yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Its not speculation, the only way the wipe function works is if its enabled in the account linked to the phone. They don't / can't wipe any random phone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
How about you stop lying and posting fake videos? Yeah, your phone was just "locked" before you could post any actual files. You should be banned.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
You should be banned, not only have respectable (ish in my case) devs have vouched for it, a senior mod came in and vouched. Access to the device was given to more than one dev, and video was made.

Proof was provided.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfalgout2003:
Logical arguments is what I do. My point is that sufficient evidence was given to prove that it is indeed ICS, so instead of giving me assumptions to disprove it, I want evidence. That would be logical.

Also, I just love all the lawyers on here saying what is and isn't legal. If you didn't know, corporations are legal persons. Google has a right to protect its intellectual property just like a person does. So if the phone was the property of a beta tester that was lost/stolen then sold on eBay, Google has the right to disable that phone once they locate it. Do you really believe that Google wouldn't have saftey measures in place to protect ICS from possibly being dumped if the phone were to get into the wrong hands? Also, don't you think that Google would know exactly what directories needed to be wiped to prevent any possible dump from happening? It was stated in this thread previously that other companies are known to have the same protections in place for their properties as well, why wouldn't Google? People say it's improbable that Google remotely wiped the phone, while I believe otherwise. While it is illegal for them to remotely wipe my phone that I legally bought from AT&T, it would be perfectly OK for them to wipe a phone that was lost/stolen.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] squshy 7:
wow...alooooot of ignorant people on here.

you know it's a thread full of BS and ****-measuring when 90% of the responders have a total post count less than 10...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cteneyck:
hello all. is there any update on the recovery effort. i saw that you got the kernel and ramfs. just curious if there was any further news.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
wasn't there a case recently where the owner had put anti theft software on their computer, it was stolen, and the owners got in trouble privacy violations - or something like that, i forget the details.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
There was a lawsuit, but that involved the webcam taking pictures of people.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
Oh, something I remember that didn't make the video...

seems like there's an option in the settings to allow users to cap their data. right away when i saw it i thought that was pretty awesome because i've never seen it on a phone before.

now looking back, i don't know what made me think it was to cap data and not just to show you how much data you've been using, but that's what i thought it did.

i don't know if other phones or apps do this, but thought it was pretty cool.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drzfr3shboialex:
Can you talk about browser and etc please
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feelers:
Hey motu0083 glad you are still around. Must be quite crazy to cause such a stir! I have a few questions, I commented towards the start and read through all 62 pages :D . Was the ebay seller link posted earlier the correct one? I'm quite keen to see what happens if you contact Google and ask them kindly for an explanation, maybe say you think you have some of their property but would like to confirm/return it. Someone also mentioned that possibly the files were just deleted and not overwritten, but that seems unlikely. Did the ebay guy offer to replace it?

100,000 views in 1 day! Awesome.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wkd2639:
Remote Wipe

I am simply astounded by some of the people in this thread.

For what it is worth I do believe that this is Ice Cream Sandwich.

I do believe that Google remotely wiped the device - whether their test builds have a much more severe remote wipe than an OEM build is anybody's guess but I would not be surprised were that the case.

As for the idiots winging about how evil Google are for remotely wiping the device - there are a number of things here.

1) A quick google for "Android AOSP remote wipe" will provide plenty of articles about the remote wipe function - such as - http://thenextweb.com/google/2010/1...res-to-android-through-google-apps-dashboard/

2) You have already clarified that HTC Sense has the functionality along with many apps and even device manufacturers.

3) If this is an early build the last thing they are going to want is for it to be leaked before they announce the public version of ICS - the final version may or may not have parts of the functionality of the leak.

-

For info - the most effective way for Google to cope with theft of intellectual property would be the following:

All phones (smart and dumb) for at least the last 8 years can detect change of SIM CARD. If I were programming the protection I would be reporting the current phone number, IMEI and Sim card serial number to Google after every boot, the second the phone has a useable data signal. Google would then see when one of their developer phones suddenly has an unauthorised sim card in it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
question for you: do you still have the phone?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robinmobile:
My best guess ...... This was a controlled leak ...... This guy is gave just the enough info to prove it was original but no system data... The timing... Just before i5... And the way this guy is giving us details bit by bit..... All very very controlled ....

Anyway I am disappointed from what I saw from the video.... I expected more from ics....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
ha. good one. and where is this evidence? and if a "dev" had it, where the hell are the ROM files?!??
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
This has gotten pathetic. For the love of God somebody close this troll thread already. Nothing new or good can come of this.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunden:
Do you even read other posts in this thread? It has already been explain several times that they were able to dump the kernel and ramdisk. That would mean that they dumped the boot-partition. The rest got wiped.

Since anything of interest is located on the system-partition there is little need to wipe the boot-partition so it makes sense that that would be left on there.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
so, now for the real drama.

out of curiousity, i googled that linux kernel version, linux version 3.0.1-g0ea9958, to see if i could find out any info about it. oh, and i did. but NOT the kind of info that i was looking for. the only result for linux version 3.0.1-g0ea9958 that came up was a tweet from @TeamAndIRC from august 15th. thats 6 weeks ago, and the only matching result. can you guess who TeamAndIRC is? its none other than our own jcase(right in his sig). the dev who claims that they just pulled this kernel of the supposed wiped nexus s that supposedly had ICS on it. hey jcase, is this your first IceCreamSandwich device? to bad that the tweet was deleted. because, ironically, google didnt wipe it :eek:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Du du dun
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
That's when the first leaked ics pictures showed up. What would that prove?? That more than one Nexus S had the same build. Either believe it or don't. I have nothing to gain or lose by posting that screenshot earlier with that kernel on my device.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thiagodark:
and the plot gets dense...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
funny thing that its the only info on that kernel version, just that one tweet from the dev thats "helping" the op. too much of a coincidence. go ahead, google it yourself. the first leaked ics pics are probably from the same source.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
and where are those files? I searched and couldn't find anything.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
that kernel was on your device? so it runs gingerbread.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
hahahaha BRILLIANT! I think some bans are in order
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
Dude obviously you haven't read much of anything. The boot.img was salvageable. THAT'S IT. What are you going to do with it?? Nothing at all. Why? Because it is absolutely worthless without the system files that are tied to it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
wow. how convenient. you all should be ashamed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
You can see in that screen shot clearly all the errors. It boots enough to get a logcat. That's it, nothing more, it's worthless.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
I should be ashamed of what trying to help the guy for 3 hours last night and get a dump we could use on our devices? You are right! I AM ASHAMED I EVER TRIED TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE UNGRATEFUL TROLLS, INCLUDING YOU, IN THIS THREAD. DUMBASS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
I'm a troll? I'm a dumbass? Sorry but that's not true, and now after seeing that this kernel version in these screenshots is the same as that tweet proves this is all fake. Give it up dude.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
Put on your tin foil hat.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
i see that, and im not accusing you of anything. i believe that you are an innocent bystander in this. really. but i can smell jcases bs before even logging into xda. he was hiding something. just by his actions and defensiveness it appeared so.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
You are another troll that decided to jump in this thread and try and prove this **** wrong. What did I gain by this? Nothing at all. I was contacted by another member to help this guy get a dump and now I am all of a sudden part of some elaborate hoax. Dude you jumped in here after hundreds of posts and act like you figured something out. Well congratulations, you did, you're a troll! Now gtfo.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
i didn't figure anything out, simms22 did.

i know you're saying you spent a lot of time with this guy, and even if you did, i think he was lying to you. sorry dude, i just think he BS'd you
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhu1:
Calm down dude! If you believe he is a troll then rwplying to his post is of no use.

hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eugene373:
Powder donuts makes me go nuts!!! :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

~ You have been Trolled

~Eugene the Troller

Please just report this thread & let it go.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrandoHD:
@derekwilkinson and @simms22, we will all know the truth eventually, and I do hope that everyone can look back on this thread and fell good about themselves
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
oh i'll fell good alright... lol jk but yeah if I'm wrong I'll take it like a man and apologize. If not, HELLZ YEAHHHHHHHHHH :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SA-07:
This thread is mind blowing lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Seriously, because I tweeted it a minute before the post? I didnt delete teh tweet its right here

https://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/119488194646515712

You are a child, and obviously new to android.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Hiding what, what am I hiding? you are here to stir **** that is it, even a Senior Mod verified the claims, j_r0dd was involved before me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
dun dun duh

I tweeted the uname -a of the kernel, about 30seconds before the post, i don't get it.

Its a fairly unique string from an unreleased firmware, why are you guys shocked its not all over the net?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
You are right, let me ring some people for you.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
a minute? that was made in august

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go for it mate.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babijoee:
Please respect other members, i have been reading all your posts and all of them are off-topic and just starting arguments.

@j_rodd and other members who have helped the OP i suggest you dismiss this thread its no longer on topic at all.

I will now be taking down all members name from here on who are off topic and starting problems and will suggest then to the forum mod for investigation, warnings and bans.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
30 seconds, 6 weeks, same thing.

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how is what i'm saying off topic!??!?!?!? whatever.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
That wasn't actually at you, it was meant for the BS that was gonna follow and did. You have to admit this is getting entertaining. No matter what is said or done someone is right there to claim wolf.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spittal:
I officially declare simms22 as one of the honourable "Knights of the Round XDA"

Keep on being a baller my friend!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Then go ahead and apologize, we backed up our claims, and no one can refute it. Proof was provided to mods, mod posted backing us.

Let me go ahead and point it out to you again, in case you can not read.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17975147&postcount=378
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
6weeks? its a kernel build date, you are showing your ignorance.

https://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/119488194646515712

Please learn to tell the difference of a Twitter Post date and a kernel build date.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
I think all the people arguing are the same person trying to get attention... :rolleyes:

Can I start another conspiracy theory? lol

this thread needs to be closed. there is no point in keeping it open for new people to come along and ask why no one helped the guy dump the rom, cause they didn't read thread. Or posts by people who keep accusing others of being liars, ect. it's pretty stupid... Time to move on and put that energy into something more useful.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
you are right..

i am very new to android obviously. and very much a child.

but it doesnt change the fact that google says you tweeted it on the aug 15 :eek:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
yeah it wasn't tweeted the 15th. but i'm still wondering how did you get this version then and build it???

i'm done with this for now. when this all ends up being fake we'll see who gets in trouble. but i'm out of here, i'm tired of this stupidity.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
read all 66 pages then you'll find the answer
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Did you bother to read the post at all, we dumped it off the device. We didn't build it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
No, click the link.

You don;t know how to tell the differnce of 8hours ago (the tweet time) and the aug 15th, the build date I tweeted.

You are new to linux, and your posts show it very well.

I really cant understand how you don't know the difference of the content of a tweet (ie the aug 15th date) and the time of the tweet (ie today)

Again, please actually read before making yourself out to be well your true self

https://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/119488194646515712
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
What chrome theme is that? I like it!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Look at me I can time travel? Nope I jsut typed a date out.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith.macdonald:
Very nice, detective Phelps! The Chief has promoted you to homicide. You've got jcase in the hot seat, and he's looking nervous. Good work! X-D Truly, this would make an excellent case for LA Noir. Maybe someone should do a You Tube spoof. ;-)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
@ jcase,

why not just post the useless kernel? No one can use it without ICS. Perhaps when ICS is released they can then try the kernel and if it works with the release build, or at least boots it, it just proves you were right about it being an ICS leak.

You seem pretty intent on defending yourself. I think that is the only way to shut everyone up.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babijoee:
There was absolutely no reason for this statement. A new member came here seeking for advice not to be judged and accused.

If you actually read the thread instead of doing searches and assuming you've got all the info you would know that anyone who has seen or have the files will not leak them. And not reading the whole thread due to it being so long is not our problem, most users who are interested will read the thread for up to date information and read what's already been asked so that they don't waste anyone's time.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
ROTFLMAO!!!!!

This just gets better and better. But seriously what chrome theme is that
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
They said they would shut up when we posted the picture, they didn't.

They know its real, they just want the files posted so they can oo and awe at them. Not happening.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Erm I don't think its themed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Ya after the way you have been treated screw that.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spittal:
I don't see the harm in posting the kernel, other than it makes you guys look like dong bags.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
alright man, but until you provide proof, don't expect anyone to believe you. For that reason, don't get so offended at being questioned. this whole thing is very fishy, and you getting so defensive doesn't help your cause.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
@derekwilkinson: keep your comments to yourself unless they contribute to the topic. You're doing nothing but derailing the thread with personal attacks that stem from the fact _you_haven't_read_it_. Please don't get confused as to why people are frustrated with you when you aggressively suggest bans as your first comment in this post, and can't even show the common courtesy to read the thread you're posting in.

@simms22: jcase suggested you'd find something fake or wrong with evidence provided. If you choose not to accept this information, stop derailing the thread. Several higher-level people have confirmed it - no one's holding a gun to your head saying you've got to believe it.

Recap for those who don't want to read the thread: prominent devs here have confirmed the leak has been wiped, and was running ICS (along with a new kernal).

Evidence from the video suggests the amount of time and effort that would have to be put into a custom ROM, just to stage this elaborate hoax, far outweigh any gain.

Keep the thread on-topic.

op: you were in the messaging app (recent apps from the video): what was it like?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
yep, i'm wasting everyone's time. not the people who claim to have ICS files and refuse to post them. Nope, I'M the bad guy. Seriously dude?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
The proof originally requested was posted, and proof provided to a senior mod.

I mean, if ya'll can't tell the difference of a kernel build date, and the date of a tweet, do I really expect anyone of the trolls to actually know what they are looking at when/if I post the zImage?

Please explain what you plan to do with it
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
They provided a screen shot of the script of the kernel, what more do you want? Classes so you can learn what programing language your reading?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
i want them to upload the damn kernel. is that so much to ask???
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Ya its technically stolen intellectual property
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
yep, you're smarter than everyone else. you're just a god. now how about you just post the image then if you're so confident?

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yet the video is still up? google hasn't removed that and it has a walk through of their device they just had "wiped" to keep it all a secret??? yeah sure ok.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
What would this achieve? It would satisfy your innate curiosity? If you're too inept to discuss the topic rationally, having your approval on the matter counts for little.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
well, i mean it would settle all of this and prove it's real, but i mean besides that nothing i guess...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lynyrd65:
Calm down. What's your problem?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Pictures are not intellectual property. The rom they erased is since it can be distributed to other phones and released before Google releases it themselves
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
my problem is that they are pretty much screwing with us. saying they have this new kernel yet won't provide it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
How would you use it to prove its real? We met the original requests, and still the ignorant continue.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derekwilkinson:
an unreleased kernel that only works for ICS would prove it's real. but whatever. you just proved your an idiot. this is retarded.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Even if he does post it the thing is useless smh
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
No one went into this with the plan of posting it, we simply got and confirmed it to back the OP so people would stop flaming him.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToyTank:
This thread has gone off the rails and is past due for closing.

I loved XDA, but everyday I am reminded why there was and is a mass exodus.

OP-Sorry your thread got hi-jacked. I hope you found the help you were looking for. Hoax or not this thread was a request for help, too bad not many treat it like that

The street lights are on-time for children to go to bed.

Yes it is "retarded". Your posts add to the discussion how? IDK if this is real, but your posts make finding actually useful and informative posts more difficult. Please if you don't have any information to share, or NEW comments, don't spam up the threads over and over with "it's fake" or "You need to do this". No one here owes your ANYTHING and your ungrateful give-me attitude does not help.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
No, as proven before, it would create something else for you to nit-pick. Your mindset would not change. You'd still believe it fake.

Seriously, can't you just defer to the judgement of people who know more about the issue? The devs on this forum are the reason it *was* such a great place to go. The **** they've gotta put up with from people who contribute _nothing_ is astounding.

People like you and posts like yours are the exact reason people want to leave this place. You contribute nothing but noise and hysteria.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shantzg001:
I have a doubt.. The OP said he has a mac, then why does the screenshot for adb says it's running on ArchLinux?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Because that's not the op computer genius
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
New rule: if you have a doubt - read the thread and put some thought behind it before posting.