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[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
They can monitor your mobile data, yes.

Doesn't mean there is someone sitting there monitoring all 49 million subscribers.

I'm not saying it's "Okay" All I'm saying is it's more likely that the file being shared was hosted by a company looking for people that steal.
[EVO 4G General] culua:
Ooo ****! I been watching porn on my android they know what I'm doing!
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I average more than that a month for over a year now, never got a single warning. There is obviously more to this story....
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
We all know. :D
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
For those saying its the p2p bs there torrent programs for android
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Not saying it is directly the p2p but its likely the indirect cause.

Wife downloaded a file, which was hosted by one of these companies, which sent a letter to sprint warning of lawsuit.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Nice gotta be careful with torrents and know the insides lol
[EVO 4G General] infallibleapex:
Just cause there are torrent apps for android doesn't make it ok to do all the music and movies you want... like was said above, it was probably specific songs or whatever that were tagged for monitoring. The issues usually arise from people who seed the files, not download.. however I have been told both can cause you to be flagged. I personally don't share/seed and I have never gotten a notice. Although I don't use my phone for it either...

sent from my supersonic evo .:CM7:.
[EVO 4G General] dsf3g:
Most likely, the only thing they monitor constantly is data usage. Once you pass a certain threshhold and are not paying for tether they probably inspect your data usage to determine whether you are tethering in violation of contract. If they see stuff like Microsoft Updates and such in your download stream there's a pretty good chance you are.
[EVO 4G General] playya:
First off this is funny as hell...Secondly making you pay for something you already have just because aint right. I know you Johnny doo-gooders look at it as stealing but honestly you want me to pay for internet that I am already paying for again. I know I know its tethering and if you believe that then you have successfully bought into their concept.

@OP - Your friends over at PDAnet have come up with a way to mask your internet sharing experience so that your Internet Provider wont know. Check that out and also 4g I believe they are not checking for excessive data usage at all... I could be wrong but check out PDANET.

Good Luck
[EVO 4G General] jessejames111981:
I got a letter warning first then 2 days later a verbal call warning. I PAY FOR A HOT SPOT!!!

Sprint is doing false advertisement. Heavy data users are attracted to sprint due to the apparent unlimited data plan but..... SPRINT DOES NOT HAVE UNLIMITED DATA.
[EVO 4G General] jessejames111981:
they do check 4g. I rarely use 3g
[EVO 4G General] hercules rockefeller:
I've been streaming radio at work all month, and using 3G exclusively (for all my data, not just radio, but web browsing, downloading a couple of roms, background data, etc.), just to see how much I could actually use in a month. Right now I'm 4 days from the end of my bill cycle and I'm at 2.56 GB.

And as for the question about unlimited 3G / 4G - both are unlimited, but keep in mind the telecom definition of unlimited is not absolute. Every telecom company has provisions that govern "unlimited" access. I'm sure if you were using your local landline phone 24x7x365 the local telco would do something sooner or later, even though that's a service we've all taken for granted as unlimited since before I was born. 3G costs more than 4G due to factors such as roaming and bandwidth concerns, which is why Sprint enforces some limits on it's unlimited 3G access that it doesn't for 4G.

That said, there's got to be more to this story, IMO. In the past sprint has sent letters to customers who are using more than a certain amount in data roaming, or who are roaming more than they're on the Sprint network. But I've never heard of outbound calls, nor have I heard of Sprint threatening to cancel users over 3G usage on the Sprint Network, regardless of how the data is used. This doesn't make sense to me (again, IMO).
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
I also agree I have used tons of data I do think there is always more to the story lol
[EVO 4G General] nickelghandi:
Agreed. The tether is probably okay for basic web browsing and surfing, but to be downloading music and who knows what else over the 3G connection is just wrong. Use your ISP that you have at home and help us keep our unlimited data.
[EVO 4G General] dills2214:
OK, kind of a pointless reply here, so fair warning if you read on.

Can people stop saying "illegal tethering"? It drives me nuts. There isn't anying illegal about tethering. It has nothing to due with law. It is against the terms of our contract and sprint can terminate that contract because of it. But, it has nothing to do with being "illegal". Please stop, I beg you.
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Stealing is not against the law? So if you found a way to hack gas pumps to give you free gas that isn't illegal?
[EVO 4G General] dills2214:
I would love to see sprint bring someone to court on with a charge of stealing for installing a market app and using that app to view a website on their laptop. Hilarious. You are comparing using a service against terms to actually stealing material goods. Bravo.
[EVO 4G General] dills2214:
I am in full agreement that Unlimited service should not be abused. People like the OP should get removed, I feel no remorse for them.

It is people like this that I have about a 300kbps download and a 50-100kbps upload. Just garbage, but that still doesn't make it illegal.
[EVO 4G General] egnin1:
And this is why we will soon be capped! Also we will soon be like At&t and the rest... We will be paying $20 to $30 a month for 2gigs soon on top of our bill.. I have 3 phones on Sprint family plan.. And i have all 3 on 4g and we use total 3gigs or less a month. and that is also hooking up to a laptop out and about...
[EVO 4G General] dills2214:
Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but I agree. I don't think sprints network can handle unlimited plans much longer. If they cap it at 3-5gb and in doing so, speeds increase, I would be happy. I consider myself a pretty heavy user and I don't think I've ever gone over 2gb.
[EVO 4G General] UndeadCircus:
You should probably understand english words a little better before telling people their usage of a term is incorrect.

il·le·gal   /ɪˈligəl/

adjective

1. forbidden by law or statute.

2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.
[EVO 4G General] pho75:
It's sheeple like you that every giant corporation loves. If your connection is slow, guess who's fault is it? I'll give you a few seconds to think...... It's Sprint's! Not the OP, not me, not the guy watching porn several messages up. It's Sprint's fault for having a network that's not capable of handling the traffic. It's Sprint's fault for advertising unlimited data. It's Sprint's fault for not planning for the increase in data use. Do you expect customers to get unlimited plans to only browse forums? Even if they pay the tethering fee, do you think your speed will magically increase? Come on now, place your anger where it should be... at the company you purchased the service from.
[EVO 4G General] culua:
I like pho! Yes your right.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You have no idea what you're talking about, thank you for proving it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=922658

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=822664

There are plenty more but I'm not gonna sit here all day. I could come up with actual links to prove it but these two threads showing people's usage should be enough for most.

If you know what you're talking about, please, feel free to spread your knowledge around.

Conversely [and this applies to you especially] if you don't know what you're talking about, feel free to keep it to yourself.
[EVO 4G General] packattack12:
Not if you have some IP blockers set up :)
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
I expect people to be reasonable and not steal tethering support from Sprint, use it to download torrent traffic, and then come to the forums looking for sympathy because they got caught doing something that negatively impacts me.
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Wow I notice a lot of people on here with the whatever it says on paper is what I do attitude. I guess you are stuck inside that box and its sad. I agree that we may get caught up in the throttling scandals going on now one day but hopefully not. I just can't believe that people would feel its right to pay for something you are using anyways. They have made the phones to act like mini laptops, we hack browsers or download new ones from the web to view in full webpage format. Sorry I guess you guys only look at the mobile version of every site as well.

Come on people really really... The one link from above show someone using 13gigs for the month - what do you think they used it for...It should not matter what they used it for because THEY PAID FOR INTERNET... These companies find ways to make us pay more and everyone just hops on board... To those feeling its not right no problem but I hope you do everything by the book and I mean everything if not you my friend are a hypocrite... Sorry just how I feel, we have more important things to cry over than others using what they pay for already.. no matter how it gets to you....If it were illegal then PDAnet would not have the numbers they have on downloads...
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
You think it's sad that people are willing to pay for the services that they get from a company and not just steal what they want to their heart's content? Matty would be the first to tell you that I am no saint when it comes to Sprint, but I respect them enough not to blatantly steal services that they require I pay for and then come to the forums when I get caught and ***** and moan that they're liars and thieves. That, brother, is what's sad in my opinion.

I hope not too, but it becomes even more likely when people abuse the network and steal services that Sprint charges for, whether you agree with their pricing policy or not.

Regardless of whether you feel it's right or not, this is their pricing model. If you disagree with it, the right way to show that is to either not pay for it specifically or to find a competitor who doesn't charge for it and use them. Good luck with that.

Stealing what you want because you don't feel it's right to charge for it doesn't make you some kind of anti-hero rebel. It just makes you a thief.

Justify it to yourself all you want, but don't drag the rest of us down with you. If you want to steal services from Sprint, I really don't care aside from the fact that you're kind of a douche. What I do care about is doing something illegal, getting caught and suffering consequences, and then looking for sympathy over it. That's pathetic.
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Hahahahaha love the holy than thief forum members and you right its just how I feel and probably a few thousand more people looking g at the tether app downloads. Its ok I am not asking you to follow me I just hope your apparent saintly attitudes get carried on in everything you do. It do t matter what a company tells you I guess your just a follower.... but to follow is your choice. NO disrespect just have an issue with paying for something your already using because a company found away to make some money off of you. Not sure if you know this but when Evolution was first released hotspots was free and its naturally free thru Android... Sprint crippled it

Debating is so much fun... that's all this is guys don't read into it anymore and get crazy...Let me hear your thoughts good or bad

Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Quick one remember when using your browser in desktop mode you are stealing extra bandwidth since your browser is meant to see the mobile version of pages with less text and obviously less kilobytes will be used....too much? Lol

Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dude, how are you going to try to compare that with this situation?

Ridiculous
[EVO 4G General] dottat:
this thread needs locked already....
[EVO 4G General] playya:
tough guy relax it was making light of the situation since everyone was getting all crazy but honestly using the web version when you tether is actually how they generally know you are tethering since page site is different.. But relax guy get a drink or whatever it is for you to relax..

HAHAHAHA... someone is getting frustrated...
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
I agree that I do already pay for internet why pay twice and it is sheepish to just blindlydo it and not ask yourself why am I paying for it twice. Now as max said I believe don't steal then come looking for a pity party. Also why is it once every 2 to 3 months someone makes a new thread about this if they saw the past threads we wouldn't rehash these debates pretty pointless yes? Mods need to lock this or everyone needs to let it fall
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
They don't have to take you to court. They can simply terminate your contract or bill you for the cost of the feature you hacked to get for free.
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Well said on all counts.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
I'm no saint and I never claimed to be. I just think it's stupid to steal something from a company while at the same time abusing their network with illegal downloads and when you get caught publicly ***** about it expecting to get sympathy. That's the crux of my irritation.

However, I'll take it a step further and say that I like Sprint. I think it's a good company with good people working for it. I like their prices and the goods and services they provide me. And I want that to continue. But it's not going to if douchebags keeps stealing from them and justifying it with thin arguments about "sticking it to the man" or platitudes like "I already pay for internet!". You know what you're doing is wrong, and even if you refuse to stop doing it, at least stop flaunting it out in the open like it's some badge of honor. You're a thief. Accept it and move on, and stop trying to play the part of some anti-authoritarian rebel. Sprint is not the evil empire of the mobile world; they're the best we've got right now and you're not doing us any favors.

That's not just for playya; that's for all of you who take this attitude. Live with it.
[EVO 4G General] hcubed3:
I honestly RAPE my 4G streaming Netflix and HBO Go, Im not sure of how much data I have used on it, but I know I have watched the entire series of Avatar and Avengers and I have not heard 1 peep from them. It really sounds like the issue is that she is tethering illegally and using that much data.

Honestly if you are going to use it like that, you probably should just pay for the hotspot subscription.

Im sure CASUAL usage on illegally gained hotspot access would go unnoticed.

Good luck to you though!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Thank you!

Bravo!

Especially the bold part of the post.
[EVO 4G General] InfectedMushroom:
4G is unlimited...and not even owned by Sprint. So they can't rag on you for using a lot.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Using p2p software like that is a explicitly mentioned in your contract with Sprint and tethering on top of it is the icing on the cake. The only way you could make them give you the boot faster is if you do all this while roaming on Verizon's towers.

Maybe you should read, or just glance through, contracts a little bit better before signing them.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Scary how many people don't.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Depends on what it is if I read it already signed my life away once for four yrs. most contract stuff is common sense on what is and isnt aloud. imo and deff should be for phones if you have ever signed any contract for a phone, even home phone or a internet contract.

Edited for dirty.
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
I use about 7-8gigs a month no tethering and no warning for me so something is not right with these stories of we are going to cancel you for excessive data
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Holy run on sentence.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Yeah yea dirty I know I almost always do that lol

Edited it for you happy
[EVO 4G General] flipper12:
I agree. More than likely, the OP didn't add that all the data his wife used was while she was ROAMING or something.
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Thanks for clearing that up....Now I am not flaunting anything just debating in this thread. Apparently you say you are no saint which means you do do somethings that may not be right. So why is it ok for you to talk about those in here who feel what they are doing is ok. My friend in my opinion unless you are clean across the board please refrain from talking bad about others.

It is Sprints choice to ask you to pay for a service you already paying for and its the users choice to decide if they want to pay for it. Same way we decided to root and make changes to our phone. Funny we are in XDA probably the home of hacking for our devices...

Nobody said Sprint is an evil empire but honestly do you know how much it really cost to per customer for phone service. Boost and Virgin both piggy back off of Sprint and you have $50 Unlimited plans there. How do we know they are not already ripping us off. All I do is bring up points but as long as you and the goodie tooshoes(a/k/a Mother Theresa) of the world and me and the "douchebags" - (great word) keep this up there will always be balance in the Universe. Once again I have no beef with Sprint nor did I say I was tethering I just was making points on how I see things

On a side note some of you guys take yourself waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too serious...
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
And of course (to no one's surprise) you learn nothing from what he said.

This thread needs a lock.
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
On a side note some people just don't get it.
[EVO 4G General] playya:
OK but don't get what?
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Lol... Now that's what I am talking about...
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Really... surprising I thought something more intelligent was going to come from you (doo-gooder and all). It's ok like I said before waaaay to serious but its ok...

Sorry some of you just don't get it....
[EVO 4G General] infamousteeboy:
+1 Agreed

Sent from my Vanilla Ice Cream Evo2.3.3 *ROOTED*
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Exactly
[EVO 4G General] droiddawg:
Perhaps she was roaming alot? I used 10 gigs last month, 6 gigs the month before that and 5 gigs before that. I mildly wireless tether, use adownloader, echoesofthebay for mp3 downloading, netflix, Pandora and sirius. I have yet to hear anything bad. I'm guessing she was roaming on Verizon because I've read on here that if you roam in excess of 300mb then Sprint will starting stamping envelopes with nastygrams.

Be careful.

sent from my 7/23 iNfEcTeD EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Haha Good one and my bad for I guess not getting it. My bad again for expecting you to explain your statement in a forum.... you got me good...

LOL - Really! nah Really?
[EVO 4G General] Hypeo:
+1

wireless tether was not ever ment to replace your Home ISP. You can't complaint because you are breaking your service contract terms. If you want to tether all that much, buy the service.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
No one is a saint, but there are black and whites in this world morally-speaking or, if you don't want to get that deep, there are laws by which our society as a whole has chosen to conduct itself by, and stealing is aganst that law. If I can't say that you're wrong to steal then there are no absolutes in this world and our society will cease to to function as the foundation of civilization is chipped away and we all become anarchists out for only ourselves. I know that sounds overly dramatic in this case, but when people become desensitized to stealing "because Evil Company X can afford it" or what-have-you, it changes the way our society functions on a grand scale. You can see th evidence of this mentality all way up to our elected representatives nowadays.

Sounds good to some, I guess. I have a four-year-old daughter and I'd like this to still be a nice country when she's an adult so she can enjoy the luxuries I have.

What's your point? Everything we do involves choices. Every decision has consequences. Yes, of course you can choose to steal. Just because you have that choice doesn't mean that it's automatically okay to do it. I could choose to drive my car down the sidewalk downtown to get around traffic lights, mowing down pedestrians while I do it in service to my convenience. Just because the choice is presented doesn't make every action justified.

The consequences may be radically different, but basics are still the same; there is a right and wrong.

If you want to live your life in a gray haze of moral ambiguity where every action is justifiable go ahead. I have said again and again that if you're going to do use wireless tethering without pay Sprint for it, just don't come crying to me expecting a sympathetic ear when you get caught and suffer the consequences. And you sure as hell had better not come into these forums *****ing when Sprint implements bandwidth caps or other forms of traffic manipulation.

You can come up with a million reasons to justify just about anything, but I just come back to the same basic principle: stealing is wrong.

I'm not accusing you of anything, but if you're going to play devil's advocate, be prepared for people to see the devil in you. As for taking this too seriously, you're the one who chose to engage in the debate.
[EVO 4G General] flipper12:
The one thing I find so FUNNY about this thread...

... is that the OP has not posted any responses whatsoever to anyone's posts.

Considering that there appear to be two differing opinions, I thought he'd at least chime in and join the discussion. But nooo....., he fired the first shot and than all but disappeared. Kinda funny if you ask me.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Yeah, this is all one epic troll thread. Oh well. ;)
[EVO 4G General] Hypeo:
Good info to pass on, but don't get mad if you get caught doing something you are not supposed too..
[EVO 4G General] infamousteeboy:
Sorry if this is off topic but I'm stoked

Bro some noob off my block he says he bricked his evo but I asked does it turn on at all he's like yeah but I can't call or text or anything...I'm thinking his phone isn't bricked completely he's just a dummy he's selling it for 50 bucks you think its bricked?

Sent from my Vanilla Ice Cream evO²·³·³ *ROOTED*
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
It could mean it has a bad ESN. Check that before you buy.
[EVO 4G General] infamousteeboy:
Alright! will it still be able to be rooted?

Sent from my Vanilla Ice Cream evO²·³·³ *ROOTED*
[EVO 4G General] flipper12:
Agree. Ask him to provide you the ESN and call Sprint to have them check. The relevant numbers should be right underneath the battery.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
If it has a bad ESN then it's pretty much useless as a phone.