yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
I tried to put a skin from HTC Hub. Install fine and show up in Theme manager.

Сurrent rom is GeniRus_Salsa 2.0
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JieeHD:
Curious as to how much of this ROM is based on SalsaSense?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
video record in 480 x 320 don't work
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hirencj:
Plz post updates on first page.. Thanx great work Downloading ... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
Is this rom having the same problem as SalsaSense has ? And by problem I mean for example while playing SpeedX 3D the game runs fine for 10-20 seconds let's say and after that the Accelerometer stops suddenly and I hit a brick and i have to start the game over again. Damn it ! I can't wait for Tuesday to come so I can pick up my phone from the "workshop". I think my described problem has something to do that the phone has 25-30 MB of RAM free after flashing the rom. Soooo anyone tested games that use Accelerometer on this rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JieeHD:
Umm.. Don't mean to troll or anything. But can you tell me what these init.d scripts namely "memkill" and "memtweak" actually do?

From having a quick look all they seem to do is set up the AMM values a little lower which could easily be done in the init.rc, "memtweak" though is even more confusing, it checks for some certain apps and if they are present it exits and if they aren't does nothing..

So could one of you "developers" please explain their point?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] whitealien:
Hero can't record videos at that resolution. Maximum is 288 x 352 lol

If you see that option in camera it is because devs have not fixed that yet.

@Ciprilik - if you wona play games you will need to look for Froyo roms without sense or Stock rom.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] SummonerOfDeath:
Well, looks like the scripts don't do too much, but what we have to see Jiee, is that they actually fixed the sms bug in a very short time and added features SalsaSense didnt have, so we got to appreciate their work.. but well, i have to admit i liked your old AMM vales better. have little time now else i would cook some update zip for having ur values with the new rom, best of two worlds. u got more time? let me know, probably pm or stuff.

PS: its in 2nd post they dont use auto memory...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JieeHD:
I don't see any evidence in comparisson of both SalsaSense and this to show any changes in the internals of the ROM, I could be wrong but it doesn't look like anything has changed apart from the name of the ROM. If the dev wnats to PM me for a chat then feel free. But in all honesty what you've all experienced is known as a placebo effect.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stroobach:
this is a bit strange..

you think that a small bug fix compaires a lot of fixes that Jhiee did?

like BT bug

WiFi bug

incomming call bug

or scripts for speed more ram faster ui better performance

im not a professional ported or dev.. but even i can take an almost fully working rom .. fix some stuff,. and say that im a dev..

i dont attack you or GeniRus but... in my opinion its like stealing...

its maybe like

stealing a candy in the store.. no big deal.. its still stealing..

in my opïnion its a matter of respect..
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
We do not presents this ROM as something new! We've answered this question and can repeat that this is just an extension of salsasense. We wrote that salsasense used as a basis. Your contribution is immense in this ROM! This is our first experience and what we are doing this just desire or attempt to make the ROM work primarily for themselves. We treat with respect to you and your work. If we get something we'll be happy if it would help the development of other ROM including salsasense. Our goal on this ROM in the first place is to try to overcome his voracity to use PAM. We did not climb much deep in the ROM and try to solve this problem on the surface.

Sorry for my English
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] konexana:
do you have any pictures of this rom? :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
Pictures of this rom are like SalsaSense
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Hintay:
Why had use my scripts but not show my name??!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
Sorry, we did not know the author's script. Thank you! It deserves great respect
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JieeHD:
To be honest, no one on these forums will mind you using their work in your ROM. As long as you give them credit for it somewhere in the OP, it is actually a rule in XDA and a pretty big one at that. Just letting you guys know.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
JieeHD, we are pleased that you have returned and are waiting for you new ideas about the development of SalsaSense! Our work was a kind of protest against your long inactivity. We are real fans SalsaSense and will be happy to develop it! For his work, we have not raped a penny, I will repeat what we did in the first place to yourself! Problems as those described in the forum you have never been, and messages always reach ROM always worked a little faster. Our goal was not to get rich at the expense of the ROM and show that we can still barely squeeze out of it for performance! We were interested to hear your thoughts! Lastly I would say that it's not just in the script! We are closing this project for the benefit of SalsaSense ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mahmoud200001:
screenshots plx .
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hirencj:
Just now flashed JieeHD Salsa Sense 4.0 it gives around 50-70 mb free ram, but applications does not run in background...

(what development for the ROM has stopped!!!! :( )
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
Maybe we'll do something else for this ROM! Thank you for your hopes for us!;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Olean:
whats going on with the rom? is it dead
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JieeHD:
Tbh the only thing I planned on adding to SalsaSense was the beats audio software.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Kirill143:
We must stop the project because JieeHD is taken back to work and we'll help him if he is not against of course.

If there is salsasense, the meaning of our firmware is not so much.

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Well this is also a good idea))
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dr.dre:
TBH I really liked your work and the ROM and using it for 4 to 5 days it felt a little faster than salsa sense and other little bugs like widgets won't apply on the homescreen etc. were also fixed. I would love to see you guys carry on working on this ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
Well, we'll try to do something more for you :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JieeHD:
In all honesty I'd rather you took over SalsaSense, I've started university which is why I've no time for development anymore really. I'd be glad to send you the files for the beats software that needs testing.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
Joy to the world ... more devs start working together :D ty all for keeping the Hero alive :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Habarug:
If you decide to continue this project, here's the fix for USB tethering with Las Venturas/x kernel: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16990160#post16990160 ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Kirill143:
it would be great. We work because for the sake of their own development and in order to bring joy to others a hero.

If you do not mind and you want to help all of us, all I think would be pleased.

And in turn we will be glad if you will sometimes help us (if possible) and pledge to devote all of you in our plans.

If that is waiting for you in PM

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thanks for the help!):)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hirencj:
wow Geni_rus team and JieeHd working together will surely bring a great rom for us thanku guys you Rock :) !!! my old hero will too rock with this ROM :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
Sorry this is not working
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
Thanks for the reply.

Looks like TTS is not working on GB Sense ROMs (both SalsaSense and Wildfire) so far.

Without Text To Speech, certain apps like google navigation and gps tracking apps will not have voice feedback. Voice feedback is very useful in providing navigation guidance especially when driving.

Google navigation also did not work in this ROM, btw.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lirasina:
The Dutch TTS works fine for me, When I am using it on my phone with navigation. Not that I got a drivers license XD Still a litttle bit to young for it. But when I was in the car with my dad it worked just fine.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Hero user:
Try in progress ..down loading

It is support Arabic ?? هل تدعم العربية ؟؟
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
Hmmm...strange...you sure it was Google navigation that was working on your phone? I'm pretty sure that the built-in default Pico tts is not working. Unless you are using another navigation app (may be Sygic or something else) that is using it's own tts.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dr.dre:
For me the battery life on 2.0 is very low as compared to 1.0, It doesn't even lasts a day for me where as on 1.0 it use to last me to a day and a half to two days.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] hirencj:
Devs when are you going to Start Development again? waiting waiting......
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Kirill143:
We are working .....

that it is better to release more without significant changes or later, but with a great contribution?))

we think it is better not to hurry))
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rdejager:
It works for me aswell, on google navigation, and since I know lira first hand, and she travels with me from time to time. (movie yesterday) and she is still running this rom and she was the navigator. I can say it works on her phone fine.

I must add I do put some usuall stuff in a rom before actually flashing it. did the same on her phone. But I do not put TTS stuff in it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stefpaul:
Guys no hard feeling but after some days of testing the ROM, SalsaSense 4.0 kicks this release... good work on the rom btw but it lags more and it isn't stable for daily use...

Stefan:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
I agree, it was very disappointing in speed. but after all of the background syncing was done it got quite fast for a while. then after a few hours it got slow again, but without the backgroudn sync causing it.

however since it's basically the same rom I'm curious why the performance isn't as good. maybe there is more multitasking going on in this rom than in ss4? if apps are killed off faster, less (maybe almost no) multitasking will result in a much faster phone.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stefpaul:
Exactly...so i started using Eles Android 2.1 with sense and the phone works very well...i'm waiting for my tablet to deliver... and after this, i don't know if i should change the hero with a new phone, or leave it because i have a tablet...

Stefan:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] SummonerOfDeath:
the new status bar settings menu is absolutely awesome, could u make an update zip so i can use it in my "modded" roms? (dont be afraid i'm no dev i wont steal your work) ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Kirill143:
We all are glad someone is trying to help)

if you want to consolidate their efforts in the header then write to me)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dr.dre:
I'm really sorry to ask this, But when can expect a new version ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kriso89:
hi i flash the rom and the first thing i found is that the when someone calls me the phone isnt ringing or sometimes vibrates and rings for only a second ot two, but not every time..... othertimes works just fine :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
i ask too when we can expect a new version ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
&

There is no ETA for rom releases and there will never be ... the dev said something about releases here
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Kirill143:
Soon I will gather the light version)

In the meantime, try the 3.0, guys, we tried)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
cool, exciting!

will try this soon.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lirasina:
Will do the same and maybe make a lite one my own :D and release a script people can use. maybe... XD

BTW the changelog is kinda overall, I am wondering what kind of things you did to improve it actually :P But I will find out soon enough :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
which is best kernel for this rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] AdmcPL:
Is this WWE rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] CSL00:
Just flashed 3.0, good speed, some multitasking (the best the hero's hardware can handle on gingerbread sense so far). Found my new daily driver, thanks to all devs behind it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
I do not recommend modifying the kernel

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This is not a WWE Rom. It may be in the future

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Pay attention to Rosie.apk :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dr.dre:
So far So good! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] f-lexa:
This is not a WWE rom, but includes Polish language.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] I7V:
the new release is very fast thanks voted excellent
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] skyfisker:
Nice work man, but would you plz upload roms with some mirrors? not everyone can use megauploads, so I can download and flash ur rom, many thx
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
Ok We'll add other mirrors
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
Most newer ROMs would use the more up to date LX6.2 or Fly13 Kernel.

Strange that your ROM is still using Las Venturas 5.0 :confused:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
i flashed Fly13 and all is normal
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
So any feedback after flashing Fly13? Any better in performance?

Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
We were not testing for other kernels ROM. While for us it is not in the first place! We are trying to make a fast ROM. This is our main task :)

If you change the kernel does not affect the ROM. Why change it? If there is a kernel that will make fast ROM we will be happy to do it in the ROM )))
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
I don't see difference
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pskin132:
Hi

I find fly13 kernel equal performance to las venturas but on the up side a lot better battery life.

Btw "Juice defender Ultimate improves battery life on the hero so much" !!!! Try it..
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jaychou8899:
i can't flash it by Rom manager. I have to flash from clockworkmod. Is there any bugs with this ROM???
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jaychou8899:
so slow!!! keep going.Thanks for this ROM
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
there are features missing from lv5 that are in lv6.2 and in fly13 so it might be a good idea to use a newer kernel just to get extra features. I don't recall WHAT those features are however, I think some type of tethering is one of the features.

This rom works really well but is still just a tiny bit too slow for lots of trouble free delay-free responsive interaction. however it's fast enough to use on the phone daily if you can put up with those slowdowns and delays sometimes.

kudos to jieehd for the rom and this thread's dev for the extra work he's doing to try and learn the rom and make more changes.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] CSL00:
Really? I'm using it with Las Venturax 0.6.2, set it to ondemand 264 min 614 max and it's slightly slower than eclair sense.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
I tried the ROM but just can't put up with the slowdown and delay that often happen from time to time...and the almost frequent sense reboot after exiting from some apps.

I like Sense ROMs.

But it appears that atm, Eclair Sense (VR13, Kimera, etc) without a doubt, is still the fastest, most reliable but just a bit dated and that some apps just won't work with Eclair.

Ginger Sense is just too heavy for Hero.

Something in-between like Froyo Sense would be nice (example HeroLatte, but development not progressing anymore)

To the developers, thanks and great effort, nevertheless.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
I tried 2.2 with Sense and did not notice much difference in performance. Hero memory also is not enough for 2.2. I had to set Auto Memory because the alarm did not work in the morning sometimes. Multitasking there too small.

I use every day GeniRus_Salsa and I'm happy! Of course it is not ideal but we will do everything to make it so. I think this ROM is better than 2.2, IMHO

This ROM is a bit faster if you delete unused apks :) We do on this version of LIght
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dr.dre:
Does anybody have a solution for the Sense restarts because its really irritating and it happens everytime I press the home button from any app even the phone app.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
It's strange but problems with the Sense I have not, I do not understand that the correct... I'm using the default kernel!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
I had that problem but after restart rom work perfect
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dr.dre:
Even I'm using the default kernal

I also restated the phone but after a while the problem started again
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
I 100% agree. You summed it up perfectly. And those sense reloads and occasional rather large slowdowns make it unfit for an actual phone that is used for phone calls and regular quick information checking/sending. but it sure is a pretty user interface!

the salsa rom(s) is/are faster than this one, and they are still noticeably slower than eclair sense. I think anyone claiming this is nearly as fast as eclair sense are talking about general responsiveness when this rom ISN'T in one of it's very frequent slow-draggy-unresponsive-systemPleaseWaitOrFCAlert-SenseWhiteScreenReload situations.

It's just like salsasense was in it's first version. Now if this rom can be improved to the point that salsa sense has gotten to, I think some users would be quite happy with it.

I'm back (again) on VE6 because it's 100% instantaneous in responsiveness. The perfect rom. Quite a bit faster than eclair sense also. Also the camera and video recorder in ve6 are very obviously WAY better (much lower motion blur and higher video framerate on screen) compared to all eclair sense roms... surprising, but true.

But I will keep trying new versions of this rom as they come out because I just love the UI and features included :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
does have any chance to install friend stream from this rom on 2.1 sense rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
I used the default kernel also, didn't install any apps, rebooted and so on, but I got plenty of sense reloads.

It's why JieeHD spent so much time messing around wtih the memory management settings to try and get the rom so it could run more than one app at once (hard in thse bulky sense roms) while still being responsive and also trying to keep sense from being killed by android's memory manager (Which should never happen but does still happen when available ram gets exhausted).

If you go through the salsasense thread you'll read exactly the same posts that people are saying about this rom (since, of course, it's the same rom). and there never was a perfect solution. This is why JieeHD finally moved onto non-sense roms.

But if anyone wants to try a really reliable sense rom that has a newer android version underneath, install chocolatefroyo. it's 2.2 sense, and for the person who claimed otherwise, the hero actually does meet requirements for froyo when you look at the phones that were upgraded to froyo after a while. Chocolatefroyo is like eclair sense (no fancy new sense features, unlike erasmux's froyosense rom) but has better software compatibility than hero 2.1 sense and better fundamental OS features because it's actually froyo running underneath it all. You'll just have to accept that the dev left the hero before solving a couple of bugs with hardware features, and for some reason nobody has taken on that project to try and solve it.

Instead devs keep trying to squish huge roms into an impossibly small space, like salsa and 3.5 sense.

cheers :-)

YES I'm cranky today - sorry LoL :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] CSL00:
Of course I meant responsiveness, the hero won't run gingerbread sense without compromises (multitasking, launcher reloads etc), eclair sense - as complete as it is - is not compatible with most apps I use, so I moved to chocolate froyo which needs tweaking and fixes but is to me the best compromise (because i hardly use camera) on froyo sense. On SalsaSense I had to OC to 352 min 633 max (at least), on this i use 264 min 614 max so to me who OCs as little as possible this is better.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] AdmcPL:
Why this rom uses only 190 MB of ram? HTC Hero has 288 MB of ram AFAIR.

adam@kubuntu:~$ adb shell free -m
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 190 168 22 0 0
-/+ buffers: 167 22
Swap: 0 0 0

If you add support for all Hero's ram we'll get huge performance improvement and less sense reloads.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
If I come to think of it, all Roms use 190MB of RAM ... I wonder why ... I forgot the hero has 288 MB of Ram and not 190
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] aptemka-74:
RAM distributed as follows:

A

- OS Loader (operating system)

- Radio module

- The configuration matrix of the various devices

B

- Libraries, Frameworks OS

- Libraries, Frameworks UI (interface)

- Applications, which are set to autostart

The remainder of that RAM Free

RAM = A + B + RAM Free

Total RAM = B + RAM Free

PS Today has been Sense restarts :( I think how to fix...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] AdmcPL:
Android 2.1 reports there's 288 MB of RAM. 2.3.3 reports there's only 190 MB. Something's wrong then.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] I7V:
p.s emptying the screens from the widgets improve the speed of the rom a lot use two or the three screens for the widgets to improve the speed
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] CSL00:
If the number of screen can be reduced to 5 the available RAM will increase a little, I remember this being an option in one of the tegro ROMs.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
no. only something that was fixed in 2.3.3 compared to 2.1. 2.1 was correct however was misleading to the end user, as you've just experienced. 2.3.3 is not literally correct however is much more relevant to the end user since so much "ram" on android devices is used by radio and so on (as the dev noted in a previous post).

So there is nothing wrong, just that android has changed it's information display to be more useful and less confusing to end users in 2.3.

Hopefully there will no longer be users asking incorrectly-informed questions such as "can you please use all of the ram so this rom will go faster".

This rom (actually a "rom" should be called firmware, to be accurate) uses the hero's ram as efficiently as any other rom and there is no top limit being set by the developer LoL.

The only problem is that sense 3 and sense 3.5 and gb sense don't work properly in such limited memory space. Whether you call it 288 or 190 MB it's still the same memory amount, just that you're not including the other system software using up your phone's memory if you say that android should have access to 288MB.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Kirill143:
thanks for the explanation, I hope all users correctly understand:)