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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
Forgot to mention in my previous post, but another area where Android is better than the iphone 4s is in the notification area. The iphone's notification pulldown is smooth and sleek but it's too much hidden in the background. With Android, you get an icon at the status bar reminding you/notifying you that you have a reminder. Whereas with the iphone it's no icon, that reminds you at all after the intial alert comes through.

Another issue the Epic Touch has that the Iphone doesn't is that the Epic Touch lags when you wake it up from sleep.

And for everyone saying the iphone's screen is better than the epic touch screen, is crazy. The Epic Touch / Galaxy S II line of phones have the best screens at the current moment, hands down.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Overclocking kills your battery. Who cares. I'm more interested in conserving battery. This isn't a ****ing car. You don't go next to someone and run side by side speed tests, do you? No. Who gives a ****.

And I have owned 3 previous Android phones before this one. All rooted and themed. So don't come in with "Android can, iOS can't" crap. Its just a phone. And for people who don't want LOS or other problems, the iPhone might be good for them.

I love Android and my GSII, but I'm seriously thinking about switching over.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Because this thread says "iPhone 4S vs Epic 4G Touch". What do you mean his opinion doesn't count? Seriously. You call him trolling?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Ok, I agree, Samsung has the biggest screens with the brightest colors. But, the resolution is terrible. 480x800 is way too small for this size. Yeah, font legibility is great, but when you zoom in on a picture, the phone is so pixelated it is disgusting. Their screen allows you to see every minor detail, no matter his far zoomed in you are. Hopefully Samsung decides to put higher resolutions on their next phones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
Yeah, thats true. In the end, it's up to that particular person to get what they want. both phones are great. I personally got the iphone because I wanted to try something different. I've owned EVERY android phone on Sprint and none of them let me down. And personally, I'm happy with my decision. My iphone does does everything I need it to do.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
As far as getting used to a smaller screen, do you text any different? Do you find it harder or easier to hit the keys? When I was in the Apple store messing around, I hit a lot faster and more accurate, but that could've been pure luck lol. Have you noticed any better signal since your switch? Having dual antennas on Sprint is probably a good move lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
Hahahhaha if u wanna conserve battery we android can do what we called undervolt or underclock like ur iphone4s was already underclocked to 800mhz from the factory.being android user each and everyone can do that. I chose android cause I wanted more than lot more than iphone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
I find it easier to text. I am able to type very fast and it is accurate. As far as the signal, it's very good, strong or however you want to look at it :D

I haven't dropped under 4 bars since I got the phone. The call reception is VERY clear. I haven't had not one dropped call and the call connects within seconds.

In addition, I know when I had my Epic Touch, I was using Smart Keyboard from the market. That was very accurate for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
I think iphones have been smoother in the past but the ET4g real makes things neck and neck in the smooth relm. Do you want iOS or android with desert coming later ( iCS ). Big gorgious screen or a small crystle clear screen. As far as screens go the guy who said when you zoom into a picture a ton looks more pixelated on Et4g and not iphone.... really? Do your "super zoom" on any phone with any pic and its going to look like crap haha. On that note. Besides the guy who zooms in pics to far I think every one had great points. Theres no better phone. Only what the user wants. Be happy there happy with with the amazing piece of tech they purchased. Either way your stoked
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
You made some good points. However, one thing that you mentioned really caught my eye. And that was when you mentioned, "android with desert coming later ( iCS )" With that said, Samsung is the WORST when it comes to timely updates. Look at the Epic 4G. Sure they put out some good phones, but they're horrible when it comes to updating them. It was already a leaked picture/article of the Samsung Galaxy S III. I don't remember where i read it or saw it so please don't ask. But I did see it. Point of the matter is that Samsung does a horrible job when it comes to updating. I'm sure at some point in time The Epic Touch will be updated to ICS but when?

When you get an Iphone, you know you're guranteed with updates for awhile. And all iphones get them the same day the update gets released.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
People need to get over the Epic 4G and it's updates. That is one phone out of how many they make. Can you please prove the theory that Samsung does not update there phones other then the Epic 4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
That's all the reason I need. For teh ones that did get updated, it took a very long time. Thus the meaning timely updates.

I'm not dissing the phone itself. It's just that Samsung doesn't have a very strong reputation on updating their phones. You can say what you want but they don't.

HTC and Motorola are leaps ahead of them in that department. You would think that Samsung and Sprint wouldve been then put an outdate out by now for the LOS issue but they haven't.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boneman1:
Same thing happened with the Samsung Moment. Samsung is horrible about getting updates out for their phones. I have the Epic 4G now and I'm trying to decide what to get next. I've been with Sprint forever and they're almost always late to the game getting new phones. I was hoping the Nexus Prime would show up before the end of the year, but all the rumors say only Verizon initially. I'll probably go with the E4GT, but not because I believe ICS will be there any time soon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Wow it sure blew up when I said ICS. All I ment is my phones amazing now and down the line some it will get a bit better. I don't really care when because its great now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kalel_293:
i've been waiting for the gs2 for the longest time...i was sure about getting it as an upgrade...but now with all the los, i just dont know...iphone sounds good, but i havent played with one yet...i've never had an iphone and this (epic 4g) is my first android phone...if the iphone came out with a 4" display then i would definitely jump on it....i really dont like itunes tho, and display might be a little small...also i might get bored with it quickly...with android, u can flash every night...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
I agree with you. The Epic Touch is a great phone now. In fact, the first one I had I rooted it and started having the LOS issues. I was able to exchange it and I never rooted that one. I really didn't find a need to because it's already fast and the battery life is good too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
1. I've already stated that I am trying to conserve, so I don't know where you are going with that, still.

2. Not everyone can do that, because only 2% of people actually take the time to root their phones.

3. I don't even own an iPhone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Yeah, I type faster on smaller screens, I guess I am just more precise, giving me less room to miss. And I also have a problem when typing on my GSII. When I am flying on the keyboard, sometimes my phone makes double letters. Example: "Sometimes itt ddoes thiss." I don't know if I am too fast for it, or what, but having it happen 50% of the time is quite annoying. But that is really my only grudge. iOS5 seems to be a good upgrade. Kind of more "Androidey" lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
Great post!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
I know what u said when u undervolt and underclock u will get twice battery life apple underclocked 4s to 800mhz for longer battery.

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9months old phone desteoyed latest and greatest from iphone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Idk about Los, I restored to complete stock a few days ago I had several Los when rooted never since unrooted, I just did the cwm 5 and stock kernel (thanks Chris) and su zip. No issues yet either. I wonder if savaged zen will have Los. as a kernel dev I dont think LOS kernel related either way ( I see reports but never logcats/dmesg which makes the source of the problem inconclusive)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Where did u get 9 months from? I thought the gs2 came out in may for most markets
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slinky88:
I was tempted to get an iphone4s because i have never owned an iphone before. But since my previous phone was a galaxy s vibrant, and before that was a g1 im kind of in love with android. I like how much more control we have over android when compared to iphones. In the end i couldn't do it and had to go with the epic 4g touch. liking it so far.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
So what is their battery life compared to ours? Because if I tell someone I get 20-24hrs, I get laughed at. Kinda weird when you can get more than that. I've never had an Android (any smartphone) last more than that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
To save you some time with kernel testing, I flashed Lostkernel (newest release) via Odin. I haven't gotten LOS, and I have CWM. I tried all of then for a week straight and think I got good battery and a recovery. Lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
[/QUOTE]I've been with Sprint forever and they're almost always late to the game getting new phones. [/QUOTE]

Are you kidding? Sprint has been top notch when it comes to android phones. The Prime will be the exception to that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
I've been with Sprint forever and they're almost always late to the game getting new phones. [/QUOTE]

Behold the EVO 4g.

This was a first in a lot of categories.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ms79723:
I know some people that can pull that...really depends on the person. but those iPhones...smh, of course they are gonna have great battery life. They always add a new processor that is more efficient and underclock it which helps a lot (I mean sht, the first iPhone...wasn't that clocked at 600MHz? They can afford to underclock a 1.2GHz processor down to 800MHz to save battery. We can do that with our phones but other phones won't be able to do that because you'll start to see how slow that sht really is). iOS doesn't hog up sht when compared to Android and they don't really use multitasking, they use that fast app switching stuff that WP7 uses. On my iPad, I can't just go to the browser and maintain 3 different tabs. As soon as I switch from one tab to another one, it cancels the other one and when I go back I have to reload the page -.-.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
So that is really the only reason they have better battery? Because of app management? Why doesn't android go to this instead? I'd rather have that honestly. What is the point of all this crap using CPU if you're not even in the app? I mean, most of my family has the iPhone now, and they can get 2-3 days of moderate use. I'm always about to die when I go over there, and they automatically assume I got an Android lol. I'm not sure if I should stay with Android, or go to a different platform.

I love all of Android. But I just don't have the time anymore (being a student and working my ass off), to deal with this. And I will most likely have an Apple or Blackberry server that I need to run off of soon.

Pretty sad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gedster314:
I have both. I prefer the E4GT for everday usage. I could not care less for SIRI, in couple of months it will be on the 4 and the Ipad. The only thing I like the Iphone 4s for is the Camera and video stabilization. I like the picture quality of 4 over the 4S.

If you are geek and like constantly tinker with your phone, buy Android. If you want something you don't have to think about, buy apple.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] IA-32e:
iPhone 4S is 3G only and locked down tighter than a virgin at Sunday Mass.

Epic Touch is 4G and open wider than a hoodrat on prom night.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SirWise23:
OMG... It's freaking insane!!! I am really really hating my iPhone having friends now. They keep calling me up saying how the iPhone kicks my phone's ass now because they can do things like talk their texts and back up their contacts without plugging in to iTunes...

Oh you mean... you can FINALLY do some of the things that Android has been doing since day one? Idiots. I'm not an iPhone hater at all... In fact, I bought one for my mom... who is almost 60, because I know she wouldn't be able to figure out the Android as well (She already has an iPad). The iPhone is not garbage, it's a good phone with a solid app store... but iPhone users are annoying when they don't say that the iPhone is SOOOO much better than android for not other reason than saying "But it's an iPhone" to every comparison. Stupid fan boys. I hate uneducated comparisons.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
+1. There is no reason to bash another platform. People buy it. I just came back from Florida a few days ago, and maybe 15 people just sitting by me had an iPhone, iPad, or Mac. I felt weird pulling my mini tablet out infront of everyone lol.

But seriously, if you NEED stability and don't mind not having new features, just get an iPhone. The development community here is insane and you really need to keep up if you want top notch. I just can't do it anymore, so I might sell this bad boy. :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
I've never even seen the light of 4g, and I live 45 minutes south of Detroit (worst place for 4g). So I am pretty used to getting screwed.

Plus, the phones out right now support WiMax, Sprint will be getting LTE, so that means any of us that bought this phone, will not have 4G until we upgrade to a new device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] IA-32e:
So Sprint told you that there was 4G coverage in your area and then you found out they lied to you? No? Then you knew and bought their service anyways. I don't call that getting screwed. If 4G is super important, once your contract is up there's always Verizon.

The ET4G will be practically obsolete by the time Sprint finishes the upgrade to LTE so I'm not too concerned.

As for iOS being locked down. I jailbroke and unlocked (T-Mobile) an iPhone 3G for a friend of mine. I have experience with phones so I knew I could do it with some reading\time. It just reinforced what I already knew; Apple take the term "control freak" to a whole other level. Working with it was the most unpleasent experience I've ever had.

If you're looking for an out of the box solution then the iPhone is great. If you want to customize your device and try to get the most out of the hardware then Android works.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
lol'ing at the iSheep in this thread.

Transmission sent from a Galaxy S II with XDA Premium.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Dude, calm down. I said that I am used to getting screwed with 4G. They didn't tell me anything. I knew, and I still bought this phone. And I don't feel like going to Verizon and being limited to their service.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Anyone lookig for a Siri type experience on Android, check out the 2 below apps....

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.speaktoit.assistant&feature=search_result

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bulletproof.voicerec.intern&feature=search_result
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] geolemon:
You could argue that I'm biased, I'm a long-time Android user and wouldn't want to be shackled into a closed and expensive ecosystem like iOS...

But I have been running a legacy phone for over three years now, waiting for a phone to show up that would be worth signing a 2 year contract on, and there is a LOT of objective (not biased or subjective) logic that goes into that decision:

(PS - with iPhone 5 overdue now, by most fanboys, and 4S being a slightly warmed over iPhone 4, I wouldn't argue that the 4S is a 2-year-contract-worthy phone)

I bought a GSII, after literally years of waiting for a phone I wouldn't feel too bad being on contract for.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
this is a never ending thread...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
Even the 8months old camera on sg2 is better than 4s.

I thought only advantage 4s has id camera not anymore.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/241955-2/smartphone_camera_battle_iphone_4s_vs_the_android_elite.html
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g4me0v3r:
http://www.smartkeitai.com/drop-test-apple-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video/

function > fashion
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
This video was hilarious.

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skykc0401:
I bought 3 epic touch about 2weeks ago 2 phones from same place and other one from different place. No LOS, no lag nor freaking typing delay on 3 of the phones. I'm not going to comment on iPhone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Heelfan71:
why would anyone who owns an iPhone be in this forum to begin with ? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Akradroid:
Uh super amoled plus please?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] geolemon:
Honestly - thanks, but no thanks. No, seriously.

The display in this model is stunning as-is, and is a standard high-res resolution.

Browse through the market and see all the comments for "I've got a Droid Bionic, and this app doesn't render right"... "I've got a Driod Bionic here, and the app doesn't fill the screen..." etc.

I haven't been hurting for resolution - it's only a 4.5" screen... and that's HUGE in smartphone terms.

I'd rather have my phone function on anything in the world I choose to download, rather than needing to download special apps that are odd-resolution compatible for my only-phone-on-the-market screen.

I like what I've got, it's the best of both worlds. Stunning and compatible.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pskillz87:
Man you ain't lying, nobody cares if you got an iphone and what's so funny is that when a newer more powerful android device come out they're going to jump ship. I love this phone and plan on keeping it for 2 years or maybe more until they fully harness the dual core processors and all the apps catch up with the technology.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ravizzle:
Go to android market and download iris (siri backwards) it is alpha but pretty good. She has way more attitude

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Take it in and have it checked.... update profile and prl see what happens
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
1. Don't use a task killer. That kills your battery even more. Your apps are focused on RAM, which is just space (gets cleared out anyways). When you use CPU, it is shooting up your MHz. When you run the task killer, it is constantly jumping up your CPU.

You need to root, and get a new kernel. I just had a discussion with an iPhone4S user, and they were on their phone for 5 hours, 13 hours standby, and still had 28% left. But, The iPhone is underclocked to 800mhz. It is using fast task switching, rather than using complete multitasking (Android = better here).

The display on the new iPhone is a 3.5" screen. That is one of the main reasons the phone lasts for so long. (Bigger display = less battery), but I can manage having less battery life, for a giant screen that I can text, play games, and browse the internet without having my nose up to the screen.

You need to get a custom ROM with a custom kernel, and underclock your CPU MV.

You can make it just as good, if not better, than an iPhone.

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
It sounds like Sprint signal sucks in your area and/or your phone is defective.

The battery life is a red-herring. All Sprint phones including iPhone will have horrendous battery life if the phone is always searching for signal. This is because CDMA uses a lot more power when searching than when idle with strong signal.

In normal average signal situations, the E4GT has excellent battery life. This is not to say you couldn't get bad battery life by installing background apps, having task killers fighting with background apps, etc. Those wouldn't be normal conditions.

Now the cause of your bad signal could either be Sprint or your phone. You need to compare to another Sprint phone, not to another carrier's phone. The best signal strength on Sprint is Motorola Photon. E4GT is not as good as Photon with signal strength, but it isn't very poor either (unless defective) It is about average. It tends to drop 5db if you wrap your hand around the bottom of the phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] geolemon:
Yeah, you don't NEED to get a custom kernel or ROM.

Hell, I've been running Cyanogen custom ROMs for 3 years across two older Android phones, and I'm going to leave mine as-is at least until Ice Cream Sandwich rolls out to our phones.

I would suggest you root it, though, so you can take advantage of tethering, without having to pay for tethering fees.

The battery life thing is something to be concerned about. If you are constantly roaming, searching for signal, that's bad news.

If you've ever gone in an airplane flight and forgotten to turn your phone off, you know exactly what happens - when you land, 4 hours later, you have a visible exclaimation mark over your head, shocked at how you lost half your battery life.

That's not an issue with the phone - I suspect ANY Sprint phone would do that, in your area.

In fact for battery life, it beats my previous phones - including my Blackberry Pearl - by quite a bit. It's definitely iPhone good... and I've posted in the battery life thread a few times.

You can set wifi up to disconnect when your screen powers off, that fixed my issue fundamentally...

It's also possible you've got a rogue app doing it's own thing. I tried a couple games in the marketplace over the past few years that had good ratings, but didn't shut down, and their running in the background (anything that runs in the background for that matter) really eats battery.

Check out that thread, there may be some clues, if nothing else some help on how to monitor it and troubleshoot it.

But you may be right - (although i'll restate, likely not the PHONE) - your switch to Sprint may be killing you, if you are roaming all the time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
You're funny. I could get only 12hours out of my phone before root/undervolt/custom kernel/ custom ROM. :)

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Heelfan71:
if the iPhone is so awesome, why are they browsing this forum? :eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
I think people are just looking for answers. Maybe they are looking to get this phone, and want to know the ups and downs before doing so. Me, I didn't know what I wanted. But when I heard you have to pay for data storage (past 5gb), no SD card support, no tether, small ass screen, I knew this would be it.

So when people say they are getting an iPhone, well, you are just getting an iPhone. A boring, tiny, fragile phone. If iPhone has that against android then BYE BYE! :P

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
It is kind of nice to have an iPhone 4S available. You can buy for around $250-$285 after taxes/upgrade fee, sell it for around $650-$700, and use the money to get your E4GT for free.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Blitz117:
Wa aaaaaaay to funny and accurate.

Sent from Epic 4g touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ericlikeseatin:
both phones are great: they will allow you to stay in touch with your friends and the internet. as smartphones, you can't go wrong with either church.

i had the choice of an iphone or the epic 4g touch last month and i went with the android phone because of its larger screen size, 4G speed (i have 4G where i live), and because i have not really liked iOS on my ipod touch.

i'd suggest you go to a store, try out both, and see which you like more.