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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cruckus:
Just found out I get the phone for free with cyanogen working for Samsung will the phone be worth it or should I stick with my Evo 3d and Droid x? Plus never used Odin before really just helped people root their phones with it along time ago it just unlocks the phone right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Odin flashes your phone to coplete stock... or whatever you want
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Right those instructions are carried over from the Epic. I will update them once I get the E4GT.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] latinmaxima:
I think I read already. There were screenshots already posted. I should also have this Friday morning if Sprint doesn't open it up Thursday night or Best Buy even.

Correction. This was posted in E4GT General.

You get to *odin mode* by holding down volumne + and - keys at the same time along with the power key, release power key when device turns on while continuing to hold + and - keys untill the droid guy screen comes on, then release.

Glad to see you over here by the way Crawrj. I take it your upgrading as well. Look forward to your first plus kernel for this thing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Nice. Thanks for the info.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] duce102:
yeah like deano said, you can flash ANYTHING. once AdamOutler gets started on development for our device, we will be able to flash custom bootloaders like the Captivate can, for those who dont know, the Captivate was recently able to flash the Nexus S bootloader which means it is basically a Nexus S in disguise lol. Odin will also let us falsh stock and custom ROMs and kerenls as well as Modems (radios) plus recoveries such as CWM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rev3ge07:
Also if anything screws up its ur way outta trouble...things such as "omg i'm bricked" and "help i'm stuck on the boot logo" won't be seen as much in the Q and A section as much... get to know Odin referring to people coming from EVO or any other phone Odin is ur new bff
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dulanic:
Love Odin :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stangdriverdoug:
Sounds cool. Ahh starting the learning all over again lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Odin is great. It was almost impossible to brick the Epic with it. If you get any kind of phone life, you can almost always get it back to stock and start again. Also, 30 seconds to flash a different modem. We had some great stock GB leaks with Busybox,Superuser included (thanks Crawrj.) Great tool.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
I wonder if the original gsII's cwm will work for us...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
can some one post a good repository or online dummy guide for those who have no clue what Odin is even still after reading these posts? I consider my self tech savy, but only getting introduce to "root" on the evo, i will be the first to admit i have a lot to learn.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Its really not that involved. All you do is put a tar file in "phone" and a pit file in "Pit" and select run and let it do its thing. Modems get flashed in "PDA" section and that's basically it. There is more detail but that's a quick rundown. I am not the most tech saavy myself but you catch on quick. I have used it 50+ times. I will try to run down a more thorough description.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Here's a qbking video showing Odin to go from stock Froyo to Gingerbread leak on the Epic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nst4wvuM4zs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And one more video showing using Odin to go back to stock when rooted and/or using custom ROM...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2g6J1JgjU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JasonK75:
I'm in the same boat as you; rooted the EVO the day after it launched so I'm new to Odin myself. I'm wondering about the hit the 1 key as well. :) Also for this part :

IMPORTANT: Make sure you have installed the proper XP or Win7 drivers before starting. Also, remove the SD card from the phone (this may not be necessary, but having the SD card installed has caused Odin to fail for a number of people, so might as well just do it).

I'm wondering what Win7 drivers I will need?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
good looking out
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I will have to see if the drivers are the same. If they are, I will post them in the morning. There are generally 2 of them..X64 for 64 bit and X86 for 32 bit. Generally, after you install the drivers, they work after a reboot. Its always good to open Odin before connecting phone. If your phone is recognized, a little box will turn yellow showing "Com:4" etc..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] princessakiki:
So will we need our computer for every flash? Or can we do like with the Evo flash from SD card?

Kiki
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Nope. You should only need your computer to Odin to stock. Once you have anything on your SD card you should be good. I have 3 Froyo and 4 Gingerbread ROMs on my Epic. I have Odin available if I got an unexpected error.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cruckus:
So its basically a sbf file for samsungs just to return to stock not to unlock the bootloader or anything right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dulanic:
Odin is for going back to bone stock. It will wipe the phone and start it from fresh. It also can be used to re partition it back to stock levels. It is not used to flash ROMs. ROMs will be flashed from the SD card and through Clockwork Mod (most likely). Just about anything can be flashed or fixed through CWM.

About the only time Odin is used for upgrades is when new versions get leaked and no devs have had time to cook something up and you want to "test" it. For this phone the first time you will see this will be the early ICS leaks.

Odin uses .tar files and .pit files. The .tar files are the data and the .pit files are kind of a partition map. If you are not re partitioning, the .pit file usually is not needed. It will all make sense once the phone is out. If you want more data, head over to the Epic forums and start reading.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aaron130:
I feel like Chad Ochocinco going to the Patriots from the Bengals having to learn an entire new offense!! Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tool2269:
LOL same here.. I'm still in awe..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
You will also hve to use odin for madems
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
Watching those videos you posted really helped me get a better grasp of what to expect once I get my E4GT. Coming from HTC (been with an HTC since 2008), this is ALL foreign to me but one thing EVERYONE should learn is how to use Odin it seems!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
so does odin replace custom recovery all together or just in certain instances?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
After we would run Odin, OneClick root was necessary after that. Almost every ROM we have is EXT4 file system vs. Stock RFS. There is a backdoor root method I.e. flashing a leak that has Busybox ans Superuser baked in with Odin. The people here from the Epic will gladly help out. They are a good group of guys.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Don't worry guys odin is as simple as connecting your device and clicking start....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
i'm just trying to figure out what role Odin plays in flashing compared to the Evo. For me, i flashed everything in recovery for the Evo. So it looks like that is some what handled by Odin now?

Here are some directions from the GS II section

Step 1: Install Odin v1.85 on your computer then download and unrar the Lite'ning Rom rar file.

Step 2: Make sure that your phone is in USB debugging mode: Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB debugging.

Step 3: Reboot your phone into download mode. To do so: Turn the device off, then power it on again by pressing and holding the Volume Down + Home + Power on simultaneously.

Step 4: Start Odin.

Step 5: Connect the phone to your computer using the USB cable.

Step 6: Wait a few seconds, the Odin screen will show that a device is now connected... Added!!

* Make sure that in Odin nothing is checked, except the "Auto reboot" and "F. Reset Time" checkboxes.

* Press the "PDA" button, and select the md5 file.

* Press "Start". Odin will now flash the Lite'ning Rom, after flashing your phone should reboot.

linky
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
^^^^ looks right to me. The only difference from the Epic is that we ONLY had auto reboot checked. It really is easy to use once you use it a few times. Hopefully the cable is better quality than the one that came with Epic. A lot of people ended up not using stock cable because phone wouldn't show up cnnected but from the videos I have seen, it looks better now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JBNAquatics:
I don't know if this applies but when rooting the E4GT with Odin, do we have to backup the RSA keys? I keep on hearing people over in the Evo section losing their RSA keys and I would hate to lose mine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
No dude ... you won't have to backup anything ... all Odin does basically is return you COMPLETELY to stock ...

out of the box type ****
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Its a safety mechanism. You should only really have to use it if you need to take your phone in for service or if we get a leak of an upcoming ROM that's in tar format but usually someone makes a flashable version anyway within a few hours.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Set up the software:

Extract the odin-pit.zip

Run Odin3+v1.61.exe

Make the following boxes are checked:

Re-Partiton, Auto-reboot, F. Reset Time

Click PIT and select the victory_8G_100528.pit that you extracted previously.

Click PDA and select SPH-D700-EC05-8Gb-REL.tar

Put your phone in Download Mode:

Make sure the USB cord is unplugged

Remove the battery

Reinsert your battery

Hold down the "1" key

While holding the "1" hold down the power button.

The phone should now be displaying a Yellow Triangle with Downloading... (see end of post for image of download mode)

Plug the phone into Computer

Under ID:COM, the box should turn yellow and contain the com port. If it doesn't see Troubleshooting at the end.

Odin should now look like this (screenshot shows EB13 but is the same for EC05):

Now you should be able to click Start.

Your phone should auto-reboot when finished and should be working 100%!

This has worked on numerous phone that have partition issues, intermittent booting issues, and many other file system issues. This also fixes the Samsung Logo disappearing from boot.

Got this from the Epic forums ... but it'll be the same thing for this phone ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
but it is possible to flash ROM's with Odin right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
It's possible for developers to make their roms flashable thru odin but over in the Epic forums i don't believe any dev ever did ... but it is possible ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
If I remember right, only Crawrj did with the Gingerbread leaks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Yeah probably I stopped paying attention to epic development about a month ago lol just started hating the epic for some reason...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
The leaks all seemed the same to me....buggy. still running Froyo on my Epic until the RAM issue gets ironed out
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stackz!:
Samsung phones don't have RSA keys... That is an HTC thing.

The only way a Samsung phone authenticates to a WiMax tower is strictly through MAC address... and Odin doesn't touch values such as that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] latinmaxima:
For anyone nervous please watch the videos posted above. Odin is easy to use and will help you if your bork something trying to flash something. ROM's will still be flashed from the sdcard once they come out. If you have questions though ask and those of us familiar with samsung can help you out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Ok, got mine so let's see root!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rev3ge07:
Check out Qbking77 on YouTube he uses Odin to flash really simple great visual and audio man I hope he gets the ET4G lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
There are several people who have been asking him to get one. He has 4 phones but not an ET4G...yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MichaelMcEntire:
Can Odin be used in Linux?

Sent from my E3D.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rev3ge07:
Yea I Know I was glad to see him in the nexus s 4g forum but now imma sell it for the new epic
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JasonK75:
err...I feel dumb for asking this, but what video? I didn't see a link at all?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Here is the thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009997

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dboftlp:
Page 1 has links to video for how Odin is used.

HTC ppl (like me), it looks like Odin is almost comparable to our RUUs, just separate files to actually flash & the app that runs it. Add in the fact that some devs also build flashable modems (ie radios) and ROMs that work with it, it might get a bit confusing. I think primarily it's a leaked Samsung tool they use to get phones back to stock factory w/ a total wipe, factory install kinda thing. Make Sense? (No pun intended ;)

PS, I have the twitch to move to a Sammy phone, been on HTC from day one w/ the Hero :/ It's just so sick!

dboftlp
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
^^^^^^exactly. You won't have to use Odin very often at all. I used it twice in the first 4 months after rooting. I have used it much more lately with all of the Gingerbread leaks we have been getting for the Epic. Once we get rooted, most things will be flashable through recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
New version posted with proper instructions.

Vdown+Home+Power for download mode

Also Vup+Home+Power for recovery mode

Thanks to Kn0wBuddy for finding it for us.

Edit: Kn0wBuddy says that it is confirmed that you only need Vdown+Power for download mode and Vup+Power for recovery mode.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] neverends:
ok I am lost - so odin included is just an app we will need to use... As of now there is nothing to do with it for the E4GT... am i correct... I installed ODIN on my PC and went in to download mode on the phone and ODIN recognized it... but now what?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Right now nothing. From what I gather only time you need odin is to go back to stock. Otherwise we flash as normal
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
You are correct. Odin is used to flash .tar files. That could be modems, kernels or complete roms. The main use of Odin is to restore your phone back to stock. For example if you soft brick your phone, want to go back to stock to get an OTA update or something similar you would use Odin to flash a .tar file to get back to completely stock (Wipes all data and everything). Right now there is nothing you can do with it. Once a tar is released we will be able to use Odin at that time. This is just to get you ready for when that happens.

Edit: Beat me to it xlGmanlx :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bobbywatts:
Glad to see familiar names with the new Epic, that me me feel I made a worthy purchase... Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madhouze:
Something odd....

I was able to get into recovery when I got the phone yesterday.

I was trying to get into ODIN today but no success.. then tried recovery again - no success either... no matter what I do - it just boots normally...

Any ideas?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Are you doing this?

Vdown+Home+Power for download mode

Also Vup+Home+Power for recovery mode

Thanks to Kn0wBuddy for finding it for us.

Edit: Kn0wBuddy says that it is confirmed that you only need Vdown+Power for download mode and Vup+Power for recovery mode.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madhouze:
Yes...

I tried that... though yesterday I was able to get into recovery by only holding vol+ & power....

now nothing does anything.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] springsyeti:
Is it compatable with mac?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] timdorr:
No, this is a Windows-only program.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
Heimdall works with our phone on mac out of the box.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zedomax:
Press Volume Down and Power button to get into download mode and Volume Up and Power for recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Barsky:
I am familiair with odin and not a newb to this stuff as I have had a Captivate for a year now. What I am not seeing and want to confirm is:

Is this a root or for returning to factory stock?

If this is the root, can it be turned back to factory stock and if so, where are those images.

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
We need a deodexed rom so i can add crt and overscroll :) and maybe theme a little..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
Odin is used for flashing .tar files, which can be either stock or custom. There will always be a stock .tar that you will be able to use to go back to bone stock. Some people release custom roms in .tar format as well. Additionally, you can flash modems and recoveries in .tar format.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Yeah also modems can only be flashed with odin... Unless something changed that i dont know of from the epic lol..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pathtologos:
Ahhh...there is no place like XDA. Like several of you, I'm coming from HTC. Never owned a Sammy before. Still waiting to receive my E4GT from wirefly but I've just gotten an amazing tutorial on Odin and rooting Sammy's in general in this thread. Thanks guys...can't wait to get started.

Any word on how root process is going? Or when it might happen?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
Don't forget about Heimdall :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] springsyeti:
O.k. also coming from evo and familiar with rooting. So what is heimdal.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] springsyeti:
Nevermind. Google is awesome. Lol.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=755265

For others with the same question.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zedomax:
Vdown+Power no Home needed on the Touch 4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Yo crawj.. Are you gunna mek a deoedexed pre rooted odin flashable version? No rush just wondering... I want to theme this and add crt and overscroll glow :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Do we need new drivers for Odin? My phone isn't being recognized when I connect it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Definitely will unless someone beats me to it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
I wouldn't think so but have not tried it. I did look for the drivers online and did not see them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Nice!!! Cant wait
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I asked this in another thread but did anyone get Oin to recognize their ET4G? If so, what did you do?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pcolson:
Install Kies to get the needed drivers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] NateTheGreat:
I can confirm this.

Link to Kies:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/m...softwaremanual.do?page=MOBILE.SOFTWARE.MANUAL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Orangeandblue302:
ok so i ususally never have problems with adb or odin but i hit a snag with ADB.

when i try to cd into the platform-tools folder and get into adb devices i get this:

cd\

C:\>cd AndroidSDK\platform-tools

C:\AndroidSDK\platform-tools>adb devices

List of devices attached

thats where im at this moment, i have reinstalled adb twice and still get this :-(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Big thanks to pcolson and NateTheGreat. I am ready to go now. Odin is good.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madhouze:
Guys....

Still can't get into ODIN....

I tried vol-down + power, i tried vol-down+home+power... nothing - it just boots normally..

I have no clue what else I can do - any more ideas other than repeating the same instructions?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jlear3:
Make sure you install keis with phone un-plugged.

Then plug in phone, turn on us debugging and you should be okay. If not there's a way to reinstall the drivers, also make sure you do this with phone unplugged or you'll get some crazy error.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] darren.wlsn1:
just a heads up, once again i have 2 bad usb cables on 2 phones and ya i tried all ports and other pc's. all was working fine since thursday then one went bad sat. and now other not even used yet took a crap. i hope its just me but i just wanna put it out there.

---------- Post added at 08:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 AM ----------

Once fully powered off, press and hold volume down, home key, and power button at the SAME time. shabbys words.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pyrostic:
Thanks, it took me a while to find the proper version for Odin when rooting the Samsung Droid Charge. Appreciate the upload.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spdwiz18:
YOU DO NOT NEED TO HOLD THE HOME BUTTON......

hold vol-down and power till you get os warning screen... and follow on screen intructions

IT helps to be press and holding the vol-down button before you hit the power button and hold both,.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Orangeandblue302:
thanks man that works fantastic!

SGSIIE4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madhouze:
God knows what changed... tried the same thing I did every time before but now it worked...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
So folks have gotten adb to recognize the ET4G?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jlear3:
Yes, drivers some with keis install
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rockky:
So a "what if"....if I was to flash a cf-root tar from SGS2 what'd be the likely outcome? Bootloop?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kn0wBuddy:
From what I gather when it's been tried... a rooted Epic 4G Touch with no 3G/4G/WiFi/capacitive button function (because of differences in hardware and GSM vs. CDMA/WiMax networks). You would need a stock SPH-D710 kernel to restore that functionality, which has not yet been successfully pulled or compiled.

Seems like multiple avenues are being pursued to try to resolve the issue, but none yet have been successful.

Edit: Apparently there is a working tar now thanks to tanimn (according to shabbypenguin) with 3g/4g working, but without working WiFi yet.

Edit2: Fully working kernel with WiFi and Haptic Feedback fixed thanks to zedomax is now available.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rockky:
Thanks man. Was SO tempted!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reverepats:
so lemme ask u guys something.....im sure you've guys have heard this before...coming from the OG EVO and EVO 3D, i finally jumped onboard a little bit ago....so now as far as after we get root and such, as far as flashing kernels, ROMs, radios and such, will we be doing it thru a REcovery like most devices?....or will it be completely different?...im just wondering, started to do some digging a few mins ago, but i figured i'd ask u guys...doesnt hurt i guess....thanks guys...much appreciated
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Yeah, basically almost all ROMs and kernels will be flashed in recovery. Once we have root and a recovery, you will just wipe Cache partition and Dalvik cache 3x when you flash a theme and System/Data, cache, and Dalvik when flashing a ROM. At least that's how it is on the Epic and its very reliable
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reverepats:
ahh ok so basically nothing too different from what ive been used to for the past year or so....AWESOME!!!>....hey man thanks for the feedback....gonna get reading on ODIN before i just jump right in tho....much appreciated man,,,thanks again
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Not only that but make sure you can see your phone in both Odin and ADB
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reverepats:
ok so i should just DL odin for now.,....i think i get what u mean tho
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
Will I always have to open odin from the zip, because when I extract it, it just immediately closes?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lballer69:
U can put the actual folder on ur desktop ......
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I got crazy and used Odin 1.81...living on the edge. But seriously, it was quick and painless to root just make sure only auto reboot is checked before you hit start
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shabbypenguin:
please dont use the pit with this zip, its from teh epic 4g. not the e4gt
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
Damn my bad. I thought I removed that from there. Updated the op and will update the file when I get a chance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmarden:
Don't use a PIT at all. Not necessary.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I've used Odin dozens of times and never use the pit