yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] pprakash:
With Go Launcher EX I find having the single image as background provided slightly bigger images rather than using individual icons. But I have attached individual icons as well here hopefully it helps you ..
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] wolfsstolz:
This is for German Users only, please understand that i write in German too.

Here is a German Manila Pack to make your your HomeScreen in German Language.

English Users can use this Manila Pack too, that is in English ;)

My English is realy bad XD

Also, leider hält es ja kein Dev für nötig auch einmal an uns deutsche zu denken XD deshalb habe ich mal eine Manila 2d Version zusammen gesucht, die man auf deutsch stellen kann. Das Windows System selber bleibt zwar in Englisch aber der komplette Homescreen ist nun in deutsch. Ich denke, das dies ja auch das wichtigste ist ;)

Zudem ist auch das HTC Wetter Plugin enthalten, dass es Euch ermöglicht, die aktuellen Wetter Daten animiert anzeigen zu lassen.

Eine Faq habe ich mit bei gelegt!

Eins habe ich in der Faq vergessen ...

Die Weather xml aus dem HTC ordner könnte Ihr mit in das Windows Verzeichnis kopieren (zuständig für die deutschen Städte beim Wetter) es läuft aber auch ohne.

Was für Themen Ihr verwenden könnt müsst Ihr selber testen, dafür einfach einmal hier schauen:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425974

Thanks to "herg62123" for Language Files

Nun denn viel Spass dabei

http://uploaded.to/file/xatlj6mb
[HD2 General] DieHard007:
when you change the SPL that is OEM of SPL 2.10.000 to HSPL 2.08.000 to convert phone over to WP7, does the SPL have any thing to do with the operation of the phone. or is it just to load up different OS's
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
Load up different OS's, it has nothing to do what phone's operations are.

However, HSPL 3.03 can boot neither android nor windows phone 7, it is only for custom WinMo Roms :)
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Wrong the SPL does have something to do with the operation of the phone. Without a SPL you would not have a operational phone, it would be a brick. The SPL (Secondary Program Loader) is what actually boots your OS, well at least the Windows Mobile OS. HSPL is what boots the OS too but the HSPL will allow you to flash non official software to your HD2 like MAGLDR and cLK. Or to be more technical about it, it does not require software to pass a CID check when being flashed and HSPL can not be over written by anything but a official Windows Mobile ROM flashed via SD card or by the DFT update utility you use to flash HSPL. Now mind you the HSPL is what boots MAGLDR or cLK depending on what custom bootloader you are using as they both are flashed to the ROM partition of the NAND memory. MAGLDR boots either Android or WP7 depending on which OS you flash to your HD2. HSPL also boots cLK which in turn boots Androi, but cLK is just for booting Android not Android and WP7 like MAGLDR does. So you see SPL or HSPL is very important to the operation of the phone.
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
I know :D

but I think he meant : will it affect my Android/WP7?

and the simple answer : HSPL 3.03 or any SPL = No Android/WP7. any other HSPL = Android/WP7.

I don't think he wants all the Hard secondary program loader and all that stuff ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] consegregate:
I notice your continual obsession with sense! ;D

Good luck.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
This is what version of android?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] manolisho22:
i really want this ROM, good luck boys
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
well im not sure what version of sense were doing. (yes im in the team) 2.2 would be good if audio could be done properly but 2.3 only really requires gfx resizing. anyway serverboost did you get the link to my github i sent you?

EDIT: lol just realised he put me down :D anyway i have the 2.2 wildifre sources dled and will take a look at it if the source for zombiepanic or d4kernels public may compare the two and attempt a port

EDIT2:fixed a typo and i wanted to start the thread :( lol
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] slade87:
whats got the kernel source to do with your rom port?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
I think were going to develop from htcdev.com, as they has Kernel Source, and all we need :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] slade87:
kernel is not rom, the rom is android build from android sources. the kernel just provides hardware access abstraction for the rom to communicate with the hardware so you would need android sources for your sense rom and as far as i know sense is not opensource and therefore cannot be build from sources. you would need to port from and exisiting device like legend or so.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
I misunderstood you. I ment the Kernel Sources.

EDIT: just lookedd at HTCDev, apparently HTCDev has sources for Wildfire (Not S) Froyo
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
well if we decide to port the sense kernel (not sure if it is needed but we have it anyway) then we need sources but we might not need to then its just a case of porting from legend wildfire etc we might not need the source but just in case.

EDIT: lol i am one post ahead of you.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Not anymore? XD

But anyway, I think getting kernels would be good too, as it will improve stabillity and stuff (plus Native Tethering Etc.)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
true but d4kernel and zombiepanic are good and i MAY have just found a good rom to port. 2.3 sense 2.1 from wildfire already partially resized here hopefully we can port this and not anymore to you to! (constant mini war through whole port. lol
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Lets take that, I have already downloaded Kernel Sources. + HTCOpen(ItDoesntMake)Sense SDK

But seriously that "joke?" didnt make HTC Sense.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
ok i will ask the devs permission and i THINK that SDK is for making apps integrate with sense. like android SDK but with sense stuff added
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Which is why we need it?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
no i think its for making like plugins and stuff for sense like the social networking bits and check your PM's please
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] flex96:
i think when you port the kernel we have no more Hardware bugs right?

but i think the assembler language of for example the CPU could make some problems
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
I think so? But i think we need one of the Kernel devs on our teams maybe D4? (He is a hardcore in both Kernel and ROM Developing as we all knows :) )
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] flex96:
d4 is a really hardcore programmer but with C language knowlege YOU could do it yourself
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
You know what? Ill try PMing him.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
still before concentrating on kernel we should do the ROM in my opinion. but we need to wait for permission from the dev of the ROM we were trying first

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C can make we want to shoot myself. JAVA HTML PHP FTW! lol i need to learn C oh and assembly FTW!

and loling that i edited last not new post

still waiting for reply from the dev of wildfire ROM
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Carcass.br:
When you need a better communicate with hardware, C and Assembly are the best tool that you can have...

Java's pure interface and concept, if you have a good hardware, so yeah, Java is the best thing...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Thank you for the info, i will study on that :)

@all MiniProSense Devs: I recommend you guys to study on it too :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
yes yes im starting to give it a go but im currently excited as i found a C64 emulator for windoze. lol anyway yeah ill give it a go

also serverboost remember the time you said sense was impossible? makes me laugh now
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] manolisho22:
do you know its possible port sense without kustom kernel? or we need the unlocked bootloader for do work this rom when it will be finish?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
i think currently were porting a ROM from the wildfire (android 2.3 sense 2.1) but after that there MAY be a optional kernel so at the moment no it wont need an unlocked bootloader
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] manolisho22:
ok thanks, but answer me please, is ported from wildfire or wildfire S? and how is it going at the work? Do we have to wait a lot to see it finished? i really want it
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Well at the moment we are trying to get permission from a dev to port his wildfire ROM which I believe was taken from the wildfire S dump. Failing that then yes we may try porting the dump. As for timescale hopefully we should get going soon and we will keep you posted from there.

Also serverboost you should update the first post with the fact that we now have myth999 on our team
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] flex96:
i think when you port without custom kernel you would have some audio/video bugs because of the libarys

but i'm not sure^^
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Serverboost and myth999 we are a GO i just got permssion from the ROM dev to port. head to my github for the rom

thread link for rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1269485 BIG thanks to VigiDroid for permission :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Already Booting up Ubuntu in VirtualBox (Yes, VB (Dont want to boot into Ubuntu))

EDIT: Damn didnt have it Installed in VB (Fixing...)

EDIT2: Cygwin FTW!

EDIT3: Dang, Didnt get it properly installed. (Cant fix D: )
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] myth999:
my kitchens running fine had installed it while it was v 0.159 however rom downloading pretty slow still 25 mins to go :x
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Do what I did. Linux server SSH and samba for files :) works great for me and dont dl rom use the ver on my github
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] myth999:
am not gettin it on your git buddy???
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
blame my rubbish net connection.... 1.6 down .05 up.... and the fact i need 2 copy 2 my files 2 the server u upload from :) give me bout 10 mins and the upload will have started
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] flex96:
work with 2 operating systems!!

i'm already have ubuntu preinstalled its great nomore cygwin!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
linux makes my laptop go to 98 degrees C so cant :(
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
What about installing in VirtualBox as i did or VMWare?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
windows is a RAM hog and im happy using my method. works fine just have a problem with WIFI transfer speeds (BTW the files are uploading to github now so give it a lil while)

cant wait to build my new PC

4.1GHZ 6 core AMD phenom X6 black edition :)

16GB DDR3 RAM@1600MHZ

2GB GDDR5 graphics ran in my gfx card

SERIAL AND PARRALEL PORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEED THOSE FOR MY PSIONS! love serial ports

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github's got the files now
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] VigiDroid:
Enjoy porting the rom guys :D

Might watch this thread for a bit to see how far this goes...

and for the record my rom is a port of a port (from hTC wildfire S to hTC Sapphire to hTC wildfire)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Nice. Hopefully this will be successful but we will see
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Lancerfq:
One easy way to have a sense sort of look and feel is the adw sense theme with beautiful widgets app installed, gives the live weather wallpaper with wiperblade n everything and also the sense style clock :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Done something simmilar to that b4 except fancy widget 1.3 and nt sense as well as the adw sense. But this is going to be a true sense. Not theme :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] farazcrx27:
soo whats the progress guys ?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Were starting the basic port and there might be a dev release at some point soon. Serverboost ill get build.prop done soon. Saw your change :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Just basic edify editing XD (raiding right now)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
i know. i checked :) so tempting 2 put a msg saying were sexy right after the fist one :) build.prop is quite confusing but should be able to get it on. also need 2 remove the kernel from it. also again im gonna switch to zombiepanic so we can test both customs and i will test stock too
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Wait.

Ill test ZombiePanic. I already have ZombiePanic on mine. "Ooh Look a lightwell"
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
doh. just flashed. i will use this until we need 2 test :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Does It Boot?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
the rom? no not yet. kernel? yes works great. just removed the kernel form the rom on git

OK just put in modules that work with kernel in (WIFI etc) and replaced build.prop i also removed the kernel for wildfire

actually im gonna put a lot of updates on twitter. http://www.twitter.com/dannyt66666666

if you want to put that on first post feel free (stops me spamming this thread with changes
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
:( my laptop is slowly dying so im ok for now but we may have a problem soon - the hinge on the left side has separated from the base by a magically unscrewing screw. also the glue holding the bezel down has gone separating those aswell..... stupid HP. i posted a pic on twitter but its worse now.... cant even close lid.....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Holy @!#$... Please PM Me or anything when it is dead, and then please both commit the things and save them on a external for a new computer ;) - When it is dead, the project will be TEMPORARYLY CLOSED, I will however, still work on it (reading porting guides ftw)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
That's why my files are on a diff pc :-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xxpeterxx:
on the x8 forums , a sense rom is working , only have minor bugs
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] manolisho22:
if gingerdx could be ported from x8 to x10 mini pro, that rom should also be able to be ported too
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
one problem with that guys. the x8 sense rom is android 2.1 which is impossible to port to the MP because of the way HTC did the GSM framework. so sorry we have to continue porting this 2.3 ROM guys. its going fairly well tho :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] manolisho22:
what are the advances?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
just configured the twitter commit bot fro github! everything we do is auto-posted onto my twitter so as soon as a change its made a tweet will be made about it!

My Twitter
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
guys i have my new pc so the project is back on
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] loupio:
good to have you back, waitng for progress :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Lol, i the one that "co-founded" this - forgot all about it :P
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] azliazmi:
i am also waiting for the project..... :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
You can follow x10man on twitter: @dannyt66666666 (He has git commit bot up)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] azliazmi:
Already follow.....

ZombiePanic 1.6.3

Flame.E by Eyama
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
If this wasn't xda I would put a post full of dots right now :-) also the new pc is amazing I can render 40 min 1080p youtube videos in 15 mins and play minecraft full detail setting 512x texture pack with no lag :-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nightwing369:
Please can this be an Android Gingerbread 2.3.7 rom?

Please can this be made straight from core android AOSP Source code? (to make it as lightweight/speedy as is possible) ??

Thanks :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
the whole point of this rom is that ist HTC sense :) but if this goes well i will go into ROM developing and make 2.3 and maybe a 2.2 rom as there arnt many AOSP roms anymore
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nightwing369:
Ah okay, does that mean you may make a rom based mainly straight from core android AOSP Source code (which will possibly be speedier and more lightweight than some CM7 based roms?) ??

Thanks :)

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P.S. Can you guys start putting up early screenshots (of this rom, also for this other AOSP you've mentioned you may work on soon) when the rom starts taking shape please?

Thanks :D ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
yes and yes :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
Uhm guys? I kinda blew my new PC up... waiting on amazon to send a replacement PSU until then I still have my laptop
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nightwing369:
So looking forward to that! Hopefully it'll be soon :p :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
new motherboard coming tommorow. hope i didnt fry anything else. so assuming all works ok project is back on again tommorow
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
pc is fixed. so everything back on
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kissmyarch:
Lol, don't take me wrong, but the half of this thread is about your broken pc :D

You sure have some bad luck :p

Good luck with your project ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
2 diff pc's :) tip for EVERYONE! invest in surge protection... motherboards + power surge= R.I.P ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX professional. anyway yeah i will do some more work tommorow as its late now (why does chrome not recognise tommorow???????0
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kissmyarch:
Cause it's with double r not m :p
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
i cant even speak my own language..... tomorrow yep chrome likes it :D should really b a suggestion tho
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
so you do something? or is it just offtopic? try to make port from htc hero
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
@paul - We already got something to port. Anyway do you want to join?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
If I had more time I would have joined! i'm soon find more time im help you for porting.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
And ill put more in after I recover from having appendix out... and paul it would be great to have you on board
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rocky869:
How long it will take to complete this rom 5-6 months more or u people can finish it within 2011......if u have made some progress then plz post some screen shots or post some videos in youtube....and if it is impossible to proceed further in development of this rom then plz be frank to us and dont waste our time!!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ChavitoArg:
Did you donate them to complain that way? take it easy. they are not wasting your time, your are wasting it complaining here, go somewhere else
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] myth999:
LOL loser

U want sense?

1. Pray to God to put some sense in you

2. Buy a HTC, u will get the latest sense !

3. Port it yourself

4. Just shut up :D

Simple options just choose one :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rocky869:
It seems both @ChavitoArg & @myth999 lost their cool on my enquiry about the progress of this rom....being a senior member in this forum its quite strange:D.

Anyway what matters me is the timeline for this rom development to complete & that can be given by ServerBoost100 in near future I hope!!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
x10man is still interested. I kinda lost some interest. But i kinda got it back (I am really too bored to read guides right now)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
yeah i just need to get a dev enviroment set up on my new machine so after that then yeah its fine. also asking for ETA's on roms can be a bad idea depending on who your asking which is why ppl got angry
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] smallz2k:
thnx 4 the honesty haha.

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senior member doesnt mean you wont lose your cool...it just means youve made alot of comments ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rocky869:
Someone Plzzz close this thread!!!

Its not updating anything!!!:confused:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] myth999:
I would request my name to be taken off the first post since am not working on this rom...

Thank u.

Regards,

Myth
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
As of this weekend I will be working on this rom again. I have a build enviroment etc set up now and will make a new thread if ServerBoost is not interested anymore (if you are PM me) but otherwise I will work on it and hopefully get it working
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] loupio:
good luck ! :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rocky869:
Great....I also think new thread is the right way to go with dedicated rom developers who keep on updating about the progress of the rom development ;-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] farazcrx27:
why dont you guys try to port the x8 sense the GSM is fixed in it i tried to port it but i am having some problems maybe you get it working ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rocky869:
Everyone wants to know if ServerBoost or x10man either of you working on porting sense rom on x10mp???
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
I personally think it is discontinued. Mods, please lock it.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
I am working on it its just I need a new hard drive for my pc. Then I will sttart
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rocky869:
Great to here that....there is still hope.....

hey x10man!! will u continue this thread or make a new one???
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10man:
I will probably have to start a new one as this one isn't 'mine' so I can't update first post. Unless mods can change the front post and reserved to me?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] static28:
is this still alive?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] TheMiltos21:
I think it is,but anyway they had started another project in the past but no 1st version yet....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Davixxa:
Not for Necroing. But my X10 Mini Pro died a while ago, and I can't continue the ROM.
[About XDA developers] punshkin:
Hi

I recently noticed, that the "total number of thanks" in the XDA app shows 29 for my profile rather than the 4 i actually have.

Is this a defect in the app or does it show how many times i pressed thanks?
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
Mine shows 86 in the XDA App .

I think that it's an issue too .

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[About XDA developers] MacaronyMax:
It is off for me too, Only by 3 however :)

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Okay I just gave thanks to the OP to try this out, then when I refreshed my profile in the app it went from 193 to 194, The app is displaying the amount of thanks, given and not revived, Either it's meant to be like this or it's just a small hiccup someone made :D Should be easy to fix, Also, I just downloaded the app to test (Usually use tapatalk) but is there a reason I can see the dev section?
[About XDA developers] punshkin:
I don't see a reason why you shouldn't see the Dev section. Or did you want to ask "why i can not see Dev section's?
[About XDA developers] MacaronyMax:
No I mean on the app, Above the words general, Is a development section, which mainly mods / admins have posted in,nothing really in it yet.
[About XDA developers] overground:
I have flagged this to the sys admin.
[Desire Themes and Apps] rmg2:
Useless thread, please delete!!!
[Desire Themes and Apps] rmg2:
Reserved for me
[Desire Themes and Apps] MvSt:
Nice MOD ! May i use it for my stock-theme?

Regards,

MvSt
[Desire Themes and Apps] rmg2:
Thanks man.

Of course you can use it for your stock theme, hope to add some stuff this week.

Cheers!
[Desire Themes and Apps] blesal:
Nice Mod, thx for the work ;)
[Desire Themes and Apps] extream_boy2:
tanks i am looking for that!
[Desire Themes and Apps] rmg2:
Missing png on latest MIUI 2.2.10

Deleted!
[Desire Themes and Apps] Dhiraj:
Can anyone make it for non miui Rom ?