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[Acer Iconia A500] phoenixbennu:
The AYL is supposed to be fine tipped like the bamboo (although bamboo is smaller I believe), and the AYL has the same reviews as being spongy.

I dont mind a big tip, but I dont like it caving in just to put enough pressure on the screen to write, like the bamboo did.

I used to use a boxwave and it was ok, and had two of them, until my kids ripped the tips off both of tthem.
[Acer Iconia A500] UnicornKaz:
I also owns the DAGI P504 & P601 ... they works OK... not great but OK... maybe due to the fact that I have the Skinomi protector on... ( those scratch proof protector that takes water application....rubbery feels...etc

I also have this on pre-order and it's on its way... seem to be the same concept but less stress on the tip because it's ballpoint instead of spring ;)

http://www.adonit.net/

They are also looking into sending out a different tip that works for those of us that have the rubbery protector ( Skinomi, Zagg, StealthGuard...etc )

get yourself a pre-order :p
[Acer Iconia A500] phoenixbennu:
Looks like what I want in a stylus. Really just more about the precision than anything else, and this looks good. Just wish it wasnt 'preorder' lol.
[Acer Iconia A500] Z_Black:
Could check out the Ostylus www.ostylus.com I don't have any personal experience with it, but have been tempted to order it. It *looks* fairly precise, and appears to have the line appear in the center circle which is very nice. But not 100% of the time it seems with the review. Definitely more expensive than most as well, but may be worth it.

Here's a review from Engadget on it.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/01/ostylus-capacitive-pen-review/
[Acer Iconia A500] christianpeso:
Just picked up the Wacom Bamboo stylus today for my A500. Not disappointed, but not as happy as I planned on being. Everything the OP stated is true regarding the amount of pressure needed for it to register on the screen.

Also, with no palm recognition on the tablet, it makes stylus writing/drawing rather useless.

I'm still going to keep it just in case. For .pdf annotations and signatures. Got it half off anyway.
[Acer Iconia A500] phoenixbennu:
So here is an update. The AYL stylus came last week, I believe. I wanted to give the wife and myself time to test it out before commenting on it.

The tip seems smaller than the bamboo, but I dont have the bamboo anymore so cannot do a side by side comparison, and the AYL doesnt exactly give specific steps. I could whip out a ruler....if I had one.

Overall though, it seems to be one of the finest tipped and bodies styli that I have used.

The drawback is that it still requires pressure to make it responsive. I know most people might be thinking "Of course it does", but I have used styli that were responsive just from the touch on the screen. The AYL, just like the bamboo, seems to have the tip formed in such a way that it not only required a little more push to be sensitive, but the tip seems to be more willing to cave in. I am thinking it may just be because they are smaller tips that most other styli and therefore it is more of a significant impact to using them to feel them cave in then other stylus.

My wife has used every other styli with me, bamboo and dagi, and she had the same opinion of them I did. However, the AYL seems to have grabbed her liking. She has been using it quite a bit for drawing and a variety of other things. Even my kids (2 1/2 and 1 1/2) seem to enjoy it. Mainly my older son. Havent quite caught my younger boy messing around with it yet lol.

Overall build quality is about average, tip is probably one of the better ones.

Build Quality 6/10

Expected longevity 6/10

Accuracy 7/10

Comfort of using 7/10

Responsiveness 7/10
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CFet:
Greetings,

Wondering what the SD Card Capacity is of a rooted Xoom?

Cheers!

Chris
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickdroid86:
I want to root and overclock my ns4g but I don't want a ROM is this possible? I'm running 2.3.5 and I just came from a epic 4g, what is the safest kernel and speed? Thank you.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SA-07:
What do you mean you don't want a ROM? :eek:

You are running a stock ROM lol. However, you can continue to run it and flash kernels without using a custom ROM
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
Root the phone. Install a custom kernel. Done.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NYYFan325:
You'll also need set cpu as well
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SA-07:
Terse.

Hehe
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tailsthecat3:
you dont need setcpu to run some kernels on stock rooted
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickdroid86:
Yeah I meant non custom, ok just wanted to make sure because on my old epic you had to be careful about what kernel you used some for ext4 and some rfs, anyone recommend a fast kernel for a stock ROM?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tailsthecat3:
Check my sig for the oc kernel i run. stock, oc@1.2ghz, slight undervolt.

Matrix

Trinity
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NYYFan325:
I meant if he wanted to change any settings, should have specified
[Windows 8 General] master.peterm:
lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....

and yea Ive done the "hack" to bring back the old start menu, but if you do that the metro UI kinda trips out plus thats the whole point of using windows 8 versus windows 7...

... worst thing was I deleted my Ubuntu partition to use it, but in a couple of days I think I'm gonna get the Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and delete windows 8
[Windows 8 General] venkat_5.uni:
I totally agree..because what we expect from a PC is ease of access not the other way around...especially from keyboard and mouse they want us to use tiles

feels kinda stupid..the wrost case is search if I want to access a program is that really necessary for me to know which category it will falls in...its easy sometimes but not in the case of normal users....if MS really doesn't want to face the vista situation...they need to really think about the PC version of Win8....one more thing I want yo point out is that OS is really good for touchscreen capable devices but not for analog device operation....this is my opinion for the current developer built and not for win8 as a whole...
[Windows 8 General] BOOTMGR:
dats true tablet layout on PC is weird.

But win 8's performance is awesome.
[Windows 8 General] txdeathray:
maybe i'm just weird like that, but i kinda like the metro ui on my laptop/desktop setup. even though i don't have a touch-enabled screen, it didn't take me long to get used to using metro and make it work the way i like.
[Windows 8 General] j3.cole:
The live tiles and simplicity of it all are very nice, and dual booting Kubuntu was simple, I'm quite sure triple booting (Win7) would be a piece of cake as well. The desk top with the split screen is awesome! And a desktop is a desk top I don 't see the big deal here... Oh, this is a pre beta, I almost forgot. So let's see, New features, choices, smaller footprint, options, OH and Upgrade!?!? Can we try and see the cool part of it?
[Windows 8 General] exploitation:
Waste of large application widget grids...
[Windows 8 General] digger1985:
It's a dev preview. It's not even a beta. Anything can and will change. Don't base your opinions of W8 on this.
[Windows 8 General] xboxfanj:
Damn. How do u get 500MB download speed? Why apple?
[Windows 8 General] jhughesy:
You are not forces to use Metro. The Classic desktop will be there too. :confused:
[Windows 8 General] Gazerino:
Will they be implementing Kinect to use with the new dashboard for those who dont have a touchscreen?
[Windows 8 General] Arowan:
i love the boot's time of win8 :D
[Windows 8 General] mikeeam:
I love everything about it. Smooth, fast, easy to use. Even Metro UI that will be lot better when we have apps for it. And sync! Seriously, Windows 8 is fine.

I didnt have any BSOD until now. Just some freezes in my Mac Mini (but my Dell is perfect), and I can blame Apple for that.

For those who hate Metro UI.. Stop complaining a little. You can use the default desktop as your main, and Metro UI just as a launcher of apps/programs. Whining wont make MS remove it. This is the future. If you think you'd do better, then try to be Microsoft's CEO.
[Windows 8 General] br3nd064:
I have to agree. I've been through the dev preview and I very much like the layout.. for a tablet. On a desktop however, it just seems wrong.
[Windows 8 General] DaXmax:
Becuz they just cheated u by just hibernating..
[Windows 8 General] mariu$:
yes it does

this is not a revolution, its a start over from the first day of pc's

what a disgrace

how long ago did a dialog box have a simple solid color? along with the buttons?
[Windows 8 General] vbetts:
Aside from Windows Mobile and Pocket PC, Microsoft has always kind of had horizontal interfaces(Windows Media Center, Live, Xbox 360, etc etc). But just to note, this preview isn't anything final or was made to be ran as a daily OS. The Metro UI is made for tablets, it most likely won't be incorporated in final desktop builds or if it is, it'll be more adjusted to the desktop environment. All this Preview was made to do, was introduce Metro UI and the tools to create apps to work with the Metro UI. Even though it's still heavily based on NT 6.1, so far Windows 8 uses less resources than what Windows 7 did in both beta and final builds thanks to some kernel differences as well as filesystem changes.

Looking at the past as well, the Windows 7 beta used more resources than Windows 7 final. Windows Vista used more resources than both. Windows XP was built in a different manor, so not really counting XP in this. So far, Windows Developer preview is using less resources than Windows 7 7601. If history repeats itself, Windows 8 final will use less resources than the betas, developer preview, and 7. And if rumors of registry being cut out in windows 8 final and apps that need the registry is being taken care of by Hyper-V support, then to me that makes Windows 8 x100 times better than previous Windows systems.
[Windows 8 General] amromun:
as far as I am concerned Windows 8 is just UI update for tablets or other devices that have touch screens and shouldn't be called windows 8 it should be windows 7.1 !
[Windows 8 General] tejaaus:
Check your machine configuration!!
[Windows 8 General] infrared_guy:
Starting to like this

I have used every version of windows since 2.5 on 5.25 floppy disk's. It took alot of getting used to not having the start menu that we have been used to since 1995. But with that said once you start getting the navigation down pat it is alot faster at finding and running programs. Wait i have to be politically correct here APPS LOL. I boot up which is amazing and click the Firefox app and Bam i am on the internet kinda digging it. The only thing that i have an issue with is None of the preinstalled apps work trust me im on a dell xps15 and my screen resolution is good enough. gonna try a reinstall with a fresh wipe to see if that clears it up. other than that i'm happy.
[Windows 8 General] domineus:
yes they will incorporate it in final pcs...

however I actually have enjoyed metro ui and it actually functions pretty darn well on a desktop pc

There are some things I hope will be changed (mouse simulating touch input for instance which can alleviate a lot of transition issues) but otherwise I have a really good experience of it
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
Lol, how backward, now imagine a tablet remote with a LCD panel used for flicking back an forth. What can windows phone do that windows mobile can't? Efficiently combine all tasks needed day to day on a phone out of the box and wrap that in a quick slick UI. I'm not saying WP is better than wm, its not in many ways, but th two are very different beasts aimed at different consumers, wm is a great pocket PC, an I miss that, but WP is a great phone. They are not the same, its like comparing UNIX with windows, different beasts for different markets

My only wish is that they continued wm for business use
[Windows 8 General] Lum_Os:
However I do say I look forward to see DJ:ing in the future when everybody uses tablet pcs.....would look so cool :D I know it has already been done but the touchscreen equipment is extremely expensive. Imagine DJ:s using touch screen instead of mixers would make things so much easier :D That's kind of the only use I can find of touchscreen Windows tablets. It would suck for most games I think, and would generally just be horrible to use.

I think Windows 8 might end up like webOS in the longer run. Just sayin'. If they don't keep developing the interface and make it alot more user friendly than it is now and really think things through, because they have just thought about what would look cool, and what features would be cool, not what features would be important and what the everyday person would spend their time using.
[Windows 8 General] Award Tour:
What design education and experience do you have?
[Windows 8 General] kainppc6700:
Windows Mobile 6 actually had that too. I could even multitask and run all the programs I wanted, plus HTC's Manila launcher on the Today screen gave it that slick UI that we'd always wanted. To me, it was just very straightforward and always made good use of its screen real estate and let you do a lot without a lot of toilet paper scrolling or nonsense. I could see a lot of information all at once.

Like you said, they were obviously aimed at opposite markets, but it was another poor microsoft decision that they made on a whim because they wanted some of Apple's market. I saw this great writeup on it on a blog from back in 2010 (the site also has some excellent writings about Windows 8):

roughlydrafted.com/2010/03/26/windows-phone-7-microsofts-third-failed-attempt-to-be-apple/

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[Windows 8 General] Award Tour:
I was a big proponent of WM back in the day. Still have memories of running my first business on mobile excel in the middle of college classes. But having owned iOS, Android and WP7 phones, it was clear that they had to change and Mango+ is a definitive improvement. WP mango is every bit as good as ICS. MS just won't ever get the carrier or OEM love that Android has. They want a OS that they can brand and just about call their own.
[Windows 8 General] Boss2212:
Will get better with beta coming in February ....so excited!!!

Sent in 3D
[Windows 8 General] kainppc6700:
IceCreamSandwich Android must really suck then.

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[Windows 8 General] Award Tour:
I own both a iPhone 4S/ATT and a NS4G/Sprint running ICS. I favored iOS up until now. While the apps are still better on iOS, the base OS is pretty level and I have no clear preference. Both are good.

WP7 is as good as both. The arrive I have is decent but not amazing. Not sure what else compares? A dead WebOS or horrible BBOS?
[Windows 8 General] k1llaherz:
where do you get information about february beta?
[Windows 8 General] kainppc6700:
I don't buy apple, but after Microsoft's WM7 bs, I'd have to say that IOS outruns any Windows Mobile 7, as does BlackBerry and BADA. It looks cool, but it's just useless - I mean, what can you do with it?

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[Windows 8 General] Lum_Os:
Useless???? Exactly what functions are useless?

Only complaints I have for now is the bing search(since everyone uses google anyways....).

I think that WM7's interface is just like iOS if Windows would have made it only it's even more simplistic and straight to the point with it's interface.

It's basically same **** but different....Windows just has a different UI but it functions the same as iOS with the multitasking system and whatnot.

So I don't know what you're complaining over. Sure, they haven't really gone "big" yet with their phones, but give them a year or two and they'll be there if you are complaining over the shortage of apps etc....

So I don't get your point in this. It's like hardcore android fags saying "OOOH WE'RE BETTER THAN IOS BECAUSE WE HAVE FLASH" kind of thing(not saying that to offend anybody in a way...maybe it does but whatever) but you get the point right?
[Windows 8 General] filipst:
They took much more space than needed, and even if you set it to small icons it's still unusable. Instead of seeing clearly the open applications all you got was a highlighted icon. Not to mention the grouping of windows from the same application. Horrible, horrible idea. Instead of just a click to get to the window you want you have to click, search for it into a list and then click again. This is not productive in any way.

And what pissed me off the most was that they lie right to your face. There's actually a help topic in Windows 7 called "where's the quicklaunch toolbar" or some such. And that help topic says that the quicklaunch isn't included. Well, it actually is included, it's just hidden. The nerve of these people in pushing their retarded decisions on everybody is astounding.

Irrelevant, since anyone with eyes can see how horrible it looks. Here's your precious design. Even the colors are just as horrible.

http://www.transmissionzero.co.uk/common/images/dosbox-msdos-switch-disk.png

http://www.eightforums.com/attachme...-step11b.jpg?filter[2]=Installation and Setup

Innovative, imo.

But, if you really must know, I have a bachelor's degree in graphic design. And around 30 mobile games and apps designed.

Anyway, looks aside (since I can live just fine with a crappy look) it could be at least usable. Which is not. I hope at least it will be possible in the end to tweak it to be usable, even if most likely it will be a much bigger pain in the ass to tweak than Win7.

But who knows... did anyone check the latest Ubuntu with Unity? That's even worse. If even Linux distros go down this stupid path I don't have much hope.

PS. I can't stress this enough. "Apps" have no place on a desktop. On desktops we're supposed to have programs, not apps. Apps are absolutely pointless on a desktop. Who the hell needs a Facebook app or whatever on a desktop. Seriously. What is the point?
[Windows 8 General] RedRumy3:
Anyone try RC build that was leaked?
[Windows 8 General] Biotoxsin:
Are those images taken from a completed RC or are they pictures of a version that is using placeholder graphics?
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
Lol, some folk are adamant that the UI looks crap, that it's based on 1980s UI, I'm sorry mate but I can see perfectly well thanks and considering this is PRE BETA code its not bad at all. Some folk appear resistant to change, well that's your call, if your a big designer with 30 games under your belt(name some?) then I'd be questioning that level of thought, living in the past never gets you anywhere, as ms know with WM,
[Windows 8 General] Award Tour:
A BS in GD with a few apps in your belt? That's all? I won't get too personal but that doesn't say anything by my standards.

That said, I can pull horrible UI screen shots from every OS. The funny thing about that shot you showed is that it's part of the install which has always been traditionally funky looking due to not being fully installed. So, yeah, horrible and irrelevant example. Nothing like trolling.

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Neither, it's from the Windows 8 beta install/setup process.
[Windows 8 General] cfj521:
e...thanks, give me some help.
[Windows 8 General] negechex:
i dont know if the metro will be working for the normal user if they dotn have a touch screen but we will see how microsoft try to sell it when they lanch the W8.
[Windows 8 General] kainppc6700:
MICROSOFT EPIC FAILURE OF THE CENTURY Reply

There's just not a lot of control over the clunky controls. I just can't even think of anything good to say about it, it's just so phenomenally bad. It wants to hang out with the smart platforms and casual smart platforms, but it really just embarrasses everyone else.

At least AppleOS plays the game the right way and doesn't screw customers over just to clumsily latch onto another different market.

I tried a lot of the W7 betas and "R C"s, but I don't even want to try "Windows 0.8" - it's just downright depressing.

You don't need to create videogames to be able to see that it looks like crap :p.

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[Windows 8 General] androidcues:
i guess it woould "suck" if you were born on a touchscreen. but for me coming from msdos i gotta say i cant imagine using a touchscreen with this. i am entirely gleeful and in love with windows 8 using a mouse. SO FREAKING easy and your next move is only a tap away... it blows win7 out of the water its black and white plain and simple.

sure..its made for touchscreen but it flies like a motherfocker with keyboard or mouse.
[Windows 8 General] Vadrieldur:
You're totally right.. after i saw the first previews of the Win8 i decided to return to the Win 98.. lol
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
Finally a voice of reason!
[Windows 8 General] kainppc6700:
WM7 AND W8 FAIL Reply

Yeah, it is easily mistaken for Windows 98

Says the person who thinks Windows Mobile 7 is a smartphone...

But, I digress...

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[Windows 8 General] link68759:
It's windows PHONE 7, not windows mobile 7. If you're trying to play Mr. know-it-all and look down on other people, best get your facts right first.

Let's try to steer this thread to a more civilized discussion, eh? Windows Phone 7 is classified as a smartphone, that's not going to change just because you don't like it. Enough of this petty tit for tat.
[Windows 8 General] `Joc:
I think too .. though i haven't seen it yet ..
[Windows 8 General] circleofomega:
I somewhere agree with you and also disagree...i had a HD7 when it launched, uses it for a year and got tired of it...no wallpaper, so access to system files...phew...in the end i almost wondered do i really owe this device or not...anyways, but the OS per say isn't bad...its snappy, fast and v v responsive...i will agree iOS is slightly better, but i hate Apple as I think they every product is a daylight robbery...IMHO. Am on RaZr now and I am happy...

And since you mentioned BB OS, here is something to laugh on while we all see it die a slow death, the shortest joke in the world - Blackberry Smartphone... ;)

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Windows 8 General] dazza9075:
I don't think you know what your talking about.

Also, I'm very careful about what I

Call Windows PHONE 7 ( windows mobile 7 existed but was scraped) I don't compare it to Windows mobile because they are different beasts, WM was (is) a pocket pc, WP is a phone,

With your general lack of understanding and your trolling attitude I suspect you've never used WP, or wm for that matter, your fairly young an your first phone was an android. At least try an be constructive with your posts, no ones telling you to agree one way or another, but if your not able to construct a rational INFORMED debate then you should not return here