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[T-Mobile LG G2x] Ducter:
WOW.

I think you are obsessed with this thread.

My G2X, as well as the numerous ones I have had prior to this one are indeed defective, to the point T-Mobile will no longer exchange my devices. (exact words from t-mobile are different phones arent going to resolve the issues) Leaving me with LG as my sole line of replacement. Based on them, me, my wife and 2 of my kids will be 4-8 weeks without phones. I dont have landlines so thats just unacceptable.

I am not going to re-type my experience here again as its posted in other threads already but I will say I have 4 lines with G2X's that have all been replaced at least once, some more. Thats giving me a sample of over 15 different G2X's, out of that I have 2 now that work "enough" to be considered OK, only because my 2 kids dont use GPS. Thats a problem, no way around it.

I called in before my 15 days were up about the phones shutting off, GPS not working and was assured that the software update would fix it. I decided to stay with the phones as IMO they were the best phones available if those underlying issues could be corrected and I really did like them. I thought I could deal with it until the fix came. Again, I was lied to and based my decision to remain with these phones based solely on the words from T-Mobile.

The screen issues, I figured I could return them under warranty once the other issues were addressed and would do that till I got what I deem as acceptable.

Oh, and as the screens go...My old Nexus Ones screen blows this one out the water. The colors are way more vibrant, blacks are truly black, whites are white, I dont care if you hold the phone at a 45 while upside down laying on you back taking a wizz the screen looks the same regardless. Its just not a comparison at all. Thats a AMOLED btw.

Give it a rest bud, in my case the phones are defective. Nothing you can argue over to change that as I am the end user and have been through so many that your long winded posts cant change the fact the these POS phones reboot, GPS is a joke and the screens are crap in terms of bleed. You will have better luck, and look less foolish trying to argue that blue is really red.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Tom was sent here by LG to do some damage control.

Tom, you do realize there are plenty of people who had defective phones without usind so called TWEAKED SETTINGS.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
Tom aka (CAL damage control)

1) t mobile pulled the phone for 2 months..........enough said.

2) Google doesn't back up anything that would be called tweaks. this makes be believe that you do work for LG since they don't know what android really does either.

3) we've heard your statements about ips screens enough already just link to the other 100 posts. the facts are some of the screens the bleed was way past anything you would call normal. and in fact made the screen unusable for everyday use. It occurred I had 1 get over yourself. there were phones with screen bleed so bad as to see in everyday use period.

4)reason people kept the phone (because screen bleed was acceptable on those particular devices) was the promise the update would be soon or sooner than we thought. and would fix these issues.-the only reason the gb update came was the CAL look at the o2x still nothing.

5) and tmobile has ceased the ota and the phones still has problems for many. and those that got refurbs for the faulty new product cant use the lg tool so no update for them.

really getting tired of your screen teachings. i don't care if its a technology if its poor than don't sell products with it. with this particular thing its obvious that it may be a natural side effect but can be minimized as to not cause a problem , and on many devices this was not done.

LG pleas give tom a raise he is doing his best for you but unfortunaltey he is not getting anything you can use in the CAL because his logic is flawed and he will not convince anyone that there were no problems with this phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sandiegopaneraiguy:
Tom, you obviously have not read anything Ive written. OR you simply care to deflect the facts in exchange for your fantasy.

Because if you had, you would realize that the original phone had both known issues PRIOR to root access or modding even being possible.

The first phone was 100% as delivered by T-Mobile and LG for the first two-three weeks of my owning it.

The issues had NOTHING to do with anything that I (or anyone else) did to the phone. Fault rests entirely on LG for making a device that is substandard.

As others have said, there really is nothing else to discuss with you. You are obviously either delusional or simply incapable or reading and comprehending what others write/say. In either case, your knowledge and obvious dedication/obsession is of no interest to any of us.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jimcarroll:
you have to get by the first person. once i did and talked to an actual tmo employee he said they were aware of shutting down/ reboot issue and sent me a new phone. The new one is awesome. my phone would shut down once it went into standby.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Ducter, gotta have some pretty high boots to deal with your spew. You seem to want to play return games on your screens, I guess just to get new phones...you were waiting for what?

You say your phones work fine on the stock ROM, yet you are playing games with all sorts of custom ROMs that you seem to not have the skills to do. Operator error or whatever.

Here is your report on your phones, you say all 4 work great.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14302193&postcount=887

seems pretty contradictory with your current slosh. Somehow you report that you are stuck with 4 G2x's now. And saying you will be without phones for 2 months to get them fixed.....no phones....waaa waaa waaaa...Gosh I might need higher boots still.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
This guy has 4 perfectly running phones http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14302193&postcount=887

A user that uses a custom ROM, then stores all their programs and settings, and puts those directly on stock ROM, and let them automatically restore is asking for trouble. Starting with a clean slate, is I guess rocket science.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
1. The phone was always being sold since introduction, your could buy them at Costco, Amazon, Wirefly, and T-Mobile stores. Saying the phone was pulled is a lie.

2. Google backs ups settings, restores them, and restores programs, the interchange of programs and various settings, as they randomly are applied as marketplace is downloading....is when the Lawsuit says the phone rebooted. That is a piss poor way of setting up a computer (phone), that it did not fly means nothing, but that is the basis of the CAL.

3. The screen bleed being so bad as to render the phone unusable is what you are selling? Seriously? Heck there is not even a picture of screen bleed that shows anything beyond taking phones in pure dark, turning them up to brightest, and then complaining about some slight variances. Nobody could ever show the screen bleed, in a real case of usage. PERIOD Show me a picture of this horrific screen you claim tortures you.

4. Nobody can promise that software is going to fix hardware. If you went to a T-Mobile store and a customer service rep said so, and based off that you keep the phone past your no questions asked trial period, look at the mirror, thats who to blame, go sue yourself.

5. The OTA update was issued to all devices. Why would you still continue to do a push. Its still available for update by demand. Now its a conspiracy why the GB update came when it did. Shocking.

When you sign a contract that says return the phone for a no questions asked policy, get a new device or cancel your service.....and YOU decide to keep the phone, past that period....who is responsible?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Ducter:
Your right Tom, I made it all up...or could it be that in 2 1/2 months since that post the phones are crap? Could it be that that was one of my first go rounds with exchanges and I hadnt had the phones long enough for them to show what they really were? I got the replacements and was excited as they seemed to work, my GPS locked on almost instantly...that all changed pretty quickly.

I have nothing to gain here by any of this, except to warn other people that these phones may not be the best bet to purchase right now. You on the other hand, I think perhaps your job may be at stake...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I agree that I have never seen a picture with enough screen bleed to render the device unusable. I only half way agree with your assessment on number 1.

Yes, the G2X device was still being sold in stores however, its obvious that T-Mobile ceased all new orders from LG until they figured out what to do. I don't think T-Mobile ever saw returns on a single device in such a large scale. They didn't pull the device completely but they told the stores that they wouldn't be getting any more phones after they depleted their stock. I am good friends with 2 different T-Mobile store managers that work at different locations. Both of them said they got emails stating this. No matter if someone knew this information or not, nobody can deny something fishy was going on with the G2X. First they rais the price because they said it was so popular. Then after making the device available again online, they make it free. So it goes from having its price hiked to being a free phone? If you can look at this and not admit something wrong was going on here then you sir are in complete denial.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Spyvie:
Tombaker you have repeatedly stated that you do not work for LG or T-Mobile, is this still your position?

You seem preoccupied with the 30 day return period, yet many of us were subjected to a much shorter 14 day return period.

There are several other points I'd like to make that are in direct contention with your assertions in the previous posts, but I believe that would be unwise at this time.

The calculated lies and the unseemly combination of ignorance and arrogance you display on this board has greatly strengthened what little resolve I had for a legal remedy. There is no way any company should get away with doing what LG has done, let alone having the nerve to bring you in for damage control.

I think your plan has backfired... I will be checking into the link provided and contacting the legal team responsible for the G2x CAL.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] richteralan:
Thanks for this thread that surfaced two corporate.........employees.

Ignore list updated.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] PseudoChris:
LG & Costco (bypass T-Mo)

I bought my first G2x at costco. Tried to update it via OTA popup on my phone (which you CAN'T get rid of unless you update)

It bricked the phone on the "update screen".

I called LG and they said to see if Costco would replace the phone, and if not, then they would replace it.

Costco has great customer service and warranties (AND prices) so in the future I'd recommend buying through them if possible. Otherwise, just call LG (more than once if you get a bad rep) and they will replace your phone.

Waiting for fix is not an option.. there's no reason to sit around with a broken phone that you just purchased.

Note: New phone went through the LG Updater process (as outlined on their website) just fine..

P.S.: If you're ever looking for more than a question to an answer do NOT use text-chat systems.

Make a phone call or visit a store location, people are much more likely to be understanding when they are speaking to you on the phone or in person.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Ducter:
Just got in from work and thought I would share something with you Tom, and I am sure you will agree this is completely normal account activity for someone's account.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Why do you guys even bother debating with some people? They're rarely taken seriously so no one's going to be misled. At least the smarter forum members anyway.

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adjective

1. not easily controlled or directed; not docile or manageable; stubborn; obstinate: an intractable disposition.

2. (of things) hard to shape or work with: an intractable metal.

3. hard to treat, relieve, or cure: the intractable pain in his leg.​
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Looks like on the same day you posted everything works 5-31-11 wonderfully you decided to order return two more, looking for better screen probably, since you posted in the morning that you believed that the phones were fine, and on the same day you returned two more them.

Thats a guess. I am sure you will have a tragic tale of why you returned more phones on 5-31 Meanwhile you are all running custom ROMs and complaining why your crackerjack reworking of the phones internals is not working right. You seem to be gaming the system with T-Mobile and returns. Complaining you will be without phones for months to get them fixed....gotta love that boat load

Gosh and T-Mobile telling you that the screens function as they do, and they are not going to accept more returns for it. So sad.

You said look up your old post to see the terrible story, well there it is

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14302193&postcount=887
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Ducter:
Actually, by the end of the day they were running like crap.

I think as others have said I am done here, for some unconscionable reason you cant take the obvious as a reality, instead choosing to place your reality in your own delusional world where facts and real life experiences mean nothing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Sinister for sure, its the man sticking it to the little guy. As the lawsuit claims every single phone is defective, LG knew it and released the phone, so everyone's G2x does not work, wait wait, that is not true. This is confusing.

Maybe the guy who started the lawsuit wanted to go to a different carrier after all. Which he did. Hmmmmm

So its either all G2x's are DOA, or that some peoples setups caused problems, to which a maintenance release was done to attempt fix any anomalies. The OS should work with any apps, any ROM, any settings, and the Settings that Google stores, should always be auto-reapplied, its just a simple phone, you know dial and connect, nothing more.

Now why is it that some people's phones never work and they have to keep returning over and over. HMMMMMMM could it be their setups, putting back a backup that was already wrong, hmmmm could it be like doing a clean install of an OS, that the actual setup counts.

Or is that Joe is sent 8 defective phones in a row. The odds of this...or the way he is using them....the odds of that.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I wouldn't say every G2X is defective. It seems to be the going average that 1 out of 5 are perfectly fine. If you want to live in your dream world and not admit there was legit problems with a large amount of phones then be my guest.

I take my first assessment back. Your not a LG employee. Your just some poor sole that is trying to justify your purchase and your only upgrade for the next 2 years.

By the way. All 5 phones I returned were bone stock. Nothing added on except apps from the market and nothing pulled off. T-Mobile pulled the device from being sold online to the masses. They told all the stores to sell what they had and they wouldn't give them more until things were sorted out. Things got half way sorted so there giving the rest of their inventory away for free.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Ducter, so you are saying that on the same day that you posted that all 4 of your phones were working perfectly, that suddenly they all went kaboom, to which you, on that very same day, sent 2 of them back, all with never even updating the post that you made that day. Sucks when you get caught lying. You do say a week later, that all the phones work fine so long as you keep them with the original ROM. Never bother to update the a week earlier all your phones took a dump, together, as if they all hurled themselves over a cliff, like little lemmings.

All of your phones worked fine with the stock ROMs, it was only your own ignorance and clumsey hands that broke your G2x's.

You say so. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14468308&postcount=141

Heres the breakdown on custom ROMs for my phones...they dont work. Some of them start off real promising and all but up to a day later the issues start happening. With this phone it just powers off when it decides to on anything

other than stock.

I dont overclock or mess with the voltages and have tried without loading any of my apks and it all ends with the same results.

Its not just my phone, happens on all 4 of the G2X's on my account. I sure hope that whenever LG decides to release Gingerbread that the Devs here can use the source to work some magic. The phones not bad on stock after removing the bloated crap thats included...just no where near as snappy as CM or Faux123's builds.​

You start off with a working phone, screw around with what you know clearly not enough about, break your phones, then whine and complain that LG messed up.

Got anything to say? Nope, you already did. Are you done now, or you want to float out some me pure out lies and see if they stick too. POS
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vapor311:
Hey Tom which location do you work at?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Vapor,

I am in the Ether,

and unassociated.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Acknowledgment of the problems by LG Italy - May, 2011

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ems-continue-no-fix-for-several-weeks--959705

Acknowledgment from LG Europe - May, 2011

http://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-mobile-global/status-updates-for-the-lg-optimus-2x/221518191192842

Acknowledgement from LG Australia - May, 2011

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/257825,lg-aus-irons-bugs-out-of-optimus-2x.aspx

All of this was before the phone was even released in the U.S.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
@Tombaker....There you go assuming nonsense bull**** again. I do own the phone. I actually in one point and tine owned two. One for me and one for my wife. You also assume that I am restoring all of my old apps and settings. News flash know it all. I do not restore a single setting or app on any of my brand nes phones. I like starting from scratch since I've found that restoring **** automatically causes problems. Stop acting like you know what I or anyone else did with their phones. Just deal with the fact that its a good phone if you get a bug free one. Also deal with the fact that there has been more problems with this phone than any in recent history. Yea others have problems but not to the extent of being taken off Tmobiles website only to be brought back for the big fat price of FREE. Nor have others generated class action lawsuits but that's a totally different story. The affection you have for your 2 year investment is sickening. You act as if you have more than $250 invested into this thing. I'm done with you. Once someone starts talking out of their ass and making **** up is where I draw the line. So I'm gonna go ahead and REBOOT myself out of this conversation.

Peace.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Yes there has been a problem for some users with some drivers for there applications. Its software.

Microsoft issues service packs for reasons, much of those patches are for specific error that occur in specific conditions, most of which are not touched.

People are posting that the phone works fine, up and until they start installing custom ROMs, Ducter is one. The guy doing the lawsuit Roots all of his phones.

Does the Google OS have need of some patches to address the dual core, yes. But anyone that had problems, saw them and choose to keep the phone. RETURNING the phones over and over, was never going to fix something that is driver and software related.

The guy doing the lawsuit had 30 days to walk away, he never did, he understood the issues within days, he testifies to that, yet he never returned it in the 30. Go figure.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
JRWINGATE aka trollamatic

1. I never said you restore your applications using the update of marketplace, I am talking about the guy in the class action, that what he was doing when it rebooted in front of the T-Mobile store, during the batch update. Good to know that you also think the manner in which the Plaintiff in the CAL is prone to failure and problems. Another vote for operator error.

2. You said you sold your G2x. The one that T-Mobile gave you for no cost and gave you a Sensation. Of course you are a chronic returner, and returned that phone 3 or 4 times, but that is another story.

3. My G2X has been the most responsive/most stable mobile device I've every owned. Everything "just works". What POS troll said that, oh its JRWINGATE

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14325992&postcount=31

4. You returned your G2x 3 times for the screen bleed issue, which is bogus, as it only shows under worse case conditions, IF you are looking for it. You were happy at first until you learned you could start returning the phone, which you did, up until you got them to give you a free Sensation. Nice scam.

5. The G2x was always on the T-Mobile website, never removed, it was out of stock, and did come back in stock when they began shipping with the Gingerbread as stock. I bought my G2x for the same effective price as Free. 80 dollars, with free case, charger and bluetooth worth about 40 combined, and free activation 30 bucks....so 10 bucks then.

6. The Class Action lawsuit is evidence only that a user rooted his phone, waited 40+ days before even sending it back, got upset. After the T-Mobile swap, he got the bright idea to go to LG directly, who pointed him back to T-Mobile, so he sued LG because he can not sue T-Mobile.

7. Sensation has a different but >/= number of problems. Enough to where the litigant in the class action sought out and posted that the Sensation was fine. Now for someone that is using the XDA forums for evidence, its offly odd to be doing a skew like that.

Completely circular logic. Now you scamper away, tail between legs, roach to the sunlight...away

I have had the device since day 2 and haven't had any problems with it. Who says so....you says so. When you sold your G2x you also said it had not problems still
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
Plantiff in G2x CAL posting on a thread about 10 common problems with the EVO 3d

Poor call quality - choppy/garbled	15	7.85%

Poor signal strength - lost calls	36	18.85%

BT quality	4	2.09%

Poor battery life	24	12.57%

System reboots	4	2.09%

Phone overheats	6	3.14%

Phone won't turn on w/out resetting battery.	11	5.76%

Picture quality	10	5.24%

Low speaker volume	72	37.70%

GPS problems	9	4.71%

So that about 15% says the EVO 3D reboots, freezes and and has screen issues, as the top problem, safe to assume respondents has more than a single problem, it was #1 issue....so actual count is higher but not just #1.

Now keenly aware of his 30 days, he posts

Problems? We dont have no stinkin problems! The Evo 3D has worked perfectly for me so far (6 more days on 30 day return...)

You want problems, move to T-Mo and buy a G2x!​

Suddenly the problems not related to the phone in his lawsuit, are what, trivial? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16186026&postcount=20