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[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Not a rumor - we have always known GB was coming. This is partly why Cubed had delayed his CM7 development.

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Throwing more cores at a device does not necessarily increase performance, either, unless the application base and operating system takes full advantage of them for multi-threading.

Case in point: Most hard-core games on a PC that came out over the past 5 years will run the same, if not better on a single or dual core machine as they did on a quad core. What really makes the difference is architecture, clockspeed, application architecture, and most importantly (assuming the apps use it) GPU implementation!

Assuming all apps were hardware accelerated on an Android, you would care more about the GPU then you would the CPU. Being that a lot of apps are not hardware accelerated, or take advantage of aggressive multi-threading, you may actually see a performance drop on the Bionic depending on the implementation of the devices core implementation (much like the scores from the Atrix showed).

The hype of more cores = smoother experience is bunk. It's just a spec and numbers war. More cores = possibility of more apps running seamlessly at once, but only if the architecture is there to support it.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Crappy screen

Horrible battery life

Locked bootloader

Check out droidforums.net and look at their Bionic forums. Nothing but issues.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
I completely disagree. android is moving to seamlessly support multicore processors better, apps will be right on its heels. Multicore is not bunk.

As for gaming...

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/x86-core-performance-comparison/benchmarks,128.html

There is not a single benchmark where the P4 660 HT could keep up with even the bottom feeder dual core amd processor. What you are saying was maybe the case when everyone was running Windows 98 or even XP but it is not the case today. Especially not in gaming where ATI and Nvidia both off load calculations to the open cores to be processed. Multicore rendering... is not a reference to multiple GPU's rendering... NVidia Physx in the drivers gives you the option to render on GPU (if you have more than one) or CPU (if you have more than one core).

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The screen being crappy to you may not be crappy to me. Also gorilla glass rocks.

Battery life is average and not horrid.

Nearly every smart phone released in the last 4 years had a locked boot loader

And having been purchased by Google... I think it will happen. It is also getting near late 2011...

I clearly see the Revo fanboism but why? Because it had a unlocked boot loader? What else did it have going for it? The specs were not stand outish, the screen is not gorilla glass, it is middle of the road at best in quality, battery life, stock was not great, better than the Tbolt but less than the charge... I guess I am not seeing why the die hard fight to the end attachment to a piece of metal and plastic. I bought a revo because I though it was better looking physically at the time then all the other phones they had. I mean look at this forum or the android forums most of the post are people expressing issues with the phone that is just the nature of a web forum for hardware of any kind.

Nothing personal but I just don't get die hard loyalty to a product you are going to replace in 2yrs with something completely new which you will take an equally aggressive protective stance for.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
I am not going to argue that the Revo is better or worse than the Bionic as spec wise the Bionic is a better phone and is $100 more because of it but just 21 days after its release it is stomped by the HTC vigor (Sept. 29th release date) with 1.5GHz dual core processor, 720p display, etc, etc. The bionic is not the end all be all, there will ALWAYS be better on the horizon.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
My bad, double post
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
Also, I'm not going to quote that last post as it was so long, but although you claim to not have an attachment to plastic and metal (even though there is a constant mention of the Bionic) I do see one to glass lol. Just so its out there, my boss a late 40's woman dropped her Epic 4g on impact resistant floor pad 1 time and cracked her gorilla glass. Another friend had a fascinate and shattered his screen. It is not that great. My fascinate had it and it feels the same to me, and I have seen plenty of complaints on this phone, but a scratched or broken screen has never been one of them.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
Vigor is going to be a great phone and yes something else will always be better that is kind of a no duh statement but for phones that I can walk in and buy right now the bionic is a better phone.

Really considering selling my revo and getting the vigor however I suspect Verizon is going to attach a huge price tag to it. (i'm thinking on 2yr $350)

As for glass, better is better. in overall testing gorilla glass holds up better and longer than a standard screen. If I was that attached to it as you suggest I would not own a revo.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
The attachment thing was meant more as a joke, hence the lol afterwords, I apologize if it was taken the wrong way. As a person with a background in automotive I have learned to NEVER trust "testing". Everybodies parts test better than the competition, so the only thing I trust is real world. I've got 2 close friends with gorilla glass that are broken and yet to hear of any problems out of the screen for the revolution to me that shows better for the revolution. Again don't get me wrong, I had a fascinate for 9 months and liked it and never had a problem with the screen, so there is that too.

I bet your right about the vigor price. I don't see how they would sell such a hyped up device like the bionic for the same price as a phone with much better specs. They will either sell the vigor for 350 or drop the price of the bionic to 250 when the vigor releases.
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
Mt I actually have a chunk missing from dropping my phone with a ZAG cover on t. would have been a lot worse without the cover and I don't it over the weekend again after missing my pocket. The phone hit on the top left corner, While looking at the screen, and cracked across my front camera. The phone landed on concrete both times and I don't blame the phone. I debating on getting a replacement but I don't want to have to worry about the OTA or the drgrading back down to V4 to root my phone again...
[LG Revolution] Carbon_Rink:
I'm holding out for the Nexus Prime. Will sell my revo then.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Have fun with that. Its not getting ICS by the way.
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
El what? Also, idk how I feel about a Sammy, aka no led notif light and odin...
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Yeah there was a post on droid-life.com that said the Prime is confirmed to be coming with 2.3 because Ice Cream Sandwich isn't even completed yet.
[LG Revolution] Carbon_Rink:
2.3 its still better than our 2.2 on this thing, and when ice cream sandwich comes out it will be (prime) the first to get it. There is no telling how long it will be before we get 2.3.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Gingerbread is coming next month. Prime will not be the first to get ICS. Not sure where you're getting your info but you may want to check your sources. Anyway, not to be an a** but development will pick up on this phone and you'll just be stuck with a locked down phone running Gingerbread.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
People made a lot of hype about the Bionic too and look where they are, locked down bootloader, people are having horrible battery life and tons of other issues.
[LG Revolution] Beamer9408:
While I agree with a lot you said development is happening very quickly with the bionic it has been.out like a week and it its already rooted (of course that came from the same exploit the droid 3 used) and they have already developed a bootstrap recovery which really only means you can make backups and custom roms (no kernel work) just saying the amount of developers working on this phone is amazing. But why they would choose such a locked down phone as opposed to one that is unlocked I have no idea. Which brings another question why would verizon and lg let the revo be unlocked and not the bionic?
[LG Revolution] Carbon_Rink:
You do realize the prime is supposed to be the same line as the nexus s and nexus one. They both were the first with froyo (nexus one) and gingerbread (nexus s). The prime is just the higher end nexus s. Those phones are the first to get updated, and there is no bloat ware on them. Google stock is best. It is 100 of what cyanogenmod is based off of.
[LG Revolution] jackpot08:
I might be able to get my hands on VS910ZV6.tot file. Just another rumor....
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
That would be nice!
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
That would be awesome!
[LG Revolution] Blammo79:
With the Boot Animation able to be reconfigured, is there any deevelopment with getting the boot.img from V6 (unless that is what is the .tot file above is referencing) since I am still having some issues with the V4 radio signal strength on the Revolt Rom.

Also, just to throw this out there (since I cannot post in the Dev threads), does the fact the CM7 is already ported to the Bionic help at all for porting the Bionic CM7 to the Revo? I know we are all waiting on an unofficial leak to Gingerbread to help the cubed in his development. Just thought I would ask..

Thanks to everyone for all of their help...I hope this rumour is true!
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
The tot file would be for the boot.img. The only other way to get the boot.img would be to get root on a phone already on v6 which would require a way into fastboot. I have not been able to find a way as the factory recovery is covered and hidden by the factory reset screen. Once you factory reset it just reboots and does not go into recovery. I may look into it some more this weekend.

As for cm7, the problem with us is being on froyo right now. Someone (thecubed) would have to re write all of the libs from scratch which is hundreds of hours of time. With gingerbread on the horizon hopefully, the libs can be ported over much easier. That's why the bionic may have it already (I haven't seen it though and I was looking in the development section today). Also the Droid 3 and bionic are very similar and easily ported over.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
Not to take this thread a different way again but I think we should look for root methods on 2.3 factory not just ripping out the guts of the update. I would like the radio updates that generally come with these. When my phone updated itself I noticed stronger performance from the radios before I went back to v4/
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
Got my hands on a Droid bionic today. Ran a quadrant with a stock in house revo and stock bionic. The bionic got 21** and the review got 18**. I ran on my phone and got like a 2089. Running revolt

1.4. Just a fair warning the bionic isn't that much better with the dual core than this phone
[LG Revolution] Blammo79:
now that we have the .tot file for V6, is there a possibility of extracting the boot.img and getting the new radio updates? I am new to the whole ROM process on android, so I am just curious what having the V6 .tot file will do for us.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
Quadrant does not calculate right with multiple cores try a different benchmark.

Try:

Antutu

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.ABenchMark&feature=search_result

or

CF-Bench

https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.cfbench&feature=search_result
[LG Revolution] jamRwoo:
Revobread? In October? That sends a thrill up my leg. :D
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
If I go to a Verizon store I will try it out again.

Sent from my revolting revolution. Powered my mtmichaelson.
[LG Revolution] imnotamorningguy:
I just read an article about the LG Esteem that's being released at metroPCS soon. They say its essentially the Revo but it comes with GB stock and uses the Optimus interface. Possible good news for the Revo community?

http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...revolution-is-coming-to-metropcs-with-4g-lte/

Sent from my VS910 4G
[LG Revolution] zero26800:
I hope so. This phone has a lot going for it and it would be nice to see it up to speed with the android version.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
It's funny you said that. If shipping software is zv4 and the update was zv6, do you ever wonder where zv5 went?
[LG Revolution] drt054:
Twitter reply from @vzw

I tweeted @VZW just asking if they know anything about Gingerbread update for the Revo.. they replied "At this time we don't have any info on Gingerbread for the Revolution. Sign up for alerts here bit.ly/hlA0CQ ^TH". I don't think this means anything other than they won't tell us until it is time. I just hope the people with "insider information" are more accurate.
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
If the version numbers for phones are anything like I think they are then V5 was experimental. Kinda like IPv4 and now IPv6 is coming out. IPv5 was extremely experimental and wasn't widely used.

Sent from my revolting revolution. Powered my mtmichaelson.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
I was hoping it was gingerbread for the Esteem ;)
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
Might be. Never know.
[LG Revolution] dskyers:
i work for metro and have it in front of me.. its nice im going to switch from my nexus s for this device
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
That's awesome! Want to pull the boot.img for me? ;) I have had the system dump for a week now, but can't do anything with out the boot.img. If you can't that's ok, I've got some others that will. Thanks!
[LG Revolution] imnotamorningguy:
If the two phones match closely enough, what would be the possibility of flashing a rooted factory ROM from the Esteem on the Revo? Might be a dumb question, just curious. When I had my Samsung Captivate we were running ROMs that were built based on the Samsung I-9000 so we could have gingerbread.
[LG Revolution] grmncrsnbr:
I'm hoping this can be done, really loking forward to runing gingerbread and hopefully a clean LGHome Free version comes too.
[LG Revolution] ivalum21:
The Thunderbolt is getting GB today....the Revo has to be soon....
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
I think part of the hold up was getting the esteem out with it then porting it over themselves. With us having zv4, the esteems test units coming with zv5 as gingerbread, then us getting zv6 as an update, i believe it is not too far off now. (My own opinion, nothing more, nothing less)
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
So......as most of you guys know, I started this thread based on some info that one of my buddies gave me that works for Tech Support at Verizon. Well now, after trying to look up some specs on this phone on the LG website. I noticed something I didn't see before while looking at the LG Revolution. Check it out and let me know what you guys think. I'm pretty sure this wasn't on the website when I got the phone 3 weeks ago.
[LG Revolution] aichrist:
Cool! Mid-october seems like so far away.

Here's the URL to the LG site if anyone is interested: lg.com/us/mobile-phones/LG-VS910.jsp
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
I've been reading that the update was pulled. Guess its super buggy. The people that did get it are stuck with a broken update I guess.

On another note I hope GB does come out soon. Maybe we can get a root for this phone for V6 or GB if and when we get the update.
[LG Revolution] drt054:
Once GB does come out and it works then TheCubed will continue on cm7 build.

sent from my Iconically Revolting LG Revolution powered by MTM :D
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Just another little piece of evidence that I found today. This was posted on an LG Forum, by an LG employee. This post was made on Sept. 29th. Sorry about the large pic, for some reason XDA wouldn't let me just upload the picture so I had to add it inline.
[LG Revolution] nukedawg:
Just saw the postings about the software versions for the Revo and thought I would chime in with some info if it helps any....

I got an Esteem on the 30th, I checked the SW version on mine and it shows MS910ZVA. Some people were having a few issues and LG rolled out a FOTA a few days ago (I havent got the update yet) which upgrades to ZVB.
[LG Revolution] jackpot08:
I don't know if this will help the revo community but I think I can get my hands in both of the flash files for the esteem.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
In the long run it would help us, but for right now it would help them tremendously to have some security to fall back on. I think us and the esteem community working together to make compatible roms will benefit e everyone in the end though. If you can get it just let me know!
[LG Revolution] chiperic:
Just wanted to say thanks to all you guys for developing the Revo and keeping us updated with GB news.
[LG Revolution] Cybie257:
I just came across a page that has a screen shot of release dates. It appears that the Revolution 2 will be released on the 20th of this month.

The part that has me replying is that this seems a little bit of a coincidence of timing. The rumors have been flying around for some time now that the GB Update is due for Mid-October. So, is it possible that Both REVO's will have the ability to run the exact version of OS? If So, then it's likely that the update will be released on the 20th along with the REVO 2..

It's only an opinion and hopeful thinking, so let's hope that this has some sort of connection for GB update in a few days! :)

Oh, The link to the release date image...

----> http://www.phonedog.com/2011/08/03/...otorola-droid-bionic-htc-vigor-and-many-more/

-Cybie
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
I had seen that before. Does anyone remember the date the Bionic came out? If those dates are the same and the same with the other phones on there then the Revo 2 release should be about the same way and be correct. I wonder if "the same" will line up like it is right now once I post this...

EDIT: No it didn't :(
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
That screen shot was totally wrong. Look at the dates... HTC Vigor 10/5/2011

Here it is the 17th and that phone has not released. Also several other phones in that image were supposed to be out and are not.
[LG Revolution] ballerv24:
The Droid X got it's Gingerbread update around the same time the Droid X2 was released and the X2 just got the update, so timing of the Revolution 2 shouldn't affect when the Revo gets its Gingerbread
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Just wanted to run this in the face of the people that doubted me from the beginning!
[LG Revolution] KaneOfMars:
Lol!

Sent from my ICS'd Revolt Bryce Device
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
I still don't believe you...

Revolting Revolution. Tapatalk.
[LG Revolution] Squiz0329:
Wow

Yeah, I'm Homeless.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Lol well people already updated so believe it. Haha.
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
Lol I already updated, just had to b a wise guy :-)
[LG Revolution] bhp117:
updated to GB> root> cwm> waiting for roms
[LG Revolution] Nihs07:
Is the install process for CWM the same after the GB update?
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
Cwm according to mt is having issues sticking. He will be working on a fix for it.

I've Revolted have you?? Sent via tapatalk plugin.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prosumerhacks:
hey guys,

wanted to ask a quick question? is noise cancellation available in stock KH3 rom for i9100? currently i use stock KH3 but cant seem to get noise cancellation menu during a voice call? pls confirm if its working/available in kh3 rom...

thanks!
[HTC Desire S] blindndumb:
Hey I am new to android and HTC Desire S is my first phone:confused::confused:. Well lets come to the point.

I want to root my phone and flash Sense 3.0 ROMS. After searching I found that I will have to S-OFF my phone (which can be done by RELOLUTIONARY) and the ROOT it (Which can be done by GINGERBREAK or SUPERONECLICK), but I am stuck with the procedures of doing it.

And how should I flash ROMS and what is the need to upgrade HBOOT and RADIOS for Sense 3.0 ROMS? Why is CLOCKWORKMOD Recovery important?

Can I S-ON again after S-OFF from REVOLUTIONARY?

Please help me out with whole procedure upto flashing Sense 3.0 ROMS(RCMIX 2.7 or 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 etc..)

My HTC Desire S ::

SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT - 0.98.0000

RADIO-38.03.03.14_M
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
All of these steps are covered in separate stages within this sticky thread.

[GUIDE] A Complete Tutorial for the Beginners and Others
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tevil:
I have tried a few rooted roms and each one seems to have some glitch or problem.

are there any 2.3.4 stock roms that arent deox'd or zip aligned? Just a plain rooted stock rom?

I have tried a few already but there is always some quirk.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jaxbot:
Hey.

I've been doing some development lately (mobile apps for work and the like), and I've notice something isn't adding up on my Mango'd Focus. From what it looks like, Microsoft didn't properly implement the file upload feature in IE9 Mobile.

So for those of you with Mango running devices, try the following:

-Navigate to http://windowsphonehacker.com/uploadtest.html (Short link: http://bit.ly/pFoFSM ) or any other site with a file upload form.

-Try to add a file to the form. In my experience, pressing Browse just highlights the whole browse box briefly and then stops, and pressing the text box to the left brings up the keyboard in a read-only text input.

Here's the source of the page, for those curious:

<html>
<body>
<form action='uploadtest.html' method='POST' enctype='multipart/form-data'>
<input type='file' name='testfile'><br>
<input type='submit' value='Submit'><br>
</form>
</body>
</html>

From what I can tell, Microsoft omitted implementing the file upload box. If this was an early build of Mango, I would be less concerned, but I'm starting to think that this bug may very well make it into the Mango RTM. If it does, this is some seriously bad news, especially for me as I would have to not support WP7 in my mobile site, which would just be embarrassing.

Can anyone confirm/add pointers?

Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] StevieBallz:
Same behavior on an Omnia 7 using the leaked Engineering Mango ROM (XXKH2).

Rather then a bug I believe it is like this by design as there is no filesystem access. Microsoft could theoretically enable you to pick images, videos or Office documents but this looks like they won't be going that route.

Does anyone know how iOS handles this?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Arktronic:
Confirmed on LG-E900 with 7720.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jaxbot:
Prior to Mango, you could select images for upload (eg, say you're on Facebook Mobile and want to share a photo you took with your friends).

Now there's no way to do that. It could be intentional, but I'm leaning towards a bug on this one.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Livven:
Same happens for me on HD2 with 7720.68. Could be intentional though - on iOS the file upload button is completely inactive (greyed out). Also, remember they removed find on page and forward, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was removed too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jaxbot:
I'll see if I can get anyone at MSFT to comment on it. After all, maybe it's one of Ballmer's 500 "features." (eyeroll).

I don't get why they removed forward, though. The IE9 browser is so much harder to navigate than the old one... feels like a step back to me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Livven:
I'd say it's intentional, especially considering how iOS handles this. Ditching the forward button seems consequent to me, even if not everyone may like it, but missing find in page is really bad.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tessut:
Same bug on htc trophy official mango rom but i think it has to do with the not implemented file explorer.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tb4:
Same behaviour on HTC HD7. Worked fine prior to Mango.