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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
the link is still vague to me.

"Asus CEO Jonney Shih also noted that the tablet will be the first tablet in the world to run the new Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich OS"

so if it ships with honeycomb and then gets an ota update of ice cream sandwich before any other tablet.... doesn't that mean that it would still be the first tablet in the world to run the new android 4.0 ice cream sandwich os but just not necessarily launch with it?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/242231/asus_unveils_eee_pad_transformer_prime_tablet.html

"It's unclear whether the Prime will have Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich at launch"

we'll hopefully find out on november 9th. i hope it launches with ics too but not at the expense of a delay. if asus is saying that an ics update is coming out for the tf1 by the end of the year then that's a good sign that the tfprime will be ready before christmas and hopefully by the end of november.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SoundSurfer:
Have you tried using the stock e-book reader? I think it's better than adobe reader.

Regarding TF2, I'll buy it if I can sell my TF1 for 1 simple reason: I've paid 500€ for a tablet which can't play MKVs at decent speeds (High Profile)... my previous chinese tablet played them better then my TF1... that's my only complaint.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChrisDos:
Actually, from what I remember, it was optimized to run at 2560x1440 resolution. The demo had the Kal-El running a 2560x1600 and a 1366x768 monitors at the same time with different content running on each. The bigger display was running a High Profile 4.0 h.264 video running the native resolution. The Kal-El is the first chip that can do HP4.0 native in hardware.

I'm chomping at the bit for this tablet and adding 128GB SD card to it will make it a movie powerhouse. Hoping for root so I can put Debian Linux on it as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newtybar:
Reason to upgrade for me - speed.

While adequate the TF still leaves a lot to be desired in performance.

Webpages, pdfs, flash all render slowly.

HD videos (esp high profile) are choppy unless you re-encode.

Streaming video is not ideal.

I'm thinking the quad core in the TF2 fixes most of this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nonpaq:
I would like to get the Prime because of the thiness. After I got my TF I went through a stage of Galaxy Tab envy due to the thickness differences, but then I got my dock, and that quickly faded. The new Prime looks to reignite that envy again, and this time with a dock. The thing that would make it perfect would be ports on the tablet for when I dont have, or need, the keyboard.

Unfortunately, with no cash to spare, I am forced to hold on to my TF until some point next year.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
The Transformer Prime seems like it's going to be the first tablet that ticks all my minimum requirements for a tablet. The picture seems like the tablet is a lot thicker at one end than the other (i.e. slightly cheese wedge shaped). I guess we'll find out fully come 9th Nov when we get the full announcement.

One thing is for sure, I have no trust in any manufacturer's promise of providing some hardware/software upgrade after launch. They have always delayed and broken promises. I really hope manufacturers can turn this around because many consumers have lost confidence in their promises on that front.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jimpmc:
That picture shows the tablet and dock together...it is the dock that is wedge shaped, but the tablet is completely flat. See allthingsd.com/20111019/jonney-shih-asiad/?refcat=asiad#slideshow-1-25
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Dark lord me:
Actually I am extremely pleased with Asus and their updates least their not like Motorola "Hey 3.2.1 is coming out to all of you now*" while Asus is "Hey everyone 3.2.1 is coming out this week around the world enjoy

*All of you only means Americans
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DaveRichardson:
Just sold my TF101 and case for what I paid for them in the first place. (Three months of tinkering for $0? Thank you Staples $100 off coupon!)

Now eagerly awaiting Nov. 9th, crossing my fingers that the Prime comes in at $400 and not $500. If Asus does add a hundo to the price tag, I guess I'll have to sit tight and see what the market offers in the way of Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals, because there's no way in hell I'm spending that kind of money.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
i was pretty bummed about the price bump as well but the more i thought about it the less bummed i became and am now ready to make the leap at 499. it's coming with quad core, and from early benchmarks it will be twice as fast as the tf1. http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile...Performance_Benchmarks_of_Tegra_3_Kal_El.html

i understand the price premium for cutting edge technology and in this instance i'm willing to pay it but personally i would rather have a 16gb version at 399. oh yeah, i'm passing on the keyboard dock for now as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wayne7511:
Even though I just got my TF1 like 2 weeks ago, I might as well give it to my brother and get TF2 IF and only IF it is rootable! If Asus blocks it again then I'm just gonna get something else. TF is great but if I'm forced to stick with that Asus give me then what's the point? I'd rather get an iPad than an unrootable android TF!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
So in that picture, what the guy is holding is the dock part and the tablet is on his lap? I'm not sure that is correct because the part that is on his lap you can see a rubber foot near his left knee which would imply that is the dock part. The part in his hand seems like it's the tablet which seems slightly wedge shaped. If you look along the bottom edge of the tablet on the left side, there appears to be what looks like a full size USB port, following that black border bit along the bottom edge to the right hand side, it tapers to a much narrow dimension which is why it seems wedge shaped. However, I really hope it is flat as that to me is more aesthetically pleasing.

Fair enough, may be I was a bit harsh by group all manufacturers into the same bucket. The ones that I've had experience with (HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson and Motorola) have all been rubbish. Their poor show has ruined (rightly or wrongly) my opinion for all Android manufacturers when it comes to providing timely updates. Timely updates is a large factor when it comes to choosing a phone/tablet. Unfortunately, so is hardware features and design so it can often rule out the pure "Google Experience" devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
HTC is decent with updates least on phones however Sammy blows lol.never had a MOTO or Sony phone with android. Biggest problem with all these guys I think is their overlays on top of android doesn't always want to play nice where if they had less of a overlay it would help and probably not cause as many problems. Seems like HTC is taking their time w Updates now for whatever reason everyone needs to get out of the court room and back to work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
The thing he's holding is the tablet/dock combo, right-side-up, and yes, the dock does seem tapered but the tablet itself is flat. The thing on his lap is one of the Zenbook Ultrabooks (not sure if it's the UX21 or UX31).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chatch15117:
Adobe just put out an update and COMPLETELY revamped the PDF app. I'm pretty satisfied now, it caches in both directions. Makes scrolling through my 1000 page calc book a breeze.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barakoas:
NEW pics!! :)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/26/asus-transformer-prime-shots-leak-out-apes-the-tao-of-zenbook-d/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jerrykur:
I hope that is not the keyboard from the Zenbook. Reviews have been negative about that keyboard and trackpad.

From CNet,

"Alas, if only that keyboard and touch pad could come close to what a MacBook provides. The flat, square raised keys are too shallow and mushy for my taste, but it's more than that: I mistyped quite a bit when keys didn't seem to register. The keyboard's top row of function keys does double duty for volume control and screen brightness, and the power button's part of this same row on the far right. All buttons required me to simultaneously press Fn to raise/lower volume and the like, which killed some of the elegance. The keyboard also lacks backlighting, and the black-on-silver key lettering can be hard to read at off angles.

The touch pad isn't the more common Synaptics version, but a Sentelic that, while offering similar two- and three-finger gesture controls, wasn't as responsive consistently--even when we installed the latest driver updates. Neither the keyboard nor the touch pad is a deal breaker, but they mar the supposed Zen-like feel I felt that Asus hopes we achieve via the Zenbook. Love at first sight didn't describe my ergonomic experience."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dazz87:
I have the zenbook UX31 and I have no issue with keyboard. You do have to hit the keys a bit more then other keyboard but its not a big deal. The finger gesture is some what buggy but Asus stated they are working on a update. Hopefully when the T2 is release the touchpad will be resolve.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeeterpro:
Not impressed at all. Agree with goodintentions the bronze scheme was something that set the TF apart from the others. This looks like almost any other netbook/macbook out there. Sad.

JMO of course.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sandman1555:
I can't wait
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] martabakeju:
i think there are no other tablet in the market with aluminum casing, and 'circular' pattern on it, like Jonney Shih said on AsiaD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] twirtle2:
Does fact that the alt key is still on the right side bug nobody else?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xPSYCHOTRONx:
Im not too interested in the dock but i think it all looks pretty good. Cant wait to buy one. Wru pre order?

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jocelyn:
I really hate to bump this, but I still can't believe so many people thought it was coming in 2011! While I'm hopeful for it to be released soon (Q1 2012), I'm still goin with Q2 as a personal prediction. Let's hope I'm wrong this time ;)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Asus-Transformer-Prime-leaks-in-a-set-of-photos_id23284/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
i guess we'll just wait and see what they say on the 9th. I'm still hoping for end of this year.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pzboyz:
Well, the FCC listing site is showing an Asus device as a TF201, no other information yet. But it seems like it is coming soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Orion66:
Well maybe (I hope) Ausus will aim to launch new TF BEFORE Christmas... that would be clever... I think....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cooki3s:
Phonearena is quoting Shih on the wrong release date, he said the padfone would be out in Q1, he said nothing about the TF2.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rob_z11:
will this new tablet fit on old Keyboard dock or I have to get a new keyboard dock as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
I would seriously doubt it as both tablets are vastly different dimensions. If it is compatible then it will be very odd as the Transformer1 design will be very different design to the design of the Transformer2 and thus it wouldn't match.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] starfcker69:
Based on what I've read I'd be surprised if it ships by Xmas. There are no other quad processor tablets announced, (except for the fingerprint smudged Chinese tablet on Engadget posted a few weeks ago).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] schmak01:
Today the 32 gb + dock is 499, you will see newegg sell it again at 399 for dock + 16 GB

Its 19 bucks more than what that guy got it and I can guarantee it will be up again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I would be surprised if it DOESN'T ship well before Christmas. Companies don't usually torpedo the sale of their current products just before a major sales holiday by pre-announcing new replacement products that won't be available for months. Once they announce the TF Prime, they can write off any profits on their remaining inventory of TF1 products.

I mean, companies DO stupid things like that, sure, but ASUS hasn't struck me as being so stupid.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] starfcker69:
Asus is eating their own children - torpedoing their own sales as well as competitors. Like I said, there are no quad processor tablets announced from any of the major Taiwanese or Japanese manufactures. The new, thinner Toshiba (no shipment date) will be two core - but faster, and no mention of quad cores from Acer, Motorola, Samsung, or Sony.

Do you think that Asus somehow is getting quads months ahead of the competition? I may be wrong, but this is why I believe that the Asus Prime will ship two months +, as opposed to two weeks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
so how did that chinease company get quad months ahead of others? everyone is jumping to conclusion of if it will or if it won't. just chill and see on the 9th
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Actually, I do think that Asus might be getting the Tegra 3 earlier than anyone else. They've had the best success so far with Android tablets, and perhaps simply committed to purchasing earlier than anyone else. Keep in mind that the Tegra 3 was supposed to be out in tablets in August, and so it's entirely feasible that they've made enough inventory to fill the demand for one model today.

We'll find out soon enough, but I really don't think Asus is announcing on November 9 just to release in January. What would be the point?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
also would someone really announce a product release date november 9th and expect people NOT to get it for christmas? that would be the dumbest marketing move ever.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
It's not a release date people its a press conference u know like Google and Sammy did for the gn.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Peahnuts:
Er hai, recently looked through a lot of websites and just read the whole thread. I've got a Toshiba Thrive, but I live in Australia and the support is just absolutely horrifying. I'm thinking of getting a Transformer this weekend or the following week but the TF2 really put me off. The announcement date is Nov 7th, so that could mean a Dec wait but it could also mean a late Q1/Q2 wait in which I wouldn't mind getting a Transformer since it's getting ICS.

Could anyone give me an opinion of wether to get the Transformer now as I looked into the tablet for a while and it's so god damn sexaay or wait for the TF2. Price is also a factor for me, I plan on getting either with the dock and the 16GB model. Any help would be appreciated, I'd rather not wait. Thanks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
I say wait and see what they say n if it seems to far off get the tf1 just my thoughts tho.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
i'm in the same boat that you are except right now I do not have a tablet and looking to buy my first tablet. I do have a g2x smartphone (which runs the same tegra 2 processor as the TF).

I think i'm going to wait until the 9th and see what happens. I'm hoping that they will release it by christmas in which case I will just get it then. Otherwise, I'm going to probably get the TF1 on a special deal where you get the dock for free or something along those lines. There is actually a deal out today for $499 for the 32 gb tf01 and the dock for free so i'm sure in the future there will be more deals.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I'll add that the fact that ASUS seems to be blowing out the TF1 already points to a release sooner rather than later...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
I would wait for the prime. I think it will be out very soon based on the leaked shots of it in the wild. That leads me to believe the hardware is just about done and ics will be released with he galaxy nexus mid November so that is done as well. Barring any crazy news I see the prime out by hopefully by the end of November or mid December at the latest. This is all speculation of course but hopefully I'm right on this. November 9th just happens to be my birthday so an awesome present would be for hem to announce it will be available the week after the 9th
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acdcking12345:
I have a TF1 with dock, and I am thrilled with it. it helped that I got a unit that I could root.

I will not be going after the TF2 simply because the TF1 does everything I need it to do.

I say if you don't have a tablet, and want a tablet, wait for the TF2 to come out and get the TF1 for a discount..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
It's an announcement, presumably of the release date, which is the whole point: ASUS would be insane to announce on November 9 and then not ship until after the New Year. And they've not shown themselves to be completely insane so far...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Peahnuts:
Ah maaaan, really wanted a Transformer but I might wait. Guess I'l just go to the shop and check it out anyway. I'll ask someone that works there if they know anything about the TF2 while I'm at it.

I wouldn't be surprised if I couldn't return my Thrive anyway. >____>
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darkhawkff:
Could play devil's advocate and suggest that they are announcing a release date after the new year.....so people DON'T go and buy some other fruity tablet instead when they'd rather have a TF2.....

Just a thought. I generally would agree, why announce it before Xmas if you can't get it for Xmas....But given the supply issues and general yield quantities of Tegra 3 thus far, I don't see it coming out before Xmas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] outerdepth:
I am gonna wait

Granted, I just got my TF101 recently, but I was aware the new one is just around the corner. I agree with several of the earlier posts. I don't EVER buy the 1st edition models of anything. It's generally a horrible idea. Most manufacturers are scared by the demand deadlines in this very fast paced world. I find that most of these have major bugs that have to be worked out.

My Transformer was rootable the day I got it, and I have tricked this thing out. It will probably run ICS at some point, either from an official update or someone will hack it and get it running. To be honest, I don't even like the way ICS looks. I am sure the features are great, but I am not a fan of the look, sorry if I hurt any feelings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morbidrealities:
I am personally going to wait a few months. This was my best gadget buy ever and I plan to use it for quite awhile longer. My main hope is that Asus makes a TF Prime in something other than a shiny metal. I'd prefer a black metal back in a matte finish. I like the fact that the Prime is so thin but I'd really like it more if they thickened up the top a bit so it could sit at a slight incline in landscape as well as supporting full size SDx2, HDMI and USB ports without having a dock. I have a dock but, it would be nice not to have to take it with me wherever I go just to get that functionality. I am really hoping that the Padfone comes out for Verizon and will be a T3 device. That would be the best option for me
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jeremyshaw:
That would be helping apple... people will buy fewer ipad 2, and just simply wait for the ipad 3 after the new years. C'mon, you k now this is true :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darkhawkff:
Not really....Apple, at the earliest, would announce the Ipad 3 in March. That's assuming they have it developed and everything ready to go. But even if you look at the sales figures for Apple products, the sales for current products don't slow down until a month before a 'new' product will be announced, not 3 or 4+ months before. Assuming Asus doesn't have product ready to sell before the HUGE holiday selling seasons, how do they capture any of the market? By making an announcement to help persuade people to wait another month for when they are ready...But that's not really the point....

The point is that you can always look at it from the other side. Who says that they have it ready to go? Who says all the suppliers are ready to go? Who says they're going to have a stock, ready to go, on shelves, sometime between now and beginning of December? No one. So what happens if they don't? They need to give some incentive to wait. If they don't announce it before Christmas, the only people that will buy it afterwards will be all the people (like us here) that WANT the tablet and will wait. The rest of the population (read:Normal people) could care less, and will spend their money at Christmas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
If Asus can't bring the tablet to the market before christmas they will not announce it. What do you think they are selling between the 9.11 and the whatever time the prime will be ready? Nobody would buy the Transformer #1.

And with the start of a new year there is the CES. It makes no sense to announce something in november and bring it to the market the next year.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Johnny0906:
November 9 The Asus Transformer Prime will be announced and it will be having Tegra 3 for sure :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Some info: http://www.tabletnphone.com/keyword/asus-eee-pad-transformer-2-october/

Its a beauty!

And some image the device:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
ASUS has announced that the Prime will ship with Honeycomb and get ICS later. No reason for this except that the Prime is going to ship sometime before ICS is released. That's more evidence that it will be out this year...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
Asus Investor Document Confirms Transformer Prime Launch on November 9th

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/3...firms-transformer-prime-launch-on-november-9/

WHAT!!!! WHAT???? EAT IT NAYSAYERS & DOUBTERS!!!! :p:D:p:D:p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
You beat me to it... Looks like ASUS is planning on being really aggressive in this market, which makes me think the Prime 16GB might remain at $399. If so, they're going to kill it. Even at $499, the Prime will be a killer device.

Now I just have to figure out a way to convince my wife that I need it rather than my TF1...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
"its my money and i'll do what I want with it" :)..i'm hoping that the 16 GB stays at $399 but i think it will go up unfortunately.

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we'll see on the 9th. that would be awesome though! i'm really hoping for that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
You must not be married... :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
Yeah, gets really expensive when you're married and want to buy a toy, b/c you have to buy her a toy first... and that's why I went and stood in line to get my wife's iPhone 4S on launch day, b/c I knew my day was coming. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ^Fs:
some info on slashgear about the nov 9th release too

http://www.slashgear.com/eee-pad-tr...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashgear+(SlashGear)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
If the engadget article is correct and the prime is shipping with honeycomb and not ice then I have no reason to doubt it's coming out this year.

If it is actually released on the ninth it would be the best bday present ever. Please give us a 399 16gb version Asia!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
is launch the same as release? or can launch represent the official "unveiling" of the product?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
So THAT'S why my wife has been browsing jewelry lately........

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I'm expecting the Prime to be detailed on the 9th, and then available within a few weeks (by Thanksgiving). Hopefully ASUS will have adequate stock this time, and I'm really hoping it's available at Costco immediately (love that 90-day return policy, just in case)...