yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Progress reports? Why, are you paying for this ROM?

Every time someone replies to this thread with nothing to contribute, it gets bumped up the list, and I realize I just did the same thing, but seriously; AOSP is a long and hard journey, when progress is made on it, you'll know.
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
I'm not even going to touch this one. SMH
[HTC EVO 3D] bigfoottrucker:
No I'm not paying for it. And I know of the time and effort these devs must give to this. I am just an end user. I get curious. Like to feel part of the effort. If only for moral support mostly. I'm a ROM flashing addict, and CM7 is my favorite drug. On shift, toastcfh let some early stuff out over irc. I'm not pushing, just curious. Do you ever get curious? I'm guessing that curiosity is what keeps the devs excited for the next phone or hardware challenge. BAH! And they call us whiney.
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Nothing wrong with a little enthusiasm. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
I wish I could help.

TEAM WIN RECRUIT MY ASS TO HELP OUT.

Lol, but seriously, I can't wait for this.
[HTC EVO 3D] mbobino:
BUMP!!!! Just for ****s and giggles too!!!

I hate AOSP! It just looks ugly. Id rather have an iOS 5 on my 3vo... maybe then it'll look cool and I can talk crap to all of you xda'ers. hahahaha my post is so pointless.

Seriously though, is all of this really necessary? @LiquidSolstice: You're a Recognized Developer and all I ever seem to see you doing now is troll? What happened to the LS that developed for the hero? I used to use your ROM all the time, it was probably one of the few favorites I had back then. But to be completely honest, if you were just somehow to put out a new version of it for the 3D I probably wouldn't even try it because of how you behave around here. Clean up your act dude! You're a recognized developer so act like one! Otherwise people around here might start calling you fixxxer2008.

Now that I've gotten that out...

Yes it boots and no it doesn't work right just yet. Maybe if you guys start acting a little more grown up the devs around here might just work a little bit harder to bring these things to you. I spent a whole 25-30 minutes getting MIUI this far and with another couple of hours I'm sure you could be running a pretty stable beta possibly today.

Now, thats just my two cents. It really sucks seeing what was once an awesome community of people trying their best to help each other turning into the literal underside of a bridge.

Cheers everyone! and my sincerest apologies to the OP for this quite unnecessary post.

EDIT:: By the way, it flashes in less than 30 seconds.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Excuse me? My act? Are you blind? I'm not "trolling", look at the last damn 5-6 (maybe even more) pages and tell me where any progress/contributions were made to this ROM. It's just a bunch of people asking over and over for progress or making posts like "awesome, aosp"

And EVERY fricking time someone posts asking for an ETA or progress, this thread gets bumped, just as you just did.

Nothing has happened in this thread for a while, it should be obvious that Joel is an incredibly busy guy (he only recently GOT his Evo 3D, for crying out loud). He's extremely skilled, and he will figure it out.

When AOSP and MIUI make it to the Evo 3D, I guarantee you, you WILL know, because people will be rampantly vocal about it. SO in the meantime, why don't we all stop bumping this thread?

And while we're at it, let's all stop attacking me, that'd be nice. Frankly, I don't care if I have the label of dev or not, that doesn't chance our rules; you don't post questions in Dev, and you don't bump threads in the way this has been bumped. Unless you can really show me where in the last few pages that anything posted was contributing to the ROM in any way...

I've been here since before many of you even knew what a smartphone was, back in the days of Windows mobile 6.1. Back then people paid attention to the rules, we were kind to each other, and we did this stuff for fun.

Nowadays, people just think XDA is a ROM-stamping machine, and that's just getting to be sad. So stuff your ego, buddy. I really don't care if you don't like me, but I won't hesitate to call out blatant and pointless bumping, and it's infuriating me that I keep doing exactly that every single time one of you insults me and I have to explain to you the simple concept of thread bumping and why we don't do it.

Seriously, I'm a nice enough guy, and I'm also smart enough to follow our rules as well as understand basic forum posting etiquette. It's really not as difficult as some of you are finding it to be. If you've got a problem with me for explaining to you all the basic concepts that the XDA forums were built on, that's really not my concern.
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Very well put and well over due. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] mbobino:
You've been thanksed buddy. +1 for hypocrisy!

If you would have bothered reading my post in its entirety and not just what you wanted to see then you'd know that I single handedly just made progress on this. Did you miss the part where it says that MIUI boots up on our phones? Not to mention the compliment I gave you on your past work? If I have offended you I apologize but just as I am no one to tell you that you can't troll, you are no one to tell me that I cant.

So excuse me for trying to bring something to you that everyone wants. Joel is a cool dude and Im sure if I figure anything out that he doesn't already know he'll be grateful for the help.

@Joel: Hit me up on gtalk if you'd like and I am more than happy to help you get this going. You should already have me on your buddy list!
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Wow, to think it's even possible to have such an ego.

I very much saw the progress you made on MIUI, but if you bothered to read my post, you'd see I was referring to the countless pages before your post that contained nothing remotely constructive.

Did you miss that part? Or were you so expectant of praise that you glossed over it and decided to misconstrue what I said? Was it really so difficult to understand? Here, let me rephrase what I'm saying in a nutshell since you completely missed it.

Was that clear enough for you? Or do I need to outline it in glittery pink borders and blinking text?

Great work, and awesome potential. That doesn't change anything I said before.
[HTC EVO 3D] mbobino:
Actually, glittery pink borders and blinking text would be nice to see on here. The brown and yellow gets kind of boring. And for some odd reason I guess I did miss the point of your post. Was it the fact that you just need to satisfy an undying urge to treat others poorly, or maybe it was that you just want to complain. Either way, pick a fight over XDA about it, clutter up a thread over mbobino's nonsense, whine and cry that not enough people make progress on anything important anymore. It just doesn't matter. You just have to be right all the time and can't take a simple plea from a fellow human being to stop being a jerk. I've had this same conversation with another member before and at least they were receptive to the point I was making. So please, stop policing the users that don't seem to know better. Let a moderator take care of it or just look the other way.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Or I could ask you to stop being an ass in the same way, to knock down the ego, and rather than cowardly ***** me out on a thread, to PM me instead. But no, it's ok, let's tussle here.

It's ok. It's wrong of me to ask that we stop bumping a thread with pointless crap, and it's also wrong of me to point out that members that have been here for over a year still post questions in the dev section.

Stupid, stupid me. I mean, here I was thinking that logic was actually supposed to be used when we post, but no, it's all about finger pointing because no one else seems to want to say what needs to be said.

If you really are so high-minded and angelic, why did you bother instigating this? Oh, that's right, because you had some sort of inane urge to express your distaste for me while all the while preaching peace on the forums.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
What progress have you made? If you take preludedrew's boot.img and replace it in this port and then cook this rom. Everything is basically fully functional besides sound. Do you now have a working sound kernel also?
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Hm. Can you link me to preludedrew's boot.img? I'd like to take a look at it.
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Liquid I don't mean to pile on here but you and I have had this argument about you policing forums in pm and on forums. Leave it to the mods or like I told you in the pm a couple weeks ago.... Apply to become a mod.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I believe I made it clear to you I'm not trying to be a mod when I state the rules that we already have in place. I'm not "policing" ****, people need to get this concept out of their heads. I may come across as blunt, but I don't really care about being a mod.

Figures you would of course gloss over the pages and pages of nonsense, useless bumps, requests for etas, all to find the one post which insults me and then side with it. Awesome.
[HTC EVO 3D] Yet Again:
Your 2 cents don't fit in my soda machine, or my teletubby pinball machine...therefore I have no use for your 2 cents. Without Devs, users wouldn't have addictions...and without Users, Devs would be staring at what they built wondering if anyone would ever appreciate it. Thank heavens they do this for free. And who cares if somebody gets a little attitude or some over-zealous curiosity every once in a while. Steam must be blown! What bothers me...Why anyone feels the need to comment on anyone else for any reason other than to support their efforts or show appreciation. If you don't like somebody/thing...keep your mouth shut! Move along, choose a different thread, and follow a new ROM. But alas...this is the internetz. Maybe you just can't stop the old "E"identity!?

Sent from my flash exhausted 3VO!
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/preludedrew/status/100778553175584768

You have to extract the rom in whatever kitchen environment you're using. Just a heads up
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Ah, of course. Thanks for the link!
[HTC EVO 3D] mbobino:
Guess I missed that... I feel dumb now lol. I'll have a look at the sound issues but if its kernel related then I'm not of much use.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigfoottrucker:
Well, I'm just thankful we have devs working on roms for us to use on this awesome phone. And not policing the internet. Been thru the hero and shift before this. On all the forums users have asked questions. Only here have I seen the power trips. Makes me glad I never had the og EVO if this is what it was like. I would hope the real devs are happy people are enthusiastic about their product. This is pathetic. Shame on me. SHAME ON YOU!
[HTC EVO 3D] ysagas:
I gotta say I love your rom though.
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
Can anyone post up the compiled ROM with preludedrew's boot image? I'd really appreciate it since I'm at school and can't do it myself. Lol.

EDIT: as long as it's the CM base, I don't want anyone to go through the time of compiling MIUI because I hate MIUI. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
OK.

@LiquidSolstice, listen up, cause I'm about to mess you up with the truth:

HEY! HEY!

The rules are there for members to read, not for you to keep quoting.

There is someone whose job that is:

It's The MODERATORS job.

How HARD is that to understand?

Really? If I had to guess from reading just a handful of your posts, I'd bet your favorite time of the day is in the morning, when you put on your imaginary XDAPD uniform and polish your nightstick in the mirror.

(You police threads like no other member I've EVER Seen.

I just know you had a hard time physically typing the words "I'm not 'policing' ****... ".

Did your keyboard lock up?)

You freaking ARE a mod.

Problem is,

XDA was never informed.

You really should let them know, and that you've already gone through the interview process for them.

Because you have.

(My FAAAAAAVORITE part.... )

One post.

Really?

There are SO many threads in which other members get sick of your constant jibes,and tell you to back off, or have to just simply jump in and defend whoever it is your attacking.

(I know this, because it's been ME before on every single angle of that situation because of you.)

Look, man:

You're apparently quite a talented Developer.

That's more than 95% of the members of XDA can say.

But, I think you, and everyone else know exactly what your TRUE calling is.....

eh?, "Moderator"?

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This post was has been brought to you today by the letters: S, T, F, and U, along with our friends at quitbeingadick.org.

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(I've never asked for 'thanks' before:

but now might be a good time to do just that, because

+ + Probably just dug my own grave...lol)
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Thank you for that. As well as bumping the thread, yet again. If the rules are for everyone to read, why isn't anyone reading them? Oh, no, it's much easier to get pissed at people for restating them instead.

Getting tired of this bull**** and this thread bumping. If you have ****-talk to tell me, please PM me. I get that the "Let's All Attack Liquid" trend is picking up steam, so have the balls to PM me so I don't have to keep inflating a topic that's already full of useless **** like the post above.
[HTC EVO 3D] unbreakablestix:
I quit posting and almost quit following xda for the very reason you just stated +1

Bump...
[HTC EVO 3D] bdoople:
Now that we're out of the menstrual flow, I'll gladly donate to someone who can provide me with a MIUI beta with working stuff. Sound is important though, my phone is my alarm clock.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-w...b-based-tool?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

New devices will continue to ship with locked bootloaders.

HTC will allow bootloaders to be unlocked using a web-based tool.

This month, you'll see an update to the the non-U.S. version of the HTC Sensation, with the T-Mobile U.S. to follow shortly thereafter. The EVO 3D will follow the HTC Sensation. This update won't actually unlock the bootloader -- it'll lay the groundwork for doing so.

The actual bootloader unlocking will take place via a web tool. You'll have to give HTC an e-mail address and acknowledge that you know what you're doing and promise not to complain when you brick your phone.

You'll plug your phone into a computer with the Android SDK loaded, then type in a device ID token, which you'll receive by e-mail, into the web tool.

Then the unlocking process will begin.

Thoughts?
[EVO 4G General] boi2gangsta:
What about the og EVO 4g?
[EVO 4G General] Omgadroid:
they are avoiding the question when u ask htc i mean

.................annoying relly
[EVO 4G General] SUCCESSOR:
What a load of hooey. should I forfeit my warranty and insurance to? How about I send a note to my service provider telling them I bypass their tether fee here and there.
[EVO 4G General] monkeychef:
I have heard that they will not be touching the og evo sadly.

Sent from my PHAT Iconia
[EVO 4G General] MaxCarnage:
They want us to let go and move on. ;)
[EVO 4G General] Kaos Chase:
Blah blah, crippity crap crap crap.... I knew EVO would get dropped when I finally buy one....
[EVO 4G General] LCL22:
from his twitter account, have patience boyz

as for htc?

i couldnt give three hoots how they decide to do it, revolutionary does the exact same thing without voiding your warranty, ,and you can roll it back to take it in and they are none the wiser, who in their right mind interested in unlocked bootloaders is going to do this?

i literally almost lol out of just how sad that is , you should check out the comments of people, its hilarious

i am dam sure evo will get hacked without the need for this voidyourwarrantybs, the rooting community will beat htc to the punch for this, and for future phones, even the photon got rooted already and that things got an encrypted bootloader, the monkeys at htc can blow all the smoke they want, this is nothing but a Publicity stunt
[EVO 4G General] angrymanhands:
Check this out. agrabren is still working on root for og evo. http://bit.ly/oG0UUm
[EVO 4G General] cuban4lf:
sounds to me like there using the "tool" that was made by unrevoked and alpharevx to do so !!! just saying that its what it sounds like since i just rooted the 3vo
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
This seems like a less than ideal solution, but at least they're going through with it.
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
My Theory: HTC leaves the Evo4G locked to drive sales to newer unlocked phones. It's a good strategy.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
It's possible.

But considering the fact that full root has been achieved on the newer devices, I would bet dollars for donuts that root on the Evo will be very soon.
[EVO 4G General] someonenewhere:
I am confident in the dev's that are working on the root for the Evo 4G ..

One of the main guys said they're almost there, I trust those guys ...
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
HTC is going to make sure that every update they make closes down on all exploits. Who knows, the next 3D update may be unrootable or could take months to figure out.

I can see a future where root = no warranty, possibly no insurance.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sucks for them that due to this Act they can't kill the warranty just because you do something software based doesn't it?

If my USB port fails, it's not because of my ROM.

As much as they might try in court anyone would win that.
[EVO 4G General] jayare313:
Bootloaders should never be locked anyhow. That's like buying a new house but not getting the keys to it. Wtf! If its MY phone , make me believe its MY phone by allowing me to do what I want with it. Long as warranty still covers manufacturers' defects I could care less if I brick it.

Sent from hell.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I think that's all we ask.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
That's going to be a issue. HTC could potentially wait for you to take them to court for a claim on a rooted phone. The burden will be on you to prove that the rooting of the phone did not cause whatever problem you are having.
[EVO 4G General] SUCCESSOR:
I don't know why anyone got their hopes up. Htc never even hinted that they would root the og evo. They first said they would unlock future devices, then they included the 3vo and sensation. Now they have pretty much confirmed that all new devices will come with locked bootloaders and you will have to jump through their hoops for the unlock.

They only care about appeasing some with this crap while they lock down devices tighter and tighter.

Don't worry about the evo. People wanna root the hot new device. now that that is done those talented individuals will take care of the og crowd. Communities take care of their own.

@jayare313

More like buying a house and the basement is bolt locked and the breaker box, water heater, and septic tank cover are all down there. You own the house but if something goes wrong you gotta call and ask permission for a repair.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
One big case will solve this for good.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
If it's a known mass defect maybe. Kind of like that Nvidia GPU issue from a while back. But if your phone starts rebooting all the time (which happened to my EVO early on), and it's not a mass defect, then they can just say that rooting caused the problem. For example, flashing a custom kernel and overclocking the CPU potentially damage the CPU over time. HTC could simply just say no to a claim because of that, and like I said, it'd be up to you to prove them wrong. I'm also pretty sure I'd say **** it and just buy a new phone then waste time and money to take them to court.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
It just depends.

If you have the money to stage a lawsuit it would help the greater good, that's for sure.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
This has got to be the dumbest thing I've read in this thread..buying a house with no keys? Its not like they are selling you a phone that you can't turn on or make calls with..
[EVO 4G General] xsisbest:
Ok so you get the keys but they provide the furniture and decor and you can't change it.. is that dumbed down enough for you?? I'm pretty sure I've read dumber things in my life..
[EVO 4G General] CDKJudoka:
This is the same thing that Apple did when it came to jailbreaking the iPhone. It's not illegal, but they can void your warranty for doing it. If you think about it, you guys pretty much voided your warranties if you rooted the phone to begin with, so this will just be the end user actually making that acknowledgment. Now, you just kind of ignore that fact.

Stop whining and deal with it.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I dont think it completely voids your warranty but they can possibly deny your claims if rooting damaged your phone.

What makes this different is that in the past you could unroot your phone and make a claim without them ever knowing you rooted. If HTC seals Android tight, they could potentially have a database of all rooted users using their phones.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Most exploits used to root are security concerns. Would you buy a home with a huge missing first floor wall?
[EVO 4G General] inifekt:
Duh... more room to do activities!
[EVO 4G General] Sry0fcr:
It's more like just buying a house and wanting to do renovations. They sold you a device with their ROM on it and you bought it as is knowing full well what you were getting. You may modify it as you wish... if you know how. You wouldn't expect the person selling the house to do the renovations for you would you? I didn't think so.
[EVO 4G General] endsleym:
I share the same concerns about HTC secretly keeping a database of rooted users. For some reason I trust the devs more than HTC.

Why do people keep commenting on the house analogy? It made sense. No need to attack him/her for it.
[EVO 4G General] CDKJudoka:
Think about how many people have email accounts that are not linked to them in any way, just for spam. I know I do, my wife does, as well as most of our friends. If you are worried, create a free account with Yahoo or google and no worries about them getting your info.

Now, if the start using the ESNs to track the phones being rooted, that is a different story all together. But I am sure that would break some privacy law.

As for the house analogy, it makes less sense than a car.

For example: You can't expect to throw a supercharger onto a Honda Civic and expect them to honour the warranty for a blown engine or transmission. If your suspension or brakes fail, than yes, but the onus is still on the company to prove that your modifications caused the damage, be it a car company or mobile electronics provider.
[EVO 4G General] bcarter2000:
Anything software related can reverse engineered. Whatever HTC uses to unlock the bootloader can (more than likely) be hacked to use on our EVO4Gs. Without having to give any information.