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[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyink:
1. No other phone can even come close to this when it comes to emulating. All the emulators support key mapping so all work perfectly with the control pad.

2. Web browsing is good, supports zoom while panning, scrolling is smooth on most web pages, and it's fast. I don't view much flash but the flash I have seen is always fine.

3. The phone is snappy as hell. After deleting the bloat, and installing a custom kernel, which allows overclock, my phone has zero lag. None, I can bounce between apps super fast and without any wait at all. Boot time is comparible to the iphone 4's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKsR8xyFz9A

This is a video I made to show the nonsense of the other video, but it works for letting you know exactly how long it takes to boot.

4. Touch screen is nice and responsive. The only times I find it gets a little weird is when my fingers are all sweaty, like after wearing gloves. But this is normal for capacitive touch screens.

5. I get better reception than my old HTC legend, so yes, it's no slouch as a phone. Texting is just like texting on other phones. Wifi works great, super fast download speeds.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mekano:
Thanks for all your replies ! This sounds great ! I'm so impatient now !

Finally a mobile device allowing me to do everything I like, I waited that for years !
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
speedyink saved me the post, for which I thank him.

You're not the only one who has been waiting for this kind of phone like a godsend. In particular people who don't make heavy use of the phone features are happy with it.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-ericsson-xperia-play

£169.00
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pelly_jelly:
hi there,

I'm also one of those who bought a 230 euro xperia play from expansys and craving for it to arrive :D

In the meantime i did browse through here a little and there's something that concernes me. I'm coming from a good old xperia x10 and i loved every inch of it, my questions about the play are:

1)I've been reading that it has some issues with accelerometer and compass. I suppose that is going to make google maps/navigation a mess? Is it still good enough or the xperia play in that matter is actually WORSE than my X10?

2) stupid question, but what about custom roms/kernel? I've seen that there aren't many of them and most are still in development, which do you suggest (apart from stick to stock rom)?

thanks in advance!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Azeazezar:
There are 9 phones reported to have this issue. probably a bad batch. dont worry to much about it. unless you get one of them of course.

I use cyanogenmod
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ps3taker:
I think with vat it is more expensive than at expansys.co.uk at least before delivery. Hope it helps someone who is looking to get one.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
I just got mine from play.com free delivery and only £199, very good phone :D annoyed at the limited root access but it's all good
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
u only pay vat in the uk dont u? ive never payed it for imports into australia.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ps3taker:
You are right about vat for the UK. Hope they ship to Australia and no custom duty is charged there. Unbelievably low price for the greatest mobile i have known.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cat_On_Droid:
Regarding Web browsing,other phones like HTC,sgs2 are way faster.The zoom is great though,as is the scrolling.It takes more time to load the webpages though.

Battery life is good,you will get through a day with 2 hours per day

The touchscreen i dislike compare to Iphone or SG,hopefully a custom kernel can fix that...

Those are the things i dislike,but i wanted a PSEmulator first,then phone
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pelly_jelly:
oh that's good news. Let's hope the price is low cause all those price-cut phones are the malfunctioning ones :P

As for CM7, i'm a huge fan, but for the play is it stable, is it 100% usable for everyday's life?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cat_On_Droid:
pelly@ its still in development,so not yet.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monkeydrufy:
sorry guys,

is this the exact 3d of cyanogenmod?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1128216

thanks
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ps3taker:
SE XPlay £149.99 + £5 credit on PAYG

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289838

Hope it helps someone
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plymp:
If this is your first motive then immediately buy this phone! I've tried multiple phones (touch screens and qwerty keyboard models) and this is by far the best one for emulation.

Haven't tried all consoles yet as I'm a fan of the 16-bit era, but SNESoid and Gensoid work flawlessly with any rom I've thrown at them so far. They also allow you to save emulator state, add cheats and take screenshots. N64oid is supposed to be good too, but haven't tried that one yet and for PSX you can use FPSE. Since N64 works GBA and GBC should be no problem. Arcade probably depends on the game you want to play, because newer games require more power obviously.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crash27:
Great Phone

I was unsure if I wanted the Play or the Infuse 4G but I went with the Play and I love it, It is a great phone, tons of options, needs a few tweaks and updates but all in all I am happy with it.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mekano:
Ok I got it (I canceled my order on Expansys as I got a nice deal from a shop just near of my home !).

So far I love it. A really great phone, fast, snappy, with a good battery life (when coming from a S-LCD Nexus S). Gamepad is simply awesome, hello emulators ! Sound is very good too.

I unlocked the bootloader, installed Doomlord's kernel on 2.3.3 and deleted bloatware, it rocks.

A few annoyances though:

- Display quality is average : ghosting effect (the most shameful flaw for a gaming phone), bad viewing angles, low max brightness (even with 2.3.4 and automatic light adjustment disabled). The 854 x 480 resolution saves it. I really love those 54 bonus pixels coming from my 800 x 480 Nexus S while browsing in landscape mode, I'm not joking.

- Loose slider : I know it's normal, but I can't get used to it, doesn't feel very solid.

Conclusion: I highly recommend this phone ! Currently playing Ocarina Of Time on n64oid and Legend Of Mana on PSXperia :]
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Red_Kop:
Have they reduced the included card size to 8GB in the UK?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
I came from the Atrix to this and it is a very large drop in specs but I can't tell really especially since I got lucky and my phone is 1.9GHz stable even with it UVed by 100mv. The only problem I've come across is my gf always wants to play freaking crash bandicoot lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] murgytyler:
I have a droid charge and I have it rooted and rommed. My wife liked it, so she wanted me to do her incredible 2. So, I got it rooted and I chose miui rom, but I believe I did something wrong because the phone constantly freezes. I formated the sd card, and now I can't get it to work, as well I need to remove this MIUI, but I don't know how. can someone please help me i am new to this
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Download another ROM and wipe and flash. You may have to use another SD card since you killed the other one.

Sent from my rooted MIUI Dinc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
the newest version of miui 1.9.23 bootloops download 1.9.16
[Windows Phone 7 General] scoob101:
If you use the disconnect trick to force NODO, then you won`t get device drivers for your phone

I`m on mango, but the IE9 speed reading page give me 4fps. No hardware accelleration.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheRaggyGandalf:
Make sure you use the mobile speed read ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/mobile

Forced it got 50+ FPS
[Windows Phone 7 General] Snake.:
50? Im doing like 27, HD7 unbranded
[Windows Phone 7 General] rbrsddn:
What is the answer then? I should have left my focus on 7220, but I thought I'd have trouble getting the full Mango. Hepefully, some will figure it out...:)

PS, that link is broken. Where do we find this speed reader?
[Windows Phone 7 General] pantsaregood:
50+? My HD7 got 27 in the end.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Extreme boy:
27 on my htc hd7 too..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Snake.:
Did you guys updated from nodo or from beta/rtm. Please specify. I updated from the RTM build.
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
my firmware appears to have gone up several revisions
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheRaggyGandalf:
yea that was probably a bug :confused:

After the second try I got 27-29 too.

Seems my phone wanted to prove a point :)

Btw could we compare firmware versions.

HD7 I reverted back to nodo and forced update:

FW: 2250.21.40501.207
[Windows Phone 7 General] Snake.:
2250.21.40502.401
[Windows Phone 7 General] Extreme boy:
fw: 2250.21.40502.707
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Forced update on my HD7 after I reverted back to the very beginning (even pre nodo).

My firmware now is 2250.09.11601.401 weird..
[Windows Phone 7 General] ziko:
No, thats wrong.

For my Optimus 7 i got the "LG-Software Update" at the bottom of the page.

On the first step, to 4403, there was no "LG" in the Disclaimer.

The second update, to Mango, at the bottom of the page appears "LG-Software Update"

Please confirm
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheRaggyGandalf:
Yes It seems the htc update gets installed in the second step together with mango

@ FW revisions the last number is only carrier/location right? so we have 40501 40502 and in the main thread I spotted someone with 40503 oO
[Windows Phone 7 General] makoute:
So is this true or not?
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Any idea why my firmware version differs so much: 2250.09.11601.401 ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheRaggyGandalf:
I have no idea. Can you install the app "Compass 7"? It requires a mango fw that supports the compass
[Windows Phone 7 General] KooTee:
I got 30 FPS on my Samsung Omnia 7.

Forced update in several steps from OS version 7004.

Firmware rev. 2424.11.8.5
[Windows Phone 7 General] gbpucci:
After force mango update from Nodo my firmware is 2424.10.11.1 !!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] SithToast:
I'm getting 27-28 FPS on my Focus.

I noticed when everything updated that it prompted me for a Samsung update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
It seems that even though I managed to recieve the official update my device kept the firmware that came with the ROM I flashed. I was able to install Compass 7, but it tells me my device doesn't support an internal compass. So where the heck do I get the correct firmware from? oO
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheRaggyGandalf:
You could hope for the HTC Update to appear I guess :(

Btw that thanks was an accident in case you wonder ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] gbpucci:
Allshare app dont work too after Mango update !! Can anyone confirms a Samsung phone running Allshare app ??

Thanks !
[Windows Phone 7 General] pwachleman:
Worked for me, very satisfied.

I forced the update on my Focus and my firmware matches my wifes which did not require forcing. We are both on AT&T and our firmware version is 2103.11.8.1, hardware revision number 3.1.0.7, bootloader version 5.8.0.2. My phone also works with the Compass 7 app so Im pretty sure forcing worked ok with my phone. Not how I wanted to do it but kinda forced by circumstances.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Same here. "Forced" my Focus, and my firmware matches yours, and Compass 7 works (albeit rather poorly ;)).

Oh, and I got 29 on the speedreading test.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cherrybombaz:
I got 27fps on the my quantum.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
29 fps on mango rtm here

had a firmware update abt an hour ago
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobzero:
forced mango update on lg quantum, i get 29FPS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fb401:
My firmware is most definitely LG. Granted it says it's from July but there's no doubt that it's updated from the OEM and I started at NoDo.

And I got 25 fps on speed reading.
[Windows Phone 7 General] spokanedj:
My Samsung Focus running Mango Beta 7712 updated to 7720 and the final step was a Samsung update which updated the drivers. I did the force update on my Girlfriends focus running 7390 and after the 7720 update, it had the firmware w/out the additional driver. Our firmwards match and are definately newer that what they were before I started each (checked them first).
[Windows Phone 7 General] breus:
i got 25 fps on my hd7, and i forced the update.

Compass is working, but cant install connected media from htc
[Windows Phone 7 General] Camazza:
I updated my Omnia 7 band gained touch focus, continuous autofocus in videos, and compass support, so no problems for me!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Extreme boy:
My HTC HD7 is having some problems with IE9 now. I'm unable to surf websites. It shows this page cannot be displayed error. Internet is up and running as Marketplace etc is working just fine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
That is because the HD7 doesnt support DLNA. New hardware required ala HTC Hitan or Radar.
[Windows Phone 7 General] georgex:
I'm not sure it can't be fixed. I have HTC Trophy on 7720.68 RTM and Connected Media did not work, giving a message "due to hardware".

Yesterday I did the "HTC Update" and Connected Media now works. Compass also. I guess the problem was firmware (updated) and/or drivers only.
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
HTC Update? Really? How did you get that after upgrading to Mango? Did you force it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] </travis>:
Connected Media works on HTC Trophy, even if it wasn't advertised as a DLNA phone, it still worked, now I'm back to official, the HTC marketplace seems to be I don't know, unorganized? Because when I had the beta 2 mango, attentive phone had 2 versions, the one thats an app, and the one thats integrated, and connected media and locations were still downloadable. But now I can't seem to download connected media, its got an (i) and it says that its either bla bla bla different country bla bla bla, and the integrated attentive phone is now missing. Get it right HTC, sheesh.

HTC 7 Trophy (DE vodafone)

7.10.7720.68

FishTank: 30fps (so where's the 50fps here?)

Speed Reading: 27fps
[Windows Phone 7 General] billy2004:
lg

that was the same for me. lg samsung update at the bottom all went ok!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Snake.:
DLNA is just an update on UPnP. Connected Media App requires drivers (for wifi) to work.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I do notice some lag in transitions. On my HD7 when I'm in the messaging hub and I go from Threads to Online there is some effects in the text, shadowing as it scrolls in. Hard to explain.

That being said, did you guys really take that crap about the uber FPS in the benchmarks from microsoft THAT seriously?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Chatfix:
My HTC 7 Pro has the same software versions with nodo and mango.

It seems I got no driver update. :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
I have no idea if it's really the solution, but I had the exact same issue with my HD7. So I flashed my preNoDo ROM again and started all over. Before I applied 7403 I deleted the backup Zune created in C:\users\...\appdata\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\

After 7403 was finished, I was prompted to install 7720.68 aka Mango. When that process was finished, I finally had the correct firmware. Maybe you should give it a try.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 7carisfast:
LQ Quantum via Forced Update

Firmware 1.1.6.10

Hardware 1.1.0.0

Radio Soft 1.1.6.10

Is this the lastest the Quantum users are seeing
[Windows Phone 7 General] georgex:
I did not get the official Mango update, I was (and still am) on 7720.68 RTM. The "HTC Update" just came up on Zune, I did not force it.

Changes: Firmware/Radio/Bootloader where updated. Attentive phone setting appeared on Settings.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fb401:
Yup, same exact. Also i downloaded Compass from the Marketplace and it works, so the drivers are in there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vintage144:
I ran zune on my phone and it wont upgrade at all , plugged my wifes phone in and it immediately went to upgrade , both phone are developer unlocked Samsung Focus , both were debranded for the nodo updates worked without a hitch , mango updated her phone but it did not give her the firmaware update :

OS version : 7.10.7720.68

firmware: 2103.11.3.3

hardware: 3.1.07

boot:5.3.1.6

Now no matter what I do with my phone I get nothing but "your phone is up to date" 7.07392.0

My wife doesnt even use her phone , she has an Iphone she uses , when I installed the update on her phone it didnt have a sim card installed , might be why the firmware didnt install not sure though!

I will probably force the install!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Extreme boy:
Please post Ur phone's FW number here. My Phone's FW is 2250.21.40502.707 and the thing is Compass and Attentive phone Apps are not there in marketplace :confused:..
[Windows Phone 7 General] cgibsong002:
I appear to also have upgraded firmware/hardware on Samsung Focus for US AT&T. No issues here, loving Mango!
[Windows Phone 7 General] bmazloum:
hrm...i'm getting 29 on my forced Omnia 7.

downloading compass 7, it prompted that it won't work since i don't have "compass"

also, samsung software "All Share" is not supported on my phone.

i notice lagging in my avatar at times in the xbox hub also. was gonna do a hard reset, see if that helps.

what does everyone think?

Omnia 7 Unbranded with registry 000, and timed update trick for NoDo and Mango.

FW 2424.10.10.6

Brother's Omnia 7 with normal NoDo, no trick.

FW 2424.11.2.3 Still no Mango.

Other Omnia 7's, please let me know what you have.
[Windows Phone 7 General] henry084:
I think the disconnect trick does not affect the driver update, as my DVP also got 7720.68 and Firmware 219 by this method.

At the same time my HTC Trophy got bootloader 5.0.2250.1, which is even newer than the ROM posted here.:)

New firmware/drivers and OS update are combined into one for both phones.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
SoC in these phones aren't that good. I simply think people overestimated what they thought the performance would be. That's why they have new phones coming out.

Running Mango on these devices is IMO comparable to running iOS 4.x on an iPhone 3GS. It's really optimized for the newer devices which have better hardware. I doubt the Titan/Radar/Focus S/etc. with the newer SoC/GPU will have those issues, and they will benchmark higher FPS as well due to the upgrade.

---------- Post added at 10:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 AM ----------

Perhaps not, but it does not explain applications refusing to install even though we had them installed 1 second before the update without issues, and they were available in the marketplace with NoDo. No, I don't think I should have to wait for another "Update by HTC" just to install a needed Sound Enhancer when I can rollback to NoDo and use it. I use this phone primarily for media playback. The other benefits in Mango aren't even worth listeining to terrible audio.

I don't listen to genres of music that most people here probably listen to. I need that Sound Enhancer, and I need it now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
I get about 30 fps, and the Compass 7 app definitely is working for me.

Did the disconnect trick last night, on Bell in Ontario.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nohctis:
forced update my tmo hd7 from nodo to mango..

OS Version: 7.10.7720.68

Firmware revision number: 2250.21.40503.531

Hardware revision number: 0002

Radio Software version: 5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21U

Radio Hardware version: A.12.0.D4

Bootloader version: 4.5.2250.0(129966)

Chip SsOC version: 2.2.5.0

the ones in bold are different from other updates i've seen here.

anyone know how to confirm if i have the correct firmware or drivers installed? thanks.

EDIT:

my phone reads 28-29 in speed reading and I can use compass 7.. seems drivers were updated. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Same FW I got from forced update.

I think the FW may be correct.

I think what's throwing people off is moreso the app compatibility issues with HTC apps and the lower benchmark scores from that website, cause they assumed the phone would benchmark like it has a 3rd Gen Scorpion SoC in it...

Get on Twitter and start asking @HTC why their apps aren't working on our phones. Try to illicit a response form them...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vintage144:
I did the forced update on my focus , took about 40 minutes , ran smooth ,mostly just backing up stuff , other than that I got the firmaware updates as well and when I did the update the regular way for my wifes phone she didnt get a firmware update , so I m happy going this route!
[Windows Phone 7 General] leftspeaker2000:
HD7 nodo to mango carrier not locked, never been cracked

OS version 7.10.7720.68

Firmware revision number 2250.21.40502.401

Hardware revision 0002

boot loader 4.5.2250.0(129185)
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Wrong thread.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Chatfix:
Works not for me :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Sorry to hear that. Maybe I was just lucky. :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] 7carisfast:
30fps based on what internet connection (wi-fi, 3G, etc.)?
[Windows Phone 7 General] NickWKent:
This is my info as well. HTC HD7 TMOUS
[Windows Phone 7 General] dudeguy24:
Got the same as this on my US T-Mobile HD7. However, the sound enhancer refuses to update on the marketplace, but the Attentive phone app works.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 7carisfast:
So If I'm only at 5-7 fps connected thru my home Wi-fi with a download on 10MB/sec (confirmed through phone utility), can some explain what is needed to be done? I'm no where near your 25-30fps. Thx.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Camazza:
The disconnect trick appears to have some effects on the way the phone is updated, or maybe it's just the update procedure that has some faults (and that's why MS is rolling out Mango very slowly). However here's my experience:

Italy No-Brand Omnia 7, if I restore NoDo from the Zune Backup and update, it does NOT update the FW and the drivers. No touch focus, no compass, no autofocus in videos, no hidden wifi.

Then I flashed the phone to a pre-NoDo Italian official FW, updated to 7392, did the disconnect trick and magically I was running Mango with the lastest FW (2424.11.8.5), compass is working, touch focus too, continuous autofocus in videos is pretty useful and the hidden wifi feature is there.

Kind of makes me wonder...
[Windows Phone 7 General] xirsteon:
Just pulled the plug on the update tonite but didn't force it. Just plugged in the phone and it auto prompted me about the HTC Update for my HD7 branded phone.

I had the 7720.68 running prior from the leaked ones.

After the update I have:

hardware revision number: 2255.021.40503.531

bootloader version: 4.5.2250.0 (129966)

And DLNA works (Connected Media) with my Samsung TV DLNA capable 46" led tv. Prior to upgrading tonite, I received the 'Your device is not supported' msg when I launched the Connected Media app.

Has anyone else get the DLNA HTC app to work with this update?
[Windows Phone 7 General] amitwats2004:
I forced updated to mango, and now my HD7 phone information is -

OS Version: 7.10.7720.68

Firmware revision number: 2250.21.40502.401

Hardware revision number: 0002

Radio Software version: 5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21U

Radio Hardware version: A.102.0.D4

Bootloader version: 4.5.2250.0(129185)

Chip SsOC version: 2.2.5.0

Is the above with latest firmware? can somebody confirm?