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[Windows Phone 7 General] Snake.:
for the " SCREEN OFF > CAMERA BUTTON ON ACTION SOMETIMES ALLOWS OLDER PICTURES TO BE VIEWED", don´t you have password set? Because if you do, it lets you only shoot images, not view them until you unlock the device
[Windows Phone 7 General] yipcanjo:
Again... I understand what it's SUPPOSED to do, but it's not working that way for me. From the screen off, if I press the Camera button to wake the phone and take a photo, it should *only* show the photos I'm currently taking -- and nothing before that. Problem is, sometimes it's doing that, other times it's not. I even tested it while writing this post, and got two different results. Wha??

I have to agree with this. Although I like a *lot* of what the Music Hub offers, I feel it's mostly a step backward from the Zune HD.

I don't have a password set. Never have. In fact, this "security feature" should really only kick in if you *do* have a password set -- so that folks can't open your phone via the Camera button and view a bunch of your photos. If you don't have a password, though -- such as in my case -- it's a pretty silly security element, if you ask me.

Again, it is inconsistent.

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Thanks. I'll check that out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fleon888:
Music goes back to reviews:

I was unable to replicate this on my Focus. Not sure what's up for you on that one.

Lock Screen Delays:

Yeah, I have this problem as well- not just for music controls, but for everything on the lock screen. Takes a second to be visible. I heard there was going to be a related firmware patch to fix this.

Camera Button, See pictures:

It's supposed to launch the camera app, so you should have access to the other pictures in the hub if you don't have a password set? I guess? And no access if the PIN is set? Not sure what the intention is here. I've tried a few times and I have also seen inconsistency in how this actually works out. Sometimes I can see other pictures, sometimes not. (I also do not have a PIN set.)

Volume:

Never had this issue.

Wireless Control

Neat idea, wonder how it would work out in practice. In the meantime, try out Connectivity Shortcuts in the marketplace. I'm using that now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
I would be curious to know if the inconsistent camera behavior persists when you do have the PIN set. And, if it behaves correctly (and consistently) with the PIN set, what happens if you then remove it? Does it revert to the inconsistent behavior, or does it then begin to behave as it should?

As for the network connectivity idea, it is what many of us have been requesting for months. Tapping on the status bar when it is visible (or more likely tap-and-hold, to prevent interfering with apps) could pop up a menu that shows the current state of each of the network settings, with a button on the right to toggle that setting on or off. The shortcuts app is a nice workaround, but having the feature built into the OS would be much better. Oh, and the menu could include the battery percentage as well, and a button to turn battery saver mode on or off.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I have removed all pics from my favorite section... So I guess when I get mango it will show all pics and not just blank...

And the history section in music and apps only play that particLar song in my nodo too... Its annoying .. Sometimes it shows same album cover for two tracks played from same album as a history... They should have made it to play feomthat album beginning ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] yipcanjo:
Interesting test. Again, in my mind it should 1) allow you access to your older pictures *if* no PIN is set, or 2) not allow access to your older pictures if a PIN is set.

My phone had been in my pocket for awhile, so I grabbed hit (screen is off), held the camera button, and allowed the camera to spring to life. I was, in fact, able to scroll back and see older Camera Roll photos. I then added a PIN, turned off the phone, held the Camera button, got the camera interface, and there was a "Lock" symbol in the lower-left corner, which I've only seen a few times. When I clicked on the "Lock" symbol, I was prompted for my PIN. After entering it, I could see my older photos.

Great. This is what I would expect from the phone, but this isn't what I'm seeing everytime. Now that I've toggled the PIN on and off again, we'll see if it sticks to one type of behavior. Still, it seems like a bug.

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I don't necessarily mind if it plays that single song by default. I can see how some people would download an album, play a single song (their favorite, or whatever), and then expect that the History would like to that single song. Perhaps they want to keep playing it and have easy access to it? I don't know.

Regardless, it shouldn't look as if that's the only song in that album, which is what seems to be going on. Link to the song -- sure -- but if I then click the track list (below the album art), show me the rest of the songs in that album too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] StevieBallz:
As for only displaying favorite pictures in the Pictures Hub Background:

I often saw pictures there that weren't really that great and so I personally like the idea of only displaying ones favorites. This makes even more sense given that people very often complained of pictures being shown on their Start Screen they DID NOT WANT ANYONE to see (I guess they were talking of more private pictures).

As for Connectivity Shortcuts, Network Dashboard and the other Shortcut Apps that are emerging: if they are installed on the majority of phones I guess that will convince Microsoft that it really has to add this functionality at the System Level. I personally would like to have that menu bound to a long press of the power button (along with the swipe to turn off feature).
[Windows Phone 7 General] yipcanjo:
Good point. I guess it's only obnoxious when you have just a few Favorites, as I do, and get tired of seeing those same ones over and over.

Perhaps this could be a feature to Enable or Disable?
[Windows Phone 7 General] mfmanca:
On my LG Optimus 7 the compass has stopped working since the update to Mango pre-release.

I was hoping to get a fix from LG with the final release but it doesn't seem the case...

Ok, I can survive without the compass but it really sucks!
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
So out of general curiosity who all is thinking to switch to the samsung galaxy s2 when it gets released (9-18-11, according to Rumor anyway)
[LG Thrill 4G] kingfisher1111:
Why do I switch to S2? It doesn't have 3D right?
[LG Thrill 4G] 00mred00:
or LTE....

keeping either of the phones is silly...within months of the SGS2 the Celox will be out...

If I can get something going custom on the LG I might actually keep it...we have another upgrade to use soon anyway and I plan on using that on the Celox
[LG Thrill 4G] Trekfan422991:
I'm good with my device... :)
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
Well my deadline is the end of Sept. to get one or the other. Only reason I was debating SGS2 would be the Super Amoled Plus, the Extra 512mb Ram and 200mhz cpu bump and it's being developed, granted the att version is slightly different because the screen size will be 4.3 inches from what I hear. Also the Sprint Version is already up for Pre-Order on amazon, ran across it accidentally. So my guess is the AT&T version is right around the corner than. Oh yea and battery life, although that is yet to be seen so I can't judge too much there and also Gingerbread instead of Froyo.
[LG Thrill 4G] magicriggs:
I'm keeping my thrill over galaxy s2 and here's why. Froyo vs gingerbread I can care less but for other people it matters with that said. All the reviews and comparison test you see on the net is a galaxy s2 on gingerbread vs a lg thrill/optimus 3D on froyo. The S2 in results never runs away with it, in some parts the LG does. So do the math if I have a phone running an outdated software but is keeping up with the latest and greatest software what will happen when I get the latest software? Besides the dual channel support is very important. I posted this video somewhere else in the forum but I'll post it here again. Watch the video it just makes sense > >

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnHykOcWKAg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[LG Thrill 4G] antiochasylum:
No. But how often will you use 3D?

The thrill doesnt have LTE either, the Thrill has a 14.4meg HSDPA radio, where as the S2 has a 21meg HSDPA radio(the euro version atleast, unsure of the ATT version). Which where I live, matters. My S2 is faster then my thrill on speed tests when sitting side by side.

Both phones have pro's and con's. Nothing is perfect. As being an owner of BOTH devices I can say both are great. Browsing, surfing, gaming, all are about equal. Benchmarking, the S2 excells.

The only draw back is dev support, which the S2 excells 10 fold over the thrill, yes its just released, and it will take time.

Oh and also the Thrill is ATT branded. That alone just boils my blood. My S2 is unbranded.

If I had to pick again, I'd still pick the S2, simply because of design, weight, and the display. That alone is a HUGE selling point.

So everyone stop measurebating and be happy with your device.
[LG Thrill 4G] magicriggs:
Won't the S2 for att be branded as well?
[LG Thrill 4G] antiochasylum:
Yes, unless you fork out 600$ and buy the legit S2 from amazon, the one with the home button, not the US version.
[LG Thrill 4G] Spartoi:
And those would be? Also, I doubt Gingerbread will bring much performance boost over Froyo, though I do hope LG updates the drivers for better performance (which Samsung has down with recent updates).
[LG Thrill 4G] M1nur:
I agree, main reason to have SGII is the support it will get from here. Other than that the differences are not that different.

Thrill still holds its ground very well compared to its updated competitor.

This phone is fast and once updated with a custom rom to take more advantage of this phones hardware, I dont see the debate to really continue.

Yes it has 512mb more of RAM and 200Mhz of CPU speed, but the Thrill is using dual channel which has been proven to already be faster than the SGII.

So people can debate all they want and it wont matter. Whatever people own will be the device they defend to the teeth.

Main things I can say most people(non-techies) will use as a deciding factor would be SGII for the 2MP front facing camera, thin, sleek and extremely hyped, so people will want it to simply say they have it.

disclaimer: this is all IMO if you rage and panic, look in the mirror and realize this is the interwebs.....then slap yourself.
[LG Thrill 4G] CEaton:
If I can't get the damn GPS on this thing fixed before the SGII is released, I will be trading.
[LG Thrill 4G] JonGarrett:
I was hoping either of those phones would replace my iPhone 4. I have the LG Thrill but I hate the battery life on it and there's no way it could be my primary phone with a battery that poor.
[LG Thrill 4G] M1nur:
I say get either or and you will be happy. With updates and ROMs coming in the future it usually drastically changes the battery life.

I also ordered a larger battery for mine and should recieve this week :p
[LG Thrill 4G] 00mred00:
There isnt a gps issue on the thrill that I am aware of....do you have a defective unit?

i think the point of my previous post was missed. if i am going to keep one of the 2 devices....the thrill vs sgs2... It will be the thrill @ $50.. (multiple lines so contract price is not issue here) The Celox should be out in q4 with faster processor and LTE....along with the rumored HTC lte phone.

Att and samsung pushed the release too far. within 45 days of its release (which still has not been confirmed) better phones will be out from HTC And possibly Samsung
[LG Thrill 4G] baudilus:
I enjoy all of the GS2 touting in this Thrill forum. :)

Personally, the performance of the GS2 is nominally better than the Thrill. It's your choice if the extra $100 (or more) is worth it.
[LG Thrill 4G] magicriggs:
GS2 is running gingerbread...thrill ruining froyo. Wait til the update comes then well see who is nominally.
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
Custom Rom will really show who is top. Considering I have seen what bench marks for an SGS2 is when OC to 1.5ghz in one of those apps and really this one isn't too far behind from what I recall. Either way I might end up with both and probably wind up giving the thrill to my wife.
[LG Thrill 4G] antiochasylum:
Gingerbread will not help it THAT much. It will all depend on how LG optimizes the drivers. On my nexus one, 2.3 actually hurt the performance.

I have both an couldnt be happier. Both phones are equally impressive. The S2 wins in my book because of the design, weight and pure sleekness. But for 50$ from radioshack for the thrill, you CANT go wrong.

And as for rom's head on over to the s2 forum and see everything :). Besides I dont think anyone notable form the S2 will migrate to the Thrill. Possibly DesignGears, only because he is in the US.
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
DG is already here :). He is the one who figured out how to.flash CWM for us.
[LG Thrill 4G] baudilus:
Nominal - meaning "insignificant."

People put too much stock in benchmarks and not enough in real world experience. The SGS2 has better specs and slightly better performance (in some aspects), but in reality their performance is so close that it's a wash in terms of every day use.
[LG Thrill 4G] BigCiX:
nailed it on the coffin....people do put way to much on benchmarks. How much slower can 1ghz to 1.2ghz be when it comes time to opening an app. Im almost sure any game the SG2 can handle the Thrill can too. If this phone had the same specs same OS but was a Sammy product, reviews would absolutly flip the sript and say this device is flawless. The fact that it's an LG (who i think is making good product lately) makes people think differently. Watch when sammy releases their Galaxy S 3D how alot of people comments will change from gimmick to wow. i can't image what people would say if the i5 was actually iphone 5 3D

http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/2011/09/droid-bionic-review-benchmark-tests-samsung-galaxy-ii-beats-bionic-bionic-bests-nexus-s-moto-atrix-htc-evo-3d.html
[LG Thrill 4G] kiltedthrower:
It looks like the sgs2 isn't going to be here tomorrow after all
[LG Thrill 4G] hyelton:
Where do u get that from? its the 18th its supposed to come out
[LG Thrill 4G] 00mred00:
It was never coming out on the 18th. att NEVER gave a release date. it will be oit the first weekend of Oct. just like I have always said...and ot supposedly have transformers 3 on it.

And every informed buyer that gets it is silly....at least 2 better phones are coming in october
[LG Thrill 4G] kiltedthrower:
That's the rumored release date. I called 4 stores here in Oklahoma City and a couple more outside of Oklahoma City. None of the stores had received any SGSII shipments and none of the employees even had a release date. A couple of them had heard that it was supposed to be on the 18th but none of that came from corporate. And considering none had received any shipments...

I happened to be on the phone with AT&T about some other things and asked them and they said they had no idea on a release date. No release date had come down the 'pipeline' yet.
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
The Sept 18 att release date was just a rumor based on the Sprint release. Its definitely not coming out til Oct. But anyways I can't imagine it being much of, if any, upgrade over the Thrill except for the S AMOLED+ display. People can call the 3D a gimmick all they want, but I think its actually a very cool feature on an already amazing phone. By the time I get another upgrade att probably still wont have their lte network fully rolled out and lets face it, how much better is a phone going to get other than a feature like lte? Sure the thrill is lacking BT 3.0 but that's not a big deal for me.

Sent
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
Double post
[LG Thrill 4G] baudilus:
That just tells me I made a good move. How many people are gonna hit the AT&T store tomorrow looking for the GS2 and walking out with a Thrill?
[LG Thrill 4G] kiltedthrower:
I bet very few. I'm assuming the phones are flooded though today with people calling to see if it'll be available and what the cost is going to be.
[LG Thrill 4G] ATTShawn:
They are on our shipment list for my store getting received on Tuesday. I don't work at a corporate AT&T so we don't get shipments in on the exact release date. But we have 25 coming to our store on Tuesday. so Sept 18th is the OFFICIAL release date.
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
Very good to know, thanks for the update. I kept thinking this phone is a figment of our imaginations and never going to actually release lol.
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
Well if you're right on that one that's really good news. Ill definitely be down to the att store to play around with one.
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
Yea its 4:20 am and nothing showing the sgs2 online. they did lower tye price of the infuse by $100 though so that is slightly promising so maybe it gets released in the stores before online?
[LG Thrill 4G] timmytim:
What does everyone think about the Atrix? It has a dual core cpu, 1GB RAM, and is being developed in it's forums. THe only drawback is the locked bootloader so no custom kernels, but isn't that phone wicked fast? Also, the price drops to like $49 for that one today as well.
[LG Thrill 4G] MisterEdF:
The Infuse is actually showing as FREE for me. A definite "coming soon" sign for the SGSII but I don't think it will be released today as it isn't showing up at 8:30am EDST online but it is possible it could be a "soft launch" and it's also possible that the the poster who says his (non-corp) store is getting them Tuesday might never get the shipment.
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
Actually I have looked at a few of the roks over there and quite a dew of them have OC kerneks built into the roks to reach 1.3 ghz so I ak guessing they figured out a way to unlock the bootloader on that device.
[LG Thrill 4G] hyelton:
So If I wanted to buy this full price without contract would it only be 449? cause most phones on att on the website sAY No Commitment Pricing is 449 for most of there top phones right now. What does that mean? is that what I would Pay ?
[LG Thrill 4G] ATTShawn:
It's strange that it's not on the site. We got our memo to discount the Infuse to $99. I thought for sure it would be available on the site. I'll let you guys know if our shipment of GSII's really come in on Tuesday.. Cause I just looked at the list again and the shipment list still has them on it.
[LG Thrill 4G] MisterEdF:
Since I was a kid, many many years ago, I've always been taught to NEVER say or sound like I am 100% sure of something unless I see it with my own eyes because there is always the possibility it wasn't true and could make one look like an arse when it didn't happen. Prefacing a comment with "It should be" or "it sure seems like" usually gives one an out. ;)

It's not in the corp store I called here either and they still claim they have no idea when. Of course they could be blind and stupid or under NDA.

It's very possible it originally was scheduled for your listed shipment date but things might have changed. Until you see "SHIPPED" or you see the boxes on the dock you never know.
[LG Thrill 4G] kiltedthrower:
I called the corporate stores here in Oklahoma City and the managers had no idea when they were coming in nor did they have any idea of pricing. They assume they'll sell for $199.
[LG Thrill 4G] hyelton:
Surely they are lieing. Cause I've worked with uscellular for a few years. And thatbstore the boss owns and not uscellular. But we know atleast 2 months what the release date and price is. So att is a big lie
[LG Thrill 4G] timmytim:
The AT&T reps are under a NDA i believe and if so, they will NEVER give ou any info that AT&T doesn't want the masses to know about.
[LG Thrill 4G] ATTShawn:
First of all, it has been shipped yesterday. So unless we're receiving a box with nothing in it. Then they are coming. I wouldn't post something if I didn't see it. Trust me, I want this phone so bad that I have been keeping tabs on it since it got announced. It MAY be a shipping mistake, but it SAYS been shipped as of yesterday..

So don't assume I'm wrong. Maybe it is getting released this week. Cause they are not in our system to sell yet.

And I am not an AT&T Corporate Rep. I work for an independent dealer.
[LG Thrill 4G] hyelton:
Thanks for the info. Hopefully. But I need to sell this thrill first
[LG Thrill 4G] ahenderson223:
Att only launch phones on the first and third Sundays of the month that means that if not today then first. Weekend of Oct if not the third weekend by best guess is the third weekend if the iPhone 5 is coming the first week of oct
[LG Thrill 4G] kiltedthrower:
attshawn,

What are you selling them for on a contract upgrade
[LG Thrill 4G] malickie:
AT&T can Launch phones whenever they feel like it actually. Just depends on corporate and if they feel like it. Anyway yea AT&T Reps. can't tell people a release date because if they did and something it bad with the actual release date than people would have a right to ***** and complain and find a way out of their contract if they have one. Among other frivolous lawsuits that would be bound to follow if a Solid date was released. It's called plausible deniability which the government has been using forever.
[LG Thrill 4G] ahenderson223:
They don't say anything because they don't tell us to just a couple of days b4 the release. And people are all ways gonna ***** just read thru the forums and how can some one get out of a contract just because a Phone was not released lmao
[LG Thrill 4G] ATTShawn:
We never release phones for more than $199 for a new contract/upgrade (excluding iPhone 32GB).. So I can't imagine it being more than that.
[LG Thrill 4G] hyelton:
just got back home went to att store hour drive there. anyway returned my thrill:)) and they undone my contract so when a new phone comes out I can get it:) either iphone 5 or galaxy S ii
[LG Thrill 4G] coolren:
i dumped this phone today too. thinking about defecting to another carrier
[LG Thrill 4G] kurrptsenate:
I really wanted to move to Verizon, but they cancelled their unlimited data in July. I was very disappointed as I have a VERY good 4G verizon tower near my house that pulls 12megs down.

I felt I couldn't get a better phone in my current situation for the price ($30) than the LG Thrill
[LG Thrill 4G] ngocdao:
My system tells me a new phone is being announced this thursday:)
[LG Thrill 4G] BigCiX:
AT&T is so far up apples u know what, I bet they wait til after the i5 is released. That way.customers who wanted the gs2 give up and take the i5.
[LG Thrill 4G] Aquarianperry:
So what happened to the guy who was supposedly getting GSII's in his store today???

Went to Best Buy tonight thinking I was done waiting for the GSII and was going to get a Thrill 4G to tide me over till I could buy the Nexus in November or so and while I had the fresh out the box Thrill 4G in my hand and about to pull the SIM out of my Captivate as the guy was checking my upgrade status on the computer the internet at Best Buy went out!!! They couldn't get access to check my upgrade or process my order to sell me the phone!!!

Guess that's a higher power telling me to wait for the GSII LOL.
[LG Thrill 4G] CallMeAria:
Rofl...that could be a sign. But maybe it was a sign to just go to target or radio shack...$80 on upgrade as opposed to $100 from bestbuy ;)
[LG Thrill 4G] ngocdao:
Actually, quite the contrary. Apple and AT&T's relationship isnt as tight anymore. You can see this just by the number of Android phones being released by AT&T this year. Verizon is actually the one up Apple's ass.
[LG Thrill 4G] Aquarianperry:
That's one of the things that had enticed me, Best Buy was going to price match Radio Shack's $80 deal and I had reward zone point to blow LOL.
[LG Thrill 4G] ahenderson223:
Someone told me the thrill is 20 bucks at Walmart don't know how true but worth checking out
[LG Thrill 4G] ATTShawn:
So we didn't get a shipment. Weird.. This is a little ridiculous, i must say.