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[LG Optimus 2x] B4Me:
Im an electronic engineer, and the way described is dosnt have any flaws ?

its the way you charge capacity.... so next time, maybe start researching before blaming others to lie ? !

http://www.reuk.co.uk/Measuring-the-Capacity-of-a-Battery.htm

If youy know your load, and voltage, then you can easy get the watt-hours/capacity....

Its like capacity 101.....
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
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Second you cant work out the capacity because no one knows its true capacity .....capacity 101 idiot, some have said they get no increase some a big increase and others claim its the same, these are clearly just a bunch of generic chinese batterys with different capacitys which is exactly what i said to him so maybe you should read whats said and not make your self look like an idiot by trying to make a post look smart when in fact its as stupid as they come.

Before you try to bring up that bs on erson posted that 1450 underneath the gold wrapper well i have 2 one has the same and the other has 1620 so it means nothing.

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[LG Optimus 2x] s3nr1:
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And reading your thread, eraldo, you've been biting peoples head off for criticizing the battery because of its size and capacity(that the 'tech' was not available to make that capacity stock size and looking at ebay they're right) then later in the thread you took a safe stance and admitted that the 2 batteries that you got for free from a refund(lol how do they stay in business, oh wait...) does not have the advertised capacity stating that "performs at least on par with stock if not slightly better", probably because of the links to other threads exposing this brand for never being as advertised. I do commend you for showing this image of a phone barely touched lasting those "two days of moderate use".

This is a much safer purchase: LG Original Optimus2X/G2X Battery + Charger + Cable it will likely perform at least on par with stock. heh.
[LG Optimus 2x] ringthar:
Allright enough guys... Get on topic again... Thanks :)
[LG Optimus 2x] PG101:
MODERATOR WARNING!!!

Alright boys, you have proven that yours is bigger than his.. Can we move along now?

Thread cleaned, but also marked, if I see more flaming, infractions will fly and thread will be closed...
[LG Optimus 2x] asdfasdf12323:
I alo bought one of these batterys and i can tell say last longer than the orignal one. I have no clue whether my orignal one is already a bit old but when i have to compair them, I would say the gold cab is better.

But i´m sure that the 2430 cant be right. Might be about 1800 or 2000 mAh.
[LG Optimus 2x] Puskash:
Further question and reactions

Hi there, guys.

Does anyone know [and would like to share its knowledge] about lasting time while using this gold-power battery within intensive gaming, and/or on 3G networks with GPS navigation?

@eraldo & nikolav75

Thanks for sharing this nice-n-useful finding, and your experience with this one. If it goes well with gaming and 3G, I will definitely buy one...

@asdfasdf12323

I thing that - even if its value is only 1800 mAh - it's much better, than the stock 1500 mAh, assuming that it performs as good as nikolav75 and others said.
[LG Optimus 2x] jazzymc:
I've purchased on of these gold batteries - 3-4 recharging cycles until now. What I'm sure it is not 2430Mah BUT it i a lot better than my stock one. I use my phone in office with very poor wifi coverage and with stock battery my phone hardly stands for 24h with all radios on. With this one it lasts for about 36h and more.

So for me it is 30-40% better than the original.

The performance is OK when playing games. I plat Shadowgun and the battery drops with 5-8% per hour no low brightness.
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
found a cheaper one here from HK seller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-2430MA...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item3cbe03dc56

is it the same item?

for $10, I really want to try it.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Looks the same, give it a go if you want.
[LG Optimus 2x] shaheedu:
Shoddy Batts From HK

I bought a three-in-one red-yellow band batteries from HK (eBay) at a steal. Didn't last long, everywhere I go I have to bring along 3 spare batteries.

Then I got a thicker 3500mAh battery with a thicker back cover. It did last long but it looks weird.

Next I got the gold batt that says 2430mAh. As they say, it is not really 2430mAh. Until now, I want to know is there any apps that can check on the actual capacity of the battery.

We use a smartphone that needs to stay smart, unfortunately the developer did a lot of ****ty work for the batts.

I am thinking of Mugen 4500mAh which should do the trick but again, it the thick ones that makes it look gay.

I say, buy the gold battery if you must, but make it two pieces because it trickles faster than the original one from LG.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Shaheedo I feel much the same as you do. Battery is horrible however that's nothing exclusive to just this phone, fact is we're topping out li ion technology at the moment.

The best thing ive done for battery life was to install cm7, stop using my spare batteries for a bit ( I think it confuses calibration) and calibrate battery. After a few cycles I'm getting basically infinite standby life, less than around 1% use.

On the bus/throughout the day with headphones for music, I manage around 4 hours screen on time, which is decent.

Changing mobile provider can also help battery life, rule of thumb, the lower signal you have the more battery you're using on cell activity.
[LG Optimus 2x] Divyan:
To this, I agree. Have been thinking of buying a higher capacity battery. Research on web is on..! Hopefully I will find a not-so-thick-but-higher capacity battery.
[LG Optimus 2x] KrisPK:
i will try this one GOLD-2430MAH-HIGH-CAPACITY-REPLACEMENT-BATTERY-LG-P990-OPTIMUS-2X-P990,will report later
[LG Optimus 2x] 16k:
sounds very dangerous.

I dont think it is very safe. It might blow up and then you will be all over the news.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone here owns one ? how long can it last, did any one test it ?

thanks upfront.
[LG Optimus 2x] shpapy:
yep... i got it works like charm, can squeeze about 2 working days(highest hour count was 46 hrz) from it. original battery can give me about 30-35hrz

dont really care about not heaving temp measurements

the things we need to suffer when testing technologies :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
This gold battery doesn't seem to have a temp monitor the software in the phone just displays the temp at 24.9c at all times but i can tell from touch it doesn't ever overheat even when its being used while charging.
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
I'm still waiting mine to arrive.
[LG Optimus 2x] Striatum_bdr:
I have a variable temp with this battery, so I think sensor is working, and capacity measures with battery widget pro report about 2300mAh.
[LG Optimus 2x] shpapy:
You can measure the battery temp? Isn't it always on 25. 1 celcius?

I got battery monitor pro what do you use ?
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
It doesn't have a temp monitor at all.

Look at your lg battery it has that little rectangle thing neat the gold connectors, this is not on any of the gold batterys.

My temp software always says the bat temp is 24.7 -24.9 which isn't right because iv played dungen def while charging i could feel it was warm but the temp remained the same.
[LG Optimus 2x] SuperSkill:
These also available on DealExtreme.com, free worldwide shipping and cheap....
[LG Optimus 2x] -sandro-:
I can't find it, where?
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Its not on dealextreme at all.
[LG Optimus 2x] orlroc:
any news for this battery????
[LG Optimus 2x] Striatum_bdr:
I have one Gold 2430mAh battery (bought on Ebay) for some times, and I'm not very sure of real differences with stock 1500mAh....

Battery monitor Pro says that I have a 2400mAh battery after calibration, going from 3348mV to 4185mV... Fine, bu it seems that drain is faster so I'm not convinced of real benefit...I have to charge my battery as often as before...

For my stock battery Monitor Pro says that I have a 1545mAh, with 3276-4185mV value ranges.
[LG Optimus 2x] shpapy:
i had the same doubts as you, until i moved back to stock rom/kernel combination.

i can squeeze of out this batt about 2 days of normal operation with BG sync.
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
and how much were you getting with the stock battery?

Its theoretically impossible to have a better battery in the same size with the same tech, its most likely a calibration issue that makes it seem like stocks worse. I get almost 3 days of normal operation with BG sync and 3 email addresses syncing every 30minutes on the stock battery and on the andida battery too .

interesting though if somehow its overcome this :D.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Thank you for applying some logic. No such thing as a 2400mah stock size battery. quality of materials used in construction is relevant, Chinese batteries may be made worse resulting in a lower capacity. the stock one is likely as good as it gets considering it's in LGs best interests to sell a phone with a large battery capacity.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
They are not the same tech, the stock battery is li-ion, this is lithium coated onto aluminium strips in layers, the gold battery is an unstable li-polymer battery this is lithium coated onto polymer and is compressed better but far more unstable, these batterys are used to remote control cars and planes.
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
arrived !!!

first impression, looks promising.

slightly heavier than stock battery.

will report back in a few days of usage.
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
How do you know this? i can only see " Li-ion technology" listed on the page? Its an interesting note but am i right in thinking li-polymer batteries require special chargers, i.e using this in a phone = kaboom?.

Im still very sceptical as i bet the andida battery used the same type of tech and was 2000mAh and made no difference... im pretty certain LG can make / buy better batteries than we can for £12, so ill wait till someone gives me proper solid evidence, not them simply switching over batteries and saying its better because at the end of the day thats changed the calibration :(.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Gee i dunno maybe because i own it and on the reverse it says exactly what i said and on the ebay page it also says its li-polymer.

I owned one for my old htc dream for nearly 2 years and it never exploded and iv had 2 for my o2x since i first posted this and still no explosions or war.
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
I sense a hint of sarcasm, my post was a genuine question as to how you knew it... and i now see the part on ebay even though i had to zoom in 200% on the rear image to see it just. Must say though that just because it has it written on the item doesnt mean its true same as the mAh on most batteries lol.

However if its looking good for you then excellent, keep enjoying the battery :).

I was put off after reading a few more threads and noticing the label is stupid, underneath it says a different rating O.o. I think its also important to note that comparing a "new" battery to the stock battery can be unfair as it has had use and will most likely have degraded a bit :(.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
All we have to go by is whats on the label but it being li-poly makes sense because they are cheaper to manufacture but yeah the label isn't exactly reliable considering but if you don't beleive some of it then you have nothing because without it, its just a blank generic battery.

What's underneath may or may not be its true capacity i have 2 and they both display a dif number could just be a factory code.

Anyway if my honest i don't get as much time out of this battery now that its been used a lot, capacity seems to drop over a short time compared to the stock, but i got a full refund and 2 free battery so i can't complain.
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
Indeed, being the cheaper way to make batteries makes it plausible :). Thats the main thing, drop off capacity with these third party batteries never seem to last long, ill admit my andida battery felt like it lasted ages but then after 2 - 4 charges i was worse off than stock :P.

Nice that you got a refund and 2 batteries! Cant complain when that happens :D.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
I have used my $2.80 batteries extensively and there is no drop off. Over 20 cycles.
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
could you please post a screenshot your $2.80 battery info?

I want to know how much mV at full charge.

thanks in advance.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
All same specs of stock, says 1500mah. Its only accurate to calibration though.
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
I meant like this one:

I'd like to know the full capacity at full charge.

stock battery is about 4150 mV at full charge.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Voltage is not capacity.
[LG Optimus 2x] kemmo123:
i have this exact battery and it is no better than the standard battery. battery apps show it is only 1600 mah.
[LG Optimus 2x] nippe:
Same here, it sucks! :mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] drpele:
I noticed these high capacity batteries doesen't last longer than stock battery. But they are good as s cheap backup...
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Update:

One of my $2.80 batteries "Replacement for LG P990 / Optimus2X" branded,appears to not be working so well anymore, charging is going really slowly.

Lasted like 30 cycles so still worth it for $2.80 shipped in my opinion, will be buying more and keep this one as a backup.

Moar edit: 2% after over an hour on charge.

HAH turned out CM7 was just playing games, pulled battery, held power button to clear any residual charge, rebooted, 56%.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Try recalibrating the battery. are you using the stock lg charger or a usb port?
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Stock charger. I don't want to calibrate because the calibration is set for the stock battery which lasts the longest and charges the fastest.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Well if you use a different battery it must be calibrated or it won't work properly.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Eh I'm wrong again, its terminal. For $2.80 its a bloody bargain but I guess the lifespan is only 30 or 40 cycles before it just starts refusing to charge.

I think I read something about "jump starting" batteries by essentially overloading them with 9 volts. Might be worth a try.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
While its inside your phone that isn't the smartest idea it could explode or just burst into flames.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Yeah threw it in the bin this morning. Decided if the charger wont even recognise it then it's game over. My phone seems to be having trouble displaying correct current charge though, CM7 glitch maybe? Can't help but feel the phone might have killed the battery by overcharging it or something. I did a dalvik/cache/battery stat wipe so I'll see what happpens.
[LG Optimus 2x] abram823:
I have this battery for about a week and it is not better then the stock one.

Maybe even worse. Probably its not 2430 Mah. :mad:

Can someone tell me which program can I use to find out how much Mah battery really has?
[LG Optimus 2x] tablighs:
AFAIK, there is not app that can really tell how much capacity a battery has. But there are those that can estimate how much a battery capacity is based on charge and depletion after usage.
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
if you bought it from ebay, ask the seller for a refund.
[LG Optimus 2x] CVonV:
i don't believe in measuring battery usage without 3G/data enabled

while i was holidaying in europe.. i had data disabled but 3G and only wifi.. i would get at least 3 days use with pretty much just texting the entire time.. and a little bit of wifi if there was a free hotspot around

but the instant i enabled data when i got home (with wifi on but no wifi usage).. battery was abysmal.. it would last 4 hours on heavy usage.. and maybe 6 hours on medium.. 8 hours on light.. this was on stock gingerbread.. even on stock froyo it was that ****

CM7 (temasek build 23) it's definitely better standby.. i could probably get at least half a day thank god on light use.. but even on heavy usage (by that i mean like plenty of camera and facebooking/web browsing on 3G) it's still pretty bad

PS how do you calibrate a battery or clear the battery stats? i've never done that once

anyways from the looks of it.. it's not really worth getting this particular battery when u can get the stock replacements for only a few dollars
[LG Optimus 2x] tablighs:
You calibrate your battery either by using an app like battery calibration, it requires root. Or clear your battery stats from cwm.
[LG Optimus 2x] CVonV:
clearing batt stats from spare parts? i'm a little bit lost sorry :confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Hmmm you were right hadn't tested it since froyo and the flash player that came with it which i remember it did work for 720p 10.3 i think it was.

Just tried it now and it doesn't work it lags, my mistake sorry about that you were totally right.

I tend to watch vids in the browser using html5 since im in the youtube beta and not sure what res its playing in but its very good detail and no lag.
[LG Optimus 2x] tablighs:
Have you rooted your phone? If you do, then you can clear your battery stats to recalibrate. If not, then it is not possible to clear battery stats.

You can go to android Market and download an app called Battery Calibration. Charge your phone to 100% and press Calibrate.

Another way of doing it, is to boot to cwm, and clear battery stats from there. If you don't know what Clockworkmod (CWM) is, most probably your phone is not rooted.

If you do calibrate your battery, you need to wait 3-4 battery cycles to notice any difference.
[LG Optimus 2x] abram823:
I bought it on ebay but i think I will keep it as a backup battery , any way I waited for it for 4 weeks.
[LG Optimus 2x] CVonV:
thanks.. mine is indeed rooted with CWM. i just cleared the battery stats.. but i don't think i needed too since i just installed CM7.2 temasek build 23 on it last week.. and i assume the battery stats will already be cleared
[LG Optimus 2x] IversGarn:
Installing a new ROM will not clear battery stats, it needs to be done manually using CWM or battery calibration app as mentioned by tablighs.
[LG Optimus 2x] CVonV:
hmm but i came from stock gingerbread and it was my first flash ever so i had to do all the wipe stuff?
[LG Optimus 2x] t0m2k:
possible to get this battery OEM??
[LG Optimus 2x] dragon911:
So the batter is made in China not Japan right.
[LG Optimus 2x] Scougar:
I have come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is this if you want good battery life.

Get one of those cheap extended batteries and covers. Don't bother keeping the batteries.. your going to through the cells away. All you want is the circuit it comes with to reuse and wrap up two oem batteries instead, thereby getting a genuine 3000mah battery (or even 4500 if you use three cells).

None of these aftermarket (even mugen it seems), are genuinely up to their claimed capacities. Even companies like duracell/everyready etc fall foul to high claims BS capacities.

In fact: If anyone has a dead double height 3500 battery and can open it up (BE CAREFUL!) and tell me what the ratings are inside, that would be a laugh :-) I might order a 2nd one myself to do just that :-) (And then I need to find a source of cheap genuine OEM LG batteries to Mod :-))
[LG Optimus 2x] plakers:
Bought a Mugen 1700 (a bit afraid by Chinese underground ones, even if the capacity is labeled so much higher! ;))

I noticed some improvements, even if it's a few %, they are always welcome... My ROM is KANG CM7 (temasek) and CherryPics Kernel (the latest).

To clear battery stats :

- Calibration Tool on Market (needs root)

- Charge at 100%, reboot in recovery/advanced : wipe battery stats

- Unplug and reboot, don't charge until it reach 0% and shuts down

My current battery life with this setup, and the Mugen 1700 is around 1,5 Days with light use (but 3G and DATA on!!! I don't think that "airplane tips" helps anyway, I want good battery life but still be able to use my phone/data as comgortable as possible)

My 2 cents... :)
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
The only similarity between Japan and China is their eyes. It's a whole different game from one country to the other. One has a technology industry that is the envy of many, the other tried to make some cars but they were so terrible in crash tests that no civilized country would sell them. Now you take a guess.
[LG Optimus 2x] grognaz:
and the stock battery is made in china.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
I know, very unfortunate, right? Whenever I can choose between a product made in china and a product made in any civilized country I go for the civilized country. Unfortunately capitalism (and consumer demand for cheaper products) makes companies shift their factories into these cheap labor havens. Hopefully human rights will eventualy kick in in these countries and this labor won't be so cheap anymore. You probably heard about the mass suicide attempt in an xbox factory in China, no?
[LG Optimus 2x] Pacas:
got one actually, my friend bought it for me, a little improvement on battery life not significant
[LG Optimus 2x] shpapy:
I'm getting extra 5-6 hrz which makes it total of 30 hrz which is more than enough for 10 euro

China or not China I really couldn't care less. Long live and prosper the capitalism!
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
You could be a writer :)

Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.
[EVO 4G General] Chaz187:
thanks for the post.
[EVO 4G General] jayharper08:
Nicely done Greg :D I will never forget that day. :/
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Thanks. Yeah, I'll never know a September 11th that I don't spend at least a few minutes in tears.
[EVO 4G General] IncisiveOne:
Great read, thanks!

Lynn
[EVO 4G General] runcool:
We then turned around and killed 50,000 of their people. Who's in the right? before they attacked us, the first bush attacked them. They were flat out striking back the best way they knew. I'm american, but I don't let the government blind me. Don't let them blind you. Btw, I didn't sit around the TV for hours on that day. I was Enlisted and serving this country in a location where communication isn't the best. If all of you really opened your eyes, this country wouldn't have ever got attacked. If I was on the plane and saw it being took over, I would stop them at all costs. Lets just be glad it wasn't a nuke attack. then I'd be angry.

We truely need to get along with our neighboring countries and stop fighting over resources. We also need to stop using so many damn resources. Cut down a lot. I predict in the near future where this great world is going to run out and billions will die.

No need to reply to my comment in hate or agreeing with me. We all have our own opinions, just some of our opinions actually have facts behind them. :-D Now back to our evo phones. :-D you guys rock. :-D
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
While I thank you for ur service...I damn u for ur liberal views and hope someone near u reads ur post and knocks the **** out of you. U truly r an idiot and deserve whatever flaming u get

free the dirk
[EVO 4G General] tim.tahtinen:
I will simply state that I thank you for your service to my country, and that you don't deserve the hate that has been and will be brought against you for stating your opinion.

For some reason, people forget that the United States is a free country and that citizens are entitled to their 'liberal views', if that's what they so choose.