yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Lol @ test the update infrastructure.

No.

Also, "this fall" is not an estimated date. Fall is a season, not a month, not a week, and certainly not a date. It's a 3 month season and if they wish to pass that off as an estimated date, I guess it means they genuinely think their customers are idiots. An estimated date would be something along the lines of "the second week of September." "This fall..." That tells me nothing other than "we're giving ourselves a 3 month span so that if they ahve to wait until the dawn of Winter, we won't look like idiots."

But anyways, we've seen this tactic employed recently. Remember the Samsung US Galaxy S FroYo updates and #NeverAgain? Yea, that's basically what happened. I'm suprised WP7 users aren't furious they had to wait a whole year for an update, but this seems like a special kind of user base. Microsoft must be ecstatic they're given so much rope to play with (then again, they didn't sell 10M phones like Samsung, probably 3-4M in the US alone)...

Main issue is getting the update through the OEMs and carriers. Most OEMs already have the update ready, and they're even making new stock Mango phones.

Carriers are another deal, but I'm suprised it takes carriers so long with WP7 updates when they have a lot less stuff to test due to their inability to bake as much bloatware into the devices' ROMs and stuff like that.

Maybe the carriers are waiting for their partners (TeleNav, MobiTV, Slacker, Netflix, etc.) to get their apps Mango-ready before they approve it? Cause we all know they won't Okay the update if their subscription-based Value-Adds don't work correctly on it...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slimshady322:
Microsoft has a policy concerning rumors. That is they do not comment and that is the best policy.

If this rumor is true, MS might make an announcement in the next few days and then the download will be available. If that's the case, then there was no need to comment on the rumor and say "Yes Mango is coming this week, but we want it to be available shortly after we announced it so we're not announcing it today."

If the rumor is false, people might be pissed at MS but they have no reason to be so. We do not know who started the rumor and all we ever heard from MS was "fall".

Now if MS were to dismiss every incorrect rumor as soon as they can (to not get up expectations), a missing comment on a rumor would kind of mark it as true.

They only comment on rumors when the rumor really might leave many people disappointed, like the Xbox + blu ray thing a couple of years ago.

Xbox 360s have sold way better than Windows Phones and this Mango rumor might be a big deal for us enthusiasts, but apart from us that's that.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fb401:
BTW, I saw someone yesterday or the day before casually toss out the 2 PM PST time for a Mango release. That rumor's now dead.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dilzo:
I have a feeling it will be released on the 20th
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
9/15 isn't mango day, that was another rumor, folks. We've been saying "fall"... it's not fall yet! http://t.co/ZcvBO5ys

From joebelfiore on twitter.

I5 launching around then. Theyre dumb.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] designgears:
What lesson do they have to learn? They get free publicity, the only ones disappointed are the idiots that power the rumor mill.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andycted:
by the way, that's the same guy that kept radio silence while the blog was exploding with angry people during the nodo update failure.

The best thing for EVERYONE, devs, users, shops, etc would be to a predetermined release date, well in advance too. Failing that, as the date closes in, more and more accurate time windows. Failing that too, bad enough as it is, at least dispel rumors. Because it's not like people are EXCITED about the update. People are IMPATIENT. And rightly so, you're putting out features that have been on every smartphone for a long time !
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Professor Simon Peach:
let face with it or without mango WP7 is never going to win much of the market share, I expect theres a few who will have renewed their contact & jumped OS's before the mango hits the consumer ?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mustangboy88:
Does anyone know if voodoo and DSP Manager can both work together in harmony, or will one try to override the other. I am wondering this since dsp is installed to the system and voodoo is installed to data.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
I would not enable both at the same time.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaestreetss:
They Both work for me.

With dsp I only get fc's when a phone call is coming in..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
If you are getting fc's then they aren't working fine :p
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbeebe24:
Works perfectly on my phone. I actually have 3 processors working in harmony... poweramp, voodoo and dsp manager
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falconrulz:
They work okayish lol

I get amazing bass when I prep up both the settings, however DSP FCs when I connect/disconnect my earphones...weird :p

Nexus S
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
I searched and could not find a definitive answer. I have a fresh out of the box Nexus S 4G. adb installed on my pc and it works fine with my Thunderbolt. I keep getting "operation not permitted". What is the fix for this? Debugging checked.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Didja download the binaries for ur OS?

It should come in with the sdk

Wouldja mind posting a scrnshot of ur terminal/command line?

Thanks!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
I have the sdk installed and the usb drivers:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Damian>cd c:\android\tools

c:\Android\tools>adb remount

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

remount failed: Operation not permitted

c:\Android\tools>

---------- Post added at 11:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:03 PM ----------

And this is from my Thunderbolt

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Damian>cd c:\android\tools

c:\Android\tools>adb remount

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

remount failed: Operation not permitted

c:\Android\tools>adb remount

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

remount succeeded

c:\Android\tools>
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] willverduzco:
Not development. Thread closed. There is a q&a section for a reason.
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
HI 3dak !

You are a brave man ...

Wait reports ...

Thanks To try Kernel for SD/MAG ... :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
3dak

Ha ha .. we wait so longggg for this :D

Hope it can support Sense build with BT paring :)

Keep it up !!!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
I test for 2.3.4 + Sense 2.1 ... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1220151

first use kernel .... 3gdata working ... wifi not work ...

& try use (wpa_supplican) from K Ty r12 ...

Now Working wifi

More test ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
I approve.

Kudos.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
Thanks for your great works. so tiny works for me based on your source codes.:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
I will test it on the SS Transformer build. See how it goes ..

Edit : 1st BOOT ~ OK

Camera ~ ok

Call ~ ok

Wifi with (wpa_supplican) from K Ty r12 ~ ok

After off screen ~ Can't on screen again ?? just black screen .. try reboot

Will report later ...

After Reboot :Seems to solved the stuck on screen issue :)

Data connection ~ ok

So far no self reboot problem :)

Ui very smooth

Battery drain ~ 5ma on standby ..that's good :)

BT paring ~ ok :) === the battery drain high when BT is paring 67ma on standby 'will try to reboot again see how' .

Will report after more test ..

Hi 3dak is this kernel already include wakeup lag fix ?

Great work .. hope u can continue your work ! sharing is JOY !
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
yes, r1 already includes wakeup lag fix. r2 too.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Nice to know that :)

So far the kernel on the transformer build is stable .. but i can't get the battery drain to drop still at 67 ma :( so i try other way see can solved the problem or not ..

Will report later :)

Edit : Yep after few work around 'even hard reset the WM ROM' i confirm after BT paring the battery drain high 67ma !

So 3dak hope u can look into this

Thx for your hard work :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] pirlano:
it's better high battery drain and working BT than low drain and half working BT :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
On my build using hastarin 8.6 kernel we can get full BT paring with low battery drain 5ma on standby .
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
Confirmed r3 build fixed this issue on my MIUI SD ROM. I changed the BT driver to high speed uart driver from BCM driver.Finally fixed BT 60mA battery drain issue on SD/MAG kernel. upload r3 soon.
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
@3dak

can support conniction usp to pc without custom vold ... ?

same kernel jw 2.1 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1231432
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
maybe if you conpile a kernel just for SD you can set some parameters better , like for example the reading of the whole system, it should be better if some process don't star to ask for read all at the same time when phone starts or when the phone wakes up.

ANyway good work!
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Great news will try it out and give feedback .. how about the 1st boot black screen issue can it be solved on r3 ?

Anyway will try it out thanks for your hard work bro...

Edit: One suggestion right a guide to new members how to apply the kernel on others build . :)

For me i used only 3 file 'zImage' 'root' inside root ''bin'' that content 'wpa_supplicant' file with 'update' folder is this combo right ? or Correct me if i'm wrong ..
[HD2 Android SD Development] darkony:
what about modules? is wifi working without?
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
Want to warn you.....you've just broken compatibility with a large number of BT devices by making that switch.....

just an fyi....there was a reason i didn't follow tytung there ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] zboq:
Hi 3dak, i've tested your kernel in few different roms, and found out that wifi is not working in Transformer v6 SD but it's working fine in KS 8.0 SD. Tried to apply wpa_supplicant but it didn't help. Will se how it goes in Transformer v6.5.

Just a thought that i should inform you
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
check your service dhcpcd setting in init.rc or init.htcleo.rc of initrd.gz if it is correct type per ROM version.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
Thanks.so a good idea is to build 2 kinds of kernels, one is using HS UART driver (poor compatibility) and another is BCM ( good compatiblity but has 60mA BT battery drain issue).then choose by demand. I'll update both.
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
also ensure u're using the older gcc toolchain.

i found if i didn't use the older one(documented with a google search), the prox sensor would also cause high drain after first phone call it was actively used on.
[HD2 Android SD Development] skymera:
No kernel source?

Post it please.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
source, refer to my git repository https://gitorious.org/~3dak/linux-on-wince-htc/3dak-linux_on_wince_htc
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
From now on, release two kinds of kernels for every revision update:

Kernel 3dak_r3.xx ( no bt battery drain but maybe poor bt device compatibility)

Kernel 3dak_r2.xx (GOOD bt device compatibility but maybe battery drain issue)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kikisp:
must say that i am impressed with your 3.1 kernel...

good speed improvemet vs 3.0
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Nice to khow have choice :)

Will apply the latest kernel on my Sense build for tested.
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
3dak if you can try to focus on speed and temperature ( that obvius depend on cpu usage, and battery draining..)
[HD2 Android SD Development] sungc007:
I agree on the opinion of light_n_roses...I tested the ACA823 kernel and your 3.1 kernel with your HD2 Miui rom... ACA823 kernel is smoother than your kernel without any lag...Your kernel sometimes is not responding...which is a kernel lag....it's scheduler issue or anything?
[HD2 Android SD Development] manhktqd:
How about "two way call recoder" with your R3 kernel?
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
r3.1 + signal not stable sometime ...

can do something for speed gpu or hw ? need that for Sense rom
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
I'm studying the HD2 GPU Adreno200 driver by Qualcomm @

git https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...b819424af4be;hb=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32

hope I can find something helpful.
[HD2 Android SD Development] boonbing:
Need help on kernel development

@3dak. Need some help and guidance from you to bring me up to speed on kernel development... already lost a couple of hairs reading all over Google...

I am currently stuck at how to implement a patch on Hastarin r8.6eb kernel by Darkstone (patch is found here: http://pastebin.com/6qjkb4Hh). The information is provided by Darkstone at the original SuperRAM thread at: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=870518 under the "For Developers Only" section in the first post. Would appreciate if you can teach me how to implement the patch into Hastarin r8.6eb kernel.

Some background of what I have done so far:

- Installed Ubuntu 11.04

- Followed faithfully the FAQ by Hastarin on kernel compilation here. But seems that his recommended build_config (renamed to .config in git folder) taken from the kernel is throwing an error during compilation resulting in no zImage output. Managed to fixed this error by cleaning and making a new config file from codesourcery. Got the compiled kernel to work on the HD2 but phone restart whenever I switched on wifi :mad:

- Installed Git with account in gitorious.org but do not know how to link my local drive to my Git acccount :confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
so you've installed git on ubuntu. everything is ready but you also need arm toolchians:

https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1293

download the advanced package:

Source TAR dbc1fab4b5e4eafe5a82fb1542eb8c97

unzip and put it to somewhere, for me, i put the decompress folder "arm-2010-q1" @

~/3dak

then next things you should do:

1. create a your account on https://gitorious.org/

2. genarate your SSH keys by

ssh-keygen

and now open your public key ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and copy its content as your

https://gitorious.org/ SSH key.

this will be used for your first repository clone and git push.

3. clone repository of hastarin @ https://gitorious.org/

, I found you have done this

4. now use git to get your repository:

git clone git://gitorious.org/~boonbing/linux-on-wince-htc/boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc.git boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc

then cd your local repository folder:

cd boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc

now use git to Add your repository as a remote to your existing local repository:

$git remote add boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc git://gitorious.org/~boonbing/linux-on-wince-htc/boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc.git

now fetch your remote branches:

$git fetch boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc

Now checkout your remote eb braches and create a local branch: myeb(any name you like):

$git checkout -b myeb boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc/eb

now Adding your repository as a pushable origin

$git remote set-url --push origin git://gitorious.org/~boonbing/linux-on-wince-htc/boonbings-hastarins-linux_on_wince_htc.git

now set to push the eb branch to the origin remote we added above:

$git push origin eb

so you just need to use

$git push

for your remote branch update

now do some other config set

git config --global user.name your name

git config --global user.email your email

you can modify your git config @

<local repository locaiton>/.git/config any time

FYI. my .git/config :

if you copy your local repository to another foler and want the new copied folder as another remote push source, just need to edit the .git/config contents.

any codes changes,you should use

$git commit

to find changes

and use

$git add changed_file to add in

then

$git commit

then

$git push

to update your remote branch.

Hope above will be helpful for you.
[HD2 Android SD Development] pozi:
I am ashamed to ask ... but I'm having BT compatibility issues and need this ...

how can this kernel be applied to a NAND rom? (I have used CWM ... with zip files).

Thanks,

Pozi.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
I suggest you use Tytung_r12 for CWM.

my kernel is for SD/MAG only. not ok for nand cwm.

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already suppported.
[HD2 Android SD Development] pozi:
Ooops ... I thought NAND was for Androids based on the device memory rather than residing on the SD ... so they were either SD or NAND. CWM was (in my little knowledge on this area) a software tool which makes easy certain low level tasks.

So ...CWM is an alternative to MAGLDR as CLK is?

Sorry ... but asking is the only way to learn (togueter which reading a lot on XDA, but reading all is not an option, I have not time, maybe there is no time to read so much :-).

Anyway thanks for all your work and help .... this makes thousands learn, improve and enjoy ...

Pozi.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
I studied whole night yesterday for 2.6.35 GPU driver, and found the following change maybe will be helpful to improve sense buld graphic speed.

here is a kernel_r3.2 beta1 test buld for sense build:

http://www.mediafire.com/?o0is8t2wvd51vg8

this r3.2beta1 test kernel with following changes:

Kernel r3.2 beta1

GPU KGSL: added CONFIG_MSM_KGSL_PER_FD_PAGETABLE option(Turn on per-fd pagetable for MMU of graphics driver )

kgsl_Yamato: changed devconfig->va_range = SZ_128M; to:

devconfig->va_range = SZ_166M; (ADD MORE 38MB FOR MMU PAGE TABLE)

hope this will help sense build, need to test.

added CONFIG_USB_ANDROID_RNDIS_WCEIS (Windows Internet Sharing Class/SubClass/Protocol)

added CONFIG_EXT3_FS_SECURITY option

updated HTC Battery dirver

smd_debug conditionals change

possible some options for the va_range sizes:

#ifndef __MYSIZE_H

#define __MYSIZE_H

#define SZ_144M 0x09000000

#define SZ_150M 0x09600000

#define SZ_160M 0x0A000000

#define SZ_166M 0x0A600000

#define SZ_170M 0x0AA00000

#define SZ_176M 0x0B000000

#define SZ_180M 0x0B400000

#define SZ_DesireS 0x0F000000 /* Same as Desire S GPU MMU PageTable Size 256MB */

#endif /* __MYSIZE_H */

Need you test and feedback for the SZ_166M test on sense build. I feel my MIUI build is faster than before with this beta1.

Add more 4 kinds of GPU MMU PAGETABLE sizes for you to test:

SZ_150M : http://www.mediafire.com/?vjgeei138f3prde

SZ_170M: http://www.mediafire.com/?wji22587dc1fqzz

SZ_180M: http://www.mediafire.com/?4u7clysrp8osdz1

SZ_DesireS : http://www.mediafire.com/?p6b7s53wpvhnjvu (Double MMU PAGETABLE ,256MB, same as DesireS GPU MMU PageTable), works fine and quite fast on my MIUI SD/MAG rom.

Let me know the performance with different SZ_ , let's find best out.
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
You should check out the HTC .35 port I've been working on.

Dunno how much you've worked on this stuff before, but you oughta pull the source down, compile, see if it works, and help troubleshoot if it doesn't(or if just some stuff doesn't). i just don't have any time to really dedicate my personal device to testing for a while.

it's the future haha. :)

https://gitorious.org/aca-kernel-htc-35
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
:)

Big Thanks for Dev GPU ...

Test & Feedback ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] light_n_roses:
Hi 3dak and boonbing !

Here you can find the source code of htc sense http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads for a lot of device included the sensetion, hope that this can help you in optimization maybe ! One thing that I have always noted is that sense's widgets updated themself just when you navigate to them ( or at least they updated their view when you are on it ) this cause some slow down in my opionion, it would be intersting to see if it's possible to implement a full background update for sense widgets !
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
I'll pull source down and see if it works or not

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Let's see HTC Desire S GPU MMU PAGE TABLE:

#else

devconfig->va_range = 0x0F000000;

#endif

so it is 256MB, we also have a lot of buff to improve our HD2 GPU performance. I think!
[HD2 Android SD Development] dimdimdim:
man, thanks, works fully functional (wifi, bt) with sense 3.5 build/magdlr (mcc/boxmax).

laggy here and there.. but works!

keep up!

your 3.1 works very well with miui, besides some rare lags.

but BATTERY!!! 2-4 ma with data, bt, wifi enabled!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
tested on my MIUI build and score of AnTutu Benchmarking 2.2 showed it has about 5%3D performance improved with SZ_DesireS. but obviousely the game Plants vs.Zombie runs smoothly than before.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Hi 3dak some members feedback your kernel is booting madglr with no problem but with hastarin 8.6 it's stuck .. but your kernel bit laggy so still can be improve ;)

Keep up the good work :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxmax:
I test SZ_150M + SZ_DesireS on Rom DesireS 2.3.5 ,,, Slow Sense first boot & laggy animation 3d widget some time & need more time for stable sense ... Need Some Dev ..

after test more kernel for Senes rom :

best scaling for animation sense & fast work widget ... ondemand scaling or interactive

kernel tytung Faster animation widget than kernel hastarin ...

can do default scaling ondemand or interactive

i want try that from you

:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] zboq:
Hi, did some testing and here is what i got:

Quadrant score:

SZ_150M - 1517

SZ_180M - 1650

SZ_DesireS - 1658

Kernel Hastarin 8.6: 1881

All test were done on Boxmax sense 3.5.

With your kernel build was very laggy and phone was loosing GSM signal for few seconds, especially when i was locking the screen and unlocking right after. But happend also few times more during normal use. That does not happens on hastarin kernel.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
I'll check compile config regarding CPU and GPU one by one vs. tytung's config and find the differences. I trun off some CPU options and maybe the min freq setting is too low, it maybe one of root causes of lag issue:

current freq min.@ ondemand:

# CONFIG_MSM_CPU_FREQ_SCREEN is not set

CONFIG_MSM_CPU_FREQ_ONDEMAND_MAX=1148000

CONFIG_MSM_CPU_FREQ_ONDEMAND_MIN=128400

---------- Post added at 03:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:32 AM ----------

result basically same like my test on Miui build, SZ_DesireS has got best 3D performance. actually tried to set MMU va_range to 32MB,64MB, if it is 32MB, even MIUI build will become quite lag.so enough MMU page table size is one factor of lag issue.
[HD2 Android SD Development] manhktqd:
I tried to call my friend. His voice were very clear but my voice were very very low.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 3dak:
3dak_r3.2 beta2

Pls try this 3dak_r3.2 beta2 on sense build and give me feedback, thanks.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vm4wb53thj521yc

Changes:

1.GPU MMU pagetable size =256MB , same as Desire S.

2.Kernel compile config optimzed for CPU and memory,

3. removed some debug stuffs,they are useless for user, i think. now kernel size smaller, and free memory increased, on my miui build, increased about 30MB.

4.eb supported.