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[TouchPad General] samomamo:
If no android then its ****. I don't like the webos. ANDROID is farrrrrrrrr better.
[TouchPad General] lazarus2297:
I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..

I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
[TouchPad General] cchase231:
I really like it, I think webos makes more sense on a tablet than android currently does, but that's imho. Its a shame they dumbled in the beginning of the os game, it could've been something special. Inductive charging is really cool, I misses that after I got rid of my pre and its cool to have it back. I'm surprised more devices don't have it. The tp isn't great for app happy people, but out of the hundreds of appa I've tried on ansroid I only use 3 or 4 of them regularly ans the tp's internet ia more than capable of replacing some of them.
[TouchPad General] iiibdsiil:
For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it. I'd like to see some more games on the WebOS side but at $150 I'm happy with it and it wouldn't be worth any substantial money to have more.
[TouchPad General] brendonsmall:
Even if Android doesn't come, I am happy with my purchase. I really like the way a lot of things work in webOS. But I will replace the OS with android if it gets a polished build.

Even if you only use the touchpad as a digital picture frame, you can't get one with this size and quality of screen for $99.
[TouchPad General] sark666:
You wouldn't pay more than 150 even if it had android on it? Say it was an official android device and it was 200 bucks. You wouldn't think that was a deal?
[TouchPad General] CB620:
Like it so far the audio is great.
[TouchPad General] Loggerhead87:
Mine is sitting quietly in my office, waiting for someone to work some magic with Android. I've played around with webOS for a few hours but that got boring fast. This is my first tablet purchase and even at the firesale price I'm not impressed. I see little use for tablets beyond being a source of occasional entertainment for people with money to burn.
[TouchPad General] guinnes.s:
i manage to get two 32gb,

i give one to my wife with the intent to keep it stock webos and the other for me to play and maybe flash android one day.

i love android ,but 115 british pounds for a capacitor screen with a browser that support flash,a decent email client,photos and video playing,music sound good(due to the thickness of the tablet i think the speakers take advantage of that),just a bit heavy.

what there is to don't like.??

definitely not a 400pounds worth,but definitely 115.

don't forget the nice 50gb free cloud space that comes with it.

thumb up for me.
[TouchPad General] bay_wolf:
So far, I love my decision to purchase it. I picked two up, one for me and one for the girlfriend. WebOS is very smooth and looks amazing but needs some more apps which could come with the huge influx of Touchpads. I will be looking forward to an android port just to mess around with it and decided which to keep.

I've currently applied a few speed patches and have it overclocked to 1.5GHz and it flies.
[TouchPad General] daisaw1219:
I feel like the screen clarity sucks. I have never used a tablet before, except a brief use of a ipad during a checkout, but the touchpad screen looks blurry to me. It remind me of the old school color screen nextel phones i95.
[TouchPad General] buzz killington:
I've had it for almost a day now. Very happy after I finally got the patch installed, it's pretty ridiculous to have to click the thing 20 times to get the patch to finish.

When I bought it I had fully intended to flash android when it's ported, but now I think I'm going to stick with webos for quite a while. There's nothing that I really miss from the Nook Color so far, and webos has a far better browser and keyboard than android.
[TouchPad General] UntoldGlory:
I bought one and ordered another (that I hope will someday arrive). After playing with this one for a few days... I wish I had bought a few more.

Yeah, app catalog is lacking, but as a previous poster said, $100-150 for a 9.7" capacitive, snappy internet slate is awesome. I'd love to permanently mount one in the kitchen for recipes and whatnot, and replace the "family calendar".
[TouchPad General] imjimmy:
Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.

The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
[TouchPad General] deadeye0908:
Same thing happened to me when I plugged in my beats by Dre solo hds.. did the software update and problem was eliminated..
[TouchPad General] info[]box1:
Proud owner its still in the unopened box, haven't had time to open it and get into it enjoyably.Plan to keep it stock Web OS, I owned a palm pre and enjoyed it. I still believe Web OS is underrated and some users don't see the brilliance of it. I would have paid more if I had to. But the idea of flashing anything on it talks to the flashing geek in me haha. I would be more interested in flashing window 7 on it (not sure if it's a option) just saying.

Enjoy...
[TouchPad General] squeakyl:
the built in app is decent at PDFs

I'm actually surprised by how much I like mine. I have a honeycomb tablet, also, and the hp is actually very enjoyable to use. It definitely lacks in expandability, since the app catalogue is def smaller, but I actually like it a lot.

That being said, definitely not worth the original price. 150$ (32gb) maybe.... we'll see in a few weeks.
[TouchPad General] TooSlo:
after a string of cancelled orders, I decided to just suck it up and buy one from CL. I paid about 40$ over tax+shipping but it's worth not having to deal with shopping around while at work. I'm much more productive and I actually have my toy in my hands.

That being said I'm keeping my eyes open for a 16gb for my daughter to play with, hopefully HP SMB will have some more tomorrow.
[TouchPad General] scifan:
Am I happy with it...

Well, I liked webos when I had a Pre... though the hardware wasn't very sturdy.

I miss some of the extra applications available under Android... probably the #1 thing I miss from android is Swype...

If android never materializes... I think I'll still be fairly happy... some things don't work quite as I expect... eg play lists synced with Media monkey... I haven't toyed with Video as yet... that's on my list...
[TouchPad General] phistyle:
After all the tweaks I'm really liking webos and the card system...makes multitasking so easy on a tablet. Only downside is the lack of apps and the weight of the tablet
[TouchPad General] Isadora:
I'm reasonably pleased with it, but I'm not overwhelmed by the experience. I mean it works and there's nothing inherently wrong with webOS but the lack of apps is shocking and there are a few things that irritate me. I really need to have a good look round PreCentral to see what patches are available.

I'd say it's a good gadget to grab in the firesale but I'm not surprised they couldn't shift them at the original price :rolleyes:
[TouchPad General] tmspyder:
Lame response ... care to validate your position as the others have done???

As a owner of multiple android devices i respond as such...

Yes I agree android has more apps ect.. but as for being " far better" you need to substantiate your claim.

For one, I have in the last 6 days been nothing but impressed.

from the card system to the speed of the entire system after "preware" and "uberkernal"

If a android emulator were to be developed to even the app count ...

Cost vrs. device received = win Imo.
[TouchPad General] XDAnoobr:
Though B&N cancelled my order I could get one at Amazon and must say that it is completely worth the $99
[TouchPad General] bigo1087:
Just got my 32GB last week the day the price drop happened. Go to play with it yesterday. Besides the slight heaviness of it and lack of apps on webos. Its worth every penny.

I just installed Preware, did all the patches and OC to 1.5GHZ in 10 minute total time and its wicked snappy fast now.

also i've been an adroid fan since Day 1. I also wanted an asus TF to replace my labtop when going to school this fall. But WebOS is very polished and I love the fact they let you install homebrew and customize it really easy
[TouchPad General] techpreneur:
Love it. I was actually shocked by how much I like webos. Sure it's lacking apps but most of those apps have a website I can access as well. One thing I did notice is the brower is better than the ones on android tab. Some websites were not working correctly on my android tablet but they load fine on the touchpad.
[TouchPad General] kalala:
Is PreWare freeware? On the website, it doesn't seem to allow me to download it and asks me to buy a homebrew app from the market. Is that right?
[TouchPad General] feyd1980:
I am undecided after 2 days. I paid 115 pounds for the 32 GB version, as a "feature tablet" it is fine. It serves my needs as an Internet browser and video player (more than a Tegra 2 tablet although I would have preferred a 16/10 display).

Well, there are no apps though and that spoils the fun but I don't complain much at this price.
[TouchPad General] Jaredsk74:
Ah I love this tablet, it was such a good buy. Really can't get much better than the price point. And WebOS is a nice operating system, it's a real shame HP is killing it off, it has so much potential. The multitasking in the OS is great, I like it much more than Android's multitasking. I am psyched to see Android on it, but I hope it's a dual boot setup, I like both OSs a lot.
[TouchPad General] rayacer:
Does the OC effect the battery life substantially?
[TouchPad General] lrn2swim:
you guys are nuts. this tablet runs circles around any android tablet out there. while i'll do love android, webOS is easily the best OS available. and who needs apps when you have a fully functioning web browser? you know how to make bookmarks and apply them to the homescreen?
[TouchPad General] Blank2k2:
I'm liking mine for e-mail checking and quick reference look up, disapointed by the lack of facebook updates (doesn't support Login Approval - big security hole) & will be a nice bedside clock once I get a cheap touchstone

Android is far far superior as you can just think of something and there's an app for it - wouldn't hesitate to flash it with android, although flash content on WebOS is nice.

But for £89, its a bargain... for £200 it'd be not bad..... for £399, I'd of returned it & bought a Galaxy Tab.
[TouchPad General] phobos512:
Even if Android never comes (but it will), it will still be able to Web browse, read books, chat, video call, browse forums, email, etc.
[TouchPad General] yareally:
Anyone that regrets it can PM me to sell me their touchpad for 16gb $150 or 32 for $175 :D lol
[TouchPad General] panyan:
id dint think that webos would be good, i got it for android development - but now i think webOS is pretty good for tablets

i like the contact skype/gtalk in one

i like the way it manages open windows

i like the way the notifications work
[TouchPad General] Starfire-1:
More capabile Linux under the hood

What I like most about webOS is that the Linux distro under the hood is more "standard" than that under Android. Memory management in libc jumps out as an example. I can also use the optware build system to build ipk files for easier management, again under the hood.

The homebrew and potential for porting standard Linux apps is what I find intriguing.
[TouchPad General] h0rd4k:
Happy with most of it so far, just a shame it can't charge properly from pc.

I left my ac plug at work and thought it would be ok to use the one from my xperia or my galaxy s charger. Assumed they would all be the same, but they only give 0.7a, the hp plug is 2a. So again I get a warning on the screen. It still charges but just very slow.

Also some backlight bleed on one side, but at £89 I don't really care. If I paid full price that would really bug me though :)

Nice to see they will still support, but not sure to what extent http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8723949/HP-UK-reaffirms-commitment-to-supporting-TouchPad.html
[TouchPad General] gomorrah:
I bet this guy regrets his purchase...he just paid +$200 for a picture of a Touchpad...lol http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hp-Touchpad-16Gb-No-RESERVES-8x11-pics-/160642606805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25670ba6d5&autorefresh=true#ht_500wt_1413
[TouchPad General] ponyboy82:
I only played around with it last night finally, but I have to say I like WebOS quite a bit. Like other people mentioned, I wasn't expecting much and partly got it because it was (a) on an amazing sale and (b) promises of android, etc. Hopefully WebOS sticks around in some form. It's pretty slick. I haven't played with iOS too much, but it has a very Mac-y feel going (in a good way). I caught myself thinking a few times that it was how a tablet os should feel. So far I don't miss all the gaming apps from android (many of which, honestly, are mediocre at best). The one thing that's achingly lacking though is multimedia -- specifically video streaming. If this had Netflix and/or Hulu, it would be just about perfect.

On a bummer of a side note though, I realized mine has a single dead pixel in almost the middle of the screen :( I guess you get what you pay for ;)
[TouchPad General] lyrical1278:
Majority of the people who say they prefer Android over WebOS is because Android has more apps. That isn't the fault of the OS that's the fault of the dev community and the creators of the OS.

I feel WebOS is hands down superior to Android. It just functions and performs up to task better and multitasking is vastly better.

The ONLY downside to webos is the amount of apps on it is dwindled by the amount of apps on Android.
[TouchPad General] yareally:
It's not really the fault of the development community for it either. Webos 3.0 is new and the touchpad is the only device that ran webos 3.0. On top of that, until recently, was way overpriced. WebOS/Palm has one of the oldest mobile development communities in existence that dates back as long or longer than Windows Mobile. HP just dropped the ball on them when they bought up Palm and have pretty much left the former WebOS team that worked for Palm with little funds and little interest in competing with android/ios when Mark Hurd, the CEO that bought Palm was ousted and replaced with an outsider that was only interested in enterprise software (former SAP CEO). Webos 3.0 was even less appealing than honeycomb on android until they dropped the price. I'd say that will change a bit now.
[TouchPad General] deadeye0908:
Lmfao damn that sucks! Kinda deserves it for not reading the full description..
[TouchPad General] Hitch_Itch:
I got lucky today and bought 2 touch pads from my local best buy. When I walked in they day around 30 pads left, by the time I left the store they were sold out

I defintly bought them for a android port. Actually I'm typing this on my Toshiba thrive. I'm sure the xda devs will get android to work, there is a large cash prize for the dev who gets it ported and stable first.

If by some odd chance they can't get android on it I will probably give them both to the kids to mess with.

At $100 each I'm not going to ***** about it. It will surf the net just fine if nothing else
[TouchPad General] lrn2swim:
totally agree.
[TouchPad General] muyoso:
It functions and performs up to task better and multitasking is vastly better? Go load up a website, and then longpress on a link and select "open in new tab" and then click on the original card before the new tab can fully load. Then wait 3-4 hours and check if the background tab has finished loading yet. Hint: It never ever loads. So WebOS ships with basically a semi non functional browser, easily the worst of any mobile OS I have used in the past 5 years including Android, iOS and Windows Mobile.

The concept of WebOS is great. The implementation many times is not. They simply haven't spend enough time polishing it. The apps aren't there. The developer support isn't there. The stock apps are not up to snuff. The hardware of the Touchpad is amazing. The software is all over the place. Take for example the fact that across the OS when you are clicking through things and in menu's, the back button could be either non existent, at the top left or at the bottom left. These things should be made consistent and standard or your product looks like it was thrown together.

Just to clarify, I am beyond elated at my 157 dollar purchase. I have multiple more on order and I have been calling Best Buy all over the place to see if I could get more to give as gifts. I just think that HP could have done SOOOO much better. Cannot wait for Android to get ported to this.
[TouchPad General] GAMERG1RL:
I have an iPad and HTC EVO View. I am dying to open it but logic says to sell it! Is it with keeping if you gave other tablets?
[TouchPad General] bojangalz:
Coming from the android realm I'll be a bit downtrodden if we never get a solid; full functioning port. But I'd recently began to see the utility in having a tablet for basic web surfing and video while travelling and being away from the house.

For $100, it's hard to go wrong here. After installing all the necessary patches, and overclocking this baby performs admirably. So I'm please with the money spent.

I'll be completely stoked however if one day it can recognize ad-hoc wifi and we've got a solid Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwitch build to run on.

There are just a few things about WebOS that I'll never get used to and simply don't care for. Most of which is the inability to run multiple tabs in the browser. I can't understand for the life of me who thought the current configuration was a good idea in today's internet space. Bringing up an entirely new window is ridiculous.

I also don't care so much for the use of real estate on the desktop. I for one prefer to actually see the wallpaper that I decide to use. And putting a full card smack dab in the middle of my screen without the ability to minimize it completely out of view is a big flaw imo.

Outside of that I'm loving the fact that I can throw on my TV shows and take them with me as I go. The video is crisp and the audio is fantastic. The browser seems more than capable of rendering full flash on websites too. The only other browser problem that's cropped up has be on pages when you hover a curser over a link to open an additional menu. That seems to make the page reload and you cannot access the menu itself.
[TouchPad General] seboj:
I'm 100% satisfied with my purchase, even if Android never gets properly ported. My only regret is not buying a 2nd one for the Mrs.

After using it pretty much non-stop over the last 4 days, I have to say that webOS is a legit, polished, solid tablet OS. The apps that made it into the Catalog are incredibly well-done. The only real con I have is with the overall weight of the tablet, a little on the heavy side. Obviously webOS doesn't have the insane amount of customizations and options that Android has, but overall, it puts out a more complete, more refined tablet user experience.

The only way I'll even consider putting Andriod on it is if it's the latest Honeycomb or possibly ICS. Even then, if it seems like there's a decent amount of dev work going into Homebrew apps, I'll probably leave webOS on it.*

I'll definitely be buying another one when HP releases more.

*as reference, I've been an Android fanboi for over a year
[TouchPad General] Kalram:
I'm pretty sure I'll not use Android on this tablet, at least not on a daily basis (I can't refuse to try something exciting so it'll certainly run it a few times eventually).

I discovered that mobile OS on my recent Xperia Neo (Gingerbread) and found it to be a bunch of different looking app thrown together. I struggled to get a consistent look'n'feel on my phone, and while it's possible thanks to the numerous apps, I would have preferred a more unified look out of the box. I'll try some pure Android version however when I get the chance to, probably Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich.

But for now, I find that the WebOS user experience fits my needs, and I'm going to get a Pre3 if I can. Of course, it lacks the apps diversity of Android, but I think this can evolve in the good direction.

I'm not saying WebOS is perfect, of course it can be improved and I hope it will, but for the moment I'm very satisfied with that tablet, and still have a lot to discover.
[TouchPad General] Hitch_Itch:
I thought WEB OS was dead and there will be no further development unless a third party takes it over and tries to do something with. Also thought whatever apps are there now is all there will be, Didnt think any of the devs would continue making apps for a dead OS.

I dont know much about WEB OS, I am a android guy
[TouchPad General] rockbio:
having an xoom and atrix and waiting 2hrs on bestbuy line for 99$ touchpad....I would say its worth it (for the $$).....only thing I have to say is webOS is way better for multitasking....and I believe it could be easily adopted to android...
[TouchPad General] naxir:
While I believe in a person's freedom of choice and that one size does not fit all, I am generally a google/android fanboy. With that said, I like a lot of things about webOS. If honeycomb/ICS doesn't come for 6 months, I won't regret my purchase, but if it never comes, I might. The interface is nice, but so far I have two main annoyances.

1. The browser: when I log into a website, for example XDA, I have to force refresh for the page to display me as logged in.

2. The keyboard: It's kind of cumbersome for the form factor. I don't have small hands but reaching to the middle of the screen for the g/h is annoying. I would prefer a split keyboard, but it appears that you can't replace the native keyboard like you can do in android.

My problems may be resolvable, I haven't looked into them much as I've only had my TP for a day, but we'll see.
[TouchPad General] piiman:
Really? How so?
[TouchPad General] piiman:
This is how I feel about tablets in general. Never thought they were worth the money. But for $99.00 wtf. If I decide I don't like it I'll stick in a corning and have it display pictures. Can't go wrong at that price. I've had mine for less than 24 hours but it does what it does just fine. I have yet to say "Damn why can't it do such and such Android can.
[TouchPad General] piiman:
Perhaps you need glasses or have a bad one. Mine is clear as can be.
[TouchPad General] piiman:
mine doesn't play through speaker when I plug in a headset. I'm not sure what version I have I couldn't get the latest it kept timing out, I figured the servers are getting hammered.
[TouchPad General] grannyrogers:
I am loving the touchpad. The sound quality of the speakers is amazing!! Absolutely better sound than my Sony vaio laptop. The browser is fast and plays flash and html5. So far I am happy with it. I have the 32 gb version.
[TouchPad General] jptesar:
I'm liking it so far. More apps would be nice. I run CM7 on my nook color, closest thing I had to a tablet. I prefer the ereaders on android but thats my only complaint. I tried out both pReader versions(alpha and regular release). It seems to generate a lot of unknown words and paragraphs are all run together.
[TouchPad General] piiman:
HP says they will honor the warranty for a year so give them a call.