yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Droid X2] knipp21:
Give it a week or two. I'm trying this on my inc2 as well :-)
[Motorola Droid X2] garywojdan81:
What, then, do you think this for? Can this just be placebo effect?
[Motorola Droid X2] ferg40:
If I couldn't get in trouble for it I would take a picture of the features on the account that do it. If it worked for you run with it. Just sayin. Didn't work for me. Nothing has changed. Lol
[Motorola Droid X2] garywojdan81:
I hope I didn't come off as sarcastic. I genuinely am interested in your opinion of what this is all about. Is it possible for some type of file on the phone to perform this way?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Derp

If you 'knew' nothing would happen, why did you try this mod?
[Motorola Droid X2] rustymcbain:
I read somewhere that Obama and his cronies created a law that said practices like data throttling on unlimited plans are unlawful. Verizon and others are suing over this now and will probably lose. The date to go in effect is somewhere in November. Apparently AT&T has been doing this with home services for some time now and has caught the attention of Obama. But if all goes well for us this throttling will be gone soon enough.

If anything we should be allowed out of our contracts to switch carriers. Back to sprint ill go with 4 lines of service with data. Their loss.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Verizon fighting this is a complete joke, they know they're going to lose the battle; they're just buying time and making as much profit as possible before then.

I'm also leaving for sprint, but not before I profit a few times from Verizon, hey it's only fair.

And yes, you can legally get out of your contract because of this.
[Motorola Droid X2] hapyman:
Thanks that worked. I forgot I had to do that everytime I reflash.

Here are my results. Before in green. After in yellow. I tried the same 3 servers each time sitting in the same place in my house. Not only is max speed faster but the speeds seem less choppy and more consistent. I'll have run some more tests tomorrow.
[Motorola Droid X2] ferg40:
Why is it you always come off as a ****? I'm not understanding your big man complex you get one people have something different to say. Dang man. This is why I don't share stuff on here.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I love you too <3
[Motorola Droid X2] ilovesoad:
I think this community as a whole leaves a lot to be desired. I liked the tbolt community.
[Motorola Droid X2] ferg40:
Very true.
[Motorola Droid X2] ferg40:
I tried it because I had to test it before I said anything.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
I seem to remember it being completely the other way, that Obama was in favor of throttling. Got any links/evidence for this? I can't find anything from either side.

---------- Post added at 12:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 AM ----------

@ Fergo40Could it be that you have the ability to invoke the throttle, but without the files on our phone, no way of really enforcing it?

For example, could one of us PM you our info and see if you are able to throttle us with, and then without the files?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
I tried removing the files, erasing the the numbers and letters inside, changing permissions, and it all led to a LOT better speeds.....until I reboot, and the files get replaced. I also couldn't connect to the Android market even though I could connect to the internet when the files were changed.

Too bad it messed with stuff, I liked getting 2400kb/s!!! Upload speeds seemed to almost decrease though except for 1 test where I was getting 900kb/s!
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Did you change permissions of the throttle folder also? Mine have always held after reboot.
[Motorola Droid X2] JoshB410:
Am I right in assuming I can't do anything about this until I get rooted on 2.3.4?

I'm unrooted. . .and just did a speed test:

1.04Mbps DL

0.74Mbps UL

Definitely getting throttled, and I'm not going to put up with that.
[Motorola Droid X2] knipp21:
The best I've ever gotten with my 3g was 1.3..
[Motorola Droid X2] cac2us:
boot script?

This looks tempting..

Any thoughts of creating a bootime script to do this?

Last month I found that My VZW showed my data use over 12GB.

Iv'e rarely gone over 5gb since I was with Qwerst. 14GB.

Got a letter and all that stuff.

Told them Mouser and DigiKey were the culprit..

Fast forward to last month, I looked closely at the timestamps of the "months" data and found a 14 day overlap. They were doing a similar thing with peak voice minutes (some 999 999-9999 numbers were matching the timestamp that my wife and daughter were talking, on our familly "SHARE" plan).

I still have the unlimited plan till 2013 or so, but now that campground that we live at has free WiFi I just use data when on the go.

Still I think that a company that provides you with a phone that is loaded with so much bloat that you cant help but use your quota of data thus forcing you to cough up $10 USD for every GIG over, OR upgrade to an "UPPER TIER PLAN".

THIS SMELLS OF RACKETIERING TO ME....

Let's all get a petition going to show VomitRizen that just because they took on the ASSPLE iShitt and took the first bite, then want to stick US with the worm.

In that I mean, why should the common user have to pay for the yuppies to stream the iPads.

It's too much like what that Busch WACKING asso did to america....

DO the math 3 trillion surplus Cheats his way in, twice then hands out "HUSH" money to look the other way while corp. america waddles in profit and the economy crapps....:mad:

May It's filthy soul rot in hell....:eek:
[Motorola Droid X2] inkiliuks:
I got with my 3g was 1.3.. too
[Motorola Droid X2] knipp21:
Why would they send you letter...you pay for unlimited data...you never met your limit..
[Motorola Droid X2] cac2us:
Server ?

Back when I had QWerst, I was living between Tula and OK City.

They thought I was using my PPC 6700 (Yes the Apache) as a remote server.

Good ol PPC KItchen, those were the days....:D
[Motorola Droid X2] Twicebak3d:
I remember reading about this on a couple different forums. Only difference was that it was in regards to tmo throttling, rather than VZW. Seems to be a large success rate here lol. GJ sticking it to big red lol.

Sent from a CM7 i897 that is quite possibly more than a few nighties behind.
[Motorola Droid X2] cac2us:
update-cm-7.1.0-Inc2-signed.zip

Check out the stable....:D:D
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...cc-says-net-neutrality-lite-rules-illegal.ars

(LOVE this picture in this article LAWL)

Been doing this since 2.3.3 should work with 2.2.2 also... and yes you must be rooted.

This mod takes about 1 minute of your time once upon a new ROM install, and holds throughout (if you change permissions right).
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
I knew about the Net Neutrality crap, I thought he was talking about something else unrelated, as that was what I was talking about.
[Motorola Droid X2] juice2013:
Just tried out the mod, worked great, except i can't do *228 to update and my closest server my phone tests from on the speed test is over 100 mi away for some reason even though my city is a major wireless test zone. Besides that the pages appear to load much faster and I can still use data.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Are you running any roms? You may need to try *22899.
[Motorola Droid X2] juice2013:
Yeah Eclipse v1.0.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Try *22899 then, don't worry about the dialer not showing up. It will do everything on its own.
[Motorola Droid X2] knipp21:
Or hold down the menu button..
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
I do believe ferg40: the throttle being started at the account level, but I see this as the switch. Jump the switch and the light stays on!

:p
[Motorola Droid X2] juice2013:
Just got back from class. Just wanted to report to any others who may be interested that *22899 worked from what I can tell.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Glad it worked for you!
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
Ok so, I just SBF'd to 2.3.4 and decided what the heck I will check my speeds cause whenever I try and stream espn either I get crappy picture the whole time or I get crappy for a few minutes then it gets nice then it stays crappy...

(keep in mind I just "activated" my phone) the speeds are as follows for 3 tests same place and same tower:

DL: 990kbps 1712kbps 1273kbps

UP: 448kbps 550kbps 503kbps

Ping: 222kbps 148kbps 142kbps

ran these tests approximately 15 minutes after activation and 35 after SBF

I would say I am at about 5gigs a month on data. So make whatever you want out of these numbers

using speedtest.net app
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Fargles Do a b4 and after test, not sure what you stating

The hack works. I have 4x the speed at least! Follow post 30 exactly.
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
Well those numbers were similar too some after effets of the posters who have done the mod. Also I am not sure if re-activating my phone had any effect on the results, I am just saying. As soon as I root I will be trying the mod so I will post when I am done.
[Motorola Droid X2] dodge_408:
OK so after doing the instructions on post 30 and also running speedy v6 it dropped my speed from 1.6Mbps to .29Mbps

After removing the scripts and returning the throttle files back to normal I went back up to 1.6Mbps
[Motorola Droid X2] zetsumeikuro:
Lets see before changing the permissions on the folder I was getting like 200-800kbps and if lucky getting 1mbps. After I changed the permissions I am at 1.9 mbps DL and 840 kbps upload. I use an average of 11+ GB a month gg netflix. Atm I'm at 3.5 GB at the 4th day in my cycle, so I can say with confidence this seems to work :D.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
This throttle may just work differently for UL vs Limited plans OR your tower OR region could change it.

Please post your plan and region if you do not mind.

UL data, San Fernando valley,ca
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I noticed that when using speedy script my 3g speed went way down until I removed the 3gturbo entries from the script.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
I am on MGF 6 and deleted the initd stuff. BTW Started a D3 thread,busy and a Bionic, dead.
[Motorola Droid X2] dodge_408:
I'm on the unlimited data package and region? Central NM
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
In the Boonies, see D3 thrd. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18344862&postcount=13

Also v6 may use 3g turbo? see above ashclepdia
[Motorola Droid X2] dodge_408:
I didn't see the 3g turbo script in there on 6
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
The 3gturbo edits are inside of speedymain script ...about halfway down ...the 3g turbo isn't its own script
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
Will try this.
[Motorola Droid X2] xaalfx:
When I opened it in text edit and deleted everything on both files and hit save it creates a back up of the files should I delete these back ups?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I did but you don't have to. Good to keep if you want a backup.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
L2_n19h7m4r3

And everyone:)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18394224&postcount=37

What do you think?

BTW

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=987029&page=4
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Most of us have not had overheating or battery drain issues, at least that were not related to something else.
[Motorola Droid X2] xaalfx:
I agree...
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Good thread, pretty in depth. Like I said this was only my theory and I wanted to try it out... and it seems to work for most people who've tried it.

Well let's un-do this MOD and see if these numbers change. I will do this as well when I get back home.

Things I want to know from people who have tried this MOD:

(Of course give permissions back to the throttle folder and files inside, restart your phone before)

1. What is the name of the files you have in the throttle folder.

2. What are the numbers inside both of these files

3. How much data have you used so far in October?

I will edit this post later with my own specs.

EDIT: Specs

File #1: -1258849763

1:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1318609773794:1318609773794

File #2: temp

(blank)

Data (October): 6,124,653.0KB

(Unlimited Data Plan)
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
data/system/throttle/828993651

Contents: 1:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:1318309200000:1320991200000

data/system/throttle/temp

Contents:

1:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1318557906803:1318557906803

Here's a screen of a fresh install of Eclipse 1.2RC without a mod. Used 3.5Gb this month.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
So it seems as though each persons throttle folders has a unique number. Not sure what that means. Just stating the obvious lol.

As to those.links posted above and how the dispute is that throttle is done network side. I counter that with the statement made earlier in the thread about maybe for the throttle to go through it needs the unique id's in that throttle folder. Or maybe that throttle folder is what the other thread mentioned about androids own internal throttle.

I am going to try this again soon but I just can't see Verizon/moto making it THIS easy to get around the throttling. Just seems like they wouldn't overlook something like this.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
WiFi off dude... lol, Verizon doesn't care if you rack up your high speed internet.

I think this is only a fix for those who go over their allotted data and/or go over whatever Verizon deems to be their 5% on a crowded tower. Which would make sense anyways, lol. We really need people who DO NOT have unlimited data or who have used a lot and have proof their speeds dropped at the moment to try it.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18352760&postcount=3

Bionic has the folder.

My phone

folders

"-237761369"

"1:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:1315983600000:1318575600000"

"temp"

"1:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:1315983600000:1318575600000"

67000kb used 4 days into cycle

UL data plan
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
From Droid 3 Forums:

I think this overheating issue is because of the 3G radio working harder, again I think. I used my X2 today for 4 hours straight heavy usage on WiFi and did not notice any sort of heat from my X2; it only gets warm using 3G.

Also upon a speed test from the speedtest.net app today I was able to get 2.31Mbps down and 0.59Mbps up with a 136ms ping.

I've also reset the MOD but with a few tweaks... totally deleting the files in the 'throttle' folder, and changing the 'throttle' folder permissions back to 'read' and 'execute' only. Upon reboot the throttle folder is still empty and 3G is flying. The data inside those files have to be some sort of identification because everyone's is different.

EDIT: MOD Edited.
[Motorola Droid X2] sacnotsack:
Tried this mod last night and worked amazing. Went from 120kbps up to 1.7Mbps for DL. This morning it went back down to what it was before the mod so I restored all changes and tried the mod again. This time my DL speeds averaged around 20kbps. So I removed the battery reset all changes and tried the mod again (I did this whole process 6 times) and I finally got my DL up to 1.5Mps, but that only lasted about ten minutes. Now it's very sporadic sometimes it will be high, sometimes it will be as low as 8kbps. Any ideas?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
There are a couple of different factors to getting good speeds on 3G.

Is your phone getting interference from other devices?

Are you getting full signal strength? (How close are you to data towers)

Is the tower your phone is pulling data from bogged down from other users? (This also depends on the time of day and what area you're in)

Really the speedtest numbers do not matter that much (If too many users are using that server at the same time you won't get a 'good number'); really what matters is how fast you are able to surf (download and upload) through normal everyday usage from your browser and other apps. This should be pretty noticeable.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
sacnotsack

When it seems not to work, are the files still 0 bytes and and r--------?
[Motorola Droid X2] booked:
I have had this issue for quite a while. I called Verizon about it and they said that it could be interference because there's to many trees around my house. Lmfao!

Droid X2 - Eclipse v1.2 rc1
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
W O W. lawl!
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
You would think Verizon tech's would be at least semi intelligent.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Key word, think. :)
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
It's a shame. Tech companies start out with great minds, then when they become large they hire morons. I guess that is how you keep your costs low, right?
[Motorola Droid X2] sacnotsack:
I had the change in speeds in the same room. The only thing different was the time of day. No difference in interference around me.

Yes I made sure the only permissions on the throttle folder is OWNER read.

Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
sacnotsack

Are you in the boonies?

Most problems ,in xda, do occur there.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Throttle folder needs permissions of; Owner: Read & Execute; otherwise you're going to get bootloops.
[Motorola Droid X2] sacnotsack:
Before this cycle I had normal dl speeds (average was around 1.2Mbps) but I used 5gigs of data and I got throttled.

When I did the mod I was not in the boonies, I had full bars 3g both before and after the mod. I work out in the boonies and my DL speed is around 800kbps while I'm at work. I work about 15-20 miles from the Mexican border.

I'm not getting bootloops with the permissions set to only to read

Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Test @ 2am, @ home + @boonies?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Didn't realize you are on dinc2 :P

I had that problem on the X2.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Sorry. Didn't realize wifi was on! :banghead:

I did the new mod and I got around 1mb each tine
[Motorola Droid X2] sacnotsack:
Here are screenshots of all my speed tests since I did the mod

Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ
[Motorola Droid X2] kingsway8605:
It would be insanely hard to throttle traffic in real time in a completely server side way. A blanket always throttle this person like tmobile does is possible, but the only throttle this person at certain times when connected to this tower would be difficult. I would not be surprised if this was some type of log standard to android assisting them and if deleting it broke their throttling.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
This is exactly my thoughts.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
That is what I said pages ago! lol
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Yeah I saw that. Something about "jumping the switch"

I agreed with that a few posts ago just could not remember who said it lol
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
I did. I was the only sense to make of it. I am a field troubleshooter for mechanical/electrical systems.

Also my experience of the tweak was evidence enough for me.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
No reference for BEFORE the mod? What are u trying to show? What was different before?
[Motorola Droid X2] ilovesoad:
I did this on both my x2 and then my charge. Nothing happened. I think this is all placebo. A sever side throttle is not hard like you think it is. You'd just get flagged and then when you go to connect, the system bottlenecks you. A client side throttle based on files we have access to seems asinine.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
It's probably just a standard throttle for all phones on VZW. Not everyone who uses a smart phone knows how to use it haha

I think they were like "eh, let's do it. If they get past it, they get past it."
[Motorola Droid X2] sacnotsack:
The top two entries on the first pic are after the mod, everything else on that pic is before the mod. All the other pics show how sporadic my DL speeds are. Any entry in the other pics that is over 200kbps shows where I completely undid all the changes then reapplied the mod. The first night I did the mod it worked for the few hours until I went to bed. The next morning is when the mod didn't work any more and I started redoing the mod over and over.

I tried changing roms and applying the mod, and I get the same results.

Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Stranger things have happened, look who's in the white house. :eek:
[Motorola Droid X2] Lubencw:
lmfaooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Motorola Droid X2] ilovesoad:
That's awful lol
[Motorola Droid X2] xaalfx:
Agreeeeed lawlz!
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Definitely agree!! lol!

The reason I think the phone side makes sense is because "technically" we are not supposed to have root access. Besides, these files may just be an assist to the overall process, not the primary process.
[Motorola Droid X2] sacnotsack:
So my new cycle starts the 22nd, but my download speed averages 1mbps and the mod is taken off. Any ideas why my speeds went back up?

Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Verizon only "throttles" top data users when the cell tower they are connected to is "congested" which allows lesser users to get better speeds while we "don't lose quality of performance "

This is why the refer to it as "network optimization"

So im guessing the tower u r connected to has become less.congested for.now.

Which is the same reason why last night I was hitting up to 2mbps at like 3am.
[Motorola Droid X2] mrf582:
So, what's the word? Does this do a damned thing? Because, it doesn't seem to on my Droid X2. I followed the instructions in Post # 30.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Are you a high volume user? Meaning, more than 2-3GB at the middle of your month?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Would 17gb count? :p
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1138581

...settings.db

Copy to sd.

Get sqlite editor to view. (get newest v141 and run sqlite inside rootexplorer)

Look at secure. (Data) throttle reset day matches my rollover day(how about yours?).

Is this confirmation of throttling?

Btw why not back these up and save work when switching roms?
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Man, I constantly stream music, and I barely tap 2-4GB/month. WTF are you downloading? lol, you must tether, huh? I have a 50mbps package from Comcast for $39/month, that is cheap/fast enough to warrant not wanting to tether, especially on 3G speeds lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] mrf582:
Yes, the rollover day matched my billing cycle as well.

Great idea to back this up.

I got SQLite editor from here: http://www.androidxmarket.com/applications/sqlite-editor-version-1-4-1.html

But I don't know if changing that setting does anything. I was getting 900kbps before with the setting at 300 and I'm still getting the same after changing it to 2300.

Edit, after reboot, the value goes back to 300. Still getting ~900kbps with that setting.

More: Even tried to set permissions to readonly. But after a reboot, the OS sets them back to chmod 660 and sets the value back to 300. Still getting the same download speed.

I ran about 8 speedtests and I think the download speeds increases by a couple hundred kilobits. But that's very unscientific and I haven't done enough tests to say with any certainty that the results before/after are different.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
mrf582

You did the hack in this thread?

I think the hack stops the throttling action.

btw lots of hacks in those settings

data/data/com.moto.android.providers.settings

63 screen lock 1 (0 disables:):p:);):eek::D:D)

data/data/com.android.providers.settings/system

31 set_install_location 0 ?????????
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] delman420:
so today i got a msg asking if i would like to update my htc software. now i know having a rooted phone you never do an ota update, but that is for the firmware this is for htc hardware. so do i do it or not. thanx for any and all help.:confused::confused::confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HipKat:
How can an OTA update hardware?