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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
(1) I'm not sure about your RAW types statement. I'm not expert on iOS, but if you have a wireless SD card and an app that can decode RAW files, there's no Apple-related reason why that could not be done. On the other hand, if you're talking about connecting your camera to your tablet with the camera connection kit, and that the gallery app does not allow transfer and display of RAW files, then that is indeed under Apple control.

(2) Apple does allow you to connect external devices (see camera connection kit to transfer images from camera to iPad), however it does not allow third-party apps (apps not made by Apple itself) to access these devices.

Are you even aware that the latest high-end Canon EOS models already have Wi-Fi built-in ? Like the 6D and 70D ? DSLR Controller already works with these wirelessly, without any extra devices, routers, cables, etc.

In case your device does not have Wi-Fi built-in, then you can use one of the router solutions. The old one does not have a built-in battery, but power banks these can run off of are cheap and available everywhere (and ducttape). The new solution I linked to you in the last post however, actually does have a built-in battery of 2000mAh.

And if you don't want to use one of those router solutions, connecting a phone to your camera and controlling it wirelessly through your tablet as you suggest is possible as well - http://dslrcontroller.com/guide-wifi.php - use the "Wi-Fi Passthrough Mode" in DSLR Controller options.

As for lag - these externally connected solutions (either one of the router solutions or connecting your phone) are not noticably slower than using the camera's built-in Wi-Fi. In edge-cases they may actually be faster.

Control through Eye-Fi cards will never be possible (unless you make a USB cable from the card to the camera's USB port). That's just not how that technology works.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I quote the website:

EOS Utility vs Smartphone mode

These connection methods are similar, but not exactly the same. Both (usually) disable video operation, and both allow you to connect using Wi-Fi. However, EOS Utility mode requires an existing Wi-Fi network (created by a router or the Android device), while Smartphone mode allows the camera itself to create the network. Smartphone mode also allows you to change liveview resolution between low, medium and high resolutions, while EOS Utility mode always uses high resolution. High resolution is much slower, but if you depend on liveview for focussing or you are using filters, we definitely recommend using this mode. We have not seen much difference is protocol capabilities, though if one of them would be limited in any way, it is more likely to be the Smartphone variant, as EOS Utility mode is in wide use by studio professionals.

As stated, the big difference is video capabilities, aside from that everything appears to work the same. I do have some concerns about the Smartphone connection mode, that Canon may limit this at a later date. DSLR Controller, as far as I know, is the only application on any platform that even uses a lot of the capabilities. Canon's own app is much more limited. So they wouldn't hurt anyone but DSLR Controller if they changed/restricted/etc the Smartphone protocol, and I'm sure they don't really care about DSLR Controller, so ...

If you look at the EOS M, which is fully capable of everything a 650D is capable of, they simply blocked remote control in the firmware, so it's not like Canon doesn't do weird things like that.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going there. I'm already pressed for time, and even though I've written a fair part of the backend already, it is still a massive undertaking, with a much smaller potential userbase (currently) due to lack of USB. The price would have to go significantly up for the iOS version to make it worth my while. Also, I'm not a fan of devving for iOS. Objective-C is beyond awful. And there's also Canon's own app and CamRanger to compete with. So, who knows!

I will think about this.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
My mistake. iOS can read RAW files. Thanks for raising the question. There are apps like PhotoRaw that read RAW files on iOS devices. I'm still not sure how you would load a RAW file onto an iPhone or iPad. Perhaps iTunes allows it. I will need to test it.

Noted that Apple does allow their own apps to connect to USB devices but not third party apps. I will add that to my blog post.

Yes, I'm aware 6D and 70D have built in Wi-Fi, but I don't consider those top end bodies. But I'll mention that in my blog post too that there are lower end DSLR options for wifi already. When I think high end I think of 5D and 1D series bodies. Those are the only ones I would be interested in.

As for the router solution, it's still not a real wireless solution even with a battery. But battery does make it more interesting. For $40 that is worth considering for older bodies that don't have wifi built in.

Yes, I was referring to Wi-Fi Passthrough Mode in my last post and I mentioned lag because I watched a few YouTube videos on this feature which looked to have some lag. If no lag then that's great.

Also, I do understand that the reason Eye-Fi cards don't work with DSLR Controller is not because a software limitation, but that the camera can't be controlled through a memory card slot and that the camera can only be controlled through the USB port. I was simply saying if this was a workable option then that would be a much better wireless solution than routers, etc.

Meanehile, I hope you can add some of those new functions we have been discussing. Best wishes.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Right, I was not happy that they did not include the Wi-Fi feature on the 5DmkIII . It just sounded due to your wording on your blog that you thought there weren't any Canon EOS's out there that had Wi-Fi.

Oh, there's definitely some lag, and it's not nearly as fast or fluent as using USB (though it's quite usable in my opinion). My point was that the lag is not much different than using a body with Wi-Fi built-in.

Please note that I'm not trying to argue with you here, and I do appreciate all the feedback!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
Duh, I looked up Camranger and noticed is just a re-branded and TP-Link MR3040 with additional software.

If you don't see it releasable to write an IOS App you can think about teaming up with Brian of Shuttersnitch. He makes an excellent App, I bought an iPad only to be able to run Shuttersnitch, and is able to keep up with the weirdest demands and third party services and implements in very fast iterations. Your the best on the Andriod side, even better then what Samsung and Google can come up with, and he is the leader in the photographic side on IOS. You both could be then cross platform.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DangerousDave:
I always come to the party late! Just spent about 6 hours finding the right combination of things to root the CX-919 properly and then I read this :laugh: Given the price I think I will spring for the TL-MR3040. I like the idea of not having to mess with two devices ( CX-919 and battery pack ). Now I am looking for a suitable hotshoe adaptor to attach/glue to the MR3040.

BTW I should add I really like your DSLR Controller software! :good::good:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
For the last 24 hours I thought about the possibility of getting a TL-MR3040 since it has its own battery built in, but then I realized it doesn't really make much difference if I have my 7" tablet wired into my camera or one of these devices. It is still a wire into the camera, which is inconvenient. So it doesn't change much. I do like your idea though of creating a hot shoe bracket for it. But that is also a problem for me. My hotshoe is always needed for a spirit level or for my flash radio trigger or both. Anyway, it is a nice thought. Guess I will wait until Canon comes out with a full frame DSLR to go wireless tethered.

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By the way, I did a shoot today of architectural interiors with DSLR Controller. I shot off about 700 frames. Wow, it worked great just as a shutter release and controller. Saved me a lot of time. All of my shots needed to be bracketed and usually I have to change the shutter speed by hand on the camera for each shot. And this slows me down because each time I touch the camera I have to wait a second for it to stop vibrating. Also, sometimes the camera moves a bit when I change the settings, which isn't good. But this time I just changed shutter speed from the tablet each time for bracketing and the shoot went very fast. It made life much easier. Something I always wanted to be able to do is change settings for bracketing without touching the camera. Excellent!

I was curious though, is there any way to shoot with DSLR Controller using mirror lock up to reduce vibration? It didn't seem to work. I released the shutter from DSLR Controller which locked up the mirror, but then I couldn't get it to fire the shutter again to take the shot and release the mirror back down. If you shoot with live view it locks up the mirror for you which is a good solution, but sometimes I don't want to shoot with live view because it consumes more power. So if there is a way to shoot with mirror lock up using DSLR Controller that would be great.

Also, when you are looking at images on the image review screen is there someway to display the details about the photo like Shutter Speed, Aperture Setting, and ISO Setting for the photos you shot already? Sometimes I need to know what my settings were for an existing shot in order to prepare for the next shot. So it would be great if I could get this data to show in the image review screen.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I think most wireless users do so for the range, not for the convenience. The reduced latency of being wired is well worth the cable for most.

Guess it's not so terrible after all ;)

You've used the top-left button to turn off liveview before shooting, and enabled mirror lockup on the camera? That works for me, it auto-releases after 2 seconds. Which camera model were you using, which AE mode, which drive setting, etc ?

Press the bottom left button with the bargraph on it in the image review screen.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Antallion:
Xoom 601 USB issues

Thank you very much for your answer! I try it here, maybe other people run into the same issues and google can help them :)

"USB Host Diagnostics" app code: 219864

USB Host Controller: "Connected USB device" app shows:

1-1 Motorola, Incorporated Flash MDM6600

2-1 Canon Inc. Canon Digital Camer

Kind regards,

Anton
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Yeah there's something wrong with your firmware. The kernel detects the USB device, but the Android API doesn't. If you have root this can sometimes be fixed. Otherwise, try flashing a different firmware on your device.

The kernel detecting the device is a bit positive because at least we know the device's hardware is capable. There's just a software issue.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DangerousDave:
I understand and appreciate your concern re the hot shoe. I have been out shooting with a cable attached from my tablet to the camera it works really well and I am not trying to knock it but for what I do I find the cable can get a bit annoying if you are moving around. I have also inadvertently disconnected the cable from the tablet (I'm a bit clumsy). IMHO a short cable from the wireless router to the camera is a much preferable solution. Not too concerned about latency and if I can devise a slick way to mount the router to the camera or tripod which should be easy I think I'll be golden. As a side note I also need to come up with a way to hang my tablet to the tripod as well. Good to have a convenient and safe place to put the tablet when I am doing other things. :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
Yes, turned off liveview. Yes, enabled mirror lockup in the custom settings on my camera. Using the 5D Mark II. It didn't release after 2 seconds though. I only shoot fully manual. One shot drive setting.

Could you create a menu setting mode for mirror lockup which allows you to control when the shutter releases? This would then make it the same as it woks on the camera. On the camera you have to press the shutter release button twice and you don't have to wait 2 seconds. So I would prefer to just be able to press the shutter release button 2 times in DSLR Controller the same way as it works on the camera. This way you can choose how long after the mirror locks up that the shutter will release. Sometimes 2 seconds is too long, sometimes it is not long enough. Manual control of the shutter release time is better.

Cheers...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
I agree. All cables connected to the camera are annoying in fact to me. Long or short doesn't matter. Anyway, I guess you can always use a piece of gaffers tape just to stick the router temporarily onto your tripod. If I was using one I would probably just stick it in my pocket. The best reason really to even have this setup is to make the tablet wireless so that a client could be standing off to the side seeing your shots in real time. But if I am going to be the one using the tethered tablet than it doesn't really matter to me if it is a router or the tablet wired into the camera. A wire is a wire and if using the router there will be some latency as we have been discussing so better to have the tablet wired in instead of deal with the latency. I only have a 7" tablet and I normally wear cargo pants on shoots. So I just stick the tablet in my side pocket when not using it. Works well for me. Just drop the cable off the tablet when I want to move away from the camera. The only time I would suffer with the latency is if I could go fully wireless when Canon starts making full frame DSLR bodies with Wi-Fi built in. The one other bit of technology I am looking for is when there is an 8" tablet available with high resolution like the new iPad mini or the Google Nexus tablet. It is a shame that Nexus is only 7" and has such a long bezel on the sides of it. Plus you can't upgrade memory on the Nexus. It would be the perfect tablet otherwise for tethered shooting. So for now I will stick with my 7" Samsung Tab 2 tablet for tethered shooting, but looking forward to a higher resolution 8" tablet from Samsung down the road. I am sure it isn;t far away as they will want to compete with the resolution of the new iPad mini for shure.

There are already ways you can connect laptops to your tripod for tethered shooting. I am sure you can get one of these tripod mounts to use with tablet as well. Here is one setup: joemcnally.com/blog/2008/01/28/the-mcnally-tripod-rig

Sorry, I can't type in URLs. This forum is very restrictive.

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As a quick follow up to this. What most photographers do who shoot tethered to a laptop and want to mount it is buy a Manfrotto 131D Lateral Side Arm. They are around $90. Then they get a Gitzo G065 13 x 15.5-Inch Monitor Platform, which is about $85. So close to $200 for this setup. If you keep digging though I am sure you can find some sort of tablet mount with a clamp on it to connect to your tripod. There is a system called Wallee or something like that being talked about on the tethertools.com web site, but this is specifically for iPads. I think the problem with Android tablets is they are all different sized, depending on model and manufacturer. So making a standard mounting plate becomes more tricky.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
I was trying this out and I found the auto-release time a bit short and three or four seconds would be better. I was also looking at the black screen because I disabled "review". I was asking myself why not project only the last picture since start-up in the main screen when live-view and review are both not active/disabled. Give the the live-view button the colour red in this configuration to indicate that "follow shot" is active on the main screen.

It will save power in the camera and give the possibility to experienced photographers to have complete control without the higher power usage in the camera. I now it is not that simple and the review/follow shot is always been separate of the main screen for good reasons.

About "experienced photographers" it is maybe good to put specific functions like above under advanced. So standard a user has the functions available in the "settings menu" that are used by normal users and settings that require more knowledge are only activated when the user indicates that he or she is ready to use the full potential of the APP. This is maybe feasible for the 1.0 release.

This lowers the learning curve to new users and acceptance will be greater. It must be just like a Swiss knife, when you put 100 of different blades on it won't fit any more in you pocket but when you have only the necessary blades it becomes a real tool and also handy to have with you.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
The CX-919 is easy to root because you can get rooted firmwares here: http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.php/category/android-tv-stick-tv-box/cx-919/

I have now installed the CX919 – 4.2.2 – Finless ROM 1.6 and that gives also a excellent picture on a HDMI display. When you experience spontanic reboots then you have to up the power input by connection a second power source. I did not need extra power to run DSLRcontroller stable.

I advice only to occupy the hotshoe for filming because you need often to put a flash or a flash release in the when taking pictures.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
Good news on the Nexus 7 (2013) version. I just flashed Andoriod 4.4 (KitKat) and DSLRcontroller is now running on my tablet without having me changing my Language to English (United States) everytime. :victory:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
[MENTION=3124908]DangerousDave[/MENTION] - Just type the words "tablet mount tripod" into an Amazon search and you will find a number of adjustable tablet mounts for tripods in the range of US$20. You can probably attach one of these to a light stand and place it next to your camera on the tripod. As long as the light stand has a 1/4" threaded screw it should work. Or you can just buy a very inexpensive light weight consumer grade tripod to attach your tablet to so that it is mounted next to your camera.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
I have a question. When you click the button in DSLR Controller to open up the mirror on the camera and enter it into live view mode does it automatically focus the camera first? Or do you need to either do a focus lock first by pressing down the shutter half way before enabling the live view mode in the app or choose a focus point on your tablet screen and have the app focus the camera once the mirror has locked up?

My feeling is that no auto focusing occurs automatically when you press the live view button in DSLR Controller and therefore focusing needs to be carried out separately using one of the two ways I mentioned, correct?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] marcbkk:
Disregard This Post Please. Posted In Error.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 90c4:
Tapping the screen on your android device will focus on the selected autofocus point. It doesn't automatically focus.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
I finally also received the MR-3040 to test and use in the future. Speed is excellent and I think because of the better antenna than a CX-919 have.

I could hack the unit by adding a SMA connector to hook up a bigger antenna, but for now seem not to be necessary.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] creonx:
Hey Mr. Chainfire ;)

On some devices running android 4.3, DSLR Controller 0.99.3 crashes and force closed.

is there any work on it to fix this problem? i want tommorow go out to a fotowalk and i would use the app ... but now, i can refuse it :(

when can we calculate with a new version?

bombastic tool btw.! :)

greetz ...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mgw1128:
DSLR Controller with Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 and 7D

I have searched and searched. Spent hours rooting the tab and searching, but to no avail. I can't get Controller to recognize the 7D. Has anyone out there been successful using DSLR Controller with the Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 and the Canon 7D? THANKS! :confused::confused::confused:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jimzepellin:
Top banana. Great app. Have small suggestion.

Iconia A1 with a Canon 5D Mark II. Working great and congratulations on a spiffingly good app.

My suggestion is that there should be a slight frame around the image on screen to separate it from the buttons or the spaces where there are no buttons should be coloured the same as the background of the buttons and the black bar at the bottom coloured the same. I find these spaces pretty distracting and the black bar at the bottom gets confusing when there is a very dark section of the image in that area.

Apart from that at the moment I'm over the moon with the app.

Thanks.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] knelson27:
Nexus 7 Cannot Connect to Canon 60D.. Still

Hey Guys... I am still not able to get my Nexus 7 (2013) to connect to my Canon 60D and run DLSR Controller. I've held off on the more advanced fixes in hopes of an update/fix. Does anyone know if the Kitkat update will fix the problem?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
You can stop crying. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47429585&postcount=2947

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The DSLRcontroller says; "Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 - 7", 10.1" Compatibility unknown - please report back if you use this model".

Did you try first with the free APP to test it as advised in the opening post?

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Dein Galaxy Note 2 soll komplett kompatibel sein sagt die DSLRcontroller site; "Samsung Galaxy Note 2, 3, 8.0, 10.1, 10.1 (2014)

Both international as well as carrier and localized models are fully compatible". Ist diene OTG Kabel und USB kabel gut?

Your Galaxy Note 2 should be compatible according to hte DSLRcontroller site; "Samsung Galaxy Note 2, 3, 8.0, 10.1, 10.1 (2014)

Both international as well as carrier and localized models are fully compatible". Are your OTG cable and USB cable OK?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] creonx:
msatter

i have android 4.3 installed ... instead of official release of samsung. its a leak version. but still original. but it force closed :( a few seconds it works .. then force close...

my cable is okay. in 4.1.2 it was all fine :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Need a logcat from the crash to be able to find and fix the problem
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] LosFive3:
What's the best cable to get for a Canon 6D and a note 3
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KatManDEW:
Samsung Galaxy Centura

Play Store said DSLR Commander was compatible with my Samsung Galaxy Centura phone so I downloaded a OTG cable, but it does not work with my Canon 7D.

Is my Samsung Galaxy Centura not compatible?

Is DSLR Commander compatible with the Azpen Innovation A700 Tablet?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] gadgetfl:
Not sure if it is compatible, but you should understand that the Play Store's compatibility description refers to the OS on the device, not on a per device hardware compatibility. Some devices require a Y-Cable and an external power supply as their USB port does not supply enough power.

There is also a Free App by Chainfire on the Play Store that you can use to test compatibility before purchasing. All info about this in the first post of this thread.

FYI, it is called "DSLR Controller "