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[HTC Desire S] deadwilder:
it's not a thread for development section...

and first of all RTFM! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
[HTC Desire S] Akerhage:
I did see that guide after making this thread....just want to make sure it is alright with my phone aswell.

And since I already started the thread. Maybe some moderator can move it to the general section.
[HTC Desire S] Tik_Tak:
all the guides are ok, just read them!
[Acer Iconia A500] autom8r:
Hey all,

I am on my 3rd Iconia now.. The first one had a couple dead pixels, the second one creaked like mad and could flex way too much (I believe someone put the backing up improperly), now, this new unit the bottom edge of the glass can be pushed down about 1/16th of an inch, it feels slightly loose and a bit different from the top glass. I notice this especially in the middle of the bottom edge and to the right of the bottom edge.

Does anyone else notice that if you push near the bottom edge of the glass (opposite side of the volume rocker, I'd call the volume rocker the top) the glass bends/gives a tiny bit in the middle and the right edge?

All in all, I do not think this will cause any issues, it could even be designed that way on purpose as the speakers are behind this area in the glass.

Thoughts? I really don't feel like returning a 3rd unless it's necessary (I've set these things up 3 times now!)

I really appreciate anyone chiming in with their own Iconia's findings,

Autom8r
[Acer Iconia A500] mknewman:
Return it. Mine does none of that. Check your new one in the store before you take it home.
[Acer Iconia A500] autom8r:
UGH! Not even a little give on the bottom edge? I can't believe I may have to get a 4th unit.. how the heck can these be so different unit to unit? Seeing as the last 3 I've had had defects, I may just stick with this one as this defect is minor and unless the screen falls off, there is no effect from this defect.

I am slapping it in a case today, and I may just mentally ignore it. I like this tablet a lot more than the other Android tablets, the sound is awesome and the speed is good too.

I feel so stupid going back for a 4th lol...
[Acer Iconia A500] Torisen:
Mine does not do that either, I'd say you should go back for your 4th one, man thats a bummer. Sorry to hear about your troubles sir.
[Acer Iconia A500] autom8r:
Alright, it's official, I am going back for a 4th tablet... wow. For those who have no problems, can you please check the build date of your tablet? I will try to get one around the same build date. Mine was built in May 2011, I guess I should look for something more recently built.
[Acer Iconia A500] ziggy34:
No problems with mine, may 2011 build.
[Acer Iconia A500] autom8r:
Thanks, I wonder why these are so hit or miss! Dangit....
[Acer Iconia A500] PapaTim:
Solid

Mine is solid as a rock.
[Acer Iconia A500] thehunted1:
Not sure where to find the build date but I have none of those issues with mine. I played with the wife's and none of that on hers either. In fact she uses hers a lot more than me.
[Acer Iconia A500] ziggy34:
Build date is on the box
[Acer Iconia A500] Euclid's Brother:
got mine in late april and it's spongy at the bottom center like you said. on the far edges, the glass is lower than the bottom aluminum piece, but in the center, it's higher. Mines been that way for a couple of months. i didn't notice it until after the 14-day return period.
[Acer Iconia A500] autom8r:
Actually all the display models felt exactly like mine when pressed in the same spots, I think it is normal, so convinced I didn't bother trading in. I'm gunna need a cases anyway so its a moot point then regardless! Cheers!
[Acer Iconia A500] markteacher:
Same here with mine, no movement I mean. The glass is solid as a rock all the way round the frame

Take it back, and keep going until you get a good one, they are faaaaaar too expensive to accept low build quality.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
odd

Have a May 2011 build on mine according to the box - no strange issues like you are reporting.

You may qualify as the most unlucky person ever, four tabs with build quality issues is pretty damn unlucky :(
[Acer Iconia A500] autom8r:
actually they all give in these spots I assume you guys are pushing right on the edge, if you press about half an inch above the edge you will see flex. All the display models did this too, it is a non issue to me now cheers!
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
under alot of light check closely

My tab has movement in the same area.if you look really closely.for me it looks as thou its the allumn that is moving not so much the display.thoui can see how it seems tto be the glass

Hope you see the same after second look.I would worry about the glass.this so called allumn tab

Is plastic with a very thin allumn skin. Yes I had One apart.
[Acer Iconia A500] frankws:
Got mine during the $100 off about 3 1/2 weeks ago.

Build date is July. No flexing on mine.

I see many people complaining about the charger having a short cord.

Mine is 5 feet. Were the older ones shorter?
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Nope. That's what we all got - a cheapo extension cord fixes that "issue" :-)
[Acer Iconia A500] timmytutone:
Absolutely no spongy on mine. Rock solid with no problems what so ever. Love this tablet. April 2011 build.
[Acer Iconia A500] StiHacka315:
Mine's loose, too

I apologize for reviving this old thread but is this "sponginess" in the area near the docking connector common and tolerated? Mine does it after only three days (holding it mostly vertical). It was tight as drum when I bought it and I can see how this could be attributed to material fatigue when one holds the tab by the long thin aluminum edge. It feels like the edge is slowly giving way and bending.
[Acer Iconia A500] dbn045:
I recently got the acer iconia tablet and I want to root and possibly flash it to a different rom if there are better ones. I did this with my lg ally, I rooted it and then flashed velocity 1.1 on it and it made it much better. I want to do this with my acer tablet now. I read people can overclock them to 1.4ghz and that just sounds sweet lol how did you guys root these tablets? Do you use the easy oneclick root apps? and are there better roms for it besides the stock one?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] amwbt:
Can we possibly get MattedBlues ported for COG5?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ryboto:
I asked for this a while back, nothing really came of it :(
[Captivate Themes and Apps] amwbt:
Yep, looks like we are out of luck.
[General Questions and Answers] VirtualWiz:
Can anyone help me install this rom? I tried but bricked my phone; recently got it fixed. But i want to try and install the OpenZio rom again. Any help?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] cammiso94:
i have moto droid 1 and i have MIUI, and whenever i plug it into my computer to mount usb mass storage, it doesn't pop up. i even went into settings and switched the PC/ sync setting around. now, whenever i want to use the usb storage, i have to go into recovery and manually mount it. its annoying. :/

any fix?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] mateusm:
Reinstalling the drivers on your pc is my guess.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Jimmy34742:
I don't see any recent discussions of how well Apple's slim bluetooth keyboard works with Android, let alone the SGS2. I took my Apple keyboard out of moth balls, and it seems to me to work very well. Of course, it's very comfortable to use. Even more importantly, it just plain works with the SGS2: they paired immediately and no funny typing glitches. It's almost as well integrated as my ASUS Transformer's keyboard is with the TF 3G: I can move around the home screens with the arrow keys, F1 hits the menu button, ESC hits the back button. F3 opens messaging for some reason, and F4 acts as the phone's power button, even turning it on. If anyone has discovered any shortcutting available via the Apple keyboard's fn, opt, and cmd keys, etc., please post, because they seem to me to have no effect aside from flashing the soft buttons.

In the search for a laptop replacement, SGS2/Apple is beating out my TF due to the latter's having numerous small glitches with the apps I use. In terms of my work flow (too many small factors to mention), the SGS2 is just better than even the most functional, 3G-enabled tablet. In addition, I can get loads of battery time from the SGS2 by carrying extra small, lightweight batteries, so the TF doesn't even have an advantage there.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] eiraku:
That's good to hear, considering I still have mine. I don't use it that much though.

Thanks for testing it out!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzaza:
Hello,

I tried to use app2sd and move the cache, dalvick cache and all application data to the microSD class 2 but my phone got very slow response and I had to wait about 8 seconds for each application to open after I click it's icon.

I want to know if I bought microSD class 10 and then try to use app2sd will I still experience the slow response or will it be fast enough so that I don't find a difference between the internal memory and the class 10 microSD?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AssassinSvK:
differences between class 2 and class 10 is huge, but for app2sd class 4 or 6 is highly enough,

i use class kingston class 10 + cm7r2 hboot tried many roms and no problem at all

so if you buy a class 6 or class 10 you wil be satisfied very well :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erklat:
Creator of data2sd script.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
about 8 seconds for each application to open? u have some serious problems...that is not normal....wipe all partitions form recovery, re-format/re-partition the sd card and install the rom again..even with a class 2 every app should open instantanly, not in some seconds..

in addition avoid the stock "move to sd", leave all the apps in the internal memory/sd-ext, but don't use move to sd, as it sometimes that get the phone slow..better only use app2sd
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AssassinSvK:
also the speed depend on the kernel i guess, as i said with my class 10 no problem on any rom, just suprb speed, buy class 6 then instead of class 10 and do some reasearch :) your move :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erklat:
I have no issues with stock class 2 card, so something has to be badly broken with his device. I am merely pointing that class 10 obviously is not obligatory gadget for dalvik cache to work properly - if we assume it is responsible for poor performance.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Parva4:
I would strongly advise against buying a class 10 for the Desire. I bought one thinking it would be faster as did a friend of mine. My friends class 10 refuses to work point blank with either his or my phone, my class 10 works but it's very unreliable and I'm seeing some very low Quadrant scores. When I say unreliable, I have a 1Gb ext partition on it that seems not to work properly and I also had a Nandroid backup restore fail as the MD5 checksum failed. I'm getting a class 4 16Gb off Ebay now.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mite_jan:
how can i check what class is my sd card ?

without opening the phone if it is possible :)

and what is the preffered class for data2ext ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrismast:
I also got a Class 10 and I am running InsertCoin 1.1.1 with CM7r2, no issues at all regarding speed. Whereas the speedtest shows that I do not reach full speed for the class 10 (just around 6MB/s write speed, with version 1.1.0 I had 8-9MB/s).
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Hi ya'll,

I've just added USB host mode support for the Galaxy Tabs. ( Can some mod move this post to the Android developer forum and bless me for posting in that forum? I'm happy to answer questions/discuss but I can't post there yet because I just created this account)

[Ugh! because I have less than eight posts I can't include github links - you'll need to linkify yourself... ]

The github site is here:

github.../humcycles/galaxy-tab-modified

Documentation on the changes:

github.../humcycles/galaxy-tab-modified/blob/master/Kernel/Documentation/usb/s3c-otg-host.txt

The changelist you probably want if you are want to cherry-pick into another kernel tree:

github.../humcycles/galaxy-tab-modified/commit/99388abf98f8b8583dcfb31339c8673a9fea62bd

These changes fix a number of bugs in the Samsung host mode software but are probably not well suited for regular end users. I would recommend that developers who are generating Galaxy Tab kernels consider picking up these changes.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] pvtjoker42:
https://github.com/humcycles/galaxy-tab-modified

https://github.com/humcycles/galaxy...ter/Kernel/Documentation/usb/s3c-otg-host.txt

https://github.com/humcycles/galaxy-tab-modified/commit/99388abf98f8b8583dcfb31339c8673a9fea62bd

Links for the lazy.. :)
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zoftdev:
Wait it so long
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] mdalacu:
Does P1000 have the right hw, can it provide 5 volts to usb client or we also need a power injector (usb hub)?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Mjoelnir77:
It really works? That would be superb news! :D Thank you very much for investing your time in it. Can`t wait to see it in a kernel on my tab.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Yes. It works for me on a Sprint SPH-P100, but I bet it will work on all 7" tabs (the USB hw seems the same). I look forward to some other dev trying it out and letting me know how it works for them. From looking at the samsung sample code, I bet it will work on most samsung chipset based devices (certainly the S5PC100 based ones).

*** Can some mod move this thread to the Galaxy Tab Development forum and bless me for posting there? ***
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
I bet it will also need power for the 5V USB. In the samsung code they have bits that look like it is turning on the right LDO to have power, but nothing comes out on my SPH-P100. Either the sw init needs more work, or they didn't stuff some part when they built up the units.

[ Ugh - I can only reply once every 5 mins because I don't have enough posts ]
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Blittz:
Does that mean this hasn't actually been tested on a SGT yet?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
I've tested it on a few Sprint 7" SGT's here, but it would be great for another dev to try it in their kernel.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] debernardis:
It is a great thing, you deserve so many thanks!... :)

Now what I need is a kernel with usb host and swap enabled.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] odysseus84:
Can somebody explain why it is needed? What is it good for?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] agc93:
It allows the Tab to act as the controller for USB devices, rather than the other way around. In practice, it means that you can use things like usb sticks, keyboards, mice and the like which usually require a computer (the host) with the Tab.

Anyone more knowledgeable, feel free to correct me.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zoftdev:
for months I wait this,

SGS also waiting it too, Shall you post in their forum?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Sure. And since I haven't seen a mod move this to the right forum yet, I hope ya'll don't mind if I bump up my post count to 10 by replying to this thread. After I have ten posts I can post in their forum.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
bumping my post count :p
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
bumping my post count :cool:
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] gorelshv:
This is great!! ;)
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Mjoelnir77:
lol, don`t get banned over this - it is for a good cause, but one never knows if the Mods that see this see it the same way
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Hmm - I just want to be able to discuss this in the right forum. I hope I don't get banned, but I don't really care to much - I made these fixes because I needed host mode for my application. I'm almost there - just need one more post :D
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
yay - post #10. Future discussion on the development of these patches should probably take place in the dev forum. Once some dev packages it into a standard ROM it will be more generally useful.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] stonedraider:
omg i waited so long for this. i thought the hardware is not usb-host capable?!?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
The hardware is fine (except for possibly not providing 5V power). The main problem is that the original driver code provided by Samsung was super buggy. There is no way it would work if someone just tried turning on the config flag in the kernel. I spent a bit of time fixing most (all?) of the bugs and it now seems to work well for the devices I've tried.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zeb crs:
This is really great news.If the hardware doesn't support 5volts out I'll make a hw patch for it so it can use the camera kit from the 10.1.

I have the kit here and I also have the breakout board for the connector.

I will use it with a powered hub in my car so I can access my 500 gb 's of music there.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] rodak69:
Wondering if this could be implemented in Galaxy S... Anyone?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
I bet it would work on a Galaxy S but I have not tried it. The S uses the same S5PC110 processor as the SGT. The USB driver is shared.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] rodak69:
wow! that's great! now we need someone who would port it over.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Geletis:
Is the 5V line simply not connected or is it something that can be activated in the driver?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] dark_angelfighter17:
other devices?

would it be possible to get usb support for other devices like HTC phones?

particually the HTC Inspire?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
I don't know. However, these fixes are only relevant for (some?) Samsung devices. For HTC a kernel developer would need to look at the existing driver source and read any datasheets that are appropriate.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
I don't know.

I turned on the LDO that from the code looked like the right one and I didn't see 5V come out of my device. However, it could be some other LDO or perhaps Samsung decided to not stuff that part to save money. I didn't really look too hard because I had an external source of 5V for my application.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Geletis:
Thanks.

It would be amazing if the 5V power could be turned it.

If it provided power, any USB thumb driver or other memory device to be plugged in using the USB adapter Samsung is now shipping for the 10.1 Tab.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
I could possibly answer this question if someone with that USB adapter could take a multimeter and slide it across the 30 pin connector and post which pin number was connected to the pin 1 of the USB connector.

In fact, if someone has such an adapter and was willing to pop it open and map out how they chose to connect the 30 pin connector there is a fair chance I could make the changes so it 'just works' on the other tabs. If someone mails me such a connector I don't mind poking around inside it and then sending it back to them.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Geletis:
I don't have one, but there are a number of people in the Galaxy Tab forums with the adaptor.

Try posting the question in each of these threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1171079&page=6

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=895807&page=3
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Declan79:
brilliant art of worked
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] Technomancer:
Good job. But is that against Froyo (2.6.32.9) kernel?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] rmp5s:
This is AWESOME! One of the best features of Honeycomb imo.

What I wonder though is this: What good is USB host support when the device doesn't have a USB port? Is there some adapter for the proprietary jack or something?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zeb crs:
I will test the power stuff tonight. I have all I need to test.

Can You point me to the LDO registers that is available so I can compare to whats stuffed on the pcb?

Maybe it is just some wrong registers or in worst case we might have to add a small hw patch to get 5volts out.

According to the schematics pin 6 Vout accessory is not connected to anything inside.

There is 2 options then. Just insert a small 5 volt LDO to battery power and leave it on forever as the drain is really low or use the same LDO but connect the on signal to an IO we can control inside somewhere.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] d3vil:
+1 for galaxy s
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] TheGrammarFreak:
What adapter do we need to actually plug something into our Tab?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Yeah. It should be very easy to port the fix to EB28 or a later kernel. The s3c-otg code has been moribund so I suspect a patch would apply very cleanly.

I originally developed these fixes on a newer kernel started by a fellow named Spacemoose. I backpropped them into this near stock kernel because of some non USB problems with that newer kernel.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zeb crs:
we should be able to use the 10.1 usb adapter on this. I have one at home and will try out tonight.

I have just splitted my tab and taken it under the microscope and measured a bit.

Pin 6 v accesory is connected inside. It goes to C533 and to U502. U502 is BGA so I cannot se which pin it goes too.

So it has to be a register to set.

Is it possible to make an app that can write to theese registers without the need to recompile the kernel for each try ??
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Re: pointers to the LDOs

will do - I'll post that tonight

Re: schematic

COOL! Do you have schematics? Can you post them or send them to me? That would make it much easier to find the right LDO.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Yes. I'll make something in the kernel that shows up in /sys or /proc so you can directly futz with LDOs from the shell. I'll also add something like /sys/usb/usbmode so folks can "echo h >xxx" to force host mode or "echo t >xxx" to force target. Thus removing the requirement for funky wiring.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] olinz:
Cant wait to try this out.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Slight improvements checked in

Hi ya'll,

Thanks to some discussion with zeb_crs I think that I am turning on the correct LDO, but it is only 3.3V. Therefore I presume that the "Samsung USB Connector" widget includes a DC-DC converter to step this up to the required 5V. So if you don't have one of those devices you'll need an external source of 5V. If you do have one of those devices and feel comfortable futzing with kernels I'd be curious to hear if with my change it spits out 5V on pin 1 of the USB connector.

Also to facilitate testing I added a kernel sysfs attribute which can be used to force USB host or target mode. This allows trying this change without a special cable to pull down the USB mode detect pin. Instructions for this change are located here: https://github.com/humcycles/galaxy-tab-modified/commit/c2c95642f0a35cad9d0c3dc354fb602a8b86ec30
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zeb crs:
Just ripped the samsung USB connector open. It is only 2 caps and a resistor there:-(

There is space enough in it to add on though !
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] thehandi:
brilliant work, thanked. ability to sync a bluetooth gamepad coupled with the cps2/cps3 emulator could result in mobile 3rd strike play. i hope.
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] zeb crs:
Found a small cheap dcdc on ebay. It even has a usb connector.Just wire this up to a 30 pin and voila !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Step-...ltDomain_0&hash=item415c6d76ec#ht_2293wt_1163
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] punkgeek:
Any chance you could map out a schematic and post it?
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] corodius:
Hey there, Excellent work on this :D

Just one question for curiosities' sake, which pin on the 30-pin will be putting out the 3.3v?

Cheers
[Galaxy Tab  Android Development] koutouyo:
Is it work on samsung vibrant?:confused: if it does that should be agreat news for me :p