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[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Are you using power and volume up for RSD MODE on ur phone? I believe that is the way you need to do it. That is how I always have. And like evil Tim said. If u r using the newer RSD lite floating around then try old faithful 5.3.1

Sorry if my suggestions have been tried or mentioned. Its all I can think of for now
[Motorola Droid X2] SubVirus:
going to attempt your different version of RSD lite.

heh... i was using 4.8 from back when i would restore my Droid X

hopefully this is the final step i need to do...

EDIT: well it has started the process, i'd imagine i'm good to go.

i was able to get it into charge mode by restarting my phone a bunch of times and one of the times it happened to let me scroll the notification bar down (usually its blocked by the initial setup)

Thanks for everyone's support and ideas, i thought i was out of luck; but it looks like its all good.
[Motorola Droid X2] slvrbul:
Glad to hear it !!!
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Thanks for the report back. I was wondering how ya made out.

Im assuming it was the RSDlite version that changed the outcome? Or was it u being able to get charged?

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So far I have yet to see someone HARD BRICK their x2. I can't see it happening unless it's someone messing with bootloader partitions and signature and such. Though I've read that sbf isn't really a FULL partition included. I was a bit thrown off at how after I sbf first time when I complete deleted my build.prop and other things before I knew better, that I had the same wallpaper as before sbf. Lol
[Motorola Droid X2] SubVirus:
It was the version of rsdlite more than the getting it back to charge mode. Basically eclipse remix had a bug in their initial setup (which has been fixed) I just had all sorts of little problems here and there such as having the older rsdlite which I hadn't even thought about updating.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
According to wmpoweruser.com WhatsApp is now available at the marketplace.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jeremy.head:
Isn't showing in the UK yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Yeah, it seems like it cannot be donwloaded yet due to permission issues.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I cannot download. Anyone else?
[Windows Phone 7 General] josepmanel:
It IS showing in Spain but when I try to download it, it gives me an unknown error. I guess we won't be able to download it until Mango is officialy out...
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
I have an unknown error too

nodo 7 pro, singapore
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
This is mean. I want this app!

It's not showing in phone's marketplace. But in zune it is.

Btw, if you search for it you will not find. But if you open the link it will.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
running it now.

Download it trough 3mktplace, that will work, just copy the zune link from the article.

It is not as good as I hoped. Very laggy and a sloppy design, far from professional. Hopefully this will change soon, maybe they pulled it for some reason and thats why it does not show up on the phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Marvin, I tried and it gives me an error. Could you send me the xap please?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
zune://navigate/?appID=f380683f-5d04-4566-aec6-988d68714938

And than download. Its is a MANGO app just in case anybody wonders if this will work on NoDo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I'm running Mango, and my device is dev unlocked, so no problem about that. But I used the same link and it doesnt work. It gives me an error.

Maybe it is ask too much, but please send me by email?

mikee.amaral@gmail.com
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
What error? Im sending the mail now. (I prefer not to post it on openly, since everybody can just get it fairly easily with version 0.64 of 3mtkplace).
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Thank you. I'm using 0.54. It doesnt show an error, it just show "error count: 1".
[Windows Phone 7 General] derausgewanderte:
download works on 0.64.

link to 0.64
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
On wmpoweruser.com somebody posted the xap in the comments.
[Windows Phone 7 General] supernoob199:
Humm, well i succesfully downloaded and installed the .xap now :D. but im waiting now 15mins for the verification code to come... anyone already 'chatting' :D?

BTW i uploaded the.xap, if anyone want the DL link pm me and ill send u the link to post it here, cz this is my first post and im not allowed to post outside links^.^

edit:YEY! voice confirmation worked, but friends cant see that i wrote to em ;(

edit2: evrything works now just awesome! thx 4sharing

Greetz
[Windows Phone 7 General] lobbie1978:
XAP WhatsApp

XAP is available to download here: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=4a53fef3f220660e&sc=documents&id=4A53FEF3F220660E!164

(I hope I can post this link here :o )
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I guess there is no problem at all. It's free anyway
[Windows Phone 7 General] ales_x1:
This app is in private beta,that's why we can't download it from the marketplace :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] cruzzmz:
i have download it from the skydrive and the code came to me in 10 sec ... all ok can see all my friends and will do the msg test soon

seems all ok :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] tooly26:
anybody interested to have the latest version without audiostream?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ram49:
Though its a older post , Here is the V2.0 . I'm still using it. Works fine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tooly26:
thank you but once u have installed a newer version an registered @ whatsapp Server u cant go back to old one...

they changed the way to certificate phone...

anyway i have the newest version without audiostream :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ram49:
Interesting.. I didn't update Whatsapp recently after their mess with fake audio stream. Mind to share the newest version with out audio stream?

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[Windows Phone 7 General] canaQ:
Yes please! :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] henry084:
Please also PM me the link for the latest version without audiostream (v2.9.63/3.0.0 onwards), many thanks.

I am already fed up with the audiostream.:(
[Windows Phone 7 General] canaQ:
I would like to have that too... Or if someone can explain how to remove the audiostream I will try to do it myself (and share if I can manage to pull it off ;) )
[Windows Phone 7 General] lordmago:
They said audiostream will be removed with next Whatsapp version, actual is 2.9.4.0 and it still got it... It should be version 3...

In the meantime, I'm using an app called "stop the music!".

I put its tile near the whatsapp one, so, when I finish "whatsapping", I use "stop the music" to stop audiostream.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rvnreddyv@gmail.com:
hi, i need the dl link man

my email is rvnreddyv@gmail.com
[Windows Phone 7 General] morfinrider:
Unable to download Whatsapp

Folks, I am using a Nokia Lumia 710, which is updated to latest 7.8 version. I was unable to see display pics on whatsapp, so decided to uninstall and reinstall it. I uninstalled it, only to find to my horror that whatsapp is removed from marketplace! Now I cannot install it again. Any ideas on how can I reinstall it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] titi66200:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/whatsapp/6b587088-a2bd-4597-8416-6c77f0a3ec6d
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
yeah the messaging works good, its really stable so far and thankfully they binded the toast notifications to the actual message and not just to starting up the app.

There are some issues with the contact list, its very slow to scroll trough, but the messages work fine, there are some bugs with pictures and stuff that while scrolling you accidently click on them. But I assume this is where the beta testing is for and hopefully they will fix it. At least it gets the job done :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] xxdelgado:
Yes yes yes

I am in Spain, i can download and install, send me a SMS message and it is working. YEA !!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] stryker09:
yep working fine here. Malaysia. very minimalist and fast. i would assume that the actual one would be with a bit more polish though. the beta could just be to test the code for the underlying framework. but its very smooth and it works great. wonder if calling will come anytime soon :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] neevedr:
It works in the Netherlands (HTC Trophy 7, OS 7.10.7712.60 Mango RTM, Dev unlocked, side-loaded)
[Windows Phone 7 General] gedrain:
Works perfect on hd2 running 7720.68 mango netherlands
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
You guys can download and install it through marketplace?
[Windows Phone 7 General] neevedr:
No, download de XAP and install it manualy
[Windows Phone 7 General] Phone Titan:
Seems to be working pretty well. Hopefully we will see the full version for everyone soon :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Oh yes, me too. I have it here. Thought it was released.

Anyone noticed the bug with chat auto scroll?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jesuslg123:
Anybody know how to close the apps!!?!?!?
[Windows Phone 7 General] josepmanel:
You have to click on the back button until you get to the home screen

Sent from my 7 Mozart using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] jesuslg123:
not valid... running jet, receive messages even....
[Windows Phone 7 General] fsnas:
Works perfectly on my HD7 (Mango)

Thanx man
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
settings --> flip the only toggle available (have not test this) but this should deregister for push.

Yes I also noticed the bug with autoscrolling and also auto selecting the textbox when scrolling up and down, I really hope they can give the app a little facelift bit since the functionality is great and the messaging is fast. Just the contact list clicking the jump letters is slow. But the design looks a bit cheap.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gremmmy:
Oke I found a few annoying bugs..

- You can’t talk in landscape mode

- When you added someone at your contacts, whatsapp doesn't add this person (you have to reinstall the app)

-scrolling lags from time to time

So far is the app much faster with texting then Kik messenger, so that's a relief.. (of course kik Messenger isn't made for mango yet )
[Windows Phone 7 General] madphone:
working great for me here!
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Selecting stuff while.scrolling has always been an issue cause touch sensitivity is very high in the ostensibly. Sometimes it registers attempts at inertial scrolling as taps, etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrAdelphi02:
Working perfectly!

Conformation code came within 10 secs...about 30 of my contacts are on whatsapp so very happy about this acquisition...lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] jesuslg123:
- When you added someone at your contacts, whatsapp doesn't add this person (you have to reinstall the app)

+1
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
We need to remember this IS a beta app, technically, so I'm hopeful that lagging - which no other mango app has - will be fixed. I still think Kik is a much better service and app, but WhatsApp is the cool kid on the block, so I'm stuck using it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] p3terr:
So this app will only work if using Mango??
[Windows Phone 7 General] weepatc:
This is a beta preview.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vash_h:
Yes, only mango.

Sent from my LG Optimus 7
[Windows Phone 7 General] Merkie:
Whatsapp has completely replaced text messaging for smartphone users in the Netherlands. Literally everyone uses it here. I don't know about the adoption rate in other countries, but releasing a smartphone not supported by Whatsapp = suicide here :eek: .
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
seems like it doesn't support landscape yet

the app doesn't rotate on a 7 pro, even if i slide my keyboard out
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Not many people around here know what WhatsApp is, nevermind care about it. Those apps are more popular in areas where MMS/SMS is overpriced. In the US almost everyone has Unlimited Texting which includes MMS as well.

The built-in WLM/Facebook is infinitely more useful here than WhatsApp will be.

BBM is very popular in areas like South Afrika and even in the UK for similar reasons (stated in first paragraph).

If you don't know anyone that lives overseas, there's literally no incentive to use Kik/WhatsApp over an IM protocol or FB, provided the messages are pushed to your device.

Tried WhatsApp many times. It's useless to me. People here hate it when you ask them to install yet another application to run in the background or ping their phone radio just to talk to you or very few people... Especially when you can just FB message, IM, or SMS them.

So, IM clients like BeeJiveIM and Trillian are more popular here.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
All of my friends here in Miami use it -.- anyway, it seems like it just added a new user for me, it might sync your list occasionally.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] motorboy-johnny:
Yesterday I deployed the beta app and today my phone tells me that there's an update of Whatsapp. Should be for the beta testers of course but this clearifies that the developers of whatsapp are making progress :D.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Whatsapp tends to create duplicate contacts in contact list, does it happen on WP too?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
yes if somebody has a home number and a mobile number in the people hub (if both are a cell phone number). But this makes sense, if somebody has 2 cellphones for example. Other than that, i have no replicated contacts.

Also there is no way to go back to the contacts list without restarting the app if you clicked on a toast. A button to return to the contact list would be nice.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
ok i'm getting missing messages now

they appear on the toast, but goes missing when i press on it and gets directed into the app itself
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Happens to me with Kik, that's odd.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Alcoholic:
This happens with KIK as well. What i do is open the app (kik) and wait for the message to update in the messages screen before i open the conversation. It takes about 3 seconds to get the message.

I also got an email from kik saying "Hey K,

Here are the messages that we were unable to deliver to your phone recently:"

They emailed me the messages that weren't delivered to my phone a week ago. :confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
I opened and waited for it to update but it didn't update. The latest bug I encountered was

1. Message comes in

2. I waited for a few minutes for it to appear, but it didn't. So I replied my friend first (saw the message on toast)

3. My message gets sent out. Friend's previous message the comes in. Appears under the reply sent prior to it
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
If you uninstall WhatsApp from one phone and install it on another it will still keep duplicate contacts. I swapped my Unlimited Data SIM to my HD7 and put the 200MB SIM in my Vibrant, and after registering the new number the people with WhatsApp all have contacts for me in their list.

You have to literally get in touch with them to get that other number out of their database.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Honestly, I don't get what's supposed to be so great about WhatsApp. I'm pretty much confused about how it works, as it shows contacts where I'm 100% sure they don't even have WhatsApp installed on their devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Its great everybody I know who has a smartphone uses it. Its great to keep in touch with people abroad, and has the advantage that its similar to sending normal text messages :) you dont really have to do anything, just add your phone number and you will automatically show up to all other who have your number on their phones. That is the big advantage compared to fb and kik. Facebook integration would have been better if it would allow the sending of offline messages quickly, but unfortunately both parties have to be online. With whatsapp it does not matter if you are online or not, you can send the message anyway just like text messaging.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
I will use it just because of some friends using it but to be fair it's not as good as Kik.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
WhatsApp is more reliable than Kik, easily. Message delivery is more consistently fast. It doesn't require user names either, so it's more convenient. Not many people actually think Kik > WhatsApp.
[Windows Phone 7 General] contable:
The app is cool ! Now I´m also connected with my iphone and android contacts.

What is not working so far:

1. landscape support

2. contacts refresh after adding a contact

3. download of recieved pictures

I´m downloading my recieved pictures with Windows Phone Power Tools to my desktop.

=> Install the What´s App xap with Windows Phone Power Tools 1.1 so you can see the app name instead of the GUID in the file browser

=> browse to shared folder. There you will find the sent pictures.

=> press get button and save the pictures to your desktop
[Windows Phone 7 General] Archange1:
It's the fact you dont have to manually add anyone to a contact list; it just crosschecks the numbers you have on your phone against the numbers it knows

Im just annoyed that all of a sudden, closed IMs are sprouting up all over the place...
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Yea, I'm suprised i.e. Samsung is developing yet another IM application, instead of integrating multi-protocol PUSH IM clients into their phones.

Kik, PingChat, tons of clients that require you to create yet another account to use existing IM services (Palringo, Fring, eBuddy, imo.im (though they changed that)). Then there's skype.

There's just too many. IM sucks these days because people are using way too many protocols, IMO. I guess that's another reason why Facebook has become so popular. The Chat eliminates one more hurdle to communication - the 100,000 IM Protocols and chat clients in use elsewhere. Since everyone (generally speaking) has a FB account, people are free to ignore the others.

Microsoft really should have developed a 1st party Android WLM client as well similar to the iOS client, with push support.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vash_h:
What I like about whatsapp, is d toast notification and live tile. Android users don't get any notifications on whatsapp.. :-D

Its still in beta bt it already rocks! If only there is an app to integrate them to wp7 will make it perfect, jst d way blackberry does.

Sent from my LG Optimus 7
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Lie more?

Android users get notifications in the notification bar, as well as an option for ios 4 style notifications.

Want screenshots?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
That's a bit of a silly statement, how do you think android users know they have a new message if there are no notifications? And although I like the live tiles, the notification system in wp7 is a bit rubbish as it forces you to pin apps to the start screen otherwise you totally miss all your toasts.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidLibido:
This only works for "developer" unlocked devices right?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I suppose he thinks the phone beeps once and that's it? Not sure where he'd come up with that...

A quick Bing Image Search brought this up (see notification bar):

Also supports the iOS-style pop-up notifications, and LED Notification light if exists.

EDIT: Found screenshot of the pop-up:

Biggest hurdle of this messenger is that it's tied to phone numbers. IM services you meet someone give them your screen name and that's it. For this, you have to give your phone numbers. That can be creepy at times. They should have developed a PIN/barcode system like Blackberry (but without infringing on patents :P ).

Also need to make the SD flags a bit more obvious. The arrows... They're a bit vague IMO and if someone has pop-up notifications turned on, it will always instantly show up as Delivered and Read because it popped up on the screen. Even if their phone is in the car and they're in the mall shopping...

On Andorid I find clients IM like Beejive and Trillian to be superior because some of them can send a message to whatever service the person is on, don't require dishing out your number. In the case of BeejiveIM, you can still group chat and send Voice/Picture/Video/Location attachments. I have found Push Notifications for BeejiveIM as well as message delivery to be more reliable than WhatsApp, as well. The push notification, especially, are twice as fast if not faster than WhatApp in some instances, IME. WhatsApp has had times where it hickup'd and failed to send messages (or deliver them) for several minutes to sometimes hours. Lots of people have mentioned that in the reviews, so it's not an isolated incident.

It's cheaper than BeejiveIM up front, though...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Microsoft definitely needs to rethink notifications, I don't want to have to pin an app just so I don't miss a toast, that's a bit ridiculous. The way Android does it is great but I still think the way it's done in Meego would be better suited to WP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
All they have to do is add another pane to the oeft of the Home screen and make it a Notification screen. Similar to the Me Hub, but for stuff that isn't Social Updates. That way, you don't have to jump from App to App to see everything. It's right there...

So it would be:

Notifications || Home/Tiles || App List

Another idea would be to allow us to scroll down on the home screen and a Notification Cache can pop out (half screen size would be decent). So when you're to the top of the Home Screen and scroll down it would pop down:

Notifications

------------

------------

Home/Tiles

OR! Simply make it a sort of a mini-hub. With Multi-Tasking/Fast Switching, that would work just fine. At least that way they will all be in a centrallized locations.

Really, there's a lot of decent things they can do with it. It just strikes me as odd that they left the notification system in this state in Mango...
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
There is always the Notification screen in the Me "Hub." They could always just update that to allow stuff other than Facebook, Twitter, and Linked In.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
That's too buried. It suffers from the same issues as Live Tiles. There should be one VERY fast way to get to them. You shouldn't have to navigate through the Me Hub to get to them. The mini hub idea I put in there is basically just a screen with all your notifications on it. You click it and there they are. Notifications cache... NOTHING ELSE.

If you don't use Android a lot and especially if you haven't use Blackberry (which IMO has a better and more comprehensive Notification system than Android, by far), then I can see how it can be hard to understand how much of an issue this is.

I wonder if the people at Microsoft actually use the phones their company gave to them, cause if they did I'd have expected this **** to be fixed in Mango... It's unacceptable, especially for a phone that was supposed to simplify out mobile experience. We go from seeing everything in a simple dropdown on one OS to jumping in and out of potentially a dozen or more apps to see notifications in this one? Seriously?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Loki1973:
As I suggested earlier to MS they should build a notification screen as a right-swipe from the Start menu. If there are notifications the phone should show the notification screen instead of the start menu after unlocking your phone.

But hey, nobody ever listens to me... ;)

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The People Hub is stupid, because it "connects" all the accounts you use to your primary Live account (the one used when you set up the phone).

Since I can connect multiple WP7 devices (for Marketplace purchases) to that Live account, my wife also gets my social updates, and if she changes them, I get hers....

Not very useful if you ask me...