yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Sneaky, whilst I am running v3.4 and not v3.5, I can state that the kernel is very good on battery. As I mentioned previously, I was only losing between 6-8 percent overnight on a full charge (with Google Maps disabled). I have since uninstalled Maps, cleared Dalvik and re-installed Maps and my overnight power loss on standby was 10 percent, which is more what I would expect as the Maps process is running in the background. No idea why, when I updated Maps previously, I lost 50 percent over the same period but it now appears stable. ;)

Edit: I should mention that when I checked what was draining my battery, Maps didn't seem to be the culprit but when I froze it, battery consumption went back to normal. Go figure!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vonstarr:
When checking you're power consumption don't just check Maps' direct consumption, check how many times it started in that period. I had an app once that did that. It didn't pull much power as a rule, but it ran the CPU ragged with resource requests.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Ok fine. But I stated that my standby is fine. I am talking about the drain while using the phone normally. That is higher than before.

Sent from my TBD Runny 3.5 themed
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Apologies, Sneaky, missed that comment. Anyway, all I can say is that battery drain in normal use for me is fine - no problems there on Marc's 0.1.9 kernel. ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
How do I delete my old ext4 backups?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DeeinSouthAfrica:
Agreed, 0.1.9 has been good for me too. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Method 1: Connect phone as mass storage, navigate to the folder \clockworkmod\backup and delete what you find (folders with dates) with Windows Explorer

Method 2: Shut down phone, take card out and insert into reader on pc. Find above mentioned folders, do the same.

Method 3: boot phone into recovery, toggle usb storage, connect to pc, navigate to above mentioned folders, do the same.

Hope i could help.

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Odd. I swear my battery drains A LOT faster when in use than it used to before. i was observing my phone again on a full work day today again. But as i said, i will have to do a clean install to determine if it makes any difference.

Something else i noticed: sudden phone lock-ups. Freezes. There is two theories availble to explain them. Number one being bad blocks, number two being loose cpu/bga soldering balls from frequent overheating.

One fact speaking for the latter is that the lock-ups occur when phone is heavily used and hot.

My old phone never had that. My new phone has bad blocks, one in the Radio or SPL part of the ROM, two in the android section. Also, there is no way to tell how much it has been overclocked, overheated before.

Before i am going for either one of the theories and begin hunting for solutions or dumping it completely i'd like to ask here if anyone else was suffering from Lock-ups since installing 3.5 and/or the new kernel. Anyone?

Thanks.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Sneaky, I have had no lockups on 3.4 with 0.1.9 if that is any help. In fact, I haven't needed to do anything with 3.4 since I installed it - seriously solid! Sorry I can't help with 3.5. ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] chrisrj28:
@sneaky

Just to add another voice to the pot, 0.1.9 has been great for me as well. After installing the biggest difference for me is the notification bar. Previously when dropping down there was always a lag for me but not it drops right away. My sleep drain has been 2-5mA

Hopefully your issue gets sorted
[HD2 Android NAND Development] b666:
Dansta, the problem with the sensor (proximity) during a call, I found an interesting fact! When the screen during calls to turn around a large light source (sun, some light), so my screen lights up and I end the call correctly. When I close a larger light source, so I have to wait until the other party ends the call and so can I end the call on my phone ...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dunc001:
Method 4 - install 4ext Control from market, support the dev, and do it all easily from the app :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vonstarr:
Yes, I noticed this a few times since installing 3.5, but before installing Marc's 1.9.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dude0316:
I'm running ver 3.4 stock on two hd2s both are tmous running EU setup one has the 1.8 kernel (wife's) the other has the 1.9 kernel (mine) and my phone is lasting about 5 hours longer. I have no clue why you are experiencing shorter battery life. Really wish I could help with this one. Cheers
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Kameirus:
ok i installed marcs new kernal and when i booted up all my settings and widgets are gone that i had setup before i installed the kernal

anyone have any clue as to why that happened
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
I'm not sure I've had another freeze since flashing 0.1.9 kernel. The Battery? I begin to think it might either be subjective observation and not fact or just a bad flash. Thank you guys for all the answers. I might find time to MTTY the phone and flash a stock winmo on Sunday or Monday and see if that makes the lockups go away and also see if it makes a difference in battery terms.

I did a lot of reading on MTTY last night and I will re-write my guide with more solid info.

One thing I found out is about task 2a, the one that possibly bricked my phone. I'm sure u guys will like the text. It'll be useful :D

Of to work now...

Sent from my TBD Runny 3.5 themed
[HD2 Android NAND Development] liehuo:
Battery drain seems to be quite bad for on marc kernel 0.1.9. Battery drain during sleep was 168ma. When I reverted back to 0.1.7, battery drain during standby decreased to 2-5ma. I guess it is really dependent on what you are running on your ROM. By the way I am on v3.5 stock sdext.

So I suggest trying the different marc kernel and stick to what you find is the best for you. So far, I am a extremely satisfied user of TBD V3.5 with marc kernel 0.1.7. My hd2 is as good as any android device.out there. Or maybe better.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dunc001:
Could it be that everyone is beginning to have battery issues because your phones are now over two years old and you've been abusing them for most of that time... ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
Remove maps and use locations you get 14 hours + battery life
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theslam08:
Good point, batteries do only last so many charges. Ive also read that charging the battery after its fully charged degrades the lifetime of it.

Probably try different roms, more stable kernels/roms and test your battery life that way. Or use WM for a day. See how long your battery should really last. If its still quick in WM, I would assume a new bat is in order. otherwise it was the rom/kernel or rom setup (apps). Many variables.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
Where's the HTC Sense stock widgets in ROM version 3.5..?

After a few days trying Nexus HD2 ICS CM9 I'm back here. I did a new fresh install of version 3.5 stock on my HD2 EU. Partition 7/185/7, EXT4 1024 Mb, no swap. Phone feels fast and smoth (again). Will report back on battery drain.

Question: I want to add some HTC Sense stock widgets (calendar, email, friendstream etc). When I try to browse through HTC widgets in the phone there's only two of them.

Is the stock Sense widgets removed from this version? Anybody with a flashable zip for me?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Quite possible but not to be expected from one day to the next. The closest thing to what you are suggesting i ever had was my old Siemens Handset which went well for years on the same battery but because i hardly ever used the landline it always sat on its station. When my wife moved in she started using it and it died some month ago a sudden battery death as it got deep-de-charged (well, someone in my house likes killing phones). That abusive use was too much for it so it died. But for my Mobile, i am still using the Battery from the old phone which is two years old and still good and i don't actually think it would suddenly change the Time it lasts. It would possibly die very suddenly (common for this technology) but not suddenly last shorter. either a slow curve or sudden death. The decrease in usage time with the 0.1.9 Kernel is obvious and Dan reckons 0.1.5 being the best, some say 0.1.7 is good. there is a strong indication by now that the drain could well be due to the kernel used. Not the Maps only. Not the Battery only. Maybe all of it a little bit.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
I have perfect drain 2-8mA - more than 40 hours between chargings ...

I am always flashing clean (task 29, formating SD, instaling fresh apps - without apps backuping - restoring), using battery calibrator. The first thing I do after flash is to remove all Faceebook apps and services. My battery is 2 years old. I am using 3g only when I need fast data conection...

Only complain after flashing new kernel is flashlight does not work...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Hmmm.... wasn't there a funny comment on our Name Kliko? :D Somebody musta been reporting that one since its gone... You know mate, your name screams for being made fun of...

Sorry mate just joking i'll not say anything ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DeeinSouthAfrica:
I did - humour only stretches so far, and a personal attack is against the rules.

Right, roll up sleeves, will I manage to finish my game before Dan et al release the new improved rom? No matter how hard I try, I cannot save my progress on Abduction World Attack and once I flash something new I have to start all over again.

I know mindless stuff, but it keeps me from sleeping on the train and missing my stop. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
It's my nick since childhood. I am using it to be recognizeble for some of my friends, and ofcourse for fun to. I didn't report that comment. You know, here we use to say: you don't have to look for a fool - pops itself!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
You're a good and decent person Dee. I have a lot of respect for you. I think you are one of the few here that i have never seen uttering any questionable thing. You seem to be a very correct soul. God bless you mate. It makes me feel primitive at times :D

I have had various contacts to south african people, from all colours. I must say they all had one thing in common: they where aggressive and arrogant, some even really racist. All of them and that was a few. You seem to be very different. Good to see that. It gives your country a better image in my eyes :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
I am trying to get ICS on ad SD throught Mahler but it only sees the ext4 partition
[HD2 Android NAND Development] chrisrj28:
Do you backup your apps? Mybackup will backup the app and data so when you restore it should have you where you left off.

Are you putting the sd files in the ICS folder on your sdcard? Then you have to go through magldr and select your sd boot source.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] eddyedwards007:
I commented that it was rude and my post has disappeared?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
Done that magldr only shows random file names from ext4
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mandrakur:
Hi,

Is there a chance to see 4ext recovery touch for our hd2?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Currently the HD2 Recovery Kernel is lacking the touch drivers. So it needs to be done and at some point someone might be doing it but until then...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] chrisrj28:
Ok so please explain what you have done step by step so far
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
I have downloaded ICS Rom and savedon desktop

With nand android running I connected to USB mass storage

Created a folder on SD card called "ics" and dropped Rom in there

Rebooted phone and selected services then ad SD sir and it only shows random characters for all the options

I tryied the same methods on my freinds card with no ext4 and it worked fine...

Partitions where made by ext4 if it helps,

Thanks mate I appreciate your help
[HD2 Android NAND Development] chrisrj28:
No problem, just trying to figure out the issue. Having an ext4 partition shouldn't make a difference, so in magldr you selected services/boot settings/AD SD Dir correct? And that is the point where you are seeing the weird symbols? Don't mean to be repetitive just trying to get a clear idea.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] alex.odell.2011:
Yes mate all the options like this?!?

Should I try copying Rom through ext mass storage?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mandrakur:
Thanks for answer,

Then we wait, or maybe someone make, not full touch 4ext ,only touch that 4 hardware keys like cwm touch beta I guess it is easier.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] chrisrj28:
Hm then there appears to be an issue with the Magldr browser if it's looking in the ext partition (which I didn't know was possible) and not the fat32.

But as for copying the rom through recovery, it should not make a difference as that should not affect you browsing which folder to boot AD SD from. Normally when you go to that option it will give you a list of all the folders on your sd and then allow you to select the correct one but yours a weird issue.

Tried formatting your sdcard?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tester30:
Bloatware

Hi, Dansta.

I'm still on version 2.3. Using as every day ROM.

Have a question thou, is there a way to disable bloatware as Facebook, FM Radio, Slacker....etc... Until I select to use them. What I really mean when I run Task Killer those aps always there. Went through Settings-> Applications and there is nothing to disable them or uninstall (just an option to clear data or stop the app). But even after stopping it, it pops up on the next phone activation (power button press).

All I try to do is to get more life out of the battery by cutting off the apps I do not use or can access by other means.

Thanks, mate.

P.S. Maybe you have some controls like that in your newer versions?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dipaolnv:
What about this one?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1419733

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Tester....

For facebook, go into Settings -> Accounts and disable all sync options. That will help your battery tremendously.

For FM radio and other apps that you don't use, download ES file explorer, enable root mode, and delete the apk.

Also, I'd recommend you upgrade to the latest and greatest, which is currently 3.5. You'll need an sd-ext partition.

Oh, turn off your auto-brightness for your display settings and select a brightness (around 30%) that is tolerable.

Just a few thoughts...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mandrakur:
THANKS but have that cwm recovery with some nice themes(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22099203#post22099203). I thought 4ext with touch buttons will be better.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dipaolnv:
Ah, okay... my bad.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tester30:
Thanks, bud.

I do run brightness at around 50%.

Then I will use Root Explorer to delete APKs, just wasn't sure if that will affect other features.

With SD-ext.... that brings another question, do I really need it, since I have T-Mo HD2 with 1024 MB of memory. By the way, recently noticed that the ROM shows only 512 MB, although I chose T-Mo version during initial install. Is it a bug? Only in, I believe Titanium Backup it shows correct memory size.

And of course I will update to 3.5....Been lazy lately...LOL

Really appreciate your tips.

Tester.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] wry007:
After updattin TBD roms screen appears and it hangs what the prob please any help
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
@Tester30

You don't have to.

Please just use Titanium Backup Pro to freeze/unfreeze.

It has the option. Why not use it. U can always get the app back to working state like that without having to go through the Install/Uninstall process.

@all

i just read on the Titanium Backup 4.8.0 Changelog that the Author fixed an SQLite-related bug that caused apps lose the right permissions and FC afterwards when Titanium was accessing them.

So, this might ALSO have been an issue in regards to FC of apps in the past that we didn't know of. Would be hard to trace who used Titanium and had FC's but maybe THAT is gone now :D

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Unfortunately you will have to provide more Info for us to help you. Like this we don't know what phone layout you are on, whether or not you are using an EXT, what step you have done, if you really tried to update or if you did a fresh install. If you updated, then how did you try it. If you did a "fresh" install then how did u attempt to do it...

There is various possible reasons you could get stuck at Boottime. The most common one is you chose a wrong Partition size for the NAND and the second most common is you forgot the EXT or didn't make it big enough.

If you did everything right and followed e.g my guide (signature, hint hint) then you might just need to clean your phone (guide in signature hint hint) and start over as sometimes it can also be the kernel that doesn't want to boot and then a new attempt at installing helps.

In my FAQ document is a Template for a signature for you where you can put the most basic information about your phone and soft so it always appears in every post of you and you don't have to tell people each time.

I am off to work now will only be back tonight european time. Can't help you any further today. But PLEASE check my docs. There is many answers there.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
Could one of you other guys just check if you have all the widgets (approx 90) in the HTC section of widgets? Check by add widget on screen, select widget, select HTC widgets. Do this list only show two widgets or more (how many)?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
86

you had bad flash or your zip is damaged. Redownload or use torrent from Sneakys HD2 folder.

Dansta should upload new version in day or two, maybe it's better to wait for it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DeeinSouthAfrica:
You actually counted them? LOL :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
Ok, thanx. I'll do a fresh flash again with a new download of rom.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
one by one :D:D:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
:D

When in "add widget" screen click on first line saying "search all htc widgets" which gives u an overview of all HTC WIdgets including a little number somewhere hidden (go looky looky its easter soon) that tells you the exact amount.

I got 83 and that is because i got rid of some very annoying ones (stock... i never got who could possibly be interested in stock markets as everyone knows that is THE EVIL itself :D )
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kliko kliktoris:
I had been working in technical support some time, you backed me there for a sec. What a horror.... :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sugocy:
Im still trying to understand Daemon Controller, Im playing with nr's like crazy but Ive got no idea what is safe for my phone XD

What I thought:

OCD Wake sets min and max awake frequencies, Governer is architecture which handles these settings?

Same for OCD while asleep...

CPUfreq: DELETED

EDIT: Does the same but with a preset for wake and asleep values XD On that note: where can I find descriptions about the governers?

Some help in the right direction would be appreciated, already searched but could not find anything on the TBD pages.

Thanks in advance,

Sugocy
[HD2 Android NAND Development] SagaPer:
Thanx. After a new flash I could see all the HTC widgets. I then did an advanced data recovery via cwm and the widgets was gone (except for two). So I flashed over again and used my backup from MyBackup to recover apps and data. All is ok now.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sneakyghost:
Without wanting to sound blunt but did you read and search through the thread? because i just answered that very question not too long ago.

SetCPU has decent information on the governors on their own pages here: http://www.setcpu.com/ - go to chapter 7, there it has Info on the most common governors which already gives you a good idea.

Then further documentation can probably found on WikiPedia. I remember reading stuff there.

Then another page would be this one for example: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=843406

which i found using a quick google search on "android cpu governors"

and then it is good to know that some governors need to be controlled by a deamon so the scaling is actually done by the deamon and the way it is done controlled by the governor, but then there is also governors that include scaling profiles (e.g. a Display-Off profile) so you would not need a Deamon!

In the Kernel from Marc it is only SmartAss V2 which has this built-in scaling. If you want to use that one, it is very advisable to not set anything on the first page of the Deamon Control App ("OCD") but go to the second "CPUfreq" page where you select that governor and tell it the scaling range. You cannot use both pages at the same time.

For SetCPU this would mean operation without setting profiles, just select the Governor.

As this is the second time this has been asked i will add a section to the FAQ pages now.

Thanks for bringing it up.

[EDIT]

Did a quick Q&A in my FAQ pages regarding the Governors. If anyone has ideas on how to improve: be my guest, as usual.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sugocy:
Thanks for the fast respons!:)

I did found some posts of you regarding this topic;) Unfortunately not the post you refer to, did go 10 pages back...well oops:p

Nice! My assumptions were not totally wrong. One thing though, will the governer also control safety regarding OC? Or in other words, the maximum frequency set will not be used so much my CPU starts glowing red...?

What is your setting on 3.5 if you dont mind sharing? You all are using it a lot more than I do XD

:)