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[Galaxy S II General] degeneration:
Here's my thoughts on the prime.

Any nexus phone performs almost like a generation or two later phone. When it is the dev phone that means most things run better on it, so if it has a dual core 1.5ghz processor since so many people will be developing for it it will be running strong into the kal el and maybe beyond stages of phones.

It will always have the latest and greatest, it will be the primary device google thinks about when it comes to android, it will be one of the few phone app developers care about, etc etc etc...

The GSG2 will probably be another phone app devs look too, and the tegra2 is wide spread so the hercules will get some good coverage, but the prime (or whatever) will be a whole new level.

I mean, from what I am hearing this will probably be one of the first noteworthy nexuses. I say that because I have never gotten one in the past because they had lack luster hardware, but then I regret it when it takes 4 years before people seem to care to upgrade it. If I was still rocking my G1 (I keep it around for old time's sake) I would be so frustrated. However the Vibrant barely lasted me a year (I only keep it because nothing feels worth it to upgrade to yet).

People might have very valid arguments against all that, but I think a nexus phone's specs are a little less important than anything else just because it gets so much development attention. So that's what I am looking at for my next phone.

Also, I don't think anything has actually been confirmed about the Nexus. Everything always seems to be really flaky. They could be true, but I am just waiting for the damn thing to come out before deciding what it is. I would like it to be a nice phone, and then I would go for it. Otherwise my issue continues.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
the only good thing about the Nexus line of phones is that they will eventually be available to ALL phone carriers, in a matter of... time say average spread over 2 year, there are still some carriers that are just barely getting the Nexus S (kinda late if you ask me), but the Nexus 3 is around the corner already.

the 5 MP and no SD card support is a big no no for my personal preference.

all new phones have way better hardware, already got a Nexus S and ... it sucks when it come to lack of space

Development wise, it hasn't got nearly half as enough attention as the Nexus One got, instead SGS2 seems to be getting all the glory from the Developers right now.

it's true the Hercules will always be like an outcast or bastard child of the SGS2 family, but there will be enough support to make the phone worth while

on a side note, these are the latest info on the Hercules

Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989 (Hercules), available at T-Mobile
[Galaxy S II General] Vibrantnew-b:
Latest rumor on Tmobile News is a dual core 1.5 Qualcomm APQ8060.

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/09/sams...cidentally-spills-galaxy-s-ii-processor-info/
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
**UPDATE** We will be getting Qualcomm 1.5Ghz dual-core APQ8060 processor will power the 4.52″ Super AMOLED Plus device. NICE
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
What gpu? Adreno 220?

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
still a month & 1/2 to wait....

this waiting game is driving me nuts :D
[Galaxy S II General] :
well....its disappointing to say the least =/ exynos is a far better proc than the APQ8060 IMHO. The APQ8060 isnt bad by any means, just from my experience with it, it's no Exynos. I wanted Exynos for the FP and the Texture capability. The Adreno 220 has about 1/4 the texture ability of Exynos (twice the Geometry). I again will still probably be getting it for those that will be and be making a kernel for it (any donations if you want me to get it will help ALOT [cuz I is poor T.T])

EDIT: I will say though that the APQ8060 seems to perform better than the OMAP4430 =3
[Galaxy S II General] N8ter:
OMAP has been seen to outperform snapdragons in many instances recently, so I dunno.

I just think neutering a core component so you can advertise speeds that no one needs is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. AT&T would never do that, and neither would Sprint or Verizon. No wonder they can't compete.
[Galaxy S II General] :
Well, from tests I've seen the adreno 220 competes very well with the Sgx540, even beating it in fps despite lower apparent synthetic scores. The performance difference between sgx540 @300mhz and adreno 220 is little to none though. Now the reason for lower benchmark for CPU seems to be the way snapdragon manages its cores, keeping one of them idle most of the time (and Androids lack of efficient use of multi core systems).. With dual core enabled full time like most off the others, and with proper smp support we might see a very different picture. i'm sure we would see much higher marks from the Qualcomm chip then we have thus far.

Get one of these in my hands, I guarantee I'll show you what the apq 8060 is made of =] its no Exynos, but its a beast all its own.
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
CAnt wait for u work on it!!!! this wait is killing me
[Galaxy S II General] hotadef:
I'm not overly disappointed I was waiting for the other processor. But to be honest the processor they are placing in Hercules is probably the second best on market from bench marks I have seen. Those benchmarks was for a 1.2 chip. Im thinking at 1.5 it should push closer to the 1.2 sgs2. May even beat it in a few things. So yeah ill get it I can't worry about having the best dual core on the planet know a 4 core is around the corner. 6 months ago yea I'd be pissed but now I'm waiting on 4 cores and Hercules will be my upgrade
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
you can see the Qualcommn CPU in action by checking out the scores of the HTC Sensation

keep in mind that they are clocked at 1.2 Ghz instead of 1.5 Ghz

also the HTC Sensation performed horribly on stock ROM, but on CM7 and custom ROMS the Qualcomm CPU shines

very similar to the case with the LG 2X

it was a piece of crap during release time, full of bugs, but with Custom ROMs that thing is quite a hidden jewel

so i have no doubt at all the T-mobile version of the SGS2 will be just as good as the original SGS2 with some tweaks here and there
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
ty allgamer!! cant wait!!!
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
I was just thinking. Does the tmob version get hw acceleration?

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] AustinKnight45:
^^^ I feel the exact same I also feel they do this so they can sell a bunch and not give you a update because something wont be compatible later down the road cause it's not the same as the two other variants then come out with a "PLUS" version 3 moths later that gives you all of what you been wanting for sound about right hu.....
[Galaxy S II General] jRi0T68:
I don't see what features they are omitting that they would add in an updated version. With the Vibrant, the ffc and 4G were added. What are they going to do with the Hercules? Add in 5G? (sarcasm, for those who can't comprehend) I could see if they had gone exynos and 21 Mbps radio them "upgrading" it to 42 Mbps, but other than processor and a notification led, nothing I can see is missing.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
with a factory clocked CPU at 1.5 Ghz, and 4G speed of 42 Mbps, which practically almost makes it a 5G phone if there was such a beast :p

I doubt you can add anything else to the phone to make it a "Vibrant 4G" per say, so no, it's very doubtful we'll see the scenario of the "Vibrant 3G" vs. "Vibrant 4G" case here

the Sprint version have a blue LED notification light, we might or might not get that one on the Tmobile version

1.5 Ghz + OC the phone can easily reach 2 Ghz, and even without OC, at stock speed, the phone can easily run just as fast as the normal SGS2

with OC, i'm sure it'll leave the regular SGS2 in the dust.
[Galaxy S II General] Jasonhunterx:
But battery gonna take hit an exynos can oc too at same speeds it will defeat the dragon im gonna wait for quad core phones or at least prime or just about anything from sammy there the best hardware wise
[Galaxy S II General] :
Actually Qualcomm processors tend to use alot lower voltage than Samsungs, only a slight voltage increase is needed for the 1.2GHz Qualcomm chips to easily reach 1.8 (none for 1.7 from what I hear), starting @ 1.5 we should easily hit 2.0ghz. And Exynos wins, we know that, but the DC snapdragons are second only to Exynos in performance as far as I can tell. Its going to be a VERY nice phone either way =]
[Galaxy S II General] jRi0T68:
Damn right, but this wait sucks.
[Galaxy S II General] TheBrandonWRX:
I could see a Qwerty version with something as minor as a megapixel upgrade to the camera. Fab the processor smaller add 200mhz to the cores and call it an upgrade. Smaller chips = more chips per wafer and cheaper since these are mature you can bet on lower power requirements and higher clock speeds, beefier camera is pocket change and plug in play and a J6P advertisement plus in time for the Holidays. TMobile and Samsung win here. Nexus 3 period.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
it would be sweet to have a QWERTY upgrade, but the down side of it, that will increase its thickness

i doubt they will go for it
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
Is the tmob version going to have mhl and hdmi? Or usb and hdmi? Dont like having just mhl all in one.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
that can only be found out with a hands on demo

lets see who can get their hands on one first :)
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
Pick me pick me! Im hoping sammy puts the hw acceleration and separate ports on there. Id rather have a qualcomm cpu/gpu combo. And i dont even have tmobile service.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
it will be me!! i will be posting on my google+ as soon as its in my hands....cant wait!
[Galaxy S II General] Dan_Brutal:
I will be getting the Hercules no matter what kind of processor it has. The phone has out of this world specs. And after seeing the commercial for the sgs2 line, no doubt. Sign me up.
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
Welcome to team hercules! Brutal!

quite a impressive hercules team! ecotox, allgamer and dan brutal!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] Danstek:
The Galaxy S 2 LTE variant has the 1.5ghz apq8060, a 4.5" screen and 1850mah battery and that phone runs fine. Tmobile's version will be practically the same, of course, minus the LTE radio. 42mbps HSPA+ doesn't sound half bad, if you're lucky enough to be in a coverage area.
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
Is the hercules going to have an oem extendwd battery?

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
it uses the exact same battery as the normal SGS2

more details here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17609781
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
i'm definitely looking forward to the faster network speed

most of the places i frequent runs very fast right now on my Nexus S

however, even at 4~5 Mbps i still feel it kinda slow

so with the new addition of the faster speed, then it'll offer more bandwidth throughput

the network is offering 4G soon, so having a faster (network) capable phone will definitely help :D
[Galaxy S II General] :
I will be getting this phone have had a been with htc for long time try to something new. Having htc first generation processor and also their second generation processor I don't think the dual core will be as bad as people think. Seeing how this phone will be galaxy 2. I doubt we see asynchronous cores like in the sensation. Can't get the prime cause 16 gigs of internal memory and no sd card support. Maybe if they put 32 gigs in it. As for ice cream sandwich ill probably run MIUI or CyanogenMod don't care for stock updates.
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
Yes but the back cover is bigger. Kind of pointless if it uses the same battery but no cover available.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
you are not making sense here

are you talking about those super huge 3800 mAh ugly batteries?

if that is the case, yeah, at the beginning they might not have them yet, but it takes ebay seller less than a month before they come up with the extended battery doors for those ugly super huge batteries that deforms the nice look of the phone

LOL :p

it's much easier to carry a couple of extra t989 Standard Battery (1850 mA) battery packs with you, than taking 1 giganting battery

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-L1D7IBABSTD

that's what i've been doing for all my past phones, it's more aesthetically pleasing, and convenient as you can charge the separate battery on the wall/laptop without interrupting your phone usage

in that case I'll suggest the HTC Sensation for your taste, it's a pretty good phone and stable even when OCed to 1.6/1.7Ghz

I'd have bough the Sensation if it came with SAMOLED+ screens

I'll only buy phones that have SAMOLED+ or better screens, going back to a LCD / SLCD is like a downgrade for me
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
No. I am wondering if samsung is going to make an oem cover for the 2000mah battery.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] :
I'm not getting the sensation simple is smaller than 4.5 and HTC has terrible camera and speaker. In the end a phone is a phone both run android speed won't be that different than a standard Galaxy 2 in speed.
[Galaxy S II General] hotadef:
I'm with team Hercules I can't wait now I got to see when I can upgrade
[Galaxy S II General] asmodyus:
75 Bucks were is this deal at thought it was 199.99?
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
as far as i know there's not need for a door change, if you use the original 2000 mAh battery for samsung

some of the ones you see advertised on the SGS2 section, are fake, and could damage the battery sensor, as some has reported already using those huge batteries

if you take a look at Samsung's US site http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories

the highest officially released by Samsung is 1850 mAh battery

now, there's talk that the official release of 2000 mAh from Australia might be available later this year http://samsung.mobilefulfilment.com.au/Products/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductVariantId=EB-K1A2EBEGSTD
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
first chance i get ill be buying a bigger battery or 2 for my hercules! I use the hell out of my phone and thats even double for my hercules!
[Galaxy S II General] SamsungVibrant:
Kal El is 5 cores, not 4.

Off topic I know, but did you guys hear that Nvidia's Kal El is actually 5 cores instead of 4. On top of that, the 5th core is ultra low voltage!

They were lying and keeping the 5th core a secret from the public and their competitors!

5 cores already, to be out very soon!
[Galaxy S II General] subzerold:
You guys are really amped for a horrible upgrade.

Worse processors and different meaning rom development is gonna flop.

No led notifications.

Horrible resolution on such a big screen... has anyone tried watching regular tv on a 60" hdtv ya that...

No kickstand on a huge phone.
[Galaxy S II General] SamsungVibrant:
I 100 percent agree, this phone is going to have zero development support after a few months.

STILL NO LED NOTIFCATIONS? REALLY?????? THANK GOD FOR NoLed App!
[Galaxy S II General] :
Overreacting qualcomm Processors have tons of support pretty sure majority of the sensation has gpu improvements will make its way over to this phone. ROM development is more or less based on popularity. The resolution can be better but will you can change the pixel density and using a launcher with more rows and columns. Source will most likely drop as soon as the phone is released. Also qualcomm is not necessarily worse than exynos. They are about equal as they both run android. The difference in starting applications won't be very noticeable. The sensation with cm7 seems to be blazing fast without sense. The phone will still be as good as any other phone.
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
Doesnt make any sense grammatically or logic. Try again.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] quest4fire:
42 mbps HSPA+ download speed is worth having Qualcomm over Exynos. IMHO
[Galaxy S II General] :
Sorry typing on a smartphone. What I'm trying to say is that the processors aren't really better than each other don't know what your running besides benchmarking apps. Benchmarks don't even prove anything. The sensation has had patches with can overclocked gpu o. I'm pretty sure it's going to be brought this phone. CM7 in the sensation shows just as fast as the qualcomm processor can be. ROM development is based on popularity not processors. Qhd isn't a big deal. Super amoled isn't either if you want your phone to make the icons smaller you can easily change the pixel density and row and columns layout with a different launcher.
[Galaxy S II General] subzerold:
Porting a galaxy 2 for international version to a tmo version is difficult to say the least. And as far as fragmentation goes just look at our vibrants... there's no stable gps or gingerbread roms and a horrible amount of rims compared to phones with 1 or 2 variants.
[Galaxy S II General] :
I really don't think we will see the same ports the Galaxy 2 has. We might see ports if the Samsung does it best trying to make this phone as similar to other galaxy variants. They probably will but to a certain point. What I want to know if this phone browser is hardware accelerated like other galaxy 2 variants.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
+1

Exactly my thoughts!
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
chances are we'll be seeing alot more HTC Sense ports over to this phone than you will ever will to see ports from normal SGS2

the best thing is CM7 is ready to roll, just merge with SGS2 tweaks and you are set

also Samsung always releases their sources
[Galaxy S II General] movieaddict:
i just want a confirmed release date for this beast!!!
[Galaxy S II General] :
Be honest sense is nice but since launcher pro plus and other apps you can have majority of the sense features. If this phone is able to have full featured sense ports with everything working. Then I can see development being better than the other galaxy 2 variants.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
agreed

specially after the video

now i'm so fired up and ready to head down to the store or wherever they have stock and get one
[Galaxy S II General] Jasonhunterx:
This phone is not a game changer an not being in a family like galaxy s was look at all the help that having multiple phones similar has done for us i think this phone is going to FLOP in the dev world
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
Well it might be. I think staying true to the unlocked versions design mightve helped but dont count it out yet. I think a lot of people are anxious to see how well this qualcomm SOC handles itself. If its not overclocked already, there might be the potential for these chips to reach 2ghz overclocked. And that would please the ObCo oc'ing crowd. Otoh though, qualcomm chips tend to undervolt very well. So potentailly these phones could go a long ways. And if they perform well, a lot of people might underclock to 1ghz, as well as undervolt to really stretch the battery. And the adreno 220 gpu is no slouch from what ive read. I dont have tmobile service but i am keeping an eye on this phone.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
for those interested in Hercules, we can use some input here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=14691166 to get its own forum ;)
[Galaxy S II General] jRi0T68:
Oct 12th release, according http://www.tmonews.com/2011/09/t-mobile-reveals-additional-details-for-galaxy-s-ii/

I'm eager to see confirmation of the DAC, and to mess around with it in person, but I'll likely be getting this.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
yup just read that on the other topic

still good to see additional confirmations :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zodac01:
Hi, I've been trying this guide and am having trouble with both methods.

Fastboot Method

I get into fastboot mode (where it's just at the hourglass screen), and type in "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img". The command prompt just says "Waiting for device", and never updates.

ClockworkMod Method

I installed the CWM I got off the Android Market, and then tried to reboot into recovery mode (both by rebooting through CWM and by pressing Volume+Up & Power). I just end up waiting at the hourglass screen like when it's in fastboot mode.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jajajim:
for fastboot try without battery inside (only usb) works for me:p

if fastboot wont work try methode 3. http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-a-custom-recovery-to-an-android-phone-device/

with extractet recovery.img from zip (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17496869)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zodac01:
Tried that too; didn't work. :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wallabyman:
Thanks, worked for me with fastboot on u8180
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ha1fman:
That happens to me too... I also noticed that in device manager is missing driver for Android 1.0? I don't know what to do next. Someone knows? Thanks

EDIT: It works ... download Pulse_Drivers_xp_w7_w764.zip from dc-unlocker (sry can't post link).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] renegade_82:
for linux users??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Maeur1:
just a note, the U8160 has a different USB hardware ID when in fastboot mode, and so inside 70.android.rules you need to add "12d1" and "18d1"

18d1 is the fastboot USB id and 12d1 is the adb USB id

This is for linux btw.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] renegade_82:
i've two questions for subpsyke:

it's planned update to cwm recovery 5?

Why don't knowledge Rom Manager cwm recovery in your cyano release for U8160?

p.s

sorry for my bad english, i'm italian's users ... ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SiL3nTKiLL:
thanks, needed this!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Maeur1:
Yea i got this problem too, in ROM manager, this recovery isnt detected, any ideas on how to get it?

EDIT: I flashed the IDEOS recovery through rom manager then flashed back this recovery, and now it works like it should.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chriscx:
EDIT: done, thanks a lot

for pulse driver, turn on phone, then press power + volume down, then plug usb, PC will search for a driver

fastboot is just: power button + volume down (and then it sticks on logo or hourglass) then open command prompt on pc

pulse driver:

http://www.mediafire.com/?l9zoonl8kygcejm
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jpcoke:
Hi there

I'm a windows user and i've downloaded the Sdk zip and there's no fastboot.exe on any of the folders... :|

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aripelx:
Download android-sdk-windows-1.6_r1

The latest sdk doesn't have it
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chriscx:
fastboot and recovery

http://www.wuala.com/freegroup/cyanogen/VodafoneSmart.zip/
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shfarrosesi:
u8160 cwm

iam havving problems around here

i need more instruction , i have the folder with recovery and fastbot ,but how to put tham on the phone ? i have rooted my device sucesfully iam stuck rebooting on recovery mode , i cant reboot as you show us , or enter in fastboot , please help me do it :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] asidhowz:
cant seem to find this version of the sdk to download, anyone got a link?

thanks :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GuestD1009:
I have a branded Vodafone Smart (U8160) and it stucks everytime at the hourglass screen. It won't get into recovery mode.

How do I fix this?

Edit: I haven't rooted it yet. Have I to do it before I could install CMW?