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[Motorola Photon 4G] coldblooded79:
I love heath, especially in my blizzards from the dairy queen.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Yogi3:
I meant health...

No need to be a smart 277...

I'm sure I'm not the onlyone that has had auto correct mess up what you actually mean...
[Droid Incredible General] wildstang83:
Source: Huffington Post

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As Reuters reports and Apple has confirmed, Apple CEO Steve Jobs is stepping down from his leadership position. Apple's Board of Directors has named Tim Cook the company's new CEO. Jobs has been elected Chairman of the Board.

"I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you," Jobs wrote in his resignation letter.

Below is Apple's official press release on the announcement (via Business Wire):

The Wall Street Journal published a letter from Steve Jobs announcing his resignation:

PRESS RELEASE: Letter from Steve Jobs

According to Reuters, Apple shares fell following the announcement.
[Droid Incredible General] godsmacked4653:
Hopefully I won't get shunned by the community for this, but I'm actually a little disappointed.

I do really like Apple products, and I think without Jobs, they're going to become less of a competitor in the future. Less competition can make Android handset makers lazy because they aren't trying to steal the iPhone business.

And it's definitely going to hurt the tablet market. I like some of the newer tablets, but IMO, the iPad is still the best available right now. And if the iPad slows down, the tablets won't be in a hurry to catch up.

Maybe I'll be wrong. And maybe you guys won't hate me for that rant. ;)
[Droid Incredible General] wildstang83:
Nope, I agree. If I had a choice I would go with the iPad.

I think he was just done. Everyone gets burned out eventually. We're better for what he brought us. Honestly I'm a little sad now for the Mac world.
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
Jobs is a -EDIT- socialist corporate dictator in the stylings of a 1939-1945 German politician or a Stalin-era Soviet autocrat. I'm quite certain he hasn't killed anyone or tried to exterminate anything... except the competition, through any means possible.
[Droid Incredible General] POQbum:
Yeah he has pancreatic cancer so it's not exactly like he's tired of it, he's not healthy enough and probably some days unable to think at full capacity because of treatments.

Obvious stupidity right there.

Apple has brought some amazing products and though I don't agree with the way they handle control over their products they still were and are pioneers in the portable MP3 player, smartphone and tablet world.
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
No, he is a very very wealthy business man. Are you even old enough to know the true meaning of that word? Thats pretty offensive to thtow that around, you look like a complete idiot.

If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!
[Droid Incredible General] godsmacked4653:
+1 on that. I prefer Android, (obviously) but Apple started the non-business smartphone thing which opened up the market for Android.

The control thing is also an issue with me, but you can't argue with results. Apple is successful and tons of people use their stuff. They're obviously doing something right.
[Droid Incredible General] DustinBooyah:
That blows man.

At least he'll have a more hands-on connection with the board of directors though.
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
I'm old enough to remember what it was like to screw around on computers with dual 5.25 drives and monochrome screens, as well as the days Jobs was flying the Jolly Rodger over the headquarters of Apple. He's NOT an electronics innovator, he never was! Waz was the innovator! He screwed around with some code and got Apple where it is today though an overwhelmingly adversarial mode of management and leadership. I remember the Apple II... and do you know why? Because my dad was a developer on Unix platforms most of my life and the machines I played with at home as a kid blew those heaps of crap out of the water. Machines like the Leading Edge and the Compaq Deskpro series of 286 and 386 machines. Am I the ONLY one that knows where the GUI for the Mac came from??? It's not like Apple invented it! They basically STOLE it! Not that Gates is a whole lot better, but gimme a break people! Jobs is quite possibly the most cut-throat, aggressive man to ever rise to corporate power!

Does he have a vision? Yup. Is he successful? Sure is. Would I EVER buy an Apple product? Absolutely not. I don't like the philosophy of Steve Jobs. I don't like his management. I don't like his character. I don't like his history. I don't like the path he's led computing down in many regards. I don't like his belief in the "walled garden" user experience. If someone wants to argue Jobs hasn't run Apple as a dictator, you have NO legs to stand on. Through sheer force of personality, that man has pitted people against people like pit bulls in a dog fight. He's put his vision and his philosophies ahead of even the good of that company, which is how his ass got tossed the first time before he founded NeXT, which would certainly have gone belly up if not for a buy-out from Apple!

As for the fool who called my likening him to a NAZI stupid, consider that Jobs is WIDELY regarded as a man who'd sell his own mother to get the next iPhone out of development. He's a political and organizational socialist, in much the same style as NAZI and Soviet leadership. His cult of personality fits right in with them too. He's got this vision of an Apple world, and an Apple experience, but I can't see where he's ever given a damn about people's lives. The guy is only alive today because he bought his way onto every organ transplant list in the United States to get his liver!

Hate on me all you want, but I'm right. I don't like the guy. I've just explained why. If you've got a problem with this, do the RIGHT thing and PM me. Don't turn this into some flame war. I won't be back to this thread to be tempted.
[Droid Incredible General] SlimSnoopOS:
Wow to both the previous comment and Steve Jobs stepping down.
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
well thats a harsh comment personally i like apple products and ios would i buy one instead of an android device? probably why? because android basically came from ios if you look at android and ios and compare how theyve grown everytime ios grows android seems to grow also there would be no android without ios without ios we would still be on cupcacke....what jobs has done with apple is awesome hopefully him backing down doesnt effect their products.
[Droid Incredible General] Mattix724:
That's quite a surprise for the man that changed the way we saw the computer, literally.
[Droid Incredible General] wildstang83:
I like Apple products because of two things:

1. It's more techno gadgetry to play with.

2. Their shiny.
[Droid Incredible General] godsmacked4653:
There are definitely some valid points there. There are several fallacies, too.

Was Jobs an overbearing ****? Probably. In a social settings, that's terrible. In a business setting? It's genius.

Apple's "walled garden" creates an unparalleled experience for the consumer. Set yourself up with a nice Mac, an iPhone and an iPad, and see how easy it is to stream media to every room in your house, your TV, etc. On top of that, everything in uniform and is actually held to, if nothing else, an aesthetic standard. The apps are interface are very high quality and 99% work just as they should, all the time. I, for one, am very envious of that.

My Incredible doesn't play nice with Windows all the time. Sometimes I download what sounds like a really cool app, only to find out the interface sucks or it crashes all the time because the developer hasn't updated it for Gingerbread. I can't expect my phone to stay updated, because technology moves incredibly fast and Verizon is greedy and holds out on said updates, as we've all seen recently here. With an Apple product? I'll get the same update as everyone else, the day it comes out, and it won't involve Verizon forcing me to have Slacker radio installed on my phone.

Google (and Microsoft, Nokia, whoever) can try as hard as they want to stomp out that "walled garden," but that simplicity and efficiency is totally unmatched on any other platform. For the average, not-so-tech-savvy user, (parents, girlfriends, that one dumb friend) putting them in a walled garden is genius. They can't break anything.

Personally, I think that's what Steve Jobs is leaving behind; an amazing marketing strategy and a fully realized vision of a simplified automation of technology aiding the average person in their everyday life. Not "being a big mean Nazi at the head of a company."

PS.

Just for reference, I love my Incredible, I had a Moto Droid before it, and my next phone will hopefully be an EVO 3D. I use Google Music and Banshee, and I dual-boot Win7 and Ubuntu. I'll probably have a Google TV by the end of the year. I am by no means an Apple fanboy. Don't even have an iPod. I'm just calling it how I see it.

/rant

Edit: I would like to add in wildstang's excellent point.

Apple products are shiny. :)
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
ok..... I was tempted and came back.

I will agree with every point you just made. I don't see how it conflicts with anything I said, either. And yeah.... they sure are shiny!

That said, the guy really did run the place into the ground before he was expelled. He's effectively destroyed Apple as a legitimate computer company today. Anything running OSX is obsolete before it hits the shelves. OSX, itself, is obsolete and poorly maintained. Apple USED to be something to lust over in computers, and then they got wierder, and weirder and more expensive, and the walls of that garden nearly crushed them. I think the cold hard reality is that their stuff is overpriced for what you get, it's becoming more a pain in the ass to use, ESPECIALLY if you don't want to become "one with the Steve Jobs way", and if they continue down a path of eco-system isolation, you're going to eventually see an Apple that looks like it did in the G4 era. And nobody ever thought that giant would go bust 5 or 6 years before that! ....they're already going down the road of weird proprietary connectors again! I think he's been lucky as much as "visionary".
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
He ran it into the ground?

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-has-more-cash-on-hand-than-the-us-government-2011-7 then how do they have more money than the federal government? That isnt running it to the grou.d.

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[Droid Incredible General] POQbum:
Corporations and socialism don't mix.

You don't know what socialism actually means. To help you along with your education, here's the definition:

Socialism - an economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively

You can dislike somebody without stooping to calling them a Nazi or socialist, especially when they don't carry any of those traits- and in this case the total opposite traits. Apple is as capitalistic as they come.

// After already going back and forth with you in a couple of threads before, I'm tired of it. So I won't reply to whatever rebuttal you have, no matter how offensive, pretentious or ill-informed it is.

I hope Steve Jobs gets better and people like you educate themselves.
[Droid Incredible General] godsmacked4653:
I was actually going to point this out. Apple is an extremely wealthy company.

Not sure how everything Apple makes is "obsolete as soon as it hits the shelves," either. Their retina display is head and shoulders above nearly every other handset screen available. OS X is more or less leading in terms of desktop interface. Windows and even some Linux distros are copying the OS X desktop. And the iPad still pretty much beats every other tablet by miles.
[Droid Incredible General] ooofest:
The original iPad was all about proprietary connectors, as are most of their portables. But, the marketplace supports their interfaces rather robustly.

Their Macs have all sorts of interfaces and are again industry-supported to a wide degree.

You're offering zombie Apple-hating points that have been spouted for many years, yet Apple's been doing generally quite well for some time.

Although, it seems you don't even know the difference between a German Nazi (i.e., National Socialist German Workers) Party and actual socialism. "Socialist" was placed in the Nazi Party name to lure in the real socialists (who were considered enemies of the party's goals), if I recall correctly.

So, perhaps I should suspect your similarly "off" assertions about Apple's successes and Steve Jobs role, as well.

And, I don't even like Apple products.

- ooofest
[Droid Incredible General] *Madmoose*:
I'm not a fan of Apple products either, but from a competition standpoint, it's a necessary evil. The more competition, the better for the consumer. But from a business standpoint they just aren't open enough to be compatible with a corporate windows network.
[Droid Incredible General] ejdavis72:
I agree with most of your points on this. I don't wish ill on Steve Jobs at all, but the way he runs things is just too much for me. I'm sure that someone who doesn't know any better would enjoy the "walled garden" because of it's simplicity, functionality, and dependability but I like living life without walls or having someone tell me what I can or cannot do with my phone or computer.
[Droid Incredible General] bigsapz:
who cares. F apple

Sent from my 2.3.5 Incredible Obsession
[Droid Incredible General] GnatGoSplat:
I don't think you know what socialism means. Everything about Jobs screams capitalism at its best (or worst, depending on your point of view).

Looks to me you just want to associate Jobs with an adjective that's considered strongly negative by most, which is completely understandable, but "socialist" isn't the appropriate word since Jobs has been very successful in taking advantage of capitalism and all it has to offer.

He is (or was) undoubtedly a shrewd businessman who would sell anyone out to get ahead. I have never cared for him personally, stories I've read about him put him in a poor light. However, I think Apple would not be the innovative company they are today without him. I do feel bad for him, I've seen people suffer with cancer and it's extremely sad and horrifying. Judging by how frail he looks now, I predict he's terminally ill and doesn't have long. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
[Droid Incredible General] zman0125:
This is great news!
[Droid Incredible General] davwman:
I had to do it
[Droid Incredible General] Demonyc:
I laughed SO hard...
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
If what you say is so true, how do you explain the abject failure and Jobs driving Apple straight into the ground with his "vision" and the G3 an G4 lines of machines?

As for IBM, they USED to do things that way, until some good ol' boys from the Lone Star schooled them. Apple seems to be following in their footsteps and it seems I'm the only one who sees it.

Sorry, but you're ignoring a LOT of facts here. There's virtually nothing new in history, but just history repeating itself. The Apple way failed once. It will fail again. Pretty damn simple.
[Droid Incredible General] ooofest:
As I offered you seem to think that natural downs don't come with the ups for this business area - yet, few success stories in this industry come with perfect records. Jobs never tanked Apple and frankly turned them around most recently, when they needed it most. I'm not enamored of him or Apple for various reasons, but do accept where their path has finally brought them and why that's happened - I cannot deny Jobs was the primary driver through most of their tremendous growth periods.

Lots of folks want to say Apple will fail "again", as if past downturns were drastic enough to warrant death sentences. History shows that wasn't the case, really, and that such expectations are more projection of personal feelings about the company than about the market/industry, I feel.

I was a huge OS/2 supporter for the longest time - didn't matter how much I could claim high ground compared to 95, 2000, NT, etc. . . it lost for business reasons, not so much technical ones. Business reasons are why Apple is so successful today. Perhaps consider that angle.

- ooofest
[Droid Incredible General] wildstang83:
Apple must not be doing to bad. Here in Arkansas we just had a grand opening for the first official Apple Store today. Was a huge event with long lines according to the local news.
[Droid Incredible General] POQbum:
well I have to give them props in having their stores look so cool, but still kind of weird if you think about it. There aren't microsoft stores or samsung stores even though both have many more products. I think it all goes into the whole name brand thing
[Droid Incredible General] wildstang83:
You wouldn't have caught me there. I just thought it was interesting when I heard about it on the news. Until today Arkansas was an Apple Store free state.
[Droid Incredible General] godsmacked4653:
IMO, I think you don't have Microsoft and Samsung stores because they technically don't have as many products as Apple.

Sure, Microsoft makes Windows, which is loaded on any new PC you buy. But who made the PC? HP, Samsung, Gateway, etc. Microsoft doesn't make many (if any) peripherals, either.

You don't really see those stores anymore because of how diverse the PC market is for the demographic that Apple stores are aimed at. Acer, Samsung, Dell, Gateway, HP, Toshiba.. the list goes on and on. They all make very comparable computers at around the same price, so I don't think they would be able to support themselves.

I believe there are Alienware retail stores, however. But that's because they're like Apple; aimed at a specific demographic with much less direct competition.

Just my off topic two cents.
[Droid Incredible General] CrazyJek:
"Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world, along with OS X, iLife, iWork and professional software. Apple leads the digital music revolution with its iPods and iTunes online store. Apple has reinvented the mobile phone with its revolutionary iPhone and App Store, and has recently introduced iPad 2 which is defining the future of mobile media and computing devices."

LOL

Apple "reinvented" all the tech they have now. Its all been done before. And when someone tries to "reinvent" something too, Apple sues them without hesitation.

I hate Apple. Yea sure their "walled garden" approach is great for not-so-tech-savvy people but it also severely limits their so called innovation when only one person (or a handful of people) are able to build off of the OS. AND it also makes these not-so-tech-savvy people remain not-so-tech-savvy. Its stupid and useless. Sure all their products stream flawlessly together but again you HAVE TO BUY ALL things from them, including wires and ****. Why limit yourself?

Sure you can have your old iPhone get the new iOS software, but its causes lots of problems sometimes. I have two friends that got updates and every time they did, their phone ran worse.

And AMOLED > Retina Display.

And Apple stole Palm ideas. And Microsoft and Samsung/HP Compaq did it first. Wow, Apple took their phone software and put it onto a "Slate" kind of device. Thus iPad is born. That + their superior marketing = the only reason they are where they are now.
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
Finally! I'm not the only one who sees the light!

It's really weird to run into people who are so blinded by the bright lights of Apple, so much so they can't seem to see anything else... like reality. The digital music revolution was well on it's way before iPods or iTunes existed. Their computers have ALWAYS sucked for what you pay, but they are an easy solution to certain problems not-so-technical folks have, like artsy-fartsy types. And OSX? Someone wants to brag about OSX??? If I wanted so little functionality I'd roll on back to Window 2000.

Unlike what the ad campaign would have you believe, Apple crap doesn't "just work". If it did, you could scour the internet for support sites and find none... but there's plenty of them! They make phones you can only hold a certain way, their former CEO makes an ass of himself by trying to humiliate Canadians... who in turn DO humiliate him. There's iPods with swelling and exploding batteries. There's iPads that cost twice as much and do half as much as my ASUS laptop. They're computer line is an over-priced joke; thin little packages with the SAME crap inside Dell will sell you for half the price and with Windows, an unquestionable advantage over OSX. You have to send them back to the factory for a new battery!!! WTF??? THAT is WAY past the stupid line. That, and the way their website addresses people, makes me think Apple users should be wearing those hockey helmets with the Lexan face shields and led around by people who took them to a public place on a short bus.

If my friend, who smoked crack cocaine for 6 years, can figure out a BlackBerry, Windows 7, and Android, I'm not sure who the veggies are who need computing dumbed down to Apple level.
[Droid Incredible General] dmeadows013:
I have both a Mac and a PC, and my Mac is 10x faster than my PC. Granted, probably because my PC is ~7 years old, but still. Also, if my PC is messed up and can't work for developing, I can't just take it in to the HP store. I have to sit on HP support for hours and wait until they help me(This has happened several times). However, if my Mac needs support, I just take it down to the Apple store and they're happy to help. I am in no way hating on PC's, as I love my Vista/Ubuntu setup (Not so much the Vista part, but that will change when Win8 comes out)

Just my thoughts.
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
I'm not sure I've ever seen an Apple store. There's a place called Abacus II that does only Apple a few miles from me. Thinking back, I can't recall any town I've ever lived in or worked in that had an Apple store. That would include, in Michigan, Grayling, Gaylord, Traverse City. In OH, Toledo area. And in FL, Merritt Island, Cocoa, Cape Canaveral. PC's are great because you don't NEED an HP or Dell guy. ANYONE can work on a PC. It's not that specialized, which drives price WAY down.
[Droid Incredible General] AJGO23:
+1 the nearest Apple store is a good 5 hour drive away in Atlanta, GA.... And I'm pretty sure you can find the answer to anything on Google if your PC is giving you trouble.

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[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
The BIG question in my head at the moment is why did Jobs feel a need to put Apple on the same course as SCO before they finally got their asses handed to them? That's a hell of a legacy to leave behind.
[Droid Incredible General] JeramyEggs:
Did any of you catch the fiasco brewing with the SFPD, and Apple? I don't wish harm to anyone, but the company that pulls this stuff?
[Droid Incredible General] AJGO23:
I saw that... First they alter some of the pictures of Samsung's

Galaxy line of phones and their 10.1 Tab and now this. That's pretty shady imo.

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[Droid Incredible General] CrazyJek:
Apple won't fall anytime soon I dont think simply because of loyal fanboys and the sheer amount of merchandise they currently sell. However, their marketshare is going to plummet if tthey don't stop this innovative dictatorship.

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