yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] Gusar321:
Read the definition again, about what the required intent is for the act to qualify as stealing.

As for the other part of your post... I wrote this quite some time ago, here, and repeated it several times already, but one more can't hurt:

And even before that, there were touchscreen phones and PDAs. With resistive screens, and the interfaces geared not so much towards finger-touch as towards the stylus, but still. And the OSes on these things - S60, UIQ (both Symbian based) and PalmOS - had several elements that Apple copied in iOS.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
I'd like to see Apple and Google join forces and kick MS back to the stone age. Apple has nothing on MS for being evil.
[General Topics] aFo3262:
That's because Google and Microsoft are far bigger enemies that Google and Apple. Apple has always occupied a certain niche for their products(high end status symbols and possibly overpriced depending on your opinion) while Google and MS are the everyman's OS. It is quite possible for Microsoft to supplant Google in providing mobile OS's and Apple could remain unaffected. Google's the one with a big target on its back.
[General Topics] Tone_:
They were intent on using something that needed and were also intent on not paying for it - and it's now backfiring in a major way

Thought this discussion had ended?

Your bias is so apparent I am not going to bother following that link, you have to be foolish to believe Android headed in a totally different direction when they saw the iphone.. I am not saying the iphone is better but Google ripped it off and that is also backfiring in a major way.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
Nope, not it. Read the definition again.

You're the one that keeps repeating the same stuff that was already disputed.

I quoted the relevant part.

The problem with this argument is that the iPhone and iOS themselves are total rip-offs. That's what you people refuse to acknowledge. You act as if there was nothing and then *poof* there was iPhone and iOS. But the reality is different. The reality had S60, UIQ, PalmOS, PDAs and the LG Prada, all well before the iPhone launched.
[General Topics] Tone_:
and still disputed android has willfully taken and used another companies works/software and are going to hammered for doing so - if you cannot see how this is stealing then this discussion will go on and on ad nauseam,,

Prada I agree with but Apple copied them and added some, Google originally copied blackberry saw what apple were doing and copied them.. the rest is history well almost..
[General Topics] Gusar321:
It's not about what I see or don't see, it's about the definition. Google didn't have the intent and Oracle isn't suffering the consequence. It's that simple. You can be stubborn and continue to claim stealing, but that won't make it so.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Apple doesn't have anything on MS for protecting patents.

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+...esnt+Infringe+on+Our+Patents/article22874.htm
[General Topics] krale:
Actually, if it was so as you suggest - nothing stops LG, Nokia, etc., to take Apple to the courts. Do not be fooled that all of these companies would do so in a blink - IF (oh that brutal word IF), they had a case.

Who got the idea from whom, is irrelevant. Who COPIED (its a different thing, you should know) is illegal.

This is probably the only place in the world people will continue defending something illegal, as if it is something normal that we should be happy they committed.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
So when Apple does it, it's "taking an idea" and is completely ok. But when someone else does it, it's "copying" and is illegal. Gotcha. And rolling my eyes, of course.

And then *I'm* the one being accused of bias. Hilarious.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: The governments and corporations love people like you. Who take the laws as given, do not question them, do not point out the flaws in them. Just blindly follow them like good little sheep.

Well, then there's some of us who are not content to be mindless sheep. I don't have the power to actually attempt to change the laws, but what I can do is point out the flaws of the system in a discussion. Even though it's an exercise in masochism, because of the RDF. Which produces hilarious gems like the one above.
[General Topics] krale:
And the prison system LOOOOOVES people like you. LOL.
[General Topics] Tone_:
You are arguing semantics and you know you are, google have all but admitted in two different emails that they used/needed to use something that was not theirs, the judge thinks this as well but you will just keep on arguing... I realise you think they can "Do No Evil"

Oracle, or Sun to be more precise did suffer and the consequence was a loss of revenue that should rightly have come from licensing, bet they wish they had took Sun up on it now..
[General Topics] Gusar321:
You failed to show how what Google did is stealing so you resort to that. Well, ok.

Look at a previous post of mine in this thread. You'll see that I directly acknowledged Google will probably receive a heavy fine. So this little projection you have of what I supposedly think... It's false. Completely. This little discussion was never about me not being aware of what Google did or me supposedly trying to deny that Google screwed up. Never. It was all about the notion of "how can you steal IP?".
[General Topics] MartyLK:
This makes me happy. It's one step closer to the ruination of MS I'm wanting to see happen so badly.

http://gizmodo.com/5845383/ibm-is-now-more-valuable-than-microsoft
[General Topics] beduzzaholic:
i can't imagine that
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Microsoft vs. the world

More bad behavior on MS's part:

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Appears+to+Have+Blacklisted+Oxford+University/article22895.htm
[General Topics] Dragoon0309:
Thats kinda horrible...
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Are you kidding me? That would be an issue on the SMTP server on oxford's end. Now you're just looking for things to menstruate about when it comes to Microsoft Marty lk.
[General Topics] galaxys:
The only reason MS has some mobile income is because of Google Android!
[General Topics] MartyLK:
I know. It's sad MS has to leech off of successful companies to stay afloat.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Yes, because Microsoft isn't a successful company. See, we could both be considered trolls but there's 2 key differences. I make intelligent remarks, and you're on the side of the general populace so they'll ignore your stupidity because you're one of them.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
I make no bones about it and don't try to hide my disdain and hate for MS. I hate them, pure and simple. They are a company of imbeciles who can't even buy a win. They can't do anything right and it pisses me off they officially claim a release date for Mango and don't live up to it. And I told people in a post that I would believe it when I see it. I was proven right. Clear and simple. Releasing it for some is not a release. It's a guarantee of pissing people off. It smacks of elitism.

I care not if you think this or that about me. I know my feet are on solid ground. I don't live in a friggin lie or fantasy like you do. Android is light years more useable than WM7 and when an update is set for an Android device, it happens.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Yup, when an update is released to android the nexus and maybe 2 to 3 other devices get it. Otherwise enjoy purchasing a new device every 6 months.

your horse**** claims of a set date more specific than Fall 2011 are just that, there was never any official announcement outside of your little fantasy world and everyone but you has stated that they were wrong 8n saying Microsoft could not properly deliver an update.

Android is hardly usable, if customization is your only concern (and I do mean only) then go android by all means. For usability, there are much better options out there as usability is no concern of androids. They want their users to settle for **** or do it themselves and make a half-ass clone of something that really works for another OS but it never works as well on android because it's so poorly optimized.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
You're going to dare say that Sep. 27, 2011 was not an official release of Mango for AT&T phones?? Who's living in a fantasy now? Search the web, search this forum for all of the threads created proclaiming that fact.

It is your horse**** fanboism that pisses people off about MS. You and your hatred for Android and non-stop ranting about how bad it is does nothing for you nor MS.

Here is your proof:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1273576
[General Topics] husker91:
Microsoft > Android in the desktop OS situation. That's about it... Android > Microsoft in about everything else... Browser, mobile os, search engine, etc.

End of story :)
[General Topics] slight80:
Whatever...Android is better than windows 7 mobile :)
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Of course it was and the update was released in time. I personally had it that day, some others have been receiving it later because it is not a blitz update. Unfortunately given the fact that we aren't releasing for one device makes that much more complex. There are a number of OEM's who have to roll out firmware revisions and as they don't have to do so with any of the poorer OSes they play it safe and roll it out, a roll-out, a statement that pretty much says, hey, this is not going to hit you all at once, a statement that has been used constantly regarding the updates. The update process beats that of android 1000 times over still and if Microsoft ever has a flagship device then it will likely be the only one to really rival the iphone's update process. Your unwarranted hate for wp7 for a year now has been annoying, especially for those few months that you feigned interest. As far as my disdain for android, if you've ever built an android app and dont hate android and their terrible dev environment then something's wrong. The fact that it's reminiscent of windows 95 to me doesn't really give it much more love from my end.

Husker, thanks for adding nothing useful.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Back on topic...I'm loving this:

http://www.dailytech.com/Android+Ma...+RIMs+Microsofts+Cut+in+Half/article22852.htm
[General Topics] krale:
Quite a realistic assessment.

What WP7 lacks at the moment is a flagship hardware device - like the SGS2 or similar. Something like that could propel it forward quite a bit. Microsoft has really done a beautiful thing with WP7 and have closed some of the huge mistakes of Android (marketplace, fragmentation...).
[General Topics] sidnoit22:
Ofcourse Android is better than Windows Phones.. ;)
[General Topics] sygeek:
Guys, do note that Android, like every large software product on the planet, infringes numerous Microsoft patents. Android has millions of lines of code and modifying it in compliance with Microsoft's patents is impossible, so a patent fee of $5-$10 (for each android hanset sold) is much more sensible.
[General Topics] KryPTiCk0d3:
Hardly usable? did you eat lead based paint chips as a child? So it seems that you add nothing useful in 87% of your posts, the thanks that you have received are more than likely the last post you made when you finally STFU.
[General Topics] Dirk:
I'd like to know exactly what those Patents are. If it's something like, 'Using a touch sensitive screen as an input device..', i'm gonna spit!
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Tell us all, how do you feel about Apple?
[General Topics] kazimierz91:
Every fanboy is comical, even pitiful.
[General Topics] tamasabian:
Apple conference tomorrow. The Iphone whoghivesa**** will be announced.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Wow! Bold words for Google regarding MS's patents. Calls MS a "sore loser"...lol

http://www.dailytech.com/Google+Microsofts+a+Sore+Loser+When+it+Comes+to+Patents/article23204.htm
[General Topics] slapshot30:
Where you at, z33?

Sent from my Samsung Infuse
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Ballsy of them to call out Microsoft without reason. Stupid, but ballsy.
[General Topics] slapshot30:
The article insinuates Microsoft struck first... or did you consider that part "biased"?

"companies like Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) who hope to force Google and its partners into lucrative licensing contracts"

Sent from my Samsung Infuse
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Motorola's only patent that's of any concern is the cellphone technology one which would be laughed out of court, otherwise they'll just start calling them pocket pcs or something again. They asked for licensing just to get the OEMs started on their OS. Honestly, I don't know why they don't just invest wholly in Nokia and knock google out of the loop. Between apple and msoft they very well could. After that the OEMs would have to go somewhere. Thusfar, apple has been the real villain. The fact that they called out Microsoft was just foolish.
[General Topics] herzzreh:
Ownage? More like a first grader's reply...

---------- Post added at 03:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 AM ----------

It all comes down to marketing. Look at Apple and to some extent Sammy/HTC... In Apple's case, they could slap their logo on a piece of crap (literally), call it iTurd and it still would sell. The Android makers convinced public that higher specced = better, which doesn't mean crap if OS isn't optimized. Google simply took bunch of bits from Meego's predecessor and... Marketed it.

In the meantime, MS and Nokia sat being completely complacent...
[General Topics] herzzreh:
Usability? It's actually pretty usable. Did you mean functionality?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BMXJeff:
Hi Guys,

Firstly let me make it clear, I am no dev, just a 'ROM dabbler' if you will. I have minor programming experience but a good understanding of what goes into custom ROM development and more than appreciate the efforts by devs that allow me to demonstrate why my HD2 is (in the words of Mr Sheen) BI-WINNING.

I am using HyperDroid-CM7-v2.0.1-GregariousGreyhound ROM and love it, apart from the GPS issue. I rarely use GPS but knowing my phone isn't working perfectly like it did with Froyo, WM6.5 and WP7 (well almost) gets to me.

1.) In a nutshell... Why is Cyanogen7 released with no working GPS when people seemingly have fixes for it and previous versions of Cyanogen had GPS?

2.) cyanogenmod.com is so clean and official like I feel it should be the most stable Gingerbread ROM available but this GPS issue has put doubts in my head. Are the ROM releases with GPS fixes one step ahead?

Please unleash your knowledge and opinions on me.....

Cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] flame10:
Unleash your mouse on this link
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] A.J:
like flame10 said GPS Libraries http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1100114&page=41
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BMXJeff:
yeah but...

Thanks for the link guys, I now have GPS working perfectly! :)

My question still stands though. Why do good ROMS like Cyanogen7 not get shipped with the GPS fix?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] A.J:
hahaha i dont know, gps working fine with me some times slow, but still working ... we hope they make the perfect rom some day haha
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisrj28:
It's not a CM7 issue, it's the lack of agps support that was the problem. Tytung GPS Libraries obviously correct that issue and there you have working GPS
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BMXJeff:
Ha, naa if they make the perfect ROM it would render this forum useless and we'd have nothing to tweak the hell out of!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BMXJeff:
Ok, bare with me.... so the GPS libs are part of the radio and not the rom so we are talking about modding the radio. Is that correct?
[Thunderbolt General] ercDROID:
Is it must me or did anyone else try the speedtest on speakeasy.net and have ridiculous #'s today? Usually on the servers that I use most often I will see about 15-20 download and 2-2.5 upload. Today I was seeing mid to upper 20's consistently on download and 3-3.5 on upload. One server showed download of 38 with an upload of 4. That is way too high. Something seems off.
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
No. That's not way off. That's more like reality, not those low numbers you're used to.
[Thunderbolt General] ercDROID:
Damn thats quick! I'm on gingeritis 3D with the newest radios. Maybe that is the reason. I'd be very happy if it stayed like that. I'm just outside of Pittsburgh. Maybe its because I have a better signal at my work. I have all bars showing at work and at home I only have 2 bars showing most of the time. I was actually shocked when the #'s jumped up like that.
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
I've seen mine bench over 44Mbits before. Up in the 30's is pretty common, no matter what speed tests might say. If you download a nice healthy file like a ROM and you see how long it actually takes to download, the speeds SpeakEasy and Speedtest can't be right. You're never going to download 100Mbytes a minute at 10 or 12 Mbit. It's gotta be 2 or 3 times that fast.
[Thunderbolt General] milan03:
All normal:

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[Milestone XT720 General] archer88:
Ok, here's the problem.... I am flashing the rom of "hellmonger rc2" at the middle of flashing my suddenly got battery empty.....after that i charged it for a hour and i notice that only the buttons has light....there's nothing in the screen even i pressed the lock button....i removed the battery....then while pressing "power button + volume up" nothing come's up.....i also tried the bootloader option....its also not working....i tried my best!

Please understand this......sorry for my bad english :(
[Milestone XT720 General] eSu.Matix:
Buy one of this:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/univer...r-moto-droid-milestone-us-plug-100-240v-43097

I had same problem with battery. After going below 5% it got into something like "charge loop", so I asked my friend to lend me his universal charger and then I bought the one I linked you, just in any case if that happen again.
[Milestone XT720 General] hellmonger:
try just leaving the phone in the wall charger, should be good enoght to load the bootloader after one hour.
[Milestone XT720 General] Mioze7Ae:
When the phone goes full-retard mode*, it charges and then auto-boots and drains faster than it charges. It's the damnedest thing when it happens. You can't keep it from booting when it's decided it wants to so you have to sit there and yank the battery every time it starts trying to boot.

*Motorola has a patent pending on full-retard mode. Google needs it to fend off Apple.
[Milestone XT720 General] hellmonger:
LOL OMFG thats a good one man
[Milestone XT720 General] mrmako777:
um, youd prolly be better off just charging it up, booting into bootloader and reflashing the sbf appropriate for you
[Milestone XT720 General] archer88:
I already did that....its just showing a kid peeing on the motorola logo then bootloop again...
[Milestone XT720 General] TyrionWarMage:
Had s similar problem (blackscreen while usage, then stuck on bootloop even after flashing stock SFBs) .. i fixed it by doing .. nothing. Just leaving the battery out of the phone a few days (one night was not enough!)
[Milestone XT720 General] archer88:
Ok! I got into the bootloader! But it said "battery low cannot program' but i charged almost 8 hours! With the buttons with light everytime i plug in the wall charger!
[Milestone XT720 General] TyrionWarMage:
u have really activated the retard mode*, meaning the phone will boot up while charging and the bootloop is sucking the battery dry.

2 Solutions: Pull the battery, everytime the phone boots. I did that for 1-2 hours and it was not enough ....

2nd solution: buy an external battery charger
[Milestone XT720 General] Woody:
If you can get it to the point of Calvin Pissing and then boot loop, then the problem could be just that you need to Wipe Dalvik and cache partions and reset.

But I see now the problem is that you don't have enough juice. Try turning the phone off completely and then pull battery for a 15 mins or so. Then put battery in and plug in but do not turn it on. A battery icon will appear with charge amount. See it if goes up or down after about an hour. Think that if you can get it to 30-40% it should be enough to boot up and then wipe.

50% is the usual base amount for sbf flashing though, so might want to wait for that. If you haven't already flashed the SBF and have a working ROM in there already, stay on it and try the above. Would hate for you to wipe everything, including OR and Root, if it is only a charge issue and not the ROM itself. Check cords and plugs too.
[Milestone XT720 General] archer88:
thanks mate!! but im here in SAUDI ARABIA i have different card :((
[Milestone XT720 General] Mioze7Ae:
I've never had to resort to this yet, but:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=892026

This phone is just really, really, unbelievably stupid sometimes. If it thinks it's supposed to boot with minimal power, the only way to stop it is to do a proper shutdown (requires you boot successfully first or get into adb and run "reboot -p") or yank and replace the battery--that usually gives you about 15min before it will try to boot again. I used to just constantly wait and yank the battery whenever it started to boot. I got tired of that and got a second battery and wall charger pretty cheap online ($5 total, genuine Motorola). The bottom four leds on with a black screen is a tell-tale sign of full-retard mode.
[Milestone XT720 General] archer88:
are there any solutions? i cant do this myself ..... but thanks man for your help!:D
[Milestone XT720 General] B_e_n:
I did this once

It work fine

You just connect 2 of the 4 wire in an usb cable (you have to sacrifice a cable)

I gonna search a little more you have better pics with a droid i think

but you have to remove the battery. i don t know if you have too but it s less dangerous (the battery can t explode) and it s much more easy to connect the wires
[Milestone XT720 General] B_e_n:
I did this:

You just connect the red to the + and the black to the - You do your Macgiver so that don t move (i use scotchtape but you can see he is using wire...)

Really easy (more than it s look like)

I just don t touch the phone during the whole flash progress

But i read that you can charge the battery directly by connecting the wire on it (the same red + black -) you charge it during 30minutes and you have enough to flash

You can see it in the pic in the bottom left

But I don t test this trick i recommend to use the first one...
[Milestone XT720 General] B_e_n:
And do worry it can be scarry but you can make it (Ok really really scarry but it would be fine...)

I did it with out a problem and i never do any electronic stuff or anything like this

Just take your time to stick the wire and let it like this don t try to return it (anyway you will see in rsdlite if it boot or not)
[Milestone XT720 General] archer88:
i did it man! i did it! thank you very much! you are an expert! i followed your instructions and it worked! thank you very much!
[Milestone XT720 General] B_e_n:
Happy to help !

And how do you do??? My method or the charging battery method?

And what do you use to stick the wire scotchtape or something else?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender5:
Hello,

I just installed AR 5.2.5 and I'm trying to improve my battery drain. I followed this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=937080 guide and used "Spare Parts". But this app crashes when i hit "battery history". Anyone knows an alternative to this app? It should show me which app uses how match power (preferably in mA).

Sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohit1234:
If you want to see the amount of mA being used, then use Current widget from the market. Its free.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender5:
But CurrentWidget doesn't show me the usage of mA oder battery per app...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohit1234:
If I'm not mistaken, i dont think there is any app which will give the amount of mA being used by each app. Only the total mA being used can be found out..