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[HTC EVO 3D] flyboy1100:
tried chatting 3 times, getting error 1012, and so far no one can tell me to do anything except pull the battery or update the profile
[HTC EVO 3D] HseloMein:
try just making a call while ytou are not roaming, you will most likely get and error 16, and if you hold long enough you wil;l be routed directly to sprint to the security dept. who will fix your problem
[HTC EVO 3D] bigdawgr6:
I just got off with Sprint chat and said:

They refreshed my settings and it worked fine afterwards.
[HTC EVO 3D] plmiller0905:
Is there any way I can force the phone to go into roaming so that I can see if I have that same issue?
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
There's an app for that, roam control, but its kind of shady, it dosent work when you need it most. Obviously you don't have a working signal and no data, it has to check for a license every time before you can use it. So if you don't have data and need to roam, your sol until the phone itself decides to roam.
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Trying to get fixed... Said I had to be off phone, what did they refresh?
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Roam Control doesn't seem to work, at least for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
It works for me, I just need a good solid data signal and hope it passes the license check.
[HTC EVO 3D] MrGreg:
It shouldn't check the license every time you run the app...it doesn't for most people. I'm trying to figure out why it does this for a small number of phones, hope to have some type of correction soon. Thanks! -MrGreg

If you give me some details, I'll be happy to help!
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Can you tell me how to get around the license check error? That's the biggest gripe I have with the app.
[HTC EVO 3D] MrGreg:
I sent you a PM, don't want to hijack the thread :)
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
I've called into Sprint once and and chatted twice... No one can figure out how to reset my sprint service so it can work on roaming again! Really getting annoying!
[HTC EVO 3D] flyboy1100:
i have tried another phone in a roaming area and it doesn't work either. I think verizon isn't following the new FCC law that says they have to allow us to data roam on their network.
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Still can't get roaming working, anyone else try to roam and see the results?

I've tried about 5 different locations within an hour of my main work location where I roam about 25% of my 8 hour work shift. This is getting very frustrating!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] ruffneckZeVo:
I have had this same problem since the day revolutionary was released and sprint cannot seem to fix it can someone please tell me how to get my roaming back my house is in a roaming area and I can't make it recieve calls
[HTC EVO 3D] ruffneckZeVo:
Also thought I would mention I have 2 other lines with sprint and they both roam fine in the same areas so its not verzon not allowing roaming and my 3d worked before s-off so I'm 99% sure revolutionary broke it
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Crap, am I going to have to flash phone back to stock?

Posted a thread with sprint here: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/324614#324614
[HTC EVO 3D] Gordon Ramsay:
Went to Sprint Chat, told them that whenever I was roaming I got a message from Verizon saying I wasn't authorized. He reprovisioned my device and I'm good.
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Did you root and been unable to call or use data while roaming?
[HTC EVO 3D] ruffneckZeVo:
By reprovisioning do u mean basically doing a new hands free activation. I have done that several times and still get the Verizon msg that my number is inactive
[HTC EVO 3D] ruffneckZeVo:
I use ##72786# and reset to do a new hands free activation with no success have tried prl update update profile and several other prls and nothing has changed even ruu back to stock and back to s-on I'm out of ideas
[HTC EVO 3D] painandpleasure:
It took me several tries to get someone who could do it but i told them i had no voice roaming and they reset something and it works perfect.
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Were you or are you rooted when getting this error?
[HTC EVO 3D] iamfiretruck:
I have the same issue... after soff and rooting and roming.

first time it happened i called and they did something and it worked for a day...

prl and device config doesnt work for me now. calling doesnt work either.
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
Hopefully we can figure what it is... Tested roaming on another 3D, he roamed fine. I tried and received "can't authenticate " message from Verizon.
[HTC EVO 3D] iamfiretruck:
I will be testing this once again today..

Current Setup

S-OFF

ROOTED

NO LIGHTS KERNAL

SUPRA ROM

I have updated PRL and done Device config several times while on sprint network to test and see if I can get roaming to work.

If this does not work. I will flash my backup of STOCK ROM/STOCK KERNAL with S-OFF and ROOT.

If that does not work. I will flash back to 100% stock and see if it works.

If that does not work I will warranty the phone and and start over. I will find a solution.
[HTC EVO 3D] ruffneckZeVo:
Have tried all of that with no success even the warranty thing and was told that's a known issue of rooting so even tho I was s-on at the time my warranty was voided by some asshole sprint store manager
[HTC EVO 3D] imex99:
I wiped cache, davlik(again), flashed the updated nightly of virusrom and updated profile and prl. My roaming is back in business...
[HTC EVO 3D] iamfiretruck:
I have another Evo3d on order at my local sprint store as they did not have any in stock to warranty me a new phone.

If i cannot get this fixed by thursday I will have a stock evo 3d till the roms become more stable.
[HTC EVO 3D] P0ll0L0c0:
I had a problem using the "Roam Control" app from the market. All incoming calls went straight to market. This is on a stock Evo 3D.

Per a recommendation by the app author - I updated my PRL in settings, and also updated my profile. That did the trick. I've had no issues roaming since.
[HTC EVO 3D] iamfiretruck:
I was forced to get a new EVO3d to fix my roaming. I am waiting to root this one. What a shame to because the custom roms run so much smoother.
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reupugi:
Hi,

I've installed the latest gapps-gb-20110613. All my google apps are 2.3.5/6 but the inteface of the market is still the old one.

Can anyone help?
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thi3um:
http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=664214&d=1311507376
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] solidkevin:
Just a friendly discussion, so my question is why do yous till use WM if you do, with Android, WP7 and IOS out their, why stick with WM?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] poyensa:
cause i enjoy every minute i use my HD2 with WM-CHT2.0 :)

for my WP7 is an incognita, can anybody please provide a link for WP7 secreenshots?

Android is fine, my kids love playing angrybirds all time! but WM is for me, its adult games ... :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raving_nanza:
.....OS :D

Android is for kids/teenagers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wapvirus:
Reason 1 WM integrates flawlessly with my windows PC ,office ect..

Reason 2 WM has TOMTOM Satnav and it works flawlessly with my WM device just load the software and your ready to go .

The reasons could go on and on but i gave you my most important two ;)

Unlike my daughter just purchased a iPhone 3gs loaded on TomTom and found out to my disgust that you need the car GPS Dock to make it work as integrated GPS don't work with the app :mad: (Don't get me started on iphone sh*t)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] c_shekhar:
OS!!

still using WM 6.5/6.5x.

Android is for kids and WP7 is immature..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raving_nanza:
couldnt of said it better myself.lol

+1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] solidkevin:
How is android fo kids??? And I can see how wp7 isnt fully matured yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] christty31:
WM rulez!

HD2 with NRGZ WM ROM and CHT 2.0 is the best !!!

WM7 is crap, IOS is a toy, android is garbage....

my 2 cents
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raving_nanza:
look at it ;) lol
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] solidkevin:
So you are going by looks only and not functionality?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raving_nanza:
i dont just judge an OS on looks, i judge it on many of things, 1 of which being functionality..

i wasnt really impressed with android, simple as :cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] solidkevin:
Oh ok cause you said look at it, I thought you meant looks, imo android does anything and everything but it has its flaws, iphone is nice and simple but a little too restrictive. And wp7 is hands down the best UI around imo, simple, clean and elegant, missing funtionality and support though at this stage. As for WM I think its a fine OS but too slow for my tastes and it seems like it never matured into full touch UI. Symbian is real functional but so damn slow and ugly UI.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CRACING:
In my experiences. I love WM then another other OS and will keep in first place of my favorite list ever. :)

WM functions are very similar to Windows OS. You can do what ever you want, as a developer or as a user. If you are from Windows PC, then you won't be liking android, iOS or even WP7.

Android has good graphics and speed but it feels like a beta software. Cannot trust it. :o

WP7 is very simple and basic but Still lacks lots of things. I didn't expected MS will do such a bad thing. Better if they stood in WM interface itself.

iOS, I have no comments about it as I haven't used much.

To say in one line, android, WP7, iOS and etc (except WM of course) developers are trying to keep users in there custody!

This never happened in WM, users of it were very free to use, as if they made there own OS.

WM has something that you cannot express but feels in heart when using. Android is my second option though.

Thanks...

Best Regards

Because its a Win CE core which operates from 1x1 pixel tap (i.e stylus). Its same as a cursor present in PC. Later on, MS and HTC tried to make it better Touch Sensitive. Though it wasn't very successful because the core and kernel didn't match the latest hardware. If you know about VM in WM, you probably also knowing it doesn't have much space. Even though the physical memory (RAM) has enough space, multiple apps load slow and its because VM is lacking space. Thats the major fall in WM. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raving_nanza:
B-E-A-utifull :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theori1:
'cause i dont have money to buy an iphone :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nietzscheli:
you can setup what if you want on your Wm.but i have never used Anroid operation system.

in my opinion best reason is wm useful for you(office,gps,internet..)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stephj:
I learnt the Win32 programming model so that I could use the original Embedded Tools 3.0 to create native C++ ARM Windows Mobile 2002 programs.

It was a long hard slog, involving studying the shell "Hello World" program as created by the project wizard, and then trying to figure out what the hell was going on. Embedded C++ 4.0 came along later for WM2003. The accumulated skills could then be used later in Visual Studio, for creating Win32 PC programs, and being able to port applications from one platform to the other, in either direction!

Microsoft have made a total mess of the transfer to Phone 7, with the complete change of programming model, being one of the most crass moves they have ever pulled. Phone 7 was too little, far too late which allowed the opposition to run away with the advantage. Microsoft will never get that back.

Windows CE and Windows Mobile are still good solid operating systems, tried and tested, even if they are a little long in the tooth. Win32 programming may be considered very old hat these days, but the programs run like a bat out of hell.

Android is also pretty stable, being based on a Linux core, and it's improving, but to learn Android development means starting from scratch, almost from the "Hello World" example above. Do I really want to start all over again? Maybe, mañana........ Fortunately, there is not much difference between C# and Java code, so the transition may not be that painful.

Update: Currently studying some of the stuff in the Android SDK........ At the "What the hell does this do?" stage again.

Windows Mobile lives on as Windows Embedded Handheld, but this is now primarily for line of business devices.

Have look at the current WinMo devices sold by Expansys here in the UK

Update: WinMo 6.x has been dropped as a separate category, you have to specifically search for Windows Mobile. There is the HD2/HD2 Mini and some rather expensive near indestructible rubber armoured devices.

How long before HTC drops the HD2?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] altae:
I like WM because of it's flexibility, the fact that it's an open platform with lots of freeware and it's ability to function without a Google, Itunes or whatever account. You buy it, charge the battery, put in a sim card and there you go. No activation no nothing. That's simply the way it should be. Oh and by the way: Call me crazy but I actually like the UI of WM. It always offers multiple ways to do something. And lots of possibilities to customize your device of course.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] da9th_one:
i recently traded in my touch pro2 for the sensation...i didn't give up on wm, but microsoft did...i loved that platform...so versatile yet so misunderstood... :(

this android platform ain't too shabby tho...it's not wm but not too shabby indeed...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ezzie:
my signature pic says it all.....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kainppc6700:
It's still no use though - Windows Mobile 7 is far more useless than real Windows Mobile will ever be.

- 2B
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joxar:
1). I don't have enough money to change my phone yet :P

2). It's very functional, although it looks like it was painted by little girl in MS Paint (WM 6.1) :D

3). I still like it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jo_iii:
c_shekhar, you're one of the many people that made xda as it is today. i remember the days when this forums was small and it's only WM geeks talking XD. You kept my XDA II alive too!

For that, thank you!

I won't lie, WM has its flaws. But WM has so much that I have since 2003 that I just grew up with it. It's hard to seperate from something you fell in love at first sight since you were 12 you know ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Bodisson:
That's why I still use it... :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cookie Ninja:
My sentiments exactly... I rooted my office HTC incredible s so that I could uninstall Google contact sync and Google calendar sync apk... Don't use GMaps, Gmail, FB, Twitter or gtalk clients, so I uninstalled the whole lot, including Google search and voice search.... So only sync thru Outlook using myphone explorer. Some modicum of privacy on Android!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ocos:
but the point is...

The point I guess I'm trying to make is things that were simple on WMx.x are now more difficult. It is not a simpler OS.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kainppc6700:
STUPID ANDROID Reply

Same here - While I do use "maps" from time to time, I never use Google Mail, Facebook, Twitter, or Google Talk.

As for MyPhone Explorer, does that USB Sync the tasks, calendar, and contacts and does it handle recurrences correctly?:D I'm still looking for some software that can just do the job right.

Exactly. Even my old Palm m500 wasn't this tough to sync outta the box. I just set it on the dock and pressed the little button, and it just worked, no questions asked. The Diamond wasn't that tough either, all you had to do was plug it in and it would sync itself.

- 2B
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] schmatzler:
I still use WM, because:

1. I used it for years and always transferred my contacts, SMS, appointments, ... with PIMBackup when I got a new phone. I would loose all of this stuff, but as WM is dead now, I will have to some day :(

2. Windows Mobile had a bad reputation at any time. People thought of it as a difficult, unhandy and slow OS. I always loved it. Sure, every device had settings in the registry that where absolute bullsh*t - for example, auto correction on the HTC S620. But after a while, I really loved tweaking my devices to my needs and got familiar with it.

Because of that, devices where always very cheap to get. Having a smartphone with a full QWERTZ-keyboard and only paying 50 bucks for it on Ebay...nice!

3. Windows Mobile is no Apple clone. WP7 is optimized for touchscreen only devices and looks like a 3 year old kid could handle it. I love my WM, coz it isn't optimized just for the looks.

I own a Samsung Omnia Pro 4. Bought it some months ago on Ebay for a hundred bucks. It has a 600MHz CPU, WM6.5 is running really fast on that device - it makes so much fun! But I think it will be my last device with my favorite OS. A shame. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PseudoBob:
semi-offtopic, but as you mentioned Contacts...

Know what bugged me about the WM contacts? Birthdays would not show up in the Calendar. Or anywhere, really. Of course, "there's an app for that" which copies birthdays into the calendar and others that display it on the Today screen (and more advanced shells had their own solutions).

Know what bugs me about the Android contacts? They don't even have a birthday field! :confused:

Maybe they fixed that since 2.3... but whether they did or did not, what a rudimentary thing to miss. At least WM got the Contacts thing down pretty well, having not just birthday but also anniversary, who their spouse would be, any children.. I guess now we jot that into the Notes field, but parsing the PIM is just so much easier.

So, yeah, my WM reminded me yesterday of a birthday while my Android just sat there.. I guess the birthday fields didn't even come across (bluetoothed VCF files from the WM to the Android).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pimppoet:
I think if wm had todays hardware it would actually outsell wp7.... I know I would love a wm tp3. I jumped to android this past september & got the mytouch4g slide...still a noobie. Neway it doesnt display the birthday in the calendar far as I can see however when my friend called the caller id screen showed her birthday was in 3 days. You can set the events to show within 1,3,7,or 30 days.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sin-cal:
Didn't think this thread would still be going. I jump back an forth from android to Wm. Though the more the Gf nags at me to stay on android to play words with friends with her, the longer I stay on. Android is nice. There's no doubt about that. My optimus is rooted an rom'd,customized, themed...an it still gets boring. At the end of the day, there is nothing I do on my optimus that I can't do with my intrepid... an for much longer. I may go hunt down a tp2 tomorrow. Lol.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
I have a HTC desire and love android, but i still find myself playing old pda games on my dell axim x5. Some like The Quest or Legacy are not planned to be ported to android, and i really love those. And windows mobile for me was true freedom to do whatever you wanted on your phone, sort of like a real computer - you had your windows folder with which you could do whatever you wanted to, install - uninstall drivers, flash to other versions and so on... well i am not saying that you can't flash android, but none of today's operating systems have the same feel to me as windows mobile. It is just absolute freedom to do what you want, i can't describe it otherwise.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PseudoBob:
Here's the thing, though - where did it get that birthday information?

As far as Googling around has informed me, the work-around is to make sure the contact is actually in your Google account, and then edit the person's details in your Google account (most people say PC, but I'd imagine it would work in the device's own browser as well).

Which would mean that... 1. It does diddly squat for Phone/SMS contacts and 2. it still wouldn't show in the Contacts app.

Now, again, there's other solutions... GO Contacts Ex apparently solves this quite nicely. But it's beyond silly that there isn't just a field in the default Contact app, even more silly than WM's lack of showing birthdays in calendar without using an app.

Anyway, we can take this to another thread - getting too off-topic :)

Though speaking of WM.. I miss my stylus. Playing solitaire on WM with a stylus is a much better experience than playing it with fingertips on Android :| Hopefully a future generation will return to the stylus as an option ( a la Galaxy Note )
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spunker88:
Just bought a used LG Fathom off ebay for pretty cheap. I recently moved to a Droid 3 and while its a great device and Android is a great OS there were some WM apps that I was missing from my Axim x50 which is starting to show its age, plus the Fathom could always serve as a backup phone if my Droid 3 ever has issues.

But for now I'm using it like a pda/mp3 player. I put it in airplane mode and have to dismiss an activation prompt every-time I soft reset, but besides for that it works great.

Android doesn't have a TCPMP/Coreplayer equivalent yet. There are decent media players for Android, but none have come close to the swiss army knife of formats that TCPMP can play. VLC is being ported to Android so TCPMP may meet its match soon.