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[Atrix 4G General] Sass86:
I have read the same articles. I don't see nvidia not having a plan. Redesigning the architecture could be planned for wayne, i dont know. Seems to me being able to put double the amount of cpus and gpus as your competitors cant be a bad thing. Granted they should also maximize the cores potential to 1.5ghz, but then 4 cores will be usable compared to the two. As well as xda devs overclocking them too. Nvidia is built for gaming graphics. From what I read their method is supposed to save battery power with the 5th core only kicking in and running at 500mhz while in sleep mode, always a good thing with mobile devices. The comparison I made about the camera had to do with price. yes, you could buy a notebook just as easily as you could buy a camera or a google tv device to make up for inferior/not included features. So in actuality both tegra 3 and exynos 4212 should both process without lag, at respectively similar processing ability. With roughly the same graphic abilities, ( time will tell ) but that would mean nvidias chip will match exynos without changing anything but the amount of cores they can place on a chip. Also that they have made more progress than exynos did, since exynos is currently with a higher gpu quality. This is dragged out, is it not safe to assume a chip with features equal to or around exynos 4212, will in fact, be better than exynos 4210? Which is why we disagreed in the beginning.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Tegra 3 matching the 4212 is a best case scenario. And the 4212 will be out before the Tegra 3 by 3-4 months. The 4212 is merely a stepping stone for their next gen cpu coming out mid-2012, which is when the Tegra 3 should start populating smartphones. If the 4210 is equivalent to the OMAP 4430, found in OMAP based phones currently, then the 4212 is the 4460, which is what the Nexus and the RAZR, are using. 4212 is basically just a refresh of the 4210 with a higher clock and a few enhancements whereas Tegra 3 is supposed to be a brand new platform for Nvidia. Tegra is several steps behind its competitors. Their roadmap is Kal-el in 2012, with a kal-el+ refresh in q3/4 2012. Wayne comes out the following year. Everyone else is releasing their refresh right now, which are all as good as the Tegra 3, with their brand new chips coming out early-mid next year. So when Kal-el+ gets released (which is just a higher clocked kal-el basically), every other SoC manufacturer will be releasing brand new SoCs based on a new manufacturing process and a new architecture. The only way Nvidia can catch up at this point is to make massive, massive improvements in their jump from kal-el to wayne.

TL;DR Nvidia is half a generation behind TI, Qualcomm, and Samsung.
[Atrix 4G General] Sass86:
True. But tegra 2 3d was supposed to be the mid life kicker to match 4210, but delays for tegra 2 being released killed it. If the time lines stay untouched then tegra will be playing catch up, I agree. Then again it is possible they will develop a great SoC for Wayne and Nvidia is also supposed to make Grey in 2012 too. Pretty much means look at what's here now and how long it will outpace development of apps and software.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Kal-el was supposed to launch in August. It won't launch until very late this year for tablets and next year for smartphones. It's refresh is Kal-el+. Wayne won't be seen until 2013 at earliest along with Grey. Grey is Wayne with integrated radios to directly compete with Qualcomm's Krait offering. So Nvidia is still playing catch up unless they rush Wayne, which will only hurt its potential. Nvidia is a solid 6 months behind every other manufacturer. Logan is their best chance at catching up, but that won't be due until 2014.

Seeing as the 4212 should be out very soon, Kal-el's competitor from Samsung would be the Exynos 5250, which will use ARM's next-gen A15 MPCore, which is 40% faster if both are running at the same clockspeed. Obviously, the A15 will be clocked much higher as it caps out at 2.5GHz. Qualcomm's quadcore variant should come out 2012 as well, but no date has been announce. It is supposed to be clocked at 2.5GHz, though. OMAP is slightly behind these 2 with a 1.5-1.8GHz clocked dualcore A9, but makes up for it in the GPU department by using the latest SGX544, which absolutely destroys anything kal-el has to offer. It's the same gpu found in the iPad 2. All of these chips use dual-channel memory as well, whereas the Tegra 3 forwhatever reason is still stuck on single channel RAM.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
For those still doubting ICS on the Atrix, just remember that EVEN THE NEXUS 1 is also going to get ICS.

It was encouraging to hear about the Nexus S and ICS, now that the N1 is also supposed to get it we will definitely have ICS whether it's Official or CM7... ;)

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...xus-one-and-most-gingerbread-phones-20111019/
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
That the Nexus 1 is getting it is no real big surprise really. It's a nexus phone. CM7 is gingerbread, so you're thinking of CM9. 8 is reserved for honeycomb. It's more likely that the Atrix will get it from CM9 than officially from Motorola.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
The article alwo says that most Gingerbread devices will get ICS too.

As I already said, we will get ICS in some form on the Atrix...
[Atrix 4G General] wyhteagle:
I'm all for the Atrix to get ICS and in one form or another (ie. CM7-9) we will get ICS. I highly doubt that with a phone thats 7 months and with the scheduled release of ics not until early 2012 moto will give atrix 4g ics. However the Atrix name will live on in Atrix 2!
[Atrix 4G General] imhuy:
I congratulate you for staying on topic!
[Atrix 4G General] starrwulfe:
Everybody's straight missin the point about moto though. They are owned by google. If you think that this phone will not get ICS then something must be wrong with you. Also remember the atrix is sold in more than just america. Parts of south america along with a lot of asia and part of europe all got variations of the atrix. We will get an official update. The question is now the motorola is a division of google, will they get rid of blur and are they gonna make the next nexus phone after the nexus galaxy?
[Atrix 4G General] TheBlackCat13:
Google does not own Motorola yet (or, rather, Motorola mobility, a branch of Motorola). The buyout has not even been approved by the Motorola stockholders, not to mention government regulators (and you can bet that Apple at least will contest the merger). It may be another year if not more before the whole thing is finalized, and even then it is unclear exactly how much Google will try to to interfere with Motorola.

Yes, and most of those areas haven't even gotten Gingerbread and probably never will. Motorola may be slow getting updates to the U.S., but they are absolutely horrible at getting them to the rest of the world.
[Atrix 4G General] Newbleeto:
Most phones coming out nowadays are as or less powerful then the Atrix... Of course it can handle ICS. Its just a matter of time and patience.
[Atrix 4G General] silver03wrx:
Almost every post on motos faceback wall has been people saying they need to give the atrix ics for the past couple days so im sure there well aware that people will not be happy if that does not happen. So thats looking good and it has been alot of people saying that
[Atrix 4G General] xangma:
Everyone saw the post from Moto on FB saying Atrix will be getting ICS right? 6 weeks after release?
[Atrix 4G General] donharden2002:
Have you tried and atrix 2 yet? The screen is great and I get 2500 on quadrant with it, I know that means nothing really. It feels great in hand, I do keep reaching for the fingerprint reader to unlock it but I've only had it since sat.

If they unlock the bl on this one its going to be better than most phones out.stock for stock the a2 is better than the og atrix. I'll keep my old atrix to play with but the a2 is going to be my daily driver.

I'd suggest those looking for a new phone to take a look at it and let's all keep on moto to unlock all of their phones.

Sent from my MB865
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
That's the thing "IF" they unlock ( or for a better choice of words "leak" ) the BL.

Remember that when the Atrix unlocked BL leaked, Motorola did everything in their power to cover that up fast. I'm guessing they were scrambling to cover it up probably because it had something to do with a carrier agreement...
[Atrix 4G General] YBrazeau:
Done my part on the FB page .. hopefully we will have it in the near future ...
[Atrix 4G General] silver03wrx:
What do u mean? They said devices will be released for ics 6 weeks after google releases there final version of it. Which nost likely just meant there gna gave new devices come out with it at that time. But where are u getint what u said from? Im the one who asked moto and that was there answer too me
[Atrix 4G General] silver03wrx:
A note about Ice Cream Sandwich: We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR, Motorola RAZR, Motorola XOOM and DROID BIONIC by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.

Phone Model* T
[Atrix 4G General] silver03wrx:
Well not looking good people
[Atrix 4G General] josephfranco926:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/18/ice-cream-sandwich-ported-to-a-galaxy-s-ii-and-the-people-rej/

it's just a matter of time before we see it on the atrix un-officially =)
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
silver: seeing as the only devices they mentioned, aside from the Xoom, are Verizon-only..... I don't think that list should even remotely be taken as a "THESE DEVICES ONLY" list.

no matter how you look at it.... as it's already been said, we'll get it one way or another, whether it's official or un-official.
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
I know I'm not on xda for the official stuff cm9 can't wait
[Atrix 4G General] demandarin:
Although this thread got off topic, I learned a lot from it. The Tegra 3 chipset and that Ex one. I'm planning on getting the Asus Transformer Prime when it comes out inna few weeks. This will be the first tablet to use the Tegra 3 chipset. Edecator kinda rained on my parade though as I was thinkn Tegra 3 will kill everything. It's gonna be great but now not as much as I thought. I've seen comparisons of the original Asus transformer(Tegra2) to the iPad 2 and Asus beat it in every category if it wasn't tied on some. So of Tegra 2 is holding it's on compared to the ipad2 chipset, it's only going to get a lot better with Tegra3. Plus with developers/hackers here on XDA, they will get those 4-5 cores Tegra 3 has over clocked.

As far as ICS for Atrix goes, I'd love to see it sooner than later. I got the ICS launcher n really love the look n feel of it. The official or hacked version will be able to hide those 3 on screen buttons on the bottom to maximize screen real-estate. I'm still on Froyo 2.2.2 rooted..lol. As battery life is great on it and works well for me. I will be upgrading to gingerbread finally as I see it can be rooted now also. Or I might just skip that step and go straight to ICS when it drops. 2012 going to be a great year for technology and mobile devices. Tegra 2 was the worlds first dual core mobile processor with stats and muscle comparable to PC. Now Tegra 3, along with other chipsets, will come out and change the game up again. I love this kinda stuff ;).
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
If you want to see valid comparisons of chipsets, just go to anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5133/galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-initial-performance

As of this moment, the most powerful CPU is the Exynos. The most powerful GPU is the Apple A5.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5072/nvidias-tegra-3-launched-architecture-revealed/2

Fact is, Nvidia is behind the curve at this point, and will continue to be so for at least another year if not more. In regards to the Asus Prime, according to rumors, you won't be seeing it until next year as Asus reportedly delayed it so they could put ICS on it.
[Atrix 4G General] demandarin:
I really hope it doesn't come late. Now I'm torn between just going ahead and getting regular Asus Transformer(with tegra2 chipset) or holding out. All comparison tests showed it performed better than ipad2, which is what I originally was going to get. HHgregg is having a black Friday sale and will have the Asus Transformer on sale for only $299 vs. Regular price $399 for 16gb version. Most vids n sites I've researched says the Asus transformer is basically the best Android tablet out now. People here on XDA even have it over clocked to like 1.6-1.8ghz per core now. Ahh, I hope my impatience doesn't get the best of me. I'm ready to give this ipad to my girl and get a new tablet for myself. One other tablet that's looks tempting is the Samsung Galaxy tab 7.7 with Super IPS+ screen. It's not out yet. Tab 7.0 plus is good, out now, but not going to be better. I guess I'll keep researching and comparing tablets. No way I can hold out till ipad3 or end of 2012. The saga continues ;)
[Atrix 4G General] kilopopo:
yey

I want ics so i lieked it
[Atrix 4G General] Marcb:
Well, I'm no sure how Motorola handle these requests... but I know Motorola Brasil changed it's mind on updating the Milestone to 2.2.1 after so many bad feedback they had... so I guess we still have a chance...

I'm doing my part and asking for the ICS update and will keep bothering them 'cause i'm not stupid and I know they don't give a **** about current customers, that's why they release so many phones with similar configurations... so you buy a new phone instead of having yours updated... that's not an exclusive estrategy of Motorola, but I don't wanna get caught by this... so if they don't release the update, I'll just move to HTC, Samsung, whatever...

We do have the power guys... complain, demand... we can!!
[Atrix 4G General] tobenary:
I think that we must have the ics

Motorola then will use the dual core
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rustynuts34:
Maybe a silly question but made a backup of the blend rom using the blend kernel, then installed doomlords kernel and the cyangenmod rom. If I restore my backup does it restore the kernel and rom or just the rom?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rYuuk:
i dont think you can restore kernel by restoring backup. Only backup of roms can be made.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rustynuts34:
Ok cheers, so will probably have to flash blend kernel first then restore backup then.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bfitz26:
so i have tried everything just can't get this to work file explorer root titanium backup also through pc i am trying to get the stock browser i am using the one from frozen rom.... to transport to metamorphisis cant seem to get it to paste into the system/app section i was wondering if there is anyone willing to do this for me and attach a download link or a email attachment of some sort would be greatly appreciated... or is there a way to just pull the apk flash the rom and install the apk... thanks guys.. :confused:
[Fascinate General] treborbula1:
Today I DEcided To Root My Friends SGS Fascinate, All i wanted to do is replace the stock launcher with a newer one on root explorer, but messed it up, the TwLauncher kept FC and i could get out of it, i then came here and started flashing "Recoveries" but all it did was make it worse, right now im waiting for a download to finish with the DI01.bin to see if Odin3 can help, and on top of that the clockworkmod that is flashed on the device is damage somehow doesnt want to mount the sd card where i have the backup and the roms , since i cant flash anything aFTER 12 HOURS ON THE SITE AND TO NO SUCCESS i come to you guys.

I know you have your own business and problems but thats what were here for helping each other

i would appreciated much if anyone can help

treborbula:eek:
[Fascinate General] laureanop:
Can you still get your phone into download mode? If you can, follow the instructions in the sticky post titled " how to recover your fascinate from any brick... " by Dalev.

PWGB,TKSGB10-14, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate General] Hypnosis4U2NV:
No offense, but judging by your post you have no business flashing/rooting anything if you don't understand what your doing, let alone on someone else's phone.

Sent by way of the GB delivery truck..
[Fascinate General] cpark_12:
You can install different launchers without being rooted...just an fyi

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
I don't know how else to explain it. I honestly think my screen calibration is off in some fashion with regards to keyboard input. I've tried changing the keyboards and I continue to miss letters left and right.

I figured with a larger screen that this would be much less of an issue but (not exaggerating) 50% of the time I go to key in a letter above the spacebar, it registers the space instead of the respective letter. I also have issues with hitting the return symbol when trying to backspace.

I hate to admit it but I never had anywhere close to these kinds of problems on iOS. I refuse to go back to that platform but I SMS way too much and this might be the factor that sends me back. Voice works pretty well but I much prefer to type.

Any suggestions?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dayv:
Try swype.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] VFO:
I thought that j was ghd only one having this issue until I read your post. There is definitely something going on with the keyboard cause I ne er had these issues with my captivate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
Yeah I've tried Swype a bit and not really a fan. I type too many abbreviations and it still requires you to initially tap on the first letter which is where the problems I'm having occur.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Darkmx2000:
Are you using the Samsung keyboard? If so I would download the gingerbread keyboard from the market and that should fix your problem. When I use the Samsung Keyboard for a lack of a better word I feel like a retard I can't spell or anything.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] samsungcaptivates:
had the same issue but only with the android keyboard when i switched to the samsung keybopard and turned off all the auto correct crap my issues went away but i did have horrible accuracy issues
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bella92108:
I'm having similar issues :-(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mgymnop:
Yes I have the same problem with the Android keyboard. I am still not sure if it is a bug or if I have to become used to it. It doesn't happen all the time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] greystealth:
I noticed that the android keyboard does have this problem but the samsung keyboard does not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mgymnop:
Yes but the Samsung keys are larger that could be a reason.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
I have the same problem, I thought it was just me.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] contentryder:
tap the abbreviation in Swype and add it to your dictionary, then just Swype it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
Ill chime in and say Ive got the same issues as well.

Im gonna try the Samsung keyboard instead for a while.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
Thanks all, I'll give the Samsung kb another go. Glad at least to see that I'm not the only one having this challenge...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
The thing I don't like about the Samsung keyboard is the bar that keeps popping up and going away, making the screen size change. I also really like being able go tap a ? without having to press the alt key. I'm going to try the Gingerbread keyboard in the market, it worked great ln froyo. Now that I know I am not fat fingering everything.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Misterjunky:
Keyboards

I must have tested a dozen different keyboards not only with this new SGS2

phone but on my two previous phones (Captivate and Infuse) and I have

found that nothing is as good as the Samsung Keyboard unless someone

happens to be a wizkid or someone has fingers as thin as a pencil.

For average people there is nothing as good as the stock samsung keyboard.

One of the reasons for this is that the size of the letters on the samsung

keyboard are noticabley larger.

Another reason is that when you use those keyboards from the market

they all have a slight but noticable delay when pressing the keys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Deleted member 663166:
I loaded gingerbread keyboard from the market. Yes, its basically the same as the android keyboard, but performance has been much better for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mgymnop:
There is another issue with the android keyboard when you have 2 input languages installed. It switches by itself the input language without a swipe of the spacebar.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] stickbo:
I have issues to. I have tried the stock android, Samsung, gingerbread, touchpal, swiftkey, and perfect. They all suffer from the same issues. HTC has a calibration app I was hoping to find here. Anybody? Oh and i hate swype.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
Yeah, after a few text messages I finally no longer feel I am insane, the one on the market has zero lag, and presses the keys I expect it to.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] saltytostitos:
SwiftKey X

I run into the same issues and it's aggravating... the screen is just so slippery!

My solution is using Swift Key X and it's prediction is perfect for me so I just have to be careful around the space bar.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ceo.mtcl:
Are you guys using third party chargers? If the phone it's plugged in to non Samsung chargers then touch screen behaves wacky. If you can reproduce the issue while phone is not charging then it's really an issue. I have fat fingers but I doing have any issues like your facing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dxtra:
There's nothing wrong with the keyboards, you guys need to keep your eyes on the keys instead of the message bar. I had the same problem and though I was bugging but the second you look the other way you might hit the wrong key. To be completely precisely look to the key your trying to hit and keep your eyes on the keyboard.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
Then why did i not have this issue with my desire hd
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
I didn't have this issue on my captivate with a smaller screen and smaller keys. The issue feels better with the version from the market.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
All I ever look at are the keys. It's when I then look at the message I've composed and notice all the errors that I want to chuck the damn thing out the window... :p

Oh and I spent the $5 for the iPhone style keyboard in the Marketplace and I must say, it's been great so far. Apparently I can't keep away 100% yet... ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] monkey28rb:
i agree i am always miss typing things, i miss the accuracy of the iPhone!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
swiftkey was REALLY good for me. then I found Smart Keyboard. It actually tell you to type a sentence to "calibrate" your typing style.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jetarpon:
No kidding. I have a charger I use in my car, and I can't even complete my unlock pattern when it's plugged in.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
Haven't noticed this myself. I do have an after market cla in the car which I'll look into later. But my texting woes have simply been using the phone by itself.

As to Smart Keyboard, loving it so far. IPhone keyboard was much better too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] m0biusace:
Try smart keyboard. It has an calibration option and it outputs the calibration changes. My Y axis (vertical) changed 7 or so pixels. The keyboard is much more accurate now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] stickbo:
I am also also comming from a desire HD and agree completely. Never had this problem and i own 4 androids. Like I said before HTC has a calibration app, do we have the same?