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[HTC Sensation] mzhmiah:
I have no idea how to get the logs. Plus I already reverted to 1.4r1. If you can tell me how to get the logs, I could reinstall 1.45 and see if I can duplicate the issues.
[HTC Sensation] lightninbug:
been using 1.45 all day on 3.0 sense sensay...NO PROBLEMS AT ALL :D:D:D
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
It's one f*ck*ng page back -.-
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
having major reboot issues with kernel can someone read the crash log plz and thanls
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
That's a logcat. Not a kmsg.

BTW: I would strongly suggest to remove that attachment, there are a few contacts + numbers visible.

(Doug, Jojo, Lauren, etc)
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
oh ok but right now my phone wont stay on long enough for me to download or run any program or anything like that. ill keep at it though
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
guys...

second time now. One page back!
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Hey!

v 1.45 is very fast at Antutu, faster than 0.91 :)

Hopping Antutu (now said to be even ready for Quad-core compatibility...!) is more realistic than other benchmarks, here it is

I wish I had a class10 SD card to improve it, mine is just class4 (32Gb), so I miss some extra points here ^^

CPU integrer is really big.

Running at 1.78 Ghz, Antutu says I run at 1.89 ghz, strange...... at that speed, my Sensation would surely reboot
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Wait for my new test :P

Btw: @ 1728Mhz?
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
@1782mhz

Definitly waiting for your new test!

(and I realize in 1.45 test, GPU is not at 320mhz if I'm right, so wohhh more is to come! Niiiiice !)
[HTC Sensation] mat9v:
Here are my Antutu benchmarks.

The first one is a default @ 1728Mhz and the second is the same but with v-sync disabled in Android (along with 60fps system limit).

To do that add the following line to build.prop file: debug.gr.swapinterval=0

Warning: It may result in some tearing and visual artifacts - test it yourself in your favorite apps.
[HTC Sensation] LKW-Hermes:
I got a problem if I flash the test v.1.45 it always show v1.4 in my sensation
[HTC Sensation] V6-Maniac:
Thats correct.

Look at the numbers after the #.

(Swyped from my Sense-o-Maniac - Sense 3.5 loaded HTC Sensation)
[HTC Sensation] LKW-Hermes:
Ok it shows #427 everything is ok . Runs smith but 1 freeze at all with the camera
[HTC Sensation] immunityx:
Cant wait to see whats in store with the next test
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Among other major things:

I have increased floating point operations by ~20%.

One problem: Parts of this asm code is conflicting with the THUMB extensions. So it's very unstable atm. ;)

It's probably the same HTC did in their new 2.3.5 kernel, if you look in Antutu Benchmarks @ the floating point values, the 2.3.5 kernel is way better than 2.3.4.

However I need to stabilize it first. Currently it crashes @ 6/10 Antutu benchmarks.
[HTC Sensation] miniterror:
hi show,

i have been talking with soem one and he brought up a intresting theorie that undervolting actually could be bad

could you share you mind on this matter please as if we uv we decrease the voltage so current will get higher if its correct what he said

Oki, let me tell you,

There are 3 components in electric or electronics

power, voltage and current

The voltage is the the 24 volts, or 120 volts, etcc.

The current is the Amps, the quantity of electrons running on a wire

And Power, is the voltage multiplied by the current, power is watts

If a device needs 120 watts to run and you have 1 amp, your voltage will ne 120

but if you decrease the voltage

To 60

your current will increase to 2 amps

Get it?

High current burns eventually electronics devices
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
That guy should really need to visit a school which teaches electronics beyond the point of 2 wires (black and red) connected to a lightbulb=light.

(especially microelectronics)

:p
[HTC Sensation] miniterror:
uhhmmm ok,

and could you explain me a little why he is wrong?

its sounds logical:S
[HTC Sensation] theraver:
What is the best to use with bricked kernel?

fauxclock

o/c deamon with deamon controller

set cpu

system tuner

currently i am using arhd 3.6.4 with bricked 1.4r1 @ 1782mhz and fauxclock 0.75
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Try picturing it this way:

If you have a lightbulb with a dimmer and you decrease the voltage, it should, according to this guy, get brighter. :D

(the ampere would increase like he said, and it would become a welding device in the end)

This is completely nonsense. No lightbulb did this, ever.

Or any other device with a resistor should burn up according to this guy.

(That's just not the way a resistor works)

The only way the analogy he explained is correct, would be if you have a transformer, with 2 coils and windings designed to decrease voltage. That would actually increase the ampere. (But I fail to see such a device in our phones ;) )

The voltage for micro electronic devices is usually controlled with LDOs.

Whatever works best for you ;)
[HTC Sensation] walkinhotdog:
hey show what version of this kernel would you recommend for arhd 3.6.4? either the rom or the kernel is draining my battery real fast. Also will flashing any of these kernels change anything in the rom? thanks in advance
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
That's nice, but what benifets we get in general phone perfomance/battery with those floating point operations?except better bench scores.

Also another question about battery, but not sure if its kernel related.

I noticed after i charge my batt to 100% and i use phone it stays on 100% for like 20-30 minutes than starts droping down 99%,98%.. my 2 friends have same phone, but using different kernels and differnet roms (3.0, 3.5), and have same expirience.Same thing happens if you charge to lets say 91%...it hangs there than starts to drop after some time...

Note i have SensationXe with larger batt than Sensation, is it anyhow related to that?

Also just to say runnning latest beta and runs perfectly, but i still get phone crashes while using Amaze camera (press back key and frozen), and it never happend with stock kernel.
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Flashing a kernel will not change the rom.

The only things that will be changed on /system are the modules the kernel needs, and a thermald.conf (Because bricked has enabled the temperature sensor for the cpu, which will be used by the thermald service instead of the battery temperature compared to stock 2.3.4 kernel)

recommended is 1.4r1. 1.45 has also proven stable for most ppl, but it's a beta.

Better efficiency -> less cpu usage -> more battery -> better performance wherever float calculations are done.

That behavior is normal on all Androids.

Try using the stock 3.5 camera instead of the amaze one (it has a better picture quality anyway :P)

Amaze mod v7 is known to cause this issues.
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
While a class 10 card would improve your benchmark score, a class 10 card is not nessisarily always best. Especially if you run a several apps from the card simultaneously. That's why WP7 sticks with class 2.
[HTC Sensation] tinker2000:
Ok,

This is my field.. Your friend needs to read up a little more.

Current = voltage / resistance. Lets imagine we have a telephone with some electronics in and that has an unknown total resistance of R. if we apply some voltage to it then according to ohms law the current will be the voltage applied / the resistance of our telephones gubbins.

If we increase the voltage then the current will increase and if we decrease the voltage the current will decrease.

PS: There are three things in electronics yes,these are Voltage, Current & Resistance. In their basic forms, everything else comes from those three. Power =V*I, V^2/R or I^2*R.

To use your example tweaked so I dont need my calculator. If a device is rated at 100W at 100V then at 100V a current of 1A will flow. However, if you apply only 90V then 10% less current will flow and the power will be reduced accordingly. To give you a real world phone example, My phones processor runs at 1536MHz runs at 1.15V but at 1890MHZ runs at 1.3V. The difference in power consumed is directly proportional to the square of the voltages, so 1.3^2/1.15^2 = 1.277, ie +27.7% more. Note that this is for an increase in voltage of 13%.

Now life can get a bit more complicated when millions of tranistors and high frequencies come into it, but the basics are as above.

Hope this helps. :)
[HTC Sensation] Laynee1:
I know this is not Amaze cam thread, but are pictures taken with stock camera really better quality ? Why to use Amazed cam then ?
[HTC Sensation] tinker2000:
Good point because the kernel would be almost perfect if theere was no amaze burst mode to FC. :) Havign said that, I am eternally thankful that Show-p continues, in an almost unrelenting manner, to improve what he has created.
[HTC Sensation] mexxxico:
People like Amaze camera because is fancy :) and don't bother about quality
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
This /\

Amaze cam is older than the Stock 3.5 Sensation camera. And it also does make worse pictures. (more noise/grain and some other things I do not want to see)

Try both for yourself, same picture, same settings. You will see the difference even on your phone's screen (if you zoom in ofc ^^)
[HTC Sensation] Laynee1:
Cool.. But where to find stock 3.5 Sensation Camera? Is that in IC addon folder proper one ? :)

thanks again, and sorry for filling your thread with this "rubbish"
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Ask your rom dev. IC comes with the default sense 3.5 cam since a few versions afaik.
[HTC Sensation] sosquidtaste:
Since I-- and presumably others-- was wondering the same thing myself, baadnewz has a flashable .ZIP that returns to stock 3.5 Camera/Gallery. It's in his Mediafire folder:

http://www.mediafire.com/?t74kay2965co3

"Return_to_stock_3.5_camera_and_gallery.zip"

And, back on the topic of how much we love show-- I've been running Bricked v1.4r1 for about 24 hours now. I'm able to set a normal clockspeed and undervolt that seems much more smooth than the same settings on Faux123's kernel, which is a pleasant surprise!

Not to mention that this one plays nicely with the Amaze cam, which Faux's most recent stable release didn't seem to.

Thanks a lot!
[HTC Sensation] tinker2000:
For me the flashback to stock camera doesnt work with IC2.3.4. I garee about the Faux kernel. He explains why it causes issues with the camera and I dont have the same issues with bricked.

@Show. What is the difference in your kernel that causes it to be more stable with the camera? I also note that Faux provides an awful lot of techie information. Whilst I dont understand some of it, it would be nice if you could provide an occasional techno overload paragraph for us. Just a thought...Shoot me down if you like.

Cheers
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
I didnt had this behaviour on my Desire, or saw prob on friends legend.

Also just charged phone to 100% used it 20 mins still 100%. Rebooted phone it showed 78%.. Used it another 5 mins and rebooted now shows 79%...Battery % isnt corect at all, and also battery widgets and monitors show weird data..first was showing minimun 100mA with screen off, now shows 8mA ..(Battery monitor widget set to Sensation)

Can you just conmfirm this isnt kernel prob, as devs at Desire had similar probs with with wrong values and got it fixed later (SNQ and Bananacakes).

Please enlight me if im talking crap...:)
[HTC Sensation] miniterror:
we just gotta love this forum:D

thansk for youre explenation.

ill try to understand it tomorow morning when im not stoned anymore:p
[HTC Sensation] Gunkk:
The V * I = constant concept only applies to constant power devices like AC electric motors. Undervolting an AC motor (brown out) will kill it.

Your phone is not an AC motor.

That is all.

Sent from my Bricked Energy Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Catnap:
Basically, your friend should probably attend more physics classes ;)
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Well I disagree about the tech talk. Usually that leads to questions which lead to a show-p1984 who is more on the forums answering questions than doing actual work ;)

But sure I can write you a nice long wall of text with stuff you probably won't understand (or maybe you would but 89% of the other ppl won't), but the question is: Why would I do that? What would it give us?

If you want to have a geektalk with me, pick a subject that you are interested in, join irc and ask/state your point of view. If I am online (when I am not /away) we can have a nice chat. BTW, the necessity for geek talk is reduced to a minimum because all of my changes are online @ gcode for everyone, and this is not done by every developer. The GPL requires this, but it seems that XDA gives a **** on some devs who just ignore that. Others are pm'd by 2 mods on the same evening because they release the changes with a 6 days delay. Well I am getting offtopic, b2t:

Long story cut short: Faux has included the very unstable slumber code from CAF in his kernel which is causing most of his blackscreens/reboots/freezes. Note: It was reverted at CAF a few days later with no comment. That usually is a bad sign.

I will keep my own "slumber-like" code approach, because I know it is stable ;)

slumber commit: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...ff;h=3b7ad9c5764eeef6439b9488c17f5e4d7500f101

revert: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...ff;h=417877fdd327168b1d1dedca73d0682942c7a3a4

Well, I had this on my HTC Hero, my neighbor has it on his Desire HD and now I got it on my Sensation. It usually will get better over time if you don't erase your batter stats. (It is not connected to stock/bricked/or any other kernel, it is just there)
[HTC Sensation] sosquidtaste:
Things are looking plenty stable on my device now (IC 3.3.9 + kernel v1.4r1). Just one question:

On Faux's kernel I was only able to stably undervolt using FauxClock to -62.5mV. On Bricked, I'm able to push it to -75mV using the same test.

My (limited) understanding before was that different processors can only handle so much undervolting, based mainly on slight differences in manufacturing processes (I think?).

But why would different software allow me to undervolt? Does the kernel have an effect upon that, too?
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
It should not.

I can only explain that with different calibration settings for the scplls ;)
[HTC Sensation] tinker2000:
@Show-P.

Fair enough. Thanks.... Your explanation of the differences in stability makes sense. I will look at that coding nastiness tomorrow and see if it does make sense to me. Is not my usual language :)
[HTC Sensation] mattdub1:
show, can I just ask where the heck you ever learned the kinda knowledge you have about this stuff? I know it's slightly off topic but it just amazes me...are you a software developer or something or did you teach yourself all this knowledge?
[HTC Sensation] voltaje:
This kernel Bricked-v1.4r1-ondmnd-1536-192.show-p1984 with Coredroid 2.5 is working great. This kernel made the rom faster and smoother. That is with stock speeds, not overclocked. Great job show!
[HTC Sensation] Gillion:
It is very easy for people to confuse the behavior of Inductive loads with Resistive loads.
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Indeed. (Imagine Teal'c's voice ^^)

I would put it like this:

95% self taught

5% school

:p

I have just an interest in everything that has something to do with technology. I am even a good mechanic because engines fascinate me too ^^

And if you are interested in something, you can learn better and quicker ;)

BTW: I was one of those boys who took apart everything he could find just to look how it works ^^
[HTC Sensation] MCRHAZ:
I can't seem to change the frequencies even with system tuner on latest rc Rom and only see one core in systuner which can't be changed from 1.53
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Working fine here.

Which kernel version?

Have you updated System tuner? (The app now always shows both cores, updated ~2days ago iirc)
[HTC Sensation] MCRHAZ:
The kernel is the latest one 1.4r1 I also flashed the cam fix along with it. It was working fine before up until a random point where I wanted to fiddle with the freqs more but when I went to the numbers wouldn't change so I uninstalled it and installed it again but then it said I only had one processor which was oc at 1.5 and I couldn't change that either but there where two change bars but only one CPU bar for one of them. So I went to reflash the kernel again and no difference but i do feel a diff as in the phone is faster.
[HTC Sensation] Xx12thANG3LxX:
Sup show. Love your work. But i have to tell ya.v.91 is the bomb!!!! You should study what you did in that version. Maybe start it as a base maybe. Cause whatever it was. It was pure magic!!!!!! Like 1.4 but for some reason it was freezing youtube up on me to the point i had to pull battery multiple times. 1.4 was smooth but not like v.91 anyway your awesome dude. Peace

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Lol, thanks ^^

personally I don't think 0.91 is smoother than 1.4, but I am using sense 3.5 :p

####################################

New test with major changes incoming REAL SOON NOW!

Eyecandy:

With kernel defaults. Not a clean run. 4th time Benchmark in a row. The other 3 were around 5500.

Sadly I had to exclude my FPU patch from the latest test since I couldn't get it stable in time :(

But I will stay on it ^^

If I can get it stable, you can expect this score @ ~1,2Ghz ;)
[HTC Sensation] aortega:
So, so, sorry mr. Genius

Show-p1984, first of all, I really apologize for what i said to my friend and teammate miniterror, is just that i really forgot about non-linear loads like the processors in our phones, and also, i don't really like to move that kind of settings in the processors, but that's another thing.

Call me stupid if you want to, it is o.k., i deserve it, I just read as you and tinker2000 suggested and found this link i am providing at the end of my post, I would really have appreciated an answer from you like tinker2000 did (thanks buddy for your kindness), instead of making fun of me with such a comment and some more i just already read from you, glad you are a genius, thanks a lot for your hard work in our community, keep up the hard work, congratulations for what you have done and get and so sorry for this, i will never disturb you again. bye.

Hope this link can help someone else like it did with me, it worth the reading. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10665408&postcount=19
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Bricked v1.45-test #490 Openbeta

Changes:

#472

* Removed audio idle wakelocks. (should increase battery life while listening to music)

* fixed two memleaks

* New toolchain gcc 4.6 linaro

-> A newer compiler usually produces more efficient code and detects more code fails

* Fixed tons and tons and tons of code errors. snq- helped a lot.

* Improved CPU sleep states (moar savingz!)

#482 (internal)

* msm: add dimmed capacitive LEDs

* removed notification LED timer

* changed min/max panel brightness

* msm: scm: update from upstream

* msm: cpufreq: set safe default min and max speeds for boot (1536/192)

* msm: kgsl: Don't check for idle while suspended

* msm: xo: Add NULL pointer and error pointer check

* arm: vfp/nwfpe: updates

* arm: vfp: patched fpu calculations to speed things up

#490

* REVERT: arm: vfp: patched fpu calculations to speed things up

---Not stable, needs more work =/

* Deleted useless cpu check.

* xz: Fix missing <linux/kernel.h> include

* updated toolchain

****Due to many requests, here you got it:****

* mm: CLEANCACHE (Backport from linux-3.1)

* drivers: staging: ZCACHE (Backport from linux-3.1)

* drivers: staging: ZRAM (Backport from linux-3.1)

* setup: Bash magic for the install script to let you just install it, without any configuration. Install zip, done!

* script: ZRAM swap size set to 100MB

Camfix from 1.4 still valid.

Click me

I ran out of apps I could open and deposit into the (Z)RAM :D

If you want to see the magic happen:

cat /sys/kernel/mm/cleancache/*
cat /sys/kernel/mm/zcache/pool0/*
cat /sys/kernel/mm/zcache/pool1/*
cat /sys/kernel/mm/zcache/pool2/*
cat /sys/kernel/mm/zcache/pool3/*
cat /sys/block/zram0/*
free

No thanks

to a certain developer for cleancache/zram.
[HTC Sensation] smallKING81:
CamFix

Hi there!

Is there "Camfix v1.4r1, Android 2.3.4, Sense 3.0"?
[HTC Sensation] Blodia:
The camfix is only applicable for those running Sense 3.5 with Android 2.3.5 if I'm not mistaken.
[HTC Sensation] ptr_hamilton:
Hey show,

What do you think about reducing the amount of available frequencies? And raising min to 384 instead of 192.

I just think it would reduce the ways the CPU has to go through and then the few left lags. Eg opening the app drawer still lags sometimes..

Other then that tyre newest test version is awesomely smooth ;)

Just my 2c
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
It was already decreased. I will not remove more clocks. Btw is that not the way ondemand works ;)

(Our cpu can change it's clock in 10µs, so even if it needs to go through allllllll frequencies, it would be done in 260µs ;) )

And if the lag only exists when opening the app drawer, blame htc and their sense 3.5 :p
[HTC Sensation] ptr_hamilton:
Not blaming anyone :)

Newest kernel doesn't work with systemtuner here. Decreasing or increasing a frequency will make CPU 1 to be always on. Need to restart to make it work normal.. my fault?
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Nope, it will shut down after a time (~40second ;) )

System tuner just wakes cpu1, it will not send it to sleep again, so the kernel will unplug cpu1 when it is sure that it is not needed anymore ;)
[HTC Sensation] n4sa:
I've noticed that. It's annoyed me from the minute I upgraded to sense 3.5. Another thing that lags is pressing the power button to turn the screen on. After removing CRT animations (from beats mod) it got a little better.. but still a bit slow.
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
*Beta bump*

and gn8 *night shift ends @ 7:50am xD*
[HTC Sensation] zx34:
I am using IC 3.4.0. and Bricked v1.4, but when I use smartass v2, spu1 freezing on maximum frequency. I know that I have read something about this problem a place, but I can't remember where. Hope someone has a solution.
[HTC Sensation] V6-Maniac:
Thx Show,

Gonna test the new kernel...
[HTC Sensation] Hereisphilly:
Just been testing the 1.45 beta, and I'm very impressed! Apps open like lightning, and everything is very smooth!

Had quite bad battery drain when I installed it, but I did benchmark twice, so that's probably the reason, has settled down now and its good!

One thing I have definitely noticed is that the device runs hotter in general use. Not doing anything taxing, messaging, internet, bit of xda app ;) - not a major problem, but definitely noticeable over 1.4r1

Cheers

Sent from my Bricked Inserted Coin
[HTC Sensation] wmoore:
Currently doing a backup before flashing 1.4r1. I've been using Faux's kernels in ARHD 3.6.x but word on the street is that battery is better with Bricked, so I'm keen to see if that works out for me too :)
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Don't worry, you won't even need your backup, installing bricked into ARHD has never caused me a single problem!

I'm trying the new 1.45 #490 !
[HTC Sensation] wmoore:
I'm just cautious :) But it seems to have installed without a hitch anyway. I'll report back once I've had a chance to play and test the battery life.
[HTC Sensation] petrosk73:
Finally! A fix for the Led! :) Tried it twice for over 10 minutes and led notification still flashes!

Thank you very much! :)
[HTC Sensation] nrvnqsrxk:
Are we supposed to force both CPUs online in system tuner? What are you guys running? So far from reading 1000 posts, what I'm getting is that System Tuner is recommended for overclocking, and Bricked is optimized for ondemand, 1536 max, 192 min.

Sent from my HTC Sensation

Edit: Changed 196 to 192 per show's correction.