yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
Should be set correctly by the code in the kernel (sysfs interface).

Will need to investigate the details of the setting.

Will be one of the choices in Aroma.

With hardswap a must, with zram, don't know, I have no real experience using zram, without any of them, makes no difference since there will be no swap.

Will need to investigate the details of the setting.

Will need to investigate the details of the setting.

Will need to investigate the details of the setting. But I believe setting this to something else than 0 mght very well trigger Rosie restarts, since it's likely "the task that triggered the out-of-memory condition". And in general, that task often will be the forground task I think...

Considering Android LMK, I'm not certain this actually will have any impact, but ... ?

I will look into this, but that will only be next week, unfortunately...

JP.

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Hmm ... 99z_kernel will be executed after 99z_autokill :o

Rename it to something like "99z_z_autokill" ...

I didn't chose 99z by accident :D

JP.
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
I'm sorry yank was that last reply supposed to be to me? I was jitsu wondering I'd using that script would cause an issue since I don't use hardswap.
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
Oops, sorry actually not, it was for the post by hinxnz you were replying to ;) He renamed the script but it would still not be executed last.

Well settings swappiness without using any swap, won't matter much, as for the other settings, can't tell off hand, will have to look into the details of those settings first.

If you use zram, setting swappiness to 100 (instead of default 60) will have an impact, as zram will be used more intensively, but will that be good or bad, can't tell as I'm not a zram user :o

JP.
[HTC Sensation] Saml01:
I have a fairly easy question.

How much total ram should android report if Zram and hardswap are disabled?

OR

Does the total stay the same(currently 578mb) and instead total unused increases?

Thanks.
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
Total ram is irrelevant. As long as you have 80+ remaining for android, everything will be fine.
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
Yank a question for us.

In the aroma installer for the intellidemand settings it says two phase freq must be less than interactive max but for faux stock settings they are both the same. Is it okay having the values the same?

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
Even if you chose the same values in Aroma, the script generator will use one level below inactive max for two_phase. That complies with what faux said after going through the governor code, so I applied exactly his conclusion.

JP.

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zram and hardswap (which both are in fact swap put on different media), will never show up as RAM, they are swap space. To see the swap space (total, used and free) you need to open a terminal and type "free".

Memory pages put to swap will be freed in RAM, so the part that is used in swap is actually the amount of RAM freed through swapping.

JP.
[HTC Sensation] The Illest 619:
On viper s Rom there's a minfree manager built in to adjust these values... Eventhough I have higher values set in 98swap would viper roms built in manager override these values?

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
I was wondering the same thing. Is there any way to check?
[HTC Sensation] ajay83:
Hi there people.

Just wanted to ask, below are my minfree settings in sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters etc... in minfree file.

6348,8089,9830,11878,13619,16793

I went back from beta 12 back to 008b8v5 as this always runs smooth for me. The latest betas also erased any leftovers from other kernals.I also keep the minfree setting in venom tweaks as stock, and have applied the governor settings as recently suggested by faux.

Just wondered out of curiosity whether these numbers are the norm? Not having any problems, just wondered lol
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
Very likely, these can be overriden, the last wins.

To check the current values you can use System Tuner.

JP.
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
Better battery with 008b8

I'm using currently Yank555 1.81 kernel which is based on Faux 008b8 with Elegancia Blitz 2.7 Sense 3.6

With later betas I got less battery life, nevertheless 008b12 was the smoothest of all but with that one I barely got more than 3 hours of screen time.

Anyways Faux's kernels in general has been smoothest of all for me.

With b8 I get easy more than 4 hours. I got almost 5 hours of screen time once, when I first installed 008b8 (I was using a senseless option of Elegancia). Currently I am using sense.

The clock keeps ticking and currently have 4h25mins of screen time. The airplane mode is because in the office there is no signal but I use Wifi instead. But that's a constant pattern of use for me.
[HTC Sensation] design12:
I have a question regarding the i/O schedulers. Which one is better? The bfq scheduler or the cfq one? Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
There is no best in general, there is a best depending on your use...

I believe this is a good reading on the topic so you can make up your mind :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25587909

It's covering governors as well.

JP.
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
hi guys,

@yank

here is a little something for you , your are a great contributor, very active and trying to help ppl.

so i'm very glad to offer you a drink, beer or coffee ,you choose !:p

confirmation : 9TJ76965GR433890F

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@faux

here is a coffee for you , to keep your eyes open to continue development of your kernel. :cool:

confirmation : 8LB972143E623951G
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
Thank you very much... Greatly appreciated! :highfive:
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
i tried once more b13 with agressive profile but nothing changes, i still have memory problems.

i am not experimented enough to try other things if i don't have a procedure or check list to follow.

still a noob in that kernel stories. :eek:

i'm very sad about it but tweaking memories don't work for me, i tried 3 profiles. medium, agressive, very agressive. and stil dropping at 60 mo.

well, i have to revert to b8 but yann did you make a aroma version with gpu overclock at 300 and not 320 ?

if yes , would you be kind enough to link me the filedownload please ?

thanks
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
I also tried that and would still lose ram, got as low as 58mb and almost froze before I could get task manager open. Try as I might I'm stuck at b8 which is not all that bad as the kernel works great
[HTC Sensation] zooster:
With b13 I've again the issue of the freq stuck at the inactive one (I chose 1.13)...
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
The LMK min free settings will get overwritten with venom tweaks setting found in settings.db that is placed in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/ to open or edit it you need a app like Root Explorer with the add-on SQLite Editor, can be done on PC with a similar program also. If you open settings.db, its located under system and if you scroll down you will see the record for tweaks_minfree as shown in screenshot. Beware that you need to do a nandroid backup before you edit this file!

Edit: No need to edit min free settings here, created a init.d script HERE that overrides this..
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
The lag issues returned for me with b13 as well. No logs as I've had to do battery pulls
[HTC Sensation] The Illest 619:
Nice info. I'm using the multitasking extreme setting and everything seems real smooth now and ram stays a little above 100mb all the time. Think ill just let venom tweaks do its thing.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] lackdog:
Earlier i posted in viperS thread that i just did a fresh install with newest faux8 kernal and everything was great. Then iy got mad lag. Like click something and walk away and when u came back it might be opened. Lol. I did what you said above in quoted text and rebooted. So far everything is running so smooth. Like night and day. Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Catpoule:
i'm going to test your file too .... will report back. thanks

edit : did not wok for me ....
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
Great :)

................................

Just notice that the script init.rc overwrites the oom_kill_allocating_task to 0, just leave it like that though as you not having problems now :)
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
Kernel 008 is official... it is EXACTLY identical to Beta 13... so if you have it installed already... NO NEED to update.
[HTC Sensation] X46X:
Thanks faux :good:
[HTC Sensation] stevocz:
what is new in version 006, 007 and 008? thanks
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
Hi faux!

Sorry for the confusion but isn't EVERYTHING currently available Kernel 008? And all the different ones are betas of that? So when you say "so if you have it installed already..." which version do you mean exactly? I think most people are reverting back to b8 finding that to consume the least amount of resources I'm guessing....

I too was hopeful but I am finding that my phone lags with the newest beta. RAM gets down to 40MB....but not always. Strange. Sometimes works fine...sometimes lags like crazy and when I check, the free RAM is super low.

I'll try to let is "settle" some more (been on it for 2 days now but heard should give a new kernel at least 3 days to settle).

I'm hopeful but if in the mean time someone can figure out why some of us are getting the lag that would be awesome, cuz other than that, i love the kernel!

Thanks for all your hard work!!!
[HTC Sensation] TheUntouchable:
Faux posted already the answer, 8b13 is the official release of 008 now. The most people are reverting back to 8b8 because there was a change in the memory managment which causes on vipers for example problems with low memory. But it seems its fixable with other minfree settings.
[HTC Sensation] X46X:
Faux mean 008 b13 :cool:
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
Have you tried a modified services.jar? 'the illest 619' edited one

here

:)
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
Oh okay. I was confused because if you read his post, that's NOT what he said...it may be that's what he meant...but definitely not what he said. He said v008 was official and that b13 was equivalent...and that if you have b13 you didn't need to upgrade...but how can you upgrade when b13 is the latest? See how the wording sounds confusing? :confused:

Maybe it's just me but because of how it was worded, I didn't understand.

I hope that is what faux really meant and not just your interpretation. Thanks for taking the time to reply though.
[HTC Sensation] X46X:
If you have 008b13, you don't need upgrade because 008b13=008 stable
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
Hi,

just to clear things up, faux's kernel vesioning goes like this :

00x -> latest stable official version (say 007)

00yb1 -> first beta for the next version (would be 008 in our example)

00yb... -> (in our case, 008b13 is the last and latest)

If that vesion is deemed fine by faux, that will then become the next stable official vesrion (in our case 008)

So a 00xby is

always

a prior beta version on the way to the stable official 00x kernel.

Hope this is not too confusing, I'd hate add any more confusion ;)

JP.

PS: Since 008b13 is 008, I'll skip making an Aroma for now, we'll see where we are when I get back next week ;)
[HTC Sensation] zedrix53:
Is the 008u same as 008b8?
[HTC Sensation] TheUntouchable:
NO, 008u=008b13, 008b8=008b8
[HTC Sensation] zedrix53:
Im seing 008u and 008b13 so there booth thesame?

Another question for you im seing your sig are not having some lag?
[HTC Sensation] TheUntouchable:
Yes, the final version of 008 is the same as 008b13, as stated by faux previously :)

Indeed i am experience lags after some time even with hardswap, but at the moment i am testing it with other freemin settings and it seems to get better ;)
[HTC Sensation] sp5it:
I tested b13 for a few days, was laggy. Went back to b12. ARHD 6.7.2

Mike
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
Care to post your edited services.jar? I don't have a way to do that right now
[HTC Sensation] piimp:
Previous page, he linked to one

Sent by my feau gee
[HTC Sensation] snake4fun:
I use b13 yank version and have no lags.

Gesendet von meinem HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Sensation] Incanity:
me neither. Works like a charm.:good:
[HTC Sensation] xtcislove:
aosp? :(
[HTC Sensation] GuerillaTech:
Faux doesn't make his own aosp kernel anymore, but he has helped with this one that is still being updated.

http://files.tamcore.eu/android/?dir=tamcore-kernel
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
Hi Yank!

Thank you for the concise and clear response. I appreciate it!

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Got it! Thanks!!! :)
[HTC Sensation] Stephen:
Hi what are the diferences between the two kernels?

008b13 Aroma Download link

Yank555.lu v2.3 Aroma Download link

Are both 8b13 based? I am just tring to figure out if I have the most up to date download. It is getting hard to know were the latest downloads are!!!

Edit: just read the post above by yank and still a little confused. I know that the 8b13 is still a beta kernel but not sure which of the above two to use!
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Any one have link or zip file yank555 v004 or v005 please much appreciated thanks in advance.
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
yes, only difference is that my GPU is @ 320 and Yank's @ 300 (20 Mhz difference ;) ) Also b13 == official
[HTC Sensation] Stephen:
That has cleared it up a lot thanks! :)
[HTC Sensation] Yank555:
Faux 008b13 had GPU OC 320MHz, Yank's 2.3 has 300MHz, that's to only difference ! Make your choice depending on how high you want to OC your GPU.

JP.

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You should bookmark this post, from there you will find every version since Aroma :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29072369

JP.

PS: I suppose you are looking for 008b8 v5 ...
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Sorry to be a pest or act like a noob and please understand that I respect your work. I am currently on Elegancia Rom sense 4 2.7.0 I have did a complete wipe and sd card format with bricked kernel that is baked in the rom my phone doesn't heat up. But with your newer version and Sebastian kernels my phone had excessive heat gain not complaining or anything, but when I used your original kernels I didn't suffer with phone heating up and less mystery glitches I also know I could have done poorly using AROMA configuration settings which I am sure that is the problem. But sir if you could be so kind could you please post or place a zip for this kernel http://faux.androidro.ms/Pyramid-ICS-sense-008b4.zip I would much appreciate it thanks for your response and for your work. Thank you so much in advance.

You should bookmark this post, from there you will find every version since Aroma :

http://xdaforums.com/show...php?p=29072369

JP.

PS: I suppose you are looking for 008b8 v5 ...

S
[HTC Sensation] faux123:
All of my older kernels can be found here: http://faux.androidro.ms/archive/
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Thank you so much.
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
I'm in the same boat as philseven I'm afraid. Love the kernel and fully appreciate all the hard work that faux and Yank put into this but today on b13, my phone got so hot it locked up then rebooted on it's own. Since I'm also on Elegancia Sense 4 2.7.0 I'm wondering if that ROM just doesn't like something about this kernel. Like philseven, on the baked in kernel (Bricked) my phone ran pretty cool.

philseven, have you found b4 to work with the Elegancia ROM better?
[HTC Sensation] johnnyham89:
Hey guys. I'm using Faux's v008 kernel on Mike's ARHD 6.7.2. The problem I'm having is that the softkeys no longer vibrate as well as when I long press the home screen to bring up wallpapers/widgets. What's weird is that the haptic keyboard vibrates. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] chassy_8o9:
was using 008b8_v5 with aroma, just one word "flawless" work. now update it to 008b13 with aroma and no issues of any kind... just reporting! thanks faux/yank for this awesome work! my benchmark:
[HTC Sensation] Marusaia:
Hello,

Just switch to Faux 8b13 and comming from Bricked 1.4, my temp is too low.

It's 24°c out and my phone says he is at 15.5°c.

How can i correct this?

Thanks.
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
I really wish I could help you but currently I am at a lost tried b4 and lost wifi so had to wipe and start all over just going to stick with brick apologize for not being able to help.
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
If you are on sense 4 you need to use b8 or above for the fixed WiFi.

Version 008 is now out of beta stage too if you missed some earlier posts :)

Sent from my HTC Sensation with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
008b4 will never work with sense 4. Support for sense 4 started on beta 8

From rootzwiki change log:

[ build 8 ] Added Sense 4.0 WiFi support

from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app
[HTC Sensation] zooster:
Reverted back to b12, b13 lags a lot for me
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
Update to the script I uploaded earlier :)

If anyone interested I updated the init.d script I created...

-Removed/edited some codes.

-Fixed Min Free setting that was overridden by Venom tweaks.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55494910/Venom_autokill/99z_z_autokill

Edit: If the download link not working right, HERE :good:
[HTC Sensation] chassy_8o9:
just need to flash or what?
[HTC Sensation] TheUntouchable:
You have to put this into /etc/init.d/ on your phone
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
/system/etc/init.d/ :good: set permissions to the same as other scripts in there, then reboot.
[HTC Sensation] TheUntouchable:
On vipers there is a symlink in the root directory for etc :)
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
Just curious, aren't those values the same as the stock lmk values already?
[HTC Sensation] ganeshp:
nope the values are number of blocks .. if you want to calculate the memory you should multiply it with 4 ..that will give you lmk values :)
[HTC Sensation] abelov00:
Flashed kernel v13 and having cpu freq. stuck on 918 Mhz! With b008v5 didn't have such issue. I remember that faux wrote about that: intellidemand inactive freq must be the same as intellidemand active and max cpu freq, or am i wrong???

Dear Yank555 could you please fix it???

Sensation XE -> Rom: ARHD 6.7.2
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
That is incorrect, inactive should be higher than active. Yank's aroma script automatically corrects the values if you select them wrong. Sounds like you may have something else wrong, try flashing again.
[HTC Sensation] ajay83:
Im afraid that's wrong too buddy.

phase2<inactiveMAX<activeMAX = SCALING MAX.

Active MAX------------------------------------------------ is your max frequency

INACTIVE-------------------------------------------------- should be 'lower' than active max

Phase2-------------------------------------------------------should be 'lower' than inactive max
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
You're right, that's what I had meant to say. Thanks for correcting.

On another note, tried the script posted earlier and it still has no effect on lmk. I am currently lagging at 63mb of ram with b13
[HTC Sensation] ajay83:
NO worries bud.

I'm having the EXACT same problem. LMK script in not sticking after reboot and values are as STOCK in venom tweaks.

I places file in system/etc/init.d and gave permissions the same as other files there. no luck tho. I'm sticking with Faux 008b8v5 as this still ends up working best for me.
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
+1 on everything you just said
[HTC Sensation] abelov00:
Thanks will try!!! Actually i've reflashed several times, even didn't change in settings anything, but........
[HTC Sensation] chassy_8o9:
For those who have had problems with version 008b13, patience is the best ally. I present all these problems that have been reported and only after at least 5 volunteers reboots and removing the battery a few times, clean Cahe / Dalvik and fixed permissions, showed no lag or excessive use of memory and I have not had to change anything from the kernel, i dont even know how to use sytem tuner. I do not think my phone is more special than yours. in fact, all the problems took like 2 days and now are at least 5 days without any type of problems. I hope that helps. excellent work by developers.

Sended from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
Strange, I don't see how it is overridden seeing the script makes the values read only once set by script. Does any of your init.d scripts execute on boot? Did you try the updated script I uploaded? The values in the script are not stock and they can't be adjusted that high with the tweaks. Also the min free tweak in venom won't be able to adjust those values as the file will be read only.

Sent from my HTC Sensation with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] Tinchoska:
Hey guys can you please share me faux's aosp/aokp kernel? Thanks indica advance

Enviado desde mi Sensation usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC Sensation] ajay83:
Hello bud. Sorry for late reply.

I understand what you're saying.

Only scripts in my init.d folder are: 40ext4tweaks, 98checksettings, 99complete and 99z_kernal. Im running kernal 008b8_v5. After first having placed the script in this folder and setting permissions to:-'rwx r-x r-x' I can see that the values in sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters in minfree have changed to your values. But upon reboot it's gone and values are left as stock again.

I haven't changed any other settings in tweaks or anywhere else. I initially tried your script on b13 and it didn't work, so have reverted back to 008b8v5 and tried there with no luck either. 008b8 always keeps me above 100mb RAM no matter how hard I push it and seems to clear background processes alot quicker for me personally than the others. Just wondering whether some of the new stuff from the later betas could be included in linux 3.0.3.8 in b008b8 as alot of people keep going back? No biggy tho, just wondering.

Thanks for your help anyway tho, very much appreciated. Also many thanks to both Faux and Yank too.
[HTC Sensation] chrisrj28:
Once again +1 on what this man has said, I would like to see the changes from the later betas included in b8 (minus the new base causing the memory issues). Is this possible faux?

I just don't understand why the lmk in the later betas allows so much ram to be eaten up.
[HTC Sensation] typci:
Thanks for the kernal. It's been working great.

However, I can't seem to get hardswap to work. I used MiniTool to create a 512MB primary linux swap partition and the end of the SD card, but typing "free" in terminal just shows "0" for swap. Tried creating a partition via CWM, still doesn't work. Tried re-flashing the kernal, and tried the "Hard swap v2.3" file by Yank555. 98swap and 99z_kernal are in the init.d folder. During kernal install it says it found and formated swap partition. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
Yank, can be the led multiplier a source of problems for the memory issues since that was also included in 008b9 and later. Just wondering....
[HTC Sensation] d.kuyt:
It's because of 3.0.39, which changed the RAM management stuff as I know....

Send from my Sensation powered by ViperSs 1.1.0 + yank555.lu kernel v1.81 (faux 008b8 based)
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
That has been said earlier, but I am not so sure that's the only reason, because I see low memory in Yanks 1.81 kernel, based on 008b8 but with led modifier. Just a bullet in the dark, but worth looking at it. I have seen my last_ksmg and probably coincidence but lowmem condition after led logs.

I am not the expert but I like to find differences and not only the obvious ones...
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
anyone getting really bad battery life on lightning ROM using the yank editions of b8 kernel?

I always use lower settings then the default settings by yank.