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[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Clevo89:
Noob here....

I have this phone and bought it about 3 weeks ago. It's my first smartphone and did a little research on the reviews.

From my perspective, being a total noob, so far I've been really happy with the X5. Sure, battery life is horrible and the camera could be better but I've managed to take some nice shots and some OK video. For me it's great to have this capability in my pocket and liberating to be able to catch up on the day's news and podcasts siting by the pond in the backyard in the morning.

Strangely perhaps I haven't been having problems with the reported wifi problems nor any problems with the Hi Suite software from Huawei.

I have had a couple of little glitches but nothing a quick re-boot hasn't fixed.

My first android has exceeded my expectations but I come from a point of nothingness.

Towards the end of it's 1 year warranty I plan doing all what seems to be the fun things to do like rooting and other fiddling around :)

Even after reading about the X5 shortfalls I'm still happy with what I have and don't feel inferior at this stage.

I bought the phone for $AUD260. Have spent around $25 on apps and around a further $25 on accessories...like extra mini USB cables for my various stations where I can charge the phone, a in-car charger just in case, a case and some screen protectors.

I've been having fun on my X5 and that's what it all comes down to for me.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] policeman0077:
seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz

so it may only use 2G data service in North American
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.

Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
You're exaggerating with 3 days... The most I ever got on this phone is 51h and that without using it at all, mostly on stand by the whole time...And I've tried ALL Roms available till today.

I'm 100% sure that NOBODY got 72 h of this phone.

You probably didn't had many phones and don't have a good term of comparison...This phone has average battery life and only on Gingerbread Roms. On any Froyo Roms, you'll be lucky to get 20 h out of it.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lateris:
Pros:

If you can root it and install a good ROM, it can become really fast, faster than many android phones (except dual core).

Very nice price.

It seems expensive and has a really sturdy exterior. The screen crystal is also very hard and resistant to scratches.

It is fully featured (sensors, very nice screen, high resolution, etc).

I had not the slightest problem with any of its subparts (bluetooth, GPS, camera). (Maybe I am lucky, though).

If you root it and install a good ROM, video recording becomes very good.

If you dont play with it all the time, battery lasts for one day or two.

You catch friends with iPhones 1 and 3G looking at it with envy.

You catch friends with iPhones 4 looking at you with envy, as soon as they hear its price and find out about the prices of apps at android market. (They paid for many of the apps you will get free).

Cons:

As with all smartphones, if you play demanding 3D games, in 2-3 hours you will need to find a wall socket (so this is not really a con).

Something with the multitouch doesn't seem perfect. I don't know why.

It's not an iPhone.

It has not a dual core CPU.

It's not a tablet.

If you are amongst some friends with iPhones, you will still not have one.

Conclusion: I am very happy with the X5. My wife wants to steal it from me, and she plays with it all the time. She already has finished many games on it (Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Diversion, Cut the Rope and others). I managed to read two books on it, while on vacations.

It was a good buy.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
It's the BEST phone in the market right now. Show me other 250$ phone who beats this one. THERE IS NO SUCH. So stop say it's bad..

And for those who have no idea what is cameras - Pixels have NOTHING to do with quality in fact it's apposite. Bacause non DSLRs just makes pixels from other pixels, so those ones are just ****. So in many cases is better to shoot in lower resolution. And the most important thing without the matrix - is optics. And optics cost A LOT! I don't even know why da F they put cameras in phones?! Who prints photos from phones??! I use my DSLR cause i need best quality and ONLY DSLR cameras have quality. I would ban cameras in phones. Cause most of them is used by kids to film illegal ****. Fighting, ****ing and so on. YEah offtopic..who cares? :D

AND there is Pros of buying china made items: parts are SOO cheap!! Batery cost 3-5$ How much does iPhone battery costs? :D Or any other part?

And china batteries even NOT explodes like some of fruit brand's does :D

AND the biggest PRos is: YOU're SMART! Dumb people buys HTC, IPHONE cause they have no idea in hardware or other stuff, they just victims of marketing and social hysteria or just like Charlie Sheen - doesnt know where to spend money.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
:)) The best phone :)) you mean the best phone under $290 or whatever the retail price is, cause it's not $250...But, you're dreaming if you actually believe this is "the best phone in the market right now"

A simple search will give you 2 results with same or better specs, much better brands and for a similar price (20-30 bucks more):

Sony-Ericsson Xperia X10 - $319 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Sony...66466?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item3f0d1bd122

Motorola Defy - $339 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Moto...98181?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item3f0cc55365

"Dumb people buys HTC", it's probably time for you to wake up...you probably have no idea on HTC phones prices or you're confusing this company with Samsung or Apple...

An HTC Desire is $380 - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HTC-New-...89532?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4cf556521c

An HTC Desire HD, which is far superior to any Huawei phone out there is $435:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HTC-Desi...85560?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2a13090898

Comparing the specs and components quality, do you still think it's worth paying $290 for a Huawei X5 or $380 for an HTC Desire?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Clevo89:
I'm lucky if I get 8h but I have to admit it's still the novelty factor that's causing it. I just can't help myself and turn it on.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
x5 beats the desire by a generation, so yeah, it's worth it
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
A generation of what?? HTC Desire (updated version), has more RAM, 1Ghz CPU, good GPU and best part is that has more than 20 fully functional 2.3.5 Roms, including official support from Cyanogen.

How many 100% functional 2.3.5 Roms do you know for X5?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
a generation of cpu, gpu and chipset
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
You clearly don't get what frequency means and processing speed...but it doesn't matter, keep thinking that Huawei X5 is the best phone...it doesn't matter that you struggle to use Bluetooth or other features. ;)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
you clearly can't read a simple spec sheet
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
yep, you're right, frequency is not on the specs...I made that up. :)) Typical "know it all", but understand nothing...

Huawei is improving, but it's way way behind HTC and this is my last comment on the matter.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
god you're hardheaded. frequency does't mean anything when comparing different architectures but here we're comparing very similar ones and desire's cpu is older, desire's gpu is older and desire's chipset is older (although by new qualcom denominations from the same generation) and the frequency doesn't mean anything.

let me elaborate, x5's cpu can run on 1,8 ghz as you know, why do you think huawei didn't set it at that and marketed x5 as a first 1,8 ghz phone? i'll tell you why, cause it kills battery life. that 200mhz difference is the least important thing in the whole spec sheet.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
Well I definately have around 72 hours of battery life, of course only when I am working a lot and don't play with the phone at all (wifi is on 24/7). I loose about 5-10% over night, and around 20-30% throughout the day.

I really did not have a lot of phones, so you are right, I do not have much to compare it with.

It is illegal to film that where you live? Do you live in the vatican?:D

Exactly, we are all smart and they are all stupid. That is actually the only reason I bought this phone: Telling other people how stupid they are, it really is the biggest PRos.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
I know I said that was my last comment, but here we go...

Ok, a few months older, doesn't mean anything. Higher operating frequency means faster execution...Why did you mention the 1.8Ghz if you say that frequency doesn't mean anything? You're contradicting yourself.

Just so you understand, what you're mentioning here is overclocking and both platforms can be overclocked to similar values (stable at 1.5ghz)...

The reason why Huawei didn't leave it at 1.8 or anything above 1ghz, is because it's unstable, reboots etc...That's obvious, but not for you.

Now, if you think that CPU used in X5 is faster, why did Huawei limit the frequency to 800mhz and HTC the SnapDragon to 1Ghz?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
dude, you have serious issues.

and you're intentionaly misinterpreting previous posts. frequency doesn't matter when comparing different architectures, clock doesn't matter, only, let's call it, performance per mhz. but that doesn't matter here.

anyway, to prove you don't know what are you talking about here's this, copied from the specs:

1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset

800 MHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM 7230 Snapdragon chipset

first is desire, and second is x5. so this is no scorpion vs snapdragon duel, they both have scorpion cpus and are built on the snapdragon platform with desire having an older model and a clearly inferior gpu found in such phones as zte blade which costs 1/4 of desire's price.

200mhz difference here is only cause huawei wanted longer battery life and didn't have good kernel developers to balance frequency and battery life.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
That was an error, both Scorpion CPUs, built on SnapDragon chipsets, that was my bad. In my view, higher frequency means more processing power, simple as that. That "battery life" excuse that you mention is just a load of cr..

Run a benchmark with both phones on the default frequency (which I did by the way, with CyanogenMod) and you'll see that Desire comes in front, with the older GPU.

But, the real thing that I don't like about the X5 is the **** components like Bluetooth (on the Desire, it is working with my car kit from outside the car, but with the X5, it is disconnecting from within the car) or the fact that you have to shout sometimes, so the other party can hear you...

Stupid things like these, make this phone incomparable with real manufacturers like HTC/SAMSUNG/MOTOROLA. :(
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
benchmark them both on 1ghz, i would really like to know the results
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
katu2006 - you're victim right now of brand wars i think.

Yes X5 cost me 255 exactly from china sellers. And maybe if i touch those your mentioned phones then i can feel the diference but the only difference i can see now is only design and brand. All those phones are **** too. Go and read and as X5 many people is telling those phones are crap.. in fact EVERYONE with any brand phone tells their phone is ****. I have friend he owns Samsung galaxy S II and he saiys that it's **** with poor battery life. [and costs 3x the X5 ]

And Huawei is kinda new with phones and it is becoming huge. Even in my country i can buy one of Huaweis phones! And my country do not buy unknown brands. (yea brainwashed too)

I better buy 2 X5 then 1 HTC :D And all your links is to sellers who ships from china.. If HTC was so cool-there will be no way to get them from there. Try get iPhone from china :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lateris:
I overclock the CPU to 1300 Mhz and I have no reboots and everything runs perfectly. So the effective speed of my X5 is 1300 Mhz.

Others overclock it to 1500 and have the same perfect results.

In 1300 Mhz is way faster than other Android phones...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] seifed:
Xperia X10, Desire and Defy have outdated hardware.

Also, X10 and Desire have fake multitouch.

It's really not. Battery life is a joke. Also it has lots of build quality issues which is just ridiculous.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
You guys didn't get my point...I did tests first hand and I know that even the "old" HTC Desire has much better components than Huawei X5. Done tests with both phones and honestly, performance wise without overclocking, they are similar...But in terms of Bluetooth, camera, microphone etc, the Desire is performing much better.

The bottom line is, this phone is FAAAAAR from being "The best phone on the market" like one of you was saying... it's not even close to be a fully operational phone, for that matter.

Let me say something else about this phone. Go anywhere (besides China) to a repair shop and say "I've got a problem with my Huawei, can you have a look at it?", you'll get a simple answer: "What phone is that? No, sorry".

Why do you think repair shops don't wanna get involved with this phone? I'll tell you why, because it's got **** components, that nobody heard about.

Or even worse, try to get a trade-in for another phone...The shop will say: "Nope, we don't take Chinese phones. If you had an HTC, Samsung we could do something..."

I know this first hand...But that's ok, all of you will experience this...I promise you :)

You will get $50-$100 for your phone, after a few months of usage. ;)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
You gotta be kidding. :) Do you have an HTC Desire HD? Nope, but you "heard" battery sucks...

Yeah right, "build quality issues"...like??

Dude, Desire HD gets double the points that X5 gets on any benchmark...That doesn't ring any bells?

Never mind... cause this is going off-topic.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
You're not making much sense here...but flash news for you, even Iphones are designed in US, but made in China...The fact that you can buy HTC from China, has nothing to do with anything.

So, those were just some examples where you can buy those phones cheaper and NOT all of them are from Chinese suppliers...grab some glasses. ;)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
Smart people do not use built-in camera - they use photo cameras for that not phones. And who aspects that phone will shoot like good camera? I do not so this camera is super for me, cause i do not use it :D

MICs cost not more than 20-50 cents so all phones have the same quality mics.

THis phone have the same components as almost all phones in the world. memory chips and so on. There is not much manufacturers so many phones uses the same components. Of course because of it's 2 times lower price than any other relative phone - they somehow made it to get this price so yes there is cheap parts, but we must talk about the core parts - cpu/gpu/gps/ram/flash. Wi-fi, bluetooth is not so important. If they work-there is no metter which chip it is.

I'm kinda smart guy in psychology and i can tell - there will always be everything bad if you want it to be. You ca buy Porsche and hate it. SO i think this is more of personal view to things.

You saying that we get 100$ for it after month.. I can bet you won't get it for 200$ in next 6 month! :) It's already half year after release and in ebay the lowest price is 300$ Even my 5 years old Nokia 6300 cost 100$ :DD And i'm to poor to buy HTC or samsung :D
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
I think you're misinterpreting my posts...

I said you'll get $50-$100 for your phone, if you wanna sell it, after a few months. I was trying to say that it depreciates like a pair of shoes...not like a phone. ;)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
this is just not true, it can't get 2x the points no matter what you do.

the battery cover sucks indeed and the battery itself last about 3/4 of normal smartphone battery life.

and you can't fix it pretty much everywhere cause i know a billion carriers that have huawei phones in their offers, in fact all of the carriers in my country have one or more huawei phones.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] seifed:
Maybe yours is just defective?

I don't have any problems with mic, don't know about bluetooth, but it seems to be okay for most people.

Camera is good enough for it's purposes, like scanning barcodes and ****.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
Nope, replaced it already...And BT is not OK for anybody...not sure where you get your input.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Tommixoft:
THis topic is like which brand is better in DSLR CANON or NIKON.

THe point is that - there is no in the market right now better deal then Ideos X5. You can tell what ever you want -there is no! If Ideos x5 is so ****ty why i can't find ANY one who sells it? There should be plenty of sellers on ebay (like many sells HTC, motorola and so on).

All review sites reviewed it as a superb phone. The thing is that we don't aspect from it to be 500$ value phone. Of course HTC is better in some points, but price is not for everybody, this is just a phone, not car. In my country you can buy car for 400$
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lateris:
If you buy one expensive Android phone and one as cheap as the Ideos X5, after 1 or 2 months you will find you have the same phone.

So it is not really a good decision to not choose the X5. A close friend of mine have a Samsung Galaxy and I have a X5. No real difference, except mine is obviously faster because I rooted it and I use a custom ROM.

But phones are not PCs where you need the extra speed to make your life easier. They are not professional cameras, even if you give a lot of money for it (photos taken by mobiles are always crappy). They are not televisions or backup drives or ...

And even the most expensive phone can turn out really problematic.

So, qudos to Huawei for giving us a very good android phone for half the price of other Android Phones of its caliber...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
Well there you go. I still have 17% left which is enough to get 12 more hours. I did only let it drain this far for the screenshot, usually I load the battery every night. Playing MythDefense for an hour or so you can clearly see that the phone was not on standby the whole time. Haven't done much other stuff though, about 20 sms per day and only a few minutes of calling. Wifi was on all the time, 3G was turned off.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
Still not 3 days...I'm getting pretty close to 55h, but not 72h and I don't think you'll reach 72h with 17%. Every time you get close to 15%, it only lasts 2-3 h tops and turns off.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
I do have to test this, I don't recall it dropping any faster.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lateris:
I am using a 2.3.5 ROM (Oxygen) after two months with a 2.2 ROM.

With the later ROM my battery lasts really longer.

Obviously, Gingerbread (2.3 Android) is much better programmed than Froyo (2.2 Android).

Now, my battery lasts way over 2 days. If I leave my phone sleeping for 3-4 hours and it was 100% charged when it started to sleep, when I wake it up it is still at 100%.

I think the battery problem is fixed.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] liangse:
Having this phone for a month, I said it's very decent. Battery seems good for me, last about 2 days with my regular use. With this phone I can play hd games, even tegra 2 game with chainfire 3d app. For comparission, my optimus one cost almost same but can't do what my x5 do. So I say it's worth every penny
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] shuiyunxingzuo:
Buy Defy,not U8800. Trust me .
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] lateris:
No, we don't trust you. This is a discussion about Ideos X5's pros and cons.

If someone wanted to buy a Defy, he would read about it in that mobile's pros and cons, not here.

If you want to make a comparison between these two phones, why don't you post your comparison?
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] hafirangi:
My opinion

after reading this thread and having both SGS(captivate) and x5 i wanna give my opinion on this mobile. i also had a wildfire so i will compare it at times.

SGS= darkyrom 10.2(best bettery life GB.)

x5 = latest cm7.1( amazing battery)

SGS - X5

camera	4.5 - 3 (would have given sgs 5 but sgsII cam is better)

touch	4.5	- 3 ( 5 but iphone 4 touch got me)* i am iphone hater ;)

proccessing 4.5	- 4 (x5 never let me down i played HAWX on both never got any problem) not over clocked.wildfire too slow

bootloader 4	- 5 (i know u think new rom should be included belive me its so easy to brick sgs , x5 soo easy copy>paste done.

new rom	3.5 - 5 (intalling CWM pain in a$$ in sgs, x5 never been easy.)

Video	4	- 2.5 (man x5 lost me there, but i am not a photographer ;)

app storage	4	- 4 (2 gb for both device,X5 after tweak.)

data storage 4	- 3 ( SGS 6gb , x5 2gb. but sd card slot is there on both.)

battery	3	- 4 (x5 be 4.5 but wildfire gives lot more juice. see #)

glass	4	- 3 (sgs gorilla is superior to x5 finger print proof.)

build	4.5	- 3 (4.5 for captivate but sgs is ok , x5 is not bad build i dontunderstand what ppl are complaining about never had problem with x5 wifi, BT, GPS ect.

TOTAL SGS 44.5 , X5 39.5

#I calculate battery wid few things display time as it shows how much the mobile been active by user,total time on battery and voice calls. i hardly make more than 30 min of call in a day.so it comes to display time SGS never more thn 4 hours 3:30 on average.wid battery time 2 day at most. so if i use it for 4 hours non-stop right after 100% charge it will die in 4 hours.

while x5 up to 5 hours display, 3days of battery time.yesterday i saw a whole movie(100+ mins.) which as on my pc, via wifi on my x5 and lost only 40% battery :eek: amazing.

but wildfire beat them both 6-7h didplay 3-4 day battery time.

i got used x5 for $170, it was clean as new.i mean new as brand new.

i price of used sgs(not captivate) is $ 290, same clean condition.

both unlocked no contract.

captivate is cheaper here( in kuwait) coz dosnt support arabic.;) so I got it cheaper.

Conclusion

SGS = 44.5/55 --$290.

X5 = 39.5/55 --$170.

wildfire ---$150.(little scratched.)

of-course sgs is better but x5 gives bang for buck.

so if i was to buy a budget phone i say x5 , if i could afford one SGS all the way or may be SGSII(:p) simply love sgsII gr8 phone.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] iamelton:
why rate camera twice? ;)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] n0_xQuZe:
Personally i like huawei ideos x5 a lot but it the camera dissapointed me very much, it really is bad, very bad, even the settings in camera menu lag alot, not to mention about the video quality when the lighing is not optimal. if it had a good camera and maybe radio then it would be the best bang for the buck.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] hafirangi:
sorry one is for image other for video , post now edited.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] jasonak0s:
till now my x5 is a hero, doesnt stuck anywhere and has powerful hardware!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] dionero:
Hardware wise x5 is quite good but without software support I'm not sure if it really matters, no update has been published and I don't think there'll ever be one. Also for anyone thinking about buying this phone I'd advise buying something else with a good price for money value and

a better manufacturer who would stand by their device

.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] ppetermann:
Im quite happy with my u8800, great price to value.

I haven't

really run it on stock though. Genos cm7 port makes this phone great.

That said, there is one down side to the device, its batteries don't hold for that long, even with no apps running it holds for only about a day.

Regards, PP