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[Xperia Play General] Fokezy:
I think the reason really doesn't matter now....we don't have hdmi and it's not magically gonna appear,so why don't we find a way to go around it,maybe a wireless solution? If our phone can stream hd video to our tv and ps3,why cant it stream its own screen? We can take the files from the arc to make it think it's plugged in to hdmi so the system can adapt to display a higher resolution...the other thing would be to find a busted play and crank it open to see if there is a hidden hdmi port
[Xperia Play General] -josh-:
Just what I was going to say, surely it's possible to code an app that could wirelessly stream the phone screen that would be awesome!
[Xperia Play General] Dyelon:
I agree....maybe if we start a thread asking developers for help, maybe even a donation type situation like with PSXPERIA, we could make some headway...

a thread offering paypal donations and feedback/alpha/beta testing to spur progress in gaining TV-OUT capabilities seems like it might do the trick...

what do you guys think?
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
After the PSXperia experience, I don't think devs here have much incentive from bounties.
[Xperia Play General] Dousan:
I believe you're right in that presumption @Logseman, but still worth a shot I think, as only the dev knows for sure :D

Regards Dousan...
[Xperia Play General] Fokezy:
We can maybe ask blagus? I know his native language so I might send him something...
[Xperia Play General] cyberpic:
With an usb to HDMI adapater you can see your PC on hdmi screen They work like external GPU.

But but they work with windows and mac. I hope somebody will create android driver for this.
[Xperia Play General] Fokezy:
Could you explain that a little bit further...but I doubt you could transmit at such high data rates via 4 usb pins(2 for power),that's why hdmi cable has 16 pins...or I might be wrong,but you would need external hardware to encode compressed data to true HD
[Xperia Play General] Dousan:
@Fokezy I would give you a thanks for that sig, but then i would ruin it. Just love it :D

Regards Dousan...
[Xperia Play General] narflynn619:
usb to hdmi?!? isn't this an explanation enough?
[Xperia Play General] cyberpic:
You can find several adaptater on the net. They're not just USB to HDMI cable but they are external Graphic GPU for laptop.

But they work on windows and mac. Not androïd (there 's no driver for it). And they need good gpu.
[Xperia Play General] narflynn619:
Wake up people wake up!!!
[Xperia Play General] cyberpic:
I don't speak about usb to hdmi cable. I speak about standalone harware wich work like an external GPU.

Your android phone is like a PC. It just need a driver (software) for working with these converter.

If these converter can do the job with windows or mac OS, why not with android ?
[Xperia Play General] swebosdev:
My tablet has usb to hdmi for watching movies on the tv powered by the tablet, so pins have nothing to do with it
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
Thanks for this useful info!

:rolleyes:
[Xperia Play General] netorino:
I'm just gonna say the obvious thing here so we move on... It's a different hardware that has the same micro usb slot.

I think their answer was very clear regarding to usb-hdmi and people keep missing that.
[Xperia Play General] Fokezy:
If there is an external device to do this...I still wouldn't use it,i mean it just defeats the purpose of having a mobile phone with hdmi...which we dont...do why not go wireless? That external GPU has to be expensive.
[Xperia Play General] Trooper_Max:
I think both strategies being reached for here may be viable.

Strategy 1: Attempt to get the Play's usb controller into host mode and enable driver support for external display link technologies (external usb monitors or usb-to-hdmi adapters). This has been done previously for the Nexus One:

http://hackaday.com/2010/06/08/nexus-one-as-usb-host/

Example of a USB-to-HDMI adapter from an innovative company:

https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/dualscreen.htm

(they also have links to DisplayLink, which is the company that pioneered the USB monitors)

Unless there is some hardware technicality that prevents this from being possible, this should be doable - the Xperia Play is more powerful than the Nexus One. Not sure what performance one could actually achieve though and if it'd truly be HD.

Strategy 2: Wireless streaming - this option should be viable on a rooted phone (though it may be better achieved with further customization in the base ROM software itself). Would need to stream the screen output using a standard streaming video format recognized by a receiving device. That would be the disadvantage of this method is that you need a receiving device - unless your TV is smart enough to be able to receive a streamed video, which I imagine some newer TVs may be able to do. Otherwise, using a PS3 or computer to receive the stream and output it to a display should work.

~Troop
[Xperia Play General] cyberpic:
In fact, I don't looking for a solution for vidéo HD because it works fine with PS3 or , Blue ray with DNLA.

I'm looking for a TV out for playing games on big screen.

I think it's possible with laptops with some external device wich can convert usb to HDMI.

But these device are made for laptop and need windows or mac driver. I think it will be possible with android driver.

The price is between 30 and 90 €.

Sony's support doesn't work on this yet.
[Xperia Play General] Adam3Sixty:
I do believe the "micro-usb-like" cable u speak of is actually a micro-hdmi cable!!

http://ukhdmi.com/micro-hdmi-cable/

However, u all seem to be missing something, the "headphone" port.....

lots of devices use a 3.5mm headphone jack, that has *3* connections on it (left, right, mic in the case of our phones, left, right, VIDEO in the case of other devices) to output audio and video, its not in HD by a long shot, but it IS a way to get a tv out. All it would need is a driver or app that could changed the MIC input to a VIDEO output, and boom, grab one of these cables

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5mm-Jac...UK_Camera_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a653c8784

and ur sorted!! :)
[Xperia Play General] Dousan:
@adam3sixty I've been suggesting this in other threads, couldn't the jack stick be used. I have a Nokia N900 that does that. I think people are to hooked up on it has to be HDMI.

I will easily settle with tv out through the jack stick any day, I even have that cable you pictured (well just from nokia though).

That would make much more sense to me, to go for this and put a bounty up for that sort of development. It would even be a broader solution that every owner of a play will be able to use at any time regardless of tv, internet cornection og any other hardware limitations, the other suggestion would stumble into ;)

Regards Dousan...
[Xperia Play General] Trooper_Max:
@Adam3Sixty - yeah, that's prolly the one, but I haven't actually seen it since I don't have a device that supports it. I agree that video out the headphone jack would be a very cool option, even if it isn't HD - especially for retro gaming where HD doesn't really matter. Didn't realize it was possible though, has anyone pulled it off on any other phones or even with a laptop or any other devices? I imagine if that can work it would take a lot of very low-level work to rework how the system interacts with the headphone jack - but then I think the MIUI team used headphones as an FM receiver (at least on the Nexus One), so maybe there is hope.

~Troop
[Xperia Play General] Adam3Sixty:
@Trooper_Max -

My Nokia N82 8MP had a normal 3.5 headphone jack, and u could plug in a 3 RCA cable and view EVERYTHING the phone did on a tv screen. and like Dousan said, the Nokia N900 also does this. Many camcorders and digital camera use it too, so u can view the contect thru a tv without taking the memory card out.

This really does seem like the best way to go with it, it surely would be just finding the right places to change the mic input into a video output, which i'm sure could be done with just software. I am however not a hacker, coder or programmer so would have no way of doing it myself :(
[Xperia Play General] Dyelon:
Cool thanks for sharing your experience.....this seems like it's definitely worth a look....how was the quality of the video stream?
[Xperia Play General] Adam3Sixty:
It was exactly what u would expect when viewing a 2.5 inch (approx) screen on a 40 inch tv, lol. actually it was surprisingly clear, and good quality, when i had been out for the day with my kids, and taken loads of pictures and videos, it was great to connect the phone to the tv to see them all, and with the camera being so good on that phone, the photos always looked amazing, maybe not hd quality, but u could zoom them in and see all the detail in them.
[Xperia Play General] Dyelon:
Sweet sounds aesthetically functional enough
[Xperia Play General] Trooper_Max:
Apparently the Samsung Galaxy S or the Samsung Captivate (which is the AT&T version of the same phone according to what I read) has the capability to do video out the headphone jack:

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/02/samsung-galaxy-s-video-out-through-3-5mm-headphone-jack-um-yes/

Also found some hits on it here:

http://androidforums.com/android-ne...amsung-galaxy-s-via-3-5mm-headphone-jack.html

http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/148300-video-out-through-headphone-jack.html

EDIT: Found another article discussing the versatility of the headphone jack: http://www.tested.com/news/androids-headphone-jack-is-versatile-yet-underused/522/ (mentions video out at the end)

So I wonder if there is some code there somewhere that we can borrow or if they implemented it mostly in hardware (doubtful? but technically possible through integration with the display). Anybody know if this works under Cyanogenmod on these phones?

EDIT: Searched on the CyanogenMod forums and found this topic: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/.../page__hl__video+out+headphone__fromsearch__1

"It does not have the physical connector. Video via the headphone jack requires special hardware. And it is standard def. Hdmi and usb are unrelated. The host hack relies on an external displaylink device."

This suggests that video out via the headphone jack requires a special type of headphone jack and may not be possible by all standard headphone jacks...

As far as the video streaming approach, I was poking around a little and thinking uShare or the libraries it is built on might be some good candidates to consider, if they could be made to work on Android and then made to stream the screen content... unless there is already a simpler streaming server for Android. But uShare supports both uPnP and DLNA, which can be streamed directly to some modern TVs.

http://ushare.geexbox.org/

~Troop
[Xperia Play General] Cl8rs:
I have that cord you are talking about, the 3.5mm to 3 RCA. So would it work with our Xperia Plays?
[Xperia Play General] Trooper_Max:
That is the question. The first hurdle is figuring out if it is possible with the hardware. The post I mentioned on the Cyanogenmod forums above suggests that special hardware is required (ie a special enhanced headphone jack of some sort). If this is true and we don't have the right hardware, it will be a showstopper. If we do have compatible hardware, then it will be a matter of getting the software implemented/working.

That link again: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/.../page__hl__video+out+headphone__fromsearch__1

EDIT: Found something to try out for the streaming approach (link below) Not sure how well it will work, the article mentions lag. But it may at least be an acceptable way of letting others watch you on a computer.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ashot-handy-screenshot-tool-android-windows

Also, this link may or may not be useful: http://code.google.com/p/android-screenshot-library (if that could be used a starting point for developing a screencasting library)

~Troop
[Xperia Play General] swebosdev:
Why not just tether it to the laptop, hook the laptop to the tv. Use a remote viewer and a ps3 controller, pwn....
[Xperia Play General] Cl8rs:
Ahh okay, I am interested in this, so I will post back if I find anything :)
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
The headphone jack idea will not work. Its not something that can be switched on in hardware, the hardware has to be specifically wired to do it. Same with the HDMI/USB.

The short version is, unless we find a way to stream it, the Play will not be having a TV out, ever.
[Xperia Play General] Adam3Sixty:
I am no coder or hacker, but, the headphones socket on the Play has left, right and mic, meaning 3 connections inside the jack plug. The 3 rca idea uses 3 connections, left, right and video. So I'm sure the hardware is going to be basically same?? Just one uses the 3rd as a mic, the other uses it as a video out?
[Xperia Play General] White_Pointer:
I really don't understand this, what is the fascination of playing XPlay games on an HD TV? The games on the Xplay look good because it's a small screen. Blow it up to a HD TV and it's going to look like pixellated vomit. What exactly is the point of playing those games on a big TV? Play a normal console if you have access to a HD TV. The Xplay is a portable that's meant to be played on the move...not plugged into a TV.

As stated earlier in the thread you can already stream your music and videos to your TV from your XPlay via your PS3, so what exactly is the point of making portable games look like balls on a big TV? Can someone explain this to me as I really don't get it.
[Xperia Play General] swebosdev:
Its because there is a chance our plays can double as a home console since we can pair them with ps3 controllers, mouse, keyboards, most things bluetooth.

Who wouldnt want that?
[Xperia Play General] White_Pointer:
I dunno, maybe I'm just too much of a hardcore gamer but when I play games on an HD TV I play them to look good. I don't play them to look like pixellated shiite. I use my XPlay to play games while on the move and not at home. If I'm at home, I play my consoles or PC. If I want to use a ps3 controller, mouse, keyboard, whatever...I play my PS3, or my PC. It makes no sense to me why you'd want to hook this thing up to a TV for the purpose of playing games.

Like I said I don't get it. Streaming HD video? Yeah I can understand that. But these games were never developed to be played on a HD TV, they are optimised for a small, 4" phone screen. Why you'd want to blow that image up so it looks bigger but a billion times worse, I just don't understand.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
I have no doubt that the physical circuit board could be wired to the jack for it to work, thats how these dual ports work. However the Play is not wired that way, so unless you want to go resoldiering the circuit board in this thing (and you can even figure out how) I'd say any of these ideas are DOA.
[Xperia Play General] cyberpic:
you can play with N64 game on xperia play. The resolution of the game is better that phone games
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Since when are you a gamer? Most games across history have been played in big screens... And emulators are still best enjoyed in personal computers and other big-screen setups. People don't play Legend of Zelda in their Wii for how it looks.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
I totally agree, Plus we are now discussing normal AV out, as we have figured out HDMI output is impossible. The resolution of a normal SD tv is 640X480 LOWER than that of the xperia play, so in theory games would look better on a TV via AV pins than it would on the xplay :D
[Xperia Play General] Dousan:
The emu's rocks on the big screen. Had a lot of fun playing N64 (mostly mariokart 64) and some C64 games through my N900 on the telly with a Zmote or a Wiimote. I have a 42" plasma screen and the quality is alright and looked more or less as the games on the N64 console (the only thing the N900 had this red tint and was a tat to much saturated).

I'm all for gaming on the big screen and through a phone. I would be able to re-play some of the PSX tittles on a big screen again, as i don't own a PS1 anymore... Wait i kind of do lol.

It would make this phone more complete with this option.

Yes i do enjoy playing games on my X360 with much better graphics, but that's not al that matters's as the gameplay is not always following nor the stearing/controls in the game.

Regards Dousan...
[Xperia Play General] White_Pointer:
I've been playing for about...25 or 26 years. Started on the Intellivision. I've been around games quite a while.

The size of the screens that games are typically played on (well, console and PC games anyway) have got progressively larger as games have become more powerful. I was playing my Atari 7800 on a pretty crappy, small CRT TV. I played my SNES on a larger CRT TV. Fast forward to now and I'm playing my PS3 on a nice big HD TV. Trying to play retro games that I grew up with on that big TV though hurts my eyes. They were never designed for that screen resolution.

N64 games don't look quite as horrible though, I'll grant you that. But the difference between playing A Link to the Past on my small XPlay screen and blowing that up to my big HD screen is just night and day...it looks far better on the Xplay screen.
[Xperia Play General] swebosdev:
Buddy i play snes on my ps3 in full high def. Get yourself the cfw 3.55 your really missing out on alot
[Xperia Play General] Adam3Sixty:
This thread seems to be going off topic!!

I have a ps3, on 3.55.2 ReBug CFW, and yeah it's great!!

I think the biggest thing about this thread, like so many others on this site, was to MAKE OUR PHONE DO SOMETHING IT WASN'T MENT TO DO!!

No matter what it is u r "hacking" u are doing it for the sole purpose of making that device do what it wasn't originally intended to do, with consoles that almost always means piracy, but with a mobile its trying to get the most out of it that we can. If we, the public, can find a way to get a decent tv output from a phone that doesn't have a TV output then its a win for us!!

That's the way I see it anyway!!
[Xperia Play General] unrandomsam:
Er ... Sony
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[Motorola Triumph] dhman06:
Is there a Gingerbread (Android 2.3) ROM for Motorola Triumph? If anyone know can you please post the link or the file on this thread? Or Doesn't anyone know if I can take any other phone's ROM (closest or similar spec to Triumph) and use it for triumph? Please let me know. I'm just a user. Not much techy. I can do the basic stuff.
[Motorola Triumph] primetechv2:
Cyanogen Mod 7 is in the Android Developer section.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blaze9:
I'm looking at screen protectors right now. I decided to get the Otter Commuter case. Reviews say the included screen protector is terrible. So I'm getting a second one. I've look at a few. Moshin, Skinomi and invisibleSHIELD so far. I'm only getting a screen protector, not a whole-body cover.

I've heard some good reviews about invisibleSHIELD, but many say it gets dirty fairly quick. (Around the edges). Anyone have any first-hand experience? Any other recommendations?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] runtohell121:
Yes, I used it, and I hate it. With InvisibleShield, the screen doesn't feel as smooth as other screen protectors that I've used (PowerSupport USA, Belkin, Griffin, etc.) It seems to have a sticky feel to it when you're using the screen with IS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] NascarFastcar:
I got a moshin for free from the atnt rep. Prob the easiest and cleanest protector I ever put on. It's antiglare, but has a nice finish.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blaze9:
Ill order two. I'll need to replace one eventually. Thanks.

Sent from my Galaxy S2 i777 CM7 Nightlys
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dawhoo:
the Moshi, at least the one I got at ATT, says you can peel it off, wash it and then reattach it to the phone. It even recommends cleaning it by taking it off the phone. I can't wait to see how that really goes...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dandrumheller:
Between my wife and myself, we've had InvisibleShields on iPhone, Cappy and HTC Aria. Both of us are happy with them. I will agree with a previous poster that they can get a slightly "sticky" feel to them, but I find they are much better, in terms of long term wear and consistency, than either the static or dry adhesive types. They clean up very nicely with LCD screen cleaner and a lint-free cloth.

As of early last week, Zagg didn't have IS available specifically for the ATT version of the SGS2, so I took the advice of a poster on another thread and bought a pair of Int'l SGS2 protectors from ArmorSuit for about 10% the price of the Zagg product (the paraphrased advice was "for wet-applied screen protectors, they are all the same, buy the cheapest one"). To this point they appear extremely similar to the IS, so I may stick with them.

Hope that helps...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] onthezone:
I used invisible shield and body gaurdz, out of those 2 I like the body gaurdz the most.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] runtohell121:
All those "military grade" screen protector feels the same... lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] skins2win:
I've used it on my old iPhones. They are pretty useless, you lose the screen quality and the touch and feel of it.

They don't protect the screen at all, their warranties only cover the plastic not the screen so it's pointless. Only use for the covers is on the back of a phone since they get a lot of surface damage.

I would just get any type of cover and not waste 20+ on name brand military grade protectors.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thejanitor86:
i used a few different ones on the captivate. but i loved the Invishield one the most. i liked the more rubber texture and it is insanely tough. The same one has been on the phone for 2 years so far and it still looks great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jiannichan:
I hate them. They are crappy and they seem to lower the quality of the image of the screen. I can't stand the feel of them. The best one I've used so far were Realooks. I used that on my Captivate and my wifes HTC. After putting it on, the image quality stays the same and it doesn't look or feel like there is a protector on there. I don't plan on using one for this phone.