[Atrix 4G General] WhatOk:
Rooting Service !

This entire conversation is pointless.

1) They are selling a service. They are NOT reselling somebody's ROM. This

is a key distinction, that otherwise very smart people on this forum are

missing. Linux consultants who install your OS are not charging for the OS -

that's open source and free. They are charging for their expertise in

installing it right, the first time. That is what they are charging for.

Please understand this. If you don't understand this point, then you don't

understand the entire concept of open-source software, including Android.

2) People who pay for the service ($99.99 including return shipping)

obviously don't want to do it themselves for whatever reason. Not everybody

has the tools (some people only have Apple computers), nor the skills, nor

the patience. No point in arguing how easy it is, or how long it takes, blah

blah blah. Everybody has the tools to wash their car, and yet there are tons

of carwashes on every corner. We can go on and on about the differences, but

bottom line - not everybody wants to learn to root their phone. Just accept

it, and stop calling those people stupid and lazy.

3) As nice as XDA developer - members are (and this particular thread

doesn't shine the best light on them), no one here is willing to guarantee

their work, as evidenced by the TONS of disclaimers that "You flash at your

own risk". Even kind people who volunteer their lunch periods to help others

will find themselves in a pickle, if for WHATEVER reason, the phone they are

working on bricks. Just accept it - that's the fact -- nobody is willing to

guarantee that if anything goes wrong, the end-user will get a brand new

phone. This company guarantees their work.

4) After upgrade support. This company accepts support requests for 1 full

year after the upgrade is done. If the end user screws up their phone at

all, or if they need to return it to stock, or if they accept an OTA update

which ruins the root, or if they just are confused - they can send it back

to them at no charge, and have it upgraded and rooted to the latest

available versions. Not sure anybody here wants that headache after they

have done their friend a "favor" by rooting their phone.

5) Regarding credits - I heard them mention and praise the following

software: Alien Rom, Cyanogen Mod, Clockwork Mod Recovery, Rom Manager,

Titanium Backup, XDA-Developers. A far cry from the accusation that they

give "NO" credit - as if they were somehow claiming that they wrote Alien

Rom, and they wrote Cyanogen Mod. Ha Ha Ha.

Bottom line - most people who are active participants in XDA-Developers

won't be sending their phones in. However, for many of us who know and like

to read about what's going on, but don't have the time or tools necessary to

participate, this service makes sense. I've personally had them update 2 of

my phones, and this has enabled me to participate in this forum, by

downloading new roms, and using software requiring root access. I never

would even be here if they didn't offer this service.

To call them scumbags, assholes, etc is just plain nasty, and shows more

about you then them. On the video, I believe they refer to you as "the good

folks at XDA" - let's just keep this friendly.