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[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
Getting out of contract? Yes it does or I would be paying $150 out of pocket for my ET4G instead of getting $150 from best buy AND an ET4G...on a new number. Old number is ported to gVoice.

There are a couple key points:

1.) Make sure that you are firm and polite. If you hit a brick wall hang up and try again with somebody more cooperative.

2.) Know that while their contract verbiage may allow for the charge to go up to $1.99 that same contract also states that any materially adverse change (to you) is grounds for a fee free contract termination.

3.) GET A CONFIRMATION NUMBER AND HAVE IT PUT IN YOUR ACCOUNT NOTES

4.) Make sure that your reason for cancelling is ONLY because you object to the material change in your contract. Slipping in anything else can foil you.

5.) After you are finished request an email verifying what you have just discussed.

6.) They will pummel you with FUD to try to keep you from leaving.

So far as I understand it they do NOT have to allow you to go month to month, this is also on a line-by-line basis as each line has it's own contract. You do NOT have to cancel all lines. It is your right to take your number with you.
[Epic 4G General] puff601:
I got a $5 credit on my bill every month for this change... Upgrade eligibility doesn't matter to me :)
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
good luck with that approach. I don't know when you did it or if it ever worked but there's no way it's going to fly now. they've gone to great lengths to tell their personnel to tell anyone who complains about the $1.99 to go screw.

and, let's be honest, there's no way that fee increase could ever be considered "materially adverse." if that increase was really enough to break you or anyone else, you shouldn't have a phone at all.
[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
Contract law doesn't care how much you make, how much you can afford or how insignificant a charge is. It is considered materially adverse if Sprint changes the terms to get more money (material) from you (averse), by altering the contract.

...they can't exactly walk into a court room and say "We know what the contract specifically states, but c'moooonnnnnn your honor."

This is law. They have no wiggle room except confusion, fear, uncertainty and doubt.

They got you convinced didn't they?
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
except that the service agreement mailed with your phone when it was shipped states the $1.99 cap. good luck getting a lawyer to take that case.
[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
That same agreement also states that ANY material change lets you get out for free.

...now, I'm not entirely sure why they would put two apparently conflicting statements in there....

...but me and many others have gotten (and still are getting) out of their contract.
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
ok, so your claim is that Sprint will let you out of your contract and allow to walk to another carrier free of charge?
[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
From September 9th until October 9th. Check out the (very popular) thread in the E3D General sub-forum. This has works and is working. Now they won't let customers go without a fight...or confusion...but they will let you go. They are getting more difficult to deal with as they get practice, but, this is legit.

I'm not the only one.

Honestly I thought this popped up in every Sprint device sub-forum every time this came up...it usually happens about once a year. The thread has been going for weeks.

All of the arguments have been covered and considered long ago....

EDIT: link - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1226343 ...it finally slipped off the front page and into obscurity today.
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
and what number are you calling when you make this firm but polite request?
[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
I just called customer service and listened to all the options until I heard the one for "cancel line", I believe it was option 5 on the menu....check that thread there are tons of numbers given if you want to try different departments specifically.

Some claim more luck with retentions, others less.

EDIT: The first lady I got was a brick wall (and a *****), but the second guy I got when I called back was very friendly, helpful and up front. He told me that they were instructed to "expect these calls" and to "ultimately let them cancel if they want to cancel"...he said that repeatedly. I think that's key. "Ultimately"....
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Trust me...it no longer works. They are considering the fee change under taxes and line charges so have put a halt on it as of Monday. I spoke to several people in the Executive offices today to no avail.
[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
Well, this is possible...I haven't visited that thread in a while since I got out. Though that still seems skeevy and I can't help but be skeptical....it isn't a tax it is rather specifically an "administrative fee"...
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Besides the increase in the fee, they made a few other changes to the contract. They changed who arbitrates between yourself and them in a dispute. I used to be any agreed upon 3rd party, such as a lawyer of firm of your choosing. Now all arbitration is done through a third party arbitrator refered to as JAMZ. They are know to side heavily with the telecoms during arbitration.

This is also a material change to the contract.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
wouldn't almost doubling the ETF be grounds for getting out of your contract? or is that only when you upgrade to your next phone
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Well since everyone all the way up to Dan Hesse now says it is locked down with no early upgrades or waived ETFs then your only choice is to leave and get a lawyert fight it. I believe that Sprint will not release your number for porting in this case as well but anyone with success please report it. I tried all day today.
[Epic 4G General] Ecliptical:
I smell a Class Action lawsuit coming...
[Epic 4G General] daneurysm:
Arbiters in general are well known to side with big companies for the simple reason that making the big company happy will like ensure more employment whereas making one lone customer happy will yield a happy customer and no future work...

I can't fault Sprint for anything they are doing. When they say they are doing it to 'stay competitive' they aren't kidding. They lost millions...tens of millions...hundreds of millions(?) in the past year. As long as they maintain a reasonable network (speed, reliability, signal) at a reasonable price I don't mind their corporate crookedness matching their peers.

Not that I agree with any of the companies being crooked, but, their own 'perks' are likely working against their own best interests so they have only 'evened out' the playing field so to speak...hopefully their service will follow that trend....of evening out with their peers....not getting worse to 'stay competitive'

....I'm not actually that hopeful :(

---------- Post added at 08:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:54 PM ----------

Bingo.

Thankfully I still have one line left with a $200 ETF...I'll probably use that for the Prime, if and when.
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
Is there a class action lawsuit on this issue.
[Epic 4G General] iTouch24:
i called today after reading about premier member benefits being taken away as of 10/2/11 .. no more 25% off an no more upgrades after 1yr. Now they are just like every other carrier.

Some other changes i have noticed over time.

Any corporate discount u have only applies to primary line .. not any other line.

$10 premier service fee

ETF increased from 200 to 350

Activation charge increase from 18 to 36

the economy still sucks and people are struggling but these companies keep raising their prices.

Sprint Surcharges are not taxes or gov't-required charges and are subject to change.

The administration fee increase was told to me, that it falls under the above statement in the terms and conditions.

So i was denied any out of contract options.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
I really see fewer and fewer reasons to stay with Sprint now. Piss-poor network coverage and slow 3G due to loss of towers, Wimax that's << VZW LTE function and coverage-wise. Now Sprint is raising is fees, is making it impossible to get out of contract while doing so, raised its ETF to $350 rivaling VZW while doing _nothing_ to improve its service and nixes Sprint Premier? The only reason I was staying with Sprint was price/value. Now that is no longer the case. I routinely find myself going over my anytime minutes because I am forced to roam via Roam Control due to crap coverage in places where Sprint used to have solid coverage less than 2 years ago. I don't care about the data caps since I hardly ever use 2G of data, but I really feel I should have jumped ship sooner while VZW had the unlimited plan.
[Epic 4G General] skandranon314:
So just to be sure... I waited too long and now this no longer works?

~ Sent from my android via TapATalk
[Epic 4G General] handymanxda:
That is correct. They found a loophole or something and locked it down.
[Epic 4G General] usagi111:
Wow, I thought people had till 10/9/11...Ah well...ya snooze ya lose...
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
this barely worked in the first place - out of the possibly thousands of complaints they received only a handful of people were able to b.s. their way into the waiving of the ETF. the only reason anyone was successful, basically, is that it took a while for Sprint to disseminate the message to its staff that the increase in the fee is the customer's problem and to ignore complaints no matter what.

threads like this were bloated behind belief to try to convince people that someone found a loophole in what was essentially an insignificant case.
[Epic 4G General] nismology:
I know it doesn't help anyone at this point but I got it to work for me sometime last week. Contract was fulfilled/month-to-month with waived ETF as long as the number was ported. I just kept arguing that they couldn't prove that I agreed to the $1.99 when I signed the contract and that said cap was nowhere to be found in any current TOS documentation. None of the reps ever conceded anything really and just regurgitated what the legal department had instructed them to say but one finally caved. Took about 4-5 tries. Looks like I did it just in time too...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THUDUK:
Can you do this on the stock firmware?

Do you have to root the device and change the ROM or just the Kernel?

I read somewhere you can tweak the device so that it charges at 1000 instead of 650ma, is this true ?

Any advice would be useful, thanks
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
Don't know about any tweaks, but using just a different charger would do some better,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1213118&highlight=Fast+Cahrging

Regards.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THUDUK:
Blimey I am surprised more people don't find the slow charging the biggest problem, I can cope with the phone draining the battery fast, this I can control by turning certain things off, but the extremely slow recharge is a killer.

I would prefer to be able to charge my battery in half the time and for the battery to only last half a year than to have to endure the terribly slow charging to have a battery last a year, at it would be nice to have the option, sometimes you simply just need to quickly charge your phone, other times like overnight, it can take as long as it likes

Your thread link above seems to suggest that even using a more powerful charger than stock will not increase charge time
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veyka:
You would need to flash a custom kernel with the maximum mA draw increased, ninphetamine kernel from my sig is one such kernel.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSaw:
Just don't charge from USB. It's so much faster from the socket :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THUDUK:
I am using the Mains charger that came with the device, not USB, its way to slow
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickjb16:
Hi,

I've been reading and reading but am not fully comforatable making a decision on what to do here, really want to avoid bricking my baby :) I'm running a Bell Atrix with Version 4.2.11.MB860.Retail.en.FR. I really want Gingerbread and am tired of waiting for Bell to release it, even if they did, I would have to somehow return to a stock Bell Rom. What is my best option to upgrade right now avoiding any kind of bricking, memory or battery issues? Links would be great :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maledyris:
I don't have any links for you, as I'm on my phone right now, but as a first step you need to flash the IHOP_bell.sbf to unlock your bootloader.

This is probably the riskiest part since you're flashing an sbf, but it's small and quick. If you have osx or linux, sbf_flash actually feels safer to use than the glitchy rsd lite from moto. After that install cwm using moto-fastboot. Once you have the clockwork mod recovery system it becomes very easy to switch roms from directly on your phone. Look for gobstopper by nfhimself. He was kind enough to put together some really good stuff for us.

Something to note: 2.3.4 and cm7 are both somewhat buggy at this stage. Buggy enough that I've gone back to 2.2.2 for now. I can put up with fc's but I can't have my main phone rebooting or freezing, or having irregular battery so often :p
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheGreaser:
Not sure of all the differences between the Bell and ATT versions but there is a great n00b guide here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1154600

You still have to look around a bit to find all the things you need. Unlocking the boot loader and rooting really aren't all that difficult.

Like maledyris said, its really easy to switch ROMs once you get CWM (Clockwork Mod) installed.

I'm a n00b and had no issues following Swiftks instructions.

Be sure to pay attention and don't try something for ATT only.

Have fun!:)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crisscross1:
hi

i installed chainfire 3d at my atrix and the drivers. when i deinstalled the drivers from chainfire, i had a few graphic bugs in my homescreen and the mobile rebooted. after this my handy stuck at startscreen ("dual core technology"). waiting doesnt help and factory resets, too. i can start fastboot, android recovery etc.

now i flashed ORFR234-system.zip on my phone and after doing this, the display goes on and off, when i am at the "dual core technology"-screen. maybe my graphic driver is missing but i dont know how to fix it. please help me!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phalanx7621:
Here's what I would do. boot phone into fastboot, plug it in, navigate to your fastboot or moto-fastboot folder with command prompt, check that it detects your device, then wipe everything.

fastboot erase system

fastboot erase userdata

fastboot erase webtop

fastboot erase boot

fastboot reboot

when it reboots, reboot into recovery, do a factory reset, clear the cache and dalvik cache, and install a fruitcake 2.3.4 (stock) **obviously this would have to be put onto your external SD card cause you cant boot to phone operating system**.

yes, this is a lot of wiping. yes, some may be unnecessary. but i do it everytime and have never had any information linger from ROM to ROM. Just trying to help, hope I did / can. Good luck.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crisscross1:
Thanks, worked perfectly.

Now I can finally boot and run webtop. Thanks for the fast instructions.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Notorious544d:
Hi there, this is my first post and I have an interest in this phone. Can owners of this phone please briefly state the pros and cons of this device as it would be a real help for me (and others) to decide whether I purchase this phone or not.

I will create a list in the next post weighing out all the good and the not so good features of this phone.

Thanks in advance! :)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Notorious544d:
List of Pros/cons

The list so far:

Pros:

- Great value

- Very fast 2nd Gen Snapdragon CPU which is easily overclockable

- Adreno 205 GPU (very good graphics)

- 512mb RAM

- 2gb Internal memory

- Large 3.8" WVGA screen

- 3g / HSDPA / Wi-Fi b/g/n / Bluetooth / GPS

- 5mp Camera with 720p HD recording

- Parts are cheap to replace (batteries, chargers etc.)

- Feature packed

- Decent battery (personal preference)

Cons:

- Bulky

- Not the best aesthetics (personal preference)

- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory and Poor touchscreen/multi-touch implementation)

- Android 2.2 (However, you can easily flash a stable 2.3.5 Rom)

- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei[

- Branding (I'm being picky :p)
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
only thing i could call a con and that's really stretching it is it's relative bulkiness.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] krothold:
No dual core
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).

In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.

There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).

Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?

If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Notorious544d:
Thanks for your input. Updated list accordingly.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Notorious544d:
Just to clarify, from lack of prestige, I meant it as if somebody asks you what phone you have, and you say Huawei U8800, they'd probably think that you have a cheap chinese model. It's not really a big thing for many people but I thought it was worth mentioning.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
Pro:

- Good specs for the price

- Good battery life on 2.3.5 (unofficial)

Con:

- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)

- Real problems with official Froyo Roms, which should have never go out on the market with so many bugs/issues (not going to sleep properly, unstable wifi etc etc)

- No official Gingerbread support, even Huawei actually owns the 2.3.5. license

- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei (if you have an issue, they replace the handset and you get an identical handset with the same problem)

I would like to say, that this phone would have been one of the biggest fails on the market, if there was no support from excellent developers.

It's only because of people like Dzo, Stockwell and Genokolar, that I didn't throw this phone in the bin. :)

Huawei is fresh in the phone manufacturing industry and this handset reflects this aspect loud and clear. This is why no one really heard about it...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] darkado:
huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] katu2006:
I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Notorious544d:
Thanks for your input. It's very disappointing that you get such a great value smartphone which is spoiled by basic features and low quality components. I'm really doubting if I should get this now.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] iamelton:
everybody has a set of pros and cons on this phone, and i dont think its a good idea to make ur buying/non-buying decision purely basing on others comments..

for me, its only mattering "pro" is the high price-performance ratio..

(and one more now, after seeing such an active on-going development effort to make this phone better..)

and no "con" at all (as this is what i expect from a product of this price..)

thus if u think single-core cpu is a "con", no official support is a "con", little brand recognition (outside china) is a "con", u can alway pay a few bucks more to get dual-core, famous-branded models.. ;)

and honestly speaking, this phone is indeed NOT intended for everybody..

its just not as idiot-proof as iphone (as with most android phones..), not as good-looking (to some) as sensation, not as ego-boosting as sgs2, etc..

but its definitely easier to hack with, to manipulate with, and to brick with (not sure on this point though, as more flexibility does not necessarily imply easier brickability..)..

imho, its more suitable if u r the kind of person who would like to play with android instead of just using it..

as usual, the above represent my opinion only..
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] Notorious544d:
Between £150 - £200 is my budget. The U8800 is more towards the lower end of my budget and as I can get it at that price brand new, it is quite appealing. However, you can get other phones like a second hand Galaxy S for a bit more while still being within reach of my budget.

What I'm looking for is killer hardware as well as a good community which makes the phone easily hackable and 'tweakable.' Regarding the U8800, it has exactly what I'm looking for at the price point but if it falls short of basic things like the touch screen, then what can you do. Being a previous ZTE Blade owner, I was extremely impressed as basic functions were not sacrificed.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] XphX:
There are a lot of people that switched from the Blade to the U8800 and are quite happy it seems. I think you do not have much choices here - luckily. You can either get the galaxy s or the U8800, as you already said yourself.

If the galaxy s is in a good condition and if you can live with a phone that has no warranty anymore, I'd say go for it. For me, none of my phones ever had any hardware-problem, so I could have easily bought all of them in used condition.

It is just that buying something off ebay is risky. I do buy little stuff there every now and then, but no expensive stuff - if the seller just lies about a "little" problem and you want to return it, you probably won't see your money again. If a friend of yours sells you his used galaxy s, take it. That would be the best choice in my opinion. Either get a galaxy s that you can inspect and try out before you buy it or go for the u8800.

Bluetooth was reported to be problematic, yes; some people reporting it to be fine (I just use the headset sometimes and it works perfectly well). Mic also works perfectly fine for me. Camera is not as good as with other handsets, yes. It takes 10 minutes to make the memory useable, but I admit, what Huawei did there makes not even sense.

Froyo does not matter to me as it already is old and I would not recommend anybody to buy this phone if he wants to install Froyo.

That with Gingerbread is a shame, right now I hope for support in the future. Worst case: You won't get the new features... but: it works fast and stable already, so you won't miss more than the new features (whatever they are and will be...).

Instead we got the community. As long as everybody stays here at xda-devs or at modaco we will get support. When everybody leaves in one year or maybe in two, then you are pretty much f...on your own. On the other hand, in a year all the problems should be sorted out.

Exactly, and now it is a fast and stable phone with android 2.3.5 - at least for me it works perfectly well.