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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kcchik:
Thanks for your suggestion, however i have tried this APP, still it cannot the voice from the opposite side, but it's loud and clear on my side.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] saugatdb:
:( though it works for me while running on mini pro. even one of my friend uses it one his samsung galaxy. i hope you downloaded this one
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Jovovus:
The latest version (1.0.8c) creates unreadable 3gp files (at least at my device). So i could not check this app. Currently I have found "CallRecorder S" stably writes both ways but, unfortunately, from a microphone. It is strange but other side sounds even better than my voice.

I am still looking for the application allows to record from the line at SE Xp Mini pro.

I understand that it can be useless in case of absence proper driver in the kernel, but I have not found any info that it is impossible.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kcchik:
I have finally get it work, but is there any other way to record it during using bluetooth?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] saugatdb:
let us know what u used
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hhhtj:
I use total recall and it works with build-in microphone, but only one side recording with bluetooth.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Use Rage Kernel, and choose an app to record calls.

2way call recording is possible with the right libs, so you need to modify your kernel.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Do you mean this (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1398910) kernel or this (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1549221) kernel?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
First one only works with stock ROM, second only works with CM ROMs.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xperiaactive:
Someone is just using that application and can record the total conversation (two voices) ?

I would know what app is better for this...

Thanks!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Thanks for your reply. Can i ask you if there are any other kernel (with 2 way recording activated) available for the sony xperia mini pro SK17i?

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I think that several applications are available. Call Recorder by Skvalex should work fine:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder&hl=en

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1441643
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
X Kernel, also supports 2 way recording.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1451150
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xperiaactive:
Thanks!

I'll try!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Thanks. I will try the X kernel too when i'll get my xperia mini pro. Does the X kernel work both on stock rom and CM rom?

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You are welcome. Let us know if it works because i am also interested in this. Another app that has been cited before is AutoCallRecorder by Roman G:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.romang.callrecorder&feature=order_history

It has been updated since the users posted in this thread their review. Maybe now it works.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Nice posts! Thanks dudes.

If someone flash the kernel, and lend only the audio libs (libaudio.so for example) related with 2WCR, if flashed to replace the stock libs, without flash the kernel, the 2WCR works?

Someone with flashed kernel can upload the .so files? I wanna to test, I'm just a curious noob :p

I want the .so:

libaudio.so

libaudioflinger.so

libaudiopolicy.so

Use Root Explorer or Root Browser from Google Play and navigate to /system/lib then copy the libaudio files to your sdcard, and upload, if someone want help. I will try today if possible.

Regards.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
These files are not affected with kernel installation and are the same on most ROMs.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
About the same I know. But not affected by the kernel :eek:! Thanks dude :cool:.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] manjeet15:
im saw this thread and just wonder how can no one figure out this application..

test this application CALL RECORDER by SCHASS INNAB go to market and search.

here is the link to market https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schass.recording.call&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zY2hhc3MucmVjb3JkaW5nLmNhbGwiXQ..

app icon is red circle with REC text on it..

im using this app from my old X10 mini pro

and now in xperia mini mro and its working & recording 2way calls.

im rooted & using stock 2.3.4 version.

hope this helps u all...

please rely here whoever test this app is it working or not..

sorry i think its not working in 2.3 android.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
You are rooted. ok. But did you unlock your xperia mini pro sk17i's bootloader? Did you install the Rage kernel in order to get that app working?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] manjeet15:
no i dont unlock bootloader nor i installed any rage kernel im on stock 2.3 version but i dont use this software after 2.3.4 update so u will check by installing this app is it working or not in latest 2.3.4 version
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Pretty interesting information. "What" model of xperia mini pro do you have? sk17i or sk17a or other?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Ya ya pretty interesting :eek:. I tried this program before, with stock .377 and don't work. I have a mini st15a
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
I have to report to you guys that on my xperia mini pro SK17i running android 2.3.4 (build 4.0.2.A.0.58) with root permission (but loocked bootloader and stock ROM) i can record both ways of a phone call through the free version of this program: http://sites.google.com/site/autocallrecorder/

THAT is really strange ... any explanation?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Thanks for the feedback :D.

Dude can you try with a headphone to listen the other person? I mean: if you speak normally at the mic of the phone and listen the other side by a headphone, you can record without loss quality or volume? Sorry for ask that.

EDIT: a wired headphone; I wanna see if the audio is routed from the line not from the speakers.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
No problem dude. Tomorrow morning i will try with the wired headphone that came in with the phone. I will let you know if i can hear both my audio and the other side's audio.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
So. I did a try. When i am using a wired headset (like the one that came in with the phone) and i record the call, i can only hear weakly my side of the conversation. No hear of the other side.

As far as the other application just suggested by another user (CALL RECORDER by SCHASS INNAB at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schass.recording.call) it doesn't work at all. I guess because it is an old app. It has been last updated on 4 november 2010 before android 2.3 was released.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Thanks again :cool:.

Well, I took courage to unlock bootloader (by the test point method) and, :cool:, with Rage Kernel, 2WCR is working good with both side, clear and nice, even with bluethoot headset, or wired headset or just trought the fone mic, working awesome. I use the kernel with CallRecorder by skvalex.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
No problem :cool:

You did a good thing! I guess that Rage Kernel is the only way to have a proper 2way recording. Since i don't use any headset (usually) i have decided to stay as i am. Recording from the mic with that free app is enough for now. I am not "brave" enough to unlock the bootloader :D By the way, which method of unlocking did you use? :confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Lol, "brave" or "mad" ? haha :p

I use the testpoint method, connect the testpoint (search a pic here) to grnd (battery minus), plug usb to pc and install drivers, reboot pc, then run s1tool. 2 minutes and all done, without looses DRM and trackId.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
I just remembered that , back then, i didn't ask you which custom rom did you use with the rage kernel. Can i ask you now? :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Hahahaha cool.

Sure you can, take a look here to see it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1973859

serajr will make you puke rainbows, search more about his work, maybe you will find more. Rage Kernel goes very well with serajr tweaked roms.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Thanks man, it's nice to hear yoy back! :good:

As soon as i'll have a few time to play around with the phone i'll try the rage kernel v3.2 toghether with the v1.1 (fix) version of the Xperia Clean 'n' Tweaked ICS custom rom.

Now i am running mesa kernel + RealICSLite_r4 and the phone is doing good ... except for two way recording.

So tell me, you have been using the "rage kernel + Xperia Clean 'n' Tweaked ICS custom rom" combination for about 2 years continuosly? No problems at all?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Nice combination also ;).

I used about 8 months I guess, no problems as far I could remember. After, I pushed CM11 (oops I need to update my signature) just to use the Google and Free Xperia Team improvements, also for security reasons. But the ICS from serajr is very stable and have good performance/battery life since is a very clean stock, the best part is increment it with other serajr stuff and customizations.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
I will also probably try android 4.4 with the free xperia team custom rom ... but, can you still use the "two way recording" feature on the kernel+rom combination?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
CM10 the recording works very well, but in CM11 I'm able to record only incoming calls, so is half working, I need to search more about it yet. The kernels are that within CM package.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Nice to hear that, even though i was thinking about skipping CM10. After ICS i will probably upgrade directly to android 4.4 (CM 11 freexperia).

Strange thing ... really ... onyl incoming calls, at least both side of incoming calls are recorded?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Yup! :cyclops:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Night on the web:
Good! :good: This is the important part because it means it can record from the phone line.

I guess that the bug that makes only the incoming call to be detected (and recorded) will be fixed ;)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Senorhamburgler:
I've looked around and I've seen something like this happens on EVOs, but everytime I connect to 4g it redirects me to deviceselfservice.sprint.com and gives me different options to pay for it. I called Sprint and hey didn't understand it after we updated my profile, prl, did muliple resets, same problem. I checked my WiMax settings and they were all good. Any ideas?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duce102:
Are you sure your paying for it? It sounds like they didnt activate it?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deano0714:
I'm pretty sure you have to to have this phone...
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Senorhamburgler:
When I called them they said I had it and it worked for a while and then stopped
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ronnie9242:
if use buildin sense launcher it got only 6 icons deducted clock space

Im wondering if there are any application or any method can make desktop icon smaller while using sense UI as launcher, currently i can only use other custom launcher to make it smaller, cause i want to put more app on desktop, but the problem is so many wiget are combined with sense UI, so if i use other launcher instead of genuine stock launcher those wiget will be extincted
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] steinerhippo:
Hi,

you can add app icons to other homescreens, or you can add a folder to youz homescreen and add apps to the folder.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] steinerhippo:
Hi,

i just stumbled upon multicon, which lets you place 4 icons in the place of which now is 1 icon. Have a look at it:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.h9kdroid.multicon&hl=en
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notbryant:
I feel this is unique enough to merit its own thread and I looked at the first 30 pages for anything similar and found nothing.

What do you think would make the dock more worth it? Not necessarily more of a netbook, because if you want a netbook then buy a netbook, but more along the lines of functionality that should be there or is already there but needs improving. This is not really a gripe session, more of a brainstorm and also helping to make suggestions to other people if a solution already exists/comes into existence. But do try to keep it reasonable; keep your expectations realistic of an Android-running device.

I'm mainly talking about Android, since as far as I know, no other OS is stable just yet, but hardware is also a determining factor. Also, since a lot of Android is the apps, I think it would be alright to list an app functionality that would be nice (i.e., a video player, an SSH client, etc.)

And hopefully it would be nice if we followed the format of

What: What it is

Why: Why you believe it is necessary.

I'll start with a few I've noticed (I run Prime 1.6 [I think] currently):

Keyboard should provide all basic functionality

I found it odd that there's a menu button, but no app-switcher key on the keyboard. I find it strange that that core piece of functionality still requires the use of the touch screen.

Word processor should focus on keyboard

Just a bunch of stupid things that make it incredibly annoying to use and would never fly in a desktop processor.

-Ctrl+S should save

-Shift should be able to select

-Bullet indenting is horrid; should use tab

Dock-friendly SSH client is desperately needed

(Hear me out. I don't expect a full IDE at all, but a simple SSH client really is not too much to ask. Again, it works perfectly, just not at all designed for the dock.)

ConnectBot is ok, but it just fails if you have a full keyboard and want to use it as a simple SSH client. Shift acts as capslock, there is no way to do many shortcuts such as Ctrl+O (save in GNU Nano), and many characters like * can't be typed directly into the console.

That's what I've noticed so far. Hopefully you guys will think this is a good idea and chip in your opinions.

-notbryant.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kumabjorn:
I want to jump around in a document if possible.

I use the regular arrow keys way more than I do in Windows.

Also I'd like to see more Ctrl+combinations available.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bjd223:
Alt+Tab works as an app switcher in the newer firmwares. They also added Shift+Arrow Keys to highlight text easier. This pretty much made the keyboard usable for me.

The more Windows shortcuts they implement the happier I will be.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bob Smith42:
Required dock features:

What: Crap load more battery. 11000mAh minimum.

Why: Useful

What: Programmable Hot Keys, menu hooks for any application.

Why: Speed. Touch is faster than mouse, hot keys would be faster than menu.

What: Hardware NIC port

Why: Sometimes wired wins over wireless.

What: Screen Orientation Controls (options - see Orientation Control app)

Why: Dock screws with orientation. Unscrew it.

What: Barrel charging vs ASUS 40 pin cable nightmare

Why: Fu*k proprietary charging.

I could think of more, but this is a start.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] punman:
I'd love it if ctrl-w or ctrl-t in the Browser didn't sometimes "double-tap" and close (or open) two tabs at once. Maybe they should fix the dock keyboard problems before adding any more shortcuts. Though I would fully support and use more of the "standard" keyboard shortcuts if they implemented them.

Also, it would be nice if the apps that "lock" into portrait mode (I'm looking at YOU, ESPN, among others) could be "unlocked" when it's docked.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notbryant:
I did not know that, thanks for the info. Does it work the same way as the app switcher button on the screen? Also, isn't the only Alt key on the right of the spacebar? Maybe I'm just being picky, but I use my Thumb+Ring Finger for my traditional keyboard.

As for the Shift+Arrow keys, I just used it the other day in class running Prime 1.6 and Shift+Arrow didn't work for me in Polaris.

@Bob Smith42

I would like some hotkeys; There were 2 on my Eee netbook and I found those pretty useful, and on Android it would be more so. They should have done that instead of the Camera, Browser, and Settings buttons.

Wired seems a bit beyond the scope of an Android powered device, IMO.

I concur about proprietary charging.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bjd223:
Yeah you have to use the right Alt which sucks for a little while til you get used to it. If the Alt and search keys were switched it would be better. If you root I think someone could easily remap the search key to alt also, but I am not 100% on this.

I am not sure if the shift+arrow keys thing is an OS thing or an application dependant thing. I do it in the email app primarily and never really tried it anywhere else yet.

For those wanting a wired ethernet port; one of the guys around here got a USB to ethernet adapter to work, but some applications don't use it correctly but I think someone will work it out. Not sure if you need root for it though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plasmastrike:
The first thing we would need is the hotkeys for our devices, and other ways to use the keyboard. then we could worry about added functionality. does anybody know where one of tose lists could be found

found one that is being worked on

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1071739
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kumabjorn:
What: Language switching (Alt+LShift)

Why: For those of us who are multi-lingual switching between languages also affects dictionary and spell check features in applications. Being able to do that with a keyboard switch rather than tapping ths screen and selecting from a menu would be more efficient.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jyveafk:
Ability to swap functionality around a bit.

I'd love to be able to set the '<-' back button to ESCAPE (without using the root tricks to remap). Perhaps FUNCTION-'<-' is escape (or remapped to back)

More controllable key bindings

That whole top line of shortcuts should be more configurable. When using VNC/RDP, they'd be more use to me as standard windows function keys. Ability to quickly select them would be great.

The rest? Not too fussed, works great for everything else.

Asus were /really/ smart doing what they did. Hopefully they keep this standard (or even license the connector out).

Docking station variations

I'd still like to see variations of the keyboard. I might buy 2 with different functionality. Need the standard keyboard? Chuck the TF in and go. Doing a lot of remote work today? Drop it into the 'windows key compatibility' dock and use that.

Bigger/Heavier dock with bigger (and I mean monstrous!) keyboard.

One with RFID reader in/biometric scanners. (ok, getting niche here, but you're after what WE want!)

Keyboard dock that's another screen. TF drops into it, gets the extra battery life, but there's another display there, like the new Sony one appears to work. More screen real estate, on-screen keyboard if needed.

Game-board. stub joysticks, arcade quality fire buttons, nice trackpad area in middle. Would make an awesome portable MAME device.

Heck, can see a market for JUST a battery pack, no keys, trackpad, just a battery pack for the tablet screen.

Highend dock

Larger battery,

another few USB ports, maybe even a firewire port,

CD/DVD (if they get a linux kernal with the support compiled in).

Backlit keyboard

Turn it into a full on netbook. 250ish bucks.

Can't get over how cool a concept the docking is, sure there's a market for more flexibility. They just /really/ need to license it. Could be a long term money earner for them if there's others paying to make these things.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jyveafk:
Oh, and whilst going off the point, might as well really go for it;

A new keyboard dock with (or a slot for) a HUGE HD(well, SSD preferred, power considerations really). Take the TF around, take some pics, small vids, drop into the dock, do some simple video work with a 200gb SSD to save to.

(and/or use that huge HD for some serious film/music/mame roms storage)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timduru:
Something very important to me that I would like to see implemented is better text selection.

The cursors selection is good for touch screen, but it kinda defeats the point of having a touch pad.

I'd like to be able to select text with the touch pad cursor, just like you do on a regular PC with drag and drop...

It's really something mandatory for me as I copy paste very often between browsers, terminals and so on ..

Also a way to deactivate page scrolling with the touch pad, for example it's currently impossible to do a drag and drop of something on the screen , without triggering the scrolling of the page.

(usefull for cropping pictures in a web browser and such for example, or any other operation that requires drag and drop)

Alt+tab works ok in the latests firmwares, but it only works while being on the home screen, which is kinda a pain.

It's usefull to switch between applications, but it doesn't work that way.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kumabjorn:
Portrait

It would really smart if you had two connector sides on the tablet so you could choose between landscape (the present) or portrait mode if you want to use the Transformer for more serious writing assignments.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notbryant:
@Bjd223

I think things like shift-arrows are application dependent, which is why it's that much more of a disappointment that Polaris doesn't have it since it is supposed to be centered around manipulating text.

@Jyveafk

You should really try to use the format that I suggested; your post looks like a wall of text.

@Kumabjorn

If you really wanted that, a bluetooth keyboad might be more up your alley.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kumabjorn:
I actually have a BT keyboard as well, just not any stand for the Eee Pad yet. It would just be nice to carry it around as one unit and then take it out of the dock and reinsert it in portrait mode. This is after all a wish list, and I'm sure people from ASUS lurk around here.