yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
My good. This testing on speedtest has eating all of my data mobile package!!! I have unlimitet internet on my phone but only 1GB with maximum speed. And now i dont have any max speed. Need to bay 1GB again to have full speed for testing but i manage to see some better results with dish 3. Sometimes are less but sometimes are more better. Screenshots soon ;)
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Hm today my data transfer speeds are lower with dish3??? And when i try to flash dish2 a get this message: "Model ID incorrect! Press Power to reboot"? Is this because i am not super cid or?

My Mid is PG5813001 and cid is HTC__032. But in text file of DISH2 are this information:modelid:

PG5810000

cidnum: 11111111

cidnum: T-MOB010

mainver: 3.32.401.5

hbootpreupdate:1

mf2112?what do you think about my problem? :D
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I think you will need to either supercid or edit the android-info.txt to include your CID.

1. Open the PG58IMG.zip file using 7-Zip or Windows Explorer and copy the android-info.txt file out to a folder. Leave the PG58IMG.zip file opened.

2. Use Notepad++ to edit the android-info.txt file. Do NOT use Notepad or Wordpad, it will destroy the Unix formatting.

3. Add your CID using the same "cidnum:" format, or you can simply edit one of the existing lines to replace that CID with your own.

4. Make very sure you have EIGHT (8) characters in your CID, like "T-MOB010".

5. Save the file after editing it. Close Notepad++.

6. Drag the android-info.txt file into the opened PG58IMG.zip file. Choose to overwrite the existing one.

7. Copy to your SD card and proceed to flash normally in bootloader.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
There are two numbers with cid: number two is supercid number and number three is T-MOB010. Which one do i change to my original cid? 2or 3? And your step 3 says FORMAT? Can i just edit one of those cidnum? And modelid is different?

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Again the same error....can i just edit and mid because the note is related to the incorrect mid??
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
You can change the T-MOB010 to your CID. You can add another line for the modelid. That should allow it to work for you.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Yesss i did it...now i will try some testing but the speeds are always different...its hard to deside
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Yeah, it is like the different radios in that respect. There will always be a range, so you have to use the average to determine which one is better. I found that the low end for DisH2 and DisH3 were about the same for me, but the highest marks came with DisH3 and my average speed over a number of tests and normal usage was better.
[HTC Sensation] deol 4ever:
Hey guys is it okay if I have only one mention of ro.ril.hsxpa in the build prop I'm on 11.69 radio that came with the firmware I flashed nd I'm on ordroid 5.00

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
That is fine, different ROM chefs have different entries in the build.prop file and different ways they handle it. Some leave the default entries and then add their own to the end, and some just make a new build.prop file. As long as the ro.ril.hspxa value matches the DisHx value then you should be fine.
[HTC Sensation] calebfx:
hello just a newb question is 11.72.3405.00P_11.23.3405.08_M2 different from 11.72.3504.00U_11.23.3504.08_M2?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
The U or P is for the carrier. No difference in the radio version.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
I'm sorry if this has been asked already, but is there a list anywhere which says what radio is best for the different areas of the world? Do they vary for the network you're on too? I'm wanting the best one I can for Northern England, on h3g.
[HTC Sensation] kingston73:
There is no such list as far as I know.
[HTC Sensation] Tigermoto:
I live in Rochdale, near Manchester. I'm on three also. I will test a few tomorrow and see if I can help you out a bit.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
No such list as far as I know either; not sure how helpful it might be given the variations between phones and radios and individual cell towers.

Thanks!!
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Cheers, I'm only an hour away from you, so I reckon we'd need the same. Thanks mate, wish I had the time to test them all myself, but two kids put a stop to that.

All I know is I'm currently using the one supplied with the 3.32 firmware, HTC-RIL 4.0.0013HMQ?
[HTC Sensation] jordin1128:
New tmous ics ruu out!!

Steve0007 released what I'm guessing is the leaked official ics update for the Sensation 4G users. New radio & new ril for us US users!!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Not necessarily a new radio/RIL, but I am downloading the RUU right now from Steve and will check it out. He did not mention it in his thread and he is generally very good about such things.

Edit: Well, trying to download it but the servers are obviously pretty hammered. :(

Edit2: Still downloading but initial reports from Steve0007's thread are that it is using the 11.69A radio which we already have. :(
[HTC Sensation] jordin1128:
Well by reading the RUU Title, it's says it uses the same radio as "3.32.709.108 RUU" (11.69A.3504.00_11.23.3504.07_M2).

If they use the same radio, more than likely it would be the same RIL (HTC-RIL 4.0.0017HMQ)??
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Yes, same radio, same RIL.
[HTC Sensation] jordin1128:
Thought so...maybe I was just a little excited for what I've been patiently waiting for lol..sorry bro
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Yep, me too. Sigh. I am actually getting slightly better results with the 11.72 radio than I was getting with 11.69A so I guess I will stick with it.
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
mf2112,

Can you double check what RIL came with the TMOUS update. I have flashed the WIFI CALLING fix from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1654940

and it updated the RIL to 4.0.0024. *it said that the ril was extracted from the RUU.

The other request :), Can you update the RCdata image with the one in the RUU. I don't want to change my actual ROM, but I want to get the complete FW and RADIO (RCdata) form the TMOUS update. The rcdata, changed the IMEISVN from 1 to 2.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Really, that is interesting. Normally you would want to keep the radio and RIL matched for best operation. If the RIL from the TMOUS update is 4.0.0024, then it would seem best to use the 11.72 radio to match.

I did notice that the rcdata.img is also set for DisH2, didn't notice the IMEISVN change though. I was planning on putting together a package for that as well, not really sure if it is different than the two we have but definitely needs to be checked out.

Unfortunately I have to work and today will be a bit busy, but I will be checking the radio/RIL situation out as soon as I get home, as well as doing the new DisH2 package.

Update: One initial observation from my testing is that it seems less necessary to match the RIL to the radio with the ICS versions.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
newest radio and dish 3 are the winner combo for me:)
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
I'm running off the an extraction of the RUU and I definitely have 4.0.0024 RIL with 11.69A radio running dish 2. I haven't played around with combos yet, but this setup is running just as strong as 11.69A/4.0.0017/dish2 was for me (which was my strongest setup before).
[HTC Sensation] eterno13:
Any new of wich is the best combo???
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Your Mileage May Vary. Please try a couple combinations and report back for your area.
[HTC Sensation] mamdouhn:
Can we use this for normal sensation ?
[HTC Sensation] DML08:
I'm on AOKP and only find to.ril.hsxpa=3 once in the build prop, I've flashed the latest firmware which is dish 2 when I change that 3 to 2 my phone starts doing funky things, such has after boot and I lock then unlock my apps and menu won't pop up..
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Very strange....can't say that I have seen that before and I have changed back and forth between different DisHx versions and ro.ril.hspxa=x values. However, I am not using an AOKP version so it is not really an apples-to-apples comparison. Just thinking about it though, I don't understand how that change could affect anything else on the phone as it is really only related to the radio settings.

How did you edit the build.prop file? On the phone through ES File Explorer or some similar app? Or did you pull the file to the PC through ADB or something and then edit it there?
[HTC Sensation] DML08:
Thanks for the reply man, I edited the build prop using ES File Explorer, after a few times and a few reboots I decided to try again, after I edited the build prop I Rebooted into recovery and wiped Cache and Delvik so far it hasn't happened again.. but I only find the ro.ril.hspxa value once in the AOKP build prop not twice.. all is good so far :D..
[HTC Sensation] PandaKiller:
11.72.3504.00U seems to have battery improvements ;)
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Only seeing one entry for ro.ril.hspxa is fine, different ROM chefs handle the default build.prop entries in different ways. Some leave the original values and add more entries to the end, some replace the whole file. Glad to hear it is working now. :D
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Haven't noticed specific battery improvements myself, but I think that is somewhat dependent on how much signal is being received from the tower and how much your phone has to use it's power to amplify that signal. The 11.72 radio seems faster to me for data transfer when used with the DisH3 update file then my prior combination of 11.69A and DisH2.
[HTC Sensation] eterno13:
For me on houston tx usa the new tmobile firmware with the radio 11.69 and latest ril
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Thank you for posting that info, much appreciated!
[HTC Sensation] KingP1n:
Just updated my wifes stock sensation 4g and i can confirm it has 11.69a wit 4.0.00.24, weird huh...
[HTC Sensation] marcusgolden:
What are the latest rils (TMO ICS release) and what difference are they from the current ones on this thread? And how do you get them without flashing the rom? I guess I should have asked if you can use the lastest rils (TMO ICS release) in roms like ARHD6.6.4?

I haven't tried the lastest rils, but 11.69A on Disk 3 gave me a slight improvement in data speeds than 11.69 on Disk 3 in Oxford, MS. Disk 3 appeared to be better than Disk 2 in all my tests with all the radios.

Now, I want to try the new Disk 2 file (posted a page back) with the latest rils and radio. What radio does the lastest rils match? Lol, I need the latest ril file first, unless it's already posted here in the thread or I already have it.
[HTC Sensation] amsterdam88:
I live in Italy, can i flash latest radio?

Actually i've 11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M.

What's the advantages to flash latest radio instead of the actually i run?

I read first post but i don't understand everything (i don't speak english very well), what's the step to follow to flash new radio?and what is ril?do i use recovery to install or i use adb?
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
In Cincinnati, my best combo has been 11.69A dish3 followed closely with 11.72 dish3. Using the "official" tmous ics combo results in a very erratic signal with many drops.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
It seems that the latest RIL is 4.0.0024, I don't believe they are any different than the ones that appear in the thread. You get them by downloading the packages from the links in the first post and flash them through recovery. You can use them with ARHD 6.6.4, I am doing it right now. There will always be some RIL included the ROM, check the version with any of the methods in the first post.

Thanks for testing that location info, hopefully any one in MS can also give is a try.

It seems less important to match the radio and RILs than with the GB versions. I haven't gone to try the earlier ICS radios/RILs but I suspect now that they might work ok with the later radios and maybe better for some people in some locations. All the available radios and RILs are in the first post.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
You can flash the latest radio if you wish. I can't say that there are advantages to flashing the latest radio for your phone in your location. It seems that there are enough variations in the electronics on the phone and in the cell towers in various locations to make no single "best" combination possible for everyone. The latest radio may not be as good as your current radio, or it may be better. There is literally no way to predict it without you actually trying it.

This is not a perfect analogy, but the radio is like a firmware in Windows terms, and the RIL is like a driver. You need both for it to work properly. Typically the radio is included in the firmware and the RIL is included in the ROM.

I am not sure how else I can describe the steps to flash the radio. I gave two different methods in the first post and either should work fine. Which steps are unclear?
[HTC Sensation] DML08:
where is the dish3 update? I thought the latest was only dish 2?
[HTC Sensation] amsterdam88:
Ok, helped by Google Translator i flashed latest radio and ril.

Now, is there a way to know if this radio is better than my old radio?

thanks for your help
[HTC Sensation] tangcla:
Trial and error, really is the only way.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
check near the top of the first post in this thread for the link, or go here. :D
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Trial and error is the only way for sure since every phone and cell tower in every region is different. You can try different ICS radio and RIL combinations.

For measurements, I use Speedtest, and the diag menu strength readings. Open the phone and dial *#*#4636#*#* and tap the Phone Info button. You will see the -db and ASU readings. I also browse sites and use XDA for "real world" testing.
[HTC Sensation] DML08:
Thanks man, I wasnt sure if I can still use this with the latest update to change Dish..
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
That works too, just doesn't have the instructions to edit build.prop, but if you don't need it.... ;)
[HTC Sensation] HunnyBearLewis:
A few tests...

In an effort to find the best configuration for the myself (in Arizona) I've been gathering data...this post covers 11.69A.3504.00U w/ RIL 4.0.0017 and the 3 DisH files as my variable. I used SpeedTest for this. :cool:

(Test # : ping / down / up)

11.69A.3504.00U / 4.0.0017 / "Old" DisH2

*

Living Room Test One:

185ms / 1.16Mbps / .61Mbps

Living Room Test Two:

180ms / 2.85Mbps / .90Mbps

Backyard Test One:

224ms / .77Mbps / .35Mbps

Backyard Test Two:

227ms / .93Mbps / .30Mbps

11.69A.3504.00U / 4.0.0017 / "New" DisH2

Living Room One:

187ms / 1.85Mbps / .85Mbps

Living Room Two:

211ms / 4.20Mbps / .63Mbps

Living Room Three:

146ms / 2.09Mbps / .29Mbps

Backyard One:

129ms / 4.22Mbps / 1.53Mbps

Backyard Two:

184ms/ 5.85Mbps / 1.34Mbps

11.69A.3504.00U / 4.0.0017 / DisH3

Living Room One:

157ms/ 1.78Mbps / .61Mbps

Living Room Two:

120ms / 4.95Mbps / .97Mbps

Living Room Three:

189ms / 4.30Mbps / 1.16 Mbps

Backyard One:

125ms / 5.32Mbps / 1.29Mbps

Backyard Two:

144ms / 4.34Mbps / 1.33Mbps

Backyard Three:

138ms / 5.00Mbps / 1.60Mbps

I did three runs for some if it felt like one of two may have been a fluke (though there is still a good chance for flukes in my data as I can only do so many runs before I can't justify using more of my precious data ha)

Sure hope this helps somebody! In a few days I'll likely do the same thing with the 11.72 Radio and 4.0.0024 RIL. :)

*the Old DisH2 comparison may not be perfect because I closed SpeedTest and it picked a new server for the New DisH2 and DisH3 runs.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Recent updates have shown that radio/RIL matching seems to be less important than it was for the GB versions. I have not done full testing yet but have tested the combos below, HunnyBearLewis has done some good work here, but it is definitely possible to mix and match the 11.69A or 11.72 radios and the 4.0.0.0017 or 4.0.0.0024 RILs, and the newest DisH2 or DisH3 updates. I suspect that the other ICS radios/RILs can also be mixed in as well, I will try to test them this weekend if someone else doesn't do it first.

Note: The DisH2 file below was the newest one/URL]. I did not test the older DisH2 yet like below.

11.69A + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH3 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH3 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH3 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH3 = can work (best for me in the Vegas area so far)
[HTC Sensation] vvs_suthakar:
HI DEV

my Hboot 1.27

radio 11.23

i downloaded radio 11.72 and re flash but i can't see the changes on bootloader

the same is that radio 11.23 how can i change to radio 11.72
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Known issue that sometimes bootloader shows the wrong radio. Try Settings, About Phone, Software Info, More, and look for the Baseband version. If it shows the old value there too, then the radio flash did not work for whatever reason and you could redownload/reflash it. If the right value is there, then don't worry about what bootloader shows.
[HTC Sensation] vvs_suthakar:
yes thanks i saw 11.72.3504 under Baseband

and any have increase signal or data speed ?
[HTC Sensation] eterno13:
Reconfirme on houston tx usa..best combo its radio 11.69 dish 3 that is include an tmobile latest firmware and latest rill 4.0024
[HTC Sensation] MattyEL:
I posted this is the q & a thread and was referred here....

I'm hoping someone can help me out here. Been going at this for almost 3 hours now

I'm a tmo US user with the sensation 4g. Tried a couple different roms and found reception horrible with all. I then started to mess around with different radios and RILs only to find myself now with no reception and little to no wifi no mater what I flash.

Tried wiping and flashing CM9 nightly and that didnt help either.

Not sure if I need to provide any more infornation but would obviously apreciate any input

kernel v: 3.0.16-gc764bfb

baseband: 11.69a.3504.00u_11.23.3504.07_m2

Thank you

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I may have corrected my own problem. I flashed the 3.32 from the new tmo rom and I seem to have reception again. Are there any other fixes I am missing to help with the awful reception? I came over from a my touch 4g slide and reception was perfect.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
That is good to hear, I was reading your post and trying to figure out where to start. There are several things you can try. The last two radios seem pretty decent for most people and you can mix and match them with the last two RIL files and one of the TMOUS DisHx radio tweaks. There is no one "best" combination, various results have been reported from different locations.

One other thing to be careful of with the Sensation is that the little gold fingers on the back of the phone need to make good contact with the case. They can get bent too far inwards over time, and sometimes using an alcohol swap on them and the pads on the case is a good idea. First clean them and try it, and if you do bend them outward use a toothpick or something and be VERY GENTLE.
[HTC Sensation] awdlexusis:
Yes this is for the new radio.

2.3.4
[HTC Sensation] bigmase521:
Again, we want to know if these are RILs for the new radio specifically for TMOUS Sensations. Because it's in it's own category, it seems like it's just a European/general RIL for the new radio, but for TMOUS we need specific RILs. AFAIK, the new update hasn't been released for TMOUS phones, only European ones, so, it seems like the new RILs are for the new radio for Euro Sensations. Which may or may not help TMOUS Sensation owners. We're just asking glitzbd for confirmation, specifically for TMOUS that's all. :cool:
[HTC Sensation] hoevito:
I just flashed both, running p3d v3.1, and averaged between 800-900kb/s downloading large apps thru market. Using speedtest app I got about 4mbps but just gauging speeds loading webpages, general surfing, and doing large file downloads it seems to be on par with stock tmous radio/ril combo, maybe quicker...still need more time to accurately gauge speeds though...

Just try it and see how you like the new combo...it definitely DID NOT kill my speeds.
[HTC Sensation] bigmase521:
My ROM - LeeDroid v2.0 - already has this version RIL:

[16:53:47] jason[tty1]~/ $ adb shell getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"

HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ (Jul 8 2011,14:36:49)

So I want to know if that RIL in the OP is specific for TMOUS. If it IS, I'll flash, if it's NOT, I'll wait.
[HTC Sensation] glitzbd:
No the 169HMQ RIL is not for the TMOUS Sensation specifically, although it is required for proper functionality with the 2.3.4 Radio (from my experience, YMMV)

As for us getting our own TMOUS RIL we will need an official 2.3.4 from TMOUS and see if they use a different Radio/RIL combo!

Edit: I added a little side-note on the OP to hopefully alleviate any headaches you may be having, also I apologize for not watching the thread more closely, sorry!
[HTC Sensation] bigmase521:
No headaches at all man. You can probably judge from our previous PMs that I know what I'm doing. Just wanted confirmation on what I already thought was the case so thanks!! In any event performance with the new radio seems to be pretty good, but since it's not specifically for TMOUS, it could probably get even better. Will be interesting to see if TMOUS uses a different combo whenever that update gets pushed out :rolleyes: . :D
[HTC Sensation] glitzbd:
bigmase521 haha yeah I understand ya man, some others though had asked over PM, which I am perfectly fine with, mind you, but I figured any future headaches that could be avoided would save everyone time ;)

Perhaps to we should look at a stock TMOUS build.prop and see what copying over the radio specific commands do for us? I dunno most of these custom ROMs have custom build.prop files with their own mods, but perhaps those are Euro-specific edits?

Edit: Oh and I am still going to work on the automatcher that rmk dropped me, admittedly I've been lazy and tied up with nursing school application hogwash
[HTC Sensation] bigmase521:
Definitely agree about saving the future headaches for thread newcomers.

The stock build.prop is a good idea. I've been playing with mine the last few days and have made some discoveries. For example I get the best speeds so far with:

ro.ril.gprsclass=12

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=10

ro.ril.hsupa.category=6

ro.ril.hsxpa=3

The last one is probably the biggie. By default it's =2 but w/ =3 I get faster DL AND UL. And you're right about the Euro-specific edits. I'm running LeeDroid 2.0 and the build.prop it's all very Euro-specific. I just customize manually w/ each release but a one-size-fits-all that TMOUS users could then just copy over post-flash would be a great thing!
[HTC Sensation] Evo_Pimpin:
Subscribed for reference. Oh and this thread is very confusing. I'm on Leedroid 2.1.0 and still don't understand what radio to flash. Also how do I know what IRL my phone has.
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
This thread is NOT specific to any ROM.

This thread is specific to RADIOs and their matching Radio Interface Layer or RIL for short.

Just a simple disclaimer: If you are unsure in any way about what you are doing please cease and desist in applying any radios or RILs as these are specific to service providers and screwing around with radios can cause a *beep*load of problems
[HTC Sensation] Evo_Pimpin:
The only radios I’m flashing through adb are the ones recommended by the dev for the rom they are building. It’s just after reading the thread, this IRL stuff is all new to me.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
It's quite simple really. If Chef recommends any particular RADIO, rest assured, corresponding RIL is in the ROm already, so you don't have to do anything.

I'm on latest radio and ril, but it gives me much weaker reception than previous radio, so i'm going to play around with radios and rils to see if different combo (yes, you can mix and match ril and radio, but do it at your own risk) improves things for me.
[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
If you don't want your gps to work....sure.
[HTC Sensation] jonata:
hi,

maybe there is a ril for Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3 ?

tks very much !