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[HTC Desire S] fasty:
What are HTC up to?

First one version to a few people here in UK, then a subtly different version to some people in mainland Europe and Scandinavia.

On Facebook they STILL pretend that the update doesn't exist, and nothing on their web page either.

It looks like some kind of completely involuntary beta test programme.

Thinking about the unbranded "europe" software version phones for a moment, is there something sent to the upgrade server that specifically identifies the phone as "UK", or do they just have different servers for different regions?

I'm getting a bit pi**ed off at still being stuck on 1.28.401.1.
[HTC Desire S] al89nut:
Ditto - and worried that I won't get the upgrade at all because I am stuck on 1.28.
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
why dont you just get S-OFF with revolutionary then flash the updated sense 3 here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1183684
[HTC Desire S] involverish:
You're not alone. I'm also stuck on 1.28.401.1 I'm in Australia, but I bought my phone outright and unlocked from a UK supplier. What's the story? When will we get the update?
[HTC Desire S] al89nut:
Because I don't trust myself not to screw it up!
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
you won't screw it up. I was worried too but its pretty much fool proof aslong as you follow this video guide like i did, you will have no problems;)

http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...android-phone-using-the-revolutionary-method/
[HTC Desire S] solodinu:
2.3.5 and sense 3.0 avaiable on vodafone romania

today i checked out for updates and my desire s found one avaiable.

updated it, it is ok now.

got rid of the stupid slide to answer, now it has answer and reject buttons.

new animations, new widgets.. a progress.

i saw also that it "eats" more memory than previous version.. now i have maximum 130 megs free. hope it won't be a problem in the future.

i mention that it is an unrooted, unbranded phone. i don't know if it is locked, got it from vodafone as a customer reward.
[HTC Desire S] Drummansam:
Any way to update manually?

Hi, I've been reading this thread since it started and still have a few questions regarding the update.

Is there any way to update my UNROOTED, S-ON, UNBRANDED Desire S?

I'm on the stock 2.3.3 and my software number is: 1.47.401.4.

I have been manually checking for the update for a month now, everyday.

I've have also tried the "*#*#2432546#*#*" technique numerous times to no avail.

I have found the thread with the update to download and install manually but apparently no-one has succeeded.

And if I was to root my device, is there anyway to return it to the stock, unrooted, s-on status? So I still have my warranty if I need it?

An answer would be much appreciated! :)
[HTC Desire S] heavyhms:
Not available in Italy

Inviato dal mio HTC Desire S usando Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] Desire_fanatic:
Is this only available by ota update or there is a downlod link?
[HTC Desire S] det66:
Well as I'm rooted and S-OFF i'm gonna have to wait for a developer to make a rom using it
[HTC Desire S] masterl1983:
This is a fantastic news....

Hopefully our devs will get this ROM soon and can start working on it to get the most out of it.

THANKS HTC and THANKS to all Devs who will deliver an Offical Sense 3.0 Android 2.3.5 Custom ROM with all those nice tweaks and hacks.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I'm quite sure the DHD and Incredible S have theirs too. I'm gonna check out their forums!
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Lol, i'm heading over there too.

This is nail-biting stuff. Am really excited about this possibility.

WOW! HTC is moving fast with its software development: sense versions churned out at blazing fast speed... 2.1>3.0>3.5 and now OTA sense 3.0 updates for older devices..! Amazing.
[HTC Desire S] mkjensen:
No luck in Denmark so far.

(Running official 1.47.401.4 ROM.)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah!

Would quite appreciate it if some kind soul can upload a quick video to how it performs! Would be quite interested to see how this lives up to VoidU in terms of speed!

And just to clarify, 'release keys' means final build??

Cheers fellas
[HTC Desire S] heavyhms:
Yes, "release keys" are final versions digitally signed by HTC. If you check on official 1.28 and 1.47 roms you can see the same words after software version number

Inviato dal mio HTC Desire S usando Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] hoodedman:
Good News! +1

Good News Everyone!! ;)

I like HTC's attitude towards its software development and not making big deal out of it, it just comes out :P

Gotta wait for the shipped ROM and compare with custom ROMs :)

And for those who ask questions like 'will it S-OFF my DS?', the answer is probably NO!!! Because DS is not on the list yet! Check htcdev.com for that.

As a matter of fact HTCdev is not going to S-OFF your DS, they just will unlock the bootloader, correct me if I am wrong!
[HTC Desire S] TTLGKS20:
Some one can download the update and share it ?

It is possible. When the update she is in the sd card in the folder download.

Sorry for my bad english
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
What exactly is a locked bootloader? I always thought that was S-off!
[HTC Desire S] hoodedman:
Don't be hasty my friend. Eventually we all will get this update. Just relax and enjoy the ride.

I am staying with Virtuous Unity for a while, until the official ROM will come out and will be ported into a good fast rom, probably proxuser's one.
[HTC Desire S] GrimPivo:
Hello from Russia! :)

And no, we're without updates here so far.

One question: only andy1120 got this miracle???
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Same! I'm still sticking with VoidU, then gonna wait and see how this official rom is. Then hopfully it can be tweaked by our devs, (or dhd) and then use it :)

But I'm still rocking VoidU. Works a treat for me. Although waiting for a new kernel from mdj to fix bugs :/
[HTC Desire S] hoodedman:
What is a bootloader?

The bootloader is the tool that loads the system software on the device and determines the priority for processes that will run your device. In the simplest terms, this small program controls which applications must run in the startup (boot up) process.

Why did HTC have the bootloader locked?

Locking the bootloader has been a standard security practice in the mobile industry. Locking the bootloader protects you from malicious software and also allows manufacturers to ensure the device will consistently deliver the intended experience.

...this is an extract from the dev site!

... and about S-OFF!

Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?

Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
[HTC Desire S] Traged:
I think, it is better to wait for rooted official roms ...

If you have S-off and root. If you have official rom, go for it....
[HTC Desire S] vishalduggal:
Let's see what HTC got for us. Badly waiting for official sense 3.0 video review.
[HTC Desire S] Tik_Tak:
im so exited :D
[HTC Desire S] hoodedman:
Guys! stop flooding the discussion! try to write relevantly usefull messages....

I hate to see msgs like 'It is so cool' or 'I like it ..." not cool!
[HTC Desire S] solodinu:
Be pacient, the update will arrive to you too soon.

I was unpacient too and I asked my gf (she works at vodafone) to ask the guys from work why the update is not avaiable yet. They said that the update is ready to go on air, but they wait fot the "go live" from htc. this is because htc is affraid that the servers will crash over to overflow.

as for your warranty... what if the phone will be "dead"? how can u flash the original rom back? :P
[HTC Desire S] grym:
Got an update on Oct. 21 in Russia :)
[HTC Desire S] ciupipvm:
downgrade sense 2.1 ?

Hi there,

anyone knows if it is possible to downgrade sense 3.0 to 2.1 and still keep 2.3.5 ?

thanks guys!
[HTC Desire S] :
Similar to admds’ post, I wouldn’t be in too much of a hurry to jump into the Sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.5 update. Coming from the s-off/rooted/custom ROM scene, I reckon the Sense 3.0 adds certain good things, but at a cost. For example I like the new lock screen options, but HATE the stupid home-screen carousel thing. It’s completely useless, serves no purpose other than to show off the GPU, interferes with user experience, and means the wallpaper scrolling has to be stopped to make allowance for this eyeroll-inducing nuisance. What’s the point of having decent hardware specs if it’s only used to hamper the experience for the sake of showing off? I’ve found that I have to SLOW DOWN my moving between home-screens to stop this happening! I would love to turn this off and be able to flick between screens quickly and have scrolling wallpaper back but I can’t. HTC have decided for me that it’s more important to look fancy than work efficiently.

Furthermore with Android 2.3.5 any themes/skins you find will likely not work. Even premium Sense 3.0 skins from the market. I speak from experience after spending money buying skins, thinking it was the dev’s fault they were not working, then finding out it was how Android 2.3.5 is built. Check out the themed custom ROM threads. Most are sticking with 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 simply because 2.3.5 is a pig to theme properly, and until the m10 tools are updated to allow full themes, Android 2.3.5 just doesn’t bring enough of an advantage to justify the loss of themes/skins. BinDroid for example. Here the dev has released two versions. A 2.3.5 version which is half themed, and a 2.3.3 version which is fully themed. The latter is much more popular. Plus he has also managed to dial back the sensitivity of the home screen carousel to stop it from going into a nuisance-spin.

Questions: People already with the official update, have HTC given you some working Sense 3.0 skins? How many? Are they any good?

Any full Sense 3.0 ROM on 2.3.5 does not last long on my phone before I get fed up and change it. I like my skins too much.

And lets not forget the evidence here on this thread that there appears to be certain bugs with it. If you do not want to take the risk of s-off and root, then I’d advise waiting until you are sure you want what’s coming, and that it wont break more than it fixes! Update doesn’t always = improvement. If you are waiting this long for HTC to pull it’s finger out, how long will you be waiting for the fixes?

If you find yourself unhappy with the update, get yourself rooted and find one of the Sense 3.0 ROMs running on 2.3.3 or 2.3.4. Even if you want to stick with a stock experience, fixes for any issues you’ll encounter can be dealt with by the dev in matter of hours/days with fast, honest communication, instead of months of not knowing with misleading or contradictory info coming out of the HTC camp.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Amen to that. That's why I'll stay with stock shipped rom, as if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Mine is s-offed, rooted and without any bugs. Everything works great and I prefer sense 2.1.

Waiting for ics then... :) (... or shall I try cm first?)
[HTC Desire S] tasos12:
Hello people.

I got the OTA update here in Greece(needless to say that local HTC doesnt have an announcement or anything...) and I am very happy about it.

However there are a couple of strange things I see.

First of all in the first two days of use last Friday and Saturday out of the blue the DS popped a message "HTC Sence has stoped working" then the screen turned black and then all of the sudden it was working again.

Also many times it seems that my popular contact(the people I call often) seem like they dissapear and appear again aftair a second.

Finally I think the phone is a bit slower....

Has anyone encounter anything like the above?
[HTC Desire S] Bmw_m6:
Some other huge bugs appear too:

Hi All,

I got OTA 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 on last Friday.

Since I have the screen problem = after a call sometimes I cannot unlock the screen with power button. If connect to the charger it's unlock and after the

power button works again. My phone is S-ON, fully original.

And I have 2 friends, they have Desire S and got this update too,

and after it the problem appear on their phones too.

So I think something wrong with new OTA update.

And I also notice the TTS Service, don't work too, it's always

halted.

(I made a factory reset and my friends too, but we have this problem too)

Any idea?

Everybody "got" this bug with OTA?

Bye,

Istvan from Hungary.
[HTC Desire S] varsn:
I have got in Ukraine today. Now I'm in installing process :)
[HTC Desire S] :
Do a Nandroid backup for your bug-free ROM, then give CM7 a whirl! I recently had a bit of a fling with it, and really liked it. I missed some Sense elements, but for the most part anything you find you miss you can get a 3rd party equivalent from the Market. There are very few serious problems with it, and of course there are nightly updates! Nexx and Superkid have done a fantastic job with it.
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
NO Update For Me! YET!

I posted a video on youtube of my problem please check it out and see!! Please PM so I can give you link!!! As I am not aloud untill 8 posts)
[HTC Desire S] Dreavesy:
I'm on Orange UK and i still don't have it :( It says no updates available on the software update checker thing, anyone else the same?
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
Did it work?????

Have you tryed this and did it work??? Im

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Yes same but im on THREE, I have been looking around to see if you can do a manual update without rooting it, like people have been doing in the past with other phones like The original Desire to get 2.3.3! All i have so far is a link to a download earlier on in the thread wich you have to rename to update.zip but I dont really want to try putting it into the root of my sd card then using the bootloader to install it, just in case anything goes wrong!
[HTC Desire S] Fetz Braun:
there are many of us, didn´t get the update yet. me too (o2 germany).

what matters man, you will live without it too (as you did before :D).

be patient!!!
[HTC Desire S] hamedunix:
Hell yeah! At the beginning I was like crazy to get the update ASAP, but now I actually don't care. At least my current 2.3.3 works smoothly, and I could be crying for bugs if I had updated to the new version.

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] Fetz Braun:
me too :D

10 letters
[HTC Desire S] hamedunix:
Just enable automatic check for updates and forget about it. Your turn will come before you know it.

Cheers. :-)

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] adazamim:
Sure we've been eager to have it on, but waiting is a bi*ch :mad::o:D
[HTC Desire S] hamedunix:
This whole OTA update thing stinks like a nasty beta testing!

People are complaining about some stupid bugs like screen lock bug or power button bug. Maybe we were lucky not having the update. :D

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] korenisko:
You are right :-) have power bug
[HTC Desire S] BenM508:
Im on Orange UK, and I have the official update installed, but not by OTA, but my phone isn't rooted and is S-ON! :)

Theres a link somewhere in this thread to a page with the ROMs on it :)
[HTC Desire S] Drummansam:
BenM508, do you want to give us the link/post number? I would like to know how its possible. Thanks
[HTC Desire S] Marcher:
O2 branded Belgium

Hi,

I just got notification on my O2 (IMEI SV) Sim-Unlocked DS (bought in Holland) that update 2.10.161.3 is available (currently 1.47.161.2). Will update next weekend (need to have a working phone during travel this week .. ;))

Marcher

Update : couldn't wait so did the upgrade this afternoon ;) Everything seems to work very well, none of the issues that are mentioned by others … very pleased…
[HTC Desire S] Garz.SP:
Just updating with Vodafone Spain
[HTC Desire S] agdewey:
Update received on Vodafone UK branded handset. So far I'm very impressed with Sense 3.0, the animations are smooth and the phone generally runs quicker. No sign of the power button bug that's been reported, so all in all a good update.
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
Dude how did you do it? share the link and instructions for all us others in the uk without the ota!!!

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I think i no how to get the update wuthout root!! will post when i am sure!!
[HTC Desire S] Drummansam:
IT'S HERE!

Ok, people in the UK.

I checked for the update just now for the 100th time and it popped up with the update :D

So I'm guessing anyone in UK now has the update to 2.3.5/3.0.

I'm using an unbranded T-mobile carrier device with S-on and unrooted.

Woooop! :)
[HTC Desire S] Garz.SP:
I think that the update drains your battery :eek:
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
not me im three uk unrooted branded

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hey guys found it page 15 post 145 there is a link to a download and if im correct you download that rename it to update.zip move to root of your sd card the try and do the force updat on mobile *#*#2432546#*#* if that doesnt update you have to do something ele wich i dont no how to o to get it instaled, if this works for you post how you did it remember unrooted phones
[HTC Desire S] Drummansam:
Hmm. Maybe it's only been released to unbranded phones for now. :/

At least it's not that far off for you now though... It's a bit more promising!
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
yeah i guess. i should have it before next tuseday if its already rolling out to unbranded phones in the uk, and 23 days ago it was going out to uk orange so i might be wrong!
[HTC Desire S] agdewey:
My phone is Vodafone branded and I got the update this morning.
[HTC Desire S] Garz.SP:
I notice a very big battery consumption increase. Am i right?
[HTC Desire S] panosck:
for me it has been much better since Sunday, when i got the update. 1 day and 10 hours before it reached 20%. Before update i was getting max 1 day.
[HTC Desire S] jm89:
Is there a list for the changes this update brings?
[HTC Desire S] MalekoUK:
I have just received my new Desire S from O2 and t has come with Sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.5 :D
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
To evryone who Whants to update to 2.3.5 S-ON Unrooted

S-ON AND UNROOTED DEVICES!

I AM NOT TAKING RESPNOSABILITY OF ANY PROBLEMS AFTER DO AT YOU OWN RISK!!!

1.Download this to desktop: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H0TH2841

2.Rename to update.zip

3.Move into root of sd card ( in sd card )

4.Unplug from PC

5.Go to settings-power-fastboot ( uncheck )

6.Turn off mobile

7.Hold volume rocker down then push power button and keep hold of down key on volume rocker and wait untill screen goes white!

8.Then it should come up with Install file update.zip. Press OK!

9.If That didn't happen go back to 6. but dont turn off and dial

*#*#2432546#*#*

DONT FORGET TO HIT THANKS:)
[HTC Desire S] m_2010:
Is this network specific, or is this the version for an unbranded UK handset?
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
If you are asking me about the step by step tutorial its Europe so that includes UK and i dont think its network specific it shouldnt be it is the update directly from HTC.COM in there database!
[HTC Desire S] Bhargava28:
My Software number is 1.28.401.1, Will still I get the update? Unbranded Phone.
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
YEP you should get it!
[HTC Desire S] Bhargava28:
Have you updated your phone and did you have that software number?
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
who me?

????????????
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Wait for ICS

Even if HTC dosent give me Sense 3.0 I am okay as longa s they deliver ICS for my DS
[HTC Desire S] Bhargava28:
Yeah, I've not got it yet
[HTC Desire S] dozerman:
update recieved uk

I recieved my update ota this morning and installed with no problems at all the phone now is Brilliant !!! much quicker and smoother all apps and data remained as they were, the only app that did not work was car dock so downloaded different version from new market which also works well.
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
What are you, Three, T-Mobile, Vodaphone? O2. UK? Locked Unlocked? S-ON S-OFF? Rooted Unrooted? Details Please!!!
[HTC Desire S] Phil71:
Thanks for this, getting a bit tired of waiting so might give it a go. One question, assuming it works and all goes ok does this method of updating void my warranty?
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
It shouldn't (I DONT THINK) all it is is manually updating the phone, when the OTA update does come to you you will not be able to Update it because you will already have it, it's really just a way to get it faster! REMEMBER DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! Not stopping you. It's just in case anything does go wrong, I have been told it's safe! I already have the OTA! So havn't tryed it but people have said it is Safe! As you can see in my Thread Earlier you can find somebody said it was safe! I will post link to my other thread! Anyway Post comment if all goes well and tell us what it was like! Good Luck!

AS I PROMISED HERE IS THE LINK TO MY OTHER THREAD WERE THE GUY SAID IT IT IS SAFE!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1318822
[HTC Desire S] dozerman:
update

In answer to your question, I am on sim free with orange sim
[HTC Desire S] al89nut:
The update order for HTC is utterly mystifying...
[HTC Desire S] flippperkam:
Tell me about it!
[HTC Desire S] al89nut:
Perhaps they invested in a randomiser?
[HTC Desire S] Nos0x:
Got an unbranded desire s on stock 2.3.3 and no update on ota yet :-(
[HTC Desire S] razamanaz:
oops ... wtf

it seems that this update doesnt works for rooted devices?

my phone freezed ((

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heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp plzzzzzzzzzz '(((
[HTC Desire S] mariuck:
this last update is worse than the last one.. it seems so unfinished!
[HTC Desire S] Bhargava28:
Can anyone tell me why I don't have the 1.47 update and still on 1.28?
[HTC Desire S] vamadir:
Some body hear about update in China? I have phone from china. Firmware Asian 1.48.707.1
[HTC Desire S] fasty:
Don't worry, you are not alone!

I suspect that HTC may have abandoned deployment of 1.47 because eventually they realised just how many problems it caused.

Our only concern now, naturally, is whether we will actually get the latest update. Having said that, the more I read about the bugs, the more I wonder if I am better off sticking with 1.28 for now :)
[HTC Desire S] dishko:
Hello fellow XDA-ians :)

Tonight, just outta nowhere, my Desire S says update available...

And it is 2.3.5 OTA with Sense 3.0.

;)

SIM Free - Serbia - Telenor...

And finally... :)
[HTC Desire S] mariuck:
[/COLOR]

dunno mate... but i rather go back to a previous version srsly.. this update seems so unfinished... dunno.. i don't have any of those bugs that ppl say.. works perfect.. but has a lots of glitches... i have the keyboard bug.. but that was in previous version also.. the one like in the video below..

btw.. is there any way to put samsung version of android ??? :)))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0mrte9_8s
[HTC Desire S] youagain:
I find it annoying that the grey bubble which used to wrap around text beneath icons on the homescreen has been replaced with a text shadow effect to make it stand out. It means it doesn't look quite as good when you use a light background.

There are also a few bugs which make me want to downgrade to 2.1 and just live with what I had.
[HTC Desire S] cornhollio:
Just did an update check and now downloading!

Vodafone UK branded Desire S

S on

Not routed

Two week old device so untouched.