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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Why would you? For all they know you are legitimately roaming cuz their signal sucks. That would make you a liability. If Sprint wants my phone back cuz their coverage blows I want my $200 back.

Short answer: no
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hermeticist:
Are they making you pay the early contract termination fee?

Sounds like a get out of jail free card.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hermeticist:
What other networks will our phones work on? Any pay as you go with unlimited internet?

Will the prl software allow us to change to other carriers besides verizon?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I've heard rumors of Boost, Virgin, Cricket, MetroPCS may be only a number swap and settings changes away...

...but I think those are only rumors, this isn't the site to ask on anyway.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kasper19:
Did anyone's MSL change after changing their PRL? Apparently after uploading 11115.prl, my MSL isn't the same as it was before uploading it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lesbox:
Anyone go into Hands Free Activation after changing their PRL? I just did it, and am getting it, but the phone is not successfully activating. It still seems to work fine, but I have a persistent notification for Hands Free Activation. Any suggestions? If I go to PRL it does show the correct 11115 version.

Made sure to go back in to ##8788# and change back to AP after the update - tried through Hands Free Activation, and Settings>About>System Updates>Update Profile and it wont activate either way. Thought maybe I should try to go back to the original PRL but it will not update through the phone system menu either.

Running Lost Kernel, & Starburst Rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Just to clarify, changing your PRL isn't going to let you get this phone activated on other networks.

Thats odd, it shouldn't have changed.

Shouldn't you already be activated?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lesbox:
Yeah, it's totally activated & everything is working fine, but HFactivation keeps coming up. It's like the phone doesn't realize it's already activated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Vega:
The thing is is that other people are able to use it. The prl that is. Any way to get texts to work if you are having trouble. anybody?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Flash back old prl, do activation, reflash 11115

try updating profile
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bvzxa3:
Might try this. We had issues with mt 2 Epic 4G's and the EG4t not getting any service. Two Satrurdays in a row I got no service. Phones would roam but being a Sprint ----> Verizon ----. back to Sprint I remember how bad roaming was years ago on Sprint so I don't roam.

But I called Sprint out and found that the sprint towers were only at 25% and 27% instead of the 99%. Once they fixed the issue I get 1.2 mp down, which is fine by me.

See this is good for those in shoddy areas with Sprint. Seeing how we are in Raleigh, we have a lot of towers...and should have good coverage on 3G and 4G.

People no matter how you trick the game, be careful with roaming...Sprint may be slow but the big two are squeezing the life out of people with the 2GB cap. Verizon wanted to kick me off when I was still under the unlimited data when I had Thunderbolts and Droid X's on my plan...and a Fascinate (why??)

Getting the MSL is easy...connectbot will do it for ya.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alexander r:
I can't find prl file when browsing any help on where file is located?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I'm well aware of this. However there is a very straightforward method to activate Sprint phones on the above mentioned "networks" (all Sprint white-label as far as I know)... But... It's a legal grey area thus not fit for discussion on XDA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I think its in settings/about phone/status
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
I knew you knew this lol not sure if it was clear to others.

I am of the opinion that its your phone so do whatever you want with it. As long as that is also true for the donor phone then...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I agree as im sure the administrators do as well, but out of respect of the sites policy and a desire to prevent said administrators getting hassled I try to be informative while saying the least necessary regarding this topic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] evohog:
after a couple of hours trying to figure out why it wasnt recognizing my phone, what you suggested got me going. thanks for the info
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Guide updated:

added MSL info

info about consequences of roaming

samsung radio bug

Few formatting changes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chunology:
Great guide. Very thorough. Running a custom PRL now :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Good job on the guide!

The voice limit according to ToS is 50% up to max of 800, as opposed to straight up 50% of total minutes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DizDroid:
Has anyone who flashed the .00001 PRL having trouble connecting with data? I can place phone calls just fine, but data is a no go.

Any ideas?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hermeticist:
Using 11115 when I switched to roaming I was only getting 1x data speeds (starburst 1.9)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
when i speed test after using a custom prl i connect to witcha,ws and im in SF california is that normal?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
I never had a problem but I only tested that PRL a few times. Does verizon have data coverage in your area?

3G isn't everywhere

???
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DizDroid:
Yes, my Droid X sitting right next to it has never had an issue. 3g speeds are way better too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
its possible the 00001 prl was made before changes were made to towers in your area.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] alamn8r:
i custom changed my prl to 11115 and i've been using the internet but when i sign into my sprint account it won't show a decrease nor a increase in any of my data usages... anyone experiencing the same ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
are you roaming while using the internet?

If so it takes time for the other provider to tell sprint you've used their data, usually around a day for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dulanic:
I have tried 00001, 01337, and 31337 and every one of them still connects me to sprint towers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] alamn8r:
it doesn't say i'm roaming. if i go to my settings and press status it says network: sprint. and it doesn't give me a roaming sign or warning or anything..?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boolboo:
Is going into android settings and simply updating PRL the correct method to get back to a stock PRL?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Yes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] alamn8r:
so after i upload the custom prl and i do a reboot and power off my phone and then turn it back on, the speed goes down TREMENDOUSLY. but the prl still says 11115. is anyone experiencing the same thing ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
So has anyone that is roaming on verizon gotten a letter from Sprint?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lamboh:
i got one last month or the one before, been on 00001 for a few months...for october i am at 2gb of data roaming and 0kb of sprint 3g. Im waiting til they kick me so i can bounce on over to verizon. What use is an unlimited data plan in which you can barely get 500-600 kbits/sec on a good day. (the norm for me is around 100-200 kbits per sec)...not too mention the developement for the EPIC 4g touch is nil, compared to other galaxy sII's or any other top android phones out there. im tired of paying EXTRA so sprint can upgrade their network, i've been doing that since the OG evo came out, NEVER EVER SEEN any 4g on any of my 4 4g phones, and always have gotten crappy data speeds unless prl'ed to 00001. yea sprint is the cheapest around, and has unlimited, but for someone like me, i'd rather cough up the extra 15-20 bucks a month to have verizon.

sprint lost me as a customer when they took away the yearly upgrades, sprint premier perks, and started charging out the wazzoo for everything, at least that was worth the crappy data network, (of coursed prl'd to 00001)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boolboo:
In sticking with these custom PRLs, does this mean that we miss out on changes to Sprint towers and such? I like the ability to roam on verizon, but I want to be up to date with SPrint's latest PRL configs. Is someone updating the custom PRLs or am I missing something here?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
I did the prl mod and I've been complaining to Sprint but they don't seem to care and I've used like 4gb of 3g roaming
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DizDroid:
Use Net Monitor free from the Market. It will tell you which service you are currently using.

How are you going out about complaining about it? Are you tipping your hand to early? IE, getting frustrated?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boolboo:
Any insight on this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DizDroid:
Yes running a custom PRL means you will be missing out on the most current Sprint PRL changes. At this point to my knowledge their is no one updating custom PRL's for us to use.

Some of the PRL's are corporate Sprint, meaning, to my understanding that you use Sprint's service when and where you can. But when you run into a roaming situation it allows 3G data roaming.

That's all I got, and I could possibly be wrong.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boolboo:
Thanks. Ive been using the x115 with roam control this morning, and its awesome. Im glad I followed this tutorial...it would also be cool to see some updates somehow. I understand that may be impossible.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
@dizdroid

Well I've had already been complaining about how horrible my service was at my new place and then since I did the prl mod I started complaining and acting frustrated about the roaming.

I'm gonna wait though and start complaining again. Its funny because the people I've talked seem to not care of all the 3g roaming i've been doing
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I recently talked to someone and he reviewed my account and said that I have not been roaming...lol. Since the snowstorm took out half of the states' power we have had no Sprint towers alive for 20 miles around here. Everybody I know on Sprint is roaming like the dickens.

If I get booted for 00001.PRL? Whatever, Verizon here I come. If I don't get booted for 00001.PRL? Whatever, Verizon here I stay, lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iamisaac:
?

"Voice roaming > 50% of minutes used"

So if I use 10 minutes of phone time, and 6 of those are on verizon's network then I may get kicked?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
Hahaha good one.

Is using roamcontral the same as being on the 00001 prl? Cause if that's the case I want to be able to switch to sprint when I can use 4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boolboo:
Actually, I was pulling 3G over roaming using the x115 PRL, now I can only get 1x. Nothing has changed...what could have happened?

---------- Post added at 06:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:59 PM ----------

Yes, from what I understand this is correct.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
Oh alright thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I've never used roam control but I would imagine it forces roaming, derp. But if it does it with 60681.PRL, or whatever Sprint PRL you are on, you will only roam at a lowly 1x. That is painful. With 00001.PRL you roam at full 3G speed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Correct 11115 allows 3G data roaming as long as 3G is available (can't give it to you if its not there...) and on samsung phones you can't roam on the PCS band. So 3G needs to be present on the cellular band and your good.

11115 is an official sprint PRL so it gets updated, it used to be 11114.

Not very likely, the goal of kicking people is to keep sprint from spending more money on you than you cost them. Therefore they use an algorithm to flag accounts for this type of review. If sprint makes quite a bit of money off you then you can probably get away with more roaming. If you are on a heavilly discounted account, such as SERO or have a corperate discount, only one line etc, the likelihood of you getting flagged is more likely. Regardless 6 minutes of roaming isn't going to flag you.

No they aren't the same, but I think you can still roam on voice while being on 4G data.

With 00001 PRL when your phone doesn't appear to be roaming (IE no triangle) you still actually are roaming since the PRL is a modified verizon PRL

A multitude of things, the tower you got 3G from could be down, they could've switched the frequency to the PCS band which we can't roam on thanks to samsung, some bug could've occurred on your radio, sprint could've pushed a PRL update to your phone and your not actually on 11115 anymore etc etc

What he said.

But your roaming when you don't have yellow triangle, when you do have yellow triangle you could possibly be on a sprint tower.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Docarut:
I hear you but if you go with Verizon they no longer have unlimited. If you go over whatever level you select will be overage charge. They do have different plans though, right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
For $74.99 you get unlimited voice and 250 txts (I use gvoice anyway, would just be for MMS) at the 2GB cap. $20 more gets you a 5GB cap. $10 per 1gb over your cap.

I'm still considering it pretty seriously. All said and done it would be the same price or a few cents cheaper for the 2GB plan, though I would blast past that. I think I could cope with the 5gb plan, but, I'd have to cut off my streaming to a minimum and feel it out. I'd also switch my browser to 100% Opera Mobile with images set to low-quality. Do that for a few months, feel it out from there.

Or Sprint doesn't care that I'm roaming hardcore and I'm happy until they fix their god forsaken network.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] atomb:
Is there a way to change the threshold of when the phone switches to roaming? I would like it to jump to roaming instead of struggling with a very weak signal.

Thanks for the easy how to, it's working great on 11115!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
I wish there was if you find one let me know

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] trezegol:
the best way to get your msl just get qpst .366 latest version connect s2 on diag mode and just read with qpst will ask you for spc code leave it at 000000 and it will read and will give you your msl code i do this every day im sure it works hope it helps:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I believe there is a bug on the Epic Touch where it gets into a mode where it'll only connect 1x on roaming. I've noticed in this mode the AN-AAA will say "Fail". At first, I thought it was some account problem, but then after a bunch of reboots it worked again which got me curious and I started looking out for it. Next time I went into this mode, I took a different phone, confirmed it was talking to the same tower id and band, and it had no problems with connecting 3G/EV, but Epic Touch would only connect 1x to same tower id and band + it was saying AN-AAA Fail when the other phone did not. Again after a couple of reboots, it came back.

I don't rule out the possibility AN-AAA Fail is a red herring. I can connect to 3G/EV on Sprint whether it says Fail or Pass. I can connect to 3G/EV Roaming when it says Pass. I can never get 3G/EV roaming when it says Fail. After reboots AN-AAA can go from saying Pass to Fail (and back to Pass) both for Sprint and for Roaming. I can get 3G/EV roaming to work with no other changes on the phone other than playing with roaming settings and rebooting a couple of times.

My hypothesis is under certain situations for roaming, it is not loading the proper authentication credentials, despite them being provisioned properly. I remember someone posted a list of problems they were working on with the firmware update and one of them was to reload network settings on loss of signal or something like that.

It can also get confusing because the notification bar will always say 3G (be design) whether you are connected 1x or EV. The way I tell which is to go into ##DEBUG# and look at the Data Status. It will reliably tell you whether you are connected 1x or EV.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sewhuy:
How does contract termination due to excessive roaming effect family plans? Will Sprint terminate just that line or the primary account owner as well?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone know?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jjjjayd13:
Not able to update PRL.

I have tried various ROMs, could there be something that is blocking my phone from being 'seen' by computer?

Is there another 'way' to update PRL? ie odin...ect...:mad:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] magoo5289:
Improper driver install or a bad cable are about the only things I can think of that would block it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jjjjayd13:
I have used same cable to install other ROMs and updates which to me shows that both cable and drivers work properly!

Any other suggestions? ie how to remove drivers and where to fine latest drivers.

TIA,

jjjjayd13, ;(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
remove drivers via device manager

install new ones by installing kies
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boolboo:
Mine started utilizing 3G again and works perfectly. Too random for me to make any conclusions/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] n01un0:
I went through this thread again and may have missed this but can anyone who actually received a letter confirm that you didn't have to pay the ETF?.........

Of course, if they were terminated, they are probably no longer watching this thread and can not help me confirm, lol. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lamboh:
theres a number that youre supposed to call on the letter. i called and can confirm that they will let you port your number to another carrier and WAIVE the ETF. I specifically asked this and have had my account noted for this. So when the the Galaxy nexus comes out (hopefully in a few days) i'll be switching to verizon . Verizon is doing a double your data deal, in which you buy 2gb of data and they give you 4. hopefully the promo is still good when the galaxy nexus is out.

ps , i have data roamed anywhere from 2gb-6gb data in the last 4-5 months.

1-866-957-6899 here's the number to sprint data roaming dept. they had no problem with me porting my number and waiving etf
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rfeagan:
So I wonder if you can call this number without receiving the letter? Ie, "I notice I've been roaming a lot & would like to switch carriers, without ETF of course." Chances?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] n01un0:
Ok, so I followed the instructions and I tried the 11115 PRL.

When I go to my back porch where I normally don't get a signal (this phone only :mad:), I still don't get any difference using this PRL. I checked to confirm that 11115 is listed as PRL in status and it is.

I then installed the roam control app and that didn't do anything either even if I choose roam only (it didn't roam at all). Reception is still -106 or so.

What am I missing?

Background info: My phone is stock (other than the automated root sfhub created and only did option A)

I would like to roam while at home because I don't get much of a signal (even with an AirRave) but I know that Verizon reception is good here from tests with other phones.

I am just wondering if my phone has issues itself because even when bars drop completely out to -107 or worse, it rarely ever switches to roaming anyway (and yes, roaming settings are enabled).

Any suggestions?

I really didn't want to use the 000001 PRL that is permanent roaming (unless I decide I want out of contract, lol). If I could just auto roam when I hit worse than -100, life would be great..........then again, if this thing would just get the same reception as my Hero I would be content.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
-106dBm/0 bars actually isn't "no signal" The phone won't "roam" (on the automatic setting) unless it truly gets no signal.

Some later versions of Roam Control have been known to mess up the license check and cause it to not work even though it says it is working.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] n01un0:
I'm using 1.7.0

How do I get another version? Any particular version you can recommend?

Sent from my SSGSIIE4GTuvwxyz!.....Should I touch my nose or walk a straight line now?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dtr145r:
roam control will do nothing with this hack, infact it will most likely cause data to not work

in most states 11115 also does nothing therefore changing ur prl to this wont force roaming, give you better data, or signal. 90 percent of it is the same as 60681

00001 will or should give you 3g in your area.

if you dont want to use 0001 then ur prob not going to get 3g then....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DizDroid:
This..........................
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Call and find out

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] idesofmarch:
Haha yeah and let us know how it goes
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
What are you talking about bro? If you have a prl that supports verizon 3g then turning on roam control and using roaming only will give you 3g data, simple as that. I use prl 11115 and get amazing 3g speeds from verizon when ever I want using roam control
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bad_HABIT:
I'm seeing many users notice different little bugs with the phone (me included) and instead of having multiple threads about it, maybe we can all post it in one place where later the devs can see it and work on them once the phone is rooted etc.. Good idea/bad idea? I come from an Evo 4g with Sense rom so I wonder how many of these might not really be "bugs" but just a different user experience.

I'll start..

Accu weather app not updating location automatically

apk files downloaded from the computer and then transferred to phone are not showing up (unknown sources, usb debugging checked)

No function when touching the clock widget. It does not launch me to alarm, world clock, time etc menu. Maybe this is just a touchwiz thing as I mentioned above, I come from a sense rom.

So far those are the ones on top of my head. As I use the phone more, I'm sure I'll spot more (hope not!).

Anyone else?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] humdrum2009:
Phone dialer issues

I have to reboot my phone from time to time to make a call.

It just says call ended when i try to call out.

When i reboot it works fine for a few hours.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stupendusd:
Mentioned above plus the following so far (except reboot for calling issue):

No landscape mode using TW (auto-rotate enabled)

Red LED only available notification color (REALLY?!)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] akarol:
Skype video calling is upside down when using in portrait mode.

Also, phone call is automatically in Speaker mode when calling after making a Skype video call.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Journeyjeans:
*Occasional phone FREEZES. As in, one minute it is okay, and the next minute, you have to do a battery pull. Happened twice since I got it on launch day.

*Browser closing for no reason. Happened 4 times since launch day.

*When plugged in with Samsung charger, phone's screen will act real glitchy

*SWYPE does not work properly, no matter the settings. Have to type normally.

That's all the software bugs I've experienced. Hardware-wise, there are reports of problems with data, 3G, 4G, and WIFI....I haven't seen any word on Bluetooth yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Erislover:
Go exchange your phone -- sounds like a lemon. No other real complaints about freezing or auto-closing apps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Journeyjeans:
Actually, other's have experienced auto-closing apps and freezing. It's in a thread around here or at sprintusers.com, I forget which.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bspec:
For the first three days I couldn't get data while roaming though the proper settings were checked. Sprint customer care reset my phone and after an hour of waiting it works.

All else its great (except for the above oddities with Touch Wiz) though I haven't checked GPS after encrypting the device.