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[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Fancy look and apps, I don't know, (It's just the dialer I haven't found a suitable replacement yet, but, I have learnt to live without smart dial. Never had it any of my previous phones anyway) but for ease of use, Yes, I definitely agree with you, a Sense ROM should be your choice.

If you are looking for a No nonsense out-of-the-box experience -> Sense

If you are willing to spend time and make the phone truly 'yours' -> AOSP
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
I want to ask what is the difference between CM7 and Jokerdroid 4.2 ?? I just know that CM7 is no-sense and Jokerdroid sense. But tell me something more about the difference between those 2 ROMs. I ask because I want to choose which one to flash on my wildfire.

Thx
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Try both, because, as said by everyone previously, it depends on whether you like Sense or not.

Anyway, the major difference is that Jokerdroid is a Android 2.2.1 Froyo Sense ROM (Think better optimized Stock ROM with additional features like A2SD, OC etc), and Cyanogenmod 7 is an Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread No-Sense ROM (Completely different compared to a Stock ROM. This here is Stock Android).
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Ok but I have an android 2.2.1 sense on my phone already so what is the sens to flash a jokerdroid which is the same ROM as mine? xD
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Its more optimized and has additional features like OC, A2SD etc as I stated before. The full log changes are (Lifted from the Jokerdroid thread)

■ Kernel : nFinity Kernel

■ Build Number : 2.37.415.1

■ CPU Overclock : 710 Mhz

■ Deoxed

■ Rooted

■ Enable A2SD [The cache is on SD]

■ 167 MB FREE

■ Improved the use of RAM

■ Optimized Menù Scrolling

■ SDspeedHack

■ Fixed Graphics Problem

■ More stable

■ Trackball WAKE

■ Optimized Wifi and Data connection

■ Percentual Icon for Battery

The stock Android ROM currently on your phone doesn't have these.

This is precisely the reason why you should flash CM7 first (Or atleast I recommend it that way). If you flash it and like it, well and good, but, if you don't like it, it implies you like Sense, and, in such cases, it makes sense (lol) to choose Jokerdroid over the Stock inbuilt ROM.
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
All right so to switch to jokerdroid if I will have CM7 I just need to do the same procedure for flashing it? means booting the phone to recovery, wiping everything and installing the joker ROM from my sdcard right?
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Yes, the procedure remains the same for any ROM you want to switch to.

Only precaution here: Froyo 2.2.1 ROMs need Clockworkmod 2.x to be flashed. They will not work on Clockworkmod 3.x or 4.x. The workaround to this is to install ROM Manager app, then select "Flash Clockworkmod Recovery" within ROM Manager. This will install Clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 to your SDCard (This will not conflict with your existing Clockworkmod version). Then select "Reboot into Recovery" from within ROM Manager, this will take you to Clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 (Green Text).

Once you enter Clockworkmod 2.5, as you stated, the procedure remains same.
[Wildfire General] eikcihc:
A2sd doesn't rly work for all apps for mine
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
So U are saying that I have froyo ? I have the android 2.2.1 from HTC, is it froyo? So what should I do to install CM7 or Jokerdroid? xD. For CM7 which clockworkmod do I should have? can I get that from the revolutionary?
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Android 2.1 is called Eclair

Android 2.2 is called Froyo

Android 2.3 is called Gingerbread

So yes, you have Froyo.

For CM7, any Clockworkmod will do (3.x or 4.x). And Yes, you can get that from Revolutionary. Once Revolutionary performs S-OFF, it asks you whether you want to install Clockworkmod, and, if you select Yes, it installs the latest version. (Which is 4.0.1.4 at the moment)
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
yeah.. fonts, i use cm7 atm and nhnt11s sense theme - pure awesomeness along with adw ex, alt drawer and agile lock :) my phone has been cyanogenMODIFIED lol not to mention fonts are better now lol
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
So I cannot flash jokerdroid on Clockworkmod (3.x or 4.x) ? ^^
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
No, you will get a long error (Wont harm your phone though), which something along the lines of "Amend scripting has been deprecated by Google in Cupcake. Please switch to Edify Scripting or use an older version of Clockworkmod which supports Amend scripting" (Something like that, not too sure of the exact works)

Tl;dr: No, you cannot flash JokerDroid using Clockworkmod 3.x / 4.x
[Wildfire General] steve_032:
Exactly the same setup as me! I've messed around a lot with themes and settings and CM7 with sense theme and adw ex is definitey the way to go.
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
^^

/10char
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
So I go for CM7 then ^^

Edit: Yeees I rooted my phone xD. Now before installing CM7 do I need to install new radio driver in my phone too???
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
only if you have gps issues, otherwise, no
[Wildfire General] Alyzembawy:
No, you don't !!..

CM has got its own radio, just flash it :D

Don't forget to wipe data and cache partition !! :D
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Not before, but after. That too, only if you experience issues with GPS.

(Radio also needs Clockworkmod 2.x, keep it in mind)
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Mmm I dont use gps on my phone so maybe I dont need it at all :D

Yes I remember that I need to wipe data and partition cache. :p

Edit: but I read that with CM7 there is an issue with bluetooth? is that correct???

So if I need to flash a new radio to fix it how can I downgrade my clockworkmod to 2.x?
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
yeah, i got no issues with bluetooth tho, sends and recieves stuff just fine lol, never changed anything after flashing, i have recovery 4.x, but you can flash recovery with fastboot method (thanks 3xeno).

i had the same problem too :o

so here, this thread -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1134254

look at post number 5, and youll get the answer ;) gl and hf
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
You can follow that, if you want to permanently downgrade to 2.x, else, just flash this file in your existing 3.x/4.x

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=662193&d=1311319218

This will give you temporary 2.5.0.7.
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Ok but where is my invitation to Google+ ? :D
[Wildfire General] Nhs666:
I want to give my 2 cents to this diskussion, i think its not right to say

cm7 is not so fancy as sense....cm7 for me is just that what you make out of it.

For example the gallery app, as mentioned before Quickpick doing the job greate, have the sense users tried this??? And after trying this you can't tell me that you like the sense gallery more ... Its much quicker its nicer to scroll...it has everything you want.

The standart-theme in cm7 isn't really appealing in my eye of view, as mentioned before the nt-sense theme doing the job great..because it supports LDPI. So maybe someone who try cm7 is not so happy in the first point of time, but when you explore your possibilities, its just great.

Im running the ram-script from juwe11 and it works nicely, it seems to me that this is a performance increase. Compache is off by now as this seems to me that it makes the phone snappier. I deinstalled all things i don't use googleseach, standart-browser, voiceseatch,adw and so on......

The phone is fast as hell and now with 32mb vm heap its possible running recourse-intensive apps like navigation really smooth.

Another thing is that a lot of wallpapers designed for phones with better resolution are better displayed on cm7 than in sense, i think it is because the lcd-density of sense-roms has a greater value than on cm7, but correct me if i am wrong. (In Sense for example a fine mesh-wallpaper isn't looking nice...its displayed far too big)

The ONLY things that in sense for me are an advantage are:

- The Dialer ( Replacement is not really a option for me...because of the performance)

- The contact pictures in Cm7 are loaded while scrolling ...in sense they stay all the time

- the facebook integration is better than just using the facebook app in cm7 ( but that doesn't bother me at all)
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
true

/10char
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Is live wallpapers working on CM7?

And if I have clockworkmod 3.x on my phone can I flash the radio again from ROM Manager? I read that it can be done without downgrading the clockworkmod
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
lwps are working, idk about the radio, i think you shouldnt touch it, just leave it be if everything is alright.
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Yes, you can flash the radio again from ROM Manager. Its not necessary to downgrade.
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Ok, I have CM7 now on my phone and I want to try Jokerdroid as well to see which one is better, can I flash the jokerdroid ROM from ROM Manager? I dont need to downgrade my clockworkmod?
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Yes, you can. Remember to perform a full wipe from the Clockworkmod Menu before flashing it. And remember the Sense Fix you will need after flashing JokerDroid:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
But why in particulary I need to Flash recovery recovery-clockwork-3.0.0.6-buzz ?

Why not other version of clockwork? I don't quite understand. Btw someone told me that Jokerdroid is not working with clockwork 3.x ... so what is the truth then? Clockwork 2.x or 3.x? U are guys so confusing....

And how about this ROM? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878115

Do I need to do the same procedure as U wrote in above?
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Its not necessary to flash 3.0.0.6. I dont know where you read that and are assuming it.

Please get this fact EXTREMELY CLEAR

For Sense / Android 2.2 ROMs -> You will have to use Clockworkmod 2.x ONLY

For Gingerbread ROMs -> You will have to use Clockworkmod 3.x or 4.x ONLY

Unless and otherwise specified.

DK Custom ROM is a Froyo 2.2.1 ROM, so it needs Clockworkmod 2.x
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Dude U just gave this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1156713 (look 2 posts above) and it says:
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Did you read the

"Or higher"

in that line? He just means that for that particular fix (Not for a Sense ROM. But, for his Sense Fix), you will need Clockworkmod 3.x or 4.x. He has only provided the link for those users who do not have Clockworkmod 3.x/4.x and are on 2.x
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Again U are confusing.... So what is it and the end??????? dam it. Why U are confusing ppl like that? o.O

I have clockwork 3.x since I flashed CM7 ... and I need know to flash Jokerdroid to see the difference between those 2 ROM's so I can choose one of them.

So if I understand I need to downgrad to 2.x before flashing roms and before fixing sense upgrade to 3.x? this is not make any sens at all...
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Ok, Since I am confusing you so much, I'll try and put forth my views to you for the last time. If you still dont get it, seek help elsewhere, since, apparently, I am confusing you fro this simple concept.

For a Sense

ROM

, you will need Clockworkmod 2.x. (In ROM, I mean JokerDroid, WildPuzzle, DK Custom ROM etc)

For the Sense

FIX

, (As is posted by rickywatt) you will need Clockworkmod 3.x or higher.

Did that clear your confusion? If not, sorry, I leave it to someone else to clear it up for you.
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Ok So I need to get a temporary clockwork 2.x first yes? As I looked I can do that from here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11798925&postcount=389 where it says:

So if I get my temporary CWM 2.x, I can flash Joker ROM and then from 2.x I flash CWM 3.x back right? Is that correct? and then flash the sense fix and reboot right? So if the CWM 2.x is only temporary, how can I go back to the CWM 3.x without flashing it again? Can U explain that to me please? Just right down here the procedure for flashing a sense ROM with the sense fix and switching CWM's.

Thx
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
The Clockworkmod 2.x (Which you get from ROM Manager), is temporary, and it doesn't touch your existing Clockworkmod 3.x which you installed after using Revolutionary. So, there is no need to flash 3.x after flashing Jokerdroid through 2.x

As you must know, after you install ROM Manager App, there are 2 ways of going to Recovery now

1) Open ROM Manager App, Select "Reboot into Recovery" -- This will take you to your temporary Clockworkmod 2.x.

2) In Cyanogenmod 7's Power Off Menu, when you select "Reboot", there is an option given to you, called "Recovery". If you select that, it will take you to your 3.x recovery.

Another way is to Turn off the phone, Power on in HBoot Mode, Navigate to Recovery and select it, this will again take you to your Clockworkmod 3.x

To sum up, only if you select "Reboot into Recovery" from the ROM Manager App, you will be taken to your temporary Clockworkmod 2.x. In all other cases, you will be taken to your Clockworkmod 3.x
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
Ah U should say that before : ). I will try with recovery from ROM Manager then.

But one question. I cannot flash sense fix when I am on 2.x CWM from ROM manager? ?
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
No, because the developer of the Sense Fix has designed it for compatibility with the new Clockworkmod (i.e.- 3.x or above).
[Wildfire General] Karthus:
So what I do need to flash first and how?
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Sense Fix can be flashed later. Since it will only fix the HTC Scenes and Setup Wizard. Rest all other functions of the ROM will work as normal.

So, you have to flash the ROM Zip file first. Then, once that is successfully over, you can flash the fix after that.
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
3xeno is a pro. Dude, you deserve a free HTC Sensation, or a moderator spot here on XDA. :p
[Wildfire General] anuraguni:
I agree with you smokzye
[Wildfire General] showlyshah:
Dudes i prefer cm7, ofcourse nightly. Coz they are feature rich than stable one. And more than any rom sense,stock,non- sense. The reasons are

Cm7 release frequency is much high than any rom out there. So always we will get new potentials of android.

Lol android is open source, so why should we stuck with limited functions of a manufacturerz rom( phone manufacturer) , dont it seem to be like we are using a Swiss knife only for cutting?

It suppot latest ext4, more speed, more stable,better partition .

It support oc, and a lot of stuffs for developer.

It is fast, ofcourse you should try various scripts.

More eye candy. Themes are out there.

Stable than sense, provided you know how to optimize it.

Free to install any thing out there. Any launcher,widget,flash supported, more customization are included.

Aosp- meanz you are in free waterz of mighty android, and not locked in graveyard's of manufactures.

Based on the max best android our device can have, and is frequently updating.

Theme,apks,fonts, bootlogo, keyboard, and virtualy every thing can be changed. So is it what we called as open source?

And why not sense:-

Have you ever noticed how much ram "sense home" sucks out of our phone? Lol take a look.

Have you seen 2.3 stock sense rom?

Have you ever thinked why htc put locked bootloader? And why no root access?

Have you noticed " with htc sense" written on your phones back body?

Dont you think sense is just a garnish that htc put just to make andy locked under their hood?

Hey sense is just a homescreen na? Or a launcher or a home. What ever may be, it just close when we enter the main menu( app dock), and reopens when we are in standby. Does it have any other functions that help us in while we work with app? Nop.

It is not every thing, its a gate, which consumes a large amount of ram, keeping all its ugly natures under a face makeup.

The best things i can found with stock rom are a good cam interface, a good keyboard, good gallery,nice contact storage and display. Little increase in battery life.

All these can be implemented on cm7 too. If you know how to.and ofcourse much more.
[Wildfire General] revan1993:
i think the new sense is really good, so i think using the new sense rom makes fun <3 :D
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
Well, i disagree, sense is not just a home to cover everything bad, in fact, sense is implemented in everything, evefything depends on everything with sense, why there isnt rosie launcher to install on other phones? It requires sense framework. I think htc sense is one good piece of software implemented in android as its main base. + internet browsing on a sense rom is much better than on any custom rom.
[Wildfire General] revan1993:
yeah smokzye,

i think the same about sense its workly done and looks nice so what against sense?! ever aosp roms is boring too guys ;)
[Wildfire General] Scratch0805:
Get out....... aosp boring?

If you put some effort into it you can make it beautiful and unique!

I've yet to see a sense rom that doesn't truly look like another.
[Wildfire General] kevin2516:
Sense users are the ones that aren't really bothered and don't go crazy theming their phones tbh. Aosp users are on drugs and smoke weed 24/7.
[Wildfire General] showlyshah:
Dude juz got high today, got some green grass. Truely indian, from the western ghats of india, grown in misty climate here.

Jus like asop, flying in dream, luck itz realy nice. And a lot of addictiveness, like any home screen,any player,galarey,and 2.3.5 andy. Jus love it.
[Wildfire General] revan1993:
paah smoking some green grass <3 faiL :D

so I think aosp is good and sense too ;) Everyone can choose his favourite :cool:
[Wildfire General] androidino95:
LOL. Andro druggies.. :)

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
[Wildfire General] Scratch0805:
Ehh... I'd have bricked my phone by now if I still smoked that s*#*, quit years ago when my little boy was born.

Still get hazy moments of inspiration from it though? Or is that stupidity?
[Wildfire General] revan1993:
so funny getting inspiration from it :D i'm waiting for ics's code coming out for the cm devs :D
[Desire General] salah_heart:
hello my desire is bricked

im still have fastboot

could any one help me to restore it with fastboot and sdk

bravo pvt1 ship s-on

hboot -0.93.0001

microp-051d

touch panel -synw0101

radio-4.06.00.02_2

aug 10 2010 17.52.18

i tried to flash recovery through fastboot

it gave me

12 signature verify fail

thanks
[Desire General] anassutti:
Hey I have kind of the same problem, I used to have the Golden memory then I change to Security OFF with AlphaRev, but then I mess up all cos my memory was failing and I have to format it, then I tryed to restore a backup and the phone just hung on boot. With the HTC logo,

I can access to the hboot and I got this.

Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.93.0001

Microp-051d

Touch Panel SYNW0101

Radio-5.11.05.27

Aug 10 2010,17:52:18

Alse I have a video on youtube "Dead HTC Desire" under my username I cannot post the link :(

I probably need to re do the golden memory but anyone have a clue?
[Desire General] festa20:
Wat is golden memory
[Desire General] davebugyi:
I think he means GoldCard.
[Desire General] salah_heart:
I tried the gold card using the tools but can't. Fix the proplem
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] socos25:
Not sure if anyone elses uses Yahoo mail, but The ugly purple and white thing it has going on is putrid.

I use it because it is simple and easy to use, and I don't have to configure anything to use it.

I would give all five of my daily thanks if someone does this :D
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orlzzt:
and one

+1 on the black/trans Yahoo Mail. I posted a request for black/trans Twitter in the "general" forum. The minimalists are loving their black themed apps!
[HTC Sensation] urahozer:
Hello all, i have had my HTC sensation 4G (on Bell) for just over a month and a few days ago i started losing my connection to the network intermittently. Super annoying. Anyways i tried deleting some recent apps, figured that might be the issue but nope didnt help. It happened about 3 days in a row until i finally did a Factory Reset on the phone. It worked fine for a bit and then began stopping its connection to the network. Anyways super frustrating, i read some forums about tunring ciphering on and off, i tried that didnt work... needless to say im chapped.

Sorry for the length, but basically wondering if anyone knows how to fix this as its to late to return the phone and i have read through similiar forums on other phones
[HTC Sensation] charronegro1971:
sorry to hear abt ur problem. i experienced the same thing but i think mine was triggered when i installed juice defender. it would turn off mobile data when the screen was off and when i went to use the phone, i didn't have a connection. i uninstalled the app and did a power cycle and that seemed to fix the problem after i went back into settings and checked the box to turn mobile data on.
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
This. The phone seems to have trouble (on the stock kernel at least) when switching data from wifi only to cell when cell is turned off. This happens to me when I use wifi calling. The solution I came up with was to connect to a wifi network then turn on mobile data in the quick settings manually. Works every time for me.

HTC really needs to fix this.
[HTC Sensation] eden1988:
Under mobile network in wireless settings, enable always-on mobile data.

This somehow fix my connection whereby it hampers with JD app by not turning on when it needs to.
[HTC Sensation] urahozer:
Thanks for the help guys. I did also recently install a "battery optimizer: in Droid Utilities or soemthing like that, although i did a factory reset. ill try and do a full battery cycle like you mentioned and see if that helps
[HTC Sensation] urahozer:
so the phone worked fine on the weekend, and even friday and i thought it was cause i stopped using a non "htc" charger and got rid of Android Utilities. but now its Tuesday again and like clockwork at 1pm it just stops connecting, if i reset it i get network for a few minutes and then boom out again. Very frustrating mid work day to be without my phone for hours on end. Dont know what to do.
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
Are you using WiFi at the time it goes out?
[HTC Sensation] urahozer:
No i havent been, not allowed to use private phones on the corporate wireless, but so far i havent found a problem with it switching between wi-fi and H+ while at home.

I have a feeling that Bell Canada may be updating the network or something in the area but they havent said anything both times i called and i asked. so who knows. Its just to much like clockwork for me to think it would be the phone, but who knows.
[HTC Sensation] urahozer:
So i believe i have this figured. I talked to tech support once again yesterday and i point blank asked if it was network problems he said no (3rd person from bell to tell me this) then reccomended i get a sim card change if that didnt work he said send the phone in for repair.

So i went to the downtown bell store talked to the girl, explained why i needed to replace a brand new sim, and she told me that it was because Bell doesnt have towers downtown they share the Telus towers, however because of network bottleneck bell users get less priority and thus i cant use my phone... Not only is this unnacceptable for a phone company to not provide service DOWNTOWN in a major city but having denied it multiple times forcing me to troubleshoot for hours and spend almost an hour talking to bell representatives...

NOT HAPPY. Bell - 5 in my books, lucky my contract is up in a few months and i can switch to telus where i will be able to get signal downtown...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmadabufarha:
I have two questions

The firs is how can I make my phone supports multi-touch ??

The second is how can i watch the videos with flash player ?:confused:
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nigi2010:
If your mobile has cypress digitizer you can have dualtouch..

Download skyfire or puffin browser