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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] bomek44:
Yes, and i think that i sucks...

But hopefully Sony starts to make really great phones, i believe that ST-ericson will stand behind them......

M.v.h bomrk44
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] phoneyericsson:
It must be said though that Sony used to make phones too, about 10 years ago. They were relatively slick and some unique features, but they did not get much market share. So, I'm not convinced they'll do a better go the second time.

However, in their new statment Sony talked about connecting the whole family of Sony products. This is exactly like what Apple has done (and has more planned) and Microsoft is doing (connecting Windows, Windows Phone 7, Xbox) etc. so just maybe Sony will pull it off this time.

Two things about Sony phones that I don't look forward to:

1. Proprietary 'closed' formats

2. Typical Sony high prices. I read a recent article pointing out that you should never expect a cheaper Sony laptop - it doesn't fit in with their brand portfolio, place in the market etc.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Fafiq7:
In my opinion Sony can try to connect Playstation with smartphones like Microsoft connect Xbox Live with Windows Phone..

Sent from My Xperia X10 Mini Pro with Flame.E v0.4..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Sprint converts its CDMA network to LTE, plans 'aggressive rollout' to be completed by 2013

We knew more or less that anannouncement of this sort*was coming. Back in July,*Dan Hesse had teased usface-to-face with the promise of a "great story this fall around 4G," and now the time to tell that tale has arrived. At its strategy event today, Sprint finally went public with plans to "simplify its network" by converting its CDMA 1900MHz holdings and LightSquared's 1600MHZ spectrum ("pending FCC approval") to LTE, anindustry favorite. Helping the operator make that transition is the swath of 800MHz spectrum it reclaimed from the, now defunct,*iDEN push-to-talk network*-- which had been a drain on the company's resources. This spectrum, acquired from Nextel, will be phased out by mid-2013 and rolled into LTE. The company plans for a rapid deployment of this new 4G, with the first LTE markets and handsets to hit in mid-2012 with the full rollout mostly completed by 2013. Current subscribers signed up for WiMAX plans won't have to worry as their devices will continue to be supported throughout 2012.Beginning tomorrow, Sprint's consolidating its 4G LTE (including LightSquared), 3G and Direct Connect networks into one single architecture. All the major technical milestones, such as test calls and field integration, have cleared their hurdles and work on over 22,000 cell sites are currently in process. Samsung, Alcatel Lucent and Ericsson have partnered with Sprint to install multimode 3G and 4G base stations to handle the network's future traffic, essential for deploying the multitude of frequencies required by hosted devices. Prospective iPhone 4S users on the network will be able to take advantage of better signal strength and improved voice service as Sprint intends to also offload the latter onto 800MHz.Expect a steep "reduction in roaming costs" and deeper signal penetration throughout the operator's expanding national footprint over the course of the next two years. Naturally, LTE speeds on this new network will be significantly improved over the currently in-use WiMAX, and a planned implementation of WiFi offloading should help to cut congestion by 20 percent. By the end of next year, Sprint aims to have a combined WiMAX/LTE population coverage of 176 million -- with 123 million covered by LTE and 76 million overlapping both. When the network build-out is nearly complete in 2013, the company should have over 250 million blanketed in LTE, far outstripping the stagnant 120 million served by WiMAX.

Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...a-network-to-lte/&category=classic&postPage=1

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
I really don't think Engadget and BGR are getting this right! It's not being converted to LTE - the LTE will be everywhere that 3G is, but its multimode architecture doesn't mean 3G is being replaced! They said they are "committed" to the 3G services long-term, and will be maintaining them. They pointed out how the enterprise customer is important, and demands at least 3-5 year stability.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] craigbailey1986:
Yeah i agree ^^^
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DonutGrunt:
So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?

3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DonutGrunt:
How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?

I have 114 kB/s down right now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
[Citation Needed]

LTE is only, at this point, a speculation on 800mhz. 1900mhz is first, then 1600mhz via LightSquared.

I've seen 1.8mbit and as low as shameful. I'd say 800kbit-1mbit on average. Not bad, not amazing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mdeathike:
I had t-mobile up until this phone and t-mobile i was averaging about 3 to 6mbps down on their 3g on my nexus. I was also utilizing their hsdpa network as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] craigbailey1986:
Lte on 800MHz is different from our phones supporting the 800 mhz. Our only work on the network as far as cdma goes but we don't have a lte chip
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Iczer:
See now I don't know what to do. I was considering the ET4G or the Nexus Prime if it gets announced soon. But I'm wondering If I should stick with my OG EVO until LTE starts to roll out and see what phone comes then? My 3G blows along with 4G only getting like 2.5 down and I'm in Kansas City, right down the road from the Sprint Headquarters. I'm pretty disappointed in these speeds.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
Sprint made it clear that LTE won't be of much use until late 2012, but they will be selling WiMAX phones through 2012 and supporting WiMAX for much longer. Also, watch for speed increases as they continue to increase backhaul as part of Network Vision.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
What's most exciting about all this is the transition from EVDO to 1x advanced :) :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
Thanks for the information. This from Sprint's Community Forum and comments muddy the water for guys like me.

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...blog/2011/09/15/what-is-sprint-network-vision
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
Read the Network Vision thread, and follow me on Twitter.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
Will do. Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] niv3d:
So will we see increases in 3G speeds? If so when should we expect this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
I've answered this about ten times already. ;) Please read the other thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] viper786:
I get REALLLLYYY SLOW 3g speeds in Metro Detroit.. i average 0.1 - 0.3 Mbps...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
3G speeds having nothing to do with the antenna bars you see on your phone. It would make sense that if you have a strong cell signal, you should also have a strong data signal, but welcome to Sprint!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
In the city itself I'll get 1 - 1.5 mbps but outside the city it's the same.

Can't wait for this roll out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LxMxFxD:
So does this mean tomorrow (10/8) sprint turns on the new (well, upgraded) network? That is, should we wee an increase in 3g speed/signal strength tomorrow?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
No... I don't know why people think it's a insta-switch process.

It means that they have been and will continue to expand Sprint Vision/LTE and it will be completed by 2013.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
Kinda weird that they would state "tomorrow" if they've been upgrading the network for awhile now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] antihum4n:
During the press release farid said that unbeknownst to the customers many phones already have this technology in their phones. as he was saying this he was holding an E4gt. he went on to mention that the e4gt has 5 radios in it....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Huh?

They've been working on this since last year.

This is a long process. Its nothing over night.

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/sprint-announces-network-vision-network-evolution-plan.htm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
The way I took it was that they'd start network vision tomorrow, not that it was turned on overnight. :p

But I am excited, while a little disappointed, because I have Sprint stock and the company's got long term investments, and not short term. :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
2G (voice/text) 3G (data/MMS), 4G (highspeed outdoors-only data), Bluetooth and Wifi. Nothing you didn't already know about.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
If Sprint's LTE is as good as Verizons right now, they could really become bigger in the future...if they keep the pricing the way it is by then.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] antihum4n:
If thats the case then what about gps? from what i understand a radio is what actually communicates with parts of the network so 4g evdorev a and evdo1x make sense but bluetooth and wifi are not radios because they do not have the baseband signals for a network. They are just regular chipsets. revb would make sense or even a chip to run at 800mhz..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
If I'm correct, the 800 Mhz band is currently GSM, therefore, incompatible with Sprint's CDMA technology. RevB sounds good, but it's not official 4G and that's what the consumers seem to want. (and the iPhone)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] antihum4n:
They are dropping 1900mhz cdma to 800mhz for better 3g speeds and coverage. if you look at some of the slides some chips have revb on them. plus rev b is as fast as wimax...so again makes sense.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Well, in a more stripped-down technical sense a "radio" Is anything that either emits or receives a radio signal...though in this context a "transceiver"...transmitter/receiver...it might seem a little vague, but, that's how I've always considered all of these "radios"...

...though you make a good point, I hadn't considered the GPS radio...though that is a receiver only thus aGPS ("assisted"...by a data network)...though that makes it no less of a "radio" than any of the others. Perhaps they lumped the 3G and 2G radios together...the wifi/bluetooth "radio" are on the same chip I'm sure...I'm not sure about the specifics of the chipset of this phone but if we look at it like that we have:

Radio #1: 2G/3G

Radio #2: bluetooth/wifi

Radio #3: 4G

Radio #4: GPS(?)

Radio #5: ???

....though our chipset (natively...though likely not given an amp or antenna for transmission) also probably has FM support.....but, again, all of these radios are, technically, frequency modulated in some way.

Depending on how you define "radio" we could come up with anywhere between 4 and 10 "radios" is this phone, not counting any magic beans they may have neglected to mention to us.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LxMxFxD:
The article indicated tomorrow they change everything:

This reads as starting on 10/8, sprint is going from testing to production of their new network.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] antihum4n:
I know lte isnt an option because of the qualcom 6085 radio we have. thats just your run of the 3g or reva chipset which also handles 1x. there is a possibility of two wimax radios at different mhz...bluetooth and wifi are no different than those in laptops. Fm radio is an app and it uses your headset jack as an antenna so no radio needed for that. More than likely there is a chip or two we dont know about. e3d and photon also have "rumored" rev b radios as well. an ota could activate those...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] antihum4n:
They cant start production on lte because the deal is still pending. also switching from 1900 to 800mhz seems more plausible for them to start production on.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LxMxFxD:
Radio #1: 3g

Radio #2: 4g

Radio #3: Wifi

Radio #4: bluetooth

Radio #5: GPS

I'm pretty sure there is no 2g in this phone. I could be wrong but this is why we can't data + talk at the same time. We use 3g for voice calls.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] antihum4n:
2g is 1xevdo, wifi and bluetooth are most of the time bundled together
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
There is def CDMA 2G in here....2G and 3G kinda get wadded up together. Voice and text go over "2G"...it's why my 1st-gen Sprint Samsung whatever it was called (I don't think they gave them names back them) from 1996-1997 still works (and has an unstoppably fantastic signal).

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I'm pretty sure a frequency difference on wimax would be adjustable in software pretty easily....I could be terribly wrong. But then again I guess if that were true then a protocol difference (which could been even easier to implement in software) would also only be an update away--meaning Wimax-to-LTE conversion of handsets. There are likely ASICs implemented here (for efficiency's sake, and rightly so) which prevent such a soft-upgrade path...hmmm....

Okay, I'm just thinking out loud at this point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kivamaki:
I'm probably going to sell this phone, break the contract and move to Verizon. These speeds are unbearable. I can't even browse a single mobile web page. I'm about to move downtown and the sprint service just sucks here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LexLuger82:
10extra bucks should make it happen
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] r3a1ist:
Sprint just told Clearwire to take its Wimax and shove it where the sun don't shine and that it's not making an investment in transforming Clearwire's network to LTE. Sprint may have just struck a death blow to Wimax and Clearwire if they can't raise a billion dollars to outfit their network to LTE. Looks like Sprint will being moving on to establishing LTE with Lightsquared as soon as early 2012.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...sprint-signals-accord-may-end-after-2012.html
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
Well even Sprint said in that article that even with the end of the contract they hope they can work something out but they do not want to dump more money into Clearwire and pretty much give them what they need to get into the LTE market. And that makes sense if Clearwire is going to succeed they need to find a way to get capitol and do the rollout without the help of Sprint who has already helped them in the past.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
:rolleyes:

I've never heard so much whining about $10 in my life.

My homeless friend doesn't even ***** about it.

Obviously the $10 have come in handy.

Sprint Vision alone is worth it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LxMxFxD:
Isn't sprint a 51% shareholder in Clearwire? Maybe that changed recently...

EDIT: According to article posted above, i'm reading that sprint is confident that 4g will stay turned on even if clearwire goes under. Translation: Sprint will keep 4g on thru 2012 and probably into 2013.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] churro7:
You are talking about BYTES not bits right

Thats not bad

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One more time wont hurt

So when!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rfeagan:
Awesome sauce
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I am writing an entire article about what exactly is going on. Websites are completely getting it wrong. K0Nane is right, I talked to 2 Sprint reps and a lightsquare rep and I have finally figured it all out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
I didn't read all this....but am I correct in assuming the E4GT won't be able to take advantage of whatever changes they're making?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rfeagan:
I applaud the effort. But in store sprint reps may not know? In any case, I look forward to reading your write up!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
It will be able to handle everything except the LTE aspect.

By the time LTE is widespread you'll be looking for your next phone anyway.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LexLuger82:
Tell people with ****ty 3G and airwaves machines that bull****
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I live in a 3g area that is bad.

(100 to 300k)

I don't complain because I know its going to fix the issue.

If it bothered me that much, and it doesn't cause I can do everything I want with my phone even at those speeds including stream music, I wouldn't complain to no end on a hacker forum.

I'd leave the carrier.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
You got it wrong. My representatives are actually representatives. Not sale consultants.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LexLuger82:
You're a idiot to stay with a company and paying for a service that is bad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I'm an idiot because I don't buy into the "OMGZ 20MBIT ON A FONEZ 4 2 GB" and pay some outrageous price for it when the speeds I'm getting (as slow as they may be) do everything I need on my phone for a much lower price and limitless?

No, sir. That doesn't make me an idiot.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xcomputerman:
Not exactly everything. One of the new (but less heralded) things Network Vision brings is CDMA 1xAdvanced, which provides 4x the voice capacity leaving much more spectrum in play for EvDO. But phones that support 1xAdvanced won't be arriving until next year (they'll basically be the same phones using Qualcomm's multimode chips).

But there'll still be something for everyone on 3G anyway. The biggest deal is the backhaul upgrades, replacing all those T1 connections with fiber and microwave links, which means more bandwidth for everybody. Also the fact that they're consolidating everything means that all those towers that were once dedicated to iDEN will now provide 3G AND LTE, and there's plenty more spectrum for everyone. Short story is better signal coverage and faster EvDO downloads (still not going to be as fast as HSPA, but it'll be better than what we have now).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LordLugard:
I think it "does" rub you a bit because you keep responding and defending ad-nauseum, which is equally just as tiring to see. You say they keep "whining" and yet you keep giving them cheese with their whine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
?

I'm speaking about the speeds. Nice try on the redirect.

What "does" rub me the wrong way is all the misinformation simply because people don't read.

They just respond on emotion.

Well that and the fact that they sit on the forum and have whined about the same problem over and over and over for almost the entire calender 2011 year instead of just correcting the issue by changing carriers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Do you ever post anything besides one word posts and calling people idiots?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LexLuger82:
Do you do anything more than be a troll and sprint groupie for dirtyshrooms?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mag44:
He is must be must be employed by Sprint any issues that many other people have are not an issue with him and you are a troll for complaining about it. Sprint is an angel, I am guessing that he is related to Dan Hesse. Sprint can do no wrong, if you have a problem with them it is your fault. If you don't like Sprint leave them.

I do love my Sprint service but this person would take a bullet for them,

I am pissed off at Sprint's abandonment of Wimax, they did a half assed implementation on it in the first place decide to charge us extra because "we'll be sucking down their data". I hope that the 3G improvements give me enough speed, but Sprint needs to stop calling their top line phones "4G" or add the 4G unless you live in the right part of a certain city, or until we give up and leave you for another technology, or until Clearmax falls flat. Your 4G phone will really just be a 3G phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Shut the **** up seriously.

How sickeningly pathetic is it that explaining the announcement and fully understanding things instead of just jumping down a companies throat and **** talking needlessly is somehow a bad thing?

I should expect it though.

We've got "this" guy, hey quite literally. http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=94215239

And someone that is still whining about problems and issues discussed for the past year when he could simply leave.

No, it is not "troll"ing to understand things bud.

Sorry about your luck.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mag44:
Lol are you spawn of Dan Hesse? If Dan urinated into a cup and told you it was beer, you would call everyone else a troll for saying otherwise.

You seem to think that issues that other people have with Sprint are because they are stupid or trolls, but I have been with the network longer and an more aware of their problems.

Your quote does not even lead to anything, please repost it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
What in the hell are you talking about?

Besides you, the only person to use the word troll in this thread is LexLuger82.

Who, very clearly, is a troll:

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=94215239

Edit:

I again stand by what I just said. Didn't use the word troll is this thread.

The link is to his posts which are 90% "this" "lmao" "bump" "this"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mag44:
I am talking about your blind faith in Sprint. Which was pointed out by other people who are not me. Anyway as I said earlier you seem to dismiss anyone who complains about Sprint as a troll (you have used this term in other posts, not this one) who doesn't know what they are talking about but I have apparently been on the network longer than you know more about Sprint's in and outs.

You defend Sprint like you have some financial interest in the company. I do prefer Sprint over Att, Verizon, and T-Mobile do not blindly defend them because I know that they all have flaws.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I don't have blind faith in anything.

You are making erroneous claims based on nothing.

You don't know what I know.

So you have no right to make that claim.

If I had blind faith then I would encourage everyone to stick to Sprint no matter what.

Do I? Never. Not once.

The only thing I do defend against is stealing, fraud and ignorance.

I'm done fueling your ****.

Continue to whine about things instead of taking action all you want.

I wont see it any further.

/ignore
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mag44:
This is funny, you continue to support my (and others) claims with your posts and then try to deny it. You are just a joke I have not made any erroneous claims in my posts. You got called out by another poster who said the SAME thing so it is not just me.

I have tried to start a serious conversion on the future of WIMAX on multiple treads but you continually try to call me out for hating Sprint and tell me to leave, which is not a very good or a valid talking point.

And I make my claims based of your responses to me. I have nothing else to go by so I'll work with what I have.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
What in the world are you talking about?

Like really, do you even know?

You wrote literally an entire book in the other thread about how much it upsets you that Sprint is doing what they're doing...but then say you're "just trying to have a discussion" and "aren't that upset"?

Really? Because it certainly seems like you're upset. Very upset.

Otherwise we wouldn't have a book to read about nothing but the same complaints.

You're unhappy, clearly, so start looking at other carriers.

Yes Sprint handled the Wimax situation badly, we know that.

Clearwire pretty much folded (if not for Sprint) and that was bad luck for them.

Especially with the rest of the industry embracing LTE.

So what's your point?

You want us to admit they made an error?

We agree.

So what?