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[TouchPad General] mistabusta:
I'm sure it's been said, but it really comes down to cost.

It was pretty much the same price as an iPad. What tablet buying in their right mind is going to choose this over an iPad at the same price point? Hardly anyone.

The $99 fire sale sparked interest and people do like webOS. People like my almost 60 year old mother, who snagged herself one...and now carries it with her wherever she goes. Tethered to her Nexus S, I might add.

Price these things right and everyone is going to want one, that has been proven. Now what is the proper pricing? I have no idea what the cost to build the TouchPad was, but perhaps taking a loss or even making a small profit up front for the opportunity to make up for it in software sales, much like the Video Game Industry might be a smart business model to follow.

We managed to grab 7 units in total. We have 4 in use right here at home between my wife, myself and my kids. We've spent almost $100 in app catalog purchases so far and I'm sure we're not the only ones. It's no wonder that HP execs seem to be backpedaling and rethinking the last move they made.

Now what's a good cost. $275 for the 8GB and $375 for the 16GB - they could take a nice chunk of marketshare from both iPad and iPod Touch.
[TouchPad General] Skunkeye:
Frankly, I think those prices are too high. People are asking $250-$300 on eBay and Craigslist, and not getting many takers. The only reason there was such a frenzy was the $100 price tag. There are a couple decent 10-inch Android tablets out there in the $300 range, and they aren't exactly flying off the shelves.

The problem with getting tablets out of the "tech geek" category and into mainstream buyer's hands is that the average consumer doesn't see the value. "For $400, I only get 32 GB of storage and 1 GB of memory? And only a ten-inch screen? I can buy this laptop for $350 that has a 15-inch screen, keyboard, 2 GB of RAM, and 250 GB of storage!" Of course, that's probably a terrible laptop, but the comparison will be made, and most people will choose the computer over the tablet.

As you said, they need a new "loss-leader" model, where they sell these for below cost (maybe around $200), and hope to make it up on peripherals and app sales. That's a pretty risky proposition, though, considering how much it costs to develop, manufacture, and support the things. People are already conditioned by Apple and Android to only spend a buck or two on an app, so by the time you give the developers their share, it takes a LOT of app sales to recoup your investment.

HP's other big problem is they now have no credibility in this market. They abandoned the Touchpad after just six weeks in the stores. No intermediate markdowns to try to find the right price point, they just pulled the plug and ran away. Can they really bring the product back to the market now and have any developer or consumer trust?
[TouchPad General] ponyboy82:
+1 on all points, I think. Even at $200 it's tough -- the Nook Color is the techie's baby and that's been on sale (refurbished) for under $200 recently. I keep hoping they'll get back behind the Touchpad now (if not HP, then someone) just because WebOS is pretty slick. Developer and consumer trust could be difficult. I've only recently paid attention to the Touchpad/WebOS but it always just seemed like an also-ran behind iOS and Android. Most developers can't seem to justify supporting 2 platforms, let alone 3 or more. WebOS did just get a huge jump in install-base too, so hopefully that helps it have some kind of future.
[TouchPad General] superflysocal:
they jumped the gun at $100. If it was $200, they would have cut their loss in half and it would still sell out. maybe not in 1 day, but probably in 2-3 weeks easily.

The reason why people are not biting at 250 is not because it is not worth it, it is because most people are not willing to buy it at a certain price when they know they could of had it at a lower price. If the selling price was 200 and it sold out quickly, there would be people buying it at $250. It is an IPS 10 inch device with one of the best processor on the market, that is easily overclockable.

Going prices for this now appears to be $200 for 16gb and $250 for 32gb.

I put my 16gb up on craigslist for $195 and it sold in less than 1 hour, with about 6 other offers within that hour.

Color nook is nowhere near this league in hardware especially at this price, but even if both could be had for 200.
[TouchPad General] ponyboy82:
That's true, but I think they're still comparable. Obviously the Nook is outgunned based on the CPU, but without inadvertently starting a flamewar, it also has a lot going for it... and depending on where you shop they're competing at a similar price point. The point is, at $200+, there starts to be more competition from the Android tablets out there.
[TouchPad General] dhayden:
this is my thinking all along. Or maybe there is some bull**** in the back doors not public that apple is going to sue them like they are trying to sue everyone else because everyone is copying apple. That is a load of crap people. Before apple even thought of a tablet, HP was the first with the TC1000 [sucked with Via processors] and then the TC1100 [Intel ] which I still have today. Very functional with tablet edition and OneNote, but my god a brick to carry. Etc.

since I bought the 2 TP,s [me and mom], I have grown to love everything about this baby I have a gtab too, 3 towers, 4 umps, 4 laptops, 2 netbooks, etc. but since I have done the tweeks and ramped up the processor to 1.5 GHz? this bad ass flys....love the ease of webos. I have already invested $50 in aps, (feed the developers and webos) and a little more for the case, dock, and extra charger, so add that to the revenue not just a million tablets.

always something "not good enough!". System slow, screen sucks, no aps, no battery life, good god this device rocks and I hope it takes the tablet market over by a landslide. Money is very tight with the economy and everything going on in the world now, so for 99 and 149 bucks this is definitely a STEAL. My 2 cents thx :D
[Motorola Droid 3] VMSAWRSMSZ006Z:
Has anyone tried the V6 Supercharger script on the D3 yet? Still not too familiar with scripts and the only real experience I've had with it is when I ran it on the D1.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GizmoFreak:
Hi, I was on Stock 2.3.3 then I flashed wolf's rom and my battery started draining :-(

Now I am back to stock via repair using PCC but the problem still persists... :-(

I need to charge two times a day if I m using my phone continuously... Previously it used to last one day...

Need suggestions on how to improve the battery.... Should I go back to 2.1 and then update it again to 2.3.3 ???

Or any other solution... I am on Stock 2.3.3 at the moment..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aimcr7:
Calibrate it using battery calibration mate.

Fully charge and calibrate it, then use it till fully discharged, and fully charge again.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runaway_bunny:
I never calibrated my battery. I guess what u missed was wiping battery stats before flashing wolf's rom. (he didnt mention this step in the installation procedure as its not mandatory) but this makes a difference I believe. I think u can have one more try. If your stock Rom is already rooted then flash wolf's rom again (or else u might have to go back to 2.1 and root it and flash wolf's rom). Now before u flashing wolf's rom, wipe ur battery stats just before selecting the custom zip (actual rom file). Good luck :) (PS: I'm on wolf's rom and I'm a heavy used - bluetooth head set on almost 10 - 12 hrs a day and wifi on almost 12 - 16 hrs a day and I usually gets over a day and I'm not using any custom kernels)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GizmoFreak:
Just done a fresh install of wolf's rom with the latest v4.0.4 and this time I wiped everything and also formatted the system.. things appear to be fine at the moment as I have not installed any of my previous apps.. Will see how the battery operates for a few days..

I am also somehow hates the battery calibaration method it appears that it takes more from a battery then to give it lol..
[Motorola Droid 3] MTPenguin:
I'm looking for a stand alone app that can provide the feature the new D3 has in Blur. The one where if you ignore a phone call, a quick txt msg popup gives you options to reply with a txt to the ignored call. My boss has a D2G or Droid Pro and would really like this feature. Anyone know of a stand alone app that does this? Or a way to get it on his Droid?

B-)
[General Questions and Answers] tdawg0213:
Every time I flash a mod/theme upon reboot my Evo 4g gets stuck on the white screen does it tak a reeeeeeeeeeeeealy long time to reboot or am I doing something wrong?
[General Questions and Answers] mikedavis120:
Get the sdk on your pc open cmd and navigate to platform-tools plug your phone in VIA usb and type adb logcat into your cmd window and then reboot.

If it stops running code and sits there copy that to a text file and attach it here. If it keeps going just let it go

Sent from my HTC EVO 3d

Root: revolutionary

Recovery: Twrp cwm 4

ROM: Synergy 2.3.4 ( I want aosp)

The dual core shooter. Double the bad ass.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ghodzilla5150:
Has anyone got Titanium Backup Pro OR My Backup Pro to work on the Photon. My Photon is Rooted (verified by Root Check, even BusyBox is installed). I can't use Titanium at all and My Backup will ONLY Backup Apps but not data. I am under the impression it is has something to do with ROM's and their Kernels (Ran on EVO Great with Myn's Warm 2.2 then Synergy). Any workarounds? Thanks
[Motorola Photon 4G] M@XLOL:
works fine here.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Sparky_McBurning:
Works fine for me as well

Sent from my MB855
[Motorola Photon 4G] naps79:
Not having any problems with Titanium.
[Motorola Photon 4G] WiredAnim:
I didn't have any issues with Titanium backup, worked like a charm from my Evo backup.
[Motorola Photon 4G] flipper12:
Ditto that...

... worked fine, migrating all my EVO apps to the Photon. No issues at all.

I'm guessing you probably already tried all the recommended troubleshooting tips that the app states, like upgrading Superuser, etc.?
[Motorola Photon 4G] roadster92:
What do you mean TB not working at all? Does it tell you that you are not rooted?

Did you check under Superuser that Titanium Back up is allowed?
[Motorola Photon 4G] beartrap:
I have both and no problems here
[Motorola Photon 4G] sd7318:
Had the same issue and had to re-root again and was fine.. Even tho root explorer and superuser worked fine.
[Motorola Photon 4G] sub2k1:
Titanium Backup Pro here, works like always. Not a single glitch.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ghodzilla5150:
Wow, you guys are lucky. I have BusyBox v 1.19. And updated SuperUser. When I open up Titanium Backup I get an Error "Sorry' I could not acquire Root privileges. This application will *NOT* work! Please verify that your ROM (Which I don't have) is Rooted and includes BusyBox, and try again.

My Backup Pro works but Titanium won't.
[Motorola Photon 4G] roadster92:
Like I said and ask in a few posts back, when you execute the Titanium back up, superuser should pop up and notify you to allow Titanium Back up to have access to root. Look like you did not. That's why you get the error from Titanium Back up said you are not root.

Open Superuser app and check to see if Titanium Backup was allowed !!! It happens to me before.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ghodzilla5150:
I was using the paid version SuperUser Elite and it did not allow Root. I then changed to the Free version of SuperUser and still the same issue. It says Titanium has been granted SuperUser Permissions, but I can't use it wierd. As long as I can use My BackUp Pro, it's all good. I can download Apps & Data. Thanks Guys. It even says SuperUser has been allowed for Titanium. I will uninstall and reinstall.

Edit: Uninstall & Reinstall did it, plus updated SuperUser. Thanks guys, appreciate the help. Running a backup of apps and data know:)

BTW - Just FYI, I was able to pick up a HP Touchpad (32GB) last weekend and it runs on Wireless N 2.4 & 5 Ghz. Is this the only tablet that allows the use of Wireless N 5Ghz. The web browser is blazing fast. Fastest web browser out of ALL tablets. I also have a Xoom and it blows Dolphin HD out of the water. I use it for all my laying in bed web browsing.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Blitzpwnage:
Sorry to high jack this thread real quick but, ghodzilla, were you that dude posting on engadget on the article about a sprint iphone?
[Motorola Photon 4G] manekineko:
My Galaxy Tab original does Wireless N at 5Ghz.
[Motorola Photon 4G] sslbaron:
Getting back on topic. Works fine here too! (Titanium that is)
[Motorola Photon 4G] ghodzilla5150:
Yes, that was me. I think the iPhone will Destroy Sprint's Network and bring with it Bandwidth Throttling and Data Caps. The iPhone is a Carrier Killer. We have Unlimited Data. When the iPhone comes, that's all over whe you sign a new contract. I will literaly keep my Photon until the Duct Tape falls off and go Trac Phone. I HATE the iPhone, NOT becuase it's an Apple produce, but becuase what it brings to a Network.
[Motorola Photon 4G] mac10334:
I have the newest update and its working just fine on mine.
[Motorola Photon 4G] snappydave:
I've got TB working on my rooted Photon but it doesn't recognize the backups which I've copied over from my EVO. Can you explain what you did to get yours moved over?
[Motorola Photon 4G] pgill34:
Make sure you have busy box installed
[Android Apps and Games] jessejames111981:
What are the best NFL apps out there?
[Android Apps and Games] sitlet:
by "best nfl app" what exaftly do you mean? what would you want in an nfl app?
[Android Apps and Games] MadJoe:
So far I've used SportsTap, and Fox Sports. Neither is the best I'm sure, but ST is pretty good for certain things, and FS is good for others. Try a few and see what works for you.

Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
[Android Apps and Games] terrys1980:
I use ScoreMobile. It does everything I need as far as keeping track of my favorite teams and scores.
[Android Apps and Games] jessejames111981:
I'm looking for something similar to the MLB at bat app for nfl. The ability to read latest news sorted by team thats updated constantly. Browse stats, standings, and maybe have a feature or two I didn't even know I need.
[Motorola Droid 3] iSpencerPro:
I was new to the deleting of bloatware and when I got root I would see that people were saying which was safe to "remove". So i downloaded titanium back up. I then made a backup of everything I had on my phone. Took a few minutes for it to make a back up of everything but I figured if something went wrong I'd be able to just back it up. I then deleteddddddd everything that people said it was safe to remove. And I've had no problems with the phone since, BUT my problem is now that I saw people said you should FREEZE instead of REMOVE I went and downloaded titanium back up PRO with 4shared. I'm now using pro and i've gotten some of the applications restored and frozen, but now when i try to restore the rest it just keeps loading and nothing happens. ANY IDEAS and why is it so bad to remove instead of freeze the app.

P.S I dunno what OSA means (I saw that in another thread)

Applications frozen/removed

Amazon Kindle

Blockbuster

Books

Citrix Receiver

City ID

GoToMeeting

Motoprint

My Verizon Mobile

NFL Mobile

Skype mobile

Slacker

Social Location

V CAST Media Manager

V CAST Music

V CAST Tones

V CAST Videos

VZ Navigator

ZumoCast

(all were restored and frozen)

(the next are all still deleted)

Backup assistant

DlnaSystemService

Backup Assistant Client

Social Networking

Help Center

Social Status

News

Picasa Authenticator

Social Messaging Service

Social Messaging

Social Sharing

DLNA

Guided Tours

IM

IM Presence

CarDock
[Motorola Droid 3] eww245:
Please dont talk about warez at zda
[Motorola Droid 3] driftinaway:
R u ispencer from hawaii?
[Motorola Droid 3] iSpencerPro:
ahah ummm no???. I'm Spencer from California
[Motorola Droid 3] driftinaway:
why freeze

Simply put, you should freeze as opposed to delete in case you accidentally brick your phone before a .sbf file is available to rescue you. Of course u can apply some common sense to this and be relatively sure deleting blockbuster apk isn't going to throw a wrench in your system, but some of those moto files are a bit riskier. Best bet play it safe bro...btw thanks for putting up a good list of the bloatware to delete/freeze for others.

Sidenote: if u r ispencer from honolulu, nice to see u on the android side of things. I was an iphone hacker and jailbreaker right down the street from the ispencer store...I. hosted a few cydia repos for the simple mobile mms fix
[Motorola Droid 3] driftinaway:
Wow well there is an ispencer in honolulu..he is an iphone unlocker lol....sorry I assumed u were him what r the chances of 2 ispencers lol
[Motorola Droid 3] Heelfan71:
I delete bloatware. I always have.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dmw017:
Not to sound badass but...

I unplug my USB devices without using Safely Remove Hardware.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phil750123:
Hi,

Im looking at selling my desire and need to unroot it.

I have download a tmobile RUU, tried to run it but i always get

the

error 170 - usb connected failed.

I have htc synced installed on my pc, it sees my desire and comes up with normal stuff, and on my phone it says connected.

Im on hboot 0.93 , android 2.3.3 software version 3.14.405.1

its a t mobile branded desire. Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks

Phil
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phil750123:
found solution - 2 infact.

Firstly i could do it straight from bootloader menu, (i.e. load up into bootload, plug in usb then work)

And for htc sync i just unistalled and reinstalled and worked.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigiRay:
Hi all.

My wife hqs a I9003. She was running rooted stock 2.2.1 KB1FW on it. Everything was fine untill about 4 days ago. Thay's when without reason the whole Android system started to fail. Clock, Maps, Messaging, TW Launcher, etc all gave error and forced closed. She only had about 10 or 15 apps installed and all on phone memory. So I did a Factory Restore thinkg it would help but it was all still the same.

So I flashed KPE (all 4 files) and a new error started: after 1 or 2 after the factory restore on new FW, phone crashes and goes in to a boot loop (Samsung logo and intro screen). Once I manage to get back to Android, it's reset to factory settings (install wizzard). I've flashed KPH, KB1, KB3 etc and it's the same problem all the time. Was flashing the APBOOT file from KPE a mistake?? How can I fix this?? I don't have a backup and even if I did, I can enter download mode but not restore mode (Vol Up + Home + Power).

Please, I need help urgently

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lordrdx666:
Before this all started did she install some unknown kinda software/app from the market?

Also while flashing did you use Latona.pit file?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigiRay:
Nope. Thay's the weird thing. On mine, I'm constantly installing/deleting from the market, blackmarket and other sources and have no problems. All the apps she had, I installed myself and were all "safe".

As far as the pit file, I used it first joint with the other 4 files (like I did for my I9000) and after I used it on it's own. I've tried first the pit file, then the FW files, just the FW files and the pit + FW files with and without re-partition checked... I'm running out of ideas and getting desperate...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fooman123:
Sounds to me like the phone has developed a hardware fault.

Things do just up and die sometimes..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigiRay:
Could it be the battery??? She hasn't dropped or banged it at all. Mine had a slight swim.and is still perfect. If I flash it back to a European KB1, would the warranty still cover me??
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingsrook14:
Try to do the following:

Select only latona (.pit) and repartition in odin. Put the phone in download mode and flash.

Next reset all. Select pda, modem, csc file from XXKB3 firmware. Dont choose repartition and flash.

hope it works
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bangalorerohan:
Tell me teh method what you followed to flash? Like first, the pit file with re-partion,auto-reboot and F.reset time checked. And, then, the other 4 file of the SAME Fw with the auto-reset unchecked. Also, Did you click on the reset button after flashing the pit file?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigiRay:
Had done that before but just did it again. So far it has crashed once but didn't revert back to factory default this time and I now have the recovery mode again.

I've done it various ways as I explained in the first post. With and without re-partition, with and without the pit file, etc.

But I had a minor brainwave this morning after the first crash on XXKB3. The microSD she had in her phone was an 8GB she got with her old Xperia. It was used under Symbian and when I put it in her Galaxy, I think I had formatted it with the PC but not with the phone. Can't remember (she has it since May). In any case, she didn't have apps stored on the SD but she did have all wallpapers, photos, music, ringtones, etc. I've now removed the SD and see how it goes. Just thinking that maybe the SD is f****d and could be creating a shortcut or inestability with the phone... Worth a try as I'm all out of ideas.

Thatnks to everyone for the help you're providing me with this issue. I suppose it's weird that after flashing many different ROMs the problem persists and is still the same. If all else fails and I re-flash the XXKB1, do yo guys think Samsung will take responasability for the problem?? I have it unlocked with the app thats on the market, but AFAIK I have the EFS folder backup stored somewhere.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigiRay:
Well phone still switching off with the XXKB3 FW. It's only switching off now tho... No boot loop. And at least now I know it's not the SD at fault. I'll try re-flashing XXKB3 tomorrow as I only flashed it once today. Then I'll do a factory format and reset battery stats once I flash the CWM. If after that it's still the same, I gues I'll have to restore the EFS folder, flash the XXKB1 FW and send it off to Samsung and hope for the best... Unless anyone has any other idea I can try???
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xGiox:
i am not sure bout this but if you flash xxkph it shouldnt void varanty since its official rom? right o.o
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazbanditz:
No. Anything that is done using Odin voids your warranty so when visiting service centre just flash to the firmware that your phone came out of the box then tell the service centre staff the phone just went crazy or anything like that just dont talk about Odin to them. And try this out.

1. Download an app called Rom manager from the market.

2. Make sure you are rooted.

3. Go into rom manager and hit fix permissions.

4. Reboot.

That should do it. Or else its the service centre.

Sent from my GT-I9003
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xGiox:
i mean they wont know if he used kies or odin.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazbanditz:
But if you dont come from russia which the csc says ser which is russia then they will know its definite you used Odin as there is no other ways you could get to a firmware of another region where you don't even come from using Kies unless you hacked Kies which also voids the warranty.

Sent from my GT-I9003
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madi3d8:
LOL., you can say you travel to RUSSIAN..:D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazbanditz:
Then the warranty will be voided didnt you see they said warranty will be voided if not bought within the country or something like that.??

Sent from my GT-I9003