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[Motorola Photon 4G] whatsitsnamenow:
One thing I can't over is how long it takes to charge batteries on Samsung phones. 3 hrs to 6 hrs depending on whether or not you are on your phone. When streaming videos or navigation the charging slows to a crawl. I was hoping that Samsung will correct this on their current models. If the international GS2 is any indication than the answer is no.

I'm think I'm going to have to pass unless someone provides info to the contrary.
[Motorola Photon 4G] SS2006:
amoled is great

But resolution kills it I hate the big baby sized icons

4.5 is too big

Also thinner isn't better. Most important thing fora phone is ergonomics . And those Samsung rectangles kill my hand. There's no grip. Thicker phones like the matrix are a joy to hold in one hand

I've tried them all trust me, look at my sig
[Motorola Photon 4G] Semseddin:
i feel like telling that my ideas and thoughts are my objective experiences. Nobody should have his comfort to feel offended. I respect and listen to people who knows what he/she is talking about. That being said,

I've been using motorola for a long time and owned more than 40 different models. If that makes me a motorola fan (not a fanboy) i won't deny it instead be happy. I always paid to motorola and been happy for most of the times eventhough moto lacked technologically better devices like other brands for a while. People were using N95 8gb,Omnias',touchscreen HTC wm's and our best bet was Q9H in the time :D Still, it was damn of a good phone even it lacked many things that others offered. I could have caused many people to buy motorola phones over time and been supporting them as an hobiest,too. In the meantime, i've also been messing with htc, samsung and others. Briefly, motorola internals are different and better in terms of quality and internal design wise. People can be happy with their S2 for samoled+ , htc for their sense ui, no matter what brighpoints they have in the device, the longivity and lifespan of them will not be as good and long as a motorola product. Ditto. This brand is very well known for built quality. I am talking about a company who brought six sigma quality standart into industry. If communication is as important as life, you don't have a chance to miss a call. There have always been well organized "throw a ****" campaigns against motorola everywhere not just in North and South America but in EMEA and SEAP markets. There were speculations that it would end up being like Siemens. It worked in that period cause motorola was in sleep with dated Razrs. Now that the innovation and engeneering company behind cellphone is once awake&strong seems to know better how to satisfy their customers with reliable products, latest specs, timely updates, good battery life,bootloader unlocking and such. :cool: That causes the customers stand in front of their phones, and growth in company and loyalty. Fairly simple yet efficient method for success. I hope motorola soon starts to become the unquestionable leader in the industry with its new models. They should keep doing what they did with atrix,defy,droid and evolve it.

Back on topic,

Galaxy S2 is an other samsung phone with eyecatching Samoled+ labeling and Photon 4G is an other tough moto that actually DOES what's being said on paper.

Thanks for reading.
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
But what about the lower screen resolution?

I might want to switch from my MoPho only because it seems like the SGSII has already been hacked 3 ways from sunday and has tons of development action...

But are people concerned about the 800x400 on the SGSII vs the 960x540 on the photon? That is the only thing holding me back.. This is almost last years phone worldwide but we are just getting it? Have we become that 3rd world?

Also what about the Tegra games like Samurai Vengeance and Sprinkle? Will those run at all on non-tegra phones?
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
FAIL. This was one of the reasons I took MoPho over E3D
[Motorola Photon 4G] CCallahan:
Maybe....maybe not. Check it: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/24/play-tegra-zone-games-on-non-tegra-devices-with-chainfire3d/
[Motorola Photon 4G] Becoming:
Oh, and anyone that thinks that Google buying Motorola is going to magically pump fairies and unicorns into your phone at light speed, you're living in fantasy land.

The purchase isn't even finalized yet, and by the time it is there will still be a lot of corporate level decisions to be made on how things will be run, not to mention that Google will be weary of annoying other important Android manufacturers by preferential treatment.

In other words, your updates and support will very likely be little to no different than it stands right now. And just ask original Nexus owners about how fast they got upgraded to gingerbread after the Nexus S release and tell me that the Photon will somehow fare better?

Yeah, not betting money on it.

I bought my wife a Photon and it's terrific, but I have no illusions that it's suddenly at the top of Google's priority list.
[Motorola Photon 4G] limeaid:
Agree with this 100%. I seriously doubt the Photon will reap benefits from the acquisition in any way. It won't be until the next generation of phones where we might see some effects of the Google acquisition
[Motorola Photon 4G] keen77:
There's no possible way it will have the same battery life. Motorola hit a homerun with Photon's class-leading battery life. SuperAMOLED, as gorgeous as it is, drains the battery like none other
[Motorola Photon 4G] limeaid:
The gs2 has a larger battery so it might be possible. Let's see what the reviews say
[Motorola Photon 4G] libracolo:
I switched today, got the Photon (from the Epic). I ended up paying nothing (credit of 18 dollars) when all was said and done. Best Buy has the Photon for $99, and bought my Epic back for $117. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. Sprint still selling them for $199. Now I just need to get the Dock....Glad I got this phone, I for one am disappointed in Sammie. Support from them is not the greatest and then the phone is cut down from the European version. I'll pass on the GS2. Only 11 months to go until next upgrade...haha
[Motorola Photon 4G] Becoming:
How is it cut down when it has the same hardware and bigger screen?

No offense, but did you even read the specs on the sprint page before coming to that conclusion?
[Motorola Photon 4G] HondaCop:
Him as well as many others, are suffering from defense mechanism (denial). It's just hard for them to conceive that there is a better phone besides what they currently have. It's normal and happens every time a new phone is announced. They have to justify and convince themselves there choice of staying with their current phone is the best.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
shows what you know, the photon hands down beats the sgs4

:rolleyes::D:p
[Motorola Photon 4G] HondaCop:
LOL Yup, it will.. no doubt :rolleyes:
[Motorola Photon 4G] beartrap:
There will always be a certain level of "my baby is the cutest" or "how dare you call my baby ugly", but I do think most people on this forum knew the SGS2 would be out within a couple months of the Photon and the phone specs were well known. I am one of those and made my decision a month ago. I've been very pleased with my MoPho experience while there are some that have not and will be considering this. I hold no grudge to those not happy because I'd be looking too if i were one of them.
[Motorola Photon 4G] HondaCop:
Very good post... Like I've said before, I have a MoPho and I LOVE IT! BUT, I am really attracted to the SGS2's performance, SAMOLED+ screen and 4.52" screen size among many other things. I'm not saying that the Photon is a chump, but to see people just speak nonsense in trying to trash the SGS2 is beyond ridiculous... But I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
[Motorola Photon 4G] libracolo:
First of all, it doesn't have the same hardware and bigger screen. The processor was cut from a 1.5 to a 1.2, and the screen was reduced in size as well.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
This is a phone, not a camera. For what it is, it takes great pictures. Like the other poster said, buy a camera. Most peoples deciding factors in this thread are absolutely hilarious. This is a phone, a messaging, and multi use device it does just about everything you would ever need it to do with just 1 piece of equipment. If you want prefect pictures you go buy a camera if you want an absolute prefect screen go but an HDTV, if you want superb sound for music, go buy a dance club.

But seriously, this is a smart phone, and to me it is the smartest. And I don't care what anyone says, my photon will kick the crap out of that sgs2. I use Samsung chips in my PC for my memory, but that's about all their good for, oh and HDTV's. You can throw all the links and paper specs you want to throw at me, but until I see real world benchmarks, the Photon is king.

-DJ
[Motorola Photon 4G] HondaCop:
Fixed your post... =)
[Motorola Photon 4G] iSaint:
Guys the GS2 will be better ... accept it.

But it will have it's flaws also ... i think we all know Sammy :rolleyes:

im staying with my MoPho even though ill have the opportunity to change because i hated the Epic's build quality and the way the phone was just gave up on by Sammy and Sprint ... they really let me down on the updates when the phone first came out and even after all the modding Thank you ACS ;) i still had problems .... with the photon i haven't had a single problem with day to day use ... so im happy... why change.... :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] jorjitoc:
I agree totally about Samsung support and reliability. We had five Blackjacks and all five failed within 12-15 months. I know phones have come a long way since the Blackjack but build quality is build quality. They're also slow to roll out updates. Motorola makes solid stuff and they have good support. I had Moto Q's that lasted years for me and then as hand-me-downs for friends and relatives. On top of all that, I have to think that Motorola is going to get even better update support now that they are being acquired by Google. /[my two cents]
[Motorola Photon 4G] Becoming:
I hate to reply to idiocy, but why stop now eh?

The current, as in you have been able to walk into a store overseas and actually buy one, GS2 is the exact same 1.2 ghz Exynos processor and same everything else, but with a 4.29 inch screen. The sprint version is the same hardware, but with a wimax radio and a 4.5 inch screen.

You remind me of the math deficient people who claim that the US release is over 6 months behind when the phone was released in May internationally.

Again, I'm startled that people can register here, find their way back to post, but can't do a five second search on the built in Google search on their phones before pulling fantasy arguments from their rear ends.

Good thing this is not serious business, otherwise it'd be inexcusable considering you have the internet in your pocket and have zero reason to be so uninformed.

Edit - Really not trying to be a douche here. I'm just saying that if you insist on using numbers and specs as a part of your post or argument/opinion, the least you can do is a quick and painless Google search to verify actual facts.

It saves you from looking silly and means that your post can actually be taken seriously. In more technical forums like these, that's sort of important to discussion.
[Motorola Photon 4G] A2CKilla:
1.2Ghz dual core, on the SSG2 aka, Epic touch 4g, 1080p video recording, 8mp cam, pretty much the same specs as the evo 3d cept the 8mp single cam and screen size/type
[Motorola Photon 4G] libracolo:
First of all, last time I checked I was allowed to have an opinion, gee sorry it doesn't match yours, oh wait, no I'm not.

As for doing a Google search about the phone, I most certainly did do my share of searches and research on the phone. There was talk of that phone coming out with the 1.5 processor the day before Samsung announced it (the original announcement date).

You like the phone so much, great, good for you. The last time I looked at the post, it was a question that I gave my opinion on. And I believe this is the Photon thread, but I could be wrong. After all, I must be too stupid to be able to know what site I'm on, or what forum I've landed in, eh? BTW, if your response was meant to insult me in any way, sorry, what you think of my post (or opinion for that matter) is of little to no consequence to me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] limeaid:
Lol. I think you just proved his point
[Motorola Photon 4G] limeaid:
Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. Go read my earlier post
[Motorola Photon 4G] IP IHI II IL:
I feel the same way about the Photon as I did about the EVO 4G when I got it: "This phone's gonna last a LONG time!" I was right about the 4G...

Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!

http://android-gz.com
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
Funny guy.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
Listen dude, all you do is bash my posts every time I say something. I don't understand why your in these forums, if you don't like the photon then ditch it and go. This thread has turned into crap like I knew it would. There have been no tests whatsoever and your bragging about something that's all on paper, you have no base, nothing. Go to the Samsung forums because to be honest I don't think people here want to listen to you. I don't care about that phone, sure its a nice phone, and sure maybe it will compete nicely with the photon, but i'm staying here, I knew the photon would be powerful before it hit shelves and that's why I traded in my 3d for it, but I didn't bash on the 3d guys before I left. I'll be pm'ing a mod as well. This has gotten out of hand. Sorry, but it has been said many times throughout this thread, Samsung although a good company, has crap for support, and i'm not taking my chances.

Good luck.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Becoming:
You're welcome to your opinion, my point was that when you mix in incorrect information to support said opinion it becomes a useless wall of noise.

As far as the Photon goes, I've already said it's a fantastic phone. I bought one for my wife and there's really nothing negative I can think of about it at all.

The difference is that I can tell you exactly why it's terrific without having to pull make believe "facts" about other phones out of thin air as some people are apparently fond of doing.

If someone is actually looking to make an informed purchase decision, obviously they are not well served by lies and fairytales yes?

I mean the original post asked specifically for opinion between two products. If the people keep posting nonsense about one of the two, who exactly does that help?

As to the actual question, I plan on checking out the GS2, but if it doesn't click with me I'd feel no regrets to return it for a Photon. My wife is completely happy with hers and I even offered to get her a GS2 and she declined. She's happy with what she has, and I'm not surprised as it's great and we've had zero issues with it.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
It wasn't aimed directly at you and I did not send a personal attack towards you. But I guess when there's nothing else to say, it's "go for the low blows" time.

Lock this thread please.

Personally I think any threads comparing phone vs. phone should be prohibited in specific phone forums, they should be put in general Android/windows/etc. They never end up civil.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
ah actually with the sgs2 there has been a lot of tests >.> in fact at the begining of this thread i posted a gpu benchmark scores where the tegra 2 was on par with teh sgs lineup, and the sgs2 crushed all of them. its a gpu benchmark, not some quadrant tmpfs speedboost!!! im sure you could speed it up by modifying the cache, but there were all done on stock systems

[/end aiming at you]

i really am disappointed with everyone here, if you wanna start a flame war over which phone is better im sure apple could use a few new groupies. we are all on android here, we all share the love of it (if not get back over to the winmo forums :P ) as such we shouldnt be fighting over who can have a bigger epeen for a phone.

personally id love for this thread to stay open so that an informed intelligent discussion can happen.. but tahts not gunna happen
[Motorola Photon 4G] coldblooded79:
I feel the same way about my Photon that I did about my Evo...it just works. The Photon is just way faster. Bought my fiance and I Evos when we came to Sprint. Then I switched to the Epic, and she followed later and hated it. We both traded back for Evos. Go to the SGS2 and I'm sure after a little bit you will come crawling back the Photon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] limeaid:
I think this thread is pretty relevant. I imagine many photon owners are grappling with the decision on whether or not to switch to the gs2.

I, for one, appreciate the discussion and have found many ppl's opinions to be very helpful.

What I do get annoyed at is when ppl get emotional and think someone is insulting their "baby" or when ppl impose their own values on others and tell them what they should value about their device. If ppl would stop with this crap, I think we'd be fine
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
No tests that he showed for his bragging is what I meant. But like I said, I don't care, I am in the Photon forums because that is the phone I want and have. I'm not sure why people are here just bashing each other. I didn't bash anyone, I just said there were no tests. If there were, my apologies, and again, I could care less. I am really holding my tongue here as I have already had an unwanted vacation. This kind of thread really pisses me off, especially when I am called out for supporting a phone that I have, and in the forums I should be supporting that phone in.

Instead of this phone getting recognized for its developer support, getting the bootloader unlocked w/4g, and amazing ROMs we got people in here crapping on each other. Bravo

I'm done here, you guys want to keep talking your crap, go right ahead. I'll be continuing to help developers and help this phone along.

-DJ
[Motorola Photon 4G] Addictedtothegreenguy:
So skipping all the bs before this, does anyone think cyanogen will have a big hand in sprints sgs2 being as though he was just hired by samsung
[Motorola Photon 4G] hayabusa1300cc:
All you school girls talking that bubble gum smack..

Lol jkk pleeze don't flame me!

I know I love my photon. But I am honest with myself.

Knowing how badass the new epic is. I would not be content with my purchase. So I am indeed getting the new epic.

Life is too short to settle. Get what you want. Aim for the best. I am one to always get the top device every year.

Even if I can't pay my bills or eat. Im that serious about it.

Everyone has their opinion. I'm fine with that. But facts are facts.

Just depends if you are willing to accept it, rather than lie and convince yourself something fictional.

Peace and love everyone! We all share this same passion! That's why are here. Its human instinct to fight anyone with different beliefs, views on things that are not the same as ours. Let them have theirs and we have ours. We are all brothers (and sisters) here.

.: sent from Planet Photon:.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
i hope you dont mistake my post for what it wasnt, i added the [/end aiming at you] so that you would not think teh second part was directed at you individually, just the first part about benchmarks.

as for no tests.. what test are you talking about?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
That's gangsta! I think i'm the same way. Does robbing my kids piggy bank count? Lol
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
Naw man, I don't care, was just stating that about benchmarks, you said you had showed some earlier, I was just saying that he never showed any that I could remember seeing. I have just recently looked some up for myself and yes it does look good, but I don't think I will be switching. If I do it will be long after they gain root/unlock and all depends on how much dev support they have. I really jsut don't know about Samsung support, pretty scarce. If the SGS2 performs better, and it looks like it will, then that is great. I will decide when the time comes.

Your good man, I just didn't like the personal attacks of the previous people.

On a side note, with the bigger screen and different type, I bet its battery life is like that of the original Evo. Bets?? lol

Also, if one ever gets a chance to visit a Sheridan's, try the Carmel Pretzel crunch Concrete, it is absolutely amazing!

-DJ
[Motorola Photon 4G] rrmzr1:
Ive also been thinking this over for awhile. The way I see it. The photon is a great phone. The galaxy 2 is a step up. But it just came too late for me. After tweaking my photon the way I want it Im having trouble thinking about trading that away. Super amoled is nice. The processor is fast. But not enough of a step up compared to the Tegra And I can't go back to 400x800. The only thing I fear is that development for this phone will be overlooked. Im dying waiting for an asop lol
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
I love how nobody lists the lower 800x480 screen res on hte SGS2 vs the 960x540 on the photon and newer phones...

MoPho:

+ Better res (960x540)

+ Native Tegra game support

+ Better cpu benchmarks (on paper)

+ Great battery life for its power

+ Webtop

- Pentile screen

- Moto is a nazi with bootloaders

SGS2

+ Super Amoled

+ 1.2 native speed

+ Has a huge headstart in the development area

+ slightly bigger screen (tho at lower res)

- Only 800x480 screen res

- Doesn't natively play tegra games

It's a toss up for sure..
[Motorola Photon 4G] pukemon:
that 4.5" amoled screen on the sgs2 is going to eat some battery for breakfast. i don't think it'll make it for lunch and dinner. unless you leave it in standby the whole time. but then what's the point?
[Motorola Photon 4G] acjohnson55:
I like the Photon okay, but it's so no-frills. My brother is always bragging about Sense on his Evo 3D. I'm probably going to exchange my Photon for an Evo 3D to buy some more exchange time to decide whether to go for the Touch. I think I'm going to have to see it in person to decide how the 4.52" WVGA AMOLED stacks up against the 4.3" qHD Pentile. If I can fit the same number of lines of text on the screen, the res difference is a wash to me.

As far as quality and support, track records aside (and I own a Moment, so I know Samsung's track record too well), the silent call problem is not at all encouraging for the Photon. I mean, how in the world did that get past QA? Also, the GS2 has been out in the wild for like 4 months now, so I'm sure that the extra time these American models have been in the oven is going to mean that many of the quality issues are going to be resolved .

OLED is supposed to be better for battery than LCD, because there is no backlight; each pixel emits its own light. Although, if you've got your whole screen lit up, I guess you're hosed.

I don't think that's true...AFAIK the i7500 Galaxy predates all Motorola phones
[Motorola Photon 4G] pukemon:
Really? All this time I thought my nexus one was plasma. Better check the tape again son. Slcd is more power effcient. Unless you plan on staring at black backgrounds all day and no text.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Motorola Photon 4G] nebrando:
Who cares? I have a Transformer and iPad2, both with stand cases for watching videos.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Djspinister:
I'm guessing he cares since he asked about it.

To answer his question, I don't think it does. I think it follows the other galaxy line ups as per phone design. Just huge'r. Lol

Yup, like I said before, juss like the OgEvo at release, prolly worse! Lol

-DJ
[Motorola Photon 4G] bricky23:
You know there are threads about this in the 3d section but they get locked because of all the fighting. I wanted to tell the ones who didn't fight to come here because I was proud of how we could just have an intelligent conversion here. Not so proud anymore. But that's ok if it gets locked, there was a good discussion before the kids got to fighting. Personally I just love talking about phones, any phones. Really need to get a job with sprint. And I do think this forum is a good place to discuss this, if it could be kept civil. Peace

Sent from my unlocked rooted Mopho!