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[General Topics] dannstarr:
I'm a lover of all tech, especially mobile phones, which is probably the reason why I came to XDA.

I can appreciate that apple do put out a nice product, their build quality and focus on user experience is commendable. They launched a few select products that catapulted them from failure to the largest company in the world. Tell me 10-15 years ago that they'd be bigger than micosoft today, and i'd call you a fool.

I like that they put out good quality products, that many of my friends and family love to use..... without these idevices, many "normal" people that i interact with would just have their basic phone call and barely txt enabled original nokia devices, which they would only own as a means to an end..... but now they have iphones and this seems to spark a bit of tech interest in them..... i like this.

I believe the iphone spawned competition from the Big G, who then took forward Android. Android exploded, and I have to say is bar far my OS of choice. It is not perfect, far from it, but for everything that it is, it is my favourite.

Up to a point, the recent years have only been good when it comes to new mobile tech..... Apple, it now seems are hell bent on destroying that.

I cant see how Android copies anything from iOS - if it did, I'd have no need to buy Android. iOS could do everything Android does, if it wanted to, but it doesn't - they are different, very different, and it gives us, the end consumer, choice. I like choice, and I like choosing Android, and I make this choice because it is different to iOS.

Apple, if you want my money, STFU and make me want your next product, dont try and ban me from buying what I really want, in the belief that if it aint got your logo no one could possibly want it
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
apple hasn't innovated much since the release of the original iPhone but still, it was innovation and that's more than what can be said about any android device.
[General Topics] narta:
Apple's greatest innovation is patent trolling everyone. They should file for a Patent Trolling patent
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
They revolutionized smartphones like it or not. Before ios came out android looked like a cheap blackberry ripoff... Instead of a cheap ios ripoff.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Very true. But Google took the iOS foundation and made it more user friendly. One example is the switches of various functions. In iOS, to turn on the Bluetooth, you go through a number of menus to get to the switch. In Android, you press one button on a homescreen or elsewhere and Bluetooth activates and connects to the device you normally connect to...except for Samsung phones, which turn the BT on but you have to go into the BT menu and manually select to connect to the desired device.

Android is more user friendly, but is not as reliable or simple as iOS.

Apple leads the way for all others to follow...except Microsoft. WP7 is a system to its own and is a sweet system. But all of the others follow Apple's leads...they use Apple as their research and development lab.
[General Topics] wendellc:
How, by utililizing full touch experience?

Touch technology existed before iphone so how is that innovative.

In the early 2000 pda phones made by companies like hp, siemens, etc all implemented touch in their products. Im sure a company like apple got their inspiration from those products.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
You're forgetting that little thing called the LG Prada. You're also forgetting the app grid Nokia has been using on all their phones in the last decade. And you're forgetting the Sony Ericsson UIQ phones, which were "big frikkin' touchscreen" phones. As well as all the PDAs, like wendellc already mentioned.

Do you know why Android looked differently before? Availability of technology. Capacitive touchscreens weren't commodity hardware yet. But as soon as they became affordable to be put into consumer products, two companies set out to create a product with them. Then others followed. And Apple wasn't the first, as I mention above it was LG.

And if Android is nothing more than a "cheap ripoff", then what is Apple so afraid of? Why the patent rampage? If their products are so innovative and great, no one would want to buy anything else. The "cheap phones" argument that people like to use doesn't cut it either, because the most popular Android phones aren't cheap, they're in the same price class or even more expensive than the iPhone.

Oh, and if Apple is so innovative, then why is all the new stuff in iOS5 copied from Android and Windows Mobile and elsewhere?

Oh well, in the end I did go write the rebuttal I said I won't. Even though I know it's useless, because no matter how many times people mention that what Apple does is neatly repackage what was there before (and then markets the hell out of it), some individuals caught in the RDF will continue to hail Apple as the inventor of everything. Oblivious to the fact that Apple is actually a newbie in the field of mobile communications.

As iOS5 clearly shows, Apple has exhausted their "innovations". That's why they litigate, they know they won't be able to stay on top otherwise. Well, even litigation won't help them. Because the attackers have struck back. And now Apple is whining "how dare they"?? Pathetic really.
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This has been a fun thread to read..trolls and anti-trolls everywhere! Anyways..So....My name is Cimer, it's been 21 days since I've trolled....

All useless/false information aside I though iOS was before Android? So what did you say..."Before ios came out android looked like a cheap blackberry ripoff"..How could this statement be true if the iPhone came out in 2007 and the G1 came out in 2008. Also I don't see the black berry OS looking like the original Android at all...in fact it looks more like iOS due to the largeness of the icons and the docky thingy.

ANDROID RULES! Apple u mad bro? and yes Apple did revolutionize something...The need not to have glasses while using smart phones

Hi...My name is Cimer, it's been 0 days since I've trolled....

XDA tried giving me a virus...I knew they were spys
[General Topics] Altimas:
Back on topic. Apple is going to have a tough uphill battle in the coming months. Steve Jobs stepping down almost inline with Apple losing the Samsung EU case (of course Apple fans will still call it a win), seems a little bit of a coincidence. Perhaps he knew the blow he just took in that even patent litigation wont help Apple.

Also going to the courts against the manufacturers is like fighting a hydra. If they really wanted to slow down Android they needed to go after Google.

I'll conclude with saying pro Android people shouldn't hate, definitely have an opinion but keep in mind that competition is a good thing. The more Apple (or any other tech company) ups the bar the more pressure is on Android to up its game and in the end the consumer being YOU wins.
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Thanks for insulting my words. Also we have every right to hate. Apple tried to banish Android products! How would you feel if I took away your phone and said no, you can't have it. Now to be fair Corporations do this all the time..Apple just makes it more public and whines about it more, everyone hates that person who is unnecessarily loud.
[General Topics] Tachi91:
Apples that annoying kid on the block that needs to get jumped

A good ass beating is in order both street wise and American Correctional Facility ass beating (hehehe) :cool:
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XDA needs to stop making my anti-virus pop up and add a +1 button just for these kinds of things
[General Topics] Doomofman:
Apple's reaction to Android is like a spoilt little kid that when he doesn't get his way, he takes his ball and goes home so none of the other kids can play...
[General Topics] br13an:
THIS.

So true, it is getting a bit annoying though,

the only thing you read about on tech sites is apple sueing a company...
[General Topics] Doomofman:
Yeah it's frustrating as hell, I mean, I don't particularly like Apple products but I've never really minded the company until the last few months all they've been doing is suing companies who make products that compete with theirs...
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
I've never said Apple was currently innovative. Their products are boring, tasteless, and are better as toys than anything else. However, they did innovate with the original iphone. Yes, the LG prada exists. I think like 4 people owned it and the phone itself was an issue. The market as it was is something no one can imitate, a touch UI made for fingers was even innovative at that point. Prior to that our best option was the touchwiz overlay on WM5.

iOS is terrible and completely washed up, as is android in my opinion. They've both about hit the ceiling on their capabilities. It's Microsoft's integration with their other devices that will bring about the future.
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I think I'll stay away from your opinions your facts don't add up..
[General Topics] TheATHEiST:
Do you use dog sh1t for toothpaste?.. because you sure are talking allot of it!

iOS is not and has never been innovative, They simply have the best marketing team.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
All I can say is when the first iPhone came out, it was a breath of fresh air; it was a major relief from the other BS that was being shoved down our throats. iOS was the best and sweetest smartphone OS ever invented. But if Android FroYo or Gingerbread had been released at that time, it would have been just as sweet.

Also, I guarantee, if WP7 had been released at the same time as the first iPhone...as good as it is today...it would have killed iPhone sales dead. Guaranteed.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Again, someone throwing around senseless and childish insults. I didn't know that so many 12 year olds were crack flashers.

and Marty, I disagree. If froyo or Gingerbread had been released alongside iOS iOS would still be doing well because androids user experience can't even compare to iOS... as tragic as that is because I am not fond of the user experience on iOS either. As a power user, yeah, you can customize... woohoo. As a day to day user it's just a cheap iphone.
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What's worse? Fake facts and failing to acknowledge it? Or handing out insults because of it.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
What fake facts might you be referring to? I tend to rely primarily on my opinions. If I wanted to rely on facts then I'd stick to the fact that google is a company who's primary job is to steal information. It's no shocker that nothing they do is innovative, the last thing that was innovative about android was the chin on the phones.
[General Topics] sygeek:
Brief this statement.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
lol...I've always found that chin to be rather ugly and un-comely. But I also saw the G1 as a horrific looking phone. And I never saw the trackball as being useful. Maybe because of the nightmare with my Blackberry Pearl Flip.

Hmmm...thinking back on it now...I am inclined to agree that Android, at least in the beginning, wasn't very innovative at all. I remember my feelings and curiosities over the G1 coming back to me. I thought of it as a gimmicky and fugly joke. But I can't say that about FroYo or Gingerbread...especially Gingerbread. Those are some sweet systems...if you get the right hardware.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
They're an advertising company, their primary concern is to find advertisements that pertain to you via cookies. They look at your location, they look at what you look up, there's even indication that they're pulling from more private places as well.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Froyo and Gingerbread really aren't as different from the old android 1.5 as people act. Either way it's reliant on the hardware manufacturers entirely and will never be as smooth or as user friendly as other OSes.
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Interesting..So you're like a....I don't know what to call it since it's so far fetched? You base opinions on your opinions?

I'm referring to a wrong time line, wrong comparison, highly biased and highly unsupported statements. Hell everything you say can and will be considered as crap because you don't support it. Now this makes sense that you're getting your opinions from your own opinions(I think?). However the only way to get a valid opinion on something is to either experience it (I don't think you've had anything stolen from you by Google) or from previous situations/ facts. Now what I can tell is Google has not stolen anything. You may say "THE GRID THE GRID THE GRID" yea..no. The Grid was the way to format your screen. You can see this in almost any operating system (Excluding oddly enough Grid OS). Now to say someone stole the idea is like saying we can't use round tires because well...they're round and it works well. You may say Android has hit it's pinnacle, but no I don't think so. It was said today that Android had 40% of all US Smart Phones. Android is also linux and Linux is not limited by possibilities (This is shown from the variety of UI layers and Linux distributions) ..It's limited by the people. That 40% shows that we're not on a shortage of people and it also shows that you just spew anything out to support yourself and pass it along as it is a fact. I do agree that Windows phone 7 is on the rise, but for most users it's hard to go from a decent sized app store, full features, and complete customization of their device to a product that is still young and still needs a lot of work.
[General Topics] dre89:
Oh this story is BEAUTIFUL. Apple shouted and wined and complained and sued themselves into a corner and now they think it's not fair that everyone is suing them back.

As Katt Williams said in a show before, you can walk into the club and say F everybody, but you can not then walk back to your car.

Good luck getting back to your car Apple
[General Topics] MartyLK:
If you're as big as a bear and just as tough, you can walk into any bar and tell everyone to kiss your @$$ and dare anyone to do anything about it.

Maybe Apple is just that big and tough.
[General Topics] StoneColdCarl:
Good find. Some people say that as long as the company's products are good, then it shouldn't matter what the type of company is but I disagree. Especially if the products are overpriced, I want my money going to a company that has SOME integrity (not saying that others are angels of course).
[General Topics] dre89:
Only if your superhuman. A big bear with busted kneecaps is not that big.

Apple might be big but I wonder how well their knees can take the shots if someone starts swinging a crowbar around
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Of course they have 40 percent of the US market. It's the product of market saturation. When your average user signs that 2 year contract and gets that free phone they're looking at the free phones. Typically your options are ether a dumb phone, a blackberry, or an android phone which looks sleek and shiny. Everyone picks the android phone, why wouldn't they? I don't have things stolen from me by google because I don't use google, I don't like feeling as though I'm being followed by a passive salesman all day. I'm not saying that they were wrong in using the grid OS. I'm just saying it's funny that Android looked like a direct clone of Blackberry with different icons until the iphone made its splash in the mobile world. As far as needing a lot of work, there's no OS as incomplete as android, sadly it shows no promise of moving drastically forward either. The only people making progress on this is samsung and perhaps HTC. Google's additions are comical at best, gingerbread was essentially a froyo pallet swap.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
lol...so true. I bet if a rabbit just knew to bite the bear in the gonads, it wouldn't get eaten.
[General Topics] japzone:
Woah guys... Let's calm down for a sec.

@z33dev33l Everybody is entitled to their own opinion just as much as you are.

@everybody-else Stop picking on the above just because you don't agree with his view. Insulting him won't change his view. If you don't think his replies make sense then move on. Let's try to be a bit mature and stick to constructive conversations.

Now that that's out of the way, here's my opinion.

I personally think iOS is a perfectly fine OS. It's easy to pick up and just use and for many people that's very important. I have no particular qualms with the iPhone either. However, I'm a guy who wants things to work certain ways on the devices he owns and is frustrated when certain features I think should be a given are not present. Android allows

ME

to add those features; a level of customization iOS does not provide.

One example of this is the genius Android app "Shush", it allows you to set a timer for vibrate and silent. Say you go to a 2-hour movie, you put your phone on vibrate, a timer pops-up and you enter 2-hours. No more forgetting you're phone on vibrate. Why this isn't built into every phone I'll never know.

I do dislike Apple's business practices though, which is why I'll never own one of their products. I know the whole reason Google provides all these Free services is because they expect information in return, but I know this is what they do and don't have to worry about them suddenly changing how they operate (ie: Changing the Appstore agreement so they get a piece off every transaction, even if it wasn't using Apple's in app Billing.)

Now Apple is suing everyone, killing innovation, and now they get upset when the sued begin counter suing? Sad. That's all I can say.

(edit: stupid auto-correct)

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[General Topics] gTen:
Well I agree there isn't much choice for OS in top tier..but then again same is the case on PCs..there is windows, mac and linux and that is pretty much it..there are others but windows dominates and the other 2 eat up the remains...

The grid ui is pretty much the wheel, you can reinvent the wheel all you want, that doesn't make using the wheel "copying" or "not innovating"..its just an expected standard..if a company uses a none wheel approach that is fine as long as the functionality is there..but again the wheel is the wheel...

As far stealing stuff..personally the people who care who steals from who are the lawyers..who cares..no average consumer goes out and says "hey I am not buying this because they stole this from this"..as long as the best product is in my hands at the end of the day, that is all I care about..and I assume that accounts for 99.999999999999% of the people.

As for Google stealing information, to not before using any Google services on android that take your information you have to agree to the terms of service..aka any information sent is not stolen...you AGREED to it..if you don't agree to it, you can not use Google services..heck you can split Google almost completely out of android and use yahoo or bing or any other search engine that uses ads..but at end of the day both yahoo, bing and others also steal the same information so regardless of whether you use iphone, dumbphone, wp7, android, blackberry, webos, santa claus..your information will be "stolen"...only suggestion I can offer is dumping all forms of communication and putting on a tin foil hat :/
[General Topics] Tachi91:
Some of yous need a time out... Go to the Corner!

Or a Puerto Rican Timeout.. Get on your Knees against the wall with rice on the floor (That ****s painful)
[General Topics] raziel123:
hater

so let me get this right, you think HTC and Google are crap, apple also crap...

are you a Nokia fan boy living in the dark ages?

with regard to android os and hardware, be gobedt with yourself. the iPhone hardware and software is severely lacking in...

1. customization

2. performance

3. features

your argument that android hardware and software are ripping apple off caries no weight considering the improvement HTC and Samsung have made in recent hardware and software releases.

take the galaxy s2 for example way ahead of the iPhone 4 dated hardware, software. heck even the galaxy s had 720p HD recording which the I phone has just managed to come out with. lol

regards
[General Topics] mattykinsx:
Great post.
[General Topics] raziel123:
galaxy s hater

z33dev33l did you know that that the galaxy s hard a superior graphics chip the sgx540 way back when it was released as opposed to the dated sgx535 chipset of the iPhone 4 ...

lol
[General Topics] powerlifter450:
Don't you know? the world has changed. Everyone is supposed to bow down to Apples superiority and let them have all the market share in whichever markets they choose to operate in.

On a more serious note, Apple is doing what apple has always done and not license their software. This is Mac OS versus Dos/Windows all over again. This is a long term losing strategy and they know it. The only way to try to protect market share going forward is to destroy the competitions chances to use android to build better products.
[General Topics] haunterx:
I find this a sad thing.... its not just about apple anymore.....soon everyone is going to start sueing each other....and as i see it there wont be anymore "inovative" products since every company will be focusing resources on legal issues...i have a question...how long ago was it since android and iphone made their debut?and how more "inovative" has any of them it gotten since then?
[General Topics] bonesy:
Hold on.Didn't Apple try to sue HTC For something then HTC Flipped it around and said " Actually we patented that" and turn the sueing around??Also Apple got the Galaxy tab 10.1 (The new one?) Banned in Europe by deliberately making the picture they had of it the wrong dimensions so it looked more like the iPad? Thus making the ban in Europe be lifted? In my opinion Jobs plays dirty tactics to try and steer people away from competitors!

Although on a recent night out in bristol, Everyone apart from the group i was with had iPhone in hand recording the gig, So just seeing that shows me that more people are using iphones.My mates have my old Android devices but probably would have gone for Apple had i not offered them really good deals lol

Considering both iOS and AndroidOS are both based off of linux they should just compete fairly and see who wins
[General Topics] madnish30:
Thread closed, too controversial a topic - and you guys just won't behave. So before we have a bigger flame fest - here is the lock.
[Android Software Development] comdei:
I am trying to develop a certain program that needs to access a website and pull information that will then be displayed within my app(with credits of course, its from a open source text domain).

Is there a simple way to do this?

Its all text based data.
[Android Software Development] Rootstonian:
Neet to do a HttpClient request to web site and "getContent". HINT...Google it :)
[Android Software Development] alostpacket:
^what he said. You can also use the org.apache classes.

But the most dead simple way to get a website in your app is to use a WebView. But that will just display the content as is, not sure if you want that, or to get the data to manipulate....
[Android Software Development] mrn123:
If you want to parse data from the httpresponse, then I think you can check out Jsoup...its very easy to parse a html page for extracting the data via Jsoup!

I guess webview doesn't support javascript...so make sure before using that in your app!
[Fascinate General] icemanwbs:
Whats the best music player? Also best music downloader app? Gtunes was awesome but no longer available in market.
[Fascinate General] adude247:
Check out TTPod on the market...
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
@op in the future use the q&a forum for your question threads. I wouldn't have said anything. But this is the second mis placed thread today.

good day.
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
playerpro is my choice for non miui music player, that or ubermusic. both in the market. miui has the best music app in my opinion though.

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Fascinate General] johnnyplaid:
Surprised you can't get GTunes straight from the developer.

Found this..http://g-tunes.mobi/
[Fascinate General] icemanwbs:
Ill try that thanks