yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
One thing I've noticed is that when I'm on wifi my mobile data will turn off after an hour. But when I turn wifi off my mobile data automatically turns on.

OwenHD2 why don't you flash v3.6?? This version has been great to me with very minor probs here and there. I've never tried v3.7 but I have no need to.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Same story for 3.6 and 3.7. No matter what ROM. For some there always was probs with Data/WiFi switching...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] davinci2007:
On the first page ist a Picture with a Benchmark Result 1707 Points.

But i using Quadrant Benchmark then i only habe 1100 Points.

Why? Daemon Controller is min 245 und max 1113600. :confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] OwenHD2:
awww mann but i like sense ROMs... :( oh well i guess i'll just wait it out and see if there will be a fix/update that will fix the problem :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zboq:
I tried dalvik mover from brush and it works great, but I would like to ask you guys what did You actually do to clear space in phone memory ?.

I owe a EU HD2 and to make it work I had remove almost all programs to gain required space. So I'm asking what else to do because now I can't actually install anything because it will take free space I have left.

It would be really nice to have TBD Rom and option to install required software according to my needs :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Did you make a SD-Ext?? Do you put our apps on your SD card??

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That Quadrant score is bogus. It's so inconsistent. I use Antutu and have found it to be more consistent and more thorough. I average a little over 2K per benchmark.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theimmortalone:
Sigh... Now my HD2 isn't recognized by MTTY. It just says Com 1 Com 2 Com 3. I disabled all USB connection, and I have Windows Vista. I'm so lost..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zboq:
Ok, maybe i didn't say it right. I've been using TBD 3.7 since the day it was released. I'm using standard EU install with 1GB SD-EXT. And yesterday i decided to test brush's dalvik mover but unfortunately size of Dalvik cache on my ext partition was way to big to put it in data in phone so i started to remove apps that i'm not using (facebook, twiter and other stuff i don't need) And after removing many apps I barely have space required by the app to move dalvik. Now I have 50MB free in data but if I make an update to flash player, isntall mx video player and make few other updates I will have less than 30MB in NAND and that is not good.

So I'm asking what else I can remove from NAND or maybe move to SD-EXT because as far as I know if I install something my space in NAND is shrinking along with SD-EXT.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
I have been running my phone with dalvik on NAND since Stephan developed DalvikMover. What I always do is remove all programs that are included on the ROM before flashing then install all of the programs I do use (I currently have 21 installed apps) and I have 26Mb of free memory which is sufficient for cache memory. My phone runs smoothly without any problems.

What I suggest you do is look in the Dalvik folder on the sd-ext and identify all the programs taking up most space then decide if you actually use them. If you don't then remove them using Titanium but be careful not to remove critical elements of Sense otherwise your phone won't work. Remember to remove any wallpapers etc that you don't use as well.

By the way, once you have updated any programs, always use the "Clean up the Dalvik Cache" option in Titanium to ensure that redundant apps are removed (these may be left after an update). ;)

EDIT: Make sure you do a full backup before removing programs just in case.

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Sneaky, you may be on to something there. What we need is for anyone having difficulties with data switching to test in a number of areas with different signal strengths. This could at least confirm or refute your suggestion. ;) Also would be handy knowing if they are on clk or magldr.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zboq:
You se that's why i sad about the "lite" version of TBD, without the programs that could be installed via google play or other way.

Btw, thx for the info about "Clean up the Dalvik Cache" option in Titanium and since it works only in pro version I just bought titanium on market :D. Actually it's my first app that i bought for my phone (I only use free apps :-P). This way i got 30MB more in NAND now.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] gecata:
Make Your Lite TBD rom :)

Look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1050283

If someone have a time to test and post results will be great!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Nedo Ukradan:
you will not believe me but with clk 1.5 after many reboots (turning off / on) I do not have any problems. I do not understand why people are fleeing from Clk option. I used MGLDR for long time too. Now I think MG is unnatural .

And, yes it is possible to solve my sound problem. Thanks God I'm not crazy.

I feel like a pig in Tehran there. Kids, kids, kids

I hope Dan and Mwakious will bury the hatchets
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Dan has said that he will release an aroma version of the ROM once he is better and has time. Best to wait until then. ;)

Zbog, glad you sorted out your phone. I'm sure you will see the benefit of having dalvik in NAND. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] davinci2007:
@Nedo Ukradan

I can switch between data and wifi after many reboots. I use clk 1.5.

Clk is better for me because I can battery recharge when the HD2 is off.

No Problems at the Moment. :rolleyes:

Why should I useing magldr?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Well, obviously one of the main benefits of clk is charging the phone when it is switched off (personally, my phone is never switched off as it would no longer be a phone lol).

However, for those having data problems then magldr supports RMNET data connections which are more stable and reliable than PPP (although many people report that it is much better now).

In conclusion, if you rely on data connections and are experiencing problems with clk, you may wish to try magldr to see if this resolves the problem. The choice, in the end, is yours as always. ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] davinci2007:
That's right. My HD2 is rarely off too.

Magldr is stabler but slowly. I only readed this. What do you have for mobile Internet Speed?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zboq:
Yes, I already noticed that. Now I just have to keep a closer look at free space in NAND.

Also glad to hear that Dan is going to do aroma version.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Don't worry too much about NAND free space unless you start having problems (memory too low). You should then consider moving Dalvik back to sd-ext using DalvikMover. ;)

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Well that depends entirely on where I am and what coverage is available. Never really had a problem or been frustrated with the speed so have had no need to even consider clk. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
I've never had a problem with data/wifi connections using MGLDR. I use various wifis around town and my connections always turn on automatically.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
That's my experience too. I'm moving across lots of wireless networks working with different customers, and I never had any problem with connect og switching between Wi-Fi and Mobile data (and Bluetooth). ROM stock 3.7 and Magldr.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dunc001:
Dan has many real world issues to deal with right now guys but he is still working hard on TBD. We spent last week working on the Aroma setup and making the ROM far more customizable during install (plus the option to reflash at any time to add/remove components without reflashing the whole ROM and losing data :D). You will be impressed! So please, bear with him. He will deliver as always :cool:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Always prepared to wait for Dan as he's never disappointed yet. Just hope he remembers his priorities are with life and not to rush. :D

EDIT: Glad to see that you are still helping, Duncan. Can only be a good thing for everyone that you haven't totally abandoned HD2 development. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] imagin112:
Great JOB !! THX !
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Quick question humans.

I want to get rid of my second SD-Ext. Im going to save all the contents of my SD card onto a computer. Then Im going to Erase my SD card via my phone under Storage/Erase SD Card. I heard that will clear all SD-Exts. Then while in 4Ext recovery Im going to create 1 SD-Ext and a partition. Then move all the contents back on my SD Card and restart. My question is will this harm the ROM if I do all this?? Thanks in advance
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Yes it will harm the ROM because you lose your sd-ext with all the important system parts.

Do this:

- do a full backup in recovery

- reboot system, now copy all contents from the FAT partition to your PC, including the cwm backup.

- now go back to recovery, go to partition SD card and repartition it as you want.

- now DO NOT reboot but goto toggle USB and connect as mass storage from within recovery.

- now copy all contents back to the fat.

- now don't reboot but go to backup and restore, do a full restore.

- when finished, reboot.

Done.

Sent from my multi talented HD2 ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] fromaron:
I am too on MAGLDR and don't have problems switching from Wi-Fi to Mobile Data and other way around.

The problem I experience is in the poor reception area the Mobile Data goes Off and then it takes long time to turn back On once the phone is in good reception area.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] smmoco:
I am on MALGDR too and also don't have problems with wifi connections. When the Mobile Data goes Off it also takes long time to turn back On in good reception area, but my wife has an HTC too with android from factory and has the same "problem", so I don't think we can consider it a problem of the rom.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Thank you. This is pretty simple and I know how to do this for the most part.

1. How do I copy copy from the FAT partition??

2. Lastly how do I copy back to the FAT partition?? I'm sure this is fairly simple but I just want to clarify for my sanity.

Thanks again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Assuming you want to keep the sd card in your phone then:

1. Connect your phone to your pc and select "Disk drive". Copy all content of your sd card to a folder on your pc.

2. As Sneaky said previously, reboot your phone into Recovery and connect as mass storage then copy everything from your pc to your phone (you can only copy to the sd card FAT partition)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zulwik:
Hi My problem with sms notification

Still not working sometimes. I have installed Go sms pro maybe this is problem.

Sometimes i don't have sms ringtone, only little white icons on bar.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Same procedure as every year, James!

Before you come in here whining for problems ask yourself first what have you done to the ROM. Up until now, you where the only one with the SMS notification problem as i see it.

Up until now you have not said anything about a 3rd-party SMS app.

My apologies if you had mentioned it before, then i didn't read it but i am very sure you said nothing about GO SMS before.

So i would strongly suggest to get rid of that app, delete Dalvik Cache and Cache at least and try again. Probably it would even be better to reflash the whole thing and NOT install any 3rd-Party SMS app.

It is very likely that a fancy SMS app messes up the Sense notifications as its probably not meant for sense or custom sense ROM's.

I am aware that i have done stupid things like this many times before myself yet i still don't get why you did not mention that other SMS app before? People wouldn't have a clue how to help you if they only know half the facts...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zulwik:
Sorry thanx Mate.

I will try.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Hey bud I read what Sneaky typed up and he put it down.

I read somewhere on the HTC Sensation board that Sense ROMs have problems with GO Sms. That being said I've been using this ROM with Handcent SMS for 7 weeks now and have not experienced 1 single problem. Not even a hiccup with anything as far as a 3rd party SMS app. Might want to experiment with another app. Cheers

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Copy that mate. Thanks again Sneaky and Sandymac. Some Thanks are in order.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
DalvikMover v.1.6 final for TBD Sensation XL Gen3

Hi all,

i released an update of DalvikMover.

Updated from v1.15 final to v1.16 final

I implemented a Menu Option to rebuild/clean Dalvik Cache, since i noticed

that some of you installed additional Apps to clean Dalvik Cache.

Yours, Stephan
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
Maybe I am being a **** but I never have space to move dalvik, I only have three apps installed but even with none I am still about 30mb short?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Alex, this has been discussed extensively in the thread. Please read back at least a week. What you need to do is look at all the apps included in Dan's ROM and decide if you really use them. I have managed to remove everything I don't use, including minor items like wallpapers and keyboards and still have 21 of my own apps with 26Mb free and Dalvik on NAND. ;)

EDIT: It helps if you reduce the partition when flashing. I use 7/149/7 but if you want to be safe then use 7/156/7. Have a look at the free memory on System ROM. If this is high then it is wasted as it cannot be used for anything else. Mine is 1.97Mb. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marz_xx:
Alex,

you're not giving us enough information here - how can we judge whether you're a ****? ;)

However, I do recognise the space-problem, since I had that too.

What I ended up doing is remove (a lot) of apps from the original zipfile before flashing (actually, I also removed some media files such as ringtones, and the weather animations which I tend not to look at).

I then reflashed the rom, after first shrinking the system size (I think by about 20 megs). That gave me enough space to move the Dalvik cache (but I must admit that after a while and especially installing some updates, i ran out of space again)

To determine how much you can shrink the system partition on nand, I actually flashed twice. First with original partition size as adivised by Dan, then I checked in Titanium backup what space I had left, and I decreased by (almost) that amount.

As I understand it, removing apps after flashing, and updating apps, will affect the dalvik cache, which you might want to clear up in Titanium backup for this reason - although DM v16 can do that too now, I think.

I'd be interested to see what others do though, because as I said, after a while I ran out of space again so had to move the dalvik cache back to sd
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zboq:
Something wierd happened today. Few days back I have moved dalvik cache to nand and I was happy how system is responding and all the sudden, today I'm checking how much space I have left in Nand and guess what: My dalvik cache is on SD-EXT - LOL.

Don't really know what happened there, I didn't even noticed that my phone is slower or something. Now, I will move it back to nand with new dalvik mover and see what happens in the future :P
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Partition your SD card right with the proper SD-EXT that helps alot. Man I have 96 apps installed.............yes that's right I have 96. I still have over 380mb of memory available and plenty of space. I'm only using a 8gb class 6 SD card.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
DalvikMover

Hi mates,

of course DavikMover is not always an option.

If somebody uses a huge amount of Apps, it doesn't make sense to move Dalvik Cache to NAND.

You will continuously run out of memory.

In my case, i removed alot of stuff like FB, Keyboards, Flickr, Piccasa and some other stuff - and it results in 107MB free space on NAND - Dalvik Cache there as well.

But a good option will be to get rid of the "outdated versions" of updated apps.

I didn't had much time last week, so i couldn't check if these "outdated version" will be removed after rebooting the device as Dunc mentioned(did he?) :)

If not! - there would be an interesting new point to work on, since the most users don't want to downgrade an App once updated.

So this old apps are waste of memory and it would be a topic thats worth to work on - possibly with an App.

Maybe sandymac can confirm that outdated Apps won't get deleted while rebooting, so this could get my new "installation site".

Yours, Stephan
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
You're either having a laugh or showing off, not sure which. If you don't know the difference between a TMOUS and EU HD2 then you are not being helpful. :D

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Stephan, dalvik does get cleaned up on a reboot (I believe) but the problem comes when you just update apps from the market. The older version is not always removed from dalvik and as such this can grow significantly with the result that memory becomes critical if Dalvik is on NAND (on an EU device :D).
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
App updates

Hey Sandy :)

Ok - so we have a new job to do :)

Can i count on you?

Yours, Stephan
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
That is wierd! I'm sure Stephan would be interested to know if it happened again and under what circumstances (a reboot etc). I helped Stephan test DalvikMover extensively and must say I never experienced this. ;)

By the way, you don't always see a difference in speed, rather in how quickly certain apps open. It also reduces the load on the sd card which can't be a bad thing. ;)

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Always, Stephan! :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
DalvikMover

Hi zboq,

i am really surprised how this can happen.

But are you really sure Dalvik Cache was located on /data when you moved it the last time?

Would be good to know if it's a presumption or a fact :)

Maybe you can reproduce this effect - please let me know!

@Sandy:

Thanks mate :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zboq:
Yes of course, I had to do a lot of cleaning to move dalvik to nand. I checked few times after that how much space I have left in /data. So last time i did that, it was like 53MB and all the sudden today dalvik mover showed me 133MB free in /data and info that dalvik cache is on sd-ext. Dunno what happend so I installed 1.16 and moved it back to /data.

Will see for how long :-)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
DalvikMover

I am really curious on this :)

Dzenki zboq
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zulwik:
When I uninstall Go SMS pro then my sms notifications it works now. :)

cheers
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
SMS notifications

Hi zulwik,

good to know!

Damn - we should write such stuff down to a given place, so people can get such informations on the first sight.

Regards, Stephan
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zulwik:
Exactly. Go sms may cause problems with sms notifications.

When we use sms client, we use one, no two or three :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Your right forgot there is a difference in size. I'm on a TMOUS device. I do not use Dalvikmover. Also I've still kept my flash partition at 7/277/7:cool:

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Exactly that's what I posted yesterday about GO SMS. That app has problems with Sensation based Sense ROMs. Handcent has treated me fine.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
I'll take that as an apology, then. :D Given that you are using the EU build (sd-ext), you could reduce your partition to at least 7/156/7 and release so much more memory for even more apps! :D Seriously, though, I would suggest you try moving Davlik cache to NAND and testing it as it does make a difference. ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
I've been tempted to use a smaller partition and flash v3.7 but v3.6 is great and has been good. I'd like to try Dalvikmover but I've read to many problematic comments about this. Decisions, decisions. :eek:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
I have an FAQ mate. I can put it there. Have a look in my signature! You can even participate. I offered that long ago and also wrote it on the OP. I don't have much time to maintain it these days so anyone wanting to put decent information on the FAQ is highly welcome. I can add you to the Access-List if you have a valid gmail address.

The only things i ask for is good enough English so people can understand and translating tools don't generate word-salad from it and also only Items that are actually asked Frequently ;)

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You certainly are in some ways :D but i have the same issue and don't yet understand the magix of the Dalvik mover as i couldn't be bothered to play with it yet...

Found my answer already though, so pls folks be gentle with me :)

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I am not Sandymac, yet i can add that i check with Titanium's "clean Dalvik Cache" every now and again and i noticed that it never found outdated apps, but i do install A LOT of updates (have some 50 apps that get updates frequently). From this i deduce that Dalvik gets tidied up at some point, probably reboots...

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See my answer above. I am pretty sure it does clean out outdated apps.

[EDIT]

Brush2, i have added this suggested thing to the FAQ as the very first Item with Credits to your Name as you brought it up and i found it a very intriguing thought to have it there. Not that it would make a difference though... sadly... but we have said it...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] brush2:
Hi Sneaky,

i hope you didn't get my comments wrong.

The "Damn - we should write such stuff down to a given place ... " phrase wasn't meant as criticism against you - it was more the reaction on the discussions about some ROM issues or assumed faults constantly.

Rather write it once down in FAQ's than posting the solutions over and over again.

I don't want to come to the fore - but if you need help on maintaining this, for example Sandymac or i am willing to support you on this.

In my case there's the question if my english would be good enough to do the job.

Yours, Stephan
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Well, all the problems that you have read are about EU users struggling to gain sufficient NAND memory to move dalvik which you don't have to worry about so it is certainly worth a try. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mentalityx:
Dag gummit Sandmac you have talked me into it. When I get home Ill give it a go and see what happens. Right now Im doing the repartition of my SD card to 1024mb with a swap of 128. Just restoring my backup now.