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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Can someone please comment on the shutter lag compared to the EVO 3D which takes like 3 minutes to snap a picture. Is it instantaneous with the SGS2?

I have a 1 year old and snapping a picture of him with the 3D was pointless because of the lag. Hoping I can get pictures of him when I get my SGS2.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Half second I timed it. Quicker than any cell phone camera I've had

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Pics of my real camera and my sisters mini shoot

Check me out and like my page please

Www.facebook.com/poeticroguephotography

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SouthPhilly:
One of my specials from last nights dinner service.

Took this one at U of Penn last week.

100# Halibut

Sent to you from my SGS2 Class Star Fighter.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
The Backyard
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DarkPhoenix:
Great pic!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pewipo123:
out the window of my train...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
That's cool. Ever get nervous of someone getting stuck on the tracks?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DarkPhoenix:
Just a little snow.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bielinsk:
Here is a photo I took last night at a country bar. The lighting was incredible. This was simply the stock camera app, no tweaks or filters.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigtoysrock:
Central Texas sunset
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoonJames:
Here is my 21st birthday at my favorite restraunt. Khan's Grill.

And my future bike

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SoulMan72:
Here is a pic I took with my Epic and the Pano app.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
@Soul - Nice pic!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
EDIT: Wow, these look like **** compared to the full resolution versions...

Either way, they are all taken with stock app except fort he obviously "extra shiny" ones, taken with HDR Camera+...which I highly recommend everybody purchase.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nerys71:
Oh my that first CAT picture is truly remarkable. Not only a stunning picture but a gorgeous cat too! got a high res copy of that you can post?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Great shots daneurysm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JBTY:
Cruze Ships docked at Old San Juan Puerto Rico

Stock Camera app using the night mode ;)

Edit: Dosent even come close to the high res version

:/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graphic1982:
nice shot of those cruise ships. I was down in San Juan in November and the drive thru Old San Juan was just murder. The cruise ships were there at that time too.

Anyways here are couple of pics i took with the HDR Camera app:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JBTY:
Yea its much better to walk more enjoyable! BTW i live in PR so if you need any tips for vacation spots away from San Juan let me know!

Also heres another pic form the beach Xmas in PR!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
this is when I was still experimenting with all of the settings in HDR Camera+, so, I didn't know to turn off the noise smoothing.

---------- Post added at 09:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------

here's another for ya
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Nice pics man
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
fantastic use of contrast and focus....I'm no photographer so I don't know the technical terms....

I just take a metric ****-ton of pictures and upload the gems, just like the pros but my results are even more accidental, lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Beautiful cat. What did turning off the noise filter do for the pics?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Thanks. You quoted me faster than I could edit my post lol. Pics were too small posting from Tapatalk lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Thanks... he's an amazing cat, personality wise.

The noise filter, if you look closely on the huge picture, seems to interpolate the noise out...I think it might even use the tone-mapping data to do so intelligently.

White noise functions, intentionally or not, as a way to distract the viewer (or listener for audio) from quantization noise which would be present as banding in graphics...or to represent a dynamic range beyond the abilities of the final output device. That is known as "dithering" to achieve a perceived higher bit-dept...it is used in audio and graphics/video to great effect.

since this noise is essentially error-noise it is random in distribution when you look at pics up close they can look grainy. Just think of how a low-light digital image looks on even the best cameras...there is grain.

Now, whether you like the look of that noise or not--it is there. Some people don't like it, so there is a filter to interpolate that noise into a cohesive color. Think of how upsampled graphics on NES emulators look with one of the smoothing interpolation filters turned on. Pixels aren't jaggy, they are estimated and rounded and scaled up.....

Personally I prefer the least amount of distortion to the image possible so I just disable the smoothing. If I wasn't currently busy in 3 other windows I'd upload an example....some people like this smoothing effect....I don't. If you have crazy edge enhancement on for HDR Camera+ I could see wanting to smooth, but, at that point your image is a wild exaggeration of reality. Maybe that's what you want, lol...that's not what I'm going for.

/rant

EDIT: TL;DR - The pictures would be noticeably sharper without the noise filter, lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Alright I searched through as many pages of this thread as I could but I give up ---

My question is: Is it worth buying the HDR + version for $4?

VERY impressed with the HDR camera had no idea how crappy our Native Camera was in comparison. So whats the difference in the free versus paid versions?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
you can do full resolution with the paid version...that means a lot to me and is easily worth $4....there are a couple other fancier options I think (saving all 3 exposures I think is one of them)....but the main thing to me (besides the full resolution) was the god-damned-nagging-ads....VIDEO ADS? REALLY? AFTER EVERY OTHER PICTURE?

I must say to that developer, bravo, you made my cheap-ass run screaming to pay for that app even without any other bonus besides stopping. the. ads. please. god.

It's not that the stock app sucks, it's pretty damned capable...it's that this does (simulated) HDR which is far more time and resource expensive than just taking a picture. Most people on the planet would be furious if the stock camera took that long to take a picture and lacked basic functions like tap-to-focus and face recognition and had these arcane settings that they can't understand....even if the pictures are drop dead gorgeous.

...though I have noticed that in 90% of all circumstance humans--faces especially--are pretty nasty looking in HDR, lol. YMMV of course.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
I hear what your saying, I'm definitely going to keep both App Shortcuts next to each other handy depnding what what kind of photo I need to take. But I'm a little confused, lol I haven't seen a single ad (Free version) and I've taken about 15 pics so far. I have only seen the "Upgrade to blah version" one time :O am I just lucky or what?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Like I said, they are insanely clever. I didn't see any either...then they crept in there slowly and then the video ads started....and then they became more frequent.

Now, I didn't have an ad blocking ROM then, so, YMMV...but, even without that the resolution it spits out is good for facebook and little else....I mean, I have taken some absolutely breath taking pictures...some of which are amazing for almost no reason, photographs of complete nonsense that simply look spectacular. There is no reason I wouldn't want that at 8mp.

...oh, and keeping them side-by-side? Exactly what I do.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
For instance:

This is from my demo period before I bought the paid app. I would pay money to have this picture at 8mp. That will never be possible, sadly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
I only use the stock camera app for Marco and Panorama pics. Some of the pics I just posted were with the stock app and I edited them with some apps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
HDR camera + gonna experiment turning off noise reduction next time...I like a crisp image myself.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
that is beautiful. wow.

yeah, you'll get a sharper image, and noise....and since given parts of an image may contain various bits of image data of up to 3 images that noise can get pretty, umm, noisy....I guess, in theory. I've never noticed anything objectionably bad...except in mega-low-light sans flash....but...who's shocked by that?.

I'll still take that over smoothing. Though I would imagine that keeping it perfectly still during those 3 exposures would probably be extra important I, honestly, haven't noticed except on extreme heavy motion (and nothing I could do about it) shots....in fact I find it downright amazing how much variance that app can tolerate...though the more still the better, always....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Thats beautiful where is that taken?

Edit --- Also, and I could be completely wrong, but I feel that I read somewhere that these custom ROMs downgrade the stock camera app quality. As this sounds stupid to me, I don't remember where I heard it, never really cared to test it, but has anyone else heard that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
No...in fact I think some of them come with the tweaked camera app that has maxed out (as far as I/O can handle) audio and video bitrate/compression settings....8mp is 8mp....and I doubt any of the built-in post processing has been affected unless a different app is supplied. I could be wrong, but, it just doesn't add up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Remember to always set your ISO at 100 and go up when you need it. For the apps that allow it of course.

Awesome pic Duce
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
daneurysm, thanks for the tips man. Good info. Also, on "color vividnes" I turn it to pure, because IMO on standard it over saturates the colors making the pic look kinda of cartoonish, if you know what I mean. ;)

AVAHOLIC, I live in SLC Utah, this pic was taken driving up a canyon called "Weber", exited in one of those little awesome farming mountain towns called Peterson. I think the West is absolutely gorgeous, open plains, mountains, lakes and rivers. Love it. :)

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Alright! You convinced me. First app i've ever purchased lol --- just to be clear I will be doing a titanium backup, but because I purchased this it should stay in my market even after flashing a new rom and stuff right? Especially since I bought it through the Amazon Marketplace? Correct?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
I don't believe it will show up in the android market if you buy through amazon. Too bad you didn't see my thread a couple weeks ago cause HDR camera+ was on sale for ¢99...

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Indeed I do. Typically I bounce back-n-forth between standard and pure...though for circumstances where I "see" something that isn't actually there--but should be--I put it to saturated.....most of the time it completely ruins the picture, but, on a rare handful of times the results were so beautiful and accurate (yes, accurate) that it's worth the risk of forgetting to turn it off again.

HDR isn't for everything...aside from the inconvenience of the 3 exposures and processing time (and additional saturation and edge enhance worries which super make or super break a shot) there is also the consideration: Does this even have a high dynamic range?

You could be going to all that effort for something that won't gain anything and could even lose something from having (or trying to have) such a wide dynamic range. The more contrast and/or subtle ("nuanced") levels (read: light 'level') you have to deal with the more likely HDR will benefit you...but also be mindful of what is on your screen (and either washed out or blacked out) and how the 3 levels of exposure will change and mix....

I really love that app....I knew about HDR before that and my familiarity with dynamic range (from an audio production background) helped me really understand what that meant.....but that app really has brought me a whole new appreciation for photography....especially the composition aspect. Like whoa.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
:cool: I understand and totally agree.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
The three hdr apps I like, bought, and think they do a good job are:

Hdr camera +, photo enhance pro, and vignette. Hdr camera + is good but I don't completely understand what the settings do. When the previous poster explained what that filter did, most of it went over my head.

One last thing, tldr, I've seen that in Reddit but I haven't figured out what it stands for. Could you enlighten me?

P.s.

Buying hdr camera + is worth it. Vignette is another one that I feel does a damned good job at hdr and lots of other effects. If I had to pick just one of those apps for financial reasons, I'd pick vignette because it can do a lot. I also bought befunky pro but haven't messed around much with it. I like that hdr camera + does high/normal/low bracketing shots then mixes them together. Both do good enhancing a low light shot and throwing some hdr into it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Yeah, after my long drawn out overly technical explanation of the noise filter I put "TL;DR".....that's internet vernacular for "too long, didn't read..." ....which is why a more succinct (or comical) summary typical proceeds a proclamation of "TL;DR".
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
No i realise that i meant the amazon market --- eh whatever its backed up and i have my purchase history receipt through there

Ahhh bummer... whatever not a big deal only an extra $3 lol --- i'm more dissappointed that I just learned about it, where were you guys 12 hours ago???? haha now its night time, i need some sun damnit! :P

You don't gotta tell me man! I'm from Denver, but I'm currently living on the Western Slope... I'm surrounded by mountains haha I have deers in the front yard every morning
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nerys71:
Damn that is one awesome looking cat and SUCH GOOD pictures!

gonna have to try and HDR My sisters cat but the bugger does not like to stay still :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
HAHAHA I thought/tried to do the same thing immediately after downloading and ran into the same problem
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Note: that cat was sleeping soundly. the only reason he was captured "still" was because he was sleeping and the only reason you see his eyes open was because it takes 3 exposures.....seriously, those shots were all lucky. I can't get any goddamned decent pics of my cats...he is impossible to photograph and the other 2 are even worse. They are worse than children in that regard....they are doing something adorable so I think "hot ****, picture time" and even if I get that phone (or my camera) out within split second and even if they stay still until I'm ready to shoot there is something magical that happens in the 1/4th of a second between when I pull the trigger and when the image is captured that everything goes terribly wrong, lol.....

...my girlfriend is a dog person, she thinks I'm fncking nuts.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nerys71:
Here here for luck. I am not kidding when I say I am printing that and its going on my wall.

not too many pictures get on my wall that I did not take but that picture is stunning and from a damned cell phone no less!

just wow.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Pro HDR is also a good app I use sometimes. It gets some pictures better than HDR Camera+
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
This is pretty much all cell cameras but I hate that the view is wide angle. If you want to do close up shots, you have to get really close. I wish the lens was more like a field of view from a 50mm slr lens. That's close to what we see with our eyes, or someone said that to me a long time ago. Yes you can zoom but digital zoom is crap.

I didn't care for pro hdr because of the halos around everything. Pro hdr on an iPhone 4s, now that's a good app IMO.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nerys71:
Hmmm not me. my massive complaint most times is its not wide enough. anything less than a 80-90' view and I am not happy.

if I want a longer view I whip out the DSLR with the 75-300 lens on it or my 800-1600mm reflector :-) if I want to get really funky :-)

but for my cell phone I want WIDE WIDE WIDE in fact I am thinking of ordering the .5x wideangle lens to put on this. I LOVE wide angle. I love getting group shots in etc..

there are times when a little zoom would be really nice but you can crop this down to a 2-3mp images and have your 50mm image and still a decent resolution.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Son tired after day at the Beach

Victory!! \o/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nerys71:
what halo's ? I use Pro HDR and I like it because it gives you HDR range without the surreal colors - I never noticed any halo's

though sometimes I WANT the surreal colors. which app do you guys suggest for that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Awww that's great! I like the color one.

I took this pic as one of the first pic after i bought this phone, i thought it was INCREDIBLE! lol now that i have this app Im not impressed at all :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
What app are you not impressed with?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Cutie. Enjoy the apps. They are awesome.

Here are 2 more

Edit: Damn Tapatalk uploading pics too small lol. Ill upload again in the morning.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Notice between the buildings and the sky? This pic is one of the ones that looks"bad" to me. Others aren't so obvious.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
Those are freaking awesome ! What are you using for filters? Pics like this from a phone....just crazy.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
No no no I was saying the pic that I posted was from the Stock Camera app that comes on our phones --- This is the day I bought the phone --- I was coming from an LG Optimus S, So needless to say this camera blew me away!

But now that I've been seeing pics from the app they convinced me to download tonight, I'm even more impressed ----

either way this is still a hell of a camera.... after seeing some of these pictures its acutally got me thinking I may sell my Sony camera. I don't use it much anymore and it used to be a very nice camera, I remember spending $549 on it. But I rarely used it with the LG and now that I have this I highly doubt i'll be using it at all again haha ------ side note: once I started thinking about selling my camera I also got to thinking about selling my iPod ---- this device is just all I really need haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Used Vignette to take them. Used Little Photo and Snaptastic to edit it some more.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
I took this tonight with the stock camera with the Macro setting. Focused on the rock on the left. Then i edited the color after.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Have you guys looked into StreamZoo?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Just looked it up after you mentioned it, have never heard of it before, but I'm still a little confused as to what it does?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Have you heard of Instagram? Its like a social Twitter for photography. You can follow people to view their uploads. People can follow you and so on. If you get enough likes on a pic your pic makes it to the popular wall. I have only made it once lol. If you install it you can add me @Rick_Chavez
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Really, I think the stock camera app is good for most tasks. Using the scenes, in settings, is a lifesaver. I don't like to use flash on a cell camera or a real camera. It washes out too much. I like to do low light, night, and lightning shots.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bondosho:
On HDR Camera, set the Color vividness to pure, local and micro contrast to low, and exposure to normal. You'll just get an incredible picture, and not one with the halo/aura surrounding the object.

Anyway, I saw this a few weeks ago:

HDR Camera+

Stock camera w/flash

HDR Camera with the settings set to how I said above:

Stock camera:

HDR Camera on default:

HDR Camera on settings above:

Ok, that's good for now. More later.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
...lazy Saturday morning...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
I'm hooked now.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
\o/ awesome!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Alright I'll try TWO things from this thread haha, rick i got you, Duce whats ya username???

<---- Paul_Blitz
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Good stuff!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
I've got two more suggestions for your camera tool bag, fast burst camera (color and fast) and ultra burst camera (b&w and very fast). They both are lower resolution. Fast burst, at default settings, can shoot 102 pics in 12 seconds (until buffer is full) and ultra burst can do 101 in 7 seconds.

I guess some uses could be if you're driving, spot something you want to look at more closely later, and fire off a bunch of shots as you're passing by the "thing" ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Stock camera night scene 5 seconds timer so I can hold the camera steady

.

Vignette night scene fake hdr 5 second timer

.

.

Hdr camera + default settings. Normal to all minor noise reduction

That's a great example of why I think vignette is more versatile.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
Great pics! And I just bought vignete myself lol, kinda of a pain to set settings but it does take great shots. Both apps serve different purposes IMO.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
At a family members house ---- boy does this thread suck on DSL lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
HDR Camera+ is not meant for Dark lit places. Like mentioned above. App has its purpose. Its not meant to be your go to camera for every pic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] naripsta:
Went to an art museum today, took this shot at highest resolution @ superfine.

No edits, just resized down to 800x600
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
My new car
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Nice. I was just at a Chevy dealer looking at the Camero's >.<
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Hahaha, I got a 2011 Chevy Cruze with 14k miles and it and it's in near perfect condition. I absolutely love it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Nice. Ill maybe be uploading some new car pics soon too lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] naripsta:
Pray your steering wheel doesn't fall off. :P

I'm sure they fixed that though lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
That's what Im saying. Im so jealous we just got my girl a brand new 2012 ford focus. Focuses have come alone way. That thing is sweet
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigRick10:
Why is this thread always alive late at night lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Insomnia? I never can seem to get to sleep at a decent hour. Always wondering about the pretty pics we are capable of lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bondosho:
Does it have brake pads? Lol. Nice car, and Congrats
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bondosho:
That is a car I will never buy. I feel like a sardine in it, and the ergonomics are all wrong. If you are 6' or are long in the torso, I would avoid it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I just looked up all the recalls on it and I'm going to take it in Monday or Tuesday, depending if they are open tomorrow, and have them check over it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Sorry, work was slow and I was bored.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Okay...that spider...tell us more. What is it, where is it found and what do I have to do to never ever ever see one in person ever ever ever in my life.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
Agreed....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] T.C.P:
+1000 what is that
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
A pano picture. Coulon Park, Renton WA
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stang04:
awesome shot, love the clouds shape..