yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
OMG! My Klondike game has permission to view the status of all my networks!

WHY, man.. WHY!???

BTW, here's the permissions for Google+:

THIS APPLICATION HAS ACCESS TO THE FOLLOWING:

YOUR ACCOUNTS

MANAGE THE ACCOUNTS LIST

Allows an application to perform operations like adding, and removing accounts and deleting their password.

PICASA WEB ALBUMS

Allows applications to sign in to Picasa Web Albums using the account(s) stored on this phone.

USE THE AUTHENTICATION CREDENTIALS OF AN ACCOUNT

Allows an application to request authentication tokens.

YOUR LOCATION

FINE (GPS) LOCATION

Access fine location sources such as the Global Positioning System on the device, where available. Malicious applications can use this to determine where you are, and may consume additional battery power.

NETWORK COMMUNICATION

FULL INTERNET ACCESS

Allows an application to create network sockets.

YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION

READ CONTACT DATA

Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.

PHONE CALLS

READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY

Allows the application to access the phone features of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, whether a call is active, the number that call is connected to and the like.

STORAGE

MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS

Allows an application to write to the USB storage. Allows an application to write to the SD card.

SYSTEM TOOLS

PREVENT DEVICE FROM SLEEPING

Allows an application to prevent the device from going to sleep.

WRITE SYNC SETTINGS

Allows an application to modify the sync settings, such as whether sync is enabled for Contacts.

WRITE SUBSCRIBED FEEDS

Allows an application to modify your currently synced feeds. This could allow a malicious application to change your synced feeds.

YOUR ACCOUNTS

READ GOOGLE SERVICE CONFIGURATION

Allows this application to read Google service configuration data.

DISCOVER KNOWN ACCOUNTS

Allows an application to get the list of accounts known by the device.

VIEW CONFIGURED ACCOUNTS

Allows applications to see the usernames (email addresses) of the Google account(s) you have configured.

HARDWARE CONTROLS

CONTROL VIBRATOR

Allows the application to control the vibrator.

NETWORK COMMUNICATION

VIEW NETWORK STATE

Allows an application to view the state of all networks.

SYSTEM TOOLS

SET WALLPAPER

Allows the application to set the system wallpaper.

READ SYNC STATISTICS

Allows an application to read the sync stats; e.g., the history of syncs that have occurred.

READ SYNC SETTINGS

Allows an application to read the sync settings, such as whether sync is enabled for Contacts.

READ SUBSCRIBED FEEDS

Allows an application to get details about the currently synced feeds.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Disgusting? Talk of the dev situation? Huh?

First, try not making such a big stink out of everything. Second, try not taking to heart anything, and everything, that someone says that's remotely opposing of your views or is, in any way, trying to rationalize the matter at hand. You are constantly guilty of the latter. If not both.

Is it suspect? At first glance, I'd say yes. But such a blatantly direct and public move? Is it so shocking to think that maybe there is a possible reason for it? Yeah, I agree with guy saying that permissions are extremely misleading and are sometimes too much so and not broad / descriptive enough. I also see why such permissions could be shocking and 'scary.' I get that. But you are making a huge stink out of something that may or may not be malicious.

Yeah, the talk of FB before and what not - but a lot of that didn't exactly go down as it was hyped up to be. FB is suspect as it is, for multiple reasons. But to start up this fear mongering hype and then blast people who try to be reasonable and thoughtful about it, seeking out some honest reason and thought, is kind of ridiculous. Then to rage and go off on all these different tangents is a bit much. You repeatedly spoke on 'possibilities' but acted as if these were current practices.

I think that's part of the reason people are poking fun, if not actually trying to rationally approach the matter at hand. You jump on and create this thread, which is based off possibilities and 'worst case scenario' theories ... it just seems a bit 'extreme.' And someone says something and you have to take it way too seriously. You are going off theory, and theory alone. Yeah, permissions changed and it's evident ... proof that they are doing anything of the sort? If that's the case, we'll find out. Hopefully. Don't want to find out? Don't use it. Until then, don't get all up in arms over something that isn't necessarily true. Bring to the attention of the people? Yeah, I get that. I think that's important. The thread and raising of awareness to the changes is great. But then to get all 'rage faced' and make such remarks and personal attacks simply because they weren't in total agreement with you?

I get what you were trying to do, but dayum. Easy with the hype.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Thanks for proving my point.

Every one of those permissions is justifiable and explainable with app functionality.
[EVO 4G General] jacoballen22:
Thanks OP. You make interesting points. Hit browser just to thank you.

World peace with no regard for human life.
[EVO 4G General] dw3bb10:
Do you have a version of this for 1.6.4?
[EVO 4G General] xaccers:
To use the vernacular, the above post is full of Win!

Incidendly, as I said before, FB have been trialing credit purchace via carrier billing since 2009, so it would make sense to give permission to their app for those on the test to use it rather than create a second app just for those on the test. Not being on the test yourself, you won't see anything that would use those features.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
There isn't a 1.6.4

The latest market version is 1.6.3.

This will be my last thread in the in Evo subforum trying to help people out.

Honestly, its not in anyway deserved by people here.

Ill find another subforum next time.

Sad how a few people that could only be described as "trollers" ruin this forum.

Also, my posted older version has been downloaded 55 times. Which speaks louder then the few forum members that aren't here for anything but a fight.

Goodday Evo subforum.

Whole place needs a good /format
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Those are some crazy permission request

E3D
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
facebook for htc sense has those permissions too... and i think it has for like ever... plus its built in to the sense-based phones unless you rooted and removed it, which in turn killed a lot of functionality... so whether you roll back or not.. the big blue f still has its eyes on yewwww (on sense based roms of course)
[EVO 4G General] magicalsleeper:
Thanks for the FYI matty. I've been rockin 154 just cause I don't like the cosmetic changes. Now I have even more reason to stay , or better yet probably leaving fb to the desktop. Ok let's face it, no friends :( hahahaha
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
No it doesn't.

It has the ability to read email attachments, which is still ridiculous, but nothing to do with reading,editing, or sending texts/pictexts.
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
well this is what i get whenever i go into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > All > Facebook for HTC Sense running synergy rls 1
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Must be the newer versions of Sense®.

I would suggest the "permissions denied" app by Stephen (Stericson)

...unless you like the possibility of being spied on...
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
i totally stand corrected haha *facepalm* i went and apktooled HtcFacebook.apk and it actually doesnt show any permissions regarding sms or mms at all haha whoopsies! sometimes ya gotta dig a lil deeper :P

<uses-permission android:name="com.htc.socialnetwork.permission.useprovider" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WAKE_LOCK" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.AUTHENTICATE_ACCOUNTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.MANAGE_ACCOUNTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WRITE_SYNC_SETTINGS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.GET_ACCOUNTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_SYNC_SETTINGS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WRITE_SETTINGS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_CONTACTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WRITE_CONTACTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.BACKUP_DATA" />
<uses-permission android:name="com.android.email.permission.READ_ATTACHMENT" />
<uses-permission android:name="com.google.android.gm.permission.READ_GMAIL" />

thats all there is in there :P

but yeh synergy has the sense 2.1 / 3.0 hybrid mix
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Fair enough. :)
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
and heres the manifest for the facebook 1.6.2 :P

<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WAKE_LOCK" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.VIBRATE" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_CONTACTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WRITE_CONTACTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.GET_ACCOUNTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.MANAGE_ACCOUNTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.AUTHENTICATE_ACCOUNTS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_SYNC_SETTINGS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WRITE_SYNC_SETTINGS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION" />
<uses-permission android:name="com.facebook.katana.provider.ACCESS" />
<permission android:name="com.facebook.katana.provider.ACCESS" android:protectionLevel="signature" />
<permission android:name="com.facebook.katana.permission.C2D_MESSAGE" android:protectionLevel="signature" />
<uses-permission android:name="com.facebook.katana.permission.C2D_MESSAGE" />
<uses-permission android:name="com.google.android.c2dm.permission.RECEIVE" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.RECEIVE_SMS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.SEND_SMS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_SMS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.WRITE_SMS" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE" />
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE" />

hahaha good times good times :P
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You don't like me you're welcome to put me on ignore, please, but don't clutter up this thread for actual forum members that are here for the right reasons, not just to troll.

If you just want to troll there's an entire thread built around that here.

You can post stupid pictures, abuse the thanks system and apparently even dog on any forum member you want.

Enjoy.

Yeah scary isn't it?
[EVO 4G General] xaccers:
No one apart from me has actually given a possible explaination for these permissions.

So far it's been "It's Facebook it must be malicious" without any expaination as to how.

It reminds me of the old McDonalds rumour that they were adding worms to their burgers, and because it was McDonalds who are obviously evil enough to do that it must have been true.

No statement from the company would dispel the rumours, until the CEO responded at a press conference "look, beef patties are $1 per lb, nightcrawlers are $2 per lb, we'd be losing money if we did that" and it shut everyone up because the logic behind his statement was greater than the paranoia behind the rumours.

So rather than just presume the permissions are for malicious activities, how about you back it up with a logical statement as to why.
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
it does seem shady as best but i have not had any negative experiences with it thus far and its not really different than giving your credit card info to someone over the phone to pay your phone bill haha, all they would need is a pen, paper, sharp eye and a dumb supervisor and now they can go on an online shopping spree :P

but all in all, i guess if theres some creepy prick in a basement at the facebook building that waxes his carrot to the random fwd messages i get from my stepdad of some overly-boob-jobbed model only wearing 3 pieces of thread for clothing then well happy fapping :D

id just uninstall and continue using FriendCaster Pro for all my fb needs if i really thought it posed as a threat to my personal info :)

but it is good that you have brought it to our attention i dont question your observations and do appreciate it
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You again?

For the third or fourth time, and the final time, I'm going to point out that your "possible explanation" makes no sense.

It's about a fictional, possible future feature that currently does

NOT

exist and still wouldn't even explain these permissions.

Enough already. We get it.

A company that is known for selling personal data and even photos wanting to read and edit my text messages is just because they are looking out for my best interests and are adding features. :rolleyes:

Whatever.

I again point at this thread for all your [actual definition, not XDA definition] trolling needs.

I've chosen to just use the permissions denied app because, as great as friendcaster is with the push notifications [and I do have it run too for just that purpose], it's look is not very refined.
[EVO 4G General] frickinjerms:
yeh buuut sucks that they dont have push on the newest update cuz something with gmail :(

the whole sketchy permissions thing gets an extra ding in the ring too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1206314
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Wittiest Statement Award For The Day!!
[EVO 4G General] Phateless:
Those of you on cm7 can revoke the permissions you don't like. Cm settings, applications, permissions management. Then go into regular apps settings and click on the permission and the text will become strikethrough.
[EVO 4G General] xaccers:
Except they never did sell photos, or from what I can find, any other pesonal information. Sure there's lots of blogs claiming that they do, but never actually provide any evidence other than their personal interpretation of T&Cs which subsiquently get changed to clarify the matter (Dropbox ring a bell?).

The only "privacy" infringements that can actually be put against them seems to be that they changed default settings to be more open than people thought without reading up on it.

Facebook's plans for mobile billing and their credits system are somewhat better documented, perhaps because they actually have said plans?

Please do explain how SMS billing is going to work without access to SMS?

Go on, I'm all eyes, I'd love to see your justification.

Except you haven't got one, so instead you attempt insults.

Yes, you don't understand why the Facebook app requires these permissions, yes it was good that you brought it to people's attentions, but no it's not good that you're trying to stiffle any discussion on the reasons why they require those permissions simply because it knocks your "FB are malicious and up to no good" theory out of the water with a bit of logic.

If you want to continue to just bleat on that "FB am BAD" fine, that's your perogative.

Personally I'd like to use reason to explain why and use this to highlight the failings of Google's permissions information in that it is so vague it could mean anything.

Maybe you missed the "US Goverment forcing new chip to spy on phone users" thread, which turned out to be "Cell broadcast used to inform public of emergency messages - nothing sinister" after a bit of digging and reasoned thought.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dude I'm not trying to "stiffle" ANY discussion about why these permissions are here.

At all.

Although it doesn't matter because its still alarming and a problem.

Your issue is you keep peddling the same baseless claim over and over.

And now you're trying to claim that I'm trying to stifle discussion because I won't accept your baseless theory?!

Just because somebody doesn't accept some baseless BS doesn't mean they're "stifling" anything.

My bad, again I made the mistake on XDA of assuming that people weren't all just here to argue. Sorry.
[EVO 4G General] garringm:
Thanks Matty for the headsup, I shamelessly admit I am one of those fools that just clicks ok because I'm too lazy to read

It is really disheartening to see a website that I once loved and thought was the pinnacle of the WWW has turned out to be a playground for ignorant mindless children that lived very sheltered lives in between there mothers bossom.

Most mature adults I know are HELPFUL not immature such as most around here these days

I do have to give the folks over on the Samsung threads. They show a level of class that far exceeds what I have to endure over here.

Some people need to go back to the wizard, he may have given you the brain but apparently you have no idea how to use it. So please do the rest of us a favor, go back and ask for the instruction booklet
[EVO 4G General] samuel346:
Wow, the idea of respect on these forums is dead isn't it?
[EVO 4G General] github:
You must be new here.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Glad you came around.

Edit: Thank you for the find. FB is something I rarely use anyway...I think I log in to check that they didn't mess up my permissions more often than I post anything. BUT, it is good info. It may be harmless, or it may be a stepping stone to "invite friends via SMS" or worse.
[EVO 4G General] xaccers:
How is my "theory" any more baseless than yours which appears to be it's Facebook so they're up to no good despite the lack of evidence to back that up.

I put it to you that:

1. Facebook have been testing credits purchase since 2009. This is a fact.**

2. One of their documented payment options is mobile billing. This is a fact*.

3. Facebook want developers to write apps which can work on mobiles but are available only through Facebook and use in app billing for FB credits bought through FB's android app. This is a fact.**

4. In order to pay for something via SMS, access to SMS is needed. This is a fact.

*http://www.facebook.com/credits/

**http://www.mobiledia.com/news/100155.html

You'll probably point out that in the facebook app you can't purchase credits, well no, you can't, you're not part of the testing process are you?

There's no point testing something on everyone when it might not work and could potentially cost them money, so you create a pilot group, add the functionality to their accounts so it's available to them in the FB app, and let them test the technology. That way when you go public it should be with a shiny working product.

Now, if you could come up with a logical argument as to why all the above, including the facts, are BS, and FB have no actual interest in making money by selling FB credits to people who don't have paypal/debit/credit cards but do have a phone bill, I'd love to see it. I really want to hear your reasoning behind FB's app permissions being malicious because so far you've not provided one iota of evidence to back it up.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Here's your argument:

"Hey look, 2 full years ago Facebook was testing something and even though there are

no functions of the app or in Facebook itself

which indicate this is coming now and

no apparent reason or excuse

for the Facebook app to have this kind of permissions

now or ever

, it's okay because they might add a feature sooner or later possibly maybe but we don't know. "

And I'm the one getting called names by different members in this thread? :rolleyes:

Furthermore, "in app billing" does NOT require SMS/MMS permissions.

With the advent of

"in app billing"

in Android [Not just Android but also IOS and Blackberry and WebOS possibly WM7 too but not sure] there is

NO NEED

for SMS/MMS permissions or usage of any kind.

Continuing with this, if Facebook is going to add "sms/mms" purchasing that's on their on accord.

It is still not necessary for their APP to have rights to those permissions.

And just to finalize and clarify my position, because I am

done

having the same argument with you over and over, I never did state that Facebook is sitting there collecting your text messages or modifying them or whathaveyou.

I did say it is ridiculous.

I did say that it could be potentially malicious.

That's all.

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Facebook itself is a privacy breach.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/04/germany_no_to_facebook_facial_recognition/

The above two links are only the tip of the iceberg.

So would it surprise me if they were collecting text message data to sell it in some manner?

Absolutely not.

And if it would surprise you well, then god help you.

Either way, your "excuse" for these app permissions are baseless and I'm done recycling the same argument over and over with you.

Some people want this thread so they can be aware of the permissions and take the steps they feel necessary.

Thank you for respecting that hence forth.
[EVO 4G General] github:
I wonder how many times mattykinsx has said "I'm done" or "I'm not replying" or similar. I think it's about every other post now? Also that bolded text he uses is cool stuff. It's almost like caps lock, which everyone knows is cruise control for cool.

Either way, I'm done posting!!! Until I post again.

Whew!

Oops, one more

still here incase anyone wasn't %100 sure on his "position"...

could it be!?!?
[EVO 4G General] jayharper08:
Thank you for this Matty.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Matty is allergic to both facts and logic so don't bother arguing with him. I'm also pretty sure that his tin foil hat has a big Google logo on the front and a even bigger Sprint logo on the back.
[EVO 4G General] github:
Careful Award Tour, he's liable to post in this thread again if you keep that up!! :D
[EVO 4G General] AA27:
FLAME ON!!! :D:D:D
[EVO 4G General] AA27:
We really need to get this Devs or Teams to work on something for this phone, the lack of root right now is making us flame each other just for kicks! :D:D
[EVO 4G General] fergie716:
We need to let Alex Jones know about this
[EVO 4G General] the_scotsman:
F*ck me....why is it AWLAYS THE EVO FORUMS that we keep having to clear up :rolleyes:

GROW THE F*** UP!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Justinhopaolo:
how am i able to save games?? i mean progress of a game
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acerulz:
thats upon the game to decide where to save some gaves save automatically... else u cant do manually any game ..atleast i havent heard of one saving this way
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ksahrakar:
Vegan Ginger Edition

Market stopped working - force closing.

Have tried repartition fix for force closes.

Have tried market fix multiple times.

Still, if I uninstall the market updates, it will work after opening the app the second time. After a while ( closing the application and reopening), market updates to the new market by itself and same issue - force closes.

I tried uninstalling market updater - no option to do this. Force closing this app does not help either.

So, it appears the old market works, but the new does not; and I am unable to keep the market app from updating automatically.

Any takers on this one??
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aabbondanza:
I can tell you that there are serveral posts around various gTab forums dealing with the issue. Most of the users that have reported the problem are Vegan GE users. Haven't seen a solution but one user was uninstalling the update & using the app until it gets updated again & then unistalling updates, etc. Go to Settings, Applications, Downloaded applications, Market & select Uninstall updates. That should return you to the previous version (acccording to the poster). May atleast buy you some time until soometime finds a permanent solution of a new version that works for you is pushed.

Al