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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ECOTOX:
Its the omap 4460, TI made an announcement on it.Gpu wise its weaker than the exynos in the texture department as it has the sgx540. The biggest advantage it has over the NS or vibrant is the CPU and ram (hardware wise) benching the NS vs the Droid3 or Bionic shows the NS doing fairly close with the differences being probably due to the omap having a higher gpu clock and a processor that can feed the data to the gpu faster.

I can tell you that the chip has great performance, even at that higher resolution, I believe the blackberry playbook has it and that thing runs beautifully =D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boystuff:
everything i'm reading about the omap is saying it's built for better HD performance, however clocking, number crunching and GPU it's weaker then the exynos found in the sgs II. actually there comparing the gpu to the one found in our Vibrant.

as dismal as this sounds, i'm still going for the Galaxy Nexus due to the stock interface and HD resolution...

or i can wait longer (god knows how much longer) and grab the sgs II HD thats currently only in Korea. :(

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qoutes from Extremetech website

"So now the OMAP4460 is getting quite a lot of scrutiny, even though it isn’t exactly a new chip. This dual-core SoC is clocked at 1.2GHz, and uses ARM Cortex-A9 architecture, just like the Exynos. That’s not a problem, but the older GPU, the PowerVR SGX540 is. We were hoping for a step up in the graphics department.

Why did Google choose the OMAP for its new Nexus? Well, it might not live up to the high graphical standards set out by the iPhone, but it is a solid chip in its own right. The OMAP4 platform makes use of an additional hardware accelerator called IVA 3 that makes encoding and decoding HD video a snap. The Galaxy Nexus has an HD screen, so this hardware focus on video is a big plus.

Google engineers were likely also drawn to the OMAP for its use of a dual-channel memory controller. Android’s multitasking system means that data is constantly being moved into, and out of, active memory. This is definitely a strength of TI’s OMAP parts"

hopefully that answers some of your questions.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] }{Alienz}{:
Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?

I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.

:/

And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
The phone is still worth getting. It will always have the latest version of Android, and Android will run smoothly on it.

I'm never repeating my Vibrant mistake ever again. Running CM-7 with half ass GPS and no 911 calling, no thanks. Next time a Nexus only phone. Just wish it wasn't made by stupid Samsung, errrrr.

Or maybe Motorola phone now that Google owns them, higher chance of getting updates. Just my opinion though.

One last thing. I do agree about the lack of microsd. I was shocked when Nexus S didn't get it, and now again. Hmmmmm. You would think they would want a dev phone to have a microsd slot.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fuskand:
Weak GPU? It is more than enough to drive a 720p screen at 60fps, as demonstrated consistently throughout the Galaxy Nexus hands-on videos.

How is the camera at all, as you so eloquently put it, '****-tastic'? From what I have seen (and trust me, it isn't nearly enough to make much of an impression to make a final call on its quality), the pictures look decent, with little chroma noise and balanced colours. The zero shutter-lag feature sounds most excellent as well, as most cellphone pictures turn out awful because of the nature of the beast (shaky hands and such). If your judgment is purely based on "Hurr because it's 5MP" then you are a moron.

Though I can lament the loss of a MicroSD card slot, most cards readily available to consumers (read: not newegg or amazon buyers) cannot even fathom being able to record 720p video, much less 1080p featured on the Galaxy Nexus. And using your smartphone as a primary MP3 player is only viable if you have no other use for the phone besides MP3 playing and occasional internet browsing, which would be just a flagrant waste of the ~$80 monthlies people pay for their plans.

And the 1,750mah battery is actually above-average (considering 1,450-1,500mah the standard), along with ICS' built-in 'app-freezing', carrier bloat will never be a cause for unnecessary battery drain again). The battery could last for days depending on your usage (Your mileage may ****ing vary, of course).

Really, high pricing? Really? If the previous two Nexus phones are any indication, it will cost $529 unlocked. Of course, it seems like a lot of money when you work retail or some other **** job, but then you shouldn't be playing with such expensive toys in the first place.

And plastic? Well this explains everything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

Your post gave me cancer.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] }{Alienz}{:
Camera---Look at the Nexus S photos at Engadget and the Galaxy Nexus ones. They look IDENTICAL except for colors on the GN looking a bit worse actually. Last I remember, the Nexus S camera is on the level of the Vibrant...it's great for a 5MP but its nothing compared to the competition nowdays. Not backlit sensor, not f2.2 or lower, not even high resolution. No shutter lag? I use Camera360 on my Vibrant and have had that feature for MONTHS. As Engadget comments, the no shutter lag is because the camera on the Galaxy Nexus does not focus. It is just NO competition to a Galaxy S2 or Iphone 4S sadly.

GPU-It is a 1.6 or 1.7 times faster than the Vibrant. We already have a good GPU but...for crying out loud. It is half as slow as the Galaxy S2 one. And THAT itself is already getting old...been on the market for over 6 months. Shall we compare to the new iPhone 4S? Difference of 7 TIMES? I HATE iphones but Samsung and Google seriously didn't try here.

Battery. I am CURRENTLY running a Samsung-made OEM 1800mah in my Vibrant. Same size as our original 1500mah. Should I remind you the Vibrant runs on a 4.0 screen and is NOT HD resolution? For a device that is as big as the Galaxy Nexus (4.6 inches) and with that huge and beautiful screen, 1750 is just TINY. At LEAST a good 2000 or more should have been put in it. And its' not impossible to do at all. Samsung HAS the technology. The phone HAS the space. It's fatter than the Galaxy S2 (and godforbid the new Razor)...doesn't have a MicroSD slot. There is no excuse except laziness.

Pricing---Several retailers in Europe have already priced it. Cheapest one is ~700...typical one is 800 and some go all the way up to 950. Look up the gsmarena.com article if you wish. Off contract it will be an arm and a leg. On contract it will be $300. That makes it the MOST expensive phone both on and off contract. $530? Yeah...maybe at that price it would be something to consider but 800? For an amazing screen and software? Heh.

Like I said, the real star of that presentation was the software. Ice Cream sandwich is amazing. GPU Acceleration anyone?

The phone though it comes on? A letdown sadly. Trust me, I was going to buy it. Was waiting for it for 3 months now. No more. May either get a Galaxy S2 now or wait for a Galaxy S2 HD for the Nexus HD screen and the Galaxy S2 performance and features.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aNYthing24:
In the OMAP 4460, the SGX540 is clocked at 384 MHz which gives it a total output of ~6.2 GFLOPs. In comparison, the Mali-400 MP4 clocked at 200 MHz produces about ~7.2 GFLOPs, and ~10.8 GFLOPs at 300 MHz. So yeah, it's a step back from the Exynos but still very good.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
Everything yea saying don't matter its all about optimization an camera looks great to me
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBrandonWRX:
lmfao, best post all day. Gotta pay to play and $530 is pocket change for what you're getting in return.

Galaxy Nexus is clearly the device to get imo.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] }{Alienz}{:
New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vapotrini:
Uncovered by whom?

Probably that's all that is available after boot up.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MMcCraryNJ:
It's 1 GB.

My Tab 10.1 only shows 768 MB as well, but it's 1 GB. The Android System uses part of the RAM to operate. The rest you get as free RAM.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] }{Alienz}{:
How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.

"supercurio François Simond:

I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""

Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsjusttim:
Great find. Thank you.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kboater:
can anyone point me to some really good hands on videos? i saw the one on phandroid and engadget the night all was announced. but are there any good videos that show a little more in depth?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
Supercurio already has a Galaxy Nexus one day after announcement? Didn't know the devs got it that fast.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kboater:
thats kind of how i feel.

I posted a thread over at android central forums with some of the same concerns you have. others responded with some good comments. if you want to take a look at it: (not promoting the specific website), it just happened to be the website i was on at the time. My 2 long posts are number 1 and number 22:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...692-my-concerns-about-galaxy-nexus-specs.html
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KWKSLVR:
Facepalm

Google is going to put hardware in a Nexus device that is going to run ICS the "best". There is a reason for their selections. Having "max spec'd" hardware doesn't mean jack if the software isn't optimized for it. Just think back to all the complaints about what the Vibrant did on Quadrant's and how laggy it was due to RFS. Consistently, we see that Nexus devices are some of the fastest. A spec sheet isn't what's always important.

You can put a V12 in a Miata (not really) but if your computer isn't tuned for it and all the pieces in between can't put the power to the tires then it doesn't matter. It's still dog slow.

Hardware changes CONSTANTLY, if there's one thing that my Vibrant taught me, it's that the most important thing is having hardware that "fits" with what the OS is optimized to run. What's important is the ability to GET updates. And what's important is the overall experience of the device. The latter is something that will not be known until the device is actually out.

People are whining over, and making a decision on a device that they've never even touched before, it's absolutely mind boggling to me.

As far as "plastic" construction goes, my Vibrant was purchased on Release Day and there's not a single scratch on the screen. I can't say the same for most iPhones or Android devices that I see.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kboater:
very true. guess we will have to wait for more hands on reviews/videos to tell.

I really wanted my next device to be nexus bc i hate being tied to carrier updates. i just really expected this nexus to have the best hardware out.

so now im torn, I really want my next device to be Nexus bc instant updates, and all the development that goes on with all the custom roms anyone could hope for. But I also want the best hardware at the time...Sadly no matter how well this OS works in conjunction with this hardware (optimized), this Nexus simply does not have the best hardware available (of course it is good hardware, just saying its not the best of what is out). So im torn
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MMcCraryNJ:
My take on this whole thing is this:

Google purposefully chose the OMAP4 to be the lead developing platform for ICS. For what specific reasons, we will never know. So while the Exynos might bench better in theory, you have to wonder just how well ICS will optimize for it.

I remember when the Galaxy S line of phones was revealed and much was made about the Hummingbird. You guys have to remember this. The Hummingbird benched consistently better than the comparably-clocked 1 Ghz Snapdragon that was in the N1 at the time and brought the GPU to an entirely different level. A lot of articles praised it for being "so much better than the Snapdragon".

What ended up happening when we got our Vibrants? Samsung had 2.1 on it, a version of Android that was not at all optimized for the Hummingbird. (Not to mention had the borked RFS filesystem) Meanwhile, the N1 had Froyo and it ran circles around our devices. After a lot of *****ing to Samsung/T-Mobile, we got Froyo, but again, it wasn't completely optimized for the HB. And, officially at least, this is where we still stand a year and a half later. Now I'm sure a lot of people unofficially have Gingerbread now and you guys see how much smoother the phone is in general with it, so it is finally able to take advantage of the hardware we had. But now it's too late...those of us that got the phone at launch are due up for an upgrade next July.

So, long story short....if Google decides that the OMAP4 is what they wanted to use as the lead developer platform, I'm totally OK with that because I KNOW the Nexus hardware, while it may not bench the highest or can do the most MFLOPS or run the best Quadrant, will be fully optimized for ICS and will run like a dream. It will get updates the fastest and community development will not die as quick of a death as it did with the Vibrant.

The other thing you have to ask yourself is, do you really trust Samsung/Whatever carrier your GSII is on to not make the same mistakes it made the first time? How long do you think Samsung will take to bake up ICS for the devices, then add Touchwiz, then optimize the platform for the Exynos line, send it to the carrier only to have the carrier bake it with their own garbage, send it back to Samsung for testing, have it sent back to them for additional testing, etc etc. Personally I'm totally done with that. Nexus all the way!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KWKSLVR:
It IS the best hardware...for ICS. Same with the graphics selection. This is a graphics chip that runs freak'in Linux Desktops, not to mention that a slower version of it is already in millions of devices running 3D. One of the reasons Google selected OMAP was for how well it plays with graphics.

A Nexus device is about optimizing and showcasing Google's presentation of their own OS. For people to think that the hardware they selected isn't going to display the maximum potential of ICS is irrational.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
100 percent agreed. ICS will run flawless on the TI-OMAP 4460 (same chip in the Droid Razr).

Google will make damn sure ICS is perfectly tuned on the Ti-OMAP 4460. So perfectly tuned in fact that it will outperform ICS on Exynos.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
either way the GN will be a great phone. is it top of the line? No, that goes to the SGS2 and the beastly hardware. But it has the update advantage over many phones not CM supported. So contrasting JUST hardware no software I place performance as such (this is from TONS of research)

1.Exynos

2.Qualcomm DC

3.Ti Omap

4.Tegra 2

and for anyone with questions as to my order I will gladly explain =)

(in detail and length)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
Would you still say Exynos is top of the line when you install ICS on it and it runs slower than on a Ti-OMAP 4460?

Remember the Hummingbird in theory was faster than the original Snapdragon found in the Nexus One. 2.1 run fast on hummingbird, but 2.2 Dalvik optimizations were designed for Snapdragon. As soon as 2.2 was released and installed on a Hummingbird vs Snapdragon, suddenly the Snapdragon was running faster despite being older than Hummingbird. Why? Because Google designed Froyo's Dalvik optimizations to run smoothly on their hardware of choice.

ICS on Exynos will be slow. ICS on Ti-Omap 4460 will be blazing. Google will guarantee that, as they have shown in the past.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Dalvik runs fast on exynos already, and there is only so much you can optimize, your only thinking processor. Exynos as a whole us faster than	Omap with or without Dalvik due to arch advantages. Omap is just about as stock as arm cores get. Also as I said "Excluding Software", exynos has superior hardware (please read my entire post before commenting) Omap are great SoC and provide a great and standard Dev platform, but Exynos will always be faster in any situation
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
That is your opinion, and my opinion is that ICS will run faster and more smooth on Ti-Omap than on Exynos. Google will make sure the software and hardware are in perfect sync.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I'm talking hardware kiddo, no software, which was the question. Its not opinion its fact, Exynos has more raw power than the Omap in the GN. NO SOFTWARE Exynos>Omap
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
Who cares, your rationale makes no sense because you can't run your phone without Android on it. What is a phone without an operating system?

Unless you want to hold a brick in your hands.

In my opinion ICS on Ti-OMAP 4460 will run faster than on Exynos.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MMcCraryNJ:
The GSII is old news already dude. It has been out since April (regardless of the fact the US carriers just got it a month ago). Google had plenty of time to use Exynos as the chip of choice....but they didn't. They went with the OMAP instead. Who the hell cares what benches faster, what can theoretically run faster, and what has the most Ghz and MFLOPS? The point is that ICS was BUILT TO RUN THE BEST on the OMAP4.

So saying that much....your choices are:

A. Go with the GSII. You will get your Exynos, but with Gingerbread. You will end up waiting awhile for ICS, especially if you get the T-Mobile version since it is different than all of the rest. You will also get a ton of bloat and 800x480 res. on a gigantic screen, as well as very limited software upgrades depending on your carrier.

B. Go with Galaxy Nexus. You will be the first in line for new OS updates direct from Google. Not Samsung, not T-Mobile, but Google. Samsung has always had amazing hardware and not-so-amazing software. This gives you both. You get a sweet 720p curved screen with a totally open and unlocked device.

C. Wait for the next big thing

It is your choice to make what to get, but saying that you just want the best hardware no matter how well it's been optimized for the software it runs is a misguided and foolish decision.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teddyv:
hmmmm, next nexus or iphone 4s........
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungVibrant:
Umm let us compare the two:

Galaxy Nexus manufactured by Samsung:

1) Ti-OMAP 4460 1.2 dual core, with 384 mhz PowerVr SGX 540 GPU

2) Free real time turn-by-turn Google Navigation

3) Amazing large HD sAMOLED display

4) Revolutionary Open Source Ice Cream Sandwhich

5) 1GB RAM

6) LTE, HSPA+ (42mbps), Wimax (if the Sprint rumors are true).

iPhone 4s Manufactred by Foxconn:

1) 800 mhz dual core A5 manufactured by Samsung, with a PowerVr SGX543MP2 GPU.

2) No free real time turn-by-turn Google Nav

3) Small 3.5 inch Retina display is old news, surpassed by sAMOLED HD screens.

4) No open source, no customization, nothing.

5) 512 RAM

6) No LTE, no Wimax, and slower HSPA+ 14.4 only.

7) Siri? Nothing special Google Voice search is practically the same thing

8) Pull down notification bar? Copied Android on that one also.

The only advantage I see about iPhone 4s is the GPU, that is all. Other than that the iPhone 4s is an outdated phone with an outdated operating system.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
Omap>Exynos not because of speed but features it just can do more that cpu was desined to do what the phone was made for no lte or hd streaming an etc an omap is better than snapdragon inmo
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funeralthirst:
what is your reasoning for the tegra 2 being last?

i'd put: exynos>tegra2~=qualcomm>omap

with the tegra possibly edging the qualcomm out.

but then, if you are looking at more than just the hardware, the omap is going to get a huge boost once ics is out.

i am definitely disappointed by google's selection of the omap and would have much preferred an exynos, but it's not a deal breaker on the gn for me. whereas the qualcomm in the tmob sgs2 is a deal breaker.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
No what wrong with you guys its

Exynos>Omap>Tegra>Qualcomm
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funeralthirst:
well, lets consider that an omap soc has never been in a phone that remotely interested me whatsoever until the gn announcement.... just to start.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Qualcomm adreno 220 out performs the Tegra 2 and sgx540 by just a bit. If you want to you could really put the order like this

1.Exynos

2.Omap,Qualcomm, tegra2

The only one that significantly out performs the other is Exynos, the rest are very close. Also I to am disappointed in googles

choice, I like Exynos. Also for the guy saying my logic makes no sense, i'm saying no software optimization dude, not no software period. I'll do a write up if necessary just give me a day our 2 to collect resources and actually write it. I'm not just blowing smoke out my ass when I talk, I do know a thing or two about the subject at hand. This is the stuff I spend my time working with and researching every day. Also let me make it clear that no one needs to defend the GN against my argument, I like it ALOT, just wish it had a different SoC =)

PS. Funeralthirst...we meet again sir...lol
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Wow..people really down play the Qualcomm chips...lol

Qualcomms DC perform really well in my testing, my TP with CM7 churns through everything I throw at it and asks for more =)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
No i dont downplay them there just not up to the competion standards

Omap is a beast when it comes to multimediea

Tegra is great for games

Exynos is good at everyday task an overall is better

Snapdragon is good but does'nt really do one thing better than any other cpu
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
True it doesn't do any specific thing better, I find it does everything just as good Tegra or Omap though. And I will agree that Omap is packed for multimedia. Really the truth is these procs all have just about the same feature sets, just some have a slight (or large in case of exynos) advantage in certain areas. Either way, wish I could get the GN... =(......lol

Just get the device that has the features you want, don't worry about processor (unless that's a key feature for you lol) till Tegra3 its out lol
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
Yea me to I wish I could get one to I love my vibrant but the support for GN is gonna be excellent its Samoled hd an screen size make me drool an Tegra3 is gonna be great its a real innovative cpu the way each core works the companion core is great ideas I can't wait till samsung comes out with there quad which I know is gonna be better as it always is Humming Bird an exynos rule