yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
O RLY?

You mean like this...?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16406438&postcount=1

"A friendly FYI..."

Yeah, that doesn't seem to go over well either.

EDIT: Also, never said it was trolling. I never claimed you were trolling nor did I say anything about any person that disagreed with me.

However...here's some examples of trolling:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16561631&postcount=100

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16562574&postcount=111

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16563230&postcount=123

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16563549&postcount=135

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16563997&postcount=142 <---that's a great example

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16564081&postcount=144

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16564119&postcount=146

There's plenty more examples but what's the point?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
So i wasted 5 minutes of my life to find your stupid link. Turns out its the same link I posted earlier in the thread. Not only that but it specifically states this isn't new. Holy **** Matty, you really are a waste.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Exactly like that, which you turned into a vendetta against FB.

Is FB the end all, greatest thing to ever hit the internet?? Of course not, but it got me in touch with people I served in the Army with in Korea 26 years ago. People I assumed I'd never ever see again. It got me the ability to see pics of my newborn family members that live all over the country. It reunited my ex band mates who live in all four corners now, and just because you, what, watched The Social Network and saw Zuckerberg stepped on some toes to get to the top, you're gonna fight the fight the good fight??

Big effin deal! Look around Matt, almost everyone on both threads is shooting you down. You wanna talk about losing respect for me?? Meh...
[EVO 4G General] Philyteach:
So I'm back to A) this isn't new B) You gave them permission to sync, not their fault if you don't read what you agree to C) only I see that page, so who cares?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I did?

You sure?

Because it seems more like certain members, yourself included in that, tried to make what I was saying into something I wasn't saying.

I never stated or even showed any "personal vendetta" against anyone in that thread.

But that's how you and a few other's tried to make it seem isn't it?

No, most people on XDA just don't post.

A few loud mouths isn't "almost everyone"

The 1.5.4 Facebook app apk has been downloaded over a 100 times which is more posts then were even made in the thread.

Most people just don't get involved with the posting, that's all there is to it.

As to the Edit you made of your post, here's my reply to your edit:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16566802&postcount=188
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
exactly...matty fails to look at facts and calls it trolling just because he can't admit that some people other than himself can be right. I already gave examples up top, but he doesn't want to quote where I was speaking the truth because he knows he got shut down and likes to divert the attention somewhere else.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Man, if only Matty had a fifth of your common sense.

Matty: so what do you have to say about that link?
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Did I say everyone on XDA?? I HATE when people make **** up to try and prove a point. I said on both threads...

DAYUM!
[EVO 4G General] Philyteach:
:::::::::::::::::WARNING: COMIC RELIEF CONTENT::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Okay, its getting a bit hot in this thread. As a reminder, if you don't read the user agreements on apps and software that you install, THIS may happen to you!
[EVO 4G General] Halient:
thanks i found a ton of contacts that I def dont want online
[EVO 4G General] areyousure:
The problem isn't with the topic but with the same people posting over and over. I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the posts in the EVO section are by 5-10 people. Just because you are on XDA 14 hours a day doesn't mean you have to post on every single thread.

Learn to lurk more and that most people don't care what you have to say after the 2nd time.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
And I love when people ignore parts of posts, redirect, name call, troll, and flame other forum members. [end sarcasm]

You said that "most people" disagree with the other forum members and I which are "on the other side of the table" from you guys.

I showed you how the apk has been download 109 times.

That is way more than different people that have posted in both threads combined.

In fact, the 10 "thanks" I received total more unique forum members than the amount that "disagree" in

both of these threads combined

.

Point: Most people don't post. Especially when they agree.

It's sad that we are now discussing this in this thread.

But then again, if people just respected that others' are just trying to keep people informed on here, then we would have a problem and this thread never would have become out of control.

There was

no need

to come into either of these threads attacking and flaming other members.

Neither thread was a hate speech.

Neither thread was trying to get hacker groups to attack facebook.

Neither thread even claimed that Facebook WAS FOR SURE doing anything malicious.

Thanks for ****ting on people trying to do you a favor.

Most of the people that are coming in here trolling/flaming admit they don't use facebook to begin with.

So why come in here?!

They were just warnings.

That's all folks.
[EVO 4G General] Philyteach:
So you don't sync your phone with google? If you do, those contacts are just as online as they are with facebook.
[EVO 4G General] samuel346:
The only difference there is I explicitly allowed Google to have my contacts.

They didn't just show up one day on my Google account.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
You know what I learned about you? You're one of those annoying pricks that argues, just to argue....
[EVO 4G General] newter55:
Slow learner?
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Close thread
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Actually it does. It says "add facebook pictures, status, and contact info to contacts?" Then you have three choices, Dont Sync, Sync with Existing Contacts (sync data only about friends already in contacts), or Sync All ( sync data about all facebook friends to your contacts)"

So, by reading that, you assume that Sync with Existing Contacts will sync information FROM facebook ONLY to those that you also have BOTH in your phonebook and on facebook. And you assume that Sync All will sync ALL friends FROM facebook, even if you dont already have them in your contacts.

NONE of these choices say that facebook will sync YOUR contacts that you DON'T also have on facebook. This is where we are mad.

And for all those who are saying "just don't sync with facebook", well I LIKE having the ability to be able to go directly to someone's facebook page from my People app, and to see their profile pictures, so I don't have to manually take a picture of every single person in my contacts. What I don't like is facebook taking my contacts that AREN'T on facebook. Yes, I understand that "syncing" is a 2-way thing, but the Facebook app should ONLY sync data with people I am friends with on facebook, not people I aren't friends with. There is absolutely no point for facebook to have information for all of my contacts.
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
Kind of weird how you let yourself get sucked in there, eh?

Everyone, just stop. No one f***ing cares. Either it bothers you and you'll do something about it, or it doesn't and you won't. 21 f***ing pages of *****ing and arguing is...

All I can say is that I hope to God a root method is released soon.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Uh oh I must have made a good point to which you have no comeback for.

Must attack.

Must name call.

Must flame.

Anyway, you have a good day dude.

Quoted for truth and because I'm out of thanks.

Prepare your flame suit sitlet.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
and that's where people get into trouble... They "ASSUME" and not read ToS or whatever documentation that is laid out to them..
[EVO 4G General] AA27:
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
If I sell you a warranty named the "100% coverage in all situations warranty" and then in the ToS I put "covers nothing" are you trying to suggest that's acceptable?

As he said, the app is clear in what it syncs.

I don't "sync all" contacts yet all of my mobile contacts are in there.

Its deceiving, you can't argue that.
[EVO 4G General] newter55:
Sheesh... I assumed that it could communicate with old friends upload gigs worth of pics and videos, chat, play games, blahblah, all for free without the slightest concern that they would use my information as a source of income. Gawd I am naive.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
I guess you didn't really read what he typed since you STILL don't understand. I guess you're still going off the "assumption" and thinking it as fact. I would love some clown to try a class action lawsuit and get slammed hard just because they decide to bypass every single documentation and was to lazy to read what they were getting into.
[EVO 4G General] jwzg:
Enough trolling, and BS. Thread closed.
[EVO 4G General] {ParanoiA}:
Some crazier **** is when I posted that YouTube video on my Facebook page (that I just made 2 days ago) I couldn't login for about 3 hours. They were definitely doin something to it!

Sent From My Pocket
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
How does this relate to the SMS hype?,,,,

does this have anything to do with the upcoming messaging service?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
If you can't see the connection between the two [privacy] then I don't how anyone can help you.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Well, admittedly, I don't FB. So they used your SMS to snag all your contacts? Help me understand how your last thread was relevant. I'm seriously, and honestly curious how your last thread (and the flaming) has anything to do with this. Apart from sketchy ass FB (which we already knew). I'm just curious.

EDIT: Genuinely curious. I just see you referencing your last thread, and those questioning / flaming, and wonder how it relates to this. Apart from FB being an info whore (which we knew) and all that. Not trolling. Non FBer here ... legitimately curious.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
That's exactly what he meant. They're accessing crap they have no business accessing. First your SMS, now contacts, what's next? You pictures? Videos? Emails? Phone calls?
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Yeah, but, no. What are they doing with your SMs? Can we confirm anything? I was asking how his previous thread (which he was 'suggesting' was proof of something) was worth bringing up. We all know FB has some sketchy practices, I knew that last week, was just curious how it played into this totally different angle. He brought it up in two different FB / threads. I'm just trying to find the correlation, apart from the obvious that we know. Just curious how the SMS issue, directly, plays into this.

If its all about FB being evil and all that **** (and that somehow related to his thread) then why was he so pissy then? Things haven't changed in a week. Now he is acting like his SMS hype relates to this? I get that FB is sketchy .. but help me see the relation between the two? This certainly isnt something, ad a whole, of the later week ...
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You're looking to far into it. They have information they shouldn't and want access to information they have no business in.

As far as SMS I do know their new messaging program will allow you to text to non facebook users thru facebook messenger so that may be the reason they asked for those permissions and why your phone contacts are now on facebook as well, however its a separate app and still makes no sense. Point being though is that we did not allow them to grab this information.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Yes agreed hope.fb goes down lol
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dude, he's just trying to call me out as he always attempts to do in ANY thread possible.

You don't see him ever asking other people the "relevance" of their posts.

I could find a few others in this very thread.

Don't feed him.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I can understand that. Was merely in regards to this 'flaunting' of 'and they flamed me in my last thread's when I can't really see the correlation between the two.

While I may not FB, and I don't need to in order to understand and see the BS, I was just curious how they were related. I don't need to use to understand what I read. A lot of ****, no doubt.

I also wonder how we are so forgiving of information submission to Google and yet so defensive about it getting out elsewhere. I, personally, wouldnt want to submit to FB ... but Google? I don't mind. So strange. I'd be more worried about the latter in a way.

Going back to the thread topic ... why hasnt there been so much talk about the permissions? Are they warranted? Future sense? I saw some hype about the new YouTube permissions and it turned out to be for a legitimate reason. I'm not trying to flame, but to understand this sudden swing, so long as it is reasonable.

And as easy as it is for Matty to constantly claim troll ****, I'm curious about going back to what was brought up by DS. So that FB messaging is entirely separate? There is no possible correlation between the two? Is there no possible reason / excuse for the new perms? And no, for once, I'm not trolling Matthew. I just saw him, twice, mention his past thread and was curious. If I wanted to troll Matthew I could on G+, like smurf. But I don't. I can be decent.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Read my edit.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Obviously they're both facebook apps but why would an app not being used for messaging require your sms? I can see why facebook messenger would but not the main facebook app.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
U

Again, can't speak for it, but they don't relate / correlate? Entirely two separate apps?

Your quote ate my edit. Blah.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Entirely two separate apps made by same company.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yup.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.facebook.orca&feature=search_result

Therefore, those permissions are completely unnecessary.

Funny part is, this app doesn't even have those permissions! LMAO
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
I see no reason for the perms changes what so ever not until they have something set up to use it its bs and assuming it.really is hackers going to try to take fb down would they do it without just cause I know many hackers do **** for fame however there is always a cause and I agree fb is aweful and as far as Google having info least they are upfront and have levity reasons for their perms
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
So anyway,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Almost makes you ask "what's next"
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
This is true thanks op
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I would still have posted, as I was interested. And I was trying to stay on topic. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned your past post, but you seemed to have been gloating about it like it had something to do with this. Apart from 'privacy.' Derp derp 'predicting future mobile data usage is like predicting the weather derp.' You can be such a clown sometimes. Which is amazing because at times you have some legitimate **** to say. Makes it all the more baffling. Sometimes I think you've been drinking more than me.

FB is evil. We knew this months ago. Longer. Outrage last week and now act like this is the usual? Huh. 'I was totally right. Whatever.' LOL
[EVO 4G General] github:
Awwwww *sniffle* Don't worry, you have the Iron Fist to help now. Better go delete your troll post over in Q&A quick!

Back on topic, facebook didn't "steal" anything. They just made a copy. People who use facebook make me laugh when they cry about privacy.

Look who's talking.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
So many crybabies in this thread..wtf you guys think would happen when you sync your contacts with Facebook? If you don't like it then don't sync you contacts with Facebook or delete it and move on...damn drama queens
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
When i click on contacts, it just spools, but if you sync your FB contacts on your phone, would you not expect them to be there?? Yahoo contacts have been like this for years!

OMG, I went to to Google contacts on my computer, and ALL MY PHONE FRIENDS ARE LISTED THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOOOOOOO.....

Idiots...
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Oh yeah, Amazon Music Cloud has all my music too, those bastards....
[EVO 4G General] github:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/10/in-the-book/

I believe every word that Facebook says.
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
well my google account and facebook accounts are synced so it makes sense that they are all there, kinda convenient actually..

but i also browse with https secure connection and dont mess with stupid apps so i wont be a phish victim
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Those saying we are cry babies we arnt op was informing ppl and if u hate having privacy then don't read these threads I'm for sharing just not my entire life

Ps. Convenience is this countrys problem n the new generation isn't called the lost generation for nothing
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
All I want to know, and I could not see it in this thread.

When these contacts are there...does anyone but me see them? Does my number show to all my daughters friends? Is it a contact list just for me?

EDIT...answered in a link from above.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Yeah cause ur **** can't be seen by them the government or a hacker ever right

Edit it isn't about friends seeing it its about the things it can b used for and who could see it if needed or who wanted it n hacked ur **** reg ppl are idiots that use the net
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Anybody in this thread ever read the book 1984?

Definitely required reading at my high school.

Definitely seems like wasn't for others.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
One day these people might wake up but doubt it matty
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
1984? FB provides a free opt in service, nobodies forcing you to use it.

Is the info even public? Or just a private list?
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Google it n go to the library
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
A "free opt in service"?

Hmmm...let's review.

1) Facebook downloads your entire contact list without ever asking you

2) The only way to even know about it is to look in your mobile contacts section

3) They *allow you* to then "delete" those contacts [even though it's been clearly shown before that ANYTHING you delete off Facebook is still retained on their servers]

Doesn't sound like a "free opt in service" to me.

Sounds more like a "we'll take your data and have it anyway, hahaha" service.

Now, if Facebook asked in the first place

before

downloading my entire phone's contacts...you'd have a point.

But that isn't how it went so you don't.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Just as I thought it only syncs people who are on Facebook.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't see anyone on my FB phonebook that isn't on Facebook.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
NO. IT. DOESN'T.

As I stated before, it's more than likely that this is a "feature" that is still being rolled out that some just haven't received yet.

It's also important to know that you have to use the app for this "feature"

My entire phone list was downloaded including 200 contacts NOT ON FACEBOOK.

This has been confirmed by other forum members and even by people outside of these forums we have warned
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Wait I was wrong but either way:

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/the-facebook-scare-that-wasnt/

I tend to agree with that and not a mob of tin hat wearing alarmists.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Guy has some good points but like he said George may not like fb having his number SO they shouldn't ****ing have it BTW that's a damn blog jesus no diff then this
[EVO 4G General] jacoballen22:
Facebook responded by saying that only we can see our contacts but we never asked for them to be there in the first place.

World peace with no regard for human life.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
FB has gone out to say that you're the only person who can see or use (via FB functions) the list. If you delete your account its as if it never existed.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Bull**** only we can their admins can the gov could if needed and a damn hacker could get it as a security person that deals with computers SOMEONE always has or can get access
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Fact: Nothing put on the internet is ever truly deleted and that especially includes Facebook.

Sometimes I think you people were seriously born yesterday.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
So so true
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Please explain how a private page like that would be cached? I really want to hear you say something technically possible.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Think it isn't cached or saved a diff server in case that one hits the **** get real
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Got proof that something that stupid would be done? I've work on highly scalable web applications before. You must not understand how the web works. It may live on multiple servers but it won't live as permanent backup if you delete your account.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Whatever I'm done with this thread wasted enough time thanks again op award have a good day im sure there will be another thread to fight in to tired for this ****
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah, it's pointless.

Anyway, in case anyone is interested in how to properly truly delete your Facebook:

http://antisocial.nectareen.com/how-do-i-delete-my-facebook-account/

Just remember to have several hours set aside to click the delete button for every item, message, comment and post you've ever made and several weeks for Facebook to "get around to get" :rolleyes:

Just remember that somewhere on the internet, whether it's a Facebook server or not, it's likely cached forever.

Also note that the word deactivate does NOT mean delete.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Still, it is slightly better to not be totally public. I am not saying it is good, just not "as bad".

The bigger issue...if anyone who has your number has facebook, it doesn't matter if you delete ;)

They will probably call you in a few weeks to tell you they saw you accidentally deleted but they reinstated you.
[EVO 4G General] Kevin K:
All of the numbers are what your friends put on FB. FB gives you the option to put your phone number in. I wont put mine. Never have. It has been like that for over a year or 2
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Thanks for proving that you haven't read a thing. :)

Even the article posted by people saying "this is not a big deal" confirms that it's ALL OF YOUR PHONE'S CONTACTS WHETHER THEY HAVE FACEBOOK OR NOT

Particularly this quote:
[EVO 4G General] randebo:
Yep, your phone contacts are there if...

you sign up for live updates from FaceBook on your phone ALL of your phone's contacts are there. The ones that are NOT FaceBook friends have a silhouette with a cell phone to the right of it.

I don't use FB on my cell and only have FB friend's numbers...my wife DOES use FB on her phone and ALL of her phone contacts plus FB friends are listed, so FB DOES have record of all of your contacts!!
[EVO 4G General] jacoballen22:
This is true I saw it myself however I don't think it's fair for them to automatically add the contacts. Then again I'm perfectly fine with integrating with gmail.

World peace with no regard for human life.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I don't understand how people think this is okay, and then we complain we have no rights but people so willingly give them away in the name of "convenience" and "safety". I am one that hasn't synced his data with facebook since the Hero because most people don't update their number on facebook and i always had multiple numbers under one name yet SOMEHOW they have the latest updated contact list from my phone there. I have not synced to facebook in well over a year.