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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sid3091:
dinc3, which should have dual core. Or i may jump ship to motorola.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJGO23:
If the Vigor lives up to it's rumored specs, then I'll probably go with that or the Nexus Prime if it comes to Verizon. The selection of Verizon phones right now isn't really anything to rave about. The devices themselves, not including their dev community, are marginal upgrades from the OG Dinc. The Dinc 2 and the TBolt launched with froyo, instead of GB and they don't have the latest version of sense. I know roms change that, but from your average consumer stand point, the only upgrades from the OG Dinc are a bigger screen and more memory. There aren't dual core processors or qHD screens or anything else that really makes the Dinc 2 or the TBolt worthy upgrades to keep for 20+ months. They're ok devices if you were to get them free right now to hold you over until around Christmas when more worthy upgrades come out.... Now where's the TBolt douche guy to come bash me and tell me how the Dinc 2 and TBolt are the best devices ever and nothing will compare?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GatorsUF:
Nexus Prime - Yes Please!

Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich (stock), Dual Core, 4GLTE, 4.5" screen

Easy choice

Edit: The poster above is crazy...that is all
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
You buy cars because they have shiny paint, don't you?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikedunks:
...something HTC dual core
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Troy89:
If I am able to update by the end of this year it would be between the iPhone 5 and a dual core HTC device that comes out with the latest update. Personally I would rather have the least amount of buttons possible (Ice Cream), a 3.5-4in screen, and good battery life. Also if it is any other android device I wanna know how long I can expect to receive updates, hopefully anywhere between 1 1/2 yrs to 2yrs.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJGO23:
It's funny how you consider yourself the Tbolt douche guy... If LTE is really a big deal to someone and they really want those speeds without getting a Tbolt they'd get a hotspot, I know it's not the same thing, but if they need it so bad or else they'll die without it, then that's an option. You obviously didn't read when I said "from an average consumer point of view" meaning someone who has never heard of rooting or custom roms, so yes, stock, the Tbolt was outdated before it even launched. Yes, I know it has a newer CPU/GPU, but what's the point if the software is over a year old? It also seems that you have forgotten about the data outage almost right after the TBolt had launched, I know it was a short amount of time, but who will gurantee that Verizon's network won't become overcrowded like ATT's. I know that LTE was introduced to help ease 3G traffic, but there will be a point where the same thing will happen. The OP asked what I would probably replace my Dinc with and I said the Vigor. Why? It is imo what I am looking for a phone in this day and age, and it will be released around the time I plan on upgrading. You assumed I would wait if asked what I would get today, and no I would go with the Droid Charge. You can say what you want and how the Tbolt is superior, but out of the two, I prefer the Charge's display and it also has LTE which is pretty much the only appealing thing in the Tbolt to me.... That is unless somehow LTE runs better on the Tbolt... And it's funny you assumed I'm a redneck when I'm actually of Hispanic descent.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
let me correct this first of all no one wants to read novels on xda that is what you have done above a simple yes it has an upgrade gpu cpu would have done great..second the Tbolt is not the "best phone ever to date" the Evo 3d and htc sensation are the best phones to date..i get 30+ hrs on my evo 3d stock sensation probably gets about the same both are on 4g networks i agree with your point about 4g lte being better..if the thunderbolt was the best phone to date it would be htc flagship phone which it is not..and many other factors go into this blah blah blah........
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJGO23:
I really want to see him argue with a dev now...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithrewitontheground:
Sure, the Thunderbolt is an upgrade from the Incredible, but is it the best phone to date? Not by a long shot. SGS2 beats it on SAMOLED+ screen, dual core processor and camera. Droid charge beats it on GPU and SAMOLED+ screen. EVO3D, Sensation, G2X and MyTouch Slide beat it on numerous points as well. Just because you own a device and think it's the best ever doesn't make it the best ever.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
Its like this guy comes in here bashing a phone that we still love, that he used to love but moved on to something he thinks is a better thing.. Then he plays salesman and tries to get us to give up what we know is worth holding onto for something that has already been surpassed technologically.. Just admit that you should have never given up on the Dinc and lets move on.

Oh, and stop bashing everyone else because they don't happen to agree with your opinions (which you obviously treat as facts).
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DizzyFox:
Nexus Prime. If Verizon is Smart enough to carry this phone. If not. For the first time in 10 years I may just move on to a carrier that brings the best to their customers
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
i doubt anyone on the thunderbolt running a sense 3 rom will ever see this..This goes higher when running AOSP Roms.....a screenshot of my evo 3d
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjcarter1254:
Lucky........
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
Good God this is like talking to furniture....

Welcome to reality! At least we're talking about phones that actually exist!

Dual core chips are spiffy. If I have a hoot about an AMOLED, I'd have gotten a Charge, but I don't. What I DO care about is what the phone will actually do. The screen is great, but not a visually orgasmic experience. The camera is great, but it's the same thing the dInc uses. Dual cores are nice, but what the hell do you do with that kind of processing power on 3G? What it does do better than all others is data. Of all the phones you just mentioned, NONE do EVDO data and voice concurrently. Not even all LTE devices do voice/LTE concurrently.

The dInc clearly did more than the 3G supported. Maybe I'm alone in this, and what everyone else wants is an amazing PDA with limited connectivity, but I use every ounce of speed I can get. And the speed of my connection determines how useful a device is. Not the screen. Not the cores. Not the camera. If I'm getting bumped off downloads to take a call, that blows. If I gotta blow off a call to finish a download, that blows too. And if it takes me 20+ minutes to download a ROM or 40 to download a movie, that's a real pain in my ass. I pull down a ROM in under 2 minutes. A 1gig movie... that's about 8 minutes. When you can download a gig that fast, you WILL be looking at your phone differently and you WILL be using it a bit differently. That's how I measure an upgrade. If I had an EVO 3D, I'd be doing the same crap just as slow as I did on my dInc. It's just my opinion, but it's a popular one; LTE is FAR more of a game changer than a pretty screen, a camera or an extra core.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJGO23:
Devices that actually exist?! All those mentioned by the guy you quoted are out, and have been out for a while. And you can't compare networks evenly because LTE is still rolling out and is only half of what Verizon's 3G network is. Now you may have LTE everywhere you go, and that's fine and dandy for you, but for the rest of us hick Dinc owners LTE isn't available everywhere. Now if LTE is what makes the Tbolt the greatest device on Verizon ever to date, then yes, it is a marginal update from the Dinc. Comparing apples to apples, a Tbolt on 3G and a Dinc, speeds might slightly differ depending on location and blah blah blah, so the hardware is only slightly better because, stock, that is unrooted, the software is almost the same.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigsapz:
The Vigor or whatever they rename it. Only device on the horizon worth considering. Og DInc is pretty badass

Sent from my 2.3.5 Incredible Obsession
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GatorsUF:
Hi my name is Coffee Table,

I do buy cars because the paint is shiny...seems me and you have the same issue. You bought a Tbolt because it was the FIRST 4GLTE smartphone on Verizon...whereas I have been hanging onto my Dinc until something worth getting came out. What do we do with that processing power? Well in theory it should produce much better battery life as the processer isn't working overtime to complete simple tasks...OH and it runs ICS. BTW you should probably go put your phone on the charger soon its almost 10am. I think the charger is right next to me (remember I'm the coffee table).
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJGO23:
Lol... Watch out he might get his dad with a Ph.D. to school you or you might get a PM about how your a dumb hick who is too stupid to know what a phone is.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleepy-T:
Another victim of the Incredible 4G LTE uncertainty. Just went ahead and pre-ordered the SIII - Pebble Blue 16G. Another 'unlimited' customer can sleep with peace of mind again.

Hate leaving HTC though.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrJESUSatWork:
I've grown so used to this dinc, and it has been very reliable thus far. I was considering the dinc 4g, but I prefer amoled over LCD... So leaving towards gs3
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sydewayz:
Been waiting for another Verizon installment in the Galaxy S series since the fascinate (which I missed due to my o so lovely dinc). I've always been HTC since the MDA days, but I think its time to give sammy a chance.

All over the GSIII. God the 7th cannot arrive any sooner.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
They moved the tentative release of the GS III to the 10th, it was announced sometime middle of last week. I went ahead and ordered the Rezound as I really don't like Samsung phones, much prefer HTC and this is the best they got right now on Verizon. Oh and the GS III is going to be a monster, I saw an ad for the One X where a guy is jogging with it and it is huge, barely fits his hand and the GS III is even bigger.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrJESUSatWork:
rezound has a nice screen, but a last-gen CPU. Way slower than the s4 -.-
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sydewayz:
I don't know about that, I've held/played with the One X and I didn't think it was too big. It's smaller than the Galaxy Nexus (thickness) and since I was about a week away from settling for the nexus, the s3 totally works for me. If the incredible LTE comes out and is that much better, then meh, so is life, pay to play. I like my phones in white anyway :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
You'll never notice the difference in speed, and don't start quoting bench tests as we all know they are not accurate in phones. Its all just a matter of perception. The S4 in theory should have better battery life and lower temps but that still remains to be seen. And in 6 mos the S4 will be last gen same as the S3 so its all relevant as Qualcomm is working on a quad LTE processor which should be out by the end of the year. You're better off buying a phone you like instead of chasing after specs and I like the Rezound. Its got the right size screen, good development community, fair price and its HTC, which is what I want.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrJESUSatWork:
Your purchase, dude. But there have been comparisons made between the one x/s3/gnex.. Apparently the last gen phones have much more noticeable lag compared to the ones just being released now. And the cpu performance difference between the dinc and rezound is the same as between rezound and one x/dinc 4g..in another two years, I could see the latest gen phones still holding up fine while the rezound/razr start to struggle
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
Did I forget to mention I got the Rezound for $80? For me price trumps cutting edge every day.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooofest:
I preordered two Samsung Galaxy S III phones (one blue, one white) to replace my Incredible and her Incredible 2.

My Incredible was beyond its two year mark and has a h/w issue causing reboots during certain operations, so I was due for a phone anyway. Her Incredible 2 wasn't up for a discount until next year, so I transferred the upgrade from our basic phone on the account and was able to get the discount rates.

This staves off losing our unlimited data plans for at least a year beyond what we expected (i.e., no upgrading her Incredible 2 next year) due to ordering before June 28th, and moves us up to 4G in the process. The difference in cost vs. new family data sharing rates and monthly phone charges easily exceeds the cost of upgrading her phone a year early.

We really enjoyed our Incredibles, though - I was willing to stay on my rooted Incredible with jermaine151's Insensitive Minimalist for even longer, but the phone had a recurring bug that caused unexpected reboots at the worst times under every ROM it has ever run . . . so, it eventually needed a replacement.

- ooofest
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrJESUSatWork:
Gs3 seems the way to go, I'm sure I'll get used to the size in time. maybe RAZR HD, if it comes out soon.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmac720:
you've gotta tell me what site you got that deal. unless it was cragslist. dont wanna f$% with that.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
Right off Verizon Wireless's website. I can't order from anyone except them as they are giving me an early early upgrade (3 weeks before my official early upgrade date) so I can keep unlimited data.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JermsMalibu:
I've ordered a Galaxy SIII in blue. There aren't any phones out that I want currently and I've been more than happy with my Dinc (yay for custom ROMs and kernels), but Verizon is forcing my hand if I want to keep unlimited data...so SGSIII it is. It'll take a good bit of time to get used to that size...way bigger than I want, but it's got a decent processor, 720p, and LTE. I'd prefer a 4.3ish inch screen size though. I just want a bit bigger than the Dinc's screen...not over an inch. But hey, whatcha gonna do. <shrug> Anywho, it seems like I'll be seeing a lot of you over in that section of the forums in a bit.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmac720:
point is a bit moot but i get at what you're saying.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gorilla*:
IM in a pickle.. I wanna use my upgrade before the 28th to keep my unlimited data,, But the only phone i want is the Gs3 and the Rezound..

Problem with both is..

Rezound is kinda old now... and its still 110.00 with upgrade fee.

gs3 is 230.00 but, ive always had terrible luck with Samsung radios being weak, and terrible for data and RF.

The other problem is I have no extra cash to throw at the problem... So, in theory the only thing I might do is charge the rezound to my bill for next month, and try to come up with 110.00

Sucks not having extra money... but eventually when im done with grad school, hopefully it will all pay off.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmac720:
weak ratios? thought they said the gs3 will have a good dev team to work around that. btw explain what you mean by this in bold cause im a bit noobish;)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbeelzebub:
As much as I'd prefer to buy another HTC phone (I love Sense!), I went with the SG3. I hope I don't regret that decision. I think this is the nicest of the Samsung phones yet (IMO), so that is a plus.

I have a Samsung tab already, so I look at it as having a "cohesive experience" across the devices. I still would have preferred an EVO 4G LTE type device on Verizon, but..... seeing as Unlimited Data is going the way of the Dodo and I refuse to pay full price for a VZW phone, I went all in on the SG3. 16gb/blue.

I'm looking forward to getting it and I'm sure I'll enjoy that big ol' screen. The DINC was a great phone, but it's long in the tooth and it's at the point now where I'm over the battery going dead after thirty minutes of web browsing.

---------- Post added at 07:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:51 AM ----------

Samsung has a history of having bad radios on Verizon. Their reception (amount of bars they get) isn't up to par with HTC and Moto for the most part. Additionally, there has been issues with their GPS not locking in quick. Hopefully this will be a non issue with the new Qualcomm S4 SOCS. I'm sure some Samsung fans will say they've never had issues and I don't doubt it, but there is a vocal majority that have had issues.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
You should also mention that devs can't build radios from scratch. The radios everyone flashes are provided by manufacturers and its very easy to brick a device flashing them if its not meant for your device.

The Rezound should be getting ICS within the next couple weeks. HTC had a notice posted on its website last night that the update was in progress but took it down after a couple hours. As for buggy, what phone isn't? They all have their problems IMO. And for $80 from Verizon the Rezound is a steal and after having a Galaxy Tab 7+ I will never buy another Samsung device again. TouchWiz just plain sucks, makes me really appreciate Sense even more.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmac720:
im sure they can just flash sencse on GS3, putting CM9 on it anyway when it comes out
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demarcmj:
Not possible. You can't get Sense on a non-HTC device.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
I've never seen a Sense based ROM for a Samsung device though someone has developed a TouchWiz ROM for the Incredible so I guess it isn't totally out of the question. The amount of development needed to port sense to a Samsung device would be a little intimidating IMO. You also have to be careful crossing HTC legally as Sense is proprietary and they have gone after people in the past. Same as Google successfully fought Cyanogen, thus the reason for having to flash gapps separately.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrJESUSatWork:
cm is the end-all for me, no question.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbeelzebub:
There is a Sense ROM in progress in the GS3 section. There has also been ones for various Moto phones.

There goes that idea!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OnceAMatrixMan:
What is so awful about touchwiz? I'm trying to decide between the Rezound and the SG3.

I thought after rooting and loading an ICS ROM I thought I'd have my Dinc for at least another year... Oh well.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
To me it the total lack of decent widgets, no themes or other mods and that it looks like green ass Gingerbread on every device. Samsung has like one version of TouchWiz that it uses on every device. IMO no one has as good widgets and themes as HTC in Sense.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobAbooE:
No upgrade till Aug and no away am I using it and giving up unlimited data. I will just keep checking swappa and wait for the prices on 4g phones to drop lower.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demarcmj:
Are they really Sense or just something themed to look like Sense?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbeelzebub:
It's in early stages. They are working through the bugs just like when you put a new Sense Rom on any HTC device. Looks like they are porting it to various Samsung devices. It's a real Sense ROM, not just an imitation.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1714904

Photos and video of it booting in second post.

www.sense4all.info
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrJESUSatWork:
While to others, it's a preferable upgrade of Android from the more-minimalist sense. And with either phone, I'm going to install a ROM anyway.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
Actually it is just as bloated as HTC Sense and maybe even more so now in the GS3 from what I've seen when I watched the launch. Plus it still had the gingerbread look to it on the GS 3, just not appealing. I've used both and far and away prefer Sense. I had really wanted to like the GS 3 but just find it butt ugly and way too big. And I'm not going to buy it just because nothing else new is out there, I'm willing to take 6 month old technology in a form I like over something I don't find appealing.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thelunchboxosu:
I am hearing that you cannot preorder the GSIII, you have to activate the phone before the 28th. Yet, that was for a person who has not yet upgraded to 4g, so if you have already then maybe you will be alright?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmac720:
just tested the gs3 in tmobile. mildly impressed. the speed and features on the phone were ok, but i wasnt feeling the voice command (s-voice) nor its ability to tackle live video feeds (firstrowsports.eu). i wasnt sure if it was the flash or the network connection on tmobile (4G - average 9 mbs/2 mbs via speed test).Hopfully it's nothing that a custom rom cant work out. After this experience i am still on the fence on this phone for my needs mainly (streaming vids and watching streaming vids), but all in all this is a really hot phone.

/vent

p.s. i love my sense (even tho im on cm right now) but touch wiz isnt that bad.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleepy-T:
I actually wasn't up for an upgrade until Sept, yet I was able to upgrade. Verizon notified me actually via a text last month. Called them and verified (my SGSIII pre-order went through last weekend btw).

Once the news of unlimited going away came out I assumed they were letting the unlimited customers get early upgrades as to not piss us off.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
I've heard of them randomly doing this before, but then when you call and ask for it they will tell you no. I was told by a rep that they could extend an early upgrade, the one after 18 months, by an extra 30 days and that was it. The same kind of thing happened with 3g network extenders too, a guy in here got a text from Verizon to get one free. So I call as I just bought a voice only model and they tell me no you can't have one. I don't know how or why they choose people for these offers but it appears to be random.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmac720:
source plox
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleepy-T:
Yeah, I have no idea. I would have not even thought to have asked if it wasn't for that text.

Phewww.... I saved my unlimited data :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
T-Mobiles network sucks, its the only reason I don't get a One S and they are basically giving them away for free. I had them for 2 years of hell, no signal at my house and had to drive a mile up to the Interstate to make a call. I live in a large city and the T-Mobile store is only a mile from my house which appears to be the only place you get a signal. I think they sit right under their only cell tower in town. They also don't support femtocell so network extenders don't work. Too many negatives for me to even think of going back.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Personally I'd just move up to the Dinc 2 like I did. Lots more roms. ICS everywhere lol. Sense 3.5, 3.6, and 4. I see no downside to a Dinc 2. Though I'm sure the Dinc 4g will be awesome too