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[General Topics] Youngunn2008:
Wait, don't buy HTC??? They make incredible phones, for those who prefer something that doesn't feel like a piece of crap thin plastic.* Samsung* cough*

this guy is just having bad luck. But HTC is one of the very very best companies I've ever dealt with for warranty and repairs. Incredible customer service.

Please don't make such blanketing remarks, it hurts :-)
[General Topics] cobraboy85:
HTC is better than apple. at everything. oh and better than samsung. also at everything.

i agree 100% with your statement.

also, to the OP, android has been around for how long now?? 2 years?? or something like that... while apple has been making phones and mp3 players... computers... everything for years. most of the problems you hear about android are actually problems with the 3rd party cell phone carriers or devices outside of google that the OS is being installed on.

the samsung moment was a perfect example of this..... i had so many headaches with that phone. and it was the phone. not the software. i had 2.2 installed on it, running the way it should have come from the factory, and it still had problems that were hardware based... i will never buy another samsung phone. the problem is they are ****ing push overs when it comes to dealing with sprint.

you all need to understand how manufacturing processes work in the real world, and im sure some of you do.... sprint tells samsung... "we need this phone by this date. no questions asked." samsung being ******* reply "ok. will do."

crunch time comes, delivery date is approaching, and the dev's at samsung havent had enough time to iron out all the bugs/potential bugs and instead of forcing sprint to wait a little longer, they give them a 99% completed project...

hence the reason why the people in the hacking community usually are the ones ironing out the problems.. because they have ALLLL the time in the world to do it.

which is why if you buy an android phone.... you MUST root. it is not an option.

HTC, going back to the beginning of my post, is a little more "middle finger" when it comes to letting companies push them around, because they are a little more like apple in the phone business... they know their stuff is always gonna be the ****, so they also know companies will listen to THEM, instead of the other way around.

rant/
[General Topics] davidstech11:
I wouldn't condemn an OS over this incident. Or the other ones.
[General Topics] davidstech11:
I agree about HTC making good quality devices. And for the most part they have great customer service.
[General Topics] davidstech11:
Some how my device turned on. I don't know what could have caused it to not turn on for hours. I was on my way to the Verizon store when I tried turning it on and it worked. Hopefully that don't happen again.
[General Topics] bassie1995:
I'm just going to say a couple of things: MyBackup. Look it up in the Market.

Also, my phone has remained quite stable over the last year of screwing around with it...

I do agree that Android can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but it is the price you pay for the open setup of the platform.

I would get an iPhone or WP7 device, if Android wasn't so customizable and open. I can always find new things to do, and if it screws up, I can fix it myself, behind my desk, in an hour or 2-3.

:)
[General Topics] sleeperzzz:
Well gonna comment as well.

I agree that Android does have force closes but i have never done a factory reset on my phone. I've never managed to get it that stuck it needed it.

The force closes do happen but usually it's my own fault for installing stuff not meant for my phone.

Ofcourse Android in terms of Apple is more affected by application hangs.

The reason is pretty simple really.

Apple you have 2 devices with all the same specs where a developer has to program on to make an app run

Android has to many devices with all different specs and the same developer has to program taking in account that some phones handle things differently.

Once in a while a dev overlooks something and a force close happens on certain phones.

Apple is Apple & Android is Android both share their good sides and bad sides.
[General Topics] sk8aseth:
That reminds of myspace vs facebook. Myspace gave users the ability to customize every freaking thing. Facebook gave you very little control. Myspace ended up taking forever to load and facebook was nice and clean so that's why people liked it so much. But if you buy a common android phone and keep it stock you will likely have few problems and a lot more customization than iphone.
[General Topics] Youngunn2008:
I almost pretty close to just about, bought an HTC hd7 before my inspire, cuz wp7 looked so slick. Until I went on xda and took a look at the tumble weeds blowing around the wp7 section. That OS, unfortunately, doesn't let you tinker much. I passed.

Android has never given me any problems, whether it was my nexus one or my inspire... I've had them rooted the whole time. I would agree with what was said, any problem I've had was usually hardware or my own fault.
[General Topics] ph00ny:
One thing i learned about android devices is that carriers ruin the device more than they should. I've always thought my captivate was a decent device until i installed my first custom rom. Even with a simple modem change, my data speed doubled in download and upload speed went up by 5x or more

As for Galaxy S2, i bought it unbranded, unlocked just to avoid AT&T ruining it and i think i made the right choice. I've ran stock rom for few months without any issues or random reboots. Most of the force closes are due to the apps and same thing happens on iOS devices (check half of the iPad EA game reviews).
[General Topics] Youngunn2008:
Very well said.
[General Topics] loco00:
sorry if i'm being such a rude, but did you read "how-to" guide properly? Looks like you just made one hell of a mess on your phone.... Big time... :eek:
[General Topics] davidstech11:
How did I make a mess on my device? All of did was download/install a bunch of applications.
[General Topics] davidstech11:
Carriers for sure can make using your device less enjoyable. As for iOS devices. Out the numerous models I have had none have had issues with Force Closes. The only time I did with iOS was when it was jailbroke and I started installing numerous jailbreak applications.
[General Topics] ph00ny:
Usually on iOS devices, it doesn't tell you that there was an error.

It will just close without an error message. Take pulse for an example, I'm going through a bunch of feeds and when i try to return to the feed selection, it goes back to home screen on my ipad. If i click on the pulse app to return and it's a fresh launch. Same goes for the web browser. It closes sometimes without an explanation and my multiwindow sessions are gone.

I've avoided ton of games and such from the appstore purely based on numerous negative reviews regarding app closing randomly etc
[General Topics] chewbz:
I don't want to make this a htc vs Sammy thing but by my gfs inc2 had more fc's and freezes then my Nexus ever had stock. I also recommended that phone over the fasinate as well, so I'm not a brand fanboy by any means.

And I would have to agree with the op as well because her phone needed to be rooted with an aosp rom to be anywhere near as stable as my Nexus. Fragmentation is a real issue with android and to be honest I wouldn't recommend an android phone to someone unless they like to tinker with things.

I love android, but I know my Nexus is not as polished as an ios device, but that's the price to pay for open source.
[General Topics] mrrick:
Tldr;

But, Double edged sword is a great description for android os.

*insert sig here*
[General Topics] davidstech11:
I have seen that but never like I do with my latest Android device. I don't know if its because I am using the latest iOS devices (iPhone 4 and iPad 2 that I rarely see any problem with game/apps). Games have never not worked or keep closing. If it didn't always work I work take it to an Apple store and it would be replaced. Something I wish I could do with my Android devices when I have serious problems.

Unless Verizon mails you the certified new device HTC makes you pay to mail it to them. Then they will fix what needs to be fixed and mail it back to you. While the manufacture has it you have no phone. I just let Verizon mail me the replacement and mail the defective one back.
[General Topics] LloydSev:
Between my wife's and my phone we've done a factory reset one time between us on our two Android devices. I have an Xperia Play and she has a Droid X2. Her factory reset was due to a bug on the Droid X2 which stopped her from being able to use the stock keyboard as it would close the keyboard when hitting the space key, etc... Had we known at the time replacing the keyboard would fix it, then we'd have 0 factory resets.

I think the issues have more to do with the phones and how you use them then anything else. Android devices are more powerful than iPhones when it comes to customization, and since you can install software from any source that causes possibly points of instability. I think the one area that Apple gets most of it's stability is the App Store. Apple controls what can be put on your iPhone, Google does not.
[General Topics] davidstech11:
I know for sure I am going to get a Nexus device. But I want it to have Category 14 HSPA+ at least. If the rumors about the Prime going to Verizon with LTE are true I would for sure make that my primary device.

About your Nexus S. I agree. The Nexus S is already great to me. Add dual-core and LTE and its even sweeter.
[Motorola Photon 4G] SS2006:
Has the CM7 prebeta for the atrix been Tried in the photon?

There very similar devices and I once read a port would be simple

My photon isn't in yet id try it if it were

Thanks
[Motorola Photon 4G] TheShackSpecialist:
If this is possible pm me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] SS2006:
Ill try soon
[Motorola Photon 4G] mxmarcus:
Keep us in the loop

MM

Sent from my Motorola Photon!
[Motorola Photon 4G] twolostminds:
Wow, the Atrix-Dev-Team looks like they are coming along great with the CM7 Atrix PreBeta2

I would love to see this port to the Photon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] twolostminds:
[EXP] CyanogenMOD 7.1 for Atrix (Pre-Beta #3)

Looks like CyanogenMOD for the Atrix is coming along nicely.

[EXP] CyanogenMOD 7.1 for Atrix (Pre-Beta #3) -- ModMyMobile Link

WORKING: 2G/3G/H+ Calls and SMS SIM PINs RIL FastDormancy Support WiFi Audio USB GPS Bluetooth......

Anyone crazy enough to try installing this on their Photon?
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
i imagine it will boot just fine and have most everything taht they ahve working without any issues, with one problem

the radios no 3g or 4g etc etc
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
i currently have tmo (unfortunately). and i'm thinking about switching to page plus. has anyone had problems with page plus on their htc inspire? how was your experience with page plus?
[HTC Inspire 4G] zelendel:
Really another thread? I am gonna try to say this as nicely as I can, this is a development based forums. Questions like this belong in the off topic thread. XDA is in the process of cleaning up the forums and threads like these are gonna be deleted sooner or later. Now I only say this to save you the trouble and maybe help you get the answers to the random questions you seem to have without cluttering up the forums with random questions.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
ok you know what? thats enough harassment from you. STOP HARASSING ME FOR THE LAST GODDAMN TIME !!! DONT YOU EVER COMMENT ON THIS OR ANY OF MY OTHER THREADS!! I JUST REPOTRED YOU!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Enjoy your probable ban trapzz. If you read any of the stickys, they're using an iron fist to crack down on noobs... sorry
[HTC Inspire 4G] Agoattamer:
How can anyone comment on your threads? The mods have closed most of them. :p And reporting zelendel? Oh you are funny trapzz. That's signing your own death warrant.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Tx Redneck:
No, he repotred him!!!1!!1111!!
[HTC Inspire 4G] zelendel:
Ok sense I am no longer a moderator I am just like everyone else. All the proper People know about what is going on and all we can do wait to see what happens and let it go. "All things come to those who wait". I wish the OP the best of luck in learning something knew.:cool:
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
yeah i see ur a troll.. good luck being banned from here.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
why are you worshipping zelendel? kiss his feet too? and why are you talking to me. seriously get off my threads.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Lol I'm a troll? I said you'd be banned since zel was a mod and the last guy I witnessed cuss him out got banned. Chilling the hell out would be good right about now.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
So you come in here and turn the whole Inspire section upside down with tons of q&a stickies and banning developers, and now suddenly you're not even a moderator anymore - wow. You left quite a mess in your wake. The DesireHD section was left untouched and everything over there is just fine. Here in the Inspire section, thanks to you, people aren't even supposed to post questions in the dev section in the developer's own thread - LOL. We can only hope the new mod will convert the q&a stickies to normal threads so they will die a deserving death, and we can go back to using the dev section the way it was before the Days Of Zelendel.

Edit: and this post is not in support of trapzz the noob who doesn't like to search before asking questions. I'm merely reacting to your post.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Wow. Lol

:-D nothing to see here folks...
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Agreed :)

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[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
ok whatever you say troll.. just reminding you that trolling isnt tolerated in any forum. anyway, i suggest that you not comment on any of my threads. i dont understand why you continue to harass me. i guess there are people out there who got lots of time on their hands.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
edit: this thread isnt in support of henrybravo the ass kisser who lacks the manly confidence to attract the opposite sex. i'm merely stating a fact.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
we got another one.. more ass kissing in here?
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
What are you talking about the Q&A ROM thing? If you look at the MIUI one and the Ninja one its clearly working
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
You're amusing. Got any more insults/personal attacks up your sleeve? Don't worry, I won't report you. Let me have it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
Haha 10chars
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
It was working before. Do you disagree?
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
Yes but now the ROM is easier to browse to for files than going through 100000 useless questions
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
OK I'll give you that. I respect your opinion, as you're one of the helpful ones in this forum and I appreciate your contributions. However, IMO in a few months the q&a stickies will be filled up once again with 10,000 useless questions, so I don't know if this is anything but a temporary reprieve. I guess I just liked it the way it was before. Many of the threads in the dev section are ignoring the rule anyway and continuing as is, so maybe I'm overreacting.

Edit: oops I misread your statement about being easier to browse for files. Yes you are definitely right about that.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Wow so now I'M continuing to harass YOU?

Troll logic. :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Don't mind me I'm just a-trolling along in this here thread.

PROBLEM Trapzz??????
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
youre the one who 1st insulted me. so i in turn defended myself. but anyway, you can inslut me all you want.. whatever you say doesnt affect me.. it just makes you look bad.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Ooh I don't know if you're his type... to in - slut him... :-) jk man lighten up there's more important things in the world ya know? :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
All I did was call you a noob who doesn't search. Not that bad. You said that I "lack the manly confidence to attract the opposite sex". That comment's on a whole different level - only an immature person would say something like that. Your young age is showing.

Since I'm now disappointed in the fact that I allowed myself to get sucked into this conversation with you, I'm going to go away now, as this thread will be locked soon anyway. Since you seem to be the type of person that needs to have the last word, I'm sure you'll have yet another witty response to share with us. Prove me wrong or prove me right - either way, you win and I lose.
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
Yeah I respect you to you're a good dev and I use your APN trick ;) but yeah the old way just got out of hands and people made useless 10 threads just so they can post questions in the ROM thread so why not put a Q&A about the ROM so we can get rid of the useless posts.
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Yes that's true, but I would say just lift the 10 post requirement in the dev section. 6 or 1/2 dozen either way; multiple ways to skin that cat. I'm out of puns now.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
what you said was really 'mo..
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
What now?
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
well, the comment is true. you insult peple online instead of doing that in their face.. i call that unmanly cowardice. and the only one here who's immature is you. look at all your comments.. you sound like a 3rd grader. you got a long way to go before reaching manhood.

im the one whos dissappointed in bringing myself to your level in talking to you. and thank god youre going away.. leave and dont come back.. youre the type of person who insults people and dont expect them to insult you back in defense.. thats unintelligent of you to assume that.

and by you saying, "you win and I lose" makes you look even worse becuz youre trying to turn the tables around making it seem like you win and i lose. but that tactic doesnt work. try again..
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
yeah you know exactly what i meant..

thats your 'mo logic - very sick.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Well excuse me for making a joke Mr serious. Lol geez do you even hear yourself?
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Anyways I'm out before this threads locked. See ya and please calm the eff down. It'll do you some good.

:-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Also I think you started a new slang - 'Mo? Really? Do you use the term so much you had to shorten it??? Lol :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
Ya I'm out. Sorry mods. :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
dont apologize for being a 'mo.. just leave and dont return. we dont want your sick kind in here.
[HTC Inspire 4G] trapzz:
its amazing.. this guy XAviierG offers to help me with an issue on my phone, gets in gmail chat with me, and helps me. but then he insults me on my thread. this guy is really sick in the head. i saw his pic in gmail chat. and i think he acts this way cuz his looks prevents him from getting girls.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Requills:
Whenever I turn on my screen, I see lines or a fuzzy gray box flashing across my screen. They go away in less than a second, but I am afraid that my screen is broken. This also happened on my first charge, so I was wondering if the cause could be my battery which I bought on ebay (samsung 1500mah). Also, my new phone almost never connects to 4g even though my old one got full bars.

Please help, I googled my problem and came up with nothing. I still have my first phone, could I send back the same phone they sent me in the box?

Thank you.
[Verizon Droid Charge] rnaiyc:
What you see on your screen is apparently common for other charge owners myself included. Saw it mentioned as screen "static"in a thread on here somewhere which it can look like sometimes. I don't think it's been associated with any screen issues so I wouldn't trip on it too hard over it. I'll take that quirky behavior with the screen quality!
[Verizon Droid Charge] Birthofahero:
Ya, this happens to me. kind of looks like you turn on a tv. Pretty cool lol.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Requills:
EThanks for the replies! I feel a lot better now that I know this is common. :D
[Verizon Droid Charge] mkarps:
Happens here too. I wouldn't worry about it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] n4m347yp3:
Every charge i've seen (7) has done it one time or another
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elvis_Marmaduke:
So my wife just got a fascinate (coming from Droid x) and I was wondering what a good kernel rom combination is for good battery life and stability?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] randum0city:
Post this in the q&a section. Not development...
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laureanop:
Powerwashed 1.2 with pbj 8-8 kernel seems to be the most reliable for a lot of people. If your phone cannot handle the under volt then use pw otb 8-15 kernel. Your radio should be ed 05
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elvis_Marmaduke:
My bad, can someone move it? haha

Thanks laureanop, I'll for sure look into those, I just have no starting point, everything is a lot easier on my OG droid... and my droid 2 has only a few options so that makes it easier too hahaha
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sageDieu:
For me, MIUI has the best battery life and is just great in general. I recommend giing it a try; it has a few issues but nothing major. The pros outweigh the cons.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Newgeta:
OTB Over Clock kernel and Evil Fascination ROM play well together on mine, thought you can have some radio issues (it was a pain to fix but my how to is on here somewhere) if you are going to do this from another non stock image.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elvis_Marmaduke:
I just installed power washed with the pbj kernel for now (not big on miui personally, feels unorganized like iOS and wasn't a huge fan on my OG Droid... Of course that was back when it like first came out lol i'm sure it's allot better now) i'm just waiting on the verdict from her on battery life and performance, played with it some last night and it felt great (especially after putting launcher pro instead of go launcher, which is nice but just didn't have that snappy feel I like) but you know everything seems fast @ first, we'll see after a couple days...

I'm sure it'll be allot better than stock either way lol

Edit: thank new I'll check that out if she's not big on the current setup, I see allot of people liking evil, so that was on my list of thing to try, just was not sure what to pair with, thanks!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exzacklyright:
CM7 + Glitch's Kernel.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sageDieu:
Yeah MIUI has gotten much slicker and faster recently. If you're not into that, go with Vanilla Gingerbread or CM7, they are both very fast and clean. I recommend the glitch kernel with underclocking and undervolting to get best performance and battery life.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elvis_Marmaduke:
Yeah I was prolly gonna throw cm7 on there but it's still in nighties so I'd rather not unless it was my phone :P
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elvis_Marmaduke:
The current setup of power washed and pbj seem to be pretty sweet for now...she was still at 70% after it being off the charger for about.... 19 or so hours...where she would normally be in the red after 15 or so...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Robertreda97:
First I was running Coderom 2x-2b and everything was great then i flashed gingerreal 1.1 and my quadrant score was maximum 1000 but it was fast and snappy then I flashed Fla.Sh X2 and factory reseted and wiped the cache and it's even faster than Gingerreal but the Quadrant score is still low!!

What's the problem???
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adil_:
Quadrant has a bug with 2.3.4..... The results are irrelevant.... Coderom is based on 2.3.4... flash & gingerreal are based on 2.3.3...

Don't depend on those scores to judge a rom...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Robertreda97:
Ok, I wasn't depending on the scores or anything coz the rom is so fast and excellent but I just wanted to know what's wrong because other people get high scores
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] mdfzhi:
another quadrant score fetish. lol