yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
oooooooooooookay

NOW things are clear. Whats happened is your boot sector has become corrupted most likely due to the 'ICS' on your phone. What you see on your phone is the initial splash screen which indicates that your phone is unlocked IE can have custom firmware loaded on it. Follow the guide I posted and root your phone. Nothing catastrophic or sinister is going on here. You just got a random reboot and got stuck in a bootloop.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbm21:
Wait... sorry if this is dumb... but if he just disables wifi and puts the phone on airplane mode Google wont be able to do anything

.. right?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lynyrd65:
Edit: He knows his stuff and I appologise for calling that into question. However, I would still wait.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazednconfused:
Oh no, I watched porn while eating an ice cream sandwich, I hope Google doesn't wipe my phone as well.

Sent from my super sleek NS4G, powered by TeamNekkid.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
i can't disable wifi or put the phone in airplane mode.

i can't do anything on the phone at all
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
You just have to hope that its on. Chances are you'll be fine since your bootloader is already unlocked you just need to really flash a new recovery.

I wrote a guide on rooting the NS on a mac that has <22,000 views but okay don't believe me simply because I haven't written a ROM and make this poor confused guy not use his phone until someone else comes and tells you that this is ridiculous. I'm promising you all that Google would NOT do what you think they are doing. As of yet they have only flipped their "master switch" to force remove apps on KNOWN MALICIOUS APPS. As for being able to force an OTA...? That would require a LOT of information including your current IP, phone number, etc...stuff google doesn't necessarily have.

But since he's in such great hands already I'm going to stop offering my extensive knowledge and insight and let you professional spooks fix it for him. Peace.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lynyrd65:
Sorry, I didn't know who you were. I get excited and jump to conclusions with stuff like this. I appologize. I will edit my post.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
guys, i'm going to eat, will be back in an hour or two.

hopefully there'll be a consensus on what I should do.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
Wait, I'm completely lost. I thought you just posted the ICS video. Now you apparently have ICS. WHO ARE YOU! L O L!.

If you have "ics" on your phone; I'm leaning towards it's a bad build and you just got a bootloop, lol. But what do I know.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmaner:
Don't flash a new recovery.

If this is a real ICS then the recovery you want to flash doesn't support your kernel and then no boot.

So just wait till somebody can help you out.

Or knows that flashing a new recovery won't harm your kernel

Sent from my GT-I9100 using CyanogenMod7
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rob61280:
if you pull the battery, put it back in then press the power button while holding volume up your phone will boot into fastboot mode. With any luck you'll be able to execute fastboot commands from your mac over usb with the phone in this state, from there you'll be able to flash a custom recovery, dump the rom and reset your phone.

Can you get into fastboot mode?

Edit you should also be able to dump the rom from the mac, using the guides posted above.

Better still if anyone lives near by that knows what to do, give the man a hand :-)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
If you want to see if the phone is stuff somewhat functional.

1) power it down.

2) Press and hold the up volume key

3) press the power button. It should boot into the bootloader screen

from there you can boot into the recovery and see if that works.

you could restore to factory defaults from within the recovery. But I'm not sure if you want to try that just yet. Just seeing if recovery boots would be helpful.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thiagodark:
i want to believe!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
How did it get on the phone in the first place? lol. Don't you have the zip you installed to share with everyone? lol.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
i'm the guy that shot the video, yes i have the phone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lynyrd65:
I hope a dev can weigh in on this soon.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thiagodark:
do you have anything else that is not in the video?! like a picture or another video...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jknvv13:
U, traitor!

He's not saying the truth.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jknvv13:
U got PM.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
And how did you originally get it on there?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
And compiled it on one of Google's computers right? Not one single rom or phone currently out there has a 3.x kernel yet btw.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] X1111:
by my mind this thread can't help anyone !
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
No one is but the fact that people are still skeptical is annoying that was obviously ics GB does not work with 3.0 kernel does not even work with it that has been said an people keep pulling excuses out of there ass
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xephik:
DAMMIT. IM SO MAD. This guy lives in Suffolk County LI... so do I. If I was reading this thread last night I was pretty much a half hour away no matter where he was.

If the OP is still out there, hows the browser/SMS app? Did they get rid of the ugly white/cyan color of the SMS app?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] di11igaf:
Not that I'm saying this is fake, it actually looks like waaaaaay too much work for that to be a theme, but you can edit the kernel source before its compiled to make it say whatever version you want.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith.macdonald:
Google is guilty of felony wiretapping & breaking & entering

By my reckoning, Google is now guilty of criminal wiretapping, AND breaking and entering (I don't know if you recall the court decision not long ago in which someone was found guilty of trespassing and/or breaking and entering for using someone's wireless router without permission).

What in God's name could make Google POSSIBLY think that it could hack into someone's private computer like that (that's what his phone IS), and VANDALIZE it in such a way?

If they think that this guy has something that belongs to them, then they have go through the frigging courts, just like everybody else. They don't have the right to take the law into their own hands.

I'm getting real sick of Google, and some of the crap that they have been up to in recent years, and this just takes the cake, as far as I'm concerned. I'm livid, here, folks. I can't believe that they did this.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archer:
You're not the only one.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9mmpistol:
Is it just me that is suspicious that the eBay seller nicked the phone? That would be my first thought when seeing a mobile sold with a non original charger. Plus all the other random stuff he has been selling.

Could have got crazy lucky and pinched someones developer phone and not even realised. Would explain why Google were happy to wipe it completely without consulting the guy. Just a random thought, don't mean to throw about accusations!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
I said it before (and so did Simms22) and I'll say it again: All of what we saw could easily have been faked with a little know-how. People have gone to much further lengths for pranks and as for the whole "his phone was remotely locked" as the engadget article now reads...that is a misnomer. His phone was not remotely locked. It bootlooped and got stuck on the google splashscreen which if you're bootloader is unlocked has a picture of a lock slightly unlocked. Many people could mistake that for a closed lock but it is not. All we have for "proof" is a developers statement that its real and that /system was remotely wiped. I've written a few guides that a lot of people use and that were very helpful. If I say that my butt is made of solid gold and it got that way after Angelina Jolie kissed it, does that make it true? No.

I'm not saying we shouldn't investigate this. I'm not saying that dev was lying. I'm not even saying that the OP was lying. I'm just asking that people think before they freak out. No, I'm not trolling (as others have indicated those of us still skeptical are). I'm just questioning whether or not the story makes sense:

There have been hundreds of other software leaks and not ONCE has Google or any other software contributor remote wiped a phone. Yes, there is software out there that will perform a remote wipe, but executing any commands on /system requires superuser privileges and I'm a bit doubtful that Google can flip a switch and kill your phone. They DO have the power to remote force uninstall apps and that HAS been used...in the case of malicious apps. And only a very small handful of times.

If they DID remote wipe an open source device I'm pretty sure the folks over at the Open Source Consortium would be a little more angry since that sort of control goes against the whole idea of open source not to mention the whole democratic party since the ability to remote wipe your personal phone is a pretty ****ing MASSIVE infringement on a persons privacy.

My final piece of damning evidence is a personal opinion: Its hideous. Not only that having that little bright bar on the notif drop down could cause some pretty bad burn in which was the whole reason to the switch to a black notif bar and taking AM/PM off the clock. Why add things that could cause it back in? Oh and remember how honeycomb and leaked photos of the Prime didn't have hardware buttons? You really think they made the OS in two versions so that one works on phones with and one without or would it make more sense that there was just some overlap in the functionality. I'm betting the functionality one. Because that makes sense.

Believe its real, believe its fake, believe Santa comes to eat cookies and unicorn blood makes you immortal. I don't care but don't call people offering logical conclusions that make more sense than the massive conspiracy theories trolls. Or else the Ancient aliens that build the pyramids and embedded lasers in the Siberian perma-frost will come and get you.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xephik:
It's an unreleased and likely unfinished version of ICS. Say you're sculpting a work of art and you come home one day and its gone. You go into town and its on display in the town square. The edges are rough, parts aren't done, you have smudgy coffee stained sketches of the final product scotch tapped on the side... would you want people to see it?

Google doesn't want this leaked. Maybe a little bit here and there when they want to refresh the public's mind and remind them to wait for it. But overall, they want to do the unveiling. They want to get the press. They want everyone to do the "oooohhhs" and "ahhhhs" during and after the event.

It sucks that this guys phone is/was borked. Thank god he has knows XDA exists and will likely have a working stock GB Nexus S by the end of the night. The one critique I have of Google is that there should be some way of wiping this then an auto update to the latest released version of Android, because if it was just some schmuck who didn't know anything, it would hurt the guys perception of Android/the Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
It actually would make sense that they would have a build to be used on previous phones that have hardware (or capacitive) buttons at the bottom, and another build for future devices with software buttons. Remember it doesn't have to be a completely different build. Just a few changes gets rid of soft buttons and allows normal hardware buttons to be used.

We know that at least the Nexus S (probably Nexus One also) will be getting ICS, as well as several other recent phones. There's no reason why these phones wouldn't be able to run it and I'm sure Google plans on it. Its in their best interest to have a build made for the previous devices with hardware buttons.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Funny you should mention art...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Tate:_An_American_Artist_1928-1960
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith.macdonald:
For the sake of argument, I am willing to give Google the benefit of the doubt; HOWEVER, if it comes out that they DID access this guy's phone and wipe it without permission then I don't know about you, but, personally, I am going to be calling for heads on platters. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the neither the FBI nor the police chose to get involved. After all, they've done NOTHING with regards to those Apple employees that impersonated police officers in an effort to retrieve that missing iPhone 5.

I'm pretty sure though that the likes of the EFF are going to be MOST interested in what happened, and they DO carry sufficient weight to FORCE a criminal investigation of Google. This stands to be a PR sh1t storm for Google, and rightly so. I'm still just... incredulous at this. If you could see me, you'd know just how blown my mind is at their actions. I'm just... amazed that they thought that this was alright...

As to whether or not it was a legit build of ICW: assuming that Google DID remote wipe the phone, then I think that we can safely assume that it WAS legit. After all, why would they wipe it if it weren't legit? And why wipe it of the cat's already out of the bag? Furthermore, assuming that the phone WAS wiped remotely, why in the world would they risk felony prosecution for wiretapping, possible B&E charges, PR backlash, and a lawsuit? Also, why would the poster risk a defamation suit from Google, by publicly stating that Google has done something so egregious, unless they ACTUALLY did? I suppose that he could be mistaken, but come on, folks: how likely is that? I mean, how often does an Android phone suddenly just do what this guy's did? It makes perfect sense that Google DID remotely wipe it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arczangel:
hope someone can help this guy physically and have dump or nand back up his device before anything else get lost ! this is a chance which we may never get another luck...:(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mykenyc:
Not only that, why would Google really need to remote wipe this? I mean seriously, when the iPhone 4 got lost in a bar, that was an actually prototype new phone and a new OS that we had verified evidence that it was legit. This is a someone who bought it off ebay, showed a 2 minute video of absolutely nothing and again, i agree, this looks horrid. Each iteration of Android Google made it look somewhat different, albeit donut and froyo wasn't that much different in look, but hiring that guy forgot his name just to take honeycomb look and for a year completely not add anything constructive to design that looks eye candy is weird to me. The leaked before pictures showed a custom rom signal bar that Google **never** uses:

which looks similar to:

I also used a roms that had signal bars the exact same.

Now this video have exactly the similar icon in the ice cream launcher have:

Now people are saying they look complete different, while i agree, what i find very very interesting is the movement of the position of the icons in the old leaked pictures to the video (yes it could be different builds, but come on) and also that all of these can shown to be able to be made by a developer (the person who made the alpha ice cream sandwich launcher) and look how easy it was for a developer to mimic a supposed launcher. I'm not ruling that this isn't legit, but as a skeptic, i agree with the person above, there is literally nothing really constructive to this design, this makes me eye windows phone 7 design even more (not getting the device just saying i believe Google can do better than this). My whole thing is, why would Google need to wipe this, that would not only give them up as to this being real, but if the person having the device really wanted to expose more he could have, yet he didn't.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
Well guys we cant do anything about it because we cant figure out what to do because you have to google what to do next an google wont let us google if what they did is legal

---------- Post added at 07:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:42 PM ----------

The launcher is not the same i have used it u scroll up an down not left to right an the app draw opener is in the middle an the apps that are in multitasking menu are not the same as video an the ones that are on there stay the same all the time an if you look at camera icon on the video look at image it shows last thing he did that is impossible to fake
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Too long not responding to most, but the ability to remotely wipe it is publicly known, and available for anyone to inspect. Dont like it?

A) dont use android

or

B) dont set it up

or

C) edit it out

It was previously setup for whoever actual owned this phone, this was a "lost/stolen" item that shouldn't of been sold. Basically, whoever sold it to the OP committed a crime.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Read the thread.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
...First off, editing code for buttons isn't like a few keystrokes. Its massive. Thats why phones with different buttons don't generally have roms ported between them. I never said old phones wouldn't get ICS, I just said it makes more sense that google would allow for there to be some redundancy in functionality rather than building a completely different version of an OS.

Haha WOW. Nice. "I'm just going to ignore what you said because you wrote it thoughtfully in complete sentences." +1 to that. Glad to know that 543 words is far too much for you to comprehend. As far as remote wiping...yes, many corporations DO have ways of remote wiping contacts, SD cards, and any other sensitive information. Also, it is well known that Google has the ability to remotely remove APPLICATIONS from your phone. I'm guessing that press release was just too long for you to read.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
It was not legally his, I don't see how no one understand it.

Its no different then buying a PC from someone on ebay, that turns out to be stolen, and the original owner remotes in and removes sensitive data (happens more than you think).

The op simply got ripped off, someone was dishonest down the line in the "custody" of this phone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfalgout2003:
How is this damning evidence? If you did any research on ICS, then you would know that Google is designing it work on phones AND tablets. To do this, they are including the ability to use either software or hardware buttons. So to test a phone with hardware buttons, why not use the Google Nexus S, and to test it with software buttons, the Nexus Prime.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
And if you could READ you would understand english. I said that it would make much more sense in terms of amount of code to simply have the same functionality built into the OS for both types of devices. This means having some redundancy in terms of functionality on legacy devices while still allowing future devices to continue their development.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith.macdonald:
Do we know this to be true? Has Google confirmed it? I guess that I should read the whole thread...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whitekidney:
so... if i get this right

OP bought a phone off ebay

phone had ice cream sandwich

OP thought that there was a ICS rom in circulation (because he had it on his phone)

then OP leaks a video to engadget?

okay..

yeah...

also

Okay, so first of all.

Oh, ok, so.. why did you tell Engadget about it?

But you knew immediately that you had a unreleased version?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
All they have to do is link the hardware buttons to the software ones, and just hide them on devices previously made which have hard buttons...

I'm not trying to make it sound extremely trivial or something, but lets get real and understand that there will most definitely be ICS updates for at least some older devices that have hard buttons and that they're clearly thinking about this.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfalgout2003:
You said you are betting...AKA you don't know, so I confirmed your suspicions. But you are posting assumptions to disprove other assumptions. If you don't believe it's ICS, that's fine. Don't come posting ASSUMPTIONS AND OPINIONS to prove your beliefs. IF you have facts disproving it is indeed not ICS with screenshots of ICS on your phone, then I'll listen to you and all of the other speculators.

We're 12 days away from the truth, so the likely hood that it was leaked just 12 days before the actual presser is highly likely. I personally hope that it looks EXACTLY like what was shown in the video so I can wait for the babbling haters to post they were wrong.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunden:
If it was stolen property, the fact that he bought it would still wouldn't make it his or give him any rights whatsoever. The fact that he couldn't know wouldn't change that. It's not been confirmed that it was thoughas far as I know, it's just speculation.

It has been confirmed that it was ICS though from the ramdisk. I guess it simply didn't wipe /boot.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith.macdonald:
Absolutely, which is why we need to confirm whether it was stolen. If so, then as Archie from A Fish Called Wanda said, "Yes, well, obviously that changes things a bit...":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OmkgoJi3v8

;-)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subprime:
So lets say that I lose my phone. And that my phone has a security app which allows me to remotely disable, wipe and/or in anyway make the phone non-functional. And someone finds my phone and they decide to keep it or lets say they decide to sell it or give it to a friend. You are saying that if I activate that software and disable the phone then I should be prosecuted for wiretapping and possible B&E charges?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llMll:
Airplane mode then image the phone...send the image to us over at xda and we'll fix it (moderators)...problem solved
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Yay I said "betting" once so clearly all of my statements are based entirely in assumption and not just the one in which I used that statement! You don't like logical arguments then...well actually I don't care what you do because if you're not interested in logical argument you're probably not the kind of person I would like to talk to so do whatever you want. Who cares. Others stated their opinions, I stated mine. You can't say that one person can't post their opinion just because it doesn't jive with yours. I just think people should apply some reason to their outbursts before freaking out about a privacy invasion of this supposed size.

How could a company under extreme scrutiny in both the US and across the world because of anti-trust allegations get away with building a back door into phones that could cause unknowing customers to have their personal data altered in any way shape or form? They couldn't. Especially since its OPEN SOURCE. Every one has the legal right to see its code. If this was a "known part of Android" it would be a huge deal. Just like it was when Google announced they could delete your apps. But its not. Common sense people. Its not hard.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith.macdonald:
Obviously not. The only way that that would be a comparable scenario is if, as has been speculated in this thread, Google owns the phone, and it actually was stolen; however, as far as I know, that's all that it is: speculation. See my previous comments.