yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Accessories] dragonnn:
And what whit this corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list I think (I can't post it as url because I don't have eight posts)Ace have gorilla glass, but it isn't so indestructible how they say. I have on my Ace a small crack and my friend have on his Galaxy S a crack too.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Accessories] hairie199:
yea ! i've seen that link. galaxy ace does have gorilla glass . but maybe its just not that effective ? :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Accessories] scoffyburito:
First Gen gorilla glass?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Accessories] hairie199:
Possibly. 1st gen or not. its not bullet proof . id take the screen protector just to be safe.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Accessories] crueldevil19:
screen protectors tend to be rough in the beginning......but after few days we dont even feel they are there!!
[HTC Sensation] Syns:
i can not recv screen shots as mms, error is The media content was not included due to a picture resolution or message size restriction, i download Largermms and its set to 1000k but can not recv them. i can recv mms that are 70.05kb but nothing larger then that plz help :)
[HTC Sensation] mtrujillog1:
i got same issue with all devs-roms any idea on how to fix this plz
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kamiikhan:
Hey, firstly i would like to apologize if this is completly in the wrong section.

I was thinking that for everyone who is using Android roms on thier HD2 it is sometimes hard to choose which one to use.

So i thought could it be possiable for the users to review thier thoughts of each rom by rating different aspects of the roms? (e.g. internect, gps, battery, speed etc...)

thanks you
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Shaamaan:
Oh how I would love this feature on XDA.

Extra points could be awarded for ease of installation and quality of guides and FAQs...

With so many ROMs to choose from, having them categorized and rated would most certainly help new users out...
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
please help me

i don't know what is hapend, my htc dz just reboot int htc start wait light and reboot, i have tried in the recovery mode , but i cant get it, so i have with android flasher to flash clock word no chance, i became so a problem that something fail, what i can is just in the fast boot and hboot mode and the info but recovery and fabrikreset no chance, , thanx alot for your help

the device is rooted and s-off

tried flashing another ROM 04/08/11]LeeDrOiD_HD PORT 1.0 w

please help me

i need to know if the device is broken is there a hopfule
[G2 and Desire Z General] kitila:
Remove wrong section and dub post
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
but please help me az first bevor you remove it,thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] kitila:
To help to to apply clockwork throught update.zip in recovery that might work
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
thank you for your replay, but where i found something like what you say to clean this problem exactly, please do not forget that i can not in the recovery mode, so you main from the HBOOT mode or somthing else.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jaydog69:
have you tried using fastboot commands in the computers command prompt to install and reboot to recovery?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
honstly no how i can do it pleas tell me. thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] kitila:
First try turnoff phone hold volume down and power.then slect recovery once at red triangle press vol up and power try to get to recovery that way
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
when i put it on recovery and press tvol up and power he going ti reboot into htc start display and replay reboot

now battrie is to end and i cannot charge it i try another trich to charg it, and still read what you write
[G2 and Desire Z General] kitila:
Nono let me explain I can see u speak little english

Step 1 turn off phone

2 hold vol down and power to bring to screen it will say fastboot recovery and two other things use vol down to get on recovery and hit power...that. brings u to screen with red trinangle with ! In middle

3 press vol up and power at same time"might take few trys" but will bring up blue words.

4 pick secd choice down and try and see if that takes you to clockwork
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
no chance when i go to fastboot recovery... and when i go on recovery and then power thehe go reboot and replay reboot without stoping i have tried the

Launch Command Prompt and type the following command:

fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery.img i have put it on c: i became this
[G2 and Desire Z General] mystikal87:
I think I see a problem.

Hi.

Saw your post and couldn't help but notice that it is indeed in the wrong section. :D

My question to you is 1. What were you doing before previously encountering this problem?

and 2. What version of Clockworks Recovery were you trying to place on the phone?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i have install the last ROM that name i am write in the first seid after that i have kernel UNITY_V4_2.6.35.13_OC1708_UV900_SLQB_CIFS_TUN_VR_EXT4_2WCR

from recovery mode as zip installed, than i have problem after this problem i have make a restore to nanonid old backup und another time the new ROM and than i have this big problem that is alle story, witch clockword i tried install now is this one recovery_CWM_2.5.0.7, thank you
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Where are you getting the recovery from? The one you should be flashing is recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.4-vision.img
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i have looked bei google about how i can install recovery img from pc command and he say that is the best recovery, thank you for helping me
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Its an old recovery which will not work with gingerbread roms. Download the correct one from here.

Rename to recovery.img and place in your platform-tools folder.

Put you phone in to bootloader and select fastboot.

Connect phone to PC, open a cmd prompt and navigate to your platform tools folder.

In cmd line type

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

Once recovery.img has finished flashing select recovery using the volume down and power button on the phone
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
my battery is to end i try to charge it, so i will make waht you have writing and will give you replay, i love your Roms very match and why i am going to lee-droid is the support to another language like Asia language, thanx alot man
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i became the same like foto 1 so i dont now what i can do more i have tried two way first yours and than with adb but no chance, please help
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
When you are in the bootloader what do the top 2 lines of text say?
[G2 and Desire Z General] mystikal87:
Thanks CJWard

Thanx for assisting. Seems like you beat me to it. I figured that the recovery img mist have been some old version cuz I had similar problems and then realized some fine lines in reading the roms post.

EDIT: Sounds like he may still have S-ON or the SD Card may have one of the PCENG10.zip or so files (cant remember the proper filename but I hope you get what i mean >,< )
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
no i have this two line

vision pvt ship S-OFF

Hboot-0.82.0000

MICROP- 0425

radio 26.08.30.m3

eMMC-boot
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
that is the top lines

i have this

vision pvt ship S-OFF

Hboot-0.82.0000

MICROP- 0425

radio 26.08.30.m3

eMMC-boot

alle off them is with green color
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
can anybody help me please. thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Hey, the reason fastboot wasn't working is because you don't have the eng hboot installed. Follow the instructions here to install the eng hboot http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html

Then try flashing the recovery using fastboot again.

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i thought i have the HBOOT engl 0.82.0000

vision pvt ship S-OFF

Hboot-0.82.0000

MICROP- 0425

radio 26.08.30.m3

eMMC-boot
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
You have the hboot that the DZ ships with. Eng hboot is different.

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i cannot conaction the device i became the device not found, i have uninszall the sdk android spftware and again install and give the driver from sdk andoid folder and when i type ind adb system

adb push PC10IMG.zip /sdcard/ , became the error device not found, so what i can doing i try to install the this PC10IMG.zip, thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Have you rebooted since re installing adb. I can't remember how to set it up on windows but with linux you have to reboot your pc
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
yes i have restart it two times once after adb install and once after driver install, but after drive install i became a yellow symbol in device manager
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
I need to get off to bed, I recommend hoping over to the #G2ROOT irc channel.

Explain your problem and they will be able to help you out in real time. Its a lot easier than trying to do it on a forum.

Hope you get it working :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
thanks man hope you get a nice night and am,thank you und please dont forget me if you get away for my problem
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
I've noticed that, I've HBOOT ENG 0.84.0000 on it, but still when I img recovery with adb push, comes the error device not found

pleas how can help me, thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Try typing "fastboot devices" whilst in bootloader

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
fastboot devices

i have became the SH0CTRT01xx fastboot
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Cool, sounds like fastboot is working. So you should still have the recovery.img in your platform-tools folder.

Type fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i have the conaction see the photo
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Cool now select recovery from the bootloader menu

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
nothing hapend reboot still stop on htc start

i have before a nandorid backup did you thing is lost but when i lock in sdcard in the card reader i have found the backup is still there
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
We could do with getting adb setup properly, can you post a link to the guide you were using please. (If it's in english)

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
this for the new install from sdk

http://myhtcdesire.com/tutorials/how-to-install-the-adb-driver-on-windows

and i make what you write to exactly

nothing else.thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Whilst in bootloader can you try "fastboot reboot recovery"

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
my dear

i have tree times tried with the fastboot recovery flashing but the problem after the flashing the device reboot from himself and go back to htc white color and nothing more, God bless you
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
Did you ever try the #G2ROOT irc channel?

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
no i dont ; and no idea what is that
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i have tried but is complex and most do to many things antill becoming help.thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
I will be home in about an hour I will ask them and try to get this problem sorted. :)

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z General] cjward23:
click here to come to irc.
[G2 and Desire Z General] goliano:
i am there my nick name is goliano
[G2 and Desire Z General] jaydog69:
were you able to get the help you need was your issue fixed?
[Desire HD Android Development] 730000229:
Nice one, will try.
[Desire HD Android Development] koRn666:
Thanks man, downloading now!!! Do you have a patch for the Telus Desire HD???
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Is it LeeDroid's kernel or klquicksall's?? Lol

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
Its klquicksall's mate....;)
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Read the first post again. Both kernels are listed. I know it's a typo ;)

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
Yeap...Its from the copy-paste from Desense rom.

So,until Lee make a lovely new kernel or u decide to make a sense kernel (i tried your beta kernel and was WOW :p), RCMix is the best for this time...
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Maybe that will be my next project ;)

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
:eek:!!!!!!I wish before my holidays!!!!:rolleyes:..lol

Good news mate!!Thank u.......
[Desire HD Android Development] Spyr0s:
So, you won't leave us for SGS2...:D
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Nah! It's a bloody Zamzung!!

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] famonaco:
here mate : http://www.multiupload.com/ROSD9MQU1N

see ya
[Desire HD Android Development] DanteGR:
Congrats on your new project NCTeam!

Will try this ASAP cause I am on vacation...!

Always loved your work ;)

It's still ext3 right guys? So full-wipe 1.3 will work I believe? Reaqson I am asking is cause I am on EXT4 right now. How would I go to ext3 without full-wipe 1.3?

Thanks :)
[Desire HD Android Development] zoulinio:
Excellent work so far...

It's nice to see that roms are still been developed....

Thanks a lot for giving reasons not even think to change this phone....
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
If u wipe manual all partitions and use full wipe 1.3 everything will be ok.Another suggestion is to use this recovery ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1161710 ) which has the opportunity to turn from ext3 to ext4 and opposite.Also is the best recovery by far mate...
[Desire HD Android Development] Spyr0s:
Yup, this recovery is great. I never used a script again after installing this.
[Desire HD Android Development] CitizenLee:
Looks very good. Will run a nandroid and give it a try when I have some free time.

Thanks!
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
maybe the ROM has read_ahead increased to much for youe SD card.. try looking if there is a script in etc/init.d about that...

or the devs here will tell you if it exists!
[Desire HD Android Development] kalagas:
It has and it has been set to 3072MB...

You think if he edit it to 2048MB will solve this???

I never thougt an SDcard read speed script will cause such an issue...

Sent from my DesireHD with Mixed_Theme
[Desire HD Android Development] erbse:
@ lord

One question, is it possible to prepare an io performance patch for this Rom? While the recovery from sms and so on I saw that the write speed is much lower as in the cyanogen rom with your kernel.

Thx for answer...
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Yes, try setting it to 2046 and let him test it.

For the other guy: performance is better on cm because of patched libsqlite for cm that comes with my kernel.

I tried to patch sense lib, but I couldn't do it. it's a little different

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] erbse:
Mhmm ok and thx for answer. The rom is smooth and fast but sometimes i feel the difference to cyanogen...I will check the rom for some days and then I will see if the performance difference too huge...because recovery is not a normal using case...
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
Impressive battery life!I lost 5% in 7,5 hours with wifi on overnight!I cant remember when i saw 3mA in my phone before.:p

Nice kernel (again) Lord...;)

2011/08/13 23:38:17,-240mA,96%,4.128V
2011/08/13 23:39:28,-5mA,96%,4.113V
2011/08/13 23:40:41,-73mA,96%,4.113V
2011/08/13 23:46:57,-9mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/13 23:52:27,-9mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/13 23:53:27,-5mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/13 23:54:29,-6mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/13 23:59:59,-13mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/14 00:07:27,-34mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/14 00:09:17,-60mA,96%,4.138V
2011/08/14 00:16:59,-9mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 00:18:15,-92mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 00:22:27,-5mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 00:32:30,-5mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 00:37:27,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 00:46:59,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 00:52:27,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:02:30,-5mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:07:26,-6mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:17:00,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:22:26,-5mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:32:28,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:37:27,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:47:00,-3mA,95%,4.135V
2011/08/14 01:52:27,-3mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:02:30,-3mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:07:27,-9mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:17:00,-3mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:22:27,-7mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:32:30,-5mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:37:27,-9mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:47:00,-5mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 02:52:26,-5mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 03:02:28,-13mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 03:07:27,-15mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 03:09:23,-24mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 03:17:00,-5mA,94%,4.13V
2011/08/14 03:22:27,-9mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 03:32:30,-9mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 03:37:27,-9mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 03:47:01,-7mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 03:52:26,-5mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:02:28,-5mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:07:27,-8mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:17:01,-9mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:18:30,-266mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:22:26,-20mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:32:28,-8mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:37:27,-5mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:47:01,-5mA,93%,4.121V
2011/08/14 04:52:27,-5mA,92%,4.111V
2011/08/14 05:02:30,-5mA,92%,4.111V
2011/08/14 05:07:27,-5mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 05:17:01,-12mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 05:22:27,-9mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 05:32:30,-9mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 05:37:27,-8mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 05:47:01,-9mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 05:52:26,-5mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 06:02:29,-7mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 06:07:27,-8mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 06:09:24,-15mA,92%,4.106V
2011/08/14 06:17:02,-9mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 06:22:27,-5mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 06:32:30,-5mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 06:37:26,-7mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 06:47:03,-9mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 06:52:27,-5mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 07:02:11,-32mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 07:02:14,-32mA,91%,4.101V
2011/08/14 07:02:14,-32mA,91%,4.101V
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Hehe!

Nice.. Now some more uv..

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] Aniquibobo:
Nice ROM

Thanks.

/Ani
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
Yeap...!!!!!!more!!more!!

Im using -25, ondemandX at 122-960 and no daemon...;)
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Better to try stable puv script also if it works. that one is *****in'

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
U mean stable by killersloth i supposed...

Yeap,i have to try it too.I used ocbeater to uv with success.I have the script in my sdcard to try it when im back home cause im on the beach in Kefallonia island now!:p.All the team are welcome here!!!:D
[Desire HD Android Development] duk3r:
Good morning guys. Still using version 1 off the ron because I'm on vacation. I have 3-7 mah while sleeping at night but when I switch on the screen and open one two applications like twitter for example, it goes up to 500+!

Never had that high mah with these simple apps. I have the daemon set to smoothass and max 998 mhz.
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
Its almost normal this behavior mate in screen on.But now,in version 2, we have totaly different things and most important our kernel from lord as u know...;)

Btw did u undervolt with vipermod???

If not,go to terminal,type ''su'', then ''vipermod''.After these u will see some choises.Select ''2'' and uv -25.Save changes and thats it.

U will see some improvment.;)
[Desire HD Android Development] erbse:
My first battery life impression...

After one hour with

* wifi enabled

* some flash videos (pocketnow, areamobile)

* 5 min angry birds

* 5 min samedroid

* low display brightness

the accu lost nearly 10 percent with a drain from 110 to max 250 ma.

The standby drain is nearly the same like the above one.
[Desire HD Android Development] duk3r:
Elias yes went to -50 and the first version of the rom. Will try version 2 tonight when I get back home. Can't flash this on the boat while returning home unfortunately!
[Desire HD Android Development] DanteGR:
Do NOT use smoothass governor in daemon mate. It causes conflicts...

If u want to use smoothass enable setcpu ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
No smootass in this rom

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] DanteGR:
He is still using v1.0 Lord ;)

Btw many thanks for your exclusive kernel for DeSense rom :D
[Desire HD Android Development] paddelundh:
I lost 3% battery over 8 hours of sleep with no sync on. And the speed is amazing. Is there any way i can lower the sd read speed that lordclockan talked about my self? The miui gallery is the only disturbing thing.
[Desire HD Android Development] DanteGR:
Yes sir!

There is a free app in the market called sd speed booster or something like that.

You can easily change the read ahead buffer from 3072kb to 2048kb from there.

I hope this solves the issue for you :)
[Desire HD Android Development] famonaco:
hi mate, if you open the zip file with winrar you can see friendstream widget and locations too :)

see ya
[Desire HD Android Development] _pX_:
After applying:

2. Unthemed framework and system (no FlyIn animation, no % battery, no taskbar miui icons, no overscroll effect)

I have no taskbar at all :/
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Yes, I'm really interested if that will help!
[Desire HD Android Development] sharavan21:
Thank you :D
[Desire HD Android Development] paddelundh:
it didnt,so i guess ill leave it for now.

EDIT after backing up all pics to my pc everything is working like it should now somehow.

Thanks for all the help guys.
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
So,now the ROM is perfect for all and we can focus how to improve it more!Already lord working on this...;)

Any ideas are welcomed!(we have some but we searching anything new)
[Desire HD Android Development] famonaco:
guys have nice holidays see you tomorrow

;)
[Desire HD Android Development] wwfc:
Awesome ROM, really stable quick and smooth. I really like the window and transition animations as well. Also the stockish theme looks cool. Good job man keep up the good work
[Desire HD Android Development] DexterMorganNL:
So anyone running this rom at 2Ghz? I guess that isnt really a good idea running double on 2Ghz as its the double off the orginal, but is there also a kernel for other roms on 2Ghz?
[Desire HD Android Development] duk3r:
Just downloaded v2 and will flash in a while. So, v2 has new kernel and is already uv at -25?

Edit: HoneyDesense theme works ok?
[Desire HD Android Development] erbse:
Two things..

* patched sqlite lib to increase io performance

* a white sense theme...the reason is easy first it looks really good (see hd2 and sense theme for win) and second the LCD display technology 'prefer' white themes

* maybe smaller scaled button...

Thx
[Desire HD Android Development] neowarf:
Does The kalaga's theme works with the v2 rom?

Thanks in advance
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
Yes mate...;)
[Desire HD Android Development] eliashadow:
It's already uv my friend,so u can uv only -25 without any problem...
[Desire HD Android Development] neowarf:
Many thanks my friend.

And does the rotating rosie is enabled by default?

Neo utilise Tapatalk sur Virtuous DHD
[Desire HD Android Development] wwfc:
No its not just flash the patch
[Desire HD Android Development] Life Engineer:
Ok guys so the rom is working great with me it's been since yesterday! Can't say about battery though!

The only issue i'm seeing when installing / uninstalling new app, the phone lags for a while, about 15 sec! That's a bit annoying but I van live with it!
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
don't know if it includes new market.. but I would say it's the new market :)
[Desire HD Android Development] sugardaddy1979:
I searched and could not find so forgive me if I missed it. Is this rom ext 4?