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[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schahr01:
I suspect there is no easy reg hack for this since the first account that was added is deeply entrenched within many components... marketplace, xboxlive, etc.

Did you try to add the new live account and see if the option to delete the first one becomes available when there are 2 live IDs?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churchwa:
Yes, unfortunately it treats the first one in a special way, only giving you the option to not sync email. Any additional accounts are treated just like a normal exchange account with Contact, Task and Calendar all options.

Looks like a hard reset is the only way.

Is there an easy way to backup text messages in Mango?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PsyCLown89:
A quick slightly off topic question.

If I were to hard reset my phone, what would happen with my phone being unlocked? Would I have to do anything after the hard reset?

I would imagine so, but am unsure...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JM|Tomi:
Hi there,

I have upgraded my x8 to GingerDX v013 and performed a full wipe. Then restored contacts from SD card and tried to add some contacts to favorites but it does not work.

What I'm doing is a long-tap on the selected contact, and then select add to favorites, but it is not added. Other way: I select edit contact and then click on the star it becomes yellow but as I go back and edit the contact again it is grey again.

Does anyone have this problem on v013?

Thanks,

JM|Tomi
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JM|Tomi:
I found this: Viber is also installed on the phone and I can only add contacts to favorites who also have Viber. Viber puts an entry in the contact details if the contact also has Viber, maybe that makes something wrong or... good. :)

So the summary is that I cannot add contacts to favorites who does not have Viber.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JM|Tomi:
Latest:

1. I deactivated Viber, but still not working.

2. After that I have uninstalled Viber, still not working.

3. I re-imported contacts from the vcf file on SD (I was in a worry to have duplicate contacts but luckily not :) ) and now everything WORKS.

Question: what would had happaned if I re-import the contacts again before uninstalling Viber? Now I will try to install Viber again and see if I can add favorites or not.

Interesting story.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JM|Tomi:
This is my last message in this thread - at least I hope.

I have reinstalled Viber and now everything works fine. It seems something went wrong during the import of contacts from SD card after the upgrade to v013 and full wipe.

The problem is not reproducable now, so the thread can be interpreted as closed.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I'm a system tester maybe that explains. :)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lsalamun:
Please use Edit option and don't spam like that! Read rules carefuly before posting. Thanx!
[Acer Iconia A500] mdabar:
Hello, I think this is one of my firsts post (maybe not the first) in XDA, althought I was registrered and following discussions several months ago now :-P

I have a Liberty Tab (from Packard Bell) which is exactly the same that the ACER Iconia Tab A500.

I was happy enough with my tablet, nonetheless I missed some functions, so I decided to install a coocked rom on it.

I tried Thor Toshiba Thrive v1.1, which was nice (specially because it has many apps from different roms) but too many FC and very slow, at least in my case.

Then after reading other many posts, I decided to try Taboonay (installing first v1.1 and then 2.0) and it works really well, I like it. I just miss some games that were pre-installed on my tablet when I bought it (like Hero of Sparta, Lets Golf,...) but I will download from Aptoide, so no problem hehehe

FINALLY, my question is HOW to get the 3G USB modem (from Huawei) workingon this rom? does anyone know how to configure it?

I could do it with Thor Toshiba Thrive rom, and now I want to do the same in here... but for the moment no way.

I don't find the answer in the forum, neither can post in developpers forums yet... so pleeeeeease help!

Thanks in advance!!!
[Acer Iconia A500] mdabar:
It's me again, and still not able of making the 3G USB modem work.

I cannot post into the Developpers forum, so please if anyone can, do it for me. I want to use my tablet with 3G again! hehehe

Thanks in advance!
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1138051

Go hear, somewhere it was talking about 3g and the module to add.
[Acer Iconia A500] mdabar:
it's the post I was reading, but it's toooooo long

I will try to find something again :-(

thanks in any case
[Windows Phone 7 General] vicious2500:
Almost a year later Microsoft will be properly training sales reps on how to use & sell WP7.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/07/microsofts-to-finally-educate-retail-partners-on-windows-phone/
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
They should just employ existing users as training won't be enough for many sales reps (e.g. that HTC rep interviewed about the Titan on Engadget).
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...it's a good start...but it' not far enough... Microsoft, the OEMs and the providers must release "catchy" ads which clearly show all the wonderfull things you can do with the device, how "hipp" you will be with your friends and familly and where you can buy it and what to ask for.... ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
hhmmm

So, microsoft will turn around the salespeoples' opinion of wp7, and weed out the bad ones, and have good marketing in place by the christmas shopping season ?

I doubt it. Sounds like they've only acknowledged a problem so far. Look for real changes from the slow moving giant in january, when no one will care.

Kind of reminds me of those center isle people that spray me with perfume insttead of asking first. Ugh
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Ads should be just like the iPhone/Windows 7 ads where actual features are demonstrated. Anything else won't get much attention.

The problem is Mango not being out yet, so these sales reps won't be trained until the iPhone 5 and tons of new Android phones are out... at which point they won't care about their WP7 training. It's a loop of fail.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...maybe Microsoft, the OEMs and the Providers team up to allow the sales staff some cash-incentives or sweepstake promotion to "convince" the sales reps to have a closer look at WP7....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avatar28:
I think they should offer them free phones. There will be at least some who would take them up on it and I'm sure they could write it off as a promotional expense anyways.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The problem is the phone is supposed to save us from our phone.

Your idea works contrary to that. Apple markets to that crowd: people who are glued to their phones.

Microsoft's marketing basically states that they want you to buy a phone you don't have to be tethered to. A phone you shouldn't have to use all the time. A phone that lets you get on with REAL LIFE. Newsflash, for a ton of smartphone users (esp the younger generation) REAL LIFE involves being tethered to a phone... Microsoft's marketing failed to appeal that that huge demographic. Apple and Android Ads are going for broke, though... Microsoft Marketing for WP7 seems like it was tailored for 45+ business people, whilst pushing a social consumer-centric smartphone. It makes absolutely no sense...

It runs contrary to what you say. They should have just done it the Apple way.

The big mistake was releasing the OS early. They should have waited 6 more months and released it with half the Mango features baked in. That would have, IMO, attracted a lot more people.

Now, a lot of people have the thought of a half-baked OS that can do basic functions, and it will be hard to shake that.

Also, you cannot really change the Reps' minds. They will probably agree with the trainers in a training setting, but once the customer walks through the door they will push what they prefer to push anyways.

Microsoft's marketing has it wrong. You cannot market a phone to save us from our phones. People can get that by buying a feature phone that isn't pushing everything form every social network or chat service to their phone every minute of the day. Or a dumb phone, even. Smartphones are popular because people can do most things on them. They're popular precisely because their addictive due to how much you can do on it. The nature of a smartphone, IMO, guarantees that you will spend a large amount of time actually using it. To suggest otherwise, makes no sense.

When you market a smartphone that isn't THAT, you're telling people you want to sell them a boring device that won't allow them to get as much done (that may not be the case, but that's how many consumers will interpret it), and it will have the opposite effect.

I actually think a lot of that happened with the Microsoft Marketing.

They need to get front and center in stores like Best Buy. Have displays in Carriers stores - especially i.e. AT&T and/or Verizon (and maybe T-Mobile if they will allow them to compete that hard with their MyTouch and Sidekick series devices).

Interesting fun adds that tell people the phone is fun and they'll want to use it all the damn time, not the opposite, etc.

Really, where Mango is taking WP7 is a complete 180 from their marketing (integrated social networks, facebook/windows live all baked in, Bing functionality that lets you do virtually everything, etc.). I don't know why or how they failed so hard on the marketing front. It's like they were trying to convince people NOT to buy WP7 devices.

That being said, the commercial where the woman fell in the airport staring at her Blackberry was still funny as hell.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
They will just sell them on Craigslist. You can't extort support from sales reps. What are you talking about. Sales reps are not evangelists, and should not be treated as such (even tho they act as such in many cases, not in WP7's favor). That's clearly anti-competitive, as well. Carriers and competing platform OEMs alike would strongly object to that behavior. It can possibly get them in trouble.

A ridiculously large majority of sales reps are avid iOS/Android users, supporters, and advocates for lack of a better word.

I go into carrier stores all the time and I've had reps in T-Mobile stores especially flat out tell me the HD7 was crap and they would never recommend I get a Windows Phone. Yes, in those direct terms.

Others are so passive that when customers come in with negative pre-concieved notions about the platform and state misinformations in front of them, they make no effort to correct them - maybe they know no better themselves, though.

Ask them to walk you through an Android or iPhone, though, and they have no issues. They'll even tell you how to root your phone and recommend the best home screen replacements, among other things...

Maybe we should all go into carrier stores and record this happening and post it to YouTube, we can start a Twitter trend! Lol, just kidding...
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
@N8ter

...what you say in your 2 posts above is true... Although the basic concept of Microsoft's idea to "free" peoples from their "phone addiction" is a positive way of thinking, it is allmost impossible to re-educate peoples from bad habits. Social networks like Twitter, Facebook and SMS make people believe that they require immediate attention and reaction in order to be part of the game. It is very funny and sad at the same time to observe people getting totally nervous if they don't see any new messages on their phone for a couple of minutes... Maybe the governments should request to put warning stickers on the phone:Addiction to your phone can be dangerous for your mental health ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
LMAO, yeah, I agree with what both of you said on this. The problem is most people don't like being told they're addicted to something even if it's a cell phone/social networking site/etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
It's actually a quite frequently observed failure on the part of client marketing team/agency creative folks miscommunication. What the agency probably got in the creative brief was an assignment to create a series of attention-grabbing videos with a "creative" catchphrase that would convey the "glance and go" message, which Microsoft people decided was all-important. This idea could only come from people who know the product well. Of course they didn't mean that you needn't use your phone anymore, what they meant was that you may now spend much less time with non-productive overhead stuff, and do things easier and faster and so on. The problem is that the message is being communicated to people who don't know anything about the OS, and therefore would have absolutely no clue how this "glance and go" will happen, or why it is even important. But "how" and "why" weren't in the brief. And the agency listened to their client and decided not to argue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...the main problem with the "Really" and "Me" ads are that they are not "selling"

a product. This is the big difference between the Apple and Microsoft strategies.

Apple has the product and the sales outlets. So for them it is easy to advertise their products.... Microsoft on the other hand has only an WP7 operating system and no specific "Windows Phone". Microsoft can only advertise the nice things their WP7 operation system can do, but this is just a system and not a touchable object. It's like going in a shop and asking for a computer or a TV-Set....

This is why Microsoft needs to team up with the hardware makers and the carriers to advertise specific products which the consumer can go to a shop and ask for: "I want to see the Samsung/HTC/whatever Focus/HD7/whatever"
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
I wouldn't agree with that... Microsoft don't make PC's, just the OS that run them. But the Windows 7 ads worked because they were showing people what you could do with the OS (the "Windows 7 was my idea" ones). People thought that looked cool and knew what they wanted before going into the shops.

Same goes for Apple, most of their ads cover iOS and iOS apps, it's only with the iPhone 4 that they started insisting on things like Retina Display. Most of what they show is the OS, not the hardware. Microsoft needs to advertise the OS and actually show what it can do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Advertising an OS is still possible, but the current form is basically promoting a very unclear solution for a non-existing problem. This won't go anywhere.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Microsoft can't do "just" that. Ms loves to put long, wordy names on products. "Droid Does" was a brilliant campaign, like the product or not. Can't believe ms didn't learn from it. It displayed the os's capabilities, and gave the customer the easiest one word request that equalled sales: gimmie a droid !

Walking into a store and having a customer be expected to remember " gimmie a microsoft windows phone seven samsung focus - the newer version" isn't going to work. "Gimmie an iphone" proved this also.

Drop the marketspeak, drop the 20 syllable phone phonics, and drop the suits. Apple sold billions with kids dancing with their device in hand. Du huh ?

Androids sell because -everyone- recognizes the name and google. That, and there are 30 to choose from at the stores. Names like g1, g2, nexus, bionic, thunderbolt... no one cares who made it, or embellishments in wordy names.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...I don't know if in the UK you get your load of Apple TV-spots for the iPhone as we do in Germany: "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone..." It shows the actual phone and what you can do with it. This is what matters and this is "hard selling"... If Microsoft does something similar (as they are still doing), it shows nicely what you can do and how simple it is, but it is not backed up by some specific devices. With Apple, the consumer knows he has to ask for an iPhone, with WP7 he has to ask for a vague "Windows Phone" .... For Android, the makers advertise their specific models but are not talking about "Android Phone"... And this is the big difference which really matters...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
You dismissed the part where I was talking about the "Windows 7 was my idea" ads. These were very effective without mentioning any specific computer or manufacturer. All they did was showcasing the OS and it worked!

Some examples:

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[YOUTUBE]oLJgf3qtIMI[/YOUTUBE]

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[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I know exactly what they meant. I don't any explanation.

The fact and the matter is that it flew over people's head and that message was so vague that it was basically ignorable.

Also, the ads were not attention grabbing at all.

This is great Advertising, IMO. It totally grabs your attention and gets the point across. It gets right to the point, and it doesn't feel like it drags on forever. It's hillarious, too.

See here:

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The Microsoft Ads were nothing like that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I got your point and you're wasting your time even bothering with responding to that other person. It was obvious.

WP7 is similar to iOS in that hte launch devices all used extremely similar hardware configurations. Microsoft could have marketed it like an iPhone and every ad would have been legit.

The crap about "Microsoft is marketing an OS, Apple is Marketing a phone" doesn't fly. WP7 is not Android. Microsoft dictated the launch device specs so tightly that they were all basically the same thing. The user experience on literally all those phones were pretty stock and unmodified.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...I think that here the situation is quite different. Being a leader on PC OS, you can do some purely PR ads to promote an Update for an already leading OS. And chances are that any new buyer will get the Windows 7 pre-installed anyway, whatever PC brand he is buying...

...with WP7, Microsoft is starting from scratch in a environment which is dominated by Apple and Android. Here it is vital to tell the customer what to look for and where to find devices with WP7....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
You don't get it, do you? Do you seriously believe that ads like these that showcase the WP7 OS wouldn't work because there's no mention of device?! What planet do you live on?

These Windows 7 ads made people want to use Windows again which was a though job after Vista, that has nothing to do with Microsoft being a leader on PC!

For WP7, you just want to make people think "ok cool, I would use that" and then leave it to the Carriers and OEMs to deal with specific devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Agree. A Spider commercial for the Samsung Focus would have rocked, Lol, or something similar to it. Instead, they just showed a home screen panning up and down, stuff like that. You have to draw people in, first impressions are lasting ones. Samsung did it right. They focused on the main asset that set their phone apart from the competition (the screen) and ran with it. Microsoft needs to try to do something similar to that, and then make a commercial for a few of those bullet points.

Good things to advertise would be Zune/Zune Pass, the Messaging Hub (SMS + WLM + FB), perhaps IE9 in Mango (emphasis on speed, standards support, it's ability to stream audio in the background (my Andorid FroYo device can't do that), and perhaps SkyDrive Integration.

OEMs can't really focus on the hardware, because Microsoft is limiting them quite a bit on that front. They can't push the envelope there...

The problem with the WP7 commercials was that they weren't really targetted. They were often vague and overly general. The Windows 7 commercials were very specific. They spoke about specific features and tended to focus on that one feature in that one commercial. I think they need to do that again.

Also, a commercial emphasizing the fact that Microsoft "started over" after WM to do WP7 probably wouldn't hurt either. They need to get it out there, because there are still a lot of people who think WP7 is the next version of Windows Mobile, when it isn't.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...sorry to contradict you. Microsoft dictated the minimum specs and this is a good thing they did, because the user experience is the same lag-free and smooth on all WP7 devices. Ask Andorid users if they feel the same for their devices. Some are working alright and others are laggy as hell... Why do you think WP7 is leading by far the polls for customer satisfaction? The problem is that not enough consumers can enjoy the WP7 experience so far because of the unsufficient or wrongly directed marketing efforts from Microsoft, the OEM's and the carrier.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
This I agree except that as far as I'm concerned it's all Microsoft's fault. Let me give you an example. Imagine two ads for Mango/Tango/Apollo.

- The first one shows the HTC Titan in all its glory, all about it's large screen, 8MP camera, solid build, classic boring stuff.

- The second one shows someone being able to chat using any IM client right from the messaging hub without switching apps (and bragging about it because... why not?) on a generic Windows Phone.

Which one do you think is more likely to attract an average user to the platform? The HTC ad tells you nothing! The choice is pretty obvious.

Now imagine a series of similar ads, each showcasing a great OS feature. Do you really need to have a HTC/Samsung/LG name attached to these?
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...I think a combination of both would be perfect. I believe that we as savvy users are of course more interested in the OS platform and its pro and contras.

Despite how important we believe we are, we are actually not exactly the target of those advertisings. Microsoft, Apple and the makers try to focus on the majorities of consumers who don't have been in touch so far with a smartphone. This is actually, I would say, 95% of the potential market. The marketing has to catch the attention of those masses and those peoples have to be told what's good for them. This is actually one of the key recipes of Apple's tremendous success of the iPhone and iPad, if we like it or not: "if you don't have an iPhone....." therefore it's nice for Microsoft to advertise the advantages of the WP7 OS, but they also have to tell the consumers at the same time where this can be found....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
I think you're getting it backwards. The savvy users will pay more attention to hardware stuff (dual core, HDMI, NFC, etc.) whereas most people will just care about the OS features. This is why iPhone ads worked from the get go, it was all about what the phone could do rather than what it was.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
This has been one of my pet peeves about WP7 from the start. Great OS, lousy name. Just imagine the potential if Microsoft had gone with a simpler branding. I think just calling it "Metro" would have been brilliant. It's short, catchy, and sounds "hip" without sounding too casual to turn off business customers.

Every time I show my phone to someone, their first question is always "is that a Droid or an iPhone?" Then they look closer, and almost every person says "oh, it's a Samsung". Then I have to correct them, and say, "no, it's a Windows Phone", which usually gets blank stares from people.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I didn't say it wasn't a good thing. I simply said that the WP7 devices are so similar that they almost mind as well just be one device, so the idea that Microsoft cannot do it Apple-style because there are multiple WP7 devices and only one iPhone is stupid.