yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] EddyOS:
If you're already using a ROM based on 1.45.401.2 and have the latest radio then you have the correct RIL already
[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
You're out of your mind if you think sgs is better. I've used both and this is much faster. Just try the browser on a loaded website.

Gotta love these trolls.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
Try ROM+Kernel associations until you find something that "fit" your phone well.

I am running Android Revolution HD with Unity v8 kernel, that's the best for me, but for some Unity v8 is very slow.

For others, InsertCoin is faster than unity whatever the kernel.

Others think Stock kernel is smoother and more reliable than custom kernels

etc

etc

etc

What I mean here is that the Sensation is weird in the way people flashing the same rom, same kernel, using the same clockwork, flashing just the same way, experience very different results! I can have 7606 CF bench points with my rom, some will have 1800 with exactly the same :confused:

Really, try again, reboot at least twice after flashing, make your opinion, try anoither kernel, if you don't like, flash another ROM

it's, in my opinion, and for the current situation, impossible to tell what rom or what kernel is the best.

Just one thing is sure for me: Sense is really not optimized, so I always remove it and use Launcher Pro instead (but some where reporting Launcher Pro as slow and other launchers fast, etc, once more it varies a lot!)
[HTC Sensation] xaccers:
Simple, they haven't.

Either 1) you've got a duff phone (most likely) or 2) Vodafone have screwed their Sensations.

Mine on O2 is lovely, but then I've never had a slow phone from O2.

You've changed ROMs and still had issues, which suggests a hardware problem.

Flash it back to stock, take it back to Vodafone and demand a replacement/repair.
[General Questions and Answers] Mightymiky:
Hello,

I am currently working on the creation of an application for mobile devices with Android which should be capable of sending and receiving messages through local means like wifi and bluetooth. After making a research about it I found out that Android doesn't have a native wifi ad hoc functionality and that the only way to achieve that is through rooting your device and patching the wpa_suplicant and some other similiar methods which are not generic for every device.

Synopsis of what I am trying to achieve:

An application for Android that scans for devices nearby and tries to connect to them automatically. If the other device also got this application isntalled then it automatically accepts any connection request it receives and when the connection is established it sends back a message which ensures that it has this app installed so that both can start exchanging messages automatically and the users don't have to allow/deny any of the sending/receiving in real time.

My questions are:

1. Is there any way of sending messages through wifi between 2 android devices without the use of internet?

2. Since Ad Hoc is not supported, is there any alternative?

3. In case the answer to 2 is no , then is it possible to make one of the devices to be an access point so the other can connect to it and vice versa.

4. As for bluetooth, is it possible to skip or automate the allow/deny pop up of an incoming connection and the pairing procedure?

I ll be glad if you could give me an answer to those and/or any suggestions.

Thanks in advance,

Mike
[General Questions and Answers] Mightymiky:
bringing up my post
[HTC Sensation] Kid Poker:
I just got my hands on a Griffin AC Wall Charger (USB) for the iPad and iPhones/iPods. It outputs 2.1 amps. Would it be harmful to use the charging block on my HTC Sensation, since the charger that came with it is at 1 amp?
[HTC Sensation] {ParanoiA}:
And the survey says....YES

Sent From My Pocket
[HTC Sensation] pms:
Why do you say that? Why would it damage anything?
[HTC Sensation] brndklng:
From what i've learned, more ampere is okay, less is harmful.

If the charger produces more ampere than needed, the device

will still just consume the 1A it's supposed to get from the charger.

If the charger produces less ampere than needed, the charger

tries constantly to supply the device with 1A which it can not reach,

resulting in overheating and maybe destroying the charger

(and thus maybe damaging the device).

Are both 5V? I guess more than this could be harmful.

It's been a few days since i had this in school, so i can not guarantee for correctness,

maybe some of the smarter guys/girls here could acknowledge/deny my statements just to be sure.
[HTC Sensation] xaccers:
You are correct.

The phone (which actually contains the charger) will pull as much current as it needs from the power supply (the thing we plug into the wall and incorrectly call a charger).

Part of the charging circuit should stop the phone drawing more current than the PSU can supply and causing damage.

Voltage is the important one that must be 5v DC.

Idealy you need a PSU that can provide more current than the device can possibly drain, that way it will relieve the load on the battery and the excess current can then go towards charging the battery.
[HTC Sensation] Kid Poker:
I would figure it would draw too much and damage it. I had one of those iGo chargers and it was only 0.75 amps and it made noise so I stopped using it altogether. The charger's I'm getting are rated at 2.1amps and have a DC current of 5V so from what I read above it should be alright since the phone limits the charger to 1amp.
[HTC Sensation] xaccers:
The mA (or A) rating on the PSU is the maximum it can provide, not the amount it will actually pull.

The amount it pulls is down to the resistance of the device.

Think of your car's alternator, mine provides 95A.

My headlight bulbs are 55W, so at 14V they each draw only about 4A of that 95A.

Using the formula V=IR, rearranged to R=V/I we get 14/4=3.5 Ohms, so the resistance of each bulb is 3.5 Ohms.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
+1

Good to see there are a few people here who know, and can apply, Ohm's Law.

Also, I have the Griffin charger that looks like a small cube. It works fine.

The noise you hear is from the PSU circuit in the supply (SMPS = switch mode power supply). It takes your house voltage/frequency and converts it to a high frequency/low voltage DC for your phone's charging circuit to use. Thats the noise, and it is normal, although bothersome!

Matt
[HTC Sensation] xaccers:
I fear we may be a dying breed Matt :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salmanghiyas:
Hello All,

just a silly question in my mind .. why do SGS GT-i9000 has 2GB dedicated ROM ?

i mean whats the purpose or function of it ? can any1 please explain and eleborate in detail ?

all the other phones have storage , RAM and CPU .. only this phone has 2GB ROM which i didnt see in any other phone why?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiderrr:
It has been reserved to install game and apps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obsidian-step:
can we reduce this size. 1gb to rom & 15gb to sdcard.

Users with Ideos X5 do it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obsidian-step:
Anyone know linux commands, may you see script below.

fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0

d

1

d

2

n

5

1708032

n

1708033

1953792

t

2

b

w

mke2fs "-F", "-j", "-b4096", "-m0", "/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 (what is -j flag ?)

mkfs.vfat "-v", "-n", "SDCard, "/dev/block/mmcblk0p1"

is it work?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obsidian-step:
Thats my partition table.

Moderator pls dnt merge posts I need get access to devs topic. Thank you.

~ # df

df

Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on

tmpfs 169004 32 168972 0% /dev

/dev/block/mtdblock3 81920 2388 79532 3% /cache

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1935192 291380 1643812 15% /data

/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 13660864 11975456 1685408 88% /sdcard

/dev/block/mtdblock2 192000 131920 60080 69% /system

~ # fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 16.0 GB, 16005464064 bytes

1 heads, 16 sectors/track, 1953792 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 16 * 512 = 8192 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 5 1708032 13664224 c Win95 FAT32 (LB

A)

Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1708033 1953792 1966080 c Win95 FAT32 (LB

A)

Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary

~ # fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p1: 13.9 GB, 13992165376 bytes

4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 427007 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

~ # fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p2: 2013 MB, 2013265920 bytes

4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 61440 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 doesn't contain a valid partition table

~ #

I try create custom partition size for my phone i897

With Simplistian help I can get partition Info of my phone

#df

Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on

tmpfs 169004 32 168972 0% /dev

/dev/block/mtdblock3 81920 2388 79532 3% /cache

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1935192 291380 1643812 15% /data

/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 13660864 11975456 1685408 88% /sdcard

/dev/block/mtdblock2 192000 131920 60080 69% /system

~ # fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 16.0 GB, 16005464064 bytes

1 heads, 16 sectors/track, 1953792 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 16 * 512 = 8192 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 5 1708032 13664224 c Win95 FAT32 (LB

A)

Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1708033 1953792 1966080 c Win95 FAT32 (LB

A)

Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary

~ # fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p1: 13.9 GB, 13992165376 bytes

4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 427007 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

~ # fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p2: 2013 MB, 2013265920 bytes

4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 61440 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salmanghiyas:
but why ? whats the cause behind it ?

phones that dont have dedicated and assigned ROMs can also have games and apps ... for e.g. SGS 2 doesnt has dedicated ROM it only has 1GB RAM and Dual core 1.2Ghz cpu but we still install apps and games into it .. which means they are stored directly to SD card or Internal memory of phone ..

but I havent gone through any solid answer from anyone that why 2GB dedicated ROM given to SGS GT i9000 ?

does that mean we can only install apps games etc upto 2GB volume on our SGS i9000 ? not more then that ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiderrr:
Yeah we can install games and apps only upto 2GB.But thats more than sufficient.Dont u think so?Even one day if u run out of space u can install as many apps as u wish on extranal SD card.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salmanghiyas:
so that means other androids like SGS 2 etc , apps and games are installed directly into phone's internal storage ( internal SD card ? ) plus with that we can choose the option to install apps and games to external storage ( external sd card ) as well ?

1 more question .. does it really makes any difference to install apps or games into phones internal ROM or external sd card ?

what i mean is does this makes any impact on performance or on anything ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiderrr:
Hardly any noticible difference on performance..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salmanghiyas:
TQVM androiderrr
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geryatrix:
When the SGS was first released, we didn't have the possibility of loading apps to SD card, this only came with the later releases of Android.

The phone being released with 2GB was one of the things that made it the best phone at that time.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djice000:
No offence dude but that it a stupid question lol :p 2gb rom means that the device has allocated 2gb to install android + apps etc
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yani2000:
Yeah, that's a really silly question, regarding you know the difference between the internal and external storage. :)

Now for your answer:

It's simple... HTC Desire users were nagging about the App2SD feature from the start of its release and Samsung tried to fix this for all of his SGS early adopters that were on v2.1 Eclair with a giant ROM size for all of your app needs. Remember, Eclair didn't had App2SD feature yet, only with v2.2 Froyo enabled this feature is out-of-the-box, and even with Froyo, I saw HTC users on the Android Market posting something like this: "No App2SD, no install. I have HTC Desire." for some apps/games.

I currently have around 100 apps/games installed and I'm using half of my ROM size (1GB) (I have all of my data on internal storage). I also have an Advent Vega clone with 150MB free internal storage and App2SD function is really helpfull. And remember you can't put all data on SD, some data always stays on internal storage. Background processes and widgets also can't be moved to SD!

And you could also better form your title, from "Question ?" to something more appropriate like "Why does SGS have 2GB ROM and other phones don't?"

I hope the answer was helpfull! ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salmanghiyas:
TQVM Yani :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djice000:
What do you mean, what is the cause?? No space to install rom means no rom.....simples
[TouchPad General] chaywa:
Confirmed by a Dixons PR Guy on Twitter.

Can't link but search for MarkWebb_Dixons for confirmation.

Dixons.co.uk sale will be tonight at a unconfirmed time.

Also confirmed to be in Currys and PC World stores tomorrow morning, albeit very limited stock supposedly.
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Thanks dude :)
[TouchPad General] Touranaga:
Currys ain't loading

Or is just me?
[TouchPad General] SamWhite:
Awesome, thanks for letting us know! :D

Update:

The company has since confirmed they will go on sale at all three stores online from 6pm, and in store tomorrow morning.

The 16GB version will be £89, down from £349, while the 32GB version will be £115, down from £429. He stressed there would be "limited stock".

Webb also added the company would be offering refunds to those who paid the full price.

Source
[TouchPad General] SamWhite:
Any idea if other retailers (Amazon UK, Ebuyer, etc.) will follow suit?
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Nope, currys.co.uk is loading for me.

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/currys.co.uk

Refreshing the dixons.co.uk TouchPad page every minute or two now :D

If it runs Android soon...
[TouchPad General] paul_crompton:
I think they have sold out before even lowering the price as people buy at full price in order to get the refund.

Bummer

Paul
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
If that's happened...noooooo!
[TouchPad General] SamWhite:
The product pages keep going up/down, not too sure why though.

As of writing the 16GB page is up - 32GB one says unavailable.
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
would love one - not sure if I am allowed to spend £90 though
[TouchPad General] Gaz25:
Dixons - Sorry, this product is currently not available.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[TouchPad General] SamWhite:
It's back, now. They keep taking it on/off for some reason.
[TouchPad General] Gaz25:
Bloody tease!
[TouchPad General] Touranaga:
Patience my young padawans.
[TouchPad General] awesome-member:
i have amazon,official hp,dixons,pc world/curries ,bestbuy,expansys and twitter tabs open and refreshing every 30 sec.......:rolleyes: have i missed any?:p i will likely be getting both16 and 32 versions any one else getting both the versions?
[TouchPad General] Touranaga:
at dixons 32GB one is 115 now!
[TouchPad General] brrip:
cant seem to get one though. the site is unusably laggy, and if the product page actually loads, it says unavailable. anyone got one so far?
[TouchPad General] paul_crompton:
No all seems a bit iffy to me...

Paul
[TouchPad General] letom:
Would it be better to go in store or buy online? I'm thinking buy in store because online can be dodgy at times.
[TouchPad General] Gaz25:
this is proper laggy, I'm trying to pay for one.#

Update: god dam it!!! got to the address screen which then took me back to the main screen with an empty basket!!!
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
Goddamn signed up to pcworld now for nothing, got to choose card then bam out of stock

All stores near me are out of stock too

My hopes are on play reducing their prices
[TouchPad General] deanwray:
well I have an order with cpw for 4, called them an because of the server going down they cant confirm the order (although I got confirmation), so starting to look again now :)

but if I order from another place and cpw order comes though also :(

How many of you who want them are in driving distance of Buckinghamshire, Milton Keynes, cause may have to shift a few?
[TouchPad General] sc6895:
I'm not far, be happy to take one off your hands :)
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
I ordered mine from play.com now @ £350 - called them last night and they said they knew about the price drop and 'were working on it' - so put my order in - emailed them and said if it doesnt drop i'll cancel and go elsewhere :P

see what happens
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
Im not too far, Leicester! so if i dont get anything i may have to speak to you :p

On a side note: just rang play and they said that they are waiting on the supplier to let them know when to drop the prices :confused:
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
lol - long phonecall if they knew about it last night! :)

ronilzizou - you arent far away from me then!
[TouchPad General] digger1985:
a

Same here. Gutted
[TouchPad General] DJ_Evil:
Staples has price drop and some people have had success in my work, might wanna try it dudes! :)

http://www.staples.co.uk/technology-promotions/tablets/touchpad-32gb-wifi
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
Sweet, buy a few touchpads and if you get them ill come get one of you, since im almost broke and can only afford one i cant do the same.... ;)
[TouchPad General] AdamLC:
I ordered one from Amazon and one from Currys. Hoping one will work, if both do Ill have one up for grabs in Leicester :)
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
dabs.com have them apparently but their site is just undergoing stresstest from hp touchpad wanters...
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
nice! let me know how it goes

Staples site is down now
[TouchPad General] AdamLC:
Will do!

Its mad how many sites people are taking down lol!
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
think they better make sure their servers can cope with the load to be honest...

to think this is a massively geeky product - imagine if they were selling justin beeiber tickets or something - probably millions of screaming kids would be hammering their site - not just a few thousand geeks :P
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
LOL!!!!!

Dabs is at full price too
[TouchPad General] deanwray:
BT Shop, have lots and lots, still full price

...or BT may have just dropped it cause I cant get on now lol
[TouchPad General] proudy99:
BT shop is dabs, your best bet is insights as they are a HP partner in the UK
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
probably put in basket and the price will drop like they di with comet last night?
[TouchPad General] Gaz25:
Just got one from Dabs. Had 2 windows open, 1 with product details and 1 in the checkout. Refreshed window 1 and noticed it was slow so I thought sod it, went to window 2 and went through placing the order. Price was reduced!!!!

Only problem is I used wrong payment details (billing address) so I rang them up and he said it should be fine but if not I will get an email. Also said the item is reserved in stock even if there is an issue with payment.
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
aww man, still nothing for me, and the website doesnt even load up!
[TouchPad General] brilldoctor:
Have comet despatched anyones
[TouchPad General] AdamLC:
What about Curry's? Its still in the My Account section but not really heard anything :/
[TouchPad General] AdamLC:
Direct link to dabs for 32GB at reduced price:

http://www.dabs.com/products/hp-tou...era-wi-fi--bluetooth-hp-gloss-black-7K7F.html

and 16gb:

http://www.dabs.com/products/hp-touchpad-tablet-webos-3-0-16gb-9-7--ips--1024-x-768--front-camera-wi-fi--bluetooth-hp-gloss-black-7K7D.html
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Went to Currys Digital, CPW, and Argos. All sold out :(

I reckon play.com are biding their time. They have to reduce stock price at some point :)

So shops that haven't reduced pricing yet

Argos (online)

play.com

Amazon (I think...?)

And Dabs is taking ages and the checkout is down for 'essential maintenance'.
[TouchPad General] brrip:
We are sorry but the secure area of the dabs.com website is currently offline for important maintenance. You may continue browsing the website and adding products to your basket but we cannot currently process your order. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience that this may cause you and rest assured we will be back online shortly.

Please bear with us, your patience is greatly appreciated.

The dabs.com team

guess they're done too
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
play.com are probably re-enforcing their website
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Exactly what I got.

If anyone has extra I'll buy it off you :) Please please PM me :D
[TouchPad General] brrip:
yeah same here. i want one!
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Most likely :D
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
Same message for me =/
[TouchPad General] AdamLC:
Mine started working just then but then said:
[TouchPad General] brilldoctor:
And expansys
[TouchPad General] :
Just had a call from comet (ordered on phone last night), they say they are oos at the moment but can deliver on the 5th september.

wont hold much hope till I have it in my hands tbh.
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Their site says they're getting stock in a few days. Wonder if that means they're still getting some? Hmm.
[TouchPad General] baen:
Damn I just want a shop that sends to every country in europe... Well there is play :D
[TouchPad General] brilldoctor:
They did have over 100
[TouchPad General] brilldoctor:
Oos?
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
how many sites have crashed because of this now?

anyone been keeping score? :P

I am getting timed out trying to access uk Insight at the moment
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Out Of Stock :)
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
That's what I was thinking :(
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
Can get to checkout on Dabs easily now, but signing up is another issue
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Yep, insight seems to be down right now.
[TouchPad General] brilldoctor:
Anyone else heard form comet? I am just getting order being processed for delivery tomorrow
[TouchPad General] Lamner:
https://www.insight.com/search/ppp.web?materialId=FB454UT#ABA not down but i would not order there, since 1h the stock didnt change
[TouchPad General] ronilzizou:
Guys got of the phone with Dabs, lady said that they are out of stock completely. Orders in basket wont go through either =/

Edit: seems the website says that the touchpad is discontinued
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
site here has a list of stock at full price and ones sold out: http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/hp-t...stock-levels-official-thread/1000474?page=319

e.g.

ONLINE:

STAPLES

INSTORE

CPW (NOT MUCH LEFT)

EDIT MISCO SOON

Misco_UK Misco

We'll be making an announcement soon, as we're looking into the HP TouchPad pricing! Thanks for your interest! (Thanks to Calamity James)

COMET DUE 1000 UNITS SOON

~~~~~~~~~

Places sold out

CPW

BESTBUY

CURRYS/PC WORLD/DIXONS

Fnac

Amazon

John lewis (online)

Dabs

BT
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
thats the US site - if you flick to UK it times out
[TouchPad General] Lothaen:
twitter says that expansys prepaymania and misco should have price drops in the next hour...

think misco is already down though
[TouchPad General] redbullcat:
Yep Misco is down.