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[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
If I knew there was no possible way they would know they sent me two than I would do what any working man in this type of economy would do. SELL ONE!

Chances are their system knows you have two so I would just call them and let them know. Or call and beat around the bush. Ask vague questions to see if they know you have two.

I know there is going to be some people on here calling ne immoral but o well. Unless you've never done anything wrong in your life than your just preaching to the choir.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] blestsol:
If its not in their system that they sent two I'd keep it. No shame in my game.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] OuncE718:
I agree with the majority. Times are hard and T-Mobile screwed us over with the G2x by offering most of us a myTouch 4g or a G2 as a replacement. Do what you gotta do!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Ok so why would they check my system? And just look for a issue?

I don't see them finding out even with it in the system.... cause what's that mean? Ok in there system? How do they go, oh woops we accidently sent him two. Hell they barely know anything ....

Even if in system how will it get back to me when they get a original back...?

Tmobile.com doesnt even show any order placed... They did it directly through the loyalty department and telesales...

If they get there phone back and there not charging for either, why would they hassle me?

I get there system could show they sent me two, but if they don't catch it now, why would they later? And why would they just search my account going huh? Lol especially if I lay low and not call em...

I'm gonna take my chances and play dumb if they find out... not my fault, hell maybe they told me they were sending me a free one for my troubles? Lol

EDIT: Hell if anything ill just hold onto it for a bit and see if they catch it within a couple weeks. If not, I should be good. If so, Ill just send back.

MEH, I think if this is their fubar. I just play stupid. HUH, I have 2 lines with g2xs, I thought they were sending 2. lol
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
also, wouldnt it be better their both in their system? instead of 1 not being in it? cause then that phone disappears and now its got to be tracked and theres a signature? Where as this way, its accounted for, and not missing. Its delivered?

I dont know. I think Im gonna hang onto it for about a month and see what they do. I just dont see how they can make 2 orders send them, get the phone back they wanted and still catch it. If 2 was just sent with only 1 order, that IMO sounds worse.

Like Jw had happen, Tmobile told him to keep his G2x when he got a sensation also. Maybe they sent me 2 for my troubles hell. Like I said, maybe I said I even called and they told me dont worry about it and just keep it. Now im being charged?

Tmobile and their notes are so all over the place I think I could even get out of it If I needed too.

WHO knows.

IF both phones are on a separate order, and both are delivered, and the defective one gets back. Wheres there a issue to them? like I said they dont know what a rep did for me. The last rep could have hooked me up. Like they did JW
[T-Mobile LG G2x] unique77:
If you got tracking numbers for both, they will know for sure you received two. Not worth the risk of you selling it only to have tmobile suddenly slap an over 200 bill in your account.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
again. how would they even go about finding out? both phones are sent, delivered. Paid. Dont see how they could charge me later.

My point is, ok, they see 2 orders. Now what? and who sees it? Is there a person just randomly looking at accounts for weirdness?

I just dont see the scenario where they all the sudden just randomly audit my account and go hmmmm . Why are there 2 phones sent.

BOTH PAID, sent, Delivered. Now bam its just notes in the past now. They get the phone back they wanted. HOW CAN THEY TELL? ya the notes or online will show 2 phones sent, but again, bills and etc are computer automated generated. So if it shows no charges. HOW CAN I BE BILLED?

I can see if I paid 249 for one. Got sent two and was like ****. the paperwork also says 249. THEY BOTH Say PAID.

SCENARIO: rep just randomly looks, sees 2 phones, and just sends me a bill? The phone is out of their hands.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KeithLM:
If two have been sent separately then each is going to have its own RMA number. If that RMA number is not scanned in by T-Mobile's receiving department then in all likelihood your account will be hit with an unreturned item fee.

So in order to avoid a lot of unnecessary hassle with your account you need to call them and tell them what happened. They will then tell you to either refuse one or which package to use for your original phone and which one to use for the extra.

Ideally it'd be nice to receive both and test each to see which is the least problematic (I just don't have faith that any G2X is actually fully reliable) and then return the buggiest. However you only have a one week before they'll tack on that unreturned item fee, and while I'm sure they'll refund it once they get the phone, it's just more work for you.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Im just trying to find all loop holes. WHO IS THEY? the computer? Or Reps? cause if I didnt call for say 2 months, then what? who sees it? There both paid, not cost anything. WHO SEES IT?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
No I dont think thats true. Cause the phone Im replacing now, which was brand new, came with a RA number/sticker and I didnt have to send anything back. So, if they didnt get anything back but sent a RA number, why didnt they charge me?

Also the new phones are coming just like this. NEW, not exchanges. So, just like this one I have now, With the RA number, Ill keep one, just set it aside for a bit and see what happens, and then the other one ill send my replacement back.

I see what your getting at with the RA number but again, my new device had one also and it needed no return. So I dont think the new package would be treated any different.

EDIT: so, again ill cover my tail. Not open the box just hold onto it. Then if charged or issues Ill just return it. They will credit my account back. Ill just say I forgot about it, been very busy and should have returned it. Give it till next billing cycle and if Im in the clear. Do what I need with it. You would think that if they will find out after the fact. They would have found out before they were sent. I mean, same time within 20 mins of each other, they couldnt figure that out, but yet they will figure out after the fact? MEH call me a believer but I think Im golden.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
I wish i could get sent 2 that way i could hold up the wobbly legs of my table on both sides.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KeithLM:
After I received my replacement I sat on it a few days before doing anything with it and waited 6 days before returning the original and then 1 week to the day from which I received it I got a text from T-Mobile kindly reminding me to return it. No charge was put on my account as they received it that day or the next.

Just because there was an RMA sticker with your first doesn't mean anything. In the fulfillment department they would probably scan the box they are shipping you and enter it as a new or replacement device. If it's a replacement then there is a timed event placed in their database set up to activate on the RMA sticker that is being sent to you. If it is not scanned within a certain period you'll be charged.

This is an automated event. No one is sitting around looking at people's accounts to determine if something is expected from them.

You can play dumb and try and pretend that you didn't receive it, although I received e-mails from them telling me my phone had been delivered, so they are tracking it. You'll know within 1-2 weeks whether or not they are expecting two phones returned from you. If you try to rip off T-Mobile just wait before doing anything with the spare phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Ok, now that makes some sense.

Yea, sounds like maybe they could know in that mannor, but, will see. Hopefully they are sent as new devices and not a replacement. Ill do my research up till then and see whats up. Ill definitely See whats up but your post made good sense. THis is why I made the thread. To see which actually happens..

EDIT: the way they had to do the exchange/new phone was like just having a new order. Not replacement. cause of some loop hole. So maybe since the had to do it that way they wont have the replacement RA number. WHO knows. LOL

but interesting and Im gonna play a lil

also, i just remembered that I before have gotten order placed/ replacement placed texts also. Ive yet to receive these. I think because were going around the usual way to get me the phone. So I dont know. cause even online under recent order info on MYTMOBILE.COM it doesnt show any orders placed either. VERY strange.

even when I call 611 it doesnt have any info on orders. It just says my old order that was already shipped that im replacing. GONNA KEEP A EYE ON THAT. I think the way they had to loop around may help
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
If you are a thief, you are a thief. If you are a honest good person, you are a honest good person. This should not be a difficult decision.

If I can screw you out of a few hundred bucks, should I? Based on many responses I should rip you off for all I can.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mikew29:
Give them 60-90 days from when they shipped you the phones. after that, they don't have a leg to stand on. (this is of course unless they contact you about it prior to 90 days)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
lol I love your response. HEHE Make me sound like a theif and if I do this im no good. LMFAOOO. that said. Im doing it. Hmmmm I think like this. Ive spent hours of time fighting just for a replacement. Bought a g2x full price, vibrant full price, sensation for 300 and had it replaced like crazy in which they also forgot once to send a replacement so I waited a week for nothing. Pay 160 a month. Blah blah. So in a year ive spentttt?

about 1300 on phones alone. 160x12= 1,920 dollars. Waiting for mad time for replacements cause they put out crap (sensation) and half the lgs lol. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Im gonna play a lil

ALSO, IF I screwed you over half the time, overcharged you, throttled you for what your paying for, had service shotty, rude customer service, forgot some orders, charged you fees etc. Then yes, BY ALL MEANS PLEASE IF I DROP MY WALLET, take that ***** I deserve it :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Erickomen27:
Had This Happen To Me, They Sent Me 2 G2x's Instead Of One, I Decided To Send It Back, They Were Generous Enough To Call Me And Give Me A Credit Of One Bill Cycle Paid, Never Bite The Hand That Feeds You.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Thank god they dont feed me. :):D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
:rolleyes:You can rationalize stealing any way you want.

I don't care how much you spent. If you cant afford it, don't spend it. It still does not justify stealing. If you are going to be a thief at least be comfortable with your new role. Don't pretend it is not stealing.

You asked for opinions, so I gave mine. To a few out there, right and wrong matter. If you feel good about stealing, then steal. Just don't ***** when you get ripped off. Oh wait....to late. You have already *****ed about Tmo, so of course the obvious thing to do is steal from them. Two wrongs equals a right, especially if you get a traffic ticket you can't afford. Got it. Thanks.

No wonder this country is so screwed up.

I am sick and tired of the "me first" and "I'm entitled" mentality. Do the right thing instead of making the rest of us pay with increased costs to cover your theft.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
There is hope. :)

There is nothing wrong with doing the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
I never said your opinion was wrong or not needed... I can take the heat, I made the thread and asked, you answered, thanks for that opinion.. : ) although your acting like a baby...lol

You can do what you wish, but lets not be a biznitch huh? I've paid my dues before you question my credibility...

Your opinion is one thing, acting like im molesting a monkey is just crazy...lol
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
meh...I tried. no harm, no foul. I'll still read your posts.;)

As I have gotten older, doing the right thing has become more and more important to me, and it always comes back ten fold. That is all.

getting down from the pulpit.:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
This really ought to be posted in Reddit's "First World Problems" sub.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
Seriously, if this is what you contribute then there's not much reason for any adults to give you much benefit of the doubt.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
edited due to possible banment.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Krooked22:
I say wait twenty days, see if the say anything about it

You would not wanna be charged for one.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Thats my plan.. :D

Mods please close before people start getting upset... Chill all just a question.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
Ah, get over yourself. You posted an ethical question to a device forum. And, really, it smacked of "hey, guys! look at me!". And then you proceed to be a **** to people and presume that having a bunch of comments here is somehow license to do so. This really doesn't even belong here.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
I have to wonder about people that use internet forums as their moral compass. I think his intent was to see how he could get away with it. Why does he feel the need to "get away with it"? Because he knows it is wrong.

I had to laugh at his "cred", when at the same time he is asking whether he should steal a phone.

anyway, gotta run. I have to give some Jesus juice to my monkey to get him in the mood.:eek:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
You two above are so butthurt you didn't get sent two phones its not even funny .. Lmaoooo

Thanks for the entertainment .. Wambulance to the left gents...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAeA7V6ifgI&feature=youtube_gdata_player :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
You're a tard and I'm surprised you can even read along.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Hehehe like that huh.? :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] burhanistan:
No, you're all LOL and dumbspeak and really lacking in self-awareness. Good luck with that.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ThC23:
I'm curious to what happened to the previous post about two months ago that was going through the same thing.

He would be able to answer your question best.

If he got caught or if he didn't.

I just got a replacement last week, but it was an empty box. Maybe you got the one I was supposed to get.

....
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Of course he knows its wrong. He's not a retard. Some people like myself can do wrong and immoral things and not loose one bit of sleep. I call it a gift. :-)

Just sell it man. T-Mobile has more money than you'll ever have. A $500 phone is change you find in your couch to them. Besides, T-Mobile is selling you and everyone here out. They could give a **** less about us so why give a **** about them.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Another thing I was thinking as well. Thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] DAN THE MAN5150:
Hopefully Someone that works at T-Mobile doesn't see this post, loose lips sink ships
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
you will get busted. they track where each phone is shipped. when they do their inventory count at the end of the month or quarter, you'll get found out.

But since you asked, stealing is wrong no matter what kinda spins people put on it. Add some cheese to it, some meat, sour cream, whatever.. it's still stealing under all the garbage that is meant to make it look better.

But then again, I don't think you wanted such an opinion because from the looks of it, you disagreed with anyone who said was wrong. So why did you really ask the question?

What does your mom/dad/aunts/uncles/grandma/grandpa say? I bet you didn't bother asking them... and when they say "it's stealing", I also bet you don't argue with them like you do with strangers on the internet, lol.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Only 1. Meh. Was a nice plan..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ciaphuas:
First I wouldn't post this on a public forum, and two you should keep them unless asked otherwise
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Suprah:
Mr Jesus himself huh

That's what she said...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
I'd keep the second one, and just wait to see if they come after you... If they don't, I'd just sell it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Pfffffffffft
[T-Mobile LG G2x] andrewxu:
So what happened?

Sent from my googol fone
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Ducter:
You know honestly the phone needs to be sent back. Its just not right and you know that.

Given that, what I have been through with T-Mobile and these damn G2X's...run, run hard for all of us that have been shafted by them. But dont run till you are sure they dont know...maybe more like walk real fast lol. It would be a hard thing for me to just send it back, although its the right thing to do without question.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Whitehawkx:
First of all, this post should never have been made. Soon as it's found I imagine it will be deleted. Also as ppl have stated, it's very easy for someone with T-mobile to see this.

Assuming this thread was never created, it's a moral decision that's up to you. The police and FBI and CIA are not going to waste time coming to get your 2nd phone that was shipped to you. After about 1-2 months T-mobile and UPS will start calling you to confirm if the phone was delivered. You might want to check your account to make sure it doesn't say you still have a phone waiting to be returned.

When T-mobile/UPS calls you about the phone. It's up to you whether you want to lie or not.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] PseudoChris:
Many Cable, ISP, and Phone companies lie and make "mistakes" all the time.

They overcharge people for services they don't use or make "mistakes" on your billing and won't notify you that you're being overcharged.. (Comcast & AT&T are notorious for this)

If you think it's wrong to take advantage of a mistake made by a company that makes thousands of dollars a year on 'unused' services or 'overcharged billing' then go work for one of them, you'll fit right in.

I wouldn't get all giddy before actually receiving the mistake in the mail though, or post your plan to "undermine" a company who will undoubtedly have techs who browse this site regularly.

If you ever receive something for free from one of these companies, just be grateful that luck was on your side, or believe god wanted to pay for your speeding ticket. Whatever makes you happy. Just keep it to yourself, because the company certainly won't see it as a blessing in disguise.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
So,I know in one post I said the second never showed, but, I lied lol. I got 2, and sold 1, tried them both. Thank god I got 2 cause the first they sent out the two also had bad issues, the second, perfect.. Haven't been charged at all, and by this point, I won't.. I love a working g2x...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beekersguy:
I don't see where there's a question. Yeah, stuff's tough right now for everybody. That doesn't justify taking or accepting something that's not yours.

There's no right way to do the wrong thing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] noobletsausecakebbq:
Just keep quiet and if **** hits the fan act innocent and say you only asked for one
[T-Mobile LG G2x] shovelhead83:
Agreed!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] joshkoss:
ok, i'm closing down this thread.

This really shouldn't have been posted.

1 it's a moral decision that you have to make yourself and i think roping everyone into this debate could have really turned into a mess. and 2, it's just wrong. ethically wrong.

Xda doesn't support this kind of behaviour.

Peace,

Josh
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jacob808:
I love my g2x, it's just that there is one irritating flaw, one very tiny piece of white dust under the screen.

The only way you can actually tell is if I'm under sunlight and I look for it.

I've searched the internet and found videos on how to disassemble phones and remove the dust, but only for I phone and blackberry, nokia etc. nothing for g2x yet.

Can someone please make a tutorial our suggest an easier proven way? I seriously don't want to exchange this handset for another one. I'm not sure if t mobile would even exchange it for this problem.

I know dust under the screen is a huge problem for htc and it's sensation, can any one who items the sensation and had the dust problem confirm if t mobile will exchange it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] fpdragon:
hi!

I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.

One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?

Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.

The second thing is maybe a software thing.

I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.

So for music and navigation:

Tab <-> CarRadio

For phone calls:

Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio

The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?

Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^

Hope somebody can help with any information.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Bear Knuckles:
interested in this
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] gavin watson:
+1

me too
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] fpdragon:
maybe someone has a good link to the asus support?
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] gavin watson:
oops, sorry
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] tonyz3:
Something to consider when designing.

Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.:cool:
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] fpdragon:
Thanks...

Bluetooth battery burn would be no problem since I want to load the battery over the car. Anyway... I'm afraid that there won't be something like a "bluetooth router" so I have to use the analog audio out. That brings me to my first question: I need the pinout of the asus connector to control the tab over the steering wheel control.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] maxpower47:
I don't think anyone's figured out a pinout yet, and even if they do, it wont be as simple as "this contact is for play, this one is for skip, etc". All those most likely go through a usb interface. Not that that would be impossible, but if you're using bluetooth your headunit should support AVRCP for sending those commands over bluetooth. Most android devices only support 1.0 right now, but that still gives you play/pause, stop, next, previous, maybe ff and rewind too.
[Eee Pad Transformer Accessories] Narog:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.

Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.

Have fun.