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[HTC Sensation] :
whats the difference between the tmo and euro ota? is it the radio?
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
And all of tmobile's crapware
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
That can't be fully answered till the T-Mobile US update is released, examined and compared.

On the surface, both are supposed to fix bugs, but there's no telling all that may be different between the 2 till closer examination.
[HTC Sensation] Romanbb:
Stop that logic, we don't use it at XDA.
[HTC Sensation] Sketchy McSketch:
I've never understood why carriers put these rarely-used/never touched apps onto phones. Is it for marketing purposes? Do they honestly think we actually use them? Are they just preinstalling these just to torment us for ****s n' giggles? I've only used "My Account" and "My Device" to check up on things once in a while.

On a more relevant note: finally! I've been waiting for this update for a while. Hopefully, the promise of "improved battery life" will be fulfilled.
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
FUNNY!the issue is 2 out of 10 people use the 'crapware' like it, ant tell them thanks!, then theres 2 more that buy the premium version of whatever crapware app they have and TMO makes money off it.

MONEY! thats why they put the stuff there
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
i forget the key combo to force check in, what is it again?

*#*#XXXXXXXXXXX*#*#?

fyi some other short coded are

#686# shows your phone number

*#06# shows imei

*#*#4636#*#* is data info (testing)
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Okay, so for those of us that are already S-OFF, we will need to wait for someone to "tailor" the update for us? I couldnt imagine it being a good idea to accept this OTA. Any way to make sure we dont get it OTA? I remember getting one for my old mytouch3g early in the AM and didnt even know what I was accepting.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] kevinniven:
plz post

If you do get it, go ahead and download it and post it.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Haha, might that result in a bricked phone if I am already S-OFF and perm rooted?

If not, then Ill make sure to do that.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] Jimmah555:
*#*#checkin#*#*

I'm being serious. Not making a joke :-)
[HTC Sensation] teshxx:
you mean *#*#4636#*#*
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
AINT THAT THE TRUTH!

Anywayz I'm waiting patiently as it hasn't hit my sensation yet. I wanna crack that image right open and start inspecting whats under the hood.

The To-Do-List

1. Dump RIL Files

2. Radio Comparison to HTC European 2.3.4 OTA Upd.

3. Check to see if new root method works

4. Check S-ON/OFF status. Check version of hboot.

5. Check what else T-Mo has hiding under the hood
[HTC Sensation] :
how would you post the ota on here?
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
*#*#2432546#*#* thanks
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
no *#*#checkin#*#*
[HTC Sensation] ohiosux:
WiFi Calling is totally jacked, too. After I use it and switch to another access point, I have to reboot the phone to get it working again. Worst "upgrade" evah!
[HTC Sensation] jackmonter5:
OTA bug

annoying home button screenshot bug, randomly it takes screenshots when you try to wake up rosie/ push the home soft key. only way to revive it is by pushing power button then gets locked but reverts back to normal.
[HTC Sensation] Djmix82:
After getting the notification and installing it, where does it download to? How do you delete after installing?
[HTC Sensation] ajwho:
This update is terrible. It doesn't manage memory as well. The launcher keeps having to restart. It is annoying hitting the home button out of the browser, only to have to wait a few seconds for the launcher to restart.

HTC Sense Launcher and Launcher Pro both have this problem.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
For most people, the update was good. For some of you, it was not so good. Instead of coming here and griping about it, first remember the cardinal rule...FACTORY DATA RESET!

Try to reset the phone, and I am not talking power off and then on again...Sometimes a DL and install doesnt go error free. You need to redo it. This is true for the custom ROMs here and is certainly true for the stock ROM.

If you have re-installed the ROM and it still is BS, then come here and complain. Its annoying to see people asking for help by "griping for it".

The fact that lots of people report good things about the update ought to clue you in that your case is isolated and you signal you to put on your thinking cap.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] someonewhy:
the best update i have ever seen.
[HTC Sensation] ajwho:
Did the data reset first thing. Also, I never asked for help. It's just a poor update for me.
[HTC Sensation] HigherSensation:
I live in new york i haven't received the update yet...
[HTC Sensation] Bernardos70:
I know the general rule is that the most vocal people are the ones who didn't like the update, so I'll chime in because I feel like I should: this update was great. For me, Sense 3.0 is smoother, there is more free memory more of the time, and it didn't break anything for me.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
That's not a general symptom of this update. It's something specific to your phone.
[HTC Sensation] TooYellow:
going back to stock recovery

Sensation 4G users: I wanted to add my reply to another post about returning to stock recovery to get the OTA installed but XDA wouldnt let me since I'm a new member:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1228648&page=1

This was the closest forum to it so here goes:

The problem for a lot of people seems to be that the OTA wont install unless you have the stock recovery.

My config was:

HBOOT 1.17 S-OFF

CWM

CID unchanged

permaroot via superuser

The guide in the above mentioned post recommended extracting the the recovery_signed.img from the HTC RUU (see post for details). The problem I was having was that I would get this message from adb when trying to blast it to my phone:

c:\adb>fastboot flash recovery recovery_signed.img
sending 'recovery' (5332 KB)... OKAY [ 1.614s]
writing 'recovery'... FAILED (remote: not allowed)
finished. total time: 1.636s

What I did instead was grabbed the PG58IMG.zip file for the CWM install and replaced recovery.img(CWM) in the zip with the recovery_signed.img(HTC). Keep android-info.txt that is in the zip.

I then copied that to the root and manually installed it but holding volume down+power and letting it prompt me to update.

Once that was done the OTA installed no problem. HBOOT was updated to 1.18 S-OFF. There is a big banner that says ****Locked****. I ran revolutionary one more time and the banner changed to *Revolutionary*, back to HBOOT 1.17 S-OFF.

You do lose root so you'll need to reinstall CWM and superuser.

(details on that and other useful stuff here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300)

I hope this helps!
[HTC Sensation] LiLbear:
You know how under Display in Options you can select the Timeout for when the screen turns off, pretty much like any phone in this world. Well that option has always been on 45sec, never changed it, and it should NOT affect taking a video. It never did before the update, now after the update, while I am filming, the phone will dim and turn off the screen after the 45sec and also stop the filming. I have to constantly touch the screen of the phone so that the screen/phone won't go into stand-by, as if I am not using it...
[HTC Sensation] wallendiaz:
I have a question, I can install this update on my version htc sensation Asian version???
[HTC Sensation] ohiosux:
How about going through the thread and identify which issues you feel are null/void because of having not done a reset prior to issuing a blanket condemnation for the potentially valid issues experienced by people that have likely tried that?

Specifically, which post-OTA issues do you feel are invalid and isolated to only a handful of individuals?
[HTC Sensation] Zehlek:
Same here for Canada
[HTC Sensation] jonathan3579:
Has anyone else gotten this?

E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command

I just got this new Sensation in the mail and I've been trying to manually update this damn thing all day. :mad: I have tried multiple times to no avail.
[HTC Sensation] NYCguy2020:
Same here.i returned everything to stock and flashed back to the official T-mo RUU,and still no update.i did the manual check as well.what gives??!
[HTC Sensation] NYCguy2020:
Could you(or anyone else) post that zip file by any chance.thanks in advance.
[HTC Sensation] Zehlek:
Did you find anything
[HTC Sensation] rorycs:
If you are S-ON you will not be able to apply the update using the recovery menu. S-ON seems to block the sub-menu of Update from SD that actually allows you to choose the update file.

When you are S-OFF, selecting Update from SD opens a sub-menu that is similar to the one in CWM - it allows you to choose the update file from a directory listing and apply it.
[HTC Sensation] lc235:
Future OTA updates for S-off and Root?

Extreme noob here...

I have a T-mobile Sensation 4g on stock 2.3.4. Am I able to safely root it from this xda guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300?

If I am able to root it, I just just want to use apps such as Adfree, Battery Calibration, and Bloat Freezer. Will my rooted Sensation with the these apps installed be able to install future official OTA updates?

Any help will be much appreciated.
[HTC Sensation] lc235:
Umm...so, I would be able to update my rooted Sensation in the future, but I would probably need to reroot? Would I lose any data in the process? And simply rooting my device, how would I back up the unrooted, S-on software?
[HTC Sensation] nikorambo:
I have the same exact problem!! wish i knew why is this happening.
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
So revolutionary works with the new update? ! S off and everything?
[HTC Sensation] jonathan3579:
Awesome. Thanks for the tip. I guess that doesn't leave me much choice now. I just hope things have become a little more stable with the S-OFF tool.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
How many open apps are shown in Task Manager? How much free RAM?
[HTC Sensation] rorycs:
According to HTC your only other choice is to continue to wait. They maintain that the upgrade server will rotate through and if your phone does not have the update it will offer it again. They also say that this won't work if you downloaded the update and saved it to your SD (and lost the upgrade icon -happened to me) because the download sets a flag on the server telling it you already have the file.
[HTC Sensation] jKan87:
I have stock t-mobile sensation without root and without S-OFF.

If I install this update then will I be able to root my sensation?
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Yea afaik you can . I updated mine and then rooted after the update was supported
[HTC Sensation] n0ferz:
So is it recommended/safe to update or not? I am s-off and rooted, I am not in USA and got the update popup earlier today
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
Nope the update will fail in the middle as you no longer have the stock recovery. So don't update!
[HTC Sensation] n0ferz:
Thanks for your fast reply, I got my htc sensation on Friday and used the guides here to s-off, root and get it unlocked :)
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
You can always flash back the stock recovery and then the update won't fail, or use a custom ROM. There are a bunch of great ones to choose from. Just remember if you officially update you will need to re-root, after flashing back your custom recovery, once you have completed the ota update.
[HTC Sensation] Phateless:
Wrong. As long as you have stock recovery and haven't deleted any bloat you're fine. I accepted the ota on my sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
Lmao! Can you read English? What did I say? :rolleyes: Some people are in such a hurry to correct people...now you've been schooled instead. WINNING!

My post before you ran your mouth:
[HTC Sensation] Phateless:
He said he was rooted, he didn't say anything about custom recovery.
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
I really don't feel like getting in an argument with you but everyone knows you need a custom recovery to have permanent root!
[HTC Sensation] n0ferz:
I see, well I dont really care to update lol in case it is really necessary???

Also which ROM you recommend? I am looking at something that can overclock my htc to 1.5ghz and its proven to be stable, I also think that the HTC Sense annoys more than what it helps? so maybe I will need a ROM with that removed:p

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
Can't really help you with non-sense roms, as I love sense. There are many roms with sense and "senseless" versions though. I use InsertCoin and love it. Its way better than stock sense imo. Smooth fast and full of extra features. For senseless there is always alpha cm7 and a few buggy miui builds as well.
[HTC Sensation] n0ferz:
Great, thanks for your reply. I will definitely check insertcoin's roms. Maybe I don't really know how to use Sense and thats why I hate it? lol:p
[HTC Sensation] Phateless:
The only reason to update would be the new radio but you can flash that manually. Check out the cm7 alphas, way quicker than sense.
[HTC Sensation] Phateless:
Yes, I forgot that on THIS device you are correct. In general that's not always the case.
[HTC Sensation] Pneumatic:
I am not trying to be elitist or anything but why are people so amped up about this? We have had S-off and custom roms for a while now here on XDA and there are already several roms with Android 2.3.4 (I am on one at this very moment).

Why are people in full-on freak-out mode about this? It has been available here for a while now.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Cuz alot, if not most, are running stock ROM. I am hoping I can use it despite being S-OFF and rooted. I plan to keep stock until CM7 comes out. Will us stock ROM, S-oFF people be able to just accept the OTA as is?

Matt
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
Good Question. I'm not 100% sure about this but this is my trend of thought.

When you go to Settings->About Phone->HTC Updates, it should ask you to download the update. Once the update is downloaded, I should then go back to my home screen, then open ES File Explorer and look for any files with "1.45.531" in their name. If no results then, I'd look for any PG*IMG.zip files either on the phone or the SD Card. If no results then, I'm screwed til a senior mod tells me what to do.

Just my 2 cents
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
I'm the OP. I already have S-OFF yes, so no idea why everyone is talking about S-OFF on this thread.

As for this 2.3.4 update, well I f'ing hate Sense, so for now I'm using stock but rooted with adw.launcher ex. So any update is good for me until CM7 is available. F all other ROMS :)
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
for lots of TMO users, the custom rome don't work as they should!. like I still want my Phone CallerID feature that I pay $4 to work again .... then we can get the working official TMO crap we need for other features to operate properly
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
Install a Log Viewer like aLogCat https://market.android.com/details?id=org.jtb.alogcat

When u get the update, download it don't install

Open aLogCat and email the log to yourself, and search for a url http:// etc.. and you'll find the update url for the update file
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
I will run stock and S-On Until CM7 comes around. That is my choice. While I wait I want my phone to run the way it was meant to be, with as few issues as possible. When CM7 comes out, I won't look back!

(I have played with the other roms, and quite frankly, don't like them. I am partial to CM have been since my G1)
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
you mean its telling you to update?

dl it! it will be on the root of your SD card if I remember correctly
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
Well I can say for the most part, Most will probably give up S-Off to see what performance changes stock will give us. The problem will start when people will want to revert back to S-off and root and realize they can't for a while. And that's when they start giving devs a real big headache. I just want OTA so I can crack it open and start dumping stuff
[HTC Sensation] maff1989:
So basically, if we install the Euro version with the updated radio, we can assume the same fixes for the TMOUS version, eh?
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
Nope, I haven't gotten the update yet. If I did trust me, I'd be the first to post. LOL.

I will dump it ASAP, when it comes out that is *cough*
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
because. if tmobile decided to patch the update in the same way sprint patched theirs, those who have not already achieved s-off would be forced to unlock through htc.
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
i hear you! i called tmo and asked to 'push' the update to my device.

was told that was out of their hands- HTC is doing it for waves of IMEI's/SN's

with a BlackBerry, it was just a tech clicking a few buttons on the BIS/BES and BOOM- update.
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
THANK YOU!!!!
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
Don't OTA Update!!

I found out through sources (damn hope they're wrong) that the exploit in which Revolutionary's S-Off tool utilizes is patched in the OTA. That means we'll S-ON with no reverting back to S-OFF unless you got the engineering hboot . Plus the fact that CWM will be reverted back to the stock recovery.
[HTC Sensation] rivalcycle971:
No update found for me, yet. Not S-OFF so I don't mind updating.
[HTC Sensation] Pneumatic:
That is why I am sticking with what I have. It is fast, smooth, customizable, not necessarily traceable by T-Mobile, and perfect for me. I don't begrudge people wanting to stay with stock releases. I was just curious as to why they would be on XDA acting like it is the second coming. :)

Sent from Android Revolution HD using XDA app.
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
someone more knowledgeable correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't fr3vo temp root by causing a buffer overflow in the graphics driver. if the ota contains a patched driver you'll be sol if you ever need temp root again.
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
that it correct

EDIT: *LOVE* your signature btw lol
[HTC Sensation] teshxx:
if you notice that wasn't for you. There was a reason why i quoted the person it was for :P
[HTC Sensation] yahtrickyah:
Wait, so you guys are saying that for all the people that still have a "straight out-of-the-box Sensation" that want to S-Off later should NOT install the new OTA update? Since it will force us to use the HTC version to unlock the bootloader?

:confused:
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
yes yes... typos!
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
***SIGH***
[HTC Sensation] teshxx:
haha no sweat bud.
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
i'm saying until someone with intimate enough knowledge of fr3vo checks the update out and gives the ok, i would hold off until it's made "safe" and re-posted here. otherwise that is a very real possibility.
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
And that is a good thing for those who are concerned, BUT I would still post it for those of use who don't care about the whole S-On/S-Off issue. I will use HTC's once CM7 arrives. Not concerned about warranties and tracking and all that crap.
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
that is 100% correct<-- what cpittman said that iz

EDIT: CRAP I quoted wrong person... **another 'doh!' moment**
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
I hear you and totally agree with you!! Just add a disclaimer...

btw when is CM7 arriving... i've heard so much and yet seen so little. Why is CyanogenMod so freaking popular ?? :confused::confused:
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
i would be more concerned with not having access to possibly vital partitions for flashing if htc decides to be selective with what they unlock.
[HTC Sensation] evereste:
Excellent advice here... I went through the steps to get s-off but will probably check out the OTA and take my chances... I doubt it will brick my phone, if it does, I'll just sell more drugs or go back into prostitution.
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
first rule of cm... don't ask for eta's lol. i can def understand that rule though given how popular cm is. for me it's the spirit of open development. if you've got something to contribute, submit it to gerrit for review and if it's all good bam you've improved a rom that is compiled daily for a **** ton of devices. from what i know your code must be clean as well ie no hacks. for most though i imagine it's popular because of speed, hype, custom options, tons of themes and constant updates to feed the flashing addicts.

btw that's not even mentioning the amount of true development that goes into building functional libraries to get the build working on a device in the first place.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Forgive my ignorance, but how would this go down exactly? Would someone basically get the OTA as a DL from someone that gets it first, figure out whether or not it kills S-OFF, and then defuse it somehow before posting it for us to DL? (S-OFF, rooted, STOCK ROM users)

Matt
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
I don't know if you realized, but revolutionary.io has already released the S-OFF for 1.18

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary

HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000

its updated again also

Revolutionary: S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
it's not an issue of killing s off unless the fr3vo exploit is in deed patched.

someone needs to capture the d/l, barring a leak of course. figure out what files are attacked by frevo. check to see if they've changed in the update. if so replace them with exploitable files from a previous rom, zip it up and hope it boots lol. if not all is good and there is no need to worry.
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
you can halt the update process... and it will dl the file to your phone, you can grab it and upload it here.

but YES sort of. we get the file, extract it to see the goodies and goo from there.

I doubt the exploit was patched though
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Ahh, okay. I understand now.

Thanks!

Matt
[HTC Sensation] cpittman:
i'm merely speculating from the evo3d ota that is required for the htc web unlock. it does in fact block the exploit used for temp root and is required in order to web unlock. the patch was verified by both alpharevx and agrabren. like i said speculation but better safe than sorry. just ask evo3d & og evo owners.
[HTC Sensation] Zehlek:
Nothing yet for Virgin Canada
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
I'll take your word for it. Forgive my ignorance as I stuck to my Kaiser/Rhodium and Windows 6.5 for a LONG time. I just joined the Android party and CM's name is everywhere. He should have his name on the freaking Hollywood sidewalk for the kinda celeb status i've been hearing about.

Pretty much....

Yeah but we have no idea what hboot this version comes with. Until we know for a fact, its a mystery

I doubt it myself but I understand that the hboot for the Evo 3D was patched and that was recent as earlier this week so **keeps fingers crossed**
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
your right! I was speculating also about the WWE that was released that didn't pop the exploit. We shall wait and see! I have 3 Sensations and access to many more. I'm not worried about the issue. As soon as one updates I'll know either way. or as someone here in the community grabs the file.

By the way, I missed the TMO Twiter update today. There was a guy at a TMO corporate store asking about the update that he had just got on his phone, a Sensation. I wasn't even thinking about it at all. He said" my internet icon changed, it has blue stripes now! are we with ATT already?" I was so distracted by the nonsense I didn't pay any attention to the bigger picture. HE HAD 2.3.4! Didn't even click in my mind. I had an XP device with me loaded ready to rock, I could have dumped his phone, and posted!

Hind sight, huh////
[HTC Sensation] waderaid:
sorry, I found it on tmobile form and did not look at thread title
[HTC Sensation] bobsbbq:
Can you tell us what this is?
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
Where did you get that? That is not for the Sensation. I just ripped it apart... It is for the G2...

WARNING, THIS IS NOT FOR THE SENSATION! DO NOT USE!
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
lol dont worry about it. one way or another we are gonna get it.... i'mma hit you up cuz i'm gonna try something weird here. will let you know once done
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Had my hopes up there for a minute!

Oh well...I just turned back on the notifications for updates.
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
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