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[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] spacebar2011:
@Vishal -

Okay, first off, I understand the externals and internals of a phone pretty well as I have a masters in telecommunications and embedded design. I'm not purely into software but hardware is my field. And being into PC's and Macs for over 15 years now, I understand exactly how the PC update system works compared to the Android system. The thing I'm trying to say is, by keeping their ROMs as close to stock (not completely stock) as possible, they'll do themselves and their customers a huge favour. Also, I taught a few people here about flashing, so I think I'd know "Thats why our phone become dead when we flash firmware of S (even though its android)."

What differs from device to device are the drivers. The Android OS is more or less the same on every device. Manufacturers have to come up with a more efficient way of updating firmwares. By keeping number of devices slightly low and keeping all devices up to date as per the device's capability, they'll get much higher customer satisfaction and retain a lot of customers. I'm not into marketing at all, but I know that retaining customers is one of the biggest challenges for any company in this industry. Just pushing out a ton of models without supporting what you've sold before makes you a lousy manufacturer who'll lose customers.

Perhaps you're not aware, but any OEM who uses the Android brand has to agree to the terms that they have to update all their devices to the latest software for at least 18 months since the device was released.

"Low price product customer" (in your words) deserves what he was promised while buying the device and what he demands is what are the terms. Having software updates on time till 18 months after the device release date is part of the Android agreement.

When you sell ANY device, you have to back it up with after-sales support and software updates are a part of it. You cannot choose between ""low price customer" & "high price customer". And the phone we're talking about here is not exactly low price anyway!

Do you know anything about the Nexus phones? They're priced almost similarly to the top end phone from the manufacturer. The Nexus One was priced similarly to the Desire, Nexus S was priced similarly to the Galaxy S and the Nexus Prime will be priced similarly to the Galaxy S2.

And every Nexus phone has been released in India. I don't know what "normal Indian" you're talking about because all the models I mentioned have sold quite well in India!

And NO, someone who's in the market for a smartphone will buy a smartphone, not a laptop. Those are two entirely different markets and you're mixing them up. It doesn't depend on the price. You bought a i9003, I guess it cost you around 20K, why didn't you buy a netbook or an entry level laptop instead? You didn't because they're completely different things and serve different purposes.

---------- Post added at 02:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:01 PM ----------

I agree and might I add, I should've gone for the Nexus S when I bought the i9003 and shouldn't have fallen for the "slightly better processor and more user-available-RAM".
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ggclanlord:
@Space

Nicely said man!

Agree with you, totally!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Misledz:
I fail to see entirely how I watched a 15min ****ing long video only to realize that Google had quoted "ICS 4 will unite

all

android smartphones" I don't know If I've emphasized the word "all" well enough by them, But when a teacher says "Class you have a test" It means that every bloody student in that class gets the bloody paper and does the bloody exam. If Google wasn't such a **** at this then maybe, JUST maybe they should have rephrased themselves and said "The ICS 4 will be limited to a range of selected handset series.

If the i9003 didn't see to as much potential as the developer's had hoped, Then why mass produce and make the bloody plastic brick. Why make it just as expensive as the former i9000 series. If I buy a PS3 over a PS2 I expect the PS3 has more potential than the PS2 or else the 3 wouldn't have had it's name fit into there. When I saw "i9003" I had hoped this meant more potential than the I9000. I don't intend to buy any ****ing Samsung phone if this keeps up, No S2, S3 or S90000000, Samsung really needs to know the difference between numbers and letter's that 3 comes after 1 and 3 is supposed to stand for "better than 1".

Yes, I'm angry, furiously angry after reading the updates stop at 2.3.5 with just some bloody skin changes that my grandmother can get her carpenter to do the same with her room.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] netchip:
WE HAVE CYANOGENMOD.YOU CAN GET ANDROID 900000.1

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] xGiox:
you really don't get a point,i don't give a f**k about cm it is cool but in few months there will be new cm that will be ics based and we wont be able to have it.its like saying **** gingerberg we have cm froyo version 'who need's gb' froyo cm is much better.BUT GUESS WHAT ANY OTHER FW WILL BE BETTER ON ICS INCLUDING CM.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] shriom_manerker:
so the conclusion would be to just buy a nexus ! i;ve always noticed its the first device to get latest updates ! hope its priced low ! as i'm not earning i dont feel that comfortable asking my parents to get such expensive phones !.. my next target nexus prime ! after 2 years :( till then stuck with i9003 :\
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] netchip:
No, if CM is ported you can have ALL ANDROID VERSIONS.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] shriom_manerker:
and how is that possible ? :O doesnt kernel change when we go from 1 version to another ?
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] netchip:
Yes, but CM has nothing to do with Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] AdrenalineX:
Lets wait for 2.3.5 first, after we have a nice bug free Gingerbread we will press Samsung to give us Tasty Icecream:)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] falex007:
I think you are not right: we has closesource software to work with GMS module, GPS, camera and so on (even with video) and nobody will recompile them for newest kernel. And because of politic of linux ("Stable API no sense"). We could don't have ability to use our device at all. Also even now we don't have video hardware accelerating, because Samsung used deprecated technology removed from GB.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] netchip:
I am a i9003 cyanogenmod developer so I know it really ;)

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
well said netchip...! CM7 is a like key to open any dream update open for our device. So dont wory about ICS. It will definitely come through CM7.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] falex007:
OK. Let's hope that it still will work well with samsung's blobs or developer will found opensource analogs :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] prince_venom:
SOMEONE QUOTED THAT

"ACC. TO GOOGLE EVERY BRAND HAS TO UPDATE THE DEVICE SOFTWARE ATLEAST 18 MONTHS AFTER THE RELEASE DATE OF DEVICE " :eek:

> IF THIS IS TRUE THEN I THINK SAMSUNG IS INTENTIONALLY DELAYING THE UPDATE OF SL SERIES .

> BECAUSE RELEASE DATE OF I9003 IS "February 2011" AND ACC TO THAT SAMMY HAS TO PROVIDE UPDATE TO SL UPTO "OCTOBER 2011".

> IT MEANS THEY HAVE TO GIVE `ICS` TO I9003 BT THEY DONT WISH TO DO THAT.

> REASON BEHIND IS A MARKET STRATEGY TO ONLY GIVE ICS TO MAIN STREAM DEVICES LIKE ACE AND GALAXY S AND TO FORCE THE SL USERS TO MOVE TO SOME ****TY COSTLY NEW THEMED GALAXY S2.

> SO HENCE THEY DELAYING UPDATE FOR I9003 TO COVER THE 18 MONTHS DURATION ON JUST UPDATING THE GINGERBREAD.

> OUR DEVICE SHOULD BE UPDATED TO 2.3.5 FOR NOW EVEN ASIAN REGION DIDNT GET GB EVEN NOW WHILE OTHER DEVICES LIKE ACE ARE ALREADY UPDATED TO 2.3.5 ON PAST AUGUST. :mad::mad:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] spacebar2011:
I think you need to comprehend what you read, better.

OEMs have to update their devices with the latest Android version, TILL at least 18 months since release. After 18 months of release, they might choose not to update the device any more.

So, till 18 months, they're bound by an agreement to update every device to the latest Android version.

Google has been too lax with OEMs to see to this and the OEMs have been getting away with a terribly lazy and greedy attitude.

That, Google says, will change with the release of ICS. Updates will be much faster.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Misledz:
So basically buddy they trap us by saying that 18 months is the time period in which the devices will be supported with updates by Google, once they delay the updates and it passes the 18 month checkmark then they can calmly say that the time period has expired hence they have to reason to support the device henceforth? Isn't that more like cheating the customer's.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Lordrdx666:
+ 100 for the educational google zoo joyride! :D

Tapashocked :) via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice ! :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Lordrdx666:
It is clean and clear cheating just like the clean and clear facewash... I just hope google doesn't end up becoming a lesser glorified version of apple with samsung following at the heels... :eek:

Tapashocked :) via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice ! :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Lordrdx666:
I am in absolute agreement over your words... Nexus S should've had been my phone of choice but i fell into the brand trappings of galaxy s series & I feel greatly swindled over this whole update issue..! :(

Nexus S right now has got a sh*tload of ROMs + various kernels and apps... All in a pretty decently short span of time... Let us see what do galaxy note + nexus prime + galaxy s3 usher for us in the upcoming time!

Tapashocked :) via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice ! :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sicmofo:
Well...any android is still better than any iPhone so I'm still happy :)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ronhoover88:
Android is better than iOS....Apple is 100 times better than samsung...iOS is updated all over the world at the same time but our dumb samsung once in three months for a region:(....even i should have gone for a nexus s...now its too late!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] fxzy:
That's why I have abundoned I9003. Now use HTC sensation
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sakindia123:
lol...i dont have any phone!

xD
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] spacebar2011:
Sort of yes, but tighter controls from Google would make the OEMs update quicker.

But that's one of the downsides of OSS. There's a limit to how much control you (Google in this case) can assert. So, I won't hold my breath for OEMs to change their attitude anytime soon.

Hence the decision - I WILL ONLY BUY NEXUS DEVICES NOW ON.

iOS and WP have that advantage 'cos it's just one software, one version. Android has like 5000000000000000000 different versions because every OEM screws with it and tries to make it "cool" and unique (not!). Updating every version for every different model alongwith all that bullcrap customization is a nightmare.

Of course, if you don't care about the latest updates, you're not going to have a problem.

That's no better. Good luck with the updates..
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] netchip:
Dont forget that Sensation has bigger community ;)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jesrani:
I haven't used Nexus or HTC devices. Is the battery life better on these? Agreed that there are less ROM's and themes for our device, but as a phone, is it bad compared to other devices? I am happy with Cranium ROM and Joode's Concept Blue theme, don't really like to change themes too often.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sicmofo:
I honestly dont give a damn about ICS. I just wish we could get skype to make video calls on our device. I'm surprised not that many are complaining about the lack of video call functionality on our phone.

And to be truly blunt I think working towards full skype functionality would benefit alot more people than working on cyanogenmod. Although its nice to have a blazing fast and feature filled phone, I think its important to work towards the basic stuff that our phone cant do but other phones do easily.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Unkalo:
Completely agree. Only Tango works well. Fring, Skype or ooVoo doesn't works on our phones. Video calls are basic....
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] Erahgon:
I actually agree with sicmofo on this! It's really frustrating to see advertised features not work.

Probably CM7 with it's custom kernel will help, as it will not use the outdated opencore modules for the camera (I gathered from reading that thread). Hopefully it will solve the host of problems we've had with our phone (and well give us the latest of updates)!
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jamsori:
They might even be able to get the camera to work in CM7 because of that, so don't get too excited.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] vishal24387:
Dont wory guys. I have full faith on codeworkx & his team. It will take time to build a super stable cm7 rom. But I am damm sure that they will solve every problem in it. For that we have to keep patience.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] XDA_Bam:
2.3.5 seems to be up: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1308888
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] haula:
When is it actually coming ??
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] neil05:
@mjbri and blaqarma mga kuya can u post this update to our symbianize thread?so that our pilipino friends can see the update and cn u make tutorial on how to flash it?tnx u bro..
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] mjbri0613:
Done neil.. Check the last post..
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] neil05:
@mjbri tnx kuya..
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] trip007in:
This thread can be closed now.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fidel Cashflow:
Forgive me for the Noob-ish title but I was hoping to get advice/feedback (and raise my post count so I can post in the dev section). I recently won a Nexus S (my Nokia N900 finally bit the dust :() and was duped by the lister into thinking it was new and not a pristine used one. According to the lister it will come with an unlocked bootloader which I understand would allow me to flash custom ROMs are there any special steps needed? The phone should come with GRJ55 and I was looking to experiment with NScollab and SuperOSR. I have flashed a few android devices before (using CWM) but wasn't sure if an unlocked bootloader was enough or if I needed to get CWM on there, or if one is better than the other.

Thanks!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fidel Cashflow:
Anyone? :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
if you have an unlocked bootloader.. all you need to do is flash a recovery(cwm or twrp recovery) then flash roms. but maybe you already have a custom recovery installed. power on pressing volume up and power at the same time, press recovery..
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] n99hockey:
So now thatw have these sweet lock screen rings, is there anyway to just have the center ring unlock rather than one hard left and one hard right?

I don't use the right hand one that adjusts volume, would be nice to have it just be one and look more like Honeycomb.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] ubuntunerd:
I was looking for the same earlier you can find or ask for it on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1281572
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] SynisterWolf:
I can try to make it so there is only one ring and its in the center. I will have to take it all apart but i will let you know.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] i8qbert:
That would be awesome!

Sent from somewhere...
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] n99hockey:
That would be fantastic, thank you so much!!
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace92:
I'm using LinuxDx v.004 and app swapper configureation.

i've configured to use 128 mb for swapping, but in benchmark it shows a diffrent not that big, how come?

do i need to swap more?or a faster sd card??
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Asycid:
Swap is not for performance upgrading. It's for running apps that has high memory usage. If you have swap, you can run games like PvZ and DeadSpace without any problem.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace92:
got it thanks (:
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Where to Download ClockWork MOD Recovery for the Droid 3.

1. Official ClockworkMod Recovery signed by Koush: http://bit.ly/pYsZfs

2. Hashcode's Tweaked ClockworkMod Recovery with BP Tools support: http://bit.ly/r3uqpI

Ice Cream Sandwich A.K.A. Android 4.0 Media, Wallpapers, and APKs

1.

Ice Cream Sandwich Media and Wallpapers thanks to MyDroidWorld

:

Media: http://bit.ly/r3VLk6

Wallpapers: http://bit.ly/qYNKpv

2.

Nexus Prime Boot Animation thanks to MyDroidWorld:

Download Link: http://bit.ly/q8AvOr

3.

Ice Cream Sandwich Google+ v2.0 thanks to AndroidPolice

Download Link: http://www.multiupload.com/OJAK7EWS1S

Mirror: http://minus.com/mplus2

4.

Ice Cream Sandwich Music APK thanks to AndroidPolice

Download Link: http://www.multiupload.com/HDU1GPTDXM

Other APKs

1.

CyanogenMod7 MMS Apk

Install this like any other APK

Download Link: http://bit.ly/qPHMyC

2.

MIUI Music APK

Install this like any other APK

Download Link: http://www.multiupload.com/90JL7KJL7F

Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?i3fq2icxtroia52

3. NOVA LAUNCHER (4.0 ICS ONLY):

Download Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher

Prime (Paid) Link: https://market.android.com/details?...wiY29tLnRlc2xhY29pbHN3LmxhdW5jaGVyLnByaW1lIl0.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Are there currently any ROMs for the xt860? Or could we expect to see some compatibility from these ROMs in the future

Sent from my rooted xt860
[Motorola Droid 3] 05gsxrk5:
thanks for putting this up
[Motorola Droid 3] TJK775:
I just flashed monster ROM so far i love it nice n fast
[Motorola Droid 3] VincentDHam:
Thanks for this! Subscribing!
[Motorola Droid 3] MyDrodonWall:
Using steeldroid, ninja morph my own them
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Do these work on XT860? Will they work on XT860 in the future?
[Motorola Droid 3] eezdva:
Yes we really need to know if there will be any difference using these for the XT860.

I guess CM7 should work for sure???

Whenever someone created a ROM they should add what models it will work for. People might really brick their phone if not.

Anyways CM7 is gonna be great if it will work for hour phone.
[Motorola Droid 3] VincentDHam:
If you use the recent version of CWM recovery (where you can access through bp tools) you should be good if you end up in a bootloop. So in case you do decide to flash it, make sure you have the recovery and made a nandroid backup.
[Motorola Droid 3] eezdva:
Thanks for the answer. But some people say it will work some people say it won't . I would rather like to know for sure.

I bought the phone from the internet . I am in Holland so if something goes wrong it will be harder for me to send it back etc etc.

Maybe we need a special XT860 section so there will be no confusion.

What does Kshen1 say?
[Motorola Droid 3] SX86:
XT860

Same here, using a XT860, and need to know if there is anyway to make those future releases compatible with this phone... I just hope we won't be left out...
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Indeed, because if mods like cyanogen won't be available for XT860 (or with huge delays/bugs), then I might consider getting a XT862 for use in Europe instead.
[Motorola Droid 3] kern417:
awesome write up, i was hoping someone would do this for people knew to Android. sub'd until it becomes a sticky.
[Motorola Droid 3] Wolfhere:
I tend to download to my computer and examine before installing to my phone. So if you are going to go this route, you will need to use Internet Exploder. Does not work with Firefox.
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
I actually have a few Canadian friends that are devs. I will see what I can do to have them try and port CM7 to the XT860 ONCE IT IS STABLE.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
So you're saying XT862 ROMS won't work on XT860 initially?
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Most likely not.
[Motorola Droid 3] lodisax:
menu language

there is a rom in the phone menu has Italian language?

thanks for the answer
[Motorola Droid 3] Benjamin150:
I'm Stock Deodexed with the 1% increment battery and metamorphed. I did a nandroid, but after I installed the 1% increment mod. Will I have to do anything before flashing CM7 or can I do it in the state I am now?
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
There will be a completely new recovery and process which we will be going through to flash CM7.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Any word from ROM devs?
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
OP updated.
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
anyone tried all (or at least the first two) of these ROMS in order to make a comparison between them?
[Motorola Droid 3] smoshism:
I've got a comparison between v1 of steel Droid and monster. Seems like comparable performance, but the monster theme is a bit better in my opinion. Seems as though Chevy did some theme updates in his latest iteration, though, so i'm going to try steel Droid v2 out later

Sent from my MONSTERdroid3
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
thank you, smoshism.

looking forward for you review after V2 :)
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
I will post your comparison in the 2nd post so people can see as well. :).
[Motorola Droid 3] eezdva:
Well in a way that's sad news that they won't be compatible. But good news that you will be in contact with devs in Canadawho will be eager to have CM7 or anything else running on the XT860.

I hope Bell comes quickly with their update because the battery life is crap till now on the XT860.
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
I do not know, what theme did you flash?
[Motorola Droid 3] VincentDHam:
It was a theme i created from UOT kitchen. I made one to test first and it worked. Then i made another one that was more modified and ended up in a boot loop and couldn't get back into recovery to restore.
[Motorola Droid 3] MrJudylicious:
Ive found that steel droid v2 is a bit quicker than monster rom 1.1. I like monster better, but SDv2 scores higher on benchmarks. Loading all these makes me want to load stock deod and hit the kitchen
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
You shouldn't flash the .zips from the UOT kitchen. They can be a bit finicky at times. Just ADB push the framework and systemui apk that come with the .zip file and u shud b good to go
[Motorola Droid 3] VincentDHam:
Everytime i try to adb push something it doesnt work. It says adb push not allowed or something
[Motorola Droid 3] 05gsxrk5:
give Monster rom 1.1h a shot
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Very fast for me, Imo I like it more than Steel Droid.
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Tomorrow I will be adding Mods to the 2nd Post for people to easily find Mods available for the Droid 3.
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
Monster 1.1h is fricken fast! I love it!
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
My big question is: if we try flashing one of these ROMs to an xt860, and it isn't compatible are we likely to still be able to boot into recovery(as we have no sbf) I don't mind trying if I can just restore from a nandroid but I don't know enough about ROMs to know how badly it could brick it

Sent from my rooted xt860
[Motorola Droid 3] The Solutor:
@ the opening poster

You should provide a link to the Xt883 ROM thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1292306

Works way better than the verizon one, at least for GSM users.
[Motorola Droid 3] MrJudylicious:
1.1H is the stuff man. bees knees for sure!! I appreciate the work youve done.
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
My thoughts are no you cannot boot into recovery because the roms flash your /system. Just don't do it till you get the OK.
[Motorola Droid 3] wootizzle:
Having issues using switchpro to reboot now. At first it'd take a few tries to work now it just flatout won't. Also does anyone have cityid?
[Motorola Droid 3] gravenimage:
I don't have cityid, but I have a free alternative that works pretty well, pm me your email and ill send it to you

sent from my MONSTERDroid3 from the XDA app
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Try giving it Superuser permissions again.
[Motorola Droid 3] wootizzle:
**** I didn't mean to post that in here, lol. But um. I had removed it and reinstalled finally it asked. I granted and checked to remember and it rebooted but again its not working. My bad for posting in the wrong place. Meant to post in monster rom thread.
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Its all good, this is a support thread too anyways.