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[HD Mini Android Development] Ciccius:
This morning started to charge my phone after 48 hours since last charge!!

Normal usage, several calls, wifi and 3g internet browsing and application download, GPS stats check (i was curious to see if italian high speed train can reach 300 km/h, and it does! XD ). I have no words to say thank you to all devs!

But...

this morning, i said, i connected my phone to the laptop to charge and selected "charge only" and after 2 minutes it reboot itself and starts android automatically. I selected "charge only" and it reboot again. Third time I selected "USB mass storage" and now is working well. I don't know if it is a known issue.

Ciao
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
iam planning to get kingston but pls advise me whoever got it working. iam trying to choose between 4gb class 10 or 8gb class 4. pls advise. thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773077

and this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11452517&postcount=8

and this http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918

class 10 will drain battery faster than class 4 so i advise you to get a class 4

Good luck on your purchase :)
[HD Mini Android Development] wencyv:
thanks for the response, but could anyone confirm that theyve got it working using kingston 8gb class 4? or should i try sandisk 8gb class 4?
[HD Mini Android Development] derefas:
sandisk don't work
[HD Mini Android Development] jomaga:
I have two sandisk and one trascend and:

Sandisk 8Gb Class2. Works perfect, fast, never had a problem

Sandisk 8Gb Class4. Works perfect, very fast, never had a problem

Trascend 16Gb Class10. Works perfect but very slow, not for daily use

All bought from official stores (take care with fake cards)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
it does work

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773077

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11452517&postcount=8
[HD Mini Android Development] pwel:
it is not black and white. like it works or it doesn't work. the first link is to a poll in which sandisk comes out as a winner. But I believe this only due to the fact that Sandisk is the most sold card. This will probably also explain why the most bad stories on the forum (including my own two sandisks 2Gb NOT working at all) are about Sandisk. In my opinion, the real statistics of Sandisk is not known, so it is impossible to predict which is the better choice
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
my SanDisk 2Gb class 2 works fine,

my SanDisk 4Gb class 4 works fine and is fast,

my SanDisk 16Gb class 4 doesn't work, Android will not boot.

this week I will have a Transcend 8Gb class 10 to test...
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
time bug ...
[HD Mini Android Development] hcchua:
FM radio not function properly

hi r0bin,

Once my headphone is plug in to my phone, I try to use

the FM radio function, it pop up the fm function,

then search the station but the headphone did not

have any music at all.

I try to play mp3 player, and it works!

Thank you.
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
I want to report issue about temperature. Phone s so hot and run out of battery after 2 hours. I make a clean installation.

So please check if there s problem with battery code,munjeni version do not suffer this issue
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
yes, time display is not refreshed in title bar, but the main clock is OK.

its more like a UI issue.

yes, known issue. FM is not fixed.

if it is not on the list yet, you can add it here:

http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/list

i didnt experienced this, my phone is cool at all times of the day, running r169
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
check if any programs which use battery alot are opened or wireless connections are on,gps,those are the factors which makes phone "hot".and actually not phone is hot but the area where is the sd card placed :)
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
I had one freeze yesterday, today also one freeze, don't know why, happens when phone is in sleep.

have no apps running, no wifi, no gps, ...

any suggestions?

I use the r169 + updates
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Can someone confirm a constant battery drain of ~70mA with Wifi on?
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
Cell standby use most power, simcard of myphone s really hot (confirm no 3g)

I will give more test with air plane mode,remove sim... and report later
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
when display is on or on suspend mode?
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
That s what I am testing too. It seem wifi consume a lit of power

From image above,we can see cell standby and wifi use too much power,why in a normal fone,most power is for display if we turn on phone and use it for surfing with wifu (about 85%)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
hmmm what updates are u talking about?
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
He means when phone s sleeping,if we turn on,50% it will freeze :-( and need to turn on/off again.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
i asked about updates he is talking about because r169 has a single "file"(except 3G fix for those with problems)not what happens when phone is turning on and percentage of this to happen lol
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
tzacapaca: sure I mean with display off :)

maxxoros: its not a good idea to judge the consumtion of a percentage indicator ;)

what I can say from HD2 (also not a native android phone) is that cell standby is also first in the list. so it seems ok to me.

btw: I dont have that "50% freeze issue" you are talking about. have you done a clean install and rebooted 2 or 3 times? I only had a reboot issue with an "unclean" install ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] zalaros:
When i updated from 167 to 169 i still had huge battery drain issues. So i clean installed 169 and everything is fine now ;) With titanium backup i have everything back as i had them in 167 :D Great job devs ;):):):)
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
I mean the 3G fix (and the upates from the updatefolder of course).

The freeze for me is that the phone won't come out of sleepmode (screen stays black and I have to remove the battery to reboot).

some extra info: at first I installed the r167 (clean install) and overwrote all files later with the new r169.
[HD Mini Android Development] disciplinedhtc:
Same happened to me 2 times today, 2 times yesterday. I made a clean install of r169. Phone went standby from home screen (no sw running in foreground), but it just doesn't wake up with on/off button, you have to remove battery.

Bad news is that people can give you calls normally (phone isn't unavailable for caller) but you have no sound/vibration/screen-on.. :(
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
same here, tested myself with other phone.
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Feel free to open an issue here.
[HD Mini Android Development] disciplinedhtc:
Hello Codiak :) since it's not easy to reproduce the problem or give more meaningful details about it, can you or other users suggest a sw for system logging? Opening an issue would then make more sense, I fear that with such a generic problem description the case would just stay there unfollowed. What do you think?
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
I fully agree. I am not sure if it helps, but you can try to get a logcat when the issue is present and you try to turn on the display... assuming usb still working.
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
Attached Phone to PC via USB and started "adb logcat". We'll see what happens... I also have many freezes with new release.

But as usual if I test something: Phone now does not freeze :D.
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
I do not know if this helps, but phone was frozen today morning. I attached the log. LED lights on phone were on but no mpre other reaction. Had to take out the battery.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
i get between 5-7 mA
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
hm.. strange..
[HD Mini Android Development] ripstar:
my problems

I just wanted to report my problems! I know that there are known problems.

But I thought it would be good to know it.

I often have to enter on the day the pin. In addition, the load often makes problems.

It strikes me as so often before, he would not load. Every morning my phone battery is empty.

Otherwise I never noticed anything yet.

To me it seems as if even the R167 version ran better than the R169

Thx devs for the work! You all does a great job!
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
I'm almost sure not wifi is using so much without to do any receiving/sending ,so you better check what is draining battery in standby like apps/services
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
The thing is, I have nothing installed beside battery monitor widget...

I also disabled data sync. Hm...
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
I have 6-9 mA with wifi on.

maybe its the battery monitor app that consumes a lot?

how often does it writes to the logfile?
[HD Mini Android Development] thefuse6509:
idle i get 11~16 mA ,but sometime get 38mA (3G mode ,no wifi)

idle i get 10~11 mA (flight mode)

many programs have been closed, including scraping the background connection data & GPS

I can't less than 10 mA,i don't know why

my SD card is Kingston 2G without HC

I use "SD tool" app test it write 4.5mb/s ,read 6 mb/s

it's made in japan

Thank you developers

sorry poor english

this is my battery log
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Looks like you loose about 25% of battery in 24 hours. Dude, thats not bad!
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
10 mA are absolutely ok, your log looks great!
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
Well, for issue of battery , I want to show some proof

For 2,5 hours, the phone is really warm and battery reduce from 75% to 20%

My Test

- wifi on

- No use, phone just sleep
[HD Mini Android Development] HTC HD-MINI:
I don't know if Is a know issue but the Videocamera don't work (only photo).
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
did you do a clean install on a formatted SDcard?
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
What are those apps in the notificationbar?

What other programms do you have running?
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
My phone specification

- fresh install,format sd

- app in task bar is android manager and task killer to make sure no other apps is running,free memory is 150 MB

I will test without sim card and wifi to confirm again tomorrow.
[HD Mini Android Development] ¨K¨:
@ maxxoros

I had a similar issue with the r167, when I overwrote the files with the new r169 the problem was solved.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
I suggest you to try with a clean install and to don't install ANY programs after,then let me know if there is any difference..or maybe you recharged the battery 10000000000 of times,which shortened battery life

Also..no offense but i did notice that guys having issues with this release are new members..and maybe you are doing this wrong without even to know:)

p.s. i'm not surprised you get bad battert life if you are using programs like task killers and they actually ON,some programs prevents phone to sleep which means bad battery life

I use the same phone as yours,same Android version,maybe not the same sd-card:)..and my phone discharged 15% in 10 hours,with moderate to small use,no internet,just some sms and some calls.
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
I can only agree with tzacapaca. Task Killers are BAD! Avoid them.

Android has a good memory management. Let it do his work :)
[HD Mini Android Development] goose@dvnet.cz:
Hi Guys,

my best "current score" is 81mA :(

I made new clean installation of GoogleCode r169 (I always format my SD before), I installed Current Widget Only.

But Without Wifi and GSM (flight mode), the consumption is stil 100mA and more in sleep.

Here is Current log from my phone, if is anybody interested.

The log was made in 10 minutes, but the time in log is "confusing", because there is still problem with time forwarding and the time runs very fast (without AC or USB cable).

Thank You In advance for any advice!
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
Buy REWSKILS and generate one gold card and install this rom -> RUU_Photon_HTC_Europe_1.36.401.1_Radio_Signed_32.2803.05.06_0.63.05.36_Ship.exe you will get no echo in call, no freze during call, ...etc, and yes you could not install radio and spl with sspl dft hd mini (Do not try in vain)
[HD Mini Android Development] goose@dvnet.cz:
If I Good Understand You, I have to Buy new SD card (OK) and I have to unlock and flash my ROM with version You posted?
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
no, I'm just saying that I do not have a problem with the android like (echo, freze on call...) , using spl, radio and rom... maybe you will be first who will confirm "good thing" with android when use radio, spl and rom like I use!

EDIT: yes, it is true and first member who confirmed is jomaga -> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17147976&postcount=517
[HD Mini Android Development] MobileMini:
Hi, may I ask which radio and rom you are using?
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
As I say 2 posts before, I use: RUU_Photon_HTC_Europe_1.36.401.1_Radio_Signed_32.2803.05.06_0.63.05.36_Ship.exe full installed using gold sd card method generated trought "revskils" or "psas" registered version!
[HD Mini Android Development] Adje Patatje:
Clean install version 169 on Kingston 4Gb Class 4 (great card!)

Results:

- Pretty fast drain of battery, auto sync. switched off. Empty in about 7 hrs without AC.

- While working in settings 3 times spontanious reset to WM

- Slow reaction screen
[HD Mini Android Development] Ahmad.elhajjar:
Hello everybody.

really it is a great effort making this version of android.

I have a problem with this version.

I have already run the last fix3g.

internet is not working with me when I check the mobile network it close automatically after writing this message (the process com.android. phone has stopped unexpectelly. please try again.)

I am thinking about reinstalling this release from 0, but if I format the sd card I will loose the programs that I downloaded befor and I dont want to loose my data. what can I do?
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
Do a backup with titanium backup
[HD Mini Android Development] Ahmad.elhajjar:
Could you please tell me how I can do this backup?

It is a software or what?
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Yes, its an app and you can get it from the market.
[HD Mini Android Development] goose@dvnet.cz:
Munjeniiiiiiiiiiii!!!!

Your Idea is perfect! I upgraded my ROM from 1.07 to 1.36 and now, I have no time forwarding and battery consumtion in sleep mode is from 2 (Yes, you read good, two miliampers) to 8mA. Before, my best current score was 80mA and now 2mA :)

Thank You for Your help and for Your good work, and please, don't be disappointed! I hope that You now that We are very greatfull for Your Work!!! :rolleyes:

And PLEASE, just ignore provocateurs and do Your great job, thank You once again!

P.S. Users: don't forget to use PIM backup before ROM updating. Pimbackup saves all Your contacts, messages and any other informations from Your phone. After ROM update You can easy import Your data back to WinMo. Have a nice weekend with low battery consumption :D
[HD Mini Android Development] warson:
I did a clean install with r169, also had battery drain issue. I found that when the HD Mini was running Android, the phone was generating a lot of heat. At the beginning I thought it's from the battery BUT I was wrong. After I opened the back cover, found that the heat is from THE SD CARD AREA. I wonder it's related to the type of the card.

For those who are having battery problems, please check if the phone is very hot around the SD card area.
[HD Mini Android Development] rastahigh:
You have generate a gold card whit revskill registered version ???

Can i update my ROM only with the RUU_Photon_HTC_Europe_1.36.401.1_Radio_Signed _32.2803.05.06_0.63.05.36_Ship.exe ??

Do you have echo in call after this update ??
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
I also have many freezes as reported last time with r169. Now I downloaded the latest official HTC ROM for my Phone and istalled it, version:

_HTC HD Mini_RUU_Photon_HTC_GER_1.36.407.1_Radio_Signed_32.2803.05.06_0.63.05.36_Ship.exe

I'll report if freezes seem to decrease, I hope so :).
[HD Mini Android Development] cbolumar:
Do the G-sensor ajust in WM before start Android. I did that 2 days ago and the freezes stoped .
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
OK, when phone freezes next time I'll do that also. Fingers crossed!
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
Damn, thought with 3G something is wrong, installed Fix3G and now I always get:

"Sorry! The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again". How can I get rid of the "fix"? :confused:
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
Well i got the same problem and have reported b4.it s hot even sleepping
[HD Mini Android Development] maxxoros:
Well, I get a free day to test Mini to finalize the battery issue.

First, I want to said that I have use HD2 for a long time and test Android for it since it boot from SD (like current Mini) until It could boot from NAND now, so I believe I am experience enough for these kind of porting test, that mean I am not a new user. (I even use o2 himalaya and flame before change to use Hd2, see my reg date, sory for low posts but I like to read more than posting something)

Okie that s enough about myself so do not give me comment like I am a noob and know nothing about port. Thanks

I decide to use airplane mode and let phone idle today many times to test, so I find out battery still drain like hell, about 3 hours and running out of 100% battery. (My battery is 2 day working in Window mobile)

From stat I found, it seem phone idle use 40% percentage of battery and I think it s reason for battery drain

A comparsion with my HD2 in battery usage, you can see battery usage for phone idle

When I turn on phone, It consumes 40% battery

so most energy is for these kind of action, while in other android phone, idle and cell standby use only about 15% total
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Like i said before.. comparing percent values is not a good way. Better use some app like battery monitor widget to monitor the exact values over a period of time.

On the picture you posted, the Mini was running for over a day but the HD2 only a few hours.

Posting a picture were both phones are up for the same time would be more informative.
[HD Mini Android Development] pietje63:
Agree, but there are 2 buts:

- his mini is not running over a day, but 1 hour 30 minutes

- I question whether the apps can correctly measure the battery use.

As regards the second: the apps rely on the information received from the system. While using other system info apps I have abnormal fluctuations in the battery level (battery level going up while unplugged). I think this may be related to the battery code written by the devs.

I switched a few days ago from the Munjeni release to the Google release and get the impression that the Munjeni release used much less battery. The Google release appears a little faster/more stable.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
I'm not going to tell you that you are noob:)

but as an experienced user you should know some things like:

1.phone idle % makes no sense on real power usage(this is explained here on XDA,but i didn't save the link)so you have to trust my word:)

2.settings from WM affects directly Android.ex: if you have auto brightness on WM you will get big power usage on Android,etc.

And now let me ask you something:

How would explain that i get 1% battery drain per around 8 hours(while i'm sleeping) and not in airplane mode,bus mode,etc:D and that with using the same phone as you use?yes we use different sd-card too but that won't make so much difference,i don't believe an sd-card will use a whole battery in 3 hours...

In short,i'm sure you are doing something wrong,or use some apps which are power hungry.
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
Sorry, my fault.

I get only 7 to 10 mA in sleep mode what makes about 1% per hour. Dont know what you guys are doing different :/
[HD Mini Android Development] michjosi:
This really seemes to work, did a clean r169 install also after the WM ROM update. No more freezes.

Great! But how is the WM ROM in relation to Android?
[HD Mini Android Development] warson:
please try turning OFF bluetooth in WinMo before running Haret.exe

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1248250
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
what about to don't post your questions everywhere?
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
Thanks for the advice, I never use the BT is always switched off at WM and Android (energy efficient and do not generally need BT for anything ...)
[HD Mini Android Development] zet6:
Hello everyone.

I'm not able to see my ad hoc network with the new release. Is there any solution? I were using it with some previous releases and it was ok. Thank you.
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
Here is fix, extract to sd card, run haret, reboot android, start android again, see if it working
[HD Mini Android Development] liorderei:
hi devs, i have a question about transferring files..

i uploaded a music file to the sd card,and even created a folder, but it doesn't show i have it on the phone..

not in astro and now in the player..i unmounted the sd card through settings it didn't help, then i tried restarting the device bit no luck with that either...

do you have any suggestions?

thank you so much for everything :)
[HD Mini Android Development] zet6:
Hi munjeni. Thank you for the help, but it still doesn't work. I followed your instruction but no result. It just says "Scanning..." and nothing happens. Other devices see the network.
[HD Mini Android Development] iPlasm:
Hi again, :) sorry I was too late.

This version boots much faster than previous one. previous one first boot were taken about ~15 Minutes... and this new just about ~1 Minute first boot. Great! much faster :D

I see this was problem about slow:

Greats job Robin, and devs. Thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] munjeni:
Is project dead?
[HD Mini Android Development] 15MA1L:
:D

It is not. But you have more energy than all of us. I admire you, the google code page shows signs of developers, freshly ... I think they have a lot to do
[HD Mini Android Development] codiak:
How do you come to that conclusion?
[HD Mini Android Development] redeye998:
I used every updated version out there but i have only a single problem...

I can't connect to internet through wi-fi. I mean i get no icon and when it seems to be enabled, i cant find my network... What is the problem?
[HD Mini Android Development] Ahmad.elhajjar:
Hello guys, how r you?

what is this update? is it an update for the rom in window or in android?

and could you plz tell us how weh could make this update to our ROM?
[HD Mini Android Development] Ahmad.elhajjar:
Hi Guys,

I am using the last release with the last update, and I have this problem:

When I make a call, and during the call, I tried to decrease the volume and it doesnt work. Did anybody mention this problem???

thanks for all
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/detail?id=14
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
icon will be visible only when you are connected to a network,problem i guess is with your router.

check:

if your router has DHCP enabled

try to connect to some public hotspot or with friends router(if it will work then is something wrong with your router or it's settings)

go in your router settings and check if your phone was added in "my network" or something like that.
[HD Mini Android Development] goose@dvnet.cz:
Hi,

it is official ROM update from HTC Web Pages. Munjeni reccomended to make gold SD card with registered revskills app, but I don't know this app, so I made ROM update "only" with downloaded EXE file from HTC WebPage. When You Download new Rom, make a connection with ActiveSync and Run downloaded EXE file. Then follow instructions on monitor, and as I said, don't forget to backup Your data, because new ROM ovevrite everything in Your Phone (except SD of course).