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[HD2 General] apalileo:
The freezer trick will only serve as an indicator that your phone is suffering from the thermal issues that are being addressed in the link that Dr.Move posted. I had another HD2 that wouldn't get past MAGLDR unless it was cold. Even then once it got warm it would shut off.
[HD2 General] jcsy:
I have similiar problems with Shaamaan and I have another HD2, which works flawlessly and doesnt get stuck

while it might be either BAD BLOCKS, or the THERMAL problems as posted above, I am half tempted to put it into the freezer

I have warranty though, which I should probably warranty it before doign anything silly :D
[HD2 General] Shaamaan:
Sorry for the late reply.

The thing is, after going through the freezer, the phone is now running smooth. Again, I don't have a SIM card for it (it's T-Mobile locked), but other than that, I was playing with it using my home WiFI and it didn't lock once. I've also rebooted it a number of time, entering the AD recovery mode without a problem.

I've taken a quick glance at the thread linked Dr.Move and... whoa, that looks scary. :eek: It's not even my phone, and I still wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. There's a certain level of finesse required with electronic devices of this kind; I can take a computer apart, but this?

Anyway, seems like I need to put a bit more stress on the phone. Any suggestions? Would running some of those Android performance tools be enough? Or do I specifically need a CPU stress testing tool like the one mentioned in that scary thread?

EDIT: I've found some stress tool on the store, and it's been running for 15 minutes now, reaching a temperature of 34 degrees and seems to stay there.
[HD2 General] Dr.Move:
try to run games or stress tools while charging, this will heat it to over 40 Celsius, I got it over 42 before with no problems, but be cautious.
[HD2 General] jcsy:
currently facing this issue as well

wonder if anyone else tried this and it worked, and what tips / concerns can be shared
[HD2 General] StuartUSA:
Is it still fixed???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woop123:
Hi

I was wondering if there is a way to factory reset my phone if i cannot go into recovery mode (i.e. if i hold down Vol. Down and boot, it shows the recovery thing for 1 second, then crashes and reboots into android). If i use the recovery from android it also reboots and tries to go into recovery, where it crashes.

So, is there any way to circumvent recovery? I can not attach the phone to a pc.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
vol down + boot, then select factory reset
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woop123:
I don't mean to be rude, and any help is greatly appreciated, but please at least read my post before answering.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
u said that u can't go into recovery

the option "factory reset" is in the bootloader menu..u can't boot into the bootloader???:confused:

in the wors case, flash an ruu
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woop123:
I'm sorry, i didn't know there was a difference. My bad.

No , I cannot go into the bootloader. Can i flash an ruu if i cannot connect my phone to the pc?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
if ur phone is not branded by ur operator, u can flash the latest froyo ruu available by downloading this, rename it as PB99IMG.zip and put in the root of the sdcard (using a card reader with ur computer)

boot the phone in bootloader and hope that it not crash and start the update (it should start automatically)

if it crash before to start the update..i dont have other ideas..

anyway i never heard about a crashing bootloader..after what this start happening?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woop123:
I will try, but i don't have much hope.

This is most probably the aftermath of my phone taking a trip to the bottom of a lake.

//edit: Sadly, I can't get your suggestion to work. The bootloader still crashes :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
First of all: If you have a crashed bootloader, the phone would do absolutely nothing. As long as you phone reacts, your bootloader is not crashed.

What do you mean with "it boots into android?" What happens next?

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woop123:
Well, it boots into android as you would expect (i can use w-lan etc, surf the net, install aps...) as long as no sim card is inserted. I guess the radio is damaged so it crashes after putting in a pin when a sim card is in the phone.

Maybe the bootloader tries to access the radio too and that is why it crahes?

The phone also only works when plugged into the outlet, so the battery is probably damaged.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
Did you root your phone? If not, just send it to HTC. You talking about a recovery, but not which type (stock or custom).

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[Galaxy S II General] cpu98:
in a city with 1/4 open sky
[HTC Sensation] checkbox111:
what do you folks use as satnav here in the UK?

Copilot isn't compatible yet :(
[HTC Sensation] lucifermoose:
Well I got the car dock, and paid for the HTC Locations £22.99 for life time, and i am very happy with it IMO just as good as my Tom Tom dedicated satnav.
[HTC Sensation] jarkarol:
I have CoPilot Live installed on my Sensation and it does work perfectly
[HTC Sensation] meegs:
Same here, copilot working like a charm
[HTC Sensation] wicked.igor:
Use Igo,works perfectly:)
[HTC Sensation] sdc77:
I use Google nav

I do have co pilot but I never even loaded it on here .. Google nav is fine
[HTC Sensation] taffypride:
I use Navigon Europe..... never taken me wrong yet...

Might try the HTC Navigation though.... £22.99 for a lifetime actually sounds pretty good.....
[HTC Sensation] Dust2Dust:
Sygic Aura.

many, many features and a bit of augmented stuf.
[HTC Sensation] daddyspud:
I have HTC navigation n its create just s good as my Tom Tom as they both use route 66 its great as long as the ROM u use has it in there ROM
[HTC Sensation] everyday48:
Google map off-line nav is worked well.

Send from: gplus.to/everyday
[HTC Sensation] tony.wheeler:
I have been using Co-pilot for years now and it works very well on the Sensation. I use it with Google Navigation so I can switch between the 2 on a car journey and use the Google Nav to see road traffic problems (red dot/roads etc). I find that the 2 work well togther. I also use CamerAlert - all 3 are happy running on the Sensation and I get pop-ups from CamerAlert, traffic guidance from Google Nav and the clear and good route estimates of Co-pilot.
[HTC Sensation] fireblade893:
I have co-pilot 8 with their traffic add on (£9.99 per year) it is ok but not great.

The maps are old , traffic info not as good as Google and it can pick odd routes. A really annoying thing is it won't auto re-route due to traffic it just informs you.

Tried Aura but it has terrible routing ( from m62 to m56 it wanted to take me through Warrington town centre on a roads rather than use m6 , btw going from Manchester to north wales)

Tried navigon didn't like UI at all

Google navigation is good as long as you have a signal and don't use the phone much for talking while navigating

It's pro's are its free and has good traffic info and maps are quite upto date

Con's are imo no speed cams and no speed display and no 2D direction of travel up.

Am using HTC Locations atm as its the only one to integrate fully with the phone ie if someone calls while driving a POP up comes up on bottom of the screen but the map also stays running which none of the others do they just go to phone canvas .

Bought the 1 month subscription for use abroad but its not the easiest to enter addresses on and the main downside is the traffic option is blanked out you cannot buy the traffic yet. I emailed about buying it but they couldn't give me an eta when this will be available.

So for now its back to Google navigation although I am thinking if buying a TomTom 1005 as it still has the best traffic and best routing imo . I have kept my old touch hd as it has TomTom on it but wm TomTom hasn't got the hd traffic /iq routes or tts

Not tried co-pilot 9 yet if anyone has is it worth the cost to upgrade from 8 to 9?
[HTC Sensation] fishluke:
Google maps navigation. Don't see why anyone would need to pay for one, although admittedly I don't drive so could be stuff I'm missing =p
[HTC Sensation] peterc10:
Why do you say that? Although I live in the UK I have Copilot on my Sensation with US maps and that works fine on my Sensation and has UK maps available. For UK and the rest of Europe I use Sygic, which also works well.

These were legacy apps from my old Hero. I just emailed support of both Copilot and Sygic with my product code and they gave me instructions and links to download and re-install the apps on the Sensation. Sygic even gave me a free upgrade to the latest software and maps.
[HTC Sensation] brobberson:
I use MapQuest and it has navigation built in to it. It is a all in one app and does not need alot of resources to run it. I also gives you turn by turn instruction by voice.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
Did you guys see the hands on video yet? 720p SAMOLED+ screen, exynos internal and an external sd slot in a thinner package

I'm not sure if it's the exynos internal or the 3.2 but the rotation and home screen transition looked extremely smooth

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-video/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] cdf3:
I like the size of it. Very portable.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
i'm more excited about the specs and basic performance it's exhibiting on the video
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] 5thElement:
Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
Eh, the 7" is a great size for traveling.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] DroidHam:
i think ill sell my 10" when this comes out, it'll be nice to get off the tegra 2 and get something a little more portable
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] EvoXOhio:
I'm more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note for my next phone. I thought anything bigger than 4.5" would be too bit for a phone, but after watching the videos, it seems fine. I guess the thinness and tiny bezel help a lot. Sadly we probably won't see it on US carriers for 6 months.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] akarol:
No Kal-El... no thanks!

What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.

Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] K Rich:
i just wish the 10.1 would have come with exynos.

and the ppi on those screens!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] RMXO:
I had a Euro Galaxy Tab 7" and while it was very portable. I kept wishing it was bigger when playing games. Especially, when play Order & Chaos. The new 7.7 is tempting but I learned my lesson once already. If I were to switch, the 8.9 would probably be the one for me.

BTW, love the Samsung Note. I wonder which SoC its using? Anyone have the complete specs for it?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] K Rich:
It's running the same as the 7.7, we know that haha.

The note sounds sweet! 5.3" super amoled at 1280x800....damn

Sent from your mothers house.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] 5thElement:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Itaintrite:
Says who? Is it comfortable reading a book on a 3.5-4" screen smartphone? Surfing the full-mode web? Didn't think so.

7" is most likely the sweet spot for portable tablets, and the reason why all e-readers are around that size. The perfect tablet size for me would be 8-9" as well.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Croak:
That's bull. My OG Tab is still used every day (though it gets retired the minute I can get my hands on that 7.7), along with my old 4" SGS and my current 4.3" SGS2, and I have a Tab 10.1

Different tools for different jobs.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nikzDHD:
This looks fantastic! Got the 10.1 myself and while it's awesome, this HD resolution, MircroSD slot, Dual Core etc make it a very appealing device. Form factor is lovely as well and seems an ideal size for traveling. Will see what else pops up at IFA and will await Kal El devices as well.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] burhanistan:
No one would ever have a device with this mentality. One has to have gadget nirvana: make your decision based on what's available at that time, then relax and don't worry if it's not the absolute latest thing. Will it still do what you want? Yep! Will it not have that lastest shiny thing that marketing departments want you to think you need in order to not want to hurl yourself off a bridge in envy of others? Maybe not, but who gives a crap.

Kal-el devices will be overshadowed by the next gen processor or integrated GPU or whatever very soon after they are on the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to wait a bit for something you think will be better and has a definite launch date. But, to be constantly on edge that whatever device you get will be "obsolete" soon after purchase is kind of a slavish mentality.

I'm reminded of a coworker I had who was putting off buying a digital camera because they kept getting better every six months. So, in 2009 she was still using a dinky 110 film camera.

Anyway, not to rant. But, if we need (need may be too strong a word for tablets) a device then playing the waiting game is as much as a con as it is a pro.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Kitten Mittens:
In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] RMXO:
I say reward yourself now. When Tegra 3 or better comes out, you upgrade to the newer one & either resell or hand me down gift to someone.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] 5thElement:
You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] darktranquility18:
And you've used tegra 3 already haven't you?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] 5thElement:
That is correct.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] SS2006:
a 7.7 inch amoled plus with 720p, wow :O

but how much bigger is 7.7 than 7? i need to see this live
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] SS2006:
hah, while u were asleep?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
according to which fantasy world?

Tegra2 only outbenched exynos in benchmarks where exynos was capped at 60fps whereas tegra2 wasn't.

So basically what you're saying here is that tegra3 is 6-8 times faster than tegra2? I highly doubt it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Kitten Mittens:
Well considering Tegra 3 isn't available yet for this kind of testing, and the fact that Samsung hasn't even said what processor is in the 7.7 other than "1.4Ghz dual core" I'd say that you're jumping the gun a bit with that claim.

And is the speed really going to matter much right now? Maybe year or two from now quad core will be standard, but I don't really think there will be an abundance of apps that will require the extra cores or speed outside of the graphically intense games on Android but I'm not really into that stuff. I guess if you're the type of person that has to have the latest processor than I'm not going to stop you from holding out for Kal-El, but for me the screen technology is more important and the 7.7 has hands down the best display in a consumer device, and not just for tablets, compared to all kinds of devices, phones, TVs, laptops, etc.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Step666:
The bigger mystery is what's the point of your post.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] cdf3:
It would be perfect for me while at work. I deal with spreadsheets and various documents while on the go. Viewing them on my phone is not the most ideal situation. I view them on my Tab 10.1, but I really wish it was smaller. That size would be perfect for work. Not so much for games and multimedia. Wish I could have two devices. 10.1 at home, and 7.7 on the go.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] RMXO:
This is why I believe the 8.9 is perfect for me, but I do like the portability of the 7.7.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] 5thElement:
I dont think a grocery store shopping list qualifies as "spreadsheets and documents" lol.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] AndreBrian:
Plus 1. Been read "5thElement" for some time. I just can understand what the motive is. Ha ha ha ..... PEACE
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jkr284:
we can all admit that tegra 2 performance in the real world was blown way out of proportion, everyone made it sound like it would **** on everything else, either nothing takes advantage of it yet or single core phones/tablets can keep up with the tegra 2. ie see chainfire 3d performance on high end single core phones/tablets and gaming!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] foxmeister:
+1.

I have a GT 10.1 which mostly stays at home, and the original GT 7 3G which I take when travelling for work. The big advantage of the GT 7 is that it fits in a jacket pocket, and it looks like the GT 7.7 will too as the smaller bezel should compensate for the slightly larger screen.

I did consider an GT 8.9 as a "compromise" device, but since it wouldn't fit in a jacket pocket, I didn't see a whole lot of point over the 10.1 I already have as I'd still ideally need to tote it around in a bag, and thus owning one wouldn't cause me to retire the GT 7.

The Note does look interesting, but to be honest I think it's too small to get maximum use out of the screen resolution, plus the battery capacity is half that of the 7.7.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] cdf3:
Who said anything about grocery lists on a spreadsheet. They have apps for that.

I mentioned at work. Grocery shopping would not be considered work. That's something one would do after work.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Spewy1:
I think he was joking!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Umyd:
large vids?

what i havent been able to find out is if it will play vids larger than 4gb.

if it doesnt, is there anything one can do to enable it?

this is the only condition for me to buy it.

if it doesnt, i just dont see the point of carrying any other device than my gs2.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
NTFS support will allow files larger than 4GBs and i don't think there is a limitation on playback rather fat32 limitation
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Umyd:
thanx for taking the time.

so, is there any workaround like formatting it in a way that'll enable you to copy and play any size vid?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] almostinsane:
Since the SD card needs to be formatted in FAT32 you are limited to 4GB file sizes. Andoid will not recognize an SD card formatted in NTFS or exFAT.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
From the manufacturer it's not but with more and more of these devices coming out with usb host support, it's only a matter of time.

Also android devices can gain ntfs support through custom kernel/Rom (i had ntfs support on my 10.1)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] pinsb:
You can format it in ext2/3/4 and that works.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] almostinsane:
That's not consumer friendly. Until you can format it in android or with a Mac/Windows PC in exFat you are still limited to 4GB.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Umyd:
what a waste

really, what a pity.

most tablets have the resolution of 1200x720p. and the devices are more than capable of handling high frame/bit rates.

and it's just murphy's law that these vids, when longer than 90 minutes are always just over 4gb.

man oh man!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
For files greater than 4GB, use WiFi to transfer. Issue resolved. :P
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Umyd:
wait, what? plz tell me more.

can anybody confirm this?

(remember we are talking 720p full length movies)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
I have used to ES File Explorer to transfer >4GB files from my computer before. Takes a while to transfer, but it should work just fine because you're not even touching FAT32, because you're not using an external memory card to transfer, you're just copying straight to your device into whatever file system it's using. The system partition of my GT8.9 is ext4, so I have had no issues there. Same with my GSII.

I'll tell ya what, I'll find a 720p movie that's bigger than 4GB, use ES File Explorer, and create a YouTube video if it works, just as a proof of concept. Update later.

P.S. I haven't yet tried with video's. The file that was >4GB in my case was a virtual machine. :P
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Umyd:
if u demo playing a 4gb+ vid on your GSII on youtube, you'll officially be declared many peoples hero!

by now you may have guessed how many ppl are suffering from this.

sounds too good to be true, but fingers crossed ;)

thanx for taking so much time for it
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] NZtechfreak:
Just got my Tab 7.7

First impressions are incredibly favourable.

It feels absolutely incredible in the hand with how slim it is, and the build materials are stellar - a refreshing change from Samsung's usual gear (every now and again they show that they really can make extremely classy looking and feeling devices, only wish they did that more often!). The screen is amazing, but I only realised how good it is when I had it next to my Transformer Prime - I thought the Prime's screen was stellar (best on a tablet yet I thought) but the 7.7 makes it look thoroughly average.

It's HC 3.2 with TW, and runs pretty well with just the occasional tiny micro-hitch here and there (the Prime's Tegra 3 is the only device I've had so far that could drive HC well enough to call 'buttery'). I noted with interest that there is no lag typing in the browser with a software keyboard, must be something Samsung have done to it because even the Prime had attrocious lag in HC in browser typing...

Need to get some stupid proprietary connectors tomorrow and can then do usual connectivity test and video...

Questions?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] okpc:
Cool, what region are you from? Has it got micro SD and 3g?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] NZtechfreak:
I'm in New Zealand, but this one came from Hong Kong. Mine is the WiFi only, but the 3G one is also available currently.

Definitely has SD card slot, works with 64GB micro SDXC cards too.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ceejay83:
the 7.7 looks really nice, i don't know if i should get that or the new tegra 3 $250 asus tablet :P
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] mminoss:
Yes, the futur Tegra 3 feels good ;-)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] knoxjon:
Is there any word on an ETA for that Asus tab?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ceejay83:
Q2 is the estimate
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] echijon:
this size and this display type and this thickness is suitable for reading and gaming

this tablet is amazing!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ozren:
...........
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Croak:
The answer lies in your words. The fact that it uses a Tegra should be enough to make you avoid it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Ricey:
Not only that but by the time it comes out I'm sure new tablets using samsungs Exynos 5xxx and Qualcomm's new quadcore both utilizing cortex A15 vs tegra 3s A8 will be out as well. It boils down to if you want to wait for something better, you might be stuck waiting forever because something new and better will always be out in only a few months time.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] onicrom:
do you really think a 250$ tegra3 is going to have the same fit/finish that the 7.7 has? i highly doubt it.

the specs in the 7.7 are great not amazingly breakthrough but still pretty great, the real selling point for me was the size/weight, screen, specs, fit and finish (in that order). I am very happy with my purchase
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Masterface7:
Since the verizon one is probably gonna have LTE in it does that mean they are gonna change the xynos inside? I can't decide if i should wait it out for the verizon pad or import one and just use AT&T if i feel the need for 3g.