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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
I love my bionic like I loved my Dx like I loved my dinc like I loved my d1 like I loved my Eris. Locked or unlocked eff that iPhone, I love my android powered device and I love what our developers are doing/trying to do for us for free. Only payment they get is the risk of turning there phone into a shiny brick. #justsayin #showsomesupport
[Motorola Droid Bionic] projektorboy:
A part of me wonders if Motorola will conveniently have an "oops" and the EU unlock tools end up working on USA hardware.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] firefighterguy:
Speaking for myself only, I am not necessarily 'complaining.' I am saying that Moto needs to get their act together and quit making up excuses like its up to the carrier. As in a card game I love to play, I'm calling 'bull****.'. Because VZW has MANY other phones/devices with an unlockable bootloader. Why would VZW/Moto let the Xoom be unlockable and not their phones? It seems ludicrous.

I love my Bionic. And love the hardware and capabilities. It would love it even more if the bootloader was unlockable. Look at the XOOM's and TB's sales because of it. It SOARED. Doubtful VZW would cut their own achilles tendon. But I'm surprized no one said anything to Moto yet. And made them change things. I don't know who to believe. Moto or VZW.

But one thing is for sure, Google is big and powerful enough they could come in and tell BOTH, if need be, to get their act together. And if Google's acquisition of Moto Mobility is approved and finalized, then I suspect they will do just that. And the next "developer" phone will be a Moto phone (hopefully) and not Samsung's Nexus. (Don't start blasting me. I love Nexus and Samsung is a good phone. But hardware wise and such, Moto blows the doors off everyone. So Google going for Moto Mobility is brilliant from Google's standpoint).

And I do not develop for myself. If the bootloader is unlocked, it means thst the dev's who are helping us out can now cook in different kernels and create REAL ROM's and such. Making it even better than what we can(not) do now.

That would be nice, wouldn't it? Lol.

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] yutzyscott:
I would like to start by saying "love the mark twain quote." Second I would like to say I bought this locked phone because I liked the hardware and for months before it was released we were led to believe that the bootloader would be unlockable. It wasn't until after we all spent our hard earned money that we were told "no!" This phone was sold under false pretenses. Not to mention that there were about 100 bugs and issues that both Motorola and Verizon knew about prior to release but, still failed to disclose to us until after they sold hundreds or thousands of them for 300 to 600 dollars. I feel I got cheated. The hardware is still good though and I believe that all the wrongs could be made right if they would disclose the method for unlocking.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bplewis24:
That's not exactly fair. Motorola had actually announced that phones in late 2011 would have an unlockable bootloader solution. They are reneging on that promise.

Brandon
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
And this is surprising to you? Corporations will always reevaluate what is best for them in sakes now and in the future. Keeping them locked makes it more difficult for prolonged programming purposes and they hope it will instigate more future phone purchases due to outdated programming. To believe they would keep their promise I think is a mistake in its own.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] casca_the_immortal:
It's not Motorola that is doing it. You want Verizon Wireless shareholders to understand this. They spec out the phones and how security is handled, Motorola is like McDonalds they will serve fries with salt or without...

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Exactly, what they think they understand is this:

People that can root their phones can get the best features and have no reason to upgrade. So rooting phones = bad upgrade sales.

What they need to understand is this:

The people that root their phones are 90% nerd. They want the best hardware and will buy it as soon as humanly possible so they can satiate their nerve crave and get their rom on.

So rooting phones = doesn't matter, people will upgrade when they can afford it regardless.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
Very well put. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Zach
[Motorola Droid Bionic] das7771:
Something similar happened for the Verizon xperia play. There was an unlock for the gsm and overseas carriers from a sony website. Some devs took that method and made a program that could generate an unlock code according to your imei. It Worked good. I still have my unlocked verizon xperia play sitting in my drawer.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
I know this has not been updated in quite a while now, But, kenneth, have you taken a look at the released update that came out today? It is actually no different from the previously found 5.5.893 update file, but someone posted in a couple of different forums that VZW is requesting that Motorola remove the pre-requisite checks before the update is finally delivered....

I have a BIONIC, and I'm more than willing to play - I've partially messed it up (tried to flash to older file from 5.7.893 and now the phone always boots up with error message that the flash failed - but I can force it to boot normally from bootloader menu --> Boot normally
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cellzealot:
My Bionic is in exactly the same state as yours I believe, as we have taken similar paths throughout the course of the cheesecake leaks. I think the solution will be obtaining a full XML.zip of this release that will reflash everything with the properly signed and asserted components.

I also believe, FWIW, that both VZW and Motorola are well aware of the large number of users who have flashed the leaked files and will find a way to allow them to get back on the officially sanctioned upgrade path. They may not acknowledge it openly and I would be surprised if they did strictly from a legal and PR standpoint, but I think it is in their interest to do so and they will tacitly make it possible, even if it is just putting the file where they know it can be found by prior methods.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
That seems to be the case when taking into account the other poster's comments about what the Tech Support supervisor stated.

We'll see.

@Cellzealot - your BIONIC does the Flash failed on boot up as well? Interesting.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
Shouldn't you guys be able to fastboot flash the .img files for whatever got messed up? The system.img namely?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twinkyz1979:
you can flash everything back to stock except the kernel it seems to fail every time you try it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cellzealot:
My Bionic is fine and is running 5.7.893 and I have reverted and flashed forwards again several times attempting various combinations of files.

After the last cycle when I used the original stock radio zip from the .886 fxz to revert the radios, it was successful but always boots to the flash unsuccessful bootloader screen and then you hold the volume buttons and select normal boot up and it does just that

So, something seems to have tripped a part of the security such that it throws that error but then allows it to boot anyway

We haven't seen this behavior exactly before and it may be a feature of the new 44xx OMAP or just the way Moto has implemented it.

Its worth noting that we have never done this before with a series of leaked test builds that are in update.zip format and have a variety of mix and matched signed components that are asserted in different ways in each file. So we are all finding out the variety of results that can occur.

Also, p3droid's Bionic is still stuck with the boot image from the .891 build that fortunately very few if any other users flashed. None of the leaked files provides a path from that build to any other.

Its a dead end...

That is why I think a full XML.zip containing all updated and fully signed images and radios will be required to fix all of the range of states where users are now stuck.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
Interesting. You tried to flash a different radio and it b0rked.

I tied to flash the base (Stock) FXZ over 5.7.893 and it b0rked.

I see now what you mean - I thought the leaked FXZ was full of signed components, but I'm now realizing that it is not so.

As for P3's BIONIC being hosed - is there a community drive to get him another? There was a member here that was selling his for around $150....
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sjflowerhorn:
Just remember people A few of us should remain on 5.893 and keep those servers fired up because you know exactly what well find next. And if 5.5.893 is the ota (been out for a while now) then who knows how soon we could see ics leak.

I myself will be checking daily.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] johnlgalt:
You'll find 5.7.893 and then 5.8.894. You won't see ICS for at least another month.

But it doesn't hurt to keep looking :p
[Motorola Droid Bionic] joshw0000:
This may be well known or may not. Bad ESN 4g phones DO work on the Verizon network. They cannot be activated at Verizon but they will work with existing sim cards. My wife has been using one for about a month. I just picked up a "sealed in box" new one off ebay for $220. It should be delivered tomorrow.

Ethical, not exactly. Awesome, fully functional phone for dirt cheap, yes.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Protocol 7:
While I appreciate all you guys have done, I just couldn't wait any longer. No offense to all of those who contributed, but I'm sick of Verizon's tactics. Sold my Bionic and went back to my OG Droid. Gonna wait for a new phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] coled91:
My bionic boots with the same error. I need to take this phone to verizon to sell it is there anyway i can just get this back to stock without the error message coming up on boot?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jblade:
Get the Galaxy Nexus, Awesome phone, bootloader unlocked and easily rootable.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dB Zac:
yup, love moto hardware, hate skinned android. I am jumping ship for the galaxy nexus. i almost left verizon for sprint because I like my girls nexus S so much more then my Bionic but the galaxy nexus has kept me on verizon. For all verizons short comings, got to give them props for not using CIQ!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Protocol 7:
Already did. Unlocked, rooted, and running a custom ROM.

Again, to all of those who helped on trying to unlock the Bionic, I thank you for your efforts.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bhp117:
so you're saying that a bad esn droid bionic can be activated on the verizon network?

so instead of going to the verizon store to activate it i can just activate on the verizion website with my verizon account on the activate or switch device option?

so i can use my current 4g lte sim card to activate it?

are there's going to be any bad draw backs?

sorry for all the questions

i currently have a rooted lg revolution and would like to switch to a dual core and see some droid bionics with bad esn for under $100.00 so i'm thinking about it

thank in advance for your help
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Jubei527:
yes, thats what he meant. i had a droid charge it use 4g sim card just like bionic. and when i got my bionic i just slide my sim card in and it works, didnt have to make a phone or go to the store.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bhp117:
Thanx for your reply

Do your bionic have a good or bad esn?

BLITZ Bulletproof ledded AWD SuperCharged GV + Nitro ;p
[Motorola Droid Bionic] joshw0000:
You CANNOT activate through Verizon if the phone is blacklisted. You can pop your sim in (if you have one) though. All works fine for me. :-)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bhp117:
Thanks for your reply

I'll try it anyways since I have a active 4g lte sim on my lg revolution

BLITZ Bulletproof ledded AWD SuperCharged GV + Nitro ;p
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bhp117:
Thanks for your reply

Did the 2nd bionic you bought work too?

I'll give it shot since I have an active 4g lte sim on my lg revolution

BLITZ Bulletproof ledded AWD SuperCharged GV + Nitro ;p
[Motorola Droid Bionic] joshw0000:
Yup. Both phones work fine for me and the Ms.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] waffleb051:
Has anyone tried to brute force attack the bootloader to get the password?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] projektorboy:
The problem with brute-force attacks are twofold.

(1) The level of encryption used means that even the most powerful consumer-grade computer would still take YEARS to crack the code that would unlock the bootloader of the phone.

(2) Once a phone is brute-forced, it would take an extremely long time to figure out the salting used to generated the encryption in the first place so that other phones could be unlocked too.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] waffleb051:
well it was a long shot....
[Motorola Droid Bionic] BDAZZG1:
GODDAMNIT MOTO! Just unlock the bastard already! It's mine, I paid for it, let me use it! If I break the damn thing I'll buy another...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] draexo:
Any movement on this front? I have read various things about filing complaints with the FCC for a locked 4G device.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] projektorboy:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders
[Motorola Droid Bionic] draexo:
Saw this, that is why I asked.

We need to get a class action lawsuit going.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rlewis312010:
Just to update; .904 was pulled via cheesecake. About 40 something mb. I have it but no install yet. Just broke on rootzwiki?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] twizzles:
Just got the bionic. Still a locked bootloader huh? :(
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rickatnight11:
Yep, but ICS just leaked. The modding community has been working hard, regardless of the locked bootloader, so you can expect more stable ICS roms in the near future, now that we have a real ICS kernel to work with.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rlewis312010:
I love flowers

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905, ics 2231, then 2233 now, root with razors edge tool, aokp and cm9 roms buggy, eclipse worked on. Not unlocked, no closer unless the uber developers are holding out, lol.

Edit again; ics 2233 is best os ive ever had on bionic. It is amazing, lol.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nobreak1970:
I love flowers
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lhkjohn:
Haha no crap! This is after he posted several posts non helpful to this thread. I hope he was kidding.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] crobs808:
After extensive testing I've found the AOKP ROM is probably the best so far of the 2233 ROMs (better than CM9 or original)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rlewis312010:
I am waiting to try a rom. Stock ics is great for me. Glad aokp working well for you:-)

Even under google and new manager we see no unlock:-( I was not trying to be mean to a previous poster but posting on a dead thread without looking around and reading is silly. More angry at moto and verizon. Good developers keep bionic interesting but imagine custom kernels!!!

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] twizzles:
There was no offence taken. I know how some people are on forums. So much info to take in when reading on a different phone. Most people like to help and occasionally get the rude or smartass comment/pm. No worries.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] VECTUS:
Cleaned up the last few posts of the derogatory statements and offensive names. This is the ONLY warning your going to get...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nullness:
Be angry with Verizon not Motorola, Verizon are the ones requiring the locked bootloader, Motorola can't do anything but comply or Verizon will start marketing Motorola's competitors phones. Remember it was the original droid that basically saved Motorola and put Android on the map and it happened because Verizon marketed the hell out of it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
Why is it better? I may have to give it a try.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nobreak1970:
Nice.:good:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Protocol 7:
You're*

Sorry, pet peeve.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] drknight01:
hi,can u help me

i have a bionic 2012 that mean original firmware is 5.9.902 how can i unlock bootloader!

please help me!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] brainwash1:
The bootloader on the bionic is locked, and is not unlockable.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Underwater Mike:
No offense, but suggest you pick one of the 37 related threads here on XDA and come up to speed. :silly:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] amageus:
But don't you like repeating the same thing in multiple threads? lol. There is also a search option on the top right corner of the forum. Most people don't seem to know how to use that.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] brainwash1:
Hey big news: i just heard the bionic has a locked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] smokedkill:
When you use the app, its not as easy to search. Also, you find many useless posts when searching for certain things and not find the thing your actually looking for. I've found better luck in searching Google than using the search on xda.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Semseddin:
Bump bump !

To those who're still intereseted in unlocking OMAP4 motorola bootloader, there're new files leaked and available for download. .Please take a look.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2399597

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46179997&postcount=35
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jjkoolaid:
Doesn't the bionic and Xoom same similarities, xooms boot loader is unlocked, is there a way to ba k track that and apply it to the bionic?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] moto32:
so what are the possibilities if we do get the bootloader unlocked? what does that open the way for?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
Isn't the atrix2 the same? And isn't its boot loader unlocked?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] DroidisLINUX:
If you sign up at the Motorola dev site for unlocking your boot loader then call the number, complain about the boot loader bricking your device, because you tried to down grade, then complain about wanting to get original web top working and its their fault the new ROM bricked your phone for updating you will be able to get a bionic unlock code its the same as an OEM_unlock with a 14 or 16 digit code with both numbers and letters, in fast boot mode you type the oem unlock then the code and you can flash any boot.img I did this a long time ago but I don't have the code anymore someone should get us the code and put it up here. They just want everyone to buy new phones.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] fxmech:
[MENTION=5285072]DroidisLINUX[/MENTION]

Can you provide a little proof? Say, a photo/video showing you are unlocked? If that isn't practical, can you cite any references of other people's experience?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] DroidisLINUX:
I have done it I would do it again if I had the time, all you need to do is sign up at motorola dev site, same site that has all the other motorola boot unlock codes, then once your a registered developer its a simple sign up, then call the same contact for the motorola developers site, you will be able to talk to someone, explain that you have a droid bionic, say that you have upgraded to 4.1.2, and used the fxz to downgrade, in process you were bricked , or your phone doesn't boot, tell them if you reflash the 4.1.2 fxz that your phone works again, so all you want is the bootloader unlock code, you then use fastboot to do a oem_unlock 16# after that to unlock the bootloader this will allow you to flash any boot.img, it doesnt keep you unlocked, you would have to use the 16 digit number everytime, but you can flash any boot afterwards, might be a 14# number and alphabit code I have done it, complained that they bricked my device and finaly got the code I cant prove it after the fact cause I don't have that number anymore
[Motorola Droid Bionic] chrisp6825:
A joke?

... Surely you're mocking. This sounds silly, but I don't mind being the silly one if this is true.

tapa'd on my moto x
[Motorola Droid Bionic] signupstuffid:
I'd also love to see more info on how this was done. I have a few Bionics that I'd love to try this on.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] J-Lindo:
I know it's a long shot, but I don't suppose anyone's had any luck with this in the past couple of years? :fingers-crossed:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ZVNexus:
Nope, no luck, its a 5-6 year old phone, and everyone who owns the phone has moved onto something better. Personally I am using a LG V10 atm, but the only reason I use this phone is for fun, (I like to try different ROMs) :D Plenty you can do without bootloader unlock, but im SURE theres SOMETHING out there that will let you, a tool perhaps.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] devanmc:
is anyone that profitable to just say ****-it we dont need to make money over something so small in product design?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
Stay on topic guys. I'd really like to keep this thread about finding unlockable SBF files.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] FcoT:
more people rooting

ahh deleted, rather stay on focus ,, sorry
[Motorola Droid Bionic] azwildfire:
I work for US Cellular in their development department (I just do IT - I don't touch the phones) but I do know that the majority of defective units returned are due to "development" going wrong. At US Cellular, it is talked about each quarter about how to grab the development community, but even with locked bootloaders, we still lose more money than we would make.

One thing they discuss is selling a phone unlocked at full price (no upgrade) and charging a replacement fee, but reality is - if you sell one unlocked phone, soon the whole community knows how to unlock it.

It isn’t leaving money on the table - statistically it is a wash when you compare cost of replacement vs. the additional customers - The whole drama and debacle of tethering is a perfect example of Motorola and VZW TRYING to get more profit and half the community is throwing a tantrum about it (and I assure you Moto and VZW exchanged funds to make that happen in the software and hardware)

Keep in mind too, VZW decides the final state of the boot loader - not Motorola.

VZW gets money from the contract, Moto only gets money from the hardware.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zodder:
Good luck guys. I'll keep an eye on this thread and donate what i can :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] :
the Droid 3 firmware available to me is in sbf format, still checking for bionic firmware, can't be much longer till we see it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jawonder:
keep at it i will be donating to this cause.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cellzealot:
That is interesting because we have only seen XML.zips of both the release 5.5.959 and the leaked update to 5.6.890, which we first got as an update.zip from the dev server for testers.

We then were able to get the full XML.zip version of that update, but haven't seen any SBF files.

The difference is somewhat immaterial at this point because the newer RSD Lite versions now can handle this format as well as SBF files and this provides many more options actually.

It will be confusing to users to manage them at first but will soon prove it's usefulness I'm sure and users will adapt.

If you have the D3 SBF file for either build and are able to release it, they are always valuable to have as well as any files for the Bionic, of course, thanks!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] :
Roger that.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cwalker0906:
Verizon does not determine if bootloader is locked...if that was the case all their phone would have locked bootloaders. No samsung phone has a locked bootloader on verizon...its only moto and htc who do this crap and as we know htc has changed their stance. Being a educated consumer i dont see why any one would by a moto phone....i wouldnt care if it had 85 gig cpu and a button that makes a hooker jump out the phone......hope you guys find a way past...goodluck