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[Kindle Fire General] pitguy3:
From Amazon's website

Technical Details

Display- 7" multi-touch display with IPS (in-plane switching) technology and anti-reflective treatment, 1024 x 600 pixel resolution at 169 ppi, 16 million colors.

Size- (in inches) 7.5" x 4.7" x 0.45" (190 mm x 120 mm x 11.4 mm).

Weight - 14.6 ounces (413 grams).

System Requirements=- None, because it's wireless and doesn't require a computer.

On-device Storage- 8GB internal. That's enough for 80 apps, plus either 10 movies or 800 songs or 6,000 books.

Cloud Storage- Free cloud storage for all Amazon content

Battery Life- Up to 8 hours of continuous reading or 7.5 hours of video playback, with wireless off. Battery life will vary based on wireless usage, such as web browsing and downloading content.

Charge Time- Fully charges in approximately 4 hours via included U.S. power adapter. Also supports charging from your computer via USB.

Wi-Fi Connectivity- Supports public and private Wi-Fi networks or hotspots that use the 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, or 802.1X standard with support for WEP, WPA and WPA2 security using password authentication; does not support connecting to ad-hoc (or peer-to-peer) Wi-Fi networks.

USB Port- USB 2.0 (micro-B connector)

Audio- 3.5 mm stereo audio jack, top-mounted stereo speakers.

Content Formats Supported- Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, Audible (Audible Enhanced (AA, AAX)), DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV, MP4, VP8.

Documentation- Quick Start Guide(included in box); Kindle User's Guide (pre-installed on device)

Warranty and Service- 1-year limited warranty and service included. Optional 2-year Extended Warranty available for U.S. customers sold separately. Use of Kindle is subject to the Kindle License Agreement and Terms of Use.

Included in the Box- Kindle Fire tablet, U.S. power adapter (supports 100-240V), and Quick Start
[Kindle Fire General] adfad666:
Not seen it confirmed or denied yet, but I doubt it since it has 'Unlimited' storage via Amazon's cloud. Also no volume buttons, the only button is the power button...

edit: ahh technical specs above confirm it doesn't
[Kindle Fire General] befreshshaveivorysalesoap:
We Need To Gear Up

Someone need to find the bootloader for the Fire. We need to port CM7 on this device. I can't live with that "Plain Jane" interface Amazon is using.
[Kindle Fire General] freonchill:
not too worried about the volume buttons. would like to know more about the processor. if the processor isnt better than the nook, it appears to be the nook integrated with amazon. and the price is nice.

either way, i would love to see one in person.

though, until cm7/android is ported to it directly, i think ill hold off getting one, since i already have a nook w/ cm7 and was hoping for something a little snappier, maybe honeycomb.

there is also a rumor (yea, i know, rumors) that they will have a 10" in the new year. like a DX to the original kindle... a fire DX to the fire...
[Kindle Fire General] adfad666:
I'm quite surprised how similar it is to a PlayBook, check the pics. It looks practically identical, the only obvious difference (in these not so good pics) is the logo and the small slit at the bottom of the PlayBook bezel. The size, shape screen all look identical, so perhaps the internals will be pretty similar too, ie better than the Nook...
[Kindle Fire General] smartypantsdotcom:
Seems like a critical question.

Without a microSD slot (or other means of removable storage), the 8G internal memory would severely limit extending its capabilities.
[Kindle Fire General] glitterbug:
Check this out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1280876
[Kindle Fire General] jbg1:
this link says dual core 1ghz processor and 512 ram...im not impressed anymore

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/amazon-kindle-fire-impressions/
[Kindle Fire General] Lttlwing16:
Looks somewhat promising hardware wise, but I wouldn't want to be throttled with a device you can't add a micro-sd card to. 8 gb is great if there is a micro sd slot, but terrible if there isn't. I've read around and seen no indication if there is one or will be one included. Given the price, my guess is no.

I have no doubt they'll be able to root this, and tear apart the amazon UI, and totally AOSP the thing. If they can get CM on a Touchpad, they'll have no problem with this. So no real concerns software wise. Which is good because I have to have the Android Market. (Engadget states it does, but I'm guessing a typo. Amazon is like apple in a sense they want you to use their app store. Pro pri e tary)

In light of companies pushing these tablets out for holiday sales/ Black Friday/Cyber Monday, really going to wait till someone gets hands-on with the thing, which hopefully will be soon. (NOOK Color 2 due out soon as well)

Overall, looks promising, for ladies who want to shop for shoes at work. As it stands, going to wait till I know more.
[Kindle Fire General] befreshshaveivorysalesoap:
it seems like it is. Because the Honey Comb is the first Android disto' to be built with focus on not having physical buttons, and gestures.
[Kindle Fire General] Poppu:
According to the interface, it's not Honeycomb, just 2.x version.

And you can make a 2.X device without physical button : just look at Archos Gen8, they don't have physical button and are running fine under Froyo.
[Kindle Fire General] Techngro:
So here is Techngro's $.02 about the Kindle Tablet (I refuse to call it the "Fire")

The only thing that really excites me about this device is the price.

Things Miyagi like:

- The size. 7" is perfect for me (That's...what she said). It fits perfectly in my hand and in my pocket (yes my pocket is as big as my hand).

- The IPS screen. After owning the Archos 70, I realize that the viewing angles on a device are important.

- The whole Amazon Cloud Services thing. It helps alleviate the problem of only 8GB of storage if I can store my music, books, audio books and pics in Amazon's "Cloud". Not to mention the streaming video services from Amazon Prime.

- Charging from USB. I can charge my phone and my tablet from one charger when i'm on the go.

- The Price. It's pretty much an impulse buy at this point.

Things Miyagi no like:

- No physical buttons. I don't care so much that they didn't put back, home, menu and search, my A70 doesn't have physical buttons either. I do care that they didn't put volume buttons. Seriously Amazon?

- Only 512MB of RAM. I know with a price point at $199 that Amazon had to make some concessions (well, technically we had to make some), but I would really have liked to see 1GB of RAM on this.

- No MicroSD. I would have rather had 2GB of storage plus a MicroSD slot than 8GB without one. As a matter of fact, I would have rather they just put a Micro SD slot. I can get a 16GB MicroSD card for $35.

- No front-facing chat camera. I could care less about a back camera (who takes pics with a huge brick anyway), but I would like a decent chat camera for Google Chat/Talk.

Summary:

I would gladly have been willing to pay $250 for a tablet with a MicroSD slot and a front-facing camera.
[Kindle Fire General] Serizzim:
Delete.
[Kindle Fire General] lado44:
Specs and feature wise, this is just OK, not great, just OK. The Silk cloud accelerated browsing is going to be a deal-breaker for me. It's obvious from their FAQ's and terms they anticipate this being an issue for people. Who wants Amazon tracking and caching every site they visit in the name of supposed performance improvements? A properly designed browser on a Wi-Fi only device should not require cloud acceleration. Sounds like a data mining scam. However according to the terms this feature can be "generally" disabled whatever that means.

"You can also choose to operate Amazon Silk in basic or “off-cloud” mode. Off-cloud mode allows web pages generally to go directly to your computer rather than pass through our servers. As such, it does not take advantage of Amazon’s cloud computing services to speed-up web content delivery.

Bold is mine. I can't post a link here yet (rolls-eyes).

You can find the actual terms on Amazon site at Help > Digital Products > Kindle Support > Amazon Kindle Terms, Warranties, and Notices > Amazon Silk Terms & Conditions
[Kindle Fire General] snatch_this:
There is nothing 'Kindle' about this thing. One may say that I am somehow perverted but for me Kindle is a great e-book reader with an outstanding monochrome, non relfective, eyes-friendly, e-ink display. Nothing more, nothing less. So the whole idea of turning it into a tablet leads nowhere to me. Sorry for grumbling, but that is how I see it.
[Kindle Fire General] smartbot:
According to PhoneArena it's 2.3.5 [1]. But I don't think the Android version matters as much since they are using their own custom UI on top of Android. I think 2.3.x is a good foundation to start off with (especially since the 3.x code is not open to the public yet).

[1] http://www.phonearena.com/news/A-fi...que-UI-cloud-accelerated-Silk-browser_id22497
[Kindle Fire General] Kilmar:
No Google Market...
[Kindle Fire General] Cobey_S:
From Techcrunch and a few other sources, it's a forked version based on 2.1
[Kindle Fire General] eirh:
There is an Android Appstore ;)
[Kindle Fire General] Techngro:
This thing is gonna sell really well, as such there will be plenty of Dev interest. That means this baby will be rooted and ROM'd six ways from Sunday within a week of it's release.

I don't think we have to worry about the software side of the equation. For me the major drawbacks are on the physical side (volume button, no MicroSD)
[Kindle Fire General] k_abydos:
The only significant drawback to me is the lack of a MicroSD.

I have a thought to use a male micro usb to male micro usb and use my Samsung Infuse as an external drive to swap media when the cloud service isnt available. I have no idea if this will work or not, so if anyone out there has done something similar and can confirm or deny its merits let me know.
[Kindle Fire General] shadow65781:
ordered mine already

Ive been wanting a tablet since the 7 inch gtab but cant justify the expense, untill today.the biggest drawback for me is no bluetooth, didnt see it in the specs, but the price is right.

Im also counting on a good development community to gain access to google market and gmail and netflix, even If theres no development and Im stuck with stock, Its still a good deal imo.
[Kindle Fire General] sambwel:
This is basically worthless without 3G.
[Kindle Fire General] dfskevinohyeah:
Wrong! Why not tether your phone to it ?

Sent from my PG86100 using Forum Runner
[Kindle Fire General] Ryanscool:
This tablet is going to sell like crazy for $200. All of my friends are going to get this instead of another ipod touch. If the ipod becomes $99 (which it wont probably) then I will maybe think about getting this. Devs, like someone else said, will have this going with a custom rom without the kindle stuff very quickly. This seems like a great buy overall.
[Kindle Fire General] sambwel:
The only thing Kindle has over Nook is the

free

worldwide 3G access. Without that, this is just a cheap, plastic-y, crippled Playbook.
[Kindle Fire General] wkearney99:
Exactly. The lack of slot, mic and front camera makes it a non-starter. I already have a Nook, other than more CPU the Fire looks like it offers less than the Nook.
[Kindle Fire General] eirh:
Kindle is worth the money only the worldwide free 3G access. In my homeland I pay for 3G internet on my phone, not to mention the prices in roaming.
[Kindle Fire General] ladidaaa:
I have been playing with the thought of buying a tablet for a long time -- but without MicroSD, USB, 3G and GPS the Kindle Fire also won't be the tablet i would buy.

In my opinion the Archos 101 G9 or a Advent Vega with VegaComb is the far better tablet at a similar price!
[Kindle Fire General] markdt098:
For those complaining about the lack of storage space, remember that a lot of stuff will be stored on the cloud, like music. Yeah it sucks when you're without wifi but I've been getting along fine with just wifi on my iPad2, and even though I have the space for it I still stream pretty much all my media on it.
[Kindle Fire General] starfcker69:
It does have micro USB. Not sure if it can act as a host.
[Kindle Fire General] Cobey_S:
Some Q&A from Amazon's head Kindle guy

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2016348867_brieramazonqa29.html
[Kindle Fire General] sambwel:
"The cloud" is a great storage solution - IF you can afford an always-on, reliable internet connection. Which you obviously can as you already have an iPad 2!

But the Kindle Fire is a budget device - much cheaper, and with less features because of that. Why Amazon didn't price it at $250 and include their famous free 3G I'll never know. At $250 it would still be a better deal than a Nook Color if it had that - and by the way, the Nook Color is really this device's competition, NOT an iPad!!
[Kindle Fire General] Mama Luigi:
Because color tablets that can download apps and stream movies would use WAY more bandwidth than an e-ink reader that only downloads books and the occasional website.

Now you know.

Another interesting thing to point out - at $200, the Fire is $30 cheaper than the cheapest iPod Touch, yet the screen is 4x larger! You're right that it's not really going head to head against the iPad - it's competing with the Nook Color and iPod Touch.
[Kindle Fire General] Techngro:
@Shadow65781 It actually does have Bluetooth.It's in the specs at Amazon's Kindle Tablet page. It just doesn't have 3G or GPS.

@sambwel I don't think that's true. I think most people, especially those with Android, are hip to tethering to their phones now. I tether for free with T-mobile (i've been tethered all morning actually). No company is gonna give free 3G/4G with a tablet, and who wants to have another data bill on top of the $30-40 that most people already pay for unlimited data on their cell phones. I tether my Archos 70 to my HTC G2 and get 4G speeds with no problems. Plus, it's just another radio to drain the battery.

I don't remember Amazon having "free 3G". If you're talking about the Kindle Whispersync thing, that is totally different than free 3G. Downloading a kindle book is like what 1MB. You are very limited to what you can do with Kindle's 3G. There is no way that Amazon is gonna give the hundreds of thousands of people who buy the Kindle Tablet real "free 3G". They've already subsidized the price of the device, they're not gonna subsidize data at $50 a pop as well.

That being said, I honestly think that Amazon will release this for the holiday season to get the name and mind share, and then early next year, perhaps Feb, will release a higher end version for more money. It could be a 9in version with front camera and MicroSD, or a 7in version with all of the things that are missing from the 1.0 version, and they'll probably raise the price to $250 or $275. Or they might have two version, one at $199 and $299. Similar to what they did with the Kindle e-Readers yesterday.
[Kindle Fire General] RussianMenace:
From what I've been reading Fire can't connect to ad-hoc networks. And WiFi tethering, at least the free stuff, is ah-hoc based so you would need to have paid tethering.
[Kindle Fire General] epi117:
I pre-ordred one, for a long time i have been thinking my ipad 2 is too big, and at $200 its worth it to me just to play with it, worst case i give it as x-mas present

and i agree most people have jail broken phones, no 3G is a minor problem, GPS most of us use our phones.

8 gig i can live with.
[Kindle Fire General] tk76:
Might not be the ideal device to root in order to expand functionality... but this is a credit to Amazon. They are delivering a bare bones tablet that will work perfectly for their Amazon ecosystem. It will work great using their cloud services and browser. Unlike the Nook, the Fire does not have nearly as much hidden potential that can be unleashed by rooting. In fact the current state of the art custom ROM on a Fire will probably give you a less desirable user experience than what Amazon has designed for it.

If you treat a Fire like a typical tablet you are going to be frustrated by its hardware limitations. If you use a fire as an Amazon prime driven tablet that has some android features then you probably will be happy.

The areas I would like to see unlocked would be the ability to SDK's without using the Amazon store. For example, Slingplayer is not available at Amazon's Appstore. But i think there is a good chance I will be able to side-load SDK's without rooting the device (but I guess time will tell.) Overall, I'm hoping for a custom ROM that maintains most of the Fires features, or at least a dual boot option. But I don't think I would want a Fire simply as a "blank slate" on which to run a custom android ROM. I'd probably prefer another cheap alternative that had basics like a front camera and expansion memory. But the Fire does seem like a good product for its target audience.
[Kindle Fire General] studioleland:
No external storage
[Kindle Fire General] jerrykur:
Interesting read.

Does anyone know what this answer means?

Q: Which version of Android is it, and is it upgradeable?

A: It's a Gingerbread-based Honeycomb variant of 2.3. People will get periodic updates of the software.
[Kindle Fire General] dayv:
???

So its a 2.3 - 3.x variant? Couldn't you get eclair mixed into that answer as well some how?
[Kindle Fire General] eirh:
Can't figure it out, but sure does sound sweet :o
[Kindle Fire General] theomni:
how does the CPU on this compare to qualcomm or nVidia Tegra?
[Kindle Fire General] Stevewmn:
Very interesting. The most interesting part for me was his answer to the question of whether you can load your own content:

So what does this mean? Is he just downplaying that functionality because they hope everyone buys everything through Amazon? Or does "haven't optimized" mean it'll be ugly, like the media browser isn't great at finding and cataloging PC uploads or something.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realdope:
hi to al i am a new asustf101 g b70 user and like al other people like to root my device :(

for the moment there is no way to root al tf b70 revisions above b70kas17XXX

please make one single post where we can read and find answers about the development of an tool to root ouer devices lilstevie an al others working on that tool please release somenthing so that we can continue of hoping that someone still let us root ouer transformer

thanks to xda
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
Why?

10char

Sent from my thingy using that app thingy
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AcIdC0R3:
Please search before you post. :rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baseballfanz:
You should at least practice what you preached.:D
[LG Optimus Black] sonic997:
Dear all,

I would like to announce that the current software cannot root the Hong Kong Version of Black P970 born with v10b at all.

If I flash v10a by KDZ updater, it stops at 50% and looping with LG logo forever.

For original born with v10b, I use the following method by many many times.

gingerbreak 1.2

SOC 1.9.5(with command post, in xda)

SOC 2.1.1(fixed)

ALL FAILED!

I am going to give up. Can anyone help?

Sorry for my poor english
[LG Optimus Black] zdtouch:
I did the mistake and upgraded to v10b and now I am facing the same problem.

Prior to the upgrade I had no problems rooting my device with the GingerBreak 1.2 although know after upgraded to V10b it is failing...
[LG Optimus Black] sonic997:
[I CAN ROOT NOW]By UPK3

i can root it now, but how long is just depending on your luck

[LG P970] Upgrade Kit 3 (13/9) | Firmwares, Flashing, Rooting..

Mainly use driver, SOC2.1+SRP+CWM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1111771

The files is on Megaupload, however, Hong Kong ip is blocked. So, I upload the main required files to Mediafire.

Please dont complain that I upload the source files since many HK people really need these file. However, we really cannot access to megaupload normally.

Please download both of them if you want to root you v10b,c,d...

http://www.mediafire.com/?eiukasb7zewp9ja

http://www.mediafire.com/?vuss1yezyxprval

Remember, be patient, I use these files for 5 times to root it. Good luck!
[LG Optimus Black] TomByrne94:
So for everyone who is having this problem they need to make sure they have the drivers installed and then try the SOC2.1+SRP method? Where does CWM come into the initally rooting process?
[LG Optimus Black] pabgar:
Nowhere. It has nothing common with rooting process.
[LG Optimus Black] noranyan:
I also have a P970 with Hong Kong stock rom v10b but I did succeed in rooting my phone.

Try the method described in post #34 of this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1171672&page=3#30

All I needed was SOC 1.9.5.
[LG Optimus Black] sonic997:
This Method I have tried,BUT 1.9.5 is quite difficult for new comer and quite depends on your luck.

So, I would like to suggest a easier, less complicated and higher chance for rooting OB. That is, the #3. the attached file in #3 are same as megaupload one. It is UPK v3.

I have used for SOC 1.7, 1.9.5 and 2.1. I think you should try the 2.1 if you are stuck in freezing during rooting. remember using CWM.exe during stuck

Besides, the newer version of UPK v3.3 is ready, although there is no difference for rooting your OB

Sorry for my poor english
[LG Optimus Black] Fahimxda:
I am also in Hongkong with Lg P970 Version B rooted successfully

Hi Guys,

I have rooted successfully the version 10B LG P970. I used UPK here is how i did it:

save the UPK file in your computer C drive. Click the superoneclick 2.1.1 when it opens click root selecting auto it will stop at step 4 at that time open task manager in windows by using the combination key ctrl+alt+delete. you should see the process adb two process running kill the two process of adb. Thats it you are done your device will get rooted. :)
[LG Optimus Black] tuxintosh:
I tried superoneclick 2.1.1 before and stuck at step 4. So I flash back to 10A. Your method is so simple. I want to try it.
[LG Optimus Black] Fahimxda:
You try it out if you find any difficulties let me know.
[LG Optimus Black] tuxintosh:
I just need superoneclick2.1.1, no need UPK, right?
[LG Optimus Black] Fahimxda:
Its better if you have UPK. If you dont have please download else first try without UPK and let me know the result.
[LG Optimus Black] tuxintosh:
I only want to root 10B. What is the program I need to run in the UPK package?
[LG Optimus Black] Fahimxda:
I rooted my phone which has 10b version with UPK
[LG Optimus Black] tuxintosh:
Sorry, I don't understand. I upgraded to 10b from LG PC suite.

I want to try to root it using superoneclick 2.1.1. When it hangs at step 4, then press ctrl-alt-del to kill the two process of adb as described from previous thread #8. And the phone will be rooted.

So I don't understand why I need UPK.
[LG Optimus Black] Ilko:
you need it cuz SOC get stuck on #4. Then you have to launch SRP(reset) to continue root process.

this method needs 2 steps to make it work