yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xmeatizmurderx:
Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.

Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Kediil:
I came across XDA by typing 'sidekick 4g lag fix' into google, obviously because I was experiencing lag and was hoping for a fix. One of XDA's threads was the first thing listed and people here seemed to know what they were doing and talking about here. I did spend quite a lot of time searching. I would gladly take full fault for posting something unneeded if anyone would but show me a link to a full, step by step, easy to follow guide. *shrugs* I'll eat my words if there is one.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] avelis26:
I need help

So I'm trying to run a custom rom on my new SK4g but no matter what I do, I keep softbricking it... just gets stuck on the sidekick logo during boot. I've followed this guide STEP BY STEP a few times and with different roms, same result. After the rom install is complete I confirm the mounts are correct and then reboot to system but it never gets to system. I end up having to start over from stock via ODIN

HELP HELP HELP... what am I doing wrong. The only POSSIBLE thing I can think of is when it comes time to overwrite the recovery binary, I use adb shell and mount the system with:

# mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p25 /system

then I copy the file with:

# cp -f /mnt/sdcard/recovery /system/bin/

# reboot recovery

please someone help me and tell me what im doing wrong :(
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
not too sure what's wrong, but if you are flashing ROMs, you probably are getting into ClockworkMod properly. are you checking your mounts BEFORE you install the ROM as well as after?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dw9906:
Wow, your a real ass. I think this guide is probably the best one here. Very clean and very thorough. Its not people like him that cause developers to leave. Its people like you with no respect and a big attitude. And a HUGE head!!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] jteichma:
Thanks so much for this post :-)

Thanks for explaining in layman's terms how to do this. It is very helpful for me and I too had trouble making sense of the other how-to posts. With something as sensitive as flashing hardware it is really important for a novice to clearly understand the steps. I for one really appreciate and applaud your efforts Kediil and Yogi2010!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
I'm glad that this has helped some people! I know for those that have been around here a while, it is basically the same thing we already know, but I do think this guide was very clearly written, and is helpful to those who are completely new to this and don't have any idea where to start, and just want to get their phones rooted and modded. kudos to kediil for the great write-up!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] JayNycWepa:
I get mad everytime i try to do this because whenever i try to reinstall the packages it just says failed to verify whole signature or whatever then it aborts it , help me please , im tired of this **** ass stock rom
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
It sounds like the modified recovery didn't get properly moved into system/bin. Have you followed the steps and pasted the recovery file you downloaded into system/bin, replacing the recovery file that was already there?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xmeatizmurderx:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1206991

Like I said, SEARCH BEFORE POSTING

It took me all of 10 seconds to find this, it's on the second page of the development section and there are only 4 pages. It took you far longer to type this up than it would have to search.

The reason we don't have stickies is because moderators don't pay attention to us because we have no developers anymore (this is about to change though one of our members was recently sent an invite)

If this were any other phone this overposting wouldn't be tolerated, you guys treat the forums like it's facebook and would rather start a thread than take the time to search for your answer, and it clutters everything up with useless threads. When I joined XDA and had a G1 I didn't post anything for like 2 years because I was able to find the answers by searching.

I am an asshole, so get used to it but I mean you no harm. I am trying to give advice because I have been on here since day one and personally seen devs leave out of irritation with the members lack of forum etiquette. If we can all try and keep the forums clean then we have a better chance of getting support, and this will also help you guys in the future when you move onto more popular devices. If you think I'm a **** you have no idea what some of the senior members can be like lol

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That's what she said

Alright I'm done trolling now
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] vitriolix:
Um, you posted a link to a FAQ, not a step by step guide...

Quit trolling, noone is impressed. Unlike you, Kediil is actually adding to this forum.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xmeatizmurderx:
faq, guide, whatever

I have posted several links that tell you in plain terms how to root and put roms on from stock. If people find this one easier to read for some reason then good for them, I don't have the power to moderate the forums

My point has been made, I don't know why you are responding to me if you don't like what I have to say

P.S.

I have sent in a request to have this thread stickied for you guys
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] pitflyer:
I read the noob faq which is great but doesn't have the step by step detail of this one. The flashing ROM step in the noob faq is short and sweet. This one makes me more comfortable to finally try flashing the ROM. Thanks to the OP for putting it together. I will be giving it a shot this weekend.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Kediil:
@ xmeatizmurderx

C'est la vie.

I appreciate the link. I did learn some things about stuff in that FAQ that I didn't from Yogi.

And thanks for passing it along. Having more things, like the FAQ and the most important semi-static threads stickied would certainly help. It's definitely more difficult to search for things when you're not sure what to search for in the first place. That FAQ certainly could have gotten me further, though I'm not sure I would have trusted myself to try anything even then. A couple hundred dollars that I don't really have on a phone make me lean toward preferably *not* bricking it due to personal inability. ;p
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
Your guide is very helpful being that its step by step. The FAQ is more to fill you in on what your doing, not a in depth guide on how to do it. Well done, would you prefer to have this moved to the Dev section ? It can be very helpful and easier for new people to find.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
I was thinking the same thing- this guide won't necessarily teach you exactly WHAT you are doing, but it seems to be a very easy way for a beginner to get some custom ROM action on their SK :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] pitflyer:
Just went through this guide from beginning to end. Perfect. I agree it doesn't really tell you what you are doing, but other threads exist for that. For me, it helped me flash my first ROM ever very easily. Thank you OP.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Kediil:
I don't think it would matter overly much whether it were kept in general or moved over to the development. If a new person looks in Dev first and can't find what they're looking for, they'll have to come to general before posting. And anyone who thinks to use the search function looking for a guide, how to, rom, bali or voodoo will get this thread as a result. Stickying it would be far more effective I think. In retrospect, adding 'New? Read first.." on the beginning of the rest of the title probably would have been a good addition too.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ayoteddy:
Sticky it is
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Kediil:
You are completely awesome! Thanks!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] AFAinHD:
Very nice guide, very detailed. :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lintfiend:
Ya, the list of ROMs may need updating, but its a nice resource. Thanks!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] AFAinHD:
Nice guide, good job! :D
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] mumbo101:
i root my phone. go to cwm recovery and make sure all the mounts are right. i start flashing the rom. middle of the rom the phone resets and vibrates stuck on the splash screen. idk where to go from here. ive odined back and did all the steps over twice and nothing is going right.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ugly_duckling:
thank you very much, i tried this with a couple other instruction threads and couldnt get it to work, this one worked perfectly! :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] a0dhan725:
side kick 4g rooting question

will this complete guide work if i have all the sidekick 4g updates? there was one in the spring and then one in the fall.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] letherboi:
big problem hehe

I am really new to custom ROMs and i believe something went wrong. I downloaded a ROM onto my SD card and rebooted through ROM Manager. Everything seemed fine until the reboot, which had a robotic voice say "Convert System Partition, System Not Available" Ive tried rebooting into the red voodoo and have heard i need to disable lagfix. Now ive rebooted and its stuck on the "T-mobile Sidekick 4g Samsung" screen. Pls Help :)

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Nvm, hail Odin
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ugly_duckling:
Thanks!

great instructions, have tried a couple times and had to odin because of small mistakes, this cleared em up
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] senrai180:
has anyone bricked their phone? is the rate of bricking your phone high? or is it ok as long as we follow everything u said? sorry for the questions, but as long as we dont boot up with it sayng mount system, we are ok?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] AFAinHD:
Here dude, ill tell you the fool proof way to not hurt your phone, trust me I've tested every ROM in the sidekick forum, I've flashed many, many times. As long as you take it nice and slow and follow every instruction, nothing will go wrong. Now I can download a ROM and have it flashed in 4 minutes without any instructions, hell I just flashed a new one 2 hours ago. If you have any doubts that you didn't pay enough attention to the instructions you probaly didn't. Also from my experiences, bricking this phone, is hard. The first tim I odin'ed I had failed 3 times! Because I had the wrong file selected, because I missed a part of the instructions, but the phone still made it in to download and I was able to save it. Long story short, follow the instructions to the dot and you will be FINE.

If i helped you, hit the thanks button!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] senrai180:
i have a question. sorry for i am a noob. You know how u said it was red? (recovery) well i downloaded rom manager and and flashed the recovery. its orange. is that a big deal, and is the lagfix kk?

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thx man, knew xda was the way to go hehe thanked too
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] JonathanBarca10:
Thanks for the quick guide, it really helped me to install Glorious Overdose.

And i have a general question for anybody that can answer: on the Glorious Overdose thread the pictures showed a notification bar power control (mine doesn't show them) and an app drawer icon surrounded by only 2 apps which both had color (mine had 4 app shortcuts around the app drawer and they were colorless).

i was wondering if these were add-ons of some kind or am i really just that big of a noob that i can't find them in the settings?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] FixXxeR186:
flashing a different rom

i have a noob question. seems like it's been answered in this guide, but i just want to be absolutely sure. never rooted a phone at all before i rooted my SK4G. thanks to this forum i didnt screw up.

i've been running smooth maximus gingerclone for several months now, and i don't think its bad, but id like to try a new ROM. Glorious Overdose specifically, and my noob question is: once i am ready, and have everything backed up, and before i copy the new ROM to the sd card, should i delete the smooth maximus zip file? or is it safe to leave on there and put on the new rom and install anyways?

thanks for bearing with a nub. and thanks for the developer's hard work for the sidekick!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] JonathanBarca10:
I think that it would be fine to just leave it on there, but I'm no expert. I say this because when u select to install from a zip, it does so only from the file that you select, which in this case would be glorious overdose. But if you want to be absolutely safe, then you should just delete it. I'm assuming its saved on your computer anyways, so if you want to return to gingerclone, you can always just copy it back and install from that zip.

Well I guess since I'm no expert, I would say just play it safe lol

sent from a mini computer-gloriously overdosed
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
it is safe to leave it on, any ROM on your sdcard won't affect anything. just choose the right one when you go to install and you'll be fine :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] FixXxeR186:
I appreciate the reply man! makes sense, better safe than brickt.

took my time readin up on all i can, as everyone should do.

and i think im ready to flash some new awesomeness on my SK, and ill holler if i need anymore help thanks!

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ok cool! thanks!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] slinkygn:
The current ROM Manager version has a CWM recovery specifically for the SK4G... is that usable? The thread with the SK4G CWM recovery image did note that the device info had been submitted for inclusion in a later version, and that was the better part of a year ago; figuring there has to be a way to do this through ROM manager and save new folks a few treacherous steps.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Jax184:
I tried it a few days ago and it didn't work. It's possible that I did something wrong though.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] slinkygn:
It struck me that the automated install of CWM recovery that Rom Manager does probably doesn't take into account having to mount /system first, and that would probably have to be done before having ROM Manager flash the recovery (maybe by using Terminal Emulator to remount the /system partition). But without that, yeah, I'd think it might not work.

EDIT: That being said, even re-mounting in TE and then using ROM Manager is pretty straightforward... may be worth a try.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dsule8:
Error rooting SK 4G

i have downloaded all the necessary installation and downloads, but when it comes too rooting my sidekick it stops at step # 3. I have the model SGH-T839 version UVKG2. it also says ./psneuter:not found. any help on rooting my phone ?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
are you running an av program? it sounds like your antivirus program removed the critical piece of the rootkit, which it sees as a virus but will not harm your computer. try disabling your antivirus, and downloading and running SuperOneClick again.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dsule8:
I turned my AV program off and disabled its firewall but this doesn't seem to be the case. I am still stuck on step 3. any other clues?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Ok, when you look into the SuperOneClick folder, psneuter is there? Other than that, I'm not too sure at the moment. You have the Samsung drivers installed, yeah?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dsule8:
Hmm, No i don't have psneuter as a file in there... and yes, i have the samsung drivers installed onto my computer.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Ok, if you redownload SuperOneClick, with your security software disabled, it should work then(keep your security disabled until you have gained root- it will probably remove psneuter when you go to run SuperOneClick :) )
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dsule8:
Well i redownloaded the zip-file, and still psneuter was not found in the folders. My firmware is 2.2.1 but i am downloading superoneclick 2.3 may that be the case ?

but everytime i try to root my SK 4G it says:

export TEMPRANDOM=24009;export PS1=END:$TEMPRANDOM;./psneuter

export PS1=""

./psneuter: not found

END:24009
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Well that's...... odd. You sure you don't have any kinda of securityware running... maybe some kind of Windows default firewall or something? Other than, I think I'm out of ideas for now.... I actually recently downloaded SuperOneClick and rooted someone's SK with it .
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] dsule8:
alright... well i bought the phone unlocked may something be wrong with the phone and not the computer ?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Eicha:
herpy derp

Hey everyone! I have a question I feel I should already know, but if I have root, can't I just install rom manager, flash clockworkmod, boot in recovery and flash the roms?

Love the thread, by the way :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
That's actually good thinking, normally you could flash CWM thru Rom Manager and you'd be good. I don't have this device anymore, but I remember that the CWM that is flashed thru Rom Manager has it's issues and isn't what you wanna be using.... and I doubt that has changed.

You'll want to follow the steps given for downloading a different version of CWM, and the recovery binary that let's you boot into it. Or, I think sduvick has a nice little script that does this for you.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] shifty331:
i have read that OP several times and i still don't understand how to install a rom on the sk4g.. can anyone actually help me and walk me through this?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] drichter92:
Messed Up Recovery File

I messed up with the original recovery file (I think) :confused: because I am unable to get the roms to work properly. I think it is for this reason. I also get the error:

E:failed to verify whole-file signature

E:signature verification failed

Installation Aborted

What should I do. I have my Samsung Droid Charge rooted fine...this Sidekick is being a pain. :mad:
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
What you wanna do is boot into recovery and select 'reinstall packages'... then it should change to an orange recovery. If it doesn't, then you don't have the 2 files files from the recovery thread placed properly.

Also: this is assuming you have rooted the device with SuperOneClick first. If you haven't, then you won't have permission to replace the recovery file in /system/bin.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] drichter92:
Thanks

Thank you. I don't think I have the 2 files files from the recovery thread placed properly because it doesn't turn orange. I do have it rooted but when I was rooting it I got all theses errors. I told it to skip and still states the phone is rooted successfully. We will see. Thanks again for the help.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lenadariel:
worked perfectly. thanks so much :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] d9vabder:
I had trouble installing my ROMS because I didn't partition my sd Card to EXT 2048 and SWP 0.

(Can find in CWM>Advanced>Partition
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lipico:
Hey, I've done everithing right, step-by-step. I hit reinstall packages and appear to me de cwm recovery like it should, but when I hit wipe data/factory reset the phone freezes and the progress bar doesn't even move. And I can't complete the job by wiping cache and so forth... Is it ok not to press wipe data/factory reset, and cleaning cache and dalvik cache and flash the rom?

Edit: I trade to a new sd card and it happens the same.

I hit wipe data/factory reset on cwm recovery.. and it says

-- Wiping data...

Formatting /data...

Formatting /cache...

Formatting /sd-ext...

E:format_volume: make:extf4fs failed on /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

Formatting /sdcard/.android_secure...

And the progress bar doesn't move, and the phone freezes and I can only shut it down. When I turned it on, it wiped everything. I have to repeat all again, but on cwm recovery always happens this.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] starscream79:
This was unbelievably helpful! I am forever grateful!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] xSinatraa:
CWM keep freezing everytime i go on to it can anyone help?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] MandoH:
Works great!!!! Thanks
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] downfall360:
the recovery comes up as recovery.rc when I try to copy to system/bin. therefore does not replace it without being renamed. when renamed it softbricks the phone.

workaround or fix? something? anybody else get this issue?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lmt125:
Hi, I rooted the phone then through rom manager did the cwm flash but apparently that is wrong. Then discovered I had to download the update.zip and recovery.zip files. I put them in the root of the sd card, unplugged the phone, used a file explorer and put the recovery in /system/bin. Booted into recovery and then clicked on reinstall package then it said E:Verification failed. Aborted.

Should I delete the CWM files or something from the Rom Manager flash I did before?

Thanks for the help =)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Did you extract the recovery.zip before you put it in /system/bin? You want to put the file that's inside the zip in there... if you put the zip file in there it won't work.

You shouldn't need to delete what you installed with ROM Manager... if you flash a custom ROM, it should permanently install the proper recovery, if i remember correctly.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lmt125:
Ok so should I delete the zip file I pasted in the bin? I guess I didn't read properly about the extraction.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Yeah, delete the zip and paste just the recovery.bin in /system/bin. Then when you go to reinstall packages, you should have the red voodoo cwm recovery.

P.S. don't extract the update.zip tho, just keep that on the root of your sdcard :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lmt125:
Thanks for all the help was able to flash a rom it's still loading now. Hope all goes well :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yogi2010:
Cool, iit shoud be fine but let us know if it isn't.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] lmt125:
Everything went well. Thanks for all the help, it's my moms phone and didn't want to mess it up for her. She likes her new rom =)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] azeem40:
I followed this guide 100% and it gets stuck on splash screen every time....
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] basyonk:
thanks...

im following and now im using GOV rom without any problem :)
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Lawlerblades:
This is great!!! I just signed onto this site today because I finally want to flash my OS, and I was also going to use the GCv2, I've seen nothing but good reviews from users so why not try it out. I was confused on how to go along and get this done but you sir hit the nail on the head with this thread! Has almost all questions answered about the how to, only part left is to check for any updated flashes b4 i go ahead. I give you props, even if there are other threads t, this one was the easiest to find and does its job well. I will be going ahead soon hopefully by the end of the week. I also know im late on this idea, but im sick of the buggy phone, and cant seem to get ride of it, its just what i need.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] soluslobo:
is there a better way without using superoneclick? Cause it does not run well with my sidekick
[Off-topic] Eris _2.1_2010:
http://www.dafk.net/what/

Sent from my Glitched MIUI Fascinate
[Off-topic] Pizzaapu:
Sorry my flash doesn't work on my iPad2 /palmface
[Off-topic] Eris _2.1_2010:
Thnx for the laugh lmao

Sent from my Glitched MIUI Fascinate
[Off-topic] Nigeldg:
Whoa, looks insane ;)
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Holy shi** Looks great:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Dirk:
omgwtfbbqsauce!
[Off-topic] askey69:
impressive, thanks

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[Off-topic] cdesai:
I almost spitted out my coffee...
[Off-topic] idavid_:
Wow that's amazing :eek:
[Off-topic] eddydc1:
nice phone ;D