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[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Paralysis of analysis, dude.

You know which one you want, but you probably keep reading the posts here, and in the SGS2 forum, and websites, and they're making you second guess yourself.

You know what you want, pull the trigger (figuratively) already!

You have 14 days to return it if you need to.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ben200451:
Is that 14 days return thing for all carriers? Because I'm going to get it with Telus.
[HTC Amaze 4G] k87:
The SGS2 has major screen issues with the lines and blobs.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ime5000:
a couple reasons i chose, the camera functions for one you get pnoramic, and night shot and stuff which ive messe around with and all work pretty good, so hapy with that part. the build of the actual phone, its heavy, im a big guy and i need something that doesnt feel like a child toy. reputation with the htc, 1st phone i had was G1, then the G2, now the amaze, i liked to stay with the company ive been using. also htc says they will be upgrading to ICS early '12 hoepfully they stick with that, at the time i got it, samsung wasnt really saying anything, then i heard the galaxy tab wouldnt get ics till later in the year seems liek they might be holding off, not sure. anyways, thats what i got hoep it helps some!
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Not sure how that works in Canada.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ben200451:
Man it sorta stinks up here. It still says on the website "coming soon" yet the instore people don't know when there getting it neither does the costumer support on the phone and I cant find it anywhere on the internet. The guy from costumer support said he "assumes" it will be released tomorrow because some other phones are coming out then:confused:
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Well, look at the bright side, by the time you get yours hopefully there'll already be root and S-OFF.

I know that's not really helping. I suffer from "shut up and take my money" addiction as well. LOL
[HTC Amaze 4G] ben200451:
Haha. Im excited to get my hands on it. I haven't really worked with an android phone before, I'm new to this stuff. I'm excited to root my first phone and start working with it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Lokks:
I am in the same boat patiently waiting to get this phone on Telus....Unfortunately htc just twitted it will be out in 3 Weeks
[HTC Amaze 4G] ben200451:
Oh my god you have to be kidding me, 3 fricken weeks? Do you have a link?
[HTC Amaze 4G] k87:
Take it as a blessing. The nexus prime is going to be announced on the 19th. So you guys will have time to decide weather to go with the prime or the amaze 4g.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ben200451:
The problem is I'm using a ****ty of shine plus with the screen completely cracked all over from top to bottom and my fingers are bleeding from it. I need to get a new one soon.
[HTC Amaze 4G] k87:
If the cell phone is going to come in 3 weeks anyway. And if you are going to wait for it to come out, then you'll definitely find out what the prime is all about. It will be announced in 6 days. The only thing that might be a factor is the release date. When they decide to release it to the people.

Also, of course if you carrier is going to get it or not.

Your call buddy.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ben200451:
I hate choices. But 3 weeks seems unlikely. Every other carrier is getting it now and I looked all over and saw no tweet. Maybe I'll just go with the GS2.. Oh wait telus doesn't have that yet either
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
I just started working there. So it's a little different. I could get both. But that's unnecessary.
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Blah, blah, blah...

Man up and get a phone!

**** or get off the pot!

Barbecue or mildew!

LOL!

I'm just fooling around, peer pressure is a *****, isn't it? :-)
[HTC Amaze 4G] vinnyjr:
I always like trying the new and improved phones. I had the T-Mobile SGS2 yesterday for about 5 hours, I sent it packing back to T-Mobile. I had WIFI issues from the first hour set up. Kept loosing connection with my wifi that was about 10 feet away. I have a collection of phones and not one ever had or has a wifi issue. That alone was a kick in the butt, the screen was beautiful I thought, No sd card is a joke, no big deal, the GPS worked great, not being able to use Google talk is joke. I thought the SGS2 worked great, had a feel of quality when you went thru the software but that wifi issue just didn't sit right, the overall size and feel was a little clumbsy. So I finally went with the Amaze in black, HTC always makes great hardware, same specs as the SGS2, I think the Amaze will be a hackers dream phone camera is the best, it just feels so great in your hand. Being a long time NExus one owner and still have it today, both AT&T and T-Mobile models I can say that HTC makes great hardware. Tha Amaze has one great screen wifi is very powerfull, stayed with a very strong connection while I walked around my yard. Sorry for the rant, I thought the Amaze was an all around a better phone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Lokks:
There you go

https://twitter.com/#!/HTCCanada
[HTC Amaze 4G] seanp666:
Personally I'd go with the Amaze just because of looks and build quality. I have the original galaxy S. While i'm happy with the performance, I've never been in love with the looks, weight, or feel of my phone. I'm looking forward to owning a phone that I absolutely love the looks and feel of. I like to know i'm holding something premium.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Lucas155:
Someone got it right on the first page. =) I went into the Tmobile store tonight and compared both phones. The Amaze screen did look very sharp, but the large, vibrant screen of the GS2 won me over. That, and the lighter weight and reported great battery life. I would have rooted either phone, so the whole 'touchwiz vs sense' is kinda a moot point.

I think whichever phone you choose you'll be happy with as they're both great devices as far as I can tell. Now, if I could get free tethering to work like it did on my G2, I'd be sittin pretty.
[HTC Amaze 4G] demize!:
I'm going for The Amaze. Solely based on industrial design there is no comparison. While the Sammy is thin it feels cheaper. I have Vibrant and Amaze seemed to way a ton but it felt solid, more aesthetically pleasing, white n chrome, has a large battery. Capacity and Sense was flawless. So uhm yeah.

Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MRpeabodyia:
I had read that the GS2 would support ATT bands. If this is true is anyone taking that into consideration? I'm a little worried about spending 230$+ for a phone that may not be supported post merger.
[HTC Amaze 4G] scottslc:
Amaze, better camera software.
[HTC Amaze 4G] maybeI'm:
I really want to get the amaze - lots of reasons why, but I'm really apprehensive of the battery life on it. I am definitely seeing some bad reports...
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
You'll probably be eligible for another phone by the time they go through with it. These things don't just happen over night. They may even let you out of contract to completely switch over. If they're nice enough, you may even be able to opt out.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gaww:
There is chatter here that the Amaze does also - just need it confirmed.

The reviews on battery life did not sound good, but actual usage will determine it.

Was surprised about the much lower quadrent scores versus the SGS2, but will be interested to see how it runs with CM7 versus bloated Sense.
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
AMaze because all I buy is HTC phones... They were the 1st to introduce the Android OS to us so I stick with the pioneers of Android....
[HTC Amaze 4G] rickdmer:
Yep, that was me. And guess what phone I am using now, hahaha.
[HTC Amaze 4G] OuncE718:
I honestly used to only buy HTC phones, but the Vibrant and Nexus S left me open minded. I must say that after owning the Sensation I did not see a reason to upgrade to the Amaze simply because of overheating issues and signal issues that I was facing and I figured that the Amaze would be no different from the Sensation and judging by the post I read I see that my prediction is accurate.

I really think the Sensation and Amaze are having signal issues because of the metal body of the phone. The metal cover has the antenna built in. You ever tried holding your hand on a radio antenna and see how the sound quality changes? HTC might have to switch this design if they want to get rid of the death grip issue. THIS IS NOT A RANT! I love HTC design/build quality over any other phone manufacturer.

I definitely recommend the Galaxy S2 over the Amaze. Yes the GS2 has its share of problems also, but its nothing as major as what Amaze 4g users are facing. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT A RANT!
[HTC Amaze 4G] atoore:
I'm really enjoying my sgs2 so far. Best phone I ever owned. Had to post it lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] Enzopreme:
they arent merging... gov't stepped in cause att would then hold a gsm monopoly.

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and as far as those quadrant scores go... today i played with a gs2 straight out of the box, and its HIGHEST score was a 2450, while my amaze pulls 2800 regularly. if it was the same as the other gs2's (exynos & mali), i mighta bought it, but its not, and the hardware it holds now isnt enough to sway me away from HTC, especially considering the internals are basically the same as the sensation just clocked higher. at least the Amaze holds a different chipset, it has the APQ8060, while the sensation and the gs2 have the MSM8260 & 8660.. i think the only difference in the chipsets is the msm holds modem functions while the APQ does not, but that just leaves the APQ with that much more open processing power... sounds good to me!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] KillaHurtz:
1. I agree my friend & I have had HTC since the G1 and only HTC. I was very skeptical to take on a Samsung...anything lol. I personally used to talk crap about how Samsung phones felt like they came from a vending machine and what not.

2. The Sensation for me was plagued with problems from unboxing for me and almost all owners. HTCs locked bootloader & promise to unlock with warranty removal included was a big punch in the balls too. Additionally HTC ignored all the problems and just released several variants instead. I seriously jumped on the opportunity to ditch my Sensation for this phone & i'm glad I did. HTC has dropped the ball for a lot of it's loyal customers. I'm one of em.

3. The SGSII is the fastest thing I have ever seen. True they share the same chipset as the Amaze and Sensation family. The difference in performance is staggering coming from the Sensation however, and cannot be ignored. HTC has been out of touch with optimizing it's own overlay for quite some time, having it's best devices being in vanilla offerings (G1, N1, G2).

The quality of the SGSII is by far......AMAZEing lol. Premium headphones compared to HTCs latest offerings in terms of comfort, sound and style.

Huge battery, awesome camera, call quality/volume.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Enzopreme:
actually the amaze didnt come with headphones, and although i use skull candy myself, i though for a top shelf phone with a top shelf price tag the least they couldve done was thrown in some headphones or something... lmao
[HTC Amaze 4G] OuncE718:
Lets be fair. HTC could not throw in headphones because of the materials (metal, qhd display and their new camera technology) they used. Something had to be cut back for them to make a profit. Just like Samsung use plastic material and lower resolution so that us GS2 users can have headphones and Super Amoled+ technology on such a large screen (4.52 inches).
[HTC Amaze 4G] jre1981:
BTW. I bought SGSII and it was pretty impressive. Incredibly smooth and responsive and a little faster than my Amaze. I simply could not live with the resolution. Anything full screen pixelated pretty bad and I watch a lot of video on my phone because I have Sling loaded receiver, the res on Amaze is much better. FYI kept SGSII for three days and if were not for the res would have kept it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] OuncE718:
Yeah, its all up to what you look for in a phone. I look past the resolution on the GS2 for a number of reasons. With that being said the Amaze is a gorgeous phone, it just does not fit my needs. I am happy with my purchase and we now have the source code from Samsung so roms will be available. I AM NOT A TROLL!
[HTC Amaze 4G] flexte:
deciding factors for me were better build and look and led notification.
[HTC Amaze 4G] tritran18518:
So how is the battery life on HTC Amaze ? I read 2 posts from Engaget ( HTC amaze review & iphone 4s,...SG2,Amze,N8's camera comparison ), and see they complained badly about HTC Amaze's battery.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheHeffNerr:
It got better for me. Hour of netflix on the bus using 4g, a little bit of gaming 15-20 minutes, few phone calls about 30 minutes worth, took some pictures. On battery for 12 hours about 25-30% battery left.

Screen 50% 2g is on unless I needed 4g (netflix, Facebook uploads)

I've been draining my battery fully this will be its 6th or 7th full drain to charge tonight. I still might pick up a 1900 battery as this was a lower use day for me
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
I'm still heavily leaning towards the Amaze. While I'm at work, I keep comparing the 2. Yes... the resolution of the SGSII is not up to par with the Amaze. The SGSII is blurry around edges. Even when I tested the same HD videos. Much more clarity with the Amaze.

I also tried loading up 2 forums I frequent. I was sure to hit the enter at the same time for both. Amaze loaded partial and the whole site seconds faster than the SGSII. With all the complaints about the lines, I'm towards the Amaze. I have a couple more days to decide before ordering.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kenvan19:
That's an issue for me. If I buy a 4G phone I want to be around to use 4G on it and not to have to switch to 2g for battery life.

Sent from my Nexus S MV from the XDA Premium app.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xManMythLegend:
Played with both today the Amaze screen is definitely sharper and nicer overall.

The blue hue in Samsung phones still bugs me.

Amaze is friggin heavy and thick though. SGS2 is extremely light and thin.

Too bad the Galaxy Nexus likely wont be on Tmo in the states. Hope amaze gets unlocked and permarooted soon. The dev community is miles behind the SGS2 despite its potential.
[HTC Amaze 4G] OuncE718:
The Galaxy Nexus will definitely make it to T-Mobile. We always been the first, now its time for Verizon to get a chance.
[HTC Amaze 4G] flexte:
if this phone feels heavy maybe you need to hit the gym. the Samsung felt too light and cheap this phone feels like its solid and built better.
[HTC Amaze 4G] scmurphy13:
I'm gonna be exchanging my SGS2 for an Amaze this afternoon. The Samsung doesn't feel cheap at all. It's light and very sturdy, I just like the heft of HTC devices better. I also miss the qHd display. I had a Sensation and really enjoyed the resolution.

Now, should I go for the white or black Amaze? I'm leaning towards the black one, although they both look great.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bladerunner0427:
Amen brother! I am not going to buy another Samsung phone. I bought the Vibrant only because there was no other phone at the time and I wanted to move up from my G1. The Amaze rocks! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] Turboboxer:
I got the white and was really worried about it getting dirty or scratched. It is going on 2 weeks with no case and it is still perfect. White is the only choice for me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] marstodd:
recording audio differences

The Amaze is great and has stereo mics but I have not heard decent audio fidelity from it yet, through recording in the device's microphones.

The S2 has great recording fidelity but I think it's Mono, one on top, one below.

So I cannot decide. That's very important to me. Maybe some SW processing on the Amaze could fix the bad microphone sound!!!!!!! (an update) but I don't know.

HTC is not very communicative and they have so many other phones I get lost trying to follow the amaze. Samsung's S2 promotional communications are good.

so in a deadlock.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Turboboxer:
I will be the vote to break the deadlock. Get the Amaze!
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
AMAZE ......Period
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
Not tryin flaming but this is the amaze thread so a good 97% of the people here choose the amaze lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] Turboboxer:
So, did you go through with it?
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
Ordered mine yesterday. Should be here by Monday if it shipped when they say it did.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Turboboxer:
AWESOME! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
is that the new HTC phone the Awesome... we have seen the sensation.. now the Amaze... HTC Awesome will be out by 3Q of 2012.... :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] smatthew45:
thank you sir, i think u've finally erased all doubt in my mind that i ever had about choosing the amaze over the sg2, htc ftw!!!!! lol :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] tq745:
my screen looks nothing like that...in fact it is perfect. with that said not every phone is created equal. there will be some that are defects, i mean a lot of people are having problems with the sensation having wifi issues and getting dust under the screen. no matter what the best phone is whatever phone you think is best because everyone will be biased to the phone which is in their pocket currently.
[HTC Amaze 4G] menacke:
I agree I had the vibrant before my htc and I just sold the vibrant this week. I had major problems with the operating system and it always lagged. I had to restart the phone many times because it froze and the support was horrible. Rooted the phone and had more problems with it after I did that and got a bad impression for Samsung. Well going against my better judgement I bought the sgs2 before my amaze and had it a total of two days before returning it on the third day after launch. I automaticaly noticed all of the same lag and unresponsive keyboard from my vibrant and they had the nerve to call it an.upgrade. if it wasn't for the bigger screen I don't think I would have even double guessed myself because my original thought was to buy the htc amaze. I loved my vibrant and had a great time over a year but htc kicks samsungs ass over and over again. Your best bet is to go ahead and buy this phone

Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
how about a amaze 4g with touchwiz on it lol

i might port it once i get done with miui :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheSneakerWhore:
You do that and we will lynch you.
[HTC Amaze 4G] marleyfan61:
I'd rather see the sgs2 with Sense.

I'm still on the fence between these two phones. Each seems to have its strenghs and weaknesses. Main thing holding me back from the Amaze is the poor battery performance.
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
get the Amaze and buy a extra battery from ebay ( Anker For sensation ) and you wont have battery problems ... BTW it also helps if you install Juice defender Ultimate ( Paid Version ) you will regret the SGS2... I've played with it and I for see problems with that device..

beside it has no sense ....( Pun intended )
[HTC Amaze 4G] OuncE718:
Why should you buy an extra battery and install juice defender for a phone's battery to last longer? What problems do you foresee with the Galaxy S II? Please explain.
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
most of the complains I've seen here are battery draining too fast. well I have a stock battery and a anker battery.. both last me all day and night with juice defender it helps. the sgs2 is nice phone but I'm not a fan of the touch wiz and not a big fan of any of the samsung phones.. if you go to the sgs2 forum you can read all the negative reports ppl are having already about that phone. I have friends with the sgs, sgs2 they all went with the Amaze after playing with mine..
[HTC Amaze 4G] OuncE718:
I'm not going to lie. I used to be pro HTC all the way until the Sensation left a sour taste in my mouth. All phones have its share of issues. The question is which issues can you deal with/can not tolerate.
[HTC Amaze 4G] vw671:
I can totally understand the ones with SGS phones, but the ones with SG2 phones can you tell us what was the main reasons why they switched? I'm curious becuase I'm thinking about going the other direction.
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
It was mostly because the screen resolution. And after playing with Sense 3.0 and showing them how it works they were sold. HTC watch was another feature one liked a lot. but they did all agreed that the amaze felt like a well made phone not cheap and plastic like.
[HTC Amaze 4G] marstodd:
the phones are too new to have absolutes about because htc can fix bugs in the sw. (samsung can fix bugs too) for example htc has already fixed overheating problems with an update.

htc has more beautiful screen but it is smaller a little, is somewhat slower than gs2. But videos are probably better on htc. htc has better camera. htc has bad audio recording to it's videos or voice recorder, but has stereo. their 1080p videos are better they have zoom. lots of trade-offs here. depends on what you want. gs2 has better audio recording fidelity but is mono. (as far as i can tell maybe that can be fixed with an update)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nikolaev13:
After reading this thread I decided to get HTC-Amaze-4G, but i want my phone to have same specs as on this site http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Amaze-4G_id5894

any ideas where I could buy it?
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
Mine comes tomorrow. Once I get it, I'm gonna finger bang it all day.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nikolaev13:
Is this a good deal? https://negrielectronics.com/htc-amaze-4g-t-mobile-unlocked-black.html

It looks like it will work with AT&T 3G.
[HTC Amaze 4G] chrischoi:
I don't trust that one bit. Just find one locally or go to your local T-Mobile store.
[HTC Amaze 4G] iGoOsE76:
yeah I don't think you should order that from that site... just go to tmobile and buy it directly from them...
[HTC Amaze 4G] sportsinger75:
I had gotten the GSII and had it for about a week or so but ended up getting the Amaze due to the fact that I really missed Sense and HTCs build quality. I liked the speed of the GSII, but it didn't seem as "classy" to me (if that makes sense). It was kind of cheap feeling to me and the WVGA resolution wasn't really the greatest. The screen was gorgeous, but the WVGA resolution kinda ruined it's glory. I love the Amaze and I'm happy with the decision I made.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheSneakerWhore:
Build quality is 50% of my decision. The other 50% was grabbed by how smooth sense was compared to tw 4
[HTC Amaze 4G] nenol:
I'll chip in to this. I tried a SGS2 with an exynos chipset for about 2 weeks. My first impression was Stock > Sense > TW, but of course this is subjective. Specifically though, I find the HTC mail client much easier to use, the soft buttons less obtrusive, the "globe" style homescreens better than the "flat earth" unconnected right-to-left scrolling, the keyboard, and the quick-launch lockscreen buttons. General performance was solid, but not mind blowing. WiFi connectivity was downright terrible, I sometimes had only one bar within 15 feet of the antenna. I won't speak to network speeds, as I used a different network than normal and don't know how it compares.

I got the amaze on tmo and have been satisfied. The camera is absolutely better than the Samsung. The phone feels more solid, and I won't have to wonder about the build. The screen has less contrast than the Samsung, but the higher resolution is a fair trade off. I was able to max out my home internet connection on Speedtest, something the Samsung didn't approach (although with a different chipset, so perhaps not fair). While it's apparent that Samsung worked to resolve their GPS woes, it wasn't as quick to find me as the amaze is.

I prefer the Amaze, but I wouldn't have been upset to have the SGS2 on TMO. Especially given the dearth of options for the Amaze here on xda. I only wish I was smart enough to help get S-off...
[HTC Amaze 4G] htc fan89:
If the amaze was available in canada when i got my sgs2, i would pick amaze because the design is just amazing
[HTC Amaze 4G] spiz516:
Anyone that buys the SGS2 is living in the now. I made the same mistake with the Behold 2 and then the Vibrant. I'm done with Samsung.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
the amaze duh! samsung is cheap plastic stuff.