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[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
What does recovery have to do with this?

Before writing my post, I did try a stock 3.2 from Acer. Nothing to do with custom or stock. I started with stock 3.0, just like most people here.

When I saw the port number issue, I went to Acer's servers, downloaded 3.2, and the it was, a missingport number inputbarea. Still there for outgoing servers.

I've been around the block a few times. I'm no newbie when it comes to technology, and I won't brag about what I do for a living.

As soon as you enter mail.somewhere.com:6799 or whatever your favorite port numer is, the Next button becoms greyed out. Just typing the colon after the server name does the trick, you don'even have to go as far as the port number. In the pervios versions of Email, there is an input box for the port number, it's gone missing.

The problem with wifi has been reported by users of 3.2 in general, meaning Asus and other brands as well. I did do some poking around on here on xda.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Nah, I doubt it's bad, and I got my A500 in May, the day it hit the shelves. This is not a defective unit. The software is defective.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
"My wifi is fine" - I hear that from a lot of people. Mine isn't. Ohters are complaining about this as well. Acer's support claims it's the router. Oh, come on, Acer. I have a couple of routers here, servicing FreeBSD systems, Mac OS X systems, iPhones, whatever a guest to my home might bring over, and gasp - Windows systems. It's not my router(s). And the fact that 3.0 and 3.1 work just fine, custom or stock, throws up a big red flag to me.

Emailing Acer support, or calling them for that matter, is the same as emailing or calling a brick wall.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Do you work for Acer? From what I've seen from the devs here, they do a better job than Acer would ever care to do.

I use CWM for recovery, it really does nothing but facilitate the switching of ROMs and doing a backup.
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
[Acer Iconia A500] BrianDigital:
Well I must have a good router I don't have issues with my wifi, may I ask what sheadule did you use for kernel in setcpu, I had abrather laggy experience until I changed it to userspace
[Acer Iconia A500] dottat:
Is there a commonality in type of encryption used with wifi issues?
[Acer Iconia A500] NeoGauge:
I for one have really never had a problem to ***** about. If you don't like the product you bought with Android then you must be looking for an excuse to go to the other side.

HoneyVillain ROM as stated below has run perfect. I'm not a dev, just know how to read and follow directions.

Sent from my Acer Iconia A500 running HoneyVillain 1.1 HC 3.2 for A501, OC'd 1.5GHz
[Acer Iconia A500] pacificwing:
I can second this: If you'd used 3.2 from Acer, you'd be stuck with it. Right now it locks you in and you can't downgrade. Really douche move from Acer, if you ask me. It's this kind of crap that you would expect from Mac.

As for your wifi issues, it might be a faulty unit like others have said, but I doubt it. I know the radio on mine is rather week (can't go more than 20 feet from the router). The GPS is also weak (only works on sunny days) with a low SNR even then. I suspect these two transmitters are underpowered on mine. I was an early adopter and I noticed that Acer had refurb units out only a few weeks after the initial release. This usually means they had many many returns. This is never a good sign.

The good news is that it is likely not a hardware thing in your case. If it worked better with 3.1, then you know that your transmitter is at least capable of a solid connection. If you don't mind losing root, try the OTA update. Keep in mind this is a one-way trip.

Otherwise, just stick with 3.1 until ICS comes out in a few months. 3.2 really is nothing spectacular; i wouldn't recommend upgrading unless it specifically fixes something you need.

Cheers,

-PW
[Acer Iconia A500] kjy2010:
+1.

;)
[Acer Iconia A500] runeblade:
Wifi Issues

As someone who has had the occasional wifi issues and been trying to hunt it down, I can say it almost always has to do with the AP, regardless of whether or not other devices have issues. I have about 8 different APs at my house that I have used to test across a wide variety of manufacturers. The biggest issues I have seen are tied to WPA2-PSK AES/TKIP support, and pre-N support. If the device is set to support both AES and TKIP I have seen issues. Set it to either one, it's fine. N has had major issues as well. Any AP I have tried that is Pre-N gives issues. Anything after the standard has been ratified has not had issue. It's not just A500 that I've noticed this behavior. I have a Moto Defy that acts the same way as well Smartbook. If you crank the support down to G only the issues disappears. Ironically the only device that I have had 0 issues with is my roommates Apple AP........go figure the irony on that.

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Also as far as 3.2 goes.....I've noticed the only people that are getting the 3.2 update are the ones with Gen1 devices. I have a Gen2 and have seen nothing. Maybe there was a slight hardware revision?
[Acer Iconia A500] kshfahmy:
I had really some problems after updating the device but after doing a factory reset all problems vanish.
[Acer Iconia A500] dottat:
There aren't different hardware gen versions by software update. The use of "gen" in the rom/update name appears to merely be some sort of codeword for acer and acer only.

Check out this post to see the original code lines for 3.1..

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16061585&postcount=3

Updated it to reflect the various 3.2 roms that have popped to upgrade from 3.1. I still have not seen one for the US rom line that was up to Acer_A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2.

Originally the US rom line was gen1 prior to 3.1.

If anyone was on 4.010.13 and got the update could you please post your software versions?

There is a version of 3.2 posted in the dev section that is the best bet for those wanting to try it out before a userland root exploit is figured out. It's version A500_4.010.41_7.006.01_COM_GEN1. The only thing done to this otherwise stock rom is root, custom recovery (CWM), busybox, and the new bootloader removed. This rom is ready to go and flashable from CWM which means no need to unroot and revert recoveries.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1265847

We need to have a DEV work on the other codetrain versions that exist to have a similar rom posted for each section of the world.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
No, I don't. That's my honest opinion and I stand by my words. The devs here do outstanding job considering they don't have the resources the manufacturers have. But at the end of the day, custom roms just lack proper testing. They do bring more features but if you read carefully what I have written in my post, I said they are inferior in terms of stability not features.

EDIT: If you have gone back to 3.1 you did NOT update with the stock ROM. Period. At best you updated with a near-stock ROM (with removed recovery, added superuser app, busybox and God knows what else) and in the process you should have wiped cache, etc. You are the only one who knows what you have done in the process and that's exactly why manufacturers void warranties on rooted/custom recovery devices. There are many with wifi problems you say, well there are also many that don't have them. The only way we could know if those problems are caused by Acer or by the users is to have someone that had stock unrooted 3.1 working who updated OTA with the stock 3.2 provided by Acer and started having wifi issues. Not someone who flashes every other day something cooked by anyone but Acer.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
Please delete this post.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Agreeing with the posts above - if you went from 3.2 back to 3.1, you were not using an official acer 3.2 rom - you were using one of the various 3.2 based roms that will run on the a500. You can hardly blame Acer for any troubles you may have under 3.2 unless you received the update from Acer.

On a side note; Have you tried the 3.2 based Taboonay rom? Been using it for a week and find it fast, stable,no wifi issues (I travel for work every single week and as such connect to a lot of differing routers), no lockups, no slowdowns, just a solid user experience. Have you a tried a factory reset? Perhaps in the process of manually updating to a early release of 3.2 you neglected to clear cache/battery stats/dalvik.

Best of luck!
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
That's correct. I also grabbed what is touted to be an official release straight from Acer's download site in hopes that the Email.apk was fixed. Some folks do have an official OTA update. Look, I'm not trolling here, just some observations about my disappointments. I don't drink any company's Kool Aid either.
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
So still don't know if your are useing official 3.2...? And if you are how did you go back....? As of now you can't go back.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
Could you share your steps in downgrading the official 3.2 then? It would be very helpful for the folks that updated and are now stuck without root.
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
If you have rolled back to 3.1, then you have NOT installed the official 3.2 update at all. In which case, your claiming that the email client sucks is about as watertight as a sieve.

That's not to say that it might NOT have problems, just that you're basing your conclusion on an unofficial update. Perhaps you could try asking someone who HAS installed the official update to see if they get the same problem?
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Thanks.

Yes, I'm using the 3.2 based Taboonay, with the kernel that it ships with and with custom, such as thor's kernels. I did try the full official update from Acer as well, the link to an A500 only release from Acer's servers is in the dev forum. I grabbed it, cracked it open, looked at the build.prop, and yeah, it's for the A500.

Same issues. Email.apk is faulty as well. If you're running 3.2, please try creating an email account and just try to specify the port for the incoming server. The input area is gone.

I always wipe everything before flashing a new rom. Most people have reported no issues with wifi, that's true. Some people HAVE reported issues with wifi, I'm one of them. Some people on the Asus forums have reported similar issues with wifi. Something broke, wifi is flawless on 3.1, stock or otherwise.

I do have a fix, although I'm not happy with it. Set the connection to static instead of DHCP and the problem goes away. There's a clue right there that someone "fixed" the wireless code.

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Just install CWM recovery, you can pretty much install whatever ROM you feel like using. Go to the A500 dev forum, lots of good stuff there on how to get it installed. There's an app on the market that will do it for you if you are uncomfortable with dd'ing an image.

So I have Taboonay 3.2, Taboonay 3.1, a backup of a stock 3.1, HoneyVillian 3.2 and 3.1 versions.

Clockwork Mod is the answer to that. You can't do it with Acer's stock recovery.

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How can you say that? I can roll back to whatever rom I feel like.

I HAVE installed an official update, from Acer's server. There is a link to an A500 full update on the dev forums. Some of the folks who did receive an OTA save the URL and it gets posted. Does Acer purposely put bad updates on their servers to screw us over?

Do the devs that put out custom roms deliberately sabotage Email.apk? Try it for yourself. Please read all of my posts.
[Acer Iconia A500] pacificwing:
He says it because it's true. 3.2 OTA installs a new boot-loader, which means no more root. Which means no more CWR. Which means no more custom ROM's.

Furthermore, any attempt to install an older stock ROM will brick the tablet. The new boot-loader won't allow you to boot older ROM's.

If you did install 3.2 and then rolled back, it is not official.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
If you have installed the official unmodified 3.2 ROM you'd know that it replaces the recovery with a new one that's the source of all problems regarding root. You'd have ended up with a stock recovery that accepts only signed ROMs version 7.006.01 (or whatever number Acer thought of when releasing the stock 3.2) and above. No custom ROMs, no downgrade to 3.1, no root. As I said you flashed at best a near-stock ROM that had the new recovery removed, added the stuff needed for root and supposedly has anything else intact. And in the process depending on what ROM you come from you had to wipe cache, system, etc.

Bottom line: you've never had intact stock 3.2 ROM provided by Acer.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
I always have mine set to interactive, if I'm using a custom kernel. Nothing laggy about 3.2, it runs really quickly.

I have a Buffalo router and an Apple airport. No other devices I have have issues with either router. Both are Broadcom based, I believe.

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Yes, I think it's WPA. People using WEP or nothing at all have no issues.

If you're using WEP, well, you might as well be using nothing at all :D
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
I did not feel you were trolling, and I understand your disappointment.

I would just take a step back from the issue - have you considered alternative email clients? There are plenty of rocking good ones out there.

Give it a few weeks - devs will figure out the changes to our devices caused by the Acer 3.2 ROM and come up with a billion cool ways to work around them.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
I am going to give it a few weeks. I'm fine with sticking with 3.1. Thanks for treating me like a human being.

These were just observations, disappointments, and endless experimenting keeping me from my needed sleep. There are some manufacturers that have avoided 3.2, Samsung comes to mind. Seriously, the 3.2 A501/A500 Email.apk has issues, and the alternative email clients seems to have phone in mind, not tablet. Seriously, I did install an official A500 3.2 Acer rom, less the recovery partition, wanted to keep CWM installed. Unless someone has cleverly counterfieted what I grabbed. I can live with the wifi workaround, which is setting connection to static after obtaining a connection to the router. Shouldn't have to do that, but it works.
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
but that is the rub, isn't it? As soon as it modified by anyone other than Acer, it is no longer an official Acer update... that's really what everyone here is getting at, i believe.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
Have you tried to assign a static entry for your tablet in your DHCP server? Or check if by accident you have more than one DHCP server active? Has happened to me once by restoring a router to its factory defaults and forgetting to turn it off afterwards. As for third-party clients I'm yet to find something suitable for a RSS reader, I guess its the same for mail. All are for phones and there are no tablet optimized versions :(.
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
What did you update to...? factory, coustom..?
[Acer Iconia A500] :
And there it is. NOT the official 3.2 OTA update. That's why you were able to rollback to 3.1. :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Yes, my router is set up to deliver a static IP. I haven't changed that. All of my computers, gadgets, are all set up on my router to always receive the same address. I had to do this on both sides to get wifi to stick. Most of the time it's fine, just gets annoying while streaming videos. I have the tablet set to never disconnect, even with the screen off. When i hit the button to put the screen back on, no connection. It's always there on 3.1, never a single interruption while streaming as well.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Yes, it was an official update, with the update script modified so that it did not clobber the recovery partition. If that makes it unofficial, well i stand corrected. But seriously, how does the recovery partition have any effect on a runnng system? It is still the same 3.2 code running, just won't kill CWM if i reboot.
[Acer Iconia A500] norcham:
it is possible downgrade from HC3.2 to 3.1

Its not true, i bought tablet with HC3.1, then i receive OTA 3.2 update. I put "update.zip" from stock 3.1 rom to microSd and flash back to HC3.1 version and it don't brick my tablet.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
That's dirty pool from Acer. I did grab an official 3.2 from Acer, but before I do anything I examine the contents. I did remove the bits in the update script that install a new bootloader and recovery. Aside from that, all the other 3.2 bits are installed. If the bootloader and or the recovery partition make Email.apk behave as it did in earlier versions, I would be quite surprised. If this is less than official update in your eyes, I stand corrected.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Great, someone with an OTA. Please do me a big favor. Create an email account, put in an incoming server, and try to put in a port number. I think the Android devs left out something quite important and made the incorrect assumption that all email servers operate on the same port numbers without any deviation.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
WOW. I'm sorry you don't realize that "modified" makes it an "unofficial" release.

Not sure how to put it any clearer. :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
OK, I get it. Don't appreciate your attitude, but I get it. I started this thread as non-confrontational, and all I get is finger pointing. There are plenty of people out there who are running 3.2 with and without issues. Just because an update comes from Acer, unmodified or otherwise, does not guarantee it will be bug free.

Perhaps no one noticed that Email.apk no longer has the port field for the incoming mail server simply because they just don't need it.

You can roll your eyes all you want, please explain to me how a recovery partition or a new boot loader would screw up email.apk. Also, other tablet owners, not necessarily Acer owners, are having similar problems with 3.2 and wifi. Please, I would really like a full explanation on how that would work. I will refrain from rolling my eyes.

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I can read instructions, back up, wipe, reset to factory, and install with the best of them.

Don't appreciate your attitude either. I haven't attacked anyone here, just looking for some insight. Not looking for any excuses, I have IOS, a Mac OS X system, FreeBSD, and Windows here. Sure, I looked at an iPad, but opted for the Android because I really liked the Android, and will continue to enjoy it. More freedom. Tried HoneyVillian 3.2 and Taboonay 3.2, as well as a full update from Acer that was designated for an A500. Sorry I didn't want to clobber my recovery and bootloader and snipped out those parts. That would certainly make Email.apk buggy. I'm sure of that now. :rolleyes:

Look at your email client. If you can enter a port number for the incoming server, please clue me in on how you accomplished that. Sorry I *****ed about the beloved Android system, but it certainly doesn't mean I'm going to dump it. All OS's have their bugs and problems. If you read the forums a bit, I am not the only one who is experiencing wifi issues with Taboonay to HoneyVillian.

Let me make one thing clear. If I find a problem, real or otherwise, with Android does not constitute a personal attack against any of the members of XDA, nor does it mean I'm a troll. If anyone takes a problem with Android personally, they have issues and should see a therapist.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
I'm not saying anything about your email client whatsoever.

You have people reading, and/or commenting in your thread that have done a "real" official 3.2 update that are stuck on 3.2 wanting to go back to 3.1 so they can have root available to them, but are unable to do so. And then you are saying it is possible to do so, and they're asking how you did it?!?

You installed a "modified" release of 3.2 using CWM. Which is very different than installing an "official" release of 3.2 from which there is no going back.

Have you tried extracting the email.apk from a 3.1 release that works for you, then injecting it into your "unofficial" 3.2 ROM, and then flashing to see if that works for you?

That's where I'd start, but it's just a suggestion.

;)

PS: If you don't like the tone of the responses you are receiving, maybe you should have thought about the title to your thread before posting it? ;)

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After looking through both ROMS, I'd suggest extracting the email.apk, email.odex, exchange.odex, and exchange.apk, from a good 3.1 ROM, and injecting them into your "unofficial" 3.2 ROM, then flashing it to see if that gets you what you need. ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] ChiefWilNel:
man, you guys. *****ing and complaining saying this tab sucks until you get 3.2, ***** and complain why its not out yet. then you do get it and that sucks too. btw I have no issues with 3.1 i dont see what all the fuss is. still waiting on some useful apps but I am having fun with it.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
I did post a question about email with a gentler tone in the Q+A forum and it went unanswered. Got your attention this time. I did try injecting an Email.apk from 3.1 but all it did was FC. Regardless, I wasn't attacking anyone, just expessing my opinion. Opinions seem to offend too many people these days. Evetone should lighten up. I'll stick by my guns here stating that a bootloadef ans arecovery partiton have absolutely nothing to do with a faulty apk. Good to know I was careful enough to go back.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Never sad this tab sucks. Quite the opposite, I love it. Back on 3.1, and will stay there until Acer and or the rom devs take care of these issues.

I'm *****ing about 3.2, which isn't ready for prime time, in my opinion. You don't have to agree with me, but don't get nasty and accuse me of not being able to read. I'm not accusing you of saying I can't read, but another guy certainly has.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
It FC because you didn't inject the odex with it, and or you did it after installing the ROM, and not prior to, but I can see this entire thread beginning with the title is lost on the OP.

Good luck getting what you need! ;)

Btw, I just installed your "custom" ROM with the correct files injected in before flashing, and have a place to input port numbers.
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
Thanks for the tip.
[Acer Iconia A500] eglathangion:
I am not having any of these problems... Wifi perfect - even sleeps when the screen is inactive and wakes automatically - saves massive battery.

Email - works perfectly port and all....

Look into the problems further?

I did initially have an issue with flash video but it was just set for mobile instead of desktop default. It seems this setting mucks with initialising the video. Works fine now.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
+1 for reading the instructions before flashing any rom not provided by Acer.

XDA had helped me "unbrick" my tablet twice after making mistakes in regards to flashing custom Roms. OP seems hostile and a little upset that he made some mistakes before reading. :(
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
++1111

The disagreement in this thread was the open was misleading. Thou not intentional. Kept stating flashed Stock unmodified rom.

When infact he did modify it.

Everyone was just asking.what he did differently as thinking.he found a.real solution.

Open lighten up work with the guys they all have been here forever and like myself Read the threads.

Good luck and thanks for the information. At least there is a way to 3.2 and be rooted.I must have ad-hoc support

HUGGS GUYS Pass some love around for XDA
[Acer Iconia A500] bleez99:
No mistakes made here. The only mistake I made was a poor choice of words, and expecting friendly people here on the forums.