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[TouchPad Development] mrnimra:
$20 for gingerbread, $40 for honeycomb, and $5000 for Ice Cream Sandwich within the next month xP. In all seriousness, really hoping to see some android on my new touchpad! (if it ever gets through hp's credit verification that is...still waiting)
[TouchPad Development] darbear5610:
Awesome! Can't wait to see what they can do.
[TouchPad Development] mercurycn:
willing to donate 20 as well
[TouchPad Development] pinakaeus:
Does anyone know if Netflix is on this (homebrew/exploit/etc.) this would a partial dealbreaker (although I already bought it)?
[TouchPad Development] FC1032:
How many? Do you have one to spare? :p I'm in Australia and don't have these crazy deals :(

I'm vigourously looking everywhere for one... and in hope an android port is available :|
[TouchPad Development] TravisAntonio:
Hey guys also check out our projects of Windows and help us to port it to the Touchpad: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202444
[TouchPad Development] Drachen808:
Officedepot.com has a banner ad that advertises the 16 GB for 129 and the 32 for 149 on their home page as of a few minutes ago.
[TouchPad Development] TravisAntonio:
Yep but It's not more shown.
[TouchPad Development] :
$99 and possible android ported? can someone please tell me if i should get one?
[TouchPad Development] Drachen808:
huh?

keep refreshing the page if you don't see it.
[TouchPad Development] Crazypinoy9:
I just ordered two 16gb and two 32gb from office depot for in store pick up. I can't wait for them to port honeycomb.
[TouchPad Development] shyam101:
TouchPad android port project fizzles, but not quite dead

http://www.androidcentral.com/touchpad-android-port-project-fizzles-not-quite-dead

T.T, They cant make a home button for the touchpad

I love webOS but I would love being able to run android apps....wish they were like QNX blackberry with the android emulator
[TouchPad Development] muyoso:
This has nothing to do with what you said really other than making me think about the home button. What will it be used for when/if we are running ICS? Customizable maybe??
[TouchPad Development] topcaser:
Dalingrin isn't as optimistic as most websites to get the port running in the near future. What a pity.

http://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin
[TouchPad Development] Matthileo:
I'm not happy about that, but they're doing what they can

[sent from my droid]
[TouchPad Development] topcaser:
Yeah, i know, they do what they can. This is just an information that things do not develop as fast as some websites state.

So that is the reason why i get some more information about webOS now. The more i play with this OS the more i like it.
[TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
Those news website state that the port is almost ready with only wifi fixing left to be done. He said, there are still a lot of things to do
[TouchPad Development] eleme:
[VIDEO] Angry Birds on HP Touchpad - 2.3.5

Not bad for a [alpha] build... Plays nice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqmp75tWfVs
[TouchPad Development] gpk:
Nice :) Are the colors off or is that just the webcam?
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
WebOS isn't terrible. I don't mind waiting. I will likely wait until ICS is ready to use before trying flashing anything.
[TouchPad Development] pas7771:
me too I'm sticking with WebOs for now, waiting for ICS or Win8.....
[TouchPad Development] arda99:
wifi progress

posted by dalingrin
[TouchPad Development] droiddawg:
So i take it that its not impossible. All they have to do is to edit the driver and we should be in business. :)

sent from my 7/23 iNfEcTeD EVO 4G
[TouchPad Development] stangri:
Since I've already seen the sort of "free-for-all" comments, can someone tell me why any missing drivers/files from the published touchpad android dump can't be used? Are there legal reasons or technical?
[TouchPad Development] sednafx:
AFAIK, the Dump was not complete.
[TouchPad Development] dalingrin:
The dump used a kernel that we do not have. CM are not the types to smack together a bunch of binary blobs. We want to build as much from source as possible. This gives us a much better chance of a smooth transition to Ice Cream Sandwich when Google releases the source.

Another way to look: With binary blobs there is a ceiling that limits how well we can get the Touchpad to work with future versions of Android. A bunch of binary blobs from a Froyo dump will almost certainly not work with Ice Cream Sandwich much less Gingerbread.

Putting in the time and work now will improve the Touchpad's Android support for the future.
[TouchPad Development] Forrest250r:
I just got my HPTp and as long as you guys are working on getting android on here and doing it like the rest of CM ports then ill patiently wait for an early xmas present! your guys work is always outstanding and always runs the greatest, so yes it may take a while but itll be worth the wait...

scored a great piece of hardware for 170 all its missing is CM! ;)
[TouchPad Development] pukemon:
Just realized theres a lot of tp being thrown around in this thread. Might want to refrain from using swipe, dual boot, ics and such. I might make fun of you. Because i dont have a tp. Yes. I know ileft myself wide open.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[TouchPad Development] daprospecta:
Not to be an ass but how can you honestly say that. WEBOS is horrible to me. The functionality is great and better than any other mobile OS but the lack of apps is horrific. Let me give you an example. I was at a hotel room the other night and I couldn't even connect to the hotel room's internet with my touchpad. Why you may ask? Because the damn agree disagree button wouldn't load in the browser(yes I tried the advanced browser and no go) when it did just fine on my evo 4g browser. Whoever is the genius that told HP this operating system was ready should have been fired because this OS needed at least 3-4 months testing and development. This isn't come from an average tech guy but a developer and if I would have released a half-assed application like this within my company, I'd have a lot of explaining to do. Alright don't ban me haha. I see the mod with the bull avatar is handing out bans but I just wanted to get that off my chest.
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
Saying "not to be an ass" before saying something assey is just like saying no offense before saying something offensive.

I can honestly say it's not that bad because it's not that bad. What other reason could I have for saying that? I have not encountered any of the issues you listed. My tablet joins wi-fi without issue. It handles my e-mail. It lets me read the stuff I read. I'm not saying I don't REALLY REALLY want Android on this thing. I'm saying that it works enough for me to get by until something stable is ready to load in to it.
[TouchPad Development] daprospecta:
OK. Just thought you were saying WEBOS is good enough for the long haul. I can agree that waiting is ok but this browser really makes me mad. I can't log-in to some websites because the log-0in button doesn't work. I bought it to be a web browser until Android drops but it doesn't do that very well. Guess I'm just trolling as they say.
[TouchPad Development] knightnz:
Have you tried another browser? (None seem to be free unfortunately)

Universe

Advanced Browser

Opera and Mozilla were supposedly working on browsers, but doesn't look like they eventuated. Maybe Moz will put one out given the number of TP's in the wild now.
[TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
Find the Ubuntu chroot guide and once you are done with it install Chromium or Firefox. problem solved?
[TouchPad Development] nidlaX:
Of course, that's what I do, doesn't change the fact that the stock webkit implementation sucks ****.

MOD EDIT:: Censored profanity. Watch your language... First and last warning.
[TouchPad Development] yeahman45:
[Q] Possibility to have tv out with android?

Possibly only the devs will be able to answer this question: is there a possibility to get tv out with android on the touchpad? is there the necessary hardware to do so?
[TouchPad Development] das7771:
This needs to be posted in the general section as it is a question. Please read the rules. As for your question I am about 99% sure that there is no way for video out unless it is done the the micro usb connection like on the Droid incredible. As far as I know the hardware doesn't exist so an android port would make no difference.
[TouchPad Development] yeahman45:
srry posted here as there are more chance a developer will read if posted here than in the general forum. Srry again
[TouchPad Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Movin' on up...
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
I saw this over on a PreCentral.net TouchPad forum

http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/298441-true-3-0-3-a-2.html

"3.04 enables the HDMI over USB feature that the hardware supports. "

Which would imply several things. That WebOS 3.04 exists (or will), that HDMI out will be possible in WebOS and by extension that it

may be possible

in Android.
[TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
Some people got their touchpads with 3.04 installed, not sure why no1 dump'd it yet
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
No no. WebOS is not acceptable long term. Android will breathe new life in to this tablet.

What page are you having that issue on? I must just be lucky and the sites I frequent work fine... With the exception of google reader. I would love to be able to ID the browser as mobile to get the amazing reader mobile interface.

I'm looking forward to DolphinHD on this thing. It's going to be F-ing A.
[TouchPad Development] Vampir1c:
Gingerbread Tablet Apps?

Okay so I'm making this thread because I can't find any general information on this. This is basically for when Android comes to the Touchpad, which apps would add to the tablet experience. For instance would we be able to install honeycomb apps if we had the apk on gingerbread? For those who own tablets with Gingerbread, do apps scale to the screen dimensions? Thanks guys, I hope this thread could become an informative one for those who have these type of questions as well.
[TouchPad Development] SpikeyPsyche:
Hopefully the Cyanogen team will include an option in the installer to either completely rip WebOS off the tablet, or allocate the minimum amount of space necessary for WebOS to function and dedicate the rest of the space to Android.
[TouchPad Development] TKG26:
sounds like when he was loggin into a hot spot similar to Bells hot spot in Starbucks.. That the buttons where not working in his browser.. So no internet access at the hotel or coffee shop..
[TouchPad Development] knightnz:
So you bought the device with the sole hope that Android will be released in a suitable everyday-driver form?

Seems to be plenty of people happy to use WebOS, email works, browser works, that's enough for most people.
[TouchPad Development] muyoso:
I am not who you quoted, but that is EXACTLY what I did. Upon receiving it and playing with WebOS, the need for Android is even clearer. Its quite clear why this tablet failed. WebOS is a great concept with a horrendous execution. And the browser is frankly awful.
[TouchPad Development] arda99:
Email doesn't work here. I use gmail and my password contains some special chars. Can't login from Webos stock email app and its confirmed to be a webos bug.

Speaking of apps, I can't believe they charge $2.99 for the stupid Advanced Browser, which is simply a crappy "shell" for stock browser. There're way better browsers on Android with their own rendering engine and they're free.

The whole ecosystem on WebOS is sick, no wondering why its dead.
[TouchPad Development] cerps:
I couldn't tell if that was said tongue in cheek or not
[TouchPad Development] yeahman45:
i just hope it is true
[TouchPad Development] topcaser:
News from Dalingrin on twitter:
[TouchPad Development] brooon:
And in adition...

And:
[TouchPad Development] benrees21:
I'll come back and check after me Christmas dinner then ;-)

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Netarchy 1.3.4 CFS Kernel
[TouchPad Development] succorso:
I, for one, would like to thank all the devs that are working hard on an android port. I check back daily for news and hope that the port comes sooner than later but I am prepared to wait while the magicians work.

Thanks again.
[TouchPad Development] firewater2003:
webOS is impressive

Am second the motion....am not after the Android/Apple application...really.

Everyday use are browsing, watching video and streaming music over the wifi...

Apps is business. But if you see how the tablet is created IMO to be an easy way for everyday life with the web.

webOS is impressive, i think this is the only Apple contender, OS wise. But HP doesnt have a patience/oppurtunity to grow and improve it to the fullest. IMO HP scared when Google buy Motorolla for 12 billion, and they will monopolized phone and tablet (IMO). So HP will backing out in this business. Wud ya think?

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webOS discontinued, do you think some other App developer(not all) will continue to update their own apps? IDTS! If HP will continue this OS, IMO this will be a contender to iOS not Android...lol.
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
I bet you own a Palm Pre.

You make it sound like it was stupid to gave faith in the developer community. I'm not a developer by any means. I'm a donater. A lot of the devices I have bought over the years have had no preamble. Just one day someone awesome did something awesome with their run of the mill device and turned it in to something amazing. Removing the restrictions that the original manufacturer put on it for no reason and then sharing with the world how it was done. I have learned the following over the years. If it has an updatable OS with a USB port it will get hacked. Cyanogen has hacked it already. They are just saying it will be a while before its ready from prime time.

In closing, I, like many others bought the touchpad for 2 reasons:

1) $150 tablet with really good guts

2) Faith in the developer community
[TouchPad Development] Ratix0:
WebOS is a really good OS no doubt. It is great, and yet ****ty at the same time with its inability to perform so many simple tasks. Web browser sucks, alternative web browser sucks as well, a lot of websites doesn't load properly. Email is great though, so is facebook app. Word/document/pdf processor sucks, and that basically means there goes any productivity work being done on the tablet. Other than that, this OS is crippled by its lack of apps (not a direct fault of webOS).

That being said, I still want to use webOS AND android, android to fill in the holes webOS couldn't, and webOS, well, its a really good OS. I love its interface, card system is all simple, neat, intuitive and amazing.
[TouchPad Development] evil-doer:
do you work for hp or something? youve gotta be kidding.

webos feels extremely unfinished, its lacking in so many areas. compared to android 3.0+ on tablets its not even comparable. and android is moving foward at a fast pace while webos has hardly budged in years.

this is all not to mention that ios is behind android. look at it, its a bunch of icons in a grid, thats the interface. this is only going to change in the future because they are copying android.

edit: heres a recent article that goes over what im talking about: http://techthirst.com/?p=414
[TouchPad Development] littlerob904:
I've experienced a lot of issues with browsing, especially with gmail. Pages often don't load properly, password logins sometimes give fits. Pages reload on their own, causing me to lose my "place" on screen, and even data in drop downs and text fields.

As an example, it took me almost 25 minutes to log into my yahoo fantasy football league last night. When I logged in the page would refresh as if it didn't know I was logged in... How does that even happen? One of the greatest functions of these things are for "couch surfing" and the experience has been mediocre at best. I've found the experience very frustrating when trying to accomplish a task.

I like the concept and feel of the OS, I just feel like it was given to us as a beta release. I am looking forward to Android specifically for the function of an OS and app collection that will receive regular updates and work when I want it to.

If WebOS was bug free and the app collection was there, I think it would be a far better interface than Honeycomb. But as it stands now, it's frustrating when the guy 5 cubicles down tells me about the great new app he got for his samsung galaxy tab and all I can reply with is, I hope I can get that too some day.

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Interesting article, though I think it probably does more to flame the fanboy war than anything else.

The big question I always want answered is why does it really matter if one copied the other?

They both have their differences, advantages, disadvantages, etc... If a handset / tablet does what you want it to do, that's all that really matters.

Google news often shows me articles like this one in the technology section, I more than often have to laugh at them when it's clear which phone the writer has in his picket.
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Omitting the first sentence, very well put. I thanked you for this useful post.
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
I have one touchpad now and another on the way when HP ships. We are all aware the apps for webOS are seriously lacking but......

The one I have has been overclocked to 1.5 and I added CIFS mounting and a few preware apps for reading and video. My wife was using a Notion Ink Adam with Froyo and had been attempting to steal my Transformer. I gave her the TP and loaded all her books on the Box.net storage and havent heard a work from her since. She loves it. Its a perfect size for reading and browsing, checking email, watching videos from the server and all the little things she used to do on her Adam and before that a bulky laptop. She likes the UI much better than Honeycomb even. She is in love with the IPS screen and handed me the Adam after 1 day and informed me that she would not accept less than IPS in the future so stick this in your......well you know :) (I have a nook as well but she didn't like the size)

It doesn't have ports (usb, SDcard, HDMI) but since she has 50gb of cloud storage and access to my server she hasnt really noticed. The only draw back is the inability to tether to her Droid 1 but shes about to get a SGS2 so that shouldn't be an issue. After a week I was informed that I would have to wait until I got "my" TP to put Android on it because she will not allow me to put it on hers because she likes webOS better.

I thought I would pass along thoughts from a non technical user like my wife. She just wants it to do what she wants. The details are unimportant and the endless tweaking I do drives her nuts.
[TouchPad Development] Joker Fuel:
Swear to god this thread was about "android development on the touchpad" not which OS is superior or better for who.

Back on track. Glad to see cm got the WiFi working for the most part. I don't mind the waiting game for a solid 80 dollar android tablet. If I have to wait another 3 months I can still call it a nice Christmas present, til then, makes a nice movie player for my daughter
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
This thread went off topic long ago :) It should probably be moved to general anyway.

There is a thread about it here and I have #CMTouchpad on IRC to follow the news. They are keeping the topic updated and if you ignore 80% of the absolute garbage being talked about then you can see were they are at :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1254968
[TouchPad Development] Joker Fuel:
Well we do get on topic good news and updates every 20th posts lol. Just need it cleaned up and kept clean
[TouchPad Development] muyoso:
Yea, but at least the mods allow us to discuss what we want and don't go and delete posts for no reason. Over at pre-central they are deleting any post I make that mentions the dreaded Android word, even if I am just responding to a person that brought it up. Its ridiculous.
[TouchPad Development] Adonis K.:
A guy posted 2-3 days ago that he his friend touchpad had 3.0.4 installed and wanted help with dumping it. Not sure what happened though
[TouchPad Development] Hotconductor:
How are you watching videos from your server? I have a NAS hooked up which I use constantly throughout the house (XBMC so forth), BUT the Touchpad can't access SMB shares. Or can it?
[TouchPad Development] ambivalent-one:
It was meant as a comment on vehemence. I've been noticing that a lot of early adopters or owners from the Palm days seem extra defensive. After re-reading it seems like flame bait more than anything... It wasn't the intention.
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
There is another upnp app that actuall y works for dnla when you update to the newest firmware and I followed this for cifs mounting. I hate posting links to outside forums but I don't see anything on XDA with the same info.

http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/290642-how-connect-tp-network-shares.html

There is a beta video player in preware that plays most codecs
[TouchPad Development] SkzBR:
Hello buddies,

We all know that ETAs doesnt exists, but what we need to do to get it faster? Maybe if developers make a list of what testings steps...?

What i'm trying to say, is that we need help developers and tries to make it release FASTER helping, and not just blaming the foruns...

So, i'm waiting for a dev reply with instructions.
[TouchPad Development] PointZero:
The problem with providing ETAs or even a timeline of any sort is that people start to hold developers to these timelines. If you're not an Android developer, you're obviously limited in capacity to giving praise or making criticism. A problematic number of people tend to be impatient, so they start criticizing the developers when they derail from proposed timelines. You can see why developers have decided to not say anything until the project is completed.

The other problem is dumbfucks who feel they're entitled to an Android port, and devs are obligated to put out a completed product.
[TouchPad Development] thebadfrog:
The fastest way its gonna get done is to quit asking the devs when its gonna get done. If you want to follow along then lurk on a dev IRC channel. Don't be suprised if you get kicked when you ask for an ETA or ask if there is anything you can test to make it go faster. Its gonna get done when it gets done. There is no faster.

Whats the first rule of CyanogenMod? :)
[TouchPad Development] Tweak_four17:
If this is your first night, you have to fight? ....I get my rules confused :P
[TouchPad Development] wingzing85:
Dude you aren't suppose to talk about it..:eek:
[TouchPad Development] SkzBR:
Sorry if you misunderstand my reply.

I know that nobody likes to give ETA, and i'm not asking it. I'm asking for a guide to help developers, like researching something, or testing something, just to make it happen faster that now.

Ty.
[TouchPad Development] pulser_g2:
People like you not making posts like this would help for a start :)

We don't work for you guys, get that straight.
[TouchPad Development] pulser_g2:
The best way to help is to keep out the way right now... There's nothing public to test. There's not really a need for research, as we can find anything in 10 seconds via google-fu
[TouchPad Development] Hotconductor:
Thank you. I will jump through those hoops later today!
[TouchPad Development] wondercoolguy:
Ive got a touchpad and cannot not wait for the Devs to complete their work. I apperciate everything you guys do because I'm not smart enough to do it for myself :-)
[TouchPad Development] knightnz:
Palm OS devices have never been available in the southern hemisphere (thank Sprint and their antique network for that one), so no, I don't own a Pre, nor have I ever even seen a WebOS device in person, I've got a SGS2 and the original Galaxy Tab (which the g/f uses mostly).

I don't buy a device in the hope that it'll do something in the future if it's of little to no use to me in the state I buy it in. If I _know_ it can be altered _now_ to be of more use, then that's a different story.