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[Windows Phone 7 General] twisticles:
In general I love Mango B2, and IE9 funtionality is great.

In terms of usability though, I think MS is missing a trick.

We've got larger screen real estate now that the address bar and menu bar is combined, but at a cost.

For example, I have two sites that I check daily. To update the first one when I open IE is menu > favourites > select fave. Then to switch to another, menu > tabs > select tab > menu > favourites > select favourite. Six key presses - not efficient.

Given the pivot style in the rest of WP, why can't I just swipte left/right to flick through my tabs?!? Or maybe/also keep the menu open when I select a new tab so I can action the new tab (Bing already creates a new tab, so mostly opening a new tab is to select a favourite, right?)

Once the tabs are all open you can use the multi-task keypress to reach all the open tabs quickly, but they disappear as other apps populate the multi-task screen.

I dunno, pivoting to different tabs seems like such a natural thing to be able to do in IE...
[Windows Phone 7 General] day2die:
Believe me, many of us are not happy with the new browser chrome either.

The address bar should be able to slide left and right to expose additional buttons/functions eg. tabs and favorites.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
This has been covered already. I create a simple template, which I think would solve the problem. You can see it in this post. My idea would be to keep the menu bar the same as IE8 was before Mango & keeping the address up top. Make it thinker to more finger friendly & add forward & back buttons. Finally, it would autohide once you finished entering a URL. To access it, you swipe down from the top of the screen. Here's the Photoshoped image I made;

Not perfect, but you get the point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
that would make it too much like the iOS browser which is pretty much the same amount of real estate
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I told you already, stop stalking my posts. Stop stalking everyone who complains about efficient things in WP7. Don't make me report you again!

It also has a lot more real estate than the iOS browser;

PS: Sorry to everyone else for this post. Added him to my ignore list...
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
I said nothing in that last post that violates the TOS. I just said it would be similar to the iOS browser which is already inferior to IEM9.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I would actually hate moving the address bar back to the top, and I think it looks too cluttered there tbh, especially when people rarely use a forward button, to give it priority like that.

On a side note, and no disrespect to you I just wanted to touch it with the whole "don't make me report you again!" comment, I think acting too much like the forum police, on every single thing that may not be perfect, is going to distract people from your helpful posts. Not sure what happened between you and this guy, but it seems like every thread I go to I see you "moderating" it, and it really takes away from how helpful you really are, just my opinion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Yes, it is kind of cluttered looking, but isn't final, just a quick thought of how to make it better. It can of course, be done better & I'm sure MS can come up with something better, but I think it really needs to be up top to make room in the menu bar. The swipe to the left the other guy said, seems no better then using a menu though IMO.

Sent you a PM on the side note.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aphasaic2002:
Why not put the back, forward and refresh buttons on the bottom bar - there's plenty of room next to the others. You can then auto-hide the address bar - it's only really useful to see what page you're on when the page is loading (who actually types in URLs on a mobile browser?).

Also "Add to Favorite" does not need a dedicated button as you favourite new websites rarely - this feature can be hidden in the bookmarks menu. The bottom bar should be hide-able too - often i'd prefer space for my website over buttons.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
without starting a flamewar about browsers or os's...

i'm currently enjoying:

scroll to top for menubar, no swiping or sliding or keypress needed.

menubar has www.---------- waiting for you to type in the rest. no bookmarks button, nothing at all.

for additional things like forward/back, a menu button is pressed... and it works very well. bookmarking is rare, as history goes back a week or three. it's easy enough to search in history on a topic to find the URL.

tabs... menu button -> all tabs.

just a hint in what might be the right direction. if ios/palm/whoever does it differently, it might just be better. try it out !
[Windows Phone 7 General] Alcoholic:
I really like ie9 in beta 2. It finally remembers location and zoomed state when going to previous page..

With that said when I upgraded from nodo to mango the address bar drove me nuts. I was used to having 4-5 tabs open all the time. Now I only have one open. I got used to working in just one tab. Its less of an hassle to use one tab than switching between them.

Slidable address bar is an excellent idea. I would definitely support something like this.
[Windows Phone 7 General] KB24@CL:
I hope they implement something like the SGSII...zoom gestures to switch between tabs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I thought about this too last night. My new thought, have the following buttons on the menu bar, Address Toggle/Back/Forward/Favorites/Tabs. The Address Toggle toggles the menu bar between default menu & the address bar. When address bar is shown, you have the refresh button. I'll create a quick template shortly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Here's the new template;
[Windows Phone 7 General] webwalk®:
sorry dude but all your buttons are not good

people cant find the backwards button, (its the hardware key)

or even the forward button (in sub menu aka right click)

so u think they will ever find out about swiping over the adressbar to make other icons apear?

i would like to pinch out to fullscreen, and if u pinch further, tabs will apear..

also more think of gestures instead of buttons..

touch one finger

double touch one finger

swipe one finger -direction (8 directions minimum)

touch and hold one finger

touch two fingers

double touch two fingers

swipe two fingers -direction

touch and hold one finger

touch three fingers

double touch three fingers

swipe three fingers -direction

touch and hold three finger

etc... lots of unused stuff....

btw, i know you can include ie9 in your apps, so cant your app be there to improove ie9 ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Gestures = Overrated gimmick. A simple single tap beats any swipe/pinch/what ever gesture. I can't count how many times I've let someone use my phone & how unnatural they look trying to swipe. Swipe is good for scrolling, pinch is good for zooming, other than that, they're overrated. A nice gimmick, but still a gimmick.

Secondly, read what I wrote, there's a toggle like the keyboard has the number/letter toggle.

The hardware back button should not be used for in app navigation. The hardware buttons should be static across all screens. Any option that requires more than one simple tap, on the main menu is inefficient (Other than pinch to zoom/swipe scrolling). I don't swipe up for menu, I tap the 3 dots. I don't swipe left & right, I tap on the tab title if available. Far easier than swiping.

Back = Close App/Previous App (The current/Mango use does not fit with the rest of WP7.)

Start = Start Screen (Already Static)

Search = Bing (Fixed in Mango)
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
That many buttons goes against the WP experience

Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
How so, there are apps that have 5 buttons. This is why MS choose icons over text. You can fit more & it looks cleaner. Also, if there is the ability for 5 buttons, than it is within MS's standards. Beside the fact, these are just ideas. Please show me your own ideas?
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
you can't tell him that because now he's gonna block u jaja.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
There has to be a compromise between style and usability. It seems to me that the new design of IE9 in Mango will be less efficient for most people, and these ideas might improve that. At the very least, they help convey the concern that many people have.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Hum could of sworn I saw an app with 5 buttons. I have apps installed with 4 buttons & there's still plenty of room left for a 5th. Besides the fact, do you work for MS's design team or have some inside story on how this goes against WP7's design? I see this response a lot from numerous people & yet they don't work for MS so wonder how you can assume it is indeed against the design plan. No offense, but just wondering.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Dude, where is the "find in this page" Button?! I miss it!
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
What do you mean?
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Before Mango, in the menu, we had a "find in this page" or something like that, that is the "ctrl+f" at desktop browsers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Oh ok, hum, good question. I'll look into it. It seems to be asked quite often now that I am looking into it. I'll let you know if I find anything.

It seems to be removed according to wikipedia;

Also answers.microsoft.com seems to be of no help.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Great. Removing features will definitely make people buy it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Yeah, I don't get that at all. It was there, it worked well, and people have had almost a full year to get used to it being there. It seems very odd that they would pull it out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I'm sure it was just an over sight. I suggest reporting it on some sight MS pays attention to. They must have some kind of feed back sight or something. They may see it here, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
a new thing for u to whine and complain about
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
IE9 is awsome
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Well the most ironic thing is that the hotmail webpage does not work good in IE9... I mean come on, the IOS browser just renders every webpage properly but IE9 still renders a lot of the common visited pages poorly (youtube, mail.live.com, vimeo, outlook webmail sites, apphub) this should change if you want to sell your product to customers. The whole OS is made so every person can use it, yet if it does not work well (even the HTML5 stuff does not really work well for the sites I've tested it on).

The main problem is the dropdown menu buttons. Its nearly impossible to select an option since when they are opening, IE9 detects this as a click and refreshes the page. The rendering is much better than the previous version, but its usebility is still far away from the IOS browser. Unfortunately since I really hope WP7 will become the best OS
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
I have no rendering problems on any of the sites I goto. and on my nephews iTouch I went to YouTube and the scrolling was so choppy and juddery and it couldn't even play an html5 video while I went to it in IE9 the scrolling was smooth as can be and it actually played the video and loaded the page faster and I had my arrive on 3G and his iTouch was on WiFi. so I'd say the usability is superior to that of the iOS browser and I'll have to diagnose ur case as user error.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Im not saying anything about speed, and your comparison is a unique case. Im talking about how it displays websites.... open for example Microsoft Apphub and try to open the forums (from the dropdown menu) or visit any website with dropdown menu's to navigate, these were a problem in the previous browser already and unfortunately still are. And has to do with the way IE9 handles your touch input, try it out please and let me know if it works for you, because here it will just register it as a click on "community".

On youtube it does not render the now playlist bar properly, its in the middle of the screen.

The mail.live.com website also has issues. Vimeo issues are pretty obvious (did not test it on IOS, might just be a bad coded site).
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
as for the drop down menus they have nothing to do with the browser. those are hover over navigation menus and since there is no proper way to hover over something with touch it will register it as a click. I've seen this issue in almost every mobile web browser there is. as for the YouTube now playing, that has to do with the site coding as well. that playlist bar has to adjust relative to the position of the site. since most people are scrolling it has to adjust its position as well.this is on any site that has those bars and I've seen that on every browser as well must not forget that speed and scrolling have everything to do with rendering as well. the mail.live.com site has worked well the 2 times I went there and I dont use vimeo so I don't know.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I understand what you mean, on site with a "hover" menu. Where you "hover" the mouse over a menu to much it appear. As touch is basically programmed as a mouse click & there's no real mouse to "hover" with, any site that uses these menus is almost useless. Not, to mention, most sites use "hover" menus these days.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I feel like i'm using Windows 98 when I enter some sites. Google mobile included.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
ah orále it isn't THAT bad! read the above posts.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Yeah well they can maybe implement something live swiping over a link so it will not register a click but just a mouse over movement, since these menu's are very common on websites. They use this on their own sites where you have to do all your windows phone app submission and statusses as well, while it does not work fully on their own browser.

The office webmail does not work for my university mail. It used to work in the previous browser. Ill check again later, to see if it works, it probably does not offcially support IE9 yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I'm pretty sure that the WinPhone experience only allows 4 buttons on the bottom bar, not 100% sure, but I've been told this numerous times from many people. I've never developed an app, so I'm not entirely sure personally.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lUp:
simple suggestion:

hide everything.

when you hit the back button, the chrome appears. maybe the adressbar on top of the buttons at the bottom, so that everything is in reach.

To go back, simply hit back again. And after 3-5 secs, or when scrolling, the chrome disappears.

simple, intuitive and maximum real estate.
[Windows Phone 7 General] webwalk®:
yea kinda like in office

btw:

the remove of "find on page"

they didnt remove find on page,

they removed the whole browser..

there wasnt ie8 on your nodo..

but now you got ie9 on your mobile..

yes find on page is missing,

thats a bummer, but im sure it will be back..

they just didnt include it yet..
[Windows Phone 7 General] epkfaile:
what could be added is remove the favoites icon and hide it in the pull up menu, and make it so that when u select the url it displays them as suggestions
[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
on uservoice people are piling up votes and complaints regarding the address bar, find in page, landscape view, menus, tabs, favourites and history. And I would like to add: the progress bar.

It was quite a huge disappointment to me. The biggest gripe I had coming from android was the browser, but it was supposed to be a 'placeholder' for ie9, which was meant to be the best mobile browser ever.

Now, ie9 doesn't render correctly half the website I visit and almost never allows to use forms or wp comments boxes. The interface has been borked, features removed... I'm not sure where they are heading with this
[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
Ok, simply ridiculous. IE9 in Mango final has NO "Find on page".

Way to go, morons
[Windows Phone 7 General] hwalker84:
I'm really mad about losing the "Find on Page" feature. Extremely mad.
[Windows Phone 7 General] EDDS:
+1

It's not a feature I was expecting to miss but it is!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] fiinix:
I feel your anger; i use it multiple times a day (1-5x day).

This is just wrong :/

Do the WP7 internal devs never "ctrl+f"???
[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
My idea is that they never fixed the update process, contrary to what they said. So if even mango gets announced in early autumn, most people will get it barely in time for Xmas, if we're lucky.

They know it, and in order to be able to reply to flocks of deceived, angry users "we said it was fall 2011", they rushed mango and sent it now to carriers and OEMs

Eric hautala had the bright idea to say on the blog: you won't know when it comes out, until the very day it comes out. That tells me they're still in trouble with updates and they had to minimize damages by rushing mango to rtm
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
yes and Im also still surprised that the ugly gap between the addressbar and the keyboard is still there when the keyboard collapses. they did not do much refining on IE9 layout in the rtm unfortunately.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trvstw:
I saw a few days ago where someone had replied to another post with a CWM zip to flash Tenfar's recovery from ROM Manager, but I dont remember what thread it was in. Could someone please give me and the community a link? Also, the same thing, but with romracer's CWM, would be great, too.

Sent from my friend's Atrix
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] live4nyy:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trvstw:
Thanks. Didn't notice it... Also, thanks to SolidHelix for making it.

Sent from my friend's Atrix
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lowens175:
srry but can someone tell me if this is romracer and if so do you just download and flash using rom manager
[Verizon Droid Charge] sonu1178490:
Hey guys

Quick question

I'm having an issue downloading certain apps from tthe market

Currently I'm on the latest gummycharged build for GB. When I go into market and try and download certain apps (Ex. Yelp and Xeam Launcher) it doesn't give me a download link. I can view the app in the market but can't download. I tried the Market Fix and I can download the MLB appear but I'm having issues with other.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanka
[Verizon Droid Charge] sonu1178490:
Anyone? Its really annoying that I can't download a whole bunch of apps even though they appear in my market
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Have you tried clearing your market data? Settings->applications->manage->hit the All tab->scroll to Market->Clear Data
[Verizon Droid Charge] sonu1178490:
Just tried that and it didn't work.

I'm going to also upload a pic of what the market looks like when I'm trying to download certain apps

edit:

added picture --> if you notice, there is no download link!
[HTC EVO 3D] Tyie101:
Anyone having issues with Drocap taking pics strictly with a blood red tinge to it? I've tried several roms from vipers to supra and steel with no luck. I am just looking for a solution because I haven't found one yet. Thanks in advance.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
That's a setting you have to uncheck in drocap
[HTC EVO 3D] Tyie101:
Hrmm that simple eh? Going to check it now
[HTC EVO 3D] Tyie101:
No luck. I have tried every possible combination of capture mode, pic format, and Swap endian just too have another red tinge pic. I'm stumped.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tyie101:
For future reference Screenshot It Trial worked just fine and is the only one that worked for me. I will definitely buy this app.
[HTC EVO 3D] iliapiano:
I am sorry to start another topic about 3g but this issue has been bothering me for a while. after i rooted my phone i started getting inconsistent 3g speeds one speed test would show 700kb one minute later 50kb while upload speed is almost always fine, my ping is a little higher than usual but it's ok 100-350. any way to test the radio in the phone. another thing i notices is the signal jumps, 1-3-4 bars, but it always used to jump around.

Sometimes my upload speed is higher than my download. wth
[HTC EVO 3D] derek826:
I am also having this problem most of the time nothing ever even loads up on 3g. 4g works fine tho.
[HTC EVO 3D] 2k4mach:
get open signal maps from the market. id almost bet your phone is jumping towers. mine does that at the house since im basically in the overlap of 5 towers. 3 of the towers my phone jumps around to have terrible data speeds while the 2 furthest from me have great data speeds lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] GadgetMonger:
Same here. Before root it was fine. After root download speeds crapped out on me, and a bunch of other smaller issues popped up as well including inconsistent gps lock. Tried several roms and wipes, data profile updates and ##3282# resets. Also called Sprint and had them try refreshing my phone. No go. Had to get a replacement. All is good now... I'm hesitant to root again until I can find out a bit more because whatever happened seemed to be irreversible...
[HTC EVO 3D] iliapiano:
Thank you I think you are right, us there a way to make it so it doesn't connectto a certaintower
[HTC EVO 3D] 2k4mach:
not that i know of, i wish there was since it never fails that mine wants to kind of hang on the 3 that are in dire need of more capacity.
[HTC EVO 3D] iliapiano:
Anyone is there a way to test the radio on this phone (besides taking it to sprint)
[HTC Sensation] offenberg:
I have been searching this forum for a stock unthemed Rosie.apk with 5x5 app drawer, but couldn´t find one. So I made one for myself, and wanted to share.

What I did: I took the Rosie from Coredroid and changed the themed PNGs to the stock ones.

So credits to Sergio76 and Coredroid team for this ROM http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1195902

To install:

I always use Root Explorer to push to system/app, set permissions and reboot. Remember to make a copy of your original Rosie.apk

It is also a good idea to install another launcher from market, just in case something goes wrong. It would be hard to fix without a working launcher.

This is tested running ARHD, but it should work on every custom sense rom. But not stock odexed ROM.

Regards

Dont forget to hit thanks button
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
yeah, i fully recommend a different launcher, doesnt seem to work with sense :( tried it every which way, but no dice
[HTC Sensation] offenberg:
Are you getting force close or what is happening? Working fine here.

Edit: it doensnt work if your on stock rom. This apk is optimized in a lot of ways. The org rosie apk is over 12 mb.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
im running my scrubbed stock TMOUS rom, appears to not launch rosie and stays on the last frame of my bootanimation...screen powers on and off, soft keys light up...but refuses to proceede...

what are the permissions you set?

i did the usual:

User: R/W, not E

Group: R only

Others: R only

EDIT: haha im thinking the rom must be deodexed for this to work, hence the need for a custom rom :/ lemme kno the permissions, and ill check it out.

i have TONS of apps, and 5x5 would be pretty sweet :P
[HTC Sensation] mexxxico:
This would have been much more interesting to see.

I know, the other launchers have that option (4x5), but it would be nice to see it on Sense interface.
[HTC Sensation] colthekid:
+1 for that... a 4x5 or even 5x5 homescreen would be just great.

:)
[HTC Sensation] benko286:
+2 for this, I would really love 5x5 grid on homescreen
[HTC Sensation] CHNcys:
+3 for this.

and it's considerate to post a tutorial about that. because some guys may like 4x5 homescreen (like me), and others may like 5x5 homescreen.

and amazing work , man .THX
[HTC Sensation] suhaimidee:
I'm running ARHD 1.1.5 but could not push it via es explorer, setting permissions had changed but it stated fail. What did I just did?

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e