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[Motorola Droid Bionic] DracoDan:
But there is a key element that both you and obviously Motorola is missing. While we may be a small insignificant group, all of our friends and families ask US what phone to buy. Do they go to the carriers for opinions? God no. For this very reason our opinions of Motorola cut VERY deep.

Follow my lead in both swearing off Motorola as well as telling friends and family to stay as far from them as possible. None of my friends or family that are looking to upgrade are considering a Motorola phone thanks to me.

There is a lot of proof that this is already happening. Take for example the absolutely pitiful sales numbers that the Motorola Wireless Division has had for years. Compare them to HTC, Samsungs wireless division, or most others. This is the reason google is trying to grab them up, because their moronic choices have devalued them to the point where their price is in the basement (relevantly speaking of course).

Go ahead Motorola, keep shooting yourself in the foot, most of us don't even care anymore.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] boomerod:
I'm with you man. This was my first and last Motorola Android phone. I cursed Samsung for their terrible Galaxy S line when I was with AT&T - the Captivate. But honestly, the only failing of that phone that was really relevant was the GPS. Unlocked bootloaders and huge dev community made that phone very usable, other than the GPS. Anyone that asks me to recommend a phone maker to them will most definitely NOT hear Motorola come out of my mouth. I think Samsung is making the highest quality builds, although their cheezwiz and RFS suck, but those can be fixed. In terms of custom UI, HTC is, hands down, the best, but their physical build quality is not consistently good. If they would get this aspect under control they would be my #1 choice.

If I had my druthers, I would have stayed with HTC except I could not find a Thunderbolt that did not have physical flaws concerning the screen seal and the power button. I will likely give them another chance next year sometime, depending on whether or not the new Samsung Nexus is worthy buying - if it is, I will stick with it for a couple of years.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] EDNYLaw:
I'm 100% with you, I just dissuaded my friend from buying the Razr and told him to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've owned a ton of Motorola products but I'm sick of their tactics and they'll never get another dime from me, or anyone I know if I can help it. My new goal is to call up Motorola and use the data drop issue to get them to refund the money for the bionic and get a Galaxy Nexus.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ddggttff3:
Well good news is that moto shareholders voted to allow the google-motorola merger. So possible unlocked bootloader in the future? :D

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/18/motorola_google_open_arms/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosit1:
The FCC is really good about checking into issues. When I had an issue, someone checked into it, let me know they would have to do research, and then a week later got a big bundle in the mail from them.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ROB281:
Still waiting for my letter
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
Back on topic, I've been raping these servers for days and I can't find anything.

I'm hoping to find something that says "6.0.001" or something that might be ICS.

You never know ;)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
Not to be Debby Downer but no chance this soon for ics unless Motorola has had the source for an undisclosed amount of weeks without any notice from either company. Blur is faster than most UI addons but not that fast.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
Agreed. Can't help to dream though :D
[Motorola Droid Bionic] necroscopev:
Ok Mistawolfe maybe you can help clear up a few questions i had about the bootloader. Since ICS is going to finally enable the use of both our processors i assume it will have to have new kernal in it right? This would mean the source code that is out won't be that usable for devs in their ROM since we can't flash the kernal? Am i understanding that correctly?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
I believe you are correct. Because current programming is limited to basically older tech and older hardware a new kernel would have to ensue to be able to facilitate the usage of both processors.

I believe it was once stated by moto, that the bionic was basically designed with ics and future android advances in mind and due to this fact I think it would be safe to assume that a "new" kernel was ans is already in development and hopefully close to completion. Moto also said, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that 6 weeks, wasn't it, after ics source was released ics would be coming to the bionic. This alone, such a bold statement, would lead me to believe they have and have had the source ahead of time to help rectify the flop of development and release of this device. I think they HAD to release the device because they were so deep into it that joy releasing it would have cost them way too much. Maybe they'll throw us a tasty ics bone as a form of an olive branch to appease their disgruntled customer base.

I could as well be way off too. With such a speedy release of the razr after the bionic it makes me believe they should've had the razr team working on the bionic as they've seemingly done their job within the given time frame, a task the bionic team obviously couldn't do.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] r0ckstar323:
They said they would announce thr time frame the update will roll out within six weeks of ics being released. Basically sometime between now and the end of the year they will tell us when the phone will.get it and there is no telling how long that will take. I would bet the razr will get it first since I would think they will offer the razr longer than they will the bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
Someone send me cheasecake.apk sjflowerhorn@gmail.com link in OP is dead btw. kthanksbye

Edit: thanks got it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
Ah yes. You're right. I went back and reread it. Thank you for clarification.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dpw2atox:
Looks like someone found a new build via cheesecake and posted about it on the general discussion forums. 5.8.894 is the build, they said they found it on master-sdc100.blurdev.com under Staging but I am not having any luck getting it.

He also said he has forever root applied and this updated did not break it.

edit/update: i tested this myself and it fails to install with forever root applied. I also reverted to a stock system image and attempted to install the update without being rooted and it still fails. I guess this means that we are officially off the upgrade path for now.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1360039
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
Its onlt showing up under 5.5.886 for me uploading the file to dropbox now, link momentarily.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:


Link as promised

http://db.tt/7kAmkitj

5.5.886-5.8.894

Use this at your own risk.

Id wait till we her from credible source on the matter. No offense to anyone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dpw2atox:
As the OP in the other thread stated, they updated the kernel and the lte radio in this build.

Baseband/Radio: CDMA_N_03.1C.57R LTEDC_U_05.15.03

Kernel: 2.6.35.7-g68606e6

hpn683@il93lnxdroid29 #1

I tried to update from 5.5.886 both rooted and unrooted but as I have the 5.7.893 radio/kernel/bootloader, it fails for me.

Hopefully someone smarter than me can figure out how to make this work. I already gave a link to the file to p3droid a few hours ago so hopefully he's been looking into it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Santinelli:
Ok I'm feeling a little bit better now, they couldn't have fixed a million bugs going from _05.15.01 to .03 so I will be happy with my 7.893 build and .01 radio. :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
To get that new update, you have to be completely stock 886, radio, system, kernel. Apply forever root and search for it. I've heard it works and I've heard it doesn't.

As far as the ICS/kernel question (and I'm no expert) you can flash a new kernel as long as it's signed by Motorola and flashed the correct way. We are unsure of the exact upgrade path, but once we find it it would be as simple as flashing the OTA through cheesecake.

What root methods would stick through that kind of flash? No clue, but I might guinea pig.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
This phone is starting to remind me of a htc droid eris!!! Leak = beat i may call asurion in a week or so if the update is released and im still stuck or buy a GNex. Who knows what december holds for me :-) im feeling froggy might just get a new tabby instead!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moosc:
Life would be so simple of we had a full 886SBF file.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moosc:
Does any one have the ..893 radio zip?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
They can't necessarily do that with cheesecake. Because eventually the testers have to be updated to mainstream
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
Yea wish there was a full on sbf so we could restore the kernel and radio to stock.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mistawolfe:
Yep, didn't work. Lol.

The kernel held me back. Had everything else back.

Oh well, I'm sure some dev will have it working soon.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] waffleb051:
The sad thing is my little Eris has Ice Cream Sandwich ports where as my Bionic does not :( but hey i aint here to complain this phone is 100 times better than the ole Eris.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
Did Kaos strike again?!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
Kaos has been out of the eris scene for a while iirc. Cm7 was all w0rkshed and he was awesome.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] srgolub:
When 5.5.893 first came out, there were instructions on DroidForums for using the Cheesecake Apps and there was another file mentioned as available through Cheesecake called 5.5.999 which supposedly would restore the phone to stock 5.5.886. I wonder if that file would also downgrade the kernel and baseband to stock.

Does anyone have that .999 file or knows if it'll revert everything back to stock?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
how do you uninstall cheesecake version 2? i have uninstalled the app but when i goto about phone and check for system updates it starts running like i am using cheesecake and asks for me to make an account at moto but then never lets me complete anything.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] devilsrogue:
i second the need for the. 999 file. i was on 893 and reflashed to stock and now i cant upgrade or use bootstrapper...it wont let me do any custom recovery but i do have root
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mlapaglia:
http://www.box.com/shared/d19mfmjenyfdq5keu5iy#/shared/d19mfmjenyfdq5keu5iy/1/59993491/962414329/1
[Motorola Droid Bionic] PhilDX:
does this do what i think it does?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ROB281:
What is that?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moosc:
How do we know which file is what there are a couple I'm on.mobile version. And when DL it shows a bunch of numbers
[Motorola Droid Bionic] PhilDX:
well, it looks like the rumored 999 update from cheesecake to get back to stock that i read about a month or two ago, haven't tried it yet so no idea if it really works though
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mlapaglia:
I just tried it, it's only a patch not a full restore, won't do us any good.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moosc:
What did u DL
[Motorola Droid Bionic] PhilDX:
bummer, but you get an A for effort, thanks!

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mlapaglia posted a link for "Blur_Version.5.5.886-5.5.999.XT875.Verizon.en.US.zip" six posts up
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dpw2atox:
Did you try it with a 886 system and radio?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moosc:
I went to that link I DL all zip and just tried to flash in cwr and stock recovery and nothing but errors I'm running 893 kernal and 886 radio. I can't do any thing
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
I think the 999 is just a myth. I applied motos 875 update again and then used cheesecake and searched every single option for updates. Took forever. End result was that I didn't find a single update , no 999 . I too tried the 999 from stock (minus kernel being stuck on 875 version) and it fails on the kernel check. In checking the update_script in the ota it def compares md5 hashes on the boot.img and fails if its not the stock one. None of the rsdlite or sbf methods work either as the flash of boot fails the same kind of assertion check. At this point it appears those of thus that took those updates are SOL.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
I wonder if that's the case for the "soak" test only or if we are sol on the real update too. In the soak test sign up they were adamant about being bone stock. You don't think they'd hose us like that, do ya?

Their reasoning was they didn't want to have to problem solve rooted user update issues.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] das7771:
More than likely you are SOL for the OTA update. I know in the past if you own a moto device and are not bone stock you usually can not apply the update via OTA. We will probably have to wait for a way to manually update. I am sure once it is released we will have a way to upate with in a few weeks.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigeddthemonk:
Yup, he's right. In the past, at least with the dx leaks, you couldn't update via ota, you had to manualy flash. Either way I prefer roms over stock and since roms built off the next ota will come out well after the ota becomes a flashable file I see no problem.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
The only problem is that roms cannot update the kernel. that is the sole reason people are trying to find a signed boot.zip so they can get official kernel updates. Only way to update kernel is through signed moto files.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] buckmarble:
Can someone post the qpp from the OP? Link is down
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
If we could find the app moto used to sign its Apps we could just create and sign our own.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
The 999 isn't a myth. It was around on qa2 a while ago. I might have it around somewhere. The issue is it was only for test phones right before the bionic went mainstream. In terms of how people describe it being used on this thread, it is a myth. Sorry for my absence here on this thread. If anyone wants to take over this thread and my app, you can start a new, cleaner one and get my thread deleted. I can even provide all of my update files I have.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
http://db.tt/IGLw6HuN

This should be my cheesecake v2 app. I can make a more permanent link later. Or like I said if anyone wants to take this stuff over, please. Ill still help with answering problems since I've been around since our first update. Also feel free to pm me for problems you don't understand. App source is also up for grabs. Its small, poorly programmed, and simple.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Alxoom33:
phydo, what is the real status of Bionic usable OTA's? The last good update that I was able to use was 5.7.893. However, I heard of, but was never able to succefilly flash 5.5.894. I know. Hashcode posted it on his site, but apparently it is for D3 and won't boot on the Bionic. Any others that work?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
I read at df that 793 is supposedly going to be the official ota.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Alxoom33:
Did you mean to say793?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
I am on 5.7.893. I know there was a 5.8.893 update somewhere, but all it had was an updater script to remove the forever root in mountext.sh or whatever it is. As far as I'm concerned, this is fine for me. I think I have all the files dropboxed to get to 5.7.893 if anyone needs.

Oh and I had seen something about 5.5.894, but its a lower version it seems. It simply doesn't make sense. Must have been a d3 thing.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
more and more sources are pointing to 5.7.893 as the OFFICIAL ota update. So all the rumors of what will be the final release, and everyoen trying to get back to stock if they applied this. Or people trying to get to the 5.8.893, etc, seems futile at this point. 2 users buying new bionics report that there phones are on 5.7.893 out of the box. In calling motorola, they confirmed this was the most up to date version. They told me teh same thing as well.

Here's a quote from someone at droid forums:

"

For what its worth, I just bought a bionic 2 days ago and its running 5.7.893 right out of the box. No ota update."
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bigtex52:
A Moto tech told me that the .999 update is used to rectify a brick situation where an update only partially completes or is interrupted. Once an update completes successfully, the .999 won't work and if you search their servers afterwards, it doesn't even show up anymore.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
I never really cared. 5.7.893 seemed to rectify everything I needed without losing root. All I still have issues with is Bluetooth audio skipping when playing media
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Alxoom33:
Thanks, Does anyone know what the kernal, Webtop and Baseband version is on 5.7.893 ?

I show the kernal as v. 2.6.35.7-g68606e6 vwm736; the Webtop as v. WT-1.3.0-1108_DBN-21; and the Baseband version (radio) to be: CDMA_N_03.1C.57RLTEDC_U_05.15.02.

Do these conform to others with the 5.7.893 ota kernal and radio updates?

If not, what version are these from?:)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
Yes those are correct and what the official 893 update brings ur specs to
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
Does anyone have a fastboot flashable version of the webtop version that comes with 5.7.893? All my numbers match that version except my webtop. If so can you please put up a download link or at least tell me if i use the 43v3r root method to go back to stock if i can reflash the 5.7.893 update.

My version is WT-1.3.0-108_DBN-21

Trying it out now will let everyone know if this works in case someone else runs into this. So far so good on reflashing 5.7.893. Now to see which webtop and things i will have afterwards. Well at any rate this does work even though i guess i did it for nothing really since i had the correct version all along.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
Are you sure you didn't miss type the webtop version? I think WT-1.3.0-108_DBN-21 is the correct version.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Alxoom33:
Yes, it was a double key press. That, namely 108 is the version that I have, not 1108. THANKS
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
no problem didn't mean to sound rude if i did but it threw me off and made me go through a long process only to find out i didn't need to. i just hope something i did help someone out. lol :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] darkrom:
I thought I was the only one! I'd kill for a fix since I just spent the $ to add AD2P to my car.

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I'm downloading 5.8.894 is this a known update?

EDIT: Don't install 5.8.894 Will be SOL if you do. Canceled it in time.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
Nope me too I hate it.

Looks like 5.5.893 is gonna get pushed guys. Not 5.7
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
The Soak 'test' (misnomer b/c it's being sent out to ppl not on the soak list at Motorola, confirmed by at least 2 ppl at AF.com) build is, indeed, 5.5.893, and it has items in it that are older than the current 5.7.893 that most of us are on. In fact, the kernel, baseband, webtop and build IDs are identical to the original 5.5.886 --> 5.5.893 incremental build that was floating around so long ago that folks obtained from cheesecake, before the 5.7.893 full update was found. Assuming, of course, that the users at AF posting the info and screenshots are in fact receiving this update OTA. And in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20153913&postcount=13 RaidZero says that hte md5 sums match too. I've got it DLing now and I'll double verify but I think it is just the regular 5.5.893 update from so long ago. Which means that the next update pushed to us should be 5.7.893, putting all of us early adopters back on the update path.

Incidentally, though, at least one user (and many at the Motorola Private forum for Soak testers, which I'm a member of) states that the camera app is insanely fast now.

Another user at DF (and linked at AF.com) posted that after talking to a "tech supervisor in the technical assistance dept", over the phone, I assume, wrote that the updates from Moto are going from 5.5.886 --> 5.5.893 --> 5.7.893 --> 5.8.894 --> ICS, and that ICS would be available around late Jan. While I took that with a grain of salt, he also said thath te tech stated that VZW requested that the OTA that gets pushed out to VZW users as a final release contain no pre-qual checks, so that even users who have updated with the pre-release updates would still be able to update (or, in my case, downgrade lol). That part I found to be Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Alxoom33:
Not rude at all:) Sorry man if my typo made you go through all that hassle.

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I believe that if you have 5.7.893 that the new th3ry kin3tics 1.0 Rom gives you everything that is in the 894 upgrade.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
I was wondering If I.can change build.prop to 5.8.893 to check cheesecake for ics builds that would have that as the prerequisite
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
Why when i go into settings > about phone > system updates does this trigger cheesecake? how can i get this to go back to the regular/normal thing?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
5.8.894, but that guy wrote that it would not be ready until around Jan. Still, though....

Confirmed that the OTA being pushed is the original incremental update that was leaked oh so long ago. Both have the following hashes:

CRC32: 0EF1BF2A

MD5: 066E3C2393AEECB963FC950013E42A76

SHA-1: 304A2B479C80DB56DCA1A0D1E906511914D89100

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If you've played with the app and changed the update server then you'll be looking on that server.

If you have only installed the cheesecake app and done nothing else you're still on the default production server that gets normal OTA updates.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 PM ----------

If you've played with the app and changed the update server then you'll be looking on that server.

If you have only installed the cheesecake app and done nothing else you're still on the default production server that gets normal OTA updates.[/QUOTE]

so how do i go back once i have used cheesecake? is there no way to return to normal? is that is the case then our phones were broke way before this whole no signed kernel thing and trying to go back to stock before 5.7.893
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
If you've changed the server, simply change it back to Production --> master-blur.svcmot.com (it's the only one under production) and then you're pulling from the regular update server again.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] sk8tingusmc:
You are right but wanted to add that sometimes you need to reboot before you can change the server back to the production server. For example if you just found update on a server, reboot phone then redo process on cheesecake app choosing production. I hope that makes sense.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
Probably won't hurt to reboot again after the server change as well, just to be sure. I'm pretty sure this is unnecessary, but you never know.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
Interesting I didn't know this thanks.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Cvballa3g0:
How do we get on the .894 update? I sbf'ed back to stock.. 4ever rooted and installed cheesecake. Under which server is it located in?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
If you were on 5.7.893 i highly doubt your complete 5.5.886 stock. which 5.8.894 requires to install the update. more than likely you have everything back to stock except your kernel which the update will detect.

just letting you know.

by the way i think there is a download link for the update floating around in one of these forums not sure which one though.