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[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
Too much pride in their work.

I dev but give credit to everyone who does things I know go way above and beyond my abilities as a developer and are things that I use in my ROMs.

This probably wouldn't ever have happened if they just credited who made it, and left it at that.

Sad to see more of the bigger devs go, this makes me thankful that I avoid all conflict now and 'do my thing.'

The 3D forums are effing cutthroat compared to the OG EVO forums. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
I agree... I don't remember so much drama in the evo 4G forums. I never posted much but read and downloaded a lot. Seems this forum is far more volatile.
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
No kidding man... I just downloaded a lot and experimented in the OG EVO threads, commented only to help people, but everyone was in their own world developing and there wasn't any kanging bull**** or people getting so damn worked up over Android which many, MANY use simply because it is open source and the work of this entire community. I think eventually things will simmer down in dev vs dev situations as well as dev vs mod situations, etc. I hope so anyways. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
I was caught up in some bull**** and he banned me after I donated over 70 bucks. I was one of the first people on his site and stayed there for five months (before he was big) . We are cool now but he still hasn't let me back in and its been six months. I guess I didn't pay enough for my roms.
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
That's some ****. Seriously. I'm happy to see people donate any money period, but over $70? Damn dude.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Cotdamn. If I donated that much, they better name the ROM after me and include my bio and pic in software info.

Free Dirk!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] RVDigital:
I don't always type "LOL", but when I do, it's because I did.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
During the first few months of Infectedroms.com, they wouldnt have enough to keep the site going and asked for donations. Being one of the original members I wanted to keep the site up so it was a 20 here and a 20 there... I was dedicated to it (they had a cool chatbox) and loved the roms. But then the atmosphere of the site changed, and only donators could access beta's. The $$ goal on the site when from a monthly $100 to $500. It became more about money and members like Damage_Them were starting to get pissed that they couldnt put in simple requests (the guy only wanted a Green theme instead of Blue) and were banned for "arguing" their point. I was even a mod at one point, but didnt agree with the business model so I was "demoted". That led to me being pissed, saying some **** I shouldnt have and being banned as well defending the other members. and thats what I got for my $70 bucks.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Lmao

Free Dirk!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Then XxXxXxXsomeomeXxXxXxX came back and lied to XDA about ever making the betas accessible only to the donators. I remember. Why do so many other people forget?

Sent from my Evo³d
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Well I'm glad he's back but still sad its gotten to the point like now where he won't post up the Zeus mod port they did because of all the bs surrounding it. I its sad to see the devs fight each other when in reality we all should be sharing everything.

If you don't get credit for something ported or modified so be it. It sucks it happens but it isn't the end of the world and deff isn't worth fighting and such over esp between highly respected devs.

The way I see it is less the person is making money off your mod or you are trying to make money off your mod and someone else gives it for free taking credit for it, then it's just not worth the arguing.

Just sad it got to the point that it made a dev not want to include a mod bc it wasn't worth the drama behined it. We shouldn't be fighting here at all guys, work together and take everyone(least the oldschool or recognized devs) for their word, instead of trying to cause drama over it.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Ugh... I always hated that practice. Glad its not in effect here.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
The donators getting better access shouldn't be an issue as its an easy way to limit the # ppl who get it and helps the dev work out bug reports easier, and also give back to the people that support them.

Where's if they posted em to all then they would have to sift through hundreds of the reports and likely miss a lot of bugs.

Long as rims r released it shouldn't matter.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
It's the developers' work, and charging money for advanced access to that work is ABSOLUTELY within their rights, of course. However, that system/"business model" is DEFINITELY off-limits on XDA, as far as maintaining a thread here with ROM builds where that practice is in effect.

My problem with the whole thing wasn't THAT they charged, it was about the fact that they wouldn't own up to the fact that they DID charge.

They wanted to reap the benefit of exposure from a 1000+ page thread on XDA, and parlay that into generation of more $$ on their personal website.

*That was the real issue.

Sent from my Evo³d
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
Thanks MAZOOK but it is here. When you link to that "special" rom advertised here and you have to sign up with that other site/gain access (which still happens!) then get restricted due to not being a donator...

I used to make Touch Pro roms and never asked for a dollar!
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
Oh I know first hand that unless you "knew" someone, you werent getting betas. I used to hand them out like cookies because I was a donator and didnt think it was right to withhold from "contributors". They arent all trolls, some just dont have $$ to spare..
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Ugh if they are here and linked in the thread all it takes is reporting the post/thread to the mods.

The more I think about it linking to personal website to do rom is against rules alone no? I mean you'd be using XDA to profit from clicks on your website in that sense even if it didn't req registration.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
ok... enough dancing around..

which Rom are you talking about? :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
that would be a huge nut to crack... you figure each phone has on average 5-10 developers X #of phones/tablets = a whole lot of linking.

Thats an uphill battle that would only hurt the users in the end.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
there are plenty

XxXVirusXxX uses InfectedRoms.com

theres MikMik

Vaelpak

Im sure there are more but thats just off the top of my head..

All have free registration, the question is if there are "perks" for donators.

Donators is a fancy way of saying PAID. If they called it that I would be fine but then they would be in violation for "selling" software that wasnt theirs...
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
To be fair, though, after XxXxXhisXxXxX thread got locked over the issue, soon after, he officially set himself up with the Synergy team, who were/are a lot more legitimate. Whatever practices they may still have at Infectedroms.com can easily be defenfed, because their work is now on a public GIT.

(I don't know for sure, because I don't/won't run Synergy, but I think that's correct.)

Sent from my Evo³d

Edit: @Nutzy, your listed occupation on XDA makes perfect (literally perfect) sense. Awesomeness.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Im still stuck on you donating $70 bucks. That ROM had better came with a blowjob.

Free Dirk!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Wow! That's some heavy ****! I missed all that drama in the evo 4g forums. I'm a Cyanogenmod fan so I guess that's how I missed it.

Not in the 3d forums.... I have my finger on the pulse over here. ;)

I might have a borderline addiction to xda now. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
You won't run synergy? Why not? Just wondering why you wouldn't at least try it?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Preference, well it applies to me with Synergy.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
What I'm baffled over, is how an insignificant website manages to rack up a $500 bill every month that they want the users to cover.

Super fail.

While donating is a great way to show your support; with me it will never be required or expected. However, it is a nice gesture that members of the community do.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Hey! You totally didn't answer my question about the dualcore update 4a. :p

Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Woops, I totally lost that post. To derail the thread for a sec:

the only thing the a revision does different is remove A2SD support since that's where I figured the majority of issues happened. :P
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Thank you sir!. Lol

OK. Back on topic
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
and thats why I respect you X100
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
not even a reach-around :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Nutzy:
Holy hell I forgot about that! Thanks! Its been 3 years since I last updated it but as true today as when I put it there!
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
DUDE do you ever SHUT UP about this you never list the part where you had a conversation about killing my web site and posting a picture of my child off of my facebook anybody would ban you for that so shut up!! and you didn't pay me 70 for A rom you flashed like 100 and did i once ask you to give me anythign NOOOO
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
I never understand why i get pinned for this ALLLLLLLL the top devs do this FRSH, DAMAGELESS, MYN, just to list a few and as for the donation only nightlys for synergy evo that wasn't even my doing I posted it on my site and got flammed by one of the other devs not to mention any names ???
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Let me try to translate this.

Ok, I think I've got it.....

(Please pardon the 'exactness' of meaning I may use in the next few paragraphs, as I neither want to mince words, nor be misunderstood...

Thank you:) )

All the 'top devs' do what, Virus?

What exactly do they do that you're doing as well? Because in the post you just quoted, I mentioned someone lying about the fact that donators had exclusive access to beta builds...

Is THAT what "all the top devs" do? The lying part? Because I'd bet some of those guys might actually disagree with you.

If the lying part isn't what you were referring to, then you can only mean that they 'use a similar donation structure in their sites as I do in mine'.

I mean, logically, that's the only other option available.

If THAT'S what you were referring to, then how can you say now that it's OK, because "all the top devs do this", when in the EVO4G thread you EMPHATICALLY stated that you didn't provide exclusive access to donators?

Which is it, Virus? I'm curious....

*You can't have it both ways.

*To adamantly state that something never happened (in your own thread), and then come in here with the rationalization that "all the 'top devs' do it" makes absolutely no sense, and I, for one, consider that an insult to my intelligence.

BTW, Felacio, to answer your earlier question:

THIS is why I don't run Synergy.

Sent from my Evo³d
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
I'm saying that people who donate get extra perks like trying roms before the masses get them and what is the huge deal with getting a few extra bucks for working all the time??? I put in well over 60 hrs a week on these roms to make like 80 a week at most you do the math I'm not in it for the money it just helps with bills and i enjoy making roms so it works. And dude i have always given people betas if they just asked even if they didn't donate I just send out a email to the people who donate because i get their email addy from paypal. and dude nobody cares if you use the rom or not thats your choice its there for people who want it. Such trivial people like you drive me nutz on here
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Dude.... NUTZY. You actually do that?

If so that's messed up man. I would definitely say that is crossing a line.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
There wouldn't be anything wrong with it, except:

You use XDA to drive traffic to a personal website, and,whether you see it or not, 'granting advance access' to donators is the same thing as 'charging' people for your ROM.

That alone is your prerogative: take all the donations you can get for your work, and, on that note: not once do I want anyone to think that you don't 'work hard' at what you do.

You just shouldn't solicit a cash-driven website on XDA. It's against the rules, and it goes against the whole idea of an open-sourced software Forum.

Anyone can just PM you for a beta?

I remember seeing all the complaints of "I sent a message, no reply... Anyone got a link?"

Once again, that's just kind of insulting.

*Anyone can simply 'not reply' to an email or a personal message.... And just explain it away, by saying "I was so busy", or "I never saw it".

Kind of like I'm doing right now...

No, I have no real desire to "hit you up on Gtalk."

"I'm so busy."

"I never saw the PM."

Want a link to my Paypal?

Donators get advanced access to my conversations.

Sent from my Evo³d
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
This thread is going to get locked down like Alcatraz...

I'm a senior in high school and I feel it's necessary to point out that I see more fighting on here than in my school. Teenage girls argue less than this lmao.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Yeah. Never meant for fighting or name calling or anything. I just wanted some clarification on what went down. Should have locked it when his threads came back up...

As soon as I get to my computer I think ill just lock this down.
[HTC EVO 3D] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
It's pretty unfortunate that some feel the need to argue about an argument even when the original argument isn't being argued about anymore.

If those who got a bit heated over this could step back, realize that every one of us are people behind our avatars, then perhaps civility would have been a bit more paramount in this conversation. If you have a specific issue with someone else, please communicate in private. But if that cannot be done, then send myself or another mod a PM. We'll always do whatever we can to help out.

Remember we are all here for the same basic reasons. Those reasons don't include disrespecting one another.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
And ......

I want to quickly and personally apologize to you felacio, for filling your thread with all this HS drama, which empiire so rightfully related it to. The earlier conversation segued from one thing to another, and then it became a one-on-one between me and a dev. Sorry for that.

And you're both, right, this'll probably all get pulled, by a mod, or of course, after a request by you, felacio.... after all it's your thread in the first place....

Sorry I let myself get sucked into that convo on your thread, bro. I hope we can still be cool.

Sent from my Evo³d
[HTC EVO 3D] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Thanks. It's good to see ownership being taken here. I'll leave this open for now, just in case anyone else would like to reply with any other positive thoughts. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Hey man, no worries at all. understandable how things get heated. I just want to make sure things don't go south again ya know? We're cool. :D

I wanna apologize to Virus too, I use Synergy and I admire your work and this thread just went into a biased territory from someone commenting here. I would like to know about the whole posting pics of your kid from your facebook page, that's pretty intriguing. But I know it will all get out of hand, so it's time to close this.

See you on the flip side!
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
Closed at the request of the OP.

Can't blame him to be honest....it's the same few forums each time that get ruined by idiot trolls.
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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] alexfos:
fixed that on to 7712 booted up red windows loding with dots now stuck with black screen with batt icon and time and the zune is at 9 0f 9...is this part of the 7712 update process??
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] chrisrj28:
Try taking out your sdcard and doing a hard reset
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] alexfos:
can i do that i wont brick or would i have to start over the 7712 update process..

becuase zune is a 9 of 9 completing updates still and the phone booted with black screen with batt icon an time.. i it safe or do u know for sure thats not a process in updating sorry ofr all the questions just want to be sure..thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] alexfos:
sorry wnet ahead and did it btw works now booting mango rtm hopes it works out thanks alot:cool:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tremium86:
Hello,

I got problems with my 3G connectivity. I've read this topic also:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1239777

And manually selected my provider (Telfort).

But, my WiFi connection is also bad too. Sometimes it stops giving internet too. So I have to reconnect to the WiFi access point.

Beside that, When is coming 2.3.4 update to The Netherlands ?

Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] ursoouindio:
Hello Defy fellows!

I'm new here and to all Android ROM flashing thing. I own a Defy for a couple of weeks now, it runs Android Éclair and I'm looking forward to put on a nicer ROM on it. It is my first Android smartphone, I've come from a sad Symbian 2.3 Nokia.

So: I'm not familiar with any of the ROMs that lots of users here have been playing around and I believe that there could be really interesting inputs for the interested who are new to those developments.

I've been reading on the procedures and what's involved to flash new ROMs to the Defy and I couldn't help to notice that there are quite a few custom ROMs available.

I wonder which ones are the most stable and reliable. Also, which ones have the best performance and deliver higher battery autonomy. I would not like much experimental things, but mostly one with less bugs and problems, to carry on with it and don't bother for a while, until there is a major update or something.

I will use it here on Brazil and I expect it to not lose any functionality regarding GSM, 3G and GPS. I don't know exactly what is involved on this aspect and what are the limitations but I can say to you that my network uses 850 and 2100 MHz for 3G and 1800 MHz for GSM.

It should also support portuguese, even that there's just the spelling dictionary.

I'm sorry if there are dumb questions above, I simply don't know what can be a problem if I change the native ROM to a customized/tweaked one.

I believe that there are patches to do almost anything, but I would like to not need to worry about how to fix issues on my phone's system...

At first, I am tempted to get the main CM7 ROM but I'm creating this thread really to explore the differences and comparisons among the available options.

I am also strongly considering undervolting/overclocking the CPU :)

Looking forward to your thoughts!

Regards!

BTW: my Defy has Bayer Green lenses!
[Defy Android Development] remuseu:
bayer is red lense :)

SOC is green
[Defy Android Development] ursoouindio:
looking against the light I see green and yellow shinning... and Catlog reports is as being Bayer.

But that's ok, I wont rely that much on which color it seems to me without having something different on my other hand to compare with.
[Defy Android Development] romuleta:
So, you have Bayer Yellow lens.
[Defy Android Development] ursoouindio:
Well, thanks...

I didn't even know that there were a third color for the lenses....

But I think that isn't important , its all about the module, Bayer or SOC.
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
i will recomend you to use ms2ginger... it's a fully operational rom with gingerbread + motoblur, can record at 720p (HD), it's fast and have dlna option to share things with pc, laptops and LED tv.... ohh, it's have support for portuguese language too :)
[Defy Android Development] dedraks:
MS2Ginger is a very nice ROM. It's my current ROM.
[Defy Android Development] slph:
As I see, here two common options for you:

I will vote for Barebones Froyo,

-stable Froyo, have no bugs

-without Blur

-best battery (1-2% per night, 2-3 days of average using 3g

-you can overclock it with bootmenu preinstaled

-as good bonus, u'll have many other little things which will make your every day use more enjoyable (720p playing, widescreen recording etc)

CM7 - bleeding edge, you'll have latest software, and latest bugs.

Actually, for me, CM7 give no advantage in every day use.

Someone will say perfomance, but its only syntetic tests (cheating), you'll have no real improvments, cuz hardware stays same.
[Defy Android Development] zannyuk:
You've given me an idea.

Would it be useful if I made a spreadsheet/googledoc listing all available roms which os they using, stable, major bugs etc?
[Defy Android Development] kimagure01:
what is ms2ginger?
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
check yourself....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
[Defy Android Development] kevin_diu:
If u need better battery life(in stand by mode) u must use Barebones froyo ROM.

If u need better performance u can consider using WIUI or cm7.

If u need more new feature u can use cm7.

If u need more moto staff u can use ms2ginger.

For me I am using WIUI and i would say it is a great rom if u like miui's interface and the battery life is good for me(1-2 days) also I don't need new features except crystal talk plus . :( But I guess MIUI's guys will be add it soon.
[Defy Android Development] ursoouindio:
My friends, thanks for the replies so far!

Can you enlighten me on what are these tweaks that gets better performance for CM7 over barebones?

As I understood, ms2ginger has the motoblur thing, right? I don't care much about it and I think that I probably would be happier without it as I believe it impacts considerably on the overall performance.

Comparing CM7 and MIUI, which are the most elementary differences?

Sorry for the lots of questions, but there it is hard to someone new keep track on all those developments.
[Defy Android Development] johanlh:
Don't forget to give a try to MS2Ginger, it's a very good ROM and it's in RC2 phase. It has very good battery perfomance and also gives you 720p recording and the new motoblur. Right now it's the ROM I am using and I feel very good with it.
[Defy Android Development] salimbest83:
miui

why no one say something bout MIUI?

i've been using it since i got my Defy.

and so far, its a great ROM and nice also.

and good to showoff to iPhone fag ;)
[Defy Android Development] kevin_diu:
CM7 have no moto staff that improve performance also gingerbread have a better performance. I guess CM7's developers optimized drivers to get much better performance over CM7. MIUI is base on CM7 so there are no much difference of performance. The differences of CM7 and MIUI is they use the different shell(you can read as UI) and also MIUI doesn't use the latest source of CM7 so it may have more bugs and do not have some newest features. I perfer WIUI (mod of MIUI) because it is stable and it's easy to use :D