[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fortissimo:
I used to have an iPhone 3G, and now have an iPhone 4. Neither device requires the TomTom Car Dock to make it (TomTom iOS app) to work, although it could make it better. And I don't think the 3GS is an exception either. I'm sure the integrated GPSr (receiver, GPS is the constellation and the ground station as a System) works fine.

Just to show the bias has continued on these forums. I have own WM devices since: Cassiopeia A10 (Win CE 1.0), Clarion AutoPC (CE 2.0 special edition) C310, Toshiba e740, e805, e830, Dell X30(H), and now HTC Advantage x7501. So to tell you that I'm far from an iOS or Apple fanboy, but just want to straighten out the facts.

Yes, I really hope you don't continue on your "iphone sh*t" because it is probably going to be misleading also.

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I really think this is baseless.

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Garmin has first made an online version, and now an offline version for iOS (that is called App Store and not Market, unfortunately, which is an Android thing). It might not be for all countries (the map), but it's there.

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Another one that said Android is for kids within the first 5 pages of this thread.

You know what, all these answers turned me off. Many of you sound like the frog in the deep well, paraphrasing a famous Chinese proverb. Some of you are turning into those underdog syndrome, that famously infested the Commodore Amiga fans, (and somewhat Atari ST), but at least that was a technologically superior system over competitors at the time, while WM is not!

I have used all major platforms, and I'm platform agnostic. Check my list of devices from earlier post. I still own the Toshiba e805, (SD socket now dead), e830, and HTC x7501, and the Clarion AutoPC (CE based), in storage (since I changed car), and also my Viewsonic SmartDisplay which is based on CE Embedded also.

But I've been frustrated with CE / WM and none of you get it. Some posts on this threads merely made me want to dump this platform faster! I bet many of you do not own the other devices and use them on a day to day basis like I do. I have used iOS for 3 years now, and Android about 6 months. I used to use PalmOS before "switching" to PocketPC.

Among all the handheld PDA / Smartphone platforms that I have used (I have not used WebOS, Symbian, and only barely Blackberry), PPC/WM is the least stable, buggy, un-intuitive platform to use. Why did I switch? Only because they had the most apps, including but not limited to Street Map nav, VoIP client, etc.

But very few posts (I only read page 1-3 and page 5) ever mentioned this reason. Right now I have one app that I use (for amateur radio niche purpose) that is superior on the WM than other platforms (handheld), and that is the only saving grace, but that is due to the programmer, not the platform.

Right, keep on bashing the other platforms with nonsense. Don't you even realize 99% of the hacking scenes even here (xda) have moved over to Android and WP7? There isn't even a new cook ROM out for my Athena for 1.5 year now.

I'm giving it up. I'm sure you aren't. And that's just fine by me.