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[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
All we need is for MapQuest to port their app to WP7. That wold solve all problems. Those who actually need online maps can still buy Navigon.

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I don't want it, and I'm not buying it.

I thought I made that quite clear...
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Efjay, I think you don't understand the point.

I refuse to pay such a high price to get 44 countries, when I will need only 1 or 2.

First, I am not used to waste money for something useless (43 countries).

Secondly, I am not ready to waste one third of my previous phone storage, just because Navigon decided that I cannot download country maps separately.

Now if Navigon releases a Regional version of their soft,

by country

, with a

decent price

I may reconsider my position.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
But the EU

is

a country! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] species5618w:
Then why are you in this thread? You have all said it, it's not worth the price for you. Fine, we all know that now. I don't think a Rolls Royce is worth its price either, but some people consider its price to be in impulse buy territory. If all the people who are not going to buy it have expressed their opinions, can we get some peace and quiet and read a real review on the performance of the product please?
[Windows Phone 7 General] welshbloke:
Navigon

I got the application yesterday and besides having to connect it to my PC to ensure it downloaded the files it whent smoothly.

The application itself is fine but with 2 observations one of which is a killer unless it is resolved.

1. UK issue - It only supports partial UK postcodes. Whilst a pain this would not be a massive drama if I could then complete the address.

- Address 1 house number with street name with partial post code = Success

- Address 2 Partial post code, City unable to locate street name although I did manually discover it on the map = Fail

- Address 3 Partial post code, City, Road, unable to locate business as not listed = Fail

- Address 4 Partial post code, City, Road, unable to locate business as not listed = Fail

I did also try Google local search for one of the businesses which found the business but had the wrong street name = Fail

2. Using contacts - This proved hit and miss even though the postcodes appeared in the contacts in the same format it sometimes found the address whilst other times it just generated a random postcode sort of in the area. i.e. PO3 became PO1 bizarre and this = Fail

For the record the price is fine obviously if you never pay for anything and get everything via the Grey/Black market then yeah everything is to much for you.

For others indicating that it is cheaper to buy an online version please feel free to travel around Europe and when you get your data roaming bill I will be interested to hear how much cheaper you feel it is now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lbp775:
Purchased it last night and had it download directly to the phone through wifi. Fell asleep and woke up with it successfully installed. I used it coming in to work today and I'll have to say that it worked pretty good. I really like the lane assist feature. Tracks well on the map and is responsive. Entering in addresses is a little clunky but for offline maps I can live with it. Of course this is just for a short ride to work and I haven't used any of the other features yet so i'll reserve judgement till I get more usage out of it. But initial thoughts are positive.

On a side note, I don't see why people are complaining about their phones having 8-16 gigs. You bought it knowing that was what it had and should have done more research to know that it's not upgradable. I don't complain to the manufacturer if my tv is too small for my living room. I simply replace it with one that big enough or make the correct purchase the first time through research.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
In the UK the Omnia 7 is only sold with 8GB. I did all the research I could and learned that:

a) the German Omnia 7 was the only one with 16GB

b) there was no phone with 32GB or even upgradable memory

Following that I went ahead and

imported

a German Omnia 7 hoping that

a year later

I could find a device with more storage.

So yes, I did the best purchase possible at the time and if neither Samsung or Nokia comes up with 32GB soon (HTC hasn't) I'm allowed to complain.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lbp775:
Dell offers a Venue pro with 32GB (although it may not have been available when you made your purchase) and there are no windows 7 phones with upgradable memory. (Thanks to Apple??)

Don't get me wrong, I agree that they should offer phones with more storage. I have an 8GB Dell Venue Pro. I have about 25 games/apps installed and 15 albums along with Navigon (US maps take up approx 1.7GB by the way) and I still have 2.7GB to play with. I do not have any movies loaded and stream music with Zune Pass whenever I get the urge to listen to something that's not loaded. Could I use extra space on my phone? Yes. Does having 8GB render the phone useless? Nope. I'm perfectly happy with my phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
At the time the DVP wasn't available in Europe full stop and the 32GB is only being sold in the US anyway.

I won't blame Apple for phones without expandable memory because at least they compensate by offering 8GB, 16GB, 32GB and 64GB iPhones.

I used to have a Zune HD but it was like having the same device twice so I ditched it to store my music on my phone. Their idea is that Zune users should move to Windows Phone but how can they do that with only 8GB and 16GB offerings?

I quote:

Between apps, games, podcasts and music I never have 1GB free on my phone and it's not like I wouldn't like to upgrade to another device with bigger capacity; I want to but I can't because such device doesn't exist.

So if 8GB is enough for your needs good for you but you shouldn't come here claiming that people shouldn't complain when they have every right to do so.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tessut:
I think it's too expensive
[Windows Phone 7 General] lbp775:
So a person who bought an 8GB has a right to complain because they bought an 8GB? There's nothing stopping said person from buying a different platform that has all the qualities they're looking for. I like windows phone but I wouldn't buy one if it didn't satisfy all of my needs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The DVP wasn't available with 32GB until several months after it was released. They didn't start offering the 32GB model until they started offering the model with AT&T 3G bands in it, which was quite a while after it was first released, not to mention it was delayed more than once due to issues, IIRC.

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You got it wrong. The person bought an 8GB phone because it's the only device that was available on their carrier. Either 8 or 16GB, both of which are inadequate for a lot of people. There are WP7 games that are 2-400 MB in size, nevermind Podcasts, Music from your personal Collection, Zune Pass Music and downloads, Videos, Apps, videos and pictures you take on your phone, and data from other applications which can get really large i.e. Kindle Books cached offline, and PDF files in the Acrobat Reader "Hub."

You're completely neglecting the people who simply didn't have a choice.

It was either:

1. Get an 8 or 16GB WP7 device

2. Get an iPhone

3. Get an Android Phone

4. Get a Blackberry

5. Get a Nokia or Feature Phone

Obviously Microsoft wants people to choose option 1, so why did they not make sure more OEMs put out 32GB models. The OEMs don't care what type of phone you buy. Samsung is just as happy with you buy their Galaxy S II as they are with you buying their Focus S. They don't care. Even then, they put 8GB in the Focus when their Galaxy S phones all shipped with 16GB in the US. Clearly they didn't care.

And the HTC Radar is coming with 8GB, Lol.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Wow I cant believe the feeling an average user will get with an 8GB phone (like all europeans besides the Germans :) ) which is actually 6GB, and than have your pictures on it and a couple of songs. Than you spend your money on this app after realizing you can not do anything with it because you don't have enough free storage on your device :D no refunds nothing!

Why not let the user download parts? I mean I live in Holland, why would I need whole Europe for the occasional couple of times a year I travel to South Europe... I understand its nice for people who work abroad and travel a lot, sure, but than you could let them download the other country they need and remove it when they dont. 2,3 GB is just ridiculous on a 6GB device...

But this has been said over and over again :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] welshbloke:
GPS Tuner

Well I guess GPS Tuner will release its offline map version in a few days using Navteq maps so it will be interesting to see how they deal with the map size issue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Man that sounds like a big plus for finding dual-sport trails and fun muddy spots. Sweet !
[Windows Phone 7 General] boysie:
I too used it going to work this morning.

The voice BOB is very funny UK accent and I had to change.

The voice is louder than music playing via BT but is not changable in volume. So Loud music = louder instructions. kinda of anoying when you know where you are going :) but it has a mute button.

The screen on landscape is smaller than i expected due to an odd bar on the right and a kinda letter box effect. I have HD7 so want full screen not some slilly trophy size output.

the gps tracking and recalculation was very quick when you went a diffrent way. A bit slow working out you had pulled away from the lights.

Instructions were very clear and maybe even to many but it is in the right area.

you dont need to touch the screen to get any thing read out its automatic.

bad point is:

you want to dial out, using well any thing, you have ot exit the app. and then start again from the start.

If you have your address book synced to a remote device like a head unit then it will call and accept calls with out exit but you can not use the main phone screen to find a contact or you will have to start your navigation from scratch.

you can receive calls and make calls with a exteranl BT device and listen to BT music all at the same time as navigation. works very well infact. although i woudl liek to adjust the vol of the navigation compared to the music which i could not find an option to perform.

Boysie
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Man, I couldn't say it better.

This is exactly the problem.

Even the Titan is coming with 16GB storage only, and no expandable storage!

Consequence: I will not buy it.

I am still waiting for a 32Gb wp7 phone. Shall I switch to Android???

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Now, I can say it:

It's the new "Turn by Turn Europe" by GPS Tuner, with offline Navteq maps.

I am currently testing Beta 4 (thanks to GPS Tuner, a great developer)

It works great :) :) :) Fantastic

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You get a list of all European countries.

You select only the ones you want to download/update.

For instance, Navteq map for France (+ Andorra an Monaco) is 476 Mb only.

It includes POIs.

Search engine works very well since it automatically suggests the correct address after you typed the first letters....
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Wpcentral's review says it supports fast app switching, did you use that?
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
I just wish someone knew the answer to my big question. What happens when the maps are out of date? Will people have to re-purchase the app, or will there be a reasonable update path (and by reasonable, I mean better than the ridiculous map upgrade prices that Garmin and Tomtom charge)?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
No one answered because no one knows. Maybe it automatically OTA updates them when you start the app and go into the area or something. Not sure, and probably never will be :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Turn by Turn Europe (soon released) has a list of countries to download or update.

You can select only the country you need.

If an updtae is available you will prompted and find the update in the list of countries (if I am correct)
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
FYI anyone thinking of buying Turn by Turn now and expecting an update to the offline version, it wont be happening. Asked their support and they state the new version is seen as separate and the current version wont be getting an update. Buy it if you really want it, but not for any other reason.
[Windows Phone 7 General] naplesbill:
I think your best answer will come from Garmin. I suggest sending them a message with your question(s).
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Turn by Turn and Turn by Turn Europe are indeed two different apps.

There are not based on the same maps, as TbT Europe relies on Navteq maps.

Mainly, the search engine is so much better on TbT Europe (search suggestions while typing). POI are great also.

Turn by Turn (online maps) was a bit weak with respect to the search engine for addresses and POI in my opinion. Whereas, I find the TbT Europe absolutely fantastic. :)

But you are right, I feel somehow cheated to be forced to purchase a new soft everytime GPS Tuner improve it.

I already purchased Outdoor Navigation (that I'm not using anymore), the Turn by Turn Online maps.... Which will become useless also once TbT Europe is offcially released :( :( :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
I also think the price wont be as competitive compard to Navigon. TBT Hungary by itself is listed at $31 whereas for $70 you can get the whole of Europe. Seems apart from the space issue (which can always be fixed later) Navigon will still be the better option for anyone needing more than one country. A TBT price of $15 per country with the option of a bundle for Europe would be better. Remains to be seen but I am just going to wait for Nokia World to see what they announce for their Maps program, then will decide whether to buy Navigon.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Where did you see this price?

It seems to me Turn by Turn Europe is not officially released yet by GPS Tuner.

As the regular Turn by Turn Navigation was only 4.99 €, I don't expect the new 'offline' version to be that expensive.
[Windows Phone 7 General] boysie:
yes you're correct, I was relaunching the app and forgetting to use the fast switch :eek::rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Go to MP and the Nav section or search for TBT, then look for other apps by them and you will see it listed. And just now searched and the US+Canada version is out for $28.99.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Yep. I just found the US+Canada version for $28.99, and when I click on the GPS Tuner link to see other apps from the vendor, it lists Hungary as available for $31.99.

I think, considering the price, I'd prefer Navigon since it offers a 3D view.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Yes, that's maybe a bit too expensive. I agree...

But I will rather chose TbT mainly because I cannot afford to lose 2.5 Gb of my storage...
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I think hoards of people will pass on this for that very reason. It's 2.5GB to download, but it may actually be more due to the way filesystems work.
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
According to this http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/garmin-demos-upcoming-mobilenavigator-for-ios-and-android-lates/ (sorry for quoting the king of anti-WP7 biased sites) their other apps will get updates to allow downloading the areas you want. Maybe that will be introduced to the WP7 version as well later.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Obviously, if Navigon releases a Navigon France, for a reasonable price (max 30 €) I am buying immediately.

Turn by Turn Navigation Europe works great but is finally quite expensive. Especially if it does not include Text to Speech for street names.

I hope Wmpoweruser, Pocketnow or Wpcentral will publish a comparison soon between Navigon and Navigation Europe.
[Windows Phone 7 General] go2mp:
Thank you for info
[Windows Phone 7 General] rbrsddn:
I purchased Navigon for my Focus, and can't figure out to import my contacts to the App. Any ideas? :)TIA
[Windows Phone 7 General] jpijper:
Contacts are on the main page, last item: contacts. Too obvious ? ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] rbrsddn:
I'm not blind. I know where the flipping contacts are. The problem is, none of my contacts are in there. I need to know how to get them in there...
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
Do you have any contact with address? :D What do you expect from Navigon - automatically get contact's address by phone number or email? You may add this feature request to Navigon's Q&A :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] rbrsddn:
I have no contacts visible. I emailed Navigon, but have not gotten a reply yet...
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
rbrsddn, try to add address to any of your contact in phonebook (you know, I mean street, city, state, zip, country :) ) and you'll see the difference ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] rbrsddn:
Thanks Man! Once again, the answer is too easy...:o :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ty67ty67:
Two features I have'nt been able to find out about with Navigon (and the two reasons I chose TbT when it was released) are:

1. Does it work in landscape mode?

2. Does it have an option to turn of the Lockscreen?

Answers to these questions from anyone who has installed would be greatly appreciated.
[Windows Phone 7 General] derausgewanderte:
1) Yes

2) I do not see a setting for this, but while driving and hitting power button, navigon resumes where it left off and gets new location and continues route.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Lockscreen is automatically surpressed for me while driving with Navigon.
[Windows Phone 7 General] derausgewanderte:
ok, I never paid attention to that. After a while of driving, not needing the phone, I hit the power button to save battery. Only when I need it again I hit the power button again and it resumes.

time to purchase a power adapter for the car :)

cheers
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
That's what I did shortly after I purchased the HD7. GPS + the large screen consume a lot of power. So I wouldn't even be able to perform a longer trip using Navigon all the time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ty67ty67:
Thanks for the info.
[Windows Phone 7 General] derausgewanderte:
wrong thread ;. btw. is there no way to delete my own post?
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Hi,

I am a biker and I need to be able to turn off the screen while using the GPS.

The device stays in my pocket and I only rely on vocal instructions, which is fine.

Could someone please confirm that I will not be able to turn the screen off with Navigon?

Many thanks in advance.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mr.Faithless:
Hey there,

I need the Path to NAVIGON select Premium Edition - v3.0.1321 Applications\Data\... to remove unnecessary maps to save space

can you help me please.
[Windows Phone 7 General] stead:
Sorry to bring back an old thread, but does anyone know how navigon update their maps?, I've had Navigon installer for around 8 months now, no update that I know of other than program updates.

I mean, are they free to update? the speed cameras seem to update free of charge as far as I can see. I'm really impressed with it, the routing engine for me is much better than tomtom from winmo 6, my biggest gripe is inputting an andress, doesn't pick up a few i've used it with but if I point it on the map its always there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dazza9075:
good question, they are free to update, in that it updates the maps when you install the app, I don't know if that just uses the same maps or newer ones tho... try deleting it and then getting it to download the new one.

depending on your device, if you have file system access you can manually update the maps.
[Windows Phone 7 General] stead:
Do maps work from other devices then? this may be the reason why I start modifying windows phone, until now i've been perfectly happy leaving it as MS intended!

Pretty annoyed about this reply I had from them

Find it really annoying, as when it works its by far one of the best sat nav's i've used, however I have come accross a problem when entering addreses quite a few times, the address is on the map you can locate it and navigate to it, but when you type it it, it won't find it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Funnyx:
I think the maps from Android and iPhone are the same as the ones from WP7. Direct update is not possible, but there's a program which you can use to fool Navigon when downloading maps. It's called NavigonConent or something. You copy the new maps into a folder and the program acts as a webpage for downloading them on your phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZetaZynK:
No, you'll always get the same, old maps - Q1 2011 ones I believe. However, if you can edit the IsolatedStorage (i.e. you've got it installed using an XAP with the signature removed or you've got a full unlock) then you can overwrite the .map files to achieve an update to newer maps. For this you need to get the appropriate Android/iOS map files (wherever you get these from). Then open up filelistBA.xml inside the NAVIGON data folder. This file contains a listing of all files with their respective sizes in bytes. If you edit the file to match your newer maps' sizes, NAVIGON will accept the new .map files - otherwise it believes it faces data corruption and will re-download the older maps. Finally, overwrite the XML file and the .map files. It might be necessary to reboot the phone first, considering NAVIGON could still be opened in the background and lock these files.

Note: do not overwrite other files from WP7 with Android/iOS files. Even though some of them match by name, literally no files of these are the same on WP7, meaning overwriting will render your app non-functional.

I believe NAVIGON does not permit downloading newer maps because they never do for free. On any other platform, fresh maps are a separate, subscription-based purchase - which would require an in-app purchase; a feature WP7 does not have and won't have until WP8. It's kind of retarded to be honest to pay more for NAVIGON than you would on Android and get fewer features and no new maps. While I understand their acting, I as legitimate NAVIGON customer feel a little scammed having paid 60 euros for an app I can't get map updates for.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ZetaZynK:
This changed now. Navigon 4.2 has been released. Not only can you purchase FreshMaps for 20 bucks now, it will also download the maps which were current at the time of your purchase.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] matusov:
Any one experiencing Gallery issues on CM 7.1? After each reboot any picture taken after rooting and flashing stable CM 7.1 the pictures are moved all the way to the end of the camera folder with an "Unknown Date".

The pictures themselves have accurate dates when i view them through the file manager. Additionally they come up acuratly though the QuickPic app.

just the Gallery does not seem to display them...

Any feedback appreciated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] matusov:
I think I solved my problem by flashing the gallery app from this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1019667.

Additionally this version seems to be much faster then the one in cm 7.1. It almost seems the same one as the stock app.

Need to do some more tests.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] matusov:
Never mind after power off all the new pics have unknown dates again. Back to square one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] matusov:
The only fix so far is using a different camera.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] konrad.schafers:
I have the same issue. Any help is greatly appreciated!!
[Galaxy 3 Accessories] anujsh:
Car Home/dock for galaxy 3 anyone having any idea does it exist for it
[Galaxy 3 Accessories] Skivit:
if theres no "off the shelf" solution, i was thinking of modifying a car window mount, anyone any suggestions?
[Galaxy 3 Accessories] Totroin:
I'm bissy to make a Car Mode