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[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
I know that feeling, the thing is, I can't say no to stuff friends ask so I don't end up with lots of free time.

After the G3RM site I'm going to take a break (vacation is coming for me, just one week) and then I'll try messing around to see if I can create a nice simple UI (:

My Archos 43 also has the ability to boot Debian, but the desktop UI is just annoying on a screen smaller then at least 7 inches, so if this actually works I can also use the UI for that device :P

Good luck with getting it to work!

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Thanks. Right now I want to cut as much out of Android so I can free up some RAM for Debian. I think it's running slow because Android is nicking all the RAM.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] pator5:
Impressive!! Good Luck With Your Work :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] djmaxis:
Hillbeast maybe can You give us some info how to install and run debian on our G3 to test it a little? can you upload your files, I mean install.sh, boototheros etc? It will be nice to try it :D
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Once I have finished fiddling with it I will package it up. It's pretty massive.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] D@rekills4:
You sir win at everything you do.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Here is the list of things I need to get going:

FIMG

Support for controlling the WiFi (not needing Android)

Controlling the modem

Sound

Touchpanel

X11 -> Screen w/o VNC

Boot directly to Debian

Those are the main things. I need to fiddle with the WiFi to see if it will connect. I've grabbed the firmware and settings and such and I have wpa_supplicant and wifitools, so it should have everything it needs.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
I can look up how they got wifi working for my Archos?

They also had problems at first, but got it working (eventually..)

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Well I think I know what I need to do, I just need to mess around with the commands to get it working. But sure find out what they did.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
I think I found their solution, don't really know if this could be of any help, but they also went messing around with the “wpa_supplicant.conf” file.

Link

And afterwards, to also enable WEP networks (first version only covered WPA) can be found here.

Well, I'm going to do some research in creating your own window manager based on X11 :p

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] JoHnNy08PL:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.galoula.LinuxInstall

It works too, and don't need PC ;)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
Yes, but what Hillbeast wants is to not need any android interaction at all.

So basically something like the multiboot of G3MOD, but then with debian (no android in the background).

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I recieved the message :P

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] JoHnNy08PL:
Umm, yeah. Had just a fast-look at this topic ;)

Soo... you can use my app to test linux@phone, and then(when hillbeast will complete this project) make dualboot.

It will be awesome, to have full linux without support of android, but drivers... that's the problem.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Yes, this is just another method for putting it behind Android. This is what I have done, but that's only so far. I want to expand it completely to become a self contained system.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Kingzak34:
Good Luck ! Love what you're doing :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Shree_Jamdar:
HI

Edited: I think the debian/ubuntu menus should be bigger, that is the main thing which is frustrating.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Once I have it working properly, I will figure out ways to make the UI easier to use on a touchscreen.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Shree_Jamdar:
How is the progress man.? I was going to suggest something, im not a dev or anything, but what if the android is all stripped down , like a bare-bones system, every useless app/service removed, barely to keep the system functional. that way even if this thing runs on top of android, it will perfom nicely. And there must be a way to run vnc in the startup itself, and automatically connect local host. That way the phone boots directly to linux!

Man i can just imagine, this thing fully functional with linux bootanimation!!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I haven't touched it in a few days, but that is what I was thinking. The main performance issue arises from the fact that nothing has hardware acceleration, it is all running on the CPU, and this really puts a strain on it. I did remove almost every app from Android and that helped a little but not much.

I'm going to have to figure out how to get X11 to output to the screen because it's just too slow without.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I got it outputting to the screen. It's garbage it's showing, but it's output nevertheless. Just need to find the correct settings for our CPU/screen.

Also note that there is no Android running, this is just Debian here.

EDIT: Got it working now. Now I just need to add the touchpanel support...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Better screenshot now that it's working:
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] m1trand1r:
wow!! awesome!! like it allready....

any ETA?....just kidding...:)

Sent from my hybrid sg3

multibooted

Kyrillos' 8.0 powered by

g3mod 2.0 OC
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Shree_Jamdar:
No!!! that is mad crazy!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Screen is working, touchscreen is being detected, but it's sending data in a format X11 doesn't like. Even trying touchscreen libs didn't help, so I may have to see if there are any Android libs that would work with it.

I lack the effort to do it tonight. I want to do this as a spare time thing.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Panos_dm:
Will it be possible to install apks, use the market and do everything we do in android or will it be a pure Linux installation?

sent from my CM7 nokia 3210
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] mankokoma:
Hey man, that's really amazing to see a LXDE screen on our device... really looking forward to waste my time on this and getting killed by my wife :rolleyes:
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] TearsDontFalls:
We can run all linux stuff, including mono. Net, so we can run. Net programs on our g3?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I'm not sure. It would require an Android emulator or at least some part of the dalvikvm to be running for it to work. I suppose down the track once everything is running I could try it, but it's not a priority.

As long as the program has been compiled into ARM, then yes, it'll work. If not then you can cross compile it.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] TearsDontFalls:
Thank you hillbeast, are there any news from the project? Is this a 240x400 screen or an emulated higher resolution screen?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Native 240x400. I want to make ti work before adding a larger virtual screen.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] koast:
may be that can be useful

http://forum.samdroid.net/f57/ubuntu-cyanogenmod-howto-2862/
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] cdesai:
This is doing it via vnc which is easy, he is trying to get it working natively, without booting into android
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I've already got it working like that. That was the easy part. Now I need to get it working on its own.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
One thing I just realised that can be done (for those of you who don't think a full desktop OS on a phone is going to be usable), just imagine Meego on our phone. That is a thoroughly excellent mobile OS, and it is based upon Debian as well (at least I think it is as Maemo is).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] JeroenGijselaar:
If you port MeeGo on our phone... YOU ARE GOD!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] mohnishgs:
^^

+1

android and meego on a single phone will be epic!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
Agreed, MeeGo would be quite awesome.

I once tried messing around with it on my Archos 43.

I could compile and such, but stupid Archos went no and decided to wipe everything..

But if you need any help with this, I would be gald, this way I could only enhance my programming skills and get only better.

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Thanks. Right now I really want to get this touchscreen working. I left my phone for like an hour to do an apt-get upgrade to Squeeze so hopefully with the latest Debian I can get this all working. Don't ask why I was using Lenny...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Pinak.ahuja:
check this out

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/hildon-desktop
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Looks interesting. Will give it a go when I have X11 working better.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] vivekmishra:
Exactly, now you are

doing the stuff that a common user can enjoy. Meego on or device will be uber cool. My vote- go for Meego. Best of luck :D
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=308

Someone on the MeeGo forums went messing around with just the UI in Debian/Ubuntu.

In post #3 he explains more or less how he did it.

I think I'm going to install my VM's again.. (oh my poor 3GB of RAM..)

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] cdesai:
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM

One guy has got some progress on Galaxy Tab. but he has dropped the project since long
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
Yeah, I know of that.

He even came to the Archos gen8 forum to brag about it and not help..

But maybe we could get some help if we asked him nicely (:

Right now installing Debain to mess around with getting the UI working on debian :P

Dympy.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Today I want to test my battery life a little, and once it's drained, I will work on getting the touchscreen working in Debian. Once that is going, I will get all the other random hardware going and will work on Meego.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Shree_Jamdar:
Hi

You are doing good progress on debian, will you complete it or focus on meego now? I mean, is Meego easier to port compared to debian or you just curious how it operates.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Smonic:
I think you should work on perfecting one of your projects instead of working on several different projects simultaniously. It would be a lot more beneficial for the g3 community. Just my opinions. I love all your work. Keep it up!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Debian will be completed, then Meego.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dympy:
I went messing but couldn't get it to work.

Tomorrow is my do-nothing-day, because of turning 19, and then I'm going to try and get the Maemo UI working.

For those not knowing what it is, Maemo is a debian distribution specially made for some nokia phones, the most known phone with that distribution is the N900.

Dympy.

EDIT: Hmm, found some packages with the MeeGo TouchFramework, this could be interesting..
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I'm referring to a bit of Meego stuff trying to get the touchscreen working because apparently someone has the touchscreen controller from our phone working in Meego (Atmel MXT224)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] mrn123:
First of all hats off for trying to port debian onto SG3.

Would be great if you could share some recent updates on this project!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Sorry I've been busy working on G3MOD for the last while, so no progress to speak about.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Digibonez:
Don't want to bug u.. but do you plan to continue this project pls?

Send from my Samsung GT-5800.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Right now I'm putting it on hold as it is more of an experiment more than anything. I will be now concentrating my efforts on ICS. G3MOD has pretty much reached the limit of what can be done on our phone. Only bugfixes can really come from there unless someone comes up with clever new ideas. I have one or two more ideas but I need to figure out how to implement them correctly.

So basically all my projects will be on hold until ICS can reach the level CM7 is at. I am hoping marcellusbe can help provide some pointers.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] unreal3000:
hillbeast, are u still working or planning to work on usb otg? it one feature that im realy looking forward too..

?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Well I couldn't figure out what needed to be done to make it work. I couldn't tell if I needed to disable something or switch a mode or if my USB OTG adapter wasn't working. I really couldn't figure out what was going on so I put it aside until I could have an epiphany.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] unreal3000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=709135&highlight=USB+Host

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1233072

2 links to projects for usb otg for galaxy s and galaxy tab.

both do not have otg enabled by default.

according to samsung our soc supports usb otg.

in the galaxy tab link a user says that the samsung usb otg hardware is similar on its devices and that it could be ported to other samsung devices.

in our menuconfig also we have option to enable usb otgin kernel.

i strongly suggest u go through all 30 pages of the galaxy s thread. some important info on enabling otg.

hopfully this will help u start ?? :P

il try to help where i can...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I looked through other guides but it's no help. It's for another chipset.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] unreal3000:
yeah i figured......if we just had the god damn datasheets and docs of the soc everything would be so much easier........
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] bane21:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1390351

hier is an app to get Ubunto to arm devices - I know its not debian but its linux. Will this work on our phone (if overclocked)? I don't trust myself with trying right now as I will go on vacation in two days and I need a working phone :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] cdesai:
Should work, if u follow the instructions proprely, as it isnt installing it natively, but in a chrooted environment
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] bane21:
do we have a Kernel with Loop device support?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I want to get Debian running natively, but I have put this project on hold for a while until I get a few more important things dealt with.

Yes. They should all have support I believe. I think it was in the Samsung.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] cdesai:
I think G3MOD does support, not sure, no harm in trying it yourself
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] stubborn_d0nkey:
This thread popped into my head while I was installing arch (with no browser to browse with while waiting I had to think of something :P), and I was wondering how much control do we have over our phones boot sequence? Can we "hijack" it before zygote starts (and brings up all the android/java stuff)?

From my lil theoretical knowledge of android's boot sequence, all the linux stuff (device drivers included, ofc) gets loaded before zygote and zygote proceeds to load the the java layer. If we can hijack the boot sequence before zygote starts I'm thinking that there is some hope for booting into debian without starting android.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] cdesai:
Well yes we can, but then we won't have most of the stuff working as the drivers are compiled for android and not a linux distro

After the kernel is loaded, init execs init.rc, which starts zygote

We can modify the initramfs so that it doesnt start zygote, and make it boot into the linux distro we have on our sd, something like this would be very useful with the dual boot kernel by apollo5801.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] stubborn_d0nkey:
So we have enough control over the boot sequence (I never payed too much attention to that level of dev stuff here). This seems like it could be a fun (hobby) project for me, and even if I dont produce any noticeable results, at least it'll be a learning experience.

Anyways, thanks for the info!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Our phones kernel is completely open source meaning we can change whatever the heck we like with it. If you want a more simplified boot to go from (init.rc), take a look at the recovery.rc. That has a lot of the rubbish taken out of it. I think in Kyorakernel I cleaned it up to reduce space, but I can't remember if I ever committed that change.

If you wish to carry on where I left off then be my guest. I don't think this will work with the Android kernel though (at least not without modifications). The touchscreen for example doesn't output in a format compatible with any of the libraries I tried using for X11. I didn't have the effort to debug it.

Also I think something is odd with the way the phone handles ALSA because I would either get garbage coming through or it would kernel panic (depending on what program was used to playback). I know ALSA mixer works fine though.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] stubborn_d0nkey:
Thanks for the info, its good know where you had problems.

Yeah, I'm almost definitely going to jump into this tomorrow, though I'm not gonna really gonna approach this as a serious dev project, but more as something fun and as a learning experience

I do have a question for you:

What libraries did you try for X11 (if you remember)?

The phone having problems with ALSA seems to me like the universe telling me to do this :D Why?

Well, because, like I said, I thought of this thread while installing arch, and while installing arch I used ALSA for sound and my laptop also doesn't play nice with it (speakers don't work :P). If nothing, it seems like an interesting coincidence to me
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
I really can't remember. It was so long ago but they were a few that were in the Debian aptitude repository. I was too lazy to compile my own libraries from the source codes.

I know I used evtouch and tslib, and I'm pretty sure the configuration was correct. I sat there for like hours on end trying every possible combination of modes.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hirencj:
Desperately waiting hope will get it soon working on my Phone :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Ava.tar:
This thread is very interesting. It also make my brain feel like mush! :D
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hillbeast:
Well I am not working on this anymore as I have dedicated my development onto other (in my opinion important) functions for the Galaxy 3, namely MTD.

Sorry to disappoint you.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] simbawimba:
as cool as this project is, reading the post you made about all the improvements a new kernel could make to the phone definitely makes me think you're working on the right project :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] krisando:
I'm really glad somebodies been doing this. Been wanting Debian on my phone soon after getting it.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hirencj:
we are dissapointed bro...:( :eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bds120:
Tried to get from ACS but cannot get on their site. 500 server error

Completely stuck right now. I need the completely stock kernal. Trying to completely unroot

PLEASE CLOSE...wrong place
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SpartanVissepo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17976341

Its working
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Why in the development section? Please read the rules next time.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k0nane:
Why no, I don't. But I do have RUSSIAN NYAN CAT.

[youtube]mRrAc7NPtFc&autoplay=1[/youtube]

Every spam thread means 15 more minutes of this. Please, think of your fellow users. Don't make me post this again.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bds120:
I did read the rules. I had a few tabs open when I made the thread so did you see how fast I said edit and wrong section. Yea...then STFU. Are you a moderator, guess you never made a mistake huh.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Was I an asshole to u? No. I said please read the rules of where to post at. Some people really don't know. I thought I was nice but u wanna act all big and tell me to stfu. Your cool.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] vimjam:
hi frnz i've purchased a XPERIA NEO V yesterday actually it is my first SE phone so i would like to know few details about SE phones

1.are the bootloaders locked like HTC phones ?(prev phone HTC Wildfire)

found answer : YES

2.Do SE phones get bricked ,if YES is there any way to unbrick ? (i've never heard a HTC phone bricking)

found answer : YES

3.are there any development teams/websites for SE to root/unlock a SE device ?(for htc UNREVOKED.com = rooting , ALPHAREV/REVOLUTIONARY = security-off)

found answer : FreeXperia team
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] SXUsr:
Have a browse of your section, all that information can be found by browsing, and been answered more than once. ;-)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] armando101:
Is it out?

Is Xperia NEO V is out?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] vimjam:
Yes NEO V is available(India) & it is a splendid phone
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] armando101:
Only in India?

So Xperia neo V is released only in India? (Like pre-order or something)

Or it's completly out?

I can't find anything about it, only my local SE website shows that it's out (NEW)

I can't find any reviews/first impressions and/or where to buy it...

Thanks and sorry for my bad English :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] vimjam:
no i did'nt pre order it i got it from a local store....

REVIEWS can be found at this link http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_neo_v-reviews-4122.php

I feel this this phone has good battery (almost 2days full use) , camera is decent too

just waiting for freexperia to port cm7 for neo v :P

of the most can anyone answer my questions posted in post 1 ?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] taaviu:
No way......!!! :)

But it depends what you mean "full use" ;)

For me its 3G all day, music full power and browsing, surfing, etc :)

And 10h is best what i can with 1500mh battery.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] vimjam:
1. 2hrs TALK (3G,AIRTEL)

2. 2hrs NET( data transmission always On)

3. 1.5hrs MUSIC

4. MAX BRIGHTNESS + AUTO SYNC ON

5. ANDROID APPS DOWNLOAD+UPDATE(android market)

6. XPERIA FACEBOOK INTEGRATION

7. video recording (approx 15min)

8. lil gaming
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nickmccrory@hotmail.com:
I have tried on two different windows computers to root my E4GT using odin. I have Kies installed and have even tried reinstalling the drivers!

Any help appreciated!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Try rebooting the computer. Use a different cable. The stock ones suck. EDIT just found this www.multiupload.com/NCMZYDXGO0

Try this if u still can't get it to connect. These are the epic touch drivers. Got these from crawrj.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
Why don' you just call Acer..?
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
Have you tried to hold.the reset pin next to the USB port in.let it reinstall the os rom

Maybe there is a software issue.
[Acer Iconia A500] glunteer:
...............
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heelfan71:
I just picked up the phone today. How do I find out what firmware the phone has? Also, some of these guides have a "home" button. Does the ATT / Tmobile version have a home button?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KayvinM:
To find the firmware version you can go to settings-->about phone and check under "build number". The at&t/sprint/Tmobile variants have a capacitive home button but only the European version has a physical home button.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heelfan71:
Thanks, I have rooted several other android phones (epic 4g, incredible, thunderbolt) but I am confused on this one. My build number is "gingerbread.eg30" I am not sure what insecure kernel I need to use. I have odin and super one click downloaded, just was not sure about what kernel
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KayvinM:
Eg30 is the sprint variant, you will have to check here. There is a specific section for it as none of the rooting procedures/kernels for the 19100 will work.