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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Izzy Stinson:
Hey guys I want to tell ya something. I have recorded 13 videos of me and my friends playing around our amusement park and there is no single electostatic noise or whatever on my video. And my mini pro havent even been updated to a new ver.

Just want to tell ya people, that my phone is electrostatic noise free.

I will edit my video sooner and will post it on youtube probably then you guys will see

Cheers :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] F157:
Can you please post the week your phone has been manufactured? It should be behind the battery, in a from like 11W33. Thanks.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] MacThe:
I had the electrostatic crackeling noise on my SK17i in my videos on 2.3.3 but it i don't have it anymore since i upgraded to 2.3.4

and the upgrade also fixed issues I hade with the sensors being wrong when using google sky map.

the crackeling does stil exist if I listen to the back of the phone when the screen is on but not when the screen is off or in the videos anymore.

SK17i (sweden)

11W29

SI:1249-4832

Type: AAD-3880104-BV

Firmware: 4.0.2.A.0.42

OS: 2.3.4
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Luuigi:
Hello,

I updated the phone and still have the same eletrostatic noise in the p2 jack.

When i updated the phone the videos had decreased the noise considerably,

but still there. :(

11W34

2.3.4

SK17a
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] :
I use pretty much default settings, 720p with autofocus.

Sony promised that mini pro would be fine with the first update, 2.3.4, so this really seems like winning some extra time.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] F157:
Could you please post a screenshot of that mail? This would mean 2.3.4. was never supposed to be the fix?!

Thanks.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Linkinsoldier:
I've got my new xperia pro. Same problem... I'm pretty tired of trying again and again right know... I'm probably sending back my phone and hope there is going to be a hardware revision... I love the phone though...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] :
Can you have another xperia pro from the store where you bought it? I first had 2 xperia mini pros and after the second one I cancelled the whole deal and got my money back. After that I've just waited how this thing gets resolved, but after absolutely no progress I decided to go after xperia pro. So I know just how you feel, maybe you just had really bad luck with this new xperia pro, I would recommend you to get another one and give it one last shot. :)

PS: Now using almost a week my xperia pro and still working perfectly fine, absolutely no noise what so ever. :) And I've really used my phone hard!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] bumsu:
The mk16i goes over the counter for close to 300€ Germany.

For that kind of money you can get a lot of phones can you.

From the top of my head I think of the HTC desire S, some Galaxys, some Windows phones like HTC Pro...

I'm looking for a decent phone for at most 200€ so the mini pro was something I considered, just because a hardware keyboard and 2 cams to be able to use skype seemed neat.

But I'm not gonna be someone who plays the lottery when it comes to buying a phone.

I don't care for that sweat.

Gimme a phone that works, okay?

Unfortunately I missed (that is my previous phone broke too late :)) sell outs of subsidized Win 7 phones, who now all get updated to mango.

If you ask me that is pretty nice, I dunno bout the future, but I would assume since MS is so restrictive about the manufacturers' hardware, and they all (?) have at least 1Ghz CPU, you will be able to get Win updates for quiet a while.

Can't say that about a lot of the android phones, stuck at Froyo or Gingerbread.

Unless you use custom roms etc., and are lucky enough that the phone's hw can actually take it.

-I'm too old for this s...-

Anyway, just my 2 cents: Rather then wasting time on a bugged phone that comes in at 300€, have a look around and see all the phones out there in that price range and even significantly below.

For me, I will wait some more, hopefully there'll be a revision of the mini pro- cause I am pretty sure it's a hw issue and any sw fix will be symptomatic at best.

So either I'm waiting for that or for the desire s to drop in price, or some other nice phone.

Unfortunately the perfect phone isn't out there, and if it were I wouldn't wanna afford it.

I don't like the idea of having an easily breakable something in my pocket worth more than 300€.

Damn, why did my SE W810i have to break...it worked like a charm until I managed to crack the display...had bought it used for like 30€ 2,5 years ago.

I might even back off smartphones again, and stay oldschool.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gour:
It looks like someone has to write HOWTO about "Buying SE Phone". :D

With such QA, I bet they cannot stay long in the business considering that competition is fierce. :(

---------- Post added at 08:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:33 AM ----------

In the same boat here...looking for a decent phone with a hardware keyboard that does not cost a fortune. :D

/me nods.

That's fair.

I am looking at Droid in the hope there will be client for my Linux-based taskmanager (taskwarrior) so that I can sync my tasks with the desktop, along with a addresbook etc-

Can you suggest some other model?

That's very true...I also do not want to spend much on the s**t which anyway lasts up to 2yrs maximum (my old HP 15C calc from '84 still rocks), so it's a pity to see what pile of garbage is sold today with such a short lifetime. :mad:

This is not a bad idea...I haven't even jump to smartphones yet and here I'm the witness how hard it is to do so. :eek:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Linkinsoldier:
@likvit: i can get as many phones as i want, but this is hardly useful as long as they turn out NOT flaweless... One last idea: do you have mk16a?

@topic: I'm thinking about keeping the phone though... Its way better then with my old mini pro (I cant really hear it during a call) and I dont use video at all...

As for the HOWTO on buying SE phones right now: SEphones without hardware keyboard seem to be unaffected by this issue...

And as for the desire s: I dont like the update policy of HTC, ... I mean the desire s or hd a very well capable of getting the update but its a marketing strategy NOT to give it to them... Like the iphone4 would be very well capable of hosting SIRI but it was a marketing desition to only bring it on the 4S...

Just my to cents:

For know I'm sticking with the Xperia pro and trying to get more information out of SE... If its getting worse and I can hear the noise during calls I'm going to return the phone and switch back to my old customized x10 mini ;-)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] brymarti:
Device model: sk17i (philippines)

SI 1249-0748

Prod. week: 11W37

upgraded to 2.3.4

no cricket noise :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Johan-SonyXperiaSupport:
Hi all! I'm hoping on getting more information about this problem pretty soon, and hopefully not just info about video recording noises but more info about the noise problem in general.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gour:
Can you upload your recording somewhere?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Linkinsoldier:
Thats good to hear. I was about to give back my new Xperia PRO (not mini pro! ... although I had the same issues there...). Now I have a little hope. I'm waiting with the return until there are more Information from SE!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gour:
It would be nice to get more information not just about the problem, but about solution as well.

I'm sure we are not the only one seriously considering to buy another brand of smart phone seeing how SE is handling this issue. :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Johan-SonyXperiaSupport:
Hey gour,

I know that the team is looking for a solution as well. And I understand everybody's eager to get this problem sorted out.

Remember to fix the problem, you need to understand it.

But as I posted I'll get back to you all ASAP. Just thought you should know that this is something that's prioritized.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gour:
Sure, but the problem was reported in August and the fix was promised to arrive with the next software update, which is not the case.

Otoh, I know it's not easy to handle it if it's hardware problem, but being silent is not the best policy as well.

That's good to know...I understand you're trying your best. ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] :
I have mk16i. Here's another testvideo from another user:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzBfcE0hi1w
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Johan-SonyXperiaSupport:
So, I’m back with some more info as promised.

This is what I know.

1. About

Video recording

noises.

-New HW solution has been implemented for all units produced starting end of September

-For the units in the field experiencing the symptom a SW fix has been made available with the maintenance release 4.0.2.A.X.X rolled out starting mid of October 2011.

So if you have installed the latest software and still having problems with noise during video recording you need to have the phone fixed at a repair center. For more info about repair centers contact your local support team.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/common/contact/phonelist

2. About noises during

calls

.

If you have installed the latest software (4.0.2.A.X.X) and still having noises during calls the phone needs to be examined at a repair center. For more info about repair centers see link above.

Since these noises during calls can be caused be different things the phone needs to be examined by a repair tech.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gour:
Thanks a lot for your follow up... :)

What is the exact week of production, iow. 11Wxx to be sure when buying new phone?

Does HW fix implemented in newly manufactured phones helps with 'noises during calls' as well?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Linkinsoldier:
First of all: Thank you for the answer. Finally (after almost 4 month) we get the attention this problem should have been give A LONG TIME AGO!

I guess I should give the mini pro a new try then ;)

As the man posted right before myself: 11Wxx would be good to know!

I have 2 xperia pro 11KW41 having EXACTLY the same problems as mini pro!

Do your rules imply on the xperia pro too? Because Week41 is later then end of September :(

edit: and yes, I have the newest firmware (4.0.2.A.0.42) installed and the second phone ha the problem RIGHT out of the box!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sur1k:
Dear Johan,

we're glad to see you here. So we know that someone in SE is working on this problem (i hope not only one).

I just want to mention:

There's no noise

on video

& noise

during calls

. It is the same sound. In other words, the 'cicada' noise is produced by the phone. Video & audio recordings captures it. And when I put the phone to my ear during calls I hear that particular sound.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] foresto:
Hardware Fix: Which production weeks? Which models?

Welcome, Johan, and thank you for the update!

Can you please tell us exactly which production weeks (indicated on the units as 11W##) will have the hardware fix?

Will the hardware fix for the SK17a (the American model) show up in the same production week as the SK17i (the international model)?

If I knew which units would have the hardware fix, I would put the SK17a on my company's approved purchase list.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jiminee:
Wlecome Johan,

It is great to see some SE presence here, whether its official or not?

I would like to re-iterate what I posted on SE-Talk (I think it got swamped by posts on cicadas or soomething), and that is: the noise on the video recording/noise in-call is the SYMPTOM of the issue not the problem.

The problem is that the phone hardware design is malfunctioning.

The sound I can STILL hear on my sk17I 2.3.4 when I put the reverse to my ear is another SYMPTOM of the problem. A software fix is never going to resolve a hardware issue.

All this talk of software fixes are just plasters for a bleeding phone. If you could divulge info of the HW update I would be really interested to hear how SE ACTUALLY fixed the problem.

Cheers for any info, I'm at a loss with this, but your presence has somewhat tweaked my attention :)

Sent from my SK17i
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] :
I'ts funny how many times this has to be said to SE, a thing that a customer notices instanly.... :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] r33p:
*cough* crybaby *cough*
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Izzy Stinson:
Hey guys I apologize of what I said before I said there is no electrostatic noise on my video but actually there is. I cant hear it with the speaker, but I can hear it with a headset on
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jd.21:
@ all

plz, see here in SE facebook page abt the noise issue Q&A,

facebook.com/sonyericsson?sk=app_202980683107053&app_data=ece3e665-1878-4b0d-b1a6-c6fe34ddc33a:0

raise ur questions and doubts there also.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jd.21:
Does anyone thought about the life span of the handset? b'coz of unusual activity inside the fone, what's the guarantee that it will not create any big issue tommorrow? anybody able to answer this question?.

today all think, this noise is not a big issue in daily life other than video recording, if it will make any major defects to the harware inside in the future what's the solution?.

suppose if the fone dies after the warranty period what we all do? anybody thought abt this?

is SE ready to replace the hardware without any extra cost?

@SE-ANSWERS/MODERATORS please, answer my questions. am asking on behalf of everybody(those who are all not satisfied with your solutions taken for this noise issue till now).

@ Johan u mentioned in the earlier post that the hardware was modified in the new release batch, please explain here abt the hardware changes made in the handset(without knowing u can't write here about the changes made in the hardware of the XPERIA MINI PRO SK17).

and don't write that we are here only to answer the questions that was adviced. who told u about the hardware changes, better ask them for explanation or ask them to explain here(now u are able to understand i think).

(note : this reply msg is a ditto from the official forum)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Linkinsoldier:
Since there is no answer from SE, i guess I should return my phone...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] tarari86:
I'm from Italy and I've the issue.

Sk17i

Week of production: 11W32

SI 1249-4847

There is no solution?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jd.21:
SE is advicing all the xmp owners to got to service centre for a fix of the static noise, if u feel still the problem is there or not satisfied with the fix then u can replace the handset, this was update by a markus in facebook. here the reply by markus on FB,

Hi All,

To clear up somethings in the most recent posts:

1) We are certainly not trying to hide or cover up this situation that people are experiencing. Our aim is to be as transparent as possible when it comes to these discussions.

2) If you have updated your software and you feel the audio issue still exists, we have already stated we encourage you to hand your device into a service center. If the phone needs to be replaced, it will.

I will assume all in this thread have updated to the latest software available in their region, so now I will need feedback on what happened after a technician looked at your phone. If you do this, and reply, please include your work order number (or any other reference numbers) so I can follow up on my end as well.

-Markus

FB link

facebook.com/sonyericsson?sk=app_202980683107053&app_data=ece3e665-1878-4b0d-b1a6-c6fe34ddc33a:0
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Johan-SonyXperiaSupport:
For those of you who have not seen Markus post on Facebook about this.

"Hi All,

To clear up somethings in the most recent posts:

1) We are certainly not trying to hide or cover up this situation that people are experiencing. Our aim is to be as transparent as possible when it comes to these discussions.

2) If you have updated your software and you feel the audio issue still exists, we have already stated we encourage you to hand your device into a service center. If the phone needs to be replaced, it will.

I will assume all in this thread have updated to the latest software available in their region, so now I will need feedback on what happened after a technician looked at your phone. If you do this, and reply, please include your work order number (or any other reference numbers) so I can follow up on my end as well.

-Markus"
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] F157:
Thanks Johan.

Is there any information in what timeframes the updates are available in which places? I'm from Germany and didn't get the update offered yet. My phone is still on 2.3.3
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jd.21:
thanq johan for being here again,

and u didn't answer my question abt the hardware changes made by SE in the new release batch. could u plz, explain atleast here.

even 2011 week 41 that is middle of october month produced handsets also have this noise issue, see the below link

talk.sonyericsson.com/thread/23343?tstart=30 (copy and paste in ur browser address bar)

how can i trust ur words that SE implemented changes in the hardware that was produced from the end of september.

source

xperiablog.net/2011/11/23/se-changes-internal-xperia-mini-pro-hardware-due-to-electrostatic-noise-issue/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dryhte:
Same situation here, I'm reading about updates left and right, but I'm still on .355 :-(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] djarnop:
Latest update, different kernel, but still does the CLICK CLICK for me....

:/ Not that much problem because I actually never record vid but still if I would want to I am thanked..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gour:
I definitely gave up idea to buy Xperia Pro - it's simply too expensive for me, that's why I'm still looking for Xperia Mini Pro solution and wonder if there are reports that some of the early batch models were repaired by the SE service?

I've checked in some shops here, and all I see is 11W31. :-(

Sincerely,

Gour
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dzsemx:
Possible Reasons(didn't dissamble it):

1: Step down DC-DC converter coil noise on load change

2: camera module focus coil drive circuit design flaw
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jakub2010:
Can you explain that, please? thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dzsemx:
High frequency Dc-Dc converters:

http://freecircuitdiagram.com/2010/03/24/adjustable-1-5a-step-down-1-5-mhz-switching-regulator/

my older laptop had a quite strong noise from the power supply circuits (3v3,5v...)

the coils can produce sound if they are not moulded

camera modules in details:

http://www.astri.org/main/?contentnamespace=technologies:mpt:new_developments:wlcsca

If the driver amplifier unit is not perfectly immune in standby mode to power supply voltage changes, the camera module's coil can produce some noise, which is acting like the coil of the speaker

not sure, but maybe the camera module produces this noise.

If the noise would be electrostatic, it would kill the device quite fast (it's ESD sensitive)

by the way, the noise i hear when calling, but i think it's not a dealbreaker, can live with it, some of my older phones made noises like this during call
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jd.21:
@dzsemx,

wow nice details.

don't know it's related to camera module but the noise is coming from the upper back part of the phone almost in and around the camera lens.

noise gets worse when calling and the same noise appears in the earpiece. noise is almost all the time if screen is on and while using any apps.

the noise will disappear only when u connect the charger/usb for charging and if u try to call at this time the noise again appears(both back and earpiece).

according to hardware experts the unusual activity of the electrostatic noise will definitely kill the phone at any point of time, there is no guarantee. but, today no one is aware of this and ready to accept.

thanks for ur info.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dzsemx:
As engineer working in electronic industry and developement, i don't think this noise it's something dangerous or unusual.

Just a small design flaw, i saw worse things.

And this thread title made me smile :)

it's not elecrostatic noise

And i will not argue with anybody, it's just my opinion.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Linkinsoldier:
Am I missing something, or aren't there any complaints with devices produced in 11W39 or later (which would be exactly the "hardware revision" in 11W39 asfor mentioned by SE).

This looks good!

I guess I'll give it a try and buy one next week.

Thats good to hear, thank you for your explanation! It sounds very reasonable and the first good answer to this problem we've got in month...

I just have one question: Do you mean that the camera module is "in standby mode", when its not used at all?

I still dont get, why it affected my microphone, but this might be an unrelated issue...

edit:

As for my xperia pro: the noice is still there, but its not getting worse... I can use the device, and probably most of the people wouldnt recognise it... its much less annoying then on my old mini pro... But I'm afraid it might lead to some hardware defect in the feature :/ So I guess I'm about to give it back for good...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] pengipete:
Just a thought - not a claim to have any special insight but...

I can't help wondering if the massively over-the-top image processing - images softer than a slugs tackle - are the result of SE having to remove noise from the camera's sensor resulting from this same electronic interference. It just strikes me as "coincidental" that the same phones that have such appalingly sludgy photos and videos also have a problem with static noise in the audio circuits.

Incidentally - for those having the problem - try an experiment and see if it makes a difference...

Prop the camera up so you aren't touching it and only activate the camera by the screen-touch option. I have a nagging suspicion that the metallic trim - including the camera button - may be at least partially involved - I noticed a difference with my phone and would be interested in knowing if it works for others. If it does, it would give you something to take back to SE - and a "work-around" for people in the meantime (I have a fitted, leather case so I no longer touch the phone directly -that removed the tick-tick noise)