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[Xperia Play Android Development] illuminerdi:
You do realize you typed out two paragraphs castigating him when you could have just typed out the one sentence reply "No it doesn't work in 2.3.4 currently"
[Xperia Play Android Development] Clienterror:
Yep, I was on the toilet and I had nothing better to do.
[Xperia Play Android Development] torgamer:
I think Someone get PlaystionPocket.apk form 2.3.3 and make it to .zip

next use CWM Recovery install it

might work?????

PS i try but install aborb...... cuz i can't make update.zip

maybe DoomLoad can help... I hope....

sry my bad English
[Xperia Play Android Development] noojster:
Okay, I just extracted the .img files from my original final fantasy 7 cds bought back in 1997. XD

How am I supposed to change discs? ^^
[Xperia Play Android Development] illuminerdi:
Disk changing does not currently work. You could get to the end of disk 1, save your game, and copy the memory card file onto a bootable version of disk 2, load that up and resume your game from the save.

That's the only way to play multi-disc games right now. Multi disc support is probably not coming any time soon.
[Xperia Play Android Development] ermacwins:
This deserves to be put here http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=530

I would of never know on this emu if I weren't for looking for some bits and bobs for my cousins new xperia play
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Feel free to do so. Maybe it'll fit better in the Play's Apps section as this isn't for any other phones. Also, 2.0 will be out soon that fixes 2.3.4, so now may not be the best time to advertise.
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
Sorry my noob question...

Hi.. sorry for making questions without reading proprely... Yes... my fault, i question first, and then start reading... sorry

But here is another noob question... since the problem is in 2.3.4 they changed PSX native emulator, can't we simple go back to the same emulator that we had in previous version of android? We could simple freeze the new emulator and use the old one, and so on....

Thanks in advance...
[Xperia Play Android Development] Clienterror:
Sorry for getting on you so hard ;)

I think the reason for it not working right even if you downgrade to the 2.3.3 version is because it's linked to a random file we can't find in the system data. I'm pretty sure he knows how to bypass it but with ICS so close I don't think he wants to burn his exploit till ICS is available. I could be wrong but that's what I've got out of it.
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
The problem is I don't know how they fixed it. Because it was fixed even in CM7.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Clienterror:
Ya it sucks, it's like the only thing keeping me from updating. I know I can use fpse but I really like this one better.
[Xperia Play Android Development] doost650:
I feel the same way, I really wanna update to 2.3.4 as well! I no I can use FPSE but I don't wanna either. I like having the icons in my menu.
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
Logcat original Crash Bandicoot in 2.3.3

Logcat original Crash Bandicoot in 2.3.4

Compare it and you will find the file... I'm not dev, just assuming by logical. The answer for that, must be in Crash... Crash use the native PSX emulator in Xplay, so the file must be used and linked inside Crash Bandicoot... If logcat doesn't show (don't know... never used logcat), decompile crash bandicoot is another option...

We dont need the new ICS exploit... only need to continue using the native emulator in 2.3.3 as it was before... working, and great... Tryed PSX4droid, and games are very slow... Tryed yifanlu method, and its f****** great... Medievil just run as I remmember in PSone...

Forget about breaking the protection... Just tell us how to replace it by the old emulator in 2.3.3 and we all be happy :D
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
I don't think you understand. I don't know HOW Sony's blocking it. It's like a blacklist of some sort that prevents even crash bandicoot 1.0.1 (new versions includes 1.0.3) from running. It's even patched in CM7, so it must be a system or kernel patch.

In fact I'll forward the next donation I get to whoever can tell me how Sony is preventing older emulators from running.
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
Sorry... my idea was to get some kind of log of the blocking... If it blocks on the health warning screen (happens the same on me), I thought you could find it on log... or compare it to a log of original Crash Bandicoot
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Well, it would be nice if Sony placed in their logs "hey look, this is how we're blocking the emulator!" but it doesn't work that way. I've even tried to use gdb to debug and see what's happening and all I know is that the emulator is in an infinite loop or deadlocked as it keeps trying to poll() but nothing is retuned. I suspect Sony may have revoked the license for crash bandicoot 1.0.1, but I believe the license checks are in preinstalledservices.apk but that package is unchanged.

Again, I rarely have free time, so I will give money to whoever finds out how Sony's blocking and how to bypass it.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Cat_On_Droid:
roughly , do you think you can get PSXperia to work on 2.3.4+ by Feb?
[Xperia Play Android Development] stewart1988:
Have SE released kernel sources?

CM7 is based off stock Android correct? So would Sony/Google update/patch system files in the stock Android to fix this issue? I'm guessing it would have to be updated in their custom framework or the kernel. but then that doesn't explain why it doesn't work in CM7... :confused:
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
Count on me... I donate as well whoever puts PSxperia working again :D
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Thanks to 16bitify, I can analyze a japanese pssuite game. First of all, the versioning reset, so we're at 1.0 again. However, the z-platform that the old emulator was compiled for was 0.96.0 but this one is 1.0.4, so I'm sure it's updated. Here's the catch. Even though their "fix" for psxperia on 2.3.4 was good enough, they decided to go all out with pssuite. The emulator is hidden inside a 24MB binary! 24MB! It's going to be hell to crack. Hopefully, this emulator is the holy grail we're looking for, because I don't want to waste any more time. Meanwhile, I guess I'll try to get the 2.3.4 patch working as soon as I have time because it's useless waiting for pssuite now since they updated anyways. ugh.

Oh, the new security is not to stop psxperia, but to stop piracy. They have psn content checks to make sure you bought the game. That's great, but it means it would be hard to implement psxperia 3.0 (2.0 will be for 2.3.4, not ps suite anymore) without bypassing anti-piracy protections. I hope Sony gives a free game out or something when ps suite comes to north America.
[Xperia Play Android Development] siuyau01:
I support you .I hope to use this in 2.3.4 .
[Xperia Play Android Development] Nabeel_Nabs:
Im back -_-... I recently installed crash team racing. However, it does not let me save using the ingame save feature...Any ideas? I can create a save file in both crash bandicoot 3 and digimon world 1.
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Wow, the security on the new emulator is pretty smart. What happens is that the emulator binary sends an encrypted text to sony's PSN servers and it decrypts whatever sony returns and sets a global variable. You can't simply replay this because the secret text is salted with the timestamp or something. However, AFAIK, there isn't any anti-tempering checks, just "did you purchase this game" checks, so I don't think I need to break any anti-piracy protections. That also means that you need to purchase at least one PSN PSX game when PS Suite comes out unless they update Crash bandicoot to use PS Suite's emulator.

I also need beta testers because I do not want to keep bothering 16bitify. If you:

1) Have a japanese PSN account and a japanese credit card and are willing/have purchased a PSX game from PS Suite (as it is out in japan).

2) Know how to use "adb logcat"

3) Have free time

PM me to help beta test PSXperia 3.0.
[Xperia Play Android Development] danaiudo:
Yeh, I think you can do it. You are my hero.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Ireas:
I have anything but the credit card :<
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
At 21 or 22 of this month, I can donate 10€ or 20€ for buying test games... (but still don't have credit card... I must send it for someone buying)
[Xperia Play Android Development] crash_b.:
You can buy a JPN PSN card to put credits on your JPN PSN account, you don't have to use a credit card...
[Xperia Play Android Development] ps3taker:
it is a good idea - I don't want to link a credit card to PSN (non-Japanease) due to them being hacked last year. I can donate via paypal if someone reputable organises this.
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Yes, if someone can give me a Japanese psn card number, development can proceed much faster then me contacting someone to test every time and do it blindly.
[Xperia Play Android Development] ps3taker:
Do you want a donation - would that help you getting the card or anything else you need? I can do $15 if you want.
[Xperia Play Android Development] crash_b.:
I can buy one for you, where do you want me to send it to? PM or something else :confused:
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
PM is fine.
[Xperia Play Android Development] crash_b.:
Please check your pm ;-)
[Xperia Play Android Development] Garner:
Does psxperia work on stock 2.3.4 because i tried to run GTA2 and it fails all the time???
[Xperia Play Android Development] drunkenfcuk:
No, it doesn't work on 2.3.4
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
Hi yifanlu, hi all....

How are things going to this...? are you waiting for ICS comming out or you will release PSXPeria before ICS?

I think tomorow I can donate to this project, so send me PM with instructions for it...

Thanks in advance
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
There is a lack of interest in this project. Both on my part and on other's part. In addition, I looked at the emulator found in pssuite and it's not much newer than crash bandicoot, aka, not much better compatibility. I don't have the time to write the 2.3.3 patch as it would require me to write a dynamic binary patcher and some other stuff that is messy.

And I've always said, if someone could tell me how Sony's blocking psxperia, I'll pay the person and release a fix to remove the patch. Which is easier then writing psxperia 2.0.
[Xperia Play Android Development] acocalypso:
i wouldnt say that, because im checking every day your thread for news,

i love your work and im relly gratefull for your work
[Xperia Play Android Development] crash_b.:
Did you compare the output from psxperia with an official game?

Maybe blocking the emu from accessing the internet would help?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Nhialor:
i check everyday too
[Xperia Play Android Development] bubblegumballoon:
Tbh rather than fighting back and forth for with sonys security updates it will probably just be better for a dev to create an open source PS1 emulator. Its no easy task I know but theres already alot of source code out there to build apon, correct me if im wrong but psx4droid is open source right?

Paul managed to create an open source n64 emulator with xperia play touch pad support so im confident somebody could do the same for the PS1. :)
[Xperia Play Android Development] Cat_On_Droid:
PSXperia was a nice trick though , it made xperia 100% more useful.
[Xperia Play Android Development] CrimsonKnight13:
It would need to rival FPSXe in order to be comptetant & relevant.
[Xperia Play Android Development] bubblegumballoon:
Its pretty hard to beat FPse but even if we had a half decent PS1 emulator with touch pad support that would be a major plus. Plus that would also mean we wouldn't have to rely on PSXperia. The creator of FPse had promised touch pad support months and months ago but he hasn't said anything about it since.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
Psx4Droid is there waiting for some love.
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
I check this everyday as well, and ready to donate for this project... Im shure lots of others are avaiable as well...

I think psx4droid&FPSe needs lots off SD card space saving the .bin's files...

PSXPeria is great for running PSX games... less space, and perfect emulation... I played tekken in psx4droid and FPSe and game dont run as well as I tried medievel on PSXPeria...

Your project is GREAT
[Xperia Play Android Development] ps3taker:
Psxperia is the only reason i am not keen on updating my firmware.
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Thanks for the kind words guys, but as I've said, I don't have much free time and my other projects take priority because I've looked at the pssuite emulator and there was little change. When I say there isn't much interest, I don't mean you enthusiasts. There are maybe 20 or so of you. In addition, more than half the people who promised to pay the original bounty still did not do so. Now, I'm not asking for more support or more donations (in fact don't), as that wouldn't make me magically interested again, but I'm just stating some facts. Don't worry, I will write the patch one day, but I have many other projects that I am working on right now.
[Xperia Play Android Development] CrimsonKnight13:
You're a dev that keeps up on things & that keeps us enthusiasts interested. Thanks for you not forgetting about something you've started. :)
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
Hey... sorry to disagree with you...

- Not kind words... its for real... see the stats for yourself of this topic:

Replies: 903

Views: 110,481

- Wrong again: we are not enthusiasts... this was the reason I bouth Xperia Play... To play my old disc's of psx... Its true: I can use other emulators, but really, they are not half as good as yours... (sorry... I don't want to offense your job, but its true: PSX4droid&FPSxe dont run as smoth and so well as PSXPeria).

- Once again, we are not only 20... I think I can speak for 90% off Xperia Play users, when I say, we want to play our favorites games in our phone...

I understand you have other projects, but I only think you arent seeing the huge off this one... I REALLY REALLY REALLY can't remmember, other best reason for using my play...

I still can say, I can donate before you start doing it... I think others can do it as well...

Other thing... I own still some few disc's off psx, but I cant play it, because psx is broken... But I paid for those games, thats a fact, and still have them... So, Sony Ericsson advertise that we can play psx classics... but they send a patch blocking the best way&native emulator for doing it? Is this fair?

Sony give us very few classics avaible and they block the emulator?

Worst off all, they say we can play our classics, but for doing it, we have to PAY TWICE for the same game to play it propely?... I already own Medieval and I have to pay again to play exactly the same game?!?!

Cant we all complain to Sony to see if they patch this back again?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Cat_On_Droid:
No. Just because you may use it for legal reasons (owning the physical copy) doesn't mean everyone else will. Use fpse for the time being
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
I tried fpse and dont like it...

Hey... this will not stop piracy... I can still get a copy off illegal roms on the net and play it as well...

Im only saying isnt fair to pay twice for Medieval for example... Its one off the games that I own&pay for... Piracy will always be there, and blocking us for playing our own games proprely, isnt Anti-Piracy police... is something else... is wrong publicity
[Xperia Play Android Development] bubblegumballoon:
What about with game consoles, if you bought a game for xbox 360 it doesn't mean you are entitled to a free version of the same game on the PS3. Its costs sony time and money to port older games over to a newer platform, why would they bother paying a team to do it just to give away the games for free? They wouldn't.
[Xperia Play Android Development] feioso:
I can play PSX games on some PS3 models.... And I dont have to pay more... Exactly because I already paid for the games and the device itself... when you advertise you can play your old games, and for first you only put 6 or 10 classic games avaiable, and second you have to pay twice for the same game, its wrong publicity...

Another example (I didnt had it confirmed)... but PS2 can play PS1 games as well... again, you already bouthg the device, and the game... no need to pay more for same thing...

So, its facts:

- They adverstise we can play psx games, but we have no games avaiable...

- Also, they blocked us, from playing our own games...

I dont think this is correct or even etical or fair...

Im not complaing about paying for games that I dont own... put them avaible and im glad to buy some old classics... Im complaing about beeing blocked to play MY GAMES proprely... I bouthg Xplay thinking on that...

EDIT: And your example dont apply to this... Im not begging for playing PSP games... I know I cant, before I buy a play... Im begging to play MY games, on compatible device, and advertised also we can...
[Xperia Play Android Development] bubblegumballoon:
You can play them for free on the PS2 and PS3 because you can use the original disks. The Xperia play doesn't have a disk drive and theres no way sony could possibly know if you owned the original games or not.

The reason there are a lack of games is because sony cant just put every PS1 game on the playstation pocket store, they need to come to some sort of agreement with the original publisher of that game, thats why FF7 took so long to pop up on PSN even though it was a heavily requested game. Also creating a PS1 emulator for android is alot harder than making one for the PS3, the PS3 has alot of brute power so it doesnt need to be optimised for speed where as on the xperia play 1ghz is the bare minimun speed you need to play a PS1 game smoothly. And the PS2 runs PS1 games with hardware so thats why it works so well despite its low specs.

And they dont block you from playing your own games, if they wanted to do that then FPse would have disappeared from the android market a long time ago.
[Xperia Play Android Development] swebosdev:
Umm guys this is sony we are talking about. Kings of removing features they advertise to you. Anyone remeber the ps3 linux fiasco? And when someone worked to bring back said feature, the sued him and got him arrested. Google a guy name graf
[Xperia Play Android Development] Cat_On_Droid:
Nobody used linux, I never knew it existed before the removal. I bet only 2% of people bought the ps3 because of linux. And honestly it didn't affect us at all. People who complained where kids/biased fanboys -_-

What bubble said in his 2 posts were absolutely correct btw. I don't like it either but I have fpse so I'm okay. Don't like fpse? Well too bad you can't play all those psone games at the moment on psxperia
[Xperia Play Android Development] bubblegumballoon:
The way I see it is that when you buy a device you buy it for the way it currently is not the way it might be in the future, The xperia play can handle all my emulators perfectly and honestly thats all I really care about.

The only issue I had when I first got the phone is that there wasn't enough buttons to play n64 games but now that pauls emulator is out that issue has been fixed with touch pad support.

And tbh theres not THAT many games that absolutely require you to have analog sticks to play them, yes it would be nice to have the option to use them with emulators like FPse but they are by no means required.

Also when ICS is released for the xperia play yonghz said he can then implement touch pad support into n64oid without limiting the android version this probably means shtruck could do the same for FPse too and that means yifanlu wouldn't need to crack sonys native emulator anymore. :)
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
I'm not going to argue any more about this because it's pointless, but view counts don't really show much. If one person visits the thread 100,000 times, it will say 100,000. And half the replies are made by me. And still, half the people who said they will pay money for the ability to run PSX games on the play are suddenly quiet. The truth is, that most people have FPse and psx4droid, which are pretty good. I'm not saying I'll stop work on psxperia, just slow work.
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Let's move the party over here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19757414
[Xperia Play Android Development] nickzero:
I was going to buy one. But not just for linux. It would be awesome to have but since they removed it I don't see the point of going out of my way to buy another console.
[Xperia Play Android Development] LordBattleBeard:
Wrong thread. Apologies, didn't mean to resurrect an old thread.
[Xperia Play Android Development] tezlewis1988:
I have got crash using psxperia, but it doesnt show in full screen in 'full screen mode' it has black border lines but the original apk which was preinstalled was able to be in full screen with no borders, i dont understand this!
[Xperia Play Android Development] Nhialor:
Yifanlu, have you tried this with any other isos?
[Xperia Play Android Development] arcticmedia:
good job mate ! This is really a breaktrough !

But one question though do we need a rooted device in order to user your app ?

Regards
[Xperia Play Android Development] MechaBouncer:
When you mentioned save states, did you mean anywhere save states or were you talking about multiple memory cards? Do you think it would be possible to have the ability to also import a memory card file that other emulators use like MCD or MCR? That's assuming that they have a similar format. Thanks!
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
He said it won't be necessary. Still, let us leave a proper timeframe to allow the whole thing to come into fruition.

BTW, Sony has just released an update for Syphon Filters, at least here... Could it be that they're patching the exploit?
[Xperia Play Android Development] crono141:
I doubt they'd be able to move this quickly.

But still, be prepared to be sued. Sony likes to throw its lawyers around.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mills00013:
Oh don't freak the guy out haha.... thats just cold.

They never sued anyone making CFW for the PSP. Well that I know of at least.
[Xperia Play Android Development] yifanlu:
Let it be out there that I respect Sony completely and am against piracy. If they have any complaints, I will take everything down. I have made sure to not use any Sony copyrighted code/images.

Also, anyone knows a good way to sign jars with java code? Aside from runtime.exec()
[Xperia Play Android Development] Dyelon:
Hey yifanlu, so the xperia play analog sticks will really work with this emulator? And what about screen filtering/resolution compared to FPSE?

thanks so much for your dedication
[Xperia Play Android Development] Nhialor:
Yifanlu, how's the gameplay compare to fpse? Gfx smoothing, etc.
[Xperia Play Android Development] quazimojo:
This is all about the controls though to be honest and nothing more. Hence the focus and bounty for the Xperia Play :).
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mills00013:
And a native graphics processing system and other things coded first party. If all goes well, this will be no different than if we were forced to purchase (twice, and sometimes thrice) the same games on the PS store.
[Xperia Play Android Development] quazimojo:
Yep and that part is fantastic but again this whole project was born from Xperia Play is all i am getting it other wise call it Android etc.

This phone deserves more credit then its getting/got so keeping the focus on Xperia Play sounded good from the app naming perspective.

Thank you for all the hard work you have put into this app Yifanlu its beyond much appreciated.