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[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
Ok how is this:

Did they have liquor at the BBQ? :confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

:rolleyes::eek:
[Off-topic] boborone:
I do. Only thing I hate is everyone sees the beer I bring and wants some. It's like "NO! I brought good beer cause I like it. You brought ****ty beer so as not to look like an ass, then you want to drink the good beer others brought." Shiner Black ftw!

Haha seriously? I wouldn't have expected that at all. But at least people got pics of you for proof of existence.
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
Yes that is another problem with BYOB.

Not only they want to drink you're good beer.

When they are done chugging there piss water and aren't drunk and run out of beer. Then they come and bug you :mad::eek:
[Off-topic] boborone:
I don't like getting drunk out in public cause I have to drive. But if I'm going to drink and enjoy myself, I want something good to drink.

And in response to your post. That's also why I used to carry a flask with me. Coke and and lil dab of this. ;)
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
we got there (wife, Orb and myself) only to find about 75% of them geeks babbling about non sense and being kind of confrontational with me becuase I was asking where the XDA group was at... :eek:
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
This is probaly the reason I wouldn't goto the bbq even if I lived there. I wouldn't feel "geeky or nerdy enough" I don't think I would fit in with anyone :(

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40% :p
[Off-topic] boborone:
Orb in Texas? I could've sworn he was in Cali or somewhere else. And that's stupid man. DBs everywhere in every circle.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Orb traveled from Mexico last year to the BBQ just like he is doing it this year mate.

Also...it was just awkward and surreal thb. We did not know non of them nerds and they all look wasted out of their mind...so we left ;)
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
What about the XDA group were they wasted or high? :confused:
[Off-topic] boborone:
That's crazy. Real crazy. Not sure if I want to go now. And yep just checked his Google+, he left about an hour ago. Maybe for the airport. Y'all going together again?

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"fat bottomed girls, you make this rocking world go round"
[Off-topic] Apex:
Anyone from La Mafia going to the BBQ? It's being held 15 minutes from where I live. And I can get confrontational x ∞ with any tanked up geeks that don't respect xda...

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Won't talk about XDA comrades mate...just not right ;)

Next day at the actual BBQ thigs were interesting to say the least. Got to meet some cool characters and some weirdos too :cyclops:
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
M_T_M :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Not really since they are staying at a nearby hotel...most likely I'll see them there....depending if I'm able to re-adjust me schedule :cowboy:
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
I do know for a fact that Azrienoch smokes some weed for sure :eek:

Not talking bad, he is awesome, Just saying :p
[Off-topic] Apex:
M_T_M, where do you live? And bobo, you no go-go? :(

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[Off-topic] boborone:
Hahatrololulz

Orb posted this.

So f'ing true.

Speaking on that subject. MTM, your wife got a good recipe for some kind soup? I've never made tortilla soup and it's getting kinda chilly. Need to make a nice warm-you-up dish for the great weather. If so, shoot me a pm.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Moved conversation to this thread to promote said event..:good:
[Off-topic] Apex:
I gotta get back to work, but I'll check in as I'm able... :D

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[Off-topic] boborone:
Haha I was wondering what happened. I got real confused there for a sec.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
I haz recipee for ya....caldo Tlalpeño. One of the most delicious less well know soups in the Mexican Cousine :cowboy:

8 cups chicken broth
a 1 1/4-pound whole chicken breast with skin and bones
1 onion, halved lengthwise and sliced thin lengthwise
1 1/2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 carrots, cut into 1/8-inch-thick slices
1 zucchini, cut into 1/4-inch-thick slices
a 19-ounce can chick-peas, rinsed and drained (about 2 cups)
2 drained canned whole chipotle chilies inadobo (available at Mexican and Hispanic markets and some specialty foods shops), rinsed, seeded, and cut into strips (wear rubber gloves)
1 avocado (preferably California) for garnish
8 lime wedges for garnish

In a large saucepan bring the broth just to a boil and in it poach the chicken at a bare simmer for 15 minutes, or until the chicken is just cooked through. Remove the pan from the heat and let the chicken cool in the broth. Transfer the chicken to a cutting board, reserving the broth, and discard the skin and bones. Shred the chicken and reserve it, covered and chilled. In a large heavy saucepan cook the onion in the oil over moderate heat, stirring, until it is softened, stir in the carrots and the zucchini, and cook the mixture, stirring, for 1 minute. Add the reserved broth to the vegetable mixture with the chick-peas and simmer the soup for 8 minutes, or until the carrots are just tender. The soup and the chicken may be prepared up to this point 1 day in advance and kept covered and chilled. Stir the reserved chicken into the soup with the chilies and salt and pepper to taste, simmer the soup gently until the chicken is heated through, and divide it among 8 bowls. Garnish each serving with some of the avocado, peeled, pitted, and sliced, and a lime wedge.

Is to die for :eek: :good:
[Off-topic] boborone:
Saweet man. Sounds good. Thanks.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
No problem Bobo...let me know when you make it ;)

Also...see if you can make it to pool party :)
[Off-topic] boborone:
Ok I will, on both things.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Who is coming to the BBQ? :confused:
[Off-topic] ronnie498:
I will be there at the BBQ
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Totally stole that recipe from you M_T_M. :thumbup:

I've got an excellent, unique, very inauthentic (lol) carne asada recipe that is my own creation, and sounds like this will compliment my repertoire well for the 4 days a year SoCal dips below 70 degrees.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Area of the BBQ.

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"fat bottomed girls, you make this rocking world go round"
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
I couldn't get off work on Sunday so I won't be able to make it.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Yeah... for now. It'll get cold. I like that about Texas. It has changes in weather (**** it's hot! Damn this rain! Hey, cool, snow!) I was born in Decatur and lived in Runaway Bay (next to Bridgeport, which is marginally less of a craphole than RB) until I was 7, and remember quite a few white Christmases. I'd go to bbq if I was still there, but cannot afford travel right now.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
The ComicCon folks seem to think San Diego is a nice place to gather. I agree. How'bout it?

Sent from your mom.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I love San Diego. If I ever moved to anywhere away from the 10 fwy-210 fwy belt, it'd be SD.

Also, great place for a bbq.
[Off-topic] boborone:
I know all those towns. Had some running buds in Bridgeport.

Old saying..... what, you don't like the weather, give it 5 minutes, it'll change.

Sept for summer. It's just fking hot and stays that way.

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"fat bottomed girls, you make this rocking world go round"
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
You are the only person outside of my family I've ever met that has heard of Runaway Bay. That's amazing. When we left, population was like 500, lol. My friend's dad owned the One Stop. That 'hole gave me my adventurous boyhood.
[Off-topic] boborone:
My old wing man's mom was a feather wood out of Bridgeport. Got to know the area cause of what she did. Good lady. Meaner than a mad rhino on steroids.

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"fat bottomed girls, you make this rocking world go round"
[Off-topic] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Any new updates from the BBQ?? Anybody awake yet:laugh:
[Off-topic] ronnie498:
they probably hung over lol
[Off-topic] Apex:
Anyone who's going to the Android BBQ want to PM me their GTalk, so we can meet up and 'talk the talk' and 'drink the drink'?

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
saw Steve Kodnik last night and a whole bunch or Android nerds....I did not say hi to anyone :eek:
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Y u no say hi?

Snowflake approved this message....
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Meh....they is a weird bunch of peeps. Also, I don't mingle with weirdos :silly:

Trolololololol
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shinydude100:
I'm unaware what signals (3G, edge, H+, 1x) companies provide or if they all provide the same when offering roaming services.

My carrier is MetroPCS. I don't know if this is only MY carrier that does this, but as long as you pay your bill month to month, roaming is unlimited and free of charge. (Pretty sweet huh?) Anyway, my Epic was obviously programmed to work with MetroPCS towers but where I moved to, it doesn't even exist.. lol. I still pay for it monthly, and its all good but roaming is on 1x. That makes perfect sense, due to the fact that all my settings were setup to work with a Metro tower. So not seeing any reason to be on an old, outdated rom, I upgraded to froyo, gb leaks, etc. I know what carrier I'm roaming from, its U.S. Cellular. I was at work the other day and a manager had me check his phone, its the Samsung Mesmerize, nice phone, considered and branded as part of the Galaxy family. It had a few interesting apps on Touchwiz and whatnot, but that's the point of this topic. Point is, I checked out his carrier, its U.S. cellular, his 3g speeds are pretty decent and much faster than what I use to get with Metro. Now, I was wondering if it made sense to copy his profile and settings, to insert it into my phone, nothing personal, like his account info, just the general stuff like the addresses and whatnot to see if I can get 3g connectivity, I'm roaming 24/7 with them, might as well make the most of it, right?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ugothakd:
...no. they are 2 different network technologies. You can roam on verizon, I think. But not a gsm carrier.

sent from my miui-ified epic
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shinydude100:
U.S. Cellular isn't just GSM.. his phone didn't use a sim card. Also, I AM roaming with U.S. Cellular, just wondering if I can further use that to my advantage by setting up the right configuration..
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ugothakd:
A quick google search proves you correct...lol. I don't think it would help imo...and the likelyhood of you accidently messing up your friends line when transferring the settings is very high

sent from my miui-ified epic
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shinydude100:
Eh, his phone won't go into ##data## mode, there's always qpst via cdma workshop but on second thought, I'm sure general settings for u.s. cellular can be googled.
[Epic 4G Apps] MikeyLee:
Hey all

I'm wondering how hard it would be to create something similar to this for my band? Mobile Roadie (who apparently uses the same basic template for all the bands that have apps) charges an arm and a leg, making it nearly impossible for a band that's trying to make it to afford it. Any suggestions???

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mobileroadie.app_2002&feature=search_result
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tombarr:
So at this point I would like to think that I am no stranger to Android development, however, as I move into the world of ROMs this is clearly not the case. I have had a number of people suggest that as part of the Seven+ Project we developer a WP7/ Metro UI ROM. I think that is a great idea, but just do not know where to begin.

With that said I would like people's feedback on the following:

Would you use such a ROM?

What features would you expect in such a ROM?

What ROM/ source should it be based off of?

What is preferable, open or closed source?

Would you be interested in working on a ROM?

With the unimaginable success of MIUI it has come to my intention that open source may not also be the way to go. Also, I would like to reach as many devices as possible but am not sure how. Basically, I am no ROM maker and that is why I really need people's feedback. This could be the next major ROM, or a novelty that few if any find valuable. So please, let me know what you think and who knows, perhaps we can get started on a ROM!

- Tom

http://sevenplusandroid.org

Founder and Developer
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] grimfort:
I'd use it,

I would like to see integration into social networks

maybe based on CyanogenMod, that way it may be easier to port to lots of devices?

Open source would be nice too:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Cimer:
I would certainly try out the rom, I mean it would be a brand new experience. Now I would expect a full WP7 experience and with the innovations of Android (Take a look at HTC Sense, You can get some ideas what people like there). I agree this should be based off of Cyanogenmod. It has a large user base and should be easier to port from device to device. I tend to disagree with your view of closed sourced is better. Sure MIUI has been successful but it's no where near where it could of been if it was open, and also don't forget it's also based off cyanogenmod which is open sourced which allowed such creations as MIUI to be made. Open sourced allows software to become better and having it closed source just limits the rom. I don't have many if any skills for developing a rom, but if you needed testers I would be glad to help.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GazaIan:
Definitely, I thought about even making one but lots of the items are paid for items and it's against XDA rules to add pay-for items into a ROM.

Launcher, Status Bar (Native, not an app), contacts, phone, framework-res mods (so the WP7 look is universal, and not just limited to the app alone), WP7 style texting app, keyboard, Lockscreen, and more.

Cyanogenmod 7. However with MIUI's theme engine it would be a better choice, but then it would be more of a theme and less of a ROM. Also you might have issues if you're using the status bar + app, since for some reason, it appears under MIUI's status bar.

Anything Windows styled shall remain closed source, while Android itself remains open source.

Sure, depending on the circumstances. Could simply port to myTouch 4G from DHD, or G2 (or it can be the other way around) and have a synchronized release.. or other options.

My 2 Cents.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vergil1991:
Very Good! ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] styill:
Yes Please! WP7 with google apps? Who doesn't want that?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tombarr:
So it seems that either only people interested in such a ROM found this forum post and replied, or people really do want a Metro UI ROM.

The closed/ open source issue is one we could ultimately decide on in the future, but making the UI open source would essentially eliminate the profitability of my work, and if the absolutely impossible were to occur and M$ realizes that Android could be a better Metro UI platform than WP7 should it be open source it would simply become theirs.

As for framework modifications that is certainly my intent. There is no reason TabHost could not be replaced with a Pivot control, use the same API perhaps with a custom XML namespace for additional control, and simply ignore the icons. Much of the same goes for menus and contextual menus. Other features like Panoramic controls would be additional features that would need to be explitictly used.

Now the suite of applications is important, and likely leads to a potential profit area. The ROM could be on XDA because it would be free, and for a fee all applications could be unlocked to become the full featured version. I certainly think CM would be a great base because of its broad compatibility. Otherwise thanks everyone for the feedback, I hope to get more soon.

- Tom

Founder and Developer
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcos.lennis:
I would use it if made compatible with my Samsung Admire.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Rafosky:
I would use it. I was waiting for this.

Samsung Epic 4G.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] treUse:
Id' love this :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FloatingFatMan:
Being completely honest here, but no, I wouldn't use it no matter how good it was.

The simple reason being that I really don't like that people keep trying to emulate the look and feel of OTHER mobile OS's in Android. What's wrong with Android's OWN look and feel? We should be trying to make THAT stand out as much as possible, not pretend to be the competition!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BoiPhresh:
+1 too right mate, Samsung admire rocks if you have wifi and I would love to see this phone get this rom
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pyromatic18:
I would definitely use it!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iskatebad45:
I would definitely use it! I feel like it's very important though that it has the feel of your UI demo App. With the notifications being the same access color and coming from the top. Pop-up 7 just doesn't really cut it when it comes to that. The variable alphas and low res buttons make it seem quickly put together. That being said I've been wondering for a while when/how you were planning on putting together/implementing a rom that had ALL of the components together and meshing well. I'm really excited to see this and will be checking back often (if not daily). Thanks for all your good work!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ale6111:
I would use it! if it's compatible with HTC wildfire, nobody work on ldpi device neither roms nor themes, only cm give somenthing compatible for us, an alternative would be appreciated, especially if it is somenthing light such as the wp7 ui
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tombarr:
Why? It is simple: Android has a terrible user experience and from the looks of things (Honeycomb, ICS leak) it is not getting any better. That, and who even gets to see Android anymore? Carriers even with Honeycomb slab their UI and suite on top of Android to the point were frankly it no longer is Android.

I guess then the question is why make a WP7 ROM. Well the Metro UI is simple and effective, not to mention it could be easily done more performant than other (cough, Sense) UIs. Also, I have a great deal of code for Android that can give it that look and feel.

While a suite of applications is great it does not cut it. There is simply too much that can only be done as a ROM. Lately Android has been becoming more closed (no HC source, removal of APIs and permissions from the SDK), so before its too late I should think most would be happy that they get the best of both worlds: Android has a large application catalog and WP7 a great UI.

Just my though process, and if I can find developers to collaborate with I would love to begin a fork of CM7 for this ROM.

- Tom

Founder and Developer
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Deleted member 4123551:
i would definitely like to help on this ROM, and I totally agree cyanogen should be used as a base.

but, it wouldn't be that hard to compile everything on top of cyanogen, but building the replacing apks is a lot harder. for those, I should knock on the door from the devs from www.wp7android.com they have already a great start with several applications. And maybe they are interested too in creating a ROM.

So if you would like to let me join you, you got your chef for the desire s.

Edit:

And because I don't know everything, I'd learn from this too.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pyromatic18:
Most of the devs in Seven+ project are from Wp7android.com which kinda collasped as far as I can see
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SimianJones:
A WP7 Rom would be great. I would use it. CM7 is probably the best AOSP platform to adapt, imho.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] azrull:
Would you use such a ROM?

Of course

What features would you expect in such a ROM?

Speed and less CPU consumption.

What ROM/source should it be based off of?

Nexus Prime or Sony Arc S

What is preferable, open or closed source?

Open Source

Would you be interested in working on a ROM?

I try my best to give suggestion or design a few things for it.

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If you are looking for developer, there are plenty to be listed bro.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FloatingFatMan:
I disagree here. I think the Android UI is perfectly fine as it is, although I do agree that too many carriers are over-personalising it. I don't think the answer is to just copy another device though.

I have a WP7 device, a Mango one, and whilst MetroUI is indeed simple and effective, it's also bloody dreadful! I hate the damn thing. It can't do half the things Android can, and those it can are most of the time done better on Android. It sucks battery like there's no tomorrow.

Hell, you can't even write your own battery life live tile!

Only Honeycomb is closed, ICS will not be and the only reason HC is closed is because, quite frankly, Google are embarrassed about the hack job they did to get it ready enough to go up against the iPad. They made a complete mess of it and they've pretty much had to go back to the drawing board, hence the long delay for ICS.

Believe me, if you saw the code, you wouldn't WANT to use it as a base for anything, let alone a custom ROM.

Still, I wish you luck with your ROM and hope you achieve all you want to achieve. I'm the last person to stifle choice so have fun with your task! I just wish more people would work on keeping Android's own unique identity instead of copying others. For what it's worth, I feel the same about Linux distro's that try to copy Windows, too!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cyrustv:
For me I like separate Utilities not a all in one rom, so I prever a launcher and all apps separate to install on my rom
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ishred11:
Sevenplusandroid came from wp7android so did most of the apps. They separated into to 2 groups.

And wp7android has already started a wp7rom.

Also wp7dialer2 and wp7email will be coming so to market.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Prodigy:
Have a look at THIS THEME and see if this has already been done 

Sent with Emoji from my X10i using T.E.A.M stock transparent ROM via Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tombarr:
I am aware of the current themes, which are quite extensive but still lacking simply because they are themes. You cannot edit code in a theme so to change a TabHost into a Pivot is near impossible.

As for the Seven+ Project, I would not call it a spin-off. When I started it I asked a few developers if they wished to join, some that were once part of WP7 Android, some that were not. Best of luck on dialer and email.

I would also agree that I am not a fan of Windows-like Linux distros, but I certainly think that they have a place. They are great for easing stubborn Windows users into changing OSs. I won't claim that ICS will be open source because I do not have any inside information, but I think being open source would be a mistake. OEMs play with Android too much, making it open source just gives them that privilege. It is about time Google either take back Android or let it go because at this point developers are just not happy that they can make an application by Google's guidelines only to find an issue on one device or another.

- Tom

http://sevenplusandroid.org

Founder and Developer
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] crackedvenom2:
I would use it and give it a shot. Ive always wanted to try the real WP7 experience but i will never buy a phone that has it. I like Android too much.