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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SouthStockton:
Thinking of going back to Metro but I'm not sure if the corporate store here in Stockton will flash it even tho it says on the website. There is also no direct number to the store here, all calls get routed to a call center of some sort.. Would love know how you got through to a corporate store up there.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidManIc:
@atl: Yup shady for sure man all we can do is keep looking! good luck finding some1 in your are.

I tried calling the metro store the other day too and got routed to the automated system too. I asked in a bunch of places and they kept refering me to the Arden x Howe (the store that flashes for $10). Today I went in and tried to get and EVO and an Eris flashed but they couldnt do either one!!! The eris is running CM7 so I suspect thats why I think she said they cant enter the commads but I put the EVO back to stock rooted anyone know what the problem might be? Im considering flashing nonrooted should I? Any advice?

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I really didnt get to talk to them over the phone bro I had to go in cuz I got that automated answering system too but I live close by soI went in to comfirm before I actually took the phones in. I wouldn't really know how to get through the automated system but I believe it should direct you automatically to the store you called.

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Yeah it's corporate man Arden x Howe they just tell you the whole "no text or mms" deal before they flash.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killa57:
Guys have to say i am officially on boost mobile now with 3g and i am loving the speeds. and to all the people in dallas i suggest yall do the same you wont regret it and if you with them for 18 month your bill will be at 35 bucks cant beat that :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atljatl:
Did u flash an evo over?

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killa57:
yes i did too flash it i had trouble but got it done
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yungtexas:
Sad to say but I'm heading to simple mobile....ill check back later but this seems to be a problem that will never get solved...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
What phone you gonna use on simple mobile? I thought about trying to find a evo 3d gsm version so I could use simple mobile. The DROID plan fell though I figured since this phone only used two bands I would get lucky and 3g work. Im closer but haven't got it to stick.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yungtexas:
I'm selling my evo 3d to get a GSM phone like the amaze...ill pay the difference. I guess you could use the evo 3d GSM. The apn is easy as hell to use to put in
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
I'm in heavon again. Alll I can say is look at my sig . Man I missed this phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macklin345:
Hey can you flash any phone to Boost Mobile? I have a Fascinate i want to use on Boost and a Evo 4G. Any guides or how to's?

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also can you flash verizon phones to boost mobile?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nightzun:
I wouldnt say any phone but yes you can "flash" the Evo 4G over to boost using the Fascinate. Beware(saving you the trouble of finding this out the hard way or too late) that whatever phone you use for your donor, has to be 3G capable, else you will only get 1x on the Evo. So if you have both, your set to begin the process. There are multiple threads on this forum and other forums that will explain how its done. If none suffice you, pm me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macklin345:
also can i flash a verizon phone to boost
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mexigga:
Might this be why I only get 1x on metro?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
They don't repair the esn when they houdini. But if your phones esn was repaired that could be. I just bought a new 3vo and I'm thinking about using an old metro phone I have instead of having this one houdini and see if I get 3g. I'm just having trouble locating the meids
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mexigga:
Interesting....but my esn was not repaired.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macklin345:
Ay JD do you have a houdini flashed evo? or if not how did you flash it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
Jds was houdini flashed.

Really though guys I don't think it matters someone I know in Calif has two houdini on his account that both get 3g and he reapiared his sons phone with an old metro flip phone(not a 3g phone) and all of them get 3g . I'm pretty sure for those of us that can't get it that it is just because metro 3g isn't real 3g everywhere yet. And they only put it in place to relieve network congestion. So pretty much they have it set up so when 1x isn't availible u get 3g. Don't get me wrong fellas I'm not giving up on this battle. I just came to the realization a while ago that it was gonna be a while before metro 3g was good eneough for everyone to have it.

Lol just realized its been 5months that we have been trying to solve this.

JD I was just checking out your website and some of the pics of settings contradict each other. The apn you have on there has a VZW mnc. Also on the dfs the pic of your nam tab doesn't show all the sids. It's nothing big i just figured it would be best to let you know just so you could set it up so everyones apns match what bloodies scripts will flash to your phone which is 310 027 (unless he has changed that since I sold me og EVO)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JD2589:
Hey everyone,

Yes my phone was houdini flashed =D

JD
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killa57:
You know guys I need yall to check NV items 465, 466, 1192, and 1194 why you ask? Well when I flashed to boost I needed the AAA and HA passwords I only had it on the profile in DFS I would only connect to 1x but it acted at first like it wanted to connect to 3g but it dropped to 1x I did research and some one told me to flash NV items 465, 466, 1192, and 1194 from my donor phone which carries my hex AAA and HA and profile (example xxxxxxxx@metropcs.com) but in Hex. So I want yall to look into those items JD to see if you do have those nv items with your AAA and HA passwords and profile in those items in Hex and I want yall to compair with some one that dosen't have 3g. It's just a thought a new idea.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
It's a possibility but the main reason your has to match the donor is cause our msl/spc codes and passwords even meids work together off of an lgorythm. So once u changed your meid to that of the donor it was generating a different msl than what it used to be off your old meid. Therefore not authenticating. But some shady metro stores repair esns so its still a good idea to look into. I've been trying to find all the meid locations for the EVO 3d so I can use my old broken freeform to see if I can get 3g that way. If anyone knows where the meids on EVO 3d are let me know. It's supposes to only be item 0 and 1943 but I looked and there not. Unless of course I'm missing something.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killa57:
I guess ill be around in the threads cause my wife wants an EVO on metro so that's what I'm a giver in a couple of days and try it out.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
You gonna repair it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killa57:
I'm going to get it metroflashed
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nightzun:
You guys have to realize that the only way boost authenticates for evdo is through AAA and HA pwds in HEX! You can obtain such items via DFS, and/or QXDM very easily from your donor phone.

How do you obtain your meid and esn locations? You can scan their locations using CDMA Workshop. I believe the paid new version will easily scan for both. If you dont have paid version, you can also scan but you need to specify ranges. Its VERY time consuming if you dont know the specific ranges. I learned that by trial and error unfortunately. Search the forums, Im sure there are people that have done it so you dont have to scan anything although it might require you to downgrade to another radio version.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
Yea too many items for me to wanna scan lol. I justbfound a EVO 4g on cl for 50 that has a broken charge port in gonna buy it and fix it then do a repair on that since og EVO is so easy since there's a script for it. If i get 3g on that then we will know the answer.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nightzun:
Sure qmat works....That is if you dont mind using an older radio version or know how to script or know something I didnt when I zeroed out my meid/esn lol?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macklin345:
ay

I wounder if its due to some phones having bad esns? JD does your phone have a good esn on sprint or a bad esn? It may be picking up 3g with help from a sprint tower or something, i know some settings stay sprint, and maybe if the esn is good on sprint it helps connect to better towers.

I also know that sprint, and boost use a different type of CDMA protocol than Metropcs and cricket. Its like a Esn verification type of CDMA
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JD2589:
My phone has a good esn, But I don't think it has to do with it..

JD
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
I've had both good and bad esn. 2 og evos one good esn one bad neither got 3g. And I'm on my third EVO 3d 2bad esns one good. No 3g. And one MOTO Droid x2 good esn no 3g. :( so i gotta Agree with JD that esn has nothing to do with it.

Macklin what market are you in?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mexigga:
Agreed. But must be something we are overlooking...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macklin345:
ay

Im in the DFW Dallas market. Reason i say ESNs because i know a esn is very important to 3G and to connecting to towers.

Im getting a Evo 4G, i will test out the settings and report back once it has arrived.

Ay everyone with a Evo, reset you phones data, format it completely til you have to call metropcs to reprogram, then flash a rom, then do all the settings in OP and see if that works. IDk im desperate cus going to boost is tempting but its so much work and i dont want to be changing ESNs and stuff
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
When I get my phones done the guy that adds the esn doesn't touch the phone. He just takes my phones esn/meid and puts it on another phone then houdini that phone. In answer to the next question no that doesn't matter what the other phone was. Once a phone is.houdini that's all it is in metros system there's not anything that differentiates one houdini from another. Back to the guy not touching my phone though. I did factory data reset. Then set all my data on qpst/dcs. Then I edited the ROM I'm using with all the metro settings we need build prop, apns, franeworkres.apk, etc. Then I never even boot the phone before I have it added. My.logic behind this was if it never has been booted with sprint settings and only metro then maybe metro towers would just think this was another metro phone.

Here is part of a pm I had with someone figured I'd paste it here to share instead of retyping it kinda fits with what were talking about right now.

. I think its mainly that the devices we are using have radios that are much better quality than what metro phones have. And since the evdo is just a fallback for when 1x and the LTE networks are congested. That we get too good of service to connect to it. For example I can be with my buddy who has an optimus and were right next to each other or I can have one in each hand and his phone will have maybe one bar but have 3g but speedtests are worst than my 1x but better ping . And I will have a full signal but of course its 1x. Another thing I've noticed is that all the people like myself that don't get it are in the first markets that metro ever put in place Detroit, and Dallas. So its probably much older towers and something different on how they connect. I think I'm gonna post this on Jds thread actually I never shared these thoughts LOL.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nymica:
Part of the speed difference from what I've seen in other posts is that metro phones are set up to use mobile IP. If you use cdma workshop or qpst and set the setting to simple ip only on a metro phone, I've been told the speed greatly increases when on 3g. I have yet to test this myself so I can't say that this is 100% true but it makes sense to me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
That probably is true I haven't tested or used a metro branded phone in a long time. We can't even use mobile ip on our flashed phones(if we want data) LOL. I'm pretty sure metrobranded phones are throttled internally as well as the throttle that they have on thier towers. I got a wildfire ROM on my pc somewhere ill go.thru it. At this point I have tried so many mnc mcc, apns, shared secret passwords, mn ha spi, dmu pkoid, ect ect ect ect ect. I don't even know what it is that gives our flashed phones data anymore. I can disable profiles use random stuff as usernames and passwords and still get data most of the time.

Btw i got the whole system folder and framework res apk from HTC wildfire for metro. Build prop too. If anyone wants to play with some of.the apks and see if they can make anything out of it. I've had no luck yet. I'm gonna upload in a little bit ill post a link if anyone wants it. Thanks to blayznaz for finding the ROM a while ago and oakieville for deodexing it for us to make it more user friendly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nymica:
Yea I grabbed the rom posted over at android forums and have played with it a bit on my Incredible 2 but haven't really gotten far with it. But then again I haven't played wth the build.prop at all either I've tried about everything that's been posted in this thread and can't get 3g here in Dallas for the life of me... it'd be interesting to take a trip to FL and see if my phone would hop on the 3g there...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
My guess would be yes but who knows. But you defiantly need to have your build prop matching your apns that your using. For example if your insing the apns with mcc=310 mnc=027 then in the buildprop you need it to be ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=310027 and ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=MetroPCS

ro.product.brand=metropcs. When I use root explorer/text editor I always delete build prop.bak

For anyone that wants to play with wildfire system/data and framework res.apk here you go http://www.mediafire.com/?t93fiw7uwokeb0f

The rom was deodex so there shouldn't be any issues using the apks for those that tried using the stuff fastwannabe posted a while back.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mexigga:
Sadly...I never looked at my build.prop.

When I did, it is all Sprint....

JD, when you flashed SOS, did you alter your build or leave it as is?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JD2589:
Hey mexigga,

I've never altered my build prop for MetroPCS proposes, I left it as is =D

JD
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nymica:
I went in and modified the build prop but have not noticed any change in anything :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
You flash bloodies scripts don't you JD? If so that edits it for you. :)

Jd, Im curious what your build prop has if you dont touch it.If bloodies script doesnt change it. That would mean you have 310120 for sprint. Then your apns if you use the ones from the OP or your site are 310 004 which is verizon and sprint. Cause if it is like that i wanna try to change mine to another carrier maybe thats why you get 3g it thinks your roaming all the time.....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JD2589:
From what I can see in the MMS script file from Bloody it does not change any settings in the buildprop. On a fresh install of a rom I have 3G already, I use bloodies script to enable MMS, and I use APN Manager to input the APN settings you see in the OP.

JD
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
That's crazy. Metro must have different roaming partners down there and the other areas that get 3g. How long has Florida had metro?

I always have data on a fresh flash too. Build just helps with mms. Bloodies old scripts did edit build when I had og.

I am confident that 3g here will be good enough to connect to. They're popping up cell towers all over the place by me but the towers are bare still. *fingers crossed
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JD2589:
I'm unsure as to exactly how long ago MetroPCS has been around in Florida but I have had MetroPCS service for over 4 years going onto 5. I'm glad you haven't lost faith in getting 3G, hopefully you'll wake up to full 3G signal one day. =D

JD
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
I hope so too. The reason I think that too. Is the mysterious day that I actually got 3g. I'm thinking they were testing it and maybe it put something ota to allow me to connect but since I had to go and be greedy and try to get a better 3g signal I.wiped whatever was giving me 3g away. :(

That could be part of it metro has been here at least ten years I got a metro phone in 03 and it was once they were expanding by me.

I just had to go back and look at page 102 to remember that it is possible for me to have 3g I just gotta figure out how to get it back.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bill48105:
Had road trip to Detroit down I75 this weekend & can confirm 3G in Detroit. To be more specific going South on I75 from Flint area going towards Detroit, 3G popped up around Sashabaw Rd (Independence Twp) lasted past Baldwin Rd & Great Lakes Crossing (Auburn Hills) and stopped around M59 (Pontiac) then started again around 9 Mile (Hazel Park) around & kept all the way into downtown Detroit. Was very interesting there was no 3G for Pontiac, Troy or Madison Heights (seriously they aren't exactly small towns) but was nice to have consistent 3G once I got past 9 Mile & all around City of Detroit.

Speed tests were pretty sad though getting 75-100kbit with it usually sticking around 90kbit like it was being throttled artificially. What is even more sad is it felt like rocket speeds compared to the 20-30k I get on 1x. LOL During one test it shot up to 225kbit for a few seconds before getting choked off so maybe they let you burst @ a faster speed before tightening the noose.

Btw this is all done with MetroPCS Samsung Admire unlocked with stock rom but bloatware removed.

And a bit off-topic but I wonder if MetroPCS changed their roaming deals or something as the coverage maps now show less 'extended home' than a few weeks ago & we're seeing less bars in more places too. Hoping this is not a trend.. :(

Anyway wanted to post up an update in case anyone in the area was looking for 3G for testing etc.

Bill
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
Damn Bill you got me excited when you said 3g in Detroit. Especially when you said how far outside the city you were. Till I got to the part of what device your using. Metro branded phones seem to be throttled at the same speeds as 1xrtt. I get better speed results on my EVO 3d than my buddies optimus gets on 3g his ping scores are better though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atljatl:
I'm really not raining on your parade. That's not my intent at all. But when I got to the part where you mentioned your kbps, I was surprised to see they were not higher. I'm in Atlanta, and the 3g here rarely drops below 400kbps in most places in the metro-Atlanta area (I test constantly.) In downtown atl, 900kbps is average. I know nothing about the # of towers here, when they were constructed, etc, etc,... All that to say, it is my sincere hope that mpcs continues to grow and I believe there is more that we can all look forward to. Selah.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
Have you tested speeds on a metro branded phone atl? I doubt there that high.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atljatl:
No. I haven't tried it. Why is it that mpcs branded phones wouldnt receive signal as well as non mpcs? Is this sort of at the core of what you are trying to figure out?

Jesus Christ is a real person. If you would like to know more about Him, feel free to ask me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atljatl:
Sorry. On tapa. Didn't see the post above where u mentioned the metro throttle issue.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bill48105:
lol wow i stepped away for a few minutes & BAM look at the replies. Yeah I just switched to MetroPCS mid Jan so not like I have a whole lot of experience with the service or the phones. Found this thread when I was looking into why I didn't get 3G on my phone & even though I don't have an EVO I fig'd it would be useful to people to know where I find 3G in case they want to test their phones out. ;) But yeah at this point I can't say for sure if my sad 3G speeds are due to restrictions put in place by Metro (very likely based on what I've read here) or the towers are busy. Like I said in my other post it was quite fishy how consistent the speed was so I am thinking artificial throttling. I just need to figure out how to fix/adjust it in my phone or get a different phone. Then again since it is a good 30 miles for to nearest metro 3G tower perhaps I should quit dreamin lol It would be nice to speed up my 1x if possible though cuz man 20-30kbit blows & can't believe it is really that slow.

Btw I can confirm my Admire shows fake/crap signal strength. It is as if they did it on purpose but not sure why they would do it. They should fake it high like ATT does. lol But I show no bars & have -101 dBm reading & phone works fine. 1 bar is -96 2 bars is -86. I tried out open signal app & it always shows at least 1 more bar than the phone does up top.

Anyhoo yeah it was cool having 3G even if the speed sucked cuz it was like a lil adventure finding where 3G worked. lol

Bill
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
Bill if you root your phone and get the app root explorer. You can fish around in all the folders in the system file. There should be one in there named throttle. There is ways to mod that file. I'm working right now ill try to send you a tut on how to change it. There is also things you can do to the build prop to modify flow control . Easy way to do that would be v6 supercharger it edits build prop for you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mexigga:
mteezey...please send me a copy of your tut...thx.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] D3ja-Vu18:
It's sad, people that actually have got 3G following this thread never came back to help the ones that never got it... Lol I see we're the only ones here trying to figure it out... Still having hope but I guess I will take a break and re-try getting 3G when a new PRL rolls out, I hope soon :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atljatl:
Too much of a noob here to be of much assistance, but anything I can do to help. Btw, (mteezy) I just got another pc so I will be able to go into dfs, cdma ws, etc, and check settings if anyone wants to walk me through.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
It's pretty easy do you have the programs already? If so don't worry about cdma workshop your not gonna be able to find 3.8. Let me know when you got em. Once you do its really pretty simple plug your phone in dial ##3424#

Add the port your phone is on and read the settings.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
I can't seem to find it. I'll write something up for you. Hopefully today.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mteezey:
+1

At this point I really don't think were doing anything different its just the service. Pm me though something I don't wanna post here yet. Might be a jinx. You too mex

Nm I pm'd both of you.