yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Perceval from Hyrule:
** Please note I mystaken in terms used and there was no offence in my report. I've reedited this original post to fits my feeling **

Hmmm, still no 2.3.7 planned ? nevermind :)

I'm gonna give two complaints about *new* things I really dislike. Please note I use "I", so this is my own opinion about things I'd see better. Idea is to improve Androidmeda and not just do some troll-spamming.

1.I really dislike Androidmeda OTA tool :

- always running in background (i've renamed the apk to kill it),

- really dificult to make it run properly (see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20123320&highlight=hyperdroid+parts+ota+tool#post20123320),

- Not nice to use compared to this XDA thread,

- Forced use to get themes, surgeons, ...

Good idea, but very bad ergonomics and it would be cool to also have access from other place than the apk (ie from computer, useful to edit ZIP before flashing ^^)

2. Androidmeda boot logo is cool, but I really dislike the voice.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] jetv1r:
there's no such thing as perfect rom...:)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mynamesteve:
What errors did you get?

That is the patch im using and it works perfectly here.

Haven't flashed the rom recently so i haven't tried veyka's patch yet.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] dikai_yang:
Nobody is forcing you to use certain themes/mods? The ROM is probably one of the close-to-stock ones. After the base, you then flash whatever you like, including those in the OTA tool. Most other roms ARE forcing you to use certain themes/mods by pre-Installing them for you. The OTA is an addon feature so if you don't know how to make a mod yourself you have something to choose from.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kielkiam:
No problem for me.

(five minutes for boot after patch, 'cause rebuild davilk)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] D3_:
No, he means you're forced to use the OTA tool to download the themes/mods.

I quite like the OTA tool, it's easy to use and not difficult to set up at all if you use a bit of common sense (I set mine up without looking up how to in just a few minutes), although due to server limitations (if I remember what doc said correctly) some downloads just don't work (like the mattedblack theme)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
You bring some objective points that could be improved but add some subjectivity to and that is just a matter of personal opinion.

Objectively, as anything, the OTA app could be improved. Setting the servers up could be much simpler and the UI could be improved to bring more visibility. But saying that it "sucks" is a bit too much I guess.

On the other hand, I love the nice lady on booting. And this is where subjectivity comes into play. I don't think that the prime objectives of devs is to please everyone's taste although it's always a gratification when your work is liked by most. It's not a mass product that's been sold which would require marketing and stuff. They do something that pleases them first then share it with us. If we like it we use it and they are pleased and if we don't we move on and that's fair enough.

They've got a lot to attend to, not to mention personal life, so developing the OTA app might not be a priority for the time being. Especially as I hear that they are working on something great. :).
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] petsasj:
1. If you really think that developing a new OTA app is easy, because you surely make it sound like that, then pm me. Perhaps with your wizardry we could finish the app faster, so please pm me Professor.

2. The voice was my idea. So you're plainly saying that I'm an idiot for including it. What's the problem with just removing it? Do you feel it's that hard to do it? Apart from the fact that it's plain stupid. Anyway, the new HDP has an option to remove this anyway.

I am sorry, Sir, but I am all for constructive criticism, but your post is clearly not that. It's just nitpicking of what you like and don't like. Most annoying of all is your tone and your choice of words. Noone is forcing you to use this ROM. This is being downloaded by thousands of users, all of them being individual persons that like and dislike different things. What you might find "idiotic" and "stupid" others, i certainly hope so, will find funny. Given the fact that we are doing this for FREE, not only in our free time, but most of the time of the day we are working on improving the ROM, i cannot justify your logic.

But then again, I must be weird or stupid for seeing things like this.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kenkiller:
Hehe.....I just wanna get Bluetooth HID working. :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] AvRS:
I'm yet to see any stock based TW ROM's (not AOSP) base off 2.3.7.

Thankfully all your opinions are exactly that your personal opinions and from reading this thread from very early on and seeing the OTA app come to fruition I actually think it's a great idea and a great start to what's likely to come from it.

Now for your 2 points:

1. Constructive criticism is helpful, saying something sucks is by no means constructive, worthwhile or needed so best to keep those opinions to yourself if you don't want to be classed as a troll.

-I don't get any battery drain due to the OTA app and not one complaint has been made that I've read about it doing so, unfortunately that leaves just user error, so you'll need to address that yourself.

-Easy to make it work if you read the initial instructions, could you have even flashed a ROM if it wasn't for a group of people making the functionality available way back when and providing instructions to do so. I don't think so. Common sense prevails.

-The app is more convenient with the minor kinks aside but this is personal preference and always will be.

-Better control for the devs as it's a single repository so less work to add individual links everywhere

2. I also don't like the voice so I do remove it as that is the choice I have while others do actually like it. You really do need to find a better choice of words as most people reading your thoughts are probably thinking some of your words about you. Just a thought ;)

As for reporting feelings, no one is actually interested in anyone's feelings but as said constructive criticism which helps develop ideas is always welcome. That's what these forums are for after all. Maybe read what you write first in future and think is it really worth saying or is it coming across how it's intended.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] TheBlueRaja:
Just wanted to add my 2 cents here - thanks for creating a great rom, but the voice, well, its not good and i do think your over reacting to some feedback.

Its the first thing i delete, so its not a problem for me but its embarrassing to be honest to have it sound like that when booting, cringe worthy in fact. if it rebooted in a pub you'd be a laughing stock for sure.

All i can think off when i hear it is this Simpsons episode where smithers turns his PC on:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xbyJGM1iUY

As for the OTA app, works fine with me, although im not sure why its not set to go from the start with the extras server.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] veyka:
Nope, I had to manually do the update script but apart from that it applied cleanly and works perfectly (I hate edify scripting :D)

Two things:

There are no 2.3.7 stock based roms, as we havent had a 2.3.7 stock leak, and as samsung have moved onto ICS we wont.

The sound is not my cup of tea, the first thing I did was remove it, but not after I had a small laugh at it, its REALLY easy to remove (or replace), so there is no need to complain about it.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] af974:
We really appreciate all your feedbacks but honestly it is very bad from you say that something that a developer made in his free time for the community "suck", you should use a better word like " i don't like", don't you think?

The Team made this rom as it is and checking the downloads count and feedbacks, it seems to me that this Rom does like to a most percent of users.

Keep in mind one thing, there are a lot of rom out of here and no one is forcing you to use AndroidMeda rom and, btw, it's not request to be a Recognized Developr to open a zip and delete what you think that "sucks".

You can't do those kind of comments and expect that people will answer to you in a different way :rolleyes:

That's my feeling, I do share it - feel free to comment, but don't troll with stupid things like "just don't use this apk", or "just remove the sound", because it is intented to report my own feeling
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
Please keep the voice. And thank you for turning it on. As you said, those who don't like it can still turn it off. I love the sound of it when I boot my phone.

I like this rom because the devs are dedicated to what they do and most of all they know what they talk about. No copy & paste here but real development.

One thing I never understand is how people are prone to being rude to people who enhance their mobile experience for free while they have more tolerance for manufacturers who have made them pay through the nose for a device they still have to mod to their liking. Why not turn to Samsung customer service and tell them that their green theme "sucks" or the phone doesn't feel smooth enough and their recovery doesn't allow you to freely customise your phone? And see what their answer to you, customer, will be.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] D.O.C:
Well, thanks for sharing your opinions, but quite frankly, I dont care about what your feelings are, and neither of my teamates for that matter. If you got bad "feelings" about this or any other rom, you might as well keep them to yourself because this is XDA-Developers, where people gather to share their developments upon several devices and platforms. this is not a emotional sharing group so dont get confused by it.

This has been lately drowned by useless posts, there are only a handful of people actually contributing in some way. The rest, is nonsense.

Do you honestly think we made this rom/kernel/theme/mod for you? NO, we made it for ourselves and we are sharing it.

Why open a thread then? because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS and we do want to learn and keep the development going on, and for that, sharing is a requirement.

Can we stop non developers to download and use the rom? Sadly no, we cannot.

So newbies cannot have an opinion? Sure they can, newbies are users who are learning their ways into developing.

Can n00bs have an opinion? well, n00bs is defined in my mind of those users that state their opinions without having a clue of what he is saying, but worst of all, he actually believes the things he is saying, so by definition, yeah, they do have a worthless pitiful opinion, that most of time we ignore.

But there is an end of things, and there is a limit of how much we can take. Jep there is.

A great update is coming for developers & newbies, the rest of you, well you can go on continue sharing your emotions.

Have a nice weekend
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
I'd define myself as a noob. And everytime I come here I learn something. And that's thanks to you guys. Don't let the ungrateful rob us from the great experience you bring.

Unfortunately, again, empty barrels make a lot of noise. Here for instance, you've got one person whose post will prompt a lot of reactions. But still, it's only one person. Make it 10 out of thousands, you could see that you don't need a lot of people to cause nuisance. But if, because of that minority, devs just get fed up, they are the less likely to regret it. While the silent majority will.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] yaronAD:
Sometimes I wonder how stumped & reality disconnected People can be?

from Where people have the nerve to Express their thoughts like that?

You Devs are too polite by your responses.... even to answer this idiot troll (which is very hard to avoid) is a waste of time
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kenkiller:
Hehe....we should stop feeding the troll.

The worst one can do to a troll is to ignore them.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] qureyoon:
But it's fun to feed the troll, no?

:-P

Troll aside, I've seen this phenomenal kernel http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19444802

Have some undervolting in other areas. I don't know about this kinda stuff. Maybe pongster will find this interesting?

Who knows it will make HDK much more better than it is now :-)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] LuffyPSP:
Can't wait for an update! hope its a non-wipe one! :D

and dang cant wait for samsung to roll out official TW ICS so Hyperdroid can go ICS!!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] theooo:
Finally i got dmesg for this problem, lucky it happened when i can use terminal emulator :)

here's the pastebin link for u guys:

http://pastebin.com/DhDyLBAj

Hope it helps.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ksantoshh:
Yes I Works properly, Tried it twice:-)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] D.O.C:
Thank you, yes it helps.It happens to me aswell, randomly, and at first I thought it was the BLN lights, that is waht dmesg showed anyway.

The I changed my case O_o....yeah i know, the case wth? and problem was solved (The case was longpressing the power button without me noticing that) XD..

This would be related to the advanced features that pongster has implemented in his kernel, about the device going into deep sleep to save battery, and dynamic frequency changes while screen turns off. You will be happy to know that in last of pongsters kernels (yet unreleased) the problem appears to be solved (I say appears bcause its only exclusive to some cpus, like yours and mind :(, so until further testing with more cpus like ours, we cannot be 100% sure)

Nevertheless wait for pongster reply on this, as He is the expert in this matter.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pongster:
Do you use BLN?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] theooo:
Glad it helps :)

I think u can gather ppl with this problem to do specific test if it's hardware related. I saw few ppl posting same problem few pages behind.

Hopefully this problem will be solved in future release.

I don't use bln. Last time i use it, it kills my battery :(
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Nurra:
Let me get this straight, base is for normal user like me and I can flash theme over the rom to get a new look. I don't need to touch and surgeon rom. :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
Guys,

I see that many roms & kernel backup battery stats and some apps are dedicated to resetting that in order to improve battery life.

But I read that this is basically useless and today have read a post from Google engineer Diane Hackborn in which she says that fiddling with it doesn't have any effect on battery life. Would like to have some enlightenment and devs thought on this.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] D.O.C:
Jep, I totally agree with that cause it is only a file which android reads, not the battery itself. Anyhow, she is a google engineer, she knows way more than we do :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
So if I understand correctly backing up or wiping battery stats should be forgotten all along? Right. Glad I don't have to worry about that one anymore :). Thank you for your prompt reply.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ksantoshh:
Yes you are right. You can flash the Base ROM and can then flash any theme of your liking from the OTA tool / or surgeons ( Themes are pre-included in surgeons)

Hope This helps!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] benc88:
Petsasj Pongster and Doc, just another unappreciative nooby nah nah with a lack of manners and respect for u the devs and the community.

I do believe the only solution is to create an agreement that if such nooby nah nahs attempt to sully this thread or Rom development they self sodomise themselves with a retractable baton until the stupid urge has passed !

Great work guys, u have already had my constructive critism, love the Rom.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] K_Hismoom:
Screen wouldn't come on again this morning, I waited a couple of minutes and tried again, but to no avail.

But the phone did still work, because it made the sound when I plugged a USB cable in.

The attached last_kmsg file is from right after I had to reboot. Had to strip a few lines to keep it inside the file size limit.

One thing to note, I'm running tegrak's 2nd Core app, could that cause problems?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] rnpasinos:
hi devs... could you help me with the joining unlimited contacts, but only if it's possible... im trying to use the one included in the OTA (v4.0), but i always get a FC when i apply it on the latest hyperdroid... is there a way around this? unfortunately, i think the dev has stopped working on this and i cant remember if it was doc or pong who posted that they cant have an updated version without the source code... but if there's an alternative, i dont mind... tnx!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pongster:
Did you set it to use 1 core only on screen off? Or all the time?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] K_Hismoom:
It's set for dynamic hotplug, turning off CPUs except CPU 0 when they are not busy.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Perceval from Hyrule:
To clarify

There were no offence attented, but I did know there would be such reations to what I've written.

Androidmeda is currently my fav' rom, and I've been testing a lot. I do know roms and custol dev is at first done for our own - I'm also doing the same, but Androidmeda became such a big stuff it's not anymore something only for devs... One again, there's no offence and I'm very disappointed to read things I don't think - Yeah, devs are idiot, yeah I'm just a troll...

If you want me to be rude, here we go : Android is made of free users, and some devs around here say power belongs to users. OKay ? But it looks there's no criticism allowed, and if you do, you're the worst troll in the world. We aren't allowed to tell you things we don't like ??? Sharing this is important as criticism helps to improve. And about "we do roms for our own", as I said, Androidmeda presentation on 1st thread and seriousness about the project made it a "general interest" a long time ago.

This sentence IS rude to show you "little" difference with my previous message, sincerely done. I do love the project and I just pointed the two things I don't like in it, shame on me !

So, please do not put word in my mouth I didn't say, and please apologize as everyone clearly misunderstood.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] imlgl:
I sometimes get an issue whilst charging. My phone says that the battery has been disconnected. This doesn't happen all the time. It happens at random times while it is charging. Usually it doesn't happen at all.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Simuur:
when ?

Looking soo forward to .. Just cant wait :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] AvRS:
It will always first and foremost be for themselves (the devs). It makes no difference how big it is or gets. If they didn't want to do it for themselves I'm sure they'd just give up as why waste their free time, it just makes no sense and only reason anyone would waste so much "FREE" time if they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts is because they've not got much going on in their own lives (that is an opinion but you see how I wasn't rude).

Their is a massive difference between offering criticism and being rudely opinionated. What you offered was the latter as you offered nothing constructive. An example of offering constructive criticism about the OTA app is maybe the way tweaks are sorted isn't easy to navigate and find what you need maybe it could be partitioned so that mods are together, modems are together etc. I have no issue navigating the app this was just the first and easiest example to give. The idea of constructive criticism is offering a suggestion on the back of finding a negative. Using words such as suck, idiot and so on which you did use can only be classed as rude opinions not criticism at all.

As for your sentence being rude, unfortunately it's no different to your earlier post so hopefully you can read them both and see that their exactly the same so you've now justified that you were in fact being rude so thanks for that.

No one should be apologising for criticising your post as everyone pointed out why it was rude but you still seem to have ignored it. Please share your criticism but at least make it constructive by offering useful feedback and suggestions don't use words like suck or idiot instead say it could be better by..... or it's not to your taste because..... and maybe by doing x, y or z it could make it a better experience.

Anyway I've tried to be constructive with you but you will probably ask for some kind of apology and ignore it so enjoy the ROM.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Shinfei:
In reading the last page, i think it's not your critisism which wasn't appreciate by dev but the words like "sucks" "ridicules" etc... just my opinion ;-)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Perceval from Hyrule:
Mmmh, so my mystakes by using "rude" terms but this wasn't my intention. Sorry for these terms, they didn't represent my feeling but in the other hand I'm happy to "electroshock" some people to make things move :)

Okay then, I didn't use the correct words and this caused such useless troubles, my mystake. Please consider my post just as positive criticism, and not a -not volountary- rude strike, thanks :)

---------- Post added at 02:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 PM ----------

Okay, now my polemics are closed (hoping so lol), i'd like to report a bug I have sometimes (not very important) : when I use SetCPU with a ScreenOff Profile scaled to Conservative (100 MHz min and 200 MHz max) and screen-on scaled to onDemand 100-800 MHz, sometimes profile is not switching to onDemand (it goes back to 100-800 MHz but with Conservative profile). I need to change it back to onDemand from SetCPU.

That's all ^^
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] karlesg:
my humble opinion (really humble because this comes from a real noob), is that there should always be room for criticism. Positive or negative. I also don't agree with some "aspects" of the rom but since i can change them, remove them, or not use them, it's fine with me.

BUT we must always remember that whatever these guys do (right or wrong, good or bad, it doesn't matter) they do it for FREE and in their spare time. They don't "owe" us anything. They don't have to comply with our personal taste or personal beliefs always. Each person has his personal opinion and these guys do what they consider the best, according to their beliefs.

So it's up to us to decide what to use and what not to use. But i think that we should always be grateful to all these guys here at XDA (devs,roms,kernels,apps,whatever...) that give us that opportunity to have FOR FREE, such a plethora of options. They owe us nothing, we owe to them.

Anyway I'm happy to see that the issue is resolved as it should be :)

And as I said this is just a humble opinion from a real noob and it doesn't mean much...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] amirsardari:
its the best rom that i have ever used . Stable . Smooth . Fast . Good Battery consumption . Eye Candy
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] bluedragon38:
So , a Surgeon is a "version" of this rom from devs of this rom right ? with différent script ok ? so .. for you .. what the best "Surgeon" ????
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] petsasj:
Yes. A version of the rom, with different bloatware-removing scripts, different themes, some additions depending on the surgeon. There is no best surgeon... Please read the surgeon posts in the first page. 3 Posts, pongster's, doctorcete's, and mine.