yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I'd rather pay less and deal with decent 3g than pay what Verizon charges for every little random thing.

I can watch Netflix while sitting at the park, or browse while listing to chronix radio, Im not trying to beat a missle in download speeds here lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
The equipment is up already so it'll be fast. That's the last worry I have. I just hope we don't go through a year of only lte netbooks & data cards before we see the phones.

My Wimax speed is fine, I just want better range & wall penetration for when I'm at the office.
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
id agree fully IF i had decent 3g speeds lol 2 towers have been fubar for about 9 months in my area and sprint's not in any big hurry to fix it seems
[HTC EVO 3D] marine1239:
Until very recently VZW also made you choose 4g and an old phone or 3g and a new phone. Droid 3 3g only work phone FTL.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigjim1488:
Makes me wish I had switched to Verizon. I have my little brother rolling around the house bragging about his 4g all the time. Pisses me off
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
Yeah my buddy brags all the time about his speeds

E3D
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
This is the second time they've expanded service here in Atlanta. I noticed it when I was up around spaghetti junction that I actually had LTE on my TB damn near to Rome. Folks thought VZW was playin when they said they're going to have their whole 3G network covered in LTE by 2013.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Hell for many of us the 3G isnt even decent.
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
its not wimax that sucks

wimax>lte

its the frequency and backhaul that sucks which wimax has nothing to with.

kinda like 3g in that you don't blame 3g, you blame sprint. same concept
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Well clear sucks that seems to be more fitting.
[HTC EVO 3D] Success100:
ehhh lets not start a debate here, but LTE is superior to Wimax, which is why all the major carriers are using it and or about to. (sprint)

The inherent flaw with Wimax is the frequency it uses, BUT isnt dependant on Sprint. Clearwire modems have the same trouble penetrating buildings and stuff like that because of the high frequency. TRUE wimax could be theoretically better, but LTE is more practical in real world usage because of the lower frequency it uses, which is better when it comes to range and penetration.

The variable here is the LTE network on VZ has barely been tapped into. Who knows what real world speeds will come when it finally gets saturated with 4G users.

So as of RIGHT NOW. LTE is beating out Wimax...Dan Hesse has admitted it
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
My LTE speeds have actually gotten faster since I got my TB. Got a bump after the outage and again after the first expansion. I'm yet to go below 18 MB/sec and average around 22-25. AND I got it while the data was still unlimited.
[HTC EVO 3D] Success100:
holy ****!! the fastest Ive gotten on Sprint was about 8-10MB/s. When I was on Tmobile i was getting between 7-14.
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
My buddy avg's 20 megs down on his Thunderbolt. Also I didn't make this thread to start a fight over what's better. Just found it sad how slloow they are moving

E3D
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
Yeah makes me wish I would have switched to Verizon the day before they implemented the data caps. I had called up a Verizon business rep and everything, but I couldn't justify the huge price increase.
[HTC EVO 3D] sheep_duck:
i wish i could say that i dont care about 4g because 3g is ok, but 3g blows just as hard as 4g in my area (ok not AS bad, i literally dont get 4g here) but my 3g speeds generally range from 5-40kbps and usually get almost no upload at all. even with getting a good price on my plan, sub dial up speeds is literally ridiculous.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Lmao My dad brags about the data speeds (Verizon) over sprint. I said so what do you want a cookie? If I wanted to be on Verizon Id be on Verizon. He dropped it after that.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I agree. I think Wimax is the better protocol (It's just WiFi's super big brother), unfortunately the implementation that Clear (and Sprint by proxy) use (and have cleared by the FCC) use high frequencies in very narrow bands...which fncking sucks. Hard. I knew this would happen even before Wimax came out. Wimax on the same spectrum that Verizon's LTE is on would perform pretty much the same...identical or better if they used fiber from the antenna to the backhaul line....

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, what if, maybe one day...etc etc etc.... Here's to hoping iDen dies a rapid death and somehow Wimax or LTE magically clear the FCC on those frequencies.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Just show him your wallet. Sprint's data is better because it's unlimited. Don't forget that.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Not to mention that actual data rates and signal strength vary wildly from one place to another. I have noticed that in lower income areas (that are also correspondingly more population dense) where Sprint is probably rather popular for financial reasons my Sprint signal is far stronger but my data speeds fluctuate wildly between 100kbps up to 1.7mbps depending on time of day.... but in more affluent areas the Sprint signal is much lower but I get amazing speeds...I actually saw 2.7mbps reliably a week or two ago in one of those areas. I'd imagine most people there spend the extra money on Verizon without a second thought....I can't imagine a full-bar signal, I wouldn't doubt 3.0mbps being possible...theoretically impossible? Maybe, but 2.7mbps with half of my bars? I wouldn't have figured that possible.

...though I hear that 'in theory' signal strength has no bearing on data speed on CDMA networks, though my experiences stand in stark contrast to that theory.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Sounds about right. During the day, my 2 (out of 4) bar signal grabs about 1700 kbps DL, then at night, I get 2600 kbps DL. It's all about your location and Sprint appeals mostly to people on budget, so the less populated areas should be covered better than Verizon or AT&T. T-Mobile's pretty much in the same market as Sprint. They tend to chase being called the cheapest.
[HTC EVO 3D] badvcr:
I couldn't had said it better!!
[HTC EVO 3D] derek826:
If you actually look at clear.com's coverage map it shows a lot of areas that have 4g that Sprint doesn't show. I looked on there one day and sure enough my town had 4g which i didn't know about because Sprint doesn't show it on their coverage map. So you should check the map out.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I don't know, I get 500kb-2mbps DL at my house on 4G and Clear's map states I have "Best Coverage." It's interesting that the roads near my house are covered, but if you go in the wood nearly 20 feet away, you're no longer covered. You'd think that their towers go by a radius distance and not claim certain areas.
[HTC EVO 3D] EricSS619:
Wimax can use many frequencies.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
People keep saying this but I only pay $12 a month more for my VZW line than I pay for my Sprint line. I dont know why people act like you're going to be paying $500 a month more than what you pay for a single line on Sprint. I guess its kinda like if i'm driving a ZR1 Corvette and you're driving a Toyota Camry... im quite sure you paid a good bit less and spend less in gas per month.. but if I can afford it without issue who's really winning? lol
[HTC EVO 3D] sheep_duck:
yeah, if i'd have known that sprint was going to be this bad in comparison to my previous networks (at&t and verizon respectively) i would have just stayed on them, i jumped ship soley for the 3d though and had no idea sprints service was this bad. i'd easily go back to paying 10-15 more a month to have quality service again.
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Honestly though... I've seen much better and reliable speeds from Sprint since I've bought the Evo 3D. I'm not sure if its part of Vision or what but I'm getting great speeds since this purchase. Look back to my posts with the Evo 4G and you'll see that I was getting **** speeds. (Before you say it, no - the phone was not faulty. I could reach speeds that I am getting now but not as often.)

Getting a constant 1Mbps+ for d/l speeds with my phone is definitely a step in the right direction for Sprint. Now only if they decide to expand the 4G around where I live just a little bit more will I be truly happy. Or if they actually decide to announce that its live. (It doesn't show 4G on their maps but 4G clearly shows on clears. :rolleyes:)
[HTC EVO 3D] zone23:
Yes Verizon is king of the networks. If they did something with their pricing they could rule the mobile world.
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
i agree with this fully
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
It's your area. There's a lot of places that have **** data speeds, my area included.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
U might be paying only 12 a month more but if you go with the less tech savy and do straight up w VZW nav and unlimited data etc Sprint has them beat. Does VZW offer unlimited calls to any mobile phone and only use ur min for land line? I don't think they do been a cpl months since I looked tough.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
We just got Verizons LTE here in Springfield, MA. And still nothing for Sprint. The closest place for us is 45 minutes away in Hartford,CT.

Sent from my double barrel Shooter. BANG!
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
FYI I dont need VZW navigation just like I dont need Sprints. I prefer googles over both. As far as the unlimited calls to any mobile, do you know how many minutes out of the 1,000 that I have that I actually used for the last billing Cycle for Sprint including any mobile? 124 minutes. I dont talk on the phone like that so the 500 minutes is more than ill ever need. Not to mention most people I talk to have VZW so those calls are still free anyways. As long as I have unlimited data and texts, good reception and good data speeds im cool.

That's one thing people fail to realize, what benefits one doesnt benefit everyone. Just like the whole rollover minute thing with AT&T. That wouldnt benefit me whatsoever since I dont do a whole lot of talking on the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Well then ur lucky
[HTC EVO 3D] Craysh:
Just state:

Cool dad! Just don't use to too much or you know, they'll slow you down or cut you off.
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
We've gotten 4g turned on just recently in my town, Bloomington-Normal, IL. It is not on the Clearwire or sprint website, but it is on.

It is very spotty to say the least. I still have not figured out where the tower is. I also have not found a place to get more than 1 bar 4g. Funny thing is that when I am on the 3rd floor of the office building I work in I get close to 5mb dL and 1+ ul but I barely get 700kb dl and maybe 100kb ul when in the parking lot of the same building.

On a side note...I was up near six flags in gurnee last week. I stayed in Bannockburn at a laquinta right off of 294. When I checked the speedtest.net app I was getting just under 3mb down and nearly 2 up. That was 3g! I wish I got that here in town.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
That's how I feel. I can do everything I want to do with my phone with the speeds that are available so I'm not very concerned about it; especially when you consider how much more Verizon charges for service. You get what you pay for I suppose...
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
Ok guys just extract the rar and place the files were they belong with a file manger i prefer root explorer.I lable each folder so you will know were every file go.I also included the free epub books when your done placing the files fix permissions or use rom manager then reboot all done. now you will have books in your my shelf widget
[HTC Sensation] daman215:
the books show up but i cant acess them i get fc
[Bada Software and Hacking General] bruno2k7:
Downloading now!!! anyone else downloaded?? let`s try !!!

share your thoughts

http://hotfile.com/dl/126991111/9d3f7ee/S8500XPKH2.rar.html
[Bada Software and Hacking General] rajarshi10:
downloaded it.... havent yet flashed.... ppl give some changelogs or reviews about it pls. the samfirmware one is freaky.... :P
[Bada Software and Hacking General] bruno2k7:
update!

This the latest beta firmware of bada 2.0 for the Wave I & Wave II. Samsung has compiled both firmwares on Monday 8th August. Below you will find a short list with some things that has been changed or improved:

- New icon (Sound & vibrate) in the statusbar

- Better Graphics startup screen Chaton app

- Slightly changed keyboard

- New startup screen Twitter app

- Slightly changed Youtube icon (Menu)

- Faster scrolling through photos

- Voice output, you download German test voicefiles. With voice output your device can read incoming sms text messages, email and more. I haven’t test this feature at the moment.

- Can’t log into my Samsung account.

Problems:

With this firmware I faced for the first time some real problems, because it will crash on some (stranges) moments (mainly using the twitter app). I advice you to set the debug level on low, so you won’t get a blue screen with detailed crashlogs instead your device will reboot automatically.

For the ones who are using KIES for backups, I can advice you to backup only the contacts and sms text messaging. I won’t suggest to use a full backup, I’ve tried it 2 times but both times my device crashed and it got stuck into a reboot loop.

Overall I can say that the devices are a bit faster (snappier) but it also crashed often than before. Since this is just a beta firmware its normal that it crashed.

Once again I’m warning people that they should be aware of these things. If you want a stable 2.0 firmware you should wait till 2.0 is ready!!

- How to fix Samsung account problem...

There is a new Samsung Account login in this beta Firmware and it doesnt work, users cannot type in passwort and after klicking on logon bada crashes. But there is a workaround, so everyone can use the downloads in samsung apps.

At the first startup page to configure language time, and samsung account there is still the old login page.

You can trick the wave by removing your simcard starting the phone with it, then it forgets that it was already the first time started.

After that simply add your simcard and logon on the first startup page, after that you will not see in settings/accounts any account but you can use them as always.

Email accounts can be handeled over the settings/email and so on.

You will see Samsung Account over samsungapps.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Setialpha:
Things I've seen already:

- much faster and smoother than before

- font much easier on the eyes (clearer)

- bootsplash black again (no blueish like in XPKH1) / dialogs still blue

- the 3 info pop-ups after first-run have been revamped

- several icons revamped
[Bada Software and Hacking General] stathismes:
That's nice, but based on what I have read on the SamFirmware changelog, I decided to NOT flash my phone with this firmware, mainly because I don't particularly like (frequent) crashes....

I'll stick to XPKH1 for now...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] toxicdust:
20 more min of downloading (hotfile is piss slow as usual .. 100kb/s :( )

Then i'll flash as well
[Bada Software and Hacking General] stathismes:
use jDownloader. I get 650Kb/s on free mode!
[Bada Software and Hacking General] toxicdust:
Not to burst your bubble but the others apparently also crash a lot ... i haven't experienced that in particular but i'm just saying.

He did mention its mainly in the new twitter app.... so normal use of the phone should be fine.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] toxicdust:
That's such BS dude ... I have a premium account and i use DAP
[Bada Software and Hacking General] stathismes:
thanks for the clarification, nevertheless I rely on the twitter client... Anyway, I'm sure the next beta will have these problems fixed, and I feel safe enough with XPKH1...

thanks again!
[Bada Software and Hacking General] davidmclaren:
what i want to know is does it installs all apps? is it worth the download?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Setialpha:
Seems SocialHub - at least here - (changed CSC to DBT) doesn't show my set-up Facebook account, though it properly display the feed and posts status updates.

You'll see that it actually added the account by checking feeds or "add account" there facebook won't show up anymore (obviously).

More I noticed:

- phone faster reacts after boot

- you can't switch pages by swiping in the gap between the bottom two rows (on menu, not homescreen)

SamsungApps always tells me "network not available", also I can't see any string in it's UI.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] stathismes:
oh man, DAP??? it kinda reminds me of... 2000/2001 times and stuff! :D

But you're right, Hotfile is very slow generally...I paid for a premium account some months ago, and had been cursing every moment after I did that... Filesonic works for me like a charm for months now.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] stathismes:
I also noticed:

- CPU usage in "About phone" is shown in real-time now
[Bada Software and Hacking General] crionic:
It was always in real time.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] rajarshi10:
Is it safe to flash this one ? All the people who flashed.... are they experiencing loads of crashes ?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] harsaad:
as other 2.0,, once get into contact.. then to get back to main screen will be difficult ... few home touch needed
[Bada Software and Hacking General] kabir_sharma009:
Can anyone upload a preview video of S8500XPKH2 in action? :o
[Bada Software and Hacking General] toxicdust:
Its exactingly the same as all the others. Nothing visually changes at all in the versions it just becomes more stable and less crashes and faster

Other than that nothing ever changes.... just sayin
[Bada Software and Hacking General] anghelyi:
There are crashes as before. But I was able to restore my yesterday's backup (with Apps :) ) and some of the stuff worked from the backup. Apps, background, internet connection settings. I tlost however my bookmarks, the homescreen settings, accounts and the ringtones...

But the biggest selling point of this fw is the SPEED. It's much faster. The browser flies compared to the KH1.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] toxicdust:
Problem is that Samfirmware uploads just to Hotfile when you want 1st day download.

Without the Premium account i'm stuck at 10-12kb/s on the free one witch is absolute BS but ye... and its not my line speed thats the most frustrating point of it all :)

I'll try jDownloader in future. Hopefully it helps
[Bada Software and Hacking General] waveboy:
guys use oneleech.com
[Bada Software and Hacking General] xator91:
Or www.tigerleech.com work!! ;)
[Bada Software and Hacking General] waveboy:
since youtube icon is different in this firmware......anyone thought to check if it opens a youtube app instead of mobile youtube website?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] anghelyi:
It's still the mobile site...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] stathismes:
funny, it wasn't for me in the previous betas...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Przekret:
S8500XPKH2:

http://www.multiupload.com/ILYRUDUPZ8

Pass: sampro.pl
[Bada Software and Hacking General] hellseekar:
wat the hell man!!!:confused:

im a free user and i have a connection speed of 7.2 MBps and using free bandwidth on any down load site i get minimun of 2.0Mbps without any acclerators (well i always used IDM)

on hotfile if its not crowded i can download a 200 Mb file in an average time of 3-5 mins:D........lol(using IDM!):)
[Bada Software and Hacking General] deepsas:
i want SHP for this version....
[Bada Software and Hacking General] abd28xd:
GUYS HURRY ALL BADA 1.2 aPPS GAMES THEMES DO WORK IN xpkh2

REALLY TEST THEM!
[Bada Software and Hacking General] oSandmaNo:
Themes?

really?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Setialpha:
I don't know. maybe it works.

I don't know how themes are built on Bada, but if they're like GTK+ themes, say a given widget has a given image, it might pretty much work on Bada 2.0, though it may not look that good.

I'm going to test some theme later. What's more than an infinite reboot-lopp that may happen?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Setialpha:
It does indeed work. Just tried with my "Star Trek" theme I bought.

Of course most visual elements aren't displayed in the themes style, but everything that already existed in Bada 1.x will be shown in your choosen theme's style (mostly noticeable: the icons in menu page).
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Pluto:
Is/was MobileAP working ? And can I recover my contacts via Samsung Kies ?
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Setialpha:
Recovering contacts using the old way (SPB) work with each beta. Importing from SIM- or SD-Card = Settings > Contacts > Import. Importing from the new Backup-Feature does work for me, too.

Never used MobAP.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] Tunesier1980:
bada 2.0 can read arabic????????????
[Bada Software and Hacking General] mylove90:
Give up Tunesier1980

bada 2.0 won't read or write Arabic until the official Arabic FW release or ho1od completes CSC file hacking

So please DONOT ASK ABOUT ARABIC

if We manged to put Arabic in there YOU WILL SEE A FW ABOUT THAT

Best Regards
[Bada Software and Hacking General] rawshell:
Anybody knows how to delete the browser history? Settings-> Internet-> Auto delete data doesn't work for me.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] max_rockzz:
man! this f/w version is damn buggy n crappy!

everytime i play some game..then i exit it completely and go to text anyone..it crashes n reboots!

if i minimize the game n try to text then also it crashes n reboots!

cant even handle one game in the background :/
[Bada Software and Hacking General] deepsas:
i faced the same problem .. this firmware is even worst than KG5...

KH1 is better...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] bong4316:
its a beta

beta means not the final release.

of course there will be bugs.

its just proof that samsung is serious about bada 2 coming soon officially.

its not meant for everyday use yet.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] max_rockzz:
apply the thing called "brain" b4 saying something!

blah blah blah..!!

i just meant that after releasing XPKH1, they have released XPKH2, which logically should have had been a more stable version than the earlier!

there is no point of releasing a f/w which is having more bugs & memory issues..!!
[Bada Software and Hacking General] baza14:
Yeah but KH2 its much faster than KH1...
[Bada Software and Hacking General] spacks:
The truth of the matter is not how fast it goes, but how stable it is.

No one prefers a fast car that will only break down after the first 50 kilometres.

Beta firmwares are not final products, but in most cases, they are as stable as the final product. And in every subsequent betas, they are always better than the previous ones. But not so with this KH2 beta. It is worse than the previous ones in terms of stability. Many testers as you know, have already reverted back to KH1 or KG7. And majority, including me, back to the stable bada 1.2.
[Bada Software and Hacking General] sokopa:
as i can see it without any knowledge about developing i understand that samsung tried to make a faster fw but this version is more unstable, but again, it's BETA!!! it's not final yet!! we will have to wait and see the FINAL and STABLE release to judge against Bada 2.0. so just relax and hope that those things will be fixed and we will finally have a sleek, fast and stable final version of Bada 2.0