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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] csshih:
wow, looks like you put a lot of hard work into this app, it looks great!

I might have a go with it over winter break, I have a 5d2 and a Bionic.. otg is supposed to work so hm..

Craig

Edit: I read that you'll have some basic timelapse features, but I'm wondering if you could possibly make it more advanced. Have the program grab values from the light sensor(or even the phone camera, but I'm not sure how much power that'll take.) and change the aperture accordingly, or, just have a time based aperture adjustment? Another option is to get light levels directly from the DSLR but It oddly hasn't even been done on the computer application. not sure why.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] coolbomb:
Hi,

From the FAQ, I see that the features mentioned are on the "planned features" for the controller.

http://dslrcontroller.com/faq.php

I also would be very happy to have some of that feature, I have just got the app from the market and would test it tomorrow :)

Regards,
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] aleadam:
Just as I reported in the other thread for the test version, it works like a charm in an AT&T SGS2 running an Hellraised VillainROM 3.0 connected to a Rebel T2i. Heap size set from the start to 192m.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] knoxploration:
Depends on your definition of "make it big". The D30 cost US$3,500 at launch back in 2000, and even by the 10D's launch in 2003, the price was still US$2,000, body-only.

DSLR sales didn't really ramp up until the magic $1,000 pricepoint was broken, and that happened with the Digital Rebel, which listed for US$900 (or US$1,000 with a lens).

So yes, the first DSLR to make it "big" was indeed the Digital Rebel. The D30 and other subsequent models made it bigger than what had gone before, but they didn't sell in remotely the kind of numbers that the original Rebel did.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Apachi2k:
I too am losing the Record button once the video recording starts. I can click the shutter button to stop the video but it also takes a picture at the end.

Canon 5D MKII

Motorola Xoom WIFI
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Well if you do end up testing it on the Bionic, be sure to let us know if it worked.

Regarding your timelapse feature requests, this will be looked at, but timelapse is still a bit off in the future. I don't expect to get started on it before January.

It is so strange it works for you but not berobero. Mayhaps berobero needs to try VillainROM :)

This issue is fixed in the next update (hopefully tomorrow). It depends on the camera model, btw.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] aleadam:
@Chainfire Perhaps it is because this is an i9100 rom? I'm using Entropy512's kernel, if that's of any help.

@berobero the link to the thread with the info to set up the phone to run i9100 roms is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1335377
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Could well be. I do have another idea though... Next version mayhaps!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
v0.77 released !

DSLR Controller has been updated to v0.77:

- Swipe selectors are now relative

- Grid mode is now remembered

- Fixed disappearing video button

- Fixed >32 point AF crash

- Fixed quick review time reset

- Added basic HDR (ExpComp/EV based)

Enjoy!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] itsskin:
Great! Thank you!!! SUPERB WORK.

Please, make HDR be real feature. +-2 EV in AV mode (in which my camera was never put since purchase) is no use :) Seems to me HDR is among NO1 selling features for the app.

PM me, if I can help with testing.

Ilya
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
A more advanced HDR thing is also coming.

What device are you on that only goes to +- 2 though ? My 550D goes from -5 to +5.

Let me know the specifics you are looking for.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Wextercz:
tested out v 0.75 on my Galaxy Note with Canon 550D

http://vimeo.com/33231809
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Xkan:
I haven't read the whole thread, I just wonder if this app is compatible with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without root.

I own a 450D and Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and I don't want to modify one of these but I'm interested in the app.

Do I need a special cable or would a simple thing like this http://www.amazon.de/Wentronic-USB-Adapter-A-Buchse-auf/dp/B000Q9O81C/ do the job?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Re: 450D

It does work somewhat, but not as well as newer model cameras, be warned

Re: Galaxy Nexus

It should have worked, but Google botched up the kernel on the Nexus, so USB host is broken. They have already stated it will be fixed in an OTA soon. Until that time, you will need a custom kernel on the Nexus.

Re: Cable

You need a USB host cable...

http://search.ebay.com/i9100-usb-host[/ur]

The one I personally use cost like $1.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] itsskin:
I am on 5D Mark II

What I am looking for (and only this) is be able to set starting (or end point) for exposure time with fixed aperture with needed "step" and number of steps.

Let me explain. With camera live view, or with DSLR Controller wired to camera I determinate starting point as 1/10, iso100, f8. Then I would like go up 6 steps in 1 stop.

So it will be 1/10, 1/20, 1/40, 1/80, 1/160, 1/320, 1/640 all with iso100, f8

I want to specify number of steps, how big is the step (1/3, 1/2, 1/1) and the direction. from 1/10 UP or from 1/10 DOWN. M mode is really-really be nice to be in.

That will be the basic HDR functionality which is actually usable in the field.

I do fair amounts of HDRs, not just bla-bla-blahing here :)

Getty Portfolio

http://www.gettyimages.com/search/search.aspx?assettype=image&artist=Ilya+Terentyev

Thank you!

Ilya.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Something like this is also still coming. As I said, current is "basic" HDR for Av/Tv mode (beginner ?). What you suggest will soon be available when you select HDR function when in M mode.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] itsskin:
Great!!! Can't wait to use it. :D
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] darkshift:
Sounds good. I'm fine with centre based approach, rather than direction based. I usually try to find best overall exposure first and then shoot the rest if needed.

Is it anyhow possible to get this work with mirror lockup or live view? That would be good for eliminating mirror shake. Mirror lockup jams the app right now.

Also: it would be good to have more exif information visible in image review like exposure and ISO. And the histogram please ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Re: Mirror lockup

According to both my notes and the app, mirror lockup affects both focus and capture. However, I think I have figured it out (at least for the DryOS cams).

Either way, I think mirror lockup can be faked with live view ? That may be an all-in better solution (due to cross-cam incompatibilities).

How long should a capture wait ? On the camera you would press twice for the capture, in the app it would be automated. Should I make the time configured in options ? Is two seconds enough ? How long would you recommend, as somebody who obviously has experience with this ?

Would you want this mirror lockup emulation only in automated shots like HDR, or also for normal shots ? ( obviously only works for single shot )...

As always, any thoughts are welcome.

Re: EXIF

It's on my to-do list ... but so many things are :D

Re: histogram

I'm actually not sure how the histogram is calculated ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] darkshift:
MLU

Yes, I think liveview method should be default as the mirror stays up. Its more silent too ;) Downside is the battery consumption on the field. Maybe option for this option for this?

For HDR shooting its better to have as short delay as there can be. Objects often move in the scene... So there could user defined delay from 0 and up with 0 as default.

About histogram:

I really don't have an idea how its done in the camera. All I know that its not different for raw and JPG photos. Is it precalculated somewhere?

If one shoots with strobes, the liveview histogram is not usefull at all.

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On 5DII:

-It seems that ISO defaults to auto in Av/T and cannot be changed. Camera was not set to auto iso. Bug?

-HDR is limited to +-2 EV only (due to compensation limit?)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I'll be working on the liveview mirror lockup emulation then.

As for the histogram, the CR2 might actually include the data, but for JPG it'll be calculated at review time.

Re: ISO, it might be one of those "5DmkII things". Unfortunately the 5DmkII is both the most used prosumer camera as well as the most problematic one with remote control, barring perhaps the 1DmkIV. I have neither, so this stuff is hard to figure out.

The app does not set ISO for HDR, so it'll use whatever the camera thinks is current. Are you sure AUTO isn't set as soon as you select Av/Tv mode? DSLR Controller actually displays the currently metered ISO value if available instead of ISO AUTO. Have you tried specifically setting an ISO value ?

As for the +-2 EV, that is camera dependent. For example, my 550D does +-5 (very usable for HDR), but the 50D I have here also does only +-2.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] darkshift:
Auto iso bug

ISO is set to auto by the app as soon as I turn the dial to Av/T. Can't change it.

In camera I have manual iso setting before launching the app, not auto. So I think its a bug.

I'm bet its very hard to reverse engineer these things.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Again, it's the cam, not the app, that does this. And if you cannot change it, then the cam is _telling_ the app the setting cannot be changed.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] shaggy-h:
Regarding mirror lock up - I think liveview emulation is a sensible default however there are a couple of reasons why people might prefer real MLU over liveview. As darkview pointed out liveview requires additional battery, but leaving liveview on for extended periods also heats up the sensor which introduces more noise. Another possible concern would be in dark environments where light pollution from the liveview LCD might taint the image.

I think two seconds is a sensible amount of delay for MLU and there's probably not a lot of need to make that configurable. An option to lock up the mirror and then fire the shutter in a separate manual step is useful however in situations where the timing of the photo is important (with moving objects etc). The latter has been important to me when photographing cobwebs (http://goo.gl/kk2mS) where even the slightest breeze causes vibrations in the web, so I would have to time the shot for when the web was momentarily still.

FWIW here are a couple of articles that talk about mirror vibration, with graphs of vibration over time:

http://markins.com/charlie/report4e6.pdf

http://bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/mlu.html
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Interesting points, and I will build in what I have discovered about MLU into the next update. It should then no longer crash/hang/etc. It should basically just work in the next update (with some exceptions, like continuous shooting and such). However, MLU itself is one of those settings (C.Fn.) that cannot be set by the app. I've tried it, on some cameras it works, but I find it altogether a too dangerous operation. If it goes wrong you have to hard-reset your camera, losing all settings, etc. So MLU has to be configued on the camera directly, either way.

I'll also think about adding mirror-up/wait-for-user capture as you pointed out is sometimes needed.

Regarding the liveview emulation, what would happen is:

- Capture button is pressed

- Liveview is turned on (but not seen) so mirror flips up

- X second wait

- Capture

- Liveview off

So it wouldn't impact battery that much (only the X second wait). As for light pollution, it won't be shown on the phone/tablet... Does liveview turn on the cam LCD when you use DSLR Controller ? Which camera model ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] darkshift:
Auto iso bug

To clarify, this is problem is not HDR related.

I've manually set ISO value in Av/T mode in camera, and can change it in Canon's own tethered software using a computer.

But the setting changes to auto when starting the DSLR app with camera in Av/T mode. It says auto/metered value and I can't change the value manually.

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I think you're right. Histogram is calculated from JPG data embedded in crw or cr2 file.

For 8-bit jpg file its calculating histogram is propably quite simple. Would it be just number of pixels for each value (0-255) divided by total pixels. Then draw similar (or better) graph than in camera preview does. Both grayscale and per component.

About reviews: could there also be gridded view of thumbnails, and fullscreen review after user selects one image? This would optimize screen usage for smartphones.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Be that as it may, it's still telling the app the value cannot be changed. And I cannot work around it until I have my hands on a 5DmkII.

Canon's own software has a LOT of hardcoding in it to work around problems like these ...

EDIT: hmm, well maybe I can debug it, but you'd need a special version... and root... and a wireless adb program... and... if you're comfortable with all that stuff, PM me your email address :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] darkshift:
auto iso

Sorry you we're right. This happens only when using liveview in video mode together with Av/T. Camera limits it to auto iso.

I use manual mode almost 100% only so this was kind of user error ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
In video mode ? Do you mean with "just" the video feature enabled in the menu, or ...

Please define video mode. I ask because I've heard people mention the same problem more often, but still don't know how to fix it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] darkshift:
video mode

The 5DII has several settings for live view / video display.

I mean this mode:

Live View function settings -> Stills+movie -> Movie Display

It has 16:9 frame, 1/30s min shutter limit and stepped down aperture. So when this is used together with Av/T, camera limits iso control to auto only.

Video mode is sometimes usefull for stills also, because it shows the actual aperture.

Later eos cams might behave differently, I'm not sure.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Ah right! I have heard of this setting/mode before. How this works differs per camera model. The 550D has a special video mode on the dial, the 7D has a dedicated video switch which works in any mode, but as far as I know does not enable these restrictions (its been a while since I had access to a 7D)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] BlackTegSE:
Has anyone tried a wireless USB adapter (WUSB) with the Asus Transformer? I was thinking about trying the Cables Unlimited one from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Unlimi...NZHA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323278755&sr=8-1
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I haven't, but I'd be very interested to hear any results !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] dswiger:
Question about Nook Color, Android version number

This is probably for chainfire

"Maybe the Nook Color is not running Android 2.3.4 yet ? In either case, I'm not sure the Nook Color is even fast enough. Does anybody know which chipset it runs on ? A dual-core is a must have for DSLR Controller."

I see the NOOK is supported in the devices listed on the website, but this statement about needed dual cores gives me pause!

I have the opportunity to get a Nook Color w/CM7 and want to make sure it will

work before I buy it

Thanks

Dan
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jevdroid:
Tried this today on VegaComb 9n running on a Point of View Mobii TEGRA2 tablet (yes, I switched the USB port to host before connecting the camera, a standard keyboard works). Unfortunately, it doesn't see my 5DII.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
All I can say is that users have reported that it works - I cannot comment on how well it works as I've never personally seen it in action.

VegaComb isn't a proper Honeycomb port (as there's no source), it's quite possible the API is broken... DSLR Controller doesn't currently offer the root method if API support is found... Maybe I will adjust this.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] msatter:
Those devices are rather power-hungry and you need to use a power adapter on the stick with your camera. For the other stick you need to have you Asus Transformer in notebook configuration.

This are still 1st generation stick and the less power-hungry generation has been announced by Samsung an other parties however I have not seen a product containing these chips.

I have posted about WUSB in this topic and you can start reading halfway this page and the pages after it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16385902#post16385902
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] BlackTegSE:
Another potential option/feature request for wireless tether. I'm just thinking out loud here but what if the camera was connected to a laptop or PC via USB cable, and then were was an optional software component installed on the PC. Then just connect your Android tablet or phone to your WiFi network and when you launch the DSLR Controller app, specify that you want to use a remote host and connect to your PC. The host PC would kind of be a middle man between the DSLR and the Android tablet/phone. This would give you complete freedom to move around since WiFi has such a broad signal.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
It's on the list... but very low priority.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] BlackTegSE:
Thanks! That saves me some time and money testing. :)

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Very cool :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] gemini8026:
Hi all. I just got a Galaxy S2 today, and the first thing I did after basic setup was purchase the app.

Im a photog buff, and own a Canon 5d MK2 with various lenses.

I rooted my Galaxy S2 using Chainfire's route on the XDA forum (im in Canada and on KG2)

Root worked good, and the purchased app started up.

So I made a cable. I hacked apart a a regular USB cable with a micro USB male tip, and soldered it to a Male mini USB end. Its not pretty, but I plugged it all in, and the app DOESNT recognise the camera.

Is there something in those host cables that treats it any different?!? I thought soldering the corresponding wires together would be the same as making a host cable, but it obviously didnt work........

I ordered a host cable for it on Ebay, but it'll take two weeks.

Did i screw it up, or is my firmware 2.3.3 KG2 not compatible with the software?!?

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^ Further searching tells me that I do need a unique cable that has that extra pin shorted on the head to enable Host Mode
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jaoropez:
+/- 2 works with the 450d/xsi, cannot go past that, as i believe it is a limitation of the camera. I can not go more that +-2 when i do bracketed shooting normally(w/o dsl controller).

what is the "swipe selectors" update?

testing with Sgt10.1:

1)I encountered one instance where i turned of teh camera and tab froze, did not comeoutof freeze, had to hold all buttons to start device, other times it just closed the app. must have been a fluke.

2) hdr feature working, i am able to set more that 3 photos(13 max @ 1/3 stops), looking forward to being able to "program" shots, which would further extend the 450ds ability to take HDRs.

3)grid did stay (nice).

4)image review- follow shot still not working, shows black screen, and able to take picture now though. dont expect this to work due to limitations of older hardware(450d)

5) I dont think this has been adressed yet, or might just be 450d, but the C"custom) drive mode option does not give the option to set how many shows you want to shoot.

thanks for the update, keep up the good work!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] taaz69:
Sprint Samsung GS2

I checked and searched. I cannot seem to find any information regarding this issue. I cannot connect an USB stick. Is there a recommended ROM I could flash for this specific phone.

I am considering buying a tablet next year. Have you seen or looked at the Asus Transformer Prime, yet? I'd be interested in your option on this one. I would hope this meets the standards. This may be the answer to using your app.

Again, I appreciate your work. One day it will work on my phone. :D
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Well done :)

Swipe selectors - these are the things you see when selecting exposure compensation in liveview mode. They used to be absolutely positioned (every position on the black bar corresponded to a single setting), but now they are relative (the length of the swipe and the direction dictates the change in setting). Did that because I was originally building the Av/Tv HDR mode with swipe selectors. In the end I decided buttons worked better for this thing, so the change became less prominent than expected.

1) That does happen sometimes... Close the app before disconnecting the camera :)

2) Coming :)

3) As asked !

4) Hmm, I'm not sure why this wouldn't work on the 450d ... If you are in follow shot mode and you take a picture, it does not automatically appear on-screen? Because that's what it does. In normal liveview mode, if you take a picture, does the name of picture (IMG_xxxx) flash on-screen (small, bottom of screen) after capture?

5) I don't think that's actually settable by remote... Either way, I don't think DSLR Remote supports continuous shooting on the 450d at all.

Sorry but I cannot tell you more about the E4GT. The only things I know are:

1) Sprint and Samsung actually advertise this works

2) It doesn't actually work at the moment

3) People were working on getting it fixed - however, from my searches, it doesn't seem they were succesful so far

As for the ATP, I'm probably getting one, so yes, you can assume it will be supported :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] frankyweb:
very very nice
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] shaggy-h:
Ah I see. I have a Galaxy Nexus (no custom kernel) and Canon 40D (no USB Host cable yet) so I can't test any of this quite yet. I assumed the cam LCD would always be displaying the image while liveview was enabled, if that's not the case (and liveview is only enabled for the X second wait) then a lot of my concerns disappear.

Thanks for the detailed response, hopefully I'll be able to test this within the next week or so (or whenever you have a build out with support for some of the above).
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
No, if all is well, the cam LCD is blank by default.

I'm not sure about the 40D though, it's one of those VxWorks cams, they're only half supported. The situation may be different - but I only get to test on a VxWorks once every few months.