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[HTC Sensation] earlgrey_44:
Adventures in Radioland

My Elegancia install has been running since the beginning of last week. I had gotten up and running through the HTC Dev unlock, and eventually achieved S off and super CID, and replaced the bootloader.

My attention then turned to radios. Although I had no trouble with call quality, my bars had consistently been weak since I got the new (used) Sensation so there seemed to be room for improvement.

I tried the 69A, the 72, and the 76 radios - all showed no improvement or worse. These installs included the matching RILs and associated edited DisH entries.

In fact, after four or five switchouts, call performance became so choppy that just making a call became a problem. A fresh ROM reinstall made no difference.

I remembered the line in the OP: "Another possible fix for poor data speeds is to call t-mobile and see if they have your phone in their database, and make sure on their database it shows that you have a sensation and they have the right data package going for you."

I called TMO and they did the "network reboot" trick for me, I rebooted the phone, and I then had double to triple the bar strength that I had ever seen with the phone since I first turned it on regardless of software changes. I reflashed the firmware to go to the latest radio, and I'm now seeing a consistent strong signal. I have yet to test data capability due to limitations in my current plan.

So what did I learn about the different radios? Not much. What did the TMO network reset do for me exactly? I don't know, but it sure helped a whole lot.

I wonder if anyone has any technical insight here to help enlighten us on this point?

My advice is, make sure TMOUS has your phone ID straight when you change handsets using the private market and not their in-house handset upgrade paths, and do that before you start playing around with new software installs.
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
The Dish file change nothing,

I really don't know how to fix this

Moreover when I do *#*#4636#*#* I so that the strength signal isn't to 0

I am lost :crying::crying::crying:
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Try to see if you can get the SIM replaced then from a local cell store.
[HTC Sensation] Kohr-Ah:
Wife had same issue (Literally SIM died in the middle of the day).

Nice thing is if you are on TMOUS you can login to My-Tmobile and program a new SIM in yourself if you have a spare one :D
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
But it isn't the sim, as I already test with 3 different sims

moreover my sims is working on my other phone
[HTC Sensation] Kohr-Ah:
Did you check to see if the prongs on your phone are bent and not touching the metal contact on your case?
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
I just checked

Everything seems ok

And as I still have the data, I really think that isn't come from the sims card or the sims connector
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
So, it seems that the phone is working perfectly on vadofone network...

So it should be locked, but it's wird that I can have the data on O2 network

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I tried the second methode of this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1232107 but it isn't work

furthermore , I can't test the other methode as they don't ask me for the code
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
That is odd, do you have a Vodaphone or O2 SIM? Or have you tried both?
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
I.trie with the both network

It.isn't.working.with o2 but it work well with Vodafone

Also it isn't working.with orange
[HTC Sensation] ganeshp:
Caelen for ppl on 1.27 hboot.. You need to do sim unlock differently.. Chk the same thread last Page.. Kgs1992 mentioned steps there

But Ohh.. How did I forgot about sim unlock facepalm.jpg

Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I thought he did the sim unlock but maybe I misread. :(
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
The phone should be unlock

So I did with the new method, but I still have the same problem

Moreover the fact that I have the data on o2 network is quit strange

So I don't know what can I do more , if you have any more idea ?

I was thinking of doing a simlock with my Vodafone card and.unlock it after but I have cid file fail when I trie.

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What is the "config.dat"? Could the problem come from this file ?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Where is this 'config.dat' file located? It doesn't sound familiar with regards to radios or RILs that I have heard of before.
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
I don't really know, I rode this on on a forum

But it don't seems to be that

No so I really don't get what going on, as the phone is Unlock, I bougth it Unlock so ...
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
So I may be find where the problem came from. My iemi number gives by the phone and the one behind the battery isn t the same. Is that normal ?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I don't believe so, but I am surprised it would work like that.
[HTC Sensation] Caelen:
The network provider don t use this number to log you on the network ?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I think it is used for that, but it also could be using the IMSI code on the SIM to logon. I think the IMEI is burned onto the main board. After thinking more I bet the sticker is wrong if it shows a different number than you see under Settings, About Phone, Identity, although if you bought the phone from someone else then I guess it is theoretically possible that they used a JTAG or something to change the IMEI. Very Unlikely though.

Update: I noticed you posted another thread about your IMEI changing due to a bad flash. If that is the case I am sorry to hear that. Unfortunately due to the certainty of abuse by some people, IMEI discussions of that nature are not allowed here. If you can find a local place with a JTAG, then I believe it might be fixable. Or you could send it back to the factory but they will charge you, maybe more than the local guys, maybe less. Good luck, hopefully you can get it worked out.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
When you flash a smartphone to a different carrier it has nothing to do with the radio,ruu does it?I trying to figure out how to flash a phone.Is this the wrong area for this qwestion buddy.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Are you trying to switch from TMO to ATT or vice-versa?
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
Yeah!!! Just to see if I could possibly get better signal,better down&uploading speeds.my sensation is already unlocked.If I put a at&t sim card in my sensation could you recommend some pg58img.zip with radios,ruu that I could install to see if I could get a decent 3G signal using at&t. Thanks!!!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
The latest 11.76A radio and 4.0.0037 RIL from the second post should work fine, and then look at the last few posts on this page and the first post on the next page immediately after that has the ATT modem files.
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
Thank you very much!!!
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
Did you flashed the 850/1900 modems from the Canadian sensation already. I want to know how it went
[HTC Sensation] Mesaman2012:
I'm using a u.s.a. sensation 4G.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
The original source for the ATT modems was a user in Boston.
[HTC Sensation] purplevike:
DisH 2 or 3?

Hey mf2112, firstly I want to thank you again for all of your invaluable assistance with the whole radio thing. This thread has been very helpful. Secondly, and off-topic, isn't it about time for a new profile pic? Perhaps Permanent Waves? (Been an avid Rush fan for years!) BTW, they're in Vegas on 11/23.:cool:

Getting to my point. The rcdata,img included with the PG58IMG for 3.33 uploaded by Kohr-Ah is set for DisH2. ARHD 6.6.7 has build.prop DisH values set to 3.

Questions:

1. Will applying the DisH3 update cause problems with the 3.33 FW update?

2. I can change the build.prop to reflect DisH2, but how to make 3.33 FW coincide with DisH3?

Lastly, I want to say that I've found RIL 4.0.0024 to provide a much more stable data connection than 4.0.0037 in my area. This is when used with 11.76A. Travelers to the Rocky Mountain region of the U.S. may find this useful.

Thanks again for all of the help.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Cool, I am glad it was helpful, feedback it most appreciated. I already have my ticket for the 11/23 show. :D This is actually my second avatar, I used to have the cover of 2112 but I changed it when someone mentioned having an issue with it. I will probably change it again at some point, but that 80x80 pixel size can make some pictures not intelligible so it took a while to find one that would work.

You can flash any of the TMO DisH files separately from the firmware. They all seem to work fine with the 3.33 firmware, but the DisH3 file gives me slightly better data transfer speeds.

I guess I need to rework the third post to make it more clear. If you flash the DisH3 file, then make sure build.prop has these entries:

ro.ril.hsxpa=3

ro.ril.radio.svn=1

If you flash the newer DisH2 file, then set these entries in build.prop

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.radio.svn=2

Reboot to make the change effective. The system will create a build.prop.bak file and then delete it automatically after the next reboot.
[HTC Sensation] purplevike:
Thanks again. I'll give the DisH3 change a try.

2112 was arguably the best of all. My personal favorite in fact. Can't stand whiners...
[HTC Sensation] Spr33y:
It was shipped from Canada though :cowboy:
[HTC Sensation] Farhook:
RADIO doesn't update

hi,

i did every thing in first post for updating radio but after update nothing happen and my radio didn't updated,please help me to update my radio.

these are my phone statues:

HBOOT-1.27.1100

RADIO-11.24A.3504.31_M

OpenADSP-v05.6.0.2226.00.0418
[HTC Sensation] emanon:
RADIO-11.24A.3504.31_M is the latest radio. Which radio are you trying to update?

\Regards,
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
There are two methods in the first post for updating the radio, which one did you try?
[HTC Sensation] Farhook:
sorry my friends,

i didn't notice the full name of radio,i noticed only first part of the radio name "Radio_11.76A.3504.00P_11.24A.3504.31_M" not this:"Radio_11.76A.3504.00P_11.24A.3504.31_M"

thanks for your kinds.:o
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
Hello! I have HTC Sensation 4G by T-Mobile from US (unlocked) and I have trouble. My device no find 3G and working in 2G. If I change in settings WCDMA only - my device not see mobile network.

Before rom updade I change CID to Russia and MID to Sensation.

Rom in my device: RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.6_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_266171_signed

Radio and RIL in image:

P.s. sorry fom my bad English, I Belarus :)
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Hello, welcome to the Sensation. If you don't get WCDMA at all, there are a couple things I have seen that might help. One possible fix for poor data speeds is to call your carrier and see if they have your phone in their database, and make sure on their database it shows that you have a sensation and they have the right data package going for you. Also make sure your Sim card isn't old, which any T-mobile store will exchange as far as I can tell for free. When I went to the TMO store in the mall having connection issues, they replaced my SIM with the "latest model" from what the guy said and even copied my contacts for free. I don't know if other carriers will do that as well, but replacing the SIM may help.

If you get no signal at all, first try putting the cover back on. :D It definitely won't get good or any signal.

Second, dial *#*#4636#*#* and wait a second. It should go to the diag menu and you will see a Phone Info button there to tap. Under that is some more options, including a drop-down menu for Preferred Network Type. You may be on the wrong network type. For TMO, I would make I was on one of the WCDMA or GSM choices. Make sure you aren't set to EVDO or something that won't work.
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
I live in Belarus and here not T-Mobile :) Sim card status ok - in my old HTC Touch Diamond 2 3G working.

In *#*#4636#*#* I choice each band and I see no changes :( Maybe probably problem with combination my rom and ril and radio?...

I read this topic http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1675288&highlight=3g . Maybe I want change RIL and Rom?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
It is possible that some combinations of firmware, radio, and RIL may not work so yes, I would agree with your idea to try changing the RIL and if necessary the ROM. Try a different RIL first as that is easier than flashing a new ROM and having to reconfigure everything.
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
Ok, I'll try doing this. P.s. my device was bricked. Maybe incorrectly restore it, what 3G was not working,

If someone offers another idea - write here. Thank's :)
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
So... I install all RIL's from this topic. I have radio 1.72.3504...etc. And in radio settings *#*#4636#*#* I choice WCDMA only - result: my device connect to HSDPA, but after ~30 sec. - "No signal"...

Maybe I need flash DisH (my device Sensation 4G T-Mobile)? Or no? What would you recommend?

(now MID - Sensation MID; CID - Russian CID)
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
If your carrier is not T-Mobile then I would not advise flashing those. Who is your carrier?
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
My carrier is MTS in Belarus. Maybe DisH responsible for the work of wireless 3G (WCDMA) interface?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
The DisH files seem to apply some radio parameters which may be carrier specific. I looked on the available Sensation RUU's but MTS is not listed there, so I don't know if they ever had their own DisH file.

Maybe the general EU DiSH file would help? Check here.
[HTC Sensation] gsmyth:
Hi there,

I have radio number 11.69, on 3.32 firmware, running virtuous inquisition. One issue i have is with Bluetooth audio playback, eg listening to music over bt with a home theatre system. It's not a major problem as everything else works so well. It used to work great using my Desire, but the audio is choppy and cuts in and out which is still disappointing as it worked flawlessly previously. Could anyone recommend a radio or had a similar problem? It may be just a case of trial and error with different versions but thought i would check first.

Thanks

G
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
just a quick question regarding ril's, since we're on the subject... is the ril a file? like.. can i copy and paste it into a another rom that doesn't have a working one, (assuming its that they're both on the same android version). just wondering, cuz i wanted to try it out for something, and see if it works, cuz it could be awesome =p thx in advance!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
There are actually three RIL files contained within the zip files. Two are libraries and one is a daemon. You could extract the files and copy/paste them, or easier, just flash the zip through recovery and the files will be placed into the appropriate folders.
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
Hello. How and I says, I have problem - no 3G. Tommorow and today I update ROM in my Sensation 4G to RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_TMOUS_3.32.531.14_Radio_11.69A.3504.00U_11.23.3504.07_M2_release_256085_signed (back to standart) - and I have no result - no 3G. After that I install all versions radio - no effect... After that I install ROM by VenomS 1.0.1 - no effect... I don't, what I need doing...

P.s. I install EU DisH, but I not change build.prop - I don't understand, how this doing.

P.s.s. after disassemble the phone (when master recover device after bricked mode) - GPS not working and 3G. I remember, what he deformate coaxial cable... Maybe so my phone can not find 3G network? Maybe master incorrectly restore my device after brick?

Help me,please...
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
If you installed the RUU to get back to stock and it still doesn't work, then I would suspect a hardware issue. If you have checked the little gold fingers on the back of the phone and they are getting good connections to the case, then it seems likely that something went wrong with the radio either when being bricked or when the master restored the device after being bricked. Do the other radios work, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS? Can you get Edge connections?
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
I can take photos "little gold fingers on the back of the phone". One connector maybe deformated. See photo.

View attachment 1233682

Yes, Bluetooth, WiFi and EDGE connection worked, I can call from this phone. GPS don't work...

I know other users with HTC Sensation 4G on forum, they says, what 3G in Belarus on theys devices (on Sensation 4G) works.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Hmm.. OK, cuz I have a Thunderbolt and I wanna move the ril from 1 rom to another. Which folders are the files located in so I can move them, or is it different for every device?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Hmm, I haven't looked at the Thunderbolt but as far as I know each device is different. The three files are

/system/bin/rild

/system/lib/libril.so

/system/lib/libhtc_ril.so
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Most of them look fine, just the one was slightly misaligned but looked like it still might be able to make a connection to the back cover. You might try cleaning them with an alcohol swab, and if that doesn't help then you might try bending them out VERY GENTLY using a toothpick or something.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Sorry for posting so much, but my final question.... I found the first 2 files, but can't find the last one( libhtc_ril.so) I saw libhtc_acoustic.so.. but that doesn't help probably.. the only reason i could think of is that the rom with the working ril doesn't have data, cuz the thunderbolt's ril is apparently like next to impossible to figure out how 2 fix if its broken, so ya.. should I just try it without the last file? Idk of the whole thing won't work without it or something.
[HTC Sensation] Tej17:
I tried to select the settings "only 3G" and immediately pulled the cover tight - there was a signal 3G, but it got lost. This occurs in 1 out of 15 or 20 cases ...

I try bending them out very gently using a toothpick, but I not try cleaning them with an alcohol swab (I using this device two weeks).

And can it be replaced with the contacts on the board? Can they damaged? I'm going to include your phone to another master (with experience) in another city that does it all carefully.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I hate to say I don't know, but.....I don't know. I will take a look at the Thunderbolt files when I get home in a couple hours and see if I can spot the necessary files. I know the Sensation needs all three, but I have never even looked at the Thunderbolt phone or files. I will check it out though and post back anything I can find.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Awesome, and thx 4 ur help =p
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Which ROM are you looking at over there? I see Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, and JB ROMs all on the first page of the Thunderbolt dev forum.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Jb? I didn't even kno there was a jb rom out, but anyway... its an ics rom.. liquid's ics v1.5, and I wanna move the ril to twisted's ics rom, cuz its a bit more stable, but idk if it'll work or not
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
After doing a bit more research, I understand the problem now. You guys don't have the ICS RIL source code from HTC, or possibly Qualcomm. The good news is that it looks like it should be released in a few weeks at most.. It looks like the devs are including the rild daemon component and the generic library component for now since that is all there is available for now, its that third component that you need.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
so I can't use liquids ril that only has calling and texting and move it to twisted's rom?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
You can move the two files that are available, sure.

/system/bin/rild

/system/lib/libril.so

You just have to copy them over, then set the permissions the same as the existing files, probably rwx r-x r-x and then reboot.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
alright, i moved the 2 files onto twisted's rom, and changed the permissions, but it still doesnt work... am i doing something wrong? sry if im being like rly annoying right now... but if i can figure this out, then i can take all the ics roms for the tbolt and just move the ril onto it and give it 2 everyone (not taking any credit for it of course tho)
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
No worries, you are not annoying, I know just how hard we try here to find stuff like this and get it working, but you should actually have the real deal for ICS within a few weeks so don't waste too much time :). I just don't know how the Thunderbolt works as compared to the Sensation, and it appears from some of the posts I read from Rootzwiki that the Thunderbolt was really unique among smartphones in that there is not another phone with the same hardware, so getting support on it has been very difficult.

I was looking through the rom file I downloaded from the Thunderbolt forum, not positive I got the right one as "liquid ics v1.5" didn't actually find anything I expected so I grabbed "liquid_mecha-ota-eng.v3.2.zip", but there are three other files in the /system/lib folder which may be needed since the Thunderbolt works differently that the Sensation. Try looking for them if I got the wrong ROM and copying these files as well if they are there. Check/change permissions as necessary to match the other libs in that folder.

/system/lib/libril_ims.so

/system/lib/libril-qc-1.so

/system/lib/libril-qcril-hook-oem.so
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
i couldn't find libril_ims.so in the working ril rom, but found the others including and a couple more, so i just moved all of them into the new rom and changed the permissions, but still a no go... ur probably right anyway, i should just wait the 2 weeks or so for ics to come out anyway, instead of trying to fail at this >.< thx for all the help tho, i went ahead and thanked all ur responses to my posts (like all 200 :eek:) also, idk if this matters, but the rom without the working ril had the libril_ims.so file, but the one with the working ril didn't.. but thx so much, maybe if htc moves back the release date for ics ill try again :p
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Sorry about that, I was hoping that the other files might be enough. I guess some of them are from the prior GB ROMs? We went through a similar issue with the TMO WiFi Calling app files. It took forever for TMO to get through testing the ICS release from HTC but in the meantime various devs were trying to copy some or all of the GB WiFi Calling files over to their ICS ROMs with mixed success, but really were mostly unsuccessful with regards to stability and consistency.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Ya, idk... do u want the files I have? This is the one with the working ril:http://db.tt/q8nPRx09 and this is the one I wanna move it to: http://db.tt/NZOFQbBe
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Thanks, I will check them out when I get home from work in a couple hours and let you know what I can find.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Awesome, and thx so much for answering all my questions... and gl tryin 2 figure it out, cuz I can't >.< lol
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Edit: Removed link
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
hm... it didnt work.. i did a full wipe, installed rom, then flashed ril, but still no... idk.. what i did be4 was i literally searched "ril" with root explorer from the "/" and got like 5 files, and moved all of them from liquid's rom to twisted's, then changed permissions, but it just hates me immensely or something, cuz it refuses to work... i guess it is a sign that its not meant 2 be :(
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I guess there must be some other files it is dependent on. :( Sorry, I wish it had worked. I also see that user gu1dry left you guys in the same boat with the abandoned radio thread. I was able to take it over here. but he did that to a few HTC forums.
[HTC Sensation] what be up:
Np, thx for at least trying. I can still use the liquid rom, its just a little unstable with reboots when I try to use most things with superuser, and a couple of other things. And besides, it won't be long before HTC releases ics hopefully so I can live with it for a few weeks. O and sorry for all the questions : p
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
No problem, it was an interesting challenge. I hadn't looked at other phones before so it was actually worthwhile, I picked up some potentially helpful things from taking the ROM apart and looking at the updater script. Good Luck!