yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] Quintiliano:
I had the same problem when I bricked my Defy+ and tried to get it back. I don't really remember what was happening but I spent 4 hours trying to get it to work.

If I'm not wrong, you need to first open RSD Lite, then shut down the device, boot it up holding volume up and as soon as it's screen shows some life you're supposed to connect it to the PC (holding the power and volume up buttons, after connecting you can release them).

As I said, I "think" it was this way, I had the same problem and I forgot to note down how I done it. Would appreciate if you told us how you did it so I can actually note it down this time in case I end up bricking it again, lol.
[Defy General] vanloque:
Hello World :D

Saving the Defy worked ! It worked perfectly on Win7 x64 after installing RSD 5.7 and the moto drivers from one of the guides.

The phone is back to factory settings with the 2.3.6 rom and everything is fine.

So it seems clear there are some issues between RSDLite and Win8(.1) ... I'm glad I still have access to a Win7 pc somewhere, even if it's not at home !

Thanks for all your help and take care ! :)
[Defy General] zandr0:
Defy + Got ''bricked'' when flashed an Froyo SBF

Zephyrot,

''IIt's about DEFY + (mb526)'':cowboy:

I am really thankfull in advance for your very good guide.

I am starting now to really get in the forums of development and you gave some reasons to believe that its really possible to subvert the logic of private ownership of knowledge. And get into it.;)

Now, lets get into the issue, I hope you or another member could help me. Actually I just need an confirmation of the procedure I have to do, understand?

I am on this ''profile'' problem you quote on your work ''If you try to flash a lower ID version than the one already on your phone, you will just get a Black screen after booting or a screen telling you to flash an official rom.''

First: I´ve been looking for an solution for my problem exaustively on the internet; many forums, underround places, wikis, here on xda, etc.:silly:

And I found you guys here.:D

Second (Description of an issue): It´s seems kinda simple. I have this mb526 (DEFY+) and I did install a Froyo SBF version using a tutorai for mb525 green lens. I did it because I was a bit stupid. lol:cyclops:

I just flashed the my phone with RSD Lite 5.6 multiflash. The SBF name is JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_CEE. It looks like a Froyo version.

Now my phone just give an life signal when I plug it on computer with usb. :crying:

It does not go to bootload and flash mode.:crying:

It does not turn on.:crying:

When I tryed to install again the same SBF it accept but does not work later, of course.:rolleyes:

Third: I did read all your guide and I really learned a lot of stuff with it. But its too much for little time.

I am willing to ''revive'' my motofellow and I am afraid that I am not o pretty sure of what to do.

My phone get the famous black screen and the white light turn on when it connected to pc. :confused:

Then I CANNOT get it into Recovery Mode and either to Bootloader Mode.:confused:

HOW should I proceed?:eek:

I am so sorry if my question could be understanded on this guide. But even english is a bit new for me.... and an wide ignorance of high-tech stuff.:angel:

THANK YOU:good::good:
[Defy General] lotfystyle:
Hey

very usefull guide, thank you for it.
[Defy General] walidham:
Any hope to downgrade defy m525 red lens BL 7 to BL 6

There is any chnage to downgrade defy m525 red lens BL7 to BL6?

I have rooted it, and install SBF wich contains CM10.1, and after that i installed CM10.2 (work fine , only battery charger work only by PC)

Best regards
[Defy General] Lord_Flaya:
No, you can't downgrade from bl7 to bl6. This is due to the magnificent efuse with you can read more about in OP.
[Defy General] niilartey1:
Where can I download a custom recovery file for Motorola defy+ MB526
[Defy General] axel2230:
noob here. sbf links for defy's is down. :( any mirrors? I have a TMO USA defy that is on 2.1 eclair. I believe version 1. thanks in advance.
[Defy General] B2T:
SBF download links not working

Please help - I have bricked my Defy Plus so want to put stock rom in however the links to the SBFs on the first page no longer work - has anybody still got the SBF?
[Defy General] B2T:
Thanks to lesigois on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1595013&page=22

Defy now up and running after performing a modified macgyver fix.
[Defy General] pecuna:
Hi!

What ever custom rom I use on my Defy Plus and with a lot of different QR readers tried I have random autofocus activity from my camera while using the phone. Has anybody hit that issue too?
[Defy General] Evobeast:
Defy+ guide

[MENTION=1450043]Zephyrot[/MENTION] Erstmal vielen lieben Dank! Du bist wirklich der Hammer!

I have found a really nice guide on how to specifically install Kitkat on the Defy+ from scratch.

The only thing is is that its in German, I might try to translate it for here, I'm an xda noob though so I'm not really allowed to make a thread yet. This guide really helped me to secure the last steps after I read your beautifully comprehensive guide.

http://www.cpf.de/cm11-android-442-kitkat-motorola-defy/558/

Google chrome could probably translate it enough to get it.
[Defy General] Evobeast:
Stumbled on an even better guide right here
[Defy General] jmo707:
Thanks for the guides pals. The one you linked Evobeast is pretty up to date :good:
[Defy General] yogrt+:
Thank you!

Just got my first smartphone and it's a secondhand german Defy+

After reading this I should be able to root and flash it even on Linux!

So I will do that this weekend :)

Oh, I do know today in 2017 it's an old phone, but I wanted a small, waterproof and rugged one. This was the only option I could find and for calling, sms, email and offline maps it will be fine I reckon :)
[Defy General] andyman_187:
ok, so after doing some reading i found this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065798&page=35

can someone please confirm this for me? (this is one devs reply after all)

is it safe to simply re-flash full froyo SBF after installing CM7?

TIA!
[Defy General] wskelly:
This is a great guide. I rooted and installed CM7 on my wife's Defy while working here in Frankfurt Germany, the home country of the author. :-)

One thing that I think could use a little clarification is the part about the SBF. The instructions from Quarx are quite simple:

INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Flash froyo
2. Copy *.zip to sdcard
3. Reboot your device in BootMenu/ClockWork
4. WIPE (wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache partition)
5. Install the *zip
6. reboot

So, what if you already have the official Froyo update?

On my wife's phone that already got the official Froyo update, I rooted, installed 2nd init, wiped the phone, cleared cache and dalvik cache, and installed CM7. That's it. It is working fine here (other than the known camera issues).

I'm assuming then that what I've broken potentially is the ability to go back to Froyo?
[Defy General] slick69:
If I have this correct, to go back to Froyo, you just flash the same SBF as the version you came from. It puts the device back to stock, unrooting it in the process.
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
You only break your ability to go back when you flash Full SBFs of higher ANdroid Versions.

In your case, going to CM7 wont break anything since it is installed from a Nandroid Backup.

And the first step on that Guide to install CM7 is there just in case :) Sometimes people have modded/altered system files that could potentially break CM7, so its recommended to put it back to Stock Froyo before installing the Nandroidbackup.

But having a brand new phone is just like installing a SBF. To go back to stock, just install the corresponding full SBF and it will be just like Moto sold it to you :)
[Defy General] slick69:
Can you flash a Fixed SBF (say, to go from CM7 to MIUI or vice-versa) and have a pre-rooted phone? Any point of doing that? Or should I only flash a regular SBF?
[Defy General] wskelly:
No one will try out CM7 on the Defy and want to go back. It is that good. :)
[Defy General] ankit_harry1992:
i need to send my defy for warranty so i needed to downgrade from cm7 to stock froyo!

therefore, i wanna know will flashing full sbf remove everything such as root, 2ndinit etc??

and i just have to disable usb debugging before flashing full sbf or do i have to do something more?? plzz tell me all the necessary steps!
[Defy General] jhondoe399:
Very usefull information...Thank you:D
[Defy General] Necron8:
This is really great, I was getting confused with all those developer stuff roms and lots of technical words. Now I'm a bit more proficient on what to do :) Thanks!
[Defy General] wskelly:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1054447

To downgrade to Stock rom it is very simple:
1.Download RSD lite and Motorola usb drivers to flash SBF file.
2.Download Stock froyo SBF for your region(Search xda forum)
3.Check USB debugging on your phone and connect to the pc and wait until all motorola drivers install.
4.Open RSD lite(right click and open as a administrator). It will show connected. Now select the sbf file you located on the system and click start and wait till it completes 100% process. thats it. it will flash your phone to stock froyo and it will automatically restart and boot.
[Defy General] ObserverBG:
Froyo experience - Rooting

Given:

Defy, MB525, FW 2.2.2, Sys v. Moto_Version.34.179.2.MB525.Retail.en.CEE, Build no. JOREM_U3_3.4.2_179-2

Win7, 64-bit, drivers from the current Motorola Update Manager/ Motorola Software Update

SuperOneClick from http://shortfuse.org v.2.1.1

Had to combine the guide from the Honorable Zephyrot and

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-root-motorola-defy-with-superoneclick/

as

​

How to Root:

Get SuperOneClickRoot

Get and Install Motorola Drivers [32bits] [64bits]

Turn USB Debugging ON (Settings -> Applications -> Development on your Defy)

Connect your Defy to the PC

Click on Root

Let it work, then it will ask if you want to install BusyBox, hit YES.

Produced:

:confused: "Huston, Huston - Rooting device...-Step 4 could not complete!" :confused:

7. After it finished it will ask to make a test, click cancel and just Reboot your Defy.

8. Done, Defy rooted
​

My 1st. wild guess is the Defy's bootloader drivers were not installed prior the failed attempt (Step 3 in addictivetips.com).

2nd. wild guess is the flipping of the USB debugging, as listed in Steps 6 and 9 in addictivetips.com.

The compilation of the two checklists produced the wonder and my Defy is rooted now :D
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
That's definitely a problem with drivers on the PC not being ready when Superneclick attemps to Root the phone.

Just reboot the PC and it should be ready to go. Going to add that information on the next guide update.

I've had to use my own guide to do some stuff, including rooting and I can guarantee you it works lol
[Defy General] Kenjo36:
Awesome ! Thx !
[Defy General] jebrew:
Gingerbread full SBF unhappiness

Okay, so I installed a full Gingerbread SBF, big oops. I've tried the downgrade process and I get through step 9. Everything is great, but I'm not a big fan of the ROM I end up with, so I want to put CM7 on there.

Root works fine, reboot goes smooth.

Install 2nd init, try to reboot -> infinite reboot loop with the red Motorola logo...:confused:

try again, must've missed something. Same result.

Is anyone else having this issue? Has anyone 'downgraded' from a full GB rom to CM7? If so, what did you do that I didn't?
[Defy General] slick69:
You didn't use a Fixed SBF? If not, why not?
[Defy General] jebrew:
tl;dr: I wasn't paying attention and made some bad choices...help...

Had CM7 on the phone and realized that I couldn't get 3g...let it slide for a few weeks, but got annoyed. Decided to just flash to a stock US rom to get 3g back and deal with it later (was busy). Flashed US 3.4.2-107 (a 2.2.1 rom) figuring if it came up and still wouldn't connect, I could just turn it in under warranty. Flash didn't work, just got the black screen...tried again, no luck. Needed to get the phone up and running quickly, so I (stupidly) skimmed threads about 2.3.4 roms (here's where real stupid begins). Deciding that I'd somehow made it so I couldn't downgrade, I went ahead and picked a 2.3.4 rom and just flashed that (lo and behold, it was 4.5.1_128 before they had downgrade instructions). Rom 'worked' but I noticed I couldn't root...no biggie, basic functionality was there (though still on edge). Couple days go by and I've got a bit of free time again, read things properly and realized that I'm an idiot and now can't get back to CM.

Any help?
[Defy General] jebrew:
Finally figured it out

Okay, I finally got my phone back on CM7. If anyone is having the same issues I had, here's the full rundown of what I did:

1. Follow the downgrade guide on the first page. At this point you should be on 2.2.2 CEE

2. Root. SuperOneClick 1.9.5 works just fine.

3. Install SystemRecovery from GoAPK. If you install 2nd init, you'll just get into a boot loop and have to start over.

4. Reboot to recovery. Do a factory wipe, then do the cache wipe (feels redundant, but for some reason it's necessary).

5. Install CM7 and gapps zip files. DO NOT wipe again, you'll just go back to 2.2.2 CEE (if you accidentally do this, you can pick up again from step 3).

6. ???

7. profit!

Don't know if this will help anyone out or if I'm the only one that thought it was difficult to figure out that you need to use 2nd init to downgrade and GoAPK to move to CM7, but there it is...most likely for my own future reference.
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
Awesome information, thank you very much.

This will definitely be added to the next update I'm preparing for the guide.

Gesendet von meinem CM7 Defy
[Defy General] motoroi:
thanks... cool..!
[Defy General] Acceleracer:
Awesome Guide ! Helped me much preparing a defy for MotoGinger..
[Defy General] prem.anchan:
Battery Problem after CM 7 RC1.5

Dear Frnds,

After intsalling cm7 rc 1.5 .. i noticed that my phones gets charged only till 95 percent.. i had wiped battery stats before installing the update.. kindly help..
[Defy General] gusnd:
I tried to install the namdroid informed but it informs the signature verification failed. Any other namdroid to test with?
[Defy General] BBOXPT:
Great guide, but there's still something i dont quite understand. :\

FOr instance, i just installed MIUI through the ROM in the official website.

How do I know if it's a rom that changes the "version number" (the non-dowgradeable one) or not?
[Defy General] slick69:
Only official Motorola SBF roms can change your version number, not zip roms.
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
Well, the guide has been updated with new info and stuff that has appeared in the thread :)

Try to take out the battery for 2-5 minutes, then charge again with phone turned off.
[Defy General] Piaer:
Will I loose 2nd init after downgrading CM7 to Froyo?
[Defy General] ursoouindio:
Hey, which Fixed SBF to get in order to use CM7 or MIUI?

I haven't seen any clear recommendations of Fixed SBFs, just Full ones...

Thanks
[Defy General] tegezan:
with froyo full sbf... yes you will loose 2ndinit..
[Defy General] minomarimat:
Hi!

So I've been studying modding to CM7 thoroughly. I don't want to mess up my phone (who does, right? LOL). If I install CM7, does it automatically come with Gingerbread 2.3.4?
[Defy General] berthur:
If u use the latest RC: 1.5 it comes with android 2.3.5
[Defy General] minomarimat:
Ok. Any problems with this yet?

Oh, and by the way. Currently I am on Froyo 2.2. SEA Version. Does this matter? Can I install CM7 right away?
[Defy General] cupojoe:
sooooooo my 2nd init recovery isn't deleting anything

or im getting crazy errors for no reason/ cm7 / miui are unusable for me

advice? i cannot figure out how to wipe my phone any other way?
[Defy General] gameputra:
My Defy came with SBF JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7. I have installed RC 1.5 successfully (Thanks to this guide Zephyrot). But I'm very new to modding. I bought my Defy a week back, in India. What I am confused with is:

1. Will I be able to downgrade or revert everything back to as it was out of the box? I have taken a nandriod back up of my cell before modding.

2. I installed CM7 over my stock android.....I didn't flash or anything. Will this be a problem? Is it necessary to use a fixed SBF?
[Defy General] bra2006:
Awesome

Can't thank you enough for this guide. Even after research quite a bit into this ROM thing I didn't find it anywhere an explanation about Fixed SBFs. Keep up the good work.
[Defy General] cupojoe:
ok got it working again, and before i ruin my phone again i have a few questions

do i need to install using the http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875233 recovery found here ?

i'm trying to install MIUI as i find that its generally more stable than CM7
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
That is an old recovery used only for people who installed a full Gingerbread SBF and cant install CM7 after following the steps to go back to Froyo.

No idea how it works with MIUI :(
[Defy General] cupojoe:
Guess i'll just give it a go! haha
[Defy General] minomarimat:
Alright, so I was almost ready to install CM7 on my Defy, when I decided to read through this guide again (well, I was reading it for the nth time already just to be sure that I knew what I was about to do), when I read the part where it was suggested to do a full wipe to fix the bug on the Froyo update. So I did the wipe, and voila! Froyo running well. I thought it would be better to observe this one for a few days first. As long as Froyo's running nice and stable, then I'd stick with it until the warranty expires.

That being said, THANK YOU FOR THIS GUIDE. This is so perfect for Defy users worldwide.

Cheers. :)
[Defy General] thiagobraga:
very useful

tks man... very useful...

I'm with 2.3.5 on my phone, and any call i receive or make the screen goes black e stays that way.

Going back to 2.3.4, and i expect it get fixed soon :D

Awesome ROM by the way.
[Defy General] minomarimat:
er... Day three after full wipe, and phone's SLOWLY getting a bit of lag. :(
[Defy General] laokaikiller:
i want to know how to install MIUI, now got it, thanks
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
Must be an app you installed man, I got over 200 Apps installed for every imaginable thing haha, Live-Wallpaper and the phone runs Smooth~
[Defy General] tom11:
defy plus

does anyone know when the defy plus will be released?
[Defy General] zopeon:
thanks

Thanks for the lovely info and nice summary
[Defy General] minomarimat:
I dunno dude, I've only installed a few apps. Well now it's running smooth, I guess I was just a bit paranoid haha. But it did lag a bit a couple of times. Here's what I've installed so far:

-Go Launcher Ex, iPhone theme (I find this the cleanest theme IMHO)

-3d gallery

3d digital weather

clockr

-angry birds seasons

lightbox

defy photo

dolphin browser hd

-flashlight

fluffy birds free

funny facts

inotia 3

juice defender ultimate

-mouse

mx mayhem lite

mx video player

penguin flying

-push ups

quadrant standard

quick office

racing moto

-sit ups

speedtest

syncmypix

tapfish

-unblock me free

vaulty free

xda app

zedge

so that's my list. Sorry for the long post. Is there any app in my list that might be causing the lag? Thanks! :)
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
Only app I see there that could cause issues is Zedge if you set it to automatically change your Background every XX amount of time. Other than that seems normal ^^
[Defy General] cupojoe:
can i go from MIUI to cm7 1.5?

miui is giving me all kinds of errors..
[Defy General] minomarimat:
Nah, that won't be a problem, I've set it to NEVER option. :)

Thanks!
[Defy General] pravarth:
goto custom recovery, wipe data, cache. Then install cm7 zip from sd card. wipe cache and dalvik cache.

Make a nandroid backup so you can go back if anything goes wrong
[Defy General] 5starfish:
i just wanna say thank you for this wonderful thread, it really helps a lot
[Defy General] Arathon:
Hi, i have a problem in backing my system, first the latest version of cwm doesn't work for defy,what i must do?

My sbf is jorem u3-3.4.2-177-5, with blur and branded (vodafone), and i haven't found it anywhere only the nordic one with jrdnem,so for restoring the nandroid backup from miui or cm7 what sbf i must use or i can directly recover it?

Thanks in advance for the answer.
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
Both questions are answered in the guide

1) CM7, MIUI, Various Custom Roms and going back to Stock.

To downgrade from any of these Roms all you need to do is install a Full Stock SBF (remember to check CG Versions!) and done, phone back to Stock.

more information on the matter, Common Problems Questions section:

I installed a Full SBF/installed CM7/other Android version and need my warranty:

Full Stock SBFs will put your phone to the state Motorola sells that Android Version. If you install the same SBF you had, it will be like new.

2) CM7, MIUI, Various Custom Roms and going back to Stock.

There is no way to flash a full SBF with CM7 or another rom. What is being done in these cases, is just use a base Android, be it CEE, Localized EU, Éclair, whatever.

Quarx recommends using JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-11_BLUR_SIGN (not anymore, old) 3.4.2-179 CEE Deblur SBF. But this is not NEEDED; I’m running CM7 with German 3.4.2.177-3 and is running perfectly.
[Defy General] ursoouindio:
I'm running Android 2.2.1, version number 3.4.2-107_JDNL-9.

How can I know if it is enough or why it would be needed to use other Full SBF?

It is an interesting thing to avoid flashing Full SBFs, I think.
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
Because some Roms have different files, drivers, and who knows what else, that sometimes doesn't work as expected on CM7.

Best way to know if your Froyo is enough is testing it out. :-)

Gesendet von meinem CM7 Defy
[Defy General] ursoouindio:
hmm, I see.

That is somewhat not clear (at least for me), what is expected from this other ROM on which CM7 or any other custom ROM is installed over.

There is a lot of people getting different behaviors and bugs with the same custom ROMs that I wonder if it wouldn't be related to this other ROM. But I dont really know how they relate in practice.
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
As I explained in the guide, is "not yet" possible to install custom ROMs packed in a SBF cause only Motorola can actually sign them.

People behind CM7 and customs ROMs have to use A LOT of tricks to be able to install them, one of them, is that the phone must have certain Froyo base, since the memory cant be reformated, the kernel can not be changed and so on... CM7 is currently being Developed using an specific Froyo base, on which the Dev runs CM7 perfectly.

What is missing or what changes from one or another, no idea, there are different kernels, drivers, and so many ROM variations its almost impossible to know what changed.

There are so many issues with any rom cause people do way too many things nowadays with their phones, and even more with rooted phones. So you can not expect to break stuff.

I for one havent had any of the most seen issues in the forum, and when I had issues its cause I broke something :)
[Defy General] ursoouindio:
Thanks again, Zephyrot!

I guess it is best to use the recommended SBF than going with something potentially inappropriate.

And just to clear my mind, if I flash the 3.4.2-179 CEE Deblur SBF, would I still be able to return to my factory Android 2.2.1 by SBF flashing or it would be on lower CG version?
[Defy General] Zephyrot:
No problem :)

Im using German version, 3.4.177-3 as base and is working perfectly, so its worth a shot with yours :)

And yeah you can flash back, as long as what you flash is 3.4.2.XXXXXX
[Defy General] ruy_vilela:
Public Utility!!!
[Defy General] #L#:
quite helpful... just like the first gate to "open" the Defy's great potential
[Defy General] v2dare:
what is difference between upgrading with CMW mod and RSDLite. what i understood is RSDlite is done with the help of PC while CMW use only phone .... which one has more advantage ???