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[Motorola Droid Bionic] PhilDX:
i have a Bionic with the BSOD issue, it's fast but the i keep missing calls when it's locked up, and sometimes i don't receive texts even when it's on. i am buying the Prime as soon as it's released (assuming it's on verizon).
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
There are two versions. Read up more G.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
All speculation at this point

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] MarcMaiden:
I just got this phone coming from an AT&T SGSII (long story)

anyways so far I'm very happy with the phone. I had an Atrix before as well but this is a whole different beast. Performance is pretty much on par with the SGSII aside from a few things:

pinch to zoom isnt as smooth as SGSII

web browsing isnt as smooth (while rendering the site still) as SGSII

as far as feel goes,

I kind of so miss the thin profile of the SGSII, but I like the chrome accents and look of the bionic better.

SGSII wins on battery only because it isn't LTE,

but honestly, LTE made such a huge difference in terms of browser/app/in app download speeds that it feels like a faster preforming phone.

bottom line,

you will not miss much by getting the Bionic. The only thing missing to make it really "future" proof is NFC, but thats not much of a biggie anyways.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] alodar1:
I couldn't wait. After holding out for 2 weeks, i bit the bullet. Only had it for 3 hours so far. Only issue so far is getting folders inlive email to show. But i have only now started searching.

I came from a lg g2x...just hardwarewise, this is faster. Only trying to decide if i can get used to the moto implementation.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
I did the exact same thing except I came from a DInc.

My only predicament is getting used to moto as well.

On that note, the new blur on this phone is growing on me. Pretty sick how everything glistens when transitioning screens

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Tivo7:
Does it have the cool screen off animation too? Where it looks like an old TV turning off.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
Yup. When you turn it on & off. Pretty sure that's a GB feature. Pretty sweet.

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Juiced_RL:
Personally I prefer the build quality of the Motorola devices. I like how solid they feel and can attest to that as my OG Droid, Droid 2, and Droid X took spills out of my pocket from my truck and no problems. The bootloader concern is valid if you
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
The bootloader is not a big deal to me, the main pro for the unlocked bootloader is the ease of recovering from a brick. I had a Droid X and currently have a Thunderbolt (until FedEx comes with my replacement Bionic) and I think the Droid X was an overall better phone (if rooted). The X had much better build quality and much better speakers and mics (for those of you who use your pocket tablet as a phone) it also ran just as good as the t bolt with liberty and autokiller, I still have to use autokiller on the bolt even though it has more RAM (it doesn't freeze like the X did, but it does get sluggish without autokiller) and BAMF, which are the best roms available on the bolt.

All that said I would wait because in a month and a half time I'm sure 3-4 new phones will be released, a new Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and probably an LG revo 2
[Motorola Droid Bionic] seanmcd72:
keep waiting

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/10/motorola-spyder-to-be-introduced-on-october-18-keeps-its-clothe/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] efingguy:
Completely agree... If you can hold out though, the rumored release for the Prime was pushed back to Oct 27th. Specs are specs, for the remainder of this quarter, all technology 'upgrades' are sidegrades, and you wouldn't notice the difference. I think the only real noticeable difference is the PenTile display which I guess bugs some people.. but it all comes down to your preference.

Personally, I chose the Bionic on release, and having the first shipment I have to say I havent run into any deal breaker problems. Motorola makes a great phone, and a great smartphone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] CrazyGuyCD:
I had the same type of falling out but it was with sprint and I had the HTC Evo 3D which was great. However the Bionic has been very beastly for me.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] irsmurf:
Just get the Bionic. Worst case scenario, you're stuck with an excellent phone.

There will always be another phone right around the corner. Until Kal-El, The only things that matter to me are dual core processor, LTE, and a decent PPI on the display.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] TheBiles:
The Nexus crushes the Bionic in every single category, so there is no reason not to at least wait a week for the announcement. Why get stuck with a horribly inferior phone when you can wait a couple weeks? It's not like you have months to wait.

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Sent from my Droid Bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
Except for reception, Samsung phones are horrible in that regard
[Motorola Droid Bionic] efingguy:
Kind of harsh.... I wouldn't by any means compare the Bionic as a horribly inferior phone...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] TheBiles:
Well, when it boils down to it, the Nexus gives you a phenomenal screen that curbstomps the Bionic's, a faster processor, and stock Android straight from Google. The last point alone is worth getting the Nexus, in my opinion.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] doogald:
The one thing I dislike most about the Bionic is the size - it's too big - and if the Prime is bigger, I don't think it's necessarily better. Anyway, it's easy to say that a theoretical phone that nobody has seen is absolutely fantastic - let's see what it's like in real life before we say that it's dramatically better than the Bionic.

If it truly is an AMOLED display, for example, then I think that the display readability in sunlight should be worse than the Bionic. That may matter to some people.

The Prime is supposedly thinner - does that mean it has a smaller capacity battery? Does that mean worse battery life?

Verizon has had only one stock Android phone (the Droid), and notoriously once agreed to get the Nexus One before reversing and instead started selling the non-stock Incredible. Until I hear about it for sure, I wouldn't be surprised if the Verizon version of the phone is the Droid Prime, rather than the Nexus Prime, with a bunch of junkware.

There are a lot of things that we do not know yet about the Prime.

(I'll grant you that stock Android will be better than any OEM's skin, though; here's hoping that it happens. And I agree that waiting for the announcement, at this point, would be a smart thing to do, unless you really, really want the Bionic.)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] diaftia:
You could be waiting a while to get the Prime on Verizon. Looks to be ATT and T-Mobile in the near future. The Verizon LTE rumors might have been just that.

http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/201...e-hits-the-fcc-with-support-for-att-t-mobile/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] efingguy:
My point is more that if you do choose the bionic, it will last you. I would disagree with anyone that would argue different. But when the prime comes out, you can expect something to curb stomp that, like a bionic 2. Or Droid razr. If you're looking for dual core technology and 4g capabilities, the phones available now are solid, you aren't going to be disappointed. If you can wait, then wait but you'll never have the top of the line phone for more then a couple months if you are solely basing quality on line by line technical specs.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] doogald:
Well, there is also this: http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/201...rimes-lte-capabilities-hidden-in-fcc-filings/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
I webby and purchased my Bionic ( from someone on Craigslist lol) and working fine. Worst comes to worst, I have the Atrix and iPhone at I can sell. 4g is awesome but 3g isn't as strong, but I'm on 4g most of the time anyways.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bill.garrett:
Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that it's Verizon LTE, since AT&T (and now Sprint is officially joining the party) use LTE networks that are not compatible with VZW's network. That said, until the announcement says different, I still believe Verizon will finally acquiesce to the Google demands for Nexus products.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] webpagesby22:
Amazon wireless now has it for $0.01. I recently purchased it for 149.99 and they refunded me the difference
[Motorola Droid Bionic] korruptedone:
I love my Bionic (swapped out my Charge for it at Costco, everything is better except the screen and you get used to it) but I would've waited on the Prime if I had that luxury. I needed grandfathered unlimited data though.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Superguy:
I still think the Prime's coming out for Verizon first. Plenty of phones have made it thru the FCC that have never seen the light of day in the US. Bionic's FCC filings didn't even come out until right before its shipped. Plus, it looks like we only have a week till we find out.

Don't forget that Moto's also expected to announce the Spyder/RAZR on the 18th, which will exceed what the Bionic has, PLUS get rid of that god-awful PenTile Matrix screen (gets a Sammy-like Super AMOLED instead). Aside from the likely locked bootloader, the specs look competitive to what the Prime could be.

Had the Bionic but took it back. I think these Moto, Sammy, and HTC phones coming out over the next few weeks will be worth it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] daB055l4mb:
Personally, I would definitely wait for the Prime. No hate for the Bionic, I love this thing, but the Prime will have all of the stuff that the Bionic has PLUS more. Also, it will have an unlocked bootloader and an HD Super AMOLED screen. The leaked video of the Prime and Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) looks amazing to me, this thing is really future-proof.

^^^ May have got that moniker wrong (HD Super AMOLED), but it will have a Super AMOLED screen with a 720 x 1280 resolution. Thats higher than the iPhones Retina Display, with a slightly larger pixels per inch.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] TheMuffStuff:
Wait, at least for the Razr if you dont like samsung or htc. Bionic is not worth it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
Wow, you guys are really tough on the Bionic. I love mines coming from the thunderbolt and have zero issues with it. I'm one of the ones who cant see the pentile screen issue. In fact I think the screen is beautiful. The phone is fast and powerful and MOTO blur is unintrusive. I'm also confident it will be one of the first non nexus phones to get ICS. I've had issues with every Samsung product I've purchased and will not be purchasing another one anytime soon, nexus or prime, no thank you. Former Captivate owners feel my pain.

I highly recommend this phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
Bionic hardware is fine. It's the MOT software that blows. How a company with a history in U.S. Army combat communications devices can so badly screw up the radio software on a phone is beyond me.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ResistanceDown:
So I myself am making the switch to big red and have been looking at the bionic and reading this post to try and decide if I should just wait for the nexus. Just picked up the bionic from amazon wireless for a penny :) I am looking forward to joining the community. Hello!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] CC Lemon:
Even with all of these upcoming phones, the $0.01 deal is really hard to pass up. I'm currently in a contract with AT&T and I was considering breaking contract to move to a different phone and carrier during the holidays. I might not end up with the absolute latest and greatest phone, but this deal would basically cut my costs in half and makes breaking contract seem a bit more reasonable since I essentially bypass the cost of the phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] irsmurf:
I paid $650.00 and still love it. Getting it for one cent is an outstanding deal. Enjoy.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] droidrev71:
Should of waited.. I think what's coming is going to be worth the wait. IMO I didn't wait either. Bionic is nice. Couple bugs that I do not like. All in all I should of waited..oh well.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
Unfortunately I wasn't at waiting liberty. Plus I owe ATT their $85 etf bull****.

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Rezanow:
Picked up a Bionic for 0.01$ Will be here on Monday.

Does 4G just mean I burn through my data plan quicker?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] MarcMaiden:
Yes and no...

No in the sense that things you do normally doesnt take in more or less data than if you were on 3g,

However,

Verizon's 4g is just so quick and makes this phone so fast that you will probably end up doing more data related (than if you were on a 3g device) tasks which adds up quickly.

the phone comes with a data counter widget from verizon that syncs with your billing cycle. It's pretty useful
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
I laugh at you people who returned your bionic before the firmware update to wait for the Vigor/rezbound or prime.

You don't think issues are going to plague that 1st gen phone as well?

Watch That new 720p display have mad refresh rate issues, not to mention that display in combination with LTE radio is gonna wipe out your battery life.

You will all be in the same return line you were in with your bionic.

Bwuahahaha!

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Rezanow:
Excellent, thank you! I have been using 3GWatchdog on my Triumph just to gauge how much data I have been using through 3G because I know even Virgin Mobile will eventually do away with unlimited data. It's helped alot in that I tend to think about how much data I am using, and look for WiFi points before uploading pics/vids or downloading/streaming music and apps.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
I think your comments would have more impact if you did an ebil-type MUWAHAHAHA! laugh at the end. :rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
Brilliant!

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] CC Lemon:
I couldn't resist that deal either... Having to pay the early termination fee is definitely worth getting off AT&T and moving to verizon with this phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Rezanow:
Thankfully, I am coming from a pre-paid. No ETF, but I dropped a fair chunk on the Triumph a few months ago. Really disappointed in that phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjael:
A couple of things.

The Nexus Prime isn't exactly 'first-gen.' The Super AMOLED HD is using the exact same technology as the SGS2 screen, just with a different sub-pixel layout to achieve the 720p resolution. It's not a lot bigger than 4.3" so it's not going to use significantly more power either. It's (allegedly, albeit) using a 1.5GHz OMAP4 - an overclocked version of the Bionic's processor. It's a top-notch phone, but it's doing it on proven technology. :)

The only first-gen thing about it is Ice Cream Sandwich. :D

I do agree about throwing your Bionic away to wait for it though. It's not that much better, and even then that's only if the rumors are true.

And at 1 cent for a Bionic, you're far better off buying one of those instead of waiting for a Nexus Prime/Droid HD whichever way you slice it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
Not to mention there's no such thing as a perfect phone. When those devices come out they'll have threads just like this one.

"I'm disappointed....."

"Who's returning this phone for..."

I've had a total of 8 Android phones and tablets. What they all have in common is threads like this. Something new, better and shinier is always just around the corner. I was going to keep my thunderbolt until my contact was up but that phone had too many issues. If all goes well the Bionic will last for the duration of my contract. The gimmies have to stop sooner or later.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] SirReal63:
One thing that makes me not want to wait...VZ has a history of locking phones and loading them with bloat. I have no reason to believe they will not do that on any new phone now. I would be more surprised if they released the Prime/Droid HD and it was open.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
^^This +100
[Motorola Droid Bionic] CC Lemon:
I agree, but only to a point...

At this point (if Amazon didn't have the $0.01 deal), there would be no reason to not wait a week just to see what is being released and how soon. The bionic will still be available in a few days but we might have more information on a device being released very soon that will be better. There will always be a newer device just around the corner, but when there will be information released in the coming week, I think it would be worth the wait. The $0.01 deal is the only reason I jumped to buy the bionic so soon. If the Amazon deal didn't end before the scheduled announcement, I probably would have waited to at least know what's coming out.

That said, the 1 cent deal is definitely going to be a better value. If anyone is on the fence, I would jump on the deal unless you have to have the latest and greatest. The newer phones are going to have better specs, but I'm not sure I could justify the additional $200 for the small improvements.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] equake:
All these the upcoming V* fones have 1 commonality other than the Rezound/Vigor and its the OMAP 4 SoC and LTE. The experience should be fairly similar and ICS should come to all these phones if rumors of Google choosing OMAP as the base platform for development.

Don't forget Google has just recently boubht Motorola so there there is some synergies there.

My 2 cents.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] CC Lemon:
Thanks for bringing up ICS... I knew there was something I had been meaning to ask. I know I've seen rumors that ICS will come to the bionic, but is there any strong evidence or a good reason to believe that will happen? That might be the one thing I'd be actually envious about with the new set of phones if the bionic doesn't get it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] yungwunn911:
used a bionic onvza for a few days (coming from sprint).

I have to say, call quality, signal, and LTE REALLY shine on this phone flawlessly.

The only things that annoyed me were its size (which i got used to quicker than i expected, but still bulky) and laggy/choppy browser (which could prob be fixed with a rom or update)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] filthy1:
greener grass

the grass is always going to be greener on the other side....smartphones are the new computers so to speak...you buy one this week and next week it will be outdated by something thinner, faster, more powerful... and sometimes cheaper. I have owned just about every android phone, and the people that wait may "win" in the short term but the people that buy the bionic and use it for however long will get the phone that replaces whatever you waited for....and so on and so forth it is a never ending cycle...every phone has its problems just get one you like and use it till your ready for the next thing you like.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
Try other browsers, I've always hated the stock browser. I personally like dolphin hd the best because of a few of the add ons, mainly desktop toggle. Also try opera mobile and mini.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] necroscopev:
Welcome!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
$375 was painful and the fact I won't be able to upgrade until 4/2013 is worse, but I'm used to dropping mad cash for a phone.

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Superguy:
Except for the screen. That thing was awful. It's YMMV thing though.

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+1 on Dolphin. Best mobile browser I've used to date.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ups2525:
VZW rep told me no Prime only Dr Dre HTC...

I spoke with a friend at VZW store and he told me VERIZON WILL NOT GET THE PRIME. He did say they have been told we will get a Dr. Dre HTC with a 4.7" screen and a 1.5ghz processor...He has a Bionic and is happy with it but says he will do whatever it takes to be one of the first to have this new HTC. He doesnt know the release date but he said it shouldnt be long.

I have a rooted Bionic running D3BLURR3D Beta 4 ROM and this thing is blazing fast and the devs are just getting started! I average 14 hours on a reg battery with average use. I also have a Charge and I have done a side by side comparison with the Bionic and yes the Charge has better screen quality but its not enough to make me want to use my Charge over my Bionic...my display brightness is always set to auto so I never use the Bionic screen at 100% anyway. I love the 'sturdy' feel of the Bionic and the radio is IMO far superior to the radio in my Samsung Charge. I have tested all three 4g phones placed side by side and the Bionic gets more 4g time than both the Charge and my dad's Thunder Bolt.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
Old news. Verizon is getting the Galaxy Nexus and the HTC phone is called the Rezound.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
Verizon reps don't know sh*t. My buddy is a manager at a brick and mortar. They call me to ask about releases :)

They are clueless.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] CC Lemon:
Almost exactly what I was going to say, except it applies to pretty much every company and every type of product. Verizon, AT&T, T-mobile, Sprint... Their store employees pretty much never know any more information than what has been leaked on tech sites and forums like this. You see stuff like this with cars too. Dealership salesmen will tell you all sorts of hilarious rumors of upcoming cars and specs that are amazingly inaccurate and often aren't even remotely believable.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Jstylen:
I picked up the Bionic a couple days ago and have been very happy with it. And when I found out you can get a full version of Linux working for your webtop I could not resist rooting. Go for it!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] smokedkill:
I think calling them clueless is an understatement. The less they talk to you, the better.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
Press release on the Razr confirms no NFC and no ICS = no envy for Bionic owners.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
My only reason for envy would be radio software that actually works. :cool:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
In due time we'll have our firmware upgrade. And who knows what bugs the razr is hiding up it's sleeves....
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zetsumeikuro:
I like how the bionic feels in my hands. I like a beefy phone 8). 200mhz more theres like no lag on the bionic already. SuperAmoled what use with a pentile subpixel display? Same processor same ram hmmmm.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] greenstuffs:
look no further than galaxy nexus :D D Razr is yesterday now
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zetsumeikuro:
That's not really an accurate statement. I feel that the RAZR is a better built phone, hell diamond cut steel, kevlar, corning GG. Only thing that I really dislike is the built in battery, major major deal killer for me. I've never really liked any Samsung phones tbh, always have had hardware issues with them. Main thing that gives me a slight boner for the phone is the super amoled HD screen and the 720p resolution. But if the HSPA + version is 8.9 MM, you can only imagine how ftw the LTE version will be.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zombieflanders:
Considering the Nexus has no external storage capability, and is running slightly slower than the S2 (and therefore only slightly faster than the Bionic) thanks to a gimped video chipset, I'm not really betting on either.

In a month or two, Motorola Mobility will be owned by Google anyway, and presumably we'll get a late Q1/early Q2 release for a "RAZR Prime" or something like that, running with either minimal Blur or maybe even AOSP.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zetsumeikuro:
RAZR prime trololol inb4 it's like the whole Sensation/ Sensation XE fiasco.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] voxigenboy:
Well guys im having a bit of an episode here... Still waiting for my Bionic to come in the mail from Verizon.... But i just keep thinking about the RAZR and feel like as soon as the Bionic comes im just going to return it to a local Verizon store & wait 2 weeks(continueing with my Thundrrbolt for now)...... Damn this temptation!... Argh!...