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[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] fcreeves:
I have an official HTC HML Adapter but the first TV I used with HDMI did not work.

It is an old Sanyo with only 1 HDMI Port.

The adapter says HTC EVO 3D and Sensation

The TV out on the same TV works instantly with the Zune RCA (Red-Yellow-White) adapter.

I will try a 27" Asus monitor with 2 HDMI inputs later.

Has anyone had success with their MT4GS and this adapter?

EDIT: No Good with Asus Monitor on either HDMI port.

I have a CECHA01 (750GB) PS3 that was updated to 3.60 with my knowledge. (I'll keep that anger away from this thread)

I will test the DLNA Media Server functionality of the PS3 if someone has not done so?

This is bad news that there is no MHL funcionality. NOT the same as Sensataion! I will have to sell this to one of my friends with Sensation that are running their fancy Custom ROMs while I sit and rot on Stock for the time! Perhaps I have a bad unit right out of the box? It's possible, but I doubt it?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] HeyTao:
Everyone is waiting your further report.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Quoted for truth.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] pmcqueen:
I believe we've already confirmed that the MT4GS, out of the box at least, does not support MHL. can't remember the thread where it was being discussed.

it would seem that it could be possible if you take into account the fact that the innards are the same as the Sensation and E3D, but we might have to dig to get it going. also, apparently some of the early demos of the MT4GS showed off MHL alongside the Sensation which leads me to believe we just need some small tweaks to get it working on the retail units.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] fcreeves:
This leads me to believe we need to donate to some devs to get this device in their hands. I am sick of checking the development thread to see if a there is a ROM available.

Every other device I have had, I always checked to see what was new for flashing. I think the that the timing of the Sensation and MT4GS may be one of the causes of the lack of development:(

What can you do....just wait and see. I have chose to wait vs getting the Sensation, which has not been easy as I have unlocked and flashed everyone in my area who has bought one, while I choose the joystick over screen res?

How much longer will this painful wait be?

Sorry for the rant.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Protricity:
Stock rom does not do TV out at all if you remove the TVOut apk.

Thus it follows that MHL will not work unless the correct MHL apk is present.

I would imagine the next course of action is to determine if the sensation rom contains such an apk while the mytouch does not.

Anyone have a sensation they can look at for us?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] pmcqueen:
I think we're moving along nicely... less than a month since the device's official release and we have perm root & s-off already. rom development will take time. if you're aching for some changes, just head over to the UOT kitchen and have some fun there.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] CB620:
Just purchase a camcorder av cable. You can do tv out that way. Plus its cheaper and quality is the same as a mhl.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
This thread, it has become zombie.

Can we difinitively say this device does not have mhl support at this point, or has someone learned something the rest of us are unaware of?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] verne2k:
no, just no.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
I see that this has not been confirmed in the end, yet i find this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-H...myTouch-4G-Slide-HTC-Doubleshot-/120813304016

What gives?

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well, ive ordered it, so gonna check if it works. :)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Fuzi0719:
Oh! Definitely let us know what happens.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Curious to know what the verdict is - thanks for taking a chance for us!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
Finally seller stepped back, not shipping to hungary.

:( going to look for an alternative way.

sent from HTC Doubleshot pyroiced
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Well, since you are off the hook for the moment:

Does it require specific hardware to operate, or is it just code that matters?

I understand it's not supposed to matter for the connection itself - so using the MicroUSB would work on any device that had it - but is there any hardware that needs to be present within the device itself to make it work?

I think that's what I got from this before - but didn't verify anything or look into it too deeply because of the tv-out over 3.5mm and just wrote it off.

If it does require hardware support to function in some context, maybe we can see if we actually have that hardware in the device before you spend money again.

Or do you not care and just wanna buy and try? Fine either way - just curious?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
Well, the seller stated its compatible for a reason, but might be an error on his side. Also im back at my money, so ill look into this more thoroughly, looking at local stores converters and their compatibility.

But yes, if someone could verify hw specification with htc or tmo that would save time.and yes it needs hw imho.

sent from HTC Doubleshot pyroiced
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
http://ifixsmartphone.com/iphone_repair/MyTouch_4G_Slide_teardown.html

That links to the only known public teardown of this device - it's showing how to replace part of the screen, but you have to take the whole device apart to get to that and pictures were taken at each step.

If we can determine that there is specific hardware needed and what it is, so far this is our best chance to see if it's physically there. (possibly?)

If any other public teardowns are found, definitely post here - and if anyone knows what hardware MHL requires the device to have please post it here so we can look into this.

Don't have the time to look too deep into this tonight, but i'll definitely post anything relevant I can find towards determining whether it's possible or not.

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I just might buy that teardown found here:

http://www.abiresearch.com/research/1009325-HTC+MYTOUCH-4G-SLIDE+phone+teardown

...that _atlien_ posted about here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17482235&postcount=2

I've gone to that page probably once every 2 or 3 weeks since it was posted and thought about buying it, maybe next time but every time I get closer to going for it.

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That aside though, any public resources along these lines anyone has found would be appreciated. I think the idea that it needs hardware makes sense or any device could just do it with the right code - but not sure and could be wrong. We need a conclusive determination on this.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
well,ive found a local store with mhl stuff, i think these are pretty much the same converters. Going to give it a spin with the Sensation based rom and stock.

http://www.delock.de/produkte/suche..._USB_micro-B_Buchse_65314.html?setLanguage=FR
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
Looks like the ds kernel doesnt have a driver for it. Im gonna try to merge a driver to see if its a dormant part or theres no such hw in ds at all.

sent from HTC Doubleshot pyroiced
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
ok. i think MHL is a not going to work, looking and digging for it.

The chip is called 'sii9234' that sensation and shooter (evo3d) seems to have by default in the kernel. Looking for this chip on google related to our device I see nothing relevant...

there would be no sane reason to not include the driver if the chip is on board, that would be like worsening the market position of it. So i wont buy this cable, till someone can confirm that the sii9234 mhl chip is on the board.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
possibly worthless but maybe of some use

http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg42557.html
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
The driver i have, but i dont want to try to merge it till we find out wether this chip is on mt4gs board or not.

The teardown mentioned might help, or contacting htc.

sent from HTC Doubleshot pyroiced
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Operative word is might. Those graphics in the teardown are web sized and the closer you zoom the blurrier it gets.

Unless the chip is very easy to identify, it may not be possible with those graphics. We won't know until we can figure out what it looks like, and then it's hit or miss on if those pictures will be good enough.

I'll call htc and find out when my manufacturer warranties run out on my devices. If i'm getting close on one I might just take it apart and take better pictures - but no promises, I've had to use the warranty on one for something and i'd hate to lose that option if there's still a decent amount of time left.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
ive sent an email to htcdev asking about this. I hope they give a decisive answer. Ive detailed that I know that its not in the kernel released, but want to know if its present dormant or not present at all.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Braccoz:
i bet the chip is not there. it wouldn't make sense for them to put it in and keep it disabled, it would be a waste of money on their part
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
That's makes complete sense.

Still worth trying/confirming either way - either way it's progress ;)

If mhl fails then hopefully the dev can achieve av composite tv-out for ICS.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
:D

Maybe - maybe not. In large scale manufacturing, sometimes it's cheaper to just get something you don't need because the manufacturing line is already set up for it.

The cost of running a new line of 'almost the same', especially if it's competing with something else for that space on the factory floor, could be significantly more then just paying for something you don't want because it's already moving.

It also decreases time to ship, since it's already in a cycle of doing such a thing, and to top it all off you already have the software written to make it work (if it's from the same company)

That last part is important to note in this case, because the Sensation has this capability (right?) and if so and they are essentially the same device with minor differences there's a chance. Everyone keeps saying that the logic boards are the same/very similar. (I haven't looked into the Sensation that closely to tell for sure?)

You never know what could be until you find out - i'll hope for the best until proven otherwise, just rather seek info before laying money down if possible.

Something to consider too - it might have been disabled for this device because it interfered with the tv-out capability we have now, and HTC wanted to see how it played out with basically the same device but two different ways of doing something for market research to future development.

I'd like to know what they say, can't wait until you get a response.

(Edit - sorry, had to step away before I finished my thought, but it may not have been here when I got back unless I clicked save)

Consider the Nook Color - when Barnes and Noble wanted a wifi chip, the best deal they could get was for a chip already on the line that met their specs, but had bluetooth as part of the chip. Barnes and Noble had no plans for bluetooth on the Nook Color.

Their solution? Just ship it without a bluetooth antenna and don't write any software for the bluetooth part of the chip.

I watched the Nook Color community come alive like a shining example of what XDA is capable of. People kept adding pieces of the puzzle together and before you knew it a bunch of people came together and not only got it working, but to the max range you could get without an antenna. You can pair a bluetooth keyboard or any number of other things to the Nook Color in short range, reliably, now.

The idea that a bunch of people will descend on the MHL if capable here in the much smaller MT4GS forums and whip it out before you know it are slim - not enough people have the device and the work isn't spread as thin so takes a bit longer. That's cool though, we're a closer group :D

The chip being on our board is about as likely as it is unlikely in my opinion.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
almost there, got reply, they ask for the Serial number (i think to identify exactly the device type). Giving them. I think we will have an answer soon. :)

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[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
Fingers crossed
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
edit, evasive answer, advising contact htc usa instead :-o i didnt know htcdev is backed by bureaucrats.......

now trying to get a hw engineer email or something like that from them

---------- Post added at 09:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:55 PM ----------

....

"

Thank you for your reply.

Apologies we are unable to provide commercially sensitive information, also the device is network branded so the software could vary due to operator requirements. We are happy to provide support for the bootloader unlocking process should you wish to use it. We are unable to provide detailed information on the hardware specifications.

Thank you for contacting HTC."
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
well, this is a dead end now, ridiculous i think, wtf? :

- htcdev:

"

Thank you for your reply.

Apologies we are unable to provide commercially sensitive information, also the device is network branded so the software could vary due to operator requirements. We are happy to provide support for the bootloader unlocking process should you wish to use it. We are unable to provide detailed information on the hardware specifications.

Thank you for contacting HTC."

me

"Thank you for the fast reply. I was looking for a very specific information, detailing what i'd like to verify. This information could help the custom rom development community at xda developers to squeeze more out of a device that you are selling, strengthening the device position further. Should this be an exceptional case to let this information out, please, contact me with this single piece of information"

htcdev

"	Thank you for you reply. I apologize however we are unable to provide this information as explained previously. I hope that this information meets with your requirements. Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me again.	"
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
Complete W@nkers!

I should receive my replacement housing for the phone (Hong Kong off ebay) probably be a few weeks until I rip the phone apart, but will take detailed pics at the time and holla back ;)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
careful, my friend, tho that would be amazing to have some closeup pictures, but ive read that the lcd panel is easy to be borked...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
I hear you man, thanks ;)

I'm hoping my experience & toolbox used repeatidly in ripping apart my g1 dream will come into use here...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-.../ciAEBhbUdkM/s400/2009-03-28%252007.50.45.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-.../kqO1wbW1oUU/s400/2009-03-28%252007.50.57.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-.../nyQHeSWZr1o/s400/2009-03-28%252007.51.28.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-.../mZnKuaiBipE/s400/2009-03-28%252007.52.04.jpg

Only if I could get my mt4gs to look like my G1 ;)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
Ok, received my housing replacements.

Probably savour for the weekend to rip & stitch the phone into its new shell.... I will take detailed pic & post when done ;)

[* PyroIce ICS on dShot/MT4gS *]
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
Fingers crossed :)

sent from HTC Doubleshot pyroiced
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dillalade:
did the rehouse will post pics of motherboard and other circuit boards soon.

******Edit*****

Not sure if this will work. But its set as a public album https://picasaweb.google.com/104157064045318558040/InsideMt4gs

[* PyroIce ICS on dShot/MT4gS *]
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Nice, beat me to it - my manufacturer warranty expires tomorrow.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Kaczman:
bump. so what is the status on this? does the HML adapter work or no?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
it certainly doesnt work with any roms/kernels as of now. And also these pictures are useful, but chips arent labeled on them, so its very hard to tell if the phone has it. Till someone gets further info from other sources, we are kinda stuck with thinking its not on the mt4gs board.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
messing around with pyramid kernel porting, i can confirm that it's certain that doubleshot doesnt have the MHL tvout chip. (technically in the kernel source its clear that the pmic pin used in pyramid for the mhl chip, is occupied by OJ curcial trackpad device on doubleshot.) So in my opinion it's not a dormant chip we can get alive. PAL/NTSC tvout through jack is our only tvout.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] wjcarpenter:
In this T-Mobile support forum thread (http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/5948), someone claims in November 2011 to have gotten a definitive reply from HTC:

FWIW. I'm not sure what to make of the comment about 3rd party software, unless they are talking about software to help with using the TV-out feature of the headphone jack.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
IMO whoever opened this thread he should update first post and state that

THERE IS NO MHL ADAPTER FOR THIS PHONE!

and mods should close this thread (or somebody please correct me if I'm wrong?)

The subject is misleading

and it is

waste of time to read the entire thread

just to learn what is already well-known from this model's specs posted everywhere.

(unless someone wants to read speculations based on early pre-production sample)

When I was buying my phone I had 3 choices in mind and I looked them up on xda one more time before making decision. I saw this exact thread and I was under impression that MT4GS has Mobile HD Link... until I read the whole thread *after* I already bought it and was home. There is nothing worse than misinformation :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BBLV:
A message popped up from Samsung to install an update (I had been pressing cancel for the past week on this update). It says click OK to reboot and apply update (something along those lines) so I do. Now I am stuck with a tablet that won't boot. If I hold the power button it says "Samsung Galaxy 10.1" after about 12 seconds, but then it goes away and back to darkness. Nothing else. Holding power and volume up does nothing.

Someone know what is going on and have any idea how to resolve?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mughalgxt:
The best way is to restore any backup you have from cwm recovery. Else grab a stock firmware and flash it with ODIN or if zip than CWM recovery. For luck, try clearing cache and data in recovery, first!Perhaps it may work saving you all fuss of flashing a firmware.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BBLV:
I cannot even boot that far too get into recovery. And I just noticed that although I can't boot, the backlight is on (on a solid black screen).... wtf
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xQuestx:
You can't hold volume down and power button to enter recovery?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BBLV:
Nope. I plugged into my computer and for some reason with the USB connectd it let me enter recovery. Flashed a backup and rebooted, but now I have no wifi... im confused.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] manutdawy:
it occured once to me when i tried to overclock, it never worked except when installing a new rom... Try to root the device and then install a new rom
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BBLV:
OK, was a helluva night messing with ROM and kernel installs... I have yet to go back to completely stock (that's next up tonight, unfortunately), but I installed Starburst ROM and the Wifi still didn't work so I then installed pershoot's kernel and now when I boot the screen is extremely distorted kind of like this: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsKa5IoQxnesGdUjykWDDggoQZ38yZ2VXSgPAQ09NOCnETzl9-

As a side note, when I say the wifi is not working, it still shows all networks and allows me to connect just like normal. However when connected no apps can access the network...

Can someone point me to a thread on how to revert EVERYTHING back to stock so I can start fresh? TIA!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] hoodoomagic:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1171089

Should have all the files you need. From where you are now I would flash the stock OTA 3.1 or TW then flash the stock recovery and do a factory reset from that recovery. That should get rid of the garbled screen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BBLV:
Thanks buddy. On my way to grab the files now :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] strung:
I heard the update was pulled as it sometimes rewrites the bootloader improperly. You might need to send it in, unfortunately.
[Fascinate General] jazzyjames:
So I got my wife a phone on wirefly and wirefly's insurance doesn't cover water damage, who do you have for insurance and for how much and what does it cover?
[Fascinate General] tonu42:
I don't think anything will cover water damage.
[Fascinate General] AlgorithmX:
Does it cover loss or theft? Just saying...
[Fascinate General] frosty5689:
Insurance might cost more than getting a new phone FYI.

Also kind of a waste if you don't plan on using the phone 2-3 years from now.
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
I do believe you can put Asurion on the phone. My mom had dropped her old BB Storm in the toilet and Asurion replaced it. The deductable for smartphones is $100 I do believe.
[Fascinate General] kasmanavt:
I'm pretty sure square trade covers water damage. $50 deductible, $100 is insurance cost for 2 years for new phone. I think $150 if phone is older than 30 days.
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
Asurion will cover anything, even your own stupidity. However, the deductible is $100 now for smartphones, and a monthly charge of $7 or so on top of it. You can add insurance to your line for any phone provided it's within so many days of initial activation as well, at least I have done so in the past with phones that were used.
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
Trying to contribute something to the Devs. If you guys would like a customized Logo or wallpaper then lemme know your thoughts and I can try and make something kickass for you.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Justinfedor:
What is the best gingerbread rom out there that has sense.
[HTC Inspire 4G] XAviierG:
Their are no best ROMs. Your best option is to try all of them. Some are RumRunner Coredroid Leedroid etc.
[HTC Inspire 4G] yokozuna82:
VU 1.31 is pretty good... Soon VU will release 2.3.4
[HTC Inspire 4G] Nick281051:
Rumrunner for stockish sense 2.1 and rcmix3d 234 in the desire hd thread for sense 3.0
[HTC Inspire 4G] oxlong27:
whats the over under on this thread being locked tonight?:p
[HTC Inspire 4G] Inarius03:
Try them all out, but most likely Virtuous Unity will be your daily driver.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Hiyabuz:
You can always try out ClearDroid also, his is still in beta only due to the stock WiFi not allowing access but market ones do. It's stable and very much like stock sense that comes with the phone
[HTC Desire S] rel_dude:
Hey all,

I'm a noob so I can't post on the developers' channel, but can anybody tell me if there is any way to get RTL support in Virtuous Unity via patch or addon or anything like that? It's driving me crazy and it's a shame because I absolutely LOVE this ROM!

Any help appreciated.
[HTC Desire S] alexbarel:
RTL

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1249144
[Verizon Droid Charge] elucid:
My phone reboots every time I use firefox to browse

www.worldofwarcraft.com

It is one of the best sites I've found to stress browsers (don't even actual play WOW lol).

Humble 1.51 running non-OC imnuts kernel.

Can anyone else confirm they are seeing the same thing?
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
first of all damn that is a good stress test for a browser lol... I had no problem running it on firefox with 4G or wifi, however it did lag up the phone for a few seconds and cause home screen redraw after I closed the browser. I'm running whats in my sig and using ADW launcher

blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G
[Samsung Mesmerize] mesmerbelly:
I found this didn't figure anything out by myself just thought it might b fun for someone