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[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Alcibiade:
So as far as I could read, The Verizon Tab will have the IR port, but doesn't have the top speakers for phone calls. The unlocked international version do have the speakers but not the IR... And we can bet the LTE devices will be on a Qualcomm processor while the others may very well be on Exynos. And this is just the beginning. More countries, more telco operators, more versions to come...

WHAT THE HELL Samsung !!!! As much as I like your devices and rather dislike Apple's ones, can't you just learn (Copy ? Yeah something you sometimes do well) Apple's branding strategy and make ONE single design. Why bow to the telecom operators and destroy your brand value? Honestly... ONE Tab 7.7 (Possibly two if you are unable to have a sngle GSM+CDMA device)

There should be ONE Tab 7.7 proposed to telecom operators. Take it or leave it. That's what Apple did successfully with the iPad and the iPhone

But no... Sammy just was not able to do it. No balls ? No vision? Disappointing

I will still get a Tab 7.7 (Don't know which one though) but unfortunately Samsung still has some way to go...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] scottath:
Got my 7.7 16gb wifi yesterday from work. Work got 2 in - 1 is on display, other is in my hands.....

Its quite fast - only lags on rare occasions, screen is awesome, the touch is a little laggy (playing table ice hockey game) only in rare occasions.

Lags awaking from sleep too at times - takes anywhere up to 1.5sec to get the lock screen up (not a consistent time)

What apps are you running on yours guys - anything interesting that may not have been found by myself ?

And any mods / tweaks people have yet?

Been looking around online and it seems almost no-one has them yet

now to wait for a ICS rom for it.....

edit - i fully charged it last night - been playing with it most of the day on and off, been on battery for 9:42min and still have 46% left of the battery.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
So, to anyone with a 3G version (Hong-Kong), what's the reference of your tab written on your box?

GT-P6800LSA XEU? OZS?

XEU is the "UK - international" version whereas OZS is the localized Hong-Kong version...

NB: if nothing is written on the box, typing *#1234# in the dialler should reveal it :o
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] kazuni:
For my Hong Kong Tab 7.7 here's the reference:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
Thanks for the reply, it's a ZS kernel so it seems it's indeed a Hong-Kong device, makes sense ;)

Do you know if French language is available?

And is there a european plug provided? I've heard of UK and HK plug but nothing about Euro plug...

Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
You should probably have a read through one of my other posts here. ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] scottath:
I just have to mention something else - the speakers on the 7.7 are amazing for their size - i do audio engineering as a hobby and have some higher quality headphones and speakers and i was still blown away by the quality of the 2 tiny little openings.......its awesome.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] NZtechfreak:
Just got my Tab 7.7

First impressions are incredibly favourable.

It feels absolutely incredible in the hand with how slim it is, and the build materials are stellar - a refreshing change from Samsung's usual gear (every now and again they show that they really can make extremely classy looking and feeling devices, only wish they did that more often!). The screen is amazing, but I only realised how good it is when I had it next to my Transformer Prime - I thought the Prime's screen was stellar (best on a tablet yet I thought) but the 7.7 makes it look thoroughly average.

It's HC 3.2 with TW, and runs pretty well with just the occasional tiny micro-hitch here and there (the Prime's Tegra 3 is the only device I've had so far that could drive HC well enough to call 'buttery'). I noted with interest that there is no lag typing in the browser with a software keyboard, must be something Samsung have done to it because even the Prime had attrocious lag in HC in browser typing...

Need to get some stupid proprietary connectors tomorrow and can then do usual connectivity test and video...

Questions?

Oh, and 64GB micro SDXC cards work in this (as expected):

http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Alcibiade:
My point was slightly different, mostly about hardware and brand recognition through a unique standardized product (Like Apple does so well)

I got screwed the same way as you did over my unlimited plan and had endless arguments with AT&T. That said 4Gb was more than enough for me and I gave up on my unlimited plan (sadly)

The AT&T Tab was still quite cheaper than the international unlocked version so I don't really regret it (But definitely AT&T pissed me off seriously and what they did is very close to the border of what the law allows)

Coming back to he main topic, the Tab 7.7. If I buy the international unlocked version I will have the top speakers but will miss the IR transmitter. So I will wait a bit to see if ever by chance AT&T comes with both (Although as someone said it is quite unlikely...). And also wait a bit if ever by chance, in one country, we happen to get a GSM version with all the goodies :)

And then again there will be the question of whether the AT&T one will have LTE (tempting...) and also the need to compare the performance of Qualcomm vs Exynos processors

All in all I will not rush and wait fr a bit better vision of what is the offer to pick what suits my needs best
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] kazuni:
Oui, Il a la langue francaise

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They are, quite surprised how crisp clear !

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damn i just got a 32GB Lexar Class 10, shoulda checked SDXCs...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
Thanks, or should I say "Merci beaucoup" :)

What about euro plug? Missing in action I presume? :o
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Good points. Personally, I've always been a fan of the "Get what you want, when you want it, and enjoy it while you have it" philosophy. Honestly the IR blaster isn't as big a selling point for me than the phone calling functionality. LTE might be cool, but being on a tiered plan makes it kinda pointless to me, so being on unlimited HSPA+ is more than adequate. Not to mention, with LTE being in its infancy states yet, I'd hate to be locked into a single carrier simply because the device ONLY support's their bands. I think I'll hold out on LTE until some truly capable LTE world phones/tablets come out, which support multiple frequencies in multiple countries on multiple carriers.

I'll still avoid carrier branded devices like the plague for all the reasons mentioned in my article though.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
I just got mine in. It has the IR port and smart remote app but I have no idea which region it was meant for as I think this is an early model. I'm having weird wifi issues with it, though. Anyone having access points suddenly go from good to poor signal after putting in the credentials to connect? So far, the only way to keep it on wifi is to reboot after I've authenticated to a WAP. Really annoying. It works fine on GSM (tried both an AT&T LTE and T-Mobile 4G GSM SIM), though. Very nice aside from the wifi issue.

Can anyone identify the region based on the build?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] cannow:
Hi All any one heard of panamoz advertiseing delivery to the uk of the 3g 7.7 unit hong kong export I believe for £431 + 9.99 delivery sounds to cheap .Are they genuine ? Whens the official uk date ie Amazon Looking forward to laying my hands on one of these and selling on my beloved Tab 7:rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Justin^Tan:
So can you verify the IR works?, and how bout the speaker some people had? Did you had it too? For receiving phone call of course. I'm getting excited here :-D baseband xx usually comes on europe, can you tell us where did you get yours? Anybody got a release from singapore or taiwan that has just been launched as well?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Dragonn90:
Your tablet is a test version, KI7 = september, it's the first version so.

I know someone (with the same rom) (in France) with a 3g/wifi tablet and IR, but no warranty and bill because it's a pre-release.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] will6316:
I live in NYC where did u get it and how much
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Wizard8125:
where did you order yours from please?... grrrh!!!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
I suppose that mine is also a test version. It has a mark xxkj2. Is it? What will happen to those devices when update comes? FYI I have a working IR, it is a 3G+WiFi model that can be used as regular phone with top speakers, and it has 16gb of inetrnal memory.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
XXKJ2 eh? That would mean non-region specific firmware from October 2011, 2nd revision. Looks like you got some pre-production firmware there! Then again, KI7 is from September, so yeah...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
So will those devices be getting iCS when it comes out, or will I have to manualy instal custom rom? What does preproduction device means anyway?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
I got it from a guy who knew a guy at Samsung so I'm assuming this is also a pre-release. Yes, I can make calls from it and the IR port works great. ****ty WiFi thing though. Maybe I can get an updated kernel for it.

Well, now the WiFi seems to be behaving normally. Hmm. Dunno what was up with that.

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I'm thinking that there might be update problems just like the early Google I/O Galaxy 10.1s. Probably will have to install a ROM yourself once the updates hit. No doubt there will be ROMs based on stock if you don't want to stray to far.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ppatel300:
Will6316,

Place is alled 4gAT, they are selling on Ebay, but you can go and pick up directly from their store at the corner of Bowery and Hester in China town. I paid the buy it now price listed on ebay, but i did not buy it from ebay, went to their store and paid them there. They have like 4-6 left.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
That is what I was afraid of! Guess I will have to learn how to install a ROM! Hope it won't be too confusing!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Nah, no worries. Just wait until the ROMs based on the new ICS have been out for a week or so and read the threads to see if anyone is having issues. Then read and reread the instructions and don't be afraid to ask questions.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] shinji21:
I wanna get one of these test units, dont really care about warranty. Anyone knows where to grab one?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] donguidou:
I just receive my tab from Negri Electronics.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Negri won't be selling the pre-release versions that have all the options. Not sure what to tell anyone that wants one other than to keep scouring eBay and be ready to pay a little more.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] shinji21:
Thanks, but i was talking about the test unit floating around that has the IR port.

How do u like it so far?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Wizard8125:
You bought a test unit with IR from Negri?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] donguidou:
Sorry for the misunderstanding, my 3G unit from Negri doesn't have IR and it's not a test unit.

So far I like it. The screen is impressive.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] paulikxp:
It's finally here!

Mine has arrived from panamoz.com in London today after only 3 days.

After some months with the old 7" Tab I have to get used to HC and install all my beloved apps I've used on the old one.

The 7.7 doesn't feel much lighter than the old one (and is indeed only app. 10% lighter). The screen is very bright even in the lowest setting. Ambient light sensor doesn't work properly but I know that from the old one, a reboot (none so far) should help.

I like Touchwiz UX with its mini apps and the great clipboard function.

I don't think I'm going to root it anytime soon so I can consume videos from the market.

Here are some pictures, also in comparison to the old 7":
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] got556:
Thank you for those comparison pics. Really puts things into perspective for me. Man oh man I just can't decide what my next tab is going to be. SOOOOOO many options.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] shawon007:
Can I ask where you got your case from? I am scheduled to receive my tab on Friday hope I can get a case ordered for it for same day too.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] paulikxp:
It's from M4store:

http://www.m4store.co.uk/efc-1e3nb.html
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Thanks for the photo set. I take it that charging dock can't take the Tab when the case is on? Samsung drops the ball on that aspect with both their phones and tablets.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] spridell:
How do u like the case? I have the same case on order. Does it keep the slimness of the device? Does the cover stay shut or just closes and nothing holding it down?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] micger21:
Voici concernant la version de ma tablette...version du micro logiciel datant du 8 novembre....

Tout semble fonctionner à merveille...après quelques optimisations , je n'ai pas à me plaindre de quoi que ce soit....hormis la non gestion du format NTFS....affaire à suivre

J'ai pu rooter la tablette suivant ce topic...amusez vous bien avec votre tablette, je m'amuse comme un fou, c'est une pure merveille....tablette proche de la perfection!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1367249

Ainsi que le forum ou je parle de la tablette

http://www.archoslounge.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23005&page=3
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Alcibiade:
English please ?

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Thanks a lot for the pics. Mmmh now wondering whether it will fit my jeans back pocket :( The Tab 7 fits but is already quite large. I really cant wait to try it before buying it...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
And with too much fooling arround I stuck my device into bootloop! I clicked (by mistake) something regardnig dalvik being removed from the rom in Titanium backup and since then it is in bootloop! Factory reset via recovery did not help!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] rmm200:
The first bricked 7.7!

If it is like other Android devices, it may take 9 resets before it does a full factory restore. Can't hurt to try that.

Good luck on getting it back!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
I am so angry at myself right now! I made a fool of myself but curiosity was too big! Anyone have any idea, comment or words of wisdom about what are my options right now! It has rebooted more than 9 times already and I don't even know how to shut it down competly so it stops doing that!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] techoin:
got my 7.7 wifi version from negri electronics..absolutely beautiful screen...running without any lag...

one thing I noticed is touchwiz still does not allow customizing mini apps panel apps.boo
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] rmm200:
Check the XDA General forum on the Nook Tablet. That device has more threads on bricked device recovery than any other I have seen. Things like what to hold down while powering on.

I am also expecting the 7.7 has the ability to reimage from an SD card. Now you only need access to an appropriate image...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] shinji21:
I remember watching a video with a guy a HK demonstrating how to add or delete items in the mini app drawer. The guy specifically mentioned that this could be done in the 7.7 but not the 7.0 plus. I will post the link if I find it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] morkli:
See if you can get in stock recovery. Power button plus volume down (I think, if not try volume up instead). Once the white Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 writing appears on the screen, let go of the power button, but keep the the volume button pressed. Once in recovery, wipe cache and wipe data/factory reset. Then reboot your tab. Might bring it out of its bricked state.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Mine has an "Edit" button that lets you add or remove from their predefined selection. You can't add any of your own apps in, unfortunately.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] morkli:
I can confirm that I can do this on my 7.7 P6800. When I bring up the mini apps (using ^ on the task bar), there is an "Edit" button in the bottom right hand corner. You can only add or delete from a select list of mini apps. I've added them all, and the mini apps can be scrolled left and right to select.

PS: You can also add and remove home pages.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] techoin:
strange..edit button does not show up on mine..its P6810
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] xavierdylan:
I dont know what you have tried so far. But have you tried keeping the power button pressed till the tab switches off?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
Hi,

I've ordered my 3G tab 36 hours ago from Negri Electronics (Las Vegas, US) and within these 36 hours it has been shipped (via FedEx) and delivered here in Brussels, Belgium :o

I must say I'm impressed with both Negri and FedEx :)

Now I have to wait till the end of the day before having a play with it, since I'm at work and my tab is at home :D
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] parker22:
did you choose International Economy or Priority delivering method from FedEx?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
Hi, I chose Priority (price difference was only $4). I also used a coupon code (the word "GIFT") which gives a $30 discount :)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Dragonn90:
Hi, it's a hong kong version?

I'm waiting a europe/US release, for the warranty, because sending a tab as expansive in asia from france is not the best ^^
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
Hi, yes it's a Hong-Kong version. As far as I know there are no other 3G tabs on the market right now...

I was going to wait for European release but it's been pushed back for months so...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Dragonn90:
560 euros is a good price but with taxes and "frais de douane" if i'm unlucky :( it's 680 euros. And no european warranty.. but i need it !! :p

(Sorry for my bad english)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] turt:
Yeah, in my case it's a bit different because I don't have to pay VAT (business), so the final price stays around 550€. Same price as imported Wifi models from Expansys ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ezynow:
Hey Guys - looking for some advice

Have a 7.7 3g on order but seem to be changing my mind already:

1) How does this compare with original 7" tab ? Is it a "vast" improvement / "substantial" improvement or is it more of a nice improvement ? What are the standout features for you?

2) My main reasons to buy is better media playback - can any one of you lucky owners check out one of these clips from this site:

http://www.h264info.com/clips.html

especially 1080p I am lengend trailer (bluray profile - prob. means high profile). This clip is unplayable on original tab / or tegra 2 devices.

3) Quad core vs Dual Core - it seems that quadcore is now going to be standard in 3-6 months , prime etc. It seems that an asus 7" tegra 3, ips, 16gb model is going to be available for $249 (CES 2012). This seems to be very good value for money and mean samsung will either reduce their rrp or bring out a quad core for the same price as this dual core price by the end of the year.

TBH - I am confused what to do now ? Personally I think quad core is more than enough for a 7" tablet and probably not much point in upgrading after that.

SO what TO DO - follow this tablet "new model every three - six months merry go round" or just buy a 7.7" galaxy tab now be happy and dont look when the quad core comes out for the same money or wait for the asus tablet which will might lead samsung & others dropping their prices?

I have around 24hr before my order gets shipped?

Any help appreciated
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] paulikxp:
Not sure... The 7.7 is a bit bigger, a lot thinner, it runs on Honeycomb instead of Gingerbread, it's a lot quicker.

But: in my opinion the old Tab is easier to hold, there's simply more flesh for grabbing. I have the 7.7 for barely 12hrs now, it's surely too early for a complete verdict.

The clip plays absolutely nice without a glitch. It's essential to play it from the internal memory or a really quick microSD (class 6 or better).

Don't think too much about 'dual' and 'quad', there's more than that which counts into a sleek experience. It would be good to see an in-deep comparison between the 7.7 and the new quadcore Asus MediaPad.

You won't find the perfect tablet which will stay up to date for 2 years. I would advise you to stay with the 7.7, you will get a lot of tablet for the (steep) price.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
I can go into stock recovery and have tried factory reset but it did not hep. And yes, I tried holding power button for a long time but it did not help! I guess my only option is to wait until some of you post an original rom or custom rom of some kind!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] NZtechfreak:
Tried out GPS just now - on cold lock slower than 3G enabled devices as lacks A-GPS - a minute to lock on first lock in rather GPS-adverse conditions. Hot locks thereafter like within seconds. Definitely GLONASS enabled - saw 15 satellites.

Also, update with my Twitter 'stream of consciousness' for the 7.7 today for those not following:

Interesting, the phone version of Splashtop works perfectly on the #GalaxyTab7.7 - no colour rendering problems...

6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

...Samsung's doing on the software side, or just having a MUCH better SoC with the Exynos...

So, I'm finding the #GalaxyTab7.7 to be the best performing HC tablet I've used (setting aside the Prime of course), wonder if that's...

Just checked GPS - without A-GPS it's a little slower to kick off, but can confirm that GLONASS support is enabled #GalaxyTab7.7

Whoa, Splashtop works but the colour rendering is extremely funky, makes it difficult to use... Oh, and pen drives on Fat32 work OK...

NTFS not supported in #GalaxyTab7.7 - not surprised but dislike after using the Prime with ASUS added-value file formatting systems support

Oh, and MTP still sucks for transferring files... #GalaxyTab7.7

Zelda OoT looks freakin incredible on SAMOLED HD with HR texture pack! #GalaxyTab7.7

@ least they have done right by the bluetooth stack - seems stock since WiiMotes work (Datel Retro Wireless one is awesome!) #GalaxyTab7.7

#GalaxyTab7.7 USB Host is also seriously borked, PS3 controllers, Logitech Controllers, Portable HDDs, card readers - NOT WORKING

Oh, and the adapters for the other tabs work, by the way!

WTF? Samsung have borked external mouse inputs with the #GalaxyTab7.7 - all buttons are mapped to right click? That's USB AND bluetooth...

@onslaught86 not yet eh, but typing on a physical keyboard is so nice! Who needs a dock for a transforming tablet eh?

Ta-dah! lockerz.com/s/173685010

Man, my iGo Stowaway BT keyboard is awesome with the 7.7!

OK, #GalaxyTab7.7 fully charged, about to go get stupid proprietary connections, then the fun can begin!

AndroidNZ: Sandisk 64GB Micro SDXC cards confirmed WORKING in Galaxy Tab 7.7 bit.ly/oQudPY
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] scottath:
Looked awesome actually. Fades you could see attracting but that's likely video compression, not the tab itself.*I saw for the first time the marks on the screen some people mention too, but that's apparently a side effect of such a huge oled screen, and even at full brightness it takes a black screen of a few seconds to be noticeable. Typing this on the tab in the stock browser, no typing lag.....love it.

Funny you mentioned usb host too. I was thinking of buying the us cbable for my dslr to tether capture / control it......$5 cable on ebay cannot hurt to try though.