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[Motorola Droid X2] 4ktvs:
1) This is why:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU

2) I have been all over town trying to get better speeds and no dice.

3) If it was "maintenance" it's been taking it's time.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Again I ask

Have you tried calling vzw or contacting them on twitter (@vzwsupport) at all?

And just cuz u "went all around town" doesn't mean you switched towers.

Ur signature says you are on att(edit again ...now I see u have razr on vzw)

What's this got to do with vzw&Dx2?

I'm bout to turn into theredvendetta here

Lol j/k buddy! :p
[Motorola Droid X2] 4ktvs:
Oh yes I have called 8 times now. I am on my 2nd phone and sim card due to this.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I dunno, I've used over 5gb data in the past week alone(no tethering)

And over 5 last month and month before

Only got throttled on 3g

Since I've gotten my nexus I haven't seen anything slower than 8mbps(bad signal area)

I would keep calling and complaining and asking if they have had anyone go check the tower

Then after enough complaining they will send someone out to test and check it out, I had to do that when 3g kept dropping completely in my area when it should be here and they finally sent someone out and found out they needed to do something to the tower
[Motorola Droid X2] Travisdroidx2:
Lol damn Ash 5gb in a week :)

I know new toy on steroids
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Lol

4g is a helluva thing

Stream Netflix over 4g to a 720p screen? Yes please

Stream music constantly from google play? Yes please

download full roms (and LOTS of em) in less than two minutes? Yes please

Browse websites almost instantly? Yes please

download apps, after wiping data and flashing new rom, and be up and running again in bout ten minutes? Hell yes please

Games and YouTube over 4g & no lag? Hells to the yea!
[Motorola Droid X2] 4ktvs:
They are sending some one out. He said to call back on 4/11/2012 if it's still not fixed.

Well I did just tep fix it by reboot, but in less than 24Hours it will be doing it again.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Good stuff bro

if u are getting speeds like that on 4g I wouldn't give up pestering them until THEY fix the issue.

Who knows, u may end up being eligible for some type of account credit also

You pay THEM for a service

If they are failing to provide that service as advertised then you deserve support and/or compensation depending on the situation.

Just be stern yet polite and courteous but make it known that u are NOT satisfied with the services you pay A PREMIUM to use...again tho being polite and courteous will go a long way..

Keep us updated on the situation please.

It would be nice to know how this turns out.

Whether u are the unluckiest person in the world and got two Sims that messed this up somehow and same issue on separate devices and such or if it was an issue on the tower, or something messed up in their system

There are many things that could have happened to cause this, who knows, maybe other.people in area just aren't as keen as you, and after they fix the issue maybe u end up even faster than without said issue.

Also

Which phone exactly is it you have this issue with?

And are you rooted? Have rom installed? Any tweaks or mods? As much info as u can give even if u think it might not be connected to issue(well, except for ur dogs name or how much your cat weighs...those PROBABLY aren't needed lol :p )
[Motorola Droid X2] 4ktvs:
1) Droid razr ( no maxx)

2) 100% stock on the first one and on this one. No root,roms or mods of any kind.

I did not want to say this in the razr forum, but I think I need a rezound or a nexus, becuase all the non razr maxx's were having issues with data. ( Not as bad as me,but not good.)

All the phones in the store were fine, but the 1 gen Razrs were not. I don't know why this maxx did "ok". I will try and keep thing's uptodate.

Edit: I will be calling and asking for credit even if this gets fixed for good, becuase I have been dealing with so much crap with this and having to call tech over and over again.

Edit2: If it is the phone, then if they let me swap, could you tell me how you like your nexus?

Thanks

Now I am done for the night
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
Admittedly I haven't read this whole thread, so I may be missing something, but I think you may be in the wrong place for this post.

This thread as far as I can tell is just talking about the intentional data throttling done by Verizon when people aren't on an unlimited data plan and are also in the top 5% for their entire customer base when it comes to how much data is being used. Also it only lasts while you are actively in the top 5%, not if you just were at one point. Though I think it's lousy that they do it, I think you're looking in the wrong place for your issue (I'm also going by your recent posts, which talk about a possible hardware fault you may have). I'm not trying to sound like a ****, just saying you may find people with more knowledge on your issue in the proper thread.

Also, I hate you for your signature. I have Bright House (not sure if you're using that or Time Warner, they're one in the same though anyways) and I have the 40 megabits download package, and I only get about 10 on a good day. >.>
[Motorola Droid X2] 4ktvs:
I have the time Warner cable plan of 10 down load and 1 upload. After I had them come out and fix it, I got way better speed than what I am even paying for. I avg 20-25 down load and 1.6-1.8 upload.
[Motorola Droid X2] theredvendetta:
Ah I gotcha. Well my friend managed to get turbo (not sure what they call it at time warner) for free when he complained and threatened to do the thing that makes them poop their pants on the spot: switch to Verizon. Maybe they did that and you just weren't made aware of it. Either way that's cool, I may try and get some free better broadband, my torrents could use a little boost :P

Oh! That reminds me! Did you hear about Time Warner (and their subsidiaries like Bright House) signing an agreement to give all private data of their customers to the FBI if they are torrenting? Doesn't even matter whether they're stealing games and movies or doing legitimate, private things, like myself. Gonna switch to Verizon by July, when the policy goes into effect. Sigh.
[Motorola Droid X2] grnsl2:
You're like Neo in Matrix learning for the first time, I know Kung Fu! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMO3XmNXe4
[Motorola Droid X2] 4ktvs:
I would love to go to Verizon's FIOs, but they don't have it here. :(

If AT&T had an unlimited LTE data plan with tethering, I would do it right now or if the unlocked S3 has AT&T LTE bands and my plan worked with it.

Any way 600kbs in less than 28 hours after reboot and that was forgiving vs the norm.

Verizon your "throttling" sucks. I may be in a "testing" area for this or my phone is a POS. I am going to call them now.
[Motorola Droid X2] ilovesoad:
Unless we agreed to it when we signed up for our contracts. Lol
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
How, what are we going to say? We rooted our phones and found it?

I have the same folder. Updated 21 September 2011 at (Ironically) 4:20. The temp file in it was updated 1 January 1970(?) lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Jailbreaking an iPhone is legal and it would be the same for any android device with any carrier if brought to court.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Reheheally? So, we are just 'voiding' the warranty? ****, I am in to take the man(VZW) down for this! Free phones/service for life? :rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Yeah i have found a few files on my phone and all with that date and others with a date of 31 dec 1969.

Curious as to what the files in that folder do/are for.

---------- Post added at 04:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:55 PM ----------

I had the same idea when I learned that apple users won their case for jailbreak. Google the ruling its pretty interesting what the courts said was legal for us to do with our phones. I think it pretty much said WE own it WE can do what we want as long as it isn't stealing services and such.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
What I wonder is can you take the file from a stock GB build for the X2 and replace the one you currently have on your custom ROM or rooted phone and lock the file so it cannot be overwritten or written to. If this file does store such information Verizon would have no way of changing it.

EDIT: Found this. Worth a look!
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
What happened to ur original post? I have it in my gmail notification lol.

did it keep working? I was going to try that also later. Curious.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Well had a little boot loop going on. I will post when I can confirm working with reset. :)

I was a little too eager to post. I will update soon!
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
It will be awesome to see if this works! I am too close to the end of the month to even know the difference unless I intentionally try to download and entire GB worth of data for no reason lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Throttle Mod (Updated 10/14/11)

DISCLAIMER:

I cannot be held responsible for what YOU do to YOUR phone. With that said let's start!

(FYI: I use Root Explorer for this)

1. Preform a NAND Backup if you do not have one already :)

2. Make sure you are in WiFi or Airplane mode, or are not connected to 3G

3. Open root explorer and navigate to '/data/system/'

4. Find the 'throttle' folder and change the folder permissions to 'Owner:' 'Read' and 'Execute' only. (r-x------)

5. Open up the 'throttle' folder, you should have 2 files in here, one is 'temp' and the other is something like '-1226839461'. Backup these files to your SD card in case you have problems.

6. DELETE both files in the 'throttle' folder.

7. Reboot.

I am getting constant speeds of 2.31Mbps down and .7+ up. (On Eclipse 1.2RC1) Keep in mind this is only a theory for now, until I can get confirmation that it works for you guys also.
[Motorola Droid X2] slvrbul:
So where did you find out about this and how is it suppose to change anything !!!
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I located throttle folder and he decided to experiment. Thus hasn't been confirmed yet. I am trying it now. I also wonder how fast we could get this bad boy if this works AND we apply 3gturbocharger
[Motorola Droid X2] slvrbul:
I have applied this and tested before changing and after and I didn't notice a change in speed !!!
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Verizon some how uses the values in these files to identify you and throttle your data speeds, if the system can only read and execute these empty files, then my theory is Verizon can't throttle you.
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
We won't really know if it works (if any of us really are getting throttled) until at least a week or 2.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Not necessarily true, some of us like me are at the end of the month already(26th for me).
[Motorola Droid X2] Killz86:
if he is telling the truth about this. and this does work.

then he must be a good inside source for me, which means that he must know the samsung galaxy s II is coming to verizon. but we will see.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
He also could just be another guy with a slim background experience like me saying he found this folder just to blow smoke. If it works, you need to get this dude on xda!
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Why don't you actually try the mod and test for yourself?
[Motorola Droid X2] colonel187:
Welcome to net neutrality! All major broadband caries are now throttling and capping their service.
[Motorola Droid X2] lhkjohn:
Terrible! Personally, I haven't really felt the effects and I'm over 2gb per month usually. I'm going to start paying more attention to this.

Tapatalkin' from my Alien, Atrix'd out DROID X2!
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Me also. I have been up close to 5gb in my second month since I signed the contract. But my signal is TERRIBLE at my house so if I did get throttled I would never knew since my neighbors let me have their wifi passwords lol. Now my data usage hover around 2gb. I understand their reason for throttle on people who go nuts with it. But I see no reason for someone like me who has to FIGHT to get anything over 0.5mbps due to crap signal to get throttled. If I find out I am being throttled ill be mad as hell.

Someone said they notify u on your bill? What if we have paperless billing and autopay?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
So did I sign up for unlimited 'unless you go nuts' data? I don't think so. There is absolutely no reason for throttling anyone, if they paid for the service.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
True but when I read the contract before I signed it I DID see that it said they could throttle my data if I was in the top 5% of data users. I just wish they would give a TRUE average of what 95% of data users actually use.

Im just saying. If I get crap speeds because some people are "hogging" the network and not being throttled at all id be a bit mad. But on the other hand if im getting throttles cuz I go over 2gb ill be highly upset since I don't feel that is the top 5% of data users actually.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I thought Verizon had the 'best' network? I see where you're coming from though. Verizon (and all carriers for that matter) take a much too liberal approach to this.

And really if you were in the to 5% of their data users, I think they would have to actually show you proof. I'm calling shenanigans on this.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I pretty much said the EXACT sane thing to the rep when I signed up lol.

he said something like yeah but since we have the best network we have a LOT of users and blah blah blah. And doing this allows us to keep the best network available to all our users. So I said "yeah except for those ones being throttled right? He pretty much just talked circles after that lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Like I said before my month is over in 4 days and I just barely broke 1GB this month. I stay on WiFi in my house. When I was renovating my house and staying with my mom 45 minutes away commuting every day I used 4-5GB streaming music all the time in my car. Now though, Google Music lets me save the songs/playlists so I am not streaming so much and don't drive as often. I was talking about the rep from Verizon blowing smoke, not you blowing smoke, lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Gotcha. lawl.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Let me know if it works though! As long as you guys have no adverse reactions might try anyways. I wonder if updating to eclipse V.7 will replace the file when he updates?

Sent from my X2 running Eclipse V.6 ROM :)
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
It kind of is, in a weird way.

The reason Verizon didn't get the GSII is because they are getting the Galaxy Nexus next month. Wouldn't make sense to have a big event for a GSII (+marketing) only to have it overshadowed by the first device running ICS.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I've been on 3G exclusively for the past couple days with heavy data usage and I'm still getting 2MB+ download and .8MB+ upload. I haven't had any strange glitches happen either which has actually surprised me.

As for updating I'm not sure if the files would hold (I do a fresh install each time anyway and restore apps with Titanium Backup). The mod is easy enough though I'm just going to do it again in Eclipse .7 and keep tracking my results.
[Motorola Droid X2] homephysician:
Use widow no throttle on that

dual core snap dragon beast
[Motorola Droid X2] homephysician:
Wifi. Not window

dual core snap dragon beast
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
2MB? Damn! We apparently according to Wayne D (owner of WJD Designs, went to HS here with me) we are getting LTE next week. I have my upgrade in 2 weeks, so now I am stuck between a rock and a hard place lol. I will give this a shot for now though!

---------- Post added at 11:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

Well, my ping was significantly faster, but I am getting .987mbps down, and .946mbps up lol

Edit: Changed server and got a slightly slower ping(further away by about 20 miles though) 2.40mbps down, 1.21mbps up!
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
By 2mb I mean megabit :P
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
haha, I assumed, just giving you crap.
[Motorola Droid X2] rancifer:
I'll keep it short.

This absolutely works.

Where I live you cannot get high speed internet. I live in the country on the wrong side of the railroad tracks. Literally. The cable company won't cross the tracks so I can't get cable. DSL isn't an option either. Satellite speeds are slow so I can get just as fast speeds tethering to my droid.

I was using wifi tether, and recently did the hack that mike posted and have been using the hotspot app.

My speeds get real slow all the time, I can notice it I time out on webpages and cant stream for sh*t.

I did this earlier and Now with tethering with the hotspot app it's night and day.

Speeds are fast and load instantly.

This is amazing.

Thank you XDA community.

I'll report back if I notice any changes.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Awesome! Glad to see some 'real world' results. Out of curiosity, what kind of speeds are you getting, and how much data have you used this month?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Thanks for the feedback, keep us posted!
[Motorola Droid X2] kingsway8605:
I switched to sprint and filed a complaint with the better business bureau the day verizon announced their throttling.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Welp, I just got DirecTV 2 months ago so I have NFL Sunday Ticket. On my phone I have Sunday Ticket To-Go. Went from 1.3GB to 2.7GB streaming games non-stop with the volume off so I could watch a real game on my TV. Zero lag from what I saw, so, I believe this is a working fix! I put it on WiFi to compare speed afterwards, ran just as fluidly.
[Motorola Droid X2] garywojdan81:
Just implemented this fix & I see an immediate improvement in upload speeds.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
This is awesome! Thanks for the feedback.
[Motorola Droid X2] X0dus:
Wouldn't it seem a bit primitive, or archaic, to have to remote into someone's phone to throttle their data connection? I would guess they would have some sort of system set up on their end to throttle the connection. People noticing results by doing the mod is very intriguing. Going to dig around and see what I can find about those two files, and what those numbers mean.
[Motorola Droid X2] nitwit:
In the long run, if this solution Husker is trying doesn't work out, look at the post by sin8r here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=863923&page=83

Is the 'APN' he is referring to the same as the NAI? Maybe switch between @vzw3g.com to @vzw.com if you get throttled?
[Motorola Droid X2] X0dus:
Not familiar with this NAI you speak of, but what I read kept mentioning modification to the services.jar file to completely remove the possibility of VZW throttling someone. I couldn't find a straight answer to what these files pertain to or what the numbers mean. I wish I had a nandroid from pre 2.3 or 2.2 Froyo to see if these files existed before VZW announced the throttle on accts once they hit 2.5GB down. If so, this is all moot at that pt, I would think.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Since throttle is built into the Android OS itself it makes sense that carriers will use this feature. How they implement it is different I'm guessing. If they wanted to throttle you directly from their system I'm sure they could, but that would also single you out from other customers and thus violate your right to being treated fair and equal. Thus, legal action would take place from our side.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
It also serves to prove the point that this was pre-installed, meaning they EXPECT everyone to go over. They didn't just target a small percent of us. Also, it makes sense that it is on our end, otherwise the system would chase us as we hop between towers/networks, especially if you travel or commute a lot.
[Motorola Droid X2] X0dus:
lol They're not chasing anyone. If they want to throttle, or d/c our data service, all they have to do is click a button on our account. I've never had issues with data throttle on my end and I usually hit around 3-6gb of data use on a monthly basis. I'm trying to help with the mod L2 is testing. It would seem that vzw, and every other carriers, would have a more sure way of being able to utilize the throttling than simply putting a folder in data/system where anyone rooted can access and delete. Hence, my reading of needing to modify the services.jar which would require someone to unpack it, edit the needed lines, and repackage. Sure anyone can do this with the proper Google searching, but it's a more sure way rather than a simple folder and a couple files. FYI, from what I've read, most carriers have 'fixed' the APN method people were using to avoid the throttling.
[Motorola Droid X2] Xeno62277:
Actually, it makes sense. If you have a cable modem it is given a file at boot that tells it how fast it can upload and download. Which is why you have to reboot your modem if you get a higher bandwidth package.

Back in the docsys 1.0 days you could easily fool your modem into accepting a file from your computer, instead of the TFTP server on your providers side, that would tell your modem it had no cap.

Anyways, a file on the phone side sounds just like that.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Which makes it easy to place certain files on phones that have tiered packages/etc. I bet if you can get your hands on an older model device like an X1 you would easily be able to tell by sbf'ing back to 2.2, or even if the same file is on other manufacturers or other providers devices. It might be something built in that the providers required of Google. Just my thoughts,.
[Motorola Droid X2] INeedYourHelp:
I'm probably just being stupid, but I'm on 2.3.3 and there are no files in my /data directory (no system folder). Any ideas?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Are you rooted? What file explorer are you using? Are you sure you're not looking on your SD card?
[Motorola Droid X2] booked:
I erased the info in the 2 files in the throttle folder, rebooted and had no 3g connection just a flashing triangle. I deleted the empty files and erased the .bak off the backup files, rebooted my phone and got 3g back. hmmmmm guess that didnt work.
[Motorola Droid X2] INeedYourHelp:
It turns out I don't know how to use Astro file manager. EF file manager ftw!

Of course it took a couple of tries.

First attempt, accidentally deleted the two files.

Second attempt, instead of changing the two file permissions to read only, i changed the throttle folder permissions to read only.

Third attempt, successful!!!

And it works!!!! I was getting about .4mb (i think because i was usb tethering), and now I'm getting 1mb!

Thanks!!!!!!
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Right on happy to help.
[Motorola Droid X2] hapyman:
Can anyone verify that the folder structure is the same in 2.3.4? I've searched and cannot find throttle. Thanks

Sorry should've said I am running eclipse and searched with both es file explorer and astro.
[Motorola Droid X2] booked:
Im running eclipse v1.0 and found it in the same place. but I found it with root explorer.
[Motorola Droid X2] donlad:
In ES File Explorer, click the hardware menu button and go to Settings, and checkmark "Root Explorer" and give it superuser rights, and then checkmark "Mount File System" and then go look for the files/folders.
[Motorola Droid X2] ferg40:
Not sure if it's been said but I work technical support at verizon and this block is on the account level. Not on the phone. Lol
[Motorola Droid X2] INeedYourHelp:
i experienced immediate download speed increase, so it does something.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I'll take your 'Lol' and raise you...

:D
[Motorola Droid X2] donlad:
I just tried this on Eclipse 1.0 and did not see any speed increase.

Measured speed before and after change with Ookla's Speed Test app.

After I saw changes did not increase speed, I went to check /data/system/throttle and it's files to make sure they're all the correct permissions, and they are.

EDIT: I don't know if it's important or not, but I'm on Verizon's unlimited data for $30 and I never go above 1.5GB/month usage.