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[Nook Color Android Development] ChrisDDD:
And how does that impact you? If some hack makes a poorly performing mod, the first 2 or 3 people who try it will review it accordingly and it'll fall by the wayside.

My "deal" is that your demand for your approval totally flies in the face of the very ideal that open source software, and Android by extension, is based on - and the very thing that allowed YOU to build this very rom.

I'm sure it's hard, and I'm sure you have. But, and don't take this personally, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the difficulty and effort that went into the development of the underlying OS. The developer(s) of the Linux kernel, the Android OS and the Cyanogen ROM all invested far more time and effort and not a single one ever demanded what you have.

I'm just suggesting some perspective. Everyone appreciates the work devs here do, but the minute one starts acting like they're God's gift, the appreciation understandably tanks.

Don't put words in my mouth and don't be so presumptuous.

I never criticized your work, I have done some (admittedly minimal) hacking on Android myself, I have posted anything I've made and I've never given a flying rat's ass if someone takes my work, modifies or uses it with or without credit.

I would suggest you're the one who needs to heed this advice, not me.
[Nook Color Android Development] joenathane:
The only people who will flash this are the ones who don't know any better. This isn't a new "ROM" it just CM7 with some scripts applied, what exactly the scripts do, the OP won't say anything but that they "max out" the system(technical specs would go along way to silence the naysayers).

My recommendation, stay with the Nightlies or CM7 stable, that way when new features, bug fixes and optimizations come down the line you will be sure to receive them and not have to wait on one random guy to rebuild his mod.

On another note this thread is a circus, I expect once a moderator comes around 75% of the post will be removed... I don't want to contribute to the "fight" so this is the last I will post in this thread.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
If you have an ext partition already then no need to repartition
[Nook Color Android Development] sparksco:
ok first off if your a MIUI Rom type of person then why are you posting in here? No one is twisting your arm to flash the rom. We are not here to convince anyone of anything. And what is the deal with all the ChainsDD wannabee's? If you want to know what the scripts do in technical terms then they are all on github. So yes it is open source, or they would not be there. Only kernels require a source but we choose to put them there. And I have been on Gerrit Code review on more then one occasion and was the first one to patch the sd-ext patch for recovery, Which can be seen here: https://github.com/pbeeler/android_device_htc_speedy/tree/patch-1

Since May 22nd which is when it was approved, many devs have merged similar patches into their recoveries. So please do not flame me for who has done what. We have all done things.
[Nook Color Android Development] HaiKaiDo:
Man no wonder XDA is slowly losing devs(and another un-named forum is gaining them). Im guessing people are afraid of getting crucified by people like all of you who are brow beating these guys just for releasing something you "dont like" or "dont think is a 'Real Rom'". If you dont like what they did....just navigate away from the page. No need for all this useless flaming. sheesh. Who knows what would come from what these guys are doing, they could decide to make a totally new rom, with amazing features (just an example but this goes for anyone who is trying their hand at any sort of developing and is being beaten to death by a community who is receiving wonderful things for free while contributing nothing themselves 98% of the time). They could also fade away into nothingness, and that would be fine too. My point is, if you dont like something, get away from it, dont try to scream at them because you dont like it. They (or any dev) took the time to ATTEMPT to make something, and from experience its NOT easy. Let those who attempt to grow, grow, and those who try to hog the spotlight die of their own hand.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
I appreciate your support. But if all that me and my friends get is this. Then this is why xda will continue to lose devs to other sites.
[Nook Color Android Development] SprintFun:
Because I like to see the other available options? But at the same time it takes more than "OMG ITS MAXED OUT" to get me to flash something?
[Nook Color Android Development] ChrisDDD:
The brow beating is for the blatant double standard. Even if this rom was as awesome as they say, the effort breakdown is still 99.99995% Cyanogen team, .00005% these guys. That's not a criticism, that's simply reality.

The Cyanogen team releases all their code, no strings attached, no approval required, no credit even necessary. These guys assemble CM7 with a half dozen minor mods and scream about how no one should use their ****.

I totally agree that we owe the developers here and elsewhere infinite thanks, but before you go riding to these particular two's defense, consider the choices we'd have if all developers were as protective of their code as they are. We have what we do and owe thanks for what we have because of the developers who embrace the ideal of open source software.

And the effort of these guys IS still appreciated, it'd just be nice to see a hint of modesty considering how much of other developer's work they used here. Instead, they seem to just get more and more defensive.
[Nook Color Android Development] jermaine151:
Guys, CM releases their code as free to use and redistribute. These guys just want to be asked to use their scripts if you use them in a rom that you'll publish. It's not that big of a deal. I'd like someone to ask me before using my stuff too. It's not that I'd say no, but it's a courtesy. Let's please either try this or don't try it. No reason to be hostile about it.

P.S. Considering the fact that there's only like 4 or 5 viable roms for the NC, I'm amazed that some would bash these guys because of a term of use you don't agree with. They have the right to say that.

Have a good day! :)

EDIT: That being said, blah, your OP opening with the bold and exclamation points could be inciting folks. There's a more polite way to get that point across. I'm just saying...
[Nook Color Android Development] xboxexpert:
I see "thanks" to people who have created the rom and done development towards the base. I see what it was compiled from, what was added, the sources to some of the additions and a simple request to

ask

to use the "scripts".

Anyone else *****ing in this thread will be considered

retarded and childish

. Push out what ever ROM's you want from what ever bases you want because I don't see anything worth wild other then CM7 and MIUI. Its actually nice to see something else here since I got castrated the same way just a few months back. I ended up just saying **** it and removing the ROM from the site since you childish ignorant couldn't handle something new coming from something already existing.

End point is if your thinking of posting negativity put your nook down grab some boobies then come back and rethink what your going to post.
[Nook Color Android Development] shoot2scre:
Xbox and Jermaine are exactly on point.

To all the developers here... the dumbest people are always the loudest. Don't let the haters discourage you. There are far more people (like myself) who lurk here and don't post much. The number of your silent supporters dwarf the local contingent of vocal assholes. If you poured hours of your life into something, it shouldn't even be a question... if someone wants to use your work, they HAVE to ask. It's not only the decent thing to do, it's the morally responsible and legally ethical thing to do. "Even if it's just scripts"
[Nook Color Android Development] hazridi:
I just don't see the need for roms based off cyanogenmod when stock CM7 is so usable on this device.

As it is, most of the developers for the nook are pushing their patches directly upstream -- this seems to be the best way to do things, as we don't need 100 roms that are 99.9975% the same code with scripts that consist of setting /proc settings.

People complain about the lack of roms but they don't understand that contributing upstream gives us far higher quality roms.

Anyway, I took a look at your scripts and they don't ... you know, do anything, other than the sd card stuff really. How is it maxed out? I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a technical explanation of how something is maxed out -- especially when the reason you are unwilling to provide said explanation is that your scripts are 50 lines total.
[Nook Color Android Development] dalingrin:
I increased the readahead buffer months ago in CM7. Its a 1mb right now and thats plenty. Its far more than it would normally be(128k).
[Nook Color Android Development] rhester72:
My biggest issue here is with the blatant (mis)appropriation of licensed work.

You absolutely have no right to include any "free" ad-blocking software without express written consent of the copyright holder. The fact that it is "free" in the Market has absolutely nothing to do with right of redistribution (or lack thereof), and there's no compelling reason you couldn't have simply shipped with a pre-modified /etc/hosts containing reasonably current entries and given the end user the choice of whether they'd like to install adblocking software on their own. (Some software now actually detects this and warns the user about it - it won't be long before functionality starts being disabled in ad-supported software for users running adblockers.)

What's worse is the inclusion of gapps. Why on earth was this necessary? There's a reason it's not bundled with CM7 (or any other significant distribution), and that is because it is in clear violation of Google's licensing terms. If an end user chooses to "acquire" gapps on their own and install them, the responsibility lies with them - by bundling it with the ROM, you're pissing directly on the creators of Android for no good reason and can easily strain relations with them. It's simply not a risk worth taking, and is completely unnecessary - there is *nothing* about your solution that precludes the user finding and installing gapps on their own (never mind the well-documented issues with the updated market). "Convenience" is not an excuse.

Rodney
[Nook Color Android Development] xboxexpert:
If he installs free "ad-blocking" software and allow the editing of hosts file then moves the hosts file to his "custom" rom is that legal? :) He wouldn't be distributing the actual software just using the software temporary to download the list of blocked addresses to/and inserting them into the hosts file. I see no problems in doing that. Loop hole achieved.
[Nook Color Android Development] noregretzzzz:
I am excited to try this rom this weekend! I have been waiting for ext compatibility. Couple questions though,

-Is this rom based off cm stable or nightlies?

-is the ext script similar to the dtapps2sd script?

-and is the optimization similar to how aamikam optimizes for the evo4g,dinc,evo3d roms?

Again, can't wait to try this out. Thanks!

Ps. Sorry if this has already been asked, but reading through 7 pages of flamers is rather annoying.
[Nook Color Android Development] davidfig:
http://blog.pyromod.com

how about blog.pyromod.com
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
I changed that sadly. It works better at 2.5mb for me
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
I'm already done with nook. Most devs include ad-block into their roms and yet I don't see them getting bashed. And why did I include gapps? Because it works better. Anything that results in one flash is better.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Based off cm github. The scripts are not darktremors and runs better. Optimization is similar I'm not sure actually since i don't know how they do things. And its perfectly fine though.

Let me know how it runs though
[Nook Color Android Development] rabi347:
Does this rom install to internal memory or the sd card. If internal memory is there a way to install it to the sd card and retain the original 1.2 rom?
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Its originally internal memory. I never got around to making it work on sdcard. It might cause issues since sd-ext is a part of it
[Nook Color Android Development] Arbelzapf:
I have seen criticism on other roms/devices, but not because of licensing issues, but because of the fact that ad-blocking destroys the concept of free ad-supported apps. While everyone is free to do what he pleases with his device, it's probably not a good idea to include stuff in a rom that actively prevents developers from getting money for their work.

Imagine a browser extension that filters out huge disclaimers that your work shall not be used without permission, only worse.

Edit: Just to make sure I don't come off like a jerk: I've been following this thread since it was posted and I have mixed feelings about it. I really appreciate your work as I appreciate any development for Android and the Nook. While I can fully understand many points made here, I fail to see how these could be worth 7-9 pages of flaming and destructive criticism. You wrote that you are done with the Nook and I can understand that. This sure wasn't the warmest welcome I have experienced in my time here.

On the other hand, we're 9 pages in and we still don't have a clue what this Rom actually does to max out the system. The two tweaks from other sources (readahead and rambooster) seem to have caused nothing but debate over their usefulness, so we can't even be sure about these
[Nook Color Android Development] shobon:
I just installed and this ROM is lightning fast! Can we expect a different boot animation in the future, I personally don't like it, but it's not a deal breaker :3
[Nook Color Android Development] Goonish:
2 days and a few trolls then you're done wanting to work on the nook and continue your rom?

That's a bit disappointing as good as this rom might be, you're just willing to give up like that?

I haven't even found a chance to test it and leave feedback, probably won't now if you've already given up.

People seem to have short/long term memory loss almost all roms cope a bit of flack now and then it's up to how the devs handle these cases that influence the support and success.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
I'll make you guys a deal. If I get 10 positive feedback. I'll continue making roms for nook
[Nook Color Android Development] DaytonaDU:
Where are the mods?

9 pages of childish flaming and almost 0 useful/relevant info. I am glad to have another option for the NC. I'd rather you not leave.
[Nook Color Android Development] blackthought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWweqP_ZWbg
[Nook Color Android Development] shobon:
PyroMod is probably one of the fastest ROM's I've used thus far. I love the choice font and all the special effects. I'm getting SOD's on occasion, but fixing permissions seems to solve that.

EDIT: I also prefer it with GAPPS and Facebook installed, it saves me a lot of time.

EDIT2: It'd also be nice to have some Nook-specific features, like perhaps removing phone-only apps and such.
[Nook Color Android Development] andrewddickey:
Seriously? Don't be an ass.

Keep crap comments to yourself. You're not helping anything.

On a more positive note: everything seems good to me. Haven't done extensive testing, but it's really fast and no SODs for me.
[Nook Color Android Development] shobon:
+1

My SOD's came from Beautiful Widgets. I just got rid of them and all is well.
[Nook Color Android Development] Goonish:
You mean feedback in this thread, right?

Removing craplets, such as phone specific stuff would be awesome!

I'll give it a whirl tonight and let you know what I think in detail!
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Sure thing guys. I'll remove the phone options since nook isn't a phone tablet lol. Might be a while since I'm on vacation
[Nook Color Android Development] shobon:
Take your time and enjoy yourself, I look forward to the future of this.
[Nook Color Android Development] jgaf:
Can someone try running Zelda OOT or Majoras on N64oid to see if it runs smoother in this rom?
[Nook Color Android Development] SCrid2000:
Ive been following this thread and havent said anything yet, so I figured I'd pop in and say I do appreciate you deving for the nook.
[Nook Color Android Development] arrjaytea:
This is a great example of why I (and I'm sure many others, notably phiredrop et al) don't bother with this place all that often anymore, and XDA may be in general the pinnacle of a "stereotypical" internet forum.

You folks stay classy now. Juiceboxes and orange slices for all.
[Nook Color Android Development] TheValk:
My kids really like Mandarin oranges and juice boxes.
[Nook Color Android Development] BugsBunny891:
downloading the mod right now. cant wait to try it out
[Nook Color Android Development] newellj79:
Thanks for gracing us with your presence. I'm sorry, who r u? Phiredrop has some nice themed roms. R u friends with him? He can probablly speak for himself.

Sorry to be off topic. For some reason this bothered me. And I don't even follow this thread.
[Nook Color Android Development] insink71:
Blah,

I have always only had positive things to say of Pyro. Perhaps people do not realize, but one votes for a ROM or dev project by contributing to it. Negative comments are never helpful and criticism is only helpful if there are solutions offered as well. It only makes me think that people that flame have nothing better to do and do not in any way realize the long hours put in with little return by the awesome devs in the xda community. There, I have said my peace... dev on.

Rob
[Nook Color Android Development] rigy73:
I appreciate your work on this rom, i really do but including a Adblock only sends out one message which is "f**k the developers, i don't give a **** how much work they put in their applications".

Really? why install a hosts file which people can download from a market in just a few steps. With this step you are supporting the use of adblock which is even worse that using an adblock.
[Nook Color Android Development] Wifflepig:
You don't know your own kernel? Wtf.

And yes, you SHOULD state changes, not just say "optimized". I'll pass just cuz being so lame secretive about it.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Go ahead and pass on it. That's fine with me.
[Nook Color Android Development] blackthought:
Exactly, this guy aint no developer, only a script kiddie at best! How could a "developer" not even know which kernel his "rom" is using?
[Nook Color Android Development] votinh:
First, I want to say and intend to say thanks to the Pryo DEV team. You guys do spend time and make something up, it's great. However, as a 6-month power user, newbie if you want to call, this is my first time aware of the new ROM, your ROM. I really don't know how good or how bad it is. A few points I think you and your team would or should do.

+ clearly indicate your ROM work. Is it compiled from scratch or based on CM7

+ what kernel (drivers) your ROM use?

+ If they are based on others' works, clearly give credit to their work (or permission)

+ Not a lot of people know what it is or how it looks, if you want more users, clearly post some detail pics to attract more.

+ just a little note for you team, if your product is great, pls let users praise it, you don't. You open up and claim your product is so great and bash 1-star graders was just plain silly. Let users say what they want to say. If your ROM is good, I'm sure people would recognize it.
[Nook Color Android Development] shobon:
You need to read the thread better. In the OP, he states it's compiled from the CM(7) git. In a later posts he says that it uses the stock theme.
[Nook Color Android Development] blackthought:
Actually, you need to read the thread better.

Stable, Nightlies or RC? He doesn't say and it makes all the difference.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Haha. You didn't get it better than. I said I compiled the rom from cm github. You just proved to me that you know nothing about deving.

Compiling from source includes ALL of the changes that would go into a nightly and newly merged commits before a nightly is released.
[Nook Color Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
The rom works merely bcause if it didn't I wouldn't release it. Compiled from cm github. The kernel is stock kernel. And about credit. Since the guy who made the kernel is in cyanogenmod team that's where he goes as well.
[Nook Color Android Development] blackthought:
Wow, you are a tool! There are these little things called branches in github, there is the gingerbread and gingerbread-release branches for CM7, depending on which one you used you'd either compile stable or nightly.

All need to look no further to know this Blah guys work is just that Blah!
[Nook Color Android Development] shobon:
How would you know without using it? You really need to put yourself in the shoes of the developer.
[Nook Color Android Development] hazridi:
This person who released this ROM is no developer, for sure.

Altering the SD card buffer does not a rom make.
[Nook Color Android Development] arrjaytea:
The real question is who are you? The answering being "Someone who doesn't know how to spell the words "are" and "you", apparently.

And as the topic of this thread is little more than about how prominent petulant children who have little more to do than whine on the internet are on these forums, I'd say you don't really have to worry about being off topic. You're spot on mate, spot on.
[Nook Color Android Development] sparksco:
You are wrong. When you compile cm source code it says status=release. You would know that if you ever compiled a rom. Also target simulator=false because it is a real rom meant to be flashed, and is set to release status.
[Nook Color Android Development] sparksco:
The other thing is...if you think that a theme seperates a real dev from a non-dev then you are mistaken. That's why themes are posted in the themes sections and not development. This rom is basicly like a introduction of the stock rom before it get's hacked to pieces with themes ect. Also there are plenty of good theme apk's on the market that will work fine with theme chooser...There's really no point in making a theme or a kernel if people are going to complain about it and continuously insult us and question our credibility as developers...
[Nook Color Android Development] irtehun:
I gotta ask. What site is everyone moving to. Only 2 choices for the nook color was lame. Then these guys post this and all u people do is ***** and flame. If u don't like the ROM, get the **** off the thread.
[Nook Color Android Development] blackthought:
You have a great day sir!
[Nook Color Android Development] racks11479:
Mod?????????????? :oP
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funkingrv:
Hello everyone Noobie here. First off, both phone and tab are rooted. I have been using the tether wifi 3.1 beta 2 for tethering and everything worked great. I recently updated the the tablet using the update on the tablet and I am still able to connect to the phone via wifi, but no 3G data as of now. Anyone??
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funkingrv:
FYI

I use Barnacle to wifi and tether to the lap top which is ad-hoc with no problem. Bueller??
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funkingrv:
Bueller???
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] neanderthal0:
I got bored and thought I would try new app and saw the Absolute System app, it has LOTS of boot animations and will let you edit them to fit your screen and install them right from the app. (Root and S-off required, of course)

It's lots of fun and helps ease the pain of early development.

Check it out... https://market.android.com/details?id=com.canvs2321.absolute.system