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[General Topics] GadgetMonger:
Yup. The epic is a piece of junk imho. Never had much luck with samsung devices. That being said, I will be getting the Galaxy SII... Got to, my tag isn't GadgetMonger for nothing. Wouldn't give up my 3D for it though. Hell no.

As for Sprint trying to block people from upgrading, you're probably right. I don't understand why it matters to them though, if they're selling phones they're selling phones. Seems like that would be a good thing. Why make it a pain in the a$$?
[General Topics] p-slim:
They would also both need to be running aosp roms otherwise your only testing sense vs touchwiz. This is something many people forget also.
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
True.

Looks like the Evo 3D is going to be a harder sell them my Evo 4G. When I placed the sale ad for my Evo 4G I sold it the next day and received a lot of emails everyday after for about a week. I placed my ad for my 3D about 3 days ago and have not received one email yet. How much are people listing there 3D's for? I have mine at $325 right now.
[General Topics] Success100:
DAMN...I've sold at least 6 evo's on Craigslist to that same effect. As soon as I post them, they are sold. I was thinking on putting mine up for 350. And selling my iPad2. Kinda won't need it with a 4.5 inch display that's just as smooth as iOS

sent from my DAMN 3D!!!
[General Topics] brownhornet:
I got off mine for $350. Make sure you put its rooted in the ad that generally helps.
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
Always do..... Guess anyone who knows what rooted means also knows the SGS2 is coming out. :(
[General Topics] kawaski47:
This
[General Topics] mancuk29:
Funny I'm thinking of going from s2 to evo should. I not bother?
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
Depends on what you are looking to do or gain by the move.
[General Topics] mancuk29:
Like gadgets have s2 camera is superb, just like moving with technology
[General Topics] boe:
I'm really anxious for the Sprint Epic Touch but I'm waiting for reviews on the signal quality before I jump in again. I naively bought the EVO 3D assuming the phone would work as a phone. I can't imagine the Sprint Epic Touch could be worse but no point in me jumping until I'm sure it is better. I need to dump the 3D because of the crappy call quality either way but I'm going to be a bit more cautious this time.

I realize I'll probably get squat for the 3D when I sell it but it will be worth it to get rid of this thing.
[General Topics] rockky:
Hate to bear bad news but in call sound quality was not the SGS2's strength. I have to use an app to get volume I need.
[General Topics] nhutpham:
Good info, but it's hard to say that comparison holds with the Sprint version being on a cdma radio - the quality of the radio on the evo 3D is in question at this point.

I personally have noticed ups and downs with reception on my evo3d. This at least gives me some hope as Sprint has supposedly been overhauling their network since Verizon cut them off from some of their towers. Lately my reception has actually been pretty good in the bay area. Call quality hasn't really been much of an issue for me, when I have reception calls are clear.
[General Topics] madmax2k1:
I'm sticking to the Evo3D unless the SGS2 blows me away.
[General Topics] graffixnyc:
I pass by a sprint store everyday, When it's released I will go in and play with one.. if it blows me away, then I might go for it.. if not, then I'll just hold onto my evo 3d and wait for prime
[General Topics] ricocollege:
? What? My 3vo plays any of my video formats through my media server no problem. It has a higher resolution screen and the benchmarks are hampered my sense being a hog not the processor. The benchingmarks on 3vo's running asop are not getting out proformed by the Sg2, its kicking its ass. Even Sg2 running on asop.

Stop passing false info. The sg2 is a sexy device and if you want it that's fine. It is not even close to being better than the 3vo. And selling lots of phones mean nothing but to sheep of the world, look at the iPhone.

Like I said, the prime is the only real phone that might be an improvement of the 3vo.

Sent from my Evo 3D
[General Topics] mlin:
Yes, with the prime being right around the corner I think I'll wait. I have the 3d and the sgs2 really isn't an upgrade from this device and since it will lost likely be one or the other for me, I'll wait for tje prime.

tapa tapa tapa
[General Topics] rockky:
Loved the Evo 3D...still do...still have it.

My SGS2 is just a significantly better device tho...

If you live with both devices you'll know it.

B][/B]
[General Topics] boe:
I'd say any phone that let's me make calls without people saying can you repeat that or dropping the call is an improvement. So in some ways my 4 year old HTC Sprint Touch that runs WM 6.5 is an improvement over the 3D.
[General Topics] daneurysm:
...as is my LG Lotus and LG Fusic :(

I sadly agree.
[General Topics] jdawglx01:
My 3d has none of these reception issues, actually it is quite fantastic in-call. My wife's Evo Shift will drop a call if you hold it between your head and shoulder almost instantly... LOL
[General Topics] Sharow:
Iam from Europe, the SGSII is beeing purchased for months now and ive to say after i tryed both, i like the evo more just because of HTC SENSE, i dont like the design of the SGSII, it looks a bit like the iphone. Ive to say, for me, the SGSII wasnt even noticable faster.
[General Topics] auau465121:
Wirefly - First Review part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3p8UaIpsoY&feature=player_embedded
[General Topics] mlin:
Wow! That phone is stupid big. I like the form factor of the e3d more than the og EVO so I can imagine I won't like the size of the sgs2 at all. I hope Samsung doesn't go much bigger than 4" for the prime.

tapa tapa tapa
[General Topics] daneurysm:
I'll watch that in a little bit. Buffering@1080.

I've not gotten "excited" for this phone. I got so excited over the E3D only to be let down by basic things...then I got an NS4G as a place-holder for a few weeks, then I got excited again and returned that for the E3D....again....and I've tried to love it, and in theory I do, but, that damn it's been bitter sweet and I just can't abide by my decision anymore. I need my phone to work as a phone, among a list of other issues.

Which brings me (and all of us) to this thread.

I've not gotten 'excited' about this phone because, frankly, this upgrade cycle has been misery and I'm wary of another gigantic let-down....though something tells me that this video will challenge my ability to temper my emotions.
[General Topics] Success100:
Whatever your smoking, please share. Benchmarks mean NOTHING. If a motorola flip phone had better benchmarks than a s2 would that matter? No. It's all about which one offers a better end user experience. I'm not gonna debate which one is better..it's whatever tickles your fancy. All I know is that my OG galaxy s is way faster than this custom kernel custom rom 3d. I can't understand how it couldn't be better. Hmm. Better SoC (don't care about benchmarks)..better cameras..better screen technology..more dev support, and if we get lucky..it will serve it's primary function of being a GOOD PHONE. hey man, whatever suits you is fine with me, all I know is the only thing the 3d has going for it is better resolution with terrible viewing angles and feels solid as hell and this is coming from a HTC fanboy.

The s2 is hailed as one of the best smartphones ever made, the 3d has no such achievements besides being the first to have 3d. I think the 3d had so much potential, but the things it needs most, like a good radio, solid speakers,and reliable power button, it fails at

Also when it comes to video...I have a ton of saved YouTube videos, porn lol, and recorded videos on my sd card. The 3d will play them, but no where near as smooth as on an OG galaxy s.

Don't get me wrong...there are things about the 3d I love as I already stated...I just know that I was far happier with the OG galaxy s than I am with this...and it should not be like this with the 3d being far more powerful.
[General Topics] :
Id get it. Im just too broke and lazy to switch. Plus Im used to HTC.

Free Dirk!!!
[General Topics] daneurysm:
*I* have an Evo 3D which I rather enjoy, for the most part. However *I* am considering (probably will be) getting an SGS2. I had a number of issues which I discussed. One of which being a deal breaker. Perhaps someone knew of a fix for my problems and could helpfully tell me "before you do that, try this!" That would be useful.

Or perhaps I'm clinging to this Evo 3D unreasonably--I am on my 3rd one after all, with no resolution to any problems but I keep trying......I would say that is at least a hair past what is actually rational to deal with. Someone with a clearer perspective could chime in and say "Listen, with problems as bad as what you are experiencing it's only reasonable to expect the device to do as advertised, you should probably go with the SGS2 (or some other device)."

But if your phone is more of a fashion statement for you then I guess I see where you are coming from.
[General Topics] NewZJ:
why not wait for nexus prime?
[General Topics] daneurysm:
Also a possibility... though my problem with the phone turning on, charging and shutting itself off keep getting worse even though I haven't changed anything. I've nandroided my setup and went back to bone stock, no help, just got worse. It acted the same bone stock before s-off but not as often. Now it happens more and more, who knows when the nexus prime will come out at this point, and aside from the 300mhz difference (and slightly smaller screen with much higher resolution but much narrower aspect ratio) is likely pretty much the same phone internally.....I just want a phone that I can expect to turn on reliably and hopefully get a better signal, but, I don't wanna get to extravagant here ;)
[General Topics] pukemon:
Again the phone isn't even out. This version gs2 could fry your balls and do you want to be the first one on xda 'splainin' this tragedy?

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[General Topics] :
The Evo 3D wasnt out and people were talking about jumping ship to it.

Free Dirk!!!
[General Topics] Jorge330823:
Zedomax on YouTube has a sgs2 video out. I think personally if I were you I would just wait until the ice cream sandwich comes out on a sprint (hopefully a prime) device. Just seems kinda pointless to jump from one gb device to another.
[General Topics] Jorge330823:
Or it could explode in your ear like a droid
[General Topics] rockky:
I have both the Evo 3D and SG2.....and have barely looked at the 3D in a month. Strip the bloatware, run LauncherPro etc....and its just not a contest to me. The Evo's been great. Had the first since day one. But Samsung's just bringin' it.

Even the breaking sG2's will quickly be yesterday's tech with the 'SG3' breaking in 5ish months.

Is what it is.
[General Topics] ms79723:
I would get it but....I gotta draw the line somewhere. Phones are getting better and better, but I feel like...if I keep on getting new phones, I'll never be satisfied. So I'm just going to appreciate what I have now. BUT, I will be getting the iPhone if it comes to Sprint. And I want the iPhone so I can mess around with my 3D. I'm one of those people who will say something like "let me just flash this real quick and that'll be it..." then I end up all day in recovery mode trying new stuff out. That was cool during summer break, but I need my phone now >.<
[General Topics] daneurysm:
True...and given my previous experiences with pre-release speculation and actual delivery of the device over the past 25 years I'm going with my gut on this and expect that I have a pretty good idea of what to expect except for key variables. Radio strength is one. Battery life is another. Software updates from the manufacturer is another, but, I'm on XDA...as long as Samsung continues to be forthcoming with their kernel source I'm not terribly concerned about that facet.

One of the things that is typically not an expected variable is the power button behaving in any but a predictable manner, the same for plugging in a charging cable. Once again, these can't be planned for. They are also outlying examples. You and I and everybody who buys a device rolls those same dice every time.
[General Topics] Success100:
I will honestly pitch the 3d as soon as September 16th gets here.

4.5 inch super amoled plus goodness...amazing camera optics, Samsung video codecs and exynos. I dearly love my EVO but I CANNOT pass this up. I still miss my galaxy s 4g

sent from my DAMN 3D!!!
[General Topics] tatnai:
these threads sure are good for laughs, though. kinda like a tabloid at the supermarket, you just can't help but read it even though the principle is disgusting.

(um, the idea of a thread with this topic is not disgusting, but the fact that a new one pops up every time the last one reaches page 2 is. and then on we go with the same $hit a$$ arguments. i mean really, how many times have we got to do this???)

EDIT: ok props to some clear-headed thinking on this page, otherwise my statement stands. take credit if you want it ;)
[General Topics] jenna728:
Wouldn't trade my 3D for anything, especially not a Samsung. No issues whatsoever with mine, great devs and I love the 3D pics and movies.
[General Topics] felacio:
---------------sun news--------------

galaxy s ii proven to be yhe gayeway to hell

evo3d give cancer to batboy

how to win a free enema!
[General Topics] Jorge330823:
Does anybody else just honestly not see the 3d? The phone is exceptional not gonna deny that but I just can't see the 3d at all it looks like a blur :/
[General Topics] jenna728:
Try this & ff to 1:40 lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUsqwaeDekM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[General Topics] fczeuner:
When I dumped the Epic I said never again. I need to see how Samsung supports the Sgs2 before I give them another shot at my money

Besides my EVO 3D has been great. Feels quality in my hand.

Good luck with your Sgs2

Sent from my Steel infused EVO 3D
[General Topics] :
Heres what I do. Hold the phone in 3d camera mode and have someone stand about 4 feet in front of you. Tell them to point their finger at you through the camera and tell them to slowly move it forward and closer. Youll see 3d alright. Its ****ing nuts.

Free Dirk!!!
[General Topics] daneurysm:
My god that sounds like such trollbait on the surface. But, having come to my latest E3D after a few weeks with an NS4G (built off of essentially the same SoC platform) I can tell anyone who would doubt you that it is 100% true. That mere single-core measly 1ghz "last year tech" has the best "Android Experience" I have ever experienced. By far. The E3D doesn't even come close.

I'm talking about a bone-stock Epic or NS4G vs the most heavily modded E3D you've got. The UI experience alone is so fast and smooth and jitter free and iPhone4 level of buttery smooth.

It sucks. It offends my sensibilities. It's also true. It has nothing to do whatsoever with me leaving my E3D for an SGS2. But it is true.
[General Topics] jmall1:
I own both the Epic and the E3D, so get that BS out of here. The 3D is a much faster and smoother phone. No comparison! It kills it in real world activity and in every benchmark test. Until the Epic Touch launches this is currently the most powerful phone out. It's also the slickest.
[General Topics] daneurysm:
To be honest I've never used an epic (I think they are physically ugly as sin) but was under the assumption that the Epic and NexusS series were functionally identical, hardware wise. They may well be different...

...but I absolutely could not find a way in which the E3D out-paces an NS4G, especially in 'fluidity.'

Now, as was made very apparent with the E4G 30fps cap debacle last year, a lot of people simply cannot notice FPS over 30. This may be an instance of that. Perhaps I am extra sensitive to it...when I installed netarchy's kernel on the NS4G and overclocked the hell out of it my FPS2D score went up from 55-57 to 60-64 and I noticed that even before I did FPS2D tests.

Neither phone stops or slows down or truly lags in any way functionally beyond visually. These phones are just too damned fast. If they aren't accessing storage it's hard to tell the performance difference between an E4G, E4GS, NS4G, E3D, Photon, SGS1, SGS2, etc etc etc aside from raw frame rate. None of this stuff is GPU bound either considering that none of these phones (besides the SGS2) have real hardware acceleration enabled.

IMHO the NS4G (and I assumed Epic based on the assumption that they were identical in hardware) has unparalleled fluidity of any of the above listed phones (barring the SGS1 and SGS2 which I have never used).

Maybe it's just a Nexus thing, I recall the N1 spanking my E4G in the same exact way even though they were essentially identical.
[General Topics] galaxywhat?:
Wow. This sucks. did anyone who watched the wirefly video notice that the phone used looks different than the press images (in terms of logos)? I personally thought the "galaxy s2" logo on the back looked nice. Oh well. it's the phone that matters.
[General Topics] JTNiggle:
Ur right, I like the back of the press release phone better, and the front of the wirefly review phone, don't like the Samsung logo above the screen.
[General Topics] kawaski47:
Its a trade off then i guess! So who is getting this through wirefly? I WANT to BUT am scared that i may get a nerfed/defective phone and would want to be able to swap it at a store than mail it in
[General Topics] Success100:
Please. The epic had touchwiz on it. The ns4g doesn't. Thats the main diff. Plus a KB. Same guts. Hummingbird SoC.

Not saying the 3d is slow, because it's not when it comes to launching apps and handling tasks. It's just not as fluid at ALL. Samsungs are butter smooth. I'll tell u this. Call me a troll or whatever, but I almost wish I had picked up the ns4g when I switched to sprint instead of the 3d. I thought with a 1.2ghz dual core plus adreno 220 that they would be able to make it a butter smooth experience. It's not at all. Not even close to a last gen Galaxy device.

Benchmarks mean nothing to me. I will miss the higher res screen, but to be honest it's a middle of the road LCD with higher ppi. The only other thing I'll miss is sense. It's very very useful. Other than that, I'll pitch this thing at the next brick wall I see lol. No i won't but I will sell it In the next week.

I'm happy some of you have problem free 3d's that actually work decently. Ms tho, I've been thru two of these already, and it's the same bull**** as the 1st one. Terribly dissappointed in this thing. To think I couldn't WAIT to get it.

On another note. The Prime looks awesome..but no telling who it's going to and when it's coming (sources say October.) but I think there I'd no point in waiting.. There's always something better on the horizon. I'll get the s2 and if the prime comes to sprint soon after I'll pitch the s2

Your right ns4g, epic and all the galaxy phones had same processor and displays. Varying amounts of memory but the main difference is the ns4g is the only one the was stock gingerbread.
[General Topics] cajones42:
a nexus is smooth because it is bloat free. the epic is not. my nexus is very smooth and i cant tell a difference between it and my 3d. if you have alot of pics on both phones, the 3d will breeze through the gallery unlike any single core device ive ever seen.
[General Topics] JTNiggle:
I'm thinking about ordering from wirefly, using the airave upgrade, see if that works out. I ordered my first Evo 3d and my old Evo 4g from them, always went well, so hopefully it stays that way.

I've got a spare line to put it on, so I can go back and forth between it and the 3d easily to see which I really like best.
[General Topics] jmall1:
Ok then try running 1080p video inside the browser or running games such as Electopia at a buttery smooth 40fps framerate. Guess what. You can't. I've played around with ns4g it's smooth when compared to other single core handsets and maybe a Tegra 2 based phone, bit that's it. The E3d is a whole different. When it recieves AOSP it will be unbelievable.
[General Topics] famouzdev:
My nexus s 4G out does my 3d in terms of smoothness, evo 3d is falling behind mainly cause there's no aosp for it.. seem like Ice cream will be here before we get cm7 from word thts going around. But let's not forget tht ginger bread is not optimized for dual core that was stated awhile ago, ice cream will put dual cores to the test then we will no which is truly better. Dual core with right software will beat out a single core hands down. If you really want to test how fast a galaxy s is port sense 3.5 it will slow down for sure
[General Topics] jmall1:
If you mean the stock launcher for the EVO isn't so smooth then I get what you're saying. That's pretty known fact that the stock launcher is laggy. That's not an hardware issue but a software issue. I have always used launcher pro, now my EVO is extremely smoooth and well integrated. The only advantage the ns4g has is updates and Aosp. No comparison otherwise.
[General Topics] famouzdev:
I use adw its fast but my nexus is just as fast...sense is going to slow no matter Wht u cover it up with, its still sense. Like I stated 3d lacks aosp which really starting to be a issue it seem. I think Hp touchpad will see before us with how fast they coming along on there
[General Topics] toneman1984:
cyanogen mod on the sensation is much faster than with modded sense 3.0 roms. Something about sense 3.0 bogs down the system was the quote. AOSP on Sensation & Evo3D will show the true potential of the phone, not that it doesn't already kick ass with awesome dev support.
[General Topics] bobdude5:
i dont see this lag you guys are talking about. On the sensation yes theres a little, but the evo 3d flys. Not only is sense a great user interface, it now has the proper hardware to support it.

Now im still going to test out the galaxy s2 in hopes of a cm7 rom (hate touchwiz on phones) but ill wait till i have it for a few weeks for which one i plan to keep
[General Topics] jmall1:
Exactly. My phone has ZERO lag. It's incredibly fast and stable. What interests me about the Epic Touch is the 4.5 inch amoled screen, hardware accelerated browser, Exynos processor, better cameras, better speaker, and vertical mounted charging cable. This phone is the only phone better than the E3D. My E3D flys through every graphically intensive game I throw at it Angry Bots, Electopia, Fast Five, Riptide, etc. People are complaining because of the simple fact HTC hyped up the 3d aspect. This phone can playback 1080p videos to my flat screen. I'm sorry, but that's simply amazing.
[General Topics] vszulc:
Thing is though, isn't the SGS2 kinda old by now? Well, not old, but It's almost six months since it was released. While Its by no means old or lagging, wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the Nexus Prime, rather than switch to the GS2?
[General Topics] jyan_osu:
The lag only exhibits itself when there are new phones announced. It's this really interesting phenomenon where phones work smoothly from scrolling and games that are currently available, but the aura emitted by these new announcements interfere with the operations of the phones to cause stuttering and delays.

This phenomenon intensifies when the new phones come closer to market. You might also see more force closings and reboots occurring as the date approaches.

No one knows why this happens and why it only shows up with certain people. Studies show that it happens more often to those with more disposable income and/or those that must have the latest and greatest no matter what the time frame is.

Finally, there have been sightings of many people who don't see this and are quite happy with what they have.

:)
[General Topics] firmbiz94:
One place I've noticed a big difference between my og.and the e3d is when opening large lists. Ie going into settings/applications and then the list appears of all apps ..on my og.It would take a while to load up everything with the icons etc. Same thing when opening the gallery ..
[General Topics] p-slim:
Some people just don't understand. By the time an aosp rom is finally available for the SGS2, the prime will be out