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[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
Anyone know of any good themers around here?

I have something fun for you my lovely team Derp.

How does an app that allows the user to preview and download any of your themes sound?

If you are intrigued, download this apk and theme it to be derpadocious as possible.

http://classictomatoe.net/mods/ClassicUpdater3.apk

Ignore any references to classic because this is the updater for my rom. It is safe to install so you can look at how the layouts are and what not. Theme it up!

Once you're done send it back to me.

Today I played with the source code and have modified to work on any rom. So I thought of you guys because you have such a tremendous library of themes. I thought it would be nice to have an app that people can look at them all with screenshots and everything then download directly from phone and flash. On any rom.

Im just thinking out loud. This is how I contribute :-)

If you don't want to its ok. Hehe. This was a fun project to do today and I have it working for viperROM. Can't wait to get my hands on phone to do it myself.

PS the linked apk isn't the new one. It's the one from my rom and all I need is it to be themed. Thanks. :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
well it would have to be one of you and in bizzaro d3rp land ducie is the really nice one think about that and kyle would be cranking out the work and pstevep would have his thread updated daily.:D;)

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that sounds cool as he@@
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Mad scientist at work. I'm game. :)

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[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
/goes down on tommyt.
[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
Sweet. Can't to see what you guys come up with :-)

If you need help finding any of tthe layouts let me know. All the pngs are pretty easy to figure out.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Thomas Tomato

I love you

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[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Yikes, please revise. :eek:

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[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
agreed eeeeewwwww

there's a ghost in my phone :0
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
He is just a little over zealous

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[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
Its consensual.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
It's nice to see we all have our own ways of thanking Tommy... lol. :p

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[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
def you, i mean take it as a backhanded compliment, it means we think your nice in this universe
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Believe me he has done worse.

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[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
If duce had his way all I would do is update the op..

Btw has anyone seen duke lately?

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[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
I was wondering what was up with him also.

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[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
duty patrol, and i don't mean the kind with a "call of" before it
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Well I guess he was on like 2 days ago. But still..

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[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
speaking of dk...i just saw this. http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/26/2737264/google-plus-opens-to-teenagers-new-safety-features

g+ has the bieber fever, now.

this background should be in white hot. just saying.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
I could post perfect white bg's all day!
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
It should've been open to teens in the first place. I don't see anything R or X-rated about Google+... lol.

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[HTC EVO 3D] dastin1015:
It was open to teens cause I invited back when I was still 17.

私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
almost all my backgrounds I use are a shade of grey,black or white.

I just cleaned out my wallpaper folder on my phone and am down to about 60-70.

i agree. but i think its just google making sure they cover their asses.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
So how come duke said he couldn't get on because he was underage? Perhaps being invited gets you in as opposed to just making an account for yourself? I have a kid from here in my circle who's about 14 or 15. Despite being in the 9th grade, I'm sure duke's older than that... lol.

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[HTC EVO 3D] fixyourglitch:
Nice Work

Just wanted to say very nice work on the themes really enjoying the mellow yellow theme
[HTC EVO 3D] hockeyfamily737:
I love your wallpapers. I think I've downloaded everyone you've posted.
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Holy fried green tomatoes Batman! You the man Tommy

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] dastin1015:
Weird. My younger brother wasn't able to sign up when I invited him though and he was 15 at that time. So 16 and 17 aren't accurate representations of teens so I don't know why it was weird like this.

私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Ok people if ranger approves and I get a response back from a certain Dev....expect a major update to shadow sense 2.0 coming to a theme updater near you!

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
The suspense is maddening

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[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
Tommy's ghost rosie would be a very nice addition... Once he gets his 3D..

SwiftKey wanted to sub in Tommy Lee for Tommy's. LOL.
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
No Rosie no icons? Got a link to thread

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
It's in his classic thread. It would be a little more involved on a 3D because rosie and fusion m10s would need modding.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Tommy is intending to do the mod. If you do it, keep it private. I almost did a couple weeks ago lol :)
[HTC EVO 3D] SteelH:
I zheet muh drahs
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
I'm not doing it lol was just wondering what exactly it was.....if it is what I'm thinking could make a nice add on when Tommy done!

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
It's beautiful.
[HTC EVO 3D] KB112:
Damn, TT is gonna wreck shop on the 3d. Can't wait to see some of your guys collabo's. I feel like a D3RP groupie sometimes. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
No autographs please...

:p;)

I agree, I'm anxiously awaiting Tommy to get all innovative on the 3D. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Woo hoo! Permission granted!

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I'll sign ;)

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[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
What's the word on the themed updater app? No rush. I just want to know.

Also...if it all goes well...I can post it in market also. That way your themes will.be published officially :-) Real pros. Hehe.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
I should start threads to get devs new devices more often :) this is paying off lol. Yes we're in for the app, I grabbed it, but was busy last night with viper requests and my baby girl. We'll get to it soon good sir :) thanks again, I feel like this is the beginning of a beautiful thing!
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Hey Tommy, I just installed. Everything looks fine so far.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
theme ideas my design queen? screenshots of stock base?

/busy @work today = :)
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Of the app?

Also have any of the d3rp mods been updated to a general server as yet or will it? I'm just trying to understand how the mods will work in relation to the app?

I'm kinda noobish at this. :)

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[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I imagine the app will link to our spot on tommy's server.. At least that's what I'm assuming.

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[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Sounds exciting but I'm still not sure of all of the details yet...lol.

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[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
None of are, we're updater app/server noobs lol. We'll get it all figured out soon :) And then we'll be all pro-looking and special!
[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
Some details.

Updater will point to a manifest which will include a list of all Derp themes and mods. The app will read the manifest and parse the entries. The user can view the entries and preview the images and screenshots. The entry can be downloaded, which will be set up to download from classictomatoe.net.

The manifest is external to the app (probably gonna be hosted by Google project hosting for ease if access). And from there project members can update the manifest. The user can check for updates and the whole process starts over.

Sounds scary but its really a straightforward experience. I will see your site up by early next week. Hopefully you'll have some theming ddone and I can get the updater working. Hopefully also by then I will have the shooter in hand.

PS the app for team Derp will only have two tabs (Mod/theme and Existing) where the existing one has three tabs (Roms). Reason is Roms doesn't need to be an option...unless you want it to be.

Im excited to go in and play! Just got done with school and now heading to work. :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Sounds great and thanks for the clarification. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
sounds superbadass :)

hi, oh lady of the icons, maybe you can make icon/font changes? like our bootanims? I hope to get into it this weekend, but Delilah often has other ideas for my time, lmao. We were talking about themeing it sorta like our themes in general, using our color codes, straight lines, etc. Just some thoughts :)
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Do you mean changing some of the stock pngs for different apps to something else? We can gtalk this out...lol. Let me know. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
cool sounds good :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
That is fantabulous!

Tommy, you rock.

Got your 3D yet? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Where the heck you been?

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[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
Pretty excited :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Could it be possible that we may be more excited than you? :p
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Lol for real. Also extracted that apk on my phone lol to see the drawables :) we could have fun with this, it's only like 30 pngs :D
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
What are you trying to do with it? I kinda had fun theming that stuff, um, sorta...lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
That's what I wanna do / we have to do. Tommy said this will be our d3rp updater app :) so we d3rp it up. I was thinking the icon could be the d logo, but haven't gotten much farther than that lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Um...ok...lol. Well, when you do yours, let me know how you d3rp'ed it up. :)

Will these be flashable add-ons?
[HTC EVO 3D] nguyenhonganh:
double sig :p
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
That's him expressing his excitement...lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Ch1naski?! What the heck....Possibly someone more ghostly than I? How ya been?

And thanks Tommy. I am all about the updater. You are awesome!

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[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
white steel v2 is all done :)

if xda doesn't crap out again, I'll be able to link it in steel thread :D
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Eh, stupid "real" life has been taking up my time. Hate it. So I've just been running stock 2.17 Deodex. And getting quite bored with it. Let me do a little reading and see what I've been missing.....nothing for 2.17, I assume?
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
thought it was just me having a hell of a time getting on xda today

there's a ghost in my phone :0
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
What are the odds, huh? :)

I'm away for a short while, and you guys got all kinds of stuff going on......d3rp-o-rama
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
You miss a little, you miss a lot around here...lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
d3rp is the hardest working team in theme business.
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
Except me
[HTC EVO 3D] _SkullCandy_:
I am a noob and have been exploring the millions of things I can do with my 3D since I rooted it... I just wanted to give a big thanks to team d3rp for all of these awesome themes, their hard work and making them available to us... Thanks guys! You rock!
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
thanks for using your first post to show some love :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Ok. I'm on stock 2.17 Deodex. I'm gonna flash a ROM, because I can't stop. The determining factor for which ROM is:

Will shadow sense play nice with it.

Currently debating mean ROM, steel, or back to warm.

Thoughts?
[HTC EVO 3D] twister99403:
or viperrom? lol I think all are good :)
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Not on ANY new base 2.17, not compatible. Warm or steel.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
We know for sure new shadow works with warm. I assume it would work with steel, but it may have conflict because steel uses a custom leedroid tweaks in it.

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[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Oh yeah, swap out shadow tweaks in favor of steel tweaks if you flash steel, use steel apk name, iirc TweaksCDMA.apk?
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Didn't think so...steel it is, just to try something new
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Are the steel tweaks the leedroid tweaks?
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Yessir :) BTW I'm a daddy! Can't remember how long you been gone but baby Delilah Elise Wiley was born 1/11 Woot!
[HTC EVO 3D] sherown:
Does anyone have the link for the full blue dust theme? The link in post one is for an update and doesn't really make many changes to the theme.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
I pulled it. It was supposed to get updated by dkdude36, but he fails right now lol. Uploading, it really is incomplete. If you want the best look, here's my suggestions. First flash thesparkys theme, then push only systemUI.apk from this alpha zip, then flash the blue update, I'm that exact order. Lol

ALPHA 6 http://db.tt/aglYUGpK
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Yes I know. And that is the most beautiful name for what I'm sure is the most beautiful baby girl.

Welcome to your new life, Luke. Congrats!
[HTC EVO 3D] sherown:
That was fast. Thanks. Is there anything that will theme the SMS blue in Warm's rom like the other themes do?
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
I think in fowenati rom there's a themed one? Pull Mms.apk from his zip, might work. Also might be in sparkys theme too, not sure...
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Teaser
[HTC EVO 3D] tommytomatoe:
Congrats on the baby girl bro! :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Bahahahaha.

#teamd3rp
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Ok, got shadow installed over steel.

Watching that boot animation, makes me think a bootloop would be fun for a while.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Lol...you're right. That boot animation is pretty hot. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
You responsible for that one, lady?
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
member "binux-project" :) at my request, was a goodidea no? dude's skills are ASTOUNDING. hey did you name the tweaks properly?
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Lol... I wish. :)

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[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
the boots are so nice to watch, you would probably forget if you were in a loop.

the down animation of duce's white hot is rather nice...
[HTC EVO 3D] TODDzillaInLA:
just checking if deep purple theme works with the viperROM Redline v2.5 RC1
[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
if its based off the new base, i don't think it will.
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Thoughts.......

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] TODDzillaInLA:
yes phone is couple days old and has the .5 update already on it, so was limited to .5 roms
[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
not sure if there are themes updated to the new base...I haven't seen any.
[HTC EVO 3D] TODDzillaInLA:
so i shouldnt install deep purple and the purple keyboard?
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
dig the phone button

put little blackberries as the apps and personal buttons(ha ha)
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
No it won't work....most people aren't updating them to new base....found it not to be worth it

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Lol I should

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] TODDzillaInLA:
how come the themes in the market work? im pretty sure every theme in the market didnt get updated did it?
[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
looks cool...

(i hate how small the xda app makes pics so small, but if i look at on my phone it looks correct)

those are skins. skins work differently as they are an an actual apk. and will work on any phone running sense 3.0
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Flash a different ROM unless you like the update

multiple roms out that these work on

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Yes, I have themed tweaks.

Missed quite a few pngs on the battery mod.....or is steel to blame for that one?

Dumbass with a Smartphone.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
no, steel is never to blame for anything bad, ever. It's my fault in white, and rangers fault in shadow - fixes are coming soon :) just make the battery go away with tweaks and use the cool miui one :)
[HTC EVO 3D] TODDzillaInLA:
i just canceled the whole thing and went back to my last setup to more people start updating stuff for the new .5 htc update
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
I don't mind it- I'm not THAT anal...

Dumbass with a Smartphone.
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
ok opened up framework-res and htcresources from green d3rp theme and got like a bunch of .9patches not found renamign to png errors. the surprising thing is the exact same apks run fine on my phone. so the question: fix every dropped 9patch or ignore it?
[HTC EVO 3D] jimbobcooterrooter:
Is Orange Magic, so gorgeous, compatible with StealRom 2.72? I just wiped/flashed the Rom, and then rebooted into recovery and flashed Orange Magic. When I rebooted everything is kosher, except i no longer have a notification bar......really thinking about going without the notification bar if I must, I love this theme that much.

If it is not can you point me to what releases of Steel and/or MYNs it will work with.

Thank you all!
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
I think that's typical...lol. I've opened up some resources files and ran into decompiling and compiling errors yet I could never see any issues with these files when running from my phone. What I typically do is just take out the bad ones and compile what's good. Then fix up the bad ones then place those with the other good ones. Not the best explanation but that's what I do and it seems to work...lol.

Hi there, SteelRom uses Leedroid Tweaks whereas Orange Magic uses Warm Tweaks so this might be what's effecting the notification bar. Soon I will be porting the Purple and Orange themes to SteelRom so this won't be an issue. The theme works fine with Warm TwoPointThree and I believe a few other roms. Sorry about that. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
yeah thanks i was thining about doing something similar. thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
No problem. We all know the .9's are a pain in the ass but I found instead pulling my hair out, I just had to improvise a little. I believe all do that...lol.

So you're working on green? Cool. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] dkdude36:
Nah color changing some green to blue and adding some muted Grays so duce will stop yelling at me
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
I see...

il Duce is mean. He yells at us. :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] trollallot:
Fixed for update! Ranger got them

Still using my blackberry...as a paperweight
[HTC EVO 3D] jbermi:
which program do you use to decompile/compile? i been trying to use apkmanager, but it gives me odd errors sometimes and then doesn't work...haven't gotten apktool to play nice with me, either.

I do know the orange will work on CleanROM DE 2.0...I flashed it the other week to check it out.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I use apktool. It is easy. Did you set it up properly? Tons if tutorials in that. If reading them doesn't help, its quite possible apktool isn't something you should use ;-)

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[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Oh. Umm. SteelH said he'd take on blue. Those bad 9s are from warm stock fyi. We were gonna update green and port to steelROM, if you're bored lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Yay, I'm loving shadow (always have since it was alpha)

Dumbass with a Smartphone.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
I use AutoAPKTool and ApkManager, mostly. ApkTool rarely. :)

AutoAPKTool gives me the fewest errors.

+1...Warm does have a few bad .9's, especially in resources. Some pngs I had to take from a stock non-themed rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] jimbobcooterrooter:
Thanks for the info. I did try Warm last night, and i still did not have a notification bar with OM......i did however try the latest RLS and not just the RLS1 ver. I assume that is what did it for me. O well i guess i can wait for the port, just trying to have my gingerbread and eat it too. <----I know, lame.

Good info, i may give it a try. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
That's strange because both RLS's should work fine with Warm and shouldn't effect the notification bar like that. The only rom I'm ever tried any theme on, including Orange Magic, is Warm and no such issue. That's the rom I was on when doing RLS2.

Are you wiping between rom flashes?
[HTC EVO 3D] SteelH:
**** me I wish I had read this sooner. Hours right down the ****ter. Blue Dust update FTL. I give up.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
No give up. No. Nonono. Blue dust ftw.
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
d3rpies digging the new sigs, good stuff ^^^^is that a Duce pep talk^^^
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
He forced me to do these. He's mean. :eek:

:p
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
thats ok you get the praise:) and duice well he gets something else:mad:

lol

Duce stop being mean too those poor over worked d3rps:p
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
you just have to show him strength, hahahahaha i have successfully done nothing
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
How do you do that? Is that hard to do? :confused:;)

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[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
please read the quote in your signature....

BAM! you just got hit in the face!

lol, you lazyass :)
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
are you implying that me not doing anything is more beneficial

im excited about that, im going to take a nap now, or skyrim either or
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
i think today i am going to play a game called install a sense rom and calculate how long it takes me to hate it
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Take a few days, make a theme that makes you love it?
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
And you have done it well Kyle - keep up the hard work... What? Ohhh... nm

How come Kyle doesn't have on of those shiny new d3rp sig banners? Team player my ... Oh hey, what's up Kyle?
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
I like your new signature. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
Thanks - I was bored today at work!
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
haha its funny because i literally pulled my modnation banner like 2 days before you got you're 3d, and suddenly there is a new one :P
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
I believe this one was made by Big-O-Devil himself, I believe he made a wallpaper to go with it way back when...
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Where the heck did he ^ ^ come from? Ain't seen kfunk since hero days......

Dumbass with a Smartphone.
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
he has been following the thoughtlesskyle path to glory duh, heroC, Evo, Evo3d
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
What's up?? I finally broke down and joined the "In crowd" with the 3D a couple weeks back!

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Is this where the path to glory leads? Well said Duce...

Looks like it's pick on Kyle day - it's a great day indeed!
[HTC EVO 3D] thoughtlesskyle:
i remember when i was the cool kid, and all of you would ask me for help now i just watch
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
Still cool in my book!
[HTC EVO 3D] vanessaem:
Why just watch? Are you not still a cool kid?
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
I would like to watch you and ask questions again. Please rejoin the android mod club, it misses your classy ass themes, snappy responses, and overall willingness to try anything. Kyle, I beg you, whether it for d3rp, or mod nation, or solo, spend a few hours with apktool and gimp, and drop it like it's hot, cuz to me, you're basically snoop dogg.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kfunk:
Wow - I love it. It's like an Intervention for Kyle! You can do it man... snap out of it!
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
SERIOUSLY! you should talk to him, I think he needs help lol... Kyle+no theme=duce worried...
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
If you only knew how many of these interventions we've had :rolleyes:

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