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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xenokc:
Phandroid says Sprint has released the fix.. It's not showing up yet for me in 'Update Firmware' or 'Update Android'. Anyone else see it?

http://phandroid.com/2011/12/07/spr...ek02-for-epic-4g-touch-to-fix-loss-of-signal/

I don't have the LOS issue but hope it addresses poor 3G speeds compared to EVO. I get faster 4G speeds than EVO but slower 3G speeds - have tested many times when next to each other.

Edit: Here's the Sprint post...

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../12/07/samsung-epic-touch-4g-software-updates
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shakuyi:
did the update work?

I am considering getting this phone if Sprint doesn't release a newer phone soon after CES. Did the latest update resolve this issue? or is it too soon too tell? I remember having this exact problem on my old Samsung Moment and I hated it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1lazysheep:
doesn't look like it. within an hour of flashing the EK02 modem (i'm on EK02 kernel too) i got LoS
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shakuyi:
damn that saddens me...but you only flashed the new modem? what about the software to go with the modem? might be a newer kernel no? Might get better results when a kernel is built off the official build. I'll check back lol, otherwise I might wait for the Sprint announcement at CES
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] frifox:
running EK02 modem, calkulin's EK02 based rom, the only thing that's not EK02 is the kernel.

got this few mins ago:

and then after rebooting:

falking los drama all over again.... time to flash the EK02 kernel and see if that helps :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shakuyi:
please let me know if it works....my fingers are crossed for you...im beginning to wonder if its a hardware malfunction
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
Unsticking this - but keeping it open for discussion
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Ek02 kernel does help, the non-stoc rogue and lost kernel gave me LoS within a couple hours, ek02 has been fine for days
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jdmtsx:
definitely the kernel
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] awesomeindeed:
It's the kernel. I was having the same issue with that one. Stock Ek02 is flawless so far.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agentfazexx:
I'm on EG31, haven't had LoS since I flashed it...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jake21:
Confused; did the latest update fix the LOS issue ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
It appears to be the case with a couple here & there still reporting issue.

Its more then likely due to them not having both EK02 kernel & modem on board.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] n00b1269:
I went back to stock and rooted after syndicated ice completely crashed on me, with ota I haven't gotten it yet
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jake21:
Yea - taht's why i was confused. wasn't sure if the folks who still had LOS actually had the full sprint update.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Product F(RED):
EG31 + latest LoSTKernel, I haven't had one in like a month. Battery life is still horrendous though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deziking:
I get roaming coverage at work. SMH
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kogama:
was reading this topic and registered to reply to one comment i saw here. Someone said LOS was not related to kernels but i beg to differ. Running my stock kernel or Bobby's stock kernel I have never EVER gotten LOS even once. Everytime I go to another kernel like zedomax, old and new , Rogue outlaw etc I get LOS within the first couple of days and it may happen two times in a day and i have to reboot to fix it but on stock I get no problems what so ever
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
Yes if you turn off data in current location crack up GPS lock will be instant due to gps cach

Ive been in the boonies with EVO driving in deliverance territory cracked up GPS having no luck getting lock due to lack of data assisting GPS location.

Surf trips in Hatteras NC have provided same negative gps results.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Journeyjeans:
Were there tons of clouds where you were? Did you give it the full 12 minutes (round about) needed for a cold start? I've traveled to Montreal, QC Canada and have had no problems using gps. The same in Toronto, ON Canada., HTC EVO as well.

EDIT: To be fair, I do stay in New York State, just across the river from Niagara Falls, ON, so MAYBE my device has no problems picking up gps because I'm am only 2 odd hours away from Toronto, as an example, so I guess the cities are in the same general area geographically speaking, but still, others have used gps in other countries across the ocean...so, I dunno man, maybe it's just your device?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mike99:
How is that Sprint issue???

I had TP2, still use it, no issues at all. Me and my spouse got GSII, and other family members Nexus S 4G. All of the Sammy phones loose connection all the time, try to roam and drop calls!! Swithched back to TP2, perfect reception, full bars and great 3G.

This is Samsung Radio issue, and I am not sure it is fixable with software upgrade> Hope I ma wrong!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
I left GPSapp test open for some time sunny sky's while while driving glancing down at it on few occasions no lock to be found.

When testing in Frisco NC I left app open for 8 -10 min getting same results maybe longer testing would of helped.

Im heading down there Friday will test it during weekend.

It basically come down to cach location , time of day satellite location and environment.

With the right mix lock wont happen....I guess you could open it wait hours for lock but it kind of takes away dependability.

When data is active lock occurs within seconds.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SirWise23:
Out of curiosity, are any of the people complaining about LOS using JuiceDefender? I am unrooted stock (Still hoping a completely stock root with CWM will come out soon.) and I had to uninstall JuiceDefender because I was constantly getting LOS. I would have to restart the phone a lot of the times because even going into airplane mode and back wasn't working.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] plmiller0905:
I said this in a earlier post and I'll say it again, maybe all these LOS complaints are brought upon because of network issues or Sprint working on those networks in those specific cities, states, town etc.

I got my first Epic Touch on launch day and never had the LOS issue. I rooted with Zedomax method and that night when I woke up, I had the LOS issue. Because at that time there was no way to return back to stock, I ended up exchanging my phone for another Epic Touch and I haven't experienced the LOS with it.

Because of some people rooted and non rooted stating that they're having this issue and not everyone having experiencing this issue, is why I think it's more network related.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Journeyjeans:
I disagree, because I've been through this situation before (on the opposite side). I remember one of my old HTC phones (might have even been the Evo) having some kind of hardware problem that everyone was not experiencing. Turned out there were 3 different version of the phone (a, b, and c) and only one or two of them were having problems, while the other one or two were fine. I wish I could remember which phone it was (I've had the HTC Mogul, Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch Pro2, and Evo)....I just didn't have the issue...so I can't remember what it was nor which phone.

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I researched it further, and there are definitely reports of people using the Evo's gps in Europe, and of course mine in Canada...so I don't know about your experience, though I believe it all happened to you. I do wish you luck on your trip though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mike99:
Two comments:

1. Used GPS with my TP and TP2 in Australia and all across Canada. No data service. When landed in Sydney, sunny morning, using GPS test app, took 3min to get a lock. Then used IGO for 2 weeks with no issues. Phone was in airplane mode all this time! On a cloudy day, it took several minutes to get signal back, but once locked, as long as I was using the nav program, HTC was holding the signal like a champ. Was driving about 1500 miles, missed 2 turns.

2. I am on stock rom, NO unlocking, using my wife's GSII side-by-side with my TP2. No comparison. No issues with TP2, full 5 bars, fast 3G, no dropped calls. GSII attempts to roam all the time, having 1-2 bars the rest of the time. Again, stock device, no apps loaded yet, same room with TP2.

Thanks

Mike
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xxxicu812:
Has to be a combination of things. Not just one. Iv'e had my et4g since last tuesday and no issues until today at work, same as everyone else. No fix until battery pull!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Rooted or not?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xxxicu812:
Check this out!

"Sprint Nextel will launch its own 4G LTE network early next year."

"The company is already installing LTE equipment and has been field testing the network in select areas."

hmmm...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fishfuzz:
Let's be clear : I had a strong data signal after landing, but the GPS wouldn't lock. Reboot fixed the issue (super fast lock) but it cropped up again last week after driving in a no signal area.

Toggling airplane mode, GPS, and data did not help.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jyan_osu:
I hope they fixed this issue ASAP. My wife got this phone and she was leery of Samsung with the issues she had with the Epic 4G and all my friends' issues with the Epic 4G and Moment.

Second day we had this phone and she missed a few messages and calls and didn't know about it. Rebooted the phone and it was good.

While my EVO 4G and EVO 3D were fine throughout the whole time making phone calls and sending and receiving messages.

Would have been OK I guess if the indicator showed no signal, but it looked normal on the Epic Touch.

Let's hope this is resolved in a relatively short amount of time. I'm surprised this issue didn't pop up during their testing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] caaznkid:
Wow. I had 10 LOS events yesterday....and also once this morning when I woke up. But the rest of the day till now....nothing. So. Random. Don't understand.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leond:
I had LOS 10 times a day after rooting with non-stock kernel. I followed the procedure of rooting with stock kernel and have not seen a single LOS after that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] buggerritt:
I am back on stock kernal, as of yesterday (using the bubby technique for rooting) and am still getting LOS. I observed today, that when I was using wifi, I would get LOS within minutes. I witnessed it several times early this morning as I was trying to upload a video to youtube. I finally gave up and switched back to 3G. I haven't tried to upload anything but, haven't experienced LOS, since. It's been 3 hours since the switch. When I was on wifi and attempting the upload, it would happen within a few minutes or sooner. I only checked after a few minutes so I could have actually been immediately. This data could all be coincidental. I make no assumptions with it. It is simply more to consider.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] frifox:
I had experienced LOS a lot in past few days but this morning I got it but the icons on the notification bar were still showing bars. couldn't send txt nor make any calls (sms fail to send and making calls was just a long silence and no reply).. rebooting didn not help but toggling GPS & WiFi off and back on fixed it :confused:

I LOVE this phone for it's performance cpu & gpu but these radio issues and horrible 3g/wifi receptions are driving me insane.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jyan_osu:
Yeah if it can't operate reliably on such a basic operation as a phone, going to have to take it back soon and with just 14 days now, it's not giving me that much time to wait for a fix.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] random45:
I rooted with Zedomax and saw problems but not the same one as described here. What happened to me was that I would not receive incoming calls, but everything else worked for me, including send/receive texts and outgoing calls, internet, the works...

I have google voice integration. Oh, by the way, after restoring stock kernel, everything got fixed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] expertzero1:
got my first LOS today... After i flashed to AEmod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xxxicu812:
I rooted after the los, figured i had nothing to loose at that point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] primkhan:
I've been getting the 'X' mark on top and unable to get it back without restarting. Is there no remedy to this? Is this a bad phone and should I return it? I've had it before I rooted and after I rooted + flashed different kernels and stuff.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lawr0155:
I called both Samsung and Sprint support. Samsung took my information and escalated my problem, but gave me no solution. Sprint escalated it to a manager then told me it was a known issue and that it will be fixed in maintenance release 1. We all know how long that could take.

I have 2 SGS2E4GT phones, my wife's and mine. My wife has had hers since the weekend the phone launched (11 days), never a los issue yet. Mine I bought 4 days ago and it has only happened once to me. I had my los near downtown houston. I am not sure if I should just return the phone since I don't want any of the other phones at sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Desert_rhino:
I think I'm having this problem, but it's compounded bya known issue with towers down near my house. :( I Guess I will call sprint and samsung later today. Sigh.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MadFlava:
Im on my 3rd phone and they've all had this issue. I considering going to the Photon but stayed the course. I hate Samsung. This is the EXACT reason I said I would never own another Samsung device. They all ship broken and it takes them forever to actually fix them, if they ever do.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zack4290:
OMG this nice of a phone and cant keep signal.

I never got a los non rooted, once clockwork and root los few times a day reboot reboot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] melloyellow:
My phone is completely stock, experienced a "Loss of Service" today for the first time (had phone since Weds after launch). I accidentally dialed a contact, hung up right away, then immediately got a "loss of service" message which also said something like "You are now roaming different data fees will apply" something along those lines.

Additionally, ever since I have had the phone, my 3G speeds have been horribly slow. Rarely get above 100kbps. Is this related to the same issue?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eagercrow:
I am so sick of this. I get it even when connected to my airave.

Today I was roaming and got it in the middle of a damn call. If you get it in the middle of a call (happened 3-4 times now) the phone either locks up or won't let you end the call, or make a new call.

After the issues I had with my NS4G I said I'd never get another phone the second it was released, but I've wanted the GS2 for months and figured it would be ok since its been out in the rest of the world for months. I love this phone BUT sometimes the LOS happens even though the phone is displaying a signal, totally unacceptable!

I'm on the fence about returning it, but I'm not going to wait past my 30 days in hopes of a fix. I did that with the NS4G and I got screwed, not losing my $550 on this if the LOS continues.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jyan_osu:
It's 14 days now.. not 30 days..

http://www.sprint.com/landings/returns/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ace0603:
LOS

I got the ET4G on Sept 16. and did not root yet. It seemed fine at first then started getting worse until I never was actullay on 3G even though it said I was. I went to Sprint store and had it tested. The report was LOS. I returned it to Best Buy and so far on the 2nd phone no problems. We will see.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] exploited789:
Is this thread only for 3G data and phone signal? Just asking since I have zero GPS functionality ive tried clearing GPS cache with GPS toolbox and it still doesnt lock, even when left for 30+ minutes. Sorry is this is posted in the wrong thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripalsanghani:
Hopped on a chat with Samsung,

"Pearlie: I apologize for the inconvenience caused to you. Our Samsung technicians are working on that. I will make a note of this issue and inform it to the concerned department."

Kind of contradictory to say they were working on it, and then say you're going to make a note to inform the concerned department. Then she directed me to the Galaxy S support number to get exact information. (1-877-392-4252)

I called the number, spoke to a Lou or Luke couldn't understand. Told me it was the first time he was hearing about the issue and said his coworkers might have but he has not. He said continue to wait for updates and he'll make a note to the department as well.

I then went on a verbal rampage (not yelling or swearing, but definitely with aggression) and some low blows about previous Samsung phone updates (I've never used a Samsung phone prior to this bad boy). I was not giving him a hard time about it because its not his fault but had to show him it's a serious bug when users can't make calls.

Not sure if this number was listed in the thread, my anger directed me to posting without even reading any of the other posts, haha. But, I guess I'm asking anyone to just blow up this line and make them understand its an issue bigger than they think. A lot of people have a 14 day window and are really considering leaving so throwing that into the mix could worry them hopefully. I bought mine from a third party so its essentially a plastic media device I'm paying monthly data for that I can't use for its primary function.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jlear3:
I'm aware this really isn't a thread made for this but.... I had a gsII from day one, but never any Los for Bout a week. I rooted it and got Los every day.. I took it In for a replacement and haven't had any on my new phone, and and its been about 4 days. The just wanted to put it out there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jake21:
I don't actually own the phone; still a bit on the deciding mode - but I'm curious - have folks tried tweaking the various power saving options to see if certain combinations have an impact on LOS frequency ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jjday7:
I am curious if anyone is having this problem with an airave being used? I ask because I am considering this phone and have horrible service to begin with. Just want to be sure I won't be getting this issue with my airave.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmora01:
I used to have the ET4G and the nexus s 4g and the signal is terrible in both phones but the nexus s did not lose the signal, always 10 to 15 db below my htc evo and keeps bouncing most of the time. With the ET4G if I stay in poor signal area the phone goes to roaming but when comebacks to sprint network is when the phone lose the signal and I have to reboot the phone to fix it. The ET4G is beautiful phone and very fast, nice camera but as phone sucks. With the poor network of Sprint and bad 3g, definitely you need a phone with better radios.

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I did not have any problem with the phone and my airave.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HotInEER:
I get the roaming constantly, losing the 3g data, and somehow in my roaming settings I mark 3g and then 5 minutes later its unchecked again. It's very frustrating. The signal on this phone is horrible. I had horrible 3g data speeds in relation to my OG Evo, but then about 5 days ago my 3g speeds shot through the roof and i've been pleased, but this roaming issue is bugging me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] melloyellow:
Forgive me if this has been stated somewhere, but has Sprint/Samsung confirmed that this Loss of Signal/Poor 3g speeds can/will be fixed in some sort of firmware update? Or is this issue because something is inherently wrong with the hardware that the ET4G uses, and really cannot be fixed?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] greg di:
I had zero LOS prior to root.

Rooted today with Zedomax 1.3 and running Starburst and now I have LOS constantly.

I'm going to call Sprint and have them tag my account with this issue so I can return beyond 14 days if necessary.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jibberjabbs:
I'm seeing this too. Soon as I lose cellular connection I get the GPS signal lost error and does not come back.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1miracle2:
I'm have 3g issues as well.

Mainly around where I work but at home as well.

I work in Scottsdale AZ, around the 101 and Scottsdale (about a mile North).

Hope this is fixed A.S.A.P. I'm bummed we don't have 4g as it is!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] land2634:
My issues stem mostly around text messages. Sometimes, my messages flat-out don't send... well at least until some random time/date down the road, usually when it's inconvenient (can we say 2AM anyone?). When people started asking why I was sending random messages, I started looking at my Google Voice account. Sure enough, I can see where some messages weren't sent, and thereby not synced with Google Voice. Explains why I don't receive responses sometimes, and it's highly inconvenient. I've noticed no pattern behind it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ChadH42:
I have been having the same issue. After my Epic wakens I have no data access and I need to re-boot to get it back.

I turned off JuiceDefender (which a love!) and that seems to have reduced the number of occurances in the day that this happens.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sturmie:
I was on stock rooted kernel and experienced LOS once/twice a day...my bars would switch to a circle with a line through it.

Switched to Midnight's ROM and got LOS, but my bars DID NOT change...so I never knew I had lost service. The only way I would find out if is I tried to text/call someone...VERY FRUSTRATING, for sure.

Had to reboot to get service back in all instances...went back to stock/rooted...at least that way, I can tell when I lose service.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brent8577:
i was on stock kernel for a couple of hours and had the roaming problem. i never left the city, but it kept asking me if i wanted to pay for roaming. answer is no, but i pay for service in my city, so i checked yes and told it to shut up. when i ignored it or answered no, then i'd get phone calls with no sound. i've since put zedomax 3, 4.1 beta, and use plus now. los keeps me from even having the service i'm expected to pay for. i've sent an e-mail telling them not to count this time in my billing period, that i was willing to wait the 14 days before bringing back the phone. i'm about to flash stock and remove root to see if i still get los. if i do, then i'm not risking an ETF or being bullied around, so i might be done10/12. ;_;

EDIT: i flashed the stock kernel back on through ODIN. i still have root, maybe not CWM, but this is the longest the phone has held a signal. the devs are all saying the LOS isn't related to the new kernels and ROMs, but if i don't have LOS in the next day or 2, then...

EDIT2: but with the stock kernel restored, now there's no wifi. i'm flashing back to something with CWM 5 and not paying Sprint until they fix the signal. heh. sad...

3: my signal is lasting longer with some mixup of all of these kernels + CWM and root, but i'm getting the random circle instead of the x bars now. it's a good thing that internet is my main reason for having this because if it was for work or personal, then i'd already be on ATT. :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] land2634:
Once again, a random pile of texts that my phone didn't send over the past week were arbitrarily sent at 2:14 AM this morning to no less than 15 people. I think it goes without saying that first off, I have some upset people that I woke them up, even if it wasn't really me. Second, I'm beyond livid at the fact that if I send 10 text messages, only about 6 will go through. As I'm beyond the 14 day return policy, it's very irritating that I can't even send a text message without worrying that it won't send until some arbitrary and inconvenient time.