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[G2 and Desire Z General] Biffy:
I have a Desire Z and am wondering if the new Xperia pro would be much of an upgrade.

Some things I know I would love about it are hardware buttons, a hole for a lanyard strap (I've dropped my Desire Z twice and scratched it because of lacking this), also the arrow keys may be better than the touchpad too. The camera is obviously going to be way better as it's 8mp xmoor with 720p and a f2.4 lens. It's a little smaller and lighter which I would like.

Things I hope would be better and would be interested in opinions are:

Screen - I'd hope it would be brighter in sunlight with backlit led?

Speed - Think it has a better graphics cpu so should be faster?

Battery life - No idea why it should be but would hope it would be better

Negatives would be:

Sony software - probably a bit crap but cyanogenmod could work around this nicely

Memory - Less internal storage I think?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Biffy:
Further research has suggested performance will be about the same.

Surprised to have a 100 views and no replies. Is there no love for Sony, or do people just not want to consider upgrading from their Desire's yet?
[G2 and Desire Z General] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Looks ugly to me. Plus, i doubt it will have any developement. Staying on DZ!

Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
I agree, the Xperia Pro looks really dated to me, like something from a few years ago.

Wasn't Sony in the practice of locking the bootloader on past Xperia phones, preventing ROM development? I haven't followed lately, is this still Sony's stance? If so, it sinks the OPs hopes of having CM on this phone.

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The Xperia Pro specs say MSM8255 CPU @ 1 GHz. So in theory, it should be a bit snappier than the G2 (but not by much). And same amount of memory at 512 Mb. So it seems to be true that its not really much of an upgrade from the G2. Xperia Pro specs seem a little weak for a phone coming out in the next couple months. Most phones are going 1.2 GHz dual core, or more; and with more memory. So no, I would really not spend my money on this as an "upgrade".

Sony phones seem to be decent. I still personally feel that HTC's physical design and build quality is the best out there. And the lack of development on Sony phones can be a real deal breaker.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Biffy:
Personally I'm not too bothered about the looks of a device, more things like features, weight, usability etc.

Regarding CM:

"Users of Sony Ericsson devices have been left out of the CyanogenMod experience for a while now. We are happy to announce that users will be able to enjoy a full-fledged CyanogenMod with nearly full hardware support (we are still working on FM radio) starting in our next release. You can also expect nightly builds and more instructions soon."

Sept 28th 2011

From: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/sony-ericsson-xperia-support#disqus_thread

I did swear I would never buy another Sony device after having a Vaio P that died in under a year but this is really tempting me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Even if cm7 worked on a xperia pro, the G2 will blow it out of the water with its 2GHZ overclock!!!!!

Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ
[G2 and Desire Z General] Biffy:
What if the XP could be overclocked to 2ghz too? ;)

Plus the speed won't affect the quality of the camera / video, having hardware buttons etc.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kaijura:
If I was in your position, I'd wait until next year to roll over with the ~1.5-2ghz dual core lineups. At least with those I can feel confidence in that the tech isn't going anywhere anytime soon, same with core2's on PC right now. There is a point until clock speed difference becomes irrelevant (mhz gains) and it becomes more about chipsets, nm processes like they are doing with the intel core tech.

With a 1ghz, single core to boot, it's kinda like buying the last of the Q4 2010/Q1-Q2 2011 models, like getting a '10 car when the '11 have a new generation lineup, that has changed specifications and model revamps.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
They are similar Snapdragon chipsets, the one on the G2 is only factory clocked at 800 MHz versus 1 GHz for the CPU on the Xperia Pro. We can get into a long discussion about the overclockability of one particular chipset model versus another, etc. For instance, there are certain makes of Intel PC processors which are reputed to be highly overclockable. But unless you have reason to think this is the case with the CPU on the G2, you have to consider the fact that the CPU on the Xperia Pro can be clocked just as high, if not higher.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Yes it CAN be overclocked as much...but will it? I dont think so, as i dont think it will get much developement now.

Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ
[G2 and Desire Z General] ptesmoke:
My .02,

I owned a sony xperia x10, and I will never look back at sony after owning the DZ. HTC has such a higher build quality, plus gorilla glass screen.

I don't follow sony anymore but the x10 bootloader was locked down and was still locked down 9 months after release when I left it in the dust!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Shadow-Nexus:
Hey don't ever get this phone

I've had a mini pro and we never got the gingerbread upgrade and its stock software is so crappy

Just stay with the G2 and wait for the dreamly G3

Stewie just said that!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Graegor:
+1! And can't use Android without Sense. That was the reason to buy my first HTC Desire, then DZ.
[G2 and Desire Z General] GreenBastard:
Well I went from the DZ to the Xperia Pro when I read that the Xperia Pro would get full CM support.

Here's what I like about the Xperia Pro:

GPS is faster

better reception

nicer screen

better camera

lighter

front facing camera (pretty cool with skype)

arrow keys

Here's what I dont like about it:

usb connector at the top (looks stupid when charging)

awkward power button position

notification LED on the side of the phone (also stupid)

i feel that the things i dont like are more like minor inconveniences though

sure, the DZ has nicer materials but the hinge on mine got really loose and i got some scratches on the display even though i was pretty careful. also that metal on the back of the DZ looked like crap in no time because the coating started to flake off.

i thought i would hate sonys customization of android but i actually think its pretty neat. maybe i wont even install CM once its available (yeah i will ;) ).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Biffy:
Interesting comparison GB and thanks for sharing. Although I'm very tempted by the XP I think I might wait for a qwerty device with a higher res larger screen. Although then I'll probably lose some of the nice advantages of the XP like real buttons and better camera.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeadlyCords:
Recently had an issue with the mobile network after flashing notification bar mod.

The mobile network is stuck on 'turning on' and the box with the tick is unpressable.

I tried rebooting and removing the battery.

Still didn't work.

I then tried restoring my nandroid backup, and still isn't working.

Anyone have any idea what the issue is?

Never incountered anything like this.

Please help

RESOLVED - MODS CAN DELETE THREAD
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CitizenLee:
You should add how you resolved it so other people who have the same problem can try and fix it ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeadlyCords:
So weird, I thought I did... Did it on the wrong post.

I resolved it by reflashing kernel. Did the trick
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romut:
Hi everybody,

I'm totally new in the I9000 world, I just owned a Desire some months ago for a limited time.

I need to reflash my i9000 and I just don't know how to choose a ROM. I've read some tutorials about how to flash, how to get the best from the I9000...but I didn't find anything about the differences of the ROMs.

So here what I need : I'm looking for a ROM pure Android, no fancy Samsung effects. And this ROM can allow some overcloking and/or voltage management, it's perfect. I'm not looking for a overloaded ROM, just a simple one on which I can install the apps of my own choice.

Any advices?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhu1:
Good title of the thread!

hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upichie:
You could always try just a stock Android. Download the latest one, give it a go. Couple it with a kernel for overclocking and whatever other features you need—and that should do the trick!

Otherwise, honestly, the only way is to try them. Check the dev section, read the threads, pick out ones that look good to you, and then start flashing! It's honestly not too complicated of a process. Flash a few of them, see what you like and what you don't like, pick the winner, and then start setting up your phone. :)

Good luck!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romut:
Ok, let's do this. Thanks upichie.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upichie:
You're very welcome. Shoot me a PM if you have any questions. I'm no developer, but I know my way around flashing a phone. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wesku:
I'd recommend Insanity cm.

Very light, fast and also gives good battery life.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romut:
Thanks Wesku, let's give a try to Insanity.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romut:
Hey Malcho, I haven't read all the thread right now, but it seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Kudo for you, thanks a lot.

Now, some things to read.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malcho:
My advice try hybrid lite with semaphore kernel or new stock deodexed jvt with midnight or semaphore kernel.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Przekret:
S5830DDKQ6:

# autogenerated by buildinfo.sh
ro.build.id=GINGERBREAD
ro.build.display.id=GINGERBREAD.DDKQ6
ro.build.version.incremental=DDKQ6
ro.build.version.sdk=10
ro.build.version.codename=REL
ro.build.version.release=2.3.4
ro.build.date=Wed Sep 7 19:49:05 KST 2011
ro.build.date.utc=1315392545
ro.build.type=user
ro.build.user=root
ro.build.host=DELL148
ro.build.tags=release-keys
ro.product.brand=samsung
ro.product.model=GT-S5830
ro.product.name=GT-S5830
ro.product.device=GT-S5830
ro.product.board=GT-S5830
# ro.build.product is obsolete; use ro.product.device
ro.build.product=GT-S5830
ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi
ro.product.manufacturer=samsung
ro.product.locale.language=en
ro.product.locale.region=GB
ro.wifi.channels=
ro.board.platform=msm7k
# Do not try to parse ro.build.description or .fingerprint
ro.build.description=GT-S5830-user 2.3.4 GINGERBREAD DDKQ6 release-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=samsung/GT-S5830/GT-S5830:2.3.4/GINGERBREAD/DDKQ6:user/release-keys
# Samsung Specific Properties
ro.build.PDA=S5830DDKQ6
ro.build.hidden_ver=S5830DDKQ6
ro.build.changelist=561540
ro.build.buildtag=
# end build properties

Download:

http://hotfile.com/dl/131600944/e0d1ec0/GT-S5830_INU_S5830DDKQ6_S5830ODDKQ5_S5830DDKQ6.rar.html

Pass: sampro.pl
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] gemini23gm:
Can you please post screenshot of this version. I am having S5830DDKQ5 firmware in India but kies is not showing any update . Anyone has tried this firmware ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] imranaryan:
what are the changes for ddkq5 to ddkq6
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sachin_22:
Please post screenshots and the changes...Is it the leaked ROM ??

Because kies shows no update available ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ananddugad:
plz upload scrnshots

hw its work ?

is it stable ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] DeathMetalMods:
Hey ... an new 2.3.4 ? I am interested :-) subscribed!

But why isnt it on samfirmware?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] aish_varya:
kindly highlight what this script will do ?

features....
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sachin_22:
Anyoe tried out this ROM ??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] gemini23gm:
Hi Yes i have tried this ROM and works fine. I upgraded from DQ5 and surprisinly didn't lost any data, contacts or settings. After upgrade i didn't do wipe data in recovery mode. Also one more thing KIES says that it can't upgrade this version of firmware. Is KQ6 an official version from samsung ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
nope, hence it voids your warranty
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Shaaan:
Got KQ6 officially from KIES. Updating..

:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hypergamer1231:
No it does not void your warranty its an official samsung india firmware if anyone buys a new ace in india now he gets this firmware so though the link is external it is an official rom my friend recently bought an ace and he has this firmware i personally find it much better than KQ5
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] gemini23gm:
Oh is it officially available on KIES. I will check my KIES today.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chaoszero6:
can anyone tell me how to upgrade from DDKQ5 to DDKQ6 plz???
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hypergamer1231:
Connect your phone to kies and go to the firmware option
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hypergamer1231:
is this a one file or 5 file package
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sachin_22:
Do u notice any changes ??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sachin_22:
I updated yesterday to ddkq6 from kies..the phone feels a bit snappier and fast...thats it...till not i have not figured out any changes...people please share if they find out something different
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Okay sorry guys, its just that i had checked in kies and there was no update.. btw now i updated, i don't see many changes, its all the same it was
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hp7909:
Just got notification on Kies & just to be sure, do I need to unroot & or wipe phone to update to this from DDKQ5?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evilxdeadly:
no, flash with odin after flashed, boot in recovery and wipe data and wipe cache
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hypergamer1231:
guys good news for everyone using this stock rom.....

I have found a brilliant combo for this firmware

First install DDKQ6

then install cf root cwm from this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1158197

the install cf root b82 from the same link and after this format system to ext4 and install app2sd

finally in v6 supercharger select option 4 and then after supercharged use the phone its very fast and am getting 1600 in quadrant which is good for a stock rom cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] riikii:
the one change i noticed in kq6 is that we can now take screenshot by pressing home key and then lock key(while the home key is still pressed).. its a lot easier than before... if anyone else notices another change plz post...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Diliban:
DEODEX and ROOT available for DDKQ6 FW in the below thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1321503
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hairie199:
According to Androidadvices.com.

Enhancements in DDKQ6 Gingerbread 2.3.4 Release:

Better Battery Life,

RAM DUMP Mode error solved,

Home screen lag and the brightness bug has been solved,

Stability fixes have been induced in this version,
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] zt3:
I had this flashed yesterday using ODIN and I must say that this ROM is much faster and more stable than 2.3.5 XWKS2. Two things I don't like though: (1) it doesn't have the overscroll glow effect and (2) switching between 1st and last screen at main menu is limited (i.e. 1st screen to last screen can only be done through swiping at the right direction and not the other way around).
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chaoszero6:
Flash DXKPD it is also better and the latest....
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] LeonardoDeKenji:
Screen please :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] devilsking:
This is stock rom. WHy do u need screenshot? It's not different from others stock gingerbread roms
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drvalianto:
SO many stock roms. what SHould I choose the rom now? :-s
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chaoszero6:
I recommend DXKPD
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] vinay0708:
the roms are area/country specific. so use suitable for ur area.

in india, i have upgraded to ddkq6 through kies. (kies to recommend an rom upgrade, u have to upgrade ur kies first.) this version is official.

btw - can i use this rom through cwm or i have to use odin?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kevinkrs:
Is this an stock rom?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
U have to flash it with odin.

Yes.

Sent from Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod & allinone ram script.

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'THANKS' button. [XDA RULE]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] TJKV:
How exactly? Remove the .md5 extension and use odin in one package mode with the .tar? I come from Moto Defy land to SGA land to help a friend get Cm7 on his phone :D

And what's with the .dll file in the rar?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pahan_88:
Download Start...

<0> Create File...

<1> StartThread Detected : 1

<2> StartThread Detected : 0

<3> StartThread Detected : 0

<4> StartThread Detected : 0

<5> StartThread Detected : 0

<6> StartThread Detected : 0

<7> StartThread Detected : 0

<8> StartThread Detected : 0

<1> setup connection...

<1> odin mode.. check plcatform verification.

<1> VerifyPlatform:V0, P0,R0

<1> START!!!

<1> set download environment.

<1> big partition size!!

<1> big partition size!!

<1> big partition size!!

<1> big partition size!!

<1> mibib download..

for some reason when flashing this firmware it doesn't proceed after this point onwards.. Does anyone have an idea what's wrong.. thank you..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ZN6:
do i need to wipe data before flashing this rom? im from ddkq5:confused:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Lijop:
not necessary.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ZN6:
thanx man the button is there

btw the rom is little smoother than ddkq5:D
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
After a falling out with AT&T, I think I'm switching to Verizon. I'm currently using the Motorola Atrix, loving it so far. Bionic seems like the brother to it in Verizon. Now, this will probably take place in the next few weeks. If I switch, should I get the Droid Bionic or wait for a newer phone? I'll be paying off contract for the phone. Hoping to hear some input from users (as well as people who know the real definition of 4G, novel concept).
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cbal04:
I'd go with the bionic, there will always be a better phone released a couple months after you buy, no matter what it is. Don't wait around to jump into the latest and greatest, because you'll always be waiting.

The bionic is a solid device, and most are very satisfied. I know I am. Wirefly is selling it for $150 with new contract right now, and you may even find better elsewhere.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Squiz0329:
Yes. Do it.

Yeah, I'm Homeless.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
Yup. I completely agree.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] doogald:
Ok, despite the fact that I bought a Bionic just yesterday, and did not wait, I think I would wait those couple of weeks to see what's up with Verizon's new handsets (Prime, Vigor, etc.), and perhaps to wait out the expected OTA update to the Bionic that people say is coming in November.

If you can't wait, the Bionic is a nice phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
I would recommend waiting for the Prime or considering something that has an unlocked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dhemke17:
Is there any word of verizon getting any phone with an unlocked boot loader? I know that some, like the thunderbolt, can be unlocked via hacks, etc... but will there be one that will come with the ability to unlock it right out of the box? If there is, I may also hold off on the bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
Unfortunately I will be footing the entire phone cost, so subsidized phones aren't a luxury for me.

Do you think the Prime will have better specs than the Bionic?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] doogald:
The latest rumor is a 1.2 GHz dual core processor, with 32 GB of external storage, 4.65" display (though ice cream sandwich has no menu/home/back/search buttons, so the size of the phone may be about the same), slightly thinner (1 mm I think), about the same battery.

This is a rumor, of course.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

As far as I know, since they are development phones, all of the Nexus phones have had unlockable bootloaders, though there is no guarantee of that, either.

We should find out next Tuesday at CTIA.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jrevels:
I would def go with the Bionic. I first upgraded to the Samsung Charge, But then quickly returned it once the Bionic released. It was a great decision. The week that i owned the Charge i was running into all kinds of small Glitches and bugs, nothing real major but enough to get on my nerves. The only thing that the Charge had over the Bionic was the Picture quality....

So far i have yet to experience the amount of glitches with my Bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] TheBiles:
Wait a month and get the Nexus Prime. I know my Bionic is going out the window for that bad boy.

--

Sent from my Droid Bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] HybridAndy:
If your just buying the phone outright, I'd wait a couple weeks until the Prime comes out and pickup a Bionic on the cheap from someone who's switching. I have a feeling the used market is going to get flooded with them.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Vereynn:
If you can wait until the end of the month, strongly rumored Samsung Nexus-type phone is "due out" near the end of tthe month, better screen, faster processor, and Android 4.0 (and a Google Experience phone so no crapware.)

If you can't wait three weeks, get a Bionic in your hands to look at the screen; although if you already have one Motor qHd screen & if doesn't bother you, the Bionic appears to have the best Motorola pentile qHd display so far.

I'm happy w/ myBionic so far,but wouldn't mind 50% faster CPU and a 720p screen ;)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
According to this, it will be a pretty sweet phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
What is there, a 30 day return on phones. Think if I picked it up on contract (found a loophole), would that buy me time to a Nexus Prime?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lrs421:
I think it's only 14 days.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
That it would appear so...

Hmm. I guess I can always fork my paychecks over for the Prime when it's released.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moondrius:
I would wait for the Prime. Coming from a Charge the Bionic is inferior in every way other then speed. The Bionic is not a bad phone but the Prime will be a lot better.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] doogald:
It's 14 days, plus a $35 restocking fee.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
14 days for Verizon. If, like me, you order from Amazon, you have a 30-day window but then you can't reorder another phone from them for 60 days (to keep people from scamming rebates). meanwhile, unless you keep your Verizon contract active during that period, you'll be hit with an early term fee of several hundred bucks.

Personally, I'd rather buy phones unlocked and pay the higher price with the benefit of not being locked into a contract. But, none of the large carriers does it that way in the U.S.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] esbox:
Wait for the Prime or you will be very sad when it comes out. Regardless of the final specs, it's not going to be your average Samsung phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
The prime isn't even coming to VZW. You'll be waiting a long time

Sent from my DROID BIONIC
[Motorola Droid Bionic] civicsisedan:
^^^

Droid Prime is coming to verizon.

I am returning my bionic before 14 days is up and waiting for HTC Vigor. I like sense too much.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] envizion58:
imo, you should wait. i love my bionic but the holiday season is approaching soon, there will be a new cycle of phones introduced including the new nexus and with a possibility of a bionic price drop. always better to have a wider selection.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigsapz:
Nah, looks like At&t cuz it's GSM

http://tinyurl.com/5tns2s4

Sent from my DROID BIONIC
[Motorola Droid Bionic] slacker69:
Sounds like At&t is getting a 3g only version. I would be really disappointed if the prime isn't on Verizon.

If the Bionic dosn't get an unlocked bootloader I would wait for the Prime or the HTC Vigor.