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[HTC Sensation] zimphishmonger:
Show, I respectfully disagree. Sense 3.0 is running a lot smoother and more responsive than any sense 35, although 3.5 is making a lot of headway. I've been switching back and forth and continue to feel sense 3.0 is def more solid, stable and "daily driver" material. I keep up on the newest builds and kernels but the 3.5 builds / hacked kernels aren't ideal at the moment.

With that being said, I (and I'm sure others) would really appreciate it if you would even consider porting some of gpu sleep features / power management features from v1. X back down to v9x (maybe update to v93 final for sense 3).

Thanks for considering
[HTC Sensation] uelue11:
why should show still support something old ...
[HTC Sensation] miniterror:
As he mentioned alot of people still prefer sense 3.0.

I for example really like show his kernels but as a coredroid member will not see sense 3.5 in the near future as it cant be skinned fully.

Does that mean i should stop liking show his kernels.

I understand he is a busy man and i dint demand anything but i thibk it would be verry appriciated if he made his new tweaks to sense 3.0 to get a even harder rocking kernel:)
[HTC Sensation] zimphishmonger:
Cause sense 3.0 isn't old at all. The amaze and inspire were just released with sense 3,and all sense 3.5 builds are from a leaked heavy debugging build. Sense 3.5 is isn't even new, it's still in beta essentially (There are no official builds for it yet ). Furthermore, we don't have source for 3.5 (2.3.5), reinforcing my point that sense 3 is the current version of sense. Even further, it's shown that sense 3 is mainstream atm, cause we have to use all these hacky libs to get our 234 kernels working on sense 35,when we can build official, optimized kernels from working source and original libs for sense 3.0 (2.3.4).

I just feel it wouldn't hurt releasing one final build for sense 3 as there had been sine very nice improvements in gpu sleep and a reduction in heat (when compared to v91).

Not Complaining, just sharing an opinion that I think is more common than most think. Sense 35 doesn't really exist outside these forums, so sense 3 is this the newest official sense, hence worth supporting IMO.

Thanks for reading and ur consideration.
[HTC Sensation] immunityx:
I agree sense 3.5 is not optimized at all and a lot slower and problematic then 3.0....maybe with sense 3.5 get a final stable ruu it be good to update too.

Ps: I'm on ARHD 3.6.3(3.0 XE based) + bricked 1.4 and things are running stable here. When I was on stock tmobile build I had the black screen wake issue but that seems to be resolved in the XE roms?
[HTC Sensation] Gunkk:
I used .91 for a month and it performed just fine w/ battery and graphics -- he did a great job and it is flawless. I would rather Show spend time making 1.4/3.5 Better than continue living in the past.

My $0.02

Sent from my 1.4 Bricked Oct-22 Energy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Bottom line, if the Sense 3.0 fans put up the $$$ they might convince someone to work with them.

Personally, I've donated in the past and my next donation will be for continued 3.5 development.

As the saying goes...talk is cheap :D .

3.0 fans should raise a bounty and see if an Kernel developer would be willing to accept. Cause as it stands now, 3.0 is in the cold.
[HTC Sensation] Lionhardt:
Has anyone tried v1.4 on pyramid3d?

And I don't know if I'd donate for an update, I mean .91 is awesome. I've tested a lot and the best is pyramid3d 8.0 with .91.

Some of the tweaks might be able to be applied to .91 without much work though. Especially power management related.
[HTC Sensation] 02CWRX:
I didn't mean to imply that it was a support thread, I was asking what the purpose was more than anything. I was just trying to find clarification if my thinking on how it worked was correct (IE - I don't actually need it). It sounds like the scripts to be flashed take the place of any controller installed, and the controllers just make it easier to make "on the fly" adjustments - assuming you would want to. I wasnt sure if was simply a controller, or if it was actually needed to make something work.

Anyway, thanks for the work on this, my phone feels much quicker than before. As long as the battery life is better than my last kernel, I think I have a winner with yours.

Thank you for answering. This makes sense. So basically you only need to use flashed files if you have no controller and your performance is poor at the OC speeds, otherwise you could just turn it down via controller of your choice.

Thank you. I was confused why it was showing 192000 (and partially still am because of some of what I've read). I also am not sure what the "bypass" button is for since it just takes you to another settings page, but I will be researching it later.

Well, I don't really want to make changes per say. I would be happy with the kernel running out of the box the way it is, I think - just waiting to see how battery life is compared to others. I don't do much gaming or anything else, I just liked having the quicker more snappy system, which this kernel seems to provide all by itself without any help of OC programs.

Sent from my HTC Sensation in UR-Quan subspace.

Were these directed at me? I didn't think simple questions could be such a source of upset. I didn't see anything on the first page that had much to do with any of my questions other than "use setcpu or system tuner to overclock". I'm not trying to overclock, I was trying to understand 1) what the point of the program I have is if needed, and 2) whether or not I even need the program which was loaded with my ROM to begin with (apparently I don't).

~T.J.
[HTC Sensation] zimphishmonger:
It is a GREAT kernel, but show has added some power management settings for the GPU that we might benefit from, a v.92 does run fairly hot compared to other kernels. Im not saying its bad at all, Im just asking for a few additional commits to make it "Final" and as good as can be, if work wont be continued on it.

THIS

is a horrible mentality spreading at XDA, and I hope it doesn't spread further. DONATION are exactly that, donations. They are not, and should not motivate a developer to work on one thing or another, it should be given without ANY consideration of receiving anything in return. What you are talking about is a payment, and if you are making a payment, you EXPECT something in return: a product, an app, a feature, something in exchange for that payment. Either decide that you are donating and stick with it (dont expect or assume ANYTHING will be given in return) or call it what it is, a payment, and demand your "product". Convincing people to form a bounty is to continue work on a Sense 3.0 kernel is pretty low, I encourage developers with my positive feedback, thanks and support (and even the occasional donation when I feel someone has gone out of their way......I never expect anything in return). This disgusting mentality is destroying open source development.......:(
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Writing this from my phone, so I can't answer everyone right now.

Just wanted to clarify sth:

Bricked runs out of the box on 3.5. There is no need for hacked libs to make it work. The only thing we need hacked libs for is the camera.

Regarding sense: I am using 3.5 as a daily driver. I have never experienced slow performance or unstable behavior. (ofc with bricked) in my opinion sense 3.5 is stable and running good.

I may be convinced to port some changes to sense 3. But this will have to wait until I got my recent todos rdy, because this is not an urgent need for myself.
[HTC Sensation] zimphishmonger:
Thats all I ask, whenever you have some time. Thanks show! :)
[HTC Sensation] immunityx:
Just a heads up showp, 1.4 is running solid on arhd 3.6.3 haven't experience no wake black screens...so I think the video drivers are compatible with your kernal in the XE rom? Remember when I kept getting those black screens on the stock tmobile rom but not on arhd xe rom..just something to note ;)
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Spreading. Ha.

It's been the way of things for years. When Touch Pro owners wanted a new custom dialer, the only way we got it was via bounty. (No Dev was going to do the needed code work without any tangible incentive and it was not anything anybody wanted to do as a fun sort of hobby project.) And then, after it was fulfilled, people were upset the thing didn't do landscape mode :D .

Also if you didn't notice, most projects go EOL when the donations dry up.

Like it or not, money talks and it always will. Because you can't eat or drink good intentions.

You've already been informed where the Developer stands. Sorry you dislike my suggestion for getting what you want, but it works. Show-p may not do it for a bounty, but you can be certain somebody would. And historically here at XDA, that's how projects that developers refuse have been done.

If Show-p does dual 3.0 and 3.5 development, I'd still give the next donation I intend to give him. He's already made it clear he's doing 3.5 development. We give for what we like. I like the 3.5 work, so that's why I give.

All cash talk aside. I feel he should continue with 3.5, instead of splitting his time.
[HTC Sensation] Lionhardt:
How much is the standard donation? Boss kernel btw.
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Whatever you can afford. There is no standard.

If you can only afford 1 Euro/Dollar, I am thankful for that. If you can afford to donate 1 million bucks, hell I will hire ~50 guys, we will deliver you the ****ing best kernel out there and I would still be thankful :D

It's not the money it comes down to, it is the thought behind it.

Usually Donations move in the 5-15 Dollar Range, but that is no demand from me, it's just a fact ;)

So donate whatever is comfortable for you, or donate nothing at all. As long as you like and honor my work, it's payment enough ;)
[HTC Sensation] mudhi:
Personally, 0.91 is enough for me, and believe it or not, many Chinese are still using your 0.4 kernel. :D

I can wait until the htc's GB2.3.5 source is out. I already mailed a friend of mine which had a friend working in htc, just maybe... :D
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
0.4???

ROFL???

That thing is sooo old. And has bugged 3D :D (try playing cordy on it :P)

I would suggest that you kick them in their ass so they update! At least 0.91!
[HTC Sensation] jmcdonald58:
Thanks

#7J180363SA937213R little something for ya running your kernels on all my builds great work
[HTC Sensation] Gtj94:
@show

Is it possible to implement audio boosts in this kernel? (10% through headphones and 20% through the external)

:)

Also I'm having extra heavy batt drain on my own sense 3.5 tom with the 1.4 kernel. (45% in 3 hours) I've done a full charge cycle and recalibrated along with a -50 undervolt and stock clock. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance guys :)
[HTC Sensation] ziggy1001:
You need to work out what is using all the power, nobody can do that for you
[HTC Sensation] Gunkk:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18304549&postcount=1087

Sent from my Bricked Energy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Gtj94:
Thanks bud :) but I've had that running for a bit now before id posted :P
[HTC Sensation] V6-Maniac:
Hey Show,

Finally got my Paypal up and running.

So here you are:

6P778723TD411000K
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
First of all they feared the CPU could suck the battery dry @ 1,5. That's why the 2nd edition sensation has a better battery.

And 2nd ofc the release thingie.
[HTC Sensation] EddyOS:
I find it amazing that with a bit of work the CPU can run at its native speed and still have good battery life. HTC seriously need to look at their devs and wonder what they're paying them for. But as I've already said, it must be the money
[HTC Sensation] Twister988:
And of course the stress...

HTC needs to release Devices constantly.

And the Software has to fit to the hardware.

More hardware - more generic and no device specific programming i think...
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Nah, its all the same with HTC android devices, so Devs should know what they are doing. Thing is, they do do the best they can, they don't have the luxury of chucking test kernel to customers to get it tested, like we do here. So they have to release stable ,reasonably fast and ok on a battery sw. So once they get it rightish its out. Can't blame Devs on that, they have deadlines. Mind you, I still fail to comprehend how they could have released sw with such a major flaw as buggered 3d support, someone cocked up big time. So really, HTC Devs are quite good IMHO, but there is that bloody market strategy being pushed upon them.

Show, scrolling is very smooth today, since I charged it overnight, so it could be down to lowish voltage when battery charge is lower.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
And to correct common mistake. CPU is actually designed to be between 1.2-1.5 ghz, so anywhere in between is native frequency. I'm actually very surprised they used such a powerful CPU in the smartphone, there is absolutely no need for that. Smoothness can be achieved with better sw optimization. Looks like manufacturers are pushed by competition to bring massive specs out. There are no programs available to utilize all the hardware IMHO. You could run win7 on these specs.
[HTC Sensation] Twister988:
+1 for this...

Made me smile :D
[HTC Sensation] balto:
Same here but on both .4 and .5
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
What about other versions?
[HTC Sensation] EddyOS:
No issues with scrolling in the XDA app for me using 0.5
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Just checking, no lag. ;)
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
It only happens when I flick fast. If I keep my finger on and just move it up and down at a steady speed its ok. It's not really a bug, only noticed cause never experienced it with v.2 and was less noticeable with v.4
[HTC Sensation] balto:
I take that back. Just flagged faux

latest to see if it the lag is there. It is worse. Just reflashed to this kernel it is do much better. Sorry I doubted you :) keep up the amazing work.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1261911

Sensation XE Rom. Might want to have a look at it ;)
[HTC Sensation] schidddy:
Hey show p

Coming to you because maybe u have got a ear for my concern. I told other rom developers about this issue but i never got an complete answer or i just got ignored...

Lets look at just the sense ui, exactly the scrolling effect... Truely, this feels on sense home ui just sometimes as its rendered at about 15fps or even less, and sometimes i gets rendered at higher fps again, BUT even on this faster moments, it NEVER feels like the ui example of an iphone (dude i hate these phones too and most likely apple but what they always have been doing great is the ui rendering speed.) Scrolling speed is really bad i cannot understand why nobody is complaining about this and i also cannot believe that i am the only one with thisbproblem, and what i dont get also is why a 1.5ghz dual core phone with a highspeed adrejo 220 gpu is not able to make the ui run at lets say 50fps so its fluid for our eyes. I dont get why all rom developers always right smoooooth and superfluid in there titles, as for me this is just not fluid... And i tried alot of roms now and its mostly everywhere the same... Only one rom (and only this one) i had in past that WAS super fluid but now its is getting slow as usual again, and it was baads insertcoin v1.4 with inofficial 1.45 android 2.3.4ruu

Can you give me an answer on why this is not possible on sense phones and maybe could you search about a possible solution on this? I dont know much about android development but what i can say: playing death space on android with superb grahpics with super fast rendering performance and sense ui is not able to keep it that fluid, so there must be somethingbin the bush... Or what do u think about this and dont u experience this too? Hope i get positiv resonance on this from u :)
[HTC Sensation] LittleH79:
At least I'm not the only one :(

Only thing I can do to get some kind of fluidness is to select performance governor.

When on demand it is one stuttering piece of..... (and I mean my device with that off course :))
[HTC Sensation] schidddy:
For me it doesnt make it faster if i select the performance governour, it feels on all governours the same :(
[HTC Sensation] LittleH79:
Well, some kind of fluidness with performance selected. Not truly fluid at all...

We must be doing something seriously wrong :(

I tried it all, flashing stock RUU first, wipes, super wipes, format sd cards, you name it..
[HTC Sensation] 3c:
Not sure what you guys are doing wrong, but it would seem many here are getting very fluid results on Sense...

Maybe you could then try the RCMix Bliss ROM based on Sense 3.5 which is highly optimized for low-performance phone, so then you should get something flying!

Personally I'm very happy with the fluidness of Sense 3.0 so far... Even on stock it was good!

Maybe you're installing some very badly behaving apps, which consumes a lot of CPU? Hence you probably get very poor battery run-time?

Just some ideas if it can help you find a solution.

EDIT: Another idea: are you using a live wallpaper? Those can be CPU consuming and make the home screen very slow... I often use the weather live wallpaper and it's still ok, though it consumes much more battery so I don't usually keep it.
[HTC Sensation] LittleH79:
I'm totally lost.

Never use any live wallpaper..

Can't remember anymore what different ways of flashing I've tried:

- Flash RUU first, then wipe.

- Just full wipe

- Some super wipe zip

- Tried leaving device alone for at least 30 mins after first and second boot

Every time the result is the same..

Big time stuttering when unlocking device.

At that's right after second boot, absolutely no things changed and no app installed, even no account setup yet.

This afternoon started completely from scratch again and when booted custom rom for the second time I could not get any fluidness just by turning screen of, on and unlock it (again, no accounts config, apps install or something).

Really lost here :(
[HTC Sensation] bungfritz:
With everyone who has lag problems, are you using set CPU or an equivalent program ?

I've found set CPU screws up the on demand settings, and as a result, I got a very stuttery user interface. Knowing that, I've uninstalled the program and let the kernal do its job and the phone is fast and smooth again.
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
I would also like to have audio boost for phones speaker its just too quiet..

tho personaly dont need headphones boost as i use Dr dre beats headphones on my SensationXe that are so loud you need to reduce volumen...:)
[HTC Sensation] amity2kare:
Hey Show, Great kernel as always. Currently using 3.3.5 with 1.4 and cam fix for 1.4. Runs like a charm. Just one question though...since this kernel supports call recording, any recommended app you would like to specify? There are so many out there so would appreciate a compatibility list if you've tested any of them with your kernel already.
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
Running InsertCoin ROM with 1.4 and 1.4 amaze camera fix, but when I take a photo, 9 times out of 10, the phone freezes and I have to pull the battery.
[HTC Sensation] mexxxico:
Wipe cache, dalvic-cache and then reinstall camera.apk (stock or amaze), camera_fix.zip and kernel 1.4.

For me, everything works perfectly except that the sense 3.5 is smooth but rather sluggish...
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
Tried that....still locks up when I press the back button to exit the camera app :mad:
[HTC Sensation] JayVee:
Mine locked up only the very first time I pressed the back button. After that it works fine...
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
Well, I tried clearing the camera data and it seems to be ok now...weird as it was a clean install.
[HTC Sensation] broncogr:
Cleaned the thread a bit from offtopic...

Please help the developer by keeping posts on the subject.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Thank you very much!

Very much appreciated!

The msm 8x60 does not use the kernel for audio calibration anymore. It is done in the libs, which will calibrate the audio with some values in the kernel. The problem is: I know the place where these values are, but it is verrrry messy. No comments or sth, just hex values for 1k lines. Since I have no idea for what they are apart from volume, I will not touch them at all. (there is also no documentation for that =/)

Ehhhh... No idea :D I don't use that function, only included it because there was a very high demand for it.

Thanks! ;)
[HTC Sensation] ziggy1001:
Callrecorder by skvalex paid app is working fine he used to post trial apk's in the Desire forum if you want to try before buying

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18417331&postcount=711
[HTC Sensation] korand:
Strange thing... On bricked kernel my sensation powering off at 3% without any notifications. Just like battery fully discharged but controller thinks it's 3%. Tried calibrate, wipe battery stats and etc... On stock kernel all is ok - when discharged to 1% - message "Shutting down" apperars and device powering off.

Question - can it be kernel realted? Because this happened on different roms (1.73, 2.08) and different versions of Bricked kernel (1.2, 1.4). After flashing stock kernel all is ok.

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Laynee1:
I have flashed Bricked kernel with Ic 3.3.7 rom, and i flashed Amaze camera v7.. I flashed camfix from first post.

And i still go freezes in smartshot mode.. not burst ( i know it is not working ).. smartshot..

Any one ?

Thanks in advanced
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Answered you already in the Amaze Cam Mod thread.

But read through this thread some and you'll see all the answers.
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
it can, and maybe it is.

But this did never happen to me tbh.

My device powers off @ 1%.

If this is a deal breaker for you, use the stock kernel ;)

As always: No logs = No issue.
[HTC Sensation] zydus:
Deep-Idle Mode (significant increase in battery life)

The battery life with the screen off is already great with this kernel. I just saw this in the Nexus S forums. I was wondering if the Qualcomm SOC supports this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297535
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Bricked does something similar. But not that efficient (I would guess I reach ~60% of the possible savings) because of some HTC ****ery with the power management. I am currently porting back the linux kernel 3.1 during that I am sorting all those htc hacks out and replacing them with something sane, or throwing them out for good. So in the future we might increase our savings even more without having to look at the 100 holes HTC picked into the power management =/
[HTC Sensation] korand:
show-p1984, I like your kernel and want to do it better and without issues :) Next time I will do the logs with this battery problem.
[HTC Sensation] miniterror:
Lol i have the same,

I thought it whas because i use anker batt.

Show what log do you want thats causing this?

Im at 17% so not that far away from that point to get logs
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
The usual kmsg + logcat if possible.

You should always try to add as much information as possible.
[HTC Sensation] miniterror:
Ok ill try to get the last-kmsg and a running logcat when it actually turns off.

Not sure iff il get them tonight though as im working and dont have a comp near me so i hope my last 15% will last till im close to a comp:p

edit: just got home and my batt whas dead:(

ill try to get it next time
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
+1

the same for me ... from time to time when i press back arrow to exit camera it freezes, and i have to pull out the battery .... i wipe date and dalvick, install bricked 1.4 and camfix but i still have freezes from time to time when i want to exit amaze camera. :(
[HTC Sensation] q9650:
Try to delete the Cache of the camera app under Settings... fixed this for me :)
[HTC Sensation] Step69:
After flashing Bricked 1.4 there is no connection to the network.

ROM Energy™ 22/10, radio 10.58.9035.

What could be wrong?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
All fine here with the same combination. Did you check your APN settings?