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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
While I agree and would never do that to my phone, I would just find somewhere else to return it that would accept it. That always works.

But the main point here is that it is the natural "next thing to do" when you go about punishing people for treating their own hardware as, well, their own hardware and installing whatever software they would like on a device that they own...

...Why don't they expend this type of effort on making the phones unbrickable? That would surely save them far more money than "catching the bad guys" and denying people warranty service for things issues that have nothing to do with the software you chose to install on a device you own.

If my PC were to **** itself and something broke because I was running linux/macos/beos/MSDOS/Windows/Xenix/AmigaOS/etc do you know what that means? That the computer was a piece of crap and the computer (or component responsible) should be replaced if it was under warranty... do you suggest that a piece of hardware failing is the softwares fault?

Most (non oem) motherboards come with overclocking tools built into the BIOS these days with safeguards to keep you from blowing your isht up.

This has less to do with hardware failures than it has to do with the freedom to run whatever you want on a computer you purchased....with a dual-core 1.2ghz chip and 1 gig of ram you can be damn sure this is a computer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
Best post of the day +1 lol

xDDDD
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abhaxus:
I wasn't sure you were crazy, until you said TEP was thirty bucks. It's 8. Honestly not having it on your plan is crazy at this point, unless you have a good backup device you aren't planning on selling.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I was more wondering why he masturbates to his phone...

...then I remembered that we have SGS2's, lol...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
"Hurp Durp you said something wrawng YOUZ CRAZY" I was only quoting what I was told by the sprint lady when I bought my phone. Maybe she thought I was asking about another service, or i misunderstood her. Needless to say tho, alot of people dont have that service.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ptfdmedic:
I just got mine replaced. I didn't mean to brick it but it's actually really easy to do. Just flash one of the kernel tars and select the PIT that goes to a different model. That will produce a solid brick. I accidentally did that within a few hours of receiving my Touch.

Not suggesting that you should do this but it easy enough to do and no one will question it.

Also do your your exchange over the phone, it's just as fast, if not faster..and free.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ptfdmedic:
I was thinking about this and I really doubt this is anything we need to even think about. Samsung has openly encouraged development on the phones. They can't very well go on the record as supporting community developers and them screw them over by voiding their warranty as soon as they do.

That would turn into a class action law suit.

Also the counter may be a way of measuring the amount of development taking place. Think of it like one of those things that counts traffic on the road. It's more for access the amount of traffic and nothing sinister.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paniro187:
Well they can sort people that know what they are doing which you obviously don't.....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
Dude, you know those are used to track individual vehicles? When you roll over the cable, it tags your tires. Then they know where you are, Man! And how long you're there for, Man! They even know how many people you have in the car, their names, and what they had for dinner, Man!

Okay, sorry... Couldn't resist jumping on the paranoia bandwagon for a short ride. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
If you brick your phone, I have no issue with your warranty being voided.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
+1
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abowlby:
Oh god you didn't call me bro? Hmm, also irrelevant.

The Epic has a "fancy name lol." How is that fancy? Also, I understand the devices are highly similar, however can you refute they are also different? LOLOMGEEZ!? Because, if they aren't...why don't we just flash the international SII stock rooted kernel?

Yes, Mr. Kondick is not the CEO or entire board of Samsung, but they have made an effort to not PURPOSEFULLY stop flashing either.

Is there anything else you would like to itemize in order to blow something trivial out of proportion?

I'm not flaming, I'm merely suggesting you are being sensationalist, the same as you are doing to Samsung about this "flash counter."

All do respect, brah.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aal1:
Or my trucks front tire. "lost my phone" works just as well as "broke my phone".....you get a new one the next day for 50 bucks + shipping w/the insurance.

---------- Post added at 06:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:47 PM ----------

I actually did die laughing....+111111111

Gave him a thanks for that one.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
Im choking in passive agressive goo. Also, did you really comb through that hard and pick out where i was joking and said "fancy name"? Obviously they look different...but other than the outser casing and the cdma vs GSM technology...theyre the same phone. And since when does making a post about something you find interesting, count as sensationalizing something? O_O

And yeah...you are flaming lol. I await your "you're wrong, you sensationalizing bro" response :]

You see what i did there? Passive agressive response? :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ptfdmedic:
Not quite sure how to take this. It makes no sense.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shahkam:
One good trick even tho you guys flash 9999 roms for the return part send your grandpa to do it for you they won't doubt or even think he flashed any rom they will just note : counter is faulty or something like that LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
Lol this would be youtube worthy XD
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
$30 a month for protection plan? We've been given the tools to read such a counter? Not very good info

TEP is $8.

And I have not been any such tool.

And btw, rooting and flashing your phone does not void your warranty with us.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
This thread started out great with a lively discussion and ideas being tossed around...and then I step away for an hour or two...smh
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
Its like you read two posts in the whole thread...and then commented on them 0_o

and or youre trying to get us to infer that you work for sprint. Which i dont pay attention to anyone anymore that says "i work for this company...youre wrong". To easy to just make up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abowlby:
To be sure. I think the OP is a tad sensitive and quick to perceive alternate opinions as personal slander.

My prose is, why does this "counter," have to be inherently "evil?" I mean, when we root we knowingly void our warranty. On top of that sending bricks back to Samsung to fix, all at their expense, is a leak. Of course they will try to patch that leak, it's a gotdamned business. The sunny side up, it could be a tool used to gather stats for R&D that will be used in a future plan or product.

The whole "sinister corporate big brother eye is upon us" schtick is hackneyed and seems steeped in pot and diner coffee. I mean, I understand the idea of not knowing "all" your device does, but if you think consumer electronics are anywhere near as prying as the **** they don't sell us, you my friend* are daft.

*the general, understood "you."
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I agree. Hell, maybe it's even for tracking what and how things are bricked to prevent it? You know? Sure, Apple is the absolute last company that would like their computers/devices to be used as another commodity beige box, but, Samsung on the other hand would likely be thrilled with that idea. Apple would exclude themselves from that market, once again, and the world would keep on turnin'. Perhaps this is means to that end.

I mean, just logistically speaking the layers and layers and layers of management and customer service between YOU and Samsung are so immense that even if they had something easy and quick to use that they could train people about we would have heard about it, literally, last fncking year.

At worst this is another way to track us to sell our data for marketing purposes, though, Samsung is above this. Not because they wouldn't to make money, but, because they don't need to nickle and dime us to death to get our money. They are such a massive company that this data is likely very valuable to them.....IF that is even what it is.

My skepticism on the issue stems from the pragmatic side of things...not that I doubt there is a mechanism to count things but that it would be some grand conspiracy that A> is only out to screw us and B> we wouldn't have heard about already...and that's not even considering C> the semi-retarded abstracted support network between the manufacturer and my phone.

But, hey, the sky may very well be falling...Once I'm done at the office I don't get out much.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] enormous:
But what if we figure out how to reset the counter counter and then find a counter counter COUNTER??!

HEAD ASSPLODE!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
Please refer to a thread created by user Korey_Nicholson, in which one of our Service & Repair M&P's is clearly posted stating we work on rooted phones. The verbage is asinine and at times silly, but the gist is simple. No warranty is voided.

And please don't doubt that I work for Sprint. I can easily verify this in private, since you are clearly mistrusting.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
Mistake post
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
counterception.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kabu:
i brick my epic touch with 3 signal strips and sprint knew it was rooted even thought the phone wouldnt boot it was fried but sprint scan the phone and saw it was rooted and still gave me one free of charge of course im with my 14 day policy and i have insurance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
I see what you did there.....and i +1 you sir XD
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
8 dollars a month.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
Thanks and have an upvote too! See what I did there?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Chainfire:
Just wanted to note the "counter reset counter" has been mentioned several times but has never been proven to exist.

The normal unsigned kernel flash counter (which can be seen if you reboot into download mode using the three finger salute) may or may not exist on the E4GT, I haven't seen it (obviously) and can be reset using the common Galaxy USB JIG.

HOWEVER, on the international SGS2 they have disabled the "JIG resets counter" functionality with the 2.3.4 official firmware release.

FYI.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nate420:
I dont care really about the counter or reset counter as there are dubious ways to get a replacement...

Counters are better than signed and encrypted bootloaders... Imo

But atleast we know about it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Chainfire:
Personally I don't care much about the counters either, it's the yellow warning triangle when running non-Samsung kernels that pisses me off, hehe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.....AND I +1 YOU SIR XD

<<www.thehomedepot.com>>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skribbles505:
Same here! I'm betting if I take my phone in with the triangle i'll get more grief than if its just the counter. I'm gonna have to find or build a usb jig so I can get rid of it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Chainfire:
Unlike the counter, you don't actually need the JIG to get rid of the triangle, IF you have a stock kernel available (which I believe we still do not have for the E4GT ?)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nate420:
No source yet.... I think one is in the works or something not sure havent been keeping up with rumors or hear say as im enjoying my phone to much to worry about oc/uv,root,roms,and recovery
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Oh, we've had kernel source since midnight of release day... Just not the kernel that ships with the phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paniro187:
Swype sucks I am saying the give to developers that know what they are doing which you obviously don't since you oh so smoothly bricked a brand new device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
<scratching my head>

What in the world are you trying to say in your posts? I hope your foreign because the form of your english is completely confusing.

First, nobody said anything about swype. Second, he never said anything about bricking a phone or anything of the sort. He said who cares about the counter because if Samsung voided your warranty over flashing then they'd be complete hypocrites. Thirdly, your posts make my brain hurt, please stop until you can make some sense.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Phateless:
Guys, this is probably nothing more than a limit on liability. They now have an excuse to deny us warranty if they feel it necessary but that doesn't mean they'll check every single return.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 4redstars:
Samsung gave a CM team member an SGS II for development. I highly doubt this is that big of a deal.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/samsung-cyanogen/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BlackRainX:
SGSII May have Flash Counter on the board... In the cpu or somewhere.

But it doesn´t matter when you are gonna to go a warranty..

Use amazing app by Tegrak to overvolt your CPU/Internal voltage as much as you can and you will toast your CPU and you can stop care about if it was flashed or not mehehe! :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craven667:
ok well i am new to evo i rooted flash to Evolved. i looked around but i only see oc to 1.2 i came from a shift and was able to pull 1.5 from it . so Kernel or rom can pull more
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ubrg33k:
To my knowledge, and others can correct me if I'm wrong, but Evo 4g on any current Kernel out there can be only overclocked to 1.2. Some people even are having problems at that speed, so I doubt going any higher would be beneficial. Not saying you shouldn't try, I'm just saying that it probably wouldn't be stable.
[EVO 4G General] mfknboss:
All i can say is ROFLMFAO!!!!!!! if i were a dev, id let ANYONE who had a fix for something broken on a leaked rom which i KANGED from somewhere, but give credit where i got it from, android=open source :D. If someone posts a fix in my thread! I would not be offended...id be like " good looking!" I been trying to figure that out :) at the end of the day i have no patents on any of the work..didnt sign any non disclosure agreements..cant get rich doing it...its just for FUN!! Keyword ---> FUN!! So who gives a **** who fixed what or who posted a fix in a rom thread. Tired of crying ass devs locking threads because someone posted a fix in the thread. Especially when they asked for help. And *****ing because users are reporting bugs.

Dont release a beta if u dont want to hear about bugs!

Community=everyone!!! So everyone should be able to help eachother no questions asked and be greatfull someone took their time to help out.

With that being said, im getting an iphone!

SIKE!!! lol, but now i am upgrading thou..these evo OG threads are rediculous. Theyre funny as hell to read but ill move on to a forum thats more stable lol.
[EVO 4G General] tristandespain:
Cool story bro.
[EVO 4G General] 14u2c:
screen shots
[EVO 4G General] wryun:
meh ......
[EVO 4G General] thlinx:
Both of you are reported...
[EVO 4G General] alaman68:
That's as far as I got
[HTC Sensation] kamikazees:
Hello,

I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.

On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.

I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?
[HTC Sensation] lianw:
You need 850 and 1900 UMTS bands.

There are two Sensations. The Z710e and Z710a. You have the e and you need the a.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
I'm afraid you have the wrong sensation. Like the post above said, you need the Telstra\Bell\Virgin mobile sensation which is z710a
[HTC Sensation] kamikazees:
Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
You need to get European version.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
No! European, T-mobile and Asian version wont work with at&t 3G. You need to get the z710a sensation
[HTC Sensation] tidy01:
I have several accounts set up on my phone, all send and receive ok, but when I open up any of the accounts (except the exchange account) they only show unread mail. Any other mail in the inbox is not visible, although when on my computer outlook displays all inbox mail. Only had the phone a few days and cannot see what I settings I need to change, cannot find any threads relating to this.

It's a pain because I cannot lookup previous emails for info. etc.:(

Thanks in advance if anyone can point me in the right direction
[HTC Sensation] brkkewy:
IMAP vs POP

I am assuming that you have your outlook set up to access your email account using POP which causes Outlook to physically download and remove the data from the server. If you change your Outlook settings to use IMAP instead then the data will live on the server and you can access it from your computer, your phone, another computer using web-access etc.

To get this set up you can search the web for IMAP directions for your specific provider and outlook along with your phone.

Hope this helps.

Bob
[HTC Sensation] dadanepal:
Try to increase the sync duration for the seperate accounts. Are you going to individual accounts or trying to look at it from the combined view. Removing the account and adding back might help too.
[HTC Sensation] tidy01:
Thanks for the replies, I had worked around the problem by forwarding any email from the 2 problem accounts to gmail. However they are POP accounts so will try altering to IMAP to see if that cures the problem.

Thanks again
[General Questions and Answers] mathew edison:
Hey guys,

I've looked everywhere but I really haven't been able to find a solution to this problem. I've signed up for a service called AED alert which we have here in the Netherlands. You get a text message whenever there's a resuscitation going on near your house/work place. I've been trying to install a custom ringtone so I can keep my phone on silent except for when it's a resuscitation alert. I know you can do this with contacts with actual numbers. The problem is that AED alert doesn't have a number as it's sent from a server. All these custom sms tones are number based. Is there any way I can work around this?

thanks in advance

Mathew
[General Questions and Answers] mathew edison:
I do hope the question is clear enough?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] casualt:
I am just wondering because "sp3dev" seems to be very close in releasing android nand for our devices. Which is really amazing I don't deny that. That if we run android on nand could we run and would some1 develop a rom to run windows mobile on sd card? or could we switch back and forth. Either android or windows.

I only ask because I like windows mobile and I don't really see what all the hype is about running android from nand. Yeah faster yeah camera. I don't see the big deal because you can buy a really cheap android phone with a keyboard that would run a heck of a lot faster and have WAY LESS BUGS than running solely Android nand on the x1.

Yes I am asking because I would run android nand if I can still boot windows only because I like the applications. But if I cannot then I will stick with booting android from sd.

Do people still think development will continue for CWM sd builds if we have NAND?

thanks guys just some thoughts

Casualt
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
good question if people will continue to develop sd-based android once/if nand-flash works. (btw, release of nand-flash is "close" for months now... ;) ) running winmo from sdcard would just turn arount the current solution, but make a working os slow as hell. also it takes quite some dev-work to get it running from sd-card - wasted time if you ask me.

don't get the hype either, working kernel is much more important than nand-flash.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrytan93:
Newer kernel (2.6.35) > More stable Android build > More features working (Maybe ALL) > NAND!!

So all we need to do is wait for a newer kernel developed by sp3dev (Alex). :D
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
6 months ago we were finally graced with a Q&A forum. But why the **** is "general" littered with [Q] threads? A total of 8 Q threads were started today in general. Congrats to the douchebags for creating more work for our mod with your misplaced threads and complete disregard for helping with keeping our forum organized. We should stop answering ALL questions that get posted in general so they get buried and forgotten about.

good day.

/end rant
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
trolololololol
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
I completely agree, though you may want to look over your post and edit for language.

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Fascinate General] skynet11:
What's wrong with his language?
[Fascinate General] bobloblaw1:
Instant satisfaction and disregard for the rules are the new opiate of the people.

God is dead. Long live mod-less XDA.
[Fascinate General] landshark68:
He wouldn't be our beloved ray of sunshine chopper if he edited for language. And to answer your question chopper, it's because too many people are basically ignorant and have no common sense or reading comprehension. How many people posted absolute gibberish and ZOMG I CAN'T WAIT posts in jt's CM7 thread despite the fact he asked on numerous occasions not to post crap like that in the thread?

RIF people - Reading Is Fundamental (emphasis on the mental part for all you window lickers)

chopper salute - Good day!
[Fascinate General] DrkGhst87:
This here should be stickied and the thread should be remade 15 different times to take up the whole page, that way no one will miss this.

Sent from my MIUI Fascinate using the XDA Premium App.
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
I respect the devs wishes and will no longer answer questions in the general section...my apologies for contributing to the problem!
[Fascinate General] sergiopi:
I agree, we have our personal way to explain our moods and ideas, but this is a forum. There are rules, ( the forum rules, the laws, the common sense....).

I agree, I we need to clean BOTH: crap with polite language AND good ideas with rude language. This will be done not only because of the rules, also to have a nice place were to discuss.

No warning, no infraction now, just edited the post
[Fascinate General] efan450:
X2

i've tried to help some folks with questions in the general section as well, mostly to try to keep the smarter people from having to answer redundant questions that can be found in the stickies...and stop them from possibly posting in the dev section!...a guy can dream right?! But I guess in doing so I have also helped feed the monster that has mashed the general, and q and a section into this mess...I too will no longer answer any questions not posted in the q and a section.
[Fascinate General] wessiide:
Is it ok I requested a mod for less backlights for vgb? That's not really a omg this scary looking app called superuser is stuck on my phone please help?!
[Fascinate General] *Luke*:
Questions go in the q and a section =)

/troll
[Fascinate General] jt1134:
LOL!

Good day.