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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dincdoes.me:
The atrix I bought with laptop dock is unlocked and running Alien, faux1.3, custom cemetery, and was planing on putting ubuntu for my webtop experience:) but I was chatting with an att rep. And he wiped out the thrill 3d at first I was like oh a rip off of infuse but he showed me all the 3d goodness and let me play nova 3d I was quit impress.

My question is im still under best buys 30 day with 20 sumthin days left SHOULD I TRADE MY ATRIX AND GET LG THRILL I wont have laptop dock since I bought it with my lovely phone I love my Trix but I loved the demo I has with the thrill...

What do you guys think..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swiftks:
Herd it sucks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjayflo:
Up to you....if its 3D u like then run with it. LG is a downgrade IMO
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy_Thatcher:
The reviews I have read lead me to suspect you are better off with the Atrix.

But those are reviews and I wont know until I get the phone in my hand.

Suspect I am going to stay with the Atrix as it does cover all my needs. The only phone coming up that will tempt me will be the QNX Blackberry.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
The closest I ever gotten to liking "ANY" LG phone was the "CU-500" back in the day. (and that was only because of how desperate I wanted 3G at that time)

IMHO LG is too "mid-lower tier" when it comes to making phones...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dincdoes.me:
Lol ok ok.. ill wait till it gets a review n play with the phone a bit thanks I was impressed when I saw it the the rep was like toad its only single core then I lost interest. But I looked and it deft has dualcore
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarnettJr2:
Have Atrix now for about 3 Months. Longer I have it, the more I like it. Tried out Thrill @ AT&T a few times. About 3 hours total. Ran Quadrant & Smartbench on both, Thrill about 10% faster, prob because of Multi-Channel CPU & RAM. Fast & smooth. Also ran Linpack, 44MFLOPS on Atrix & 69MFLOPS on Thrill. Screen brightness & extreme angle visibility about the same. A little heavier & bigger, but not much. So if u want to try out 3D & have a little bigger screen, then Thrill may b for u. FreddieBoy
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
I think it really depends on what you want. If 3D does it for you, you will want the Thrill. Personally I wouldn't give up my Atrix unless something really special came along. I believe the Atrix is a more "mature" phone if you catch my drift, while most other phones I consider to be "toys". The Atrix isn't full of gimmicky sh*t, and the hardware hasn't really been tapped into yet to show it's full capabilities, so it will only get better.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belig1234:
Keep yo atrix till ice-scream-sand-wich !!!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swiftks:
+1
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpcdeux:
Played with a thrill in a store for a while yesterday. Screens cool and 3D is neat but hurt the **** out of my eyes after a few minutes. 2D regular pics were kinda crappy and 3d stuff isn't viewable right off of phone. (3D pics show as 2 side by side images on a computer). Needless to say I bought an ATRIX instead of waiting till Sunday for a Thrill. Cool idea but it wasn't great. Nice gimmick more than anything.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N!ghtgold:
I hav had the thrill for a week and im returning it for the atrix. The 3d is kool but not a selling point. it is fast with the dual channel but it tends to run out of memory pretty quick. I have noticed that the lg stock ui is worst then moto blur. When changing the ui to launcher pro did notice the phone was faster. ONce it is rooted and has cm7 running will be a great phone. Once I heard Lg will be releasing a better version at the bigging of the year decided i should go with the atrix. The battery life is really bad. If yuo use the 3d the battery just goes. i get about 3 to 4 hrs with nomal use and 3d. I would stick with the atrix personally but then again it is your hone so your decision. You still have days left so try it out for a week and see if it makes your day. Im getting 2800 on quadrant and 72 on linpack with the thrill
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
I'm pretty sure the thrill uses the same style 3D as the new Nintendo 3Ds. Case in point the 3Ds is having horrible sales ( that's why the price went from $250 to like $170 so fast) because it's making a lot of people nauseous (I played one at BB and it was not good lol)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dancase:
Since the Touchwiz update, my two IMAP email accounts refuse to delete emails on the server. The messages appear deleted, but on refresh they reappear.

The pre-touch-wiz email client worked fine.

Anyone else experiencing this? Know of a fix?

D.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millemots:
Had the same problem with the stock email client on my Charge. Wound up going with K-9 on the phone and stuck with that on the GTab as well; never even thought to try the stock email. Last time I checked for the Charge there wasn't a fix; be interested in finding out if there is one for the GTab.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dancase:
I tried K-9, and while there are some things it does well, the flaws outweigh the strengths. In addition to my two IMAP accounts, I have an Exchange account from my day job that I need to monitor. K-9 doesn't do exchange well at all. The K-9interface is optimized for small (phone) screens, not tablets. I wanted it to work for me, but it doesn't.

I like the interface on the TW email client. I just can't believe such a basic flaw as not deleting mail on the server got past the developers--and I'm surprised it isn't causing more uproar.

This is really sad. The GTab 10.1 is the first Android tablet with the potential to take on the iPad, but it won't evenpass the giggle test with bugs like this. AAAARGH!

D.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millemots:
Agreed that k9 isn't the greatest. Also that the issue with the stock client is beyond ridiculous. I looked into Touchdown, but didn't go with it (can't remember why). That one is supposed to have great Exchange support; not sure about IMAP though.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dancase:
Touchwiz IMAP issue--update

To recap the problem: After the recent TouchWiz update, the native email client no longer deletes IMAP email on the server. Email appears to delete, but on refresh reappears.

I tried Samsung's twitter support yesterday, looking for answers on this problem. I finally received an honest but not terribly helpful response:

"I've tested this on our Tab here and it does that too. Unfortunately there' s no way to change that. I believe it depends on which email client you have."​

I reminded her that there's only one email client on the stock GT10.1, the update broke it, and she just confirmed it as a bonifide issue. Response:

"I have reported this to our product specialists. Unfortunately, I don't have any info pertaining to a fix, I apologize."​

When I asked if there was anyone I could expedite this with, she suggested I try the Android market and use a different email client. I'd do that cheerfully if there were an email app in the market that's optimized for tablet interface instead of phone screens.

Overall, not a satisfying experience. I understand that the support tweeps can only do so much, but it didn't leave me confident that anything will change in the reasonable future.

<rant>

I hate to say it, but it left me almost wishing I'd bought an iPad. As much as I hate the Apple agenda of controlling the world and thinking on behalf of the mindless drones it controls, at least the (employer-owned) iPhone I have does email reliably and can connect me to my Juniper remote access VPN. At this point, the GT 10.1 can't do either for me.

</rant>

D.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weasal:
I had the same problem and removing the application data (Settings->Applications-> go to the gmail app) fixed the problem for me for now.

The app will have to re-sync all the emails after but now it deletes and marks messages as read correctly.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dancase:
One of the first things I tried. Didn't work for me--but then again, I didn't try it with gmail, only with the two IMAP accounts I use daily.

I finally broke down, rooted the thing, and flashed it with the original release ROM. All working fine. The only thing I lost was some of Samsung's crapware and of course the less-than-impressive TouchWiz interface. Not a huge loss, IMO.

Lesson learned: Beware of manufacturers bearing gifts and upgrades. :)

D.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xtacydima:
My ROM Manager just found that I can update to 5.0.0.1 so i did... install was successful

I am not sure if this is recent because I was on 3.0.0.8 before and its the version I read that my phone needed.

Anyone else try 5.0.0.1?

Was updating a mistake?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Teksu:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1242433

Already a thread on this
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
If you have any more questions like this, please post them in the Q/A section not the development section.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xtacydima:
oh ok, good to know, sorry & thx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rlacrossjr:
That one is old already>>> 5.0.0.8 and 5.0.1.0 released
[Gen8 Android Development] RobBrownNZ:
Hi,

I haven't had my A43 for long, but I bought it as a hacking toy rather than a productive tablet, so I've been reading these and other forums with interest. I thought I'd post where I'm at, and I'd really appreciate it if people could correct me if (when!) I make mistakes. Ultimately I'd like to see a really solid and full-functioned Gingerbread ROM for this tablet (and maybe ICS later, I'm not interested in Honeycomb since the source isn't available).

It seems that all of the kernels available for the Gen8 tablets are based on Archos' 2.6.29 - that includes the CM7 port, OpenAOS, UrukDroid etc. My chosen first task is to get a newer kernel up and running. I'm not confident to do that "blind", i.e. by uploading builds through the SDE menu and hoping it does something intelligent! So, I started looking for a serial console, and I'm pretty sure I've found it.

Looking at the rear of the board (i.e. the bit that is at the back of the tablet when it's all closed up), there are two test points. One of them is definitely carrying UART traffic, only problem is that it's at 1.8V logic levels and running at 1.0Mbps. It'll take me a day or two to organise something that will talk with those parameters.

I've already had a setback, I soldered some standard ribbon cable to those test points and when I went to close the tablet, the test points ripped off the board! This led to all manner of trouble trying to connect (thinner) wires to the remaining bits of test point, but I've managed it now. Probably more photos to come.

Is this interesting to anyone? If there's no interest I won't keep spamming the forum with updates ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] divx118:
You can take a look here http://dev.openaos.org/wiki/Gen8Resources For other kernels then the 2.6.29.

The guys could use some help :) , most of the time they can be reached on irc #openaos on freenode

Maurice
[Gen8 Android Development] scholbert:
Welcome to the world of hacking :p

Some work had been started to implement the archos patches and use newer kernel version.

Search the web... there's some efforts, especially for the A43.

As divx118 pointed out openaos.org is the best starting point.

See this post over here for some related info about UART connection on A101:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16923184&postcount=35

BTW, concerning UART testpoints on A43... you got them.

http://www.openaos.org/archives/757

Google might be your friend :rolleyes:

Yeah handle with care... it's good that you managed to solder a new wire.

Try to fix the connection mechanically with some glue.

I can confirm, the testpoints easily rip off ;)

As you see there's interest, keep on posting....

We need more hacks over here.

Best regards,

scholbert
[Gen8 Android Development] RobBrownNZ:
Well, that's a bit embarrassing... openaos.org has a ton of stuff that I hadn't seen before. It'll take me a while to dig through all that ;)

Thanks divx118 and scholbert.
[Gen8 Android Development] RobBrownNZ:
OK, I got up and running. I've got an FT2232H breakout running into a board of my own with 74LVC2T45 level shifters. My boot log is attached.

Termite (http://www.compuphase.com/software_termite.htm) allows arbitrary baud rates and doesn't require editing inf files, which is nice, although it's pretty basic in every other way!
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey i dont have experience with hardware^^

Could you please tell me what is going on here?:-)

I saw that you wanna get a newer linux kernel as our 2.6.29 but how do you want to get it with hardware modding?..
[Gen8 Android Development] RobBrownNZ:
Oh, it's quite simple. If the kernel that I'm working on doesn't boot correctly, so that it doesn't start the adb daemon (for USB debugging) or the LCD for displaying messages, then I can't see what's going wrong. And that happens to me a lot!

By having a serial console, I can see the messages from the kernel as it's starting up, without it having to boot and run those other programs.

So "hardware hacking" is probably a bit of a grand title. But "tacking on a serial console" just doesn't have the same ring to it :)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thanks for clearing it up for me!:)

It looks interesting, i will stay tuned;)
[Gen8 Android Development] divx118:
@RobBrownNZ: You can also join us at IRC #openaos on freenode or use the webplugin http://www.openaos.org/chat

Note: that most people are on european time.

Maurice
[Gen8 Android Development] cajl:
thanks RobBrownNZ

i have this Archos..

if you want some test, i am here

(i wait all blacks/france...)
[Gen8 Android Development] RobBrownNZ:
Yessss... we don't have the best record against you in World Cups. It'll be interesting to be sure!

I've been looking through so many kernels that it's doing my head in, but I've settled on 2.6.35.7 from arowboat.org. That's a good mainstream choice for Gingerbread, and an older kernel will hopefully have less differences with the 2.6.29 from Archos.

divx118: I'm on IRC, but being in the southern hemisphere, and having 2 young children, is going to prevent me from participating much! Hopefully we'll be able to chat occasionally though.

I had a look at the openAOS resources page. Hidave's and Prahal's kernel work seems to be aimed at Linux more than Android, and I think they're very brave going for version 3+ kernels. Nicktime is doing something similar to me with 2.6.37, and seems to be doing pretty well. I thought about asking him if I could join in, but I want to learn as much as I can from this so I'll battle on alone for now :)

So I've got comparisons of the .config files from 2.6.29 and 2.6.35 (after I configured 2.6.35 to have "similar" settings to 2.6.29), and the build logs. I'll get the muxes and serial ports fixed up first which should give me something to boot, hopefully that won't take long at all.
[Gen8 Android Development] divx118:
Sorry didn't look at the nicknames before posting.

And for the family, that is a known issue. It seems only people with little free time want to join development. :)

Just for your info, if you didn't know. I am working with bubu and illifant on the gingerbread port, but then with the 2.6.29 kernel.

Maurice
[HTC Sensation] nevillejb75:
(Q)

I've just done the 2.3.4 OTA update and when I go to settings > SD/phone storage > make space, It says = unable to find an activity to handle this action.

Can anyone help ,still a bit new to all this.

THANKS
[HTC Sensation] smoochiezz24:
Just tried and mine said the exact same thing. Its either because you don't have any apps on your sd card (I don't either), there are no apps' caches that need to be cleared, or HTC just didn't implement it well. It probably wouldn't have did much for you anyway that you can't manually do. If I find out something else, I'll let ya know.
[HTC Sensation] nevillejb75:
Thanks Smoochiezz24 ,

Just to check out to see if there was nothing to clean I downloaded Android assistant and there was,so I left it ,went back to settings (sd/phone storage) and same thing.I do have apps on phone and card so i have no clue.

I appreciate you letting me know if you have any joy and the same goes here.

Nice one.
[HTC Sensation] nevillejb75:
All sorted,my brother just came round who's good with all this biz.

= back up pro (from market) backed everything and rebooted phone,60sec later got notification saying update available for 'makespace app' and all sorted,thanks
[HTC Sensation] smoochiezz24:
I was just coming back to the thread to let you know that I got an update notification for the more space app. Looks like u sorted out your problem already though. Always good to have multiple options.
[HTC Sensation] mortamini:
for some one who might have yet this problem:

simply go to

settings: apps: all

and enable "low storage wizard"

you might have made it disable it before
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Honsta:
Guys, I'm sure a lot of you already know this, but I just checked my calendar... It's 31 August... and according to this OFFICIAL AT&T tweet:

twitter.c

om/#!/ATT/status/101385757410861056

(remove the spaces, I can't post links.)

Gingerbread would be delivered to us in August. Theres still 3 hours left in August for us in Pacific Time, but I highly doubt they will push it out then. I hate liars.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maruf010:
Welcome to AT&T crapwork! I don't remember seeing they said the update will be in August 2011, I think they said the update will be coming sometimes end of the month in August (who knows what year). You should try those i900 roms or mikymike's Rom, it is 1000 times better than AT&T stock GB (if AT&T decide to give one) and I'm sure you'll no be disappointed.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MikeyMike01:
This is why people spent $700 on the SGS II from the UK.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Optimus-Prime:
and your going to die by not having gingerbread?

you have it already just flash it.

its AT&T, you remember the backflip? that phone was promised 2.1 1 month after it released, didnt get it till like late august i believe.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Bjray:
Well... we are still missing HDMI support until official dump :(
[Samsung Infuse 4G] docodine:
Oh no! You mean we have to choose between gingerbread and hdmi out!?!? I knew i should have gone with the iphone!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
Because the iphone obviously has both

: /
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kcab87:
You're asking too much people. Can't have gingerbread and hdmi out? Tough luck, get over it. Flash a custom rom and quit your *****ing, it isn't helping anyone and is annoying.

Otherwise, you aren't cut out for android. Do us people who are grateful a favor and get an iPhone.

[MOD EDIT]cleaned your post a bit[/MOD EDIT]

Thanks mod, sorry bout that.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Gary02468:
You chose to pretend that an isolated offhand tweet by a low-level employee in response to a random question was AT&T's chosen method to make an official announcement of a binding prediction. Then you pretend to be outraged when you discover otherwise.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] docodine:
Just poking fun at the ridiculous reactions to this stuff.

And to be fair, the iPhone 4 never had problems with having the latest OS and it does do HDMI out with an adapter..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] iOSlulz:
which one?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Brau0303:
My 2 Cents

People,

We have awesome phones, If you need HDMI out your current option is using the Froyo builds (I don't know if any outside the factory builds have this because I have not looked at them), The GB update will be out when it's out or leaked. Until then we have great roms available thanks to our dedicated & tallented devs. Thank You Devs! Stepping off soap box now :)

Cheers

BR
[Samsung Infuse 4G] sweetboy02125:
Just question. You guys really care/use HDMI out to TV with the phone?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] samsungcaptivates:
Att Responds

Jacob Alston - 10:57 AM - Public

Heres is ATT's reply to me asking about the update

AT&T Hey Jacob - here's the deal: in July we announced the release of Android 2.3 OS upgrade. The Samsung Infuse 4G upgrade will occur in the future, and once the software has been released we will share information immediately. A tweet earlier about an August timeline was inaccurate, mistaking the Infuse for the Inspire which has already been upgraded and causing the confusion.

But not to worry, the individual responsible for the mistake has been pelted with gingerbread. For more information: [http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20407&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32234&mapcode=mobile-devices]
[Samsung Infuse 4G] BadFishCM:
Yeah, the only official announcement I saw from at& t about the infuse and GB said "in the coming months, but definitely before years end" That announcement came from the horses mouth anyway. I'm not going to listen to tweets. I've been running gingerbread for almost a month anyway. (thanks gtg) with no data issues either, I must be lucky. If you're really concerned about HDMI out run infused 1.6, amazing rom, far superior to anything at& t will ever put out. If you're not going to load up a custom rom then be patient its definitely on its way.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rohit3192:
Wht AT&T Gingerbread

It is not just about HDMI.

With AT&T official GB we can expect:

New radio and Ril which in turn provide stable connection.

Better camera

Of course HDMI

Some other tweaks.

and a good base for custom roms(not Pepsi in Coke bottle)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] hegemytouch:
I was pissed that the update didnt come out yet but then once i flashed mikeys rom my gingerbread dreams were fullfilled...now my phone is awesome...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jasonk1229:
I would guess that it's coming out in sept at some point. I am presuming this because I'm sure they want the new galaxy to do maximum sales while this with gb could have customers changing their minds. Att probably gets alot more money per unit so I'm sure it will be their new flagship.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
If the rumors about the nrw htc Holiday and The Atrix 2 are true it won't be their flagship.... At least not for long. all of the high end devices slayed for q4 are lte and there a some that have strong beliefs that the Holiday will be here by Halloween
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Rogue_Breaker:
I will be buying the Atrix II soooo hard if it out-does the specs of the old one by a reasonable amount.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MartyLK:
I turned my Infuse in for refund because the update didn't hit like it was suppose to. Too bad for AT&T. They lose money on the lack of updating.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Eddie Bombay:
Oh no what can we do about it?

Nothing but wait.

kk

Had to wait a long ass time also for my Atrix to finally get that update but eventually they finally did come around...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Focustom:
Really man? Why did you return it? I mean I know it's a bit disappointing but the device is for sure a solid one. I love my Infuse. I'm not trying to start anything haha just curious why Gingerbread is a million times better than Foyo. I'm an android newb so that's why.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] DevilDogAK:
I went online to chat with AT&T tech support today. I asked if they could provide me with a date the gingerbread ota will roll out? They told me to contact Samsung support:-\
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Rogue_Breaker:
Just go on and ask another tech. I'm a tech for hosting.com, and I know from experience that different techs will give you different answers depending on their level of knowledge. Also, being pushy works.