yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD Mini Android Development] pwel:
battery usage survey

just did a comparison between WM6 and android (R169). First I used the tips from tzacapaca ( http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17121059&postcount=1 ) which helped to reduce the sleep current to ~4mA. Then I used task panel to kill all applications. First I checked the effect of brightness of the illumination.

The results are (wifi,3G off):

HDM Mini WM6.5:

with carrier:

0% illu: 22mA

50% illu: 62mA

100% illu: 150mA

flight mode:

0% illu: 10-15mA

50% illu: 55-60mA

100% illu: 120-130mA

SD1: adata 8gB class 4

HDM Mini Android R169:

with carrier

0% illu: 110mA

50% illu: 159mA

100% illu: 220mA

flight mode:

0% illu: 110-120mA

50% illu: 160mA

100% illu: 210-220mA

SD2: Kingston 4gB class 4

HDM Mini Android R169:

with carrier

0% illu: 98mA

50% illu: 146mA

100% illu: 210-220mA

flight mode:

0% illu: 98mA

50% illu: 146mA

100% illu: 210-215mA

In addition, I asked on the Aria forum for their consumption. I got 2 responses:

ARIA1:

Flight mode:

0% - 41-61mA

50% - 81-121 mA

100% - 191-220 mA

Aria2:

0% illu: 107mA

50% illu: 178mA

100% illu: 218mA

flight mode:

0% illu: 70mA

50% illu: 119mA

100% illu: 179mA

Conclusion is that we are not far off from the Aria, except when in flight mode, that the consumption is much higher than with WM6.5 and that another SD card seems to differ about 10mA.

I then kept my illumination at 50% with the 8gB SD card:

Switching on wifi with just being connected and no activities does not add anything to the current. Same for BT and data connection

Sygic aura 2.1: 240mA

Angry birds season: 240 to 325mA

Twitter: 200 to 260mA

Browsing the web: 190-340mA

Checking mail: 230mA

Google maps: 230-390mA

Orux maps with internal GPS:230-240mA

Orux maps with external GPS via BT:165mA

I will try some more in the near future, also with WM6.5
[HD Mini Android Development] baggino:
eco voice

I made a call with Viber and have not had echo problems in both directions. I wanted to give this experience

;)

p.s. battery life will be longer with Nand ?
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Not very much. Thats what I can say from the HD2.
[HD Mini Android Development] fumasaku:
About battery consumption, i did the same thing, but even if the widget "battery consuption" is veryy useful to know the drain of energy, i had overall android issues with it :

Light of charge still lighting when phone unpluged after a full recharge (and so draining much energy), some freezes and stats that don't match. About this last point tthe fact was that when i lighted my phone i had a visu of my idle consumption (about 2 ~5 mA), but the fact is that the program need energy to write the log file, so in history i was almost always beetween 20 and 150 mA... so not realy useful to me.

All that to say that i uninstalled it and now my phone can stay up to 3 days with about 2 calls of 10/20 min a day, and little 3G internet... all that without any of the bugs i already mentionned.

when idle 3G is off, system R169, transcend 8Gb Class 10.
[HD Mini Android Development] pwel:
After some days looking at the current widget, I find that regularly, the idle current increases to 70mA plus. So there are some processes/services that prevents the device from going to sleep mode. But when it is ok, it really is 4mA, and that should include the energy for the widget log.
[HD Mini Android Development] mweber1980:
Is the echo solved with the google version R169?
[HD Mini Android Development] liorderei:
no, it hasn't been solved yet, at least for me
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
I don't have that issue with the r169.
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Me too. It may depent on the carrier and there noise canceling system.
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
hey guys,

just to keep you up to date:

our status of acoustic development: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=PhotonAcousticDevelopment

as you can see almost everything but FM and BT is fixed so far, we wish we could release that, but still having a little "reboot" problem when a call is missed.

we were a little bit out of time last weeks but dont worry we are still on it :)
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
thanks guys for making this still active...
[HD Mini Android Development] mweber1980:
I previous version the person that was calling me heard the echo my Carrier is Vodafone NL
[HD Mini Android Development] sp3dev:
btw, i've tried using a little app to switch the sound route during FM Radio - got sound

http://www.mediafire.com/?5abtltwa2pkchws

copy snd_ioctl into /data/local,

then

/data/local/snd_ioctl dev 10 (or 11) - sound is output via the speaker. So either the kernel needs a little fix or we need to drop the proprietary blobs of htc liberty in favor of acoustic from xdandroid project
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
I hope someone can guide me, after installing the 3g FIX, still not working here...is there another tweak we can try aside from formatting and put all the files back...
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
try to add manually APN settings
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Still not working..keep on getting the generic error. The default settinga has stopped unexpectedly..any other way to resolve it.same with my market..which version works on you..
[HD Mini Android Development] Sparrow:
I saw that this feature on the first post of this thread :

"overclocking/underclocking capabilities [from ladios]"

How can i overclock my system cause this one is very laggy on my device.

Thanks.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
download setcpu from market

---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------

install the app "APN restore & backup", and then "delete all APN". After this "add APN" and put in the settings off your telephone company

i have 3.15
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Thanks, will give it a try later tonight....
[HD Mini Android Development] jomaga:
We all have the same device, so, from my experience your laggy problem is caused by a slow SD card. I tested three of them with different brand/class and the speed is quite different. (my best one is an Sandisk 8gb class4). Overclock the device could improve a bit the performance, but not as noticeable as a different SD card

Try yourself

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Schlund, thanks for your work, echo problem is the main problem now (I can live with the other problems)

You said that FM and BT is fixed so far, and, from the PhotonAcousticDevelopment page I can see Audio output is working. This mean headset Stereo sound is fixed now?

thanks!
[HD Mini Android Development] Sparrow:
Thanks for the advice jomaga... but i tried several micro sd card with problem on boot.

My card is a kingston 4GB class 4.
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Still unable to delete the APNs..saying that unable to delete read only database..pls advise..thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] baggino:
I concur with the request

thanks :)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
delete the database using root explorer app and make sure u enable read/write (r/w)
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
I think you got me wrong, what i tried to say is that almost everything is working, but FM and BT not. Unfortunately "Stereo Headset" is still not fixed but echo is.
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
sorry, have not done it before..can you please guide me through, thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
download root explorer>set up the r/w function(is on upper left side)>browse with this explorer to the database file..telephony something..>delete the file>add your apn settings.

p.s. i haven't done that also as i don't have this problem,but i guess this should be the way:)
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Thanks for all the assistance got it working this time...i wander this would apply the same with my market as its working but will not last for 5 seconds and will close
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
i'm glad finally it worked for u :D

as for market..try this
[HD Mini Android Development] andymet87:
End Call ?? - how?

Hi all...

First of thanks so much to everyone putting the time and effort into this! As the windows mobile 6.5 services are now shutting down this is a real life saver... I have now got Android working very smoothly on my handset, its great.

The main snag I have found at the moment is when I phone someone/voicemail I cannot seem to hand up at the end of the call... My screen turns off when I make the call, the on/off/wake button does nothing, and the old end call button does nothing! Am I missing something or is there a small error there?

Its not an issue when I call someone as when they hang up my phone does too, however with voicemail it just carries on repeating the menus!

Thanks again all!
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
1. if the end call soft button does nothing then your display is broken

2. the end call hardware button is mapped to google search(if you didn't notice),so it will never end a call :)

3.you probably do something wrong

4. Did you try this http://tinyurl.com/6khjtxk ?
[HD Mini Android Development] andymet87:
- I cannot access the soft end call button as the screen never comes on again when i take the phone away from my ear. And the wake/on/off button is also unresponsive.

- I thought this was the case!

- like what!??

..... and then!

- I did! but I did not read it in full. My screen protector was the problem! It was preventing the sensor from working properly!

Very sorry for being a useless person not researching the problem properly before posting ! Your help is much appreciated!
[HD Mini Android Development] Adje Patatje:
Is the End call issue only an Android problem?

If it's also a WM problem, zappakappa is right, it will probably be a hardware problem. My phone did have the same problem, caused by hardware (HTC sent me a new phone after the 4th hardware problem ;) ).

Zakkapakka, you must be a truelly big fan of the Google search machine :) ;)

Aha! Problem already solved :)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
It's not about being a fan...I just think it's better to do the way I do(use google then if it doesn't help post the question/s)

P.S. Were you drunk or your hands were shaking when you typed my name?

You said twice my name and both different and wrong lol :D
[HD Mini Android Development] pwel:
I had the end of call issue with both WM and android after I forgot to put back the rubber part that shields it. It worked again. Still every now and then it seems to work bad: I have the idea that after reassembling the phone, it sometimes moves the touchscreen/display a bit up and then also the proximity sensor does not work. Then I push back the touchscreen and all is fine. Can be checked with androsensor from market.
[HD Mini Android Development] swissly:
You do have a problem with your proximity sensor. Try cleaning it or read the discussion here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18089502&highlight=proximity#post18089502
[HD Mini Android Development] superzuan:
you can also test your proximity sensor with elixir. Than go to sensors and click on proximity sensor. It muss say FAR. When it says NEAR then there is something in front of your proximity sensor.
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Iam still getting the error using yourcmarket file..has stopped unexpectdly..is there anyway to increase the space..when i initially installed ur android.cant get the market working
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
are you running out of space?
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
go to aplications/allAps/android market and uninstall all updates for market app, then your market will work:)
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Sorry, i dont see that path..tried to search for market theres nothing...which file name or directry i need to look for...thanks in advance

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Sorry i dont seem to have that path..any other way to get there? pls advise. thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
its not folder, its an submenu under application menu! Click on 3rd button, click settings and under aplication menu you will see option for it... go to all aplications and look for market, click on market and you will see option "uninstall all updates"... after that your market will work
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
thanks, already done it, but don't have Wifi connection at the office right now, will check later tonight...thanks a lot
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
how can you manage to completely or force kill the application...because every now and then when running the TASK KILLER it will still show most of the applications running...in WIndows when you have them killed, it will be completely killed, and why in Android it keep on opening..how to kill those applications off? please advise
[HD Mini Android Development] superzuan:
can not in android.
[HD Mini Android Development] baggino:
echo voice

I kindly ask to that point you are with the problem Echo.

thanks for the whole time that you invest for the project of all us.

:)
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
Do I really need to change the frequency to help out for battery to last? what Frequency is the best for this ROM? please advise. Thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] cherryva:
Getting reasonable battery life with

Sdcard - Samsung 4GB Class4

ROM r169 with update folder from Final2.2.rar

Battery apps - Battery update v1.91 + BatteryLife

Total Time 24-26hrs

Call time 2hrs+

GPS - 10 min 2 occasions

Edge - just to download stock market status 3 times 2-3 min each
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
is bluetooth sending files with this works? somehow it's not working with me...anyway to resolve it, thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] cherryva:
I was able to send a picture file to Nokia C2 with my setup using bluetooth
[HD Mini Android Development] Ciccius:
yes, sending files works, but i'm not able to receive...
[HD Mini Android Development] ntkhoa:
Is this still on gent?
[HD Mini Android Development] Wowser:
Of course it is still in development.

Surely it is not that difficult to realize from reading through these forums and the other Google Code release pages for HD Mini that if the developers have something to post or have fixed the random rebooting problem, they will put it here? Have some faith and patience.
[HD Mini Android Development] cbolumar:
I had the same error com.android.phone stop .....

I resolved it reinstalling the last version r169 from cero.

All is working OK now.

Regards.
[HD Mini Android Development] mqd:
same here

all working well nice works devs team
[HD Mini Android Development] old.splatterhand:
Does this mean, we can delete the swap file from SD Card?
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
I do not know for sure, but I think you have a problem with mixing versions. Not all versions are compatible, i mean: Do not use update or fix before you read the for wich version that is intended. And for first boot always

without SIM

!
[HD Mini Android Development] ed435270:
Bluetooth headset (r169)

Great rom, great work!!! Thanks a lot.

Tried Bluetooth headset, still not working. It can pair the headset but no sound on call. This is important for driving. :)
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/list
[HD Mini Android Development] fatslim:
Hi, like to report something i noticed is that with munjeni release the back is not warm but with this release it gets warm, as it was with previous release, i dont know why. Maybe its because i did not do a clean install, and just copied over munjeni realse with this one :). any suggestions ?
[HD Mini Android Development] Ciccius:
yeah, I removed it and it works anyway
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
make a clean install and you will have no problems other than those known. when you charge the battery and in the same time surf the web via wi-fi, is normal to warm up your phone..
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
there are 3 things that warm up your "back":

-use of wifi/bluetooth

-heavy use of sdcard (first boot i.e., installing great apps, everything that causes high traffic on sdcard)

-charging on ac (~900ma)
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
It seems there is still a problem with charging.

Battery was at 72%, connected the phone to USB and after about 5 seconds the charging level was 100%

Unplugged back to 72%

Anyone else having same problem?

edit: sorry, this problem is still in development I see...
[HD Mini Android Development] diaahussein:
guys thanks for the great work

i confirm battery performance is much better

USB detection is fixed

waiting for you new releases :)
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
thanks for your feedback.

1° this is a enhancement request, you can open a new request in http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/list

2° and 3° are known issue see here http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/detail?id=16

4° what should we do with this file? are you referring to this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=664532

i am personally not fan of adding any kind of tweaks in the stock roms, specially on this kind of ethical topic, i think it is easy to do with a patch file however.
[HD Mini Android Development] yakamoz:
Release is running fine. I tried to charge my phone and faced the problem mentioned above the phone jumping between different loading states. My question is: is this just a software problem and the battery is charging properly or does the loading process also stop when the indicator shows 100%? Because this qould end up in too much loading cycles, that would shorten battery life!
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
here is some info about this http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/detail?id=67

and about loading process as i know when battery gets 100% charged the charging process is stopped by hardware..but just to be 100% sure wait for r0bin or schlund to confirm this:)
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
AC charging is excellent and battery isn’t hot :)
[HD Mini Android Development] fatslim:
Ok ill try that. btw i wasnt doing anything and it was still warm, but maybe it is because i did not do a clean install. Thanks for advice
[HD Mini Android Development] fernando2610:
Hi, when i charge with AC i got 41° battery :-o , its only me?
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
You are welcome, hopefully you have more fun next time

EDIT:

r169 contacts can not be imported from SIM , in the r134 + + worked well, and in r167 also...
[HD Mini Android Development] DmK75:
I charged phone to 100% and disconnect AC.

But after some minutes phone shows that it's "charging" and green led switched on...
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
it's an indicator issue, from the battery driver.

the algorithm for charge is based on time, but since we have a time bug issue specially on usb, it is computing badly: needs to be fixed.

nothing bad will happen to your battery.

and you can continue the charge even if it is showing you 100%

the charging mecanism and controls are performed by hardware, the battery driver is just an indicator.

and for your information, the li-ion battery life is not affected by charge cycles. you can charge it whenever you want it wont affect it.

strange, I didnt changed the android partition in r169 compared to r167/r134.

only swap is deactivated. it should work as before.

yes i faced the same issue. sometimes, specially when phone is on sleep, the SMEM doesnt get updated and you miss the event "cable unplugged".

the green led is on, then it goes orange, and a few time later it comes back to normal.

but it has no effect on battery don't worry.
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
Thanks for the new release, I installed r169 from scratch, works good. But yesterday there were 3 freezes. 1 time LED lights were still on but I had to always put out the battery and reboot. Is there a way I can log when / where the freezes happen? Because I cannot really tell when this happens...
[HD Mini Android Development] kndlsz:
Need a Kitchen Build Version

Anyone who has the answer how can I get a kitchen build of this version? Because I need to install a voice library for text to voice function, but unfortuntly, it all not could be installed into both R167 R169 and Munjeni's any version, I guess it should be the locking of the system or something.

I could install svox's voice library into R134++, and text to voice was working, and only working in this release. and R134++ is the kitchen build verson.

Or anybody can teach me a way to install that things into a new version? TKS!
[HD Mini Android Development] Dingoman10:
Android Market Problem after update to r169

Hello to all!

First of all I want to thank all developers for their great work!

Its nice to have Android-Feeling on HD Mini.

But I have found one bug:

I read the first post and updated from munjeni r134++ to googlecode r169. I overwrote all but the system.ext2.

Now startet my phone and going to get some applications through Android Market.

The phone started downloading files but after three seconds it stops the download for some issue. So no installation too.

Someone with same problems?

Maybe it has something to do with munjeni r134++ and the googlecode update.

Ill try to do a clean install of googlecode r169 and will report later if bug persists.

Again: Great work so far! Thanks!

Waiting for my LG Optimus Black P970....maybe same problems...:)

Edit: I reinstalled on a clean SD-Card. It seem that this has solved my problem.

So far apps are downloaded and installed correctly.

I am now trying to install Sygic Mobile Maps 10 8.24....

29.08.2011 17.30: Sygic Mobile Maps 10 8.24 and so GPS is working fine.
[HD Mini Android Development] thomas_b:
As I am facing the same problem, could anyone please give me more details on the solution? How do I fix this?

Tia!
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
What is the exact eror?
[HD Mini Android Development] thomas_b:
Phone process dies and restarts, I have to re-enter the PIN a few times a day.
[HD Mini Android Development] swissly:
I had the same but I tried an update from munjeni release, not a clean install. I thought this was causing the issue in my case...
[HD Mini Android Development] ecstasynathan:
YOu Know what... i experienced the same issue and i was surprised thinking "This is a miracle!!" then later realised that its jsut an error with fone... LOL:D
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
http://code.google.com/p/photon-and...move_your_SIM_card_for_the_first_android_boot
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Haha, cool bootanimation, robin! :)

Thanks for the update!
[HD Mini Android Development] havlaz:
cant run android at all...

do i need spacial card? i formatted to fat32 and no go, i tryed with another card - still no go.

i tryed diffrent wm rom - no go

what is wrong?!
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
What to do if Android wont boot:

if you still have issues with boot, go buy a new SDCard.

http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/wiki/Android_Installation_Tutorial
[HD Mini Android Development] havlaz:
Tryed 2 diffrent cards..

And for the agriment.. mabye the developers will explane me why some card works and others wont? And why cant a massage apper of "bad card" or something...
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
maybe this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1238944 :confused:

If you have linux machine try fdisk after runing android to see if you have corupted sd card!
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
see this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1229439
[HD Mini Android Development] hcchua:
r169

hi r0bin,

Wifi is working! Camera working! 3G is working!

Well done on the battery life had been extended!

Problem on the wifi-hotspot. Initial when turn on it

working, when the backlight go off ont the screen.

Wifi signal still present, but data stop! Click

the power button, the screen came back and the data

flow back to normal again!

Oops?

Still having bluetooth headset problem, able to pair

and able to play music, but not able to tranfer to

call to the handset only!

Thank you.