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[General Topics] boe:
I just started a thread in the Epic section for a comparison of the 2 for people who have switched from the EVO 3D. I'm hoping to get some feedback from people who have had problems with call quality and signal issues on the 3D who do end up switching to the Epic. I don't know if the Epic will be better or worse for that but I'm hoping it is better as I'll be glad to switch if it is.
[General Topics] th3taman:
Why can you still not see this when viewing all threads? :confused:

Hello XDA mods/admins?
[General Topics] kawaski47:
Are you using the app? If you are, you have to refresh the list via the menu> refresh. I couldn't see it either till I refreshed it
[General Topics] spencer88:
I might get this phone just to play around with, since I've never owned a Samsung Android phone before. The fact that it looks awesome as hell doesn't help to keep me from buying it lol.
[General Topics] devgrp:
My GF got this phone this morning and while the phone is nice its nowhere better than the e3d. For such a big screen, sammy should've gone with a qHD res. That was the biggest let down and the fact that its so damn fat. Its thin and light but 4.3 is the sweet spot. Now I hear reviewers say the phone is fast and smooth. It is, but its not doing anything faster than the e3d. I was looking for a difference in scrolling speeds and window transitions when you open an app. I could'nt see any difference. They made it seem like scrolling thru the different screens were instantaneous. The fact its the phone is faster the e3d when you do benchmarks and I take is its because of the sense ui, but for everyday usage its just like all the other high end android phones.
[General Topics] pukemon:
It should be faster web browsing. But yeah pretty much other stuff is negligible.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[General Topics] brownhornet:
I have both and you're being a homer lol. The scrolling is better, the pics and videos are light years better. The gaming is more smooth, the colors are better deeming the qHD vs samoled+ almost non-existent. The screen is nicer. For you to say that it doesn't do anything faster than the 3D shows I can't even take your post serious when there are even comparison videos that show it does just that lol. Just say you like the 3D and leave it at that and stop frontin.
[General Topics] boe:
I am anxious to find good videos comparing the two phones. Please post any that really compare them. Thanks
[General Topics] mlin:
Ditto. Brown hornet, since you have both phones I guess you could go ahead and show us some proof of what you're saying. I don't doubt that the Sammy is smoother bit I doubt it's noticeably faster.

tapa tapa tapa
[General Topics] devgrp:
First off I dont compare things I dont really use on a phone. I see a camera phone as a novelty. I use it because its there but its not a deal breaker for me if the camera sucked. Scrolling is not better. I have zero lag on my e3d when I scroll from screen to screen same as the SGII. Every reviewer said the e3d scrolls very smooth and has no lag going from screen to screen, so unless the scrolling on the SGII is instantaneous, you cant say its better. Saying colors are better is subjective. Some people love the oversaturated colors some dont. I'm one of them that dont. Its looks to cartoony. I do love the deep blacks though.

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Man just go look at the phone at a sprint store see what I'm talking about. Its only faster in benchmarks, and I'm thinking its because sense is so big and bloated and my phone is still smooth. I was anxious to play with my GF phone this morning. After about an hr setting it up for her I was ready to go back to my qHD evo.
[General Topics] clamknuckle:
It's not just the screen. It's a lot lighter and thinner in your pocket, and the battery will be better, along with more storage space.

Day to day performance isn't going to be that different. Although I'll tell you with ADW launcher preset to fast on the SGS, it is pretty much instant. It's not quite so much on the 3D. The 3D isn't slow, it's just not as snappy, it's hard to explain unless you set them up the same way.

I will say this though. The 3D is a great phone, and so is the Epic Touch. You really can't go wrong with either of them.
[General Topics] jenna728:
I agree. My bf just picked one up, he wanted the 3D but I told him to get the Epic Touch in case I wanted one after all lol

My Evo 3D with Xron and ADW EX seems just as smooth if not smoother. I don't care about benchmarks, especially not Quadrant.

I like the colorful screen and weight but like every Samsung phone I have used it still feels kind of cheap compared to my Droid X and 3D.

I know some people might have signal issues with this phone in their area but I live in downtown Chicago and the E3D has been the best phone I have used so far.

Whenever he gets back from work I will test it more.
[General Topics] swaze:
Want a phone to drool over....go check out the "rumored" specs of the sgs3.....now that would fit the definition of an upgrade.

Sent from my 3d pimpin CM7
[General Topics] lyon21:
So, I checked out an SGSII today just to see what all the hype is about. It feels like that cheap piece of garbage would crumble if you grabbed it too hard. I also think that if it had sense 3.0 on it, it would be laggy as all hell. Did not like the 4.5. Was way to fat. Yes the screen was brighter and some colors were nicer but resolution looked ****ty and seen a ton of color saturation.

Sent by my Supercharged dual core from the 3rd Dimension
[General Topics] brownhornet:
So sad people are that desperate to justify the fact that they bought the 3D lol...smh
[General Topics] swaze:
What's sad is guys with a phone other than the 3d are still on this forum trolling for gold. Its nice you have a new phone but noone really cares. We bought the phone that WE wanted and noone has to justify anything to anyone.

Sent from my 3d pimpin CM7
[General Topics] 2fastkuztoms:
I have both, after having qhd on the evo, I dint like the resolution of the gs2, its going back to sprint, I going to wait for 720p samoled. My wife told me that the icons and letters on the gs2 looks like a laptop in safemode, looks cheap.
[General Topics] yougivemerash!!!:
I could have waited for a GS2 before I got my Evo 3d on release day, but the build quality (and not a fan of the screen) is what kept me away. I put my phone in my back pocket very often and find myself sitting on it occasionally (I'm a featherweight, it helps :). I think the GS2 would break in half.
[General Topics] Semseddin:
GS2 over E3D would be a decent downgrade imo. You'll miss the qHD. Test this on your pc, if you're used to 1280x1024 res , try with 1024x768. You'll see my point.
[General Topics] sehven777:
I placed my order with telesales today. It's going to replace the Evo on the other line while the 3d is mine. Going to compare though. If sgs2 screen doesn't look horrible and it doesn't have gps and radio issues, maybe I will use it over the 3d for a bit until bored of it and switch back to the 3d.
[General Topics] ceddie85:
the sgsII is amazing beyond measure..everything is fast n furious..i so regret wasting money on the crappy htc3d nw iam a happy sprint customer
[General Topics] Overstew:
That's a flawed analogy. It's a much larger difference on a computer screen, but on a simple 4"-5" screen the difference is hardly noticable.

After reading a bit on the ET4G forums, there's a lot of people coming from the 3D due to screen preference.
[General Topics] pukemon:
Big difference between 8x480 and 960x540. And im sure the difference between 960x540 to 1200 x720 will be bigger. Otoh though, for a lot of people its not a deal breaker. I appreciate the higher res, but the amoled breathes new life into 8x480.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[General Topics] boe:
I just put mine up on craigslist hoping to avoid the rush.
[General Topics] aaronhayes4:
My wife works at Sprint and has been messing with the new epic and I was able to try it out and its a good phone no doubts there it just comes down to preference. I came to EVO3d from an epic and although I loved my epic a lot I like this better and from the little time I got to use the new epic I still prefer the e3d
[General Topics] crpercodani:
Its a nice phone, very nice. Faster than the 3D for sure when both are stock. I did notice the difference in pixels going from 4.3 qhd to 4.5 8x480. I'm not gonna upgrade tho, I like to upgrade when the increase is massive not marginal. Figure in about 10 or so months we will have quad cores and 720p screens a plenty.
[General Topics] p-slim:
More. Buying the sgsII is a bad idea imo unless you want a 2nd rate phone. September is over one more month then we can all enjoy prime goodness in November

http://m.pocketnow.com/android/leakster-google-nexus-prime-global-launch-with-gsm-and-wimax
[General Topics] boe:
I don't enjoy second rate carriers in the US. GSM sucks everywhere I travel within the US. If this was coming to Verizon or Sprint it would matter more to me. Since I have a pretty good deal with Sprint - that is really the most important to me.
[General Topics] :
So many people are switching. I want to switch too.

#SWAG!!!
[General Topics] boe:
My review after switching from EVO 3D to the Epic Touch 4G

I will post this as a new thread on the Epic forum - I think a lynch mob would come after me with pitchforks and torches if I dared start any thread that wasn't purely EVO 3D in this forum.

I just got the Samsung Epic Touch 4G and the call quality is MUCH better but the 3D has faster data speeds. I had the EVO 3D for about 2 months.

Some of these things are just my opinion of course so some may have another view:

Epic Touch 4G - Pros

1.	Significantly better voice quality

2.	So far no dropped calls (I'll update if this changes).

3.	The screen is much more vibrant but the resolution difference is kind of noticeable so in some cases I find the EVO 3D better and in some situations I prefer the ET4G.

4.	Accurately shows number of unread messages in email on exchange all the time

5.	Larger screen

6.	Lighter

7.	Slimmer

8.	Blacks are extremely good - you can switch it to Movie mode if you find the colors oversaturated.

9.	Contacts show easier

10.	Better speaker quality or just louder

Epic Touch 4G - Cons

1.	TouchWiz not as good in most ways as Sense IMHO

2.	Lock screen seems to require more of a swipe to clear.

3.	I prefer the wallpapers on the EVO 3D (insignificant I realize).

4.	I prefer the news and weather widgets on the EVO 3D (not terribly important either).

EVO 3D - Pros

1.	The data on the EVO 3D is much faster than the ET4G

2.	The screen has a higher resolution but isn't as vibrant so in some cases I find the EVO 3D better and in some situations I prefer the ET4G

3.	I find rearranging icons easier with Sense than TouchWiz. In general I prefer most things about Sense.

EVO 3D – Cons

1.	Horrible voice quality

2.	Dropped calls

3.	Doesn't accurately indicate number of unread messages on Exchange mailboxes.

4.	Smaller Screen

OTHER

I don't really notice much difference in speed between the two - some say they notice a big difference and claim the Epic Touch 4G is much faster/smoother- I don't notice that at all.
[General Topics] r0cky0790:
Why is this thread still alive. In the E3D forums @ that. Guys please just let it die.

My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! Screw Tupac. "A,O,S,P BACK!" >_<
[General Topics] :
Stop your ranting. No offense, but you could avoid the thread all together r0cky. Its not a big deal.

Uhhhh.....ummm.....**Fainted from Signature Fright**
[General Topics] r0cky0790:
True, the annoyance made me lose my humble persona. I'm leaving now...

My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! Screw Tupac. "A,O,S,P BACK!" >_<
[General Topics] Tiffany84:
Just wondering if anyone has ever had any luck with Sprint allowing them to upgrade early? I have an upgrade on one of my lines in January. I currently have an HTC hero on that line and have been having a lot of problems with it. I've done had it swapped out once for repair but the phone has just kind of out lived its life. So just wanting to see if anyone thinks I would have any chance at all getting Sprint to let me upgrade 4 months early or if I shouldn't even waste my time. Thanks for any input and sorry for being off topic.
[General Topics] p-slim:
sprint rarely will pull an att or vzw and let you upgrade early, you will only get that thru retention and after a long argument. honestly you should thank sprint imo because the prime comes out at the end of november and sprint does give 1 month early updates but 4 months usually doesn't happen.
[General Topics] jgalan14:
You might want to call a lot times about the issues tour having they might grant you and upgrade ( they did to me and it was in January and that's how I got my EVO 3d ) if not you can call them and buy up the upgrade which is 75$ and it would appear in your account in less then 24 hours, hope the helps , and good luck
[General Topics] mazook98:
Man, I didn't "jump ship", but once I realized that I could add a line to my family plan, paying only 75$ up front, and what boils down to a DOLLAR a day, to get this ridiculously badass phone...?

I now have two ships.

<<This Space for Rent>>
[General Topics] xxr2hxx:
can you give me more details in to this as i have a free line and would like to get this phone. thanks!
[General Topics] mazook98:
Yep.. Np, but I just explained it in another thread, so I'll just copypaste:

Hope it helps you.

<<This space for rent>>
[General Topics] boe:
I didn't get them to upgrade early but I did get Sprint to give me a $90 credit when I asked them what my options were for replacing my 3D I bought a couple of months ago. They said they could do a buy back but she suggested I'd be better off putting it on craigslist which I did. Sprint gave me $90 credit for having the 3D since a lot of people complained about that phone's issues. So it still cost about $550 - $275 for craiglist and -$90 for the Sprint credit but at least I'm done with that thing. My clients are happy my voice is clear and I made a 2 hour phone call yesterday without dropping signal once - what a joy compared to the 3D.
[General Topics] aypanthony:
meh....quad core phones will be out in 2012. No reason to upgrade the Evo 3D until then.
[General Topics] swaze:
Why is this thread still here?

MODs, why not just move it to the SGS2 forum already.
[General Topics] mazook98:
Maybe it might help someone realize they can have BOTH phones, and rather inexpensively.

This thread is the reason I realized I could have the 'best of both'.

So, yeah....

I guess your question is moot.

<<This space for rent>>
[General Topics] :
This.
[General Topics] cordell12:
edit, not worth the B.S.
[General Topics] reverepats:
so ZOOk, u got one in the way?....got mine on Sunday....dood its friggen ridiculous....i wish i had a use for 2 phones cause i would have opened another line and kept my 3D (which i do miss a bit)....but what a great device....u wont regret it man...
[General Topics] cordell12:
What does everyone who "jumps ship" do with the 3D's, sell them, if so how much they fetching?

Thanks
[General Topics] shook187:
Im having no luck selling mine. I'm only asking $250 and still no luck. Thank you epic touch for lowering my resale value of my 3d
[General Topics] riz_o:
Let me get this straight, you basically added a new line for $30 mo

so $30 x 24 mos (new contract) =$720 + your $75 fee = $795 total.

So that's how much you paid, or will pay over 2 years for your new SG2.

I was thinking this route....

if you trade in your E3D they will give you $135.

$500 (sg2 retail) - $135 = $365 total and your plan will not change.

assuming of course they let you switch our your 3VO for the GS2.

well it's not really a choice since you're trading the 3VO in.

Does anyone know if they will let you do this???

I'd rather pay $500 retail than paying over $720 by adding another line.

edit:

So I just came from Sprint and traded my Assurion Refurb 3VO for $135 plus my $75 credit.. and I got the SG2 for $290 plus tax..

beats adding another line for $30 a month...

Originally Posted by xxr2hxx

can you give me more details in to this as i have a free line and would like to get this phone. thanks!

Yep.. Np, but I just explained it in another thread, so I'll just copypaste:

Originally Posted by mazook98

Sure..

My family "unlimited everything" plan

*WAS $129 +19.99 for a third line (my 8 yr old daughter's phone) monthly. So, 150$ total, (though that's without those little taxes and whatnot fees.)

*NOW, It's the same $129 +19.99 (for Jordan's phone), with a new fee of 19.99 (4th line add-on fee) + $10 more for the 4G data fee or whatever... So roughly 180 a month now (before the extra little bull****) compared to 150 before.

My brain comprehends that as an extra dollar a day.

And the phone itself? They wanted me to initially pay 199.99 for the add-a-phone price, so I called the Sprint customer service number and explained how I've bought the EVO4G, Shift, and Evo3d, lately, and have been with y'all for 9 years..yada yada, and they adjusted my fee to 75$.

Hope it helps you.
[General Topics] mlin:
It seems a little silly to pay this much to have two phones. It would cost you less in the long run to just buy the SGS2 at full price.
[General Topics] mazook98:
No chance.

Because of a few things:

1) The percent chance of me actually having to finish this 2 year contract with Sprint is approximately 0.

We will make "a new deal" before then, like we always have, on some future device.

2) At the end of my two years, even if I were still under contract, I could just sell the phone, and get (I'm guessing here) almost triple what my cash price was, PLUS, I didn't have to sell my 3D, so I'm keeping that in my asset column.

On the possibility of selling it, here's a 'Back to the Future' example:

Biff'slist in 2013 has plenty of rooted, optimized Samsung Galaxy S2's for 200-250 bucks, and they sell at that price regularly. (or, I can use my Best Buy guaranteed buyback option that will ensure the same thing.

(However, knowing me, if this phone becomes as important to me, and as much fun for me as, say, my EVO4G was, I'll probably just hang onto it, if it "stays" this fantastic. That's exactly why I still have an extra EVO4G.)

Sorry, but it's just as easy to rationize the reason for buying one as it is to rationize the reason for not buying one.

I'm glad that I bought it the way I did, instead of being a guy who brought in 600 dollars to buy one, and ended up having to 'beg someone' to sell it to me at full-retail price. That, to me, just sounds awful from every angle.

But......as they say:

To each his own.

<<This space for rent>>
[General Topics] mazook98:
Really?

Are there any Encyclopedia Brown enthusiasts in the crowd?

(This'll be fun... no offense, riz_o....)

Where did our suspect make a critical error in his calculations?

(Hint: It's not on the "way obvious" level, but it is sitting right there, close to the front.)

<<space for rent>>
[General Topics] cordell12:
I am jumping ship as soon as my touch 4g arrives in the mail! Got it for $480 on Flea Bay, not bad. Selling my 3D LINK I am open to offers, cash only though :)

Come with a dock, extra battery, otter box defender, and tpu case.
[General Topics] pukemon:
Amercan carriers love people like you. And the reason many of useful hate american carriers and their business models. Its funny how people think theyre getting a leg up on the.carriers when its still the other way around.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[General Topics] cordell12:
I ended up getting $300 for mine, a bit lower than I expected. I had a otter box defender, a tpu case, and a charge dock with a chinese extra battery. I agree with the epic touch dropping the value, plus the fact that buyback from sprint is $130, thats crazy! The sensation buyback is $200 and it has no 3d, and has less ram! They failed on the 3d and know it :(
[General Topics] swaze:
The only fail is you bumping this thread.......why are you here. You dont have a 3d so go troll in your appropriate forums.
[General Topics] MichaelMcEntire:
You know, I briefly thought about jumping ship just because I like new stuff. Then I realized that my favorite thing to do on a phone is customize and flash roms. Will the Touch get better dev support then the OG Epic? Probably, however I don't think it will compare to the 3d. I believe in a short amount of time I would regret my decision. Now with the 3d I have the option to boot multiple roms with just a reboot with Boot Manager. Awesome, and something I would not be able to do on a Samsung phone. So for me at least, the 3d is the way to go.

Sent from my E3D.
[General Topics] mlin:
Whatever works for you. Even after 1 year you've already paid 435 for the phone when for $450-480 you could've gotten one online and not had to deal with a new line or the potential of paying $795-919 over the course of 2 years for the phone. Heck, even buying the phone with a new line and canceling (in your case where you got the phone for $75) would only cost you $425 and again you have no additional line/contract.
[General Topics] brownhornet:
For you to hate this thread so much you have just as many replies in here as the people that actually BOUGHT the phone.
[General Topics] swaze:
*Facepalm*

Oh no, not you again........*runs to get his anti stupidity bodysuit*
[General Topics] mazook98:
OR, I could just basically ignore all that "I told you so!" math and enjoy my SGS2 right now, and still have 500 more dollars in the bank.

I really don't even care about the money anymore, because this phone is so sick.

And Yes, for now, I'm gonna keep the 3d....

(I'm just trying to figure out a good reason.)

<<http://db.tt/DZxKLJiW>>
[General Topics] mlin:
Right on, I don't have money to burn so even if I do buy new toys I try to do so without spending unnecessary amounts of money. It seemed like you were advocating this approach to upgrading as if it was a smart and cost effective way to purchase the phone when really you end up spending (a lot) more.

Who knows, maybe when I'm done with school and making more money I'll be less money conscious.
[General Topics] thizzlemania91:
Why are you hating so much on this threat, its obviously helping people out. And thats what this is all about. Just avoid it already man its not really a big deal bro, your making your self seem like that stupid word ppl call each other (troll) just word of advice.
[General Topics] swaze:
Thanks for the advice. I can now go drink this bleach and feel better about myself knowing that you have just blessed me with some knowledge. :D
[General Topics] thizzlemania91:
Lol no disrespect towards you hah
[General Topics] swaze:
None taken, just having some fun. :)
[General Topics] -viperboy-:
I'm thinking about jumping ship if I get one for a decent price.
[General Topics] Product F(RED):
Ditto. The 3D is not all it was cracked up to be.
[General Topics] swaze:
All depends on what you thought it should have been from the jump.

But FYI, I did happen to pit the 3d vs the epic touch and there is definately not a bit of difference between the phones as far as speed. Yes, vs a stock 3d the epic pretty much shows a big difference in scrolling speed and snappiness. But the Sense 3.0 is the culprit, because running cm7 there is virtually zero difference. Scrolling, opening apps, performance was the same and even the guy in the store agreed. Not too mention he also wanted me to put cm7 on his evo. Now if you wanna compare cameras and all that, I guess its a matter of opinion but I didn't do a camera test cause thats not important to my use. But knowing minus sense, there is no difference between the two pretty much made my day.
[General Topics] todah09:
Will the epic touch support EVDO REV B?