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[TouchPad Development] mengesb:
What the output means is if the device can take that much, it will. From meters, it appers that the TP will take about 1.85amps in charge rate... so the overhead is right for including a 2A charger.

I only made this comment simply because a lot of people think that over clocking breaks charging via certain methods - it does not. Note on Govnah - see the battery depletion rate? Remove your kernel and go back, notice how it is lower, not by a lot, but it is enough to flatline USB charging, or even make it a little negative. USB2 was never intended to power these large devices, hence why USB3 has been developed and pushed out.

Charging still works - just remember that over clocking your device may result in a zero sum charge while connected to a PC using the device, a very slow trickle charge while idle (dark screen), and nominally slower while on the AC adapter (noticed about a 15-20 minute difference... no biggie).
[TouchPad Development] mengesb:
Removal of an old kernel will result in automatic restoration of the default kernel - it NEEDS a kernel to boot.. where's this magical 'install default kernel' coming from?
[TouchPad Development] guinnes.s:
what is the max safe temp in Govnah?
[TouchPad Development] newtybar:
How does this affect battery life?

How many hours are you getting on 1.7ghz?
[TouchPad Development] 101matt101:
Anything up to 40 degrees should be fine. Above that. it's be pretty warm to hold. It'd feel "wrong".
[TouchPad Development] Hamst0r:
I followed the tutorial and govnah is on 1,7 ghz no probs, but when i want to change the frequency i get an error called "unable to open/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor"

:(
[TouchPad Development] icce007:
Go to preware

Select Available Packages

Select Kernel

Select Recovery - in here should be Palm Kernel (TouchPad) which is default kernel.

Install this will revert you back to default kernel - reboot - then you can install new kernel if need be.

Hope this help.
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
Why can't you just remove the OC kernel, reboot, then install a different one?

I've done that several times w/o installing the default kernel.
[TouchPad Development] jstep:
I need help

I NEED HELP! I just over clocked my touchpad last night and my battery died this morning. I have had it on the charger all day and nothing is happening. Any advice?
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
Reboot and try it again. If it doesn't work uninstall your kernel, reboot, reinstall it and try again.

Is it warm (or hot)? It won't charge if it's running and the cpu is racing.

Have you tried holding down the power and home buttons to reset it?
[TouchPad Development] jstep:
That worked, thanks so much. It was ice cold. What kernal did I need to install?
[TouchPad Development] Divine_Madcat:
so, I may have missed it, but one thing that confuses me is the scaling. With the f4 kernel, set to either ondemand or ondemandctl, the system either runs at the min freq, or shoots right up to the max (seems like a waste of power). Is this a product of the f4 kernel running both cores at full speed "full time", or am I oblivious to something...
[TouchPad Development] BraveDemon:
Anyone else have stability issues when running games on F4 Phantom kernel?

I can't play any of the WebOS games (specifically Asphalt 6 HD) with any of the overclock kernels, other than the stable 1.5 ghz (uber kernel).
[TouchPad Development] Mig1234:
Check your USB cable. Mine was faulty and they sent me a new one. I had to use the one that came with my phone and it worked until I received theirs by mail.
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
Warthog is my favorite. It works great at 1.7 and doesn't have all that startup text when booting. Just uninstall your kernel and install warthog, then clock it.
[TouchPad Development] TooSlo:
Interestingly I keep running into the NA on 2nd core when trying to use the F15 kernel, but the F4 kernel will allow me to actually run both cores.

I've done the "delete Govnah profiles, uninstall and recreate" stuff, but it's like my TP just doesn't want to use that kernel.
[TouchPad Development] dynezxice:
posted in wrong area.
[TouchPad Development] prbr123:
Hi,

I just followed the instructions.First core is overclocked, but not the second one - So, as per the instructions, I have removed and re-installed F15 Kernel. After restarting - HP logo is continously staying and nothing is working now. Is there a way to fix it?

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] bilbo6209:
Anyone else having trouble installing the latest F15 kernals? I went on to Preware a couple days ago and saw an update for F15 so I attempted to update.... I received an error, the IPCK log showed that it was unable to verify the installed files and the last line stated the device didnt have enough free space?!?!? I downgraded back to the stock rom and tried again (yes rebooted between attempts) and recieved the same error... I went to a diffrent kernal with no issues. I saw a new update yesterday and again downgraded to stock rom, rebooted, and attempted to install f15 and recieved the same error..... I checked and my 32gb device has about 27gb of free space, I deleted a handfull of apps and tried again (after a reboot) and got the same error.... I was able to install warthog with no issues..... I tried removing warthog, reinstalled stock kernal, and tried f15 again and got the same error again..... Is this just me, am I doing something wrong?
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Tried removing and reinstalling Preware?

The F15C kernel installed and updated fine for me :(
[TouchPad Development] technobrakes:
13.52MHz is that normal

sorry being an idiot ignore this post
[TouchPad Development] prbr123:
Hard reset solved the problem

Hard reset on my HP touchpad worked, and it is back now.

Hold Power and Center button along with volume up for 20 seconds. It responded and is up now. First core overclocked. Not planning to touch it until this weekend passes by.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
FYI

Hard reset is just power + home button

Recovery mode is power + volume up
[TouchPad Development] dumpsterfire:
what is the most stable kernel for 1.5 ?

i have warthog at 1.7, is that stable?

what is everyone running? how is Battery life? Heat?
[TouchPad Development] blacksea1:
Tried to install F15C it wont install i get an error, did all the steps, went back checked the feeds

webos-kernels-testing

http://preware.is.awesome.com/

is missing tried it and still no luck, also how do you remove a feed? i see most of you have a restart button, i only have an option to Shut Down or Cancel.
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
I never could get the second kernel running so I switched to Warthog kernel

You can turn off a feed in "Manage Feeds". There is an app you can add to get the extra buttons. Its in preware.

From the first post:

You can find these using the PREWARE application. Check under "List Everything"

Ad Blocker - Helps remove ads from your web browser. *warning, do not download more than 1 Ad-Blocker.

Remove Tap Ripple - Removes the tap ripple. Actually speeds up your Touchpad a little.

Increase Touchpad Volume - This can boost your Touchpad's volume a bit. NOT RECOMMENDED if you wish to retain speaker quality and longevity.

Advanced Reset Options - Gives you more reset options like "Restart Luna"

Faster Card Animations Hyper Version - Greatly increases the animations of your home screen cards. It makes a huge difference!

Increase Touch Sensitivity and Smoothness 10 - Makes touch more smooth, such as scrolling

Muffle System Logging - The HP Touchpad, stock, logs pretty much everything. It logs so much information that it actually slows down your touchpad. This helps stop that and increases performance!

Remove Dropped Packet Logging - As name implies...

Unset Cfq IO Scheduler - I don't know the specifics behind it, but it definately helps

Unthrottle Download Manager - HP download manager throttles download speeds. This removes it!

Private Browsing - As name implies, optional...
[TouchPad Development] hkfriends:
To be honest, today my first day to try these instructions, only 1.5G Available

F4 and Warthog only a dummy place holder. so cannot actually install the kernel
[TouchPad Development] :
Don't you mean kernel?
[TouchPad Development] pedromartinez1983:
Hey i dont know if anyone is having this problem . But i am now missing my restart options i had installed the patch Advanced Reset Option and although it did work i cannot seem to access it when i hold down the power button. i tried unistalling then reinstalling but i still have the same issue any help??
[TouchPad Development] kevina90:
You have to hold it down for like 10 sec. Really annoying.
[TouchPad Development] Joeway124:
seems like f4 runs the best, f15c does not work for both cores on my hp.
[TouchPad Development] batiatus:
I followed the steps but when i open govnah only cpu 1 frequency but cpu2 is 0. Also when i try to oc to 1.9 once i hit apply setting it freezes and restarts
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
what kernel? I never could get the f15 kernel to run both cores. And maybe you should try lower clock settings. Just because you can clock it at 1.9 doesn't mean it will be stable at 1.9
[TouchPad Development] batiatus:
Im using the f15. I unstalled and reinsatlled again. Oc to 1.7 but cpu2 is still 0
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
Change the governor to "ondemand" following the instructions in the first post. If that doesn't work (and it didn't for me) then uninstall and install another kernel. uberkerenel....warthog....f4
[TouchPad Development] hkfriends:
so far, which kernels better? any difference in between ?
[TouchPad Development] sniper1087:
have you tried opening several web pages or programs, the touchpad without apps running will only run 1 processor, if you run multiple the second core will run, thats what i figured out, is to save power on your tablet, otherwise the battery will be as bad as a phone :).
[TouchPad Development] durps:
I would recommend using f4 as it is full time dualcore and never turns off the second core. If youre trying to have dualcore fulltime but still wanna save battery make sure yiu use the ondemand governer instead of the ctlondemand one.
[TouchPad Development] Divine_Madcat:
so, dumb question.. What really is the difference between these two governers?
[TouchPad Development] decalex:
Would like to know too. I know that Ondemand typically means 'either or' in scaling, meaning either your max or min. No scaling in between. But don't know about ctl

. . NS4G . . CM7 . .
[TouchPad Development] hkfriends:
f4 seems drain battery so fast.... When I power off [sleep mode] my touchpad last night (90%), this morning battery down to 20%. What actually it is doing during sleep mode:confused:
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
I'm running F4 and my battery is 88% after 24 hours with some use last night.

Are you set to performance governor or a min speed much greater than 192?
[TouchPad Development] cachookaman:
i went to sleep with 85% battery and when i woke up it was at 83%. i put the touchpad on airplane mode at night because i dont need it to be checking messages in the background while im asleep. here are my settings in govnah.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Why don't you guys just plug your TP in at night? Takes not even 5 seconds.
[TouchPad Development] jjdavola:
Sorry for the n00b question, but I couldn't find the answer.

Since my second CPU is showing as 0, I tried to set Governor to ondemand, but when I hit apply I get a message saying:

Any suggestions or advice?
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Choose one of the profiles there. Then press back. Then exit the app. Then going back and creating a new profile.

Edit: Hopefully it works. I had this pain myself a while ago.
[TouchPad Development] jjdavola:
Thanks! I tried that and ondemand shows under that profile, but CPU 2 still shows as 0. :confused:

Thanks again!
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Don't worry about CPU2. Really. It will kick in only when it is deemed necessary by the system.
[TouchPad Development] jjdavola:
OK. But why is there the workaround?

Thanks again!
[TouchPad Development] toddreg:
What is the safest, fastest kernel to install?

There seems to be conflicting info on which kernel is the safest. I have just bumped up to 1.5 with no issues but hesitate to go higher.
[TouchPad Development] rockethead26:
I've been stable on F4 with both cores at 1.7 GHz for a couple of weeks now. No issues at all.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Well the "safest" in terms of warranty would be the stock Palm kernel. OCing really doesn't have a "safest" kernel. But if I were to pick, I would say just stick with Uberkernel. The other faster ones are in testing for a reason.

Edit: Even though I haven't had any major problems with any of them.
[TouchPad Development] Solidus_n313:
ive been using uberkernel for 2 days not, installed thru preware, working perfectly. monitoring and changing profile with govnah

workin link a charm @ 1.5gHz, the only downside is that after a reboot, you must set the profile back to ondemand, because palm default is the default profile, and from what ive seen, that cant be changed
[TouchPad Development] cachookaman:
ive been using the F4 kernel at 1.8 GHz for a few days now and havent had any problems. im using these settings:
[TouchPad Development] jleonard711:
I have installed the F15C kernel on several TP's in the past and I've always gotten a clock speed of 1.782Ghz. But then today I just DL'd and installed the F15C kernel on a new TP and it's only overclocking it to 1.512Ghz. Was that kernel recently modified? I last installed it just a few days ago and was still getting 1.782. And is there any way to change the clock speed of a perticular kernel, or is that not something which is easy to do?
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
Did you install Govnah? That's where you change the settings.
[TouchPad Development] gnueliafnak:
okay new to webOS since I just got the touchpad a few days ago, did all my updates and I'm ready for some OCing. this stuff seems simple enough like OCing my Android phone, but a few questions people:

where are the other Kernels for 1.7 and higher? I only see UberKernel and yes I have gone through all the "feed updates". I went to the testing feeds wiki and they said they removed it and I would have to manually add the feeds via linux commands?

please someone provide some insight on this! thanks!

edit: nevermind got it

---------- Post added at 01:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:20 PM ----------

quick question now, which kernel seems the most stable? should I go with the Warthog 1.7 or F4 1.7? Don't plan to OC more than that until 1.9 is stable.

---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:48 PM ----------

okay updated to F4 Kernel and set the settings to OnDemand at min 1.5 and max 1.7. this thing is MUCH faster than stock, god damn.
[TouchPad Development] Tostino:
It seems that they updated Preware, and these instructions no longer work =/. Kinda confused at the instructions on testing.preware.org.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
If you're confused, then maybe the testing feeds are not for you.

F15C also looks like it has been moved to Alpha feeds with this new update. Seems to have select-able full time dual-core as well.
[TouchPad Development] Tostino:
Why thank you for the useful response... I didn't say I didn't get it working; I did. I was just letting others know that the update breaks the old way of doing things.
[TouchPad Development] TooSlo:
I would NOT set a minimum at 1.5ghz. You're going to wreck your tablet running those speeds.

Liken it to running a car engine at 80% of redline MINIMUM. The engine isn't going to last long if you're doing that.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Never said you did get it working either. You said you were confused, I simply let you know if you don't understand it, don't use it. ;)
[TouchPad Development] gnueliafnak:
Then whats a good minimum? I got that suggestion from someone else in this thread who had the same settings sorta.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
I have mine set to 192 MHz....
[TouchPad Development] csshih:
exactly - setting yours at such a high minimum sounds like a terrible idea and a waste of battery life?

Craig
[TouchPad Development] brushrop03:
Hey guys. So I had my F15c installed but uninstalled just to show my friend the difference. And now I can't find F15C or warthog in preware. have they been taken down? :(
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds#Using_Preware
[TouchPad Development] brushrop03:
So does that mean they're only in the beta and alpha test feeds now?
[TouchPad Development] gnueliafnak:
alright thanks.

i switched the min to 192mhz and max to 1.7 with up threshold at 65%, sound good?
[TouchPad Development] rwhitby:
See http://testing.preware.org/ which is the wiki page that all how-to's should simply point to instead of copying information and then becoming obsolete as they are now.

-- Rod
[TouchPad Development] winn75:
Does Uberkernel allow dual cores to be 1.5ghz? I selected ondemandctl but it's just one core running at 1.5ghz. Can I create a profile to run both cores at max speed?
[TouchPad Development] winn75:
Is there a new, simple step by step guide on how to install the warthog or f15c kernels?
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Add Beta testing feed for Warthog, install.

Add Alpha testing feed for F15C, install.
[TouchPad Development] hutchy007:
This is the question i would like to know though is a step by step guide in using linux to add the command lines. So far i have installed executah but am unsure as to whether i have authorised the commands correctly.. how will i know?

And im sorry for not being an expert on this, but i have learnt everything i know about comps and phones from forums and doing, so please dont insult me by saying i shouldnt be trying this as my touchpad. As its currently clocked fine and working like a dream, and so i find it slightly annoying about the comments about not trying if you dont understand how to do it!

As far as im concerned, the only way i will learn is through questions and doing.

Cheers,

hutchy :D

Well scratch that - ive somehow managed to bumble my way through it - A step by step guide would syill be nice though :D
[TouchPad Development] antdizzo:
ok, been searching for answers and it seems like everytime my question is asked by somebody, somebody else (even the wiki) say "if you don't know what to do, don't ask"... which imo is kinda pointless since this is a forum for people to come and share their knowledge.

so my question is, i enabled beta and alpha testing, but the commands to add a feed keep saying they are obsolete. so im assuming i just install one of the kernels and it automatically overclocks? what is it that i need to do?
[TouchPad Development] winn75:
Could you provide a "How to" setup novaterm or executah to enable the beta and alpha fees?
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Edited for Mr. Whitby.
[TouchPad Development] LBCaptivate:
There is a much easier way. Just use Web OS Quick Install and open the Linux command line. Then just follow the directions.

http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
[TouchPad Development] riccardo55:
hello, a greeting to the forum, I tried to install beta testing, with Linus and the command of Xecutah quickinstall, following the instructions, but both give me the following error:

-sh: mkdir-p; not found.

installing prewar fact I have no beta testing, I definitely made ​​a mistake, someone can help me please?

After writing the command lines before installing Prewo, I have to close Xecutah?

Thank you.
[TouchPad Development] 305buddyluv:
This sounds fun, Is this still available?
[TouchPad Development] rwhitby:
Which part of the following rule from http://testing.preware.org/ was not clear to you?

7. They will never post the raw testing feed URLs or instructions anywhere, but will always refer others directly to this page using only the URL "http://testing.preware.org/"

Posts like yours are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Now anyone reading your post will enable the alpha feeds without reading any of the rules or warnings, and will have non-booting phones or touchpads as a result. The rules are there for a good reason.

-- Rod
[TouchPad Development] riccardo55:
Hello Rod, I followed the written rules of preware.org testing, both on quickinstall, and Xecutah, and I have always the same error:

-sh: mkdir-p; not found,

How can I create the directory mkdir-p to install the beta feed (warthogkernel), so that Preware, the kernel makes available, for overclocking touchpad.

I followed the procedure several times: to eliminate Preware, write commands, such as from testing preware org but nothing rinstallare prewar varthog the kernel there is, at first sending the command( write with Xecutah): mkdir-p / var / preferences / org.webosinternals . Preware, gives me the error:-sh: mkdir-p; not found, now how can I avoid this error and how to create the directory mkdir-p?

Please ask the help of someone, because they are inexperienced and would like to try overclocking webOS on the touchpad, thanks.

Riccardo
[TouchPad Development] agentdr8:
There should be a space between mkdir and -p
[TouchPad Development] rwhitby:
If you want to "try" overlocking (as opposed to being an effective alpha tester or beta tester for the unstable experimental kernels), then you should simply install UberKernel from the public feeds and run it at 1.5GHz. You don't need any of the instructions in this thread to do that, just use http://bit.ly/phd-ac

-- Rod
[TouchPad Development] riccardo55:
sorry Rod, I would like to try the kernel "varthog" I've read that it is very stable, and runs on both cores, unlike uberkernel that works on one, I politely if you can give a kind help, not being an expert webOS, varthog to install, I tried to give a space between, and mkdir-p now does not give me more errors, but says that the various directory "var - preferences etc.." exist and can not create them, while the second line .... enable-beta-feed, does not give me any message, if you have a solution for me to try the varthog I would be grateful, and I am aware of the risks they run, as read preware.testing.org, thanks.

Riccardo
[TouchPad Development] rwhitby:
That is also obsolete misinformation. All WebOS Internals kernels use both cores. There was an alpha testing version of the Govnah tool which only controlled one core, but the public release of UberKernel and Govnah have always used both cores.

Yet another reason to only use public feed releases and only enable the alpha and beta testing feeds if you are closely following the alpha and beta testing forum threads (which are on another forum, not this one).

-- Rod
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Posts like mine are the problem? Posts like yours are the problem. This is a forum meant to help people. That's what I did, help.

Oh god, now they have the feeds enabled AGAIN, like this thread was originally meant to do. Hell, berate the OP as well as me. People like OCing higher than Uberkernel allows, and my instructions which are simple to follow (unlike your ever so helpful wiki page) allows for that.

Edit: Erased them anyway.