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[HTC EVO 3D] Neo3D:
**** ENGADGET!

That place was run by a bunch of Apple fan boys (Nilay Patel, et al) and even after they were fired, it's still very Apple fan boyish.

I've started reading other sites since the beginning of this year:

http://androidandme.com/

http://www.gsmarena.com/

http://www.phonearena.com/

http://www.theinquirer.net/ <-- I really like this one cuz you can FLAME the author! What blog site lets you do that?

Gizomodo is also an Apple fan boy site, they've been trying to kiss Apple's ass since the day they bought that $5k iPhone some drunk left in a bar.

To be honest, it was hard to get off Engadget at first, but after about a month, I don't miss it at all anymore and get plenty of tech news thru other sites.

I'm not against Apple fan boy sites, but sites that are supposed to cover all of the tech world, should be unbiased. There already are tons of Apple & Android oriented sites for those who only want a one sided view of things.
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Sounds like someone is mad at someone else for having an opinion. Pity that will still live in this type of a world. :rolleyes:

Where in the world does it say that a blog has to be non biased? That's the nature of the beast, any author of an article will always show his bias no matter what and if you can't deal with it, don't a read a blog.

And if you're going to flame people at least get the facts straight. They didn't get fired they quit because of AOL's policies.

And I agree that a few of them were Apple biased but that doesn't mean the entire site or the group of them are pro-Apple (If I remember correctly Chris uses an Android and for a while Josh was using one too). Plus it isn't going to stop me from reading what they write because they do provide interesting view points in their editorials.
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
http://www.engadget.com/editor/myriam-joire
[HTC EVO 3D] Neo3D:
Read my post again, I said, it's okay to have biased blogs. They already exist for both camps. Learn how to read :rolleyes:

But, when it comes to Tech news, I expect news, not biased and distorted truths that make anything that doesn't bear a fruit logo sound inferior.
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Nevermind. Not gonna bother.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Good God..
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
:eek:

I know right, I followed her on twitter for awhile & never knew.

The avatar should've been a hint.
[HTC EVO 3D] rlaw:
Oh lawdy lawdy lawdy!

That being said, she lost all credibility once she mentioned the photon's display as "gorgeous."

To be fair, I can't fault her. She does wear eyeglasses after and has faulty vision.

But hey, I guess the penile display is pretty gorgeous. After all, you can see every pixel.
[HTC EVO 3D] poweroutlet:
Yeah I was pretty amazed when he/she said the Photon's screen was "stunning". I've seen the Photon's screen and in some ways it may beat the Evo 3D's, its brighter by a bit but the Evo 3D is far sharper and you can't see any pixels on our phones. In any case it makes no sense for him/her to say the Evo 3D's screen is trash and the Photon's is wonderful.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I've seen that picture before, but I thought Myriam was a dude that liked to be called a chick.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
This is just ridiculous. The evo 3d is way better, at least our screen doesn't practically have polka dots, the form and feel is way better, blur is still as annoying and ugly and sense 3.0 is helpful and fun to look at, the tegra is a slightly faster CPU, but our gpu beats the tegras in shaders clock cores memory and power effiency, my photo gallery doesn't make me play where's waldo to find the right picture, I can HDMI mirror to my TV, so no thanks webtop, pretty sure we'll be able to do it over dlna with root, my phone sounds 10x better and has srs trusurround.

I played with the photon extensively, and its a good phone, but not good enough to sit there and insult the 3d over like this genius.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
Double post
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Its definitely not way better lol.. neither phone is "way better" than the other. And there's no way on earth you can say the sound on this phone is better than ANY phone out right now with this weak speaker we have to deal with. Some of you act as if you created the 3D as defensive as you get for no reason.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Truth. This speaker sucks...sure, the volume level is very low...there are things you can do about that...and then you realize that the speaker also sucks. I have been meaning to try it with the back cover off. I would imagine that the microscopic-dot based speaker grate isn't the best for signal propagation, especially if it is tuned. That would certainly explain why it sounds so tinny.

EDIT: Okay, I tested. It sounds even worse with the cover off and not much louder. It sounds distorted when cranked up...kinda like pushing a band-pass sub-woofer box too hard...you will make it louder and not hear the distortion because the distorted frequencies are rolled off.

Of all the things the E3D does right (or at least better) than the Photon the speaker is probably the worst example...and if it's even the slightest bit true (which I doubt) I pity the speaker (and the owners) of the Photon.

Now the screen, on the other hand...Pentile, eww....
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
Its better in my opinion. The screen to me is terrible on the photon in my opinion. I couldn't buy a phone that is ugly in my opinion. That makes the evo 3d a better phone in my opinion.

Do I need to write a disclaimer in my signature on this site so somebody doesn't come crying every time I share an opinion on a forum?
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Wow, nuff said lol.

I always thought a woman who is into tech would be a turn on (maybe its just the advertisements aimed towards men), thanks myriam for crushing those dreams. Ill just keep my gf who absolutely can't stand the 3d feature on my phone (she says it messes with her eyes).
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
I've seen some hot women in the IT field and into tech. I still remember my boss from a job I worked at for a while. She had all kinds of tech toys and gadgets, loved bleeding edge tech, and was absolutely amazing looking. Usually though, in all my IT jobs, there tends to be only 1 hot one out of the handful working in IT. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Brian y.:
there is just not enough beer in the world to make that look decent......but yet there is someone out there that I am willing to bet has woke up next to her:eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
OH come on guys. resorting to personal attacks because she's a terrible editor?

What does her appearance have to do with her ability to critique? (or lack of ability.)

I agree, she obviously had a bias against the 3D before it was even released and for... some inexplicable reason thought the photon was better (Hint: I've played with one, it's not.) That isn't reason to attack her appearance.

With that said. I really don't get how the Droidx2 or the Photon is receiving higher praise than the 3Devo. I've played with both, a Droidx2 just the other day, and both had horrible feeling UI lag. as if there was an app in the background just gobbling up the CPU. *shrug*.

That, on top of Engadget giving the Torch 2 (99830+1 1/2... whatever f**king number scheme they have going.) a 7. I.. just... *sigh*

*smh*
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Dude, Im sure if, died my hair fire engine red, grew a handlebar mustache and wore a mini skirt, then posted it as a profile pic on a tech site people would make comments, she obviously went out of her way to look like that, and I imagine she dresses as bad as her hair. She better stay out of Walmart before she ends up on another well known website.;)

I don't think anybody is attacking her appearance because she is obviously a bad reviewer. Im sure shed be somewhat attractive if she wanted to be. So yea I went there lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
See, I actually prefer the lesbian look.. er, I mean. "punk" look. I'm not insinuating that she's a lesbian just because she looks like one..

oh, nevermind...

:D
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
The evo 3D is very disappointing.....fact! Why do you think devs jumped ship *cough* aamikiam just to name one. Phone sucks. Ive owned 4 of them.....I know that's just my personal exp but the phone is still trash. ****ty design, ****ty software, ****ty other **** im probably forgetting. :)

Who cares abt a photon, lets get some nexus prime love!
[HTC EVO 3D] :
It isnt horrible, its boring as **** for me right now though. I Do like the photons build better.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigjim1488:
Say "in my opinion" one more time!

And boom goes the Shooter!
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
The EVO3D isn't horrible, but it not that exciting either, like I said before it'll hold me over till another superphone gets dropped over the winner. Im looking for a 1.5 dual core and 4.5" qHD. Sure it has room for improvement, but people need to get of the **** phone bandwagon, Samsung Moment was a real **** phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
Lol i still have a samsung moment laying around god that phone was terrible. Your avatar has so much win my head is about to explode!
[HTC EVO 3D] jdawglx01:
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...... don't bring that this up ever again :-P
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
I dare you. I double dare you muthaf*cka' say "my opinion" one more god damn time!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] gotmoobs:
goto a certain site and watch the 4 minute clip of avatar in 3d. prepare to be blown away. That is no gimmick, I showed 7 people that today, and 8 people were literally jumping back. HTC surround sound 5.1 wiht bose headphones? and overclock to 1.8. Come on. People are retarded. Really. I hate engadget. They are on apple's nuts.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
U make it sound like the 3d is the worst phone ever made by HTC.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Ranger093:
Having access to both the bands may allow us to do Talk and data at the same time.... That would be awesome if not in a 4g zone. It would also free up bandwidth for us to have faster 3g speeds.
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
Not the worst HTC phone ever lol. My collection of HTC phones go back...way back to the mda. The specs are awesome man ill give it that but the design went from 9.5/10 to like 5/10. Of course 9.5 being the Evo 4G with its almost flawless design and decent specs. I just don't get it; I would assume you take that and run with it not go backwards. HTC's build quality has gone down hill, they made some money and now they're rushing out these phones man. The old HTC had the best hardware around with the worst software (windows mobile), now its other way around software is soild build quality is sub par to say the least.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Yes the build could be better. I find it difficult to do battery pulls. Taking off the entire back cover and ****. I liked having my battery exposed when flashing in case I had to pull the battery, but with these buttons I have to rip off the door, pull the battery, put it back on to go into recovery because of the button design, then pull it back off just incase. And the camera ****ing sucks. I do diss my 4G alot, alot of AOSP goodness.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
In my opinion. Haha, just making it clear :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
My opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
I disagree. I like my 3d, only build issue is the battery door. Flimsy. Photons build? The thing made noise in my hand because the plastic was flexing. No thanks. The capacative buttons in the store felt as if there sensitivity was set to an elephant stomp. I had to punch a touch sensitive button. Had the cliq, Droid, both like fell apart. My g1 to this day is flashing away as is my evo, and, my 3d feels equally solid. two dead motos and 3 great working htcs, standing in the store listening to the photon creek, watching it lag, and being tempted to count the pixels sense they pop better then any other image on the phone, and thumb boxing its buttons, yea. Happily left and still happily not owning a photon. I'd keep my og evo over it.

Only moto product I like: my xoom. Feels solid, for once.

Yes I know I posted three times. Give me multi quote for mobile!!! :,(
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Everyone saying its hard to do battery pulls...

Don't do them. Yay problem solved.

Press and hold power, volume up AND volume down. For like..5sec. The phone will reset.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
+1 I don't pull my battery, I replaced the SD. It was just flimsy
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Okay but for me I have to pull the battery, then put the door back on to hold down power and volume down to boot into bootloader. Then If I get another bad flash or error, I have to take the door back off, pull the batt, then reapply the door and same ****. Could I do your reset, and then quickly press volume down and power to get into bootloader fast?
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
I think maybe.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
I love how he's using Agile Lock (Sense 3.0 Lockscreen) on the Photon lol.

Yes, the Photon is a great phone, however some important points:

- Yes, it has GSM support...but not for North America. As in if you travel into Canada, it won't work on GSM. If you put in a T-Mobile/AT&T/Canadian SIM card, it won't connect to any networks. I can say though, that it was nice of Sprint to keep their policy of unlocking the SIM slot.​

- It's only running at 840 x 480 resolution, which is why you'll notice things are smoother on it (besides the Motoblur homescreen, which is laggy as hell). Go to your computer. Run a 3D game (ie Half-Life 2/Left 4 Dead 2). You'll notice a big difference between running a game at 800 x 600 and 1280 x 960. Same thing with benchmarking. Raw power-wise, the Evo 3D's MSM8660 Snapdragon is not only more powerful than the Tegra II, it's also more power-efficient because it can run one core slower than the other while the Tegra II is running both cores at the same frequency, wasting power.​

- The Evo 3D has 800 MHz ESMR support. The Photon doesn't. What does that mean? It means that when Sprint shifts voice down from 1900 MHz to 800 MHz (what will no longer be iDEN), the Evo 3D will benefit from significantly better coverage and possibly better battery life. The Photon won't.​

- Camera quality is subjective. Also, megapixel count after 3MP doesn't mean anything. 5MP vs 8MP? That doesn't dictate quality, only size. You're viewing these pictures on a phone screen and a computer screen. Both of those resolutions are probably higher than the resolution of your desktop and definitely higher than the resolution of your phone, so what does it matter?​

- Motorola stupidly made the Photon mount the internal 16GB of memory as SDCARD and your MicroSD card as SDCARD-EXT. So pictures will save to internal memory and not your SDCard and apps that can only access external storage will only be able to access the internal storage because that's what they'll think it is. It's kind of like the Nexus S.​

- The original Evo was so popular that HTC put out the Evo 3D in a GSM flavor for our Canadian neighbors and people around the world. Who gives a damn if you need to use a RAZR when you're on vacation in Europe? Unless you're a businessman (or businesswoman), you're really not going to benefit from the GSM capability of the Photon.​

- There is very little development among the Photon community. Not shooting them down at all, but anyone who's been in the Evo 4G community for the past year will tell you we have some of the best devs on XDA with us (Myn, Virus, Cyanogen, etc).​

And to anyone saying the Evo 4G had a ****ty camera, I beg to differ. I took these myself (click for larger). No effects were used at all:
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
Cyanogen develops for like everyone, and the photons screen is quarter high definition, also known as the exact same resolution as the evo 3d.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
My mistake. But the rest still stands. And the MSM8660 is still more powerful than the Tegra II in terms of raw power.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
Yea. As is the adreno 220 and it has more ram, and I just got a prl update, and as far as the photons beloved super radio, I haven't seen a bar missing in over an hour all over town. And my god, 4g gets perfect connection in my house

My og evo was fast on the network. 800mbps avg 3g, 3.5mbps average 4g

My 3d rips. 1.6, as high as 2mbps 3g and I just saw 8.98 mbps 4g with 2mbps up.

That's like, wow. I mean, when my contract is up I'm jumping to Verizon, if sprint fails to quickly deploy good lte. 9mbps is like wimax's holy grail and 35mbps is looking like a realistic speed for lte, with an average of like twenty.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
I used to get 15 Mbps on campus around last September. Now it's 4-5 Mbps.
[HTC EVO 3D] bludshot:
evo gets bad press... if the battery would last a whole day I'd say no contest, bad reviews or not.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
With what?
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
4G. Straight up, no exaggeration at all. This was back on my Evo 4G, before everyone had one.
[HTC EVO 3D] gruvmyster01:
I couldn't agree more...

The Evo 3D is an awesome phone with a much better build quality than the Photon in my opinion! I'm so glad I didn't wait around for the Photon. :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] digitalcrash:
EVO 3D greatest phone out there!
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I swear I don't know what everyone is talking about with bad build quality..I loved my og evo as much as a person could but the 3ds quality is on par or superior than the og..I have no problem removing.the battery cover and i actually like that it wraps around the rear..ppl nit pick and ***** and are never satisfied..i feel like my phone is a beast..it eats anything I throw at it with ease..if this phone doesn't make you happy than Im tempted to believe you never will be and you should develop your own *flawless* phone
[HTC EVO 3D] vanisleguy1976:
+1

Some people will never be satisfied!
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
Lol yeah and barrack obama is getting elected again....
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
PPfft.. Lololol..

who else is getting elected?.

no really. There is NO other candidate right now that doesn't make me fear for the future of America.

So basically what your post told me is that. "Yes, the Evo3D is in fact that best phone out there"
[HTC EVO 3D] Mediocrates:
Hmm....gotta love the way they changed the "tomboy" remark from the Engadget page:

http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/about/
[HTC EVO 3D] Cubfan99:
I owned the 3D and the Photon. The review is exactly right on every objective point. Yet you want to shoot the messenger.

If you like your phone, get a grip and enjoy it. These bigoted attacks aren't becoming. The phone has flaws. Big ones. If not for you, Congrats. Not everyone agrees with you, but I think you'll live.
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Aint no way n hell the 3d is better den da photon da 3d is not faster and tegra 2 ****s on snapdragon i own both
[HTC EVO 3D] vanisleguy1976:
Sadly, it seems the auto correct feature on your phone has malfunctioned!
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Hell i would say the same to u but ur battery wont last long enuff to correct nun lol only thing 3d is good for is a good headache from lookin at dat fake 3d lol
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Get the **** out these forums!

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Dnt get me wrong da 3d is a good phone but sayin its better then the MoPho is nonsense. Sprint put it out as a gimmick tryin to see the same results as the first one i bet ppl 4get bout da 3d way b4 the og evo. 3d is a great phone just not better then Photon
[HTC EVO 3D] abanh:
The Photon does have 800mhz esmr band and gsm 850/1900mhz according to phonescoop.com
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Ur just another ***** typin behind a phone probably got beat up yo whole life just a couple weeks ago everyone was tlkn bout takin da phone bak becuz of a bootloader now its da greatest huh. N u tough cuz u typin in a forum **** you and yo 3d *****
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
lol I think it's past someones bed time and they're getting grumpy
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Sounds like ur the tough one bro. Alot of accusations there. Come see me dude, FAU in Palm Beach FL. Ask for knowledge.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] :
lmao I cant lie, im laughing. He will be elected again but the last president I had faith in was Clinton, and I was like 7 when he was running ****.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Let me apologize to everyone else but nobody aint tlkn crazy to me bout no phone thats retarded. Everyone elae i apologize
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Dude, there both good phones. You cant say that the PHOTON kicks the 3d's ass in every level though. Thats just not true. And I apologize to you for my words.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
U aint finn talk crazy bout no phone either tlkn cum c u its a thousand places n palm beach lol but its just a phone i hope it makes u real happy at night. Lol im done i apologize to u lil dude no need to argue
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
I said the 3d was a good phone i got both but im speaking from testin i dnt think da 3d is wat it should b everyone went n got dem on da strength of the first one n its not livin up 2 da hype blame htc. N da photon is not da greatest either sgs2 ****s on it
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
I don't know what all he said in the article, cause I'm not going to waste my time reading it after seeing some of their past reviews, but I can honestly say my E3D only has one thing wrong with it. The speaker on this thing is an absolute joke. Battery is good, call quality and signal is fine, screen is great when not in direct sunlight, etc. But the quality of the speaker is downright horrible. If there is any background noise what so ever you can't hear it at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
The thing is in 3 months theres gonna be a better phone, then 3 months later a better one, then so on. For me, developers make a phone worth while. Nexus Prime will end all phones when its released.

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
I can't tell if this guy is typing like that on purpose to make his text seem more 'ghettofied' when we read it in our heads or if he just doesn't know how to type.
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Naw i do it cuz i dnt feel like typin da whole word n y does it matter dat aint got nun to do wit wat we talkin bout. Maybe it seems ghettofied to u but dats ur bidness
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
U right about that but i dnt kno bout da nexus prime it depends on who makes it in my opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
The MSM8660 Snapdragon is actually more powerful than the Tegra II. Just because you see a lot of Tegra-optimized games doesn't mean that it's more powerful. If there were Snapdragon-optimized apps, you would see that. Look up the benchmarks.
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Gimme a benchmark where snapdragon out performs tegra 2 i have nexus s , 3d, mopho, n g2x n my g2x out performs all really
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Oh whatever. You don't have all 4 of these phones. You're a tool and you are not cool for typing like an 11yr old.

We aren't impressed with braggers or wannabe bangers who are too cool to take the extra 6seconds it takes to spell out every word in a post like an intelligent bi-ped. So...please...

The stupid, it burns!!
[HTC EVO 3D] derfnoslen:
I agree, just type out the words. Anyway, I think Engadget would have given the EVO 3d a higher rating if it were the EVO 4G+. I think the 3d made it lose 2-3 points, I don't think it's right but still......
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
Lol. I see your a very knowledgeable tech guru
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Damn I hate the way the future is looking. Honestly, you have no business even typing in a forum. I still say these forums need some kind of I.Q. test to get online. It's just sad.....makes me sad for my kids that they are the ones that will have to put up with this nonsense. :RAGEFACE: Probably some 15 y.o. kid who watches way too much tv. Smh.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
Linpack, the only non bias test. My xoom (same specs as mopho) gets ripped up by my 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] Zac95:
IPhone 4 antennae issue. Gtfo apple fanboy
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
I agree.

Snoopy,(geez I can just imagine by your screen name alone) your spelling makes you look unintelligent. I can hear how ghetto you sound as I read your posts lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Me?.... Or the guy I was replying too? Lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
No not you, the guy you were replying to. I should edit and clarify lol.