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[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
No... you don't get it.

I'm not jealous, I simply don't say that our problem is stupid... just because I don't have it. If you have unlimited data plan, this is not your problem... so... don't fill the forum with garbage about nothing!

The problem, from the beggining is that, with Oxygen or CM7, to send MMS you have to activade Mobile Data. If you read the posts instead of just boring other users with your "literature" you would understood that from the start.

With original ROM we don't have to activate Mobile Data for MMS. With MIUI we don't have to activate Mobile Data for MMS.

With Oxygen or CM7, to send MMS we have to activate Mobile Data and send MMS trough that APN.

It does not make sense, just that.

If you stop looking only to your bellybutton you will see that the world is not only you... maybe that will be a shock... but it's life !
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
I am sure that you didn't follow "conversation". Because it is not "only me" but so much people complains about it ... and you are playing a smart guy. Go and sniff your smelly socks :))
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
RESUMING:

If by default we can use MMS service without having a permanent data service enabled, why should we now have to enable data being then obliged to a permanent service just to be able to use a very punctual service?

Is you just make 1 km/day why buy a Ferrari? Will not be a waste of money?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
Not if you have plenty of it :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
rich people dont get rich by being stupid...

unless those that won the lottary. those ones got rich and if they were dumb they will keep being it
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
Once again mesnati you can show us all who thinks it's the "smart guy".

If I can send an MMS without spending Data Plan... why shouldn't I care ?!?!?

Your next great sugestion is to call the receiver to explain him/her what's on the message you just sent ?

duhhhhhhhh
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
as far as i remember you were very rich, from very rich country and now few euros is the amount that will makes problems? :D MMS USES data, it sends data so no matter what you do -it uses data. Of course it's stupid to pay MMS price + data usage price. But maybe MMS data usage does not counts as internet traffic and no additional taxes apply, just standard MMS price.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
Tommixoft,

What I can't understand is why you don't just believe the obvious...

Stock Rom DOES NOT need to activate data to send MMS since it uses MMS APN.

MIUI Rom DOES NOT need to activate data to send MMS since it uses MMS APN.

Even more easy, if you install APNDroid you will find out that has an option to KEEP MMS ENABLE.

I wounder why ?!?!? You want me to tell you from your own words:

"But maybe MMS data usage does not counts as internet traffic and no additional taxes apply, just standard MMS price."

This is true, simply because MMS traffic runs via MMS APN... So it does not count Data Plan !!!

Is that so dificult to understand ???

No one cares if you are from a rich or poor country, no one cares if you send 1 MMS by year, no one cares... That's not the question in this case !!!

I don't understand why people like to coment other problems with a lot of teorethical bullsh*t that does not help no one...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
I understanding everything very well i just love to give druida69 the same crap that he/she did. Anyway, i almost can bet you can do this very quick if somebody wants to fix. cause i don't use mms i have no motivation to dig into this. The easiest you can do is just spam the ROm makers about this :D and they will have motivation to compete each other to provide cure for disease.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] stockwell:
So you can do this using APNdroid?

If so, then quit complaining, and somebody please close this thread. You don't have the right to demand features, only to request them.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
First of all when i opened this thread my intention was not to demand anything ...

just wanted to confirm with other users that they have same behavior like i have.

Second thing is that this "feature" really pisses me off but that's not the reason i demand for something (not my intention). Unfortunately here are some users instead to helping evolving and supporting this forum and DEV's roles they acting so smart that i don't know why they are stoping by here.

Appreciate so much your work!

Thanks!

over and out :) Closing it :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
btw: how can i close this thread? :) I didn't find the option :(
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
:) It has to be done by forum admin or moderator...

Please confirm that if I install APNDroid mms's will work without data on?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
Apndroid is payable app. I didnt try it :(

If anyone have try it please reply.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
Mesnati check PM. It's working for me :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
O....M......F......G.......
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
Thanks ... i'll try
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
Don't spread bad energy on forum! :P
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
Hi bossy!

I did try it ...but unofortunately it doesn't work for me :(

I have disabled "Data enable" and installed APNDroid ... it is "ON" and MMS enabled.

But cannot send MMS either :(

Oxygen 2.2.2.r3
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] swayjd:
So, leaving data enabled and deleting the Internet APN doesnt suit your needs because?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
No because i do need occasionally internet APN. (When Wifi is not available). Just on demand.

Brgds,

S.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] swayjd:
Hum, well for us, there is an app called APNportugal that enables/disables the internet APN with a little widget. There might be something out there that does this in your country.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
Thanks!. I searched for it but found nothing useful for me.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
Ok. Then we don't have a solution for this. :(

As I understand this problem is only in Oxygen and CM7. It works in MIUI rom and original rom.

For me this is not such a big problem, because my data is always on except if I am on battery saving, then I'm without MMS also...

I think it is a general oxygen or CM7 problem.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
swayjd,

APN Portugal or APN Droid don't solve this question.

Even with APN Droid and MMS Enabled option, with Oxygen ROM, I can only send MMS with Data APN active.

I've tried to give fake values to Data APN, i've tried with both APN PT and Droid at the same time.

Does not work, MMS only go out by the APN for Data Plan.

:(
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
It is not such a big deal but it would be a nice feature included in CM7 and/or Oxygen tough!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
of course it won't work.

Imagine this:

You have a TV, you if is not connect to the electricity you won’t be able to see any image. You can add a DVD, a Home System, etc, but no power no functionality

It would be a good feature though.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] mesnati:
Such a smart post from you indeed ... could you please borrow this piece of your brilliant mind to your animals at your farm?

Druid please read the following: Druid69
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
OMG. Not you again.

You are following me????

Well, they say a dog always follow its owner...

mesnati please read the following: mesnati
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
Could you just stop! You are posting everywhere and seeking for arguments...

Please behave little bit and stop being such an ass.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lourenzo:
@druida69

1st - ranting on people won't get you anywhere.

2nd - if you've searched the portuguese foruns (like androidPT) there are several users that say they could enable it (in some phones) after some tweaks on the APNs. Go try that...

3rd - this isn't easily done because its operator dependent and its more likely you get it done if you bother the guy who did APNPortugal instead (search the market).

This king of behavior (bullying) ins't good for the forum - usually it gets the DEVs to quit easily by dropping their motivation.

If you have some unresolved issues go get it sorted elsewhere (use PMs, report to moderators, ...). Remember this sub-forum is strictly technical (I know I'm OT right now).

peace out.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
dzo answerd me on other post here on xda about Oxygen and MMS subject.

I think there's nothing more to say... since he says it all:

"I had a look at getting mms working without a data plan and it's not a simple fix. This is how gingerbread works and it's the same on all aosp roms."

For me... Case Closed :P
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
Ok. Case closed :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
In Stock and MIUI roms you are able to send MMS's without data plans or having "Data Enable".

Even MMS being a "data service" it’s a different service than data internet.

When you are creating the APN’s for the data services on your device, you need to create 2. One for internet and one for MMS.

Some companies do work with just 1 APN that automatically manages the type of data (internet/MMS).

I don’t have data service and I can send and receive MMS, considering I don’t use Oxygen and CM7 roms. Using Stock or MIUI no problem at all.

My colleagues have 1 Huawei X3 and Samsung Galaxy Ace both with STOCK Gingerbread roms and both also without data plans and they can send MMS's without having to Enable Data.

Therefore, I don't agree with DZO, being him a DEV or the President.

You don’t even need to be Intelligent to not buy that excuse, you just need to test it for yourselves using your devices or from someone you know and prove it.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
It's ok. Dzo probably has diifrent issues that are more important to solve. So if somebody needs mms's to work poperly just use miui or stock rom. ;-)

Sent from my u8800
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
That excuse is acceptable. The ones given before see not because are not correct according to the way things really works
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
Druida69

Isto até podia ir em português... mas não é preciso :P

This were dzo exact words:

"I had a look at getting mms working without a data plan and it's not a simple fix. This is how gingerbread works and it's the same on all aosp roms."

And it is all there: "it's not a simple fix."

You can discuss if it is really like this or like that, dzo has the last word since he is the brain behind the ROM :)

Abraços :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
man, please tell me I'm imagining things and that I did not read this excuse being quoted again after my explanations above....

Talvez eu é que devesse escrever em português para perceberes...

Abraços
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
Eu percebo tudo Druida69...

Mas em ultima análise o dzo programa a ROM como entende, no minimo podemos pedir-lhe que resolva o problema. E ele fará o que bem quiser.

Se não gostas da ROM dele és livre de usar outra qualquer, acho que é a forma como estás a escrever que pode soar a falta de respeito para com o trabalho dele.

Não estou a dizer que é isso que pretendes, mas é isso que soa e por isso já tiveste discussões com outros users.

PS: Eu não quero entrar em discussão, estou apenas a tentar explicar-te o que está a parecer.

Abraço
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Druida69:
Quem gostar de discutir os assuntos comigo de forma saudável e por forma a progredir trocando ideias e pontos de vista pode faze-lo. Quem não tiver capacidade para isso, interpretando de forma errada as coisas que digo tenho pena. Agora jamais faltei ou faltarei ao respeito a pessoas que realmente contribuem de forma significativa para isto, queé o que dos Devs, a quem muito agradeço pelo seu inestimável trabalho e contributo.

Se já tive discussões com alguns, já sim senhor, e talvez terei mtas mais. Quem não gostar que coma só as batatas que é para o lado que durmo melhor.

E para que fique claro, gosto muito da oxygen e das outras roms todas. Todas tem as suas particularidades e defeitos e os Devs, como pessoas inteligentes que são, ao colocarem aqui o seu trabalho tem que estar abertos a ouvir todas as opiniões, e sei que estado pois as ideias que coloco aqui, também as exponho pessoalmente a eles. como te disse quem quiser partilhar tido bem, quem não quiser para mim são como que cães a ladrar enquanto a caravana passa lolol. Abraço
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Ozgurce:
You're in an English forum. Use english!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
Özgürce,

Don't worry, I was just trying to explain Druid69 my point of view since he could be understanding me wrong.

And he replied the same, that way no missing points with wrong translations.

Back to subject:

On oxygen or CM7 MMS are only available with full data activaded, until further developments that is the only option.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] tringstad:
Solution found?

Did anyone find a solution to this issue?

Stock ROM the MMS opens the MMS-APN automatically. I now run on Oxygen 2.2.2 -r4 and MMS does'n work automatically. I use the Handcent SMS application.

Can this be an issue with the Handcent or is it the ROM causing this to happend?

I have read the whole thread here and i have been seeking and googling around, but no luck...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] VuDuCuRSe:
There is no solution, because there is no problem.

MMS is data (that uses a different "proxy", so to say...) and therefor needs the data to be enabled.

Some ROMs use a dumb-prof approach that makes people think that MMS works like SMS and can be sent without data enabled.

People who understand that, live happily and without extra costs, just be consciously managing their "internet" and "mms" APN.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] MaRcIuPT:
and what if I know that MMS need data enabled but some roms can ONLY activate the data for MMS? that makes all the difference because If you activate data to recieve or send MMS android automaticly do something and you have to PAY that extra data.

with miui I can send/recieve without extra costs. with anyother I pay extra money because I (like many ppl) dont have data plan. piece
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
Vuducurse,

If there is no problem explain why do I have to activate a data plan to send mms?

or, if there is no problem, why I need to spend double money to send mms... Money from the mms itself and money because I use data plan...

I send you a real "no problem" example:

- stock ROM, sending an mms costs me 0,20eur

- cm7 or oxygen cost me 0,20eur plus additional 1 eur for using data plan for one day!

... If this is not a problem... I don't known what is a problem to you
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] boss_y:
Look if you want this feature to work like you want, then install CM7 rom. On MIUI and Oxygen you can have mms only over data.

I would like to have it also, but that it the way it is.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] nrdl:
boss_y

on cm 7 the problem is the same...

The only question here is some people say that this is a false problem... If it is why does it works properly on stock or flb...

It is a gingebread aosp feature, just that, don't say it is not a problem... Because I showed a real example.

best regards
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] MaRcIuPT:
you need data do send things that's a FACT. you cant send things with the voice line so the data enters. end of problem

MIUI can send MMS without extra data enabled. only MMS count.
[General Questions and Answers] Sekms:
I was doing downgrading my galaxy S2 GT-i9000 using odin...unfortunately, by mistake i pull it off from usb cable....Now it is totally not able to be switched on. I tried using mocro usb jig but nothing happen...could someone who knows the problem, please help......
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vishaljain:
Hi,

I recently flashed to XXKI3[PDA: XXKI3| Modem/phone: XXKI3| CSC: XEUKD1]

Everything here is great, but I just noticed that now I cannot open the excel workbooks anymore. The program(Polaris Office) just force closes itself every time. Can I do something about it?

Thanks,

Vishal
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rembrandtlnx:
Try to clear in manage applications menu, cache and data of the app that fc. Usually this will fix
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vishaljain:
wow, that just did it for me. Many thanks!

-Vishal
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rembrandtlnx:
Anytime =)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3waygeek:
Worked for me, too.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] williamsean:
I'm currently using the Lite'ning Rom and I want to change the display's dpi setting of this build, but the build.prop file is marked read-only, so I cannot edit it with Root Explorer.

Is there a way to edit this file, maybe edit it in the ROM-image before flashing?
[LG Optimus 2x] David2X:
Hi all,

I notice that after installing Topogigi 1.6 (end even 1.7) the Data Icon (3G/H Icon) stay in status bar even when Wifi is on and connected (see attachment) Moreover, It seems sometime data doesn't disconnect when Wifi is on.

Anyone experienced the same problem? I can't find any answer on Topogigi thread..

Thanks!

D.
[LG Optimus 2x] undeene:
don't worry about that.it happened to me on the stock rom too.

it just shows data but i it is not connected.only when u see arrows up and down then it's connected.
[LG Optimus 2x] -sandro-:
you're complaining and I instead want this feature on cm;)
[XPERIA X8 General] Hazerm:
Hey guys, is it possible to have the new Sony Ericsson Live With Walkman stock ROM for the X8? The new Timescape looks quite nice and the Walkman app has changed tremendously and you can also change the theme now like the thread bubble colour and background colour in the Messaging app. I hope that it can be done really soon :)
[XPERIA X8 General] Blagus:
What I can promise is that I'll port Xperia Active apps for SE look and feel to FXP CM7 ROM for max stability. Porting will start tomorrow, when I get Xperia Active system.sin.

Something like this is already available for X10, Arc and Play - CM7 ROM with SE stock apps by Achtojan - CM7 speed with the beautiful SE 2.3 style.

Also, if someone has got Live with Walkman firmware, please PM me.
[XPERIA X8 General] Hazerm:
That looks interesting :)
[XPERIA X8 General] XtremePeople:
look interesting Blagus
[XPERIA X8 General] TimeWasterNL:
Sounds interesting! Would it be only thematical changes in media player etc?
[XPERIA X8 General] Blagus:
Well, mostly thematical, but with the actual Active's/Live's apks.

I do it mostly because I really miss a lot Play's UI.

And yeah, it'll be based on FXP CM7.
[XPERIA X8 General] Hamzai82:
woah nice 1 Blagus, cant wait. Does this mean we might be able to get the FB discovery app where we can share apps,music and so on? :)
[XPERIA X8 General] Blagus:
Maybe :) which one do you prefer? Active or Live with Walkman?
[XPERIA X8 General] Bahurs1:
both please. I would like to see the phone again with the same feeling when I turned it on.
[XPERIA X8 General] Blagus:
Combination is what I was thinking about.

Of course, boot animation, notification bar, everything, plus the smoothness of CM7 ROM :D
[XPERIA X8 General] Hamzai82:
yh, it would be nice to have a mixture :). Have you begun on this lovely project? :)
[XPERIA X8 General] eqyaq:
That would a great combination
[HTC ChaCha] timelessfahad:
Greetings!

I just bought a ChaCha last week, and totally loved it. The only problem I'm facing is that after using it for 3-4 days, my Accounts & Sync wouldn't sync anything, it just stopped working and now nothing is updated, my emails, facebook etc. nothing.

I'd appreciate if somebody who has faced a similar problem before would help me out. I honestly don't want to do a factory reset to get things working.

Regards,

Fahd
[HTC ChaCha] qbert456:
Look on here for low memory issues, its likely that's what's up.
[HTC ChaCha] timelessfahad:
It seems, the low memory was the issue. Uninstalled some apps and voila, it worked. Thank you :)
[HTC ChaCha] nkoleff:
I met this problem too, again low memory. They may have really think next time when putting 150 mb memory :(
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CobraManEng:
When I load google through any brower it loads mobile view, I have the settings set on festoon and not android.

Please answer me whoever reads this, whatever your thoughts are.

I want my phone to ALWAYS access the internet as a desktop not mobile..... Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Fairly sure their is a fix but you would need to search .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CobraManEng:
I've searched and searched, help anyone?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 4038153:
[HACK/FIX] Changing useragent string in browser to Desktop (Permanently).
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akbarhash:
Why go through all this why don't you just download opera or dolphin browser in the settings change the user agent to desktop (advanced in opera) and you are set.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] stickyasglue:
Any ideas if it would be possible to port the new Kindle Fire UI to the Nook Color? Because it would look hawttt!
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] koopakid08:
I have no idea why you would want that. See the other thread on this. Basically impossible because it won't be open source.

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If this post helped you don't forget to say thanks!
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] ponyboy82:
Yeah...not sure about this. However, you can customize the heck out of the Launcher and the UI in general with CM7. You might want to check out different themes and launchers to simulate the Fire's UI if that's what you're after.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] stickyasglue:
Because it looks awesome!
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] yourm0m1:
uh, sell your nook and buy a fire?? but really, how would anyone be able to honestly answer this question when the fire hasnt even hit the market!?
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] stickyasglue:
I don't know why anyone would be able to answer it or not, that's why I asked..
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] refreblast:
Reply

Personally, I would rather keep my awesome Nook Color with it's uSD capabilities and have the Fire UI then sell my Nook and buy a Fire.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prash.666:
I bought an samsung galaxy S 2 in july '11..that fone did have the skins for messaging in the stock app in it..but then the fone started over-heating alot..so samsung replaced me with a new phone in august '11..

But my replaced fone misses that

Feature..

I know I can use apps from the market like handcent or go sms..but I prefer stock app..

Any idea anyone wats happening??
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SirRomie:
There was a supposed bug in the messaging app and they ended up taking out the skins to correct it... I used to use the post-it one... :-(
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gertjan90:
I have the same problem, skins disappeared after firmware update..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Richy99:
How is the partition size determined by the rom/dev ? This is probably a basic question that has been covered (tried searching but cannot find what im looking for)

I remove alot of the junk apps from roms before installing so the more space i can get back and if im able to flash a smaller partition due to this removal the better it is for me

cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samsamuel:
take the your-rom-name-here.zip on your PC, extract the entire system folder, see how big it is, , thats what size (plus a few meg) that the system partition must be, i.e. the size cwm layout you flash.

The rest pretty much takes care of theirselves, though some chefs set slightly different cache sizes. 5 and 40 seem to be the two most common.

EG/ you take a rom taht needs 150 meg, remove 25 meg of apps, so i'd flash a 130 meg partition. Dont forget that if you flash an update of that rom, it will have teh apps again, and wont fit into your custom partition size until you remove them again.
[General Questions and Answers] jecskie:
I installed this ROM v15 Arcmini v6 and I found out that its great.

But i have a concern on its status bar. It won't slide up. I've been looking for the solution here but I didn't find it...

Is there a way to solve this issue?...

Thanks a lot..