yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Charge] evan30:
like shrike1978 said above, just download the rom of your choice and it will be prerooted for you unless you odin flash a straight stock package.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ageusz:
Hi All,

I have been searching a lot to find the answer, but unfortunately I haven't.

I have Xda Ignito, I installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 (Polish version) and everything would be fine, but widget for Messages doesn't work. If I change the default action to 3D view - ok then. But I dont want it, cause it is pretty slow and inconvenient. Even Start -> Messaging is not working while SPB is running. What could be the problem ? Is SPB overriding some WM command? How to fix it?

Sorry for my English.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manrock111:
Hello i have both galaxy S/Sl

i have search a lot on net and also found some video teeling it can make video call then dont it make video call on my phones.

problem is whenever i tried to make or recieve video call to galaxy s. Error comes out "Unable to make video call"

Whereas i can make video call from sgsl to my n73

any idea or suggestion?

Does it support video call?

I am on darky's 10.1
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insanedreamz:
Video calls via 3G network? Make sure you and the person at other end has 3G connectivity as well as 3G/Video calling plans active. Apart from that gtalk now supports video calls! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manrock111:
Thanks for your reply but yes both of my hand set and network are 3g but still not able to make calls from my sgs.

If all other sgs members able to do so then I will upgrade to latest darky's rom.

Please provide your feedback.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insanedreamz:
First check that the video calls on new gtalk/skype/tango app works or not. And also make sure from Darky rom users about video calling on 3G...

I'm not using 3G, so can't help more.. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rockingdo:
My First ROM

Galaxy DX

Benefit of installing this ROM:

1.Deodexed

2.init.d Script support

3.BusyBox

4.Superuser(ROOTED)

5.New Apps

6.New Launcher

7.Lockscreen

8.Custom Bootanimation

9.Bash Support

10.framework-res mods

This File Doesn't Work Via Recovery. See the method below. HOW TO GET ROOTED: xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1156204

Steps to Install:

1.Download the file (Do not Extract)

2.Download Android Commander and then set it up for use

3.Connect your mobile to your PC. Make sure of USB Debugging

4.In the toolbar in android commander there is flash option click it. Select the update file.

5.Flash it

6.Reboot.

Please post screens for me please Thanks.

Factory reset required

Completely transformed ROM

Make sure you make backups.

WITHOUT WARRANTY I AM NOT LIABLE FOR DAMAGE

Link: http://www.multiupload.com/RBWVF60LZC

THIS ROM WILL WORK ONLY THE ANDR COMMANDER WAY NO STOCK RECOVERY WORKING

Android Commander

Windows: www.androidcommander.com

Linux: www.xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=684792
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rajrocks:
can v install it by odin ????

or wich tool if any other tool pless give d link ..:D

n where is d link of this rom ????
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rockingdo:
No ODIN this is a update zip see the method and the download links above
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] justkiddinghere:
downloding :)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] ajooba123456:
is it overclocked also ??????????

if itsnt can u please add this feature in your rom
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rockingdo:
Try this app for overclock CPU Master (Free)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] ajooba123456:
for using this overclock feature the kernel has to be modded have u modded it ???????
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rockingdo:
Oh sry frgt that no i wont be including the overclock any time soon
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Gendows:
is it based on XXKQ2?

and screenshots plz :)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] raj3534:
Downloading..is it just another deodexed rom like v have pratyush's vishvanath's inv athority's or it has any added feature..well im using pratyush rom with kak tweak and supercharger script and score upto 1540 which ranked 2nd interms of performance..guys we actually need somw performance tweaks not just another deodexd rom..we need 2 overclock our device to get most out of it..
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] justkiddinghere:
aftr step 4 i didnt got wht u said how to flash

there is no option in android commander to flash etc

i did click on flash nothing hpnd:mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rockingdo:
No it is based on ASIA firmware
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rockingdo:
Ill just post a pic where it is
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] raj3534:
Here im attaching screens of antutu benchmark 1st one is my screens with score and second one is screen of winner's score..sd card speed i can also increase its not a big deal but the he get 130+ in cpu float point and mine is just 17 ..can anybody tell how he did that
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] raj3534:
Try searching google to know how to flash via android commander
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] pratyush.creed:
Everything got correct but then Installation aborted!!
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] justkiddinghere:
same here didnt got how to install

the flash option not appearing to click

:(
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] justkiddinghere:
dude m not a mad

i alredy did tht

there is nthng on google :P
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rajrocks:
can u add screen shots...
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Gendows:
i think that this rom need more work from u before posting it :)

at least make it load via recovery and fix the installation problems too ;)
[HTC Sensation] weedspirit:
Hi i'm sure it's a noob question ( cause i'm a noob) :D .

Is that possible to made an .RUU from my clockworkmod backup ?

Cause i can't find the RUU_Pyramid_Vodafone_FR_1.35.163.1_radio_ 10.43a.9007.00u_10.51.9007.27_M3.

I need to changing back to S-ON and return my device.

Ps: sorry for my poor English.
[HTC Sensation] CdTDroiD:
Short answer: No you cant ;)

You should be able to flash a unbranded ROM if you dont need that specific one
[HTC Sensation] EddyOS:
Best thing to do is:

1. S-OFF using Revolutionary and install CWM

2. Competely wipe you stock ROM (so it's like it's out the box - maybe do a backup of your apps with Titanium Backup)

3. Do a nandroid

4. Go about your business with new ROMs

Then, should you need to go back to stock, you can:

1. Restore the nandroid

2. restore stock CID (If you changed to Super CID)

3. S-ON again to get back to 100% stock
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
I am porting applications from x10 to our x8 devices and later make a rom for it. For now I have ported 85% of the dialer.

Here are some screenshots and apk

Here are instructions how to install it:

1.Download Contacts.apk from the attachments

2.Transfer it to your SD Card

3.Using RootExplorer copy the file to:

System/App/

4.Then long click on Contacts apk and select permissions

5.Then set the permissions like shown on the screenshot:

7.Reboot your phone

Now you should see two new icons in your app drawer for contacts and dialer

Please give me feedback. This should work on any 2.3 or later android versions. ( I have not tested if it works on 2.1 and 2.2 but it probably wont )

Soon other applications will be ported and then made as a rom.

UPDATE:

0.5

Made the bottom bar even smaller. Fixed the dialer so it will extend to all the wight . Added letters to the numbers. fixed the size of quck links ( when you click on a contact picture )

0.2:

I have made the bottom bar smaller and also almost fixed the contacts view

If you like my work you can donate to me via paypal.. Even 1$ will make me happy
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
hey dude!!!

Keep up the good work!!, this is exactly something i wanted, the dialer and if u make a rom of it with some other x10 apps then great!! :D!

And it works very well! :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Edward Kachenko:
Nice share!

I'm waiting for you rom:D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
yh me2!! and i hope u can add many more apps.. :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Do you think i should make the bottom buttons smaller? ( contacts , favorites etc )
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
yh u can a bit, i was thinking myself they were a bit 2 big. If its possible can u move them a bit down so they r in the middle of the blue box..? :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Siso93:
hi everybody :D

i've installed it and it's nice but i've deleted phone.apk (DO NOT DO IT) because it is a service which brings telephone to x8 xD

now not to reinstall all the rom i've put phone.apk in /system/app folder

but NOW i've to know which permission needs

pls go to root explorer choose phone.apk and post here what permission it has

pls pls :D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Hi Siso93 sorry my bad you should not delete phone.apk (yet)

I will fix the tutorial
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] erick_shadow:
It looks great instead of bringing the rom

You could also edit the message? Has a better view than the default
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
erick_shadow if you are talking about the first post i already did. If not what message are you talking about? The message application?

Oh and another thing can everybody tell me the rom you were using? So i can add it to the first post.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Edward Kachenko:
hmm, see the fonts contacts "search", it is too small :(

@Hamzai82, maybe I can port, but not easy
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Siso93:
well, pls tell me these permissions!!!!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Siso93

Permissions for what? You only need to put permissions to contacts.apk like in the first post and you are done
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zephiel:
The screenshots is broken. :(
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] wtosett:
help

Sorry for my bad English, but I can not run it like the pictures. I did all the steps but I have the path system / app / (folder) I only system / app.

Can you help me? thanks :confused:
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
wtosett

Thanks i will fix the tutorial so people are not mislead like you did

you have to put contacts.apk in only system / app

not in only system / app / Folder

zephiel

The screenshots are not broken maybe your Internet provider is blocking http://imageshack.us
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Salo-S:
I want to install this Contacts.apk, but I have a fear ...

I'll lose my contacts? : (
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Edward Kachenko:
You must open it from PC ;)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Kurinkita:
Don't worry, all your contacts will remain in the phone book. The only thing that will change with this contacts.apk it's the UI of the dialer, phonebook, log and favourites. Nothing else is changed/affected.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] override187:
Great work man just continue this way and maybe is better to tray porting from

xperia mini it have same resolution as x8
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] q_silverflame:
cool work bro. cant wait for the release rom :D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zephiel:
Ok, I viewed it using Dolphin Browser and I can see it now.

Sorry for being noob. It looks cool, bit a little more optimization

for our screen will be awesome. :D Gj!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] DaXmax:
Hey nice job, i hope u can fully resize it...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] erick_shadow:
If I refer to the original application message that brings the ginger, is that you wonder if you can bear so that it can be used in the rom

I use GX 5
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] q_silverflame:
ive follow your instruction on installing the contact.apk, but everytime i try to open the phonebook or the phone, it FC. do u know y?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
nice..thanks and keep it up bro...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] erick_shadow:
It worked perfectly except that there are some very large icons leaving if you can change would be much better.

I hope and have the time to carry the messaging app, keep it up mate
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] StormIceX:
I can't see contact info. When i tap on contact doesn't appear anything

Inviato dal mio X8 usando Tapatalk
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] pancham864:
My rom is GingerCruzt-- Android 2.3.5... I am not able to use root explorer... it just FCs... so i used Super manager.. but no use... help me
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] DaXmax:
U need infinite view...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] DaXmax:
Get an updated root explorer... And set perm...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] chuan1311:
alri man:))nice work:))and can you put more x10 apps to x8??like message app:))but anyway nice work:)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] romanalien:
I may be wrong, but isn't it easier to port 2.3.3 apps from mini pro dump, as it has the same resolution as our x8?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Update:

Check the first post for screnshot of the changes and download.

Later today i will upload v0.3 and maybe some new apps if they are ready
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] StormIceX:
what is?(10chars)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Don't worry StormIceX i will port infinite view too :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] wtosett:
Thanks, but I do not understand why the dialer does not funziona.Cosa I wrong? Can you help me? thanks : Confuso:
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] chuan1311:
what is stormicex??
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] DaXmax:
Is a username...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] AntwnhsAnt:
Awesome work! I'm looking forward to the other apps! :P

I'm using GingerDX and it's working great!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] copper62472:
why x10? xperia mini isnt better???

xperia mini resolation same as x8 . isnt better ?to port apps and building rom?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] joe8056:
It's work nice for me, I'm using GDX V013.

Would you also make more 2.3 Stock Xperia app?

ex: weather widgets, music app, music widgets, message app etc. Thanks.

sorry my bad English:)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] StormIceX:
Can i install this app with another name and use my stock app whit this?

Inviato dal mio X8 usando Tapatalk
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] chuan1311:
when will be done the other apps??:)))
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] copper62472:
I think u have to do it , this dialer need orginal dialer and contact app to work.

when i freezed stock's it didnt work.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zephiel:
Will there be an update.zip in the near future?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Well yes soon i will provide a CWM update.zip :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] littlekura:
This just my little modif contactx10 by Tonev.. :)

you can see at attachment :D

this great contact i like thiss..thankks Tonev :)

note*

attachment

this contact porting by tonev

contact.zip > flash with xrecovery

CWM maybe i will make too..

and at picture not yes finished and upload..still stuck edit at button search..

if you want try my little modif..PM i will upload that..

i just little noob about android..so i sorry if i wrongg CMIIW

sory my bad english
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
littlekura Thanks for the mod :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] erick_shadow:
We still hope that can carry the message app
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
I will do the message app. I am still working on infinity view because currently you can show contact information.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] erick_shadow:
This very well, is expected to have for all of you because if it is ugly in adding roms
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] littlekura:
your welcome master :D

btw..can you give me hint about field search..i try resize..but not perfect,like at my picture..thxx beforee :D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] ParadoxGuy:
AWESOME job! :)

Aside from the blue wavy background, why not a transparent or black one?

Just a suggestion. :)

I look forward for more, sir! :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] D-SHEL:
Many thanks :)

So, I think port xperia mini (pro) apps better than port x10 apps. Xperia mini (pro) apps optimized for HVGA. You don't need to port graphic :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] chuan1311:
black background is **** :) :) :D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] mastermikeywwt:
Works perfectly on gingerDX thanks a bundle =)

EDIT: It doesn't sync properly with Facebook. So far I know that the contact photos don't sync on my phone for some reason. Not sure if the numbers no longer sync.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] GreatApo:
The default GingerDX (v13) phone book also work with Greek letters. This one no. Big disadvantage... and it seems it will not work on other characters too...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] xcal_tau:
i think the x10 stock message app is cool to be ported!

thanks
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] BIG JD:
Dude do u want se recovery&restore as I have it allread ported it and its working

super.sense on x8
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
The dialer? Or my dialer in another rom? Becuase i have made even more progress today i will upload some stuff.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] arkwik:
Not working on gingerdx v013. Maybe odex is a problem.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] milenkokg:
Hey mean! Very good....rom will excelent?:-):-)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] milenkokg:
Working on ginger xperia
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Updated check fist post.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] erick_shadow:
Does not account options and synchronization settings found in

And the app still waiting for messages to get the full mod
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] chuan1311:
when your rom will be ready??:))
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
anymore progess, tonev? :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] ashichmin:
problem with installation photos contact X8 DX 0.14
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zephiel:
I want to try this but it seems like the InfinityView is not yet ported, and also the Messaging. Go tonev! This will be awesome replacement for the stock Gingerbread Phone and etc. Keep it up.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] arikos:
Keep up the nice work
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
You can install infinite view apps bro...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zephiel:
Can you see the Message Tab there? I want to try it but I can't find it. ><
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
Yes.. I'll upload later the one I'm using.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] zephiel:
Thanks! :D I'll wait for it.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Well you can all use the apk from other roms that have it if you want i can share it to but it won't be x10's apk (yet it is hard to port but i am going to :) ) If you want i can share the track ID apk
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
yh thanks, u can share the trackid. :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
Try this one bro... www.4shared.com/file/1s1J-VVZ/InfiniteView.html
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Nexa:
Hello mates, I installed GingerXperia V7 on my phone, and I am trying tu insert stock dialer and phonebook, but my phone is showing this error in the image below. Any help would be appreciated.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Are you inserting the dialer from the 2.3.x ? Because if you are inserting the dialer from 2.1.x or 2.2.x it won't work. And you are copying the file to system/app right? Because if you instal the apk the normal way there might be problems. And also you should remove the old dialer and phonebook too.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] stranded.eu:
Thanks for the apps!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Nexa:
Yes, I installed this dialer that you have posted, I copied it with root exploerer into system/app, but i didnt remove old dialer. How to do that?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] romanalien:
Here is the stock eclair keyboard for 2.3 (flash via xrecovery)

Link in link.txt
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
Thanks do you want me to add it to the first post?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] romanalien:
Not at all, you can if you want to, the only thing that there is also tachpal keyboard and it doesn't work, so could you please download the zip and delete that keyboard, and after that post it at 1 post? Thx
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Paul1989:
...............
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Bakabon19:
need more app,not only contacts.apk......
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Paul1989:
sense apps

i will be opening a NEW thread today in which i have ported all apps from sense rom 2.1 there will be sms apps contacts dialer the lot ill post link asap thanks guys :D

---------- Post added at 02:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18140923#post18140923

go to that thread for FSTER progress people :D will be uploading as im porting okay :D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] chuan1311:
but we can have stock sms on x8 from x10 aswell??because in custom sms is horrible..please make this apk for x8 aswell...
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Antique_Angel:
Hello. I am using GingerXperia on my x8. I did everything you told to do and after all everything I get is Force Close.

Any solution?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] hamsargol:
Thanks for the apps!
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Dexter_prog:
Contacts 0.5 didn't work for me. Force closes.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
What rom? Odexed or not? If odexed try to remove phone.odex first.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Dexter_prog:
Kuyadroid, yes, it has that odex file. Gonna try again later.

By the way, could you include some screenshots to see how this dialer looks like?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] tonev:
I will dunno what happened with the old ones :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
Here bro.. A bit modified..
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
which dialer is this? its not tonves..? his dosent have that background or that bar colour? :)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Miks0n:
Folow the instructions and it works, thanks for porting dialer now we want more apps :D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
It's tonves bro. I just modify some of the image...:D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Hamzai82:
o ok, can i get it aswell? if u could send the modified one 2 me? it looks nicer.. ;)
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] timpot07:
Sure. Maybe you can pm me your email. I dont have the permission to the Op to post it here.:D
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] Cadmio1205:
Not working - 2.3.5 - MiniCM7-2.0.7

Hello every one.

For me is not working. Some incompatibility?

Tx.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] droidgotbricked:
Works on android 2.2..... Froyo bread based rom(froyo pro)...........

But the dev tonev said

.........

But it works perfectly.... But some keys, icons are out of place.........
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] _Sparks:
Does this mean that some features are not working?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] El Brillantinas:
Sorry, but the default SE dialer looks ugly to me. I love the Android default dialer.

However, I'm interested on the SEMusic apk. Any progress on it?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] _Sparks:
Some1 plz answer my qurstion above

Also does the contact.apk contain the dialer as well or just the contacts?
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] ruskia:
It is working on Froyo Pro (CM6). great job! Also phone.apk is working!

It is a little buggy, when you click on the contact name it needs to be dialed but nothing happens.
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] taopie1006:
the font for the search is too big, I can see half of the words when inputting contacts
[XPERIA X8 Themes and Apps] D E V I L:
great job,thnx bro
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dendan2h:
after installing apk files, i get message say :"download must be performed though a

wifi connection

" how can i download though 3G, please help!!!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DSA:
Certain files can only be downloaded in wifi mode...just connect to a wifi spot and your done
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lotacus:
Sounds sounds like you're using miui.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] mcfly56:
I have two of these, one old and one fairly new. Also loaded tomtom on one or two for friends. I find that some find a gps signal in a minutre, even indoors, and some need to be outside for some time to get a first fix.

Strangely, my older unit picks up a signal easily, the newer one not so.

Any reason for this you can think of?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] thor-diamond:
hi, look at what radio and rilphone you have, i've found that radio 1.15.25.14 with it's rilphone works best with gps, but that might not be your case, is all trial and error i'm afraid
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markos807:
Is TomTom the best?