yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tibedabeeto:
What part of Maine I was born in lewiston. I also have 4G in Orlando but dont use it so therefore I dont care if it added or not.

Does anyone else have lag now with all the new updates? If not how do you have your phone setup?

thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] dxjay:
oh yeah i forgot about that change lol just another mix up of words for were charging you extra cause we feel like it! but yeah i know theres ups and downs im just hopping the amazing team nocturnal can get 4g working on this phone as living in miami, 3g speeds are RIDICULOUSLY slow.

but yeah i think im going to move on to the evo 3d, i believe it will be much more able to run ports like this one at a lot better quality and speed, with my htc evo 4g im beginning to feel as if my phone is outdated when all my co workers are rocking dual cores already and there twice my age -__- anyone else about to make the transition or already did and has feedback of the phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigblueshock:
I believe it could be a hit or miss for us. No I don't think 4G will be an option in this Bliss port as Lithid said. However if a Sense 3.5 ROM/phone comes out on Sprint, I'm sure it will have Wimax code within. This would bring us a Sense 3.5 ROM with Android 2.3.4 AND 4G

But like I said, that's if HTC/Sprint releases a Sense 3.5 Phone. And thats IF that 3.5 Phone is Wimax capable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Team420:
Ahh Lewiston.... The somali's outnumber Mainers there now.... And Massholes (no disrespect intended, its just what we call'em :D) outnumber everone else everywhere....lol Though...I guess I dont have room to speak, cuz I'm a Jerseyhole, grew up in Camden/philly area....

I'm in Porter I'm about an hour west.... just on the otherside of Ossipee NH. I live right on the river in the ossipee valley, so if I go 2 min in either direction, I actually get halfway decent signal, I'm just in a hole here...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcmusick:
I can sympathize. I have 8 month old twins and I actually missed the delivery. Was at hosp all night waiting with low battery and wrong charger and picked the wrong time to go home to get good charger. Got back, got suited up and they were wheeling wifey back to her room.
[EVO 4G Android Development] XsMagical:
That sucks man, I had 2 extra batteries packed in my girls bag ready for the hospital lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
Firerat, at least for me, breaks superuser. Can't update, not even with fix from market. Reverted back and everything fine. If anyone is having root issues and using firerat that may be the cause.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cdsbj6508:
Funny I live in Orlando and I don't get 4g. I guess it's where ever you stay! Coming from T-Mobile where I always had 4g but my fault for jumping the gun to soon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 14u2c:
Same thing happen to me but I got it working by installing superuser from astro its the s.u. zip you used when u got s off should be on your SD card opening up with astro and install u should be good...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
Good to know! Anyone know of another way to fix the invalid package error when installing apps from market? Cleared data and fixed permissions but no dice. 136mb free
[EVO 4G Android Development] aggiedf:
Anyone know if the supercharger script or 3g script may work with this rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jaredthegreat:
Is .6 themed or is it just me?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nickhernandez:
Anyone know if a full wipe is necessary when going from beta v.5 to v.6?
[EVO 4G Android Development] KB112:
Shootme has had this for a while now. Is this just easier to use?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
If this is already being themed before major bugs are fixed that would really piss me off. I was pmed last night saying they needed help. No king don't theme this until its done. Please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
Haven't noticed anything. Examples?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rumessingwitme:
Im getting package File Invalid from the Market and Titanium Back isnt installing most apps either.

Any Ideas ?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] jaredthegreat:
+1 would like stock until rls, I may have gotten a bad dl but seems transparent theme but clock is borked..
[EVO 4G Android Development] Asperoth:
I had the same issue on v.5. Someone earlier said that v.6 fixed this for them but I haven't tried that yet--what version are you on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] drtwrk127:
Invalid package error means your cache is really low on space. I'm on Firerat, so I'm now running 260 160 in my mtd text file to fix the problem. If you're not on Firerat, I'm notta so sure how to fix.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=910956

See above link for more help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
6
[EVO 4G Android Development] rumessingwitme:
I just installed 6
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcmusick:
Downloaded it and you're right, i do like it. Thks
[EVO 4G Android Development] youngkalico:
Having problems calling my V-Mail & other numbers anyone else having these problems ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcmusick:
Give me the power

I've flashed every version of this ROM since beta2 and with beta5 I have everything just about setup the way I want. I'm ready to flash b6 and with most major fixes accounted for, I thought I'd really cleanup unwanted apps and add some of my favs. I'm definitely not new to flashing, but I've been reluctant to make any changes to ROMs. I'm sure there are some vets that can give me the scoop on way to cut down on setup time after flashing.

1. Is their a rule of thumb to adding or removing .apk to/from the ROM.zip? Is that safe or are there extra steps to take? How about specifically with this ROM?

2. Also if moving from one beta v up to the next is okay to do backup/restore using TB? All or just apps?

For adding, worst case scenario I can installl apps after flash (copy from pc to sdc or fresh from Market). But for removing apps included in ROM can I use SysPro or TB to remove unwanted apps? I tried this on previous ROMs and received a bunch of UID errors so I've been gun-shy ever since.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Milly7:
No i have been making calls all morning and just tried vm and it worked...

On a side note, if it hasn't been mentioned, if anyone is looking to access the landscape screen in the OP its clock>desk clock>then tap the dock icon right under the weather..
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcmusick:
How do you fix permissions? I come from Myn ROMS where there was ROM Tools (CW) that had that built in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
How exactly do I get to adb shell in terminal to use a2sd commands? Sorry for my ignorance

Edit: nevermind got it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
If u have amon ra recovery it is in other on main recovery screen
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
su

10char

MDPI LIVES ON THROUGH YOUR MACHINE!
[EVO 4G Android Development] gears1979:
Press 3 for noobs. LOL
[EVO 4G Android Development] MicrosoftBug:
Didn't see this one coming. Thanks for the info lith.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ericvbp21:
now its time to really keep an eye on this thread. i just hope we don't get closed again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Another interesting bit of information. See, when you decompress, your file gets bigger. As one might assume. Packing up a file saves space, but the idea behind decompressing apps is less stress on the hardware to open/run these apps.

So, I took Rosie.apk from beta 6 here.

Rosie.apk from beta6 comes in at 1.7mb. You can find that Rosie here.

Now, just as a test, and I haven't done EVERY apk, but I picked Rosie. Pulled it from the ROM and ran a decompression on it. My result? A 3.4mb rosie found here.

Now, I've taken my decompressed Rosie and run it through 0 compression over and over again to see if there is any variance. None.

What does this mean? Well it means that this particular app, which I assumed was included in "all", does not appear to have a compression of 0 as my initial decompression succeeded in a bigger/decompressed file, but any attempts after that result in no change.

Now, if 0 decompression means 0 items were touched in terms of decompression, then I retract my statement. However, I don't think this was the intention.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
Wow, I wish I had this much free time on my hands to go to this extent to try and make someone look bad. Who gives a **** of some of the languages are still in there. The rom runs great with or without the languages. You have spent an awful lot of time following this thread just biting at the bit. King has givin you nothing but praise for your help here and there, funny, when all you've been doing is riding along the thread waiting for an opportunity to try and make yourself look good and him look bad, just makes you look like an ass. Most of your thread comments are just that, being an ass and trying to make you look above everyone else. Real classy. I appologize to everyone else for wasting their time with this post.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cushockey66:
I don't say much on here but lithid if you are rite this is simply unacceptable..at this point with the whole thing with virus and now this ,I'm seriously starting to wonder who is actually doing all the work on these roms and if king really nows what he's doing..not to say he's not trying but might not have enough knowledge to do this without a risk of damaging are phones..my opionin is he's probably just trying to make people happy but lieng is not the way to do it..many people have fallen in love with this Rom and its features..so lithid I ask you why dont you make a new port that we can all count on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
This is what we plan on doing, but if people ruin their phones in the process it would be sad. I am just saying watch out. Anyone can do what they please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ronartest2005:
I like this rom so far, I still have a few issues. 1 being that I am in a poor coverage area, and whenever I go into roaming I cannot connect to 3g (yes I have data roaming checked).

So I will probably wait for a stable release.

Kinda sucks that everyone is at each others necks about this rom, it really has ALOT of potential.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Really bro? Classy? YOu think its ok to lie to users? To tell them they are flashing something when really they are flashing something else? Ok, just languages. Will it hurt? No. But don't post that they are removed then. What is next? A verizon radio stuck in the update?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
Um, not quite sure whatcha mean by that, but we haven't lied to anyone, we always lay everthing out there and give credit where credit it due. Not quite sure what your purpose is with your posts but they do little good. Post like your last couple are why most people are leaving xda. But, hey you can do and say as you please, I'm done with this. Just don't agree with flaming on others threads, never done it and never will, to each his own. No one claims to be a professional developer here, we are all just trying to have a little fun and if others enjoy along with us so be it. Thanks and do as you wish.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Flaming on others threads? We simply called out a developer. Hey bro, your changelog says you removed the languages and you decompressed the system apps. You actually didn't do either. That's it. =P

No one here is flaming, no one here is talking shi*. We are informing the users of this ROM what they are getting. If the OP would have done that, no one else would have to. I don't see the logic with your position
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
You know that before I went through and fixed the mms and apns that this rom had all users roaming by default through verizon? Meaning if there is a heavy data user that was using the rom could potentially cause issues with Sprint? Don't worry I fixed that though. idiots.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
If you guys want to direct you posts at me fine, I could care less. Basically, I don't agree with flaming on others threads, it does no good. If you have a problem with King and this rom, take it up with him. I just think it could have been handled differently. Like I said I'm done. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aggiedf:
Bliss was good while it lasted guess it's back to the mik.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Couldn't care less. Could care less implies that you actually care. However, this really has nothing to do with you as far as I'm concerned. You're the one creating drama here. We just posted facts. Lots of users have contributed to this port, lithid especially. I'd say that gives him a right to post facts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sivarticus85:
Wow seriously?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
Yup, like I said i let things slide for a while. Few updates with lies and crap. Had to let everyone know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
This post I can't disagree with. I by no means meant to create drama. For that I appologize.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sivarticus85:
Are you going to continue work on this rom? You seem pretty upset about the whole thing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jlallman:
I believe he said he was going to make his own port

Sent from my Synergized Freedom Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sivarticus85:
He most certainly did didn't he? I guess I missed that post... lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] peperonikiller:
Bliss from king = meh

Bliss from Lithid, Virus, And/Or Myn = F yea
[EVO 4G Android Development] oldpreowner:
Ive been following this thread from the beginning and this has been nothing but a load of bs. I came from a palm pre and webosinternals and they would not put up with this garbage for a second. They would have called out the dev in a heartbeat, so I am glad to see that we have got some people with integrity on here. I'm done with this Rom and others by them.

THANKS TO ALL WHO CALLED THESE SO CALLED DEVS OUT!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jlallman:
That wasn't necessary. There are enough issues as is.

Sent from my Synergized Freedom Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Virus:
wow looks like it wasn't all me hahahhhh the truth always comes out in due time ;) btw yes look forward to lithid virus treve and plattypus 3.5 it is in the makings as we speek !!
[EVO 4G Android Development] peperonikiller:
Nope it wasn't. MEH
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jfree3000:
Well its been interesting, but this thread is about to be locked down.......again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sivarticus85:
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about this statements power level?

It's over 9000!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] aggiedf:
Welcome back bliss sorry to have doubted you
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jfree3000:
LMAO is was rolling when I read that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Xtazy305:
I think I'm going back to stock Rom rooted till they fix this rom every night 1 update I personally think its better to wait a week or two untill they come with a better version more completed, since they open this thread all is fights lies and argument instead of getting all heads together to make this Rom fly.. that's just my point of view... I'm thankful anyway for the effort you guys have put on this Rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jfree3000:
Get to work Damnit!!!! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] knotcw:
just wanna know what if any damage this rom may have caused while running it? yall scared me back to stock :D really though :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] 2phonejones:
LOL alot has happen i see. Well virus where will i be able to get your build?
[EVO 4G Android Development] benshtc:
xXxViRuSxXx to the rescue and to save all EvO's :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] doejohn:
I thinks people are being too critical of Evokings.

Not every dev knows all that has to be known. If they were so perfect every release would be a stable release and every feature would work for everyone.

The OP shows evokings has been thanking everyone who has helped so far. Cut him some slack. He is putting in many hours on this rom as other devs.

As far as people bricking their phone, I would say that majority of people here know the risks that come with these roms.

Devs: You guys are doing a great job and we people depend on you for all these awesome roms. Cant thank you guys enough. Just get along with your fellow devs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrDr3z85:
This is all Steve Jobs fault I knew it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] TroyeJohnson:
Can't we all just get along!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] boley6:
So how do we follow your rom development. If indeed you are telling the truth, I for one would like to follow the further development of this ROM. Your saying that this rom might ruin my phone? How? I have a lot of money in two phones in my family and would hate to find them broken because of this issue. My wi-fi works great, and if you had something to do with it, Thank you. I am just a simple person trying to learn what I can so I can have a cool phone. I have to take your word for it because I am not tech savvy to figure out how you guys do what you do. I do believe there are a lot of people like me that really don't care how it gets there, but that it is there. We make up a part of the whole, as you and the rest of the dev. This Rom has a different look which appeals to many. If there is a different(better) thread to follow please advise. Thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] peperonikiller:
I think the problem here is the fact that everyone he credits seem's to have dont most the work, where as the work he 'does' doesn't seem to be true as pointed out here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17518572&postcount=2465
[EVO 4G Android Development] knotcw:
definetly not knocking king or his team i love yall roms and hell once we all rooted our evo's we took on all the risk that come along with that but that verizon stuff he mentioned scared me cause i know someone who got hit up for that by sprint they roamed verizon too much and sprint gave them hell but king please dont stop what u doing you have a following and you are one of the most accessible devs here you almost answer every question immediately and it seems u never sleep gotta love that
[EVO 4G Android Development] ronartest2005:
I really like everyone's work...virus (one of my first roms after rooting, thank you)...lithid (first 2.3 kernel, thank you)..barn (my everyday kernel, thank you)...and king (my first 3d rom, thanks)

But having said all of that, I do think that everyone went about this in a wrong way. If I were to catch something in a rom that was a problem, my first thing would be to PM the OP and inform them of the issue, and if the OP didn't do anything to fix the issue and/or inform the rom users I would then privately contact a mod.

But it seemed all too perfect that the languages thing was posted, then boom all of a sudden all of the people who had issues with this rom to begin with re-appear and 2 roms built off of this base are advertised.

I do understand that informing people of potential problems with this rom is very much appreciated. But having seen people being called "idiots" then the very same person who called someone an "idiot" saying they are not flaming or thread jacking doesn't seem to add up to me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] flex360:
i never liked lithid

didnt know why,but him calling people idiots really solidifies it

he is egotistical
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
Ok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot

Read the first sentence: I quote.

Saying your doing something, then not doing it, is very counterproductive.
[EVO 4G Android Development] WhiteEVO:
Thanks to lithid for watching our backs!
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrDr3z85:
I see Lockdown 2.0 coming !!!!!!!!!!!!! Grab everything you can and go!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] TroyeJohnson:
Maybe we can get back on track and talk about more important things.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] ronartest2005:
I don't know any of these people personally, So I can't say anything about 1 person one way or another. But I do know that most people who take this stuff as seriously as they do usually have big ego's. But that's part of what helps them keep their respective drives behind their updates.

But I do try to call them like I see them, and I do think that what happened in this thread was planned out. Having said that I would still flash a king rom, or a lithid kernel...or anyone elses for that matter.

---------- Post added at 07:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:45 PM ----------

You can try to flame on, but posting definitions and what not doesn't matter to me, because I just call it as I see it. And I am not taking a side either way, but when I see something that is B.S. I will call it out. And do I think that what King did is right?,no. But I do think it was went about informing people in the wrong way.

But thank you for the kernel, I really do like it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xamer:
Lith comments explain the slow network performance between v4 and v5
[EVO 4G Android Development] avwheeler:
This and that

Just felt it was time to join in .

I really appreciate the hard work that Team-Nocturnal and King have put into this rom. I can see that many hours of work have been spent, some of the points that Lithid has made are concerning, but I probably would have continued flashing anyway. It is very seldom that we see so many updates and fixed each night. The concept of the rom is fascinating, and I hope it moves forward. I am in no position to question any developers abilities, from King I see responsiveness and keeping testers updated, maybe to a fault, I don’t see this from many other developers.

Thank you King for a great rom – I have had no issues on any of the builds by following directions

Thank you Lithid for your bottom line info, it is relevant and should be posted in the thread, testers should know. Also for your help in development.

Everyone is updated with multiple developers feedback, I feel if you want to complain you should go away and note that this is a WIP or goto a different rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] malexxran:
What a bunch of p*ssies, how about a PM to the OP instead of doing it like this. Might be facts but this is a ***** way of putting someone on blast.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thugbar:
WTF?

Lithid-cm, barnacles10, Virus thanks for all your work. I have been watching this thread from the beginning, I have read almost every single post. I was waiting so patiently for a stable (miracle) release. I know that you devs have helped sooooo many people and you probably haven't got nearly the praise that you deserve. I have had my doubts about eVoKINGS and some of his releases. It seems that he is involved with so many different ROMs so you would assume that he knows what he is doing.....obviously not.

eVoKINGS thanks for being a recognized "themer"....let the devs dev before you F*&K up somebody elses phone.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jaquaslife:
Why are we still arguing about the past?? Didn't this thread get shut down for a moment because of all the flaming? Please can we get passed this and only talk about the rom and bug issues so this can get fixed? If I wanted to watch a whine fest I'd go to a kindergarten.

Off to happy land we go........ ------->> =^]

By the way the team behind this is awesome thank you for giving me an awesome aftermarket Tom to enjoy my phone with. A thousand thank yous.
[EVO 4G Android Development] shawn718:
So y haven't king addressed the statements. Didn't yall do this on another Rom thread. If he so bad stop f n with him. And if he's so bad y is his name linked with most roms. Thank u for informing us and if u fixed the problem what's the problem. I for one thank all who put work in on these roms. But it should be each one teach one. KING stand up. If u lied u lied. Be a man about it. People still going to f with ur roms. First time I had something to say on topic like this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kf2m:
I really like this ROM but with the recent revelations, and the fact I need 4G I am going back to Salvage-Sense 1.0 RC1.

IBTL