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[HTC Sensation] ArtXT:
why not add chatbox on the coming site, isnt much better? 24/7 we can have conversation as like me, am from the philippines, and my time is different to others
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Well, the documentation would also be there 24/7. I think for live talking we should better use IRC (#baadnwz-roms on irc.freenode.net). Embedded chats on websites consume a lot of bandwidth.
[HTC Sensation] ArtXT:
lol!, i guess so, yeah, maybe irc is much better. anyways, maybe i can contribute some design for future use.
[HTC Sensation] koenvbeek:
Just jeep in mind that IC is also made by baadnewz for the Desire (and the wildfire too?). I'd like to write some things for the Desire version of IC.
[HTC Sensation] baadnewz:
yes once the project starts, desire will be there too

for wf i made 2 roms long time ago, and then i sold the phone :D
[HTC Sensation] jmwils3:
Ill contribute if i can :) I love this rom
[HTC Sensation] Spekko:
wow... this sounds freaking awsome. i would most definately help with coding once the repositories are set up ^_^
[HTC Sensation] darkjuan:
I think it would be really beneficial for everyone especially for the folks who are new to the ROM. 600+ pages of comments are a LOT to read through!
[HTC Sensation] show-p1984:
Make it so. (with Jean Luc Picard's Voice :D) Nice idea.

Would like to contribute sth, though I have a really tight schedule lately...
[HTC Sensation] Rwayne:
awesome

I just switched over from an iPhone, so im new to this scene. but with a little research I'm on a blazing fast IC 2.3.1. I really enjoying watching the improvements. I wouldnt mind providing problems/glitches, and then typing up the solutions once found.. then again, chances are you've got a better rom.(like now,need to upgrade:)!!)

Might need to have some threads seperated by service used...(tmobile ect..)

I think these roms need their own sections in this forum as does the HTC SENSATION . Goodnight
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
Delegate me a job then.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Depends on what you're able to do. Are you a kernel prof? Then write something about that. Are you "just" a user? Maybe the install docs are the right thing for you. :-)

Great to see people offering their help here. If some more participate, I'll start the project.
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
Ok i'll start from the top. might as well just crack on, it will soon be done. I have install. once done i'll jump on something else thats not been started
[HTC Sensation] wcoast:
I will support

I can test, compare and give feedbacks as well as support in other areas of needs. You the man baad.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Great start. While writing the plain installation process as a list is a good idea, you could maybe write additional information in text form. That's nicer to read and more informative, though lists are more efficient.

I would also add that you have to turn off Fast boot (why to do that and where), check the MD5 sum (what it is, why it's important and how do it accomplish this on Windows, Mac Linux)

Maybe there could also be information about how to S-OFF the phone (Revolutionary or official HTC unlock) and how to install CWM (besides information about what the heck it is and what the difference between bootloader and operating system is).

As soon as the project starts, I'll add this. Thank you a lot.

BTW screenshots are always nice!

EDIT:

@wcoast can't give you a "thank you" click since I've exceed the limit for today, but it's nice to welcome you aboard.
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
I'll add a before your start section with s-off, recoveries and md5's etc. When it comes to install process lists are better as it gives step by step instructions and are easier to follow.
[HTC Sensation] Sym_Link:
I would love to contribute as well. I have a nice write up already on getting Android SDK installed on both Linux and Windows that I can contribute.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
That's what I meant. the install process itself can be described in list form (brief overview, step-by-step instructions). But the overall documentation shouldn't be in list from. I hate docs which only consists of lists. They are uninformative and not a pleasure to read. :-)

@Sym_Link Yeah, that would be great. Thanks.
[HTC Sensation] mahesh_9j:
Hi Baad,

I'll be more than happy to help you in this project. :)

I am IN.

Thanks,
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
can you pm me you linux one and ill mod it for mac as the process is almost the same
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
I guess, we should start the project.

I've initialized the Git repo https://github.com/Manko10/InsertCoin-Docs and start working on the staging software. As soon as the project is ready for your contribution, I'll let you know and provide detailed instructions about how to participate.

Thanks to all of you.
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
No worries, can you pm me when ready as not always in front of my mac so might miss it,
[HTC Sensation] arifafzan:
I dont really know what going on, but i will support bcoz for me IC is the best sensation ROM and and will help anything that i can help.

supported.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Great. You'll be informed about what's going on and how to contribute soon enough. :-)
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
I will support and contribute any way I can. Baddnewz has changed how I look at Sense after running InsertCoin. Speed, stability, and eyecandy all wrapped up in one sick ass Rom!
[HTC Sensation] gcarloss:
This is some great information. I'm sure there have been lots of repeated questions regarding this information. I new here and I want to learn as much as possible from those who have experience. I did not see anything regardings boot animation using root explore. Can you add that here?
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Sure, this might also be part of the documentation, although I can't write about that myself.

EDIT:

I have added it to the list above.
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
I'll do some research. can't be hard I'm sure
[HTC Sensation] stevejau:
I love this idea, but no matter what is implemented it will still become a "free for all" where the same question(s) are posted time after time because people are lazy and do not read prior posts.

Just this morning i logged into XDA and baads 2.3.4 thread and i had to go through like 6 pages where people asked the same question, and all were pointed back to the 1st or second post. How hard is it to READ first open mouth second?.

What i suggest is this and while it may seem draconian i feel it is needed.

We need to have something auto posted at top of each page along the lines of.

"Before you post a question or complaint please read all of the known problems/bugs on page (whatever). Asking a question that has been answered and posted on page (whatever) will result in your post being ignored.

Help US to help YOU....take a few minutes and read the Known issues/bugs and fixes and page (whatever), before posting"

So in essence i suggest we keep one dedicated page for known issues, fixes etc so we can always direct people there.

Thoughts?
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Sure. But it's better to direct those people to a page which contains an answer than always repeating it. :)
[HTC Sensation] darkriftx:
Do you think new users will even view this guide?

I question the need for this guide. If the user is going to attempt this for the first time, and has a technical background, then they most likely will glean the information from the forum, the OP, and/or the 2nd post ;-)

Documentation must be continually updated to avoid becoming stale. This is the problem with any set of technical documentation. If there is a team dedicated to providing these updates, then that is good news.

Just my opinion from years of experience engineering software and having to deal with documentation writers.

----Side note ----------------------------------------------------------------------

BTW, I would at some point in time like to work on the kernel/kernels out there for the Sensation. I have a lot of Linux kernel experience (especially with compilation and tweaking), but I haven't hit my 10 post mark yet :-(\} Hope to see you all over there soon...
[HTC Sensation] darkriftx:
Great for new users, but they'll still ask questions wherever they can

On the flip side, the new users will continue to ask questions. Instead of asking the questions directly, they may ask where the documentation is, or any variety of questions related to location. Another thing with the documentation, there will now be three locations (at least) to send new users, the ROM section, the Kernel section, and now the doc section.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Yes, that's a risk I'm aware of. I hope, we won't have to struggle with that too much.

But when you send them to the documentation only, they'll might find other resources by themselves since they're mentioned and explained there. And to be honest: you can't expect that anybody reads the whole InsertCoin thread. If users don't do that, then it's not a sign of laziness. I haven't done it myself because it would take weeks. And finding specific information in that thread either via Google or the board search is also nearly impossible.
[HTC Sensation] gcarloss:
Wifi Issue

I updated from 2.4.1 to 2.4.2 with with out doing a wipe. Went to enable wifi and i get an error. I did a wipe of cache and fixed permissions and I still cannot connect to my wifi. Any suggestions?
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
Reflash the kernel
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Yep, that should solve the problem. Had that as well.

By the way: the staging software is finished, I'm now starting the testing phase before everything goes online.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
So, everything's set up. Checkout http://docs.insertcoin-roms.org/

The design might still need a bit of tweaking (it's the design septic is currently working on for insertcoin-roms.org), but that will be done later.

Step-by-sep on how to contribute will follow later on. The Git repository with a README file for more advanced users can be found here: https://github.com/Manko10/InsertCoin-Docs

The staging server will pull in the current HEAD(s) daily.
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Just wanted to let you guys know that there is progress.

I've just written another article about how to contribute. See here: https://github.com/Manko10/InsertCoin-Docs/wiki/Git,-WTF?

Step-by-step HOWTOs are the next thing on the list. Stay tuned. :-)
[HTC Sensation] Manko10:
Written Howto for SmartGit. Now everyone should be able to participate. See here: https://github.com/Manko10/InsertCoin-Docs/wiki/SmartGit
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vicky_ag:
I have a strangest of problem on my captivate. The IMEI is same as the one below the battery but with strange characters. It is like this:

IMEI/06

Is the IMEI corrupted? Or is it supposed to be like this. I have tried putting back the original nv_data back but the structure is still same. Any ideas?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bulletproof1013:
Your imei number is 06?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vicky_ag:
no bro. I am getting the original IMEI (say 123456789) but then it is followed by characters /06 ie

IMEI/06 (123456789/06)

Is it normal?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psych0phobia:
Perfectly normal. You're seeing the IMEI SV (software version number). Check the Wikipedia article on IMEI if you really want all the gory details.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bulletproof1013:
Lol
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rkkaranrk:
Is this a problem if yes, Howww ?

Phone IMEI is the way it should be......by any chance are u from India
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vicky_ag:
Got it. Thanks to psych0phobia. :)

@rkkaranrk - I thought it was a problem but it was not. Yes, I am from India. :)
[Networking] Sparksltd:
Ever since I purchased one of my previous phones about a year ago I noticed that the carrier I was about to sign up for stated that they offered free wifi as part of the package. So basically you could connect to a wifi signal and they wouldn't charge you for it. At the time I said to the sales person that surly that's always the case as the wifi signal is not apart of the data usage and its and external source the data. The sales person said that some carriers do change for this though.

Is this true? I still do see carriers advertising this as part of the package so wondered it some contracts don't come with "free wifi"
[Networking] crawler9:
My network (T-Mobile US) does not charge for data or calls (providing you have the "Free WiFi Calling" addon) over WiFi, however, I think texts are still charged.
[Networking] xaccers:
On O2 in the UK it's free use of The Cloud at it's hotspots, and supposedly BT Openzone hotspots (can I use them? like bugger can I!) where as otherwise their use would be chargeable
[Networking] bringonblink:
You're talking about their hot spots right, asnd not say, your own personal wireless network?
[Networking] Striatum_bdr:
I imagine they are talking about Hotspots coming with their network. For example I can connect for free to any SFR xDSL box in France if its Hotspot function is enabled.

Evidently if you connect your phone to your personal WiFi Network your phone provider can't charge you for anything...
[Networking] jman310:
Ya, I believe hotspots talking about too. Ie, here in Canada a provider called bell has wifi hotspots I believe at Starbucks and they are free with some plans, if not all. Don't think anyone can limit wifi access, although I think with blackberrys they maybe able to, not with androids tho, and why would they limit you.
[Networking] morphis568:
On AT&T if at an at&t hotspot at like starbucks or something the data used from the hotspot is free and not counted against your plan.
[Networking] Significa:
For T-Mobile, minutes/texts are still charged when you are on WiFi if you don't purchase the WiFi hotspot plan - which is a additional $10 a month. Texts are still charged if you are on WiFi with the plan but not minutes.
[Networking] Babydollll:
Wifi calling DOES use minutes and texts (texts are ONLY charged if you, pay per text or have a limited bucket, ie: 500 texts per month)

T-Mobile USA ( I'M in Jersey City NJ) does NOT charge for wifi usage, only mobile data usage.

Pipsqueak approved this message.
[Networking] crawler9:
T-Mobile told me that WiFi Hotspot Calling feature is a free add-on for most plans. They added it for me and when I'm using WiFi, minutes don't come out of my rather limited bucket of anytime minutes. Texts are not affected by WiFi calling. You'll pay (or not) just as you normally would. Without the add-on, WiFi calling will use minutes, but with it, it won't. Sorry I took so long to respond, but I just hadn't been following this thread.
[Networking] SamsungVibrant:
I think you should call T-Mobile back and get a clarification, you seem to have been given wrong information.

WiFi calling on T-Mobile DOES eat into your minutes. T-mobile has provided WiFi calling as a way to make up for their ****y network and dead spots in many areas. However, using wifi calling still uses your minutes.
[Networking] I'm TheQuest:
Hi xaccers

BT Openzone and BT Fon is

free if

you have a BT Total Broadband account. :)

Which is an unlimited amount of data usage up-to your monthly package, i.g. 10GB, 40GB, or Unlimted. :D

Which as you say, other wise it must be purchased. :eek:

Take Care

TheQuest :cool:
[Networking] crawler9:
My bad, perhaps you were right. I just had multiple T-Mobile employees telling me otherwise. Apparently they don't know what they're talking about and at least now I do.
[HTC Sensation] tcuk31:
After various issues (rebooting constantly, power button, touchscreen) i have decided to send it back for repair as i an no longer tolerate it. I need to know how to back my data up quickly and easily. Is there a way without buying an app. Totally standard sim free sensation. The issues all occured before 2.3.4 so i know its not that being he problem. Thanks in advance.
[HTC Sensation] sagarsaoji:
"my backup" is a free app in the market that will backup all your contacts, photos, text messages, settings etc. It won't be able to back up all your apps unless you are rooted but no other program will be able to either. Just make sure you save the file to your computer from your SD card. You also have the option to save your stuff to a cloud server on the internet and password protect it so its completely up to you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 1051102778:
Dear all

I bought a phone which is SHARP SOFTBANK SH934:o from Japan. The problem is when i bring back to my country - Malaysia. I notice that this phone cannot detect the network right after i changed to the local SIM card.

I have search through the websites and videos. Most of them are use another sim card with a chip on it that you attach to your GSM sim card and insert into the phone. It's called either a 'Hypersim' or a 'Turbosim'. But this thing is costly.

Does anyone know the another way to settle this problem?

Very much appreciate!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 1051102778:
does anyone know?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 1051102778:
hope to get help deeply..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dseldown:
Has anyone successfully done this??

Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1220181

I finally hard-bricked my Vibrant, and I'm wondering if this has been accomplished, instead of sending it to a specialist to JTAG it the traditional way!!

Im trying to see if I can resurrect it myself instead of losing it for a week!

And yes I'm aware of the One guy here in the states that does JTAGing, but Id be seriously outa work for a week as my phone is my work/life line, cuz I'm an Independent contractor, so its not about the money Id spend but the time down without a way to work/communicate, I haven't contacted TMO yet and told them it was hosed using the Kies method to upgrade it to Froyo. Wish I never had done that!! Should've known better, didn't see/read any post about the horrors of using Samsungs KIES program until it was too late!!!

I was trying to purge a SH 5.0 install that went bad, I flashed back to stock Eclair. Then went to Froyo, But thats when I developed a problem with boot looping after doing Froyo, so I tried the KIES program to go to "FROYO" and that's when It bricked!!!

Anyways its bricked hard, and I'm wondering if this has actually been done successfully!

And any tips that I might need to get the Heimdall Program to actually detect it thru the USB method, would be awesome! Even though it wont turn on!! :(:mad:

Link to the thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1220181
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamcooks:
JTAG isn't a method that can be done through usb. If you had googled jtag, you would have found out that it is a physical port built into the motherboard of our phones. In fact most electronics have a jtag port.

*Joint Test Action Group**(*JTAG*) is the common name for what was later standardized as the*IEEE

1149.1**Standard Test Access Port and Boundary-Scan Architecture*. It was initially devised for testing*printed circuit boards*using*boundary scan and is still widely used for this application.

Today JTAG is also widely used for*IC*debug ports. In the embedded processor market, essentially all modern processors support JTAG when they have enough pins.*Embedded systems*development relies on*debuggers*talking to chips with JTAG to perform operations like*single stepping*and*breakpointing. Digital electronics products such as*cell phones

*or awireless access point

*generally have no other debug or test interfaces.

In order to flash your phone, it will have to be dismantled, and hooked up to the jtag box.

Beware of angry gingerbread man
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dseldown:
Adamcooks, I read the entire squabble about this between you and RaverXX

I downloaded your one click as well!!

So can you give me some advice on how to get my phone to even simply turn on, WO the soldering involved using traditional method of JTAGing??? Mine wont power up or show any LED activity, nothing when plugged in or do anything using traditional methods known to work with "SOFTBRICKING"

I mean, it seems my Boot loader is corrupted, or the other file you suggested, when Raver and u were arguing!! If I could even get a faint indication of life from the phone, It could be brought back to DL, but a DL Jig, as well as all the other extensive methods to get it even to power on, let alone go into DL mode isnt working at all, after many, many try's!

Can your one-click program, with the proper BL's for my T959 Vibrant be acknowledged by either yours or Heimdall's Program, so as to even be able to flash this WO, Jtaging it, even if it wont even power up in any way to handshake with my lappy???

BTW, I'm not trying to start another **** storm, after what happened with RaverXX, but it seems some of the people who had the same scenario as I do, were successful, so I'm wondering between the 2 of you, how to approach and try this, I respect both ya'll's work and contributions, but for me the bottom line is to get my phone working once again, short of either#1 JTAGing it, or trying to go thru the painful experience of trying to get TMO to replace it with a new same model, because KIES fubar'd it!!

Anyway I wish you 2 guys could lay out the proper set of instructions as you suggested, along with the proper files or links, for us to try either his method or yours. I think its possible to resurrect these phones, this way short of physical damage, and as such!! IDT you 2 fellas would've put so much effort into this theory, if there wasn't some merit to it!

So I'm all ears and eyes to your suggestion of how to get my phone to even breath again, so I can go back to DL mode, and get her working again!!

But when nothing what so ever happens, no power up, no lights, no nothing occurs, it seems to me its bricked, even though you say a truly bricked phone , has physical hardware damage, which tech is prolly correct, however in this case, mine is software bricked very hard!!!! And for purposes of communication and clarity, Ill stick with bricked, If I knew the MB was fried and or damaged, Id simply order another one, and replace it, and power up the phone, and be done with this ordeal, but my corruption occurred during using the Samsung KIES program, regrettably!!

And I'm fairly certain that either the Boot loader file is corrupted or the file you say creates a black screen usually displaying the Pc-phone logo is done for, so again, should I try the command prompt instructions to fix that, or do I use your one-click, or go to ravers method ?? I asking legitimately, because I know your knowledge in these matters has merit!! Thanks for your reply!!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Br1cK'd:
Unless he changed his account, that was a different Adam in that other thread. I still say try it, cant make things any worse.

Sent from my ZenDroid, meditating on the XDA App
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamcooks:
I may give a sharp response sometimes, but an internet squabbler I am not. connextion(sp) has a motherboard cradle that contacts the correct pins to jtag flash, without causing any damage to your phone.

Have you tried the resistance jig? I think that skorpn is the one who makes them ( 301k ohm resistor plug into the usb port can force d/l mode if the bootloaders aren't borked)

these are the last two resorts in ng phone resurrection.

Beware of angry gingerbread man
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dseldown:
Ya My mistake Sorry

Ya I got you mixed up with another developer who has a very similar handle, so many apologies, however I wasn't flaming you anyway, shape or form, just apologizing for the mistaken ID

BTW Is the skorp resistance Jig a completely different animal from the DL Jig Tech Mobile sells doing the same result, in other words is it able to bring a phone like mine in the condition it is, into DL mode??? I saw the Skorp design, it just seems to me, its the same thing I already have from Tech Mobiles design. Accomplishing the same thing, but for phones that actually power on in some way shape or form, light off etc!!

Anyway thanks for your input, and effort, I'm still sorting all the info on everybody's suggestions and methods, short of JTaging it!!! Gonna make a move on a procedure here soon, this evening!!