yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MicroChip:
Are you certain? They were on sale last week and I didn't get one because I heard they didn't work with this rom, and I'm going on vaca and was hoping not to have to bring my laptop to hook up to the tv in the house we rented...

MC
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aasoror:
If you will be waiting for the next sale, why not order it for $26 shipped ? Its cheaper than the cheapest sale price ever offered on electronicscrap

http://www.dhgate.com/pv-ff8080812f533ea0012f53e3b9d02a30.html
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustinw82:
Very certain....

twitpic.com/60zzz4
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustinw82:
I can't confirm this one works, simply because the one I ordered was from electroniccrap.com. His price is $29 and he ships things out quickly.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashort79:
Help! I followed the directions to install this ROM. And everything goes fine until I go to reboot. It just sits at the VS Bird screen OR just says ANDROID.

What am I doing wrong?

BL 1.1
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aasoror:
I wouldn't worry about it, rest assured that they both are most probably getting it from the same Chinese manufacturer any way.

electronicscrap price is $29 + $5 shipping for US, $17 shipping for Canada and $19 for Europe.

Its hard to get competitive once your supplier start to offer sales in a quantity of one, but Steve has the advantage of being local (for those in the US) and being very prompt in shipping.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Dasher:
home key still not working

Hi

After various re-installs my home key/icon still doesn't work. I think my installs have been clean. I use "Caulkin format all" and have done data/cache/permission fix and still no go.

The strange thing is the tablet works after the first reboot but not the second.

Any insight would be great.

Thanks
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonkey:
Was wondering,

I am currently on v3.1 of this ROM and want to upgrade to v3.3. Is it safe to just flash ROM over the top of the old one? I see alot of people saying they did it with no problems.

Thanks, Sonk
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luvduchovny:
As long as you do a Dalvik cache wipe, it shouldn't be any problem skipping over to 3.3.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luvduchovny:
The thing about the hdmi cables is your mileage may vary. I have the $29 cable from electronic crap (it's too short in my opinion, but I digress). I have 3 hd tvs in my household and that cable only works on 2 of them. The one tv I want it to work on (the one in my bedroom) doesn't work. But the huge tv in my living room is works fine (gets a little pixelated from time to time but overall works great and hey GIGANTIC ANGRY BIRDS FTW!) :eek: And the other tv is my roommate's tv, so I need to use the one in the living room if I want to use this.

Using the dock I can use my bedroom tv although it won't play sound out of the hdmi cable, it just uses the tablet's speakers. I'm seriously contemplating buying a new tv for my bedroom.

So basically it depends on the tv.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strra:
maybe i missed something, but why is the development thread locked? i know they're doing "reorganizing", but can the OP still be edited with updates if the thread is locked?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekrhino:
It's locked because the Mods are enabling a new strategy to get users to post in the correct forums. Dev threads are being bombarded...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
a1.6.2?

Is there any user here still using a1.6.2? The total download of a1.6.2 is 3536 right now in mediafire (The total download of this rom should be much higher since there are a few minor download sites exist and I could not get a count for those minor sites.) and this number keep growing quite fast each day. It is around 1000 when we release b2.0. So, I think there might be a site I am not aware of that is quite popular which minor this Rom but do not have up to date info of this Rom. If anyone know that site, please spread the word -- the latest version of gtabcomb is b3.3 and is much better than a1.6.2. Just want to make sure that all the gtabcomb users could get the best experience from this rom.

Or a lot of users just disagree with me and think a1.6.2 is really the best?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekrhino:
I've never used a1.6.2 I'm on 3.3 and I believe I put up a mirror for 3.3 because the dev-host.org site was only spitting out 10.04kb zip files for a lot of users.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
try 2048/0 format in cwm and reinstall the rom
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raywaldo:
HDMI Cable

I got my cable from Steve. It did work previously, but the QUALITY is so poor, it is possible that it has failed and that is why it is no longer working on my GTab. I found the GTab connector to be really flakey.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerdog:
If the OP is a Recognized Developer then he can edit his locked post. If he's not, he needs to apply.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dony71:
Zhyong,

I notice WLAN always enable by default. I want to save some more juice and set WLAN disable if no display. However I notice my gtab will be death on sleep with this setting. Have you experience the same?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashort79:
Thanks zyhong. I did, I tried it 3 different times! Maybe I am getting confused here, when you go to mount/unmount which is it supposed to be when installing a rom?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
3 different times is defintely not necessary. And actually you should not need to care about mount/unmount when installing. Maybe this video could be a little help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbikAdqKys
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
You are greedy! The battery life is already quite good. I guess you guys never satisfy with anything LOL

Anyway, I have never set this and I just tried it when I saw you post and so far no problem. However, it seems SOD issue is a random issue in gtablet and different device get different result. By the way, in a lot of situation SOD issue is fake issue. It depends a lot on how you click on the button and how long you wait before you click it again or long pressed to reboot. I have experienced some SOD when I just got this device with some other roms, but I have never experienced it again on any rom after I know how to "click" the button well.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
I apply as soon as I got your PM but never get any reply. But this does give me a good excuse NOT to think about updating this rom and thus increase the quality of my personal life:)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerdog:
It is a process - coordinate with me to unlock your thread for an update and then we'll go from there.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dony71:
unsatisfied will push technology getting better, right? LOL

anyway, let me try couple times pushing power button 1 second and wait 5 seconds for the display to show.

thank's for your support.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
Actually I just got a SOD after I saw your post and try to wake up my device, and this is the first SOD I have ever encountered for a long time. It seems "setting wifi to never sleep" is really necessary to avoid SOD issue. it pays to be not greedy LOL i will dig a little deeper on this.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekrhino:
SOD?

All it takes to wake up the gtab from a long sleep is ONE GOOD PUSH (about one full second) of the power button and a little patience for the device to wake up!

Pushing the button again immediately after the initial press (because you want immediate results) will only set it to sleep again quickly. I've never had SOD because I know it only takes one good push and wait a few second for the device to wake on its own. Pressing and holding the power down for longer (4-5 secs) will only shut down the device..

I'm on 3.3BL1.2 and my device is set to turn wifi off when screen is off. It will still wake with one good push.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johny.mnemonic:
With all the respect to you and with huge thanks for this great ROM, I must disagree.

Now I tried to do the same on my Desire HD and it was working fine. I had to open lot of tabs in the browser or spend a long time browsing until QuickOffice is killed by OS. (at this point I should pin point DHD has 768MB RAM)

So I tried it on GTab and I was not able to do a single app switch between those big apps, without close of the second app.

But than I thought, GTab is running for few days without reboot, I will try to reboot it and see. And so far I can switch between apps fine.

This convinces me, that it has really something to do with free memory size.

Now, just after reboot, I can have both these memory hungry apps open and when I switch to home screen, all my widgets are loaded there.

When I do this after some use, usually also all widgets are loading again, because they were all killed by OS/garbage collector to free some memory.

I will definitely observe it and let you know. Maybe this is the reason why all tablets released with HC have 1GB of RAM...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
As your own test shows, this is an application problem: Apps, generally, should not assume that that're the only ones running, or that they'll always have all the free RAM for themselves. They have to be written under the assumption that they can be killed by the system at any time. Which means that they have to save their state (for a browser this would be: no. of tabs, url in each tab, position in page, mode of each tab (normal, incognito), cookies, form data, ...) either periodically, or when they lose focus, or when they are signalled to die.

As I mentioned before, the stock browser on CM7.0.3 would not keep all state, so if it was killed by the system, and then resurrected, it would load the pages correctly, but lose the incognito mode on all the tabs. The stock browser in GtabComb beta 3.3 does a better job. It comes back up with the correct modes on each of the tabs which had them.

You really ought to file this as a bug with the Opera and QuickOffice people.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johny.mnemonic:
Thanks, this really make sense.

But it also means for me, that Android OS really sucks :-) Imagine what would happen if Win or Lin start doing something like this. Yeah, I know, this is not proper PC OS, it is crippled for phones. And I understand that in old times with few memory it was the only approach to handle all apps. But on tablets, it should be set to be lot less aggressive than on phones.

I can confirm, what Zyhong says about aggressiveness in sleep mode and I could live with that, but at least when device is awake, it shouldn't kill my last five apps until it desperately needs to free some memory.

For example when I switch from Total Commander to browser and switch back immediately, I often see TC starting again...and I am sure TC is not resource hungry app, so no reason to kill it immediately after it loose focus.

So yes, you are absolutely right, some apps can handle being killed and some like Opera can't. But that is not my issue.

Real issue is, that even if Opera recovers correctly from being killed, my https sessions would still not be restored because of security reasons and I will need to login again...

If there is any way to make this killing of opened apps less aggressive I would like to try it. Or should I start using some task killer to kill all apps that pretend to be doing something (so not killed by OS) and eating memory for apps I really use?

I would gladly welcome any advice or dirty tricks I can try to fool OS not to kill my recent apps and only kill old ones.

Edit: I think there should be a parameter of how much free memory OS tries to maintain and when it falls below that threshold, it starts killing apps. On DHD it seems it is set somewhere around 130MB and on GTab I guess 110MB, but I will need to observe it a bit longer. So if we can edit this, I would like to try to play with it to see how it affects general usage.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
These are parameters that used to control how the process are killed in init.rc. you should be able to overwrite them in the /system/build.prop if you want to play with them.

# Define the oom_adj values for the classes of processes that can be

# killed by the kernel. These are used in ActivityManagerService.

setprop ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ 0

setprop ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ 1

setprop ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ 2

setprop ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ 3

setprop ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ 4

setprop ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ 5

setprop ro.HOME_APP_ADJ 6

setprop ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ 7

setprop ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ 15

# Define the memory thresholds at which the above process classes will

# be killed. These numbers are in pages (4k).

# These are currently tuned for tablets with approx 1GB RAM.

setprop ro.FOREGROUND_APP_MEM 20480

setprop ro.VISIBLE_APP_MEM 25600

setprop ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_MEM 20480

setprop ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_MEM 16384

setprop ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_MEM 20480

setprop ro.BACKUP_APP_MEM 16384

setprop ro.HOME_APP_MEM 32768

setprop ro.HIDDEN_APP_MEM 20480

setprop ro.EMPTY_APP_MEM 25600
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nick101181:
Hi All,

I had vegan before and restored to factory firmware. I did a complete wipe/restore. I installed gtacomb bl1.1 but I'm having some problems. Booting up takes anywhere from 1-3 mins. It seems really sluggish. I also have a problem where the screen times out and turns the device off after less than 5 mins of use. It seems like a really nice rom and I'd love to get it running full speed, any suggestions?

Thanks
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekrhino:
Its a beta, its going to be buggy. 1-3 minutes boot time is decent for this rom.

Settings/screen/timeout for keeping device awake longer.

Settings/Wifi/wireless settings/wifi disconnect policy/never/ to prevent the device from sleep of death.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SasQuatch1094:
I had to use Puffin to get hulu on my gtab. I haven't figured out how to get it full screen yet. When I try the screen goes black, but the audio continues to play.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
Try getting rid of swap and forcing a smaller amount of RAM (pass mem=512M as a kernel command line for Linux) on your PC and you'll see how badly those desktop OSes do compared to Android. I guarantee you, you'll have an almost totally unusable PC (unless you use mostly command line stuff). This is one case where Android shines.

The one thing that I don't like about Android is that it doesn't give me a real Close/Exit App button, but, I understand that this is a personal/philosophical choice. Google doesn't want you to worry about closing an app after use. Me, being an old Unix systems programmer, would rather that the choice be left up to me, but, Google might, in fact, have made the right choice here--think about the long run: systems with multi-gigabyte RAMs and no split between virtual memory (VM) and filesystem (FS) (ie. the VM is the FS--the dream of OS designers since the 80s, at least).

Oh, I agree, and Google has provided knobs that you can tweak for this, as Zyhong has just posted. There are even scripts available which you can use to change the mem settings dynamically. Take a look at the V6 SuperCharger script, for example.

This, again, looks like an application failure. The stock browser in beta 3.3 will restore https sessions correctly after it's been restarted. I just checked by logging in to my gmail.com account. As long as the tab was not an incognito one, the browser restored everything correctly--after sleep and also after a app resurrection.

Nice--I didn't know you could override them using /system/build.prop. All this while, I've been halving those values in /init.rc using a custom CWM zip file.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweak41:
Does this ROM (or perhaps it's a kernel thing) support USB Host? I know it's standard in 3.1, but perhaps the APIs are available in earlier versions of honeycomb too.

The reason I ask is because there's a cool DSLR remote app I'd like to be able to use: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202082

Big thanks on the work with this ROM. It's BLAZING fast.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billsan101:
Am i the only person on bl1.2 running this rom, from either 3.1 to 3.3 that cannot access their microSD card (external memory) via computer when the gtab is linked via usb?

I find that hard to beleive, yet i cannot find any solutions.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustinw82:
I've noticed too. At least is problems with external and not internal. I just take the card out and pop it in the PC.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raywaldo:
USB to external SD Card

I just don't sweat it. I can pull the card and insert it directly in my laptop - which is much faster access.

Here is something that I found on the web: "Honeycomb uses Microsoft MTP protocol to connect tablets with Mac and Linux computers. You can view your device as a hard disk by using File Transfer Utility for Mac and Android SDK for Linux computers."

Could this be your problem? You did not state if you use Win, Mac or Lin. I use Ubuntu/Linux and the direct access to internal is great without any other utility.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raywaldo:
USB Host

The HOST works. But there may not be a driver for the device that you try to plug in.

I use my USB keyboard all the time. Some USB stuff apparently works while others may not (don't have drivers).
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doug3673:
I've been using this rom for about a week, and I will say that while it is not as stable as the vegan-tab 5.1.1 I was running before, it is stable enough to use as a daily driver provided you know its quirks.

For example... I have discovered you're stuck using the stock honeycomb launcher if you have any scrollable widgets. I installed VTL Launcher first since its the only 3rd party launcher I know of made for tablets, and while it installs and runs fine, as soon as you use a scrollable widget the whole OS locks up. No force closing... the whole tablet is frozen and unresponsive, forcing you to hold the power button and do a hard reset. Then when it boots back up it loses my gmail account settings and I have to set it up again.

Other than that... this rom runs great!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billsan101:
Your reply is appreciated.Yea i can pull the card as well, but having my gtab in a case makes it a bit more of a task.

I'm using Win Vista x64 btw. It used to work when i had CM7 installed, where i can view both the internal/external storage on my gtab when it was connected to my pc via usb. But as you've stated, might be a honeycomb thing, but weird how the functionality seems to be lost.. or just not yet activated o_0
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johny.mnemonic:
Thanks for great tip, but it looks like placing this lines into /system/build.prop is not working.

I tried to place these into /system/build.prop (offcource with different values) and after reboot system was still using values from init.rc.

But I followed rajeevvp tips and that way works.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johny.mnemonic:
Yeah I can imagine :-)

But on the other hand, I remeber running Win XP with 64MB of RAM on my old Duron 650 and it was not that bad. But then off course I had swap active...

I followed your tip to try V6 SuperCharger script, and it looks very promising, but we will see with some real world usage.

Just for anyone interested, default autokill memory size in HC (tuned for 1GB RAM obviously) is 4-10 times higher than in Froyo or Ginger.

For example foreground apps in Froyo are killed when free mem falls as low as 6MB, but in HC they are killed at 80MB of free mem. That's huge difference.

I will report in few days how it performs with those values and optimisations from V6 SuperCharger script.

I am afraid that it looks like you can't. You should stay with your modified init.rc.

I had tried what zyhong proposed with no success. But maybe the error was between the chair and touch screen ;-)

How is it working with halved values? This was also the first thing I wanted to do, but as I wrote above, values from build.prop were not applied for me.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoyitzpnoiboi:
external sd access thru pc

Originally Posted by billsan101

Am i the only person on bl1.2 running this rom, from either 3.1 to 3.3 that cannot access their microSD card (external memory) via computer when the gtab is linked via usb?

I find that hard to beleive, yet i cannot find any solutions.

I just don't sweat it. I can pull the card and insert it directly in my laptop - which is much faster access.

Here is something that I found on the web: "Honeycomb uses Microsoft MTP protocol to connect tablets with Mac and Linux computers. You can view your device as a hard disk by using File Transfer Utility for Mac and Android SDK for Linux computers."

Could this be your problem? You did not state if you use Win, Mac or Lin. I use Ubuntu/Linux and the direct access to internal is great without any other utility.

have you tried dual mount sd from market??? i used to have this issue but its a widget that allows both sd internal and external to mount simutaneously
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyhong:
do you change the syntax for setting those properties? the syntax for setting property in init.rc and build.prop. i might be wrong, but from my understanding of android booting sequence, most properties in init.rc should be overridable in build.prop since it is processed after init.rc
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lostpilot28:
This ROM is fantastic...thanks to Zyhong! I'm definitely keeping this as my new daily driver.

I've found only one problem, and it's a bit annoying, so I hope someone can help. After I loaded this ROM 2 weeks ago (BL1.1), I've had this happen 3 times so far. I'll boot up the G-Tab, and it goes into the "initial setup" screen, where you have to type in your Gmail account, etc. It doesn't allow you to just hit the Home button and skip it, so I have to go through the whole thing. Even though I've done it, occasionally it seems to forget, and it makes me do it again. All of my settings are there (wallpaper, icons, apps, etc), except for my Gmail account. Any ideas??

Thanks!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johny.mnemonic:
Sorry, I don't know anything about build.prop syntax.

I did just simple copy/paste of those lines from init.rc to build.prop and changed values.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raywaldo:
WEIRD reset

If you do a full wipe, flash the rom again and do not use any backups / restore, you should be fine.

You will lose all settings but when you sign in to the market, it should restore your paid apps.

While you are going this far, I suggest switching to the 1.2bl branch. My easy guide is at http://raywaldo.com/2011/01/nvflash-for-dummies/
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schettj:
With the new improved forum scheme it's not clear what, if any, new development is happening on this rom... it's been pretty stable for a few weeks now, is anything new coming down the pipeline, or are we "done" with changes to this rom?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lucas0511:
+1, same unexpected partial reset happened to me for the 1st time today, but I am on BL 1.2 and of course fully wiped before install.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByTor201:
Just out of curiosity, is this ROM compatible with the newer CWM referenced in this post? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16404809&postcount=1