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[Off-topic] 4silvertooth:
Well you are wrong about time travel. Just Google about a experiment on atomic clock in a airoplane and how the clock goes slow with increase speed with reference to a atomic clock on earth.

You can go into the future if you can travel at speed of light. But to go back in past you need a wormhole (google wormhole) because there's no negetive speed traveling possible.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Isn't that experiment just confirming Einstein's theory of special relativity?

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[Off-topic] 4silvertooth:
Yes but that also mean you can travel time. Ok let me put this in simple words. Lets say you have 2 bacteria who only live for exactly for 1 hour. The one on earth will live 1 hour on earth but the other if its put on a airplane will live few seconds or micro seconds more than the one on earth, and if we put that bacteria on a ship which travels at or near speed of light will live may be few hour more. It's called time travel. You go in imaginary space ship which can gain lets say at speed of light, you take that ship for a spin for a lets say exact one year and come back to earth you will see that it has already passed more than one year on earth.

When atomic clock from the airplane was brought near the one on earth its showed few micro secons less than that on earth ,so atomic clock on airplane in scientific term has travelled time for that amount of micro seconds.

Every time you travel at speed you are time travelling but the amount is so small its in fractions of micro seconds so its just negligible to be noticed. But if that speed reaches the speed of light you get to notice the time travel.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/hotsciencetwin/
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Should i bite.....?? :D
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Yeah, that's what I was talking about... But unfortunately were far from making vehicles that fast to allow us real time travel

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[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Please do. It will save me a lengthy post from my phone....

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[Off-topic] xaccers:
Dirk was refering to travel into the past. We know we can travel forwards in time, we're doing it right now
[Off-topic] 4silvertooth:
Ok lets say we can't make such a ship but a photon is a element which already moving at the speed of light and photon never dies, why because the time is frozen for a photon.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
I wish I'd thought of that.

I started a long post covering mass and energy and a few particle collisions to boot, but I lost signal when I posted.
[Off-topic] 4silvertooth:
Ok than wormhole it is.
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Yeah but don't forget E=mc2 which means that the faster we go towards the speed of light, our matter will become energy :eek:

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[Off-topic] Dirk:
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" - Albert Einstein

To be fair, there are nuggets of fact in some of those statements. It's just that the fiction they were wrapped in makes my head 'splode. :D

Still, it's good to see people take an interest, and i'm sure they'll learn to sort the truth from the fallacy as they learn more. There are plenty who don't know the first thing about relativistic effects and atomic clock experiments after all.

It's also reassuring to know that the forward time travelling that i've been doing for 38 years has now been approved. I was getting worried for a moment there that causality was about to show up and start ***** slapping me! I am however, slightly more fearful about the possibility of a wormhole sending me back to my teenage years, than i was before i woke up today.
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
ZOMG!! It probably traveled back in time....

Somewhere in 1872 a wealthy gentleman is reading his copy of the times and thinking "WTF??"

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[Off-topic] Dirk:
It was probably one of those damn wormholes! :mad:
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Guys, seriously, it is very embarassing when I pmsl at work ok? ;)

Technically while travelling to another region of space via wormhole would get you there before light travelling normally, you'd be travelling a shorter distance.

Think of a police car on the road, if you go faster than it you'll be arrested, but if you take a shortcut to the donut shop you'll get there before it even though you travelled slower.
[Off-topic] Dirk:
xaccers, when you put your car into a hedge all those years ago, were you by any chance experimenting with relativistic effects? ;)

You were studying Physics back then after all, weren't you?

:D
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Funny you should mention that Dirk, I was indeed studying astrophysics, and if I'd remembered to engage the flux capacitor in my 205 I'd have been fine! :D
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Lol. :D

I can picture you now with an atomic clock on your passenger seat... :p

If it were possible to travel back in time i would find Einstein, grab him by the lapels and scream "THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING YOU FOOL!!", into his face.

It would be worth it just to watch his reaction! :)
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Haha... If you go please take me with you :P

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[Off-topic] Dirk:
Awesome find of the day..

The LHC Android app, 'LHSee'

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lhsee

Gonna be trying this out some time today!

Edit: Just been playing with this and i'm rather impressed. It's a great way to get the experiment across to people and help them understand what is going on at CERN.
[Off-topic] Dirk:
ALMA opens it's eyes:

http://player.vimeo.com/video/29941427

A stunning look at the ALMA observatory in Chile. 'The largest Astronomical project in existence'!
[Off-topic] Dirk:
and in todays news..

..a great new Hubble image, believed to be an example of Gravitational Lensing caused by Dark Matter. Quite something if true!

More amazingly, this picture is from an area of the universe 4.5 Billion light-years from us. For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, you are seeing this as it was around the time the Earth formed into a planet! That, is the only time travel that anybody needs to know about. :cool:
[Off-topic] tsx777:
Nice gravity lense of dark matter :)
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Scale of the universe:

http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/

Smallest to largest, this is a wonderful demonstration of size!
[Off-topic] dexter93:
may i bump? :D

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or since this thread is dead i can assume that that happened? xD
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving

And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,

That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,

A sun that is the source of all our power.

The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see

Are moving at a million miles a day

In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,

Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.

It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.

It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,

But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.

We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.

We go 'round every two hundred million years,

And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions

In this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding

In all of the directions it can whizz

As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,

Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,

How amazingly unlikely is your birth,

And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,

'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Brilliant! I'll be singing that in my head all day now. :D

Thread's not dead. Just waiting for the next major breakthrough... :p

I'm looking forward to hearing the results from the re-run 'faster-than-light' test!
[Off-topic] Archer:
Hahaha - love that. Just one side effect though. Now I'll be singing

this

all day...

[YOUTUBE]SSRqzc4fUEw[/YOUTUBE]
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Ridiculous measurement of the day..

" researchers have spotted the most energetic one yet, a pulsar with gamma ray emissions that add up to a total of 2 x 10^12 Megatons of energy every second."

http://arstechnica.com/science/news...-rays-come-from-a-single-energetic-pulsar.ars

Energy is weighed in Tons now is it? There i was thinking the measurement was Joules! :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] dexter93:
Thats what i thought too.. Actually ive only heard of the tons scale when refering to explosives or explosions... :confused:

My kaiser still rocks :cool:
[Off-topic] dexter93:
xD LOL!

My kaiser still rocks :cool:
[Off-topic] Dirk:
How large is the Universe?

[YOUTUBE]CEQouX5U0fc[/YOUTUBE]

Fascinating video!
[Off-topic] Dirk:
FTL results repeated:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236

WTF do we make of this then?

Edit: Above experiment was later shown to be faulty. No FTL as of yet folks!
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Latest Hubble Deep Field picture:

"Spots galaxy formed 380 million years after Big Bang"

Looking at objects as they were 13 Billion years ago because it's taken this long for the light to reach us. I wonder what that same region of space looks like now? Will anyone be around in 13 Billion years time to find out? :D
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
12/21/12. We'll all dead. :rolleyes:

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Mock my muffin. I dare you.

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[Off-topic] Danial723:
Now this was a nice bump from the dark pits of off topic lol
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Yes I will agree.

Let push on!

Anyone here have a guided telescope?
[Off-topic] Dirk:
It's still a dream of mine to have my own observatory. It'll never happen though. Light pollution is such an issue in urban areas now that it makes decent observations almost impossible.

And unfortunately, almost everything in the the civilised world is 'urban' now.
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
LoopDoGG79 we gonna use this thread? :pit needs some help getting "life" back.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
You can go to North Korea.
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
A very interesting fact is that when we look up at the sky we're actually looking back into time. Stars are millions of light years away from us so it takes millions of years for the light to reach us. So we're not looking at what they ARE. We're looking at what they WERE when the light left from there. Those stats might not even exist anymore.

Now that is cool :D

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Problem with your conclusion is stars typically last for several billions years. A few million years is only a fraction of its life time. Unless the star shows signs it's about to die, it's very likely still there.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
The problem with this is that the universe is only a few thousand years old(6,000-10,000), not billions, so....
[Off-topic] Raymond199483:
Drop a iPad off a roof

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[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
Yeah, and when giant stars die, they cause a hypernova or a supernova which is one of the most violent events in the universe.

And when super giants die, they form black holes. One of the most intriguing and mysterious phenomenas of the astronomical world.

Black holes.

I am fascinated by them.

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Over sarcasm. Don't you think?

Wow. You are a genius.

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[Off-topic] i9100g user:
Our universe might be inside a black hole

because galaxies in southern hemisphere rotate in one direction and those in northern hemisphere rotate towards other direction, and it would also answer the question , why we have more matter than anti matter in our universe

Just a theory though , but I like it

http://m.digitaljournal.com/article/326086

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[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Hey thanks for linking that!

Fascinating stuff.
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
Now that's amazing

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[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Is that the subtle whiff of religious discussion in the air??

I sincerely hope not.......

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Saying that something is too complicated to be natural is like saying I don't understand it so Magic.
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
F*cking magnets, how do they work??? :confused:

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[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
Opposite charges attract. The same way Hydrogen (-) attracts to Oxygen (+) to create water.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You mean DiHydogen Monoxide?
[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
Also the theory of relativity states that its not possible to go faster than the speed of light. However, the gravitational force of a black hole is so strong that light is sucked into it. So wouldnt the light being sucked into a black hole be going way faster than the speed of light, since the light cannot escape its pull?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
That doesn't make sense. If anything it would be moving slower than C because it would have the speed of light propelling it against the black hole's pull. There's also too much we don't know to argue the implications it would have on physics.
[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
depending on the direction the light is traveling in relation to the black hole, the light may slow down and be pulled back towards the black hole. So the gravitational pull of a black hole is stronger than the speed of light (if that makes sense). So what i'm saying is that if light was headed towards a black hole it would be moving at the speed of C. Once its within a certain distance of the hole it under the gravitational pull, F, of hole. So it would be traveling at C plus have the force, F, pulling it in the same direction. Thus it would have to be traveling faster than C.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Black holes, as shown by Stephen Hawking, actually aren't perfectly black. They emit quantum particles. Its called black hole evaporation. Visible light is rededicated towards the black hole. Like xbox said, it will actually slow down a bit on its way to the black hole, since it's velocity is bring changed.

Black hole evaporation article.

arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0010055

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[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
Well I think we are all wrong. the general theory of relativity states that speed of light, c, is constant in a vacuum. So the speed of light would remain the same as it travels towards and enters a black hole. What does change is the frequency of the light. As light travels through a gravitational field its loses/gains energy. Light traveling towards a black hole in the gravitational field of hole would gain energy, Thus its frequency would increase.

The Hawking effect happens near (on the ouside) the event horizon of the black hole. Anything that that travels into the radius of the event horizon gets sucked into the black hole. The reason black holes are not perfect is because they cannot absorb radiation with a wavelength equal to or larger than the radius of their hole.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Thanks for the knowledge. My only problem is you are using wiki as the source of your evidence.

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[Off-topic] jojoshua1:
True!
[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
Sorry. I'm lazy.:cool:
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
magnets...............do you know the concept of spins of electron? if yes then i can explain if no then you can google it up.

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really?:rolleyes::rolleyes:they are not at all related brother. During big bang, which is the most excepted idea about origin of our universe, For at least every 1 anti-matter particle there were more than 1 matter particle so we are left with matter. that article says that if our universe is in black hole then it will rule out the most annoying and interesting thing of physics, singularity. Someone needs to explain him that if you are in black hole then you are inside a singularity...............
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Each galaxy is in fact an unimaginably large atom that creates and even more unimaginably large thing. Repeat endless until it starts to loop.
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
galaxy as an atom.....hm....thats a nice theory. ACCEPTED:D
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Big Bang? :rolleyes:

http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/BB-top-30.asp

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/bigbang.html

Unless you mean this:

:tank:
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
its science kiddo. you dont prove something wrong here. it does not work this way. you have to prove something else better than it. there is no theory better than big bang. some theories can solve he limitations of big bang bu they have their own limitations to be solved. I am not saying big bang is absolutely correct. The point here is it is more correct than others. Just using google to prove me wrong aint gonna work. I guess you did not even read that article you linked me to or did not understand it. :fingers-crossed: and the points which the articles are using against Big bang theory apply to every theory out there. None can explain many of those points like where the hell that energy came from

the article says:

If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?

Excellent. Now they use gravity to pull energy. We need to give Noble prize to the author. A 10th grade student can write a better and correct article. LoopDoGG79 can you conform that for me that the article is wrong?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
"There is no theory better than he big bang"

The Big Bang is extremely absurd. It defies many laws of science.

Time over time again, the Big Bang gets proved impossible. Yet human ignorance and stupidity leads one to believe it...
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
ok then link me to a better theory. you have 10 minutes to do that. If you fail you prove it yourself that human ignorance and stupidity lead you to believe that it is wrong. :laugh::laugh: If the theory is better i accept my defeat.:eek:
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Believe it because countless world renowned scientists have come to a consensus to make it well accepted theory that is backed up by enough data to fill a house?

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Scientist have been given better theories over and over again. Yet, they choose to deny it, finding whatever error they can within that theory, rather than exploring the huge number of errors within their own.

(If you still don't understand, I'm saying I couldn't convice you otherwise even if I could show you with your own eyes)
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
so then link me to the better theories because i failed to find them. If you can help this ignorant stupid person, who failed to update to the latest information out there, it would be a great. I am always ready to learn new things and accept new ideas provided they are backed by huge amount of proof and study material for me.
[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
Hymn. Exactly how does one go about proving that the big bang theory was impossible? Are people in a lab somewhere creating universes that the rest of us don't know about?
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
and scientists are performing experiments on our very own earth to simulate big bang. once they succeed do that and it matches the results big bang theory will be impossible to dispose.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Wat?
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
what what? you never heard of it? simulating big bang on a miniature level?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
*Sigh* I'm too tired. Just use google man. Not that it matters. You'll believe in this nonsense because this is what you've always believed.

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Scientists... how stupid can they get?
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
Scientists.. they can get as much stupid as they can but they cannot out-stupid you. :p

Nevermind people. we got stupidity all over xda. Let her believe what she wants to believe. There is no way we can put some knowledge into a mind full of wrong ideas.
[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
A simulation isn't nececassarily proof of something. What scientists are doing is colliding particles as high speeds, seeing the outcome, and using that to validate their theories such as the big bang.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
CnC- Any particular reason for your blatant, childish, unprovoked inflammatory remarks that reek of serious emotional problems you need help/medication for?

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[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
that is what i said. they will do it and then if the compared results are same then we can validate or prove that the theory is right. you used validate i used prove...we both on the same track. ;)

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what i simply did was use the same words as that person. she used stupid word. i used it in my sentence. she used nonsense or something i use the same. so i dont think those were UNPROVOKED inflammatory remarks mate. So get on the topic of physics or there are other threads in OT too.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
The difference is HE didn't aim those remarks AT you. You did aim yours at him.

There is no room in intelligent discussion for the egotistical arrogance and insults coming from you.

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[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
Ichigo is a girl right?:confused::confused:

you are right there is no room for egotistical arrogance and isults in intelligent discussion but there is no room for wrong and incomplete information too..... so from now on i put it like human stupidity instead of directly aiming at him/her right?......first i need to ask if Ichigo is male or female...

Edited the posts to remove those if it helps.

Now that matter is solved can we get back to physics? Are you into physics?
[Off-topic] m0cha5hake:
Well the real fact is that no one knows what happened at the beginning of the universe because no one was their when it happened. So anything describing that event is just a theory and will probably forever remain a theory unless we are able to observe another universe being created somewhere. However based on what we know about the universe today, the laws of physics, and mathematics the big bang theory is best theory that we have on the subject.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
He's a guy. Just trolled as a girl for some time.

Thank you. I honestly believe any discussion can only be interesting if all sides consider the validity of all other sides.

I know there is good scientific basis for existing theories, but I cannot believe that non-living cells accidentally become alive, self-conscious and capable of thought.

Unfortunately for those that believe only on science, there is infinite opportunity to insert supernatural influence into those theories, which being beyond science, cannot be scientifically disproved.

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[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
^^^ this :D

i failed to you simplified language to explain.... thanks for this

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i like to put in supernatural aspect in it....i try to understand things on basis of mutual working of science and supernatural intervention. Stephan Hawking does put God into the game. :p
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
m0cha- I've had enough of you. This topic dances on the borders of religious/anti-religious, and you're in here being reasonable. Do you not understand this is an INTERNET discussion. Grab a pitch fork, paint it inn your team's colors and start fighting.

:p

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