yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] ptesmoke:
Lol was sense ever needed??

Ics sense makes my stomach turn, I want pure ics!
[G2 and Desire Z General] xandermpls:
Does anyone even run any stock rom? Lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
CM is close enough. I just want speed. Sense is such a ram whore
[G2 and Desire Z General] kaizeng3:
Hope That ICS will be ported soon :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] antinerd:
A poor Sense experience is a convenient excuse to not provide ICS to the Desire Z, but what about the G2? The G2 never officially had Sense, so this cop-out should not apply. And there would be nothing stopping a Desire Z user from flashing an ICS update for the G2, without Sense.
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
Source hasn't been release yet soooo wait for that... THEN wait for it to be ported lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] erichung_13:
All the people saying that we won't get ics.. check the android dev threads. alpha release..
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
Just to clarify for everyone... We will get ICS through CM9, once the source is released that is almost a guarantee.

The chances of HTC releasing an official version are somewhere between "A cold day in hell" and "when pigs fly". Don't count on it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Well, I think there are different topics here. The question of whether HTC/T-Mobile will release an official ICS update for the DZ/G2 is one question. Personally I doubt it. But it's an entirely different question to ask whether anyone at all will produce an ICS ROM for our phones - CyanogenMod, for one, is virtually certain to do so (though they need to wait for source to be released).

Also, don't confuse any ports of the ICS SDK to the Vision with a proper ICS ROM compiled from source. An SDK-based ROM might be a nice thing to show off to your friends, but I doubt you will be using it every day on your phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] costipl:
So you basically got a copy-paste of the general HTC statement issued just after ICS launch.

No suprise here, I wouldn't expect some rep to just give away such info. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] David Dee:
I have to agree to disagree with you on this one my friend. I am a big fan of sense based roms, really like the aesthetics of the UI. But I get the purist stock mentality. This is sort of like the Porsche vs. Bentley
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
well first off, people are questioning whether we'll get it officially from HTC (which I think we wont).

The 'Alpha' release you speak of is an SDK port. SDK port ROMs aren't stable or usable... We won't see a real ROM till source drops.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ptesmoke:
Lol porsche obviously being aosp :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] David Dee:
Exactly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] silverwind:
I bought HTC because of Sense UI actually, otherwise I would buy Samsung :p
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
HTC have posted another statement about ICS on HTC phones over on their Facebook pages. It's still pretty vague :
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
The one thing I'm worried about? Wifi calling. I needs it. Hopefully Cyanogen and Co won't have any problems...
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
If it works on 2.3, I'm sure they'll have no problem getting it to work on 4.0...
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
2 and something months later after making this thread, the only thing really missing is camera for now, so good job to the devs :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] foefur:
It's going the right way now...

The dev's are almost there and we will have ICS to on the DZ/G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] muffinwaffle:
htc is so full of themselves.

It's not like I'll suddenly void my 2 year contract to get your latest phones. Least of all, getting the same sense gingerbread experience no less. :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
This thread might interest you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1425324
[G2 and Desire Z General] muffinwaffle:
Ya, I've already sent my feelings to htc. Hope it tickles them at least.
[G2 and Desire Z General] agazza:
Any good guesses on when the CM9 will be out?
[G2 and Desire Z General] muffinwaffle:
Probably during Feb.

Most likely not for us though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] agazza:
how long is the usual waitingtime for the other releases?
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
Our chipset is actually one of the first that is going to be in the first wave of 9.x releases.
[G2 and Desire Z General] c00ller:
Yup!

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/progress-on-cm9
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Not exactly the first wave though, the first wave is already out. More like the third wave. We are mainly waiting for some sort of official ICS ROM for our chipset on another phone, so the graphics drivers can be taken from there.

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
Good thing Sony's releasing ICS for their Adreno 205 phones
[G2 and Desire Z General] noneabove:
?!?!?! Where did you hear this?? Not doubting you just genuinely curious haha! So that means for us better HW Accel (?) and possibly working camera?? I ask about camera cause there was a thread saying it seems we need the adreno drivers in order to get the camera working.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dawn0fDeath:
Well the Camera is already working on Virtuous Quattro ICS ROM :) But you can't capture video yet.. But still it would be great to have Adreno 205 drivers as well :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] naruvam:
Andromadus v11 also has working camera..
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Ooh really ? That would be fantastic news for us !

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
They announced it in November.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_showcases_android_401_ics_alpha_rom_on_video-news-3523.php
[G2 and Desire Z General] noneabove:
Whoops, meant to quote dawnofdeath XD whatever :P

Well, its working, but it still has major artifact issues unless in VGA quality :P also vid and panorama ofc but yeah haha
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
ICS official update will sooner make its way to the MyTouch 4G Slide, before it comes to the G2, if it ever does...

I'm really wondering why HTC won't promote that phone more and give it an official update. It's the only natural successor to the G2. Still stays in the HTC family, has a QWERTY keyboard, has a trackpad, has better internals, etc.

Someone at HTC doesn't see what potential they have to make a killing right now. Even if they offer an early upgrade, I'm sure many G2 owners would flock to the newer phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
HTC just released some more ICS info. The Desire HD (Adreno 205) will get it. And they say the list still isnt't final, so if at least the G2 can get it I'll be pleased

https://m.facebook.com/home.php?refid=8&_rdr#!/note.php?note_id=10150762287733084&__user=858805018
[G2 and Desire Z General] noneabove:
Wow! Even if G2 never gets it officially, any Desire getting it is GREAT news :D so happy about that! We'll at least have an official PORT ! :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
It'll be sense though =/
[G2 and Desire Z General] trundlenut:
Looking at that facebook page there doesn't seem to be much love for HTC.
[G2 and Desire Z General] noneabove:
Yes but I think we can extract the ICS from that, or at the very least the GPU drivers I guess
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
Yeah, the Desire HD getting it is (some what) great news for us. We will have the drivers for GPU acceleration so something is something....

Camera isn't the same, sadly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wizard25:
Are we going to get at least Android 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0?
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
Doubt it. We don't have enough ram for sense 3.0
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Exactly! We both have the Adreno 205 so that will help our missing driver issues! Yea!

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One weird thing though... the Doubleshot is mysteriously absent! wtf?!
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
The DHD is so similar to the DZ/G2 hardware-wise, it's fantastic they're getting official ICS. I suspect it will help us with the camera as well as GPU, even though their camera has a higher spec (their chip to run the camera is probably the same).

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sorgo:
That's a very good news, cannot wait for a DHD port!
[G2 and Desire Z General] coredalae:
Doesnt the desire S have the same camera though?

so we could pull the GPU from the DHD and the camera from the S..
[G2 and Desire Z General] terminal addict:
The specs from the Desire S definitely seem closer to the G2 specs than the those of the Desire HD. The S also uses the Adreno 205.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3518&idPhone2=3776

Holding out hope... :)

Update: As far as I can tell, the G2 and Desire S both use the S5K4E1GX camera sensor.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
The S series of phones and the DHD will be our biggest hopes of getting workable drivers. Always a chance something can be gleamed from the HTC Ville, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

The wait sucks, but we SHOULD have a fully functional ICS ROM once ICS leaks for those phones.
[G2 and Desire Z General] knightslay2:
Perhaps we should e-mail HTC?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jessv3:
I really am surprised the Desire HD is getting the official ICS update and the Desire Z is not considering they were both announced in Sept 2010 and the DZ took even longer to be released, I know in Australia the DZ has only been available through local telco's for less then a year (vodaphone only) where as the HD hasn't been available for sometime now. Also isnt the Desire HD just reused hardware from the HD2? you think the newer device would have priority, unless its a ram thing as the HD has sightly more ram but i highly doubt that ICS needs more then the 512MB.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tarroyo:
I was surprised as well I emailed both HTC and HTC Dev about this and all they told me was that they've only released 1 list of devices that will get ICS support, More are coming and to check there twitter and facebook pages for updates.
[G2 and Desire Z General] selfinflicted1:
Any day now...

Can't wait...
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
The Desire HD has the second generation snapdragon while the HD2 has the first generation
[G2 and Desire Z General] Zombie Steve Jobs:
Can't wait !

Rooted w/ S-OFF

Current ROM : G2Slim 1.6

Radio : 26.13.04.19_M.
[G2 and Desire Z General] GrievousMcG:
I'm being a bit daft here but what are you waiting for exactly? The HTC official ICS for Desire S or DHD? Another list by HTC of devices being upgrade to ICS?

If you are waiting for ICS for the Desire S or HD, I think you'll be waiting for a few more months yet.
[G2 and Desire Z General] pepar0:
Seriously doubt we'll have an official ICS from HTC.

I'm waiting for CM9.
[G2 and Desire Z General] selfinflicted1:
What he said ^^^
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
Question for you guys. Sony just released a few beta ICS roms for their Xperia phones, and I believe that several of them use our Snapdragon and Adreno chipset. Anything that could possibly be gleamed from them?
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
You never know. The problem is... we won't have it until the end of this year or so. By then, most of us will have a G3 and CM9 will be stable lol!

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only if someone was able to heavily modify it. It couldn't hurt though. You might ask one of the ICS developers via a pm. Most are pretty nice guys.
[G2 and Desire Z General] olyloh6696:
No, not really. The DHD has the second generation CPU/GPU which makes a huge improvement.
[G2 and Desire Z General] olyloh6696:
I think they didn't bring the update because:

- 512mb RAM is not enough to cope with Sense + ICS.

- 800Mhz not fast enough. And all the people saying 'we can overclock it', that's not what HTC will do though.

I've seen demonstrations on Sense 3.x on the Desire Z, but it is quite slow and laggy compared to its other Desire HD/S brothers.

Also they would also need to bring the update to the G2 with stock ICS, which I cannot imagin..
[G2 and Desire Z General] agazza:
xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1492461

(Tapatalk, phone)
[G2 and Desire Z General] GrievousMcG:
Ah right, thanks.

Let's hope that CM9 will give us a fully functional camera too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tarroyo:
.

The Cyanogenmod team doesn't develop hardware or drivers, they work on whats already available. Until we get a working camera source from HTC or a fully functioning port we won't see CM9 on our devices any time soon. . . .
[G2 and Desire Z General] derekthejw:
Cm9 !
[G2 and Desire Z General] ernestnwanu:
What about it?

Sent from my Desire Z running MIUI.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
ICS is coming for the Desire S and DHD, as well as also starting to leak out for some Sony phones using the same chipset (I think) as our phone. So I *hope* it won't be that long !

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rmcsc:
It's not "leaking out", it's an official beta soak test.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KyraOfFire:
So so true :-) I appreciate CM team's effort but I also feel that their update is not going as fast as the rate that contracts expire.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kmindi:
I am using the ICS Version that is beeing developed here: [ROM][ICS][2-19-12] CyanogenMod 9 Pre-Alpha Build 2.5 [Unofficial] .

Its pretty much working and smooth.

Camera is working but produces sometimes corrupted images. Video capturing does not work. As well video playpack of HD / 720p movies does not work for me.

Besides that its pretty stable from my point of view. I use it currently on an every day basis.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Even better then !

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zoot1:
There are many ICS roms for DZ out there which are relatively stable. One problem we now face are real camera drivers and that is why will have to wait for DHD ICS update.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Cyanogen himself has stated very clearly that they will not release CM9 until they have the necessary graphics drivers from stock ROMs (due to the large changes in ICS, esp hardware acceleration).

The "CM9" ROM in the dev forum is no such thing, it's based on some CM9 source along with other bits from other ROMs, just like several others. Which is good. But it's not CM9, it's just based partly on CM9.

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] agazza:
Hope its okay to post this, its a petition for ICS on the desire Z, meaby you already seen it, and i guess it won´t help, but nearly a thousand people, meaby that will help for a release of the camera things we need

http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z#
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
ROMs are getting better and better :) Big thanks to those devs
[G2 and Desire Z General] ndouchin:
fm radio too...

Fm radio is necessary for me as well as a working camera. I just tried this rom "

[ROM][18/03/12]Ice Cream SENSEwich Beta 3|Sense 4.0A One V|4.0.3|ONLINE"

the fm radio seems worked as the rds displays right radio names.

But there is no sound.

However the work in progress since several weeks for ics is very impressive from all the custom rom teams.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mesaj:
HTC respone to question from

http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-...-htc-desire-z# (2nd tab)

PS. Over 2000 signatures in petition :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Could you fix the link please ? You seem to have copied and pasted a truncated link (with dots in it).

Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Doc76013:
ICS

I signed the petition and had at that time over 2,000 signatures, Lets hope that it gets noticed and released. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] louloudi:
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z

;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] lzx2980173:
singed it ！！！
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mattyas:
I can't believe that I'm already running a very stable Ice Cream Sandwich on my dear Desire Z - thanks to the devs for all the hard work!

What radios are you guys using with ICS? I changed my default radio to fix the in-call echo problems (people heard their own voice delayed when they called me) I had with all the ICS ROMs I tried, and it worked like a charm! Unfortunately this also produced some battery drainage as it's side effect.

I understand that the ROM itself causes some of this drain, but the radio clearly makes a noticeable difference. I already flashed another new radio and I'm going to continue the tests until I find out, what's the best one for my location.

I'm just wondering, if some other HTC Vision user has gone through this radio changing hassle already and could pass some tips on this. I live in Finland, so replies from other european users are the most helpful ones.
[Wildfire General] cybernalin:
i need to install ADB driver for my PC and i have a wildfire phone so i did try with windows XP SP and Windows 7 64bit both can't detect my ADB driver files....

(I set the path of drivers) how do i fix this

and i have a another question i unlocked my phone using a unlock code so my current version is 2.1 if upgrade or root my phone is that possible to get it lock back again :confused::confused:

Help me :confused:
[Wildfire General] showlyshah:
All you need is complete and calm reading of stickie " complete wildfire index",

But sure i can give you a fast anz. The simplest way is to get android sdk, or htc sync from corresponding sites. They will help you with drivers. Or google for android adb drivers, you will get it. There are different drivers for an android phone, such as fastboot drivers( the one installed when you enter fastboot on your phone) and normal adb driver( when you connect phone in debugging mode) so determine and explain your need, so that we can help more accurately.

Also you can root with out any problem, actually you can even put custom rom too.
[Wildfire General] cybernalin:
thanks for your reply showlyshah i figure it out and thanks again you save me :D
[HTC Wildfire S] wildfire-s:
How can I install HTC clock widget on cm7
[HTC Wildfire S] benjamingwynn:
You can't - HTC Widgets only work with rosie.
[HTC Wildfire S] :
Here you go!

Say thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jstyle360:
Hello Team

Im currently running NDT Ginger v16, everything seems to works fine but lately i've been dropping signal and freezing up. Which Graphical NAND Rom that is stable and working would you guys recommend?

Thank you in advance
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisrj28:
Depends on what you want, for Sense there are many stable versions available. Coredroid is an awesome one.

Typhoon is a great CM7 rom if you want a more stock look. I can suggest something more specific if you tell me what you want in a rom
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jstyle360:
Definitely not a stock rom but something a bit more robust with themes and great look.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jstyle360:
also stable, all working and fast
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samday:
You could check out boyppc's rom's. I tried both his GB and desire (sense) roms & they are great. He also has a miui & a sense 3 roms, but I haven't tried them.

Wet themes, I put this one on boyppc's GB & it looks great :

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=987723
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ty5982:
the latest energy rom
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] XRCIST:
Flavours of MIUI

This one is nice if your into MIUI:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=987723

Cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shankar10:
Since you familiar with Langthang releases then I would recommend MIUI ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1010498

Ever since I start using it I never looked back on CM7 ROMS, not that they are great but I need a nice GUI system over all. Just a side note - CM7 is much faster than MIUI lol

Anyway it's really what you looking for ---- pretty ROM vs Fast etc

I'm sure you will like this

Good luck
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mr Hitch:
boyppc ist super
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] langthang:
This version is quite old, should update to newer version

Newest version is V20.0 now
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jstyle360:
Upgrading to newer rom version?

Is there anyway that i can upgrade to a new rom without having to download and re-install all my apps/games etc?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jstyle360:
Got it, all i did was rename original android folder and installed the new rom through AD recovery. All is there and functioning
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samday:
Not sure if you've already seen these, but here are some step by step tutorials (posted on the Typhoon rom thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=933951) on how to do clean installs and installs where you keep your data. Sounds like you pretty much worked it out already, tho!

http://www.multiupload.com/YJJ4J8BXU8 - update ROM and CWM + restore data

http://www.multiupload.com/AJN2KWMEL5 - update ROM + restore data

http://www.multiupload.com/R2PYG1Z00U - clean installation.

I've found these very helpful.

Other way to keep old data/apps is to use Titanium back up, tho this can be tedious if you have a lot of apps.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WizardBGR:
AmeriCan Android is what I use for almost a year and never had complains.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jstyle360:
Thank you

Thank you all for your input and assistance on my questions.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bvjunior:
Try this website for the latest roms and latest updates

android.hd2roms.com
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
If you don't want to risk bricking your phone:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280747806307

P.S Comes with alot of accessories

You are purchasing via ebay + paypal to ensure a scam free deal.
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
do not hessitate to ask any questions

sry i meant to press edit but i pressed quote =s
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Nice marketing. :D

BTW, I hope you have this posted at the Marketplace forum as well.
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
I know =]

I tried looking for a marketing forum couldnt find one.
[Wildfire General] calyxim:
Wildfire S is 150 quid at phones4u...

I would reduce the price to £100 to be fair.
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
See post after this. Forgot to quote to get posters attention =\
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
The thing is that I am going to buy my upgraded phone at the end of this month when my adsense money cashes in. So until then im hoping that somebody whos scared to root their phone will buy or offer me £120ish so that my patience will pay off. Whats the point of getting £100 now when Im going to have to wait till the end of the month anyway. I might aswell take my chances and lower my prices later on.
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
Tips on selling this faster without reducing price (i aim to sell at £120ish)
[Wildfire General] trippinz:
Seriously nobody can offer any tips ???
[Motorola Droid X2] nanodan:
Pete's One-Click Root Method works on the OTA. Just make sure you enable USB Debugging.

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New Kernel (2.4.4): 2.6.32.9-00005-g2440aba hudsoncm@il93lnxdroid52 #2

Old Kernel (2.3.3): 2.6.32.9-00003-gb6084d9mqr374@nj05lnxdroid05 #2

Build Number: 4.5.1a-dtn-150-30

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The update (downloading and installing) took about 15 minutes for me. The new version is indeed 2.3.4.

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Motorola has released their newest soak test today, at 12:12 EST. (atleast for me)

People living further west can expect the update to come later, Matt (@Motorola Forums) said.

Rooted phones cannot update. you must SBF to 2.3.3 stock to install the update.

I'll update this thread as more information is found.

If you get the update please remember to post at the project's forums over at Motorola.