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[Nexus S Android Development] notabene:
For me, this is IT! (CFS 13.11)

Since 27.10 version this is the BEST! Amazing smoothnest, amazing battery life.. Full report later :)
[Nexus S Android Development] HeavenlyWinds:
Tried glados for a day and I came back to this. It has always been my favorite, now testing 13. I will report back with details.
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
I am having some troubles after installing NSTools and restarting my phone.My device stucks and it goes in Bsod..So i have to pull my battery off and restart but always the same thing after NStools grants SU permissions!!

Any one else experiencing this kind of problem?!

I am in Oxygen 2.3.1 NS - Kang and latest 13.11 Franco`s Kernel..!!Same problem got with official Oxygen 2.3.1 and 08.11 Kernel, plus i tried different other kernels!

Can u guys suggest me something..?!

Till now the only way to bring it back to life is by Wiping User Data or by reflashing Rom and Kernel!!
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Yep, go here and download the nstools reset zip:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19070492

[APPS] NSTools to manage various Ezekeel's MOD

Sent from my SNES
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
It seems that i found a way to trick it and pass that BSOD at start up without installing the NStools Fix..!

All i done after a fresh install of Rom and Kernel was, after automatic update of the SU app i opened it once, then restarted my device!After restart i downloaded NStools from the market, i run it once, i unchecked everything and checked it back as it was and then restarted!!That worked for me! ;-)

PS: Confirmed it works after several restarts and playing around with NStools Settings!
[Nexus S Android Development] got2best:
Just flashed 13 Nov kernal.. charges 100% and wiped battery stats will report back with a picture of battery drian later.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
I'd say that's normal. I have no liveOC with these voltages and it was an exercise in finding the lowest stable voltages with the stock frequency. I tried the same settings on a friend nexus S and it's good for him too. No reboots and good battery life. :-)
[Nexus S Android Development] raulillo88:
This test isn't good cause the first time after a battery wipe, the battery drains a lot

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[Nexus S Android Development] yaronyud:
franco..

can you explain what is the difference between your KER and ezeekiel KER?
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
That's what changelogs are for, I didn't write them to repeat myself.
[Nexus S Android Development] phone_user:
Oxygen KANG

Oxygen ROM Thread

Franco, are you using Oxygen KANG by red_skittles?

I'll try to follow you.

Kernel, cfs or bfs?
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm using cfs.
[Nexus S Android Development] phone_user:
Thanks for reply :) I will tag after you and learn many things
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I just bought that cool app could you tell me the minfree adjustments I can make from in it

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[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
You need to wipe your battery stats if your getting that much of a drain on any rom or kernel

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[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Franco is it tru the voltage adjustments can only be done in 25 increments at a time

For example if someone UV by 15 it really takes a 25 jump so it rounds up? I can't believe everything I read so I have to ask you who knows for sure?

Screen on use is super good on current release! Thanks my friend

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[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Had a problem.

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I switched to Oxygen ROM and I am using franco's kernel 11.13 CFS.

I don't know what happened but as you can see the phone lost the signal at some point and never found it again. When I saw "emergency calls only", I tried entering\exiting airplane mode, but it did not work. Radio was dead but phone was otherwise acting normally.

Could not even select "turn off" or "reboot", but a reboot script did the job.

Just thought I'd report, you guys think it's ROM or kernel related?

Settings: deepidle on, screenoff_maxfreq off, lazy 100/1000, no OC or UV.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I reflash my radio after kernel flashes if I have problems and its helped me in the past

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[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
15 (heck, even 24mV) under wouldn't change anything.

But 1 over would give you 25mV more.

Depends on which way you go and if the kernel is properly aligned on 25mV "borders".

Like 1151 to 1175 are same voltage of 1175.

1176 to 1200 are the same voltage of 1200

All clear now?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I guess all clear besides not understanding why 24 under wouldn't change anything? Thanks morfic

Edit, I think I got you, to get the full 25uv you would have to make the full 25 like 1050 to 1025 but 24 wouldn't do it unless you add that extra 1

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[Nexus S Android Development] Zorrich:
Flashed 13 cfs kernel, and appear to be losing signal. The 3g icon is there, but cannot load any pages. problem seems to be intermittent, as sometimes internet is fine. Phone also felt laggy after using my phone for the day.

Running carbon beta, based off oxygen 2.3.1. Using radio uckf1.

Reverted back to Nov 8 release as that ran great.

Thanks for your work Franco.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
You might wanna try and clean out your system by whatever way you choose because this one is one of the fastest if not the fastest one released so far! Been running at 1000 and that's plenty speed enough for me so look deeper into your problem and I hope you figure it out but I really dont think its kernel related

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[Nexus S Android Development] Zorrich:
Maybe i should try it again. The November 8 one is back on running fast, so I dunno.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I love nov 8th a lot also so I really dont know but I'm having a great experience and it seems like others are too

Maybe try redownloading it again

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[Nexus S Android Development] got2best:
Nov 13th is working perfect for me!
[Nexus S Android Development] Zorrich:
Thanks Mike. I'm going to do a fresh install and try again. Thanks for the reassurance :)
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
I just saw now the question here, in the public forums .. so I'll just copy&paste what I told you in the PM :) (anyone .. if I'm generating inaccurate information, please hit me :) ):

There is no "ideal" set of min-free values. It is highly impacted by the applications in your mobile, by the rom, by the kernel, scheduler and by how are you using the phone. It more like a trial and error type of settings. This is also the main reason I asked Franco not to lock the auto-killer values so everyone can adjust to their own setup.

My way of setting this: go with "aggressive" preset values of the system tuner pro and if you experience redraws, start to lower the thresholds. Franco's default settings are a little more aggressive than the aggressive preset of the system tuner pro.

Good luck and try not to break anything ...
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
A little of topic but just to inform u guys : Oxygen 2.3.2 is out and is gonna be the final Gingerbread release as AdamG announced!!

Link : http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=1476
[Nexus S Android Development] bdpyo:
Thanks for posting this!
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
U welcome buddy!
[Nexus S Android Development] darthchilli:
this is a pretty n00b question

so when deepidle is on..are all notifications suppose to turn off?

it didnt do this on nov8 and nov11 test

all CFS kernals
[Nexus S Android Development] HeavenlyWinds:
Notifications from apps and BLN are supposed to work. The phone isn't off its in Deep Idle.

Franco, version 13 is quick and smooth, i love the fact that i can use supercharger now. I'm still getting the same awesome battery life, but i can see a slight decrease (around 5-10%) which isn't noticible anyways. Good Job.
[Nexus S Android Development] Jonathon Grigg:
Franco, just posting here after your request in Ezekeels thread. Here's the best bug report I can do having been using a different kernel for now 2 days.

Kernel: 0911 cfs test kernel (it had the idle stats for deep idle, so I used it rather than the 0811 stable)

Rom: Modified Carbon Beta 1015 (Oxygen 2.3.1 base)

Device: i9020T (ordered a week or so after it was available)

Issue: Extreme wake up lag, and general unresponsiveness from waking up using the power button, often requiring up to 5 tries including a long press to wake the screen.

Background info: I had been out longboarding all day with a group of friends, and my phone had been on for roughly 36 hours or so. I had rebooted once (on purpose) since flashing the test kernel on the 9th of Nov my time (GMT+8). The camera had been in heavy use during the day, for both videos and photos, with regular closing the app between spots while we travelled. Similar issues had also occurred less often from around 24 hours of 'on' time, but after the 36 it seemed like it was every second time at least.

Possible theories: At a guess, due to the use and closure of the camera quite often, maybe either deep idle was 'working' as such but there is some bug with the camera causing part of the wakup sources to fail. Another thought could be the camera never actually closed, but deep idle still tried to start up and it caused problems.

I hope it helps somewhat, I was hesitant to post it at first because it was a test kernel but unless you have changed stuff relating to deep idle since then, maybe it still applies. Being out on the streets for a good 5+ hours cruising around, I couldn't have used logcat and it didn't occur to me to have a look at idle stats to see if the deep idle increments were so large that maybe it was indicating the wake-up sources weren't working.

If you need more similar testing, I will probably be going out with friends in 2 weeks time (I can test the camera then) or if its a long on time, let me know during this week and I will try. Maybe with all the frequent updates these time based problems go unnoticed somewhat.

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[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Aye! It will be better the more you use your phone, in two/three full cycles it will be awesome I bet :)
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thank you so much for your valuable feedback. I changed the deep_idle implementation from 09/11 test kernel to this latest stable release 13/11. I'm pretty sure those wakeup lags won't happen anymore with the stable release, but if you can, try to reproduce it, and report back please.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Franco do you use V6 supercharger script?

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[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Nop, I don't like those superdupermegascripts ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
deep idle isn't working right here

it take too much time to sleep
[Nexus S Android Development] al_madd:
I get 3 times BSOD after flashing 13 nov cfs...never happened this of any version of franco.kernel..
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
No offense intended but nothing ever works for both of you, always something thats not working like it should so I'm starting to guess that it's yer problems, not mine because I don't have such problems and no other users so far.
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
only asking

cuz, sometimes deep idle enters real fast, but sometimes don't

BSOD or other problems i never had, only deep idle breaks my head sometimes

sorry if i offend you, i'm very grateful for your work since LG P500

cumps and forget about my problem, i'll take care of it.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
deep idle isnt sleep. its idling, deeply. and its not for every occasion. let me give you an example.. deep idle kicks in when your listening to music with your headphones on, with the screen off. if your phone isnt doing anything, just sitting there with its screen off, deep idle isnt impacting your phone.

---------- Post added at 08:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:39 PM ----------

sometimes people over-think things. but sometimes the problems are actually there.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
who said anything about it being francos fault? i didnt. we are here to help you figure out what your issue is. do this.. make sure that your phone is unplugged first, now reboot your phone. after your phone boots up, turn off your screen for a minute while it sets itself up. open your camera, take a photo, exit your camera then turn off your screen. in 5 minutes, check you deep idle stats or, if you can, put on some headphones and listen to some music with the screen off. just a couple of minutes. then check your deep idle stats. be sure that you are not plugged in at this time.

your phone has other background processes going on too, even the radio takes voltage. so its not going to eat the same amount of battery with the same situation every time. there are more variables to it.
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Indeed simms, sometimes the problems are right there, but it isn't likely in this case because of no previous reports or similar behavior, that's what I wanted to say.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
i think the problem isnt the problem thats being discussed. i think the problem is that Yusei is misunderstanding what deep idle really is and how it works. which is very normal. everyday people are asking me about it because they are confused with what it actually is/does. to admit, until not to long ago, so was i :eek:
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
i'm talking with franco right now, and you two helped very much with just few words

i'll make some tests

thx very much
[Nexus S Android Development] y3mita:
I love it when I see constructive feedback and replies! Thanks Franco for being such a gent! ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] brenix:
Latest version is working wonderfully here... thx for ur hard work on this
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
It feels like the Nov 13 is drawing a little more power while idling ... at least compared with Nov 11 test. I got a loss of 12% over 8 hours of sleep .... this is 3 times bigger than the test version. Maybe I've done something wrong .... I'll test more and come back with the results.

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[Nexus S Android Development] 1PATRIK:
I don't know what caused it. But after I changed rom from NSCollab to NexusMV, and also updated kernel to 13.11 radio stopped killing my battery.. Now I'm getting flat line :]
[Nexus S Android Development] ragnarokx:
Just woke my phone with the power button because I got an email, and as soon as the screen came on it was completely frozen. Had to pull the battery. On brainmaster's MIUI, Lazy, no UV or OC, 11/13 kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] raulillo88:
Tonight I've switch off deepidle and I've do a wipe battery but the result is the same. In flight mode, another time, 13%. I think this kernel has a problem with flight mode

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[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I'm having the same results, I think it might take a 2 or 3 charge cycles to generate new stats,at least that's what I'm hoping because this kernel is quick

Also in the middle of hitting submit I got a reboot on stock voltages, I'm not complaining because I'm grateful and know android and kernels are a work in progress and my reports of problems are only to help improve the great kernel. I'm going to bump it up 25 because I like the feel of it and think my battery will calibrate themselves soon

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[Nexus S Android Development] Jonathon Grigg:
No problems, I will try out whatever latest kernel you have tomorrow. Right now I'm testing for the same thing on Glados 1.5 from the 12th, no issues so far and approaching 24 hours uptime without wakeup issues. I imagine it would also have the new fixes or whatever you changed if it was an Ezekeel bugfix. I will let you know in a day or two anyway.

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[Nexus S Android Development] 1PATRIK:
It was just weird situation, thanks god I got over it! :) Thanks for help Simms
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
exactly the same thing

Going back to 8/11, i prefer stability to a little speed improvement

waiting for the next release :)

thx franco for the good work!
[Nexus S Android Development] casca:
All I can tell you guys is that I was nice running Oxygen 2.3.1 with Franco's latest test kernels, but now with the release of oxygen 2.3.2 and latest Franco's 13.11, it's even nicer!

Everything is working as it should, fast and stable. And I can tell you for the record, I am what most people would call a battery power drainer :)

Keep it up Francisco. I'm honestly proud of seeing an excellent PT developer at XDA
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
I was a fanatic user and i love NSCollab roms, just stable and fast all i have to say!!Never had this kind of problems with NSCollab and Franco kernels maybe something was wrong on your setup..

Franco`s latest stable release is 13.11.11 is not a test version as u mention before.He was telling u to test this latest stable..

As far as i know there will not be a newer stable version for today or tomorrow.
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
i'm using it too with Oxygen, 2.3.1 (just flashed before the update, but there are little changes so no need to upgrade. Anyway) the kernel was running well, excepted the 3 freeze i had this morning

Pulled battery off,reboot, Freeze. 3 times.

go back to 8/11. Perfect.

And i score 2981 in benchmark with 8/11, 2700 with 13/11 (Both CFS)

Yes it means nothing, but the rom isnt slower with it, smooth,fast responsive, and surely better battery life.
[Nexus S Android Development] casca:
that score is at first attempt? or at 3rd quadrant attempt?
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
Hmm i don`t know mate what going wrong with ur ROM setup but me with the same Rom as u and 13.11.11 Franco`s kernel i get 3814 on Quandrant!!No LiveOC,Lazy gov.

PS: First attemp always is higher than 3200 on my setup.
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
As I said before I didn't changed anything!No LiveOC default Lazy gov. no voltages change.13.11.11 Franco`s CFS.3rd attemp.
[Nexus S Android Development] casca:
For the record, with Oxygen 2.3.2 + Franco 13.11.11

1st quadrant run - 2949

2nd quadrant run - 3317

3rd quadrant run - 3538 - correct one

4th quadrant run - 3586

EDIT: Running with stock speeds and stock voltages
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
From what i can see u r using latest Quadrant Standard edition..I am using latest Advanced, so let me try with the standard and see what i am getting cause it really looks low to me 3500+ with this setup!

PS: In fact after 3rd Quandrant attempt the numbers someone gets will be always similar to ur 3rd attempt!Thats why the 3rd is the one that really counts!.

-- Confirmed with latest Quadrant Stantard Edition we are getting similar results..!

1st attempt : 2933

2nd attempt : 3332

3rd attempt : 3626
[Nexus S Android Development] casca:
yep :) precisely
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
Guys .. PLEASE .. forget about quadrant. Its a useless benchmark. The only relevant numbers in case of a kernel are related to the CPU and eventually GPU performance. These two pices (as seen in the quadrant advanced) are less than 50% of the total score. As long as you look at the complete score, the benchmark itself is irellevant therefore, useless.

And coming back to the nov 13 kernel ....

Franco, I'm sorry to say this but something is not OK in the latest stable. The battery drop while the phone is ununsed is too high. I was expecting to have ~50-60% battery with the usage that I've pushed on it in the last 24 hours.

I'm switching back to Nov11 test .. that was almost perfect for me (except the locked min-free settings :) ).
[Nexus S Android Development] casca:
Sorry to disagree my friend, but it would be completely irrelevant, IF, we weren't talking about the same exact phone, with the same specifications and the same rom with the same kernel.

This is just my point obviously, and the quadrant score showing was only because a few posts back, user fabulous69 was having a "low score" with his quadrant, nothing else.

As for the battery usage, for me, I'm not being able to see any noticeable difference. Same as before with the test ones, with stock speeds, stock voltages and lazy governor.wifi/3g data and syncs always on.
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
First of all, as long as a benchmark is so higly influences by a mounting option of the file system than that benchmark is useless.

If you would compare CPU score agains CPU score, yes, it would mean a lot ... but as a whole it mean exactly nothing.

Second ... yout battery graph is terrible. You barely used your phone and you have lost more than 20% over 4 hours. You should have had more than 85% battery under those circumstances.
[Nexus S Android Development] caleb1783:
something strange to report...

i was 110 oc and uv 25. at 440/880 w lazy screenoff enabled...

my device kept sod. so i retured to stock voltages... not only its stable, battery drain actually improved. i always thought uv will save bat... maybs w didle, uv hurt battery life..

i will come back after another day off full usage...

for ur info. i unplugged at 7. display on time 2 hrs. with moderate use. 40 % left at 7pm. this is with auto sync on.

Sent from Divinus Nexus S...
[Nexus S Android Development] notabene:
So, results are GREAT. For me, as I said, 13.11 version is best since 27.10...

CFS, Brainmaster 11.11, autobrightness, 105LiveOC, undervolted as on picture..

Great great job Franco!
[Nexus S Android Development] naz78:
stupid question, where can I download the Nov 8 kernel file? I looked here but no luck:

https://github.com/franciscofranco/Nexus-S/tree/master/kernel
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
Here
[Nexus S Android Development] casca:
I'm not sure I understood properly what you have written.

Can you please explain what do you mean by "a benchmark is so higly influences by a mounting option of the file system"?

As per my graphic, I don't think you can assume it is "terrible" simply by looking at it, since you do not know what services or applications are running and updating on my phone.

Have you noticed that I have 3g data always ON and that my wifi connection has been connected for about 4hours on the graphic, or that my GSM signal is very low where I have been, also for the past 4hours?

In your thumbnail attachment for example, although you show your disconnected BT symbol, I don't see your wireless ON and it shows maximum GSM signal.

For the record,around 24h is my usual time with wireless, gps, 3g,browsing and apps updating/syncing all day long, with stock speeds/voltages.

Sorry for the post being so long but it's simply to show that we can't simply assume something is wrong by a graphic.

regards