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[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] drewoj:
Crap! I'm still a deer in the headlights

I really really thought I was on the right track, but after 3 hrs. I'm giving up for tonight. I odined ClockworkMod_Recovery_v5.5.0.4 back to the old girl, no problem. then I put my old backup created with same version in (from my Win7 pc) Computer\GT-P7310\Internal storage\clockworkmod\backup I tried putting the date named folder there, and then just the files there. when I ran clockwork restore it doesn't find any backups. then I saw in the internet that it might be looking for the backup under some \data path, so I put the backup folder there, still it doesn't find the backup. so, as a last resort I ran a ClockworkMod backup, figuring then I could see where it puts the backup, and I could put my old backup there. the backup indicated it ran fine, but of course I don't see anything new on the tab. which makes me think it's in some other part of the memory, which to this day I still don't understand. sd card? internal storage? this device doesn't have an sd card, at least not a removable one, so where is ClockworkMod putting and looking for backups? how to I access that area of the memory? 4 yrs ago i must have known this b/c I copied that backup to my pc. so confused!!!
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] drewoj:
i can't believe it took my this long to find my last post. since this site is still here, it must be pretty popular, but I really don't see how with such a difficult and mysterious way to find your last post and check for replies. whatever. so I guess my tab is no longer rooted like it obviously once was. I'll either figure it out or take my hatchet to it and buy a new one. later people!
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] bierma32:
CWM put the Backup into the data partion. You don't see this ,if your device arent rooted.

Try to update your Recovery to the newest TWRP an take a backup. Now you can see this in your internal Sdcard .
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] drewoj:
Thanks for responding. I haven't given up yet. No hurry. Right, i figured as much. It's not rooted right now. looking in my 'brickthetablet' folder on my pc i have a few different root .zip files. I must have used one of them to root it when it was still stock ICS. I tried running those with cwm recovery but they don't seem to work, although CWM does say it ran them. I guess i need a root zip file for my specific cyanogenmod version? (there's that deer in the headlights again)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] drewoj:
The deer has been run over by several trucks, driven by yours truely. I've bricked it. It's actually quite a relief. What I've learned... it was fun learning how this crap works, I only did it to spite samsung for abandoning the tab 8.9. updating to OS versions beyond what a device was designed for is probably a bad idea. if you're very careful. and you do this meaningless **** every day, you might be able to pull off what I just failed at. Last note.. no big deal, this tab is like 5 yrs old, it wasn't even new/current when I over paid for it. I had to buy I refurb, b/c it was discontinued. time for a new one, I'll be sharpening up the hatchet soon to put this thing out of my misery.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Natepir:
Is this the right place to ask for help with my samsung galaxy tab s2 8"? I'm confused and new to this site!

---------- Post added at 02:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:20 PM ----------

Also new to Tapatalk app. My tab updated to Android 7.0 last night and now the Samsung kindle app won't function. What forum should I go to?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
Have my 8.9 for just few days and today it bricked after I disconnected it from PC and powered down. Stock rom, unrooted, plain factory as it was.

Now it wont boot up,black screen

Does it have hard reset button somewhere?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
Ok, false alarm. I held all three buttons for a while then released all and tabled booted up. Weird. Went to Market and upgraded to latest Netflix 1.5 and.... it WORKS great without a patch. Awesome!

Still wonder what happened to my tab when was not responding for few minutes. Any ideas?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] exp:
Hello everyone

I have an insert the sim error on my hands. Every once in a while the device looses its connection with the sim card and the only way to solve this is to replace the sim with the one on my phone and turn the device on with it and replace it back with my original tablaet sim. i read that this issue is also present on some 10.1" versions as well. do you think i should replace the device?

Thanks.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1270281
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] varsas:
I keep reading comments regarding stuttering on the home screen; is this much worse than on the 10.1? If so then how can that be given the hardware is the same?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
Its the same on both. Once I turned these useless window animations in Settings, the stutter went away and my tab is much more responsive.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] varsas:
Thanks; in that case it seems people are making more of the issue with the 8.9 than they did with the 10.1.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
It's honestly not that bad once you use ADW EX launcher. Most of the lag issues people are experiencing out of the box can be resolved (for the most part) with minor tweaks. I think I've said it before, but I'll say it again: once this device gets a little more momentum in its community developement, everything will smooth out.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] jp_macaroni:
Im disappointed that there aren't any 8.9 media dock around anywhere :mad:
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
I agree.

I was already using ADW on my SGS2 with Cyanogen, so took the plunge and invested in ADW EX. Brilliant decision! ;)

I think there should always be a user option to go with maximum performance or maximum pretty. It's almost a different tab with ADW EX. Depends how much you actually use the launcher screens though. A lot of users just jump from app to app.

I can see the keyboard dock in the online stores, but they all say they're waiting... grrrr....
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Apart from the size difference, the 10.1 media dock works just fine actually.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] thndd:
I just tried ADW EX launcher. My gt8.9 dont lag anymore on the homescreen! You guys should give it a try
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Has anyone figured out a solution to this yet? I mean, so far, if I want to transfer anything to my Tab, I have to put it on a flash drive and use my USB OTG adapter. This method works, of course, but it's just another step that none of us should have to take. :P
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
I have just purchased OEM Samsung media dock for my new 8.9 tab. It's great and is becomes invisible once you dock your tab, do not bother getting larger 10.1 dock because 8.9 is there. You can order it straight from samsung website, look for p/n EDD-D1C9BEGSTA.

$35 with free shipping.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] bigbrovar:
Is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 worth Buying?

Hi guys, after checking out lots of reviews and youtube videos I am still not sure about the galaxy tab 8.9. I love the form factor has I consider it just the right sweet spot for me. I need the tablet mainly for reading, surfing the web, casual gaming and video.. (and of cause emailing and skype)

My main concern has been in the areas of lag which most users complain of. I just want to know if this issue is that much of a deal breaker. How bad is the lag issue. And is the device slow in its functions.? I use a galaxy S2 and I never experience any lag on the device. But most importantly the galaxy S2 is very fast and snappy. I don't experience any slow down when opening an application or using the device. can the same thing be said of the galaxy tab 8.9?

Lastly as a user are you satisfied with the tablet, and would you have gotten it again if you go back in time.

I look forward to an honest opinion which I hope would help me decide whether to get the device (I am sure it would also help many other users sitting on the fence)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] chegs_pro:
Is there any possibilities that we will get phone function enabled in galaxy tab 8.9?

I've looking around but no succeed. But in gsmarena says it can make sim voice call.

I've tried the trick that works in HTC Flyer but didn't work.

I hope devs focusing in this part rather than custom rom, cause i guess there's a lot people want this function.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] chegs_pro:
Until now i'm still not satisfied. Lag. No sim phone call. Gaming is not that fast. Expensive.

Some people change the launcher with ADW EX to reduce lag in home screen.

I'll consider it back if i can turn back time.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
Well, for what it's worth - my honest opinion.

I also own an SGII, so can compare directly. The SGII is snappy, that's for sure. Actually, it's blazingly fast, especially when you stop using the stock firmware/launcher.

The same can be said for the 8.9. Perhaps not blazingly fast, but fast and smooth enough. I'm using ADW EX Launcher, and everything runs smoothly. The only time I did experience a bit of slowdown was when I was using a quite intensive Live Wallpaper.

I use it mainly for info & news (becoming addicted to Pulse), mails, reading, chatting, gaming. Don't expect it to deliver results disproportionate to its hardware.

I'm perhaps not a hardcore gamer, but I've been playing Dungeon Defenders : Second Wave, which is fully rendered 3D, and doesn't pose the tablet any problems.

It doesn't suffer from many of the same Freeze/FC issues on stock firmware that the SII has to put up with.

My biggest regret was that it was advertised with an SD card slot, and didn't come with one. The bespoke USB could also potentially be a little disappointing for some people.

Sounds is surprisingly good (as long as you keep your fingers away from the speakers.. ;) )

Oh, and it's a thing of beauty. Should mention that. Great looking, wonderful screen quality, nice feel, and lightweight. Good size for a handheld device.

Oh, but you know the drill.

Do your research (which you're kinda doing now!), if possible, take a test drive.

I'd be lost without my tab now.

The only reason I'd go back in time and not order it, would be to avoid the feeling of missing having it... :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Much agreed. The stock launcher is, oh how can I put this lightly? Complete and utter shyte...

As for speed and performance throughout the rest of the device, it's all about what you would expect from a Tegra 2. To put it another way, it's a hell of a lot faster and more responsive than the original 7" tab, but it's no SGS2.

I mean ok, let's be honest here, for those of us who have an SGS2, specifically any of the versions with the mighty Exynos chip in them (*glares at the T-Mobile version*), we've been rather spoiled by how massively powerful it is. Tegra 2 is fast, but Exynos is in a whole different class; like comparing a BMW M3 to a Bugatti Veyron.

I guess my point is, if you're mainly using the 8.9 tab for email, web browsing, music and videos, etc. it is more than adequate and worth its price.

If, however, you're expecting it to be the monster powerhouse that any Exynos running device is, you will be sorely disappointed.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] bigbrovar:
Thanks guys you have been very helpful. According to Overcome rom for 10.1, samsung for some reason disabled hardware acceleration from the honeycomb touchwiz UI hence the shuddy performance. Overcome was able to enable it and according to a friend on twitter his 10.1 is as smooth as silk. I guess we would see more improvement once the custom roms start getting cooked :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
The 8.9 version hits right in the spot between bulky iPad size 10.1 and too small 7 inch first gen SGT.

It's the right size whenever I am cramped on tight seat of Airbus airplane or laying in my bed holding the tab againt my chest. They hit the nail this time for me and I love it
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] SGSChris:
how to improve battery life

Hi all, just found this:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...ove-android-tablet-battery-life/?tag=mncol;1n

tried it on my 8.9. it works, however when I start the phone I get 2 error messages that require force close:

1. process com.sec.android.factorytest has stopped unexpectedly

2. process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly

only happens once after startup. not sure yet about effect on battery life. will monitor and report.

btw - I was very annoyed with the lag. but for me also ADW launcher EX fixed it - highly recommended!

cheers chris

Edit: this is NOT recommended. it appears that the phone.apk is connected to other apks in a non-obvious manner. For example - I am loosing my camera functionality (stops taking pictures) when I remove the phone.apk. fortunately, it immediately works again when I restore phone.apk.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
Forgot to add something in my quick 8.9 summary - the mobile network reception is excellent. I've been playing some online games on public transport, and my SGS2 loses connection every time over a certain stretch of approximately 1km. My tab does not. :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
It should be noted that this fix is for the WiFi only version. If you do this with the GSM tab, you'll lose mobile network data. Just FYI. ;)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
It is natural that tablets have better reception simply because they are larger. This makes antenna design more effective many times also larger which brings better sensitivity. Engineers have less headache when designing RF circuits for tablets comparing to smartphones.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
I'd be surprised to hear if anyone has a real problem with the battery life. I use my tab on and off, certainly don't need to charge it every day like I did my last one.

If I have it in standby (screen off), it consumes only a pitiful amount of charge.

Yes, thank you Captain Obvious... :rolleyes:

I mentioned it, because that although theoretically, it should be the case, practically, for this unit, it may not have been.

It's a bit like saying a 3.5l engine should produce more power than a 3l engine. Isn't always the case. :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] nirogu325:
News link

It's kinda obvious it was coming but fun to read. :D
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
This is awesome news.

It's aways been a worry with Samsung producing so many devices that this would be detrimental with regards to updates etc.

Personally, I think it's a smart move. They've produced a range of products so that there is something for everyone (critics of course say Samsung is "confused" and are "desperately trying to find the right size device" etc).

As long as they keep everything up to date with the latest firmware, then they've put themselves in an incredibly strong market position.

In other news, I received my 8.9 keyboard dock yesterday. Typing on it now (whilst being a car passenger).

It's really swish.... :)

If anybody finds a list of keyboard shortcuts, please let me know. It's the only thing I'm currently lacking... :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
I am sorry but what the h. are you talking about Mr.AllKnowyy? Rewind that tape and watch the movie again.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
You'd have to ask my Uncle about engines... he's the expert.

As for tablets, I'm drawing on my own personal experience.

I have an older tablet with super cruddy reception. Size doesn't necessarily equate to superior performance - it's nice for someone to verify what, in theory, should be true.

Now.. if you *really* want to know about the engine thing, I'll find out all about it. :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] gshark:
Cases??

Hi everyone,

So I just got my tab 8.9 and was wondering which case to get for it.

Any recommendations?

Thnx

GShark
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Loccy:
Depends what you want, but I am very very pleased with the Samsung "book" case. Beautifully designed, adds very little bulk to the device, and works well as a stand. The only thing is that there is no protection for the edges of the device, as is often the case with these clip-in jobbies.

That's precisely what I want out of a case - but your mileage may vary.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
I have been using the WaterField Designs Ultimate Sleeve case. It might be a bit on the pricey side, but it fit's perfectly (the 38-24 size), and has a premium feel well matched to the 3G 8.9.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] choccy31:
I'm gutted at how expensive they are - as I really want one! :-(
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Yeah, like I said, they sure are pricey, but it was worth the price for me. Very slim and minimalist design; just like the tab itself!

My only qualm with it that the pocket on the back of the sleeve doesn't have anything to hold it shut, like a zipper, or Velcro, or anything. Might have to make that modification myself...
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
I bought slim Samsung OEM pouch and it is great. Having it I can still enjoy thinnest tablet out there held bare in my hands while the pouch is used as a backup just in case I want to put tablet on the table.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] johnd603:
I bought the CaseCrown Trifold:

http://www.casecrown.com/samsung-galaxy-8-9-bold-trifold-black

And couldn't be happier with it. As well - it arrived to me in four days, and they are in CA and I'm in NH..

Uses magnets and folds into several stand types... And - it won't "break the bank" ;)

My only "I wish it did" - was allow for charging with the cover closed, as the spine covers the charging port with the cover in place (as most do)..

Hope this helps!

John
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] gshark:
Thnx everyone for all the suggestions :D

I finally got this one:

amazon.com/CaseCrown-Standby-Black-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B005H3VPW2/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_1_0

I can't post entire link yet.

The offer was too good to pass, and I'll let you all know how it is when it gets here (7 business days for international shipping).

Thnx again
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] alexbush:
US UK versions

Just to get away from the absorbing topic of cases :)

Posted this in the 10.1 forum but got no answer. Are there any significant differences between UK and US versions apart from the fact you lucky Americans pay 30% less? Would I have firmware or other issues if I bought a gt8.9 in the US for future use in the UK?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
In the UK, at least you have the option of buying a 3G version. Not in the US though, unless you import, like I did. Regarding the WiFi-only versions though, the hardware is identical, so you can run whatever compatible firmware you want really.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] alexbush:
You're right about 3g but I only want wifi (when the 32gb is available here). No issues with replacing a US firmware with a UK one then? Device will accept it?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] tri0xinn:
have had my 10.1 for about a week.. love it other than it's a bit awkward so I'm gonna take it back to bestbuy tonight and swap it for the 8.9. I've read through the postings but would like to hear from anyone that's done the same and if they miss anything from their 10.1.. or is the 8.9 all that!
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] daCLOUD:
I originally had the 10.1 and it was just too big to carry around and hold with one hand. I now have the 8.9 and its much better and also lighter then the 10.1.

Main problem: My 10.1 was running pure honeycomb with no TouchWiz I never did the update. The thing was supper snappy and responsive. Now the 8.9 comes with TouchWiz and lags all over the place. Even just searching the market I notice the difference. Really disappointed since its the same hardware inside.

The 8.9 also now has the speakers on the bottom next to charging plug instead of on the sides. This is good since I was always putting my hand over the speakers on the 10.1 when holding it. And to be really picky the 8.9 has the Samsung name on the front of the tablet. The 10.1 didn't and looked much cleaner.

Besides that its a great tab and once some Dev's get their hands on it it should be great. Maybe you also want to take a look at the 7.0 Plus its also out on Amazon now.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] esdwa:
I keep my tab upside down whenever I want its speakers to be on the top. Simple.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
Did you try using a launcher other than TouchWiz?

Many people here, myself included, are using ADW EX. Brings back the snappy. ;)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] tri0xinn:
well.. thanks for the feedback.. I went ahead and did the exchange.. in fact I got an open box one for $405(10 percent off original price). It was in perfect condition I checked it out first. So I got $95 back and in my opinion a much nicer sized tablet. Feels way better in the hand(s), I'd say close to perfect. .. Now for the bad.. why the heck would this run any different than the 10.1 if the specs are the same. The 10.1 wasn't perfect out of the box but this one's quite a bit worse. Took me some time but loading Overcome rom and installing adw ex it's running smooth. So weird that Samsung will try to beat the ipad in every way as far as the physical characteristics but completely f'up when it comes to the way the thing operates. Pick up an ipad 1 or 2 and it's silky smooth compared to these things... for some reason we have to spend hours rooting and installing custom roms to get our tablets operating alot better.. but still not quite as good... sorry for the venting but it's like every other company is nipping at apples heals but never quite catches them in this respect.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] poisike:
I already have a 10.1 and thinking about buying a 8.9 also. 10.1 runs very smooth with KI1 firmware and i'm happy with the performance. So i'm worried to see so many complaints about 8.9 not running smooth. 8.9 is not smooth even with KI1 or KI2 firmware? And second question, how is the battery life compared to the 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 General] Deciduous Sprue:
Ok. I don't get it.

There are people talking about having to root their tabs and flash new roms get it anything near iPad standards.

There's a bit of lag on the home screen because of Touchwiz. Some people like the functionality of Twz over the speed. If you don't like it, use a different launcher. Plenty free available. No need to root. Takes just a minute.

So. That's taken care of.

Anything else? I never experienced any problems with lag or fc's in any applications.. Games or otherwise. You people are actually using the tabs for a purpose, right? You're not just complaining about the launcher? That would be like complaining about a car's dashboard, despite it looking and running great. And despite the fact you can have a different dashboard for free if you didn't like the one it came with.

Sure.. The iPad works just how you want, straight out of the box. But for others, it doesn't.

Horses for courses.

The 8.9 is a fantastic tab that needs very little tweaking, and has all the unrestricted advantages of Android. You get out of it what you put in, and that's why it's better than the iPad (2).. It doesn't matter what you put into that, you'll always get the same out. This makes it great for the technically less savvy, and for a while yet, those people will never get to grips with Android.

But, for now, those of us with the Android tabs are the winners.. Even if the others can't see it.