yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] gtkansan:
When you use that speed to download a couple large files and then go over your limit. You'll love the bill shock from Verizon f*ing you over.
[HTC EVO 3D] hdad2:
So the question remains... Can we build a prl? Can we combine the bits of one with another? I have no idea how the technology works.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Yes. The QPST package used to pull and push PRLs has a PRL editor that you can hack up until your heart is content. I would suggest reading a few white papers on how a PRL works first though so you can understand what you are doing. The papers do not tell everything though, but they get you about 80% there.
[HTC EVO 3D] efioren:
I changed my prl to 60613

I CHANGED MY PRL TO 60613 AND I COMPARED MY SIGNAL WITH MY FRIENDS PRL 21081 EVO 3D AND MY SIGNAL WAS 1-2 BARS STRONGER AND MY DOWNLOADING SPEEDS WERE ON STEROIDS...CAN SOME1 EXPLAIN TO ME what PRL 60613 is ?
[HTC EVO 3D] Tiffany84:
I'm using the 11115 prl but when I force roam with roam control I don't really see a difference but I used a hacked phone.apk that u could force roam and it made a huge difference. Anyone know why that is?
[HTC EVO 3D] creektrack:
It's for standard EVDO phones, my wifes EVO 4G has 60681 and gets much better speeds, I'm about to try and see if its any better....20281 for our phones are for 800 mhz support, but we don't even have access to that band yet...
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
Would you be able to post 60613 for us?
[HTC EVO 3D] fastamx79:
To people using the PRL 11115... is it causing your phone to display the wrong time? Every time my phone goes into roam my clock changes 2 hours behind from what it should be.. I've tried to adjust the time manually as well, but no luck as it will mess with my time once my phone goes out of roam.

I don't know if it is a PRL issue, or a ROM issue as I updated my ROM the same time I installed this PRL

--edit--

It isn't the PRL.. I believe it to be my ROM.
[HTC EVO 3D] lchupacabras:
Here you guys go:

http://www.multiupload.com/IO1663DAEU
[HTC EVO 3D] wardfan220:
60613 Where did that come from? I don't remember seeing that out before, anyone know the difference between that and the 20281?
[HTC EVO 3D] fastamx79:
60613 is from the Evo 4G (any PRL starting with "6" is EVDO smartphone)

any PRL starting with "2" are dual band phones like the Evo3D (in a nut shell... phones that can work on the 800mhz iDEN frequency and only with/where available per Sprint's "Network Vision" upgrade.)

If you want to dig into what the differences are hit this website....

http://www.batonrougebroadband.info/
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
Thank you!
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Wow..60613. That's a PRL from over 3 years ago. I wouldn't run that one as a lot has changed between 60613 and now with roaming and including several strategic roaming partners (shows up as native coverage)

What SID are you connected to?
[HTC EVO 3D] lchupacabras:
Running the latest Evo 4G PRL and, ****, it's like who turned in the 3G:
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
is that 60613?
[HTC EVO 3D] YoMaMa7467:
Speeds before using the prl 20181 and speeds and now using the posted prl

Huge difference!
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
I've noticed that you have said at least a few times that a PRL will not give you better 3G speeds. However, the empirical data seems to indicate the contrary. And the differences posted are well beyond a placebo effect. I'm just trying to understand why running this 3 year old EVO 4G prl seems to be producing noticeably better speeds..
[HTC EVO 3D] doakills:
well I can say safely after playing around with many of these "claimed" improved prls people are using that none really produce any better results then the currently pushed sprint one, 21081? I think it is. They all gave me the same signal ratio, data speeds, etc. Only thing I can think is that just maybe these people are in absolute rural areas inside vzw, us cell towers, or outlying roam towers that give better coverage on different prls based on just that. No other idea why or how they can claim there getting better reception or service.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
You might actually be on a roaming 3g signal that was indeed listed as native coverage in that old PRL because sprint did not have their own 3g. What SID are you on?
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
Interesting. I haven't tried this prl yet, (so I can't give you a SID) I was just asking/researching to see if it was worth the effort. So, if you are, in fact, roaming but it was listed as native, would the little roaming triangle still show up over the signal strength bars?
[HTC EVO 3D] eboogie33:
I see my thread is still going strong. Thanks for uploading bout to try this now:D
[HTC EVO 3D] nhutpham:
I'm still using or 21081, and I had 3g speeds over 1meg as well. Backing august sprint reason the phone said they would be upgrading their towers and would be finished around this time, maybe it's started to get done? Perhaps to be in time for iphone 5?
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
I was asking for the SID you are connecting to now.

Yes, for instance Sprint didn't have their own 3G in my area for a couple of years. They actually used Alltel's 3G. In the PRL it was listed to connect to Sprint 1X for voice/sms and use an Alltel subnet/channels for EVDO. EVDO channels are not given a SID, they use a subnet which a lot of times a subnet is used for the entire US or a large regional area.

If I knew the SID you were on I could look at 60613 and see what EVDO scans are associated with it and compare it to the latest PRL.

It's funny that many times people say they got faster speeds or better signal when you look at an old PRL and a new PRL for their SID and nothing has changed in years. But they swear by it....
[HTC EVO 3D] bignibb:
Ok I installed the 60613 prl on my 3D and my speeds have increased as far as steaming, surfing the web and even call quality seems better so when I got home from work I decided I was going to compare it to my wifes EVO4G and the speeds were pretty much spot on. So I checked to see what prl she had on hers and to my surprise she had the 11115 prl running. I know she didn't download it and install it because she is just a devise user, I do all the hacking and rooting stuff. I even tried to update the prl and it just hung there. I checked my sprint Bill when i was at work to see how much data each of my 4 line was using but even with that prl installed she only used like 30mb of roam data if that.

On a side note, I tried every prl that has been posted in this thread that was defined as a sprint prl. They all work great at my house but when away from it I suffered terrible data speeds as well as repeated, constant calls being dropped, I installed the 60613 prl and I have gotten the best cell phone call quality as of yet, I was able to make call in areas where I normally even on the 21081 I think it was would drop. I also was able to steam video where i would normally only be able to barely open a web page. So much thanks to the original poster.
[HTC EVO 3D] ZeeMox:
This is weird... you guys are saying that using an outdated PRL for a different phone is giving such a dramatic difference in speed? How can that be?
[HTC EVO 3D] bignibb:
That's easy, newer doesn't always mean better. I see it this way, the prl's have been posted, if it works keep it, if it doesn't revert back.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Dunno... no one wants to post their SID so I can compare it to old PRLs.
[HTC EVO 3D] creektrack:
I tried to see mine but my epst fc'ed on me...I think it said 4353 and I'm using 60681 prl, which is the current prl for the 4G...
[HTC EVO 3D] hdad2:
I wonder if the newer prl's are used to throttle the network traffic a bit. Maybe it can't be done that way, but its hard to dismiss the number of people reporting improved speeds with the older prl
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Nope, not possible to throttle through the PRL. It's all or nothing. Throttling would be done at the tower where it has full control. The throttling wouldn't be done at the device.

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If you are Houston as your profile says, it's 4622
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
What do I need to do to get my SID?
[HTC EVO 3D] cousjcc:
HTC Evo,password?

When I type in the ##775# code it asks for a password. Is there a default one? I'm currently on PRL 60681 but I'm still experiencing severely slow DL speeds so I want to roll back to the 21081 PRL. I already have it downloaded and extracted to my SD card but I couldn't see anyone on here in the first 20 pages or so mentioning a password/passcode (seems to be numbers only) after the ##775# code. I'm on an Evo 4g, not the Evo 3d.

Interestingly enough with the 4g antenna on speedtest.net gave me a speed of 4mbps down. However, I'm trying to download a 300mb file and so far it's less than 20% complete after hour. So how does 4mbps translate into 60mb in an hour? Ummmm no.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Not sure...I don't have an EVO. I can see it on the ##DEBUG# screen on mine.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
What is 20281? I know 21081 is the exact same as 60681.
[HTC EVO 3D] cousjcc:
Typo, sorry. I meant the 21081 PRL. I downloaded it from an earlier page of this thread along with the EPSK file for the ##775# code. That's as far as can get though because when I type in the ##775# code it asks for a passcode/passkey. I know tech support had me type that in once when they were trying to 'fix' the problem, but I can't remember the # they had me type in.

I've been trying to download a 300mb filefor 90 minutes. It's 20% done. Speedtest.net is lying (says 4mbps on 4g), or the site I'm downloading from is having server issues. Either way I want totry 21081 and see if it's the same speeds as 60681, even though I see in your signature that PRLs shouldn't affect DL speeds. All the users on here saying it helped them makes me wonder....
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
password is your msl #. I am assuming you are not rooted or you would most likely already know to put you're msl in. that being said...call sprint and ask for it. They do not typically give it up just cause you ask though. I saw someone say that you can call in and state that you are a Dev working on a new app and need your msl. I thought that sounded like a good one so I called up for the hell of out to see if it worked. Sure did.

Give it a shot.
[HTC EVO 3D] cousjcc:
Actually I am rooted, currently running SprintLover's rom with the stock kernel. I haven't gotten too crazy with modding/tweaking my phone yet, but just wanted full access. I never had to find/use the MSL to root it, but it was much easier than calling sprint. I just DL'd an MSL reader app from marketplace, read it, and uninstalled the app. I tested it and it worked but I'm going to wait to roll back the PRL until this file is done since this is the 2nd time I've tried to download it. The first time I stopped the DL because I was on with sprint tech support.

It's been downloading for 4.5 hours, and it's only at 70% of a 300mb file. This is so utterly ridiculous. I know it's not the site that the file is hosted on because I downloaded it using my home PC and it took like 5 minutes to DL the entire 300mb file. Even at 'slower' wireless speeds it shouldn't take longer than 20-30 minutes.

I don't know how they're doing it, but sprint is somehow letting people ping Speedtest.net for crazy speeds (I keep getting readings of 3.0-4.2 mbps down) yet severely restricting active download speeds for continuous downloads. Netflix works, but is choppy, and 6-7 hours to DL a 300meg file is just insane.

I'm praying that once I roll back the PRL later it will solve these issues like some are saying. Will update this post here if it does fix it, just to add confirmation to others' results.
[HTC EVO 3D] hdad2:
Maybe throttle is the wrong word/concept. Can the prl cause the phone to choose certain frequencies or bands? If so, perhaps sprint uses this to spread the network traffic around a bit. Not exactly throttling, but similar effect. Prevents bottlenecks.

Just thinking out loud here....
[HTC EVO 3D] cousjcc:
Well I am at a complete and utter loss here. I had high hopes based on others' reports here, but when using the 21081 PRL, my speeds for actually downloading a file haven't changed.

Speedtest.net is still showing high speeds, and interestingly enough it shows my "home" position as somewhere up near Jersey on the east coast rather than Texas with this PRL, and it even hit a speed of 6.8mbps down and 1.0mbps up on speedtest.net at one point. These speeds, however, are NOT translating into actual file-download speeds.

I dunno what Sprint's doing with their network but they'll be losing a customer of 11 years if it isn't fixed soon. I won't pay $150 a month for two lines of dial-up speeds.

Switching back to the 60681 PRL since the 21081 didn't seem to improve anything download-wise.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Yep 21081 and 60681 are the exact same files except for the version number of course.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
It tells your phone where to search for the pilot signal. The cell tower then handles which channel your phone uses. I have two EVDO channels near my work. One is 100 one is 75. It seems 100 is much slower. So for a test I deleted the channel 100 out of my PRL scan for my SID. Guess what? My phone still used channel 100 sometimes. Which makes perfect sense once you think about it. The tower handles the traffic to split the load across the 2 channels otherwise everyone would be on the same channel. Once my phone connected it told my phone to use channel 100 even though it is not in the EV scan.
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
My SID is 4145
[HTC EVO 3D] billyapd21:
PRL Stands for Peferred Roaming List. The only real difference anyone should see would be the speed difference when you are roaming. Most of the PRL's only roam on other networks 2G data. Certain PRL allow for 3G roaming. PRL 11115 is one othem. You really shouldn't see a speed difference in speed when you are not roaming. Hope this clears things up.
[HTC EVO 3D] Optimal Carnage:
Just spent 45 minutes in sprint chat. Trying to get am hlr reset the result was the csr rep trying to get me to do a full data wipe and my phone because there was no option under wireless & networks to toggle (NFC) Near Field Communication I was like you do know we're troubleshooting an HTC Evo 3d right? Idiot this phone didn't come with an NFC feature! Grrrr all I wanted was an hlr reset so I could roam on Verizon networks. Them he had me try the whole ##msl# thing and all the info was there so he said it magically reset and reprogrammed itself lmao idiots they hire I swear to God!
[HTC EVO 3D] creektrack:
I'm in Houston, but that's not the number it showed, I just switched back to 22081 and did a profile update and my sid/nid says 4139/65535... What kind of difference would it make to change those numbers? And could you tell me the correct ones?
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
4139 is kansas city. Last time I was in houston it was indeed listed as 4622. Are you sure you are looking at the debug screen right?
[HTC EVO 3D] creektrack:
##3282# is where I looked and that's what was listed...I switched it to 4622 but it didn't seem to change anything...
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
You can't change your SID. That is broadcasted by the towers. Only way to change it is by driving to another area or roaming :)
[HTC EVO 3D] |Jason8|:
I am running a VZW PRL currently. I live in Wisconsin, and by default, my SID was 4139, like the other poster. With this VZW PRL, I only connected via 1x... Changing the SID to Verizon's local SID via CDMA Workshop gave me full EvDO access...
[HTC EVO 3D] creektrack:
Well I changed it in my settings cuz it allowed me to, but like I said, it didn't make any noticeable difference, and with my wifes EVO 4G, hers is 4139 as well and I've only rooted and changed her ROM...
[HTC EVO 3D] Jcki4:
PRL 21081 is that a sprint PRL??
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
lol... its funny cuz i once posted up an explanation on how PRL works. it includes info on SID as well. also, it explained a little on how the updates work [and how the updates differ based on the SID of your listing. but of course, people all shunned it and talked trash..

"PEE ARR ELL IS NO FOR 3gz" trolls...

Anyways. I'll find that post and post it here for you guys.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Changing your home SID does nothing now a days. That was for the times when a provider had different rates for home usage and out of state usage. The phone would tell the user they were still on the network but not in the home area. The Home SID configuration will not stop or help you to connect via EVDO.

Yep, changing it does nothing.

I'd love to see this explanation.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
:D You have! And you commented on it. Here it is again.

PRL Stands for Preferred Roaming List. However, within PRLs are also certain frequency ranges and about 8 or so variants of settings. Within these, certain lines are called based on your SID [System Identification Code] which in fact can alter HOME based networks (read "Sprint" towers). I've noticed that almost all (if not all, can't remember for sure) the EVOs I have seen in my county (Dade County) have come pre-shipped with the wrong SID setting. The SID best for me would be 4151 since it is a Miami-based Sprint SID. The ones that I have played with [~15] have been on SIDs # 4135 and 4139, which are in different states. You can go to The Roaming Zone to find the nearest city for you. Granted, not all cities will be there, but choose the one that is most appropriate [by proximity] in your case. If it is picking up towers from a different place it will contact ABCD[in your area], when the PRL is supposed to be calling on FGHI[in your area]. But because it is pushing priorities to someplace hundreds of MILES away, it just uses a default setting to just pickup certain towers within your area. Do not misread this, I am not saying that because your SID is pointing at a Tennessee location, that you are getting a Tennessee tower, and thus getting a **** ping. When the tower called in the SID is too far, it will get a certain set of towers which are the 'default' towers in your physical location. 'Defaulted' settings override the PRLs priority. But if the SID were being properly called upon, it would pick the towers which Sprint has prioritized around you. The setting can be changes in your NV Data settings (##DATA# on Sense UI or *#*#DATA#*#* on AOSP dialers [edit:this aosp dialer code is from evo 4g, dont think will work on e3d] which support them. You can also use QPSTs interface under 'Service Programming' with ##DIAG#. It is imperative that you do NOT change the Home SID setting within the AMPS tab, it will kill 3G until you set it back to 0). This really won't affect many people though. I'd say a whopping 10% might get a slight boost. I can't see how anyone would get a negative effect though. Either method you use you will be needing your MSL code... Use MSL Grabber in market if you don't know it (root required).

(Only for QPST uers)

The setting is under the System tab in the Service Programming program. There is a little box that says Home SID/NID. Be sure to have all of them empty. The only one with anything in it should be the first one. Put your SID as you find appropriate from the link I gave. And make your NID 65535 (NID is the same for everyone since it is a wildcard). So since I live in Miami, my setting reads 4151/65535.

Yes, it's alot, and alot of it may be confusing due to elaborate breakdowns... But it's the best I can explain it. Later.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Ahh..yes. I remember that post.

My explanation of the home SID is posted above. It's another placebo effect when you change it.
[HTC EVO 3D] new and cofused:
I hv an EVO3d and I want to know if i can install a prl without using a computer. I've tried the ##775# thing and nothing happens. Someone flashed my phone to Ntelos and my prl is 22800 I'm lucky if i get data at all. And when I do It's super slow.
[HTC EVO 3D] osirus live:
what is the most recent prl to date???
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
21081

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[HTC EVO 3D] calebu2:
So if I live in Boston, MA I should change my SID from 4139 (Kansas City, MO) to 4106 (Boston, MA)?

Will this help get me back to the point where I could travel all the way from Boston to Cape Cod without roaming/dropping a call once? Or did Sprint go and turn off a bunch of towers in my area?
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
Nope. Changing the home sid doesn't change what cellular system you connect to.
[HTC EVO 3D] New EVO 3D:
My evo 3d asks for a password when i enter ##data# in edit mode. What password shpuld I use?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Assuming you're rooted, download "msl reader" from the market. That will give you the"password" you need
[HTC EVO 3D] cmdauria:
Your MSL number
[HTC EVO 3D] xdohboi:
edit: jk. went back a couple pages...

anybody have 21079?
[HTC EVO 3D] stealth919:
Non Rooted here...Did the ESP backdate then the ##775# and loaded the 21081 prl and yeah baby...back in business now. Man updates that are detrimental piss me off. Some body should be demoted over that one.
[HTC EVO 3D] jaserand:
Not sure about your area, but Sprint is actually planning on finishing their roll out earlier in 2013 instead of 2015. They will not be rolling out wimax anymore but will concentrate mainly on 4g LTE. They are combining their spectrum also which will include Nextel's, and eliminate Nextel all together. With the combined spectrum they will increase their footprint without even adding more towers by about 75%. Once their towers are all upgraded they will only need software upgrades to push out updates. I know they have several companies contracted to get this done quickly.

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I always thought it was a way for Sprint to handle the congestion with the influx of new subscribers over the last year.
[HTC EVO 3D] digiblur:
The towers handle which channels your phone uses while it is connected to the pilot channel. PRLs don't handle congestion, it just tells your phone which cell systems to use for roaming.

And before you ask, why does the PRL have channel scans? So your phone can find the pilot channel faster. Once it finds the pilot the tower takes over and tells the phone where the data and voice carrier to use.
[HTC EVO 3D] pantherdaddy:
Umm just download the msl reader from the market its free

SENT BY MY TRICKED OUT EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] cosine83:
After rolling back to 21081 I can't update to the latest PRL. Is there any way to force the PRL to update? Doing it through system updates doesn't work.
[HTC EVO 3D] THEGAMEPLAY94:
Are you rooted? If so download the prl you want, dial ##775# and press update prl and choose the prl u downloaded. Hit menu then commit. I don't have the newest one to post so u may have to search for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] miguelfp1:
try running a Profile Update before the PRL Update, it seems to sometimes help
[HTC EVO 3D] ycats:
Isn't 21081 the latest? I use 11115, have been for two months.
[HTC EVO 3D] scramer:
I am on 22083.
[HTC EVO 3D] ycats:
Does 22083 allow data roaming like 11115?
[HTC EVO 3D] Trina9:
So am I.
[HTC EVO 3D] ycats:
Can you guys post the latest PRL, 22083?
[HTC EVO 3D] scramer:
I will if someone will tell me how to extract it.
[HTC EVO 3D] AFuddyDuddy:
Updated to 20183 recently..... I have seen 0 change.

I haven't played around with different PRL, but I think I may give it a go.

Was told about roam control app the day it was yanked from the market. Can't find it anywhere now.
[HTC EVO 3D] EniGmA1987:
Anyone know how to go about manually updating the PRL from a file when running MIUI? ##775# doesnt work

So I couldnt figure out how so I did a Nandroid, flashed Infected Eternity 1.42, manually installed a Verizon PRL, flashed a Verizon SID with CDMA workshop, and then nandroided back to MIUI 11.25 :) Working calls, I can now call out at my apartment where I previously could not, and I have 3G data.
[HTC EVO 3D] ycats:
updated mine last night, went to 21083, so not sure where people are getting 22083 from...........noticed no change so went back to 11115.
[HTC EVO 3D] scramer:
Here is a picture...
[HTC EVO 3D] AFuddyDuddy:
Did 22083 make any noticable difference?

Sent from my Nocturnal E3D