yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wu_wei_lion:
Take a look at this article: It seems the omap has a features that optimize HD in addition to dual channel memory control. They give a couple of other reasons but those seem to be the main ones. I was hoping for the omap 4470 but what can you do?

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/100553-why-the-galaxy-nexus-uses-omap-instead-of-exynos
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raistline:
Correct me if I am wrong here but didn't the T-mobile Varient of the Galaxy S2 get an OMAP chip because the Exynous is not capable of handling the HSPA+ at 42mbps? I bring this up because Google/Samsung will have the phone in 2 variants, one for CDMA and one for GSM. Even though there will be two models with different radios Google would want to make sure they have the same hardware everywhere else so it is easier to manage updates for it. So it makes perfect sense to use the OMAP chip instead of the Exynous when you look at it this way.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Actuall the TmobIle SGS2 has a Qualcomm apq8060 =3
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raistline:
Eh, I was close enough., Qualicomm, OMAP--- Same thing.

I do believe my theory of non-use of the Exynos holds water because of network band compatibility and wanting a universal chip. But hey I am not an expert in this area, I am just extrapolating a theory out of what I have read.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funeralthirst:
pretty much.

if you do a write up, i'd read it (as long as it's technical, i'm not too interested in just benchmark comparisons). the soc aspect of phones has been an interest of mine since i did a research paper in my computer architecture class on phone socs (largely focusing on android), but this was right before the dual cores were coming out, so the dual core info was kind of sparse. hell, even now it's kind of difficult to find info on the different implementations outside of the arm site's a9 info.

yup, lol. except i agree with you this time.

= )
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
From what i heard the adreno is better on papper then others an 220 out performing others by i little bit is bad since sgx was made in 07 an tegra 20??
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I don't even think Adreno uses a unified shader architecture. The SGX540 is more similar to a Nvidia or AMD gpu in that its unified,I think the Adreno might be like the Mali400 which is more similar to how a Nvidia 7800 would work. This is theory in the Adreno department since that info isn't publicly available, but the Mali 400 I know isn't a unified shader architecture
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It is disappointing its only a bit better, but the Adreno line

has improved significantly in recent years.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
Yea qualcomm needs to do something big they have really fell behind an if htc drops its over for qualcomm but they do have krait coming which should be a changer but i dont see it coming back to being top dog with omap coming with there 5 series an nvidia with that monter that in a cage with 5 cores transformer 2 here i come an samsung with exynos 4212......an wondering what rom are u using :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
did you say you want to know what ROM I'm using? if so I'm using the one I'm working on for my Vibrant (havent had time to finish due to new work schedule these last few weeks)

CM7 for my NS4G, and CM7 for my Touchpad, all with my custom Kernels. Krait looks like its really gonna turn out good for Qualcomm, they seem to notice now that Mobile gaming is becoming bigger on these devices. I personally dont care to much for Tegra3, its gonna be cool but Samsung has won my heart with Hummingbird and Exynos =P I'm excited for what they got next (if anything)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
5 Cores an your not excited im getting transformer 2 cant wait
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The 5th core is for LP mode, when in use it switched to the other 4 (at least from what I've read/heard) so its really only a quad. On the GPU side Tegra3 is gonna be alot better than 2 but It remains to be seen if it will really compete with The latest PowerVR MP or Mali t604 which are the latest from ARM and Imagination Technologies, which both have significantly more experience with Low power systems than Nvidia. From what I know nvidia tegra gpu work alot like the desktop ones do and dont even used TBDR (tile based deferred rendering) I'll have to look into it more. PowerVR owns the field when it comes to TBDR with ARM following close second. If Nvidia isnt using TBDR they are behind the game in LP graphics solutions as this would greatly help their Tegra line. Again, I'll look into it and get some more info on that.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chest3r:
Agreed, i have a Tegra2 and a Qualcomm device.. i hate the Tegra2 :(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Well, I will say in Tegra2 defense that it had higher full rate than the Adreno, but Adreno has higher geometry than Tegra, and even higher geometry than Mali 400MP. If anyone is curious the reason Exynos gpu is so much better its because it has about

3x the texturing ability of everyone besides the iPad 2. Its geometry is average it us about 3/4 the performance if the iPad 2 with fill rate
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
Ever heard of something called a comma?

I would say the Mali 400MP4 is about as strong as the SGX 540 in the OMAP 4460.

But the SGX chip is way more future proof, and is more efficient.

What I'm trying to say:

1.OMAP 4460/4430

2.Exynos 4210

3.Qualcomm Scorpion

4.Tegra 2
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I can tell you 100% for certain that the SGX540 comes nowhere close to the Mali400MP4. The fillrate on Mali is easily 5x or more the sgx540 in the omap proc. (forgot mali exact #) The omap4 is a great SoC but its really just got a OCd 540 @ arounf 300mhz, which really doesnt do a whole lot for the overall performance as the SGX540 doesnt scale quickly beyond 200mhz. The exynos is = to the A5 in the Iphone4S but behind the hiogher clocked A5 in the Ipad2. The Ipad2 is the king of mobile horsepower atm untill we can get a good look a Tegra3 which will most likely take that crown. Tegra2 is definitely the slowest of the DC SoC, all benchmarks and current IRL performance gives the order of

(pnit picking order)

1.Exynos

2.Qualcomm

3.Omap

4.Tegra

or if you dont want to nit pick

(IRL order)

1.Exynos

2.Qualcomm,Omap,Tegra
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
I haven't seen any benchmark where the Qualcomm chip actually beats the OMAP 4430, and the 4460 is 25% faster, so qualcomm is definitely behind the 4460.

And as far as I know the only superior thing on the Mali400 is the fillrate, but the fillrate of the SGX 540 is sufficient enough to support the resolution of the Galaxy Nexus, and once we get the fillrate out of the picture the Mali400 has very little left I must say, no TBDR, and horrible geometry performance.

Nice picture showcasing the geometry performance.

And here is one showcasing fillrate, the SGX 540 here is clocked at 304 Mhz, the once in the Galaxy Nexus runs at 384 Mhz, so I would say the difference is not as big as you make it seem, not even close to 5x.

I wouldn't say the Exynos is superior to the OMAP 4460 at all, they are identical on the CPU part, and on the GPU part the performance is determined by the benchmark or game, and if you look at the pc market right now, geometry is the way to go.

edit: Actually the Galaxy Nexus GPU runs at 307Mhz to save power, but can be overclocked to 512Mhz.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9xnine:
Although it appears that the Exynos is faster why didn't they use it in the Galaxy nexus?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
I belive the reason the Galaxy Nexus is so slow is because of the un optimized OS.

The same thing happened to the Nexus S, but a few custom roms fixed that problem easily, also the Galaxy Nexus pushes around 2.5 times the pixels of the Galaxy S II, and still is competitive.

Personally I would go for the OMAP chip, it's better suited HD stuff, and is among the best when it comes to 3D gaming, only second to Apple, I would say it's kind of like this:

1. A5

2. OMAP, Exynos

3. Qualcomm

4. Tegra 2

The SGX 540 also has another advantage, that being Apple.

Since all the SGX chips have similar architecture, a game optimized for the A5 will automatically be optimized for the OMAP 4460, which is not the case on the Exynos.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
Why is it un-optimized? Didn't Google said that everything will be optimized with ICS?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
They probably meant optimized in another way than most people would think, I belive they ment it would use most of the SOC's features, not directly trying to get the best performance, the keyword seems to be compatability here, as this is a developer phone it would make sense.

Some great developers will surely get the phone running much faster as soon it is released outside the UK.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omairzeeshan:
Wow. This is amazing. I was thinking of buying the Galaxy SII. No more !

---------- Post added at 01:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 AM ----------

I'd read it too! 10char
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THE_KINGDOM:
am i correct in saying that although the TI OMAP 4460 is more compatible with LTE than the Exynos, the GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus does not come with an LTE radio installed? :(

sadly and stupidly only the CDMA version which bares little relevance on a world scale because it's purely a North American Technology.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
But I'm sure that's not only reason they chose omap maybe to stop fragmentation going wit quad would fragment android
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THE_KINGDOM:
what im saying is why the hell would they not make an LTE version of the nexus for gsm?!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
I belive it has HSDPA+ on non CDMA carriers.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
If the Galaxy S 2 HD has the same resolution as the Note then it will perform way worse than the Galaxy Nexus, ICS or not.

it seems you are just talking out of your ass :rolleyes:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
S2 HD uses snapdragon so yea its gonna perform worse but galaxy note is exynos at 1.5 an it has HD display an they say its fastest android phone out
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
Galaxy Note runs at 1.4 Ghz, not 1.5.

Also I have already tested the device, and let me tell you:

IT WAS SLOW AS ****.

I promise you would be better off with a HTC Hero.

My Nexus S outperformed the Galaxy S 2 in all benchmarks, and the Galaxy Note got it's ass kicked, i though the Exynos would have a slight advantage at a high resolution, but apparently that's not the case.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] razor 116:
Your Nexus S, what ROM/Kernel configuration, SGS2 what ROM/Kernel configuration. I ask because I have both devices and the SGS2 is in such a different league that the Nexus S doesnt even exist.

Simple fact if the SGS2 and the Galaxy Nexus were running the same ROM with the same optimizations (Don't forget ICS is optimized for OMAP) the SGS2 would come out on top in every conceivable Benchmark, I say this in every comparison with these two devices, the only thing the Galaxy Nexus has is its screen and for a limited time Ice cream Sandwich.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dario3040:
Blah blah, typical biased GS2 user trying to defend his device.

That is not a fact, tell me how ICS is optimized for the OMAP?

The processor cores are identical (well almost).

The GPU's are where the SOC's differ the most, and they are pretty much equal.

Actually saying that is being nice towards the Mali.

Benchmark optimized for the SGX chip:

Benchmark (more) optimized for the Mali chip:

Also note that the Optimus 3D has a weaker CPU, and very bad drivers.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomow:
I'm just happy that my motorola razr runs dead space 2 flawlessly :p
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volstagg.The.Valiant:
this is a good discussion.but there doesn't seem to be a conclusion as to which is better..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
I don't care which is better, I do know OMAP is very open so lots of people can use it for side projects and other linux devices. Also it has a dedicated DSP that playback HD videos very smoothly. I prefer OMAP, but I heard TI is wanting to pull out from supplying mobile phone.

Edit: Why did you bring back this thread from the dead?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volstagg.The.Valiant:
I was thinking of getting a galaxy nexus. Few of my friends said it has an old gpu and slower processor than galaxy s II. So I was a bit conflicted about which one to get. And then I stumbled upon this thread. And that is why I brought it back from the dead

Sent from my rotary phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
http://http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1301759

check out the scores that iphone is claiming
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-4s...-as-galaxy-s-ii-and-all-other-android-phones/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mziol:
Might wanna fix the link :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
2nd post.......
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
i saw that several days ago

and then the next day after that went live, endanget (whatever spelling) found out those results were faked

similar to the way how we can make Quadrant show faster than it's supposed to, on devices you know by heart can't make it to 6000 quadrant
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mziol:
Beat me to it!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PoisonWolf:
Ditto. Quadrant is a pretty useless AP in my opinion.

I find it hard to believe that my Nook Color can score 2400 on Quadrant and some GS2s here are scoring 2700.....see the uselessness in that app? :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
sounded more like a marketing ploy to sell more iphones to people who already have them .thats why i love android so many flavors . albeit iphoney is a good OS its just so boring for my liking . i would like to see what the percentage of sales that they brag about is to new iphone users meaning coming from a different device
[Desire HD General] nishore_b:
Hello All,

I did noob job of running ace hack kit with a cutom rom :(

Right now my phone just boots to the HTC screen and thats it.

When I tried the recovery from Hboot menu its not working.

Can someone help to install a recovery from Hboot menu?

I have several working roms and nandroid back up of my stock.

Please help me with this.

HBOOT menu looks this way

ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT 0.85.0024

MICROP 0438

RADIO 26.03.02.26_M

eMMC Boot

Flashing CWM recovery through Fastboot failed :(
[Desire HD General] evaworld:
ok once you have s-off boot loader u can flash any custom recovery , connect your device with usb in h-boot

u can download recovery.zip to your computer and then unzip this to your computer , just run it " intall-recovery-windows"

downlod this one

http://www.multiupload.com/YPL3DOG7HX

tell me if this works
[Desire HD General] nishore_b:
No that option is not working.

the error says failed.

While the HBOOT is loading I am getting following error too.

No Image....PD98IMG....

Some 4 lines like this.
[Desire HD General] 314:
Try renaming it to PD98IMG.zip

You could always reflash stock 1.32 and re-root it.
[Desire HD General] evaworld:
ok sorry for that

1- do you know if debugging mode is on or off ?

if debugging mode is on u can use this method "flah recovery and ooting desire hd"

after using this you will have recovery and buseybox and su

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Ace:_Rooting_&_CyanogenMod

if debugging mode is off , u have to go to the development section and begin from the beggining using any rooting guide
[Desire HD General] nishore_b:
Solved

Flashed CMW recovery by PD98IMG.zip and it worked like a charm.

Once I was into recovery, I installed the and my beautiful android is back again.

Thanks Everyone
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Hi guys and girls. Not sure if this thread would prove itself useful, but here is idea behind it..

I like to keep on top of Android news, hence I check many, many, many sources, and it gets overwhelming at times.

So let's do it this way, once you come across something new/interesting/exciting/worth mentioning, instead of starting a new thread just post news/links/pics/videos here as a single post, and we can have discussion as well as keep up with the news.

Basically, let's make it one massive OT/OFFT here :)

I suppose heated discussions are ok, as long as we don't start insulting each other. As good old saying goes "Truth is born in argument"

Have a good time :)
[HTC Sensation] sromer:
There's an off-topic section

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Correct and i'm well aware of that. You seem to misunderstand my idea. It's for Sensation users and more for the news than off topic, basically share the news but Other is allowed.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
http://m.mobot.net/viewsonic-viewpad-10e-pops-argos-19999-31706

Looks like a very good deal to me. :-)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] at45:
Does anyone know if there's a registry key to disable haptic feedback (and ideally replace it with a very brief flash of both lights in the capacitive buttons)?

Long shot I know, but worth asking. The internet doesn't seem to know.

Cheers
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tessut:
There is no registy tweak afaik
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digitalcoder:
Hi -

I think there must be. At least for sammy phones:

http://www.wpcentral.com/closer-look-samsung-s-extra-settings
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tessut:
I checked it and i think its driver based on omnia i didn't find any registry for that nor my trophy
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] O_G:
Moved to WP7 Q&A

This is not development. Please post in correct section.

Take it easy

O_G
[Click Themes and Apps] zipredictive:
Can you guys please try this app on a 1.6 2.2 or 2.3 rom?

I think you'll need the market patch

Does it work? Any problem with screen resolution? Thank you
[Click Themes and Apps] vman987:
yup i installed that app today and it works just fine...no problems with screen resolution... i'm using nFinity 1.12
[Click Themes and Apps] zipredictive:
Thank u mate
[Click Themes and Apps] vman987:
anytime... :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] prnkmonkie:
I love the phone (got it launch day) puts my Mytouch 3G to shame. I love everything about this phone....... well except for one thing.

I am having a hell of a time with audio playback. 60% of the time i try to play back music on stock music player it tells me that the audio format is not supported on this device. using Winamp wasnt much of a help as it will just cycle through songs and freeze up.

resetting the phone helps sometimes but not everytime.

I also tried removing all the music from my phone and re-copying all the files. still an issue.

I've also noticed it acts up a lot more via bluetooth (i have a pair of rocketdog behind the ear headphones)

I'm stumped...

Any ideas? Anyone else getting this issue?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
codec, song encoding comes to mind

also try with different amount of songs

i know on the old SGS if you had more than few hundreds of mp3 or mix format songs in it, it can drive it crazy

so try a couple hundreds, then work your way up, until you find the amount of files it can read before it becomes too much.

all this can be fixed once rooted, and installing better media players

winamp for android sucks by the way

you should try the ICE cream leaked media player from stock android, it's better
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] movieaddict:
Curious why not just stream the music from ur pc?? google music is practically flawless
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] The_Biz:
Seen a user in another thread had to format their card in this phone, then add music. Try that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] prnkmonkie:
I tried this last night. didn't help much. I'm 99.98% sure it has something to do with my bluetooth headphones. Going to buy a new pair and see if it makes a difference...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] The_Biz:
If you get the sony ericsson mw600, you'll be amazed at their features. I love them and use them all the time and the battery lasts longer than the specs say. I can get 14hrs out of them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] prnkmonkie:
Just picked up a new set of headphones.... does the exact same thing.... odd.... wondering if its just my phone or if this is a glitch...haven't seen anyone else report this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ronin4740:
Pandora and google music work great with my motorola s10-hd headset...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] eleazar6:
I'll be getting my phone tues. I use sony dr-bt22 bluetooth headphones.... will report back.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zaventh:
I have this problem when steaming music over A2DP through stock Music app or Google Music. All 320kbps fixed rate MP3s. I've tried via my integrated car audio, computer, headphones... all same result when playing local media. Streaming via Rdio works completely fine. Playing local media without A2DP also works fine... Logcat reports some kind of permission related problem...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] KillaHurtz:
Weird, I play FLAC or 320s all day long on this thing and no "Format Unsupported" has come up on regular headset/aux cable or BT. I have however, had a problem with the music stopping when I get a notification..the time continues to move but no sound.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] eleazar6:
Just an update, my stereo BT headphones work fine
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidbbb:
can anyone help me find either the jmk froyo software that i can put onto my galaxy tab gt-p1000 that does not have the bootloaders or. . .

try and find the correct files to install the final release of overcomes froyo so i can put the overcome 1.4.4 or it may be 1.4.7 onto my tab.

the issue i'm having is battery life on the tab is a bit rubbish! if trying froyo does not solve the issue then i'll sell it and buy the galaxy s instead, i've tried battery calibration and different gingerbread roms but the battery life is not good enough.
[Droid 2 Global General] patt2k:
Hey guys my friend is about to buy droid 2 global ( i own galaxy s2) so I am familiar with rooting and stuff.

Now the question when i saw the droid it had to go thru activation from VERIZON.

If i buy unlock code i should be somehow able to first activate then somehow enter the code and unlock.

would rooting be recommended first to avoid activation? or how do i proceed. Thank you guys
[Droid 2 Global General] leobg:
You don't have to activate to unlock the gsm radio. Go buy unlock code online from somebody of the vendors. If you are lucky, code will work and you will be able to unlock the phone. If you aren't lucky, code will not work since Verizon alters codes of some handsets. In this case do not waste your money to purchase code elsewhere. You will need to get the phone activated with verizon on an account that's postpaid and been in good standing for at least 60 days. Then the owner of the account can call Verizon Global Support and request unlock code.

As for bypassing the activation screen, simply tap in all four corners of the sceen. Put foreign SIM in the phone (any non-Verizon/Vodaphone would do) this will trigger the subsidy code request mode where you punch in the 8 digit unlock code. You can read a bit more on unlocking D2G if you search around a bit.

Good luck!