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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Se7enLC:
I just wanted to pop in with a comment about why keeping the 1% happy is good for Motorola.

True, 99% of the sales are made by people who don't know what a bootloader is and don't care if it's locked or not (completely fabricated statistic). But when those people are looking for a new phone, they aren't popping into a mall kiosk to ask the pushy salesman what they recommend - more and more frequently they are going to their phone-hacking friend and asking what they recommend. And since phone hacking is becoming more and more mainstream, almost everybody has one of those friends now. People trust us nerds to give them a good recommendation, and when we say "Don't get Motorola, go with Samsung or HTC", that eventually comes out in sales numbers.

Unconvinced? Look at Firefox. Internet Explorer came with Windows and worked well enough. Nerds like us installed Firefox on our parents and friends computers. When somebody asked our advice we said "go to this website, install Firefox". Pretty quickly, Firefox became a very popular browser even though most users don't know the difference and say "I dunno, so-and-so told me to install it so I did".

I hope for Motorola's sake the bootloader gets unlocked. I'm sure I'm not the only one that isn't going to upgrade until the right phone comes along. It would be the Bionic if the bootloader were unlocked - and if not, I'll be waiting for whatever Samsung releases next.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] everyday_geek:
Well Said

Well said my friend ...! I have been rooting and loading custom rom's on devices dating back to the HTC Touch Pro (Windows Mobile). Basically when i first found out it was possible - every device I have bought since then I have loaded custom ROM's .... I am a Bionic owner - I purchased it because it was the bad'est boy on the block (Verizon customer) I figured someone would figure out a way to open it up - while I happy with the device as is I seen SO much potential ....

I can tell you this if someone does not figure out how to unlock the boot loader (pity i am not smart enough) I will never again buy a device until I KNOW it is unlocked.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Enzopreme:
its not lookin good for the home team huh??havent seen many updates in this thread, that could be good, but it can also be very bad.... hope its not very bad... lol :o
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
Well, if you're willing to pitch in, I can write a more specific post on how to use the cheesecake method on the bionic. I have found that the beginning tutorial isn't so specific, and has some paths messed up. I've successfully got it going on mine. I hope some others are willing. I work long hours and I really can't do this every night, and when I do I only get maybe 2-3 servers. Either PM me or post a reply and I'll write something up.

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I've gotten a couple requests already. I'm going to start here tonight. Let me see what I can do
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
Please fill us in on the file paths. The ones I used were for another Motorola device.

Unfortunately, I have no Bionic to test with. I can check files for an unlockable bootloader, though. Also, Motorola tends to create one build per month and a half to two months. We might not see a new build for another month or so. The excitement originally was founded in the possibility of finding an 'earlier than stock' build that might have an unlockable B/L.

Having said all that, I'd love to resurrect this thread and really get to work on finding some new builds. If you have changes to the directions... post them or email them to me and I will add them to the thread. You will be a HUGE help.

Thanks guys! - Kenneth
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
Also-- one last thing. I can make a CWM flashable file for everyone to participate in the project once someone finds me the correct file paths.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Enzopreme:
although i have no clue what to really look for, id love to learn and im sure i can be of SOME assistance, whatever that may be.... if you can get a flashable file going that would enable more people to help it definitely wouldnt hurt and i think we'd probably see a lot more people willing to try.... lets unlock this son of a ***** boys!!! :cool:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
Hey Kenneth I posted another thread with easier instructions. It was long so.I didn't want it buried in this thread. I also have some ideas to toss around.. can you come on IRC late tonight like 11 est? Or ill pm you?

I think it may even be possible to build a script for this or an app, based on some new commands hashcode brought to my attention. I'm really trying to create convenience here so more people can search
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
Let me know about those commands. Can you test my CWM bionic-servers.zip that's attached to the OP? I want to know if it works.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] smilepak:
Out curiousity, what does unlock boot loader gives?

I thought we have the one click unlock already and able to load CMW and Recovery and also custom ROM.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] hitman_dreams:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but once we unlock the bootloader, we can get custom kernels. We won't have to use bootstrap anymore either. Info on why and what it is can be find in one of the stickies above.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Mean Bro Greene:
In a nutshell, an unlocked bootloader grants the ability to flash unsigned, custom kernels and developers to create very highly customized ROMs. It opens the door for AOSP ROMs as well, like CM7 and MIUI. Right now, it doesn't do much, but long term it opens the phone wide up for better, more customized development. Oh yeah, and we can get a true recovery instead of relying on the bootstra
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
Checked another file .zip today. There was no bootloader in the archive. Better luck next time!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jblade:
So basically, if I understand this correct, we are hoping that some dev that uploads a dev OTA update to the server will "accidentally" leave a boot loader unlocked?

Seems like after doing this two phones they would now stop this?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dubsx:
a hope and a prayer my friend...a hope and a prayer
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
It's not always an accident!

Motorola representatives posted the hint that led us to the first unlock. They wanted us to find it. Don't ask me why they would do that, but not unlock other devices. I have no clue.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rickatnight11:
Will the update only apply over the cell connection?

If the Bionic will update over WiFi, could we not use an IDS (or just some packet capture software on the router) to *sniff* the communication between the phone and the server(s)? Using that, we would be able to spoof update requests and download all the zips we wanted.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
nope itll go through wifi. I also gave some updated instructions in my other thread that will make things *much* faster and less painful. no data wiping or cache wiping. just rebooting and doing it
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rickatnight11:
Depending on the how/if the communication is encrypted, we could emulate/spoof the same requests on any computer without the need of the phone. That would be much faster and safer.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] 0mie:
Would be nice if a dev created a simple app to change the server and rebooted the device, then it would be much faster instead of having to do the same steps over and over...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] kennethpenn:
Update #4: Looks like a Motorola update should be arriving soon... fire up those server-checking engines and keep checking over the next few weeks! http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/30/official-droid-bionic-bug-list-fix-coming-in-november/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Versatile1:
So true....
[Motorola Droid Bionic] phydo:
It appears as if some of those fixes are in 5.5.891 that was found. I know p3 droid is on it but I won't flash it unless I can at least get root. Not being able to fxz scares me too
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rlewis312010:
It appears that this has gone nowhere. The only active thread (somewhat) is the cheesecake research thread. Even there, nothing. It is a game to Moto, they hold your interest, give false hope (think they don't know the server trick by now or leave it open to BEGIN WITH just to fool around?). Photon unlocked? Sure, lost 4G and don't care if it was fixed but "Unlocked" without 4G. Horrible network, not TRUE 4G anyway. Then ATT Atrix unlocked? Horrible network, and meaningless. Those are two crumbs to keep us hanging on for hope. I say we all avoid Moto unless they unlock them NOW and never release unlocked phones again. HTC moved out of the experiment of locking I believe or MET IN THE MIDDLE I guess. Samsung releases KERNEL SOURCES, lol and leave it unlocked I believe. MAYBE it is national security? They need to keep the hardware locked as to avoid people finding the nice hardware bugs and MAYBE controlling them? Random thought there.

Anyway, done with Moto, waited around, hoped, but this is an f-ing joke. Stock/deodexed almost always wins out over what devs CAN DO anyway. Like with battery life and some devs I wonder if they are just cooking up bugs themselves. Done with the rant, and likely done with Moto for good.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dch921:
Your right I think you should just give up
[Motorola Droid Bionic] wanderfowl:
... and around two hours after you posted this, Motorola released source code for the Bionic. It's not a bootloader unlock, to be sure, but it's a sign that we're not "going nowhere".

I understand your frustration with the bootloader, but posts like yours above are just a downer and needless hand-wringing for those of us loving the Bionic, ROM development, and the community here. Don't give up on us yet! (and if you do, there's no need to post about it :))
[Motorola Droid Bionic] caffeineighted:
Totally agree here. It's not like this forum is for the every-guy who uses his Bionic stock out-of-box style. It's a forum devoted to developers and the work they do for Christ Snakes.

Frustration is totally understandable, but there are other great forums out there like AC and DL that cater to a different but still similar crowd.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] idefiler6:
x1,000,000 10char
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ddggttff3:
I here love my bionic, and have no plans on leaving. Sure the RAZR has a .2ghz faster CPU per core (more battery) and a better screen (more battery again compared to pentile...) but the bionic not only seems to be a solid built phone, but if the community stays loyal, it has the chance of being a modding beast! I am just waiting for cyanogenmod personally. Stock OS sucks, and a AOSP non blurr would make my life, and this phone. Why im jelous of my friends motorola triumph.... so stock, so clean, so fast.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] zachdroid:
Droidth3ory has a pretty close to aosp

Rom built called d3blurr3d. You might enjoy. Have you seen it?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] znel52:
+1

I am running d3blurr3d on my phone with launcher pro and wow is this thing FAST! I thought stock was fast but this is way better. Very stable to I haven't noticed one thing wrong with mine.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] firefighterguy:
Oh. Ok. Hmm.. How does one explain HTC? Nexus Prime? LG? Xperia? All of which are unlocked bootloaders. And all of which are on VZW. Moto could unlock it. They are hiding behide the facade of "VZW won't let them."

Hopefully Google's aquisition is approved and finalized so Google can punch Moto in the pee-pee and unlock the bootloader. At least removing bloat. Even if they do the later, that will make a world of difference for a lot of people. True, not as many as unlocking the damn bootloader alltogether. But still...

Just my $.02. But we all know it's really less than $.01 here. Lmao!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] HaYNigloo:
+1

From my BIONIC COMMANDO using XDA App
[Motorola Droid Bionic] idefiler6:
I don't know how much say google will have with the issue. Who knows? I'm not expecting miracles out of the deal.

The thing about VZ requiring it has to be bull****, though. For reasons cited earlier, bootloaders on Samsung and HTC are unlocked or unlockable from release.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stoffelck:
I dont know. So I am kust asking. What phone has VZW released since the Bionic. Was that phone unlocked?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] yutzyscott:
Im running beta4 v6 right now of his deblurred. I have had no issues yet and its blazing fast even with "spb shell 3d"

The razr and nexus are coming next month. Nexus is a no brainer but, I am unsure as to bootloader status on the razr.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stoffelck:
+ 10 char meh
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mikeymop:
moto comfirmed it locked on Twitter
[Motorola Droid Bionic] azwildfire:
Last I checked, the HTC devices were unlocked via ninja black magic i.e. flashing un-official engineering bootloaders. The LG2 was also unlocked using un-official methods. The Nexus Prime? Last I checked it wasnt released to the public yet so rumors don't count.

The atrix was unlocked using unofficial methods as well. I would like one example of a supported unlocked device that was not a Nexus. key word is supported.

Anyway, if an unlocked bootloader is so important, why not just buy one of those devices? The bootloader argument to me, is similiar to yelling at Chevy for not releasing a Colbalt with a V8 just because we want it! all the same arguments apply, but in the end, the manufacturer can do whatever they want, and the consumer can either buy it or not.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] RoboJoe:
Your analogy fails because I can install whatever the hell I want in my car after I buy it.

Try that with a phone.

Further, if Chevy could push out a piece of software that gives all their cars a V8, but they refuse to, and refuse to even say why, you'd be pretty pissed at them, not because they aren't in their power to do so, but because they're stupid for not making their product more valuable at zero extra cost for them.

Let's get back on topic now, please? :-)

Edit: it appears we are sort of on topic, I forgot what thread I was in. Sorry!

Swyped from my Droid Bionic, unless I was in a landscape, in which case I Swiftkeyed the hell out of it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] smalltownbird:
HTC phones on sprint have recently been unlocked with the warning that it voids the warranty.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] djsiva:
It's confirmed locked for VZW in the US, but it appears as if it's unlockable/relockable for the EU version.
[HTC Sensation] ProximaC:
Just using my phone, not doing anything out of the ordinary, and the screen flickered and went really dark. The bottom 50% is completely black, and the top 50% is really dark, like looking through ray-bans dark.

I've pulled the battery twice and nothing.

Unless anyone's got any ideas it looks like I'm going to be replacing this thing already. It feels like a hardware problem to me.

I'm not rooted. Stock Sense 2.3.4
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romdroid.:
What are your thoughts? Is it possible? I think the hardware is capable of handling ICS, and I would love to have GPU-acceleration. I knows in some unofficial way there will be ICS(CM7 for example) but if Samsung decides to release it official then it show that they still care.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiderrr:
I think yes,we will be getting ICS.But we will have to wait few months after google offcially releases ICS
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rschenck:
Considering the sgs2 is already out and quite successful, I personally doubt the sgs1 will get ICS from Samsung.

Of course getting ICS ROMs from XDA devs is another thing completely, and is pretty well certain.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IREWolfman:
Maybe thats what they are working on and why we have nothing new since JVR?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] $omator:
from what ive know samsung was undecided if sgs1 hardware is enought for ics just few months ago,

but at the same time if it would be ok they wanted ics on sgs1

we saw screenies from first alfa compiles for nexuss that is basicly sgs1 with nfc and flashlight so i hope that it is only a matter of time that they will start working (or already started) on a sgs1 version

will be the same as with ginger, first hopefully very early leak (as with jv1)

then months of developing with leaks here and there to forums to iron bugs in mass testing

and after a half of year first pushes (so probaby first leak ~january and around may july first official ones)

sure the process will go faster fo new nexusprime and sgs2 as those are the main devices now

but where to iron most bugs like on a well known device (i hope) hhe
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wolfteam20:
I think no u.u maybe the galaxy s2

From my Galaxy S
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
Google stated on the IO, that devices capable running Gingerbread is also capable running ICS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deanbilly:
OK, I'll ask ..... what is ICS?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iNeri:
Ice Cream Sandwitch

Enviado desde mi GT-I9000 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] f3n0m3no:
sony ericsson said that every xperia from 2011 will get ics. the arc is weaker than galaxy s,so it should run perfectly on our sgs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] $omator:
sony ics? nono :)

[Updated] Sony Ericsson Promises 2011 XPERIA Line Will Get Ice Cream Sandwich, We Try To Act Skeptical

Sony Ericsson: No Decision Has Been Made To Bring Ice Cream Sandwich To Xperia Devices
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romdroid.:
I personally dont think Sony Ericsson will abandon Xperia Arc, Neo etc, I think they'll get ICS and I really hope Samsung also release it for SGS, I think the hardware can manage it perfectly
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romdroid.:
Hmm 2.3.4 is released for SGS2, i still have not recived official 2.3.4 here in sweden..very odd
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disclaimernotice:
The thing is, even if our galaxy s does get ics, it might not work flawlessly. On eclair, the galaxy s had around 200Mb of RAM on boot, while on froyo it had around 160Mb or RAM. However, on gringerbread, it only has about 120-140Mb of RAM upon boot, and after just a day of usage, it can drop up to 80-90Mb, causing the phone to operate rather slowly, something which did not happen when I was on froyo. So, my fear is that the RAM requirements of the ics might be a tad too high for the galaxy s to handle for long term usage.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoulTrain88:
I agree with rschenk. I think hardware is not a problem about Galaxy S but when I saw how long we have been waiting for gingerbread... Maybe official release ICS for Galaxy S will be a year after google release the ICS SDK.

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Not true, we have JVS based on 2.3.5
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romdroid.:
There is always a solution. Look what they did with HTC Desire to get gingerbread, they removed some integrated programs to free up ram, same thing could be done with SGS
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inschi:
As already said they could just clean some useless stock apps (there are enough :p) and then we'll have no problem with RAM.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amwebby:
Looks like we will get it.

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...xus-one-and-most-gingerbread-phones-20111019/
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] $omator:
of course we will

that was obvious as soon as the leaked ICS video emerged running very well on Nexus S preceded with screenshots of system settings/system info also from Nexus S - everything that runs there runs easily on SGS1 - it was rumored that it will run on almost every device capable running GB - it just got confirmed

after Galaxy Nexus it will be first (at least officialy) SGS2 / Nexus S / Galaxy Note probably and then Nexus One and SGS1

there will be no official ICS prior to Galaxy Nexus Premiere

but i belive in leaks :) so we might get some early build leaks

but that will be best guarded scret of Samsung/Google till then =)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] burakgon:
As first:

We will use icecream and jellybean and later on our device. %100.

Cyanogenmod?

Samsung will release Ice Cream for our devices too.. It's %100 and I think we will get ice cream earlier than SGS2! Look how we get 2.3.5 earlier. That's not %100. But that's; We will use a few more updates on our devices.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] $omator:
actualy sgs2 got some wierd leaked 2.3.5 kg3 way earlier
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyjay:
I hope so....
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amwebby:
I've been wondering if Samsung will drop Touchwiz for ICS. Given Apple's patent trolling and the incorporation of Touchwiz features in ICS it would make sense and align with Google's undertaking to upgrade devices as quickly as possible.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] f3n0m3no:
Latest gs2 upgrade changed the drawer layout from 5 x 4 to 5x3 so that it doesnt look like an i****.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amwebby:
I always use list view in the app drawer anyway. I've never liked the page view layout.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yoguslayer:
They could also release Touchwiz as a downloadable app from Samsung Apps, though I don't see the point of adding Tw to an already good and functional launcher.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dopedangel:
I don't think we would have gotten it if it was not for Apple and the lawsuits because of that Samsung has to update many of devices to work around Apple patents I think that would result releasing ICS for SGS. But don't expect to get it very quickly as their priority would be to update SGS2 and the other recently released devices before they come to SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yoguslayer:
Yup, and as I once read in some blog around the net, "if your phone was very popular and runs Gingerbread these days, you have a BIG chance of getting the update". So yeah, I really hope to get an official ICS release in my GT I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cartenz:
I hope there will be ICS official :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hk2:
If nexus s is getting update than why no galaxy s? They have same hardware
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rutjan:
Samy, samy, just open your eyes and look at all the PERFECTLY SMOOTH ICS ROMs that were developped by underground wizz! Why won't you quit your lame touchwiz?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] degids:
The official ics ROM for SGS2 is being ported to SGS. Maybe that is the ROM for you. It includes the Touchwiz.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sammyservices:
WoW ! Any ETAs guys ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] degids:
Just readup in this [ROM][PORT][4.0.3 - XXLPH] Galaxy S II's ICS Firmware [Pre-Alpha v3][04-3-12] thread
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MR.GALAXY!:
Samsung said that Samsung galaxy s GT-i9000 won't have ice cream sandwish :(
[Xoom General] revomid:
Does the native player of Xoom also plays 1080p video files

ie. mp4, avi, wmv, etc.

If not, does other players like vplayer, mobo could make this possible?

I doubt as Motorola Web and Wikipedia say the Xoom can play

"Up to 720p video" but sure it's not quite enough as long as HDMI it to a 32" TV.

Therefore is it possible for Xoom playing 1080p video smoothly?

Thank You. And I'm from Hong Kong (although there's nothing to do with the question:) )
[Xoom General] rohit3192:
it can play 1080p but video stutter.

true. 1080p will trouble as much to bill clinton.
[Xoom General] timrock:
you can convert a 1080p mkv to mp4 format and it will play with no issues. or converting, i suggest DVDCatalyst.