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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jocelyn:
Despite what I've said earlier, I swear that I hope tf2 is out in nov. cuz I'd love for anyone who's waiting for one to get them then. The problem is every single story linked above is from the same single source linked below. Retailers posting product pages months before they were in stock happened with other tablets last spring, it happened with Samsung's Galaxy wifi 5.0/4.0 back in June, and it happened with Fermi's release as well. Again I'm hopeful this news is true, but I'm very doubtful.

http://www.tabletowo.pl/2011/10/11/exclusive-asus-eee-pad-transformer-2-za-537-juz-7-listopada/

Edit: Also if you click on the retailers link in the tablettowo.pl story, then click check stock it says, and I quote

"OOPS. We have run out of stock - more expected on: 07/11/11", but who has ever heard of this retailer and why does one place set precedence. I could understand if it were perhaps Amazon.

I would love to know how the above statement, proves the end of the original story. "Furthermore, TF201-1I020A was priced at £537.85 ($841) and will release on November 7th."

http://www.lambda-tek.com/TF201-1I0...RD-3-GOLD-EN~cs/B734790&viewSpec=y#productTop
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smackdownn:
****........! I ordered a thrive yesterday...damn it!

Should I cancel my order?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] meltedmoops999:
Yes. The thrive is an overpriced thick tablet with specs equal to the TF. Why wouldn't you get this or the TF 2? Updates seem pretty frequent with Asus also.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smackdownn:
actually in india its the exact same price and the thickness is fine because it has full sized usb and full sized SD reader.Are you sure the TF2 will come in november? coz even if its jan-2012 ill get the tegra 2 device now and will later sell it and get the tegra 3 one!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
the other day..newegg was offering the thrive for $399 with a $70 gift card. But i know i wouldn't be satisfied getting that once the tf2 came out so i just decided to wait.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Paran0idAndr0id:
I wouldn't go for the thrive, be honest the thrive looks and feels horrendous. Also don't think there will be a tf 2 release this year. Not at least in Germany. So if you'll don't mind waiting for the device and don't want to shell out premium then maybe opt out for the budget tablet hannspree hannspad till the tf 2 is released
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
the thrive is now $379.99 on newegg with a $80 promotional gift card...thats $300 wow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jocelyn:
Update from the original source page " Information cancelled at the request of Nvidia Poland. Stay tuned for more information about Nvidia Tegra 3 unit and Asus Eee Pad Transformer 2 tablet."

http://www.tabletowo.pl/2011/10/11/exclusive-asus-eee-pad-transformer-2-za-537-juz-7-listopada/

Rofl, much to do about nothing Nov. 7 imo....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] droidjens:
If release was less than 3 months away, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. My guess is we'd be ranting at the gazillionth person making threads about official release date being set and leaked specs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
?? english please?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jocelyn:
Its right in the article

" English version:

Information cancelled at the request of Nvidia Poland. Stay tuned for more information about Nvidia Tegra 3 unit and Asus Eee Pad Transformer 2 tablet."

They took down the old article which had much to do about nothing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dante8205:
I think he was talking about the rofl nothing to see nov 7th imo part
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] untravel:
what version of Android will be installed at transformer 2

ICS or Honeycomb?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] phoenix573:
ICS, that's why it was marketed to be the first quad-core (or rather quint core) ICS tablet. It would be pointless for Asus to launch it with Honeycomb just as ICS is about to be released.

Nvidia and Asus are trying to cover any leaks of information for this tablet before ICS is announced, so we can expect to hear all the details and a confirmation of the release date (let's hope it is Nov 7th) at the Conference in Hong Kong next week.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leonpr:
Haven't read all the pages but am I the only one who thinks they won't be releasing the tab 2 until we have Ice Cream Sandwich and Asus has had the time to iron out the bugs that come with it?

We all know the big issues with the last batch of tabs wasn't the hardware (as they all ran the Tegra 2) but the newness of Honeycomb.

edit: Well the last couple of posts talk about it so nevermind :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] untravel:
Remember the first tab whith 3.0 - moto xoom. When software is debugged during the year
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leonpr:
Exactly, the issues on release of the xoom was one of the reasons that the thing flopped and also why so many people had bad opinions of Android tabs/Honeycomb in general... It was an extremely bad move and I'm sure they realised it as well and hopefully won't make that mistake again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mi7chy:
Makes sense that it would be announced/released around 11/7/2011 time frame just in time to maximize on the Xmas window of opportunity.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GizDrak:
Some other places to pre-order.

http://www.ecost.com/

http://www.pcconnection.com/

http://www.pcmall.com/

http://store.onsale.com/

http://www.compusa.com

http://www.circuitcity.com/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Looks like ASUS is getting ready to break this thing loose...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htowngator:
Nice, I'm hoping Best Buy does pre-orders soon. I want to get it through them for the points and return policy.

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Circuit city, Tigerdirect, and Compusa are all the same group now anyway.

The others seem to be charging more than $499 for their orders.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] digimuzik:
Anyone know if you can cancel a Tiger Direct pre-order without penalty before the thing ships?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smashingblue:
Not letting me pre-order.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
Problem is, most folks who have no problem won't report it. Hence what seems typical probably is only so amongst known problem tabs. If you look for lemons on a lemon tree, you'll find them. :-)

What I can say is that none of the TF's I've personally purchased (five of them, I believe) has had any such problem. Small sample, but likely no less statistically valid than in the thread you mention...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
The interesting thing to me here is the model numbers.

* TF201-B1 for the 32GB models

* TF201-C1 for the 64GB models

Note that there's no TF201-A1. I could see this meaning one of three things:

* Asus might just have an internal naming schema that reserves A1 for 16GB, even though there's not a 16GB model. That seems unlikely to me -- why would you establish such a schema in a series that only has one (soon two) products?

* Some markets might get a 16GB Transformer Prime, and hence the TF201-A1 designation will be reserved for those markets

or...

* Maybe there will be a 16GB Prime in most markets, after all. Maybe they're reserving that TF201-A1 model until they sell through the TF101 16GB and 32GB stock that's already manufactured and sitting on store shelves (ie. they're not actually continuing to make the TF101 any more, and are only calling it a current product to help clear stock.)

Holding back the cheapest version of your new model would help clear that stock, and would also push early adopters to choose between the 32GB and 64GB only, believing there to be no 16GB version. (The psychology of supersizing means many of those early adopters will buy the 64GB as the higher-spec model, when they'd have gone for the cheaper 32GB model if they had three variants to choose from.)

Then a few months down the road, Asus adds a 16GB version at a lower price tag, once the early-adopting's done and the TF101 stock has sold through. Makes sense to me, and I've seen plenty of companies do similar things in the past.

This seems quite likely, to me. I would not be at all surprised to see a budget 16GB Transformer Prime shipping in the US market in six months time...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
The official product page has gone live.

http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201

Meaning....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
Looks like hopefully the same charger, HDMI adapter and SD/USB adapter, so at least a few of the cheaper accessories remain usable with the Prime...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
I hope it has a charger that doesn't melt...

Sent from my x10 running TEAM.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
Nice, Asus put a litte work to update Honeycomb's systempanel on the homescreen - new Widgets, new Power Modes. Nice work.

Oh and here the manual: http://www.multiupload.com/0I563BTOU8
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
Someone is having fun !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HZpCetaQdc
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GizDrak:
It is back up on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] johnrclem:
Anyone find the dock?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dandmcd:
Bestbuy.com for dock ,but only in the gold color so far....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Keyboard+Dock+for+Asus+TF201+Transformer+Prime+Tablets+-+Champagne/4222113.p?id=1218467193768&skuId=4222113&st=asus%20transformer&cp=1&lp=7

Damn, that dock looks sexy!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
Do my eyes deceive me, or is the built-in speaker now monaural, not stereo like that of the TF101?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
Well I guess it fixes the speaker imbalance issue lol

Sent from my x10 running TEAM.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
You know, it's weird, but it does look like that. However, ASUS lists it as a "stereo speaker" and they're touting the quality of the sound (and they're quite good at it in their notebooks). So, it's a bit confusing overall.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] digimuzik:
I thought the huge grill was supposed to be some sort of cooling vent, but the manual clearly lists it as the 'audio system' ...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Lots of little bits in the manual, such as there's now a charging LED on the tablet itself, and there's a "Super IPS+ Outdoor Mode" that has me pretty excited. Also looks like they added search to email, which is nice.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] songmeesay:
Not sure if this has been posted but a vid of ICS on the Prime. He says the video playback is of a High Profile 1080p video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a57s2FVw2nk

edit: oops, looks like it was posted in the hands on prime thread. My bad.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sib64:
Last news:

ASUS Transformer Prime Pre-Orders Start at Amazon

You can pre-order your Transformer Prime here:

ASUS Transformer TF201-B1-GR 10.1-Inch 32GB Tablet (Amethyst Gray)

Or if you prefer:

ASUS Transformer Prime TF201-B1-CG 10.1-Inch 32GB Tablet (Champagne or Amethyst) => $499.99 = 372 €uros

ASUS Transformer TF201-C1-CG 10.1-Inch 64GB Tablet (Champagne or Amethyst) => $584.22 = 435 €uros
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jeyopo:
According to my sources, Asus eee pad transformer prime will be released near late december.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TrailorParkKid:
And who might your sources be?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
I'm wondering if this Super IPS+ panel is basically a four-dot-per-pixel design, which are starting to become a little more common. The idea is that as well as the standard red, green, and blue subpixels, you also have a white (or sometimes yellow) subpixel at every pixel location. This extra dot significantly increases luminance without significantly affecting color. (With no color filter required for the white dot, there's a lot less light loss). That characteristic can be used either to increase brightness (aka Outdoor mode), or decrease power consumption by dimming the backlight (aka Indoor mode).

There are a few different types on the market that I know of. Samsung has PenTile RGBW displays, Sony has WhiteMagic RGBW displays, and Sharp has QuadPixel RGBY displays, I'd be surprised if there aren't others.

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Yes, very. There's certainly no other speaker locations or ports shown in the manual, and that single location isn't mirrored on the other side, so I don't see how it can be truthfully stereo. It could be *technically* stereo, ie. they have separate left- and right-channel speakers side by side in the same location that would provide zero real-world stereo effect, I guess. That'd be pretty skeezy though.

In the absence of better information though, I'd guess stereo refers solely to the headphone output, or is simply a typo, and the Asus Prime is now a monaural device in terms of internal speakers.

That's a very definite downgrade, and it's equally disappointing that they've not improved upon the original, awful speaker locations. (It's still exactly where your hand would be, either for a left-handed or two-handed hold. In fact if anything it's a little worse than before -- previously I could sort of 'cup' the TF101 in my hands to support it without covering the speakers, but now the only option will be to hold it uncomfortably at the top on either side, or hold it at the base of the screen in the center. The natural hand-hold, with one hand on either side near the bottom of the display, will cover the speaker and make it harder to hear.

Hopefully they'll get their act together in the TF301 if it ever gets made, and put the speakers where they belong -- on the front, on either side of the LCD panel, towards the top of the tablet, so they provide stereo separation, don't get covered by a standard handhold, and are aimed at the viewer's ears.

:-(

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Oooo -- built-in folder support. That's probably the most significant update, if you ask me. (I can now uninstall MobileJeong's Folder Application Pro app -- woo hoo!!!)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
I think it's only a mistake. They write on their product page that the Prime has "stereo speakers".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
Which is more likely, though? That they mistakenly didn't draw the speaker grille on the detailed diagram of the Transformer (which likely was based on the original CAD drawings, with simplification and prettying-up for the end-user), or that they mistakenly wrote "stereo" in the manually-written--likely hand-translated from Chinese--spec sheet rather than "monaural"?

As somebody who deals with draft / final product spec sheets and user manuals all day long in my day job, I'm going to guess that the diagram's not wrong. Almost certainly if there's an error, it's in the spec sheet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
Even in the manual they call it the "built-in stereo speaker system". ;)

And this is the speaker PR-Slide:

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2548215/asus-transformer-prime-press-shots#2545360
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sib64:
According your sources ?

...and what are your according sources ? :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Does anyone know a place where you can also pre-order the dock however? For international delivery.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Thing is, ASUS has quite an investment in this whole "SonicMaster" thing. They'd not cheapen it by putting the label on a really bad sound system.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
The earlier hand on by Ztop stated that the sound was "loud, clear and sharp".

So that's either a mistake in the manual, or a very clever way to provide great sound with only one speaker hole.

The third possiblity is that Ztop was lying but it seems unlikely
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] digimuzik:
Maybe it's the mythical 'subwoofer' :D

Anyone recognize speakers in pics from the teardown?

http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/2011/11/02/asus-transformer-prime-gets-torn-down-kal-el-pictured/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] knoxploration:
It's an easy typo. The pictures and the manual match; there is NOT a grille on the other side:

http://androinica.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/asus-transformer-prime-2.jpg

I'd noticed that previously, and assumed there was another speaker grille (perhaps two) that I couldn't see, and that possibly this grille was for some other reason (cooling or other) and not even a speaker.

Now we know for sure that this is the speaker grille, and we know there's not a corresponding one on the other side. That leaves only four possibilities:

* The Prime is monaural

* The Prime is stereo, but one speaker port is much smaller and not shown in the manual (which would lead to unbalanced stereo effect)

* The Prime is stereo, but one speaker is unported and must work through the physical chassis (which would lead to poor treble on one channel, and probably to unbalanced stereo effect as well)

* The Prime is stereo, but both stereo speaker channels are located on one side of the chassis under the same grille (which would lead to effectively useless stereo, with no separation whatsoever, especially when the speakers now point directly away from the viewer.

On your two links for the slide, note:

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/2239417/Transformerslides7_gallery_post.jpg

There is no use of the word "stereo". They do mention the word "speakers", but that could easily be a typo, a reference to the fact that there's supposedly now a subwoofer in the dock as well, or a reference to the audio design involving more than one speaker (tweeter, mid, and/or woofer).

My read is that almost certainly, the built-in sound on the Prime is monaural.

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It's quite possible they've switched from a mediocre stereo system to a good monaural one.

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Loud, clear, and sharp don't mean stereo. They mean loud, clear, and sharp. There's an easy way to provide great sound with only one speaker hole. You provide monaural sound, not stereo. There's no need to assume anybody's lying.

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The mythical subwoofer is said to be in the dock, not the tablet. (Ie. you only get use of the subwoofer when docked.) We'll see if that's true or a misunderstanding. At this stage in the review process, product reviewers are nearly totally reliant on information provided by the manufacturer, and that's frequently wrong, due to simple misunderstandings and mistranslation of material provided to the local agent for the manufacturer in a different country.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
Anyone else notice how jerky the 1080p video demo seemed to be. The guy said it was flawless and very smooth. Hopefully the jerkiness is to do with the conversion to YouTube rather than the actual device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dandmcd:
When I watched that video the video sample looked completely smooth just as he described. It must be your video playback on whatever device you used to watch.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GizDrak:
Had Amazon combine my dock order with the tablet order using there friendly chat people.

and sadly this is what he said...

Matthew, I have combined the orders. The total amount is $649.18. Estimated delivery will be Jan 24, 2012 because the ASUS Transformer TF201-B1-GR 10.1-Inch 32GB Tablet (Amethyst Gray) is a special order and this will be shipped as soon as this will be available.

Jan 24 hopefully they just do not really know when they will get it and they are padding there times.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trekkie1701:
Just noticed this on the ASUS UK Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/asus.uk)

Gutted! Was hoping and praying it would be available here at US launch. :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sib64:
Not for the moment

Sent from Philos DS using xda premium
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
What a fail. So they announce the Prime before Christmas, kill their christmas business and bring a produkt in a month in which nobody is buying new stuff. Wow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DarsVaeda:
That company seems to be completely out of anything especially order!

I mean first they say that the Prime is delayed because of ICS.

But ever again there pop those posts of employees up that say it will come this and when and will definitely be ICS upgradeable.

How does that even fit?

Why is it really delayed then?

Or is it?

They did a great job at making possible customers mouth water. But now they seem to do a much better job at making them angry ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
People, ASUS hasn't yet said a word, officially, about when the Prime will ship in the US. Absolutely not a peep. So, they can't be "late" or "early." And, it could very well ship tomorrow for all we know.

Wait until ASUS says something. Then get yourself all wound up about it if you like.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hedgegod:
This is what I got from Asus UK support yesterday:

Thank you for your email.

According to our information, the sales are expected to start at the end of November/beginning of December.

Best regards

Alexander

Asus Support Team
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] idontknowu2:
Bestbuy preorder is up. My order gas a release date of 12/18
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
Sure sales have basically started today. When they ship them out and when we get them in our hands is something completely different.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dandmcd:
Lol, Digitimes claimed the Prime was "delayed" for ICS, not Asus. I love when Digitimes rumors become facts, so cute.

No one within Asus has committed to a release date and has never even announced when it may become available. Hell ,they haven't even officially announced preorders have began yet, the website links are still dead.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htowngator:
Plan on pre ordering in store at BB so I can get it on release day, not a few days later.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sib64:
You can pre-order the keyboard too in Amazon

Asus Transformer Prime TF201 Mobile Docking - Champagne (TF201-DOCK-CG) for $149 = 110 €ur
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DarsVaeda:
Too bad they officially said so in germany. Go back troll elsewhere.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] _terror_:
does anybody know if prime will be released with nordic keyboard (with our letters Å, Ä and Ö)?

It's a big dealbreaker for me :P if not, i won't be able to chat (and facebook stuff) with my swedish friends ^^

Does the current transformer come with Å, Ä and Ö (if you buy it in sweden of course). Does anybody know? Because if it does, i'm sure that prime will aswell.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CyberPunk7t9:
Glad to see Atrix 4G forums mate wanting the TF201 too. :p

I'd say the Prime will be released somewhere between 9th to 16th Dec. More likely the 16th (Sorry folks).

A sum of a lot of rumors and speculations I read here and there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chatch15117:
IM GIONG TO DIE WITHOUT MY ICS :(:(:(:(:(

I NEED ICS ROM OR SOMETHING for my tf
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
If you leave an ice cream sandwich on top of it on a hot day, you might get ics leaked to the circuits...

lol im so funny