yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sykane:
damn! That is the only thing I DID NOT DO! LOL, I extracted the file and installed it on the phone. Even use Es file explorer and set permission. However, did not reboot.

Thanks again man. I am going back and forth with your 3.0 rom and now this one.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blcklab:
So I tried to install dsp manager from a titanium backup. It froze titanium backup but did install it.

BUT after rebooting my phone the market said 32 of my user apps needed updating even though they did not. App brain showed no updates. Weird. I let the market run its course
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
Downloaded this last night and noticed right off the bat that I can't gain root... Perhaps I downloaded the wrong build? Bass 3D V1.0

EDIT: USER ERROR. If you do not follow exact instructions provided by the dev at the beginning of the thread, you will not have enough space to install this rom properly and experience this kind of problem. Thanks for providing us with a rom never intended to be enjoyed by Inc owners!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Go into superuser and update SU to get new bin file
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
Thanks bud. I actually tried that tho and got the automatic update fail, informed of the su-2.3.1-bin-signed.zip file placed on my sd card, and instructed to flash in CWM. When I did this however, it was aborted and said that the file was bad. Booting back up I checked the file and noticed it was at 0K in size so obviously bad. I deleted the file and tried again and after it informed of the file generated, went back and checked real quick to see the same 0K file.

Kinda silly for this to be happening to me as I must've flashed 20something different roms on this phone for some time now and suddenly I no longer have root :p

I actually attempted to just search for this file on the net but can't find it anywhere
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Do you have a # in the notification bar? If so update from there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
No nothing. I open Su, click settings, tap Su binary voutdated, (checking...) "New version of su. There is a new version of the su binary available. Press 'Ok' to attempt to install it automatically." Press OK. "Automatic update failed. An error occured and su was not updated. A zip file (su-2.3.1-bin-signed.zip) has been placed on your sdcard, please reboot into recovery mode and flash it to update your su binary." OK

No notifications after that and back to the main settings menu. Note that I do not have the sdcard mounted to pc nor is it plugged in so I know it's writing to my card. However, it gives me the error so fast after attempting the instal that I know it's not downloading the file hence the 0bytes 'Bad' Zip that is created on my card... grr..

on a side note, I really enjoy your roms. In particular, I Keep your Business Gingersense 3.0v1.5 that I had been using for a good bit as a nandroid and jump to it from time to time. It was the smoothest, bug-free sense 3.0 I came across
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Alright since we are having no luck with the bin file lets replace the superuser with the one I attached. It should accept the bin that is installed.

Just replace the existing one with this one and reboot. Or just push it in with adb
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
Thanks! I actually decided to do a clean wipe, re-downloaded the rom, and now I'm in the middle of flashing it again. If I get the same problem I will install your apk and let you know how it goes :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Since you are doing that watch closely for the # in the notification because that will update the bin correctly and save you the trouble.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
No-go on the wipe, re-download, re-flash. Same error.

Installed the apk, replaced the existing version. Tried again, same error :confused:

I wonder if you uploaded that specific bin file and I flashed it if that would fix the problem ::hint hint nudge nudge:: no pressure

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Never showed by the way
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xdadevelopers-user:
I have the same problem. For me it was due to me running out of space on /system so I never got su installed in the first place.

To see if this might be the same thing you are running into you can check your free space on /system. If you have ADB you can shell into the phone and run df /system. In my case I had 0k free when it was broken. You could also check to see if you have the /system/xbin directory. I didn't. This is where su gets installed and then it's symlinked to /system/bin.

If this is what's happening for you then...

There are two ways that I worked around it.

1. Remove /system/media/bootanimation.zip from the ROM zipfile. Then install from the new, smaller ROM zipfile. To do this I just exctracted the whole zipfile to a temp folder on my pc. Then I deleted the bootanimation and re-zipped the remaining files.

or

2. While the ROM is installing use adb shell to remove the bootanimation.zip as soon as it gets installed. This requires some attention to timing. I just kept running 'rm /system/media/bootanimation' until finally it didn't complain that the file didn't exist (at which point it didn't exist again :0)

Ultimately I gave up on this ROM and installed Nils' 3.5 v1.2. Nils' 3.5 just worked oob for me and included the friendstream widget. Both this ROM and Nils' are quite similar. So, unless there's something specific that you're looking for in this ROM then maybe that would be a better option for you.

I'm addicted to ROM flashing though and I'm sure if there are any updates to this ROM I'll give them a shot.

-xdadevelopers-user
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Flash this in recovery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
I DID notice that there was 0 room in the system and whenever I did the fresh install, about 60% into the flash process where it installs the symlinks it stops for like, 4 minutes before it finally continues the install at the pace it was previously installing at... I will try your method and try and free some system room
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blcklab:
Titanium shows my System ROM near 260 with 1.96 MB free Is that the same thing? This is above my knowledge level. Phone seems to be running fine including super user.

If so, can I remove the boot animation and flash the ROM over, out would it require full wipe? Additionally is it necessary to replace the boot animation with a smaller one, or does it just go without?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
It can go without. I actually removed the bootanimation and the video files from the weather app (which is pretty large to be in the system imo). I just want root rights so I can start gutting it, increase speed, undervolt, etc

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That was it! Root access granted! So basically the rom is slightly too big takes up every bit of system room possible (which I'm sure stang did his best to gut the heck out of this thing). I just unzipped the rom to my pc, removed the boot animation and acu weather video files, re-zipped, flashed and bam- Works like a charm. Thanks you guys for your quick responses and eagerness to help me out.

Since I love the boot animation, I saved the file and sound file to a separate directory and once I've made enough room in the system folder I will add them back :D

Currently I have 32.5M free... let's see what we can do here!

NOTE: Just so everyone knows, the reason for not having root was because Superuser was unable to download the updated bin file since it needed to save to the system folder. It was unsuccessful at doing so also because there was no available room in the system folder for it to instal. After taking out a few things that won't affect the rom's performance PRE-FLASH, root access was granted after install.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blcklab:
If I remove the boot animation do I need a full wipe to re flash or vs. I clear the cache and d as

Dalvik and roll?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
I do not know if removing the bootanimation.zip file from the rom's zip on your computer then flashing over what you have will remove it from the system folder installed on your phone.. If you've got things you don't want to lose, nand and then give it a go anyway. Don't think it would hurt to try it that way right?

What is your reason for wanting to remove the boot animation? Mine was to gain root. If you already have root, you can mount your system as re-writable and remove it easily with the included File Explorer (once you set system to mount)

Location: system\customize\resource\ bootanimation.zip and android_audio.mp3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] raisins:
For some reason when I hold the power button down, it won't let me turn off my phone - I'm having to pull the battery just to restart the phone.

Anyone having this problem?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blcklab:
Thanks! I'll do that. I guess I don't need to remove it. I tHought it might be necessary to have the system space
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
It does give the system a little more breathing room and improve the lag a bit... But it's an awesome boot ani! :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xdadevelopers-user:
Why are you removing the bootanimation?

If it's because the original install didn't install everything, then you can probably just remove it from your phone, and the ROM zipfile and then flash over what you already have.

If you are removing it because you're concerned about how much free space is available on /System, don't worry. You don't really need any free space on system after everything is there.

-xdadevelopers-user

edit: BTW, I'm thrilled that I'm not the only one having this problem. I was starting to wonder what was wrong with me. It seems it's a fairly exclusive club though. Most don't seem to run into this. I wonder if there's some wiggle room in how much functional free space is available from phone to phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
Yeah I was beginning to feel alone in that I couldn't get root and having that access is like a drug... Once you have it you can't let go of it. So there isn't really much you can remove out of the system folder I've noticed haha. I was removing all kinds of stuff and had (what's most likely placebo) this feeling that everything was much faster now and hardly any lag and then noticed I had not even touched the system folder
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blcklab:
Thanks. Guess I'll leave it. Fwiw I had same proven with joelz. Now I'd know how to fix it. This is already my daily driver. If I used camcorder I'd go stock but it's not an issue for me.

I use the Economist app and it's runs better on this ROM then any other so far to play the audio version of the magazines
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Wow guys, I honestly don't know how yall are having so many issues getting this rom to flash. There's a couple things worth noting. Yes su is normally symed, but not in my roms. I always but busybox and su in both bin and xbin. This is actually how I fixed the root issue on the original base. That and rolled Superuser back from the beta version to an older version. I guess for anybody that didn't have problems flashing the rom could tell you there also isn't an issue with root in this Rom.

I'll try to play around with the system size a little bit more, its just that the way it is right now is pretty much optimal. Like I said in a previous post the entire system/app folder has been moved to data and then been symed back. This leaves ruffly about 8MB left in system. For yall that may not know, when it comes to building these heavy roms and you have to sym a lot out, you still wan't to keep as much as possible left in system. The operable system folder size should not exceed 250MB. We all know that user apps do not get installed to system. They get installed to data. This reason plus a larger data folder means more ram and more space for user apps. When it comes down to it, you should only worry about how much space is left in data. That's what is important for ram and speed.

I'll also put back in the friendstreamwidget. It was originally removed to save space but if yall want it I'll put it back in.

Again for yall that are having issues installing I would highly recommend re-looking at what your doing in recovery when it comes to wiping. I've never had an issue installing or running this rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Hey nils, this rom doesn't have the new beta su in it. It was causing issues so with actually getting root so I replaced it with an older su. I haven't had any issues with root, so I don't know what's going wrong for these guys. I would never release a build that won't boot or is incapable of achieving root.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ronin09:
I don't have a problem. Mine flashed and it's working perfectly. I did use ROM Manager thought but there were no problems.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
i have flashed this rom 3 times and have not had any issues
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Alright guys, I updated the op a little bit. I but in my disclaimer, INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS and my changelog.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zoomy942:
What's.your daily driver?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I hear ya.

I had that problem when I tried newts and had to use what I posted above. So, I probably posted exactly what you have in your ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] frostincredible:
Just wanted to pop-in and say hey. ROM is looking nice. Keep up the great work stang.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Honestly, I don't have one. Back when I was working on Hybrid Speed that was my daily for awhile. I was using Desired here recently. I think that rom was the rom that stayed on my phone the longest. But here lately I been wanting to see what pure android was like. So I flashed r2's OMGB and I gotta say this rom is stupid sik. Pure android blows any sense based rom outta the water any day. I will probably stick with it for awhile. Well, that and flashing my roms for testing but yea. Its pretty nice to touch an icon and have it instantly open up, know what I mean?

Could very well be.

Thanks Frost. Man I' so jealous of you. I want a new toy to play with regardless of the issues I've heard about the Bionic so far.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] frostincredible:
Well if you end up getting the Bionic by chance, hit me up and I'll get you up to date on it:)

And if you do have the chance, I would recommend it personally. It's really growing on me. And development is moving fast. Just started work on my own custom ROM for it today:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blcklab:
Wildstang. Kushdeck's inc deck ROM had been my daily driver for months. My first aosp ROM. fast and tons off memory.

However, this replaced it as my daily. Feels just as fast even though irrelevant quadrant speed is much less.

Keep up the good work but check out inc deck
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
This really is a great rom man. All I was doing was formatting the system, wiping caches and flashing the rom in recovery. After it installed and settled, I downloaded titanium backup from the app market and it immediately gave me the "can't get root permission message". That's when I started asking and Nils pointed out that I needed to upgrade the bin in Su and then another user pointed out that he was having the same issue and found that it was because there was not enough room in system to completely update su. Once I pulled a couple non system based files out of the zip, formatted and reflashed everything worked as you had intended it to on my inc. The su didn't even need to update as it was already there. Prior to that I had reflashed a few times with 1 of those on a re-download of your zip. Also, as I mentioned in an earlier post, you really did a job on keeping only necessary files in system! I was afraid to touch anything in there because I didn't recognize any of the usual unnecessary things that sit in there lol. Fast, fluid, I like
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Yea thats what I was trying to tell you guys. This rom has the proper root. I know this because I had to fix it! I'll mess around with the rom a little more and see if I can get a bit more room in system but its really...well its hard to explain.

Basically our system folder size should never exceed 250MB. Since this Rom is such a huge rom some things had to be moved to the data folder and then symlinked. In this rom the best way to get that system folder size down was to just move system/app folder with all the system apps in it to data. Once this was done, that left my system folder size at around 241MB. Remember where I said 250MB was max? So you see its actually got some room left in system. This is just where I get confused with you guys saying you ran out of space. You don't just run out of space unless I was just stupid and built a...300MB system folder and expected everyone to flash it without issue. It is possible to loose space in 'data'. That just comes with normal use of the phone.

If anyone wants to see what I mean about the system folder size extract it and have a look at the system folder size yourself and see.

I still say somethings going wrong for you guys in recovery to where something isn't getting properly wiped or... you guys aren't wiping everything your supposed to. Basically, I built the rom, I flashed it, it runs great on my phone with no space issues and root works flawless as it should. Others have flashed it and had no issues. I know not every phone is perfectly identical but come on guys if I have ran the rom and others as well without issue, then you should be able to also. If not then it might be time to move on and try something else.

I won't leave on a bad note though. I'll leave with this: Please make sure you guys are wiping everything that I have listed in my install instructions in my OP. Do those things and you should be successful:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
Hey you're the dev, can't argue there :) thanks again for making something available that never should have been for our phones.

Edit: I went back to the beginning to read your install instructions and realized there is a lot I'm not doing with regards to formatting that you've specified needs to be done so, something obviously isn't getting wiped and giving the rom space like it should. User error
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
how is everyone battery life on this rom???? mine seems pretty bad compared to stangs desire rom
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xdadevelopers-user:
stang,

please don't take this the wrong way. I appreciate all you have done and this ROM is very very good. I don't fault you at all for the problems I (and very few others) are having. Additionally, the problem I'm having is easily worked-around so, despite the initial trouble I had, I'm able to enjoy your work.

Having said that, this ROM will not properly install on MY phone unless I reduce the size of /system. I'm just deleting the bootanimation.zip during install to accomplish this. When I do that everything just works like you'd expect.

Here's some additional info that may help you better understand what's happening for those of us who are running out of space during install.

I just tried again - being very careful to follow your instructions in the OP EXACTLY. It still fails the same way. I captured a lot of additional information that may be meaningful to you - or maybe not but i'm letting you know anyway :).

Here's what my system filesystem looks like after wiping/formatting but before installing:

~ # df /system
df /system
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock3 253952 3072 250880 1% /system

Here's what's on it:

~ # ls -alR /system
ls -alR /system
/system:
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Sep 24 15:28 .
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 0 Sep 24 15:24 ..
drwx------ 1 root root 4096 Sep 24 15:28 lost+found

/system/lost+found:
drwx------ 1 root root 4096 Sep 24 15:28 .
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Sep 24 15:28 ..

Now, here's what's available mid-install.

~ # df -h /system
df -h /system
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock3 248.0M 248.0M 0 100% /system

Notice that there is no free space left. FYI, this time I ran df with the -h option to show the space in "human readable" format. So, if the assumption is that I should have at least 250M to start with then that's where it's breaking down for me. My /system has a measly 248M when it's completely empty. Maybe my phone has some defective memory? What does your phone show after formatting/wiping system?

Anyway attached is the recovery.log that shows exactly what's going on during install including the multiple, redundant dalvik-cache wipes (using your instructions I effectively wipe dalvik-cache 9 times. lol).

I truly DO appreciate ALL your work and hope that this issue hasn't caused you too much grief. If there is anything you'd like me to try of some information that you would find useful just let me know and I'll do what I can to get it for you.

Thanks again for the GREAT work you do.

-xdadevelopers-user
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Skruffy Jew:
So coming from Joelz I'm dl yours. Hopefully this ROM won't change names and have to bounce around xda to update. Anyways, I was wondering of there were any known problems I should I know about. I didn't see a change log other wise I'd go there and I apologize for not reading every post but I'm desperate to get a new rom (the current rom I'm running is DIEING! & fast!) and this one was and is the most talked about and liked.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mike8:
this may be a stupid question but what about the homescreen is 3D?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Do you mean buglist? Because there is a changelog.

I'll try to get a buglist together for the op.

As far as how good the rom is, you know, it just depends. Some people have been having very good luck with it and somebody aren't. Those that haven't had a problem so its a really awesome rom.

Not sure what you mean? I guess basically its the way it spins. Its they way the widgets 'pop out' as the screen is moved...

Also there is a toggle in the settings that will allow the screen to move around as the phone is tilted.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] splatoid:
Everything installed without a hitch and everything is working great. The only problem I'm having is a lot of lag in almost everything. Is this normal or do you think I should reload this ROM.

Thanks for this Stang....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris7os:
quick launch widget

First of all, EXCELLENT ROM!

I have been a long time Warm and Nils fan, but damn, this rom is now my daily driver.

But hey, what's up with the quick launch widget? Did I miss it somewhere that it doesn't quite work right? No biggie, definitely not a deal breaker, just wondering if it's been brought up is all.

Once again, this is a fabulous rom! You do good work my friend.

Much love brother,

Christos
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ottomango:
Hi amazing Rom but I wonder can you make a flashable zip of the music app of this sense version
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xdadevelopers-user:
For me, it was crazy laggy - but only at first. After a few hours things seemed to settle and it was quite smooth - though I still have occasional slight lag.

I flashed Tiny's new kernel and that seemed to help some. I don't have any objective way to tell for sure so maybe there's a placebo effect though. :)

-xdadevelopers-user
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Skruffy Jew:
Hi my names Skruffy and I'm a ****ing retard. I deleted to many system apps. ****!