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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMINENT1:
Lol! Such a long winded post. I merely stated how easy it is to take off the back part of the hinge and you're making it sound as impossible as time travel. 2 screws, and replace. Done.

Now, whether they choose this easy route, make the tab the same thickness (at least at the bottom) or go with a **** move by renigging on what they said about being compatible, is anyone's guess and pure speculation right now.

The fact is, I don't really care. I don't mind jumping ship if they don't make it compatible. I'm looking forward to the next greatest thing with W8.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
Definitely planning to acquire TF2 with Android as a first tablet. No Microsoft cr@p aka Windows8 for me plus it's immature and won't be ready until later in 2012.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paran0idAndr0id:
Ill buy it porbably after 5 to6 months after release as i did it with the tf 1.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reaperzero:
kal-el seems to be over hyped :/ and now we get other quad's from qualcomm etc might as well wait and after the smoke clears re evaluate our options :/ prices will drop and specs will rise eventually
[G2 and Desire Z General] aholidayatc:
I've been running cm since back in the g1 days, a few months back my wifi broke and I figured it was something that needed to be worked out so I didn't think anything of it. Well it still won't turn on, I'll try and turn it on but about 20 seconds later it turns itself off. Whenever it first started acting up my phone would just bootloop forever. I've tried everything I can think of with nothing working. Can someone please help?!
[G2 and Desire Z General] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Try install a new kernel, i recommend umarokernel

Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ
[G2 and Desire Z General] aholidayatc:
I've actually tried a few different ones and nothing worked... tried several radios too
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
Did the WiFi seem to break when you flashed a new ROM, or did it seemingly break out of nowhere?

Honestly sounds like a hardware issue if its existing on different ROMs, kernels, radios, etc...
[G2 and Desire Z General] aholidayatc:
Seemed to break when I installed a new rom, not for sure though. I've tried different roms, kernels, radio's, superwipe...
[G2 and Desire Z General] racing_md:
I noticed on my phone this week. The phone would "see" the available networks but say that they were not in range and never connect. I am on CM7 and have never had an issue like this before. I just flashed the latest nightly and everything is back to normal. If you have flashed several ROM's and radio's I am also inclined to believe that it is perhaps a hardware issue.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zukko:
hi.

i have the same problem.

used cm7.1

wifi worked about a day.

then it didn't start.

when i start wifi it gives an error.

and come a window with force close and wait for response.

tried several roms. used superwipe2 and superwipe2+

but nothing.

its not starting. sometimes it starts but not scanning anything.

then gives the same error.

help pls.
[HTC Incredible S] veitograf:
i tried the worldwide 1.2 but it didnt change anything, still couldnt get connection on arhd.

fasterfix from the market helped, gps lock-on after about 5sec.

edit: i will try the alternative and report back. :)
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Did you try v1.3? It's at the top of the post under "Downloads".
[HTC Incredible S] veitograf:
1.3 works like a charm:)
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
i'm using madmaxx's Recovery, do i still need to perform this step -->

3. Mount /system/ partition (on the main menu, select the "Mounts and storage" option, then "mount /system")
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Honestly, mounting should be done automatically. I've left that step in there in case someone had a really old version of CWR installed. After you run through the process, you can open gps.conf and see if it changed on the phone.
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
thanks i'll try this out!
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
I have a weird situation. My IncS doesn't like any kind of optimized gps.conf except the stock one. My IncS was bought in Hong Kong. Whenever I use an optimized gps.conf (including this one), GPS Status shows only 1-3 sats which are located exactly at the far north position and of course it can never get a lock. Resetting AGPS data doesn't help. Once I switch back to stock version, GPS can locate sats and lock normally.

I'm not complaining about my GPS. It's useable but not as stable and quick as my previous Hero. I just don't understand why it doesn't like these new gps.conf file. BTW, the stock gps.conf looks like this:
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Yeah, it should not behave like that whatsoever. And, your phone is fully unlocked? What ROM are you using? Do you have the best/recommended radio installed?

Other's have not stated the same problem when testing for the IncS release.

Are you inside or outside? What kind of visibility do you have sky wise?
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
I am really glad you are interested in my problem.

I'm currently using Virtuous Unity 2.37 with latest radio 3805.06.03.16. I've tried other radios before.

When I use GPS Status, I try to stay in open area. It's like my phone thinks all the satellates were in the far north.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Can you verify that the gps.conf on the device is actually the one I provide? And, do you have a suplrootcert there? If so, open it as a text doc. It will be jibberish but at the top you will see if it's Verisign, Tmobile, or what company. Let me know.
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
Yes, I can confirm your GPS.conf file is there. But I found no /etc/SuplRootCert in my phone. So is it a problem?
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Nope, shouldn't be an issue. Just was wondering about it.

Could you try with the stock ROM plus the GPS patch? Backup first, test, revert back to your normal setup.
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
Restoring back to stock is a huge undertaking. I might try it later. In the meantime, anything else I can try?
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
I didn't mean literal stock. There normally is a ROM for phones that is just the stock ROM deoxed or whatever. I use ARHD right now. It's available for your phone. Give it a go.

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Also,

In preparing for the next iteration of the GPS patch, I'm trying to get a better grasp of the suplrootcert's on various devices. So far I have Verisign and TMobile. If anyone would be willing to check their phone and let me know if they have a different one (via private message here on xda)that would be great!

You can find "suplrootcert" as a file in /etc/ just like where the gps.conf is located.

To see which you have, open it up as a text document. It will look like jibberish. But, the top portion will say a company name within the jibberish. If you don't see Verisign or Tmobile, I would like to get ahold of the one on your device!!!
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
Oh, before using VU, I was actually using ARHD and had the same problem. Anyway, really appropriate your help. :)
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Did it work fine before the patch, though? Can you get a screenshot of GPS Status after running for about 2 minutes?

I'm sorry I can't quickly resolve your phones issue. I'm curious about its hardware and whether it was greatly stable beforehand, or what...
[HTC Incredible S] BWA80:
Hi!

Tried the patch 1.3, but no change. It takes about 2-5 mins to get a signal/lock.. I have always had this problem, and it disconnects easily. Donno why..

ROM: ARHD 1.1.7
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Do you have a case on it? Wifi enabled? Did you let GPS Status sit and run for several minutes? Consider doing this outside with a clear sky view maybe at a park nearby. I know, it's getting cold up in Finland.
[HTC Incredible S] BWA80:
HEHEHE, good one! :D

Actually anything above 0 celsius is summer for us, how sad is that.. :eek:

No case, my baby is totally naked. wifi not enabled. I´ll do the GPS status sit and run tomorrow, too dark now and the wolves are howling.

Will report back.

Thanks!!
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Let it run with WiFi on inside or within range of you WiFi for a bit. That way, it will download the aGPS and XTRA data for sure. It could be that for some reason your cell-network's data connection isn't getting those files through to your phone. They are very small (less than 50KB). But, who knows.

After you have ran GPS Status within range of WiFi, go outside and try it without rebooting, as I mentioned previously.

My wife's brother is in Helsinki. I give him crap when he complained about "how hot" it was there in July. 28C when it was 45C here.
[HTC Incredible S] naturelle:
Hello crypted,

please give me some more information to help me understanding that your promise for a complete better gps is not only voodoo:

As I know, GPS is GPS - a satellite signal. And the receiver in the phone is just a receiver. So if the unit locked to the satellites it has locked. Nothing more and nothing less. Your file supports "only" a modified gps.conf for the phone. AGPS and gps.conf are only necessary to get faster sat-fixes. Even when the phone got a sat-fix it does not need gps.conf any longer as ephemerides and other data are provided from the satellites itself.

So, as I understand: your gps.conf can help to get a faster sat-fix, but it can't give us a better signal-strength, as signal-strength is depending on the quality of the antenna and the chipset.

Am I right?

Perhaps: are you able to explain the particular variables you've set in the gps.conf?

At the moment especially: why did you change the URI of asia and the north-america ntp-server?

What does INTERMEDIATE_POS= do?

Thank you!
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
I'm going to assume that there is a language barrier and you didn't mean to come across as negative as this reads, else I wouldn't answer at all.

If you are basing this on GPS, yes then you are right. But, GPS as your cellphone is concerned can be aGPS. aGPS is assisted by data from networks, servers, time, and the satellites themselves. Militarily, the satellites were designed to provide some data to be learned by receivers to keep GPS locking as quick as possible.

The idea of this patch is to utilize all capabilities, whether inherently present by hardware, by software only, or a mixture of both.

INTERMEDIATE_POS is an intermediate positioning variable. If activated, it aids in faster locks based upon prior information learned by your unit regarding GPS satellites in your field of view.

Yes, I changed pool NTP servers around. As a Linux developer of some time, I used a lot of NTP stuff to keep cluster servers mirrored and synced. I used my education to assist NTP here. Why do I make changes? I have scripts monitoring pool response time and I modify pools based on those results.

My current file is just modified, yes. Modification at this point is instrumental in getting your GPS going. I will offer SuplRootCert's for those who want them starting with the next iteration. In two iterations, I plan to surprise people with another benefit.

I appreciate your interest and I am slightly annoyed to be accused of just modifying a GPS and not really providing a solution. Since 1.0, this has had over 30,000 downloads. How do I know that? I monitor downloads on my personal server by parsing Apache logs.

I did all of this for personal use; it worked great. So, I started releasing it to help others. If only I knew voodoo...
[HTC Incredible S] naturelle:
Negative? There is nothing negative except for some critical questions would be negative for you. I have no reason to be negative in any form, I just try to understand the basics and not only "believe"...

Hmm. It's a bit difficult to me to find the right words, but I do not think that the receiver is "learning" something like e.g. a "fuzzy logic controller" or something similar. To get a fast fix, AFAIK only two things are necessary:

1. the almanac / ephemeris data from the satellites

2. an accurate time on the receiver

A more accurate time results in a faster fix.

Or, with quoting Wikipedia:

"aGPS, is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the startup performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system."

... with downloading orbital information from a server instead of waiting for the satellites.

So, I do not see - with the "tests" the users made - how this betters the receiving signal or the TTFF. To get really significant results we need a comparison table with and without your gps.conf, made with the same phone with

completely cleared efs-cache

.

It's too simple for me to read "I've tested, before it was bad, after that it was good" as I've seen very often that exiting and restarting "GPS status" helped on getting a fast fix: first start of GPS status: no fix after one minute. Exiting GPS status and immediately restart: fix after three seconds.

Thank you for explaining, but what kind of "learned information" do you mean beside almanac?

Of course. And I think this is the most important improvement in your gps.conf. With a more accurate unit-time you get a faster fix, as synchronizing is better.

Hey mate, I do not want to harass you. I just think that it is only a placebo-effect for the most users and an improvement for just a few - that's all.

What I mean with "voodoo": some people really seem to believe that GPS is a kind of voodoo - it is not, it's just techique... ;)

P.S.: just found: almanac-data has a validity of about three month, ephemeris-data of about 4-6hrs. Source (german language)

So in my opinion: in the ephemeris-time-window the ttf-speed is only influenced from the accuracy of the phone's clock. Correct me if this is wrong.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
I'm here to help users with their problems. There will always be skeptics of everything. If that's your frill, then good on you. We can consider discussing this in private so that this thread isn't cluttered with nonsense.

If we are to engage in such dialogue, back up your statements with empirical data. I've tested this; I've perfected this; I trust this. I had two devices with no GPS functionality. Now, they work swimmingly.

One thing I know from my own profession, trusting Wikipedia to explain everything is not wise. aGPS can be obtained and created through a multitude of methods. Your quote isn't entirely encompassing.

I'm glad my work has sparked something. I encourage you to build a reliable method if mine isn't seen as such compared to where things presently sit for many phone users.
[HTC Incredible S] naturelle:
That's fine, but which of the modified options is the real reason for that?

I do not trust wikipedia. But it was a quick link.

Of course. That's the nature of a quote.

I've never said that your method is not helping anybody. But more helpful would be a documentation about the different variables in the gps.conf, so that everyone is able to understand it.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Apparently, you have not kept up with my discussions on a road map. There are variables that I deemed pointless from the get-go. Those have no effect, at least for me. However, others said they were paramount for their devices. Knowing that a variable that is undefined and unused wouldn't cause harm to one phone, including it to work for another was not a big deal for me to do. It made sense to do one big version than a bunch of small ones.

But, I have decided to keep my work tailored to a specific few chipsets. This has led to the plans over the next two iterations. I think I made reference to this in your private messages that kept posing questions to me. And I would have thought that the honesty of my previous answers would have starved off the voodoo/placebo accusations. Apparently, that was a false assumption.

When I have time to document everything, I will probably do that. I have explained everything worth explaining to the hundreds of people asking things. But, very few would find that useful to them as it would be jibberish. And, why do I need to take the little time I dedicated to working on the actual functionality to document each little thing, when most of those questions can be answered by studying, playing, and using a adb logging option?

Please let this thread be used for those using the patch and who might need some assistance, rather than for hunting down some way to make me look like a voodoo magician. I do this for no profit and to be helpful. It isn't my day job and this shouldn't turn into a court room. That is why I like doing this.
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
I tried this morning but got no sat at all. :mad: I'll try again later today.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Hey, I'm here to help and see if we can't make sense of the issue you're facing.

Now, you have tried it on two ROMs. Let's make sure we're clear on everything:

1. Was your GPS functioning immediately before trying this patch? If not, when was it working in a reliable and stable manner that you last recall?

2. What kernel are you using?

3. Have you considered trying a stock kernel? (not making it stock again, just that known-to-be-stable kernel...)

4. What are your surroundings like when testing? Outside/inside? Lots of high-rise buildings or open area? If inside: concrete or wood, and what floor? Cloudy, sunny?

5. What software are you using for playing with the GPS? GPS Status? Maps? What else?

6. Do you have any special GPS-fixing software from the Market installed? Some apps run in the background or change settings themselves. These will conflict or override my patch on-the-fly...

Let's make sure that we're not having a hardware, software conflict, or kernel issue for sure. I don't think it's kernel from our short conversation.
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
Just let me know if you need anything more. :D
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Okay, I sent you a private message containing a link to a test build. Give it a try and let me know.
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
sorry to report that your test build didn't make any difference. still no sat found in GPS Status over a period of 15 mins.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
I wish I could be more precise here. On my device, Unity's kernel and GPS work fine so I would be up to rule kernel out.

I'll ponder it and I'll ask the IncS testers if they can try and test out the kernel at some point, too.
[HTC Incredible S] Sac's Droid:
Would this by chance work with the verizon incredible 2? I know that the incredible s and 2 are very similar. I am also on cyanogenmod's latest nightly
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Yes, it should. I've had reports of numerous devices being 100% supported with this. You'll need root first.

Be aware that the latest nightlies have not had properly functioning GPS units. This, at least, is happening with HTC Sensation users. Apparently, some of the code used in the latest builds for their phone have GPS stuff disabled.

Let me know how it fares for you!
[HTC Incredible S] youp20:
My GPS works very great thanks crypted for helping us, very good signal, and fast to fix...does not matter for people who discourage you!!
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Thanks! We're revving up for v2.0. It will be a lean and mean beast, as I said on another thread. Some optional EXTRAs will come along with it. Nothing too exciting in my opinion, but there's been some curiosity.

I expect v2.0 to be pushed to another 5 to 10 devices for official support. After that, I'll be doing a greater justice for GPS users for another milestone release probably late October for v3.0.
[HTC Incredible S] geeti:
I am in Ottawa, but with this patch, I was located in Winipeg!!
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
The patch couldn't cause this result. What Rom and kernel are you using?

Edit. Umm that sounds like your phones using your cell service or wifi to report its location...and the server's telling it you're there.

Is your gps even on and getting satellites? See with gps status.
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
Hmm actually i'm in Canada and it made my GPS worse too actually.

Reverting back to the original fixed it.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Well that's perplexing. There's no reason variable wise. Did you try the alternative patch? There's only one variable it changes and is the only one to be able to cause that I believe. Please report if you tried that other patch.

Only really old gps hardware is affected generally. But one of those old units is in first generation desirehd so I made the alternative to alleviate that.
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
Nah just the first worldwide v1.3..

After that I figured I wouldn't mess with it anymore.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
Well, then we cannot know if there's a legitimate problem or if it's just that pesky GPS issue that causes me to make the alternate option for some with older GPS hardware in their phones... :confused:

If you, and geeti, would try it out I would appreciate it.

EDIT: Assuming it fails, I'd like to know what ROM and kernel you use on the IncS. And, what your GPS situation was like prior to flashing it.
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
Interestingly, on my phone (CM7.1 Nightly 90, radio 06.05.03.03), the 1.2 patch gives me a significant improvement (lock in under 10 seconds, usually), whereas trying the 1.3 patch this morning seemed to kill my phone's ability to even detect satellites. Any idea why this might be?
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
That is odd indeed. But, hey if one version works better stick with it!

I've heard a lot of chatter that CM dev's have screwed up GPS in the source code lately. On another one of my aGPS threads, users were pasting the code and talking about how it killed aGPS entirely. Another user mentioned a similar problem this morning about his phone which is running CM nightlies...

Sounds ROM-y to me.
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
Well, in any case, thanks to the 1.2 patch my phone's locking the fastest it ever has (and faster than my Hero ever did, which for some reason is the phone people seem to idolise for its GPS capability). So a big, hearty thankyou for that!
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
My pleasure to assist... And, this just again proves the nay-sayer a few pages back was out of whack.
[HTC Incredible S] pakman00:
I'm in HK and also am running VU 2.37. Have you tried downloading fasterfix from the market and setting it to China, clear and download the cache. It seems to find more satellites. In general, if I'm in Central/ Admiralty area where I work I find I'm lucky if I get a lock at all. I blame that on the tall buildings. I just got back from a business trip to Korea and found I got a lock pretty quickly when I had a clear sky view. For the heck of it and to kill time while taking a taxi from the airport to HK island, I turned on the map function (wanted to play with the navigation function) and found it got a lock fairly quickly. But when I got into the midlevels area (narrow streets surrounded by tall buildings) it started to struggle to get a lock.
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
itandy & all: Yes, tall buildings is extremely hard to overcome because your field of view becomes so narrow. Therefore, it's not possible for my patch to work magic to move buildings for signals. I hate that it is what it is, but physical circumstances aren't controllable.

pakman00: Are you using my patch? You mentioned a different one in the quote.
[HTC Incredible S] itandy:
Glad to know someone from HK with similar configurations. If you read my previous post, you'll know my phone acts erratically to these optimized gps.conf files.

Yes, I run my test in many places including Central, Wan Chai and even Sunny Bay. If I use stock gps.conf, I can get about 10 sats (a lock) in Sunny Bay, 3-4 sats (no lock) in Wan Chai and 6-7 sats near Central pier (a lock). But once I use any optimized gps.conf, I can either get no sats at all or some sats but all of them in the far north position. :confused:
[HTC Incredible S] crypted:
You could join our beta testers to test the next version to see if it fixes this.

Also, can you send me the gps.conf from stock for my review?