yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Milestone XT720 General] gu3vara:
Hi,

I recently installed Dexter's rom on my xt720 as I wanted to use the app2sd. All went well except I realized there was less memory available now then before.

About 50 megs only now and I think it was more in the 70 to 80 megs free before.

Is there a better ROM to install or some options I can tweak to make it as fast as it can, I already changed my sdcard to a level 10 one and that alone is a nice start for recording videos but I would like to play games on it and it's not that great right now with this free RAM.

Thx for the help, there is a lot of infos on this site but I'm afraid I need some directions!
[Milestone XT720 General] sohrab.naushad:
Dexters ROM has been known to have RAM issues and with use it will slowly go down even further. There are many newer ROM's available which you could try out. Specifically The Hellmonger XDA special or Mioze7Ae's CM6. If you are a hardcore gamer, which these ROM's you can activate swap and use applications like chainfire 3D which will allow you to play most games you want. If this is what you choose to do, then we will give you more instructions on how to go about it.
[Milestone XT720 General] androidlover123:
If you want probably one of the most stable ROMs in my opinion, then u have to try the Wanhu Epic SteelBlue. AFAIK, it has no memory issues and plays games smoothly with rare force closes and till today no random reboots. it supports app2ext and link2sd if im not wrong. Hope that helps!
[Milestone XT720 General] gu3vara:
I finally went with the MiuiXt_Final_V2 and it's running much better, with plenty of ram available.

Three questions though : I have no sound when recording a video, is it normal and is there a fix?

The swap works fine, but do I have to fastboot the phone every time I reboot it, using my computer and all?

I'm starting to figure how things work....!

Thx :)
[Milestone XT720 General] sohrab.naushad:
Thats great. MIUI is supposedly the fastest ROM along with CM6 and it does have alot of cool features. I haven't used it since the beta phase, and I believe the stock moto camera application was ported to the phone so you shouldnt be having any trouble with the sound. It would make more sense if you ask on the MIUI thread as people who use it will guide you better with the quirks on that ROM.

Unfortunately yes you have to fastboot everytime the phone reboots. The reason for this is swap uses a custom kernel. The kernel is that peice of computer language which communicates between your hardware and software. Our phone has a locked bootloader which inturn prevents us from flashing kernels besides the official motorola one. I do however know on the MIUI rom there is a quick reboot option which people use which keeps the kernel loaded. You can use that when you need to reboot.
[Milestone XT720 General] gu3vara:
I found the quick reboot function, thx!

I have no problem with sound when recording anymore, don't know why it failed the first time I tried it :confused:

This rom is much more stable than dexter's version, really glad I installed it.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Article seems to make a good case:

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Google-Could-Get-a-Chance-to-Buy-TMobile-After-It-Closes-Motorola-Deal-220504/
[HTC Sensation] Behold_this:
Umm...yeah...too late on that one, AT&T is in the process right now of buying tmobile. They made an offer and tmobile accepted it. It's going through federal review now and the deal WILL be approved by the feds.
[HTC Sensation] AZ2ENVY:
That would be awesome ! I hope it works out !
[HTC Sensation] Dano79:
I already seen a att/t-mobile commercial the other night on the tv. I just wonder if their gonna jack up our bills I switched from the big V for a cheaper bill
[HTC Sensation] jdep1:
Same here I don't like at&t and it looks like tmobile is converting to at&t in a sneaky way like there gona start charging if you go over your "unlimited" throttled 2gs of data just like at&t is doing. (dont worry we will be in the grandfather plans but watch out wen you do uprgrades & so on..
[HTC Sensation] Xx12thANG3LxX:
My advice is get on a 2 year with t-mobile now so they cant jack the price up on you when they merge. We have a long while before this fully happens tho.

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
I wish it was Google, but unfortunately it's big wig at&t!
[HTC Sensation] bwstonemd84:
Look at Google to purchase sprint as the attmob merger will devalue sprint. Which Google will scoop up for a value. The sprint google intergration is not without any coincidence just wait till next year you will see. Sprint sits on a lot of spectrum and with LTE and Wimax their footprint will be one of a kind in the US. Yes Google is a global company but sprint would be a stepping stone to bigger things. Sprint cannot survive on its own.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
It's too late I think. It sucks cause it would have been awesome.
[HTC Sensation] GiZZy:
I wish this was true, Google, Google Voice, T-Mobile sounds great... too bad its not going to happen. AT&T is already too far through with buying T-Mobile

Unless Google manages to buy AT&T ... which would be even better but never going to happen
[HTC Sensation] joser24:
i would hope google says they would pay more $! and att backs off.

i hate att
[HTC Sensation] redbullcat:
I'm not from the US, so apologies if I get some of this post confused :)

Am I right in saying that Google Voice (that we don't have in Britain, sadly) and Sprint are in a partnership? Would this mean that Google are *more* likely to team up or buy Sprint fully, than to buy T-Mobile US?

Fan speculation and fan hope here :)

The way I see it, Google could become what I call a 'digital carrier', making their own devices and carrying them on their own carrier. I see Google Voice as the first step of this. They'd be the first 'carrier' to go the world over and if they get it right, could completely dominate the information, mobile, and computing (with ChromeOS) space.

Think about it: how a carrier works hasn't changed since mobiles were introduced, really. They've always been the same. With Google Voice, Google have the possibility to change that and make themselves a carrier (possibly with Sprint's help) and carry their own devices, made by Motorola. This would enable them to update the devices (all running stock Android, or maybe different interfaces depending on high up the device is) all at the same time, wirelessly, and get fragmentation (which exists, however many times we say it doesn't) down to an absolute minimum. They could also manage the device's hardware easier, using one chip/SoC for one generation of phone, optimizing the OS for that chip. i.e. NVidia Tegra, a TI chip, or a Qualcomm chip.

Thoughts on this...?
[HTC Sensation] colorcopies:
According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
This is correct.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
You have a link to that regulation? I presume that came into effect some time after Ma Bell used to make and sell telephones.

I trust you, I just like to verify. :)
[HTC Sensation] newter55:
Reaganesque
[HTC Sensation] RevenG:
You can't say for sure. AT&T has been on the hot seat with the FCC before. Look at when they made them split. They are slowly trying to build up the monopoly again. I honestly don't think the deal would go through. There is too much opposition, including state governments. Plus their legal team made a big no no and accidentally submitted some paperwork to the FCC that hurt their argument.
[HTC Sensation] Lord60:
the merge with AT&T is under review by the FCC. we all know this. It must pass the FCC's examination to ensure things like antitrust, monopoly etc don't occur as a result of the merge... basically to say that all things merger specific are legal.

It's looking like it will be and the merge will go through, but there's always a chance that something (i'm still praying for it) will stop the merge. in that case, then google can offer to buy and in that case an FCC approval doesn't seem to be required since google is not a communications company like AT&T. I just got laid off in a merger just like that between two smaller Cell phone companies... I've renewed a 2 year contract to avoid AT&T screwing me if/when they merge...

I've purposely avoided AT&T for all these years only to find myself faced with being their customer after all. it blows. I prefer google.:mad:
[HTC Sensation] nraudigy2:
A&TT is bad imo. They already capping the 150GB on DSL. Who knows what they will do next.
[HTC Sensation] getrdy:
G-Mobile? LOL
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
no! this will not be happening
[HTC Sensation] mrbkkt1:
Only reason I got locked in now, and got a sensation. Otherwise, I would have bought a nexus prime for retail. If your not under contract, att can say tough it for you and make you resign a new att contract.

They are buying tmo for bandwidth , not customers.
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
Thats what they are saying.... but really, you don't think they are going to pass up ALL THAT EXTRA REVINUE? do you?

we don't always mean what we say. I think they want the whole pie.

as for the PRIME, yeah, I'll get that too. and then the next badass phone after that, as he cycle continues. Buy, sell, trade...
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
They can not under any guise make you sign another contract that supersedes the one you are currently fulfilling. Even afterwards once it expires they can not.

I work for AT&T now and we still have elderly people on Cingular plans with Old phones who never renewed.

Only way they can stick you is if you want a new phone for a subsidized price. Otherwise you're good eith whatever plan you came in with during the acquisition.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Forcing a phone swap, for something "comparable", due to network incompatibility has been stated. I understand that's not a contract pricing change, but being forced to trade in my Sensation for something unknown isn't appealing.
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
That legally can not happen. Besides.. Your Sensation would work 2yrs from now. Just won't use the new network. It won't be useless.
[HTC Sensation] darkburst1991:
doubt it. 10 char
[Defy General] syl0n:
I have this version which I can't seem to find as a SBF anywhere on the internet

Version.34.0.179.MB525.T-mobile.en.US

android 2.2.2

baseband EPU93_U_00.58.00

So how will I back up this ROM as a SBF before going to CyanogenMod?

Can I install nordic on top of this?
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
You don't have to worry about using the american sbf... The nordic will work fine... Just make sure you use the base band switcher to apply an american base band when you are finally in cm7.

I wouldn't bother making a recovery of your system now...

When you get into

Cm7rc1v2, you will love it..

Go ahead and flash the nordic, root with soc, and use second init to boot into recovery, so you can install cm7rc1v2.

It's all up on that first post.. Good luck
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Feel free to lmk if you have any questions along the way... And, if you really want that american sbf... I can get you a link... Though, it will be wasted effort, as I know you will love gb better.
[Defy General] syl0n:
Thanks. I followed the guide and flashed CM7. But now I have an issue with GPS. I get absolutely no satellites. I have got GPS Status and have reset the state and downloaded AGPS data but not a single satellite is visible :|
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Maybe flash back to the nordic, try and user the gps, then go back to cm7...

I heard someone say to do that about the camera, maybe it will work with the gps...

I personally haven't had any issues with either..

Another thing you can try, (which may or may not help, it's to flash the cm7 zip twice in a row... Maybe it will help to write[the data more...

Strange, my gps works fine.. where are you located?QUOTE=syl0n;16763563]Thanks. I followed the guide and flashed CM7. But now I have an issue with GPS. I get absolutely no satellites. I have got GPS Status and have reset the state and downloaded AGPS data but not a single satellite is visible :|[/QUOTE]
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
This may be a silky question, but you are outdoors while trying to lock on satellites?

You should shoot for clear sky view, and depending on your location, it may take anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes to get locked..
[Defy General] syl0n:
I am now seeing 1 or 2 satellites at most. Could it be that I have faulty hardware?
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Possibly...

I suppose it acts flaky in stock 2.2 also?

Btw, what are you using to get how many satellites you are locked on?

Edit:

Nevins.. I got something called gps status and test.. I'll tinker with that and see what I get as normal

Triple edit:)

Okay, I had about seven satellites after about five minutes of playing around.

You may just have a tough time in your area locking on?.?.
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Check this out, found it on the other topic..

"13) How can I make GPS work better (be more fast and precise)?

- Make a backup of your /etc/gps.conf (use a file manager to rename or copy to another place)

- Visit this thread

- Click in the link "XDA Members Click Here" at the final of the post, and search for the correct .zip for your country

- Copy the .zip to your SD Card and reboot in Bootmenu, then flash the zip via Custom Recovery"
[Defy General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Any updates mate?
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
If you are on ee4 with lagfix enabled you can skip to step 2

1. Download GummyCharged FE 1.9.1 full Odin (yes the froyo version) and flash that via Odin

2. Ensure lagfix is enabled via voodoo controls or term (if it is not use voodoo control to enable lagfix)

3. Download the EP1Q radio's and flash them via Odin

4. Download GummyCharged GBE 1.9RC2.3 and install it via CWM (make sure you wipe data)
[Verizon Droid Charge] ijustdontcare:
Awesome will give this a go for sure!

Sent from my SCH-I510 using

GummyCharged 1.9rc1
[Verizon Droid Charge] wrarvoz:
Flashed this last night and used it all day today. It's lightning fast and flawless!
[Verizon Droid Charge] Schultz.y:
I'm a little confused.

So I'm on currently on GummyCharged 1.9RC1 without Voodoo installed. It's not disabled, it's just not even installed. When upgrading to 1.9RC2, does it already come with Voodoo or EXT4 file system? Or it just supports it now?

So bottom line, after flashing RC2 do I need to flash either Voodoo or Nameless?
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
no it just supports it, it will not convert to ext4 for you so you need to follow the steps he listed to get it...

edit: also do not flash anything voodoo over this, only froyo kernels are voodoo'd...
[Verizon Droid Charge] airball8:
much thanks kejar...tried to donate but your link is broken.

cheers.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ChadZ:
I did this but I'm still facing serious lag
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
Thanks for the heads up... It should be working now :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] tdenton1138:
Currently on RC1. Executing this procedure as we speak. Just flashed FE 1.9.1. I presume when I go into voodoo control, I should convert partitions and system as well... I hope so. That's what I'm about to do.

Well, got it all done. Wow GBE 1.9RC2.3 flashed fast in cwm... Here goes the first full boot. Fingers crossed.

Sweet. It looks like it worked! Voodoo Control does not report, but doing a 'mount' in terminal showed data, dbdata, cache and system are all ext4.

You guys (Kejar, Imnuts and TeamGummy) are AMAZING!

Now rocking Ginger 2.3.4 via GummyCharged 1.9RC2.3 with lagfix enabled.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ChadZ:
I tried doing this again and I get this error in ODIN 1.8.2

<ID:0/011> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/011> boot.bin

<ID:0/011>

<ID:0/011> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

<ID:0/011> Removed!!
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
I'm gonna assume you odined FE 1.9.1 which means it included a voodoo kernel and should've already converted your partitions on boot...
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
Strange, I nor has anyone else had lag with or without EXT4 on EP1Q.... Are sure you are not having other issues?
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
When you tried to flash via Odin... Did you put the battery back in before flashing? If not try that.
[Verizon Droid Charge] tdenton1138:
Yes, FE 1.9.1 converted my partitions (cache, data and dbdata), but not system. That required a setting in Voodoo Control and a reboot for it to do its thing. Now all 3 partitions plus system are ext4!

Currently doing a TiBu restore. Then we'll play with it and see what's what. I never had any real lag to speak of on rfs with Gingerbread, so I'm assuming this should just make the butter even smoother.
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
nice... yeah plain stock GB is pretty nice (except for the poop/GB mix theme), ext4 and kejars rom make it better :cool:
[Verizon Droid Charge] thatkidmatt:
Good stuff man! Thanks!
[Verizon Droid Charge] salvazza:
Success!

Just finished flashing this.

Quadrant Score on 1.9RC1 (rfs) was 1373

Quadrant Score on 1.9RC2.3 (ext4) is 1586

Still on first boot on RC2.3

(yes, i know quadrant scores aren't everything)

I'm also noticing much faster app install/move to sd.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ChadZ:
How can I check if I'm on ext or not?
[Verizon Droid Charge] tdenton1138:
I forgot to check quadrant before flashing (stupid me), but after, my first score is 1387 after restoring apps on 2nd boot. Not great, but there's so much variability in that test. I'm currently moving the majority of my apps to SD card - so far the moving doesn't seem all that much faster to me. We'll try again once I move everything and reboot.

edit: Using TiBu for moving apps is like molasses for me... 10 minutes to move 26/104 apps and counting

edit: 25 minutes and at 62/104... whoa
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
if you're only hitting 1300-1400 (gotta do it a few times to get an average) then you're not ext4, you'd notice a pretty big difference in moving/restoring apps as well plus be hitting 1600+ on quadrant... if you wanna check that you are ext4'd properly open terminal on your phone then type 'su' and enter, grant permissions then type 'mount' and enter... there will probably be a jumbled bunch of lines but look for /data, /dbdata, /system, and /cache (I think those are the ones) and right after it should say 'ext4'
[Verizon Droid Charge] chessmaster W/nook:
I had the same stuck at eye, but I am still Ext4. Hmmm...
[Verizon Droid Charge] BillLee3:
I had problems with a long first boot as well. Finally pulled the battery and it acted a bit strange but every thing is working fine now.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BillLee3:
I'm up and running fine. Full TB restore from RC1 and everything works fast. 1600 quadrants. Do I understand that booting to recovery will screw it all up?

BTW, could I possibly request the devs consider pulling the car dock and sub'ing Google car dock? I change that out on each new	ROM..
[Verizon Droid Charge] chessmaster W/nook:
Going into CWM will be a fast and easy way to wipe your phone.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ddemlong:
Yeah I just read on Androidcentral.com that the CWM program is wiping phones and restoring everything back to an rfs file system. I just checked and I am still on ETX4... so looks like i'll stay out of cwm until there is a fix or a new flash.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ddemlong:
Hmm, when I went in and looked I didnt see anything listed as rfs. I still am hitting about 1700 quadrant, but I did just read the CWM is reverting peoples phone to rfs and wiping data. I haven't gone into CWM since I flashed and installed the zip, so I guess if I just stay out of there for now I'll be fine.

Then again, it is only EARLY release. :rolleyes: I still think even though its pretty smooth with good features.

I just really want GC 2.0.... LETS GO DEV TEAM STOP WITH THE TEASING
[Verizon Droid Charge] ddemlong:
All going good right now... lil over 2 hours and i'm only down 2%...

who am i kidding 15 hours and only 2% dang this new ROM is efficient lol
[Verizon Droid Charge] timedroid:
Does the GummyCharge ODIN not install EXT4 filesystems?
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
Not for Ginger Bread. Hence the topic. Lol.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ddemlong:
I flashed the 1.9.1RC with the imoseyon 13.3 prior to the 2.3 release.
[Verizon Droid Charge] timedroid:
Is there a reason it's not ext4? Like, does Odin not restore the files if they're not rfs?
[Verizon Droid Charge] chessmaster W/nook:
OH MY GOD THAT WAS PAINFUL. If you are talking on the phone and plug in your phone, the most horrible white noise goes on for about 5 seconds, but by then you've probably unplugged your phone, that's a bug that should be fixed.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
Since GB is still just a leak, there's no kernel source provided by Samsung. Everything that's GB right now is only here because of leaks and the hard work of devs.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hockeybpr25:
Wow and I thought my battery life was good. I got two days with mine how did you get yours to last that long?
[Verizon Droid Charge] ddemlong:
No bud the top post about the percentage was the real one. That is a fluke since the flash. However as of now im down 5% after lil over 2 hours off charger with light use.
[Verizon Droid Charge] chiahead52:
looks like he plugged the charger in..you can see it in the bar graph above the numbers?
[Verizon Droid Charge] laughingmom:
So, I am running:

HumbleComb 1.51 with imoseyon's 13.3 kernel

I have confirmed EXT4 for all (system, cache, data, dbdata)

And I already have the EP1Q radios.

At this point is it safe to simply flash GummyCharged GBE 1.9RC2.3 via CWM? (After wiping, of course.)

Thanks, just feel the need to double check.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
Yes. You should be good to go. Wipe data first, of course.
[Verizon Droid Charge] thelandon:
I followed the steps in the OP exactly (twice) and am now stuck at the boot image (droid eye) for the 2nd time.

What are you guys doing to make this thing boot/work correctly?
[Verizon Droid Charge] thelandon:
Nevermind... it's amazing what a thread search will do! :p I pulled the battery, and it boot fine soon after that.
[Verizon Droid Charge] d-loko:
I just came from pretty much the same setup. Couldn't resist since it was so effortless. Just be careful not to boot into recovery again post flash due to the cwm wipe bug. Oh and do a battery pull on the first bootup or you'll be waiting on the bootscreen eye forever. Enjoy.
[Verizon Droid Charge] thewanton:
Finally got everything working after attempt three. However, my when clicking display or sound in settings, it force closes. I can change my volume in audio manager but its there since way I can turn off auto brightness from another app?
[Verizon Droid Charge] thewanton:
Never mind, should have searched before asking, haha.
[Verizon Droid Charge] stueycaster:
Launcher Pro?

Before I switched to EP1Q I was using the Launcher Pro paid version. So naturally I set it up on my new rom. What I'm wondering is would the stock launcher be faster? If it's better to keep using Launcher Pro is there any way I can get rid of all but one of the stock homescreens? I didn't see one in settings but then I could have missed it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] NotATreoFan:
I use LauncherPro Plus, and I find this ROM to be obscenely fast. No homescreen redraws like I've been seeing on stock debloated.
[Verizon Droid Charge] TSAElement:
I might have missed this, didn't see anything and a keyword search didnt yield any results. Kejar could you possibly update the CWM that loads with this? 4.0.0.8 has the /system mount issue on restore.

Edit: I guess this should probably be posted to the GummyCharge FE 1.9.1 thread as it is the Odin.
[Verizon Droid Charge] chessmaster W/nook:
If I were you, I wouldn't go into CWM at all now, because when you go in it wipes your data.