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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xTRICKYxx:
Why Windows 8 WILL Run.

Back in February and May, 2011, There were several demos of Windows 8 and IE10 (with Windows 8) running on non other than the Tegra 2 (seriously). The minimu requirements for x86 for Windows 8 are 512MB of RAM and a 1Ghz single core processor. The Tegra 2 is a 1Ghz dual-core and we have 1GB of RAM and 16GB of Flash Memory. Now installing Windows 8 on my i7 laptop, took 15GB of space for the installation... Yikes.

The demo back in February and May was wicked fluid and they did claim it was on the Tegra 2.

The big worry is that MS only supports architecture for A9 and up, leaving us in the dust.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speckledpig:
Why is that a "worry"? The TF101 was designed for Honeycomb and nothing more. That's like saying that I'm disappointed because my 2 year old HTC Rhodium probably won't be able to run Ice Cream Sandwich (even though I'm running Froyo on it with great results).

I like Honeycomb; I need for google to make it better, but I'm not ready to jump ship just yet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] id10terrordfw:
In reference to architecture, a virtualization strategy, much like the dalvik system in android, may actually assist with cross platform compatibility. I am not saying windows 8 will have that, but with the sheer power that even near future SoC's will offer it is a realistic solution to the problem.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SwiftLegend:
The TF is an ARM device, once the ARM version is finished, we may be able to port it for us. By that time, the TF 2 will probably be out sooo....

Anyways, has anyone seen that Samsung Series 7 tab? It's BEAST, i5 2467M...too bad it's starting price is $1,000 lol.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] earlyberd:
That assumes users are going to continue to use a lot of legacy x86 applications in the near future, in spite of there being a lot of good quality ARM-based replacements available or currently in development. In my years in IT, there has only been one application so far that users consistently complain about not having on their tablets and phones; Microsoft Office. Since Apple has released iWork for mobile, Google is presumably working on a Honeycomb-optimized Google Docs, and Microsoft has hinted that there will be a new version of Office tailored for Metro, then I can't name many users off the top of my head that would have much use for virtualized apps.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SparkyRih:
I alwys wanted a Windows (7) tablet, but now I've used Android on tablet devices, I see a need for Windows anymore on these devices...

IF our TF does get a Windows 8 mod, I will try it for sure... but I don't think Windows can beat Android in this market...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deaf Mute:
In all likelyhood it will be possible to run Windows 8 on existing Android Tablets. That is assuming that the x86/64 minimal requirements translates to the ARM version (that would require 16gb models to have an SD card installed for additional memory) We will just have to wait and see what the ARM version brings.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DilloDroid:
Usually the min requirementsfrom Microsoft are just that. Bare min it will run on.

Everyone here talks kal el but the facts are they were passed up for even ICS development

If you read better things are on the horizon and IMHO us who already have a Tegra 2 would be better off waiting for a OMAP or Qualcomm next generation processor due out next year. I hear the duo cores with the thinner chips should blow the Kal el's away.

Upgrade like you mean it. No use in half stepping:D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bjd223:
Win7 minimum requirements were not the bare minimum this time around. There are people that got Win7 running on really slow boxes and it worked pretty well. Like Pentium 3/4's with 512 Mb ram or lower.

One fellow even got Win8 running on a box with 256 MB ram. Its slow obviously but it does work.

Just because new hardware is coming out every day doesn't mean you have to buy new hardware to run software. As long as they include tegra2 support it will run fine, because it runs fine on a 1 GHz single core cpus.

Plus me being not the average TF owner have a 1.68GHz overclock. Also I'd rather run an OS with true multi-tasking (ie a windowing system) so the dualcore cpu is really used to its fullest potential.

I'd really like to see what this nvidia GPU in tegra can do as Android games don't really seem to push it to the limits.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isolated_epidemic:
My two cents... who cares...

If and when Windows 8 is ported to the Transformer, what would you do with it? They've already said that there won't be any compatibility with x86 apps, so what would you do? Minesweeper and IE10? Thats about all you could do until the development gets rolling on ARM based apps for Windows and by the time that boat sails the Transformer 3 or 4 will be out. Are you still going to be rocking a TF101 then? What could be so important about a Windows installation that you would want to halve your battery life and cut your available app options from 600,000 to a few dozen? I say it's about time we left Windows in the 20th century where it belongs. No amount of redesign is going to hide the fact that Microsoft's best years are long behind it. Bill Gates realized it, why can't the rest of the world?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amtrakcn:
I'm not sure if Windows 8 would provide any installtion distribution but I'm pretty sure it will be sluggish for Tegra2 to handle Win8.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Igoritza:
so, is there a conclusion .. is the ARM version of the Windows8 going to be possible on Transformer ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raine369:
rumor from several sources

considering the rumors that have been out for months, including this from PC World website:

The Eee Pad Transformer seems like a perfect fit for Microsoft's Windows 8 intentions. The operating system will have a tile-based interface designed for touch-screens, with apps created in HTML 5 and Javascript. The interface will be navigated with finger swipes, and users will be able to drag apps in from the bezel and run two apps side-by-side.

But beneath that touch-based UI will be plain old Windows, with apps and an interface that are best-suited for a mouse and keyboard. That's where a device like the Eee Pad Transformer will be useful. Its trackpad and physical keyboard will allow users to run legacy apps and get some work done, while the detachable tablet will allow for more leisurely uses, such as surfing the web or reading e-books.

I don't really think there will be any issues about hardware compatibility or even available apps.

As an IT tech for a company that has to adhere to HIPAA regulations a Windows based tablet that takes full advantage of Touch technology would a godsend. I love my Transformer, but I can't use it to access web (ie) based apps that we use.

I'm even considering trying to build my own windows 8 tablet based on ExtremTech's instructions, if I can find a cheap used windows 7 tablet on ebay.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyz:
Interesting discussion.

I am also looking forward to a tablet with full windows functionality.

Even though, I couldn't understand most of the tech stuffs that was being discussed here. But the main point of discussion revolves around to only the technical aspect on, whether Win 8 will/will not be available for tablet". Of course, this is XDA. hehe

What about viewing this from a business point of view, why would MS not want to develop Win 8 to be compatible with the tablet? Afterall MS is a profit earning organisation, market share and bottom line are their most important concerns. From this point of view, I can't seem to think of any reason.

Both the PC and mobile phones segments are already saturated. Almost every family owns a PC or laptop, with some even having more than 1. Likewise for mobile phones. PC is being dominated by MS, while the mobile phone are being dominated by both iOS and Android.

Now there's only left with the tablet segment, where it's still not saturated. I think MS will do whatever it needs to be done or rather, must do to get a stronghold in the tablet market. I am looking forward to MS releasing the Win 8 for free to tablet users. Really, there's no point to charge, when Android was released for free. Or maybe the fees will be insignificant and will be absorbed by the manufacturers.

Cross compatibilty of apps in Win 8 PC and tablets is a must. Android saw the importance, which is why the upcoming ICS, apps will be written to be compatible on both tablets and mobile phone. MS has a slight advantage, as they already had almost all the program developers developing programs for PC. Full windows experience, be it on PC or tablets, would be the winning factor. On top of developing a 32 and 64 bits program for Windows, I don't think why these developers would not want to develop another 1 for tablets. I don't think these program developers just can't underestimate the dominance of MS in the PC segment, especially when the both PC and tablets' Win 8 are going to be similar.

Apple started with PC, but they couldn't penetrate much into the PC segment. They then started their odyssey by penetrating into the already saturated mobile phones market and managed to penetrated into successfully. They now continue to penetrate the tablets and PC segment.

Google also started with Android in mobile phone segment. They were successful and now they continue to penetrate into tablet segment. PC would be next.

The is the battle for middle earth. If MS can't make use of their dominance in the PC segment to get a stronghold in the tablets segment, it would be a slippery slope for them. They had failed with Win mobile, where it only received lukewarm response. It's a battle for survival, in order to protect their market share in the PC segment and penetrate into mobile phone segment.

Finally, IMHO, if MS want Win 8 to run on tablets, they will get it sorted out by hook or by crook. We don't have to worry too much about that.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
but I don't belive the asus or any other model will give drivers and full installations for old tabs

when windows 8 came, they would sell it new tabs with that system....they don't want lose money
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ouya:
android vs windows 8

My guess is sadly if it hasnt been done by now (developers build out there) it wont happen at all probably

So I was thinking about the tf101 cos I think its just a great device , but the lack of a good office suite in the market makes me wish to use this device with Windows 8 (its mainly supposed to be for work).

I am also thinking of the Acer W500 which already comes with Windows 7 and runs windows 8 perfectly, but the keyboard - design of the tf101 i like much more.

So we will probably have to wait for a new device by Asus ? And here in Spain it usually takes AGES til we get products that are out elsewhere already :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raffelo:
Asus announced a new Asus Prime Windows Capable before the end of the year

Next version will be out next march 3G capable
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raffelo:
Windows 8 running in transformer

What about the drivers issue?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diazz72:
Any TUT how to install WIN 8 on EEE Pad (TF101-A1)?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kafluke:
Windows 8 Release Preview (final version before release) is out today so hopefully an ARM version will be available soon. I'm sure it will happen. Many said that XBMC won't run on the ASUS Transformer and that's been done (natively at that).

I guess you can "test" Windows 7 on your table by using the onlive app. It's not native buy hey! Why not play?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thing O Doom:
I think if you popped it on there with an oc kernel, as long as it's completely ARM based it will work perfectly on the tf. Might lag to ********

but it'd work!

As soon as an ARM version comes out I'll be trying to put it on the tf. xD
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjlim:
I don't anticipate it being possible to run Win8 on the tf101.

/!\ warning; the following post is speculation and opinion /!\

It's unlikely that Windows 8 ARM will be available except preinstalled on devices; unlike PCs, the installation would be different for and specific to each device. So if we assume that is the case;

Windows 8 will probably come on a device with only the drivers necessary for that specific device. You could cite space constraints on that. Why would drivers for any other device be included?

Secondly, building a kernel specifically for the transformer is not going to happen. Why? The Windows kernel is not open source. obviously current kernels we have won't help, because they are Linux.

That last point is probably the biggest reason why we won't see it happening. Not having the source severely limits what can be done.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for this.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thing O Doom:
See I think on the contrary, that a (WARNING OPINION) Greedy (/end) company like Microsoft would try their best to release a Universal version for ARM, at least I hope.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjlim:
I'm not sure that's possible.

This is only a loosely related example, but look at CM9 or AOKP, or any of those other roms which support several devices. If it were possible to have a 'universal arm' version which could support those devices, wouldn't they be doing that instead of having a different build for each device?
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Hello as the question says does anyone know

how to downgrade from 2.3.5 cyan to 2.1 stock???

Its cause i need a warranty cause sometimes my phone just

shuts down and other problems!!

Thank you

(Sorry if this was already posted, could anyone give me the link

if it is?)
[GT540 Optimus General] jhonnyx1000:
KDZ

You could use KDZ updater and flash a stock ROM. Could you explain the problem more in detail please?
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Also cause I want 2.1 stock just in case my phone stuffs up cause soon it will!!

Also can u explain how to do more clearly!!!

Thank you!!

Goππa ®o©k & ®o//
[GT540 Optimus General] -Grift-:
i think the best way is to flash a 2.1 rom thru fastboot im sure there is fastboot stock rom somewhere:P after that use mur4ik's custom bootloader builder to erase fastboot and recovery.

edit: found one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1029459
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
thanks!!!

but i was told from someone that if you

do it that way the phone wont turn on

in some cases!:)
[GT540 Optimus General] JotaJgreen:
I recommend you that you must be sure that this downgrade would be effect, beecause when you flash your device, the memory is modificated and its too hard to unmake this canges....

If you do it, can you tell us if the downgrade its result (you recovered your warranty)?
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Can't i just flash 2.3.5 again after my warranty??
[GT540 Optimus General] effortless.:
I'm sorry but you keep bringing this up and I have answered it numerous times. I told you here how to do it before.

Here it is again.

And yes, you can.
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Yeahh but I tried that method and for some reason nothing happened!!

Goππa ®o©k & ®o//
[GT540 Optimus General] Danzano:
Effortless has given clear instructions can't see how you got it wrong? try again maybe? and make sure cmd kdz etc are all run as the administrator :)
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
i think the problem is that the computer

can;t read the phone when i connect it!
[GT540 Optimus General] Man_u:
have you install all drivers (mainly fastboot) ?

More details please :)
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Yes I have!!!!

But its ok I will just buy a new cable to see if that's the problem!!

Thanks for all ur help!!!

Goππa ®o©k & ®o//
[GT540 Optimus General] pcfighter:
Yep, disable lg modem on Hardware Manager and don't forget to make full wipe on recovery.
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
could i flash 2.1 stock via recovery

and then remove fastboot and recovery

by Swiftbootloader???
[GT540 Optimus General] Man_u:
I think is possible
[GT540 Optimus General] nhanngoctien:
u use recovery to downgrade, search in the 4rum
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Would it work if I flash by recovery then just unroot to remove fastboot and recovery???
[GT540 Optimus General] effortless.:
When unrooting, you don't remove fastboot and recovery. To remove fastboot and recovery, use the guide I posted above.
[GT540 Optimus General] androidboss7:
Alright thanks!!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
i'm stuck in a boot loop after updating my phone to the latest nightlie of cm7 (fascinatemtd 35.zip) and can't boot into recovery neither...what can i do?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skynet11:
1. Download Android SDK onto your PC, install on c: (root directory)

2. Connect phone to PC

3. Open command prompt on PC

4. Navigate (within command prompt) to c:\AndroidSDK\AndroidSDK-Windows\platform_tools\

5. Boot phone

6. While in bootloop, type "adb reboot recovery" in command prompt

7. Your phone should now be in the proper mtd recovery

8. Profit

Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
ok thank you,i'll try it! keep in touch so i can tell you if i have some problems...
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
and waht should i do after getting to recovery? i tryed everything bur nothing happend!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xwhofarted:
1) try flashing a different kernel

or

2) wipe factory, wipe cache and Dalvik then reinstall CM7 35.zip

they are your best options or flash JTs VanGB rom

Good Luck!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
i allready done it but nothing! wipe cache/data/dalvik and when i do the "install from sd card" and chose the zip ist show me like everything going well but getting into boot loop again...another option???
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efan450:
If you did that already and you still get a boot loop, my guess was your original download was corrupt..try re- downloading cm7 and flash again
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
ok thank dude but,n sry for the question,how do i flash another rom without putting it in? cuz' i can't get inside in my situation...
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efan450:
Can you get into download mode? If so all you have to do is Odin eb01 with the atlas 2.2 pit file with repartition checked and when Odin is done reboot it, then you can try installing

cm7 again...I'll edit the post in a minute with some links

Ebo1 froyo tar...

http://www.multiupload.com/ZLPQAS8JA0

Atlas 2.2 pit file...

http://www.mediafire.com/?31u1g1ef05jvebd

Read the OP of this post..it will have all necessary links and instructions..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1124391
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
ok thank you alot i'll try it too. and something that may help you: I can get into cwm4 recovery mod but get some strange popups everytime (E: can't mount /cache/recovery/command and that stuff...) and i tried install others zip files (i put them inside my sd card using another phone) but allways failed... tell you something?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efan450:
I thought you were boot looping? If you can get into recovery how are you doing so? three finger method? I ask because that will cause you problems
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liorgex:
yea i was i boot looping but when I take my battery off, I can turn it on with the three finger method and...

but thank you all so much! finally i fix my phone (and now i'm try to restore everything and root it again...) thank you very much!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efan450:
Glad to hear its running again,I think that's why you got all those errors when in recovery because once your on cm7 , or any other Mtd build you can't use the three finger method anymore..if you run into problems again..it may be a pain in the ass but doing the eb01 and 2.2 pit repartition will always get back up and ready for a clean install if you really screw things up.
[Thunderbolt General] droidxscott:
I have the shifts3ns3 1.4x on my phone right now. Whats the easiest way to get back to stock ???

Thanks
[Thunderbolt General] YankInDaSouth:
You mean stock unrooted or just a stock ROM?

Stock unrooted - there is a thread in the development section by jcase where you flash 2 RUUs and you're done.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009423

Stock rooted - search for 1.70.605.0 ROMs in the development section.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160374
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
If you mean out of the box stock then here's a link

http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/309817-easy-way-unroot.html
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] yugoport:
I'm using the new 7720 rom and have a standby battery drain of 5-7 ma with Bluetooth of , with Bluetooth on it jumps to 80 ma ,I'm using radio 5.69, do you guys have the same experience with radio 5.51t? Thanks in advance..

Edit1: just to add here my radio versions,

Soft 5.69

Hard 2.15
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Robbie P:
around 10mA wifi on BT off

around 80mA BT on wifi off (can't get both on:()

Both after leaving phone in standby and switching on straight into battery tool (10 secs)

radio 5.51T.09.29a_22.32.50.10U

radio hardware A.102.0.D4
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] yugoport:
Thank you mate Its the same as me, I use Bluetooth a lot and didn't know if it was normal..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Fmstrat:
I have the same issue.

Radio:

Hard: 2.15

Soft: 5.69

Thanks,

B.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hmcsoft:
Same issue

Same issue here.

Radio:

Hard: 2.15

Soft: 5.69
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Robbie P:
I am now able to get BT and wifi to work at the same time, don't know how. Drain still at -80mA though (with camera fix)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mtosic:
Where can you get HTC battery tool?

Can't find it in Mango, also search on marketplace returned nothing.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] mtosic:
If anybody was also searching for this...here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17170814&highlight=battery#post17170814
[Defy General] zakoo2:
hi all! in the last two weeks i got a serious battery drain, and i couldnt figure out why, reflashed sbf, calibrated battery dozens of times, etc. now i think ive found the answer: my defy got wet (both white indicators on the battery and under the battery are red, which means contact with water). all right, i did test its waterproofness quite a few times (taken underwater videos, dunk it in beer, listened to music in the shower, etc.), but ive been doing that for a few months now, never had any problems. strange thing is i switched batteries with a friend (hes got a dry defy :P), now both phones work fine, no battery drain. seems like wet decice and wet battery equals battery drain :confused: anyways, i posted this thread to warn everybody that defy is not so waterproof after all, if it survived swimming once, it doesnt meam itll survive it next time...

sent from my cm7 defy...
[Defy General] leodfs:
Hi. You are lucky. The defy never was water proof, it is water resistant. And even so, I don't thrust the usb cover at all for any kind of tests like those.