yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
yep sure, it will burn your car :D

Magldr simply is an OS witch can load other OS.. it has his kernel etc etc.. So, you could unplug cable when phone is flashing magldr, it's only a "copy" of the data into NAND SD

you can't unplug cable when you're flashing ROM RADIO, and SPL, in that case phone freezes, and, i think it's definitely dead, or you can try to reput SPL files in ROM memory via htc's serial cable, sure, not with USB cable

So, Magldr is the same as Windows Mobile, you install it by using the same method, by HSPL, as you do with Windows Mobile, and, if you unplug cable when you're uploading original Windows Mobile, phone will boot in SPL, but not in WM (because you don't have files in the NAND ROM)

i hope you'll understand what's the difference between OS and SPL.. thus.. what is magldr

who has problems?

the only issue in 1.13 is the charging mode, you can't charge phone when it's offiine, magldr freezes and (in 1.13 reboots, in 1.12 freeze phone), i think it happens because magldr doesen't have the right "libreries" witch can "load" the charging process, if you see, in all phones, when you plug the carging cable, phone will load something.. in nokia, phones boots and you see the charging icon in the screen, in htc phone boots and you see the led indicator, so, in chargin mode, phone's hardware is on, it's 'configuring' the right way to charge battery (that's not so simply)

other issues? i have WP7, and i didn't have problems with all WP7 rom i tryed, with android roms too, i think you could have a broken HD2, or a tmobile version (you have to upgrade the certify android tmobile version rom).. if you can't flash android or wp7 roms by magldr, i think you don't have the right driver in windows, so windows (pc) can't talk with hd2

if you have problems, write here
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] j4n87:
What kind of issues u are talking about?

in most cases the user is the problem and not the software (:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
This is not a statement on my part but I've read about this and i am now unsure.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
what exactly have you read?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Thats magldr brick hd2 because a dirty code for activated rmnet.

Dirty code from hd desire and this maybe on the fly write this in the Radio ROM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
maybe they have a brocken hd2, or a driver conflict in windows (pc)

if you can flash wm6.5 roms with hspl 2.08 you can load magldr. if you don't have hspl 2.08 you can't load hspl (and cooked roms)

i think users has problems, not phones
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
:confused:

where do you read this?

i never ever heard it

i reflashed magldr for about 30 times.. no one problem.. and i'm using it by the first 1.10 version

EDIT: maybe that users downloads magldr not in this forum, and maybe someone modifies magldr.nbh files with an haked radio witch has the malware
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Cotulla has open my eyes and now i see the world clearer. :D

He is very cool. Thanks Master Cotulla.

Maybe he write down the facts about magldr and clk.

No danger of both.

There were just rumors.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] beston94:
Its really dangerous!! Im serious!!! IF you flash it then you device will explode!!!!!

...

Its safe :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
You only makes fun of me. :D

I only readed this. No more.

You use magldr or clk? Hmmmmm??? ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ty5982:
ive had my hd2 for nearly 18 months and was new to all this lol

i remember the days when i had android on my sd card and everytime u rebooted,it went back to windows mobile lol. then 1 day i saw on youtube a lad puttin a cyanogen mod rom on via cwm and magldr.........I WET MYSELF lol and av never looked back. yeh,i **** myself 1st time cos i to worried about brickin my phone. but all U AV TO DO is follow all the instructions EXACTLY as they say and u won't brick ur phone.your best and safest option is to search rootin hd2 on youtube,download all there files in the link and also most videos show them doin it,so follow it step by step,pausin the video as u go along(makes it easier) then ur laughin,u need any help inbox me and i'll even find u the video/person i watched and learned from,magldr is spot on,then u'll step up to cwm lol,i av cos its abit more straight forward,u just put the file on ur sd card and install via cwm,it extracts and installs for u,simple............hope this convinces u lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
I have no problem with flashing but another users have many problems and also 2-4-8 Weeks/Month after flashing. 3 reboots and.....crash...nothing more.

And now? What is the reason? No Hardreset...nothing help...Upsssss....:eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LaneyEFC:
i also want to know where you have read this, post the site... ive not once had a problem with magldr and have used it almost since release ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
And now this....Klick.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ty5982:
giv it a try,then reep u rewards
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
And now? Silent!

No dirty code in magldr?

Haaaa.....Explanation please.......:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kypeth:
Two things, I understand your awareness of the sudden influx of bad block information, but dear God man please use some contextual syntax so that people better understand you. One sentence or phrase that fully describes your thoughts in your opinion isn't necessarily the proper way to communicate clearly to other people.

Bad blocks people, OP is talking about bad blocks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nixda99:
The OP means probably this german thread.

There is somebody who repair 10-15 handys/week with a riff box and he has discovered more irreparable HD2's in the last time.

All defect HD2's had Android and Magdlr and all had 3 erase errors on different addresses (Post 11).

They suspect in the thread the reason is the Desire rmnet injection of Magdlr at every boot, because some HD2 had the errors, who didn't flash a new rom in the last time.

I don't know what I should believe, but I switched to CLK till the real reason is found.

Cotulla: Is it correct that the rmnet part of the Desire radio is flashed at every boot or is it load only to memory?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] seadersn:
hi :)

the strange thing is, it's always the radio area, which contains 3 defective blocks which aren't recoverable and are preventing the ability to flash a new radio rom :( if they are @ the same adresses...? i don't know, but this info may come at later point (i've requested it from bassmc). sdcard flash method with full rom (or only radio rom itself) isn't working in this case, it always shows errors in radio area (RSA RADIO fail). yep, and all of these devices were flashed with the nice loader, which is able to offer rmnet connection :o.

no offense, pls! and also no flamewar between clk / magldr or the persons which programmed it, of course. but the "onthefly desire radio details" were found in clk thread, there are two more posts, which are causing "strange thougths" for some people:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10536523&highlight=cotulla#post10536523 and

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10534453&highlight=dangerous#post10534453

it surely would be more than nice to see this cleared :) after reading these posts again, it sounds, that cotulla for a short time thought about the possibility to do this, but didn't implement it really in magldr. i don't know what to think :confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nixda99:
He said it in Post 11, it is not alwasy the same address.

Implement what in Magdlr?

If I decide to use only Android, the best way should be 1 radio flash with the rmnet addition, not at every boot. But probably Cotulla did it already and this users switched often between W7 (PPP) and Android (Rmnet).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] beston94:
I use clk because it makes the whole android experience more real on my htc hd2 :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Hihi...clk...Are you scared? :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] longy92:
This has all given me doubts now lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slbenz:
As Cotulla said, I have been using MAGLDR since it first came out and have had no problems with it. I do not overclock and don't see the need for it for me. I have flashed several different ROMs since having MAGLDR and any problems I experienced was due to my errors loading the ROMs improperly. I think these "repair centers" just are guessing and have no clue as to the real problem. I suspect that there are many more HD2s using MAGLDR than cLK so by percentage, if an HD2 were to go wrong, the repair center will probably more than likely find an HD2 with Android loaded via MAGLDR.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Thanks for your statment cotulla and thanks for your many pm's for me.

Edit:

Cotulla, send us the magldr source code please.......:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wearefree:
Same here. Been using magldr since janurary and never had any issues. HD2 works like a real android phone because of that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
do you want to modify it and brick you phone? :D:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
but the right question is:

Cotulla, for how many time do you think to upgrade this magldr? HD2 is an old phone, and it isn't immortal, so, there will be a time when peoples put it in the box
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
No but i will maglder modify for winmobile 8 in 3D :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cotulla:
I have no plans to move to other device for now.

Because I know LEO very good, so it's good device for the next projects and I hope RAM size will be still enough.

As well new device are more complex and to find right ways there may need time ;)

Other thing that LEO community is very large, there only two types of LEO. Not like with other devices :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tobiascrystal:
Cotulla, I am so happy to hear that you plan to stick with us for a while longer at least! I have been enjoying your work since the week after I bought my phone ( I had no idea that phones were even able to be modded until I found this great site called XDA) and from that day on you and all of the other great developers have kept me in the same phone for longer than I ever have been before!

Just one question, whats next? Anything special we can be looking forward to?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
thank you for your answer but, other phones needs a magldr? :confused:

if you want a wp7 you can buy an hd7/optimus 7/omnia7/etc etc etc

if you want android, you can buy sensation/gs2/etc etc etc

hd2 was the first 4,3" innovative phone of this new generation, so, it's normally peoples like you spent his time to get access to other OS

for other phones, who want wp7 on gs2/sensation? who want android on hd7? :confused:

ok, double OS is cool, but, you can use one OS, so.. in my situation, i used android because it has a faster web rendering than WM6.5 (with opera) and now, i'm using wp7 for the same reason. I don't have dual boot in my hd2, and i don't want it.

maybe, if i could have a pure and bugless wp7 in my hd2, i will not buy the htc eternity ;)

sure,

thank you for your great work!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] robrob777:
no problems, using it since day 1. I believe Dec 31 '10
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] beston94:
Of course i am :/ I dont want my device to explode.....

Agree with me?? VOTE FOR AGAINST HTC HD2 ABUSE!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ayopancheezy:
i've been using MagLDR for some time to boot up my NAND Android CM7 Rom. Never had a problem with anything whatsoever.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
I'm offended, please, owning another device doesn't mean all other "peoples" do.

And it is not happening today or tomorrow that people will put their phones in their boxes, at least not yet. You can't just say "Cotulla, stop developing for Leo and get a whatever you call" .. He develops for whatever he wants.

Magldr will be available to other phones when he (Cotulla) decides so, not when you decide !

I hope that MAGLDR v 5.76 comes out as soon as possible And

only for the HTC HD2 (a.k.a Leo)

, :rolleyes:

Thanks Cotulla :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ph03n!x:
@cotulla - Thanks a lot for all your work in making the HD2 what it is today. If I may, I have two items in my wishlist for the next version of Magldr-

1. Charging when the phone is off

2. A splash screen to cover the boot text, giving the phone a "stock-like" feel.

On a side note, how treu is the Magldr-Tetris "easter egg"?? :)

About the discussion in this thread, Magldr has proved itself over time. I have used for a long time too. I don't think @cotulla need to explain or substantiate Magldr to anyone. If someone has doubts, you have your options.

Note: I am on cLK not because I fear Magldr will damage my phone. It is for the two reasons I have asked in my wishlist for the next version of Magldr...

EDIT: Just saw this! Thanks @cotulla!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] iba21:
:confused:

are you s.... ? (superman :D)

i never ever said what you say.. ;)

i said there will be a time when all peoples put his hd2 in the box, and in that period, magldr or clk became unusefull

sure, the consept is: when you could have the same thing free, why pay?

the real situation is, IF cotulla or clk didn't create his boot loader, you COULDN'T load android (or wp7), so, do you want android? buy an android phone!

but, you can have a FREE android phone, why spend more money?

I want wp7, and i have an hd2, i know, hd7 is hardware simillary to hd2, so, why i have to spend more money to buy the same phone with a working wp7 if i can have a real wp7 in my hd2 for free?

when cotulla decides to leave the hd2 geeking, maybe i'll leave the hd2 in the box, because, i need the wp7 upgrades

this is the situation

i never ever said what you are saying

and Cotulla can do what he want, i'm tankfully for his free great work

so, in future, if i'll buy the htc eternity, i'll buy it only for his special own hardware and software, so, it will be not necessary to hack system, or create a double boot loader

i need it in hd2 because for me wm6.5 is too restrictive for the hd2 hardware

hd2 is in a bad situation, it has a new hardware conception, and an hold software, it's the same if you buy an intel i7 and you install windows XP, or 98

do you understand?

and, sure, cotulla, you have to do what i say, or i'll call your parents and they scold you... eh eh eh :D (don't know if scold is the right word.. :confused:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
That USED to be in MAGLDR. Download the first MAGLDR and go to the Services menu and you'll see what I mean. I have no clue as to why it was removed from future versions.

Edit: I had used it before and now it's gone. Maybe it's that Tetris unlockable.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cedesmith:
my 2 cents

Hi.

Please keep in mind that things i remember may not be 100% accurate and i did not look at the forums reporting the problem and/or calculate block addresses on nand to see if they fall in last 24mb or nand.

CLK has a feature to dump spl log, i made that to see why spl erases last 24mb of nand. From what i remember from watching that logs the following happen:

- spl erases last 24mb on every cold boot and after flashing (boot reason 1).

- when someone flashes something(bootloader, rom, radio, or any other nbh) radio is copied to last 24mb nand as backup probably to be able to recover in case something happens during radio write. I assume if bad blocks in last 24mb flash stops and that is causing bricks. HTC probably never expected bad blocks in that region because is not used a lot.

Blaming magldr rmnet code for that is silly, probably last 24mb was used as cache in android causing a erase/write on every reboot and quickly wearing nand blocks. Wear on cache will be far greater then the one on system or data since spl erase also erases yaffs wear leveling data.

If there are reports of this problem only on magldr is probably because you can not (as far as i know) use last 24mb as cache with clk. Now remember spl will erase that memory on clk too but i am guessing (because wear endurance is in write cycles) that erasing a erased block will cause less wear (or maybe none?).

If you are scared by this and if you would ask me i would recommend using magldr with option use last 24mb active so spl will not erase them on each boot and with a rom that not use last 24mb.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Thanks for your statemant.

But how can i using this?

Is this an option in magldr?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
What do you mean! DANGEROUS? Magldr is a Harmless software. It will not kill you nor burn your car and house! My personal favorite is MAGLDR.. I hate CLK...It's too scary for me! LOL! :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Thats really nice qualified answer. Big thanks. :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] seadersn:
@ cotulla: "no offense" was meant from me to you and cede respective all the users which may contribute in this discussion :D

and during time i believe, too, that magldr isn't responsible for bricks / defective blocks in radio section; this is more due to 'user failure' or sth like this. but you may (can) understand our way of thinking: magldr is loading rmnet code (into ram or nand, we didn't know for sure). and hd2's are 'bricked' with failures in radio section of nand. thoughts-combination from easy thinking user, not having much background knowledge: there may be some correlation...? ;) this way this particular discussion started @handy-faq.de.

sorry for blaming your work and very nice piece of sw, which was the first one to enable using android from nand on our beloved hd2's :D but it's clearn now: problem is sitting ~30cm away from hd2's display ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] seadersn:
@ arkatis: but only because of you don't know how to handle it :p :D ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
LOL! :D:rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
I am just too lazy for CLK.. Magldr is sooooo much easier for me! ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] seadersn:
:D all right :) :thumbsup:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Gibt den Man ein Keks....:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
Traurig, spreche ich nicht Deutsches! lol :eek: :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Never mind. It's all ok. Your HD2 rocks? :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] seadersn:
mine in every case :) no matter if magldr or clk is being used. main thing: android is running more than only well!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
Agree! +1 :cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clio94:
my personal opinion is that if someone wants to protect his nand he must not use it for running any os.Flash only magldr without partitioning or the special clk version 1.5 from dan1j3l and then run android from sd.So nand memory in the most space will be empty and not used and the possibillity to damage it,will be small.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davinci2007:
Magldr is quite ok for me.

Unless it is proven otherwise!

Here and now.

Go Go Go ....:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] c_shekhar:
I Fully agree with you dear.....:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cotulla:
I can't say so. We don't know the source of the problem. It can be many different variants :(

You are not fully right :)

spl designed to erase extrom and sector info backup area at every cold boot. size of extrom can be different.

extrom was designed, like I said before, for FaceBookSDK.

sector info backup allows to boot WM65 faster, because it once loaded to ram and cached util the first write operation.

nothing copied to last 24 mb during flash. it just erased to be sure old data are not used with new stuffs.

other thing - during cold boot SPL wants to erase user data partition of WM65.

and if there zero inside MBR it do very funny actions.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Rick_1995:
LOL, what do you mean by funny actions :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yugoport:
People need to understand that this a 2 year old phone, and in normal conditions it will already be in a box, apart from that we ( Leo users) are flashaholics :o) we take this phone to the extreme, so It's quite normal that some weird problems start to appear.. the HD2 is a hell of a phone, but only because we had/have wonderful devs with us, they did what never had been done, and we are so grateful.. back to topic..

But if you are afraid of harm your Leo, just do what I did, buy another one as spare :o)

That's the beauty of this beast, its not only the best (smart)phone ever, its the cheapest of the top devices :o)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 6T9:
nothin of interest anymore ... i guess
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sweetnsour:
does anyone know what the difference is between v10L and v10S?
[HTC Sensation] TheBiles:
I was able to flash my recovery with RM, but none of the developer's ROMs at showing up (I know that at least LeeDroid's is available on RM). I've connected via wifi and mobile network, but I still only see GAPPS and SU. Anyone know how to troubleshoot this?

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
i dont see them either, they'll be there soon.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] am2222:
Hi

I have this problem after update my x10 to android 2.3.When a new message restive it doesn't shown in message apps like go message and others..and I will be notified by another app "sms notifier"

Can sb help me? :(:(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] am2222:
I have changed simcard and no message resive by phone...Please help me :(:(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] am2222:
I found that when I have installed Sanity "http://tagliamonte.net/forum/forum-1.html" It shows a notification about my new messages but message doesnt shown in message apps like go message ..I have unistalled Sanity but I have this problam too :(

any idea?:confused:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] st167:
After updating to 2.3.4, I am not able to change screen lock to "pattern" !!

Option for "Pattern" is disabled and says Disabled by remote phone administrator.

I tried de-selecting all the apps listed in Device Administrators but no luck.

I even removed my work email (Corporate Sync) and then restarted the phone...again...no luck.

Right now I have PIN and Fingerprint setup.

Any idea...help!!??

Thanks...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshyy_rey:
How did you get to the update? Ota or sbf
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] st167:
Yes I got update OTA. My phone was rooted before, I don't know if it has anything to do.