yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] michelD:
Concerning Lord Clockan, yes I already discuss the high CPU load problem with him but I don't think he found the solution up to know (he suspect a problem with Dalvik...); but I didn't tell him my "opinion" about the value of rr_interval.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
i wonder... if you try my posted settings (ondemand gov settings and misc kernel settings - vm and io are not important here) with lordmod cfs 8 and compare the same settings with kernel bfs 8 while using your misc settings for kernel (as this is now a bfs kernel), does it feel different?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
hi a user, I'm currently using the version that came free with BlackICE (v1.2.6 free)

sorry if this is an obvious question but i was looking for profiles like you find on setcpu, e.g. when the screen is off it will scale the cpu down to a very low frequency. is this a feature in the paid version? or a feature to come in the future? or do you think it's not really that necessary?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] eliashadow:
its working great my friend!!!and perfect work from you overall...;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
all features of the paid version are viewable in the free, though not functional ;)

anyhow to answer your question:

1. no, i currently have no event triggered profiles.

2. i might add something like that in future version. though currently i am working on something quite unique. do not want to tell to much before it isn't at least ready for internal testing.

3. limiting your max freq on screen off is a totally useless thing. in some (very) rare situation this actually can even increase battery consumption. but this is really a special situattion.

i had a long discussion with michelD (poster above ;) ) in lord clockans kernel thread about this, both doing extensive tests etc.... the conclusion was: limiting the max freq (except when overclocking!) has absolutely no practical benefit.

and even if one would like to do it it would be a bad idea to do it event triggered by the app. as we now setcpu can do this but such events are triggered to slow between screen on/off and thus cause small lags.

beside of this lordmod kernel already has a limiting to a usefull freq (something over 600MHz) inlcuded. this is a usefull limit if someone overclocks.

other events triggering profiles like temperature, or low battery etc. could be usefull additions in future version. but it has low priority on my todo list.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
awesome, thanks for the thorough reply, i always appreciate your quick responses to questions.

a unique feature... intriguing! looks like i'll have to jump on the market ASAP to get the full version. looking forward to future updates!

cheers
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
well actually v1.3.2 has already some features (settings) i never saw elsewhere. but i am working on something special. i hope free time permits progressing fast on this.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] michelD:
I tested you settings this night with UE 8.1 b5 CFS: no too bad indeed; 0.5%/h battery drain and very smooth, but I hope to further improve....;)

BTW I see that we follow the same routes (at least partly: lower vfs_pressure, lower latency & granularity,...).

Have a nice day.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
yep, but i must say i haven't observed any difference between vfs_pressure being 20, 50 or (linux defualt) 100. though this might be because i nearly always have >>200MB free mem and thus it never really needs to what to keep in the cache.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
we have no swap, hence it does not matter what value we have in swappiness.

also after a closer look vfs_cache_pressure i think because we have no swap this value also does not matter. there is no pagecaching without swap. so all cache will be used for inode caching etc. anyway.

also all the dirty_* settings are useless without swapping, as there is no page caching.

according to this

http://dd.qc.ca/people.redhat.com/kernel/min_free_kbytes.html

i think that also min_free_kbytes is a useless parameter.

ofcourse if you use any kind of swap e.g. compcache or zram the settings have some purpose.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
thanks for this, you saved me some google work, i was about to sit down and start looking up what all of the different parameters meant when i saw your post.

although like a user said, if your phone doesn't have a swap partition then no need to worry about those ones!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] carstenheuer:
...really nice app...:p
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Stilleh:
Using your settings with lord's 8.1b4, fantastic...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
Glad to hear and thank you guys!

Sent from my SysTune tweaked SCI MIUI powered Desire HD
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] kitecarl:
OK a seemingly stupid question! If I choose Apply on Boot for any of the settings tabs after monkeying around with the settings and then say flash a new kernel, will the new kernels default settings be applied on first boot? I'm hoping this is the case since I think my settings changes are having an adverse effect on battery life so I'm hoping to go back to tried and true settings. Thanks as always
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
when you flash a new kernel systune will not detect it. so if you previously checked apply on boot it will apply your settings on boot.

though, if some of the settings it tries to apply is not existent then it won't apply them. this behaviour is intensional for various reason. one is that even different kernel it will make sense to use sane settings on the same device. second there actually is no 100% reliable way to detect a kernel change, at least not a simple one. the kernel name string needs not to be different.

but in worst case just uncheck "apply on boot" and reboot.

p.s. i will add in the future a flashable zip to disable systune applingh anything on boot. this zip will be save to sd from the systune app (similar feature as setcpu already has).

p.p.s. thank you for buying systune btw. promote it to others ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
do these changes affect battery life or only performance? (obviously improving both performance and battery life is the holy grail ;))
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
only latency (the smoothness)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] shadowlabs9:
Hi,

Thanks for this great app.

Problem: I'm getting FC with the stress test.

(I'm using it with your SCI rom.)

best regards
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
i answered you in my roms thread. the issues seems to be that it is installed as system app and is running native stuff via jni.

so this won't affect other users. see my reply in my roms thread for a temporary solution for you.

p.s. thank you for the support!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
updated my systune settings for the misc tab (see second post).

just removed some vm-settings as i do not intend to change there anything also reduced sched_latency_ns a bit.

also new SysTune 1.3.6 is on the market. Cpu stress test supports now multiple CPUs/Cores.

Though it is still only a pure cpu stress using native calculations. In the future i will include a stress test using GUI functions as i observed it greatly increases the chances of failours which we want to detect non stabil settings.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] hawkwind:
Does anyone have any governor settings for sense roms, Mikes revolution HD in particular.

I would guess the settings that are recommended for miui would be no good for a sense rom.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
as long as you don't get other recomendations i suggest try them out.

maybe reduce the powersave_bias to 50 if it is not smooth. but beside of this the settings should also be quite good for sense roms.

worth a try and report back. use my settings as a starting point and then maybe play a bit with the settings around.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] hawkwind:
Thanks, i`ll give them a try then :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
new version 1.3.7 has greatly improved cpu stress test.

i think i'll keep it that way now and will next add a stress test using GUI elements to increase detecting of instabilities.

as usually feedback is more than just welcome ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Frostyeo:
Can I apply your misc settings for BlackIce 1.12? :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
sure. they are tuned for the cfs kernel. though if you ahve the bfs kernel it will simply skip not fitting settings so no problem here.

but after you applied them you should save them under a different name to keep a settings profile fitting your available settings.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Frostyeo:
So if I apply your governer and kernel settings, will it help with battery life? :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
i am not sure what blackice default settings are. but i think if not identical then they are at least very similar to mines as they used my recommendation.

in any case my personal settings are a bit more towards battery saving.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
hey mate, trying to play with kernel settings, for example sched_min_granularity_ns, but whenever i press apply it immediately flips back to default value. do you know why that would be?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
does this happen only for the kernel settings or for the whole misc tab? also does the other tbs work or does there happen the same?

i assume you have bought it, right?

please use the feedback button in the help tab to send me a report. maybe i see what went wrong from the generated report.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
Kernel and VM settings only. IO settings working in the misc tab, and all other tabs working fine. And yep this is paid version

Just sent a report, thanks mate :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
just for the protocol: problem solved via email. ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
haha yep, easiest fix you've ever had i reckon (just make sure you're pressing the right 'apply' button) :p

thanks!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
small update to my systune settings linked in second post. forgot to update the posting when i changed the so i am doing this now.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] rosswaa:
anyone know the best settings for cm7? im on latest nightly
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
see post two. as miui and cm7 are very similar in this aspect (cm7 is the base of miui) the settings should have the same effect on both.

try bfs or cfs and chose what feels better.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] hawkwind:
Hi, i have just installed your rom thanks :)

Where do i put your Systune settings when i have downloaded them?

In sci-miui it says on sdcard/systune but i do not have this folder on my sd card.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joedeuce:
create the folder if you don't have it ;)

Inspire 4G // BlackICE
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] hawkwind:
Found it, i saved my settings from the menu and the folder appeared on my sd card.

So i guess that i save your 3 settings there and then load them from the systune/menu/load settings.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joedeuce:
exactly :)

you will have to load the files in each tab though

Inspire 4G // BlackICE
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] hawkwind:
Thanks Joe :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
I see you solved it

Sent from my SysTune tweaked SCI MIUI powered Desire HD
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] kitecarl:
Ok so apologies go out to alienmind. I didn't read the instructions right earlier on where to save the .set files for importing earlier. No problems now importing on BlackIce.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
i will change systune on next version to create that directory on first startup. it is not intuitive for the user to first save settings to get that directory.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] djcsurf:
Am using SCI .28 v2.0

When I select CPU stress test and press start the stress test just closes as if id pressed the cancel button.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
yes i know. somehow it fails using a native library when installed as system app.

you can reinstall it by navigating to /system/app and click on systune.apk. then it will work. but because it is the same version it maybe will fail again after reboot.

to permanently fix this you need to remove it from the system using titanium and then install it as normal app. extract the apk from the rom.

sorry for this but i am investigating why it does not work if it is included as system app. have to find a solution or simply add it to the SCI MIUI op as downloadable apk.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] D4rKiTo:
Works fine in my galaxy R.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] djcsurf:
Ok, no problem.

I know there was previous problem with stress test force closing, didn't think it was same cause. Will install separately.

Sent from my pukka fukka SCI MIUI
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
it is the same problem. only the fc got catched now and results in closing the dialog.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] baste07:
i'm on ARHD ROM for INC S using RCMIX Kernel V7.

not sure if you have recommended settings i can use?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
i have no real experience with that rom. but you can use my linked settings as a base for yours. that's what systune is for: tweaking the stuff.

if i had the perfect settings for everyone than tehre would be no need for systune as we could simply integrate them into the rom via scripts and we are done.

use my settings as a base and play around the available options. if you have question about the settings firs try to google about them to inform yourself a bit and then we can talk about them here and exchange our opinon and results with them.

as it is wirtten: systune is for users that like to tweak their system.

i can help you to understand some settings you do not get enough information for, or at least i can try, but i can't have optimal settings for all ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] baste07:
thanks man. i'm going to try to load your settings and see from there.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] baste07:
In the I/O read ahead values doesn't stick after reboot. It goes back to 128 for mmcblk1. Mmcblk0 is at 1024, can I change that one to a higher value?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
could you use the feedback button to send me the info file?

i suspect the reason are wrong permissions in the rom. if this is the case i could fix this with a workaround.

don't forget to mention in the mail who you are and what this mail is about. ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] baste07:
Thanks, ill do that right now
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] baste07:
Sent email with info file. Thanks
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sachin kamboj:
good app...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joedeuce:
great app :)

Inspire 4G // BlackICE
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] krohme:
currently testing a users settings - but If I ever want to return to default settings what is the procedure?

:)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
simply uncheck apply on boot and reboot.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joedeuce:
I doubt you will want to return. :)

Inspire 4G // BlackICE
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] krohme:
guys can someone tell what is the correct procedure to enable all of 'a users' systune setting? I loaded the settings and clicked 'apply on boot' for the following;

* CPU

*Governor

*IO Settings

*Kernel

*VM

is that it?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] cmoi_ca:
goood joob
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] baste07:
Not really, an experienced tweaker always asks that question.

And what works for someone is not the best for others. Even the developer says that.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
not sure what you mean. but after checking "apply on boot" you have to click the apply button, how the tooltip suggests.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] colonel_lp:
I've just started using your app, but am also using an app that switches governor & thresholds depending on battery status (CPU tuner) obviously I wont be using the CPU Tab.

1)will these 2 apps play nicely together?

2) if I use settings in governor tab, will they stick through a governor change, or will they reset, I'm guessing that its an on the fly thing, so last app to make the call wins?

Sent from my Desire HD
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
1. if the governor settings survive a governor switch depends on the kernels implementation. usually this should work. if not you should tell this the kernel dev as it this is a bug.

2. why at all do you wanna switch governors depending on screen on off? there is no gain. switching governor and/or min/max freq is totally useless. depending on what you change to it can even make things worse (even battery consumption)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] colonel_lp:
Thanks for your reply,

1) i think the thing i am wondering is if the settings are specific to governor type, if i make settings for GOV A while it is active then make settings for GOV B while active(in your app), if i cycle A > B > A , will A & B's settings be intact ? i.e. i think i am asking where the changes are stored, (in your app or some kernel specific settings file) Sorry i dont know much about all this yet.

2)i will take on board what you say in regard to this,have only started testing that app same as just testing yours, but have had good results so far.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
as i said, if the kernel cooker did his job right then the governor settings will get saved and restored if the governor gets set again. this is not done by my app.

my app just sets the governor and then for the currentlys active governor the governor advanced settings (of course only if you want systune to make that).
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mwilky:
@a user, i just emailed you via systune app, but i have fixed my problem :), had to load the settings each time before i pressed apply on each section
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Stilleh:
Time for a settings update? Lord's 8.5 is out.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
Give the man a chance, it's only just come out! :p j/k I know you're just making a suggestion ;)

I tried the suggested settings on the 8.3b5 and they actually made things a bit worse, in terms of battery at least. So I imagine new settings are in order. We could always tinker around ourselves ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Stilleh:
But I need guidance... I feel lost without a users knowledge.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] maatsby:
i hear ya. the man is a walking encyclopedia. or is it linux-opedia
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
google helps :P

guys, no need to change any of the settings. i am not using 8.5 but the 8.3 beta 5 cfs.

didn't even had time to flash a new kernel and i hope i can cook my new rom version after i wake up in a few hours and before i have to leave again.

it is nearly 5am here :(
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
For SGS / SGS2 and maybe for many other users that have kernels not properly exporting available frequencies: i have implemented a workaround to still find out what frequencies are available.

So it should work now for those that it didn't worked before due to that reason. Maybe wanna give it a try again ;)

1.4.3 should be available very soon on the market.

edit: believe it or not, but i have nearly as much workaround code than "normal" code (excluding gui stuff).
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] knightofthe9:
Looking forward to giving this a try! I just rooted my r800at. Greatly need for this bloatware bogged device!! :|
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
nice. give some feedback. especially if something is not working properly. you know, one cannot own and test on every device that exists ;)

if you have an issue use the feedback button in the app. it allows to send you an email with an attached report file. and don't forget to explain what exactly is the issue in the email.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] EniGmA1987:
I really like this with the exception of two things:

1) the voltage adjustment is TERRIBLY hard. I like how fine the adjustments are but I have to click for literally 20 minutes straight to set the idle speeds voltage to the level I want. And thats only voltage for 1 speed, then I have to do 10 other speed steps. At that point I didnt even bother adjusting voltage anymore cause it was too much of a pain to do. It needs to have a slider or something in addition to plus and minus so people can drag the bar down to a general level and then fine tune it from there.

2) The app crashes on my EVO 3D every time I press back to exit and then go back in later on. It seems to work fine still as I just open it a second time and it opens again and works. But then once I exit back to my home screen, if I ever go into the app again it crashes the first time and I open it a second time to start using it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
1) how much do you undervolt this single one volrtage level that you need to click so often on the button? Oo

beside of that you should never change the voltage so much without doing a test for stability in between.

explaint this please as i do not see any practical reason for this. actually the decrease/increase all buttons i include only due to strong requests. i strongly recomend against using them and i do not see why anybody who knows how to undervolt safely would need such a feature but prove me wrong ;)

2) when you get a crash you get the pop up about sending a report. please press send and add some info about what you were doing etc.

i can then see a traceback in the google dev console.

thank you for the feedback.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] EniGmA1987:
I already know the safe voltage levels from using other programs and doing testing and such. The default is something like 850mv, I drop down to 700mv. The SysTune app from the market I got goes down in incredibly fine increments. Normally things go 12.5mv per step, your program seems to be doing something like .00125 per step. SO where I normally click 12 times on System Tuner, on your SysTune I must click like a thousand times or something. My guess is you have a decimal in the wrong place, but if you actually meant to go this fine on the levels then it is quite long to click down.

My CPU does great undervolting, all levels are a minimum of 8 steps down on other programs (-100mv), with some levels being taken as much as 13 steps down (-165.5mv) :)

Alright I will each time for the next few times I open the app and it crashes on me
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
i check that. i have set 25mV steps, so it should be only 6 steps.

gonna look into it tomorrow if a decimal went wrong.

very strange i just tried it myself in the app and it goes 26mV up and down. will look into the code tomorrow again but this is really odd.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] a user:
just rechecked the code. it is alright.

my guess is that your kernel maybe exports the value not in mV but in uV (micro volt).

can youi post a screenshot of the voltage tab or tell me how some of the volrtage values look like? is it e.g. 850 or is it 850000 ?

edit: also when you press the decrease button one time does the value change?