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[Windows Phone 7 General] toza:
No no, don't get me wrong. I just stated those as first things someone notices when they for example tryout the phone in the shop, or when you give your phone to someone to try it, those questions kinda pop up the first.;)

And of course, then the answers to their questions usually end with: "No, it doesn't have that feature, but it will be possible in some time in future...".

That is what I think repels people from WP:rolleyes:

Peace!;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
As long as its anti-MS "news" its fact to some people, no matter the source. I'm sure you know the WP7 bash brigade never miss an opportunity to do their bit for WP7, I mean Local Scout and app extras are just so overdone by everyone, arent they?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
efjay you couldn't be more wrong. Keep playing victim for this platform.

You people have absolutely no issue ragging on iOS/Android but everytime someone says something that isn't positive about WP7 it's a troll...

Seriously, get over yourselves.

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Lol. Hillarious!

This forum has an active and engaged community. I don't think half of you people know what trolling actually is.

Calling people trolls... That can be considered such.

Have fun at WPCentral or where ever you decide to go. I'm sure the Nazi Moderating will keep it just the way you like it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
+1 people have been suckered time and time again by companies promising to implement xyz features and never delivering. Can't blame folks for sideways looks if/when a salesperson promises things will get better real soon, but you have to buy now.

@ a verizon store I was ready to buy (off contract) a new phone, until I realized that local LTE rollout was still not happening. The salesman promised "soon" but couldn't produce a date in writing. He lost 5 sales that morning, mine and 3 others inside of 10 minutes.

The others went to att and iphones, I just stayed with tmo.

Companies flat out lying about future updates for shortterm sales/contracts stings, but only once.

Microsoft is learning, and reminds me of the TV commercials "linux is everywhere"... learning slowly, methodicly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Well, AT&T told me to wait for a new tower to come up in Janurary and I moved to T-Mobile in August, then in October or November the Tower went up and everyone with AT&T here has 3G and I can barely hold a GPRS signal.

Sometimes they do deliver. But some have really bad reputations for lying. Shouldn't say lying. More like "over-promising." Rule #1 is to never believe what a rep tells you, though. They are only sales[wo]men.

Probably going to leave T-Mobile in the next two months or so, though. They simply aren't doing anything - at all - to improve their coverage. They're a dead end and everyone around here who had them, has already dropped them and went back to AT&T, the only carrier that cared enough to extend their coverage to this area.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
Question

what in the holy frack is playing victim for the platform? Seriously I thought this was a mobile forum not a political rhetoric forum...

The only time I've ever heard playing victim to anything has been in politics...I dunno

As far as changes or issues I want to immediately say camera and then I see the Samsung focus make fantastic photos versus every other OEM. I wouldn't mind a beefed up camera (and I want to test the Toshiba - fujitsu photo quality but that price!) I also want to say file explorer registry access would be nice too but otherwise I don't have any major complaints with the platform
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
I don't know about anyone else, but I feel strong about what I choose, and am strong enough to stand by it...no matter what the next person says. WP7 baby!
[Windows Phone 7 General] dstyl:
I think it is a shame that they kicked out the bluetooth ftp and the full permissions of wm( no native code and so on) :( , i dont know why they removed it but my next phone will be only a wp when i can send my files and there are up to date stuff for it outhere ( Games and so on ) . The good UI is shurely a + and its not bad , but a android phone has it too , and the next update will only add multitasking , but they need it only because ,,apps,, have no permission to stay background ( it seems like they cutted out more features then the added ).

Wishlist:

+Full Hardware Access

+No Unlock needed to install homebrews

+Bluetooth/Wifi ftp

Maybe theyll add it in Tango :(

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But a lot of people buy the old peace of hardware for more than 1000 euro for one (no joke http://www.ebay.de/itm/Apple-iPhone...eripheriegeräte_Notebooks&hash=item3f0e1d96de and at the german launch ucant buy it you only could make a contract at t-mobile ) but iphone seems to be the ferrari of the cellphones (for every day user) , and the iphone has a lot of missing features too , and your personal data isn´t secure and they didn´t fix it till today so i think MS wont fix the missing wm features .
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Just please, someone explain it to me. I just dont get it.

If you open an app.. it relaunchs the whole app. If you press back, then it resumes the app. But WHY THE HELL it relaunchs the app? I really need to use the back button ALL THE TIME?

If i'm talking with someone over whatsapp, i receive a message on facebook, go on and answer, and receive a message on MSN, go to browser, and go back to messages.. where is whatsapp instance now? Gone. So I have to open it by tile.

And it takes 8 seconds to reopen it, 3~4 more to refresh. Why not resume app like iOS does?

This is annoying as hell!
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Because Microsoft decided that you didn't need more than 5 apps in the app switcher, and they also decided that you should have no reason to pin an app to the switcher.

It is the main gripe I have about WP7, the notion that Microsoft always knows best, and if you have any problem with the way a feature works (or, more accurately, doesn't work) then you are clearly not using your phone correctly.

If you want to make sure that WhatsApp stays visible in the app switcher, you need to remember to switch back to it before it disappears from the switcher.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vash_h:
Why does ppl blame wp7 for not implementing dnla?

Blame your manufacturer. Dnla is definitely supported, its just whether ir manufacturer want to include it or not.

For example, I have dnla support on my LG optimus 7 since day one, on 7004.

Sent from my LG Optimus 7
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
If any phone has DLNA, here is where to find out:

http://www.dlna.org/products/
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
It's ok it to just have 5 apps in fast switch. But why not resume when opening it directly in your tiles?

Back = Resume

Open = Fresh Instance.

WTH? Which user would like to wait 8 seconds instead of instant opening? Mainly end users which are not going to use the back button like MS want they to do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Took you this long to find a reason? -.-

It isn't only the fact that you troll, it's how arrogantly you troll. You and the other few members with a load of Android phones in their signature who come here just to spread nonsense. As I've said before, you don't like the platform, GREAT, but why do you need to offer the same opinion, with the same posts, in every thread - whether it be positive or negative towards the platform.

Well, I mean, obviously you're using it wrong. You should have picked a phone OS that works the way you want it to lol. If you wanted full multitask support, you probably should have known how Windows Phone handled it, and gotten an alternative.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Grow up.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Because I'm saying the truth? That's like me using an iPhone and not being able to get the icons to flip & complaining... I feel sorry for your RoboChildren, homie

Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
You should work on your reading comprehension and deductive reasoning skills. Find anywhere in my post where I said I wanted full multitasking (hint: you can't, because it isn't there). I want the WP7 app switcher to be useful. I could easily be useful with a couple of trivial enhancements.

But you would rather jump to juvenile conclusions and try (vainly) to cast aspersions on anyone who dares to ever say anything less than glowing about WP7. Sorry, but your rose-colored world is a fantasy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Playing victim? Ragging on android/iphone? Is that what you call it when someone enjoys their chosen smartphone platform? Wonder when you've ever seen a single post of mine in an android or iphone forum, anywhere on the internet. I post on WP7 forums, to chat with other users who enjoy the platform. You clearly dont, prefer another yet constantly find something to moan about in WP7, and tell us all how bad WP7 is because it doesnt do what your chosen platform does. Whats the latest "problem", screen res, isnt it? How the Titan will look like crap because the screen is 800x480. Though you've never seen it. Yet you know full well that that is the only screen res currently supported by WP7. And you do all that in the WP7 forum. That is called trolling.

I have enjoyed WP7 from day one in its original version on my DVP from the day I got it back in December, and dont spend my time in android forums telling others what I think of their platform. WP7 works as Microsoft designed it to, will be getting an update to make it even better, which will increase my enjoyment of it, and people are free to choose not to use it if it doesnt meet their needs. So why not just go and enjoy your chosen platform that does meet your needs and stop posting about a platform that you clearly dont like?
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Very well said, mate. +1 on that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheuszg:
As I said in another WP7 cons thread, you guys seem to have the need to debate that over and over again. For christ sake, why oh why do we need just another thread of this kind again? We already know your damn problems with WP7 as you're posting it so often. Why don't you quit WP7 and leave us alone? I'm getting sick of those threads. I like WP7 the way it is and I really don't need a comparison to android or whatever. Please lock this one as it just brings us nothing but raging, whining, moaning whatever.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 1unu1:
Bluetooth file transfer.

Wtf MS i pay 400$ to a phone and i can't send a photo to another phone.

I girl asked me to take a photo of my self and send it to her by bluetooth , i was jaw dropped whe i saw that i can't send a simple image on my 400$ phone.I said to the girl that i send it by email or some other way and she started making fun of me "My 15$ phone can send photo to another phone and your "smarphone" can't?" I felt like smashing my phone.What if i want to send a word document to a colleague do i have to sent him an email and wait until he get home? This is just plain stupid MS!
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Well this is pretty stupid, let us assume your friend who wants the word document has his phone with him because if he didint youi would not be able to send the document to him via any means, now lets also assume that your friends phone is not a $15 dumb phone like your girl friend has because, well, WTF are you going to do with a WORD DOCUMENT on a dumbphone any way, so, we have established that he has a smart phone and he has it with him, then why of course, you can email it and he can read it on his phone, with mango, you could even collaborate online on the document.

PS can a mod please close this stupid thread, unless of course xda mods regard this as pointless ping ponging as "vibrant and engaging".
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
I've seen plenty of instances where a bluetooth or sdcard transfer was the only method of sharing a file.

For instance, in the woods, dirtbiking, mountain biking, whatever. No cellular connection. To share a map of an area is trivial by bluetooth, of even bluetooth is non working, just swap sdcards for a moment and copy to phone memory. Or pictures. Or videos of your buddy crashing on his face. Or the unreleased book in pdf from your favorite author, who happens to be riding with you that day. Yes, there are tons of reasons to allow sharing over bluetooth or sdcard. Its a very nice feature.

Maybe drm was their worry, or lack of complete control. I never read a real reason for not allowing it, other than not building a filer into the os. Or whatever reason for not wanting file access. Still shaking my head on that one.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 1unu1:
She has a 4 year old LG ku990i , you can view any word/pdf doc on that phone.And she can transfer any files by bluetooth.

It's just frustrating to see that things that every dumbphone are not available in a smartphone.A smartphone should have it all!
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Bt and nfc based transfer is superior to email. You didn't get that memo.

In any case Bt is useful for other things, like.getting files off a computer and wireless sync without an access point (these phones don't have wifi direct iirc).
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
No n8ter I clearly did nit get that memo and can honestly say in all my years withe smartphones of which I have had many, I have never transferred anything via Bluetooth, still, I guess tht if that is what you need to do, there are plenty of other platforms for you to try until/if ms implement it on wp7 , along with swappable SD cards, retina displays, NFC, registry editing,

Etc. Oh, by the way, my hd7 lasts me 16 hours between charges.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikroland:
That's because of all the iNaive-ism out there....
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Some good points well made afdicus, particulalrly around the lame promotional efforts from MS for wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I've lost count how many times people have made a funny face when i start talking to my phone & it just does it. For example, I was searching for the address of "Santa Clarita Studios in Santa Clarita, CA." My manager thought I was calling lol. I was at the studios one day & they needed me to run to Smart & Final, but I didn't know where the local one was. I pulled my phone out & said, "Smart & Final in Santa Clarita, CA." The customer asked if I was using an iPhone, lol. Of course I corrected him.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Great if you love your WP7 device.

Some people don't, and they still have WP7 devices.

They're just as entitled to give their opinions in this forum as you are.

Just because they aren't Pro-WP7 and you do not Like them, does not mean they are worth any less than your opinion.

Stop crying about it. Move on.

I went try the new Torch 9810 and the Bold 9900 in the AT&T and T-Mobile stores and they're faster than any WP7 device I've ever seen (both graphics, and starting/switching applications, and it has real multi-tasking, mind you). BB has maintained good security whilst allowing you to sideload applications, and allowing their phones to support SD cards. $49 Torch 9810 has 8GB space and up to 32GB SD card but a WP7 device someone bought for 4x that has to play Russian Roulette with SD cards, hack their phones to sideload applications, has a worse Browser than OS6 Blackberry devices (from over a year ago), and Terrible Notification System, Volatile Push Messages/Live Tile tickers, limited Codec Support (even Blackberries support DivX now), and worse HD Video Recording (25 FPS vs. 30 FPS on a Blackberry - on a sunsetting platform that was rushed to market (OS7))? Sorry, Does not computer. Sometimes I am empathetic towards the sympathizers, but there is way too much self-induced ignorance here...

I dunno why you people are so afraid to acknowledge faults in the platform and push Microsoft to do better. Everything seems to revolve around "I've loved it since day one, any improvements they make are just icing on the cake..." Well guess what, go read forums of laggy-as-**** Android phones (i.e. Vibrant forums, I'm equally critical of that device there) and you see the same crap as in this forum. People trying to gloss over obvious issues and arguing you about stuff that is obviously sub-par telling you to sell your phone and use something else. Those people say the same thing "Like, I love my phone and like... It's never like given me any problems... I would buy it again, like, totally dude!"

Saying X Betters Y doesn't mean I want to buy Y. Maybe it means I want X to improve?

Sorry, I'm immune to that B.S. Cry all you want. You're not going to change anyone's mind with it, nor will it help the platform make sales. All you will do is succeed at deluding yourself and maybe Microsoft since they're that stupid.
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Sorry n8ter, but the way you come across is as a person who has nothing positive to say about wp7 and this on a wp7 forum where there are many people who like wp7 as well as those like you who don't. You are of course entitled to your opinion and you may well be very happy with a blackberry, but don't get dismayed when people come back defending wp7, as you yourself have said, these are vibrant and engaging forums.

Perhaps we are not all as erudite as you and some posts may come across as naive, but then, smartphone preference is a pure construct (in a post modern sense) and thus attaching any meaning at all is in itself inherently naive, but hey these arguments are fun!

When you get your blackberry, please post your experiences with it on these forums, I for one would be very interested.

There's always been Ethel
[Windows Phone 7 General] xDomsx:
Talking **** about WP7 is way more productive than saying good things.

MS already knows good things... we need to complain about every detail so MS would improve their OS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Good luck with that
[Windows Phone 7 General] StevieBallz:
People are whining all the time about Microsoft not listening to what people want of the platform and that is plainly and simply wrong.

When they announced WP7 it became known that it does not support Copy&Paste and during the first press reviews those were mainly negative about the long loading times of games on some devices.

When they launched the system they anounced as one of the first things that Copy&Paste would be added in an update (I guess they listened to what people had said up to that point).

People were also going on about not being able to save camera settings, not having their own ringtones, wanting a way to switch between apps instead of only going backwards, wanting to have a unified inbox. Many reviews said they would like to see office integrated with the SkyDrive and not only OneNote. HTML5 Support was asked for. All those things and many more are coming in Mango. Look around this forum and the Internet on what people complained about and compare it with what is included in Mango.

Not everything is in there but many things that were asked for are PERIOD

Another point is that Microsoft led us to believe this and led us to believe that. But for a big part when you look back it was conclussions some people (also from the Media) drew based upon what was said.

Microsoft told us that all updates would be be distributed by Microsoft's servers instead of being Downloads from the Mobile Operators or OEMs. And they are. OEMs and Operators are still included in the approval process but Microsoft was only giving a technical description and the situation still is much better than in the Windows Mobile days (when you were lucky to get an OS upgrade at all).

Microsoft was saying in February that they would release an update including Fast App Switching and an updated IE by the end of the year. Later they said that Update (Mango) would be hitting phones in fall. Now people are complaining that a rumor of September 15th and September 1st before that did not hold and and if someone tells them: "we said sometime during fall and fall has not started yet" or "don't believe everything someone says on the internet" it means he's out of touch? Seriously they rushed their plans as much as they could.

It now seems to me that the biggest mistake Microsoft made was to give the Beta to developers to soon and that they anounced when they RTM'd Mango and sent it to the OEMs because all people hear seems to be: "it's obviously finished" and most don't have any understanding of the process involved in building software.

Some people who want to say that everything Microsoft does is in vain and every effort is doomed since day one will be constructing scenarios all the time and ride them for as long as they can.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikroland:
3 simple sentences for you:

Did all those other platforms get all those features 1 year, NO.

Did WP get most of those features in 1 year,YES.

Will WP surpass all those other platforms in another year or so, YES.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ very simple sentences indeed.

Seriously get a better argument.

Carry on
[Windows Phone 7 General] JVH3:
Starting Tuesday, Mango is officially being released on AT&T in the U.S.A. In Europe, it already started being officially released. So, any pre Mango faults are irrelevant to anyone about to make a decision. The rollout is clearly better planned than the NoDo update.

A read of your recent posts here and in a couple other spots makes you look like a Windows phone 7 bashing troll. I didn't want to hastily judge so I did some searching.

Figured with the number of posts you have and the 81 thanked posts that you may have actually created at least 1 thread of value, but I searched and found none.

I did see one of those thanked posts that in February you were using an HD7 and after your first day seemed very happy with it.

Curious about what changed to turn you so against it.

Judging by the people at my office, the primary choice of their phone is not functionality, but more often is entirely based on the opinion of someone they trust.

Some sales guys and execs where I work who are not phone geeks have android phones almost entirely because someone told them that is what they should have or that it is the next big thing for phones.

Droid has good advertisements, that make it seem cool and trendy, which benefits all Android devices. They also figure that the techy people will be getting them, so they will have help if they have problems.

I've been programming professionally for nearly 15 years. I've created apps for Windows Mobile. I've also decompiled, modified and recompliled manila lua files for Sense. I am one of the techy geeks that a person would ask for help on one of these decisions.

I would not hesitate to recommend Windows Phone 7. It will do everything the typical user wants and needs it to do. And with Mango, it will even satisfy most advanced users.

Big pluses are usability, consistency, and stability.
[Windows Phone 7 General] addicus:
Nater people buy Android because of a plethora of device choices, price points, extreme marketing and in store sales techniques. The advertising pushes specs. They never mention stability, usability and continuity. Microsoft is providing a different experience. The system is more mature than the others available, while having tons of room for growth and improvement. I have used them all and even pre Mango, the capability was evident. Similar to iOS, the limitations will come from the software creators and what they have for a vision. Discounting the fact Microsoft actually responded to the criticism received and delivered is not valid.