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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tjtj4444:
I really doubt this (please note, I'm a proud SGS2 owner and will never buy an iphone 4S). Everything I've seen indicates that SGX543MP2 in A5 is faster than Mali-400. But it seems like 4S uses a downclocked version of the GPU (200 instead of 250MHz) compared to ipad 2 to save battery, so the difference might not be huge.

Please see some tests here, some tests uses off-screen rendering without any 60fps cap.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] m2smoe:
Give apple their dues? Great evolutionary steps? You gotta love it when people who are pretty much technology-dumbstruck say these kinds of things.

The iPhone 4S is a failure. It costs almost TWICE as much as the SGS2, and has all around worse hardware. How does a phone running on 90% old technology (save for the A5 chip, which honestly, isn't that great in this iPhone 4S considering it's nowhere near close to using its full potential) is a great evolutionary step?

:confused::rolleyes:

And Apple concentrating on gaming is really funny to me. It's APPLE for god's sake. Just because iphones have a few (yes, FEW) decent games still doesn't mean it comes even CLOSE to my SGS2's emulation capabilities, on which I'm already playing all my old PS1, N64, SNES, Neo Geo, Sega (etc etc etc) games. Time to get real Apple fanboys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rovex:
The problem with these tests is that they dont utilize real world situations to tell their story. Also they are cross platform, which twists things greatly.

Its know that the Mali does things differently to the Tegra, as a result it seems to lose big time in some of those tests. In reality it can perform just as well, or significantly better if games are coded for it correctly. Same goes for the Mali v. the SGX543MP2.

The Mail has better video rendering, Android has more codec support.

Thing is if I run GLBench i get different results to Anandtech anyway. I stopped taking anything Anand said as true many years ago when they turned into a virtual nVidia and Apple promotional site.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gnan10:
yesss its time to accept the truth.....the iphone4s wins against my sweet sgs2....:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

its just amazing......the iphone5 will be a revolutionary and legendary device ever released.....but for now iphone 4s is the best.....not our devices...very sad of this :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] drelite08:
Lmao!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Electroz:
Umm, I take it you forgot that apple did it first with the 3GS right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Product F(RED):
Actually, it's expandable to 80GB if you get the AT&T or Sprint version because it supports 64GB cards. Also, it does USB Host, so you could plug in a flash drive/external HDD with a dongle and it'll recognize it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ajftl:
Good now samsung pissed and announcing nexus prime quicker wooohooooo
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CallMeVentus:
Typical Apple commercial:

"The new iPhone 4S.

Now at a revolutionary price.

Underclocked for more battery life.

Destroying all competition.

Buy it now at your local phone reseller."

Just my 2¢ .

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gnan10:
no dude am not at all a apple fanboy....am an androidian ....my first mobile is galaxy s2 only.....

but check out the videos of iphone4s...its awesome....

and most of the users saying that ios is superior than android and quality of apps are miles ahead,most of the article viewing like this regarding stability it blows up android....only customization is the thing we hav in android i think.....so am feeling sad coz of owning an android.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CallMeVentus:
Look . It's a piece of underclocked phone that is twice the price of the S2 .

Furthermore there are more free apps in the Android Mart than the App Store (50+% vs 28%) .

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] IamIrene:
overall is sgs 2 better

but off course different people got different opinion
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MrPhilo:
Uhhh I don't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Store_(iOS)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Market

It's a fact that they have more apps and a little more better games.

But later Android should have more by the time of 2012 with all the phones coming out with dual core, quad core and shiz.

(Yes Wikipedia might be a little unreliable but it somewhat close)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Christian_Troy:
But seriously, anyone really expect an iphone FIVE?

Still disappointing they left the screen that small, but I guess that's why it's still #4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AllGamer:
are you suggesting iphone 5 should be 5" screen? :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] euphoria47:
Really? So you read some pro-apple articles about a phone that isnt out yet and now you think android isnt so good any more? Get some experience in using an iphone 4. Play around with one, preferably a jailbroken one for a more fair comparison. That will tell you what you willbe happier with. 4s will be the same as 4, just apps that dont exist yet will be made to take advantage of more horsepower. that is all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CallMeVentus:
I just wish that Infinity Blade could be on the Android instead.....so I don't have to keep using the iPad 2.....

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] euphoria47:
I really should start using my ipad again. since i got the s2, it has been collecting dust. i played infinity blade maybe twice, dont remember what i spent on the game but should try to get my moneys worth.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DPMAce:
all my friends who are iphone fanboys are switching lmao

waiting over a year for an outdated phone lol

doesn't have to be to the sg2 either. So many badass android phones out there.

no wonder apple is suing all its competitors. Just like someone said, iphone is the new blackberry
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] svesam:
Finally eyePhone is here, and guess what it is 4, yes 4 again, with a BIG "S" just like Galaxy "S" ...

Please Samsung .. sue them for the S or the eye or any thing,, just keep them away.

Long live any thing but ÄPPLE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DPMAce:
iphone fanboys are angry bahahahah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AllGamer:
until the real iPhone5 comes out, there is still no competition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nodraxis:
What an absolutely ridiculous remark, of course there is competition.

The iPhone 4 (and 4S will follow suit) is obliterating the likes of the Galaxy S II in sales, and it's not just sales that it's better at it, it's nearly everything aside from e-peen factor among nerds.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Product F(RED):
It's just a name, 4, 5, same thing. Actually, in terms of sequels, this new release is the iPhone 5 because it goes iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S.

Ta-fricking-da. Continue comparing.

iPhone fans before: "The iPhone 5 will surely outdo every POS Android phone with its beastly specs"

*iPhone 4S release*

iPhone fans after: "WELL IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE SPEED YOU KNOW. IT'S STILL BETTER. AND STUFF. YOU KNOW? IT HAS MORE GEEBEES."

---------------------------

Here's what I think of each OS:

iOS: Beautiful, but oversimplified and way too locked down. Non-developers (the average person) has the iPhone not because it's so amazing, but because everyone else has one and because Apple's great at tossing adjectives around in its ads. They also only show off the best-looking apps in those ads. iOS 5 is a ripoff of Android and RIM (iMessages), and Apple just bought Siri from its original developers (btw, the original people who paid for the app can no longer use it), they didn't make it themselves.

BB OS: King of communication and security. That's about it.

WP7: A smartphone OS with potential, for people who just want to get things done without complication. Not dumbed down, just super easy and with a sh*tload fancy transitions. It's great for calls, text, web browsing, maybe some Netflix, and games. It will never (in its current state) be as versatile as Android.

Android: The most versatile of them all. And I'm not just saying that (inb4 fanboy). I've owned an iPhone before, so I'm speaking this from the heart, also after using WP7 (though not owning a WP7 phone). Most of the things that require a jailbreak to use (APIs and such) on iOS are unrestricted out of the box with Android. Yes, some things shouldn't require root access or a paid app that does it without root access (screenshots), but the growth of Android is tremendous compared to any other OS. What Apple took a year and a half to do, we did in 6 months (dual-core, 4G [which they still haven't done], GSM+CDMA chipsets). It's like PC vs Mac; why do you think that PCs dominate the computer market? They're more affordable and they come in different "flavors" so to speak, and they actually do MORE than Macs. The reason people complain about Android, even though it is dominating the smartphone market, is because people think it's too "hard". People picked up Windows, eventually they'll pick up Android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AllGamer:
hmm... okay...

you only joined this forum, only to have this as your very first post?

i think he's right on the spot :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AllGamer:
LMAO!!! and i was still thinking the 4S was just an upgrade to 4, and 5 will come out in like 2 months or something like that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Product F(RED):
Seriously though, the typical (and I'm not saying ALL), closed-minded iPhone user who looks at you like you're a peasant for not owning one will not listen to any well-crafted, technical arguments you make to explain why _______ is better on anything but the iPhone. You could write a whole thesis with scientific evidence and their reaction will still be:

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] euphoria47:
The dude abides. :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 4ktvs:
The S2 is better. I was hoping they would have LTE, but I then got a "hands on" for a few days and I said good bye to it today. Now I will wait for the Prime rib:)

Edit: Jobs is dead:( The end of apple is coming.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Product F(RED):
So Steve Jobs just died. Officially.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AllGamer:
probably caused by the weak 4S performance, and how apple stocks are falling :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ghostfaceg35:
I'll just leave this here...

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DPMAce:
iphone 4s sucks ass because Jobs wasn't there.

ggpo apple.

There would be no such thing as my badass HD2 if it weren't for Jobs though. RIP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgalan14:
Lmao this thing is funny LOL, but one thing tho apple does know how to make ads for their products , Google should do that too, they dont show it like that you know

RIP Steve Jobs, Revolutionary Technology the changed the way we see it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bangdrum:
I'm going to go ahead and say apple just lost there place in the market. May even be there down fall. Fact is the majority of iPhone users don't know what these internal parts do. So why would they upgrade to something they figure is exactly the same as the phone in there hands. FATAL mistake apple. And rip Steve.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] light19940120:
Android forever!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kailkti:
Uhhh look at android users. Most android users want the latest software or such, yet more than half do not even know what the update contains. E.g. 2.3.4-2.3.5-2.3.6-2.3.7, it contains nothing substantial, yet people are shouting for it from the manufacturers.

So the point being is, the general consumer just knows that "latest=best", and with such information in mind i think we can draw the conclusion that they will upgrade regardless of their knowledge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CallMeVentus:
All I know is that 2.3.4 has GTalk and 2.3.7 has GWallet .

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgalan14:
Yup most likely, just like EVO and EVO 3d the upgrade was the 3d , the processor and the screen , well the camera too even tho it went from 8mp to 5mp. Galaxy S 1 and 2 , let's see camera, bigger screen , thinner , super amoled plus. , and processor . Ok now let's look iPhone 3g and 3gs . Camera , software , MMS , video recording , a little bump in processor speed and definetely a lot people back then was talking crap about how apple was gonna go down hill and still sold a lot , iPhone 4s looks the same, and yes android will probably beat them for a while but is not a bad smartphone, I got both an iPhone and EVO 3d and like them almost the same, battery life. Sucks on my EVO tho :(

RIP Steve Jobs, Revolutionary Technology the changed the way we see it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ph00ny:
I don't know about the evo comparison

EVO 4G to EVO 3D was a substantial upgrade

Dual Core, 3D camera (8MP vs 5MP comment is moot, since 5MP camera supposedly takes better pics than the 8MP unit on EVO 4G), more ram, qHD screen.

---------- Post added at 12:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:50 PM ----------

That's based on the Nexus releases not the individual manufacturer
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] XSlor:
Biggest fail

The one thing that I haven't seen yet in comments and what I HATE about apple... is how proprietary the accessories are... GIVE ME A DAMN USB CABLE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!! Only REAL turn off for me with iCrap... oh and screen size ^^...

Prime ftw!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] screamwork:
+2

o expected so much

i don't think they watched the concept on youtube :D it made the iPhone 5 looks like a joke :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blessi360:
Winner is

The Galaxy S2 is the obvious winner, Iphone 4S is a disappointment one of it's "greatest" specs is the voice command. They obviously stole that from the app store from someone who was a Dev and since their app is on the itunes market. Apple have full rights too it, you gotta expect a lawsuit soon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] M!ss:
I have them both. Galaxy's better:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Product F(RED):
They bought the company, they didn't steal it. The people who actually paid for the Siri app from the App Store can no longer use it. I still side with Android overall.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 42320135:
I like Galaxy S2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] donsdaniel:
Need to get Galaxy S2 asap
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] PlanDreaM:
I had a smartphone before Apple, they just made em prettier with less buttons...

The 4S is a failure.Screen is TOO small for an expensive superphone.

5 prolly will be much better and out in June(if you can wait).

u8800,cm7,franco@1.5GHz
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jaza78:
Galaxy S2 is the obvious winner

Iphone 4s is failure
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] z33dev33l:
no, you don't :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bigshow3949:
apple will be fine. plenty of people who just wants a simple phone. something they can work with one hand easily. but im an android user. they are both great phones. depends on the users preference on what they like
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nraudigy2:
iOS has widgets? I didn't know that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] peterpatrickgo:
compared with the 2 models, the SGS II is absolutely more cost effective than iphone4s, and I also think so does the iphone4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgalan14:
There no calling it widgets buy you can see them in notification center , for weather and stocks

RIP Steve Jobs, Revolutionary Technology the changed the way we see it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AntonJart:
A ton of models of Android devices does not make them better. Almost every of them has some issue. My Glacier comes with two screens and two eMMC chips, while 1 is good, the other is complete FAILURE. Back battery door is now swinging side to side... If I pick another phone - Ill find something else

While the number of models is rising, the quality is falling.

To Apple users: Nobody cares how many apps there in the market as long as we can find what we need. Please stop using this argument to say that Apple is better because of this.

In conclusion, Android manufacturers still have a lot to learn from apple. One of the important things is - build quality.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] digitalnerd:
Yeah, I was definitely a little disappointed with the 4S
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Moonystorm:
Camera? Your asking for it?

There are apps that make the "dedicated camera button" available on the SGS II

Yes. The volume button, Just like in iOS 5. everything they come up with seems so Primitive. lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Meilannu:
Would you happen to know what Alps?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kobakis:
iphone suxx
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Azaraith:
Agreed that hardware is Apple's strong suit, but the	OS is pretty primitive and is now ripping off Android. I have experience with all 3 main platforms too... (first smartphone was bb storm, then Droid X. I also have a bb curve and iPod Touch - iPhone minus the phone)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] YoMarK:
First of all, I'm a fan of android and don't have an iPhone and i don't want one. But the android fanboy's in this thread are even worse then the Apple fanboys on Apple's own forum.

Facts are that the iPhone 4s has a MUCH faster CPU/GPU combination then the galaxy s2. Fact is that is has a higher resolution screen. Sure, the SAMOLED+ lookt great, but the 'old ' retina screen is a fine screen.

Then the other thing: bigger isnt always better, 4.0 inch is the ideal screen size for me probably.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ph00ny:
CPU? No

GPU? Yes

Ideal screen size really depends on the user. I thought the 4.3" would be too big but it suits me fine. I wouldn't mind trying out the larger screen of Prime before commenting
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgalan14:
I agree the retina display looks amazing, holding my iPhone 4 next to the galaxy s 2 and even tho GS 2 looks great iPhone 4 screen looks like a great print out, the colors are so nice on it, I just wish it had a 3.7-4 inch screen , btw I'm keeping GS 2(company phone ) maybe or trade it for an EVO 3d for tmobile and getting the iPhone 4s for personal phone

RIP Steve Jobs, Revolutionary Technology the changed the way we see it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MartyLK:
I am inclined to agree, I too was hoping for a larger screen. But I think I will withhold judgement till I see how the 4S actually fares. One thing I know, Apple is not ignorant. They gave outstanding marketing principals and for them to decide to release what, for all intents and purposes, seems to be a rehash of the previous iPhone, there must be something very revolutionary about Siri that they feel confident it alone makes a significant upgrade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AntonJart:
I would be effin shocked if Samsung put 720p resolution on 4" screen. That beast would have blown retina like a wind blows dust. But WTF is with 4.65" screen? I mean, its no longer a phone but a tablet!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] voyager_s:
The stupid thing about all this is the blind sighted people who are just gonna jump on the bandwagon and think 'oh wow new iPhone...its magical'. The people who are just gonna buy anything apple.

Its sad but i think apple knows they are going to make a killing profits wise with this mediocre upgrade from all the clueless loyal customer's who buy anything they put out. They don't feel like they have to blow everyone away...i don't think they can anymore either. Samsung is just too strong hardware wise.

Anyway, we know that the Android handsets that have been out almost a year now way surpass most of the hardware and features of the iPhone 4s. But unfortunately most of the general public out there do not.

I gotta give it up to apple tho...their advertising and promotion are second to none, and have been very consistent. That's one of the main reasons why many are so blinded and loyal by and to them now.

Phew.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MartyLK:
I agree with this also. I feel the SAMOLED+ is an oustanding display, but the Retina display in my iPhone 4 just never stops amazing me. It doesn't have the overblown colors of the SAMOLED+ and it does so well in daylight that I am floored. Not so with my Focus and its SAMOLED. Daylight viewing is just as bad as old LCDs on it.

But I could live with a SAMOLED+ equipped phone easily and be content. I love the black level of my Focus. It makes the WP7 icons seem like poster print...like a full-color E-Ink display.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] youguesswho:
I'm not suprised to be honest...as soon as they announced that the 4S i knew it wasn't going to be something groundshaking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hottubtimemachine:
hate to interject, but what are you talking about... outstanding marketing principles? hate to break it to you, but the only marketing principles they know is making themselves money. they know people would be standing in line for hours for this junk, that's why they released it. it is nothing more than a software upgrade, yet the iphone 4 won't have it? if i were you or anybody else with an ip4 i would be extremely upset right now over this disappointment.

apple is good at tricking people into thinking their phones and products are made by the hand of God. that's what they are good at. they don't support flash, they don't have external memory banks, and they are ridiculously expensive and every time you pick up your iphone/ipad, you are being watched.

i guess i don't understand the fascination with that. am i weird? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MartyLK:
Like I said, I will just have to wait and see how the iPhone 4S fares before I make any judgements. If Siri turns out to be viable on the current iPhone 4, a lot of people will be pressing Apple for it on their current phones. If Siri turns out to require the enhanced specs of the iPhone 4S, people might still press Apple for a modified version of it on current phones.

But Marketing does involve making money. Apple is very good at that. They have released outstanding hardware so far and they would not shoot themselves in the foot by rehashing something when much more is expected. Nevertheless, from what I have read of Siri, it sounds amazing and revolutionary. It brings to the market an actual "KITT"...like the one on Knight Rider.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hottubtimemachine:
yes, i see your point. to be perfectly honest i hope this "siri" application blows every other voice control function out of the water. it will make everybody else step up their game.

it seems odd that simply a voice control function would require a dual core processor... and a huge amount of ram, though.

the iphone 4 will probably get a modified version of it, however. not the full version (assuming they get it).

because either way i feel they will have upset customers.... ip4 users will be irritated that they are bound in a contract for another year before they can play with the new device (and most of them paid top dollar for their phones), and ip4s users would say "umm, so why did we buy this phone if our old ip4 was gonna have it anyways.. i just spent all that money to upgrade my contract early and this is what happens?"

it's a shame that apple does this. it's all about making money.