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[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
While right, technically, having the rollout announced on the 15th would make 1% of the people receive the update in summer, 79% in fall and 20% in spring 2012, according to the NoDo schedule (actually maybe someone would have to wait summer 2012). When they said they learned their lesson with the NoDo update, I thought they meant that this time they would start a bit in advance. RTM was signed off way too early, in my opinion, it has a few rough edges and missing features, as well as tiny glitches that NoDo didn't have.

Anyway, it would hurt for them to press on and release it a tiny weeny bit in advance, like a week or so, especially with iphone and android releases close at hand. So far when they released something, I've been either disappointed (by a deluge of features cut) or moderately satisfied. They never surprised me positively, yet. And they really need to surprise people positively.

I agree with the concept of they barely said 'fall' and I'm not arguing with that. But this is the right situation for people who are disappointed to show it. It's also the right moment to pause a second and evaluate what people expected (not about the date) and what was delivered.

They said they scrapped WinMo and rebuilt a team around WP7 appositely to understand the 'different' mobile world. It seems to me they are treating it pretty much like the business/desktop world. Long update cycles, no flair, no real communication, weak relations with OEMs and carriers.

It might be true that Windows Phone is only instrumental to them to reach the tablet world. But boy I didn't expect that to turn out so.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MikeM132:
I would feel much better about all this if I was sure Microsoft actually HAS a date. I am beginning to wonder whether carriers are still fooling around with things and Microsoft does not even know on what date everyone will have something to push out via Zune.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
What pisses me off is that it seems the OEMs have done all their tweaking and testing so isn't the update pushed to unlocked/unbranded phones? They don't need to wait for the carriers for these!
[Windows Phone 7 General] joaodaega:
So you're saying that all administrators of the forums about Windows Phone has less than 4 years. Correct?

Microsoft think It can battle against Android an IOS with a OS with 5 languages for the past 18 months??????

NoDo never should have existed ... should have gone directly to MANGO, many months ago....

I love WP7, but we are ages behind IOS and Adroid... period.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
I think most sites indicated that the sept 15 launch date was a rumor and nothing more. They said given the information on Asian roms, the rumor gains a lot more credibility, but that was it. It was always a rumor

similarly to what nokia said about a windows phone devices coming out and the traction received when nokia said they were ahead of schedule. They still have a tentative 2012 release with maybe one device in 2011...

meh well que sera sera

now to call some people at dell =)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
What all of you people expect from the official release of Mango? Santa Claus with gifts inside or virtual gf to do you a bj?.. May be a "freedom" ROM with unlimited ability to sideload warez apps?!

MS already released Mango RTM; do not expect bugfixes or real improvements in upcoming manufacturers releases. So just try to relax and patiently wait for "Tango" (or whatever) beta :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
I have time , I wait for Apollo :D

or Armageddon after Apollo :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Compared to nodo that's basically what mangos is. That is our problem. Launch wp7 and nodo is like going celibate for a year compared to competing platforms.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
As I agree Mango just kicks ass... I am glad NoDO came. Besides Copy and paste, it gave support for CDMA phones and that is kind of big in my eyes as I have and many others do, a CDMA carrier.

I think I would of had an another device if I was waiting till now to get a WP7 device.

If the iPhone did that, sorry, I love Windows Phone 7 and mango but, I would own a iPhone..... :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
But the fact that MS doesn't pop up and dispell the rumor is tantamount to a confirmation of release. All MS had to do with all these "wild" rumors is post a tiny tweet saying otherwise. That's all. Nothing difficult or painful. They chose to be silent and allow the rumors and speculation to gain a life of their own. This is technically *all* of MS's fault.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slimshady322:
I posted this earlier but again:

Of course MS can dismiss every rumor that gets major attention. They did so with the Xbox + Bluray thing because they didn't want customer's dissappointed.

There were several sources and several rumors about Xbox + bluray almost every day. This is why they had to say it won't happen.

Now if they were to always dismiss these rumors then sooner or later something true will leak and MS will not dismiss it. People will then see this lack of comment from MS as a confirmation.

This then again creates a problem when MS has to change something and the leaked information becomes outdated and wrong.

MS does not comment on Rumors unless they are getting major attention AND customers might be dissapointed.

The 9/15 rumor had from what I know 1 source and in addition the Mango launch in Taiwan + carrieres/OEMs saying that they are done with testing.

Every blog stated that it was a rumor and it was only a couple of Windows Phone blogs, nothing too important.

Can't we now all expect December 21st as the release date and calm down? If it happens earlier just be happy and stop complaining.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
Seriously? I think that's a bit of a stretch to say it's tantamount to confirmation of a release just because they don't dispell the rumor. Since when does that responsibility necessarily lie on their shoulders? If the rumor turns into speculation is that really their fault? Should corporations that are traded on the stock market turn to quell every small little rumor that fuels speculation?

I don't think this Mango update date based on unreliable hearsay necessarily warrants that measure of responsibility akin to a corporation quelling a large scale rumor that could affect trading prices massively. I mean you do have your own mind don't you?
[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
But the problem is they said there won't be an announcement, we will know it the day it comes out.

That feels preposterous to me. Like saying: you will have to endure a no-idea-when wait for 2-years old functionality, until the very last day. We don't have to give you exact dates. You have to put up with our unreliable update progress.

"it's ready when it's ready" only works up to a certain point and doesn't work well when you need to catch up so badly....

Again compare it to what happens around Apple
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
Is that really that big of a burden? If they said Fall 2011 then we have a general time frame. If they go past it and it's still not out then for sure you have more reason to be mad. But to get mad now when it isn't even in that time frame and to rely on some unreliable hearsay....

As for Apple, i just Googled "ios5 release date" and "iphone 5 release date" and all the top articles in the news section don't state any definitive date. Each article has an idea which they're also basing on hearsay as to when its coming out, but I see no article saying something akin to, "Apple has stated that the release date for iOS 5 and/or iPhone 5 will be <insert date>".

As such I have no idea wtf you're going on about.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
wtf I'm going about (thank you for the french) is that they behave like they already gained all the trust in the world with their previous update and like they're putting out The Next Big Thing.

No release date and speculations only work in favour of the product if people are waiting for new, cutting edge features. besides that, if they can't narrow the release period, not until they deliver it, it might well be that they're still messed up with carriers and hw testing. I don't see no reason to believe otherwise since there are still people without c&p. That's why I feel they should demonstrate they can deliver in a timely and predetermined fashion, that they should show they're good and in control.

People drool over IOS 5 because it's perceived as the 'future', as being ahead of everyone else. So the expectation behind it is different. It has a positive bend.

People are impatient about mango because it's what others put out years ago, it's perceived as being late and catching up, and every day without it feels like a day in smartphone prehistory.

By the way, check this:

http://m.wpcentral.com/orange-france-memo-confirms-september-15th-was-mango-day
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
1) Meh. It is what it is. Who knows why things happened the way they did. What you perceive may not necessarily be the case. But if you want to get all ruffled about it, by all means.

2) If that is true across all carriers then by all means get mad.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Payvay:
hi folks!

I was searching on the forum if there'd be a MAME emulator that would allow 4 sixaxis controllers mapping and I found nothing... As we can plug our device on the TV, it would be fantastic...

Is there such an emulator somewhere on the net?

Thanks!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] monte666:
Put this in q&a you'll probably get a answer
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zero_Shadow:
Hello,

I hope this is the right place to ask this question but needed some help to be pointed in the right direction.

I just got my android coming from Windows Mobile and I am looking for an app that will lock the device when I click this icon I know there are several lock screen apps but they dont seem to lock the phone as well when they turn off the screen unless I am missing something. Would someone be able to point me in the right direction if so I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Reference in case you need to know what Im talking about: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=471067
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
I have been working on a port of MIUI for the Atrix and think I might have a stable ROM. The problem is, i'm not familiar with editing the boot img or kernel. So i'm trying to see if a dev would be willing to help me out with that so I can get the ROM rolling. If so, either PM me or reply. Thanks in advance!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Javi97100:
That's not alot of information, wrong forum, are you a dev?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
I have modified the system files and all that jazz using the files we have now with cm7 and the MIUI that is out for the Optimus 2x. My stopping point is a proper boot.img that is compatible with Atrix for MIUI. I have never messed with a boot image before so pretty much need someone to do that part
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ronaldo_9:
doesnt miui use cm boot.img?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pirateghost:
yeah, just use the CM7 boot.img
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
I have tried that so I must be having problems with something else. Problem is that the Atrix isn't getting past the motorola unlocked startup screen. Any thoughts on some of the main things that cause so I can know the general area to start looking?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] txtsd:
#moto-atrix on irc.freenode.net

See if you can get help there.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] d3athsd00r:
Someone from the MIUI team stated they are working on an official port. You may want to talk to them.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] alistair3149:
They are not working actually...They are just waiting for official CM support and do the work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
Exactly why I am trying to complete this myself. Anybody knowledgeable with porting a ROM and want to tag team this with me?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ahmarchi:
you should try to get intouch with the guys from CM7 team, and maybe make your work open source for ppl to see thats going on. the would help alot. anwyas good luck buddy and thanks alot for your efforts
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
Thanks guys! Im trying what I can to get it going and will keep you guys posted. Gonna take the advice and bug the CM7 team now lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pirateghost:
fancy widget and beautiful widget work perfectly well for this
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
can you get logcats?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] WillisD:
I can
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
are you trying to port miui?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
Yes sir I sure can. Wanna PM me your email so I can get them to ya

---------- Post added at 07:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:24 PM ----------

Appreciate your willingness to donate but I dont want any donations. Just merely trying to get a port going for us on my spare time. Thanks again though :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
Its not booting right now. As soon as I get it at least booting I will upload an alpha version
[Atrix 4G Android Development] WillisD:
I can do logcats and such
[Atrix 4G Android Development] d3athsd00r:
So....what about this tweet from the miui team?

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/113441832356163585

Speedily sent from CM7 Beta
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
There be no blur what so ever
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Its like cm7 based off of AOSP

Motorola Atrix doing the job for me
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Do you see any progress on getting this to boot in the future? Is there any progress being made on this at the moment?

I just wish the best luck for you on getting this running...it'd be soo nice.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
We got pass the M screen but then it goes to a light black screen and its stuck there.

Motorola Atrix doing the job for me
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Yann_H:
As far as I know Miui is mainly in chinese and English language.

In the end if it's possible to make it French, I can help...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pgsmith68:
Kind of early in development to be asking for something "in the end", we have to see if they can first get it to boot then see what needs to be fixed. I have a feeling the end will be a long way off and no one will remember to make a French port.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Yann_H:
I Will be there to remind ;-)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
We should have a working port by Xmas day :)

Hopefully unless we get lucky before hand lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Hopefully ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] bzmotoninja83:
<<< stoopid noob here but, could we look into the MIUI of other Moto devices? Like the Droid X? I have a friend that has it on his and I recently got it on a Samsung infuse. But, there might be a chance on looking into other Moto miui devices?

YAWN, tired. Night
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
If it has a tegra2 chip then I see why not.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pirateghost:
it doesnt.

atrix, droid bionic, xoom

dont know of any other moto devices that have tegra2
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jonestown:
I think the closest thing you will find, structurally, to this phone is the G2x.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
We have tried all moto bases for miui. But they all the same end results
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Best one to use from my opinion is LG optimus 2X
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Won't the MIUI team start working on the Atrix when CM7 is officially supported for the Atrix?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
One of them is already working on it but he's having no luck
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Cm7 nightly got released. I'm thinking we might see a miui soon ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
Sweet I've never had a miui device, can't wait to try it out
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pmcnano:
Do you really think the nighties will speed up the process of deving the MIUI port?. I dont see how, though I am really asking. How?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Libs got updated. Itll help I'm sure.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pmcnano:
oh :) Cool. Lets see how this works for us! ;) Keep us posted!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Deggy:
Some guy I follow in twitter tweeted its not gonna happen due to native drivers on tegra devices or something like that. I'll link it later.

http://twitter.com/#!/magiman7/status/131816738147930112

http://twitter.com/#!/magiman7/status/131814553641160704
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Magiman. Yeah its possible to port but its gonna take hard work and alot of time

Donation accepted towards an Atrix 2 :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
If/when you get an Atrix 2 please don't give up on the OG Atrix port :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
I'm gonna be switching off using one for my daily drive and the other for hard developing. And keep switching.

Donation accepted towards an Atrix 2 :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XAviierG:
Great thing comes to those who waits ;)

RT @Jface21: Well folks looks like miui on the atrix will be upon us. Eta: ;)

Donation accepted towards an Atrix 2 :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] BravoMotorola:
That's some pretty nice news. I was in the mindset for a while that MIUI on the Atrix would never happen.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] DroidRunner:
Keep Reddit in reddit. If you want miui, build it.

Sorry, I don't like it when people expect other people to get things done and not contribute.

If there is going to be an update, guess where it will be posted?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dascope:
Seems like there is not one main forum for discussions on MIUI for the Atrix... unless anyone knows about it? More than willing to much with MIUI and flash my phone over and over... but where can I find more information on what has been done so far?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] xploited:
All the dev progress happened within this thread only, as far as I read.

Last news from the devs were that they are trying to make it boot.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kennethpenn:
Seems like there's no MIUI development going on in here. Thread closed until further notice. OP can PM me when he has something new to share and wants it opened.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] heyhey24:
what does it say??

my computer is being crew-ell :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/113441832356163585
[Atrix 4G Android Development] heyhey24:
Many thanks ! :)

Now i play the waiting game, simply because i would eat swords for this rom lol xD
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
yeah same, really hoping for this weekend but i don't wanna get my hopes up. I'm curious as to whose will be released first
[Atrix 4G Android Development] heyhey24:
Yea its really a race to the finish i guess :P

if it got released today i would be ecstatic

especially since its my birthday X)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
i got it pass the M logo, into a boot loop now, no animation tho
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
What all have you done to port it? Do you know how to get the logcats?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
you need a kernel that supports adb for logcats

problem i got is audioflinger not working.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
I might be able to do something with that. Can you zip it up for me possibly
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
you been getting my pm's?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milestone97:
You can use the MoviestarHD ROM (that based on Miui) it's fot the LG2x (a tegra 2 Device) and it's more stable the the other MIUI ROM's, you can find a download link at miui-germany.de
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
No my phone hasn't been notifying me. Gonna check them now
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
We are working on it. I wasn't home this weekend to collab with the other dev that is working on this as well so as soon as get a chance to test what he has gotten done I'll post a status.

As soon as we have a port with at least wifi/3g support we will probably give you guys an alpha to start testing.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] INSM Sin:
is it going to be a public alpha test?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Swiftks:
God, I hope not... sorry, but can you imagine how many pages of "why doesn't this work" or "how do I do this" there will be on a alpha... kinda like the last month or so with CM7. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] KeRmiT80:
who cares of the useless post the alpha could generate?

i used the cm7 since prebeta1 :D

miui
[Atrix 4G Android Development] INSM Sin:
good point... your right, it was terrible with CM7 lol.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] JCAndroid87:
I been trying to port MIUI to the Motorola Photon 4g but, been busy with my day job and school. I been working on it since a lot of devs are really busy porting to other devices so why not give a hand and try porting it yourself? :) that's what I been trying to do these past few weeks. Pm maybe I can give you some help since the Atrix and the Photon4G are pretty similar. If we would get both to work it would be awesome. :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] munchy_cool:
this might help ..

http://android.modaco.com/topic/341986-how-to-port-miui/

not sure if you already read it ..just trying to help :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Jotokun:
I'm no dev, but that looked pretty simplistic so I figured I'd give it a shot using the Moto Defy version as a base. Unfortunetly its stuck on the Motorola logo.

I kind of figured that would be the case, if it were that simple we'd have a working MIUI already.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
i have pm'ed you, please reply
[Atrix 4G Android Development] playin4sheezy:
Sorry guys. Haven't had any free time the past few days due to being swamped at work. Should have a bit of free time tomorrow to digg back into it. I'll keep you guys posted
[Atrix 4G Android Development] SErooted:
Ok i am new to the Atrix. But have been messing with alot of devices. Not sure what previous devices many you have had recently, my last one was an xperia x10. Im going to track down an idea that comes from the Dev's there and post a link..... http://xdaforums.com/editpost.php?do=updatepost&postid=17761232

Now I understand that its though comes both from an miui and an x10 rom. But if i recall, it should be a thought for maybe what to look for if its a problem within one of those files. As i didnt read all the posts within the thread, im not sure where success and failure is happening. but hope that maybe this info mights help. Call me Noob if it was a Stupid thought.

As well. i might take a look at if basing it off of cm7 if that might even help.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] milesjohnson:
guys i think its safe to say....a miui port is starting! never thought id see the day but thanks to our amazing devs and @ausdroid for donating an atrix to @magiman7. I just want to thank everyone for their amazing work including @ibproud......im at a loss for words how happy i am.... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D http://twitter.com/#!/magiman7/status/116977703294468096
[Atrix 4G Android Development] xploited:
Can we have at least one development thread without drama? :confused: You guys look like playground kids.

To the OP, thank you for your work, good luck with whatever you can achieve.

To everyone else, if you have nothing to contribute regarding development, don't post.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] _Alex_:
This thread has been cleaned up of spam. Keep it on the level or get an infraction. This is a development discussion in a development thread.

Remember, there are NO ETAs with CM7, so don't expect one with Miui development.

If you can't contribute to the development effort, you have no say in this thread.