yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
And, I'm pushing performance, overclocking as high as my phone can go - 1.728 ondemand with Screen Off profile using SetCPU. I've tried virtuous and configurator and they don't seem to play well with this setup. Battery life is of course in comparison to my previous build with no OC and stock kernel; battery life was and always has been superb with this ROM.

Clean install, flash, OC'd and running smooth. Excellent work guys! Only issue I'm facing is random reboots when copying files over USB.

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Yep, always do a triple format before I flash anything. So easy now with TWRP 1.1.1. Queue up those xronformat alls before all fresh installs.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Nope, svn not dead. We are about wrapped up on the adb tool. There just hasn't been too many mods hitting the streets lately to take advantage of.

So, time to invest in small tweaking now. But promised my son that I would play with him tonight more.
[HTC EVO 3D] ghost2133:
I am still getting a lot of fc and reboots, I just switched to ziggys with dual core, I'll see how that works. Thanks misfit for the dual core.
[HTC EVO 3D] PaulB007:
Download links are down? :(
[HTC EVO 3D] spurnout:
Dual Core?

I'm loving the fact that I can OC now! How do I know if it's on both cores though? SetCPU doesn't seem to have separate CPU sliders. Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
Try a fresh install - wipe and xron format all a couple of times. Use the 10/9 nightly and flash the dual core mod that MisFit posted a few posts back.

I messed around so much again yesterday that I ended up doing a fresh install and everything is smooth as butter - Including the Sound Enhancer (go figure!?!).

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I'm using System Panel Lite - menu->monitor let's you see activity of both cores in real time (though not clock speed of both cores).

Anyone else know a good tool for monitoring dual core?
[HTC EVO 3D] MiSfit211:
setcpu will actually disable the second core. I am working on a method to oc both cores using scripts. virtuous seems to work but I would like something that can be changed in terminal. I would like to set max frequency at 1512000. That seems to be the best for oc and battery. I am working on an all new set of scripts for our rom to work with dual core enabled and disabled. This is tricky cause as of right now this is the only setup i have used with dual core that has not lowered bench mark scores. So it is taking me a bit to get it just right. Right now I am able to keep my quad scores consistantly at 3200 on the scripts i have written so far. So stay tuned. :) Thanks guys.
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
Spend time with your son, he deserves it. Thanks for all your work!

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Had no idea that SetCPU didn't play nice with dual cores. I was looking at monitor when running CF bench and it looks like both cores are active?. My main complaint with it is the lag when switching profiles, I have found it to improve battery life and performance when OC'ing.

I have personally not had good luck with VOC, seems to ignore the governor and just jump CPU to highest speed when needed and there's no way to set sampling rate or up threshold. (using configurator 2.5 which I believe removed sampling rate options).

Looking forward to seeing what you're putting together! Let me know if you need a tester.
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Well, perhaps I spoke too soon...I seem to be going through battery about three times faster than usual, with the phone just sitting there (I typically don't use the phone at all during the day). I'm down to 85% battery, and it's only noon...I'm usually still at 95-96% by this time. The usual indicators (signal strength, wake time, etc.) are as usual, so those don't appear to be any factors.

Maybe the battery just needs calibrating, hmm, I'll do that..
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
maybe you should go for a bikeride, use some gps, maybe some video of wild bobcats, just sayin :P
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
This is going to be a great weekend.
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Lol, headed there now...shot some video last week of being surrounded by three bobcats, I was rolling right through them before I even knew they were there! I'll post it up when I get back tonight. :cool: Btw, this phone sure does shoot some nice HD video! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
Definitely calibrate/wipe battery stats anytime you install a new ROM. There is some type of battery calibration script in the ROM (MISFIT?).

You should also consider SetCPU or something to clock down the CPU when the screen is off, if it's off you're not really using it and with this phone 384 is enough juice to run music, my tracks, and probably more but have never tried.

I have SetCPU set at 1728/192 ondemand, with a screen off profile set to 384/192 ondemand. Advanced settings are used to tweak the way the governor (ondemand in this case) scales the CPU. I have mine set to:

Sampling Rate: 20,000

Up Threshold: 75

Ignore Nice Load: 0

Powersave Bias: 100

This scales up quickly when needed, but there is some preference (10%) towards power saving. Here's an excellent write up on SetCPU settings so you can find what works best for you: http://devphone.org/development/setcpu-for-root-users-documentation/

Also consider installing CPU spy from the market - let's you see time spent at each frequency and if phone is going into deep sleep - if not something is keeping it awake. I find this easier to read than the time spent in state option in SetCPU (also doesn't have deep sleep listed as a state).
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Here are the results of my 2-hour bike ride today, with tunes playing the whole time:

SetCPU screenshot of the various times-at-frequency taken at the start of the ride:

Screenshot of time-at-frequency at the end of the ride:

Notice that the lion's share of time during the ride was spent with the cpu loafing along at 192mhz.

Here's a couple of screenies of the battery usage during that time (we're only concerned with the last two hours of the graph):

Notice that the battery drain curve is very consistent (but heavy) during that time, and that the phone was awake the whole time (the screen was off during that time except for a few minutes at the start). Also notice that MyTracks consumed 74% of all the battery used, and the music (together with mediaserver) only consumed 14%.

Those results are perfectly normal, and typical of what I get every time I do a ride, regardless of what rom I'm using at the time.

Notice that even though the cpu was running at low frequencies, the battery would have been completely consumed in just 11 hours at that drain rate. That's because gps operation is very math-intensive, and is carried out on a separate standalone gps module on the SOC, and not on the cpu itself. Also, the audio (music) chores are handled by a separate standalone audio module. So there's no need for the cpu to ramp up to any real speed in either case. Makes me wonder why the cpu wasn't just sleeping during that time..

Anyway, the 11-hour calculated battery life is a little low (I typically get 13-14 hours calculated), but I'll check it again after calibrating the battery. The only problem is, there's always another rom update released before I have enough free time to go through the calibration process, lol. :o

Edit: Absolutely superb rom, Leo, thanks a million!
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
My son says thanks for the bobcat videos and I say thanks for that battery information. Very cool x2.:)
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
Ok ive got a Question i've never really understood it so i wanna ask? Whats the Big Deal with the Big Focus on Quad Scores?

i Understand the Speed of the phone and all that but what about Switching the Focus on having the BEST battery life!

I would love to see Battery Life Results with Different Kernels and Trying to Max out Battery Life to as much as Possible. The Quad scores are only going to be helpful for what?? Using this Rom in Day to day Use and for my Business i have not seen much Difference in Speed. Truth be told i've Encounter alot of lag even the Shut Down animation Closes Slower than it Use to.

Stereo Bluetooth Works Good but has an issue where While listening to the Music the Headset Cuts out for a very Brief time (half a Second) Now the average person might not notice it depending on the music but i focus on the Music not words and normally have it turned up high so i seem to notice it better or more.

Now don't get me Wrong battery life is good when the Rom stays stable long enough to test it. But 10 hours with light Use is not good Enough For me.

I've wiped 5x and fresh installed this rom More Times than i would like to just to flash a Rom and i'm still having Random Reboots and Freezing at boot. Wiped the SD card and Wiped the Phone and Flashed and still have the same problem as before.

I've tried to find the cause Thought it was Due to AOSP files being on the Sd card but nope that was not the cause. So now back to the Drawing Table. :(

But to my Real Question Whats With the all the Quad Scores?
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
You propose a very interesting question right now....
[HTC EVO 3D] twaitforitk:
It might be. The ziggy kernel that's causeing the reboots if your running 10/9. Switch back to stock. Mlewis posted it some pages back. I flashed the stock kernel and no random reboots or freezing. Battery life is great. Misfit is working on the dualziggy kernel. When he get through with it, I imagine it will have the battery life back as well as no random reboots.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Good points. But one thing people really don't realize about battery life in this cell phone. Stock it says 6 hours it may be good for. 10 hours is an extremely long time for what these phones do. Seriously, think about the data, screen (3D), twin came, gps, Mic, music, flashlite, WiFi, 4G, Bluetooth, dual core, lots of memory, gsensors, alarms, and so on that these phones process thru. In todays world, ask yourselves this, at what point in 10+ hours are you not around an electrical plug or usb where it can't sit for 5 minutes or so?

Just food for thought. These phones do amazing stuff in 10 hours.
[HTC EVO 3D] MiSfit211:
Man kratos those are some harsh words bro.

Man I worked my ass off getting people the speed they asked for. I spent all night trying to write scripts to improve battery life.

Anyways. Xron configurator will be out in next couple days. It will allow dual core to be turned on and off through terminal and change freq on both cores individually. I will also be throwing the sleep frequency portions of virtuous in there so you can limit battery consumption while screen is off.
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
Like I said back when you got my phone to hit 3k w/o oc, and more so now with dual core and oc- I am just going to get an extended battery and run this sucker wide open always. I love the response of this phone now.
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
I personally love the speed and knowing that I can tweak it to get more battery life is a win-win. I've tried a bunch of other ROMs and keep coming back. Smooth, speedy, all the features I want and easily customizable for more battery life or more performance whenever I want it. Great work as always and much appreciated. 10+ hours is amazing for this device.

Looking forward to the configurator!
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Yup. I've decided to get extended battery too. I can't go 32 bit on my dualcore pc, why use only one core on my phone. Misfit, ur scripts are becoming legendary and we all appreciate ur hard work for sure.
[HTC EVO 3D] THunDA:
I agree an extended is the way to go.. makes the phone bigger but you'll never complain about battery again. People always some into my job complaining about battery life and then I try to compare them to the phones that used to last days..lol its like night and day what the new phone do compared to years ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
I'm not trying to be harsh or anything I'm just saying that quad scores are good and all but from what I've been reading you can have great super high quad scores but if your network connection is horrible then they don't matter.

As for flashing the stock kernel I've been using stock and still getting reboots while using my phone for simple things I'm not saying that the tweaks are bad but there has to be something causing the problem I've check for others reporting issues similar to mine and there are quite a few all running different roms and different kernels as well.

I wouldn't even be bringing it up if my phone didn't randomly reboot while on an important call then froze at the boot screen and required a battery pull that mind you didn't fix the problem I tried flashing the rom over itself to fix the ongoing fc and that didn't work so I had to do a full wipe and reflash to get my phone working.

And yes 10 hours is not bad on battery life didn't say it was but I'm also using an extended battery to get that kinda life as well 1950mah battery.

But outta all this no-one has answered my question about why the need for such high quad scores? Not even just with this rom or phone but with all of them even stock phones?

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[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
A benchmark is necessary to know if you are making progress. I used benchmark programs to test my Phenom II X4 when I was first setting up the overclock. During normal use I can not tell the difference when the cores are clocked at stock 2.6 GHz or 3.2 GHz, and I can't tell if RAM oc and timings are right until I check the benchmarks and run stress tests.

After doing this, I still don't notice any difference while browsing the web or playing music on my pc, but I absolutely notice a huge difference when rendering video, running visualizations at high resolution, or playing games.

This is why I use benchmarks. As far as my 3D goes, when Quadrant scores are higher, I absolutely notice a difference when playing games and movies, and multitasking is noticeably smoother. I am sure that when a dev is developing it is more efficent to run a benchmark to see what changes are working.

That is my $0.02 on quad scores.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
If it matters, I know people with stock non-rooted phones getting reboots too. Some have EVO, some have 3d, and even the shift. Coincidence? Doubt it.
[HTC EVO 3D] tandxcstar1:
I had my first EVO 3D do same thing with random reboots and freezes and I too would have to pull the battery. At first I thought it was the ROM I was on and or Kernel and I spent countless hours testing and could not fig out why. I also tested the battery and it passed so only thing left was putting it back to stock. Did that... And sure enough STILL random reboots and freezes. So I just took it in and had them order me another one. Even though its refurb it runs hell of alot better then my new one. I know its not what you want to hear but you may have to get a new device..
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
Now that's not something I really don't want to do that. I've noticed people having reboots on non rooted phones as well at first I thought it was an app but with no apps had the same issues only.

I thought it might have something to do with Facebook for HTC sense since it started when I signed into that but after deleting that I still had the problem granted less than I was having but still there nontheless.

And solver thanks for explaining that about the scores.I don't use my phone for games nor do I watch movies on it so that's why I've never saw the difference in having higher scores.

But wouldn't it doesn't help when your streaming video over a slow connection

With no 4g in sight for me

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[HTC EVO 3D] R32_Rocky:
Just a slight bit of history behind benchmarks :)

Some years back during the early days of 3D video cards, there was a benchmark war between ATi and Matrox, both Canadian companies. High benchmark scores meant high sales. It was discovered that ATi had CHEATED! They had hard coded into their video card driver commands to recognize when 3D Benchmark was running, and to perform special operations that would purposely give high scores. So benchmarks are not always 100% accurate.

In regards to Quad, when was it last updated? It might even not support dual cores yet. So it is most likely not even giving an accurate account of the newer phone's performance.
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
Quadrant does not support dual core, but there are some that do - CF Bench and Linpack. But as has been said before, Quadrant is a quick way to gauge the effects of tweaks and changes you make to your ROM.
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
Noah along with a few others have stated the bench & quadrant scores where not accurate with the new gingerbread,honeycomb device's and especially not with the device's that are dual-core.

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[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Presuming that all of the above statements are correct (that no benchmark is completely accurate, that some benchmarks cheat, and that some benchmarks don't take multiple cores into consideration) solver, malicon and others are also correct in their statements that the effects of system tweaks can be easily and accurately verified by their effects on benchmark results.

Everyone is correct, whether they realized it or not! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
Quadrant may not be an accurate measure between different devices, roms, etc. But when working on tweaks within a single rom on a single phone it is a useful tool. That's all I have to say about that.:p
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Yep, that was exactly my point. I have several benchmark apps installed on my phone and use them all on occasion. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mlewis2388:
Lock Ring

Hey guys,

Just thought I'd share a new lock ring that I made. It's a pumpkin that turns into a jack o'lantern when you use the short cuts. I was just thinking of new things and figured this would be festive. I took an image I found of a pumpkin and used that for the fusion.apk images, then I made a jack o'lantern image overlaid it on the original pumpkin, and made it 50 percent transpart and put it in the Idlescreen_Base.apk.

Jack O'lantern lock ring:

http://db.tt/u0HRkPGG
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
Awesome bro, thank you. I am a big fan of Halloween, and this looks great. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Can someone please point me to a link to the stock kernel used in this rom before rev 86? The ziggy kernel just can't touch the battery life I was getting earlier.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlewis2388:
Here you go:

http://db.tt/hIaY6O1K

"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few"
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Thanks mlewis, I remember you'd posted it before but I'll be damned if I could find it!
[HTC EVO 3D] MiamiBoi:
Wad it do all!!!

My sister has an non-rooted OG Evo and using PRL 60681 anyone know where this one can be found ? and if not does her phone have to be rooted in order for me to pull it ?

I appreciate all the help my noob-ness will fade soon..

Deuces!!

EDIT:I found it, my apologies. If you want it or need it let me know
[HTC EVO 3D] rank78:
Very cool. I wanted to get into theming the lockring but what I wanted to do was more complex than I could accomplish. I had a Pacman image for the lockring, 4 colored ghosts for the shortcuts which I'm not even sure can be customized, and a wallpaper of the Pacman game. I really wish I could have gotten that editor to working.
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
Thank you Leo, Misfit, Tmartin, all of Team Xron. Thanks for all the time invested in this. ;) I just needed to say that again because this is a really great rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] twaitforitk:
So with no updates the thread seems to die. Kinda sad its a good group of people. Whenever the updates start again, hope they return.

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I'll second that
[HTC EVO 3D] MiSfit211:
Not dead at all. Just working hard.
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
I say they take just as long of a break as possible, I for one am going nowhere. I do believe there is something big right around the corner here.
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
Absolutely agree. They have created an amazing ROM, and it's surely not dead. There's just not much, if anything, that needs to be fixed.

The only issue I was having was Music Enhancer FC's (when clicking the Sound Enhancer icon or menu option in HTC Music). Do a fresh install and it will work fine. Remember to wipe first! If you still get them, wipe again and then fresh install.

My extra cautious wipe procedure for a fresh install via TWRP:

factory data reset

wipe system 2x

wipe data 2x

wipe dalvik and cache 2x

then flash:

xron format all 3x

synergy ext4 opt

rom

Nandroid restore seems to cause same issue as well, esp. when coming from another ROM. So, what I did was fresh install (with above wipe procedure), boot into system let things settle, reboot to recovery and restore data only. Anyone else feel free to weigh in on this process, as I'm not sure it's completely clean this way...
[HTC EVO 3D] twaitforitk:
I think I was mis understood. I don't mind waiting for updates and in not saying the ROM is dead or team Xron. Just that no one seems to be posting anything since there has been no updates. The comments, questions, concerns ect has died. I just hate for people to disappear just because there isn't a update. I for one can wait for updates, just hate seeing this thread on 2nd or 3 rd page. Needs to stay first. Lol

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Hey solver have you seen the preview for rum diary? I didn't even know they were turning that into a movie. It's cool that its johnny depp since he was in fear and loathing plus who plays a better drunk guy lol he already talks like one anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
I was not aware of that, just watched the trailer and I now have a plan for October 28th. I need to get the book and read it now.
[HTC EVO 3D] twaitforitk:
I was thinking the same thing on the book. Speaking of books the amazon fire looks promising for a e reader, well once its hacked lol
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
so has anyone tried out tiamat's new sense kernel on this ROM?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
gallery

Gallery for me doesn't seem to be displaying 3D pictures properly. Anyone have a fix?

Oops please ignore. I forgot I'm not running this rom right now... :(
[HTC EVO 3D] wilderckw:
I have works nice but still get reboots. What about the new remix V7 kernel? The overclock is fixed so should he good. So anyone try yet?
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
I appreciate that brotha. I am having a few reboots and trying to get to the bottom. It seems to go back to the Ziggy kernel.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Well I finally got my hands on an HP touchpad. So its been taking up a little more time than I thought. Ok, no I just like it. Already dual boot with cm7. Trying to get honeycomb but its not playing nicely.
[HTC EVO 3D] TMartin:
I say switch it up to bcnice's latest. Runs pretty nice.
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
My conclusions are the same.
[HTC EVO 3D] malicon:
Same conclusion here. But seeing as he didn't even have a 3d when he made the kernel, it was pretty sick and oh so fast.

Making the move to tiamats and will see how it goes, since I have had more reboots with bcnice than with ziggy.

Edit: Back to Ziggy, tiamat's latest broke my Wifi.
[HTC EVO 3D] ghost2133:
+1, broke mine as well, ziggys it is for now.
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
I went back to stock kernel, the battery life on that one is just too good to give up (haven't tried bcnice's yet).
[HTC EVO 3D] dogbone414:
Is there going to be an update soon?
[HTC EVO 3D] solver404:
lol... I suppose it all just depends on what the definition of soon is.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Did you really just ask that? :/
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
He's obviously not from around here...
[HTC EVO 3D] TMartin:
:p

Well Misfit is working on the Beats FC issue. We have a little deal in place so if it doesn't work out then I'll be switching the ROM over to a new base and going through each mod one by one. If we have to go Option 2 then that will take a little while.

Just an FYI for everyone.