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[Atrix 4G General] gravewormx:
You really think 15-20gb is practical use? The motivation for any companies too innovate is not really demand, but competition. Some people demanded more data, what did we get? Tier data plans. Verizon started ramping up its LTE expansion, AT&T goes HOLY S**T! (As proven by the resent leaked document indicating that they are planning on expanding their LTE network to 97% of Americans). And perhpaps you are right, if enought AT&T customers demanded better data plans they might just do it. But then again, if 95% of customers are ok with 2GB of data I really don't see an up rising.

well, 5% of 98 million users is a little less than 5 Million. but we should take into account that not every AT&T customer is on a data plan. So that may take it down about half it's (obviously a guess since last i check less than half the US cell phones are smart phones) so lets say 5% of 49 Million. Thats ~2.5 Million, and for the sake of the argument I'm just gonna say they each use 10GB (although some use much more) that's 25 Million GB compare to 93 Million for the rest. Trust me that 5% makes a big difference.
[Atrix 4G General] LightSwitchTTM:
I personally only use about 100mb per month. I have the 2GB plan. The 2GB's better in the long run though. Because if you have the 200mb plan, and you go over, it's another 15 bucks. So $30 for 400mb, or $25 for 2GB?

And I always have the potential to use ~moar~ since I'm a bit inconsistent when it comes to limiting my data usage.
[Atrix 4G General] xfinrodx:
Unlimited data needs to incorporate a 24 hour tally where if a user exceeds some amount, like 1GB in a day, their speed is simply throttled to 50% (or 2GB / 25%?). No nasty phone calls, no threats to contracts, just simple reasonable intelligent policy. Seems like better PR and more true representation of "unlimited" data than imposing an intangible, abstract monthly data cap.

Sure, this type of plan does instantiate an arbitrary cap- but with it limiting you to 150KB/sec after hitting your 24 hour 1GB, you could still do just shy of 15GB/day with 24 hour pegged bandwidth. Perhaps there could even be a second tier to drop it to 75KB/sec after 5GB/24 hour. That should keep users under 10 gigs per day.

Total data usage over the month is not what should concern carriers. Rate of consumption is the biggest network killer. If I streamed at 20KB/sec for a day straight, do you think AT&T's service would be impacted? I submit to everyone here that no one would be able to tell the difference on their local towers if I were on or not. But guess what? If I continued for a week... then a 30 day month? I just used 50 gigs or MORE of data!

You see, total consumption isn't as important as it seems. Or at least, it shouldn't be. A few users running torrents at 500KB/sec does hurt the local network and those users should probably be throttled somewhat after a while. But the guy who's just running his 15-20KB/sec internet radio station app gets usage abuse notifications in the current rate plan system! :confused: This change or something like it needs to occur.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Only a matter of time before this thread could turn into a flame war...
[Atrix 4G General] ltdanno360:
yea i had t moble b4 i bought my atrix and i had unlimited too but after 5gigs they would slow my speed down so much it would take an hour to download a 10mb file /// so now with at&t i only get 2gigs but i have wifi from the cable company so

as long as im at home im on wifi but it seems strange i still use 1500mb a month
[Atrix 4G General] markh7999:
I average 3gb a month. Thats with no tethering at all, just three email accounts syncing and daily use.
[Atrix 4G General] jeremyshaw:
I use it a LOT and I have serious trouble even getting to 200MB... maybe I'm doing it wrong.
[Atrix 4G General] Mman14:
I use it quite a lot. Tether whenever I feel like it. Stream some youtube. The usual really and I used like 90 MB this month. 3G watchdog estimates a lot more than that though. Something doesn't make sense.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
i've got an unlimited data plan, and i only average about 5-6GB a month. that's with me streaming Pandora pretty much everyday, and watching Netflix movies pretty much every night. plus using my phone as my primary internet browser, since my laptop monitor is giving out on me and i don't feel like replacing it yet =\
[Atrix 4G General] dac1227:
Haha, no I suppose it's not! You make some really good points.
[Atrix 4G General] paravorheim:
I think I've gone over 3 gb once or twice, but having wifi most of the day helps alot.
[Atrix 4G General] ts8801:
remember wifi usage doesnt count towards your data
[Atrix 4G General] gravewormx:
Thanks, and sorry didn't mean to sound like an ass not sure if I did. Just trying to give my perspective on the topic. Hope you understand...
[Atrix 4G General] Simba501:
I've averaged 14-18 GB with no tethering. Just doing typical things, like YouTube, push email, a lot of browsing, Pandora, Ustream (app), etc.
[Atrix 4G General] JaronBang:
On sprint living by myself with no internet/cable my phone was doing EVERYTHING and sometimes would hit 10 gb a month, now I'm on at&t and have only went over my 2gb cap once, averaging 1-1 1/2 a gb a month.

From my AT&T Atrix/CM7-xda premium
[Atrix 4G General] Ciloteille:
I remembered my unlimited data on Verizon I used about 160gb a month for about 4months4 in a row. :o

Now im 2-8 depending
[Atrix 4G General] devilishnight:
Wifi

AT&T sux, they have a cap on their data usage. I gotta be very careful. I do most of my downloading form home.
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
atnt doesn't suck because of a fixed number usage, atnt sucks because the fixed number is too low and their service isn't good enough to justify that number or quality. although i do admit, atnt did some upgrading in houston area recently and get decent off peak speeds and much better reception. peak speeds are still lame. atnt still doesn't invest enough in backhaul. pockets are more important than service.
[Atrix 4G General] akitten007:
I use an average less than 50mb a month. I always have data off to save battery combined with juice defender. I do use +1Gb of wifi data at my house. Go high speed!
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
you don't need a task killer on android anymore. it can be negative against the battery depending how aggressive it is.

1gb plus wifi data at house? i can easily do 10gigs. i find i've been using my atrix a lot more. it usurped my n1 transition much smoother than i thought. and this lapdock is pretty damn cool too. i've hardly used my big daddy laptop since i opened it friday.
[Atrix 4G General] Jotokun:
Juice Defender isnt a task killer afaik. It manages battery life through other settings, like automatically turning off data when not in use, managing screen brightness etc.
[Atrix 4G General] mrphil101:
there was a show on television last week. Across the pond they were forced to open up for competition. They have DOZENS of providers, and they pay $11-$15 dollars a month for compareable service here in the US (they said average US bill was something like $130). When ATT/Verizon was asked to comment, of course they refused on air interviews, but both did send written response saying that would not be good for the american consumers, think they meant american ripoff companies, but thats not what they implied. What a crock. I went over the 4 gig max last month, and will probably do the same this month. It sucks that they tell the consumer what they can use instead of providing service that meets the customers expectations.
[Atrix 4G General] boltcrank25:
I have a grandfathered unlimited plan and I use it a lot.

In Austin I average around 6-7 m/bit download rates and I find I average around 1 gb a day with around 35gb a month.

I run Pandora, Google music beta, and Netflix all the time and also I transfer movies and tv shows from uTorrent remote.

I think you need to be cautious about only having a 2gb plan as with the new uses for android coming out the average data consumed will continue to rise.
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
Wow, more than 20 GB a month, I think I don't consume that much not even at home with all my gadgets! THAT'S A LOT!!!

On my phone, I have a 3 GB data plan and I almost never pass the limit, however I think that 5 GB would be more than enough for me.

And I too use the Lapdock every day!

But when I'm home, I use my WiFi to save some data packets on my plan.

I basically use my setup for:

1. Web browsing (Forums, research, social networking, etc)

2. Youtube (both through the browser and through the YT app)

3. Website management (I design and manage client's websites)

4. FTP (see above)

5. Torrents, however I don't download them directly onto my Atrix since I use a home NAS for that (along with QGetMobile app).

6. Online games (Rainbow Six HD is amazing).

7. Monitor a few home security cameras trough IP Cam Viewer.

8. Music/Video/Picture streaming from my NAS.

Cheers!

Rayan
[Atrix 4G General] t.s.eliot:
It is only the end of discussion if people are using their contracts legitimately. Tethering is not allowed on the unlimited plan, and we even had one poster who was cheerfully bragging of his abuse of terms of service.

I do agree though that if users abide by the terms of their contracts, carriers should abide by the terms of theirs. "Unlimited" does not mean "as much as you want to use until it starts to eat into our profit margins".
[Gen8 General] arpruss:
I don't like backing up with closed source utilities--I want to know what's going on in a backup.

Anyway, here's my backup strategy for my rw rooted A43. I have backup.sh and backup-quick.sh scripts. The backup.sh script is:

mkdir /storage/sdcard/tar-backup 2> /dev/null
/bin/tar -czvpf /storage/sdcard/tar-backup/backup`date +%Y-%m-%d--%H-%M-%S`.tar.gz /data /mnt/secure/asec /mnt/system/unionfs --exclude /data/cache --exclude /data/dalvik-cache --exclude '/data/data/*/cache'

The backup-quick.sh script is;

mkdir /storage/sdcard/tar-backup 2> /dev/null
/bin/tar -czvpf /storage/sdcard/tar-backup/backup-quick-`date +%Y-%m-%d--%H-%M-%S`.tar.gz /data --exclude /data/cache --exclude /data/dalvik-cache --exclude '/data/data/*/cache'

Both scripts back up to an SD card. The differences are that (a) the quick script doesn't back up apps that were moved to external storage--these apps normally survive a "reset android" operation--and that (b) the quick script doesn't backup the unionfs filesystem that makes up the "w" part of the rw root.

The tar binary in /bin that I use is one I compiled myself. You could also get a good busybox that has tar in it.

I can then restore with:

rm -rf data/data data/app
/bin/tar -xzpvf path/to/backupname.tar.gz
reboot

Anyway, I did a full backup. I sent my A43 in for warranty repair. Archos sent me a brand new retail packaged A43. After I rooted that and made sure it had the same firmware version and my custom kernel, the backup restored perfectly and very quickly--all apps, all system settings. (And this was despite some some rather non-standard things that I had done on the old device, like moving some native app libraries from /data/data/app.name/lib to the SD card to save memory and linking them. And all the scripts stored in unionfs nicely restored.)

The only thing I did after that was re-calibrated the touchscreen and accelerometer, since when I restored the backup, it obviously used the old device's settings which I thought might not be exactly right (but they turned out to be close enough).

Oh, and the new device seems to have a touch screen that works much better. Or maybe that's because I'm still keeping the Archos screen protector on, while I used the old device without one? (I just ordered a Skinomi.)
[HTC Sensation] multicrazy125:
Heyy,,as the topic says which is the best custom ROM for Sensation and which ROM has good battery life?
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
You will get flamed for your post. Every rom its unique to its dev. Threads like this create a barrier for devs where one dev will get more quentin than another cuz of a thread like this. I suggest you try out the roms personally and stick to one you yourself prefer
[HTC Sensation] LupusHD2:
my thoughts exactly, plus, have in mind that the very reason for an open source OS, a rooted device, and rom development, is that different people need and want different things out of their device.

cheers.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
It differs even with exactly same install for two different answer. There is no combo that would work the same.
[HTC Sensation] danismit:
Would it be useful to have a thread that posts comparisons for each rom so users can compare key features side-by-side and objectively decide which might suit them best, without having to download and flash every single one?

Things compared could be key distinguishing features, kernels supported, average reported free ram, benchmark scores (controversial I know).

Just a thought :)
[HTC Sensation] Gavros7:
I tried 2-3 roms but atleast i think insertcoin is the best.Very very fast and smooth but best of all the battery life is amazing.
[HTC Sensation] piratashitzu:
+1

I'm still running stock room unrooted, while reading a lot of ROM's threads and posts. Choosing a better battery life rom.
[HTC Sensation] rddocke:
Agreed and I just flashed coredroid 2.3. So far only on complaint battery went down when first flashed.. expected.. but the problem was I plugged in my phone and turn it off then battery would not charge. Too dead to turn on. I got past that and now battery is a lot better have used non stop for about 12 hours and down to 30 percent

Would normally have to charge after about 6 on stock. So no complaints. Also I'm partial to the blue skin
[HTC Sensation] Rhiannon224:
+1 for Coredroid 2.3, although I need to calibrate my battery, I flashed at 60%, when it died, I swapped batteries. So far 41 % left, just over 12 hours with 2+ hours screen on. I get over a day on stock ROM with medium to heavy use on my Anker battery.
[HTC Sensation] Ov3rbyte:
It's not just the rom you run its the custom kernal that helps out. I run Virtuous Inquisition 4.01 and I use the Socali 1.2ghz underclocked kernal for better battery life. Even though I do a lot on it I can manage to get about 20 hours on it, lots more if I don't play videos or music.
[HTC Sensation] SENSATION_XE:
i just tried almost every rom and i made this result:

battery life:

1. opensensation (latest update)

2. android revolution hd 6.6.3

3. OrDroid 2.2.0

[..]

performance

1. android revolution hd 6.6.3

2. hyper slite insertcoin 5.3.0

3. virtous s4v alpha3

this result are totally objective.. it is just my opinion.. i didnt test elegancia rom out because its not my favor :)
[HTC Sensation] nkewk:
when i flash in a ROM i will probably take Revoulution 6.6.3 .. seems really stable..
[HTC Sensation] MisterPlus:
I use ViperS 1.6.3 and BrickedKernel 3.0.36 and the performance is GREAT!!

But it drains battery .... omfg, more than stock

But it's a nice rom and with heavy usage you can use your phone for quite a day... so the balance between battery drain and performance is quite okay, so it is like I think
[HTC Sensation] iEthos:
Guys can u give me LIST of links of all ROMs created for this phine htc sensation?

and all firmwares limks ..thnx ..
[HTC Sensation] vesipyks:
http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112

Here you go! All the roms that are created and published in xda forum.

Now all is left for you to list them in any way that you need. :)
[HTC Sensation] iEthos:
yeah but spreaded onto 100 threads heh..

Sent from LG-E975 (F180L)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -juanito-:
hello

i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it !

GS2

SAMOLED Plus have some bad colors ??

in the future GS2 will get htc Sense 3.0 rom ??

how much avilable of RAM in GS2 ?? i know GS2 have 1GB RAM but how much available for user after using phone like 10 hours ??

anything else ??
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psp888:
Stop filling up this forum with the same old boring question!

Your in a GS2 forum, of course people are gonna say gs2
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frostfree:
Spec wise S2 is better, and general internet reviews suggest it's also the better phone, however there's enough opinions in this and the Sensation's forums to know the pros and cons of each to make up your mind.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -juanito-:
i also put a topic on sensation forum
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
The sensation sucks in comparision,

16gb of space, and the sensation only has about 1gb.

Also, the GS2 screen is simply awesome in comparision to the higher resolution qhd screen. Whilst text will look a 'little bit crisper' - the colours are ****e, and the whole screen has a 'washed out' look.

GS2 has higher HSPDA speeds, has a media player that can actually skip through tracks and a larger battery too.

GS2 is very light and ultra thin, whereas the sensation is built with plastic AND metal - so is thicker and heavier (personal choice)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NIK516:
After owning a htc hd2 and now the gs2 for w months i will say, the build quality of the gs2 is rubbish, gaps near the charging port lets dust in and speaker grill, also the phone for me is to light and tends to want to slip out when using it one handed. Also my device has the os battery bug for some time, it comes and goes randomly.

Sorry to be negative but its better to know the fauilts then to just hear this is the best phone and i love it.

So personaly id go for the sensation and wish i did. Just my opinion
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlevy73:
I own both the Sensation and SGS2, and to put it bluntly, the Sensation is awful compared to the SGS2. I really tried to like the Sensation but it's just a poorly put together device. The Sensation does feel a bit more high quality but really what does that matter when the device your holding is a 2nd rate device. The SGS2 is not without it's flaws but at the moment, bar none, it's the best Android device on the market if not the best device period. You will not regret getting the SGS2 the same cannot be said of the Sensation
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fr3quency:
Ok. Both got 1,2Ghz Dual-core CPU.

Let's see...

Galaxy S 2 scored about 3500 in Quadrant. I know, it's not a big deal, but Sensation scores about 1200?

Well... the difference is.. 2300... That's a lot man.

Plus, the Galaxy S 2, has better CPU. AS for the GPU, I think the Sensation beats it(Adreno 220(Sensation) vs Mali400(S 2))

Ok, the sensation has a qHD resolution, but d'oh. You prefer the qHD res over the super duper amazing extra dynamic colors of the Super Amoled Plus?

I was between those two. Oh, and the S 2 has 250+ more RAM. ;)

And I chose the Galaxy S 2. It's perfect, slim, awesome. ~~
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlevy73:
Have you owned the Sensation because the bugs you reference are minor in comparison to what you have on the Sensation.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlevy73:
The SAMOLED plus is fantastic IMO, I prefer it over the Sensation screen.

Developers are working on Sense 3.0 port for SGS2

Current RAM on my SGS2 = 545MB

Current RAM on my Sensation = 252MB
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlevy73:
And lets not forget the Sensation lags like crazy. My Nexus S was faster than the Sensation
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Galaxy S2 wins on:

Screen Quality (SA+ makes the higher resolution QHD screen look washed out)

Ram: 1GB vs 768mb

Storage: 16gb vs 1gb

Battery: 1650 vs 1540 - Not only does the GS2 include a larger battery, but the super amoled+ screen uses less power than the QHD screen.

HSPDA Speeds: 20.1mbps vs 14.4mbps ( i think )

GS2 wins on Video formats too, the inclusion of divx playback is fantastic.

Front facing camera on the GS2 is better.

Less lag: the sensation just does not operate as fast as the GS2, for what reason - i just dont know.

Quadrant: 3600 vs 1300 (big difference)

Camera: both phones offer 8mp, however the GS2 has a faster shutter speed, smoother action and more camera features. (both offer 1080p recording)

Call quality: both have dual microphones, but the sensation has extremely poor noise cancellation - hence the GS2 win.

Thiness/weight: GS2 is super thin and super light - no contest.

-----

Sensation wins on:

Build quality: plastic and metal is obviously a higher build quality than plastic.

..... Thats it.

Some ppl prefer HTC sense, but since using TW4 - it runs flawlessly for me (unlike TW3) - user preferance.

Not sure if ive missed anything, but sure others will chip in too :)

(it would be better to compare the sensation to the galaxy+ rather than GS2 - yet i feel, the sensation would still lose on many points from above)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
The Sensation's time has come and gone. The Ruby and Holiday already far exceed its specs. Hell, even the E3D has more RAM. The Sensation was evolutionary for HTC while the SGS2 was revolutionary for Samsung. Not that the SGS2 isn't going to be superseded too, but not as dramatically and not as quickly.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intruda119:
HTC is very known for poor audio. Sensation has a very tiny sounding speaker just like the rest of them.

I hate when people are negative about sgs2 build quality. Ive had mine since launch and dropped it over 20 times now and besides a scuff on the bezel the rest of the phone is in great/perfect shape. I will never understand that people complain aobut how light it is when Samsung intended to make it as thin as possible. Any case fixes that issue also.

The Sensation gets dust under screen within a few days. Has the death grip(I think all phones have this) and have touch screen issues and horrible in direct sunlight.

If your getting the unlocked international sgs2, youll know that Samsung is updating the device like crazy. CM7 crew is supporting the device also.

If you happen to not like the sgs2 for any reason, and would rather go for a HTC device. I would advise you to wait until there next big device comes.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nunomeneses:
Well I had Galaxy S2 and at the moment have a sensation. While I had s2 I had 2 issues. Yellowish left side screen only noticeable até gray background and pink spot on photos and i replaced the unit, got rid of yellowish and almost gone pink spot but then had hd video recording frame rate drop at low light conditions... Well i thought, I payed 500 euro for this? So traded with sensation and this is the real thing that happened, even with the new 2.3.4 super fast ROM it doesn't compare with the speed of s2 but ok, is fast enough... Had touch screen issues already not responding to my command and having force closes with everyday apps and even now phone reboots itself when trying to play a game... Also phone calls sound thin and low volume, having a little distortion, audio recording also too thin. Already asked for a replace going back to S2 and pink spot and video problems since the rest just feels quick and perfect...

BUT I love sense, if anyone depends on it, don't go wrong, sensation and sense 3.0 is just so easy and complete, beautiful and with new update 2.3.4 no lag at all! I hope I had HTC build, responsiveness and speed of Samsung and sense... About the screen at the beginning I thought samoled+ was way better but now I think is a matter of taste and what we get used to...

Hope it helps
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ph00ny:
Isn't galaxy plastic shell over metal body? I remember seeing the tear down showing metal skeletal structure