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[Nexus One General] phoneguy 4567:
And how is what you describe above different then an OTA update, which fail for people as well?

People can try to sue but they will lose. If you point out the risks up front & people ignore the possible risks so be it, you're covered IMO. Are there any N1's still in their warranty period, if there are the number has to be really small.
[Nexus One General] cpm:
Yep mines still in warranty. Bought directly from Google in 2010, and as I'm in Europe I got a 2 year warranty. Just as well too!
[Nexus One General] RMerlin:
Except that a custom-designed updater done specifically to work around limitations in the N1 (that, I assume, cannot be worked out through a normal OTA update) is more likely to fail in a disastrous way than an OTA, which has been "tested" for years.

---------- Post added at 09:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 AM ----------

My point is to answer the person who said Google could simply design a special updater for the N1 and provide instructions on how to use it. I'm pointing out that people don't read instructions, therefore that won't cut it in terms of user-friendliness and safety.
[Nexus One General] island3r:
Yeah but HTC can pull the same trick it did with the Desire and the Gingerbread update. You know, they just release a RUU and the source and call it a "developer update".
[Nexus One General] phoneguy 4567:
Exactly Google could release it as a developer update, that would be better then not at all.
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
Developers should not be using this phone unless they intend to keep android apps in the dark ages.
[Nexus One General] Menelkir:
If n1 was a G1 I could agree, but theres almost no difference between N1 and NS, and NS will receive ICS. Not valid at all.
[Nexus One General] Lythandra:
Exactly. I see this all the time at work. People will just click whatever button that says "Ok" or "Next" without reading any instructions on the screen. The chance of them reading a Readme file, yeah ..... You have to make your update absolutely perfect because they will be hopeless if it does not install perfectly.
[Nexus One General] :
The ****ty digitizer is enough to deprecate the N1.
[Nexus One General] phoneguy 4567:
The digitizer has always been the way it is & has never stopped an update in the past.
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
Right, because we want developers to test apps for only 1 finger thanks to the ****ty digitizer, don't want them to test NFC apps, don't want them to test apps which may need more than the puny amount the N1 has (and don't get me started on internal storage), and don't want them to test apps on a phone that has a gpu that can play games at more than 1 fps?

Give me a break. If the N1 and the NS were so similar, there wouldn't be a big jump in benchmarks. Just because you may have a superiority complex or you want to justify paying $500 for the phone doesn't mean that our phone is better than a newer phone.
[Nexus One General] island3r:
Of course the NS is better than the N1, if it wasn't then it wouldn't exist obviously.

It's just that the differences are not THAT many between them. And let's be honest the reason the N1 isn't getting the upgrade via OTA is the small system partition. The Adreno 200 is more than enough to handle UI acceleration.
[Nexus One General] spamlucal:
This

10char
[Nexus One General] digg1980:
Respect to the Nexus one

Actually I should give all respect to the Nexus one as it was the first phone to make it with me for 2 years, till I got my Galaxy S2 LTE today. Though that does not mean I am getting rid of my Nexus one, but will sniff in it my personal line :). Though about getting ICS on Nexus one, won't that kill the performance of the Nexus one. I mean the Nexus one is not near as powerful as processing nor RAM as newer phones that planned for ICS. It will be interesting to see how it perform though!!
[Nexus One General] Menelkir:
So polite, you can use some respect here. I didn't say that N1 and NS are the same, and yes, they're similar (similar isn't equal) , go to gsmarena and stop this crying. The only reason of N1 not receiving is called internal system area (its resizable, but google doesn't cares) . Prices doesn't justify NOTHING, stop being immature.

Benchmarks only serves ego purposes, since is a very personal case.
[Nexus One General] :
People still can't see just how much of a bottleneck that ****ty digitizer is.

such a shame.
[Nexus One General] cedricj:
well said!

+1

+1

+1
[Nexus One General] msavic6:
My nexus one plays need for speed hot pursuit without any lag at more then 1fps. Bad Argument?
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
You said there are "almost no differences" which is completely incorrect if you've used both phones side by side. I still use a nexus one over a nexus S for multiple reasons but I would never even try to say that there isn't a performance difference in every day use-the S outperforms it in almost every way.

The flaws in the nexus one are unacceptable for a "developer device" especially with the release of honeycomb and ICS and I doubt it will remain one for much longer unless google really doesn't care about the platform.
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
Guys, stop complaining... We will get ICS in a way... That would be CyanogenMod or smart devs who are smarter like the guy from HyperSense resized the NAND partition to get a full blazing performance and i guess that ICS is gonna be around (System size is 150mb without Gapps) So im scared, that i just bought my nexus one 1 month ago and im not getting ics for this?? Will Steve Kondik do big favors for us?? Awkward moments... Will only find out when GN is out...
[Nexus One General] b1337:
Because everyone goes out and buys the latest phones? Your comment is retarded, the n1 is a good phone to dev on, many people still have single core 2.2 2.3 phones, think about it...
[Nexus One General] Menelkir:
Ignore the trolls, we have lots of good developers in xda, this is an obvious future.
[Nexus One General] barrielui:
it means that, N1 can surely run ICS, but need resize its internal memory.

Google may not do that because wipe and format are needed,

Google cannot do update in OTA form.

We can still expect ROMs from other parties, like cm9
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
Yes, that is correct... So, Google is stupid... Thank God, we have the BlackRose...
[Nexus One General] Amin`:
Guys! let me know: do the qsd8250 phones like N1 , x10 & desire can run ics?!
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
It able to run but for now, no...
[Nexus One General] dreamhunterr:
Space requirements are the least of our concerns. The chipset is a bit dated. While the CPU of the QSD8250 is surely enough, the GPU (Adreno 200) might be on the low end for an hardware accelerated UI.

If you want an example, most UIs will evolve similarly to the Google Music .apk. In my phone it's not buttery smooth, so unless they optimize the experience, I don't think the performance will be stellar...
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
Actually we got miui 4.0.1 but i dont think is real...
[Nexus One General] SilverHedgehog:
There's at least 11 phones that have Adreno 200:

Google Nexus One, GT540 Optimus, LS670 Optimus S, P509 Optimus T, VM670 Optimus V, Galaxy Ace, Xperia X10 Mini, Xperia X10, ZTE Blade, ZTE Racer, ZTE Skate.

Sure at least one of them will get ICS and give us the driver we need?
[Nexus One General] mattman83:
Problem is that all bar the ZTE's run a manufacturer modded version of android which typically means drivers aren't compatible with AOSP.

M.
[Nexus One General] SilverHedgehog:
Well, there's the Galaxy Ace then, and Samsung is usually good with updates.

Besides, ZTE drivers would be good than no drivers at all, right?
[Nexus One General] island3r:
No he said the opposite, ZTE are AOSP, Samsung are not. So it's ZTE drivers we want.
[Nexus One General] SilverHedgehog:
Oh. Remind me to not post at 2 am!

Anyway, ZTE Skate was released this year, so it may have a chance.

Also, there is a very very slim chance that google dropped nexus one late enough in development to already have those damn drivers...
[Nexus One General] blunden:
The 4.0.1 version that leaked out is actually quite smooth, unlike the Market version.
[Nexus One General] saint357:
awesome very nice
[Nexus One General] ufukes:
I m waiting ICS
[Nexus One General] thefascinater:
Icecream Sandwitch

We should stop arguing and should request the developers to make it available for N1 ASAP so we can also have a taste of ICS.

I know it would be very difficult but XDA developers are awsum!!
[Nexus One General] BLEK0TA:
wonderfull support from htc
[Nexus One General] auiotour:
So far the the alpha build over in the dev thread is working great. Follow the thread and there and its fairly easy to install it for anyone who doesn't know how.
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
I guess they wont left the nexus one alone...
[Nexus One General] lavael:
They were not announcing N1 to got official support. Makes me sad. On the other hand, I'n inspired by the quoted phrase: there not much issues for porting expected. I would only expect issue with small phone memory.
[Nexus One General] browngeek:
From what I gather, Google, rather than HTC deals with any Nexus One updates.

From reading the posts and news Google may not push ICS to the Nexus One. However as they will release the source, I'm guessing there will be bunch of unoffical roms, but no official rom.

(It will probably be a bit like HTC. They will push ICS to some of their devices, but not all of them. I'm betting the likes of the Desire won't get ICS officially).
[Nexus One General] evcz:
Hope they will support it...

Aosp source code is not enough to have a working rom... You need binary kernel modules for the various hardware (wifi and so on)...
[Nexus One General] cyberon:
Starting to feel sad now! :(

"Update: We also asked about whether the Nexus One is getting some ICS love, but there's no clear plan just yet."

Source: engadget
[Nexus One General] kykyky:
One of the Hong Kong media has asked the public relations officer of Google Miss Cheung , and she said Nexus S and Nexus One will get the update

Nexus S upgrade will be release after Nov ,but there is no timetable for Nexus One yet.

original website (Chinese):

http://unwire.hk/2011/10/19/nexus-one-s-will-get-ota-upgrade-to-ice-cream-sandwich/news/
[Nexus One General] cdef:
"Both Gabe Cohen, Android Product Manager, and Android User Experience Director Matias Duarte, have confirmed that the Nexus S and Nexus One will definitely be getting an update to Android 4.0. Even better news for wider, existing community of Android phone users is the fact that Google expects most Gingerbread devices to get the update too."

Can't post the link since I don't have enough posts, but it was from GizmoCrunch.
[Nexus One General] Anudu:
www geek.com/articles/mobile/android-4-0-coming-to-nexus-s-nexus-one-and-most-gingerbread-phones-20111019/
[Nexus One General] imperfection:
My Nexus S is being sent in to Samsung to (hopefully) be repaired, but if it can't be, then I hope the N1 does get it. I'm going to be using it again as my primary phone and it'd be awesome to have a 2 year old phone running the newest software :)
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
Lol, from htc wildfire to optimus one to nexus one... Google, please dont screwed up the nexus family...

Sent from my Nexus One using MIUI 1.10.14 AND IT LOOKS LIKE ICS
[Nexus One General] RafaMaster:
Oh, I'm very glad to hear that.
[Nexus One General] rickbosch:
This post links to Engadget as the source and that article clearly states that there are no current plans for the Nexus One. Bummer for us Desire owners too as we're reliant on the same graphic drivers. Might be time to move on. :(
[Nexus One General] phoneguy 4567:
"We also asked about whether the Nexus One is getting some ICS love, but there's no clear plan just yet." can just mean that Google was not ready to announce official support for ICS yet. The N1 wasn't exactly a runaway hit & a phone manufactured by HTC. Wasn't the whole ICS announcement part of the Nexus Prime launch, or am I mistaken?
[Nexus One General] :
Android 4.0 info---FYI

Sorry if already posted somewhere

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html

Ken
[Nexus One General] cdef:
Yeah, I don't know what the deal is.
[Nexus One General] rickbosch:
We will just have to be patient, but if the N1 was being updated, I would expect it to have been announced already.

Oh Google, why can't your updates be more like that other company. You know, the fruity one. ;)

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Nexus One General] evcz:
On that page they are comparing browser speed 2.3 vs 4.0... Nexus s is there with both the os versions... N1 isn't there :-(
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Don't read so much into that. They only need one before and after comparison to show the improved browser speed under ICS.
[Nexus One General] dr1337:
An Ice Cream Sandwich for GrandPa Droid

Look what we have here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Zuvv-mF_5k-xPGt6ml_cnBqyFetweKkuEymGeEF-NJI?feat=directlink

:)
[Nexus One General] jazzaddict:
Wow! Is this the real deal?! :eek:
[Nexus One General] knipp21:
Looks fake. Just sayin
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
It does look a bit odd... But the SDK is out, so an SDK port is possible, i suppose.
[Nexus One General] knipp21:
The clock, dock image, and the lack of a status bar scream Ics launcher from the market/xda
[Nexus One General] dr1337:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OhMWbdVsOJCOlhuSVUi2TBqyFetweKkuEymGeEF-NJI?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7aPxt1NRuAgi4RtihQSM0BqyFetweKkuEymGeEF-NJI?feat=directlink
[Nexus One General] knipp21:
Now that does scream the real thing :-)
[Nexus One General] dr1337:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw
[Nexus One General] zyr3x:
good job, laid out in a branch Source dev. and other users to help you
[Nexus One General] atoyu:
not smooth....and kernel is 2.X not 3.X:(
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
Maybe because this is a port of the SDK and not a usable rom?
[Nexus One General] DonDizzurp:
well well well, look what we have here :D

i hate people who complain. it just came out and isnt even meant for this phone, but look at what devs can do in hours..

GIVE IT TIME, NOOBIE
[Nexus One General] bleach168:
I am now expecting Google to officially update Nexus Ones!
[Nexus One General] atoyu:
about him

http://twitter.com/#!/dr1337

https://github.com/anarchron
[Nexus One General] knipp21:
Ummmmm I'm not a n00b..and I wasn't complaining. And this phone was included to be updated.

Any phone with 2.3 should get ics.
[Nexus One General] imfloflo:
Good job!

Hope you are going to work on some optimisations and release an alpha version, so we can test it too.

F.
[Nexus One General] Feeshie:
I might actually get a Nexus One now instead of a MyTouch. GJ
[Nexus One General] chuspitin:
Here a video of ICS on Nexus One...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw&sns=tw
[Nexus One General] DaXmax:
Finally! So no testing? Links?
[Nexus One General] Androidity3000:
I highly believe that the N1 will get this, mainly because there is no real requirements that the N1 can't reach. If we don't officially get it, than MIUI rom devs agree that they will support ICS code once it is released AOSP. But if I was a betting man, I bet N1 owners will be one of the first to get ICS...
[Nexus One General] Androidity3000:
Yea I dont think most of the people were complaining... Plus, how is this not meant for the N1...? Just because it doesn't have the mulitasker button, like all other android phones other than Nexus Prime. It's not like the N1 is lacking far behind at all or can't handle this rather minor update.
[Nexus One General] DonDizzurp:
lol.. calm down guys.. i was talking about atoyu's post because hes upset about something that was just released (and not for our devices) yet a dev still made it work within hours..

the n1, as far as i know, has only been updated with 2.3.6.. they didnt officially release 2.3.7 for the n1 and ics isnt on any official support list..

correct me if im wrong, because i could be..
[Nexus One General] Androidity3000:
Well, you are wrong because the N1 is on 2.3.7, not that this has anything to do with ICS anyways, just a simple version number... And I would like to see where an 'official' support list for ICS is anyways...
[Nexus One General] dr1337:
There really isn't much of a jump from kernel 2.6.37 to 3.0.

I chose to use an older kernel because there really isn't much that the new kernel will provide in terms of features and functionality. It will however be a stable and proven kernel.

If you're going to build a house of cards, you'd at least want a solid foundation to build them on.
[Nexus One General] xnpu:
Nothing official, but looks like you're right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw&feature=player_embedded
[Nexus One General] :
nothing to see here
[Nexus One General] bassmadrigal:
I thought 2.3.7 was only on unofficial ROMs like CM. I believe 2.3.6 is still the latest official version for the N1.
[Nexus One General] Jasonhunterx:
Cant wait to fire it up :D
[Nexus One General] Androidity3000:
There is an official OTA out. Plus, like I said before, what would be the big difference anyway? Just a simple version number?
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
The official OTA for Nexus One is 2.3.6, build GRK39F. Nexus S got 2.3.7, it fixed something in NFC which N1 doesn't have, so this version was skipped. Just a number, and indeed says absolutely nothing about ICS, but since it mattered enough to bring it into discussion - might as well state it correctly.
[Nexus One General] Androidmotion:
Nice work so far! :)
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
The SDK port is a proof of concept really.

I hope, and almost expect, Google to give the N1 an official ICS release.
[Nexus One General] ZishanMalik:
I believe that the N1 will get ICS, the only question is if its through and OTA update or through a rom.

I am one of many with a broken power button on a stock nexus One, and if its not an OTA update, I am not sure how I am going to be able to flash a custom rom to get ICA. Is there a way that I can flash an ICS rom through ADB or ROM Manager? I know there are a lot of N1 owners with the broken power button problem.
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
How else were you planning to flash an ICS rom? If a rom is made(I will eat my hat if CM9 isnt on the N1), is will almost certainly be made to be flashed in recovery.
[Nexus One General] joshuwa:
Really excited for ICS, although N1 internal space makes me sad.
[Nexus One General] RafaMaster:
According to Wikipedia, Nexus One is officially getting ICS:

"The Nexus One will be getting Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich but the exact date is still to be determined."

This is a quote from Wikipedia.

Can't link the source. I have not enough post to post an external link.
[Nexus One General] phazerorg:
The source is a geek.com article, which sites its own source as Engadget. The Engadget article only mentions the Nexus S, except to say "We also asked about whether the Nexus One is getting some ICS love, but there's no clear plan just yet."

I'm really hoping for it as well, but this certainly doesn't confirm anything.
[Nexus One General] jacindc:
About an hour ago, longtime tech reporter Rob Pegoraro (formerly of the Washington Post) tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/#!/robpegoraro/status/128967477622349824

Meeting with Google's Android folks to talk about Ice Cream Sandwich. Any questions you'd like me to ask them?

This was sent to him a few minutes later:

https://twitter.com/#!/jdland/status/128968349941121025

@robpegoraro Are they gonna give ICS to the Nexus One? Please please pretty please?

This is Rob's response:

https://twitter.com/#!/robpegoraro/status/128979068656959488

@jdland Sorry, the answer is "we're not planning to update that." Could get it via a third-party ROM, though.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Too bad, Guess I'll finally need to make the switch to Cyanogenmod when it gets ICS...
[Nexus One General] RafaMaster:
Oh man that's pretty sad :/
[Nexus One General] jacindc:
Google Says No ICS for Nexus One?

(pulling out of another thread)

Earlier this evening, longtime tech reporter Rob Pegoraro (formerly of the Washington Post) tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/#!/robpegoraro/status/128967477622349824

Meeting with Google's Android folks to talk about Ice Cream Sandwich. Any questions you'd like me to ask them?

This was sent to him a few minutes later:

https://twitter.com/#!/jdland/status/128968349941121025

@robpegoraro Are they gonna give ICS to the Nexus One? Please please pretty please?

This is Rob's response:

https://twitter.com/#!/robpegoraro/status/128979068656959488

@jdland Sorry, the answer is "we're not planning to update that." Could get it via a third-party ROM, though.

When told that this was big news, his reply:

http://twitter.com/robpegoraro/status/128990555597320192

I had no idea. Hiroshi Lockheimer didn't act like it was big news (FYI, he said the Nexus S will get an ICS update).

I think Rob's going to write a piece about this (he's writing for Discovery News now), so watch for that.
[Nexus One General] baseballfanz:
CM9:D.....................
[Nexus One General] uoY_redruM:
Why would the question be answered as if it was no big deal, when no ICS for the N1 would obviously be a big deal to the Android community considering its the official developers phone?

Wonder how true this is...

Not saying he's lying, but I don't see how it would be overlooked so easily and be considered "no big deal".
[Nexus One General] bkrill:
Not saying this article is accurate but....

http://androidspin.com/2011/10/25/e...c-devices-to-receive-ice-cream-sandwich-otas/
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
The N1 is still an official developer phone. Until that changes (i.e. it is retired), I don't see any reason why we wouldn't see ICS.
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
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[Nexus One General] Dirk:
Am i missing something? Why would anybody care about official support when CM9 will be far superior as always?
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
As a CM7 user, you mean buggy and unstable as always?

If it wasn't for the fact that stock no longer supports trackball wake, I'd be using it.
[Nexus One General] obsanity:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...roid-upgrade-for-Google-Nexus-S-in-weeks.html

If this is true then this would be the first time I will say Google is full of sh** on this. Released on January 2010 puts this phone at less than 2 years old and still with a 1Ghz processor, a GPU and 512 RAM which is very much the same as Nexus S (maybe less powerful specs though). I've always been behind everything that Google did but if they do not update their first flagship device which a lot of people paid FULL price for to support them, in what seemed like a revolution move towards telcom dependency removal, I will seriously reconsider if I want to continue trusting this company. Not updating it would mean that all they are after is getting users to update to their newer phone. I smell greed and evil!
[Nexus One General] lolobabes:
The news is all over the place now and I am so pissed about it! Is it a hardware issue? If so then I would understand but if not, then I hate you google! lol
[Nexus One General] bbiao:
Hope this is not true, Nexus one is still the official developer phone.
[Nexus One General] efrant:
To add to the rumour mill: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/10/26/htc-desire-nexus-one-unlikely-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
[Nexus One General] lolobabes:
+1M plus 10 characters ahihihihihi
[Nexus One General] samagon:
Considering Google expects 18 month life cycle from manufacturers, why would they be different?

As soon as I read the announcement from Google regarding the 18 month life cycle, I knew 2.3 was the last major upgrade we'd get on n1. Which is why I'm pestering tmo to carry the gn.
[Nexus One General] droid512:
there is a video of it working on the n1 and it not being terribly buggy we know that someone

will port it with modded goodies so I'm not all that worried about it....I am however curious just to know the when it will happen

Sent from my rooted Nexus1