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[HTC Desire S] LaKraven:
Contact HTC support (where ordinarily you'd request your RMA or whatever)... explain to them that your battery is "undervolting", which is causing a "hard-reset", and that there is no need to replace the entire handset... just the battery. At that point, make it clear that you are more than happy to simply return the battery issued with your phone, in exchange for a fresh one.

From what O2 UK have told me (and I discussed the battery issue I had with them in great detail), you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of getting a defective battery!

It is interesting to note that, whilst the phones (almost always of the highest build quality) are made in Taiwan... the batteries (50/50 odds of getting a lemon) are made in China (the only country willing to deal with the toxic waste involved in the manufacture of batteries).

I guess just as the speed of an army is the speed of its slowest man; the reliability of an electronic product is only as reliable as its lowest-bidder part!
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Good idea thanks! I'm also quite interested in the mugen 1800mah.. have you got it? How well does it perform compared to stock?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Cheers mate! I'll be sending them a reply later today to tell them :) won't get a reply till tommorow though. How certain can you be that the battery is defective and not the phone? What if they do send me a replacement, and the phone still has problems??

Cheers!

from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'll be honest, I've never run any direct comparisons between the two, I just know that having a spare in my bag at all times means that I worry less about my battery running out of juice, as ultimately I always have a fresh one to hand. Which is useful if going away for a weekend or couple of days.

(Although you must remember when switching between the two batteries to always re-calibrate and delete any existing battery stats due to their differing capacities)

I know that there are plenty of threads regards the Mugen 1800 battery within the Accessory Forum as that's where I first found out about it's existence myself.

If I remember correctly you'll probably find a code within one of these threads that (if still valid) will entitle you to buy the battery at a small discounted price and also get free shipping (at least in the UK).
[HTC Desire S] LaKraven:
It is very unlikely in this situation that the phone itself has developed a hardware fault.... however, if the replacement battery doesn't solve the issue, you need only contact HTC again, explain that there is still a fault (also you would explicitly mention that it is likely a direct result of the undervolting battery) and you will need to replace the handset afterall.

Remember: the Warranty doesn't just cover ONE fault, it covers as many faults as you have within the Warranty period! Also (and HTC won't have told you this), should you develop a fault with a replacement handset within 30 days (even iif that takes you outside of the original warranty period) you're still covered by the RMA replacement warranty (which is a separate 30 day warranty period of its own).
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Thanks for the heads up! I may consider one!

I calibrated my battery using the app, but I'm still suffering the problem of battery drain :( there is no other current ROM that is like this (based on stock 2.1 sense) apart from leedroid.... Please let me know in the future (lbc thread if you encounter the problem! Thanks!)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Cheers mate, your a star!

Your logic makes sense too, that the phone cannot develop a hardware problem (moat unlikely)

I've only had my phone for a month and a bit so u have 23 months left warranty. I will update the thread when I get my reply from HTC later :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I got an email of HTC earlier today, saying they will send me a new replacement soon :) but they didint mention anything about me sending them the old one.

I am also quite convinced that it may be the battery hardware fault aswell, because I have notcied when I roughly throw my phone on the table/bed etc, it powers off on its own too! So maybe it is a loose connection??

Thanks all for the input so far, it is grately appreciated!
[HTC Desire S] Yilsev:
i have the exact same problem for about 2 weeks, afteri got gray battery sign with exclamation mark (which means battery-device communication error) this problem started to occur.

i tried to change the battery (with original one)/sd card/sim card. didnt help.

i just tried to throw the device to the bed and table to test if it causes powering off issue. it just didnt. but as you told, the problem occurs 3-4 times a day randomly.i couldnt find any reason, and i dont know how to explain this to warranty service guys.

btw i also use stock rom with s-on.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Have you done a factory reset and tried running with no user applications installed just to see if it still occurs?

If it does, than I'd certainly take it back and get them to give you a replacement unit.....especially as you've tried new battery.
[HTC Desire S] mociulski:
Same problem here.

I started having it two weeks after I bought the phone. Just tapping the phone sideways would cause it to shut down.

Sent it for warranty, and it returned with a new battery, which worked for about three weeks before crashing again. I've sent the phone again and I'm waiting for updates.
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
Today via Chat managed to get HTC support to accept my DesireS for repair

I hope it get fixed soon.. keep you psted
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Little update, basically HTC have said they are sending their new replacement battery out, and I shall receive it in 1-3 weeks. They aren't asking for my old one back though!
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
Today I made a video of the press the "deadspot" which I will upload and link tomorrow

it shows that slight pressing the back switches off the Desire S and also makes switching on difficult. Just in case HTC does not believe me this will be my proof ( and maybe yours too )

There goes the often praised "well build and solid body" stamp of the Desire S ..

I started to hate Android due to its lack of Wifi (proxy)profiles and lack of good synchronization capability with MS Office but now I start to dislike HTC too for releasing such crap.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Cheers look forward to seeing it. I realise mine switches off when I drop it, or throw it roughly. So it must be the battery is lose / faulty.

Just waiting and hoping my new battery will solve this problem!
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
deathspot on HTC Desire S

Here is my movie regarding the press the deathspot on HTC Desire S

also notice how hard it was to get the device back on again, took sometimes 3x pressing the power button...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4GqUPBLrQ4

I also experienced today the battery showed a grey icon with exclamation mark.

My device will be picked up by HTC for service so this post will be updated soon.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I have the sane problem!!! I never realised why mine kept swithinh off. Now I know! When I tap the same spot mine switches off! Can it na a faulty battery of phone?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
UPDATE.

NEW BATTERY ARRIVED TODAY. PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE FIXED!

(Hopefully) and I'm not getting a significant battery drain anymore.

Will update, if I run into any problems. I still got my old battery too
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
Although I have seen posts mentioning it was the Battery, my DS was sent for repair with Battery. Yesterday my phone returned from HTC repair with the same battery and a new board ( boardswap ) and new EMEI. I have not been able to reproduce the error since.

Of course I will be checking this for a while and also will check with other people 's DS.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Nice :) I don't have this problem anymore with the new battery, but when I put the old battery in, I still suffer this problem.

Also my old battery was discharginguch faster than usual, and it was only 1 month old
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
I fixed my problem by inserting a folded cut-out of piece of paper from the bottom of the battery, in-between the battery and the plastic lock.

No more sudden powering off ever since. even on the dead spot.

even if I throw my phone... to my bed.. with a bit of force.. :D
[HTC Desire S] dta1102:
Oh

Looks like a peace of paper works for me also. :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
What I do now,is use my New working battery for daily use.

Then my 'faulty battery' is my flashing battery :D

So everytime I want to load a new Rom, I just out my old battery in, flash, then set up. Then layer charge with my New battery :)

Now I don't have to wait to charge the phone before I can flash!
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
That IS risky of someone hits your desk during the flash process...
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I thought of that lol.

But when I'm flashing ROMs, I'm usually all alone by myself :)

And I leave the phone on the desk without touching it.

So is the problem 100% solved for you now? No rebooting?
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
After a week of testing I have not seen any reboot anymore so I guess

that even if the boardswap was maybe a bit overdone ( I would have loved to try another battery at the time but couldn't find a fellow DesireS owner )

it did resolve my issue !
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah I have been using my new battery for nearly 3 weeks now , and no reboots at all!

My old battery still has these problems

I hope the problem doesn't don't back though!
[HTC Desire S] Yilsev:
yes. i also tried that, didnt help.

i noticed that it was 11 days uptime lately, i hoped that this problem would be gone permanently, but for 2 days it came out again.

i just emailed the situation to warranty service.hope they will send me a replacement.

edit: btw i just checked my uptime out. almost 27 hours no problem. even with deadspot. i hate this kind of unreasonable problems. i'll try to do paper trick at the bottom of the battery if it occurs again.
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
deathspot: it is back - damn HTC

After a few months and a replcement motherboard, the damn deathspot is back, pressing the back again powers off my DesireS. I hate this thing.

I may try the "paper solution" or I will have to bring it back to S-on and factory rom and return it again :(

---------- Post added at 01:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 PM ----------

Can you please make a picture of how you inserted that piece of paper ? Id like to try to see if that works for me too.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Unlucky! Sorry to hear that! I think the battery is the fault. With my old battery I still have the problem.

Actually I had a sudden power down a month ago by the dead spot on the new battery :(

It happened only once, but is fine now...
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
It may be is the battery. A few centimeters difference maybe is the culprit. It may lose contact when battery is not "large" enough to be pushed by the lock. Hence, a piece of paper will suffice.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah, my newer feels firmer than the old one
[HTC Desire S] Nomader0:
This can easily be fixed.. no need for paper trick. Remove your battery. Get some cotton and put some clear alcohol on it (used for medical stuff). Clean the battery contacts firmly. Do the same on the phone contacts by using a cotton piece on a toothpick. Use a lamp to see the 3 contacts on the phone as they are deep inside the phone. I had this in 2 phones and this fixed it for more than 5 months now
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I've heard of a similar reported problem before, that was resolved by a folded piece of paper placed on top of the battery to ensure that the contacts kept in touch at all times

Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
[HTC Desire S] zeekiz:
2 layers of electrical tape has made my battery almost irreplaceable when I need to rarely remove it from my phone ;-).
[HTC Desire S] A2Z:
images please of solutions you may have !

PS: I ordered the MUGEN 1800 mAh so maybe that would be fiting better too.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Just request to htc and they would send you a new battery
[HTC Desire S] NIK3SH:
Is it battery related issue ?

I am facing this issue since last 3 months.....
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Why open such an old thread to post this? It has been answered many times with a fix that usually works;-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1828922

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1815515

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1704741

and many, many others. Learn to search the forums please :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] NIK3SH:
I did post the comment cause non of the patch/workaround mentioned in forums did work for me....
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] fluffynotfat:
About a week ago my market stopped working. Couldn't update or dl anything new. Got by with amazons marketplace instead. Got tired. Read on here about someone's similiar issue and decided to do a factory data reset except its stuck. Rebooting message and circle animation thing is gone. Can't power off or restart. Can't back out . The lock screen does show up and only takes me to the page with the initial reset choice where I can't select squat and using the home or back buttons doesn't work. Help!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ovigt71:
ave you tried rebooting via ADB? connect to your PC and supposedly you have already SDK installed onto your PC and the USB driver, you can reboot via ADB from Command Prompt (adb reboot + enter)take a look at my screenshoot (forget about " ./ " I'm not using windows)
[Android Apps and Games] em0vskangoura:
Hello, i wanted to ask if there is any new MMORPG coming out soon ?? Or on beta version.

It could be like Emross war or like the Chaos & Order.
[Android Apps and Games] thronnos:
You should try out Star Legends... Add Thronnos or Rokke, ill power level you :-)
[Android Apps and Games] iynfynity:
Muffin knight looks good.
[Android Apps and Games] thronnos:
Muffin knight made me lose brain cells once i saw rainbow man...
[Android Apps and Games] em0vskangoura:
LOL :P it seems so childish but i didnt try it.. Im addicted to Star legends now.. so topic closed xD :P
[Android Apps and Games] em0vskangoura:
Well I've say my review... this game is awesome. Just awesome !!! Everyone who wanna got an online game to kill his time in situations like bus travelling or what.. its the best game ever :D
[Android Apps and Games] thronnos:
I've got him hooked! Uhhh, ive been so busy lately... But if y'all want a decent alliance join up with "Heros of Light" and if your gonna complain about the "misspellings" try googling Heros.. Its Greek.. Ish... :-) also, we're allied with the biggest alliance in the game... Through me, cuz I rock :-) :-P :-) hit me up, either Thronnos or Rokke

Sent from my Shifty Speedy using the XDA Premium App
[Omnia 7 General] HansHalber2095:
samfirmware is awesome!

I just hope it will work on retail devices.

PS: Stupid post limit. I know there is a thread about this in the Development and Hacking section and I would have posted there If I was allowed to do so.
[Omnia 7 General] amdx2:
wow this is good news, then again i already using RTM
[Omnia 7 General] Sanien:
Only interesting

If it comes with the new drivers and wifi teether.
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
Can any dev just port the sense 3.5 rosie and widgets like Seo did for sense 3.0 on the desire hd and hd2.

If you not familar who Seo is he is a great dev who ported sense 3.0 parts for the desire hd firsts he started with the lockscreen and camera and then he ported just the rosie and the widgets.So can one of our great devs here just port the rosie and widgets to the sensation please. Thankyou in advance and you got my donate coming. And i know theres a thread asking can it be done http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1247794 but my thread is asking a dev to do it.:D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jepe63:
Hi to all,

I'm looking for a new tablet but don't now which is the best for a reasonable price.

I'm owning a Flytouch 3 but can't get used to the resistive screen (i'm used to the capacitive screen of my HTC Desire-S)

So my question , wich one is the best , cheapest and of course can be rooted ?:rolleyes:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
Nook colour looks promising, Very reasonable price,

Has its own XDA section too :D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jepe63:
2 things i want:

Capacitive touch (if possible multi)

10"
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PsHegger:
I don't know what reasonable price means for you, but Motorola Xoom is a great tablet
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jepe63:
Nobody else got one ? strange , am i in the wrong section here ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baseballfanz:
Its just your question is more of a personal choice thing. I have the Asus Tf. To me its a good tablet at a decent price, but to another person it might not be. If you're able go to a place that carry a few different brand and play with them.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dramanis420:
baseballfanz is right its a personally opinion. Me personally I like the HTC Flyer. I have and EVO 4G and I am a sense junkie so it fits me. Price isn't too bad either. like $599.99 plus tax for one without a contract. Its not very big only 8" i think but thats big enough for me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droganche:
I'm looking for one to, which is better Samsung or HTC?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dtronics:
advent vega

i have a advent vega good cheap tablet got mine rooted and running android 3.1 and as far as i am aware it can run android 3.3 so go for that

pcpro.co.uk/reviews/smartphones/363172/advent-vega

from the above website

The Advent Vega is one of the more interesting tablets to appear in the run-up to Christmas. Priced at £250 inc VAT and sold exclusively through Dixons Group stores such as PC World, it includes a 10.1in capacitive touchscreen, a 1GHz Nvidia Tegra processor, 512MB of RAM and, crucially, Android 2.2.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowfyre26:
I recommend the Asus EEE Transformer. It gets Android updates faster than any other device I've ever seen. It's responsive, and if you buy the dock keyboard, it has full SD and USB support. Without it, you still get a MicroSD slot and HDMI. Honestly, best featured tablet I've ever seen. I switched from my iPad for it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kms108:
if you must have a sd slot, get the motorola xoom, it's been rated as one of the best tablet, but if you dont need the sd slot, go for the galaxy tab 10.1.

i'm considering either the galaxy tab 10.1 or 8.9, both out at the moment, or wait for the galaxy tab 7.7, i have till end of december to decide.

the chances is, it should be the galaxy tab 7.7, because of the super amoled plus screen and built in sd slot that i want.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] durs11290:
I have been looking at Tablets for literally a month and I havent made up my mind yet. I was originally looking at the Thrive, but changed my mind since it is really flimsy. Then I thought about getting the transformer but realized its really only huge sell point(to me) was the keyboard, which I wouldnt be getting. Then I was completely sold on the Xoom, and I almost bought it but decided to wait.. 2 days after waiting I starting looking at the 10.1 galaxy tab. So now Im torn between the Xoom and galaxy tab. Any advice would be real nice. I like that google bought moto, means the xoom will get updates sooner than any, but I like touchwiz(aside from the noticeable tag when changes pages). samsung has THE best screen out there and its thin and light. But the xoom is build more solidly and is more sturdy. They are like opposites while still being the same product so I am just stuck... lol
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jepe63:
I've also have been looking for a while now and yesterday i ordered the motorola xoom , i've read a lot of reviews about a lot of tablets , and the xoom is still the best i think (will post if testing is done).I know motorla is working on a second xoom , but couldn't wait anymore :rolleyes:
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
After I seen two threads regarding QPST/CDMA Workshop, I decided to give it a try too.

However, I had the problem with drivers, which I luckily solved.

Drivers source: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com...updateid=14df499c-c71f-4152-a63b-1c1e40cfc14c

So, here's the solution for everyone:

1.	Unzip the attached archive.

2.	adb shell, su, echo 1 > /sys/devices/virtual/usb_composite/modem/enable

3.	Open Device Manager. Under unknown devices you'll find two "SEMC HSUSB" devices.

4.	For both, install drivers from the folder.

You'll get unsigned driver warning, ignore and continue with installation.

5.	Reboot phone.

6.	adb shell, su, echo 1 > /sys/devices/virtual/usb_composite/diag/enable

7.	QPST/CDMA workshop should detect the phone now.

I won't link QPST (I don't know if there are any copyright barriers), but you can find it extremely easy on Google. You want QPST 2.7 build 355.

If you're asked for SPC code, it's default 000000.

Now, I need testers: anyone with locked bootloader, or bootloader unlocked with Omnius/SEtool, please open EFS Explorer and tell me if there's anything inside cert, client-cert and client-key folders. Alternatively, try to find any SE/SEMC certificates in EFS.

Best regards
[Xperia Play Android Development] trent6gol:
64 bit vista won't let me install. any chances you can make this.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Strange. What error are you getting?
[Xperia Play Android Development] solitaire4eva:
Thanks no error messages at all!
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Good. Is your bootloader locked?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Alejandrissimo:
No new hardware are detected, even with modem enable set to 1 :(

Im in Xperia arc unlocked by setool
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Just turn on modem mode and install provided drivers for both HSUSB devices in Device Manager.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Alejandrissimo:
When I set the modem to 1 the adb stop working and the sa102 dissapear from the device manager but there is now new hardware detected.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Yes, that's what should happen - you should have two or three HSUSB devices under unknown ones. Install drivers for them.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Alejandrissimo:
Nop. There is no unknown devices at all :S

Im runing a custom kernel, maybe need to run stock?
[Xperia Play Android Development] edokassiah:
link up my video also and claim its yours atleast give credit

also guys if your on stock rom verizon to enter DIAG mode you enter ##3424
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Which video?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mysticales:
Fyi for those using cdma workshop, You dont need to do the adb commands, phone wont "read" the info for general stuff, just goto security, send the spc code, it will unlock, then continue to upload your PRL stuff and change nam settings. Worked fine. =)
[Xperia Play Android Development] fma965:
what is this exactly? and what is DIAG/QPST/CDMA workshop?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mysticales:
For cdma phones to change out which carrier its on, you need diag mode (which is the programming mode thats seperate from rom flashing as it tells the phone which tower to connect to) qpst and cdma workshop, are tools we use to program this stuff easier. Cdma workshop costs 100$ for a license tho.
[Xperia Play Android Development] dexter35803:
x64 Drivers that WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

i dunno if this even matters anymore but i just made these x64 drivers and they have been tested and work just fine htey are not signed but they will install on win 7 x64
[Xperia Play Android Development] otonieru:
Will this driver let us who use custom rom to using DIAG mode?

since most of custom ROM kill the DIAG ability, so nothing will happen when u press #3424
[Xperia Play Android Development] dexter35803:
no they wont unforutnatly