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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CyberPunk7t9:
Do you really think that's all to the Transformer Prime compared to the Original TF1?

The TF201 has a quad-core SoC performance, an upgraded camera with CMOS sensor, thinner, lighter, upgraded IPS+ display, longer battery life, will probably get ICS OS before anything else.

I'm especially excited for the new sound system, I had a little Acer laptop before with a subwoofer and those things do wonders in the sound coming out of a portable device.

The TF201 will have large speakers compared to all other tablets, and a sub-woofer to produce those low frequencies.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
Dec. 16 is the day????

www.phonearena.com/news/Asus-Transf...scheduled-for-December-16-says-Amazon_id23996
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
www.phonearena.com/news/Asus-Transf...scheduled-for-December-16-says-Amazon_id23996
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
that's supposedly the day canadian amazon is quoting people as well. simultaneous north american launch? that'd be great since my order says shipping after the 25th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
It appears, according to the product manual and photos, to have a large speaker (singular). ie. monaural sound, not stereo.

So it's louder, and (when the dock is attached) bassier, but it is in other respects a downgrade from the original Transformer.

Not to mention they've put the speaker in an even worse position than was previously the case (pointed directly away from the viewer, and exactly where you're most likely to be holding your Transformer in landscape orientation, whether with a single or double-handed grip.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Novarider:
When you die please will your tf101 to me :)

Almost All phones have the speaker on the back its the only place to put a speaker unless you want to sacrifice screen size. How often do you use the speaker on a tablet? If you watch a movie wouldn't you rather have better sound through headphones or an external speaker?

If they gave it great speakers it would have to be thicker. I don't know about you but I would rather it be skinnier and lighter then have great sound.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] silverwings2008:
I had a reply to my question to Asus UK about release and they have quoted 16th Dec for UK. Fingers crossed its true, but not holding my breath!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
And over Twitter they are saying that the Prime comes early January...

http://twitter.com/#!/ASUSUK
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrKaon:
hi my friend

Do you know UK prices?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bøygen:
I totally agree with you on that.

The tablet is not going to function as a music or sound system without external speakers anyway, so to prioritize good speakers over small size would be a bad decision.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nook-color:
I don't need HI-FI sound as much as I need some volume. Also, prefer to have speakers on side vs the back of tablet.

My Nook Color works fine for screen, but the sound, even with Nook Tweaks is a weak point in the tablet. Whether listening to music, a youtube video, or audible .pdf's and gaming; you need volume to hear the content and headphones aren't always an option.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EP2008:
Considering the poor experience I've had with the TF101 (defective speakers, massive light bleed and now more screen issues, battery drain, etc.), I'm going to sit this one out. If another manufacturer can come out with a tablet and keyboard dock, I might jump ship and go to them.

This was my first ASUS product, and I'm not impressed at all.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
It's multimedia device, a mobile device, a device you might watch with someone else, a device you might use in bed with your head on a pillow or listening to when doing something else.

You can't possibly thinking of caring some big external speakers with you along a mobile device. And wearing a headset isn't always confortable (like in bed or while doing something else) and futhermore can't be shared with someone else.

I think, more than anything else, Tablets are the kind of device in wich you need the absolute best sound output possible (in this size limit), The sound of the TF is okayish but I'm really happy to see that Asus is going all in on the Prime sound systeme, that means they really understand what a tablet is for.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I think we need to wait and see what the experience is like. ASUS is touting improved sound, and is branding it with their SonicMaster moniker. I can't imagine them diluting that brand if sound isn't at least improved over the TF.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
First hand on (on the web site http://ztop.com.br/) told the sound was greatly improved from every other tablet on the market right now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] colonel187:
Just my $0.02

I sold my ipad2 for an android tablet. The thing about ios is that its so locked down you can't really do anything useful with it. Its just a toy, where android is actually useful. Here are a few examples.

ios

has the camera connection kit (sd card/usb ) adapter. All you can do with it is import pictures. Usb devices can only be a camera and only certain ones. Same with sd card, only pictures. Jailbreaking allows you to buy a $10 file manager that will let you use the sd card only. But it sticks out so far its very inconvenient.

Can't side load apps.

No in app purchases, that I blocks a lot of app opportunities. Ruins kindle store. No free app a day amazon store.

Android tablet...

First thing I did was download a dslr remote app. I plugged my camera into the usb port and had a fully working remote capture tablet app. Great news for photographers, every android tablet has a way of getting usb.....

I can plug any device I want into the usb on my tablet.

Side load apps.

In app stores.

Sd card expandable.

No required virus programs like itunes.

Those are just a few off the top of my head.

You think you have bootloader lock down woes, wait till you get ios ...... jailbreaking does nothing useful.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EP2008:
You must not have had ios 5 on your ipad. It makes things WAY better.

Side loading apps - that's for pirating apps, right? Can't blame iOs for not allowing you to do that!

SD card expandable... that's a matter of how you use your tablet. For the tens of millions who own ipads, 16 or 32gb is more than enough memory for THEM. They don't have a need for an SD card.

Itunes is also no longer required.

You can do in-app purchases on iOS... for a long time actually. Not sure how you missed that.

Anyways, iOs and Android are two very different systems. I love my ipad for the fact that it's super-stable and allows me to just pickup and go. My Android tablet on the other hand crashes often, requires rebooting and is generally more useful if I'm going to be using it for a while. Both devices offer pluses and minuses for different people - iOS certainly appeals to far more people than Android.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Um, no, that's for having access to ANY app that isn't approved by Apple, including entirely different ecosystems. No reason to assume it's for pirating apps. Consider that on Android, we have access to multiple (perfectly legitimate) app stores (e.g., Amazon, Getjar) and thus have many choices in who we buy (or get free) apps from. Apple customers are limited to whatever apps (and content) Apple decides to allow.

I agree that both platforms have their advantages, but this one stuck in my craw a bit...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] _terror_:
I'm totaly on your side. But can we please stay to topic? and skip all this Android vs. Apple bull****? please?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] colonel187:
Guess you haven't been keeping up.

Steve jobs put a stop to in ap purchases before he died. Only thing ios5 did for the ipad was tabbed browsing and a split keyboard.

I've done more in the first day of owning a DROID tab than I could on my ipad2, many of which wasn't even possible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] colonel187:
Sorry. Im done.

Gamestop shows 12/9 as the release date
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trekkie1701:
£499 for 32GB tablet and dock according to a post on Asus UK's facebook page (in a reply to the £299 offer ad on Monday).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Why the heck am I getting release of date for Best Buy 12/18 if Gamestop is 12/9 might have to switch over to Gamestop...

Edit: Canceled my pre-order at Best Buy for Gamestop release date 12/9!

Gamestop is extremely busy (Server busy). It took me 30mins to finally get my order placed and confirmed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
Compared to a tablet, phones are tiny and have limited real estate to put anything. Both generations of Transformer have adequate room for partially or fully front-ported speakers, in the huge black border that surrounds four sides of the LCD.

Very often. If I am using external speakers, I'm not going to watch a movie on my tablet. I'm going to watch it on my desktop PC, or on my TV. Most of the movie watching on my tablet is either in bed, or away from home (a hotel room or other.)

As for headphones, that's fine when there's only myself watching the movie. Plug in a splitter and two pairs of headphones so my wife can watch and the volume is too low to be usable on a first-gen TF even when maxed out, unless we use powered headphones.

That doesn't explain why they decided to port the speakers away from the user (thus reducing the volume and especially the treble), rather than towards the user. Changing the porting direction while having the same exact speaker would improve the audio experience to the user, with absolutely zero effect on thickness.

And frankly, the first-gen Transformer is already the exact same thickness as an iPad, which I didn't hear anybody whinging about the thickness of. It's plenty thin enough for me.

Improved in what respect, though? Personally, I'd rather have stereo sound, than louder speakers and algorithms to boost audio levels for speech.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrKaon:
I've asked for Transformer Prime :cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trekkie1701:
Yep, that was for the prime. The first thing people did when they posted that ad was ask about the prime, it's in the comments.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EP2008:
I don't understand. Can you define in-app purchase for me, because maybe I have the wrong idea, but in the last week I've been able buy the full version of an app within the app and I can also buy stuff like game money and items for a game character within the app... isn't that what in-app purchases are?

Edit: Here's an ios programming tutorial for adding in-app purchasable to your app. Last updated mid October, two weeks after Jobs died. http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/NetworkingInternet/Conceptual/StoreKitGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CandyNJ66:
Nonsense, Steve Jobs did NOT put an end to in app purchasing as anyone here with an iphone or iOS device can tell you. Freemium games are constantly at the top of the charts and rely on them.

Have no idea why that person told you this, but he/she is simply incorrect
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Perhaps the confusion is around in-app content purchasing. Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Kobo, etc., pulled the ability to purchase their ebooks and such from their iOS apps because of Apple's revenue sharing policies. That means, however, that people who want to purchase ebooks from anyone other than Apple has to do it from the Web and not from within an app.

It's mainly an inconvenience intended to make purchasing from iBooks more attractive.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EP2008:
Perhaps for books it's different, but I know my wife purchases People Magazine in-app all the time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
This is true. As I own an ipad. In app purchases are still working fine. Very easy to do and not confusing at all. Easy to rack the bill up if you don't keep track or let kids make them w/out restrictions.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DANIEL133337:
I hear Dec. 9th is the scheduled release in America (Canada & US)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DANIEL133337:
December 9th is scheduled release for America (Canada & US)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Game stop will be selling them Monday
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] markimar:
i can confirm the Monday the 28th just got off the phone with gamestop confirming my order she said its shipping on Monday! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vaanhoot:
I got an email from Best Buy Canada telling me my expected shipping date has been changed to Nov 29, 2011 instead of December 5, 2011 as when first preordered a few days back. Looking like it might be released on November afterall.

Sent from my SGH-I896 running MIUI.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] markimar:
yup looks like someone was correct with Nov 28th date! I'm so excited getting it Tuesday with my overnight delivery. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] delpiero223:
Anyone able to send me a screenshot from best buy's email?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vaanhoot:
Here ya go.

Sent from my SGH-I896 running MIUI.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] delpiero223:
Thank You very much! Embedded to my blog :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jerdog:
I have merged two identical discussions on the TF2 into one thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] codeman05:
Hope your right, BB is telling me something quite different :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
Yeah mine is still showing the 18th on BB website
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vaanhoot:
I'm from Canada and maybe less people here preordered or something. The actual website says it is being released on the 29th. I hope they actually do release it on the 29th here.

Sent from my SGH-I896 running MIUI.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
Interesting forum bug: When you merge the two threads, it doesn't update people's read markers. I was wondering why it was showing pages of stuff (including my own posts) as being "unread"; now I know why.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] coolbomb:
Hi guys,

Do you guys know whats the best place to pre-order this beauty in Europe?

I have a pre-order on amazon.de (I live in spain), but I'm starting to wonder if I made the correct decision now that I'm seen release dates close to 11/28 (US) and I'm still dont have news from them.

Any comments?

Regards
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
Some news for Australian users:

Today I emailed a rep from Harvey Norman.

A few hours later (which is pretty good service for a weekend imo):

Make what you will of it.

In hindsight, I should have also asked about the price...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nook-color:
Gamestop has changed the Release date on their Website

from:

11/28/2011

to

12/9/2011
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PatrickVogeli:
shouldn't you be able to get the pad+dock combo for 600$?? At least in Europe we get that pack for 600€, I guess you should get it too in the states.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gogol:
When will this be released in The Netherlands?!!!!

I can't wait any longer :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] coolbomb:
Would you please provide the site for that?... or you just looking at amazon?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darrenjdoc:
Returned my Galaxy Tab 8.9 earlier to HMV. Just was not happy with it. Really dislike Touchwiz on it. Prefer vanilla honeycomb.

It has a better screen than the Transformer and a little lighter but apart from that nothing really.

Looking forward to the Prime when it gets to UK/Europe :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] spalding1028:
I preordered mine from amazon because I got their "special financing" and I still have yet to hear about their release date other than the rumored december 16th :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DANIEL133337:
I knew it was to good to be true! :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vonslydog:
I saw rosco64209 post this over in the preorder thread, but it was closed before I had a chance to respond, so I thought I'd mention it here.

The same thing happened to me, and I freaked out, thinking that by "changing" my order it might have bumped be to the back of the line as far as pre-ordering. So I did the online chat followed up by a phone call to make sure they hadn't done that. The woman on the phone, and her supervisor, assured me that this wasn't the case, although the guy on the webchat wasn't so sure. Anyway, on the phone they assured me that the January date was just a placeholder, and it would be updated as soon as the official release date firmed up. She said to check on Thanksgiving day to see an updated release date. I checked, and it still says Jan 6th on there (mine is the 6th instead of the 9th because they gave me free one day shipping because of my "inconvenience." Squeaky wheel...). She didn't give me what they expected the real shipping date to be, but she definitely said it would be before January.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] StuMcBill:
OT I know but.....

You seriously have the same taste in devices as I do, I remember when the HTC Desire first came out, and now the Galaxy Nexus and now Transformer Prime! :D

We must have the same Android addiction! :D:D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jmt230:
The same happened to me (already posted about it). Today, just as a test, I went into my order and changed the shipping to "Two Day" and my estimate changed to Jan. 10th (was 9th with one day). Then I changed it again to "Standard Shipping" and the estimate disappeared. I changed back to "One Day" and the estimate is still gone. So, either I got bumped back (that would be stupid of Amazon if the case), the delivery estimate is just an artefact of the web design or placeholder, or the people at Amazon are effing with us... :D

I'm not phased by the closer shipping dates of other sites. It doesn't make sense to me that Amazon would get it a whole month later than them - especially with all of the folks who preordered through Amazon. Can't wait to get it though...

Has anyone mentioned that the thickness of the prime+dock (~17-19mm) is comparable to the thickness of a Macbook Air (~17 mm), and the weight (~1100g) falls right in between the 11" and 13" Air (1080g and 1350g, respectively). Of course, the processor isn't as powerful, and the screen and memory aren't as big, but, still, I think that's pretty impressive! The air also doesn't have gorilla glass and touchscreen or as long a battery life (7 hrs for Air, potentially 18 for Prime!), and the Prime is half the price!

Prime may be both an Air and iPad killer! :cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] axepted:
Asked Asus when it will be released in Norway, and there was not set a date for the Nordic market yet :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vaanhoot:
I checked on my pre order from best buy and the date was pushed to Dec 5 from Nov 29 today. :(

Sent from my SGH-I896 running MIUI.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tkj1973:
I just preordered the Transformer Prime 32gb from Newegg. Release date is Dec 8th according to them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] droidx2.3.3:
So it seems as though the consensus is around December 9th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Dr.Mcq:
pre-ordered from future shop Canada... release date is December 5th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vaanhoot:
Yeah same with best buy Canada. Don't get your hopes up though cause it said Nov 29 yesterday.

Sent from my SGH-I896 running MIUI.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gogol:
Haha, most probably yes, except I am using Nexus S now :)

The Desire is with my wife. Preordered Galaxy Nexus.

I skipped all Android tablets because I dont really like Honeycomb and Tegra 2.

But now, the Prime is good, more than good enough. Especially ICS is promised.

Originally I would like to wait another Google Nexus tablet, but I read that ASUS is very good with update. So all set, money is ready, just sell me one!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] StuMcBill:
I am still on the Desire, getting a GN in March when my contract is up - going to get a Transformer Prime to tide me over with some Ice Creamy goodness! :D

I had a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, got a bit annoyed with Tegra 2's lack of power, and in the end I had the "newtons ring" issue, so returned it to the store.

From the looks of it the Transformer Prime is going to be a hell of a tablet! :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrGiggles:
Lots of hope. I just hope it can be rooted and get custom Roms
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chickut123:
I preordered mine at Best Buy on thursday. It said the release date was the 18th and I bought express shipping and it said to expect it the 19th... Am I missing something???
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
can you give me the link for the preorder from newegg..i just can't seem to find it for some reason.

update: never mind i found it...but where do you see dec 8th?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Still kicking myself for not ordering from Amazon. Won't order from Newegg because of their restocking fee and the fact that I live in SoCal and so will be hit with 8.25% sales tax. Grrr...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xTRICKYxx:
I preordered from TigerDirect. I got a backorder reply the next day... I hope they will get restocked soon!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
newegg also charged me 11.26 for shipping. total of 510.26.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jonboyuk:
So I'm in the UK and I want to get one for Christmas. I can't see it coming out here to Jan, do you think it's plausible that I get a friend in the US to buy me one and send it over in time for Christmas?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] droidx2.3.3:
Yeah. I can't see why not. But depending on what day it comes out here( in the US) and the shipping time will determine if you will get it on time
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrKaon:
And you should consider import tax as well, it happened to me when I bought satnav from US.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkeyboywa:
it's nice when you give you're old hardware to your mom as a present (original 7" gtab)...it gives you more ammunition to buy a new replacement...especially when you say you need it. ;)

so pre-ordered mine on newegg...too bad they didn't have the champagne avail.

it seems all the pre-order sites offer pretty much the same thing..but it seems as gamestop is the only one that adds a few xtra games for free (and you can buy the game controller for 39)

*tips hats to other pre-order adventurists..*
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sabspave:
I hope its not after the 16th of December

I just pre-ordered mine from Gamestop with overnight shipping; according to that, I should expect to have it 12th December
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ravynmagi:
Sure wish Amazon would come up with an estimated ship date other than "after December 25th". Seems like everyone else in the US is saying Dec 8th or 9th. Wonder why Amazon is the only ones that don't know?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jleewong:
Gamestop order verification called me Friday and made sure my address, phone number and billing address was correct, I asked if they knew when my package would arrive.

I was told that it is scheduled to be shipped out on Monday Nov 28th, and because I have 1 day shipping I should receive my package Tuesday Nov 29th!

I really hope this is true! I ordered what was said to be the early preorder bundle, Transformer Prime + Bluetooth gamepad.

I will take a photo and let you all know if I do indeed receive my Prime this Tuesday. :p

Mmmm the sexual amethyst grey prime!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] juvenile43:
just ordered one (champagne) from best buy and it didn't give me a date till the receipt and that said order will ship out dec 16th. If that dude gets his on 29th i'm gonna be bummed. also does anyone know if best buy is taking preorders other than what they will get their first shipment. What i mean is amazon cut off preorders does best buy do the same or just keep u in a list till they get more inventory ie. second wave?