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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tropicalbrit:
Signing it in a kitchen / compression will not be the same as getting HTC's signature, which the bootloader checks for. Changing one thing in an "official" RUU or PC36IMG.zip will break HTC' s signature, thus the bootloader will not accept the package. Trying to trick it by "updating" it to a "new version" will not work because you don't have HTC's signature.

Best bet is finding an exploit in the kernel like TeamWin did with the Evo 3D or finding an exploit in a system app. I know that Lithid found one in NOVA, but he wasn't familiar with the type of scripting or something along the lines of that
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayare313:
Well kudos to you spotopolis for even trying to get root. Your input is greatly appreciated , at least by me. Hopefully it can be something so simple to find the exploit in the 2.3.3 update.

Sent from hell.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nYdGeo:
That is exactly the point of a community such as this, but now there is another. This new second point of a community like this is troll threads like this one and instead of simply pointing out that others have tried similar things without success (yet), and/or allowing for the fact that you may indeed do one little thing different and maybe learn some valuable piece of information...instead its to use your thread as an opportunity to be pointlessly rude and offensive, belittling the OP as much as possible.

Also, since you're not an established, well known dev it is automatically assumed by many that you cannot possibly try anything new, learn anything new, or possibly obtain new positive, informative results.

This sort of behavior has already lost this community many members as well as a few very smart, capable, productive devs that just got tired of the attitudes With most of the higher-end devs all off to the Evo 3D and other, newer phones, I believe that it might be a good idea to encourage anyone and everyone to try anything regardless as to whether its been tried before.

Also, now that the Evo 3D has been rooted, if some of the folks from the Evo 4G community inquired politely, we might be able to coax some of the folks that hacked the 3D to assist with the 4G. They may have obtained knowledge hacking the 3D that could prove helpful in hacking the 4G as well.

But that isn't likely to happen anytime soon as that may also require thinking and working together as a community, something that the trolls that get their pleasures spreading ugliness cannot abide.

Its for exactly those reasons that I don't believe that the Evo 4G GB release will ever get rooted. We've lost most of the positive force to the newer phones, but we still have our trolls. Why would anyone that could help want to return to this?

Good luck, spotopolis. Don't let anyone tell you you can't, won't, or let them make you feel stupid or as though you are wasting your time. Most of the great devs, after all, were once struggling through experimentation just like you are now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spotopolis:
Thank you. I just even went as far as running the latest RUU exe file and pulling the usb plug after it started updating to see what state it left it in. oddly enough it didn't reboot it stayed on the screen. I then killed the update with task manager and plugged my phone back in and the HTC black screen whet away and the bootloader screen came up. and just gave my phone info and said RUU in orange. so i tried a few things and noting so I rebooted and my phone is fine. No harm done. Still trying!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
We need an exploit "crash" and then we need to run our own arm application to do the necissary writes to the flash. All you need is an ide a compiler debugger and dissassembler. You can't simply "bypass" checks by swapping files.

These things need to be jumped passed alltogether or switched off.

Hope that helps and feel free to correct any tidbits of misinformation my knowledge is very generic when it comes to **** like this =p
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sivarticus85:
+1

10 chars
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
Basically overflow the memory and do as you please that is our goal so good luck everyone =p
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spotopolis:
I tried the RUU exe and pulled the plug after the secont update and then it went into the bootloader and showed the update progress rather than the black HTC screen. I didnt want it to finish so i did a battery pull. now when i turn it on i get the 4 exclamation marks like the RUU warned. I saw there was a recover option in the RUU in case of failure so I then tried to run the Oldest RUU released in hopes for a downgrade but still i got a 140 error. Still trying.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkrodgers:
This is a total dead end. If it were that easy, it'd be done. People have tried. Basically what you're trying to do is downgrade your bootloader, and that's been tried.

Your thread title is very misleading too, and you should change it. I really hate to beat you up for trying, but you haven't accomplished anything more than verifying that HTC's bootloader security works as designed. You've tried things it's designed not to let you do, and it hasn't let you do any of them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
Wait until teamwin and agraben release it obv its going to happen more than likely they already have a working crash to exploit and run their own code and exactly how this is executed along with offsets need to be adapted to the evo #educatedGuesswork
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve19137:
precisely. my guess is that it will be about two weeks and the root will go prime time. its gonna happen. they found the hole, now they just have to make it easy for the regular user to get in. and thats a waiting game.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
Haha that and they love watching all these asinine threads pop up with people who are "new to rooting and don't already know a root is pending" =p rofl?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve19137:
well, heres the thing, most people that come in here and post things like this seriously think that they have something new to offer. the problem is all the resulting flaming that happens. so either we ignore all the newbs and just watch twitter for something to pop up, or we kindly show them how they are about the 17 millionth person to have tried that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] decayer177:
After running the RUU doesn't it put the update.zip in a temp folder? What if you swapped the hboot that way?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve19137:
nope wont work. bootloader still checks the files that go through. see my massive post on the last page for some fuller details.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spotopolis:
What makes you think I am new to rooting? Just because I have under 150 post and my join date is 2010? That doesn't mean I haven't been reading. Also there are plenty of other sites other than XDA out there. I had the G1 rooted when it was first available. I can try and post my findings that is what the forum is for. Not bashing. Just because other people have tried and failed doesn't mean I will as well. The hole point IS to find what other people have not done. That is the whole idea behind reverse-engineering. So don't tell me I cant because I will and I do.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frickinjerms:
i think its been tried but i wanna give it a run myself just out of sheer morbid curiosity...

goldcard method :D

(ive also stated this before but i have yet to read anything where someone has attempted)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevo11811:
check the evo3d forum, didnt work for them... but i guess give it a shot anyways?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] github:
sigh, another one of these threads.

All of these methods have been tried. Goldcard, modified zips (which is dumb because it breaks HTCs signature even modifying 1 byte).

Sending to mods to have moved/closed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] {ParanoiA}:
Don't worry. TeamWin will get it. They always win. That's why they are TeamWin!!!

Sent From My Pocket
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madigan82:
Aside from @agrabren, @unrevoked, and @alpharevx, who else can we follow for news of this? Also it was mentioned that the devs have found an exploit but it could brick phones. Where did they say this?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] github:
You could hop on the IRC chat and idle. should be irc.freenode.net #unrevokedtest or #htc-evo if I recall.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nick N:
Or check the "Latest from TeamWin" twitter feed:

http://www.teamw.in/main
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve19137:
i read another thread here on xda where someone had idled on a dev irc, and there was talk about the root for the og evo. a dev there mentioned that he was successful in getting s-off for 2.16 hboot, but it pushed his phone to the limits. he said that he wouldnt release it.

as far as twitter handles go, ive followed as many as i could. that includes @onicrom @spiicytuna @shinzul @xdanetarchy @myndwire @kevank @eye_baller @Dees_Troy @toastcfh @shift and @agrabren

i think theres only two other teamwin members that dont have twitter feeds. i have set twitter to send me a text whenever @agrabren tweets because i respond to texts almost instantly. i suspect that hes the one that will release the news, and i want to root ASAP.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xtazy305:
Soon they will root it, I keep calm

Sent from my HTC UnRooted EV0 :/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erik077:
This might be dumb but how about taking old hboot, name him as new (not 2.16 but 2.18) so system thinks that is newer than current one, updated. After that pack it and try it ? I can't risk trying things to loose my root, but I hope you will get it soon :( BTW for packing use 7zip do not use not winrar
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] github:
Nope. Need HTC's private encryption key.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abusedcloth:
So this question will go even further down the line of stupid, While in recovery you can't just format the phone and try an older RUU to restore? I'm assuming it is strickly blocked by the bootloader.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dogzrule:
To Flamers:

At least the OP tried to get it to work its people like you that slow down all these potential roots with your flaming.

To OP:

Excellent work while its true that a lot of this has been done in the past I commend you for trying.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve19137:
while thats something ive never heard tried, thats a task usually done in a custom recovery. in stock android recovery, you get the option to clear data and cache/dalvik. with that being said, even if you could wipe system, you would still have to use the current RUUs because the bootloader cannot be wiped and is still making checks even if there is nothing else in the flash memory.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender beerman:
on the epic, we can use a program called "odin" to flash new firmware via usb while the phone is in it's "download mode", effectively skipping the whole "bootloader/security check" issue (the epic bootloader doesn't check for s-on/s-off anyway ;). too bad there's nothing like that for flashing an old bootloader via the download mode on the evo...

edit: this is in the wrong place, sorry man...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
If you think you can do it code a interface to communicate directly to the flash and then give it a whirl that is even if you know basic :p swapping files is not reversing ... Go equipt yourself with ida olly and xcode or code blocks or radasm and get going superman
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender beerman:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAHAhAHA hells no, ninja! imma wait for the official from team win or unrevoked or whoever! this whole charade about stumbling upon a simple root solution has been rather exhausted, imho. i was just saying, that would be a rad way of doing it (i have an epic, my wife got stuck with the evo) i wasn't proposing to actually do anything :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
Wasn't to you it was to the slick one who thought I was bashing him lol I was just simply stating how to get root I'm an iPhone expert personally not a fan of androids development outside of xda even if that means.Google too =p I know how the iOS exploits work and know xpwn is simply a framework for the individual tools coded by the devs to send and run unsigned code on the phone
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FSPKwon:
And no you made sense the download mode is the equivalent to dfu mode. The evo ahem ... Supersonic only enters this mode via hboot. Essentially because we have hboot our device is locked iPhones have iboot but that's loaded via bootrom that's read only and cannot ever be written to. The evo would never have lost root had this been the case only a filesystem exploit giving us temp root would be needed but however with that kind of rom plus the evo and the way android works we wouldn't even need a filesystem exploit only a custom recovery
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sivarticus85:
So after my finace got her replacement EVO in March, I rooted her phone to get the MSL code. I ran the RUU to "unroot", but forgot I never flashed the s-on tool. So you can imagine my reaction when I found out she's running 2.3.3 with s-off. We're going to Sprint tomorrow to swap phones...lol :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tnerb123:
So curious. Has anyone tried this?

http://therootofallevo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76

Its how they did the temproot on the 3D.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lil_bono:
who rated this 4 stars??? The topic heading is also misleading. You should change that please. None of this is even close to root... Please redirect your enthusiasm to some research/reading.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roids87:
It's been stated several times Fr3vo WILL NOT WORK with the htc evo 4g. It exploits "msm_rotator" Wich does not exist on the evo 4g.
[Android Apps and Games] TheWhiteBandito:
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Note: The permissions are required to display ads. All password generation and computation is done locally on your phone, and your phone only.

I am looking for any kind of feedback!

This application was featured on the front page of XDA-Developers http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1207810

Changelog:
v 1.1 [02-18-12]
- Updated look for Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich devices!
- Increased the password generation character limit to 128!

v 1.0.1 [08-11-11]
- Tweaked both portrait & landscape layout, everything scrollable now.
- Fixed scrolling problems with tips section

v 1.0 [08-10-11]
- Initial Android Market Release!
- Fixed small bug

v 0.5 [08-07-11]
- Initial Release on XDA-Developers
[Android Apps and Games] TheWhiteBandito:
Bump for the app being available on the Market! Let me know what you think!
[Android Apps and Games] remzicavdar:
Sorry I don't need this, because I have already a strong password :D:D

But I think it's usefull for the others ;)
[Android Apps and Games] TheWhiteBandito:
It is always helpful to have multiple strong passwords and to never use the same "strong" password twice! But thank you for your feedback.
[Android Apps and Games] ddaemen:
Is it safe to use this? It is using full internet access...
[Android Apps and Games] TheWhiteBandito:
forgot to write in description that the internet access is for ads and ads only. I would never transmit passwords. all computation is done directly on your phone and your phone only.

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Android Apps and Games] mapester:
Just try'd this out works perfectly and tested my current Wifi pwd with it and comes up as very strong..

Will be handy to use to generate multiple Strong passwords quickly when i change some of mine.
[Android Apps and Games] imonkeys:
Nice and useful tool!!

Thanks a lot.

You may be interested also in http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/ for the password generation. apg's output is strong and easy enough to remember.

;-)

EDIT: an online version: https://secure.msdservices.com/apg/
[Android Apps and Games] TheWhiteBandito:
Bump for new version! Updated look for honeycomb and ICS devices! More to come in the future!
[Nook Color General] ira41798:
I just installed CM7 on two NC's. I am seeing something strange in the Android App store. Some of the more common apps that I have used in the past like Astro, Facebook and others do not have a download button (or any button for that matter).

If someone can explain why and what I can do to resove this problem that would be great. A side note the NC's are using two diffrent gmail accounts.
[Nook Color General] psychoace:
Same and I'm using one gmail account. Also it looks like I've had a kinda old version of Facebook installed for a while (1.6.1) without marker stating there was a .2 or a .3 release. I uninstalled the app and that is how I found out about there being no download button. So it might of been a problem with some of the last nightlies as well
[Nook Color General] koopakid08:
It's a problem with new market. Try uninstalling updates in the settings for the market.

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- Sent from my LG Optimus V using Tapatalk
[Nook Color General] liam.lah:
I think it is because the new market is device sensitive, our devices show up as B&N nook colors, the market thinks we are running crippled e-readers and doesn't let us download all the cool ****.

Do what koopakid08, go to your application settings > manage applications, find the market and "uninstall updates"

New market looked crap anyway.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1196417
[Nook Color General] ira41798:
I followed what people said to do in this thread but when I try to edit the MarketUpdater.apk file name I get an error "Insuffecent Permissions". I'm really new to all of this I feel like I am missing some important part of this CM7 process. Any light on what I'm missing would be great!
[Nook Color General] fatfingered:
What I did was rename MarketUpdater.apk to MarketUpdater.apk.bak by using linux on the sdcard that I'm booting cm7 off of. Not sure how to do it if you're running cm7 on the emmc.
[Nook Color General] ira41798:
With the help of a friend I found what I had to do so I am able to edit apps if CM7 is loaded on the emmc. I found this extremely useful so I will link the wiki that fixed my issue.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
[Nook Color General] kronium:
What did you fix? How?
[Nook Color General] wareagleben:
I updated and also have no Download button. The panel that button should be on flashes white. When I uninstall updates, my old market comes back, but after I leave the market, the new one returns, with the download button. After I leave that market and return, functionality falls apart. The main page doesn't open correctly, Download button disappears, and frames become shaky. What's the deal???
[Nook Color General] irisclara:
The new market hates us all and laughs at our suffering.
[Nook Color General] aludal:
LOL! But don't think I'm your new Market, to laugh at you: I'm one of the sufferers with not only download buttons being eaten by Green Dude, but also icons for previously downloaded apps missing. Mine are all free apps, but I can't imagine how people with disappearing paid apps could get refunds now.

Anyone to share his/her experiences with the best/fullest alternative apps marts? Thank you.
[Nook Color General] patgnds:
In app manager I turned off compatibility mode and now have all the download buttons back.
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
Huh?

Rodney
[Nook Color General] patruns:
It can't be that simple! Can someone please try this? I'm not in wifi range at the moment.....
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Obviously it can't be that simple, since at least a few of us have no idea what this "App manager" is...
[Nook Color General] patgnds:
settings

programs

manage applications

all

market

turned off compatibility mode.
[Nook Color General] elwood1229:
Wow. I was with you to the last step. Couldn't find "compatibility mode" in the old market or in the new.
[Nook Color General] rrr1986:
I simply downloaded super manager from the market then renamed market updater..

1. Open super manager

2. Enable root function option

3. Use built in file explorer in super manger to find market updater.apk.(should be in system apps...)

4. Rename. I simply renamed (.bin instead of apk...)

This will preventing market from updating...

Hope this helps all....
[Nook Color General] arda99:
Searched, seems that feature is available on MIUI only. No lucky with stock CM7.
[Nook Color General] patgnds:
Sorry did not think CM7 would not have compatibility mode. This worked for Miui.

I just checked this again, Angry Birds is not listed now. Worked to download youtube, maps and angry birds.
[Nook Color General] patruns:
In Titanium Backup you can uninstall the market update app. Has anyone tried this yet?
[Nook Color General] NCKevo:
I've had most apps show up in the market with an install / update, but a few don't show up. For example, I searched for the NASA app, and that one has the button, but while I was trying to get YouTube fixed, I uninstalled, and went to the market to re-install, and no install button.
[Nook Color General] thereddog:
Super Manager can't be downloaded with the newest market! The included CM7 file manager doesn't have the proper permissions to rename the marketupdater file either
[Nook Color General] feard:
I have the same problem that some apps do not have the download in the new market. I did find my way to market.android.com and signed in. From there I was able to see all of my previous installed apps and install new ones. When it asked I pressed the browser, not the market. Hope this helps.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
yep, even the online market lists Angry Birds as incompatible with the nook.. Ug.. what a crock of crap.. i feel like we are now back to where we were months ago...
[Nook Color General] breebauer:
This worked for me:

If you have root explorer you can just delete marketupdater.apk from system/app

I deleted vending.apk too -then extracted the old vending apk from gapps.zip (6/30?) , put it in system/apps, changed permissions, and rebooted.

Market works as it did before, but doesn't always tell me about updates for my apps.

The other thread suggested using AppBrain to check for updates. Seems like that's the best workaround for now.
[Nook Color General] poopcat1661:
this has been working so far. I constantly get the pop up that asks ok or cancel for update and I just keep hitting cancel. bit annoying but at least working so far. thanks much for this workaround.
[Nook Color General] SCIONTX:
I renamed marketupdater.apk and then removed the latest Market update using Titanium Backup. When I clicked on the Market icon within Apps, I had to accept Terms and Conditions again. I have the old Market back. Everything is visible and available for download as before the update.
[Nook Color General] thereddog:
Is there another file manager that can do this that's free?
[Nook Color General] Jimbo67:
ESFileExplorer is free, and it worked for me!
[Nook Color General] thereddog:
I'm not familiar with ES, how can I rename the API since the system won't let me?
[HTC Incredible S] Timbits93:
Just wanted to point out something after i upgraded to Gingerbread.

When i switch to front camera, it's in mirror mode nevertheless. Clicking mirror mode button doesn't change the mode to regular view, just the checkbox.

However no matter what mode you're in, the photo is saved in regular view, not mirror mode regardless of the setting.

Anyone also notice this with Gingerbread? Using Bell's official update. :confused: