yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
Maybe you didn't notice where I said I wiped before every flash. The last time I tried it, I Odined the PIT and stock EE4, flashed CWM, wiped data, cache, and dalvik (I always do all the wipes when flashing a ROM even if it's the same ROM), and flashed 2.0. I still had issues. Both a general UI sluggishness as well as Market issues.

As for "more features", what one man calls features, another calls bloat. The legacy of Gummy is a fast, lean ROM. That is long gone. Granted, GBE is much quicker than FE, and I'm talking overall feel...not benchmark numbers. On FE, as more features have been added, interface sluggishness has been introduced. It hasn't been very pronounced until 2.0, but it's been creeping in for a while. I'm not really confident that GBE is going to be any better when it gets all the bloat from FE. I'm currently running debloated stock EP1W (since last night), and it's snappier than 1.9RC2.3 GBE w/ ext4. I'm waiting for a good GB ROM to get rid of these crap-toned colors, but it's not gonna be one that force feeds me a bunch of extras that I can't trim out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jkat797:
I never heard of this rom so I was just wondering what is gonna make it great, and I would also like to know what the stock theme would be
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Why don't you just cook up your own personal rom (Not in a snappy tone)? I haven't noticed any slowdowns, fc's, or anything out of the ordinary. I love this rom.

Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyCharged 2.0
[Verizon Droid Charge] xceebeex:
I have never heard of it either so I am pretty curious as well.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jarnoldsr:
Not sure why everybody has to hate mummy is what it is. Most of their development is and has been around froyo. The GB build is half finished and has no flexibility tool.box hasn't been done and no themes. I think most of us root and mess with our phones to go forward, not just keep basically the same thing aka froyo. I could be wrong. It appears this leak has been done released to some people for awhile and waiting for the ok to go officialy go fwd. I tried 2.0 its laggy and is a battery hog. AKA froyo.
[Verizon Droid Charge] 24BlackMamba:
wow haha i personally love gummycharged!! its probably my favorite right now, but i had darkslide on my droid x and it is the best rom i have ever ran on a phone. BUT i will DEF miss tsm partts ! pretty much both roms and great and have great developers.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jmorton10:
Saying dark slide will be the best charge ROM ever is a pretty bold statement and one I would dispute. I tried the dark slide DroidX ROM for a while and never really cared for it.

I swapped to Liberty and never looked back.....

I like trying new ROMs and may give this one a shot, but I'll be surprised if I stay with it.

~John
[Verizon Droid Charge] SOTK:
This isn't meant as a slight whatsoever so please try not to take it as such, but I just don't get why you find the need to tout TSM parts so much and/or feel the need to remind us that TSM is such a true Mod everytime somebody states they like another Rom better than TSM. You're right about what you said about opinion but aren't others entitled to theirs too?
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
At any rate, i cant wait for MIUI. They just got official builds for the OG Tab and i get ~3500 on quadrant. Now THAT'S impressive. My dad's DX2 can't even get that high.

Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyCharged 2.0
[Verizon Droid Charge] skydeaner:
I like gummy and all I just can't deal with my battery getting eaten that quick. EP1W is amazing on the batter. I use the same app's every time, with identical settings, so it is pretty easy to get a feel for each rom's battery consumption. Could be kernel related, although with imoseyon's kernel and with imnuts i had huge drainage. Even with no OC'ing and heavy undervolting.

Themes are no big deal, you can always change those yourself through UOT kitchen. And there are a lot of good themers out there to get more in depth than UOT can do.

Sluggishness is another thing. I always do my own build.prop edits, init.d scripting, same AMM values, etc. So none of the roms are really sluggish.

Market problems, I am very sick of LOL, to say the least. Things i know are compatible and can't download even after sch-i500 build prop edits... makes me very angry. I don't know what else to do about that. Some of the apps I use are GB only so I can see why they don't work on froyo, that is cool, but when i'm on GB and the gb apps don't show up... It really "grinds my gears" lol.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jkat797:
wait so when will this be released? approximately?
[Verizon Droid Charge] piizzadude:
I am still wait to hear what is so spectacular about this ROM. Anyone have a clue?

As far as Gummy goes, it is a great ROM. I use it as my daily driver, but I have noticed that since 2.0, it absolutely sucks down the battery. Juice Defender has softened the blow, but it is noticeable.
[Verizon Droid Charge] galaxyuser88:
All I have to say is great job to all the Dev's, keep all the great efforts and programs, roms, themes, modem updates coming. This is what we are all here for and the fun of trying new things to improve our phones.

Remember folks what works for one person will not work for someone else. That is what these forums are for. You come here read, download and try all the different roms and stuff . Find one you like and what u think works best for your phone and stick with it.

There really is no reason to bash any persons work just cause it didnt work for you. Just unistall, wipe and download another rom and move on.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Tornlogic:
I think that once DS is released, and people start using it, there will be a realization that it IS a good Rom.

Will it be the best ever? I donno about that. I had it on DX, and it was my favorite. looked great, it was quick as ever, clean, and I think with the Charge's screen, it will look even better than it did on the DX.

Can't wait for it!!
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
my response was to the poster who all but guaranteed dark slide will be the greatest rom on the charge...and you cant guarantee something like that

and what makes something "great" anyway

one can argue roms with a ton of mods are great...or minimal ones are...so i was trying to point out there was nothing to back that statement up

and i dont see why someone *wouldnt* want tsm parts...it gives you the freedom to customize the lockscreens, status bar, and many other user options...and its not *bloat* considerings its a single apk that is about half a mb in size :rolleyes:
[Verizon Droid Charge] carbonwhiskey:
will darkslide have TW elements (e.g. Alarm Clock, Email)?

I think the TW alarm clock is way better than AOSP.
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
Honestly, I don't know a thing about Darkslide Charged. This thread is the first I've ever heard of it, but I'm glad to have more developers on the Charge. We were down to just Team Gummy, and while Gummycharged may be the greatest ROM ever for some people, it's not for me.

Why wouldn't I want TSM Parts? For one, something like that should be invisible. If I don't want to use it, I don't want to have to touch it, but in GC 2.0, you have to go in, change some options, and reboot just to get things to look normal. I don't know if that's just the GC implementation, but it's annoying, and it runs afoul of good design. Second, while I was never a fan of GC before 2.0, it was at least usable, but I never got 2.0 to work right at all. It felt slow, and I had constant problems with apps, the Market, and FC's. The most visible change in 2.0 was TSM. As a software developer, I know that may not be fair, but from a user perspective, when I don't see any other improvements and TSM is the big feature being touted, I naturally am going to associate the problems with it. Because of those two problems, and the fact that I found all of it's customization to restrict usability rather than improve it, I see it as bloat. If you don't think that's fair, then talk to Team Gummy about fixing their **** and show me it's not.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mefloump:
I wish TSM was available outside of a given rom like it was on the fascinate. I like the lock screen options, the wallpaper options, and such. Gummy didn't play well on my phone. Last night I installed EP1W and so far it rocks. TW4 is awesome. The only thing I miss is TSM.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
i cannot speak to the charge implementation of tsm parts...as i dont have a charge to see it, and since its a port it may or may not work exactly as the original (ie instant vs reboot to apply changes)

the og tsm parts (well the final version of it) was invisible...by default everything was stock and you had to manually go and change things...didnt affect performance at all

but thats not my point...my original post in this thread was at some who said that darkslide *will be the best rom on the charge* or something like that

my point was "yeah and how so" cuz it wouldnt be feature based comparison
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
you would have to talk to syoaran about that (releasing it independent of gummy to be used on stock deodexed roms) but as far as tsm is concerned, gummy is the only rom we are allowing it to be packaged in
[Verizon Droid Charge] xceebeex:
Out of curiosity is that for personal reasons (i.e. issues with the other lead developers, etc)? Seems kinda strange that developers wouldn't want to share work they have done for as many users as possible, especially since it is already ported over to the Charge to begin with.
[Verizon Droid Charge] d-loko:
Just a guess but I'm sure they have some sort of profit sharing deal being exclusive like that. Otherwise, they'd be losing out on a lot more money that would be coming their way.

I think they question is how long until they are no longer obligated to be exclusive.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jkat797:
wait so will this rom be tw4? or have aosp elements? im confused
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
I'll completely agree that it's all personal opinion and preference, For me, TSM wouldn't make any difference whatsoever to if it worked the way you describe here. I wouldn't pick one rom over another just because it did or didn't contain TSM. I found zero personal utility for it when I was messing with it in GC, so if it were basically invisible and made no performance difference, it would just be there. In that case, it's a feature line I would completely ignore on the comparison...having it included isn't a feature for me because, even if it's completely unobtrusive and zero penalty, it's not something I find useful. It's at best neutral to me. It's a negative in Gummy because, even if it's not behind any of the other issues, it still gets in your face immediately and requires a visit to configuration and a reboot to make the clock show up in the status bar.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
it was ported by syoran with permission...he asked and it was granted

not saying that we wouldnt grant permission for tsm stuff to be used in other roms, just we want to know who is using and for what reason

we had the issue on the fascinate, where sbrissen would post tsm parts for those just to use on stock deodexed roms (those who didnt want to use com rom) and it would end up in the *other* fascinate rom at the time w/o asking, w/o permission and beat com rom to it

that started to irk a lot of us, and it took A LOT of shots publicly and otherwise at the individual before they removed tsm parts from their rom (we were just about to report it to xda anyway)

therefore only developers who we feel comfortable with using tsm parts/mods/themes/otherwise can use them with permission

does that mean someone else on the charge cant ask sbrissen, omj, myself and others to do so? no it doesnt...it just means currently gummy is the only group that asked and was granted permission

mainly because they had to go through a lot of work to get it compatible with the charge, that its not fair that just someone else can use their ported framework for their roms and then solicit donations based upon others hard work (biggest or one of the biggest problems in the android community imo)
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
thats fine, just like i said personal preference...everyone wants something different on their phone

just a big pet peeve of mine is folks saying "this is the best rom, fastest kernel etc" based upon nothing
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
nothing to do with money whatsoever....sbrissen accepts donations but doesnt do what he does for donations (the donation v time spent ratio is horrid) and i and other tsm members dont even take donations of any kind...let alone *profit sharing :rolleyes: (sorry i was cracking up at that one)

really the only way to get a lot of donations is to whore yourself out (many do and its gross)

but to the point of exclusivity, i think i addressed that in a previous post...theres nothing preventing anyone from asking sbrissen, omj, times_infinity, or myself for permission to port/use stuff...but like i said only team gummy has

and again they had to do a lot of work just to get tsm parts to work, and its not fair that anyone else on the charge could then just kang their frameworks, jars, and tsm parts and post it in their rom as a major selling point and a reason to solicit donations
[Verizon Droid Charge] d-loko:
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure sbrissen isn't in this for donations as most devs in the community, just that it's a motivating factor..

Good to know, that's very noble of u.. although if u did it still wouldn't be my place to judge

If you're saying it's bc they're the only ones that have asked so far then that's a complete different story. It just didn't seem to come off like that the way both you and they were promoting the partnership. I really do hope so bc I'd hate to see the community as a whole lose out do to "politics" as we've all witnessed countless times.

There will always be a few bad seeds so you should by all means be wary, but I still believe the community as a whole generally means well and wants positive progress.

Thanks for shedding more light on the situation to help us understand :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
yeah my point was that, too often poeple just use stuff without asking or getting permission...yes android is *open-source* (well depending on the license...currently tsm parts for aosp is apache {build it yourself and you can use it} but for touchwiz its closed/permission only)

from my pov (cant speak for everyone) i would have been pretty upset if it just started popping up in roms that we didnt give the ok too

but like i said, if others want to port it/incorporate it into their roms they do need to ask either sbrissen or another one of us in tsm.

fwiw i would be wary of those who just want to use gummy jars and apks to use tsm parts...id prefer to see they fully port it themselves (really if you want to use something in your rom, i think you should have to be able to make it work yourself)

but for the last time, yup others are free to ask :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] jkat797:
so when will this rom come out?
[Verizon Droid Charge] scarygood536:
did you return to stock first? and flash with sim card out? I got numerous force closes until i started from stock.

2.0 is really nice, I like the customization and everything and tsm parts is cool. I think there is defiantly room for improvement, and themes could be a little more crisp, but hey its free and i'm not doing it so i'll take what i can get.

I usually try all the roms for a while until something new arrives. I will most likely be trying out cm7, and darkslide and any other GB releases that come out. I have no favorites so far non have really "wowed" me, just 2.0 seems to have more support and you can customize it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] diamantericos:
uploaded from BBCrackman.
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
That theme looks sweet. I like the colors and contrast, and I like that the status bar icons are big and visible. My only suggestion would be that the location icon should be hidden unless location is actively being used, but that's minor. Overall, great looking theme.
[Verizon Droid Charge] diamantericos:
I know it is a.sick theme but ill probably still use go launcher ex
[Verizon Droid Charge] ethanperkins17:
Do you mean that it has nothing to do with money being donated to you specifically?

I completely agree with the "asking before using" rule, but the fact that you included the statement about others soliciting donations off of it and calling it one of the biggest problems on xda makes it seem like it has a little bit to do with money.

I'm not trying to start any issues, I'd just like to clarify how you really feel about it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
Your first quote was in reference to other developers, the second quote was in reference to sbrissen.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ethanperkins17:
That's what I was asking. Thanks!
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
it has nothing to do with money on our end (tsm) we ask nothing ask seek nothing in return for gummy using tsm parts at all

my comment about soliciting refers to those who put out roms/themes/mods that arent original (ie theme ports or roms that use others mods/kernels and continue little to no original work) and then have donate links all over the place and constantly post "hey if you guys like xxx update/rom throw me some beer money!"

im not against donations in general...but the donate button should be all that suffices (if what u do warrants donations)
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
I use Go Launcher EX as well, but what I like about the theme is the colors in the notifications drawer, popups, etc. All the stuff in the framework that I don't yet have the skills to change manually and that UOT isn't able to fully skin.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ethanperkins17:
Alright, I completely agree; thanks for clearing that up! Back on topic though, does anyone have knowledge of the pros/cons with this upcoming ROM (on the DX at least)?
[Verizon Droid Charge] diamantericos:
I get your point.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] achyut:
as the title says......can we port ROMs of other QVGA ANDROID devices to our minis???...like HTC WILDFIRE ROMs??!!!....i have absolutely no idea bout dis, and any lead will be awesome because i was checking the wildfire forum and saw they have some nice ROMs which can even look good on our x10 mini/mini pro...sorry if i am reposting, i searched our forum, but did not find a topic dealing with the same issue :p
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] leajian:
I have no actual idea, but I think you have just to change the LCD Destiny to 120 (in built.prop) and then resize everything with apktool or apkmanager, in order to make everything look good.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10ro:
i don't think so,,that this can be done,,,, because of incompatibility of gsm networks,, go to youtube and search this [[" x10 Mini Pro Custom Rom xWildfirePro 2.1 "]]. and also read comments:):)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
try port from htc wildfire, htc click, lg optimus me, lg gt 500\540
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] leajian:
Paul is right, those phones are most close to ours and most used for porting ROM.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
amendment. amendment. not LG GT500. try port from Galaxy Spica (I5700) or ^^^^:D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
http://goo.gl/ZhyQq - all support devices. (600 MHz)

http://goo.gl/zCBZg - all support devices. (800 MHz)

but in general you can use HDPI firmware. The quality of graphics will be worse.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] smallz2k:
Whose gona port them then...paulxxx haha no I was using your mini pro rom I thin it was cm7 pro7x, I know you stopped work onit :( loved it tho..the 1 app I dont like on nearly all roms is the camera ,that has a grey frame making lcd tiny, and anyone kno are the u20i's capable of zoom feature,nt seen 1 yet!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] leajian:
Yeah, I have fallen in love with paul's ROMs too! :-P

And... Zoom feature is just impossible to our phones. Due to hardware limitations. I cant imagine the camera zooming out of my battery cover! xD
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
Zoom is not the hardware, this software
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] flex96:
can we port nexus one FW???

so we can get ride of SE and enjoy the stock google look

i try it but it don't want to work for me^^
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
flex96 cpu arch. mismatch
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] achyut:
i played around with a wildfire ROM and got it ported (well, almost :p) ....i think i will get a successful port with a few more tries!!!!...in the mean tym, i screwed mah cell 4 tymz today (a record for me :D)..everytym da flashtool saved me :D :D :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] leajian:
Are you sure??????????? :O

When focusing, camera zooms a little bit, I don't think it can zoom more. Even if it is software related, again I believe it won't work...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] achyut:
no man, zoomin is hardware, software zooming has a lot of pixelpeeping, sonot really a good idea....it would be better if you zoom in and crop for getting a bigger pic :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
use camera zoom pro :)
[Nook Color General] :
Sorry if this is a newb question... but I just noticed today my bootable CWM sdcard is version 3.x but the current CWM is like 4.x with 5.x coming out soon...

Is there a repository of bootable images that would have the newer CWMs somewhere?
[Off-topic] FatalityBoyZahy:
I have a pet Leopard Gecko I'd like to see what you guys, on XDA have. Please post pics!
[Off-topic] Dirk:
So many possible inappropriate answers, so little time! :p

Keeping it decent, (for a change), i have always wanted a Burmese Python or something similar, just never actually gotten around to it. Snakes and other Reptiles are beautiful creatures imo.

Got any pics of your Gecko?
[Off-topic] dexter93:
A friend of mine has a pet iguana :eek:

...aes eht rednu

peed morf tneS
[Off-topic] FatalityBoyZahy:
My friend has an Albino Burmese Python, haha. Beautiful snakes.

Some pics...
[HTC Sensation] panfil:
Friends, please help to remove the watch from the status bar on the HTC Sensation, flashing Stock Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2 deodex.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
Translation ;P

Friends, please help me remove the clock from the status bar on the HTC Sensation, firmware Stock Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2 deodex

this should help, but there isnt a *really easy way

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7328895&postcount=124

EDIT* make sure you do a CWM backup before modifying this file, and if you have a theme, you will lose it after making the changes and rebooting, just reapply the theme
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
the other alternative (which is a terrible choice in my opinion) is to use ADW launcher or GO launcher, you can remove the status bar completely, but not just the clock, you gotta mod the actual framework
[HTC Sensation] MMoodyB:
I'd flash the Bulletproof v0.9 rom personally.

It has an extra tweaks section in settings that lets you remove the clock from the status bar, along with plenty of other small tweaks.
[HTC Sensation] henrik.dk:
I would like the same. doesn't android suppose to be very customizable.

even windows mobile at old days has an option.