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[Desire HD Android Development] krzych:
@lambomanx1 - please, DO NOT OFF TOPIC.

If you don't like the idea of having better hardware, just go away.

@tolis626 - don't feed you know who. But back to the point - yep, we would like to have this possibility. Best would be as optional overclocking as always, who does not want it, just do not touch it. Althought I'm a dev, I do not know much about cell hardware, so I'm useless, but I would be happy to see someone works on this topic. Maybe you should talk to Lee again, but I doubt he would be happy to work on our "old" hardware while maintaining LeeDroid on both of his phones. So, idea is great, but I thing it will fail if we won't find a dev which knows the hardware and has no access to better than DHD ;). And there are _big_ chances that Lee had right saying it's simply impossible, but it's worth checking again.
[Desire HD Android Development] tolis626:
Lee is an awesome guy who I think will help if he has time.I even convinced him to give us the first 1.8GHz kernel for the DHD once. :cool:

Maybe we should also contact LordClockan.He is an awesome kernel developer with good knowledge of DHD's hardware. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kcyen18:
Hi all,

I have a general question regarding the capacitive buttons.

Is it possible to switch the "home" button and "settings" button?

is that something a rom could do or its impossible?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
You probably mean home and menu and you are probably coming from an evo or evo 3d huh? Good question nonetheless but I don't have an answer, just replying because I'm probably going to mistake those two buttons myself coming from the OG Evo, lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kcyen18:
hah you got it right, coming from evo 4g and 3d.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I went through with this when I got my NS4G from an E4G and then E3D before...

...give it a day and you won't even notice. I was just as disoriented when I went back to an E3D a few weeks later.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frrambo:
but... it seems to have changed the behavior of my keyboard dock. The tab no longer recognizes it instantly and a couple keys have been remapped: the " and @ have exchanged places and the pound hash has been replaced with a pound sterling.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas to correct it?

I used the "official" Verizon 2.3.4 update posted by oldmacnut here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1207041
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jbroad572:
I've got my network unsecured and no broadcast, but just says "not in range" with the GS2. Hopefully will be resolved with another kernel. Remember having this problem only on a few roms with the OG Evo
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
I have been on xda for a little over a year. It is the site I come to first for anything. The minds at work here have helped me make my Evo the fantastic old school device it is now. But my friends and I have came to the conclusion that there is a LOT of arguing and bickering. It seems to be an issue.

My suggestion? Keep the site as is. Access can stay the same. But only allow people that pay, say .99 xda enrollment fee, to be able to download and/post. Make it just as readable as it currently is. Allow the trolls to read posts and hate quietly. Leave it to the people that are here for development or modifications. It should trim down a lot of the general crybabies and arguementative people. They will still be there, but not as many, and either way xda as a whole wins. At .99 a memeber you would be able to enjoy such downloads as apks, posting about topics, etc.
[About XDA developers] abn75:
That would probably be a great way to drive of devs from this site. Going to make them pay to post, make people pay to get their roms apps etc. They could go to different sites or open their own, which is what would happen
[About XDA developers] TheNetwork:
Pay to post? I mean I knew this was going to be a horrible idea from the title, but I didn't expect "Don't let anyone post unless they pay!"
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
I don't think so. Lots of people pay .99 for so silly app all the time. I'm merely making a suggestion to help clear the clutter. If u haven't notice, some devs have already left...due to bickering. Whining. I know of countless people who would gladly come to a little more refined site. And no, a paid membership would keep all the trash out but it definitely would cut it down.

To ad to this, please moderators or devs please don't take offense to this post. I love xda. This is a great site. I felt I came to the right forum w a decent idea. I do not expect this idea implemented but I feel as though it shouldn't be discarded but at least looked into. I understand the size of this site and am not looking to disrespect any member of this board. But I would gladly pay for a little exclusivity if it meant in the long run that the social a developmental needs were being better met.
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
It would be as a membership fee. Pay to post is all you have read? Haha. I've watched people buy apps for $2 and never use them. You say .99 is too much? Maybe its xda that's all too glad to accept everyone when in truth that's not always the right approach due to abusers of privilege. Most paid just for xda premium unless they ripped it of some site. I have accrued way more than .99 worth of knowledge. This is simply food for thought. Its not really about money. My idea just seemed simple and an extremely easy way to solve many mild issues. I can deal with it as free is great for me. But I personally would be more than willing to, due to the resources xda offers alone is enough.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
While this isnt the worst idea I've ever heard I do think its a little extreme. :p

In my opinion the best way to deal with these problem users is for diligent and well intentioned members such as yourselves to make full use of the report post function and let us deal with any issues that might arise.

I also think that there needs to be a little understanding of the fact that this is the internet and it is crawling with trolls....

We will deal with problematic users but we need your help and for people to understand that although we endeavour to deal with any situation as quickly as possible, we simply cannot catch every little thing right there and then.

Also, if you see a member who is clearly out to cause drama and controversy...

Dont feed the troll. If everyone made more of an effort to simply ignore these idiots then they'd get bored pretty quickly...

In the words of the prophets Bill & Ted....
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
What about minors who use this site (like me) ?

Infused with CM7 with my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
I appreciate the earnest response. I just thought I would bring this up.

I'm not age discriminate, as I am only 30.

I definitely try not to fuel the trolls. I also see this site to be a place that prides itself on being open. So, I can let it go. Glad I at least was able to rant a little haha.
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
Hehehe I'm glad that you can suppress your anger.....

I will fail on that :p

Infused with CM7 for the Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[About XDA developers] Delanoister:
What do u wanna make for tis?
[About XDA developers] jazux:
I think that is horrible idea and i would definetly leave xda then.

Think about the minors and people with no credit cards!

Just my opinion
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
Lol ^ what would the minors do that own smart phones and no debit cards. Haha what are you on wic?

Edit: this comment is not directed nor intended to offend people on wic. But if you have a smartphone and no debit card of any sort then you

A) live w your parents

B) sell lots of drugs and banks aren't of interest

C) form your own opinion about a and b and get back to me :-)
[About XDA developers] Bierce22:
yes i agree 100% that this is a bad idea xda has always been about promoting open source if u make people pay to use the site then it would be one of the most contradicting things ive ever seen.

Also as compared to other website like ppcgeeks and android forums xda is far more organized and set up better i think its just fine the way it is.

on another note when i read the title u came of as a troll right away u might want to reward that a little.
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
That's funny. Well, none of it was meant to be taken any wrong way. Merely a suggestion. That's what the forums are here for.

Like it or not my idea will never come to fruition but I still would gladly pay. Anyone that argues or complains or suggests its outrageous should look at how much knowledge is worth.

We will all have our own ideas and opinions and in the end .99 isn't **** to be a member of an elite site such as xda. Which I will gladly accept and enjoy my free membership. And if it ever were to change, I wouldn't complain one bit :-)
[About XDA developers] mad96:
If trying to come up with a creative solution is considered being a troll then I think about 100% of users on this site fall in that category. Maybe have a 3 strike and your banned policy if you get reported for unruly behavior 3 times then boom access denied! That might make folks think twice before bashing someone who is just trying to learn.
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
Good idea . But what if:

-Trolls report you and you got banned ?

-Members who register just to report everyone ?

Infused with CM7 for Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[About XDA developers] nrfitchett4:
agreed. You can get prepaid credit cards for free now. Just go to the local grocery store.

I actually wouldn't mind this, the same way I don't mind paying for my apps or my mediafire acct. I don't think 10 bucks a year registration fee would be unreasonable.

But it would never happen for the reasons already listed. Open source might be free, but the devices are not, and people don't seem to mind dropping 600 bucks on the next latest and greatest.

As a side note for the minors, I have actually considered getting my kids prepaid debit cards that are reloadable for their allowance. It's a digital age. People that still write checks at walmart drive me crazy. They are processed as a debit and given right back!!!
[About XDA developers] SXUsr:
More mods imo, because looking at this LIST it explains why the main two forums I've used while being a member here are such a mess.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
On their way....

Just finishing up in boot camp and should hit the forums very shortly.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] abn75:
Boot camp huh. They have a boot camp to teach them how, not exactly when but how, to use the lock delete and ban buttons?

Yeah I'm a little sour. Seen to many threads locked for no reason, just as many deleted.
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
Debit cards huh ? I don't think there are such things in Singapore .

Infused with CM7 for Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[About XDA developers] stkiswr:
I guess I'm thinking small scale. Didn't occur to me overseas. I just figured if you had a smartphone...with apps, that you would have credit/debit access
[About XDA developers] TheMyth:
All the other forums that I get on have the same problem with ppl's nonsense.... All those forums made it where you had to have so many reps or thanks before you could access certain areas or have certain functions. I also think that it would be beneficial to have some sort of trial time before letting nubies spam up someone's thread. Then maybe they would be alil more grateful for the time that dev's and others has put into their work.... Just my cents there....
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
Oops my fault . There are debit cards but only for people with a yearly salary of $35000+ and above (if I'm not mistaken)

Forever living in my Galaxy Ace using XDA App
[About XDA developers] kabecilhas:
Since I know the xda, the site is always the same look.

On forums, scroll down, etc....

It will be easy if the Admin, create tabs with the mark.

Ex: LG: O2X, O2G, etc...

Samsung: Galaxy s, Galaxy s2, Etc...

HTC: Evo 3D, Sensation, etc...

ETC.....

I hope you guys understand.

Sorry for may bad english
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Try the device finder at the top :) and try compact mode for the index
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
There is a guide online to edit the local.prop file to not force a camera sound, but, ****, we're not rooted so we can't use it. Anyone!?

Update 09/18: Thanks to the amazing zedomax and his root method, you can create a file called "local.prop" on your phone under the /data/ directory and place the code "ro.camera.sound.forced=0" without the quotes in it and reboot and be good to go. In other words:

1. Create a file called local.prop on your device in /data/.

2. Place the line of code ro.camera.sound.forced=0 in the file local.prop and hit Save.

3. Make sure it's in the /data/ folder.

4. Reboot.

5. Enjoy not having that ****ing shotgun blast in your ear every time you want to snap a photo.

Want to revert to stock? Change the code in the file to ro.camera.sound.forced=1.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
wait for root...I imagine it won't take too long.

btw, has anyone tried the SGS2 rooting methods yet?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
But... It's too damn annoying. And the stock messaging app is so childish
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kn0wBuddy:
Some have indicated that on the latest camera update for the SGSII, putting the phone on silent or vibrate disables camera sounds. Does this work on the E4GT out of the box?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
Its loud as ****!! Sounds like a pistol going off lol

sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
wow, lol, I can't wait to try it. charging while off as we speak. this is torture.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hanson68:
I think this is done to comply with Korean and Japanese law that digital camera must have audible sounds to prevent voyeurs from secretly taking pictures. They have tossed this idea around in the States.

http://betanews.com/2009/01/28/us-cell-phone-camera-law-might-not-really-click/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Yeah, it is built into the Camera.apk. You have to delete the sound file which can only be done by rooting it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] irev210:
this is annoying... why do phone makers force this on us?

Seriously... if I wanted to take inappropriate photos, I would make sure to go out of my way to get a camera that had no shutter noise.

This accomplishes nothing but is extremely annoying.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hanson68:
What I was getting at was that instead of having multiple camera apps per country, they just have one universal apk that follows Korean law.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kkwus74:
Install enforced stream silencer... It should work... Works great on the photon4g
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kn0wBuddy:
Blade Buddy was also recommended from the SGSII forums... have not tried it yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kkwus74:
Thought blade buddy needs root?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kn0wBuddy:
Hmm... yes, it looks like you are correct.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kkwus74:
I installed stream silencer on my photon4g and it doesn't need root to work :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
Where doI get the enforced stream silencer? Can you link me?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kkwus74:
I forgot where I got it from but ill try upload the apk in abit
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kkwus74:
Here you go:-) enjoy:p

http://db.tt/p9ysVyD
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] manekineko:
I just tried it, and doesn't seem to work for me. It was working great for me back on the Photon, but not here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kkwus74:
Hmm... Then I'm not sure... Don't know of any other way without root lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] alnova1:
I must be missing something but it really doesn't seem that loud to me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
Not only is it very loud but it's very annoying
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] alnova1:
To each his own...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lazloe:
I take pictures of animals and nature a lot. A loud ass camera click will often ruin any scene I am photographing. Usually my cats or wildlife in my yard.

They use the voyeur excuse but that doesnt fly. There are plenty of digital only cameras on the market that are far more useful for that than a 3x5 inch electronic pad..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thekarens:
Ditto! We get zillions of hummingbirds in our yard this time of year. If you're quiet you can get pics with your phone just a couple feet away from them. A loud click though will ruin every freaking shot :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
This camera is unbelievably powerful and amazing looking, but, holy **** - I am so frustrated with this deathly sound. Someone help us!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
I'm a photographer and the pix taken in the engadget review, I was blown away..

http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-epic-4g-touch-camera-samples/#4444168

And while you are at it, please like my page! Www.facebook.com/poeticroguephotography

But on topic, this shutter is quiet compared to my Photon. Sounded like a 50Cal

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
We need to find out a way to silence this thing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
Fixed! Check the OP for information on how to get rid of the annoying sound.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nyckrs:
So do we need to be rooted to do this? what do we use to create the local.prop file?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmbatson:
So for example you just go on to root explorer then go to /data

Menu< more < New File. Then name it local.prop when finished open file enter that line of code.

just clarifying. pretty tired.

thank you for your help!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
You know what, actually, **** - that doesn't work.

I even tried to edit the /system/build.prop file and writing a new line of ro.camera.forced.sound=0 and still nothing. Tried Blade Buddy, nothing.

Even went and deleted all the Camera files from /system/audio/media/ui and still have the Autofocus sound which I know is in the stock Camera.apk.

Anyone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vikramjatt11:
once ur rooted, open up ur titanium backup, restore your AOSP camera, and VOILA! no more sound! lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmbatson:
"If you are rooted, you can rename the ogg file and it won't play. File is in /system/media/audio/ui" Its the Shutter sound. Just rename it.

=D

source -> Yahoo Answers

just did it and works.

seems like a temp fix till devs find out a good way to axe it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
What do you mean? The Camera on the Epic Touch 4G is not AOSP. Can you elaborate on what you meant?

I deleted the shutter files too. However, the even just-as-annoying auto focus is still there. I did some research on the GSII international forum, and they were editing the build.prop and local.prop to get it working with no autofocus sound. I did that, still no go.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1079136

---------- Post added at 09:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 PM ----------

I'm also realizing that the Autofocus sounds are in the Camera.apk, but there's no way for me to edit those because that will make the Camera.apk not installable, since it loses it signature. Any ideas?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmbatson:
So you have no files for the shutter sound but it is still making the sound?

I made a backup of the camera app right now with titanium and going to try to mod it to not make the auto focus or countdown sound.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
I don't have the Shutter sound, since I deleted those from the media/ui folder. The autofocus sound is killing me though, because it is buried in the Camera.apk. I found them in there, but I can't find a way to make the Camera.apk "stable" after deleting or renaming those files.

If you can somehow mod the Camera.apk and take out the countdown/auto focus sound(s), I will be eternally indebted to you. It's driving me crazy because I've just spent this much time on it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wicked_co:
I'm wishing a fix comes along where I don't have to root. I turned the sound off first thing on my old Epic but I am stuck with it on the Epic touch/galaxy tab 10.1 :mad:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 00Soul:
I'm hoping so too. I'm new to Android and I'm not sure I'm tech enough to root my e4gt.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] enormous:
I renamed this one and it worked!

/system/media/ui/audio/ Shutter_01.ogg
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
Yes, that does silence the "shotgun shutter" in many applications including stock Camera.apk, but the "auto focus" sounds in the stock Camera.apk cannot be removed without modifying the Camera.apk. Sigh.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] enormous:
Oh. Sorry. :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Funkquito:
Did the steps..checked the spelling and everything and it did not work for me
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Why doesn't someone fix the camera.apk
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vikramjatt11:
i did fix the camera.apk, but once its fixed... the phone wont let u install the new apk (didnt work even if i placed it whereever it goes, and reboot, there is still no camera.apk)... i tried everything, it didnt work...

i have attached the original camera.apk pulled from our phones, and the edited version, if any1 wants to work on it....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Are you rooted? Cause you can't install the camera.apk. You have to delete it from system and replace it with the fixed then reboot. Not data
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vikramjatt11:
yes i am rooted, i pulled the apk, edited it, deleted original Camera.apk from system, replaced with new Camera.apk, then rebooted... and nothing happened... i also tried to replace the camera.apk from titanium backup, and it didnt restore

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edit: i also tried to resign the new apk (thinking its not working cause it hasnt been signed), but that didnt work either... maybe i dont know how 2 sign?? the tool to sign was simple... if any1 smarter than me in this area wants to try, please do :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] enormous:
Did you wipe cache and dalvic cache when you rebooted? Not sure if it will help, but I always wipe those when making any type of change to /system.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skribbles505:
I've tried replacing the stock app and had no luck either but now for some reason I don't have the camera app showing at all on the phone. If I look in root explorer camera.apk and camera.odex are there. I've tried clearing the cache and no luck there either. So for now I have no camera , I did install fast burst camera and it works fine, but I really want the stock app back.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oxeneers:
I think this is because we need a deodexed ROM before we can replace system files.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vikramjatt11:
We now have a deodexed rom in the development section, but i dont want to root my new sgs2 (waiting for development to grow),so if any1 else already rooted wants to flash the deodexed rom and try this. Please do and report back.