yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
If you intend to remove "Friendstream" just uninstall it with Titanium Backup do not bother converting it. I do this all the time, then I reboot my phone after I uninstall system apps just to refresh my system.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
I freeze all of them in titanium backup, or at least I did before my stability issues. Now that i'm more or less working fine, I should go do that again.

I would not complain if you released a Nils' Business Antisocial GingerSense :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcdanielvzw:
I sure wouldn't mind if you did. I now have a text file I can run from the adb shell to remove some of the stock apps and widgets, most of it is social media that I'll never use.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris7os:
which tweaks?

Which tweaks exactly did you use from etc/init.d?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ordieth:
Help...

I don't understand why I am getting the "out of internal space" message...

I have 124mb free app space, 4gb free internal space....

I tried looking for a solution, but i am just stumped...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] withbloodskies:
Go into the market and download 1tap cleaner.

That should solve tor issue for awhile, it happens when abunch of cache and data fill up in your apps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Mighty quiet around here... the kind of quiet you hear just before a new version.

Nils...is there a 1.6 in our future?

Just curious, not trying to rush things.

...Sorry... I was on the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am running 1.6 HaHa

Not enough in it to make it worth posting yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
I kinda figured as much. Looking forward to it.

Any thoughts on the V6 Supercharger? I took a look at it, but wasn't sure about taking the plunge just yet. Interesting if set up properly, but better than the ramscript?

...Sorry... I was on the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ordieth:
Here is what I don't understand...

Even the 1 tap cleaner says I have 122mb free space and only 900kb cache to clear...

Is the free space just reporting wrong?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Move some of your apps to your SD card. Better yet, download Link2sd from the market. Partition your card, and move them so you can free up some space. Don't know how many apps you have, but it's gotta help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Flashed Tiny's 10/8 kernel and power button stopped working, sdcard and emmc wouldn't mount at boot. This is the same thing that happened when I was trying to use the 9/29 kernel, however when Nils included it in the ROM it worked fine, it's only when I flash it seperately that it fails. Trying to re-flash just the ROM to replace the kernel but I suspect I'll be restoring my latest nandroid backup.

So, SU update caused all my FC's but that wasn't the core issue, it was Tiny's kernel.

Dunno why some people can install the kernel without problems, but I can't.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
because you installed the ginger aosp kernel instead of the sense kernel? lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Try reflashing the kernel. If that doesn't work, try restoring the backup and flash the kernel before rebooting. Every time I've installed this rom, I've always flashed the rom first (obviously), then any other add-ons, then the kernel before any reboots. Always worked.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ordieth:
ok... uninstalled like half my apps... (big ones too...) upto 200MB free in my app storage... and still the system thinks I am full... :confused:

guess i gotta try reinstalling the ROM... i really wonder why this is happening...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
If Nils just packed the kernel into his boot.img and included the kernel's wifi module that is EXACTLY what I do, not a bit of difference and the changes I made would not have affected emmc or sdcard mount. Try formatting boot before installing the kernel. Also, can you reproduce on a fresh flash? ie, flash after booting the rom for the first time with wipes before installing apps? Does this happen on the stock rom?

EDIT: Based on what I hear you should try a clean install of the ROM and kernel prior to the SU update as that is introducing another factor.

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Possibly, the problem is both latest aosp and sense kernels have a 10/8 kernel, but if he had this issue when manually flashing 9/29 (which there was no aosp) then he used the sense one. Regardless, there should be no difference between flashing the rom with the kernel and flashing the kernel separately. It's the same file.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
So, I have one more quick question.. I have noticed that from time to time, the 3g/1x icon will disappear (leaving just the signal bars), and data will not work without a reboot. While I doubt it is Rom specific, I figured I would check first, and see if anyone is having this issue(and yes, this time I checked the issues post. ;-))..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
nandroid restore still had the same problem, and I'm certain it was working fine when I backed it up. Spent the last couple hours troubleshooting with adb both in recovery and booted up. Apparently there are bad blocks on /datadata and /system. Thanks for all the help, but I think that spells the end.

See you guys on the Vigor.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
last ditch effort format data and system in mounts? I know that won't fix bad sectors/ blocks but hey... why not
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Tried that a couple times and a couple different ways.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
were you changing your volt settings at some point? just hard for me to accept flashing a kernel could permanently damage a phone
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HOOKEDONDROID:
Just to make sure, are you wiping cache and dalvik before flashing the kernel? Seems like a simple step, but is necessary. Not many people talk about how to flash kernels anymore. Just a thought :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zoomy942:
Do share big fella!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
the bad part is, these particular kernels do that on their own right at flash

EDIT: Not saying it's bad that they do!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HOOKEDONDROID:
For me, I guess I need to have the feeling that its done. Product of cwm failures from my Eris and issues with the Incredible. I like knowing it is done. I usually probably go overkill and wipe each twice in alternating order. Cache, dalvik, cache, dalvik. Peace of mind :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] answerman:
Sadly, this ROM isn't working for me. Business Gingersense 3.0 worked quite well for me, not perfect but close enough for me to overlook the bit of lagginess (which I do understand is to be expected with the Sense 3.0 ROMs, don't get me wrong). However, I've seen my Incredible's performance sag below my wife's old Eris while running Business Gingersense 3.5. It's just not going to work for me.

My Incredible is primarily a business device for me, not an entertainment device, and it needs to be 100% reliable, so unfortunately I have to move on. Just reflashed to Jermaine's Official Stock 4.06.605.3 and though it's nowhere near as much fun as this one, it's way more responsive for me which unfortunately is what I need.

Nils, you do great work, and kudos to you. Is it silly of me to feel I owe you an explanation? I'm not complaining, and I hope you keep up the great work. Looking forward to what you'll be accomplishing with the Vigor once December 28th rolls around for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
You might like my "Stock Plus" rom better than the official stock:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17522519

***I'm mobile
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Trapshooter37:
NILS....I'm sad to report that this ROM isn't working for me either. I have done everything as per your instructions and it seems that after a few hours things go all crazy. I have done numerous attempts and it seems that one little glitch screws the whole thing up or as time goes on my phone just can't handle your awesome ROM. I was looking forward to trying version 1.6 but I need somehting more stable right now. Keep up the good work as the post have been laided out here in this thread you do awesome work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Understood.

Are you sure it is not Google restoring apps and settings? That is typically what causes it to go crazy after a short period of time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EricS96521:
I did a full wipe and reinstalled the rom and am noticing a lot less lag than I was. I fully wiped and formatted everything 3x's each and then installed.

What I am experiencing is my phone going crazy at times. I will turn it on and it will like freeze for a few seconds and then it just starts vibrating, screens start scrolling, and apps start opening for no reason at all.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Tried it out last night. It works very well. Had it set up the same way Ian did. Free RAM was up to 168 from about 95. What I did notice was a little bit of edginess to the scrolling. Not quite as smooth as before. Also, I checked the CPU numbers in setcpu under time in state, and it appears to defeat the purpose of smartass. The percentages were way off. Overall, it works great, but like slamming a bottle of Jolt cola (twice the caffeine, twice the sugar), you find yourself grinding your teeth. When I have more time to play with it, I'll give it a try on different settings. Reverted to my backup for now. Zep did a great job with V6, but I guess it's not for me just yet.

...Sorry... I was on the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Full wipe, installed Nils 1.5, immediately installed 10/8 kernel before reboot. Working fine, for now.

Of course, 1.5 was working fine before, too, and then after a few days went completely to hell. We'll see how it goes. I have one last funny suspicion, though I know other people have been able to use it just fine, but SetCPU was the last thing I installed, and in fact didn't cause any problems right away, which is why I thought it was safe to continue with my testing. But it's my last suspect of poor behavior. It's just completely odd that once the phone gets borked it can't even run off a nandroid restore or anything, even full wipe + nandroid won't work.

Those bad blocks are still in the dmesg output which bothers me, though. Obviously that's not a ROM or kernel issue, but I don't really see how I can get Verizon to do anything about it so I may just be out of luck on that.

EDIT: Curiouser, and curiouser ... I installed 3 apps: Weatherbug Elite, My Coffee Card, and Google Voice, all from the Market. Figured those three were pretty safe, and I wanted to buy coffee this morning. :) Took a nandroid backup after installing the three of those and ... much to my surprise, upon reboot, no power button, no emmc, no sdcard, and HTC Sense crashed every time I uninstalled an application.

This is driving me nuts.

Edit 2: Now this has gotten me stumped. Fresh install, skipped all setup. After installing, rebooted into recovery, did a nandroid backup, and rebooted into ROM ... no power button menu, no emmc, no sdcard.

All I did was take a backup, and its messed up from the start. What's CWR doing that's causing problems? I am using 5.0.2.0 though I tried with 3.0.0.7 and it did the same thing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chrisloveskaos:
great work niles

running good for me , market seems the only thing being alittle laggy but no biggie

loaded tinys 10/8 kernel and running fine so far ..

tried the super v6 mod but not sure if i got it to work or not . .

keep up the goodstuff

ps anyway to incorporate this nightmode mod by itpf into a future release ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1143817

thx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Don't know. Will have look into it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] answerman:
My mistake: actually the Stock Plus is the one I'm using. So far so good, I forgot how "instant" this phone can be with the right setup. Again, nothing against Nils' ROM. He does great work, it just wasn't right for my situation. And I'll stop hijacking this thread now :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kiboe:
i've been playing around with the gingerbread_inc_deck rom, yes, it is AOSP, and you will lose 720p, but, it's very responsive and snappy.

as for the rom, i had bugs with it too, i don't think it;s so much the developer, our phone just wasn't designed to handle 3.5, that's pretty much it. even the evo has bugs with 3.5, and it's not all that different from the dinc other then it has a larger screen and a 4g radio.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcdanielvzw:
Can't wait for 1.6 so I can properly wipe my phone and install it!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] romsRfun:
After using 1.5 for a while I've noticed some lag from time to time. After killing apps running in the background my phone instantly becomes snappy again.

I use es task manager. It found a few more programs that the original task manager and running services didn't see.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chrisloveskaos:
thank you sir.

it is a pretty sick mod that turns off softkey lights from quick settings or settings/display for when browsing/reading in very lowlight

used to be an app "LED hacks" that worked but has been removed from market

again thx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikeshouse7:
I'm still having problems answering phone when I push ring up or try to side phone to ring neither will move.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Never touch the ring except to unlock. If you have a call drag the answer button or decline button to the ring. Never move the ring to phone, decline or answer as that will automatically reject/decline the call.

To repeat, the only time you touch the ring is to unlock the phone
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Just be careful since killing some apps can actually cause lag because the phone may need to start something to take another action. You could end up in a loop with the task manager killing something and the phone restarting it. Of course all that time it is also eating battery.

Just my personal opinion but I never recommend adding a task manager and just let the os handle it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Don't wait for 1.6 since I am in no hurry to release it since there isn't anything significant in it yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
That's funny... I always answer calls by pulling up the ring. Never lost one or had one rejected yet. It works.

What am I doing wrong?

...Sorry... I was on the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Maybe I got it backwards. I am just use to dragging the button for answer.

EDIT: Correct, dragging the ring up like unlocking or dragging the answer button to the ring when a call is received will answer the call. In order to decline you drag the decline button to the ring.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
i actually have a similar issue except i dont touch the ring to answer i drag the icon into the ring to answer and it doesnt pick up it seems to be an optimization thing as it lags out and the call is missed by the time the phone catches up. It happens about 4 out of 5 calls i get...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcdanielvzw:
Noted, and I couldn't wait anyway. My phone stopped getting email and email stopped working right in general, so I'm loading it now.

Can anyone confirm what the following APK's are for:

IdleScreen_Stock.apk (Stock market idle screen?)

MarketUpdater.apk (Android Market?)

FusionStockWidget.apk (?)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Both the stock apk's "fusion" and "lock screen" are for stocks, I uninstall both of those through Titanium with each version update. I can't speak on what "market updater."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcdanielvzw:
Thanks Slim. I think I was overzealous (and didn't keep a file of what I removed originally) and got rid of the market updater, and I believe that is for the actual market.

Things are much more stable now. I didn't use Titanium to remove apps, just the adb shell and then a reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Not a problem, just try to be cautious with removing system apps and you will be fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] captainm27:
Nils, I would like to thank you and I appreciate the fantastic work that you do here. But, (and I think I speak for many) Sense 3.5 just lags the phone. Now, I really really like the look and feel of Sense 3.5, but man!! Ok.... here's an example:

I'm sending a text message, and in the middle of it, I might get an email....so I hold the HOME key and the phone just delays for a bit before the Recent Apps windows shows up. So I switch to the email client and then more waiting.... and waiting.... and then it shows up. Same thing happens when switching from portrait to landscape, the phone lags and waits and waits until it shows up again.

Now, I understand that this is more due to the hardware limitations of the Incredible, as I played around with my friend's HTC EVO 3D and everything ran very smooth on it's Dual Core CPU and 1GB of RAM.

With that being said, Nils, I switched back to Version 1.3, of Gingersense 3.0 instead. This version runs much smoother for me without giving up all the nifty 3.0 stuff. So, please don't get rid of that one!!! Ok....

Keep up the good work!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris7os:
For those having lag and force close issues, use Rom manager to fix permissions, then reboot into recovery and wipe dalvik cache.

You gotta wait a bit until your cache rebuilds. Restart a few times after your initial reboot. Fix permissions and then reboot and wipe dalvik again.

This rom flies on my phone. Just be patient. Don't use the Google restore feature, put your apps back one at a time using market or titanium or root explorer.

Much love my friends.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcdanielvzw:
I was previously, but I didn't take note of which apk's I deleted the time before last so I made a mistake this past time. I took note this time though so I can always remove the right apk's from now on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have added a flashable zip for the stock kernel for this ROM in post 3

This fixes the G-Sensor problem introduced with Tiny's custom Kernel. If that problem bothers you just flash this kernel and you are good to go.

Tiny is looking into the problem with his custom kernel that breaks the G-Sensor and 3D and hopefully will have a fix soon.

I typically don't like to include a custom kernel in a ROM but the performance benefits of his kernel were great so I went with it. I think I will go back to the stock kernel in the future and let the user choose the kernel after weighing the pros and cons.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
out of curiosity, was there a issue with Tiny's Kernel and G sensor in the 3.0 v2.3 rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Newt:
Nils I have some fixes for you ill send them to you within the hour
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EricS96521:
I cannot send or receive picture messages. This is my second install of 1.5. Both times I have wiped everything, fresh/clean install.

Any help?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20phileagles:
Worked like a charm thanks man:-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Still getting no power button reboot menu, no emmc mount, and no sdcard mount after a reboot. This time, I wiped the phone back to the stone age.

0. In recovery, formatted: /boot, /cache, /system, /data, /datadata, /emmc, /sdcard (yes, all of them)

1. Flashed stock GB leak, per Nils' instructions.

2. *228 option 2 from stock GB, log into market, all per Nils' instructions, to the letter.

3. In recovery, wipe/reset, format /boot, format /system, flash Nils v1.5

4. Boot, skip setup, *228 option 2

5. After reboot, set up, no auto restore, uncheck backup, etc.

At this point, working great. Last time I tried this, I foolishly did a nandroid backup right away from recovery, and that broke it. This time, I just sat on it. (Not literally.) I installed NOTHING. No apps, just set it up with my google account, and that's it. Nothing from the market, no updates, nothing. I set up a couple widgets, changed a few settings in Incredible Tweaks. Ran fine all day yesterday. I even rebooted occasionally, just to make sure. No problems.

So this morning, I rebooted again. No reboot menu, no emmc, no sdcard.

I'm almost 100% convinced my phone is just flat out broken, now. :(

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Edit: NEVER MIND. Holy crap I think I figured it out.

In Settings -> Security I enable credential storage and set a password (I have to do this because the WiFi setup requires it for EAP authentication, for some reason?) then after a reboot, the reboot menu, emmc and sdcard mount problem returns. If I clear the credential storage and reboot, suddenly everything's shiny again.

Anyone want to give this a shot and see if they have the same problem?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
I followed your instructions and...............I can confirm this. I must say, I have no idea what this option is for, this is the first I've ever used credential storage. The reason being, I have NO idea what it is for.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
I have no clue why, but when you connect to an EAP secured wireless network (enterprise security, basically) it enables the credential storage. I suppose, if I have to put on my Information Security hat for a moment, the reasoning is that since you're storing BOTH a username and a password for EAP, instead of just a passphrase, or a hash of a passphrase, to connect to WPA or whatever, you want to password-protect the storage area also.

But it's stupid.

My tablet doesn't need credential storage for EAP. I think it's a Sense thing. (Senseless, in this case, and, as we can see, detrimental.)

If I had to guess as to WHY it causes the problem, when Android's booting up and it determines that a password has been used to protect an area on the emmc storage, it executes slightly different routines for mounting that storage, which probably haven't been tested by Nils or anyone else.

I should add that when I was on Nils' 3.0 and Hybrid ROMs I never had this problem -- I did have to re-enter the storage password manually after I rebooted before I could connect to my work network, though. It was the combination of that memory, plus noting that none of my tested installs broke until I got to work after installing them the night before ... specifically after the first time I rebooted after I got to work (because I always set up the phone to connect to the wireless network here, and thus enable the credential storage, and thus don't see the problem until I reboot!)

What a relief. Now I can finally start installing stuff and not have to worry about breaking anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Ahh, thank you for the explanation. I'm a long ways away from using my phone with an enterprise secured wifi network so I was not affected by that issue. Glad I could provide what little assistance that I could! Now you have a greater peace of mind about that issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] androg421:
I have the same problem. Comes with message "generic network failure."

If I open a received picture message, for example, there is an option to download. However, it doesn't download. At that point, another notification appears that says "failed to download--generic network failure."

Ditto on "Any thoughts?"
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
It does this even with "Mobile Network" enabled?