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[Motorola Droid X2] SuBDivisions:
Thanks for such a fast response honestly.. It's good to clear the cobwebs around here every once in a while..

You make fantastic points on all fronts.

I can only imagine the time and effort put into your themes and roms etc.. One for which i would never have the time nor patience to get involved in.

As with all technology, and myself being in the IT industry for over 20 years knows, that You get the best, but as soon as you get it, its not the best anymore.. I think what hurt most of all in this entire process, was after the fight and aching to get GB on the X2, its like that was the end of the fight.. Nothing left to look forward too.

The phone works. Every android device has software issues. We all know this. I think the thing every user here wants, is to know just how far and what this X2 can really do.. What happens if we put the pedal to the floor, will this thing burn rubber? Or have we hit the ceiling? Is this all the x2 has and should we months from now when our contracts start dwindling down, start looking at the future alternatives?

My comparison (to laugh), the X2 is like the old Commodore 128. Built on top of the Commodore 64, best selling computer ever, the 128 had promise.. Was faster, more robust, etc.. It never reached its potential because 95% of the time, it was being used in Commodore 64 Mode. Then we all went out and got an IBM.
[Motorola Droid X2] gnuworldorder:
i dont see the phone being dropped any time soon. it has the new dual core and gpu chipsets and its 100$. not everyone can afford a bionic. also 4g isnt in that many places. i still see people with droid2s. im sure there are people in the boat i was in. pretty much i didnt want a non smart phone for 2 years and verizon had this at 100$ why would you pass that up if you are tight on money
[Motorola Droid X2] SuBDivisions:
I hear ya, but its not really about not wanting one because of lack of 4g in your area or like that. Obviously the $99 price tag is amazing for what it is, but what i'm saying is that in the what, 4 months the phone has been out it is already shelved, being dismissed, and honestly slowed to a crawl any and all wonderful enhancements we were all waiting and anticipating.

Its the nature of the beast.. Every phone or electronic device goes thru this, i just can not remember one happening tho THIS FAST?

I was an Avid HTC Touch Pro 2 user on verizon.. That thing was honestly DOG SH*T slow since day 1, yet the community kept that alive for me for almost 3 Years of use, as painstaking as it was.. Roms, apps etc that just kept me wanting more and more...

I feel (and i don't think im the only one) like with the Lack of chatter, as a previous post said, the lack of push from motorola, now motogoogle, the locked device etc.. we are at an impasse. Its not anyones fault. It is what it is..

Maybe some of us thouhgt for the initial $199 (more like $320 after all the docs, extra batteries etc that some of us, like me, bought) and we would honestly have a solid year + of things to look forward too.. Instead, (and again this is just my perception, i may be 100% wrong, and or you can see it different) I feel like the development cycle has slowed down because no one can crack this sucker. There pushing us out the door like an after thought..

Hell Verizon ran that Father's Day X2 commercial, for what, 3 weeks maybe.. Not even 1 commercial about the X2 since (Except for 1 buy one get one free offer i saw about a week ago). Aka, Dismissed. Now i didnt expect Verizon to push the thing for 6 months, obviously.. but hey i thought this thing was a special peice of hardware.. C'mon, its NVIDIA ffs. The King of 3D Graphics.. I was (and still am) convinced that if anyone out there was to make a 3d capable device that could have an interface that wipes the iphone off the map, it would be via NVIDIA.

It could be me overthinking things, or just the fact that i Love this hardware... After years upon years of windows mobile bashing my brains to puree (i havent played with win phone 7, its suppose to be SALTY with the Mango update).. To have a device that WORKS is amazing to me still.. I just want more, and i want the users who share the experience with me to have the best possible usage out of a decice that deserved better then it has gotten.
[Motorola Droid X2] rancifer:
I agree with subdivision. I have and am still having buyers remorse with my x2. The devs for this phone have been great and worked very hard to make this a great phone, but lets face it 4g is where everyone is going now. Not to mention making huge leaps in custom deving a phone truly takes a large dev pool, something that we just don't have.

We recently switched our family plan over to my brothers Wells Fargo corporate account, with that comes one year contracts and no charge for extra lines.

I look forward to next June when I can change this thing in for the next phone.
[Motorola Droid X2] gnuworldorder:
honestly a week or 2 ago verizon had nothing that was better than the x2 in my book with maybe the exception of the droid 3 but i hated the keyboard. now they have the bionic if you want to pay for it. i guess verizon just has ****ty phones
[Motorola Droid X2] morphius2036:
Ok I just got my DX2 Friday and I moved from the Droid Eris we spent 8mo to get a full working root for everyone s-on and leaked 2.1 users. Someone knows someone just like in our case who gave up an answer to what we were missing on vulnerability.

Has anyone gone outside of this forum to find Devs bftb0, TopazArron, JCase, Darchstar, rigmarts, tazzpatriot, punkaos,and zifnab06 these are all Super intelligent Devs/Hackers that I was in on the IRC with researching for months exploits.

Who do we have dev wise that has rooted a phone from a 0day? Are we setting up them an IRC server and letting only thoes members in? I see a lot of prommised money and that is all good but no traffic for a Dev to root a device is present. I am not aware of who found the current workarounds or if other exploits worked so if there are Devs active sorry didn't know just got the phone.

The Droid Eris had no commercial time at all I just found it cause it was cheaper than the Droid 1. Once an root was found the aboved mentioned move on to other devices but the Themers and ROM Devs steped in and are still going, all for a phone that isn't even sold anymore.

So instead of being all upset about it spend that time getting to know other devs from other forums and finding out exploits or befriending them to possibly work on our phone. I just tweeted Jcase to see what he is up to.

A good Dev will enjoy the challenge this Ef'n bootloader and Communist Motorola has created. And with the recent purchase of Motorola by Google could be a good thing, most of the Season Rooters have contacts in Google and could get info.

I just went to PM Jcase and he is currently active looking at the bounty page. Now since it is a bunch of people just offering money I would think if the second pot for a DX2 for the Dev to use has to be legit. They are going to have to have one or two if they do work on it.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
I think our best hacker for x2 is navenedrob and he doesn't even own an x2 lol
[Motorola Droid X2] SuBDivisions:
Once again, i don't mean to be repetitive, but please do not take this thread as a "OMG THE DEVS ARENT DOING ANYTHING JUMP SHIP" post.. Totally not my intent.

Voicing my frustration at Verizon, Motorola.. and to a lesser extent NVidia and Google. No phone is perfect, again we all know that. This device COULD be one of if not a TOP Tier phone for the next 2 years if the proper people and channels got together and did something about it.

First off Verizon could have really pushed the Dual Core Phone as the future, and heads above the rest, since it out benchmarked every phone they had almost 5 fold.

Motorola could have been seen as a savior, instead of a villain, by giving us that true open source Option.. Unlocked Phone, Choice to remove Blur etc..

Google could have gotten off its pile of huge money and stock and said "Hey, we don't like how you are using our OS on this device, that has to change Pronto"..

NVidia could have said "Hey why are you not taking proper advantage of Our Tegra 2 chipset to show really what this bad boy can do?".

What IF's.. Thats all we have had with this phone.. What iF it was unlocked.. What IF both cores were truly being used correctly.. what if.. what if.. what if..

Our phone is a Very Very good phone. I Love it.. I have tailored it to suit me SO well that i honestly wouldn't change it for any device short of maybe the Galaxy S 2 only cause that seems to be the phone thats making everyone go gaga.. but i will say the Simple reason i didn't get a thunderbolt or wait for the bionic was the scary 4G battery life issue.

My upgrade was available in MARCH. I waited until JUNE to get the X2 to research and make a proper educated decision, along with my friend Ringo was was an AVID X User, and how much he loved it. I said OMG X + Nvidia = JESUS REINCARNATED AS A PHONE!

Maybe if anything, maybe my post can somehow get a snowball rolling down a hill. Maybe it will or can motivate that bunch of people to come out of the woodworks and say, u know what, this thing really deserves to show what it can do.

If in any way i could help this community, hardware, software, money whatever was to my ability, i would in a heartbeat.. only because i believe in every single user who visits XDA and these forums as users who truly are INTO their devices and only wants the best for the user base.

I prey a year from now, we are all on some great custom rome, running ice Ice Cream Sandwich and saying my god how this almost 2 year old device is still one of the best phones on the market.
[Motorola Droid X2] three west:
I'm with ya Sub, we were probably shopping phones about the same time. When it became clear that the bionic was a ways out I plunked down my cash for the X2. It was a big jump coming from my trusty TP2. I would have to say that my TP2 was the best phone I've had. It was FAR more stable than this thing. My wife is about ready to throw it out the window when it crashes and reboots at night and makes the famous "drooiiid" sound and wakes her up. Coming from winmo it seemed like android was the way to go since WP7 was going to be completely locked down. I have been disappointed to see how weak android is out of the box, and to see that I can't even do a wifi hotspot with this phone (at least without paying).

I do think that there's some light at the end of the tunnel though. I've seen a LOT more marketing for the X2 in the last couple weeks. Yes, they're selling them cheap, and they're doing BOGO, but they're doing the same thing with the Droid3. So I don't think its dumping excess hardware. Hopefully its building user base and with more users they'll fix some of the phones problems. Verizon sent me a trade-in notice offering $100 or more trade in for a bionic, so if I pitched a fit maybe they'd let me in on one of those. I considered it for a short time, but 4G is pointless for me for probably years. And I really do like the docks for the X2, I just wish they weren't so buggy.

I think I'm going to try to hang in there for a while, and hopefully we see some progress. Maybe somebody will even figure out how to get the thing to play an mp3 track without skipping.
[Motorola Droid X2] SuBDivisions:
Thanks man..

There are 2 people here in the boat with us.. Those that are under contract who HAVE to wait for something new, and those who aren't but love the X2 to stay with it...

I for one wouldn't change it right now as i love the phone, i just want it to succeed where others have failed, and truly take advantage of the hardware we were given.

I still want to know why motorola only put 512M (or 414 whatever) in this thing, which just made ZERO sense to me... With ram being so available, and So cheap, why not toss at least 1GB, or 2GB.. Set it apart.
[Motorola Droid X2] ericerk:
Lol right, the bootloader killed it, and everyone's busy with the 4g's thats what going on, vzw pushing 4g the "thunderbolt" No one cares about a dual core... I mean the d3 is deadish too, Bionic might save it, cuz it has same processor, but moto's dead atm, sh-t battery etc
[Motorola Droid X2] X0dus:
I have PM jt1134 from the Fascinate forum. An effort to try and get another dev possibly interested in joining minds with others here. He's well respected there but I'm not sure of his interest here, if any. It's worth a shot!
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I don't think bionic has Tehran. I believe it is TI omap

And moto is mum on why they didn't use tegra. Is it possible that ia where our buggy music problem resides? Since they don't seem to wanna admit that either
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
I'm pretty sure the tegra 2 didn't get along with 4g. That's why it was scrapped 9 mos ago.
[Motorola Droid X2] ericerk:
Yeah, d3 has a ti
[Motorola Droid X2] zetsumeikuro:
Honestly I wouldn't worry about this phone fading away man it has a lot going for it. I mean we have Nitro w/ Eclipse and Naven whom is going to uploaded all atrix ports which I am looking forward to (esp alien rom). I know someone is working on getting CM7! We have 2nd init going for us now, and if moto keeps true to it's word an unlocked bootloader soon? As for the switch to TI I think it has something to do w/ the partnership w/ Google. Yes the Bionic has a tad more power under it's belt, but nothing earth shattering imo. The newer blur probably coded better, but I want a full AOSP experience anyways so I'm not too worried about that.

X2 pretty much carries the specs of the Bionic concept I think? The Tegra 2, 512 MB of DDR2, qHD, it just lacks 4G which I could care less about since I have a 100 mbps connection at home. FFC I could care less about either, the 1GB of RAM woulda been nice though. I still love the X2 though it's GREAT as a phone, best in call quality I've experienced in awhile. So don't worry the X2 will have development and will be around for awhile.
[Motorola Droid X2] SuBDivisions:
I think the responses in this thread give us all reason for future hope, granted its not blowing up XDA, but it still shows i think some true and viable interest here.. It was and is a downer to see lack of new threads, and just overall activity for our beloved X2, hence why i think i created this tread..

Stirr the pot.. Kick the tires.. See if the motor is still runnin or are we about to get sent to the junk pile.

Here is what i would love to happen in a perfect world:

Unlocked Bootloader (DUH)

A myrad of custom roms of all walks and versions of Android

Customization like the old Win Mobile devices

True dual core coding and usage of apps and the os

Freedom to truly take this thing to a new level.

Freedom is the key.. How is it were on an open source device, that is basically closed thx to Motorola.. How can google not be really P.O'd about that?

I believe in this user base, especially those here @ XDA, where honestly the true and best mobile programmers, coders, and customizers seem to come when things are happenin the way it should.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
For all the trash people talk about this device, if someone ever cracks the bootloader you know for a fact were gonna have 50 devs and 5000 people jump on this phone overnight
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Guti1977:
After visiting SamsungFUSNews @ Twitter, I was able to note a newer ROM version for Samsung Infuse AT&T.

Could this be a leak for GB 2.3.x?

Does anyone has access to download this?

You need to have the following tool to do it:

Samsung_Mobile_Firmware_Downloader_Lite.zip

It can be obtained from:

http://www.modaco.com/topic/314541-samsung-mobile-firmware-queries-downloads/

However you need to have a password for this matter, which I don't have access to.

Does any dev have access to this? Sounds like a great opportunity to what could be the official release for our phones :cool:

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Device: Samsung Infuse

ROM: LinuxBozo's Hellraiser BETA6 + Dlev ROM v5 (Captivate/i9000)

Kernel: Infusion GB 1.1

Modem: UCKE5
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Ltilt2:
It's a froyo rom
[Samsung Infuse 4G] timeToy:
Looks very scammy, I will not paid a dine to dl a stock rom
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jdbeitz:
Pw is samfirmware.com I believe.

Its just an updated froyo rom with a newer modem
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Guti1977:
Well clearly it is not a GB ROM :p

I think we can close this thread then.

Thanks anyway

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Device: Samsung Infuse

ROM: LinuxBozo's Hellraiser BETA6 + Dlev ROM v5

Kernel: Infusion GB 1.1

Modem: UCKE5
[HTC Incredible S] VaderXI:
Hi all,

Just a few, hopefully fairly straightforward yes no answer, questions for someone to kindly help me out with. I have been S-OFFed for quite a while now and also rooted and want to finally take the plunge and try out a modded ROM...not sure which one yet though, but hopefully ill work that one out for myself! I have a few questions before hand:

1. What is and do I need 4EXTrecovery to flash all ROMs? I have the latest ClockWorkMod recovery installed via ROM Manager, 5.0.2.0. Is this sufficient? If I do need it do I flash it the same way as a ROM?

2. In theory all I need to do now is choose the ROM, rename as .zip file and download to my SD card, open up recovery and install? Should be able to do this using ROM manager?

3. What are kernals and do I need to flash new kernals/radios for the new ROM to work properly, or is this dependant on the ROM? Can I do this with only ClockWorkMod?

4. Will backing up my current ROM back up all my apps and music etc or do I need to use Titanium backup for this? Don't really want to have to reinstall all my apps and thousands of songs!

I think that's it. Thanks to whoever for sparing the time.

M
[HTC Incredible S] VaderXI:
Pleaaase....!
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
1) To be sure i would install 4Ext.

2) When you download the ROM it's already a .zip. I prefer to boot manualy (restart and hold vol down and Power buttons).

3) Some Rom's has kernel included. If not, the thread should list the recomended kernel and Radio. Can be flashed from Recovery.

4) You should always flash SuperWipe befor installing a new Rom. A backup from Recovery (Nandroid) will take a image of your current Rom that you can flash back to. Apps can eaily be backup'ed and restored with Titanium. Songs is on your SD Card.
[HTC Incredible S] itsbeertimenow:
You don't have to worry about flashing a new kernel. If your phone is already gingerbread 2.3 you won't have to worry about a new radio. Backing up your apps isn't really a big deal once you reset your phone with the new ROM and sync Google.com the market will remember what you've already downloaded and it'll show up under "my aps". As for your music its under sd/. Just download the ROM and place it on your SD card anywhere. Hard reset into recovery menu and wipe all cache as well as factory reset. Than select "update from .zip" select the file from where you placed it and away you go!
[HTC Incredible S] VaderXI:
All sorted....thanks for your help :D
[HTC Incredible S] suaji:
Good info from this thread..

thanks..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altera2:
What are the advantages of 2.6.37 kernel for android?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arifafzan:
Performance boost .
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chillertech:
Amazing what these stores get away with. my wife and I stopped in at a premium retailer and were looking at the dinc2 just out of curiosity. I liked it but told the salesman that I really need 4g for the constant tethering I do for work, I told him my upgrade HAD to be a 4g. He told me that there is a Sim card that updates the phone to 4g coming out very soon. Like an idiot I bought 2 on my upgrade and got rid of my Dinc 1. I ran the ruu right there in the store and unrooted, handed it to my brother. Throw your blackberry in the trash dude....

When I found out he lied the manager said he would not wave the restocking fee. He also said the activation for two years was irrevocable. Called Verizon, they waved it and said I have 14 days for the activation reset.

Manager of the store, when I called back, said since he is a premium retailer, he can and will charge the fee. had to call Verizon back to prove this untrue.

There must be no governing of these stores at all. , Verizon doesn't care and there doesn't seem to be much I can do. I love the phone actually but no way i'm buying it from these guys....but I HATE to have to fight with people over stuff like this

Anyway just fishing for opinions, and looking for any advise I can get.

at least i'm back to running magnolia. man I missed that ROM! Runs awesome on this phone too.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Weselers:
Unfortunately it is the retailers phone not Verizon's, so in fact he can charge whatever he wants. Bypass the manager and talk to the OWNER of the franchise should get it taken care of. I'm sorry that you were lied to but this is a perfect example of why doing your research is VERY important, who knows the store you go to may end up trying to charge every cent
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nismopc:
If this is a 2 year renewal upgrade, you could have went thru Amazonwireless.com and purchased the Dinc2 for 1 penny + free shipping. Yes only a cent! :eek:

Tbolt and Droid 2 are also available starting at only a penny depending on your contract, discount and renewal. ;)

I looked at Verizonwireless.com and they wanted $199-$30 Verizon credit = $169, then on my corporate discount website and they wanted $199-$30 Verizon Credit - $30 Corp discount = $139.

Amzonwireless.com 1 penny + free shipping and it was delivered to my door in 2 days. :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] oxlong27:
just want to add my experience with a third party retailer. I bought a tbolt from one and didn't like it, I have a mifi pad so my phone doesn't need to have 4g I went to return it to get my dinc2 they said they couldn't because I didn't have the.sleeve with the serial numbers that goes over the box. so I went home and tore the house apart. then my wife, who has a photographic memory, informs me it didn't come with a sleeve. so I went back to the store and it took three calls to a manager and me raising all kinds of hell to get it switched. the tbolt was only two days old by the way. Morale of the story is third party vendors are crooked an will screw you all day if you let them
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
And to add to all the above... A lot of the salespeople have no clue as to what they are selling. They will tell you anything to make the sale.

I do know there are a few out there that do know what's up in the world of mobile phones, but where I live they are few and far between.

Google as I say (and many others) is your friend.

Hopefully you can get this straightened out without costing you more money.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] zax10:
I have to say that third parties are hit and miss. I manage a premium location in sc. We follow the guide lines of Corp. If customer service says waive then we waive. We are one of the few around that work off that philosophy. We want customers to have a better experience in our stores than corporate stores.

With that said I have had my own horrible experiences at premiums and authorized retailers. There a lot of crooks out there and will rip you a new one at the drop of the hat.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] oxlong27:
your one of the few good ones then. too be honest that whole experienced soured me on third party retailers I'll spend the extra couple bucks and go to the official Verizon store
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chillertech:
oxlong, you and I shoulda gotten together! Thats the one I want lol. I can handle the battery.

I freaking dropped it today. Put a small but unfixable dent on the top. The fine print of the guarentee doesnt mention condition of the phone. Hope I didnt just give them their out.