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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] evohog:
+1, I'm not even worried about root. Got 3800+ on quadrant stock. Baaaadasss
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Evo4eva:
The resolution is no better on the 3D than it is on the Epic. The Epic can actually do a higher resolution because of the super amoled screen.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
I got my GSII a couple of days ago and have been running it side by side with my 3D. Both of these phones are beastly devices. Can't really give the edge to either one across the board. One or the other may perform certain tasks a bit faster, but nothing so significant as to be noticed in real world use. The display on the GSII is awesome, the first word that came to mind when using it is "iphonish". The call quality, camera, battery life and such are all comparable on both devices. I'll probably keep the GSII, but I won't be giving up the 3D. I like the 3D feature and it seems like there's more to come in the 3D arena. I was going to start a thread about this posting screen shots and pictures from both devices, I just haven't had the chance to sit down at my pc to do it yet . Not sure if we need another thread on the subject anyhow. Probably just find a thread such as this to post in... :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] THAD LOVELACE:
How did this happen?

I got the 3D at lunch, Love it (for real) watch a short preview on Slashgear, about SGS2E4GT, I was out stop at the Sprint store around the house

(big mistake) the credit card was out be for I know what I had done. Dam that 4.5 display, 14 day's my ass, i'm keeping this bad boy!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
Wanna see something even more incredible?

Run Quadrant again and take a look at what the stock max/min speeds are that just achieved that 3800+ score......

You will get a "nerd-chub", I promise.

<<This space for rent>>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AdhvanIt:
I too spent about a week making this decision, playing with both devices. Evo 3d. Its a flagship device with an excellent development scene which makes it more likely to have the latest and greatest.

Samsungs hardware is great, but their support is terrible. ICS is rumored to release end of year, sgs2 users won't see it till late 2012. We saw this with all of the original galaxy devices that are still running old software.

In the end, it all boils down to preference. Internals are too similar (though qualcomm has significantly more experience manufacturing cpu's) to make a difference. The sgs2 has a superior screen, and the 3d has superior build quality. Camera isn't much different in quality at 5mp vs 8mp unless you're making large prints.

Benchmarks mean nothing. My HTC Thunderbolt scored 4200 on quadrant running CM7, and it has a single core CPU. So if you're basing your decision on that, the qualcomm msm series snapdragon eats both of these dual core beasts for breakfast (which isn't actually the case).

Just my .02.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] milominderbinder:
From the 20 Reasons to get the E4GT

Faster

Thinner

Lighter

Brighter SAMOLED

2GB for apps

Lasts 25-40 hours of medium use

Real Clipboard

Wireless sync

Microsoft Exchange sync

Connect a bluetooth mouse or keyboard

Real Hands Free

More video formats

Will have USB host

TouchWiz has added a bunch of gestures

Resizable Widgets

Screenshots

Customizable lockscreen
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cordell12:
Truthfully I am unhappy with my 3d. With the success of the 4g it was a tough act to follow, and they failed. My main concern is call quality, even Steve jobs knows the best app out there is the phone app. Plus the 3d was built around it's camera, htc shooter. The 2d camera is garbage, htc camera have never been the best but it is a BIG step down from the 4g. Speed wise the 3d is fast and I understand the way the cores work verses the cores on ET4G and that's why quadrant is so low. However I will enjoy me 4400's! Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
So I have an active tech support case open with sprint about my phones signal reception. The tech called me and my phone never rang, and my phone was 10 feet from my airave, just sitting there charging. I hate this. That's what happens, I get a voicemail but my phone never rings.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madmax2k1:
There must be a bad batch of EVO 3D that have reception issues; I have great reception with my phone even in weak signal areas.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
This is my third one too. I had my first two replaced within the 30 day window due to random powering off and restarting. Now mine has reception issues. Great. I'm on the phone with them now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
Yep - I've had that too. Even though Sprint gave me an airave because my 3D kept missing calls, it only helped a little. The 3D can't lock onto a signal even if the strongest source is just a few feet away it is always searching for another signal but frequently without signal while it drops a very strong source to look for a new one. I have turned off my airave since I get the et4g and haven't missed a call yet and my clients don't ask me to repeat myself - sound is crystal clear. The ET4G isn't perfect but I'm kind of angry at myself for giving the 3D such a long trial. By the 3rd one I had (within my 30 days) I should have returned my 3D and gone back to my old phone.

Some say it might be a bad batch but I got the first one direct from Sprint they day the phone was released, my second one in Los Angeles about a week later and my 3rd one in Tucson about another week after that. I'm not claiming they are all defective but I have to wonder how much time the people who think they work well actually spend on the phone? I spend about 3000-3500 minutes on the phone each month so it might just be that I've spent enough time on the phone that I'm more likely to notice the issue than someone who mostly texts or emails and doesn't use voice much.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kmd1970:
I miss the professional look and feel of the EVO 3D UI, apps and some of my HTC widgets. This thing is empty widget wise. Other than that E4GT is much faster and I have AC3! :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MOGUL USERZ:
There is a free adgile lockscreen add on free on the market. If you like the Evo 3d effect
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jaypeezee:
Just dropped in at a sprint store earlier this afternoon and here are my unbiased opinions - speaking from a current 3D owner;

Coming from an original evo 4g I was slightly disappointed with the jump to a 3D. Out of box, hands down the 3D smashed anything prior to the release of the Epic Touch. However with the release of custom ROMS and Kernels for the OG Evo, the upgrade to the 3D was disappointing... I don't use 3D, however qHD was enough for me to keep the 3D.

Moving to the Epic Touch....I must say I only played with the device for all but 10 minutes so here are my takeaways - which have been repeated 20 times over in this thread;

Speed - hands down this thing breezes through menus/transitions.

Screen - when looking at anything other than white, this thing is amazing.

Touchwiz - personally I like the way touchwiz handles apps/home screem over sense but this is personal preference.

Size - the extra screen real estate is awesome!!! when compairing tthe epic to my 3D with a seidio case they're almost identical with the epic being thinner.

Weight - light is nice but almost feels like to too light to the point where it'll fly out of your hands when rushing to answer a call...

Now here are my gripes;

Although colors are vibrant and beautiful, personally I cannot stand the yellowish tint whites give off. As an amateur photographer I've come accustomed to color accuracy. Granted neither device is suitable for photography use but I need whites to be closest to white when reading pdfs,docs, or webpages.

Screen resolution - such ashamed that a device with such a beautiful screen (sans white reproduction) uses last years resolution. When loading websites on my 3D side by side I preferred the rendering on the 3D.

Lack of NFC really kills the deal for me... If I was a new sprint customer looking to join, hands down, I'd choose the epic for the mere fact of having newer technology... But seeing as this thread is asking specifically if it's worth a switch from the 3D to the Epic.. in my opinion its not worth the jump considering most of us who have a 3D are locked into contract and would need to work serious magic to receive the subsidized pricing or shell out cash which is where my gripe lies..

To give up some feature to gain a few for the cost is not worth it.

Overall had hindsight being 20/20 I would have kept my of evo and waited for the prime.... Oh well live and learn.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I was curious if there was a reverse thread like this in the EVO 3D forum - can't find it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rattor:
I don't know about this. My screen has brilliant whites with not a tint of yellow to them.

Does NFC really make such a big deal to you? It will be a while before you see widespread NFC tech in the real world.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I haven't seen it anywhere yet. Frankly I'll probably avoid it for the first 2 years to see how secure it is.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Gene_Bailey:
I personally don't see any yellowish tint on my screen. If the brightness is down to half or less, it *might* have an incredibly faint bluish tint, but i only saw that once and that could be due to me having been using swifkey neon themed at the time. You know what they say about color perception lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] churro7:
So far no dropped calls anywhere where I would with the evo 4g

Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Using both phones for a week now and honestly neither one blows the other away in any one category. The resolution on the GSII is kinda getting to me a bit. The text in the browser for instance, looks like my old htc touch or the diamond after I've been working on the 3D for a bit. Other than that I'm really not seeing much difference as far as real world performance goes. May let the wife have a go at it. Her upgrade is due at the end of the month so if she likes the GSII I'll just give it to her and save her upgrade for the prime. The GSII seems kinda like more of a chick phone anyhow :p. The 3D feels like it should be hanging off my toolbelt in comparison... :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Um, I used my HTC touch last week while waiting for my SGS2 and do not know how you can say in any way there is the slightest resemblance of how text looks. I am utterly disappointed in you GadetMonger. You might need to switch you user name after that statement.:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
Right.......

sent from my DAMN phone!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Just an observation brother. That's what it reminds me of after I've been on the 3D for a bit, what can I say. No biggie I suppose. I wouldn't send the device back behind something like that for sure.... Just got to call em like I see em. That's how the GadgetMonger rolls. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nabbed:
Everything about the Epic Touch is slightly better than Evo3d, except the resolution and the 3D.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Been watching this very closely as well. I've found no difference in signal strength between the two devices everywhere i've been. Both have worked great as far as that goes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LexLuger82:
Upgrade and get it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
I ended up getting it for free lol. That order ended up shipping tjat order and not chargin me for it i even called sprint to confirm.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] firmbiz94:
I returned my epic yesterday ..just not enough there to justify all that money for very similiar. Performance. IMO ..I did like the camera tho ..wish HTC would get that right
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tahde:
Have them both and they are great phones. Each has their own respective perks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
I agree. Although the Epic may have the slight edge with camera, its not much. But then again you cant take a 3D pic with it either so.... Heres a couple of pics for a side by side.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LexLuger82:
They will bill you later
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] r2hudson:
make da jump!

ive had the Epic 4gt for about 4 days now. I still have my evo 3d, about to sell it. kept it around to make sure i convert everything over to the new phone correctly.

now that i have everything moved over to the epic 4gt ive rightfully had a chance to compare the 2. Evo 3d is fast, but once i have loaded it up with apps and started using a launcher replacement i notice it cant really handle it all. starts to slow down, freeze, FC, etc...

the Epic 4gt handles it like its a breeze. boots up 10x faster than my evo 3d. like literally flying through anything i throw at it. I have experienced a couple a freezes, and FCs, but they are minimal, and the recovery time is almost instant. Screen is amazing. This phone is just greatness out of the box. This is what android should have been from the beginning.

small things im not happy about that coulda made epic 4gt perfect for me:

no camera button - :,,(

no nfc - nfc probably wont even be popular for another year

cheap plasticy feel - but light weight comes with a price..sigh

resolution - ever things huge on the screen, feels like a waste of space

delay of power button - to turn on screen takes like 1/2 a second longer

battery - could be better, my battery life is about the same as it is on my Evo3D

battery over heats - watching a movie while it was charging, ive never had a device tell me that before this one, hmm...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Tried to confirm the statement about the launchers. I've already used ADW on both devices and launcher pro and spb 3D shell on the EVO 3D so I decided to try the two latter on the GSII. Obviously I didn't do anything extensive with the GSII yet other than installation and a quick run through . ADW and launcher pro both work great on both devices. Very smooth and equally quick. Spb 3D shell runs a bit choppy on the 3D and I couldn't get it to authenticate on the GSII at all, keeps telling me "authentication failed. Check Internet connection". No clue on that one. Both devices are running on wifi right now, but I did try it on 3g with the same results so.... Not sure how accurate this one will be as the 3D has about twice as many Apps on it right now.

Speaking of launchers, does anyone know of a way to change out the bottom four shortcuts on touch wiz? I don't generally use the stock msg app so it would be nice to switch that shortcut out for Gosms. I've looked but I haven't found a way to do it or change the default for that icon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AvatarOfFrost:
You can only change 3 out of the 4 launcher shortcuts and you do so by opening the app drawer, press menu and select Edit. Then just drag and drop.

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EVO3D's performance is abysmal compared to the GS2. Mine couldn't even scroll through the screens without being a little choppy. If you didn't see it, that doesn't mean it wasn't there. If you didn't think it worth the extra money, that's understandable.

I'm curious....have you measured this "very similar performance" or was it just your PERCEPTION that they are very similar?

It's like driving a Civic and a Lambo at 60 mph on the freeway and then saying...."Meh, they drove very similar, I'll go back to my Civic."

LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
SGS2 looks much better in my opinion in the pictures you posted. Much sharoer and clearer. Especially the items in the background.

There is one thing I do miss about my EVO 3D though and that is the development support that comes along with an HTC device. Hopefully we will see more of those guys come over here. That would truly make this the best device ever!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Thanks, I tried that but they wouldnt stick. Could be I was trying to replace the one that cant be replaced...:p

As for your statement/question on performance... not sure I understand. Are you saying the 3D is choppy even though I cant see that its choppy? Wouldnt that mean its not choppy? :p To anwser the best I can though... Side by side both devices scroll fron screen to screen equally fast and smooth, no lag or "choppiness" from either device. There is a difference in "flow" I guess for a lack of a better word. The GSII has kind of an "iphonish" feel to it. Thats the best I can desribe it.

And Im not sure Ive ever used the term "very similar" . Im pretty sure what I said was both devices are very comparable and that in using them both side by side (literally carrying on on my right side and one on my left) in real world applications I cant give either device the clear edge across the board. One or the other may perform one or another task slightly quicker than the other, but nothing that would set one device definitively over the other. And if by asking if Ive "measured" performance you mean benchmarks, no. Because

A. I dont think theres any disputing the GSII has the higher benchmarks.

B. Not into benchmarks, never have been.:D Im a real world application kind of guy. If I want to know if its cold enough outside to wear a jacket, I dont ask a weatherman. I go outside and decide for myself.

The one test that I did care enough to run was the speedtest. The 3d scored only slightly higher than the GSII. But then again my scores are never that impressive anyhow... I live in a crappy Sprint service area.:eek:

Attaching a few more sample pics.:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
And heres the speed tests i mentioned for those who care....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Thanks. That worked. Couldnt for the life of me figure that $hit out...:p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
In your prior post you mentioned the SGS2's camera is a little better. The more comparison pics you post the more the SGS2 is looking A LOT better. Are you at least seeing that now from you own examples?

I am so glad to finally have a decent camera phone. Oh, and video camera kicks butt on this thing also.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
If you're asking my opinion, I don't see enough of a difference to matter much personally. If I'm snapping pictures at the family barbecue or b day party either one would be more than adequate . It's not like one camera is total crap while the other is pure perfection. They're both good for what they are, which is a 8mp camera and a 5mp camera. I happen to be one who appreciates the 3D feature so the slight trade off doesn't bother me. Pure opinion of course. :D

As for the video, again.... From what I see there's not a huge difference between the two.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] linzgeneral:
How do you know how good the GPU is? I cant find any compatible games. Please advise.

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I agree with you that I see absolutely no difference in performance between the 3D and Epic Touch. Touch might be smoother in scrolling but one scrolls up and down and the other scrolls from left to right so apples and oranges. However, you are comparing the wrong thing when it comes to the cameras...lol.... Here there is absolutely no comparison, the Touch blows the 3d's camera away and its not even close.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
I wouldn't say it destroys the 3D, and there are a few things from Sense that I miss. I like the sense contacts application a lot better. The Camera is worlds better, especially in low light. I have a DSLR but it's a pain carrying that around all the time, and at least now I feel like I would be able to get a decent picture on my phone if I don't have the camera on me.

But overall, yes, I'm happy with the decision to switch from the 3D.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] linzgeneral:
You are totally wrong. The resolution is significantly better on the 3D. I have both, no comparison. Samsung improved on their own pentile screen which was actually lower than the stated resolution of 800*480. The super amoled plus just brings it where it should have been in the first place at a true 800*480. It is not close to QHD like the 3D.

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My 3D plays files and games that my Epic touch cant play and my battery on the 3D is significantly better. I get about 8 hrs of medium use max. i keep the phone plugged in now. It got it on launch day so maybe the battery still needs to be broken in but just saying... Handsfree yes because it keeps slipping out of my hands due to the trackless plastic..TPU case on the way to remedy that...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Don't really see how you can say that one blows the other away after seeing the pics side by side but... OK. Like I said I see a slight difference, but I like being able to capture pics and videos in 3d as well so for me it's worth the minimal trade off.

As for games, I've got Assassins Creed 3D, Boxit2, and lane splitter installed at the moment. Obviously Assassins Creed I've only played on the 3D. What can I say about the other 2.... They work fine on both devices. I'm not what you would call a serious gamer. If it runs smoothly with no lag, I'm good. :b
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
yeah, homeboy is wrong here. The evo has much higher resolution.

However, id take the s2's 480x800 super amoled plus anyday over the qHD.

as far as battery goes, in my case, Im gonna have to strongly disagree. For me, the battery on the 3d was terrible. Im sitting on 8h 52min of time off charger with light usage and im only down to 81%. Frickin ridiculous.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffixnyc:
Wow. How do you get that kind of battery life? I pulled my phone off the charger 1 hour and 23 minutes ago. It was fully charged and now I'm at 83% and usage was only about an hour of music playback
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boogief1:
the only thing that suxs in this phone is

the camera mic suxs when u record live music like in a concert everything else is awesome
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Yeah, I still have both phones active right now.

the 3d is at 10h 17m 21s on battery and at 57%, which, don't get me wrong, is pretty good.

The Epic Touch is at 8 hours 28 m 41 s and 78%. The usage is pretty much the same. I have the same email accounts on both, and I use google voice to text from the Epic Touch. So I'm actually using the 3d less since I'm not texting from it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
music playback drains the battery kinda fast. I just have my phone stock, twitter checking every 15 minutes, brightness set to automatic. I also had 4g on. I made sure to set social hub to automatic refresh to manual, facebook also. thats all ive done
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Got any screen shots? Nothing personal, it's just I haven't seen results like that and its kind of hard to tell what's up what with all the fanboys and trolls. I'll start mine fresh in the morning and post what I come out with. Maybe I'm missing something key in settings or something.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mr.bill:
Check out pocketnow.com to see the side by side comparisons to other top "super phones " the SGS2 blows them all away! Proof is in their test......
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jazzneel:
oops posted in wrong thread..my bad (couldn't figure out how to delete this). Please ignore!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Why would I take someone else's word for it when I have both devices in my hands right now? :confused: All that matters to me is how they perform for me on a daily basis. I can turn on the TV and watch 100 commercials or go online and get a million different opinions on which is the best device...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] corybucher:
Yep just added a new line of service to get this phone and sold my evo 3d to sprint to help make up for the difference. Dont miss my evo one bit because this thing is a beast and picture quality is amazing.