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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bengl:
I feel really bad for the android fans in Europe. I have used in the last year 4 tablets (including IPAD2) and I love my galaxy. with exception of the connectivity its the best imho. I got it for $395. Hope that this court ruling gets thrown out so the android community can grow and all the great work you guys do here. IPAD is for simple people, Android tablets are for functional people
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jnn1:
Wow ... this is eye opening. I knew Apple was better at repacking and selling tech (hardware and software) to the masses than actually inventing them (of course Sammy is little good as well, except some innovations in screen and memory tech maybe), but this nails it for this particular court case which was about the community dock design infringement. Either the German judge is biased or Sammy's lawyers are incompetent. Of course, the real victims are again us customers. Glad I'm not in EU right now.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Here's another twist, with CDE and a window manager looking like MS Windows.

And here's another standard CDE shot, but with the dock fully visible:

Not only that, but OS/2 also had it in PM/2 / WPS.

Warp 3.0:

Warp 4.0:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gdmuscle:
So pissed I hate Apple so much it makes me puke

Apple needs to go under, they should look over those patents and check to see if they are actually valid or not. They are so broad that it just about covers every single flat, retangle, touch screen device out there. These judges are bunch of morons who probably don't have a clue on some of the technical writing in patents they just pass judgement without examing the true facts. First of why don't they notice that Apple all of a sudden got off their easy chair soon as the Android devices took off and starting selling millions? Isn't it fishy enough for the lawyers to catch that?

I really hope Apple loses get their asses kicked and their products banned.

Here's an idea, Samsung should use their new Flexible Plastic AMOLED screens and make a phone that is flexible enough to wrap around your wrist. A phone that has a screen rollable from a cylinder shaped device, then patent the tech. Then make a unbreakable Flexible Plastic AMOLED screened tablet so thin Crapple would have a hard time copying, then ban anyone from using their tech and keep Crapple away from their display technology. Samsung has a very large RND department and I think they can come up with tons of ways to beat Apple at their own game. Samsung went back to the drawing board when the Ipad2 came out and less than a few months had something thinner and lighter than the Ipad2. If Samsung can churn out devices this quickly imagine what they can design and create in a years time with their resources.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] capufo:
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apple is such a two face. On one hand they buy their products vrom samsung and on the other hand they sue everyone even samsung. Samsung should stop providing materials to apple.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GCurry:
Them that can't compete, sue.

Microsoft and Apple both stole liberally from Xerox. Tablets, aka DynaBook, was even conceptualized there, by Alan Kay, in 1968.

http://www.edibleapple.com/from-alan-kays-dynabook-to-the-apple-ipad/

Obviously, Apple couldn't compete in chips against Intel, in operating systems against Microsoft, nor in handhelds with its proprietary approach to everything.

So this time, it relies on its legal team to compete.

I give Jobs his due. He's the best product marketing manager in the world. But tablets, and other viewing-mostly devices are an idea whose time has come. Being slightly ahead of the pack is not worth what Apple is attempting to extort.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Yep. They claim everything.

Apple: All your inventions are belong to us.

For example, all the iFruitSheep seem to think Apple invented multitouch.

Actually, University of Toronto, with Bill Buxton, were the first to use capacitance in a multi-touch display panel in 1985 http://www.billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html

Pierre Wellner published a paper on in 19-freaking-91 on a "DigitalDesk calculator" which was multi-touch and pinch-to-zoom capable. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Concurrent+editing+the+group%27s+interface.%22
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TheyCallMeScoot:
i really am worried that this is going to have a bad impact on app development for our tablet. things such as a possible HBO GO or an official netflix release, i will be really pissed if these things now never happen because of this. eff apple and the deathstar they try to rule the galaxy from.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DaWongOne:
Yep, and that's why I don't use apple products. But Steve Jobs is being punished anyway. Apple is like cancer!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jnn1:
Seems like German courts work in different ways than here. This is from samsungs official response:

The request for injunction was filed with no notice to Samsung, and the order was issued without any hearing or presentation of evidence from Samsung.

So this injunction happens unilaterally. There is seriously something wrong about depriving end customers of a product without a proper airing of the contentions. How obnoxious.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bballer71418:
This is exactly why I will never buy an apple product. I hate hearing icrap fans talk about how apple invented multi touch and even so far that apple invented the digital camera?! Apple has obviously lost all innovation (ripping android of notifications) and are always at least one step behind in hardware. They know Steve jobs is almost dead and without him they would be nothing. There just trying to wipe everyone else out before they reach there eventual doom. I say Google needs.to buy a **** load of patents and sue the crap out of apple. Same with Motorola who also has a heavy patent portfolio. Either way I'm waiting for Google to step up because android is there baby.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] emuneee:
Huh netflix and hbogo aren't even available outside the US.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DroidFreek:
Apple provably have the German courts on their payroll.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cowhow:
This is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. Beginning in the late 90's when Microsoft pulled Apple from the brink of bankruptcy I became a fanboy of Apple's. Root for the underdog, pull for the little guy, that was my motive. Millions of others shared the idea until now take a look...Apple has become a far greater menace than Microsoft ever thought about being. Microsoft was too unfocused to be such a tyrant. Apple not only has the focus and drive, they also have the money to finance it. I hope Samsung sticks to their guns. Apple needs to have a good helping of humble pie else we'll all become victims of their bullying and manipulation.

The GT Tab no more infringes on Apple than any other tablet currently on the market. They just happen to be the most viable threat and therefore, most logical target. I have to echo the fears others have expressed on this thread about future software development if the injunctions not only stand, but expand to other countries. If the market is severely limited developers will direct their resources elsewhere.

For all the *****ing Apple has done about Microsoft over the years, they need to take a long, hard look in the mirror.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TheyCallMeScoot:
Ah well that lessens my worry a bit
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] afadzil21:
Google and Sammy should get together and really get Apple on this one. All the Android manufacturers should be on board. Samsung, Sony and LG have a massive grip on consumer electronics. Make devices completely incompatible with Apple products. Make it work with everyone else except Apple. I'm still waiting for the GTab in my country, launch has been delayed to 20th Aug (rumor) and I do hope it has nothing to do with Apple. The others have to think really hard. MS should make WP7 play nice with Androids and RIM's is already on its way there. Cross-platform app compatibility on QNX, WP7 and Android will eat away Apple's pie. Unified SDK which allows full cross-platform development for these OS will lure away the Apple devs due to the wide market available. It's really time the players realised Apple's really scared of losing the market resorting to stupid patents that stifle innovation and competition. Time to strangle Apple and teach them a lesson that their money can't buy everything. iOS5 is bleeding rip-off of Android and its tech. But since Android is Open Source, we really can't do anything. Google should just patent a few key elements of Android and hold them. Then sue Apple when iOS5 is launched. Hit back at them. I for one have had enough of this fruit company's antics.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PookiePrancer:
I think the writing is on the wall, and in spite of Google assurances that they'll help their OEMs with these lawsuits, their silence thus far has been telling. I've never gotten so invested in any company that the loss of Android would kill me, but unless something happens soon to turn the tide against Apple, I think Android's days are numbered. Today it's Samsung, tomorrow it'll be HTC. They'll fall, one by one; and where's Google? I'm at least glad that Microsoft and HP are stepping up their games, so we have some decent alternatives to turn to. One thing is certain though: no Apple products in my house.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
Apple's claims against the Galaxy Tab is the biggest BS I've ever heard. The only thing that even remotely looks similar to an iPad is the thickness, which the Galaxy Tab 10.1 beats out the iPad 2. God forbid Samsung be allowed to make a thinner tablet. I can already see Apple sue Acer's unltrabooks and say that they copied the MacBook Air.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Croak:
I think it's all about the aluminium bezel surround, looks-wise. Thanks to that shiny edging, with the screen off sitting on a table they do look similar, as long as they're not sitting close to each other. The little depression and white paint on the iPad2's home button doesn't instantly catch the eye.

Best (or at least cheapest) thing Samsung could do is tool up future production runs to coat the bezel surround in black, like they did with the Fascinate and T959D. The "shadow chrome" they used on the SGS and SGS2 is still too shiny.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
that doesn't make sense, though.

Google some images of the hp slate 500, and that was out like 6mos before the ipad2!

Aluminum-colored back, slightly visible when viewed from the front.

All pure bs.

And i can see the home button on my wife iPad 2from a mile away! It's like bam! there it is

What's interesting is what the other poster said about no due process.

Here in the US, don't you have to post some huge bond, so if you are found incorrect, the subject of the injunction gets it, or something?

Posted from my Asus Transformer

And no, Apple, it does NOT look like your POS iPad, thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stillblood:
This just makes not want to buy apple products. I just don't understand why. They are losing market share but are still selling iPhone and ipad at a alarming rate. There 18 month old iPhone sold 20 million units last quarter. The most people I know don't even know what what the galaxy tab is.....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] afadzil21:
Apple's markets products to 80% of the population who are not that smart. Of that 80%, 20% are actually rich enough to keep paying stupid prices to keep being the i-diots they are. Apple does not innovate, they market. Unfortunately, Samsung is getting better are marketing their obviously better products that the iCrap that comes from Cupertino, no wonder the massive legal response from Apple. Samsung is getting too powerful and is threatening Apple. Android needs help, and needs help now. Moto needs to start using the extensive patent portfolio to shutdown Apple's insane patent bloodlust. Next thing we know Apple will build the iCar and patent the heck out of the auto gearbox or some crap. Screw CRAPPLE.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
It's not so much Android, but more cosmetics, and the TouchWiz GUI.

As if icons and icon bars were invented by Apple in 2007...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] justvinz:
What will happen now to the 8.9?

Will it be halted too? Or maybe they will rush it out to replace the 10.1 at least here in Europe?

I don't find gtab/ipad similar AT ALL (not more than any other tablet).

I'm so pissed off! apple now sucks more than ever
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] appelflap:
And what's more .... as if Apple invented the tablet or the smartphone... They copied all the things they did on the mobile platform from day 1.

I'm so finished with Apple and the cool guys clan that I'm going to sell all my Apple stuff. Yes including my brand new iMac. Never again want to be associated with that company.

Apple is something for investors. Nerds that think that Apple is a brand like Coca Cola..Well, not even that.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lynk Former:
It's all so depressing... I mean, I can't even have a conversation about technology with people outside of the Internet any more because they all think that Apple created everything and that every other product is a copy.

I take my GT10.1 everywhere with me... everyone says it's a copy of the iPad. The one guy who I know that actually owns an iPad 2 thinks it's extremely different from an iPad... I have no idea what to think or do any more.

The world has gone mad.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ghislandi:
disgraceful

Reading the injunction it has nothing to do with the software ... it is all about the design of the hardware - which I think looks pretty different - or at least as different as any flat screen could look.

On the same principle all TV manufacturers could sue each other - as let's be honest - LCD TVs all look the same ...

Clearly Apple must be nervous about what is a good competitor to their nanny tab
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Look at Samsung's response:

"The request for injunction was filed with no notice to Samsung, and the order was issued without any hearing or presentation of evidence from Samsung."

Read this: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/why-samsung-was-not-put-on-notice.html

EDIT: Someone talking about same/similar ports. Guess they didn't see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
Google doesn't have anything on this to do. Apple is asking to hold Gtab because they think their idiotic customer are so stupid, they'll think they are buying Ipad, since it looks almost identical. Thank God, the manufacturer were not suing when there were flip phone floating around the stores.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ljungwall:
I ordered one today via Telia.se. ETA friday! :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AceTrader:
Gtab launched in India

During all this issues happening, Samsung launched Gtab 10.1 and 8.9 in India today.

But they are renamed as Galaxy tab750 and 730 respectively.

10.1 is expected to be in stores by this month end and 8.9 by mid September.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Cpt Streamline:
I hate Apple for this very reason and their "apple law" controlling what you can do with their products.

I used to own a IPhone and a IPad but I got rid of them asap and now own a Galaxy S2 and a Galaxy Tab 10.1.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PookiePrancer:
Yeah, you're right. It's a sad thought, but Apple does have its customers pegged; they ARE that dumb.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mrsbelpit:
well, they're going after the Xoom now, which leads me to believe they think they invented tablets. If iPad is so magical and revolutionary, why don't they want competition to prove it?

http://www.slashgear.com/apple-targets-motorola-xoom-next-in-euro-tablet-cull-10170787/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RMXO:
Correct me if I'm wrong here but didn't all this mess start with Samsung not willing to sell Apple some of their screens? Wasn't Samsung once or still is a vendor to get screens from?

While I do see some similarities in the new GTab 10.1 but not to the extent where you **** block your competition but then against business was never my strong suit and I don't understand why Apple is starting to **** block Xoom.

I was once an Apple Fan boy but their tactics is starting to scare me away and loved them as the underdog against Microsoft but they have become even more evil than Microsoft ever was.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
I seriously doubt any Apple fanboy would confuse their "sacred" iPad to the Galaxy Tab unless their just plain dumb. On the other hand, they probably are dumb since they're fans of Apple. I like how Apple sees Samsung's products as "inferior" yet their iPhones and iPads use Samsung manufactured internal parts and Apple always goes around claiming they use only premium materials to make their products.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jardicel:
If you make anything thinner and much better than Steve-O's I pad 2, he gets scared and sues you.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
I bet none of you ever had an Ipad to compare.

After 3 days you would Ebay your Android Tab.

I comparad. Hardware wise, there is not much to say.

But software and quality lacks big time on Android 3.x

It lags, it refuses to work to often, it crashes, flash is not fluid, browser keyboar lag, sleep of death blabla.

It's not only the 10.1, it's Android 3.x - give it 1-2 years and maybe they beat Apple like they did for smartphones.

But for now, Androids tablets are just hype carried over from smartphones.

And THAT are dumb people, not Apple users.

I am not an Apple fanboy, I compared and I decidid. I am using a SGS1 and an IPAD2. 90% of all postings regarding Android are just postet because people never tried Apple stuff and are convinced it rocks so hard, it couldn't be better - well it can.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thatdude90210:
If you crop a picture of Windows desktop's icon group on the left hand side, that's the look & feel of IOS.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
Dig in history, Windows is more like a stolen Apple OS.

Apple-DOS 1977

MS-DOS (QDOS) ~1980

First Windows Versions are just DOS with an UI. Actually, everyone is stealing from Apple. I just know Apple has an awesome support and quality, which you won't find anywhere else. That's why Apple sells - it's like Amazon for shopping.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
I wouldn't be surprised if the designer of iOS actually did that to get his ideas.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
I bought an Android tablet since it makes much more sense because I have an Android phone. I don't see any reason to purchase the apps over again on a different platform.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
That's a good reason for Android. But does it mean Android > iOS?

Those bucks you saved would be gone for me in my country by just buying an 10.1

They charge 629€ at Amazon for a 10.1 16GB 3G.

An equal Ipad2 costs 100€ less. Yep, Euro, not Dollar !

For me, Samsung ist greedy without any kind of support.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Actually, there is an iPad2 in my household (wife's - 16GB WiFi only bought from BBuy) and there's my Asus Transformer. And you're right - they don't compare. The iPad2 is a total POS compared to the TF101.

Even my wife oohs and ahs when doing the screen swiping transitions, not even mentioning when she wants to go to a website with flash, and has to grab my TF or her laptop.

It's all about the customizing - I can use whatever widgets I want, where I want, with whatever live wallpaper I want, any browser I feel like using, and then I can plug it in, and just drag-n-drop videos and music.

So, again, yes, you're right - there is no comparison - iPad2 loses without even putting up a fight!

And apps? please. Who needs 11,000 fart apps, 43,000 soundboards, etc...

The FruitCo app store is so polluted, the only way to clean it, wold be to bounce everything and start over.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
Flash is dying out, HTML5 is the new video standard. Flash is obsolete and even Adobe knows that.

Flash lags, is slow and ****ty, that's why they refuse to support it.

And hardly any important page uses it - everyone is migrating to HTML5.

But you can still jailbreak and run flash pretty fine. (iswifter etc.)

Apple has made the correct decision - kick crap out and make it vanish forever.

Samsung produces commercials and fools people with flash - and it still lags, doesn't it?

Oh, and I forgot. Tried playing 1080p high profile DTS movies?

Using XBMC no problem for Ipad2.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Are you serious? Wanna bring history up, look up CP/M / Digital Research, which is what DOS was copied from.

You will find it existed before Apple, Inc. did. Apple Computer, Inc founded in 1976, CP/M released in 1973/74.

As for GUIs, Microsoft and Apple BOTH copied Xerox/PARC's WIMP system, so you REALLY need to do a little more research before spouting your fanboy spew.

Thanks for playing, no you don't get a parting gift...

Oh, and BTW, the InterWebz are still probably 60-70% flash, so you go ahead and enjoy that 30-40% of the InterWebz.

See, we don't have to jailbreak anything to get flash, "it just works."
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
Yeah, bragging about having an apps store with 90,000 apps is nothing but numbers talk. The average user will only buy a handful of quality apps. I have yet to meet anyone with 90,000 apps on their tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Excellent point.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
I just see fanboy speek by Android users, some of them are even kiddish and start to insult people who post and discuss about hardware and stuff. Everyone has the same argument: flash (and it doesn't work as it should).

Yeah, nice scene, isn't it? And even nicer kids you got here.

Guess right from the US ghetto or something.

Game over, Ipad2 wins. Go buy Androids and see how it continues to have 1% of all sold Android versions. There is a reason.

Check this and return it: http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html

As i said, hype carried over from Smartphones.

:)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Yes, you do see the Apple fanboyz do it, and they're actually worse, IMHO.

Plenty of evidence out there, especially on the tech sites.

They all do it, I couldn't care less - my household has an iPad2 (iOS), an Asus Transformer (Android 3.2), and HP TouchPad en-route (WebOS 3.x), 2 iphones, a Palm Pre+, 2 samsung captivates, and Archos9 (now gone - WIn 7),and a few Motion tablets (windows XP / 7), so I've been on this ferris wheels for a few spins...

And it's not just flash...

It's the Apple lockdown...

App store "approval" process...

The lack of flash...

The lack of drag-n-drop / storage mode...

Having to convert videos...

I can keep going all dang day, as I have both platforms at home.

In my mind, being IT-centric, and being employed in that field, the only advantage that iOS has over Android at this point, is that Google hasn't fixed the VPN yet. Once that is fixed, there's absolutely ZERO upside to the iPad/iOS. For me, since we have a web-based SSL VPN portal, it makes no difference - for others tied to PPTP with encryption, big deal.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
Maybe you haven't used any of them properly or long enough.

I couldn't. For all those $$$ people need to work, not to play on Tabs.

I am not poor too, propably I earn twice as much in € but who cares? Money won't tell which one is better in the current state.

Well that's it. Sick of Android fanboism. No constructive discussions are possible.

I had both and I sold my 10.1 - nice hardware and widgets but everything else is below Apple standards.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
Are you 5thElement in disguise. Seriously dude, you need to get a life. I pity people like you who know little and try to make people believe that you know everything. I wonder from where you got that 90%.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
So you are Steve Jobs in disguise. This is not the right way to make it work, but that way.