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[Motorola Photon 4G] Jason_Thames:
Title says it all... Now that we have had some time to use the Photon for a while, how are you getting along? I bought one over the Evo 3D and I am happier with my choice now than when I got it August 4th. I have tried the Evo 3D, as I picked one up on CL for a song and after giving it a full week to see if I liked Sense 3.0 / 3D goodness, I could not wait to get back to the Photon! I realise there are lots more options for customization on other phones, but the Photon is the 1st Android phone I am happy with after a simple root and wifi tether. This phone is FAST, has ample storage, and a feature set that is not equaled on any other smartphone from Sprint. Webtop is a great tool for being on the go, and getting some browsing done. The tegra 2 has a great selection of 3d games available. The business features this phone includes are also a godsend. Finally I can have conference calls dail automatically, and sign me in afterwards! Then we have the radios, which are without equal on any CDMA device I have used! Call quality is superb, and the speaker is loud enough for a boardroom full of people. The camera is much better than the Evo 3D as well, both for stills and video. The screen is fantastic, bright and easily viewable in direct sunlight. I don't think I have ever been so happy with an Android phone as I am with this one. What do you all think? TIA...
[Motorola Photon 4G] ianford10:
Oh no another thread on the Photon being great or crap ;)

Anyways I can truly say I love the Photon to bitz :) beats all my other devices hands down and I've had the best, seven handsets this year alone which I can't be arsed to list again. Sound and call quality are great, looks great, feels great, root, unlocked bootloader. Just a fantastic phone ;)
[Motorola Photon 4G] daddymikey1975:
this but I'm not unlocked yet ... waiting for working CM7 first :p
[Motorola Photon 4G] Kevets:
I'm fine with it, although I don't need the reassurance from other people that many here seem to require.
[Motorola Photon 4G] DualSportDad:
it's way better than the evo 3d, that's for sure. i still liked my evo 4g better though. mainly cause of CM7 though. i think if the photon had CM7 it'd be better than the evo 4g, the evo 4g only winning with screen quality.
[Motorola Photon 4G] phatmanxxl:
The only thing going for the evo3d is the development, adreno 220 and the qHD screen, photon IMHO is a higher quality phone all around, its just lacking in the screen resolution. If the photon had the evo3d qHD screen it would be the perfect phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Jason_Thames:
I'm not sure how someone else feels about your phone choice has anything to do with this topic, but moving on. The adreno 220 is certainly more powerful than geforce in the tegra 2, but the cortex a9 seems to make up for it somewhat. The phone certainly doesn't feel slow in any way. You know how it is, once the "perfect" phone comes out, something better will surely be on the horizon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Love the Photon, but loved the EVO 3D before that and the Evo 4G before that. And will love whatever's next. No phone is perfect, though of course by definition since I've kept it, I think the Photon is the closest so far. Some people do seem to have their self-esteem directly tied to whether you agree that you love their phone and that your different phone is clearly inferior. Don't think that the OP has that issue. Just following the previous poster's tangent....

But, back on topic ....

I quite like the Photon's screen outdoors and like that it has a SIM card slot. It was quite nice to slap a cheap Asian SIM card in my old (1 year ago LOL!) Touch Pro 2 and call the US for $0.06/minute instead of $2.99/minute. One of the reasons I bought the Photon, and hope that I am not wowed by the new Samsung (not likely, I think). And Photon so far has great radios - my HTC phones all struggled in my home, a bit of a Sprint dead spot.

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Yeah - no phone is ever perfect, or remains the newest/best for very long. But, I'm quite happy with the Photon - no complaints or issues. Love the screen, radios and form factor (not just a rectangular slab). Feel like we'll continue to get good updates from Moto.

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We all have different eyes and corresponding perceptual differences. I was prepared to hate the Pentile display based on reviews - but when I went in the sprint store, was quite surprised to find that my eyes definitely prefer the Photon over my old (now wife's new) EVO 3d. To my eyes, the Photon is whiter, brighter, crisper and better in sunlight that the 3D.

Also, the 3d and Photon are the first phones where I feel I can just happily live with a rooted stock ROM. So community ROM development not important to me anymore. Just want the phone vendor to push Android fixes and updates to me; feel Moto will be #1, HTC #2, Samsung #3.
[Motorola Photon 4G] stesh725:
love the photon

just like a lot of you guys i love the photon, but also loved the htc evo 3d and before that the htc evo 3g....they all are great phones....the main reason i like the photon is that it has the capablities of the webtop feature and also has a lot more device orrientied accesseries which make the phone even better.....
[Motorola Photon 4G] Equalizir:
Im reasonably happy with my photon. It for the most part gets the job done. Am annoyed with it rebooting a few times a day. Also I don't have the same feeling about it as I had when I had my nexus one. That phone was great.

Sent from my Photon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] hoang031:
Got this phone last week, actually brought phone back to Sprint to exchange for the Epic 4g Touch then decided not to. Reasons are:

1. Even tho the ET has a bigger screen, the resolution blows even with the new amoled. The amoled makes things more 'vibrant' but it overdoes it. The pinks look red and whites look off-white. You can fix this by lowering the vibrance to 1/3 but that still makes it look off. The photon is more lifelike in pictures and color quality.

2. Holding the phones, the ET feels like a toy. Photon feels more like a premium phone.

3. Camera quality is equal.

4.Call quality and speaker quality is better on the photon.

5. ET has a faster processor and smokes the photon in quadrant tests. But in real word applications, they are both similiar speed.
[Motorola Photon 4G] QWIKSTRIKE:
I agree on this one........ET got it right screen size IMHO. Great antenna here though and speaker
[Motorola Photon 4G] gomopho:
Guess I'm one of the insecure one, since this is my first Android phone. But I agree - the MoPho just works. Light years ahead of my Palm Pre, though it has its quirks. If the proximity sensor issue could be fixed, that would be nice. One I use bluetooth to make a call, I have to hit the power button, unlock and then hit the call end button just to end a call.

But in the scheme of things, it's a pretty minor annoyance. I am on my second bad headphone jack, though. Thinking of just going BT for headphones as well at this point.

But I love this phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] l3giticonia:
I'm in love with this. Device what's not to like about it? Running blazing steady with great battery life at 1ghz dual core steady 3g and amazingly fast 4g where it's available of corse, and screen size is just right rooted for tethering when on the road couldn't be any happier with a phone I and the the build quality and design is great!!
[Motorola Photon 4G] marvin02:
These kind of threads are useful for people like me who are looking for info on (potentially) their next phone.

I started on Android with a Moto Backflip, which was not a bad phone with Motoblur removed. The idea of a Motorola Android phone with no MotoBlur is interesting. I am actually looking at the US Cellular version of this (the Electrify).
[Motorola Photon 4G] qipengart:
Really wanting to get one next month for sure on my birthday!
[Motorola Photon 4G] droidevo1:
I'd have to say I'm very happy. It just works, both my pre and Evo 4g seemed to have issues that forced me to root to compensated. The Photon just seems like a solid device, its smooth and has great battery.

The only down side for me right now is the lack video chat, I'd like the Photon to enjoy the same support HTC has, but I have a feeling that eventually it will all get worked out.

Ultimately its the right phone for me, but the choice is becoming increasingly difficult with Sprints line up.
[Motorola Photon 4G] edozier:
My Own Opinion

I mainly purchased the phone because I'm going to be traveling to China soon and wanted an international phone. The phone seems fast and I love the amount of internal memory, but I find the interface and screen lacking. It is a personal opinion and other may feel differently. I previously had the evo4g and ran Sprint Lovers, Myn, CM7, and many others. In the end I settled on Synergy. My wife currently uses the phone now. Eveytime I pick up the phone I miss the interface. I like the tabbed notification toggle and really miss the exchange sync with the ability to view all new messages in all folders from one view. I also can tell a big difference in screens.

I do have to admit after giving it some time the screen isn't as noticeable as when you first get it and I understand the reason behind it.

That being said I do like the phone. Battery life seems on par if not better and the phone itself feels much more sturdy. I think starting out HTC spoiled my view on the android interface as well as the ability to unlock. HTC has no "fuse" that I ever read about and seemed simpler.

I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet because I use the 4g and the 3g sucks by my work. As soon as that is done it will be unlocked.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
If you miss the HTC Sense UI (and I do a little), consider:

- a launcher like Launcher Pro (free, or Plus $3.50), ADW, Go Launcher; with

- Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets (about $2)

After a bit of research, I just last night bought the first one in each of the 2 lines above for total about $6. I find the stock Android a bit bland myself, and also was a bit spoiled by Sense.

Also - from reading other posts at other forums, there may be different HW revs of the phone floating around. One poster commented on the Photon store display model showing lots of pixelation, but the new out of box one he got did not have it. My store model and one I bought were both great. Maybe you need to swap. And maybe I'm fortunate that my eyes just don't see it - but after reading the Pentile reviews and sample screenshots, I am convinced that they largely fixed the problem in perhaps rev2 of the display/phone.

I've already unrooted mine, but am happy enough with stock (with a few 3rd party addons like mentioned above) that I doubt I'll ever unlock it a flash it. (And I spent a lot of time cooking WinMo ROMs in my own kitchen)

I also miss the EVO 3d's "all emails from all accounts" in one view!

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Agreed - I always read forums before buying so that I know what to pay attention to when I actually demo the phone. And again, I discard the top and bottom 30% of the posts and look for posts from people who don't appear to have the need for me to agree with them, and that are not trying to convince me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ronnienyc:
I checked out the ET twice this week definitely like the photon more. The photon screen is sharper and a lot brighter, and the photon seems to be more responsive, and has better download speeds.

At this point I don't understand why everyone loves the ET.

Photon has been rock solid for me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] bricky23:
I am running the home base rom ext4 oc kernel. I went to the sprint store to check out the et. After reading in their forum, I expected to be blown away by the speed of the et, but I wasn't. Didn't think it was any faster than what I am running. Once wifi is working on this version, I will be happy with what I've got. There is no 4g in my area anyway. And wow that et is big!
[Motorola Photon 4G] Torisen:
This was my first cell phone ever and I'm around them a lot because of my job. I chose the Photon because of the phone not because of the network.
[Motorola Photon 4G] limeaid:
NO WAY are the cameras equal on these two phones. The Epic Touch's camera blows the Photon's away. It's the main reason why I am leaning heavily towards keeping the Epic. I don't disagree with your other points though.

I have both phones right now... and while I loved my Photon for the month that I had it, I think I love the Epic just a bit more. I'll miss certain things about the Photon, but in the end, the Epic's camera and it's stability (no reboots) are going to be the deciding factors for me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] QWIKSTRIKE:
I down loaded SBP 3D shell.....cost more but excellent.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ianford10:
Does it run ok?
[Motorola Photon 4G] QWIKSTRIKE:
buttery smooth like sense you would think I had 3D the way it works...go to

http://m.androidcentral.com/spb-shell-3d-android-very-slick-launcher-thats-just-too-expensive
[Motorola Photon 4G] ianford10:
Think I need to sleep on it before I decide to part with nearly £10 ;)
[Motorola Photon 4G] ticobiker:
I used to have HTC HD2 and it was exc I replaced it with the Dell Streak I loved that screen and the performace too now I replace the Dell with photon really cool device, bad@ss performance, great pictures and HD video really nice. I am just fedup at the thing that just for nothing it restarts by it self once in a while. No sure if this is a android condition or what but its really annoying! Else not complain!
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
I spent too much $ on SPB products back in the Windows Mobile days that got maybe one minor update, then went to end of life - and those that got major upgrades cost you additional money. Shell does look nice from the reviews I saw, but I just believe Launcher, ADW, and GO will have more active development and enhancements.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kev94:
It seems that a lot of carriers are ready to deploy Mango. French carrier Orange is one of them. Recently, a french owner of a LG Optimus 7 named Lionel used the warranty of his phone to get it replaced with a new one. I can't say how amazed he was when he noticed that his new device was already running WP 7.5 Mango !

Here's a picture he took himself to prove his statement :

Then he declared : everything is smoother and faster. Apps are integreted better. Every day I figure out another small feature that makes WP7 so wonderful. I'm so thrilled !

This great news show us mango is ready to be delivered and installed, yet Microsoft is still keeping it in a secret drawer no one has the key for.

From smartphonefrance.info
[Windows Phone 7 General] dilzo:
It's the same with Dell, I have a feeling that Mango will be released on the 23rd though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
There you go again with the made up dates. How do you come up with this, is it thanks to stars alignment?
[Windows Phone 7 General] naplesbill:
It's the beginning of Fall is why!
[Windows Phone 7 General] boysie:
Incorrect: Autumn begins on 1st September :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn

Autumn = Fall incase you were unsure :eek:

I've seen a few people say that begining of September is not Fall so now you can relay this correction if you see it posted.

Ofc if you're from North America you have diffrent ways of doing every thing compared to the rest of the world :) so maybe later in September (ie the September equinox) is when you consider Autumn to start, Dam moon lovers :eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Given that here in Russia they started selling WP7 phones on Sep 16th, the first phone is Mozart, and it runs Mango, it's safe to say that the update is ready, with OEM drivers and all that.

So I guess there may be two reasons for the delay:

1. There are problems with Microsoft's update infrastructure.

2. Microsoft is waiting for AT&T (and probably other important carriers) or Samsung to avoid the PR trouble they ran into last time.

On a side note, a weird thing is that Mozart is marked as "Top seller" on MTS (largest Russian operator) website, and it seems to have sold out in most stores over the weekend.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slimshady322:
Actually there are two definitions. Either you seperate the seasons into months and then Fall is September, October and November.

But it is more accurate to take the tropic of cancer/capricorn into account because these acutally have a meaning and are not made up dates, and then September 23rd is the start of fall.

Also Joe Belfiore tweeted a link to a webpage stating september 23rd is the start of fall and that's all that really matters.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dilzo:
Just a random guess on my behalf :rolleyes: I didn't say it was the date.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andyxover:
Tf2 is rumored to release soon,

Will you upgrade?

If not what kind of price spec / dimension, thickness of the new tf would make you do it?

To me if they keep the same price, better camera, better speaker, as thin as galaxy tab 10.1 then SOLD

!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adiliyo:
i probably wouldn't, the next tablet i want to get would be a win8 tablet, not sure if i want an arm or x86 processor yet...

so, a TF2 that runs win8 would be something i would consider. :)

BUT, if i could sell my TF and get a TF2 for like ~$100 i would probably bite, ICS would have to be something FAR more cohesive and polished though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myamex:
only if they make a TF2 that supports the current docking.

I paid $170 for the docking, tax+shipping.

No way I would buy another Transformer if they make a new docking for every upgrade.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ExploreMN:
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they already announced it would be compatible with the existing dock...which suggests it will have the same thickness as the current model in order to fit in the slot...or it will have a "bulge" in the back if it needs to be thicker to accommodate the new tech.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spidey01:
I've recently aquired a TF101-B1/32GB model as an upgrade/replacement to my 1015PE EeePC. Software wise the only stuff I could aim for improvements, can be done with OTA updates or ROMs. Hardware wise, unless the battery life goes up to like 4x, what improvements we can expect in terms of CPU/RAM/Storage are just not worth it to me.

So I'm sticking with my Andrea :-)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7Usam:
My TF1 now is enough for me .

:)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mb02:
i would upgrade. Win 8 is going to support Kal El chipset. ICS + Win8 + awesome hardware? Yes please. The trusty TF will go to my wife and get her off my equipment :-)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gottahavit:
I will probably not upgrade. I love my TF, and the only thing I would want would be a dual boot with win8, so IF it supports the current dock, AND it gets a dual win8 boot then I would consider it. Otherwise I will probably wait for the next chipset and skip the kal-el.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andyxover:
I am thinking they might come out with an adaptor,

but rumors are the TF2 is thinner/lighter than Ipad2.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
Only if it had at least several of the following changes:

* Significantly faster while retaining similar battery life -or- similar speed with a significant improvement in battery life

* Equal or better screen with less glossy finish

* A better microphone and (less important to me) speakers

* FM radio receiver (it's already in the current chipset, just not enabled and I'm guessing not the correct antenna type to support it)

* Faster GPS lock, since Android seems to have to start over from scratch on the GPS lock every time you leave the GPS-aware app and reenter

* Better wi-fi range / less dropouts

* Support for dual-boot to some other more fully-featured OS (Windows, Linux, whatever)

Thinner is utterly unimportant to me. I wouldn't want to have to buy my dock all over again (well, I have two tablets and two docks, so twice all over again). I don't see them making an adapter as it'd be too kludgy, so the only way it'll be thinner is if it has an unsightly bulge for the dock, or requires an entirely new dock. Size and weight are already near-perfect for me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMINENT1:
I will in the interim, but looking forward to W8.

I believe the dock can be modified easily for a thinner tab. If you've ever looked at your dock, you'll notice the hinge is attached with screws, making switching to another hinge adapter very easy.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
There is absolutely zero chance they're going to put out an adapter that requires customers to dissassemble the existing hinge section, even just by removing four screws. If there's an adapter of any kind, it will sit inside the existing hinge assembly.

That said, I would happily place a bet that there will be no such adapter at all. If Asus had intended to accomodate slimmer tablets with the same dock, they've have provisioned an adapter with some kind of easily-removable docking plate in the first place.

My guess is either the followup will be the same thickness, or it'll be incompatible with the existing accessories. (And given that other than the dock, basically none of the promised accessories are available even this long after launch, I'm tending towards the latter.)

Asus has so far failed to build up the ecosystem that Transformer owners were led to believe was on the way, and that suggests to me that they've pushed delivery of that ecosystem back to their second-gen product, if at all. The only reason to do that is if it's no longer compatible with the first generation.

Also, note that while you can remove the inner trim piece by removing four screws (and perhaps the two star-shaped screws in the outside of the hinge, although I'm guessing those mate into the combined latch mechanism / tablet jack assembly), this doesn't remove the hinge itself. Its outer dimensions are still dictated by the thickness of the current tablet. Hence, even if they offered an adapter of some kind, it would leave a large, unsightly bulge on the back of a thinner tablet when docked. (All of the slack has to be taken up behind the tablet, because the tablet itself has to be flush with the dock when closed, meaning that any reduction in thickness of the tablet will leave the hinge mechanism standing proud of the tablet's back surface by the same amount, beyond what it already does with the existing tablet.)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebadfrog:
Sorry. With the newer Transformers locked down I have to believe the next gen will be as well. As much as I like my TF, I will be switching to a more open manufacturer. I'm not paying $500+ to be locked out of my own device.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
Add another vote for Windows 8 instead. My TF1 will continue to do work as a dev test platform for Android.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acdcking12345:
Everything I do works just fine on my current TF. Unless there are things that the TF2 does that my current one cant, and it were things I would do, then yeah I would buy the TF2.

But if not, then I will keep my TF until it stops doing what I want it to do..
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Underwater Mike:
I'd buy it only with an unlocked bootloader. A stock machine is 50% useless.