yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt General] XRSTOY1:
I'm not sure if this means anything but Last Tue I had a Reb send me out a new TB.. Told 2 days. Well it didn't show up by Fri I texted him and he said that my order had errored out and he wasn't in the next day to see it. Ok fine he set it up and told me now 5 days???? My first thought is that they are holding it back for a reason. My first thought was they want to wait till gingerbread rolls out before I get it? Maybe it will come with GB already installed wich would suck because I want to root it again right away. Just seemed weird that all of a sudden it takes 5 days to get a replacement.:confused:
[Thunderbolt General] Runn3rLogic:
do want.HTC has GOT to deliver...
[Thunderbolt General] dan0matic:
I just got a replacement TB, and it took 5 days as well. Not because of any upgrade coming to the phone though. VZW is now using USPS to ship stuff. I'm about done with HTC and this phone. I've had about 5 now and all seem to come up with a serious issue. I'm not thinking GB is going to save this phone...

Dan
[Thunderbolt General] julienjeff:
rooting etc

I have a thunderbolt and was totally lied to- I was not informed about the random txing to people you didnt mean to- sent a message to my daughter and it went to my boss while I was working! It also constantly reboots since the july update. I am afraid to root as I want to know I can get updates later on. If I root to get GB will that also update my htc sense? I know I sound like a moron..I am just frustrated and don't know where to go..I want what I paid for any anyone who will help me will be rewarded or supported if you have a site I can contribute to! Right now I have everything stock and july "update" ha..what a laugh!

Thanks!!

Julie:confused:
[Thunderbolt General] rctreadaway:
To fix your random texts download handcent texting from the market. Probably spelled wrong but it corrects the randoms texting. Been using it for months now with no problems
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
I haven't checked too closely but until users here or other sites actually receive the update notification (someone will take a picture of the screen !), don't believe it 'til you see it. :p
[Thunderbolt General] wiredmonkey:
The only even-close-to-official announcement was on HTC's Facebook and Twitter accounts stating that the GB update for the TB was due in September.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but no, a possible update is NOT the reason for your delayed shipment. Your replacement phone is sitting packaged up in a sealed box with whatever s/w release it has and that ain't changing. What about the thousands of TBolts sitting in VZW's warehouse or the thousands sitting in VZW stores all across the country ? Are they going to update those ? Nope.... If an update comes out, those phones with "old" s/w will update shortly after they're activated (could be hours or days or ??).
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
I use Go SMS. Both that and handcent work really well. Must be a bug with htc messaging.
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Rooting and install custom Rom fixed my reboot problem has not happened once since root. Don't be scared it will fix it. Also yes it will update your sense I am at 3.0 which thunderbolt will not see ota. Soon we will see 3.5 port : )

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] Powell730:
I'm running sense 3.5.. And in case you want the screens to prove it :)
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
Man this **** not coming this phone is dead to htc and vzw. Really hope we get a nexus phone I will not be buying another android phone unless its nexus
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
If I had a dollar for every time I heard that about any given phone at the time...

I know of phones not much older than the Thunderbolt that are just now getting their FROYO, as leaks.
[Thunderbolt General] Dirt_Mcgirt:
how!!!!! How are you!!!
[Thunderbolt General] Powell730:
Thanks to the man above you and his team..

Idk if I'm allowed to give it out on here but www.teambamf.net

It's in its very early stages and the main things that don't when are wifi, Bluetooth, and mms.. However mms works if you use the handcent server. It runs better than any rom I've ran on my phone and it's still very very green...
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
You took the words out of my mouth ! :D
[Thunderbolt General] Schedonnardus:
I'm getting a new tbolt this week, and Verizon gave me a FedEx tracking number.
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
I'd rather eat broken glass and wash it down with Draino than run a straight Android ROM. Sorry, but Android is an ugly son of a ***** that NEEDS some sort of eye candy and appealing UI, VERY unlike iOS or even BBOS in many ways. That said, you're seriously impatient and displaying no understanding of firmware development. You know who has just as much a hand in firmware developent as HTC? Qualcomm. Qualcomm has a LOT more to do with it than Verizon. They're the guys that do the radios and a good bit of the work on the ROMs as well. And Qualcomm is going to put newer projects on the front burner way before some device that's been out 6 or 7 months. I guess your attitude rubs me the wrong way because it's the same snotty attitude that pissed off a lot of devs way back. Just chill out. IT'S COMING!
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
so it looks nice, but is functionally crippled...

Think I'll wait a bit and stick with shell 3d.
[Thunderbolt General] julienjeff:
getting excited now

you guys are helping me understand so much!! thank you thank you!! Do you have a link where I can get the 3.0 sense, GB and root all in the right order? I am fed up to here~ with verizon..this is my first smartphone and so happy I found all the support here..other forums say you guys don't help..so not true!!
[Thunderbolt General] Mustang302LX:
It's crippled because it's a preview just to show what's in the pipeline. Give it time and it will be awesome I'm sure. BAMF is the only reason I can even stand Sense 3.0.
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Go to thunderbolt Q&A section and it will tell you the root options I suggest going with revolutionary since it is more user friendly to someone who does not know ADB (don't ask). I have never used it so follow all directions on that site having to do with the Thunderbolt. You will have to install Superuser, busybox, and flash a root obtaining RUU after gaining S-off so pay attention to details in Q&A and site itself. After you got root come back to XDA and go to development section instead of general and go with Synergy which is a GB & Sense 3.0 ROM combo. Instructions how to install Rom are in Q&A and in Synergy forum do not go into development section and ask how to install you will be killed.

other sites you will find ROMS are rootzwiki.com teambamf.net themikmik.com th3oryrom.com all offer GB and sense like, mix or full sense 3.0 ROMS

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] Mustang302LX:
If you root, which you should, I'd STRONGLY recommend BAMF Forever 1.0.6. I dislike Sense and Sense 3.0 and this ROM made me a believer of Sense again. Granted I'm back on CM7 but I personally like AOSP more.
[Thunderbolt General] julienjeff:
before I read this I got rooted (yay me) revolutionary style- downloaded rom manager from market- was so overwhelmed just picked "thunderstick" and now all my phone does is slash a light across screen with a queen card every so often- the queen of spades winks at me then back again- Did I destroy my phone?? How do I make it stop?? please help and I will stop playing with the big kids- I promise!
[Thunderbolt General] RevosFTS:
I would try pulling your battery then hold volume down and power at the same time to enter hboot(white screen with some cryptic numbers and info on top) choose the option to boot into recovery. Wipe data and dalvik cache then try to either reflash your thunderstick or flash a backup(if you made one.) I never use rom manager I always use the cwm recovery. Good luck!

Sent from my Bolt running LTB 3.0!
[Thunderbolt General] julienjeff:
I did just what you said and still same thing- Can I just wipe the entire phone so it will just work again? I am so sorry for being such a pita-tell me to go away if you want!
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
First thing is go to computer and download synergy Rom go with one I know works. Take out your battery and SD card, hook up your SD card to computer and place the synergy zip onto root of SD card outside all folders and rename it PG05IMG.zip if you are doing this in windows just name it PG05IMG since windows hides the .zip part. now put back in SD card put back in battery and hold volume down till you get to hboot screen select fast boot. When it ask you to install upgrade press volume up and it will install synergy.

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Once you get a new Rom running plug in your phone deleted the Rom file or move to folder as handy backup and download a new radio since you are without a doubt without signal at this point. So with WiFi or home computer go to XDA development section and into synergy folder and locate radios MR 2 or 2.5 will work for now. Once again name it PG05IMG.zip or in windows PG05IMG. Shutdown phone and power back on holding volume down and fastboot and upgrade yes. And reboot. You should now have a fully working ROM

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
do you get paid to recommend synergy? You act like it is the only one worth using these days.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
dont have a snotty attitude chief, just my opinion.
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
I wanted to tell him or anyone something that I know works and works well. If you read the first post I offered him a number of sites to look for ROMS including BAMF, th3ory, Mikmik, but told him one that i like right now that runs well.

I would not recommend a steakhouse I have never been to or a Rom i never loaded but I did give him options. I can provide him a link to 2.11 leak and rooted GB if you would like.

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
I actually like the rooted/ debloated 2.11 leak. Doesn't seem any slower than the 2.11 customs I have tried.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
you tell him not to have a snotty attitude, but call him chief? lol
[Thunderbolt General] mariekesuzanne:
...this is my first Android and I've had it since release day. As soon as I was gonna finally root / and start looking for a rom, the Aug GB leaks started coming and I flashed them. I REALLY wanna root, but w the official gb coming (I'm pretty sure this week), should I wait for it? (I'm still gonna root afterwards and go w a custom rom) I have a few issues w this last leak that I really don't wanna deal w if not necessary.

sent from a Thunderbolt that wishes it didn't have a dumm blonde pushing it's buttons
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Why are you asking me? If you are still going to root why wait? You can always flash ota GB when it comes out.

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] mariekesuzanne:
Well you seemed like you were helpful enough. That was pretty much my question... Will rooting make it a lot more difficult to flash the ota? (I'm already running the last leak, unrooted so gonna have to flash the ota anyway when it comes out)

sent from a Thunderbolt that wishes it didn't have a dumm blonde™ pushing it's buttons
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Flashing ota while rooted is just as easy as flashing it unrooted. Only you get to take out all the bloatware HTC and Verizon puts in it.

Just make sure you flash rooted ota once it hits, developers will add in busy box and super users so you still have root.

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Wonder what ever became of dude who didn't follow my directions LOL.

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] scottthreet32:
hmmm inc2 just got 2.3.4 gb can't tell much of a difference.

Starting to feel like donkey with a carrot on stick stuck to top of head

Carrot being gingerbread with dates that come and go and nothing
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
First off, waiting for an OTA is pretty much never a good idea. It's a total gamble what you're going to get and some dev will have it sorted out very soon after it's release.

Second, the OTA isn't the Holy Grail. It's just another RUU, one that Verizon, HTC, and Qualcomm felt was up to snuff... enough. Because as we all know, OTAs aren't always stable or better than something else already out there. From all appearances, the GB OTA will be VERY similar to the 2.11 RUU, as that's virtually a completed work sans a few glitches like vvm (and why that would be an issue to anyone, I don't know since they charge you for what you can get for free somewhere else ::Google Voice::). To me, when someone complains that GB is the stick in front of the donkey, it sounds goofy. It sounds like you're deciding to chase a carrot on a stick rather than turn to your right and eat from the huge trough full of them. No OTA will be as fast or smooth as a ROM like BAMF Forever.

Some of your sound ridiculously impatient. I kinda want to tell you to grow up and act like an adult. Sometimes I forget I'm talking to adults because some of the comments here strike me as something my 8 year old daughter would say.
[Thunderbolt General] mariekesuzanne:
Hey, thx for the final push. I rooted, loaded & running th3ory shifts3ns3 and really don't give a fck abt the ota now. :D
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Another one bites the dust, welcome.

Shift is updated to 1.5 on his site WWW.th3oryrom.com

"If i helped you please thank me"
[Thunderbolt General] mariekesuzanne:
I quickly discovered that BAMF was more my thing... I'm in love w my phone again :) much thx, though... I still frequent xda to learn how to pimp it out *more*. I had no idea how crappy stock is (even stability-wise) than custom roms... These developers are sooo good. Haven't had one thing "go wrong" during my whole learning to root/flash/etc process. Thx again
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdulay8:
I have a G2 rooted running CM7 RC1, but since I rooted back in January I have switched from an 8gb to a 16gb to a 32gb microSD card, and lately it has been acting up (drops calls, loses wifi, etc) so I wanted to start over with a clean slate with the latest CM ROM, kinda like reformatting a PC and starting fresh with a new OS. what would be the best way to do this? thanks in advance
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
Download the latest nightly of CM7: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=vision and put on the root of your SDcard.

1) Enter recovery

2) Wipe data/factory reset (or use a superwipe+ .zip if you want a more "thorough" wipe).

3) Install zip from SDcard > Choose zip > CM7nightly.zip

4) Reboot System

5) Enter your gmail account, etc. get to the homescreen.

6) Fix permissions in ROM manager, reboot again.

And there's your clean slate. If you want to afterwards, you could always format your SDcard too.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ditamae:
I would highly recommend the SuperwipeG2+ if you want a clean slate, so to speak. I had success using it to fix a GPS issue. Of course, everything Martonikaj said was exactly right - but I would definitely suggest the Superwipe tool. You simply flash from recovery rather than using the CWM factory reset option. You can find the file here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044992&page=4
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdulay8:
thanks for your replies. ive followed your steps to a T, flashed superwipe, latest cm7, google apps, reboot, fix permissions, sync my google account... but now i have more issues. i cant get tmobile wifi calling to connect, which is a major issue for me because i dont have cell reception in my house. the wifi calling app was a major reason i got the g2 in the first place. i figured it wasnt a clean install so i reflashed cm7 but get the same problem. also, my battery lasted 7 hours before dying with little use. before it died i checked and saw that cell standby had taken almost 80% of my battery use while it was just sitting untouched.

i searched these forums and there isnt much in terms of help for fixing the wifi calling app, so can anyone please help me out? i really like CM for its speed but these are issues that will force me to try a sense ROM. thanks in advance
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ditamae:
Perhaps your build.prop needs to be configured to model: T-Mobile G2 instead of HTC Vision. I don't recall the way it's set in plain CM7. I know I had to alter it to get the T-Mobile My Account working properly.... unfortunately I don't use the Wifi Calling app so I can't be of much help in this department. I actually removed it all together.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ditamae:
So, two things. First this battery drain... I would give it some time. Battery drain is always worse right after a flash. You might consider using the calibration app by marosige. It's free on the Market. Or you could wipe battery stats from recovery, but the application is super handy. Battery should improve with time. Mine has been excellent with all CM ROMS - after a calibration and a little time.

And while I could be totally wrong about the build.prop and the Wifi Calling app, you should check it. Using your file manager (Root Explorer or ES File Explorer, to name a few), navigate to /system folder and then find the build.prop, open it as a text document and check the lines:

ro.product.model=HTC Vision

ro.product.brand=vision

If this is what you see (above), try changing it to this:

ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2

ro.product.brand=tmobile

I've had to do this a few times in order to get T-mobile apps like My Device to work. I'd hate to see you abandon CM because of the Wifi Calling app...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
T-mobile WiFi calling works fine for me on both CM7 and MIUI with a build.prop indicating HTC Vision and not T-mobile G2.

What exact error are you getting when trying to run it? Or whats happening?

As far as battery life, it will improve over time as the previous poster stated, but 7hours 100% to 0% seems a bit off unless there's a ton of heavy use.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdulay8:
I think I have an entirely different problem altogether. The reason my battery life was so bad was because it was searching for a network the entire time, and I can't connect to Wifi calling because T-Mobile doesn't recognize my phone. When selecting T-Mobile under network operators I get "Your SIM card does not allow a connection to this network" and when I try Wifi calling I get "You are currently not registered with the T-Mobile network. Would you like to register to enable Wifi calling?" and after selecting register I get "W005.4 T-Mobile Network Error"

I'm in over my head. I've tried rewipe data/cache, superwipe, reflash and battery/sim pull, so I guess my next course of action is to head to T-mobile and maybe ask for a new sim card?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ditamae:
Looking back at your first post, this seems to be an extension of the same issue which inspired you to wipe and flash another ROM. I don't know if it's a radio thing, or a SIM card thing... which radio are you using, btw? Have you flashed any radios? If not, yes, I would definitely go and get a new SIM card. It could have just been going bad and now it's dead. You're not in over your head... yet. ;) Try the new SIM card and see what happens.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdulay8:
yup it was the sim card... got a new one from the T-mo store and activated it and my phone is back online! had the same one since 2001 so it wasnt surprising. have never flashed a new radio so i knew that couldnt be it. thanks for your help, i think i got it from here :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ditamae:
Glad you got it sorted out. I can't believe you've used the same SIM from 2001. Crazy... ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
Glad you got it figured out. I definitely wouldn't trust a SIM to hold its integrity and work properly 10 years after you got it lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fatboypup:
any get it working I've tried spirit radio with no luck since root ..... why didnt they include and app if it has the chip :mad:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
no antenna? They might not have thought it was an important feature and didn't give it an antenna (like HTC), and not had the insight to let the headphones act as an antenna (unlike HTC).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] s_kates81:
Is it just me? The screen is just a fingerprint magnet, even a slight use will have fingerprints all over, looks so bad, need to constantly clean up the screen. And same goes for the rear of the tab as well. How you guys manage with this problem?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] MattSkeet:
Just wipe the screen here and than... Its glass what do you expect? Even iPad has this problem, although you don't see this at the beginning due to Apple's magic and wizardry messing up with your brain and perception...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jonnyg1097:
I deal with it by getting a screen protector. It's a good way to get rid of the prints as well as protect your screen from any scratches.

I also got a vinyl backing for my tab to stop the prints from showing up on there too.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] s_kates81:
Usually aren't screen protectors are even worse finger print magnets?

Can you tell more about the vinyl backing?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] seh6183:
The samsung galaxy tablet has a fingerprint resistant coating. If you think this is bad you should try any of the other tablets. They get so smudgy you cant even see through the screens.

The google i/o tab does not have ths coating. The only other tablet i know of that has it is the ipad.

Putting a screen protector over a fingerprint resistant screen is a huge waste of technology in my opinion. Not only are you ruining the screens ability to prevent smudging, but you are also affecting the display quality.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] seltaeb:
Yes, the screen does get a tad messy. A bit more than my iPads, definitely. However, I can't really notice the smudges unless the screen is completely off, so it doesn't bother me much.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ewans:
Yeah, you notice it with the screen off but not when it's in use, so it doesn't really bother me.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Welcome to the world of touchscreens.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pcrov:
Yeah, it drives me nuts. I deal with it by cursing a lot and taking out my frustrations on other people.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] seh6183:
So your galaxy tab which has the same glass by the same manufacture with the same oleophobic coating, is getting more smudges than your apple product?

Maybe youre eating french fries when using your 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] seltaeb:
Yes, they were extra careful with the iPad orders and just did a rush job with the Samsungs coz they figured like most other stuff the Android crowd will paint it on themselves if its not included by the manufacturer / Google.

No, but you made me feel hungry now.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] fraz82:
the tab 10.1, and the ipad2 do not have the same glass or the same oleophobic coating, and definitely not by the same manufacturer either.

tab 10.1 uses gorilla glass by corning, with their own type of smudge 'resistant' coating.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] 06ms6:
Par for the course with touchscreens. If it is a huge bother you can get an anti-glare screen protector but those mute the colors and I really dislike them (and screen protectors in general).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] UKseagull:
I wash my hands a lot more often since owning touch screen devices. :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] seh6183:
Lol great first post. Apple was the first to start using gorilla glass with their iphone 4. It IS the same glass and IS the same oleophobic coating, all, made by corning.