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[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
The Atrix has 3 major waves.

The first was unlocking the bootloader, and that opened a whole set of new ROMS and excitement.

The second is for the long awaited CM7, and what it will bring to the table.

The final major wave will be Ice Cream Sandwich. Even if ICS never becomes "official", there will be many ROMS based upon it.

Still plenty of life and goodness coming down the road... :)
[Atrix 4G General] karnovaran:
The days of rapid development for one device are over. Custom ROMs used to add features you couldn't get anywhere else but the gap is closing. Android is becoming a mature OS. Pick your hardware and enjoy.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....

And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".
[Atrix 4G General] Swiftks:
Yeah so much for the spell check; guess I have to get some what close :p

And by official CM7, I mean a build specifically for the prime, its hardware, etc. form the CM7 team themselves… not to knock the Atrix Dev teams release thus far, which I believe to be a wonderful effort.
[Atrix 4G General] wintermute000:
Er, because I don't want to spend 100s of dollars on something of comparable spec, and I'm v happy with Atrix battery, form factor, screen res and voice quality/speaker quality?

Alien, Aura etc. is pretty much debloated, CM7 or further revisions of above will complete the picture.
[Atrix 4G General] karnovaran:
They're playing coy but CM has hit its peak. We'll get it here, but beyond this generation of phones I wouldn't expect much.
[Atrix 4G General] geokhentix:
CM can't really "hit their peak" as the very base they use for their releases, is virtually a constant beta test(...android). That being said, I don't see any reason why CM can peak, when new features are and will continue to be pushed into Android daily. Honeycomb was mainly a release to make Android viable to tablets, so in the phone scene, CM skipped a gen as there are no phones(to my knowledge) that run Android 3.0. The CM team can't hit their peak until Google hits their peak.

With that being said, it's true that the forums are quiet lately, but aside from a few very difficult features, we don't really have any gripes, do we? CM is the end of any androids open development in my opinion anyway, after that...the only next best thing is...a higher version CM. :P
[Atrix 4G General] darkamikaze:
I think everyone is just itching for something to flash. :P

Xda app via atrix
[Atrix 4G General] karnovaran:
I simply mean their relevance has already crested. CM breathed new life into old hardware and extra features onto others to build their reputation but it seems Google and OEMs gave begun integrating many of CMs differentiatiors. Eventually it just can't have the impact it used to. That doesn't make it irrelevant, just less of a prime factor in purchasing decisions.

Don't get me wrong, I've been a CM faithful since before the Droid blew up Android.. but the reasons listed above combined with the extra projects they are all getting into seem to form an obvious case for lowered expectations.
[Atrix 4G General] Javi97100:
Lol I know I am
[Atrix 4G General] geokhentix:
There is though. CM is Android without the manufacturers mess of a launcher. Google has definitely integrated lots of CM's contributions to Android, but those can be pretty hard to see if the launcher in question is a big piece of crap..like Motoblur. :D

Honestly, I find it hard to see why people are upset with things in their current form. Motorola is going to be adding Webtop into all of it's higher end handsets, and webtop is pretty awesome. It's functions like that, that make it worth jumping from a bustling community like the Captivate, to the dead Atrix community, like I did. I don't miss my Captivate at all. I just miss Cyanogenmod. :P
[Atrix 4G General] WolfFX:
If you guys are tired of modding roms, maybe you could help me with my idea.

Its basically to create a rudimentary heatsink for the processor/gpu/memory chip.

I need lots of help since I'm no expert in the area :o and you gotta agree, this thing gets weirdly hot when playing games.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17281623#post17281623
[Atrix 4G General] Moonshield:
Hey

To my opinion, the main reason that the dev forum is somewhat dead is, as mentioned, due to the fact that the latest working official rom available for the atrix was released quite a long time ago (the 2.3 release...), and the modified roms that were released based on it reached a maximum in their optimization.

The next step is either optimize the available kernels for the atrix, to obtain maximum performances with minimum battery drainage; or to obtain a fully working CM7 rom, and once it will be available we will see a new burst of roms based on it, that will be stripped of any bloatware and additional junk courtesy of Motorola.

Of course, if the ICS will be released before reaching either one, the devs will leave them aside and focus on importing the ICS to the atrix. :p

Just my 2 cents...

:cool:
[Atrix 4G General] guybanda:
I think whats mainly been bothering me with this device is that there doesn't seem to be enough development effort put into its unique features; be it the fingerprint scanner or the webtop os or whatever.

CM7 is nice and all... but it doesnt make this device stand out among the rest. on the contrary.

even with cm7 out i highly doubt it will integrate the webtop or even the fingerprint scanner at some point.

to me the more relevant development going on right now is stuff like getting landscape hdmi mirroring to work, or ubuntu or whatever, but it seems to get so little support... i hate to see that all the devs are focused on just one thing which is cm7.. even kernel development seems to have come to a halt.

i recently just got a galaxy 2 (didnt actually plan to but the phone company pretty much threw it at me)

and while i enjoy it more at the moment being that im currently running MIUI on it and it doesnt even begin to compare with cm7 beta#3.

i have no doubt that this device will become quite irrelevant in the near future with devices like nexus prime and mi-one and whatnot overshadowing it.

however i do still believe that the atrix can come out ahead because of its unique features and badass battery and speakers and sound quality (which lacks on the GS2 imo)

which is why i dont intend on selling my atrix anytime soon.

i wish good luck to all the devs out there hard working and hope things pick up pace soon once cm7 is completed.
[Atrix 4G General] mandroid717:
maybe its something simple like school has started for the kids and the devs are focussed on there kids at the moment.........
[Atrix 4G General] Sass86:
Whatever is happening.. The devs put in great efforts for the atrix community. Most likely they are juggling personal lives along with building better mods. I know for a fact that they are trying to have the fingerprint scanner and webtop included in the cm7 release. I read it directly from a post from a dev. Be patient as they are treading in new territory and risking their phones to better ours. There has never been a webtop before, so figuring out all the files and paths connected to it takes time. I doubt we have been abandoned, quite the contrary, they would rather develop a fully aosp rom before ironing out other tweaks with mods. Their silence to me means they are taking it seriously and don't have time to fix our trivial problems atm.
[Atrix 4G General] Ilkinansr92:
I know that faux123 is busy with work ATM and doesn't have much time for developing. And I wouldn't be surpriced if other developers had the same thing life comes first and they are not obligated to always make things for us. Its not their job just a hobby. So wait for new things to comeout they will in time

Sent from my CM7 Motorola Atrix 4G
[Atrix 4G General] s1mpd1ddy:
When windows 8 drops ..... there's gonna be a group effort to get that running on our webtop. I guarantee it.

Sent from my alien
[Atrix 4G General] JayRolla:
Remember devs just tweak others work. Only cm7 was built from the original gb source. So for roms to come out a stable version of cm7 needs to be released. Once that happens they will start to pour out.
[Atrix 4G General] Jotokun:
Yep. Once CM7 is to a point where it can be used as a daily rom (that is, the camera and other missing stuff works), devs will have a good AOSP rom to use as a base. I think things will explode then.

Most hate Motoblur, and that includes developers. The ones who are interested have already brought blur based roms as far as they can go at the moment.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Just wait for CM7. Once that drops there will be hundreds of multiple threads about wanting to install it.

That will bring back some of the repeat "insult offenders" back to.

Then this place will start looking like the XDA Atrix forums once again... ;)
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
I've seen some people here argue that there is nothing else to dev on the Atrix.

Really?

How about the fact most our phones can't play race games because we can't keep our frigging fingers on the screen over 15 secs?

How about the fact the unlocking of webtop never went ahead to become noob friendly? Oh it has an automated script? Nice, but that never worked on my phone after GB, and also didn't in many others.

How about the fact we still don't have useful HDMI mirroring? Don't tell me we have mirroring, portrait mode is good for nothing.
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
Wait, we DON'T have that? ;)

I do wish webtop2sd/webtop development went on a bit further but you know, someone else might have to get interested in it and pick it up.

Other than that I am happy with my device right now.
[Atrix 4G General] Sinful Animosity:
Then get off of your ass and do it yourself. I see people complaining, and less people doing. The sense of entitlement in this thread is overwhelming.

Wah, no devs are working on my precious phone. Wah, no HDMI mirroring. Wah, can't flash. If you guys aren't willing to put in the work yourselves, don't complain when there's nothing coming in.

Better yet, if all of you have time to complain about nothing being done, you could be, I don't know, learning how to develop your own ROM/Kernel? You could help with CM7, or maybe WebTop mods.

All I see going on is complaining. Time for you guys to learn how to take care of yourselves. And don't give me the, "I have jobs, I have kids" excuse. These devs do these things for us in their spare time, and many of them most likely have full time jobs. They owe nothing to any of us. None of you have any room to complain until you actually contribute something.
[Atrix 4G General] Phoneguy589:
I think with the rumors/annoucing of new phones hitting the shelves this last part of the year might be putting damper on developing. The lapdock was expensive so I don't think it caught on as much as it could have plus adding a tethering plan was stupid....It's the phone that is surfing the net not the lapdock. With the Galaxy s II and the newer atrix rumor, the galaxy 3d.....who knows. I wish every phone that came out had the capability to be used on every carier...I'd probably have the Evo 3d.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Pretty sure what people mean by dying Dev for the Atrix is the complete lack of a built from the ground up ROM specifically for the atrix. CM7 is just a port, and every other ROM is just based on an official release. There is no equivalent to Cognition, Liberty, Oxygen, Fission etc. Those types ROM are usually as good as if not better than CM7 TBH, since they are designed for a specific device, so they generally perform better and get better support.
[Atrix 4G General] aaron.a:
the webtop project couldve been infinitely more badass :-\ but what are you gonna do? Motorola pinched penny's on the lapdock.. those things still being produced? cause if they are maybe well get the last laugh.

point is why put in the work when like 3 of us are foolish enough to pay high dollar for a brittle accessory
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Hate to break it to you, but devs aren't gonna spend that much time fixing a phone for games. Especially since gamers are more picky about things than the average phone user.

As for the rest, it's on hold because there's a HUGE demand for CM7, and then ICS afterwards!

I had my faults with the Atrix too, but I invested my free time into fixing them.

It's a great phone, but you gotta realize that NO PHONE can do everything... :)
[Atrix 4G General] guybanda:
obviously the webtop project is not intended for only those with a lapdock.

you just need a hdmi cable and a screen to get this working using the webtop hdmi mod.

this project should obviously have a lot more popularity then its currently having, i would even have suspected people to try and port it to other devices by now but seems its a bit left in the dark. shame.
[Atrix 4G General] Maroon Mushroom:
I'd agree with the Atrix sections being dead. Even for the captivate there is a TON more activity.

-Not enough devs

-Not enough updates from the few devs we have

-Low number of Atrix users

Honestly, the dev support is one of the biggest reasons I get a phone. And with the forums like they are, the current state of ROM dev, and the god awful battery life on this phone, I'm very disappointed and plan on switching phones soon. :(
[Atrix 4G General] IUH1991:
The last update for cm7 was about a week and a half ago. Plus, there are still constant updates for certain newer roms. Id hardly say that's dead. Quiet, but not dead.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
Most the devs are working together on cm7. after it is done they'll go back to their own individual projects.just be patient and good things will come!
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Except those other ROMs are just deoxed versions of the official firmware. They're all basically the same thing with each one having a slightly different theme or twist to them from the dev. All the core features and most of the added features are the same from one ROM to the other.
[Atrix 4G General] G-Man.:
Another reason the Captivate Devving is still so highly active is because the risk of permanently bricking a Captivate is quite literally 0.01% Its been called "un-brickable" by many different sources. People aren't afraid to just dive in and try new things and tear the code apart and put it back together, because if it fails, just jig it into download mode, and odin-one-click it back to factory and try again. I just recently sold my Captivate and didn't realize how much I'd miss it... If a manufacturer made a phone with the Atrix's hardware, and the "un-brickability" of the Captivate - it would be a WIN!
[Atrix 4G General] RogerPodacter:
It will be tempting, but its not such a clear decision. I went with the atrix cause its hardware can't be had anywhere else like the huge battery and excellent speaker, and I'm avoiding amoled screens cause I think they are power hogs, so the lcd was a plus for me. If the nexus prime is Samsung it will be very hard choice for me, I'm not a huge fan of Samsung.
[Atrix 4G General] guybanda:
i don't see why everyone's always rushing to newer phones; i remember the days when you got a phone you stuck with it for 2-3 years. and by today's standards this is still what the phone companies are charging. people barely have this one for a few months and can't wait to get a newer better one.

seems like a waste to me, i bought this phone because it seemed like the best all-around package to stick the next two years with untill something really cutting-edge hits. i really dont give a crap about a new google phone with another 0.5 on its processor because it doesnt translate in any way to real life performance, i can assure you.

a 0.2 inch bigger screen? wow, big difference, i'm sure it will change my life upside down.

however, if more work and effort is put into things like the webtop os, which is where i see the future of all phones heading. then it will make this phone a keeper for sure.

when we have truly turned our little phone into a usable, user friendly PC then its time to start looking at features like better processing power.

why the rush for all this overclocking??

my phone can't run any faster, infact im underclocking my atrix to save battery and still i cant tell the difference. sure, my benchmark scores are lower, so boo-hoo, quadrant tells me SG2 is better.

i have both phones,and i can assure you they both run fast enough you cant feel the difference.

does it really matter who benchmarks better? does it make your balls bigger?

instead of focusing on overclocking and kernels that squeeze that little tiny bit of extra processing from your little device, how about making it a device that could actually need that extra processing power first?

this device has such great potential, i cant see why people are missing it..

it feels like development has been sidetracked to simply squeezing out a bit more performance out of phone instead of actually developing new features and making these phones something bigger and better then they currently are.

heck, ive seen laptops with half the specs as this phone run a totally functional windows, why can't we reach for something like that instead of being focused on making fruit ninja run smoother?
[Atrix 4G General] Ilkinansr92:
Well OC is needed to run webtop better so ur argument kinda fails at that point ^^

Sent from my CM7 Motorola Atrix 4G
[Atrix 4G General] Ilkinansr92:
I would also recommend to close this thread as it is heading the wrong way and might make devs think their work is just a waist of time

Sent from my CM7 Motorola Atrix 4G
[Atrix 4G General] mac208x:
I noticed it also the ATRIX is dead, I rmr when I had captivate I flashed 2-3 roms a day! It was crazy, I miss those days :(
[Atrix 4G General] Moonshield:
I couldn't agree with you more! :D

I also underclock my device (though using faux123 1.3Ghz kernel), and I can't really think of the reason to overclock this device. It runs fast enough to deal with whatever I throw at it. I think that kernel developers (And that is in no way a remark or a complain, just a suggestion...) should focus on new governors that can provide a better battery saving (I used a kernel in my Hero days that had a governor called 'smartass' which was great!).

I really don't look at the near future to change my phone, I'm really happy with it. I tried SGS2 and Sensation, and I think that our is better then both.

BTW, can the stupid bug of the prolong clicking the screen can be fixed by custom rom/kernel? or it is something that we are forced to face?

:cool:
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Well that and the fact that Samsung has given tons of FREE phones to devs. Samsung got the concept and the importance of pleasing devs.

Moto under Sanjay with his locked BL and Motoblur was such a fail.

The processor, ram, and the potential of ICS is the only reason why I still have this phone.

I'm glad that Google bought Motorola. It's time to right the ship, and it starts with making current phones more Dev friendly. A leaked Vanilla Atrix ICS ROM by Google wouldn't hurt down the road... (hint hint) :)
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
@guybanda

So you think buying a phone every year is a waste, but you have both Atrix and the SGS2? Please elaborate further...

@Sinful Animosity

Im not complaining about the lack of activity from devs, I'm complaining about the people who think the Atrix has reached its top when it clearly hasn't. You got me wrong there, no feeling of entitlement, just sad it didn't go further.
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
When cm7 comes out I think development will pick back up. This phone is underrated and just needs some time. And some google love.

Iphone > galaxy s 2.
[Atrix 4G General] guybanda:
I actually did not buy the S2 but recieved it practically for free shortly after i bought the atrix.

seeing how i have both devices i figured i might aswell use them both.

so my conclusion was that while the atrix is definitely less easy on the eyes performance wise i feel no difference. the SGS2 gets a lot hotter and has a much shorter battery but samsung is now releasing a 2000 mAh battery which should bring it up to par, the screen on the SGS2 seems to look a lot better but at closer inspection you realize the whites are very very yellow, which seems to make it easier on the eyes, blacks are very good as you would expect from a amoled. sound quality is better on the atrix by far.

all that aside - even with the huge amount of devs on the galaxy, i feel it will soon enough just be another one of the full range of high-end devices, while atrix will remain very unique and it will only take a handful of devs to bring it to its true glory.

like i said im not selling it anytime soon, when i bought it it was not yet unlocked and i knew that waiting would pay off in the long run, i believe this is still the case for this device as we have not reached even half of its potential.

i agree very much with your comment to sinful animosity; no one is feeling entitled to anything here, we just hope that devs will see past this cm7 frenzy once its finished and continue to bigger and more important developments for this device.

this thread is not meant to disrespect the devs in anyway but on the contrary - to show that they are the flesh and blood of this device and are what will keep it going in the long run.

people are simply dissapointed with the "weak" turn out of support for this device which was one of the most promising devices when it came out, i guess alot of people, like me, are suprised that it simply didnt attract as much attention as it should have.
[Atrix 4G General] jwhited:
Coming from a Captivate to the Atrix, development does seem pretty slow. The fact that many of the ROMs haven't been updated in 2-3 months would be a nail in the coffin on the Captivate.. And when development first started on CM7, nightlies started rolling out rather quickly. I don't think there's quite the same level of passion for Atrix developers. It's kinda unfortunate, really.
[Atrix 4G General] karnovaran:
I don't think it has anything to do with lack of passion. CM requires keeping all hardware features intact. The fingerprint scanner and webtop have never been dissected, whereas phones like the Captivate could draw on the crapload of work done before it came along plus the other models of Galaxy S.

If our pre-beta build was for a phone with the Captivate's hardware, it would probably have been done weeks ago given the only standard feature with issues is the camera. Unfortunately for those who are impatient, the extra hardware means it'll take longer.

I'm just glad the stock ROM from which others are building is actually pretty good. Much slimmer than Sense 3.0.
[Atrix 4G General] Sinful Animosity:
Post wasn't aimed at you exclusively. I've seen so much of the complaining in every thread.
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
My phone before this was a RAZRv3. Had it for about 8 years and worked just fine. Smartphones can't be expected to last that long though. I do intend to keep the Atrix until it becomes functionally defunct (3 to 4 years?)
[Atrix 4G General] IUH1991:
And just imagine how good the phones will be then.
[Atrix 4G General] Eddie Bombay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg