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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cool4Christ:
If only I could afford to......

I have been waiting a long time to see what new phones have to offer me. I definitely want a larger screen, quad core processor, at least 1.5ghz, 2gb rom, 16gb ram, SD card slot, and removable battery. The would end my time with HTC for sure since they are not including the SD card slot and removable batteries anymore.

So I guess I am ready to move on. Maybe to Samsung for Galaxy S4 or Note II. Not sure yet. For now I am rockin my inc with P A C Man rom unofficial JB 4.2.2 and loving it so much. Only wish they could fix the camera and video issues. Other than that it is the best rom I have ever had.

Oh one other thing, I am using MiHome launcher on it and it works like a charm! Had my phone do a couple of reboots but nothing major. Thanks for the great ROM!

Cool4Christ....Get Right or Get Left Behind!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaepernick:
Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking by taking options OUT. Is it to make it as slim as possible? Don't see how a micro-SD card slot would give them problems in that area. As for the battery, what if it dies (especially out of warranty)? Nope, can't replace it yourself. You have to send it in for a fee and wait for what seems like an eternity without your phone to have the battery replaced. What if you want a better battery? SOL. The One looks like a great phone, but I don't see a reason to keep it for the long term, unless you plan to sell it right after the contract is up.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
The maxx HD boot loader unlock back just came out lol
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stix-N-Stonz:
Bloatware. Honestly I didn't give it a fair shake, only used it for like 5-6 days. Never even tried to root it. I wanted the DNA from the jump though but Verizon was out of them, Then one day they got more in and I was still in my 14-day trial period. Plus, I guess the dinc just has me partial to htc phones now.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagnaCore:
Oh ya. That's really my only knock on this phone. When I booted in up for the first time I was jaw dropping about the amount of preinstalled garbage that came with it. Once I root it that nonsense is outta here. I wanted the DNA but lack of expandable storage kept me away and the battery.

sent from my Droid Razr Maxx HD
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
You should get aosp soon now that the boot loader on consumer models is unlocked
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alton (Halo 2):
Galaxy nexus was the easiest phone I've rooted so far.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roflhorse:
Well I'm getting kicked off the family plan, so I'm moving to sprint and getting the one next week.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dswansonsb:
I'm waiting for a Nexus phone that supports LTE on the Verizon network.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
You mean this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SGH-I515-Android-Smartphone-Verizon/dp/B007AWHVIU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365862088&sr=8-1&keywords=Galaxy+Nexus+CDMA

If you mean anything different you'll be waiting indefinitely.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagnaCore:
Got her rooted via this thread. Apparently this man Dan Rosenberg is the shiz. Hats off to him for this exploit.

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/15208-root-motochopper-yet-another-android-root-exploit/

sent from my Droid Razr Maxx HD
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
Yeah he is P3Droid's friend and the one that cracked the bootloader
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nykcmelo7:
I might get an s4 on Verizon after i'm done with this incredible. I have an upgrade in June.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
Cyanogen aka Steve said that he was not going to make a cm tree for it so I would wait till a little after it comes out if you like aosp
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Source please. He had said he would probably pick one up on T-Mobile. I never recall him claiming not supporting it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
The rootzwiki and CyanogenMod twitter accounts, they both posted about 1 1/2 weeks ago
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Source means ideally a direct link to where you found this information, not just, well you can find it on twitter. I scanned both twitter accounts and didn't see what you were referencing. I call bull without proper links.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
I'll find it in a little and Steve quit Samsung to
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
That's pretty old news. Also did you read the part of twitter where CM does not pre-annouce support or lack of support for devices? This is one of the reasons why I don't believe your claim.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
Here I the link http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...v-r1501?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sent from my Ibanez RG Running Seymour Duncan Invaders
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Yep, that doesn't tell me anything new. I know this. Cyanogen has never denied support. TeamHacksung doesn't want to deal with Samsung anymore. That doesn't mean there will be no device support for the Galaxy S4. Even still I'm going to wait to see how the support will be.

In fact the only things that are definite are that CM doesn't officially announce support of a device prior to release, even Nexus devices. Also that Team Hacksung does not want to work on the device. Those are the only facts, everything else would be a drawn conclusion.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
So this April is 3 years now I will have my Incredible. Amazingly great run.

But now looking forward to what I can get next for Verizon in the next few months what do you guys think?

Samsung Galaxy 4 or HTC One?

Is the Htc One def coming to Verizon?

Also will both be easily rootable?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
HTC one is currently rootable on ATT but that will change. The sense 5 ui isn't for me I think. I could probably handle the s4's touchwiz ui easier. Still undecided. I like the hardware better on HTC but Sammy may get cm10.1 sooner or at least more easily unlockable.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
I think I may get the Verizon One because I can get it for free because of where my dad works but as soon as they get temp root I'm sure they will get the cid hack
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
So has the Htc One even been confirmed for Verizon? Is it still up in the air?

Verizon has to step up and start getting some top tier droids
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Not confirmed, but my decision for my phone (probably on ATT or TMobile) is based on its CM support and unlockability. HTC One I like the build better so I'm leaning toward that if CM works well on it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
They dropped support for the DNA already so I assume it will
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaepernick:
Already? That's pretty bad. At any rate, if I were to upgrade, it would definitely be the One. Chances are, I'm going to get a Nexus 7 before that though.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
Yeah like about 1 or 1 1/2 weeks ago .. I got my N7 for Christmas and for the prove there isn't anything better
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaepernick:
Nexus 7 work well then? I'm a bit worried about apps. I know there are apps specially designed for tablets, but it would be a bummer to find out that all the apps I bought for the Dinc won't work well for the Nexus 7. Tapatalk, for example, has an HD version for tablets. Does this mean that the original Tapatalk doesn't work well on the Nexus 7?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
Lets see what this turns out to be:

http://hothardware.com/News/Verizon-Holding-May-22-Event-at-CTIA-HTC-One-Galaxy-S4-and-Nokia-Lumia-928-Possible-Options-For-The-Network/

Hopefully the HTC One maybe...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
The original tapatalk works great.. I used it for a while the only reason I bought the tablet version is for my 10 inch tablet
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
Can I ask you guys a question. After getting a new device and rooting it you can easily just take your backups from TB and throw them on your new phone right? So you don't lose all your game data and such?

I mean as long as the apps you're installing are the exact same as your last phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Yes, it should be fine. Just don't restore system data. I always choose the restore missing apps with data option.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
Yea just game saves for Angry Birds and crap like that. Thanks man.

Here is another article hinting at a Butterfly 2 or DNA 2 which might be a super charged HTC One.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/23/verizon-htc-one-could-be-supercharged/
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insomniac_lemon:
I guess I'm awaiting a better Google Flagship phone, hopefully one with an actual MicroSDHC slot instead of making you need to buy a more expensive version to get more storage (come on, that's an Apple move right there....).

I originally thought "The next Google Flagship phone made by hTc".... but the hTc One looks perfect.... except for Blink. People have said that hTc is putting all of their money into the One to get them "back in business".... and then they make this Metroish/Modernish tile-based UI? I like hTc and Sense, and I love my Incredible, but I'm afraid a move like that feels out-of-touch and I wouldn't shed a tear if they crash an burn after this.

It's not just that they made Blink, but that they're taking a gamble by putting it on a device that could make-or-break them....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
HTC First actually runs stock Android if you disable Facebook Home. Blink is actually nice and I'm an AOSP lover myself. I like Sense 5 even though I have exclusively run AOSP on my Inc pretty much. You can use blinkfeed for news aggregation which might be better than Google Reader even though Google Reader is more flexible. HTC One is awesome.

A Google flagship with SD? Not going to happen. Also the Galaxy S4 with stock firmware only installs apps and games to the internal storage. The SD card can only be used for vidoes, documents and music.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insomniac_lemon:
For me it's mostly the idea. I've hated this tile-based simple stuff since I saw the first W7P commercials. W7P wasn't that popular, and then they brought it into W8 and I still hated it. I just watched a video review on the hTc One, and change my stance on it a little. I wouldn't mind getting one, but I'll stick with my Incredible for now, which I've had since around when the Incredible launched (it's an AMOLED screen). When I read news about the One before it was released, they said "Blink can't be disabled" which made me think it was the interface like a WP, but it just needs to be on one of the home screens. Still, it can't be disabled and runs in the background, which I think is kind of stupid that it will be using up battery life and data to run when you never use it. I wonder if you can remove it with TB? I also don't like that sense 5 is following this flat trend, either. I like how Sense is on the Incredible, things still have depth.

Honestly, SDHC slot and removable battery are essentials for me, and just make sense. I've got a 32 GB MicroSDHC card and a 2200mAh battery in my Inc. It gives people choice, and isn't that what Android is about? It allows users to upgrade, switch out, and replace things. If you run out of storage (which I did until I got the 32GB) or battery goes bad (mine actually did, and is why I had to get the extended battery) you don't have to get a new device! That's all I use the SD card for anyways, as applications aren't usually that big. I mainly needed it for music, downloads, ROMs for emulators, ect.

So basically, I'm waiting for that "perfect device" and the hTc One isn't it. No MicroSDHC slot, no removable battery, Blink that can't be turned off, ect. If my Incredible were like that, it wouldn't be usable anymore, I'd have to sell it for parts.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] have you checked out the carbon ROM nightlies
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
On HTC One? No. I'm just waiting for the CM device bringup. Carbon is going to use CM's device work anyways.

Edit: Just saw they got closed down. I think they wanted to claim first without giving credit or source.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
yeah for the m7, there is unofficial cm and aokp to... I will look, I actually run carbon on my n7 and am friends with the official maintainer
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] CM made some good progress the past few days https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13cez3rfz3dcf1ti221hl44tznvd3hhv04
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
I've been checking the One threads several times a day and I follow the main CM developers on Google Plus so it's likely I'll know about a solid build within a few hours of it being posted.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3109902]tiny4[/MENTION]578 have you tried any kernels with the HTC logo as a menu button
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Yes I have, but I don't like the current state of the logo2menu as the touch area doesn't really cover the whole logo but just the upper part. It's better for a long press on/off method.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
Where did you come up with the idea the MDM9600 is a power thirsty chip? Let's say they scale the die down... Now What? You've saved 1% on total power consumption on the device? Signal amplification and broadcast is what eats the bulk of the power, not the chip being active. I run LTE nonstop and getting a full day from this device isn't much of a challenge. Where this crap came from that LTE devices murder batteries, I don't know. What I do know is my dInc ate power at about twice the rate.

As for the dInc2, the die is smaller, and also capable of clock speeds at or near 1.6GHz. Combine that with the GPU and ram and the user experience is smooth in ways no dInc ever will be. You guys give too much credit to a CPU and not enough to supporting hardware or the specs of the technology. RAM is much faster than NAND, thus making the dInc2 noticeably quicker.

I guess, in short, I think you guys who "sadly" give up your dInc for a dInc2 are crazy.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
Even Qualcomm says their next generation (MDM9615) LTE chips will offer better power consumption. And perhaps your Incredible ate more power than your Thunderbolt, but when you aggregate the claims from multiple users, the opposite holds true. While I had limited experience with a Thunderbolt, my time with it was enough to indicate that a stock TB uses significantly more power than a stock INC, and LTE wasn't even live in my area at the time (went up 5 days ago).

I was referring to stock. At 1ghz, the 45nm and the 65nm chips are the same exact speed. That is all that I stated. As for the RAM, the actual system RAM for the Incredible is mobile DDR, not NAND. I have seen nothing to state that the Incredible 2 does not use the same exact mobile DDR (including speed) as the original Incredible, except in the amount (512MB vs. 768MB). Qualcomm's Scorpion core isn't as flexible as OMAP3 in terms of the types and speeds of memory that can be used.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shoman24v:
I agree. While the CPU may be the same, having it built on a smaller process is much better in terms of battery and overclocking.

The original Incredible was crap at overclocking, the Incredible 2 can do upwards of 1.6GHz.

That newer CPU + the 768mb of ram and the better GPU makes it an excellent candidate for a Sense 3.0 ROM.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
I don't disagree with any of this. This was my error. I forgot that I'm on XDA, where no one is truly stock :) Faulty assumption on my part.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shoman24v:
lol. I do know what you meant though :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
yes and it will eventually get sense 3.0 official :) htc desire hd has gotten it htc desire s has gotten it htc incredible s is set to get it thunderbolt and inc2 will probably get it aswell
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
Evo 3D Running Sense 3.0 with android 2.3.5.....576mb of ram free
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shoman24v:
I hope this is true!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
actually htc seems to be getting better with their power consumption my evo 3d has been running for 2 days on stock battery it sitting at 20% right now going to put it on the charger
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spiritcrusher33:
I left for the ATRIX.couldn't be happier. Batter life alone kills all other androids. Dual core oc'd to 1.3 .1 gig of ram.qhd screen. The list goes on. Lol but my dinc is still running strong as a media player..

Sent from my dual core beast..ATRIX
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
sorry but eww lol evo 3d can oc to 2ghz max :) but yea atriz is a good phone
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
Awesome, my buddy just bought one tonight.. Gonna check it out in the morning (and teach him how to use it)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
The Desire HD and Desire S got Sense 3.0 officially? Last I heard, there were custom ROM ports, but I hadn't heard that they got it officially. I did hear that HTC would try to backport some elements of Sense 3.0, just as they put a few elements of Sense 2.0 in the latest Evo and Incredible updates.

Anyway, I can't find anything on Google about the Desire HD or Desire S getting official Sense 3.0. Also, my friend's Desire HD is still stuck on Sense 2.x, latest official update.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
Htc desire hd offical sense 3 rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1215065

htc desire s leaked sense 3.0 officla rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1230029

htc incredible s recieving sense 3.0 official http://www.htcdesiresforum.com/htc-...l-receive-the-htc-sense-3-0-in-the-next-week/
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iowabeakster:
I am still contracted for quite a while. So, I'm gonna be with the Inc for some time still. Hell, I only paid 19.99 for the inc, so I'm still happy... esecially with the promising new ROMs on the horizon.

When it's time, probably I'll go for the latest HTC (with the smallest screen) with good support from the dev community.

But its a long way off... 4g will probably be the only thing offered at that point.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BIGfin86:
Nexus Prime....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
Thanks man, appreciate the links. I guess I misunderstood you, I thought that you meant that they were getting full Sense 3.0. They're getting many elements of Sense 3.0, but won't have the full experience that the sensation and Evo 3D have. Still, it's far closer to 3.0 than the Incredible/Evo are to 2.0.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
huh no? they are getting full sense 3
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
Hmmm, I still don't see that. Everything that HTC has stated, including what you've linked me, says that they will backport any elements of Sense 3.0 that they can to these older devices.

I mean, for example, in the very link you cited for me, it states:

So no, according to your sources, the full Sense 3.0 experience is not coming to all of these phones, at least not officially.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
weird i played with the official sense 3.0 on my friends desire hd today it all looked like sense 3 to me but then again i could be wrong..
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] how are those official M7 nightlies running
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
I'm not running it. I did a self build so I could fix the menu issue. Using my custom AOSP kernel with a logo key to menu mapping.

It was compiled with the changes fun the nightly anyway.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] nice is it stable
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
It's stable but buggy as initial nightlies will be. So no it's not stable. Does it run without rebooting or crashing? Yes.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] I remember hearing in the unofficial builds that in call audio, camera and data were broken, are they fixed now
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
Data's been working for a good week probably. Where'd you here that was broken? If you mean LTE, that is strictly related to the default APN being used. Camera mostly works now. I still get front facing camera FC's but the main camera works at 2MP or optionally 4MP with an apk codeworkx provided. The main dilemma now is the best way to handle the lack of a menu button.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachf714:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] good to hear.. I heard the data not working bug on YouTube and wasn't sure if it was fixed.. the one x series didn't have a menu button either but the used the recents button for it and I know viper boy mapped the back button long press for menu in his sense ROM for the sprint M7
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiny4579:
I don't know about Sprint M7 but the same exists for GSM M7. CM supports a remap of long press home to open menu which breaks the ability to open recents but there are other ways to access recents.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phoenixfriend:
Nothing. I just pulled it back out of retirement. I'm going to use it for a dash can and mp3 player on my motorcycle.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tydiamond11:
I am retiring it for a droid RAZR
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
I have no reason to doubt you. All it takes is for them to exclude one or two tiny things for it to not be considered the full experience. Like I said, I'm going off of HTC's word (and they've been wrong countless times before) because I can't play with the phone right now myself.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brando56894:
Most likely either the Droid Prime or the HTC Vigor.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brando56894:
Same here, I love the Sense UI but refuse to use it since the dock is a worthless POS. I'm currently running Insensitive Minimalist with ADW EX on top of it! :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
yup full sense 3 just ported it to the inc :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] techobsessive:
Hmm, well either the Vigor or some form of Sensation. It needs to have Dual Core, four inches or higher screen, with qHD or better, 4G, a good screen, anddddd NFC.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1107963:
My incredible is officially Retired.. I got a HTC Evo 3D now... I Love this phone... also im happy that im out of verizon wireless..
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
has a "Warm" feeling to it dont you think :)