yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Yeah, I've gotta figure out how he made that recovery.bin file. I have a wild-ass guess, but it doesn't make sense.

Edit: Well, I can boot recovery by 3 button .. but only recovery. hrrm.

edit 2: so jt helped me out. I think I know what to do, but i'm not sure I like it. It seems like if we flash a bad kernel, we'd lose any form of recovery short of download mode..
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
Is there any good way to test what voltages are stable? I've tried going on performance and then just cranking the voltage down little by little seeing how much it could handle but I think a lot of crashes happen when changing voltages between steps. So i'm not sure how to best test it.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
https://gist.github.com/1280009 #8
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
You're pretty much spot-on so far actually. Keep notes, they'll be your best guide.

Edit: After Six's sage linkage, that is...
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
... "salinkage?".... no?
[Fascinate Android Development] Chuban7:
idk if this was posted already, i read the past like 10 pages but http://rootzwiki.com/topic/5926-con...e-samsung-fascinate-to-best-development-idea/

sixstringsg you won the fascinate from adam outler!!
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Holy ****. Congrats
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
w00t!!! Above all, have some much-deserved FUN with that thing.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Well thank you. Hopefully I can help y'all and ssewk2x out more now. We'll see how much of what I want to do is possible.
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
That's awesome.... Well deserved. i don't know of anyone else who can do more for the fascinate who does not already have a fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
I'm not sure about the other ones that was in the contest but you truely do deserve it. You lead a great example. Look forward to all your deviations. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
I have faith in you..
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
fitting that this is my 1337th post lol
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Just about anything is possible in software. It's more a matter of what's feasible given you're time, knowledge, and willingness to risk screwing the pooch a few times to get there... ;)

Glad you're getting a sassy fassy, six. It's the "unbrickable" one, right?
[Fascinate Android Development] baron4406:
What's wrong with the kernel updater program? I try to run it and it simply greys out, I have to hit the home button to get back to the home screen. I'm on CM7 build #98

EDIT- just needed to update the updater! Problem fixed
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Just sent a pull request related to 3 button recovery :) Got it working just now on my phone. Fascinate only, unfortunately.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Not really unfortunately, all the other devices have had three button working since CM7 first started.
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
I'm not getting this?
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
Basically followed that guys thread and basically he used 2 stability programs... which I both used and they came out stable but my phone still wasn't stable... for cm7 he said he just uses moboplayer and plays a high-res video... and also benches it on this game. I don't know it just seems like there must be a better way :/
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
If there's a better way, go ahead and use that. Our team been testing stability on kernels for months, so believe me we've tried everything in the book. Also remember that we're the only kernel that people can achieve 1.7Ghz on, so I think we know OC pretty well. They can all succeed, but then when you run the mobo player test, it fails. If you want stable OC, that is the best way to do it.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Rofl, well, then I stand corrected. Glad to be wrong about that, for sure.
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
What sort of video would you recommend playing in mobo player? Or does it matter?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
It has to be a 720p mkv. Other than that, after 20 minutes, you're stable. So anything longer than that.
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
Does it matter if it plays with sound or not? I soft-decode the video which fixes the sound for about a good minute but then the sound turns off again and the video plays all stuttery.

Also, when it's not stable would it reboot the phone? Or just crash the app?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
More than likely freeze the phone. OC does all kinds of wonky stuff sometimes though. Always remember to make a backup before playing with OC. As for sound, I don't know.
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
Yeh I don't know what to do. I have 3 .mkv 720p videos.... 1 artifacts... and the other 2 are fine...
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Then the bad one probably had some kind of error in encoding.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Is this only able to install if we buy the app? Or soon it will be released?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
As has been stated: you are always welcome to build it from source. For now, it is only available via the app. The official release will be free, soon, and has significant improvements over the RC. If you buy the RC, you are not allowed to put it in Espresso until we release it to everyone on XDA.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
What are you not getting? The 1337 thing? or the image itself?
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
Both
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
The image is just a party. A fun party with hottish girls.

If you look up "leet" or "1337" on google or wikipedia, that should fill you in on that.
[Fascinate Android Development] bigmike88:
it's a sexy party, one of the few episodes I've seen.

Btw, has anyone experienced anymore sd card failures? Had my first after running the rc 13 for about a week, was able to reformat on a computer, was even able to back it up after my phone supposedly chewed it up and spat it out. All good now, but don't know why it was all of a sudden 'corrupt' according to my mesmerize, and not my computer.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Now I'm pining for the CS beta days when everyone was puzzling over the "one-three-three-seven krew" team...
[Fascinate Android Development] LetsGoBlues:
I have had an issue with cwm being able to mount the sdcard. I have tried reformatting through my computer and sdformatter. I have also tried using a different sdcard with no luck. I will eventually return to stock and work my way back up but right now I am enjoying the PoolParty rom and the Glitch kernel v13RC.

I am able to read the card on my computer and through Root Explorer. I can save files and downloads and read from the card but for some reason cwm cannot mount the sdcard.

If anyone knows what I can do differently please let me know.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
There quite a few CWM changes for V13 final, we'll see if that fixes it.
[Fascinate Android Development] LetsGoBlues:
Awesome. Can't wait. All you guys who work on this kernel keep up the good work.
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
Looks like I'm stable with this...it's hard to believe you can become unstable by changing just one by 25mv though.

http://db.tt/NcsRfRlo

For example if i were to change 1200 to -150 it would be unstable. mobo player worked well.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Doesn't surprise me at all. We're mucking about with Dark Forces here .. going places where even angels may reasonably fear to tread. In other words, tweaking our phones like this is some serious voodoo black magic .. it's no shock that if we give the capability to push stuff to the very bleeding edge (and over) that some people will find that edge in some pretty weird places.
[Fascinate Android Development] drnihili:
So you're saying that 25mv is "wafer thin"?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I don't see where you see "wafer thin" but 25mv isn't very much.
[Fascinate Android Development] drnihili:
Gratuitous Monty Python reference.

Basically the stability function is locally radically non-linear (esp. catastrophic). Hence the result of a small change in mv may be an outsized change in stability depending on one's location within the function.
[Fascinate Android Development] exzacklyright:
Lemme guess.. You're an engineer? :D
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
It's getting awful deep here...(TRANSLATION) Don't do too much or your stuff won't work... ;-)

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] drnihili:
Nope, worse.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Sounds like a math teacher to me...
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
So if I understood that correctly, it's a smarter way of saying that tweaking core voltage affects not just the cpu, but how it interacts with the various interconnected subsystems; ergo we're affecting other "unseen" variables which explains the potentially drastic difference in results between seemingly-small voltage tweaks to a "hub" component. Yea? Nay?

Edit: removed incorrect refs to gpu.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
No,, voltage control values effect solely the voltage to the processor. Nothing to do with the GPU or anything else.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
My bad, was thinking frequency instead of voltage for a sec there. Removed gpu from it, talking voltage only.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
well I switched over to jt's 3fingerfix kernel today...reason being, i rebooted my phone and randomly got stuck at the glitch screen. i was going to go the adb route, but that takes longer to setp the first time than odining back to stock lol. Now im gun shy and dont want to be without three finger capability again. Please get three finger working on glitch so I can switch back, ill donate more $$!! Thx
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
We fixed that a few days ago for V13.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
really? my app must not of updated yet...thx
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I never said we released it a few days ago to the app. Just that we fixed it a few days ago.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
ahh my mistake...thx six!
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
I had that problem a few Weeks ago.. Damn bootloops.. It was random too.. Anyway, i could have fixed it with the bad 3 finger recovery but miui needs you to set superuser permissions before having root.. What i did was wipe data and flash glitch with the blue recovery, this got me booting but into force close hell. I could reboot recovery from the setup screen i was stuck on, butttt needed root access,.... Thanks a lot stupid Chinese miui superuser app! I ditched miui after that crap.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
this was my next step before going all the way back to stock, but the problem was lastweek after flashing jt's 3fingerfix kernel, I flashed back to glitch to see if the settings would stick(didnt think they would, just wanted to see for myself). Then tried to 3 finger and all that would happen is the phone would boot normally. So when I got the random bootloop this morning, I three fingered and it kept booting into the bootloop lol... could not get back to any recovery, so going back to stock was my only option at that point. I was going to try adb recovery, but I needed to get to work and sdk takes forever to setup the first time if you have never used it before...so yea.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Just a heads up, depending on what OS you're on, there is a script to install it for you.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
ok ill look into that. thx!
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Ubuntu/other Debian *nix: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/361-linu...b-installation-script-testers-needed-updated/
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
this wont work for windows 7 will it?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Windows 7 has a .exe for the SDK I believe. Does it not do all the work for you? I don't run Windows 7, so I don't know.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
yes it does. I was confused on what to edit in the enviroment variables. Just pulled up a youtube vid on it and all should be good now. thx

---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 PM ----------

Got it working...flashing back to glitch wohoo!!
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
For future reference, it's also decently laid out in the CM wiki, though the environmental variables they list for PATH are slightly off; the default install directory has apparently changed since the wiki was last updated. I see you're already set, but for anyone else setting it up on Win7, you may need a tweak in gpedit.msc to prevent Windows from deciding it's smarter than you and auto-installing an incorrect, generic Samsung WHQL driver as soon as you plug in; the semi-related Windows Update option doesn't always prevent auto-installs. Run an instance of gpedit.msc with admin privileges and enable the policy, "prevent installation of device drivers not described by other policies" by default. Disable it ONLY when you're installing/upating a driver and re-enable when finished. Yes, you can also let Windows do it's thing first and just manually replace the driver file afterward, but you don't get the reassurance (if a driver issue indeed pops up) of knowing that Windows DEFINITELY didn't install something without your knowledge (like arbitrarily deciding to "update" to its preferred driver after a reboot).
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
A word about the 3 finger recover thing. Jt's zip file flashes both a recovery image and a supporting kernel.

The recovery image is flashed to the recovery partition that is booted when you do the 3 finger method. The image, however, does not actually contain an mtd-compatible recovery (for some reason, it can't). Instead, it contains a "decoy kernel" that sets a flag in /data and then boots the main kernel.

The main kernel (the one we're always flashing and modding) then looks for that flag, and if it is there, runs recovery instead of the ROM.

A consequence of this is that if your main kernel is somehow hosed, you no longer have the option of going back to 3-finger-land and fixing it. You must Odin/heidmall a new, working kernel or the old recovery.bin.

This is why, when v13 comes out, there will be a separate zip that flashes the "decoy kernel" only. I figured some people might not want to give up that extra later of safety, so it will be optional whether you want the 3 button fix. The new glitch kernel should work fine either way.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
This is why, regardless of when v13 comes out, it's a good idea to donate to / otherwise support active and innovative dev teams.

Seriously, you guys are spoiling us. Gonna be REAL hard to switch phones when the time comes; I've been nowhere close to that sentiment in over 10 years of mobile usership.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
I did infact use the cm wiki...as previously posted, I didnt have time yesterday morning to set it up because I had to get to work. Going back to stock was faster at that point because I never used adb. Lastnight, I actually sat down after reading six's post and the cm wiki combined with the youtube vid made perfect sense. Had it installed in no time at that point. also windows 7 did install some generic driver that wouldnt recognize my device, so I had to manually push the google driver and everything works perfect now. Good info you posted none the less, Thanks!
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Edit 10cha
[Fascinate Android Development] CrucialBT:
Hey guys, when i attempt to browse or install the latest RC though the glitch app i'm getting an error (looks like when connecting). Anyone else getting this error? Or is this because you guys are updating the RC kernels?
[Fascinate Android Development] joshkoss:
i'm getting the same yea :rolleyes:
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
The hosting company threw a fit and suspended downloads. I am fixing it right now, be back up shortly.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
So just some results I have gotten over the last day or so. I'm on a Mesmerize ML RC1 and the CM7.1. I disabled the screenstate scaling and then set my CPU settings to this:

Smartass

BFQ

200-1200

-100mv on each step.

I have had the best performance/battery life I think I've had yet out of this phone. I could get great performance and decent battery or great battery and decent performance but never really could get both. I don't know if this will help anyone else as everyone will see a different result with settings and such. But figured I might as well share them as they might help someone. As always great work and many thanks to all that has worked on this kernel. I check everyday for updates and new releases. I'm officially a Glitch/CM7 addict. :)

Just another post from a CM7 junkie.
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
I bought the app from the Android Market so I could get v13.

I tried auto and manual and couldn't get anything going. It would say downloading zip for awhile then it was do a 3 second countdown to reboot. I searched around on my sdcard 5 times over.

I can't find any downloaded zip and the auto isn't installing it.

I went past the 15min so I can't get a refund.

I been up a few hours later then I wanted to be! Going to give up and go pass out.

Please help!
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Hang in there for a bit. If you read the thread (the post above yours, in fact), you would see that there is a known issue with hosting that the App's developer is working to address. My guess is that it will result in an update to the app (to get it to point to a new download host) at some point, and then you'll be able to get your kernel. Since I'm not that dev, though, and since we all know the taboo dealing with ETAs, I can't give you an ETA. Just keep checking for an update and/or keep trying the download. It will come back eventually.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
It's fixed already.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bubbadogg14:
read 2 posts above yours. Wow man read before posting please the answer was in front of your face literally the whole time!

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
I am not getting any error and wasn't before. It sits at Downloading zip for awhile and then it says its Done and the reboot occurs. It happends on Auto and Manual. I just tried again after reading that its fixed and still not getting the kernel.

I don't see it on my sdcard either. Does it just download to the root directory or does it download to a folder?

I just cleared cache on the app and uninstalled. Re-downloaded and trying it all again.

I read the thread for almost an hour before deciding on the purchase. I was up late and was exhausted by the time I posted. It didn't dawn on me at the time to read the thread because I just wanted to post and get to sleep and hope to find an answer in the morning.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Based on XDA"s rules, I am not allowed to answer your question here, as I have stated before. Post in the app thread and I am more than happy to help you with your issue.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
:eek:

...and this, folks, is why devs leave xda.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Actually, I think most of the problems here on xda can be best summarized as cases of people taking themselves far too seriously.

It's the internet, people - lighten up and roll with it. Jeesh! ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] joshkoss:
on topic guys... we need kernel dev stuff posted :cool: let's keep it friendly :D
[Fascinate Android Development] LovellKid:
Im a +1 on doing everything possible and not getting the kernel to install in recovery. Says it downloads fine, reboots into recovery, and aborts installation. I try manual install of DL'ed kernel in CWM and get same installation abort. Tried all three (HL/ML/LL), wifi and on 3g. Cleared data, uninstall/reinstall, etc.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Logs or I can't do anything about it.
[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
Enjoying v13 rc1. Just wondering, what type of changes can we expect with the final build? Any cool code merges or improvements from JTs kernel?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
There will now only be one build, and you will be able to configure the leakage through recovery. We also have a new recovery again, the three button fix, and other things that I can't think of off the top of my head. RC1 had quite a few little nit-picky bugs that we've since fixed as well, like the keyboard popping up when a call comes in or in low signal, and sometimes the touchkeys froze.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Sweet. Can't wait man.

Just another post from a CM7 junkie.
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Does voltage control or glitch v12 have any effect on camera?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Well technically a kernel has everything to do with a camera, it has the driver.
[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
awesome. Can't wait till it comes out on the app. Is there something that's being worked on specifically that's keeping it from being released?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Glitch has been super busy, and we're waiting on one little piece before pushing. It works for everyone except Fascinate at the moment, so we're waiting to do a release for that.
[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
Gotcha. Thanks for the update.
[Fascinate Android Development] stalls:
Dude six ur awesome an everyone else!! Thanks!

Hey idk if this has been mentioned an I keep myself glued to this forum.. But I had the phonecoma (sod) prolly cuz it was UV'ed to low anyways jus out of normal muscle movement I pressed the power button an Swyped my lock screen off an noticed the screen didn't come on but was fully functional.. I could lock it an unlock it every time.

I'm running the

v13 LL RC kernel with conservative screen scaling..

Didn't know of my info would be any help
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Ok, so if it has to do alot with camera, how would one " fix" ? Seams the display is "off"...
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
That's awesome there is headway on keyboard popup
[Fascinate Android Development] timmymarsh:
lol, glad to see you guys are back on topic ;)

THe 'post' in question has been removed.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
Wow! I don't know how I passed this crazy good news over! I really really love this kernel!

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] tripacer99:
So what's the latest nightly we can safely flash that wont have v13 rc going bonkers on us?
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
I can only speak for myself, but I've been running V13 RC1 HL on fascinatemtd nightly 108 since this afternoon with no issues post-install. I was unable to move up from 105 without wiping all 3 (wiping just cache and dalvik prior to flashing left me in a bootloop), but that was the only hiccup. FYI, I am not running any "optimization" scripts or whatnot, just Nightly 108 and RC13 HL OCed to 1200Mhz and a small .5mv UV on each step.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Amen to that! What really gets me are the "little" considerations like adding an option in recovery to wipe both caches in one step. Sure, it's no ordeal doing them individually, but it just makes the user experience THAT much friendlier and more intuitive.
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Can anyone tell me the stock voltage settings on a fascinate?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
What is your definition of stock?
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Oh sorry, umm, what phone runs out of box, not rooted. I took a Verizon I500, froyo, now running cm7...,2.3.7.....with glitch v12 ml. And now trying to figure out and set voltages