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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] atyoung:
At the risk of resurrecting a long dead thread, I'm going to correct you, not in a rude manner I hope.

Boot.img is what your kernel lives in, zImage is the actual kernel.

Side note: I'm surprised that so many here in the ET4G realm use odin to flash their kernels actually. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the supersonic way of doing things. When I drop Mason on you guys ( sooner than you think ) it will be a recovery flash for sure. The idea of tethering ( No I'm not talking about net access here ) to a PC to flash a kernel sends weirdness up my spine, not to mention so many horrible things could happen there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bielinsk:
What other way is safe? I keep reading going from aokp back to say Caulks requires an Odin to a new kennel to do it safely. I would love to just be able to do everything without a computer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Odin has proven one of the safest, easiest methods for people unfamiliar with flashing. When I first started flashing ROMs you couldn't have paid me to try the recovery method. Mind you now I'm an old hand (hah!) at it and use recovery for many things but Odin is still the method I will continue suggest to anyone just starting out or those who are even slightly technically challenged.

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You might want to look into mobile Odin. Not that using cwm is bad but it can be a bit riskier if you are unfamiliar with flashing and which recoveries (GB vs ICS) are safe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] atyoung:
I believe that is the root of the issue right there. After reading a bit it would appear that there is some issues with certain recoveries in regard to the Samsung hardware, which begs the question why use a questionable recovery with ICS kernels at all? There seems to be a staggering number of them, and I'm not sure what improvements one has over another just yet. With all that going on I could see not being very comfortable with recovery flashing.

It's going to take some time to research and figure out exactly whats happening here. I think I still prefer the recovery method, it's just a matter of sticking with a solid recovery, as opposed to pushing forward new ones simply for the sake of a higher version number and features less than 10% actually use.

Differing nandroid formats further confuses the issue. It's all together puzzling, but I guess that's what comes from a different device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] punwik:
I agree with ^^^... I was flashing different ICS recoverys and came close a couple of time to bricking my phone! Its hard to know which recovery is safe to use and I personaly think until we get a proven recovery without any hicups going from GB to ICS, Odin will have to be used!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rigel1326:
Great to see atyoung here. Big fan from the Evo supersonic. I'm also use to doing all my flashes from the amon ra recovery on the Evo so this is just a slight change. I really like the development community here. Very sharp cool set.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ScubaSteev:
Why don't you just get mobile Odin.

I know it wont be as fast as cwm but its faster then laptop isn't it?

sent from my foot in your a*s
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Custodian:
What a buncha crying hoes....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
So fare quit a few people looked into ICS kernel and recoveries and the problem is not recovery itself. Pretty much none of them.

Problem is in stock kernel and without source it can't be fixed. Or can it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] okantomi:
Yes, I think sfhub has some good answers for that question in the emmc corruption thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
This is useful for sure. I've made a few flashable zips myself by taking another flashable kernel zip and then use 7zip to swap out the zimage. Most of the time though I use Mobile Odin and flash kernel tar or just the zimage itself. Fast, easy, and no pc required.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
Very good service from ultimate-mobiles.co.uk, ordered yesterday and didn't expect it to be here when I got home. :)

Here's some pics I took. Gonna fit it in the car shortly. I like the way the legs come down and recess again if you don't want them there. And I like the white release button on the back. Also, the side clamps aren't big,ugly and obtrusive like many others. A very cool little black and white vent holder which I trust to hold the phone more than many others I checked out.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
Good to see noone gives a **** about a decent SGS2 accessory, lol.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Cosmic Blue:
You just posted it today. Do not be impatient.

You have already had 80 views, not everyone has to leave a comment.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
Awesome, 80 views.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Coedy:
Lol aww bless.

Don't go all huffy mate...

Personally I don't like how it looks. But it defiantely looks strong enough to keep the phone safe. Also good to know that company has good service, spotted a few things I fancy.

But I don't like how it looks, I'm sticking with my exogear.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Rodrigo Vilhena:
Where did you bought it? It look very nice!

How much it cost?

Tks.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] rob77:
Looks really nice buddy, I'm thinking of ordering the vent mounted one too. At the moment I have a suction cup one that I used to use with my nexus s. The problem is the galaxy s2 is thinner than the nexus so my mount doesn't quite hold it so sturdily. These look ideal, any chance of pics with it installed so I can see what it looks like? Cheers
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
Sure, here it is, I took these pics today, here's a little gallery.

http://imgur.com/a/Y6H4N

Rodrigo, it's from ultimate-mobiles.co.uk

I forgot to do pics in landscape mode. So yea, there's a knob on the back which loosens off and then tightens so you can rotate to landscape mode.

I've tested with some emergency brake stops, and the phone feels very solid in the holder, not shaking itself out. Also, you can adjust the vertical and horizontal angles so you can get the phone facing exactly where you want to the millimetre.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] xirokx:
small world I live in Whetstone, lol
[Galaxy S II Accessories] weymouthstan:
I got the suction cup version of this after I realised the magnet in my magnetic mount was screwing with the compass!

It's been serving me well for six months. I don't use the foldy out feet - it grips well enough without them.

WS
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
Wow, yeah, small world indeed! :D
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
Got a blue case now :cool:
[Galaxy S II Accessories] dannysheimy:
How much it cost? look nice
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Roman5:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260854651...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648#ht_2817wt_1163

http://www.ultimate-mobiles.co.uk/m...g-galaxy-s2/car-kits/air-vent-mount___645.htm
[Galaxy S II Accessories] djwilliams100:
Ive just ordered one, been looking online for a decent one and i think you may have just found it, thanks.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] lawlow:
oo..looks pretty sweet. maybe i'll get one, but i need to get a car first :D
[General Topics] bringonblink:
First come first serve
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sent

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[General Topics] jasspreet:
thanks:)
[General Topics] slimno19:
Can u send me one?

justin.aandrews@gmail.com
[General Topics] Frodo1910:
Where can I see if I have invitations?
[General Topics] bringonblink:
and last one gone
[General Topics] bongd:
If anyone else has one, could they please send it to me? bongdw(@)gmail.com. I hooked up a ton of folks with Google + invites :)
[General Topics] bleach168:
Sent. I have three more.
[General Topics] MEG4LOM4NI4C:
i Have three left myself if anyone is interested. no reason for me to hoard em. lemme know...
[General Topics] rahilkalim:
can you send me one rahilkalim@gmail.com
[General Topics] russ18uk:
One to russ_17uk@hotmail.com would be awesome :cool:
[General Topics] Little812:
Can I get in on the action? jlittle812(@)gmail.com
[General Topics] ranklepup:
May I have one?

muhs.theiinocent[@]gmail.com
[General Topics] poopymt3g:
Sent out a few to the last people to post. If you still need one let me know. I have 5 left.
[General Topics] MEG4LOM4NI4C:
commin at ya!
[General Topics] kedai:
Me? Ckedai @gmail.com
[General Topics] MEG4LOM4NI4C:
hey its only available to the states right now. thats what it tells me when i send em so unless your sure u can get it to work from the UK ..... didnt wanna waste one if your not able, sorry.:(

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gotcha! only one left....

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and there ya go! last one. Use it well!
[HTC Sensation] rafiqc:
Hi all

My wife (iPhone 4 user :p) mailed me this link today and I must say I'm shocked ... it seems, in some respects, even the iPhone 3GS walks all over the Sensation ... how is this possible?

http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-4s...-as-galaxy-s-ii-and-all-other-android-phones/
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
gpu in snapdragon soc's will never be as good as the SGX gpu in Apple phones.

even the Samsung Mali GPU is faster then Adreno 250.

Sadly HTC is Snapdragon only so unless Qualcomm improve it a lot HTC phones will always lag behind in benchmarks but benchmarks are not everything.
[HTC Sensation] moshe22:
One more thing that should be taken in consideration is that Apple designs their hardware and software which means it is optimized for dual-cores.

When we get Ice Cream Sandwich is when we will get real dual-core support and be able to use the full power of our phones.
[HTC Sensation] rafiqc:
Just ran these benchmarks myself and it looks a lot better than they make it seem, sure I'm an update up from their benchmark Sensation, but technically iOS 5 is newer than Android 2.3 anywayso it's negligible.I would like to see how Ice Cream Sandwich will compare to the 4GS (iOS 5).

Sunspider - 3532

Browsermark - 56065
[HTC Sensation] shafez:
In iPhone it is used in games only but generaly the IOS is very boaring, Android is much better.
[HTC Sensation] IGstarr:
o_O the nexus one is faster than the sensation :eek:
[HTC Sensation] Joshhedge:
Personally, I don't think its that the GPU is bad, it should be better than the mali400 by quite a bit in theory ( look at the Qualocomm reference board @1.5GHz, beats everything by a nice margin ) It's just that the kernel and driver software is ****.
[HTC Sensation] drms12:
My scores are:

SunSpider - 2444 ms

Browsermark - 7900

Don't believe this stock using benchmark. I'm sure that SGS2 can do better as well.
[HTC Sensation] M pro:
Just ran the tests and got

Sunspider 1844 opera

Browsermark 43865 opera, and using the standered browser 71114

Not really a good test as its browser inflorescenced.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Come on guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know Apple is best at MARKETING!!!!!

1) APPLE IPHONE 4S PROPAGANDA, that can be seen on many website for a few days

2) THE REALITY, my HTC Sensation running ARHD 3.6.2 with bricked kernel , at 1.72 ghz (my max is 1.78)

with CPU1 forced online, I hit about 60000 at stock 1.2ghz CPU speed

Some will say i've always hated Apple's marketing, already fighting Apple fanboys in early 2009 with my Samsung Omnia i900 and FpseCE...

....well...that's true :rolleyes:

EDIT: same config, I do 2664 at Sunspider, so just behind the iphone 4S, and GLbenchmark refuses to compute my score, saying my GL drivers are modified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preventing people who use custom ROMS, kernels or drivers is an easy way to win! (I mean, I was not cheating using Chainfire3D drivers to reduce textures or anything!)

Apple sucks!
[HTC Sensation] vitusdoom:
thats the problem, all these benchmarks doesn't support what our devices (beast) has. so, it always end up like that. but, mind you. on sensation, it has the 2.3.3 version :P and with that and all the crap on stock, its really gonna be slow :P
[HTC Sensation] Ndokami:
Here what I got on my stock sensation these results are definately bias for the iPhone release =\ I mean I'm sure its a impressive piece of hardware but I doubt its that much better than other phones out on the market now
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Lol, there's no way the PowerVR SGX535 is faster than the Adreno 220. It's just iOS is way more optimized than Gingerbread + Sense 3.0 ...

The Snapdragon S4 SoCs should blow everything away when they come out, though.
[HTC Sensation] nory82688:
Cm7 alpha8 tiamat OCd @ 1.83ghz
[HTC Sensation] vszulc:
You can't compare an overclocked phone running god knows which kernel (It's easy to cheat by optimizing the kernel for specific benchmarks) with a stock phone running at stock speeds. That doesn't make any sense.

It's like trying to prove that Toyota is faster than a Lexus by strapping a jet engine on to the Toyota: Unfair, irrelevant and proves nothing: Except that a Toyota with a jetengine strapped on to it iis faster than a Lexus...

So yeah, the iPhone 4S does beat whatever HTC has out by a significant margin even. I have an Evo3D and a SGSII and it is pretty annoying that the HTC is so poorly optimized. Time for HTC to lock some engineers in a basement, and not let them out until they modified Sense to be as fast as iOS...
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Of course we can! That's why we have an Android and not an iphone: we can customize and improve it as far as we can, that's the point here.

But even with a stock ROM, bloatwares removed, at 1.2ghz, we reach 60000 at browsermark, so Apple is clearly posting fake figures here.

Don't wait for HTC to solve your problems man, go for a custom ROM and a custom kernel, the Sensation has good hardware inside, you should try using it decently.

PS: my kernel is Bricked kernel from Show-p, you can't say it's "god knows which kernel"
[HTC Sensation] nunyabiz:
Wouldnt screen size make a difference as well?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
I've read an article about s2 and 4s benches. Basically, sw runs differently, Android does something vertically as well, when iphone doesn't, so you could double Android point to actually show the true value. I'll try to dig that article.
[HTC Sensation] Ndokami:
I agree with this. That's why I did my test completely stock. And didn't remove bloatwear or anything and still got significantly better scores than what they posted.
[HTC Sensation] RussianBear:
lol that's some awesome "comparisons" you've provided there. was anyone talking about putting a new cpu/gpu in their phone? lmao if anything, you could've said a car that was tuned (software) vs a car that wasn't.... gtfo
[HTC Sensation] 052:
Guys, sorry for polluting your thread but I put my MIUI SGS2 to the test and this came out

Even underclocked to 800 mhz I managed to get over 65000 points so their tests are pretty much bull****

PS overclocked to 1.6
[HTC Sensation] rafiqc:
Just loaded Android Revolution HD ROM (with all it's tweaks and boosts :D) and tested again ..

Sunspider - 2532

Browsermark - 76720

Much better, but the i is still kicking my butt ... lets hold thumbs for Android 4 :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] foxmeister:
I've yet to see a phone benchmark translate into anything of real world interest or use.

According to benchmarks, my SGS II is quite a bit faster than my Sensation, but I don't notice this at all in actual usage, and in general prefer my Sensation over my SGS II.

My wife has an iPhone 4 and I find it to be a nice bit of kit, but exceedingly annoying, and I'm certain I'd feel no different about the iPhone 4S.

Regards,

Dave
[HTC Sensation] Ndokami:
i just looked at the chart again and my sensations scores out did the GSII

now i believe that the did little to no research and jest posted random scores :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] yourpassenger:
Anyone that judges a phone based on benchmarks is kinda dumb. My phone is soooo fast and runs every game flawlessly, including some of the graphically intense ones from gameloft etc

It was fast before I rooted and flashed but now it's insanely fast.

Sent from my brain
[HTC Sensation] casperi:
I have just have to post after reading all of this.

1) why do you guy even care? It's an IPhone for crack sake.

It's got to be Apples marketing leaking into heads or something.

"If don't have an IPhone you can't do whatever"

So be glad you don't have an iPhone and their crack monkey benchmarks

Because you are an Android.

1)You can flash custom kernels

2) You can flash custom ROMs in ever degree that personalizes that Android device to you , and you alone.

3) We have a massive dev community here. Some of the dev/chefs stay up 18 hours at time to bring us their next best thing.

It surly isn't.to get rich but to enrich the Android community. You will never find that at Apple ever. They would rather just sue you instead and call it there's.

I could go on and but do I really need.to ?

So

If you dont have an iphone you can't "post yours".
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
The old iPhone vs EVERYTHING problem. If your concerned your phone doesn't BENCH as high as the 4S, then go get a 4S. If you love your Android and could care less that some website says the 4S is faster than anything in existence then welcome to Android!

My wife has a 3GS (just loaded iOS 5 on it today) and while I'm messing with it I get excited to see something new (in iOS 5) but within a minute or 2 I'm board and off to xda to see what I can flash today. New Theme? New Kernel? New Mod? New ROM? Answer to all is usually yes on almost a daily bases.

What can an crapple user flash today? iOS 5? Wait, they already did that,,,,hmmm,,,,nothing I guess. Just download another overpriced app/game from the app store I guess...
[HTC Sensation] s10shane:
ISO 5 supports duel core cpu's vs gingerbread which doesnt. wait till we get a hold of ICS and then compare the scores. thats why apple is loving that its on top cause pretty soon when ICS hits they will be out of the number 1 slot lol.

Apple=Fail!

Android=FTW!
[HTC Sensation] Catnap:
1900.6ms in Sunspider with Opera.

Hence why I use Opera.
[HTC Sensation] Gillion:
Benchmarking will always and forever be a controversial.
[HTC Sensation] L8 APEKS:
So...you don't think Apple's developers realize that the majority of the ignorant public will look at these benchmarks and mistakenly think they "prove" that the iPhone is "better" than another phone? And in turn, you don't think

they, too, are OPTIMIZING THE IPHONE to get higher benchmark scores

even though they don't necessarily translate to better real world performance? Duh. Think about it. :rolleyes:

Ok then. So ask yourself - which matters to you? Buying the more expensive car that you can't really modify at all just to follow all the other sheeple or because you're a sucker to their marketing? Or buying the less expensive car with huge aftermarket offerings and blowing the doors off several more expensive or more popular cars for less money, and having the freedom to customize it the way you want?

Personally, I drive a Volvo station wagon that dyno'd @ 327whp/369wtq and I smoke STI's and EVO's...so you know which one I'd choose. ;)

(850 Turbo wagon, T3/T4E .63, 3" turbo back, E85 tune @ 20psi...automatic trans!)

In the car world, you're the noob at the track telling people your stock STI would smoke anything...because it's popular and it's trendy. Then I turn a 12 second ET against you in an automatic wagon and make you look silly.

Benchmarks are not everything.

PS, another big negative for the iPhone/iPod = iTunes. omfg that software is utter garbage and the way it takes over your system you'd think it was a joint venture between Mussolini and Hitler. ;)
[HTC Sensation] lianw:
Lots of rationalization going on in this thread.

Also lol @ attacking AnandTech, which is probably one of the most respected and trusted websites for benchmarks and reviews.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
If you really think Gameloft games are the most graphically intense possible, you are a real noob :D

Gameloft games run fluently on a single core HD2 or DHD

Try to run Tegra2 games using Chainfire 3D drivers, or try to run PSX or N64 games, these ones are graphically intense, and here you'll see the difference between a Sensation and a single core like the HD2

Sure, Gameloft games are nice, I play them too, but they were already full speed on my single core previous devices with custom ROMS.

Gameloft are NOT the most heavy games available!

Nevermind, at least one thing is sure here: Apple is telling lies, as usual, even at 1.2ghz, the Sensation is about 20000+ at browsermark than what apple is repporting in their fake graphics.....and iphone fans are so dumb they'll believe without searching if it's true or not......

Don't be mistaken, in 2009, when I started to record on youtube videos of PSX games going faster on a Windows Mobile than on an Apple 3GS, I was insulted hundred times by Apple fans, saying my videos were fake, saying it was impossible to defeat iphone, blahblahblah. I've been hating these stupid people since these days when they were ready to burn me for proving their baby was not the best in one field...
[HTC Sensation] L8 APEKS:
Hehe...yeah, not to mention, being the "best" doesn't really mean anything since (a) it's a relative term depending on what a person uses the device for, and (b) technology moves so quickly that "best" only lasts a couple of months and then it becomes "outdated." :p
[HTC Sensation] Dj_ReX:
I don't understand the people who buys phones looking at benchmark scores.

This logic should be changed.

"Iphone vs Others" is like "Intel vs AMD". Although AMD is much better in many cases among the same class motherboards, Intel makes it giving much better values in Benchmark scores. Test it man ! Do real tests , not benchmarking !
[HTC Sensation] rafiqc:
Being a blind follower of anything, be it HTC, Apple, Android or whatever, is really foolish. Everything\everyone have their good points and only through comparison can we find these points and improve.
[HTC Sensation] anarchyuk:
not sure how the benchmark was ran and how much android ICS will help but my sunspider results dont suffer the same fate

ps: browsermark result 71879 this is on android 2.3.7 btw

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never heard such pap on a screen as what you have wrote...
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Well, before the arrival of our asynchronous dual core, benchmarks have always been kinda trusted. At least, their scores have always increased proportionally to the power of the devices (I mean each new generation of CPU was killing the previous one in benchmark scores, scores improved proportionnally to the overclocking etc)

Then the Sensation came out.....fast UI using our both cores, but slow benchmarks (and 3D!!!!) because most of the time our second core was OFF, or just not used by apps.

And so people started to say benchmarks are **** because they have fast UI whatever the very low bench scores of the Sensation and the not-so-huge 3D perf.

Nevermind, today we can force CPU1 and have huge scores too.

Hey man, as for me, I don't understand people buying a dual-core with a GPU but who don't care of raw performance :D

Why didn't they buy a blackberry if they just have a professional use? Because they love the design of the case? lol Let them go for the Sensation XL, single core but nice too, sure it will have lower bench scores ^^

Don't see any offense, I'm just trying to say that we can use the same phone differently and appreciate it differently. I need my phone to deliver the biggest CPU power possible, and here, the highest CPU power I have, the higher benchmark scores I have too.

And the most important point here: Apple is clearly telling lies, fake figures, trusting bench or not is not the point here.