yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
I don't think you will gain from that. I used 256 before and it was never full. Waste of space if you ask me.

@all

Guys, i did another guide on how to begin when coming from WinMo. I hope it will sort out the newbies here :p

Took me ages to get it structured and linked up with the most relevant stuff but i think i managed to keep it fairly easy. In case anyone is interested: the Link is in the FAQ under "how do i install the ROM" and in the Main Doc under point 1.

It is not finished yet as it does not yet contain secondary information that is not immediately needed.

As usual: if anyone finds stuff worth a correction i will gladly take it. If anyone wants to help out with making it easier to understand i am also happily taking suggestions. After all, i want it to be a doc for beginners.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] abofihmi:
2.5 the best so far

Hello,

I have been using Version 2.5 for a while ant it is working perfect, I decided to be my final ROM, when 3.4 introduced with much better audio quality, I switched to it, I did not have much of luck, but when I heard 3.5 is coming soon to fix some issues I wait until 3.5 released, I tried it, nob, very similar to 3.4, a lot of FC and too many crashing (It hangs in phone call, maps, GPS, BT, web, dictionary...) the speaker phone to noisy, the second party cannot here, too much noise. However the media sound quality has dramatically improved.

Issue still exists from 2.4 till 3.5:

1.The panel view of the Scene is displayed as gray block, same applied for the wall paper

2.The hardware end key does not end the call, but turn the screen off.

3.3.4 is far more stable then 3.4, 3.5

I always do clean installation after wiping all data as recommended in the first few posts.

I install back 2.5 and I am very happy again,

Thank you very much for this great ROM.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] r_i_x:
so far v3.5 runs smooth for me...

but the USB tethering and wifi hotspot still not working.

...so I downloaded back barnacle wifi tether.

:p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
You have big issues with your sd card or nand! and the other issues you need to read more to find out your answers!

That is got nothing to do with the rom it i the kernel and there is only one kernel version that will fix it but it has very high battery drain!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] r_i_x:
i see...

thanks for the info Dan, and thanks for the nice rom once again.

:)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pandamaci:
Dan ... I know that you don't like to read such things, but I had to revert back to 3.4 stock from 3.5 stock, too.

I have tried 3.5 with zram, and then with swap, but the outcome was the same: 3.5 was laggier, slower FOR ME.

Back to 3.4, everything is back normal, everything is smooth and works great.

What I see from the replies is that v3.5 splits your followers in 2 categories: for some it works like a charm, but for others it is laggy, sluggish.

I understand what you say, that it is not ROM related and they all have SD and/or NAND issues ... but, still ... it is really odd that there weren't such issues with 3.4.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
Mate i have already posted v3.4 had more mods for users using sd ext and v3.5 was less sd ext mods but had more nand mods! So if you have a phone that cant handle the nand mods then that is why v3.4 was better for you! And its not really odd mate because i had changed some init.d mods in v3.5!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Kov3nant:
I don't want to be a spoil sport. I was actually very excited to find this Rom. I used energy sensation Rom before and it was cool but this one seemed to have more features. I flashed 4ext. Task29, full sd card format. New partition in ext4. Then the flashlight doesn't work. Flashed the fix. Phone didn't boot anymore. Reflashed the Rom. Slow, laggy. Wake up lag. App drawer scroll lag, camcorder lags BAD. I would definitely try the next version that comes out. But until then, I think I'm going back to cm7. I'm a flashaholic anyways.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
One thing you forgot to mention was,You dont read and never mentioned what rom version
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pandamaci:
I am sorry, I have missed that post. My last info was that there aren't any changes that might make the ROM behave like that.

Also please don't missunderstand me, I like v3.4 very much. I am considering to make it my final one.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
Thats cool mate it just annoys me that even though some of the guys have read the posts they still dont get it and say they flashed v3.4 and it had lag v3.5 is better and vice verse if they can work it out they would realize the rom aint the issue its there phones so no point posting they had lag they just have to work out what version suits there phone the best!

You dont have any issues with v3.4 but other guys do!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Kov3nant:
It was version 3.5. Don't get your feelings hurt. It just doesn't work for me. And rather than just stop using it, I wanted to let you know why. I respect developers and chefs too. Without all you guys, my hd2 would be a crappy winmo phone.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Don't diss that good old WinMo - it's always been a true workhorse and with sense even quite pretty! Pity it got neglected in the past years! :-P

One positive report dan to cheer you up a little: had 3.4 running until my phone got raped and it was good with none but the known issues and I have 3.5 themed now with none but the known issues.

It's a different phone and newer generation (brighter display, different digitizer) but still hynix nand. After some days of uptime without re- flash it seems to adapt to my usage better and better. It runs really well now but started off a little lagged.

Time to re- flash :-)

[EDIT]

Forgot to mention: after all this madness I encountered when reading about bad blocks and how they make the phone play up I am more and more convinced that the built in compensation works really good as I don't happen to have any negative side effects from the bad blocks on my chip...

Sent from my TBD Runny 3.5 themed
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jabi_james:
i'm still wating.. help me plz
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
No need to write in Bold Text, this won't make an answer appear any faster. Dan reads everything here. I read everything here. I am sure Dunc001 does too. Some other people i know for sure read everything too.

If noone answered yet this is because we guys have lives too and we haven't had much time yet. And also, some of your questions are answered on the previous posts.

1. A2SD in title refers to: App to SD being in the ROM already and apps are moved to SD-EXT automatically. There is NO need to do that yourself. Neither do you move them by means of the inbuild app manager function (move to SD) nor do you want to install any third-party app. Reasoning: the built-in function moves Apps to the FAT partition which isn't as ideal. A third-party App would destroy the inbuild A2SD (which has no interface by the way).

2. Swap versus zRAM was a big discussion since release of 3.5 which was on page 978 i think. Dan decided to go for Swap next release and already offered some method to enable swap for 3.5 as that (apparently) is better then zRAM.

Deducing your Answer from this discussion is not hard: yes, Swap is recommended as the ROM is hungry for RAM. You may read from page 978 onwards to find the SWAP enable /zRAM disable zip you can flash after installation. Be sure to repartition your Card with a Swap partition. 128 mb should suffice.

3. More information on Linux SWAP is, like with all technical information, ideally found using google. this goes like that: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+swap

then you would find some results from which you might want to choose this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq as a very general overview.

If you are not satisfied, you would then tell google to search with more specific terms, a.k.a refine your search, like: "swap android" or "swap android zram recommendations" or whatever you deem intelligent search terms.

[EDIT]

Removed my last nasty comment as it probably wasn't helpful. Sorry to those who read it already. Probably lost my temper.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] stonesolouk:
Simply love 3.5 Stock. Speedy, excellent battery life, loud calls and playback volumes, no sense reboots! What else can I say? Thanks Dan and TBD!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zulwik:
Hi :)

I have a problem with my custom ringtones on TBD 3.4 custom rom.

I create folders on sdcard media\audio\ringtones and trying set mp3 but not working, but when i use *.ogg music file i can use it.... hmmm TBD recognizes the ogg only as ringtone ??
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
I haved used this structure for storing personal Mp3 ringtones and notification sounds on my SD card through all Android ROMs I have used, included TBD from version 3.1 up to version 3.5 (stock version). No problems at all. Is your SD card formatted through Recovery? Is it a good quality card? Reboot after copy of files to card?

PS: Try to insert your card into your computer and try to play the sounds stored on the card.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Hi Zulwik,

actually no. It is supposed to recognize mp3 as well. I just checked on my Themed 3.5 Installation and it eats all 323 mp3 files i put in that folder. It must be something with your ROM, SD Card or your files.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zulwik:
Thanks

My card : 16GB kingston class 4 now 1GB ext4 and fat32 the rest of the place.

:) i try update my rom 3.4 > 3.5 and repartition my sd card, :)

cheers

I's Miracle xD

I don't know what happened but my mp3 working now ;)

Thanks for help :) custom mp3 is visible on ringtone list.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Probably just your sd-card being a little bit incompatible with the phone. Problems with read/write operations. Dan has pointed out that there are issues for some people's cards.

I'm still trying to figure out what the master has done here :D as the whole memory access technology interests me more and more. Think there's a lot of potential there but also a lot of possible problems...

Sent from my TBD Runny 3.5 themed
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
I know you are really busy Dansta and it shows in your builds (awsome)

Please could I push you for the V3.5 change log, or anyone who knows :D

Thanks,

Alex
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Kameirus:
how about reading the first post carefully
[HD2 Android NAND Development] El Che:
what size does the sd card partition has to be ?

i cant find any proper installation guide to install this rom in the op. what to do after doing the following ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vitamindy:
Lockscreen woes

Recently, my htc hd2 had a sudden restart and this caused several settings to return to default and it also caused the lockscreen to not display any of the typical things the sense lockscreen does such as the 4 shortcuts and any of the widgets such as weather, clock etc. I've searched through the thread and i understand that this has been an issue before and I have tried several of the suggested solutions such as making sure that the RCMix tweaks is set to sense lockscreen and leaving the screen on, waiting for an hour. Does anyone know if there is a concrete fix for this?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] r_i_x:
i think you can follow this on the old version post.

EU with 1024mb Ext4 Partition (the SD-Ext being mandatory!)

Tmobile with 1024mb Ext4 for a2sd & Dalvik Cache (the SD-Ext being optional!)

...mine is:

EU w/ 2048mb ext4 and 128mb swap (coz i use swap)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] shaedz:
Is it possible to load TBD v3.2 completely on a T-mobile hd2 nand without an ext4?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
Well your still not stating what version v3.5 stock or themed! And if you had done some reading then you may have found your issue!

I have never read anyone with the same exact issue as you! Have you over clocked ?

yes just do not create a ext on your sd card!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] captainhase:
I found out that for some reason my hd2 and my wife's wildfire need some time to find the mp3 files in that folders and they are shown as the mp3 title and not as the file name. That's why I had trouble with that too some time ago...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vitamindy:
I have overclocked to 1.13ghz. Right now the only issue is the lock screen. It has happened twice on two separate installs. I think I'll just format and install the rom again then restore my data. If it occurs again will a logcat help?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Before you do any of that, I would suggest you stop overclocking and see if this resolves the issue. It isn't the ROM. ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] WheNDeviL:
Hello everyone, i'm back after a few weeks off the grid :P

I see Dan has come out with the new v3.5, but before i install and to avoid reading the last 400 posts since he posted it, i have a quick question..

Any fix or something like that to be installed too? On the OP i only see fixes for the themed version, so i assume v3.5 is working fine just as it is, right?

Thank you very much for your answers and thank you Dansta for still believing in our beloved HD2 :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aeropilot:
There is only an update to turn off zram, and enable swap. Otherwise 3.5 stock is updated from the start.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Hi!

Thank you for reading the OP! :D

Erm.. *cough* to be quite honest i am doing the OP and i am not really sure if the fixes are for the themed version alone. This is because i had an "incident" with my phone while all this was happening so i didn't follow the thread with full attention and i tried to re-read the full thread since release but didn't have the time so i just put together the OP from my memory. Which is not good. Not good at all. So, your question is a good one... i was going to ask the same but forgot. Maybe i need to adjust the OP...

Dan, or anyone who remembers: Worldclock is only a prob on the themed, but what about libsqlite and the torch? i think them where only themed too but not sure anymore?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dunc001:
Only issues on the themed ROM, not stock AFAIK
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vitamindy:
I have. I tried all the solutions I found before posting. From reinstalling the weather apps, reinstalling the lockscreen, changing the kind of lockscreen and back, changing the kernel, switching from zram to swap and back and none of it resolve the issue. Right now i'm running a fresh install. I'm thinking the overclock is what caused the restarts but it doesnt explain why all my settings defaulted and my lockscreen went the way it did.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] WheNDeviL:
Thanks for the quick answers, looks like stock ROM is ready to go as it is :D

Will try to install in the next few hours then, thank you all :)

Anyhow, i'll keep track of the thread from here, so if you remember anything i'll read it, and if i find issues, i will report them :P

EDIT:

Any reason to do it or its just about personal preference?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Well by the sounds of it you have been doing a lot of changes AFTER the Lockscreen issue. Did you do as much playing around BEFORE as well?

I remember having had issues like that in the past. I never got through to the real causes but usually reinstalling the ROM and leaving it alone fixed it. Especially the Lockscreen - apparently its stability and working is influenced by how long you leave the phone to settle in after install. Might just be a rumour but make sure you let it have its 10 minutes after install. Just don't touch it.

On another note, you might also consider Dansta's comments on the NAND and SD tweaks he has done on 3.4 and 3.5. You might've gotten some piece of picky hardware that makes it incompatible with those tweaks. i mean, resetting to default and the lockscreen coming up only partly sounds like its got massive probs with reading from the SD card. Freezes can be caused by that too... just a thought...

---------- Post added at 02:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:33 PM ----------

Yes. According to Dan's findings the zRAM hinders the speed of the ROM more than the Swap does. So he decided to go the Swap Way with the next release and offer a zip to change from zRAM onto swap.

But this, my friend, has been covered on the last few pages. You could at least read them, don't get to cocky now :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] WheNDeviL:
LOL Sneakyghost, that was not my intention :P

I asked because if it is necessary i will go and find it, if not i would just skip it :P eheh
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vitamindy:
Nothing unusual considering. I just overclocked to 1.3 then changed the boot and down animations through rcmix tweaks. I formatted my sd card through adb and i've never really had a problem with it. Its a 16gb SanDisk class 4 card. I'll take what you advised to heart. Thanks for the help.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] WheNDeviL:
Ok, found it here (if im not wrong)

So after installing the right Recovery, with 128 swap (as usual), install the ROM, before first boot i install this "Enable swap and remove zram"? or is it in any other way?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aeropilot:
I'm pretty sure you should wait until after first boot.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] WheNDeviL:
Ok m8, thank you :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
If all users acted like this we would have a thread half as huge. Thanks for finding this link, spares me some searching. Was gonna look for it actually but not anymore :D

Might be puttin it up on the OP but gotta check with Dan before. Off to work now cyas all laterz...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] imagin112:
Hey Dan

Meybe in next uptade you use new baseband ?

Wysłane z mojego HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e za pomocą Tapatalk
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dunc001:
Why? There's no improvement on this base. Later ruu's are just regional/carrier specific with no significant changes.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Kameirus:
lol was just gonna say that
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
Dansta my "United kingdom" location issues have sorted themselves, all working at moment, brilliant build!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] masty86:
ok i got a 16gb card class 10 i installed v3.5, and it's working flawless, fast, and smooth. before i used to have 8gb class 4 laggs alot
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DeeinSouthAfrica:
I have now got the changing ringtone issue mentioned a while back.

Every time I switch off and restart the phone it is 'pot-luck' as to what ringtone will wake me up.

This morning it seemed like two guys softly beating on pieces of metal.

Luckily I am a light sleeper. :p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
yeah i bet u gotta be a light sleeper with all those lions sneaking about down there at the very bottom of africa...

those ringtone issues and other settings issues not sticking where haunting me quite badly with earlier ROM versions but i think at least from 2.7 onwards, maybe even from 2.6 they began to disappear, some random probs came back once in a while but by now i am rather sure its been some tweaks and the SD Card. Thanks to my wife, i am now forced to use that Samsung MPAGA card which i didnt really like but it seems to do the phone good as it doesn't seem to show any of those nasty little issues anymore.

Long story short: i suspect the SD card to be at fault (a.k.a not working with some tweaks/settings) and would advise to reflash or at least rebuild caches and see if it helps, otherwise try a different card and see if my theory is right (not the one about the lions!).
[HD2 Android NAND Development] karaern:
on the other hand, my personal experience tells me that problems with speeds are related with sd card brand/type, but other problems especially these once that are related with sudden slow down, not ringing, acting wierd and make you mad to throw away the phone are definitely caused only by the lack of memory, means SWAP. zram never worked good as it should be and never works with applications IGO, google earth and etc. Everything must be reflashed, but this time with swap enabled.

personally i wait the new release, a bit lazy to do all this reinstall staff.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dunc001:
Never had a problem with zram and any of the apps you mention - I use iGO daily.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
I am using zRAM and IGO, Sygic, Navigon and google Navigation work perfecto. Only Navigon started to play up after chaning my phone as the license is tied to the IMEI. Still need to sort that out.

IGO runs smoothest and with not one single error since month, sygic not as smooth, but also very few errors (losing sattelites, hang, freeze), hardly ever.

Navigon, although best ergonomy while driving, has had its fair share of problems. It wasn't built for GB Android as i hear and so it doesn't work good.

This is all on zRAM. I never used Swap on the new build but did during the 2.x versions a few times and i didn't like it because when the system swaps pages the phone lags. But apparently Dan thinks its better than zRAM and will have it in the new ROM again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tigra72:
Hi,

I am using stock 3.5 and implemented also swap afterwards.

Just want to compare the quadrant benchmark:

Here you can see that swap is really used:

Would be nice if you can provide me your quadrant score mentioning swap/zram.

Thx
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
I hear cracking in my speaker does that mean that Sony Xloud is on or my speaker is ready to go to a better place. I use 3.5 stock ROM. I think Xloud is off by default in this ROM - that is not supposed to be implemented in ROM.

EDIT:

swap total 522184 used: 1560 free: 520624

new quadrant: 1055 CPU: 2153 Mem: 1128 I/O: 1169 2D333 3D: 492

I have class 10 SDHC
[HD2 Android NAND Development] heatledger:
what version of quadrant is that? I cannot see those new devices in mine:confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
New one, updated from market. Version 2.0 build date: Feb. 13rd 2012
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
Man you must have a very very bad sd card or something i have never had a quadrant score that low on any rom! Are you running your quadrant 2 times to get the second score? cause only running it once will not be as high as the second run! i am getting up around 1600 without OC on my new test build and was getting 1500 on v3.5!

Xloud is on by default you can turn it off in the tweaks options!But i dont get what your on about with your last comment !
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
It is new Quadrant. It gives lover scores. With old one I had 1420 - 1460
[HD2 Android NAND Development] atzebauer:
My Device:

swap enabled

quadrant run 3x

new quadrant: 1061 CPU: 2190 Mem: 1151 I/O: 1118 2D: 333 3D: 515

I have class 2 card with 4GB
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dansta34:
Well that should finally prove to you guys that quadrant scores are a load of crap!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tigra72:
3 times !

I've class 4 and stock 3.5 EU version.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] karaern:
so swap is always used......

problem was not to give swap from partitioning.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
My mistake, sorry
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arsalan_qamar:
how much time does it take on first boot ? , First it was giving me error in /SDCARD/..... i changed the card now installation is complete but the screen T3D roms is stuck for last 5 minutes ..... any ideas how long i have to wait ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
New quadrant: 1041 CPU: 2182 Mem: 1146 I/O: 1041 2D: 333 3D: 502

Phone spec, see my signature. Using swap. Stock 3.5.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] legolas93:
Good Job..I've been using the Themed versione 3.5 for two days and all is great :D

I only have a problem in SMS app in wich the text of the conversation is a bit shifted from the colored text field. Do you understand me? :D

Good Job!