yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pnonu23:
Thanks for the knowledge but, Im a computer tech. so Im very knowledgeable on RAM and internal memory, if you scroll through some of the post here and I've been quoted on a post that they have managed to have 160 (RAM) free at times, therefore Im wondering how I can do the same...with EU version I managed 99mb RAM free upon 1st boot tmous is 74mb w/app2sd what are you all doing to get it @ 150 or 160mb (RAM) even my EVO 3d fresh install is around 100

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also glitch fix for EU version doesnt work @ all 4 me, everytime i flash I get stuck @ the 1st htc boot black screen

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& when i try to reinstall the Rom again from zip it aborts, so I have to delete it & copy it back on sd, any 1 else have a problem with the glitch fix causing a dead boot
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Being a computer tech then you would know what determines the available ram in a system. The fewer programs running the more available ram. I have 140 right now...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
I don't know if the statement that you're knowledgeable about computer terminology and then talking about RAM with app2sd go together. App2SD merely moves the storage location of the programs so that they do not occupy physical phone storage. Its like a striped drive able to access extended physical memory. So App2SD merely gets rid of the "your phone has low memory - uninstall some programs" message. Like Gabriel said, RAM varies with how many programs are running at one time, etc. I've personally never gotten to 160 MB. The max I've seen on my phone is about 120 MB. After a memory boost, it usually gets to 105 MB and settles down to about 90 MB.

Again, programs like App2SD allow you to have more internal space on the phone, while scripts like SuperCharger allow you to have more running memory. I guess I'm still not sure what you're referring to - storage space on the phone, or running memory on the phone for different applications.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Here is a recent screen shot of my phone. Look at the white widget in the middle left of the screen, you can see the amount of free ram at the bottom of that widget.

I use memory monitor.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
Nice balmy 76 degrees! Its gonna get to a low of 42 here. :rolleyes:

What widget is that?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
That was a cool night! it's 79 here now...

Lets see, Temp + CPU V2 from the market (free)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dysprosi:
The clock widget with weather? That's a standard HTC Clock widget. Pick the clock and scroll over a few selections.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
Ahhh no.. Gabriel got it. We were talking about free memory and he wanted to show his values. But I appreciate the jumping in and trying to help! You have the making of a true XDA member. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pnonu23:
Its funny how you can give advice and dont know what your advising, and you still dont give proper advice... For 1 Im speaking 1st boot RAM ... must I say it again RAM on 1st boot so that tells you i havent installed any apps... in all my post I refer to RAM on 1st boot, and I also know wut app2sd does which is why it is used to free up RAM as well as internal memory, if all we had to do is go to titanium back up and uninstall apps already cooked on the rom to free up Ram then what do u think the use of app2sd would be...Sometimes before you start an arguement know wut your arguing about, how could you not know wut im talking about and its the topic of discussion
[HD2 Android NAND Development] djgboy:
well i have 200 free Ram on mine i am using autokiller memory aggressive 82.90.98 and taskkiller
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Who are you talking to here?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pnonu23:
and we use app2sd 2 free up RAM by putting system files on EXT
[HD2 Android NAND Development] djgboy:
@Gabriel51 are you using A2SDGUI Cuz i am not and i have 200 free ram
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
No I'm just using memory monitor on the standard TMOUS install.

It's not set to aggressive and i see anywhere from about 50 to 160 Mbs of ram. After all the programs are loaded (which is not many) I have 163 Mbs of ROM remaining.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pnonu23:
djgboy thanx for the advice, Ima check in to your method, I really wasnt expecting a pep talk about RAM and internal storage, & Gabriel not getting smart with you, you said nothing wrong I just want to make sure you know that Im talking Ram...2 the other guy who responds & jumps in and still doesnt know what the topic is. I want to know what you all was doing 2 get 160mb of Ram free Im not talking internal storage cause I got plenty room
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
You mentioned 1st boot, I install all my apps on the first boot so I may have missed that. (meaning my apps are installed by the time I reboot).

However it seems you are thinking that installing applications on the extension frees RAM, when it doesn't, it frees ROM.

The installed applications consume the same amount of system memory (ram) regardless of location when running with-in the core kernel (common)or outside of it for that fact.

The only exception would be a stand alone application which is executed when initiated and I have to say they are extremely rare (in my world).

Hopefully your question and any skepticism about this actually existing is clarified through the above explanation and the screen shot of it in operation.

Hope this helps....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] carl1961:
yep a lot get confused with the memory stuff

Memory	512MB internal flash ROM (1024MB on T-Mobile US version)

576 MB RAM

(Software is limited to using 448 MB on non-US versions, and 128MB is reserved for 3D Accelerator) custom rom's unlocked this 128 for EU phones so they have the 576 Ram

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_HD2

beside all the techy stuff I installed the 1.2 EU ROM fresh, wiped all.

Took these before and after app2sd

also, the script dungphp uses, create's a symbolic link on /ext partition for the /system files and apps so you do not need app2sd moving them, just removing app2sd you gaing a 100M
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vonstarr:
Help: Can't Install :(

Hi all.

I was so excited to see this development, especially paired with Haldric's graphic fixes. I was so gungho to try it, and downloaded the rom, task 29'd, reloaded MAGLDR and Clockwork Recovery v4, only to have the following message come up:

E:Error in /sdcard/DesireS...zip

(status 0)

Installation aborted.

I redownloaded the rom and tried again, this time getting the following:

E:Can't open /sdcard/DesireS...zip

(bad)

Installation aborted.

Can anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? :confused:

Thank you so much!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] carl1961:
reboot and try again, CWR will do that somtimes

so alway reboot after doing anything else diffrent
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vonstarr:
I've tried that, and unfortunately, not only is it continuing to happen, but any other rom I try to install is aborting as well. Phone isn't bricked, since I'm actually in CWR choosing the zip from the sdcard. The roms just won't install!

Edit: Phone boots SD roms; just won't install the NAND roms through CWR. I task 29'd again and started from scratch, and same result. Please help!

Edit 2: Thanks all. Issue was the SD card. Formatted and repartitioned with CWR and everything solved. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DJW6927:
I'd have said flashing a winmo stock rom might be a good idea to really really really start over again maybe? At least you'll have a phone that works again.

And if you can't flash a stock winmo rom then you really got trouble.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ra6o74:
After installing CWR mod, you should flash a proper system partition so NAND rom to be installed on it!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] carl1961:
reformat your sdcard with CWR
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ric69:
Hi all,

Can you tell me if you have weather big icons on your widget ? After 2 days with this fabulous rom, applied some tweaks (Hieros kernel, Runny keyboard etc...) I think I lost those icons :p

[edit]Ok Tks Zahurtex, just reboot and they appeared again ...strange ^^
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Re-booting should solve this problem... I also had this blank weather thing but booting gets it cured.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
just xda search the kernel you want

flash the rom dont reboot flash all the fixes you want dont reboot then flash the kernel then reboot, if it bootsloop reinstall the kernel and it should be fixed.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pnonu23:
I got the same thing but when i try to install the EU version, I believe it may have some bad files in the rom or the partition is wrong. but I installed it yesterday with the same partition and it worked now it doesn't. I found out the hard way when I was no were close to my computer. But if you have A HD2 Leo just install the tmous version reformat sd card and redo recovery tmous is 5/435/5 but if u have EU than re download the rom do a clean install and try 5/160/5 for the recovery or 5/165/5 either way it goes u have to reformat sd card and copy and paste rom back on, or your gonna keep getting installation aborted
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dungphp:
Uploading DHD sense 3.0 Android 2.3.5 ! (7 hours to complate) + Runnymede
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Thanks! I am really happy with the Bliss's sense 3.5 now I am confused ... but will give it a shot anyway... is there a new thread for it or you going post here.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sachin kundu:
DungPHP u are amazing !!! And ur roms too ....

Thnxx for ur gr8 wrk !!

:d
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Isn't the HTC Runnymede with sense 3.5?

I have read in the device details which is still rumoured its with sense3.5 and spec. is quite high with 1.5ghz processor and 4.7" screen.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pgriffith:
Wallpapers etc etc

Hi guys, just updated to this ROM, seems great so far.

One question, is it normal to not be able to see the wallpapers when trying to view from either the HTC wallpapers or the Live Wallpapers, all I see is a blank grey square where the preview should be ?

Cheers
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sachin kundu:
Open wallpapers and press windows key on ur device....noe select as grid/list view in wallpapers and scenes,,,
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Yes, its greyed out its normal.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ric69:
Have a look at this post, a few page back :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17565973&postcount=1366
[HD2 Android NAND Development] andrisk73:
Excellent work, thank you.

Looks all things is working on EU1.2, but little bit too slow for me.

Dungphp I know you’re doing amazing and hard job to make all running on HD, but is it possible to make it faster in future?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dungphp:
Runnymede is from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1261721
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ra6o74:
OK guys! I've tried every possible kernel and with non of them GSP got working. Rom is fast(proximately), stable, BUT Bluetooth, Power menu, Camcorder glitches and now GPS - it is too much. Great work, but I want everything working.

I'll follow the threat and wish all those problems to be fixed as soon as possible!:)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Ok, is there any particular reason you are not including sense 3.5? as this links rom also runnymede with sense 3.5.

By the way this is actually the Runnymede device's spec.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_runnymede-4161.php
[HD2 Android NAND Development] edward3120:
can't wait to try on the Runnymede Rom:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sachin kundu:
W8ng for this sexy rom.......

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Beats audio will work on hd2 ???
[HD2 Android NAND Development] xetro:
Sorry missed that. Could be that 3.2.0.1 is better or maybe try 4.0.0.0 or 4.0.1.4 ??

I had problems with cLK and 4.x so downgraded to 3.2.0.1
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
ROM OVERLOAD! too many roms to few htc hd 2 devices
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Is that a typo? Sense 3.0?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
I asked him that but he didn't reply. Now that you have pointed out it could be a typo.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Display	Type	S-LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors

Size	480 x 800 pixels, 4.7 inches (~199 ppi pixel density)

- HTC Sense UI 3.5

- Accelerometer sensor for UI auto-rotate

- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off

- Multi-touch input method

- Gyroscope sensor

- Touch-sensitive controls

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I also read that older phones can be upgraded to sense 3.5.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Yep, thats the specs. of HTC Runnymede with sense 3.5.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
I love getting slammed... Not! Try to help out a fella, and they come back being snarky. Oh well. Moving on. :rolleyes:

Isn't this the problem where if you have both the clock/weather widget, and the weather widget then the icons disappear on one of them? Rebooting brings back icons on one, and then they go away from the other. There was discussion on this a few days ago.

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I'd like to know if our graphic glitches continue with this series too.

By the way, I saw a few guys from here do a post on NRG's ROM thread. Not to hijack Dung's thread, but did anyone try out that Sense 3.0 ROM? Were there glitches on that? Somewhere along the way I read someone say that glitches were part of all 3.x ROMs. But NRG doesn't mention it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
1- I don't know about the clock widget as enjoying now that new Quick Launch widget of the sense 3.5:D

but weather widget do lost those icons but thats also not too often.

2- Regarding nrgz sense 3 rom which i flashed lastnight and came back to Dung's Bliss this morning ... its with no graphic glithes and thats because of that fix added to the rom which I can notice from the slow menu animations of android.

Edit**

I applied graphic glitch fix from the link on first post and now the rom is glitch free and all is well except just the slowness of the menus. The trick to apply that patch is flash immediately after the rom flash (before first re-start) and you will have no problems and glitch free rom.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] neerajp:
Slow ROM?

I flashed this ROM on my EU HD2. It booted up well, however the ROM is horribly slow. It takes about 6 to 7 seconds for every menu to open, app to load.

Also I have only 54 to 60 MB RAM free always, without any running apps.

Have I done something wrong? or is this slow for everyone?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
you did something wrong, I would start over. Task 29
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
Just so I don't misunderstand you - you're not saying that if you apply the glitch fix that way then the rom won't be slow anymore. Right? No matter when you apply the fix, it still slows down the rom... At least that's my understanding.

Now for the slow question - how slow does it really get? Enough to be noticeable? I know its a personal preference, but do you (and others who have done it) think applying the fix is worth it?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] stirkac:
it shows slideshow instead of quick animation (try to imagine 3fps). actual activity that you are doing isn't any slower, it just renders slowly. that's because this "fix" disables accelerated rendering on UI as far as i can understand.

hope this helps ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
My hero! Thanks for the cLK tutorial! You are the reason I went to that bootloader. :D

Thanks for the above explanation. With the device a little slow anyway, any more slowness sounds intolerable to me. :eek:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] stirkac:
anytime ;) glad i could help :D

i guess you're luckier than most of (EU) hd2 users, we have to use ext which makes it even slower. sdcard is fast for single file R/W(like those in benchmarks :p) but system must access lots of files at the time so there is laaaaag on anything that is not in ram/nand. switch over to CM when you're tired of lag, and hapily got back to sense in few days for eye-candy and features ©stirkac 2010-2011 :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] nikc0069:
Just got back from my holiday, and flashing this on an eu HD. Currently staring at "Processing System: Please Waiting" for quite a while (following a slow crawl on the progress bar in CWR) - is this one slow to flash?

Have 5/160/5 and 1gb ext2 on a class 4 card that has worked well before. Just wanted to make sure I was being impatient and not that anything had gone wrong.

EDIT: Just a loooong flash :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Saint George:
The bluetooth problem stems from hieros 1.7.5 Kernel. Install 1.7.2 kernel instead (same thread as 1.7.5)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pgriffith:
Exchange Security

Hi All

Has anyone got a patched mail.apk for this ROM so as to bypass the PIN requirement.

Haven't had much luck removing that myself with Sense ROMs, non Sense no problems.

Cheers
[HD2 Android NAND Development] anikolop:
I think it is the official update, from htc, for desire hd.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] maviay001:
Will we wait more?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] yossiv69:
Thank you

Great version

I enjoyed every minute since I installed the version
[HD2 Android NAND Development] haldric:
nrg use my fix without mention it,without even a thank

but that's the life ,iknow that some people are not as polite than i am.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
Ahhh! Man that stinks. But NRG has never believed in attribution. There are dozens of posts in the TP2 thread I used to follow where a now banned user (Joe Bleau) hounded NRG to give recognition to developers (but mostly to Joe) on the pieces of stuff NRG put in his roms. That's just not NRG's style, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Don't worry though - we all know what an amazing contribution you did for the HD2! :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
It looks like he recognized you;

"Credit: DFT team, Cotulla, Tytung, dsixda, Rafpigna, dungphp, haldric, HierOS, Virtuous Unity, amresh, orkorolev, cypis...."
[HD2 Android NAND Development] swiss420:
Technically he does by saying - And all other great devs that share their work for free! And I think he even mentions you else where. I think no one here would want to deny you your well deserved thanks so to lessen the pain I will donate something to you. And thanks again for providing us all, with this.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
Good find, Gabriel. I suppose I should have done some research before mouthing off. :rolleyes:

The story of Joe is true, though. Those were some days. Don't wanna go through that again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
No problem, maybe he just posted that not long ago?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pereira6david:
Have the same, just go in mount and storage in cwr, unmount your sdcard and try again. It should work.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] weezybaby307:
sry for the stupid question

which cwm version ? mb should i use for eu hd2 ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
(CWR: 5/160/5 + EXT2/3/4)

Just about any CWR, you can go into the zip and modify the flash file.

For example the 440M below you would change to 195M, save and install CMR.

You need to create a partition on the SD card through CWR for what you think you would need, probably 2048M.

misc ya 1M

recovery rrecov|ro|nospr filesize recovery-raw.img

boot yboot|ro 5M

system ya 440M

cache ya 5M

userdata ya|asize|hr allsize

Hope this answers your question...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] NRGZ28:
Don't worry man. I'm definitely very grateful for the fixes you made. But you shouldn't look for thanks from the chefs... We merely put these packages together for the users to enjoy. You should be happy when the USERS recognize your great work, because that's what really matters, in my opinion :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bipinsen:
Now that's recognition! If only you had been as kind to ol' Joe.... :p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] THANHVO31:
My wrong post.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] NRGZ28:
Joe was a major pain the ass. It's not just the fact that he kept hounding me to give "credit", it was mostly because he was just a nuisance to everyone else in the thread :) The squeeky wheel got the ban hammer in that case...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] internauta2000:
I have been penalized before to forget giving credits to developers ... I am not a Senior Moderator / Developer Recognized... :eek:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Baadshah555:
I want to ask something.. What does this Means " EXT2/3/4 "

I have made the EXT partition through CWR of 2048.. Now, what does the Ext 3 and Ext 4 means.??
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
The partition you made through cwr is Ext.3 of 2048mb... now the ext2 or ext4 are same as ext.3 but you create them on your computer via easus part manager or similar app.

Tech. Definition:

EXT 2 fs - A non-journaling file system. It's quicker than EXT 3 and takes up less space for itself in memory (not for files, just for itself), but it's more susceptible to corruption if you randomly turn off the phone while a file is being accessed.

EXT 3 fs - A journaling file system, which means that it keeps track of any file operations within itself. While it's slower than EXT 2 and takes up more space, it is more reliable and is safer in terms of file integrity.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Baadshah555:
Hey, Thanks for Reply.. But, is this necessary to make other Ext2/4 partition other then Ext 3 which I make through CWR.?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Zahurtex:
Absolutely not.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Baadshah555:
Okay.. Then, why I'm having very slow ROM.. I have flashed this ROM, Now, when I got to menu or Phone it take 5-7 seconds to open.. And very Slow..

What could be the reason then.? :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] eterno13:
You are doing something wrong cuz the rom is very fast try cwm repatition again
[HD2 Android NAND Development] carl1961:
bliss is better to me, runny looks more like old desire HD, both have same animation
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dysprosi:
Tried HeirOS 1.7.5 w/ BT fix kernel. Everything seems smoother and snappier, but still no Bluetooth :(

Link to kernel: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17501037&postcount=83
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seaman2k:
pls can some one give us HeirOS 1.7.5 clk for bliss rom cause i cant make it i have problem in fastboot on my win 7:mad: ..i appreciate
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Here; it is on the first page!

http://ul.to/j6a0zlkj

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Did you try "Desire HD 3.06.405.1 - Sense 3.0 - Android 2.3.5".

More RAM, more ROM, Bluetooth (so they say). Gallery not working right, but it is pretty slick and fast. I like 3.5 better and 2.3.5 better also.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] protomanez:
Explain your procedure of installing the rom. Have you done a full wipe? Try applying a task29 wipe.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seaman2k:
no i asked for HeirOS 1.7.5 clk not tytung 12 clk

thx anyway that u try to help me
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Gabriel51:
Oops

It looks like you will need to compile it;

Look here; http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16950633&postcount=1
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tdizzle404:
Sorry I didn't see a answer but is there any way to switch to 2g mode my phone reboots when in 3g