yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] majorpay:
It's kind of a good idea against the giant corporations, BUT it would eventually lead to further corrupting the already corrupt system. People cannot be trusted with software patents, and neither can corporations (as has been proven).

If software implementations were patentable, we'd all be stuck in 1985.

Hey, look, I wrote this:

for i = 1 to 100

do stuff

next

Now no one else can do it, because I got a patent.

No. There are corporations that have been pulling this crap for decades. Look at the E-Bay "buy it now" issue. It's a prime example of abuse of the system.

Patents need to go away, and so do community design patents (as Apple blatantly proved to us). Copyright your work, sure, but patents were meant to encourage development, but all I've seen for the past decade is it being used to stifle entire communities.

In the software community, there is too broad of a user group. If I do one thing one way, and you just happen to do it the same/similar way, but you patent it, now I have to pay you royalties or lose my entire product. That's a BS system ripe for the picking by patent trolls. You can keep your patent system, tyvm.
[Off-topic] TheRomMistress:
Soo...being a patent attorney, why are you posting this advice to the open source community?
[Off-topic] ftc_osiris:
First, software is patentable and has been for a long long time.

Second, to patent something, it has to be NOVEL and NON-OBVIOUS. The Examiner's at the PTO take these requirements seriously.

Third, if you do something first, I cannot patent it. It is no longer NOVEL (new).
[Off-topic] ftc_osiris:
I am giving this advice because its . . . reasonable advice. I don't want patents to be issued to my clients that are INVALID. Patents are very hard to obtain and if it gets invalidated anyway, (because of prior use of the claimed invention which is discovered later), that is bad for me and my client.

SIRs would provide a better prior art knowledge and might avoid situations in which something does get patented which were just obscure but documented.

Open Sourcers feel they have no way to effect the patent system. This is one way, under current law, that they can.

Also, I am tired of people claiming that patents are issued on things that have been around for forever. Such claims are made constantly but very seldom is there any proof (or even attempts to prove it).

Most things that get patented should be patented. Sometimes things get patented which shouldn't. There will always be stupid exceptions but that is reality.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] bpick:
Hot Damn. Now I have something to do in my team meeting today !!!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] ekoandrew:
Can we get a Stock Yellow?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Turkawa:
That made me laugh hard sir!.

Thank you..
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dean_fx:
Thanks! Giving it a run ;D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Thanks y'all

Possibly. I won't be able to anytime soon because I have a lot more going on right now, but I'll definitely keep it in mind.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Tiger62651:
Very nice. Will this work on Tachi release of tiamat? Be nice to get blue also. Good job.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Tachi is a Kernel, so yes it will .. It will not work on the MantaRay ROM however, only HammerHead
[Xoom Themes and Apps] BLAQK ROXSTAR:
You plan on porting stock grey as well?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
It'll be an overhaul as well, but yes I do plan on putting StockGrey on the new systems.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated!

Two new mods: MobileUA Mod to turn your UAstring back to Mobile (some apps need this or perform better with it), and StockRed Icon Pack v1.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dean_fx:
Screenshot from holding down the window switcher icon doesn't work after you flash StockGreen.

Amazing theme though. Continue to use it regardless ;-)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Did you go to Settings > Screen > Enable Screen Capture ?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dean_fx:
That....would do the trick now wouldn't it.

::facepalm::

lol thanks
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
haha, no problem!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated!!

Added the new and completely overhauled StockGrey for Tiamat HammerHead 2.1.0. Everything is the same as StockRed and Green, just Grey.

If you have any problems or questions just let me know.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] philski421:
how can i go back to stock when the time comes?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
Reflash the Rom

Sent from my Evo3D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
+1 .. I don't think it's in the Rom's updater script to wipe, so you should be good. I haven't flashed it in a while tho. If it does wipe, let me know and I'll create a back to stock for ya.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
Good **** Bazar
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Brenardo:
I think the grey is the way it should have shipped... awesome work dude!

I
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Thanks y'all
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP UPDATED!

Added StockGreen and StockGrey Icon Packs v1.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
^nice!!

Sent from my Evo3D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Genshard:
noob question i know but i'm new to theming

Sorry to be noob but how do I use the icon pack, the green theme is great (especially love the keyboard effect) but how do I use the icons coz they rawk?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
You can use apps such as Desktop Visualizer or Circle Launcher. Download and unzip the icon packs, set up your widgets with the app, and select the widget to use the specific icon you select.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] philski421:
can you make a zip to go back to blue? I dont't want to flash my backup
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
I'm not able to until tomorrow... in the meantime you should be able to reflash the Rom and be good, I don't think it wipes.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Added the BackToStock Theme for HammerHead in the regular downloads section.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Brenardo:
I would like to see a deep "crown royal" purple if you get a chance...

I am still loving the grey btw but I am itching to change to something new to try out.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
That would be dope!!!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] tonemand:
I was pretty bummed - running a Wi-Fi 3.2 (rooted stock kernel) and applied the red theme. When I booted from CWM recovery, I saw the sweet red unlock image, but after unlocking, I got FCs on literally every process that started up after. Restored from the original backup, applied the yellow theme, and same result. Restored from original backup, and have just settled for the stock theme, which is a bummer, cause I ran unrooted until I saw how awesome these themes looked, but I can't even get to the desktop with all the FC messages spamming me. I'll have to putz around and see why I am running into this. I am sure it is something simple... like user error :-/
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Sort of like this? http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/bazar6-themes/8175-theme-stockpurple-little-gold-3-1-a.html

I haven't began the porting yet, but I've got a purple, just need to bring it up to date. Added to the very long list already lol.

Not sure where you got the Yellow theme from... But it sounds like you're not on the HammerHead ROM, which you have to have flashed first. For the time being, I don't have anything available on the stock system for 3.2. Sorry dude.

If you want to flash the HammerHead Rom (found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1203635) then you'd be able to flash any of these. If you go this route, let me know how it turns out, but it definitely sounds like that's whats wrong.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] tonemand:
Wow, yeah, big fail on my part there. I just had the rooted stock setup, but went ahead and got the Hammerhead 2.1 ROM (I noticed when applying your .zip, it SAYS in the ID lines "Hammerhead 2.1", so a big ಠ_ಠ for me there), then applied the red theme, and I am sitting nice now. Thanks for the info! Also, I mean green and somehow in my failure, typed in yellow. Of course, a yellow theme would be pretty cool - lol!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
lol ok just making sure. Glad you're up and running.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
Cant wait!!!!!

You working on that stockn green for Moray rom?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Yes I am.. it'll be here Monday or Tuesday.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
Ur a good man...

Sent from my Evo3D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Aphex33:
Awesome bro....will you be releasing a gray theme for moray 2.2 as well? Looks amazing!!!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Gonna try to get green added tonight, if not then tomorrow. I don't have an ETA on grey yet, and with a possibility of 2.2.1 coming soon, I may not port it for 2.2.0.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated!!

Added support to StockRed and StockGreen for Tiamat Moray Rom! Also added 6 mods for each theme, NoClock and MobileUA for the stock theme, as well as alternate icon versions bringing back the UOT Kitchen Circle Battery Icons and AOSP wifi/3G signal images. Different packages available due to the combinations of mods.

If you have any problems, please let me know. StockGrey is not available for Moray at the time, only HammerHead.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
good looks Bazar... much appreciated
[Xoom Themes and Apps] scramer:
Originally Posted by Bazar617

Sort of like this? http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/baza...old-3-1-a.html

I haven't began the porting yet, but I've got a purple, just need to bring it up to date. Added to the very long list already lol.

+1! Would love it in purple.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Saintfyre:
Any update on if these are or will be compatible w/ 2.2.1? I'm a huge fan of the Red Theme.

Thank you!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] matguard:
Remember: Backup is your friend, but I did install this on my Xoom... I am running 2.2.1 and everything went smoothly.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] stlsaint:
Compatible

As matguard stated above i also am running moray 2.2.1 on a 3G and i installed the StockRed with no issues!!:cool:

Although i would not recommend the icon pack only due to the major difference in size of the icons (alot smaller than native icons) unless you go with something like DVRImageCrop add for Desktop Visualizer or any other way. I just stick with theme for now until optimized icon pack! None the less it is worth it!!!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] DRTMI:
How did you change the color of the clock?:p
[Xoom Themes and Apps] xBlackDroid:
i use this on 2.2.1 and works normal
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dccrens:
Other than doing a backup and restore, is there anyway to reverse the changes back to the standard Moray? I would like to try all the colors. Red looks super. Great work on this.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Sorry y'all, have been out of town and up to my neck in work. This is not optimized for 2.2.1, however I'm glad those who have flashed it said that it worked. The only thing that is different is that you probably are not running the new shut down screen that was brought in on 2.2.1 (since the theme uses the files from 2.2.0), I will be updating them soon, Red is pretty much finished but green and grey may take a while. I'm not sure if Solarnz has something cooking up with this 3.2.1 OTA that came thru, if Tiamat isn't then I'll have something soon.

In regards to going back to stock, the easiest way to go back to the stock color without doing a CWM restore is to simply reflash the Tiamat Moray Rom. There's no script in it to format anything, so you won't lose any data (it is always recommended to backup before you flash anything tho, because sh*t does happen, and I nor Team Tiamat are responsible for that).
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated!

StockRed 4.2 is up and running for Tiamat Moray 2.2.1
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
Preciate it!

Sent from my Evo3D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Green and Grey Updated to 4.2 for Tiamat's MORAY 2.2.1

Mods will be listed and linked in a few minutes.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] teitiel:
Are you going to make an update for Tiamat v2.2.2, or can we flash the one with framework from 2.2.1?
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
I am going to make an update to 2.2.2.

If you did flash it right now, I believe you will not run in to any problems, however, you won't have a lot of the fixes from the newest ROM (essentially you'll be going back to 2.2.1)... An update shouldn't be far out, just been extremely busy with priorities recently.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
StockRed updated to 4.3 for Tiamat Moray 2.2.2 - NoClock Mod available as an add-on.

Green and Grey won't be too much longer.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] xBlackDroid:
Thnx a lot men.

its possible the green 2.2.2 theme?

you do an awesome work!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
thx bazar

Sent from my Evo3D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated!

Green updated to Tiamat 2.2.2. NoClock Mod and Ice Cream Sandwhich Analog clock available as flashable add-ons.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated with StockGrey 4.3 for Tiamat 2.2.2

NoClock and ICSclock available.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
OP Updated for StockRed on Stock OS 3.2.2 (4G Xooms).

Quick Controls are standard color in browser due to issues I was having with the resources.arsc.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] PAulyhoffman:
Heres hoping for a red EOS version! 4.03
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
Do it bazar...
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Finatti:
Can I use this rom in my MZ605?????????
[Xoom Themes and Apps] PAulyhoffman:
+1 -plus one
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
Eventually... at the moment, hell no lol. Creating themes for a Rom that changes nightly requires time I do not have. Sorry y'all. I will get my themes to ICS once the Roms start becoming more solid and not updated/changed so often.

This is just a theme for the Tiamat Moray 2.2.2 or 2.3.0 Rom. If you successfully got one of those Roms to work on your 605, then the corresponding theme will work for it.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] purity0flove:
very nice one
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Finatti:
Nicee :-)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] PAulyhoffman:
EOS stable 1.0? pretty please? RED!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] ali29185:
+1 Black n White please...
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Lostpassword:
I think that the red theme is absolutely AWESOME, man would be great if in the future we'll get a compatible version for team eos ICS rom.

Do you think it's possible? (i'm unable to port it)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
They will be coming to ICS soon, for both CM9 and EOS/other AOSP based Roms. Just gotta sit down and do it. I'll keep y'all posted.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] PAulyhoffman:
Yes, RED is the most beautiful thing to happen to my xoom....

thanks for the work! can't wait to run it!
[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
good **** Bazar... cant wait
[Xoom Themes and Apps] ionSeven:
argghh I want the red for team EOS ics like yesterday, can't wait...sorry I'm impatient. keep up the great work :-)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] otis_bartleh:
That red is awesome! Just got a sweet red theme going on my gnex, really looking forward to it on the Xoom... :D
[Xoom Themes and Apps] PAulyhoffman:
plus one (+1)
[Xoom Themes and Apps] jph1282:
Used your themes on honeycomb can't wait for one on ics on my xoom. Thanks for the good work.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] JLansing:
Thanks for doing this.

Hey, I've been using this theme for a few months now. I just got on to check and see if there was one for ICS. xD I'm getting much better at working with my tablet and will be helping out around the site with what I can. Thanks again and I look forward to testing out the ICS version whenever you have the time to create it! :D Thanks again.
[Xoom Themes and Apps] Bazar617:
redICS is found here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24729062

greenICS is found here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24729274

Grey is coming soon, along with support for EOS (CM9 only for the moment).

I'll update the OP tomorrow to point there for ICS themes.

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[Xoom Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
much appreciated bazar

sent from my sgs2e4gt
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
So I was and always have been an admitted flashaholic.. for the eye candy, the customization, the things you can't do on stock (non-root) such as tethering and such. I tried GB early on, too buggy, was happy with Froyo. More recently I flashed Synergy and am pretty happy but really beginning to question whether or not going back to stock is just the best way to go. The Netflix and Skype are cool but honestly don't use 'em all that often. Assuming I could still tether on stock and rooted, I just may do that.

I can't be alone here. I imagine many of you have gone back for battery life, less bugginess, etc. What are your thoughts, am I alone in this? If I'm not, why did you revert and what benefits do you see by doing so?
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
Not trying to sound like a smart ass...don't take it that way.

But I'd love to hear of someone going back to stock for better battery life.

That's one of the top reasons to root and ROM your phone. Fat and services not needed go bye bye...
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
Couldn't you still swap kernel tho on a stock rom? That was just an example and even if you were being a smartass it wouldn't bother me any. Here to learn man, here to learn. I have not experimented with my TB like I did my old WinMo phones, still a bit intimidated honestly.
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
Don't be intimidated. They're simple.

Keep a good backup plan.

You can't change ROMs or Kernals that I know of without root access.
[Thunderbolt General] 00negative:
Sounds like he is staying rooted just using rooted stock build, so he can still tether

I use the stock rooted froyo rom quit a bit still. Aosp is still work in progress although has come a long way and there hasnt really been a Verizon GB leak for the TB that is even close to a release build quality, Chingys is closest currently but only offered modded so far.
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
Try DroidTh3ory's AOSP build.

Damn near flawless.

He mentioned stock build non-root...so I thought that's where he was going...
[Thunderbolt General] mattrb:
My front camera does not work and the back camera stops working after a few uses. I then need to restart.

My question is, are there any GB Sense/AOSP roms that work well with the front and/or back camera?
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
Had no issue with Synergy, BAMF or DroidTh3ory ROMs when it comes to camera(s).
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
Yeah, would definitely stay rooted for tether but otherwise, the stock software is like 100% flawless, no glitches or hang ups whatsoever. If I'm not having wierd radio issues with most the GB roms, my MMS isn't the same, or overall the phone just feels more sluggish.
[Thunderbolt General] Stumpsalot:
My battery life was just horrible with the stock. Once CM7 was stable enough to run as my daily driver I went to it. No issues at all and it runs just as smooth as the stock.
[Thunderbolt General] Wiseblood:
Back to Stock

My first TB was rooted and flashed with a variety of Froyo roms. I was constantly tweaking it and fiddling with it. But I dropped and busted it.

My replacement unit (from Geek Squad) arrived but I didn't have the spare time to root and flash. Then MR2 came.

Now, other than a modest improvement to my battery life, rooting and flashing really holds no benefit to me. I use EasyTether for tethering; it works just fine for me. Everything else . . . Just works.

Maybe after GB I might root . . . But only if I can gain some new functionality.
[Thunderbolt General] 00negative:
Sadly what works for some doesn't for others and some only notice it due to how they use their phone. Like on AOSP roms I have issues with missing calls and low in-call volume and network location. I haven't had as many issues on GB releases other than some messed up time stamps on SMS and small annoyances like that. I can get a full day on current froyo build and everything works.

I say run what works best for you that is why we are all rooted, so we have a choice just as we would on our computers or whatever.
[Thunderbolt General] MisterDonut:
benefit is that you have no warranty issue. if you s-on
[Thunderbolt General] cmhfdisker:
+1

Running rooted MR2 debloated. Everything just works. My gut feeling tells me we're in the "salad days" of the Thunderbolt right now. The MR2 release is that good.

Gingerbread will come soon and bring with it a host of problems just like it has when it was released on every other phone. I'm only rooted now so that I can stick with my current setup and ride out the GB release and subsequent fixes until it reaches a similar state of maturity.

MR2 has made the 'bolt a great phone. Yes, battery life could be better but the only fix there is a bigger battery (like the 1900mAh batt in the upcoming Bionic).
[Thunderbolt General] justavillain:
even if you go back to stock at least leave it rooted so that way you can always go back to flashing if you wanted. once you get the newest OTA you're locked in to the stock ROM till it get cracked.(if it hasn't already I'm rooted so I didn't pay too much attention to that)
[Thunderbolt General] kevenrivera:
I really cant think of a reason to go back to stock.

Ive been following droidtheory's roms, and he is a genius.

If u can live without sense, his latest aosp build is just amazing. No probelms whatsoever on my end (cam/skype/tether/sms/vids/gps/calls)

And battery life ia exceptional.

Honestly, imo, stock has got absolutely nothing on DT.
[Thunderbolt General] 00negative:
You could of at least not been so blatant about what you were doing, could of said anything about topic
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
if you did not root your replacement TB, how are you using easytether? Doesn't it require root?
[Thunderbolt General] eraste:
You say no cam issues? I have found that a big one for me... got an 8mp cam but flash some Rom's and loose quality! Lol I'm a noob
[Thunderbolt General] sir2545:
Every one of the ROMs seems to have something wrong with it and I got tired of dealing with it.

Bamf was just overloaded and seemed sluggish, text messages came in with the wrong timestamp.

CM7 was chewing up the battery in standby. It gets old fast, and having to set up all those accounts all the time is a nuisance.

I'm with ya bro, running stock debloated and have zero issues and Im getting great battery life.
[Thunderbolt General] Wiseblood:
EasyTether does not need your device to be rooted. And, because it's wired, it's very stable. No muss, no fuss, no WEP, no WiFi.
[Thunderbolt General] rt1168:
+1. DT's rom has been great. Everything working and no problems.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
i see zero reason and or benefits to going back to stock.
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
ok, cool. Was not sure on that.
[Thunderbolt General] JBO1018:
I have to agree with this. All going back to stock would do for me is limit the amount of customizations and added features. Especially with the Thunderbolt because it's stock builds are not as stable as the stock builds on other phones usually are.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] timothymilla:
Yep a while back when the basically all the roms just plain sucked (not just battery life, I needed a functioning adb) I did go back to stock for better well... everything. Eventually, the cm7 got better and I'm running that now.
[Thunderbolt General] Grnlantern79:
Stock?

I to see no reason to return to stock I have had the best battery life since I switch to TH3ORY's ROM, he will be missed while he is on leave. God Bless his mom. But when you can use your phone for 11 hours and still have 63% left of moderate use (email, phone calls, text, internet, XDA/Rootzwiki App,Yelp). I will not be switching ROMs till TH3ORY comes back so I can update :)