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[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
It will recognize it, but 4ext makes use of the sdcard (4ext.prop)

I haven't tried that personally and haven't yet received any feedback of users who did that. So I cannot say for sure without spending some time with the code or trying that myself which I really would like to omit :D

I'd suggest trying it out. Then we both know more :)

Nothing bad can happen..

If it doesn't, then just format before..
[HTC Sensation] n1ghtl1fe:
If WWIII happens cause this im comin for you. lol ill edit this to report back in about 20 min

EDIT: just formatted a completely non-partitioned 32gb class 4 with no issues. :D! thanks again for recovery and ur help
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
hahaha, good luck :)
[HTC Sensation] KingDavid63:
I try to open recovery section in app and it says due to licence problem I have to flash older recovery with different programming type ...
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
You need to have recovery version 2.2.0 flashed minimum (not older, newer) for the menu to work (it's all in the text)..

BUT you are using a Sensation and should have never installed a version below 2.2.7!

If you had read the first line when you tried to install a version below 2.2.7 it says:

"Sensation: only for reference (does not charge your phone), please use 2.2.7 rc2 or newer!"

Additionally I have made it impossible to install a version < 2.2.7 on the Sensation a few days ago though when I noticed that someone installed 2.1.0
[HTC Sensation] orymd:
madmaxx82, is it normal, performing a flash/backup/restore/etc, background is missing?
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
More info please!
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
Yes. It's that or progress bars. Or a smaller background pic with progress bars underneath it. I tried background, but the the progress bars are pushed down to the bottom.
[HTC Sensation] orymd:
Ok... turn on the phone into recovery mode, backup/restore menu, press restore and then a backup, the recovery performs the selected operation with black background, and not the nackground of the theme i've set...

When the recovery starts / navigate into menus, i can see the background of the theme
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Ahh I see.

When this is done, the icon changes. The theme must include an icon for that process. If the theme doesn't include an icon for that, it won't show you anything.
[HTC Sensation] orymd:
ok, i see... ;)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Yes a smaller pic is needed for that.
[HTC Sensation] jonata:
Hi,

buy from market ....

inly a problem : cannot install online because receive messagge no space in sdcard ... (have free more than 8GB ....)

install your recovery by bootloader ...

?
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Hi!

There might be another problem.

You can just click on download and flash it via bootloader.

But please join irc so we can check what's wrong.

I will send you a pm.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Ohhh, I guess you got this message: "Failure! The uncompressed recovery.img's MD5Sum is not ok! Please check your available free space!"

Is that true?

Then I guess you tried to flash a version < 2.2.7.

It is not possible to install them on the Sensation because they don't charge your phone, so I'm preventing installing them.

It's also mentioned on the first line if you click on a version below 2.2.7

Please flash a recent version like 2.2.7 RC5
[HTC Sensation] jonata:
hi,

try tio install the last beta ver and it works ....

online instalation ok ...

:o
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Good :)

Yes <2.2.7 are not for the Sensation :)
[HTC Sensation] jonata:
hi mad ...

where find the first theme (black) in OP ?

search but no result ...

tks for help
[HTC Sensation] gtrplr71:
So I noticed today after flashing AHRD that my theme went back to stock is there a way to prevent that in the future after flashing roms?
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
This theme was made by Amresh. He hasn't yet released his themes for the Sensation.

You might want to ask him if he would do it :)

His there is there: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1174097

Hi!

Yes, there is a setting called "preserve theme" you can set it via the app (recovery settings) or edit 4ext.prop manually (set themes.preserve to yes).
[HTC Sensation] gtrplr71:
powerful stuff thank you!
[HTC Sensation] alphawolf36:
I decided to give this a go as I was testing CT's 3.5 rom and it was in there. I ended up buying the app in market after installing the recovery. It is very awesome nice, I like the multiple install options along with the fix permissions after flash. Just makes it nice to just click what you want it to do and walk off the get a cup of coffee (or beer depended on time of day :D ) and walk back to it all finished! BRILLIANT!!!!

Anyway to get a download rom feature similar to ROM Manager? Sry if it was asked, as i type this I realize that i didnt search and will look thru aft :)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Hi madmaxx82,

Your recovery was a bit forced upon me by Mike1986 with his newest Sensation ROM version. I was a bit resistant in the beginning, cause I like to change my system on my own terms normally.

But I must admit, sometimes you have to be forced to your benefits :p.

You have done an outstanding work here. This is a thing of beauty and on a very high technical level. I congratulate you to that. I'm sure to buy the "big" app after the trial ends tomorrow.

Already made a theme for me, now gonna figure out how to theme the install screen too (hopefully with the help of whiskey).

Go on with the good work, way to go.;)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thank you very much! For that great feedback and for your support :)

Regarding app rom downloads: I'm hesitating doing that because it's the feature you would use rom manager for. As 4EXT is still based on CWMR - which I must be very grateful for - I don't think it is fair to implement that.

Maybe I can add downloads comparable to the free rom downloads feature though..

Will consider doing that.

Again, thank you both very much!

It is very motivating to hear you like it and thanks again for your support!

Edit, @jotha: where do you struggle regarding the install screen?
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
No, struggle, just have no clue where to put the png, how to call it and which size to make it, lol. So, pretty much everything. Already asked whiskey for a dummy theme that includes that image to reverse engineer. Also want to change the color of the progress bar, so I need a theme that includes all that to see how it's made. :)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Progressbars are a little bit more triggy :)

I have posted a little howto about making themes, maybe it could help you a little further.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18565278&postcount=434

Regarding size: use the best compression possible for the png and use the display resolution for your device except when the graphics should be displayed on screens with progressbars.. then it needs to be much smaller because otherwise it will interfere with the bars :)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Oh, thank you. I did a lot of theming in WinMo for MobileShell, so I'm no noob there. The tut is all I needed. Will go from there. But I found nothing about the "smaller" pic sizes for the screens with the bars. Are the sizes all the same? And how much smaller? If there are dummy pics for them in the template, then don't bother to answer. Gonna have a look in the template tonight.

Thanks again.
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
Well that's the reason i left them out. The resized picture will be centred on screen, with the progress bars underneath it. Imo it doesn't look nice. But like i said on pm, i will send you a theme with my smaller png as a demo.
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Unfortunately the template doesn't include any png's. Could you tell me where I can find the progress_fill and progress_empty on the phone? I'm gonna get them from there. I assume the progress_fill is a png with a series of progressbars in different states of filling?
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Yes for these screens you should use a similar resolution for the icons as the original ones..

I will upload them to the short guide I linked above in a few minutes so you can have a look at them ;)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
OK I made an icon_installing.png and the progressbars now with the help of whiskey103. Works perfectly when I boot recovery and install zip from sd-card. But when I start the 4ext app and choose install zip from sd-card, the phone restarts and I still have the black BG with the little android and a black progressbar in the middle of the screen. Nothing to be seen from my theme here

What file must I change here?

Another little thing I found: During a backup or recovery the program uses the smaller icon_installing.png though it doesn't show a progress bar. Here it could use the fullscreen background.
[HTC Sensation] 3r0k:
This has been one of the best purchases I have made on the Market since I started with android back in the G1 days. CWM is fantastic, however this recovery provides you with the little tweaks, like the fix permissions after flash, and the FILE NAME <----HUGE FOR ME. I will continue to support this recovery!

Thanks again madmaxx82!
[HTC Sensation] jayyo:
Found a very minor issue. I started a nandroid backup from within the app. The backup completed. When I went to copy the backup to my PC the folder name was missing the last character, which should have been a "9". This was the first backup I started from inside the app (instead of recovery).

Folder name: 2011-10-23-13.29.30_CyanogenMod7.1.0SelfKANG

Just for fun I started another backup while still in recovery. The folder name this time had the "9". All the other backups from recovery have the last character (7,8,9).

2011-10-23-xx.xx.xx_CyanogenMod7.1.0SelfKANG9

Not a problem, I just renamed the folder.

The recovery reports my ROM's name as CyanogenMod7.1.0SelfKANG9, which is correct.

Thanks for all your work on this recovery, it is awesome.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Hi! Sorry I had to leave and wasn't able to upload the originals yet. Will do now.

Regarding the icon_installing: when recovery only boots up in order to process some automatic actions it doesn't load the full icon set to increase speed.

Icons other than the background are in fact loaded in the background when recovery boots up and you get to see the main menu.

We'd need to do some performance testing on that to see how much it would be delayed. If it's negligible (1-2 seconds) then I will change it for the next release. Otherwise I'll make it a configurable setting.

Regarding status bars: they should be displayed unless you have enabled the option to not show progress to speed it up.

Thank you VERY much!

Hi!

This is because the rom name must be limited (for all other supported devices which use a lower display res), because otherwise the foldername will be cut when viewing your backups inside recovery.

That there is enough space for the last character of your rom is just coincidence. But yes, regarding the app that is a bug since it seems to allow one char less.

Thanks for reporting that. I will correct this to match the length of names allowed inside recovery!

Will also work to make this more dynamic since there is more space available on the sensation (display resolution)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
OK, I understand the first part now. I'd love to have that at least as an option. I think in the long run a lot of ppl will use your app to start the process and then in that cases the theme would be useless. I think the time to load a bg would be neglectable.

Regarding status bars: Thanks, I forgot that I switched it off. Now that makes sense.

Thanks for your support :)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
np :)

When loading them from a flashed theme so from /system yes, from sdcard maybe not.. the user could place icons manually there without actually installing a theme.. but I guess this won't happen very often :D

Will check for that and change it or make it configurable for the next release!

I have attached the original images to the little guide now (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18565278&postcount=434)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Nightsky Theme

Hi there

I wanted to play aound a bit with the theming capabilities of 4extrecovery and came up with a theme I like. Maybe one or another of you likes it too.

It's made to match my homescreen that is depicted in my sig. I used the same font, minimalistic approach and a sky-picture. My intent in selecting this picture was to keep the screen as readable as possible. This excludes any fancy-colored pictures.

Click pic for fullsized pic

This theme includes all screens, also the install screens and the progress-bar.

Here's the download-link: nightsky_by_jotha

If you should download and use it, please click a "thanks" to this post, so that I see whether there is an interest in more themes.

Of course comments and bug-reports are welcome. Just not on this thread, it's for the recovery itself. Send a pm instead.

Thx to whiskey103 for his support and the progress-bar images. Thx to madmaxx82 for his support.
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Hi madmaxx,

there is a small error in the screen-changing. When i choose "install zip from sdcard" and then "choose zip" and then scroll up and down in the directory, the screen png changes to the ext3-4ext-ext4.png :p
[HTC Sensation] Euphorie:
Looks awesome :)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Thank you very mucho.

And your other project looks interesting. :D
[HTC Sensation] DanOMac:
Theme

Hear is a theme i quickly knocked up myself its simple and clean
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Nice one :).

If I'm allowed to say: The icons (nice selection) would match even better if they'd be b/w or grayscale also, imho
[HTC Sensation] GideonX:
Started making a few themes, hours and hours later...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1318269

:P
[HTC Sensation] robbin7:
hi,

is the theme you're using (Nightsky theme for 4extrecovery: nightsky by jotha) working with Sense 3.0 (exactly Mike's ARHD 3.6.x XE) ?

thx
[HTC Sensation] ptr_hamilton:
Didn't you see what thread you're in :D it's a about recovery..
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thank you very much! Your theme looks very much different to the others which is even better :) There are not so many themes for the Sensation yet compared to the other devices.

Added it to the first post!

If you are going to create more themes (really hope so ;) ), please set up a thread for them, so I can link to your thread ;)

I'm aware of that :D will be fixed!

thank you! Looks very nice, also: completely different to all the other themes :) Thanks, added you of course.

Also you might consider setting up your own thread so I can link to it :)

Hehe start to repeat myself. Thank you very much, greatly appreciated! Never seen a Supermario theme yet.. even with progress bars :)

Added ;)

Hi,

any theme for 4ext recovery is compatible with all roms.. it's completely independent ;)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Thanks for the praise :p. Didn't want to make a thread for one theme. Dunno whether I'll go on from here with themeing 4ext. Already made another one exactly matching my homescreen, but don't want to share it atm. If I should create more, I'll make a thread on my own to avoid spamming your thread of course.

Again, thanks for the good work.
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
Yes guys, maybe it's better to keep the dev thread clean. So if you made your self some nice theme and you are not planning to make a theme thread yourself just dump it in my theme thread if you want.
[HTC Sensation] robbin7:
Sorry, not clear enough explanation by me. I was thinking of the theme from your footer (pictures)

thanks
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
That's not a theme, but a bunch of widgets and a lot of work. So it works on all Android phones and roms of course ;). But this is not the place to discuss this. Send me a pm and I send you a list of ingredients.
[HTC Sensation] d-iivil:
Great app! May I suggest a killer feature? Scheduled backups would make this complete :)
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
+1. Wonderful idea. Can only work with the paid app, but there: priceless.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thank you!

+1 :D

Noted on my todo list :)
[HTC Sensation] Snah001:
Well, bought and downloaded this app this morning with some skepticism.

But it was totally unnecessary..

Not much apps in market are that usefull.

It makes flashing much easier and to make a backup with the Rom name etc. is just what CWM is missing.

Of course the possibility to do everything from inside the app is awesome.

When I may make a first suggestion:

The menu appearing after starting the app needs some rework like adding some color and not such shouting big font.

Just a suggestion. Theming the recovery itself is very nice.

Congratulations and the app is worth buying every cent!!!
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thank you very much for your support! :)

With Euphorie's help nothing is impossible :D

Meaning there will be more than black and white and some icons too ;)

Regarding font size: I must reduce it anyway because of translations..

I hope you will like it once it's released with those changes.

Thanks again for your support which is very much appreciated :)
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
Yeye, i will send you the check for headhunting when the job is done. :D

She is amazing huh :)

PS: i like the red icons best ;)
[HTC Sensation] ziggy1001:
Not to sure how well that would work my backups are dictated by Dev's releasing new roms, features, etc which if they test out ok get backed up as a "good working version" that happens randomly and not to a timetable or schedule
[HTC Sensation] Euphorie:
Spoiler alarm :D

Tzzzz^^

Whiskey & madmaxx

Thanks for your compliments :)
[HTC Sensation] d-iivil:
Who said it would overwrite your existing backups? Ofcourse it would fill up the SD card eventually, but that's something that user needs to take care of.

Or did I misunderstood something?

My point was just to have automatic - overnight - backups in case of hardware failure, so one could easily restore all his recent stuff into new HW.
[HTC Sensation] ziggy1001:
Yep;)

For me a nightly backup would be ~5.5 Gb of backups a week at 700-800Mb each on Sense and i only have room for about 3-4. Bit excessive if the only thing that's changed is a few sms msg's
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Then you could set it to weekly ;). The fact that too many of them would fill up the card does not speak against the potential use of the function. The schedule would be up to the user.

I'd set it to nightly with overwriting the one before. When I'd need a special one for keeping (in case of ROM flashing) I'd make it manually and name it differently.

So I have best of both worlds and keep the number of backups in check.
[HTC Sensation] ziggy1001:
"It" does not exist!

Would "It" check that i, the user wasn't using the phone?
[HTC Sensation] BstabKillaR:
I keep getting a "your device is not supported" under the themes section of EXT4 Control. I have an HTC Sensation..I'm trying to change the theme for ext4..please help! :/
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Unknown issue, please send me a report through the app!

Please always report any issue you might have via recovery control, because then I get additional info about the running app and might see what's the problem.

I suspect a Superuser problem, but without a report I can only guess.

I will reply to you asap!

Need to get some sleep now though ;)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Could be configured :)

Let's see how all this could be done so it makes sense.

Just give me some time please ;)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
The version of 4EXT Recovery Control you've got is quite old and was released when there was no Sensation support yet.

Please update!
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
I got some questions regarding Titanium Backup's new feature: extract from "CWMR5" backups:

This actually means "tar backups", which CWMR5 uses always, and it works exactly the same with 4EXT.

But since in 4EXT recovery you have the choice to switch tar backups on or off, it means you can only use this new Titanium Backup feature for your tar backups!

Tar backups in 4EXT Recovery were disabled by default in earlier versions and are now default. However you might want to check if you have tar backups enabled or not.

You can do this via the App or by taking a look at your 4ext.prop file.

Using the app: select "recovery" and then "recovery settings". There you will find a switch "Use tar backups".

You can also verify whether tar backups are enabled or not if you enter "Manage your backups".

The currently used setting is in the title.. it should read "Backup setting: tar"

Using 4ext.prop:

You can also manually switch tar backups on or off by editing 4ext.prop:

Just open that file inside /sdcard/4ext/ and set "backups.use.tar=yes"

All backups done by 4ext recovery when tar backups were enabled will work for titanium backup's "extract from CWMR" feature.
[HTC Sensation] Dougi:
hey Mad maxx,

been using your recovery for weeks now, the best for me, about to buy the app .. :)

i just have a question,

can your recovery be responsible of :

- " any mail widgets makes sense restart ".. pretty anoying... beccause i use it a lot..

just to be sure...

thanks and great job here on this recovery.. ;)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thank you :)

Can't imagine.

But there might be something wrong with permissions. Did you already try fix permissions inside recovery?
[HTC Sensation] dabezt:
Hiya my friends, just a newbie doubt:

I've HBOOT 1.17.1111 with S-OFF and I've installed ClockWorkRecovery 5.0.0.8.

Is this 4EXT another kind of recovery sw, that can replace the one I've?

Is better that the one I've?

It does the same 'work'?

Thanks! Regards!
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Hi :)

If you want to get an unbiased answer, someone else should answer that question ;)

Yes it does the same job and more.

Please see the feature list on 1st post!

You could also try it out.. you can always flash CWMR again using Rom Manager if you don't like it :)

But I hope you'll love it :D
[HTC Sensation] dabezt:
Thanks for the 'biased' answer :-)

Just the three latest questions:

- If I install 4ext recovery will I be able to install roms again from recovery as I use to do with CWMR? same way? install from sd-card?

- About Rom Manager, wich is the latest version you recomend to use? I never used before Rom Manager :-)

- Backups done with CWMR are compatible with 4EXt? will I be able to restore the ones I did with CWMR 5.0.0.8?

Thnx again! Cheers!
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
A: yes

B: don't use Rom Manager, just use 4EXT control app.

C: yes

Rommanager is the controller for CWM, 4EXT controller is for 4EXT Recovery.

I recommend 4ext. But hey, also biased ;)
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Good morning mate :)

And thanks for the recommendation :D
[HTC Sensation] Dougi:
i'm trying this right now , will see...
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
Here's a theme I made, based on "Memories" by GeorgeHarrison on Deviantart. This zip is just a modification of another zip file.
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Haha, I should not be biased cause I'm not a member of the ARHD-Team, but I'm kind of converted :D. 4ext is way superior to cwm. It can do all cwm can and then some more. It's downward compatible, so there would always be a way back. But as they say in advertisement: "Once you pop, you never stop". You'll not go back...
[HTC Sensation] ptr_hamilton:
Absolutely agree :D My thoughts exactly
[HTC Sensation] PaulGiz:
As I recall, you had to be dragged kicking and screaming away from your CWM!

Personally I'm still thrilled to death with the useful features and thoughtful interface. For a habitual flasher and tester like me this recovery/application combo is fantastic.

P.
[HTC Sensation] dingolino:
Hi

maybe a noob question:

Is it possible while in recovery to have access via usb from the PC to the file system to be able to copy a file to the Sensation (internal and/or memory card)?

I would guess that the usb drivers @ Sensation are not up and running.

Best regards,

dingolino
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
A cmon, don't bash the old man :D he is now one of the best marketing guys on board ;)
[HTC Sensation] Whiskey103:
SD is possible, internal memory like system/data still needs adb push/pull