yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Photon 4G] TexasRebel:
how can i test to see if im actually rooted?
[Motorola Photon 4G] sub2k1:
Just flashed pudding_stock_unlock.sbf using RSDLite v5.3.1.

Status says:

Failed flashing process. Failed flashing process. Phone[0000]: The "Secure_Motorola_Flash" Interface could not be found. The super-file is secure and for re-flash; the phone needs a super-file that is not secure and not for re-flash. (0x7066); phone connec

It stayed at the moto screen. I just pulled the battery and waited 4 minutes or so. I then put it back in and, while a bit slower, it did boot back up to my original setup (I was expecting all my apps to be wiped at this point but I'm still seeing them.)

I'm rebooted the device and attempted fastboot (for those who aren't sure how that is done I powered off the phone. I then held the power button and volume down buttons until it said fastboot. I then pressed the volume up button to select it.) From there I entered command prompt on my PC and ran the moto-fastboot commands. The phone unlocked successfully. My thanks to all the devs for making this possible. This is one time I don't mind voiding my warranty.
[Motorola Photon 4G] mikeyinid:
the2dcour, looks like no 4g after unlocking. is there any reason it would cause it not to work?
[Motorola Photon 4G] ndroid916:
:-( same here 4g is no working right after unlocking
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
lost 3G momentarily too lol
[Motorola Photon 4G] ooxcfhxoo:
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[Motorola Photon 4G] ooxcfhxoo:
get root checker from the market
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
4g works here and so does 3g no problems at all.

somethings up with the rsd lite and the delivery of the flash i believe.

i booted to osx lion and did it all in bash and worked like a champ

will write up more detailed instructions later on

spent 4 hours to get unlocked and recovery.

thanks to everyone who made this possible
[Motorola Photon 4G] Whosdaman:
So unlocking doesn't break 4G?
[Motorola Photon 4G] joetemp75:
It broke it for me
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
it didnt for me.

i have connected and had no issues. but i guess there has been problems for some.

I installed the 1mb download through sbf_flash kept my existing system files and didnt do the full system restore/wipe version.

thats probably why mine works
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
possibly a data restore could work hmmm.....

EDIT: Nope data restore no go...
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
i dont know if flashing the original mr file would reverse the unlock. granted it would restore the system to default and then you would have to start over.

also on a side note if you do the supercharver v6 script to make things run smoother... dont go past option 4 or youre moto boot screen will blink at you.

had to do a battery pull then boot to recovery and restore to factory default to get it back to working before the mod.

could just be my phone im not sure.

or i wonder if through moto-fastboot there is a command to lock since it has the unlock values... hopefully you wrote down your code.
[Motorola Photon 4G] mikeyinid:
Locking the bootloader and restoring 4g is as easy as flashing cm5 in rsd lite. I did it 3 times tonight trying to pinpoint the exact cause. It is unlocking the bootloader. So for now its a tradeoff. Unlocked and no 4g, or locked and 4g...
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
not true sir. im unlocked and i have 4g

if you can restore it to factory default by flashing cm5

then if you decide to unlock again, do not flash the full system wipe.

flash the 1mb bootloader file.

if it aint broke dont fix it.
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
how did you obtain root?
[Motorola Photon 4G] mikeyinid:
i did exactly that. it still breaks 4g. didnt you use sbf_flash in linux? that is probably why you have 4g, if you really even do. your the only person ive seen say they have 4g after unlocking.
[Motorola Photon 4G] roadster92:
1. Did restore using MR5. 4G all good!!

2. Decide to flash the 1MB boot loader, flash ended up error message but the device is unlock, I don't even have to go through the moto-fastboot oem unlock ##########. The device boot with unlock boot loader and everything from MR5 still there (no Wipe at ALL)

3. 4G broke again. Now in process to restore MR5. :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
you made a backup of everything before root?
[Motorola Photon 4G] snoopy1e11:
im on a mac everytime i try to fastboot oem unlock i get fastboot is not a command. Is it something im supposed to put n da moto-fastboot-osx folder? Help plz fast boot oem unlock wrkd fine on nexus i just need help with this last step
[Motorola Photon 4G] alex2792:
I couldn't get fastboot to work in OSX,it would keep saying waiting for device. Worked fine on Win 7 Parallels though.
[Motorola Photon 4G] joetemp75:
try moto-fastboot not just fastboot
[Motorola Photon 4G] e-motion:
Assuming Tim-Tim is correct, wouldn't we be able to flash the 1MB bootloader even if we already did the moto-fastboot with SBF unlocker method to get 4G back ? Or do we have to be locked again 1st ?
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Just to be clear, your fuses are still burnt from unlocking even if you revert to a locked bootloader. The changes made to your system are permanent. I am still trying to figure out why there are problems, this happened with Droid X2 today as well.

The unlock does not touch your radio, there _should_ not be any loss of 4g. Then again, stranger things have happened.
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
I obtained root with system.img
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
Did you have the phone in fastboot mode?
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
when i flashed the derpunlock.sbf i didnt have any errors

i flashed using flash_sbf script running 10.7 osx

it flashed correctly and my phone automatically booted as soon as i was done.

im using a triboot computer "win 7 ultimate 64-10.7 osx-11.4 ubuntu"

if you need instrctions for mac just pm me and ill point you in the right direction.

the funniest thing about this whole thing is when you turn on your phone and in white letters it says unlocked.

and ill try and get a screenshot of 4g. i gotta crash soon i got work
[Motorola Photon 4G] e-motion:
As long as it acts as if locked in case I need to exchange the phone...

I was just going by what TimTim says, and wondering mostly if an unlock (1MB bootloader) can be done right on top of another (original moto-fastboot) without relocking 1st.
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
also

i removed my sim card when i did it.

idk if thats the missing piece of the puzzle but thats what i did.

sd card was in lolol
[Motorola Photon 4G] e-motion:
Speaking of, I was thinking that losing the GSM might be in the realm of possibilities too if we lost 4G... Unfortunately, it requires a much longer distance of travel to test that...
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Yes, it will act locked unless someone looks at /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm and that will reveal your unlock always and forever.
[Motorola Photon 4G] e-motion:
Is it a good idea to let the carrier know exactly where to look for this ? That makes it a bit too easy and too soon IMO...
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
heres exactly what happened.

was running cm5

gained root via webtop

removed sim card.

sd card was still in the phone.

flashed yay's 404mb pudding.sbf via rsd lite (phone was in rsd support mode via power + vol up)

file failed after 99% of the code write portion of the process

error stated that package was secure, and that package needed to be nonsecure

lost root

gained root via webtop

flashed derpunlock.sbf via rsd lite (phone was in rsd support mode via power + vol up)

file failed after 99% of the code write portion of the process

error stated that package was secure, and that package needed to be nonsecure

kept root.

booted osx lion 10.7

emailed myself same derpunlock.sbf

placed derpunlock.sbf in my download folder

downloaded sbf_flash @http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/05/sbfflash.html "does not list photon drivers, atrix is supported it worked for me use at your own risk"

changed sbf_flash to sbf_flash.sh "i kept this file in my download folder.

opened terminal

cd downloads

sudo chmod +x sbf_flash.sh

it will prompt for pass "if you dont have a password set up on your admin account, close terminal and make a password since blank field will not work"

that command made it an exe prog

sudo ./sbf_flash.sh derpunlock.sbf

this is going to flash the bootloader

its going to notify you that all files have transferred properly.

phone booted back to android.

power off phone.

press vol down + power to load fastboot.

once phone says fastboot, press vol down until it says fastboot

press vol up to trigger

followed instructions with moto-fastboot here:http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15020756&postcount=1

as soon as the system.img was pushed onto the phone i immediately pushed recovery onto my phone.

and i dont know what to say. my **** works :D
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Trust me, they know where to look. It's not a secret.
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
Lol do you guys not being able to connect have battery saver on where it shuts off data lulz
[Motorola Photon 4G] zikronix:
Im in one of those citites where 4g is being tested. so i may or may not even be on. but Ill test my 4g today, ill also use my mac to re do the root process. Ill let you know what I find.
[Motorola Photon 4G] mikeyinid:
Dude. It DOESNT work.
[Motorola Photon 4G] zikronix:
im going though various variations of testing in the main thread
[Motorola Photon 4G] tim-tim:
sorry for the joke. i was pretty lit and brain dead sorry for off topic

+10char

something has to be going on. im about to start looking at the rsd launcher and see what i can figure out
[Motorola Photon 4G] zikronix:
didnt work from me via linux or mac.
[Motorola Photon 4G] mikeyinid:
I have 100% faith this wont even be an issue for long. Be patient guys.
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
there are two possible solutions to 4g issue. I have jury duty tomorrow so maybe I'll have something to test in the afternoon.

Guess i'll upload them now, they are untested though so use at your own risk and may not solve any problems.

http://diamantephoto.com/photon/photon_puddingv2.rar (pudding without radio RDL)

http://diamantephoto.com/photon/photon_puddingv2_radio.rar (pudding with radio CG and RDL)

If one of them DOES fix your problem please post which one.

Does not work, testing v3.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Whosdaman:
Bump, need testers!
[Motorola Photon 4G] joetemp75:
Are these the same files that are in yay's thread? If they are then they both do not work
[Motorola Photon 4G] Yay 4 Juggs:
Same files neither worked
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Just a quick update on the 4g issue, most likely this will go unresolved until your kernel source is released and someone with the appropriate skills in kernel hacking fixes your ATAGS passed by the bootloader. For now you can either be unlocked and use 3g, or locked and use Wimax/4g. Pick your poison, at least neither is a permanent thing.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Kingbambu:
where cAN I DOWNLOAD THIS CM5
[Motorola Photon 4G] Beknatok:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202666
[Motorola Photon 4G] skyedream:
i heard when we ulocking it, it fries the fuse(what is this anyway?) of it and here is my question, i flashed to pudding rom but did not unlocked the bootloader, i stopped right after the flashing the rom and did not punch in any cmd. then, i heard about 4g issue so i reflashed it to raser rom. does my fuse still alive? or did the fuse(?) fried when i flashed to pudding rom? if i want to unlock the mopho do i have to flash to pudding rom again?
[Motorola Photon 4G] e-motion:
You're fine. Roadster92 in the other thread has an excellent explanation of what the unlock and fuse are. It's confusing but he explains it very clearly.
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
you only burn the fuses if you do the oem unlock. you will need to flash pudding again if you want unlock.
[Motorola Photon 4G] skyedream:
Ah.. ic thanks guys
[Motorola Photon 4G] iSaint:
Everytime i try to flash the "derpunlock.sbf" file it says fail ....:confused:

on RSD Lite ...

someone please help :o

Edit: Don't know if it helps but it fails at "switching phone to BP ..."
[Motorola Photon 4G] ptfdmedic:
Good lord, they are letting everyone in here now. :-)

I haven't unlocked mine yet. Just rooted and cleaned up. Waiting for this to be 4G friendly.
[Motorola Photon 4G] iSaint:
Sweet!! Awesome that you're here too dude !
[Motorola Photon 4G] redhatter:
Question: There are two unlock threads, don't both do an oem unlock that "burn the fuses"? (I would assume "burn the fuses" refered to is really a write to a PROM in hardware if a true PROM write) (as a hardware tech ive "burned" Programmable read-only memory chips many times...."Burning" a PROM is like "Burning" a CD, a permanent, one write only, read many, storage)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_read-only_memory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
[Motorola Photon 4G] ooxcfhxoo:
does for everybody.....pudding does it too.after fail i wait a min or so and pull the battery. the phone boots unlocked w/no 4g
[Motorola Photon 4G] iSaint:
Thanks for answering bro...

Edit: Did what you said ... after it failed i waited a little over a minute then battery pulled and booted up but my 4G was still working ...

so after we flash the derpunlock.sbf file is there anyway to make sure we are unlocked before flashing the system.rar file ?
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
you have to do the fastboot oem unlock proceedure still... to confirm you are unlocked it will say so when you boot up.
[Motorola Photon 4G] iSaint:
THANK YOU! 8) , you're getting 5 thanks tomorrow.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Tokaichi:
Nevermind, got it. woo.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ooxcfhxoo:
it should look something like this

did you issue "oem unlock" via fastboot after flashing?

can you send me derpunlock.sbf....i dont have it i am unlocked via pudding and want to see if there is a difference in the two files
[Motorola Photon 4G] iSaint:
Thanks for the help bro but i eventually figured it out actually it's a simple process guess i was a little nervous/ panicked because i never had a moto device before.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Bigjim1488:
I get this error while trying to flash with RSD Lite. Any ideas??

02:25:06, August 24, 2011

Line: 2203

ERROR: Device SE Flash Sunfire is not supported.

File: D:\GitProjectsReleases\hdt_windows_flash\flash\code\flashdll\FlashCharacteristics.cpp

Device ID: 0
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Is that from fastboot? RSD? What OS? Include as much relevant information as possible please.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Bigjim1488:
RDS. Sorry kinda new to doing things on Moto
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
All I can think of is this:

1) Make sure you have latest version of RSDLite (5.3.1).

2) Reinstall the latest USB drivers for your phone/os.

3) Battery pull on the device, wait a minute or two, then boot directly in to RSD mode (press volume up as it boots).

4) Try to flash again.
[Motorola Photon 4G] redhatter:
OK a question for the2dcour and Yay4juggs

Im planing to do my first unlock of my MoPho, that not the question.

But because there is only one first time you "blow the fuses" (assume write to a programmable hardware ROM chip)

Is there anything you want me to grab before, during or after this process that could help give you a hint as to why unlock breaks 4g?...

I know there a workaround fix after but the question as to why it break in the first place is still open so why waste and opportunity to test theories

FYI I also took the OTA update today, should not be an issue but will see
[Motorola Photon 4G] Yay 4 Juggs:
are you trying to unlock after the OTA?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Yay 4 Juggs:
first off there is no workaround fix...once you're unlocked you lose 4g...the "guide" is very misleading...secondly you have to understand this unlock wasn't really intended for public consumption so you kinda get what you pay for...as far as blowing fuses...that happens once you run the fastboot oem unlock process by inputting your device id to unlock and is done for the sole purpose of engineer testing. It in no way has any adverse affect on the device or anything you do to it besides the warranty.
[Motorola Photon 4G] redhatter:
On the "wasn't really intended for public consumption" totally understand that... work as a computer/telcom/network tech engineer for years done many a warranty voiding hardware fixes and "kluges" for years if needed to get it do what I wanted

As for the "no workaround fix" well on that if you can unlock get a new rom in and relock to make 4g work...it not perfect but for me I would call it a workaround fix for now....other then the extra relocking steps after want the diff if it never stoped 4g...(it like a cover interlock)

As for the "blowing fuses" I know that just a slang term that freaked out some people ...it writing a programmable read only memory chip (PROM's)....

Ive "blown" (written) hundreds of PROM's as a depot tech....

Thinking this is doing "damage" is like saying buring a CD is doing "damage"...it how you write to this type hardware and it a "write once"

Thank for the work getting this... I know you caught some very unfair crap for a while over "broke 4g/burned fuses" from some that didn't undestand just how stuff works
[Motorola Photon 4G] Yay 4 Juggs:
the thing people don't understand is you don't need to be unlocked to flash the rom in the guide...can be done in bootstrap
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Currently there are no roms that I know of that SHOULD require you to be unlocked at all. Once you get custom kernels the game will change. The only thing I think that requires you to unlock is flashing the pre-rooted /system image. So sure, the workaround (ie reinstalling default bootloader) would work for that. I'll have to take a look at the files posted for the workaround though.

The fuse that is blown is one of many eFuses in the device. Devices like the Xoom have fastboot oem relock I believe, whereas our Motorola phones do not.

edit: After reading the keep your 4G guide, I think I will release a small SBF that should help users revert to stock bootloader quickly. Note that this file should not be used after you guys get any future updates. If there is an update and I don't notice it please don't hesitate to notify me via private message. Applies to all updates released after August 24 2011.

edit2: WARNING: UNTESTED FILES AHEAD

There should be no issue with the file since plenty of people have reverted to "stock" latest update/locked bootloader with no problem, and that's all that this is.

However, it has not been tested when someone tries to do this with custom recovery still installed. If you're feeling brave and can get your phone replaced in case of a catastrophic failure, go ahead and flash with custom recovery still installed (not the bootstrap one). it may fail, it may softbrick but it really shouldn't hard brick.

http://diamantephoto.com/photon_nopudding4u.rar - return to locked bootloader BL only image 1mb download
[Motorola Photon 4G] redhatter:
I was under the impresstion the Alien rom require you to be unlocked load relock backup restore to work right, not act buggy... I know it shouldn't....But then Ive got a permanent bloody dent in my forehead from "should & shouldn't" from years of working with computers and networks
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Unless Alien flashes custom partitions such as kernel recovery system etc it _shouldnt_ require unlock. It could require that you have the custom recovery installed, which does require unlock (I know nothing about this since I don't use custom recovery/CWM). But honestly there is no reason for this other than convenience.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Alien is pre-rooted.

If juggs knows how to flash a pre-rooted on an unlocked phone he hasn't shared it and would much rather post that the workaround is bull****. I'm not really in the mood for this crap. I put up with a enough BS when working on HDMwIn and FullHDMI. I have deleted the guide, Evo Desktop, Sprint S&R policy threads and other contribs. My account closure pending admin approval.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ooxcfhxoo:
he's talking about "system.img".......this will give you root, but you NEED to be unlocked. I have flashed it with a locked/stock bootloader and it will flash but not boot. booting fails and returns an error , something like "Bootloader error 4"

what intrigues me is that now that there is a 1mb bootloader file "nopudding4u" im curious to see if you could unlock>flash system.img>flash locked bootloader rom.....then still have root with a locked bootloader.If so it would just be another method.
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Mrrrhh? I've never even read a post written by you so please don't think that anything I said was at all referring to anything you posted. Don't give up if you have good things to say, people will always rag on you, whine, ask stupid questions, and etc. Also flashing pre-root on unlocked phone is trivial, read my OP.

You should ABSOLUTELY be able to do this. I want to know if you can do this and still retain the custom CWM recovery, not the bootstrap one. I doubt it will work like that, and if it does I doubt some of the more advanced / unlock only features will work. Then again, I've been wrong many times before.

If Alien includes pre-root it could require unlock for sure. Again, I shouldn't speak about things I haven't tested myself. But this would be covered under what I said about "flashing custom /system files".
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
@ the2dcour

The last part of the comment wasn't directed at you an I apologize if it seemed that way. It had to do with juggs comments that the workaround did nothing and/or wasn't needed which in essence means that either unlocking doesn't break 4G or an unlock isn't needed to flash a pre-rooted. As far as I can tell both are incorrect but no alternative or proof otherwise was ever posted. I have no tolerance for this from devs as we should know better. I'll still contribute to the development community but will contact devs directly and post my projects elsewhere.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Yay 4 Juggs:
I never said unlock doesn't break 4g hell i am the one that said it does...what i did say was that your guide was a long winded process and only confuses people more...i was able to flash and boot with alien rom on my locked device via bootstrap recovery...why no one else could is beyond me. In theory your guide is great but less is more...the less someone has to do to their device the more likely they wont break something...you want to take your ball and go home then let me get the gate for you. this is a community to help people.
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Not sure if you're refferring to him or me, or what the point is. Hopefully I can get a mod to clean up this thread soon ~_~

Please keep it relevant and on topic guys.
[Motorola Photon 4G] justforflashing:
Still new to Moto and the way you unlock/flash/etc...

What is the difference in the 3?

I am rooted and am currently using the bootstrap recovery and have flashed a P_ROM. Im wanting to perm unlock, but alot of this is still new to me (just the verbage...not rooting and flashing)

So, once I download the pudding.rar where does it go? I know how to use the command lines, but not sure the process of pushing the files??

ANY info is greatly appreciated!
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Get either of the 1mb files and flash using RSDlite 5.3.1. That's how you "push" the files.
[Motorola Photon 4G] justforflashing:
Ok THANKS!...thats what I assumed...but you know what they say about ASS-u-me-ing! :)

Also, Ive noticed a few posts in this thread specifically, that say you can flash a full ROM using bootstrap, even if you arent unlocked? Is this truely correct? I used bootstrap recovery to flash kennethpenn's Lazer P-ROM? Im sure there is more to it...I just dont know what!
[Motorola Photon 4G] the2dcour:
Full ROMs no, P-ROMs yes. Full ROMs (depending on who you ask) should at least have a custom kernel, or at least _something_ that requires unlocked status to flash, imho.