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[Nexus One General] Snow_fox:
First, I never said it was "obsolete" in two years, only greatly depreciated. Phones are usually less useful in two years because they suffer a large deal more wear and tear than my other electronics. I bring the sucker everywhere with me, it gets drop hit beaten and banged up even if not intentionally. However, assuming it survives the wear and tear, it will not be by any definition obsolete, unless the company I am with decides to change all of its frequencies. It will still be a functional device, it just won't receive updates.

Second, Why do they need to set a world record for the longest device to keep being updated? How does this actually benefit anyone? It is only going to result in more and more features being stripped out. Just because a device gets updates, doesn't mean it will be any "fun" updates. Then people will be mad because they don't get the "cool" stuff.. "Oh gee, thanks for the security update google! you even changed the version number, how lovely! thanks a lot for nothing!" will be the sentiment then.

Finally, have you considered the thought that maybe they are doing something different? Instead of updating the Nexus One with a new skin and pretending it is a full update, they don't try to make customers (particularly those of us who don't have N1's) believe they are going to keep updating devices for longer periods of time, when the reality is that there is only a change of skin?

Watching the release of the Galaxy Nexus and the preview of the ICS, I must admit I was thinking it is all cool.. But, I also began wondering how well the Nexus S and it's sister phones will handle the update.

I am also getting a little weary of all the people talking about all these details. I won't be surprised if the Cyanogen team does manage to fit some cool features and create an ICS update for the nexus one..

With that said, hearing everyone talk about the specs being the "same" between the N1 and the NS make me realize just how little most people understand the differences between architectures. I am not exactly an "expert" on the subject, but I do know that two processors can both be rated at 1 ghz, and one processor can still be years ahead of the other in terms of performance. Now, whether or not this *is* the case I can't say.

I think people really fail to understand that in some ways, the clock speeds of processors are irrelevant for determining performance.

A Dodge truck and a Sports car can have the same horsepower. It doesn't mean the truck is going to get a great 0-60 time, nor does it mean the car is going to be able to tow a boat nearly as effectively as the truck.
[Nexus One General] Captain_Nero:
Finally someone with Sense in this crazy thread.

I am not amused by your phones performance
[Nexus One General] RafaMaster:
I don't think the processor is the issue, because Nexus One CPU gets more Mflops than Nexus S. According to some research I've done, Nexus One's CPU is more optimized and powerful than Hummingbird CPU from Nexus S.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
It's at least on par. But GPU is integrated with the CPU, and Nexus One seriously lacks in that department. Which might be much more critical to the ICS, since it's all about boosting graphics.
[Nexus One General] Award Tour:
I have a N1 and NS4G, the GPU performance difference between the two are very apparent. Also the Galaxy Nexus has the same exact GPU as the NS4G, just upclocked to about twice the speed. Makes for easier development especially when HW acceleration seems to be an integral part of the ICS experience (the SDK port flies on the NS). The Internal ROM also had to of been an issue.

As for people saying that the N1 is the developer phone, I don't think it will be for long. The N1 is two years old, a lot has changed since then including 4G radios, NFC chips, higher res displays and buttonless designs - all of which seem to be standard features in Android going forward. The N1 is old news. Android needs a new dev phone.
[Nexus One General] Jasonhunterx:
Lol mflops don't really mean much plenty of phones get more mflops then others but there not faster an Hummingbird is fastest single core cpu an gpu is top 5 in phones
[Nexus One General] RafaMaster:
Sorry, but I don't know if I'm wrong at all or your logic is not right. According to Wikipedia, FLOPS: "In computing, FLOPS (or flops or flop/s, for floating point operations per second) is a measure of a computer's performance, especially in fields of scientific calculations that make heavy use of floating point calculations, similar to the older, simpler, instructions per second.".

That means More FLOPS = Faster Processing.

I've seen Nexus One under Gingerbread getting more FLOPS than Nexus S, means Nexus One's CPU is faster, if I'm not wrong.
[Nexus One General] createer:
There its no reason why ICS couldn't be brought to the nexus one and I think it bull**** that Google isn't giving it the update. It doesn't really matter to me personally because I upgrade phones once a year but the while point of a nexus phone is such Android and presumably longer support since the software is coming straight from Google. If I was an n1 owner I would be very upset and I am very disappointed in Google.

Evo 3D

Nexus S

Xoom

Sony Google TV
[Nexus One General] createer:
Someone start a petition!!!

Evo 3D

Nexus S

Xoom

Sony Google TV
[Nexus One General] Award Tour:
Has there been any Android phone that has received as many updates as the N1? Doubt it.
[Nexus One General] obsanity:
Well, I hate to point out things you mentioned but the "obsolete" thing was directed at general public. And cellphone accessories such as cases/screen protectors is a big business and the wear and tear doesn't really fall in play because these things look like they just came out of the factory after two years.

As far as updates, most operating systems supposedly "take advantage" of better technology when in fact they should be making their code and system performance more efficient under stress. This is something Android did up until Gingerbread (froyo improved speed almost 5x on any phone). I would like to remind everyone why Intel is losing this game. It is because of useless op codes which take up 90 percent of the die when the dumb coders use only 10 percent of it anyway. This is the reason why we can have dual 1.5Ghz phones with little or no heat running off a little battery instead of 500W power supply.

So my argument is really on more efficient coding vs all the bloatware you get shoved into your CPU cycles where one base branch instruction, which could have been avoided in the first place, gets buried under many others which use it every 10ms in a core operation. A good example of this... you guessed it... Windows! Where it takes trillions upon trillions of bytes to show you a bunch of windows governed by some networking rules and drivers for every single piece of silicon on the market. It’s a joke and I hate to see an operating system such as Android follow this path.

OK, that's enough of my steam :)

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+10!!! (apparently my message was too short :D)
[Nexus One General] vtoop:
thank for sharing
[Nexus One General] samagon:
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/sorry-nexus-one-owners-no-ice-cream-sandwich-for-you-20111026/

At least there's a funny picture included. My phone looks so sad looking in the window!
[Nexus One General] chester04:
Google: Nexus One not getting Ice Cream Sandwich

Google’s Hugo Barra confirmed that the very first Nexus phone won’t be getting an official Android 4.0 upgrade, citing it’s just “

simply too old to run the new operating system.

”

via Telegraph
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
Stop repeating old news... If u r rooted, might have a chance to have cm9!!!
[Nexus One General] bigo1087:
Read the thread before you Post......The N1 doesnot have enought Interal Rom on the system partion. ICS is much larger than gingerbread and will NOT fit on the N1.

Its NOT GOOGLE'S Fault.
[Nexus One General] Rod3:
Please explain the difference between the N1 and NS. Both have 512MB of RAM yet the NS will receive ICS?
[Nexus One General] msavic6:
He said Rom not ram.
[Nexus One General] :
Google is not giving away their Nexus phones, they're making money.
[Nexus One General] jurassicjockey:
they're making pennies on the phone, and dollars on the advertising. Google is a smart company, they make billions selling advertising. Why would a company that makes money selling advertising suddenly decide that there was a fortune to be made in selling phones. Microsoft makes more money off of the Android operating system than Google does.
[Nexus One General] :
Pennies, lol.

Google isn't going all in on hardware, no, but it's ludicrous to think they're not making money on these phones.

Pennies...good one.
[Nexus One General] Rod3:
Doesn't Google also license the Google Apps?
[Nexus One General] :
Yea, that's a different discussion though, that they clearly make money on.

However, people are still under the false assumption that Google isn't/didn't make money on the N1, NS, and now GN.
[Nexus One General] phoneguy 4567:
Google is interested in selling advertising first & foremost. All their products are used to drive people to that advertising. They may make a little extra money from other things but that's a bonus, it's all about the ad revenue for Google. That's why they killed the N1 & selling it directly to consumers so quickly IMO.
[Nexus One General] f1restarter:
Don't feel so bad. Just think what the LG G2X owners must be feeling right now: http://www.slashgear.com/lg-confirms-no-ice-cream-sandwich-for-optimus-2x-28191682/

And wasn't this phone released just this year, as the first dual core phone? Long live fragmentation!!
[Nexus One General] ghlu:
not sure what all those android manufacturers are thinking. You screw a customer once and you'll most likely lose him/her forever. I got burned with htc hero, Samsung epic, and now nexus one. Chances are my next phone will be a completely different OS. I mean it's not like android can do something special that other OS cannot do except greater customization..
[Nexus One General] f1restarter:
I got screwed on Galaxy S Vibrant when the european version of this phone has been updated to gingerbread long time ago and we're still stuck on froyo. Even froyo came to the t-mobile vibrant after an almost 5 month delay. Samsung has got to be the greediest android manufacturer at least IMO.

Then I got the Nexus S full price thinking I'll be safe from the fragmentation until google released their google wallet app but excluded t-Mobile customers! Even the Nexus S had old firmware when I purchased it and had to wait another month to get the update from google while some had already received theirs.
[Nexus One General] gtmaster303:
who cares?

as long as it's CM supported, does it really matter?

It's Cyanogenmod or die boys....

That's definitely a purchasing factor for any android phone I buy at this point...
[Nexus One General] :
Your beef is with the carriers, not samsung. If it was samsung's problem then not even the European versions would have been updated.
[Nexus One General] f1restarter:
The Vibrant is not the only Samsung phone that has had this issue. A previous Samsung phone had the same problem (forgot the name) and for some reason HTC seems to update their phones pretty quickly for their users regardless of carriers. So yes I do believe carriers are guilty but Samsung isn't all that innocent either. Also maybe in Europe they have consumer protection laws that keep companies like Samsung in check.
[Nexus One General] :
Phones in the US are commissioned by the Carriers, and they are responsible for maintaining them, if they don't pay Samsung for the updates, there's no reason to expect Samsung to support them for free.

That's just the way it is. In Europe, cell companies don't bother with that non sense.
[Nexus One General] RafaMaster:
How much space takes ICS installed and how much space the Nexus One partition got?
[Nexus One General] mckeowngoo:
I'm with Vodafone in the UK and TBH I don't know where they're up to with updates for Gingerbread but I had to unlock the bootloader to get 2.3.4 and beyond.

I'm suprised Google have supported the Nexus One for as long as they have done. As has been said, the carriers want to push new hardware for 18 / 24 months contracts. How long has Google been releasing updates for the Nexus One, 24 months?

I'm in the lucky posisition where I will be getting the Galaxy Nexus on it's release as by lucky happenstance my contract is due for renewal at that date but I will still be keeping and updating the Nexus One for sh*ts and giggles.
[Nexus One General] Anudu:
Release in January 2010, makes 22 months.
[Nexus One General] obsanity:
What stops Google from supporting ALL phones with decent hardware through ROM updates?

I mean if the manufacturer allows the bootloader to be unlocked Google could post instructions for upgrading your phone. They could even make it very simple after the bootloader is unlocked by making an apk available which would updrade the OS.

Its not like they don't have the resources. I would love to see proper drivers, kernel and such through this type of option which would qualify as the official support to all phones.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus One General] aloy99:
I clearly remember google saying that phone that had gingerbread would probably be able to support ice cream sandwich. They should have made sure first before making such a statement.
[Nexus One General] DarknessDragon:
Hmmmm,a bad new,i not own a nexus one,but one friend have this device and hes very angry... and the nexus one has gingerbread and a good hardware,i dont understand...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
Hello,

i googled and searched for hours but can't find a solution for my problem. It looks like i lost my whole EFS Folder when i wanted to flash Galnet MIUI and after that CM7.1 because it failed.

So:

- CAN'T Flash ANY CWM zip (Status 7 error)

- CAN'T use mobile connection (No SMS,no Calls,no Internet etc.)

- NO Backup of the EFS folder ...

- Able to flash any ODIN/Heimdall ROM

- Up and Downgraded 100 times from FROYO to Gingerbread and so but still no EFS rapair :/

HELP,please ... :(

UPDATE: If anyone is wondering what i have done - i sent it to Samsung and they repaired it for free and even 4 months later it works like a charm (with ICS :-) )
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rahulrulez:
Flash any ROM using repartition. If that doesn't help, flash any modem / kernel after flashing ROM.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
Already done that,no change...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] malcho:
Search for Ezodin rom or something like that on forums or try flash froyo
[Galaxy S I9000 General] galaxy89:
Try this out....not sure if it will help but give it a go.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991792

Hope it helps
[Galaxy S I9000 General] malcho:
Yes man thats whay i say butt i didn't remember:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] _Sale_:
Try this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1261948&highlight=imei+unknow
[Galaxy S I9000 General] manosv:
miui creates a backup by itself in sdcard named backup
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jnhernandez:
Check your internal SD card, it should be there.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burner07:
if you don`t have a backup of your efs folder... your imei is lost forever.... you`ll have a service imei 0040etc .Efs folder will be automatically rebuilt but this will not get your imei back... i sent my phone to a Vodafone service for another problem and didn't canceled my warranty so its no problem:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
Nothing what you posted works. salesale's link was good,but i dont have a backup on my sdcard so its useless ...

I was NOT able to flash MIUI/CyanogenMod so i even dont have this backup ... and all my sdcard backups are only folders like DCIM/Music/Videos but not the whole sdcard. Before i tried to flash MIUI i backuped my whole sdcard but theres no efs folder there with a backup :/

I think i cant send my phone to samsung. they will cancel my warranty because i cant call and say my IMEI / efs folder was deleted without any reason. they know i have flashed and have fu**** up my phone.

Any other suggestions? :/ can someone send me his efs folder? Maybe the phone restores the imei when i follow the tutorial from salesale's link
[Galaxy S I9000 General] celeronix:
Flash the latest official firmware for your country and Just go to the service center and tell them that your phone doesn't work after update with KIES.

That's all! You don't know why this happened :D

Since there is no need to open the phone, your IMEI needs only to be rewritten. If the service center's staff is OK, they will easily recreate your IMEI without much efforts.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Chief_Death:
Yes play stupid.. it will work
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Talon26:
I remember reading a thread where someone had a programme that i think he made, to restore a lost efs folder with the correct imei, Ill have another quick search but its out there, you just need to find it...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
Can't find it,sorry ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Talon26:
Right well i've just been searching since i posted and found these.....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842775&highlight=restore+imei

http://darkyrom.com/community/index...40000-instead-of-unique-original-number.1876/

http://forum.samdroid.net/f28/complete-imei-restore-how-1817/

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-1206374.html

I realise the samdoird link is not for the i9000 but im sure they will be able to do the same for your phone...

OMG 30 mins searching and reading!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] O-T:
Check user nokia8260's method in the link from salesale.

He does some edit on /efs/imei/mps_code.dat to match CSC.

Not sure if you need to flash a stock ROM + 512.pit + rooted kernel to establish a basic filesystem.

Warning: Have not tried this myself, please read and decide.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jnhernandez:
Just restore your phone to official firmware and call Samsung, tell them your phone doesn't recognize your similar card anymore and can't make or receive calls or text, thats what I did when i messed up my efs on my galaxy s 4g and i got it back within 2 weeks.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] _Sale_:
EFS backup not required. Do you have EFS folder? I lost my imei. With these instructions I have recovered imei and network, signal. Good luck
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
I have a efs folder but its completly empty! So how can i edit these things,when its empty? Can i somehow restore them? I dont even have a developer IMEI (0049 ...)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tdcfpp:
Try to send it to the official repairing service. Efs folder contents is "somehow" encrypted.

Good luck
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
I tried this tutorial. when i type in umount /efs it shows me a error.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] celeronix:
Instead of wasting your time, you can just go to Samsung.

Nobody there can prove that you messed up your phone with some 3rd party applications.

They won't void your warranty for that kind of a problem, which can be fixed in 10 minutes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] _Sale_:
You can create on sdcard a folder and give it a name EFS and try again

adb kill server

adb shell

su

busybox tar zcvf /sdcard/efs/efs-backup.tar.gz /efs

deleted the corrupt files

nv_data.bin

nv_data.bin.md5

then renamed

.nv_data.bak > nv_data.bin

.nv_data.bak.md5 > nv_data.bin.md5

after closing and saving the changes back to adb shell and ran

su

umount /efs

.....

BUT if you havent any files or folder in /EFS this method cant help you
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrThreeChains:
Damn this is all completly useless ... I will send it to a repair center or samsung...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SKeijmel:
i have been flashing alot never had a problem yet how do i backup this efs folder. can this be done without rooting i tried it once but i got nothing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hezibanda:
i had this problem once,

apparently i flashed a rom without a modem,

then i flashed a modem and problem was resolved.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Odia:
Contact me via PM.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] galaxy89:
I would suggest just taking it in to a repair centre and act like you never flashed or rooted or anything. Most of the time they don't even care, because they themselves probably have rooted android phones! And most of the time they won't even bother investigating the exact cause of your problem. Remember that for the technicians, repairing phones is just a day job for them! They wana get their work done as soon as they can and they really don't have the time to go poking around on your fone looking for reasons to void your warranty and spoil your day.

Sometimes even if they do figure out what you have done, they will still fix it for you coz its simply a matter of them plugging your device in and flashing some new stuff.

Chill and just take it in.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DodgeRamIt:
I tried to flash to an ICS rooted stock rom, I kept getting fail in Odin v1.85 (I'm pretty sure I was using the wrong kernal). When I finally got back to a semi stable rooted stock gingerbread, my i777 wouldn't recognize my sim card. The efs folder was corrupted. I tried the method involving moving and renaming the .nv files. I also tried a few apps that were supposed to back up and restore efs folders. Nothing worked for me. I thought I was going to have to send it in and pay samsung $70, but this worked for me....

I used the Heimdall one click odin that had the stock gingerbread found here on XDA. Flashed back to it. It restored my efs folder and I was able to reflash to the stock gingerbread rooted! A friend with the skyrocket had the same problem. He had to use the Heimdall to flash to stock, master clear with an old captivate one click odin (don't try to flash the captivate rom to your SGSII), then reflash the same stock gingerbread again and that restored his efs folder!

I hope this helps someone.

Heimdall one click

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pj.badwal@gmail.com:
network issue in jelly bean

hello,

i really loved installing jelly bean on galaxy s i9000..it's simply awsome..can you pls guide me on following problem : i have recently upgraded by galaxy s i9000 to jelly bean remics jb rom from gingerbread 2.3..everything is working fine including wifi except network..there is no network neither i can see imei no. in the setting.. i dont know what to do next, i have copied all the files of my phone in my laptop before upgrading to jelly bean..can you pls help me out with detailed instruction as I am like a kid in android...

Thanks in advance..

Param

E Mail : pj.badwal@gmail.com
[Galaxy S I9000 General] knuckles1978:
Yeah, start 2 new topics in general the same as well as that post, then you'll definitely get an answer... :rolleyes:

You said you backed up all the files from the phone. So you have a backup of the efs folder from root then?

GT-I9000 / SEMA / SLIMBEAN2.3
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Daikamon:
I lost my efs folder can anyone help me?I have an lg p500 if enyone has a solution please help.:(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xsenman:
post in LG forum http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[General Topics] k holley:
the amaze camera is working with faux 123 on sensation and it is great i would fosure reccomend it.im not saying it will for everyone but i didnt flash stock. Im not responsable for bricked devices!
[General Topics] darkshinning:
Thanks for the information ^^
[LG Optimus 3D] shredman09:
interestingly there may be source code for the firmware....

see the following:

you need to do a search for mobile phones lgp920 at lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp

original source....

http://cheapcellunlockedphones.com/lg-optimus-3d-open-source-code/
[Omnia 7 General] adismsc:
Is it possible to run a MMS (send and receive MMS) on the official MANGO (Omnia 7 Orange UK but used in Orange Poland)?

The phone is not unlocked.

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Yours sincerely

Ketek