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[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
If I was going to upgrade, id go with the bionic or wait for the prime! They seem to be like a good choice. Jus mp opinion.
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
Hacking bootloader

This may be a dumb question, but couldn't we just brute-force the password? Or use a cryptanalysis attack on the password? This is for the bootloader by the way. Do we even know the Atrix's password that unlocked it? If so we could go by how long, and what types of digits (e.g. 0-9 ABCD... abcd.... symbols) were in it so we could know better what to look for.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
Id focus more on the photon than the ATRIX, they used our bootstrap before they unlocked without making any mods at all
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
Well can we get someone on this?
[Motorola Droid X2] myriad46:
Please reference the below quote...
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
Sorry forgot about that one.
[Motorola Droid X2] krazykid6911:
Just wanted to say THANK YOU to everyone working on this. Someday i know we will be overclocking!
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
Ah, overclocking an X2.... Makes my mouth water.
[Motorola Droid X2] singlesword:
I'm still going through court right now so I'm not really able to help right now sorry guys I gotta protect my kids first. Once it's done tho I have about 3 people to help me which I might have it done by this month or next if ever thing goes correctly.

Sent from the unseen drone using XDA App
[Motorola Droid X2] mostKnownUnknown:
That was the case for the Sony Xperia Play bootloader unlock (before Verizon started tracking MEIDs). They needed a special "password" to run the "fastboot oem unlock" command in the bootloader. That is not the case for the Atrix, Photon and the DX2. The three phones don't have the "fastboot oem unlock" command in the bootloader in an official OTA/SBF. Atrix and Photon folks got that unlockable bootloader via a leaked development OTA/SBF. It would be the same for the DX2 if we found the right development OTA/SBF (See Project Pudding and Project Cheesecake).

There is a possibility of extracting unlock processing from the Atrix/Photon bootloader. Probably can't run that after the OS is running (since the kernel would prevent user access to unauthorized memory spaces). Also, it requires alot of ARM disassembly knowledge. But it is a possibility for someone with the experience and because basically the three phones have the same bootloaders (just with different radios and features).

As for a "password", there is a possibility of extracting the private key from the signature. This allows for someone to sign as if they were Motorola thus tricking the bootloader to think that the new overclocking kernel is "Motorola Approved". The digital certificates in the signed partitions have the public key, modulus and the signatures. I've also learned in the past few weeks both the crypto method and the hash method (PM me for that info). The problem is that the crypto method is 1024-bits long and that takes a looong time to crack via bruteforce even with distributed computing. I'm more in line trying to find a certificate flaw at best. But if someone wants to try bruteforce cracking, I can get you the information to get started.
[Motorola Droid X2] krazykid6911:
I have a few extra computers running and I figure every little helps. Pm sent
[Motorola Droid X2] Zues532:
Finally have my 10 posts! phew.

I'm also interested in giving bruteforce a try. I PM'd you earlier this afternoon, awaiting reply.
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
Yeah my pm is on the way. I hope this works. I came from one of the most supported devices of all time (DROID 1) to the X2 and its been hard coping with the lack of overclock and limited availability of roms, but the roms we do have are pretty good, just no kernels included because of the bootloader issue.
[Motorola Droid X2] Zues532:
Same here, I'm kind of kicking myself for not waiting for a D3 (I was completely dependent on the physical keyboard, but I'm warming up to the touchscreen). But I'm happy with the rom support for this phone.

It's just the lack of kernels that's bothering me.

I'm just happy to be able to contribute something to the bootloader unlock (even if it turns out to be nothing). I'd rather be doing something productive than nothing at all.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
Check the cheesecake and pudding threads! !!!
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
I actually switched from a Droid 3 to this. Droid 3 is actually slower. It may be that the OMAP 4 processor is faster slightly, but I couldn't see it. Probably due to the amount of bloatware they stuffed into that device. So much laggier than the X2. I thought the physical keyboard would be good, but I had the same issue I had with the Droid 1, the sliding parts in Moto devices are just too lose. Ex: If you have the screen closed and tapping on it, sometimes you get an audible clack when tapping due to the keyboard and screen hitting each other. I think you made the right choice, though it was certainly faster with the D3's keyboard, I just prefer speed.
[Motorola Droid X2] swbf2lord:
Considering that the sbf files contain a kernel, can't we just extract and/or decrypt the bootloader password from the sbf files. Certainly there is a way to do this, I.e. opening the sbf through a specefically designer explorer, hex?? , and discovering the bootloader password that way.
[Motorola Droid X2] onefix:
Not really. From my understanding, all of the official updates are signed in the same way that ssl certificates are signed. So there is not a password per se, but a 2048 bit (or more) key. This is not easy to crack, as you would first need to determine the public key without knowing it's real size, then somehow reverse engineer the private key. This isn't practical, since the whole process would take years when done with dedicated hardware. By the time you cracked the boot loader this way, the X2 would belong in a museum.
[Motorola Droid X2] (aq):
yea without the public key, and the use of standard computing to do all the work it would take a lifetime to crack and that's keeping in mind the constant rise in computer speeds and technology as time goes by.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
You guys don't get it, the phones that have the bootloader unlocked, most of them have had a sbf file leaked that has the ability to unlock the bootloader. We do not have that coded onto our system. Cracking the encrypted bootloader key will take way too long, it's almost stupid to consider it. There either needs to be a workaround to the checks that the system does or there needs to be a leaked file.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Weren't people snooping the Moto servers looking for stuff? Where are the "anonymous" hacker nerds when you need them? Probably taking down another bank or Sony I am assuming.
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
We are snooping around in the bionic forums. Phydo made an app that makes it easy.

I spam the servers at least once a day. I've found a bunch of upgrades but they were already found. Maybe see if he can make the app work for you.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1281675

Works on x2, just did it.

I did a nandroid first.

edit How to change servers?

Got it.The field scrolls ;)

Scroll very slowly after it goes blue then touch it to select.

Should'nt we be on the oldest sbf?

edit http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18440262&postcount=256
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Are u serious? ! Someone FINALLY made an easy way for us to check the.moto servers using.our.phone?! Holy crap I am on this!!!

Do we have confirmation from the2dcour that using this will check the same servers he is doing for us? We need to spread this and make it its OWN project thread and stay on it ...(sticky??))

Just want to clarify ..is this checking the x2 servers or is it just a main server for ALL moto device and we gotta search for ours ...im gonna nand and try tonight...I really hope this is easy enough for A LOT of us to do and one of can stumble onto something great...
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Awesome find!
[Motorola Droid X2] Anotha'newb:
Ok I downloaded the api, when I try to install it says unable to parse package. Any ideas of what is wrong? I did try and dl two more times with same results.

Oops nevermind, I was on group. Once I SBF to 2.3.3 it installed no problem
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
So it only works on 2.3.3?
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
IDTS

I was only asking , if 233 will get an UD better than 234.

Bump Devs and wantabes Does this really work?
[Motorola Droid X2] Anotha'newb:
I am not sure, I just know I could not install when I was on froyo, haven't tried 2.3.4 yet.

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Try it! So far myself and one other person have said it works...so do your nandroid and give it a go for yourself.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
I AM the one other.:)
[Motorola Droid X2] DAG425:
Just installed on 2.3.4... Haven't tried as I do not have ADB setup... Do I really need ADB?? If I do I am gonna have to put Ubuntu on my PPc Mac and get some help as I have never gotten the SDK and ADB working...
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
No need. It all runs right from your phone. The app does it all.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Cool, well I have been on Eclipse 1.2 RC1. I will try this out in a few.
[Motorola Droid X2] DAG425:
Thats what I am running so u should be good to go....
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
I keep getting a white screen, that I can back out of, when I check for updates. Also, when I rebooted I got the triangle, but I called my brother and I have perfect service lol.

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Nevermind, lol I read the 2nd post on his thread and it made sense.
[Motorola Droid X2] ilprobu2:
Installed app worked fine checked all servers most were down few checked and said I was up to date no updates at this time hope for the best If I find anything I'll post here. But sites seem to be checking servers sounds promising..
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
If you find updates post them in this thread...

[Pudding] Help me help you eat delicious pudding (aka BL unlock)!

Downloaded updates can be found in: /cache
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
So the bionics kernel source has been released, would that be any help too us seeing as the ATRIX and bionic are similar to our X2. Just a thought.

Also this gives be hope that they may release it for us:D
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I saw this too! I surely hope so.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I had found something on sourcescourge a little while back that mentioned x2 kernel source code etc. Search the site bionic 's was found on. I am CERTAIN I saw it there somewhere. I had even posted about it in this forum((may even be beginning of this thread))

Edit here it is! ! http://sourceforge.net/projects/mb870.motorola/files/Droidx2_VZW/DTN_14.8/

2ND EDIT::: just found something that was added there 6days ago for dx2

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mb870.motorola/files/Droidx2_VZW/DTN_150.30/
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
This may be a little too early, and unwarranted, but...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is my facial expression. lol
[Motorola Droid X2] aardvark502:
Excuse my noobiness but what possibilities can this maybe do for us.

Tapped on my Eclipse DROID x2
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
I really hope im wrong but I don't see it meaning much of anything.

Last time I brought it up nothing was really "done"

I would think that knowing kernel source code info could help but WHY? why would moto give us ANYTHING to help our own development?
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
Because if they don't they're going to lose too many sales to Samsung and HTC.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
very VERY true.

I have already been looking to buy a charge or maybe a "vigor"

I will just be patient tho as I know amazingness is on the horizon.

but I will keep my x2 either way. I will never lose faith in this caged beast but I WILL use other phones intermittently ..

I also haven't given up on moto completely yet either. They make great phones

Can't wait to see this "spider" "hd" "razr" which should be out when I wake up ;)
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
that razr looks like what the x2 should have been zomg it looks nice lol

hey maybe Moto will just release the stuff we need because they are such nice people
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Thank you. I REALLY needed that laugh :) I literally chuckled at that :)

after seeing their response to the soak testers and how they just.pushed the update anyway

I find that funny.

The bionic looks.like what x2 should have been.

Razr looks like what bionic should have been.

So far that is.

I think they held out just to get their BEST SELLING PUT MOTO ON THE MAP name for a phone out there around same time as iphone release, htc release, and nexus release.

Yeah u know. JUST in time for holidays lol
[Motorola Droid X2] 1stx2:
Moto will never unlock the bootloaders-fact.

Just sitting around waiting on the nexus now...
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Wrong

Moto WILL

VERIZON won't

(Moto isn't that ignorant to lose a nice chunk of customers over something that doesn't mean much to them as much as customers buying the phone to begin with. Blur cannot be that important to them )
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
Seems to me the thing stopping them is the fact that locking the bootloader can prevent people from totally screwing up their phones. When you see 50 people a day not reading directions before they flash stuff, you can understand. Imagine getting 1000 repair calls a day because morons can't read and have no clue. Having partitions locked by bootloader is a great way to keep these idiots away.
[Motorola Droid X2] booked:
It was done on the D1, on of the best selling phones ever. So I don't really agree with that logic.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
I always thought idiots used iPhones?
[Motorola Droid X2] X0dus:
Custom kernels are easier to install than a ROM. Couldn't imagine many issues from people.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
Twice as easy for noobs to flash a kernel from the Droid x thinking 'its the x2 it will work just fine' is my point.
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
hahahahahaha, he has a point you know
[Motorola Droid X2] singlesword:
So Motorola is blaming Verizon for the locked bootloader saying that they requested it.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
They blamed that for the Razr, they didn't say anything about the X2.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Verizon doesn't want ANY unlocked bootloaders. Like said above they end up paying for bricked devices. That's what they afraid of. THAT and stealing wifi hotpot(which should be included with how much data u buy anyway imo )
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
You don't need an unlocked bootloader for that.
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
I don't think so, if you mess up your device VZW won't do anything. Besides a lot of people have the third party (I think) insurance and you are paying for that and can get a new phone anyways, not having to deal with VZW.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Asurion only deal with insurace claims. Warranties are handled by Verizon and they pay ~$350 out of pocket per warrantied device. Your WiFi antenna goes out, they can't fix it over the phone and they overnight you a new device, $350 spent.

This is information direct from a top tier Managerial Tech position at Verizon.
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
So you're saying if something goes wrong with your device report it stolen and only pay $50. :)
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
well I mostly knew that but I thought if you were rooted or anything any warranty claim would not be available because they are assuming it is not a warranty problem but something you (person filing claim) screwed up
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
So just SBF back to stock and return device.
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
if you can sbf back wouldnt that mean there was really something wrong with the phone? I haven't seen something that messing with your phone breaks that an sbf cant fix lol

so if you hard brick your phone then you file an insurance claim
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
It cost $100 when I did that!
[Motorola Droid X2] L2_n19h7m4r3:
What? Why? Insurance claims should only cost $50.
[Motorola Droid X2] booked:
I think my insurance is $90.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Asurion insurance claims on smartphones are $99. I was stating the $350 is what Verizon pays, not what you pay. It is free for you to send your phone in under its warranty or extended warranty period. It is not free for Verizon to have the phone refurbed.
[Motorola Droid X2] EvilTim:
The irony of the situation is, if they unlocked bootloaders it may cause more bricks, but if they release programming tools, people could fix it themselves. The problem being whatever program they use (I imagine a more powerful version of rsd) the phone may be more likely to be reverse engineered, causing proprietary secrets to be lost. In regards to the motorola lockdown before the Google buyout, its probably just to make sure the company is in the exact state as when they put the bid out. Remember it will probably be at least another 3 months before that deal gets finalized. During a transitions like that, a responsible business will protect their assets.

These are thoughts not facts.
[Motorola Droid X2] jeffgarret:
What motorola and verizon don't see is the market that would be available to them if they would make devices the people could use the way they want to. I am positive that barnes and noble would have sold half as many nook colors if it weren't so easy to customize it. And maybe by accident that device is almost unbrickable.

If you try to compete with apple on the locked down non customizable hardware front you will lose every time.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
What insurance do u use and how much u pay each month?

Im pretty sure mine will cost me around 100 also
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Verizon uses Asurion, and I am pretty positive that isn't an option that is changeable.
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
I agree 100% with the beginning!

also I didn't think about it from a business standpoint as too why Moto is being more secure. Sigh, I hope this deal goes quickly and we see some nice changes
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
The game has changed since then. We now have, what, 190 million people on android and 60 some phones?
[Motorola Droid X2] balltongue:
I found some info on rootzwiki about a possible way to get around the bootloader. He posted some info that can be found here.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/4576-question-on-bootloader/

Dunno if this has been looked at already but I thought I would post this.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Looks like a dead end. No one posted since September, and they were all newbies.
[Motorola Droid X2] morphius2036:
Not a Newbie just my first Moto phone so not used to a bootloader being the issue at hand. I am Gh0stRyd3r on Rootz.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
FWISW: This works on our phone. it may also allow some of those partition related "Software Download" features.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1211157

"""Plug usb into computer.

Power down the phone.

Hold volume down and power to get into the bootloader menu.

Press volume down until you see BP Tools.

Press volume up.

New drivers should install.

One of them says something about diagnostics and will give a port#. Mine was com 18.

The phone should then boot up.

Open QPST and you should see the port it showed during drive installation.

If it does but says no phone just boot back into BP Tools and the phone will show. Proceed as you normally would with QPST."""
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Not only you, lol.

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Which would help with webtop? I think they already have up on that due to ram :(
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
EVERY DAY I am reminded I am a newb ;)

(No matter how much I can 'help' others)

I cannot create a rom, mod, script, application, or even get cwm to work without hijack lol

I might be able to do some of that if I had a working computer but even still I don't know nearly enough to not be considered a newb lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
If that were the case, this site should be called xda-newbies.com lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Wouldn't be a bad idea considering how quick some forget they were/are "newb"

I find it easier to help a "newb" figure stuff out and no longer be a newb than it is to give them crap :)

I have also found out recently that these "newb"I know a hell of a lot more than I do about a LOT of stuff. And could be very helpful to others in our forum. Just because they are new to the x2 doesn't mean they are stupid lol. I guess I'm just a newb advocate in hopes that they don't get pissed off and run away after some replies. Hell u never know they might be married to a Motorola developer who would be willing to help us get that bootloader we want so bad ;)
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
My philosophy is, if they can't read, they aren't smart. lol, in this thread I was more referring to their time on the board, not their lack of intelligence.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
New people know new people ;)

I'm just conversating with u. I hope I am not coming off as argumentative. I know I can seem arrogant sometimes lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Nah lol, I didn't take it like that. I was just defending my posture, letting him know I wasn't calling him dumb by any means.
[Motorola Droid X2] morphius2036:
Hey didn't mean to come off territorial just the same thing happened in the Eris rooting process after we had a leaked ROM that gave us root I was playing around and was in adb mode in fastboot. Mentioned it to a Dev if we could slow the ADB check process down on boot to throw a shell code to get a panic we could possibly crack it open.

Was blown off and two months later the method to get root was to have a xSize SD card and load this file which filled the SD card and had a shell code in it. Made the ADB check take long enough for the panic in the shell code to break the boot and give root long enough to throw another shell code to get permi root.

So yeah get a bit testy if I think I had something but I am frustrated I can't test it out because its out of my realm of skill level.

Sorry Wife's a Teacher no secret Moto Dev.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Yeah we all on the same page ;)

Are u saying the bootloader hot unlocked that way? Or just got root privilege?

That reminds me of something someone said about maybe slowing down the signature check in order to "trick" it into unlocking the bootloadet using a command from adb. Was that you that mentioned that before?

That or a leaked sbf ((from ur moto dev wife ;) haha)) still is our best bet for unlock.

I just wish I had a computer to be able to even just LEARN how I might be able to go about that. I have way to much free time and wish I could spend it researching other methods.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
Our biggest issue is that most of the devs are stuck in their ways. If a previously discovered way doesn't work they call it quits and jump ship to an easier phone. I am positive someone can do this for us, they just don't want to give us the time of day. I mean, it is understandable because this **** is ridiculous, but it would be nice if we had a dev as dedicated to cracking the phone as Nitro is to building ROMs for it.