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[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Google support sucks

So I got a reply from Google. This is how their support works. Really. I believed that what wasn't prohibited was allowed, but google decided to kick this off "because we say so". To all mods, and people in the dev community - this should be read by all devs. Your app could be just gaining attention and then bam! google might nuke it even if your app follows the rules. Why are there any rules if google doesn't follow them?

Anyway this are the email log:

But that wasn't an exact citation of Content Policy, the exact citation states that applications that cause user to

unknowingly

download or install applications from sources outside of google are prohibited. But my application wasn't doing that - you had to push the DOWNLOAD & INSTALL button so it was surely willing action. That's why I've written this email:

So I was also asking for a phone number or a call to make this work ASAP. But days go by, so I wrote another email to hurry things up a bit.

And finally after 5 days I got this great response:

So I might loose my account and also they didn't tell me what was wrong in the first place. No phone number or anything. Just try again maybe this time it will be fine. But beware - you might loose your account. This is great support.

To sum up. Your app might be compliant with content policy and yet be removed by google without any reason. They will not tell you what the reason is, they will not tell you how to contact them. Nor they will suggest how to make things go from now on. And reponse time of 5 days is just unbelievable. They will wish you best of luck next time, but they might remove your account if they wish so.

I think all devs should read this post. It's not whether this app should or shouldn't be on the play store, it's whether google should respect their own rules or not. Anyone supporting my work should ask goog why they did this. Making this post appear on the front page of XDA might bring more attention to this issue.

I'm going to post just a "donate" application on the Play store today and release WiFiKill Downloader on my own site. I will also add Paypal as an option in next few days. So anyone worrying about this - Keep Calm and check for updates in the next hours :)

Edit:

I've sent this email and I'm waiting for a response (wonder how long will it take)

Edit #2:

And I got a response (look how quickly!)

Again a message almost completely from template (last link doesn't work...). I haven't got any answers to questions 2,3,4,5. I'm not going to respond to them. But I've posted a donate application and downloader is now easy to get - check first post.
[Android Apps and Games] julle131:
How are you going to handle with the apps bought from play store?
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
1) please cut my post from your reply it's huge :)

2) no worries, you are in my DB so it will work as expected, the only problem will be that the whole "pro" features will require one additional step
[Android Apps and Games] metalwraith:
Wow, that whole google thing is just mindblowing...
[Android Apps and Games] dscatto:
I guess that just means you're doing something right bponury! :D
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I've updated the RAGE post with my response. I'll update it again when I'll receive something from google. This time maybe they will answer a few questions.
[Android Apps and Games] night_stalker_z:
I looked at the developer policy and found this section in the Dangerous Products section:

That section comes just before the section you quoted.

Maybe if you updated the description to something like "WiFi testing" it might get approved :p
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
But the app in the play store didn't do anything harmful. It downloaded and installed an app. That's the point.
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
I think that the app you had in play store has the file purpose too download another app that Google couldn't monitor is what killed it. It's like you find a way to side step their censorship and that is my guess why they won't allow it. Just my guess on how Google is thinking. No doubt they suck for doing this and their support, or lack there of, has always pissed me off.

Don't let it get you down. Where there is a will, there is a way.

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[Android Apps and Games] jebll:
Avast flagged it as malicious on my system, although I didn't get it from play store, as already blocked.
[Android Apps and Games] pablo216:
I hope you find a way so we can support your great work. I have the free version and killed my own wifi and it worked perfectly.

As soon as you get it running again I'll contribute.

Keep up the good work!
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
It's UP!

If you want a PRO version this is what you should do:

download WiFiKill Donate from Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.paranoid.wifikilldonate

download WiFiKill Downloader from here: http://paranoid.me/wifikill/downloader/

use downloader to download and install proper WiFiKill

think a bit why I had to make this so difficult?!

stop thinking and start using the app

Also I've updated the RAGE POST
[Android Apps and Games] Obbeh:
donated through the playstore and now purchasing the pro version. how will you keep track on who has donated?
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I have a buildserver which takes care of that.

EDIT: now it's rebuilding the app so it might take up to 30 minutes to create the APK, please be patient.
[Android Apps and Games] benoliver999:
Done. Love the app, shame you've had so much trouble.
[Android Apps and Games] mushtafa:
Done! Can I uninstall the donate bit now? Will the main app still work?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Yes, it's just to show up in my logs.
[Android Apps and Games] Obbeh:
so downloaded both and on the dowloader when trying to intstall the pro version it shows a error saying your application is waiting in queue been like that for about 15 mins
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
Bought and installed. Everything is okey :)
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
A better idea is just to post an unlocked in the store. That unlocker can enable the Pro features and then you host the actual program on the Amazon store to handle the distribution bandwidth. Make sure the unlocker doesn't have any code that violates the policies listed.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
The downloader doesn't have any code that violates the policies.
[Android Apps and Games] r00sick:
Hi! Rebuilding is over? Still ask me wait for a 5 minutes... :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] jayjay3333:
The original download from the playstore worked fine. Updated to 1.2. All those the bought the 1st release just check and all is good. :thumbup:
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I think build ended now so all should be fine from now on. I am going to be AFK tomorrow so please if you find bugs post here or send me an email. But I'll fix it in 48hrs.
[Android Apps and Games] atl4ntis:
as u said i uninstalled the donate app, but this caused google play to remborse me automatically..
[Android Apps and Games] CBRRider:
Wait 15 mins and then uninstall it. Then it won't reimburse you.
[Android Apps and Games] atl4ntis:
i know was just reporting the issue, dev must put some delay server side before allowing to dowload the app
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
found bug:

for example i have scanned one wifi victim and disabled connection for it. But later if scanner founds more available victims, i need to reselect "grab all" and "kill all". With older your program, after selecting "kill all" it was killing all connection of all new added victims, now i need to reselect every time "grab all" and "kill all" if i want to kill their connection.
[Android Apps and Games] Naveen004:
Does wifikill downloader work on android 2.3.4
[Android Apps and Games] julle131:
downloader, maybe. Application? No.
[Android Apps and Games] Fishuu:
Checked for updates, and says 1.2 is ready

When I press update and install it just stays at Please Wait...

Tried many time already

What's wrong? Using the first version that was took Down

Thanks in advance
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
maybe try to uninstall all wifikill related appz, download http://paranoid.me/wifikill/downloader/ and try to download pro version if your email was added to its database
[Android Apps and Games] Fishuu:
Still stuck at Please Wait.....

:(
[Android Apps and Games] jantonio23:
^

Im using the demo version and I noticed that everytime my screen goes off.. the wifikill auto terminates itself. I mean the background app itself and the notification were gone after the screen went off.

Is it normal for a free version?
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
Mine upgraded to version 1.2 but looks exactly the same as the previous one. Is there any way to tell that I have the new version?

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[Android Apps and Games] Fishuu:
Got mine working already

No idea how just tried again and again
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I'm kind-of back so if anyone is still having problems, please contact me :)
[Android Apps and Games] TheShoura:
Downloading free version gives error about buildserver queue, "check again in a minute"... Been a long time now, still unable to download... mirror perhaps?
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I totally forgot about the free version. I'm super sorry, it should be ready now :)

Google pulled a "hello world" app from Play claiming it's malicious. I'm going to move to paypal right now so again sorry and please give me some time to build the framework for this.
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
Omg facking google again got removed lol
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Yes, and the only thing the app did was to show a message "Thank You" and address of my site (which also hosts my other apps). And how quickly they reacted this time! Wonder how long will it take for them to respond to me this time.
[Android Apps and Games] happyBOY78:
I like Google...as a company and their products....BUT this is idiotic. And it seems, that people from playstore support have just only head full of beans instead of brain :(

I don´t know U.S. law and justice...but it must be some way to refer control authority, that google break his own rules and kick your ass with imaginary dumb words.

Wifikill downloader was on edge of law...but only donate app don´t break anything by my meaning..

Good luck dev :cowboy:
[Android Apps and Games] benoliver999:
This is crazy. If I make an app that links to your app that links to a downloader - does mine get pulled? If I make an app that links to my app that links to your app that links to the downloader then is that bad?

When does it stop?

Keep up the great work anyway, and I'm happy to have snuck in under the wire with the donation app.

Don't be disheartened, you'll find a way round.
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
It is really strange because there are plenty bruteforce, wifi hacking apps still are on play store and wifikill DONATE app was pulled off...hmmm lol
[Android Apps and Games] spyrale:
it's not strange, there is obviously someone that is reporting the app to Google, someone that, for unknown reasons, doesn't like this developer.

Tapatalked.
[Android Apps and Games] dydbg:
Great app

Just found the app and tried it. It is awesome. I have stopped the internet connection to a few colleagues at work. It is great that it works on LAN networks. I was hilarious. :cool:

I hope that soon I will be able to purchase the app, because I've missed the chance.
[Android Apps and Games] jonnyaztec:
I paid for the donation version a while ago, then i installed a new rom and forgot to do a backup >.< and now the downloader for the "pro" version is gone as you have said, how can i get it back?
[Android Apps and Games] Fishuu:
Go to the dev's website paranoid.me download the wifikill downloader and select the paid version from there, if your email is in his database then you're good to go.
[Android Apps and Games] derride8:
I would like to buy this app, is there a link where I can get the pro version.
[Android Apps and Games] jtadak:
Everything installed fine it scans and nothing shows up :(
[Android Apps and Games] sino8r:
I doubt it. I've reported legitimately evil apps (virus/hateful) before and they are never pulled this quickly/or at all. Usually only tethering apps are removed quickly. This is weird... or they saw that this dev was trying to use a perfectly acceptable loophole and swished it like a bug. Either way, someone does have it out for him but it's someone who works for Google. May not need tin-foil hats for this one:p
[Android Apps and Games] benoliver999:
I can use the Google app to search for wifikill - does that mean theirs needs to be taken down too? Madness.
[Android Apps and Games] derride8:
Anyone have a dl link
[Android Apps and Games] techblitz:
love this app

just tried this app. love it. thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Anyone here willing to test new paypal framework for paid version?
[Android Apps and Games] n00BXperia:
App Removed from Play Store ! :(
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
See first post, It's now available through paypal. Just use the downloader app.
[Android Apps and Games] psych2l:
Sure, send me a link!
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
UPDATE: It's available through PAYPAL, just use the WiFiKill Downloader
[Android Apps and Games] psych2l:
"Your application is waiting in queue to get build on our buildserver, please check again in a minute, sorry for the delay" grr
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Try now
[Android Apps and Games] psych2l:
Confirmed working now :)
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
I'm getting the same error and I purchased from the play store on the original offering.

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[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Its rebuilding. It might take up to 1 hour. Sorry but servers cost :)
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
No worries. Looking at the change log it would seem that there is no reason for original customers to update from 1.2 to 1.3

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[Android Apps and Games] dydbg:
I donated few minutes ago. Now when i try to install the PRO version I get "Parse error" and when I try free version I get "Your application is waiting in queue to get build on our buildserver, please check again in a minute, sorry for the delay".

Should I wait a little more or...

The other day I installed the free version and it worked right away.

I have v1.4 of WifiKill downloader app.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Please talk to me on gtalk - bartosz at ponury dot net.
[Android Apps and Games] morphmk:
Great app!

Keep up the good work!
[Android Apps and Games] Hamidxa:
I have this exact same issue.

Donated to obtain the pro version and receiving the same error as above.

Help please.
[Android Apps and Games] derride8:
I just purchase this app & I'm getting the same message
[Android Apps and Games] niko1986:
I bought the wifikill downloader app before it got pulled from the store. Do i need to donate through PayPal if i ever uninstall the app?

I'm assuming Google wouldn't have paid up for those that bought the app. Or is there a list of emails who purchased through the store and can recover their purchases?
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Could you try it now, I think it should be fixed now.

No need to buy again, you already can use the new downloader.
[Android Apps and Games] derride8:
I got it. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
OK, I have fixed the Parse Error bug in the new WiFiKill Downloader (v 1.5). Please download and use new downloader!
[Android Apps and Games] dydbg:
It's working now. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
Should all of us be using the new downloader? I'm original Google customer and when I use the new downloader to get the pro 1.3 it download but won't install. Gives me an error.

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[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Logcat :)
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
I had pro wifikill1.2 by buying donate app. Installed newest downloader, flashed latest version pro and no problems

---------- Post added at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

Bump for fix :)
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
Please provide instructions on what you need me to do.

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[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
First, uninstall wifikill and the downloader and reboot :) After that install alogcat from play store

run it and download wifikill downloader and try installing the app. And go to alogcat and send logs to me.
[Android Apps and Games] Ferrari353:
I think it would be helpful if you provided a purchase link in OP. It's not a big deal to make the PayPal payment from my phone, but it's easier to do from a computer.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Not so easy, I need your google account (email) and that's what downloader adds to the purchase request as a custom value. So if you purchase it using buy button it won't work.
[Android Apps and Games] Dirk64:
A few days ago I bought Slide.org WifiKill paid version. So now I've to pay for the new one available by downloader again?
[Android Apps and Games] MARZOTRON:
Great app. Bought it last night works very well. Keeps the house mates from sitting on spotify and youtube all night and hogging all the bandwidth.
[Android Apps and Games] Deshabilitado:
I have a question I don't have pay pal account and the credit card it's not mine... If I make a pay pal account its free or how much cost?

Sorry for my English

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[Android Apps and Games] Ferrari353:
Ah okay. So what does grabbing do?

Also, it doesn't seem to be killing...I grabbed and killed my laptop (and I'm sure it was mine because every time I loaded a new page, it showed up in the app) but I could still do everything fine.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I'm afraid that's the only option. But if you don't have android 4.x then you should stay with old version.

Contact me via gtalk please. There might be a bug with iptables.
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
My device is currently unrooted but I'm paid up. I shall be rooted again soon and would like my WiFi Kill to be up to date until then. However the downloader won't allow me to update.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Yes, I thought it to be a good idea to warn people if something is wrong before they download. But maybe I'll remove the root check.
[Android Apps and Games] k3ph:
I had slideme paid version already but didn't installed in my fresh new jelly bean device.

I've just bought the pro version but can't figure out how to make it work, it appears a message:

"Not copying binary file (up2date)", is it normal?

screenshot:
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Uninstall wifikill and install again using downloader. And that message is completely fine :)
[Android Apps and Games] Jayman007:
Does the original downloader still work for the original Google purchasers? I have no luck at all using the new one to install the 1.3 pro but the old one seems to work fine. How can we verify what version we have installed? Would you please include an "about" so that it's easily checked.

Thank you.

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[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
yeh would be really cool if we could know what version we have. I have bought donated app, downloaded pro app with newest downloader but to be honest I didnt test if it is free or pro. (didnt check if it is shutting down after 5 mins)
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Not a bad idea :) I'll add it. Please send me an email to support at paranoid dot me with your google account email and I'll check in DB if you're in. maybe there was some hiccup when moving databases.
[Android Apps and Games] hotsync100:
Any plans to make a Google Play donate app? PayPal is restricted on my country :(
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
It was on the play store but google removed it.
[Android Apps and Games] Deshabilitado:
Can u put it again that way I can buy it?

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[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Unfortunately no, because google might delete my google developer account.
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
btw you could try to name it on play store like "pbonury magic". And it would be like donate app. I think they wouldnt delete it. And dont give any description anything related to wifikill
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I could but I don't know how google would react to this.
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
btw they gave any comments why they pulled off DONATE app? just wondering o.O
[Android Apps and Games] Dirk64:
?

Have a look at my device in app signature...

And why is it not described as only for 2.x at SlideME? So I've to pay two times for one app. Sorry, I renounce.
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
I'm sorry but because of some legal stuff I can't transfer your payment. You can request a refund on slideme though. But I am thinking about this wifikill as a new app. It's for different devices (this won't work on 2.x and the old one won't work on 4.x) and I'll add much more features in the future. You bought the app for 2.x and you can still use it on older devices. Again sorry and please try the refund path over slideme.
[Android Apps and Games] Dirk64:
I don't want you to transfer my payment. I just thought it would work on 4.x too because Slide didn't show that's for older devices. But, so what, somehow my fault not to read earlier here at XDA. I'll give a try to the new one. By the way, thanks for answering.

EDIT: Donated, ....
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
Thank you :) I've also updated the description on the slideme market so people wouldn't get confused like you. Again sorry about that. I hope future updates will make it up for you.
[Android Apps and Games] rubenbaratoy:
I discovered the app today and bought it within 10 minutes... great job!
[Android Apps and Games] randomvector:
Hi I purchased the App from the Play store before it got pulled.

The app has been working well I just have a couple of queries, will there be more device information like in the older wifikill such as Mac address? Also when I give a device a name to make them easier to identify; is that name associated with the device or the IP address? as I don't believe I have DHCP reservation. And one last feature also like to request is redirecting to a url.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] pablo216:
+1

For me the program (full version) doesn't seem to be able to kick devices named Apple Inc. Anyone else has this problem?
[Android Apps and Games] bponury:
The name you assign is associated with the device mac address but it's only for wifikill "internal" usage. I will add more device information in the next release which in my workshop right now. I want to make it configurable "what to show". I am now working with netbios name resolution (aka device name in workgroup). I just need a few more days :)
[Android Apps and Games] EdgaBimbam:
Please also dont forget to fix this issue :)

found bug:for example i have scanned one wifi victim and disabled connection for it. But later if scanner founds more available victims, i need to reselect "grab all" and "kill all". With older your program, after selecting "kill all" it was killing all connection of all new added victims, now i need to reselect every time "grab all" and "kill all" if i want to kill their connection
[Android Apps and Games] matt4321:
On my phone, any time I try to start the app it comes up with "service error: unable to start service, do you have root?" (yes, yes I do have root before anyone asks) and "Service error: service crashed... died... vaporized... my bad, sorry"

But on my tablet it seems to be working fine
[Android Apps and Games] Deadly:
Try updating your busy box from play store sterisson app.. that may be the cause.. also if you are super user.apk user.. check app version 3.1.3 and binary is 3.1.1 .. these are latest version..

Sent from the MUST have app!