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[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Now that is strange.

I made a point to tell the T-Mobile rep to use the SIM card that came in box with the phone. Still no wifi calling and I'm on 1.36 too.

There must be something different in T-Mobile's system that triggers the activation.
[HTC Amaze 4G] vinterchaos:
Shouldn't it show up in the menu grayed out though, regardless of the SIM? I would think so....

I may head over to the T-Mobile store later today or tomorrow check out the floor model, or see if I can get another Amaze that has it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] BiGMERF:
yes it was there.. but when we would try it would say "no sim activation".. that was using the sim from my sensation.. So I had the card from the gs2 that i returned because it also had no wifi calling, I inserted that one and then it worked.. the notification symbol went from red to blue uptop
[HTC Amaze 4G] vinterchaos:
So some phones have it, some don't apparently. You said you are running 1.36.531.5 ?

I wonder if a factory reset would do us (the people without wifi calling) anything.
[HTC Amaze 4G] BiGMERF:
it was not my phone.. it was the reps phone... and now that you mention it, it was running

1.36.531.4
[HTC Amaze 4G] macheteZen:
sorry accidental post...
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Yep, that's the key to it I believe.

In the newer version of the firmware, the feature isn't even grayed out, it just isn't there.

I forget who it was in the forum that said that they had that 1.36.531.4 build, but they were already getting prompted to do a system update. I bet that after that update, the wifi calling option disappears.
[HTC Amaze 4G] BiGMERF:
then yes that is it.... wtf is the sense in that? FU ATT! lol

reps phone was not prompted for any updates in the 3 days he had it and he looked in the internal memos and saw nothing bout an update .. hmmm
[HTC Amaze 4G] g_says:
Its funny because I just looked up the user manual for HTC amaze and wifi calling is specifically on page 47 lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Yeah, but if you call T-Mobile and the agent looks at the manual in their system, it says "not available".
[HTC Amaze 4G] vikramdhani:
I wonder how a sim can decide which options on the software will show and which will not
[HTC Amaze 4G] domin8:
i'm pretty sure i'm using the new sim, and i dont have the option....
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Just bought the phone. In store model had WiFi calling option. My phone, didn't. My phone had 1.36.531.5. Upset, I went back to the store. Store phone had 1.36.531.4, I checked for updates, and updated the phone. Store phone then had the .5 release and no WiFi calling. T-Mobile Strikes Again!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] aw1974:
What did the guys in the store say? This is a total deal breaker for me as I have zero signal at work and use WIFI calling daily on my Sensation.
[HTC Amaze 4G] prankoy:
got my phone this afternoon and wifi calling was one of the questions i asked. the rep told me that during their training for the amaze 4G, they we're told that t-mobile will release a newer version of the wifi calling feature that will be seen in the carrier's future phones. when i pressed for more answers, he says their trainors didn't elaborate more. i guess we will have to wait for a future fw update or a new app from t-mo. imho though, wifi calling is a nice feature but it sucks when handing over from wifi to cellular. i do hope when they release this newer version,this issue will be resolved.
[HTC Amaze 4G] SRT102JZ:
F#@K I bought the amaze today AND sold my sensation today so no use doing my 14day return. I'm lucky to get 1 or 2 bars on edge at home and rely on WiFi calling. Has anyone tried pushing the apk yet?? If not, I may attempt it tmr and report back.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gravis86:
You need more than just the apk, you need the libs as well. Libs can only be inserted with root priveleges. So you're SOL until this thing is rooted.

Hopefully T-Mobile will have am update with the wifi calling re-enabled within the next couple weeks. I talked to a customer care representative and he said this phone is in their system as having wifi calling.
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
I installed the apk just for the hell of it....didn't work.

Like gravis86 said, none of the underlying infrastructure is there.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ScottC:
I am so f'ing pissed off with T-Mobile now. They admit on the phone that it isn't there, but had no problems telling me to swap out the sim anyway.

Flagship phone, with fewer features than its previous flagship.

And to make matters worse, everyone I speak to on the phone at T-Mobile nowadays just gives the impression that they have given up caring. They know the merger is coming, and they just want to make it to the end. They used to bend over backwards to fix things and make sure my $200/month bill kept me happy, but now it is all gone to hell :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheHeffNerr:
Not sure if any one saw this, but in the start guide it does say for WiFi calling you need the sim card that was shipped with the device. (page 21.)

Sorry if that was pointed out already.
[HTC Amaze 4G] menacke:
I have the new simcard in mine and the wifi calling doesnt show up either
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spovik:
This has been covered. The original software on the device had the wifi calling capability, but it's integrated in the wirless networks menu, not a separate icon like we used to have on MT4G, G2x etc. However there was a software update that removed the functionality.

The new SIM card is required, and a new software update will return WIFI calling functionality Considering this is a rather important feature for the device, it shouldn't be too long a wait before it is available.
[HTC Amaze 4G] gaww:
1. My device is being shipped (trying an end-around on an update price). so if it works when it arrives - can i block that update that caused it to disappear? If so, when else was in the update that I might not want to miss.

I would like to hold off on that update until the latter one (that is supposed to fix it) is out.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spovik:
You should. I'm using a demo device now (that has been updated) and my personal device arrived in the mail today. I can let you know, but you should.

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My phone was shipped with 1.36, so most likely yours will be too. :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] SRT102JZ:
seems that Tmo is getting worse and worse. Ive been missing/dropping several calls at am home since there is no wifi calling on it.

Also, is this phone supposed to come with headphones like all other phones ive had? I opened the box brand new from tmobile and there weren't any to be found at all...

Also cant believe HTC didnt include an SDcard, even with all the internal memory on the amaze, they couldve included atleast a 1 or 2gb sdcard. so is HTC cheaping out on us by not including headphones and sdcard? Especially on a $560 phone...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spovik:
Nope neither come in the box. To "fix" your wifi calling, if it's crucial and not not an inconvenience at this point you could look into google voice.

No SD is a little disappointing though. I have a 16gb card I've been toting around through the past few phones, but it's class 2, so there's a noticeable read/write lag.
[HTC Amaze 4G] pcgeek86:
Just FYI, Google Voice has nothing to do with wifi calling. It uses a little bit of data service to find a phone number to broker through, but that's about it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Spovik:
Ah, I've never used it for anything except VM so I just made an assumption that it would also do true VOIP. Thanks.
[HTC Amaze 4G] alanbradshaw:
Wifi Calling

Had discussion with T-Mobile PDA Tech support yesterday. Wifi calling is a feature that will be enabled on the Amaze. It was removed from the original ROM due to bugs. HTC is preparing an update and the projected release is the beginning of November. It is also confirmed that the SIM card that shipped with the Amaze will be required for the phone to use Wifi calling. If you want further information, call T-Mobile PDA tech support for a business account. They are very aware of this.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rollingjoe:
Had discussion with T-Mobile PDA Tech support yesterday. Wifi calling is a feature that will be enabled on the Amaze. It was removed from the original ROM due to bugs. HTC is preparing an update and the projected release is the beginning of November. It is also confirmed that the SIM card that shipped with the Amaze will be required for the phone to use Wifi calling. If you want further information, call T-Mobile PDA tech support for a business account. They are very aware of this.

I upgraded from the Sensation to the Amaze today and had some issues. I called Tmo an hour ago and spoke to a woman at PDA tech support that verified this info. She said that during training, they were told an update to fix wifi calling on the galaxy sII and the amaze will begin rolling out soon. Furthur, for this new update to work, you must use the new sim card that came with the Amaze or GIIS. She has the GIIS and also knows how to root, mod, etc. so I trust that she knew what she was talking about.

I know this is a different topic, but she also mentioned that you need to use the included sim card to take advantage of the faster network speeds.
[HTC Amaze 4G] vinterchaos:
just got this in my twitter feed

RT @TmoNews: Wi-Fi calling for both the Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze 4G go live on November 13th...

not sure where his info came from, but it adds up with what rollingjoe said
[HTC Amaze 4G] jre1981:
Here is the article from Tmo news, http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-the-galaxy-s-ii-amaze-4g-on-november-13th/ ,everything I have ever heard from them is solid, am I right or are they just protagonist press corps for T-Mobile? Sorry for the noob question.
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
TmoNews is pretty reliable.
[HTC Amaze 4G] brokenwatch:
1.36.531.6 was just released (or I just noticed it when I checked for updates). It does not add wifi calling back.
[HTC Amaze 4G] -FuRBz-:
i just ordered the phone last night so im hoping the wifi calling gets resolved pretty quick, otherwise i might hold off on using it (who am i kidding) until it does
[HTC Amaze 4G] fimanmd:
Yes, I have it on good authority that nov. 13th will be the day that Wifi calling will be available. no idea why it wasnt initially available but hold on folks. Nov. 13th will be the day.

they are getting closer to breaking this puppy open to rooting and roms and such so hold out. it will be worth it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] prankoy:
same here! too bad it didnt have the wifi calling. anybody noticed any improvements w/ this update?
[HTC Amaze 4G] brokenwatch:
I wonder if it blocks the recently released permanent root?

Edit: Someone confirmed they rooted using it so I guess not.
[HTC Amaze 4G] arodhr13:
I also just for the update and sol no WiFi calling. I think this was just a security fix as tmonewshas said WiFi calling comes out Nov13th. So let's just be patient. But on a side note anyone notice anything different with the upgrade?
[HTC Amaze 4G] striderx:
This is what you need for Wifi Calling on HTC Amaze:

1. The new SIM card that ships with the box - its the UICC GBA SIM card with a code 9177

2. Make sure you have your 911 address updated in your my-tmobile account.

With the new FCC regulations of mandating the e911 address for all Wifi calling devices started all this problems. HTC/T-Mobile is now trying to fix the Wifi calling feature to satisfy FCC requirements - this was what a T-Mobile tech rep told me.

I got my HTC Amaze with 1.36.531.5 and there was NO option for Wifi Calling.

I talked to at least 5 tech reps until I could get all the information I needed.

I also rooted and installed the BeastMod ROM and now I have the Wifi calling. There are some issues though - like when the screen goes off, the Wifi and the Wifi calling gets disabled. I have another phone and I try keep calling my Amaze just to make sure Wifi calling is working. But sometimes I get busy tone and when I turn the screen on, I see that the Wifi is disconnected and Wifi calling is disabled. I also tried to use the Wifi Locket app with NO luck.

So I guess we have to wait for HTC to release an update with the Wifi calling feature to make it work.

But for now, if you are just too eager to use wifi calling on Amaze, just root and install the BeastMod 1.1
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
Looking through the list of all installed apps, there is "IMS Service" and "IMS Test Client". Just need to figure out how to enable it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ScotterMonkey:
Running 1.36 and new SIM and I don't see WiFi calling. Between them removing that and making it difficult as hell for me to use Google Voice (it came pre-installed with T-Mobile Visual Voicemail that has a "free trial period" for voicemail-to-text), it looks like T-Mobile is finally going the way of the biggies, putting dollars before customers :-(
[HTC Amaze 4G] 338lm:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-the-galaxy-s-ii-amaze-4g-on-november-13th/

WiFi Calling should be "officially" available soon!
[HTC Amaze 4G] antiquezip:
Hi guys

Today is the day we suppose to get Wifi calling on our phone. Did anyone get it through OTA update or somehow the phone mysteriously activated itself with such function ?

I've checked my phone and it just not there. No Wifi calling at all.
[HTC Amaze 4G] marleyfan61:
Did you check to see if you have the GBA sim card? If not you have to get one from TMobile.....or so I've read.
[HTC Amaze 4G] antiquezip:
Yeah my SIM card is the new one that came with the phone
[HTC Amaze 4G] marleyfan61:
Anybody know if Telus has or will have this feature? I have lousy coverage at home and wifi calling would solve the problem.
[HTC Amaze 4G] defmute:
I called up T-Mobile and spoke to a few of the techs and none of them had any clue about this (according to internal email) and none of them know where the Nov 13 release date came from.

So make that what you will.
[HTC Amaze 4G] desialien:
hey i use the new sim card that came with my htc amaze. but still not showing any option of wifi calling. can u please tell me wut to do.
[HTC Amaze 4G] marleyfan61:
I talked to a tech support person yesterday at Telus. He wasn't the front line guy as they routed me to higher level. But he was freaking useless. I asked about wifi calling and he said it has nothing to do with Telus since when using wifi calling you're no longer using the Telus network. When I pointed out that the option should still be visible in the settings he said that whatever settings are available are totally up to HTC, not Telus.

I then asked about the camera software (SmartShot and Perfectpics) that wasn't on the phone. He again said that it is TOTALLY up to HTC as to what features are on the phone.

I then called HTC and was told that HTC basically says here's the phone and the features we can offer and the carriers decide how they want it configured and then lock down the phone.

When I asked about the ICS upgrade he said again it will be up to the carriers if they want to push it to its customers. Knowing Telus' history of software updates I won't be holding my breath. I may end up rooting after all.
[HTC Amaze 4G] stevedebi:
There are settings for WiFi calling and something called a SIP account in the settings menu. There is a setting to have the phone ask if you want WiFi calling when connected to WiFi. I haven't tried them yet.

EDIT: In the calls menu, bottom two options, internet calling.
[HTC Amaze 4G] prp2:
That's different. Those options are for SIP calling (true VoIP), for which you'd need an account with a VoIP provider (or you could setup your own SIP server). SIP uses UDP traffic across the Internet. The Wi-Fi calling feature this phone originally shipped with uses IMS to integrate into T-Mobile's network, by using your wireless router as a cell tower, essentially. Similar principle, though, as IMS also uses SIP to transport traffic.
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
talked to a T-mobile repersentative who was like I'm not supposed to say this hope were not bieng moniotored...but basically, 1.35 did have wifi callling, 1.36 does not yet.... in 1.35 it was the so called OLD WIFI CALLING, meaning you could make a call via wifi but if you move out of range, your call drops....he said the amaze and sg2 will be implementing the new wifi calling where if you drop out of wifi range it automatically switches the cell signal and when you move into wifi range it switches back...He said there WILL be a software update comming soon, i was trying to get it out of him jokingly, but he just said very soon....
[HTC Amaze 4G] FranzDages:
I just got the update, and I'm downloading it now. Not really in a position to test it at the moment.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Just wait until xboarder or someone else updates the rom.

You can wait an extra day or two.

The update does more than add wifi calling though.

It updates the hboot, radio, recovery, etc so it seems pretty major and since we cannot update those by a flashable update.zip (for CWM Recoveries) then this would be the best way to update all of that.

Once (or if) you update, you will have to flash the attached recovery to get your custom recovery back. This is the updated 5.0.2.7 that xboarder cooked up. No need to rename, just place it on the root of your sdcard and flash from hboot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] FranzDages:
Unfotunately, I've largely been in a family emergency for the last two months since I've got the phone. Hours everyday at hospitals, etc... I've never had a chance to root my Amaze to begin with, so I went ahead and installed the OTA update. Hopefully it doesn't screw anything up too much that keeps me from rooting it when I finally have some time to play around with it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] arodhr13:
Finally the wifi update is out but does any one have a list of all the improvements? Thanks
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
New Features

IMS Wi-Fi Calling

Google Music

Improvements

Improvements to Bluetooth connection

Clock widget not updating with time zone change

Improvement to Twitter and Peep application

Improved Wi-Fi connection

If you want manually check for the update press Menu > About Phone > HTC software updates > Check and follow the on-screen prompts. The update will continue rolling out through January 20th.

It also updated the radio, hboot and a few other partitions that I don't think anyone cares about. :rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
testing it now will get back to you guys soon..

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stupid.....they told me it would hand off to cell and back to wifi....just old wifi calling....LIARS....AND THEY MADE US WAIT ALL THIS TIME FOR SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE HAD FOR A LONG TIME.
[HTC Amaze 4G] oryan_dunn:
The new IMS calling was never going to hand-off, despite what the phone rep told you. Both Android WiFi Calling solutions (Kineto Smart-WiFi and IMS) don't hand-off, and IMS won't handoff until T-Mobile updates the network/backhaul side of things. IMS calling is basically SIP/VoIP, whereas the old UMA was really GSM packets wrapped in an IP packed and pushed over an IP connection. That's why the old UMA could hand-off, since it was really just a standard call. For T-Mobile to support handoff, they'd need to have network equipment that supports SRVCC.

IMS comes in handy for those 4G-LTE operators who want to do Voice over LTE (VoLTE), since LTE is just an IP network, switching from one IP connection to another with a VoIP call is pretty easy.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dlind99:
Make sure you are running software no. 1.43.531.3 in addition to using the SIM that came with the phone. Go to Settings>About Phone>HTC Software Updates and hit "Check Now".
[HTC Amaze 4G] supraman89:
My amaze(just got it today) came with the 1.35, updated to the .36, and now i check for updates again it has one available, i didn't get the version number but there is one available that adds the wifi calling functionality. I got a new sim card when i got the sensation 4g, now it looks like im going to have to activate the one that came with the amaze
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
What's the problem? I'm not sure I understand.
[HTC Amaze 4G] the_duck:
Just got my update today 1/8/12. Amaze on T-Mobile in Southern California.

Wish I could choose which SSID/wi-fi networks I want wi-fi calling to be active one since I really only need to use it at my house, but not at my gf's.

Oh well, just gotta remember to toggle it on/off (but there's no widget yet, so just added a shortcut to wireless networks from my homepage).
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
it is the radio the one that got updated and not the ruu version. if you updated i supposed you already have the latest radio version so your wifi calling should work properly.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] whitealien:
OTHER

Lirasinas colored theme. Theme: Collery for ++

Original HTC Lockscreen (v2). When unlocks it pulls down whole lockscreen image.

Heroine++ de-odexed pack. It includes de-odexed version off app and framework folders. It is not a ROM or update.zip. It is for those who want to mess arround with ROM theming or other customization. To use it you must boot into recovery, do full wipe, delete app and framework folders and push these to /system. Change recursively both folder rights to 644 and folder itself to 755 and you are ready to boot with de-odexed ROM version.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Habarug:
Nice :-) are you really recommending swap? Haven't tried it personally, but everyone says It's a bad idea..

sent with love from me to you
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Hero user:
Downloading

It is support Arabic ??
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Diamond Geezer:
Finally I seem to have found a ROM I can use every day.

I've tried all the ROMs on this XDA front page and all have problems one way or another. Very frustrating !

This just seems to work and at a nice speed.

I have been on Froydvillain for a while now but that started getting back it's gps restart bug. This has been fine so far with Co-Pilot (touch wood !)

It even tries and plays flash on the stock browser but the Hero just hasn't got the grunt.

The only thing I miss from the CM7 based ROMs is the 2g/3g direct toggle. Pity there isn't one for sense but a few more key presses versus a stable ROM is a no brainer.

Thanks Whitealien
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
The ROM looks nice. Thanks and congratulate on your release (one more 'new' sense 2.1 to flash).

However, my Hero is complaining of being over worked (too much flashing this few days).

Will try this ROM once I had enough of the current 2.3.7 ROMs

:D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
... along with every other 2.1 sense rom for the hero and even the way the phone came stock...

ppl tend to forget that the hero was playing full flash animations and flash games, albeit somewhat slowly, almost 2 years ago thanks to HTC's flash lite.

anyhow, this is a very cool sounding rom - I'm impressed with the concepts you've chosen here whitealien!

Although I have to say that the current release of cm7 by elelinux is pretty outstanding and plenty fast, and the fastest rom around is VE6 which is much faster than even the fastest sense roms.

still I'm going ot give this a try. seems like the best two sense roms right now are aeonflux and kimera 3, with kimera 3 being a little faster but aeonflux having more cool extra features.

Your rom though claims that fast speed but also to have one of the most useful features from aeonflux (or any legend or slide port) which is friendstream. So I'm excited about this!

Compcache is surprising... major devs have long thought it was slower than not using it. cool though, if it does work with fast sd cards!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] whitealien:
@Habarug - well, with compcache on you gain additional 25% of RAM. But like I said slow sdcard may reduce performance since system have to read and decompress stored RAM on swap partition which takes more time than reading directly from RAM. I have class10 card :P

@Hero user - no arabic language support, sorry.

Supported languages are: US, UK, FR, DE, ES, IT, NL, PT, SE, NO, DK, FI, CZ, PL, RU
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rdejager:
I am so going to use this.