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[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
1) I never rooted or modded my phone in any way. Nor did I restore it from a back up. I've never used a battery monitor, task killer, or app freezer. Most of my apps are business oriented and are from well known reputable developers/publishers. My phone exhibited all the problems so widely discussed.

2) Before jumping ship, I went to a T-Mobile corporate store to try and exchange my phone. A new phone, taken out of a sealed box in front of me, with nothing on it but the stock apps, rebooted itself within an hour.

3) Did you really expect LG to come out and say "we f'd up and delivered a product that's crapping out for over half its purchasers?" Any public acknowledgement is a smoking gun as if it were truly just a handful of users effected they'd just say nothing. We'll find out what they knew and when they knew it from the lawsuit you detest so much.

4) No matter how many users it effected, clearly the problem(s) were known by LG in May. If it were a simple software tweak, to salvage their image and future sales, don't you think by August they could/should have been able to address it? And why are the problems so random? Every phone is shipped with identical hardware and software so they should all behave the same and don't. So either: A) there is some hardware related trigger, B) the software is so fundamentally flawed it can't be salvaged with a "fix," C) LG really is clueless and shouldn't be making high-end phones, or D) all of the above.

5) T-Mobile pulled the phone off their website and out of their corporate-owned stores for over a month. It mysteriously reappeared after LG released their half-ass GB update with a Froyo kernel. Coincidence? I think not.

You seem smart and articulate. I have to assume you're taking this hard-line contrarian view simply for your own personal entertainment as people react to your postings. There's no other explanation because the issue(s) have been experienced worldwide, for an extended period of time, and the volume of which can't be compared to what's been experienced with any other phone ever produced.

By October, T-Mobile will have four dual-core phones in its portfolio and no longer need to market the G2X. I'll bet you $20 the G2X is retired or mysteriously and permanently goes "out of stock" in October after the Ruby and Hercules are launched. And with all the cool new higher-spec'd phones that will be available with unlocked bootloaders, good luck maintaining dev support for the G2X. It was a fantastic concept and could have been a hit but it was ruined by the execution and follow-up.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
The plaintiff could have jumped ship too, the lawsuit is because he did not. I agree some user's have issues. Some users say the reboot thing self resolves. Others say if you do a hard reset at the very start, it helps. Others say just return the junk move on.

Here is a link to the lawsuit text. It is what it is.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1221606

I have no issue about what you say, and the G2x could be raised in price and be dried up on the vine, or a newer better update will come.

The G2x was never pulled off the site, it was there, back ordered, and returned when they had 2.3, that is how you manage inventory, the G2x was still being sold out in the distribution channel, wirefly, amazon, costco.

I think the Hercules will be a better phone, but after seeing the Charge I thought the G2x was better on text, but 4.5 is close to mini-tablet, which I like.

The G2x does run Hex Defense pretty well, though I do need to close and open Hex occasionally. Probably because it auto saves progress when the phone rings. Who knows.....yours was a good post.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sandiegopaneraiguy:
Dear Mr. Baker, it is quite apparent to most of us that you are unable to read and comprehend what I and others have said. You simply assume you know what has been done, and do your very best to spin it to suit your rather unusual needs.

You have continually stated that I caused the issues with phone number one by installing custom ROM's, yet I have repeatedly told you that there were NO custom ROM's installed until the second or third week of ownership. The issues were evident within the first four days of ownership and verified and noted by T-Mobile employee's on day 4 of ownership (a full 2 weeks prior to a custom ROM being installed). So why you continue to make this claim is beyond me... Quite simply, you fabricate the reality that you so badly want.

Next, the second phone that was shipped to me was NOT restored with ANY previous settings. In fact, the previous SD card was not installed and a completely different GMail account was used to register it. So the idea that I some how restored BAD SETTINGS, BAD SOFTWARE or BAD KARMA on the replacement phone is simply silly. But Im sure you will ignore this fact, or argue that somehow Google linked my two Gmail accounts and restored settings from the other account.

A fact that no one can argue is that you seem to THINK you know more about these phones, their abilities and inabilities than you actually do. You claim to know more about what others have done, can do, will do, might do and cant do than you actually could possibly know.

And most importantly, you continue to fabricate stories and scenarios that are somehow expected to instill some merit in your theories/beliefs.

My opinion of you, your position and your actions is quite simple. I think you are someone who has NO affiliation with any of the corporations named in this thread. There is no way that LG would allow someone with as little knowledge of the phone, the case, the technology or the law to speak on their behalf or even on the subject while being associated with them. You are quite simply a guy who has nothing better to do than argue his invalid point with people who obviously dont care to hear from him.

By all means, continue... I and others have found your ramblings nothing less than amusing!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Oh, so now I scammed T-Mobile? Like I said in a prior post in this thread. I owned two different G2X's. One for me. One for my wife. Mine besides some major screen bleed on my first couple devices worked fine with zero bugs what's soever. My wife's on the other hand had to be exchanged more than 3 times for various issues including rebooting a screen freezes. I called T-Mobile and they had on record that I returned two different G2X's more than 5 times. To make a long story short. They gave me the Sensation and let me keep the broken G2X. After I got the Sensation, I called T-Mobile again to see if my wife's G2X (The broken one) could be replaced since I did technically still own the device. They replaced it and the one they sent me was the same as my other one. Perfect. My wife wanted a Sensation as well so I bought her one since I took the one that replaced her G2X and let her use my bug free G2X. At this point I owned 2 Sensations and 2 G2X's. I ask you. What the **** do I want or need 2 of each phone for? I don't, which is why I sold one.

There you go thinking you know everything again. You belong on MSNBC or Fox news because you sure as hell no how to spin ****. Funny how I'm not the only one who thinks you belong in a psych ward.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] :
This phone has a big problem that no one talks about. Inexperienced users buy the phone and rooted or install unstable apps, that is really the only flaw. The phone is great and I'm really disappointed to see the level of conversation in the general forum. It seems like a lot of people assuming the phone has problems without a logical technical argument.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sandiegopaneraiguy:
Obviously you have made this statement without reading the several pages of claims by users. If what you say is true, how do you explain the users who DID NOT root the phone or install ANY APP's at all and still had rebooting/freezing issues?

I think this has been pretty well beaten to death. Regardless of which opinion you have (The phone is the best one on the market or the phone should have never been released), there is very very very little good that can come from this discussion and conversation.

Those of us who have had consistent and repeated problems will not convince people like Mr. Baker that defects exist. And Mr. Baker will surely not convince any of us with issues that the phone is all that and a bag of chips.

The suit has been filed, the attorneys (for both sides) are hard at work and in the end I would suspect that a reasonable solution will be reached.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Sorry but I highly doubt my wife was rooting her phone. Unless she's keeping something from me. Sge might be a underground Android freak.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] richteralan:
He's a TMO employee... I think that explains it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] richteralan:
And this is related to this thread because...?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
murry

take her on the murry show(spelling?) and get that lie detector test done.

you were asked if ou secretly rooted your android phone. you stated no that was determined to be a lie.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
ok i get it now

never mind forget i wasted time posting. I see this is just entainment for you. if we said the phone was great youd tell us why it isnt. by the way if your gonna argue at least know what your talking about. im not gonna waste my time but you are wrong on every point you stated here except for me listening to them about an update to fix the phone that was my mistake, i learned from it it wont happen again.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] :
This works 99% tell them.tech Support ssaid do a restore and now won't turn on :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sandiegopaneraiguy:
Although I had/have zero faith and confidence in the intelligence and/or experience levels of T-Mo employees, he is clearly not an employee of T-Mobile.

Even T-Mobile employees often show a better understanding of this situation than Mr. Baker.

As I and others have previously stated, he is simply a guy who has too much time on his hands and nothing better to do than argue a case that has no merit and make false statements as to what others have/had/could have done.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spyvie:
I don't know, he reacts very quickly to slams against LG, using a pull no punches approach when confronted with any ugly truth. I think there is a chance he is paid by someone to stir the pot and get as much information as possible. Sorta like an early and free interrogative. If he's not in that position he might as well be.

Unless you have some inside knowledge you're not sharing I remain suspicious and amused.

ETA:His IP address is being recorded and we are discussing an active legal process. There is at least a small chance that his identity is will be a matter of public record eventually.

Edit Again: Here is Tom's first post on this fine forum, made in the same month he joined and about three weeks after the G2x launched. It is certainly possible that he is just an enthusiast but I remain doubtful. This sounds like someone who has been doing a lot of reading in an effort to defend a position.

Post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13801791&postcount=5

Thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13801791#post13801791
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Lying about his identity would be perjury if any of this tried to be submitted into court. He acted under a false pretense and falsified his identity. So for his sake, I hope he is telling the truth ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Foo_Blyat:
Ban Tom.... And your all pretty foolish for buying a crap phone to begin with. You all had the option of the mytouch 4G
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Haha I hope the latter is a joke...

The mytouch4g...lol
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Taking this over to the thread

specific to the lawsuit

.

over here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16718746#post16718746
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Somebody has a little to much time on their hands. Its actually getting a little absurd. Someone is acting as if their going to lose money if LG loses.

Why anyone would take this so personal is beyond me but I recall seeing a blog post on Are Technia regarding fanboyism and why people feel the need to defend the devices they use.

To make a long story short, its all about being insecure.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
I am pretty sure you said you returned 3 phones because of screen problems, never had the reboot issues, got T-Mobile to give you a Sensation, then send back the phone that was just replaced to get a new one, then went out and sold a G2x. Everything because of screen bleed like the picture above. The reason T-Mobile gave you the Sensation was all the problems with the screens on the G2x....

I thought that is what you have said, but I may be wrong.

If you want to clarify anything if I am mistaken, please.

When you said you were moving on to a different phone, I thought that meant your were G2x less.

Hey nice way to get a free phone to sell.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I already clarified this issue days ago in this thread with you. My G2X only had screen bleed issues and my first two, I didn't have long enough for other problems to show. Tge third one I got was perfect with no bugs and minor screen bleed. My wife's however had nothing but problems. I exchanged it 4 times in the same store. The manager there is who helped me out with customer service to get a Sensation.

My wife's phones had problems ranging from rebooted, freezes, GPS not working and poor cell signal.

After I got the Sensation, I gave her my fully functional G2X. After she saw my Sensation, she wanted one so I bought her one. I waited a little bit and called T-Mobile to see if I could exchange it for a working one and they let me with no questions asked since after all, it was still on my account. At this point I had two sensations and two G2X's. I did t have a need for two G2X's so I sold one.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
The complaints in the filing (LCD excepted) map to the admission of problems by LG in the links I posted. And there's many more. That alone will get the case to discovery. LG will do everything it can to get the case tossed. I don't think they'll be successful. They sure as hell wouldn't want it to proceed so I'm guess there will be some type of proposed settlement without any admission of guilt or wrong doing. That's how most of these cases end and that way it won't set a legal precedent for the rest of the world. I have absolutely no pity for them. Either their arrogance or ignorance allowed this to mushroom when if they applied resources back in May and June they wouldn't have ended up in this situation (and dragging T-Mobile along with them).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Tom just want to let.you know. I got a brand new warranty replacement this week. Within having the phone for less than 2 hours it rebooted on its own 3 times and had the sleep of death more than 5 times while charging. No roms! Only opened,turned on and plugged in. Period. It is a HUGE issue with a decent portion of the phones population. However it had zero screen bleed. I immediately sent the piece of **** back. At least mine (original) just reboots most of the time the sleep.of death only 10% of the time and my screen bleed is.minimal.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Bet you cant wait until a quality phone hits T-Mobile. Like the Hercules or the Prime.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Prime! No more manufacture dependant support.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sandiegopaneraiguy:
Tom, Im going to make this is simple as possible and with as few BIG WORDS as I can.

The first phone was NOT rooted when it was taken in to T-Mobile. It was not rooted for the first 2-3 weeks of my owning it. During this time it froze or stalled at least once per day, some times several. The people at T-mobile told me that it was a soft ware issue being worked on by LG.

The second phone WAS NEVER ROOTED AT ANY TIME, and was returned to T-Mobile in the same un-rooted condition that it was the entire time it was in my possession.

You have said that I rooted it, then unrooted it and returned it... That is completely false. It was NEVER rooted. It was ALSO not restored to ANY previous condition, as the GMail account used to connect it was one that I had never previously used on a phone. What I meant, and maybe I was a little unclear, is that it was registering with the T-Mobile system or whatever needs to be done with a brand new phone, and there were market updates to FACTORY INSTALLED applications that were being downloaded when it began rebooting right there inside the T-Mo store. Nothing was being installed from a previous phone, Gmail account or ANY applications that did not come pre-installed on the phone. If I recall correctly, it was a Google Maps update that was downloading/installing at the actual time the phone rebooted.

I simply ask that you get your facts straight when trying to reply to anything that is written. You have done this to me numerous times, and I see you are doing it to others also.

You also claim that LG has a certain time period to respond... Well, they were actually given THIRTY (30) days to respond to a certified letter prior to the case even being filed. They were informed of my intent to file the CAW if they did not remedy the situation... They never even replied to the letter. They ignored our offer to discuss the matter outside of the courts.

Then after the case was filed, they immediately wanted to discuss the matter... As I said, in the end I expect that this will be settled amicably. But only time will tell.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
i thought they took all telephones away from the jail house lawyers.....he also refuses to stop saying google backs up app settings which it does not.

He continues to say the complaint has holes when his defense is constant. in another thread he actually thinks lg will release 2 more major builds for this phone. He is just plain dillusional about this phone.

damn if i can get jessica im going to state farm.(commercial..seen her?? :) )

Also in for the prime here and im hearing it will be avaiable on verizon also. repors of a test lte 4g prime at verizon now.

oh get this one. LG put out a update for their tablet and locked the bootloader with the update.

there is just nothing that LG does know that i can figure out.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Foo_Blyat:
Why isn't Tom banned yet
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
You said it best. He is completely dillusional about this phone. He has an extreme infiority complex when it comes to his personal investment. He gets insecure when you tell him there are better phones available.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Maris_:
"Disillusional," maybe ... but his over zealousness in defending his position reminds me more of "stalker."
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
You tell me what I have got wrong.

1. You purchased a G2x phone with a 30 day no questioned, asked full return policy including getting out of the contract you agreed to.

2. You never in those 30 days returned the phone or canceled the contract.

3. Phone 1 was ultimately rooted, unrooted, and sent back to for an exchange. That exchange was not instigated until over 40 days since purchase. Before returning Phone 1, you update the phone to insure the phone would come back for inspection, in an unroted sate.

4. Phone 2 was inspected and used within 1 day, and returned. While in T-Mobile store, they saw the phone reboot under self Google's push of its Mapping software to your phone.

5. Google wrote the Operating system and the Mapping app for the G2x, and the G2x is label with Google on the phone itself.

6. You are fully aware that the problems experienced on your phone are not the case in many other G2x. You are aware that the problems you experience were sporadic, and did not cause you to demand a replacement within the 30 days, or return the phone.

7. The alleged screen problem that you claim would have caused you to never buy the phone, was present at all times on your phone, and was never going to be resolved by a software update.

8. Your lawsuit insists that if you had been aware of the rebooting, you would have never purchase your phone, however when you did become aware of it, you return the phone outright, you go into the store of purchase and demand a replacement.

9. Everyone with the lawsuit had the ability to return the phone and get their money back.

10. Had you returned the phone, you would have no damages.

11. Contacting LG about the phone sold by T-Mobile was not within the normal procedure of contacting the person selling the phone. Y

12. You are aware that T-Mobile has replaced phone directly

to their customers, and administrate the warranties of the phone.

13. You are aware that LG does not sell its products to consumers directly.

14. You no longer use T-Mobile as your carrier, and the G2x would not work on their networks.

15. You damages, are the cost of the phone, minus the value of the phone as its is sold.

16. You are aware that people have posted that there phones functioned properly, until they rooted and changed ROMs, which then caused the phone to become unstable. Only to have the phone work properly again after returned to stock. (ie ductor)

Did I get anything wrong?

Oh and LG has 30 days to reply to your complaint, back to the court, if not, the Judge can place them in default and rule in your favor, then the Judge would determine the damages, if any. They also could ask for an extension to respond. LG should have responded by now.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
I thought I mistaked you for a POS, until I realized it was no mistake at all.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Well Tom 14 15,16 seem pretty wrong.....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Nah, 16 is right. Ill give him that but I hope he's not dillusional and realizes that their was just as many people who had problems and didn't root. I should know. My wife had to exchange multiple handsets and something tells me SHE DIDNT ROOT.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] torvick12:
As for me i complained about my g2x awhile back before the GB update was out, i called tmobile and they first said it could be battery issue so they when ahead and send me a new battery but yet i was still getting the reboots. That was my only issue with the g2x, so then i when ahead and called t mobile again and told him i when through all the troubleshooting with a rep, before and i even got a new battery from you guys so whats next? So then they when ahead and send me a new G2X and since then never had no reboots or any problems with my phone ;). Guess i may be lucky but i only when through 1G2X not 1 2 3 or 4 like other guys ive heard.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sandiegopaneraiguy:
Because as much as I disagree with his motives and methods of preaching his case, he has as much of a right as the rest of us to post his opinions.

The simple answer to your question is I dont think he has done anything that could be construed as against the rules.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
tom

1)many people hadn't had experience with out right lies so when they were told things would come soon, soon than you think etc they trusteed that. and for many the update didn't fix the issues because there is some bad harware out there.

2) like me many didn't realize that when you returned the phone the 14 days kept ticking from the original phone causing us to go over the 14 days.

you keep saying 30 days but it was only 14 days where i am.

I hope there is no settlement and dont even care who wins.

I just want the internal documents form lg and t mobile published.

remember just because all toyota vehicles didnt have gas pedals stick that doesnt mean it didnt happen.

You seem to base everything off your experience with the phone. and your told that your experience is not someone elses experience and you pretty much call the Full of @#$@.

id settle for a settlement for no repudiation with just the release of internal documents.

Maybe well learn tmobile fought for the consumers and lg refused to comply.

i doubt it but who knows.