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[Desire HD General] memnoc:
yeah, but, in the op is clearly specified that the drain in standby must be with all connections on...

on the other hand, see what % compares to hours is the only way to "say something clear"..and if it's not enough, we have the log, that is clear...

do tests is useful, but not always...if someone has to control wfi strenght, signal strenght, data strenght, apps installed, wich of them are running, all becomes very complicated...and unuseful..I tell you this cause I've tried;) it's enough keep under control mA to see how it works your battery..moreover, the user must to investigate on his own, I just gave you the method and some tools, but every phone is different, every user is diffrent, is almost impossible to say something that makes sense with too much info's...we need to keep the thing as clear as possible and simple as well...you can do what you said, when you have to "find the culprit" as I said in the op, cause your point is investigate, and mine too, but you have to do all the steps in op first, and see if situation changes..if not, you can check your wifi connection, try to figure out if your provider has a bad signal strenght, etc...

anyway, thanks mate, I appreciate your effort;)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Have you tried to calibrate both of them?
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
Well, I tried "things" out too before commenting, mate. :)

...and damn HTC for NOT giving Desire HD a 1500mAH battery to come with it! :D
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
I'm sure mate, infact I told you're right;) but first of all, you(people) have to follow the steps before, that's all;)
[Desire HD General] aliff:
-=OFFTOPIC=-

Could anyone tell me, what is the framework-res used on this screenshot as well as main font (at least clock in the right top corner)

Cheers
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
OT

dunno mate, but you can use apktool to see what png are used..
[Desire HD General] SQ3.0dotJP:
Indeed, im beyond pleased
[Desire HD General] ted77usa:
Hi,

Thanks for fast reply....i did wipe battery wipe stat for both battery from recovery...and i drain the battery till the power off and charge it till 100% for couple day for each battery but still one of them have good battery use and the other have less than 15 hrs....and how do u calibrate the battery anyway...?
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
The poor battery is defective, that's all.
[Desire HD General] SQ3.0dotJP:
im using ndt miui, it says default. i know its similar to the sony sketch font in the UOT kitchen, hope that helps
[Desire HD General] ted77usa:
but couple week ago i'm using coredroid v.7.0 both battery get same battery use about 15 hrs and when i switch to VU i got 30-36 hrs battery and that was awsome...do u think keep changing the battery will defect the battery...? if it does i'm just stick with the good battery....:)
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
First off, what's VU? U mean UV as in undervolting?

Keep charging battery won't defect it as long as the battery has safety circuity/mechanism that will cut off electricity inflow once it's fully charged, all Li-On batts have this mechanism I suppose.

However, battery cells' capacity, no matter how good & expensive the battery is, will deteriorate over time/charging-discharging cycle.

Just don't discharge/use the battery until it's empty. :eek:

If after floowing the steps explained so clearly in post #1 (OP), the 'bad' battery remains 'bad', than it's time to ditch it, it's hardware prob not software.
[Desire HD General] ted77usa:
i think u right...the other battery might be defect....and i always charge the battery when is empty and take it off when is full ....By the way

VU ( virtuous unity) Rom not UV (undervolting)
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
Today I am going back to holland from vacation. So I will try full wipe then :). I think that my battery is broken ' cause of charging problems.. It jumps from 88 to 100% in one time :/
[Desire HD General] zachs_xda:
I've found that flashing matching RILs for your radio on top of the ROM you've installed is extremely important as well for keeping current drain to a minimum.

Just today I've found I have root caused my battery drain problem to be due to mismatching RILs. I always flash matching RILs after installing new ROM but it looks like the RILs never actually get flashed -- the updater-script is buggered. It doesn't actually mount /system on most ROMs, thus doesn't update anything. So next time you try flashing RILs, make sure it's actually updated, rather than assume it has like I did, and went on a wild goose chase to figure out what was draining the battery so fast.

For more info on changing the RIL zip updater-script, see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16871480&postcount=313
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Mate if your usage is exactly the same, then is likely a defective battery.. I suggest you to concentrate on this point... Try to set the exact apps and then test both battery in standby(not in usage, it would be useless)... See the results and let us know!

Ps. Follow the op to calibrate both of your batteries, and wait the second full charge to check-in the real consumption..

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[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Oh gosh; -) let me know mate, could be software related as well; -)

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[Desire HD General] shinzhizu:
Let the phone in charge, untill you see 0MHa on current widget (or elixir)--

hi, no matter how i charge, the meter keep show 1MHa.. is it i still need keep charge until 0MHa?
[Desire HD General] Dad Pee:
Hi memnoc this is what i have achieved so the log has some info good help

BTW i flashed a new current wwe radio and it seems battery improve look the graph. thanks again for the tuto
[Desire HD General] bengal92:
Hey,

First, thanks a lot for all this work writing this tuto!

I'm trying to lower by battery usage, so I do apply your tuto at the moment.

I noticed from -2mA to -130 mA while not using phone. ~100 mA is incomling every 10 minutes. So I epect so crappy app to use a lot of battery ...

So, I'm trying to find it by uninstalling all suspicious apps ... I'll reinstall one by one just after.

But the point is: while doing this, I expect every one will do about the same thing. So after a short time, many people will identify so battery-consuming app.

Maybe it could be useful that we use this thread to identify battery consuming apps?

So you would incorporate, for instance in first post, a list of app consuming apps, as identified by users. So people would first try to uninstall those ones before testing all the others ...

What do you say about that ?
[Desire HD General] Dad Pee:
[QUOTE

But the point is: while doing this, I expect every one will do about the same thing. So after a short time, many people will identify so battery-consuming app.

Maybe it could be useful that we use this thread to identify battery consuming apps?

So you would incorporate, for instance in first post, a list of app consuming apps, as identified by users. So people would first try to uninstall those ones before testing all the others ...

What do you say about that ?[/QUOTE]

good suggestion bro that is what am trying to pin point the culprit haa
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
I already thought about it! Infact I reserved second post for something like that! Anyway very good idea mate!! Thanks; -)

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[Desire HD General] BumAround:
@memnoc,

see thie highlighted from your tutorial, you mean 0mA (zero mili ampere), correct, not 0MHa (zero mega hour ampere)? ;)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Yeah you're right, Thanks my tipo; -)

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[Desire HD General] ted77usa:
Thanks :) i'm using the defect battery now to see if the calibration work...just wipe battery stats thru CWM and calibrated battery with battery calibration from market and right now showing 88% with 1h19m on battery and will see tomorrow and after second charge like u said....
[Desire HD General] swgastro:
Ok, so I have managed to go 24 hours without going near a chaarger and my phone still has 70% battery left! Wifi on, gps on, texting, downloading apps.. everyday usual stuff.

My USB cable is feeling very alone and not wanted now haha.
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Good to know; -)

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[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Nice and helpfull thread for users sir...;)

U can add some tips if u want how to make less battery draining like these from seo's thread:

Avoid using live wallpaper, especialy weather LWP

Disable "Tell HTC" service: Settings -> About Phone ->Tell HTC

Disable Software updates: Settings -> About Phone ->Software updates

Change Wi-Fi Sleep policy: Settings -> Wireless & networks ->Wi-Fi Settings -> Advanced -> WiFi sleep policy -> 15min

If you don't care about faster 3G consider switching to 2g only: Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode -> GSM Only

Do not login to HTC HUB / HTC Sense account (it's a plain BS)

Disable Phone Finder: Settings -> Location

Disable weather sounds & clockwidget full screen animation

Increase facebook/twitter/stocks sync interval to 4hours or more.

Thanks to seo ^​

And one small tip for me:go to browser-menu-more-settings-enable plugins and turn to on demand.its a small trick from apple.:p

And dont forget to uv your kernel!Almost all kernels now can undervolt!For example in our team's rom the max mah in screen on-running any app are 300-350 with lord's uv kernel!In otherwise u can see the mah at 600-650!:eek:

Any others tips are welcome to improve more our battery.

Thanks for your hard work mate...;)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Yeah my friend; -) I'll add them for sure; -)

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[Desire HD General] hav0c:
Would it be possible to backup

battery_stats.bin

when finished calibrating and copy it back after flashing a new ROM?
[Desire HD General] Dad Pee:
A miracle or did you put your phone in the drawer and just looking at it don't be afraid to use it LOL.

Yes real improvement is achieved following a simple steps glad for you but don't forget to share valuable info how to achieve that.

Dad Pee posted on XDA App with DesireHD
[Desire HD General] angiotell:
Do you advise programs like Juicedefender or green power to improve battery life?
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
hey;) absolutely unuseful mate, juice defender works like a taskilller for connections and as a consequence creates internal conflit with android...what I wrote in the op is the best you can do to improve your battery life and there's no reason why it doesn't work if you follow those steps properly;) if you have any problems let me know and ?ill help you ASAP:D
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
dunno mate...It's easier to calibrate your battery at the first charge..
[Desire HD General] tolakos100:
"--Do wipe data factory reset (Very Very important things, it needs to re-mount your partitions after format clean! Otherwise rom won't boot at all!!"

How can i remount my parititions after format?

I have goldcarded my phone, with the format i have to do again the goldcard procedure?

Can someone help please?:confused:
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
you have "goldcarded" your phone to root it right? cause your phone was "branded"..correct?

Anyway, wipe data factory reset delete your user data....apk's, settings, nothing more...if you have ever performed a full wipe, or you've followed the format steps in my op, you had already delete your data, and as I said in the op, you need to repet this again with wipe data factory reset just remounted partitions wich were unmounted during formats....so no problems mate:-)
[Desire HD General] danjel96:
I did it when i had only wifi on and nothing else and it still says that battery uses 150-350mA.
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
I need more info's mate...more details about what you've done...
[Desire HD General] Antonios76:
Clean Battery_stats.bin file

--Let the phone in charge, untill you see 0mA on current widget (or elixir)--

--Now open Battery Calibration--

--Chose remove battery_stats.bin---

--Click on "exit application"--(no reboot your phone from the app option!!)

--Reboot your phone COMPLETELY--(no hot restart!! Just reboot)

A question on that.

When we unplug the phone?. Do we have to keep plugged the phone when we make the reboot ?. .

And some queries :

When you say excellent battery life.. I have a mugen battery . Is this process suitable only for the stock battery or it can be applied to any battery ?

Do you think that 1% of loss every hour is a good battery performance with the wifi/3g active in a standby mode ?
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
yeah, keep plugged until 0mA for the first time (when you calibrate and then reboot) and for the second time it's better to wait 0mA again to use the phone fully charged after recalibration...

dunno with mugen,,,I've tested these method with stock battery, but should it works even with mugen...

yeah, 1% per hour is definitely the goal (or less, depends on your settings)...
[Desire HD General] Antonios76:
So, we reboot the phone plugged and we wait to be 0mA again and after we unplug ?
[Desire HD General] danjel96:
So, I've done this:

--Let the phone in charge, untill you see 0mA on current widget (or elixir)--

--Now open Battery Calibration--

--Chose remove battery_stats.bin---

--Click on "exit application"--(no reboot your phone from the app option!!)

--Reboot your phone COMPLETELY--(no hot restart!! Just reboot)

But i didn't notice a different so i have done this:

--download tool--

--unpack zip and click on .exe application (is a stand alone app, so you have to click and confirm installation, that's all!)

--open tool--

--put DHD in "Fastboot Mode"--

--plug it to your pc usb--

--Wait for "print of device succesfull"--(if fails, check your sdk driver)

--here you go to "misc"--

--select: erase partitions (system,cache,userdata,boot(optional))--

--click on "Erase chosen partition"--

--Done--

--manually reboot dhd to recovery--

--don't care about error message like E:/can't found recovery log" or something like this. Iy's just recovery wich telling you that partitions are not mounted!--

--So wipe data factory reset to re-mount partitions, otherwise you can't flash anything!

--now flash your rom--
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
100% correct:-)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
ok, great....two possible reasons:

1) some app's eating your battery...try to check out what app could do this, read "how find the culprit" in the op, could help you a lot...

2) sometimes, I need to reboot my router, dunno why but sometimes keeps getting work bad and eat battery due to unstable signal...

try..

and you can also check if on data connection you still have heavy battery drain...if it's not, then is likely a router fault..or app...remember to check out if you have flagged "better wifi performances" on wifi settings..it could eat your battery a lot..
[Desire HD General] danjel96:
I haven;t any applications, becouse i had "formating system"

I think i don't have any problems with router but I will check it, thanks :)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
ok, but something's wrong for sure...it's an abnormal battery drain..there's surely a reason...app's, settings, router...you have to find out wich ones...

Ps formatting system doesn't delete data (apk's) just delete system (rom, kernel,.. ).. to delete data you have to perform format data..
[Desire HD General] tolakos100:
First, thanks for the helpful Infos and congratulations for your work, very helpful!

If I got it right, after the format i will do wipe/factory reset so the parititions remount again? Because with format they unmount, right?
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Right; -) and thanks; -)

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[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Antoni, use this tool especially for calibration of mugen (but not only!) battery...;)
[Desire HD General] thazlett:
Been using a method pretty much the same as this for a long time and it is worth doing.;)
[Desire HD General] danjel96:
Ok. I usef fastboot commander and can i use battery calibration now ?

Naklikane z mojego DHD.
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
you've used commander to erase partitions, then I supposed you installed your favourite rom, then fully charge your phone till 0 mA, then use calibrator!;)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
if you want to share with us, I'll add in the op mate:D

ot ps. such a good avatar is yours;)
[Desire HD General] danjel96:
12:24, - 3mA, il 100%

12:29, - 5mA, il 100%

12:34, - 3mA, il 100%

12:39, - 3mA, il 100%

12:44, - 3mA, il 100%

12:54, - 27mA, il 99%

13:04, - 44mA, il 99%

13:10, - 10mA, il 99%

13:16, - 20mA, il 98%

13:28, - 3mA, il 98%

13:31, - 3mA, il 97%

13:48, - 7mA, il 97%

13:56, - 3mA, il 97%

14:08, - 3mA, il 97%

14:18, - 27mA, il 97%

14:24, - 3mA, il 97%

Is it good ?
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Yeah,.. good enough... You can improve it, but as you can see it's a good and stable situation; -)

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[Desire HD General] danjel96:
And how csn i improve it ?

Naklikane z mojego DHD.
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Well, follow the op, check your settings .. but as I told you, it's already a good situation..

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[Desire HD General] danjel96:
Ok, Thank you ;)
[Desire HD General] mattiadj:
Hello,

i have followed this guide.

Flashed a kernel with ultra undervolt and now i have 3-4mA with screen off but during wifi use such as tapatalk or during surfing i have mA until 300-380 mA!!!!

I have the most notification and background update disabled...all to manual (such as Pulse, Facebook, Plume....ecc ecc) but how can i understand WHY i have this big drain during usage??

Thanks to all
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
Hey,

Sometimes happen with certain rom or certain activities, such as recording videos or surfing or whatever.. the point is have a good stand by behaviour.. and you have it.. so don't worry mate; -)

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[Desire HD General] sirusu:
I have the same situation, when turning on the screen (with wifi or data on)

The mA values range from 200-400.

Doesnt seems like a normal behaviour to me. My phone will not last a day with data on and some surfing on FB and etc.
[Desire HD General] mattiadj:
Me too.

If I don't use the phone its wonderful but using it...no!

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[Desire HD General] ted77usa:
Thanks agian for your great tutorial....and your help....now the defective battery have good battery life ...:) after wipe battery stats...calibrate battery and wait for couple day ( charge only when the phone die ) ..:) but i dunno why my dialer use alot of battery even i don't use the phone dialer...any idea?
[Desire HD General] ted77usa:
the poor battery is not defective after all....:)

before battery drain about 12% in 1 hrs something and by the end of the day battery die already last about 12-14 hrs only

now is good....:)
[Desire HD General] mike1986.:
Thanks memnoc for the amazing thread! A added it to my FAQ first question :)
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
Congrats on resurrecting the battery. :D

Have you checked which app is connecting to the net (downloading/uploading) without you knowing? Disable the background data. Download Traffic Counter from the Market.
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
Hmm I thought that draining your dhd to 0% is bad... Don't misunderstand me but I think to that draining your battery gives you better battery ....
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
What a honour mike; -) Thanks a lot; -)

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[Desire HD General] mattiadj:
Tell me how is my situation!!

How I have 8%

You can see all in images attached

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[Desire HD General] L-ViZ:
Battery broken? (desire z)

hey guys, calibrated my dhd many times, everytime with great results. now i got a desire z. the desire z never reaches 0mA. after it´s fully loaded, it drains a bit and is loading again a few mA. my dhd stuck @0mA when it´s full. is it a normal reaction of desire z or is something wrong with my battery?
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
Lol my dhd accu reaches 0Ma but after few min. It automaticly change to 30 or whatever Ma haha

And my battery is broken btw (I think)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
it's bad for sure..li-ion battery don't need to...they have a "security system" wich not allow you to discharge battery to 0..nevertheless, it's better charge your phone when 10-15% battery left...it's a matter of better battery life in terms of erosion of lithium cells...
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
this was happen to me on my stock dhd rom...a perfect mA average, but enormous battery drain...just lke you....so, post your exact configuration, I mean settings, rom kernel (UV or not? OC or not?), radio, ril, syncing app's, and most important, I need to know exactly what you've done to calibrate your battery...keep in mind that this guide is made for single core, but should work for every li-ion battery....everything could be useful to figure out your problem...however, it seems a rom\kernel related issue...sounds weird cause mike's rom used to be perfect in terms o battery life....anyway, I'm here, let me know;)
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
do you have root and set-off?
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
ok, keep in mind this.....the screens you posted don't mean nothing....are exactly the same on my dhd, and I have a perfect battery life....on usage, is normal a 200\400 range of mA...notice that if you run certain app's, this range could be higher or lower, for ex. when you record a video it will be higher...when you surf should be lower....the goal here is achieve a perfect standby behaviour...during usage, it's all about kernel, rom, and their optimization..
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
I have the same range....depends on many thing...we must first establish your standby behaviour...if it's good, then we can take care of all the other things..
[Desire HD General] L-ViZ:
yes i have, just made it a few days ago

i think i got it, not sure, but got eng-s off
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
mmm...have you followed the op? if it's not, do it...desire z is almost the same in terms of hardware compared to desire hd...there's no reason why this guide shouldn't work..apart from a broken battery..
[Desire HD General] L-ViZ:
the guide is not the problem, the battery is^^ as i said, with dhd i had no problems.

pretty strange, i got still 100% with desire z, should be lower oO a few phone calls, display 15minutes...
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
it seems software related....post here an average day, for ex. 20h general usage and 2h of display on...just to figure out your situation..and of course the rom\kernel u are using..
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
OMG@kingfisher please edit your post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as soon as you can!!!!! and use tags!
[Desire HD General] kingfisher1111:
How to use that?i just pasted some info from the log file? Is there a different way of doing that?
[Desire HD General] memnoc:
use tags mate <>