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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t0t:
Hey guys, got a question - total noob here so bear with me! :D

At work, i am CONSTANTLY roaming, I mean all day, either I roam or I get 1 bar at the most, the data is abysmal. Would I be better off getting an airrave (i was told by a sprint rep airraves only help with voice, not data) or upping this new 1115 PRL to my phone so I can roam on verizons towers? I live in Nevada..

Im not comfortable with rooting quite yet - so a new PRL and roam control arent yet an option (wish I could use roam control without rooting!!)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
I've never timed it but it does take a minute or two.

You have been misinformed.

http://www.batonrougebroadband.info/Sprint_11115.txt

If you can put an airvana in at work I'd do that. I have one and love it. And the latest one does do 3G data.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t0t:
nice! do any help with 4g? Lol, or is that a lost cause if youre not in a good area?

Im not neccesarily sure if its an airvana, he just said an airrave, im guessing theres different types?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
I successfully flashed 11115 to my phone (it showed in settings). When I roam with roam control I was unable to connect to 3g. Voice worked perfectly like usual but no 3g. Than when switched it back to home and did a speed test my sprint 3g slowed from a 1000 kb/s to a 400 kb/s. I than updated the prl and went back to 60681. I did the speed test again and it shot right back up to 60681. So I think I'm going to stick with 60681 and enjoy normal sprint 3g speeds.

Note:

I did the proxy fix that changed proxy to 0.0.0.0 to achieve the faster 3g. Before I did this trick I was averaging 500 kb/s.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Sprint is the only carrier using wimax so there is no roaming.

There is a newer airwave called the airvana which does 3G data. The older one did not. The only one sprint currently sells is the newer one.

Sounds like you might be in an area where the data signal the roaming carrier is sending out is on the PCS band which our sammy phones can't roam on.

speedtest results can very greatly, I do 10 tests in each senerio and average before making a comparison.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t0t:
Oh gotcha, well I meant, do the airvana help with 4g at all?

hopefully i get one of the newer ones :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
Your problem is going to be that your phone will tend to want to stay connected to that weak Sprint signal rather than roam onto the strong Verizon (or whoever) signal. You can't force it to roam without Roam Control.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
4g no
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] klub242:
Weird thing I just noticed. Last night at home I was able to get 2-3 mbps roaming on Verizon's 3G, now at work 4 miles away with just as good of reception (about the bars) I'm getting awful speeds. Kind of weird. Anyone know why?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Different time, different load, different tower,
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] klub242:
Yeah, but literally 100x the speed difference? I mean 2-3 mbps vs 20-30 kbps doesn't sound like just that. Of course I'm also getting about 20-40 kbps down on Sprint if I'm on 3G and that doesn't seem quite right either.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Are you comparing sprint to verizon?

But either way I get 1.3mbs at 1am on a certain tower that I get 400kbs during the day.

If your comparing two different towers on the same network you can get very different speeds if one is more congested than the other. If your comparing two different networks, then yeah you can see drastic differences.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bman55:
Updates your profile in settings.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] saj070:
I did that still no luck :(:(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdgtcc:
Im running 11115 with Calkulins v2.0.1a, EL13 modem - standard 3g seems normal per netmonitor shows me on Sprint), roaming Im only on 1x VZ (Per netmonitor). This doesnt seem to be any different than my stock PRL. Im in the NY Tri State area if that helps. Is this normal or am I missing something?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blizhu:
I found this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=704772 which is about verizon roaming on HTC touch pro 2. The method is to create a new nam profile with verizon prl, and choose the nam when you want to roam. It does not even need a restart. Does Epic Touch have a similar method? I only want to roam when I could not get good Sprint coverage, but Roam Control does not work on my phone with Calkulin's v2.8.1 [ EL29 rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KBizzle:
I'm running the same setup and roam control works for me. What's happening when you try to use it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Did you read OP?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blizhu:
Nothing happens when I set the phone to roaming only in roam control. I confirmed that I'm still connected to Sprint towers with net monitor. By the way, I'm using Sprint official prl 60683. Is this be the reason why that Roam Control does not work? I remember I saw someone got it to work with stock prl so I did not upload the custom prls yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] redefinedM3:
That's awesome. How often should this be done? Any clue how often cell towers are put up or changed around that you'd benefit from this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Ill be using less than 400 Mb's this billing cycle on 0001, think I'll get flagged or throttled?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] quick99si:
I don't think you'll get flagged or throttled, you're more likely to get booted without a warning. A good mindset to have IMO is to assume that any roaming is reason to kick you off, otherwise you may get greedy and start to push the limit.

What kind of speed improvements do you see in 3G data in your area?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Using 0001 the data speed is more consistent and the voice is clearer, no dropped calls and connects every time. What I mean by consistent is when I try and load a page it WILL load, not sit for a minute or two while I see the data icons active when using sprint. Using 0001 everything works as it should, the speed of the connection is noticeably better. Im not asking for 10 mb down, but not at a snails pace either where the phone is basically unusable.

I don't want to get booted, that's why im trying to use 3g data sparingly. I think under 400 mb is the smallest amount I've ever used (typically 3-5 gigs during a billing cycle). Im not streaming video, downloading or anything like that. Mainly streaming radio in my car or using NAV, which is a pain in the ass with sprint data, the streaming would constantly buffer and would take forever for a map to load.

Like I said I don't really want to get booted, because of the great prices and I have three lines with them, but I can't handle the slow unreliable 3g Sprint offers.

End rant.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kireol:
Sprint has abandoned Detroit, MI area. Not even the city, the entire SE michigan area.

I've called them again and again. Explained to them again and again that even their local corp store near me knows Sprint sucks.

Waiting for my contract to end.

I LITERALLY get dial up modem speeds (55 mbps) on my "4G" phone while AT&T gets 6000 mbps on iPhone (3G) in Detroit.

Detroit

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Sprint: 55 mbps (with 5 full bars)

AT&T: 6000 mpbs

Verizon LTE: 25000 mbps

Tmobile 4G: 18000 mpbs

Metro PCS: 12000 mpbs

Sprint is a joke.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSkylla:
25000 Mbps? Sign me up for that bro.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TNumber5:
25000 Mbps!!! :eek:

:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ejlmd:
I'm running CalKulin 2.8.1 latest EL29 ROM with Rogue EL29 kernel and EL29 modem.

After uploading 1115 PRL and force roaming using Roam Control I get voice but no data at all on Verizon (that is, not even 1x). On Sprint I get voice and 3G data as usual. Does not resolve after reboot or updating profile.

When I update back to 60683 I get 1x data again on Verizon.

I'm in Northern NJ. Does that have something to do with it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] davidc23:
Hey guys, I'm in Georgia and my speeds like like 200 kpb/s at home... I was wondering which prl Is the best and what's the limit on data I can use? I'm o a family plan and i don't want to ruin my family's account!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
You just compared sprints 3g to carriers 4G network. Gtfo fallacy crap
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSkylla:
North jersey here, too. The 15 and 14 PRLs do not work here. If you want 3G roaming, you need the 01 PRL. Just know that you will be roaming 24/7 on that PRL.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
i'm not 100% sure.. but i believe the 00001 prl is just a vzw prl thats been edited so that no towers show roaming on a sprint phone. this is done by setting the roaming indicator of every sid to 1. setting roaming indicator to '1' on a sprint device will turn the roaming indicator off for that specific sid. the 0001 file has been passed around for awhile now.. i think its old. newer vzw prls have come out since.

to edit any prl file you use qpst rl editor...

i am attaching a very current vzw prl(52644) that has been edited to not show roaming on a sprint device. download... unzip... write with qpst service programming.

i'm not saying it's better than 00001.. or that i'm even right about what the 00001 prl is... but if i AM right then this file may help you when 00001 just doesnt seem to be working for you. maybe there's an updated tower to help you out.

you can use the above info along with http://ifast.org/files/NationalSID.htm to edit ANY cdma prl...

hit the thanks button if it helped ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
how are you guys able to get roam control working?

im on calks 2.8.1 and el13 modem. hit roam... allow su.. nothing happens...

i'm working on a new prl that would be ideal to switch but i am unable to force roaming so its hard to test.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Is that their most current prl?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
most current that i've found and publicly mentioned... but there might be newer prl's in select cases.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I'm running it now. Speeds are much better than roaming on 11115 or 00001. But I can't tell if I'm actually on Verizon network or not.

Any site that can tell me?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Also... Did you switch it so that when you lose Verizon service you pick up its roaming agreements with Sprint?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
ya look up the sid youre on in ##DEBUG# mode on the website i linked to a page back.

nope.. and the 00001 file doesnt have it either.. that's all i was replacing. i'm building a personal custom prl that will have those features but i am unable to test.. roam control wont force roaming for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Autoprime you are correct about 00001.

What version of roam control are you using? Im on 1.4
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ejlmd:
Autoprime, this is the link to Roam Control website since the app has been removed from Google Market

http://www.roamctrl.com/

I had originally purchased v2.1 through Google Market and recently upgraded to v2.2 from this website. My first attempt resulted in some force closes of the app. Then I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled and it's working fine now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
AutoPrime, you have to use the paid version of RoamControl... Or look for version 1.4 it will work also.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
thanks for the input guys. i was able to get 1.4 working.. but i think i may end up buying the latest paid version. but maybe not. im having issues loading a verizon prl and getting roam control to work.

what i wanted to do was take the latest verizon prl and set it so all the verizon towers are default and dont show up as roaming on our sprint phones. part one complete.. nothing fancy. what im also trying to add is ALL of the sprint home towers and their appropriate frequencies and set those towers as "roaming". so whenever we force roaming we could safely be back on sprint and not worry about data roaming overages.

the prl is 90% finished but i cant get roam control to get the phone to switch from the "home" verizon tower to the "roaming" Sprint tower. the radio turns off for a moment as if it were going to switch but then it goes back to the home verizon tower.

the reason im building it based off the verizon prl is because im using a verizon data profile on my phone.. so i wont have to worry about data roaming. maybe i can build something off 11115 that would still work for me... or maybe someone might understand why roam control and the verizon prl's dont like to work together? i even set the verizon roaming indicators to match what sprint uses but still no go.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
I am totally interested... Autoprime care to share the custom prl once completed?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
I don't think it'll work due to the no roaming on PCS band samsung bug.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmchssc:
I think the PCS roaming bug has been fixed, actually. I used to not get data roaming in Florida, but after one of the EL updates, it started working (including EVDO with the 11115 PRL). Roam Control doesn't seem to have implemented it though, because it doesn't work when I'm there. Even if I switch Roam Control to roam only while my phone is roaming, it just goes to no signal. It works when I'm in Boston, so I know it's not my fault.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
PCS (1900MHz) roaming is not something that Roam Control could fix or not fix. It is outside the control of Roam Control. If you have it fixed in some radio/kernel/ROM combination you are using, then it would be fixed for Roam Control as well. If it isn't fixed for Roam Control, then I would question whether it is fixed at all.

BTW the PCS roaming problem doesn't mean you won't get roaming. You just won't get roaming for PCS frequencies. If you use 11115, much of the roaming is with Verizon, which has both CLR and PCS so your roaming would work fine with CLR.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
ok.. makes sense. perhaps ill try to build something reverse then.. based off 11115 but adding more 800mhz roaming towers.

could anyone elaborate on the exact reason we are unable to roam on the pcs band? is it a hardware limitation? samsung being silly?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If I had to hazard a guess it is probably a radio firmware bug that never got fixed because it wasn't escalated to the right people and Sprint doesn't care to make roaming any easier so has no motivation to get it fixed.

It's been there for a couple of Sprint Samsung phones, so I imagine if they wanted to fix it, it would have been fixed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmchssc:
What would explain the fact that roaming works without Roam Control, but once I try to use it for roaming, I get no service? This only happens in places that I didn't previously get data roaming and are places noted on the Roam Control FAQ to only have PCS band roaming available.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ejlmd:
Autoprime, you're really onto some good efforts here. I feel like you're close to something really outstanding with your custom PRL.

After I change to your custom 9999 PRL from 60683, while at home my latency goes from 80ms to about 160ms, but 3G downloads go up from 900-1000k/s to about 1500-1600k/s.

At work, there is very poor verizon coverage. Using 9999 PRL I get only 1 bar of signal and 1x data, with or without Roam Control enabled. Using 60683 natively at work I get about 3 bars of signal and 3G with about 700-800k/s.

Using 1115, when I enable Roam Control, I lose data completely (no 3G or 1x).

It would be ideal, as you suggested, to "reverse" roam onto Sprint's 3G data network as well as voice when there is poor Verizon coverage.

Thanks again for your hard work on these custom PRLs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
We are not allowed to. Sprint has agreements with Alltel to allow roaming onto their towers only, not Verizon's. Verizon owns the 1900 spectrum, Alltel owned the 800 spectrum
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Give me the SID for the area you are talking about and which PRL you are using and I'll try to take a look.

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You have roaming agreements with Verizon also. It just costs more so Sprint chooses not to make it available for consumer accounts.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I don't think so... Sprint never had an agreement with Verizon... Ever. The only ones who ever had agreements were Sprint and Alltel
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
By the way... I don't know why, but I love this thread! Thanx Fellas!:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Explain the Sprint business account PRL with Verizon as the primary roaming partner in many areas. You think Sprint business accounts are just Roaming "for free" on Verizon?

Explain why the consumer PRL has roaming with Cricket, MetroPCS, and US Cellular, if Alltel is the only one there was ever an agreement with.

Please stop making stuff up. We can see the roaming partners in the PRL decodes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Shut up. Verizon owns Alltel now. And Sprint has agreements with Alltel only between the two, I wasn't including anyone else. I know Sprint has roaming agreements with numerous carriers all across the states.

Verizon does not allow for their 1900 mhz frequency to be used on Sprint because they don't have an agreement with them to use it. Verizon does recognize Sprint's agreement with Alltel so they allow them to roam onto Verizon's 800mhz frequency.

Think this through before you go forward with the argument. I know what goes on behind the scenes at sprint. Do you? There's your explanation why there is Verizon is a primary partner in some areas, because it is fulfilling Alltel's roaming agreements. It is now called "Verizon" because they own Alltel now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Also for everyone else's info, Alltel is really 850mhz and Nextel is truly 900mhz. Sprint sold off their low end 800mhz to the government
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] autoprime:
the 11115 PRL for sprint has verizon sids listed in it for roaming... these are original home verizon towers.. not rebranded alltel sids. take the philadelphia verizon sid for example... 8

also.. back to my question of whats stopping samsungs from roaming on pcs bands... cant HTC devices roam on PCS bands? as well as other brands.. so its an issue specific to samsung, no? i guess its the firmware thats been so heavily customized for sprint thats getting in the way of things.

and isnt nextel 809-815/854-860 MHz? which would fall under the 800mhz category.

http://bit.ly/zJaXu0

http://bit.ly/yedoZ2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Think before you speak.

CLR is 850MHz, but Nextel esmr is still 800MHz, they just got the spectrum reorganized for the emergency services.

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Apparently you do not.

These are Verizon primary SIDs we are talking about. Areas where Alltel never had a presence.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
You know, now I can't remember where the documents I read about the Nextel frequencies were and which ones the government bought. They were stored somewhere on Sprint's ISC, but I can't find them now...in fact I can't find anything on Nextel anymore.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
This has a graphical representation of the 800MHz rebanding that is happening. iirc nextel actually put in around 500m to get this done. There was interference between nextel and public safety radio systems.

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Rebanding
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] WhiteWidows:
A warning that should be posted in the OP. When forcing 24/7 roam your unlimited mobile to mobile no longer applies. Therefore if you are not on an unlimited everything plan all calls will be assessed against your anytime minutes.

I fount out the hard way when I got my bill this month and it was $400. Im in the process of trying to get it reverted but Its not looking good at this point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Minutes.....ha! Something I don't have to worry about.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
Yea i use almost all my 1500 minutes too i want to get the boot on this line and keep the main one but its been three months and no go. Maybe i dont use enough data, on prl 0001 i get 125 kbs so its still bad inside thank god for my wifi or i would have gone crazy. I'm going yo end up selling to pay my etf if i don't get kicked.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rob4828:
If I'm understanding this correctly if I flash 9999 I will automatically roam but sprint wont know that I am. Is that correct?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jonlee83:
+1
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Sprint will account for your roaming no matter what PRL you install.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] knives of ice:
ok i purchased roam control and i'm using version 2.2 i believe. loaded the 1115 prl but when i use roam control to force roaming it will not roam on 3g even though i'm in a clear 3g area with a very strong signal.

any advice on how i can get 3g roaming working?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] scarmon25:
Just a quick question. I flashed stock and loaded the 11115 PRL and then flash my CM7 setup. Now the PRL stuck like it should but does Roam Control work on AOSP? I'm gonna ask this in the CM7 thread also as wasn't sure where to put it. Any insight is much appreciated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
This is a known issue with no current fix.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmchssc:
Sometimes I get 3G when I use roam control, but often I don't. When my phone roams "naturally" I get 3G probably 80% of the time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
To all who are having issues with the 1115 PRL and not receiving 3G speeds. How are you verifying that you are in fact receiving 1x speeds and not 3g.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
##debug# => data status
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ungovernable1977:
What is the known issue... Custom prl plus CM or roam control plus CM? Both? Asked about this and some other things in the other sites thread for cm7 and got nothing... Looks more like a teen chat thread than one for a rom... Anyways... Im having issues w roam control... Flashed cm7, found roam control back on the market... Installed new version.. Cm took a dump and i got no help so i flashed over to current blazer and now both on this and newest stock build roam control is getting whack license issues.

Ugh.... Cmon 'network vision'
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
For some reason that I cannot figure out, Roam Control successfully forces the E4gT to roam, but it will not roam on 3g, even if you have a PRL that allows 3g roaming. If the E4gT roams naturally with a PRL that allows 3g roaming, it can roam on 3g.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Volcom1600:
[PRL] et4g_sp.61083

Updated .rl0 for those interested! This should be the latest Corporate prl:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
Hey volcom, which prl is this?!?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] scarmon25:
The new PRL seems to be doing fine, I haven't had a chance to really test it and see if it allows full 3G roaming or not. I have noticed that sometimes it still shows 1X but my net speeds would suggest I am still on 3G. I will post back when I get more info. But I would also like to make sure from the OP what the PRL consist of. It being a corp PRL I am assuming it is like 11115 just with updated info.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] grandmastem:
Question... did you rename the extension to .prl, or did you just odin it with .rl0? I am going to give this a try, but want to make sure I have the right file name.

I am very curious where this file came from and what exactly it is... I hope it is just an updated version of 1115.

-Grand
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSkylla:
I think you should rename it to .prl. I tried to upload it quickly last night (when I was dead tired) and it didn't seem to stick. I'll give it another try right now, renaming it this time.

Edit------

I renamed it, uploaded with QPST and it still didn't stick. PRL version is the (default) 61083.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ejlmd:
I tried it twice, before and after renaming to .prl, but still didn't stick for me.