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[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Dett, olyloh and lowveld...

I have just a few questions for you guys.

I have tested almost every version of every sense ROM for the desire s available on this forum. Due to time constraints and the somewhat hectic schedule of surgeries lined up, i am unable to flash this one and test it right now (though i would love to...).

Following are the problems i have consistently found on Sense 3.5 ROMs (all are incidentally by proxuser, great developer i must say). Could you guys go through the list below and see if these problems still exist, as they could be a part of Sense 3.5 bugs to start with, or just porting bugs..

1. There is no Facebook for HTC Sense on 3.5 ROMs in the Accounts and Sync list. There is however a Twitter for HTC sense in all these ROMs. What this does in effect is that your Whatsapp contact images do not display contact pics from facebook, only the ones with a "phone contact" type are displayed. The pictures do sync with your "People" account abd "Messages" but third party apps like Whatsapp suffer from the omission of Facebook for HTC Sense.

2. The personalization menu is fragmented into three tabs with considerable delay in accessing this menu and switching tabs (especially if you're coming from a fast sense 3 ROM like Hyperion). Is it still there? What i'm trying to ask is that is it a problem with sense 3.5 per se or just those ROMs...?

3. Battery drain has always been very high on all 3.5 ROMs, more so in the Sensation port than the Runnymede (Sensation XL) port. Something like 9 hours. Dett, you'd recall i'd mentioned this in one of my posts earlier and you had made a joke about going hairless with that kind of battery life!! ) :D

It would be a big help to me if you guys (if you're currently on Endymion, I know you are, Dett :D) could see if those problems still exist. I am only able to follow the progress of this new port on the mobile app as access to my laptop is difficult, so i'm relying on your reviews.

Thanks in advance. ;)
[HTC Desire S] Jahai:
1. And 2. Are exactly the same in endymion, for me. No Facebook for htc sense and pretty slow in the personalization menu..

3i cant complain about the battery life. My device is running for 16 hours now, with moderate usage and 2 Mobile data. Thats more then i need. All with virtuous governor overclocked 245-1300 ;)

In my opinion this is an amazig Rom ;)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Hi enigmaamit :)

Sorry not running the ROM anymore! I only tested it for 15-20 minutes.

I didn't notice any big lag in the personalized menu, just the fonts were small.

Honestly, the ROM is as fast as Hyperion, even without the smooth Rosie fix applied!

It is really good!

Can't comment on battery life, as I didn't use it much. I had 97% when I flashed the ROM. Played around for about 15-20mins, did a nandroid restore back to Hyperion, and had around 80%.. not bad, as flashing/nandroid drains battery excessively!

Ah your an orthopaedic surgeon :D I can see why you don't have time! My dad is always operating too and never has much free time!

BTW, I posted a reply in the ICS thread :)

Let me know if you want a quick sum up !
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Sorry for amemding your post but I hope you understand why ...

1,There's no Facebook for Sense in Sync ,but there is Facebook and I seem to be able to share stuff through HTC Sense for Facebook ,well that's what it shows when I forward something from my phone.It also offers to send it just to Facebook

2 There is indeed the split Personalisation menu, however I don't notice any lag on this it seems pretty quick actually.

3 As for battery life with just installing the Rom this morning ,setting all the apps back up etc etc ,it is really hard to judge.

That's why I mentioned to Oly in the thread that I'm gonna stick with this one a few days to see how it goes. Though it came off charge around 7am this morning and with doing Titanium backup and Nandroid backup and flashing the rom and couple of addons and all the usual palaver it is at 35% now at 14.40. When I charge it again I'll do a wipe of the battery stats and see how it goes.

What I have noticed is no FC's with either SU ,OC/UV or indeed WhatsAPP.

I use an app called Contapps and most pics seemed to have synced with it and also on the people app.

The ones that haven't could be my fault as when I was setting up the phone I dismissed notifications to sync contacts.

generally i like the Rom and as it is only V1 I'm quite prepared to give it a fair chance.

Of course I have my Nandroid of Hyperion on the sd/card if I decide to go back .

Hope this helps a bit enigmaamit

Ps OC/UV was only amended around midday to what would be standard settings of 245 and 998 awake and 245 and 307 sleep .No UV

---------- Post added at 02:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:42 PM ----------

I use the Friend Stream app on one of my home screens and when I post from that it def says via HTC Sense on my PC
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Thanks a ton for that detailed answer!!

HAVE to try it out now!! :D:D

---------- Post added at 07:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:35 PM ----------

Will do. :D

Could you please post a link to that thread? There are like a gazillion threads regarding ICS now and Search is going bonkers trying to make sense of them!!
[HTC Desire S] det66:
It's really the only way mate .;)

I can't split them, I love both roms ,and it will be interesting to see what else lowveld can do with this one .

I can see myself maybe bouncing between Endymion and Hyperion when he updates one or the other :eek:
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1302064

:)
[HTC Desire S] n0elite:
I'm having a problem with my phone. When someone calls me and I pick up, there's a lagg and it takes about 3 seconds for me to hear the other party. My frequencies are: 245000-998400 with virtuous gov. Sleep frequencies are: 245000-384000 virtuous. Voltages are all stock kernel. So annoying!

-edit- tried other dialer and rebooting, didn't help.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
It's a well known problem with most phones running gingerbread - google it :)
[HTC Desire S] n0elite:
focking hell... and no way to solve it?
[HTC Desire S] bioan:
It was a bug. It was solved since 2.3.3. No worries.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Well, this 2.3.5 and apparently still there... Let's see if I can do anything.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Oh that one!! LOL, read that. Waiting for your review... Nothing in my PM yet.
[HTC Desire S] g-member:
Hey i encounter the same when i received a call today........thought it was caused by weak signal or something
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
PM sent! Sorry for the messy quick review! Any questions PM me back :)

Cheers!
[HTC Desire S] n0elite:
My mom just called me and I picked up but now i didn't even hear her after 17 seconds, had to hang up and call her back..

I didn't have this problem on v1.3.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
What radio are you on?
[HTC Desire S] n0elite:
stock 28.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Ok, 3 seconds I could understand. Nothing at all is a bit more strange.

Anybody facing similar issues? Are you sure it's not your network carrier that's screwed up?
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
lowveld are you planing to make a patch fromOTA_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5-2.10.401.4_release_219523mf0mp85qnytc23pt? :P
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Have to check what's new and if it's worth it. In my opinion this is already the best 3.0 sense rom out there.

Yeah, I know, I would have to say that, wouldn't I? :D

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
You spoke the truth !
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Can anyone with Hyperion installed help me out, and check if the voice search is working ok? Never tested it, and it's driving me nuts on Endymion. Will save me a re-flash cycle :P

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
I`m getting FC after speaking. After 3 times is working. Edit again... after speaking is show me the results (first time I got FC) but after I`m selecting one result (from many) I got FC. (tried many times)
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Just tried it out... Working perfectly on Hyperion.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Thanks guys... Inconclusive, but helpfull!
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
lowveld may help you this: I`m still using 1.3 I`m to lazy to set up 2.0.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
@lowveld, ask oly, jahral and dett, then you'll get a better figure. codryn may be using a different version
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Thanks! It shouldn't matter, but...

And you're missing out man, just flash V2.0 over 1.3. The new Rosie is a killer.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Will do. Thanks mate!
[HTC Desire S] g-member:
Voice search works like a charm on hyperion 2.0 (dutch) no probs at all.
[HTC Desire S] harshs23:
Just tested, works just as it should.

Swyped from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
[HTC Desire S] det66:
I tried it on Endymion and it didn't FC .Took a wee while for it to understand me but it worked
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Fu**

Are you using RCTweaks? It's drivine me insane. It only works after I push the volume button up, it prodeuces that annoying sound, and the correct channel on the audio DSP is oppened.

If you are using RCTweaks, it could be something fixed there...
[HTC Desire S] pumpernickel77:
I'm using Hyperion v2.0 and my voice search is working perfectly. Hope this helps
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Yeah I'm using the Tweaks and als o need to use the volume button to kick in ,but it does work .

Hope this isn't confusing the issue for you
[HTC Desire S] blindndumb:
Dont try this Kernel on Runny 1.5 ,Stucks in Boot loop which can cause heart attacks to newbies and may be some senior citizen..LOL
[HTC Desire S] masterl1983:
Here are my battery statistics with the settings ben_pyett asked for.

Settings are:

- Mobile Date = OFF

- Auto Sync = OFF

- WLAN = ON (and connected)

~ 11 - 12mA

I had the same vlaue with:

- Mobile Data = ON

- Auto Sync = ON

- WLAN = ON (and connected)

~ 12-13mA

Meassurements taken from "Battery Monitor Widget"
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Many Thanks!

Many Thanks (would click) but apparently I've already used today's five! :(

With Auto Sync On you should get spurts of higher consumption but this is totally user dependent and is dictated by what and how often you sync you various accounts, which can range from none to dozens!

For interest and comparisons sake that is over twice what I get using the VoidU ROM where I clock 5-8mA setup in the same way.
[HTC Desire S] masterl1983:
I just recognized that I did not wipe my battery stats before.

Would this make any big difference? If yes I will repeat the test.
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
Yup u shud...it might make a difference...

So i wud suggest u calibrate the battery before testing...:)
[HTC Desire S] fallos:
phone not used for 20 min

WIFI ON

SYNC ON

SCREEN OFF

7-8 ma

when using a phone

125ma, 92ma..

What ma with original kernel/roms ??? and what a fcuk anyway...all my HTC holded not longer than 12h with my usage =))))))))))))))
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
yes, it would, if you don't mind you could try again, if you want to confirm, although fallos has posted results, see below:

Now that's more like it! It's the sleeping usage that's the annoyance though, although the real killer is when you use the thing, nearly all Sense ROMS eat battery at a similar rate once you turn the screen on! and that's FAST!!!!

EDIT: obviously wrote too much of a hurry the first time!
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
I guess thats very good...I guess this rom should sleep well...then it will be on par with VoidU and maybe a shade better...:P

Suddenly sense roms have battery nearly as good as AOSP...butn with a cool ui and widget collection...

No wonder I suddenly have become a Sense fan...:)
[HTC Desire S] masterl1983:
I will redo the test. I have disconnected my phone from the charger this morning and till now (~ 3,5 hours) my battery is still @ 100%

I will post the result within the next hour.
[HTC Desire S] masterl1983:
After a full charge I wiped the battery stats and changed the settings again to what ben_pyett asked for.

Same result after almost one our no usage at all. ~11 mA
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
Hmmmnnn dats strange...very strange...

had expected it to settle...

do a thing...

when ur abt to doze off...at night just put try to find again...

there is a possibility it might haven't gone to deep sleep...

cos according to @fallo a couple of post above....

arnd 8ma was with screen off...

so in sleep it shud be below dat...

i guess rom needs sometime to settlein...

so just wait :)
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
I understand your concerns about battery consumption, but I think you're overreacting here...

The rom has not been optimized for battery saving, which doesn't mean that it's power hungry.

Honestly I have been trying so many tweaks, always with the usb cable plugged in, that I have no idea how good it is. But I don know that it's not bad at all.

Personally, unless it was really abnormal draining, I don't care too much about this and will concentrate in fixing issues and adding features.

Peace.
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
Yup guess so...

Btw u plannin to release something...

i was plannin to download it and test...else can wait if u releasing a new version

though erader is huge let down for me cos i read a lot of books...

but can manage with ereader...
[HTC Desire S] ngek202:
this "Tell HTC" stuff happened to me twice I restarted twice and the Notification still appears, anyway to disable/remove this Notification?

and can you add Auto Rotate on Quick Settings.

and if possible Beats :D
[HTC Desire S] chris5s:
At last, a sensible person. Who cares about the difference between 8 or 11 ma or whatever usage, for the love of god.

Smartphones use battery power, and the more you use a smartphone, the more you drain the battery. Simple. Get used to it.

I'm glad the op of this Rom is concentrating of fixing other issues, because battery drain certainly isn't one with this rom.

Thanks & peace

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] fallos:
Settings>About>Tell HTC
[HTC Desire S] fallos:
Adfree not working for some apps? Anyone?
[HTC Desire S] masterl1983:
I totally agree about that battery drain isn't an issue with this ROM. I just posted my results here because somebody asked for. I charge my phone anyway whenever I have the possibility. Overall I only can tell that this ROM is fantastic.
[HTC Desire S] fallos:
video playback, rotate your phone to the orientation your video is in, if you didnt rotate the video is screwed.

fix?
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Status:

- The e-reader thing is more complex than I thought, I will keep on trying to fix it, but may prove to take longer (kernel thing, mmap() fail, if you know what I'm talking about)

- The "Tell htc" thing also happens on stock roms, but I agree it's annoying and will try to remove it (although it's purely cosmetic)

- The issue with the sensor calibration not working is identified, and I know where to start, but haven't gotten around to it. (kernel thing, lost IOCTL if you know what I'm talking about)

Bottom line, don't wait for another full release in the next days. Want to try it, go ahead, I think it's worth it as it is. Anyway, I try to release updates in the form of flashable zips on top of the "older" rom.

One thing I've been spending some time is porting the HoneyHD and Revolution skins from he_stheone, because currently they don't work on 2.3.5. This is a personal thing, as I love the HoneyHD skin. :)

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Ah, exactly, that's how I get it to work too. But ideally you shouldn't have the volume button.

Thanks!
[HTC Desire S] det66:
No prob
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
We must live near each other :p

Haven't tested it yet in Hyperion, as. I've deleted it from the ROM (hardly use it!) But ill test it now!
[HTC Desire S] n0elite:
Carrier is 100% ok.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Confirmed , working fine for me :)
[HTC Desire S] det66:
lol doubt it mate,first thing that came to mind and I support them
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
I found that Voice is not working if Browser.apk is not present in ROM. Now is working.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Oh right haha :p live near Liverpool, but support United :p

What issues are people having with voice search? No FCs here
[HTC Desire S] Mental_Atom:
Boot Animation

Hello,

I made a basic boot animation for this ROM, working on a downanimation now!

It's attached, move it to /system/customize/resource and enjoy!
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Guessed that from seeing you and Ben speaking
[HTC Desire S] Markolic:
im having issues with this rom, otherwise its the cooliest

the rom is really nice, but i cant use any apps that require superuser because it keeps force closing, also the market force closes a couple times. and there is no locale for english(Canada) .
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Did you update superuser from the market?

You shouldnt have!
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
The base rom is European, that's why no Canada specific locale. Try morelocale 2 from market.

And there are ample warnings against updating superuser from market pal...

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] Markolic:
i didnt see any warning in the OP so i didnt know.
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Before flashing it's always wise to read through all the posts on a thread
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
Really fast v2.0 but HoneyHD Theme when you click on home/app/customize button from main screen should have any animation ? (like default green when pressed) I don`t have any. And when I`m drawing an icon to delete it, red delete button from right of screen is like a square and not rounded on the edges. Is just me or is supposed to be like that ?
[HTC Desire S] Markolic:
There's 996 posts, u crazy?!
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Well consider the time and effort that that would have taken you, which would have been nothing compared to the time and effort that the developer will have put in to creating the ROM in the first place, so that's the least that you could do and is considered good form, otherwise you'll just repeat to ask the same questions that will most probably already have been solved, which will just annoy the most patient posters and well pollute the thread with repetition.

Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
[HTC Desire S] g-member:
The superuser issue troubles many root users so the idea to mention it in the start post is not a bad idea at all.......

But still recomment to read the whole thread.....you wanna flash, you gotta read lol....

@lowveld.....just curious.....are there still tweaks/fixes in progress for hyperion? Cuz i can't think of any ;)

It runs beautifull, haven't had any reboots since 2.0....
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
After 3 times of reinstall same visual bug.
[HTC Desire S] g-member:
And no vibration on those buttons, but can't call this cosmetic changes a bug........
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Sorry I didn't reply earlier. If you are referring to when pressing the dock buttons, not appearing any green glow or something, I made it like that, let me explain:

The original HoneyHD theme has a rectangular dock, that's why hwne you dra a widget to delete you see a rectangular landing spot. You would also see a rectangular highlight when you pressed any dock button.

Due to restrictions on GB2.3.5, we can't theme the Rosie dock, so there was a mismatch between a curved dock, and the rectangular highlights.

I could:

- take out the highligts (editing shared.m10 and mod the xml)

- edit the shared m10 and replace the highlight with correct blue curved .9png figures

Editing the m10 was a real pain in the ass for me. The tools run in windows, which I don't have (yes, hard core linux user). I also don't have skill or knowledge to edit the .9png plus the m10 files at that level.

So I took the easy way out, but forgot to take into account the target area when you remove the widgets.

There you go, I'm lazy. :)

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
ty for explaining this I thought that was my fault for editing some files :))
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Honestly, I can't think of too much to add here. I will release an update to the supercharger values to improve multitasking, as I think we're wasting resources.

Other that that, performance wise, I think it's great as it is. The changes I would do are purely cosmetic and would alienate users (I really like the smaller fonts on Sense 3.5).

But I'm open too suggestions. Just remember I'm not a Java developer so go easy on asking apps for stuff. Focus on core functionality, and remember it has to please everyone.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Hey lowveld, it appears a new build number of the OTA was released last night!

Its now has .5 at the end, Hyperion is .4

Is it worth upgrading to? What will the new changes be in this build?
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Still haven't checked it out... I know one of the fixes was the app drawer forgetting the order, but we had it fixed already.

Let's see if it's worth the bother. I asked proxuser if he noticed any substantial change, as he is releasing an update with the new base.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] g-member:
And the errors in logcat cpu subsys and powermanager when going into idle?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah proxuser said it fixes a few issues!

But I don't think they are major anyway!
[HTC Desire S] n0elite:
I'm going to stop using this rom, call function doesn't work well and no support from dev. Keep spending your time fixing graphics and bs functionality like voice. Thanks for the rom anyway.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
You're welcome.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
That's no right to treat lowveld like that.

He has done this rom out of good will. And its free.

Be grateful, dont treat the dev like that.
[HTC Desire S] vampire36:
Bro no1 else has a problem...

Try this a clean reflash...maybe that shud solve the problem...

Not just wipe cache and dalvik cache...

but a proper clean 1...:)
[HTC Desire S] codryn:
Buy a brick and upgrade it to stock android 4.0 I heard that call function is working !
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Time for new challenges!!

Hyperion is pretty solid as is... and i dont think any major structural or framework changes are needed anymore because it's all sorted out in areas that matter.

Besides small patches adding different functionalities, and database edits like the supercharger values, i don't think there are any real "bugs" left to fix. You killed em all with 2.0

What i would suggest, very humbly, is that you now turn the entire blazing focus of your attention to harnessing sense 3.5. Endymion has potential beyond any ROM out yet and while i have tried out all sense 3.5 ROMs released to date, i am still to come by anything i can certify fit for daily usage...

That being said, i DO realize that you have a life...! So take your time. What i'm trying to say is that Hyperion has come of age. It is now a self-sustaining entity running like a well-oiled machine and doesn't need your daily backing as it once did. Periodic checks are fine.

Endymion on the other hand, is still an infant in need of your support and the full extent of your dev skills. What you do with your time is entirely your prerogative. I just want to see someone take down 3.5 hard. God knows its been a pain to harness, with lags, battery drain, Facebook integration, etc. primarily because it was designed for better processors maybe...i don't know... but so was sense 3!! Seeing what you've done to sense 3.0, i cant see a better person to turn to for this.

Thanks for Hyperion. It remains my all-time absolute favourite.

P.S. : I'd like you to change that. :D
[HTC Desire S] Tik_Tak:
anyone have idea about fixing the stock lockscreen bug? (that you cant answer\see who is calling)
[HTC Desire S] fbcyborg:
I don't have this bug! :confused:
[HTC Desire S] g-member:
So your dutch.....here we go.....

Beetje vaag op de manier hoe je hier je verhaal neerzet, juist omdat lowveld erg begaan is met zijn gebruikers. Je kan niet verwachten dat je binnen een uur een reactie krijgt. Daarnaast is deze rom super stabiel dus jou problemen liggen echt bij jou. Ik draai compleet probleemloos met deze rom.

Maar goed ik wens je meer succes met een andere rom :rolleyes: