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[Epic 4G General] gface2k:
Its funny I came across this thread which reminded me of last years Froyo BS. I'm highly disappointed with how Samsung has treated the Galaxy S line of SMART phones. Its almost as if they thought they were selling us a device that contain the only version of the OS it will ever run. Like it was "end of life" on day one.

Your telling me that a company that came up with the best phone since the iPhone (i hate apple but I must respect their innovation) can't figure out how to fix some thing as simple as a "skipping keyboard press", poor LCD brightness algorithm, and a horrific battery life?! All these problems have been fixed by a bunch of phone enthusiasts that have no access to the secrets of the actual hardware.

And here I though I was buying into an OS that inherited the "open source" from the roots it comes from, Linux! Post the dam source for the hardware and let the community take over, lazy bunch of $#!+ heads.
[Epic 4G General] Tbtltdts:
Ive found eg22 to be the best build so far. Ive been working on custom drivers to allow tv out on the epic. However since everyone has kinda abandoned the project im on my own :-\ using the micro usb to hdmi cable purchased from samsung directly. Will continue to work on it in my spare time.
[Epic 4G General] schnowdapowda:
Oh dude you shouldn't have said anything about that in a flame thread. Loll :D

Cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G General] :
I've waited for a while for it. I was even considering trading my epic 4g for a Nexus 4g. I really dig the Epic 4g, but I canceled my service yesterday cause I was tired of paying so much for ****ty reception (where I live, at least,) and lack of updates. I love the phone, but man, Samsung/Sprint are slacking it.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Nope. I honestly don't see what I would gain with GB that I don't already have. Sprint network sucks, but GB can't fix that. I have easy root, wireless hotspot, hardware KB that skips keys but still pretty good, great screen, now video Skype, a great stable rom in SFR - it does everything I need it to do. I run CM7 on my Nook Color and don't see what the big deal is over Froyo.
[Epic 4G General] 3VilStv:
This is so true. :-)
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Where all da white women at?
[Epic 4G General] offtohavasu:
How many times do I have to tell you to wash your hands after a cross burnin'?!
[Epic 4G General] rygran87:
From Samsprint, the difference between FroYo and Gingerbread isn't entirely noticeable. If you ran AOSP FroYo and then AOSP Gingerbread the difference may be more visible. The biggest difference other than aesthetics (screen off animation and different theme) is that Gingerbread supports hardware acceleration where FroYo does not. At least that is my understanding. Also it comes with an updated kernel version. Either way, CM7 development will hopefully benefit from the release of official kernel source code.
[Epic 4G General] metalblaster:
Thats just wishful thinking on a level of idiocy. With EoL coming up for the epic 4g, we will be lucky to get even a lackluster gingerbread update much less real source with real drivers to allow for CM7 or CM8 when it comes, much less ICS. Even though our hardware more than meets the requirements for ICS we will never see a single update for it.

My money is on either never seeing gingerbread on the epic or getting a horribly broken release that right before EoL so they have no "obligation" to fix anything.

I've been thinking about it for a while, why companies take google's operating system and pollute it with such garbage like Touchwiz or Blurr, and why Google even allows for them to do so. Wouldn't it make more sense to make a universal driver database that would exist as opensource software such that they could push out updates of android vanilla as soon as they are produced? It works for real linux, I don't understand why these companies insist on injecting that bull**** into their software. If the time line of froyo was to fit the same as gingerbread, we wont see gingerbread until ICS has been released and updated at least for 2 months.

Hell, at the rate people are Abandoning this phone left and right for Nexus phones and even SGS2 phones (ill never understand why some one would by the epic 2 after this horrible piece of junk.) by the time they do decide that it would be a good idea to release a real Gingerbread there will be all of 10 people on this phone still, I mean havent you noticed that the forums for the epic, especially on the dev side have become almost a ghost town? After the Epic Touch dropped, the amount of EH17 roms that were being updated and maintained dropped to a count of about 1. There is a reason for that.

Funny note, I actually replaced my Epic the other day, (they refused to give me another handset in exchange but that's another story.) I joked with the sprint employee about how the 1 year old phone was running off of 1.5 year old software and he laughed and said you will be waiting a long time for any new updates.
[Epic 4G General] Ceelos09:
Maybe this is just wishful thinking but, the Samsung Stratosphere should be released soon, along with source, etc. The Stratosphere is the closest sibling to the Epic within the Galaxy S family, so in theory, we should be able to port over some ROM's and/or Kernels, not to mention use some of their source, so there may be some hope for us beyond GB since they have to support the Stratosphere for the required 18 months by Google now. But again, this is just my theory and wishful thinking, so take it with a grain of salt.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
There will be Gingerbread. They just don't want to have to make any more bug fixes after that so want it right. Gotta be a good reason why none of the US Galaxy S phones have Gingerbread. Most of them are not on EOL so for those that think that the Epic is the only phone in the world in the Galaxy S series not on GB, open your eyes...or better yet your Google search engine! Tired of the whining...we won't get GB because Epic is EOL...BS!!!!!! As for source code, AOSP GPL requires source to be released, not driver source though.
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
Why are people judging this phone by the updates or lack of? People are calling this phone a pos because it got updates late. This phone beat the Evo, even though the Evo got more air time. People have switched to this phone from numerous others. Say what you like about Sprint or Samsung but this is an incredible phone with or without gingerbread. So many things it can do others released at the same time can't.

Sent from my un-rooted Samsung Epic 4G with XDA Premium
[Epic 4G General] garyf:
Wait, do you have your front camera working with Skype? Which rom and which version of Skype?
[Epic 4G General] moisaal:
Samsung drove me crazy while i had the Epic 4g...It took ages for them to drop froyo and when they did they pulled it bc it wasnt properly tested. I happened to drop it in a lake and it plunged to the bottom (with no insurance) but it was a blessing in disguise , got an HTC Hero which i thought was obsolete ( still is in terms of harware) but our development team are geniuses. They've revitalized the HERO and im running 2.3.7 and its comparable in speed to my moms stock epic . go figure
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Cool story bro. Our Epic devs have also gotten our phone on par in speeds with a stock evo 3d.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Any GB leak and released version of Skype. Mine works pretty good.
[Epic 4G General] Migital Warfare:
Your timeline is way off. I didn't even buy my Epic until October 4th of last year, which had Eclair installed, and the first froyo leak wasn't until after Christmas.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Froyo SRF 1.2, genocide 2.0 kernel. Skype v 2.5.0.138 (I think the latest), the only problem is that front camera video is in landscape.
[Epic 4G General] caspertodd:
I call B.S.
[Epic 4G General] rygran87:
The first leak I remember was in October actually. Noobnl held off leaking it and got flamed very badly even though it allegedly bricked some Epics. The best leak was actually DK28 which was put out in early December IIRC.

EDIT: I looked pretty far back and the earliest FroYo leak I found was DK05. Still early November leak. After that came DK17,DK18 and then DK28 which lasted forever!
[Epic 4G General] Fire n mage:
Lol i'd really like to know what you're basing this on.
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Its probably a renamed 2.3.5. Some devs are doing that. I wasn't aware of many other phones having 2.3.7 other than Nexus
[Epic 4G General] sauron0101:
The poster's anger probably prevents him/her from seeing things objectively. A HTC Hero, faster than an Epic? :p Samsung's coding may suck, but even then, the Epic will run applications and things faster than a Hero.

And this is coming from a person who used to use a GSM version of the HTC Hero before upgrading to this phone.

I should mention that it is possible for a high end phone to lag (the Atrix with it's Tegra 2 is a good example) due to coding. But when you run Cyanogenmod on both (at least the beta on the Epic), it's pretty clear which phone is faster.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
I had a Hero before this, and upgraded the day I could. I was sold on android, but the hero wasn't ready for prime time.

The devs did do a lot with it, and probably much more in the year since, but they're not wizards, and there's only so many clock cycles you can squeeze from a turd.
[Epic 4G General] brian0wens:
Too much hardware to support

The real problem is consumerism, which has brought about too many versions of near identical hardware to support. If you want this to stop, quit making the production of all these different phones profitable for the manufacturers. Buy your phone and don't upgrade. Force them to fix the problems with their phones BEFORE getting your next purchase. This is key to Apple's success, they focus on a single product and get it right. Unlike all the other phone manufacturers that just keep slinging out numerous different phones knowing the lemmings will buy them without ever demanding quality.
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
That's called fragmentation.
[Epic 4G General] brian0wens:
Yes, but fragmentation is the result of consumerism. Without people lining up to buy new phones (likely to escape the problems of their old phones) there would be a smaller market (and therefore less incentive) for manufacturers to produce dozens of different phones, and subsequently the fragmentation you speak of.

Personally, I think the Epic must suffer from terminal hardware design problems, evidenced by their inability to get the thing stable...something like the Intel Pentium floating point processing error in the mid 1990s. Remember that? To my knowledge that was the LAST time any major electronics manufacturer came out and admitted fault. You can't just design crap at the silicon level and expect software developers to smooth over the fractures.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
Look at your calendar - there are 31 days in October, and we're on the 6th... Just saying...

Sammy still has 25 days to meet this deadline that was never officially announced, promised or guaranteed, so what are you *****ing about?

And another user complained about how long froyo took, then complained about how many bugs were present - in the same post! Yeah, if they had released it sooner, THAT would have fixed the bugs...
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
Right, nothing would drive innovation, and the spread of android, like not buying it.

Yes, apple "perfects" one device before they move on. You also get one device for a year, which is an eternity in phones.

Yes, android is harder to wrangle with 10,000 different configurations, each one a pseudo experiment of what we're all looking for the next time, but I'll take all those options over the "options" you have for an iPhone which consist entirely of how much you're willing to overpay for storage, and, if you're lucky, white or black.

Are you still rocking win 3.11 on the first computer you ever bought because HP and Microsoft should just "perfect" that setup, rather than actually making better ones?

Edit: Just like computers, this will settle down in time. Remember that period of time where like every 2 weeks the computer in the Best Buy flyer was twice as good as the one a month before? Then that was 2 months, then 3, then 6. We're in that period in with phones. Eventually we'll hit a point where there's no real world difference between the Dual core 2.6 and a Dual Core 2.8, and they'll all have enough ram, as good a camera as point and shoots, and so on, and there will be less of a reason to upgrade as fast as you possibly can. As it stands, our old phones probably weren't perfect, but you can't ignore the fact that there's some pretty large leaps in the phones, and pretend we're upgrading just to not have the old phone.

You're also ignoring that, to a certain extent, the beauty of android is that we don't need the manufacturer to "perfect" the phone. That's what XDA is for.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Hey I love my Epic...light years away from the Rant, Instinct or even Palm Pre that I had. When it is time to upgrade again I assume that quad core 2.6Ghz Galaxy IV will be light years from this.
[Epic 4G General] brian0wens:
I never said don't buy Android, I said don't keep buying Android as a means of resolving flaws with your existing Android phone. Hold these manufacturers responsible for fixing their products by not continuing to buy new phones with new bugs. Few if any of these phones are ever even close to perfected, or even made reliable because there are always new phones to support and new money to make from them. If we don't demand better quality with our purchasing power we will not get it.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
The more phones they sell which means more profit which means more devs which means if they don't provide a quality phone then they will lose profit kinda like where apple is at with the iphone 4s they are about to sink like a rock
[Epic 4G General] Sim2:
You poor bastards.

I can't believe they still haven't released it. Glad I swapped mine for a Nexus when I had the chance. Never again will I buy a non-Google phone.
[Epic 4G General] twyster:
I thought about swapping for a Nexus, but then my wife got one. The software upgrade is nice. However, with SRF 1.2 and genocide I feel like this phone is just as smooth and useful, and I like the hardware better with this one (specifically the camera, which is very important to me.) I just don't think there's enough of a difference between the Nexus and Epic to justify getting a Nexus, despite the delays in software upgrade. I'll just wait a while. I might hold off until I return from my next deployment. Perhaps there will be some quad cores coming out next fall.
[Epic 4G General] MikeyLee:
It's just like everything else Samsung has done. I see a pattern.

Samsung Instinct, supposedly "the iPhone killer" as Sprint advertised it. Phone came out, no app development and no firmware updates. Why? Because the Moment came out. Samsung's supposed flagship phone. Worked great for a while then needed updates. Nothing significant ever came. Why? The Epic was now available. Sprint advertised it shipping with 2.2 (at least that's what they told me when I bought mine) but did it? nope, that took almost a year to get. Now they have phones shipping with GB and tab with Honeycomb and soon a phone with Ice Cream Sandwich. Why would they be worried about us and our Epic's when nobody is buying them because there are newer and better phones out there. They dont have to impress us, just the people that are shopping for newer phones. Typical Samsung. I'm about ready to melt my phone down and ship it to their corporate headquarters with a big fat FU note inside.
[Epic 4G General] Sir Alphonse:
Which is why I would never buy a nonnexus samsung phone, again. Screw the Epic Touch 4G
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
There is just so many things that attract me to the Prime: looks, specs, pure vanilla Android. Since it being a Nexus, it WILL get the latest and greatest OS. No more "when will blah blah OS be finally pushed to our phone."
[Epic 4G General] datasee:
The argument from earlier is actually right from a biz stanpoint

if you already have the phone and they want you to buy anothe, theres no incentive to maintain the current epic phone

in fact it may be true that to the typical consumer that this phone on new software may run about the same as a newer and more expensive model

but that would cut into their profits
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
damn I am hungry now

After reading that a magic oreo is looking for the gingerbread!! Its like sweet treat smack down for the sweet treat title of the world
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
I enjoy the rants and the "hear hears" despite the fact that you basically falsify your premise by ranting about it.

All you people saying you'll never buy ____ again...that's their incentive to keep you happy, same as any other business.

Every update on every phone takes longer than it "should". Pissing off your customers for fun and profit doesn't actually work as a business model. Does samsung probably prioritize the next great thing over their old phones? Probably, but it's not like they have 1 developer.

Also "we're" as much to blame as anyone for the process. Many of us run roms here, and give a pass on 4g, data, or even the phone not working, let alone stability issues, so long as it means running the latest and greatest. (Everyone running a GB rom has their phone reboot 4-5 times a day.) Then, when the official updates come, sh*t hits the fan when someone finds out the calendar saves a task wrong if you save it at the exact second you cross the international date line on tuesdays. That gets back to some higher ups, and they decide the next go around needs more/longer testing. Then the process death spirals, because the longer it takes, the more perfect us users expect it to be, and the less forgiving people are. In reality they should go with smaller faster updates, and everyone needs to realize perfection is a pipe dream.

HTC users swore they'll never buy HTC again, Samsung users swear off Samsung. Sprint customers were sick of being "teased" with [not actually promised/stated] dates coming and going, and wished Sprint just stayed tight lipped like Verizon. Verizon customers complained about the tight lipped approach, and wish they "at least gave them SOME idea" like Sprint.

Everyone chill. Samsung has the same incentive to keep us happy as Target, McDonalds, and Ford do after they "get our money."
[Epic 4G General] kenrico:
My favorite was that after SamsunGate last year, where it was the lead story of every Android news and forum nationwide , the comparison between HTC Motorola LG and Samsung timely android updates - and it only showed a single updated Samsung phone. After that, things moved pretty quick - course the domestic big four was last and the binged fascinate guys were worse off .

We'll see how it fares with SGII releases - but Eighteen monthes support means that even if there is a solid kernal for Stratosphere and the Tmobiles Galaxy S 4G will get ICS , but all others will not - just from liability, you don't do a carrier update unless you have to . Even with solid OTA updates from mfg and carrier - they get pulled becuase of unforseen difficulty ie: Epic & Fascinate Froyo , Optimus S GB ect .

My real thought is that as an Epic ( and the Transform more so) owner feel 'disenfranchised' because things were promised by the carrier that were not followed through on - afterwords it was just finger pointing. Now if a carrier 'misstates' something , it is quickly retracted. Don't know if GB was within Eighteen monthes of Epic release, but will feel shortchanged because of the FFC funtionality with gTalk for 2.34 . Nexus S from same carrier has almost identical features and all is working with NFC to boot.

Guess things could be worse, wasn't it ATT that had to remove some bloatware in the Froyo update because there wasn't enough free RAM to function ?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Since the Epic has only been around for 13 months, then yes GB is within the 18 months. Sprint never promised Gingerbread. It was Samsung that tweeted all Galaxy S phones were getting Gingerbread. And based on the 6 months it took to get Froyo from when Samsung released it in Europe, I am guessing we should see GB at the end of the month, exactly when I predicted when they first said they were releasing it.
[Epic 4G General] bullinthechinashop:
Wouldn't it really be funny if we finally got Gingerbread & installed it and didn't notice any difference?

I was initially pissed that Samsung was taking so long to release 2.3 but in all honesty the phone works fine with 2.2. It's a lot faster than my Captivate. Even with a custom ROM on the Captivate and the file system converted to ext4 the Epic just plain smokes it. It's a lot smoother and it responds a lot faster.

Would 2.3 really make that muck of a difference?

Also isn't there a newer version of TochWiz than what's on our phones? Maybe the delay is to port the new TouchWiz to our phones at the same time as Gingerbread?
[Epic 4G General] GituSum:
I guess samsung figured we would have it by october 8th. If you search the market for samsung desk home there is an app for gingerbread updated on the 8th. Haha

GituSum Epic
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
At this point I could careless about gingerbread for this phone. Samsung never was to interested in supporting this phone. The keyboard is the main reason I still have this phone.
[Epic 4G General] themow:
im with this guy
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
I just searched that and now I curious. Is Sprint holding the update? I doubt Samsung would release an official app for Epic with GB if it wasn't happening, also if it was far from ready.

Sent from my un-rooted Samsung Epic 4G with XDA Premium
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
Get a Nexus... you won't look back. Don't fool yourself into thinking a Moto or HTC product is as good as stock android. Sense, Blur, Touchwiz, it's all garbage compared to stock
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Well said. Wish Nexus had a KB, but at this point I am ready to jump ship KB or no KB. Thing is, I am just as fed up with Sprint as I am with Sammy... if the Verizon version is a true Nexus device I am jumping ship.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Rumor has it that Sprint is concerned the OTA will get messed up if before their maintenance is complete.
[Epic 4G General] ugothakd:
That actually makes perfect sense. But wouldn't source be up if it was sprint delaying the ota?

sent from my cm7-ified epic
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
I don't think so since there is no clear date as to when it wllbe released(OTA)
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
So put it on their site with an sw update like they did with the Moment.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Sprint has control over that. They stopped it after the EB13 disaster. It don't go out until Sprint says when and how. That is why we are locked out of Kies...Sprint!
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Bastards...
[Epic 4G General] ugothakd:
Just like the phone...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mongo41:
Here' a theme I put together based off of darkerchrome by Somairotevoli. Included is the icons I've used in the pics. The icons are not flashable so unzip and install with your launcher of choice. I have also changed a few things in the dialer and dropdown. This is my first attempt at this so please dont be to harsh. I would like to thank my friend Raverx3x for the awesome rom he created and for all the help and patience he has given.

10/3/11

ok fellow flashoholics I've done a little update, actually a big update. Like i said this is my first attempt at themeing so its a learning curve. Everything is now themed. Enjoy!

10/5/11

Well you guys asked for it and now you got it, ChromeRemix for ICBINB. Make sure you download the icon zip "BlackFroyo" to get all the sexiness. The Mongo41 in the dropdown is on my phone it will not be in the theme...lol

Install instructions

wipe cache

wipe dalvik

flash zip

fix permissions

reboot.

Enjoy!

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download ICBINB

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