yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[About XDA developers] C0mbe:
All,

I've decided that rather than start attacking some of the forum users whose conduct I don't agree with, I'd write an opinion and a suggestion.

Let me start by saying, that I love XDA. Before I became a member, I spent countless hours reading through threads on these forums. Admittedly, prior to discovering the Nexus One I was an iPhone user, and apple fanboy. I can honestly say that XDA helped cure me of that.

I am not a developer. I use these forums as a method of learning how to enhance my phone; to build a working knowledge of Android; with a hope to one day I will be able to repay the Devs who helped me with original work of my own. Lately, as many people have already stated, I've noticed that the quality of discussion in many forum threads has gone down significantly. The mods do an excellent job of keeping threads on topic, and cleaning useless posts, however, I think its getting to be too much for them. This is my attempt to provide advice to new users, and to suggest a possible course of action to help correct the conduct that is a cancer on this great site.

I've seen threads where Dev's are threatened if they don't release ROMs, where people demand ETAs. Team Hacksung, who worked tirelessly to release CM7 for the SGS2 actually had to threaten to leave XDA to bring order to their development thread. I've also seen threads degrade into rascism and discrimination, threats of violence and bigotry. None of this is acceptable, and will serve no other goal than forcing developers to leave XDA.

People need to understand a few things:

[*] Dev's work is done on their own free-time

[*] Dev's work is done for no compensation other than the gratitude of their peers and the occasional donation.

[*] Dev's are under no obligation to release ANYTHING to the members of XDA - If they don't feel their work is ready, or they aren't ready to share it, you have no right to demand it released.

[*] Access to Dev work is a privilege that can easily be revoked; NOT A RIGHT.

In addition to the excellent and trying job that the moderators already undertake, I suggest the following apply to anyone not recognized as a developer:

[*] There is a 3 strike rule with regards to posting in each development section. Any posts deemed to be off-topic, not-relevant, hateful, malicious, rascist, etc should be deemed a strike. I would not include obvious jokes, sincere mistakes, attempts to be helpful, etc as a strike. My goal is not to discourage participation, but to discourage comments designed to be harmful.

[*]Strike 1 is a warning, Strike 2 is a one week ban from posting within the development forums, strike 3 is a permanent ban from posting within the development forums.

Moderators would be responsible for determining what is a strike based on a pre-determined criteria.

My 2c, take it or leave it..

C0mbe
[About XDA developers] github:
"In a perfect world..."
[About XDA developers] C0mbe:
This is an internet forum, not the world... you can be as punitive as you like...
[About XDA developers] cajunflavoredbob:
I think your suggestions are too lenient. In the six years I've been here, the mods have only gotten more and more lax in the rules with the influx of Android users. It used to be that if you said something retarded or offensive, it was an automatic ban. Now, it seems as though it takes an act of congress to get an abusive user removed. Don't worry, though. Their are some changes coming soon that will help out tremendously.
[About XDA developers] tx_dbs_tx:
Rule with an Iron Fist!!!

I agree and it's quite simple. Have respect and decency toward others and remember this is a "family oriented" site/community and that needs to be respected. I have stated my advice elsewhere in the forums that XDA needs to start ruling with an "IRON FIST" and keep this site enjoyabe and respectable as it should be. I stand behind that and always will. It is the best way to run the forums otherwise it will turn into a battleground of idiots envoking arguments, name calling, etc. I personally take offense to people who attack others in the forums and elsewhere on XDA. I have probably gotten a little out of line in the past a couple of times but that was due to others' attacks and flaming.

If you feel you should be allowed freedom of speech and explicit visual interpretation/expressionon on XDA, then this isn't the community for you. XDA holds the right to moderate it's site and forums as they see fit. In this case XDA chooses to run a family friendly site instead of a free-for-all slugfest site and I'm in favor of that. This is not directed to anyone in particular, nor do I pass judgement on anybody it's just my thoughts. Leave the hate/foul mouth comments in your world not here @XDA.

I think XDA is the best "go-to" site for all smartphone development needs and resources and that is how everybody should want to keep it. I bet most of you will agree. Do your part by helping and respecting others AT ALL TIMES. Please don't post hate comments, intentional troll provoking/explicit behavior/expressions, hateful/attitude remarks here at XDA.

Thanks for reading.
[About XDA developers] github:
I didn't want to elaborate, but meh I'm bored. You are not the first to post about this, and won't be the last. It will get buried, and life will go on. I mean, there was already a thread about this in this very forum... and it's one of the top 5 right now.

It's a world wide forum. People will post stuff you don't like. PM a moderator and tell them about it and move on. Or use the ignore list. There are new users both new to phones AND the internet/computers. They will make mistakes and ask questions (ETAs and such). At the end of the day, it's the internet. Does it really bother you so much that someone "demanded" an ETA? Made a disrespectful comment?

An old saying works wonders here. If I had $1 for every "XDA is dying" post, I'd be very wealthy.

P.S. I also heard that the sky is falling.

Yes, bans! bans! more bans! RAWR BANHAMMER. That's the way to encourage growth. Everyone knows that a police state is what is needed.
[About XDA developers] cajunflavoredbob:
This has nothing to do with site growth. It never has. If you break the rules, you get punished. It's that simple. You can try ignoring useless or inflaming comments all you want, but all that does is allow the behavior to continue. Obviously, catering to the behavior and becoming more lenient didn't work. The result is that the mods are now beginning to crack down harder again. This is the direction the site is now going. This site is about developers, not troubleshooting.

Users should learn manners and respect or go somewhere else. That's the main point. It isn't our job here to teach people the manners their parents could not. That's why the site isn't named XDA-Babysittingservice.com.
[About XDA developers] macdaddyau:
It the world wide web there are bound to be idiots out there. If they start banning these people there be just me and the mods left!!
[About XDA developers] C0mbe:
No, each and every demand for an ETA or disrespectful comment does not bother me that much, and of course I understand that its the internet. Its very easy to behave like an idiot when you are hiding behind pixels. Its really the totality of the circumstances that I am referring to. The object of XDA is for individuals to share development information with the common goal of improving Android phones. If the purpose of the site is lost in all the ETAs and disrespectful comments, then what is the point? Certainly, the point is not to lose developers...

Call me whatever you like, your admission that there are multiple complaints like mine on each sub-forum is proof that there is a problem with member conduct on the site. And I did say that my OP was my own opinion, and my 2c.

Who says you need a police state? I'm merely talking about adding rules to encourage and enforce order on the forums. And no one wants growth for the sake of growth. A small site that is efficient and has a high number of contributing members will always be better than a large site where the sheer volume of junk posts dilute the contributing members.

Plus, at the end of the day, all anyone really has on the internet is a voice. Thus, the ban remains the most effective method of controlling poor conduct.
[About XDA developers] TheRomMistress:
It appears you guys have not read the site admins latest announcement...I advice u do ;)
[About XDA developers] github:
That's fine and all. But does it address the time it takes to actually report problem posts (instead of just complain about them)? Having to PM forum mods that either gave up on your forum, or don't even visit that forum isn't exactly encouraging.

Or will the forums stop becoming void of moderators (like over in EVO 4G land, where I can't remember the last time we had moderator participation besides the banhammer here and there, or moved threads that I report). Will we start seeing more moderator participation?

Of course, my last posts here were worded to spark conversation (and that they did). I am happy to see this latest development, but still feel that it falls short of what is needed. Hopefully there is more in the works.
[About XDA developers] cajunflavoredbob:
The report system is being reworked. The site improvements will take some time to roll out fully. Things are going back to the earlier days here. Everyone needs to learn how to act right or reap what they sow.
[About XDA developers] TheRomMistress:
What he said
[About XDA developers] github:
Thanks. I actually moved this into it's own post/question, as it is kind of offtopic from what OP was discussing.
[Acer Iconia A500] ddpruel:
I'm fairly new to android, and rooting and custom roms and all that :P i have an a500 with the minimalistic 3.2 rom, and but this has happened with any other custom roms or stock firmwares aswell (all rooted)..

Anyway, ill use this as an example, one time, and I was trying to install the samsung Ebook.apk and it required a separate sytem app, and everyone said move this other app (my files. Apk.) to system / apps and change permissions, I've tried with several file managers and it always says that it is read only,

This happens when trying to move files to other system folders... Isn't rooting supposed to give me access to these and let me edit files or put files there ect

I'm probably just stupid, but but any help would be appreciated
[Acer Iconia A500] TheChillburger:
Can you just push the files with ADB and edit the permissions?

I could not get ES File Explorer to gain root permissions with the Minimalist Rom, but the ADB method worked for me (installing Polaris Office).
[Acer Iconia A500] ddpruel:
I've heard a lot about adb but have never used it.. Ill look it up and see if I can set it up... thanks :)
[Acer Iconia A500] snickle:
use root explorer. Great file manager and gives youba button to mount the filesystem r/w
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
You need to remount the relevant folders as read/write. Most file explorers can do it. Most people swear by Root Explorer, but that's pay software. I use ES File Manager, which is free. :p
[Acer Iconia A500] ddpruel:
Thanks a lot :) but but how do i change permissions with root explorer? I (i am supposed i change them to 644)
[Acer Iconia A500] TheChillburger:
I could not get ES File Explorer to gain permissions with this rom.
[Blade General] chrisredmayne:
I've been using the Facebook web page today instead of the app and have 70 percent left now when I'm normally a lot lower, is this app the cause of poor battery performances? Any tests been done on this?
[Blade General] xmdroid:
Sometimes it not the app it self but some other running in the background,facebook does consume some batery,since you used wifi or 3g going to facebook and transfering all of the pictures and info it will consume batery and you seen,but try the facebook app,i think it is better for the batery,because its optimized.
[Blade General] SamSamoon:
Use task-killer?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
So long story short, I put my phone in the freezer and now it won't turn on? Is this a bad thing :p

On the bright side however, I have a quadrant score of 4108

Thanks :o
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
nope u fried your phone, now its time to upgrade :D:D:D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Will holiday insurance cover this? :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
So long story short, I put my d1ck in the blender and turned it on? Is this a bad thing :p

On the bright side however, I have blood all over the place

Thanks :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
it should, if it doesnt, just join the riots and your bound to loot a sensation :D:D:p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Lmao I actually lolled, no it is not a bad thing, it finally gave a use for your penis... xD XD /troll :p (Buuuuurnnn!)

Just waiting for mistress to delete our otnes ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XDXD what a great idea, and many more :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
I know im full of them :p, now waiting for TRM :D:D:D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD that you are :p

XD XD
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
does your phone really not turn on??
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Yes really, tried it twice as soon as I got it out and like 5 mins later.. :eek:

Also if it helps it was placed next to some garlic bread and a Ben and Jerrys Ice cream, if you need to know the specific flavour please do ask :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
Did you all get bored of Off Topic? :)

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
no, we can never get bored of OT :p, and @ max, was else was besides their? that may help in discovering y it wont turn on....
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
So is max being serious or did he just want to bring some off topic fun to the DZ forums?

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
hes being serious, he was complaining in OT about it, so he brought it here for help, and we are trynna help, but he wont say what else was in the freezeer!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
Why did he put it in the freezer in the first place? :p

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
he overclocked to 2.00 GHZ too get a 4000 score on quadrant, and now it wont turn on lol
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
@max was it worth it?

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Ah okay well being a holiday freezer there wasn't much I'll try get a picture ASAP , the ice cream flavour was strawberry shortcake and on the shelf above are some ice cubes, 12 to be exact and then another empty mold, the molds are both red and the garlic bread brand is easibake, if it helps :p

Oh don't worry ;) were still posting there too :rolleyes::p but I'm Serious

And no, not him

xD

Yes I am , xD And yes it was worth it, managed to get a screen and upload to Google + wish I got a screen of the temps though, and then the temps of it in the freezer :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
I tried turning on again, no dice
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
Have you tried putting it in the oven? Maybe with a joint of beef.

Can I have a link to google+ so I can have a look at the pics

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Na I haven't XD, don't know if I even have an oven here, would a microwave do? And would ham also do? :p:D

Heres the pic :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
Any meat would be good. :p

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
turkey is best in this situation, and i think the empty ice cube tray had something to do with this, go make 12 more ice cubes and put it in the freezer and try again
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
was the battery in when you put it there?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Good, I'll try turkey :p

Okay thank you, I shall buy some turkey ASAP, XD lmao, yeah that's what in thought too, I'll go ahead and try :D

Yes, it was benchmarking when I put it in there :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
That made me lol :p

I don't know about the fry ( exuse pun) because it was like an ice pack when I got it out, but after over 50 benchmarks later at almost 2ghz it could be :p and it was more than warm enough when I put it in for it to condense (55c) xD
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
check the water sticker thingy on the battery or ur phone, if it is red, ur doomed
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
so how long b4 this thread gets locked???
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Water sticker? That the White thing on the bottom? It's White , that's good? Right? :p :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
10 mins after Mistress signs in :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
You could try and appeal to the mistresses sense of humor :p

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD :D,

No sexist jokes this time Husam :p

I'm starting to think I should've stopped when the paint was melting :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
yes :p

it once happened to me max, i put my phone in the freezer, i was tethering HSDPA in summer and my phone gave me an overheat signal

just remove the battery and wait an hour or so
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
WTF!!!???? :eek:

ok maz, forget about my previous comment, you're doomed
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Ahh okay :D thanks :p

XDXD lmao, I forgot to mention that in this thread didn't I? :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
no you didn't

see you in the iphone forums?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
I'm not going iPhone :eek:If worst happens I have to get a sgs2 but I'd haaate to do that... :rolleyes:;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
that's what they all say...

remember Erick? he bricked his samsung and we haven't seen him since :eek:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Erick? Erick is the main poster here xD:p

And naa I wont they're so boring and I won't be able to benchmark it :eek::eek::eek::p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
if it didn't work by the next year, you should start considering a new phone
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD next year!?! That's a bit early, I'll keep trying for at least 2 :p:p:p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
one final question

are you sure the battery isn't dead?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
How could I tell? If i had a Christmas ligt I could tell, I once powered one from my battery, I'll try turn on from mains, if I don't reply it exploded and I'm dead. :D wish me luck ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
RIP max :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
You, Husam, are a-mazing :p it wooorks! :Dtime for more ocing! :p however I'm slightly disappoint would notbhave minded a sgs :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
*boooooom*
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
thx max :p

I still haz teh brainz (i thought i lost them)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD no, thank you :p lol, now the mistress has a reason to close :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
No!!!! My phone is broked too ... can I haz some advice?

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
Thank u I try my hardest

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
Um right here :mad:

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husam666:
oh hey erick xD

I just wanted a story :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD its because your software is out if date, 2.3.762 is the newest, everyone knows 2.3.5 is a dud :rolleyes: ill give you a download link if you want but being android it costs $15 please :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Anytime xD you should be proud :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Liar ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
i tought 3.2 was the newest???
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
you liar!!!! TRM will whip u!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Newest gingerbread :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
She's on, lets summon her :p

Mistress, mistress Mistress, mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress mistress etc. XD
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackknightavalon:
No, you have to stand in front of a mirror and say "TheRomMistress" five times. And next time, surround your phone with Haagen-Dazs.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
She never came to visit us :(

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
Operation Iron Fist is in full effect. She's probably banning someone for the pwn, and not for the lulz :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
What? She been a mod today?

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
Even if she isn't, the operation is in full effect and we'd best stay out of it. For now.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
we shall lay low untill we can strike again...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
Soon, pinky, soon...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
did we really just get off topic in a different forum?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
Not sure. I'm keeping at least 5-7 threads floating with you, and I have no idea what are we talking about unless I scroll up a little.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
Bump to the top untill a mod notices this and closes it, (hope it's not pulser G2)

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD why not, also that'd be ironic.. G2 :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Here is the fridge in question xD

It was placed at the rear right :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mputtr:
3.2 = tablet. 'nuff said
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Read it all ;) he was joking :D:p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mputtr:
/sigh

i figured this whole thread is a joke. I should've read it but I was afraid of brain rot.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
I was serious though, it wouldn't tun on :eek: You should it's a good read ;) but fair enough, :p :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
Congrats Mr Smarty pants u can haz cookie noe

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T.C.P:
No wonder the ice cubes

Melted and shorted the battery

Sent from a phone with android 2.3.5
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
Phahahahahah :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacaronyMax:
XD was my description close? :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjward23:
Did one of you give favours to TheRomMistress? ;)

How on earth is this thread still open :cool: