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[General Topics] andao79:
So, as someone living and working in China, I've been super excited following up on the Xiaomi Phone. When they released the price as 2000 RMB (about $310 USD), I knew it had to be fake, or there was some serious funny business. The numbers just don't add up.

Engadget recently had a review of the Xiaomi phone and had it benchmarking near the Galaxy S 2 in several tests, so I think it makes sense to compare these two:

SGS 2 Advantages: Super AMOLED screen; 4.3 inch screen (vs 4 inch); forward facing camera; 1080p video recording (vs 720p); onboard storage (16 GB vs 4 GB); slightly smaller footprint.

Xiaomi Advantages: Price; processor speed (1.5 Ghz vs 1.2); battery (1930 mAh vs 1650); GLONASS and GPS tracking; highly customizable UI out of the box.

In China, the SGS2 retails for about 4300 RMB (about $670 USD). So how does a phone which is in the SGS2's ballpark retail for less than half the price?

It gets even more peculiar. Here are some questions Xiaomi hasn't cleared up(or at least I haven't seen their responses yet):

1) Xiaomi uses a Qualcomm processor and a LCD screen from Sharp (Japanese import). So they can't be using local parts to save costs, how are they able to offer the phone at only $310?

2) Local competitors like Huawei and ZTE who have much more experience in manufacturing (and much more leverage with suppliers) have yet to produce a phone remotely like this. Also, their closest local competition in terms of specs is something like the Huawei Honor, a single core phone that retails for about $400. Yet Xiaomi, which has never produced hardware before is getting better deals than these guys on components? Samsung also does component development in-house, but Xiaomi is getting better pricing than Samsung?

3) Xiaomi was originally a software developer. How did they pull a piece of impressive hardware like this out of nowhere?

4) Why retail for $310? They could sell it for $500 and it would still be way cheaper than an SGS2. Hell, I paid more than 2000 RMB for the crappy 2 year old Nokia I'm still using over here.

My Chinese is OK so I've been trying to read more on the Xiaomi forums, but I haven't really gotten any new information, other than there's something like 300,000 preorders already. I figure there's got to be some serious funny business going on. Probably:

a) ridiculous free loans and/or development assistance from the government to built up national prestige; or

b) copying another phone's internals verbatim; or

c) fake components of some kind

It looked really smooth in the Engadget video, so I'm inclined to be believe it's option A. Good for consumers I guess, but probably lousy if you're a Chinese taxpayer. Any ideas on why the price is so low?
[General Topics] vetvito:
Smaller companies tend to do these kind of things.

However I'm interested as well.
[General Topics] SophT:
I believe that it's one part 'a' and another that generally huawei and zte have primarily been marketed for export (to SE Asia, India, EU) but the government is really trying to subsidize local start ups to fight imports (like HTC, Sony, etc...) and get Chinese to spend their money on Chinese things. But if a Chinese phone were 3000 RMB and a Korean or Japanese phone was also 3000 RMB, no one would get the Chinese phone for obvious reasons.
[General Topics] investmenttechnology:
so basically you just made up a thread without any evidence and full of speculation accusing Xiaomi not being legit.
[General Topics] AllGamer:
india are making ARM Cortex 9 phones with 4 GB for only $35

if they can do it, so can china

lol :D
[General Topics] CallMeVentus:
Mmmhmm .

I don't why people have so much comments , no offence though .

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[General Topics] Xiaomo:
I support you , and do your know meizu'M9 or MX?
[General Topics] iphon1234:
hehe

it is good for everyone. thank you!
[General Topics] cdesai:
Seriously? :D
[General Topics] AllGamer:
yes, there is a post with the pictures and spec here in the forum

aprox 5 days old

it's made for the india school system
[General Topics] JU83:
Hi it's my first post and I have no exact figures to support this other than a simple comparison to another industry.

I remember hearing from someone that the mark up on mobile phones (this was a while ago) was a few hundred percent. Remember that it doesn't cost 800 dollars to make a phone and the people that usually make it in third world manufacturing companies or places with poor working conditions only get paid a few dollars an hour to make your 800 dollar phones.

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My comparison industry is optometry. The following information comes from someone I know who is an optometrist:

"Frames like Gucci and Prada cost $3 per frame to make. In the stores you pay $500 dollars to buy them. That is an insane mark up. However they can't retail it cheaper because of an agreement in place to prevent the devaluation of the brand."

I am sure the same thing happens in the cell phone industry.

Just thought that this might put the legitimacy of the phone in perspective.

Thanks for your time.
[General Topics] exb0:
I'd get the M9 or M9x ( or something.. Quad Core? HELLOOOOO )

I don't see why someone would get a device ONLY for Miui, most phones out there have a build of MIUI.
[General Topics] xaccers:
You really think that $600 phone costs $600 to make?

The markup on electrical goods from brand names can be over 200%
[General Topics] andao79:
My point is not really related to the idea of a markup, I KNOW all cell phones have a dramatic markup, and I read not long ago an iPhone 4 costs about $180 to make, while they retail for something like $600 out of contract.

I'm more interested in a) How did this company come out of nowhere with this sort of hardware? and b) They don't NEED to sell it for 2000 RMB for it to be a hit. They could have sold it for $400-450 and it would have still been a hell of a lot cheaper than a Galaxy S 2.

That, coupled with the fact that the big guns in China (Meizu, Huawei, ZTE) are not even in the same ballpark with specs or price, is really weird.

If i can demo one and it works well, i'll definitely pick one up, but there must be some serious funny business behind the scenes.
[General Topics] xaccers:
Why must there be funny business?
[General Topics] PlanDreaM:
Well, you can build a cheap phone if you want.

The question is: can you sell it cheap?

Operating costs, brand advertisement etc. They have no problem there, they just build a phone having no ad space on western media.They can do it, they are smart enough.Plus: we enthusiasts are their advertisement plan, we buy it for cheap, all our friends will buy it.

It's a win win scenario.My 2 eurocents.
[General Topics] russ18uk:
The issue is risk. Do you risk spending $300 on a new unknown brand or do you spend $450 on a noname brand when you can get a well known brand for $600?

There is obviously going to be a greater curve of buyers the lower the price you go and finding the balance is where your marketers need mettle. I think the current price is going to be very good to get users into buying the phone. Obviously, if they can become the new HTC, their markup is going to increase hugely.

My concern is going to be: at ~$300, what is the customer service going to be like? HTC's is mediocre here in the UK, but if Vodafone, Orange et al resell this phone, it's going to be VERY attractive to us as the carriers are held responsible until end of warranty.
[General Topics] xaccers:
Just to clarify, the retailer is responsible until you have had a reasonable amount of use out of it irrespective of warranty :)

The law doesn't care about warranties, they're in the best case an agreement that the device will be repaired without the need to take legal action, and in the worst case used to illegally convince consumers they have no rights.

Take my Sensation, afaik it has a 12month warranty.

Say the screen dies after 18 months, I'll be demanding O2 repair or replace it otherwise I'll be contacting trading standards as being a phone provided on a 24 month contract I should be able to expect it to last at least 24 months and more especially considering the price when new.

I love being a consumer in the UK :D
[General Topics] kerwin_pig:
yes~ Meizu much better than xiaomi
[General Topics] exb0:
WHY DID YOU DIG UP OLD THREADS
[General Topics] youris1212:
Sources for Mi2 are released, so I think they are legit.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkfanar:
my friend was receiving error 80004005 while trying to update to mango

and one of the solution been told is to reflash phone rom with official version

and i don't know how to do so

can any one help me with noob guide on how to do so

thank you
[General Questions and Answers] DrewMullen:
I am looking to get my computer to a point where i can set up auto syncing my music library to my phone. Sadly, over the years ive accrued quite a few double files... any known/trusted applications that will sift through directories to find double file entries? I dont mind paying a few bucks if its a good one.

thanks
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] takaru:
Please make Thread HTC Droid Incredible 2 Use GSM Mod . So sorry , my English very bad . I and all memmer want to find rom for HTC Droid Incredible 2 Use GSM with new sense and app from HTC . Please ....
[TouchPad Accessories] JDevil:
So, I picked up a touchstone charger to go with my touchpad. I also have the phone touchstone charger modded to work with my Incredible. I'm curious to know if the the touchstone for the touchpad uses the same induction pieces as in the phone<->touchstone charger (phone end specifically). I would like to charge my kindle with the touchstone charger, but do not want test with either my phone or the kindle. If this is the case, the touchpad charger could be made quite useful to many things. Thanks.
[TouchPad Accessories] ponyboy82:
I'm not sure how realistic it is, but this article was just on Engadget....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/touchstone-mod-blesses-samsung-epic-4g-touch-with-inductive-char/
[TouchPad Accessories] JDevil:
Ah yes. I've done this for my phone. My question is, will the touchpad version work with the same part that goes into the phone for the kindle? Something tells me the amperage is going to be higher in the touchpad version, thus killing the 1.0a for charging phones or the kindle.
[TouchPad Accessories] mattmartin77:
i have a powermat inductive charging pad with a door for my old dx. i tried the charger with my tp but it doesnt work. I dont think there is a difference between that and the powermat
[TouchPad Accessories] Silver_172:
hi because I wanted to use all web os on my touchpad I decided to buy the pre 3 there is a different dock to buy , and if I look at the back of the pre 3 there's like a cell that revives power from the touchstone and then charges the battery if this even helps think there will need to build in a reciver like in the pre3 to then send power to the battery and like on the power mat they also have case that revives power for the iphone 3

dunno if this helps anyone
[Kindle Fire General] da.trute:
Hi, can anyone point me in the direction of the CPU/GPU specs for this, I know it isnt tergra so it might actually be able to handle some decent video specs.
[Kindle Fire General] freonchill:
most say that its the ti omap 4 series processor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP#OMAP_4

as there is only one model @ 1ghz in the 4 series, its the OMAP 4430

CPU 1-1.2 GHz Dual-Core ARM Cortex-A9

GPU PowerVR SGX540 @ 304 MHz

thats my guess
[Kindle Fire General] xopher.hunter:
I want it!!!!! That's the gpu in my epic and it still tops smartbench 2011 in gaming performance!
[Kindle Fire General] smackdownn:
actually in epic its clocked to 200mhz and in the latest omap processor the sgx540 is clocked to 300mhz ;) i have it in my optimus 3d and its the fastest GPU right now in a smartphone!
[Kindle Fire General] xopher.hunter:
That extra 100mhz will go towards driving the extra resolution on the screen so your optimus 3d most likely will still be slightly better than the fire but should be the same as my epic
[Kindle Fire General] da.trute:
shame its not going to have HDMI as those specs should be able to play FULL HD in High profile, still well with the money if we can get some decent cooked ROMS, definately keeping an eye on forum.
[Kindle Fire General] rushless:
As the Archos 80 G9 has proven, the 4430 can play hi def video well, but Archos made special drivers to support the codecs. I doubt the Fire will have them. Higher def vid plays weak on the Droid 3 and Playbook. Especially MKV 720p.

That all said, what is the point, since no storage space? Unless going to store a few vids, there is only a few gigs (literally) of open storage for media and no card slot.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] passeuser:
Hello.

Does anyone knows how to put costume tone in text messages or email?

Thank you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rotterdam:
I have very strange

issue ! It does not matter, what I flash.After clean install= task29 , radio 2.15,,,,,magldr113, CWM - partition , and after normal installation - ROM zip file -from sd card

it stuck at boot-12345,,,,,go go go,,, And ...boot-loop !I have tryed differend CWM 3....0 , 4...0 but the result, is the same.

Btw,I can boot - magldr-SD Android,and go back to WM 6.5 and fire SD Android.Evry ,advice is appreciable !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
Are you sure you're flashing the correct partition size for clockworkmod ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rotterdam:
I'm doing this for a year now and i'm pretty sure that i'm doing the right thing.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisrj28:
Which rom are you attempting to flash?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rotterdam:
I've tried almost every NAND Rom.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
Just to be on the safe side, do you have any bad blocks? (Since you're an expert, I don't think a wrong partition size is the issue)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rotterdam:
I'm not really an expert, but i know one or two. As i said, it allows to me flash WP7, but i can't move to Android NAND and it's been this way for a week now. And i had to go back to WP 6.5 and #tytung# 3.1 SD card rom.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] hXc71:
To the Theme Developers:

Can u made a Beats Audio by Dr. Dre theme 4 us. It will be different and 4 people like me that love Beats. :p

Here a screenshots of someone that start to make one 4 Sensation.

And here's a theme already done 4 Sensation:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17818515&postcount=1

Waiting 4 answers.

Thx to all ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Gtj94:
This is exactly what I'm looking forward to! Was hoping for a 'code red there's update to match my beats look :D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] sambaeallegria:
I'm looking for it too 'cause I'm not able to do that by myself.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] trh1341:
Please someone pick this up! I will try myself but I don't really know how
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mohit1234:
Well I could port it to our DHDs, but first I'll have to ask permission from the developer of the theme - killathenoob. If he is fine with it I'll port it :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] hXc71:
Oh please, i think he doesn't mind. :p
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mohit1234:
Lol... Sorry mate, but I prefer to take permission from the developer before using any of his work. I've sent him a PM, and as soon as he replies I'll let you know :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] hXc71:
But remember to port this theme 4 RCMix3d Runnymede by capy.

Thx bro ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] rayford85:
I'm working on porting this now for sense 3.0 this theme cannot be fully ported to any sense 3.5 roms because of limitations with m10 tools. Until m10 tools are updated for sense 3.5 you can't mod fusion.apk(which gives us the over all look of the theme) sorry but that's all we can do for now

Edit here's a teaser pic of the port. Fusion apk. Is done you can see the dock icons and the clock in this shot.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] B. East:
Can this theme be ported to dhd stock rom 2.3.3. sense 2.1? looks very good, would like it on my phone
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mohit1234:
Oh ok cool. Looking good so far :)

Sure, if rayford85 is porting it to sense 3.0, ill port it to sense 2.1 :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] B. East:
That would be great
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] R3dF1v3:
Just wondering what the system info applet is called (next to the Talk icon)?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] rayford85:
Its called temp + CPU pro.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] marek1:
MS wrote that in chipset driver missing Wifi tethering support.

Will someone to add this support for our HD2 or at least make suppurt for Mango in DFrouter ?

Thanks for info.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] DomZ:
Some reports says that some device wifi chipset could not support this feature, so before trying to add something in driver, guys need to check if the chipset itself supports that.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rustybob:
Does anyone know what chipset our HD2s have? The Broadcom 4329 chipset is required for tethering support. (As per this Ars Technica article: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/09/mango-wifi-sharing-to-have-hardware-driver-and-carrier-restrictions.ars)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] marek1:
well HTC HD2 use QSD8250 chipset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

Will someone add the tethering feature to our HD2 ?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Robbie P:
Correct, but it also has BCM 4329 there are pics here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=624331

I think someone has mentioned somewhere here that tethering is available in mango but it is carrier activated.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Hagenlund:
I just hopped on a great offer of free unlimited data from my carrier, and would really love some of that sweet, sweet wifi tethering.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Robbie P:
LOL Dual boot with Android is your solution ATM

Edit; just found this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1271253, looks tricky but might be worth a go
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] malsehn:
wifi tethering with hd2 MUST be possible cause with winmo6.5 it was ;) (w-lan-router in comm-manager...) so at least the hardware must be compatible...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] marek1:
But nobody knows if the support is written in WP7 drivers for HD2.

Or someone knows it ?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] unubtanium:
IS it possible to do as described in this thread even if it is for a different device?? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1233612 ??
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Robbie P:
AFAIK your linked thread says it requires WP7 root tools, which is not available for HTC devices at the moment.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] unubtanium:
OKi, tnx for clarifying that for me. :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Ok, I've seriously messed it up this time.. I think I partitioned the internal drive by accident or whatever it was I pressed while thinking I knew what I was pressing (sunlight on the screen..) , Now at boot it says

"PwrReason: SW_AP_Reset

No OS detected, going to RSD Mode in 5 seconds"

and it gives me the options to choose everything from RSD to BP Tools. I try to choose Android Recovery or Boot Android & it gives Magic Value Mismatch: Reading ODM fuse: 1

I can only pull battery and choose either RSD or Fastboot. I suppose I cannot flash an SBF in RSD because then it's definitely be bricked..

WTF have I done..?!?!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Flashed Romracers's latest CWM. It's now stuck at "Entering Android Recovery Mode"..

I'm thinking of flashing the 1.2.6 sbf and start from there, ain't sure if it will brick it though..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swiftks:
Don't flash a earlier sbf if you were unlocked on 2.3.4... you will surely be bricked then. If you were on 2.3.4, then you could try flashing the gingerbread sbf again. Have you tried fastboot -w?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phalanx7621:
Flashing the gingerbread .sbf will be fine as long as yer on GINGERBREAD, any earlier .sbf isn't recommended.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Ow, I thought it was only the 1.8.3 that was a problem.

Am downloading the Gingerbread-4.5.91.zip Will I do that through fastboot?

I've erased everything, can do that in fastboot. It just doesn't load into anything else but RSD (I think) & fastboot. "No OS detected" and then the "Available Modes" are listed. Fckng nightmare..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phalanx7621:
If yer downloading the .sbf, no. You'll extract the .zip and use RSD lite to flash the file inside it. Atleast that's what I do.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
I am using the instructions here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163342 but don't get anywhere. After reboot I'm back to step 1.

Do you know where I can find the gingerbread SBF to flash by RSD?

P.S. Attached the screen it goes to as soon as I hit power, never seen it before..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Tried to flash the Gingerbread SBF through RSD, crashed at first (and made me kiss 400€ goodbye).. Thought I'd try once more...AND IT WORKED!!!!! At least it boots & starts!

Now though, it seems like the bottom part of the screen or perhaps just the 4 buttons are dead. And the drop down bar doesn't go down so that upper part is messed up as well. It seems the screen is borked. It also flashes quickly past the motoblur screen & takes me to the emergency call screen.

Anyone has a clue..?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnMacky:
I have this problem yesterday exactly same as yours! Lol anyways, the problem is that your pds partition got deleted. So what you need to do is to follow the instructions here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1131649

Do the moto-fastboot step, its more easier than adb. Hope I helped! Don't forget to thank me buddy :) lol
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
I've been there already, it doesn't flash it. I even have my own PDS image saved, it won't flash though..

P.S. Am unlocked.

Edit: 7 hours and a lot of sweat later, it's all back to normal. Thank you for your help guys!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtlePlatypus:
Currently running 1.5 The Dark Side Rom on my ATRIX. I thought installing a rom would help fix the problems, it didn't... there's about a 5cm thick line on the top half of the screen that doesn't respond, as well, the fingerprint scanner is laggy and unresponsive to the point of unusability, as a less prominent problem, proximity sensing apps and certain tasker scripts stop working after a while ... what's wrong?

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PakaPakaxz:
Do a full wipe (dalvik, cache, data) with latest recovery, install latest radio and the ROM again.

If you need to, update your bootloader pudding.

And try using the phone without restoring any data with titanium backup.

links:

Recovery - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1204500 (ROM MANAGER recovery is good too)

Radio - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163009

ROM - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1222108

Pudding - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1136261

*Extra FULL WIPE if you want to use: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17656035&postcount=5

** After all that make sure you update to latest kernel - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtlePlatypus:
would this help even if i had the problem when i was the bootloader was still locked and i was on stock?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PakaPakaxz:
I don't know ... maybe you need to give it back to store for fix.

But if you already unlocked your bootloader, give it a try ...