yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
I'm a gadget whore. However I never would have bought it at the original pricing. Never. When it dropped to $150 for a 32GB I bought the sh!t out of it... $150 is less than my monthly coffee budget.

I buy things to tinker with all the time. By the time the firesale started there was already a healthy homebrew community and it cost the same as my kindle but does WAY more. It was a no brainer. The Android rumours that were circulating at the time was just the cherry on top.
[TouchPad Development] mrjinglesusa:
^^^^^^^^THIS.....

....is EXACTLY why I bought one. Great gadget to tinker with that I would NEVER pay $499/$599 for.

The possibility to install Android on this hardware made it even a better purchase at the firesale prices.
[TouchPad Development] Sushibagel:
+1

I already had a Moto Xoom but at $150 I figured why not it'll be a fun toy to mess around with. Especially when Android is ported.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Just an update from the Cyanogenmod team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IVkj_vdY6s
[TouchPad Development] cjcarter1254:
Wow things are moving along nicely thank for sharing
[TouchPad Development] xuanphucn:
I just can't wait. so adorable:cool:
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
Not you again. :rolleyes:
[TouchPad Development] mattmiller:
Latest android update 9/20/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApfeSj4Ql6Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[TouchPad Development] SS2006:
That's a huge advancement

sent from MoPho
[TouchPad Development] Kermagod:
Without sounding rude, there's a thread about android on Touchpad already:

http:// http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1224540
[TouchPad Development] cf125:
last time they released a video about it they released a early beta didn't they have they released one with the new working wifi sound...
[TouchPad Development] lynyrd65:
It wasn't released. Team touchdroid kanged their work then posted it up here.
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
CM rarely releases anything that doesnt already completely or at least mostly work
[TouchPad Development] Ruckzuck78:
awesome work ;-)
[TouchPad Development] mattmiller:
Cm indeed makes sure that most bugs are worked out and yet still leaving enough "to be done" issues to make everyone anticipate the next update. Isn't that what xda is all about? Getting a amazing rom /port,downloading/installing,follow the developer for newer creations and updates. :).

Ps:THE TITLE IS CHANGED
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
Sorry......my point was the last "release" was not CM's and having these discussions in general rather than dev is much better :)
[TouchPad Development] mattmiller:
Oh your 100% right lol. No pun was intended. The touchdroid release was garbage was showed what cm had in early stages
[TouchPad Development] Royvin:
Wow that is amazing, everyone at CM THANK YOU. I know that its not released yet but that is very promising and can't wait till it is released! :D
[TouchPad Development] Teletran:
Looks very encouraging!

Thanks for sharing. :)
[TouchPad Development] setox:
i just got my touchpad today they ran out of the 16gig so i had to the 36gig amd i can't wait to this gets fully ported im sure once it fully gets ported there will be alot of devs ready at least #highhopes
[TouchPad Development] reverendkjr:
http://twitter.com/#!/reverendkjr/status/115229081037045760
[TouchPad Development] roundeye1987:
How official is this? With some of the demo video's I've seen, it's kinda weird they'd wait till 11/11/11 to release something. I'm not trying to complain, I know the dev's put a lot of work into this, just saying.
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
Where did you get this information?
[TouchPad Development] Sincitybronze:
He said in another thread that it was from an IRC discussion:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17642135&postcount=85
[TouchPad Development] evil-doer:
ya. people were joking around and pulled the number out of their ass. posting this as being serious is ridiculous.
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
It'll be ready when it's ready doesn't jive with a date two months from now. :D
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
The Cyanogen team will just drop it on us once it's ready. They don't need the pressure of a set date and stated that there would be no etas. Also, why link to your own twitter post instead of just saying it in the post?
[TouchPad Development] reverendkjr:
Cuz it's more ridiculous this way. :D

Trollerz gonna troll.

This was a result of a conversation happening in the IRC channel. SO many people asking for a release date, we decided to give one. Here it is. 11/11/11. Now go away and stop asking.

...or is it real? Hmmm...
[TouchPad Development] Sincitybronze:
We? Are you part of the team?
[TouchPad Development] reverendkjr:
I never said that. ;)
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
Go troll somewhere else!
[TouchPad Development] reverendkjr:
In all seriousness, I will post anything of serious value in here and probably other places as soon as I get it. As usual, it'll probably include a video. I just hope everyone can be patient and just enjoy the ride like I am!
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
You can post whatever you want. I will wait till the CM TEAM posts an update. All you need to do it follow dalingrin's twitter, he always posts when there is something of value to share. Everyone has been patient! Posting a fake date only stirs things up.
[TouchPad Development] arda99:
Audio is fixed. From dalingrin's twitter:

Audio out is near 100% and it now works with both CPU cores enabled #CMTouchpad

BTW, you should thank Jonpry for fixing audio out.
[TouchPad Development] brooon:
And another Tweet:
[TouchPad Development] dan-fish:
Porting ROM's

Hi guys

I was wondering after Android was out on the touchpad, how easy would something like porting a galaxy tab ROM be? As much as I love Android, I don't think gingerbread can provide a better tablet experience than WebOS.

So I was thinking if nobody wants to build honeycomb from scratch how easy would a port be?
[TouchPad Development] k1l:
Hey, there are uncountable Threads or Posts about why Gingerbread is choosen for now by the CM Team and why its not that easy to "just port" a other Rom to it.
[TouchPad Development] redbullcat:
We need Gingerbread fully working and stable before we even begin to think about porting ROMs from other devices. Personally I'm going to continue using webOS as the primary OS until we get Honeycomb/Ice Cream Sandwich.
[TouchPad Development] nunjabusiness:
Since you are not part of the CM team and are obviously not an independent dev working on a different port, why would (or should) anyone attach any importance or value to your announcements of admittedly false information?
[TouchPad Development] BrianDigital:
Well gingerbread needs to be first and by the time cm gets this out ICS will be rigght around the corner. So it seems no one wants to build it from scratch.....well honeycomb is not open there is no source to build from scratch.

So if the idea of running gingerbread temporarily while waiting for ICS well don't use it and use webos.
[TouchPad Development] topcaser:
The devs making tremendous steps forward. Wow. Can't wait to try the first Beta. Thank you dalingrin for updating us on twitter.

First i thought, webOS is really nice. But after working some days with it i prefer CM7 on my Nookie.

When i see the progress the devs make iam not afraid about the timeline of the first Beta release but about they can fix the CM servers in time :-)
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
If you knew how many people jumped on IRC or various forums asking for ETAs you would know why the "rev" did his joke. It's freaking hilarious.

"I'm not asking for an ETA but.....".....then they ask for an ETA

And in the the "revs" defense he is on the IRC channel a lot so he does have a heads up
[TouchPad Development] nunjabusiness:
:o Suitably chastised.

Yet another case where someone who is not "in the know" (that would be me) lashes out with ignorant flames.

Of course everyone should be forewarned by my sig. :p

Still not sure if I will jump with GB or wait for ICS.
[TouchPad Development] Mikesus:
This is the one exception to my rule of not messing with nightlies...

I would be all over a nightly for this.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
People asking for android then complaining because it is GB make me laugh. CM7 with Tablet Tweaks makes more then a capable enough device. Apps scale well on Android already, so there will be no issue there. Sure, they may not be "true" tablet apps, but after using my NC for months, you find you really "don't" need those.
[TouchPad Development] k1l:
yep! thats all the ones just reading somewhere Honeycomb was made for tablets and then they start ranting why the heck they go with gingerbread.

if you try to count how often that question "why no honeycomb" comes up you know that is just another noob knowing nothing.

never spend 2mins. searching on what is going on, just posting what they think.

they even dont know hat cm7 got the tablet tweaks running on other tablet devices.
[TouchPad Development] nunjabusiness:
The nook is a 7" tab right? I can well imagine the visual benefits of HC or ICS may be not as noticeable, but (IMHO) on a 10-incher phone-centric apps and games and menus suck out loud, graphically. :( I never really gave GB a chance as I took my G-tablet from stock to FroYo to HC ROMS within a couple of months, but that video of green's TP running their latest build looks pretty damn good. :D

I had been on the fence about whether or not I would try the first CM port that is released, until I watched the videos.

I am starting to look at it this way: CM are doing it (out of necessity) as a dual-boot solution so you don't really risk anything much except a little storage space on the SD. So I will probably jump on it as soon as it is available and switch back as needed until an ICS or (dare I say it?) a significant WebOS update makes it necessary.

Reportedly, ICS will be open and more easily modified but who's to say that Google won't change their minds and not actually release all the important stuff? I swear I think I remember that HC was SUPPOSED to be open and they pulled back on it because it was "not refined enough" or some BS.

Alzheimer's or does anyone else remember that?
[TouchPad Development] greengiant:
so far the biggest problem porting to the touchpad is that there are few devices with the 8x60 qualcomm chipset that the touchpad uses. therefore building from scratch makes the most sense. if you've looked at the other android threads so far you'd see that alot of work has gone into building a proper build; devs have had to find touchscreen drivers.

also i find webos excellent for multitasking. i use a ubuntu chroot partition that works great for testing web code for school and webos for music/youtube/video etc.

the biggest benefit of android and cm7 will definitely be apps.

search is your friend :D
[TouchPad Development] Mikesus:
next time ask them how long it takes to fish...
[TouchPad Development] globalnano:
do you think the touchstone will work with android? at least charging..?

otherwise i would sell my touchstone..
[TouchPad Development] eleme:
What else would it do?

PM me about selling it.
[TouchPad Development] decalex:
As much as I would like to take it off your hands, yes, it's a hardware thing-- no reason why it shouldn't work.

Lol. sheisty.
[TouchPad Development] decalex:
Touchpad Touchstone review
[TouchPad Development] Stroid01:
dalingrin

Video update will definitely be tomorrow

11 hours ago

should see something new today
[TouchPad Development] mattmiller:
Def I saw that when it was posted 10mins after him posting :). I have six touch pads that I bought off other ppl and I'm gonna throw android on them and give two to my family and the other three sell for $250. :).
[TouchPad Development] aviking:
When CM does release this will we be able to dual boot android and web OS?
[TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
this has been answered at least 10 times already, the answer is yes.
[TouchPad Development] mattmiller:
Aviking must had heard about how the now dead touchdroid was going to require you to erase your tablet and replace webos with android. But of course it was garbage android so yeah. But yeah,it will dual boot. Reminds me of my old hd2 ;)
[TouchPad Development] muyoso:
Wonder if there will be a way initially to just wipe WebOS the hell of the tablet completely. I not only have no use for that OS, but have actual contempt for it because it reminded me of Windows Mobile with the number of bugs.
[TouchPad Development] aviking:
Exactly.

Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate the helpful response.
[TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
Another video coming soon (When Youtube is done processing the video).
[TouchPad Development] arda99:
video update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApfeSj4Ql6Q
[TouchPad Development] Sine.:
[YOUTUBE]ApfeSj4Ql6Q[/YOUTUBE]

(Edit : Been too slow, already posted above...)
[TouchPad Development] falcoxda:
Wow, that's impressive. What else are they still working on?
[TouchPad Development] SS2006:
wow its looking ready

can we get flash it already :D
[TouchPad Development] kxxstarr:
9-20 Cyanogenmod update

http://youtu.be/ApfeSj4Ql6Q

Newest cyanogenmod update video
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
If it was ready CM would have a release out.
[TouchPad Development] stangri:
Is it just me or does the Dungeon Defenders look cropped on the right side? Any ideas why? Does TP has non-standard (for android tablets) aspect ratio or screen size?

PS. Please spare me "cuz CM ain't ready" bs.
[TouchPad Development] dwl99:
Woo hoo! Surely there can't be much more left to do now?
[TouchPad Development] falcoxda:
It's a phone operating system (designed for phone resolutions) on a tablet. Bound to be some weirdness. Touchpad also doesn't have the same resolution as honeycomb tablets either.
[TouchPad Development] evil-doer:
i have a question to the devs or anyone else that may know.

has the nfc chip been identified in the touchpad and will that be usable by android?

hp calls it touchstone, just like the dock, but it is also in other webos devices like the pre3. its not static like rfid, it can send data between the devices like nfc. heres a video showing what i mean.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc7bQzbGd7k
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
I am pretty sure there is no NFC chip/module in the Touchpad and that was only done through bluetooth.
[TouchPad Development] evil-doer:
actually i did some more reading and it does have nfc, but its not standard nfc. so itll probably only work with other hp devices.

its not bluetooth, the touchstone dock even has an nfc chip in it to identify itself to the touchpad as unique.
[TouchPad Development] mattmiller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApfeSj4Ql6Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player the newest update
[TouchPad Development] markp1989:
Wow, they are progressing pretty quickly.

Looiking fw to a release :)
[TouchPad Development] knightnz:
It's a similar concept, but uses an incompatible system (different frequency to start with).

Some info here: http://www.precentral.net/touchstone-v2-has-identity-not-nfc
[TouchPad Development] Joker Fuel:
When I got lectured by the hp trainer when the tp came out, they said there is a nfc chip that is only compatible with a hp smart phone they were planning to release. Shame (that they were going to release a phone)
[TouchPad Development] Stroid01:
found this poking around today..not sure if its been posted but its a nice way to track progress.

http://code.google.com/p/cmtouchpad/issues/list
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
Thanks man! Check this out too.

http://code.google.com/p/cmtouchpad/updates/list
[TouchPad Development] brooon:
Yeah, found that too. And I think the "Devs" would love to see nobody posting there...I´m really happy to get the possibility to monitor their progress. So please: No more "Normally I wouldn't comment, especially since the Devs have asked us not to..."...just to make a comment afterwards.
[TouchPad Development] Amco:
Sweet, great work guys!
[TouchPad Development] Deltido:
I'll be donating as soon as they release a functional version as posted in that video. This is going to put all kinds of life into my TouchPad. Have they made any mention on how long battery life is while running android?
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
AFAIK battery stats is not working yet. So it is hard to say at this point.
[TouchPad Development] reverendkjr:
Power management is still being tweaked, but so far it appears to be decent. Battery indicator IS working on current build.
[TouchPad Development] wings9130:
do you guys know how much memory it would possibly take up on the touchpad to get android running on it assuming it is dual boot? I'm wondering if it is better to get the 16gb or 32 gb touchpad. Also i'm going to give my touchpad to a friend since I bough 2. Can I change the email on the web os account? I read somewhere that the account can't be changed on these. thanks.
[TouchPad Development] roundeye1987:
I'm not sure where, but there should be an option in the settings area that lets you de-register the device and register it to a new used. Don't quote me, but I believe I saw it somewhere in there.
[TouchPad Development] Deltido:
Thanks guys for the responses. I'm glad battery life seems to be 'decent', This is all coming together rather nicely.
[TouchPad Development] guruleenyc:
I feel more excited for CM7 to be released for the TouchPad than I was for Christmas when I was a little boy....
[TouchPad Development] Plancy:
Me tooo i'm checking every hour for a new video or information :(.
[TouchPad Development] LordDavon:
I got 2x 32GB Touchpads. One for me and one for my daughter. Honestly, for the extra little bit of cash, the 32GB units are well worth it. If you can swing the extra cash, don't even hesitate to get the additional storage. Just in movies and music, you can put quite a large amount of items on the thing.
[TouchPad Development] SynGamer:
We're looking at about 5-6 hours on the TP right now with webOS, will Android be comparable/longer?
[TouchPad Development] soneracar:
off topic but not sure how you only get 5-6 hours. I get no less than 10 hours of use at one time. On and off I can be on it for 2-3 days without problem.
[TouchPad Development] sneef:
Still off topic, but I concur. Great battery life. Feels about same as my wifi iPad 2. The drainage "slope" seems a little different, but probably just due to differences in reporting. Overall life seems about same, or better. 10 hrs or a bit more. Days of light use. Charged several days ago and I'm at 43%, but only web browsing and one 23 min American Dad episode.
[TouchPad Development] SynGamer:
I'm talking pure usage. I can leave it in standby for a few days and it will drop a few % at the most.

EDIT: checking my stats it looks like I get roughly 7 hours of usage.
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
I'd say the same actually.
[TouchPad Development] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
I know I'm going to sound like one of 'those guys' with this response. Can't help it.

To all of the people asking how battery life will be: Do you have a smartphone that you've loaded custom roms on? Have you tried several? Have you tried various apps that help/reduce battery life?

The correct answer to all of those questions is YES!

Thus, how accurate do you think any battery predictions could be on a pre-alpha build of an OS? I would suspect that battery life will not be optimized initially. It may be at an acceptable level, but I doubt that's the main focus of development right now.

Once a working build is released, many people will start tearing apart the base code to make improvements, mods, Kernel enhancements, etc.

How about we quit asking 'will it do X' until we have a decent & stable release?
[TouchPad Development] SynGamer:
Considering this is a discussion forum, I don't see the harm in asking. I also wouldn't mind seeing how battery life is in it's current state of alpha-ness. :)
[TouchPad Development] benrees21:
Hope it ain't long now till we get a release. I'm more interested in what steps we will have to take to get the Android realease on the TP.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Netarchy 1.4.0 CFS Kernel
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
I believe they have an automatic installer, so yea, installation should be no problem.
[TouchPad Development] benrees21:
Sweeeeet!

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Netarchy 1.4.0 CFS Kernel
[TouchPad Development] hyl768s:
Count me in 2. I prefer Android more than the Web OS. I just got my 32GB $149.99 free shipping shipped last Friday. Can't wait to OC it.
[TouchPad Development] teamgs:
Where did you find one for that price?

Gary
[TouchPad Development] chrishull85:
If you haven't already seen there is now an update thread that lets you see how complete the build is over on RootzWiki. Please dont spam it with ETA requests :)

http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5682-Build-Progress-Updated-9-26
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
This is more helpful http://code.google.com/p/cmtouchpad/issues/list. That info had been post by darkred for a while now.
[TouchPad Development] decalex:
Yes, please

. . NS4G . . CM7 . .
[TouchPad Development] thesmoth:
Gonna wait it out until honeycomb is one there. Seems like maybe webOS would be better than gingerbread... Maybe not, I guess it has no apps...
[TouchPad Development] decalex:
Unless there's new development, i don't think they're planning on honeycomb. I think ice cream sandwich is eventual goal.

. . NS4G . . CM7 . .
[TouchPad Development] nunjabusiness:
I would hope they skip over Honeycomb and go straight to ICS since the source will actually be released shortly (unlike HC.)

I believe most of the devs will agree that trying to port Honeycomb to it would be an incredibly difficult and not-very-beneficial project.

Could be wrong. :rolleyes:
[TouchPad Development] thesmoth:
Why is it that they didn't release the honeycomb source, and instead will release the ICS right away?
[TouchPad Development] erick161:
from the get go google said honeycomb was NOT made for phones and never wanted it on phones, thus never releasing the code. ICS will unify phone and tablet, therefore the source can be released.
[TouchPad Development] thesmoth:
Awesome, i'm super excited about getting it on the touchpad. Still haven't got my touchpad yet, it's in transit, but I played with a couple of honeycomb tablets again tonight and I think it's a pretty nice system.

The xoom seems a bit choppy, but i'm betting an overclocked touchpad would run it really nicely.
[TouchPad Development] viper786:
Is there anywhere I can track the progress of the CM port?

I can't seem to find it

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
[TouchPad Development] Sebz4n:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5682-Build-Progress-Updated-9-25
[TouchPad Development] Nburnes:
http://code.google.com/p/cmtouchpad/updates/list
[TouchPad Development] viper786:
Thank you! Will send thanks later from computer.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
[TouchPad Development] Silver_172:
I am doing the same i Enjoy the Web OS Software, Its new its Easy to use , But would love Honycomb on there , As you said , i feel that Web Os is above 2.3 , but not 3.0
[TouchPad Development] lioryte:
You are correct, Honeycomb is closed source, you won't be seeing it.
[TouchPad Development] I Am Marino:
Exactly, wish people would understand this.
[TouchPad Development] decalex:
Well, consider that the general population (here) thinks that the 'next' android version is better.. Which they should. Honeycomb was kind of a half baked ____ (I can't think of a good dessert reference)

. . NS4G . . CM7 . .
[TouchPad Development] nunjabusiness:
Not saying I don't like Honeycomb, it is actually VERY nice and snappy on my G-tablet. However, the only reason we got it is because there were several devices with the same hardware platform (or VERY similar) that had ROMs to be hacked.

I understand that is NOT the case with the TP, so getting Android (any version) is a much tougher job. You really have to hand it to the CM guys to be this far along.