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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
While he bought it under the impression it was legitimate, it certainly was not. Whoever sold it to him did not have the rights to do that, remote wiping lost corporate devices is entirely expected.

There is nothing worthwhile to recover off it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
I'd be pissed too. If it was on your wireless network when they did it, basically they breached it. You could have had important information on your phone. They have have rights to retrieve the phone, but they probably aren't allowed to destroy your data.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Omen87:
Although that is truly unfortunate, we will most likely have ICS soon enough. I'm sure reports will surface of a Google employee losing his/her job soon.

On the lighter side of things, I bet someone at Google is going around being the Soup Nazi: "NO ICE CREAM SANDWICH FOR YOU!"
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feelers:
It's quite a strange situation. You could create a Ebay listing and notify Engadget. "First phone that had ICS in the public domain - own a piece of history". Or you could complain to Ebay...

Nature of complaint: Phone was sold with advanced, unreleased firmware that was remotely destroyed to protect corporate secrets. I therefore request a refund.

If it were me, I'd contact Google, and see if they'll trade you for a Nexus Prime when it's released. That seems like a fair deal. :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N3xt2N0N3:
Oh well fun while it lasted.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
I'm more disappointed that this allegedly is actually ics.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p00kienrayray:
true, at least we got a better glimpse of what ics will, or CAN look like.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] refthemc:
Thanks cool and freaky at the same time...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jivemaster:
Now we know in future to stay on airplane mode if you end up with a leak.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Personally I would return the device to who I suspect actually owns it, in this case Samsung or Google.

However it would be safer just to wipe data on it, as the c2d they use to remote wipe requires a google account.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ITenson:
Well... I think it's common marketing practice for company to leak information about their upcoming product to gauge feedbacks... This might not be the real thing but the feedback might be just as important
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] randomblame:
I hope this is all some twisted joke and the real ics is pretty and useful and awesome and not just a blue skinned version of gingerbread with an improved launcher.... *vomits* how long have we waited for honeycomb /strike ice cream sandwich source now? Finally we will get it in a few weeks and it will be this... I'm a bit sad
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmay:
Use odin to do a system dump.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redbullcat:
So if Google remote-wiped the phone, this could mean two things, right?

1) Google are trolling us and remote-wiped it to fool us into thinking this is ICS.

2) Google remote-wiped the phone because this is ICS and they didn't want the ROM getting out.

Amirite? :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
Are efforts being made to recover other partitions from the device? Assuming that /system is the only partition gone, I believe it would be safe to bet that /data is okay.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
I just have to thank people left and right who make comments like this because I feel like everyone looks passed this and when its said it's ignored. And I've said it since the first leaks that looked indentical.

If this is in fact ics and what it will look like. (For you Google associates reading at Home) the day its announced I will sell my phone and go buy the iPhone 5. Because I'm spiteful like that. Unless it runs algorithms in the background that cure cancer and aids. Then ill keep it.

Otherwise I'm spiteful and will do it. Would rather have wp7 over iPhone but that's how spiteful I am. Waste money on a apple product. Cause if it is ics I've clearly wasted my time and money on false hopes and the future of android looks dim of that's your ground breaking all you could come up with.

That's right. I'm extreme. But that's an apple move. Except changing the color of the phone they changed the theme.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
Because the comments are worthless and are based on pure speculation derived from a 2-minute clip of pre-release software.

Seriously - they're ignored because they add nothing to discussion. We've seen no previews of what to expect -- we've just seen a general idea of how it'll look. Similar to another version of Android; why is this shocking?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gearu:
There is no proof that google wiped anything.

This whole thing is a king sized lie.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
Don't kill me mods... just a gentle bump.

Are efforts being made to recover other partitions from the device? Assuming that /system is the only partition gone, I believe it would be safe to bet that /data is okay.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
Because it was supposed to be ground breaking and more like honeycomb. And of that's it that's crap. Not that honeycomb is big I. Features. But come on. Don't drastically change the look of android with honeycomb. Then tie it back to the phone and make it look like that.

Maybe I'm wrong and its not all about the looks. But don't hype it up just for some background changes. I would like to see a bigger improvement for the talK.

Maybe I'm expecting too much but is it too much to ask for really maybe I'm missing the big picture and there are going to be some really cool features added in there and really good performance. But its ugly. They could and have done better.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
I have no idea what you were expecting. Android has defined its look working with the screen space available on a phone. ICS was to merge honeycomb & gingerbread into one unified OS, scalable based on screen real-estate.

I think you were expecting them to change their look, but I'm not sure why. *shrug* Let's leave speculation until we have something more credible to discuss (in-depth previews, confirmed specs etc.) Your previous post is too melodramatic over what this is. Sounds like you don't actually *want* an Android phone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackie_jagger:
Last I heard, Google yet again pushed the "game changing" "ground breaking" features to the next release - all we can do is wait for 10th Oct. to see what the Prime and Google have to surprise us with !
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackHawkA4:
I would have excepted it to look better than cm7 gingerbread. :)

But I guess now thinking about it. If the performance is jacked up and there are some really cool features.. then I guess who cares. But I still think that's ugly and would hate to be stock.

If it is and it doesn't have a lot of cool features and performance ill stay on the last cm7 gingerbread rom to be made and wait for the reaper.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
I suppose I'm looking forward to more consistency in their UI scheme. If they have that, "beauty" will be subject, but at least it'll be consistent.

Anyways, do we have any other info about what they found? Are we relying on the remote-wipe as an indicator that it probably *was* ICS?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ale0crysis:
It's 100% real not fake, trust me. Sammy & Big G are on NDA until CTIA on next samsung google event where they are going to show the Nexus Prime & Samsung Droid Prime worlwide for the first time... Otherwise they shouldn't have any reason to block your device "not legal"
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackster248:
I'm sorry but not once did I ever see Google hype up any of their builds to be "ground breaking" or to be a UI overhaul. It was the various dozens of android sites that hype it up claiming its going to be an overhaul. So I don't know why you're so disappointed when Google never once claimed any of those things. All I want from each update is for Android to get better.

And it looks like it does. If this ICS has hardware acceleration then I'll be a happy camper. Because that's all I really need. Oh, and a better and smoother browser. People can hate it all they want but ICS gives the user a better experience.

I mean if you think about it, Android is the only OS that actually aesthetically changes... WP7's Mango is a big update but yet looks the same...

And iOS has looked the same for the past 4 years of its existense, other than its "fancier" folder system.

I'm more interested with the under the hood stuff than the exterior. And Google always brings that with each update. Froyo gave us JIT, GB made the whole UI much smoother, and now ICS will hopefully be hardware accelerated.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
I think the person who sold the phone is playing a sick joke. Custom ROM and some software which allowed him to wipe it when he wanted. Sounds crazy but he knew it would be a big thing since everyone wants ICS. Give the seller negative feedback.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Mathkid's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Kernel!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feelers:
Wouldn't hardware acceleration be a big enough step even on it's own? It's all pretty meaningless discussion as this was presumably an old build. The multi-tasking looked pretty awesome. I don't think it's really fair to complain when we don't even have an official (or unofficial) release to examine!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jivemaster:
^ this.

Regardless of the other features, system wide hardware acceleration will be a godsend, and actually make the stock browser usable.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
This looks absolutely terrible.

Why can't Android get a real update like Mango... V_V
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LexusBrian400:
Its not crazy at all... The app Theft Aware could wipe a device remotely with no problem. I've used it on my own just to test it out. Sent an undetected SMS from another phone, wiped everything & locked it. Who knows, maybe you're right lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
You need to get your eyes checked, because that looked completely like Honeycomb to me - minus the screen estate of course. Also, even in this leaked video, they didn't scroll around homescreens to show if if it's like HC or if it does have scrollable and resizeable widgets.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zenitraM:
How about trying to make a raw dd image of the MMC partition that contains the /system partition?

Would Google be paranoid enough to zero-overwrite the partition? The file contents might still be there.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
Oh I trust you! Let me know where to send my bank account and credit card info to so you could hold on to it for me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IRIE4IPIER:
These guys are trolling. Moving on now.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4revan:
Has anyone found the ebay listing yet?

If not, I scanned through completed and found this which looks rather similar to the video

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Nexus-S-16GB-Black-T-Mobile-Smartphone-/200654721846?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2eb7f41336#ht_500wt_1156

Anyone wanna contact the seller and ask for details? :p
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funnnny:
It's easy since I can remote wipe or factory reset my phone.

1. Buy a Phone.

2. install custom ROM and make it like ICS

3. install something like SeekDroid

4. sell it

5. wait 'till everyone see it

6. remote wipe it

7 ????

8 PROFIT
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
I'd be also interesting, if Google puts a theming option to ICS.

All this cyan color theme through the system could be easily replaceable by any hex color code in settings or predefined colors (like wp7), so you can change the whole look to the color you want. Yellow ICS on Monday, party red on weekends :]
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
Wow that much for used? Just bought one on eBay brand new for 218 with free nda shipping.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
But jcase ( a big dev in here) said, for what he know, it was a real ICS rom..not a gingebread custom rom
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
Seems like he has sold at least two of the phones....

makes me seriously wonder who speaks Spansih, Chinese and English and comes across two Nexus S smartphones with one single picture for each auction..

http://translate.google.com/transla...=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=955&prmd=imvns

.... the answer is Google.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DamienJJ:
I am skeptical about this too. I have an app called Lost Droid that can do the Wipe thing plus a lot more (like tracking the device). Here is the link:

http://bit.ly/n8BQ5g

You can even hide the icon and you will never know it is there so the "seller" might even be spying on the buyers like that!

The guy changed the launcher and voila, conspiracy!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
Again... I'm calling bull****.... look at the bidding history. All no names with few bids? Upbidding from y****

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&rt=nc&item=200646601759
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jastonas:
Seriously troll?

Can you make a custom rom that looks like the one in the video?

If yes, then why are we waiting for ICS since we can get all the features and the goodies from the troll Funnny?!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
I agree with this sentiment.

Although we don't know conclusively whether it's fake or not -- I've seen no custom rom or app that is like what we saw in the video.

If it is a hoax, there's been a lot of time and effort wasted into some serious coding.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
stop further investigation otherwise google will wipe ur phone too..or will wipe the entire web :P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] treUse:
This is most likely a rather old build, and thus the theme is probably not the final one.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DamienJJ:
No but he can install this Launcher I guess:

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/first-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-launcher-clone-emerges/

Put the tracking Lost Droid app and wipe the phone when he has everything he needed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
Nah....

I'm getting angry....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
Have you tried running it ? I did, and it's not smooth or anything like on the video. So please stop BSing yourself.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whiteyonenh:
Does anyone else notice the reflection of the iphone in the second pic? lol :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
read the entire thread!

someone much capable then you said that analizing the os it was probably ics, of course not a stupid launcher ok? ;)

of course we can believe or not..but no one know the true
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.stylo:
And the animations, the settingsmenu ...

If you can make an Customrom like that, share it and i donate for it
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
Just stop with this remote wipe app stuff. None of those apps are capable of wiping /system
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sts_fin:
Everyone is *****ing about the gui, this can be a really old alpha build of the software so not conclusions should be done.

The second thing is that the software has been designed from ground up to be used without buttons, so this version is only for the Nexus S, the Droid Prime / Galaxy Nexus will have a different look and feel to it (anyhow for the hardware buttons, they will be more like the ones on Honeycomb)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funnnny:
You tell me that ICS is all about the UI ?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jastonas:
No you can't.

I don't give a damn about the remote wipe. It could be a fake. It could be anything. A remote wipe might not have even happened. Who cares.

What matters is: We have a video showing a really really good UI, very smooth, that looks like ICS and there is NO WAY to emulate what we saw in the video with a crappy ICS 2.4 launcher (seriously, has anyone tried that crappy launcher to see the difference compared with what he saw in the video?) or with any custom rom that is out there ATM.

edit:

I am telling you that the UI we saw cannot be replicated by any launcher, so the whole assumption that you made, made me a bit angry, since you did not give it any thought.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leerobson99:
Whatever it is or isn't it sure has whetted my appetite!

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jastonas:
As I said before, I don't even care if it is ICS or a custom Eclair 2.1. I wan't it :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cinthiar:
I was just thinking the same. It looked really smooth in the video and I don't believe it is a Gingerbread with launcher. Hell, it could be but I refuse to believe that. ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackster248:
honestly the tell tale sign in the video was when he went from the camera app to the home screen. It showed a very nice and fluid motoblur like transition from landscape to portrait. Stock GB definitely never, nor could it, do that.

It's probably an early build of ICS. There was just way too many things in that ROM that would have been extremely hard and time consuming to fake...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrome99:
+1

To hell with the trolls, if i made a ROM like that (not that i have the skills to ;) ) I'd share it with everyone!!!! Probably get some credibility as a dev, maybe even donations and what not. I wouldn't play a stupid prank, and sell it to someone for no apparent reason.

Also, the UI is pretty nice, especially the Multitasking. Waaaaay better than 8 app icons in the middle of the screen. Some parts suck, like the notification panel but it can be changed before release.

EDIT: This is clearly not the crappy ICS launcher in the market, and like others said, an Alpha build. There is always scope for improvement.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaNsA:
Why are you feeding the troll?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jastonas:
I think the trolls have silenced since their arguments fell into the abyss.

On the other hand, it's not their fault to make assumptions. We are all-knowing geeks and they are not :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
I assume any used smartphone I get might have something nefarious on it so the first thing I always do after I turn a phone on is a factory reset, which I did.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] optimaljam:
lol nicely said, Why dont trolls just stay in 4**** they should ban people here who troll! btw I wish we can use ICS it looked so smooth and nice!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motu0083:
Anyone else think this might be worth trying?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
By the way I was only saying it was a custom rom because I just can't see how this got out. I'm not no troll, Just trying to come to a reasonable explanation. If this is ICS then I have no doubt like others have said that it is a very early build. I agree there are elements that I've never seen in a custom rom, shame google wiped it but maybe it was google who sold it?

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Mathkid's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Kernel!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zarnikon:
Isn't it possible that it is the following launcher: syndicateapps.com/main/ICS_Launcher.html
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nordpolcamper:
If the video he uploaded shows the actual Ice Cream Sandwich, then this would be a huge desaster.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
It's more then just a launcher though. Animations and settings menu cannot be done through a launcher.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Mathkid's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Kernel!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] landwomble:
well, it's just hit the front page of engadget...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
Been on there since last night.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Mathkid's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Kernel!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilnev:
anyone notice the lag in the video switching form locked screen to camera??

fail :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
I believe the screen was changing orientation as he unlocked it causing lag. Even so this is a very early build so it ain't gonna be perfect.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Mathkid's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Kernel!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mobydeek:
Hey motu0083,

Slightly off topic, but did you get a chance to use the Browser?

Is it visually different? Is performance better ?

Thanks! :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilnev:
Rewatch the video, it lagged way before he even moved the device.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
If this is legitimate, given its kernal number, we at least know the oldest it can possibly be.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llMll:
The noob moments in this entire post has got me thinking its bogus.

This could be very good or very bad.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
Still it's an early build. It's gonna lag.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Mathkid's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Kernel!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aloy99:
Maybe I'm being extreme but if the device belonged to Google, you could sue them. It's like the reporter and the iPhone 4. It's you property and you obtained it rightfully. Google has no right to touch it in anyway.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llMll:
this whole this is a marketing ploy...

some guy put a beta version on a cell and put it out there...we just happened to come across it
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funeral666:
I can't believe I just read the entire thread!

meh, I need a life :eek:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjtj4444:
Are you kidding? The phone was stolen or lost from Google, of course they have the right to erase sensitive information on their device. This is very common with corporate mobiles and laptops, when stolen they try to wipe them.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AfzalivE:
Calm your horses dude!

Did you see the "Huddle" icon? This is most probably an early build -_-
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrpanic7:
thanks for posting, are we able to get this backed up and shared? i know there are plenty of people willing to walk thru helping you via instant message to help get this shared :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RED_:
Am i going crazy or did i really see a "Backup & root" option when he held down the homescreen to check the multitasking window.

---------- Post added at 12:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 PM ----------

The updates so far have already made this phone capable of doing a lot so of course updates are going to be slower. The whole point of this being an integration with honeycomb is the colour as we can see. Skins and themes can always be changed as can wallpapers. It seems that holding homescreen button brings up a task killer which map actually work which may be useful. Its not going to be a huge update, just an integration with honeycomb. After that we will see the updates where tablets and phones will get the same updates and working together to get the most out of both devices.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbestfriends:
Looked like Backup & Reset