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[HTC Sensation] mama_mia:
Hello to Sensation world,

I've just arrived from Sony Ericsson x10 world and i'm new to htc, specially sensation.

I now that my warranty voids if I root my device. Is there any way to return it to stock state, unroot and with stock rom so I can send it to the service if I have any problem???

It's the only thing I wanna now, after that, all the doors are opened!

Thank's in advance
[HTC Sensation] igotpunkipowa:
Everything you need to know about S-OFF, rooting, debranding and going back.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
[HTC Sensation] spicypeppermint:
I honestly think the Sensation is the first phone I've had that if you did a factory restore you'd still have to do some work to get S=On...I'd go to the above link to make sure you can do it before taking that risk.
[HTC Sensation] idavid_:
I heard that RUU gives you back S-ON and probably warranty (not sure because I haven't tried it yet)

Oh, and RUU = Rom Update Utility. In case you didn't know because you are new :)

Swyped from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] spicypeppermint:
Even if you sent your phone back with S=OFF...do they check for that? I sent 2 mytouch 4g's back with S=OFF and it never prevented me from getting an exchange.
[HTC Sensation] spicypeppermint:
I did RUU and it didn't give me S=ON...actually NOTHING I tried work. I wanted to restore my phone back to stock for a exchange because it was lagging terribly. I finally said, forget it..flashed Leedroids which I didn't like then flashed Android Revolution HD, phone stopped lagging after that so I kept it.

I"m pretty new at this so I think my terminology is backwards.
[HTC Sensation] mama_mia:
I already s-off and rooted it. Hope not to have any problems...

Sincerely I don't find any difference between the stock rom and the custom roms, and almost the same.
[HTC Sensation] spicypeppermint:
it would be nice to easily turn s-on as needed but honestly? I've returned several rooted phones. Never told I voided warranty...because I don't think they check!
[HTC Sensation] idavid_:
A little late, but if you read the sticky in dev section, it says how to get S-ON	back. You will need ADB

Swyped from my HTC Sensation
[HTC EVO 3D] lcars123:
Sometimes when I hit the home button all I get is my background and rosie does not refresh, however, if I go to the task killer and kill all the tasks then click the home button it will work properly. How can I find out what task is causing this? Also sometimes when I wake my phone by pressing the power button the lockscreen is all black. When I slide up where I imagine the ring to be it still unlocks. Any ideas? Also, I've tried multiple roms and this ends up happening to all that I've tried. Not sure what app would be causing this. Also using Net's kernel, not sure if that would cause it.
[HTC EVO 3D] dont hate:
Idk if its your unit or what but if its that serious just clear the defaults on the sense application and HTC lockscreen application and anything else you'd think is causing this. If its your unit and you care that much then get it replaced

Warning: idk if clearing the sense app will change the homescreens back to default
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
If all else fails, back everything up and perform a Factory Reset. Then run it with just the basic apps for a while. If it seems fine, then start reinstalling your apps one by one. It may be an app causing your issues.

If that doesn't help, then it might be time for a replacement phone.
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
I heard they were doing this in exchange for the Verizon version of the phone.. is this true? The battery on the TBolt is absolutely abysmal, and I need something to last the entire day.. Just want to use this phone in areas of 4G when tethering etc.

Thanks.
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
Why not get the extended battery?

Sorry I don't know the answer to the iphone thing, just wanted to give you another option.
[Thunderbolt General] mcpo117:
No man that ship sailed. Besides what are you thinking posting about getting an iPhone on XDA? Hopefully you won't get flamed too bad.
[Thunderbolt General] CanesDrew:
Hmm. You sound like an Apple fanboy.

Before they sell people Android phones they should make them pass an Android Proficiency Test. That way if they suck at learning about their phones and unleashing its true potential, they can go to Apple and let Steve Jobs rape them four different ways.
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
YOU calling HIM a fanboy is hilarious :D All he did was complain about the battery and you FREAKED :D:D

Original poster: I would check here, XDA has a forum dedicated just to the iPhone:

http://forum.iphone-developers.com/
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
I am extremely proficient with android thank you. I would pass a test, you however, you probably insult the proctor giving the test and fail.
[Thunderbolt General] ddgarcia05:
Getting an iphone wouldn't help the 4G troubles you have as they aren't 4G capable. I'm sure you already knew that. Like the guy above said you should try an extended battery.
[Thunderbolt General] CanesDrew:
Been there, done that. Traded the tshirt for a better comeback.
[Thunderbolt General] CanesDrew:
In all seriousness, if you'd root and flash a different kernel, you'd probably be fine. My stock battery lasts all day.
[Thunderbolt General] greatestfall:
that's interesting since I've been rooted since I purchased this phone back in april and although I'm on CM7 with the leankernal running in battsaver mode, my phone doesn't even last all day when i'm on 3g and just texting and using auto-sync for my gmail and facebook.

the battery on this phone is absolute garbage, almost as bad, if not worse than the Eris' battery was.
[Thunderbolt General] turdbogls:
if you arent getting throug a full day with that setup on 3G then there is more to the problem than the crappy battery.

i can just barely squeeze a day out of my phone on a sense rom and 4G coverage. it is very close, but i can do it if i dont mess with the phone and only use it when i actually need to use it (no fun)

but i just have a 1700ma slim battery, and my stock battery and i am good to go for a full day easily with heavy use.
[Thunderbolt General] CanesDrew:
I am on the stock battery running Synergy and a few days ago I got 12 hours on my battery. It was awesome.
[Thunderbolt General] ddgarcia05:
What's your battery life like? Looks like we both have the same usage but I'm on the stock CM7 kernel and I come home after an 10 hour shift (12 hours off charger) with about 40% battery life left. After I get home I flip on the wifi and surf and play music until the battery dies which is usually an hour or an hour and a half.
[Thunderbolt General] g00s3y:
extended battery, 40+ hours, 'nuff said :D
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
It seems as though battery life is one of the most common topics among us vibrant owners. We are always looking to increase battery life, whether it be with a new rom, new kernels, or apps from the market. I wanted to start this thread for everyone to share their experiences, tricks of the trade, etc on getting the best battery life.

Post pictures, rom info, kernel info, app info, modem info, battery info etc! No pic, no proof!!!

This is the best I have been able to get with my phone with:

Bionix 1.3.1 - Stock kernel - KB1 modem - TW launcher - auto brightness off, set about 2 clicks from the left - battery calibration app used at 100% - Stock battery. Light / Light moderate usage, phone calls, texts, web searches. GPS on.
[Vibrant General] srdjav:
Well, this is great battery life you got there :) For me 24h is the most I can squeeze from my Vibrant with Project V/Bullet 1.42 kernel, auto brightness off, moderate usage. 16h with heavy usage... It's fully charged now so I don't have pics to show it :)
[Vibrant General] gamikzone:
i used around 5% with in an hour with somewhat heavy usage :D this is cm7 nightly 71 bali with uv
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
srdjav - have you tried bali uv? I heard it works really well, especially with bi-winning, but I have heard great things about it on all different types of roms
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
gamikzone - impressive for cm7, I have read horror stories that the battery life on it wasn't all that great...but I guess with the kernel script and bali, it's way better!
[Vibrant General] srdjav:
@corpsetomb

Yes, I did tried Bali... But honestly, didn't see much difference in battery life. I have tried 4 different kernel on Project V and battery life was always 16-24h, depends of the usage. With extremely heavy usage 16h... So i decided to stay with Bullet 1.42.

But I didn't try Bi-Winning ROM yet... Maybe I will give it a try :)

But I had very bad experience with Super_DragonMODz 1.5 kernel... For a few hours everything was ok. But in one moment I picked up a phone after doing nothing for a half an hour and it was HOT! And I could smell "burning" inside :) Luckily when I took battery out and let the phone cool down, it was ok :)
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
Can we see pictures not words :/
[Vibrant General] chirantan.f:
i am on Trigger redux build 17 and bali 1.1.1, so almost same setup as you, so would like to try your UV settings, could you post them here?
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
Battery

Modem:KB5

Kernel:Glitch

Rom:CM7 70#

Battery:1500Mah Damaged once it hits 30% It starts to drain 2% i have 2 batterys an the second gets double to almost triple the one i am using
[Vibrant General] Insomaniac10:
haha what is this, a courtroom?

truly, none of this matters. one big factor in battery life is application use. in order to pinpoint someones battery usage, one would have to list,

in detail

, their application usage. which/how many apps poll for background data/how often? is the person using an autokiller/ram optimizer? which/how many apps stay open in the background, even when killed?

The bottom line is, battery life is ultimately determined by the user. there are only so many differences, in terms of battery, between these roms and kernels. none of them will give you a SIGNIFICANT difference. this is not the fault of the devs, they are not magicians.

This is why people do not get nice responses in rom/kernel threads when they ask "how is the battery life?". Then some clown who is a very light user will say "its great! i get 20hrs per cycle!!" and then you flash it expecting ground-shaking results...only you forgot that you have 317 apps on your phone (20 of which are constantly poll/checking for background data), and you use your phone/data like a whore who youll never see again. and unfortunately, there are horrible noobs out in there who, after doing this, will actually go back into the thread and say something like "DO NOT FLASH, MY BATTERY DOESNT EVEN LAST 8 HRS!!!!"

Theres only one true way to REALLY compare battery between ROMs/kernels (and it still isnt 100%trustworthy): download a ROM, try it out for a few days at moderate usage. Then flash the one you want to compare it to. Make sure you have the SAME exact setup as the ROM before (apps, brightness, GPS on/off, background data, etc.), and try to mimmick your usage with the other one. NOW you can effectively determine, relatively, which ROM may show better battery results for everybody. and then, when someone asks "does this have good battery?" you dont just say yes; you say "yes, i have seen noticeable improvement since coming from _______ rom, i about ___hrs more per full charge "

sorry for the rant
[Vibrant General] kazumahits:
here's my battery life with Project V.

http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view&current=xda.jpg
[Vibrant General] srdjav:
Come on man, how did you menage this? :) Do you have any apps install on your phone? :)
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
@TopShelf10

No worries, I welcome your input! I agree that a big factor in battery life is application use. You will see in the OP that I recommended people put in as much detail as possible along with their picture, such as what type of use, kernel, rom, etc. I would also like to hear and see comparisons between roms, that is part of what this thread is all about! To be able to compare different roms and see what helps based on usage.

Thank you for participating and your input!

Note: Do you guys think I should start a list of best battery life in the op?
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
I know this but anyone can say I got 24hrs show me me proof
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
@kazumahits

Would you mind sharing the details on how you get this awesome battery life? Kernel, programs, light/moderate/heavy use etc?
[Vibrant General] laylovj:
MITurned off background data. At least 4 hours of Youtube and flashed at about 90% so....

wtf tapatalk that's

display-30%

GPS Status-16

Standby-12

wifi-11

android system-7

gps test-5

idle-5

and other stuff

23h 23m 1s on battery with 19% left
[Vibrant General] ray_saul:
WTH!!!!!! I wish my phone could last that long. But do you use your phone a lot? Like facebook? Music? Videos? Etc???
[Vibrant General] ipetloudog:
Trigger redux w/glitch while actually doing stuff like an hour of tetrisphere.

Suck it.
[Vibrant General] imitebewrong:
You can manipulate the battery use stats pretty easily... at least on CM7. If I plug my phone in to charge for an hour, it doesn't reset my battery usage. Sometimes when I look at it it will say 24 hours+. Which I know is not at all accurate.
[Vibrant General] UltraVicious:
That happens to me on MIUI makes it hard to keep track of it

Btw my batt
[Vibrant General] nevrlow:
Only getting about 12 hours nero 5 w/voodoo on kb5
[Vibrant General] Abu-7abash:
You guys should post the display hours, that's what counts. I could keep my phone on stand by with airplane mode and get a 2-day battery life that doesn't count for ****.
[Vibrant General] KWKSLVR:
I posted these a long time ago. This was on Nero V if I remember right, can't remember which modem but I know it wasn't what was originally packed in with Nero.

Disclaimer on this:

* I was going for maximum battery while not being in airplane mode.

* Light usage, over this time period I made a few calls that lasted a few minutes, about 10 SMS's or so, and glanced at email once every 1-2 hours (chose to use my PC over my Phone like I normally would have). I did click a couple of news articles and read them but not longer than just a couple minutes.

* I had WiFi Calling, the DRM processes and Media Hub frozen

* This was on EDGE the entire time, although I did turn on WiFi a few times for about 5 minutes each time to download some attachments.

When I did this experiment, it was to really find out how long I could make my phone last with it being on and connected to the network. I tried to take it from the viewpoint of the rare user that is always really busy, but doesn't rely on their smartphone for productivity. It was done purely for fun and not to act like my setup was some how superior. The truth of the matter is the SAMOLED sucks battery. It always has and always will. Screen on time and data consumption/CPU is what really kills it for us.
[Vibrant General] KWKSLVR:
One more pic.
[Vibrant General] nevrlow:
haha true story:D
[Vibrant General] ruvim.boyko:
same as everyone

i usually get around 16-20 hours with moderate usage

i would show a pic but idk how to do screenshots lol
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
Download shootme from the market.
[Vibrant General] videogamefanatic89:
All of the relatively recent CM7 builds have given me phenomenal battery life. With my average usage of checking my phone every now and then, and playing games occasionally, My phone lasts about 2 days. I use GoLauncher, Automatic Brightness, manually kill tasks with the GoLauncher task manager widget every once in a while, Wifi on, automatic sync off, but I also have Data off since i don't have a data plan, which probably helps a bit. Still, on the stock rom it lasted less than day (10am-9pm) on a similar setup.

I'm currently on MIUI. The performance and battery aren't quite as good as cyanogen, but the rom is still extremely awesome (comfortably lasts a whole day). I'll probably flash the NEO kernel to it soon to over-clock and change the governor.
[Vibrant General] gamikzone:
the neo kernel is giving me great battery life on cm7 nightly 74 even better than bali, on bali i would get 10 hours with medium usage and on neo i get about 16 on moderate usage im not even undervolting right now and im overclocking to 1.44ghz :)
[Vibrant General] dr150:
Currently using Bali 1.8.8uv with Bionix 1.3.2_test and Juwe Ram manager.

Best life I've seen so far in my setups.

I get exactly 5 hours (!) of active, 100% screen on (finger's width from left of brightess slider), GPS use with the Copilot GPS software. Wifi is also on and connected during this time.

Unfortunately, it's leaking 12% in 9 hours in non-use. The previous Bali kernel put it to sleep so well that I only lost 3% in such time. I've played with so many kernels that I think I've corrupted something along the way when it comes to sleep mode....
[Vibrant General] ChoctawT:
This is with moderate usage... w glitch kernel.. still had 51% left
[Vibrant General] sLiKK:
What's bali?
[Vibrant General] Abu-7abash:
A kernel.
[Vibrant General] HaloMediaz:
Battery Life is good on Bi-winning v3 w/ bali 1.8.8uv. Battery drains fast when watching betflix and youtube. :)
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
7% drain in 4 hours of phone sitting idle with Wi-Fi connected and updating widgets. Screen was on for 6 minutes in those 4 hours.

I'd say that is pretty good considering I'm running 1.4Ghz and CM7. Idk what kind of battery problems all of you are complaining about.

Right now, BatteryLeft widget is giving me 24.5 hours full battery life per charge. Mind you, that is with my moderate normal usage. Samsung ROMs were giving me about 26-27 hours with the same usage. I'd say CM7 doesn't have battery problems.
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
It's a kernel, which basically controls the computer system of your phone. Some are designed to make your phone faster, more stable, give you better battery life, etc. If you need a link click on Bali in my signature.
[Vibrant General] mik0bil0g:
I don't do much streaming on YT and I haven't been on netflix lately, but I'm using the same setup and after calibrating it today, the battery life is amazing! I don't have any screenshots, but with pretty heavy use, I went from 100 to 20 from 11am to 10pm (right now!) and I consider that pretty good because on Stock, my Vibrant would have been completely drained by then, even with only moderate use.
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
I've been seeing a lot of the bi-winning v3 / bali combo, someone posted in another thread they got 48 hours out of it!!!!
[Vibrant General] kobesabi:
Great thread of all the battery stats. I was thinking of upgrading my ROM to something that lasted better than 10 hrs battery w/ light use...probably going to try Bali and Bi-Inning next.

Side thought, from IT world, all battery max life shrink over time. Being most of us have use at least 1 year on it already...shouldn't that become a factor of battery life testing? I mean probably by next year, our battery won't be as good as new, and its max or "potential" reading / result won't reflect true battery drain from the ROM or kernel as it would from a brand new battery. Anyone agree?
[Vibrant General] kwes1020:
Gingerzen rc2 24/7wifi on 3hrs screen on hour of calls and lots of texts and tweets.
[Vibrant General] Tigerbalm306:
Holy crap. 3 days?????
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
Wow good stuff!!!
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
Update: Using Bionix 1.3.1 - SUPER_DragonMODZ_ULP - KB5- Scarlet Leftovers V6 Theme- Juwe's Ram Script - As you can see I wasn't using the phone much that day, maybe a few texts and calls, minimal web browsing. Also this was right after a batter callibration.
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
Some of these are just Godly...wow
[Vibrant General] lrobles787:
The phone rooted or moderate use. Just wondering...
[Vibrant General] Shortbus-Driver:
True battery life for me is aprox. 7 hrs with medium use and maybe 4 with heavy use.... i do not know with light use cuz i dont do light use...ever!

having 3 batteries and an external charger....i dont cry or lie about my battery life :-D
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
amazing, i would love to know more about your specific settings, such as cpu governors and i/o schedulers, if your oc or not, etc etc
[Vibrant General] mrbradeli:
This is just scary. Do you have a car battery plugged into your Vibrant or something? Do I have to sell my soul for this kind of battery life?
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
xD I was thinking the same thing lol I wish I coould squeeze 20 hours outta my device, let alone 3 days lmfao
[Vibrant General] fishman0919:
Bionix 1.3.2 test with Bali 1.8.8uv, Juwe's RAM Script and Tw4.5 (4.0) launcher... 3g data on!!

2 dozen calls, 3 dozen texts, some web browsing with and without wifi, some facebook app with and without wifi.. some other misc stuff.
[Vibrant General] effy_t:
With 3G data on ?
[Vibrant General] fishman0919:
Yes, see edit above
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
With moderate us-

GingerZen with Talon Kernel
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
Moderate more like none look at display time
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
To be honest, that was actually pretty puzzling to me. The display shouldn't have been that low. I made several calls, txted throughout the day, used my browser quite a bit, played Roms on both my Gameboid app and my PSX emulator app, was browsing on XDA app for awhile, checked facebook every hour or so, emailed quite a bit, and watched a few 5-10 min videos online.

Its interesting because when I looked at my phone's status about an hour before taking this pic, my display % was at about 57% and my voice calls were at about 12%....I certainly did not spend 83% on voice calls lol
[Vibrant General] wishbone_xiii:
wow, those battery life are nice..

Could please help me, I'm new to vibrant, the last i did was flashed my unit with CM7 but the battery life was horrible!., It's like I'm losing 5% every 20mins, and best part of it is Im doing nothing!..(No wifi, No 3G, No sync, no background data, using only 2g,) Also did use battery calibration from market and wipe my battery stats after CM7 flash.
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
You're definitely not going to want to use cm7 if good battery life is

Something you're looking for. it's true that you can obtain....decent life with certain kernels and undervolting...but all in all...you'll always have at best...maybe 8 hours with cm7
[Vibrant General] l-levit:
Don't ask me,, I'm a nob and don't understand it either!
[Vibrant General] Xenoism:
Trigger 2.3.5

Neo 17 r16
[Vibrant General] corpsetomb:
After calibration, just got 2 and a half days on fishmanmod's revamped bionix 1.3.1. Here's the link to check it out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1441976