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[Epic 4G Android Development] jm5503:
Anyone having issues sending rather long SMS messages? The recipient just recieves a bunch of characters....
[Epic 4G Android Development] counterfeit187:
yes and the answer you seek is buried within the pages of this thread
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Which means: Follow xda's rules and search before you post. Most questions have already been answered.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jm5503:
Sorry guys...I just saw a ton of pages and was hoping for a quick answer ...I'm away from a computer and using the xda app.....srry
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Ok. The answer is look in the messaging apps settings, and select split messages.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
what is with people taking the time to respond and not answer the question? i understand xda rules, but asking someone to sift thru a 300+ page thread is bs. sure there are a lot of repeat questions, sure it makes a long thread. too bad, this thread is already long. plus, if you're gonna respond to tell somebody something unimportant like "search the thread" then you're just making the whole thread that much more full of irrelevant posts. if you're gonna enforce the rules, include yourself and don't be part of the problem you're complaining about. if you're gonna respond, at least include the answer to the question in your response.

(flame on)
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
You know what I do? Read the whole thread. Yep, the 300+ pages. Gtf over it. Xda is a fountain of knowledge, that's drying up because everyone keeps throwing their stupid questions into it.

sent from my always aosp epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] rulyskull:
Damn straight.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shermanballz:
Maybe someone not busy developing this thing can be put in charge of the OP and do up a little FAQ.

Back when there was a build every day that would have been difficult, but I think right now it would be doable.
[Epic 4G Android Development] FrankyFiggz27:
yet another probably wasteful post...but for every Rom thread in the Development Section, there should be a corresponding Issue/Question thread in the General or Q & A Section, and the OP should refer/link everyone who has general issues/questions about their rom to their corresponding General/Q&A thread right off the bat. This should be common practice.

I agree that this thread, as well as every other Android Development thread, has gotten cluttered. And I am by NO means saying I am not a cuplrit (cuz I am). Just a recommendation that could be helpful. Keep the Dev section for devs and downloaders, and the General/Q&A Section for inquirers.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
ya, me too. i read the whole thing for my benefit. that doesn't mean everybody has. it's nice to be helpful instead of condescending about it. if u can help, awesome! that's great of you. if your help is "read the thread" then you're just making it longer by one post.

i know u do a lot on here and i'm not trying to get in it with you. it just seems like it's a lot better to read the same fix for the same problem every 3 pages. it's annoying as hell to see "search the thread" 3 times per page
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shinydude100:
+1 to this. And plus, if you don't want to read 300+ pages, GOOGLE it with keywords to your issue, this XDA thread is sure to arise.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Rules are rules, idc if they're noobs and don't want to search, or if they are just lazy. If they sign up for an xda account, they MUST follow the rules. Your logic is flawed anyway. If people searched before posting like they should in the first place, this thread wouldn't be 300 pages long already. Thus, negating the "this thread is too long to search through" excuse. Also there's a saying about teaching a man to fish vs giving a man a fish, I'm sure you've heard it. Honestly, do people even think before arguing anymore?
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
look, i'm not trying to be all mr. spock logical or anything, but the truth is that people aren't gonna read the whole thread. u can deal with it nicely or noisily. u don't have to debate me about it. if u don't believe me, there's proof in that in every thread that gets big there are people *****ing about the thread getting long instead of just answering and keeping it helpful and simple. in fact, there are more posts that read (paraphrased) as "search the thread" than there are repeated questions in any of these obnoxiously long threads. i respect u guys and your opinions a lot. i've seen u be very helpful, and i'm not necessarily referring to you. all i'm saying is that "search the thread" is less than helpful.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
Evil monsters

sent from my always aosp epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
As suggested earlier on by nubecoder, perhaps someone should poll together the most asked questions and make a thread in this section or even Q/A and ask it to be stickied regarding problems and fixes for CM. That way it'll be easier for people to go look at the OP there rather than go through this thread.

I do feel for the people who are new to our phone, and don't expect them to read, but sometimes some reading has to be done for the sake of personal understanding. But if someone were to go do so I'm quite sure the newer people would be quite appreciative of it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
I know marcusant was trying to get it updated, but I haven't looked at it recently.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bdbc:
Not to mention the search function on both the tapatalk and xda apps might as well not even exist since they suck so bad...
[Epic 4G Android Development] christophocles:
We finally have decent web browsers in our mobile devices and everybody wants a stinkin' app for every random website or forum they frequent. Just use Dolphin HD or Opera and you can search all day long :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Android Development] AmericanJedi001:
Personally, I prefer dedicated apps for three reasons: A) the formatting is often better, even when compared to mobile web versions, and 2) dedicated apps usually cut down on downloaded data since the "framework" is built into the app (my 3G is often very slow). D) The UI is usually cleaner and easier to use.

(Yes, I'm aware my list numbering is a bit nonsensical--it's from a movie I watched today. Can anyone guess it?)
[Epic 4G Android Development] yochaigal:
Does anyone know of a CM-compliant kernel that works with Galaxy Sound Redirector?

I would LOVE to use my fancy CM phone with the Samsung Car Dock - and I cannot without a simple modification to the kernel + Galaxy Sound Redirector.

The relevant kernel code.

I've been made to understand that the CM team in general does not support this modification; if Deca, et al do not wish to I understand - I just wish I knew of a ready-to-use kernel that does!

Thanks, this ROM is amazing!

PS I've posted this before but never received an answer.... should I be posting elsewhere?
[Epic 4G Android Development] bdbc:
Not to mention the fact that it is an official xda app. That level of involvement in the app naturally comes with expectations that it at least be moderately functioning. The app has certainly improved in the past year, but search function certainly has not. You would think with all of the whining around here about searching that it would be looked at.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sureshot007:
Or, you could stop whining, offer to help fix it, and keep the off topic out of this thread. I'm another one that reads the whole thread to make sure I keep up to date on the development. After a weekend of being away, I come back to several pages of new posts, only to find out that it's another bunch of people asking the same questions.

Give a man a fish....
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
if u wanna keep up on development, u ought to be on irc. only very rarely is there ever active development on xda. this is a forum, a place for questions. not everyone that downloads and flashes this is gonna read thru the manuscript of irrelevant crap questions and off topic banter. this is where they got their stuff, so this is where they're gonna ask about it.

give a man a fish when he's hungry and he'll eat it and shut up. try to teach a man to fish when he just wants to eat and see what happens.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Three pages of non-development discussion from mostly veteran members. The search issue has been beaten to death. Just answer the damn question, kindly point the guy to the search button and let's get on with our lives.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shermanballz:
Do you know how many times I've searched google and found links to forums with answers that say, "search google"? It's very frustrating. Same crap here. If I searched this thread to find out why video wasn't working would I actually find my answer or would I just find a bunch of people telling me to search the thread?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Phasma343:
I google searched from my phone and the first hit was the correct post. Hey... there is an app for searching things too.

While I agree it can sometimes get irrelevant if this was 3 or 4 years ago on XDA a moderator would have warned him and deleted his post for not seaching.

There seems to be an influx of people that just want to be spoonfed answers. And I am not just limiting this to XDA. The other forum I am on much more frequently is just as bad, as are others. The more senior people and people that seem to have critical thinking skills tend to have the mind set that they need to at least attempt to figure stuff out on their own.

The internet is killing critical thinking.

Development is in this forum. IRC is just one place it occurs. Dunno if you sit on IRC but alot of it is worthless banter and not development.

There is just as much technical discussion happening in this forum as there is on IRC IMO.

Your quote is very appropriate for this situation. To go with it: Give a mouse a cookie and he will ask for some milk.

If we start to spoon feed everyone then they will expect it and it will become the norm.

---------- Post added at 10:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 AM ----------

You need to work on your google skills then.

http://bit.ly/upDz5m

First link.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xopher.hunter:
STFU!!!!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
I was close to going there early, thank you for that Xopher lol. :)

Seriously though to others, make another thread outlining the issues and the solutions to them, rather than devoting time complaining about the fallacies of the search system on this site or on the app you could be of more benefit compiling a list. Otherwise this back and forth is going to continue to happen. It literally is always something every 5 or 6 pages.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] Devtodi:
yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup!
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Soooooooo, MTD is getting much closer to being finished, if not already 100%. Which means official CM7 eventually after that. Which means w00t!
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Exciting times. Much gratitude to Deca and every other dev that has worked on this project. Even Noobl :p.
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
I hope people put as much effort into getting laid as they do in typing out these long winded answers to beaten to death topics
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Word! I was thinking the same thing..... people take this xda and phone ish too seriously
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
The man will starve, and we will no longer be troubled by his whining? I hope so, because feeding the helpless jerk isn't helping - he just asks for more (because he still doesn't know how to fish), and I worry that he'll start asking us to wipe his ass next.

The irrelevant crap questions and off topic banter that you refer to is the same stuff that the proponents of searching are trying to eliminate - most of it stems from someone refusing to search, and then throwing in some useless banter while they're at it (may as well, so the post looks more full and worthwhile, right?)

Back in the day, these forums would have sat, dormant, until the developers had something new to bring to the masses. Our ADHD society doesn't handle that dormancy very well, but if they did... you would arrive at the forum to find only useful information - on all THREE pages :)

(the other 300 pages wouldn't impede your searches - BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T EXIST!)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Phasma343:
Actually this is a very valid point. I just did a search to find the original Cyanogenmod thread from when I had a G1. Only 91 Pages in the thread. I don't recall people asking questions that had been covered many times.
[Epic 4G Android Development] know.patience:
I suggest we create a separate thread for CM7 Q&A and leave this thread purely for development talk, similar to what they do in the the Nook color forum. I'm not a dev but I would be glad to contribute on the support side.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Looneyrat:
Hey... No one answered my q. What makes this room sound the best? Besides having audio manager. This room has the best sound for car stereo. Bass is soo clean and deep. I tried print voodoo sound and audio manager on other rims but non come close like this roms sound. Why?
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
It's likely due to the fact that our audio stack is not necessarily sounding how it should be currently which is why Voodoo Sound is being dumb on our AOSP roms, so the phone is outputting flat sound and your car is outputting the bass and the treble and in some odd way they compliment each other, giving you the sound you like.
[Epic 4G Android Development] InfDaMarvel:
That sir would require to much effort. 1 mouse click to many.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xfreshboimariox:
Sorry To But In

i made a threadd for questions, feedback, etc...

to answer anybodys questions about what they are going through

by that meaning i would take the time and search for your questions answer on this thread and post it on the other

Deca if im doing anything wrong then just stop me but heres the link to the thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1378362
[Epic 4G Android Development] danherbert:
I'm willing to create/maintain a Q&A thread and wiki page for known CM7 issues for our device. The 300+ pages we have on this thread right now is obviously too much to expect people to be able to search through effectively.

I recommend a wiki because it would make major issues easier to document as well as easier for the community to keep up to date. Also, a wiki would scale to handle known issues much better than hundreds of pages of difficult-to-scan-or-search forum posts.

I don't think a wiki can work without a Q&A thread being maintained as well that people can post new questions to. Otherwise we'd end up with users posting technical questions on the discussion part of a wiki page.

If no one as any objections I'll create a wiki page, plus a Q & A thread in the Epic 4G General forum. I'm open to any other ways we can approach what is obviously a long-running problem for this ROM as well, if anyone has any other ideas.
[Epic 4G Android Development] noobnl:
I smell fresh MTD Gingerbread laced build coming soon!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Stop teasing!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Looneyrat:
Oh no. its not that. I can tell you the audio output from this rom is 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times superior.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
THX 4 Update ! :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] counterfeit187:
Wimax has already been claimed to be last on the list, and wifi has had increased stability added. For me the thing that I miss most with this rom is the overlay for video recording. I still use. It as my daily, but can't help regret missing a few video ops.
[Epic 4G Android Development] meats:
why not use the cyanogenmod wiki if thats where we are heading:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
[Epic 4G Android Development] sgtkwol:
Since MTD has been mentioned a lot here, qbking777 has posted a youtube video in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1380148

This will clear up what MTD is and isn't and and will have you further salivating over MTD gingerbread.
[Epic 4G Android Development] danherbert:
That sounds like a good idea. I think the FAQ section would be best to use, since there are already device-specific troubleshooting sections there. We can simply add another section for our device.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Looneyrat:
Damn... Why sound so good on this rom?

Also, is wiimax getting looked at, al all?
[Epic 4G Android Development] atavarius:
For the 3.4 billionth time. LAST. ON. LIST.

Yes. In order to switch from MTD-CM7 to another non-MTD ROM you will have to Odin.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
He knows. He's being a troll, like always. Haven't you read his other posts? Half don't even make sense or are calling other people trolls.

Sent from my Samsung Epic using CM7!
[Epic 4G Android Development] o0oXDAo0o:
Just curious but has anyone tried other modems or kernels with this rom? Anything work, would that fix the 4g?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Looneyrat:
Nonsense! I can't keep up with the constant chatter here. 4g should be on the top of the list for the gazziluanth time.

But someone needs to answer my other q. Why the sound sound so awesome! No other rom comes close! I can have the trebble all the way up and the bass all the way up while keeping the audio very low and it sounds great. Deep bass wuth crisp trebble. I need to know asap!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Phasma343:
ROFL, you know nothing about sound if you have it EQ'd like a BOSE stereo.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Looneyrat:
Mind you, I an very observant. And those cm7 rom has the best sound. No one else notice it? Are your ear canals all filed with ear butter? Qtips! Use them!
[Epic 4G Android Development] JudasD:
Since it doesn't have 4G they were able to use all that extra memory space for DSP code. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Why would they add 4g when wifi is unstable and you cant call 911 or take videos?

Sent from my epic that didn't have CIQ before it was cool :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] vista178:
Tomorrow's (Dec 8th) muh birthday. CM7 EpicMTD would be an awesome birthday gift... Thanks devs for all that you have done and continue to do!
[Epic 4G Android Development] xboxfanj:
double negative. Not unstable. If you meant it is unstable, then I agree with your statement
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
LOL, sorry, im tired...
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Idk why people say wifi is unstable for some of them still. The only thing I have to do if it doesn't work is toggle it off and back on. Works like a charm. Then again, it could be because I'm on EH17 modem still...(don't ask, just never got around to updating it lol)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Mine just DOESN'T work... I tried everything. I have to steal ei22 TW files...
[Epic 4G Android Development] amirite:
Yeah but... that is instability...
[Epic 4G Android Development] ac16313:
That is not instability...

That is inconsistancy...

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G Android Development] StoneRyno:
Since updating to the 11/24 build (wifi repack zip) I've been using the EC05 modem since I didn't bother to flash a newer one than it after odin of the EI22 with EC05 modem package. Since it appears to be working good I figure no real need for me to try a newer one though I may do so eventually. But anyways the point is that wifi is quite stable for me 1 out of maybe 20 times turned on it has to be turned on again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] XtaC318:
This right here ^^

The WiFi IS Stable, whether or not it connects on the first activation is the problem. Sometimes it enables, sometimes it doesn't. Annoying yes, tolerable; most definitely.
[Epic 4G Android Development] kstephens98:
It is only stable because Stock files were used. To my understanding, the team working on this was trying to stay away from that sort of thing. But hey, works for me anyway.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Decad3nce:
The mtd build is fully ready. Fixing some legacy things then ill upload when i get back to my apartment.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
SWEET !!!!!!!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] steveo314:
AWESOMENESS!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] adamdelozier:
That's why, my friend, you are one of the elite!
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
Dude, just shush.

Yeah he is, also it's coming in time, last minute things to be ironed out and people can try MTD out. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] gremlyn1:
On the Wifi issue...

I am one of those having ZERO luck connecting to WiFi. I am using the 'WiFi fixed' 11/24 version on EH17 modem. I just took a logcat and put it up in case it might be helpful:

http://pastebin.com/HJgBwyNB
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
MTD is exciting, can't wait for cm support, and ics, and everything else!
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
The only thing with MTD is you won't be able to switch to EXT4/RFS roms unless you use Odin. I mean, it won't be a big deal once every rom is switched to MTD, but for the meantime, it's going to suck for those who love to switch roms and don't have Odin available for them.
[Epic 4G Android Development] gremlyn1:
Does the new FS switcher in CWM5 not help us with that?
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
MTD is a partition map itself. And no CWM5 can't help us go back to BML(partition map) and no update.zip in general can. BML is proprietary and there isn't a means to get the tools Samsung has to be able to emulate the repartition to BML through CWM. To be vague-ish. All we have is Odin and the victory pit.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sgtkwol:
Once you are on MTD, the only way back to BML is through Odin. No ifs, ands, or buts. Just like with the Fascinate.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tdwp16:
Lol the same thing said multiple times
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
Ah, i left out the 1.5ghz overclock didnt I? lmao. also, with uber_quadrant i get 4.8k

I know, i chose it because its crap lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
Are you all Stable at those speeds?
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Haha ok lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
Yeah...suprisingly. Tegrak and the values from some thread thats probably now buried
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
I just realized none of the TW4 widgets work with cm7....now I'm starting to regret this :'(
[Epic 4G Android Development] str8addicted:
overclock

SetCPU my max is 1.0ghz..... did i miss something... how do i overclock
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
I remember the values, I don't have the paid version unfortunately lol but CM7 even in the Alphas has done better being overclocked than our releases.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
Tegrak can overclock for you

sent from my cm7-ified epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
u must have no idea or concept of what cm7 is lol :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Well I was hoping I'd have more customization.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
No voodoo control plus :(

sent from my cm7-ified epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
custom pull down widgets, TONS of themes and lockscreens, choice of where apps install, accelerometer rotation settings, custom behaviors for home, menu, and search key, fine tune performance... i mean c'mon! what more could you ask for when it comes to customization?!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
DSP Manager is quite nice. I edited the bluetooth settings for bland bluetooth headphones and the sound came out a lot better.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
It is, but MIUI is more customizable.