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[Galaxy S II General] jrkitching:
No, it's like going into a supermarket and saying "Hey, this premium brand of cottage cheese sure is expensive. Is it worth the money?"

To someone unfamiliar with the S2 & about to buy a new phone, it's a reasonable question. Thankfully, I can put my hand on my heart & say "Yes, definitely."

It's unusual in the highly-competitive world of consumer electronics for one product to stand head & shoulders above the rest - but the S2 most certainly does, which is why it consistently gets the No 1 spot in reviews. I waited a long time for there to be a clear market leader before buying a new phone, and I'm sure glad I waited for this one.
[Galaxy S II General] onbacardi:
its everything over priced this day!

for example takes smokes! what about petrol!!! and the list goes on n oooon
[Galaxy S II General] biffsmash:
I'd say that considering on a contract you will pay well over the odds over the course of the contract for the phone, the outright price is well worth it for what you get.

The contract length and price is a little over the top, but is worth it to get such an excellent phone.

I have bought laptops that perform worse than this phone in day to day use and cost a lot more, so in all seriousness, it is well worth it, IF you can afford it :D

/opinion :D
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Mine was one of the first batch sold in the UK and has been literally problem free. Sorry yours doesn't meet your expectations. Because so many people think it's worth its price you could probably sell yours for close to what you paid for it. Then you could lose that ridiculous signature.
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
+1

10 chars.
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
No more long contracts for me i bought mine outright
[Galaxy S II General] freeze888:
Worth it!

-=10 char=-
[Galaxy S II General] zabihjan:
i bought mine £399 sim free

i dont think at all that it is overpriced

it is a beast and way better than any other phone i have ever used
[Galaxy S II General] rocketpaul:
I know right, its great not being bound down to 2 year contracts.

399 was a very good price, I dont think its so cheap now though.
[Galaxy S II General] xX_o2_Xx:
definatly is worth the money. apple charge £600 for their iphones which are no where near as good as the samsung in terms of hardware/

you're paying for the retarded logo on the back
[Galaxy S II General] holyguyz:
I bought it in UK at one of the wellknown retailer shop. Unfortunately I got the faulty again at the 5th exchanged unit. Is this a coincident or a bad luck? I'm already dxmn not happy with my SGS2. Now at service center, still no news yet. Not even really use my phone since bought it a month ago. :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] jlevy73:
Probably just bad luck. Most people are very happy with their device. I didn't get the first batch as you did, but I haven't had one issue.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
Funny how the magical number 5 seems to come up with people who claim to have problem with their cell. Samsung has a DOA exchange policy, so you could've just exchanged your unit for a different one once you found it was faulty. No repair required.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Someone is gonna tell you that a 5th exchange is not remotely or even statistically possible due to 6 million phones sold yada yada yada, Im on my 3rd phone right now and I just went through another 4 defective phones at the service center @_@ I guess im just making this up.

Yes most will be happy, but that doesnt mean defects dont exist right? even if its just 10 out of 6M phones sold.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
Hey now... Didn't you claim that you went through boxes and boxes of units and you were on your 10th one or so? Now it's suddenly 3?

/edit:

YOU SIR ARE A LIAR!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16281802&postcount=184

Liar liar, ass on fire!

No need to make such a big fuss about it then is there? If it's just 10 then those 10 people can return their handsets as DOA and exchange them. I don't see why "some" people (and if you shift throught the threads you'll really see that it's just a a hand full and the same people over and over) have the need to whine and ***** about some minor issues in every thread they get their hands on.
[Galaxy S II General] holyguyz:
Then i believe this "wellknown" retailer shop carried most of the DOA part from Samsung. Because of the T&C from that retailer shop, they won't replace the dxmn phone. I'm wondering can i straightly replace it at Samsung service centre. anyone any ideal?
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
I believe their policy for the EU zone is the same, here in The Netherlands they exchanged mine for a new unit straight up.

/edit:

Oh and also I was referring to the psychological value of the number 5 which seems to popup when people claim to have problems with their units.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Probably depends in your country, but in my place stores only replace it once then its off to the service center for the nTH replacement :)
[Galaxy S II General] holyguyz:
My first 4 units were exchanged on the spot at store. My 5th unit are no more exchangeable due to T&C. Couldn't they just change the faulty phone? :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Same thing here but at least you got upto 4 exchanges on the phone, we only get 1 exchange from the store and the rest directly to sammy.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I think that there are indeed legitimate QC issues. Most people posting an issue they're experiencing come here to figure out whether or not it's just effecting them and to seek advice on how to deal with it. There's no OMG! or anger in their tone, they just are looking for information. If they don't like what they learn, they return the phone never to be heard from again.

Then you have the handful of chronic perfectionists that jump from thread to thread posting pretty much the exact same thing. This group works each other up in to a frenzy adding pages and pages of chatter between themselves that have literally no value. They also compare the phone to either a far simpler device they've owned previously or some utopian view of perfection that can't possibly be met by Samsung or any other manufacturer. I've come to realize that they actually enjoy their martyrdom and are using this forum as a proxy for a life, otherwise they would have sold or returned the phone a long time ago.
[Galaxy S II General] mihaicp:
100% worth the money. If I could turn back the time, I would buy it again ;)
[Galaxy S II General] Altimas:
I'll have to agree, totally worth it. Bought mine outright too.
[Galaxy S II General] fkofilee:
I outright own the SGS2 and the Sensation :)

Both are worth their weight in gold :)

Sadly i dont agree with the cheap plastic Samsung have made their phone from when HTC opt for their aluminium cases.....

Cant go wrong with a score of 4500 in quadrant though xd :)
[Galaxy S II General] GodzZz:
Of course is it worth the money! Best phone i ever bought! ;)
[Galaxy S II General] ushare:
Best phone out there. Similar to price of iphone so yes. iPhones are more crap too
[Galaxy S II General] andras2011:
I think it was worth the price I paid, it's a good phone.
[Galaxy S II General] blue265:
I think its worth it. They are cheaper than iphone4 and you get way more out of it. No lag at all and lots of memory. Its cheap if you buy on contract as well. As they say you only live once so I say enjoy what you can even if it costs a little extra.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
In your case I have no doubt that you truly did exchange 4 units but there are some people out there (who live in other countries btw) whom have claimed to have exchanged 4 units too. By now it's hard to believe who has done what, specially when it concerns the magic number 5 which also has a psychological value.
[Galaxy S II General] whmcal:
Look at it this way. GS2 is essentially: a dual core computer with near 16gb storage, a LED tv, a telephone and a 8 mega pixel still/video camera capable of HD video recording.	I'd love to have got it cheaper, but with those specs, it was always going to be pricey. I'm happy with my purchase, it does what it says on the tin, it's customizable n will be future proof for a while. That's worth paying for.

The very fashionable iphone on the other hand...well, imho sim-free, that's painfully expensive. But... does fashion ever have a price too high for dedicated followers...

Sent from Samsung Galaxy s2 via Xda Premium
[Galaxy S II General] THUDUK:
I don't know why people go on about cheap plastic build, plastics are a highly specialist material that can have very high quality properties, like extreme heat and flame resistance, bacterial resistance, if designed right great amounts of strength, long lasting, resistances beyond most metals, if you actually take some time to see just how they managed to squeeze all that technology into an extremely light yet strong build that holds together one of the greatest screens on any device, dual core, three axis gyro, accelerometer and so on....I'd say it's fantastic value
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
They've never heard of precious plastics, only metals :p
[Galaxy S II General] dudi1986:
i got for 609 € almost 3 months ago:mad:

its now 40 € cheaper :)

but gotta sayi would have even paid 700€ for it considering the the Iphone was about 700€
[Galaxy S II General] Archer:
No it's not.
[Galaxy S II General] Blumpkin3:
It's definately worth it, especially when bundled with a plan. This phone rapes alllll the rest.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I've seen the future. And it's plastic...
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Whats that huge one on the right most???
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
They're all pictures taken at different angles of the HTC Holiday which is coming to AT&T in October. It's a 4.5" screen which is why it looks so big.
[Galaxy S II General] jlevy73:
Yep, worth every penny
[Galaxy S II General] SirRufio:
I deal with phones on a daily basis, both sales and repairs and my repairs cupboard is filled with none other then iphone 4's ! SGS II's are sold in mass quantity and not one has been faulty - NOT ONE ! so to all whining about qc on samsung's behalf i guess u really do have bad luck or just don't know how to use it !
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
There's been some legitimate QC stuff, mostly with the display. Thinks like suction cup circles from assembly, finger prints on the inside of the display, and extreme color temperatures. Those obviously shouldn't exist and hopefully people exchange those phones quickly. A lot of what are described as "issues" are, at least in my opinion, unrealistic expectations for a mass-produced multi-purpose device. I've had my phone since May and haven't had a single FC. Nor have I had to take the back cover off. I also use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi heavily and still get 14-18 hours of battery life with moderate-heavy use. I guess I got one of the few good ones. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] nraudigy2:
sgs2 is overpriced especially with mostly plastic, but i would buy again.
[Galaxy S II General] chestvrg:
That's right LOL

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] chestvrg:
I have had my galaxy sII for almost two months and it has no problems so far. I love this device.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] yyhd:
i think you are an overpriced phone, OP!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] dsmaori:
I've had no issues whatsoever with my phone and love it. I bought the Sony Arc first and discovered why it is a fair bit cheaper than the s2, because it's sh1t. Well, the one I had was anyway.

This is my 4th android phone and by far the best. Well worth the money. If you don't think it is, sell it and buy something you're happy with. Pretty simple really :p
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
SII's are sold in mass quantities but there are still more Iphone4's out and its been released long plus those users dont really know how to use the phone if you have such of a number :p

Putting aside fanboyism and denial, as what barry said there are legitimate claims on defects the problem is that people are getting a lot of misinformation about which ones are with in spec and which ones are defects.
[Galaxy S II General] Declan79:
We get what we paid exactly and there is npthing wrong with this superb smartphone at this moment (at least the best till now,entering 3rd quartal of this year)

sent from my 2.3.3|dxjpe DJGTabs7
[Galaxy S II General] whmcal:
Lol, I love this thread. I think gs2 is worth it totally. it's top of the range stuff. Again, no one ever asks this about the iphone (which by the way is imo comparatively substandard). With all the hype of Apple over the years, it's almost as if minds have been conditioned to pay whatever is asked for an 'iphone'...but anything else, we question. Why is this? :-[ Belief in apple is almost like belief in a religion. 'salvation' through iphone... The competition (i .e samsung) I guess just aint 'worthy' ;-)

Sent from Samsung Galaxy s2 via Xda Premium
[Galaxy S II General] nicpol7:
overpriced phones ?maybe all other new models but not galaxy s2..

xperia ark.xpeira neo..desire s..incredible s..all very close to galaxy s2 price but with last years processor,ram etc..

sensation..same price..dust under the screen of a 500 pounds phone???????

iphone 4..about 200 euros more expensive ...iphone 5 maybe 500 euros more!!!!

blackberry 9900..520 pounds????
[Galaxy S II General] Archer:
It's funny how there's a lot of threads started by people who make a statement like this and then never even bother coming back. Almost like, oh I don't know....
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
That was a given, his title is already misleading to begin with. But its always nice and funny to hear different viewpoints.
[Galaxy S II General] holyguyz:
You're right, magic number 5. Luckily not 7.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
I also don't see why some people make a fuss about this. You can have a unibody aluminum design but the lightes HTC phone is still much too heavy. The Sensation is 148 grams, that's almost 50% more weight. My previous phone was a i8910HD and it also weighs 148 grams, which was way too heavy to carry around.

What else is there? Strength? In my 12+ years of repairing phones I've rarely seen people break the body and if the body breaks it's always some extreme case or a design failure. 90% of the repairs I do (even the older dumbphones) are screen, microphone or speaker related.

The old Samsung slider phones had a tendency to break over time and the old Nokia phones became squeeky and cracky over time, matter of tightening the screws. Our phone don't have slider and the design is rocksolid so I don't think it will crack or squeek over time, just like the S1.

But you want to know whats funny. These peopel who mag about quality. I've never ever ever ever heard anybody complain about the real issue, the USB connector. The design and placement, when force is applied it will break and I'm sure over time we will see people breka their USB connectors. Also there is no cover so it collects dust and dirt. Already I'm seeing people who complain about their phone going into download mode, car mode or MTP mode without them doing anything. Dirty USB connector is the culprit.

So people who say it's plastic, yeah it is, STFU!
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Im currently on my 3rd unit, so is my story still believable ? :p

I did get a chance to check another 4 units at the service center but they had obvious defects that both the sales and tech person saw/noticed it outright.. Glad I got past number 5 ;)

I was expecting the 4th unit they popped would be great but instead it had massive horizontal white line on the other half of the screen when anything back or dark is displayed :(

Because they want their precious metals ;)

P.S.

Regarding the connector, Noticed that possibily of breaking after I made a few charge cycles, but things like this might not be an issue for the majority hence you dont see them posting about it.
[Galaxy S II General] buxz777:
funny you mention the usb port my friend is having great troubles with his phone thinking that a usb cable is a charger and that the charger is a usb cable .

it is also saying it is connected to usb when it isnt and connecting and disconnecting the mass memory/external sd card and doing a media scan like when it has been connected in mass storage mode

he thinks the pins are already damaged inside or tha dirt has got in there and causing issues

ive also noticed to be carefull with it because of the posistion and design etc .

on a side note ive had many high end phones and the sgs2 is the best i have had i like the plastic design i find metal scratches worse and looks even worse when marked , i find dark plastics although they scratch it hides the marks easier .

i dropped my n8 and the metal looked horrible from a small drop , yet i dropped my n82 loads of times over the years and the marks dont look as bad on the plastic .

metal does feel nice in the hand but it is heavy and shows marks off more then plastics in my eyes , it also dents on impact etc

everyone has thei own tastes but i dont mind the plastic light feel of the sgs2 and i find it a positive more then a negative :-)
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
A metal body is a big negative for me IMHO.
[Galaxy S II General] sdoc96:
I would have paid more for something this good.
[Galaxy S II General] Cpt Streamline:
I'm in the UK and it was definatly worth the price. My contract is with the 3 network and is as follows:

£35 pm

2000 any network minutes

5000 3 to 3 minutes

5000 texts

and all you can eat data which really is all you can eat with no limits!

Oh and the phone was free on a two year contract.
[Galaxy S II General] holyguyz:
this explained Samsung manufacturer have a very poor QC, or NO QC at all. :rolleyes:

edit: we should create "Do your SGS2 replaced/exchanged more than 3 times?" poll/post then.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
I think you need to check online before you buy. Amazon.de is offering is for 492. When I look up the history of Amazon.de I'm seeing they offered it for 550 at launch.

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B004Q3QSWQ/...de=asn&creative=22494&creativeASIN=B004Q3QSWQ

I'm sure you can find places which sell for cheaper.

I'm guessing you missed out on this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16678160&postcount=42
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Yes I've went through selecting over dozens of phones before deciding which one to get as "my 3rd replacement".

No I never claimed I was on my 10th phone, its another one of your efforts to twist things and probably make me look bad :confused: but nobody is buying your stories since your also smart enough to quote me.

Since you own a service center, your definition of a replacement might be different (Idiotic if I may add). The store or the service center only counts the # of replacements based on the times I've returned my phone and request for an exchange, selecting through 4 units (which Ive done last week) does not count as +4 to my replacement counter, but I know you already know this.

Your personal crusade about this selective subject matter is actually amusing I have to applaud you for the effort :cool:

Might not be a big fuss for you since you havent returned it more than once (Im just assuming that you have the S2) but for the OP and the others returning it more than 2-3 times is a little bit of an inconvenience especially with the limited testing/examining you can do on the service center/store.

The same could be said for any other issue on the phone, for every battery life or AOS bug or camera/video related thread its the same people that make the replies since they are the ones who had personal experience with the issue and those issues are extremely minor to begin with, heck even the USB connector issue is a non issue.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
I've noticed that those with the issue dont generally have a harsh or angry tone except from the last 2 threads that was started but what I've noticed though some people with perfectly working phones are actually angry with a hostile disposition towards people who didnt get lucky the firs time around, this is something I dont really understand why :confused:

What would be your advice to someone who has spent a lot of time and effort already for the phone and have gone through a couple of replacements, refund is no longer available and he has a hard time of letting go but at the same time frustrated about a couple of issues, I cant convince him to make a solid decsision either.

This is what someone is doing to somebody for the last 3-4 threads related to something, someone has to end it thought. Maybe I'll take the first step.
[Galaxy S II General] raf2k:
shut up! Its the best phone on the market.
[Galaxy S II General] sajadkhan806:
was that a joke. :mad:

u insulted my phone.

u deserve a low blow for this....

go for it bro its the best phone. i think its under priced
[Galaxy S II General] slugger09:
No I wouldn't say its overpriced, its a top of the range device, what is over priced is the iPhone 4, year old tech at around the same price as the SGS2
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
True, the Ip4 is even more expensive than the S2 and everything that the IP4 can do can also be done on the S2 and even better.

Maybe the OP means its overpriced relative to his income ?
[Galaxy S II General] goodsmile:
what ur saying here is i guess s2 is wannabe iphone?

well w/e i think its worth 1000000% of the money

and for the folks that say its a iphone copy please....

for its design.... to me, every smartphones nowdays looks like same , touchy screen, home button, sometimes a back button all the same...

and also... its ANDROID ! not the simple slide left slide right and touch the icon iOS :D

dun get me wrong.... i think iphones are great, but s2 is better :D
[Galaxy S II General] skibadee:
Lol whys this **** even commenting on a Samsung forum? My sgs1 was better than iPhone 4, the sgs 2 burys it!

I smell troll farts :P
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
That's not what you said in the other thread. But I'm happy you seem to have taken offense, so much that you need to attack me on a personal basis. Nice... Why do you have this need all of a sudden?

But hey you offered me 3 times the retail price but when I took you up on the offer you never replied. So enough said about your efforts to get the perfect device.

Time will tell which issue is going to be the biggest.
[Galaxy S II General] goodsmile:
didnt i say its better than iphone 4? =)
[Galaxy S II General] skibadee:
sorry, my bad.

I was refering to lynzoid, or maybe iLynzoid :P
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
You didnt offend me the slightest so dont worry too much about it, also, Im not personally attacking you or anything at all, why would you think that I am :confused: we both know how a forum discussion goes when 2 opposing opinions meet :)

As for the offer, sorry I must have missed your reply or message. Its still up, I'll definitely reimburse you for transportation cost / logistics after I see the unit and purchase it. Just let me know :D

True, hopefully there wont be any big issues as the S1 never had any.

100% agree on this, the S1 is better than the iPhone4 in almost all aspects and will probably still be better than the iPhone5, I wouldnt be surprised if reviewers still compare the S1 vs the IP5.
[Galaxy S II General] chaoszero112:
Considering it's less than the iPhone 4 and does a lot more, no it is not over priced.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Agreed

/10characters.
[Galaxy S II General] marc.knuckle:
brilliant phone, wouldnt touch apple tech with a bargepole.
[HTC Sensation] Pain123:
Hi! Is there any way too stop Locations in my Sensation from autostart when I put the phone in CU S490 Car holder?
[HTC Sensation] mattyv316:
Not sure if there are any settings for this, but i just removed the apk files in the system/app folder that locations use. Works for me.
[HTC Sensation] pakraider:
We don't have HTC Locations in the US branded ones, but just a guess.. Maybe it's set as a default for the dock event? Try going into Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications and find Locations, and see if you can hit 'clear defaults'. Might do the trick.