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[Acer Iconia A500] GTablet:
Hi All,

I am a

new A500 owner

and a long time Viewsonic G Tablet owner; I know why I put a Custom Rom on the G Tablet (Stock Rom Sucked and VS dropped support). However after playing with my new A500 for the last week I really can see no reason so far to put a custom rom on this tablet.

The stock rom rooted and a few extras added/fixed like...

GPS Fix

NTFS Mount

Rooted

CWM Added

have really made this a very stable and very effective rom. I have been reading through the forum and I see a significant number of custom roms out there. I am sure they are there for a reason however for the life of me I can not determine why I would want to install any of them. I do also understand that I am coming late to the game on this tablet as I am sure these were probably developed to fix deficiencies in the stock rom when the tablet was first released.

So can someone explain to me why I would want to switch to a custom rom today given the stability and fixes available for the stock rom?

This is not meant to be a dig on any individual, group or any dev of these roms; I know these folks do an outstanding job and I appreciate every single one of them. However for someone new to this tablet it would be great to know what makes the custom roms better than what I already have with the stock/fixed rom I am running. I am currently running;

Android Version: 3.1

Kernel Version: 2.6.36.3

Build Number: Acer_A500_4.010.11_COM_GEN2

This is a sincere question and I would appreciate not getting flamed or bashed for asking. This is in the Q&A section so I am hoping this is the right place to get the answers I am seeking.

"

The only way to learn is to ask... so I am asking

:D "
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
To me I think everyone installs custom roms for all diffrent reasons. Each rom has its own benefits and restrictions. I have tried a few and always go back to stock.

Good luck and flash with great Caution
[Acer Iconia A500] GTablet:
Hi Erica Renee,

Thank you for the quick reply... I was just not sure if there was a relevant issue that would persuade me to move from my stock rom to a custom one. I very much appreciate your response!!!

Rick
[Acer Iconia A500] kekinash:
I'm coming from a Viewsonic Gtablet, and with the gtablet a custom rom was a must, here with the iconia I don't see any advantage to use a custom rom, Android 3.1 has everything I wanted. I only rooted it for ad-hoc support, but barely I use the ad-hoc, is only for emergencies, besides that, even rooting is not really necessary. Android OS backups all application settings, so each time I uninstall and reinstall an application, my former settings are there.

Just enjoy your Iconia :D
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
Frankly, I haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM to the A500. I did root it to be able to use certain apps.

I have tried a variety of ROMs and kernels on my HTC EVO 4G, but that's because stock Froyo and even stock Gingerbread is boring. I think stock Honeycomb looks and performs great. It makes me really look forward to Icecream Sandwich.

I did add ADWLauncher to my A500, so maybe that's another reason why I haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
i find myself in the same boat...

Running stock 3.1, rooted, cwm running - quite happy.

If you want to take it a step further, install Richardtrip's custom kernal and SetCPU and you will be amazed.
[Acer Iconia A500] GTablet:
Hi entropy.of.avarice,

Thank you for the feedback, it is truly appreciated! I would not mind installing the new kernel as long as I knew for sure it would not break all that works well on my tablet right now.
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
Still on stock since I got mine - though I have since rooted - I'm not really making any use of it, only for file permissions and dropping boot animations onto the folder directly rather than through ADB.

I shopped around some of the ROM's floating around here and other that a few of the Touchwiz UI functions from Galaxy, [I don't even think it's supported or still available right now] there's nothing out there that would add to my experience in any appreciable way to risk going through all that [and back again] when I want to.

Stock is stable, runs smooth and fast and is supported if something ****s up and that is all I need - my life doesn't live and breath by the tablet so it's perfect for what I need it to be and what I need it to do.
[Acer Iconia A500] ardatdat:
I am using self-cooked official honeycomb 3.2 ROM (rooted, ad-hoc fix, etc)

with self-compiled 3.2 kernel, OC and apply different kind of fixes & patches.

Installing custom ROM & kernel is the act of tailor making your own OS.

It is why android is so attractive and additive. :)
[Acer Iconia A500] Achristocat:
Whay a non-stock ROM?

There are about as many answers to this as there are ROMs. :)

I have CWM / Recovery / Taboonay 2.0 w/ richardtrip's OC-able kernel (oc'd to 15000) and the tablet is Super Snappy! It has ad hoc support for tethering to my phone via WiFi, no random wake ups, Netflix with no broken cameras, Good GPS lock (after a bit of futzing...)

I was originally just gonna put 3.2 on there to experiment with and flash back after playing with it, but I got REALLY lucky. Did a FULL CWM backup and just flashed the ROM & Kernel over my existing ROM without wiping and...it just worked without me having to redo everything. So I just kept going..

I'd say at this point on the tablet no one REALLY needs 3.2, but a few of the modded kernels out there fix a number of sore spots that I wish ACER would just take care of...

I love our DEVS!

So...Up to you! But I currently LOVE taboonay 2.0 and the RT kernel...No issues at all for me... :)

(p.s. I still have two preceding backups of a couple of states of working 3.1 on my SD card that are 3 weeks apart that function wonderfully Just In Case! so, yeah..nothing really to lose by playing and testing...)
[Acer Iconia A500] Achristocat:
Why a non-stock ROM?

There are about as many answers to this as there are ROMs. :)

I have CWM / Recovery / Taboonay 2.0 w/ richardtrip's OC-able kernel (oc'd to 15000) and the tablet is Super Snappy! It has ad hoc support for tethering to my phone via WiFi, no random wake ups, Netflix with no broken cameras, Good GPS lock (after a bit of futzing...)

I was originally just gonna put 3.2 on there to experiment with and flash back after playing with it, but I got REALLY lucky. Did a FULL CWM backup and just flashed the ROM & Kernel over my existing ROM without wiping and...it just worked without me having to redo everything. So I just kept going..

I'd say at this point on the tablet no one REALLY needs 3.2, but a few of the modded kernels out there fix a number of sore spots that I wish ACER would just take care of...

I love our DEVS!

So...Up to you! But I currently LOVE taboonay 2.0 and the RT kernel...No issues at all for me... :)

(p.s. I still have two preceding backups of a couple of states of working 3.1 on my SD card that are 3 weeks apart that function wonderfully Just In Case! so, yeah..nothing really to lose by playing and testing...)
[Acer Iconia A500] ibsk8:
I rooted to gain performance. Taboonay and Richards kernel have given me a huge performance increase, no more lag.
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
Don't change unless you don't have a life and you want to spend all your hours figuring out what is wrong, have tried them all and stock is less head ake.
[Vega General] foxguard:
Can this be done? On Windows, I would just go to RUN and type MSTSC then the details of my server and I can log on. Is it possible to do this from the tablet?
[Vega General] IndyUK:
of course you can. Just search for RDP client in the market place. Plenty of freebies as well as paid ones if you want advance functionality.
[Vega General] foxguard:
Thank you mate, went with 2X and works a treat!

Nice one
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MACBLACK91:
Hey i just got my tf yesterday and i would like to know which rom is the fastest
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thebadfrog:
There is no fastest. Its all subject to what you are doing, how many apps you have and your perceptions. There is no source for hc so everyone is basically modifying the stock firmware. Try them all and see what works for you.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MACBLACK91:
ah okay I forgot al about the source code^^ okay then I will give it a try.

Thanks for the info
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SwiftLegend:
Like frog said, there really isn't a "fastest rom." Even if we had the source, that doesn't matter. Speed of a rom is really perceived by the user. One rom may handle a lot of multitasking while another one opens apps in a flash. Based on how you use your tablet, the slow but really nice multitasking rom may feel faster to you than the one that opens apps quickly.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MACBLACK91:
could you guys suggest me a rom?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
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[Eee Pad Transformer General] chatch15117:
get prime 1.9 and flash a clemsyn kernel on it
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SwiftLegend:
ARHD is nice. Really snappy, for me anyways. I find multitasking smoother on it than Prime. Haven't tried Prime 1.9 yet, but I'm running HD 1.1.0 with Clemsyn's kernel v12..(lol haven't updated)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sazfar13:
Did you flash RHD over the Prime or wiped everything before you flashed it?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] BIGfin86:
I find that it varies from device to device. I'm running clemysn ver.4 combo and its been real nice
[Eee Pad Transformer General] pas7771:
I use Prime 1.9 and [Kernel] Clemsyn-Blades-CPAjuste-supercurio OC kernel for 3.2 elite ver 16

OC at 1.4 = smooth sailing..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] casanovafrankenstein:
Used prime 1.4, 1.7, 1.84, and now on 1.9 with clemson blades v.17a and it runs great. I suggest the clemsonblades kernel for the gpu OCing and voodoo support. Used Gnufabio 2.5 (i think) but flashing the clemson blades kernal made me lose the Honeycomb button bar and reflashing backups wouldn't fix it. Had to nvflash to fix it. But to be fair it might be rare. Think I only saw one other person report this.

Thought about android revolution because of more crapware taken out and integrated ad blocking, but don't want to superwipe and set everything up again. You might want to try though, since you're starting fresh. Think I've seen people using it with the Clemson Blades kernal v.17 just fine. Might have been v.17b though, without voodoo sound.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] casanovafrankenstein:
trouble charging

Also, one more reason to use clemson-blades is that people are experiencing a charging issue with (i think) all of the more recent versions of prime, android revolution, and gnufabio. Basically, charging don't work properly after a certain amount of uptime and only comes back with reboot.

clemson-blades v.17 fixes this by forcing usb charging.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovatch:
I am having a wierd issue and can not for the life of me remember how I solved it before I upgraded firmware or find any info on it.

I upgraded my p-1000 to gingerbread and now I can not leave my city with out loosing all network connections and even if I try to search it will not connect. The tab will see the network and show signal but not connect. I know it is not the sim card because it is fine in my phone.

I am on the bell network in Canada and they were no help as tech support reacted like I was speaking another language. According to the coverage map I have not left a 4g area

Is there a setting I am missing please help
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovatch:
anyone? I had this issue before and it was a setting but can not for the life remember what was changed before to make it work
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] auber45:
Hi there,

i have a problem with my milestone and cyanogenmod 6.3.2 (and the same in earlier versions of this rom).

After flashing the rom, deep sleep works for a few hours, and after that, without doing anything special, my phone doesnt go to deep sleep at all.

When i take a look at the battery stats, there is "running" with 100 percent, and partial wake usage is fully accounted to "android system".

I tried to restart after charging the phone, but it doesnt help. With stock rom, i have normal deep sleep accounting for about 80 percent of usage time.

Anyone has an idea how to fix it?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] afonsolage:
What app you used to see this "battery stats"? If you have a SS or a LOG it would help us to help you.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] auber45:
it's the built-in battery history that can be accessed via spare-parts. i dont know if and where this is logged somewhere as a file.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] auber45:
more information to deep sleep problem

After updating to 6.3.3 I figured out that deepsleep worked until the first reboot. I also noticed that, after restoring 6.3.2 with nandroid, deepsleep also worked before I rebooted for the first time.

Anyone has the same problem or any suggestions (except 'dont ever reboot')?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] zwirek75:
I had the same issue on 6.3.2. After upgrading to 6.3.3 and playing with wifi settings the deep sleep started to work. One more thing I did was going into sleep mode with CMMod extended button (Zzz :) on notification bar)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] auber45:
thanks for your response. can you tell me what exactly you did with wifi settings? i also tried going to sleep mode with Zzz button in notification bar, but it doesnt work (screen turns black, but cpu runs at 250 mhz, and no deep sleep).
[Acer Iconia A500] crombiesooner:
I found this while looking for the location of the two mics on my A500. I have a low post count so I can't post an external link but you guys are smart enough to figure out how to make it work. :)

www_techrepublic_com/blog/itdojo/acer-iconia-tab-teardown-easy-to-service-3g-ready/2861?tag=content;siu-container
[Acer Iconia A500] Arashi1118:
Cool post. Thanks. Now I know how to take apart my A500 and what battery it uses.
[Acer Iconia A500] lechuckthepirate:
So that means we could upgrade the a500 with a 3d card and antenna and convert it into an a501 ? Anyone has electronics knowledge enough to reply this?
[Acer Iconia A500] gammaRascal:
-- Lazy link --
[Acer Iconia A500] crombiesooner:
^^Thanks^^
[Acer Iconia A500] pixiejoe:
What about the drivers?????
[HTC Sensation] RChadwick:
I have pfsense routers at my home and office. When I try to connect to one from another, my HTC Sensation (TMobile, not rooted), it times out. If I disable wifi and connect with 3G/4G, it can connect to both fine. I'm using PPTP. I thought it was a router issue, but when I connect to public wifi, I get the same results. Any ideas?
[Legend General] adrianwallis:
I'm trying to install the radio update from this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1008384, but it says

Amend scripting is no longer supported.
It was necessary to remove it when upgrading ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread based recovery.
Please switch to Edify scripting (update-script and update-binary) to create working update zip packages.
Installation aborted.

How do I go about getting a working radio update?
[Legend General] slovenec88:
You need to flash it from clockwork 3 or older.
[Legend General] saw81:
same problem...

my clockworkmod recovery v5.0.1.0
[Legend General] adrianwallis:
I tried converting the image to use Edify with the tools in this thread without success.

An old version of Clockworkmod recovery can be downloaded here.
[Legend General] TheGrammarFreak:
I think it's more than the scripting in use (don't hold me to that). See if you can get hold of Koush, he'll be able to tell you more
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
I am thinking very seriously about unlocking my G2x an going to AT&T because my service sucks big time where I live at. I don't get service in my house an when I go outside it takes about 5 minutes to get a signal.....what's everyone thoughts.....I've already talked to AT&T an Tmobile and have my unlock code already
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
I assume you've already verified that it's possible to get a decent signal on AT&T there?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
AT&T gets great signal there an a lot more places also.....an its atleast 3g there about to be 4g an with tmobile I've only got 2g there
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pbcal:
Good luck on getting Att 3g on G2x.....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
Why you say that for?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] r4d14n7:
G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pbcal:
My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...

And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.:rolleyes:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TJBunch1228:
Hopefully your "source" isn't an otherwise reputable source of information because you (they) couldn't be more wrong. I have been a part of the beta for these boosters for the past 6 months. All it does is take a weak 3G signal (which means you must get 3G somewhere in your house for this to work) and amplifies it throughout your house. In my case in an upstairs window I got a weak 3G signal so I put the receiver in the window and the transmitter in my living room. Now I get between 1 and 6mbps down throughout my entire house. There is not even a way to connect this thing to a home internet router. I don't even have home internet.

I'd be curious to know where you heard this.

Oh and the G2x does not work on AT&T 3G bands. I have been in several states with no T-Mobile coverage and have used AT&T instead, but only on Edge.

Sent from my LG G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pbcal:
I did not say I heard this from someone. I said its my understanding, and that was based on the similar booster I saw from Sprint. If t-mobile is implementing it in a different way, than i am sorry for my ignorance.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TJBunch1228:
I didn't intend to sound overtly defensive, I just don't like when people start using the "scam" word when this couldn't be further from a scam. This device kicks ass and tmo wants to give it out for free in exchange for people's business. This device is normally $500 so this program is great. Hopefully they will also offer the equipment at full retail price for those uncomfortable signing or extending a contract.

Sent from my LG G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
So in other words I wont be able to use my G2x and get 3g with AT&T
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sellingfear:
That's correct you will only get 2g connection
[T-Mobile LG G2x] futango:
correct. Tmobile has different bands than ATT. So tmobile only get 2G with ATT and ATT only get 2G with tmobile.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
Guess I should just sell the G2x then huh....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KiNG OMaR:
I see a Motorola Atrix with that beloved MotoBlurp in your future :rolleyes:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] herzzreh:
Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] xsteven77x:
+80
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GTRACER88:
Try today. It has the national launch today. :)

Nope. It does not need a broadband internet router to work. For that the phone's have wifi calling. It isn't a scam at all.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jboxer:
Lots of countries are messed up. We just finally got all the carriers providing 3G here in Thailand. Two of them are providing 3G on 850Mhz (DTAC and TrueMove), one is on 900Mhz and the other is on 2100Mhz. A big grab bag. An AT&T phone will get 3G on two of them. Some TMO phones get 3G on the other one. But all phones get it on the 2100 carrier. I am using my G2X on 2100Mhz here (TOT3G) and my Nexus One on 900Mhz (AIS). So the USA isn't the only country with non-unified 3G bands.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
What do u mean by this.....the atrix...I looked at that phone also and the infuse too
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
What u mean with this comment
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Why not just use internet calling for voice and data?

If you go to At&t you'll be 2G which wont be ant better.

Also with At&t it isn't about signal strength but about network quality. At my house you'd have full 3G signal but wont be able to make or receive a call or text. My gf still has At&t cause she's on contract and she can't keep a phone conversation for 5 min without being disconnected. That's if she can make a call at all.

I always had great signal strength with At&t but that means nothing if they're network is ****.

My neighbors switched to T-Mobile and said they'd never go back to At&t. They even has those internet boosters you were talking about but again... its not about your connection. Full bars or not... you still couldn't make a call.

I hear this from almost every at&t user I talk to.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr.frankm:
Umm... if you have home wifi, call T-Mobile and tell them you want free wifi calling. That's what I did. But my dads on att with my old mt3g and he only pays $10 monthly because it's not an att phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
Yes I'm gonna try the wifi calling tonight...but its has alot of place where I go doesnt have service at all....and AT&T does have service.....my mother and sister has AT&T an love it...I had Verizon and they didn't have as good service as AT&T does here....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Paul Nur:
Go here to see coverage ratings in your area :)

EDIT--

I don't find it that accurate because I have AMAZING coverage and t-mobile is 4th on the list for my area (boca raton)...?? Idk.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sgt_addyjp:
Where I work at I get great coverage.....but where I live it sucks......in my state the southern part sucks for tmobile......but at&t and Verizon gets great coverage in my area where I live at.....actually at&t is the best since my area over Verizon also...until about 6 months to a yr ago we didn't even have a Verizon store in my town....but we have 2-3 now....the only place that sells tmobile stuff is Walmart and radio shack
[T-Mobile LG G2x] gaww:
There is still some chatter about the G2X's radio having the AT&T bands, but they can not work without a baseband that is set up for them - which the G2X' basebands are not. Unlocking only would not access them.

It is too bad that this matter (TMo advertizing they were there - one of the reasons I bought one) was not put into that class action suit (although that was aimed at LG not TMo).

It might take a lawsuit to finally sort this out.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jboxer:
The G2X (P999) radio DOES NOT have support for the AT&T bands. The G2X uses a Qualcomm MDM6200 baseband chip. There are two versions of this chip. There is one made specifically for T-Mobile devices and it supports dual-band 3/4G on 1700 and 2100Mhz only. This version of the baseband chip does not have support for any other bands.

The O2X (P990) uses an Infineon PMB9801 baseband chip that supports tri-band 3G (no 4G) on 900, 1900 and 2100Mhz. There is also a five band version of this baseband chip but LG does not use it on any devices to date.

Neither version of the phone supports the AT&T 3G band.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiquitoloco:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yossi438:
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