yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
By CWM, you mean "Rom Manager" ? Rom Manager is dangerous and useless for the Galaxy 551 ...

For keyboard, in the downloads, we have qwerty.kl ... try it !

EDIT: Last build still doesn't work for me. I get a black screen after ANDROID screen ... (Froyo Bootloader)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
I released new build. Snapshot channel is temporary closed.

https://spideroak.com/browse/share/SamsungCallisto/bootloader

PLEASE READ INFO AND CHANGELOG BEFORE YOU ASK ANY QUESTION OR DO BUG REPORT!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Thanks, but where we can find a 2.3.6 ROM for Galaxy 551 ?!
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
Check this lazy man
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I have found it, but it's a polish rom. I can keep my network with it ?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
If you have 2.3.4 you can stay with it. This rom is for gsm, so it shouldn`t break your radio. If your apn settings will be missing you can add them manually.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Ok, thanks. I will do it with 2.3.4 rom ;).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Ziada:
New Gignerbread Snapshot

Thanks man for all your efforts to make our life easier,

the new gingerbread snapshot works like a charm

but ...

There is a lot of cashes in different programs .. may be it only needs to upgrade

another issue is about cyanogen performance settings where I can't find any clock modes in the 2 list (min & max)

everything else work fine : Bluetooth, WiFi, Rotation, Headphone, keyboard, even proximity sensor, I didn't test GPS yet

But thanks
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Your new snapshot is so amazing ! Thanks, thanks, thanks ! I havn't bugs, all works fine and it's just perfect !

You're make an awesome and very good work ... :D

EDIT: Just a little problem ... We don't have market. Could you make an APK ?

EDIT2: Oh, we don't have any gestion of google accounts :/. It stay a good rom ;)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
Install gapps via cwm. They are easy to find via google.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I have find it, I will try ...

EDIT: Works fine, thanks !

EDIT2: Oh, some problems : Videos not working (White screen in Youtube and Videos App), Vibrator not working (even if I change settings), calls will be mute after some seconds ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
Did you read changelog?

I'm fixing libril/telephony bug.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I know, but it's not fixed for me ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
Fix for libril will be in next release!
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Ok, thanks for your reply.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
HOTFIX for calling, fix available on spideroak

Download and push rild to /system/bin/.

adb shell rild /system/bin/
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] FraBle:
Spideroak is empty :(
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Not anymore ;). I will test the fix, thanks !

EDIT: It doesn't work. My phone doesn't ask SIM Code. I have put "adb push rild /system/bin/" instead of "adb shell rild /system/bin/". It is en error ? With shell, the prompt said "Permission denied" :/.

EDIT2: Reflash and put the file with Terminal Emulator. Work's fine, thanks !
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] FraBle:
do you have replaced the rild file in /system/bin/ with terminal emulator with push command or shell command?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
It's fixed with Terminal Emulator ;).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Torreip:
I guess there was a rights problem after the push. The file should have 755 rights I think. If it fails after the push, try to change its rights.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] FraBle:
First "adb push rild /system/bin/" and then CHMOD to 755?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
Just asking, Willingmagic, after finishing your work with this rom, are you going to try to port Android Ice Cream Sandwich to the Galaxy 551?. I am asking because I saw a that someone made a port for the HTC G1 (T-Mobile G1) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19648827 , and it has a slower cpu and less ram that the 551. I am new to this, but I think those are the things that are needed to be taken into account for knowing if android 4.0 would work on the GT-I5510 smartphone. Thanks!.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Google have said : All gingerbreads phones can have Ice Cream Sandwich ;).

It's possible ;).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
I've read also that Google said that all the phones launched before 18 months of the launch of Android ICS, will be upgraded to it. So, if I am not incorrect, this phone was launched on october 2010 I think. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Yeah, I will wait ... If ICS will released to G551, it will be amazing ! =)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
Is Touchwiz present in this mod?, if not, it is possible to install it?.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
He isn't present, but it's possible to install it. Search touchwiz3_rolle.apk on google, it works fine ;)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Ziada:
Camera and Video

With the last gingerbread bootloader snapshot, The Camera is not functioning well and video streaming also ...

And there are a lot of crashes with various software ???

Will it be another snapshot soon ?

Another issue: GPS is taking too long to sync with satellites ?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
This problems are already reported. Just wait for a new snapshot ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] ferreinf:
Ok got my phone back from repair...

So installed CWM and latest snapshot beside known issues, everything is running fine so far, props MAGIC MAN :D
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Ziada:
Waiting, hope to be soon
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
I've found this article,

http://groups.google.com/group/andr.../db9fd65f0497162b?show_docid=db9fd65f0497162b

I know that in the SDK, Android 4.0 only can be emulated through ARMv7, and Gingerbread also, acording to this article. Our Galaxy 551 has an ARMv6 cpu, so, I was wondering, how the Cyangenmod 7 mod can run on the galaxy 551?

Or am I wrong on something?.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Ziada:
FM Radio

Hi..

When I plug headset into my phone to switch on the phone, it tries to switch on bluetooth automatically !! I wondering why ?

Any way, the bluetooth switched on and the radio started but ... the volume HW button can not adjust volume level of the radio ???

Add this for the next snapshot .

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] ToJa92:
That implies Samsung makes a firmware update. Considering the (probable) low usage of the I-5510, I'm guessing there will be no ICS. Also, Willing said that ICS(initially, at least) does not support ARMv6 anyway IIRC.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
AOSP ICS 4.0 doesn`t support armv6 via default. I got fix for support armv6-vfp, but still I need fix bug with android subtitle and flickering.

Ziada

Bluetooth is activated automatically only when you use build-in radio.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
@ToJa92 : Smasung have signed a paper with Google. They MUST update I5510 to ICS ;).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] ferreinf:
Must?

been reading about it, Galaxy S, for example isn´t getting the update, so why would they update I551 ??

Hope WillingMagic can make a usable port :D:D

---------- Post added at 10:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:59 PM ----------

count me in for Alpha/beta testing.... :D :D
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
If phone hasn't right composants for support with ICS, it will be not updated, but i5510 can have ICS, Samsung must update, just wait !
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
If Samsung updates to 4.0, maybe it will be only for europeans, like gingerbread :(

So, according to what Willingmagic said, he is working already on porting ICS, that would be awesome!. If I knew something about porting, I would have helped!.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Maybe Willing makes a portage of CM8 for i5510 ... ;)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
CM8 is only for the Honeycomb os, but since google never released its source code, in CM9 they are focusing, which is based on Android 4.0 :)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
I'm preparing two builds with different ril* binaries. It may fix problem.

For people how wait for screen issue fix, rewritten driver for screen and touchscreen will be included in ICS build.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
You will make an ICS build ?!! :eek: :D
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
Thats good to hear!, I'm glad that you are working on a ICS build, hope it works flawlessly, on the G1 they said that it runs slowly. For me, with LBE Privacy Guard, Webroot Secure Anywhere and PerfectApp App Protector running all the time, froyo runs quite well, hope will be the same with the ics rom. Thanks again WillingMagic!.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] anasahmad17:
wow!

Are u gonna release ICS on Cyanogen Platform or the Android defualt?

i guess you should merge ICS with Cyanogen.

All in all thanx..

And if you want beta testers i can do it..

Can there be a definite date for the release Willings?

like give us some date until we should wait...

Thanks a lot!
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
what works and what not in build now?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Just read ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
where i can read?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
In other pages of this topic !

EDIT: Any news from WillingMagic ? Members of French Forums are impatients ^^.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
We waiting ICS alfa build
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
The thing that I want to know is why XDA doesnt want to create a subforum for our phone???. I dont think it is too hard to do it, and if they "dont have space" in the main forums, they can just move to the legacy section. Even on the phandroid android forums, they have a subforum for the 551!!.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I agree. A section for i5510 will be very great.

And I've see two new snapshots. What's new ?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
Yo!

Now i have android 2.3.4

If i want install CM7, i must update my phone to 2.3.6 version?

Next i must install CWM and update my phone to CM(update-cm-GB-7.1.0-WILLING-Snapshot-20111212.zip)? Or something else?

thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
ICS don`t have working correct touchscreen driver. It need rewrite, so I decide to slowly move to kernel 3.0.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
sucks....

but i have hope! you will do it!!!
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
What's new in the snapshot from the 2011.12.12 ?

EDIT: I have test, and video works (Yeah !) but I have lost 3G network ... And calls still buggys.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Spartan Legionnaire:
How do you installed Gingerbread?, through Kies?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
You can use CM with 2.3.4. It has worked for me.

New feedback : Sensors are not working too :(.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Torreip:
I updated with update-cm-GB-7.1.0-WILLING-Snapshot-20111212.zip through CWM and then flashed GB_KERNEL.PDA.tar from Snapshot-20111120.

Phone booted with no problem, but I have never been asked my SIM PIN number and it was not able to access the network.

Either it seemed ok (camera works, even if the view is rotated by 90 degrees during preview, it takes good shots)

Used update.zip to go back to 20111120 and network was back.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
12Dec build is based on 2.3.4 so it can work incorrectly with 2.3.6 baseband
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I havn't 3G Connexion, is it normal, or because of the baseband ? I'm never be on 2.3.6 ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17826911&postcount=2

and

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20356262&postcount=46
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] vipul955:
call doesnt work
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
We know ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] devilex94:
buddies I have have not followed this blog from couple of month due to some reasons.

Hence I dont know how to install cyanogen on 2.3.6

please guide me from step 1.:)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] darkangel27:
Hello John the guide for flashing CM7 exist in google group and spideroak,but may be here is the how to flash CM7

*flash CWM as one package in odin

*put CM7 file in sdcard(there is several types of CWM based on GB 2.3.4 and 2.3.6. If you are planning using stock 2.3.6 its better that you choose snapshoot 20111204,you can find download link in google group,but the stable version i known is 20111201,which based on 2.3.4 if i am not wrong :D)

*go to recovery and chioose instal zip from sdcard

*reboot,you will stuck so pull your battery and go to download mode

*flash the kernel

*now your phone running CM7

All file you needed available on spideroak

Sorry for my bad english
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
update-cm-GB-7.1.0-WILLING-Snapshot-20111212.zip is based on 2.3.4 or 2.3.6 ?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] darkevilmagic:
it is based on 2.3.4
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] devilex94:
Just 1 more que

are the "update.........zip" are roms or are updates for the rom.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Ok, thanks. How I can see if a release is based on 2.3.4 or 2.3.6 ?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] darkangel27:
Its a gingerbread [porting] rom
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
Can anyone please tell me what is the best thing to do right now..stay on 2.2 or upgrade to 2.3....

And either way,can you please give me step by step instruction for cm7 on 2.2 or 2.3....i am a total noob in this scene..would really appreciate for your help..:)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
If you're a total noob, experimental builds are not for you.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
what's new about ics?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
hey RL77LUC i know that..i m just trying to learn..atleast you can advice me to whether stay on 2.2 or upgrade to 2.3..??
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
upgrade to 2.3....
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Just download a 2.3.6 ROM and flash with Odin. It's easy and quite safe.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
Thank you very much RL77LUC and Qret....xda people are seriouly helpful...:)
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
No problem. If you need more help, ask me ;).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
Hey i flashed to 2.3.6 quite easily...and i found out that the best stable rom available now for this phone is arkas 1.5 einherjar....its really good..atleast now that cm7 is still in developing stage arkas 1.5 is the best....i have been using it and still now no bugs....Happy with it...and flashing arkas 1.5 is also easy...just like flashing 2.3.6....

:D
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
can u tell me how to change the theme of the notification bar ..like i said i have arkas 1.5 and rooted phone ofcourse...2.3.6....
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Some roms are flashable by Odin. Only CWM is flashable by Recovery because it's easier and safier than a flash with Odin ;).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] vipul955:
any update for ics ?? or fix for call?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
how to mod the notification bar..like to make it transparent or coloured etc....??
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Look at UOT Kitchen (tutos here, just search), but you need a Deodexed Rom (Arkas/Perseus/CyanogenMod or any other custom rom).
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Dave 94:
yeah..i have arkas...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Just look at UOT Kitchen tutorials.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
New build is released on spideroak.

Updates in libaudio and libril(builded from source). It may fix call bug.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Torreip:
Nice !

I guess it is based on 2.3.4 ?

Edit: I apparently have network with my 2.3.6 baseband. 2.3.7 according to phone !

Edit2: I can hear people but they cannot hear me. I think everything is fine when using bluetooth kit.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] :
No last build use libs from latest 2.3.6.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] darkevilmagic:
is call fixed??

i tried but whenever battery is low

the same problem occurs
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
Sensors and call are not working. Same resultats than the 12/12 build. I stay in my 20/11 build ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] vipul955:
call and headphones work in that build

you using which basband for that

2.3.6 xeo or something else?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I use I5510XXKPF Baseband.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] vipul955:
call works fine?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I don't know, I havn't tried. I try today ...
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] vipul955:
i am talking about the old build 2011 one?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I'm talking about the 20111223 snap.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] vipul955:
u said you on 2011

so dats why want to ask

what is working on that build
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Torreip:
AZERTY keyboard

AZERTY keyboard files for CM rom.

In "keychars" dir, only "callisto_keypad0.kcm.bin" needs to be changed, no idea what the other files are used for.

In "keylayout", I changed both "qwerty.kl" and "sec_keypad.kl", no idea which one is actually used.

The original directories are in /system/usr/.

This has only be tested by me on my own g551 (CM snapshot 20111120 + didy's patch), use at your own risk and better save original files before.

The only thing I could not figure out is how to have the ".com" again...

More details: latest GB roms from "la poste", "NRJ" and "Bouyges" seem to have qwerty layouts (had a look at the files in the roms, I did not flash to check). bin layout from froyo does not work.

If you want to edit your own layout: the files in "keylayout" are easy to change, you are linking a key number (that you can get from advanced options in Willing's CWM recovery) to a letter name. The bin file in "keychars" has to be edited with a hex editor to have then the good "alt" key.
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I have a full functionnal AZERTY keyboard : https://spideroak.com/share/JVXWE2L...51/Share/Claviers CyanogenMod/CyanogenMod.zip

Works on all snapshots !
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] Qret:
to WillingMagic

whats new about ics or unofficial CM9?
[Samsung Galaxy 551 Callisto] RL77LUC:
I can't receive call (no prompts). And if I make a call to an other phone, he can't ear me ... But I can ear her. :/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsc15:
Hi everyone, as the title states, I'm trying to determine which kernel would be best for me. I'm currently using salvage mod 1.4 rom, and I love it, but my battery drains a little faster than I would like. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lacedaemon:
Try a Tiamat or Savage-Zen kernel because they can both work with vipermod and V6 Supercharger.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daphenomvic:
Tiamat 3.3.7

and dont forget when flashing a new rom to recalibrate your battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gorillajuice:
tiamat 4.0.8
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsc15:
Thanks for the tips! I think ill give the Tiamat 3.37 a shot later. Noob question, but what is entailed in calibrating the battery. And do I flash kernels the same way as roms? Thanks for the help!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
You calibrate it by following some steps with a series of plugging and unplugging the phone to get it to true 100%. You can use an external charger to avoid all the crazy steps.

Once it's 100%, go to recovery and wipe battery stats and that's it.

World peace with no regard for human life.
[General Questions and Answers] tolktwenty:
My girlfriend has a HTC Wildfire that she has had for some time. We want to install Cyanogenmod on it because she has been having some problems with the stock ROM. Unfortunately (not being very techy) she has managed to make a complete mess of her contacts in HTC's "People" app. Most are stored on the phone, some on the SIM, some on Google and then the rest are Facebook for HTC contacts. Is there an easy way to unify all these contacts as I would like to back them up before rooting and installing CM on the phone?

Ideally I would just like to make them all google contacts so that if she changes from HTC in the future we don't have an issue getting the contacts off again.

Many thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] srle.srki:
try pim backup
[General Questions and Answers] L8nite4tune:
I had this to on a HTC Legend from my last workplace. I also used exchange to syncronize job mail etc. Some contacts merged without my doing and turned out complete fail.

My resort was to arrange all my contact as i wanted them on my gmail account through my PC and only allowing facebook syncronize the existing contacts. I also stripped the syncronizing with exchange to only download e-mails.

Now I have a working system that automaticly functions even on the new phone I bought when I quit my job.

//M8 L8

Mobile Device: HTC Sensation Z715E[1.188 Ghz]

Rom: Android Revolution HD 4.1.0

Kernel: stock [2.6.35.13-gc35910f]

Radio:10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2
[HTC EVO 3D] johnequickiii:
Would you switch to it from your 3D, or would you stay with your shooter?

I myself would switch to the 4G+. While the 3D camera is cool and all, it doesn't seem to allow for Image Stabilization or time stamp on image in the 2D camera on account of compatibility issues. Also, I've had a 5MP camera on my Hero WITH Image Stabilize and the time stamp on image features, and would love my next phone to have a better camera. 8MP and 1080 video sounds nice, and if all of the specs are the same as the 3D, then I think I'm there.

What do you all think? 3D or 4G+?
[HTC EVO 3D] madmax2k1:
These posts are getting really lame; maybe they should create a "Migrage from EVO 3D" forum with all these whiny users.
[HTC EVO 3D] JohnM:
The evo 3D and 4G+ sound like the exact same thing. Switching from the Evo 4G to the 3D is at least somewhat understandable for those who need the better specs, but wasting 600 dollars on something that is not really different from your phone is a terrible idea. Also, the 4G+ sounds like it will be on Verizon.
[HTC EVO 3D] cajones42:
The 3d is htcs best phone. So the evo+ will be a downgrade. Prob more like the sensation since they wouldnt make the 3d second best
[HTC EVO 3D] rockypr:
The EVO + only diferences are in the Camera, the 3D with 5megapixels and the + Without the 3D but with an 8 megapixels

All the other Specs are the same...
[HTC EVO 3D] knowledge561:
Motorola Razr

#SWAG!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] ktrotter11:
Won't be an EVO+ just hero 4g
[HTC EVO 3D] thizzlemania91:
Theres a new evo coming out? Weres the source To this i gotta check this out.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I was just checking out the specs on Evo 3D+. Now THAT phone looked badass.

Sent from the CMheaven powered 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Another thread about switching to another phone. Shocking.....
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Megapixels really don't mean much. The og evo had an 8mp camera and it's pics were inferior to the camera in the 3d. The 5mp camera in the og epic took better pics than the 8mp camera in the og evo. If it has the same camera as the mt4g then it well have a good camera for a phone.

Sent from CM7.1 shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] Blade92:
Oh be quiet...its just a question
[HTC EVO 3D] johnequickiii:
Dude, if you don't have anything constructive to say, or an opinion relating to what the topic is about, please don't "whine" about it. Just don't say anything. Spare us your demeaning comments.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnequickiii:
But anywho... ^^;

From what I read, the phones are supposed to be exactly the same, sans the camera. I agree, the camera is pretty nice on the 3D, but I am missing the features of a non 3D camera, (I mentioned the features didn't seem to be stable with the 3D feature).

Just curious about whether yall would stay with the 3D camera if you were given a choice.

Who knows, maybe by the time my upgrade comes around again there'll be something even better. lol