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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] marcomsousa:
I think that will have only 1GiB. Don't make sense to manufactures upgrade to 2GiB.

The RAM score is twice as good, because the speed.. It's 800Mhz vs 400Mhz from the actual tablets.

With more CPU speed also is needed a faster ram speed, for use fully the tegra 3.

The Windows 8 is develop to work with 512MiB. So isn't need more that 1GiB
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] timlot:
Judging by this pic of trasnformer prime mother board that Elpida ram chip is 1GB according to the part number.

The 1st gen transformer had a similar ram chip. The "13" indicates its a 1GB chip according to Elpida. http://www.elpida.com/en/products/pndecoder/ddr2mb.html
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darkhawkff:
christ, why are some many people calling it a 5 core? It's NOT. At ANY point in time, there is only a maximum of 4 cores running. Read the white papers on it! The 'single' core is only used when it is either in a low power state, or when there isn't enough of a workload to justify having any of the other 4 cores powered up. It WILL NOT have all 5 cores processing at the same time, ever. 1 core is NOT dedicated to the OS and background stuff. It's obvious you read 1 or 2 headlines, and made large overbearing assumptions. Yes, it may have 5 cores, but they won't ever be used all at the same time.

:rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Well, technically speaking, the Tegra 3 does have a "5-core processor," because, well, the processor has 5 cores. Doesn't matter if they're never used all at once, they're there.

Yes, I'm making a completely semantic argument, but only because I'm wasting time until we find out when we can get this son of a *****.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darkhawkff:
I'd agree for the most part. The 13 really indicates it's using 1 Gb (gigabit) chips internally. I'd imagine the '8' right before the 13 indicates it has 8 of the 1 Gb chips, which would give you the 1 GB (gigabyte) chip that we see. Seeing as how the Tegra 3 is still a single channel memory controller, the fact that we are seeing higher memory benchmarks can only be attributed to the 800 MHz memory bus speed (double that of Tegra 2, as someone else mentioned). As far as possibly having 2 GB of memory on Tegra 3, I can't find any confirmations what the maximum addressable memory is for Tegra 3. I'd be surprised if it isn't more than Tegra 2, but the fact that Tegra 3 still has a single channel memory controller makes me believe otherwise....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bans0n:
from digitimes

Asustek delays Transformer Prime to December

source: digitimes.com/news/a20111107PD217.html
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
If true awesome.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TrailorParkKid:
I'm depressed now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] koven:
Me too. Was gonna wait for Prime, but now I'm buying Transformer or Samsung...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
oh well. i wasn't planning on buying it until December anyways. but if its not out by early early december, i'm probably just going to get a really good deal on the older transformer with a dock.

although, it doesn't make sense. lets say google does help them out in making icecream sandwich for the tegra 3, why not create an upgrade? I mean you are forcing people to develop, test, and move to production in a month. thats never good for the business cycle. If you know honeycomb works, then ship with honeycomb then create an awesome upgrade to icecream sandwich. its that simple.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PatrickVogeli:
samsung? are you serious? good luck with that one ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
I don't get the hype about ICS. It's only a minor update to Honeycomb 3.2.

Bring the Prime with HC 3.2. The Tablet is not only about the OS. Tegra 3, the new dock, the new Design are an improvement over the old one. But they want to delay the Prime because of ICS? What a waste of time.

And i don't unterstand that Asus is not saying anything. The CEO announced two weeks ago that we will see the Prime on the 9th. But one day before they will need 4 more weeks? God, don't lie to your customers.

/edit: A few specs?

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/asus-to-roll-out-transformer-prime-tomorrow-62211928.htm
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
Well it is depressing I think its a smart move to hold off release for a month so it is the first tablet to run with ics. First tegra 3 tablet first tablet with ics. Sounds like a winner to me. I'm sure it will be early December I doubt asus wants to miss out on the holiday season and release it to late for people to buy them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
Is asus still hosting their "launch" announcement tomorrow?

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not a smart move. you can't have it properly developed/tested in a month. its going to be glitches galore.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
That's from cnet|asia:

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/asus-to-roll-out-transformer-prime-tomorrow-62211928.htm
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
32GB / 64GB internal storage? there is no 16 GB model? Strange.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
Would explain 100$ jump n i don't see why it would be buggy as googles newest phone has tegra 2? And is to support 720 p naturally....idk guess we will wait and see.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
Okay, so, the presentation is tomorrow: http://www.netbooknews.de/53800/asu...-alle-infos-ab-mittwoch-7-uhr-deutscher-zeit/

It's german, but the guy said that asus taiwan provides him with the invitation for the "webinar". He (and i think every other blogger and Tech guy on this planet) will have all information and a lot of videos.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hagba:
I was waiting for this,since there are already two SGT 10.1 in the family,(son and wife)one wifi one 3G,

I think that the new transformer prime is not ready yet,we had a glimpse of it but never saw it functioning,most probably the december wont be the last delay,which reminds me of my Asus EEEPC 1000H long delays.

I hope I am wrong sice I need to get a tab next week or so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
Yeahh this is a relief. Even if I can handle a month delay for the actual release of the Prime, I'm still starving for more info and it appears there s no Steve dying this time !

yeea
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] T.A Blet:
Information I just read on Tabletsmagazine.nl (Info from Asus Benelux)

No 16Gb version available.

32Gb version comes with the keyboard dock.

64Gb version available without the keyboard dock.

Price will be higher than the first transformer at launch.($499 ????????????)

Probably a gold and silver version.

Asus Benelux confirmed again that the Prime will not be available for the Netherlands this year, launch here is Januari 6.

This will probably be the same for the rest of Europe.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
Seems bizarre to associated inclusion of the dock with the size of onboard storage size. Are you sure?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
where did you see that the 32 GB model coming with the keyboard dock for $499? I actually think that is priced extremely well if that is indeed the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Yes, if the 32GB version includes the dock at $499, then that would be HUGELY competitive. Somehow I doubt it, but the good thing is: only a day to wait.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
thats a day too long!! when is it scheduled for tomorrow? are there any live streams?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SoCmodder:
I have yet to have any problems the my transformer. The screen went out, but Asus replaced it for free. Between getting the dock for my transformer and getting the nexus when it decides to come out, I'm gonna be broke as it is. The prime does look quite nice though :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] voltron2k11:
1. I never said that they are used at the same time!

2. At one point you say IT DOES NOT HAVE 5 Cores, but in the End you say it does... dude just get some real problems...

Tegra 3 has 5 Cores, 1 CPU companion + Quadcore ! And that is entirely correct ... so just chill
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] T.A Blet:
Well, tabletsmagazine.nl got their information from Asus Benelux.

Take a look at the header of this article.

2 versions available at launch

32 Gb + dock

64 Gb without dock

http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2011/...e-komt-in-32gb-dock-en-64gb-pad-only-variant/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
I want 64gb WITH dock !
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] T.A Blet:
Tabletsmagazine.nl also doubt that the 32Gb + dock would only cost $499.

CEO Shen said it would launch the Prime in the US for about this price.

US might get a 16 Gb version without dock (speculating) or is going to pay a lot more than the $499 for 32Gb + dock.

We will know tomorrow.

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Sorry for the confusing, CEO Shen said a week or so ago, it would probably going to cost about $499 in the US.

It is known now that the first model will be a 32Gb + dock.

I put a lot of ? after the $499 because I did doubt that it would only cost $499.

Sorry for the confusing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] starfcker69:
So the tablet will not have micro USB. USB on dock only, just like the original Transformer. I'll likely skip this tablet. By December (when the Prime starts shipping) there will be more tablets to choose from.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] punman:
I am an audiophile and we've learned over decades of experience that bigger numbers only sometimes mean better performance. What are we measuring?

It's not like a CPU spec or a RAM size, you can't think of it that way. Especially with headphones, where you want better detail over RAW VOLUME RAWWRRRR :eek:

Hope this helps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rob_z11:
Are dock interchangeable? I have dock from 1st gen Eee Pad, and I wonder if I could it use it on 2nd gen?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Nobody knows this yet...

Edit: Well, of course, some folks at ASUS know, but none of us here do.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darkhawkff:
Read your post again. You state that the companion core is for the background OS....which, as everyone knows, is incorrect.

Get your story straight. 5 cores, yes. Will you ever use all 5 to take advantage of them at the same time (as your post originally said), no.

Also, lol@release date being pushed back already. So....shall we wager on the next release date being pushed back too?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Actually, we have a rumored push back of a rumored release data. ASUS has yet to specify exactly when the tablet will be released--they've only said they'll be announcing it tomorrow.

As far as we know, if it actually does ship in December, that could be EARLIER than ASUS originally planned...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rob_z11:
I can't believe I am hearing this right? I thought they were interchangeable? I hate it. I got one from Newegg for 399 as the tablet for family and found out about the quad core in the works.

I bought the touchpad during the firesale and it is running awesome with CM7 gingerbread on it. Sux this technology evolution.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
i guess asus made their big announcement

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet

we still don't have a release date other than "december."

i'm a sad panda :(

a really interesting article on tegra 3 as well

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5072/nvidias-tegra-3-launched-architecture-revealed/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
It does look awesome tho... And a little more time to gather up some cash to pay for it doesn't hurt.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sib64:
Last news about Asus Transformer Specs:

Highlights of the Transformer Prime include:

Quad-Core Tegra 3 Processor

Additional 5th core (which we’ve lovingly called “Ninjacore”) to reduce power consumption when 2 or 4 cores are not needed

10.1″ IPS+ display with Corning Gorilla Glass and 178 degree viewing angle

1 GB RAM (LP DDR2)

8 megapixel auto-focus rear camera with 1080P video capture and large F2.4 aperature

1.2 megapixel front-facing camera for video conferencing

12 hours of battery life, up to 18 hours when paired with the keyboard dock

2 color schemes: Amethyst Gray and Champagne Gold

2 storage options: 32GB and 64GB ($499 and $599 price points) with expandable storage via microSD

8.3 millimeters thick, weighs in at 1.29 lbs.

More infos here :Asus-reveals-Transformer-Prime-specs
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] reaperzero:
this sucks! the day i can finally hold a glossy transformer in the throne room while squeezing a few subs is getting farther away as we speak
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HybridHB:
---------- Post added at 08:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 AM ----------

Anyone know what this IPS+ display is? I loved the PLS screen on my SGT 10.1. I hope the colors are good on it, i really dont care too much about the brightness.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rirawin:
guessing the UK be screwed and prices be £499 instead of $499.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
It's pretty much a sure thing. You have to wonder what goes through the mind of the sales manager who prices it for UK:

Assistant: "What's the USD to GBP exchange rate?"

Sales manager: "Who the hell cares, just change the currency symbol."

:D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] reaperzero:
my heart almost gave out when i saw that >_> converts to 2K++ here....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ckoadiyn:
Atm its about 800$
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrMuz:
Is anyone else a little disappointed?

I was really expecting a bump in resolution, battery life improvement is marginal so the only other real benefits are the CPU and the design (it looks incredible BTW). As much as I have gadget lust for something this slim and shiny I can't see any real reason to upgrade for how I use my TF. Hopefully some more T3 demos will blow me away and have me eating my words
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bøygen:
I'm disappointed at no mention of 3g or any other mobile connectivety.

Thats a must in my opinion. I will probably come with 3g in a year just like the first transformer :mad:

Also, charging via micro-usb would be great, so I only need to bring one charger, but with that kind of battery I can probably live with it.

And it looks great! Droool!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hoss_n2:
Full specs revealed officially http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-asus.html
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
That pretty much confirms that it'll launch with Honeycomb and ICS will come as an update after (hopefully not much after).

One weird thing I noticed, the tablet battery is 25Wh and the dock battery is 22Wh (about 90% of the capacity). However, the battery life for tablet on its own is 12 hours but with the dock it is only 6 hours more (50% more).

Why does a 90% increase in battery capacity only yield 50% extended operation?

I know there's some clever tech stuff going on when the tablet is attached to the dock such that the dock's battery is used to power the tablet as well as charge the tablet's own battery to 100%.

However, even taking this into consideration, the dock seems like a real battery hog or is there something else going on?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
Maybe they did something smarter with the Prime dock with the sleep mode of the dock. Maybe a dedicated portion of the battery to keep it ready to go. Or something like this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techno79:
Why does the dock need a sleep mode? I would have thought it's a dumb piece of hardware with no intelligence or processing itself. I see the dock similar to a USB keyboard and an external battery all wrapped up in a pretty design to match the Tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] inimitableac:
Personally I don't want the first T3 ICS tablet released. It's going to be bug heaven, haven't we learned yet that it's best to wait and let the manufacturers see what's all wrong first. Remember the transformer got to see the failures of the xoom and other tablets before it. Never buy the new because the old was good because in electronics things change too much. There is always a new IT device and it may not be the TF2.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] redsnake80:
Several sites say: November 7 :D

But 100 USD more expensive....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
where do you guys get the nov 7th time frame? I only see one website that states that.

yes it is $100 more but its the same price as the ipad2. I was really hoping for the $399 price range but i will probably end up paying $100 more for it. I'll wait until december 5th to buy if it does come out just incase there is a price fall after the first few weeks (Highly unlikely).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] uploder:
geez we have alot of ballers on xda :rolleyes: lol .just a quick question . those of you who will be buying a tf2 do you already have the tf1? just curious...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blessedswine:
i have a hard time believing nov 7th they havent even shown the damn thing yet. i doubt a company will reveal a tablet and 3 weeks later release it. the only ones that can pull that off is apple but thats because people already know all about thier stuff(meaning they know the iphone and ipad names) not to many people know what a transformer is, hell if i say im using transformer they say oh your watching that movie on your IPAD. so for me 3 weeks isnt enough to for them to build hype, if memory serves me right they waited 6 weeks for the first one from showing it off to selling it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flight777:
They just did it with the UX21 and UX31 Zenbooks (just 20 min ago). Announced today, released tomorrow :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jimpmc:
I would also agree they probably won't announce this too far ahead of time, as any announcement will impact the existing inventory of TF1.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dante8205:
The original Transformers release date was told 6 days before its release...thats it. so dont find it that hard to believe
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blessedswine:
release date is different from showing off the hardware. they showed the hardware back in the end of feb, didnt start selling it till the last day of march in the US. so i was wrong it was 5 weeks from anouncement to selling it. and what we have so far isnt even an anouncement that they gave for teh TF101, they released the specs for the TF101 all we know about this one is its expected price of 499 and that its going to have tegra 3, we dont know the memory amount we dont know storage size yet, we dont know which android os although ever expects ICS, we dont know if it will work with the current dock or a whole new one. the hype we see for TF2 is all about the tegra 3, which only ZTE has showed off in some form or shape hardware wise...i dont know when it will launch but i would be shocked if it was any sooner then a mid to late nov at the earliest, i still think q1 of 2012 like a link in this post suggest along with a bunch of other sites now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dante8205:
You are correct however maybe they cant show off the device because they cant show ICS until its officially revealed. I think thats the reason why they didnt meet the October releasetoo
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junks2010:
I bet you guys that it will not sell as many as the original TF if it's priced at 500.

Most people don't care if it has 8 core CPU. All they know is that they can get the iPad2 for the same price so why bother with the "crappy" ASUS.

I have the TF1 btw.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dante8205:
The answer to that is tegra . Keyboard dock. And ICA. But it wont sell as musch as the ipad.

I think its possible to sell as many as the original transformer though
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] asdfuogh:
I think the keyboard dock is attractive, but to be honest, you have to be much, much better than the iPad to outsell it, since it has that brand name recognition and ****. I think it might sell as much as the original transformer, but it could also tank.

I mean, factor in the people already with transformers, how many of those would buy another transformer (or trade in their oldies or something similar)? Asus is kind of well recognized (I see it often in Chinese shows, probably sponsored by Asus in some way), but it's not exactly Apple. It doesn't have religious fanboys pining for newer editions. That's Android. Speaking of which, though it has ICS (we assume), is that enough of a pull for Android fanboys? I mean, one of the greatest things about Android is that we have a crapload of platforms to choose from. So, what makes you think the release of this won't prompt some ICS roms for the older transformers which would be even cheaper?

In any case, I do hope that Asus releases the TF2 next Christmas or has an extremely kickass feature that can't be reproduced on the transformer. My transformer is awesome as hell, and I don't get the feeling that the TF community will let ICS pass without bringing it in some form to the TF1. I have no reason to switch.. do you guys?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dante8205:
Ya but the best thing this tablet has going for it is that its supposed to be the first tabet with tegra 3 and ICS. That should definately help its sales. I thin its impossible for it to"tank". No matter what happens this tab would never see sales close to the ipad. i am in a fortunate situation thouogh because because i just bought a transformer 10 days ago and I have 14 days to return it to best buy. I love this tab but i can definately wait for tegra 3.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] asdfuogh:
Ahah... yes, tank is too harsh. :D But I mean, it could go the route of the TouchPad.. :( Hopefully not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junks2010:
1. The keyboard dock is not free, it's an add on item.

2. ICS will be available to other manufacturers too, not just ASUS.

I will consider it a success if they can even match the original TF sell number. But I doubt they will at $500.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
The idea that a product has to sell as well as the iPad to be considered "successful" is simply ludicrous. The iPad is a cultural phenomenon in my opinion--it's what happens when a company manages to create an installed base of some millions of people who will buy whatever they put out. Good for Apple, but it's not a meaningful measure of success.

Really, a company only wants to recoup their costs and make a profit. That's it. At any given time, they have a fixed amount of money to invest in new products and a fixed number of options. So long as they pick the right ones--i.e., products that will sell enough to make the required profit--the company will keep on keepin' on.

I think the Transformer has been very successful for Asus, by their own metrics, and the Transformer 2 will also likely be successful for them. Whether it sells as many units as the iPad sells is completely irrelevant to this question.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jblah:
here are some more tidbits for release date:

http://www.slashgear.com/eee-pad-transformer-2-pre-order-listing-surfaces-11186830/

http://androidcommunity.com/asus-eee-transformer-2-could-be-coming-november-7th-20111011/

lots of people picking up on the nov 7th release date...wonder who started that rumor.

it seems like all the other links just refer to that one site that had it set for the 7th. someone COULD have photoshopped that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] asdfuogh:
Well, it'd be the mark of success in terms of financial warfare, you know? Took down the big guy, knocked down the giant, cut achilles' tendon, etc.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
From God's lips to BGR to you! :D

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/11/quad-...-2-tablet-may-be-set-for-november-7th-launch/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] raze1000:
Maybe you can send your mrs out with mine on a shopping trip as I will be doing the same. It may ease their pain Lol