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[Off-topic] Mustoura:
Point taken and yes i agree.

I missed that bit as I'm half asleep

Wow i just had a read over again i apologies that i missed that whole section lol sorry for telling you how to suck eggs
[Off-topic] Archer:
Heh. I have a sneaking suspicion that you're not the 1st person to comment on a post after not reading it correctly. I reckon in the history of the internet it's happened at least 3 times ;)
[Off-topic] mynamesteve:
Id like to see a major manufacturer do a little experiment on there next big handset.

Supply two different versions, one with there overlay and one aosp fresh from the oven, see which one sells.

I know they are only trying to add functionality to the device but they could at least write there apps properly so they dont cause wakelocks and hog resources, hell there's a whole forum full of very competent developers im sure would be happy to help ;)

@johncmolyneux

off topic but have you tried the latest Cm7 for the SGS2? the latest nightly is pretty complete, the devs have done a stand up job. Keep it aosp baby :D
[Off-topic] Archer:
I've not, but I've shied away from non-standard ROMs normally. After the very favourable MIUI experience I may well give CM7 a play. I did have a sort of CM ROM on my HD2 for a while, but it looked and played pretty much like AOSP, but was blue instead of green.

Thanks for the advice :)
[Off-topic] mynamesteve:
I was the same meself tried a few out and stuck with Villain, been testing CM out occasionally to see how development is going and very impressed! if i'm not mistaken Miui is based on CM so if thats working for you its party time :)

the main thread with the download link is in the Q&A thread in Q&A, just so you know ;)

Was rocking Hyperdroid Cm7 on my HD2 too so i know the feeling ;)

I think I just officially hijacked this thread! sorry OP :o
[Off-topic] wendellc:
That's why I have a g2x, pretty much vanilla android. But then again, just take all that crap off yourself or flash a custom rom.
[Off-topic] Overstew:
What would really be the difference in the phones if they were all AOSP? Sure they've got different hardware specs, but if all had the same hardware, it'd be nearly impossible to know the difference.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Actually, that is a very valid point. People would end up buying phones purely on colour and shape, if the hardware was close enough and they were all AOSP. I do like mynamesteve's suggestion of manufacturing 2 devices - 1 with their own software and 1 with basic Android, but I can't see anyone really doing that unfortunately. I guess there isn't really a practical solution to this. Not that I can think of, anyway.

Incidentally, I like your avatar. Homage to The King. He may be dead, but his burgers most certainly are not!
[Off-topic] mynamesteve:
Not sure you get it Sir!

aosp = stock android = no bloatware

Standard and fast for you to add what YOU want, not have crappy coded apps forced on you that are difficult to remove.

Simples
[Off-topic] Wilsonium:
I agree...

But I think this Operating System Fragmentation is a USA problem. Sure it happens elsewhere. The problem is the carriers use the bloatware and other specialty apps as a revenue stream. So far, Apple is changing that game and Google is doing what it can but with so many handsets and the open nature of Android it's really hard to control. I won't say anything about the closed ecosystem Apple has built vs the Android Market since both have redeeming qualities as well as flaws.

I have 3 phones on my account, all android. All were rooted on first day out of the box and had all that bloatware removed, including Inception which took up too much space on the memory card.

I wish the USA would take the approach found almost everywhere else. You pick your phone, then you pick your carrier. There's lots of great stuff going on elsewhere in the world like NFC, handsets that aren't gimped by the carrier... etc.

Just IMHO.

Cheers
[Off-topic] mynamesteve:
But really deep down arn't they all just android?

I will admit the overlays draw customers, I was drawn in by sense bk in the winMO days (RIP) but other than some fancy widgets its really not much better than stock.

I understand they get paid for most of the note/ereader/Doc Dre beats headphone rubbish that gets shipped so things will most likely not change :(

but thank you for treasures like this website.

I know tings i.e. rooting can be daunting for the beginner but if ya follow the guides and read, ya never know you might even learn something :eek: (John this wasn't directed at you at all just peeps in general i know your a kick ass developer, i read it bk n thought wtf lol)

TLDR:read it
[Off-topic] Archer:
To a certain degree, yes, but the SGS2 doesn't even have the stock Android launcher available, never mind the cluster of Samsung apps that everyone seems to be freezing straight out of the box. Samsung have pretty much made it their own device, which is obviously fine, and it's still a very stock-looking experience, but just freezing apps doesn't make it AOSP unfortunately.

I think (italics because I'm not sure) that a lot of people would learn more about their device if it was a bog-standard stock Android experience from day 1. They'd try different apps and launchers etc.. I've got a friend with a Desire HD and he's never even opened the Market app. He's 0% techie, so fair enough he's not gonna undervolt and overclock the thing, but he didn't even realise he had a satnav device! I don't want to turn this into a xxx manufacturer against yyy manufacturer, but certain other devices on the market are popular because of what they can do. I think Android is being sold short by not making it obvious how far it can go. That, I believe, is partly down to having a device loaded with apps that obscure the possibilities.

Rant over ;)

BTW, thanks for the compliment, but I'm simply a developer. This place has far more kick ass developers than me!
[Off-topic] xaccers:
I have to say, if it wasn't for HTC I wouldn't have an android phone.

Tried a Nexus ROM on my HD2, really hated it. Tried the SGS2, really couldn't get on with it (nice screen though).

I can understand and respect that many people do like aosp, and I'm glad that we have the options available to us.

My stock sensation is fast and sense 3 is lovely and polished.

I really wish carriers (apparently mostly in the US) didn't take a fast phone and turn it into something reportedly sluggish though.
[Off-topic] mynamesteve:
Sadly no it doesnt make it aosp :( and as the user above pointed out theres a lot of fragmentation in android, manufactures are messing with the core of the system and not just building an overlay/launcher.

Sometimes this works sometimes this doesn't i do feel alot of the resources could be used to better the stock system, better all round compatibility, better drivers and make android better for all there users. but thats like asking for world peace, and im no CEO of a major corp so what do i know :p

But i know how it works in the real world, i gave my sister my HD2 and she doesnt care what Rom is on there as long as it looks nice and everything is there out the box. (cant believe i gave her the most versitile handset on the planet with that attitude but thats beside the point ;))

The OS ease is very important to people and i understand that for a non-tecky, i think that is also part of the reason why we cant have stock out the box, the 'mobile market' needs the icon on his device to begin with so the manufacturers try to supply that, but do it very badly.

Phew! sorry about that.
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
I also much prefer AOSP.

I loved sense on winmo but I absolutely detest the android equivalent.

Touchwiz is just plain vile and as jcm mentioned the SGS2 is lacking that really stable aosp experience....

Luckily though if your unhappy with your phone and need to make changes then your in the right place :D

No I haven't missed the op's point about wanting more customisation out of the box but I just wanted to make the point that every single resource you need to achieve whatever you want to do with your phone (within reason) is right here under your nose.

I now have a rom for my phone that is (nearly) exactly how I want it, no Touchwiz, less bloat, all the cool little tweaks that our talented devs have given us and all it took was one day of reading and a lot of trial and error...... it was fun too.

Sure I cheated and used a kitchen but hey, gotta start somewhere right.

Anyway I digress, my point is that we can all wish for HTC/samsung etc to start catering for our every need until we are blue in the face but they won't.

Sometimes you just have to roll up you're sleeves and do things for yourself.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.......
[Off-topic] Archer:
And are you planning on releasing this? You've had my dev work. It's only fair I have yours ;)
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Actually I very nearly did but you know how many zip file heroes there are in that section. Do we really need another?

That and I'm too lazy to update it for each new firmware that trickles out.

I think I will release one though, probably with a very tongue in cheek OP....

And yes, I and a lot of others had many, many hours of enjoyment from your work so thanks for that :D

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.......
[Android Apps and Games] FireZenk:
Search for applications according to a detail in the Android Market.

Find what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.

The more detailed search of application that exists for the official Android Market.

Now find the app you want is easier than ever!

Also you can find us easily the developers your favorite apps just a click away.

Find even apps that are no longer on the market knowing the package name!

Knowed issues:

-The detailed search sometimes does not filter properly paid apps (only with the app not the web market)

DOWNLOAD: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.firezenk.msplus
[Android Apps and Games] oleerik:
Awesome idea! I have a problem with it tho - it takes me to the market frontpage no mather what I do in the app :/
[Android Apps and Games] FireZenk:
Version of android market please?
[Android Apps and Games] timmymarsh:
moved at OP request.
[Android Apps and Games] howluckyareyou:
Does this work on the new market?
[Android Apps and Games] FireZenk:
Works for me using version: 2.3.6
[Android Apps and Games] FireZenk:
Tested on new Market version: 3.1.3 and it works :)
[Android Apps and Games] TylerBetable:
This is a cool idea for coders & developers, but do you see this applying to mainstream users? If so, how?
[Android Apps and Games] FireZenk:
Except for the search for "package" the rest is simple and easy to use ... :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] TylerBetable:
Haha I am not talking about ease of use, though it is good that this is easy to use. My question is more: what would general consumers use it for?
[Android Apps and Games] FireZenk:
-Replace the original search for a more detailed and effective.

-Access the search without having to open the new Market takes to load both
[Android Apps and Games] edweder:
this is a god idea
[Android Apps and Games] MMFreax:
Perfekt good works
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
Hi everyone,

As i am un junior member i can not post on developpers wall so i had something to tell badnews and faux.

I am running insertcoin, i tested the 2.3.4 version and 2.3.5 version.

I also tested faux kernel on both version of insercoint and it appears that faux kernel works properly on insercoint 2.3.4 stable version.

But there is a problem with 2.3.5 Insercoint version, incompatibiliy ou what ? i don't know ....

I can not run cpuspy on 2.3.5 insertcoin version. :confused: and at least i found 2.3.4 version a bit faster than 2.3.5.

So i decided to go back to insertcoin 2.3.4 version with faux kernel on it untill the incompatibility is fixed.

See you.
[HTC Sensation] geoffcorey:
Seeing as how we don't even have kernel source for 2.3.4 yet, it's no surprise that 2.3.3 kernel source doesn't work for a 2.3.5 based rom. And since a sensation 2.3.5 rom isn't even official yet, you should be expecting a lot in incompatibility.
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
Hi geoffcorey, i saw that the lastest faux kernel are for 2.3.4 .... look at the details ! and it works great with 2.3.4 insertcoin version.
[HTC Sensation] velazkool:
ok baad just post, the update for 2.3.5 and faux kernel 0.1 everything runs smooth, really fast...
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
don't understand why 2.3.5 version doesn't work as well as 2.3.4 for me. It's is not as fast as 2.3.4 for me.

Maybe i did something wrong then ?

Here is what i did.

I wipe all with a superwipe i found on leerdroid wall then i flashed with 2.3.5 insercoint and at least i instaled faux kernel. But it is not fluid, there is some little freeze in the carrousel ...

@velazkool : are you runing insertcoin rom ?

Someone can share the correct file if my leerdroid superwipe does not correspond ? thanks
[HTC Sensation] geoffcorey:
They've been tweaked yo work with 2.3.4, but it's still built from 2.3.3 kernel source.
[LG Optimus 3D] AntonioAugusto1010:
Installed netflix from the Market on my new Optimus 3D Rogers Unlocked and no luck... ; (

Closes by itself once you open... Anyone has it working?? How to??

Edit: Got running from a LG Revolution dump but no stream since apk was too old and video not supported on older version. Trying to get an updated apk from a LG Revulution...
[LG Optimus 3D] Cthater:
I want to know as well. It works on my Streak perfectly and now with the Thrills HDMI out I would love to have Netflix on it.
[LG Optimus 3D] adixtra:
Maybe try

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13792287&postcount=1
[LG Optimus 3D] Cthater:
I know I can change buildprop and change some code lines but I don't want to root the phone. Oddly enough I'm trying to see how long I can go without rooting a device. LOL
[LG Optimus 3D] AntonioAugusto1010:
Ive tryed that, no luck...

Think im just gonna have to go through the whole app and see if i can find something or see if i can get an apk updated from a Revolution...
[LG Optimus 3D] cproaudio:
Just saw an entry on Engadget that Netflix 1.4 supports all android 2.2 and 2.3 so I installed it from the market place. I ran the app but closes imediately. No other tweeks expect for rooting. I tried rebooting the device but still no luck running it.
[LG Optimus 3D] amp_bell88:
Same here. Netflix just doesn't work on the thrill at all
[LG Optimus 3D] Cozzeck:
Works on the recent cm7 release!!!!!
[LG Optimus 3D] sbrownla:
hmmm

Hm ... so I guess we just have to wait for something from LG if we don't want to root. S'ok, I've got my trust HD7.
[LG Optimus 3D] cproaudio:
Just got an update and now it works.
[LG Optimus 3D] QuintusDK:
Any luck with this? I really would love Netflix on my O3D.

I've tried 2 different apk, 1.4 and a 1.4 without device check but both of them closes right after launch.

I can't find Netflix in market either.
[LG Optimus 3D] Cozzeck:
You have yo download the 1.4.1, it's on the market.
[LG Optimus 3D] QuintusDK:
Can't get it in market. I live in Denmark. I did however find the apk in another place. It still closes right away though.
[LG Optimus 3D] cproaudio:
Netflix is US only paid service. Not sure how you can get it to work in Denmark even if you get it to run on your phone.
[LG Optimus 3D] QuintusDK:
I already got it working on my desktop. And I believe the app "set dns" would help me on the phone.
[LG Optimus 3D] sshukrun:
What did you get an update for?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bycoo222:
No down load mode phone stuck in endlless boot loop help i used glitch kernel and miui
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhoenixPath:
Would love to help you. Would also love to know which version of glitch/miui and what you've already done to try and troubleshoot.

We're not mind-readers here.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
So when you pull battery and hold volume down, the phone won't go into download mode?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bycoo222:
no it wont and im running miui 1.9.2 and glitch 11.1 ive tried to get into recovery and only got boot loop also tried booting regularly and got boot loop and try to go into download mode and only get black screen nothing else odion wont recognize my so i know it isnt in download mode
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efan450:
Remove the battery and then re install it but don't power up, plug in your charger and let it sit...does anything happen?

Idk why but a while back I had an issue like this...I was running cm7 and went to enter recovery via power button menu like you're supposed to, and got a boot loop and no matter what I did that's all it would do, no download mode, no Odin, no recovery..even tried three finger booting to recovery which your not suppressed to, but I remember in my ways of trying to trick it into download mode I found if I pulled the battery and then put it back in and plug it into the wall charger it would try to turn back on (something that happens on cm7, but i'm not sure if this happens on miui) but for some reason after doing that it still boot looped but when I tried entering download mode after that it worked! Was able to Odin back to stock and flash back to cm7..same build I was on before and never had the problem again our figured or how it even happened or why.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bycoo222:
how are you supposed to reinstall tho i have like no menus
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efan450:
You could try what I said, even if you still get a boot loop, then pull the battery and hold down volume while plugging into PC and see if you can get download mode..if you still can get into it you may have to get a USB download jig..just google it, they're a couple bucks or you can make them..if it's your last resort
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bycoo222:
ill prob have to do that but its better then no phone thanks a lot for all the information and help
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shag_on_e:
Similar to what the previous post says, take the battery out, plug wall charger in outlet, hold volume down then plug into your phone. If download mode comes up, pull the USB cable out of the wall plug and plug it into your computer. If it doesn't work, try the program Heimdall.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bycoo222:
I ended up having to use the program but It works now thanks for the help
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Nitin985:
The best one I've found so far is the grass live wallpaper. The colours really pop. But I would prefer a static one.

Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] hjuo:
Try twisted colors, it's very vivid especially the red. And it's black so in theory it saves battery
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Archer:
Get your search hat on and go look at these....

960x800 images, for scrolling wallpaper

480x800 images, for non-scrolling wallpaper
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Nitin985:
anyone know how to get the htc live wallpaper on the sgs2
[LG Optimus 3D] shollywood:
Does anyone have stock ROM's for AT&T and Rogers?
[HTC EVO 3D] coffeehandle:
Here is the systemui apk

from Myns Warm ROM. But you can edit any ROM with a method ill hopefully put up soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] shiftr182:
I think the clock is the fusion.apk...unless your talking about the lockscreen.
[HTC EVO 3D] coffeehandle:
No at the stat bar. I never even thought about that. Ill try it and report. I wanna make a simple method for people who like it minimal and without messing the overscroll and animations

EDIT: Changed OP
[HTC EVO 3D] steal25:
the clock in the status bar is an edit in the status_bar.xml in systemUI. where did the M10s come from that you linked to?
[HTC EVO 3D] coffeehandle:
Ah! Well it's not from there. I'll get it up asap. I'm fixing to teach my class
[HTC EVO 3D] coffeehandle:
But it came from the fusion apk
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffgman:
What is the difference between VZW Location Services and Google Location Services?

Thanks,

Jeff
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmlusco:
Not to be a smart ass but ones from VZW and ones from Google. Lol, I'm pretty sure thats the only difference.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unimatrix725:
That was fairly obvious!

Been reading up on it myself and google brought me here. Thought I may learn something new. So Far I have learned:

VZW Location Services provides location data to phone/apps via Cell Towers (Useful if indoors), GPS location data when a clear line of sight to sky is available (Will use more battery power as it is a seperate chip/component) and Google Location services uses a Wifi Network "Guesstimate" (the least accurate of all three). What it comes down to is accuracy and battery life/usage.

Go with vzw services if you want accuracy and little battery usage, however if you keep wifi on allot (or have eg Juice Defender Installed) use Google. Most of time I use Google. I am however on the paranoid side as it is. I read where a Verizon Tech stated that you can be located within 2-10seconds with that enabled. However if I were up to no good I would simply remove battery, just bothers me my phone company knows where I am. They sell that data possibly more, yet do I get a discount for that?

I only use GPS when driving.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
I think you've got it a bit mixed up. There's a few ways our phones can get location information.

Think of it this way.

--- satellite GPS = Your phone connects with satellites to determine the location. It can pinpoint your location within feet if it has a good enough lock. You can still get locks indoors, and yes it does use a considerable about of battery if you use it continually. If it only turns on for about a minute just to get a single lock on your location, it really has no impact on battery. If you run it for 20-30mins+ is when you start to notice. You have the option to completely turn this off if you want. Really it's best to keep it on, because your phone will not actually turn it on and use it unless an app tells it to (like navigation).

--- WIFI GPS = Your phone can determine your location by using the WiFi the same way you can go to http://www.geoiptool.com/ on your desktop and it can get a generic idea of where you're at (usually not more specific than the city you're in). Google likes to use this because it needs some sort of location information so it can best provide searches and advertisements. This is the least accurate. This also has an option to be turned off.

--- assisted GPS or aGPS = your phone uses the network you're on (in this case, Verizon) and it can give a rough estimate by triangulating your position through nearby cell towers.

It's called assisted GPS because it actually helps the 'satellite GPS' by letting the satellites know the general area of where you're at, so it can get a lock quicker and with less battery.

Assisted GPS does not require any additional battery or wait time because your phone is already connecting with those towers just by having a signal (the more towers in your area, the smaller area it can guess you're at)

When you first start up a GPS application (or if you disable the 'satellite GPS'), you'll see a circle around a very wide area. This is what the radio tower/VZW/assisted GPS is. Then after a minute or so, it'll lock on, this is the 'satellite GPS'.

Also there is a separate chip in all phones that determines your location if you dial 911. You can not turn it off, and I'd imagine that the government could use it with reason. If this is in use there should be an icon that pops up, you've probably never seen it.

If you're worried about your location, the only thing you can do is turn off your phone or remove your battery if you're really paranoid.

All this info is to the best of my understanding.

Hope this clears it up.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rabbot:
I just joined to say thanks for this. I've been searching forums for this, and could only find half the info or smart @$$ responses on other sites. I've been searching for possible bugs and battery drains ever since the ics update and the media app smoked razr maxx battery and burned my phone to the point where the back turned brown.