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[LG Thrill 4G] Spartoi:
Btw, if you want to compare a stock 1Ghz SGS2 to the Thrill, here are a few benchmarks I ran while I still had one.

That's mainly because all dual-core phones have more than 512MB and obviously dual core > single core. As for the tri-dual tech, I haven't noticed it at all. What I have noticed is that from a fresh boot, my Thrill has less than 200MB of usable RAM while my SGS2 had around 800MB of free Ram and I notice this every day. I can't play an intense game and listen to audio without some kinda lag, something my former SGS2 could eat up easily at 800 Mhz and all of its Ram.

I also thought 512MB would be enough since I originally had a SGS, but I guess after using a SGS2 my expectation have increased too far.

Are there any rumors of device with tri-dual technology? Apart from the dual-core, I haven't even noticed the other dual components. The SGS2 will only be outdated when ICS and quad cores are released, meanwhile the Thrill has less RAM than any other dual core phone, as well as the oldest firmware among and ICS comes out it will be even further behind.

Apart from that, other components in the Thrill are also outdated/poor quality such as its screen, sound chip, camera, etc.

Does "a pretty close to stock rom" mean a custom rom with various speed tweaks? As for CM7, Ricardo once posted a bench that showed the O3D was still significantly slower than a stock SGS2. As for the custom kernel, I find that highly suspicious but anyways there was also a kernel for the SGS2 that let it get over 4K with stock speeds.

You don't think its strange that Rom got higher quadrant scores but improved nothing else? I personally think it has a quadrant script and is cheating. I don't care about seeing high quadrant scores that have been known to be false. If your gonna prove that the Thrill is as fast a SGS2, the do it with other benchmarks.
[LG Thrill 4G] Spartoi:
No, what this is me having a slow and laggy experience on this device by doing things that a phone with more Ram was capable of doing. And lol at wasted Ram. I'd much rather have wasted Ram then no Ram at all because when the latter happens, the phone enters slide-show mode until I wait 10 seconds to go Home and stop all the running task.

How can I not notice it? This alleged improvement in technology is supposed to be noticeable in performance is it not? Otherwise, why even bother including it? From all the phones I have used, this phone either feels on par with them or significantly slower than them. But the whole "tri-dual tech" is supposed to make the phone run/feel faster, right?

If you have a stock Rom then there is no way you are getting over 3K. Simple as that. My stock Thrill was getting between 2200-2600 at best, so you have obviously done something to increase the score.

The OMAP 4430 in the Thrill IS outdated with 4460 coming out in the Nexus Prime and the GPU in the OMAP4 is also outdated. LCD panels ARE outdated. There are other superior screen technology out there such as: AMOLED, SMAOLED, SAMOLED+, SAMOLED HD, IPS/Retina, IPS HD, and Super LCD. Galaxy on Fire 2 lags like mad even without the MSAA boost.

As for other poor quality things, the speakers are low and the camera is mediocre at best.

What kinda improvement could you do that makes the Quadrant score increase by 1000 but not other benchmarks?

You have never used a SGS2. Even if you have played with one for a few minutes, you haven't experienced the experience it offers. Its really the little things that impress so much about it. Like quickly loading up and scrolling through a long list with no lag, installing and uninstalling apps at the same time with no lag, loading up web pages super fast while remaining super smooth, switching from a dozen apps with no lag or worry at all, scrolling through the homescren, market, app drawer, quickly with no lag. Basically, the phone never slows down (even though I underclocked it to 800Mhz) and that amazes the hell out of me.

The Thrill suffers from random (and annoying) reboots which has recently started up and is annoying the hell out of me. I've also been forced to uninstall a lot of my apps because they slow the phone down to the point of it being unusable. Being unable to listen to music and play O&C Online saddens me a lot because I used to do this all the time on my SGS2, I play this on the limited amount of Ram available.

The Thrill does, however, have a 3D screen and I believe it has a lot of potential. and that's why I bought it.

You type a crazy amount of text from a phone. Anyways, these posts are getting too long so lets just agree to disagree.
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
Quick points:

I've yet to come close to running out of ram.

Almost all those displays you listed are patented to Samsung and one to apple. Either way LCD is not outdated. Its been around a while but definitely not outdated as it will be around for a long time to come due to above mentioned patents.

The gpu in the thrill actually consistently outpperforms the sgs2. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested

Every perk you listed above for the sgs2 I experience on the thrill with literally none of those bad side effects. I don't get any reboots (I know some do) and I have absolutely zero lag scrolling or opening anything. I multitask with no issues what so ever.

Maybe there's just some bad batches of Thrills out there. It happens with every phone I've owned. Some people have issues whole others do not. I guess I got lucky. It was a little buggy the first couple days I had it but it settled in and this thing flies with no hiccups. And I've actually been on a completely stock rooted rom the past 2 days while I've been testing kernel builds.

Playing with a phone for a few minutes is actually plenty of time to test its capabilities. What I can't vouch for on the sgs2 are its build quality, battery life, reliability. Those are the things that take time to find out. Performance can be measured in minutes.

But you're probably right that were going to have to agree to disagree.

And smart keyboard pro is single handedly responsible for the large amounts of typing from the phone ;)
[LG Thrill 4G] msm903:
While the Thrill is a nice device. I was forced to give mine to my wife. In fact I had them swap it out for a new device when I picked up my SGS2 on Sunday.

The SGS2 is smoother and while I miss the 3D on the Thrill, I have a 3D tv and a 3D capable PC to view 3D content on. The Thrill also does not provide the correct jps format for 3D. It places the pictures in parallel instead of cross eye, thus pictures have to be flipped on other 3D devices and videos give problems. Not to mention that both the old and new Thrill I have suffer from the random reboots. (at least they tend to happen when not being used).

Just my 2 cents.
[LG Thrill 4G] Spartoi:
I have, multiple times which results in me needing to reboot the phone because it transition way to slow for me to make it to the task manager.

LG makes IPS displays, including the iPhone's Retina and Super LCD and AMOLED is available to all.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now

Please don't post way outdated articles.

No, its can't. Playing with a phone for a few minutes won't let know how many apps you can load up without slow down, you can't truly know the browsing experience, you can't find out the limits of the phone, and more importantly can't enjoy the experience.

Indeed.
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
Let me restate the obvious again. Not all devices are made equal considering the way things are made now a days and the lack of quality control. Secondly not all users have the exact same apps and what not installed which for all we know could be causing conflicts in the phones os which in turn causes random reboots and slow downs. That would be why the iphones have the lack of random reboots and slow downs because the hardware the apps are made for are all the same where as android has how many different devices. Anyway yea something to think about with the comparing as well. Also this device is currently being gimped by froyo which doesn't have any optimizations for the hardware this device is using so I am guessing once this gets gb it will be a completely different story. Its basically like comparing two computers that are almost identical but one is running vista while the other is running windows 7. Apples and oranges is all that is being compared at the moment and until the android os can take full advantage of the hardware on this device and everyone uses the exact same apps and configuration thats all it will ever be .
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
...you can't run out of ram in that way LOL. I don't think you have a grasp on the way the android OS works. The ONLY thing that happens when you run out of free ram is that android will kill low priority processes to run new processes. This will not slow the phone down any noticeable amount. But it may cause you to possibly lose something if the process happens to be something you left in the background without saving it. What you are running out of is cache. That will fill up. That will slow down browsing.

More apps will slow every phone down. This changes by operating system, not phone. Gingerbread brought the upgrade to ext4 file system. A major improvement in read/write speeds that made things a lot better. Froyo already uses a slower filesystem and additional apps slows this down. Once we get gingerbread that will be fixed. It's apples to oranges there til GB.

Outdated articles? Nothings changed. The information is still fully valid.
[LG Thrill 4G] rthamilton:
Well I decided to get a sgs2 as a past and present thrill owner. As far as the phone goes I like the sgs2 a lot better. So far I'm getting better battery like outta my Samsung than my thrill and its a lot faster in real life in my opinion. But I think both are very capable phones depending what u use them for. My one and only quad benchmark on my sgs2 was 3700 but the real life speed is what I like. The screen I find easier to read when I'm outside also. I haven't tried the camera yet but that was my biggest dislike to the thrill. The interface on the sgs2 seems nicer also but I never complained about that on my thrill much. I have no real noticble lag on sgs2 but my biggest lag issue on my thrill was while downloading/installing apps and doing other things. My biggest reason for trying sgs2 is I think it interests developers more and I cant leave well enough alone.
[LG Thrill 4G] fuzedbyhtc:
I have consistent quadrant scores of 2700+ on my bone stock non rooted Froyo Thrill.

The thrills dual channel RAM , even though less than SG2, will run laps around it all day simply because of design, it's like a road, a single lane road no matter what you do to it will NEVER flow more traffic than a dual lane road. the processor speed difference of 200mhz isn't significant enough to make any leaps let alone leaps ahead of the thrills dual channel ram with nearly the same processor speed. The GPU in the thrill conquers the SG2 in every test/benchmark/game i've thrown at the two devices, ATT seems to have killed the specs of the phone downsized it from 4.5 to 4.3 inches and somehow managed to get battery life down to 3-4 hrs of use, that's half of what it's supposed to get.

And all phones we get here in the US are already obsolete because we are the last country on the planet to receive tech from over seas, so by the time we have the phone the asian countries have had them for 6-9 months and already have a device that is better out. I came from Samsung Galaxy, Infuse, and she has an SG2, the only thing i see the SG2 has on the Thrill is the SAMOLED+ Gorilla Glass screen that samsung favors, aside from that running on a much slower and outdated OS the thrill holds it's own, and when the thrill gets official GB it will run circles around the SG2, it already nearly beets it in nearly every aspect. but if you want a razon thin phone with an exceptional screen thatn the sg2 is for you. everyone who compares just the speed and memory size are fooled just like the rest of the market, it doesn't matter how much ram you have if it is impossible for it to run faster than the thrill, the only thing more RAM does for you in a phone is allow more apps to be open at once, and how much stuff can you honestly work on at the same time.

A DUAL CORE DUAL CHANNEL BUS CONFIGURATION WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL OVER A SINGLE CHANNEL DUAL CORE.

just my 2 cents.....
[LG Thrill 4G] pjcforpres:
The Thrill is plenty fast enough. While the GSII is faster, so what? It is also (in my case) ten times more expensive, not that solid of a build quality, and how long do you think updates will take for the GSII (not much better, if not worse, than the Thrill)... and Samsung has no excuse, at least LG has a good reason why their update is delayed (dual channel isn't fully supported in the stock Android kernel, they have to add it in, and if they started coding for this way back on 2.2, it takes time to then move to 2.3, especially if trying to meet launch dates). ICS is rumored to support dual channel out of the box (as the rumored specs for the Nexus Prime have it running an OMAP4460)... so at that point, who will get it first, the people porting a framework, or the people porting a framework and porting a kernel? I will go with the framework only guys.
[LG Thrill 4G] rthamilton:
My scores from att gs2 not overclocked
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
The ONLY reason the thrill gets those low quadrant scores is because of the rediculously slow read/write speed of its current filesystem setup. The same thing plagued the original GalaxyS. GB brings ext4 support and less fragmentation which will easily put the Thrill up near those sgs2 benchmarks. On my current configuration im pushing 3600 quadrant scores on froyo! But more importantly there is zero lag doing anything. This thing flies!

One dev claims near 4k quadrant scores with ext4 on the O3D.
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
Whoops.
[LG Thrill 4G] rthamilton:
Overclocked gs2 quad scores

Wrong image oooops
[LG Thrill 4G] :
Okay, everyone should stop arguing, the SGS2 is clearly faster, but who cares? Why would we pay an extra 100 to 180 dollars for a phone that's going to be outdated within three months? Or for a phone in which the specs on it won't be useful because we won't be able or even need to access them all for years to come?
[LG Thrill 4G] rthamilton:
Agreed. 90% of people will argue that whatever they have is better. For everyone has different needs and what is best for one may not be best for the next. I'm pretty sure some will argue the razor is the best phone ever made.I personally own and use a thrill and gs2. Personally I'd be happy with either. High Benchmarks dont always translate to lag free use anyway.
[LG Thrill 4G] Jorge330823:
Scored 5497 quadrant with my nexus s 4g. Single core awesomeness
[LG Thrill 4G] King_Rat:
Antutu??

I got the following on Antutu ^^

Is this comparable w/ Quadrant??

Running CM7.2 - OC'd @ 1.5Ghz - Juwe11 ram scripted - loopysmoothness tweaked
[LG Thrill 4G] thirdcoastraised:
Umm...check again, the Retina display is a Samsung creation, hence the reason that even running the Android system that Apple claims was stolen from them, Apple did not file suits to stop SGS3 from releasing in U.S like they did against HTC and most likely will against LG with their awesome quad core phone coming soon that still wont be able to beat SGS2 OR 3

TeAm VeNuM & BluKuban 1.0.4.0, the BEASTS of ICS and Developers alike! Prepare for the bite of the Vipers!
[LG Thrill 4G] thirdcoastraised:
Antutu is more widely recognized and accepted as more accurate. Prior to releases, it is ALWAYS Antutu benchmarks that are run and reported

TeAm VeNuM & BluKuban 1.0.4.0, the BEASTS of ICS and Developers alike! Prepare for the bite of the Vipers!
[LG Thrill 4G] twinAnj:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ina_displays_along_with_samsung___report.html

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/150803/lg-supplying-macbook-pro-retina-displays-to-apple

Looks like a few companies have manufactured the "retina display"
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tacotino:
So I just talked to my DOS about the GS2, and how we are not going to be carrying them in store, he said because there more devices coming out this fall that are going to crush the gs2... he woundn't go into details what devices are available, but he did give me a hint one might be a nexus device.. anyone have any info about this?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sass86:
You can't be serious. Google it! "nexus prime" is a possible name for it. No real specs yet as far as I know.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
There will be a nexus prime thus fall which is supposed to be made by Samsung...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tacotino:
It's not just the nexus, i know all about that, but one of the phones is called Rocket Ship or something... which i'm not sure if thats the ture name but he said it's going to be one of the top phones around, he wouldn't give me a name of the company making it.. from what i was told its going to be a crazy fall
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XAviierG:
HTC holiday is one that will be very amazing
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tacotino:
is that coming to AT&T?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
You will find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow too!

C'mon...........please............these idiots are clueless and you are listening to them.

Please close this needless thread!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XAviierG:
Yeah by December if I recall
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tacotino:
I'm sorry that this Thread is effecting your personal life, I just to get some info from ppl here how might have an answer... That's why i asked the question...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rquinn19:
You can wait for ICS, then Jelly Bean, then quad cores, then ...

Something is always right around the corner.

I'm an AMD fan (PC guy) and I've been told to wait for Bulldozer for who knows how long now. Good thing I bought that 1055T 6 months ago when BD was right around the corner.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xploited:
Sorry bro, but I find it hard to believe that there is a "super phone" coming this fall that this one guy at the store knows about but the rumors aren't all over the internet... :D

I realize you are just saying what you heard, but I wouldn't trust too much to one person's opinion. ;)

p.s. even if such super phone comes, featuring let's say "a quad core processor" i would still stick with the Atrix for a year or two, because:

1.

there's no Android OS or software that requires that much resources right now

, Tegra 2 maxes out everything currently available in terms of software

2.

after the phone comes out, it will be at least a couple of months before it has CM7

, custom roms and all the goodies. the Atrix has that right now.

Cheerz.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tacotino:
I would agree with your statement, i love my atrix! i can't wait for ICS to come out for us, also for CM7 to get out of beta. its jus this isn't some guy who works with me, this is my DOS, who talks to my Vice Pres who gets all the info about phone, he told me about the atrix when it was Prototype, after he made that statement few months later, boom all over engadget/ gizmodo. so i'm not saying he is right, just wondering if anyone know about this. I know how this hole info over pulse/ engadget rumors, i'm the goto guy for android for my market, but they wont share info with me, which is lame!!!! but you never know it might something they are keeping under raps
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tacotino:
I love AMD, but i hear bulldozer wasn't as good as I7... Way off topic now
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rquinn19:
I know I was a little OT, but point being is if you're waiting for the next besdt thing you'll be waiting forever.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Matriak31:
Hi guys.

I always feel that my display eats the most of my battery..I know what do you expect from S.AMOLED Plus displays..Gorgeous i know but eats your battery..Anyway great app on the market that i have started to use and it works wonders for me and would like to spread the word, if you don't already know about about this app..

Link is this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.haxor&hl=en

Apologies if you already have it, but i just thought if there are more people like myself who want to save a bit of juice on your battery this is a great app to use specially if your brightness is abit to much as well.

Cheers:D
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Stea1thmode:
very good for bedtime reading too and discreet enough not to annoy the missus. This is one of the first apps I install on every Rom change.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Matriak31:
tell me about it..hows pat:D? get it..:p i know lame joke.

man this has boosted my battery life by 20%. so i saw people sharing apps that they recommend so i thought why not i do the same..if it helps others why not:D

thanks for posting
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] griprx:
I liked it but found out that if set too low (as it is very efficient) it can be tricky to find the icon or anything else for that matter so eventually I stopped using it :)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Matriak31:
You always get the icon on the top left hand corner. if you bring down the drop down menu you could access the app from there.:)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Stea1thmode:
Pat's doing very well my boy;)

The Ghost of Frank B:eek:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diego.vieira:
I have rooted my phone using this method:

http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root

At first worked flawless, but for some reason, it's not working anymore.

I did nothing to the phone and the root access seens to be gone.

Question: Can I root it again using this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15872818 or I need to 'unroot' ?

The stock ROM version was 4.1.83 updated to 4.5.91 using Motorola Update downloaded from the site (OTA didn't worked).

Thank you

EDIT:

Tried to clear the data, but didn't worked.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] MIG_30:
anyone knows witch file has to be changed to change the text colours in the rom?

because some roms are mainly green, others blue and some themes can change the text colour i just need to know in what file are the colours of the text.

thanks in advance
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] dully79:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=916814
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmbomb:
Hi all.

I have the AT&T version 7"tab

Already have gingerbread JQ1 and Bell JK3 modem installed.

Everything is up and good.

It was recommended to put on Dip7 kernel for a final step.

I got the file from here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1109145&page=27 post number 2

It took me to here where I downloaded the file.

http://www.multiupload.com/STQ0QJ3THX

Now the file is called "galaxytab_kernel-dip.tar.gz"

When I fire up Odin and browse in the PDA button....

NO .tar shows up..

I cannot install this without a .tar & there isnt one in the file.Any-1 know why this file is named with an ending extention of .gz

And how can I load up my tab with the kernell without the .tar.

Thanks to all who reply.

all replies are welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks again.

jh
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmbomb:
up-date...

I used 7-zip to un-pack the .tar

Whew.. finally got the .tar..

Now I goto Odin to load it in PDA, pchoose the .tar

push the start button.. and BAM

"Odin communicator has stopped working"

dammn.. I was this close...

Can any-1 help with this problem? thanks alot to all who reads this & thanks again to all who reply..

I am almost done.. but am stuck here..

thanks. jh
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmbomb:
I know Odin is working..

I just re-flashed the modem just to make sure that Odin is working.

I re-downloaded the kernel .tar.gz..

also redownloaded and uninstalled & re-installed 7-zip

got a fresh .tar..

STILL get "Odin communicator has stopped working".

Id really like to put this kernel on..

any ideas?? Please..

thank you..

jh