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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I just got the Samsung Epic Touch 4G and the call quality is MUCH better but the EVO 3D has faster data speeds. I had the EVO 3D for about 2 plus months.

Some of these things are just my opinion of course so some may have another view:

Epic Touch 4G - Pros

1. Significantly better voice quality

2. So far no dropped calls (I'll update if this changes).

3. The screen is much more vibrant but the resolution difference is kind of noticeable so in some cases I find the EVO 3D better and in some situations I prefer the ET4G.

4. Accurately shows number of unread messages in email on exchange all the time

5. Larger screen

6. Lighter

7. Slimmer

8. Blacks are extremely good - you can switch it to Movie mode if you find the colors oversaturated.

9. Contacts show easier - IMHO

10. Better speaker quality or just louder

11. Better camera - pictures are much crisper.

12. Vlingo integrated nicely so it accurately dials by name - when adding Vlingo to the 3D I had to touch the screen to use Vlingo - not so with the ET4G.

13. Better viewing angles for screen - easier to read even when not perfectly parallel with your eyes.

Epic Touch 4G - Cons

1. TouchWiz not as good in most ways as Sense IMHO

2. Lock screen seems to require more of a swipe to clear.

3. I prefer the wallpapers on the EVO 3D (insignificant I realize).

4. I prefer the news and weather widgets on the EVO 3D (not terribly important either).

5. It seems just a little slower to charge although neither is fast even when charging via AC.

6. Slower data speeds than the 3D.

7. For some reason when you press the voice mail icon it goes to speaker even if you have BT enabled. (Samsung is aware of the issue and working on a fix)

EVO 3D - Pros

1. The data on the EVO 3D is much faster than the ET4G

2. The screen has a higher resolution but isn't as vibrant so in some cases I find the EVO 3D better and in some situations I prefer the ET4G

3. I find rearranging icons easier with Sense than TouchWiz. In general I prefer most things about Sense.

4. I prefer the IM format on the E3D - can't say definitevely it is better - just a preference.

EVO 3D – Cons

1. Horrible voice quality

2. Dropped calls

3. Doesn't accurately indicate number of unread messages on Exchange mailboxes.

4. Smaller Screen

5. Voice dial not at all accurate.

OTHER

I don't really notice much difference in speed between the two - some say they notice a big difference and claim the Epic Touch 4G is much faster/smoother- I don't notice that at all.

If it wasn't for the crappy call quality and dropped calls/signal issues on the EVO 3D I would have been happy to have stuck with the EVO 3D.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zzim:
I see a lot of people who like the look of other screens and I cant figure out why. I don't think any other screen even comes close to the quality of Samsung SAMOLED and the SAMOLED+. My friend has the EVO 3D and imo my Epic 4G looked 10x better in every scenario. Now that I have the SAMOLED+ in my Epic Touch 4G the screen is even better......and bigger I still cant get over how much better it looks in comparison to qHD screens or any other screen for that matter.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I would say when I'm looking at tiny print I notice the difference in resolution. I'd say in most cases I prefer the larger and richer screen of the ET4G. Some things of course are a matter of opinion so I wouldn't fault someone for saying at times they prefer one or the other.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mlin:
Thanks for the honest comparison. I spent some time with the ET4G and can say a agree with all of your points. The screen of the ET4G is absolutely beautiful and obviously more vibrant than that of the E3D, however, occasionally the lower pixel density becomes noticeable. Anyone who says the ET4G is noticeably faster than the E3D is lying, though the ET4G is noticeably smoother.

Your comment about data speeds is what concerns me most about the ET4G. My voice and data on my E3D is the best I've ever had. However, my NS4G and my wife's Epic both have worse data and voice than my 3D; your lower data speeds seem to indicate that Samsung perhaps hasn't worked out their various issues with signal strength- my biggest concern about their phones. Anyhoo, thanks again for the comparison.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmireles03:
Id love to see the lastest Sense installed on the epic touch. Maybe someone will make it happen. I wouldnt surprise me at all, these guys do some amazing things!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I enjoyed comparing the two. I don't know what you are coming from that your E3D is the best you've had, my old htc vogue had much better voice quality than my E3d (I exchanged it twice in different places an all were bad). The ET4G is better than my 3d for voice quite noticably. I have been continuing my tests on data and I will say it is still slower than the E3D. Some people are getting great speeds on their ET4G - I can only compare what I got on my old E3D vs. my new ET4G and it is about 35% slower on average at my home.

I forgot to mention that for whatever reason I prefer the IM on the E3D as well.

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In nearly every way I prefer sense but I would only go back to it if it was finally accurate for number of unread messages - that was a huge issue for me with the e3d. I had 3 of them and everyone I know with one has the same issue for it not reporting the correct number of unread messages if your email account is on an exchange server.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Great for the honest review.

The photon was no doubt faster feeling than the evo, the epic is noticeably faster than the photon. I owned the photon for a month and was prone to lag and not as speedy. Trying to lag this epic touch down I really can't. But I guess one would have to do certain things on a phone or care more to realize it.

Welcome aboard(:

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Just got my GSII this morning. I'm going to be doing a bunch of side by side comparisons, and post screen shots comparing camera quality and different things, so I'll be reporting back for those who are still undecided on which device to get. Just have to play with the GSII some first...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
ahhhh...so u did switch, after arguing with me for 2 days. lol.

its all love tho, hope you enjoy it. I love it 100 times more than the 3d
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I don't use the camera much but so far the pictures on the ET4G is significantly better. I probably should mention it - the camera isn't important to me so I skipped that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] comedy:
2 days ago, when i went to the Sprint store, I went in wanting the Evo 3D.

& came out with the Epic 4g Touch.

it feels better, slimmer, larger screen, lighter (i think).

and also, the whole "3d" scheme for the Evo didnt seem very 3D at all, to be honest it actually gave me a headache looking at the 3D pics/videos.

it looked exactly like when you're watching a 3D movie & you take the glasses off, i even asked the guy "do i need 3D glasses to see this?" i was totally serious too.

in the end 4g Touch > Evo 3d

just my $0.02
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Product F(RED):
That's because some people are physically incapable of seeing 3D, and you may be one of them. Scientific fact.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
I didn't switch. I've got em both up and running brother. I guess you were to busy arguing to read where I posted way back then that I'd be getting the GSII because I am the GadgetMonger! :p It's all about the gadgets to me man. I love technology. That's why I want to put together some honest comparisons between these two bad boys and see what's what. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jake21:
Post where ? This thread ? Another thread ? I'm obviously still shopping. I've already decided against the ev3d; but photon and gsii seem neck in neck with photon better in some area and gs2 in others (this is from product research and a few hours in the store; i have not own either phone). Can you be sure to test both phones with ear phones or external speakers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
I'll start a thread here and I'll post a link to it in the 3d thread. Sorry, don't have a photon so... It's just going to be GSII and Evo 3D. And yes. I'll definitely be testing all aspects of both phones that I can think of plus any requested tests I may receive.

I may even throw the OG EVO into the mix... Just for ****s and giggles. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blinkSS:
Same here, i'd love to see that ha.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] comedy:
Hmm, very interesting .. Although ive watched 3D movies without any problem, course with the glasses ..

it'd be interesting to see if wearing the real 3d glasses would help with the evo at all lol

or like you said, maybe im just part of the cant see 3D on the Evo club lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajones42:
The 3d on the evo is really nice. That is, after you have owned it and understand it. Does any one know if touch wiz can tag facebook photos?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digweed4me:
I had evo 3d for almost 20days I can say everything on epic 4G trumps evo 3d. Even on screen 3d has higher resolution but can't compare with super amoled. Epic 4G is like 5times faster than evo 3d speed is night and day different.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Product F(RED):
Epic 4G or Epic 4G Touch?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leaddog007:
Thanks Boe for the comparisons. IMO, what we are buying is a phone with a whole lot additional features. But, if the essential part is not good, as in horrible voice quality, then I think the E4GT is the phone of choice.

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I have a rooted EVO and I have just finished my 2 yr contract. I am looking for a new phone. I have seen the Photon and the E3D and I love the 3D on the Evo. For me, it stands out and is mind boggling. I really thought I could capture one of the rocks in the photo. Yet, the Epic 4G Touch has been reviewed by many as the better phone and today I saw that it has been successfully rooted. So, I am very much inclined to go in for the Epic 4G Touch and root the thing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bigjim1488:
I really do think most people mix the speed of the phone with the smoothness. Do I notice the ET being faster then the evo in normal use not counting emulator games no. But the ET is as smooth as butter in everything I do with it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Touch has been reviewed by many as the better phone and today I saw that it has been successfully rooted. So, I am very much inclined to go in for the Epic 4G Touch and root the thing.[/QUOTE]

I am receiving my Epic 4G Touch today. As far as root, looking through the root thread it seems like some people are still having issues so I think I will hold off on rooting it for now.

I owned the EVO 4G from the day it came out. Then upgraded to the EVO 3D the day it was released. I sold my 3D last week to get the Epic. I was not that impressed with the EVO 3D. It just lacked the excitement I was expecting out of it. 3D was cool at first but didn't touch it after a few weeks. Also, I thought I was going to be blown away by the QHD SLCD display but it did not look much better then me EVO 4G. There was just no wow factor in the display at all and the screen actually looks like it housed far down under the glass which made it look dated. Also didn't like the narrowness of the screen and it made 4.3" seems smaller then it really was.

Anyway, looking forward to the EPIC and will post back with first impressions after being a 3D owner....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I'm looking forward to more reviews. I understand somethings I posted are very subjective so i've tried to make those clear they were just my opinion.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
You're gonna freak.

Trust me.

If you're not totally fired up, then get fired up. Because... once again:

You're gonna freak.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
+1 every time I pull this ***** out my pocket I'm amazed

sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tyie101:
I'm not gonna go there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I just added the VLINGO in my list of pros - I was not sure about it after trying it on the 3D. You can voice dial and use google native but I never found that accurate on my EVO 3D. I installed VLINGO on my evo 3d and while it was much much more accurate for voice dial, it always had me pressing the screen to confirm or initiate for some reason this one doesn't require that.

I'm thrilled to have a voice dial program that works well on the ET4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] linzgeneral:
I actually think my 3D is faster than my Epic touch. I agree with your assessment by the way.

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Bing Bng Bing! You are absolutely right. The first thing I thought after using the Epic Touch for a day was where is the speed everyone is talking about. I wasn't trying to compare, it just jumped out at me that there was absolutely no difference in speed in everyday tasks; if anything the 3D was faster by ever so much. The smoothness is another story as the Epic Touch is indeed smoother. Anyone claiming the Epic touch is much faster than the 3D is either dillusional or is talking about another aspect. I can understand slightly faster due to varying perceptions but certainly not much faster. The Epic Touch is very fast but remember you are comparing it to a rival processor not the old EVO4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xenokc:
I had an EVO 4G, not 3D but was comparing to a couple guys at work who have a 3D. The screen on Touch is incredible in comparison. The deep black and popping colors. Can see the backlighting on 3D. Touch has not just deep blacks, but the pixels are literally off. EVO shows off its backlight for blacks and the colors are washed out.

I don't really see any difference in performance. Both are crazy fast.

Every Sprint phone I had would drop a call when reaching the bottom of elevator in my condo to get to garage, including EVO 4G (don't know about 3D). The Touch is the only phone I've had that keeps the call all the way down elevator to getting into car. That alone is worth it to me. BTW, ATT users in my building can't use their phone at all in our elevators.

Only thing I don't like about the Touch is that it charges more slowing than my EVO and the WiFi receiver is weaker.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
id say they are equivalent with launching tasks. but yes, in terms of smoothness and graphics, the epic touch has the evo 3d beat by a mile. The GPU in the exynos is an animal compared to adreno, even thought the adreno 220 should perform better according to specs
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
Thanks for the review. I don't use the wifi much but I have heard it is weaker as you say. Congrats on getting a phone that works in your elevator. Some people might not consider that a big deal but it is for me as I'm often taking or making a call when leaving a client or meeting.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
So now that you've had some time to test the phone what are your thoughts?[/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] james33440:
I have the Evo 3d and just ordered the new Epic 4g Touch. Can't wait to try it out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hanson68:
Has anyone played with the camera yet? There are a plethora of shooting adjustments, and you can shortcut to four of them in the dock area. And it has a double detent shutter -- press and hold for autofocus, and the picture snaps when you lift off your finger. It's a touch version of a two step shutter button.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cary328is:
I absolutely love the camera. I had an old Samsung point and shoot and I'm so glad samsung leveraged their experience with making cameras and put the same features and technologies in their phone
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ckoadiyn:
Thanks for the honest opinions everyone and thanks to everyone keeping the flamming to zero
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mrdiaz09:
I have a 3d now and after reading these I want an epic touch 4g, if someone knows some way for me to get one without paying full retail please let me know.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] r3a1ist:
I never signed on to wanting an Evo 3D. You can't compare these two phones. You shouldn't even compare the ET4G to the International GS II because it's hardware is identical except the ET4g has a 4.52 inch screen and notification lighting. THIS IS THE BEST GALAXY S II THE WORLD HAS AND WILL EVER SEE. Do not compare your cheesy previous phones to this monster. Just bow to the king. What? What? U want to bench it out? Run all your previous phones together as one device, I'll still smoke you. ET4G cannot be touched and will not be touched. It is up to you whether you want to be a smart consumer and know what electronic products deserve your business. The Evo 3D sorry to say did not. The natural progression was Evo 4G then ET4G. Truly worthy timeless classics and powerhouses of their time. <--------that's a period.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
Yeah this phone is pretty badass. I came from the evo 3d as well. I think Sense looks cleaner than touchwiz but overall i like touchwiz. The hardware acceleration on this phone is awesome, everything is buttery smoothe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] james33440:
I like Sense as well. However, I honestly don't use it too much. I have been using ADW Launcher EX.

Once I receive my E4GT, I may try Touchwiz for awhile.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BlueGoldAce:
Spoken perfectly
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] czm2000:
To OP. Just a quick tip. You can create a quick short cut for starting the original Vlingo on most any Android phone simply by holding down the Search button and then making Vlingo the default app.

Sent from my GS2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
Thanks for the tip! Any guess on how to speed up VLINGO in asking me what I want to do - not telling me how many missed calls I have? I always just want to immediately say call so and so when I press the button on my BT headset. I don't want to use it to check my calendar, I don't need to know about missed calls. I used MS Voice command for two things to show or call. I used show occassionally if I needed to look up someones address.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
man..u stole every single word on this topic right out of my mouth. awesome write up!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ckoadiyn:
I have to say I just went to sprint and looked at this phone was very impressed I was worried about the whites looking yellow like they do on nexus and epic but it looked really good still hate touch wiz layout tho. deff a smooth phone this phone has gave me hope for the prime assuming it comes to sprint and the big screen was actually nice
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] james33440:
I never actually liked Touchwiz either but I'm going to try it when I get the phone. I may end up using either ADW Launcher EX or Go Launcher EX.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
I loaded ADW on my phone today. Also tried Launcher EX the other day. I must say these launchers definitley run smoother on the SGS2 then they did on the EVO 3D.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fishpony:
I don't understand how anyone can say the epic touch's screen is better than the 3d. To me the 3d blows away the original EVO and is even better than the epic touch. The screen on the touch was was over saturated and has horrible colors. Just opening the Facebook app on a 3d and touch side by side made me realize that. And the resolution looked much better on the 3d. Running quadrant on each of the phones and the colors and rainbow effect looked horrible on the ET. Plus touchwiz to me seemed like a toy compared to sense, which I'm not even a fan of. I liked how slim and fast the phone was but not much else. My buddy loves it tho, But this is his first smartphone.

Also, although the blacks look good the whites look horrible to me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tinybfk:
+1 lol

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Luthien1:
ok, ive had both phones evo 3d and epic touch 4g.... i returned my epic touch 4g for these reasons.. would overheat at times, with tasks, it would charge on too high temp and i had two epics, one returned to varify. The epic touch 4g doesnt have text mapping, so if you go to webpage and double tap it barely focuses in, where the evo 3d completely mapps all the text to fit the screen... That is a huge deal and almost a deal breaker in and of itself. the evo 3d is 3d capable, which epic touch 4g isnt... and 3d is expanding everyday, so its future proof. epic touch 4g has cheap build quality and resolution sucks ass....Also to end all this, the GPU adreno 220 is a better GPU if you care about gaming.. duh everyone cares about gaming...Sorry folks i had both, and i returned my epic touch 4g because of these reasons...and i believe the evo 3d is the more capable better rounded device... Now, the lastly, the epic touch is not capable of rev b upgrade so data speeds will stay same, where evo 3d has a newer chip to get the updated date speeds.. EPic touch 4g is a epic fail..... evo 3d is the king of all superphones until quad core evo comes out that is 3d capable
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BlueGoldAce:
I doubt you had the phone, sounds like your trolling. But maybe you are not.

I have both devices.

Did you read andandtech? Read it, what does it say? Your wrong, the adreno 220 isn't close to the mal 400 when you considering gaming ON ANDROID.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined

If your worried about text remapping, get a third party browser. Not hard to do...

Do you really think the browser is better on the 3d? Open both devices to phonedog's website, and let them load. Now try to pinch-zoom both...the 3d will stutter like hell with the stock browser...while the epic touch will be silky smooth.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mlin:
Source?

grossly inaccurate statements like these eliminate all credibility off the bat.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
All it takes is somebody having a lazy eye.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mlin:
I guess I was more curious about people that don't have a known deficiency of vision but still can't see 3D images. I'm sure blind people can't see 3D either.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tinybfk:
Mine re maps text just fine it was in the browser settings... And my evo3d heated up way more than my epic touch...

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Success100:
Ok this has TROLL written all over it. Kick rocks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GadgetMonger:
Good points. Ive been running both for a week now as well. While neither phone has over heated for me the resolution on the GSII did start to get to me after a bit, especially text within the browser. I suppose if I wasnt going back and forth between the two I may not have noticed it as much. Both are good devices, although the 3g speeds on the GSII were a bit slower it wasnt really noticeable in daily use. I do agree that there is much more to come in the 3D arena and I like that feature for sure. Cameras, batt life, multi tasking are all comparable as well as call quality and signal strenth so.... unless the wife decides she wants it ,it's going back. Id rather save the upgrade to try out the prime.

Attached a couple of pics for comparason. Pretty equal if you ask me. Epic may have a slight edge, but hey... it does have the 8mp camera. It cant take a 3D pic either though so...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Luthien1:
I'm not trolling. I'm stating facts. Both are the best and great devices sorry about the king statement just mad about no rev b
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KING SKILLZ:
I must be one of those individuals that could not focus in on the 3d feature of the evo3d. I tried to like it due to the fact I had the evo4g since it's launch and was ready for an upgrade, but I felt the 3d feature was gimmicky at best, and the root for it at that time disabled 4g service, also didn't like the plastic at the top, i prefer the sheet of glass covering the the phone like the evo4g. For me this is the proper upgrade coming from the evo4g, the slimness, lightness, and larger screen makes it feel more like an evo4g-2 than an epic upgrade.