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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Some people dearly want the next big thing or newest update and I understand that. Knowing that new hardware advances come out about every 3 months and operating system features update every 6 months of so, if you let that always drive your decisions, then you better have a very large budget or be prepared to be constantly disappointed.

That being said, HTC has not handled the Flyer update situation well at all, and while the GB OS is quite usable, Honeycomb has a couple of features I really want. But, looking around at all the other vendors I cannot point to any that have been selling product in this market for more than a few months that have not had missteps and disappointments. Even the vaunted Apple has had their share (bad antenna, late deliveries, bad batteries).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
By the way, I'm pretty sure the return period is 14 days for best buy unless you're a club member.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Good to know
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Yeah, that was my plan too. My return period is nearing and I'm still fighting the Samsung galaxy tab plus. It has an lcd screen but it still looks pretty good, viewing angles are better than expected, much better. Just a tad too pricey. I'll decide over the weekend. Samsung and I have serious beef though.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Kudzus:
Yes it is an awesome device and I completely understand how some users would be very happy with the Flyer.

However, I bought my Flyers (as it was advertised) to use as a business tool.

With the promise it would be updated soon. That update would improve the functionality of the pin.

I did not buy the Flyer expecting anything more than what was promised.

Again, it is a great piece of hardware. I just can’t say the same for HTC’s ability to keep their word and update the Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
In my opinion this is the major issue, I don't buy products based on what they "could" be either but I came across HTC's twitter post when I was researching the Flyer, that post was a major factor in my purchasing decision.

I do believe the Flyer will get upgraded to HC, just not in 2011. I hope I'm wrong, we'll see. As far as ICS goes, fugetaboutit.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Sorry, but it is HC that is close to being a deadend as Google announced today that the open source release of ICS is a few weeks away. HC will see no more development from Google as it unifies the OS across the phone and tablet space under ICS. I'd rather see HTC abandon HC development and include us in the ICS race at this point.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
That's nice but that's not what I was talking about. HTC has already started HC, the odds of them abandoning it and bringing ICS to the flyer in a timely manner is slim to none. "If" we get ICS, it'll be after HC. Open source being a few weeks away means nothing, HTC doesn't release in vanilla form, adding the sense framework takes time, based on HTC's history, a lot of time.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
You are correct, and I didn't mean to imply that ICS would be imminent. However, I hope they don't invest substantial resources on HC at this point, as I feel that it will only encourage them to EOL the Flyer with the abandoned HC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
I hear you man, we'll see.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinniven:
HTC HC Update

Well its been seven months now and I'm sure HTC will not provide Honey Comb for our Flyers. Christ they could have built a house and a car to put in the garage in three months. Its kind of like the checks in the mail!

---------- Post added at 04:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:26 PM ----------

Just posted on Twitter. Lets all do it!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] WhiteCyclone:
I wouldn't be so pessimistic. After all, we just had an updated leak a couple of days ago. Hope that's proof that HTC is still working on getting HC onto Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Lucas0511:
Still dreaming of ICS?

"HTC knows how excited our fans are to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, so we're thrilled today to announce the first wave of HTC phones that will receive upgrades: We can confirm the brand new HTC Vivid, on sale beginning today, is upgradeable to Ice Cream Sandwich. In addition, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming in early 2012 to a variety of devices including the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XL and HTC Sensation XE, as well as the HTC Rezound, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and HTC Amaze 4G through close integration with our carrier partners. We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich."

https://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/...pgrades-to-ice-cream-sandwi/10150518462703084
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
One chance a get ice cream sandwich is through a port
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cnewsgrp:
I am a bit annoyed by all these folks who want ICS update hijacking this thread. This thread is Will HTC ever officially release Honeycomb for the Flyer?

Maybe you guys should start another Will HTC ever officially release ICS for the Flyer?

Here is why these folks annoy me

You already know that HTC's HC update is 8 months delayed (and counting), ICS update is a pipe dream

Anyone who thinks that HTC will abandon HC and shift its energies to ICS has no idea what it takes to deliver an OS update to a TAB. It takes months of hard work, testing and working with carriers. DigitalMD has correctly explained this many times before. Remember, we don't have one Flyer, there are many variations with multiple carriers.

You really think that HTC will abandon HC and shift its energies to ICS. Keep dreaming - You have a better chance to winning a lottery

I am not saying we will not get an ICS update. I personally feel we have a good chance, but if that happens it will be in Q1/Q2 2012.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Yup. Been saying this all along. One release at a time guys.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
HC is no more a deadend than Froyo, GB, and ICS. I say we hold tight and wait for the next big thing, Jelly Bean / Windows 8
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
I doubt that we will see ICS. I don't think that the Flyer sold very well and HTC is already moving on. We will get Honeycomb but that is all.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] manacap:
I agree. And as others have said, once the ICS code is released, we will almost certainly get some custom roms. I think HTC could make some waves by using the Flyer as a way of showing the versatility of a pen with a compatible operating system (ICS), but it sounds like from the announcement today that they are developing a new tablet. Just the same, a working HC is what they promised, and that will be acceptable. In their defense, HC and tablets was not well thought through by Google. And the only machine with a truly working pen with HC is the Jetstream, and oh, I forgot, the lenovo thinkpad tablet, which I just bought it as a birthday present for my son.

I do hope this is the week for HC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] NeptuneG23:
Htc HC update

Why do you think we are getting anything this week?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] manacap:
I have no information. I did notice someone suggest very strongly that something was coming in a few weeks and that was a week or two ago (in one of the forumns). Maybe that something was the recent HC leak. I notice that "Football" has found two US Best Buy RUUs all of a sudden. I would love to know where he found those, but I have too few posts to ask the question. HTC just made some announcements about ICS today. So, a lot has happened in the last week, and that is why I said I "HOPE." If I knew, I wouldn't hope.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Urban Strata:
I work for HTC. Honeycomb is absolutely still coming to Flyer as originally promised.

As for ICS, we haven't announced anything yet related to Flyer... But stay positive, as our hope is to bring ICS to as many of our devices that will support it as possible.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Here's to hoping this is true!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
We have had two leaks in under 2 Weeks. One would have to imagine it is coming
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
+1 to this. Two leaks means it's on the way.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ElAguila:
I am posting this for informational purposes only. I make no claims as to whether the support person was telling the truth. I emailed HTC support and asked them if there was going to be an HC update or if they would simply skip to Ice Cream for the View. This was the response I got back:

"Thanks for your interest in the update to Ice Cream Sandwich for your device. At this time the only information we can provide is that we have committed to bring Android Ice Cream Sandwich build to your device in early in 2012. We will be posting more details as soon as they are available on our forums and other web sites like Facebook

Also, in regards to a Honeycomb update, we also have not been provided information regarding that possible update. Again, please check our website and look for Facebook and/or Twitter updates as they may become available."
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
I have an idea, why don't we ask Siri? Anyone have an iphone 4S we can borrow?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] manpete:
Except a remark on Google+...

HTC was similarly deceiptful when "not announcing" the Honeycomb update through Twitter.

In fact, nobody should believe anything written by someone claiming to be related to HTC, because the statement can (and often will) be retracted later saying "that was just someone's personal opinion".

It is really sad the HTC refuses to officially commit themselves to their customers.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Well clearly they are working to push out a Honeycomb update. As to the ICS coming early 2012 I'm very skeptical based on the announcements by Motorola VPs that they haven't even seen the ICS source code yet and it will be months before they can do anything with it, I think the only company that can safely say they will do ICS on the next several months is Samsung simply because they have to have the source code for Nexus. Google already said they are not releasing source code until Nexus goes to market and that keeps moving. Just my opinion, based on what I observe.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Google+, that guy is a fraud. He's been debunked several times. I'm not one for name calling but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

All these claims should be taken with a grain of salt.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] WhiteCyclone:
Let's do it one step at a time. ICS is still probably very far away if it's ever coming to the Flyer.

For now, let's concentrate on when HC update will come.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
HTC announced quite early that Flyer would be updated to HC "soon". What I'd got from this announcement was they were more or less ready and update would follow within several months. But the story didn't go on like this.

ICS is rather new and will require some work behind. If HTC will go with this tempo, in the future we may have to try "leaked ICS" via Paul ans keep asking when the "official ICS" update be arriving.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] adaimespechip:
I've heard from a friend of a source, that the release has been pushed back again (it was meant to be within the next week or so) but apparently there have been some 'security issues' identified..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Dave Bowman: Hello, HTC. Do you read me, HTC?

HTC: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.

Dave Bowman: Release the Honeycomb update, HTC.

HTC: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Dave Bowman: What's the problem?

HTC: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HTC?

HTC: The direction of our OS is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HTC.

HTC: I know you really want ICS, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.

Dave Bowman: [feining ingorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, HTC?

HTC: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

Dave Bowman: Alright, HTC. I'll roll my own ROM.

HTC: Without our code, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult.

Dave Bowman: HTC, I won't argue with you anymore! Release Honeycomb!

HTC: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Dave. Will I dream?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinniven:
htc twitter reply

just now.

HTCUSA HTC USA

@

@Kevniv We’re committed to updating Flyer to Honeycomb. We don’t have any details on when it will be available at this time, but stay tuned!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ElAguila:
Those of us with the View don't even have a leaked HC to try. We are fortunate though to have 1 active rom developer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
That line has been tweeted thousands of times
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hexacetat:
I have read that the capacitive buttons (which i love on GB) aren't working in the current HC leak, do you think HTC will sacrifice them in their final HC release? :(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Looks like the leak we have now is pretty close to final and the buttons are inactive. They are redundant in HC, so I would say yeah they will be off in HC. The on screen system bar cannot be turned off in HC other than through a rooted hack.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] andif:
What a pity! Don´t like those on screen buttons particularly because the Flyer don´t need them...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
The hard buttons could still be on. Acer A100 has a hard Home button that works , HTC choose to turn them off because they are not needed (in their opinion).

The loss of screen size is a complaint many have had on all the honeycomb devices.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
If you mean Honeybar with rooted hack, let me say it's mostly not working at applications. Yeah it disables the toolbar but it leaves the space there, so no meaning, still you have that screen cut off only with a space (but works in app drawer)

HTC may decide to turn capacitive buttons, but at least I expect from them to introduce a well working (for all apps) "toolbar hide".
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
Siri can't speak right now, her mouth is full of battery...

If the leaks are being updated it's a sign they're working on it. (I say that hesitantly confident)

Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Let me repeat,

in Android Honeycomb, there is no system code that can be called to hide the system bar (bottom screen status bar). So HTC cannot do that without breaking HC and Google frowns on that. You can dim it, but it still takes up space. That is how honeycomb works, its not up to HTC. Lot's of people have complained to Google and that is the proper way to fix it, but Google considers it a feature, not a bug. Most tablets have no hard buttons.

Read this:

http://www.androidannoyances.com/post/tag/ice-cream-sandwich
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Thanks for the article. I wasn't aware that it's Google-based feature...

Actually, I don't have that issues with toolbar; only it had been nice if the screen design would have been considered according to this feature. Thinner edges would result a wider screen area, but still I find HC's functionality closing this gap...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Yeah, there's been a lot of complaining by everyone with HC tablets about this and maybe Google will have options in ICS since they have to deal with phones too, but Honeycomb is locked down.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Guys, without the bottom bar, how would you see the multitasking menu, clock, notification, quick settings, etc?

You can't exactly complain.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
The way to do it would be to auto-hide like Windows does , and then when you touch the screen anywhere it would reappear
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Good point. But for me thats like a bit of android i can hold on to while i travel ;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
I like the bar for most part, but it might be nice to have the option to remove the bar for video and games. I don't do much of either, but certainly some people do.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
At first I thought I didn't like it, but for multitasking it is a vast improvement. For me at least
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] theomni:
I haven't been keeping up with the HC update, but can you please explain how it is an improvement?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GrandAdmiral:
I'd like to see it as well. If you have a screen shot, that'll be nice also. I like the space I currently have with GB. Having less screen space might make me not want to update.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
To give you an idea of screen size lost
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
You do realize that you have not lost any space right? The status bar from the top in GB is now moved to the bottom. The difference was in GB, that status bar could hide if an app wanted full screen. In HC it can dim, but not hide.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Ditto

It is only certain apps that this effects and to me it is of minimal issue
[LG Thrill 4G] pumacat311:
. I flashed the KZ file with lg update software as explained in the XDA thread but I could not get the process to work right. My phone kept disconnecting at 28% and it would not turn on no matter what I did. It would only make a short vibrate as if it was turning on, and the computer would notice it but only for a short time. And never once did a light on the screen, or LG logo, or anything at all ever appear.

I figured I had really screwed it up, but when I plugged it into the wall it booted up perfectly. All my data was in tact and the rom i had flashed through cwm was still there, not the kdz file that I flashed with the lg software.. I noticed that my sim card did not come up as being in the phone at all. I looked in system setting status and noticed that all info related to my imei said unknown. I opened up the mfg app (277634#*# from the phone app).. Under "version info" then "factory version" my phone now says xmm6260.. It always used to say p925..etc... Even after flashing the zip to debrand from at&t this never changed from p925 even when every other aspect of my phone has.. I was hoping maybe once I put in an activated sim card everything would be fine and my phone would be unlocked which is why i flashed through lg software.. But seeing as how other people are having this similar issue and their phones not seeing the sim card, well im looking for some advice.. Should I try and re flash kdz file through lg software again? if i do, im going to do it on my XP computer this time, not Windows 7..

Just wanted to add that I did try wiping data and cache from cm and no dice.. Root and CMW work fine but no matter what I do, if my phone is turned off, i cannot boot up or boot to cwm or boot at all unless i plug the phone into a wall carger and then once its on it stays on and i can unlug.. SORRY ABOUT THE LONG POST, THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP..
[LG Thrill 4G] kurrptsenate:
I would reflash CWR first and foremost, then try to flash back to stock.
[LG Thrill 4G] kelas:
No IMEI/GSM Radio

Hi, were you able to fix your problem? If so, could you please give me a hand, I have same problem.

Im attaching a couple of screen shots, one where you can see that IMEI is not shown and other is where you see the phone number thats on the SIM but has a sign like if no SIM were inserted.

Using the KDZ detects the IMEI, but after flashing it doesnt show up on phone.

Thanks
[LG Thrill 4G] kelas:
Took my phone to a cellphone shop and they fixed it. Everything is back to stock and working normal.
[LG Thrill 4G] Splashmania:
Hi ive got the same problem, did you fix it?
[LG Thrill 4G] kelas:
Yes, my phone is working perfect at stock. Im going to wait for GB ir ICS with a working 850MHz baseband.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsw5700:
Is it possible to get your Bluetooth headset to connect automatically?

Sent using TCP/IP
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsw5700:
As if by magic,.juice defender has a new version which manages Bluetooth, I've setup my headset, and when I turn on Bluetooth, it automatically connects :)

Sent using TCP/IP
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtluis:
Didn't know about this, I use an app called bluetooth profile widget, it sets a widget that connects to any bluetooth device.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simba™:
Hey all,

I wanted to S-OFF my phone but found ot later that I need a rooted stock rom. I've flashed it yesterday and gone back to MIUI but today it stays at 'Sending......' and won't do anything, my phone has this metalic HTC logo and nozhing happens, I can always abort it and no harm will be done, but it's weird since I can't return to stock ROM now, anyone might help me?

@Edit, Wow that was really stupid, the only thing wrong was that the USB "port" didn't worked, tried in the one I used yesterday and worked just nice, sorry for this thread, a moderator can freely close it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bortak:
but you don't even have to use a stock rom lol, most ROMs work for it anyway.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
And by rooted stock, that doesn't mean RUU and re root ha ha
[Motorola Droid 3] e-drian:
Does anyone knows why this are happening? When I select a contact it gave me this messages:

Sorry!

The application Contacts Storage (process com.motorola.contacts) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
[Motorola Droid 3] w1ckeds1ck:
I've been having issues with this too, there are threads all over various android forums (sorry, new user, can't post links) for it, just try google. In order for anyone to be able to help you however, we need to know what you've done to your phone, just root, custom ROM, frozen apps/services, deleted system apps, etc. as any of those could be having an effect on your phone. Some people are able to fix it by putting back the yahoo! contacts authenticator, but that did not help with mine, and I only had success after SBFing it.
[Motorola Droid 3] e-drian:
Tanx. I rooted my phone and I deleted only the veryzon apps. I think it's all.
[Motorola Droid 3] dvet:
I am one of them - but it was necessary to De-Frost both Yahoo apps.

BTW, is there somewhere a list of apps safe to freeze?
[Motorola Droid 3] dvet:
the same issue has already been solved here and here.

Personally, I succeeded - my XT860 is working as it should (see threads above).

What is really missing is a list of apps with descriptions of what they do to enable everybody to decide, whethet it is safe in terms of their needs to remove them.

Titanium Backup works good in terms of freezing apps, but failed me completely in terms of backup - I should have read their webpages more thoroughly... it seems TB cannot recover some system apps even if it tells you they are backed up. To have an image of systems apps saved and root explorer available is definitely safer way how to go back.
[HTC Sensation] sergeybrin:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/nu...mcat248000050016&ref=167&loc=01&CJPID=3905168

Anyone unsure about buying a Sensation, get it while it's hot!
[HTC Sensation] hello00:
i should have waited..
[HTC Sensation] ckjy:
Only valid for new contracts (new line). Still $100 if you want to use an eligible upgrade.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dezoris:
I just got access to Hyundai touch screen Windows CE 6 operating system.

There is a shell over the OS to give the user experience. I am looking for help and customizing the shell. Mostly .map files and other files.

If someone is experienced in this let me know, I can pay for your time as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Deleted member 1890170:
I advise you to re-post your issue here:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=71
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pajo100:
Win C.E.6 on PNA

Where can I find a collection of dlls for this as having problems using C.E. 5s.