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[Atrix 4G General] chaous2000:
I will be keeping my current atrix. Though they added 1080p video capture and a bigger screen, they kept everything else the same and even took away the finger scanner that set it apart from other devices. Though this phone may be a good buy for new costumers, i don't think its worthy of us to be getting rid of our current atrixs.
[Atrix 4G General] JDMpire:
I agree with this completely. My atrix ain't going anywhere. If I didn't just get a Thrill, I might be in the market for a new(er) phone, just not this one.
[Atrix 4G General] NoNameAtAll:
There's also the fact that we have an unlocked bootloader and this thing doesn't.
[Atrix 4G General] mkoby:
I'm confused, I thought that Motorola announced that they weren't going to lock their boot loaders anymore or that they were going to give people a way to unlock them if they wanted to (like HTC did).

Originally the Atrix had a locked bootloader, and then Motorola unlocked it when their Gingerbread update. But my understanding is that AT&T didn't want the bootloader unlocked so if you have an AT&T Atrix you still have to hack or use the foreign ROM to get the unlocked bootloader.

Did I miss something?
[Atrix 4G General] Sparx10:
I heard that they /were/ going to unlock it, but didn't. I have a Bell Atrix updated to gingerbread but mine is still locked. Er, was, until I manually unlocked it.

Maybe if you buy one stock updated to GB it's unlocked.
[Atrix 4G General] mkoby:
It's still carrier dependent (at least I believe it is). The carrier can decide if they want the bootloader unlocked and if not then it's locked. This is why the AT&T and Bell ones are still actually locked. But they're unlockable, and it's not Motorola doing it.

The Atrix, Photon 4G, and other devices with carrier locked bootloaders were unlocked so I'm not sure why the "this phone has a locked bootloader" is a con, because those kinds of things are usually fixed by the community here.

I'm personally interested in the Atrix 2, for two reasons. 1) the price (it's cheaper than the AT&T SGS2), and 2) my local AT&T store doesn't have the SGS2 in stock, they don't even have a demo phone and claim that it's an online only phone. And I refuse to purchase a device I can't at least SEE first. So hopefully AT&T will have the Atrix 2 in stores for me to paw at before I make a purchasing decision.

That in mind, a locked bootloader doesn't really turn me away from the device, because the fine folks here always find a way around those kinds of things.
[Atrix 4G General] island-guy:
Yeah......moto must have loads of atrix parts lying around they need to get rid of. Don't know the real purpose behind this, kind of like a pacifier to give atrix fans something to suck on .....the new RAZR coming out is pretty sweet with some impressive specs so that tells you what they apparently think of the atrix target market. It's also sad the fingerprint scanner is not found on anything coming out.
[Atrix 4G General] jameshafer:
atrix2

I have been using mine all day long. Its running Android 2.3.5 Send me instructions and I will provide a ROM.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
As impressive as the specs are, why would they go back to using the name "RAZR"?

IMO more people will be turned off by the name...
[Atrix 4G General] rquinn19:
Benchmarks, review?
[Atrix 4G General] rlillard:
I disagree about the RAZR. I had a V3 for a few years and then a V9. I retired my V9 to buy my Atrix on opening day. Both RAZRs were great phones. The V9 was dented from being dropped and the paint was off the back cover. The radio (cell) in both phones was awesome. I could maintain connections cals deep in my office building when co-workers with Nokias and Korean phones couldn't. After all these devices are telephones - first and foremost. This is why I am a fan of Motorola in spite of their stupid marketing department.

BTW, IMO the only reason the Atrix has been a dud for Motorola and ATT is marketing on the part of both companies. Speaking from my experience as a communications and RF engineer, Motorola RF engineers are first rate.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
I'll take it a step further. I had the V3i, KRZR, V8,V9, and V9x. I liked the RAZR series (obviously), but the "name" took a beating towards the end.

IDK maybe it's me, but I think its a little weird that they are going back to the "RAZR well" again...
[Atrix 4G General] newdroidgal:
great...I was in att for an hour debating between Atrix 2 and Galaxy 2..I got the Atrix 2..so I got a bad phone?:o
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Not really, at the moment we are just waiting to see if any devs pick this phone up which I hope someone does because this phone would do great with a custom kernel and rom.
[Atrix 4G General] billyblonco:
Idk I think the OG may still have a leg up on the atrix 2. http://developer.motorola.com/products/compare/?items=17877,18938 1080p @ 24fps?
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
VS 0fps at 1080p on the OG Atrix. Also, it's probably high profile @24fps since the OMAP supports the NEON instruction set vs the 30fps 720p using only main profile.
[Atrix 4G General] fire159:
hey guys i realy love atrix 2 design and camera ;)

and my quastion is which one is more powerfull :

NVIDIA AP - NVIDIA Tegra 2 AP20H Dual Core in atrix 1

or

PowerVR SGX 540 -TI OMAP4430-1000 in atrix 2

:confused:
[Atrix 4G General] cheetablaze:
This atrix 2 is very snappy! Looking forward to some SU love from some devs! The phone is super thin and the back is really grippy. I'm going to put the camera through it's paces today as well. I did have the captivate so the screen isn't as bright and vibrant. But the higher resolution is easily noticeable. Side loading is available and I have around 500 mega of free ram on boot up. 49 dollars at best buy for 2 yr renewal. I'm paranoid because there isn't any cases for sale yet.
[Atrix 4G General] rodger-sp:
At&t has sone speck candyshell and otterbox has the difender and the comuter for sall on there websiye. I orderd the defender and will post a review if we ever get are own section.

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that site is wrong I shot a video in 1080p and it was at 29fps on 1080p and 29fps on 720p. I have a Atrix 2 so I know just saying.

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It shots video at 29fps on 1080p.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Motorola should start giving away free phones to devs like Samsung...
[Atrix 4G General] marvin02:
some reading about TI OMAP vs Tegra 2
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
ATT store had a bunch of cases for it
[Atrix 4G General] dragon_76:
Sounds to me like right now the Tegra chip is a better option because of power saving. I don't see the H.264 issue as significant at all. All mobile devices are finicky about what codecs they will play.
[Atrix 4G General] Phalanx7621:
If you're going to get a new phone, why would you go with the Atrix 2, especially if you already HAVE an Atrix? Just curious what people's logic is with this. I'd much rather have a samsung galaxy Sii, which was also just released for at&t. I guess I can understand it's a new device and there are some subtle differences, but to me it seems like the same phone. 1080p recording, a better display and a new gimicky version of gingerbread aren't enough to convince me.
[Atrix 4G General] dasfiend:
I got an atrix 2, and here's why:

1) Best Buy offered to buy my old atrix for $US 161.

2) The new atrix was 50 bucks vs 200 for the S2 (all prices are best buy prices)

3) My wife has the epic touch 4g and the battery life is horrible. The so-called "android OS" bug is infuriating.

4) The screen on the atrix 2 is only slightly worse IMHO. It loses out big-time in brightness and those amoled blacks are so nice, but the higher resolution results in a crisper image. I also wanted to get rid of the pentile screen on my atrix that was one of the two things I hated on my OG atrix.

5) The other thing I didn't like on my OG atrix was the camera. The camera on the A2 is amazing. (S2 has a great camera too, this is only a reason to not stay with my atrix1)

So in the end best buy paid me $90 net (my original atrix was $20 at Costco) to take the a2 home, and I'm a poor new parent with a technology addiction so......

As for other people talking about the cost of the contract extension, they are using a false comparison. I will be paying my at&t bill regardless of what phone I have; my monthly rate has stayed the same. The only "cost" of reupping my contract is the loss of ability to switch carriers. In my area at&t coverage is fine and I am on a grandfathered unlimited plan so I'm not leaving anytime soon.

Peace,
[Atrix 4G General] AnyMal:
You may not remember this but RAZR was an insanely popular, a "must have" phone when it came out and was as much of a status symbol as iPhone became in 2007.
[Atrix 4G General] newdroidgal:
haha..no clue what that is..I was a blackberry user for so long that I am absolutely lost on this phone.

My contacts show over 700 because att guy imported all my facebook contacts.:confused:

one positive..I did get my exchange to sync though.

maybe I am in the wrong forum for a new phone user:o
[Atrix 4G General] cheetablaze:
Aw crap I forgot the overpriced ATT stores have cases. I'll look it up and get it on amazon hopefully. ATT stores are a rip off!
[Atrix 4G General] newdroidgal:
Let me know what you find. I need a case for sure..I am a phone dropper but will not pay att prices so they can profit even more:p

Maybe there are compatible ones?
[Atrix 4G General] cheetablaze:
Aw crap, nothing but otter box right now. I need to get this puppy in something quick! Commuter case here I come!
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
So I wonder considering the Photon's ports are in the Same configuration as this New Atrix 2 if the HD Docks and what not will work for this as well. I would assume so just not sure. Also on that same point I wonder if the rooting/unlock bootloader is anywhere near the same...
[Atrix 4G General] mashi:
Well. I saw the atrix 2 (real phone)	already. It look like samsung phone :-/
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
I have the atrix 2 and lol all them look the same....
[Atrix 4G General] NOMIOMI:
According to gsmarena.com atrix 2 has Dual-core 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 processor, ULP GeForce GPU, Tegra 2 AP20H chipset

here is the full specification of atrix 2 link

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_2-4199.php
[Atrix 4G General] cheetablaze:
They failed on that one.
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Anyone find any cases for this yet? That don't cost an arm and a leg that is.
[Atrix 4G General] NOMIOMI:
so atrix 2 is not powered with Nvidia Tegra 2 chipset????
[Atrix 4G General] dasfiend:
No, it's a TI OMAP 4430 and PowerVR SGX540.
[Atrix 4G General] NOMIOMI:
ooo so sad then i will get photon 4g i think that photon 4g is better then Atrix1
[Atrix 4G General] dasfiend:
Why sad? See up above someone linked a comparison of 4430 vs tegra2. They are very close in performance with the 4430 having an edge when it comes to video decoding.

So far the only thing I don't like about my Atrix 2 is the lack of hacks/roms/etc. (There isn't even a section for it here on xda!)

Also, at least in the US, the Photon is a CDMA/WiMax device while both Atrixes are GSM/HSPA+, what kind of network(s) do they have in Pakistan?
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
The photon is a world phone. I used to have it. Blur turned me completely off! It was way to slow!
[Atrix 4G General] JRW 28:
Has anyone noticed how closely spec wise the atrix2 is compared to the new Droid rzr? Look almost the same but A2 is clocked at 1ghz vs rzr 1.2 ghz? Anyone's thoughts on them maybe being the same with the A2 being underclocked?
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
You forgot the fact that the TI OMAP processor in the Droid RAZR is of the 4460 variety and the one in the Atrix 2 is 4430. HUGE difference in terms of processor innards.

So, no. They are not the same specs.
[Atrix 4G General] newdroidgal:
I have nothing but positives so far with Atrix 2. Granted, I am not a seasoned droid user, but I love the feel of the phone, it is very solid.. and the battery life is fantastic.
[Atrix 4G General] Calundle:
+1

Loving everything about it so far.
[Atrix 4G General] spyz88:
How good is the battery? I'm trying to find out a comparison to AT&T SGS2 battery life. I can't find anything on the web about it.
[Atrix 4G General] jeremyshaw:
Given the GPU clocks are the only difference (in how they are configured - the 4460 is stock configged upto 1.5GHz, though no manuf using it has done so, so far) and the 4430 is 80% the clockrate... Of course, I have no clue if the GPU is overclockable, so the difference could be there, assuming it's even matters given it's positioning means it's only faster than the Tegra 2, lol (other dual core SoC employ faster GPU - even Qualcomm's Adreno 220 should be faster, even if barely).

But of course, performance gain is performance gain, RAZR should be faster in graphics regardless.
[Atrix 4G General] Calundle:
I haven't gotten a chance to really use it for a full day since I've been working. I can say it's impressed me thoroughly so far, though.
[Atrix 4G General] mkoby:
I've been getting around 13 hours with a decent amount of usage.

The first 2 days I attempted to run the battery down to zero, and had to really work to do it. This was while keeping Brightness on Auto. The first day while at 30% I managed to stream 2 YouTube videos (1 hour in length each) and video over netflix, all over wifi before the battery finally gave out at about 3/4s of the way through the show I was watching on Netflix. Next day was a very similar but slightly different experience. instead of YouTube, i did straight netflix and it went almost 2 hours from 30% before the battery finally hit 0 and the phone shut down.

Yesterday, my first day for not trying to run down the battery, I was at 50% by the end of the day with a fair amount of use (no videos though), and that was after 13 hours.

So, needless to say, I've been crazy impressed with the battery life on my Atrix 2. It kicks my previous Captivate's rear on battery life (which I averaged anywhere from 8 to 10 hours before NEEDING a charge).
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Anyone able to get the bootloader unlocked yet? I also agree the battery life is quite nice on this device.
[Atrix 4G General] justdrew:
the extended battery is 50 at att store 2760mah capacity comes with batt door
[Atrix 4G General] marvin02:
According to Motorola it's a TI OMAP443. If you read the article I linked to you will see that both the TI and Tegra are based on the Cortex A9 ARM design.
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
Just read that article, I did not know that the atrix 2 was a world phone. Compatible on both gsm and cdma! Learn something new everyday! Thanks for the read!
[Atrix 4G General] Gadgetz:
I just picked up the A2 from BB for $49.99. Nice upgrade from my X10, can't wait for root though and custom roms!
[Atrix 4G General] djyuran:
Is there any battery test of Atrix 2?

I tried but couldn't find any software on Anroid for battery life testing.

Still waiting for review from anandtech and others...
[Atrix 4G General] sbtim:
Really could use some Atrix 2 forums over here....
[Atrix 4G General] dasfiend:
Please vote for an Atrix 2 forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1301121
[Atrix 4G General] Gadgetz:
I voted for the A2 forum. I hope we can get it so we can get some development going on. I need root!
[Atrix 4G General] :
I heard a lot of bad stuff about Motorola before I decided to get the Atrix. I ignored everything and now I'm stuck with it. The Captivate and the galaxy S2 feel 100 times better than the Atrix and don't give you half of the stupid headaches. Random reboots, locked bootloader, overheating... I will NEVER get another Motorola phone.
[Atrix 4G General] treehumper:
Every situation's different. You might've had a bad Atrix right out of the box, pre- and post-root mine hasn't given me any issues like that unless the voltage was too high and it overheated from that or I undervolted it too much. I've played Playstation games on it for hours and haven't locked it up that way. It gets warm but even my iPhone4 does that when I game on it for a while.
[Atrix 4G General] Azurael:
Agreed. I love my ATRIX. The battery life is fantastic compared to any high end android phone I've encountered (which is pretty important to me) and in fact doubles my Desire with most roms in use or standby. Build quality feels better than the Samsung by far (though the Samsung is a lot stronger than I'd give it credit for. I've never seen an ATRIX dropped.) The only thing that's lame is the camera. The camera on the Desire is better but all mobile phone cameras are a waste of time unless its just a photo of something for reference... Even the SE Arc camera doesn't hold a candle to the most basic compact cam and those are pretty lame. (Camera snob, sorry)
[Atrix 4G General] cushcalc:
Vote for Atrix 2 forum!

I've voted.

Please everyone throw a vote in. Atrix 2 has 41 votes, second on list, so I hope the forum administrators will add Atrix 2 forum soon!

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Even though it is not rooted, can you add Amazon App Store already?
[Atrix 4G General] bigwig001:
Yes, you can add the Amazon App Store out of the box.

I have had this device for about a week now, switched from an HTC Inspire, and I love everything about it. No complaints here.
[Atrix 4G General] cushcalc:
Upgrading from Inspire 4G to Atrix 2

Good to know. I had an Inspire also (which I thought was a fine phone), I'm really looking forward to the increased speed and screen resolution of this phone, and although it has less built-in memory than Matrix original, it is still much more than Inspire had on board!

What is your Android version? Is it 2.3.4 or 2.3.5? Motodev.com says it has 2.3.4 but Motorola website says it is 2.3.5. If it happens to come with 2.3.4 then it could be rooted now, couldn't it?
[Atrix 4G General] dasfiend:
My Atrix 2 came loaded with 2.3.5.
[Atrix 4G General] JRW 28:
Ok after spending half of the evening playing with both my og and atrix2, I can't see where everyone is complaining about. The screen is gorgeous compared to the og and compared to the sg2 is better. I never used the fingerprint scanner anyways. And for $50 this price is hard to beat for someone wanting a phone that is up to the standards of what is out there. Sure you can pay $200 for a phone but n my opinion you can't beat what you get in this phone for the value. It has met and exceeded everything I have thrown at it today! Now if we can just get some development for it

we will be set
[Atrix 4G General] bigdaddy4u:
Sleeper & A Keeper

thought i'd post a lil something because there's so many doubters. First i am not easy to please (Especially when it comes to my toys) & I've had PLENTY of toys and got the credit card bill to prove it ;) & I must say that i am NOT a Motorola Fan (nor i'm I against them), but after buying the Atrix 2 all i can say is that I'm PLEASED. This is the Best Android phone i've owned and SURELY the least expensive (life is funny like that sometimes)

The phone is truly a Sleeper and so far is being slept on by MANY people especially the Atrix 1 owners. All you have to do is try it and you will KNOW it's a KEEPER. I got paid $32 for buying this phone from Bestbuy by selling my HTC Inspire while upgrading and could have gotten the SG2 for $80, but after buying the Samsung Captivate and Samsung's Complete Disregard and Disrespect for customers Knowing they were selling phones with broken GPS - I Promised myself that I would Not EVER/NEVER by from them again - I just couldn't do it and bought the Atrix 2 - it has a Better Screen & resolution IMHO and 8 gigs less memeory and a .2 slower processor for $100 less and have Not looked back.

Almost forgot ZumoCast is Simply Flawless - You can access any file on your pc or mac computer and it's CRAZY EASY to setup....
[Atrix 4G General] alcatel444:
Can't Wait for some Atrix 2 development love

I can't wait to see some love for the amazing atrix 2 , come one developers let's start the invasion of the Atrix 2 World
[Atrix 4G General] mtnlion:
+1 this phone absolutely rocks,but I definitely miss having root.

Sent from my MB865
[Atrix 4G General] sarcasmo:
Question for the Atrix 2 owners:

I currently have a rooted Captivate with a custom ROM. On that ROM I'm able to take advantage of the hotspot feature without paying extra cash to ATT (I occasionally use it when I'm browsing on my wifi tablet).

I've read that you can use the hotspot on the Atrix 2 for no extra $$ as long as you have an ATT data plan that is $39 or more. Is this true or do you have to pay ATT more $$ in order to activate the hotspot capability?

Thanks for your help.
[Atrix 4G General] Gadgetz:
I agree 100%, but there are cases available, I just ordered an Otterbox Commuter for mine. But yeah, this phone is very snappy and the gorilla glass is nice. Ive been tweaking on this thing since I got it Saturday night and havent had to clean the glass yet. It gets fingerprints on it but they dont stick to it very well, which I like. The camera is nice, snaps pics damn near instantly, 1080p video, native panorama, the ability to remove much of the bloatware without being rooted, even allows use of a nice screenshot app without root, im digging it but I really hope it gets ICS and some dev love here.
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Hopefully at&t doesn't screw up this phone getting ics. Either way though I am disappointed that XDA has yet to make a forum for this yet as I have just randomly come across 3 or so other forums that have a dedicates place for this phone. On a plus side note for cases AT&T has more available, although I am waiting for them to come to the open market because of AT&T lovely inflation.
[Atrix 4G General] sbtim:
Can you PM me the links to those other forums?

BTW the Atrix 2 is a great phone. I lost my OG Atrix so I had to buy a new one. $50 at best buy for a phone that uses OMAP 4430, a QHD, NON-PENTILE 4.3 inch display is a DEAL.

Did I mention NO PENTILE DISPLAY?
[Atrix 4G General] JRW 28:
Im also interested in the links to the forums, could you please PM me those also. Thank you!!

Waiting on some A2 love!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] bigdaddy4u:
here's one: http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-2-forum/

and another: https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/google-android/atrix2?view=overview
[Atrix 4G General] andrewpmoore:
Does anyone know whether "LightFlow Lite" or "Led color tester" by coolbeans works with the atrix 2?
[Atrix 4G General] bigdaddy4u:
Yes, It works Great :-)
[Atrix 4G General] andrewpmoore:
Is that Light Flow, or Led Color tester?

I'm the dev of Light Flow and I'm trying to help someone trying to use it. I know it works for pretty much all other Motorola phones, but with the Atrix 2 being so new I've not had much information, but I know she's not been able to get Lightflow or led color tester to work. Both of which I would expect should work fine given the led hardware in the device.
[Atrix 4G General] bigwig001:
Mine also came with 2.3.5
[Atrix 4G General] JRW 28:
Yes lightflow works perfectly on my Atrix2!! I have the paid version but I'm sure the free one will work just as good
[Atrix 4G General] andrewpmoore:
Thanks for the info... And buying the app!
[Atrix 4G General] billyblonco:
Does it matter if the atrix 2 only have single color (red) notification light while the atrix OG has a tri-color notification light?
[Atrix 4G General] JRW 28:
No it does not, I have all the colors working perfectly fine on my Atrix2