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[Vega General] yani2000:
I did a little research on "point of view pro tab 2" thru Google and came up empty (except for deal offerings).

I, personally, would avoid this tablet. On google I didn't find a single forum/board about this tablet, so atm the developing community is nonexistant, so you're getting a slim chance to ROOT your tablet and get the "Google Experience" TM --> Market, GMail, GTalk, Maps,...

If you really want a decent 7" Tablet then get an Archos A70 or its clone Prestigio PMP7070.

Archos also has 10" Tablets A101 (Prestigio PMP7100C), but Advent Vega/ViewSonic 10S/POV mobii are all Tegra 2 based (dual-core with NVIDIA technology (think GeForce GPUs)).

There are alot of similar models and brands in the tablet world and some are ROOT-able and some are not and not a single of these "cheap" tablets has the Google Experience, because that costs extra money for the manufactuers.

I would strongly recommend to check if the device is ROOT-able before you purchase it, this basically applies to any device nowadays: Routers, Phones, media players, Consoles,...

Update about the apks from the Market:

I installed the Market apk on my tablet and it didn't show some apps/games in the market. So I've installed them thru my SGS (phone) and then made a backup (Titanium Backup, Astro Filemanager, there are lots of backup apps on the market) and then transfered the apks from my phone to my PC and then from my PC to my tablet and normally installed them thru a filemanager (like Astro).

You just need to enable "Unknown sources" under Settings --> Applications and you're all done!
[Vega General] fajf:
yani2000, thanks so much for your help.

I was hoping that the tablet was common HW, just with a obscure branding!

Btw, here's some info on the board. I was looking at the Archos, but it had less RAM and not 2.3, so I thought the POV was a better out of the box (guess I was wrong...)

Operating system	Android 2.3 Gingerbread

Processor	Telechips 8803 Cortex A8 - 1.0 GHz

System memory	512 MB DDR2

Storage memory	4GB NAND Flash

Display	LCD 7" 800 x 480

Touchscreen	Capacitive 2-point multi touch

WiFi	802.11 b/g
[Vega General] O_G:
Hi there.

The screen res on that screen is very low even for a seven inch tab, you should be looking at 1024x600 as a min. 800x480 is the same as my 4 inch phone. Also forget gingerbread, honeycomb is what you want for a tab. Try to find a POV Mobii 10 inch. Vegacomb will install on that and its only around 250 euros.

PEACE.
[Vega General] neverone:
hi there! :)

i'm thinking of buying a presticio 7070c tablet, but i'm unsure if it's possible to root it, or to install any custom rom, or at least change the launcher app. that prestigio's launcher is terrible! :)

also i'm wondering if it's possible to install regular android market, and then, afterwards to download and install apps from it?

any help is appreciated! :)
[Vega General] yani2000:
Hi!

You're actually on wrong XDA forum.

To get all the nice treats visit this XDA's sub-forum:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=875

Gen8 (Generation 8) are the forums for you!

Generation 9 is a good 8"/10" tablet forum with HoneyComb out-of-the-box.

To get more info about ROOT click here.

And here is a guide on how to ROOT.

If you have any questions feel free to ask in that forum.

And for the butt-ugly launcher (I would be ashamed to develop such a launcher), I think you can always install a custom laucher from the market like: GO Launcher EX, LauncherPro, ADW Launcher (I just pointed out few of the most commonly used launchers).

And for the apps+market thing... when you ROOT your tablet you can copy market, maps, contacts, gmail, talk, youtube,... and some other google framework and services related apks to your system/app folder with root explorer and after reboot you'll get the google experience.

Or you can install a custom ROM and let an experienced developer handle all the details.
[Vega General] xcasex:
Well tbh, from my research its based on the ly-f tablet. i'll post a thread when i figure out more.

Also, the tablet comes pre-rooted. just install superuser.apk and rock n roll.
[Vega General] AllGoodWereTaken:
[HowTo] Install Android Market on Point of View ProTab 2

I had the same problem with the Point of View Mobii 7" Tablet ProTab 2 (TAB-7C-4GW-1). After a couple of hours, I found a solution. Here is what I did:

1. Update the firmware/ROM to version 2. Download from Point of View homepage (I can't provide the URL due to forum limitations :(, but Google "TAB-7C-4GW-1 firmware" and it should be the first hit). NOTE that following the instructions will also perform a factory reset and remove all data. (The reset in the last step means putting a needle in the tiny hole on the back)

2. Configure Wi-Fi and connect.

3. Open the YouTube app and go to My channel. This will require you to log in, so select to add account and provide your Google credentials. (Adding the Google account in the device Settings didn't work for me, at least not under firmware 1)

4. Put LauncherPro and Home Switcher on an SD card, for example by backup up some other device with MyBackup (or maybe transfer to the tab via USB?). Open ES File Explorer and install LauncherPro. Then install Home Switcher, launch Home Switcher and select to launch LauncherPro. Now on the home screen of LauncherPro there will be a Market icon. Tap it, accept the terms - and your're in!

For me this worked on two separate devices with different Google accounts.
[Vega General] slybunda:
i picked up a POV mobii tegra 2 10.1 from my local computer shop for £132. it comes with froyo 2.2 and i installed youtube app and few games on it. im shocked how good the graphics are on games like shadowrun, riptide and jelly defence.

iv did try putting viewcomb 3.2 on the device but there were a lot of bugs, games like shadowrun did not work on it then either. vegacomb doesnt work, it just ends up at the vegacomb boot video animation and goes nowhere. so i went back to stock firmware. shame really since viewcomb had very good scrolling speed but it bricked itself with a usb boot loader message.

still trying to fina a way to get the proper market working with stock firmware.
[Vega General] yani2000:
Did you try any of the custom ROMs that are based on v2.2?

Like Corvus5, Modaco ROM or a Preformance Pack that goes on top of stock firmware.
[Vega General] slybunda:
no i not tired those, although with stock firmware 2.2 everything seems to work fine for me, i dont ge thte scroll speed that honeycomb offers but the 2.2 is more stable.

however i have an issue with motion sensor games where they dont register the tilting on 2.2 firmware but work fine on honeycomb.

odd.
[Vega General] vspike2k:
Hi, i get the same tablet of u (Point of View Mobii 7" Tablet ProTab 2 (TAB-7C-4GW-1)) but i get some troubles for upgrading the firmware, i cant enter in FWDN mode dunno why, i follow all steeps and nothing happens...

i press (holding) back button + power button and start normally and in FWDN software dont get the tablet data, can u helpme plz?

BTW this firmware upgrade solve the problem on sleep/suspend mode (tablet freeze and need to make a hard reset (tiny btn in back of the tablet)?

thanks!!
[Vega General] slybunda:
the performance pack is very old, its for v1.08 rom, im using stock 1.10 rom.

corvus5 and modaco rom dont have a nvflash installer so the install method seems complex so i didnt bother with those roms.

me hoping VegaICS improves and works out well, that i would like to be using on this tablet. or who know, windows 8 in the future?
[Vega General] fouzanhaider539:
Point Of View Playtab 2/Protab 2 7-4 GW-4

Hi Guys,

I Have a Problem with my Protab 2 7-4GW-4 when i make screen selections or type i have to use my nails instead of my fingers.I have seen

many reviews about this 2.3.3 gingerbread tablet but in the reviews the tablet touch is fine and good but why my is not sensitive i have tried

touch calibration why plz help me guys plz how the videos on youtube have a good touchscreen and sensitive.They are the same like my Protab2 7-4GW4 BUT why my is not perfect plz reply plz reply with a good news plz i really love that tablet
[G2 and Desire Z General] gkenga:
So I turned off my phone for the night, just to wake up in the morning, turn it back on and it hung on bootscreen. The phone restarted perfectly a few times but for some reason I keep having problems with this ROM. I'm using the compiled Clockwordmod recovery v.3.1.0.1 but I cant get this to work perfectly for a week without problems. Anything I can do to fix it? (Had to restore a previous backup.)
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheUndertaker21:
you need to have S OFF to use this kind of rom.

also make sure you do a full wipe including the battery stats
[G2 and Desire Z General] gkenga:
My phone is s-off but thanks for telling me the tip.
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
Randomly wiping battery stats probably isn't a good idea...

OP, really not sure what the issue could be. I'm not very familiar with the ROM and don't know of any known issues.
[G2 and Desire Z General] frankth3frizz:
i have this on my g2 and I have no problems. have you tried reflashing?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Tauschemo:
This has been happening to me occasionally but mostly when trying to boot into recovery post CWM update.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gkenga:
Nah, just gave up on it and moved to CM7 nightly.
[HTC Desire S] blackrose157:
Hi all,

i noticed that my phone (drops/do not) receive calls if i was connected to the internet through the data plan, but it works just fine if i was connected through WiFi, any ideas?

PS: i changed many radios but still the same.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
When the calls fail, is the phone is on 2G mode or 3G mode?
[HTC Desire S] blackrose157:
i was having a bad reception on 3G so i switched to GSM Only option.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
That could be the problem - as 2G does not allow data and voice/text at the same time, could be that because data is active, calls are being dropped. Try disabling data for a while and see if the problem goes away.
[HTC Desire S] blackrose157:
yes that is correct, when the send & receive bars of the data is blinking i cant receive calls, otherwise i can receive calls with no problems.

i will try to switch back to 3G and test how it's gonna work.

thanks for your help.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
No problem. I had this problem a lot before on my HTC Legend using the stock ROM. While on 2G mode, people would tell me my phone would keep going to voicemail even though I had full reception, and sometimes I would receive texts really late. It was very annoying as I never had the problem previously on Nokia phoens.

However, since switching to CyanogenMod on the Legend, and also on the Desire S, I haven't noticed the problem as much.
[HTC Desire S] adazamim:
Have the same problem on same carrier,

Sometimes, an SMS notifies me that someone has tried to contact me with no success !!

I thought this was carrier related, but never thought this is 3G/2G radio problem on stock ROM!!

Will give the "GSM Only" option a try and will report back.

Thank you all !!!:o:)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rawfa:
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[XPERIA X10 General] chiefy009:
Hi,

When I left the x10 forums some of you asked me to do a post on the comparison of my new SGS to my old X10i. Well here I go:

I have had my SGS for a day now, the first thing I did was flash a custom rom and kernel. Now some of you said it was a little fiddlely it is a little bit fiddlely but reality it is only different. Using Odin to flash a rom is no different to using flash tool. One huge difference is you can flash a kernel on the phone !!! Yes you can us an app to flash a kernel without having to be at a pc.

The phone came with froyo, even with froyo the SGS felt smoother and faster than the x10 with gingerbread on it. Once the custom rom was in and the kernel was in i started getting the phone how i want it.

I have to say the phone is lightning fast, smooth and if I am honest the X10 is miles away from being anywhere near as good. The battery life is better, the sound is better, the in call sound is better everything is so so so much better.

Now this is just my opinion and my experience, but after using a Sony x10 for so long in truth the x10 was nothing compared to some of the phones out there. Even though the SGS is old now and has a bigger faster replacement out there is still loads of development happening and it can still keep its own with some of the newer phones that have come out.

My advice Ebay the x10 and get bidding on a SGS, if you are in a long contract like me. Or get an SGS2 if you can upgrade.

Sorry Sony not sure i could trust another device from you after seeing what you gave us with the x10

*this is only my opinion and my experience, I have returned to give it as requested by some users in my good bye post, please ask me anything if you want to know anything specific about the SGS*

I hope this has give you some idea from a users point of view and been informative
[XPERIA X10 General] Devin-J:
nice review. but i dont agree that x10 is that bad lol :)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I definitely agree it is that bad....

After using another phone you really see it lol

Thanks for the review, I figured it would go something like this hahaha
[XPERIA X10 General] chiefy009:
Honestly I loved my x10, but when you use something like the SGS you realise just what an android based smartphone should be the difference is huge
[XPERIA X10 General] Arnold.Alexius:
for my opinion, x10 is best android phone over its price value. even though the phone model is over a year but at 1Ghz processor, still not that bad nowadays. SGS is good but expensive. my next upgrade might be HTC phone :P
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
Please dont post like this i feel very very bad:(:(

I bought x10 1-2 months ago i was having a option between nexus s and galaxy s and xperia x10...

Galaxy S- I didn't bought it coz of touchwiz i was not knowing about its fantastic GPU...

Nexus S- I thought nexus S is only having 480p recording and the rest is the same...

Xperia x10- I bought it coz it looked great and the spects was also good and then came the video showing gingerbread update so i desided to buy x10 and bought it...

I was not knowing about its bad GPU but came to know after i bought it i was having hopes atleast the 2.3 update will bring something great but sony F***ed all...:mad::mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] chiefy009:
Got launcher Pro Plus I removed touch whiz, even though it was not that bad

sorry ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] tomh235:
Hi Chiefy,

Have you got all of your apps on yet my x10 flew on gb after the fresh install but once I had loaded about 30 apps it slowed alot. I now have 65 market apps +, I'm overclocked with interactive governor, sysctl and build prop tweaks and its as fast as a fresh install again. (almost)

Cheers.
[XPERIA X10 General] chiefy009:
I have a bout 60+ apps on my sgs, over clocked to 1.2ghz and it flys everything is as smooth as butter, when i had my x10 once i had but in a custome kernel and z's rom I thought my phone was smooth, I can not begin to tell how just how much faster and smoother the sgs is compared to when i had my x10
[XPERIA X10 General] colossus:
Thanks for the thread Chief;), soon as i get one off ebay i will join you for a mess about, will keep my x10, will see that out until it dies:), be nice to have them side by side to compare but i trust you review as nobody knows the ins and outs of the x10 better than a flash junkie.:D
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
yeah nexus s had adreno 205 too, much better gpu than adreno 200
[XPERIA X10 General] SeZ87:
of course the x10 can't keep up with the newer phones, even if the devs get the utmost out of it you can't replace the hardware with flashing a custom rom/kernel. However the x10 is in no way a bad phone even in comparison to the SGS, I've flashed many phones for mates in the past and I must say, none of those phones felt better in my hand than the x10 (hardware/case wise). Of course they had better hardware and were faster but I don't use my phone to play tons of games with it, it's neat if it can do it but also very overrated in my opinion. I use it to read books, browse the web, watch a video or 2 and if the iPod is out of battery I even use it for music but that's seldom and the camera of course is still very very good on the x10.

It all comes down to your preferences, if you want to have a bad-ass phone that can compete with handheld consoles in terms of gaming you can of course put a lot of money in it, but if you just want a good, solid phone for everyday use without a lot of gaming the x10 is just right.

I use mine with Wolfbreak's ROM and ADW Launcher, have every animation off because that's not what I look for in a phone and it is very smooth and fast for me when browsing/opening an app, smoother than the SGS with MIUI, as smooth as the HTC Sensation/Desire HD with a custom rom.

Also I don't think Sony did a bad job at all, they might have screwed up early with 1.6 and 2.1 with call volume being low but they gave us 2.3.3 after all, not everyone would have done that and I've had the chance to work with an Arc lately and apart from the cheap backcover the phone is brilliant in my opinion and I would probably get it over any Samsung/HTC phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
LOL hahahaha

this is some bs.

People seem to lie to themselves to make them feel better.

Sorry but those on the worst laggy rom would still be 100 times smoother than the x10
[XPERIA X10 General] jimbo77:
Hey Chieff...

Ive also moved away from the X10 since May and i can tell you it was a great change... The phone is really fast and development is not near to an end... The only downside of the SGS i must say is the Camera but other than that the freacking phone overcome the X10 by far...

Chieff if you need any help in the SGS forums let me know i have worked and done some stuffs in there as well and kinda have some experience :)....
[XPERIA X10 General] tomh235:
I think the sgs is the phone I would have bought if it was a choice (my x10 was a very kind donation!) sgs is the best phone of its generation and the development is one of the most exciting. I hear that there is a chance the devs can get hd2 levels of hackability!

Enjoy Chiefy!

I will wait for some ice cream sandwich flavoured delights in the future, and for now, enjoy my x10.
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
I also must have bought SGS now i feel like this...
[XPERIA X10 General] tomh235:
Nah, you should have got the nexus s!

Don't worry though, unless you are an avid gamer x10 does everything.... Just not quite as fast as other phones ;-p
[XPERIA X10 General] twowheeler:
all my phones have been sony ericssons so far and i must say: not one of them has ever let me down or disapointed me. The x10 was one of the first phones with an 1ghz processor and i think it can still keep up with most of the phones of today.

But issnt the sgs much "newer" than the x10?
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Nope they came out around the same time
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
I m a gamer i also have a ps2 & ps3(jailbroken) i thought that x10 will fill my requirement of a psp but was not knowing about bad GPU all the rest is fine...

And the games that work that r unplayable due to buggy dual touch have to stick to x10 for a year or 2...
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
I still think that I did the right thing choosing X10 considering the fact that SGS was a lot more expensive than X10, so no wonder it's a better phone, Not to mention that I like X10's looks & of course camera way better than SGS's
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
really? when they came out originally x10 was a LOT more expensive
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
In india SGS is cheaper than x10...

SGS=Rs.20000

X10=Rs.22500

1$ is Rs.45-47 approx...
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
lol, Why & how on earth SGS is cheaper than X10? well, not here...

by the way I checked gsmarena & even there SGS's price group is higher than X10's
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
Thats what the price is in India...

Ooh and nexus s=Rs.23000

(1$ is Rs.45 to 47)
[XPERIA X10 General] javagreen:
I'm not sure why either, but that's the way it is :D

When I went to buy a new Phone back in 2010, I had the X10 and SGS side by side. At that time the only thing I liked about the SGS was it's AMOLED screen. However, I don't game, at all (not even Angry Birds) on my Phone..not do I watch videos or Youtube (really, I don't).

My main criteria was : Fit & Finish, Looks & Performance and finally, Price. Sure, the SGS has a better GPU and a marginally better CPU + more RAM - but I'm not complaining since my X10 is chugging along nicely with a nice smooth & responsive GB 2.3.5 MIUI ROM. And the X10 undeniably has a better fit & finish than the SGS.

I'll admit that the X10 gets laggy when I have 2-3 heavy apps open and I'm switching between them (I usually have PlayerPro with a 4 gig playlist, Repligo Reader as I read a lot of PDF's and Miren browser open all the time) but that's OK, it's the best the X10 can do with the limited amount of RAM it has.

When I buy my next phone (whenever that'll be), I'll be doing more research than I did last year. It'll most likely be a Google Phone or some phone that has MIUI support, officially. Bottom line is, I don't regret buying an X10 as it's a solid piece of work and has run all the ROMs I've thrown at it.

If you're a gamer, then sorry, tough luck ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
You still have the best camera m8 so dont beat yourself up to bad.. :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
Now i feel a bit good coz of the bootloader stuff but the GPU will allways be a pain...:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
The galaxy is a better phone but they wear badly. End of the day my x10 does everything I need so who caares :-P
[XPERIA X10 General] negrobembon:
I have both and i still prefer my x10, the samsung galaxy s has its issues too, that aside it is a lot smoother, has better game support, and real multitouch

But for some reason i like my x10 more
[XPERIA X10 General] aimcr7:
I love my x10 so much, even i know SGS is the way better, but i love SE UI, now on WB's ROM with unlocked BL, and stock kernel mod by Doom for unlocked BL, i feel its smooth even on multitasking, and i just play some mini games in my phone like angrybird and pocket soccer and i dont feel laggy even with powerAMP in the background, and imo if you use your phone to play games, battery drain is going so fast, and your battery going worse and worse caused by abnormal using.

I prefer iPod touch to play games and music, its much2 better battery life and performance than sgs i think.

I have x10 to be a truly phone, ipod touch and samsung wave (i want to switch it to blackberry, cause i need bbm so much).

Imo phone is phone, we use it for call, messaging, social networking, some internet connection, a lil bit music and games when another gadget going mad (empty battery or something).
[XPERIA X10 General] SeZ87:
I still wonder how a douche like you made it to 1095 posts without being banned.

Anywho, no, they would certainly not be 100 times smoother and no I'm not lying to myself, I've had all those phones tried out with different ROMS/Kernels if possible and am speaking for myself out of experience, they would of course be faster when it comes to heavy hardware use but since that's not what I do very often (which you would know if you would read whole posts) it doesn't matter to me.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Only thing that gets me..

The SGS, SGS2 has been out here for about 3 months now.

The ARC has only reached our shores now.

Price of Sgs2

+-US$ 665 "here in my country"

Price of ARC

+-US$ 872 "here in my country"

:rolleyes:

He's actually been quite annoying for some time now.

And got a good member banned by constantly starting arguments.
[XPERIA X10 General] chiefy009:
Just an update:

Had my SGS now for around 2-3weeks, flashed around 4-5roms and 4-5kernels, I have now settled for now with a rom and kernel combo, with tweak script, which is currently giving me over 3000 in quadrant, FPS test giving me average of 60fps

new firmware just come out for it as well so a host of new roms are being developed, SGS is a great phone