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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Exactly what I was saying about fanboyz...

I just GAVE YOU a quick list of deficiencies, and the best you could reply, was "Maybe you haven't used any of them properly or long enough."

'nuff said - you proved my point just fine.

Tablets are used nightly at home, from controlling the home theatre, to the Xfinity app, to surfing, email, etc...

As to the $$$ earnings, not that it really matters, but I make enough.

My A/V receiver I just purchased not long ago, is an $1100 Pioneer Elite VSX-53, bought the iPad2 in mid-June, bought the complete Asus Transformer outfit 2 weekends ago, and just ordered an HP TouchPad this weekend, not to mention (3) Dell XPS15 laptops first week of July.

What's your point?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thatdude90210:
I was going to ask for a link to his source. But then I realized he can't post a link to his ass.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Not to mention the stupidity about Microsoft copying DOS from Apple...

That was just the absolute dumbest thing I've seen come out of ANY Apple fanboyz mouth!!

Any quick google/wikipedia search will give you those answers!

The problem, is most apple fanboyz are recent fanboyz.

They haven't been in this business for 20-30 years, like some of us have.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Dude. Two thumbs up!

:D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lynk Former:
As someone who doesn't care about the nitty-gritty technical aspects of Android or iOS... I just want to say that I like my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and think it's great. My friend likes his iPad 2 and thinks it's great... we both like our respective devices and don't spend a billion hours arguing about which is better and don't even see them as being similar.

I'm kind of getting really sick of seeing the whole Android vs iOS arguments around the net and how Apple has suddenly created everything. Also, I don't like where the whole patent system has led us. It's all being abused by companies trying to bring down other companies instead of fostering new and better technologies.

Well whatever, I've got my GT10.1 and am enjoying it. A little saddened that other people may not get the chance to own one and see how great it is but I can't really do much about that and it's pointless to argue with people who don't like the GT10.1 or Android about it.

I just hope companies like Samsung continue making their own tablets though. They can make LCD TVs that look like LCD TVs made by other companies that all look the same with no problem, I can't see why they can't do the same with tablets.

The GT10.1 certainly doesn't look anything like the iPad from the back...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
It's not so much about Android vs iOS, it's more about Apple being a patent troll against the competitors. Apple doing so will cause harm towards competition and eventually affect the end users. A perfect example is the reason of this whole thread; the Tab 10.1 is blocked from being sold to those who looked forward to it in Europe.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] roccos_van:
What a load of BS...So everyone in the world who makes anything should get sued by the so-called 'orginator'? From the first car mfg to the first guy who made scotch or beer? This is so stupid my head hurts.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
Yep. Stifles competition, which in turn will casue harm to consumers. If ther eis no competition, then you can charge what you want. Stifles innovation, as well, as can be seen witht he Samsung case: Thinner, lighter, faster.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] appelflap:
Off topic... Try to do an informed guess about what this topic is about. It will add a lot to the credibility of your jugdgement :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Danstek:
He lost all credibility simply from his atrocious spelling in his post.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sharkonwheels:
You sure it wasn't him saying that Microsoft copied the Apple II to get DOS?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sylvesterrr:
I'm so glad I bought one when I was in the USA a few weeks ago. It saved me a lot of money and waiting...

iDevices are well designed and do work flawlessly. In fact, they are nice gadgets. The only thing I hate about iDevices: the users who buy one *because* it's an iDevice, not because it's a good product... I bet that's the majority of iUsers.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Gilgehmesh:
Actually MS-DOS is an illegal copy of CP/M.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] MarcSinger:
THESE are Apple's infringement claims, believe it or not:

A rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded;

The front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;

As to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width;

As to the iPad product, substantial black borders on all sides being roughly equal in width;

A metallic surround framing the perimeter of the top surface;

A display of a grid of colorful square icons with uniformly rounded corners; and

A bottom row of square icons (the “Springboard”) set off from the other icons and that do not change as the other pages of the user interface are viewed.

A rectangular box with minimal metallic silver lettering and a large front-viewpicture of the product prominently on the top surface of the box;

A two-piece box wherein the bottom piece is completely nested in the top piece; and

Use of a tray that cradles products to make them immediately visible upon opening the box.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cryingfreeman22:
Now is selling Tab 10.1 in my country( Slovakia) stopped. Thank you Apple.:/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lynk Former:
I know that, I was just kind of venting after reading a bunch of inane comments in tech blogs where ios and android fanboys tend to go head to head in some kind of internet tough-guy battle royale.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Ansextra:
Actually I believe OS/2 was around long before Apple was and that was a graphical OS.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Ansextra:
Personally I think the similarities between the iPad and the Tab ends as soon as you turn the device on. I just hate Apple's icons. I can never find anything. They all start looking the same to me. I much prefer widgets.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] leeboy22001:
Apple are the biggest corporate bullies in the world! I'm totally outraged by there actions, and by there abuse of the patent and copyright system. I went to London at the weekend and walked past the Apple shop, I just felt sick at the sight of it! Felt like walking into the shop and telling everyone how I felt about Apple :mad: I have zero respect for Steve Jobs, I hope this becomes the downfall of the company, and I hope all the current Apple users start to realise what Apple are all about!! They are trying to force us consumers into buying there products by removing ALL competitive products, so they can make more profits :mad: its all about the money and nothing else, full stop!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mr_at_sgs:
I ordered one at cyberport.de today. It's allready shipped ...

549 €.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gdmuscle:
I just have to laugh at some of the post made by Dcc22 or whatever his nick name is. Microsoft copied Dos from Apple lol....that's a funny one. One thing I knew when I was in grade school and that was about 20 years ago that I was working on a Pet computer hmm... that had BASIC on it thought that was DOS in disguise and I thought that was MS, so did Waterloo copy BASIC from Apple too? How about Fortran was that a copy from Apple as well, oh I forgot Apple wasn't even known then.

I don't wish sickness on anyone, but Steve Jobs got what is coming to him, he's arrogant and a big hypocrate. Since apple hasn't been able to innovate on the Iphone oh and by the way the Iphone4 is just another Iphone in a different casing nothing more. The Ipad is just a large Ipod with the same OS as the Iphone. They haven't innovated their product line since the introduction of the Iphone. You have companies such as Samsung producing phones at a phenominal rate with features that kicks the but of Iphones, and Ipad. They only motivation for this is greed nothing more. The more they brainwash dumb people the more they get. Even the judge in Germany fell into their stupid trap, I guess that judge is an Iphone user.

I truly hope Samsung comes out with way better products in the next couple of months, rumor has it that they are and hopefully wipe out the sales of iphones and ipads once and for all.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] afadzil21:
Samsung should apply to disqualify the judge if he is found to be using any Apple product, it's grounds for bias.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RMXO:
Samsung needs to stand up to Apple and tell them to **** off. Play nice or I will stop selling you one, if not the best screens out there. Now, is probably the best time to do it it too, since LG is reportedly having low yields on iPad 2 screens. Once they do that, sooner or later, others will follow. It only takes a few major players to start a big domino effect. But, I doubt that since billions of dollars will be lost from not selling screens to Apple. Though they could possibly make up the lost $, if they sell to all the companies that make Android or any other tablets at a nice price.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] MarcSinger:
Truth is, Apple wants to get rid of ALL competition, so that everybody will be forced to buy ONLY Apple, nothing more. Getting patents on stuff like "a rectangular product with all four corners uniformly rounded" is really ridiculous. What other shapes are manufacturers supposed to employ? And what if a second manufacturer decides to get a patent on "a rectangular product with all four corners pointed"? What are others supposed to do THEN? Start manufacturing round and cylindrical phones?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RMXO:
IMHO, they are out to get royalties & lower pricing from their suppliers. Samsung is one of their biggest suppliers if I'm not mistaken. Look at MS making $ from patents used in Android products.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Turb0wned:
They are now going after the xoom.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] appelflap:
Omg really? Can't we sue Apple for ****ing up the market as users or consumers :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] appelflap:
Just wait awhile and Apple is so confused that it is going to sue nature over the existence of a particular fruit.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tsang_alan:
I have a Nexus One, iPhone 4, iPad, SGS2... (and planning to get GalTab when it's out...)

I love trying custom roms in android, Jailbreaking the iOS... I am quite familiar with both OS... I think.... :P

I like the exist of both android and iOS. I believe the competition pushes android to improve user friendliness and iOS to catch up innovations. This is the beauty of competition and free market, which drives the world forward.

But this time, Apple is trying to stop the competition... As a tech giant company, that's really disappointing...

My logic told me I should not make conclusion before the suing is over... but

***Use of a tray that cradles products to make them immediately visible upon opening the box.***

WTF....is that really the infringement claims??? If yes, this is a joke... I think a lot of the products have such packaging... Think about a box of chocolates, a box of cigarettes, a box of Nike shoes and a box of condom...

Steve... Are you gonna halt the Durex soon?... :eek:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] timmymarsh:
Memebrs take note please

Guys,

Let me me absolutely clear on one thing here please; racist comments and swearing/flaming

WILL NOT

be tolerated, end of story.

If anyone makes any more such comments you will receive a ban, you have been warned.

I'm sure you are all intelligent enough to have a reasoned debate without making such comments, if i suggest that you go elsewhere.

Thank you.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] therealpure:
What does this mean for potential GalTab buyers?

Hi all,

Interesting points been made.

My questions are:

What are the repercussions of this for a potential GalTab buyer?

Should I rush and pick one up now before its difficult to get one?

Or because of this halt in sales would the support and GalTab community be reduced and I should look else where for a good android tablet that may have a clearer future?

Does this make the tablet more or less valuable? E.g if I resell it after a year would no one want it or would it be more exclusive due to the blocking of sales.

I've owned an Ipad and like it, now looking for a good android tablet and had my eye on the GalTab. Not sure now...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cryingfreeman22:
In my country(Slovakia) was SGT 10.1 stopped. Thank you Apple:-(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Emmure:
Dude, if I got 10 cent for every iDiot that asked me if my TF was an iPad the passed 2 months, I could probably buy 2 iPad2's with the bigger geebees...

Its pisses me off every single time -_-

P.S. sent from my ASUS Transformer that DOESN'T look like an iPad
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rammkp:
Dont be a bully

It is very bad when companies try to bully competition and destroy it. Even if it takes time, consumers will dump products that does not provide good value for money.

I hope Samsung wins this one and comes stronger for the benefit of us.

Regards

Ram
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Cpt Streamline:
I have lost all respect for Apple now and the best thing; my friends who are Apple fan boys and girls have also lost respect for them. I'm so glad that I got my SGS2 and Tab 10.1 and got rid off all things Apple, I also uninstalled Itunes today.

Just in case anyone was wondering, the Tab 10.1 is still for sale in the UK. Try currys (sorry i can't post links yet)

One question I have is regarding software updates. If Samsung can't resell the Tab 10.1 will they do firmware updates for us lucky few who got one?!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] poisike:
They have do, otherwise it's probably another court case. Samsung made a deal with Google, they promised to update their Android devices to latest Android version for 18 month after the product is released. This was announced at IO back in May.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Cpt Streamline:
I completely forgot about that announcement. Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] smack:
Legal grounds

Well, I am a 10.1v owner myself and I know the IPad. I know of the technical differences between these two products and no doubt about it that the 10.1. wins hands down.

However the reason for the court to issue the injunction is a very simple one:

Apple had filed a Community Design at the Community Trademark Office describing what has been already said here:

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A rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded;

The front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;

As to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width;

As to the iPad product, substantial black borders on all sides being roughly equal in width;

A metallic surround framing the perimeter of the top surface;

A display of a grid of colorful square icons with uniformly rounded corners; and

A bottom row of square icons (the “Springboard”) set off from the other icons and that do not change as the other pages of the user interface are viewed.

A rectangular box with minimal metallic silver lettering and a large front-viewpicture of the product prominently on the top surface of the box;

A two-piece box wherein the bottom piece is completely nested in the top piece; and

Use of a tray that cradles products to make them immediately visible upon opening the box.

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This has been accompained with the respective scetches and photographs and compared to the Community Design Samsung itself had filed. If you compare these two as a judge you can not have any doubt (in a preliminary injunction procedure which is only a summary procedure) that the Samsung violates the Community Design from Apple.

Another question is, if this Community Design can be challanged by Samsung. Samsung had to see this coming, They certainly knew the Community Designs. I wonder what they thought would happen.

Look for yourself in the attachments.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DocRambone:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/nl-ruling-on-apple-vs-samsung-dispute-due-on-9-15-courtroom-an/

"Apple presented online market research indicating that 80% of respondents found the iPad and Galaxy Tab 10.1 to be "identical" or at least "similar in general impression," a study that apparently did not impress the judge. Apple also alleged infringement from the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Ace, while Samsung, for its part, said Apple's claims were far too vague, enough so that any digital photo frame would be in trouble."
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
I just read the article on engadget. I guess digital photo frames came before any ipad. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] paalkr:
Glad I bought mine in the US some weeks ago. I feel sorry for all Europeans that looked forward to the release.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TabGuy:
I lived the history. Apple has invented NOTHING. Let's relive it:

- Mac GUI OS: Invented by Xerox Palo Alto Research Center. Steve Jobs visits the facility and voila! the Mac OS is born, er copied.

- iPod: There were a number of MP3 players before the iPod. The iPod is a dud when it's first announced because iTunes only runs on Mac OS. It only takes off after they create a Windows version of iTunes.

- Smart phone. I've been using Smart phones since the time that Steve Jobs said they'd never make a smart phone.

- iPad. Tablets have been around since 1999.

Here's what Apple is good at. Very good in fact. They know how to take other people's ideas, dumb it down for the mass market, and then market the hell out of it.

Apple is NOT a product inventor, they're a marketing company.

However, having said that, the ONLY product that will ever command a market is the iPod. Why? Because of DRM. People have too much invested in AAC music to leave it.

They were first with mass market GUI and the Mac. They lost the lead and now the Mac is about 5% worldwide of PC sales.

They were first with a popular mass market smart phone. Now, their market share, which once topped 35%, is now a mere 18% and dropping like a rock.

They were first with a popular mass market tablet. They had 96% market share in 2010. Now their market share has dropped to just above 60% in less than 6 months.

Apple sees the writing on the wall. The iPad will go the same direction as the Mac and the iPhone and they don't like it one bit. Their solution? Sue the bastards!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
Here's something that should make the German judge look stupid and ifanboys to think twice before saying anything about apple coming up with original design.

engadget.com/2006/03/09/samsung-digital-picture-frame-stores-pics-movies-music/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DocRambone:
LOl... .........
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] King Canute:
If I remember correctly, Apple wanted to have Super Amoled screen to use in their phones (Iphone 4 I think it was), but Samsung said no, because they needed all Super Amoled screens for their own products.

I now think Samsung has opened another factory for producing Super Amoled screens, to keep up with the high demand.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] leeboy22001:
Managed to get a black 16GB one from currys after work :-), just incase !
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RMXO:
oh snap. I'm going to post that on a Mac forums. hehehe
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xninj4:
Here's another one for you. On MacWorld no less!

http://www.macworld.co.uk/digitallifestyle/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=2472

http://media.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/products/10845/Samsung-H72.JPG
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Malandro2011:
I hope someone creates a Website where people can go and submit their support to boycott apple products until they stop what they're doing. A website that can bring this ridiculous bully behaviour to the media.

If they succeed then that will open the door to sue other companies like Asus, Hp, etc.. and this is ridiculous.

Maybe farmers should sue Apple for claiming to sell fruits.

This is really a very low act and I've lost any respect I had left for apple.

Apple Innovation ...right...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12991401
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cribeiro:
Without spaces inserted. And this:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/samsung-digital-picture-frame-stores-pics-movies-music/

March 2006 !!!! Indeed it was Apple that copied Samsung!!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] chemou:
Since I mainly read and not comment here, I'm not permitted for some time to add the url links. But just wanted to turn your attention to an article in the Economist journal. I checked the thread and I haven't found this one yet. Simply google or check on the Economist webpage: apple-and-samsungs-symbiotic-relationship.

BTW, I keep waiting for my GT10.1 blocked also here in Poland....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AceTrader:
Posting the link for you :)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/08/apple-and-samsungs-symbiotic-relationship
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bandit_knight:
Samung in Poland told the press they will keep selling their devices anyway. And devices are for sure in the market. I got one from Komputronik. Now I can see they are out of stock. But you can still get your Tab from Allegro. And not from a random guy but from a reseller such as Karen Notebook.

I believe the best way out of this situation for Samsung is to just ignore the ban. The community desing document that Apple refers to in their lawsuits is going to be invalidated anyway IMHO. It's too generic and it's against the EU's community design directive that forbids registration of designs that are already in the market and that look and feel is driven by the usability features of the type of device. Here it's obvious. Tablet in general is rectangular device with a screen in front, some ports, some buttons and that's it. It cannot be made a registered design this way.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] foxmeister:
I must say, this is fantastic!

So that'll be the first 4 knocked off the list, and the other two don't really apply to the Tab anyway.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninjawmb:
This is all about greed as we all know, maybe all the android manufactures should get together and form some sort of agreement where they could protect android against the apple corporate controlling machine, but we all know this will never happen!!

I also think it is worrying when one company has more money than the US treasury, does this not say a lot about us as consumers?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninjawmb:
O Thank you thank you Sharkonwheels for educating these Mac users who think Apple invented the GUI, you saved me a lot of typing. Next they will be saying apple inverted the computer

What I will say is Apple have demonstrated what good marketing is all about but then so did Nike

Wayne
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninjawmb:
O Thank you, thank you Sharkonwheels for educating these Mac users who think Apple invented the GUI, you saved me a lot of typing. Next they will be saying apple inverted the computer

What I will say is Apple have demonstrated what good marketing is all about but then so did Nike
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninjawmb:
LOL, LOL that made me laugh!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] smack:
Now thats a good one. I just have to find a way to contact the lawyer representing Samsung :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninjawmb:
Err! I don't think that is quite correct Microsoft bought CP/M and then renamed to MS-DOS
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninjawmb:
As a human being I would not wish on anyone what has happened to Steve Jobs despite the arrogant nature of his personality (we all have out issues), but I am loving the education which has been provided to the I love my apple users
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
I guess the only thing that needs to be done is to send the link of this thread to that German judge. May be a picture of the guy shooting on his foot from the bugs bunny cartoon ;-)