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[HTC Sensation] bdziuba88:
I don't understand a question... Why to buy HTC phone if you don't like Sene? I know thst HTCs look good, but Sense is the second half of the phone, without which the HTC phone is incomplete. I had a few other brands android phones and in all I missed Sense.
[HTC Sensation] kraddark:
I am also using viperS 1.3.0 and so far sense runs very smooth on it. I personally prefer sense since it's the heart of the HTC Sensation. I have already tried several ROMs w/o sense and it's true that they are faster since there are less eyecandies but personally I'll stick with sense. If I have a phone with lower specs then that's the time that I will go "sense"less. :cool:
[HTC Sensation] klanistok:
no sense without htc sense
[HTC Sensation] readams:
I really like the stock experience post ICS; sense is just dated and adds too much slowness and not any real useful features.
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
i was a fan of sense for a long time. i tried every rom with sense and my previous daily driver was ViperS sense 4.1..

then i tried cm9 and cm10..i was amazed how smooth and fast it is..
[HTC Sensation] aluget:
I'm using Desensed Elegancia with ssLauncher and loving it
[HTC Sensation] DugyC:
No Sense

I bought HTC because of Sense but after moving from my Hero to my Sensation I realised I never used any of the Sense features, and looking back didn't really use them on my Hero either... It does look great though, but I never used any of the functionality, preferring third party apps.

Now that I have flashed the CM10 ROM from Bruce, I adore my device, no longer slow and laggy with the Sense and Vodafone bloatware, and absolutely flying along and such a joy to use now. My productivity on it has gone up ten fold.

I don't miss Sense at all, my next phone is going to be a Nexus phone, no skins for me! :victory:
[HTC Sensation] minminmin1:
sense is beautiful and easy to use, but nonsense is fast:(
[HTC Sensation] The_OP:
+1. Also you should check out the DragunKorr's CM10 build of Paranoid Android.
[HTC Sensation] akbisw:
What HTC needs is not sense, BUT Sense apps and widgets on native android framework. Sense email is godly and weather and clock stuff is the best I have ever experienced in an app. They just need to work with the android framework and ditch the sense framework.
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
The reason I buy HTC Sensation is because the Sense UI so attractive. And I love it.

I'm using Sense 4 now. Have tried AOKP & CM9 without Sense and Love it because of its speed.

But I switched back to another ROM with Sense.

It's simple, because I can't live without the Sense calendar, the Camera, and the Sense Clock.

Not as fast as AOSP though, but I love what I need. So, Sense is make sense for me.

It just work and well integrated. So....... I prefer Sense.

So, sorry for who disagree.

Let's agree to disagree.... :)
[HTC Sensation] riotman:
signed. same for me
[HTC Sensation] pvchip3:
Same here
[HTC Sensation] shadal:
The same for me. If you like sense 3.6, i would recommend arhd 6.7.2 with faux123 kernel v009. ( gpu OC to 320mhz ). Its preetty fast, responsive and really close to perfection with 3d launcher animation - almost no frameskip. I love it. You only need to charge your phone every day.

syntax_ gosong, which sense 4 rom you are using ? I still want to try sense 4 out.
[HTC Sensation] pvchip3:
Vipers latest really smooth..sense 4.1:D
[HTC Sensation] Crazy_Rican:
I am currently running Elegancia Pegausus 3.2.0 with xxxPatchaxxx's v2.0 stable kernel..."FREAKING AWESOME KERNEL BTW"! Sense is awesome and the HTC is mainly for Sense. Now, trying a "Non-Sense" ROM is up to the owner's device (Sensation). I tried JB a few times, but carrier data gives me issues. Loved that JB and if I could have it on my Senny w/out issues, I would probably have it now.

So, I think Sense or No-Sense...is up to "you"!;)
[HTC Sensation] NicoC72:
Just got my Sensation, and I got to say it's a toss up for me. I started using Android on a Optimus V, so I had pure Android from the get go. Sense adds a lot of flavor to the OS, but some of the apps seem hindered in my opinion. The perfect mix for me would be the stock launcher and skin of Sense 3.0 with the apps and settings of CM9/10.
[HTC Sensation] Mrzoops:
no sense
[HTC Sensation] Corvo007:
I prefer pure Android UI, CMX, but Sense isn't bad too.
[HTC Sensation] :
For some reasons, AOSP, AOKP or CM ROMs just don't function properly on my Sensation, there's always something that isn't right. I notice that only Sense-based roms work well on my phone, albeit the speed. I'm also fond of the Sense lockscreen and notification layout, so I always find myself going back to Sense.
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
Hi,

I'm using the latest ViperS 1.3.5.

It's very smooth and, for me, I don't even really need to overclock it.

Try it out by yourself.
[HTC Sensation] zen888:
sense, i missed the sense when i flashed with cm10,
[HTC Sensation] eptkno:
similarly, parted with Sense, when flashed CM10
[HTC Sensation] wildcontigo:
Tried cm10. Installed go launcher to try to get some sense, but it just didn't make sense without real sense. Do I make sense?
[HTC Sensation] Guuske:
Which CM10 for Sensation? There is no CM10 from cyanogenmod, not even a nightly.

I use bruce2728's jellybean ROM and I haven't missed sense for a second!

Buy an HTC, root it, flash it, start using it. In that order.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
You know Bruce's JB ROM is CM10, right?
[HTC Sensation] tobitege:
I've had Sense for the last couple of roms and thought it was using too much mem. Since the switch to Bruce's rom in combination with Apex Pro I don't even look back... all is fast and smooth (no lag), also - fortunately - I haven't had any major issues with WiFi, BT or data as others had (or still have).

How it works right now I don't even have wishes to upgrade my phone as newer hardware wouldn't help me at all, saving me money to eventually get a decent tablet (I did donate to Bruce to show my appreciation for his work).

I saw lots of people still rooting for Sense, but maybe you guys could priortize a list of Sense-specific items from "utterly required" to "can live without"? As a software developer I'm interested in what kind of features users desire.

Cheers
[HTC Sensation] vickfred:
Sense is better

Many times I tried Sense-less ROM's but always come back to Sense. Now using Elegancia with Sense 4.:cowboy:
[HTC Sensation] chev:
I dont see the point of buying a sense based phone and switching it to no-sense rom.
[HTC Sensation] tobitege:
Well, I bought my Sensation only partially because of Sense, obviously there's the visual appearance that leaves impressions.

But at the time it was hardware- and performance wise one of the better ones and that made the deal for me.

Now, having the option to keep my "old" hardware more current with a new rom makes total sense to me, especially if there's no clear and dedicated upgrade announced to JB by HTC. Why stay on old software then in the meantime? ;)
[HTC Sensation] chev:
Yeah shouldve told that to myself, now im eyeing on CMX :)
[HTC Sensation] Lemontea[kor]:
I like sense ui

but sometimes heavy..
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Thats like saying you dont see the point of buying a house if you want to remodel it.
[HTC Sensation] bugsy2126:
Sense was OK, people cried pretty hard about it. But stock ROM's are certainly faster Once you get JB, you will never want to go back.
[HTC Sensation] Kid_droid:
I couldnt wait to jump on CM10 and say be gone with sense..but when I flashed viper s 1.3.5 with 4.1 and playef around with the tweaks I must say my Nova prime launcher is starting to miss me..speed is okay but I don't play games..just music text and browse and you can't go wrong with sense Camera!

Viper S Rom 1.3.5
[HTC Sensation] shammanCZ:
Even though iam switching between NOVA Launcher and APEX back and forth atm to try them, i find no logic in buying HTC phone to get rid of the Sense UI. Its like buying a MAC to install Windows on it, it just makes no sense whatsoever, but well, some people are different. Furthermore after recent events around JB release i see no logic in buying HTC phones in global. So yea ... deffo Sense
[HTC Sensation] GaGiLu:
i preefer more no sense roms cz i no like have to use apps i no need / like in no sense roms i can choose the most apps i want or i no need.

when i was on sense before, it also was slow and eat my battery. sense have very no-need-features.

but everyone have a other meaning about sense / nosense.
[HTC Sensation] alphaz1:
Would have loved Sense, but it's a memory hog. Right now I'm on HyperNonSense, loving it. I can use any launcher, no sense bloatwares, and still have sense camera which is much2 better than AOSP camera.
[HTC Sensation] Fox75:
Link contacts from different sources is from SENSE?

Hi,

does somebody knows if the feature to combine one one view all the info coming from linked contacts (e.g. google, facebook, whatsapp,...) is something from SENSE ?

If yes does anybody know if there is a way to have this feature to link contacts of different sources without SENSE ?

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] NEXUSBOY:
Am n lov wit sens:)
[HTC Sensation] vickfred:
I have been with CM10 and I had this feature, though there is no Sense in that ROM. Also have been with OpenSense and I think one could see different accounts and infos about the Contacts (People). So, to my humble opinion, one can also have this in Sense-less ROM's, like CM10.
[HTC Sensation] Fox75:
I currently use cm10.

For example on one person I see the linkedIn info(this is the only that somehow works) , but not whatsapp, and not Facebook....

And I can not tell from which of those account the phone should use the picture as reference (e. g. when incoming phone call).
[HTC Sensation] chielmi:
I have been using HTC phones for the last 2,5 years. Got really used to the Sense UI. Recently I switched to a non-Sense JB rom. I should have switched to non-Sense custom roms way earlier!

Most of the times I don't miss Sense at all. Apps like Beautiful widgets (for fully customizable HTC like clock/weather widgets), Business calendar (for a clean agenda widget), Apex launcher (one of the reasons to use this launcher was to change the app drawer to a vertical one again, after using Sense for that long I couldn't get used to horizontally swiping between pages...) add the Sense-like functionality I was missing after installing the custom rom.

Things like contact integration between Google / Whatsapp / FB, the agenda app, alarms / timer / world clock is better in Sense. But the whole user experience is a LOT better with my current CM10 rom by Bruce. The phone is just so much faster and smoother. It feels like I have a complete new phone now :D
[HTC Sensation] ed3nsect:
No sense-rom, of course. I never didn't like sense, too heavy and really less smooth than "no-sense" based rom, like Cm10 by Bruce or something like that. Now i'm using Miui, and it works like a charm! UI is very smooth and fast, my sensation lives again! the consumption of ram is very low, battery life is improved and the system is very reactive. No lags as when I used sense based rom.:p
[HTC Sensation] chielmi:
Today I noticed one other small Sense feature I thought would be standard in Android, but doesn't seem to work. In a Sense rom you can see whether you plugged in a headset or headphones in the phone. Handy feature, especially when plugging in the headset the phone sometimes sees it as a headphone so the microphone won't work. I think this is a Sense-only feature?
[HTC Sensation] shammanCZ:
same job does for example Widget Locker + "insert any random music player name"
[HTC Sensation] no fit state:
I am a fan of sense, but having been running a Miui rom for the past week and I can say that I'm not missing it.
[HTC Sensation] muabaylentroi:
Sense make your device slower than non-sense.
[HTC Sensation] gozdzickip:
Sense/No Sense

I've been using Sense Roms for more than a year and I got addicted to it. But after installing Bruce's CM10 I realized that Sense is a little bit too heavy and despite the fact that I like how it looks I decided to stick to CM10. Other thing is that I can't stand a day without flashing new ROM update and CM is being updated really frequently
[HTC Sensation] calyxim:
One X is as smooth as s3. If you want fast sense and ****e battery life one x is the way to go.

I think we all mean contacts app by saying sense. Because the rest of the sense stuff has alternatives.
[HTC Sensation] .TanTien:
Don't like Sense. Slow, bulky and too much knick knack I don't need. The only good thing about Sense is the userfriendliness and the clock widget. But I can live without those things because speed matters more to me.
[HTC Sensation] gustav30:
I want to like a jelly bean Rom, but the slow scrolling drives me a bit crazy. Especially in a browser. I keep going back to VI or hypernonsense.

But it must be just me that gets annoyed with it because the JB roms are so popular.

If I'm missing something when it comes to JB Roms and scrolling let me as I'm happy to flash and try.
[HTC Sensation] hallowilicious:
Actually, Sense is great with many stuff that support for an user. At least for me.

But there's a problem that is sense is too heavy :(

I also prefer the smooth, the beauty of minimal UI, so I choose to use a non-sense ROM, and waiting for a 4.1 sense ROM with hope that butter project will improve sense performance :D
[HTC Sensation] IzeCold:
I like the sense - well just apart from one thing.

I hate that sense doesnt give me an option to disable it when i am on facebook. It F##ks up my contact list every time.

if I could disable that "bug" i might return to a ROM with sense again.
[HTC Sensation] MMoodyB:
Try frankinstine's AOKP JB build :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1828250

It has options to adjust the scrolling behaviour / speed.
[HTC Sensation] s0geking:
Why choose a HTC if you don't like sense??
[HTC Sensation] chielmi:
I chose HTC mainly for the design of their phones. I like the design much more than Samsung or LG phones. I used to like Sense, but since I've been using CM10 I have never really missed it :good:
[HTC Sensation] Mastegl:
I chose HTC because I liked Sense design... It was in times when we have only Android 2.2... but now, Sense was to slow and Sensation have not enough RAM (in my use) to run it smooth. So I had a lots of Sense restarts and almost all took very long time to load. So I decided to try for the first time flash custom ROM. I chose Bruce´s CM10 ROM and I am mega happy now. Everything run smooth and quicker, faster then ever. I miss some of Sense features, but the "rocket speed" of my Sensation now has much bigger value for me.
[HTC Sensation] raunaqK253:
No Sense

I used to like Sense, before JB. Sense is too heavy, slow and too many needless animations and design elements. Stock Android is much cleaner and smoother. Using Bruce's CM10 ROM, no regrets, much better than the official HTC ICS ROM.

I love HTC for their design and build, not so much for their software (Sense etc.)
[HTC Sensation] aliko007:
If I don't like sense I wouldn't be here . I love Htc because the sense and I love him until the end
[HTC Sensation] radimj:
I loved sense, but seems to me heavy. Itried pure aosp and honestly I like IT. :cool:
[HTC Sensation] modyali88:
life without Sense

I've been using CM10 and other non-sense Roms for a while now .. and they're much quicker than Sense Roms .. especially Jelly Bean .. I don't think Jelly bean and Sense would go smoother than the one out now with CM10 and parandroid ..

My Sensation is much quicker without sense ..:D
[HTC Sensation] nelsonator1982:
i can go either way on sense if cm10 was working better i would be all on it for now ill stick with sense
[HTC Sensation] vanhalendlrband:
I've been using ciles JB with no Sense. Thing runs so smooth, the only thing i can't figure out is if the SNES emulation is having random slowdowns from the OS or from the lack of an Overclock. However it runs faster than my previous build (which i forget which one it was) of Ice Cream Sandwich and Sense 3.5, much quicker. Only thing i've had problems with is SNES emulation. Everything else is as flawless as my ICS+Sense build. I'm just not sure how much better the build from the guy who took over Ciles build is, or what's different about it?
[HTC Sensation] typci:
I came from a Huawei U8800 running GB to the Sensation Xe running the European 3.32 ICS ROM.

I've had nothing but a bad experience with this phone, and I'd contribute 90+% of it to Sense and the rest to HTC unnecessary lockdowns on the phone (rooting my U8800 meant dragging and dropping a new boot.img). I hate the unlock ring, the drop down menu doesn't have the features I want, could care less about the widgets and lock-screen stuff. Worst of all, lots of time when I'm in an app and press the home button, I'm welcomed to a loading screen, and have to wait a few seconds to continue using my phone. My girlfriend bought a cheap Chinese knock-off/counterfeit phone for $45 (we're in China), and her phone seems more user friendly than my Sensation XE.

Will someone please tell me the advantages of sense? I honestly have not found one thing beneficial about it. Maybe I'm using the phone wrong?
[HTC Sensation] scm_crash:
The first day I bought my sensation when it was brand spanking new, I couldn't stand sense. I came from a Nexus One which was vanilla Android and even that I had rooted the second day I had it to put CM5 on it.

Sense made the phone slow, drained the battery, and the fact that you couldn't view the drawer or home screen in landscape was absolutely awful. In addition, the drawer was annoying as far as paging through the apps.

I like to control what my phone does. Sense doesn't like to let you control what your phone does. To me Android is supposed to be open and configurable. If I wanted a phone I couldn't make do what I wanted it to do, I'd have bought an iPhone. So I put ARHD on my phone the day after I'd purchased it and then cleaned it out with a non-sense script.

The problem is that it was still sense even without the stupid launcher or drawer. The biggest issue with Sense on the Sensation (and a few other phones I found out) was the god-awful "Quiet on Pickup" option. The option that would make your phone go silent when you're receiving a call and the phone moves. This has got to be the dumbest idea ever. Worse than the submarine screen door. If you were walking, you'd have no clue that there was a phone call going on in your pocket so I'd NEVER know when someone was calling me since I walk a lot. And the option to turn it off NEVER worked. Check the box, don't check the box. It didn't matter. It just stayed on.

That's when I got desperate and went in search for an AOSP or AOKP to put on my phone. Anything to strip that stupid embedded Sense crap that was killing the usability of my phone.

What I don't understand is why HTC doesn't give us the option to get rid of the Sense stuff. After all, this is an open source OS and was meant to be customized. Yet Sense is no different from iOS, giving all the stupid graphical crap that doesn't matter and stripping the customization factor.

The one and only thing I will say that Sense did right is native WMV decoding. It's the one thing I miss, but honestly it wasn't a big enough option to keep Sense around. I just convert all videos to MP4 and call it a day.

In the mean time, my phone goes 24 hours without needing to be recharged, it's faster and always updated to the latest version of Android LONG before HTC gets it out. I had ICS on my phone months before HTC released it (thanks to the amazing developers on this forum) and Jelly Bean 4.1 knowing that HTC probably won't even update the Sensation to JB. I'm on CMX right now and I couldn't be happier. Everything works and it works fast. When I was on a Sense ROM, I felt I had to up the clock to 1.5GHz in order to make things run right. Now my processor sits pretty at 1.18GHz (like the stock clock) and runs smoother and faster than any sense ROM running at 1.7GHz.

We all like bacon, but we also all know stripping the fat out of your diet is good for you. I can live without the 3D BS if I know my phone is going to be more reliable, customizable, faster, smoother and more compatible with new technology. No big brother set-in-stone BS for me.
[HTC Sensation] ronattack:
Sense roms

Sense. I always come back to sense 4.0 roms, they are just better. The camera, browser, benchmarks, functionality, the look, THE BATTERY LIFE. I average 4-5 hrs on screen time on sense and im lucky if i get 2- 2.5 on cm10. Oh and the scrolling. I cant stand the damn scrolling on aosp. Stock jb is just too boring for me :(
[HTC Sensation] CMB350:
My wife likes Sense on her Sensation. I personally don't like Sense. Finally got rid of it on my Amaze.

I may have the wife try CM10 on the Sensation though.

This thread is exactly why I like Android. We have choices...
[HTC Sensation] realsis:
Yes choices are great! I started out using sense but moved on to running no sense roms. It seems to me, in my opinion, that a no sense rom is definitely smoother, faster, less lag. So I've just stayed no sense. Surprisingly I don't miss sense at all. I'm happy without it. Also it seems better battery life too, without sense. So my vote would be no sense. However as above post wrote, it's nice to have choices because we are all different and all have different likes and dislikes. This way everyone is happy, sense, or no sense, the choice is our own.

Sent from my DKOS TWEAKED_r2
[HTC Sensation] Byro-ATM:
I think Sense is a great launcher but after removal with titanium and using nova I've been converted :)
[HTC Sensation] F_L_X:
Back then on GB I used to love Sense and I couldn't stand the Vanilla Android. But after testing a couple of different CM and AOSP roms and especially after the ICS update I got used to the standard Interface. Right now I am running Nova Launcher and I wouldn't switch back, because it's way smoother and it looks great.
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
I'm confused by peoples who bought HTC with SenseUI but doesn't like the experience.

Why don't you tried the phone out before buying?

Many shops has it's phone display which the guests can have a try before buy the phone.

And if someone feel that the SenseUI is too heavy for them, so why bother themselves to bought it then?
[HTC Sensation] realsis:
I think it takes time to use a product before actually knowing that product. I like sense but right now I'm senseless and I like that too. It's great to have choices and you can trade off. You can't tell how a product works by looking at it's display model, that's for sure! First there display isn't even hooked up, it's impossible to know how a product is going to perform by looking at the display. That's ridiculous. You must actually use that product to get a feel of what it actually is. In defence of those who feel sense is too heavy. How could they have possibly known how it would perform by the display?? NOT possible! It takes time using a device to discover that. However it's all good because we have choices now thanks to our great developers and we can choose for ourself, sense or no sense. It's great to have the choice!

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] tonzeero:
sense is the **** for whom who's dont want to try much more theme