yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
I was right there with you, but I read that these Gingerbread leaks also allowed you to use Media Hub with HDMI out (which it does), and my credit was about to expire :D

No problem, I used the clock and voltage settings in this post but only used the Temperature profile. Had no issues. I tried straying from it but started getting crashes so I went back to it. If you're looking for only battery improvements, you could skip the 1300 Mhz OC and just underclock and undervolt. That whole thread is devoted to an OC kernel though so feel free to read through and it may shed more light on it.

Hope that helps.
[Verizon Droid Charge] braveally:
Awesome. Thanks
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
Automatic brightness will use more battery than setting it to one brightness and manually adjusting it as needed. Automatic brightness requires activating and polling the light sensor, then increasing/decreasing the brightness. On top of that, I've found that automatic tends to keep the screen brighter than it needs to be for me in most situations.
[Verizon Droid Charge] braveally:
Good point

I think your right. I had a similar issue with auto screen brightness with my old Touch Pro 2. I will try this among the things written earlier to see if it has any impact.
[Verizon Droid Charge] braveally:
5% drain in last twenty minutes. Just Lte on and no activity but writing this post.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Scrappy1:
20% drain per hour of screen on time is the norm for Charge. Throw in the typical idle background drain of 4% per hour, and you'll see why 3 hours of screen on time per day is the max you can get.

Now then, the drain due to active screen use is expected and can't be improved. However the idle drain is unusual and *probably* can be fixed by future Samsung firmware. (gingerbread is not fixing it yet). I'm guessing its poor idle radio management, which is why undervolting the core does nothing to help.

If the idle drain can be greatly improved, the Charge could then expect to get 4-5 hours of screen on time per day, and I'd be a happy camper.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Ted A:
I'm in the same boat here with Humble 1.51.

4G at 4 bars, -84dBm, surfing the net, 30% back light, no gps, no wifi, 2 gmails syncing -- 20%/hour.
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
Brightness is at the lowest setting for me, Twitter, Facebook, and Beautiful Widgets syncing hourly, 2 Gmail accounts with push notifications, Google Voice, and possibly a few more background apps. I'm at just over 4 hours being unplugged with 20 min. of screen on time and my battery is at 75% and was charged fully when I unplugged it. I have not had any major use as far as playing a game or major web surfing either.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Cvetocek:
I have good luck with imoseyon's lean kernel 0.13.3 and gummycharged fe. I had very poor battery life before i tried that combo.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Rythmyc:
Go back to Stock. Completely wipe everything (including SD Card ... this is optional probably, but it's what I did. Make sure you back up on your computer). Then re-flash your rom. I had this problem after switching initially from Froyo to GB. My battery life is amazing now with the new GC GBE 2.3.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BeefJerky9:
I've seen you post this on other threads, and it just proves that different users of the Charge have different experiences. I think a lot of it has to do with the network.

I have had my phone off the charger for 10.5 hours now at home, which varies between a moderate and weak signal. It is still at 81%, which means it has had a 1.8% per hour battery drain. It has been mostly idle, but I've sent a few texts and quickly browsed a website. If it was truly left alone, it would be even less than 1.8% per hour. This clearly debunks your one-size-fits-all claim of 4% idle battery drain.

As for screen on time, I've done 2 hours of screen on time during an 8 hour day and still had ~48% left. Doing the math I could get ~3.85 hours of screen on time in a 15.3 hour day. My battery drains quite evenly with no sudden drops, so this would be a fairly accurate and realistic expectation for me. If I really needed to, I should be able to get ~4.55 hours of screen on time in an 8 hour day. This is based on my high of 1.8% per hour idle drain and 18.8% per hour screen drain. Or, if I did a 10 hour day (like I do quite often), I could do ~4.35 hours of screen on time. Once again, your sweeping generalization of 3 hour max screen on time certainly doesn't apply.

I don't have any special or magical configuration either. I leave 4G on, which sometimes drops to 3G at my house since the signal is weak at times. I leave the GPS and bluetooth on at all times. I have the screen brightness set on automatic. I also have Gmail setup with one push email account and leave auto/backround-sync on at all times.

I run Imnuts' PBJ voodoo kernel with a stock deodexed EE4 system and got rid of some of VZW's bloatware. Mind you, I haven't noticed any significant difference in battery life between the fully stock stock EE4 and the current configuration.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Scrappy1:
I agree, in rare cases you can acheive 2% idle drain per hour. The average is 4% per hour. I used system pannel extensively on 2 Droid Charges over a period of weeks. One ran GB, one ran Froyo. There is no difference.

Contrast this to my 5 days with Inc2. Here, when idle, the phone was *really* idle. Very typical to see 4 hour streatches with 0% idle drain.

Hell, even the fascinate on 2.1 could go 4 hours idle (and more) with 0% drain.

When Froyo hit Samsung phones, idle drain went down the toilet. There is no way 2-4% idle drain per hour should be acceptable.
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
This is definitely true. At work, I'm right at one bar of signal and the phone seems to always be searching. Even with near 0% screen time, my phone will not last through a 9 hour day. At home with a strong signal, I've gone more than 48 hours between charges.
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
If it's draining that much, it's not actually idle and something is waking the phone. I had my Fascinate loose <5% over a 10hr period at night already when I wasn't using it. You may consider the phone as idle when the screen is off, but screen off doesn't mean it's idle. Any one of a number of background tasks can take the phone out of sleep mode and cause battery drain that is fairly significant, 10+%/hr.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Scrappy1:
Yea, I know. As far as I can see with system pannel, the processor usage when screen is off is 0.5% to 3%, which is fairly typical from what I've seen before. I suppose there could be a wake lock issue, but nothing shows in android battery stats as having large "stay awake" time. Also the GB battery graph shows very little "awake" without "screen on". Spare parts doesnt work with Charge GB apparently.

So at this point, I'm still blaming poor radio management.
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
So after 40 hours I was at 8%, with 3 hours 11 minutes of screen time and 35 hours of wifi. Definitely okay with this.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
I wish...

Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] SCWells72:
I've been pulling the free app of the day from the Amazon AppStore ever since it debuted. However, I noticed two days ago that it suddenly said I needed to enable one-click, and when I followed the link it prompts me to enter my mobile #. Since I'm on the Nook, I don't have one, and I don't have an Android phone. Anyone know how to work around this?
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] joenathane:
You should be able to use any cell phone to activate the one click.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] SCWells72:
That's what I would've thought as well, but even after trying that it still tells me I need to activate 1-click specifically for the Nook as a mobile device, and the help for that screen says that the phone number I enter is associated with the mobile device from which I'm trying to access Amazon services.

EDIT: Never mind...(semi-)user error. Somehow my payment method had been disassociated from my one-click.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] freonchill:
Why not use your google voice number?

Thats what I did.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] jgaf:
You don't need to use any phone number, I just put my credit card info for one clic which was already saved. Just scroll a bit down.
[Xperia Arc General] intrancer:
Hello

By accident deleted ko module files from lib root folder can someone give me the default ones please

I have UK unbranded arc
[Xperia Arc General] SXUsr:
"By accident deleted", then learn from your mistake, reflash, and start from scratch. ;)
[Xperia Arc General] Lord Takyon:
It always amuses me when people say things like that.

I hear it often, and always wonder how you actually manage to do it in the first place?
[Xperia Arc General] intrancer:
Yep that's exactly what I did... cheers for the valuable advice..... :-)
[Xperia Arc General] SXUsr:
Reflashing is annoying but sometimes you're just better off biting the bullet.
[HD2 General] sigma20xx:
I have a few questions. Where can I get an HD2 for a good price? It seems like no matter where I look, it's still selling for $300. Since it's a GSM phone, can I use it with AT&T by unlocking it? I have a tilt 2 but I'd really like to try this phone out, that's why I'm asking and this will definitely be a step up for me.
[HD2 General] phoneman09:
You can definitely pick one up for lower than 300$. If I were you I would look on craigslist in your area or even eBay. The prices of a new hd2 should be around the 250 mark maybe a little lower. You can also unlock the hd2 so you can use it with at&t. If you want a hd2 that will work with at&t 3g look for a Telstra hd2 (9193) that work great but that maybe around the 275$ mark.
[HD2 General] orangekid:
lol, you can have mine for $250 shipped :)
[HD2 General] htccraze:
I brought mine on ebay for $120. Sniped it at the last second. :-) Normally though I've seen them sell on there about or under $175 even. You just have to wait really. Look at an odd time if you can like on a Tuesday morning bout 2am. Lol. Not a lot of people are up then bidding so you might have better luck. Plus a lot of people don't know for your best price you really should end an auction on a weekend like late Sunday when people are most likely to be online.
[HD2 General] backlashsid:
common man....they are all over Craigslist for $150 **mint condition** infact i am getting one today....:D:D for a friend !!
[HD2 General] htccraze:
Not real sure where you live but here in Maryland they're far and few in-between on Craigslist. But it does separate into cities so the sellers by you won't show up for me. :-(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estugarda:
I have an almost new HTC HD2. I am testing various ROMs and radios to find the reason for why is my HD2 going through battery so quick.

At this point I am with HD2O v18 ROM and 2.15.50 radio. This is the best combo for me so far in terms of battery use. Even so, my phone, with everything but 2G turned of, I'm getting 38-39mA. With turned on screen with brightness on auto, and everything else turned of except 2G, I'm getting 100-130mA. This all seems to much to me.

I also sometimes boot AmeriCanAndroid from SD card, and there it's even worse. 60mA on standby and 120-140 on everything off but auto screen brightness.

Any ideas?

What kind of battery consumption are you getting?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A.J:
i had problem like this when i used wm6.5 but then i flashed Nexus rom on nand and the bettery is good as stand by i leave it for 3 days without charging or some thing like that and every thing is fine ... give it a shoot http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905060
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estugarda:
Thank you for your time and advice. I'll keep it in mind. But for now, I'd like to stick to WM, and solve the drain problem. Android doesn't suite me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A.J:
you welcome man,

hahaha i thought android wouldn't suite me too in the first because im wm freak, but then i found android really good .... if only microsoft didn't stop supporting it :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estugarda:
I'm coming from Android on SE x10 which I have been using for four months. And when I say it doesn't suit me, I'm being very mild.

Anywayz, it's better to stick to the original subject. Another thing just came to my mind. Could an old SIM cause battery drain issues in standby? I have a first generation SIM dating to 1998 or 1999. SIM from last millenium. :)

I read somewhere that old SIMs can cause trouble on modern phones...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A.J:
hahaha i don't know, first time i hear about the SIM and battery thing ... anyway good luck man solving the problem ... and when it solved let me know what was the reason :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estugarda:
Just like I thought, the 12 years old SIM was a problem. Today I got the new SIM, and voila; 4mA on standby, I'm really surprised that nobody thought of this earlier. Not even HTC customer service.

So advice for everyone out there; if your phones have high battery drain on all ROMs/Radios, before anything else, check your SIM. And this applies to all modern phones, not just HD2. I had the same problem with SE X10.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alkis87:
I had the same issue when i used sd card and different android bults even nexu's and I also have a ancient sim.

The drain with the sd was 60mA in standby and more that 200mA with great spikes in normal use.(winmo 6.5 in nand)

Since I made a clean Nand install with NexusGingerbread current in standby is from 4 to 8 mA and in use about 160mA.

So if you ever decide to go in android better have a nand install.

HD2 is a great phone and i think that it is limited with stock os.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dr.Move:
it's a common problem, it happens at random when you use WinMo a bit before running android.

use something like exceller's multi build loader, and set it to auto launch at the desired time (even 10-15 seconds work) and this problem should go away.

I also noticed that my battery consumption goes high on some build when using these apps:

setCPU (I know, strange!)

circle launcher

perfect viewer (sometimes, and only when it's running in the background, an app killer solves this)

I can't think of any other app. so if the above methd doesn't work, try to uninstall these apps if you have them one by one, reboot (turn off then on) after each uninstallation and try the phone for a few hours.

Normally, standby consumption shouldn't be higher than 15 mA/h and most of the time it should be lower than 10.
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
*This is the radio that came in the new update that TMOUS is pushing at this times VIA OTA.

Its really recomended to use it and more if you are running a 2.3.4 ROM like mine.

*Instructions

*Put the radio on you SD card.

*Most be S off and Know the risks.

*Reboot Into Hboot and let it scan The Update

*Accept the update and let it flash. Then Press Power After You Get told to.

*i tested this Radio on my own phone and flashed with no issues. Enjoy

MD5
DB8A0391A476005E78E9E3FDBAD2584D

Link: Here
[HTC Sensation] ragnarokx:
Is an RIL needed if you're on a European ROM?
[HTC Sensation] pr0x2:
The size is exactly the same as the EUR one. Did you check md5 if it's even different?
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
Please post the MD5
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
I dont think so but the Rils will make difference. i flashed on mine but it has US rils. ill upload the new rils in a few..
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
Hey, think you can post the RIL file as well for this radio? Thanks

.edit.

Ok thanks. Just saw your last reply.
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
ehh do you think T-mobile will send us the same radio as the european people?
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
they are in a different format. wait till someone post a deodexed ROM or even my self.
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
Ok thanks. See if this helps my speed. Don't get more than 2Mbps on a good day.
[HTC Sensation] ragnarokx:
Thanks for posting this bosina (I ran out of Thanks for the day :/ )
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
md5's are different. Can't imagine TMO USA would include a Euro radio.
[HTC Sensation] d3vilskid:
The radios the same as the euro, I believe the ril is the same stock tmous ril from the previous radio tho.
[HTC Sensation] Sammydr10:
Another Dominican jejeje :cool:
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Wait...what radio am I using right now if I never changed anything and am using your rom?
[HTC Sensation] Dacoit:
It would be stupid if the radio is the same.
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
Not sure if they really the same. When I flashed the European version I had (10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01) for the version. Now it's (10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M) with this radio.

We everywhere lol.
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
its not the same radios. i checked the thing and thats why i posted. i think i couldnt be wrong would i?, i think a NOOB would undestand that TMOUS will never send a WRONG radio. the EU radio is 3G only, Am i Right?

And yea Jay hehe we around bro
[HTC Sensation] lightninbug:
Still confused here...is this the new US radio or is it the same as EU? And Do we need the new RILS as well?
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
This is the new US radio.

For the RIL I'm using the one here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 matched with the 10.14.xx version.
[HTC Sensation] DroidRC1:
flashed with no issues!! thanks, and I am pretty sure its a different radio
[HTC Sensation] Dacoit:
Im waiting on the RIL too and Jay to update his rom with TMOUS :)
[HTC Sensation] JayBachatero:
Who? Not me right? lol
[HTC Sensation] Dacoit:
made a mistake. I meant bosina
[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
EU radio still gets HSPA+. Just fyi.
[HTC Sensation] piimp:
what do u mean the radio is 3G only. after flashing the new euro radio a few days ago my "4g" speeds went up to 6up...i average mid 5's at any given day/time

seems to me like they are both the same radio
[HTC Sensation] banesi:
of course it's the same radio, what do you think, going to europe your phone will stop worrking?
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
According to adb, after flashing this radio, my current RIL version is: 2.2.0162HMQ. That's the same version for orange, bell , and telus for the 2.3.3 roms.

The radio version is exactly the same however as the euro 2.3.4: 10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
i dont believe in tmos 4g bro
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
There is no radio in the T-Mobile OTA update. It's still just the same stock radio 10.42 the only thing that changed is the RIL
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
really bad reception here in az with the new radio and old ril 169hmq.....
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
Uh that's a newer RIL.
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
its not new its the one they been using for 2.3.4 roms its supposed to be required in 2.3.4 roms ....... i was hoping since we have a new t mobile radio we were also getting a new Ril , but the combination of this radio plus that ril is no good for me here in az , im using Radio 10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15 and Ril HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ and the reception is awesome and speed is excellent,,,,
[HTC Sensation] SpiderVenom:
+1 az reception is horrible. Gonna go back to the previous radio. Not exactly sure which one that was. Can anyone help me out with what it was?
[HTC Sensation] sir*mez:
You already know!
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
wow another one? hehe we here huh
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
i live here in az and i have two combinations that work awesome for me they may work for you depending in your preference ....

#1 Radio 10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15 and Ril HTC-RIL 2.2.0159HMQ.

this one gives u really good reception, good speeds and great batt life.

#2 Radio 10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15 and Ril HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ.

this other one gives u really good reception great speeds but batt life is not as good as the other one (not by much).

the diff is that the first one has good speeds and great batt life.

second one better speeds but not so great in batt life.

hope it helps you..... by the way i tested them on 2.3.4.........
[HTC Sensation] tibere86:
Thanks for posting results of your testing such far gilbert11231123, here are mine:

Location: Philadelphia, PA

#1 Radio 10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M Ril HTC-RIL 2.2.0159HMQ = decent reception, decent speed, and inconsistent data

#2 Radio 10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M Ril HTC-RIL 2.2.0162HMQ = decent reception, decent speed, and solid data connections

#3 Radio 10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M Ril HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ = best reception, fastest speed, and inconsistent data

I will experiment with radio 10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15 and the three above RILs later tonight.
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
What? Not new? Yeah its the newest RIL bud. The radio you have is the same stock radio since day one. It is not a NEWER radio as there wasn't one in the OTA update.
[HTC Sensation] d3vilskid:
the newer radio is 10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M, there is so far not a newer ril in the tmous ota.
[HTC Sensation] BlackVision:
So what is to consensus? People really need to QA/QC their sources before thinking they know what they are talking about. New Radio, new RILs? Same original TMoUS Radio/new RILs? New Radio, same original RIL's? I seen all three of these being told in this thread.
[HTC Sensation] jmcdonald58:
Running the same as you here in Texas and have same results
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
yup correct with this new ota came this new t mobile Radio but no Ril , anyways radios and rils is all about what ever works best for you.....
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
there was a new radio in the ota some people said is the same as this one

10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01 but is not the last ones are OP ,,, and there was no Ril atleast none that i could find, and that Ril you r talking about is not new is the newest but not new its been out since 2.3.4........ anyways hopefully we will get a new Ril for this New radio to give us better reception and speed.....
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
edit 10chars
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
did you check inside firmware.zip inside the ota .zip?
[HTC Sensation] fmedrano1977:
So what's the consensus? New Radio? New Ril? Or both?

Swyped on Tmobile USA Sensation
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
Both 10.56 Radio and 169HMQ RIL
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
I don't know but I'm using the EU gingy radio with the matching RIL and battery life is sweet! Reception and data speeds are also awesome. Ill wait to see where the tmous radio takes us before flashing. I'm a happy camper right now with current setup.
[HTC Sensation] ragnarokx:
Same here. Very happy on the EU radio/RIL.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] fmedrano1977:
Can I have the number versions on both please, so I can try them out? EU gingy doesn't do anything for me.

Swyped on Tmobile USA Sensation
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
10.56 Radio and 169HMQ RIL
[HTC Sensation] mattdub1:
ok, im seriously confused... coming from stock rooted 2.3.3 tmobile... flashing new stock rooted 2.3.4 rom, im assuming i need new radio but do i need a new RIL? please help thanks
[HTC Sensation] Romanbb:
No need for new ril, just radio
[HTC Sensation] mattdub1:
thanks again man, you've been awesome help!!
[HTC Sensation] pjim:
I'm using my phone there's no thank you button. THANK YOU SIR!!!
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
battery dies super fast with new radio :(
[HTC Sensation] Phateless:
I'm on newest radio and first battery cycle with leedroid was terrible but now its pretty good.
[HTC Sensation] twistedvision76:
Just flashed the ROM and its super smooth. Do I need really need to flash the new radio even though I'm getting the same speeds with the old one? Ty and great ROM!
[HTC Sensation] fmedrano1977:
Swyped on Tmobile USA Sensation
[HTC Sensation] kabuk1:
Ditto here, batt life is really atrocious with this radio. I was watching my battery meter literally go down before my eyes all night long.
[HTC Sensation] |Melvin|:
lol i havent notice on mine besides i was in a call and the thing went like from 50 to 12 in less then 30 minutes