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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atirage:
..that is the question :)

I just bought a brand new Nexus S (cheaply compared to other phones of this caliber), and I'm really loving the the speed, stock Gingerbread and basically everything about it.

This is my first Android phone, but previously I used a Nook Color (rooted it myself) with CM7 so I'm also familiar with Cyanogen team's work.

I have been using it only for a few days and considering to root it, but here's what's stopping me:

- Google's ICS update (any estimates when it will hit the Nexus S?)

- warranty (any way to save to stock ROM and return it if I need to send the phone?

- bricking?

So I'm asking you guys who are using your Nexus S' for awhile:

- are there any special options in the CM7 for the Nexus S?

- what specific features are in CM7 that are missing from stock Gingerbread?

- which kernels do you guys suggest (with what major features)?

Regarding rooting and warranty:

- can I somehow unroot my Nexus S later on, when the ICS OTA update is available

- possibility of bricking? How high is it? I'm never had to do some ADB stuff so far, so as I see this won't be exactly just a walk in the park...

I know I bombed this post with questions but basically all I want to know from you guys: is it worth rooting, what are the advantages of rooting (beside the obvious one - having a root access for some apps that needs it) and most importantly what is "fixed" and tweaked in various kernels for the Nexus S?

Thanks in advance,

Atila
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krohnjw:
If you only unlock, flash CWM and flash the SU binary you will have root access and OTAs will still work fine.

Unlike the Nexus One unlocking the boot loader on the Nexus S does not automatically void the warranty. The language has changed to *may* void the warranty.

To save the stock rom, install CWM and make a nandroid backup. Flash that back, reboot and let install-recovery.sh restore the stock recovery and you're back in stock business.

- Restore nandroid to go back to stock, fastboot oem lock to relock the boot loader

- Possibility of bricking is insanely low. Essentially don't pull the battery during a radio flash (if you are updating the radio) and don't flash a CDMA radio to your GSM device. Other than that it's going to be near impossible to really brick it (in the sense that you can't recover it using recovery or fastboot).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anishs:
quick question how can you still receive OTAs after installing CWR because you essentially replaced the recovery, I was told that once you mod the recovery OTAs won't work. When 2.3.6 was launched I never received it until I went back to stock completely. Please help
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krohnjw:
You were told incorrectly. I've flashed plenty of OTA's over CWM on both the Nexus One and the Nexus S. There is no assert done on the recovery in the OTA update script, it merely erases it and flashes a full recovery image over it.

Receiving the OTA has NOTHING to do with the status of your system (rooted, not rooted, custom recovery, locked/unlocked). Your device periodically checks to see if there are updates, if your IMEI / ESN is flagged for an update and you are running a previous build (based on build fingerprint) you'll get the notification to download the OTA.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anishs:
oh wow alright thanks a lot!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atirage:
@anishs: OTA update is basically downloading an update.zip which the stock recovery later flashes into the stock rom.

When rooted, you will probably have to tell CWM to flash the update.zip you just received from Google via OTA.

Please correct me if I'm wrong (@krohnjw).

@krohmjw: Thanks a lot for your answers, cleared up bunch of things for me, most of all the fear from bricking.

So could you please tell me some improvements done in CM7 compared the stock rom? (I didn't follow it's development and now I wouldn't know where/how to search for this.)

And the same question regarding the kernels available on XDA - do they improve speed or battery life or anything in particular you'd highlight as a new/better feature?

And regarding kernels: is a stock ROM + custom kernel (flashed by CWM) possible?

Thanks in advance,

Atila

PS: You said you also have a Nexus One, do you remember how long it received the Gingerbread update (and how was that done) after they started rolling out the Nexus S in December last year?

Was the community faster with the update then el Goog? :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rentaric:
I wouldn't rely on the word "may" in regards to warranty. They'll argue and say "just unlocking won't void warranty, but further actions that require an unlocked bootloader will".
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krohnjw:
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. I sent in an unlocked Nexus One that was damaged in a car accident - repaired under warranty for no charge. If it's a clear hardware defect you're fine, if you burn our your LED or toast your speaker then they may give you grief.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krohnjw:
Correct

It's really difficult to "brick" in the traditional sense.

I don't use CM7 or any non standard kernel any longer - too many stability issues early on and stock AOSP runs fine. Someone else will need to chime in here.

Yes - this will modify the boot partition though, so OTAs that assert boot to patch it will fail.

The OTA didn't come out until last Feb if memory serves correctly. AOSP Gingerbread roms were being built for the Nexus One in December though.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atirage:
Thank you again for all your answers :)

Can somebody explain to me what are the improvements in CM7 and a stable kernel over the stock ones?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atirage:
Which rom and kernel combo is super stable for everyday use and have some major improvements/features compared to the stock rom?

Anyone can make some good points to root the phone?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] al_madd:
A lot..just read at nexus S development..

If you want to safe..

flash CM 7.1/brainmaster MIUI/Formel MIUI/Pete Alfonso/Oxygen 2.3

kernel matrix V8, TEUV,TUV stable
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borrowedchief:
I am personally holding out till ICS is released.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atirage:
My conclusion...

After several days of research, that's the conclusion I got too.

It's all nice what I can do with a rooted device and an unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand the unrooted device is also very customizable and powerful.

The stock rom/kernel works fast and stable, so why risk it?

And the faster ICS official update (earlier then on any other device) is the main reason I bought this phone...

PS. Although I think we won't see an official ICS OTA update before 2-3 months after it's premier (which is next week). Most probably the XDA developers will make an ICS rom much, much sooner and we gonna end up unlocking/rooting our devices anyways. :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stkiswr:
Delete please
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] satti8893:
Hi guys...

Some body tell me which HD games works in our ace?

and....

Which is the best app to download online videos from any website?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] QNBT:
search the forum, there is a thread were some ppl listed these games. Dont know anything about the new HD games though
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] satti8893:
Wat abt downloading online videos?

Do u have any idea? :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] basse10000:
Hi.

Last night I was trying to flash CWM recovery via Odin. The screen suddenly showed following message: "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies and try again".

Kies will not recognize my phone. I cant boot to recovery mode (was running android recovery before this). The only thing I can do with it is boot to download mode. Odin still finds the phone.

Even when I connect the charger above message displays.

Any master who has a clue?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Bad flash

Flash stock rom via Odin.

Fails its a service centre job

Custom rom counter above zero = no warranty likewise rooted kernel .

Reset rom counter to zero with USB jig flash stock rom to remove root .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brahmy:
OP, if you're a beginner (like me), check out the boot loop thread that is stickied in this subforum - it has all the steps you need to do laid out in order: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1108499
[Motorola Droid 3] cyclonmaster:
Anyone can suggest anything?
[Motorola Droid 3] MrJudylicious:
Ive been running MONSTERrom 1.1 since it came out. Looks very nice and runs very fast. 1.1i is the latest and greatest at the moment, but he releases new versions all the time (which is absolutely ok with me)
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
+1 This is exactly my view as well.
[Motorola Droid 3] nednarb:
ditto ditto. really like this rom. best part is not only how well the dark theme is done, but the fact that you don't feel like your running a rom. it is solid, fast and stable.
[Motorola Droid 3] Benjamin150:
Agreeing with everyone else on Monster Rom. Awesome rom to fulfill my needs until we get some CM7 and MIUI.
[Motorola Droid 3] 05gsxrk5:
Monster Rom 1.1i i would never run that junk...

but Monster Rom 1.1j on the other hand works for me.
[Motorola Droid 3] kern417:
lol i thought it would be longer before we saw one of these threads.
[Motorola Droid 3] The Solutor:
Best rom, for now, is the XT883 one.
[Motorola Droid 3] Benjamin150:
Not all themes seem to be compatible with it. So, I'd have to disagree if it limits customizing.
[Motorola Droid 3] The Solutor:
Who cares about themes, first we need a functional rom, then we can start to thing to customization.

And the XT883 rom is way more functional, although affected by the lack of a functional bootstrap loader.
[Motorola Droid 3] Benjamin150:
Considering most people seem to be adding themes? Plenty of people care about themes. Not to mention I haven't seen any problems with SD or MR yet. I will say your ROM is very good if you're looking to keep the Rom stock, and it is very sleek. Plus I seem to have more Ram available on MR versus the other two.

But most people that flash Rom's, also want it to be customizable.. that's why ROMs like Cyanogen and MIUI are so popular, even though they're not always completely stable.

I say it comes down to personal preference in this case.
[Motorola Droid 3] cyclonmaster:
Ok, so there is only two custom rom availabe atm for Droid 3?

Monster Rom v1.1j

Details changes is here:

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-3-roms/176253-monster-rom-v1-1-a.html

This Custom Rom is more on theme added FM Radio function etc.

Another Custom Rom is XT883. Can't find any info on this rom. Don't now the changes. Any link?
[Motorola Droid 3] Benjamin150:
Three Roms. Steel Droid.
[Motorola Droid 3] flycken:
Running Monster Rom 1.1j with Jewremy Mod v5, finding it to be a smooth run
[Motorola Droid 3] cyclonmaster:
Found it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1098483

Looks good. What is the latest Android Base of Custom Rom for Droid 3? Is it only based on 2.3.5. Is there any higher to 2.3.7?
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
Steel Droid is a great choice if you like Blur. It was just as fast as Monster and equally debloated.

The only reason I did not stick with Steel was the font. It was driving my eyes crazy. I have since jumped to Monster and so far I am very happy.
[Motorola Droid 3] nikeusfr:
+1 the rom is really functional with no default, no bug.....
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
Themes are a big deal, they give the visual illusion of an upgrade and on a fast rom it just feels good.

Voting for Monster but will probably move to narcotICS.
[Motorola Droid 3] Bobbar:
Font Installer
[Motorola Droid 3] cyclonmaster:
Let's say Ice Cream Sandwich out, do you think D3 will have USB Host capabilities? I think I read it somewhere that Motorola Droid had USB OTG hardware inside.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bboyuno:
Hello there Vibrant users,

I was just wondering if any1 know how to setup an unlocked vibrant with at&t $10 data plan. I bought my phone already unlocked and root. When i insert my sim card, it's says i have 3g network and data was up and running when i don't have a data plan yet. I just recently added the $10 data plan on my phone but don't know if i am using it. It already have at&t settings already before i got the phone and does MMS share the same thing or seperate. Can any1 help?

Thanks.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zmattmanz:
Once you add a data plan to your account that's pretty much it. Are you saying it isn't connecting?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bboyuno:
Oh I see. It is connecting but I was just wondering the part when i got the phone without the data plan yet, the 3g was up running already before i got the $10 data plan that's all. Oh yeah what about the MMS? Do I have to do something about that too or it'll just use the data plan to get it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tulan017:
I have had a Vibrant unlocked and rooted for several months now and currently using the At&t $10 (non-smartphone) unlimited data plan. This does work and I haven't had to pay those ridiculous prices for data since my Torch.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darkakuma:
The 3G will always be up and running because ATT wants to make money from you even if you dont have a data plan. I'm actually thinking of switching to the HTC Incredible S just because it has the other data frequency. Not sure how much of a difference it would make though.
[Xperia Arc General] centi50:
hello,

As per http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/09/26/new-gingerbread-software-available-in-nordic-countries/#more-3743 unlocked bootloaders will also be able to update to 2.3.4.

Can we take it to mean now SE will allow phones with unlocked bootloaders to update via OTA or SEUS! Good News i think.
[Xperia Arc General] kiz1983:
I can only see unlocked phones, not unlocked boot loaders...
[Xperia Arc General] centi50:
Kiz1983 Thx for pointing it out guess i was carried away of having phones with Unlock BL able to update. You mean locked Phones= Sim locked phones or wat?

If yes you mean sim locked phones dont update via OTA or SEUS. I never had Sim Locked phones so i dont know

somebody might help me understand
[Xperia Arc General] SXUsr:
26th September 2011.17:10 Even a blind monkey that can't read could understand. ;):p It's telling you about 2.3.4, what most of us have been using for almost a month.
[Xperia Arc General] Kifsito:
Someone plz edit this thread title cuz is totally misleading
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
So nothing new, right?
[Xperia Arc General] SXUsr:
Correct.....
[HTC EVO 3D] o0adam0o:
I'd like to connect my Evo 3D via composite cable. Can it be done? If so could you point me to a cable?
[HTC EVO 3D] 6666:
www.google.com/m?q=hdmi+to+composite+converter&client=ms-opera-mobile-android&channel=new
[HTC EVO 3D] stanglifemike:
Any reason you don't just use a MHL adapter? That's what is intended to be used on these phones, in case you were unaware. T-Mobile has them for just over $20 and they work awesome! Fully mirrors what ever is on your phones screen in portrait and landscape
[HTC EVO 3D] splinter182:
does not work

yes, i've tried to plug my phone into my cars 6.5 inch touchscreen deck via a 4 pole patch cable. the phone thinks that you plugged in a stereo headset with a mic. my guess is the phone doesnt have a composite output or you need a specific trigger to switch the mic output to composite output like we used to do on the touch pro 2.
[HTC EVO 3D] anth75:
did you ever find a cable that will work??? i want to do the same but can't seem to find a cable. thanks
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dunngh:
Can someone provide me with a working screencast method for the Atrix (on CM7)? I have not found any apps other than "screencast video recorder" in the Market, and that doesn't work. Shootme was taken off the Market, but it didn't work anyway. I tried Droid@Screen, but it said device connected and didn't show or do anything. Is there a method that works through USB, root, anything? I have a mac, but I have access to a Windows PC if necessary.

Thanks in Advance.

Edit: I also tried DDMS which says screen not available. I tried on both Windows and Mac.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fleurdelisxliv:
what about andross in the market https://market.android.com/details?id=net.tedstein.AndroSS&feature=search_result
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
I got the following blur accounts configured.

- Linked In

- Facebook

- YouTube

- Picasa

- Corporate Sync

- Google

- Twitter

The problem is that when the contacts are synced from the above account, I cannot go to settings of the contact list like "display option" menu. It force closes on me. I have monitored the logcat then i found out that something in android.os.Async has array out of bound index.

I have tried having only one account i.e. Corporate Sync it works fine. Then I add Google account, nothing happens. As soon as I add any of the social network accounts the contacts got force closing. One thing to note that in the list i cannot open those contacts which have some social network contact associated plus the social network contacts itself?

I have tested the same with some custom ROMs floating on the forum plus the stock SBF. But strangely older version 4.1.83 works fine.

Any clues?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghost_og:
Did you install the new Google+ app that was leaked? I know some people were having FC issues with their contacts after installing it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phalanx7621:
Most likely would get more responses in the Q&A section.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
No that is not the case.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
Please move this thread to Q&A section.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kennethpenn:
This is not a development thread. Please use the correct forums.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IUH1991:
woah, ur a mod now? that's crazy!

keep up the good work!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
So no clues?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theintelligent:
For those of you who are interested below is the error

10-14 15:10:36.479 12395 12608 W ResourceType: getEntry failing because entryIndex 223 is beyond type entryCount 199
10-14 15:10:36.479 12395 12608 W ResourceType: Failure getting entry for 0x7f0200df (t=1 e=223) in package 0 (error -2147483647)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 W dalvikvm: threadid=12: thread exiting with uncaught exception (group=0x40018560)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: FATAL EXCEPTION: AsyncTask #1
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: java.lang.RuntimeException: An error occured while executing doInBackground()
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at android.os.AsyncTask$3.done(AsyncTask.java:200)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerSetException(FutureTask.java:274)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.setException(FutureTask.java:125)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:308)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1088)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:581)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1019)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Top level element must be ContactsSource
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.model.ExternalSource.inflate(ExternalSource.java:133)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.model.ExternalSource.inflate(ExternalSource.java:104)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.model.ContactsSource.ensureInflated(ContactsSource.java:98)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.model.Sources.getInflatedSource(Sources.java:341)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.model.Sources.getAccounts(Sources.java:286)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.ui.ContactsPreferencesActivity$QueryGroupsTask.doInBackground(ContactsPreferencesActivity.java:348)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.ui.ContactsPreferencesActivity$QueryGroupsTask.doInBackground(ContactsPreferencesActivity.java:333)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at com.android.contacts.util.WeakAsyncTask.doInBackground(WeakAsyncTask.java:45)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at android.os.AsyncTask$2.call(AsyncTask.java:185)
10-14 15:10:36.489 12395 12608 E AndroidRuntime: at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:306)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bingo6104:
I just got my hands on the dinc. I am coming from a rooted D1. Unforuntulny the dinc has been updated and has s-on..

even searched for s-on Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. I love it lol...

Anyways, if i have read correctly if s-on is enabled, I am just SOL in rooting my phone and using custom roms,themes etc till someone finds a workaround , correct?

Also all my game and app data on my d1, anyway to move it over to the dinc?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marcismo55:
Updated to GB 2.3.4 and S-On? If so, I found THIS thread a few days ago that seems to be working. Before you do any of that..make sure your SD card is formatted to FAT32.

Apps yes...you can move those over to your Inc. Data would not be a good idea. The data is from a totally different phone so you would cause a lot of issues by doing restoring any app data. My friend who moved on to an Inc from a DX tried to do it and got FC's all over the place.

Good luck and enjoy your new phone!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bingo6104:
Thanks for the link, everything i found was s-off only..

As for backing up info,example, all my game progress will be lost? what would be the process to do this? Guessing the phone would need to be rooted?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
I looked that over and it looked like it should get you back to s-off, rooted froyo. It's a LOT like the method jcase developed for the Tbolt before Revolutionary. If you can get s-off, you're good to go. Flash a custom recovery and flash a rooted ROM. Should be that simple.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bingo6104:
thanks for the info!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmason68:
Yeah, that thread works.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bingo6104:
Thanks again guys, i got it to work last night.. Now i just need to decide on a rom? Any suggestions? I loved chevyNo1 on D1 :/
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petecraig612:
Your going to love the incredible compared to the og droid, everything is so much snappier, and battery life will increase too.

I'm not a sense guy at all but McD's ROMS are super nice.

I really liked chevy's ROMs too. CM7.1 stable and the latest incredikernel on 10/12 by Tiny will get you started in the right direction if you want to stick with AOSP or if you want something more barebones grab IncDeck 1.3 Final... I just went back to CM7.1 because I felt I got a little better batterylife.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bingo6104:
Will give them a try. I did download cm7.1 and on re boot after install it gets stuck on the boot loader. Do I need to do a complete wipe or something ?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PGleo86:
Yeah, complete wipe is recommended if you're not coming from an earlier CM7.