yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] mystikal87:
Thanks

Thanks for your support rmk. I've used this on my wife's G2 and I must say that it sure does come in handy. I haven't seen anyone take this on and I honestly believe it could do us some good for this and other devices. Mind if I take a crack at it ?
[HTC Sensation] jonata:
good morning,

quote myself ...

anyone can help me to find ril for my radio ?

Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3

tks
[HTC Sensation] kira168:
Hi All

Just have a question.

I have the Aussie Telstra NextG Version of the Sensation (Z710a) and had a look at the stock radio which is 10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3 but interestingly the corresponding stock RIL is HTC-RIL 2.2.0159HMQ.

From the first post the RIL for that radio should be

HTC-RIL 2.2.0162HMQ and not 0159HMQ, any ideas why this may be the case

Should I replace the stock 0159 RIL to the 0162 RIL to match? or leave as is

Any help would be appreciated
[HTC Sensation] navillos:
From the 1.28.707.2 RUU:

10.43.9007.00P_10.11.9007.19

md5: 13a111f7e9b7f5d59d119c75c7fb9627

What about this radio I cant seem to find out which RIL will work with this one.
[HTC Sensation] k.aalai:
Im new to this RIL etc biz too, Im confused, so some questions:

Is is an absolute neccesity to flash a RIL? ie do i need to change radio/ril everytime i try a new rom? Do I need a RIL everytime I flash a new radio?

Is this a particular thing for tmob US or all regions/networks? Im on Orange UK.

If I flash a rom, then go back to my old rom via a nandroid backup, which RIL would i be left with?

Im asking since i had a bit of issue when flashing a rom and losing 3g connectivity, with the new rom, and even when the old backup when restored. It was probably an unlucky coincidence of the local cell going down, but want to be sure.
[HTC Sensation] d3vilskid:
here is the tmous 2.3.4 update. not sure if radio and ril is different.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1225753

credit goes to the amorek13 for posting it
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
You would need to tell us that. Some people like myself have seen an increase from 11.72, but some people have gotten better results from the 11.69A radio.
[HTC Sensation] MattyEL:
Thank you for your response. I did notice the dish tweaks but was confused about this. Is it a file that I flash or a file that I need to edit?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
It is both. There is a firmware partition to flash through bootloader, and you need to edit the ro.ril.hspxa value in the build.prop file to match. Here are more details.
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
I am using 11.72 + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH3 right now. in SF at my house, it's definitely faster than what I had before (don't know what I had). Now I get 10mbps down and 3.5mbps up. However, One consistent thing I noticed is that the signal would go out sometimes, for a second or two. then full bars again. happens to me several times today
[HTC Sensation] MattyEL:
Same thing happens to me. I'm hoping they can just add these fixes to cm9 soon. :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] McLongDong:
So in order to use this updated DisH2, we have to edit the build.prop for every ROM we are on?
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
You don't need to edit every one. You need to check it and edit if necessary. If I'm not mistaken, the 3.32 based roms are already set for dish 2 in the build.prop unless the maker has edited it.

ARHD (for example) has the standard value of "2" near the top, but he then has it set to change to "3" in his tweaks...
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I think the last value wins so in this situation the final value would be 3.
[HTC Sensation] McLongDong:
What is this "3" in his tweaks? Though I guess I shouldn't worry because I am assuming ARHD only does that. From reading people's post and comments regarding ril/radio, having 11.72.3504.00U_11.23.3504.08_M2 with 4.0.24 ril and DisH3 gives the best result. What about the new radio 11.69A.3504.00_11.23.3504.07_M2 with ril 4.0.0.14 with the new DisH2?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
People have reported varying results so far. My fastest results were with 11.72 and 4.0.0.0024RIL and DisH3. Other people have said that 11.69A plus 4.0.0.0024 and the new DisH2 file gave them better results. 11.69A is not a new radio, we already had it. I was really hoping for a new radio for the US region, but unfortunately we did not get one.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
Exactly!!

I could enter "ro.ril.hsxpa=2" in the build prop 100 times, but if there's one below those that says "3" then it wins.

"3" is the value he inserts for ro.ril.hsxpa.

I'm sorry if I was not clear enough. The build.prop needs to be edited to match the dish you're using. mike1986 has added a setting in his build.prop tweaks that overrides the original value, changing that value from 2 to 3.

This is why you have to look for double entries in any build.prop and change them both to what you want. If you just change the first then another one towards the bottom may just override what you've entered...
[HTC Sensation] McLongDong:
Alrighty!

---------- Post added at 06:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:31 PM ----------

Darn it! Thanks for the info.
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
From the 3.32.1400.112 HTCCN OTA

Dev-Host: 11.72.3504.00U_11.23.3504.08_M2

Dropbox: 11.72.3504.00U_11.23.3504.08_M2

PG58IMG.zip MD5: 80D8540A6D8C6A68D414B807A5819988

radio.img MD5: C022B0E795D4A519B7436CB3E7A07C49

HTC-RIL 4.0.0024HMQ

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

hi..im planning to flash the above radio and ril, can i flash this dorectly from recovery?sorry for the noob question..

thanks!
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
just to confirm, are you saying that the problem of signaling going in and out originates from cm9?

I am on opensensation. Before I flash the new radio/ril/dish3, i didn't get the signal problem. it happened after I flashed them

Just want to clarify what you mean by "same thing happens to me".. you talking about the speed boost, or the signal drop?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
The radio has to be flashed through bootloader, the RIL gets flashed through recovery. No worries, we were all noobs once.
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
How do I find out what version of dish I should be using?

I have flashed the 11.69 radio.img via fastboot, with the matching RIL applied as a zip.

Using ARHD so it has the build prop set it to 2 early in the file, then overrides to 3 later in the file.

I've never flashed a rcdata.img file.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Different people have reported different results, so the best way is to try both and see for yourself. At least one of the DisH files came in an RUU, and the others were in OTAs, so it is probable that you do have one or the other already. I don't have a good way to tell unfortunately.
[HTC Sensation] ahassouna:
Dude are u using ordroid sense 4? If so can u post results after flashing pls
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
Yup. I tried this radio and ril but my signal went down. I'm from the Philippines so I'm not sure if this will have the same effect for you. I'll stick with the radio and ril below.

Dev-Host: 11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M

Dropbox: 11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M

PG58IMG.zip MD5: 9287423b7870d6fae3e812e20f2cbb7f

radio.img MD5: 833a9ece6c63f0237f34ddde99961910

HTC-RIL 4.0.0013HMQ - h/t Omar302
[HTC Sensation] ahassouna:
Ok am getting extremely low speeds on newest radio + RIL.

Can't stream anything. Any help pls?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Try a different radio and/or RIL from the first post.
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
before i switch to ICS my signal is much better.. is it safe to flash radio and ril of gb over ics? thanks!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Unfortunately that is a common statement I have heard around here. My testing showed that did not work well. I would stick with ICS radios/RILs for ICS ROMs. With the latest 11.72 radio/4.0.0.0024 RIL and the DisH3 TMO update file, I am now back to the transfer speeds I was at before using GB.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Latest radio works ok for me, latest ril however increased battery drain dramatically, but it did improve transfer speeds and lowered ping. Battery is a bit more important to me.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
So did you go back to 4.0.0.0017?
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
Thank you. I'll juat flash the latest radio and ril..
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
If that one doesn't give you good results, then try another one. :D No harm to try each of the ICS radios/RILs until you find one that works well for you.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
No mf, I'm on 013 which came with the ROM.
[HTC Sensation] StuartTheFish:
Hi mate, just wondering how you got on? Did you get chance to find which works best for you?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Really? You are the first to post that RIL with the latest radio that I recall seeing. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
So am I and finding same results better battery life, also better reception for me too.
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
just checked. i also have the same combination. I'll try the latest ril and let you know.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Do either of you happen to know what DisH version update you are on? Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
hmmn.. I'm not a tmous user, so I'm not sure what DisH version I'm on.. how to check?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
No idea what Dish is. It's of 3.32 latest ruu iirc.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Here is the link with more details and file links. Basically it is an extra firmware partition that has been included in various RUUs/OTAs from different carriers. It is probable that you do have something there, but I am not sure how to check it, other than to edit the ro.ril.hspxa=x value(s) in the build.prop file as the link above describes.
[HTC Sensation] vernon092487:
i checked using the build.prop editor. from rom toolbox for hspxa and the value is 3.. currently using DarkForest rom.. hope it helps..
[HTC Sensation] McLongDong:
I edited the buildprop to match DisH2 I am using but did it change permissions? Just to double check, can you tell me the permissions set with buildprop? Thanks
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
What I meant is that the only way I can think of to verify which DisH partition you may have flashed is to change the ro.ril.hspxa=x value to either 2 or 3, then test your data speeds. It the values match, faster transfer rates and better coverage seem to follow. If they don't match, then it is worse.

My build.prop is set to rw- rw- rw-
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
OK, just finished the first round of testing, and the 11.72 radio can be used with ANY of the available ICS RILs, and with either the DisH3 or newest DisH2 updates. I did not test with the older DisH2 update.

11.72 + 4.0.0.0003 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0003 + DisH3 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0012 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0012 + DisH3 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0013 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0013 + DisH3 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH3 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH2 = can work

11.72 + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH3 = can work (best for me in the Vegas area so far)

Additionally, I have also tested a bit with the 11.69A radio and these combinations work as well.

11.69A + 4.0.0.0003 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0003 + DisH3 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0012 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0012 + DisH3 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0013 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0013 + DisH3 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0017 + DisH3 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH2 = can work

11.69A + 4.0.0.0024 + DisH3 = can work

I have to charge up for a bit now due to constant flashing and rebooting and flashing, but I will update more later. Based on this result however, I am going to go out on a short limb and state that I believe the other 3 ICS radios will also be interchangeable for the most part at least.
[HTC Sensation] rorycs:
Hi, I am afraid to say that I'm really confused with radio and RIL.

What is the Stock Radio/RIL which was packaged with the TMOUS ICS RUU? Is this the same Radio/RIL that is in the TMOUS ICS OTA? Are these the same as the Radio/RIL included in the flashable firmware thread for TMOUS in this section? How do you determine the correct Dish value? What is the Dish value for the TMOUS RUU and OTA and are they the same?

Thanks for your patience with me and for your response!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
The radio is like a firmware in Windows terms, and the RIL is like a driver. You need both for the system to work.

The 11.69A radio/4.0.0.0024 RIL came with the TMOUS ICS RUU.

It is the same as the OTA.

The radio/RIL in the flashable firmware thread is the same as the ones available in this thread.

There is not a "correct" DisH value, any of the DisH files can be flashed with a corresponding change of the ro.ril.hspxa= value in the build.prop file, YMMV.

There are three different DisH files now, DisH3 came in the 1.4.5 RUU, the first DisH2 file came in the 1.50 OTA, and the newest DisH2 file came in the TMO ICS update.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I just updated all the ICS radio packages with wildcard CIDs, so it should be easier to flash without changing to superCID. If anyone has an issue flashing a radio for incorrect CID, please let me know.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
I'm going to throw a wrench in the gears... Although the TMOUS firmware comes with a dish 2 rcdata.img, the build.prop is set to ro.ril.hsxpa=3. I don't know what they were doing all this time, but it appears that everything is mismatched...

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
It is not mismatched. In build.prop, the top most definition takes precedence. I'm not sure why there's the #pyramid RF team request below. If you take apart an Amaze RUU and check its build.prop and rcdata, you'll see the top definition for ro.ril.hsxpa is 4, and yet it also has the pyramid RF team request further down that's set to 3.

What I'm curious about is why ro.ril.enable.dtm is set to 0. TMO should support a voice call and EDGE at the same time. But having that setting to 0, it kills data when in a voice call.
[HTC Sensation] GROGG88:
It's the other way around... The last one will win the battle.

Regardless, looking at the TMO build.prop and it's a mess!
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
You would expect that, but it is the top most one.
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
Also always thought it was the top one...
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I always assumed it was the last one since that is how most similar files on the computer work. Never really tested it though.
[HTC Sensation] hinxnz:
It seems to me that its using the first one '2' and not the second '3'. This is how I have it set. Also do you or anyone know if the settings.apk needs to be paired when testing radio/RIL or in different combinations. Has anyone decompiled setting.apk to see if there is a relation?

And does anyone know what the U and P mean?
[HTC Sensation] marseillesw:
So what should we change it to when we edit it?

Sent from my Sensation using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[HTC Sensation] montez.061-:
I'm not quite sure how to change my DISH... Before you say it.... I have read it over and over again, sometimes things just don't stick. Any help?? I already have flashed a new radio and ril but this part is something I just don't get.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Never decompiled settings.apk and I don't recall ever reading anything that would make me think it is linked or related the radio or RIL. It could be, but I have never seen it mentioned before.

The "U" or sometimes "P" is for your carrier I believe.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
It is an extra firmware partition that you flash through bootloader using the PG58IMG.zip file. Then you edit the ro.ril.hspxa setting(s) in the build.prop file to match and you should be good to go.
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
e

Is there any way to check what version of dish I have right now?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Unfortunately I don't know a quick and easy way to check it. The only way I can think is to set the ro.ril.hspxa value in the build.prop file to either 2 or 3, reboot, and test your data speeds. If it matches, from most prior reports, speed should be faster. However, I have gotten PM's from someone indicating they were not matched and he did not see a difference, so YMMV.
[HTC Sensation] skiernerd:
Tracking your radio/ril/dish results

hey just had 2 quickies...

is there a program that can track and average you db signal so i can compare results from radio/ril/dish tweeks...?

all of them seem to be very fast download speeds but certain areas of my house i get a very low signal and i wanted to leave the phone there so i can look at the averages and see which one seems to receive the best signal there.

also which one has more to do with the obtaining signal strength...radio or dish both or neither lol?

Using the newest radio and CM9 I find more slightly more battery drain with RIL 13 than RIL 24 and no signal difference. I think CM9 comes with 13 so u have to flash it yourself.

thanks yall
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Haven't seen an app for that but it would sure be useful.

I think the radio has more to do with the signal strength than the dish file. I still need to test 11.65 and 11.68 with all the RILs, 11.69 with the newer DisH2 version, and the older DisH2 across everything just with a quick test to see if it is capable of multimeg download speeds. I am confident they are going to work though.

I will try to do more extensive testing over time and see if some combinations work better for battery usage.
[HTC Sensation] MultiCulti:
Morning guys :D

So, don't see the RIL version on first post ... But seems to be the latest?

Ahm ... I don't need to change it, or?

Gesendet von meinem Sensation mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Hadn't seen that one yet, which ROM are you running? Also, good morning. :D I don't guess I would change it unless you are getting bad signal. But I would sure like to know where you got it from and if I can get it too. :D
[HTC Sensation] MultiCulti:
First i flashed the OTA Update from GB to ICS ... and now i´m on OrDroid 7.1.1 ... so, not sure where it was included! :D
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
thanks, I would guess OrDroid as the most likely source there. What radio are you using?
[HTC Sensation] MultiCulti:
Gesendet von meinem Sensation mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Thank you, very interesting. I just got OrDroid downloaded, too late for me tonight but I will make a RIL package tomorrow and check it out. If the RILs work, I wonder if the radios might too. Could be good for us Sensation users. :D
[HTC Sensation] MultiCulti:
But the Radio i use, i got from a android-hilfe.de forum!

so it´s not the one i got with the OTA or OrDroid!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
By the version number, it is one we have had for a few weeks now.
[HTC Sensation] AntiSyrum:
does any have simple mobile here in Florida that could suggest a good radio and ril
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
New RIL from the Ville!

4.0.0035. Tested with 11.72, 11.69A, DisH3, new DisH2. Worked decently, as always YMMV.

Update: Moved to Dev-Host to save some space on the XDA servers.

HTC-RIL_4.0.0035HMQ.zip
[HTC Sensation] framir:
Excuse me,

I'm a bit confused... I live in Italia, witch rom and ril is right for me?

Thank you so much! :D
[HTC Sensation] l2icky:
I am doing a battery test at the moment, but when I am done, I will flash the new Dish2, change the build.prop and run some tests. The bad part of only being in 2G area helps when it comes to speed tests. Stock was 15-30KPS. Working with different ones, I've managed to get 150-170KPS. I'll report after I run my tests tomorrow.
[HTC Sensation] Aldosry:
hello

i have been having short battery life when the wifi is on since upgrading the latest version of my ROM and i think changing the radio might help with that

i dont have a data plan and only use "and care about" wifi, which radio would be best for me ?

if it might help i'm in the middle east and use Android Revolution HD 6.6.4
[HTC Sensation] Alganon:
The ROM I'm using right now has excactly this RIL and I'm having no signal in places where I had signal before... My current Radio is the one that came with the firest 3.32 Firmeware.

Now I'm wondering which Radio to use with this RIL since @ first page there is no matching Radio...

Will there be a new Radio soon or can soneone usggest a radio for this RIL?
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
No new radio I am aware of yet. There is enough variation in the electronics of your phone and in the cell towers to make it impossible to predict which combination is "best". The only way to know for sure is to try various combinations of radio, RIL, and DisH update and see what works best.

The latest radio/RIL/DisH file(s) are not always the best for your phone in your region of the world.

So far between the ICS radios and RIL's and the 3 DisH files, I have not seen any completely unworkable combinations. Every combination I have tried so far has worked to give me a relatively low ping time and a download above 2 mbps. I did not test long with any of them, I will go back later and do that.
[HTC Sensation] el7145:
First off, this is probably one of the most useful threads ive come across, and im finally getting my head around all this radio, dish, ril stuff, and im ready to start experimenting with radios and dishes.

I have just a few questions

1)The radio img file contains the dish, correct? For example, the 11.72 contains dish3, which i can confirm in the build.prop

2)Does the radio img also contain the Ril's that is matched to it?

3)Lastly, Im on the tmobile 3.32.501 firmware, as long as im supercid, am I free to run any ICS radio?

Thanks for the help
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
1. dish settings are in rcdata and build.prop. modify rcdata as you see fit and flash with fastboot.

2. no, ril is separate

3. yes, you are free to run any radio if supercid.
[HTC Sensation] Sindroid:
does anybody know where to get

11.69.3504.00P_11.22.3504.07_M

and the RIL to go with it?
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
THE ORIGINAL POST OF THIS THREAD. :( :rolleyes:

mf2112, just to confirm again, the radio is the first thing to load, before the bootloader, right?
[HTC Sensation] el7145:
thanks for the quick answer, i dont understand your answer to the 1st question though...im not sure if that was a yes or no. I dont see an rcdata file in the radio img zip file, but when i flashed the 11.72 radio, my build.prop changed to dish 3...so im still kinda confused
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Thanks for checking on the thread, unfortunately work is demanding more and more of my time during the day. :mad: Fortunately there are very helpful people here on XDA. :D

It doesn't seem to make a difference in my testing which one gets loaded first, either the radio or the RIL can be done first and the other second, as long as they end up right. I have been pulling the battery for a few seconds after flashing the radio however, as it seems that a simple reboot is not allowing it to work fully. Although it could be that I am not patient enough. :D
[HTC Sensation] ziddey:
I meant in regards to what happens with a bad flash. If the radio is loaded before the bootloader, a bad radio flash would effectively brick the phone.

I'm still so tempted to try the Ville radio or similar with hopes of hspa+ 21.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
Ahhh, I gotcha. I am not positive from personal knowledge, but some posted here a few days ago that the radio loaded first bit didn't say how he was checking it. To me it makes more sense for bootloader to load first since it is the bootloader.

I haven't seen a new radio from the Ville. I grabbed the Ordroid ROM based on that RUU when someone a few posts ago mentioned the new RIL but they were using 11.69A with it.

Just went back and checked and there is a radio in the original RUU from the Ville, but frankly I am not brave enough to flash it on my only Sensation since I could not replace it. ;)

Also, I went back to the 4.0.0024 RIL as it seemed my battery was draining faster with the 4.0.0035 RIL. I left it on 4G more today than normal though so that might have done it as well. Hard to say for sure. It does work however. Not as fast for me as the earlier ones, but YMMV.