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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryryrocco:
I currently own a dinc and am due for an upgrade. I think I will stick with it for now with the new gb update that is currently dropping and all the crazy developing that is occurring with the newer versions of sense. pretty impressive for this old "EOL" phone.

I have a quick question...If I currently have my dInc on an unlimited data plan and I upgrade to a newer device using my 2 year upgrade, do I get downgraded to a limited plan once I change devices? Or am I grandfathered until I change the plan itself? I plan on trying to keep my phone at least a few more months up to a year anyways. Just curious.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
The data is per line, not per billing account. That's one of the reasons I got the Tbolt. When you renew the contract on the line, the new contract will not allow for unlimited data.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
I actually called Verizon about my upgrade, and if I take it, I get to keep my unlimited data. So I think your info may be a bit off. Verizon's official stance is that we're grandfathered in, even through upgrades, until further notice.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00McD00:
Wow I haven't checked this thread in weeks because I thought it feel off...guess I was wrong. This is straight up comical lol glad I could stimulate such an "educated" discussion.

I guess we can update now since the SGSII is definitely not coming to verizon and the Droid/Nexus Prime almost certainly is. Unless something amazing comes out regarding the Droid HD, the Prime is for sure my next phone. Carry on...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmoney468:
iPhone 5 or possibly an HTC LTE phone around next April
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
Didn't work like that when I got the dInc2.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abrin:
I'll admit, I've been waiting for a loooong time to upgrade. Feels like forever. Thanks to a nice little loophole I used when I got my DINC I've been able to upgrade since Nov of last year but have biding my time because nothing has come out to really tempt me. To be perfectly honest I've been extremely happy keeping my DINC due to the awesome work of JoelZ, the Cyanogen team, r2DoesInc, ihtfp69, incubus26jc, the MIUI team, gmichaelow, and EVERY OTHER DEVELOPER that has allowed me to keep my phone feeling fresh, new and interesting since I got my phone on release day.

But it's getting time, the phone itself has taken a beating and is showing it's age. So to answer the question I'll be jumping to the HTC Vigor and hope and pray that developers like the ones listed above do the same awesome work on that phone that they've done with the DINC
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lukestuffy:
I have another year and some change left with this phone, and I don't see anything special enough to trade this one for... IMO

Sent from my phone. Cm7 Nightly #181
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
Are you on a family plan, or individual? The way it was explained to me for my plan was:

-If I upgrade my line (which is already on unlimited data), I retain unlimited data

-If I add a line for my wife, that line would go under current terms, which is $30/2GB.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
It was a new line on an established plan.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
Yeah I just got off a family plan and onto another family plan (not actually family though..just buddies) and the minutes were downgraded on the second plan and as long as that phone/line was on Verizon previously (with the unlimited) then you keep it.

If you upgrade you still keep it and when you renew you still keep it.

It only changes if you cancel your line and sign up again (why would you even do that) or if you add a brand new line to a plan, family or single doesn't matter.

Someone on our plan has a dumbphone, and was thinking about upgrading to a smartphone, but even though she has been with verizon for 3 years she never had a data plan before, and even though she's on the family plan and everyone else has unlimited data, if she did add data she would have to pay the tiered pricing.

We've talked to a few rep's in the store and on the phone, they all say the same thing.

So really it's not that complicated, if you have unlimited then it's not going away anytime soon no matter if you upgrade,downgrade,change plans (as long as you don't remove the unlimited data from your phone). If there's a new line or a line that has never had unlimited, you will have to pay tiered, again it doesn't matter if it's on a plan with other unlimited or if it's a single plan.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
That's why. New lines follow the new rules, even if it's an established plan. The established line is grandfathered in. If you feel that the Inc2 is your primary, swap that phone with the line that has the unlimited plan. It's your choice.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
There was a lot of confusion before this came to pass, and that's when I got my Tbolt and looked into this most. I appreciate this because I think I'm going to be bringing another HTC into the fold soon and it's useful information. Thanks guys.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mslam02:
i'm going with either the droid prime, or possibly the htc Vigor (still a fan of sense)

But you never know, once those come out theres always another phone on the horizon! :) and the Dinc is far from outdated, at least on a software standpoint thanks to the great dev community. so holding out isn't that big of a deal, i've been elligible for an upgrade since july...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirrin:
nexus prime or something htc will depend on what comes out sept 2012
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davwman:
My upgrade is eligible in november 2012. The incredible will be enough until then. At that point there will be some serious hardware available.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
The bionic is looking promising, as long as development goes well and it's able to be fully rooted then it will probably be my next phone.

I'm someone who actually likes the build of most Motorola phones, they are solidly built often with tin/aluminum instead of plastic- the hardware radio's have always been strong, great speaker/mic/camera/screen/especially battery has been above average for most smartphones. The only downfall is a lot of their phones are not fully able to be rooted and if that doesn't happen then motoblur is a definite no.

It'll depend heavily on what DEV's can do with it, so I'll give it a month or two before I jump over. I'm ready for an upgrade in a month and although I still love my INC and could easily stay with it for another year (maybe even 2)- I'd still like to get an all-around upgrade on my device.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eraste:
Loving the Vigor. Wish it was 4G tho.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cybertlc:
Can't wait for the HTC Vigor!!!!!!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dark_isz:
Isn't it? Saw this on DroidLife today which implies that it is...

Mysterious HTC Device With LTE Lands At The FCC, It’s Definitely The Vigor
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zalatorisaurus:
Yes. The HTC Vigor will support 4G LTE on Verizon.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcdroidincredible23:
The white Droid incredible 2 or bionic
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lukestuffy:
I've decided I'm never going to retire this phone.

Sent from my phone
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mslam02:
haha, well im sure the incredible forum will be kicking at least for another year or two. ICS, then Jelly bean on the incredible? i think yes.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grnlantern79:
What reboot problems, mine has not rebooted one time since i rooted. What phone would I trade my incredible for is the Thunderbolt, what phone would i trade my thunderbolt in for, the HTC Vigor/Thunderbolt 2/Droid incredible HD what ever its going to be called. I will not upgrade my phone after that upgrade I will screen protect it....case it....glue it to my hand (not rosie the other one) that phone is much more than a phone needs to be so it will be future proof at least 2 years. I don't see a need for quad core processors in phones so dual core will be perfectly fine, I am sure the developers will be able to keep this phone flying with dual cores and the 1 GB of RAM.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grnlantern79:
Didn't retire my incredible it retired me, 5 of them broke on of no fault of my own no root, no drops. Just over heats while charging, formats by itself, and just apps that deleted once battery died. I wish to god I would have kept my first incredible it was a perfect phone till I got the 2.2 upgrade after that nothing but issues and then root it to fix it like I did to the Thunderbolt issues. My daughter currently has my incredible as a video game phone more or less no service so she can keep her hands off my phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grnlantern79:
It will be 4G
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grnlantern79:
What the help is with Samsung and most of their phones don't have a simple flash for camera? I got spoiled on INC and TB so next phone has to have 4G and better specs than TB
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jodsfk421:
Nexus Prime

My contract is up in April... I am not giving up my Dinc (with CM7) until the Nexus Prime is readily available... From what it sounds like, it'll be released around Thanksgiving. :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
Well, the Prime can't possibly be as big a heap of crap as the Bionic turned out to be.

My money will be on Vigor when my dInc finally meets real retirement. I'm telling ya now that's gonna be the next dInc. It's basically an LTE version of the EVO 3D which means ROM and kernel development will just explode like there's no tomorrow... Just like what happened with the dInc and EVO 4G.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iowabowtech:
Droid/Nexus Prime with Vigor as a background possibility. I don't really care that much what comes loaded on it either. I won't be running stock for long anyway.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveJiuJitsu:
Whatever is top of the heap in 9 months. :(
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davwman:
this phone will have to retire itself, due to hardware failure.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gorilla*:
I dont know. My dinc is set up just how i want it.. with Cm7, and my Galaxy S 2 theme, I have the latest Rom, Kernel and Radio, and Love the awesome dev support for the phone.

I really enjoy the awesome Kernel, with Fast Charge and Fast Charge over USB...

The phone is really excellent... I am madly in love with the Sgs2 so if Verizon gets a variant of that I will have to see if i have the money to spring for that.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k_nivesout:
Verizon is the only major carrier NOT getting a GSII variant, which totally sucks, but is somewhat understandable being that the prime will be a better device. I'm assuming they didn't feel the need to have two high end Samsung devices coming out in Q4.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
I voted HTC Vigor, but my birthday is tomorrow (Sept. 15th) and RadioShack will have the Bionic at $100 off, and I may be getting that (as a gift, not myself going to buy it). It is still an amazing phone, my friend has one (he doesn't root/hack/dev at all, just the average user) and loves it. So, I may be unfortunately leaving HTC, but I won't be leaving Android. Plus, I will still keep my Droid Incredible, you know, to make ROMs and stuffz:)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zalatorisaurus:
No!!! No Frosty Vigor buddy!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
I know:/

Maybe when that comes out someone who doesn't know as much about them will trade or I can sell the Bionic and buy the Vigor. I'm not going to say no to a gift, let alone this one, being still a great phone. I would rather the Vigor, but won't say no to a free (well, to me) Bionic.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zalatorisaurus:
Yeah. I wouldn't either. My birthday is Monday, but I'm won't stop waiting for a new phone til the Vigor. Hopefully I'll be able to make some ROMs for that when I get some time.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chattguy:
In 12 hours or less, my new Dinc2 will be here, and I will officially be retiring the original HTC Droid Incredible. It's bittersweet. I couldn't have asked for a better phone to cut my android teeth on. It's been very forgiving, considering the amount of ROM's I've been through since its unboxing. I will miss it, as I will miss you guys. Hopefully I'll see some of you on the Incredible 2 forums. Thanks for all the help, ROM's and themes. You guys have been awesome. :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
That's not a very populated place... Excellent device though.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
I know newt is there...and I believe Joelz has some stuff for it...so yeah, if you like their stuff (which I don't see how you couldn't) then you'll be in good hands.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SteveG12543:
Happy birthday man!

I'm still leaning towards the Vigor personally. I'm thinking about upgrading to it like the week it comes out, if it does turn out to be the beast all the rumors say it will be lol. I want to stick with HTC, would like a qHD screen or better, front facing camera would be nice, and dual core. And 1GB of RAM :D. I could go for a 4.3"-4.5" preferably, but as long as its screen is 4.X" its fine with me.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running some random CM7 nightly.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Vigor looked like a good bet, but I think my days with HTC are numbered....bionic for me...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattbrax19:
I really like this phone, probably will stick with HTC and try the Vigor.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
Well guys, I was right. I'm getting a DROID Bionic for my birthday. It's a nice phone, today is my birthday but I get it tomorrow/this weekend. I'll still be hanging around here though, my mom is taking over my DInc but love the idea of custom ROMs, so I will still be working on things and hanging around these threads. Hope to possibly see some of you over on the Bionic side. Hashcode has CWM working on the Bionic and it should be released soon. You didn't think I wouldn't root though, did you?;)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
HTC Vigor just got its press shots i'd wait :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zalatorisaurus:
Happy birthday, man. Have fun with your new toy and I should have a birthday present coming down the loop for you soon. It's in the wallpapery form if you catch my drift ;)

I'm definitely going for the Vigor, ThunderBolt 2, whatever it's going to be called. Those press shots look great and it could be announced any day now. I'm so glad my upgrade is already up :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
Definitely HTC Vigor over here, how can you go wrong with a 720X1280 display and dual core 1.5Ghz... That company has been too damned good to us to just walk away. HTC for life yo! ROFL

Now if they would officially name it 'Incredible HD' I would be stoked.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zerocool79346:
They did. Just saw the news on phandroid earlier tonight. PR confirmed all of the rumored specs an it will be released as the Incredible HD.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
Wow, I will pay full price for that thing.. my upgrade isn't until January.. :-)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
It's a gift, not my own purchase:/

I'd wait if I was buying it myself.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devildog8791:
Mine is at the end of December. Hopefully there will be some after Christmas sales.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RussianMenace:
Unfortunately my upgrade isn't up till May of 2012...so my Dinc, assuming it lives, will get replaced by something with a quad snapdragon or a quad Kal-El. That's assuming cell phones don't turn in to tablet-size 5"+ monsters in which case I'll probably just pick up something from current generation for cheap on CL or ebay.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the lack of 4G or HDMI-out I would probably have absolutely no reason to upgrade as there is nothing (other than 4g/hdmi) another phone can do that Dinc can't.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] REYES702:
Bionic or Thunderbolt

No point in "upgrading" to something that isn't 4G compatible.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marcismo55:
The WVGA part is a little odd but man I have an upgrade ready now and another in January...hmmmm

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/1...the-droid-incredible-hd-launching-october-13/
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
I couldn't have said it better. 4g is the Dinc's only drawback IMO. But what better device to replace this phone with as it is the only phone I would consider because I am an HTC fanboy now. :-)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liteon163:
I keep going back and forth between the HTC Incredible HD (Vigor) and the Nexus (DROID) Prime. All else being equal, I'd really like the SAMOLED+ screen of the Samsung phone. Luckily my January upgrade will let me see how things settle down before committing.

Right now I'm still 50/50.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcdroidincredible23:
Droid incredible hd
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] at4r1:
I'm currently debating this since I can upgrade now. I was thinking about the bionic but I'm not a big fan of motorola phones. I think I'm going to hold on to the Dinc until HTC releases something comparable.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
weird wvga display optimized for hd? lol and then it says hd resolution very confusing... still getting it though
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devildog8791:
That is absolutely correct.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mkropf:
I'd like to go with nexus prime, if it comes with icecream sandwich!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidian1441:
Probably the vigor...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
Well guys, it's official. Just got my Bionic. My birthday present. Not gonna lie, I love it. It's an amazing phone. If you want to make the jump to it, you know where I'll be:)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
It is very tempting to get it.

I hear the battery life on it is pretty good with 4G and amazing with 3G, and with the processor.. I do really want it.

I probably will get it, mostly just going to wait for the development to kick up on it because I don't want to be stuck with motoblur for too long.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
^This. I've noticed that Motorola phones often get neglected by the Cyanogen team. This isn't their fault, it's the stupid bootloader policy at Moto. Would have loved to see Cyanogen support on the Droid 3.

I would have considered the Bionic 4-5 months ago. Now? Launching 1-2 months before a superior Nexus was borderline stupid.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
CM is booting on the Bionic thanks to cvpcs. The Bionic community raised enough for him to buy one, he's going to be the official maintainer.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zalatorisaurus:
That's great news. Hopeful y'all will get some Miui love too.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
Then I'll have to look hard at the Bionic, if the holiday releases aren't what I expect. I still prefer HTC devices due to the option of Sense or CM.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frostincredible:
Yeah, those two ROMs are probably what I'm going to be switching between. MIUI and CM should run amazing on this phone. And this new "Application Platform UI" (read: MotoBlur) that is on the Bionic honestly is not as bad as previous phones. It's a large improvement. It runs smooth, fast, and looks kinda nice with the new blueish look. So I still dislike earlier versions, but this new one is starting to grow on me. Not gonna lie.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
Which Nexus phone is there?

I know the Vigor will actually have a slower processor than the Bionic, and if the trend continues with HTC devices then the battery life will be worse too.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SteveG12543:
Isn't the Vigor supposed to have a 1.5GHz dual core processor though?

Sent from my Droid Incredible running some random CM7 nightly.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pharpe:
Nexus Prime for me on November 3rd

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/09/18...xus-3-lte-ice-cream-sandwich-again-mentioned/
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zalatorisaurus:
You may want to rethink that a little. Lol. The Vigor's specs beat the Bionic all around. The Bionic uses hardware that is 6 months old.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
It is but it's also supposed to be a generation older than the Bionic's Dual Core, ultimately making it a slower phone.

Rumors rumors, that's all that's going around right now. No one knows for sure, just what I've heard from a few places.

also ty for the link to the Nexus

still looks like it's too soon to compare.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykresge:
If they were both at 1ghz, then yes, the dual-core Scorpion in the Vigor would be slower than the dual-core A9 in the Bionic. The A9 is roughly 15% faster than Scorpion at equal clock speeds. However, the Vigor will be at 1.5ghz, compared to the Bionic's 1ghz. Vigor will be faster. The 1.2ghz Sensation (same CPU as Vigor, just lower clock) is already marginally faster than the Bionic.

However, same die process, so all things equal, the higher clocked CPU drains more battery. That's not even counting HTC's usual decision to use smaller batteries. Yes, it's a safe bet that the Vigor's battery life will be horrible.

As for the GPU, the Adreno 220 on the Vigor is already shown to be faster than the higher-clocked SGX540 on the OMAP4 (Bionic), but not by a ton. Both phones will be outstanding, but the edge in performance clearly goes to the Vigor.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renzo.olivares:
After reading a lot and researching the evo 3d or sensation dont fully support their dual cores......only one core is turned on not both....same will be with the vigor...we have already figured out how to turn both on and still has about the same battery life i get at least 1 1/2 days with my evo 3d