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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] z33dev33l:
It doesn't do the game justice on a touch screen and being amongst the worst FF games there are it already doesn't have much going for it. I'm aware that it's framerate is just fine but a game that wasn't built for a touchscreen simply won't play as well as one that does. On that note, I had a playstation emulator back on winmo, it's not like it's anything revolutionary. The point of not allowing such things is developer incentive. A developer knows that if they do choose to make a quality game on WP7 or ios it will gain recognition. That's why iOS has infinity blade and numerous other quality games that android won't see a port of. Who's going to pay what? 8.99 for infinity blade when they can get ff9 free?

If they'd used the original cliqs keyboard on a phone that could emulate that well they'd have something. But try playing the playstation emulator on a cliq, it's pretty funny. Ahhh fragmentation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tom-Helge:
Wrong. Please come back and say who have the best quality after you have missed your iPhone 4S on the asphalt 2-3 times.

Who cares?

The most important is who have the 1000 best apps.

But gaming on a lol 3.5 inch screen is as much lol as saying watching 1080p Blu-Ray movies on an 17 inch screen is cool and fun.

You clearly haven't tried Samsung Galaxy S II here.

Changing wallpapers?

Wow, amazing, that's alot of customization for the masses :rolleyes:

This statement is not exactly true.

I was in a phone store today and came over a woman that had some few things she needed help with. And she said last time she charged the battery on the phone was on Saturday, also 3 days ago. And it had 30% battery left.

Sorry, but your reply stinks Apple fanboy for many miles.

EDIT: And just to give a hint on how freaking expensive the iPhone 4S 64 GB version is here in Norway. You can actually buy the 32 GB version of the Samsung Galaxy S II and on top of that buy 4 x 32 GB microSDHC (Class 10) cards that will give you a total storage of the WHOLE 160 GB. And that costs the same as the 64 GB version of the iPhone 4S costs here.

Buying an iPhone 4S is a robbery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] z33dev33l:
funny, I take care of devices I i spend several hundred dollars on.

which would, sadly, be iOS as well.

and gaming on a 4.3 inch screen is infinitely better? Especially with a lower pixel density.

and you expect how much more of the AVERAGE user?

Must have been an immensely casual user. Perhaps check texts every 3 hours or so.

Funny as I absolutely hate apple. I have the 4s just as a tech geek but have used it for 4 hours total in favor of my 1 year old dell venue pro.

well, you pay for quality.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
I'd rather buy a 64 GB sdxc card and combine it with the the memory you beat the 4s for the same price.

As far as your complaint about emulators goes the games play awesome on a touch screen even if they were not built for it. Your just trying to play it down. Ff7 is held by many as the best ff. No one asked for your take on it.

When the emu was out on winnow it was slow and bogged down by slow hardware. On android it flies.

I buy tons of games as well as emulators on my phone.

Point is infinity blade can't compete with awesome rpgs like xenogears as a matter of fact most new rpgs pale in comparison to older ones

Many touch screen game controls would be better if they had the same setup as these emulators cause like the wii some of these games just are over the top on the motions
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Tom-Helge:
1. Me to, but i managed to miss my Samsung Galaxy S II into the asphalt today that was the 2nd time that had happened since i got my Galaxy S II. And my phone is still looking good.

It only have some scratches. I can provide pictures of that as proof if needed.

I doubt an iPhone 4S would survive the same fall accident as my Galaxy S II did today.

2. Any proofs to back up what you're saying here?

3. Yup, because the resolution is so high to begin with, so gaming on the Samsung Galaxy S II's screen looks WAY better.

4. The average users today can do way more than what you think an average user can do.

5. No, she had been calling, sending sms'es, surfing the web, checking facebook many times every day and taken some pictures.

6. Ofc the iPhone 4S would be better than an Dell Venue Pro.

7. If you miss your iPhone 4S down on the asphalt and it goes up in 1000 pieces. Do you still claim it's a high quality product?

Because the chance that you will miss a phone (specially made out of slippery glass) down on the floor / asphalt is very high.

So it would be a risky game for me to buy something that i know 100% that i will miss down on the floor or asphalt that will crack so easily.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xaccers:
Have you forgotten already?

It won't be played on a touch screen, it'll be played using BT controllers on a large flat screen TV.

Not something that is possible with WP7.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
True though I would I exit prefer to play it on the touch screen
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] z33dev33l:
I throw money away on some outright stupid stuff and I wouldn't do that. A playstation would cost me 26 dollars. A ps3 could be obtained for less than the price of the aforementioned 4 BT controllers.

As for the other guy, your whole argument is around "missing" which I guess means dropping your phone. I haven't dropped any of 80 plus smartphones I've owned since the Samsung blackjack that held up well but then again, I take care of my devices. I don't know how you've dropped your phone twice in the couple months you'd had it. My dell venue pro is almost a year old now and is still looking as though it's fresh out of the box because I take care of it. If you drive a lambo off of a cliff it's going to take a lot more damage than doing the same with a jeep, this does not make the jeep the higher quality product, there are numerous other factors.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
Having a ps1 inside your phone to play anywhere u go is useless right?

Many people already have such game controllers like the wii etc.

Point being it is a feature that wp7 does not offer nor ios in fact they actively block it. This gives the users more out of their device then complainning about lack of Widgets or whose maps are prettier.

Try carrying a ps1 or even PSP and 50 to 60 ps1 games in your pocket anywhere u go ready to play anywhere with the option of hooking up to the TV if u want.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] z33dev33l:
Or, hardcore gamer as I am, I could just play mobile games and save games that require 40 plus hours of gameplay for something a bit more relaxing. I am more than happy with my mobile games and I'm an avid gamer. Then again, I have full Xbox live integration and some all-original games. My final fantasy fetish can be reserved for my ps3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Spartoi:
Why are you all talking about WP7 in a iP4s Vs SGS2 thread?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] z33dev33l:
don't even remember how that started.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vis80k:
Gotta admit iphone's got more quality games... most games i d/l for android has crappy graphics and gameplay... I think this is more due to android market not having ppl like at apple rejecting crappy apps^_^
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] topbasework:
this thread for comparison i think
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xaccers:
At a guess, you entered the thread? :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Sj1355:
But for me it is Great even if they did not upgrade the screen :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
Kinda been my point that u can say that on IOS until u compare the android emulators along side those games. Super Mario 64 sure is a great game to play on my android compared to the mobile games companies churn out these days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ani55:
Very well said, I agree ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bholloway:
I ordered an iPhone 4s because my contract was up with AT&T, but I'm thinking of selling it. I'm using an iPhone 4 right now and I really see very little reason to upgrade except for Siri.

I actually did read an interesting article on morningstar about why the apple stock will increase in the long run, even though people aren't initially impressed with the iPhone. Basically it just said that historically apple has come under criticism for releasing products that the public wasn't initially interested in. For instance when the first ipad came out, I remember there being a lot of talk about how expensive the iPad was and how no one would ever buy one because a laptop made more sense. Look at how the iPad is doing now.

While I'm fairly indifferent on the cell phones I use, I do agree that apple tends to bring out products that revolutionize what the consumer needs instead of what they necessarily want to have. Only time will tell if that's the case with siri, but from what I've seen so far it's pretty impressive. I'm looking forward to seeing how far it advances.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rockborn:
Galaxy 2 is Better

I phone is expensive toy that should be given too little children. galaxy s2 is better:D in everyway:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hungry81:
His point is rediculous in that even if apple had not released the iPhone smartphones would still exist. Whether or not the phones would be better or worse without apple Is pure opinion and speculation. Yeah I'm happy with my hd2 as it is today. That does not mean I would be unhappy with my device in whatever hypothetical universe apple hadn't scammed people into believing its crap. All the features in apple devices were being used in others before apple came along.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MartyLK:
That's an illogical argument. Only one device is what Apple brought all those features together into. And the mobile capacitive display was not being used prior to the iPhone. Not only that, but myself and everyone around me and all I knew were glad to finally have a decent phone. The crap we had been enduring until the iPhone was horrible. I don't know how it was in other parts of the world, but here in America, the rich and powerful feed us full of pure ****e and squeeze us dry of every drop of money for it. Thanks to Apple and Steve Jobs, we no longer have to suffer that. Because of Apple, the rest of the industry had to get off their lazy butts and actually put out decent products. HTC included.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bouralis:
sII better than iphone 4s for me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AnasNazeer:
my father was thinking of getting the sgs 2 but it was costly , but he said he would buy it over the iphone4 (4s still not here and prob. would cost an arm and leg)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xaccers:
Prada phone was capacitive before the iphone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DPMAce:
my point exactly. I remember before the iphone, almost every smart phone required you to buy their proprietary headphones just to listen to music.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
I agree the iPhone is a great phone. I just don't like apple trying to erradicate the platform I prefer. I am sure the fanboy arguments would die if that were the case.

In other news I upgraded my Evo 3d to a S2 today :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] spirikitik:
S2 is great but in 3 months there will be a new model coming and your S2 will be old school, on iPhone you are guranteed 1yr of no new model release so bang for the buck?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
I don't care about the money I want the specs. Did I mention I upgraded from an evo 3d to a s2 ...the evo 3d already has more specs then the iPhone.

IPhone can't do a lot of things I do with my phone so it would be a waste of my time.

Also the rate carriers restrict the influx of new phones the S2 should hold me over for a year. It was announced in FEB and did not get released here until freaking September .....

And spec wise the iPhone 4s released old school
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Gusar321:
One, it was. But you conveniently keep forgetting that this little thing called LG Prada existed.

Two, there's nothing magical about capacitive. The Nokia N770/N800/N810 have a finger-touch interface despite their screens being resistive. Not to mention the Neonode N1m, with it's "swipe-to-unlock" gesture.

---------- Post added at 07:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:34 PM ----------

Aaaand, here we go again... So what if a new model will be out? S2 won't suddenly become a worse phone because of it. It'll still be just as good a phone as it is today. This is some really weird mentality that's going on around here lately. I would actually see "one year of no new model" as a minus, not a plus.

Though I'm starting to get it... You people don't see the phone as a tool that makes a few things in life a bit easier. You see it as something to use as posturing. Or, if I'm direct, as penis enlargement.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mrf582:
UI acceleration is the only thing Apple does better. For now...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] daniel4653:
Great points!

I chose the s2 over the iphone because with the iphone you have to wait an eternity for anything new to come out and there is no comparison when it comes to customizing your phone. Android for the win!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Skv012a:
But who said you'd WANT the new model? All in all, everything they added in S2, at least personally, is the peak of what I'd want in a portable fun thingy. Say like 1.6ghz or some new 2.0ghz dual core cpu? Who cares? You already carry a DUAL-friggin-CORE device that's thinner than your wallet.

I say, take the Apple approach to better products, sit back, and enjoy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Trev186:
If a phone came out clocked at 2 ghz per core and a new emulator came out that needed more power to run I would buy it.

Either that or more internal memory or double the ram.

Although since Sdxc works on android ill just wait on memory until my 64 GB sdxc card is replaced by a 128 GB one
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dxtra:
iPhone fanboys go away. ModMyI is still open for discussion. LoL . That's like me arguing with a youngen that thinks and swear up and down that Kias cars are better then lets say Nissan, acura or anything of a higher class. The iPhone is a good phone just not for me, boring, same freaking minor hardware update ones a year, that tiny screen drives me insane when I look at it could care less if it has a thousand pixel too freaking small. You iPhone fanboys just don't understand the words FREEDOM, CHOICES, COMPETITION. Siri what a flap. The majority of iPhone user I know use it to crack jokes. I want a smart CPU not a freaking comedian. BTW tell me one thing I couldn't do with my GSII that iPhone does? NONE. I respect people's opinion and decision. But come on with these lame excuses on why iPhone its the sh!t. WRONG!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jjesusfreak01:
I pulled my new S2 out yesterday at work and I was asked how I liked my new iPhone...not sure how to respond to that. They then proceeded to complain about the iOS5 update killing all of their contacts and causing various other problems.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
The S II is the best thing AT&T has got right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] evostevo1:
I agree. This device + ics is straight murder to the 4s.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] RockRatt:
+1 with ICS it will be murder. With Gingerbread it STILL beats it. Have a couple guys at work with icrap4 and icrap4s and they wanted a challenge so I brought it. Opened up some apps, YouTube videos, Netflix, and mine was playing them before theirs where close to loading. They both are on att so it was a fair fight. They wanted to test this after I showed them these videos from YouTube. I EVEN WANTED TO SEE IF THEY WOULD DROP THEIR ICRAPS as in one of the videos but they were too scared.

So crapple fanboys check out these videos and see real world testing and see which one performs better AT STOCK. Now imagine what the right rom would do let alone ICS. SO yes in 6 months our phones MAY BE OLD SCHOOL but that still 6 months from now would make your iCrap STILL WORSE...

IPhone 4s vs. Samsung Galaxy GS2

Videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/apple/face-off-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-vs-apple-'-4s/#comment-111646

Sent From My KICKASS CM7 AT&T SGS2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgalan14:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...to-wait-until-q2-2012-for-ice-cream-sandwich/

Just saw this on techno buffalo I will get the galaxy nexus instead of the gs2 I don't think is worth the wait if is true

Sent from my iPhone 4S :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] joshuadjohnson22:
i came from iphone 4 and love my new phone. Ive had every iphone but now that im settled in to android.. id have it no other way... enjoy the little screen :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] toyfreak:
Leaving SGSII for iPhone 4S

I am taking my SGSII (AT&T) back and getting iPhone 4S... Why, you ask? So I can do like I have with every other iPhone I have bought on contract with AT&T (I have a family plan with 5 lines on it, BTW...): Sell it for a handsome profit and buy what I really want.

Now should I get the Galaxy Tab 7.7, Galaxy Note, or Galaxy Nexus?

Decisions, decisions...

And I still have 3 lines out of contract to play with and profit from :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
At lunch today with a friend who has a 4s, my phone was faster in the os in all aspects, then he says "do you have Siri?" I about threw my Burrito bowl at him, such a childish response. Then I asked him to email a photo using Siri, that shut him up real quick.

Whatever, to each their own, love my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sxl1:
yo
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Meilannu:
3.5 inch screen rules!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dungeon47:
That's if you want to wait for the official update. Look how fast the Captivate got Gingerbread ROMs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgalan14:
Truth but sometimes I preffer official updates cause of the kernel , not saying the official builds have bugs but still developers have more stuff to work with :)

I can't believe Aaron from phone dog have iPhone 4s a win tho a lot android users in the comments lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rolex81:
granted I was running CM7 nightly build #6 at the time I ran this and I know iphone people will say. 4s was on Stock everything and your galaxy was not. The way i see it Stock for iphone 4s is as fast as its going to get. Stock for our phone is not even close to what our gsg2 is capable of.

Pic on the left taken from http://theandroidview.com/?p=904

Pic on the right my test.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CamoGeko:
4 inch should be standard. :D

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] revox1:
I have the 4S but i like the Nexus. Buttttt i am a bit dissapointed about the gpu from the Nexus. :)

The powerVR sgx540 it's a little slow.. compared to the powerVR sgx543 (dual gpu) from the 4S.

S2 vs 4S : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/489?vs=448

Nexus vs 4S : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/503?vs=448

S2 vs Nexus : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/503?vs=489
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jean2012:
i agree with you, i should join in the forum early, i have bought one iphone 4s already, now i don't feel good, i want to change to Galasy s2:mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
If you're still within 30 days you can do a return. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CamoGeko:
Wow, that was a bad idea lol

Logged using an SGS2 type droid while floating in CheckROM quadrant...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] skatin707:
Expandability is awesome. I love having a 64gb card in my phone. That's 80gb of "space", which is a lot for a cellphone.

(I know that, once formatted, it's lower)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] JustinW3:
My battery life is amazing since I rooted and got rid of 2.3.6 and KK6. (Back to 2.3.4 and KH7 thanks to Entropy for that one. So no I'm not using a custom ROM or kernel.

My last charge lasted 28 hours with 14% batt. life left, 3 hours of screen on and most of that was playing games.

Apple was using the S a year before Samsung if I'm not mistaken, 3GS came out exactly a year before Galaxy S.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] joshh20:
I used to be a very heavy fan of Apple, I have spent over 5,000 worth of tons of different things from them. But I was always curious about Android and wanted to know what it was like, so when the Galaxy S II came out in the U.S. I snagged one up, and at first, I didn't really like it. After some time of using it though, I realized what I had been missing out on for all of this time and now I can't see myself ever turning back to iOS, I just like the customization of Android far too much to ever go back. I hope this helps anyone looking to buy a phone, and aren't sure which platform to go with. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sumaher1:
I777 all way

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] almaqdad:
[I have waited for 2 years and new iphone 4S looks exactly same like my old iphone4 ]

**** Apple
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hero000:
Just read about new iPhone 4s last night in gsmarena. More than 400 comments were given.I freaked out from where the hell iPhone got so many fans. When read the comments realized they bashing all those brain washed apple fans. :)

Sorry ios fans reality sucks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rovex:
We've had 2 claims in this thread that the iP4S will do better in 'graphically intensive' applications. Lets pet that one to bed right now.. It will not. Mali400 is faster than anything Apple have in the A5. Its locked to 60fps so benchmarks don't do it justice. Its an easy match for the A5 when you consider the full package, not just one or two tests in one or two random benchmarks.

Little fact for you.. the 1080P recording the iP4S has isnt high profile like it is in the SGS2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jlevy73:
The only reason certain apps or games perform better on the iPhone than Android is because they were coded specifically for the iOS platform.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] drelite08:
It still has a VGA front camera lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] alangrig:
Well the following features still hold me from buying iPhone:

1. Safari still locked: can't upload files, sad, missing flash

2. Small screen

3. True native file manager like on Lion OSX

4. Mail.app limited files support,thus attachements can't be downloaded

5. VGA fron camera, sad

6. iOS 5 still missing true multitask and RAM management: just open bunch of apps and those still fill up the RAM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lockieio:
OH i hate apple crap more than anything..

All my frieds,apple,iphone,ipad...but when they see my galaxy they was like wooooooow:eek:. so *uck apple!

Yesterday i watch news,and offcourse,they have to put litttle article about "upgraded" iphone .it makes me LOL...i if apple relase new headphones they will also put that on the news..hahah...:mad:realy i dont know why is apple crap so popular in this world?

*uck apple go android!!!!

EDIT: dual core for the old same screen size...hahaa...no comment...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] euphoria47:
Weeeellll not really. My perception of this whole history repeats itself thing is more like MS Winmo platform was the new Nokia, RIM is the new MS WinMo, and Apple will almost certainly become the new RIM. This i like to call the Chain of Fail.

Motorola claims *first* though.