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[HTC Sensation] radiikal:
is it worthwhile to root???

so, what all u guys are saying, if i root my sensation, i may not be able to power on the phone if i fully drained the battery during day to day use, even if i plug in the charger???

no wonder i can't boot up my phone! i went to the service center to complain abt the battery being bad, and luckily they gave me a replacement on the spot!

so my next question, is it worth the risk and hassle of rooting sensation and ended up with the whole day looking for a charger just to make sure i dont fully drain the battery?

i guess, for me, for the time being at least, i unroot my sensation and went back to stock until this issue is fixed...

too bad i can't contribute more on fixing this issue...it's a shame, really, for me....

thx for the discussion, guys!

keep it up!
[HTC Sensation] pr0x2:
It's already been fixed for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300

STEP 2. To INSTALL Clockwork Recovery mod- v4.0.1.4 UPDATED 03-AUG-11 - CHARGING ISSUES FIXED
[HTC Sensation] radiikal:
THIS HAS GOTTA BE A JOKE! i just unroot it! hahahahahaha

ok, operation re-root commencing now...hahahhaa

thx thx thx for the pointer!

edit:

yes, it seems to charge the phone, but in actual fact, it doesn't...today, my phone was on abt 50%, and i want to charge it back to 100%. 2 hours later just to find it went down to abt 20%! and this was with the LED light on and charging symbol in notification bar! which means its a "fake" charge! i reboot the phone, charged for 8 min, it still stuck at 20%!

i removed CWM, flash back stock rom, and now it's charging normally!

so, CWM is still not fixed and it's not stable as it worked fine yesterday...sigh...
[HTC Sensation] bless306:
Hey everyone! So my brother was playing on my phone last night and the phone died coz of no battery and now it wont turn on. :( I rooted the phone completely 2 days ago. Can someone please help me out? Will the phone turn on if I get another battery? Or is there any other way to solve this? Thank you!
[HTC Sensation] alvaradorocks:
Please read from the beginning of the thread one more time...

To get you started try one of these:

Leave your phone plugged in to you pc for a while, maybe that will get it running.

or:

get a usb cable that works but that you don't mind killing.

Splice it to discover a red and black wire. Plug the red one to (+) and the black one to (-) on your battery, get some tape and leave it for about an hour or two.

Once you get some charge in there, boot that baby up and check out the dev threads for the right recovery (4.0.1.4). You have to get this recovery from xda and don't update it with rom manager!
[HTC Sensation] sonnykaiboy:
I totally have that on my phone too! The first time i ever seen it i was like hey there's not supposed to be a light there hahaha!
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
Most stupid idea you ever had. This method can not only damage the battery, but also make it explode, set fire, and/or kill you.

If you do not use voltage AND current limiters, you are going to kill the battery for good (and for sure), and probably also your goods around the place where you will do that.

I explained how to limit current and voltage the easy way in a previous post.

Any over-current, I will not say *can* but *WILL* damage the battery. Where as a simple resistor (20R from memory) will rescue the battery correctly. Start with 30R.

4.9V are way *enough* to make it explode.

And 3.6V are not needed to boot the phone. If you have a working SYSTEM, 3.35 are enough to start the system, then, let the phone charge it up to ... at least 50%.

Single diode to lower the voltage does NOT fix the issue. Resistor is absolutely REQUIRED.

And all 4.0.1.4 CWM are not affected. Author did the most stupid thing that could ever be done on Internet, the most stupid thing a clever and intelligent developer could do: the "latest 4.0.1.4" does fix the issue; but, the fixed version have been published under the same name, version name, and URL !!! So that, depending on the date you downloaded 4.0.1.4, you maye have the old broken, or newly working version. And Rom Manager installs 4.0.1.5 that is broken. So, if you read somewhere that 4.0.1.4 is fixed (what is partly wrong), and just thing that any later version are fixed, such as 4.0.1.5 ... you are just wrong !!! -- angry for life against him just because of that.
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
well i dont have any prob with my battery, my battery has 48h life
[HTC Sensation] Jimx2:
Or a faster way, is if you let it charge for like a minute, unplug, pull out battery, put it back, and turn it on then let it charge again.
[HTC Sensation] jonnunez:
this sucks.. went out last night phone died in my pocket, tried the pc usb charge.. NOTHING.. phone dead, life sucking, ahhhh
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
Did you check the voltage ?
[HTC Sensation] fredrick90005:
OMG, thanks to this thread my phone came back from the graveyard! LOL....Now i plan to go back on stock...is there a safe way?
[HTC Sensation] techsoldier:
Fixed

method one by lalitsehgal21 worked great for me.

Thanks, you guys are the best

-method one by lalitsehgal21

1. Take a spare usb cable.

2. cut it from between.

3. Peel two wires black and red from tip.

4. connect black to (-) point and red to (+) point on batt and secure it via tape.

5. plug it in any power source usb or charger.

6. lve for 20 mins have coffee.

7. remove it and put in fone.

8. Last shot as its almost discharged keep charger plugged in till it rches 50 then flash new recovery.

9. Buy me coke.....coz i dt like beer

method one by lalitsehgal21 worked great for me.

Thanks, you guys are the best
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
10: buy a new battery on dealxtreme because you just killed your batt

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/designer-s-replacement-3-7v-1600mah-for-htc-g14-sensation-z710e-72823

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...harger-w-usb-port-for-htc-sensation-g14-91185

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ac-pow...-adapter-usb-port-for-htc-sensation-g14-72841
[HTC Sensation] mrpanic7:
ok for anyone who runs into this problem. no do not first say its your battery. ESPECIALLY if its lighting up the LED DUH!!!! anyway i had this problem, LED would only flash a few blips stay steady then nothing, and all i did to fix this was the first steps in the post, HOWEVER i only had to hold the red/black wires to the battery for a few minutes then put into device and WALLAH!!!! got HTC splash screen and plugged in the regular charger and all is well now!:D
[HTC Sensation] raybez:
I had 4.0.1.5 CW recovery installed when my battery emptied. I couldn't get the battery to charge hooking up the power leads from a USB cable directly to the bat. What I did was hook the black/red wires to the -/+ leads on the phone, stick the battery back in and tape everything down.

After that, I installed the NEW 4.0.1.4 (yes, the awfully versioned, BLUE - not PURPLE and certainly not ORANGE) CW recovery from the first post in the first sticky in the development forum while the phone was being powered by these jump leads and everything charges just fine now.

I've heard that some people have no problems with the 4.0.1.5 recovery but for me it didn't work, in fact it was worse than the original PURPLE 4.0.1.4. But the BLUE 4.0.1.4, linked to in the above mentioned post works just fine. Be really careful flashing while the jump leads are hooked up, make sure fiddling with the volume/power pads won't disconnect the leads while flashing otherwise you're bricked.

Saved me $50 on a new battery but I consider myself lucky the phone didn't turn off while flashing.
[HTC Sensation] jf1288:
happen to me as well, im using CWM 4.0.1.5. Phone died on me, wouldnt boot up when plugged. After reading and searching through the forums, I tried the USB splitting method. I plugged splitted USB to comp, lined up the red/black wires to the +/- leads on battery for about 1 minute or 2. Placed battery back in phone, hooked up charging cable to phone from comp, my phone booted right up.

Thanks everyone who posted on this thread, helped me tons.
[HTC Sensation] sayyas:
it works thanks
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
nice that i could help ;)
[HTC Sensation] Badcam:
Worked for me.

Thanks Argh9. I too did this to resolve my battery issue, as I didn't have any tape. It worked. I only held the wires against the battery for around three minutes, but that was enough to get the Sensation to come to life, when the charger cable was connected. I also have the latest PG58IMG.zip so that didn't make a difference.

Thank goodness for this thread. Kudos to you Vladnosferatu! I salute you.
[HTC Sensation] GiZZy:
Another way to do it:

1. cut out a strip of plastic that covers only the middle 2 pins between the battery and the phone

2. plug phone in charger

3. place strip between battery and phone on the 2 middle pins

4. put battery in place (2 middle pins isolated)

5. wait to charge for about 10 minutes

6. remove everything, plug battery in and power on
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
GiZZy your method sounds way better than first one :)

- easier for people to find a bit of paper

- using phone internal current limiter

- no need to cut wire or kill any USB device

I will try it :)
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
if this method work, i will put it on the 1 post,

thanks gizzy
[HTC Sensation] anarchyuk:
people have been doing this for years and years, nokia 8210's started the mian onset of this fix due to not charging the baqttery when fully dead lol
[HTC Sensation] juangil:
it works Ty

I can confirm, this method Works!! :D

Thank you!!
[HTC Sensation] 3c:
Using v4.0.1.4 because v5 has known issues charging the battery, it's actually the recommended version (v4).

I often discharge the battery until it's completely dead (for calibration purpose) and all I have to do is charge for 30 seconds to 1 minute and switch on the phone (still plugged)... Worked all the time!

The lowest voltage I managed to get the phone booting is at 3171mv, see screen shot!
[HTC Sensation] stoneyjonez:
[rant]

Sorry, but this is like the 4th time today I saw someone use this dumb word. WTF IS WALLAH? IT IS NOTHING. IT IS NOT A WORD. Dammit I am tired of seeing this everywhere. Normally I don't like to go out of my way to correct grammar and typos, but this has been pissing me off. Sorry, had to get that off my chest. BTW, you may mean voila, which is pronounced the same way, but is a REAL word. :D

[/rant]
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
ccounotte read my new signature below ...

They have first published 4.0.1.4, then 4.0.1.5, then, they fixed the bug in the source of 4.0.1.4 and published the fixed version under the old revision number 4.0.1.4, and have put the new file at place of old file on server, so that we can download the NEW content at OLD link.

The fix is not in the latest number 4.0.1.5 pointed by apps that rely on version number (like Rom Manager does); and the freshest content is under the old number. Biggest number ver does NOT have the fix that have been put afterwards in the previous version ...

Those who did that should be hanged. They are killing bats for fun.
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
ccounotte Adnroid can not record any value below that for two reasons:

- it's the trigger value where Android will go into sleep mode.

- below 3.0V, the hardware will turn the phone down whatever hapens

Still, as CWM has bugs, it will never go in sleep mode, so that CWM can let voltage go down to 3.0 very easily.

Under this voltage, the phone will refuse to boot; and since the Recovey software is REQUIRED to recharge the batt, if you can't start recovery, you can't charge.

To get down to 2.78 like me, ge down to 3.0, and keep pressing the power button. The few volts will try to init the electronics, start recovery, detect failure, and shotdown. Idid that several times before I could understand that sth was going wrong. Below 3.0, electronics will just won't have enough power to start recovery, and put the "allow charge" flag ON.

With a normal working recovery, just around 3.0 the debug mode will start and start charge.

With the bug, CWM will never start charge after a power failure: charge used to be done only in Android: putting charger switch phone on, start recovery, and does not start charge => drains batt down. Now that the issue is fixed, CWM will charge the batt in rescue debug mode after power failure.

Voltages below 3.1 can only be measured manually with Vmeter, because phone internal loggers are all out of service (loggers require a running software).
[HTC Sensation] pacut:
Few (silly?) questions:

1 buying an external battery charger wouldn't be easier?

2 why CWM does it affect (negatively) charging behaviour of device when it is in off state?

3 blue, green, orange...what're a mess! I have coredroid 2.1 on board, with its CWM / recovery ( I assume). What should I do to ensure I am not going to get a second ruined battery?

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] sk8dayfuknight:
hahahhaha10chrcters
[HTC Sensation] jreed3786:
It's a fact, bro...that about 8 out of 10 posts anywhere online will have so many grammatical errors, that it would appear a kindergartener wrote them. It's sad. The way people type, is also indicative of the way they talk, and this really, unfortunately, shows the dumbing down of our education system. Typos are one thing, blatant disregard for basic english language; on the other hand...is pitiful. Grow up folks and speak like your grandma was listening. As for WALLAH, I could see how that one could have gotten twisted about, in society. No harm, no foul.

:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
pacut it used to be for my previous phone; bought mine, waiting for delivery.

CWM: because of bugs; badly written app; or sth the author forgot, or maybe someth specific to Sensation he did not know, or never saw before. Technical details are complicated. The fact is that, the hardware can not just charge the battery at any time; in our phone, charger must be activated by software. If software has a mistake ... does not do it.

The mess is about CWM versions; they made the newser release under the older number. (see my sig). To not ruin an other batt, you must charge your bat to 100% before any reboot, and never spend more than 1h in CWM. Assume that 100%=2h . Never go flash or backup with less than 40%. Colors help the dev to know which version you are using. Since version number are not reliable, changing the color is an alternative; but since the color is not part of file name, this only helps the dev; not users. Color helps him making the difference between the old 4.0.1.4 and the newer one. My problem is that ... reading a color on a screen is subjective, and I don't know all english words for all colors (the variation between blue and purple may be very thin).

WALLAH sounds like an arabic word, close for me to sth like *nothing*, whereas voila means in french *here you are*, but english people can not pronounce properly the V french sound, and usually voice is like W (wagon). Also could be a short for Vahlalah, which is Heaven in some stories.
[HTC Sensation] tomnyc:
Worked!

This worked for me. :D Thanks!!! Really happy was able to do fix this without doing the stripped USB cable method.
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
can you post some photos, to put in on the first post ;)

thanks
[HTC Sensation] pacut:
Doublehp: it is clear now. I have replaced CWM with the new one, blue menu, and what I can say it is that blue is The worst color I guess. Anyhow....it is what it has to be.

Regarding the last mentioned method, The one with little peace of plastic, I'd say it could destroy The SENSATION as long as The battery could esplode or get fired without power control. Am I wrong?
[HTC Sensation] Badcam:
I've found that I can't get the battery to charge from the USB ports on my laptop, but if I use any USB port on my desktop, the battery charges, to a high enough point, within minutes.
[HTC Sensation] ArcanaXVIII:
Should the led be flashing when charging this way? Mine doesn't, so maybe I'm doing it wrong.
[HTC Sensation] martinez5241:
this is what i did:

I used a band-aid. I cut the band-aid vertical in the middle, made a strip thick enough to cover the two middle squares on the battery. Since you cut the strip vertical, it will have the sticky part (it will stick to the battery). Place the battery back on the phone and connect it to the usb/wall charger. (before putting the cover back on the phone, make sure the two middle pins are touching the band-aid strip)

wait 10-15mins (the led light will not turn on)

unplug phone from charger

remove phone cover, remove battery, and take off the band-aid strip .

Insert the battery back, put cover back on

plug in your phone

then press the power button!

Like magic, your phone will* power on :) (*may not work for some)

hahahaha, a bandaid to fix a battery, how clever!

You have no idea how exciting it is to see your phone power on, i was freaking the heck out, lol. Now that i can sleep in peace, goodnight and good luck peoples!
[HTC Sensation] pacut:
I bought a 2nd battery, turned on the device, replaced CWM, reinstalled the 1st battery...and....voila' ! It is charging back again.

Now I have a 2nd battery too. Not to bad, at the end.

I am gonna buying a cradle/charger with 2nd slot for additional battery.

Ciaoooo
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
pacut you are right; but people doing this usually stay around. But the probability to get an explosion is VERY SMALL. I say that plastic bit could damage the phone, and paper should be prefered. But, it only disconnects the probe or sensor (probably temp sensor, or I2C bus). What can make the battery explode is over current, over voltage, or over temp.

Over current or overvoltage are quiet impossible with this method. Unlike the cutting USB cable method ... which IS VERY DANGEROUS !!! Really, over A or V is impossible when the batt remains in the phone.

About over temp ... it's almost impossible to have over temp with a charger that can not do over A or V. Overheat only occurs during fast charge modes (less than 1h, down to 20mn). HTC does slow charge, over 4h. So, over temp is almost impossible as well.

So, the paper method could make explosion more probable than normal charge, but, REALY REALLY REALLY less probable than directly putting the bat on 5V USB without any kind of protection.

ArcanaXVIII no, LED should not flash with paper method.

pacut wall charger on deal extreme for 8 USD including shiping.
[HTC Sensation] robocik:
thanks mate, this thread saved my life, was about to get heart attack this morning ;) hehe

thanks again.
[HTC Sensation] rishi06:
ok this has officially gotten unsufferable now. I switched from CWM to the teamwin recovery, yet it still won't power on.

Last night my batt was around 29%, I plugged it on charger, the led flashed once then remained on and I thought ok, no problem, and turned off the phone. This morning it wouldn't power on. I tried the plastic strip method, with just a little piece of tape, and it has worked three times already (yeah, I just don't understand what "low battery" means anymore) and when I did managed to turn phone on, it said 2%. So is it the recovery, or maybe a battery calibration problem? I've had inaccurate percentage over the past week...
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
with the cwm 4.0.1.4 you will have no problem ;)
[HTC Sensation] smsrat84:
I just used post 1 to get me battery back up to 3.6v. Started my phone, went to CWM, rebooted into recovery. I am running 4.0.1.5, and its orange, but it will not charge while phone is off.....:confused:
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
no will not,

flash 4.0.1.4
[HTC Sensation] ekimdork:
im running coredroid 2.2 and clockwork 4.0.1.5 .... i had the same problem and lost my mind... after doing some reading i changed one setting and wa la... it now charges...

goto: "setting"

scroll down and select "power"

at the bottom of the page "uncheck" fastboot...

it worked on both HTC Sensations that i have.. neither would charge the dead battery now they both will... now if somebody could help me sim unlock this... that would be great :D ! lol Let me know if this works for the rest of you...
[HTC Sensation] bradmill08:
please help

all my phone dose is ****ing blink the LED light. i am getting very very frustrated and am about to break my phone. can someone please help. i flashed clockwork crappy mod 5 yesterday. and now my phone will not charge what is the easiest way to have it turn on. i do not want to do the usb method cause i only have 1 usb cable can someone please help me thanks in advance.
[HTC Sensation] bradmill08:
i got the phone battery working

all you have to do is put a piece of paper between the 2 middle squares on the battery and put it back in the phone. hook the battery up to the charger for about 15 minutes. after the 15 minutes unhook the charger and remove the paper and turn on your phone and you are good to go. i spent 3 hours trying things and this worked for me i hope it works for you good luck !!!! now CWM 4 here i come
[HTC Sensation] Nauren:
Knowing that the Sensation was similar to the Evo, 3D I asked a friend if I could see how his battery fit. It sort of does. It will stay, and the contact polarity matches, you just have to push it in backwards.

So I flashed one that works while using his battery, then charged my battery The phone off.
[HTC Sensation] Sum14u2nvy:
Didn't work for me :(. I called HTC and told them my battery had died and the offered to send me a free battery. So I thought eh, what the hell. Might as well try and get this battery to work. But didn't work :(. Did it work for anybody?
[HTC Sensation] nevespm1:
Hi there,

This happened to me yesterday. I tried method 1 with success. It took me about 2 hours to get to 3,6V but it did boot up afterwards.

One question:

I flashed the latest recovery i think it's 5.08 how can I know that it doesn't have the same non charging issue?

Regards
[HTC Sensation] GabrielSousa:
the last recovery is 5.0.2.0

and changes drain batteries ;)
[HTC Sensation] y0:
Please see this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1257737

i have bricked sensation with Revolutionary now i cant boot the phone but its been detecting on computer as QCOM QD LOADER.Anyone have the similar experience?
[HTC Sensation] michael79ok:
Thank you I tried the other methods and couldnt get them to work. Yours worked great the first time!
[HTC Sensation] d0cx:
I can confirm that this worked for me. The tape and isolating the two middle contacts worked.
[HTC Sensation] HiImGrey:
I love you.
[HTC Sensation] Matt1408:
I had my phone displaying as something similar. Basically, the phone is in download mode and there are no solutions yet to take advantage of this, yet.
[HTC Sensation] stylus1828:
My Sensation died when I tried to get S-ON. Now I'm getting QHSUSB_DLOAD. What can I do?
[HTC Sensation] metalmilo12:
My Htc Sensation is dead and wont charge

This has never happened to me before because I phone has never been this dead before. I plug it in and no lights come one at all. I took everything out of the phone and put everything back in and nothing. When plugged in nothing at ALL happens. please help, I miss my phone.
[HTC Sensation] doublehp:
We can't help you, because you don't read.
[HTC Sensation] Papuchar:
my dad's Sensation just went down this road and I tried this method twice and it still hasn't powered up :( any ideas? anybody? please help...

EDIT: i've just tried to turn it on with the battery from my own Sensation, and nothing - the phone won't turn on! HELP ME PLEASE!

EDIT 2: now I tried to connect it to a PC, and the sanavagun poped up a qhsusb_dload message... it seems as a new Sensation is coming...
[HTC Sensation] harish.toy:
After flashing my sensation 4g is not coming up the battery is fully charged.please help me
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
When you connect it to your computer, what comes up?