yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 3D] cassianog:
Using that site I chose exactly the same browser (Opera), but I keep Firefox installed in (the rare) case I need it for compatibility issues. As a matter of fact, I also keep the stock browser since there are some poorly designed sites I use that only works on browsers like Android stock and IE... Life is never easy. Dolphin browser was installed, tested and instantly uninstalled due to it's low score.
[LG Optimus 3D] GlossGhost:
I don't know what you guys are scoring with Dolphin but here is the beta version which scores 450 like Chrome 22+ versions.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1810576
[LG Optimus 3D] cassianog:
I've been using Go Launcher EX and, about half the times I press the home button, the system asks me which launcher to use, no matter how many times I check the "don't ask me again" checkbox. I'm not sure if the issue is related with this ROM or just with the launcher. Any suggestions?
[LG Optimus 3D] cassianog:
Nice tip. But like me, a lot of people is not willing to use a beta browser. Also, the choice between different browsers, between Android and IOS, Windows, Linux and Mac always raise arguments, but rarely reaches a conclusion.

The site I posted (html5test.com) was an attempt to give an objective tool to help choose a browser. Although I ended up stating what my choice is, I shouldn't have.
[LG Optimus 3D] ubabic:
Could somebody suggest any good working ICS theme for this ROM?

Tnx in advance

Sent from my LG-P920
[LG Optimus 3D] cyclonmaster:
try holo launcher
[LG Optimus 3D] OptimusTM:
Check the applications and themes section of this forum, there's one ICS theme that looks great
[LG Optimus 3D] Kentthegreet:
can anybody kindly give me a link how to flash V21e KDZ or the V21e GB baseband? I am using Windows 7 32bit. I did this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1287236 and this one:http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17177547&postcount=2 on my Win XP but to no avail. Please help. TIA
[LG Optimus 3D] dreccon:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22404876&postcount=81

Please note that you'll need XP for this method!
[LG Optimus 3D] oyanezg:
In the first page of this thread is the link to the method, that's the one I used
[LG Optimus 3D] Tedeusz:
I wonder, is there correct ThiaiZ V0.6 Kernel came out:confused:
[LG Optimus 3D] ubabic:
I have asked this question few times too, but no answer from Thiaiz...

Sent from my LG-P920
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Sorry guys, I am out of business for a while, cause I just have no time right now. Gonna wait until ICS is out.
[LG Optimus 3D] ubabic:
It's not a problem...I asked just because i wanted to OC my phone a little bit...Is there a way we could fix it by ourselves?

Sent from my LG-P920
[LG Optimus 3D] nico_l:
I use Promethius OC Kernel, it works with all speeds. But you should wipe Caches before you install...

Gesendet von meinem LG P920 mit Tapatalk. Rom is ThiaiZ O3D 2.8 with Promethius-Kernel 1.5
[LG Optimus 3D] grish:
Using this ROM since it's out and it's the best so far.

I've had others before and CM sucks on the O3D, from my experiences.
[LG Optimus 3D] dfrimmel:
Should I use stock or 0.6 Thiaiz, or some other kernel kernel with 2.8 Beta ROM , what do you people suggest, stability is most important thing for me?
[LG Optimus 3D] siwy25leszno:
ThiaiZ you no update more ThiaiZ roms ? ;//
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Think it is the best I can get on GB, after ICS update new versions will arrive.
[LG Optimus 3D] ErnestoD:
Looks amazing. Im using a stock GB 2.3.5 rom, I have root and CWM (through rom manager) Baseband V21D.

I know that I must install modified touch CWM but can I install this rom on my device or shoul I do something first

AHA I read that I must flash V21E before but, that this rom include spanish language ¡¡??
[LG Optimus 3D] yourguitarist:
It includes everything language
[LG Optimus 3D] Fusel Wusel:
[edit] nervermind...
[LG Optimus 3D] ErnestoD:
Thanks man

:laugh::laugh:
[LG Optimus 3D] JiroPrinz8:
Sorry for the noob question, but where do i find the V21E KDZ for P920? It is not in the link provided in the OP.
[LG Optimus 3D] ffteixeira:
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGP920/AITAML/V21e_00/V21E_00.kdz
[LG Optimus 3D] JiroPrinz8:
Thanks! Also, can I flash this directly coming from XBSALL's Rom? afaik it is also v21E based.
[LG Optimus 3D] speedyranger:
xbsall rom is based on ics...
[LG Optimus 3D] JiroPrinz8:
I was talking about this ROM. XBSA V21E P920 & V20F SU760 "ICS Themed" V2

Yep works fine. Great ROM! Smooth so far!

Cant wait to see what you can do when official ICS comes around.
[LG Optimus 3D] cassianog:
I've been using this ROM for a while now, but recently I noticed that the stock 3D games (Nova, Asphalt and Lets Golf) are not working. They show the message "wait for the application to load" and, almost instantly, the application closes. I tried to delete the downloaded portion of the games from my SD to force the games to download again but nothing happened.

I have other 3D games from Gameloft (Nova 2, GT Racing and Avatar) and all of them work fine.

Any suggestions?

Thanx.

EDIT: I've just discovered the problem is caused by my editting of build.props file. I used to edit the file so my phone is listed as a LG-P920H. Leaving the model as original, brings the games back.
[LG Optimus 3D] oyanezg:
Reflash rom. Do a clean install

That happends to mr all time,now im on Ics and its amazing. Boot up time is 9 seconds.
[LG Optimus 3D] cassianog:
Thanx for the tip.

ICS booting in 9 seconds? Amazing! But I'll wait a while, mostly because I can't afford the time to learn (and debug) the flashing process. Perhaps when my vacations come and I have the time, the bugs on the ICS will be all solved.
[LG Optimus 3D] dreccon:
@thiaiz

I came across this thread and I thought I should tell you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1959545

Using this method, you could build a custom ICS ROM flashable via CWM without all the fuss of resizing the partition table.

I remember, back in the days of the legendary Omnia I, a rom chef could auto-install extra software during first boot just by placing cab files in a certain folder in the SD card (I don't even remember what that method was called). This could be the way to replace those apps you would have to remove from the ROM in order to make it fit.

Happy cooking ;)
[LG Optimus 3D] nic85:
If you are planing to use LG 3D MAX launcher, flash the update found under attached files. It contains: Themes,SNS widget and Data traffic widget.

where is it? :confused:
[LG Optimus 3D] nic85:
2.8 rom + 0.6 kernel 1.2ghz all is ok but i can't connect at my home wifi network :(
[LG Optimus 3D] nic85:
Problem solved!

Another Problem:

i can't get overclock...also with 1.2 and 1.1 kernels...why??
[LG Optimus 3D] nic85:
I can't install apk out of The market.. Why??
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Hi Nic85. There is a problem in the OC kernel, so overclocking is not possible on my kernels, I must have missed something while compiling it.I have no time to fix it right now, and don't know when I am gonna get some time
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Are you comming from a clean install? If so, try stopping the market app or clean its cache and data.
[LG Optimus 3D] nic85:
i had to install normal google playstore :)

but when i downalod apk from another source i can't installa them..i always have file corruption :crying:

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ok so it's normal....btw also without oc the rom is so good..nice work dude :good:
[LG Optimus 3D] satkitten:
bluetooth always visible

Thank you for this brilliant stable fast rom. been using for 3 months now with no issues at all.

I would like though my bluetooth to always be visibile. is there a way to do this?

I have changed the main.conf file in etc/bluetooth option of discoverabletimeout =0 and this seems to be mirrored in the

system/etc/bluetooth folder but i always have to tick the make discoverable button which still lasts for only 120 seconds.

I love the new option in Jellybean which allows you to never timeout!!
[LG Optimus 3D] Aloha-There:
I dont know how you guys install this rom so easily .. or you guys make it sound so easy :p I have LG Thrill 4G (P925) on the at&t brand. I have been searching this forum .. but i couldnt find a proper way of installing this rom. I dont want to brick my phone .. rather I am willing to donate something via paypal .. if someone could help me out. The only thing I figured out is to firstly start with flashing my baseband to 21e .. lol

Anyways .. i dug out this info from my phone's 'about' settings. Hope this helps .. as any co-operation in this matter will be highly appreciated :)

Model Number: 925

Android Version: 2.3.5

Baseband version: L6260_Modem_Sic_01.1042.0

Kernel version: 2.6.35.7+

Build Number: GRJ904

Software version: LGP925-V20p-Feb-22-2012
[LG Optimus 3D] grish:
I will PM you when I am free.

Probably Monday, if I feel like it.
[LG Optimus 3D] bigfoot.kom:
Aloha. I have the same phone on v20p base band. Flashed this rom and everything worked fine. You do not have to flash v21e. In cwm recovery, back up existing rom, wipe data, wipe cache, wipe delvic cache, install the zip from wherever you saved it. Probably the internal sd.

FYI, Samno has also ported his promethius rom over to the lg thrill. That's what I'm on now. Good luck.
[LG Optimus 3D] ptlsajan:
can i flash rom version 2.8 if i have v21a...........and can some one tell me which recovery can i use........i m just new to these phone and i m just rooted not even installed cwm
[LG Optimus 3D] bigfoot.kom:
Hello. If you are on stock rom and rooted, if you get cwm flash the optimus 3d recovery in cwm, the standard version not touch. I use recovery version 5.0.2.7, it seems to work better for me. The new 6. version seems a bit unstable in my opinion. As for the 20A baseband I'm not sure about the signal. I'm on v20p and this rom ran fine. Hope this helps.
[LG Optimus 3D] ptlsajan:
ok i m trying to flash the cwm and then install on v20a........if anything goes wrong i will reflash the stock rom
[LG Optimus 3D] bigfoot.kom:
You should be good. But signal I'm not so sure. This is a rom for p920/o3d so it should work.
[LG Optimus 3D] ptlsajan:
i just bought these phone before 3 days....i was previously using htc sensation 4g.

and i can really feel that the camera is the crap in lgo3d.......it takes dull shots.......when it focus then its doing well but after taking the shot it blurs little bit and i can feel no colors in the pictures..........

so i flashed these rom and still the same problem with camera............is there any way to make camera take better pictures which have vibrant colors..........
[LG Optimus 3D] pota--:
try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1502963
[LG Optimus 3D] ptlsajan:
tried but still colors are not that real colors..........any help

even the default 3d nova and asphalt games gives error that internet connection is not available.....

is these the rom problem or my country INDIA problem that i cannot able to download the data of any games that are in rom and that games that i try to download online with wifi(i cant download any sd data of gameloft games)
[LG Optimus 3D] Itaka06:
I tried 2.8 and it doesnt work for me with v21a, im now on 2.4 of thaiz rom with v21a but i will update it soon. Everything i have tried so far seems to work.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Do you have correct baseband man ?
[LG Optimus 3D] Kresstian:
Is this ROM (v2.8) ghostcall free with the kernel that comes with it, or do I need to flash stock v21e kernel? :)
[LG Optimus 3D] mcscruff:
Im on 21e and its ghost free
[LG Optimus 3D] Kresstian:
Stock or Thiaiz?
[LG Optimus 3D] xiqxiq:
Thiaiz, will you ever make an ICS ROM ? Can't wait for a minimal liteweight one with good performance!
[LG Optimus 3D] plznote:
He no longer develops for the 03D.
[LG Optimus 3D] xiqxiq:
Oh that's such a shame. What's he doing now?
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
I think you misunderstood, ThiaiZ. I meant if the Rom had a battery mod so I could see the percent level in the status bar.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Totally misunderstood you :D. It doesn't cause right now I'm not been able to touch the framework, if I do so I end in boot loops. What you can use instead is the lg battery widget.
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
Its fine. I made one in UOT Kitchen.
[LG Optimus 3D] douglam:
Yes. That would be great to have.

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Could you please share with us? Thanks in advance.
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
No problem, but you can make your own here.
[LG Optimus 3D] douglam:
Thanks for sharing! :)
[LG Optimus 3D] PROTOCHIP:
Dear Killer Bee,

Thanks for sharing. Have u tried this flashable zip on ThiaiZV1.3 rom? Thanks in advance...

Kind Regards,
[LG Optimus 3D] typhex:
Thiaz: u installed new music app right? If itry to play a song i get force close
[LG Optimus 3D] stefankorun:
Try clearing data from applications settings...
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
Yes, its for ThiaiZ 1.3.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Well done killer bee. I havent had time myself to try, and I gonna be very busy untill next wednessday so its cool that you guys can make your own updates and post here for everybody.
[LG Optimus 3D] mohicanrat:
hi ThiaiZ,

how to change new market on your rom to old market (green and white market) ?

because new market is very slow :(
[LG Optimus 3D] mad_sunday:
Hi peeps,

rom installed and working OK up to now.

Just one question, how is the 3D converter supposed to work. When I open it its just a link to a "work in progress" web page? Are there any games we can just adapt to work without going online? Can games already installed be made to work with it?

Pete

Sorted it, just start it and press the menu button then customizable games. :-)
[LG Optimus 3D] typhex:
the music app is not working for me.. idk why.. i tried clearing data. i am getting force close, sometimes my o3d even reboots itself when i try to open a music file
[LG Optimus 3D] Farhang:
Well I have to admit that v1.3 of this ROM is currently the best ROM for Optimus3D.

Well done ThiaiZ
[LG Optimus 3D] typhex:
Yes it is.... everything is perfect for me except the new music app :)
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
The lib is there, its very strange that it is not working. Im also getting FC while trying to play music.I mean from the honeycomb music app. The LG one works just fine.
[LG Optimus 3D] mad_sunday:
The music app is working for me?

Pete

Update, mine reboots if I try accessing music files with the Honeycomb one. Removed it with root uninstaller. :-)
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
One is LG music player and the other one is Honeycombs player. You can just uninstall the honeycomb one cause LGs works just fine.
[LG Optimus 3D] bzpty:
Hello ThiaiZ

One question

This ROM work for LG Thrill LGP925?
[LG Optimus 3D] psychgamer:
Big txh from romania!

I can not wait another release rom from you! THX:D
[LG Optimus 3D] michalsk11:
AMAZING PERFORMANCE !!

nenamark 2.4

52,4 fps
[LG Optimus 3D] l3oykute:
Help! i have a problem: if i activate bluetooth the phone freezes have to remove battery to get it back on!How to fix!?
[LG Optimus 3D] fsol:
That is not nrmal for these ROM!

That is best ROM for GB!!!

Try to reinstall ROM or flash new ICS 4.0.4
[LG Optimus 3D] Draegloth:
Probably your installation is corrupted I suggest you to redowload the Rom and make a full wipe before you installing it again. There shouldn't be any problem with BT
[LG Optimus 3D] ptlsajan:
Anyone still using these Rom ??
[LG Optimus 3D] helmkeren:
any development with this thread ?
[LG Optimus 3D] speedyranger:
no.
[LG Optimus 3D] n.a.b.s.t.e.r:
Hotfile is gone

Dear Maemo23, I'm afraid that hotfile has shut down. Would you kindly re-post the ROM elsewhere? Thank you.
[LG Optimus 3D] Thombs:
I need a good rom for my o3d, link please, help
[LG Optimus 3D] SUMMERBREEZE:
is there a possibility to upload it somewhere? the link is dead as all know. any mirror link please?
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Hi mate. Don you still need the ROM?
[LG Optimus 3D] anapospastos:
Can you upload it somewhere? I need it.
[LG Optimus 3D] Phenomen:
I need an active link with all tools needed for flashing this rom Pleae! The link is dead
[LG Optimus 3D] SUMMERBREEZE:
it would be great to upload it somewhere..
[LG Optimus 3D] Sharma Manu:
Anyone Please Re-upload This Rom Please Please.................................................................
[LG Optimus 3D] HaS*Gektor:
Hello. Could you give me a link to the working firmware for LG P920 phone ? The problem is that all the links that have been identified , they simply do not work. I will be grateful to all.

P.S. it is desirable to give a link to it here. Sorry for my eglish

Features:V2.8 GB

-Base: V21e.NEW

-Kernel:ThiaiZ Custom Kernel V0.6

-Everything from LG is still there. (No Gulliver's book)

-Odexed.NEW

-Many .apks were deodexed re-engineered and odexed back. The boost in memory management and performance is incredible.NEW

-LG 3D Max + LG O3D stock launcher.

-LG Prada IME.

-LG Spectrum in touch widget.

-LG Spectrum Desk clock.

-LG Spectrum Digital clock widget.

-Google Play store Legacy.NEW

-New Ringtones,Message tones and Alarm tones.

-WIFI Killer +App timer Pro(NEW) + FM Radio +Onlive + Root browser (Just free apps on my ROM)

-Changed Bootanimation.

-Original 3D games (Nova,Golf2,Asphalt6) are patched to be installed on SDCARD.

-My Gingerbread theme in it.

-New wallpapers.

-Sony Bravia Engine.

-Sony XPLOD Engine.

-HTC Beats.

-ThiaiZ Smoothness tweak V0.3 (Working together with LG 3D max launcher, making it very smooth).

-Increased I/O reading speed with performance pack from O2X.

-Removed software (CPU) rendering - full PowerVR SGX 540 (GPU) rendering.

-SIP over 3G.

-Init.d new tweaks (zipalign on boot,RAM management,SDbooster=128kb).
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
^ Yes, however I'm having Wifi issues. Sometimes it disconnects and refuses to reconnect to it and when Wifi does work, it turns it off and uses data while the screen is off.

EDIT:

Does this Rom's kernel support init.d?
[LG Optimus 3D] smackdownn:
For the wifi part just go to wifi settings and menu and advanced settings.there you will find option called wifi sleep policy, change it to never and the wifi problem is solved.
[LG Optimus 3D] Claudio67:
Init.d is not working on mine, use the script manager to run scripts on startup and then:

This ROM imho is the best :eek:

I had also some trouble trying to update Youtube from Market, I used root uninstaller, removed, rebooted, then install went fine.

Attached battery mod from UOT!
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Thanx buddy. I updated first page about (Running the scripts throw script manager) (There aren't O3D ROMs that run init.d from boot, well I dont know about the Cyanogen one, havent tried it, but all the others dont load scripts on boot). I also decided to don't make themes anymore on next versions , the reason for this is that people have different taste and I don't care about having my mark on every single part of my ROMs or having my name on build.prop instead of phone original version.I am not here selling a product but trying to make our O3D better.
[LG Optimus 3D] dexxxterek:
i had battery problem on 1.3. In stats Honeycomb Music app used more than 60% battery.
[LG Optimus 3D] Ernest05:
It has got a v6 supercharger ?
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Install it from their thread. V1.3 has smoothness + sdcard speed script it.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Uninstall honeycomb music app. V1. 3 has the best battery management between all the O3D ROMs Ive tried.
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
This helped, thanks.

What scripts are you using?
[LG Optimus 3D] gentillo:
how to instal "out battery mod"?
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
Anyone know how to get this working so I can download games over 40MB, but I'm kinda lost.

Through CWM.
[LG Optimus 3D] RayHK:
Hi ThiaiZ, Thanks for your great ROM.
[LG Optimus 3D] Claudio67:
The 2 included in etc/init.d and supercharger v6 update 8 configured with option 1 for home memory lock, and 7 for multitasking.

I uninstalled honeycomb, facebook, the stock browser, favorites widget (I use Dolphin) and email app and widget. All the lg stuff is gone :-)

Anyway during the benchmark I didn't remove widget or sync or other.

Was performed as i use my phone everyday, with all apps and games installed, that's the reason why I like this guy because he know what he is doing :D
[LG Optimus 3D] kingfisher1111:
What email app do you use?
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Started to work on ThiaiZ V1.4 based on V10K :D
[LG Optimus 3D] x7nofate:
I installed this rom and v6 supercharge but mine score in Quadrant only 2800

P.s.

can I remove this from sd card in the and?
[LG Optimus 3D] DevJackey:
What's new in V10K?
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
Any changes that you know of? Also, could you build the cache fix (to allow downloads of games over 40mbs) into this release?

EDIT:

Never mind, I reinstalled the Rom and now I can download data over 40MB as long as I wait a few minutes before the next big install.

Sent from my LG-P925
[LG Optimus 3D] douglam:
what app did you use to remove the built in apps?
[LG Optimus 3D] dexxxterek:
Root Uninstaller
[LG Optimus 3D] Farhang:
ThiaiZ, I noticed that removing LG's Launcher and use something else like "Go Launcher EX" improves battery life dramatically.

So is it possible for you to make an alternative version without any of LG's application and a different launcher?

Cheers.
[LG Optimus 3D] Claudio67:
gmail

But k9 could be better
[LG Optimus 3D] Claudio67:
Try to delete cache and dalvik in cwm cause 2800 is very low for this rom.

You can remove it but could be a good idea save it on ext-sd for v 1.4
[LG Optimus 3D] DevJackey:
Not exactly, also depends on how much stuff he has installed already.

I got both scripts running and also v6 supercharge, but a quadrant score of 2400s

This is due to me having over 130 market apps installed, around 30 more amazon apps installed, a few non market apps, and the stock stuff.
[LG Optimus 3D] Claudio67:
Of course you right anyway I think that with stock ROM you should have less than 1K scores :D.

Anyway I will try to wipe caches there are not risk.
[LG Optimus 3D] discoferret:
Guys my battery is draining very quickly. Am I missing something?
[LG Optimus 3D] Spartoi:
^ No, the O3D has pretty bad battery life. I recommend getting some 1980MAH extended batteries.
[LG Optimus 3D] greenbat:
as promised

Thanx ThiaiZ,

Great Rom and battery life!

As promised:

78U16842AM2091202
[LG Optimus 3D] x7nofate:
before I install this rom I did all wipe, default fastory/ cache partition/ dalvik

this score I did straight after I installed this rom, on new system without any apps. I did test many times and 2800 is a bast result.:confused:

P.s. according to info...

I dont have to install busybox for V6 Supercharger, right?
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Nope,the right busybox version for V6 is already there.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Thank you very much, I do really appreciated that :D
[LG Optimus 3D] Farhang:
After trying AcuraTeam Koala v1 ROM, I say that ThiaiZ ROM (v1.3) is still the best ROM available.

Battery life in ThiaiZ ROM is just amazing. 4 Hours after I unplugged my phone with WiFi on (Weather Widget) and battery is 97%. Very impressive!
[LG Optimus 3D] Lorien25:
@ThiaiZ

do you have an eta on 1.4 version you currently working on ?

Would wait for it if it doesn't take long, before i install 1.3.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Probably out tomm, so wait i would recommend.
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Any improvement on their ROM with the new Kernel, or did they fix the FPS issue on new kernel ?
[LG Optimus 3D] Farhang:
I did not see any improvements compare to ThiaiZ v1.3 at all!

I also had two random reboots. (The phone was idle but suddenly it rebooted) :confused:

I didn't test any games but the ROM itself didn't feel as smooth as ThiaiZ v1.3. There were a little lag while scrolling or trying to add a widget. :rolleyes:

Battery seemed to be draining faster than ThiaiZ 1.3.

So I went back to ThiaiZ v1.3 and will wait till v1.4! :D
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Thanx man, not gonna even try their new kernel than. Btw V1.4 is ready, everything working only issue is that I can't log into LG's Facebook, everything else is just fine.
[LG Optimus 3D] RayHK:
Will you upload v1.4 today?