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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jc66:
Help with DSLR Controller

hi, I bought this app but it does not work on my smartphone says " could not find a compatible camera on either WiFi or USB" :(

I have a Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S android 4. and a Canon 5D MKII

can it be the usb cable connection?

can anyone help me to try to solve this situation?

Thank you!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] tornadolf:
He'll need a few details like camera, device, and rom that you are using.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jc66:
Problem solved with another cable!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] brandjamie:
Sorry.

Camera is a 550d. Device is a rooted Prestigio 5080c Pro. Using the Ice Cream Sandwich it came installed with. The device claims USB host mode but the host mode API doesn't seem to be enabled.

Thanks again.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Kaitology:
Hey, I'm considering buying this app to control my 2nd camera.

I mainly shoot at events and I would like to place my 600D on sticks on a fixed location while I'm running around the venue shooting on my 5D3.

When I want to take a quick overview shot using my 600D, I'd have to run all the way to the camera to turn it on (or awake it from slumber) and press record. I saw it's possible to wirelessly control the attached device using a second device. So I could probably use this app to do it from my HTC One X and a tablet/phone I connect to it.

The question is: is it actually possible? Can DSLR Controller turn the camera on after it automatically shut down after its idling timer has ran out? Can I start and stop recording from a WiFi connected Android device (attached tablet + wireless HTC One X)

A quick second question while I'm posting here: is it possible to use the LiveView in the app as a second monitor (for a client/while using a glidecam, etc)? Perhaps even as a wireless follow focus? I noticed the refresh rate is quite slow in a YouTube video but perhaps this was in not-optimal conditions.

Many thanks - even if what I've just asked is not possible it's still a terrific job!

Regards
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Blue-Tack:
I'm wondering whether anyone has tried to use a non-tablet/phone device (such as a dongle with built-in wifi) tethered to the camera and then controlled via wifi passthrough on their phone/tablet.

For example, something like this:

[I can't post links yet]

amazon com/Version-Rikomagic-Android-Rockchip-RK3066/dp/B00A0I7ZWS/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=A76FR6O1NBAXV

powered by a portable battery like this:

dx com/p/1000mah-portable-solar-power-battery-pack-for-cell-phones-and-usb-gadgets-white-44046

(These products are given to demonstrate my idea only, I'm not sure that they would necessarily be the best specced/price for the job)

I suggest this as it seems to be a relatively low-cost low-profile solution to implementing wireless control.

The dongle could be programmed to automatically start DSLRcontroller when turned on. Chainfire, would it be possible for DSLRcontroller to have a setting allowing it to automatically start wifi passthrough without any use interaction?

Cheers!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Blue-Tack:
Now that I have bought the app I see that it automatically searches for wifi passthrough - great!

Any thoughts/comments on suggested setup? Anyone tried something similar?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 4rs fed:
That actually seems like a great idea............
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I'm adding this to my to-do list. Not sure if/when/etc.

Not currently possible.

Wireless liveview is only available through Wi-Fi at the moment if you have two modern Android devices. No plan to incorporate bluetooth - why would there be? Bluetooth is slower than Wi-Fi, and I don't know of any EOS DSLR that has built-in bluetooth...

That link is dead :(

These sort of problems are usually related to bad USB cables. However, there may always be some weird issues using the "rooted" API which is in use on your device. Maybe the kernel does not support it well, etc. Try different cables, but I would not be surprised if it will never run stable on this device.

DSLR Controller can *not* turn on the camera if it has timed out due to the idle timer. If you connect a device running DSLR Controller to the camera, and have liveview turned off (this is important) both will be able to work for a number of hours, though.

You can indeed start and stop recording over Wi-Fi.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean with your second monitor question.

This is an interesting idea that has in fact been raised before - but back when we first discussed this none of these devices were actually on the market yet. We'd need to make DSLR Controller start in Wi-Fi mode immediately, and have DSLR Controller set up as default camera device user, but it should be possible. What I'm wondering is, if these "TV sticks" will even properly boot and work if no display is connected.

Also, if I'm going to look into this, I will probably order such a device some day soon. Find one with reasonably good user reviews that is easy and cheap to come by, then test it and write a tutorial. Something for the near future.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DJsCrIBbLe:
I haven't been following for awhile but how does the WiFi thing work... does the android device connected to the camera stream live view over WiFi to another android device running your app...

Thanks
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 4rs fed:
a SIMPLE 9 second google search returns the results you need........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV7tyPoxpjE&feature=channel&list=UL

Since you couldn't look for it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] elhennig:
As far as I saw, there is currently no function to download/backup photos from the camera directly, or? Do you have any plans to implement this feature?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] bellrb19:
If you read back a bit further you will see that this is his highest priority feature and he is having a few setbacks. I am guessing app will leave beta once it is implemented.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Ian00:
Yeah bluetooth would probably limit how much you could interact with the camera, and you would have to diy a bluetooth module and get some firmware for the app to control. Honestly, I would be happy just being able to release the shutter wireless using this app.

Another question, can you use dslr controller at all with magic lantern?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DjJuvan:
I have a question about the DSLR Controller... because the 550D is capable shooting 1hour and longer shoots (with a help of magic lantern), I'm interested in an option of shutting down the liveview screen on my camera when using tablet for shooting. After an hour of shooting the camera heats up really quick and it would be usefull to dim out the screen and watch the liveview on android tablet. Only that way there would not be any heating problems....

is it possible to include such an option in DSLR controller?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] theGentle:
Whoops, Server problem - Link is back online: Monitoring a Canon DSLR on set with an Android Tablet; HD on-camera with Peaking for $215! “DSLR Controller” in a Real-Life film production environment.

Again, here's some photos in case they were offline too:

Gentle
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DjJuvan:
@theGentle, how did you manage to shutdown the LCD screen on DSLR when shooting via Android tablet?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I don't test with Magic Lantern myself but others claim it works fine with ML installed.

I don't think that's even possible (as in: the in-camera firmware does not support shutting off the LCD screen during recording - regardless of what you send over USB)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] theGentle:
@DjJuvan: I didn't/don't need to - you just strap the tablet onto the camera, and what happens behind the tablet is out of your sight ;)

Also, @chainfire: Was lucky enough to get my article as well as this development thread featured on a great indie filmmaking website, NoFilmschool.com:

http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/shoot-film-iphone-canon-dslrs-android-tablet/

This will bring a bunch of new filmmakers to find this technology, so be ready to have the thread flooded ;)

Also, a reader on my blog just made me aware of a (quite pricey, but..!) rig that has the Nexus 7 sitting on a friction arm and display via DSLR Controller:

https://dslrpros.com/Products/tabid/94/CategoryID/0/List/0/Level/a/ProductID/28/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Gentle
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
Well I've been searching for 45 minutes now, and I'm sure I've missed the answer to this, but I can't seem to find it.

Is it possible to use this app just for image review during a photo session? I want to use my camera to take the photos as usual, but have the most recent image taken show up on the tablet screen.

Thanks
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 4rs fed:
yes this is possible.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
Could you explain how? I have the app, have my 5D MKII hooked up. Soon as I hook it up, it takes over the camera, and I can't seem to get it to let me take photos on the camera and just see the image on the tablet.

update: oh i think i'm mostly there. i disabled live view on startup, once app launches i go to Options, Image Review, and i can see the images on the camera. It updates the thumbnails when i take a photo but doesn't automatically select and show the big version of the most recent photo.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 4rs fed:
sounds like it is not working for you. Check your USB cable.

Once you plug in the tablet, the camera goes into liveview mode.

You can see on the camera viewfinder AND the tablet the image, and make changes, aperture, shutter speed everything.

Once the picture is taken, the tablet shows the image.

You can even browse the memory card on the tablet and pinch to zoom and move the photo around.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
Hmm once I go into Live View on the app, my camera gets essentially disabled and flashes a Busy message whenever I try to do something on it.I've been using this USB cable to tether to Lightroom and it has always worked fine, but the OTG cable connecting it to my tablet (nexus 10) is new. Maybe that's the problem.

update: fiddled with live view settings on camera and seem to be able to take pictures both on camera and tablet, but image review only shows up for last photo if i take the picture on the tablet. if i look at all the images on the camera, i can see them all, thumbnails update when i take a new photo, but it doesn't automatically load latest photo.That's really the only thing I'm missing/wanting at this point.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] daveid:
You were almost there.. instead of Image Review, select Image Review - Follow Shot.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 4rs fed:
this is how mine works.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWNLSmW3MU
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
That seems to work as long as I take the picture from the tablet, but if I take it from the camera, follow shot doesn't appear. Son has decided I have played with this enough for now, so will try again later. Thank you both for the help! Will watch the posted YouTube video soon as I get a chance.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] daveid:
In Image Review - Follow Shot mode, it is impossible to take a photo with the tablet. I don't fully understand what you are doing. Open DSLR Controller, press the menu button, select Image Review - Follow Shot, select your viewing mode (Fullscreen for me)... profit.

From here, your camera should exit live view/mirror lockup mode, and be free for operation. The tablet should just show a blank screen until you take your first photo. Take a shot, wait a second or two, and it will show on the tablet. Take another shot, and it should replace the first image. You should be able to zoom in/out on the tablet as in any image viewer, and it should continue to update as you take more shots.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
i totally said the wrong thing before, but I still need to go back and try to get this follow shot working. I did manage to find my way there, and all I ever saw was the black screen. Did not ever load a photo after taking a shot from camera. I'll go back and fiddle with that again, try to get it working. thanks again!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] daveid:
One last note, this does require you to shoot in either Jpeg or RAW+Jpeg, I'm almost certain of that.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
I bet that's the problem then. I was shooting in RAW. I'll try RAW + Jpeg. Thanks for the tip!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Well, it does actually state in the menu - you know, the place where you need to put your finger to start follow shot mode - that it requires JPG.

If you're wondering why - the transfer time of the RAWs may interfere with the shooting if you're shooting really rapidly (like holding down the button in continuous mode for 30 seconds or so)... if you don't care about the JPGs at all, I'd shoot in RAW + small JPG. For quick review small JPG is usually more than enough quality and they transfer really fast so chances of interfering with capture are pretty much non-existant. Don't get me wrong, shooting in large JPG does not actually have a high chance of interfering, but faster is better.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DjJuvan:
That's the stupidest thing I wouldn't expect from Canon. Why would I need a liveview on camera, if I have it on PC/android. I hope the Magic Lantern solves this one day :\
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I'm not sure if you've been keeping up with Canon's latest moves and decisions, but them doing something that isn't completely dumb is pretty rare these days. If I wasn't invested in Canon so much, I would jump ship.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
Thanks for explanation. Makes sense, no problems with that. I just wasn't sure where in the app I needed to be in order to do the image review like I wanted until previous poster helped. Then didn't actually have the time yesterday to go back and play with it more, which is when I would have noticed the JPEG requirement :p Can't wait to get back to it today. Wonderful to have an app like this! I shoot little kids mostly and will be glad to do away with them clambering all over my tethered laptop if I so much as blink an eye.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Imagine somebody read that without context.

(I can't help myself)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] KestrelX:
lol!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jeremyshaw:
Hello!

I'm a Nikon owner (just found out our manuf. PC software costs 180usd!!!), so I'll just bother you with the following request:

May you please also consider future Nook Color support? Once rooted, users and developers gain access to a software switchable USB host mode, and one of a few IPS panels in the world under 250usd :) Also 1024x600 Res at 7", and a convinient nook in the bottom left to attach to other items, like a camera bag, or a spare SD card holder :D

Thank you very much! Some of us in the nook color subforum are looking on very closely at future developments.

Jeremy
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] walkeryan:
Hmmm

Anyone know if this will work with my Canon EOS Rebel T3 (1100D)?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jaoropez:
am trying with tab 10.1 and 450d(rebel xsi):

bad-

unable to capture picture

control, dont show options, just say the title of the option largely in the center

force closed quite abit

good-

live view not showing on camera lcd, only on tablet ( nice camera battery saver)

was able to see controls once, was able to adjust aperature and shutter

still very optimisitc.

will post video of 450d and galaxy tab later today, faults and all
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] madmikethespoon:
Nexus one

First i would just like to say i love what your doing with this app, I have been waiting a long time for this to come around. second, i need a little help. I paid for your app a few days ago, and ordered the OTG cable for my nexus one. Since then i wiped my phone and reloaded the newest CM. I was surprised to learn that the app was no longer available to download for my phone. I understand that the nexus one doesn't support USB host natively, However i know of at least one mod that always this. Given that i have already paid for this app and no longer have access to it, can you help me out and allow me to experiment. is there a way to download the older version that doesn't restrict what phone it can be downloaded to?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ACOMELATO:
As pointed above, another cool thing would be selling this app outside of the market, so that people that are willing to give you money to test in other devices may try (including me).

I have a DHD, and saw that there are kernels that allow usb host mode (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=993152) .

Theoretically, is it possible to control the camera with such a device? Im willing to test!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
@all

Doh, I just found out my sister actually has a 400D. She's on vacation though, but I should be able to test with this model next week.

Actually liveview going off on the camera is likely the problem why it doesn't work right. Working on that. All models pre 500d seem to have issues with that. Working on it.

However, could you do me a big favor and give me an estimate of the live view FPS you are getting ?

The USB host support in the Nexus is lacking. It is only the kernel support part, not the Android support part. This is what causes the problem of it disappearing from Market.

You should check your order and see if Google hasn't automatically refunded it already. I've heard from others with incompatible devices that they did.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Teabiscuit:
Any idea why I can't see it on my sgs2 running android 2.3.5 an MIUI? In the list on the android market it shows up as O2 Samsung GT-9100
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] d2globalinc:
CONFIRMED: Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 + Canon EOS Rebel T2i

I can confirm this app works with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 w/ the latest TouchWiz UI Update, the Samsung USB Connection kit, and my Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR...

Thanks!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] messus:
I am not a brand geek, I actually use Nikon gear and lenses as well, sold my D700 now, due to the same issues experienced here, but still use two nikon lenses on my 5d2:

forum.timescapes.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1976&view=next

dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?79086-time-lapse-flicker-and-nikon-DSLRs

For me it seems all the major timelapse releases seem to be coming from guys using Canon, and this may be one of the reasons for it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] levus71:
I've just read a news article about this app, and I've liked to buy it form Market.

Actually Market shows me this app is not compatible with my Samsung Galaxy S2.

I've recognized that forum title is Andorid 2.3.4, but Market shows me 2.3.3 is the minimum requirements.

I have:

Andorid: 2.3.3

Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100XXKF2-CL254204 se.infra@sep-35#2

What should I need to do to download this app?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] PsiTabulous:
@ Chainfire:

I think you will do some damage to your prospects if you do not clear up the whole 2.3.3 vs. 2.3.4 'thing'. I am sure a newer (3.0+ OS 10.1 tablet like the Asus Transformer is ALREADY ace with this beta app) ... but ...

... I would dearly love to use this on my ORIGINAL 7" Galaxy Tab P-1000. I have just carried out the OFFICIAL (unbranded, non carrier locked) UK upgrade from FROYO to GINGERBREAD (2.3.3) ... I am pretty sure that my device has the physical capability to 'mate' with the USB controller (as when I connect it to a laptop it gives me 3 options including USB HOST and Kies + one other).

I know there are a lot more HTC (and other phones) running 2.3.3 now, that are smaller (say 4.3" screen) than my 7" Galaxy Tab P-1000 screen. Only (it think) HTC Sense? or whatever the HTC 7" tablet is called is actually 2.3.4 vs 2.3.3.

LOOKING VERY VERY CLOSELY to see what may be possible here for all 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 compatible tablets (that may be smaller than the 10"+ offerings). Heck it may even be worth buying a 'lesser' tablet from Advent etc ... JUST to have it as a dedicated (Micro) SD reader AND ALSO a screen to view this very promising new app on !!

P.S. My small but gorgeous Epson P-4000 (photo viewer & CF + original SD reader / SDHC via CF adaptor) has just stopped turning on when either of my Lithium batteries are in it ... GUTTED !! - yet strangely still works off AC mains power. Bit of a 'brick' if I cannot use it 'in the field' mind you !!

Andrew (PsiTabulous)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] knoxploration:
Fair enough; there's plenty of them out there, but sorry for making the assumption nonetheless.

It stands to reason that when a brand has dominated market share for many years in DSLRs, you're going to see more people posting content from that brand. I don't think Canon's gear is necessarily any better suited than that from Nikon et al., though, you're just seeing the result of their larger market share.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.

If it is that you think 2.3.3 and older should be supported, that really isn't my call.

Aside from the SGS2 running a KG* 2.3.4 firmware, no pre-honeycomb device has the necessary Android parts. Period. I can't do magic, you know.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jaoropez:
@chainfire

did not really how to accurately check the fps, waht i tried is looking through my tab 10.1 at a tv with my canon 450d, i assume tv is 24fps, i could see lines, but besides taht playback was smooth, not choppy, i would say 15-20fps
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Chainfire:
Hmm, interesting. I'm getting about 4 fps on my 10.1v. There is currently no way to accurately check it from inside the app, but for me it is noticably choppy. Wonder what the difference is!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] bessa2:
Actually it was the Nikon D1!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] knoxploration:
Arguably, the D30 was a more important camera, as it was the first model that genuinely came within reach of enthusiast photographers. The D1, great as it was, still cost very close to $6,000, whereas the D30 could be had for basically half of that.

Yes, $3,000 was still a lot of money, but it was within the reach of a lot more people than Nikon's camera, which was clearly intended for professional use. (Pros had been justifying spending many tens of thousands of dollars for digital SLRs cobbled together from film camera bodies).

And what the D30 did for enthusiasts, the Rebel did for the general public -- it brought within reach products that they'd long wanted, but been completely unable to justify based solely on their cost.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Apachi2k:
I predicted that this app would be taking over the world when I got back from my vacation and boy was I right :)

I went straight from v3 to the latest version and the live view performance is amazing. There is still a good bit sync delay between the camera and the USB (about 3-4 seconds) but the FPS is much better. I'll post a video later today to give you a feel for it but I would guess it is definitely 10+ fps on the Xoom. I have a simple feature request that I think will be very handy for all photogs - can you please make a toggle to hide the buttons so we get a full screen live preview with only focus and firing the camera triggers? I am thinking something like left side of the screen focus the camera and right trigger the capture.