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[Atrix 4G General] iRobby:
Hmmmm.. mirroring by default??? I sense a port coming over to the original and better atrrix ;)

Sent from my CM860 ;)
[Atrix 4G General] lilhaiti:
Droid Bionic for ATT minus the LTE...wait, why not release the phone with LTE? Epic Fail!!!
[Atrix 4G General] Ultra Droid:
I agree - a crashing failure for Motorola and AT&T. :)

-Mike
[Atrix 4G General] captaincanada84:
Meh... Totally not impressed by this. My unlocked, rooted, and CM7'd Atrix blows this away.
[Atrix 4G General] ranova:
Regarding all the Android phones announced for AT&T:

Manufacturers: "This phone didn't turn out as intended, let's send it to AT&T."
[Atrix 4G General] agnaw:
WTF, Atrix 2 can really help motorola to catch up with apple!!!:mad::mad:
[Atrix 4G General] lilhaiti:
LOL

10Char
[Atrix 4G General] nightfox11:
HAHAHAHA!!! thats all i have to say...
[Atrix 4G General] lilhaiti:
This is actually a nice phone, the real failure is in the name. If it were called anything else it would not have been as big of a failure(mandatory fail for not releasing LTE). Can't wait to see what drops in 2012.
[Atrix 4G General] captaincanada84:
It is a nice phone. It's just not much more than the Atrix we all know and love.
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:
Im good with mine....this refresh is a de-fresh haha
[Atrix 4G General] IUH1991:
Indeed, when I think of the Atrix two things come up: fingerprint scanner and webtop.

Although most people see this as a gimmick, it is still unique to the Atrix and were major selling points for it. To call a new phone the Atrix 2 should imply that it still carries BOTH of these features and is a step up from the original.
[Atrix 4G General] k0sun7eash3d:
WTF... Google buys Motorola and this is the best they can come up with?

Haha I know that has nothing to do with it, but I just had to say it. The Atrix 2 just isn't enough of an upgrade over the Atrix. They may as well have called it the AtrixS. 8 Months is just too early in a production cycle to release a direct upgrade to a brand. Although for $99 the price point seems just right for this kind of device, I'm sure they'll be selling a lot of these to some former Captivate owners.
[Atrix 4G General] Phoneguy589:
I swear I wish I ran some of these companies....Did anyone see the 5 "new" android phones they are releasing? Seems like a waste of development skills on their part.
[Atrix 4G General] TheBassman369:
+100000000
[Atrix 4G General] feriy:
What? This is Atrix2 ? I was wondering Motorola should use Tegra 3 on it. :D:D

needn't updating.

I think this is only a " Marketing strategy" just like Defy and Defy+.
[Atrix 4G General] fleurdelisxliv:
i love my atrix 1 :D
[Atrix 4G General] captaincanada84:
Yeah, it definitely shouldnt be the Atrix 2, since that does imply an upgrade to the original. I dont see anything upgraded except for the camera. In fact, they've removed more than they added.
[Atrix 4G General] Jaytronics:
I am going to second on that greedy corporate crap. All these micro incremental upgrades are getting on my nerves. And on top of that, the fact that these corporations take features away from a second generation phone? Utterly, disgustingly, positively bull s#@%. I like Motorolas phones when they release something with quality parts and feel to them. And some sort of innovation as well. I have the Xoom, and I would have had to drop kick someone if it were not for the Dev community. I mean releasing a Tablet without working SD card slot? That was maddening on its own. And waiting for the ability to have 4G? They can take a flying leap off a very high cliff with sharp rocks at the bottom. I will not be buying from Motorola for a long time until they decide to do something cool and quality like with there devices. And, with everything working on them as well. For now I think I'll be sticking with my Xoom and Thunderbolt. This setup that I have here does everything I need it to and then some. Mostly all thanks to you guys in the Dev community. To all the corporations that try something frigging hard to screw us. Here's a big fat middle one for you.

P. S. Do us all a favor, yeah all you corporate wind bags. Please please please go light your selves on fire and then fall off of your yachts into waters swarming with sharks.

To everyone that reads this. I truly am not an angry guy. I just absolutely loath greedy people. Also, please do not take away from this that I have something against any one with money. Even poor people can be greedy. It's just a bit more noticeable with those whom have it. Ok, now I am done with my rant.

Sent from my Xoom that's using my Thunderbolts teather feature from the XDA app
[Atrix 4G General] Eddie Bombay:
WTB Moto Atrix 2S

This is Android we talking about, THE NEXT BEST THING EVERY MONTH!
[Atrix 4G General] bigdog_nick:
Seems like a downgrade to me. I'm very happy with the current camera, happy about the unlocked bootloader and definitely happy about CM7. They are downing the internal to 8gb :| Nope, i like all my storage space!
[Atrix 4G General] shady_lanem:
Would have been better if it's called Atrix+
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
or the Atrix-?
[Atrix 4G General] techi23:
+1

10char
[Atrix 4G General] feriy:
Atrix- amazing~~~:eek::eek:
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
Motorola's move here fails. They called it Atrix 2, maybe they draw some loyal Atrix users? Like everybody here noticing the obvious, half ROM and no FP scanner? Lol, why would anyone choose the Atrix 2 over a SGS 2...
[Atrix 4G General] GerardAnthony:
So 8 months from now, will there be an Atrix 3? I usually update once an year. I put my phones though a lot wear and tear over an year. I really like Motorola phones. So if they don't have a new phone around that time, I guess I'm switching brands.

From the Mighty Atrix 4G
[Atrix 4G General] billyblonco:
atrix -1

Does this phone have dual band WiFi like the og? And what's the battery size? I see they already have and extended battery for it on moto's website.
[Atrix 4G General] freshbakd:
atrix2 my ass prime or wait a little longer for quad core phones that will actually be using them. ICS is supposed to be optimized for multi core support. Since google bought moto mobility thought it was possible good would come of this. Assuming prime was already in the works next google phone maybe moto?
[Atrix 4G General] rquinn19:
How? You don't have finger print scanner. It has webtop you don't. It has a better camera and screen. You only have more storage. It also has a better processor.

It might not be worth the upgrade but don't get carried away.
[Atrix 4G General] againareku:
Now that I'm thinking of it, I'm glad that this phone is coming out!

The developers will most likely spend more time applying the hdmi mirroring and 1080p video fixes to our atrix versus developing on the atrix 2
[Atrix 4G General] rquinn19:
waiting for the outcry when ICS doesn't make it to the Atrix 4g...I'm guessing it won't be on any Tegra 2 device...just a guess
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
If the name wasn't Atrix2, no one would care as much IMO...
[Atrix 4G General] G-Man.:
The Atrix came out Feb 22nd if you had a pre-order, and a few days later if you did not.... You're way off thinking it didnt come out until April...
[Atrix 4G General] LivingChampion:
That's pretty cheesy of them...I knew there would be new Motorola 4g phones, but why would they name it the Atrix 2?
[Atrix 4G General] DJQ1212:
Wow what a flop! I went into an att outta town just to see if they had a lapdock to show my friend ( and see if they went down on the price) they said they no longer carried the phone or lapdock because it didn't sell well and now they turn around and remove some features and storage size? ...smh fail im glad I got this one and I like my atrix
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
your guess would be wrong. if Tegra 2 can run Honeycomb, it will run ICS.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
the AT&T by my house (where i got my Atrix) still has some in stock. i guess it's a regional thing?
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
He's not saying it can't run ICS. Even the Nexus 1 will probably get it. He's saying Motorola probably won't bother updating the Atrix to ICS. The Atrix was obviously a flop since they were so quick to release an Atrix 2. They're most likely not going to bother with the work required to release an ICS update to a phone that did not sell well at all.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
isn't google pressuring phone manufacturers to push updates to all phones for 18 months after release? and with Google buying out Motorola, i'd say we have a decent chance at getting an official ICS build.
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
8 months cycle for a phone is just 4 months shy of a year refresh which most people are doing anyways. I think they just wanted to get a 4.3inch screen phone out there to compete during the Fall season/holidays.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
One, the deal hasn't even gone through yet. Two, they only bought it for the patents. There's almost no chance anything changing at MotoMobility at all. Three, that only applies to handsets released AFTER that announcement. Four, the agreement was only for updates and maintenance to the phone itself, ie incremental updates to the Android OS and bugfixes. No where did they ever promise major Android updates. ie As long as they release bugfixes as needed and maybe throw in a tiny upgrade like the Atrix got from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2, they abide by the agreement.

I can guarantee you the Atrix sold very poorly. You can easily tell just by the sheer number of price drops it received shortly after release. That the Atrix 2 is being released at merely $99 on contract is just another nail in the coffin. And yes, 8 months is extremely short for a direct upgrade, especially since they didn't even change the bulk of the components. There's a reason why Samsung and HTC devices sell better than Moto Devices. Hell even the Bionic, which was supposed to also be a Tegra 2 device, was delayed so they could put in the more powerful OMAP4 in it.
[Atrix 4G General] Mgamerz:
If the Atrix didn't have such a retarded marketing scheme (although it is easy to tell people its the 'is it a laptop is a it a phone' phone), it might have sold. Same with Verizon's LTE commercials. Seriously? Quit this lightning BS!
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
well, unless you work for Moto and know for a fact their plans for the Atrix 1, then i'd say just stop spreading rumors that it won't get any updates and wait and see like the rest of us. only Motorola knows what is in store for our phone, if anything at all.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Just like the Milestone was dropped from getting a gingerbread update even though the phone was out for only a year and they even promised gingerbread earlier? Money makes decisions. Why can I not speak my opinion that Moto will not release ICS for the Atrix when other people are speculating that it will? It sure does smell like double standards. I'm being realistic here. When a manufacturer doesn't even release the total number of sales a device got in its quarterly reports and releases a direct successor a mere 8 months later, it's obvious that the original phone sold poorly. Even analysts state that the xoom and atrix sales were disappointing.
[Atrix 4G General] dude772:
+1 I REALLY like my finger print sensor and gobs of memory. The only downfall I feel the atrix has that can be improved is the camera quality(i upgraded from the sony x10 with an 8mp camera) and the lapdock to have a scroll ability
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
You are correct in the phone did not sell at the price point it originally launched at, and neither did the Lapdock, but both have only received one price drop, and since then have sold rather well.

I do work in a COR AT&T store. We still have both in stock but with the launch of the 2 on Sunday, the original is officially EOL, and will be sent back to the manufacturer.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Atrix 2 also has a better display. It is slightly bigger but also not a pentile display anymore. Battery is slightly smaller and it has half the storage of the original. The build quality is supposed to be higher too as preliminary reports say it feels heftier and more solid than the original.
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
For the record, the Bionic got switched to a TI OMAP processor because it played better with the LTE radios, not because it is more powerful.

Both the TI OMAP and Tegra 2 have their own pros and cons, but the reason Moto changed them out is because of the LTE radio compatibility at the time.

p.s. actually holding the Atrix 2 will tell you that it does not feel heftier. Contrary to what you said, it actually feels lighter than the original Atrix and also looks thinner but not really. The finish of the product is much better, mostly in the battery cover.
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
Exactly, not major upgrades. I think it won't sell better than the first Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] donharden2002:
So the 4s is a monumental leap and this isn't. Going from a 4" qhd pentile screen to a 4.3" qhd non pentile screen isn't a leap forward. The screen is going to look beautiful on this and should have much better viewing angles also. The camera is a pretty big jump from the original as well and going to the ti omap dual core processor should help out as well with being able to o/c easier and much higher than the 1.3 that we are stuck at with the t2.

No fingerprint reader, who really uses it?

With the iPhone 4s they put a newish processor in it and called it a year, monumental?
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
I use the fp scanner every day...
[Atrix 4G General] mvgc3:
It's all opinion. The Atrix 1's screen is fine for me, and I'm usually picky about things like that. I was pretty worried with what I read about the pentile display, but when I actually picked up the phone I could not for life of me figure out what all the hubbub was about. I've noticed it maybe 2 times in the 3+ months I've had the phone. Not to mention 4 inches is the sweet spot for size, in my opinion. 4.3 is a bit too much.

The camera is also not a big deal to me. I rarely take pictures, and the camera on the Atrix 1 takes decent enough photos for the few occasions that I'd need it. If you want amazing pictures in any condition get an actual camera, is my philosophy on the matter.

OCing, while cool, isn't that important. I have my phone OCed, but only because I can; there aren't apps or games that I've seen that would benefit from it, at least not yet.

And finally, the fingerprint sensor. I've actually been kinda bummed that with all the new phones coming out, none have had one. I thought it would be a dumb thing that I'd never use, but now I love it. Even when I think about it and realize anyone with a slight knowledge of the phone could easily circumvent it, it still makes me feel like my info is a little safer.

So, as much as I despise the iPhone, the 4S is actually a bigger upgrade to it's predecessor than the Atrix 2. Even being completely objective, it's only an improvement. The Atrix 2 cuts the internal memory in half.
[Atrix 4G General] UnCommonGrafx:
Wow,

It's like the movies and prequels: they seem to go for worse, not better.

Quad-Core, fp and I would be ok. Hope they have luck with the phone. I see it being $25.00 in a month. Nothing outstanding about it such that it should/would outsell atrix 1. Ha, maybe they will make money on the Atrix 1 now.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Quadcore SoCs aren't even out at the moment. And the only Quadcore planned to be released anytime soon is the Tegra 3 which won't perform as well as you think it will. A slightly upgraded GPU and 2 extra cores are the only changes. IE single threaded performance, which is all that really matters until every app optimizes for multicore, will remain unchanged.
[Atrix 4G General] KingKuba13:
SGS2 was dropped to 0$ on contract from $169 here in canada after a couple weeks.

Got my Atrix for 0$ also in March. Contract prices drop fast unless it's for sucker iphone users.
[Atrix 4G General] baberswallet:
is this screen better then the first atrix? also what is battery size?
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
SGS2 also sold 10 million units whereas the Atrix sold nowhere near the same amount.
[Atrix 4G General] NickS_:
Just a question. I have full insurance on my Atrix thru AT&T. Say it got broken in a few months, if I bring it back will they replace it with an Atrix 2?

They told me when I purchased the coverage that I'd get to choose from three "comparable" phones. Lord knows what that'll be, all I know is, the deductible costs more than what I paid for my Atrix ($199 as of 10/4, what bull**** :mad:)
[Atrix 4G General] Maroon Mushroom:
I've learned my lesson from Motorola. I won't be going back to them until there's no Motoblur UI and it's 100% google.

Next phone will be the Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
my next phone will be whenever they release a quad core nexus phone. until then, CM7 on my Atrix is all i need.
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
Although I do work in a COR store, I am not a phone Rep, sorry not familiar with the deductibles. As far as replacement of your device, it depends what warranty aka Asurion has on hand. I am sure they will have standard Atrix on hand for some time. Just because they are pulling them out of the stores doesn't mean they won't be available online or through warranty.
[Atrix 4G General] phro321:
The worst part besides the phone itself. Who ever upgraded for the original, is that you can only upgrade once a year. which is what att told me.
[Atrix 4G General] zoso28:
Got my hands on one today.. felt nothing like my og atrix. Its a nice phone in general but in no way an atrix II. Such a shame

Sent from my SGS2 killer
[Atrix 4G General] Victor B:
How did it feel? How thin was it? How was the build quality compared to the OG Atrix? Is the screen that much better?
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Wow minus the 8GB of Storage is a bit retarded if you ask me and quite a downgrade and they didn't even bother to upgrade the CPU the rest just seems meh when considering what this one has already plus you have to Wait for bootloader and all that to be unlocked just to get the phone feeling as smooth as this one does..... Yea Motorola way to screw yerselves out of potential consumers lol
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
Yup, 8GB didn't make sense. What if I'm an heavy webtop/lapdock user, my 32gb card and my internal memory also full (docs, music, movies, projects, etc) and I want to upgrade? Go through all the stuff and start deleting? Is the ROM that expensive and they couldn't afford 16.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
There will be a version of it available. The only question is whether it will be stock or not?...
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Part of me is a little bothered by the Atrix being EOL this soon by AT&T.

Then again this is still a XDA supported phone and phones like the Nexus 1 are still doing very well... ;)
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
A cheap TPU case makes the original Atrix heftier, non slippery, and easier to hold.

I'll take the bigger battery too... :)
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
+1 About the camera.

If people want a real camera, then by all means grab a Nokia N8. I had one myself for a short while. Any phone camera will feel inferior after using that.

Most people don't really "need" a camera higher than 5mp anyway...
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
That's kinda unfair of a comparison to make. SGSII is available on a lot more carriers, and was also available unlocked... (Although it would be nice to have the "option" to buy the Atrix unlocked)
[Atrix 4G General] seanandrsn:
Look at the price point!

It is Q4 and AT&T is just looking to sell phones now that they are no longer the exclusive iPhone carrier. This phone is launcing at $99. I would bet by Christmas AT&T will be giving it away with new activations.

Moto should have never called it the Atrix 2 with all the downgrades and why did they switch the ports around to make the Lapdocks incompatible? I have no plans to change from my Atrix 1 at this point.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
You do realise that the SGS2 wasn't even available in the US yet when it broke 10 million units sold right?
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
So I ran a benchmark and here is the stock response.
[Atrix 4G General] LSUtigers03:
Do you think its worth looking at if you already have an Atrix?
[Atrix 4G General] IUH1991:
Why does everyone complain about the Pentile display? :S
[Atrix 4G General] cheetablaze:
I'm using a torch 9800.. I almost pulled the trigger on the infuse and then I realized this dropped today. Would this upgrade be a good one and could stand the 20 month test? I used to have a captivate and sold it, "slow even with xda love". Please be honest with me because it's either this phone or nothing else. I refuse to pay 199 for a phone. Thanks all!
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
WalMart is selling the Atrix 2 for $50 if that will ease your financial concern more.

but in my opinion, wait until the Google announcement in 2 days before making any judgments
[Atrix 4G General] cheetablaze:
I can see the nexus also going for 199, maybe knocking down the SGS II to 149. Both phones are made by samsung, more $$$$ for them. The atrix 2 looks very appealing for the price regardless.

I bet best buy will also have the atrix 2 for 49.99 as well.
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
Overall I am actually a fan of Motoblur, and I know not everyone is. For the aforementioned $99 or in some cases $49 price tag it's not a bad buy at all. The benchmark test is not far off the OG Atrix, but the screen is much nicer.

As always with Android, if you are always wanting the latest and greatest, you can pick up a new phone every month about.
[Atrix 4G General] ifalldownalot:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-2-only-49-99-on-amazon?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

$49.99 for the Atrix 2 on Amazon.
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
One thing Moto got right, it fits in the Car Dock with a case on it.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Yes, hence why I said "unlocked"...
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
what kind of case? pics?
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
Unfortunately no pics...candyshell type case a customer had on his phone.

"It slid right into the dock, no forcing a click or anything. It just worked."

Words straight from customer's mouth to my ears.
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
are you talking about the Atrix 1 or Atrix 2?
[Atrix 4G General] TRDregun:
The Atrix 2
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
For those who are talking about motoblur, have you tried the phone?

I just picked it up and the phone is nice. The Motorola overlay is actually way better compared to what's on the atrix and the photon. I didn't own the og but from what I gather from just playing with it in the store this phone is a lot smoother. Not sure if I will keep it depending on the Google announcement this week.

But on another note didn't google purchase motorola? Or is the deal still pending?
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Yes google purchased Motorola's Cellphone division. Also I owned the OG for a month and I can tell you the UI and such of the Atrix 2 is quite a bit smoother even with a custom Rom and OC Kernel that I had on the OG this one still feels smoother. Also Build quality is quite a bit better.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
No, the purchase hasn't gone through yet. Please don't spread false information. Shareholders are to vote on the aquisition November 17.
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
Ahh I see, misread some of the information there http://investor.google.com/releases/2011/0815.html
[Atrix 4G General] ifalldownalot:
So... How can you say that the Atrix 2 is a lot smoother than the "og" if you never owned the "og"?
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
I said from what I gather with playing with it in the store. That's where I drew my conclusion. 30 mins testing a phone may not be the best way to make a judgement but it's how I came to my conclusion, which is what I stated.

Sorry if you don't agree with my conclusion but according to the various other people and review sites, they all came to the same conclusion. Am I saying the phone is better,no, never owned it but there is a noticeable smoothness increase from just playing with the phone and testing different games out.