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[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
Oh. I see.. So assuming I have

One of the better processors in my device, would it benefit from running a ml or ll.. I'm currently on hl.

Sent from a beautiful miui fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Not necessarily. You can try, but there are no hard and fast rules about OCing vs leakage.
[Fascinate Android Development] Glocjt:
Yeah, that's actually why I decided to try powersave (throttling the cpu to 100 MHz in my case) , since the only thing that should be syncing is gmail or facebook. In any case, I'll see how my current combo goes, and I'll probably give ondemand a spin at some point, too.
[Fascinate Android Development] KrInEn:
Not sure if this was gone over. I went through the entire thread and could not fine anything :eek:

How do you disable BLN? I lost about 34% battery overnight :(

Also thank you for the advice on turning off the Gamma hack, my screen now gives perma bone once again :D
[Fascinate Android Development] GizmoDroid:
Not to be nit-picky, but I've seen multiple people refer to "turning off the gamma hack" and I think it might be confusing people. Turning down the values to the absolute minimum does not "turn off" the Voodoo gamma hack, it just changes the values of the gamma setting from the default to lower values.

Even Samsung Stock ROMs have horribly high gamma values. The Voodoo gamma hack allows you to change them to your liking (in most cases, much much lower).

If I'm wrong in my thinking, feel free to let me know, but I know how things snowball. Pretty soon, some troll would roll in with "eff the dude who invented the gamma hack, messin up all our screenz!"
[Fascinate Android Development] FordDenny:
What do u have that MIN and MAX on where it shows your scheduled/governor?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
You can't without an old CMparts.apk. But it wasn't BLN that killed your battery, it uses barely any power.
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
Like he said, not bln that killed your battery but do you have wifi on? Even set to turn off wifi with screen off I have gotten awful battery drain using wifi.
[Fascinate Android Development] iofthestorm:
I highly recommend using kdiff3 as your git mergetool. I've tried some others like meld but kdiff3 is just downright simple to use. If you're still having issues with git merging I'd be happy to help although I've never really worked on a project nearly as big as a linux kernel (except for half hearted attempts to hack around on this kernel lol. Yeah, I actually tried merging this with jt's upstream myself but it was pretty ugly so I gave up).
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
The kernel works fine on miui and cm7. If there's something going wrong it's user.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Are you sure it's that black-and-white? Just curious how conclusion was reached, not calling you out or anything...
[Fascinate Android Development] tonu42:
I made this post somewhere else before but here is what I do.

1. Initial flash of MIUI

2. Initial flash of GLITCH

3. Update MIUI through command "reboot recovery"

4. Boots fine

5. Re-flash GLITCH through "reboot recovery"

6. Boot-loops and cant quickly adb into recovery
[Fascinate Android Development] Azuma73:
I noticed that they (cm7's creepy gods) have pulled the build #66 from rom manager. Guess that means there was issues with it and someone is on top of it! Imagine that?
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
Got it all wrong, mate...

odin to stock..

odin recovery (fixed)

flash miui

boot into miui

flash glitch

boot into miui

delete /system/lib/sensors.aries.so

profit.
[Fascinate Android Development] tonu42:
That's what I do but it doesn't work. I can't flash glitch and then boot. Because it bootloops.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
What glitch version, what MIUI version?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
ROM

So, I've been seeing a lot of these ROM's based on CM7, some even using this kernel. Most of them are bad, or don't get updated, or don't offer anything over the stock CM7 experience. If I made one and updated it say once a week, would anyone be interested? If so, what would you want in it? The glitch kernel would be included obviously.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
Heh... MIUI. :p

All I really *really* want is a stable, working MIUI build that has working wifi after a reboot. :p

... running your awesome kernel, of course.

Don't think you really had that much in mind though, so I'll just go back to my corner. :D
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
MIUI is closed source, I can't do anything with it at all.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
I'm going to try to make a separate zip file that will clean up the old sensor libraries and (maybe) flash the ones the kernel requires. After reading what I think is going on, I think it might be helpful for you folks experiencing boot loops.

I'll coordinate with six and make sure it all gets done right. Also, whenever a new kernel comes out, I'll try to make sure stuff like that is no longer needed.

With all that said, I don't know when I'll get to work on this. Things are still pretty crazy here in Efpophisland.
[Fascinate Android Development] DarthCivicus:
Anyone having issues where the data will stop and won't turn back on until you reboot?
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Yeah. Usually happens when the battery is really low or I switch between wifi and 3g too quickley.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Does it happen on your stock kernel?
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Well I'm on CM7 Mesmerize. Its been so long sense I've been on stock I couldn't say. I only go to stock when I am doing a fresh flash and I don't stay on it long. As for other kernels for CM7 though, it happened here and there on JTs. But its so few and far between its hard to say. I've figured out that if I just wait a few seconds when switching from data to wifi or vice versa that it doesn't happen often.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I was calling JTs "stock". I was just making sure it wasn't a bug on my end, since I don't have a fascinate I'm not as familiar with it all.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Ah. I gotcha. Yeah it happened on JTs as well. I think it has something to do with the 3g and wifi not playing nice with each other. That seems to be when it acts up the most.
[Fascinate Android Development] DarthCivicus:
I've noticed it to when I have my wifi on.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Yeah, that sounds like a bug in the crappy RIL (radio interface layer), and is a known issue. It's also the main reason I haven't put cm7 onto my wife's phone :(
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Smartass2 governor coming soon!
[Fascinate Android Development] Bubbadogg14:
You don't have to reboot just toggle airplane mode on then off and data will come back.
[Fascinate Android Development] xain713:
What's the difference between the first one?
[Fascinate Android Development] jbr05ki:
When I use the latest Glitch with TSM Pool Party my bottom buttons fail. They don't light up or work.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
It's not supported, someone else will have to help you.
[Fascinate Android Development] ckrenek23:
I'm using the same combo and don't have that problem. Bottom lights stay on and everything runs great. Using HL uv and oc
[Fascinate Android Development] ekowanz:
+1 that would be awesome... Rom cm7 based that optimized for glitch kernel

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
awesome! there are a couple of other governors schedulers I requested a while back but I don't remember what they are... there was one scheduler that was supposedly the best for mtd roms.

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I added smoothass as well.
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
:D:D:D:D:D
[Fascinate Android Development] jbr05ki:
Care to share your UV settings please?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
That won't effect the bottom lights.
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
That's awesome. I'm a huge fan of miui myself. Sucks to hear its closed source. Wish someone would accidently misplace the code in github or something.

Some things that could differ a glitch rom.

Wifi tether to multiple PC's at a time with infrastructure mode.

Video out would be huge

Maybe if you could figure out miui's .mtz theme to use the lockscreens on cm7 base.

Tsm's cm7 wonder touchwiz camera

Overclocking and stability tests in options .

proper speaker cancellation with speaker phone ( to see what I mean call a phone with your mtd cell and put your mobile on speaker.. Then talk with the other phone and all you will hear is you're own echo very loud)

pez dispenser next to volume buttons

Video out

the dual page drop down i'm miui is awesome

Transparent lockscreen wallpaper support

maybe a cpu clock monitor that overlays clock step in real time on status bar next to clock (could also be a help to know where it was during a freeze up) and just cool anyway.

separation of backlights so each one can light separately denoting different notifications.

Ok going to bed.. More brain storming tomorrow.

Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
There is no way all of that is getting done any time soon :p
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
I think I speak for at least a few others when I say that I don't care what goodies you throw in, if you put out a rom, I'm flashing it. Your work already speaks for itself, simple as that.
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
I couldn't agree more. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] *Luke*:
+1

The only things I would ask for is a possible solution for the keyboard pop-ups in low signal areas, and the wifi to work on boot without having to toggle airplane mode. I'm not sure if those are feasible to tackle at this point, but they're just minor annoyances that I'll gladly deal with to have a phone that opperates this smoothly.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
After a speakerphone conversation with my mom and dad last night, in which they complained about the echo problem, I would like to note that the speakerphone echo issue is a very large bogey on my radar. Here's what I'm putting on my plate:

1. speaker phone echo cancellation - there has got to be a way to do this.

2. remove sensor libs from the kernel zip, and package them into a separate stand-alone flashable zip that can be used separately if needed. Should help you miui folks who are getting bootloops (which is probably due to incompatible libraries staying around).

5. Three, sir!

3. Six and I are working on automating the kernel build process a little more, including:

a. a fully automated, 1 command build that builds all variants all leakages.

b. if you don't have the special toolchain installed, we'll automagically download it for you so the build will work.

4. (lower priority because it's a BIG F**KING effort) try to make leakage settings configurable at boot or run-time so that we can have 1 build for each phone instead of 3, and the user can set the leakage they want either from an app or recovery or a config file somewhere.

5. Try to find a way to stop ssewk2x from dropping Monty Python references in posts. Probably not gonna happen.

6. Pez dispenser next to the volume control. I might have the photoshop skills to knock that one out quick ... ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Is their any app to configure the internal voltage? tegrak oc i know not to use.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Are you referring strictly to processor voltage? If so, check the OP. If you're asking about other components, I'm 99% sure the answer is, "no," but you really don't want to get that granular unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing and understand how everything interacts anyway. At that level, I'd trust an app about as much as I'd trust anything outside BIOS tweaks on a PC, for example.

That said, I'm gonna go out limb and assume that the CPU/GPU and display are probably the only components where you'll really see any difference (for better or worse) without easily hard-bricking. Relatively speaking, pretty much everything else has a miniscule draw by comparison.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bubbadogg14:
Whoa now I want a pez dispenser next to the volume button as much as the next guy but let's be realistic here. some sort of coffee/energy drink pouring out of the headphone jack is a little higher on the priority list don't you think? :)
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
I will take your suggestion under consideration. I do prefer coffee over pez, so chances are good ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Well if you can get the USB port to support my portable motorized cup holder, that would complete the package for me!
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Nope. I don't even know if it's even possible to do in userspace at all. We'll find out.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Ugh... would you even WANT it to be possible? ;) SOOO many more potential points of failure. KISS, man, KISS...

EDIT: That's not to say that I wouldn't still go tweak-happy (or be terribly surprised) if you wound up wizarding it into reality anyway.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
...and now everyone in the office thinks I've gone and lost my mind.

Thanks for that. :D

What you *really* need to do is modify the little Android widget that gives ya the tips and such. Make it so that he pulls random quotes from teh intarwebz periodically.

Python, Blackadder, Red Dwarf...and maybe even some stuff people have heard of. :eek:

(But as stated previously, really...anything you two create for the fascinate will be flashed....at least until you release a few rickroll roms. )
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Yes, a Bodrick Phone would be splendid indeed. Really anything that'll pull signal from VZW's Fawlty cell Towers is nice.

Jokes aside, I for one would gladly volunteer time and phone if you need a Guinea Fascinate...
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
As in to test, or what do you mean?
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Really, anything helpful that wouldn't require sending the phone itself. I know that likely puts a damper on it and that we're all technically beta testers anyway, but I don't really depend on my phone right now so I can deal with a bunch of soft bricks if need be. Basically, if the request fits that first criterion, I should be game.
[Fascinate Android Development] drnihili:
Nah, work them into the ROM. :D
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I'm not working on anything like that, but thank you. You're not quite beta testers, you just get inpatient so get "releases" that aren't final :p I still flash like five or six kernels a day depending on what I'm working on.
[Fascinate Android Development] Coolsaber57:
Ugh, I'm still getting random reboots in the middle of phone calls. So both LL and ML are hosed for me. Argh!

I'm going to try flashing the latest nightly + glitch and see if it's just a ROM bug.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Does this happen with the stock CM7 kernel for your device?
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Anybody have any good ideas for file hosting? (Don't suggest multiupload or anything like that, I'm not going to spend the time to do that). My web host got a little annoyed with the number of "unrelated" files I have on my site, so I might have to find another.
[Fascinate Android Development] n3os33k3r:
Mediafire.com is a good one
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I need FTP though so I can script it. Any time I make a build it gets uploaded so that my testers can get builds whenever they want.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
my phone gets so hot when using interactive governor. It was up to 78 degrees c. oced to 1.4GHz
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Is this still the one that you compiled yourself?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
No. I will not use that one again.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
I use "Minus" now, they give a lot more space for free (like ten gigs), but I don't know about file transfer protocol though.

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
This sir, is awesome. Where else could I ask for a working pez dispenser without being told how much work would need to be done to make it functional. Lol..

great to hear the upcoming projects. And that you are looking into the audio cancellation with speaker phone.. on that note, it also affects the head set jack. I use the jack to talk over my radio in my car. Just wanted to mention it in case its good info to help you hunt the issue down.. Thanks for your awesome continued support

Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
[Fascinate Android Development] 123SIT:
I have plenty of space available on my host. PM me what you want the credentials to be and you can give it a whirl.

Sent from my CM7 Mesmerize
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I have a couple solutions already. Thank you for the offer though! Now I just need to learn how to track downloads from a FTP.... XDAcloud.com has a good interface, but he wrote it from scratch and doesn't want to share.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
That does help, thanks. I've also been told it happens on Bluetooth.

What's really irritating is that from what I've been reading, it sounds like the chip is supposed to just do it automagically. There is no "turn echo canceling on/off" setting that I can find. Time for more reverse engineering, I guess.

Also, whoever it was that said they might be able to hook me up with a datasheet and possibly other documentation goodies - any word on that?

Thanks :)
[Fascinate Android Development] Eris _2.1_2010:
Being a truck driver I'm always on my Bluetooth and I haven't experienced any echo, just on speakerphone.

Sent from my Glitched MIUI Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Good to know. Do you have a BT headset?

I use BT via a Sync system in my car. It plays the call audio through my stereo speakers. My wife tells me she can hear an echo of herself when I'm using that. If you are using a headset, it's entirely possible that there's enough physical isolation between the mic and the headset earpiece to keep the mic from picking anything up from your caller .. just pure speculation here.
[Fascinate Android Development] bigwilly90210:
i would effing love a script that downloads the special toolchain for my ubuntu 11.04 machine. i'm having a hell of a time trying to set it up myself. got the source for glitch and i'm pretty sure all the other files i need to build the kernel but every time i run the included script: "make blah blah blah COMMAND NOT FOUND." :( also all the guides i found just said to get it from the android source, but kernel.org is still "down for maintenance". any help? or should i just wait for the easy/lazy/noob script? i feel so lame... ha
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Are you trying to compile just for fun? I can teach you how later. It's not a standard build system.
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Getting the development environment set up was/is a giant pain in the ass. It took me a couple weeks of constantly harassing Tk-Glitch in order to get it down so I could start working on the call audio stuff.

I'd wait for the script if I were you.
[Fascinate Android Development] nemesis2all:
Amen to that. Setting up dev environment is a pain. For laughs a couple of weeks ago I wanted to build a kernel and none of the source mtd kernels I built would boot. Keep up the good work tho.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I can teach people how better than that now. You were learning when it was harder. I'll write up instructions, or I'll be on IRC tonight.
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Everyone: go like my post on this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18121466

It's for me to get a fascinate to develop on.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
DOOO EEET

DOO EETT NAOOO!!

Sorry. Too much twitter today. :rolleyes:
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
I DONE ITTTT. I DONE IT A FEW MINUTES AGO

Hahaha. ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Apparently only four of you like me enough to go do it.... Lame! :p
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I did.
[Fascinate Android Development] Eris _2.1_2010:
I have my Jawbone Icon and Jawbone Era and my callers haven't said anything about an echo. Hope that helps.

Sent from my Glitched MIUI Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] Eris _2.1_2010:
I put in a thnx as well.

Sent from my Glitched MIUI Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] bigwilly90210:
Glad I'm not the only one at least. Ha. I feel slightly less lame. Lol. How late on IRC? cause I might not be able to get on till like 2am central time
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
Got ya

Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
Psst.. I was third :p just didn't voice it.

Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
I'll write instructions and post in the morning. I got called into work tonight.
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Damn that sucks. The getting called into work part. Not the post in the morning part. ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
Everyone, please take notice to this post by six. This would be a huge benefit to our most loved kernel and to future fixes to the many mtd annoyances ssx wants to fix

Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
I'm trying to figure out how to do it! I feel like a bum! Facebook, twitter, which one? I never mess with Facebook and I mostly browse from my phone cuz my laptop is ancient, mostly a flashing tool, I'm on it though. I want you to get that phone more than I want air.

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Follow the link. Then find his post and hit the thanks button if using a browser. If using tapatalk long press his post and hit thanks.
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
Oh that's it? I already did that. I thought he meant "liking" it on Facebook or something.

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
Nope. That's it. Just hit the thanks button. ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
Thou has been thanked, looks like dozens of others have jumped on board as well.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
Seeing as the contest is open til the 31st, it may help to update the OP with a link and brief shameless plug for votes. You know, for anyone late to the party...
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
It's not really whoever gets the most "thanks" that wins. I just wanted to show that I have support from the community. Thus far I say I'm winning based on that thread :)
[Fascinate Android Development] neh4pres:
There are only like 3 devs that work on hardware issues that I know of, and the glitch team is the one that most needs a device as you don't have one already, and the fact that the mods you do with the chip itself having a unbrickable device would be huge for everyone involved.

Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
Lolz, unless somebody else posts with much better reasons and more support than you then that is an easy contest. here's to strings!

If you get it you should do the unbrickable mod thing that guy posted in development; then you can do your worst to the phone and completely rape it with glitch awesomeness until it doesn't work any more!
[Fascinate Android Development] scarmon25:
I think its already been done to the device. I think I read that in the post. But I could be wrong.
[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
No, you're right, its brick-proof :D
[Fascinate Android Development] sixstringsg:
Yeah, it has.

Edit: Ninja'd