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[Epic 4G General] optimiss:
Do you have the ICS Google+ leaked app installed? If so, that is the culprit. Happened to me. Try removing it.
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
No google + here.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
Hmm

I've been getting FC errors on Acore as well, except for me its only on contacts when i hit 'get friends'

I tried everything, but learned to just live with it since I still get it after a fresh ec05 odin.

I've switched so many roms, and have also done tons of dalvik, cache wipes, etc. I did have google+ ics, but i had long gone removed it with still the same issue, it seemed that FB was the culprit for me, but even then, with FB totally removed, i still get the issue so im all out of ideas. I've removed Contacts, DATA, but it still remains with that issue. its very minor, i dont use the get friends feature anymore anyway.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
You should look at a logcat of that. It is probably erroring on a data read or sync. Or if you have something frozen that is needed. I had an FC just viewing contacts months ago. I had a bad contact somewhere and had to remove them all and resync.
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
Okay now my phone is getting worse. Getting FC's all the time, could be playing a game, turning on/off wi-fi, turning on/off 4G, I can't add ANY contacts, Gmail no longer pushes, I have to refresh it just to get email.

I am getting pissed about it now. Trying to hold out for a decent Gingerbread ROM so I can re-flash and see if it helps (doubt it will).

I get errors when I try to Sync Facebook, and Gmail contacts from the settings menu.

I have cleared cache, contacts data, etc. I fully expect the problem to still be there after I re-flash my phone. This sucks.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
You need to do a factory data reset and not restore any data unless you are absolutely sure there was no corruption. FCs occur from data corruption. You also need to make sure journaling is enabled to reduce the risk of corruption in the future.
[Epic 4G General] corythug:
I had similar fc issues with contacts when I had the ics google+ app, on my NS4G atleast its a known issue. Just tossing some ideas out...
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
I really hope its the ics google+ app I'm getting same fc's in contacts and the contact information(when you tap a conacts picture). No matter what ROM I've been on same issues.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
I have never had any google + app on my phone...
[Epic 4G General] Fire n mage:
Disable automatic updates and select "don't sync" when you log into fb app
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
I ended up flashing my phone to EH17 last night. I formatted my sdcard. I lost a couple things that I would have preferred to keep, but I wanted a 100% fresh start.

So far today, not a single FC of any kind.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
Under mango or one of the firmware updates which had been updated recently , u will see yr battery saver is fluctuating , at one time saying u have a 1 day, while another time it says u only 2 hours on a reasonably fuller charge.

there is a problem with HTC original batteries, rather i will say a safety regulation after recent incidents with battery safety

yr htc only charges up to 85% level even though the phone indicator shows 100%

when u unplug it from the charger, it immediately drains and stays at 80%.

THis is likely why the HTC phones have a shorter battery life, whether its android or windowsphone 7

this is not a defective battery, its made intentionally by HTC for 2 reasons 1) safety , 2)battery longevity ,the safety mechanism built in stops charging it to 100%, thus overcharging, overcharging means the battery is out thru stress which may pose a hazard. if a battery is fully charged to true 100 % , it poses a hazard if one of the pins in the phone connectors break. apparently this pin tells the charger or the phone not to charge anymore once reaching 100%. there is a possibility that if this pin breaks, the phone will overcharge and pose a safety hazard. So this is why HTC batteries dont charge to true 100% and this particular pin is tweaked to full charge to only 80%

wheareas, mugen batteries ect do not have this safety regulation or charging limit although they are safe to use, so they seem to last 20% more than stock HTC battery because they fully charge to 100%.

Mugen or other reputed aftermarket batteries are more likely to wear out sooner than stock batteries unless depending on the quality of the battery..

in order to get yr HTC battery to full charge it u need to bump charge it.bump charging is a technique to fully charged the battery closer to its real capacity

to bump charge

1) fully charge the battery from 20% to 100% , as indicated by the phone OS

2) turn off the charger, turn on again, u will notice the phone charges again even though its 100% full for 1/2 a minute. wait for it to fully charge

3) repeat the above step 2) for 10 times

4)use a timer plug to simplify the process. Set the timer plug to on/off every minute for 10 times. u need to get a digital timer for this purpose with mutiple timer settings
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aphasaic2002:
Interesting. I noticed this with my HTC Mozart; battery indiactor drops one bar (to 80-85%) as soon as I take it off charge. Always assumed it was a WP7 thing - like it was drawing a lot of current.

Where did you get this info from? Looks like I'll be ordering a new (non-HTC) battery asap!
[Windows Phone 7 General] NebZoNe:
If it's true i won't buy a plug timer but a new battery, not from HTC...at least i hope it's true caus my battery capacity sucks and that gives me hopes, enjoying my hd7 more than a half day without plugging it (when it's possible)...so nuff thanks for the tip.
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Funny, I have always done this with every device (maybe not the x 10 repeat!). never knoew that was the reason though thanks!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
not only HTC, there are couple of other devices like samsung galaxy ect
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
now u know why they claim mugen and other aftermarket batteries last longer...

mugen 1500 mah battery with the same size as the stock 1230 mah batt>

thats bull..because a 1500 mah battery looks much bigger ... the samsung omnia 7 has a 1500 mah battery and its 30% larger than than the HD7 battery....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
thats because the battery stops charging once it reaches 85%

u may have heard of the HTC bump charging technique. thats what this si all about , but u need to do it everyday, so get a timer plug and leave it to do its job overnight everyday

the best is to use a digital programmable timer plug .
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aphasaic2002:
Ok, had a google and looks like your post is only partially true:

http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/

Appears it's an issue with all smartphones, not just HTC! Also bump-charging will dramatically reduce battery life.

As someone in the comments says; why can't the phone just stop charging and switch to running wall power once battery gets to 100%, same as laptops? I assume this is what Apple do, as the iPhone doesn't suffer from the same issue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
Interesting because I have no problems with my battery doing that running Mango beta 7712 on my HTC 7 Pro.

The moment I take my battery off once it turns green, it stays at 100% for hours if there's absolutely no activity on it.

I think it's how far you guys are draining your batteries. Ever since I've gotten my phone, only twice did I push the battery lower than 15% charge; once on accident and another to recalibrate it. After that, I never pushed it lower than 15% and made sure to only recharge it after at least a good 20% of usage (days i feared i wouldn't be near a charger and needed full charge).

Granted, I'll add that it maybe be because I swap the battery out every other night with a spare, and if I do so I make sure there's between 50-58% charge left.

No bump charging either.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
yes its better to maintain 20% charge .
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
If u noticed the iPhone batteries wear out faster.

About year or so.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
Just to confirm I have used the timer plug technique twice the last 2 days .

This is what I have

30% charge

8 hours since last charge

Moderate usage.

Somehow those who claim to use momax or mugen batteries claim to have the same results above .
[Windows Phone 7 General] schranz01:
the charge-controller is in the phone not the battery.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
apparently it still the battery...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
up for awareness.....
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
My HD7 doesn't do this. Tried several times even over a 5 minute span keeping the battery indicator in view. It never dropped to 80%.

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You should not let Li-ION batteries fully discharge, ever. It's good to keep it on a charger whenever you can, than keep it off a charger and let it fully discharge. That wears the battery out.

Also, there's no risk in overcharging the battery because almost all decent phones will stop charging when the battery is full. They know when to stop charging, just like they know when to alert you that the battery is fully-charged (via a notification and/or changing the LED Notification light color).
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
You actually can overcharge it by exposing a fully charged battery to higher temperatures - putting the phone in direct sunlight or setting it in a car holder in the way of hot air from the heater deflector while using Satnav, for example. In order to avoid these conditions, controllers do prevent batteries from 100% charge. That being said, I don't think there's a standard for marking battery capacity, and an honest manufacturer should put real effective battery assembly capacity accounting for those limitations, not the sum of capacities of included cells. Don't think they do it really.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
Yea, its like computer hard drives and flash cards....Formated they never will be the size your quoted or paid for.

I wish there was standards for this and it's only sold on the actuall usable space or time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
It's actually still not good to leave li-ion batteries plugged in when they are fully charged and stopped charging. They will suffer from capacity loss that way as well. Not to mention any heat coming off the device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
Update: i did not bump charge today..

and the old symptom returned again.. draining fast
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
so use a timer plug

set it to 2 hours in the night

another hour before u wake up
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
The reason why batteries in laptops lose capacity when you used them plugged is because they are exposed to a lot of heat while fully charged. If you leave your phone plugged and don't use it, this isn't happening.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jasongohjr:
Same here on my hd7 I tried all methods and the battery life is still not as good... I think it's becoz of my usage... Normally 3hrs is the max when I strain it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
for laptops yes...., phones stop charging when full.

u can touch them and feel if there is any heat. HD7 when fully charged is not heated ... its cool...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
had the same problem....now its not anymore... try usingmy technique u will see an improvement
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The phone stops charging it. Its doing nothing when full charged.

And it only heats up when used. It will still heat up off the charger of course. You watch netflix with your phone off the charger, good luck with that.

Seriously. All the phone does is repeatedly bump charge which is actually good for the battery. We've already had this convo in the android forum...
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Correct. I'm not even going to bother continuing the discussion. People who bump.charge and keep their phones on a charger all the time always end up with longer lasting batteries than those who don't. I get over 20 hours on my vibrant with upper moderate usage and background update for everything turned on, easily.

People who keep their phone off the charger a lot and let it die occasionally, not so much... And this phone has pretty bad battery life compared to some others.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
keeping thw the phone on the charger with 100 % does not do anything harmful...

basically its the phone which decides if it wants to take a charge.....this is at least true for current generation batteries. some like iphones will keep running on the battery until unplugged...

some outdated articles will tell u not to leave it on the charger at 100% because its harmful or not to fully drain it , this is for older generation lithium batteries maybe from the 2000 and before era.

As usual things dont always remain the same technology. Improvements will be made.

since then lithium ion batteries have undergone few changes

THIS is the proper information u should know

1) apply topping charges from 20% and above as much as u can instead of a full charge unless u are calibrating the phone indicator. a full charge from 0% will cause battery hysteris, (the beer in a mug and foam on top effect)

2) current lithium in batteries will allow u to fully drain it as long as u fully charge it as soon as u can. no harmful effects done

3) u can leave the phone battery on the charger at 100 %.

4) bump charging often will help yr battery reach another 20% more life and there is no overcharging involved as the battery can only take in what it can. Bump charging also helps the battery to fill up the 20% "safety compensation" meant for overcharging built in in current generation batteries

5) Bump charging a phone myth wears out the battery faster...This is not true because the phone battery can only take in what it can...the wearing out effect is an effect u notice after living on a bump charged phone for a long time. The cells in the batteries degrade over time whether u bump charge or not. When the battery wears out u seem to notice its lasting shorter as usual

Most lithium ion batteries start to wear thin after 18 months as their charge cycles are being used up.its good to change batteries yearly
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
There's a caveat. The controller will actually shut the battery off at a certain threshold, which isn't 0%, to prevent total discharge. Just like it protects the cells from overcharging.

However, it is recommended that you do not keep depleted battery without recharging for prolonged periods of time as it can actually drive the charge below the safe level. Also, it is risky to expose a depleted battery to cold temperatures as with temperature charge will drop.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
that depends on what type of batteries... i have kept some batteries fro my old electric shaver.. uncharged for a year... then decided to charge it..they charge find and worked fine...

the electric shaver like Braun also uses a lithium battery
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
basically in phones affected by battery hysteris and charge limitation

u will see this effects

Charge limitation:

phone drains to 90 or 85 % when unplugged with little or no use

Battery hysteris ( with /without charge limitation)

phone fast drains battery linearly from 100 % and lasting a lot more on the last 20- 5%

the above should not be confused with

incorrect battery indicator

incorrect battery indicator is an OS fault which shuts off yr phone prematurely before 0% is reached. means yr phone shuts off from any percentage other than 0%

If so u need to do the usual battery calibration. this can happen after a OS or firmware update where the phone power requirements are changed probably due to better or worst power efficiency of new code or firmware. an example of this can be seen with iphones...whenever a OS upgrade is done which claims to be faster, the cpu is overclocked by apple. so this draws more power. its common knowledge that apple underclocks their cpu whenever their new phone is released and then gradually increases it with OS updates

as u can see the HD 7 has all 3 of the above...but the mango actually may not have overclocked but underclocked the cpu, as i read somewhere according to a forumner here who used the wp bench app that , it just improves the flash media read and write speed making mango more snappier. so there is no reason if my conclusions are correct about mango , the battery should be much worst than nodo. it should be better...probably the phone manufacturer did something else with the firmware like charge limitation to prolong battery lifespan or to do some electrical safety regulation . this is the reaso why some ppl claim the phone charges faster in mango..

this is confirmed because with each OS update there is a firmware update to go with it which deals with hardware functions.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hmotwr:
I bought an extended batery for my incredible and noticed that it lasted exactly the same as my regular battery. Then tried charging it with the phone off and then the charge lasted a lot longer (what it was suposed last in the beginning)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
dont try this with iphones....

because iphones charge to full 100% even with the OS on. thats they have pretty good battery life coupled with the OS , screen size and type...

i spoilt my iphone battery in this way, charging while its off.. apple forgot something here in their design.. they probably overlooked it
[Windows Phone 7 General] schranz01:
how a lipo is realy charged:

The basic process is to charge at constant current until each cell reaches 4.2 V; the charger must then gradually reduce the charge current while holding the cell voltage at 4.2 V until the charge current has dropped to a small percentage of the initial charge rate, at which point the battery is considered 100% charged. Some manufacturers specify 2%, others 3%, but other values are also possible. The difference in achieved capacity is minute.

It is important to note that trickle charging is not acceptable for lithium batteries.

for more info use wiki
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
if i not wrong , this is for Lithium ion polymer aka Iphone battery

lithium ion types without the polymer, a variety of methods are available

we are not able to determine which method are used for HTC phones.

i highly suspect that either constant voltage - variable current or variable voltage - constant current
[Windows Phone 7 General] schranz01:
on my htc battery from my mozart is a sticker wich says li-ion polymer battery.

lol iphone-battery
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
Uh heat will definitely hasten the process for sure, but your battery still loses capacity because of age (nature of the chemical reaction)

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I guess I don't have to worry because I don't watch Netflix on my phone.

How is it good? You're just going through the number of cycles the battery has faster? Discharging 10% usage and then charging it back up again counts as one cycle to the battery.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
no its not 1 cycle.

its 10% of a cycle..
[Windows Phone 7 General] schranz01:
short cycles are better than long ones. to short is also not good cause more V more damage. but only short cycles is also not good.

so what shoud we do??

is this the topic of the thread??

I have a mugen 1800 and a stock htc so i will perform a test this weekend with a batterydrainer app to see which has more power.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
10 characters
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
pls update us.......
[EVO 4G General] arjunmangal:
hai, i'm using htc evo 4g on boost mobile. I want to root & flash sense 3.5 on it, if i do it my boost carrier lose or not??
[EVO 4G General] joeblaster:
Nothing will change other than mms you probably will need to change it back to

mm.myboostmobile.com one you flash to a new rom.
[EVO 4G General] J_apa_n:
a bad flash could screw up it meid (from experience) but i doubt it will happen

im on 3.5 now, there is NO EPST, so grab apn backup/restore from market & back up your apn

flash it

restore your apn, & you should be all good

pm me if up need help, i've broken & fixed my phone almost 100 times this month
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Markiddo:
Is there any way that allows infuse owners to use the bright flash that our led bulb produces after the first flash when taking photos ?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
First flash? like a pre flash? if you set the camera to flash on and tap the screen it will light up before taking the picture...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] boothcr79:
Do you mean as a flashlight? Or what?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Markiddo:
When you take a picture a preflash shoots and then a big and powerful flash shoots, I know there are certain apps which allow you to turn on the pre flash and use it as a flashlight ... but I'm wondering if there's any way to use the really powerful flash as a flashlight.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] beatblaster:
TeslaLED will allow you to use the flash as a flashlight but I haven't found any apps that allow you to use the LEDs at their max potential (and haven't looked for any either).
[Samsung Infuse 4G] koriotto:
Tiny flashlight+LED app free on market will allow to use the camera led anytime through the app itself or widget.

I dont know if its on the MAX it can yet im sure that thing its bright enough!!

Besides using the LED to its max power for an extense period of time will probably damage it maybe thats why it only max powers for a seconds on the photos, you can see the flash on video recording its not as bright as the final picture flash power.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Markiddo:
True true, thank you so much guys.
[Motorola Droid X2] yondercomesthetrain:
Did froyo for the Droid X2 have an unlocked bootloader?
[Motorola Droid X2] jpp44345:
No

No. Droid X2 did not have an unlocked bootloader at any point.
[Motorola Droid X2] spr0k3t:
Still waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked. It's only a matter of time.
[Motorola Droid X2] mjdavis871:
Im sure its been answered before...but what is the real advantage to an unlocked bootloader?
[Motorola Droid X2] m125:
With root we can only do higher level stuff, bootloader access has the arability to change core items within android. For example changing wifi to infrastructure mode instead of ADHOC, changing clock speeds, completely customized roms with kernel access, along with loads of other things.
[Motorola Droid X2] yondercomesthetrain:
Dang. I was thinking that if it did, we would have a much easier time just going back to froyo and making awesome ROMs with custom kernals and stuff. I came from the Fascinate, and we had all of that good stuff. I just miss it, that's all. Lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] m125:
Yeah, but soon, soon we will have a very nice bootstrap utility along with clockworkmod which will hopefully give us a little more developer attention. Until then just enjoy our nice stable android experience we have=).
[Motorola Droid X2] yondercomesthetrain:
Very true. We do have some great developers right now even without custom kernels and whatnot. Its all very stable and easy to work with. I may even get into developing soon. It seems pretty... kinda... not really easy. But i would love to learn if nitro or someone wants to give me some pointers.
[Motorola Droid X2] m125:
Learn java and let me tell you its not easy Haha, i'm currently plugging away at c++ and c# and its not easy:)
[HTC Sensation] jyabor91:
Hi can somebody port over the cool rotation animation

from the sense. 3.5 rcmix rom onto cm7 rom
[HTC Sensation] joshndroid:
download the rom.. taker the bootanimation.zip out then put it in CM7 done..
[HTC Sensation] lost2431:
Where can I find the bootanimation.zip in the rcmix sense 3.5 rom? In CM7, I know it's in /system/media
[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
Did you even read the post?

This is not a bootanimation...

To the OP:

The animation is likely embedded in the frameworks..something which would take a bit to port.