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[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
It's happening because you're on the rootable V4 firmware. The system is trying to get you to update to the V6 firmware but it's force closing because Revolt 1.5 stops the automatic update.
[LG Revolution] wayneb02:
Come on verizon/lg!
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
I got the same thing today, and they previously tried to push V6 - is this a "repush" or is this a different update?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Anything is possible, it very well could be the "soak test" for GB. I highly doubt it but I guess it's possible. I had that popup come up several times a day though when I was on Revolt 1.5 and it just kept coming.

Slightly off topic, did you see the latest leaked pics of the Verizon Map? There's no Revo 2 on it and it goes up until mid November I believe.
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Yeah, I think LG was thinking the Revo was going to big the hit, and it wasn't. The Revo 2 may be on hold until they figure out what went wrong. When I had spoken to them, they indicated that this phone (ours) was supposed to be a flagship for them. They screwed up by adding Bing.

I'd like to believe in my little make-believe world that we're going to get ICS instead of GB, but I fear at this point, they may be somewhat writing us (and the rest of the world) off at the moment.

From what I have seen, I think this phone had a high return rate, and was short on sales.

Good piece of hardware, bad execution. I have my doubts as whether I will go LG next time around.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
I don't think Bing was the only thing they messed up on. The whole change of the typical Android file system was completely weird. With ICS being launched very soon (Nov 10th according the latest VZW Map), it could be very possible that the Revo gets ICS instead of GB. I wish it was possible to have a list released of all the VZW phones expected to get ICS.

Like you, I seriously doubt that I'll ever get a LG phone again. I got my second Revo (after the first being stolen and smashed) and my wife quickly messed that one up too by leaving it on top of the car. Now I have a Droid Charge and couldn't be happier (yes I could). It's a very nice phone, much like the Revo though it doesn't have much support. The main developer Kejar passed off his ROMs to someone else and left for the Bionic.

The Revo was a very good device to me. Never had any issues with it at all, but yes, exactly as you said "poor execution."
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
You have a Samsung Charge and there's no support? I thought Samsung was supposed to be the king of open sourcing their products?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
There's some, more than the Revolution but not as much as other devices. Its got GB on it so im happy. :)
[LG Revolution] holla420:
I doubt if I will go lg again as well.my phone was having issues so Verizon sending me out a thunderbolt w/a extended battery for free since my revolution was freaking out on me.I hope the tb is better
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I will never get an LG again. This phone was such a letdown. I hated it so much, I went out and bought the Bionic. When people talk about locked bootloaders on other phones, I tell them to come check the Revolution out.

Bing on this phone was the least of things I hated about this phone. The whole screwy setup of how this phone was set up was just terrible. I do highly recommend contacting LG to complain so hopefully they never release something like this again. I will never give them another chance even its called the DROID kryptonite and had quad processors.
[LG Revolution] KaneOfMars:
I'm sad to see so many people leave, but i do understand. The Revo is the only smartphone I've had... And I like it, it's been good to me. Besides, I have to like it... I'm not eligible for an upgrade untill 2013 :P

I do have to agree though, probably will never buy an LG phone again. All of my cell phones prior have been Motorola, but I haven't been too impressed by them lately either.

Sent from my ICS'd Revolt Bryce Device
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to have kept my Revo, due to unforeseen circumstances I had to buy a new phone. I looked all over craigslist for Revos and I found a couple but they wanted $400 for them. Found a Samsung Charge that was a little more in my price range ($200 w/otterbox case) so I snagged it up. So yes, since I no longer have the Revo, I am looking for someone to take over my themes here. I asked someone already but they don't seem too sure they can do it so the offer is on the table for any takers. I love this community though and will still be hanging around here to help out with any issues people might have. So I just wanted to let you guys know that I'll still be around here, I know you've all heard that before but I will. I've had a different phone for a few days now and I've still came on here and posted. Even helped someone out on Google+ that was having MMS issues. I'm not leaving, :D I just don't have this phone anymore :(
[LG Revolution] KaneOfMars:
Glad to see you'll be sticking around :D

I've been sketching out a few ideas for a theme but have been having trouble with the xml files (wanted to try something different) I posted a thread asking for help with this :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18749107#post18749107
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Yep... Google needs to clean up their mess by "encouraging" their distributors and carriers to start taking the high road on fixing the messy dog-crap that is ruining the industry's reputation (as well as creating a mandatory standard for upgrades), and they need to do it quick. Enough with trying to strategically plan a million different styles of releases with crap-ware and get on board with placing ONE OS and ONE Unified Architecture on ALL devices made within the last 2 years. The difference can be the hardware, the design, and the accompanying exclusive apps produced by a company that is actually "competing" instead of "shoveling."

Also, take companies like GameLoft and kick them up the proverbial ass for making a further fragmentation of the Androidosphere.

If these companies don't stop fighting each other on standards, and Google does not change their ways on standards like graphical and application APIs, then Apple wins. And we all know we don't want to see THAT happen! (or at least I don't).

I've been watching youtube a bit too much on what the iPad 2 can do, and I have to say that it's freaking impressive compared to Google's weak showing. If they had one unifying architecture, they would obliterate Apple off the map.

They allude to the fact that this is what ICS will do, and I sure as hell hope so, but my thoughts on this is that it will be another fractured update, where everyone who paid $400+ for their devices will have to spend another $400+ just to get the update (read: buy a new device). This will absolutely remove them from the runnings in the tablet race (and piss off their existing smartphone user-base). If that's the case, I hope Microsoft has a good showing, because I'm trying REALLY hard not to bite into the Kool-Aide flavored fruit.

I really like Google, but they're seriously starting to piss me off. I've got a year and a half with my phone to figure out what comes next. Impress me Google, and be good to my current device, because I'm yours to lose (for now)!

On that note: SPC - I'd offer to take over and learn the trade, but between my job, my side jobs, and the whole single parent thing, I couldn't guarantee solid support either.
[LG Revolution] speedtrap63:
The iPad2 is very impressive indeed. I got one through my job and I find I use it much more than my rooted Nook Color simply because things work smoothly. I realize that this is not exactly apples to apples but I've played around with the Xoom and Galaxy Tab and I find them to not be a fluid as the iPad2.

That being said, I am an Android guy, not a closet Apple fan. I loved my Dinc and I'm not so in love with my Revolution. Wish I could get a Nexus, but I'm stuck with the Revo that really, really needs an update.

My long winded point here is that Major is right. Google needs to set some standards for these manufacturers so that everyone can get a consistent experience. Android is a fantastic platform, but its too fragmented even today. Everytime Google releases an update whether it's Froyo, GB or ICS, they always say this will cure the fragmentation problem and it never does. I hope this time is different.
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Yeah, I'm an NC user as well, and love it... Part of my frustration (aside from my phone, LG, Google, and Verizon) comes from the want to purchase a full fledged Google tablet, but reading forums on users of these tablets that paid $400+ for their devices not being able to access apps, or having issues with gaming, or having issues with wifi due to the OS, or the countless other problems. Meanwhile iPad 2 users are posting YouTube videos of playing ultra high end games without endless hacks, etc.

It's kind of humbling when you really get to see the separation that is occurring here. Android is becoming the Linux of the smartphone/tablet world. That's not meant to be a dig at Linux, but it's the primary reason why Linux as a desktop has never been taken seriously by major developers.
[LG Revolution] speedtrap63:
I couldn't agree more. I'm particularly frustrated with LG and Verizon right now for leaving the Revo hanging with Froyo and the numerous bugs. My particular favorite is the one where all of a sudden I can't make or receive calls without rebooting! :confused:

I can handle most of the issues calmly, but when I can't use my phone as a phone, my hair bursts into flames! :mad:

And back at the ranch, the iPad 2 users are happily using the tablets without a care in the world...
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
Eh, iPad is good for games, hulu+ and netflix... the browser is horrible, but the whole partial airplay integration with certain apps and the Apple tv2 is pretty nice. Would love to see mirroring on the iPad2 over ATV but my next purchase will probably be the nexus and I don't really care that much for the iPad. It was sweet when I got it and slowly the "magic" is wearing off... it just works, which I guess is nice, but I don't mind messing with things and I really don't care for Apple's way of things. Multitasking in its current state is fail and there are all of about 4 settings which don't even make sense the way they are arranged hierarchically(?).

In comparison, I have no problems with my 3G Xoom(never sent it in for the update, its a WiFi tab for me... the only way I will is if I have to for ICS), browser is fantastic and the speaker volume is amazing! It does everything _I_ need a tablet to do, and the more I use it, the more my iPad hibernates in the corner.

Personal preference and all that, I think that part of the problem is the feeling that the grass is greener; everything has flaws, pick that which had the least to you... also, we seem to have gotten to the point off tech A.D.D. where we _need_ the newest thing or else we will die... you should buy your device for what it has, not what it is going to have... (well, xoom is another story lol I feel sorry for the people that waited forever for that update. Traded an ip4 for a xoom and incredible so I've already come out ahead) even Apple can't (probably read; doesn't, forced obsolescence) update all of the latest and greatest features for everything once a new model is out.. hell, I'm still 3 or 4 updates behind on both my ATV and iPad because they work and better than when I got them...sure there are new features but Meh.

I blame mostly Verizon for this phone. Could you imagine a G2X LTE phone...?! That's not saying it isn't without problems... and the whole supposed tegra 2 LTE fiasco... LG can make a decent phone and always has solid hardware. Enough rambling for now..

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[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
Yes LG can make better phones, but this time they didn't. Verizon and LG share the blame on this one. There is no way Verizon should have allowed LG to come with a substandard phone on to their LTE network. But there was no reason LG couldn't have brought something better themselves, even if the bloatware is out of their hands.
[LG Revolution] wayneb02:
I am beginning to think the mid october surprise was the announcement of ics. And that this phone is going straight to it, after the release if the nexus that is. Just a thought
[LG Revolution] ThePheonixChameleon:
I wouldn't hold my breath.. hell, I won't even hold my breath on us getting gingerbread.

Sadly enough the only thing I have faith in, is that by now Cubed could have finished a flawless port of CM7 if he hadn't held off for an update that may never come.
[LG Revolution] Techluv:
You are assuming allot in that last statement about cubed... Even he said he was stumped on how to work with the LTE programming. So with that, this phone having a CM7 port would have ended up a 3g phone....missing the point.

aside from all this... I, for one, LOVE this phone (now that it's rooted)! It does everything that I want it to do, I have no issues with critical things like phone calls and texting, and the ROMS for this thing are awesome! I can't thank all those out there that have developed for this phone enough for a hat you have done with this device! Sure there are some quirks here and there...but I find them to be trivial compared to what I upgraded from! Would I get this phone again? Hell yes...and twice on Tuesday! :-)
[LG Revolution] thermal_tim:
Please stick around. There aren't many left. Me, personally, I've jumped ship. My iPhone gets here on Friday. I've had 5 Android phones in the past three our so years. Developing a little, testing a ton. And it seems that just as one device is ABOUT to get there, they dump it for something else. They being big red and the manufacturers.

Now, they lock us into 2 year contacts, but half support is for 6 months. UNLESS you get lucky and get a flagship device. Buy how do you know which one will be the next og Droid? By the time you know which one it is, its too late and the world has moved on... So, I sent my Asus Transformer back to Amazon, put my Revo up for sale with my wife's, bought two iPhone 4s and an iPad 2, and I'm done... I'm pissed that had to move on, but I almost lost my job because the damn thing turned of in the middle of the night, twice, and I missed two very important phone calls. My family comes before my up all night on IRC testing the Revo tool kit with cubed nights. Goodbye you all, it was fun. You were helpful and made a ****ty phone with no support much better, longer having

personal support from LG. Thank you all and good luck with whatever phone you get next.

Cheers,

Tim
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
I think seeing the LG Esteem on MetroPCS, almost the exact same phone, release with GB out the door really drove the nail home for people. I keep reading Cubed will save us... but honestly... I think Cubed has moved on. I do not expect to ever see a CM7 port for this phone. Like many phones with Verizon it was a complete miss and is being left by the way side. Its only redeeming quality is that it is a LTE phone which is why it may get GB but I think it will be a long time and it will be an after thought. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

H.
[LG Revolution] Danzdroid:
Interesting that my "Rev Reality Check" topic mysteriously disappeared -- ahead of its time I guess. Rather than see more momentum for innovation, we're seeing some of the most loyal former contributors either publicly jumping ship or just quietly sliding away.

Volunteer developers naturally want to donate their efforts to devices that have a large loyal community -- not just for a phone they feel stuck with themselves. We have some ardent loyalists for sure....but I just don't see this suddenly sprouting wings and taking off.

I plan to see what the Galaxy Nexus looks like after about 60 days post-launch. Then I'll likely bite the bullet, pay the $600 (gag), wipe this phone clean and sell it for "whatever". This dog will never hunt.
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
I don't think the Nexus will excite all that much other than the new version of Android. Other than 4G, I really don't see much happening to excite. I liked the idea behind the Atrix, but I heard the poor phone couldn't hold up under the weight of being a laptop. Seems like the next evolution to me - carry around a screen that turns your phone into a tablet, then carry around a dock that turns your tablet into a laptop/netbook. Of course, all this needs to come in a little less than the price of a tablet, because we all know that a phone isn't going to top a true tablet in performance. Maybe they could build in an additional video processor into the phone to tablet enclosure?

Phone -> Tablet -> Laptop. I think that's where the smart future is, but I don't think we're there yet, and I think the Atrix proved it.
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
The iPad 2 may offer better alternatives, but I'm on the original =P rendering and scrolling is always too choppy in the browser...

And as with everyone and different opinions, I find that the 4.3" phone is just about perfect for everything I need it to do. I have way too many electronics and recently I have begun giving up updating to find that perfect device because they don't put out the best products just products good enough to hold people over, which is probably why I'm alright with this phone's shortcomings. Except maybe my Samsung LED TV, that thing is amazing! Had I held out a little for the D series, I would have gotten bigger, better and cheaper, but to honestly think more than a UN55C8000 is necessary is probably crazy =P

ill probably get the gnex and forget all about this phone and lose my desire to keep searching because its too much to constantly keep up with all these phones coming out every other day. Meh. The iPhone is slowly failing, android is losing steam and wp7 came too late to the party. What's next after the "smartphone"?

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[LG Revolution] bhp117:
Phone -> Tablet -> Laptop. I think that's where the smart future is, but I don't think we're there yet, and I think the Atrix proved it.[/QUOTE]

maybe some thing like asus padfone

http://www.pcworld.com/article/229101/asus_announces_padfone_tabletphone_and_199_netbook.html
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Yep, that would be almost exactly what I was talking about...lol
[LG Revolution] Mr Frog:
I resonantly asked about the current status of the updates for the lg revolution and got these answers.

* That's the frustrating part of this job, not being able to be more specific and give you the answers you need... I'd guess before the end of 2011... It could be sooner, I really don't have a firm date, this is my guess. But I'll post when I hear anything further.

* Change to Google for Dedicated Search Button... I've held off installing GB on my Revolution becuse I need to have what is in the field. I'll ask someone who is currently running it.

* ICS? I don't have access to see that far down the road, so I don't know. I'd like to see GB get out before I worry about ICS.

So it looks like there is a 100% chance of gingerbread coming, the question is when. I hope its soon!
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
Where'd you get the info?
[LG Revolution] Mr Frog:
I posted a question on LG's Forum. They don't have much information on release dates, but its still helpful.

http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards...-and-speculations/topics/lg-revolution-update
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
So basically what he is saying they already have Gingerbread on the device but not released to the public!??????! Correct me if I read that wrong........

I've Revolted have you?
[LG Revolution] Mr Frog:
Yep! At least that's what I got from it. I think some people from LG are testing it which means there is a version of gingerbread for the revo out there some where...
[LG Revolution] bhp117:
i think they should really have it out soon if not, all revo owners will be mad because even their low end phone that just came out on verizon and sprint have 2.3 gb

verizon lg enlighten

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395098,00.asp#fbid=5cydjTW33Yi

sprint lg marquee

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395121,00.asp#fbid=5cydjTW33Yi

seriously WTF LG
[LG Revolution] Feeshie:
Guys. I don't have a LG revolution but I have a LG Optimus which is Lg's best selling low end device. We received the gingerbread update months ago even though it was pretty bad. LG promised to give all their devices atleast 1 update and they delivered for the Optimus. I doubt they will leave one of their high end phones hanging when they have gave their low end phone the update. I have faith that LG won't quit on you guys, but patience is key.
[LG Revolution] holla420:
I just got sick of my revo.w/no work being done and the problems I was dealing with I said duck it LG sucks I learned my lesson
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
ummm... LG Esteem... is the Revo with different radios and GB... They had GB for this hardware for a long time.

http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/LG-MS910.jsp
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
Delete me please.

I've Revolted have you?
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
There was nothing snide in my comment if I was being snide I would have "(rolled eyes)". They have a working version for the hardware. It takes them nothing to change out the files needed to get a working version with the Verizon radios. And as an open forum, the information was not just for you. How can one truly derive a state of attitude from pure text, because I used the word umm... Take the post for what it is... a comment on the internet... nothing more nothing less. I tend not to read any emotion into a web post unless specifically stated like (roll eyes)
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
Ok then I will apologize. Sorry for reading it wrong.

I've Revolted have you?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
If it takes nothing, then why isn't it done yet? It's obviously not that easy.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
I think he was talking about at build time for lg. There are several different factors for us on porting it over that lg wouldn't have to face, when doing there own builds from their source.
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
It takes a little longer than that, but a few things will come into play that will delay it even further:

1. They have to write Bing into 2.3. I'm sure whatever sweetheart deal they originally made with Microsoft and Verizon requires it. (Verizon because they get to charge for maps, Microsoft because they get to screw the customer and pay LG to do it).

2. The new hooks have to be written for the hardware, but you would have thought that would have been taken care of with the esteem. Then again, they did screw up the LTE drivers first time around.

3. Verizon blocks everything, even if it's ready to go.

4. Perhaps they don't care all that much. With the whole mess they made, I figure this is all loss at this point. The only further down they have to go is tarnishing their name.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
That's exactly what I was trying to point out. A lot of people think they should just be able to slap GB on the Revo because the Esteem has it, sadly that's not the case. I just hate it when people that have no real idea what goes in to all this, think it should just be a simple solution.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
as MT stated I was referring to LG not to local DEVs. LG has the complete source and all the APIs and could easily put together GB for the Revo. To expand on my previous post, I would bet that it is most likely Verizon holding things up by having LG butcher GB with Bing.

And when I say throw together and easily I mean in a month or so for a working beta build (minus bing).

@indyred99 it's all good. :)
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Sorry if that post was worded wrong. I knew you meant LG and not the Devs here. Just saying maybe it's not all that easy for them either to convert it to work with the Verizon radios (since Verizon has to make everything complicated). I don't know though.
[LG Revolution] Beamer9408:
That D7000 looks good in my living room lol
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
Bastard with ur "virtually edgeless" design!

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[LG Revolution] Beamer9408:
Lol that is a nice feature