yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I personally find you can see the difference.

There are display comparison tests, there have been some done on this forum even.

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Lol this forum is hilarious...
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
We do not have 16M colours. Go to /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/bits_per_pixel to find out for yourself. 24 bpp is 16M colours, we have 16 bpp.

And no, the lack of true colour (24 bpp) is apparent in all aspects of the display, it is just easier to notice when looking at gradients, particularly green.

EDIT:

And no, the level of bits per pixel does not cause/have anything to do with the FPS cap.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Lol finally some logic...
[XPERIA X10 General] tuner520:
LOL, both pics are gonna look the same on X10 unless altered
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Pictures are up!:)

Opps, never knew we can see the color of screen like this! Thanks for such informative post!

The reason i mention FPS cap because i saw some theory saying that 16M color will make the CPU overload, if the screen is refreshing at 60FPS, so maybe lower refresh rate can get us 16M color.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I own the incredible s and i can tell you nothing about the x10 display is anywhere close to the Inc s.

Not even in the same ballpark. Not even in the same universe for that matter lol
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Yeah, i have to say that the S-LCD on Inc S is really impressive. Colors are vibrant, crispy detail. But on this point i just wanna focus on the color gradient. =)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
It's 16bit.

The x10 just has a really good dithering method that works well due to the size of the pixels.

Take away that dithering and the x10's gradient colors will look weak.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
The pic you chose is not a good one...

There are display comparison pictures try those and you'll really see. The difference
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
Also, for future reference, use a gradient image for comparisons, preferably black>green>white, as human eyes are more sensitive to discrepancies in green than any other colour.

It's a lot easier that way than a wallpaper.
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
Um, True Color is 32bit.
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
Actually, true colour is 24 bpp. 32 bpp is true colour with an extra 8 bits for an alpha channel.

EDIT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth

"Many modern desktop systems (Mac OS X, GNOME, KDE, Windows XP/Vista/7, etc.) offer a 32-bit color option (given a suitably modern video card), but in that context, 32-bit color refers to 24-bit TrueColor with 8 bits for an alpha channel. When switching to an 8/16/24-bit color option in those systems, generally transparency/translucency effects are disabled, and the only reduction in color depth is seen when going to 8/16-bit color."
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Nope....

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#Truecolor

32bit is called deep color
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
Oh, I never knew about that, what a shame.
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Hmm, seems like we're using back the old 16bit one? Or maybe the dithered 18bit?
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
16 bit. Possibly dithered, I'm not sure.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
16bit with a line of code to help with dithering placed in the building prop is all it is....

Ask iridaki, she can tell you the line she discovered it.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
The build prop contains mere parameters nothing more.

It's not really code.. just a flag that tells the gpu to use dithering.

Sure visuals are calculated at 24Bit but the screen or GPU outputs it as 16Bits

Else the dithering would be useless.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Well it's a =1 or 0 statement, so theoretically still code.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Don't call a shoe a sock...
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
The lines in the build prop are still referred to as code.

Google it yourself.

Anyhow this is a dumb argument
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
POINT IS...

we have a pretty good screen, and even if it's not as good as 16M would be, nobody will be disappointed with it
[XPERIA X10 General] negrobembon:
Its still.better than most 65k screens out there
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Is it though?

Has anyone even done a legit comparison with another similar sized screen with the same resolution?
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
I dont think it is easy to get a device that has 4 inch screen, WVGA resolution with color lower than 256k...
[XPERIA X10 General] negrobembon:
Thats hard to find, i only had the milestone xt701 had 16m colors and 3.7 screen and the x10 was better
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
I think the strength of Sony is making awesome looking screen and superb camera, dont you guys think thats true? ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Camera is good though Imo screen isn't amazing
[XPERIA X10 General] jianlinooi:
LOL...

hope 2012 phone got tegra 3
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Bravia engine?
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
Merely sets the brightness, contrast and other settings to make pictures and video's seem more vivid in the gallery app.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
And is a battery drainer as well.
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
Yes I sort of agree, X10 has a good screen & a great camera
[XPERIA X10 General] Lee_phenomena:
Im agree with u
[XPERIA X10 General] ebbano:
I'm not enthusiastic for the screen and the touch.

My impression is that black tend to blue for increase brilliance.

I like more the HD2' s 4.3 color are realistic, black is black, gooder contrast.

Either the small (too small) X10 mini' s display for me is better.
[XPERIA X10 General] LegibleEel:
Why have the devs not put 16m colours on our phone yet?? Can't our x10 run it?
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
If it was that easy, it would have been done.

Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
[XPERIA X10 General] LegibleEel:
ah, I heard somewhere that all you needed to do was a add a few lines in the kernel or something. Guess he was talking bollocks lol :P
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
yup,even i heard devs saying that once bootloader in unlocked they just need to add a couple of lines and we will get 16M colors :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
My previous statement still stands.
[XPERIA X10 General] rasoooli:
I heard that too .
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
The problem with the x10 is SE's lack of sharing the original drivers source for the hardware.

Much more would become of the device with just that.
[XPERIA X10 General] matthew5025:
My atrix has 16M colour, but the file shows 16, not 24.
[XPERIA X10 General] NMaverick:
I thing anything over 16M is a waste of bits!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
are their any phone screens over 16m colours?

What is your point?
[XPERIA X10 General] Mazgalin:
x10 does not have 16m colors :-) and that is a fact.
[XPERIA X10 General] NMaverick:
16m colors is a waste of bits

My point is that "Almost all cheap LCD displays (such as typical twisted nematic types) use dithered 18-bit color (64 × 64 × 64 = 262,144 combinations) to achieve faster transition times, but they must use either dithering or Frame Rate Control to fake 24-bit-per-pixel truecolor, or throw away 6 bits of color information away entirely. The best LCD displays can display 24-bit or greater color depth." So even if they make a 18-bit or 24-bit display (which is not far beyond) and according to this "Usually, truecolor is defined to mean at least 256 shades of red, green, and blue, for a total of at least 16,777,216 color variations. The human eye is popularly believed to be capable of discriminating among as many as ten million colors.", IF they bring 24-bit color into a tablet, phone screen or monitor it will just be a waste of bits as we cannot distinguish anything above 10.000.000 colors.

All info taken from here" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth "
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
we have 24 bit on most good phones already, that is 16mil colours lol

It even says that in what you posted..

There is higher than this however, and I agreed that would be a waste. I hardly think 16mil is a waste though
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
16 bit = +- 64 000 colors

24 bit = +- 16 000 000 colors

32 bit is mostly used gpu side.

Displays that do 32bit are basically still only using the 24bit figure..

'Since displays can't become invisible' =p

According to my calculations...

running the entire GPU in 32bit mode = one laggy as hell phone.

Even if images are drawn in 24bit mode the gpu would have to render in 24 to 32 bits to have a visible color boost there by having a severe effect on performance..

The texture sizes go up, the gpu strain goes up... = one laggy as hell phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cecco1970:
:confused: I did not understand how the human eye can really make a distinction, however, when the available pixels are 854 × 480 (for a total of 409920 pixels) in a theoretical image that uses all ii 410K pixels with 256K colors, coated in a single 4-inch. . certainly enjoy the pictures really need another screen with more definition and size, but maybe I'm the only one with this thought because I do not know the details (?) :confused:

EDIT: BRAVIA think has more feedback on the actual image display ... right?

Sorry for my english, I use google translate :p
[XPERIA X10 General] sjondenon:
when the 2.3.3 update was announced I asked Rikard Skogberg (or whatever his name is) if the x10 would get 16m colors. He said it wouldn't get it because it took too much time to rewrite everything for 16m colors... so he actually said the phone is capable of it...
[XPERIA X10 General] pulsar88:
SE should prioritize all the xperia line up. not just 2011 line up.
[XPERIA X10 General] negrobembon:
What if we change the amount of colors in the default prop?
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
No, you'd need to rewrite the display drivers.

Sent from my Snapdragon.
[XPERIA X10 General] bius88:
Why, then,developers has not yet made.

This is unreal?:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] Frosty666:
Because it is not easy. Like I said many times before, if it were that simple, it would have been done.

Sent from my Snapdragon.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
lol do you know how hard it would be to write drivers from scratch?

Or how long it would take?

Why don't you try it if you want it so bad lol
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Download:

http://www.multiupload.com/0K2TOCZ3DR

Update 1(Fixes Timescape an Settings)[Just install custom zip,no need to wipe anything]

http://www.multiupload.com/BOY03CAEHX

Instructions:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mlatti:
pics is here, but where is the rom?

btw pravis dobre romove ,keep going.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
ETA 1h20min Uploading...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Full Support for Lockscreen too

I'm done with lockscreen too.:D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Berik84:
So it is AOSP ROM with SE apps? Any bugs? Old Timescape Spline? Facebook Inside Xperia 2.0?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] InternationalPlayer71:
Android 2.3.7??
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] icbless:
it shows 2.3.3. this ROM is fast =)

is it me..or oxygen setting..is not working.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tayub:
yeah the rom is great but the O2 setting is not working
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Achotjan:
i dont want to say somethink bad of he rom of anyone else , but guys , pleas you dont even know what you are doing , spaarc has take the freex10 as base and made a rom and we all know that freex10 is just theamed stock rom , and now you them it in your turn to stock one , so this is only a stock rom , its maybe fast or other , but update the op and informe users thanks

cheers

Achotjan
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Yeah,I figured that out.I will update ROM.It will be fastest stock ROM.Anyone wants update?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tayub:
yeah i want updates , keep up the good work
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] InternationalPlayer71:
Yes..i like stock rom! :-)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
New ROM finished.Added Arc features.UI Improved.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jessielee:
Oxygenated GingerScape SEMOD

Sir alzbac, there a problem with this rom, i cannot open any contacts... this is the message i got... Sorry! The application infinie view (process.sonyerricsson.infiniteview) has stopped unexpectedly.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
New Version uploading ETA 50 min.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jianlinooi:
change log?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Arc apps,features..Added new tweaks...Theme..

After 1 hour of use it is very smooth and fast.I will keep this one for a long time.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tayub:
sorry to ask but is the oxygen setting working in the update

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the links are dead, can not download the rom

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the link start working again

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Bugs Report

1.the timescape app is not working and the volume in the setthing is FC.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Problem fixed.I will upload update later.

Uploaded.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tayub:
u r the best of the best alzbac

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one more thing if u dont mind the fb gallery sync is not working , is there any chance that is can work .
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
That is in facebook app?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tayub:
ok i'll chk it bur there is a problem with TS , the app is opening but its not updating the post or anything else..

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sorry to say but the FB gallery is still not sync..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Well if it is not synced i think thats app's problem.I'll check it out.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] BinaryXeroMedia:
Guys if.you want stock and all arc features working just use my Rom until he can fix this.

Also alzbak. You should credit the correct people for the work you added.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Well we all now credits.:D freex10 team for all what they have done,zdzihu audio lagg fix..u for arc apps... Everyone knows credits.

This ROM is created because of speed.I didn't like my previous rom cuz it was too laggy.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] robertberma:
I tot FC NY volume settings. Please help
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jessielee:
The application facebook extention

Sir alzbac, after i flash your first update this is the error i get every reboot...

Sorry! The application facebook extention(process.sonyericsson.eventstream.facebookplugin)has stopped unexpectedly

how do i fix and remove this message on every reboot? thank you
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] aZuZu:
People every day new "rom" cult pops up... I was, i'm and i will always have freeX10 from Z as my PRIMARY ROM ... a lot ideas and fixes was taken from that rom since days of FROYO... and you start fight about launcher and does it have 6 or 7 screens... SHAME ON YOU! Got outside and stare in SUN or SOMETHING! :P
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] -PiLoT-:
Thread Re-opened

Please behave people
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] whitest0rm:
Hi alzebac jw but have u any idea why when i install the rom it installs fine but there is no home launcher or lockscreen? I can see a green background and can still access the notification bar but that is all,

Please, i want to try this rom but need some help :) thanks

By the way i am currently running wolfs v6 rom with an unlocked bootloader :) cheers
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] AR123:
I get FC if I open a contact in Phonebook. Any fix for the blurred Timescape Message/called contact photo. I love the theme though!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
U get FC for facebook event stream...Next saturday I'm back and hopefully new version will be out.Would u like some Ice Cream Sandwich mix?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] AR123:
Yes, but not in the theme. I like the theme the way it is! And the FC I'm getting is when i open a contact..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] AR123:
And maybe you could edit the ''taskbar'' a bit lower, bcause if i get a message from example whatsapp the logo is exact at the bottom/line of the tasbkbar.

If that, and the FC is fixed, I would use it for daily use, because I love it!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
I'm planning 2 versions.Basic and Ultimate.Basic-all SE apps,some 2.3.4 apps..

Ultimate-Lots of free RAM,Fast,Smooth,Simple,New Design.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jianlinooi:
ultimate wv 2.3.4 apps !!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jessielee:
Sir alzbac, when is the ETA release of the New Basic and Ultimate rom? thanks
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
Today/tommorow.Should I add Ice Cream theme to ultimate?I'm currently working on IceCream theme.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Asadroid:
ICS please
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Time Machine:
dude any chance to get them green icons when connected to google servers? those are really nice and somehow have a real utility over things like the icons in the scroll-able notification bar

anyways i just flashed this rom, been using your galaxy s2 rom for quite some time now and i wanted something new so, let the fun beging :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alzbac:
New Update

I need report.This should fix FC for facebook...I flashed this and when opened InfiniteView first time it ended with FC...I tryed 2nd,3d...and now it is not crashing.

After reboot first time it crashes but then it's ok.

http://www.multiupload.com/HXVYPWQIGQ

Please report.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jessielee:
Still the same... nothing has been fix

Sir alzbac, i just flash your 2nd update fix and this is the message everytime i reboot...

Sorry! The application Facebook extention (processcom.sonyericsson.eventstream.facebookplugin) has stopped unexpectedly. please try again. so far nothing has been fix... thanks
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Time Machine:
i just went back to your [ROM]Touchwiz Gingerbread Update 1[15/08]+ Cyanogen Lookv2 [16/08]

i had a bug when using the brightness icon, it just turned screen off as if i were locking it, screen goes black, you get the 'lock screen' animation, try to unlock one time, doesn't work, second time you get the option to unlock screenn, as random as it seems it IS very annoying

also, looks like the status bar does really NEED to use the space you used to put the 5 colored line, as cool as it looks, it really gets on the notifications way, besides of that, i really LOVED the transparent layout when using the camera, can't really wait till this ROM becomes final

:D

currently using this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1213389
[Other TouchPad Development] BodenM:
WARNING, DRAGONS AHEAD!

IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW, BY INSTALLING THIS, YOUR WARRANTY IS PROBABLY VOID! I won't be responsible if your TP bricks, needs doctoring, catches fire, skins adorable puppies and kittens, BBQs your "crown jewels", eats your children, starts WW3, explodes or commits seppuku!

[YOUTUBE]2O2RtQYKN1k[/YOUTUBE]

​

Special thanks go to:

jcsullins - The guy who made all of this possible by creating moboot, and he created kernel patches that fix the weird-ass framebuffer glitches, and he made the userspace touchscreen driver. This guy is a f**king GENIUS!

jeanfrancis - pointed me towards better-initramfs, as well as showing me some code on pointing that initramfs to an LV.

crimsonredmk - showed me the Arch Linux documentation for the TP, and wrote the original instructions for getting Arch Linux on the TP, which I have taken and adapted.

The CyanogenMod Team - For creating CM7, and getting it working on the TouchPad.

perpe - made a working rootfs to get it booting while I was busy :)

Installation instructions: http://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/wiki/Installation

Apply to join the dev team! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGJYWDJJbUNKT0ZlanZSVVB4aElTZHc6MQ

CHANGELOG:

Alpha 0.0.4:

- Kernel panic on boot issue should now be fixed
- Location of sys files changed

Alpha 0.0.3:

- Added userspace touchscreen driver
- Hopefully fixed kernel panic on boot

Alpha 0.0.2:

- Patched framebuffers to prevent color and mouse cursor glitches
- Released kernel sources

Alpha 0.0.1:

- Initial Release
[Other TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
awesome, cant wait :)
[Other TouchPad Development] scrizz:
Once we have Ubuntu, we can run any distro we want.

:D

thx BodenM
[Other TouchPad Development] Moon2:
Just one thing to say - Nice!
[Other TouchPad Development] Stryder5:
Looking forward to some updates!
[Other TouchPad Development] Daughain:
Thanks! This is something I have been waiting for.

Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
[Other TouchPad Development] BodenM:
New post on blog with a quick explanation of how moboot works, for those interested.
[Other TouchPad Development] BodenM:
Looking for a kernel dev right now to assist in merging the patches from 2 kernels into the Ubuntu ARM kernel.

-- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
[Other TouchPad Development] .NET Ninja:
Nice project. I hope this is gonna rock.

I'll ask someone who's really a brain about help - will inform you about that.

Good job pickung up the project so far.

KR
[Other TouchPad Development] kevina90:
Guys, the OP knows how to travel through time. In his blog, he writes

The date of the post is november 30, 1999

He knew of the touchpad back in 1999 :eek:
[Other TouchPad Development] PykaTux:
Nice

Ubuntu's first release was on 20 October 2004.
[Other TouchPad Development] docnas:
You have entered the twighlight zone tooodoo doodoo tooodoo doodooo

EDIT im wondering if anyone under 20 even knows about the twilight zone?
[Other TouchPad Development] scrizz:
lol, many young people nowadays don't know about the good stuff.

:D
[Other TouchPad Development] BodenM:
I'm 15 and I know about it :D

-- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
[Other TouchPad Development] scrizz:
i bet you googled it.

:D

hahaha
[Other TouchPad Development] Divine_Madcat:
There's something the wing... some... thing..!
[Other TouchPad Development] mattmartin77:
16 and if I didn't, my dad would shun me lol. The movie was what got me interested in zippos. I can do that trick perfectly.

Anyway, is there an update on Ubuntu with moboot?
[Other TouchPad Development] BodenM:
Not at the moment, still working on the kernel.

-- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
[Other TouchPad Development] mattmartin77:
did u end up finding someone to help with the kernel? maybe the cm people could help.
[Other TouchPad Development] Domskibus:
Wow! 11.10 NATIVELY would be awesome.

Thanks for your work!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] raptor1969:
Hi to everybody; i would like to know which is the best rom to have plenty of memory free with 2.2.1 and with 2.3.5.

Thanks to everybody!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] nitrobg:
The FroyoMOD for 2.2.1

CM7 for 2.3.7
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] thre3aces:
Like what nitro said. But if u want the list free ram use TELUS lite. Thats what I used when I had my milestone
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Babis_ECE:
Check these two threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1252344

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290941
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Blitzz666:
I have The froyo mod ..it's 2.2 but i've changed from golauncher to ADWlauncher...and it's very fast i've came up to 102 mb free (max i've succeded)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] BoyBawang2:
Thats big! Is that with JIT off?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Blitzz666:
me2 :) 112 mb free :) with adw,no messenger,no facebook and no youtube app.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Blitzz666:
it was on.now i'll give it a try with jit off.will post some feedback ;)