yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hotrider:
update does not work for me : dl.dropbox.com/u/60401206/update.JPG

recovery : dl.dropbox.com/u/60401206/IMG_0889.JPG

:confused:

Is it normal after you change the ROM to install again cwm recovery
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ruscan.calin:
so sorry we can not switch phones between us you have an interesting phone :D

well all you can do is waiting for a software release to use move upgrade tool

but I think you have a working phone for now...

is that so ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] V3R:
i wondered recently, if custom roms made for move would work on ot908?

and by the way, is cooking your own roms really hard? i got sdk on my pc, cwm recovery on phone, and a strange need for custom rom and I think I could try to do something :P
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
be kind and keep us informed

At least they confirmed the update. Please write on this forum when they announce the update.

Does anyone knows if One Touch Upgrade Q 1.8.7 for OT-908 could work on t-mobile move? I've listed all forum here and find out that it is not certain that ot 908 upgrade could work for move but maybe someone find the way to do that?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ruscan.calin:
ot908 and move ... it is the same...customization make the difference

let me see ... sdk is to develop apps cw to write ROMs ..what is missing here?

maybe some leaked tools ? only leaked long story not to loose time

but you can give a try!

BTW what do you need from your phone think about that

maybe a phone with swimming pool?

and take care not to brick your phone! yes I can remember there is need for tools so forget about that
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Not quite...

About the similarities between this models....

Look closer at the touch buttons above home key of both models!!! Search key is in the middle at 908, menu on left side and back on right... move keys are different, menu in the middle, search on right side and back on the lsft... This is the difference! Beside that, they are exactly the same!!!:D

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The same thing I said when I was unable to do it!!!

It is all about the right drivers I think... That was what I did... reinstaled drivers that came with move upgrade 1.5 software downloaded from alcatel, restart the pc, reconnect your move... but try to play with debugging option. Try to enable it and disable it, and it should work... after all... mine did, and managed to update it...

Good luck!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
weird...

Today when I got home from work, I found data connection active!!! And I didn't touch the phone, I put it on my desktop... then I heard the message buzzer and when I want it to read it... surprise! A new email!!! But how, I wonder, because I always keep my data connection OFF!!! WTF???????
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PMester:
My phone doing the same, since I upgraded it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
Battery drain issue

I have problem with the short battery life on my Move...

I've tested it few times and find out that with only 10 minutes of talks (2 phone calls) per day, 15-20 minutes of wi-fi usage, without playing any games or using Bluetooth, the battery last 25-26 hours max. I've installed the 1.5 upgrade, every time the phone start i usually kill some unnecessary tasks and still the same... 26 hours max.

If anyone had the same problem and solved it please write here how can I do that too.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oniock:
I have the same problem. I think that should help format of the device/ updating soft/ restore to fabric option.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
How?

How can android devices be formatted?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
that didn't help

I've already done that, actually went to the service and they have done it and that didn't help a bit, then i get new battery from them and still the same...

They said that couldn't do much more than that and to wait for new upgrade (but they didn't know if there will be any).

They offered me to pick other model but I didn't have enough funds to do that ;) so I stayed on this one.

I like the phone, just this battery drain seems to be the problem, other that that the phone is great for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ruscan.calin:
Hello! I know you are there I can seeeeee you!:D

man maybe you want to RESIZE/REFORMAT partitions on internal memory to get some space for apks but ...

what if you will have to wait ...about 3 weeks to solve this?;):D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Hi there my friend!!!

Well, yeah I'll really love the ideea of resizing system partitions... for more space for everything!

What do you have in plan for me, or you suggest to take the phone to service for a short vacantion... for about 3 weeks???:D:D:D:D:D:D:rolleyes:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
You know something that we don't? :)

@ruscan.calin: You know something that we don't? ;) Don't let us wait 3 weeks, is it about new upgrade to 2.3 Gingerbread?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gerbentje:
N00b-ish question

Hi there,

I own the (Dutch) T-Mobile Move since august 2011, rooted it with Gingerbreak en removed bunch of bloatware. From the start of this topic, I try to read up every once in a while.

Several times I installed the ROM Manager from Clockworkmod, but to backup my rom, it tells me to install the clockworkmod recovery. The list of options give me only phone models which have not even the slightest resemblance with my Move.

Q1 How did you manage to install the CWM recovery

Q2 Which steps to follow next? Where to obtain proper roms?

Reply #210 gives some insight, but I don't have a proper (eg powerful) pc to use right now, only a crappy P4... :o

If I did not read up properly, then I apologize, please be so kind to point out from where to read up, please.:confused:

I f*cked up my system a bit by manually moving apps from /data/apps tot system/apps. Changed CHMOD to RW-R-R, but after a couple of freezes and factory resets, the system isn't quite stable anymore...:p
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Use move upgrade from alcatel. It should revert your phone in a factory state in a few minutes. Try not to mess with apps from the system or data folders! You could delete a few apps safely but only from custpack/app folder. Keep in mind that this option cannot be undone! Once you delete an app you cannot bring it back even if you're doing a factory reset.

Try move upgrade!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Data connection issue fix

It seems that an app is responsible for activating data connection!

At least in my case!

AcuWeather is guilty! No doubt about it!

I move it safely to sd from its location (custpack/apps) and I do no see the 3g icon active anymore!

hope that helped.

Cheers everyone!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oniock:
@MadK9 - root is required?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Better not.

Try all... I've done it without rooting.

It should work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
No solution for short battery life problem?

No solution for short battery life problem? Noone here have had the same problem?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] horeanga:
Three or four days of battery since the upgrade. What I've done:

1. Disable 3G Networks (consumes battery)

2. Use network only over the subscription (WiFi really drains battery)

3. Uninstall AccuWeather (if you want weather I recommend Sense Analog Clock Small)

Also, disable any other stuff that's just fancy: haptic feedback, sync for contacts (it's needed just at the beginning) and so on...

When you have the chance, also upgrade the phone using move tool...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
Thank you

@horeanga: Thank you for the tips, i have 3G networks already disabled and also have upgraded the phone using move tool, so I will try with remaining suggestions you made and see the result.

To uninstall AccuWeather I should root the phone first, right? because I tried but the uninstall button is disabled.

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Will you please tell us how you did that without rooting?

I also have to uninstall AcuWeather and would be great if I don't have to root the phone first
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
Accuweather is a real hog, I constantly saw it tops on my battery usage indicator.

You don't actually have to uninstall it, just clear the data and stop the process. It may still start up on its own, but after I clear the data it never shows up in the battery stats page anymore.

If you ever start Accuweather or the widget on purpose be sure to clear its data again, once cleared it doesn't seem to actually do anything so it doesn't drain the battery.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Rooting your phone in order to upgrade it is not neccessary! If rooting a phone cancel a warranty... then...

Think...

For a smooth upgrade usb debugging must be enabled (in my case worked that way!), and use drivers for ot990!

I had no troubles at all upgrading my move with this options! This was my second update... a sort of repair... to test in fact this settings for this process.

Root is required if you plan to get rid of some annoying apps. Use superoneclick v 1.8 only! It is the only version than move accept it after update from alcatel.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
Thx

@MadK9: Thank you for the tips, I'll give it a try
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] justmechiry:
Wireless

I have a problem with wifi. When is connected , in 10-15 minutes he`s automatical disconnected. Why ?I try to set : setings-advanced-never sleep when is connected but no result.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Yeap, same here.

It might be an android sistem protection against rapid battery drain.

Can anyone shade a light on this matter?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
There is a tool in the market that works around this, I think it's called WiFi keep alive.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Thanks mate,

Will give it a try!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Audio out bug?

Another bug?

I had this problem: try to connect my phone thru the audio jack to a pair of portable speakers powered by USB... put some music... but no sound in the speakers, only from phone speaker! Also try to play music thru my home cinema but had same problem!

Is it only my phone to blame or is just another android bug or else...:confused:

HELP!

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oniock:
I have the same problem, but only with one set of speakers. Another and headphones works ok.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PMester:
marked dead

Can anyone use the market/google play?

When I start market, the google play turns in, i can see the licence, there is an Accept and a Decline button, but I can not press them. I can downlod the licence in browser, but there are not any button.

Any idea?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] justmechiry:
Google Play works for my. when I start market, same appear google play , and he doesn`t start first ! but after that i started again , and he works. Try to start for many times , I don`t know , but maybe works eventually.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
Yeah, first time had a accept dialog but it was still google market. Second time I opened it there was another accept dialog but this time it was the play market.

Works fine here.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
No problem here... you need to agree the terms of license first then everything will be ok.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
No succes with battery drain :(

I've done all of this, rooted the phone with superoneclick v 1.8 (thx to MadK9 for the tip), uninstalled Accuweather and all i thought i don't need, and still no success... battery lasts only 24 hours max, even i don't use wifi, bluetoooth or games.. just few calls (5 calls a day max) and that's all.

Anyone else here who can give some suggestions, tips and tricks to solve this problem?

Thx
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Same here... battery life is so low... my phone is only 6 months old but battery last 24-30 hours at most... no matter what settings I've tried.

Funny thing, this morning when I woke up, found the phone switched off... but before I went to bed, battery was about 45%, wifi off, 3g off... so what could had happened?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
Not sure what to tell you guys with the battery life issues. I still have the stock firmware that came with the phone, haven't updated it with the Alcatel tool, but the standby time is excellent.

Typically, if the phone is %100 when i go to sleep, it will be around 98% when I get up. This is with background data and cell data off and no widgets. You can also try turning off the backup to google option under privacy, I read that's a battery hog.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
Maybe just branded phones got problems?

@FormerSlacker: Do You have a branded phone from Wind (like Wind Move or smth) or it is original Alcatel OT-908?

Mine is T-Mobile Move, others here got Cosmote Move or Globul Move or smth... So, I'm just thinking that maybe there is a problem with the battery only on some branded phones because of custom apps that provider adds in the custpack/app folder... or some of the hardware components are different (it shouldn't be but who knows...)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oniock:
Any phones - I have non-branded.

I think that this situation will be fix with new update to Android 2.3. Something is wrong with actual update.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
I have the Wind branded version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Big question...

Had anyone noticed the dissapearance of any type of support for TCL Move from Alcatel??? This model does not appear anymore on any of the worldwide branches of Alcatel... only OT908 is present on some websites.

WHY???

Does this mean that we won't see any future updates and perhaps not even 2.3... for our mobiles???

Alcatel UK website only listed a few models... today (12.03.2012)... I downloaded from their support page my move upgrade file, now most of their mobiles are gone... only six models remains... something's cookin'???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
I noticed that too

Yes, I noticed that too and from the contact page of their global web site (http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/company/contactus.html) I wrote an angry letter in which I stated that no matter what (even we own branded devices), they should consider us as their respective customers too, because it is still Alcatel phone.

I haven't received any answer yet (and I doubt I will) but if all of you write them too, then maybe they will give some answer and clarify this situation.

Update: I've received an answer BUT: In the contact form there is a list of devices to choose from but there is no Alcatel Move so I choosed OT-908 but in the letter I wrote that my question is about Alcatel Move. Their answer is for OT-908 phone as they didn't read my letter at all as they saw the model OT-908 and they reply about it. Here is the reply i get:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RTrix:
Is any way to unlock this phone for any carrier?

(free one)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hotrider:
my phone is not locked.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
I'm confused, you sent an inquiry about the 908, got a reply concerning the 990? I have a OT-908s so what does this mean, no upgrades for us?

Personally, I wouln't have gotten this phone if it wasn't going to be upgraded to Gingerbread, not cool Alcatel. :mad:

Should have gone with the Nexus after all! :o
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
New reply

I've replied to their e-mail asking about the model of the phone and this is their answer:

I guess that OT-990 is very similar to OT-908 so in the first mail a got from them they put the link to OT-908 support/download page:

They posted new update for OT-908 as today! Yesterday the update number was Q 1.8.8 and today is Q 1.9.0

As far as I understand we should try to upgrade the Move phones with OT-908 upgrade... But first we should backup the stock rom just in case of upgrade failure. I'll give it a try to upgrade with OT-908 upgrade tool but first I have to make backup copy of the stock rom and i really don't know how

Anyone here can post instruction how to backup stock rom???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
Maybe you can backup your rom with Clockworkmod recovery manager?

The Canadian Alcatel site is still showing the old upgrade tool, 1.8.5.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
on their global web site

On their global web site there is Q 1.9.0 version. Here's the link:

http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/products/all_products/ot-908.html

I've installed Clockworkmod recovery manager but when I start it I get suggestion to choose my model but there is no Alcatel OT-908 in the list :confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Carrefull

Be very carrefull and think twice before applying the upgrade suggested by alcatel!

The layout of the 3 touch buttons is different at 908. So, applying the upgrade will mess up your controls!

I also wrote to alcatel... but the answer... seems to automatic, like it wasn't even read by a human... they should know the differences between their phone models, so why they recomend an upgrade that could damage your phone???

Think...

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Mine is locked to network... I bought it with a 24 months monthly contract... but I wish so bad too get it unlocked...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
Interesting, the layout for the buttons on mine is exactly as shown:

http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/products/all_products/ot-908.html

You saying the 908 updater will mess with this?

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I believe if you go back a couple of pages, you'll see there is a custom version of Clockwork for the ot 908.

I *think* this is it: http://blog.podtwo.com/android/recovery/ClockworkMod Recovery for Alcatel ot908.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
No success

I can confirm that Alcatel OT-908 upgrade Q 1.9.0 CAN NOT be installed on T-mobile Move.

It says that my phone already has the latest version available, and to check later.

No harm is done but we are still stuck with android version 2.2 (froyo) and everyday charging which is unacceptable for me.

I'm considering to get rid of this crap and buy some descent phone. There are many android phones available with 24 months contract for a little higher price (about 20Eur +)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SONHUD:
TRY www .alcatelonetouch.com/uk/support/download/move.html UPGRADE 1.5 > still 2.2 but BATERRY LIFE 2X
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
I've done it few weeks ago

I've done it few weeks ago, still the same one day battery life :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Of course you could buy a new phone a lot cheaper now but at the moment you bought this alcatel, those now cheaper phone were not so cheap. Am I right?

Android phones will be less expensive as months go by and major asian manufacturer as huawei, will bring newer phones on the market, android powered.

This is the future.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
there was similar priced huawei

Actually there was similar priced huawei U8180 (only 7Eur +) but since I read some user reviews that says it's battery doesn't last long :D I decided to buy Move.

What an irony uh? :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
It's probably some app. I once installed a weather widget and my excellent battery life went to %30 gone in 3 hours in standby.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Yeah, I'm affraid battery life is apps dependent... always an app will request more juice from the battery at some point. All running apps and widgets need juice to run and stay alert so when you need them they should provide a quick start and fast feedback at you input.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] V3R:
Yup, it probably depends on apps. Simple solution? uninstall some sh*t, which came with system. I got rid of at least 10 useless packages, now my battery life doesn't go below 3 days even with heavy usage, and no more prompts about low storage space (over 65MB of internal memory free). Of course some programs that I removed would be useful for someone, but if you don't use for example TTS service, why would you want to keep it on your low-budget move ;)?

Oh, and take a look of facebook app. If you don't need to check it all the time, it's probably better to avoid having this on our poor little androids. I haven't got any other app that slowed down my phone and at the same time was sucking so much juice :P

aarggh... still waiting for GB. :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SONHUD:
t-mobile still working on 2.3

Hi. Yesterday was wrote on czech t-mobile site: we end testitng 2.3 for move, but there was some errors, so we send it for repair. we specify lunch in next days. so its seems that 2.3 is posible:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobiavmkd:
great news

Great news! I just hope that it will be available for all Move phones (not just t-mobile's but other brands too)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Good news after all...

I wrote to alcatel support back after they assured me that upgrading Move with ot908 software is ok and wait for an answer...

Still, the layout of the three touch buttons is different! There's no way that the firmware will be similar... no way!

Menu button is situated on the left for ot908, Move has it centerred!!!

If I manage to update the Move with ot908 firmware/ software, when I touch the middle button I'll open the search menu instead the menu option, because ot908 has the search button in the center!!! This is in theory! And if someone will try, that someone will experience the same thing!

So why did Alcatel support not see this and keep insist that an upgrade with ot908 firmware is ok for move???

GB will be the answer... My friend, SONHUD, we all expect that you'll post it here for us to put in our phones!

Thanks in advance!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] profglavcho:
gingerbread comming at 25.03.2012
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Yupppiiii!!!!

3 days left...

WOWWWW...

We want it too, who will share?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FormerSlacker:
So would it be possible to install this hypothetical GB upgrade ourselves if our carrier doesn't push it for their phones?

I ask because Wind(Canada) seems to be awful about pushing updates, for example the LG Optimus 2x which is still on Froyo even though there has been a GB update released by LG for ages.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] profglavcho:
what`s wrong???

i have recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-ot908.img instlled,but in Recovery manager i can`t make backup of current firmware..error "you need to install a custom recovery before you can backup your firmware"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MadK9:
Chill man...

Hey, take it easy my friend, it's easier than you'd think!

From recovery manager options menu, choose "reboot recovery"!!!

It is the only way to back up your device!

You'll find there a menu with some usefull options. Be carrefull at every step, but if don't know what an option does, than don't use it, you are only interested in backin' up your phone so navigate to "back up and restore" option and then follow each step... you'll be done in no time! The back-up will be located on your sd card, in the clockwork folder.

Best of luck!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] profglavcho:
thank you...any idea where is backup of other mounted partitions(splash,misc,userdata,securo,studypara,tracability,tuningpara,FOTAFLAG,FOTA)?