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[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
I end up having to charge it halfway through the day then again at night, as I use it quite a bit. But I was having concerns about battery life as my power usage readings were always higher than everyone elses when idle.

I use my phone as my music player while I commute, although that doesn't seem to be very taxing, I let the music play overnight with the battery at 100%, ten hours later it was still at 65%. But I was not sure about during use, I always felt the percentage went down too quickly.
[HTC Desire S] bprabawabr:
I'm a Nexus S user, so I can't comment on what battery life is considered "normal" for Desire S.

What I do know is that:

With your usage, that would be normal for Nexus S. In fact, better than my setup (which is stock 2.3.4 ROM). Three hours of music + 1 hour of video and your phone's still alive?

Amazing.

What ROM are you on?

Now I want me a Desire S!! :rolleyes:

Edit: I missed the fact that during the 3-hour music, the screen is mostly off. Well, no longer *that* amazing (sorry :)), but still considerably better than my Nexus S!
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
The point to note is the angle of the graph when the screen is on compared to that when the screen is off

Without stating the obvious screen usage kills the battery, so I'd suggest keeping the screen bright ness to a minimum and I'd recommend against using the auto setting as it defaults way to high, you'll only need high brightness in direct sunlight

I get similar numbers, I'd consider your usage as heavy and undercut consider taking a spare charger with you so that you can top up during day after periods of heavy usage

Instal an application like battery monitor widget to log your battery usage while the device is sleeping (screen off and not playing music) to determine if you are suffering from a battery drain
[HTC Desire S] rkumbhar:
My battery lasts for 16+ hrs..

usage includes 1 hr of music,

1 hr of video, 1 hr gaming,

2-3hr wifi ON

Net always ON on EDGE (not 3G) for sync except the night where 6 hrs GPRS is off,

\m/
[HTC Desire S] jez9999:
Good tips. I just tried turning the brightness down (it was at max) and I barely noticed the difference until it got below 50%! This may significantly increase battery life, we'll see.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Thank you all for your responses :-)
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
I've already tried using battery monitors - and I was constantly getting higher readings than other users (i.e. Battery Monitor Widget would never go below 14mA on sleep, when other users were getting 6-9 mA) so I was thinking maybe the readings are false. Hence the reason for this thread - rather than using mA readings, I thought I'd post this and compare the actual battery life with other users.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
The screen wasn't off for the whole time while listening to music, I was using Whatsapp for most of the time along side. I'm on the 1.1 beta Superkid CM7 ROM.
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 2496007:
Whoa! That's not normal battery life. Please see my guide thread, and especially see the last post I made this morning.

Ben is right though, screen brightness at 100% won't be helping your cause. I leave mine at 45% when indoors.

PM me if you need help.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Thanks, your guide was very handy. I've considered all the things there, but as I have been crying about for the last couple of weeks, no matter what ROM I use, my power consumption (according to Battery Monitor Widget) never went below 14mA. In CM7 (the ROM I use), the one item always eating most battery (whether phone is idle or heavily used), is "Mobile Standby". In other ROMs, "Mobile Standby" is much further down the list as it should be, but my usage is still never lower than 14mA.

I figured perhaps there was something wrong in the readings, or in the information displayed, so decided to just do a subjective test by using the device very heavily just to see what the battery drain would be like.

So my case above, was a 5 hour period of heavy internet browsing, internet messaging (Whatsapp), 3 hour music playback (continuous, while messaging/browsing), 1 hour video playback, with a combination of 2G, 3G, no signal, and bad coverage areas, a bit of GPS usage, and the screen was on for a large portion of the time, on 100% brightness.

As you said in your guide - when you do a second charge in the middle of the day, the battery life for that charge is lower than an overnight charge. Although I haven't really taken notice of this, the above took place in the afternoon, after being charged from around 50% to 100%. I kept it plugged into a USB charger until around 3pm, then conducted the above drainage test.

When you say this is not normal battery life, what do you mean? Should I have still had a lot more remaining charge after all that heavy drainage + screen on (at max brightness) for most of the time?
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 2496007:
I suppose if you have bad signal coverage AND heavy use AND screen at 100% brightness then maybe over 5 hours its to be expected. I must admit I've never tried recreating this. What do you get with more normal use typically? Or is this normal for you? I have found those current monitor apps/widgets to be so inconsistent I've stopped using them. Instead, I've started looking at apps that monitor CPU and Wake Lock times. I've found it much more helpful in tracking down battery drain.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Due to my long daily commute, this is almost my normal use (although not this excessive).

What app would you recommend to monitor CPU and Wake Lock times?

Thanks.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
decent battery stats application, that shows wake locks information in detail

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 2496007:
That's the one!
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Having a look at the app, I don't see how it helps determining causes of battery drain? Could anyone shed a bit more light?

For example these are my top entry in "Wakelocks" and "Since charged":

android.media.MediaPlayer

com.tbig.playerpro.PlayerPro

3 h 51 m 1 s (13861 s) Count:180 44.1%

GTALK_CONN

Google Services

3 m 34 s (214 s) Count:1669 0.7

What do all those figures actually mean?
[HTC Desire S] amonrei:
That's quite normal for a heavy usage with max brightness. But i also noticed that between 100% and 50% brightness there's not much difference. So i just set it around 50% outdoor and 30% indoor.

I think those figures mean that the music player is keeping your device awake for those 3 hours you played the music. Which probably explains the earlier part of your graph where it's awake but screen is not on. I think. :D
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
That particular info from BetterBatteryStats was not actually for the same period as in the screenshot, but I think what you said makes sense!
[HTC Desire S] Steinhund:
How often do you allow your phone to check for emails? Maybe this is the cause of 14mA. Do you use a 3rd party email app?
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
I use a third party push email client, however that's irrelevant, because I thought it was related to the ROM, so I tried various ROMs (including stock) right after a clean install, with no applications installed except Battery Monitor Widget. Hence why I thought maybe it's just a false reading, since the actual lifespan of a full charge seems to be in line with what everyone else gets...
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I get 5-8mA with battery monitor widget and 10-14mA with current widget, I believe BMW not CW.

(this is with mobile data, auto-syn = off, although can still get this with wifi=on)

I did the same on my device, clean install both stock and LBC with formatted SD and new radio and still got low numbers and still do with latest LBC with all my apps on.
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
Disagree with what?
[HTC Desire S] Steinhund:
Maybe it's just a false reading, but where does it come from. And - as you wrote - in different ROMs. I tried different ROMs in the last two hours and all show 6 - 10 mA with BMW. Mhhhhh...?????
[HTC Desire S] djsubtronic:
It's weird, maybe it's the battery?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Good point....:o I've absolutely no idea what I was disagreeing with, if anything I agree with what you were saying :D, I believe that I started one sentence and then forgot what I was writing but never edited correctly..! Have made EDIT now to earlier post.
[HTC Sensation] vincentli119:
I was using t-zone with no throttle for sensation with t-zone

bill period start 25th and i got the gel case by 27th and i got throttle by 8-1-11

... is that the case problem(i provided my phone number when i buy the freaking case)???:confused:

SHould i return the case to try to erase that record???
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] DrReD:
i will like use my android as modem and sharing internet wi fi?...

:D

any idea for Xplay :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] arcticmedia:
Do you mean tethering or reverse tethering ?

If it's tethering just go to your wireless settings and thether

To reverse tether check this out

http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...verse-tether-getting-internet-your-phone.html
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Barakfel:
Hi,

I've been trying to play around with some system apps a little and it seems nothing i do works.

I use APK manager and I'm trying to tweak Mms.apk to insert more recipients (from 10 to 200). and also Phone.apk to stop the increasing ring.

I read what changes i need to do and did them (easy enough).

Then i push them to the phone and nothing, no change (not even a FC).

When i open the new apk i created i can verify the changes.

I'm on Villain Rom 2.4.2.

What am I missing?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killall:
Edit: Deleted posted in wrong thread sorry
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Barakfel:
Anyone?

Something?

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KinG_Ruin:
i faced this same problem few days ago

what you have to do is:-

go to Settings >> Applications >> Manage applications >> click on "All" tap >> chose the app that u edited .. let's say Messaging (mms.apk) >> Forec stop + clear data

now go back to the app and try to pick more than 10 recipients ;)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Barakfel:
First of all thanks.

I also modified phone.apk to cancel the increase ring feature, and tried to do what you said and nothing.

haven't check the mms.apk yet i'll try when I'll get home.

Any other solution or maybe anyone knows what do you need to modify for this maybe I'm missing something.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KinG_Ruin:
I dont know why it dosen't work, but make sure that your new codes are applied

i mean after you decompile the file and edit what you want then Compile it again

try to decompile it one time, then go to the files that you edited, see if they are applied or not, beacause maybe you have made something wrong and that's why it dosen't work

I'm sorry again about my bad english
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theprogram:
I am about to flash back to JF6 using Heimdall and the package found in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1191094&highlight=stock+heimdall

My question is that after I complete the return to JF6 what will I need to do in the way of bootloaders in order to flash to a ROM such as MIUI, Mosaic or CM? The thread also says it "should SIM lock the phone." In order to prevent that I need to take the SIM card out, correct? I thought that was supposed to be done anyway when going back to stock? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: I'm a Mac user and have been on Continuum 4.1, pretty much since it was released, so I am a newb to bootloaders.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
If you have not messed with boot loaders before there is no reason you have to flash stock and or boot loaders in order to flash CM7 or MIUI. They do not require GB boot loaders although you can use the captivate GB boot loaders, but since you are a Mac user you can not use the odin one click for them located in development.

Mossiac will require GB boot loaders which you will have to become more familiar with Heimdall and located the neccessary sbl and pbl for GB

Proceed with caution, boot loaders are the greatest risk to brick your phone. the flash only takes a second but if it fails at the wrong place, turn off the lights
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prbassplayer:
GB bootloaders aren't that hard to flash. Download the KF1 package from samfirmware.com and unpack everything and just set up where everything goes. If you need help there's a simple how to on MobileTechVideos.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] popfan:
Please note that there is already Odin one click I897 GB bootloaders in the Dev section.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prbassplayer:
He said Mac, I haven't seen 1 click Heimdall for it. Correct me if im wrong though.
[Droid 2 General] smokedkill:
I don't remember what I did to my Droid 2 (happened months ago), but it won't boot past the boot animation. After the Boot animation, the screen goes black. Is there anyway I can push recovery to the Droid 2 without the power being on so I can get this thing fixed. I believe the issue I'm having was caused when I tried to get the Netflix app working, but I never installed a recovery so I may be permanently bricked.
[Droid 2 General] DeBaKai:
If you are willing to use SDK and ADB, you can force the phone into it's root menu. Then go into the recovery from there. Also try the "volume down and power button" method to get into recovery.

You can also use SDK and ADB to force Clockworkmod onto your phone so you have that recovery to use instead.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dadyal:
Hello Pleas someone help us Modify wpa_supplicant file for android 2.3.3/2.3.4 to connect to adhoc network

here is some work ground

http://szym.net/2010/12/adhoc-wifi-in-android/

but i don't know how to do it
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xredshark:
+1

help we please!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rezam:
+1 the most important problem on Gingerbread roms is Ad-hoc problem

Please someone do a favor a solve this problem for ever

Thanks a lot
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jamalsid:
+1 I too would love to see someone fix this.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rezam:
Isn't there any answer to this thread?

No no one use adhoc network really ?!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jett77:
no one has an answer to this??? been looking for a solution but nothing?? as in 0???? 2.1 with achjton was able to do it..but now i'm on EWJET's latest but no luck!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jangyelo:
ad-hoc works well on cm7 and miui. And they are both on gingerbread.
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
I made a mistake and uninstalled the HTC Music Player - i know it's stupid - so is there any chance to get it installed!

/ Sent from my HTC IncS

using XDA Premium App /

/ Sent from my HTC IncS

using XDA Premium App /
[HTC Incredible S] danial.aw:
Just download the rom u have and extract it ... Use advanced to push it to /system/app
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] joygoku08:
Isnt there a possibility to get the Xperia x10 Mini Pro to capture videos in High Definition 720p?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] XxLordxX:
Sorry, but no, it happens because of your hardware, x10 mini Pro camera is very good, but still not enough to capture in HD. Fox example my friend has X10 and its 8.1mP so he spoke me he can capture in HD. Its because of his camera (8.1 O.o)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Sirquini:
It's because our phone don't have the power to encode video in HD the camera resolution have nothing to do with video recording.

For example some tablets (xoon) or phones (galaxy R) have 5mp camera and record video in HD.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] XxLordxX:
Sorry for my ignorant answer
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Theshawty:
VGA 640x480 is the highest possible.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DustArma:
As it has been said before, the X10 Mini and X10 Mini Pro simply don't have enough power to encode video in 720p and higher.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ruifung:
Just an idea... What about saving the raw video stream and encoding it on a pc... (yeah i know it takes a lot of space.)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] obsidian_eclipse:
Not sure what class of sd card you'd need, but the mb/s could still be greater than even class 10 could handle! HD raw is a lot of bits a second.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mrworldwide092:
most probably no

to check just play a 720p(mp4) on arcmedia ,it lags alot

i think it might be possible to record vid on lower framerate(15 or lower)...

Edit1

it has nothing to do with megapixelzz eg:web cams have 2mpx with 720p
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Raqib:
For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] achyut:
I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] achyut:
I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos :eek: :eek: :eek:???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] navispidey:
is there any video player which plays 720p videos??
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] obsidian_eclipse:
My media player only uses a 400mhz processor and 256mb RAM and can encode HD video from either DVB (already encoded to be fair) or analogue RGB input... However, the processor is geared towards media processing, in fact it was built to do that and that alone, if it was asked to render a simple vga 3D game it would probably output 1fps if anything at all!

Some processors are designed for specific tasks which they can do remarkably well, others are design to do many things but not quite as well. Software does play a mighty big part but it cannot overcome the constraints of the hardware in question.

Maybe other phones with HD recording have an inbuilt subprocessor or utilize functions inherant in Arm 7 but not Arm 6.. it might be possible to emulate the functions but the results might not be great.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mrworldwide092:
ITS very very very difficult

but nothing is imposible

see this:::

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=698287
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nobodyAtall:
I don't think that processing power is the limitation here for higher quality recording. This is what SE used to say for froyo or gb and it's plain crap proven repeatedly.

The problems are:

a) the sensor, i.e. is it capable of higher res. for video recording? 5mpixels are more that enough for 720p (i.e. like the N1) but there's more than the mpixels in the camera sensor to be able to do more.

b) we don't have kernel support for anything more than VGA. And this is sensor specific. If we ever got lucky and another msm7x27 device used this sensor and had better resolution we might have been able to investigate if it's usable.

c) we can't load custom kernels (this stops any other thoughts for the time being).
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mrworldwide092:
its not impossible

n8(680mhz)

omnia hd(600mhz)

Motorola MOTO MT716(600 android based:D))

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Raqib:
My friend, by the term "powerful" I meant the processing power too. If it is possible with Omnia HD's 600MHz then it is possible with 600MHz too. I have modded my old Motorola E2 which have a 1.3MPx camera & now I am able to record 720p at 17Fps with that. I just worked with kernel, because E2 runs linux & android is also using linux kernel I think it is possible. I am currently working on that. Let me see If I can prove you wrong
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] achyut:
buddy,dats da key point....we cannot yet load custom kernels :( :o :(

nd of omnia hd, or n8 or SE vivaz....dey r symbian. symbian is a lot "lighter" os dan android :rolleyes: but as sed, processin power is not actually da problem....lets keep fingrz crossd :o
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] emmanuelcassar:
now that we have kernel support.. is HD video recording possible??
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Lancerfq:
It will be worked on eventually by those who are making the custom kernels as far as I know
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DustArma:
I doubt it will be possible, even with Kernel support, the X10 Minis simply don't have enough power.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] emmanuelcassar:
It is possible with good kernel support and good camera drivers. There are other phones with same processing power which have HD Video Recording which are Symbian and also android devices. Also note, that when the Mini is overclocked, benchmarks state that it is as fast as other 1GHz CPU devices, such as Nexus One ( which was hacked for HD ), Motorola Droid X, etc..
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nakulp:
A lot of the progress will depend on the class of the SD cards used. Sadly my 16GB card is only class 2 i think!(maxx write speed of 3-4MB/s)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] emmanuelcassar:
Yes, MicroSD Class Speed does effect the HD recording also. A good combination of Software and Hardware, 720p will be possbile. Although there is alot of work to be done. First of all we need full CynogenMod support, which is the FreeXperia Project http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1211648 which then developers can move on with HD recording :)

Stunning work with this little device, can't imagine me reverting back to stock Rom, complete SE crap. I like the Mini's Hardware components though, and its very cheap to get and easy to mod :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] panamamike:
It would be great if the X10 mini could do higher resolution video recording. I know 720p is what most folks are hoping for, but don't forget WVGA. It would be nice just to get a 16:9 native video recording format.

At the end of the day I see the following challenges.

1: Camera drivers: This is typically where things end up falling short.

2: GPU power: I believe the reason some lower power phones are capable of the 720p feat is due to specialized mp4 encoding hardware or more powerful gpus. The X10 mini GPU is rather weak.

I'll keep my fingers crossed since the X10 has a pretty nice cam.

Mike
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nomailx:
Isn't it possible with overclocking?

Cause I read all this thread and if I read correctly, no one suggested the most basic of the ideas:

Overclocking.

The kernel and drivers can be fixed somehow. An app which overclocks the processor while recording could make the 720p thing possible.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheInfekted:
For a whole week now I've been trying to use miui and it fails I've tried every flash method nothing works one minute the rom is fine then every app had a screwed up permission a reboot fixes it and then it breaks again can someone please help me

Sent from my miui revamped vibrant
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bfranklin1986:
Have you tried fixing permissions in recovery? Every time I flash miui I end up flashing something else in a week or so. Battery life is always horrible for me and there's always some other bugs that creep up. So awesome looking though.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheInfekted:
I fix permissions at least 5 times every flash that's how often things break