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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] testacon:
That's not entirely true...

The Nexus One was the hottest thing when it came out except for the TMobile fiasco. The Nexus S was the same exact thing as the Galaxy S line pretty much spec for spec. The Galaxy Prime is actually a lessor phone compared to the Galaxy S II. Two of their phones were either even or better, this is the first phone that is sub-par.

Galaxy Nexus Pros:

- Timely Software Updates

- Larger Screen

Galaxy Nexus Cons

- 5 MP Camera opposed to 8

- Non Plus Pentile AMOLED Screen

- GPU from 2007 with 2x overclock running 3x the pixels

- No MicroSD slot

- $100 more on contract

Now on paper alone, this phone clearly loses to the GS2, real word speeds will determine feasibility. I'd take a phone that was slightly slower than the GS2 just for the timely updates alone.

What happens though if apps can't hit the 30fps mark due to the gigantic screen and crippled GPU? Will it still be worth it then?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Swiftks:
Is there hope for all you Sprint users??? :D:D:D

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sprint-throws-its-hat-into-the-Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus-campaign_id23180

Now, if we just get some kind of AT&T confirmation for myself... not to worried.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
didn't FCC already cleared the GSM version of NS with ATT frequency along with tmobile's AWS?

Nexus One was on ATT, Nexus S was on ATT, I don't think they will pull the NS out of ATT this time. Same to Tmobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jobiza:
Well, it got Led notification also......rofl.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Alopez_45:
Getting this on Verizon! ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
The older screen technology used on this was forced on it by the fact that Samsung cannot manufacturer Super AMOLED plus screens at this resolution yet. So you can hardly complain about them using something that doesn't exist yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sygeek:
true that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haydonxda:
My thoughts

Google chose the components to speed development, maintain as much compatibility with their existing hardware (so you get the legendary updates the Nexus line is known for) and showcase Android features.

This phone isn't about hardware! If you're buying it for the hardware you're buying the wrong phone.

Also, Samsung probably wasn't interested in manufacturing a phone that competes with their flagship model. Samsung said Galaxy S was their top of the line, if they let Google produce a phone with higher specifications then Samsung would be devaluing their branding.

The GPU was probably chosen because it's compatible with other Nexus phones and Google engineers had experience with it.

No SD card? No reason for that except to cut cost.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] testacon:
Sure you can! I didn't ask for a 4.65 inch screen. I would have taken the exact SG2 specification on a Google branded phone. Sure 720p would have been great if they worked out the bugs, but I don't want large, slow and a washed out screen.

I'm looking for something that will last the 2 years that I'm on contract for. Having instant Android updates is definitely a plus but I wonder how this hardware will fare over the 2 years before I can upgrade. If you find apps today that really push this phone, what percentage of apps will be out there a year from now that won't be useable due to the sub-par GPU and huge resolution.

Now if the most intense graphics apps and emulators out now don't make this phone even sweat, but it has lower synthetic benchmarks then the other phones--this is something I 100% could care less about. As long as it works, and works well is all the expectation I have.

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Um, have you not heard of the Nexus S, it was spec for spec the same phone as the Galaxy S line. Also note that Samsung didn't design the phone, they built it for Google using Google specifications.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Griffrez:
Also, due to developing, the Nexus line gets much better than many top-end lines in terms of performance. You can easily get a faster Nexus S than GSII.

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Problem, fish?

Still. I don't know what you're doing here. You sound like "Oh people, Nexus line is crap, get some beautiful Samsung Galaxy S II phones. THEY RULE!"

Dude... lesser hardware doesn't directly mean lesser performance. You could get super amazing OMG ROFL BBQ phone, but if you put a couple of monkeys on software development... or no one, you get way worse performance than a "Quite awesome" hardware phone, with GOOGLE and CYANOGENMOD and many of the best XDA developers on the back end.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] suomaf:
Here is a question that I don't think has been asked a few millions times. Did anyone see if the galaxy nexus has otg usb host mode thing that the gs2 has? If it does, the sdcard thing will not matter as much. Although having used the nexus s for these few months, I really do not miss it as much as I would have thought.

But seriously, can anyone shed any light on the micro usb to usb thing? Would rock if you could plug your thumb drives filled with pron,.... I mean important documents for umm review.

;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tjotte:
I'm so mad at google right now! Nowhere can i find ANY information confirming the GN transforms into a rocketship!! I meen srsly! It's almost 2012... i'm expecting at least some kind of teleportation functionality or else i WONT buy it!

But for realz ;) I am getting it, so what it does'nt have the absolutely latest hardware, even if it did theres always something better just around the corner, and this is a device for devs and the easily bored looking to change and costumize your phone quite frequently, not the " i secretly wanted an iphone, but it's to gay" people.. either buy it, enjoy it and upgrade in a year or two, or dont buy it and stop crying about it..

Cheers ppl :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haydonxda:
Yes I have. People were expecting the Galaxy Nexus to be higher specified than the Galaxy S II. I'm saying that Samsung wouldn't go with that. Equal, perhaps. And remember, the Galaxy S was already an older phone when Google got their version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
And between the SGS and the Nexus S, which is faster?

I rest my case. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
this phone is great I for one will buy one if on sprint
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Xyp:
Unlimited

The first officially released open phone on VZW...

How much does anyone want to bet that they do away with the grandfathering of the old unlimited data plans when the GNex gets released? It's just too easy to flash CM or some other AOSP with the native tether on it...

Thoughts?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
To me there are only two things on this device you can legitimately criticize it for. The use of a 5Mp camera, which to me is inexcusable even on a device that is more about software than hardware, as they are still they charging frigging enough to at least include an 8Mp snapper. The other is the lack of a memory card slot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Inexcusable reply for the time it took me to read.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
It's easy to find a legitimate reason for google to chose a 5mp sonsor instead of 8mp for the nexus.

They want to achieve the zero shutter lag. In order to do that under the current technology you have to limit the file size to increase the write speed to the memory.

I'm sure everyone here know that larger file takes more time to be written to the memory.

They choose to achieve the zero laf and sacrifice some pixels. The camera is absolutely able to handle more pixels as it can record 1080P video at 30fps.

The increased file size from say 3 more megapixels may increase the write time a few tenth of a second. And that's very noticeable lag when taking continuous shots.

I'm sure the mp count will increase as the memory speed increases.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
All well & good until you realize just how fast the 4S camera is & that has both an 8Mp sensor & 1080p video recording. So I am afraid if your main competitor can achieve this & you cannot without sacrificing the camera to a degree you're failing somewhere along the line.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
I think there are tests done out there that the nexus takes continuous photos way faster than the 4s.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
I would treat these with caution until we see a Nexus sporting production standard ICS, not saying its suddenly going to slow down but in these sort of things I always like to see them running on the version that your average Joe is going to have in his hand.

As an aside is the Nexus screen ratio 16:10 or 16:9?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
1280x720 so 16:9
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rx2mazda:
My buddy has a 4s and it does not take pics as fast as the G-Nex was demoed at.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Its also a price balance. Look at how much an iphone costs upfront and after apple bends you over. The nexus will probably be around $550 for the 16gig and around $600 for the 32gig.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
I was expecting a 12MP Camera because I like to blow up the pics I take with my cell phone up to poster size.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gtrab:
nah I was expecting just 8MP as most mid range plastic phones with mid range processors have

the trick is: put the new OS in there and ask a high-end price for 2 months, then, when the new OS starts hitting other phones, drop the price to the mid-range sector, where it belongs
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
I use them for blimp advertising.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] suomaf:
After some reading, it seems that is should have usb host mode. So having no sd card does not matter at all considering you can just plug in a 2tb hard drive.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jebus99:
wow, mid range phones have 8mp cameras??? I like the world your're on. I guess the SGS2 and the Iphone4S are simply mid range phones, with the diamond encrusted versions representing the high end?

Again, sensor size > MP count. It seems like such a difficult concept to comprehend.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Bigger numbers cater to superficial people. Its a concept hard for reasonable and logical people to comprehend. Go figure.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] e-dub:
the ONLY thing approaching a negative i see with this phone is the fact that the search button is now gone. i used it a lot to bring up a search box, and use it a whole lot in the car via voice search. press and hold the search button then say "navigate to (destination)". i'll miss that, but i'm guessing i can put a voice search shortcut in the last slot on the launcher dock and have it where i'm used to it being; problem sorted. so excited for this phone!

eric b
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Im not 100% sure but i think search is supposed to easily accessible in the ui somehow. No way to confirm yet. All your galaxy belong to me.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] e-dub:
yeah, the search box is on the top of every home screen. looks like the search won't be accessible in sms, gmail inbox, web pages, etc unless the contextual buttons do it. either way... no big deal for me, really though i do use them, as i'll get over it and probably very quickly.

eric b
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] suomaf:
................

Huh?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
To off load photos and other random garbage you don't need on your phone.?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
Thank you that's a relief after the GS2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] suomaf:
To use as an SDcard that everyone is hammering on about? :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
What's an sd card...?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CamoGeko:
External memory card, 8GB > 16GB > 32GB etc...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
Can I get one of these cards at hallmark?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crankshaft:
Lol

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CamoGeko:
Don't know about hallmark, but you can def get one off ebay.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
Most likely he's trolling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
Just being a comedian LOL. I thought it was laughable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
y'all being a Lil too serious in here. :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CamoGeko:
I know.

Even so, that still is my comeback lol :p

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
We just want our new phones

:(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
Why? Because apparently everyone is just going to continue to whine and complain once they get them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aohus:
its not solely about screen size. its about the overall fit and feel of the phone, with bezel and everything included.

anyhow, its rumored to be as thick as the AT&T Galaxy S II LTE, about 8.8mm thick.

not entirely true. ICS file dump does not show VZW bloat, just some VZW network related apks.

The Nexus Prime (SCH-i515) is to come to Verizon first.

The Galaxy Nexus (GT-i9250) is to come later. Could be wrong. Just my hunch.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gamefreakgcb:
Just turn the phone around in that 'shop. It will look more natural then it being upside down. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BicolXpress:
Lol Its upside down
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Nexus one came out on verizons cellebrite and didnt come out so dont mean much look.it up, hopefully its on sprint first rumors are rumors we shall see the 11th
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] woodythegreat:
definitely has a unique design. hopefully it comes out for t-mobile
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schwalbach:
I think I actually want it to only come in an unlocked version for the other carriers. I have an update I'll just use it for the SGSII and sell both that and my SGS to buy the Prime. I only want it this way because I bet it saves me 3+ months of waiting for AT&T to actually put it out or whatever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Looks interesting. If it's any bigger than the SGS II's dimensions, I'm not interested in the slightest.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.m0x:
This sucks. Thought I'd try and hold onto a phone for more than six months this time but no dice.

Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Uhm...the phone on the picture is upside down...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shahpur.Azizpour:
4.0 " is perfect, 4.3 acceptable but 4.65 is huge. Yes we will lose the capacitive buttons in favour of on-screen buttons but the bezel will still be huge as the phone will have a chin like any other device...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schwalbach:
I don't know where they are getting the idea that consumers want 4.6"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bangdrum:
I do :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdapao3:
I don't want a 4.6", I want the 5.3" of the Galaxy Note! That will be my next smartphone after the SGS and SGS2 and precisely because of its screen size.

Perfect screen size for a smartphone is, for me, around 5,5" (it depends on the bezel, of course).

Oh and am I in the minority absolutely HATING the use of metal or glass casings/back covers?? I LOVE good quality plastic! Both because it feels much nicer in the hand and because we are talking about *mobile* devices, the lighter the better FFS!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zarnikon:
Just made a render because the other one cut a little piece off and turned the phone upside down:

And I've put the HTC titan next to it, re sized them both to be the same height to compare thickness:

I'd say that the Nexus Prime will be about 7.3mm thick at its thinnest point and about 10.6 at its thickest
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] UnknownPleasures:
I'm willing to bet the "perfect combination" is ICS and Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kiboe:
dear google,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCP85FngzE

nuff said
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
BGR has the purported specs: http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

* Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich

* 9mm thin

* 4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass

* TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz

* 1GB of RAM

* 32GB of built-in storage

* 5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front

* 1080p HD video capture support

* LTE/HSPA depending on carrier

* Wi-Fi a/b/g/n

* NFC

* 1,750 mAh battery

"We have confirmed that the Samsung Galaxy Nexus will be a pure Google Experience device without any third-party UI or modifications, so no TouchWiz on this one, guys"

It'll be a Veriz exclusive initially.

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Honestly, the 4.65 inch screen is too large for my taste.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aaa:
I wonder how the quality of the casing or battery cover will be...this is the biggest problem by all Samsungs smarties.

hmmm...bigger than 4.3...hmmm...I am not sure about buying something with this size...I ain't planning to put my phone in my bag..I always carry it inside my pocket...

...but...I might change my mind tho'....

The perfect size for me for a smartphone is 3.7" up to 4.00"...and 7" for tablet..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
What a shame on the Verizon crap. I would never use LTE without unlimited data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gtrab:
be prepared for some 5MPix whinning :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CamoGeko:
And missing SD card slot hatin' lol

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
No, youll hear i dont have any more storage room.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
I find it weird how, i am at peace with the specs of this phone. I find them totally and utterly acceptable. I'm coming from a Dinc and i always told myself the only thing I'd change about this phone is the screen. Unfortunately that's easier said than done, near impossible rather. But I am totally at peace having this phone in my pocket until the next nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jorge330823:
You obviously didn't see the function when they pressed airplane mode. It was mind blowing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
The 2 mp camera I bought in 2003 is still better than the last 2 phone cams I had at 8 mp...so I'm not going to judge anything based on the goofball mp number. The demo of camera looked like a big plus, not a minus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
I'm coming from Nexus S, so I don't miss sd card.

And I am happy the camera is 5 mp, because it's tiny sensor. 5mp is enough, it will handle better in low light situation compared to 8mp with the same sensor size.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gtrab:
That's because you've not seen pics taken with the Xperia Arc S's EXMOR R sensor. Nothing beats it in low light, and in full 8 mpix.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
My 5dii smokes it for low light performance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gtrab:
you wanna compare your 5dii ?? I can bring my alpha then ;)

but weren't we talking about phones here ??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Woodend:
Ok, then I take it back ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Nexus!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] knut150:
Nexus, nexus I can't wait :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Lol this
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
Is it using any kind of toughened glass, as I saw it confirmed today it isn't using Gorilla Glass?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jobiza:
Ugh... More and more falling to choose Galaxy Note..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slimslim:
Me too :-(

http://m.pocketnow.com/android/corning-kills-galaxy-nexus-gorilla-glass-rumor
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
Thanks for that. All that high price and this is a more significant admission than the lack of card slot and camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Brumble:
Can't decide between this or the droid razr :/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jobiza:
Yeah, too bad... But, seems like it never meant to be for normal people, maybe only for developers. I don't mind getting Android updates few months later than Nexus's as long as i have the latest hardware. (Speaking of Galaxy Note, with 2500mAh battery, 5.3" HD Display, S-pen, 1,4Ghz Exynos and 32Gb memory. :-) )
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Galaxy not e looks like a good alternative but will it get ics?

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
im sure it will but not sure when. maybe 3 to 6 months
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kiboe:
the galaxy s 2 will get ICS, yes, it will be a varient made for the physical capacitive buttons, TechnoBuffaloo put a video up reviewing the leaked OTA rom for the nexus s

[YOUTUBE]_2HvA_JobQ0[/YOUTUBE]

i think John loves WP7 a bit, (cue marty with fanboyism)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TonyHoyle:
Not a leaked OTA at all... The notes on the video show it's the SDK port from XDA (which is really neat, btw.).

"It was just the other day when news hit about a working build of Ice Cream Sandwich being ported to the Nexus S, and while that's all well and good, just seeing the many photos wasn't enough. We wanted in on the action, too, because when we see a shiny new toy, we have to play with it."

ICS doesn't need a variant for physical buttons - it already handles them just fine.. it's just up to the manufacturers to get off their arses and produce an OTA of it. The Nexus S will of course have one pretty sharpish. The rest is up to Samsung, HTC, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
Can I has this phone yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nory82688:
the anticipation for this phone is killing me lol I really want to have one by launch day, which means if T-Mobile doesn't cough up the goods soon (meaning tell me their game plan,time/date/unlocked at bestbuy?) Ill be importing one asap from the UK. Galaxy nexus is too good to sleep on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DJTaurus:
So it seems GN is not that big...just a little taller than GS2 :)

GN: 135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm

GS2: 125.3 x 66.1 x 8.5 mm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMr6DhCEZco
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AllGamer:
taller + slightly wider + slightly thicker
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CamoGeko:
Have to say though, the esthetics of it are sexy. There is no doubt that Samsung is getting pretty close to cracking the perfection of functionally and ergonomics in a mobile device.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ptscon:
Err nevermind
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
I was really hoping with the better screen ratio that would be able to keep its width on it down more. It's not their height or depth that causes me ergonomic problems with phones but their width. Hence why I like the Arc's design in this respect.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AllGamer:
the ergonomic is definitely fine, just like the Nexus S

very easy to grab one handed

now this new version might be a bit of a challenge for smaller hands like mine :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fdm1:
The screen ratio is 16:9 to take advantage of HD video, as that is the same ratio of movie screens.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dirk:
It's not even close to the aspect ratio of movie screens! :p

The most common aspect ratios used today in the presentation of films in movie theaters are 1.85:1 and 2.39:1.

16:9 = 1.77:1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

http://www.thelooniverse.com/movies/west/aspectratio/aspectratio.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CamoGeko:
Pwnd.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fdm1:
I stand corrected...what i meant was standard high-def display. From the same wikipedia article: "16:9 (1.77:1), universal for high-definition television and European digital television" Hence, ALL video, not just most movies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ckoadiyn:
U know what they say about people with small hands right? The need small gloves n phones :p sorry lol. I think the screen will be a fine size as its mostly bigger due to no captive buttons interested how other manufacturers will pull this off tho.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gtrab:
Small hands ?? Get a golden Xperia Ray :)

Cool little piece of Android
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Super Chimp:
I know that's why I was hoping it would be a bit narrower than it is.