yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] Anonamoose:
I did a search and skimmed the posts so forgive me if this has been posted but every time I go into Cyanogen Mod Settings under the performance tab I get random reboots. I re-downloaded the Rom and tried again and it happens every time. Thanks for this Toast and the whole team... Shift thanks for keeping an eye on questions. Once this reaches nightly status it's gonna be a beast! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
Ugh. Still without cell service. Something screwed my account up after removing cm7.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
Flash sense, try factory reset, ##DATA# or even call sprint to refresh it, try flashing the newest radio etc etc
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
I went back to. My stock rom. I reset data, went through reactivation. Spoke with sprint, redid all the same steps until I got escalated. Still waiting for service.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
Have u tried.flashing a different radio?
[HTC EVO 3D] vulcZ:
FINALLLYYYYY!

Game over :)
[HTC EVO 3D] e_town:
Call sprint customer service and tell them you have an error 16 and cannot make any calls. Happened to me after a rom a while back (can't remember which one, gone through at least 10 since then).

BTW, this rom is KILLER! I've never had the chance to work with Cyanogen and i dont think i'll ever look back! This is more than likely my new daily driver. I really don't use bluetooth so no issues for me!
[HTC EVO 3D] vboyz103:
Yeah if you get the "Error 16" message, then you need to call sprint customer service saying you get that error. They'll ask you to listen through the entire message for a agent online but it won't say that (at least in my case). Then you need to tell them there's no agent after the end of message. They'll end up "refreshing" your settings and it should be good to go after reboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
I have called sprint. They said I would have service returned in a day or two. Hopefully sooner. The error message doesn't like any error code or tell me to call sprint. Just states I could not complete the call and should try again later. Doesn't matter who I call.

How would a radio update work? I think I have 8088 (if that sounds right).
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
I was just tryna throw some ideas out there that I'd try is all.
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
So I installed last night and then accidentally deleted something about contacts with titanium. I then reflashed the rom and now about half of my contacts are gone. Any ideas?

Sent from my cyanogenized shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
OMG. CM7 for us, yummmmy!!
[HTC EVO 3D] MichaelMcEntire:
Thanks!

Sent from my E3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] HSadler93:
Thank you Toast!!!!!

Downloading now
[HTC EVO 3D] Tiffany84:
Its's here, it's here, it's here!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] welrope:
Awesome job toast!
[HTC EVO 3D] RVDigital:
Welcome back Toast! Thank you for this, looking forward to your work.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
The one time I get first post it gets deleted by a mod. All I did was say thanks... Not much different than what was posted by shift_...

Ah well, anyhoo this is a time for celebration. Thanks Toastcfh!
[HTC EVO 3D] iCaptivate:
Might I ask where I can acquire the Google Apps?
[HTC EVO 3D] FaithCry:
Any love for us gsm-ers? :(
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
Do we flash gapps? Where's the link? Thanks very much toast!!
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Check gooinsideme for the gapps. That should be it.
[HTC EVO 3D] iCaptivate:
Can you link me? I have no idea where to find that.
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
AWESOME. Can't wait for the bluetooth to work smoothly also!
[HTC EVO 3D] lexusmike:
Goo-inside.me then go to gapps and find the latest gb gapps

http://db.tt/ojaj1MR

here it is on my dropbox

Sent from my Premium XDA app
[HTC EVO 3D] LukeLeBron:
Thanks Toast!
[HTC EVO 3D] hupo224:
Here you go!

http://tinyurl.com/66fe43r
[HTC EVO 3D] MJScore:
Downloading done now installing. What gapps do we use? I have the latest 20110729 or do I use 20110613?
[HTC EVO 3D] scyy:
Flashing momentarily, thanks for the rom toast.
[HTC EVO 3D] zaner123:
OMG Yes. I've been having issues all week with my current ROM... But I've been holding out as long as possible. Now that everything is so screwed up it's unbearable, CM7 is here!
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Welcome toast! Always good to see one of the great ones here!
[HTC EVO 3D] a1aone:
Did you try flashing a new kernel?
[HTC EVO 3D] LukeLeBron:
Go to contacts, hit display options, and then hit show all.
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
Is there another kernel released from toastcfh? Or flashing one of the other custom kernels being developed like Silverneedle?
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
You don't want to flash that or any other sense based kernel. Not going to end up well :p

Sent from my CM powered 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
Figured as much :)
[HTC EVO 3D] a1aone:
I meant after you flashed a new rom!
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
Grrr i can't find that...don't see any options related to display

Sent from my cyanogenized shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Trying to get this bootanim to work. Doesnt seem to be cooperating. Its originally for 480x800. I changed the desc.txt to fit with our resoulution. Pissing me off. If anyone wants to try and upload a working copy of it that would be great, its a badass anim. CM7 Neoglass

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1021516&page=4

Here is the preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRgmoHoyAU&feature=player_embedded
[HTC EVO 3D] blu3poptart:
Press menu while in the contacts app and then select the top right option which is display options.
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
I restored 3 nand backups (senseless, clearnrom, and stock rom). Installed clean rom from zipfile. Even reinstall CM7 :D.

Error doesn't change. Its something on there end unfortunately ...
[HTC EVO 3D] clark44:
I'm not sure how this is possible but i love it...
[HTC EVO 3D] VirusZer0:
If talk'n about the battery, it is very inaccurate. Mine said 94% and then died a few mins later lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] spx_trader:
it will stay in the 90% range until your phone shuts off from a dead battery. At least that's what mine did, last I looked it was at 95% and over 11hrs and then the battery died and I put in my spare
[HTC EVO 3D] ajs421:
it's possible thanks to the fact the battery stats aren't being interpreted correctly. Toast says it in the very first post ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] spx_trader:
that had to the the quickest time a question was answered right three times in a row on xda.
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
LMAO!! mine did the same thing just a couple minutes ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] lilflip21:
Most likely you are compressing the desc.txt when you added it back to the bootanimation.zip make sure you add it in "store" or no compression mode so it doesn't compress it any as you don't want any of your files in the bootanimation.zip compressed they are just stored in a .zip and then it should work fine for you..
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Can anyone make a mod to correctly display battery percent and voltage?

I'm willing to pay for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] xBryan:
cool story. Must be hard to wait for a update.
[HTC EVO 3D] j91hernandez:
LOL

Can someone make a mod for everything to work correctly!? I would definitely pay for that!
[HTC EVO 3D] j91hernandez:
Must he hard finding friends...
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Nice, thanks bro. I felt like snapping my phone in half at first. I knew it was something I overlooked.
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
Why is this 2.3? And not 2.4? -.-
[HTC EVO 3D] eltrutgnik:
theres no such thing as 2.4.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Well, I can't use the ROM right now because if the battery shuts off while I'm working, I won't be able to make or receive important calls. I am not familiar with how long Cyanogenmod updates but if it's over a week, I would pay for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Its what comes after the 3, 2.3.5

from my 333dddeeevvvooo
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
C'mon man. I'm standing up for people like you in another thread and then you go and ruin it. Just sit back and wait and let them do their thing. If you can't use it now then you'll have to wait. Before you go throwing money for something like that, why don't you throw money to toast or the team who gave you the basis for what you're complaint about!?!? Let them do their thing.

Sent from my CM powered 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
I meant 2.3.4 -.-
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
I can't get the rom to work. I get stuck in the HTC screen. Any help?
[HTC EVO 3D] pbedard:
Did u wipe everything? ? No sense apps?
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Here's some help:

Read the OP.

It clearly states that you must be NAND unlocked.

*As you have previously stated, you used the HTC unlock method, so (and you know this) are most definitely NOT in possession of a NAND-unlocked phone.

Why are you wasting everyone's time?
[HTC EVO 3D] eltrutgnik:
Cm7 comes with 2.3.5.

Wipe system, cache and dalvik.
[HTC EVO 3D] rstuckmaier:
It's 2.3.5

You need to give us more info than that. Your user data is confusing but if I ignore the Virginia part it looks like you're in Spain. Do you have a CDMA or GSM Evo3d? This won't work for GSM.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Damn, j...... You're getting really good at this. ;-)
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
It won't make a difference... Ask him what hboot he has...
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
I smell trolls lurking
[HTC EVO 3D] edgie168:
Then I guess you'll just have to flash a different ROM until it's stable, now don't you?

After all, in the very first post it's clearly stated that this is an "Alpha" build and WILL be full of bugs.. and that you're on your own should you choose to flash it.
[HTC EVO 3D] tomp517:
Any one knows when the nightlys are goin to began?
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
No
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
I wipe everything I'm on decks rom. Dalkvic cache reset the.phone and wipe everything. It stays like that :(
[HTC EVO 3D] error4o4:
All I have to say is thanks to Toast & whoever else is part of this amazing development. I couldn't live without Cyanogen on my 4g, and right now I'm in a struggle to choose on my Evo3d..

ViperRom with sense is amazing, and now Cyanogen without sense *I know* will be equally amazing.

What to do ! :)

Keep up the great work and I hope the individuals who obviously don't read the thread or obviously shouldn't be rooting w/out a helping hand don't discourage your development!

- Separate note: I havn't seen anyone respond to the question about GPS, how is this Alpha with GPS location locking quality? Any issues like the EVO4G had with the ##gpsclrx# fixes needed?
[HTC EVO 3D] myndwire:
Kudos to everyone that made this happen. It was an exciting adventure getting this out to the community. Looking forward to bringing the world a fully functional build for shooter in the near future.
[HTC EVO 3D] VirusZer0:
Anyone have issues with WiFi?

-It sees my network, I key in the correct key, it says authenticating, then goes to disabled. If I press it, it gives me the connect or forget option, I click connect, same thing, auth, then disabled.

Any ideas?
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
I live in Virginia I keep forgetting to change that flag -.-. Ok so even though I'm fully rooted it means I'm not S-OFF. Other roms say the same thing and they work. So I don't know what's going on.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I did donate money to them... Please don't make assumptions like that anymore.
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
Did I specifically asked you for help? No. Stfu
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Just s fast as sense. I can get a lock inside in 8secs
[HTC EVO 3D] irock1985:
Has anyone tried flashing the kernal from HyperLight?
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
You need to follow the install instructions here: CLICK_ME

@ toast - pretty please add this to your OP, so I can stop posting it :)

CM7 WORKS ON HTC UNLOCKED DEVICES
[HTC EVO 3D] edgie168:
"INSTRUCTIONS:

- First time flashing CM 7 to your Evo 3D (or coming from another ROM)?

1. Unlock/root your device and install twrp or Clockwork Recovery(You MUST be NAND unlocked!)"
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
When you decided to ask the thread for help after blatantly ignoring the directions in the OP, blatantly ignoring the the words "MUST BE NAND UNLOCKED", and continuing to say "can't run this rom on mahphooone! " =

asking for my "help".
[HTC EVO 3D] edgie168:
Maybe it's just rhcp and Flemmard. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Gilbot:
Yes. You won't get past the HTC splash.
[HTC EVO 3D] irock1985:
Oh ok figured since it was Aosp
[HTC EVO 3D] jordan23945bulls:
Thanks, I'm rooted already so I just need to do the 2nd part. I don't think I have some of the files -.-. I want to just be s-off completely :(
[HTC EVO 3D] e_town:
ROM is great so far. Only two things that have caught my attention while using it today. I'm on WIFI probably 85% of my day with the phone (work and then home) so i don't use much 3G data....that lead to number one below

1. When im on 3G without WIFI available, I cannot sync to my exchange server. I manage the server, small company and im in charge of IT. I have never seen this before. Via WIFI it works GREAT, but on 3G its flaky. I had to reboot when i went out to lunch today to get it to sync. I could access my Webmail frontend (OWA) via the browser, but not through the email app....

2. Also regarding email, although this isn't really a "bug", I have not found a way to search my email. Is that somehow linked to google voice search??? I did NOT install that with Gapps FWIW...

3. Typing on this ROM seems very tough / inaccurate. I use swift-keyboard x and i can usually BANG out an email faster than most people i know type on a full sized keyboard. It seems like the edges of the screen don't always pick up an input. Is there a way to calibrate???

Great work toast!
[HTC EVO 3D] Shantox73:
I used the gps today on a 390 mile round trip .... Excellent!

GPS lock was almost instant and very accurate. I was smiling :)
[HTC EVO 3D] phazen18:
I had problems with GPS, of the minor kind. It'll work from a fresh boot, but if you go into Navigation a couple times (not sure how many, might be just once, or it could take a couple times), then exit, eventually it'll stop working.

A quick reboot fixes it though. Incidentally, rebooting is insanely quick (smokes my old CM7 evo4g)!
[HTC EVO 3D] spx_trader:
Please actually read the links they post. You can't get s off it you did the HTC unlock
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
1 - I know

2 - Find them

3 - You can't
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
You missed the whole point of my post. My point was to not complain about what we don't have. Be happy and grateful for what we do and don't bring someone else in toast's thread to try and develop for his rom. Yes, I know it's open source, but respect is what is needed.

Sent from my CM powered 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] yurgon:
Awesome work toastcfh. Thanks a ton for your work.

So far everything is working great minus the already stated items in the OP.

I have noticed one other thing though now. After I did a Titanium backup restore my home button quit working. I'm pretty sure it didn't manifest itself until the restore.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? I'll wipe and reflash later to see if I can reproduce it before I restore with TB. Can't wait for bluetooth to become functional. It's the only thing holding me back from making this my daily driver.
[HTC EVO 3D] aalopez10:
A Quick reboot, fixes that
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
I see. I would do the same too. Thanks for being here to help bro. There are a lot of noobs in here having problems(yes I just read the whole thread) so don't get to frustrated.

I actually had this happen to me once. I had flashed, if I remember right, one of the soundless AOSP builds and then restored back to Sense, because I really needed to make calls and use my phones alarm clock. When I went back to Sense I tried to make a call and I would get an error saying "I'm sorry. We cannot complete your call at this time. Please try again later." This is not the error 16 thing. This is something completely different and nothing fixed it until I flashed xHausx stock rooted Rom and that fixed it. Hope this helps you.
[HTC EVO 3D] diaztradeinc:
hahaha cm7 is beast, our phones will never need a charge again haha!
[HTC EVO 3D] -shift-:
everyone's been there. in fact, we're all noobs at one thing or another... :)

it's the attitude when dealing with someone looking for help/info that makes the difference.
[HTC EVO 3D] badbizinc:
You flashed toast?
[HTC EVO 3D] sheep_duck:
PLEASE excuse my ignorance, but i cannot for the life of me searching google and this forum, find a difference between rooting the old team win way and being nand unlocked. i did the hboot 1.40 root....
[HTC EVO 3D] graffixnyc:
And we all know you're the noobist of the noobs ;-)
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
If you ran revolutionary on hboot 1.4 and never took the OTA you're fine. You have s_off
[HTC EVO 3D] -shift-:
oh you little rascal, you...

but, yes, i am :3
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
When in doubt, #blameshift :) :) :)

On a serious note, is anyone else having issues with the gingerbread keyboard from the market not being responsive at times? Ether that or my fingers are too fat...
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Yep....often times ill b typically.g and hit a letter but nothing happens....kinda Like u didn't hit the letter at all....
[HTC EVO 3D] bo5ibbs:
I've noticed unresponsiveness from several different keyboards. I also noticed this while running hyperlite. If you're a fan of swype then now is the time to use it.

Sent from my evo 3d running cm7
[HTC EVO 3D] res1bxh3:
+1 I often have difficulty hitting delete.
[HTC EVO 3D] sheep_duck:
thanks. the way it was being discussed was leading me to believe nand unlocked and s-off were two different things.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
Shift! How'd I know that I'd see you in here?!
[HTC EVO 3D] Shantox73:
Hmmm ... I didnt get anything like that. I went into nav 3 times and changed my destination halfway through my return trip to find a nice barbecue house ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Didn't you know?

@Shift is a long-time XDA honk and regularly posts in Q&A under a multitude of IP addresses and usernames.....

How's that "Nickelback" theme coming along, Shift?

(jk, lol)

Sent from my 3::::::::::::Ð
[HTC EVO 3D] yurgon:
I tried that with no luck. Gotta love reboots they really do fix so many issues with such ease so it was definitely the first thing I tried.
[HTC EVO 3D] marc.ientilucci:
Here's a gingerkeyboard that seems to.b working okay for me.

http://www.mediafire.com/?23bcjxjyl8a129u
[HTC EVO 3D] -shift-:
oh, dude.. it's cm! how can i not partake?? ;)

oh lawd..... >_<
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Your sig says 3D in Penis Format.

Coffee and Hip-Hop!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Saleenfiend:
Thank You for this!

Supra RCMix Shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] vboyz103:
I voted this thread for the best thread EVER....lmao It does look like one now that you said it.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Wow, I had no idea... It sure is nice, though, huh?

Sent from my 3::::::::::::Ð
[HTC EVO 3D] :
lmao. It caught my eye bro.

In The Cut, In The Cut Rolling Doobies Up!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] VirusZer0:
Eww.

10char
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Like this?

View attachment 717987

Sent from my 3::::::::::::Ð
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Lulz....... Dood, and that's a crazy sig.... Made me lmao..... Good stuff bro
[HTC EVO 3D] dkelle4:
quoted for truth +1
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Your sick lol

In The Cut, In The Cut Rolling Doobies Up!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Whoaa...

Don't Shrank me, bro!

Sent from my 3::::Ð
[HTC EVO 3D] :
LMFAO

In The Cut, In The Cut Rolling Doobies Up!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
"And in tonight's episode of

'Downloads, Drama, and **** Jokes...:"

Sent from my 3::::::::::::Ð
[HTC EVO 3D] :
"Mazook tells a story of a fight that broke out during camp. I guess he wasnt DICKing around as he COCKed back and let em have. Obviously his basketBALLS are precious."

In The Cut, In The Cut Rolling Doobies Up!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] iCaptivate:
We'll be right back with another true life episode on xda.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
See, guys, this can be the Dev section, and be fun all at the same time...

( Sorry @SHlFT, and Sorry @toast for the mini-jack....)

We now take you back to your regularly scheduled programming...

Sent from my 3::::::::::::Ð
[HTC EVO 3D] jkinnison90:
Well now that CM is out people are happy so I'm sure the dev section will be happy again.

Anyways this rom runs like a champ. Can't wait for a working battery percent.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
Okay....I've been using this rom all day and I just love it. I've decided screw the battery gauge for now lol. I just keep it on the charger forever lol. Just a couple questions...usage varies upon the person, but just curious how is everyone's battery life? You know beforecit shuts down lol. Also All this research has got me confused, right now with cm7 and the kernel, are we getting the use of both cores or just 1? Sorry if I'm rambling along. I do like hitting the thanks button...especially after I had a few drinks. Thanks in advance
[HTC EVO 3D] Cloudizzle:
well.I unplugged at 15 hours ago and i'm still going and i have been messing with the phone pretty much all day...
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
I'm pretty sure when custom kernels finally get a chance to dwell in the Dev. section, we will definitely have full dual core support. For now I think were getting the original 1 core, tap the other core in when its needed type of action.

My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! Screw Tupac. "A,O,S,P BACK!" >_<
[HTC EVO 3D] bwtl1000r:
I too have been unplugged for 15 hours and 18 minutes and messing all day. Pictures, browsing, texts, google +, settings, and 54 minutes of voice calls. 56 minutes of display time. I also have about 1.5 hours of spotify. I am amazed at this battery life.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
Well I'm going to sleep tonight ...but ill say a little cm7 prayer that toast will release the fix for the battery gauge tonight lol. I just can't leave cm after finally getting it on my evo3d :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] htcevo071595:
Great to see cm7 on my evo again lol, the only problem i have is that when i am playing dungeon defenders the screen seems to not respond to my fingers, i flashed back to synergy to see if it was a problem with my phone but, the game works fine in that rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] zgroten:
so my battery died and now my phone wont turn back on.. has this happened to anyone else?
[HTC EVO 3D] jfizz88:
im having the same issue. i did a reboot too but still the same. im running this with bootmanager

edit: i just got it to work by entering a static ip. i used info from my computers connection to get the DNS 1 & 2, subnet, etc
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Xda app alone smokes my battery. Doesn't matter what rom I'm on. I HAVE AN ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY.

Sent from my unrooted Galaxy Tab.
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
Leave it plugged in for a few minutes.... unplug and try booting it. If it doesnt boot still, hold vol down and press power. Then boot to recovery and use that to reboot to system

Sent from my Evo3D
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Yeah, it's pretty common and not specific to any ROM. Charge it for 10 minutes. Pull the battery for 5 seconds, put it back in and then hold the power button till it starts booting.
[HTC EVO 3D] zgroten:
i tried that a few times but did it just now and it booted... heh:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] pimp100500:
wow i sure m glad theres a fix...hope this works
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Yes, this happens once a night. When the battery.....discharges.

C'mon man, the battery meter isn't reporting correctly for this ROM, it's in the OP ;) Charge your phone, you'll be fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] marc.ientilucci:
this is GREAT. im heading to the bills/raiders game next Sunday and will need battery like this come sunday for sure. if the gauge is the only thing fixed by then im a happy tailgater. if not, im still a happy tailgater
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
I had all kinds of issues running this on bootmanger. I wiped and installed the normal way, no bootmanager and it has been working great all day.

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
So obviously the battery gauge is wrong since I have been unplugged all day and I'm at 97%... When I plug it in it charges with the red light for about 5-10 mins and then turns green. Now my question is, after it turns green at 100% s it still going to take a charge? Just curious because if it isn't I'm guessing the only way to fully recharge the battery is in recovery or turned off, correct? Which don't get me wrong, this isn't going t make me go back to sense :)