yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] djblu:
Thank you! Will do :-) and just to clarify: interactive, or interactiveX?

Currently running 200 to 1200, and all at -25uv. The -50 caused a lot of stalls
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
interactive...
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Yikes! Getting lil too deep for me now. But all is running smooth with what I have. PWGB. with 1006 tksgb kernel

However losing points on antutu with the Adren shot. Just lookikg to save battery life now
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Some phones cannot handle much Uv. Keep in mind that the kernel is already slightly under volted. (Read the kernel op)

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] pahick:
Could someone point me to how to remove the clock in the status bar for this? I tried one I thought worked and FC central! :)

This works great BTW, thank you!
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Anybody using a task killer with this rom? I'd like to exchange some thoughts

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
I was always told task killers are not needed with android, because of the way system is designed. Task manager does esentialy the same thing
[Fascinate Android Development] briguyy:
Not necessarily labeled as a "Task Killer" but i use Fast Reboot. I use it when i feel the phone getting a little sluggish and it also seems to help my battery life too.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Is it a low memory killer?

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] briguyy:
I believe so. it simulates a reboot by closing/restarting all core and user processes and thus frees up memory.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bawb3:
Ive been using the the built in task manager in go launcher, also use the tw one sometimes. I only use it when the phone is feeling sluggish. I think the android memory management doesnt always work that well.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Normally I would not use a task killer, but I feel that the android low memory killer does an awful job at freeing up memory on this phone, causing lock ups and delays. I've been using Autokiller Memory Optimizer with the optimum preset and the lock ups and delays are gone. Let me know if anybody has had the same experience with killers

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] djblu:
Have you tried adjusting the VM heap size down a tad? It mentioned a ways back in the thread, but it is free on the market, and allows manual adjustment of the heap size to be brought down from 64mb (which is huge, and kinda unneeded imo) down to something more reasonable like 32 up to 48. Made a huge difference for me
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Yeah I was the one that brought it up. My vm heap is at 48 right now

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] tulalhyt:
thankx for this ...

for this long time .. I think my fascinate has something wrong, since after reboot, a few hours latter my fascinate become lag, slow , but I woke up when read your message hehehehehe

I think this is not happen on all android devices, before using fascinate, i'm using incredible 1, and not facing problem like this on froyo and gb
[Fascinate Android Development] AuroEdge:
I do not experience these delays unless I use one of the custom kernels for EH09
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Added VM HEAP set at 48 . Seams to have improved alot
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
same here... the "soft" reboots I mentioned previously getting because of the overclock was actually the low memory kille lol. Set the vm heap size to 48 and have not had that problem so far.
[Fascinate Android Development] HuskerDad3:
Just downloaded the app to try it out. Just curious if you are applying the settings at boot or not?

Thx.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
I don't have the paid app so I can't.

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Setting the heap size to 32 seems to have the same effect as using the memory optimizer at a moderate setting. The only difference is that with the smaller heap size apps that use a lot of ram appear to load slower.

At any rate, either change avoids the delays from the ram issue. I wonder if I'm paying a higher price in battery life with the memory optimizer or the decreased vm heap size.

Chopper? Nitsuj ?

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] chopper the dog:
On eclair and froyo, task management apps were almost a necessity. But gingerbread does an absolute awesome job with memory management and killing un-needed processes on it's own. The main thing to know is if you have any offensive apps i.e. sucking cpu cycles after it has been backed out of. Here are a couple of ways to find the "offensive" apps.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13585273&postcount=27

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13534133&postcount=23

Back on froyo at one point miren browser would lock the cpu at a 100% while the device was sleeping. The xda app also on froyo would sit in the background drinking 20% cpu. Oh and Beautiful Widgets was also a hoss on the cpu. Just a couple of the things identified before using above steps. The xda app has since been fixed I find fancy widgets to be better and I gave up on miren. Opera FTW!!!! anyway.

Example of what I noticed on GB: Since I have adwEX set as default launcher and after boot I changed a wallpaper from launcher2 all went normal. After about 3 hours of using the device like normal I went to choose a different wallpaper but had to wait an extra second for it to re-load launcher2 for the wallpaper option. Meaning that since adw is my default launcher, gb didn't see the need to have launcher2 running so it killed it for me at some point.

As long as you know the collection of apps you're using are not "offensive" to the cpu and you use the back button or built in exit option within an app there is no need for any memory optimizers, task managers or cleaners. In fact once you clean out stuff with an optimizer it needs to spend extra cycles rebuilding what may have been cleaned out. And I'll admit coming from the winmo days and obsessing about what was running the background was hard to shake. But with gingerbread just try to ignore the urge to contradict what the os is already gonna do for you.

Now on to the heap size. One can get very confused trying to read about heap size on the interwebs. There is no magic number for any specific device. It's all based upon the device and the rom it may be running and what the user feels he needs it at. But the current rom I'm running pool party suffered from random hot boots (maybe every 48~72 hours of uptime) the heap out of the box on that rom 32m. Now with pp there is alot more java going on with the lock screens and such. But setting the heap to 64m smooths out lockscreen animations upon unlocking and I haven't had another hot boot since. And after chatting with jt about heap sizes in irc, His answer was "it's a whatever floats your boat option"... So there are gonna be pros and cons to any setting. But for my purpose I have yet to find a con having it set at 64m.

good day.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
I checked for offensive apps with OS monitor and I found no rogue apps. Cross checked with CPU spy and phone goes to sleep when it should. Interesting to see that go launcher ex was taking up 70mb in two processes, so I went back to L. P. I adjusted the vm heap back to 64 and indeed transitions are smoother. I'll run this set up for a couple of days.

At any rate, TW Gb is miles ahead of TW froyo as far as stability and overall functionality (with minor bugs). To be perfectly honest, all iterations of ed 01 and in less degree ed 05 were a nightmare. They would work right for a week and then it was hell. No wonder the Big Guys moved on to aosp

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PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] chopper the dog:
After poking through some old froyo tw roms I see that the heap seem to always be 48m. Starting to wonder if 32m and below for a vanilla aosp rom is fine. But when an oem overlay is added or extra features are added (in the case of pool party, miui, and cm7) to a rom that the 48m and above heap size might actually be helpful.

good day.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Isn't 32 the default or the recommended size in cm7 ? That ran smooth as butter on my previous inc and og Droid. No ram lock ups whatsoever

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] chopper the dog:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Those were not mtd roms (introducing a different use of the memory) though. My last comment only had the fascinate in mind, applying to TW and MTD and purely arbitrary and not fact.

good day.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Understood. Yeah these were all aosp roms. So basically it comes down to what jt said: whatever suits your needs and preferences and works better on your phone

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Grear advice from you guys as always. When I loaded the VM Heap app, the vm was at 64. I set it back to 48 and so far all is a lot smoother. I bounce around between launchers, GO LAUNCHER PRO, TW, and 2 others. My wallpaper is just a black pic I took. I do run a few widgets that maybe causing some issues now that I think about it.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
I agree, 64 does not work for me. I just went back to 48. And in my phone, the auto memory optimizer does a better job at freeing up memory than the android low memory killer.

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Do you guys think the launchers have anything to do with this subject?
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
No, I don't

PWGB,TKSGB10-05, adren shot xx, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] bschrib:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to touch base and let know that I finally isolated the issue with the touchscreen going dead periodically (along with excessive battery drain). iOnRoad (a beta app, admittedly) was the cause. Removed the app, phone went back to normal (83% battery left after a 9 hour shift today..wonderful!).
[Fascinate Android Development] jrowen76:
Been using the auto killer for only a few minutes, but I see an immediate difference.
[Fascinate Android Development] shilohdrummer:
http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=711231&d=1315267038

You are a life saver... I flashed the "stable" cynanogen 7.1 and couldn't bear an unstable MMS.

flashed back to powerwash and totally forgot that I couldn't download My Verizon from Market. This is VITAL for me cause I grandfathered the 150mb plan. I'M SAVING MONEY!
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Hmm, I'm on PWGB and have both verizon apps from market. My Verizon Home, and My Verizon Mobile. Thwy both run fine.
[Fascinate Android Development] Superguy:
Does CWM work fine with this? I remember trying it back in the day and installing CWM didn't give me a choice for a Fascinate. Thanks!
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Don't use Rom manager to flash Cwm

PWGB,TKSGB10-10, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] Superguy:
Next question - if I'm on Froyo PW, should I revert to stock and go from there, or can I just go to PWGB?
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
No because you're using odin.

PWGB,TKSGB10-10, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] shilohdrummer:
The app the market is missing is called My Verizon Mobile. It includes a cute little dandy widget that tells u how much MB you've used. I'm stuck with a 150mb data plan so I can save $15 a month so I need this widget.

The apk from the few posts earlier will give it to you :)

I wouldn't worry about downloading this apk if you have unlimited or have no problem going under 2GB
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
Odd. They must have just pulled it. I do have that app. Did you search other markets?
[Fascinate Android Development] jcurley:
With this ROM the market does not realize you are a Verizon phone so you cannot download VZW Apps. You will need the APK or a Tibu from a VZW ROM.

The NFL app has the same issue.
[Fascinate Android Development] mgrimmenator:
I have the NFL Mobile app on mime and my verizon app. works for me.

This is a problem. I just noticed that you can't dl or update these from the market. Only reason I have them is that I restore them through Titanium Backup. If not for that I would be pissed without ability to run NFL Mobile. Please, Please can you set the carrier to Verizon on this ROM.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bawb3:
Okay so, with tks 10/12, adren shot, autokiller memory optimizer, and heap size at 48. The phone is 99% lag free - the smoothest I think I've ever had it, pretty amazing.

Gps lock still sucks balls, but it always does no matter what rom I use.

Everything else is perfect.

I was thinking about trying the new cm7 stable, but I'm going to stick with this a while.
[Fascinate Android Development] galets:
LEAP not working, battery not charging

I have 2 issues with this firmware, not sure if those are fixable:

1. I cannot connect to the LEAP-based wifi in the office. I am able to do that with other android devices and firmwares

2. I have a battery purchased on ebay, so the stock kernel says "unsupported battery will not charge" or some crap like that. Anyone knows how to fix that without flashing custom kernel?

I appreciate any help here
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
1- not even by going into the advanced wireless settings and adding the network manually?

2-you need a kernel that supports the feature.

PWGB,TKSGB10-12, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] galets:
I purchased "Advanced LEAP Wifi" app to configure LEAP, and it has been working fine on every other android device, and on other firmwares of the same device. I doubt this is a config problem
[Fascinate Android Development] mgrimmenator:
Look for this over at rootzwiki, EH09 voodoo imoseyon v1.4 kernel. It is awesome on battery life and performance. Luv it.
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Try a different kernel. I know you were trying to avoid that, but it might be your only solution
[Fascinate Android Development] galets:
so far tried this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1279153

and this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1142378

in both, LEAP is not working. Which leads me to believe this might be not an issue with kernel
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Try a froyo Rom. Just set up your WiFi, don't go through the whole phone setup. We're trying to figure out if it's a phone or Rom issue

PWGB,TKSGB10-12, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] djblu:
VZW Hot Spot AP Tracking

This was asked in the TKSB kernel thread as well, but I also wanted to try here as well. Reason I bring it up is because today I ran into the problem with trying to use the AP software that comes default with the PWGB Rom. Everything connected but all redirected to VZW hot spot subscription page.

Is their ability to track that embedded in the ROM, or in the Kernel (using TKSB 10-12)? and if it's in the kernel, can we ditch that? If it's something else all together, would someone be interested in coaching me on how to locate, identify, and rectify that situation, and return that resolution to the devs here in for future use?

Thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] brettdacosta:
I'm about over CM7. I'd really like the tethering back (and especially the puzzle unlock).

Does tethering work with this rom, and what would I need to do to move from CM7 with the glitch kernel to PWGB (and then I can flash the compatible voodoo kernel after that)?

Since it uses odin, can I just odin it and not have to odin an official old build first?

Lastly - what clockwork works is this supposed to be used with? Thanks.
[Fascinate Android Development] galets:
Froyo rom worked (community rom 1.3)
[Fascinate Android Development] thedoman:
Re: tethering: don't know

Odin PWGB with atlas pit file and make sure you have repartition checked. Put atlas pit (included with rom files when you unzip last I checked) In the pit box of Odin and the rom files in the pda box. I am assuming you know how to get into download mode and how to use Odin. If you don't use pit and repartition coming from mtd based rom you will have trouble. Everything else you need including recovery is in the PWGB EH09 OP.

Voodoo kernels are in the development section except Imoysen's on rootwiki.
[Fascinate Android Development] galets:
I tried tethering, and it didn't work
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
If you must have Gb then give mtd roms a try. Make sure you follow the correct installation procedure

PWGB,TKSGB10-12, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] icemanwbs:
For teathering I use Open Garden WIFI. works without a hitch for me
[Fascinate Android Development] galets:
I'll probably return back to froyo. The only reason I went this rom is because my 3g was super flakey and i thought newer firmware/radio will fix it. But it's still flakey, so I suspect I have a hardware issue on device
[Fascinate Android Development] mgrimmenator:
try this one instead

http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?6768-kernel-gb-tw-eh09-voodoo-leanKernel-minimalistic-kernel-(v1.4.0-10-9-11)
[Fascinate Android Development] Hypnosis4U2NV:
Love this ROM and also hate it..

Played with it using stock kernel included, then with TKSGB 10/12, and finally adrenaline shot xix..

The lag is unbearable no matter what combo of the above I try..

Voodoo is turned on and I'm using stock voltages and clock speeds..

I really don't know why this is lagging this badly..
[Fascinate Android Development] mzrdisi:
Try GeeWiz
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
Wifi Tether works without a hitch. Infrastructure mode, too.
[Fascinate Android Development] nhokynhok:
I think it was posted a few pages back but download AutoKiller Memory Optimizer from the market (free) and use the Optimum preset. Has taken care of 95% of the lag issues for me. Using this ROM with TKSGB 10.12 kernel, S.A.S. and have been running smoothly for about 3 days now
[Fascinate Android Development] AtropineNa:
err deleting sorry
[Fascinate Android Development] Bawb3:
Yeah like the guy above me said, try the autokiller app. Also download the heap size app and adjust that (32-48) speed up the phone a bit.

Also make sure your scheduler is on deadline, and ondemandx.

undervolting doesnt just save battery, it also can improve performance. Uv every step -50, overclock up to 1200mhz, and disable 100mhz step.

I was having similar issues until I did all that. I know it's a lot of tweaking, but it's well worth it to have a tw rom that performs almost like an mtd rom. Not to mention battery life has been amazing.
[Fascinate Android Development] shilohdrummer:
I know I may get a lot of bad rap about this, but for me, i get the LEAST amount of lag with the STOCK powerwashed GB. Seems like every little "patch" i put on (voodoo) makes it a little bit slower... I don't know, that's just how I felt. I went back to stock.

Any for the guy who said he's going back to froyo cause of bad 3g, bad move.

This rom doesn't have bad anything! it's even better than cm 7.1 (hopefully jt doesn't read this forum)
[Fascinate Android Development] Hypnosis4U2NV:
Thanks, using the autokiller app and the heap app appears to have a noticible improvement on the speed of the phone..

Sent via the GB delivery truck..
[Fascinate Android Development] Hypnosis4U2NV:
As much flashing as I have done with the phone for the past year, I never really understood the voltage stuff.. Can you point me somewhere so I can understand and apply the specific settings?

Flashed from my Evil Fascination with VooDoo..
[Fascinate Android Development] jcurley:
Anyone getting a reboot while taking a phone call with battery under 10%?

I am trying to determine if this is a Kernel issue or ROM issue.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Yup, but not since disabling lagfix on the tks kernal strangely enough.

---------- Post added at 10:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

Check out the tks kernal thread. Comradesven has a writeup on it in the original post.
[Fascinate Android Development] mgrimmenator:
switch you kernel to the one i posted above your post. you will have no lag.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hypnosis4U2NV:
I tried imoseyon's kernel also, lag was reduced somewhat but still there..

Sent by the GB delivery truck..
[Fascinate Android Development] Hypnosis4U2NV:
I will, thanks for the link..

Sent by the GB delivery truck..
[Fascinate Android Development] jcurley:
Try the Autokiller Memory Optimizer in the app store. Follow up Lauraenops setup in the TKS thread.

He did all the work and since running it, my Fassy has not slowed down, not even a little bit. It is AWESOME!

This is how I have always wanted my phone to run. Night and day.
[Fascinate Android Development] AtropineNa:
Which settings are you on? 15360,10240,12800 from Autokiller?
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
It would be the optimum settings in the presets.

PWGB,TKSGB10-14, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bawb3:
Yeah, press the menu key and press "presets". Im using the aggressive preset myself. It hasn't hurt my bettery life, it's gone 1day 1hour so far and I'm still at 59%.
[Fascinate Android Development] baron4406:
Cannot get the computer to recognize my phone after being on this ROM for a few weeks. 4 different computers, 3 different cables, plug it in and nothing happens. all settings are right.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
power off, pull battery and try cleaning the usb port with a q-tip and some denatured alcohol or contact cleaner. Maybe just using compressed air will work too. Anyways sounds like a connection issue.

Question...Does anybody no how to remove the boot animation sound? I flashed a different boot animation, but still have the silly sound in the back ground lol.
[Fascinate Android Development] AtropineNa:
Try modifying the poweron. Wav file in system = etc
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Actually I ended up having to modify the 0406_PowerOn.mp3 file, but I give you kudos for pointing me in the right direction...Thanks!:)
[Fascinate Android Development] mgrimmenator:
any word on making this rom set to verizon carrier so market works correctly for verizon apps?
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
I think there will be in the ei20 tsm ressurection rom when it drops. I doubt it for this rom...it seems ccampos left the community.
[Fascinate Android Development] AtropineNa:
glad you got it, sorry I was typing that on my phone and was too lazy to scroll back and figure out the whole name

For those who want to remove their startup sounds:

-Navigate to /system/etc

-Modify/Rename/Remove "0406_PowerOn.mp3"
[Fascinate Android Development] shilohdrummer:
Or you can just install the Verizon app apks right now... Look at my posts from earlier to find the download link for My verizon
[Fascinate Android Development] baron4406:
Didn't work. Also noticed usb debugging keeps turning itself off after a reboot. Turning back on does nothing tho.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hypnosis4U2NV:
Well after running the Autokiller, the HEAP app and Voltage control app, the phone appears to be running better with no noticeable lag.

I used -50 UV for steps 200-1200mhz and -25 for 1300mhz, disabled 100mhz and everything over 1300mhz.. So far, no improvement to battery life, it actually appears to be draining faster.

I thank you all for the help..

Sent by way of the GB delivery truck..