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[HTC ChaCha] wild_oscar:
It's a pitty that you need S-OFF to use link2SD. I've just checked and the Chacha is currently S-On, and as I see it you need special gadgetry that makes it not worth it to S-off it...

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Really? How do all of you guys manage to do it with such a lousy internal storage?
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
Well, most of us with S-OFF's (we did it before the bootloader unlock on htcdev) are using custom ROMs or modded ROMs (stock ROMs that have been stripped down to basic) which gives us about 120-140 MB of free space. Also using App2SD, ext-partition (on custom roms) and other thingies. Mainly I've got tons of applications (and by tons I mean about 20-25) out of which I need about 5?!
[HTC ChaCha] paramaribo:
What is the best and stable rom on the moment? I want to try cm7 but it still has a few issues. And wich one are you using now alex.c?
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
I'm changing ROMs once every 4-5 days, between SuperOSR and CM. Even if they do have some small flaws, I'm trying different things to see if workarounds are possible.

On the other hand, this is my main phone so basically for about an hour every 4-5 days I can't be contacted and stuff :)

I've used moded ROMs for a while, for the simple fact that you have every feature fully functional, but then again, the stock ROM has an awfully poor memory management, no CPU frequency changer, Link2SD, Linux Swap and other cool stuff that's worth it on custom ROMs more than those small flaws.

It's up to you which one you like the most, maybe the stock one, maybe the stripped down stock one, maybe a custom ROM, maybe flowers and the sunshine :D

I suggest you take a day or two and play around with these options.

EDIT: Updated OP with #15, info regarding CIDs and how to get them.
[HTC ChaCha] wild_oscar:
@Alex: A couple of questions:

- given the HTC method doesn't give you S-OFF (which is needed for links2sd, apparently), what do you consider the best approach to pimp up my gf's S-ON phone (in terms of root/s-off/roms), given that:

- she's really annoyed at the low storage issue and that's the only downside to the phone

- she loves the phone experience

- as a regular user, having to clean all settings/restore to factory/change roms every other week is not very appealing...

Cheers!
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
A couple of questions from my side:

- what kinda of user is she? (light/normal/advanced), as in how much does she use the phone/day.

- how many apps does she use/install, is she curious about random apps on the market that she downloads and use once? (like most of us do)

- does she use FB/Tweeter?

- does she enjoy the looks of custom roms and their usability?

From my perspective, a SuperOSR/CM build should be perfect but these do not have FB/Tweeter by default (thus the FB button won't do anything).

I'm still inclined towards one of the above, yet some stock modded ROMs are also very good (from what I've read in the threads). Keep in mind that I haven't used a stock/mod ROM since October-November and I do not know the full behavior, internal space available and whatnots.
[HTC ChaCha] wild_oscar:
She's a normal user: uses the phone extensively, mostly on the internet (uually on red battery in the evening).

She uses a fairly good amount of apps. She should have like 5-8 apps but needs to delete a lot of them because of low storage

Just FB. Lets say her favourite activity is to browse the "friendstream" widget ;)

Well, as a regular user, she likes shiny and polished. I don't know how the custom roms for the ChaCha look like. Personally, I found most roms for the HTC Desire to be a bit ugly-looking. I went for insertcoin (a HTC-sense powered custom rom) and she loves the look of my phone.

Cheers!
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
Honestly I tend to say the CM or SuperOSR builds. But then again, we both know that they're not that shiny, whereas they'll both give you enough space to install lots of apps. Take a shot or two around the modded stock ROMs and see how they work for her and if internal memory is still low, get SuperOSR, activate linux swap, application movement, activate App2SD and that'll give her enough memory to install a lot of applications.

Basically I've had (until two days ago) 3 apps of 17,77 MB each, about 5 apps of 5 MB each and about another 4-5 completely useless apps that were less than 5 MB. Free internal space available was 97MB.
[HTC ChaCha] Yorzua:
edit OP

Root and CWM are possible without S-OFF

You just need to unlock the bootloader.

I made a full tuto here :cool:
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
You quoted and didn't read it :))

I stated: root and CWM are not possible without S-OFF/unlocked bootloader.

/ = or :D
[HTC ChaCha] Yorzua:
Always better trying to be as clear as possible,

even more for the Chacha community which is not big :rolleyes:

Let me know if we get a

ZIP

(

not a backup

) on 1.57 for the chacha, i will deodexed it and start to work on it waiting to be s-off :D

Thanks Alex
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1447330

All we've got on 1.57. Unfortunately I couldn't get my hands on the EU/WWE build though.
[HTC ChaCha] Yorzua:
how to extract a rom from the Ruu

I dont have admin rights on my pc at work,

can someone try to follow my tuto "how to extract a rom from the Ruu" please ?

https://sites.google.com/site/androidbyyorzua/home/tutorials/extracting-rom-files-from-htc-ruu

Please post feedback if you do. :)
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
In a sec, let me see if I still have the .zip backup around, otherwise I'll upload it 15-30 minutes.
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
It's up in here:

http://alex.swtesting.ro/downloads/
[HTC ChaCha] Yorzua:
Thank you but i dont see any rom.zip file in your directory :

ChaCha1.54CWM_CLEAN.zip

OTA_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.54.401.2-1.33.401.1_release_224463.zip

ruu_chacha_htc_asia_wwe_1.57.707.2_radio_47.23.35.3033h_7.51.35.19_release_228383_signed.zip

I asked someone to follow my tuto, i have already the ruu_chacha_htc_asia{...}.zip file and i cannot work on \OTA_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.54.401.2-1.33.401.1_release_224463.zip\patch\system\ before to deodex the whole package ... :o

Edit : by the way, OTA_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.54.401.2-1.33.401.1_release_224463.zip will give you a downgrade hboot to ==> hboot_1.07.0000.img [ until further notice, i prefer to keep the hboot 1.10.0000 ]
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
I renamed it from rom.zip to the one above for easier reference.
[HTC ChaCha] Hongrois123:
stuck with 2.3.3 (OTA no updt)- official unlock with htc website's ruu-s needs 2.3.5

Dear All, I am with brand new phone and was trying the official update process, but got stuck, since my SW number is only 1.20.720.1

I am quite certain that without the OTA working for me, I can find the same file from Alex's downloads: OTA_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.54.401.2-1.33.401.1_release_224463.zip

However I cannot apply it, and I started to get worries being S ON, can somebody help me how to root my phone either beginning with the official update or

recommend another solution to get from 2.3.3 till a rooted 2.3.5?

basically I need root just for TitBackup to work and to trash some things for space...

Thank You in advance
[HTC ChaCha] paramaribo:
Go to htcdev website and unlock your chacha..
[HTC ChaCha] Hongrois123:
I did... problem that it expects latest 2.3.5, though I have 2.3.3.

and I get nothing by OTA

so basically I need to flash somehow a good 2.3.5 e.g. 1.54 in order for me to start from somewhere the official unlock with RUU.
[HTC ChaCha] Yorzua:
follow htcdev tuto

How about to launch the HTC Europe 1.54.401.2 PH0611000 available here :

http://www.htcdev.com/ruu/PH0611000_Chacha_hboot_1.10.0000.exe

No particular aknowledge required _ very simple executable windows exe called Rom Update Utility totally safe for your device

Please follow the HTC Dev tuto and you will be fine !

edit : New thread for Whatsapp mods

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21840707#post21840707
[HTC ChaCha] ultrablu3:
Hello!

Yesterday I did all first three steps(bootloader unlocking, root, CWM) + CyanogenMod7. Everything was going well untill I click on Camera - "Activity Camera (in application Camera) is not responding" message was shown and i can no longer switch on the camera.

Hope I'm writting in the right Thread, because i couldn't do it in "[ROM] SuperOSR and CyanogenMod7 on HTC ChaCha." as I am a new user...

P.S. Interestingly, torch light is working
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
Have you installed the latest CM build? Camera should be working.

Also, have you wiped data/cache and dalvik-cache before?

Try this build again http://www.mediafire.com/?wf66yp9e7u93u64 and post your reply here.
[HTC ChaCha] Hongrois123:
this is exactly what I was doing. with the same file You linked.

and this updater said that I need to have 2.3.5 on the device first in order to run.

Now how am I supposed to do that if I have 2.3.3 (1.20.xx.), nothing comes on OTA, and bootloader is not open yet for flashing other rom-s?
[HTC ChaCha] ultrablu3:
Although I have wiped everything before installing exactly this build, i'm going to do it again. Do I have to choose between wipe data/factory reset and cache partition now or I have to wipe both of them + dalvik-cache?
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
All of them: data, cache, dalvik.
[HTC ChaCha] ultrablu3:
Thank u for the advices - little surprisingly, but the camera is working (:

However, is there a way to change the FM radio from CyanogenMod7 with the original one of Chacha, because CM7's doesn't detect some of my local radio stations and needs bluetooth in order to work.
[HTC ChaCha] hcseanwu:
Ok guys I am a newb and I need help.

I have just finished unlocking the bootloader process via the htcdev site.

What is next...?

All I want is to expand the internal memory of my phone, its just not enough!

I know the built in APP2SD feature, but clearly some apps do not support it such as Google maps and facebook, both apps are like 20MB already. And my contact is like 20MB. :(

I have a 32GB SD card installed in the phone, is there a way that I can convert those storage units into internal memory?

Thanks for the help!
[HTC ChaCha] dapaua:
I have an spanish orange chacha and i was in the same situation as your are. You need to create a goldcard, run the ruu, search the temp directory on your pc for a rom.zip file, copy and rename it to the sd card and boot your phone into recovery. It should install from there.

Follow this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18750723&postcount=13
[HTC ChaCha] Hongrois123:
Thank You very much. Goldcard actually worked itself reporting that my SD is a goldcard.

Right now I am flashing an RUU from this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1272676&page=4 its supposedly 1.33

I dont know what ROM I should install after this...

I want to be root to solve memory issues to move stuff from stock apps, but I dont want any issues from other aspects... All stock roms have this memory pileup with the contacts, updateable apps etc on internal memory, plus no titanium backup is possible on them?

Which Rom do You recommend as of today?

Yak - [ROM] RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1 is a 2.3.3 ROM. :-( littlebit disappointed, lets see is its better with space and the dialer-battery issue

but this ROM I could install thats it.. my dev is S-ON... no more good news
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
http://alex.swtesting.ro/downloads/
[HTC ChaCha] dapaua:
It won't fix the dialer issue, believe me.

Now you should be able to repeat the process with the Euro Rom from htcdev. Use:

HTC Europe	1.54.401.2	PH0611000 http://www.htcdev.com/ruu/PH0611000_Chacha_hboot_1.10.0000.exe

Flash this one (If the link doesn't work, Go to HTCDev.com and log-in).

And now the bootloader should show S-ON LOCKED.

And follow the instructions. I did exactly the same process as you did, even had installed the 1.33 update for a while. Now I'm really happy with SuperOSR.
[HTC ChaCha] Hongrois123:
Thanks a lot! I even tried 1.57 Asian stock rom since then, because I thought at startup the mem usage will be good. (smaller stock app kit) But then what it does: some downloaded apps (even WhatsUpp) cant be moved - so I am at 9MB free space again.

I dont know for whom/ what kind of user are these stock roms being developed.

So I am ready for SuperOSR or CM7.

Sure, no issues? Front camera in Skype e.g.?...I dont know..other typical discrepancies?

Thanks in advance, You are really helpful!
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
Front camera is not working on any of the two custom ROMs (yet). Please check the development thread for both of them (I know there are a lot of pages to read but they are helpful).
[HTC ChaCha] Hongrois123:
CM7 or SuperOSR install after fresh official unlock

Thanks.. without front camera one can live I guess (for a while until they post here [ROM] SuperOSR and CyanogenMod7 on HTC ChaCha.)

Really sorry guys, but I need to ask:

1-after this HTCDev unlock: Can I install other roms without Root first and root afterwards from the new OS?

(I am askin because doomlord v4 gives me error messages not findig paths)

2-after sending CWM to the phone also through CMD (which I did OK) - what is the next step to flash ? In this folder (SuperOSR-chacha-2.4-20120131-0159) there is a 3Meg boot.img file and 80mega of hard stuff in folders. How do I send this on the phone?

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Or maybe this way I must CWM:

[S-OFF] [Updated 23-01-12] ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.7 port for the HTC Chacha.

although topic is S-OFF officially unlocked device works this way

Or maybe I am to read here

Getting the chacha rooted after htcdev unlock

its in the general topics, not the developer

sorry if I asked stupid......
[HTC ChaCha] dapaua:
Hongrois123, you are nearly there!

Now copy the SuperOSR zip file to your SD card, you don't need to unzip it, it has to be the zip file you downloaded. Put it in the SD card, and then boot into recovery.

The CWM menu will appear. Choose flash zip from SD card, and then choose the SuperOSR file. While until it finishes and then choose reboot and that's it.

To navigate SuperOSR: Arrows or volume allow you to move. To select options press Enter. And to go back press power.

Good luck!

The following is optional, but I would recommend you to do this first:

Backup your SD card onto your PC. Boot into recovery, and choose Advanced ->Partition SD card. Choose at least 512MB for ext partition, 0 Mb for swap. You will lose those MB for other things, so don't do this procedure if you have a very small SD card. This 512 MB will be used in addition to the 150MB the ChaCha has available to install applications, so it will be a noticeable improvement. It is a bit slower, though. You will lose all data on the SD when you do this procedure, and that is why I told you to do the backup. Restore the SD data, and then do the part about flashing SuperOSR. It can be done afterwards, of course.

Once you have SuperOSr installed, go to Settings-> SupSetup-> SDCard options and enable Apps2SD. The terminal will reboot and you will see that your empty space has increased. You can use Titanium backup to check the remaining space in your ext partition.

Again , from supsetup, go to CPU options and Set max speed to 800, it will make your phone faster (The original rom has this enabled as default).

And when finally you have your phone set up as you want, go to CWM recovery and do a backup. This way you can return to exactly this setup if you break anything.

I would recommend the CWM recovery 5, as the version 4 has problems recognizing the ext partition when it does backups.
[HTC ChaCha] Alex C.:
Thanks man, you just made my Friday morning easier! :)
[HTC Desire S] srachev:
I am looking into buying a new HTC Desire S and have been reading the forum and am disappointed to see so many threads indicating problems with bricked desire s, fried chips etc.

How often do these problems arise? Is the build quality consistently bad? Any other opinions from users both satisfied and unhappy with with their devices?

The other phone i am considering is the SAMSUNG NEXUS S I9023 but the only concerns I have there is that it does not have the gorilla glass display (and that i haven't fully researched it yet). How important and nice is the glass display really?

I am currently using an Xperia X1 so most things will be a big improvement but want to make the best choice.
[HTC Desire S] det66:
There do seem to be a few with this prob of bricking but a consistent factor in that is pulling the battery and immediately replacing it. If you do have to pullthe battery as a last resort leave it for 30 secs or so before replacing.

Also it must be remembered how many Ds there are out there and how many have no problems.

Personally I have found no faults with mine.Build quality is generally good ,ok battery cover could be better ,but it is not bad.

This is a really good versatile phone ,if you want to root it its relatively easy to do and there are plenty of Roms for it,but even as stock it's pretty damned impressive.

If you go through forums you will find faults and problems with every phone ever made !;)

Ps

Re the display I find it's very good,I don't watch a lot of movies or game on the phone,but what I want it to do it does well.
[HTC Desire S] :
^ +1 to that.

I've had no problems with mine (bought SIM free and unlocked in the UK) since I got it back in May. I do keep mine in a sturdy case with screen protector fitted though, so can't really say one way or another about the gorilla glass and other reported issues of paint coming off. Gorilla glass is only scratch resistant, not scratch proof. Many have managed it with a single grain of sand. Mostly it seems to be people who use pouches. Get a bit of sand in there, and as you drag the phone in and out the pouch, the sand is dragged across the screen.

Case-mate screen protectors (when correctly applied) are nearly indistinguishable from a bare screen. They feel as smooth as the glass they cover, which is a failing of the cheap "5 for £10" deals you see. Use the cheap ones to get your application technique down!

The fried chip is an issue with early models. HTC are aware and no doubt the later models have been fixed (you'd hope.) To avoid the scenario that breaks them, simply avoid hitting the 'update all' button in the Marketplace. Update apps one at a time. If your phone does freeze up, use the three-finger-technique before a battery pull. Hold down both up & down volume buttons, then hold the power button. That'll reboot the phone.

A fantastic phone. And very good XDA community support for it too. :)
[HTC Desire S] decoyknox:
Most of the time the problems are self-inflicted for instance the battery pull. Just treat the phone with care and everything should be fine. Name me one phone that doesn't have some problems. There might be a slight negative but don't let that small ~5% outweigh the plethora of benefits and joy this phone brings.

Not only that you have this fantastic community to come to when **** ****s up. Getting this phone will be a choice you won't regret, trust me.
[HTC Desire S] fasty:
Consider it in perspective - you are reading posts from a few people who, yes, are experiencing issues of some kind or wish to improve performance.

The vast majority who don't perceive any problems don't post in the forums!

I've used several different smartphones in the past (mostly the old windows mobile) and I've been generally delighted at robust performance and build quality of my Desire S. You may read about badly fitted screen glass, creaky battery covers etc; I have not experienced any of those.

- Steve
[HTC Desire S] Safidk:
I have had my ds in about 6months, and I have never had any big problems with it. Have had about 3 different roms on it,and no flash problems. So if you ask me, just go for it!
[HTC Desire S] ptptaylor:
I have had a Desire S for about a month now and haven't noticed anything terrible.

Previous to this I had a Desire which unfortunately I lost / got stolen. Compared to the Desire, it is a nicer phone in general however there are a few negatives which come with it.

I noticed (maybe I never used my old desire in the same way) that when I run it as a sat nav it gets pretty warm. Although this heat within the design tolerance you don't expect it.

With Sense UI it tended to crash and reboot once every few days - which isn't awful but at the same time it's not exactly great! I am now using a custom ROM (I did this with my Desire also) and have found it to be a much more pleasant experience.

The ROMs seem to be more buggy than those found on the Desire but they haven't had such a long time to be developed, so it is to be expected.

I hope I haven't added confusion to your thoughts, I'm only giving the experience I have taken from it so far.

Also I would love to report bugs to the ROM developers in the developer section however I do not have the power to do so as I haven't posted enough, so if anyone is watching I get power? I have wanted to previously (a few months ago) but haven't ever got round to coming into these forums to allow me to give bugs. Quite an annoying feature of the forums...
[HTC Desire S] gr8guzzler:
I've been using this phone from 6 months and simply love the build quality, one of the main reasons I opted for HTC over the other manufacturers. And since I have rooted the device, been enjoying the great variety of ROM's available on this forum.

Only issue I have had till date is the low sound of the speakerphone and lack of native 3g video calling support.
[HTC Desire S] LaKraven:
With the exception of the Batteries, I've not had any real problems with the Desire S. Hell, even the Battery issues can be resolved either by replacing the battery (in the case of a faulty battery) or replacing the Stock ROM (which, let's face it, is the reason people are here in the first place).
[HTC Desire S] Link69:
HTC have the best build quality :) and the battery is so good ( for me ).
[HTC Desire S] B3rtbot:
I've had my Desire S about a month now and have had no problems. After rooting, custom ROMs, overclocking etc, still no problems. It really depends what you put on it, and how you treat it. Be careful to read certain posts before attempting any roots, custom ROMing etc. :cool:
[HTC Desire S] -Maarten:
My DSS has been through quite a lot, starting with ARX S-OFF + CWMR. Upon that, I've flashed a new radio and tried quite a few custom ROMs and also switched back to a stock ROM a few times. Now I have successfully restored everything back to stock since it needs to be sent in for repair to have defect hardware replaced. My impression is that the DSS is quite durable.
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
I am bit dissapointed not only by the Desire S who keeps rebooting for unknown reason after a couple of months but also the android is lacking some basic features.

Like a (proxy)profile per Wifi network, good and stable sync features with MS office suite

to name a few.

I am sometimes wondering if I would have bought the thing if I knew al this I know now. I guess not.
[HTC Desire S] abip:
I have mine over 6 months now, and no problems so far except for a faulty app that made it reboot once or twice a week. The build quality is excelent and the battery can go from 2 days in normal use to 4 days in 'contension mode' (calls, texting, a couple of photos and very little use of data connection and gps).

I'm very pleased so far although it is my first smartphone
[HTC Desire S] WibblyW:
I am now 11 days on a stock ROM without feeling the need to restart the phone for one reason or another. That it's a record for me speaks to how I feel about it. Not going to rant here, do a search for my other posts if you're interested. Folk here say my experience is not at all typical so, as they say, YMMV. Good luck :-)
[HTC Desire S] sayeed91:
My issue is sweaty fingers when holding it. The aluminum back is annoying ill go for the nexus s
[HTC Desire S] elburna:
+1 always afraid, that something inside might get wet...

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