yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
I can answer that.

Yes, the current kernel that's out there artificially (and stealthily) limits undervolting to -50mv across the board. I found and fixed this in the source tree a couple days ago, but no official release has it yet.

However, I'm currently building for all the variants (with the possible exception of Vibrant, but that's CM7's fault) the next V13 beta (I think - Six can confirm what this build actually is) which has that fix and a host of other goodies in it. Stay tuned - today is looking like it will be a good day for Glitch fans.

No promises, of course. So if nothing happens, suck it up and be patient, k?
[Fascinate Android Development] sol_671:
Lol, thanks for the reply, I'm not one to ever complain or ask for updates, I just prefer to go with the flow. Anyways, so since its limited to -50 then there's no point undervolting anymore than that at the moment until the next release correct? Thanks for the handwork you guys always do, eager for the next update.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
That is correct, yes.
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
Is that also the case in the 13 betas?
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
So far, yes. If the one I just built ends up being another beta, then it will be fixed in that.

Long story short: anything V12 and above that went out before today is going to have the ninja UV limitation.
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
Just updated to the new one, built at 10:21 AM. Still on the same crazy low voltage levels so we will see how it goes today.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
The beta I put out right before this one that worked had it too, but semantics. Anyone wanna make their sdcard ext4?
[Fascinate Android Development] xsc0rchx:
Have there been different version of v13 Beta? All the files I have looked at appear to have the same build date.

Just making sure I am not crazy.
[Fascinate Android Development] dandog96:
Did read the faq. And its not that my screen had poor color, its that I have a glitch where the black colors look somewhat distorted. I have tried voodoo control with no luck...
[Fascinate Android Development] krispuniq:
so is there a fix to the "Phantom Ring" in the upcoming beta ?

i am eagerly waiting for a fix on that stupid issue.. it somehow drains my battery if it gets into the phantom ring mode and i dont observe it in time.. the phone wont sleep and suck the battery out like a leech !
[Fascinate Android Development] xain713:
My SD card has been deleting files on its own :o its kind day scary, it mostly delete my music, I had about 1,400 songs, so I started putting less on hasn't happened again so far, and my card gets unmounted. Often I'm sure that's a known issue. With 16gb plus cards, mine is a class 4 16gb sandisk btw. But other then that my phone flies, can't wait for the stable release, oh yea on v13 any help would be nice :) I'm looking into ways to keep my card reading but so far nothing. :(
[Fascinate Android Development] xsc0rchx:
I have had the same issue on my wife's phone. Pictures come out good but the screen looks bad.
[Fascinate Android Development] dandog96:
Did you fix the issue?
[Fascinate Android Development] adude247:
So v13 isn't for the samsung fascinate only the telus right...
[Fascinate Android Development] xsc0rchx:
Unfortunately no. I was hopping that would eventually magically get solved. I have no idea how to troubleshoot the issue. I assume it has something to do with voodoo color.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Each phone is different, but try turning the gamma settings all the way down in Voodoo Control. If this results in an overly-green picture at low brightness, just set the screen dim level to 24 or so. This is set under Settings -> Cyanogenmod Settings -> Display -> Automatic Backlight.
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
That would probably speed the sd card up right?
[Fascinate Android Development] xsc0rchx:
If you converted the SD card to ext3 it will not be able to mount the disk to Windows as a portable drive. FAT32 is the standard format for portable disks / flash cards.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
Voodoo sd! Now this sounds interesting!

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[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
A word of warning: if you're running the beta from this morning, and you use Voltage Control, please be careful about updating the VC app. When I did on my phone, all hell broke loose. I reverted and everything seems ok. I want to hear your stories, though, if you experience anything similar.

And please, make backups!! I've been sorry I didn't a few times during this release cycle.
[Fascinate Android Development] sfobrien:
Mine updated automatically last night and went to crap quick. Uninstalled it and loaded a backed up previous version from TB. Then went into market and turned the auto update feature off for the app.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Oh, thank you! I'm NOT insane! ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] tannor:
Yeah I don't have any of my apps auto updating just for a reason like this.

I have not tested it yet or updated.
[Fascinate Android Development] quedi12:
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Yes if you want to get v13 for the fascinate you have to donate buying an app so in another words you have to buy v13.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
Come on man. There technically isn't a V13 for the fascinate yet.

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Or you can do what I do and download the source, and maybe even try to do something productive for the community once in a while instead of trolling the forums.
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
I hope your not intentionally coming off like a butt hurt brat who has had their sense of entitlement scared by a $5 app.

If you have a minimum wage job its like giving a half hour of your working life to devs that have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours coding and even more maintaining forum threads. Not to mention the financial loss that is involved in servers so they can selflessly provide us goodies for our phone's.... The fascinate which is not even a phone strings had owned until recently..

I rest my case
[Fascinate Android Development] sol_671:
Would like to know this as well, built date is the same even with the app updated. The thread is making me feel lost because it sounds like non fascinate users are posting here and talking about other galaxy s' glitch version (if not then my bad I'm just lack of sleep and understanding this wrong).
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
What's happening is six and I are trying to get the next V13 build ready. Part of that is making sure the code builds properly on all the different variants we support.

I have a feeling this is what is causing the confusion.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
This thread is being closed until a final V13 is out. I am tired of people telling us to hurry up like they are entitled to something from us. If you need help with bugs, you know where to find us.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Now everyone play nice, or I'll close it again.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Yay! The thread is back!

And we're almost ready. Just a few very minor cosmetic changes to sneak in, which I hope to finish up tomorrow.

Stay tuned, glitch fans! Things are gonna get interesting..
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Man Im so glad you opened this thread back up...withdrawls were starting in lol. Thanks guys!
[Fascinate Android Development] DrkGhst87:
Not to step on any toes with this question, but will the new v13 kernel going to be able to be used with JT's work with ICS over on wiki ??? or is that going to be something to look forward too? Either way glad the thread is back open and patiently awaiting anything from you guys, love that glitch
[Fascinate Android Development] joshkoss:
Very much looking forward to new kernal guys! Thank you for all your hard work! :)
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
V13 won't, no. We'll see about later. It isn't for the cappy or i9000, so honestly I have less interest.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
Lost signal while in chat, but glad to see my home lounge back!

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
Just want to say that i suffer horribly from keyboard popup at home (i use a Wilson cell booster on my house cause of 0 natural signal). And rc2 has completely eliminated it!

The new recovery looks great.

Also, i don't know yet if its reproducible on other devices but when i set governor to performance, it locks to max speed for a few seconds then locks to 400mhz.

When the girls fascinate is in my grasp ill test on hers also and report back.

I know your busy, so if no one has time to answer my next question ignore it. But i am a knowledge junkie and have to ask. What is scheduler (vr) and governor (lazy)
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Lazy is a variant if ondemand. I don't remember what VR stands for.
[Fascinate Android Development] Rick S:
I see that dfgas has included the glitch rc2 kernel with his miui port. Do I have permission to include it in my version? Thanks.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
This is more of a question for PM, but oh well. dfgas does not have permission to include it in his, so no, you don't have permission to put it in yours. dfgas did not ask.
[Fascinate Android Development] Rick S:
No problem, thanks.
[Fascinate Android Development] kallell:
Six, he did, as well i as i did. We both asked glitch and he gave the go ahead.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
could you please take this to pm's so the thread don't get locked again? Thx!
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Well, it's ultimately Glitch's kernel, and therefore his call. So take what I'm about to say with a grain of sand.

Personally, I don't care - if people find the kernel useful, then that's cool - just give credit where it's due and don't claim it as your own work. It's open source. So by the terms of the license, you are free to modify it and distribute it as you see fit, as long as you abide by the terms of the GPL under which it is licensed. I don't think any of us had to ask Linus Torvalds for permission to use his kernel as the basis for our work, nor anyone else further down the chain.

With that said, though, it's a good idea to not piss off the developers you rely on for awesome stuff, so it's also ok to ask nicely, and maybe don't tie it to what other ppl have done. "Hey man, you mind if I bundle your awesome kernel with this ROM I'm cooking up?" vs. "You said asdfkjs could use it for his stuff, so can I use it too?" One of those questions comes off as a lot more professional and courteous than the other, and therefore, is more likely to be met with a positive response.

With all that said, though, you might want to hold off for a bit longer until the official V13 is out. I just put what I think are the finishing touches on it today. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but I think you all are gonna like it, and it will be worth the wait.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
My opinion: I don't care if people use our latest stable kernel in their ROM, as long as they give credit. That is fine. I personally do not want release candidates to be put into ROMs, because they are not finished. Also, according to the rules of XDA, it is required for someone to ask before using publishing work based on another's code. This time is better different because V13 is basically RC2.
[Fascinate Android Development] androidmichael:
Why doesn't bln work correctly? I have the app installed and it works sometimes but it doesn't work with stock cm settings?

Any technological reasons why it won't work or if it will be fixed in version 13.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Well, the problem is there are a lot of different definitions of "BLN working correctly," and a lot of them are based on personal preference. Time out after a while or not is a big question. The simple truth is we can't please everyone. In V13 (out soon, really), BLN works as intended. It might not be what everyone likes in BLN, but it's there, and it can be controlled by Blinky somewhat or (I think) Neldar's BLN app. For now, it just is what it is.

At its core, BLN is a dirty hack to begin with because Samsung didn't bother putting a separate notification LED on the phone. We should probably be glad we have something that even works some or most of the time.

Wait for V13 and check out BLN in that and see what you think. It should be better than the V12 and/or the release candidates.

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Ah, ok, I see where you're coming from. I guess I don't mind if people want to try the RCs in their own stuff as long as they understand what they're getting - something that's not finished, not supported, and might not work, and that we don't want to hear any crap about if it blows up in their face, empties their fridge, and drinks all their beer. ;)

One more edit:

Completely different topic - I highly recommend updating to the new EH03 modem. It seems to make the wifi / 3g hand-off a little less flakey. It's not 100%, but if I happen to reboot with WiFi on, I can just shut it off and 3g connects and works fine - no need to toggle airplane mode. That's kinda nice.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Yeah EH03 gives me 5G LTE, which is 5 times as fast as 4G!

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] wessiide:
Where your from aren't they rocking 37G or something?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
V13 is out! Come and get it from here for now:

http://androtransfer.com/

OP will be updated shortly. A couple of them still have the DEV title, that was a cut/paste error on my part. That is V13 Final right there.
[Fascinate Android Development] wessiide:
Sweet! First! Haha
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
In for 2nd lol!

Edit* Splash screen is sick!!!!!!!!!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] sfobrien:
Guess I'm third just downloaded!
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Awesome

Just another post from a CM7 junkie.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
5th! Just like having 5G! *ruhroh - time to run - looks like the boys in the white lab coats are back to return me to my padded cell*

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] hejay:
Yes!! I've been waiting for this!
[Fascinate Android Development] drnihili:
Downloaded and installed. Looking forward to it. Thanks to all who contributed.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
Oh yeeeeah! The goods are here! Million thanks to Team Glitch!

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] sarkozy:
Is wifi working for anyone else on the last two miui builds with v13?
[Fascinate Android Development] sendan:
WiFi is working.
[Fascinate Android Development] sarkozy:
Hmm I can't get it working with cm7 or miui. Tried a fresh flash as well.
[Fascinate Android Development] pntballer505:
Ahhh been waiting for this!

Thanks so much Glitch Team
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Don't know about MIUI but Mesmerize CM7.1 its working just fine.

Just another post from a CM7 junkie.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Can you give me details? Like step-by-step how you set it up, whether manually or restoring settings from a backup?

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] sarkozy:
Fresh flash of miui 10.28.11 & 11.18.11. Let it boot and flash the kernel after wiping both caches. Set leakage to medium and screenstate scaling to off. Reboot and wifi doesn't work. Also not working for CM nightly 108 after same steps but does work on #95.
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
Downloaded v13 for fascinate, super excited to finally get BLN back and nothing. Tried blinky and bln control. I might get .5 seconds of light notification before it shuts off. Any suggestions?

Edit 1: Rebooted thought it worked but same result... installed both apps and now it works. Sweet

Edit 2: Can't change the default blink settings or else BLN dies. ugh.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
edit nevermind.
[Fascinate Android Development] pntballer505:
Are the same GPS tweaks from Jt's kernel incorporated in this?

Because my gps is no longer working as well :( .
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
I noticed this, too. It happened when I had run fix permissions in recovery. Try flashing the kernel again, but don't fix permissions. That got my GPS back for me. Another suggestion is to recalibrate your compass and orientation sensors. Use an app like GPS Status for that.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
works for me. I just turned gps on since flashing v13 and had a lock within 20sec @12ft accuracy indoors acorsing to gps test.
[Fascinate Android Development] pntballer505:
Okay thanks. I usually do that,

but will try the reflash first.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
One thing I notice is 3 finger recovery is not working?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Update to the latest CM7 then flash this.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Is there a version newer than 7.1? Or do you mean latest nightly? Thx
[Fascinate Android Development] Tkun:
Lol, the one day I start using a rom that doesn't support Glitch kernels (JT's latest ICS build) is the one day that the latest kernel is released! Just my luck! :p Nonetheless, I definitely appreciate all the hard work you guys put into it. Looking forward to (eventually) using it!
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
Had the same results.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
The latest nightly will do the trick. If you don't want that, you can flash the zipfile mentioned in the changelog, which I would encourage people to actually read.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Alright - try setting up your wifi connection from scratch - also, try setting wifi sleep policy to "never"

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
I went ahead and flashed the latest nightly and three finger works... thanks! I went to the op and to read change log, but I dont think its posted yet...or I may just be getting tired. Going to read over the op again to make sure I didnt miss it:)
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
The change log can be found by following the link Six posted for the kernels. So if you managed to download one from there, then you would have seen it.

But, maybe you got it from the app, so I apologize for the snark.
[Fascinate Android Development] moemooo:
im sorry , wanna ask something

im on fresh VGB v8, stock kernel, ED05 Modem

then installing glitch v13, after reboot the radio seem gone, im trying toggle on-off wifi and airplanemode but nothing change, am i do something wrong? some help really appreciate

thanks in advance :)
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Try flashing EH03 modem in Odin? Not saying Glitch requires EH03, but it's the latest modem and Odin would basically reset your modem, giving you a "fresh start" if that makes a difference...

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Good advice. Also try powering down, then pulling the battery once power is off. Give it a few seconds for the internal capacitors and stuff to discharge before turning it back on.

Then try the *228 thing if the full power-down doesn't do the trick.
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
It sounds like if i flash 3 button fix i will no longer have the awesome looking and more functional glitch cwm. Is that right?
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
No, that's not right. You'll still have it. What you will lose is the old blue CWM that you currently get to by the 3-finger method.

The "recovery.bin" file that is flashed by the 3-button-recovery.zip and/or by the latest CM7 nightly is not actually a recovery image at all. It's just a decoy kernel that puts a file into /data. The glitch kernel (and all MTD kernels) have their own recovery built in. This is the sick-ass glitch recovery you see when you do a power-button, reboot recovery.

With the fix, when you do a 3-finger, the (let's call it) "decoy recovery" just puts a flag in /data and boots the normal glitch kernel. When the normal Glitch kernel starts, it checks that flag in /data. If it doesn't find it, it boots your normal ROM image. If it does find it, it boots your awesome Glitch recovery.

The net result is that you can now get into your awesome glitch recovery by the three-finger method. It's kind of a round-about hacky method under the sheets, but nobody really cares that much. Except for me, when I screw something up royally and have to odin the old blue recovery in order to fix anything, lol.

Hope that made sense. I still haven't had any coffee yet this morning.

PS: I'm also given to understand that the other (non-Fascinate) variants of this phone have had a different solution for 3-button-recovery for quite some time. So I'm fairly sure you don't need to even bother with it if you're not on a Fascinate. Someone who knows more about this please correct me if I'm wrong.
[Fascinate Android Development] moemooo:
@skynet11 and @ssewk2x thanks so much for the advice, radio works now.. but everytime I turn on wifi, phone shutting down it self, the rest is awesome, thanks for the devs y'all rocks!!
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
Anyone figure out a fix for bln yet? I enabled it in bln control. It blinks for a second but doesn't stay lit. Anyone figure it out?
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
The only other thing I can think of is fix permissions - the Android equivalent of chicken soup for the flu - but I'd say, still worth a try.

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] sendan:
It only works when it's set to blinking it seems. On that note, it works great.
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
its weird it works maybe 3 out of 5 times to stick. very strange ****. Great work either way. Im at 1400 and -100 across the board stable as could be
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
Just the default blink setting though. Before I could change the blinking timer to longer. Seems only JTs kernel for his VGB 8 has a good BLN at the moment but I don't want to use that rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
The kernel sbrissen made for pool party has a perfectly functioning bln..
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
Same with jts kernel that comes with cm7. I wanted to give this kernel a shot. Guess I shall reflash the rom
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
He made the kernel? I thought the rom and kernel was based on VGB 8 with all his cool additions.

Anyway I stand corrected.

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Which kernel version is that? Thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] Tk-Glitch:
We are all using the same BLN implementation so it's working the same for all CM7/MIUI kernels using BLN. I think I'll end dropping BLN support to go back to Kangsterizer/CM7 stock LED notifications if you are all having too much issues with it. And the same for Voodoo Color since so much users just aren't able to tweak it correctly. What would you want/prefer ? Nothing is frozen BTW, just ask and you'll get an answer. Send me a PM (or to Sixstringsg) if you have INTERESTING ideas/requests :)
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
My colors r fine i just went back to default in Voodoo control and all is good. I would suggest trying to other BLN hack. Like with the CM7 kerenl it says disabled but it works perfectly. With yours you need to enable it, and even then only works half the time. Not a complaint....