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[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Who else has to worry about mobile malware though? Wp7 is an obvious no and ios to the best of my knowledge hasn't had issues since its 3rd Gen software. Most other mobile oses are either too small or just as locked down and less worth creating viruses for, not to mention how much harder it'd be for less profit. So really who else has to?
[General Topics] vetvito:
Z33d33
[General Topics] xaccers:
Did you not read that article? The Lookout one, not the misinformed wmpoweruser one.

It clearly states IOS has vulnerabilities too.

WP7 can be lumped in with "other" mobile os's as it's too small to be of interest.

The attacks will target whatever they are most likely to gain the most from, and at the moment that is Android and IOS.
[General Topics] Tone_:
Yes I know people are going to scream pedant but I don't think these can be classed as a virus as they are not spreading device to device, they are wilfully being installed.
[General Topics] muerteman:
Guys just let this thread die and stop listening to the op arguing won't change his hatred of android, and the reasonable ones here won't be persuaded with his garbage facts so essentially anything he posts is pointless for everyone
[General Topics] MartyLK:
Maybe malware is what was wrong with my HD2 flashed with Android. I have been using all kinds of Android ROMs on my HD2 and just lately my HD2 seemed to be failing. The SD card would "Unexpectedly be removed" constantly. I thought my HD2 was failing in the card slot because not one single card I use with Android would work. No matter how or what I used to format the cards, nothing made them work to where the "Unexpected removal" didn't pop up. But I flashed WP7 again with its dedicated card I keep reserved for it and it it works just fine...knock on wood.

In fact, though the reserved WP7 card only has 200MB of space on it...it's a 16GB card that I won't restore with the Panasonic formatter...it will work without issue in my HD2 with Android...no "Unexpected removal" error ever pops up while using the WP7 card in Android.

This makes me think malware might be responsible for trashing every single card I have...like 6 of them of various sizes...that has been used with Android.

Whatever the case, my HD2 is now permanently a WP7 phone. It started out a Windows phone and is now ending up a Windows phone...lol
[General Topics] Magnetox:
Oh lord.

Check the reviews.

Install lookout security.

Check app permissions.

Don't be a dumbass (this is where the 3/10 users fail, dam iSheep idiots).

Profit.

/endthread
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Apps that are loaded with malware often have a page of great reviews put there by the devs. Hell the battery management app that infected so many even had a thread here at xda that received great reviews. No one installs anti-virus on phones. If there's holes they should be patched but with googles shoddy infrastructure they can't just submit a universal patch to work on all devices. Robo-defense says it needs access to my call logs, should I not download that? Pretty much any ad-supported game will request the same permissions as a virus infected app.
[General Topics] truva55:
More an OS becomes popular, more hackers shows interests into that ...
[General Topics] xaccers:
Wasn't that thread about the original battery managment app, not the repackaged malware version?
[General Topics] Indirect:
If you think just because you have an antivirus, your computer is safe, you might as well throw it off a roof and think "I have gravity, that means my computer will not be smashed to pieces" In all reality, it's extremely easy to bypass an antivirus. Especially Mcafee and Norton. Those are usually what comes with Pc's and AVG doesn't detect known viruses that other companies pick up for atleast a few days to a week or even 2 in some cases. I remove viruses that no AV will pick up because that's the issue. Humans that know what they are doing, cannot be bypassed. We learn and adapt. Same can be said for android malware. Once you learn it's malicious and can harm you, you usually avoid and should learn your lesson. A machine however, like your computers antivirus can easily be fooled, try looking into ring3 root kits that actually completely avoid your antivirus and let me know how you plan on getting it off with an antivirus. These malicious apps can usually gain system level privledges via root exploits and guess what, same can be said in Mac, windows, and linux desktop enviroments. Sh** happens, deal with it and learn from your mistakes.

edit: I also should point out that since windows phone apps can be made in visual basic, it is significantly easier for people to make a full blown virus for that than android which requires knowledge of linux, android, and java.

You also should know that you need to learn to read permissions on apps as they will usually show you that "Oh crap, you don't want this" all before your information is compromised. When you use a windows pc, you don't think "This thing sucks, I got a virus. I think it's time to throw it away." You think "I need to get rid of this virus and continue about with my day." So why can't the same be said about your phone? If you really are worried about viruses, just root the thing and then delete any virus no matter where it is.
[General Topics] Tone_:
so C# is somehow different?
[General Topics] Indirect:
C# is for windows? Lol, C# is actually microsofts retaliation for sun's java. They wanted a simple language like java but already had one of the easiest languages to learn, visual basic. So they created C#.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
but, I don't have to worry about that downloading basic apps from the marketplace. If I have my phone developer unlocked then I'm likely smart enough to read the reviews and do my research on a sideloaded app and an app with malware won't hit the market with wp7, the authorization process is insane. With android you have to worry with each app you downloaded now. They're building or recycling built games for the purpose of storing malware now and it's only going to get worse. I just hope people begin to see that an open source os isn't all unicorns and rainbows.
[General Topics] slapshot30:
Are you kidding me right now? Really? You attention whore, bashing android again. Guys, let this thread die like the other one. Because the other thread got buried in the pile of threads, this guy wants to stir up the pot again. You're pathetic dude. At least try and look unbiased, instead your OP is riddled with obvious hits at android.

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[General Topics] z33dev33l:
im not unbiased, android itself feels like a dated OS and google has proven to be about as competent as a sack of grapes in recent times. Android was fun when i felt as though id need to spend hours a day making my phone functional, now i have a phone that started out functional and only gets better.
[General Topics] Rejinderi:
Microsoft's C# goal is actually to have it be a multi-platform language that can run on different devices such as tablet, desktop, smartphones and such. they're making it full scale you can even use it for web programming, mobile programming, desktop programming. It's what they call .NET and visual basic is part of it but C# tends to get all the new features first.

These few years C# has really grown a lot, over taken java in many many ways.. If android were to adopt C# its good. But the problem is whether the current developers are willing to make the switch. Which I think its unlikely. hopefully nothing goes haywire then nothing will change and we'll all live happily ever after~ blah blah blah
[General Topics] slapshot30:
What you mean is that you have a phone that has zero customizability compared to android. You might as well get the iPhone, it "starts out functional". Both WP7 and iPhone are "one size fits all" OS's. Android ****s on both those and I will never understand your vendetta against it.

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[General Topics] z33dev33l:
never had a vendetta against it until google showed their asses in this whole patent conflict. I just wanted to showcase the beauty of having a hardware selection AND running an OS that doesn't play out worse than windows 95. I like having choices but if not being able to set a background pic is the only loss and I gain an actual pleasant user experience sign me up for all you have.
[General Topics] Tone_:
I know what C# is, but how is VB any less secure than C# as inferred by OP when they both compile to MSIL?
[General Topics] xaccers:
Nah it's not zero customisability Zee wants, it's Zero complexity. Come on, this is the guy who freely admits he couldn't cope with Android even straight out of the box, he tried flashing roms, screwed up, ended up with several devices that had next to no battery life, lag, or just didn't work, then blamed the OS not the person who installed it.

WP7 is perfrect for him, it's like being wrapped in cotton wool in a padded cell, there's no danger of it confusing him because it's all lists, there's no "complicated" icons on the desktop, just nice duplo tiles. The only decision he has to worry his little head over is which CGA colour to pick for the tiles. No "Oh my goodness what wallpaper should I have?" or "Ahhh there's a new song I like and I want it for a ring tone"

All those "awkward" decisions are handled by MS for you, by simply removing them.

It's the perfect mobile OS for people who can't decide what to wear and need someone to dress them in the mornings.

The scary thing is he claims to be an Android developer, I know, delusional but what can you do?

I tell you one thing I'm certain of, he's not going to change the thread title or his original post to reflect that the report didn't actually make that prediction.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
you say you've been in the industry for 30 years now and yet you act like such a child with your petty insults. If you want to continue blaming your OSes flaws on a user when google themselves have addressed them then go on. I for one accept wp7's few shortcomings and will admit to them at any point. At least you're right about one thing which is a pleasant change. I won't be changing the original post to reflect any differently. I may add in wmpoweruser as my source but hey, its not like its hurting any more, with androids recent string of legal issues there's nothing but bad publicity to be had.
[General Topics] xaccers:
Once again we have another thread in which you knowingly post misinformation. Granted at first you hadn't actually looked into it enough, taking the wmpoweruser article at face value, we've all done stuff like that, seen an article, forgotten to dig a bit deeper, just look at thread recently about ipads etc being recalled that the OP hadn't noticed was nearly a year old.

However, now you've even posted a link to the original article it says a lot about how much of a threat you find Android to continue to propergate such misinformation as you normally post.

Seriously, if it was too complicated for you and made you feel that bad about yourself, just take your WP7 duplo phone and have a long read through the lists instead of trolling. I'm sure it was never Google's intention to make people feel foolish for not finding their OS intuitive, and perhaps if you write to them expressing your feelings they'll even reply with an appology and some crayons.

You don't see any of us trolling the forums with new threads spreading misinformation about WP7, or even actual information regarding it's plethora of failings (I believe there are enough threads from dissapointed WP7 owners in the WP7 section anyway).
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Actually opposed to other OSes I see a much better complaints:praise ratio. There is a difference in me knowingly posting information and not editing when the information is in small part worded differently, I mean regardless android is the main offender with an excessive amount of malware readily available right on the marketplace. I hope your childish insults are doing something for you because they really only come off as petty here. The OS is not intuitive, that's why they leave it up to OEMs and third party developers to Frankenstein together some halfway useful (but oft still laggy) UI replacement as well as a replacement for pretty much every other option the phone has built in. I mean it's exactly like calling vanilla Linux intuitive... Sure it has potential to be... Useful? I guess. But that's due entirely to a third party's modifications and not the intuition of the original development team (google.)

As far as your trolls, see n8er, vetvito, dominstry, or many other android fanboys who choose to troll the wp7 forums on a daily basis and have done so for about a year if not more now. Do you personally? No. Then again you'd likely just be laughed off there professing your lag free android on every device with a processor that hits 1 gig.
[General Topics] vetvito:
Why name me? Because I had a WP7 device and didn't like it?

Talk about petty. Smh, dude you're sad. You're a mad Microsoft employee, looking to blame Android for your failure of an OS.

I wont argue with nothing you've stated, as there is no point. You have a huge prejudice as if Android is bullying your child.

You don't like Android, fine. We get that. Move on.

And I invite anyone to view my post history.
[General Topics] slapshot30:
Relax, it's just an attention whore. As soon as one of his android sissy fits dies, he needs to make another. Don't even give him the time of day. Just move on and don't reply, or just troll the absolute **** out of him. :P

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[General Topics] Karl231:
This statistic only applies if android does not evolve at all in the next year.
[General Topics] MacaronyMax:
Jailbreak me.com. You click one button and it installs Cydia with out needing to confirm, anyone could do that with any app/ mal aware (continuing from first page)
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
while jailbreaking has become more popular its still nothing opposed to downloading the infected apps directly from the market place.

As for the others, enjoy attempting to troll me, I don't get offended by what I read online. I just post the stories as I hear them, the fact that I particularly enjoy pointing out the many chinks in androids suit of armor is just a bonus.
[General Topics] slapshot30:
Can someone get this guy a violin? I need something to go along with his whining and moaning.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
thats the androidian level of maturity I've heard so much about, and you wear it so well. I mean not as nice as the google exec who wouldn't co-bid on patents with Microsoft because he wanted to be able to utilize them against other manufacturers but well enough I guess.
[General Topics] vikas776:
I just wish

I just wish

Man give me moderator power for 5 secs

I just wish

BTW

WP7 FTW \m/ \m/
[General Topics] Gusar321:
Wow, your powers of spin are incredible...
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Then please, do feel free to enlighten me on why else the company would be interested in holding sole dominion over a series of patents rather than protecting themselves from legal litigation as they very well should be at this point. At the rate the lawsuits are coming in they need to save face anywhere they can but instead they're trying to own patents solely so they can do unto the bigger companies what they have done to them which while admirable as an effort is the move of a 12 year old and not a multi-billion dollar corporation.
[General Topics] pmcqueen:
(protip: don't feed the troll)
[General Topics] lukenova:
This.

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[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Even better protip, if you don't like the thread quit bumping it. Especially with such pointless posts as the one directly above mine. The item only needs to be stated once. Saying "this" is just a free bump.
[General Topics] ricky babalu:
XDA's official Galaxy S hater.

Dell Venue Pro

-All Stock

-Still better than your phone

Well Well Well............Be careful folks, very unstable, childish and obviously enjoys the banter. He has no audience were he resides so he comes over to the "Big Boy Playground" to stir the pot.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
you're comical.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
That's exactly the point. To protect yourself from other companies' bogus patents, you need your own stack of bogus patents. It's how this stupid game works. Others have dragged Google into this game, Google would otherwise have no need to be the sole owner a stack of patents. And it's why the "Google was invited to join in" arguments is crap. You can't defensively use patents that are co-owned by the company attacking you.

This is where your craziness comes in. Here you're accusing Google that they will go on the offensive. From where did you get this? There's no history of Google offensively using patents that you can point to. There's nothing else you can point to as the basis for this accusation either. There's only what I've written above: Google needs patents for defensive purposes.

Note: I know, I know, don't feed the troll. I'm writing this more for the benefit of other readers, not for z33dev33l, he's is a hopeless case.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
If they're being used solely for defensive purposes then it would be in their best interest to own or even co-own some of the many patents they are infringing on. It doesn't take a financial analyst and a team of lawyers to figure that out. That's common sense. The only reason they'd need their own stack of "bogus" patents is if they intended to go on the offensive themselves, please put a little more realistic reasoning in your statements before making a poor assumption regarding another level of intellect.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
This sentence makes no sense. First, patents that are co-owned by the company attacking you cannot be used defensively.

Second, for other patents how could Google ever have co-owned them? They weren't always invited to join in, that was only for that one specific portfolio. Which is now in the hands of the Open Invention Network anyway, so Google bidding on them would be nothing but a waste of money. So Google was actually smart not to join in.

How can this be the only reason, when I've provided another one? Dude...

Err, that advice should actually be pointed towards you. See what I mean with "hopeless case"?

This could be a fun dance now, but unfortunately it's late in my timezone (2:30am), so I'm going to bed.
[General Topics] KalevEfrayim:
I have had a 32gig IPhone 3gs and currently own a Motorola Droid 1. Simply enough I never had a virus on either device. Also iPhone worked and was able to handle a lot more apps than droid. I am going back to and stick with iPhone. Between the two iPhone I had 0 to 1 problems. On Droid its been endless problems with minor improvements and still have probs after rooting and Cyanogenmod 7 and over clock and watchdog and juice defender and well it keeps going. After bours and hours that turned into weeks then months research with little to none help I was able to do all the above to my Droid. iPhone simply worked thats what I need it was able to handle what I did with it which was heavy networking research and productivity and business plus entertainment and heavy downloads! :-) Droid freaks out on me if I push buttons to fast. :-( So I still support and like Droid its really cool but iPhone is for me it works Droid did not. :-) Oh yeah never had to nor will I ever worry about a virus on my phone. I am no dummy if I dont know or just simply unsure or if it sounds bad don't do it best advice I can give anyone. :-)
[General Topics] slapshot30:
^ that isnt even a fair comparison. You jacked with your droid (rooted etc) and expected everything to just work. It doesnt work that way. Then you compare it to a stock iPhone... Not really a fair comparison in my opinion in terms of talking about bugs. iPhone is hands down the most simple though. If you want to customize down to the bone though, android is king, but can also be as simple as you make it.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[General Topics] vbetts:
Honestly I'm not surprised by this.

You can have an awesome virus/malware protection app, but your safest bet is watch what you download and browse.
[General Topics] Daeva:
Use a anti-virus app like Lookout and LBE Privacy Guard and you don't even need common sense and you'll be safe from malware.

Also I think Google would have no problem scanning and analyzing every app that gets published on the Market. So I highly doubt malware will be very prevalent in the future. :)
[General Topics] lukenova:
I find it funny to read you people going back and forth about patent this and legal that. At the end of the day, Google is a company with obligations to make money for its shareholders. If that means having to buy patents, then so be it.

I love android. Until something much better comes along, I will own android phones. I own an iPod touch and even jailbroken, it doesn't offer near the level of tinkering that android does.

I believe that android is a geek's phone OS. It is made for people that want to play with it. That want to flash a new rom every other day and deal with stuff breaking. Some people (like me) find that fun.

If you don't, go play in apple's or Microsoft's sandbox and have a nice day. Just don't come bashing on other peoples choices.

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[General Topics] Azure_d:
It's nice that Google have added list of access that the application will be using. I would like to have a category for open source app only. Having access to the source is useful for deciding whether to trust an app or not.
[General Topics] :
That's pretty much what I feel like too haha

The OP is just basically pointing a fat finger at us and saying "haha, I told you! Android sucks!"
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
No need to point fingers, the legal system, google themselves, malware writers, and many others are doing that enough. Lets just hope google can pull it together or else they're going to end up having to build a new OS altogether that doesn't break all of these patent laws. Fat chance that google would actually build something from scratch like that.
[General Topics] ricky babalu:
XDA - We really need a feature were we can vote to close a thread. The feature, for example would require that 10 votes would be needed in order to close a thread such as this one. "Sort of a community moderation feature".
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
yes, that's sensible, then all the fandroids can get any thread not worshipping their OS closed. Totally makes sense, let the people of this forum who think telling someone to color with crayons is funny micro-mod our forums. While we're at it why don't we put Bush back in office and this time instead of a cabinet well give him a barn full of animals to help make the decisions. It'd be one hell of a reality show.
[General Topics] mrrick:
Thats basically what he had before. He was the start chimp of the show. God that was some good entertainment. Any time he was going to be on tv, be it interview or speech, i made sure to dvr it because I knew it would be comedy gold..

Anyways..
[General Topics] slapshot30:
It has nothing to do with fans of Android and Google. It's you. You and you're annoying sissy fits crying out for attention. Look at your signature, a cry for attention. You really must ponder these things every hour of every day and then decide to post stupid stuff to stir up the pot. There are so many of us that are sick of your annoying attempts at whoring for attention. You really must not have a life. You sit on XDA all day and start up arguements and monitor your threads to spice up your day. Most of us can't stand you at all, and you really seem to enjoy it.