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[Epic 4G General] testacon:
Not that Amazing IMO, too little to late for me...

So the crappy coverage I current have now in the 5th largest city in the country will continue for another ~2 years now.

I might as well go to Verizon now where customers have a USABLE signal and then re-evaluate Sprint when that contract is over. Since we all just lost our Sprint Premier Gold plans, loyalty really doesn't come into play now does it? Where is the perk to wait this all out at? Unlimited data? I'm lucking enough to have wifi in 75% of where I inhabit and that remaining 25% I barely push a gig a month, according to My Data Manager. What I'm not lucking enough to have is a cellular signal resulting with lots of missed calls right now.

I would have been more impressed if Sprint killed iDEN a HELL of a lot sooner and pushed the 800Mhz frequency to CDMA so that we have better building pentration...
[Epic 4G General] Neckberg:
So none of the current phones run LTE, which is rolling out mid next year. So, I got my Epic 1 year ago and my upgrade will be mid 2012, when 15 NEW LTE phones will be released.

Now I can relax and not HAVE to get a newer phone early.
[Epic 4G General] stilesja:
15 Devices actually. This probably includes hotspots, tablets, usbmodems, etc. But yeah, there should be a few LTE handsets by June 2012 which is when my upgrade (launch day epic purchase) comes in.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Impressive that Sprint hired James Woods to do the presentation.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
There is definetly some good news and some of you that thought they were gonna be able to flip a switch and this would be done tomorrow are being irrational. If sprints service does not meet your needs then switch and stop crying like a lil girl geez
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Full rollout of LTE by end of 2013 is pretty impressive if you ask me. Much faster than I was expecting. I would have guessed at least 3-5 years.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Definitely makes my decision to hold on to my upgrade that much easier. Epic til June like a muhfaka!
[Epic 4G General] testacon:
Who said anything about tomorrow, the end of 2013 is what's on the table here (if that timeline is met), and what if Clearwire goes under in the mean time? Say goodbye to WiMax...

In 2 to 3 years, Sprint's network might be the one to beat, but it's going to be a LONG 2 to 3 years.

Did you actually listen to the Q&A, Sprint had their ASS handed to them about the expense of upgrading? No comment on the potential bankruptcy they own 54% of?
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
They expected to finish by the end of 2013 could be earlier, and that is 100%.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
I posted several updates on what happened today over here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1292837

I also live-tweeted the entire event. Feel free to follow to read the backlog.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
You know why they can't comment on the potential bankruptcy?? Its against the law. Its called insider trading. cmon...get with the program. The analyst are idiots for thinking they would answer such an incriminating question.
[Epic 4G General] testacon:
I can't think of a signal telecom that has met a deadline of an undertaking this huge, not Verizon not AT&T but Sprint can? Plus there is a very possible bankruptcy issue with Clearwire that Sprint might have to deal with that will prolong this even further.

Who else is going to invest in Clearwire at this point, other than Sprint?

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Be that as it may, the question is still valid and eye opening for some people on the state of Sprint's resources and their finances. If the $20 Billion dollar deal to Apple is true and with all of the other things that are currently on Sprint's plate and all of the losses of revenue of the last fiscal year, how are you not the least bit concerned about Sprint's future? It wouldn't be the first time a company bit off more than they could chew.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Sprint is playing their cards the best way possible right now. It will pay off
[Epic 4G General] AOD_Corwin:
Yeah but I'm paying for it now.. and I'm sure the epic is not LTE compatable
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
When was that promised?
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Lol yeah and we will need a new phone anyways by then for voice over 1x silly people
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I cant wait for the day verizon customers are forced to roam on sprint for better coverage

But its probably never gonna happen
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Sprint wants to be where Verizon already is, IMHO. Verizon is able to get away data caps because it is the king of the hill right now with best coverage, data speed, phones and frequencies... Sprint is trying to catch up but who is to say VZW will rest on its laurels? VZW probably has a few upgrades up its sleeve as well and wants to keep the quality gap so it can maintain healthy profit margins. If Sprint does catch up, VZW will be under pressure to lose its data caps or lose customers, which if happens will put additional pressure on Sprint and at the end their customers are the real beneficiaries :D

I am still debating whether to continue with SERO Premium and Sprint or to port my number to my wife's VZW family plan. The monthly costs will be comparable: I will lose unlimited data and 7pm unlimited min, but will gain good indoor coverage, fast data speeds and 4G LTE which actually works indoors. The deciding factor would be the speed with which Sprint implement its promised improvements on 3g data backhaul to improve data speeds, which currently swallow. I am giving it until the end of the year (Sprint iPhone impact on data speeds, if/when released will also be evident then).
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
The thing that most people miss the point of what does it matter how fast your data is if you can't use it because your email made you surpass your cap
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Meanwhile.....

Sprint dropped 20 percent today based on a clumsy presentation and a cloudy outlook for the future, paired with their admission that they are super short on capital.

Hard times.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...since-2008-after-saying-it-needs-capital.html
[Epic 4G General] testacon:
Verizon will still be on the top of the food chain even in 2013 because Sprint is introducing LTE on the 1900 MHz frequency range, it will still have the same building penetration than current 3G phones have. Verizon was smart enough to grab all of the 700 MHz spectrum it could get and use that for LTE. Sprint should have dropped iDEN sooner because that frequency range has much better building penetration and would help significantly with fringe area reception. WiMax (2.5Ghz version) is a joke considering the coverage map states a boat load of "On-street" service, because that's practical for most people to go outside and use their phone. Even after the first round of build outs are complete, you still have to wait for 800 Mhz LTE towers to come up and then next generation phones to be released with 800 MHz LTE built in before the signal will get better.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-launch-lte-1900-mhz-spectrum-mid-2012/2011-10-07

Now granted, those living close enough to a tower probably aren't having issues like this but I don't think that those limited people are going to be able to keep Sprint afloat. It seems that about 101,000 people saw something they didn't like this second quarter. I was also being nice and not posting the whole last year of losses were. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/29/technology/sprints-profit-margins-disappoint-investors.html

If Sprint doesn't do something NOW, to fix it's penetration problems the defection rate will keep increasing and I repeat again, it's going to be a long 2-3 years...

Oh and I just got these links in an email, I completely forgot that Sprint is hosed if the AT&T/TMobile deal gets approved.

http://www.thestreet.com/video/1127...sprint.html?CM_VEN=AD|FB|JC&s=1#1206644192001

Finally check what Clearwire stock is right now, it's down -32.30% and it's a whopping $1.39, sure that'll keep for 2+ years, no worries there...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...as-sprint-says-accord-may-end-after-2012.html
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Somebody needs to buy out Sprint and Clearwire asap. Capital issues need to be resolved.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Email? :D Verizon charges $30 for 2GB. I hardly ever use that much per month on Sprint, and that's with tethering every weekend for hours (don't stream, just surf the web). At most, will have to pay an extra $10 for the 3rd GB. I can live with that.
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
Since all of these plans have the corporate brand "Sprint" attached to them, I'm taking everything with a grain of salt. The fact remains that this company is in horrific shape and will mostly likely end up subsumed by a rival. Watch investor response - it's far more significant than any boastings about wholesale service upgrades. I highly doubt Sprint as we know it will even last long enough to implement any of the things they said yesterday.

And the fact remains that in the here and now, their data service is atrocious. In my neighborhood (the Upper West Side of Manhattan), I can't crack .30 Mbps with any of the smartphones in my family. 4G is a waste of time since it can hardly ever stay connected and uploads at the same speed as 3G. Meanwhile, they're happily collecting money for services they're not really providing. When questioned as to why the speeds are so bad, I'm told the same thing I've been told whenever I've called to complain: "A tower is down." Nevermind that I've also been told that same tower issue has been fixed four different times. So, either Sprint's repair personnel are incompetent or their account service reps are liars - the truth is probably some combination of the two.

Anyway, those statements yesterday are the kind of pie in the sky b.s. that fledgling companies release hoping to swing investor confidence vis-a-vis raising money for future ventures. When you're unable to produce understandable earnings estimates, particularly ones that illustrate the capabilities of a major new expenditure (iPhone 4s), the message sent to investors is that the company is spending money without a plan. Guess how well that approach works.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Just now, I am getting 1.2-1.4 mb down, 0.7-0.8 up on Upper East Side on 3G. Likely it's early in the morning and speeds will drop but still - never had 3G break the 1 GB dl barrier with any consistency using Sprint/Speedtest on UES. 4G is also doing something unprecedented - broke 9 mbps (which never happened) and is averaging 4-8 mb down/1.2-1.8 up. Will test again during the day. Upper West Side 3G speeds are generally worse as ^^ said, but maybe Sprint beefed up their backhaul prior to the annoncement ;) My office is on Upper West and I will test the 3G out tomorrow. Unfortunately, the 4G coverage is way spottier on Upper West Side than the East Side and does not work in my building.

EDIT: getting over 8 mbps down on a bus on UWE. N
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
I can sometimes pull 5-6 but it's a moot put since 4G doesn't usually stay connected long to matter. Also, I'm guessing you were probably in the 70s-80s where data is better. The farther north you go, it gets dramatically worse. It doesn't surprise me that you're pulling good speeds on the other side of the island since I can crack 1.1 down on 3G just about anywhere else in Manhattan.
[Epic 4G General] Imaperson:
FWIW I can pull 1.8mb on my epic on 3g at my place of work. and 7 - 8mb on 4g.

Now on my dell 11z i can pull closer to 2mb on 3g and 12 - 15mb on 4g. uploads on 3g are around .8 - 1 mb and 4g sticks at 1.5mb for both.
[Epic 4G General] **super_flasher**:
Need to listen to this
[Epic 4G General] stilesja:
Look I get that you would like 4G or maybe would just like ten bucks off your plan and 3g but seriously you are not paying for 4g because everyone with a smartphone gets the 10 dollar fee. Unless your goal is to be the last person whining about this I think it's probably time to move on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] iphonedefector:
OK, so this happened on my Infuse too dont know if its an android thing? But I delete emails and then they pop up new again right after? Is there something I can do to prevent this? It's driving me crazy! I have my own pop email from my website I tried to run it as IMAP too , but that didnt help.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] wwwong:
;ffHey everyone,

Since most of the Xperia Ray related stuff are currently in this forum.

I thought I'd post the link to FXPs Development Thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285977

Enjoy! :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xutienan9520:
no download.......
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] wwwong:
CM 7.1 isn't released yet. They've had some problems with building the mod.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xutienan9520:
oh no...are they important?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] .: SID :.:
May be it's better to change this topic with this one?
[Galaxy S II General] restlesssoul:
Finally firmware update arrives in Brazil via KIES. :D

Version is PDA: KI1/ PHONE:KI1/ CSC:KI1 (ZTO)
[Galaxy S II General] thituto:
BrasilllLllLl

Ae, pra qual versão atualizou o seu? 2.3.4 ou 2.3.5?

Sabe onde posso baixar a ultima versão disponível?

Valeu..
[Galaxy S II General] restlesssoul:
Atualizou pra versão 2.3.4

A última versão é a 2.3.5, mas não sei se tem disponível essa versão pt-BR
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
http://briefmobile.com/how-to-listenwatch-sprints-strategynetwork-meeting-tomorrow

The meeting can be accessed two different ways:

Call-In – Call 1-888-393-1149 and use 6395937 as your ID. Make sure you call in about 10 minutes ahead of time to be sure there no problems for getting though. This way is not recommended for most.

Webcast – Go to here, like the “Webcast” link and register. Now you are watching it live! The webcast should start promptly at 9:30am. Remember to join ten minutes ahead of time. This is the way I recommend. (Mainly because it’s easy to watch at work or in class.)
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
Cool.

Setting myself up to be disappointed & somewhat satisfied.

My basic concern is experiencing a noticeable & noteworthy no no... Make that a hat tipping, river dancing difference in 3G performance, the 800Mhz band & current Wimax reliability during the roll out of this.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
I expect the best actually. Sprint has been drastically improving their network in most of the larger areas. Network Vision has had a smooth progression through the states. They haven't enabled it fully yet, but it'll come in the next year or so. We'll get more detail tomorrow morning.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
MOST is key word there as they have still left out Raleigh, NC which typically is one of the first to get stuff along with Atl, and Charlotte.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
What time is it for central time zone?
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
8:30am
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Cool thanks hope i have data to stream it
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
I just opened up a tab for the webcast. Thanks for the tip. Only 45 minutes to wait.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
i just open up the webcast too almost time and good morning xda people

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its live but havent started it yet
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
no video sucks...
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
I'm logged into the call since my work PC sucks. Fingers crossed for 800mhz Rev B goodness!
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
going to be dissapointed then i bet.
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Pessimist! =P
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Yes rev b and do advance please!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Talking about LTE rollout now
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
interesting LTE on the 1900MHz spectrum......thats new. always thought it would be on the 800MHz.
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
are you serious? LTE on 1900.... terrible idea just saying
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Well the evdo network goes to lte afther worth
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Woot! He just said 800MHz CDMA!
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
oh phew... 800 cdma and lte moving to 800 possibly... not as scared now...
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yeah thatll likely not happen till 2013 once iden is shut off officially. prolly why lte being put on 1900 right now.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Lte fdd is road map to lte
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Pessimist again! :p
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
mid 2012 LTE device.. woot my last premier upgrade will have lte
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
so nothing network upgrade wise till MID 2012. wtf
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Where evso rev b grr
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
i wouldn't count on it
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
He said the other guy was going to come on and talk about more on the signal soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
doubt they even get into talking about do-advanced today. seems more about the multimode upgrades and lte than anythign else.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
They have to put it there man we need more speed
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
This. Eliminating network congestion should be their primary concern at the moment.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
U see the graph that the evdo rev b graph multimode
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
They cannot skip evdo rev b man thats a bad choice
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
I don't use PTT, but I can see how roaming PTT would be awesome for businesses.

800MHZ 3G, just waiting on FCC licensing! Woot!
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Hmm faster data whats speeds
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
look at sprint's stock... its up 10% today alone.. ****ty i should have bought stock.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxlvr:
I bought some in anticipation of this announcement. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
well you have made a 10% improvement on your money... just watch out for them taxes that will hit you with like 33%-50% depending on gains
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Bastard! I wish I would have!
[HTC EVO 3D] lillee3377:
Live Blog

http://live.thisismynext.com/Event/Sprint_Strategy_Update_live_blog
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
check ur math its up 5.48% lol
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
Sprint Nextel Corporation Comm

(NYSE: S )

Real Time 3.3750 Up 0.3650 (12.13%) 10:23AM EDT

From Yahoo Finanace
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Well i guess no rev b then im leaving sprint
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
That's a huge jump in 4G coverage!
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
wtf by the end of 2013.. full LTE coverage on 1900 and possibly 800 mhz.... glad im with sprint..
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Want to hear wtf they are going to do with the huge amount of spectrum they hold in 2.5GHZ
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
True but 4g is nothing i rather have my 3g faster then 4g i have 4g here and its spotty and sucks
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
ha your right. was checking my fidelity account but guess i wasn't logged in as it showed me the delayed quote. haha
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
Clearwire holds it... from what it looks like now they're not really relying on clearwire anymore..
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
If they are putting LTE on 1900 then youll have no worries about getting 4G fine as thats where u get ur 3G now anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
Lte is going on 1.6 and 1.9 and 800mhz once iden is decommissioned in 2013
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
damn CLWR getting smacked by this.......

will be buying more likely no way they go away, wayyyy too much spectrum b/w them and sprint owned in that 2.5GHz area. likely either used for backhaul or they just use LTE TDD. Just too much spectrum to not be bought up and used.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
I dont think there gonna improve wimax at all im gonna have to get an lte phone and im like nah i dont want lte really
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yes we have stated this. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Good clearwire sucks they should go down
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
zomg clearwire is tanking.. last trade is down 12%

Clearwire Corporation

(NasdaqGS: CLWR )

Real Time 1.57 Down 0.48 (23.41%) 10:35AM EDT
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
was 26% a min ago

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what little you know
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
4G is great where I live, it just has ****ty building penetration since it's on 2.5ghz. That's why I don't get all the Wimax bashing. It's not a bad tech at all, it's just on a really, REALLY ****ty spectrum.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Man there rips off and they give u dial up speeds ive use to bee with them back then at the same time i had sprint 4g and clear 4g and man with sprint 4g it was way much better clear even stold money every day from my banck so i had to cancle my bank account
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Guess im downgrading now
[HTC EVO 3D] lillee3377:
They're taking a break and will start back up again at 11 am.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
I don't see how any of this helps the jacked up speeds we have right now or anytime soon. The iPhone will hit the network hard.

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
I knew all of this last year. The only I didn't know was the partner, we assumed clear wire
[HTC EVO 3D] eck0728:
So no evdo rev b /cry... no 1x advanced.. but full lte by end of 2013... seems like a fair trade if they can fix that battery drain issue with LTE
[HTC EVO 3D] hamn2eggs:
With Clear's value dropping like a rock, this puts them within easy reach of a full takeover by Sprint.

According to the chart, Sprint doesn't look like they'll be adding many new Wimax POPS, if any, because the focus will be getting LTE to market. They also can't just dump Wimax because of the amount of capital investment and equipment already deployed.

Wimax will be the new iDen in a few years. That is, Sprint will be talking about shutting down the Wimax portion of their towers and recycling that spectrum for leasing or whatever new technology comes along.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Grr wtf sprint where the need of 3g users that dont have 4g we need more speeds and man look at clear stock wow haha i hope they crash today
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Someone speaks that actually knows somewhat of what they are tlaking about!! :)

Also they could do things to increase the penetration but dont know if they really want to commit to the testing and what not itd req to do such. From what i've read there are ways around it but lot was in theory and such.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
It starting to sound like the real winner here is big red. A few more years of having the best network and the Droid prime. And I love how they bragged about how their CS reps don't give out credits anymore. Jerks

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yup full take over by sprint and running TDD LTE on the 2.5GHz spectrum or using it as a backhaul. Deff not going anywhere though. too much spectrum to just toss away.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
Fail. I live in a wimax city and I have never even got a connection. Wimax is just a bad joke. Period.

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
To the people that trade stocks is it worth it doing that im in the beginning process of doing that?
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
1X Advanced is still a go, and EVDO Advanced is still the option. It's just very strange both haven't been brought up at all, though it's not over yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] hamn2eggs:
How is that?

Sprint already has about half the number of towers they plan on keeping revamped and and getting rid of the other third they don't plan on keeping. That other third will probably not be just abandoned, but leased. That means that almost half of Sprint's market is already covered by their new towers. We just won't realize the net benefit until that segment is switched on.

Sprint's always been notorious for overbuilding towers and then leasing what they don't need or use.
[HTC EVO 3D] apatcas:
What exactly are you beginning to do?
[HTC EVO 3D] lillee3377:
Event about to start back up in 5 minutes. Live blog here.

http://live.thisismynext.com/Event/Sprint_Strategy_Update_live_blog
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
I'd like to get in on buying Sprint stock too, but I've never done any stock trading before.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Mostly buy a stock mostly sprint stock and trade