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[T-Mobile LG G2x] *Omnipresent*:
I'm looking for the Samsung phone with biggest screen that's pocketable, to replace my dell streak. I believed the Hercules to be that phone. Looks like there is a new sheriff in town:eek:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Looks like the galaxy s II is.official as of August 29th to the USA.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr mystery:
Except for that Snapdragon processor :rolleyes:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
But if you think about it, everyone's judging the chip based on HTC's implementation of it. If Samsung properly utilizes both cores, hardware accelerates the browser, and provides the same video codec support they do in the original SGS2 it may turn out the chip's great and HTC sucks at software implementation. I really don't think they'd put the Galaxy S II brand on it unless it performs well. It'll also be clocked at its full 1.5Ghz potential vs. the underclocked Sensation/E3D at 1.2Ghz. If it's anything like the original SGS2 at least the software will be tight with no erratic Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and 2/3/4G behavior. I have over 100 apps on my SGS2 and haven't had a FC or had to take the battery cover off since May.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Lets just wait and see what processor it actually releases with or gets announced in the official spec sheet. At this point, it's just speculation as to what processor it's shipping with. Even if it is the Snapdragon, Samsung will probably have a lot better drivers than HTC which means a performance increase. Believe it or not, the Adreno 220 is currently the best mobile GPU available on paper. HTC just sucks with drivers and optimization.

I still think the Hercules will have the Exynos. I am speculating this due to Samsung wanting the everyone in each region to have the same chipset. I would also think that Samsung saved some of it's flagship chips for one of it's best markets.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
I don't think it's chip availability, I'm guessing going with Qualcomm gives them a ready-made solution for T-Mobile's funky AWS bands. If they used Exynos they'd either have to develop or pay someone to develop a compatible radio and then create software for it which could either take too much time or cost too much money. There's not a lot of sales for AWS phones to spread development costs over. It'll be interesting to see what chip VZW's LTE and Sprint's Wi-Max versions have. Since AT&T's version is HSPA+ they could use the existing chip/radio if they wanted to. I guess we'll find out officially on the 29th.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
They kept their Hummingbird in the Vibrant. The Qualcomm chip everyone says is going in the Hercules doesn't even have a built in radio. The radio is being added on. They can add a external radio next to the Exynos just as easily as they can add it next to the Snapdragon MSM 8260.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
I see some HTC bashing in here. Makes me smile lol

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Anything Samsung makes me smile. Maybe you can smile knowing that your beloved LG will never produce phones or TV's as good as Samsung can. Nor will they ever catch Samsung in either of those two departments. Samsung is is on a whole different level.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Separated at birth? ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kirdroid:
Coming october 27th.

HTC Ruby and Samsung Hercules release dates leak out – Android and Me : http://androidandme.com/2011/08/devices/htc-ruby-and-samsung-hercules-release-dates-leak-out/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] robavila721:
Hercules has a snapdragon :(

Sent from my LG-P999
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Dude, why do you troll these forums? Sure, you still have your G2x but you never say anything about the phone that isn't negative...

You hate the phone, but keep it...you post here in anticipation of getting flamed, in fact you seem to enjoy it...what's the deal? Masochistic? Self-loathing maybe? Or, on the other hand, some sort of superiority complex? I just don't get it? Really... :confused:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
Oh, and I have no brand loyalty...but apparently I got a good G2x, so, I'll be keeping it until next summer/fall. Hopefully, there will be a real game changer or two out by then. That is, if T-Mobile isn't swallowed by the evil empire before then. If that happens, I guess I'm checking out Sprint's best and brightest.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
I can not read this thread without hearing Eddie Murphy saying "Hercules Hercules"
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Of course.....You say nothing about the troll I quoted. Why not? Because he was talking bad about a different manufacture other than the phone you use?

I just got talking good about the G2X in regards to its faster UI, better feel and build quality than the Sensation and great gaming capabilities. I'm not going to live in a fantasy world and say everything is good about it when its not. And of course you turn a blind eye to all the **** I talk about the Sensation. Like I said before. Just because I own a phone, doesn't mean I'm going to praise it. These companies are releasing half baked **** and people like you are ok with it.

Last time I checked, I am not brand loyal either. Being that I'm currently using somthing from HTC, Samsung and LG.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] AllGamer:
Samsung has a good reputation of open bootloader and easy root

since it is a Galaxy II, it is already rooted and unlocked for the other variants already, it wouldn't be much different/harder to unlock/root the new sibling model
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
Yea and now Samsung has Steve kondik from cm, Samsung is stepping up big time building quality phone's and now I'm sure roms
[T-Mobile LG G2x] AllGamer:
I was actually really surprised when i heard the news

having the Dev from CM working for Samsung directly, that means amazing ROMS comming out

heck people might not even need to hack the ROMs anymore, probably the next incarnation of Samsung phones might have CM7 or CM8 preloaded from factory :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] supersilko:
Man if hercules comes out with snapdragon I'm backing out.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] freakboy13:
Funny ... I post one negative or disapproval of Samsung and I'm a troll??? Hahaha..

Whatevah... this is a g2x forum I'm not gonna support a crappy phone maker.

Yes its my opinion, am I not allowed tohave that here in my home forum?

The real trolls are the g2x bashers and haters, not me. I had 2 Samsung phones and they were garbage one of them being the galaxy s.

But I digress. Hate me for supporting the g2x. I think its BS coming into a g2x forum, saying g2x sucks and pumping upsome other phone. Mods am I wrong for voicing my opinion even if you don't agree?

"a phone to make you numb, a phone to make you dumb, a phone to make you anybody else...

All the roms in this world... wont save you from yourself"
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Was it an international Galaxy S (GT-i9000) or one of its bastard offspring that a U.S. carrier mutilated? A lot of anger directed at Samsung should be redirected to the U.S. carriers that refuse available updates, disable functionality, and load the phones up with carrier-specific crap. If you read the GT-i9000 forum, the phone has its flaws, but receiving frequent updates has never been an issue.

And this thread is a discussion of a phone other than the G2X. So the "home town team" rules don't apply.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
If Samsung is a crappy phone maker then what does that make LG. HAHA.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Benchmark results were just posted on Engadget for the Hercules. They said earlier reports pointed towards a Qualcomm Snapdragon but the benchmark results show it is more in line with the Exynos. Great news here boys.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ThC23:
I own both a Samsung and a LG TV and I personally like the LG better, so not sure where you're coming from with this.

Samsung does make better phones, but not TVs.

....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr mystery:
I use a Samsung 19' TV for watching Netflix from my lappy in my office and I have a 19' LG in my bedroom. Absolutely no comparison LG completely mops the floor with the Samsung. LG TV's > Samsung
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
I agree. I have a 50in plasma LG and its just awesome.

As for the hurcules, the screen size is really drawing me in, regardless of the processor.

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spyvie:
I'll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYQQoYfMtQ
[T-Mobile LG G2x] grenademasta:
I wasn't that surprised when Samsung hired him. Afterall, they gave free Samsung Galaxy SII phones to they whole Cyanogen team. What other phone manufacturer would do this? Would you ever see Apple doing this? No they would just reject an app, then steal it an put it in their new IOS like they did to the poor guy with the wifi sync app.

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-wifi-sync-greg-hughes-2011-6
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
I liked it when he punched the bear in Central Park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjZfAGgE2M
[T-Mobile LG G2x] LordButtersI:
"Wifi Sync" it's about as generic as a name can get and that logo is the only logical one for such an app: Apple's own sync and wifi logos combined.

That's not ripping someone off, that's just two different people using generic design philosophies.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
You do realize their are different tier TV's I hope. Then you have to account for the year they were both made in and the source and signal strength coming in to them from the same type of converter. Then you have the same type of cable delivering the signal to each set. Their is to many factors in setting like your house to compare them in. I can find a better looking LG TV if the LG I purchase is high end and the Samsung is mid to low end. Then you run into calibration settings. I guess it could all come down to personal preference. Not to mention, LG mostly make budget TV's. Dont get me wrong, they look very good for the price but a high end LG cant touch a high end Samsung. Im not talking $3,000 TV's. Im talking $5,000 and 600 hz refresh rates. Usually you see Samaung at the top of the list for best looking picture on a high end TV. The actual Samsung unit just looks sexier as well. You really cant find a sexier looking bezle than the Samsung 7000. The picture just looks like its melting into the wall.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spyvie:
I've heard some horror stories about LG TV warranty service and support going back a few years. Just Google "lg warranty sucks" or do a search over on AVS forums.

LG does make some of the very best home appliances money can buy. Their refrigerators and washer/dryers are good stuff, though I imagine the warranty might suck if you ever did need it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ahspyerr:
im def selling my g2x for the hercules
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Your right. Their warranty sucks on everything. I had a set of LG front loaders (washer and dryer) about 2 years ago and the dryer stopped working. I only had them for a little over 1 year and they told me they wouldn't fix it due to operator error. They tried saying we put to heavy of a load in. After that fiasco we bought a set of Samsung front loaders and not only does the dryer dry a full load of laundry in under 30 minutes, almost half the time the LG did but we've had them for over 2 years with not a single problem. Mind you, were putting the same amount of cloths in them as we did with the LG. After that I swore I would never buy anything LG but I had to get the G2X since I wanted a good gaming phone and I also purchased a LG 22 in. LED for our kitchen since it was cheaper than anything else while still being decent.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spyvie:
We have a newer LG washer dryer set, a little over a year old. Works great, definitely dries a load in under 30 min. Sticker on the front says 10 year warranty on direct drive motor... so far so good. We also have a way cool LG fridge with all the bells and whistles that we are happy with.

I thought LG was a brand I could more or less trust before my G2x experience.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Yea, that makes sense. The LG dry was a couple years older than the Samsung so I should take that into account. Do you have the LG fridge with the TV/Tablet built into it? Im trying to talk my wife into letting us get a fridge with one. So far its a no go but the last time we were in Best Buy I was like, "look babe, you can write me honey do lists on it" and she did have some second thoughts about it. The next time we go im going to show her that she can listen to Pandora through it and keep all of her recipes. That will probably be the icing on the cake.

I understand its kind of pointless but in my opinion its more of a conversation piece and a status thing if you know what I mean.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cashyftw:
I'm definitely getting one, Ive been wanting this phone since I heard of it, my only issue would be updates.

Sent from my sensation 4g whatever.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tweezit:
I will be getting it just so I have another dev phone but I will not be getting rid of my G2X as I like this phone even if it has some issues. (not like all phones don't) ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] wu_wei_lion:
The graphics chip will be Adreno 220 if they use the Snapdragon 1.2ghz dual core soc. Not as good as the Mali that's on the Exynos, from what I hear. I'll be checking out the 1.5 ghz HTC before I make a decision. If performance isn't noticeably better than the g2x I'm waiting for quad core
[T-Mobile LG G2x] AllGamer:
nice! :)

thanks for the update
[T-Mobile LG G2x] AllGamer:
if you look at the I9000 forum or SGS2 forum, you will see there are no shortage of updates

that includes vibrant and other mutilated offspring versions :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
After my experience, I wouldn't even by an LG toaster.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Fasinationinmotion:
Samsung knows exactly what to do with the processor and the GPU. They can bring its full potential out unlike HTC. All the variants of this phone will be top dog probably for the next 6 to 8 months. Even over the Prime which will probably be running a 1.2Ghz Tegra 2. And for those of you talking about a quad core phone your looking at the end of next year. The quads a CES are going to be tablet. One in particular the new Transformer said to be the first quad core.

All in all if you have the money get the phone because it will be king for a while.

As for me depending on the specs of the Function I will probably be switching to T Mobile for this phone. Though the 100/50 mbps LTE sounds almost to good to be true.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Endless Mike:
No, no, this is an Android forum. You're supposed to hate everything Apple does with a passion.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] :
me wants mytouch 4g slide.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I agree with everything you said about Samsung knowing how to unleash the full potential of its CPU/GPU with its drivers. Your right man. HTC sucks at drivers and optimizing their hardware/software.

One thing your wrong about is the Nexus Prime. It will not have a Tegra II. It will be made by Samsung and it will be sporting a 1.5 ghz OMAP CPU. It will also have a AMOLED HD display with 720p resolution on a 4.5 inch panel. The biggest selling point of all will be that the Prime is shipping with Ice Cream Sandwich and will be released in October. I think I might have to hold out for the Prime providing it will be on T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Why?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
Why? HTC hardware, while it looks nice is cheap and outdated or under powered in some ways. Screens on most htc phones are crap and are useless outdoors, sense crap and the ever concerning battery life that HTC can never get right, and the lowly and poor sounding speakers that don't sound any better than a 1988 Honda civic exhaust with a fart can on it.

Ill never buy an HTC device ever again.

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Fasinationinmotion:
See all that is speculation. (Except shipping with ICS) OLED has reported that the AMOLED HD screens wont be ready for phones until early 2012. And the OMAP processor is one of 3 processors that people believe will be in it. Also looking at the Exynos and the Tegra 2.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] joser24:
http://www.hiphoppress.com/2011/08/dr-dre-makes-bank-with-beats.html

hopefully with the addition to this sound quality will improve.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
So...nexus prime news.

http://tinyurl.com/44838s6
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
Probably thru the headphones. Now HTC decides to go ghetto rapper beats instead of putting money into better battery life, making sense an optional download and putting higher quality screens that you can use in the daylight and display colors better. Pfft

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kirdroid:
Wait for the Nexus prime. Upcoming samsung phones leaked with launch dates. GT-I9250 has super amoled HD display, ice cream sandwich, releasing on week 48 (nov end).

http://phandroid.com/2011/08/18/new-samsung-roadmap-leaked-now-with-expected-launch-dates/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Nobody makes better phones than LG. Do they?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Lol that was a joke yes?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Yes sir. He thinks LG makes better phones than HTC and Samsung. It really is funny. There's a reason why they sell 10 times more Android devices than LG. If they didn't make quality devices, they wouldn't be doing so well.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] supersilko:
I think samsung has the best camera so far that I seen from galaxy s2 and infuse 4g.

sent from a phone
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
I never said anyone was best, just saying HTC is lame. And they sell more android devices because they pump out more garbage that runs android.

Every company has built a pile of **** at some point. Samsung made that pile of **** phone for sprint called the sch3500. Motorola released a few, specifically the t720. Samsung also made a few crappy Verizon windows phones, rim made a dud with the storm line (ironically my storm 1 was awesome to me) and so on and so on............LG probably made a few bad TV models same as Samsung. No company is perfect but some are better than others.

In regards to LG specifically, any LG phone I had in the past was awesome, and never caused me problems. For me.....LG has been great, for others anything can happen. As for HTC and me, in terms of reliability as a whole they worked ok, but overall I was left unimpressed and longevity I don't know because I never kept one more than 6 months because I moved on to something better....HTC does a great job of reeling customers in, and since a good 90% of cell users are generally lame they don't know the real difference between the devices overall and will buy what looks nice in their hand, or looks like a quality status item, which HTC does do nice with on many devices.

HTC has become the big dog in smartphones today, like how a gm vehicle is to rental fleets. They look respectable and solid, but really they don't truly satisfy beyond a certain point, so you go and drive a Mercedes and realize its a superior vehicle and can easily forget GM even exists.

HTC is GM .... and some high end marketed android hardware devices can be classified as a Mercedes. For devices I have used, the G2x is not exactly a Mercedes but maybe a high end Lincoln compared to the mt4g, G2, and some other HTC devices I owned in the past.

While my G2x has been good to me overall with no more issues than any other devices I owned in the past I know some of you all here had big issues. Some were overly picky while most were legit problems.

I am considering a Hercules because of its screen size. While I love my G2x ill sacrifice it for a bigger screen. I will admit tho, as much as I love to get new stuff all the time, I am quite satisfied with what I have now, and have not had any second thoughts to want another device until I saw this 4.5 inch screen. Beyond that, no other specs overall really tempt me to want to leave my G2x.

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I don't exactly like using HTC phones either but I don't just dismiss them by saying they make infior products. Some of there phones have been the best Android devices ever made and most of there phones outside of the MyTouch line are extremely well constructed with materials other than plastic.

In the end, I think Samsung is making the best Android phone right now. Buying the Hercules over the G2X gives you more percs than just the larger display. It gives you more overall power, more and faster internal memory, better camera for still shots and video, more RAM, better email and contact clients and finally. A more solid device since after all, its shipping with a backing made of aluminum alloy.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] *Omnipresent*:
Dont forget the Hercules is 42Mbps HSPA+ capable (category 24 HSDPA and category 6 HSUPA) and is supposed to have AT&T's 850/1900 MHz bands as well. Yeah right on the latter, lol. It would be icing on the cake, if it were true:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
More ram is nice, the g2x has good speed but faster is always nice lol.

As for the better hspa speeds, I have never seen over 7meg down locally so I doubt it will matter much. For me, that screen size is the big deal, everything else will be the same and probably better than the g2x.

As for HTC, I gave up on them after years of products that just don't cut it when better products exist. Indont care how well built a phone is when it has other inferior specs. HTC can spend less money on making it feel and look well built than using higher end components. HTC also burned my taste for them back in the ppc 6700 era. I know win mo is not android but my Treo 700wx worked near perfect, had good battery life, and always did its job with minimal need to reboot. HTC windows devices were trash. Mostly software issues.

G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
HTC is actually using one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Its the way they optimize their phones and bog them down with Sense. It also seems they cant make drivers worth ****. This link shows just how powerful the Snapdragon in the new HTC's is.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
That link is bad info. For starters it was using an old benchmark app that didn't read the tegra right. It shows the hummingbird being faster lmao. Also the new CPU I clocked at 1.5 which still barely bested last Gen chips.

Asus Transformer 3.2 pwnd

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[T-Mobile LG G2x] KingDavid63:
yea i seen the hummingbird scoring higher and was like wtf?!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
There is no perfect benchmark but there isn't just one benchmark on that webpage. There are multiple benchmarks that show the Tegra in front of the Hummingbird. Did you see the rest or is everyone of them wrong? I don't find it surprising at all that the Hummingbird can beat the Tegra in a certain benchmark. Each CPU is better at doing something than the rest. It's only 1 test out of 10. It's not like they had the Hummingbird in front of the Tegra in every test.

Either way, what I was trying to point out is that the hardware HTC uses is more than capable. It's HTC's ****ty ass drivers along with BLOATSENSE that holds them back.

PS. I don't think Amandtech is misinforming it's readers by altering benchmark scores.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KingDavid63:
Sense is not holding them back, its there freaking money maker, its on damn near every device they put out. Its there signature. Its what you get when you buy an

Htc phone and you know that getting it and truth be told I don't see why you would buy san htc phone if you didn't like it. I myself like sense probably will go back to it when this feels obsolete, damn near impossible to port sense to a non htc device but really easy to get aosp on an htc device so to me htc= best of both worlds. Sense gets A little better and a little faster with every upgrade too.

Sent from my LG-P999