yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] zander145:
You cal call it your DDD Evo all you want. I attended that pole, and looked at the options, and 3vo, just sounded right to me.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Why be confused? We call it that, that simple. If we sound retarded...sorry to not have your intelligence. Censorship is alive I see.
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg

Sent from my Shooter.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
This thread is really worse than calling it 3vo...outta here.
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
why is this turd still not locked ! ?
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
No idea...
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
We need to lighten the mood in here!
[HTC EVO 3D] Gilbot:
What we do, is what we do.
[HTC EVO 3D] mnsportsguy1978:
LMAO! 10char
[HTC EVO 3D] runeazn:
pac man anyone^?
[HTC EVO 3D] jdg2002:
too funny....
[HTC EVO 3D] .:[K]!nG_D:.:
LOL I prefer "3DvO"

Sent from my rEvOlut¡oN¡zEd hTC 3DvO ¦]
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
I got your 3vo right here
[HTC EVO 3D] nonpointtruth:
Why not just call it "D3vO.."

Whip it good..
[HTC EVO 3D] Vladimyr:
three-vo!

I like '3vo' very much because of it sounds like 'three-vo',

that means in Russian: '3 x thumbs-up'! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] alanmv567:
3vo.....please call it the evo 3d....that is all
[HTC EVO 3D] alanmv567:
actually call it the 3ballsicle
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
3vo For The Win!
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
I'm gunna start calling it wanna-be-sgsii.

Sent from my Shooter.
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Double Dvo. My favorite size.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vaanhoot:
Today my phone randomly rebooted when idle and didn't get past the talon loading screen when running Dlev 4.2 rom. it was working fine for 1.5 weeks or so on that rom and had made no changes other than activating voodoo lagfix yesterday. No matter what I did (Factory reset, clear cache...etc) it still wouldn't get past the talon loading screen so I reinstalled Dlev 4.2. Same problem, won't get past the kernel loading screen. So I flashed stock JL1 (rogers) with odin and my phone booted, but then had tonnes of fc's and eventually just reboot into 3e recovery and had a bunch of red errors (can't mount a bunch of stuff). It gave me the option to format sd card, so I chose that but it told me sd card was not found. I then thought to 1 click JF6, but after the at&t screen the phone just goes to black screen with lights on. I can get into 2e recovery mode still but no download mode with key combo's. I believe the sd card needs to be reformatted. I have a jig coming someday soon, ordered it 2 weeks ago, but I was wondering if there is anything I can try till it arrives to revive my phone. I tried adb commands from recovery but it doesn't detect my phone. My computer says installing drivers (CDC Abstract control Model (ACM)) but nevers finishes installing them. Thanks for you help.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vaanhoot:
I was able to get into download mode by typing adb reboot download when phone was booting. I flashed one of the speedmod kernels I had on my computer and I can boot into CWM Recovery now. I formatted sdcard and reflashed JL1 but still no boot. What else can I try???

Edit: I think my internal memory is damaged or something. When I boot into 3E recovery I get the following errors.

update media, please wait

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

(I/O error)

E:copy_dbdata_media:Can't mount SDCARD:

Your storage not prepared yet, please use UI menu for format and reboot action.

E:copy_dbdata_media: format SDCARD:

Formatting SDCARD:...

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

(I/O error)

E:copy_dbdata_media:Can't mount SDCARD:

copy default media content failed.

Edit 2:

I have been doing research and have found out that I need to fix my partitions at /dev/block/mmcblk0p1. I pushed parted to my phone and used adb shell to run it following directions of a website, but when I try to make a new filesystem by typing parted /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 mlfs ext2 I get an error Error: /dev/block/mmcblk0p1: unrecognized disk lable. I don't know linux at all. Can anyone help please.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Balem:
please delete im a moron
[Off-topic] jags_the1:
hello,

i was wondering to port some new iphone themes to miui..

can some1 let me know any forum where i can find iphone themes ?

i am looking for status bar mods.

thanks
[Off-topic] TheRomMistress:
check http://www.iphone-developers.com/
[Off-topic] avgjoegeek:
can always do the ol' google for "winterboard themes" as well.
[Off-topic] T.C.P:
http://macthemes.net/forum/
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
Easy, check out MacThemes. High quality themes/icons. Remember to give credit to the original creators if you decide to use their stuff.
[Off-topic] T.C.P:
check post above yours, :p
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
Doh! MacThemes representin'! :p
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] behelit:
I just wanted to see if anyone has the same problem as me.

When I toggle data after it being off for a few hours, it won't connect unless I change 2g/3g or go into airplane mode and back out.

The toggle works fine on other phones so I'm assuming it's a nexus issue.

Once it has connected, the toggle works fine but after say 3 hours of it being disconnected (data off) it won't instantly turn back on if I toggle data again.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bassmadrigal:
I have never had any issues with this. Are you running stock, or a mod?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirk:
After a few hours in my pocket the data will drop out completely and will need an Airplane mode toggle to bring it back. This is on CM7.

Perhaps it's the same behaviour/bug?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] behelit:
it happens on both stock and custom roms but perhaps it is my carrier.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirk:
Well, we're both with the same carrier, albeit in different countries. This used to happen on both of the WinMo phones i had too. I wonder if VF somehow sever the connection after a set period? I don't use my phone a lot so it stands to reason that i would see this happen often, as i do, in that case.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
i recently loaded my triumph with cherry mobiles magnum hd gingerbread software. the phone works great but is there a way i can get the radio to work.. by radio i mean the calling radio like not the fm radio but the actual radio to work? it seems like the software i loaded is for a gsm phone because it lists an imei number?? btw the hotspot activates flawlessly on gingerbread..the built in fm radio does not work it only picks up static..but other than not being able to connect to a cell tower it works just fine...will be uploading pics soon... is there a cdma gingerbread that i can install because im really sure cherry mobile magnum hd is a gsm phone because the phone is asking for a sim card?? but the o.s works beautifully on the triumph..
[Motorola Triumph] allenk09:
No information on radio, but there is no FM radio chip built into the triumph.
[Motorola Triumph] ceejay83:
link? it's a fully functional gb rom?
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
yes it is somewhat functional everything else seems to work except the cell phone cdma radio and the fm radio (no hardware support aka not installed) so you can use the wifi to do stuff and both ffc and rear camera work.. at first my phone would just cycle boot ( keep restarting) so i just formated the memory and the cache in the menu where u hold down all buttons.. i just unzipped the file and put it in the sd card and renamed it (i forgot but it says when you try to load it on the phone)..

if you want the links i have to message them to you because...

(To prevent spam to the forums, ALL new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. After approximately eight posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thanks for understanding!)
[Motorola Triumph] ceejay83:
what's the point of using that if you can't even make phone calls/send texts
[Motorola Triumph] richiehd:
Couldn't you try reloading the radio files back on it?
[Motorola Triumph] garymachete:
I'm glad someone did this... will you run some benchmarks? I wonder how GB linpacks

MOTWX435KT
[Motorola Triumph] 903tex:
From what i remember the cherry is a GSM phone meaning the radio is not going to work on the triumph. Since we all know virgin is CDMA.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
i wanted to see if i could atleast get gingerbread on it.. after 8 posts i will post pics of the phone and the link to install.i am trying to see how far i can take the phone.. .. the phone was rooted when it had froyo but i dont think that affects the all buttons pressed down menu... i will run some benchmark tests tomorrow... is there any gingerbread roms that are for x6 phone roms that are cdma that i could try to install??
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
That may be just a library difference.... and easily grafted back in and fixed!
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
ok heres the stuff..

link that i followed to install this gingerbread on my phone... (just a tenth warning that the cdma radio will NOT work.. wifi DOES work tho..) http://androidos.in/2011/06/install...10-now-official-build-from-huawei-x6-variant/

pics (sorry there poor quality they were taken with a .... samsung intercept... lol)

unlock screeen

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b416/99VWPASSATAEB/imagejpeg_2.jpg

wireless network menu

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b416/99VWPASSATAEB/imagejpeg_2_2.jpg

hotspot enabled

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b416/99VWPASSATAEB/imagejpeg_2_3.jpg

phone info

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b416/99VWPASSATAEB/imagejpeg_2_4.jpg

more phone info

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b416/99VWPASSATAEB/imagejpeg_2_5.jpg

more more phone info

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b416/99VWPASSATAEB/imagejpeg_2_6.jpg

ill take more pictures in a few days once i see if i can get the phone to enable that cdma radio..
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
Oh boy..... ok, time for me set up an Android development environment over here and start ripping this apart to see if I can find the correct missing pieces and play "splicer".
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
MAKE SURE YOUR BATTERY IS ALMOST OR FULLY CHARGED BEFORE BEGINNING

1.DOWNLOAD THE FIRMWARE FROM:

http://www.cherrymobile.com.ph/downloads/MAGNUM_softwareupdate2.zip

2.EXTRACT IT TO YOUR DESKTOP

3.THERE WILL BE A FILE NAMED

FB0-318B-0-5019-A01.nb0

CHANGE IT TO

firmware.nb0

4. AFTER THE FILE WAS CHANGED FROM

FB0-318B-0-5019-A01.nb0

TO

firmware.nb0

COPY IT TO YOUR SD CARD (DO NOT PLACE IN A FOLDER)

5.AFTER YOU DO THAT TURN PHONE OFF.. PRESS POWER,VOLUME UP AND DOWN AT THE SAME TIME UNTIL PHONE SCREEN SHOWS THE MOTOROLA EMBLEM..

6.NOW WHEN YOU GET INTO THE MENU PRESS BACK OR HOME TO SHOW OPTIONS.. USE VOLUME BUTTONS TO GET TO THE LAST ONE IT SHOULD SAY INSTALL OR DOWNLOAD .NB0 FILE.. CLICK ON THAT ( I THING PRESS HOME TO ENTER OR POSSIBLY BACK SORRY I FORGOT).

7. AFTER YOU PRESS ON DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL NB0 FILE IT SHOULD HAVE A CIRCULAR GREY THING ON THE SCREEN (THE SAME KIND OF ICON WHEN GOOGLE SYNC'S ON YOUR PHONE BUT BIGGER) IT TOOK ME ABOUT 5 MINS..

8. AFTER THAT THE SCREEN SHOWED MY PHONES INFO AND WARNED THAT MY BATTERY WAS LOW I JUST TOOK OUT THE BATTERY AND RESTARTED IT..

9. THE PHONE WAS STUCK IN A CYCLE IT KEPT RESTARTING AFTER SAYING MAGNUM HD ON THE SCREEN..SO I REPEATED STEPS 5-8..A FEW TIMES

WITH NO SUCCESS..

10. IN THAT MENU WHERE U PRESSED DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL NB0 FILE THERE ARE TWO OPTION IN THERE THAT ARE LIKE WIPE CACHE AND FORMAT PARTITION SO I DID BOTH OF THOSE (NO SPECIAL ORDER) RESTARTED AND I THING IT DID THE SAME THING JUST KEPT CYCLING..

11. SO I DID STEPS 5-8 AGAIN AND IT MAY HAVE BOOT CYCLED LIKE 3 TIMES BUT AFTER THAT IT BOOTS GREAT..

THE PHONE BOOTS UP AND SHUTS DOWN PERFECTLY SO THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A TEMPORARY THING..

I WANTED TO DISPLAY MY TRIAL AND ERROR TO HELP YOU OUT.. NOW I DIDN'T TRY IT ANY DIFFERENT WAY SO IM JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I DID BECAUSE IT WORK FOR ME..

WARNING:NOW BY DOING THIS YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE CDMA RADIO WILL NOT WORK (BECAUSE THE FIRMWARE IS FOR A GSM PHONE) ... BUT WIFI SEEMS TO WORK..BOTH CAMERAS WORK FINE...THERE IS NO BUILT IN RADIO IN THE TRIUMPH BUT THE FIRMWARE SUPPORTS ONE ( ALL YOU GET IS STATIC SO ITS PROBABLY THE MAGNETIC SENSOR IN THE PHONE).. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES THAT OCCUR TO YOUR PHONE..

ANY QUESTIONS JUST ASK.. I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN GET SOME REALLY SMART PEOPLE TO HELP ME FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE THE CDMA RADIO WORKING.. SO IT WILL BE PERFECT..
[Motorola Triumph] JWhipple:
This is truly good news - definitely a step in the right direction! I don't care about CM7 - I just want a vanilla GB ROM!
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
Do you have CWM installed? Would it be possible to post a nandroid backup?
[Motorola Triumph] JWhipple:
A few other OEM ROMs and tools are available here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985476

Kernel Source and a few other items for the Non-Motorola variant of the Foxconn FB400 can be downloaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/FB400

Not sure if that source will help us at all, but it might!
[Motorola Triumph] JWhipple:
Isaac, who is working on the CM7 port, is asking if the OP can do a system dump so he can look at it.

Here's a link to the thread where he asked:

http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...-gsm-carrier-booting-triumph.html#post3071307
[Motorola Triumph] isaacj87:
FWIW, CM7 is basically a vanilla GB ROM.

To the OP:

Are you able to flash back to the original ROM? I'm hesitant to flash it as I don't know what the nb0 file contains. It might change partitions on the phone that I don't want it changing.

I'd like to extract the nb0 file to see what's in it. I don't know how it's done on Linux. However, if you can give me a nandroid backup of the GB ROM, I can extract the system and boot images.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
i have found a few stock roms but haven't installed them because i use my other triumph to download them and trying to download 71.6mbs with sprints 3g is not so easy but i will start downloading and give it a try...also i have not done anything else to the phone except root it (when it had stock rom on it) but now i dont think that matters... what is the menu called when you hold down all the buttons i keep forgeting the name? i think there is a custom one but i haven't installed it yet... is a nandroid backup when i go in download mode and copy files? specifically what files? thank you

i will try and set the phone back to stock.. and try the cherry mobile gingerbread rom to see if it works
[Motorola Triumph] isaacj87:
No, you'll have to install CWM. Download the file from here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16248758&postcount=428

Follow these instructions: http://androidforums.com/3016785-post115.html

Once you've accomplished that, make sure the GB ROM is still installed and run a nandroid backup. Upload the system.img and boot.img files.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
ok got it .. will try that today thanks
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
because the phone has a rom for a diffrent phone installed it will not let me get into the download menu... so i need to find a stock rom and then install that custom cwm...
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K008YQLI and http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BQILE85M

I extracted the nb0 and grabbed the files you requested Isaac:

boot.img

system.img

*see title for links, apparently XDA won't let me share links till I get a more posts in...
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
my attempts to package the boot.img and system.img above into a nandroid and attempt a restore didn't work unfortunately. it would just hang at the motorola image during boot.

however, if the OP shares his nandroid backup, I'll try it out. maybe some build.prop tweaks or replacing the kernel can get CDMA functional, while we wait for motorola to release the official source...
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
I have tried several times to get the phone into download mode and I can't get it into it... I wanted to install cwm but the phone will not go into download mode... I have tried many times to install a different rom even a stock but it keeps giving me errors..I can put a video on youtube of the phone if you guys want to see it.... You guys got any ideas?
[Motorola Triumph] isaacj87:
Thanks I'm downloading them now. I'll break them open and see what I can find.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
ok so i was making a video of what the phone does while trying to get into download mode and first try no go and socond try it goes... i have coped the entire folder ..where do i download them..well im downloading them to google docs..now i just saved the whole image file .. and the recovery file is not the cwm one so its stock..and for this rom download mode is power + volume up..lol its always the smallest things
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
I noticed the Magnum HD instructions said press PWR and Vol + and Vol - to get into download mode. But for the Triumph, you only need to use PWR and Vol -. Have you tried that yet?

Pull the battery, wait a few seconds, put it back, press and hold Volume Down and simultaneously press PWR.

If that doesn't work, you can try to use ADB and see where these command take ya:

adb reboot recovery

adb reboot bootloader
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
while i was making a video i guess i pressed power and volume up and there it goes right into download mode.. i copied the entire image.. the recovery file is stock... but now i have cwm..it is awesome ... here is the entire image file on google docs for anyone to download...

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2...ODExMi00YzliLTgyYmYtMDEwNTRiZWQ5Njlh&hl=en_US
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
can you still post your nandroid back from CWM? the files you shared didn't have system.img
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
Oh so I have to do a backup with a cwm?
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
I presume that's what he's looking for - with the GSM Gingerbread version loaded, do a Nandroid backup using CWM, and post those files (system.img in particular.)
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
heres the whole backup file for gingerbread:

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2...MjZhNS00NThjLWJkZmUtMGNlYTdiOTI3NjVj&hl=en_US
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
can you post a new link? this one doesn't work. try megaupload.com
[Motorola Triumph] StaticMaal:
So the /system folder wont work for what he need? Because i tried to do a nandroid backup and it didnt finish i restarted the phone.
[Motorola Triumph] SmootOp23:
I installed the gingerbread rom because i messed up my stock rom. How do i change it back to stock.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
heres the gb backup: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I703Q0WE

stock froyo triumph backup : coming soon
[Motorola Triumph] barnito:
100% stock nandroid backup!!!

100% STOCK NANDROID BACKUP!!!

tinyurl DOT com/3sztlzo

Sorry, I can't post links here.... had to improvise a little bit :)

make sure you install the CWM by going into fastboot (vol - and power on) Hook up usb, then drop the recovery.img in the folder on the MOBILE drive.

Extract "Stock Triumph 1980 01 06.00.00.34.7z" to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ Boot into CWM and look for mounts. First format system, data, cache, and under advanced format dalvik cache, then select "backup and restore" and under the restore options select the Stock_Triumph_1980-01-06.00.00.34 folder, and it will restore a never powered on backup of the stock rom.
[Motorola Triumph] StaticMaal:
Where did you post it at?
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
I tried to restore from gingerbread to stock using can and I get a hybrid rom... Ird cherry mobile but in a froyo... Can the cwm boot nb0 file like you could with the stock recovery?
[Motorola Triumph] StaticMaal:
Is yours saying searching for signal?
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
Yes it still thinks it's a gsm phone because it has an imei# listed in the about phone menu...but the phone says searching for service...
[Motorola Triumph] StaticMaal:
Do you know how to change it back yet?
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
I have an idea but my computer is starting to go out.. So inns try a few other things..
[Motorola Triumph] StaticMaal:
I'll be happy to try them cause i regret doing this now.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
Let me do some testing to figure how to do that... Are you running cwm?
[Motorola Triumph] StaticMaal:
YEA I WAS

Can you help me my phone wont boot up it keeps going into download mode. This is what i did i went into download mode to fix it from when i installed the gingerbread.nbo. I deleted the image folder then replaced it with the one i backed up with and now my phone will only boot in bootloader.
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
Get into download mode (with the scrolling text), plug the phone into the USB. The unit should mount the bootloader area.

Copy "recovery.img" somewhere (save it) and then replace it with the CWM recovery.img.

Disconnect and try again - you SHOULD get Clockwork.
[Motorola Triumph] isaacj87:
I need someone who is using Windows to extract the .nb0 file. Like I said, I was very hesitant in flashing this file because I figured it would affect hidden partitions that aren't backed up with CWM!

I believe it's possible to get your phones back to normal, but I need to know what exactly is in the nb0 package to say for sure.
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
I'm running Win7; tell me how to extract it and I will for you; I've got the file.
[Motorola Triumph] motorolatriumph:
i would like to know how to extract the nb0 file.. is there a nb0 file that i could download that is stock to the triumph?
[Motorola Triumph] tejesh83:
To get it to boot, you should be able to reflash the .nb0 file. Either place it on your sdcard as firmware.nb0 or use the SUT from the link posted where you got the gingerbread.nb0. Unfortunately, this will only restore the GSM version, so you still won't have CDMA cell signal. Unless Motorola releases an .nb0 file for the Triumph, you're likely SOL...

You could try to find a doner Triumph, put in download mode, and mount it under linux and clone it partition by partition and bit by bit... It might work? I'm not sure what else the nb0 file contains in addition to the partitions that it might've mucked with...
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
Cloning it SHOULD work from another unit, provided the partitioning didn't get too-seriously borked, and it probably didn't.
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
Incidentally I cannot get the loader to mount on my Linux (Ubuntu) distro; I am running it in a VM however. It does connect for adb and similar, but the automount that other people have reported doesn't work on my machine and no devices show up when I plug it in that I can manually mount either.....
[Motorola Triumph] SmootOp23:
If anyone finds a fix for this i will donate $5 through paypal
[Motorola Triumph] kwonyewest:
From what I'm understanding, what must be done is take Cherry Mobile's gingerbread ROM, replace the radio image w/ our current one, package that back up, and then we'll have gingerbread on our phones?

Hopefully more devs with the capability to do this will start using this phone. It seems so easy, yet it's beyond my technical capacity.
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
Without a CDMA load to grab from this is not as easy as it sounds.

It MAY be possible to graft in a CDMA radio to CM7. I'm playing with this, but it's a longshot.

The easy path is when Moto releases kernel sources, which they should eventually do. There may be a shortcut in the meantime, which is why I'm looking into it, but I wouldn't hold my breath....
[Motorola Triumph] Attictron:
Hopefully we get a custom rom sooner rather than later. I'm tired of the stock one already.
[Motorola Triumph] ziggy46:
Hey is anything still needed from a stock triumph? I have a stock triumph (just rooted that's it) and I have windows PC, experience with adb.
[Motorola Triumph] Attictron:
It seems that motorola has released the source code.
[Motorola Triumph] blarfiejandro:
In an ideal world you should just be able to take the RIL bits from a CDMA phone and copy them over for use with CM7. Assuming you didn't clobber the radio firmware you should be fine.
[Motorola Triumph] Genesis3:
Due to potential differences in entry points (and function arguments) and library versioning it's frequently not that simple..... but I am looking at it.