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[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
1. If have locked bootloader do I still need ram fix after ota?

No. The unlocked bootloader for Bell phones has a bug, the locked one doesn't have the same bug.

2. Can I use IHOP to unlock bootloader now that I have installed the ota?

Yes.

3. Can I use Webtop via HDMI hack with gingerbread?

Yes, from what I read, haven't bothered with it lately.

Edit: the Bell webtop hack doesn't work with this GB. There is an AT&T version, looking into comparing it with the stock files to see what is different.

4. Can I use 1% battery mod?

Have never bothered with that.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] belkbuzze:
It might already have been posted, but for those who suffer from a battery/radio drain, just DELETE ALL exchange account associated to motoblur and reinstall them afterward. It should stop the bleeding.
[Atrix 4G General] thomorph:
Hello,

Is it easy to downgrade from GB to froyo?
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Just flash my 2.2.2 CWM zip.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Originally Posted by NFHimself I am saying that I couldn't get into the stock recovery menu to do a factory reset, no matter where I pressed on the screen, what button combos I tried etc.

Cheers!
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Hi,

I have figured this one out,, the IHOP_BELL.sbf when applied to the stock recovery causes it. There are several codegroup files in there, it's probably a side effect or the OTA unlocked bootloader is somehow different than the one in the sbf.

When I flashed my stock 2.3.4 and followed it up with my deodexed zip that includes the OTA unlocked bootloader I could get into the stock recovery just fine.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] AnguishedEnd:
I'm very new to Android and I just recently rooted my brother's Nexus S today. It was a VERY simple process to root, unlock bootloader, flash ClockWorkMod and throw on CM7 using ROM Manager.

Now I'm going to attempt the process on my Atrix in prep for CM7!

I just have one question:

Following http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader, if your on Gingerbread you can simply get into fastboot mode and do 'fastboot oem unlock' just like I've done on the Nexus S. Is this correct for us Bell users? We don't need to use RSDLite?
[Atrix 4G General] daywalker04:
Anyone have a system dump of the new Bell GB update ?
[Atrix 4G General] cua0:
just tried this on mine for no reason other than to see what it did. fresh OTA update + rooted.

C:\root>fastboot oem unlock
... INFOOEM unlock is not implemented
OKAY [ 0.001s]
finished. total time: 0.002s

C:\root>

so i'm guessing my device doesn't have the unlocked bootloader yet.

hope that helps.
[Atrix 4G General] AnguishedEnd:
Thanks for this! I guess no way aroud using RSDLite... :(
[Atrix 4G General] mikejwc:
After reading the whole thread, I'm getting mixed ideas as to whether I need to unroot for this update to work. All I've done to the phone is root with gingerbreak 1.1, freeze some apps with titaniumbackup, and put launcher pro on. I already unfroze the apps, but do I need to unroot for the OTA update to work? seems that some people are having troubles with this, others not..
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Do you need to unroot? No

Is it a good idea to unroot before updating? Absolutely Yes!

You are gonna lose root anyway after updating, and many problems I've seen with the upgrade are from people who forgot to unroot.

Also it's extremely simple to unroot with Gingerroot, so might as well just to make things go smoother...
[Atrix 4G General] cua0:
I didn't unroot, but I made sure that all of my "system" apps were still in working order for this update. I will delete them permanently now since this is likely the last major update for the atrix. (still have them backed up though.)
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Why not just freeze them? ICS is still a possibility. Much easier than trying to get them back on the phone later.

The average Android phone sees 2 major updates in its lifespan. You never know... :)
[Atrix 4G General] sservati:
I couldn't find 1% battery MOD for gingerbread roms....I swear I did searched!
[Atrix 4G General] thomorph:
"Just flash my 2.2.2 CWM zip."

Ok thanks, I will try GB this week end.

Waht is the best way to root and install a custom recovery to save the phone without unlock the bootloader?
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
If you are not unlocking the boot loader, not a lot will make sense in the threads here. It can be done but only if you are savy with code and can compile a bootstrap cwm recovery that supports edify scripting. And then you can only change the system partition since the others are signed. Unless perhaps you flash 100% stock.

Lost yet? :)

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] thomorph:
But for the moment can I use gingerbrak, make a save of my phone in 2.2.2 stock?and after having done the GB update it's possible I unlock the bootloader
[Atrix 4G General] thomorph:
Finally I have make a titanium backup after root with ginger break and I go to gingerbread after unroot, update is ok, I will test this os in the next days.

But if I unlock the bootloader I lost my warrently?

Edit: 1week after update, my phone have lost a little bite of battery: 3days instad of 4
[Atrix 4G General] sservati:
Why there is no thread containing all together:

1. Addresses to Bell GobStoppers,

2. All Available Custom Roms for Bell,

3. 1% Battery MOD for Bell GB and Froyo,

4. WebTop Mods (Full Linux, Over HDMI,...) for GB and Foryo

...

Too many stuff for AT&T but no Bell :(
[Atrix 4G General] Wond3r:
Most of the current threads for those things work with Bell too. Just have to read it to make sure

if it says something like "ATT ONLY" then dont use that and keep reading for the "bell or international users" part

but usually if it doesnt say ATT ONLY then you are safe
[Atrix 4G General] sservati:
Can you give me links to 1% Battery MOD for Bell GB and Webtop via HDMI MOD for Bell GB?
[Atrix 4G General] guitar_east:
Don't forget about the Checkin service that forces your phone to auto check for an update. This doesn't mean the update will auto show, it does the same job as rebooting your phone.

From the dialer, dial *#*#2432546#*#* and it should say Checkin Succeeded
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
I'm on WiFi and at 87% and it's been running for 90 minutes or so.

As I was saying before, I unrooted before clicking download.

I don't have root explorer, but I think I can access root files using File Expert.

When I hit 100%, I will:

- cancel

- re-root using Gingerbreak

- try to use drock12's procedure, as posted by mobileweasel earlier in this thread, to capture the OTA files

- zip them and provide them to anyone who wants to get them faster than Bell can send out***

- unroot again

- install the update

*** Is this legal? If so, and if someone can convince me that this is legal, I will upload it somewhere.

Also, does anyone know if the unroot is necessary?
[Atrix 4G General] quietx1guy:
I'm in Toronto and have a Bell Atrix on Rogers. I've done the checkin and it succeeded. Still no update.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Give it an extra day it 2. They might be doing this update like Samsung where Motorola doesn't want everyone hitting the servers all at once... ;)
[Atrix 4G General] belkbuzze:
Is anyone able to confirm the bootloader status? Is it locked? If I update, will I still be able to install CM7 ?
[Atrix 4G General] Gabbosgreats:
Please tell me we can change the color of the notification bar from blue to something else.
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
Ok. I have 100% downloaded. I tried to make a copy of the OTA files, but they were not present in the /cache directory. I could see the previous update files (v37.23 I think), but not the most recent.

It's installing now!

Assuming all goes well, how would I check to see if the bootloader is unlocked?

EDIT:

Update is done!! Wow. Gingerbread is looking very nice, at least graphically, in the first few seconds I've used it. Here's what happens:

- Press "Install Now", phone says "Shutting down"

- You get an update screen showing a box with an android coming out of it

- The progress bar quickly goes to about 30% and then slowly makes its way up to about 80%, then a blink and it's done and rebooting

- My phone rebooted twice. I was fearing a boot loop first, but the second time it went into the OS

- Things immediately looked different and I got a message that said "The Software Update was successful! Your phone has been upgraded to 45.2.17.en.CA version."

So far, the notification bar looks very cool, but Bell has hijacked the left side with the word "Bell". I hope this can be removed. Notification bar real estate is worth too much for advertisement.
[Atrix 4G General] papakilo10:
Thanks for the update Meor. Now to wait.... I'm in Alberta.
[Atrix 4G General] noxlord:
Please do so. I wonder if I can flash it to my ATT Atrix and transform it into a Bell-like Atrix :D

I am also interested in the radio, it seems to be different than the att one. Can someone make some tests ?
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
I can perform some tests, if anyone can just give me a walk-through.

I know, I know. I could google and and spend time figuring it out. But I'm pretty busy and just don't have time. But if someone else can help me do some legwork, I'll do my part by running a few tests.

That said, I'm trying to research a method for determining if the bootloader is unlocked. I want to make sure I know what I'm doing before I mess with anything though.
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hex edit it, look for unlock or warranty.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] callous1:
I'm getting an error when upgrading. I get the following:

Verifying current system...

assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/bin/charge_only_mode". "7c4556914336ffc39ec577c32a95a9e552482c6b".

"ca56bd89949eaef76e27306a2e95e2de5ae36064")

e:error in/cache/blur_\version.0.37.23.mb860.bellmobility.en.ca.zip

(status 7)

Not rooted on 0.37.23., phone fully charged and plugged into wall outlet.

Any ideas?
[Atrix 4G General] y2whisper:
have you used tenfars bootstrap recovery in the past? if so might need to root install and put the device in charge mode
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
Ahh... Hex edit.... what? Are you referring to a file?
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
Updated, Rooted Successfully

OK. AS the title suggests, I've got root on my phone with 2.3.4. Gingerbreak wouldn't work, so I used the following:

http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/mo...-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html

The only issue encountered: SuperUser app was already installed. Otherwise, very smooth rooting process.
[Atrix 4G General] ertDeath:
I'm.still on version 4.5.9 and haven't seen any avail updates.
[Atrix 4G General] psolovyov:
No update yet ---- Vancouver BC.

:(

PS: Support forum thread on Motorolla hasnt been updated with a Bell update...hmmm...
[Atrix 4G General] mobileweasel:
I just checked. Nothing for me, but I am in the friggin' boonies near Pembroke.
[Atrix 4G General] xangma:
Ok. Any chance that the people that are rooted can install cwm and post the boot.img and system.img here? Or the update zip at all? I heard Paul at MoDaCo used to have his phone plugged into adb to grab the update link.

Anyone mind searching their adb log? :-p if they've literally just updated I mean ...
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
If you have the zip, open it and hex edit ap20bl.img

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] ratatouille:
If I install gobstoper 2.2.2, will I be able to install the upsets or should I wait. I am on gobstoper 2.3.4 with AT&T radio and edgan's overclock kernel. The phone has been unplugged for 2d and 3h, kind of amazing!
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
NFHimself - I wasn't able to obtain the OTA files. It seemed to me like the files were not present in /cache.

Sorry for the slight hostility yesterday! I swear it wasn't St. John's to Mount Pearl hostility. I guess I was just having a hostile day. But today is great with my updated phone. I'm noticing many subtle improvements that, to me, add up to be a big deal.
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hi,

Yes, if you use the 2.2.2 gostopper you will have a stock Bell and can apply the update. The radio seems to be slightly higher in version than ATT's .30P so it should be fine as is.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hi,

Once the OTA is applied the file gets deleted, hence the sticky thread about how to capture the file. You need to copy the file out of /cache before applying it, it's too late now so don't worry about it. In theory not so hard, but you need a way to do that, being rooted to access /cache, having adb setup or root explorer installed on the phone to be able to enter in a cp command, etc.

Never noticed any hostility, so no worries there. :)

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] sservati:
I'm outside of Canada right now but I got the OTA notification and downloaded it. I couldn't find any file in /cache with name of 45.2.17 but there was a zip file named Blur....37.23... and I guessed it is the previous update but the file date and time was the same as the date and time I downloaded the 45.2.17.

I don't think the bootloader is unlocked by it self but it might be unlockable through fastboot...is there any safe way to find out?
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hi,

That is how it works, the filename is always matching the firmware to be patched, not what it will be when it's applied. So copy that to your sdcard or internal memory. Once you have the zip on the computer, use a hex editor and search for text like warranty or unlock, it should have a spiel in there saying you may be screwed for life if you unlock it, etc. That generally indicates that it is an unlockable bootloader. :)

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] y2whisper:
would install gobbstopper and so that i could check for you all but at work the connection sucks (11 hours left for download)
[Atrix 4G General] akurit:
no update for me and im on stock froyo
[Atrix 4G General] edmarmartins:
Please copy and upload.

Could you please copy this OTA file and share it with us (upload it)?

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] kokobsb:
no luck for me either ,live in montreal.i dont understand why motorola has to do it partially ,i guess they can just upload the update on their website so people can download....
[Atrix 4G General] guitar_east:
They probably can't release it all it once because they're servers would be affected. It's pointless for them to host it on their website if everyone will get it in a week or so. I mean, they'll have to use their designers to design a splash for the page, use their web guys to build and host the site, and whoever else. For the few of us that really can't wait, and there really is a few of us compared to the masses who don't care, they most likely know someone will just pull it and host it themselves. Staggered rollouts make perfect sense. Sucks, but I understand why. Especially for a company that just got bought out.
[Atrix 4G General] itzac:
Well said, guitar_east. The roll out also doesn't appear to be regional at all. It's probably based on some hash of identifiers unique to each phone. In the vein of "Only phone numbers ending in 99 get the roll out. Now 98. Etc..." I wonder if they're just proceeding on some schedule, or if they're waiting for some target to be reached before expanding the roll out each time.
[Atrix 4G General] genius312:
I just called Bell and they said they are not aware of a new update yet !

They then transfered me to Motorola so that I get they answer I want and the guy said that they release a test version of the update!

So they pushed that update to only a couple of users so that it can be tested.

When the update will be 100% tested and fonctionnal, then everyone will get the update by the notification bar !

They will not put the zip file onto their website unless it is tested and no longer a test version !

I guess we will have to wait a few days !
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
And if there are problems? Will those users get another update to fix it? I hope they agreed to be beta testers, all sounds rather dodgy to me.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] sservati:
No agreement of beta tester...

I think my copied file is corrupted since it is smaller than what it should be and I couldn't open my copied file with winrar.
[Atrix 4G General] genius312:
I agree with the fact that they should have signed for "tester agreement" but that s what the guy from Moto said !

The Gingerbread update is only a test version so that they cannot send to everyone right now !

They probably tested it for a couple of month, and the update is ready to be shipped, but they just don't want to do a mass update in case some problems occur !

The support guy used the term "test version" but it might not really be a test version, they just send it to a couple of users, wait for 3-4 days and then push to every one !

To bad for me I cannot receive updates from BELL, my atrix as a problem with that !

Bell AND Motorola said that I should reset to factory default which I don't really want to do !

I never received the update in june, I had to install it manually by downloading the zip file from their website :(
[Atrix 4G General] ratatouille:
I installed gobstopper 2.2.2, but the update is not available.... Sad....
[Atrix 4G General] kokobsb:
thnx for answering guitar east i see so its cheaper to do ota lol,and plus they can track down users easily to see if there is a problem ,i am happy that its on its way since i didnt want to play with my bootloader and flash any roms ,since there is not a leaked bell sbf didnt want any australian or french sbf that work on bell ,thanx again
[Atrix 4G General] guitar_east:
I doubt it's a test version. The Moto rep was probably just saying whatever to get you off the phone. It's probably just a limited rollout...although a number of you on here have gotten it already. They would not dump out a "test version" to regular customers. It would have to go through various levels of clearance before someone pushed the master "PUSH TO DEVICES" button.
[Atrix 4G General] gtaguy:
Thats probably it. I remember just after i got this phone i registered for beta testing at motorola's website. Anybody else who got the update register for beta testing ?
[Atrix 4G General] ratatouille:
After I installed Gobstopper 2.2.2 I tried to unlock my bootloader again.... Puddin installs just fine, but in fastboot mode, the fastboot oem unlock gives me FAILED, unknown error.... Any idea?
[Atrix 4G General] genius312:
You re right !

When I created my motoblur account I remember a check box saying something like: Do you want to be a beta tester ?

Those who got the update probably checked that box !

If you want any further info call the number Bell gave me: 1800-461-4575
[Atrix 4G General] sservati:
I'm sure I haven't signed up for any beta testing!
[Atrix 4G General] Meor:
Ok. I was trying to figure out if the bootloader is unlocked. From what I gather it can be unlocked, but I'm not entirely sure of what I'm doing here. Here's what I done with my Bell Atrix running 2.3.4:

- Downloaded fastboot.zip and extracted to c:\fastboot

- Shutdown phone

- Held power+volume down until I saw a startup screen which said "Fastboot"

- Plugged into USB on my Win XP machine

- Pushed volume up and observed the message "Starting fastboot protocol support"

- In command prompt, went to fastboot directory and typed the following:

fastboot devices

- The fastboot program returned something like the following:

WC234A2D3G4 fastboot

(I made up the string above because I was thinking it might be a number I shouldn't send out.)

Any interpretation of this?

UPDATE:

I found an article telling me how to unlock the phone so I figured I'd give it a try. I typed the following:

fastboot oem unlock

and I got the message "OEM Unlock is not implemented".

Not a good sign... I guess... (?)
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hi,

Once you are unlocked the ReservedOdm fuse bit is blown and you no longer have to do a oem unlock, it also would fail if it's already done. However the bootloader still needs to know about unlocking, there has to be code in there that reads the fuse and goes left instead of right, otherwise the fuse means nothing.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] AnguishedEnd:
I went to a Bell store last week and the Motorola/Bell rep told me that the update would be out very very very soon. After more questions he said that just keep on trying to update everyday thats how soon lol...so I doubt this is a test or beta whatever you want to call it.
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hi,

If that is what came up then it's the same ap20bl.img that was in the Bell GB leak most likely and that is locked. At least it doesn't brick the phone.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] TheMan0790:
Can anyone tell me if I should use this ROM over the Orange France GB ROM? I asked before but got no response. I am on Bell btw. Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] guitar_east:
Well, we're still trying to get one uploaded and test it out to see if the bootloader is unlocked. If your phone is working fine and you're happy with it no need to switch to the Bell version.
[Atrix 4G General] TheMan0790:
Makes sense. Thanks for your answer.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
We've had this update for 6-8 weeks now have we not?

Wasn't it leaked through cloud servers?

I'm pretty sure I'm the one who uploaded it
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
That's what we are trying to figure out, if anyone can get it uploaded, what if anything has changed. They would at least have fixed the date colour bug for release.

The radio is 33P, not .30s.qn, the fingerprint is not 45.2A-51 but 45.2-17 apparently, and the file size is not 300MB but 145MB.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] guitar_east:
Since no one has posted the update yet, I have a question. I'm still new to the Atrix (coming from a Desire Z) so now sure how pushed Bell update's work.

I'm not rooted. Can I wait until the update is downloaded, not install it, root it and copy it over to SD, unroot and apply? Or if I'm rooted will it still push?
[Atrix 4G General] BJNK:
If you are rooted and otherwise stock, it will still push.
[Atrix 4G General] guitar_east:
Thanks. When it pushes to my phone, if its not posted already, I'll post it.
[Atrix 4G General] lexx210:
Thanks man! I'd love to get a CWM update zip for the official Bell GB.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
I thought that once the bootloader is unlocked, it stays unlocked. Unless the OTA locks it back up again?

For the record, the update is still not available for me. I'm sure it will be ready within the week...
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
By unlocking you blow a fuse, it is up to the bootloader to look at it and say OK I won't complain about signatures now. You could have a bootloader that just didn't check signatures, without a fuse involved at all, which is just a 1 in a bitfield, nothing magical. You can have a bootloader that is always going to check signatures, which is what was in the Bell GB leak. It's just a 1 in a section of a word of data that can't be made a zero afterword, it's not hardwired to lock or unlock anything. So in a sense the lock is put back on by flashing the ap20bl.img file, but really, for this bootloader, there is no lock to be unlocked, it has no meaning.

There is also no spoon, but people get fed anyway. :)

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] KingKuba13:
The updated popped up when I was playing Adrenaline 6, pressed cancel by accident. I'll try downloading it later.

:o
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
So with this OTA, should I unlock "before" or "after" the OTA? (Or does it even matter?)

The only thing that I care about is GB, (preferably stock for the battery life) and CM7 (when it's ready) which is the only reason why I would ever want to unlock this phone...
[Atrix 4G General] IUH1991:
Nothing for me yet and i'm in Ottawa. Maybe they're releasing this problem in the east coast first and moving their way west.
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Why are you unlocking anyway? If you are stock 2.2.2, just apply the OTA. If you are not stock, you can grab my 2.2.2 partitions and dd them in, without being unlocked.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
I say give up checking for it, 2 days+ and nothing means it's not a general roll-out.

Cheers!