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[Motorola Droid Bionic] Superguy:
It's not a matter of being a hater. I bought it. I gave it a shot. It doesn't work for me. I take it back and get something else later.

I don't see how that's being a hater, unless you're saying I should stick with a phone I'm not happy with simply to be in the club. :confused:

While I found the lack of color saturation mildly annoying, it was something that I could deal with. I had lasik done so my vision's very sharp and can pick up a lot of minute detail. I'm not saying I'm eagle eyed by any stretch of the imagination, but the acuity is good enough that I notice the checkerboard all the time. Others eyes are built differently like you said, so they pick up on different things.

I think that's generally a fair statement. Thing is though, when you're on the borderline, it takes more than just 10 minutes playing with it to get an idea if something is tolerable or not in the long run. The more I worked with the phone, the more I found that it was a deal breaker despite the other positives of the phone. I still lose some money, and the restocking fee is reasonable. And I'm sure Verizon factors in a certain amount of returns into their pricing as well.

I can see why Moto made the choice they did considering the energy savings. Just doesn't work for me. If the Droid HD comes out, or whatever they call it and it has the issue resolved, I'd give Moto another shot assuming the phone's at least rootable.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Superguy:
It's not about having it all. It's about being able to accept trade offs in something. What one person will accept is different than what another will.

I'm sure there will be trade offs with other phones too. They'll just be different.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] IronFists:
Lucky for you Verizon has a 14day no worry policy so there you go.... may be a way around the termination fee...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Dude

Do this

DOWNLOAD LCD RESOLUTION

Change NEW DENSITY to 270

Reboot

Enjoy

It feels like a big bad ass Tmobile G2X (that was my previous phone)

It's not Samsung Super AMOLED or whatever, but it is 92%-95% as good as my Tmobile G2X screen

The extra resolution really messes up everything

My only question right now is

1) Droid BIONIC with Verizon

2) Samsung Galaxy S II with Sprint?

Let's say I want

1) at least 3-5 bars everywhere in Orange County

2) I want to enter WalMart, BestBuy, Frys... and still have a good working internet connection

Which one should I chose?

I don't really need 14Mbps (although it's so cool to see that speed on a freaking phone)

However, with Tmobile, I would enter to Best Buy, my internet would drop, it was horrible

In terms of internet availability, any advice between Verizon vs Sprint?

I REALLY like the LCD Resolution program, I'm happy with my device now

IT IS A REAL ISSUE though, for the people that say that I am over reacting

It's soooo pixelated its horrible
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Any change you can please explain what you mean with that?

Pentile

Never heard of it

I had a Asus Eee Pad and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 had a better screen

However I didn't switched from the Asus to the Galaxy because of the screen

However I DID switched because the Galaxy Tab is the lighter tab out there, so I can actually read books and do all the stuff, and I LOVE my tablet right now

So, screen is cool, but I wouldn't change just for a screen

However with the screen as pixelated as the Motorola Bionic (and the fact that they were delayed 6 months), I was 80% sure I was going to return it to the store within 14 days

However with that app LCD Resolution, now I am not going to return my phone

UNLESS

Sprint and Samsung Galaxy SII work wonders

I think I will buy (depending on the cash) the Samsung on September 16th.

Then I will test them both, and then I will make my final call.

I like Sprint, they have cool phones (HTC EVO phones, Galaxy SII...)

Anybody knows if their internet drops here in Orange County?

or is the internet from Sprint stable?

My MAIN complain is that, as a former Tmobile user, the internet would just drop as soon as I enter a mall,store, etc
[Motorola Droid Bionic] guod2002:
+1...x1000000
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Diversion:
Pentile LCD is by far "cheap"..

Moto chooses Pentile because it's better on your battery and it's brighter than traditional LCDs when comparing screens at the same power rating.

I'd rather have a "battery saver" screen than a "bling bling, oh gnoes, 5% battery warning" screen.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] gormly:
Quite possibly the most useless thread on this bionic forum.

"me don't like screen, me return"

Really?

What exactly is the point in posting this? You mad bro?

If you returned it for your own reasons, so be it, why post it in here?

My eyes are pretty good, this screen is just fine, returning a device because it *might* look a little less vibrant than another one AND going to an inferior carrier IMHO is just beyond petty. But whatever works for you. It's your money. You should buy what you really like, no matter that it is a gram on the other side of a 10 pound scale.

But why... why post about it? Completely pointless.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Wadzii:
I dont really give a crap what the technology behind the screen is.. If I cant see it in my S2000 on a nice sunny day w/the top down then I dont want it.

thats why i sent my incredible back, thats why I sent my fascinate back, the DX was decent but not great..

The bionic.. is awesome. I can see it in direct sunlight w/my sunglasses on.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Superguy:
Tried LCD Resolution and played with a few different settings. Can't say it really did anything to help me.

Thanks for the suggestion though.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] haydonxda:
Oh, I don't know... because people post about their experiences in forums?

I went into a Verizon store ready to ditch AT&T (good riddance) and get a Bionic but I saw the display and was astounded at how awful it was. I'll never go near what looks like a cheap TN display that does temporal dithering. It's terrible. For a device that's supposed to be a flagship they sure bombed on the most obvious thing.

For those that think it's because it's a pentile display, it's not. The weirdo artifacts that appear when your eye/device/animation moves is because the display is using temporal dithering. Just try using that in the car as a GPS and you'll go crazy.

I desperately want another phone and carrier. I get dropped calls all the time and Samsung doesn't know what a working GPS is. But I'm not going to get a phone that's painful to look at as that's what I spend 99% of my time doing when I interact with it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ted1735:
Screen Issue

Yes I agree that it appears the screen is not the greatest quality, and can even seem pixelated at times. I am not sure if this is a driver issue, refresh delay, or simply an OS update would fix. I think it could also be a motoblur thing. I replaced my home screen with ADW and have not had or saw the "refresh screen" issue. It almost like when you change the screen it takes half a second to complete the image, like with rapid scrolling.

This big major is that I can keep it on the lowest setting, actually below the factory lowest and the screen is still readable in daylight outside !!! WOW You will never be able to do that with and AMOLED screen. They say super AMOLED is better, but this is great visiblity during the day. Lower brightness, better battery, and better outdoor visibiilty cannot complain!!! There is always going to be something in a phone we dont like!.

My Incredible was PERFECT. Only issue, small screen. Music, quality processor everything was great.

Also Verizon had the extended batteries 50% off for 4g phones!!!! $27 for Bionic Extended battery!!!! Pete's One Click root was easy fast and perfect, done the first time!!!!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eallan:
Right, on top of using a pentile layout that is controversial to say the least, the panel itself is cheap and low quality.

Moto needs to get away from these screens in a hurry.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] idefiler6:
So you had to drop $300 after hearing all the heat this thing got in pre-launch reviews and having an opportunity to test in-store, bought it, now you don't like it. I'm not calling you a hater because you didn't prefer the display on the phone, I'm labeling you as such because you felt the need to start yet another internet discussion on the subject.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sherwood1:
Honestly i just sent mine back today. Loved the hardware... Screen was fine for me. Reception was the best i ever had. I mean this phone perfect hardware wise in my eyes. But...... That moto blur overlay is complete garbage!!! Yes i know sooner later roms will come out.... But no cyanogen rom runs perfect. I like to have a out of box experience thats good. Right now im back on my incredible 2 and it feels great. Im gonna wait for the prime or vigor. But again the hardware was great on the bionic and receptions kills my incredible 2. But blur kills me!!!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Sherwood1:
Also one weird quirk ... Anyone notice pinch to zoom in gallery is horrible in bionic? This gotta be a bug or is it just me?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] TheLoonyRebel:
Sadly for me the pentile screen annoyed me more then anything. After several days that reason along with LTE modem suddenly no longer working is why I took the Bionic back and now waiting for either the Vigor or Prime.... or even the Stratosphere if its hardware is decent.

I will admit that the Bionic outside of the pentile screen is a nice device. The battery life is certainly an improvement over the Thunderbolt and its quite a fast device as well. Some people certainly are not bothered by the pentile screen so all the power to you. Its just I didn't care for it even though I was hoping it wouldn't bother me much.

Oh and by the way I sadly ended up paying the $35 restocking fee. Kinda sucks but not much I can do about it. :(
[Motorola Droid Bionic] LocoFreek25:
Hmm, it is choppy. Everything else is way snappy on the phone. They must have overlooked this, because it should be fixable with a better algorithm. I'm not terribly bothered by it, but my Apple friends would definitely troll me about it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jbdan:
I noticed that too today. It is sluggish. Weird because just about everything else is so snappy and smooth
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Well how inferior is Sprint to Verizon?

The problem I had with Tmobile was that I entered WalMart, I couldn't check email

I entered Best Buy, there you go, no internet signal...

Go to Fry's, I couldn't check the email either

Now, I am VERY happy with the network from Verizon

I appreciate your suggestion
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Anybody has experience with Sprint?

what I want is a network in which the connection is strong. So if I go inside a building, I can still use the internet

That's all I want to be honest

PROBLEMS WITH BIONIC

1) Screen looks like crap (kind of improved that with the LCD Resolution program)

2) Battery sucks (kind of fixed that by disabling LTE and enabling 3G only)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Well, the weird thing is, if you watch a movie, and watch pictures, the colors are not as good as the Tmobile G2X, but a very good screen

Colors look better in the G2X, but again, nothing I have to worry about since I wouldn't change carriers because of that

However, the ICONS look VERY pixelated.

Anybody has any idea why the icons look SO BAD but Videos/Pictures look GOOD?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Well my main concern is that they took 6 months to bring this device to the market

So now, if I stay on Verizon, I need to wait another 6 months?

I kind of heard (between lines) at the Verizon store that they WILL have a Samsung Galaxy SII with LTE, but re-branded as something else

I remember reading that Verizon WILL NOT have a Samsung Galaxy SII LTE

Anybody knows if Verizon is historically always giving their users phones a couple of months after the competition?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Chopstix9:
I am gonna throw a wrinkle into the screen discussion here ....

I have a Charge. I am definitely impressed with the super amoled screen, having come from the origninal moto droid. But here's the wrinkle. I drive a truck and the phone sits in a car cradle all day long, rooted and wifi tethered to my laptop, which has its own stand next to me as I drive. I have cardock de-activated so it just goes to the home screen when placed in the cradle but it doesn't go to sleep unless I shut the screen off. Lo and behold, my home screen icons are burned into the display! You can see it when the screen is dark. It is not noticible when the phone is active and screen is on but just knowing it is there is bad enough !!! It is like CRT moitors all over again!!

My question is this .... will the Bionic screen do the same thing? Does anyone know?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Cellvoice:
I am coming from an htc evo 3d and i must say the pentile screen takes some getting used to. Ultimately the bionic performs very well and ill take the new screen with battery save over a super screen that you cant see in sunlight. These new phones are just like laptops and desktops so you will never be able to remain up to date. Back then i was chasing the latest cell phone device but they were all on crappy carriers... What good is a dual core evo when your reception and 3g speeds are a fail. With verizon i am now able to get a slight signal underground leaving nyc penn station. Enough said.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Banggugyangu:
Not to mention, over-saturation is usually very inaccurate when compared to the actual colors that the screen is supposed to be displaying. I, for one, and a stickler for accuracy in my displays. I want things to be the colors they're supposed to be. As of yet, I haven't found issue w/ the pentile display in that regards. IMO, displays are always a "to each his own" issue. There are obviously some illegitimate arguments that some people will bring to the table, such as the person who felt the need to boast his opinion of how HDTVs make his eyes hurt because he had to squint to read the text from his computer (CRT HDTV... Really.... you're using that on your computer?). But for the most part, with displays, if you like something, go with it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tmc896:
well said sir
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tmc896:
I believe any screen will do that over time. why not just file a warranty or insurance claim and get another one?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tmc896:
did you have a 4g device prior to the bionic? If not the battery comparison to a 3g only device is not apples to apples i came from the charge and i can tell you the battery life is phenomenal in comparison. i had sprint once and the availability of service everywhere was always my main issue with them my in laws did as well years after and they still had the same lack of service issue.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] trathephoenix:
Verizon Wins

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I have friends here at work that only get 1/5 bars inside our building, but I get 3/5 bars with Verizon. Outside we all get 5/5 bars. I tried a boost mobile phone and couldnt get a signal at all in our building but full bars outside. My sprint friends said Sprint doesnt do that well in certain buildings. Ur 411.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eps3:
The screen is noticeably inferior to my Incredible. When the same high quality photo is viewed side by side on the Incredible and Bionic there is absolutely no comparison. Even the Verizon rep admitted that there is a shocking difference. The "screen door" pentile effects were tolerable, but the poor display of colors was quite disappointing.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Superguy:
Two things:

First, I paid full retail for the phone. As I said, I was on the fence on whether or not I could get used to it. I tried it for a few days and I'm taking it back.

Secondly, you need to be careful who you're labeling a hater and get your facts right. I didn't start the thread. I agreed with the OP on the screen though.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] CARLITOZ18:
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I can trade your bionic for my thunderbolt
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Do you think the Motoblur Overlay is responsible for all the horrible colors we're seeing?

I promise you watching pictures the screen quality was OK

The main problem appear when I using apps

If I watch a video it looks ok

not good but OK, I wouldn't return the phone for that

When using the Android OS it looks like crap pixels everywhere
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
Even if I have to pay $60 for the restocking fee, I would be happy, trust me

This device is $350 and since I was T-Mobile, I need to pay another $350 if I want to brake the contract with Verizon and switch to Sprint (Samsung Galaxy SII is a nice temptation to go to Sprint)

Sorry but this device is not worth $700

I'll be moving to Sprint and if I can't I'll just stay with stupid T-Mobile
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
I started the thread

I love XDA but I know there are A LOT of keyboard warriors out there, they are just fanatics, so if you want to hate anybody, hate me

However, I see a lot of people returning their device :)

That's exactly what I wanted, to see if it was only me being over perfectionist or if the device screen is crap compared to 99% of the top of the phones out there

Personally, I will

1) Go to Verizon tomorrow, tell them to switch my number from T-mobile to Verizon

2) Use this device for another week

3) Return it, pay the restocking fee

I still don't know if I am going to sign up with Sprint or not

I went to a mall today and the signal was alright inside the mall

With T-mobile I had no internet

Verizon and Sprint both had around 4000 kbps/s

I just hate paying money if the service/phone is not good

Tmobile phones are awesome but service sucks

Verizon service is AWESOME but phone sucks

Not to mention AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile had dual cores since Feb/March 2011.

They took 5-6 months to come up with this crap?

Personally I think Verizon produces phones as cheap as it can

Then it sells them as high as it can

Internet also is expensive $70 per month for 5GB and the ability to tether.

After all my experiences, does anybody here recommends Sprint?

I think it might be a nice combination of speed, phones, price
[Motorola Droid Bionic] maretus:
Good luck with sprint. Their data service is terrible in my experience and wimax is less than ideal. I switched from sprint with the motorola photon ( tegra 2) to the bionic and I am far happier with my decision. I've owned the evo3d and photon with sprint and both of their screens are comparable to the screen on the bionic. And Verizon data service is far superior to sprints. Sprint 3G was consistently 5x slower than Verizon 3G and wimax is barely reliable at best. I get much faster 3G speeds with Verizon and much much much faster 4g speeds with Verizon as well. I'm in a newly created lte market with Verizon and I've been seeing 25 Mbps down 6 up with lte since I switched to the bionic.

Sprint may have had a dual core phone for a few months before Verizon, but sprints service is inferior in every way to Verizon's. Great phones seem to come in cycles for carriers. Verizon is next in line to have the superior phones and by Christmas, that will be obvious.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tifford:
hold out for the Nexus Prime.

rumors are saying that Verizon turned down the galaxy s 2 bc we're getting the Prime. its supposedly going to have a Super Amoled Plus HD screen with 720p HD resolution and other sick specs. I really hope its true, bc I can't wait.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] manolith2011:
The screen on this phone sure is horrible especially on low light. My droid 1 looked better. I will still keep this phone because is so fast plus unlimited data 4g lte is just amazing. When the next gen of super phones come out ill get rid of this. As of right now i dont think that anything out there has the performance of this thing.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Abradax:
I returned my droid 3. I hated that phone so badly it hurt.

I got a charge, I loved the screen and 4g, but I really wanted a dual core processor since I will have this phone for 2 years.

I paid full retail for the bionic, and don't regret it for a second.

I am already used to the screen and the phone is so freaking fast.

Put me solidly in the "LOVE THIS PHONE" category.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
I've been waiting since March for Verizon to have a decent dual core phone with a decent internet speed

Anybody knows if Verizon has a dual phone that is cool and maybe works in 3G speed?

That might be a solution right now to my problem, I need around 3000 kbps/s, or 4000 kbps/s

That's all I need
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
problem with the screen is that when I sell the phone I guess people will offer me $100 here and there

It sucks, resell value of this crap is another bad thing about it

So many things could have been prevented with a decent screen
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rafarataneneces:
One simple question, inside Frys, WalMart, Best Buy, inside malls... were you able to check emails?

That's ALL I need, and that's something I didn't had with T-Mobile

It's cool that I have 10 Mbps on the freaking phone, I know, but I only need 3000 kbps/s inside malls and stuff

Please tell me in what city you tested the device

The ONLY thing that I am 100% sure is that I need to cancel T-Mobile because they FORCE me to pay $120 per month even though I have "No Contract"

They don't offer those plans anymore so I can't add/remove minutes

I'm really upset with them they never notified me of the change of Terms and Conditions and I'm stuck with an unlimited plan
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dougdascenzo:
Sprint's 4g service will usually get you about 3mbps-5mbps and can occassionally be up to 10mbps (not very often anymore). The problem lies in the fact that their 4G coverage is much smaller than Verizon's (at least in the midwest, specifically minneapolis area) and when you are out of 4G coverage, their 3G speeds are just terrible. On a good day I got .5mbps, usually got between .1 and .3 mbps.

For what it is worth, I never realized how good of a phone the Evo4G really was until I got my Charge. Just little things that always worked, i.e. GPS locked instantly all the time, phone reception, very little lag. My Charge has a better screen and has better battery life than the Evo did this early in it's life, but other than that the Charge is a POS imo.

Was so ready to pull the trigger on the Bionic, but have to be honest, I saw the screen and it definitely has left a seed of doubt. Still going back and forth on whether I will pull the trigger.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] manolith2011:
I dont buy the phone with resale value in mind. I dont look at it that way at least. I rather just keep it as a backup.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] idefiler6:
2 specs that I could honestly say I don't give a **** about. It's a PHONE. Bionic plays 1080p video on my TV just fine, I don't use the damn thing to watch full length movies on, OR to get a gaming fix other than playing angry birds on the sh*tter. Bottom line between the proc, the ram and the 4g radio, this phone is fine.

You're not going to get 3mbps out of 3g. I live in nyc and you'll be lucky to get 1.2 on a day with no wind. Combine that with the fact that they're more concerned with bolstering and spreading the 4g networks I'd say unless you find a press release saying otherwise, it's never going to happen.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Tornlogic:
The Charge is an excellent phone. I have both the Charge and the Bionic, and they are both great phones, but for different reasons.

With Gingerbread (which you can get the new leak right now) GPS is fixed, reception is improved, and lag is gone. I gave the phone to my wife, and and I kinda wish I hadn't now that it has Gingerbread. But at least she's happy with the Charge.