yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Droid 3] btonetbone:
I can't blame the OP for posting the files. Everybody has been dying to see what is being worked on. I also can't blame anyone for wanting to get the latest update for their phone, even if it isn't out of the testing phases yet.

I also can't blame either Mot/Verizon for asking the OP to remove the files. They weren't his to release, and NOBODY here is aware of whether they may actually harm the phone in the long run.

This is all speculation, but I hope everyone who considered updating their phone with these files are all considered the following ways this could ultimately diminish or ruin your Droid 3.

- This may be a beta or release candidate, but what if it is not the final one? If the next beta/RC does not get leaked, and the soakers all need the second beta/RC to get the final update, you are stuck with potentially flawed software.

- What if there was a serious flaw in this that has yet to be found?

- Lastly (and this is what stopped me from jumping the gun), what if Moto/Verizon had a time bomb in this, designed to prevent it from functioning after X days? I remember running into a few WinMo 6.5 nightly builds which had that...It hasn't happened yet, but who knows?

I recommend everyone think about your actions before excitedly installing the latest leak on your phone when there is no SBF or community fix for a brick.

Good luck all, and I hope I am dead wrong.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Yeah I paid $660 total and im not exactly the type of person who can throw money around. You're just looking at the (minor) negatives and competely blocking out the actual effort it took to make (and perfect to a point) many parts of this phone and key features this phone has. You think they just threw the keyboard for example?

Point is this is a great phone and a lot of work went into it. These days people can ***** about just any problem they find, no matter how small or insignificant. Then blow up that problem 100x bigger so it seems like some kind of major dramatic thing.

Every phone has "flaws" (if you want to even call them that) but really.. the airplane mode bug is "unacceptable"? Again, I paid full retail price for the phone, and that bug is 1) nothing to run home and cry about, and 2) easily fixed and practically non-existant considering the frequency at which it occurs.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
I know you're trying to help but this has got to be the most paranoid post ive ever read here on xda. A time bomb on a soak test they ASKED people to volunteer for? Really?
[Motorola Droid 3] btonetbone:
If you don't think it's a possibility, that's fine. But I see Moto as getting very paranoid themselves. They are now watermarking the sbf files devs use, so they can fire whoever leaks it. They also had multiple security points that had to be breached to get this file. If you don't think they take their own security seriously, you are welcome to flash anything you'd like. We should all acknowledge it IS a possibility, and it DOES have precedent with Microsoft and Windows Mobile.

EDIT - Oh, and Apple does it, too.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/09/01/ios-5-beta-7-expires-october-20/

So, you are welcome to believe whatever you want. As I said, I hope I'm wrong, but there is enough of a precedent for this to be considered a somewhat common practice, and I can't risk bricking my phone to jump the gun by a few days/weeks.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
Maybe for you its acceptable. And you sure ain't the only one who paid good money for this phone. Maybe you're okay with a blue tinted camera picture. But this is my phone. And we both know its not just a few of us *****ing about it. So if I choose to accept a leaked update on MY phone that fixes things I feel is unacceptable, I will do so. You can choose to accept the crap they feed you.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Lol wait what...? I didn't write my last post in order to dissuade anyone from updating. I ran the OTA last night lol (and advise/recommend anyone else to do so as well).

Was simply responding to your comment about how moto/verizon sucks and bla bla bla (some other stuff)
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
Apple is a terrible example. There OS is closed and so they do a lot of crap other companies never do. That's actually one of the big reason many of us turned to android in the first place.
[Motorola Droid 3] spacecasespiff:
Im glad that someone gave us a leaked update and I say thank you. My phone is what it should have been or at least they should of fixed it within a few weeks of its release. I don't care if the change the update I have eveything I need.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
If you found these problems so insignificant why would you take the leak now and not wait for the official to drop. You did it for the same reason we all did, because it fixed issues you had with the phone.

At any rate, I'm finally happy with my phone now that the update fixed most of my problem. Looks like you are too, so there's nothing really to argue about. Enjoy your phone dude.
[Motorola Droid 3] btonetbone:
If you think citing 2 out of the 3 major mobile OS manufacturers using a method commonly practiced throughout software development are "terrible examples", then I highly recommend nobody listen to you for advice.

Time bombs are used in betas and release candidates across all fields of software development by nearly every major company. It is a fact, and there is the possibility that this leak or a future leak may have one, too.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Still sensing some hostility lol .. the battery issue was definitely not insignificant and hey if there's a solution to some minor bugs, why not take it. My point was just that people can find even the most minuscule thing wrong (about anything really) and extrapolate it 100x. The update seemingly made my battery a beast now so yeah its awesome.

Anyone who hasn't updated yet should do it. I doubt the next/final build (if this wasn't it) will be available to only those who didn't take the leaked OTA.. that'd be ridiculous imo lol.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
Nobody is asking anybody to take my advice. What I said was that it would be pretty crappy of moto to ask for volunteers for a soak test and NOT tell them that there is a ticking time bomb with that update. Even Microsoft notified me that the beta office software I tested for them last year would expire after a certain amount of time. Why? Because I was doing them a favor. Just like soak testers are doing moto a favor. But like I said, your phone, you do what you want. My phone, I'll do what I want.
[Motorola Droid 3] btonetbone:
So you are an official soak tester then? You got the agreement from Moto and Verizon, and are aware of all the terms and regulations? I'm guessing not, and that you are just talking out your ass.
[Motorola Droid 3] somemadcaaant:
@ Dmw017

@ royolpunk

Apologies, didn't mean to be so cryptic when posting this very early morning before work on a Sunday lol.

Yeah bit shocked to be honest as to why any kind of modding on here would be frowned upon by any person/company or group as this was found and taken from an update server?! Leak or not we have the source so some1 with the right mind a skill set could make the same modifications and mods as whats in this pre-update.

Makes zero sense to me having to take anything down and apologies no matter which angle i look at this.

-smc
[Motorola Droid 3] somemadcaaant:
Guys lets calm down and keep this civil please 8)

-smc
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
This from someone who has been so helpful, he's been thanked all of once in 265 post. You really don't know when to quit, huh?
[Motorola Droid 3] btonetbone:
Wow. If you had any sense at all, you could have easily found out a bulk of my posts came from when I was building ROMs for Windows Mobile phones before this forum had a thanks button. And it's great to see that a significant portion of your posts have come from posting in areas that you are woefully ignorant. Now let's get this back on topic:

These files are interesting, but unknown. We do not know how they will ultimately effect our phones, regardless of how they may be reacting now.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
But really, once? Even through the past year when there has been a thanks button? Once? I've been thanked 18 times in 20 posts, half of which as you so clearly pointed out have been wasted arguing with the likes of you. So, instead of any more of this, I think, I'll spend the rest of the night playing with my software updated D3. You can keep arguing if you want. It's a free country, ya know.
[Motorola Droid 3] btonetbone:
Glad to see you spend your Saturday night doing nothing other than playing with your phone and counting your own "thanks" meter. Clearly, you live a great life and give a lot of informed feedback to society in general.

By the way, any luck producing the terms and agreement of the soak test you claimed to know so much about a few pages back? THAT would be the first useful thing you may ever produce.
[Motorola Droid 3] Willis111:
This thread turning into a flame war?
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
If you two don't stop arguing... im gonna tell on you
[Motorola Droid 3] Willis111:
All the update files I've pulled via google fail at the signature verification, maybe someone has tampered with the files. ATM it looks like I'm pretty bricked unless I can a./ get fastboot working ( my phone bootloops so adb/fastboot ... doesn't work. Or b./ get a working file that I can flash via recovery. I would very much appreciate a pm to the update linked previously in this thread so I can fix my phone. I can't see anyways short of returning my phone which I will probably be doing monday if I can figure this out. TIA

Willis
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
Check you pm.
[Motorola Droid 3] jthompson0019:
Can I get a pm with the file with a good signature. I deleted all the ones I down loaded due to bad signature.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
Check your pm.
[Motorola Droid 3] limaxray:
Just to be clear, there is a very good possibility that using this update could forever prevent you from using any other update.

As it is, unless this update is identical to the next official update, any future official updates will fail. I can tell you this with near 100% certainty.

Maybe this will turn out to be the official OTA. Maybe we'll get another update that will bring us up to the official version. Maybe there will be an sbf that can bring us back to stock. Maybe we'll be able to hot replace all the checksumed files manually and can release a script to fix any mismatches.

And maybe we'll be totally boned. We won't know for sure until the official OTA hits.

If you don't understand these risks, or think I'm wrong, you shouldn't be using this update. While I am confident we will work around this problem, I am also comfortable with the possibility of having to replace my D3.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
Even if the official update were to somehow fail, why would you have to replace your D3? You would just be stuck on this software, which is very usable, btw.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Its all good baby baby.

When the Optimus Prime is unleashed in Oct/Nov, my D3 will inevitably end up on craigslist :]

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
I will probably be doing the same. That phone sounds like a beast. And I love ice cream sandwiches. Hopefully, I'll be able to sell the D3 for a couple hundy. Should be worth the upgrade in specs, even if it means a downgrade to my wallet. Also, its a sammy so unlocked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Lol forget sammy, its straight from google so everything right down to the panties is unlocked. And when that sexy phone comes out, ill be right there to get my fill of its delicious...... ice cream. >8}

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
You mean the HTC prime??
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
I mean the Sammy Nexus Prime from Verizon, a convicted phone rapist.

Delicious 720p screen in all its unlocked glory

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] mr4r4n:
i unfortunately just posted my d3 on craigslist:(
[Motorola Droid 3] jchenny:
I cannot initialize the camera after updated....and I have also tried different camera APPs and none works...

Does anyone have the same issue?
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Just checked and yeah mine works perfectly, I think the blue tint is still there but not too sure.

Someone else reported having the same problem as you and I think he found a fix for it. Try searching the forum.

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Ye well it doesn't have QWERTY
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Lol have you tried using the Multitouch keyboard that came with ur D3 yet? I type much faster and with greater ease on it so the loss of a keyboard won't hurt me too much. Of course I will definitely miss it while playing emulators but the 720p screen will dry my tears im sure.

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] limaxray:
Well I, for one, want to be able to run Ice Cream Sandwich when it's released. Plus, until there is an sbf, applying this update falls squarely in the list of things than can turn your phone into a paper weight if something goes wrong.
[Motorola Droid 3] limaxray:
Read my earlier posts in this thread and this thread.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Yeah I updated while rooted with all bloatware frozen and having a custom bootanimation in place. Process was as smooth as butter with zero repercussions.

Also im fairly certain you'll be able to update when/if a later OTA is released.

But hey, my D3 has a countdown ticking to the release of Optimus Prime so no worries here lol.

Unless you plan to have your phone for another +6 phones, don't sweat updating ;]

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Yeah, I applied the update and I have tremdnously well battery life. And idc if this means if im not getting future updates, the nexus prime will be my next deivce :P
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
I'll admit that I've come to use and enjoy the physical keyboard more than I thought but I had the DX for a year before the D3 and I had no problems with the multitouch keyboard due to the big screen. The Prime's screen is even bigger. That phone's going to be as future as a phone can be these days.
[Motorola Droid 3] limaxray:
That's because freezing the apps doesn't change their file names or SHA1 sums, and the boot animation isn't checked. This update changes the SHA1 sum of a few dozen system files that will undoubtedly be checked in any future update.

Unless this is the official update, the real update will fail. I'm sure we'll find a work around, but it's going to be more than just applying the update through recovery.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
I know right. My battery has gone 1 day 2hrs and 20 mins so far, at 15%, the displays only been on for 3.5 hours though but still, prior to the update I couldn't have ever lasted this long even with the phone on standby the whole time

Edit: btw wifi has been on nearly the entire time and I video streamed for about 30 mins and web browsed for an hour

Divide by zero, I dare you...
[Motorola Droid 3] slow88lx:
Without an SBF available it was a very bad idea to apply this update. Lets just leave it at that.
[Motorola Droid 3] kishin14:
But this is an official update, perhaps just not the one that will be push. What will happen to the legit soak testers that have taken this update? Are you saying that they will not be able to update to the official if it ends up being different? That makes no sense to me.
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
exactly. Since this update was pulled from moto servers to test soakers, they must have some way of updating to the official ota once its out
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xcartay:
Hi, i got my first android and i´m VERY happy with it.

Although, i still want to make two things to make it better. Eliminate bloatware and update to gingerbread.

My confusion is that, to eliminate bloat i know i must ROOT, but should i root BEFORE updating or AFTER updating?

I have another doubt, will rooting affect functions of my phone like serving as a AP (access point) or any other???

Note: i do have the SGH-T959V (T-mobile´s) BUT it is unlocked and as i live abroad i´m using it with another telco. (Will rooting or updatind affect my conectivity to my other telco?)

THANKS in advance

Xavier
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jon.01:
You need to first root in order to install a custom recovery, then the root should persist across different ROMs you flash.

I only encountered one ROM where I lost root after flashing, but I think that is rare.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xcartay:
Can ROOT be undone???

After the device has been rooted, if somethings comes out wrong, can i UNROOT it? and leave the phone as brand new???

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jon.01:
Yes, but I don't know how for the SGS4G.

For my Huawei U8100 it was as simple as reflashing the stock ROM, but for the SGS4G I don't think it is that easy. The closest thing to a stock ROM I found was a rooted stock ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jager555:
flash a stock rom with odin and use superoneclick root to unroot the phone. simple at that.
[Dell Streak 7] otnos:
This tablet has solid memory, how come it boot up so slow? Is instant on possible, or is this a limitation of android?
[Dell Streak 7] khaytsus:
No smartphone or tablet is instant on... Except, of course, when just in standby.
[Dell Streak 7] otnos:
Yes but can we at least come close to "instant"? My phone boot up faster than the ds7.
[Dell Streak 7] khaytsus:
Which phone? My DS7 boots in about 45 seconds or so, which I think is reasonably fast. And why are you turning it off so much anyway?

And of course this is going to be ROM dependent.. I'm using the stock ROM.
[Dell Streak 7] Donmotobike:
That is slow:rolleyes:
[Dell Streak 7] otnos:
I'm not turning it off, but if the tablet boot up faster we can turn it off and save battery life. My LG optimus boot up faster, in about 3 sec.. :D
[Dell Streak 7] khaytsus:
The LG Optimus 3D boots up in approximately 31 seconds <-- according to several sources in a quick google search..

My DS7, stock ROM, 195 apps.. 42 seconds from first splash screen to lock screen. First time I've bothered to time it, considering I've rebooted the thing about maybe 10 times in the 5 weeks I've had it.

Still don't see anyone completely powering down the tablet on a regular basis unless they absolutely need to save on battery. Mine uses about 1%/hr in standby..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] awesumfreek:
I Am currently running Infused v2 Custom ROM on my Samsung Infuse and was able to successfully download many gameloft games without even having the initial SD files (which I couldnt do on Stock ROM.) After downloading Shadow Guardian, however it gets stuck at the loading screen and crashes my whole phone, causing a reboot.

When trying to install Backstab as well, I am stuck with "your device is not compatible with this game" although I was able to successfully install it on the stock ROM (with a downloaded apk and SD cache). Does anybody know why this is happening? I love the Infused v2 ROM but I want my Gameloft!!!

I have Splinter Cell, Fishing Kings, Asphalt, etc. installed but the games I really want won't work!!!

Thanks
[Samsung Infuse 4G] wmercado:
I hear your pain, i have the same problem, i have Order and Chaos, and i can play it only in a froyo based rom, but for some reason gingerbread based roms are not working with these games. I have no idea why.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Entropy512:
My first guess is it's SGH-I997R (Rogers) vs SGH-I997 (AT&T), and the whole Canadian locale thing.

Unfortunately none of the devs play Gameloft games so no way to easily debug since they are paid apps without logcats of crashes.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tipharet:
Is there a port for touchwiz that works for the evo?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monkeychef:
No.

We don't have any samsung ports to the Evo.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaquaslife:
There is in the market a touchwiz launcher. Don't know if that's what your looking for. But I don't think any dev wants to port.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikz106:
i downloaded this ROM its too good.. doent lag anywhere no bugs i have come across woth till now .. but i noticed that the NEXT button in music player is not properly shown when we change skin but otherwise its okay in normal HTC skin .. i am not able to upload to thread .. :confused: so posting it here .. can anyone fix this??? :(
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
I would have just replied in the thread itself but it got closed because of the idiot trolls who thought I was crazy....

But... I wasn't crazy, was I?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1165098
[HTC EVO 3D] big gulps huh?:
You were? and you know this how? (I dont care because I am on the eng hboot and will never be off it)
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
from the simple news of what you will find here.

just read a few threads on 1.5 and the HTC unlock... seek and ye shall find.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
What were you right about? Not like it matters to me I'm on eng also lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
I think the folks that posted the facepalm pics were more right.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Guess I missed something :/ Damn the luck.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Good for you. We all needed a new pointless thread so you can brag about something over a month ago..

Thanks for cluttering the garbage disposal that has become the general forums. We need a couple more "should I get a SGS2!?" And "EVO3D vs. YOUR MOTHER" threads too.. we don't have enough of those.
[HTC EVO 3D] lufc:
The thread was closed for a reason not for you to open a new thread

Thread closed AGAIN
[Windows Phone 7 General] hardcoreplur:
I am on an LG quantum, and 98% of stuff is working great, but I am having a few issues. Completely random reboot, LG apps don't work right or at all (PlayTo tells me to update then close), some UI effects lag or bug out, battery isn't any better than NoDo expect with batterysaver. Is anyone else seeing these issues?
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
So, have you gotten the official update? I'm on RTM 7720.68 and I still haven't got the update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] edved:
Looks like we have to wait another 2 weeks...

Look here...

http://www.wpcentral.com/mango-update-release-september-15th
[Windows Phone 7 General] hardcoreplur:
I am on 7720.68, but I think there are some firmware issues with my quantum like some little bugs that weren't there with nodo (random reboot, minor UI effect issues) anyone else on mango noticed anything like this?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
guess we have to wait another 15 more days..
[Windows Phone 7 General] JimmyRespawn:
im using quantum too. no random reboot problem but got little bug on 7720.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jaythang:
13 more days

Good thing i havent flash my rom. Im using HTC Trophy. ...;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
So do we still get the official update directly from 7720.68 or do we have to revert back to nodo?
[Windows Phone 7 General] LiFePo4:
I believe you have to revert to Nodo for you carriers update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
its possible tha tu can update from 7720.68. because previously i flashed my radio from 5.65 to 5.66 using custom tools RUU

then u downgraded to nodo, but the radio was still 5.66 .then i installe dmango , zune again changed my radio to 5.65

so there u go...
[Windows Phone 7 General] stewartk:
i`ve just got a mozart from ebay and it had mango on it 7.10.7720.68 with radio 5.54

how would i update this radio if i can , and how do i find out if its unlocked or not.

would this get any updates when the official mango comes out. i`m stuck really i`m used to android os which is easy to change and mess with. but i`m licking the windows os at the mo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
One of those HTC reps yesterday let slip a "last week of September" for Mango. So we still have a good month to wait roughly :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ttblondey:
Latest News :Mango release.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/jul/27/windows-phone-mango-rtm
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobisimeonov:
I really hope ,that`s not true? October? Pfff. Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ttblondey:
hopefully not.