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[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
1) The GSM phones are the R800I and the R800A, I think the R800I is the most common.

2) Yes even some dual core tega II games work great on the play

3) each CPU is diffrent. But my phone handles 1.9ghz no probs.

4) Not many custom roms yet. CM7 is nearly fully working. And stock rom is excellent.

5) Doomlords kernel is awesome ;) blagus is working on a custom kernel too

6) Benchmarks are usually crap, Qualcomms own 3D benchmarch is good though, (NeoCore.) The play usually gets over 30FPS with sound. Thats up there with any device.

7) Bravia engine has just been ported to the play. It's in the dev section.

8) The play and the ARC are almost identical hardware wise. And easly a match for the dual core devices.

9) Camera is good for being only 5mp, My DHD had an 8mp camera and the play's is in a diffrent league, the LED flash works great too in nightime shots.

10) Alot of people are having trouble with the back button. (Including me.) In some situations it seems to fire twice. The play is well bult though and the gamepad is built really well.

11) Awesome. Thats all i can say :D

12) Yes. Factory unlocked devices can get the bootloader unlocked for free from sony. If you have a sim locked device, You can get the bootloader unlocked for 10-15gbp

13) The play will be a decent device for atleast another 12-24 months ;)
[Xperia Play General] system02:
The Play is quite nice but the biggest contra: The Display. Indoors it's ok, not very bright. But outdoors in the sun it is realy bad!

Compared to the arc there are worlds(!) between the two displays. The ARC display is much much better!

The two speakers of the Xperia play are realy good but they don't get as loud as the Blackberry Bold 9700. The Blackberry Bold 9700s speaker blows everything away! The xperia play is closest to the Blackberry Bold 9700.

The xperia play speakers are only superior in terms of Bass (if you can talk about bass on such tiny speakers) ;-)

The frontbuttons don't have a nice backlight as the X10 or the Arc between them and the 4 buttons are too small; they should have left out the search-button.

And the notification LED on the top of the device is as dumb as on the Arc...

So, there's still some homework for SonyEricsson to make the Play as great as it was supposed to be!
[Xperia Play General] Mozza2k11:
I will try answer what i can. I pressed thanks instead of quote also :p lol.

1. Well the only none gsm xplay is the r800x (verizon, usa). I have the r800i which is probably the best gsm one to get (since you can buy it sim free) depends on where you live.

2. Do you have any games in particular? Everything i have tried so far works great except some games with fpse but thats probably the same for any other phone.

3. Dont have my bootloader unlocked. So someone will have to comment

4. CM7 is only the really custom rom atm. There are a few custom firmwares around like FTS v05+ % with Doomlords kernel

5. I think most people are using doomlords kernel? Cm7 has its own kernel if you plan on using it.

6. They are never really 100% true are they? All you have to go on is with what people have posted in DooMLoRDs thread

7. Only on photos and videos

8. My friends have a SGS2 & Optimus 2x and anything there phones can do so can mine and the arc is basically the same as the xplay. The game controls take this phone to a whole different level. So its pointless to even think of comparing gaming lol.

9. Its ok probably the same as any other 5MP camera. I didnt buy this phone for the camera i have a digi one :)

10. None that i have come across personally. People have complained about the light sensor but i think it works great.

11. EPIC. I would not even think of trying to play games via touchscreen now lol. Just depends on the game tho. I have been hammering mine and everything is still working great.

12. Is doesnt need to be cracked. As long as you get a none carrier locked phone (r800i sim free) you can officially unlock it on the SE website. http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/ even if it is carrier locked you can now get it unlocked by Alejandrissimo

13. IMO i would say it will be ok. Nothing is really being launched solely for use on dual core phones yet and i cannot see it happening anytime soon. As i have said before everything i have tried works as it should. SE is also supporting the device.
[Xperia Play General] Pjay12:
Thanks guys. Thanks very much. :) I like this community already

About the benchmarks- I dont pay very much attention to them myself. Just wanted a rough idea. SGS2 goes to 4000~ , 2x around 2500 (I think) etc

About Bravia, I saw something about it in the x10 forums. Didnt buy it at all. But this looks promising. Is the difference very noticeable?

About the games, I meant the most demanding ones. To my knowledge Fast 5, Asphalt 6, Sandstorm 2, Backstab, the other gameloft games that look so ******* good.

Also, some games say Xperia Play optimized. Does this mean the games are optimized to work with the xperia PS controls only? Or are there improvements in gameplay, graphics, etc?

About the processor, taken from gsmarena - 1GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon

Both the arc and the neo have the same thing. Is there any difference in gaming/performance, etc?

The SGS2 has- Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.

As far as I know SGS2 can be overclocked to 1500 whereas the play can go upto 1900. Both processors have pretty much the same performance?

Thanks guys for the replies. And really fast too. Thank you very much :)

Edit- also, (few more questions) how much free RAM to you have on average? And after extended use? How great is mutitasking on the Xplay?
[Xperia Play General] gunawan-1:
Agree. My wife satisfy with Xperia Play. Although heavier than X10. But I should admit, the camera is so poor.......

GN Multimedia - Xperia Arc
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
Granted the ripped video i played is 3500kbps as per mediainfo but the thing is, Diceplayer plays it perfectly. So whats the issue??

SD isnt HD and there is a noticeable difference to my eyes since im using a clear screen protector, not a matt type.
[Xperia Play General] speedyink:
Have you used XLoud? With XLoud enabled I seriously doubt the Bold 9700 would be as loud, or sound near as good doing it.

Ok boys and girls, let's bust out the numbers.

720p video resolution = 1280x720

XPlay screen resolutin = 854x480

How the hell will HD videos look better on screen that doesn't have that many pixels? The Xplay's resolution is VERY similar to 480p video, or standard definition.

If you're really gonna be anal about the few pixels your losing, then down convert your 720p to the Xplay's native screen resolution. That will enable smooth playback and the best possible video quality.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
If you have not tried it, stop being anal about it. Do you think its my first time downloading and watching movies on my Play?? Gimme a break, there is a difference in details of a HD and SD rip.

My question now is why Diceplayer handles 720p perfectly and if there are other 'free' apps that matches up to it.
[Xperia Play General] speedyink:
My point wasn't about the source resolution, just the end result file resolution. What's the point of trying to make 1280x720 res file play on a 854x480 screen? Just convert it to a smaller resolution.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
COnverting takes time and a bleeding fast computer/laptop. Still, you havent answered my main question. Next please.:rolleyes:
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
I think a 720p video would still look better on our screen then a 480p one.... Crisper and more detailed?
[Xperia Play General] Mael5trom:
there is absolutely no point in running higher resolution video than what the screen can display, these aren't phosphor dot screens with crazy sub pixel real output, its good old 1 to 1 pixel output, if your running higher resolution feed your phone will simply downscale the content the best it can to fit and display that, this may include poorer performance/battery usage and possible image distortion.

running higher resolution video is purely convenience, personally i just crack out handbrake and convert them to the best resolution/bitrate for my phone because space is also a big issue for me even on a 32gb card. needing a high speed computer is a bit of a cop out in this day and age, if your running less than a core2 duo then maybe you should spend less on phones and upgrade your poor bloody pc (thats a joke..kinda)
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
I totally agree, once you reach the native resolution of the screen 854x480 you will not see any diffrence.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
Like hell im going to buy a brand new PC just convert to a less resolution might as well watch it on the PC.. :rolleyes:

Rather than spend for a PC heck i'll just buy Diceplayer and save me all the agony of waiting for conversion. Ironically I have a core2 duo laptop and conversion from MKV HD to SD is painstakingly slow.
[Xperia Play General] juami:
Diceplayer can handle Soc's video decoder directly. ( Qualcomm QSD8255 or something )

Other player can not handle HW video decoder. they just call default android media player or SW decoder.

Diceplayer solve container & audio codec issue. so you can play MKVs with DTS/AC-3 with full HW video decoding.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
Awesome. I'll get it from the market then. Thanks.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
If your new pc is core2duo you to keep up to date :p that was 3 generations of CPU ago :D
[Xperia Play General] Pjay12:
Thanks a lot :))

Atm, Im torn between the arc and the play..

Im leaning towards the arc cos im not an absolute HARDCORE gamer. The arc has a superb camera.. Does the DDR2 memory actually play that great a role? Does it put the plays performance miles ahead of the arc? When it comes down to gaming, how does the arc compete with the play?
[Xperia Play General] Mozza2k11:
Comparing the xplay with any other phone on gaming is ridiculous. The game controls just cannot be compared to using the touch screen for gaming. I suppose if you are comparing touch screen games like cut the rope then they are possibly the same? But any decent game will play 100x better on the xplay due to the controls.

I cannot really comment on the DDR2 but im guessing its helps with gaming?

Im not a hardcore gamer also. It is nice though that when i do want to play a game that it wont suck. I have found myself playing games more + more since i have the controls.
[Xperia Play General] Pjay12:
Damn its so hard.......!!!

In your honest opinion, how are the touch pads?

I read in a review or two that if you even raise your finger slightly or apply too much pressure on them they're unresponsive.. Is this false?

Basically it comes down to camera (plus all its wow features), BRAVIA, a much slimmer lighter phone and a slightly bigger screen vs. PS controls, a few extra games and DDR2.

Both are the same price in my country.

God help me...

PS- I know this is the Xplay forum :P I'd just like a few opinions, Im not a big fan of opening new threads and cluttering up the forum(s). Forgive me if these posts are spam.
[Xperia Play General] Cat_On_Droid:
how much are you into gaming? the only reason i bought this was because i wanted a portable phone that could play playstation and android games

i got exactly that! and ignored the abysmal camera

For the touch pads;

Some games are PERFECT with it! (DEADSPACE,GUns And gory and AGE OF ZOMBIES!!!) while the playstation games (PSXPERIA) are jittery
[Xperia Play General] Pjay12:
Hmmm... Not a very heavy gamer. I do play when I can. I like the games available on the market. Currently i have an xperia x8, definitely not a good phone for gaming.. But I really like how some of the other games out there look. Sandstorm 2, Fast 5, Starfront collision and Asphalt 6 are what I want the most. But is it worth getting this phone to play those? Does the Xplay have a future? Ex - PS2 games, PSP games, NDS emulators?
[Xperia Play General] FK1983:
The arc does have the better screen, camera, hd video recording and is very thin, depends what you want but the problem with the arc is the same as every other device when it comes to playing any games, your stuck using touch screen controls! this is where the Play will always win!

The DDR2 memory runs at a faster speed, it should reduce loading times, allow better textures and run things generally faster than standard DDR memory, its just one of the things in the Play that make it even better for gaming.

It's a bit like going from DDR memory to DDR2 memory in your desktop pc, it just runs everything better, makes the os more responsive etc.

Only you can decide that!

Looking at the future we do have the PlayStation Suite coming very soon, what this includes exactly noone really knows but PSP games and PSN features are rumored, plus we should keep getting exclusives, ps one games, latest android games, continued support from SE and the community here etc.
[Xperia Play General] speedyink:
Bleeding edge PC? Please. Video encoding takes time, period. You do NOT need to buy a bleeding edge computer to convert a video. The ONLY reason for making a device with a 854x480 screen play a 1280x720 file is laziness. It will use more power, which means less battery life, and also use more space of your max 32gb. It's just not efficient, whatsoever, and I for one prefer converting my videos on, yes, my core 2 duo laptop and first gen phenom computer, because they're so bleeding edge :rolleyes:

But do whatever you want
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
The Galaxy Note is going to cost around 700 dollars. That can buy you at least a super netbook, or a low-end Ultrabook.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
You can call it lazy but i call it smart. You're just wasting time converting with your slow CPU. Why the hell would anyone want to download a movie and spend another 20-45 minutes to convert it to fit and then transfer to the phone??? Person with too much time on their hands I guess

Bought diceplayer and plays 720p mp4 rips beautifully. The xperia play battery is more than capable to handle a 2 hour 720p movie on diceplayer. Dont be stupid.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
Excuse me. Please can you explane to me how you consider:

1) Playing a video at a resolution nearly 1.5 times higher than the maximum display resolution.

2) Wasting battery by hammering you CPU decoding HD video even though your device only has a SD screen.

3) Taking up twice the amount of space on your SD card than is nessesary.

Is smart? when you can put a video on to convert. Go get some lunch and when your back it's done :rolleyes:
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
Dont need to. Plays 720p youtube videos just fine and thats what i do most with it.

Considering utorrent can be used on android I might decrease the amount of rips i download on the laptop.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
1) Ease of use. I dont care. The phone takes care of it smoothly thats all it matters. Why do you want to makes things hard for yourself? Agree?

2) The battery can manage a HD video just fine. Xperia GPU has 720p decoding capability and this is taken advantage of by Diceplayer. Try it.

3) Er you can learn to manage the SD card space. Or like me get a 32GB one?

Sorry i dont waste time converting. I transfer the hd video to my phone and play it on the train to work. Smart eh?
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
i HAVE A 32GB SD Card.

7GB of gameloft games

2GB of apps

5GB of music

3GB of Videos

7GB of PSX roms

It dosent go far :p thats without other game resources ect :D
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
Thats where you are not smart. you dont play all of the games at the same time. I load 2-3 PSX games i like the most and have space for other entertainment. Learn some resource management please.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
That way i have a choice. I dont spend all day everyday at home. So i can't transfer data to and from my PC all the time. You seem to think you have to sit there watching video's convert. Set 3 or 4 video's to convert and go out, do what you gotta do, when you get home they'll be done :rolleyes: The logic of some people is perplexing :p
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
That makes the 2 of us.

I'll rather set the PC to download more new hd videos than converting.

With diceplayer I dont need to convert. Why should I? :rolleyes:
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
You can download and convert you know. :p Anyway everyone is diffrent, otherwise we would all be robots :D
[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
Why can't this thing play .avi videos? Seems pretty pathetic that it can't do it considering that it is a very widely used video format. Wtf to that pile of bull*hit!
[Xperia Play General] metcard:
Download moboplayer from the market and stress less.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
.avi is Proprietary software owned by Microsoft. Thats the reason its not included as a native codec in android :)
[Xperia Play General] speedyink:
I wasn't aware there was something forcing you to watch the progress bar of a conversion. Hahah, lame jabs like that just highlight the lack of any sort of knowledgeable reply.

Look dude, I'm not gonna argue with you. You can call me stupid all you like, still doesn't change the fact that higher definition = more space. 32gb isn't as much as you think, I can fill that up with just music. Files taking less space means more files can fit on the card, which means more variety without having to constantly cycle you data to keep entertained. Not to mention the battery savings. Yes yes, the Play can handle hardware acceleration of 720p, still doesn't mean it uses more cpu/gpu cycles which equals a bigger hit on the battery.

You can call it whatever you like, I call it lazy.

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[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
Well then that explains it then not a big deal I'll just convert the stuff I want on my computer
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
Converting seems to be the way to go if you are in need of space.. You can have more videos with you.... And watch more too since it won't be as power draining. I also have around 10gb of games with me, I really don't want to keep hooking up my phone to the laptop and waiting for the transfer each time I want to play a different game.
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
If you buy the arc... You are just buying a regular thin phone.. Buy the play and you have a real all in one gaming masterpiece.

Don't listen to the reviews about the dual touchpad.. Most of the retarded reviewers didn't know how to use it, since they think that the thumb had to stay in the middle silver dot. Once you play around with the dual pads, you will love it, it's more comfortable then the ps3 one because you don't have to use any force.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
Dont wanna argue? Gimme a break, why bother replying then?

The main thing with the way I do it, it takes less time, and the 'bigger' hit on the battery you're talking about is around 5% more at most. In fact, software players takes even more CPU cycles coz it tries emulating rather than directly accessing the GPU which does the job even much much lesser time. If you already have a capable GPU and dont utilize it, I call it stupid.

Well each have their own resource management preferences. If you like to fill it up with games and all thats fine. But dont jab at others because i like to fill it with 720p rips then. Besides we probably watch the movie once and delete it from the phone.
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
The pad's good but better than PS3? Dont think so. If you have played FPS on ps3 and compare to playing FPS on the Play, the DS3 ****s all over Play's touchpads

A better implementation would have been to adopt PSP's thumbstick. The pads are only second best to it.
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
The controls are easier to control to me then the ps3 I am like swiping over holding and waiting
[Xperia Play General] lcw1980:
ROFL! If there was ever an app for me to use my ds3 against your pad...prepare to be fragged in NOVA
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
You get an app in the market to let you use your PS3 6 axis pad on android :p
[Xperia Play General] TLRtheory:
lol that's assuming the DS3 controls aren't botched.

...incidentally enough, NOVA is on PS3 as a mini... and the controls are a mess.
[Xperia Play General] Fokezy:
TL;DR

Can you tell me what is it called...in the meantime ill prob find it,but still...:)

The play Is so underrated...The important thing is that people who are not idiots understand its true quality

Unlike the iPhone which looks great at first but is actually nothing special,the play is more satisfying the more you use it. And believe me that every friend I have that has an iPhone or a Nokia N8 (most popular phones on the Balkans) says He/She would buy my phone rather than giving 600-800 euros for their ****ty phones:p

I cancelled my Arc just so i can buy the play cuz i knew people who feel like me and understand android better would fix all the big flaws and add things like bravia engine...

One thing I don't like is it records video in outdated 3gp format...and when i tried to play my vaication videos to my family via my ps3...it couldn't play them! I know this can be fixed with some apps,but it makes SE look like a bunch of non-caring people
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
One thing I love is the included headset. When listening to music on the phone, which I do a lot, they sound as good as my Skullcandy earbuds. The headset that came with my sister's galaxy s however, sounds like garbage lol

On top of that, I noticed that the stock music player can go for hours on end without killing the battery. I get just as much time on one charge with the play as I do with my iPod classic.

I guess it's to be expected from the company that revolutionized portable music with the Walkman.

People keep trying to say Apple revolutionized things with the iPod. It may be true that they improved mp3 players, but Sony revolutionized portable music period, long before them.

Sent from my R800
[Xperia Play General] hasaan6545:
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@lcw1980

I tested several 720p MKV Videos personally on all players and they work fine on Xperia PLAY. Dice Player was good but MX Player's SW Codec (fast mode) was better.
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
I've been using daroon player lately for anime, since it's the only one that renders subtitles with full styling, and signs. It lags for 720p, but 480 looks good enough on a 4 inch screen anyway.

Sent from my R800
[Xperia Play General] system02:
I had both phones: Arc and Play and the display of the Arc is MUCH MUCH better than the Play. The display of the Play is dark and I had to adjust the brightness slider to the right side. It's a shame that SonyEricsson used such a bad display compared to other phones. That's my personal experience with the Play.

The ringtones on the BB 9700 are louder than on my last Xperia Play. The speakers of the Xperia Play clearly have more and deeper sound but only as loud as my BB 9700.

Does the xLoud-Feature affect ringtones, too or only music?

Actualy I'm deciding in giving the Xperia Play another try or buy an Arc S...
[Xperia Play General] FK1983:
I think you have a faulty Play then as the screen is very bright and even more amazing once you disable auto brightness (there is now a way),

With auto brightness off the screen on the Play easily matches 95% of the screens out there, I actually had to turn it down a bit!

P.S, xloud affects anything that comes out of the speakers and/or earphones
[Xperia Play General] hasaan6545:
System02

Xperia Play is great, I think you should get it!

I don't regret choosing this over Xperia Arc. It has much more features!

I don't know if xLoud works on ringtones (Ring Volume) but it works on all media and games (Media Volume)

About screen quality, Xperia PLAY is great and less pixelated than Arc.

Hatcyl made an app for controlling brightness on Xperia Play. All reviewers say that the screen looks awesome when auto brightness is disabled.

I really want to buy the app but have problems with online credit on market :'(
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
It's less pixilated because the screen is the same resolution at a smaller size.

Sent from my R800