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[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
He really did stick it to the man, one time. The man will stick it to him for another 10 years.
[EVO 4G General] bweisholtz:
i tried doing this. did all the same stuff you guys did.

guy #1 kept insisting on the $1.99 max fee in the contract, which i rightly told him was made up and did not exist in the customer contracts. he finally put me through to a supervisor.

while on hold, they hung up on me.

i called back. started talking to a new dude who told me that I can cancel, but have to wait until 9th when the change goes into effect.

while on the phone with him, the guy who hung up on me called me back. i finally talked with his manager.

argued a bit. then the manager told me that she would do it, but couldn't until the change was reflected in my bill. i told her it wouldn't reflect on my bill until October 7th. she said i was correct and that at the point, i had 30 days from October 7th to cancel.

I told her that i'm pretty sure she's wrong on that, as the contract said that we have 30 days from the date that it takes effect (September 9th) to cancel. we went back and forth. i told her i'm pretty sure that she's lying to me and that taking her advise will screw me in the end. she, nicely and calmly, kept telling me that her understanding of how it works is correct.

i finally hung up after about an hour of hassling them.

anybody have any advise on my situation? anybody know which of the 2 stories they told me are true? anybody know if they're both wrong and i should be able to cancel now?

in any case, i'll call back next week to get some more people telling me completely different things...
[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
lol hate to say it but thats true..
[EVO 4G General] allpapajohn:
On one line. Not all lines like it used to be there really is no need to worry about the gold premier plan. So lets see I could stay with my original plan wait another month pay $199 for a Photon and pay activation. Or cancel my account. Pay no ETF and get phones for $5-600 off MSRP each. Get a free Shift. And walk away with an awesome buy back program from Best Buy. You tell me was it really worth saving 25% on accessories and getting a magazine once a quarter? Don't think I walked into this blind. I have researched choices and weighed the benefits and drawbacks of this move.

Or as per sprints own website. If I want to Go to gold.

Q:Can I continue to receive the annual upgrade if I am S|P Silver?

A:Only by changing your individual plan to $89.99 or above, or your shared plan to $169.99 or above and maintaining that average for three months, which would qualify you for S|P Gold and one annual upgrade per qualifying plan on your account.

So I saved at a minimum $99/Photon line and we''ll say $50 on the Shift and $108 for no activation on three new lines. I can up my plan by $40/month for three months for a grand total of $120 dollars and get to my Gold SP plan and still be ahead hundreds of dollars out of pocket. Gonna still think I was an idiot or an evil genius?
[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
she is wrong..your right...call retentions department and keep trying man..I kept calling until i got a women..thier usually more calm and dont compete( guys only think they know everything..macho factor comes into everything) and i can say it took ten minutes with the lady and that was it..i was out of contract.
[EVO 4G General] sharkboy0901:
Does this count for a line cuz I have a nextel dumb phone that I need to cancel but I don't want to pay the etf. I also have and evo on the account as well maybe I can cancel that and switch phones with the other line?

Any advice I really need to get rid of a line cuz there is not one using it
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Plans don't matter with 10 year tenure. At 10 years you automatically get yearly upgrades, but I guess if somehow your logic works for you, go for it.

And it's never been yearly for every line.
[EVO 4G General] iwin2000:
I tried doing this twice today, both times they would let me cancel without ETF but when I asked if I could be switched to month to month while I consider my options they said that would not be possible, they would only be able to cancel my service entirely. One lady I called went and talked to her supervisor about it but still came back and said no.

Do I just have to hit the right person and get lucky? Or is there something special I should say? I have been asking to be switched to month-to-month so I could have some time to "weigh my options with other carriers".
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You can't just have an ETF waived and moved month to month, any reps doing that are wrong. It's cancel or not. Not to mention you have to wait until the changes actually take effect...
[EVO 4G General] github:
The thing that bothers me, is that waiting for the changes to take effect typically mean you accept those changes. It's like that for many contracts. Every other carrier gives you notice and you have either 30 or 60 days to cancel before the contract change takes effect. If you don't cancel then that means you accept the changes and the new contract is binding.

Reading the Sprint terms, however, it seems that you do infact have to wait until AFTER the changes take effect. Which is kind of weird, but that is what it says. Some people are getting the OK to beak contract w/o ETF before the changes according to the posts on Slickdeals. So it's all a YMMV thing. You can keep calling and bothering the people, or you can wait. If you really want to leave Sprint that bad, then it won't hurt to call now. If they say you have to wait... well then don't complain.

Also, DirtyShroomz is correct. Sprint will move you month-to-month just long enough for you to port out (slickdeals reports its until your next billing cycle). If you are told that you are on month-to-month I'd call back and check to make sure you are going to lose your account on your next billing cycle.
[EVO 4G General] d11dog11:
Called today and had retentions notate the account that my etf is waived until october 9th while I shop for a new carrier. Just in case. Was easy, just stock to the fact that you do not agree to the new terms and do not accept any credits they offer.

This was for an evo 4g

Sent from my Att Atrix 4g unlocked.
[EVO 4G General] jayharper08:
I think it's time to.......

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[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
lmfao wow never seen that one before! Thats awesome :D

Forgot to mention that I agree...this thread is dead.
[EVO 4G General] potna:
uhm, when i signed up with sprint a year ago they told me i could do an early upgrade. well now that a year has came on gone what happened to this one year upgrade deal? point is, they stuck it to us, they provided us a list of reasons to give them money and the money always seems to find a way to creep up and their obligation has shrank.

remember all that 4 g crap they talked about? first 4g phone etc etc, well i have travled the US this last year and i barely have decent 3g let alone ANY 4g, again this is another one of those things on the list they provided when trying to get our contracts, and i bet most sprint customers have not ever been on a 4g tower.

they tricked us, so if i get a chance to even the score i will do just that.
[EVO 4G General] nyboy07:
Has anyone successfully negotied an early upgrade? I want to upgrade my EVO to the EVO 3D.
[EVO 4G General] augy:
Lmfao, how do you have time to answer the phones in the retention department with your busy boardroom schedule planning the 2013 business plan for Sprint? I didn't realize I was arguing with Dan's right hand man. You know as well as I do that Sprint could change this at anytime just like they did when they switched most of us here from gold to silver. With pending mergers in place your guesses or inside information is tentative at best. Just ask my buddy at HP that bought a full price touchpad last week based on Steven Dewitt's commitment to the platform.

I'm at 8 years now too so if I call you directly will you place the words "guaranteed yearly upgrade" on my primary line?
[EVO 4G General] enzojrc:
....I just hopped on to Sprint from Verizon in July thinking that $30 for the EVO 4G was awesome...and now that I realize that the network service where I live is piss poor....I am going to do the early cancel...my question is...can I keep the phone?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Unless you're doing the 30 day return, yes you can.

You can't use it on Verizon though...
[EVO 4G General] enzojrc:
Thanks!! yeah I know WiMax radio < 4GLTE lol
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
If you're a ten year customer? Definitely. Did you really think qualifications were going to stay the same when the qualifications were the bear minimum plan acceptable for smart phones? Good luck running a business if you plan on giving every single subscriber with a smart phone yearly upgrades.

A lot of people are mad qualifications were changed. Fact is, the people that don't hop from provider to provider have had it for years, only the new Evo owners are upset, but you shouldn't be, you willingly signed a contract that states it could be changed at anytime.
[EVO 4G General] rquinn19:
Sprint willingly gave me a contract with an out if they raised the "administrative fee" .50 :D
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Looks like the ETF won't be waived for that. Seems there was a $1.99 cap added a while back which was sent out during the last admin change and the $1.50 is obviously within that cap.
[EVO 4G General] austin420:
Seems like plenty of people have already gotten this done because of the fee hike. As a sprint employee, can you show us proof of this cap in our cantracts?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Right now it's not on the website just on old bills from what I've been sent. Still waiting to see how Sprint handles the situation.
[EVO 4G General] whitesmoke:
wish i saw this before I had to pay to cancel my gf line so she could get an iphone...ugh
[EVO 4G General] austin420:
I just went through all my bill inserts back to since the admin fee was 25 cents per line and the bills were only about 5x7(2007). I didn't see it in any of the notices. I don see when it went to 40 cents in 08 and up to 99 cents in jan 2010, and there is no cap mentioned. We shall certainly see though.
[EVO 4G General] whatsitsnamenow:
Retention has offer to let me go ETF free but I actually like my Sprint service. Was wondering if they will let me have some sort of credits if I decide to sign a new 2 year contract.

Oh yeah the offer was to leave Sprint within 2 billing cycle. There was no offer to go month to month though.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Just stay with Sprint. Honestly, where the hell are you going to go? Dan loves you all.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dan love you long time.

^_^
[EVO 4G General] MedicStuder:
Thanks op.

Just spent 20 minutes on phone with sprint. Spoke with rep and customer account services. I am now no longer under contract. Hello month to month freedom. Just fyi I did not do this to leave sprint. I love sprint. I did it just for the freedom and ability to upgrade when I want to.
[EVO 4G General] marksedge:
I second that ...supper bummed out on that one
[EVO 4G General] mustangboy88:
The only conflict that I have with that philosophy is the things that I would use that faster data for would be crushed by the data caps. Things like google music, Netflix, HBO go. Although it would great, the grass isn't exactly greener. And this is someone that has an Airave and probably never going to see Wimax anytime soon.

Typed on my CyanoSavaged SuperEvo
[EVO 4G General] njfoses:
You are aware that your upgrade date has nothing to do with your contract and everything to do with the last time you received subsidized equipment right? Even though you are out of contract your upgrade date does not change.
[EVO 4G General] alomar123:
Just put in in another name, like a wife.
[EVO 4G General] bluephi1914:
I would like a little clarification.... why is sprint ending contracts at your request ???

what are TOS and ETF's ???

thanks and sorry for the noob question
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Terms of service early termination fees
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Got a phone call from Dan Hesse's office today. They confirmed that the $1.99 admin fee cap is something agreed to by customers at some point and that etfs should not be waived. I didn't get into details or ask questions because I told them that I was tired of researching the issue and was happy with Sprint and not planning to leave.
[EVO 4G General] sshark:
Somehow someone will try to crap good-going and call someone higher-up.

First rule of these things ... DO NOT CALL DOOO NOOOT CALL.
[EVO 4G General] john21511:
Called today talked to them said I disagree with the admin fees going up and the arbitration clause changing. Cancelled one transform 130 no etf and 2 evo's I've only had 2 two months that I got for free from radio shack. Thank you Sprint. Now I'm off to tmobile. 50 a month unlimited everything

Sent from my rooted Kinged Shooter EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] wmdunn:
"Unlimited everything" includes throttling data back to 1x, once your usage reaches 2 gigabytes ... that wouldn't work for me!
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Highly doubt that as the changes haven't taken effect yet.
[EVO 4G General] john21511:
That's why I'm paying the ten extra bucks for 5 gigs

Sent from my rooted Kinged Shooter EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] john21511:
If you wait till after that means that you are ok with the contract change. Read it. There is well over a hundred post on here and the epic edition where people have done the same thing I have done.

Sent from my rooted Kinged Shooter EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You have 30 days from when the changes take effect. Some people need some common sense classes.
[EVO 4G General] lettcco:
sorry if this is covered before...

Where can I port my evo 4g to? From the rom section looks like I can flash my EVO 4G to metroPCS or Boost. Any place else? What about Virgin mobile? Thanks
[EVO 4G General] john21511:
I think you can go to cricket also if that is in your area.
[EVO 4G General] markandmyia:
Contract cancelled!

Long story short....I have been fighting with them for over 2 months with my current contract (EVO). They basically told me... Sorry, we cant help you! Now.... I called and quoted their own TOS, and they cancelled 3 lines...No ETF. I am month to month till I figure out what I want to do! I am still in shock. Thanks for posting this. I really appreciate it.
[EVO 4G General] alomar123:
Have called 3 times and each time they say they I cant cancel till after the 9th, which is when it takes effect.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Why would it be any other way? Suppose Sprint's changes their mind now they've removed contracts from people over something that didn't take effect.
[EVO 4G General] Cares:
How certain are you of this? Couldn't you just "re-sign" a contract to get upgrades again?
[EVO 4G General] alomar123:
Its just disappointing since others are getting different results, but Im not done trying.
[EVO 4G General] Koont:
Looking at some the post I think this still holds true.
[EVO 4G General] TheANDROID:
Yes you can, I cancelled and still have a 150.00 off towards a upgrade, I didn't use it because $150 off a $600 device is still outrageous, I just wanted out of the contract..waiting to see if Sprint gets the iPhone 5, If so I'll add a new line to get full discount.. then cancel one of my lines.
[EVO 4G General] TheANDROID:
This

100% Correct.
[EVO 4G General] LexLuger82:
Smart, stick it to the man
[EVO 4G General] jed394:
I'm not sure breaking your contract prior to the iphone coming is such a good idea. My guess is that sprint is going to get more expensive or end up putting in bandwidth restrictions like Att and Verizon, or something along those lines. If you don't have a contract your not going to get grandfathered in if you do upgrade.

If sprint DOES manage to keep the same plane prices they have now ( They are already the cheapest of the main carriers) when the iphone comes, then they are going to get super super popular. Either way just my thoughts on the matter. I'd rather have a longer upgrade time but keep my unlimited data just in case.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Yeah, evil Sprint needs to be taught a lesson!
[EVO 4G General] jake200:
The economy is slowing, but companies are still raising prices on everything. Just think .50 x 50 million customers, that is a lot of extra coin. Hopefully, they use it to get 4G up and running in Phoenix.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Companies are raising prices for many reasons:

-Data usage is up, therefore the networks require more and the carriers have to keep up.

-There's been a strong push to expand your network [especially to "4g"] which causes price increases as well.

-Abuse from users attributes to this as well. From "omg I want a brand new different phone free because I can't root my OEM device" to "omg I want out of my contract because the price increased 50 cents a month" to "I'm just gonna use 50 GB a month to be an asshole".....all of those things hurt companies...especially the smaller ones like Sprint.

-Inflation. Gasoline prices [oil as well] staying as inflated as they have been cause a major strain on the market.

People need to understand. Practically everything you use and own uses oil in some manner. Whether it be during construction or during use.

[Also, if you think that prices are going to decrease, or even stay the same, if the At&t/T-mobile merger happens...well... good luck with that one;)]
[EVO 4G General] BIGWORM:
I want to do this today, but I need to know exactly what I need to say to make it no-fuss on Sprint's end, or as little fuss as possible.
[EVO 4G General] mustangboy88:
- agree

- Sprint doesn't expand or maintain the 4G Network. That would be Clearwire. If the latest purchase goes through then Sprint will almost own all of Clearwire. Then the 4G network of Wimax will be upon Sprints responsibility. However, Lightsquared is paying Sprint to operate their 4G technology on Sprints existing spectrum, so again, Sprint isn't using nickel and dimes fees to expand an already poor 4G rollout.

- Abuse is a small percentage of Sprint users. The rooting and android fanatics already is a small percentage of the Sprint community, let alone people who abuse data and contract cycles.

- Highly doubt gas price alone is a driving factor for inflation.

- agree

Typed on my CyanoSavaged SuperEvo.
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
matty, you always seem to know EVERYTHING, and have all the answers to every question. We need like 100 more of you in the evo section :D

I was like 90% sure I wanted to switch to T-mobile, until I actually went to switch. Anyway, I did this today, got my contract thrown out and going month to month. Seemed like a great idea at the time. I then called them back just to confirm that my account was zeroed out and I was no longer under contract. I was immediately transferred to a manager that proceeded to explain to me the downside of what I had done. I am no longer eligible for discounted upgrades, even when my upgrade date comes. That in itself sucks for me. And, as someone mentioned a few posts back, IF they ever go to tiered data plans or capped plans, I wont be grandfathered in. It was explained to me in different words, but meant exactly this. Im currently trying to figure out how to get things back the way they were :/

Moral of the story, if you are 100% sure you want to change carriers, this will work and its the easiest way to get out of the ETF. BUT, if you just want out of your contract, and plan on staying with Sprint, just sit tight. I didnt think it through, the grass is always greener and Ive been seeing T-mobile commercials advertising 49.99 unlimited plans, which is complete BS, by the way...
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
-Keep in mind I was speaking industry wide.

But Sprint is also expanding and redoing their network [The Vision project]

-Honestly, I think more people "abuse" than you think. Just in different ways. Not necessarily data abuse.

I'm sorry about your experience.

I just wanted to bold the important sections for others to see so they can understand what they are risking.
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
Yea, I tend to be a little impulsive. Like I said, I would not mess with this unless you are 110% sure you are leaving Sprint.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upuli114:
dear forum...........

im going to buy a new smartphone.....

at this moment i have two ideas.....

1. galaxy sII

2. lg optimus dual[lg 2X]

GALAXY SII with

Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset

LG OPTIMUS DUAL

Dual-core 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, ULP GeForce GPU, Tegra 2 AP20H chipset

what is the best.........galaxy or lg?

which gpu is the best geforce or Mali-400MP?

i dnt believe user ideas....can anyone tell me real deal?

is it true that these 2 phones have gpu apart of cpu? or is it intergrated to cpu? like laptop shared gpu?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
The O2X is one of the most wretched phones ever to exist. It has LCD screen bleed, reboots randomly, overheats, and has Wi-Fi and Bluetooth issues. It's the subject of a class action lawsuit in the U.S. and a petition for recall launched by owners in the EU. Read the O2X and G2X forums.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
GSII is the best out there atm. You can't compare LG O2X with that, even Sensation won't come.

Go for GSII eyes closed.

Regards.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upuli114:
thanks

ok im going for GSII......

and my last question is is it true galaxy s2 have a gpu apart of cpu?

something like......

1.2GHZ dual core cortex A9 processor with

MALI MP400 GPU?

or its combined into cpu like intel GMA or HD graphics?

or seperate processor and gpu?:confused:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
Of course it has a GPU. And thats damn powerful.

Sent from GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upuli114:
yea mali mp 400 ryt? is it powerfull like nvidia gpu in optimus 2x?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
^ More than that.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] upuli114:
hey mate im from sri lanka. and ur a indian ryt? is that galaxy has a bad batery life with heavy usage of video playback? im going to get it tomorrow!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] appest:
GS II is the best!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grants04:
I'm embarrassed to ask this question as I feel like I really should know this... but I can't find the answer so here goes. Just got insurance replacement for EVO (usb port issues). Was running Synergy nightlies prior. New phone is of course 2.33 with 4.24 build. Thrilled that Revolutionary is now available as I could not stand going back to an unrooted phone.

Revolutionary is asking me if I have HBOOT 2.15 or 2.16. I don't know! I can't get the phone to go into the boot screen with power/volume down (don't you have to have root for this?). Only info I have is Baseband 2.15.00.05.02 and PRI is 2.15_003. This makes me think that HBOOT must be 2.15, but all threads that I can find re: rooting 4.24 with Revolutionary talk only about HBOOT 2.16.

Again, sorry if I am being totally stupid, but I can't find my answer and don't want to screw this up right out of the gate.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grants04:
Nevermind. It turns out that it must not matter. You get the same beta key regardless of what you choose for HBOOT so I'm going on to root. Still curious though, if you can't get to your boot screen, how can you find out your boot version? Or, why wouldn't the boot screen come up for me? Oh well. On to root and all the goodness that it allows!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plainjane:
You have fastboot enabled (by default). You could've unchecked fastboot in settings, or after powering down the phone pulled the battery, put it back in, and then volume down + power.

For the record, your hboot version was 2.16. I think that running revolutionary changes the hboot to 6.16, but I may be wrong.