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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musical_chairs:
Verizon's been doing this ever since the Motorola V710 - even though they lost a class-action lawsuit over the butchering of the V710, they still keep doing it, only in more creative ways. Funny thing is, hackers have never tired of hacking Verizon phones, it makes it kind of fun.

Of course, since I'm not a true Verizon user but an on-the-cheap Page Plus user, (the bottom of the cell phone food chain), I'll retire my Dinc when something cool enough can be bought used for $80.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
I kind agree ya know its a lot more fun to root the DNA than the one x

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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 123421342:
Straight talk uses verizon's network?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
Straight Talk uses all of the big four networks. It's common now to use the AT&T or T-Mobile (GSM) plans. However, you can also flash CDMA phones to run on their Sprint/VZW plans (same prices). It's just more common to use the GSM networks because if you're going to pay full price for a phone anyway, you get a better selection on the GSM side and can actually get non-carrier branded phones.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iowabeakster:
My hopeful Dinc retirement plans are now in place and in motion...

I played the Nexus 4 ordering game on the Play Store, yesterday. I picked up a 16gig model (1-2 weeks shipping). yay.

But since it is for my wife (still a dumb phone user)... my Dinc is not going to be retired, quite yet. We need to see how good the coverage is with the other carriers, before I burn the unlimited plan with Verizon (my Dinc line). We're going to try the T-Mobile $30 plan first. If the 100 minutes just won't do it (and no voip alternatives work well enough), then we'll try straight-talk on T-Mobile ($45). If coverage is bad on T-Mobile, then we'll try straight-talk on ATT (also $45). If we need roaming, then we'll do one of the other monthly 4G T-Mobile plans ($70 unlimited everything).

As soon as we find something that works for us (fingers crossed for the $30 dollar T-Mobile plan) then I'll be getting a Nexus 4 myself. Then I finally get to flip the bird at Verzon.

Man, I have my heart set on leaving verizon.

Even in retirement my Dinc will find plenty of use: voip home phone... music player... wifi device... low engergy consuming web-server...:cool:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7he Messiah:
That sounds like a good plan! Like I said earlier in the thread, I moved to AT&T StraightTalk and it's been being great for me. In fact, I ported my number to GVoice at the beginning of this week, so my Dinc is officially retired as a "phone". I just have to pay my last Verizon bill and I'm done with them!

Downside to note, when transferring to GVoice, you lose texting for a few days... damn, lol. Oh well, I guess that's what email's for.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahniwa:
I'll be heading to a Nexus 4 as well, and looking forward to it. My contract isn't up until February, but I'm not sure I can wait that long. My wife will inherit the DInc to use as an e-reader, email checker, wordfeud player, etc - so it's staying in use and in the family.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zimeron:
Also going the route of the N4, should be here in 1-2 weeks (supposedly).
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebopshoobop:
I hope that samsung opens up a bit on their exynos devices, as I would really like to switch to the note 2. It seems like a really great phone, but I'm not sure that I can do without cyanogenmod. I want to stick with Verizon, but the phone situation is getting ridiculous :(
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
They are by the end of the year

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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zimeron:
The N4 came and is already all setup (stock last twenty minutes), so long guys (and verizon).
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
I still gonna poke in from time to time :)

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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musical_chairs:
Hey we're gonna miss you! Thanks for all you've contributed!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7he Messiah:
Awesome! How do you like it so far? Notice we already have a decent ROM selection available to us (yay Nexus!)? I kept mine stock until Tuesday of last week, been on a few of them already myself now (settled on ParanoidAndroid as my DD, though).

BTW, if you don't mind my asking, are you getting a better rate through AT&T than you were with Verizon? I found with my employer I could get a 22% discount with AT&T (as opposed to 15% with VZW), but that still doesn't bring it into the Straight Talk realm for comparable service.

Glad to hear you go yours, and thanks for what you did with the Incredible man. :good:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zimeron:
Stock barely made it thirty minutes. I went with Straight Talk for a carrier, as AT&T, by myself, was pretty close to the price I was paying on Verizon, grouped with two others. I did go with AT&T's sim card though, as T-Mobile has no service in my area. Haven't had any call quality issues and the data connection has been better around town then it was for Verizon, especially inside buildings.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7he Messiah:
Not bad, sir. I wanted to wait until I was sure that I was going to keep it, since I had no one's word or recommendation for AT&T in my area, and like you T-Mobile doesn't have sufficient coverage for me. I went with Straight Talk for the exact same reason, as it was about $10 less through AT&T for me than Verizon (both single-phone plans). I could get AT&T down to around $65 with my employer's discount, but that's still $20 higher for basically the same service. Nah.

I find myself on Edge most of the time, but given my good WiFi coverage, I don't mind; it's good enough for email push notifications and the like. For some reason, the thing has been preferring HSPA the last day or two, but I'm not sure what I did to cause that. Signal isn't very good here with HSPA, so I've been trying to get it to go back to Edge, but no luck so far.

I digress.. I'm glad it's working well for you.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekweezle:
if like vzw coverage but not the price, check out Page Plus Cellular. They are a verizon mvno that uses VZW towers

for data users they have a 69$ unlimited talk text and 5 gigs of data, 55$ same with 2 gigs of data, 29$ 1200 min, 1200 text and 250 mb data. you can get yor refills through callingmart and save an additional 5% using discount codes they publish every month.

they take most verizon 3G phones with the only exception being blackberry and iPhones(although some people on Howardforums have reported to got it working). They must be old vzw phones with clean ESN's. no prepaid.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saltcreep1:
I think the retirement is coming soon. But I'm going to keep my inc just to play with I still love this phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekweezle:
rooting and putting a CM10 rom has breathed new life into my Dinc. it;s like i got a new phone.

i find no reason to change to something else until it dies or if I happen to acquire something better.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uzephi:
My Inc finally has to be warrantied out. So sad Verizon doesn't have anymore to replace it. I had to choose between an HTC Rhyme or and LG Spectrum. I chose the Spectrum.

I wish they would let me keep my phone though :( it would reset anytime a call would end or sending and receiving sms. I think it is a radio issue since it happens when turning from net 3g to phone state and back. (ending calls, reactivating 3g and texts do the same)

I will miss the emense support for a device like the Inc currently has. Thank you Pons, Tiny, Albonian, and the rest. Will miss this many developers for one device.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iowabeakster:
We got the N4 for my wife a couple weeks ago. I was away from home for a week, so she waited until I got home to do anything.

(bootloader unlocked + rooted, stock rom)

She is on the T-mobile $30/mo prepaid (unlimited data, unlimited text, 100 min talk) plan. No problem with coverage so far. The N4 data speeds on T-Mobile are crazy fast compared my Dinc on Verizon (~16 Mbps vs <1 Mbps) although ping isn't as good. Then there is how fast the hardware simply is (and I thought my tweaked out Dinc running a stripped CM7 variant was still pretty good... lol... not). Putting the two of them side by side makes my Dinc look like an ancient relic.

$30/mo is about $25 less than she was paying on verizon. And she didn't even have a data plan on verizon!

When I make the switch, we'll save another $42/mo.

Yielding us a savings of $804/year in service charges ($804 > the cost of two new N4s). We both will get substantially better phones without costing us extra money this year. Next year, that $804 will just chill in the cheking account. YAY, goodbye verizon.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romeyjdogg:
I felt the same way once I flashed CM10 as well, but then I used my brothers GS2 and wow, everything just flies in comparison.

CM10 will hold me over until something that I really want comes out. Perhaps I'll just wait for the GS4...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exerp:
Im still looking for my NEXT NEW PHONE...

but I'm not willing to "UPGRADE" and lose unlimited Data
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
If you pay full price for a phone, you can retain your "unlimited" data. However, VZW is finally starting to define their data usage policies. A co-worker of mine and I had a competition to see who could use more data in a billing cycle. On Verizon, he used 27GB. They actually told him not to do it again or they'd terminate his contract, but they failed to define what would be an appropriate amount of data on their "unlimited" plan. BTW, he lost. I used 35GB that month :)

Anyway, if you want to keep unlimited data, and you don't mind paying full price for a phone to get there, then you should look into T-Mobile service in your area. If they offer decent service, you can get on their value plan using any unlocked/international GSM-based phone. You could use the SGS3, SGN2, Nexus 4, or even wait for the Galaxy S IV or other future monster device. The plan starts at $49.99/mo for 500 minutes, unlimited text, and 2GB of 4G data (unlimited and throttled thereafter). For an extra $10 a month, you can add in unlimited minutes, or unlimited 4G data with no throttling, for a total of $69.99/mo for unlimited everything.

My wife and I are moving to the family version with my SGS2 and her iPhone 4S. For $79.98/mo, we get 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 2GB of 4G data per line (again, throttled unlimited thereafter).
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pharpe:
Just buy a used gnex off ebay for $200 and add it to your account. Wont burn your upgrade or your unlimited data.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lap823:
Same here.. waiting to have money for unlocked note 2. By then they might have something better. Maybe s4 will be a phablet.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BluGuy:
Got my Note 2 a week ago. This is the perfect phone for me to replace my Dinc with.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
I actually want a Note 2 but can't justify the price for it. Also, the S-Pen feature doesn't work with CM so you need to run stock to use it which bothers me. I'm not getting my phone on Verizon though. I'm jumping from the Gnex on Verizon to the S3 on AT&T.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
I'm going to try to switch to sprint or T-Mobile and get the s3 or note 2 :)

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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plexiglas81:
I'll upgrade for something that doesn't exist yet. I'm stuck with Verizon as long as I want my employer paying for phones and my monthly tab (which I do!) but I don't really like anything enough to switch of an inc. The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S III are too "old" to start a 2 year contract with and I looked at the DNA but I have this feeling that it will be put to pasture in a hurry. I looked at an iPhone 5 but then realized how awful it would be if I couldn't jailbreak iOS 6. I don't like the trend of phones getting bigger... certainly with the huge DPI of current screens some manufacturer could fit a 720p screen in something with a similar size to the inc.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Let's get this straight. You want to upgrade but the phones you looked at are too old to use for 2 years so you'll stay with an older phone because these will get outdated fast? In reality the hardware is still ahead of the software.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musical_chairs:
That's an interesting concept... but on thinking on it, you're right. The hardware of our Dinc's is still quite capable of running the very latest software available. The things that are broken like video camera (and even the various graphics issues) are only problems because the source code is not open for the drivers for those items, and the manufacturer has long stopped updating those drivers. Sure, a quad-core phone can run faster than a single-core 1GHz, but in many ways the software still has not tapped the full potential of a phone as old as the Dinc.

As an on-the-cheap no contract Page Plus user, I'll retire my dinc when something like the SGS3 gets closer the the $100 mark for a decent used one. That could be a while yet...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
I was actually referring to the s3 and gnex. The inc is technically outdated. It doesn't have hardware vsync and jellyean fails androids CTS. As far as is, yea it can run the latest but not without nasty hacks. Also the more graphically demanding games don't run on the inc. And the GPU is utterly rubbish on the dinc. I like to support this old phone because its fun to have new software run that should never run on an old phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekweezle:
The We are on this site to promote the further development of the Dinc. Its still a good phone and with cm 10.1, about on par with other phone running same software. The hardware is a little dated compared to the new stuff but it still works. Incidentally, just did a Skype video call using the rear facing camera pointed at a mirror and worked great. How I wish this phone had a front facing camera now along with a little more cpu.

Being on this platform has certain restrictions. You have to be in a verizon tower-either vzw, pageplus or I think straight talk would work too. Any replacement would have to be a cdma and 3g phone most likely although I hear of some success getting 4G phones working on pageplus.

In that realm, to have a relevant conversation without switching carriers what is out there better than the a rooted, unlocked dinc running cm10.1? Just wanted to add that it's overclocked to 1193 mhz, 149 mb app data partition is solved and no 2am reboots.

Incredible2?

Samsung Fascinate?

Motorola Droid x2 or3?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musical_chairs:
One of my friends recently got a Droid X2 on Page Plus and it's a very good phone, not sure on the hackability of it though as he's not that type. I thought I had a shot at a razr maxx from a relative but it vaporized. It looks like setting up 4G phones on PP is complicated but do-able (3g only of course). Personally I'd love either an SGS3 or an Inc4 (and by the time they're in my price range, 4G phones on Page Plus should be a non-issue), I really need to quit looking or my current contentment is going to vaporize and I'll end up spending money I don't have on a phone I don't actually need. :cyclops:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plexiglas81:
I agree with you that the hardware is way ahead of the software but for me it comes down to manufacturer support into the future. If you use Google's own "18 month rule", what phones are most likely to get Key Lime Pie in the future? Galaxy Nexus? Probably, but it's still a 13 month old phone and if it weren't a Google device, I would be weary. S III? Probably, I don't really know Samsung's history of keeping phones up-to-date but now would I just be better off waiting on a S IV? Any HTC phone out now? When I said the DNA would be put to pasture, I meant that HTC would quickly forget about this phone once the M7 was released. HTC seems to release a new "flagship" phone every 3 months.

In my situation I get to pick 1 phone every 2 years so I want to make sure it is close to the perfect storm of what I want in a device when I buy it. I don't *have* to upgrade now thanks to people like you, pons, zach, evervolv, etc. who have supported this device way beyond its intended life. There are a lot of other older phones out there that do not have the development community that the inc does.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
Samsung has a good history they a re still updating the sgs2 with 4.1.2 there are lots of many stable Samsung leaks so I also assume the they will give it 4.2 over all Samsung has a good history they just have they deathly brick bug :)

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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raven2m:
Was thinking for heading over to the Moto world and trying the razr max hd since I was having issue with my dinc but it running like champ now with a better rom.

I think I might just wait a little longer and see what comes out in Q1.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cheesethief:
Retired mine for a Nexus 4. Awesome to leave Verizon and I get better signal reception with Straight Talk AT&T. HSPA+ 15, but that's way better than what I had before.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riko540:
This is what I did and I'm very happy with my decision to leave Verizon.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sid3091:
I think i'll get an Xperia S, but i might have to settle for a Droid Razr in case i cant afford it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lap823:
Funny thing is almost 3 years ago in may I went to Verizon and a guy was telling me about this awesome phone. I knew nothing about smartphones and the phone was slim with sense which really is a beautiful OS. Behold bought my first smartphone and do not regret the choice I made. If I update I'll probably go with note 2, s3, or s4. Wanna keep the user replaceable battery.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lap823:
I'm ordering nexus 4 tomorrow. For the price gonna buy it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekweezle:
Playing around with a Samsung Fascinate. Not bad.... Seems faster than the Dinc. Over clocks up to 1.4 ghz.

Sent from a HTC Droid Incredible running CM 10.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
The Fascinate is the same generation as the Incredible. It's a modified Galaxy S I, and it was released in 2010. Has a better GPU and an ever so slightly slower CPU (at stock clocks) when compared to the Incredible. Samsung's updates (if you're on 2.3) have made it a smoother device though.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekweezle:
I was only interested in the Fascinate because I plan to stay in the 3g world as long as I can. Next phone I might evaluate is the Motorola X2. Its main feature is that it's dual core.

Biggest difference I noticed is that the app data partition is something like 1.3 gigs unlike the Dincs 149 mb. Also the Camera, camcorder and hardware video acceleration work in the roms I tried.

That ext4 low space fix to get 750 mb really saved me on the Dinc platform.

Sent from a HTC Droid Incredible running CM 10.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ravaged Pheonix:
The brick bug on the galaxy 2 was fixed a long time ago and the workaround for it was pretty simple. Galaxy phones are pretty easy to root but it is an entirely different world than HTC. Biggest thing people have trouble wrapping their heads around is recovery is baked into the kernel.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gianspi:
Just retired my Dinc and bought a Moto Razr HD. Nice phone, great display, very snappy, sweet 2500mah battery. Cost me $330 for a good looking used one off eBay. Camera is terrible and very little development, but there is one aosp rom that runs blazing fast and that is all I need. The one thing I love about this phone is the build quality: the kevlar and aluminum sides make it feel like a very expensive phone. No plastics what-so-ever. Worthwhile upgrade. I liked the S III better (the camera and screen) but couldn't get past the plastic feel.

I'm still browsing this forum though--gave the Dinc to my mom and she loves it. It's still a relevant phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lap823:
Ordered nexus 4 yesterday. Still not shipped yet. So I'll be using my dinc for another week. My wife is getting her first smartphone (lg optimus l7). Going t-mobile 30 dollar plans

And cutting our bill more than half. ;)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] glange65:
A change

A it's the only ROM I use...last two years.

Although honestly...probably my last Android device. (So don't want to hear the felgercarb, My continuing issues, two fried tablets, etc convinced me it's time for a change.. So...top contenders are:

1. Something still being developed for by MIUI, on Verizon. (None I can find...sigh)

2. Nokia 920 and WP8. Beautifully built device and I like the minimal Modern UI

3. Holding out for something to install Ubuntu OS when released. Fantastic looking .

Any other ideas?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skruffy Jew:
Already done; went to an apple iphone, now I'm on a Note 2
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luigi711:
I went to the DInc 2, then the DNA.

My DInc is now my music player. :) still sees the lastest updates, and used daily.

HtC DNA

XDA App
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zero_FeniX:
I'd like to get a Nexus 4 but it looks like T-Mobile will be the provider if I wanna make the switch. Just depends on how good their service is in the St. Louis area.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rootyourphones:
My Droid incredible turn to a mp3 player ,switch to an note 2 than sold my note 2 for an iPhone 5. I occasionally use my HTC one x sometimes.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagnaCore:
Well I finally upgraded. It feels like I broke up with someone that I've been dating for almost 3 years. I kept trying to come up with reasons not to do it. I almost felt guilty doing it as she sat in the car while i made the purchase. I'm glad I didn't do it on her birthday. My third external charger stopped working and I just said **** it. I'm not paying another 40$. So welcome home Droid Razr Maxx HD. 3300mah battery 32GB internal WITH an SD slot I was sold. I'm not a huge fan of Motorola but I'm even less of a fan of Samsung and HTC puts weak ass batteries in their phones I feel like this was my best choice for what I needed. I still need to root it OMG bloatware ****ing overload.

The battery life on this phone is also over 9000.

sent from my Droid Razr Maxx HD
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stix-N-Stonz:
tried a razr maxx hd for a week. hated it.

tried a DNA for 2 days and like it better, so i got one in the mail. I still keep my dinc around me though.... its just set up so perfect i cant leave it alone :o
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chehri:
Probably a Nexus Galaxy, but if I can grab a S III for the right price then I'll be looking there.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagnaCore:
What did you not like about it?

sent from my Droid Razr Maxx HD