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[Motorola Photon 4G] ligerny:
Hi,

Just got my Photon, and it seem's when talking to someone i can hear myself talk. On speakerphone it's fine. I checked and the echo is on my end, the other person does not hear it. I went to another sprint store to test floor model and i also hear it. It's not horrible, but you can definitely tell that you hear yourself as your talking.

Does anyone else have this? I'm a little worried that this might be a known defect since i noticed this on another photon? Can anyone comment?

thanks
[Motorola Photon 4G] beartrap:
I've not had this issue or heard others complain, but I've had this happen on occasion with all past phones. I chalked it up to tower and signal strength and could never reproduce it intentionally. I'd sometimes have to ask the other person if I could call them back and it went away on the callback.

BTW - my fat finger hit thanks instead of quote, so you've got a head start on your thanks meter.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ScandaLeX:
Usually (on any phone) when hearing yourself or echo; turn the volume down.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Sparky_McBurning:
I've actually been hearing this too, but it's odd. Not a normal echo. Instead, it almost sounds like the phone is hollow and my voice is echoing back through the physical shell of the phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] criptix:
This is oldschool sound y'all just used to the phones that cancel your voice out.

;) ;)
[Motorola Photon 4G] ligerny:
That's exactly right! You explained it better than me lol. It sounds hollow and i hear my own voice back.

Atleast i wasn't imagining it. What sucks is that i hope it's not a global issue, hopefully my phone is defective or there's a setting i need to change. Going to go back to the store today and see what they tell me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ligerny:
Yeah but this is a premium phone, this isn't an oldschool phone lol
[Motorola Photon 4G] scoobdude:
i am gonna go with criptix as well. This is actually a feature I missed.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ligerny:
So there's nothing that can be done? Is this a software or harware issue? i guess worst come to worst i'll try to go back to the evo, but i really like the phone :(
[Motorola Photon 4G] kimmied2000:
Under call settings, try switching the "voice privacy" setting. Someone in another thread said this helped.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ligerny:
I saw that too in my google search, it didn't work. I even tried switching to Sprint Only under networks and still the same thing. I really hope this is just a defective phone, i cant imagine this skipped motorola's quality control.
[Motorola Photon 4G] codee:
This is intentional guys. It's not a defect or a hardware/software issue. It's designed to give you a richer sounding conversation. Other phones /manufacturers have been too cheap/lazy to do this, I'm glad moto did. There aren't any settings you can change to "fix" it because there isn't anything to fix. The swapping the phone won't do anything either.

The phone is working as it was designed to.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ligerny:
Richer sound? I call this a major quality control f*ckup. Nothing personal towards you, just my opinion. I should not hear any other noise then the intended one. I will be going back to my evo until they fix it.

In any event thanks to everyone for clarifying this.
[Motorola Photon 4G] bitbang3r:
It's an intentional design decision to fix the problem of people rudely (and unnecessarily) shouting into cell phones in public places. Think back to your childhood, when you made phone calls on a real non-cordless landline phone whose wires had a direct signal path from the handset all the way to the central office. Those phones echoed back a small amount of your voice from the earpiece, and that was exactly how people liked it because if it stopped, you knew beyond doubt that something happened to the phone line and you were now wasting your breath talking. It also kept you from shouting into the phone, because you would have annoyed yourself as well as the person unfortunate enough to be on the other end of the line.

I'm glad Motorola is now officially non-evil. HTC and Samsung have come a long way, but Motorola is a company that genuinely knows how to make a *telephone* and how to design radios that work really well. There's a reason why Motorola has survived into the 21st century despite hardcore competition from Japanese technology and cheap Chinese imports -- their best stuff is really, really good. One advantage of being a company that's been around for about a hundred years is the fact that they have engineers who've worked for them since the 70s and REALLY understand analog signal design. Motorola has guys working for them who understand radio and analog signals with the same passion that we understand digital electronics and programming. It makes a difference, and it shows :D
[Motorola Photon 4G] LouieGrandie:
The echo has happened to every cell phone I have ever had. Have even had it on some land line calls. It is not an every time thing, just once in a while. I do not think there is anything you can do to prevent it.
[Motorola Photon 4G] cornelious2:
When I start hearing my voice its usually because the other person hasme on speaker or they have their in call volume too loud.
[Motorola Photon 4G] kawaski47:
I liked this feature immensely when I had my photon. Definitely made the conversations sound richer!
[Motorola Photon 4G] dougxd:
Guys...... this feature is technically called "Sidetone" and I'm personally very glad this is in the Photon.

You ever been around some jackass who is basically yelling into his phone (which never actually helps the other party "hear" better)? I bet sidetone would have helped quiet him down a bit. It helps to keep your voice under control as well simply mimicking what you hear anyway when naturally talking out loud. Your head has builtin sidetone :D
[Motorola Photon 4G] Craconia:
Hello everyone,

I'm considering getting the Motorola Photon mainly for its sidetone and wondered if you still get the sidetone when using a headset thru the 3.5mm jack?

Thanks!

Craconia

p.d. I'm sorry for resurrecting an old thread but the topic here was right on!
[Motorola Photon 4G] dtaylorr:
both

I've had both. Seems to come and go.
[Motorola Photon 4G] lufc:
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &

Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting

Thanks ✟

Moving to Q&A
[HTC Sensation] StefanB86:
Hey guys, I found this case today for those who may be looking for a case with stand.

Different colors to choose from.

EDIT: I don't know if it is just for today but you can use this code OBOYEAR to get 30% OFF.

http://www.obostore.com/nillkin-360-shinning-hard-faceplate-for-htc-sensation-p-1935-c-141.html
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
not a fan of that color, but the design is really nice, i wonder how durable the case & stand are
[HTC Sensation] StefanB86:
Yes, I don't like the color but pretty cool design. I wish they had the same in black :(
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
The kickstand thread had the link to an ebay seller which had this and two other colors, neon friggin green and some other out there color lol. No basic black at all from the ebay seller anyways. The seller sold it for like 30usd IIRC. Too expensive for one of these types of cases IMO but for 12 bux I may get one. lol

EDIT: Got the green one and also a 'white' cover. Pretty cheap too! Will post pics and also mini first impressions when received. Most likely within a week or two.
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
thanks you OP. FINALLY something to contemplate. much appreciated.
[HTC Sensation] StefanB86:
Wow 30usd for that cover? that guy is crazy lol. Be sure to post some pictures of it :)

You're welcome, buddy. :D
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
Yep ebay can get ya when ur not lookin lol.

Of course I will post pics when I receive it. I have a camera at work for this very reason lol.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
Nillkin kickstand case

Just got this in today and slapped it on and took a few pics. The case is like the barely there cases with a slide out kickstand built in. The build is good for 10 bux and the green is ok. It's almost android green so it works for me LOL....

Putting on the case was like putting on the barely there case. Taking it off is the same. Now using the kickstand....well....it's a hit or miss. You can't really use it in portrait, and I am not sure it's supposed to be used that way. That's because the bottom is exposed so the curve of the phone makes it rock back and forth slightly. Now the beauty of this is the portrait mode. This works the best and most stable.

As for flipping the kickstand out, you just take the bottom part and pull straight out. And that's the easy peasy part. Just pull until you past the notch to 'lock' it in place. However, for me, to put away and fold up the kickstand is a bit of a pain. There should be some sort of press release to push the tab that initially locked the kickstand down so that the stand can fold back easy. I just press the track down and push the kickstand to fold. It's scary to do but is the best way I found to fold.

Edit: also note that this case came with a screen protector as well, but I have the HTC one on so now I have a spare if needed.

UPDATE 8/25/11: One thing I found on the Nillken case is that if you use your OEM charger which is pretty bubbly at the connection to the phone; the cable does not seat very well. However, I am using craigsdocks.com's dock and that aftermarket charger cable has no 'bubble' at the end so that seats into the case rather easily with a little filing down at the opening. Just a fyi for all who are looking at this case.

Anyway, here are the pics...
[HTC Sensation] GarJones27:
That case actually looks really nice. I'm unexpectedly a fan of the green. Might have to shell out a few bucks to get one of these (even though I just ordered the Case-Mate Tough Case).
[HTC Sensation] StefanB86:
Great pictures, kpjimmy!

That's a nice case, I like it. I thought that the green was going to be much brighter but it's a really nice color actually, I might order one just to have one around :D

Thanks for the review and the pictures, man. :)
[HTC Sensation] RaViCa:
My wife has a case just like this for her myTouch 4G except it's clear. Fits really snug to her phone and I like how it hardly adds much bulk at all.

She actually got hers directly from the tmobile store though.

--- Correction... it's actually the myTouch 4G Body Glove Protector. Looks the same though even down to the kick stand. It just has rubber sides for gripping. Take a look for yourself. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4253-85e0-1bf1e4506a5e&inCart=True&catCode=-1

You notice they hardly released any cases for the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
That's pretty similar! Yea sucks we have to go over the pond to buy stuff lol

UPDATE: One thing I found on the Nillken case is that if you use your OEM charger which is pretty bubbly at the connection to the phone; the cable does not seat very well. However, I am using craigsdocks.com's dock and that aftermarket charger cable has no 'bubble' at the end so that seats into the case rather easily. Just a fyi for all who are looking at this case.
[HTC Sensation] quahog_convo:
Wow, that green does look pretty good, haha.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
Here's an update: The 'correct' way to unfold the kickstand as per nillkin's site. This didn't come in with the instructions so I am glad I did it right! lol
[HTC Sensation] predator21:
cool...nice pick
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
8/26/11 Update

Just to let you all know that the plug cut outs are a bit off. The volume rocker I do not care too much with, but the rocker is close to the case and not centered. But that could be just so you wouldn't accidentally hit it.

However the plug port is in fact a nuisance. I had to take out an sharp knife (exacto knife is preferred) with a small slim blade and slice away at it like cheese lol. Then filed/sanded the area a bit to smooth it out and now all my usb cords plug in fine oem or not.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
Off topic a bit

Along with the kickstand case, I also got a tpu like case. Here it is listed in the market if anyone wants it for cheap.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17011817#post17011817
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I purchased one of these but doubt I'll get any more.

Inside the package is a diagram of how to open the kick stand and still it was hard to pull out. Then putting it back I accidentally put a crease in the stand. It's just too hard to move in and out without damaging it. I also don't like that the case does not cover the top or bottom at all. If it had a squared off bottom it could be used for portrait mode. But the way it has nothing on the bottom, the slightest touch causes it to tip when in portrait mode. I don't even know why they show the device in portrait in their advertisements.

It's a very nice concept, but it still needs a little work to be really good.

Also, they include a lent free cloth in the package, in addition to that screen protector ;) .

They do give you a lot for the price though.

I think it would be perfect if they used their TPU case for the body covering. (With a flat bottom for portrait.) And a kick stand that was also TPU or didn't snap so rigidly into place. So it would be a little easier to open and close the kick stand.

As for the colors, I got a golden one. It actually looks like a blend of brown and gold. The case is not as BRIGHT as the pictures. They are not as obnoxious in the actual color when you actually have one. The advertising seems to put a bright spot light on them, to make them appear brighter than they actually are.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
I tend to agree with you on this. As for the track, I have to litterally take the case off and retract the stand. Otherwise you would likely break something lol.

For the price, not too shabby. Build quality the case 4 stars, kickstand concept 4 stars, however, using it is way to difficult= 2 stars. Overall rating for me is a good 3 stars.
[HTC Sensation] rosedog:
I just got mine and to correct the problem with the retraction while the phone is inserted, I pulled the kickstand back a little more (not much) to shave the angle piece down a little (the ridge portion) into more of a triangular shape. Now it retracts while the phone is inserted on still locks into place when pulled out.
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
Thanks that did solve the issue! I just used a knife from my quirky switch :).

Shaved it down a bit and now retracts without much ado. :D
[HTC Sensation] rosedog:
Glad it worked for you! I was 7 layers of pissed at first when I couldn't get it retracted.

I like it but if I come across one of those new style Body Glove cases with kickstand I'll get that too.
[HTC Sensation] Damitu:
I just found this today!

http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/csk3htsenk-bk.htm

It's under development but, if enough people add it to a wish list

maybe the'll develop it faster!
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
Saw it a few days ago. I put that on my wish list already as well :)
[HTC Sensation] homiethedev:
thats so awesome omq
[HTC ChaCha] yoicks:
Does anyone know what the kernel base address is for the ChaCha?

Thanks,
[HTC ChaCha] yoicks:
For those that are interested it is 0x12c00000
[HTC ChaCha] qbert456:
What does this enable you to do as I'm not familiar with these kind of things !
[HTC ChaCha] yoicks:
Well it is needed for creating a boot image...
[Focus General] mbudden:
So I've had my Focus for a while. But there is one thing that annoys me to bits. It never switches from 3G to EDGE when there is no 3G coverage... I will have no bars, but it won't switch down to EDGE.

At my home, I have little to no 3G coverage, but I have amazing EDGE coverage. It's been killing my battery. Does anyone else have this issue?
[Focus General] EnderPsp:
I don't have this issue on my AT&T Focus, anywhere in Europe.

Can you please provide some info on your radion, hw/sw versions?
[Focus General] mbudden:
Interesting...

I wish there was some way to force it to 2G since I'm always around WiFi.

But

Firmware Rev. 2103.11.3.3

Hardware Rev. 3.1.0.7

Radio Software Ver. 2103.11.3.3

Radio Hardware Ver. 0.0.0.3

Need anything else?
[Focus General] EnderPsp:
I have the same, mine is AT&T.

Maybe you can test with another SIM?
[Focus General] Ebrecht:
I too have been trying to find a solution to this issue. I was even able to get the 3G toggle to appear in cellular settings thru registry edits, but the toggle did absolutely nothing, my 3G still remained on even tho the toggle said off.

I just updated to Mango RTM hoping maybe for a solution, but that didn't do anything either. I even tried the diagnositc codes and changing the signal, but still nothing. It's the one problem that really bugs me about this phone! Need to be able to turn off 3G!

So if anyone finds a solution, im all ears!
[Focus General] adiliyo:
yea, the option that can be added by edits doesn't seem to do anything. sadly the only option is to either find some wifi access so the 3g radio turns off, or somehow get better reception. :\
[HTC EVO 3D] Saleenfiend:
Trying to run the Dalvik Debug Monitor and can't seem to get it figured... currently my CMD box shows what is written below and my phone shows offline.
[HTC EVO 3D] joeykrim:
perhaps try the last piece of advice it provides,

adb kill-server and then ./ddms which should auto start the adb server again.

if you're on windows, might give it a reboot.

sometimes it can be odd when plugging/unplugging phones, etc.

also, if you're using eclipse for application development (your logcat of errors shows eclispe, eclipse will sometimes initiate an adb connection and prevent another instance of adb from establishing a connection .. this is usually the issue that i run into!
[HTC EVO 3D] Saleenfiend:
Thanks, ill try this when I get home from work. Hopefully this will solve it.. new PC problems always suck

I caused water damag to my Laptop for about 2-3 seconds. Although it is booting now after about 2 days to dry.. too nervous to play with it yet. (Hopefully I get lucky)

Supra RCMix Shooter
[Samsung Infuse 4G] cline2:
It seems that my phone is sleeping from network even it said its connected to network. My friends sent texts to me and i never received it i had to turn airplane mode on then off all of sudden i get alot of texts wtf!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jimmie48jj:
stock? rom?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] cline2:
Infuse 2.0.2
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
I had that issue on 2.0.2 a few times. I also experienced it on a few other roms but was not really tracking it. I do not seem to be having it on 2.0.3

Are you using the included kernel or a different kernel?

Oh, what radios are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Team ACIDS goal for the ICBINB series roms are to give you the stock look, but with every tweak known to the sgs4g community. So yes there are many versions of ICBINB one for every gb build and one for KD1 froyo build, but remember they are only stock roms TWEAKED OUT to the fullest by yours truly #ACID :P

ICBINB is just our STOCK series of roms, more personalized team acid roms will be approaching very soon :D

to flash this:

you need to make sure have have flashed some kind of GB bootloaders before

disable voodoo on whatever rom your on

flash the ICBINB kh1 rom

make sure voodoo is still disabled

boot up rom

install busybox

enable voodoo through app

if linda says not enough space on sdcard create a partition on your sdcard from CWM

enjoy :P

link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W3U1Q3YS

TEGRAK OC SETTINGS:

level 0= 1.3 no voltage changes

IM CURRENTLY ON 1.6 -1385 - 1165

level 1= 800 - 1075 - 1050

level 2= 400 - 1000 - 1000

level 3= 200 -900 - 980

level 4= 100 - 850 - 950

governor must always remain ONDEMAND!!!!

Thanks to:

drhonk

krylon360

whitehawkx

team acid

htaak for his suprise :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Awesome! I can't wait to try it! This will pretty much be on par with KG6 ICBINB v2, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Spider_Pig27:
Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crackpot:
Does this use the stock theme or the one from v2 of KG6?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
its normal stock theme, it has all the newest update in v2 and there is a surprise when you shut off your phone :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Spider_Pig27:
Quick q! If im IBINB kg6 v1 wil i be able to just flash over

Wipe everything and flash?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
disable voodoo on kg6

flash kh1

boot up rom

install buxybox

enable voodoo

turn off phone

turn on phone

i wrote this in the OP guys read!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Spider_Pig27:
Allright thanks.. just wanted to double check
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xmaster1736:
Could I flash this from icbinb froyo?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
not to be rude but READ THE OP

if you have gb bootloaders from flashing a kg4 leaked or kh1 leaked and you disable voodoo then yes you can
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
Damn you guys rock. One thing holding me back right now from getting ext4 on system is "not enough space on sdcard" tried it with ICINB and KH1 dropping honks kernal. I have already partitioned the card for audiophile so the partition is there it just isn't being recognized by GB. Everything else is on ext4 and working great. I really don't want to lose another gig if I don't have to. I'm on an old Ibook G4 Mac. So any way to get GB to notice the partition that's already there?

(and yes I READ ALOT AND THEN EVEN MORE). In all I've read there isn't an answer at this time other than cwm advanced repartition 1048 swap 0? BUT IT'S THERE ALREADY!

THANKS
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] kennyp987:
FML
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Just finished flashing this one! It's BEAUTIFUL! Linda sounds sexier now. ;P

Much love and much thanks dsexton702 and Team ACID! :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] untalented893:
Me = Excited :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] steeleain:
Thanks man! You are one talented individual ;) Followed all your threads and all went off without a hitch :D Much appreciated. I love this phone! TEAM ACID ROCKS :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Just because you did it on audiophile doesn't mean it worked, makea new partition in cwm and retry the conversion :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] l0lz0rss:
yo dsexton after you create your partition using cwm, is there a way to delete it?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Hrm, I'm flashing from ICBINB KG6 v1. I realized that SD Booster isn't there (I'm assuming it was supposed to be there, since ICBINB KG6 v2 has it).

This is what I did:

NANDROID of ICBINB KG6 v1

Turned off lagfix

CWM flashed ICBINB KH1

Made sure lagfix was off

Booted up

Installed BusyBox 1.17.1

Turned on lagfix

CWM Recovery > DID NOT WIPE DATA, only wiped cache

Advance restored NANDROID ICBINB KG6 v1

Converted to ext4

Everything works soo sexily, but I just noticed SD booster isn't there. I know SD booster is available through the market though. Just wanna make sure if it's not meant to be there and if I can install it!

As always, thanks again for this amazing ROM! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Hmmm sdbooster should be there grab a file explorer and look in /data/app or simply install from market, it should be there though are you sure your ext4 converter went through properly
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Yup, I heard Linda sing. I'll just pick it up from the market. Btw, what size would you recommend for the SD Booster cache?

On another note, I'm hitting 2,200-2,300 on Quadrant at 1.0. Super buttery smooth! Only complaint is that my games aren't running as smooth as ICBINB Froyo.