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[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
And by the time the Prime comes out there will be something better coming out a few months down the line. We don't even know who is getting the Prime anyway so why wait when you can play now!
[General Topics] p-slim:
Not at all, the prime will not be overshadowed in one month like the SGS2. SGS2 isn't better then any phone. I can wait one month for ics, 720p video, 1.5 dual core, faster updates, the list goes on. With SGS2 you're buying a 6 month old phone, it won't be on top for long, actually it isn't even better the 3D or photon really, hell the SGS2 isn't even qhd, its still wvga smh. Get ready to sell it the second the prime drops, which you know you will want to, it won't even be a comparison. And what ever phone comes out after the prime still won't get updates as fast as the prime until a new nexus comes out
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
Please show me any type of proof the Prime might be coming to Sprint in the next month or two. I am surley not going to Verizon if they are the ones to get the Prime so at that point, then what?

Besides, I can use my wife's upgrade if something that I must have comes out in the next few months so I am not that worried.
[General Topics] p-slim:
Hey man nobody knows where it's going but we know it's coming in October, that 1-2 month wait isn't long and could be worth it. Not everyone is in your position with 2 upgrades just chillin there. If that was the case buy every new high end phone. My posts were for people who actually upgrade every 2 years, I think they should wait. Me personally I get every new phone just because but I know most aren't in that situation. And if I can't run cm on it, it can't be my daily phone. I'm hoping I don't need cm after ics
[General Topics] daneurysm:
Replace "sgs2" with "evo3d" and "nexus prime" with "sgs2".... We've done this before, 5 months ago.
[General Topics] p-slim:
This goes to my previous post, I didn't think this thread was for people with unlimited funds that can purchase any phone, then of course I would say get SGS2, it will be the hottest phone for about 40 days lol. Then get the prime, followed by whatever comes next even if it's only two weeks out. You guys are killing me
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
All proof right now shows the Prime going to Verizon and probably the reason why they passed up the SGS2. To wait for a device that might never come to Sprint is kind of pointless whether you have the funds or not. It is not like the SGS2 is going to be irelevant anytime soon even if better things come out.
[General Topics] p-slim:
The proof shows a "Droid prime" is going to vzw with model number sch i515 and there is proof that a "nexus prime" is coming with model numbers 925 and 920, and Schmidt said October/November for ics, that is all anyone knows so far
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
Not trying to argue with you but we don't even know what ICS is even bringing to the table. If it is like going from Froyo to Gingerbread, it won't be that exciting anyway. Will I want it, sure. Will it be life changing. Probably not if it is like last update.

Sure ICS is said to be more dual core friendly. So it will make an extrmemly fast device even faster, okay then what? What I would like to see is some game changing updates on ICS and not just a speed boost. I think we have the speed covered pretty good where we are now, show me something new to get exctited about!
[General Topics] p-slim:
Not arguing either, i'm excited about the fact we no longer need physical buttons, that screen real estate will be lovely, bigger screen but same size phone as well as ics will bring true hd. The qhd screens aren't even getting their potential because gingerbread doesn't really support that screen resolution. These are the major updates I'm waiting for
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
What do you mean by not needing physical buttons? How is that changing? More screen real estate is always a plus in book. It is one of the thigs I am looking forward to in the SGS2, although if they made it qhd it would have made much more sense considering the screen size.
[General Topics] p-slim:
Yeah no more back, menu, search, or home button, all of that will be on screen like honeycomb
[General Topics] boe:
It would make sense to wait if you had a good phone. I have the EVO 3D and I didn't get a chance to replace it before my 30 days was up. So would you wait for the Nexus if you had a phone that dropped calls or that your clients got frustrated with since you sound garbled?
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
Sounds cool, haven't heard about that......

So in my situation. If I stayed with the 3D I wouldn't be able to get out of contract without ETF after this month so when an ICS phone comes out I would need to sell my EVO 3D then use my wifes upgrade at the time.

Since I can get out of my contract this month without an ETF and get the SGS2 on a new line the end result would be the same except I will be able to buy an SGS2 now and sell my EVO 3D which I am not happy with.

So whether I wait or not I will still have 1 upgrade available to me when an ICS device comes out but the difference is whether I use an EVO 3D or SGS2 while I wait. I would rather use an SGS while I wait....

Hope that makes more sense now why I would not be gaining anything by waiting.
[General Topics] daneurysm:
100% this.

... And I'll probably get the prime too.
[General Topics] Success100:
I know that. On the s2 thats totally doable (they have a youtube video of the et4g on a website playing 5 embedded HD videos with zero lag and reflow) but on a single core no..

Im talking about general smoothness of the UI. The 3D is NO slouch when it comes to launching apps and handling tasks. The galaxy line of phones are iPhone smooth. HTC phones for some reason arent. With aosp it can come close, but no cigar

agreed. Like i said, I think the 3d has amazing potential. It just falls short in the areas most of us need it to work in. Like being a phone.

+1 waiting on phones to launch is a dead game. Theres always a better phone on the horizon. there is NO real proof of when or where the Prime is going
[General Topics] swaze:
About as much proof as the SGS2 coming to sprint. Most said the same thing when it was in the "rumor" stage. If there is a rumor then its more than likely true the same as the SGS2 is coming to sprint. Funny how people hype a phone, but soon as there is something better rumored to come to sprint, its a "rumor" and we dont know, and its no need to wait.....when people just waited damn near 6 months for this Sgs2 LOL. Ummmm ok.
[General Topics] lyon21:
Yea!!! Even more ****ty screen. Keep stretching the screen and leave the same amount of pixels! Genius idea! That thing is going to look like complete ****. 4.5" with lower resolution than the 3d? That's a great idea!
[General Topics] GadgetMonger:
I can't begin to figure out your motivation for posting this except maybe you're angry at your 3D for some reason. I've worked with the OG Galaxy as well as with the Epic and Facinate. They're all sub par phones in every aspect even compared to the OG EVO. Any one of the three would lock up solid if I so much as looked at them funny. I fully intend on getting the GSII because of all that's been made of it and I want to see for myself if Samsung finally got it right. If I had to choose between the 3D and the GSII, there's no way I'd bet the 3d on it though.
[General Topics] Success100:
eh, im just saying based on my experience. Im not angry about it, im just sorely disappointed in the 3d. Galaxy phones have worked MUCH better for me.

Im excited about the s2. Hopefully it doesnt let me down as well, but most people seem to LOVE IT.

and what do you mean you cant figure out why i posted it, thats what the thread is for, who is switching and why!
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
Seriously? Even though the screen is large for a cell phone at 4.5", that is still a pretty small screen there. We used to use those resolutions on computer monitors so why would it look bad on a little tiny screen.

Some people just have no clue......
[General Topics] Success100:
ill take a 480x800 super amoled plus at 4.5" over the 3d's qHD.

Have you ever seen a super amoled plus display?? The quality of it makes up for the resolution. It doesnt look bad by any means (the infuse 4g has it already) but I will miss the resolution. I think its all a matter of personal preference on that one. Some people prefer the higher res, some of us prefer the superior viewing angles and color/black reproduction

IMO the lcd on the 3d is subpar. Alot of reviews even said the same thing. Call me crazy but I still think the OG Evo has a better screen, even though its lower res
[General Topics] daneurysm:
Agreed 100%... And another thing, I certainly won't miss Apps that still don't dynamically resize for higher resolutions.... I'm sure by my next upgrade in 3-9 months this should be fixed, but, I've got a bunch of games and other Apps that just shrink, and that blows... Hell, one game just refuses to run. Dpi tweaks yield results that range from "meh" to "no difference"
[General Topics] jmall1:
I really can't follow you at all here. The EVO 3d screen is way ahead of the last generation galaxy series. Pentile? Seriously I haven't a clue as to what you're talking about. My Epic 4g stutters terribly when switching between applications. I owned an OG Evo as well and it never had those issues. The 3d is faster than both of those phones combined. Not to mention is has twice the amount of ram. Most of my frequently used apps pop up instantly. This is the fastest and smoothest phone sense, or no sense.... I've played with the so called 3d killer "The Photon." It was a stutter fest! Not even close. Like I said the new Epic Touch is the true Evo 3d competition and maybe the Bionic.
[General Topics] Success100:
yeah, i switched from the OG Evo to a galaxy s phone. I MUCH prefer the amoled display even with the pentile arrangement. Color reproduction, viewing angles, and black levels are much better. I like the 3d's resolution, but if I sit it on my desk next to my keyboard and i need to read something, it aint happening. It has TERRIBLE viewing angles, and to ME seems VERY washed out in comparison. Like I said, its whatever floats your boat, I know im not crazy because there a TONS of people who much prefer Super Amoled over LCD. This isnt even counting the Super Amoled Plus display, which fixes the pentile arrangement of pixels.

Indeed the 3D is a powerful phone, but even with that, my Galaxy S 4G gave me a MUCH more enjoyable experience.

I can only imagine how good the s2 is going to be
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
SGS2 doesn't have a pentile screen so that is irrelevant here.
[General Topics] aznmode:
Wait a minute. I thought wirefly policy is you cannot swap any phone you bought from them to any line prior to 181 days. So if you use your airrave upgrade then you technically cannot use the phone for any of your other lines. But if you're saying youve done this through them before then it is possible to switch their phones to any lines in your account?
[General Topics] scyy:
Lol at people not seeming to realize sense is the primary reason this phones ui can get laggy. Just try some of the aosp roms that are coming out that have no sound for like an hour. everything is completely fluid with no ui lag.
[General Topics] daneurysm:
If that can help the damn thing catch and hold a signal most of us would probably just stay put. Sadly not even an OEM/carrier radio update seems to fix that...barely if at all.
[General Topics] boe:
Amen - I'd have no significant reason to upgrade to the Epic Touch/SGII if the 3D was a good phone. The PDA side is just fine with me but the phone part is useless. And while I'm new to Android, I don't think we'll see a mod of this phone that will make it be a better phone although it would be great if I am wrong about it. HTC doesn't think the phone is crap on the 3D and admitting there is a problem is the first step in solving a problem.

While the SGSII may have a camera that is less likely to lock up and take better pictures, have a louder speaker, a brighter screen with better contrast and viewing angle, longer battery life, slimmer design, bigger screen - none of that is a significant factor in me having any interest in upgrading from the 3D. Sure it be cool if the GSII had a slightly higher resolution like the 3D but it all comes down to which phone has better voice quality and can actually hold onto a cell signal and not drop a call.
[General Topics] jmall1:
I'm aware of that. I'm talking about the Galaxy S.
[General Topics] Success100:
totally agreed
[General Topics] GadgetMonger:
I totally get that this is a place for opinions and of course you're entitled to yours. Where you lost me is here...

" All I know is that my OG galaxy s is way faster than this custom kernel custom rom 3d. I can't understand how it couldn't be better."

Let me put it to you this way... Let's say you have the opportunity to drive and choose between a mint showroom condition 1970 VW bug and a 2011 Dodge Charger, suped up (modded) version. You could very well come back having chosen the bug for various reasons of your own. Maybe it's the economics, you're into the classics, it's your favorite color, or maybe the seat fits your little tush O so perfectly. It's all good. People may disagree with your choice, but hey... Your opinion is your own. But..... If you come back with those same points plus you throw in there that the bug just out performed the Charger... Faster, handling, acceleration... Now you've made a statement that, all things being equal, can't be accurate. I say all things being equal because of course there can be circumstances where the statement could be accurate... The Charger had 4 flats, someone drained all the oil out of it prior to your driving it. But if you make a statement like that without disclosing a little detail like the steering wheel was removed from the Charger, that would be misleading and dishonest. People would then undoubtedly question your honesty and or motivation in making such a statement regardless of the setting in which it was made.
[General Topics] mlin:
Agreed. The SGS1 series nor the NS4G are "faster" than the E3D, nor should they be; they have slower processors and less RAM, period. Fluidity, on the other hand is a different story and is not synonymous with speed. I agree that my NS4G is smoother than my E3D.
[General Topics] tomp517:
I did this to get my 3d. I use my mothers upgrade from wirefly then transferred it to my (different account) and everything went fine. That was 2 weeks after it came out.
[General Topics] kawaski47:
I had a 3d but returned it. I was going to go with the epic touch but i think ill wait for more info on the prime before I decide
[General Topics] JTNiggle:
I haven't done the Airave upgrade before, but I have used an upgrade from one line with them, and then activated it on a different line. Never had any trouble, did it with the Evo a while back, and the 3D pre ordered before launch.
[General Topics] Success100:
maybe I confused you two. My point is of course the EVO has superior hardware. It is a beast when handling tasks and launching apps. My Galaxy S was also a beast with a custom kernel and rom. IMO, it gave me a more enjoyable experiece, which is why I cant wait for the s2. Fluidity is huge for most people. Which is why I say the OG Galaxy provided a better experience. It was just as fast with launching apps and was fluid in EVERY single aspect of the UI. The 3d is not, and i lacks the fluidity of the Galaxy series. I realize its mostly due to Sense. Theres no doubt in that.

Of course the 3d is gonna kick its ass when it comes to benchmarks and multitasking.

These are al huge things to me. I miss having a super smooth android device, with a great camera and amoled display. And that worked awesome as a phone.

Im not bashing the 3d, but there are some things I cant live with. My phone took 32 minutes to come back on after it died last night. Girl kept calling, phone kept sending her to VM because the ****in thing wouldnt turn back on. Totally unacceptable. Of course resulted in a argument. In the same place my OG EVO gets a signal just fine, the 3d cant complete a call, and gives me SMS errors. People call me 6-7 times in a row, and I never have a clue they are calling until I get a text saying "i just called you x times in a row why arent you answering" Even after a network refresh. Call quality is piss poor. Camera is good when the subject is still, but dont let them move!! Display is so so to me, after being spoiled by an amoled.

Now there are things I love about it also, but Im ready to give something else a shot, and hopefully the S2 wont let me down like this thing did.

Didnt want it to come off as 3D bashing cause thats not the point. I was just expecting so much coming from a Galaxy device. Its kinda hard not to want to pitch this thing for a better Galaxy device
[General Topics] GadgetMonger:
I'm not confused. Simply put in reference to my analogy.... Your Charger has 4 flats. What you're doing is in fact bashing the 3D if you're implying that your experience is typical. It's not.
[General Topics] Width205:
thanks for this thread guys
[General Topics] Success100:
okee dokie my friend
[General Topics] eman3316@optonline.net:
The only opinion he is able to give is based on his own experience which is in fact what he is doing. You can't say he is wrong because you don't have the same issues.

Bottom line is both phones are top of the line and will come with it's full share of issues or things you don't like. The question will be which ones you would rather live with.

I thing I am hoping for is better battery life on the SGS2. Doesn't the iPhone 4 battery last all day without an any problems and people can actual use the phone all day or am I just thinking that is what I heard.....If that is the case, why can't we get that on Android?
[General Topics] daneurysm:
No, it's more like his Charger has 4 square tires.

I also know that the NS4G (and likely Epic) have a far smoother UI experience. Hell, the N1 was way smoother than my E4G even though they were practically identical...even with CM7.

Nobody every claimed the E3D wasn't clearly the faster device. 1.2GHZ dual core vs 1ghz single core. C'mon. Maybe it's the GPU, maybe it's something else.

While I'd like to be civil and chalk it up to opinion I'm pretty sure there is some fact floating around there and I'm pretty sure FPS (and their standard deviation) has everything to do with it. I don't know if it's a buffering thing (too small? too big?) or what, but, the difference is there and it is freaking noticeable. All the overclocking and governor tweaking in the world hasn't made a dent in it...the CPU has nothing to do with it....the E3D still comes out herky-jerky no matter what I've done.
[General Topics] Success100:
precisely. herky jerky explains it no matter how u cut the cake. Its a beast when handling tasks, but is not smooth at all
[General Topics] clamknuckle:
This might have been answered already, but the phones you get for $200 actually cost closer to $5-550. You get a discount for signing a 2 year contract.

The ETF is being raised to help recover the costs of the phone if you do leave early, also the iPhone is probably coming in October.
[General Topics] jyan_osu:
Maybe but not in my circle. Whenever I am at a convention such as E3 or CES, all my friends with iPhones are running for plugs halfway through the day. I'm good for most of the day with the same amount of texting and communicating with my colleagues.

Initially they get good battery life then it drops pretty quickly it seems in my circle of friends.

Also, we have the option to change out the battery.
[General Topics] mlin:
No confusion here. Your subjective opinion of "a better experience" is entirely different from the objective statement that the sgs1 is faster than the e3d.

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[General Topics] bobdude5:
I just hope the Gs2 is not the same buggy pos that the epic 4g was. I really like my EVO 3d though :/ its the fastest and smoothest phone I've ever had. Everything just works with this phone. I've never had an android phone that just worked besides the nexus one.

Decisions :/ I hope it doesn't feel cheap either like the epic did
[General Topics] daneurysm:
I would bank on it.

...a handful of reviews say as much.

I had an NS4G for a little while, I got used to it. There were certainly a handful of "oh ****, I lost my phone" moments until I checked my pocket. Then when I went back to the E3D it really felt like a boat anchor.

At first it feels like we are "missing quality" or that it will "break easier", but, regardless of the weight of your phone you aren't going to start digging holes and playing frisbee with it just cuz it feels meatier.
[General Topics] GadgetMonger:
He's not stating opinions. He's stating that his experiences are do to something being inherently wrong with the 3D. I can and do dispute this.

Actually, that's exactly what he claimed. Just sayin.

Again, you make this statement as if it were true of the 3d in general. I own the device. I know others who own the device. No herky jerky here. I set 3D next to my buddies Infuse and I'm here to say it was every bit as "fluid". I did have to give his display the edge. Freakin beautiful... But that's beside the point.

The word fluidity keeps coming up. The variables involved in this make it a very weak example of a comparison. You can take a lower end device and strip it down, over clock it and come out with a very "fluid" device. If that works for you and suits your needs, great. But if you're going to make the argument that the transform, for example, is superior to the Infuse in any way shape or form based on that... well that would be an incredibly weak and easily disputed argument to make.

Just seems like a lot of this is more sour grapes than honest opinion. The main complaint seems to be more service related then anything else. Confusion between poor coverage and a problem with the 3D itself. I've heard about the side by side comparisons of signal strength, then I make the same side by side comparisons and see no difference in signal strength or call quality at all. Never had a dropped call. Not one. How then can this be a problem with the 3D in general? If you spend any time in development you're familiar with the notion that if you're experiencing issues that the majority are not with any given rom that's an isolated issue and can't be blamed on the rom or dev. I contend the same applies here. Again... Just sayin. :D
[General Topics] eazye1984:
well last week when i was at futureshop i had the option of buying the sg2 or the evo 3d. the guy beside me at the store had a sg2 and was showing me it to encourage me to buy it. i chose the evo3d becuase i thought having 3d without glasses would be cooler. and in the end after its all said and done im glad i got this 3d phone. sure the galaxy is faster,has a better screen,better camera. but heres my opinion of why i bought the evo 3d

the amoleds colors looked tacky overely saturated

the 8mp camera is better but not by much

speed well they are both dual core and i figured they would both be fast enough for my needs, and it is.

sg2 vs evo 3d

get the sg2 if 1080p video recording is a must

get the evo 3d i 3d is a must in upgrading old phone tech