yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S General] RushAOZ:
Calm down kids. Before you go nuts this post is for pure speculation of the nexus s and how it will perform with ice cream sammich. Now that the next major update will support full hardware acceleration (..finally) I'm wondering what I call the king of the single core world will perform like. I feel like once it drops we will finally see what the hummingbird+vr540 combo can fully achieve. I'm excited. Hopefully Google won't screw us over and keep ice cream from us to glorify the nexus prime.

Cheers.

sent from the Touchwiz'd Nexus S 4g
[Nexus S General] rentaric:
No worries you'll have ICS by Q2/12. On hte other hand Google said that one of the main features (yet UNannounced) will not be in ICS, maybe it's hardware accelleration. ;)
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Actually we will have ics the moment the source is released. (As long as android repos are back up by then!)
[Nexus S General] p.pavljasevic:
I do hope you arw right, i really love google and that is the reason i just bought ns. If we dont get ics i will smash my ns as i did with my iphone.
[Nexus S General] tylercarter:
Don't do that! You could just fedex it to me instead. Lol
[Nexus S General] shrivelfig:
As much as I detest Apple, I would never destroy any of their products. One less phone on the market -> one more customer in their stores -> more money in their pockets. :(

Sell it on eBay, that way you get money, and they don't. :cool:
[Nexus S General] rentaric:
(Hint: they already got hte money for that device) ;)
[Nexus S General] p.pavljasevic:
I just couldnt be that cruel to the next owner, iphone just sucks. Ns is way better. But one good thing is to be said about apple products and thats their long update support for older phones. Hope google does thesame.
[Nexus S General] Nutsonfire:
Yeah like IOS4 on the 3G... whats for sure is that Apple is not good at taking care of even 2 year old phones and they do a good job of making the old phone look like crap when they release a new one.

In my opinion in reality it's quite the contrary of what you claim.
[Nexus S General] rentaric:
2y = out of warranty worldwide, I'd not support those phones either.
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
Lol iPhones
[Nexus S General] p.pavljasevic:
At least the 3G got ios4, oké its slow but at least its up to date security wise. I wanna see htc or samsung do that to 3 year old phones.

Dont get me wrong, i trully dislike Apple but they do stick to iphone updates.
[Nexus S General] RushAOZ:
They only do so to cripple older iPhones so the new one seems that much better to the isheep. Think about it. The 3gs and the i4 rock the same gpu and 200mhz difference clock speed on the cpus. Yet ios 4 runs like crap on the 3gs. The os still doesnt support true multitasking so what is really slowing down the 3gs compared to the i4. Some missing features and what I think is imposed sluggishness make the phone look that much worse to the i4. I had a 3gs. I was part if the iherd until I got fed up and got my epic. ****, I bet the hero can run ios 4 damn well.

sent from the Touchwiz'd Nexus S 4g
[Nexus S General] idelgado782:
Haha. I was an isheep and followed the iherd everywhere they went. Then I became curious and saw saw the nexus for free. I said "what have I got to lose? It's free and if I don't like it I have 30 days to return it" well I'm just mad that I didn't have the strength to break from the iherd sooner. Lol!!! I still have a Mac and and an iPad. I'm happy with my mac, however I'm trying to save money to get the tab.
[Nexus S General] pfer10:
Ouch! The hero was one bad mofo for what it was!
[Nexus S General] ZeroCool84:
iPhone 4 has more RAM. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out why it's noticeably faster.
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
Clock for clock the iPhone 4's processor blows away the 3GS
[Nexus S General] Esteway.619:
How did this become a iPhone discussion lol.
[Nexus S General] asb123:
If ICS doesn't support hardware acceleration then I dont know what to say. Seriously, I have been waiting for that since the HTC DREAM...

Having a relatively lag free experience on the superphones should be a top priority.
[Nexus S General] RushAOZ:
More ram and a faster processor isn't a reasonable explanation as to why ios doesn't run well enough on the 3gs when Ios is very simple and isn't CPU intensive. Maybe whole running certain apps yes. But trust me when I tell you the 3gs was good enough to run ios 4 with no issues whatsoever.

sent from the Touchwiz'd Nexus S 4g
[Nexus S General] voyager_s:
Agreed...it seems that regardless of dual core cpus and more ghz the lags still creep up every now and then. Galaxy s 2 being the only exception so far.

I'm thinking about whether or not to get the next nexus but I'm still waaaaay in love with my nexus s after almost a year. I really hope we get hardware/gpu acceleration with ICS.

It should be top priority.
[Nexus S General] Tzorg:
Looking forward to hardware acceleration, should it come. I'd rather use the stock browser but without acceleration it's not good enough.
[Nexus S General] ghost010:
No.

SOONER!!!!

Read: (from androidcentral)

"Google will be releasing Ice Cream Sandwich in late October, OMAP devices will be the preferred platform (and receive the update before Tegra devices), and the Notion Ink will have the Adam updated by November."

thats sooner than Q2/12

if this guy was right. we will have it end oct begin nov
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Yeah but we have ARM 7 chip architecture which was not mentioned.
[Nexus S General] markywylder:
Hint: but they wouldn't get the money from the next potential customer :)

Good thinkin'!
[Nexus S General] apreichner:
All of the current android processors have an arm v7 instruction set as far as I know, even the tegra 2 devices. The omap 4 processors have a dual core arm cortex a9 cpu, the tegra devices do as well. The 3rd Gen omap devices have the arm cortex a8 CPU which is the same as the Samsung hummingbird.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP

As for ICS on the nexus s. As long as the source is released it will come soon to the ns at least unofficially or through CM.
[Nexus S General] tylerwatt12:
I think CM releasing an ICS build is kind of iffy. CM may run into some problems with google apps integration and with the new launcher. It might be a while :/
[Nexus S General] Tzorg:
I'm sure that when ICS is out it'll be a race to be the first to launch an ICS based ROM by all ROM developers, I think CM is likely to be one of the first.
[Nexus S General] rentaric:
He didn't want a new device, that's why he/she went with a used one. That customer wouldn't have generated value for Apple directly anyways, maybe indirectly via accessories/app store.
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Sorry of course, my mistake.
[Nexus S General] ghost010:
dont forget!

we have the nexus.

first nexus S.

than nexus one(if posible)

than all the omap devices

and after that tegra devices.

;)
[Nexus S General] mapin0518:
,sigh, yes they purposefully slow down older generations to get you to upgrade. As if they have any trouble getting customers to begin with. give me a break <puts on tin foil hat>
[Nexus S General] DoomFragger:
If a new Nexus is going to be introduced, I believe we will have the same as last year.

Nexus S (2010) -> Nexus One (2011)

Nexus Prime (2011) -> Nexus S(2012) -> Nexus One? (2012)
[Nexus S General] castro08:
If you Google ice cream sandwich ..

There rumors about it being release late Oct.. and the new nexus .. being on Verizon November 3. So dose that mean we would be the first to get it??
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
No. And this has been covered plenty of times.
[Nexus S General] leerobson99:
Guys, I think ics being 'the most ambitious version of Android to date' and also with Google wanting to cut down on fragmentation, we will see ics, officially, before the year is out. Mark my words.

I'm excited to see the new hardware

of the next nexus but will probably stick with the nexus s for a while yet, purely because I'm in a two year contract ending Dec 2012 (doomsday lmao if u believe in that crap) in time for the next nexus haha. Saying that I can upgrade in June ;) hmmm.... Ha.
[Nexus S General] cttttt:
So true.

I too hate them--dont get me wrong--but they do maintain pretty long term support. Also, they seemed to calm down on their product releases (phonewise at least). 3G, 3GS and 4...that's it. Compare that to Android, where even Nexus phones lose official support almost immediately. Also the 100 Android manufacturers have resorted to using Quad Core as a selling point...for phones. If this isn't an indication that the market is saturated, I don't know what is.

But I digress...I'm really hopeful they manage to come through and make ICS work well on the NS.

Fingers crossed,

- chris
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
This was posted by Google today and give some insights to ICS:

http://android-developers.blogspot....Feed:+blogspot/hsDu+(Android+Developers+Blog)

One thing is that the guide says if you want your app to be limited to 7" tablets or larger, then set minimum screen width to 600 dp. This means that Google is not expecting any phone displays to be more than 540 pixels wide (qHD). I think Nexus 3 will have qHD, not 720p. I think someone maybe heard qHD and thought it means 720 and a silly rumor got started. But only time will tell for sure.

Another insight is just confirmation that the Action Bar will be prominent and we won't have hardware buttons.
[Nexus S General] thegod2012:
the heroc

was the best if only we didn't get shutdown on the webos project i would have never have sold it to get my ns
[Nexus S General] jrdatrackstar:
sorry guys, but I don't think even the hardware acceleration Google is claiming to bring to ICS will cure lag....not for the Nexus S anyway...

here's a good read as to why....

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=32294060

this isn't to say it won't be smooth (because the Galaxy S II is very smooth) but I dont' think we'll ever see "iPhone" or "Windows Phone" smooth.

glad I picked up an Arrive when I did.....
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
Just like iPhone 3g could upgrade to iOS 4 but the original iPhone couldn't. Even though they have exactly the same hardware minus the 3g of course.
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
Isnt there a class action lawsuit out because of that
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
i've been giving a lot of thought towards my next phone purchase lately and something occured to me: The Nexus phones have always sort of mirrored the Ferrari GTOs.

For those non-petrolheads out there, Ferrari has made three models which it gave the GTO moniker to: the 1962 250 GTO, the 1984 288 GTO, and the 2012 599 GTO. The 250 and 288 were cars desinged for grand touring style racing but were then released to the public and they were race cars that you could drive every day. Yet they were still race cars.

Similarly, the Nexus One and the original (i9020t) Nexus S were phones designed to be hacked to bits. Sure, you can use them every day as your daily driver but waiting just beneath the surface was a monster waiting to be played with.

And then, in 2011, after grand touring racing had ended, Ferrari launched the 599 GTO which had no racing pedigree. It was just a flashed up version of the 599 with serious performance in mind. To drive, the thing is a beast but its still just a roadcar. Thats how the Nexus Prime feels to me. Like a normal phone with a god-like name bestowed upon it.

Hell, even the Nexus S started showing signs of the future, much like the 288 GTO (which was designed for a racing series that went bust before the car could launch); it wasn't quite the pinnacle of performance, it wasn't quite as mental as the Nexus One, but it still felt special and you still generally paid a bit more to have it. Now the Nexus Prime will be launched on all carriers just like any other phone and with HTC making it much easier to root their phones, what place does a Nexus phone have? To showcase the newest Android version?

There was a time when if you talked with someone who was at least a little in the know about android and you mentioned having a Nexus you were regarded in awe for having the best of the best but will the Prime really be that? My opinion is, and I'm sure I'll be flamed for saying this that I severely doubt it. Chances are, when it comes time for me to buy a new phone I'll end up with an HTC device. I've gone from Super AMOLED to SLCD before and having used a HTC Sensation with the qHD display I'd have to say its not that bad. Its even got better pixel density than the SGS2. Plus, it'll get ICS, not right away but it will.

Maybe I'm still not quite over the hurt of buying what should have been the best Android phone in spite of it lacking 4G and then having Google go behind my back and make a new one with 4G for another carrier. Then again, maybe I should have learned my lesson when I bought an Epic 4G thinking it was going to be the best only to have it forgotten about by Samsung. Either way, owning Samsung devices has left nothing but a sour taste in my mouth and perhaps thats enough.
[Nexus S General] SComp23:
Too long, mentally unable to comprehend.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I'm glad you DID have the mental capacity to post something inane and pointless.
[Nexus S General] SComp23:
Agreed. I think that's something we can ALL be thankful for.
[Nexus S General] BlackHawkA4:
I'm not going to quote the enormous post; however, I did read it. So I'll quote you instead since everyone knows what your referring to. (See, it was useful for something).

All I know about the Nexus line is I'm sticking with the S until NEXT Xmas. As long as we get ICS I will be fine with this phone. I too had the Epic 4g and while it did leave a horrible taste in my mouth about Samsung SOFTWARE the nexus destroyed that with it's greatness. The new Nexus will obviously lure me in wanting it; but, I know next year will be even better; and, given the fact that ICS merges Gingerbread and Honeycomb: giving it a year to completely mesh together and become one with an EVEN BETTER device will be better.

Hopefully the Nexus will stay the Nexus as we know it. Which, I still believe the entire thing with the T-Mobile nexus being put on the back burner has something to do with the whole ATT thing and it looks like Sprint is going to be the new back for Android devices.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldinmurguz:
Hey is there a way to install this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1113070 ROM with data2ext option
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
As long as the dev does not program the rom for it, I would say the answer is no.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldinmurguz:
seems like the only data2ext rom is this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1200517

by the way is data2ext and data2sd the same feature or...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
No, that's not true:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1045824

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1143456

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=957291
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldinmurguz:
ok maybe I wasn't clear enough, a rom that supports data2ext /data2sd gingerbread with sense, SuperNova Xtreme I can not download only supernova classic available on their site ;-( MUI Rom I don't like...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kyang03:
ok so im trying to install the rom

Desire HD 3.06.405.1 - Sense 3.0 - Android 2.3.5

on the instructions it says Flash Magldr versions, don't reboot, flash Tytung cLK kernel for DHD sense 3, reboot !

have done all of that BUT it just stays on the HTC screen, do i keep waiting?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonas2295:
I think you have Magldr ?!

Then you don´t have to flash the clk .zip !

Just flash the Magldr zip and reboot.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Krimat2003:
Yes.... i have the same Rom. When you using Magdlr you don´t need to flash the Kernel.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kyang03:
so the Magldr zip is the rom itself right?

i've tried that also and still its a no go

i've done it like 10 times and it just stays at the HTC screen.

what i wondered was what does this mean at the end? CWR: 5/445/5

but by flashing magldr zip i kinda wondered what that meant? i've read around and well it meant doing this

1.Flash MAGRLD 1.1.3

- Go to Bootloader (reboot phone + volume down)

- Connect your phone to PC

- Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe(on PC) and follow guide step by step

- Phone auto reboot and goto MAGLDR113 menu

- Done

or is magldr zip the rom zip

i've done that and its still no luck, i've also have just wipe data, etc and then flashed the rom and it still just stayed on the htc screen

another thing is that since im moving up to sence 3.0 is there anything else i need to run?

but i wil try again
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mutil:
you cant flash rom without cwr partition.

is your phone tmous or euhd2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kyang03:
its a tmous

---------- Post added at 02:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:54 PM ----------

so when it says use patition 155MB (use patition EXT2-3-4 on SD card)

do i go to ad recovery and create partitions on 2 3 4?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kyang03:
ok i used clockwork to partition the sd using 512mb and 64mb im guessing that made ext 3

and so after that i'd drag the back up files and the new rom inside but it just stays on HTC screen
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samsamuel:
Because you haven't flashed a rom yet. After the cwm partition size is set you boot into magldr, choose ad recovery, which will then enter cwm, and from cwm (orange text) you choose flash zip from SD, browse to where the rom.zip file is on your SD and select it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kyang03:
yeah i have done that, it just stays on HTC screen waited an hour and came back stayed there
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mutil:
what you have done is just partitioning sd card. since you have a tmous hd2 it isn't so necessary for you having an sd-ext.

in order to flash any rom you have to do a cwr partition which will partition your NAND.

for this rom and tmous i attach 5-445-5 cwr partition.

to apply:

0)in mgldr- ad recovery- wipe data factory reset just in case

1)connect mobile to pc

2)in mgldr menu choose usb flasher;be sure you see usb flasher......usb in screen

3)in unrared attachment right click on DAF,run as administrator

4)after installation is complete: mgldr-ad recovery-install zip from sd-choose zip from sd-find rom.zip- after installation is complete reboot.

you can use attached file for other roms too. just open flash.cfg using notepad. rearrange it according to rom's needs and save
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kyang03:
oooo ok so thats what it meant when said to use cwr partition the daf, ok i will try it and reply back what happens.

---------- Post added at 02:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:29 AM ----------

YES! finaly it has gotten pass the htc screen now its loading! thanks Mutil you made my 4 days of trying worth waiting and trying!

So after trying some Rome which ROM is better that has android 2.3 and sense 3.0 something like the desire hd
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] netchip:
Recommended maximum frequency: 720 MHz

Very nice:

Embedded 430MHz TI TMS320C64x DSP, Embedded image signal processor (12MP camera support), 2D/3D graphics acceleration (IVA 2+), Imagination Technologies POWERVR SGX SGX530 graphics core (OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenVG), SmartReflex technologies, M-shield mobile security, ARM TrustZone, Composite and S-video TV output, XGA/WXGA 16M-color (24-bit definition) display support, High Speed USB2.0 On-The-Go support :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] quan815:
We are currently working on TV out and USB OTG..But we are lack of experienced Developers to make it work..:(
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] yamchirobe:
But there are many 1ghz omap 3 devices like the optimus black and n9, droid 2 and galaxy sl
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] bajju123:
yeah even the mighty droid x has got the same board ;)

it has tv out :D

so thers every possibility dat we ll get tv out once we have cm7 running..

all the credit goes to the dev's ! :)
[Vega General] Bayton:
Just curious, once 4.0 is released are we likely to see it on the Vega?

Assumably, 4.0 will be open sourced as everything pre-3.0 was and would be a breeze in comparison to porting 3.2.

What say you, oh wise devs of Vega?
[Vega General] Karl231:
We can only hope, ICS is being marketed as the android for everything, and that includes high and low spec devices, this suggests that it may change dynamically to suit the spec of he device it is running on.

Hopefully if we got it on the vega it would help with the low ram issue that vegacomb currently has.

I think we have two things to look out for, the first being the release date of ICS, slowly less people will be interested in the vega.

Another is how similar it is to honeycomb, a lot of work has gone into getting honeycomb onto the vega, if ICS needs all of that work done again, it is less likely that we will get ICS.
[Vega General] Bayton:
Interesting views, thanks!

My understanding is that given the closed nature of honeycomb, it wads a lot more difficult to port than ICS would be, which is supposed to be open source.
[Vega General] BTaylor927:
Well, Cyanogenmod will be using ICS when the source comes out and Cyanogenmod supports the Vega, so we can reasonably assume we will get ICS.
[Vega General] BeeGee_Tokyo:
last CM7 update for Vega was on August 31st and it still doesn't support internal 3G and GPS. I don't think anybody is working on the CM7 for Vega anymore.
[Vega General] Bayton:
If CM do get around to progressing beyond GB for the Vega I will be impressed.

I understand their buildbot went down a short while ago, so nothing is updating for Vega at the moment..

I'd much rather see dedicated ROMs from the awesome Devs who know the vega intimately to be honest though!
[Vega General] O_G:
Please people stop posting questions in the development section.

Mods please move to general.

Take it easy :)
[Vega General] vujke025:
Sounds interesting. :)

Sent from my ViewPad 10S running ViewCOMB 3.2
[Vega General] MikhailM1:
Just in case someone stumbles on this thread and is not yet aware of it, ICS for the Vaga and similar devices has been out since 31 December 2011 as VagaICS. The latest version is VegaICS Beta1 originally developed by Cass67 and ejtange, but now being further developed by a whole number od devs simulataniously. Seach for VegaICS Beta1 on XDA.
[Vega General] mipper100:
I think Cass and co are working on 4.04 too, been a bit quiet on vega development, looks like alot of people have moved onto other devices
[Vega General] dmarchant:
Check the last couple of pages of this thread on Modaco to see how they are all getting on with ICS - http://android.modaco.com/topic/330834-advent-vega-kernel-source-code-now-available/page__st__1700
[XPERIA X8 General] Sira.:
Hey Guys

How are you all

So today i have finally given Custom ROMs up ..

As They are all not workin perfectly ..

As after some time .. it starts to Lag

So i want to go back To SE's Original ROM

But..

SE's ROM Doesn't Look good .. As it is not highly customizable

So

i came up with another idea..

Are there any Custom 2.1 ROMs ?

Or something Similar ??

..

OR !

Any custom themes for the Original ROM ?

i'd Appreciate ur answers ..

..

One other thing

Is it possible 2 install " Theme chooser " For the original SE's ROM ?

____________________

P.S : Sorry for my bad english :)
[XPERIA X8 General] MikuSE610:
^ Theming Stock 2.1 is possible, as you know SE themed it themselves.

You must edit the framework.apk.
[XPERIA X8 General] Sira.:
Yah i know that bro ..

but Are there any Themes Here ??

Cause all i found are only CM6/CM7 themes ..

So am just wondering ?
[XPERIA X8 General] MikuSE610:
Unfortunately few people uses stock 2.1 so the themers doesn't even bother. You can check the General Thread for Android Themes and Apps.
[XPERIA X8 General] proadi96:
Haha nice mistake :D
[XPERIA X8 General] BIG JD:
If u upload ur framework and give me a idear of what u want ill do it for u

super.sense on x8