yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Basically it comes down to user preference between CFS and BFS.., both are good.., which the CFS version is patched with sched autogroup patch and BFS version is patched with CK2 patchset.. BFS does seem to use a little more cpu power, so depending on the task, BFS can be a little more smoother... But for the task I do on my phone, CFS w/ sched_autogroup works about the same as BFS does

As for OC/UV, I recommend using OC/UV Beater2 app, very easy to set OC and UV values..also recommend using SysTune...

For the schedulers, your mixing up BFS with BFQ.., CFS and BFS are cpu task schedulers (not adjustable via userspace, this is why theres 2 different versions), where as BFQ, SIO, VR, Deadline, CFQ..etc..are IO schedulers, these can be adjusted via app such as SysTune or No-Frills app
[HTC Inspire 4G] beerbaronstatic:
Nighty 250 & 251 should both have the new code right? Yesterday and todays
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Yes, starting with 250 up...havent tested on anything below 250 (as I build CM from source and is always updated...same with kernel source, I always keep it in line with CM as soon as they update)... so Talon is always up to date but its only tested/supported with latest CM nightly (in this case 250+)
[HTC Inspire 4G] XsceneXhippieX:
I kept looking at bfs thinking it looked funny lol, and ill try those oc/UV apps, i haven't used any of the one's mentioned in your post, thank you very much!

Sent from cyanogen mod 7
[HTC Inspire 4G] beerbaronstatic:
So I'm on 250 with 1.1.2 cfs, I'm noticing much higher idle drain then before, with current widget the lowest i ever see is 8ma, but it rarely drops out of the hundreds, I used to be closer to 2, I'm using killersloths uvlite for talonace (was before too)
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Could be rom releated because mine is always 1-2ma during idel, and my private testers usually have same results
[HTC Inspire 4G] beerbaronstatic:
Hmmm, weird, I know I did a clean wipe on installing (don't care for upgrades), so its not like anything should be lingering, I have very few apps installed, what version of CM are you running?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
I always stay up to date with latest CM sources ... so guess you can say latest nightly ... i usually sync my sources and flash daily (for testing purposes), but i haven't had any issues in last several builds, and my idle drain is usually always 1-2ma, sometimes jumps to 4-5 here and there but goes back down

But currently im on a beta hybrid aosp rom of mine, and still get the same amount during idle
[HTC Inspire 4G] DonJuan89:
Findings

So I'm running CM Nightly 252, with your latest CFS kernel and I must say: awesome work.

I haven't yet looked into battery draining on idle but when using wifi, it doesn't go over 100ma most of the time.

Also, I had issues on Black Ice Rom, and CM 7.1 stable with music lags when turning screen off and on and during playback when screen was off also. With your kernel, this issue is gone.

Also I get a constant, non dropping data connection with very good response and high speeds even in areas with low signal. Radio 13.04.19_M with 1003G RIL, no overclocking or extra undervolting.

So, GREAT job so far, don't mess it up ;) I don't want to leave CM for Sense again, it would break my heart.
[HTC Inspire 4G] beerbaronstatic:
Are either of you using UV scripts? or just running stock?
[HTC Inspire 4G] DonJuan89:
I just flashed Killersloth's TalonAce UV-lite script. Will report later on how it behaves. My DHD couldn't handle the normal UV script, that's why the lite version.
[HTC Inspire 4G] shadow1337:
Switched from LordmodUE BFS to your BFS Kernel a few minutes ago. Seems to be stable with 1036/192mhz and Killer's heavy UV Script :)

But why are there the same vdd levels for the first three freqs? Does this mean 192 and 345mhz will cause the same drain?

Edit: Only stable with ondemand governer. Smartass v2 leads to a freeze in a few seconds.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
The 1st 3 frequencies have different VDD levels...when coming from lordmod, make sure you remove any OC/UV settings, as Talon uses different frequencies and voltages...for the 1st 3 steps, the default voltages are..

192 = 900

268 = 925

345 = 950

If smartass2 is freezing, then start out with default frequencies/voltages (as i cannot support/promise anything besides those will work, as each device is different when it comes to oc/uv)... best thing to do is start with clean, default freqs/voltags, then use app like OC/UV Beater2, and start adjusting each frequency only 25mV at a time, if it locks up, then knock it back down a notch, keep doing that till you find the perfect voltage for each frequency
[HTC Inspire 4G] shadow1337:
Okay thank you. I will play around with the vdd levels a bit :) What is you preferred governor?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Smartass2 ... it gives me best performance/battery ratio.. It might use the higher frequencies more, so you might have to adjust your UV settings based on it.. Depending on how stable your UV settings are, you might have to taylor them depending on the governor.. for example, Ondemand/X might spend more time at the lower frequencies, so your higher steps might not have to be as stable as say with SmartassV2 where it might scale higher quicker, or spend more time at higher frequencies.. etc..etc.. So just remember, whats stable on one governor, doesnt 100% mean its going to be stable on another..they all scale/behave differently.. but smartass2 gives me real good battery life, while giving me the best performance out of the rest.. But it all just depends on your use/needs
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Running your kernel on MIUIandroid v.1.11.4 and now v.1.11.11. Totally stable and saves battery. Very pleased.

Looking forward to the ROM ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
I'm hoping to get atleast a public beta posted by next week.. Its an AOSP hybrid built off Google's 2.3.7_r1 release with device/hardware files from CM.. ,i guess you could consider it like a "Gingerbeast 2“ if there ever was one.., a simple, barebone, almost pure AOSP rom (its not CyanogenMod) .. which it will have a few tweaks/features..etc
[HTC Inspire 4G] Dinman:
I look forward to that... it will hopefully have Bluetooth, right?

I drive a truck for a living... gotta have it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Yep bluetooth, wifi, data..etc..etc.. works fine..
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Sounds awesome! Can't wait :-)

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[HTC Inspire 4G] Trevino07:
Beta

Sounds awesome, your kernal Rocks on the New Absolution.
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
Believe me if you like a light, fast and extremely stable ROM you're going to love this ROM. I've been running it for a few days now to help existz iron out the kinks and it's amazing. Best battery life I've ever had on this device. Existz is one of the most dedicated devs I know. He strives for perfection and stops at nothing less.
[HTC Inspire 4G] a user:
not meant as offence but i am curious if his rom will include the many placebo optimizations i found on almost every rom till now, like dirty_ratio etc.

most devs here seem to ignore that many of the settings tweaks are of no uses without swap and aren't using swap ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Nope not including any useless tweaks :P
[HTC Inspire 4G] a user:
well it is no shame if it happens. no one is perfect. but at some point i start to doubt that some people presenting tweaks are actually knowing what they are doing.

but i am not meaning you by this.
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
Then why come in this thread and make post like this and your previous one. Just wait until it comes out and tear through it like you do with everyone elses stuff.
[HTC Inspire 4G] buzzboy:
Outstanding battery performance with DHD and CM7 on BFS.

Really wiping the floor with alternative kernels.

Thanks and Regards
[HTC Inspire 4G] o0k00l:
Using miui by mark ... Flashed bfs and sound stopped (I guess sound drivers are messed).. Any help ? I m having inspire 4g...i already flashed .5 inspire sound patch...

.... Send from my Inspire 4G ....
[HTC Inspire 4G] Dinman:
Someone over on the Miui thread said they wiped cache & it fixed sound...its not kernel related, unless you flashed the latest which is meant for the latest cm with dual mic support
[HTC Inspire 4G] o0k00l:
no it doesn't resolve the issue

.... Send from my Inspire 4G ....
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
Try reflashing the kernel.

Also read this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18924919&postcount=293
[HTC Inspire 4G] o0k00l:
seems 1.2 wont work... Thanks

.... Send from my Inspire 4G ....
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Actually, the problem is in last release there were updates to CM source inregards to new dual mic logic, which if you use this on a rom without the new fixes then it breaks audio.. This is why in the downloads it only shows CM beside the filename, as the other shows CM-MIUI .. You will need to use older version of Talon on MIUI.. I was waiting to put another release out this week to see if new MIUI update updated to the new audio libs, so next release will have a sepereate MIUI vesion again

Also, only use the version thats labeled for the rom your using.., if it only says CM, then its only for CM, if it says CM-MIUI then its for CM and MIUI
[HTC Inspire 4G] buzzboy:
Greetings, amazing Kernel, I heard a Rom is on the way? Looking forward to that.

Battery on BFS is astonising even with mild overcock.

Good luck and regards.
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
I never have any luck with your kernel unless it's the 1.0.9 MIUI. I tried 1.1.1 CM-MIUI kernel and could not send mms.

sent from me cellular device, eh?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
UPDATE

v1.1.3

- cpufreq: tune ondemand

- msm: rpc: remove unused variable

- ARM: msm: only create rpcrouter pdev once

- msm: rpc: Remove timeout in client's read thread

- i2c-core: fix runtime_pm issues

- i2c: Fix for suspend/resume issue

- i2c_msm: Fix potential NULL pointer dereference

- i2c: Fix checks which cause legacy suspend to never get called

- qup_i2c: Calculate combined write length for multiple write transactions

- cpufreq: interactive: fix possible Division by zero

- ASoC: msm7x30: Add mixer control to reset all sound devices

- ASoC: msm7x30: add mixer control to mute/unmute record device

- net: wireless: bcm4329: Skip dhd_bus_stop() if bus is already down

- net: wireless: bcm4329: Prohibit FW access in case of FW crash

Download hosted on Google Code

NOTE:

This is only a release for CM at the moment.. MIUI versions will be posted later today, I will post it here when they are up
[HTC Inspire 4G] dog77k:
New BFS working great here. Wish I could say the same about the latest nightly.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Dinman:
BFS running great!

now if I only had the matching. Existz rom ...lol
[HTC Inspire 4G] rasroygbiv:
Nice work as always my friend. Bfs is running smooth as silk...
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
You will enjoy it once he releases it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] DonJuan89:
1.1.3 BFS must be like the best kernel on thE DHD right now. Absoluty flawless for me.

Can't wait to see what will become of the "GGingerbeast" project :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] cubases:
MIUI vers. where is? :)

How version of Talon is better about battery consumption and wifi?
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Tried v.1.1.3 BFS this morning but within minutes it dropped the WIFI connection. Haven't had any problems with v.1.1.1 CFS on MIUI UK. I'm now on Cyanogenmod v.7.1 (stable). I then flashed v.1.1.3 CFS and all is well again. Can't figure out why I have problems with BFS kernels. The same issues occurred with LordMod UE BFS kernels.
[HTC Inspire 4G] DonJuan89:
LordMods BFS was a common issue for all I'd say. His CFS with the corresponding RIL on CM7 solved the dropping connection. But Talon BFS, at aleast for me. Works perfectly on Absolution CM MOD

EDIT: Seems to me the latest CM7 stable has trouble with BFS. As I said, BFS on Absolution is great and Talon CFS was great on CM7 again...pick your poison, I'd say ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] redwardson:
+1 on TA 1.1.3 BFS on Absolution 2.0
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
MIUI version is up..

Let me know if you have any audio issues
[HTC Inspire 4G] cubases:
Ok.. could you gently link me miui kernel download?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Link to downloads from Google Code are in the OP , but here ya go :P

http://code.google.com/p/talon-msm7x30/downloads/list
[HTC Inspire 4G] Trevino07:
talon1.1.3

Great work on the new kernals, sporting 1.1.3 and its running so smooth.keep up the good work
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Damn, was really liking this version (v.1.1.3 CFS) but I just now had Wifi connection drop :-( I'm back on v.1.1.2 CFS. Hatting that I'm the only one with this problem...

Sorry for the negativity, your are doing a fantastic job! Keep up the good work :-)

Sent from my Desire HD
[HTC Inspire 4G] cwhitney24:
CFS is working great on abso! Thanks for your hard work!!!!

I got your 10 char right here
[HTC Inspire 4G] cubases:
Thanks

Do you think that killersloth's script improve more battery comsumption?
[HTC Inspire 4G] Dinman:
Anticipating your aosp... great kernels!

So I know the Rom has gotta be a homerun.
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Just had WIFI drop op v.1.1.2 CFS also. Now trying a different radio. Getting kind of desperate here. Really want this kernel to work on my phone.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
I honestly dont think its kernel related, as wifi driver is exact same as most other kernels (lordmod, stock cyanogen..etc).. you can try wiping cache/dalvik cache, sometimes this clears up random ****.., also do me a favor and right after it drops connection pull me the dmesg log via adb..

adb pull dmesg > dmesg.txt
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Will do. Thanks :-)

Sent from my Desire HD

---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 PM ----------

I wipe cache and dalvik cache every time I flash a kernel :)

Sorry, where should I write this command? Terminal on the phone or cmd in Windows?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
You can actually pull dmesg log either way.., if you have sdk and adb setup on your computer, then plug phone into usb and do

adb pull dmesg > dmesg.txt

or if you want to do it from the phone, just use terminal emulator and do ..

dmesg > /sdcard/dmesg.txt

and that will save it on your sdcard..
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Okay. It worked in the terminal. I'll try it if the wifi drops again.

Thanks for your help.

Sent from my Desire HD
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
Sorry for the noob question. But why aren't everyone using the BFS version if it should be better than the CFS version?

Sent from my Desire HD
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Its not necessarily better..basically comes down to user preference. BFS uses a little more CPU, so in certain CPU related task, it can possibly be smoother...but with CFS w/ sched autogroup, it performs very well.. so one is not really better than the other, both perform roughly the same, but operate a little differently.. If you use alot of CPU intensive apps, or do alot of CPU intensive task, then you might see a small gain with BFS, otherwise CFS works about the same
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
Everytime I try a new kernel other than 1.0.9 for MIUI, my phone refuses to send picture messages. Anybody got a fix? I tried 1.1.1 BFS CM-MIUI and 1.1.3 MIUI CFS.
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
Check your APN settings. Sounds like they got messed up.
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
Where do I fix that?

sent from me cellular device, eh?
[HTC Inspire 4G] CpN82:
This will tell you were to go: http://paylesswireless.yolasite.com/

Remember to check with your cellular provider what the settings should be.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
Go into Wireless/Networks, then click Mobile Networks. Change the APN settings in there, then hit menu/save apn.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
v1.01 does not, but i will look into seeing if it can be added (still getting use to HTC and its drivers)
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Wi-fi working here on CM7. Let me guess...you're using MIUI?
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
I'm using MIUI and wifi works fine.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
I think there were issues with MIUI and LorDModUE. Something involving lib files, maybe check that thread to see.

Edit: this is referring to wifi issues with MIUI.
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
This kernel doesn't have the libsqlite.so file so it isn't an issue with MIUI and this kernel.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
Thanks. I stand corrected.
[HTC Inspire 4G] yokozuna82:
No just a sense rom pretty much stock looking 2.3.3
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
That's why. This is for AOSP ROMs
[HTC Inspire 4G] klbmth:
Nice to see a familiar, well respected, face from cappy forums, looking forward to hopefully see some sense kernels!
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
edit..

10char
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nickel Dime Bay:
Great dev from the Captivate forum, glad to see you made the jump.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
So i might have been wrong about dual mic, isn't it supported in cm kernel? as long as you run..

snd3254 -dspmode 0
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
@existz

Thanks for your work on this kernel. Donation sent. Confirmation number: 9VR37460AK473020H.

I have a couple of .xvid movies on my phone where the audio makes clicking and popping sounds during playback using every version of LordModUE kernel that I've ever used. However, there are no popping sounds using your kernel, so that is good news! It's good to finally have an AOSP kernel developer that actually has an Inspire phone (instead of Desire HD). There are some subtle differences between the 2 phones, so it helps to actually do your work on the same phone as your audience. Thanks again!
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Much, much appreciated kind sir! Yea it really helps actually having the device to test/troubleshoot ..i have that same problem on my Talon kernel for SGS, even though captivate is very similar, still some small differences that can mess things up.. again, thank you for your kindness, greatly appreciated
[HTC Inspire 4G] Kuronen:
Well, I tried it with MIUI and my Apple BT keyboard without any luck. I can use apps (like before) but they are all super buggy. I keep reading that the kernel is the issue for the HID support. Any advice or tips to make this possible? Or maybe only CM7 has HID support at the moment when it comes to ROMs? Thanks!
[HTC Inspire 4G] zelendel:
From what I understand (could be wrong) but CM doesn't support the dual mic as there are certain drivers needed for it from HTC. Kinda like the notice cancellation from the SGS where only a stock based kernel worked.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Jake33108:
Had to play around with my voltages a little bit to get things completely stable but it's running very well for me right now. My only request is to have the OndemandX governor included. It's in LordModUE kernels along with a few other good governors like InteractiveX and Brazilianwax. OndemandX was just always the smoothest for me, regular ondemand just doesn't get me quite the same performance. But this is a pretty awesome kernel as is! Good work.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Until i get the next release done, ive compiled OndemandX as a module and made it a CWM zip.., so simply flash the zip with CWM, it will install the module and create a startup script that will load the module on every boot.. Just use your preferred program to set governor as OndemandX (SetCPU..etc).. This is the current OndemandX pulled from latest LordMod sources
[HTC Inspire 4G] Jake33108:
Wow! Thanks for the quick fix! That .zip didn't actually work for me, so I just pushed the files to the appropriate locations with ADB. I didn't realize it was so easy to add governors. Working great for me right now!
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Oops.., ill fix the zip..sorry about that.. What was the exact issue with installing the zip?

But yea, as long as the governor can successfully be compiled as a module, then its pretty easy to just compile it as a module and use it as an add-on, however some governors error out compiling as a module, so only some can be done like this
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
Good call. Its all good in the hood now.

sent from me cellular device, eh?
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
Just kidding. It worked when I sent it to myself but not anyone else. APN settings same on 1.0.9 as 1.1.3.

sent from me cellular device, eh?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
I honestly dont think its kernel causing it.., something else is going on or getting screwed up somewhere.., Theres really nothing kernel wise that would effect this, also there hasnt been any changes since 1.0.9 that would cause it either.. Usually if the kernel is actually causing it, it more than likely would be happening to everyone, especially with something like this.

But i need a little bit more info to maybe help out,.. does it give an error? does it send but they do not recieve it?...etc..etc.. Also, what rom? what version?
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
Continually says "sending..." but all other data and texts and calls work. The only kernel they work on is the stock CM kernel that comes with MIUI and anything pre-cfs/bfs. I'm on MIUI.us Inspire 4G 1.11.11 rom.

sent from me cellular device, eh?
[HTC Inspire 4G] dhtlarmon:
I will be trying the new ROM too. These kernel releases are always stable so I have good expectations. :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
What apn settings are you using? I used to have issues when using the dual apn setup. I think CM based roms don't like the dual setup.

Went back to a single apn with type: default,admin,supl,mms.

Never had any mms issues after that. Hope that's all it is for you.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
existz - sent you a pm.

Also, does the kernel have a fast usb charge mode enabled? I am having issues with very long charge times in my car on the way to work. Charged faster when I was on a Sense rom, i think the kernel on that rom did have usb fast charge enabled.

Just want to make sure there isn't another issue going on with my setup.
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
Those are the working ones, which are identical whilst on either kernel.
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
double post, my bad
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
My only thought would be to put in what I had posted into the apn type.

Everything else looks fine. Give it a shot, who knows...?
[HTC Inspire 4G] cdordon:
That worked. Thanks, man.

sent from me cellular device, eh?
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
Awesome! Glad I could help.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
For those interested in TalonROM, I have made the latest beta a public beta..., everythings on http://code.google.com/p/talon-rom/ .., make sure to read the whole main page.. If coming from another ROM, as most of you are, make sure to wipe data/factory reset!.. (always make a backup first!) .. This is a BETA, so there may or may not be any bugs, if you run across any please post them in the Issue Tracker!!..

If you need to report any bugs, please report them on the issue tracker.., if you have any questions..etc.., you can PM me or join us on IRC (server: freenode.net, channel: #suckerpunch)

http://code.google.com/p/talon-rom/
[HTC Inspire 4G] buzzboy:
Great news.

Will report back Tomorrow.

Regards and Thanks
[HTC Inspire 4G] joedeuce:
No talonrom thread?

Inspire 4G // BlackICE
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Not for the Beta.., once I have an official release ill make a thread. Kinda just wanted to do this to get more of a widespread user base to track down the last noticable bugs before releasing
[HTC Inspire 4G] Dinman:
Downloading it right now. Thanks alot !
[HTC Inspire 4G] mrro82:
Been looking forward to this. Thanks existz!

Sent from the future with an Inspire 4G powered by Doc Brown and 1.21 gigawatts.
[HTC Inspire 4G] gvsukids:
Is there a dwnload link?
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Yes, under the downloads tab....
[HTC Inspire 4G] gvsukids:
Thanks! Didn't see that tab first time.
[HTC Inspire 4G] dhtlarmon:
So far so good on the ROM. Is this the default Google boot animation? I've also noticed the interface seems a bit snappier than CM. Quadrant is about the same though.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sumkee:
Your rom

To answer the Q up there: yes, that's ICS bootanimation:D

I am on your ROM for about 3 hours now. It's very smooth and fast. I can't comment on the battery just yet, but so far it's pretty darn good.

Thanks for the hard work man!