yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
yes, the cwm there is just the one from revolutionary with a new kernel base address.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ba3abbad:
ok , I'll try to run the recovery , is there a way to get the keys from the tablet ( it is on locked mode so I can't boot it ) and is there a way to install it from my external SD because it doesn't have enought battery to stay connected to the computer

regards
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rbebber:
if you have the hboot or fastboot screen on the tablet, you should be able to charge it for awhile
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ba3abbad:
yes but it doesn't , as I said the power led keeps blinking, and I can't plug it to the computer because the usb cable doesnt supply it with enough power. this is why I m ansking if there is way to install the original RUU without this battery check
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
If you can get it to boot to fastboot, flash the revolutionary recovery for HC/GB as appropriate using fastboot, charge then do what you want.

If you can't get it booted for long enough to do that, mechanical intervention will be required because you'll need to get at the battery one way or another.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
what happens if you select "power down" in the bootloader menu?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] skiptodd:
Flyer 16GB Wifi (Best Buy)

I upgraded my flyer to Fly Honey, this was my first experience doing something like that, the bad thing is now Im hooked on tinkering with this stuff.

FlyHoney is running great no complaints. but I want to try different Roms...

Because I dont have the stock rom for my flyer am I stuck? what are my options?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
how do i find out what my stock rom was? i dont remember. what i mean is the RUU there a dozen of them and i dont want to pick the wrong one. i simply cannot stand honeycomb, im wishing to revert to gingerbread asap.

i have a best buy wifi flyer 16gb.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
if you have a US Flyer and installed HC, you are stuck there. There is no way to revert that we have found works , either RUU or goldcard. (Doesn't anyone read the threads here???)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
mine was purchased from someone in hawaii so i have no idea. its in UK mode as far as language. you have got to be kidding me there no way to revert this back? i hate this thing now that HC is on it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
If its a BB Flyer its US then the original would have been. As below and there is no RUU for this model. The only way yo revert is to send it back to HTC for reflashing as far as I have found out. Some people have done that.

Model Number: HTC Flyer P512

Android version: 2.3.3

HTC Sense Version: 2.1 for Tablet

Software number: 1.36.1540.32

Kernel version: 2.6.35-gbcf1af

htc-kernel@and18-1 # 1

Baseband version: 20.3501.30.089BU_3809.05.04.10_M

Build number: 1.36.1540.32 CL50442 release-keys
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
so we cant just get the image from someone who hsnt made the upgrade and flash it back on there? what exactly is stopping us? and what is this gold card im reading about anyways?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
I'm going to refer you to the post in this thread and also this one. The answer is no, a backup image will not help you revert. This has been answered numerous times and I have posted many many times in the honeycomb threads warning that you cannot revert if you have US model Flyer.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1307759
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
and using the posted UK wont work? i cant even use this thing with this interface, it bizarre. if the UK would work illl deal with it not being US. this HC is UK and its legible, etc.

and i subscribed to that thread a bit ago, just unhapppy ive had this thing for 4 days and havent had a chance to really enjoy it because i upgraded it the day i got it, never should have. dumb move.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
You can try the WWE wifi RUU, if it works it works.

To my knowledge no one has successfully reverted a US model.

Contact the Original poster of the thread below (GlobalTron) he was working on a universal revert utility.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1307759
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
im willing to try it, i just cant stand this HC, its horrible. is the right one to try?

RUU_Flyer_HTC_WWE_Wifi_2.27.1114.31_Radio_20.3504. 30.089BU_3809.07.04.06_M_release_204727_signed.exe
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
That one is your best bet. Please report your results here
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
i definitly will. i dont get this gold card part....sigh
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
jump on the irc channel #flyer-downgrade on freenode if you need help
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sabesh:
I locked fastboot via Bootloader as the initial step.

However, the next step (creating a gold card) requires booting into Honeycomb. How can I unlock to get it? I tried this, but failed:

C:\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools>fastboot oem unlock

... INFO[ERR] Command error !!!

OKAY

Bootloader shows "*** RELOCKED ***".

Thanks.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
You re-unlock it exactly the same way as you initially unlocked it, by flashing the unlock token.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sabesh:
Will try it out. Thanks!

- Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
ok i screwed up and dont know what to do. i was going to try the UK RUU on my flyer and decided not to right after i got started. i did the first step, and now i see "relocked" security warning. i cannot seem to get it booted up. what do i do? :(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ba3abbad:
When I select "power down" the flyer turns off and reboots immediately
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Kudzus:
Unlock it again using your Unlock_code.bin

in fastboot type fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] M@|ice:
thank you! worked great.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Kudzus:
Your welcome :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] skiptodd:
im wondering... my bb flyer is upgraded to honey flyer running great. i want to try the flyhigh rom, can u tell the process you followed.

unless im interpreting ur post wrong.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sabesh:
Goldcard method didn't work for me. So I just did steps 1-4 and then flashed the original RRU. All good now.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Hello,

In one of your posts, you mentioned the reason for this case is no RUU for US BB Flyer right?

Before I attempted to update to HC, I was using Turkish ROM with sw number 2.27.468.1. There was also no RUU for this ROM but I used two another RUU's, WWE_2.00.405.3 (this is GB 2.3.3) and WWE_2.23.405.3 (this is GB 2.3.4). Before going to HC, it was WWE_2.23.405.3

Seems the case is similar. I didn' try to roll back to GB (just succeeded HC yesterday :D ) but I think I can with this rom since there's already a RUU. If it works the same way, flashing the US device with one of these ROMS then go to HC could be a solution?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Unfortunately I believe that all available RUUs have been tried for the US FLyer and failed. I have tried most of them and they check the model and fail with either a "wrong model" or CID error. WWE_2.23.405.3 definitely won't work because its for a 3g not a wifi model.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Today I gave a try if I can roll back to GB but couldn't manage.

I've prepared goldcard as explained and made PG41IMG.zip with WWE_2.23.405.3 (which was the ROM running on tablet before I went to 3.2.1).

First I forgot to relock the bootloader, tablet loaded PG41IMG.zip as the Sd card was already in. After the blue bar at right ended, nothing happened got back to bootloader.

I then relocked bootloader, ran procedured from the beginning; this time it didn't immidiately turned back to bootloader, first gave a msg "Checking PG41IMG.zip"; this time a yellow bar at right side.

After yellow bar was filled I got "UPdate error. Press power to reboot"

Now seems I couldn't go with goldcard either. Now I'm in HC 3.2.1. My very original ROM was Turkish one with 2.27.468.1 and there's no RUU for this. But I had switched to 2.23.405.3 before going HC

Edit: After a number of unsuccessful trials with different methods, finally I managed to get back to orginal 2.3.4 only with right RUU.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
ok stupid qestion time but what does prerparing the gold card accomplish. I am presuming one could not just take the PG41IMG.zip and put it in your sdcard?

I mean I have done so and in fastboot it recognizes it exist and the bar starts on the right then it ask me to install. Would this not work because the sdcard was not made a gold card?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
When it works properly, the gold card allows you to install images that were not intended for the device you are installing on (i.e. installing an Asia region ROM on a Europe model Flyer). It circumvents some of the safety checks. But the gold card does not always work and is clearly dangerous if you are not very sure of what you are installing.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
So then a gold card is not needed to install your own ruu? Meaning place the zip on sd and let her rip
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
That's where it gets a little strange and GlobalTron is the expert on restoration. For some it works fine as you described, for others just executing the RUU fails and the goldcard method is needed. I don't have enough experience with different models and failure modes to tell you why.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] qianhaorr:
Hi, there. my stituation is my bb wifi flyer now is on HC, definately I tried several ways and can't roll back to GB. but it is wired that for now, my wifi is not working, in settings it shows wifi error, and I can't check wifi. Anyone know what's going on with my flyer? It really sucks without wifi!!!!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Then you're doing it wrong. It is possible to roll back from any situation short of a dead emmc or corrupt hboot. If you can boot you can roll back.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] qianhaorr:
Yes!!!!! Now the problem is solved! after i relocked the bootloader, ruu ran perfectly and rolled back to GB!!!!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] x1123:
You Need to follow exactly globaltron GUIDES

ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb start-server
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb start-server
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb devices
List of devices attached

ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb devices
List of devices attached
HT15ST401430	device

ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb push misc_version_flyer_3G /data/local/tmp/misc_version
3451 KB/s (454748 bytes in 0.128s)
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/misc_version
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb shell /data/local/misc_version -s 1.48.707.4
/data/local/misc_version: not found
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb shell /data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.48.707.4--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to: 1.48.707.4
Patching and backing up partition 28...
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./unruu -k RUU_Flyer_hTC*.exe
bash: ./unruu: Permission denied
ThinkPad platform-tools # sudo cp unruu /usr/bin
ThinkPad platform-tools # chown root:root /usr/bin/unruu
ThinkPad platform-tools # chmod 755 /usr/bin/unruu
ThinkPad platform-tools # unruu -k RUU_Flyer_hTC*.exe
Extracting temporary files...
Extracting rom.zip...
Cleaning up...
Done!

Then go ahead

ThinkPad platform-tools # ./adb reboot-bootloader
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot oem lock
... INFOLock successfully...
FAILED (status read failed (Cannot send after transport endpoint shutdown))
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot erase cache
erasing 'cache'... OKAY
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot oem rebootRUU
... INFOerase sector 163328 ~ 163839 (512)
OKAY
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot flash zip rom.zip
sending 'zip' (519367 KB)... OKAY
writing 'zip'... INFOadopting the signature contained in this image...
INFOsignature checking...
INFOzip header checking...
INFOzip info parsing...
INFOchecking model ID...
INFOchecking custom ID...
INFOchecking main version...
INFOstart image[hboot] unzipping for pre-update check...
INFOstart image[hboot] flushing...
INFO[RUU]WP,hboot,0
INFO[RUU]WP,hboot,100
INFOstart image[radio] unzipping for pre-update...
INFOstart image[radio] flushing...

ENDED WITH
INFO[RUU]WP,radio,93
INFO[RUU]WP,radio,100
FAILED (remote: 90 hboot pre-update! please flush image again immediately)

AND REFLASHING >

ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot flash zip rom.zip
sending 'zip' (519367 KB)... OKAY
writing 'zip'... INFOadopting the signature contained in this image...
INFOsignature checking...
INFOzip header checking...
INFOzip info parsing...
INFOchecking model ID...
INFOchecking custom ID...
INFOchecking main version...
INFOstart image[boot] unzipping & flushing...
INFO[RUU]UZ,boot,0
INFO[RUU]UZ,boot,30

ENDED WITH
INFOstart image[rcdata] unzipping & flushing...
INFO[RUU]UZ,rcdata,0
INFO[RUU]WP,rcdata,0
INFO[RUU]WP,rcdata,100
OKAY
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot reboot-bootloader
rebooting into bootloader... OKAY
ThinkPad platform-tools # ./fastboot reboot
rebooting...

Bingo .... downgraded
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] shadow78:
Hi,

I am stucked at the very beginning.. I cannot even go into the bootlodaer. I tried everything but my device just restarts if I hold vol down and power bottom.

Do I have to unlock the bootloder first to be able to boot into?

Thx
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jacobbones:
Will locking the bootloader and running the GB RUU work on a flyer running stock s-off HC?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
No third post in s off hc thread to downgrade
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] PVL_93_RU:
Um, guys, can somebody provide me with a rom.zip from official NOT ROOTED 3.55.405.1 or at least an hboot?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinrocksman:
I'm a bit confused. How is this better/not a copy than/of globatrons method?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] anworm:
i go 1~4 and run

RUU_Flyer_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.27.707.1_Radio_20.3504.30.089BU_3809.07.04.06_M_release_204905_signed

and get error 140 bootloader version error.

my cid=044 mean ASIA xx707

any help
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
Could someone make HTC Sense theme for KPO Ace? Or guide me how to make perfect one like fla.sh's AOSP theme (which is perfect but too raw for me).

I know that I can use UOT kitchen but the perfection of fla.sh's AOSP theme is much beyond the possibilities of UOT kitchen.

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] fla.sh:
You want a Sense theme? I could make it possible :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
Yay! It would be awesome. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] rhadrio:
..or better yet; a Sense ROM lol :D

If you're interested, I am more than happy to help. Though my skills with Android arent really as good as yours but Im willing to learn. :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
But with Sense ROM, making Sense there is pointless :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] seilent:
like this one..?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14363645&postcount=22

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6268592/Ace/Theme/Froyo/sense/update.zip (froyo)

but sorry I didn't have time to make it for KPO :(

too busy with my work right now :(

wednesday maybe.. ;)

*but it would be good if fla.sh porting that to KPO
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Diliban:
Sense theme for Froyo is looking awesome.. Feel like going back to Froyo.. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
It's really good. Are the highlights in lists like settings and menu-key menus also green?

There are however two things I don't like:

1. Notification area background (something plain will fit better than transparent carbon-like imo)

2. Battery percentage doesn't look good there for me.

I'm also looking forward to see fla.sh's one ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] seilent:
that's themes is posted long long ago :D

ya. but lets wait for fla.sh to port em..

because myself won't post anymore themes :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] rhadrio:
True that. BUT have you seen a Sense ROM before? Its beauty isnt only "skin-deep" :p

I've used Sense based ROM back then, on my old WinMo phone. There are soo many exciting features embedded in Sense. The real-flipping-clock widget is one example.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
I've seen some stuff that sense can do but I've never used sense rom. I think I gonna borrow my uncle's G1 and flash sense rom.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] rhadrio:
Older Sense may lack some new features but could still provide you with tons of eye-candies..

Try it, I bet you it'll worth the while :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
Is it possible to port Sense launcher to other phones without porting all sense framework?

I know that there are LP and ADW mods to look like Sense but they are not perfect (LP Sense is quite good however)

Sense theme + launcher is more what I'm waiting for than full Sense. :rolleyes:

Also, fla.sh could you tell how are the progress on theme? I'm not asking for eta :p

Edit:

Forget the launcher. I found the one I asked before.

The colourful bokeh sense live wallpaper and theme is only missing thing now.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] fla.sh:
I'm making the theme right now :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] CallMeVentus:
YES ! ME WANT HTC SENSE
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
Does KPT have same framework as KPO/KPN? Because I just flashed it :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] neophyte1983:
I have the original flip clock with weather widget in original sense style on my ace :D:D:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Maryushi3:
Met too :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] geraldgeron:
hey you had screenies of the one for froyo?

sounds good..hehehe..

want to try..im at stock froyo dxkc1 with ketuts cf_root..

hehehe..

btw how to install with cwm4?

just update zip also?

i had royskeyz theme for kc1 how was that?

do i have to install your theme lyk installing others?

ok i saw it..i lyk it..

you have other themes..you rock dude.^^
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] geraldgeron:
hey..i had tried ur htc sence..

it works i think..the only problem was the lockscreen now on my phone with your theme was not the same to the screenies you had posted..

in short my lockscreen was same as stock..

also about the widget and dock bar seems not same also..it was the stock also..

wew..

any insight?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lovely.Boy:
Hi . i'm using Lite'ning Rom v6.1 from the day i bought GS2 .

i'm facing some kinda problems & i'm not sure if it's coming from the ROM so i came here 2 ask .

1 - i wanted to get free Credits in Contract killer game which can be get by clicking the ads at the bottom of the screen ( as other users told me ) .

but for me there was no kinda ads anywhere !

2 - using GameCIH 2 . every one knows that the way to get the full version , is by clicking the ads in the bottom . for me no ads was there !

i'm using WiFi . and i'm sure it's not coming from the internet .

can anyone tell me what the hell is wrong ?

TNX
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 4038153:
If you suspect something is blocking ads on the phone, it's likely to do with the hosts file.

Check /system/etc/hosts, if there's a bunch of entries, hosts are being blocked.

If you're not confident checking that file yourself, AdAway has an option to disable ad blocking (i.e. putting a blank hosts file in /system/etc/hosts) which might resolve your problems.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Read the description of the rom and tools in it .

No Ads ??

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lovely.Boy:
yea i found that file named hosts .

i opened it with notepad on PC there was so many http addresses !

Should i jus remove it ?

Edit : i used root explorer but i couldn't remove it /
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 4038153:
Just leave 127.0.0.1 localhost
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lovely.Boy:
How should i edit the file ?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 4038153:
I don't use root explorer, but I expect you'd need to remount /system as r/w to be able to edit the file.

As I mentioned earlier, the simplest way of fixing your problem is probably to download AdAway and select the option to disable ad-blocking, it will take care of the rest.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lovely.Boy:
Oh man that jus worked .

thank u man . i really appreciated it .
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magpir:
I find an anamoly here. When u turn on the battery saver when yr messenger status is offline,it seems to drain.

But when i turn back the messenger to online and use battery saver, the battery holds better.

Is there any hidden process going on in a loop which can drain the battery?

Maybe battery saver is trying to turn off messenger but couldn't so a process is looping endlessly?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regencyhood:
Hi

Am facing an issue the flashtool is not recognizing X10_aZuZu_Kernel_Downgrade_Generic.ftf

X10_aZuZu_Kernel_UpGrade_Generic.ftf

BUT recognizes

X10i_3.0.1.G.0.75_only kernel_baseband.ftf

I am placing all the files in FlashTool\firmwares folder

Version of FlashTool : 0.3.0.0

Please help as flashing aZuZu kernel downgrade is the 1st step to bl unlocking!!! cant proceed futher....:confused:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aimcr7:
Happen to me either, fixed by redownloading ftf files.

Make sure your download not interupted.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regencyhood:
Thanks...it worked !!!

Really feel stupid not to try this soln b4....neways thnks again!!!
[Epic 4G General] garyf:
I hope Gingerbread is actually released one day with source and that it will be possible to make the alterations such as removing CIQ that were done with Froyo.

Time will tell.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase

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[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
We will get it. The new Conquer has it and it is basically an Epic. I think they want to resolve the reboot issue that has plagued new Gingerbread releases from the start. Then they can wash their hands of the Epic and not worry about any more maintenance releases.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
This. Too all those who doubt, read again.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Well what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much improvement from the last few leaks..
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
It's coming, but I voted later.:rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
[Epic 4G General] corythug:
Wouldn't doubt it hah
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.

I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.

Just my IMO.
[Epic 4G General] malcolmXman:
I want an Epic2 so bad right now, I think the last rdf pushed me over the line I'm affraid to say...
[Epic 4G General] counterfeit187:
I wish the epic2 had a keyboard. I'm probably going to hold off on getting any new phones until the next good android with a slide out keyboard. in the meantime I really wish they would put out source to our Dev's who seem to have a much better handle on debugging and let us get our cyanogen on. Hell with a good cyanogen 7 rom I probably wouldnt get a new phone for another 2-3 years.
[Epic 4G General] malcolmXman:
Agreed, I mean I have to face the facts, Ill have this phone for at least 1 more year, and I'm sure longer, since Ill probably wait till the next "thing" comes out after I'm eligable for an upgrade.