yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I had actually mentioned the battery issue and my Wi-Fi lockup issue upon release of 2.5. It could be kernel related, but it's not trolling, as you call it. When i report issues, they're ussually tested properly before i report them. I wasn't getting horrible battery life, but there was a slight difference (usually the kind of difference I get when I overclock, which only makes since with your changes). I started testing 2.5 with the bcblend kernel, but the superuser update came out, which I accepted (the one with the known bugs), and I was at a job site needing my wireless tether, so I just said screw it and went back to 2.3 since it's super stable and gets epic battery life. And i know 2.5 wasnt the cause of the superuser issue, in case you think thats what I'm implying, it was an update from the market that would've affected any rom. I'll probably flash back to 2.5 and test the bcblend kernel properly and see if that helps, when I get a break from work. I might put clock speeds back to stock too, to get an accurate comparison between the 2 versions, so I'm not sucking in as much voltage with my phone awake.

I know you don't know me, so you probably take any results I give you from testing with a grain of salt, just like you have to do with most users on xda, and if you want to do that, more power to you. But not all of us are ignorant on flashing techniques, overclocking, undervolting, networking and modding. I've joined xda to help developers make what is already the best even better through genuine testing. I myself am not a developer, but I've been working on it. I am however a professional network analyst and technician, among other things required at my job sites (computer repair, electrical, ect.) so troubleshooting is kinda my thing. But whatever...

Sorry to make such a long post on your thread about me... I just don't get it. A Dev makes a rom, and there's this rule about respect to Dev about not asking for updates, and realizing that they have life's outside of development, and that they do this for the community, and we should be grateful that they do, especially for free. I agree with all this, I too have a life outside of offering to test roms, fix issues, and report how I did it. I just get annoyed when I report legit issues that I notice, that do affect my life outside of xda, and response the Dev gives me is "you're an idiot, and you don't know what you're doing". Nobody actually says it that bluntly, but I know that's what's implied.

I'm sorry, I'll stop my rant now. This is your thread, and you've given us some awesome roms, which I greatly appreciate and thank you for. I'll stop reporting bugs to you if my reports don't count, because then I'm just wasting my time, too. But once again, thank you for what you've put on the table. I've been enjoying the feast. :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] sricke66:
Scott, I'm trying this rom out. I haven't had a new device for a few years, so I am out of the loop. I have been running a touch with myn's donut.

I remember when you started developing on the mogul with dcd's roms. You have sure done alot since then. Nice work! Is dcd around anymore?

One question, would you ever consider putting the "roam only" option in your roms?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
I think you are reading to far into the printed word and putting your own emotional spin on it. I too am a professional such as yourself and have been troubleshooting for years (decades would be more accurate) for the government, for private organizations, the military, etc.

I never called you a troll. That was an inside joke from another thread. Maybe bad taste to post it in this thread and not fully explain the joke, yes, I am guilty of that. But if you read it as me calling you a troll then that is/was not the intent and I apologize.

I re-read what I stated to you the first time and I find it accurate. Like I said before, I made a mistake using timat and not testing it as thoroughly as I should have. Switching to bcblend will resolve all of the issues noted which is why have been urging people to update the kernel.

Also, re-read your post. You didn't fully quantify the entire reason as to why you switched back, only making one believe that 2.5 was nearly unusable with the bugs you saw and that 2.3 was a better option. Had you stated that you did not have time to troubleshoot and would so later it would have given better clarity on the situation. So yes, maybe I assumed you were a newb but I had no proof you were not a newb by simply reading that post. Post count alone doesn't quantify anyone's capabilities. Do you know how many times people come into a thread and say... well... what you said... and never even bother to try to figure out the issue? Let alone understand the issue is more than likely some issue form not installing properly or following directions?

But like you said, I don't know you from Tom, **** or Hank. I don't know if your a newb or a qualified tech. So when you leave short posts stating odd issues and take no time to be able to troubleshoot with me what would you think?

So in-conclusion... if my statements are interrupted as insulting I do apologize. But I based my comments on what you said and what I know to be true. They conflicted (as you can see). Eitherway, dont take it personal because it was not meant to be a personal attack on you.

Thanks,

-Scott

EDIT: And thank you for appreciating the time I put into the ROM series. I am glad you don't take that for granted. And my apology is sincere. And by all means, continue to contribute to the thread and bug reports.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yeah, that was WAAAY back in the day! I have heard from DCD since the mogul days. Was never in touch with him anyways so... I dont know!

Roam only option? I need more details on that.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Its all good man! Were cool. And hold off on flashing 2.5. I get out of work in 2 hours... Thats all Im sayin.. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] sricke66:
Under Wireless & Networks, Mobile Networks (Set options for roaming networks), Roaming, We have Automatic or Sprint Only. In Myn's there is an option for Sprint, Automatic, or Roam Only.

There was a thread somewhere for this and someone asked myn to put it in his rom,and he did, so I am assuming other roms might have this.

In my house I get Sprint everywhere, but my bedroom. There I get better reception roaming on Verizon. But my phone trys to go back n forth, so it is nice to be able to select roam only. It will save battery too. Thanks Scott!
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I use an app called "roam control" to do that. It's very useful in poor sprint coverage areas. Like you said, it saves on battery too by staying on a 4 bar roaming signal, rather than connecting to 0-1 bar of sprint, getting dropped, searching for roaming or local again, rinse and repeat.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
Where did you get a facial recognition lockscreen? I can't find one.
[HTC EVO 3D] iModMM:
Hey scrosler! Love the ROM! Just wondering what do you have planned for it? What mods/goodies will you be incorporating in your ROM? Also when can we see another update? So far no bugs, runs great! Thank You!
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
Hmmm...mine is there. Maybe a bad download?? Idk ive seen strange things happen before, glad u found the problem tho

Sent from my Evo3D
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Gots to haz this. Thanks! I'm using another Rom on here that is very vanilla like, but it still has a lot of Sense crap still in it. You sir are my hero. This is exactly the kind of Rom I've been waiting for. Once again thanks and I will be sticking with this until full AOSP Roms start to roll out.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
https://market.android.com/details?id=visidon.AppLock

Sent from my Evo³d
[HTC EVO 3D] benjimatt:
once you get a couple of those issues fixed i will be flashing this rom asap.

From what ive noticed with past phones its always nice to just go ahead and keep the sense framework and kernal but completely remove sense. its like the phone just works right when its like this and the are never those "random" problems.

AOSP is good and all but I always see more problems with it. just my honest opinion
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Its just you. What mod/app did you add? Also, are you using CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY? I have heard this identical issue in many other forums and it ended up being ClockWork MOD recovery.

Unless he tor it apart and removed it, it should be there. I know there are mods out there that will kill settings. Also, Clockwork mod recovery has casused this issue a few times on other ROMS.

IM just here trying to put out some fodder for the masses. Im not here to flame anyone, treat people with disrespect, etc. I just wanna chat with people who enjoy the same "hobby/addiction" I have. Everyone makes mistakes. Keep in mind I am prolly a littel bit older than most other devs on this forum and I have nothing to prove to anyone. Im very secure in who I am and what I do.

Now... had you said something really stupid... lol
[HTC EVO 3D] ourprisonplanet:
Ok... I'm giving up until later on today... The settings.apk was in the folder... For the heck of it I removed it and replaced it with a settings.apk from the stock rom... Rebooted... Still nothing... I'm gonna try a different recovery later on to see if that fixes it, thank you OP for the suggestion that I could be CWM...
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Its in the stock ROM. Its your recovery effin it up.

Just want to get the bugs worked out for now then maybe some flashable themes. Wann keep it clean as possible.

Not a bad download, bad recovery.

Yep, I understand. Sense is so freaking intertwined with the OS... Such a pain in the ass.

It will. Trust me. I have gon through this a couple times with other ROMS on other forums. It always goes back to the recovery. Each ROM had the settings disappear.
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
I too am getting the slow download speeds. idk why either. Oh well...good things come to those who wait.

I do have a question though. I have seen that someone is running it with the sbc kernel so that answers my question about this being compatible with Netarchy's kernel, but, is it compatible with RCMIX EVO 3D Kernel?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
And what download speed are you getting?

I havent had a chance to play with ANY kernels yet. So I cant speak on that. Anyone who has can certainly chime in.
[HTC EVO 3D] ourprisonplanet:
Thank you very much for the recommendation Scrosler... That absolutely was the issue... I replaced CWM with TWRP... Reflashed... Rinsed and repeated... Voila... Ty again... ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yeah, I have seen it too many times prior to this. I scratched my head on it FOR HOURS before. Then came to conclusion it was recovery related.
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Actually t3project you are close but not quite correct(not trying to be a **** dude, just getting the dev to have the right info if he decides to implement it). In stock Gingerbread and most other AOSP Roms there are times when the wifi is grey and times when it is green. Grey means you are connected to the internet, but not the Google servers, so your browser and other internet apps will connect, but any Google apps like gmail, Market, Google+...you get the picture. When the icon turns green(or whatever the dev mods it to be) it means it is connected to the Google servers and Google apps can now connect.
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
I'm getting about 30Kb/s...no big deal though. It may just be because I am far away from the server. I live in the same town as Cheezy Nuts and he was getting it slow too, so probably just a distance thing. Thanks and you seriously have just curbed all us AOSP lovers itch until we get pure AOSP.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Ahhh, I see. Yeah, Cheezey nutz had the issue yesterday so... Yeah. When I tried it I was getting 300K+ No other complains so I dont know what to do....

Some post a mirror! Or better yet donate so I can buy better web hosting, lol. I am on Go daddy economy plan... They SUCK but they make it so easy to do.
[HTC EVO 3D] dkotoric:
Is anyone have problems with mms, i cant reaceive pic mail
[HTC EVO 3D] tomp517:
Can I place the rom in my roms folder on my sd card and still flash it or it has to be by itself?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Just tested, something screwy going on... Will add to known issue post.

You can place it anywhere.
[HTC EVO 3D] Puinsai:
The rom is nice and fast, I love it. Unfortunately, I use my phone for work. Not being able to use my phone to retrieve my email through exchange is a deal breaker. Once these minor issues are fixed will be right back here flashing the latest rom. Good job sir.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Anyone got a link?
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vuvuzela.roamcontrol&hl=en

That's the app I use. It's $4, but it's worth it when I need it...
[HTC EVO 3D] mwalt2:
Easiest and free to modify Phone.apk :).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1265763
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Even better! Thanks Bro. Long time no talk! Doing anything new with kernels?
[HTC EVO 3D] overclockxp:
So you let us be your guniea pigs!!!

I see how you roll!

But seriously, 2.3 was WAY better on the battery than 2.5. And where was 2.4?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
No, you were not guinea pigs because I let CleanROM DE have it 12 hours before. So they were technically the guinea pigs. But seriously if you read through that thread... Everyone that was using bcblend said timat was better. So... It went on for days how much better timat was and days... So I said... The vocal majority cannot be wrong! So I went with it... Yeah, they were wrong. That will be the very last time I ever take someones recombination over a proven method. lol

But on the same note... As soon as I went back to bcblend, the other half of the thread *****ed about it. So... IM like Really? Too effin bad... bcblend is how I am going to roll.

Also, freq may cause some drain and i know the kernel does. When I drop 2.6 I am going down to 1.4GHZ instead of 1.62 and I am including CPU Tuner. I feel this thread is mature enough to handle the app, lol!

As far as Version... I am trying to get SenslessROM shored up with CleanROM... They are brother and sister but I let the version numbers fall out of sync. I need them in syc for my own personal change log in my head so I know what ROM is using what base. May not make sense to many but it does to me, lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Version 2.6 - 10/14/2011

Kernel: bcblend v3 @ default clock speed

Added: System Tuner - Useful tool for overclocking and tweaking

Updated: Camera with HDR, Pano, Sound Toggle on and off

Updated: Host file

Updated: ROM Updater

Updated: Market 3.2.0

Please hit the Thanks button if you enjoy this ROM. If you really like it hit the Donate button :D
[HTC EVO 3D] MojoSwag:
Does the new version include the lockscreen fix or will we have to download and flash it separately?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
It will always be a separate download. Its too much sense for a senseless sense based ROM? Does that make sense? :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] MojoSwag:
Riiight. Lol

So no hope of keeping the asop lock screen?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
You can keep it. You just have to unlock to answer. I have not had time to look into any further. Next weekend I have off so I can start digging around then but until then those are the only two options I have for you.

However... There are a couple threads in the Themes / Apps forums that people have created for this ROM that list workarounds / add ons for the lock screen issue. I have not tried or test them however.
[HTC EVO 3D] MojoSwag:
I flashed the lockscreen fix with 2.6 and when the phone rebooted it didn't come up with a lock screen at all. It showed my wallpaper and the status bar but I couldn't interact with it. I think it conflicts with the SL icons since I flashed that zip right after
[HTC EVO 3D] Xpertss:
Anyone got a screen shot of battery usage thru-out the battery life?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Hmmm, I flashed weather lockscreen and it was fine for me. Which SL Icons did you flash? I dont have them in ROM Updater for Senseless.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
No but I am sure someone would be willing to post them. With average usage you should get 18 to 24+ hours. This ROM is the best ROM I have made for battery. My other ROMS range from 12hrs with heavy usage to 24 hours with light usage.
[HTC EVO 3D] Xpertss:
WOW.. That's amazing! I'm flashing it as I type.

Oh by the way.. that is with a Stock battery. correct?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yep. Remember your usage pattern may be different so I cannot tell you for fact what you will get.
[HTC EVO 3D] Xpertss:
And that is why I was requesting the battery usage chart snap shot.

Anyhow I'm welling to give the rom a try and provide you with feedback.

So for cleanest Senseless Rom I've try and 1st one that I didn't feel like re-flashing back to Sense in 1st 10min. Obviously you did an Excellent job cleaning this rom. Also 500+MB free on boot, that's pretty impressive.

Tomorrow I will be able to test out the battery and hopefully I can get more than 9hrs life out of it..

Thanks again.

J
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
Is there any way to change the shortcuts on that weather lockscreen?

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] sricke66:
Scott, that was the thread. Glad someone found it. Do you think this might make it into your roms? It would be nice.
[HTC EVO 3D] SpunkyXL:
Whats the lockscreen fix? Link?

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yes, I would be very interested in knowing specifics. Most people jsut say "Best battery life ever" but never really say how many hours! Some people hve posted screenies of 48+ hours on CleanROM so I am sure you will do good.

As far as memory, ya, you gotta love that, lol

No. I will make an integrated fix for it... one day. BUt this is supposed to be Senseless and the weather lockscreen is just a work around. Once i figure out the exact code to remove the slide to unlock to answer" that thing will go bye bye.

Wait, what... What are we talking about again?

The native AOSP lock screen used forces you to unlock it to see who is calling because the Dialer is still Sense. To work around this you can install the Weather lock screen from ROM Updater and it will act like the normal Sense lock screen and you can answer calls like that. Otherwise you can use the AOSP lock screen as it is for now.
[HTC EVO 3D] SpunkyXL:
Superuser keeps force closing upon every restart

"The application Superuser (process com.noshufou.android.su) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again"
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Sounds like you took the automatic update that has a known issue of force closing. I would try to uninstall the bad update asap!
[HTC EVO 3D] SpunkyXL:
Thanks. worked!

One more ques..how do I enable Beats Audio? I have to use the default music app?
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yep! Its only active on the HTC Music. A lot of people dont know this but HTC now owns the majority share of Beats by Dr Dre. Pretty cool, huh?
[HTC EVO 3D] mahalocat:
Anyone have a flashable superuser.apk.

I am force closing too....
[HTC EVO 3D] kellybrf:
random issue, but i flashed this today after running supra for the past few months and everything is working great, except google+ wont install. it tells me there isnt enough space on the device (not true), but every other app installs just fine. im not sure this is a rom issue, but it was working just fine before.

so far im liking the rom itself a lot, and i like the asop feel with the core sense apps still in place. the unlock to answer thing isnt always bad because it helps with pocket answers, or answering while taking it out of your pocket. thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
No, its a market issue. Try clearing market data and then boot to recovery and clear cache and dalvik and you should be fine.

Very true, I guess I am going to list that as FEATURE now! lol
[HTC EVO 3D] DataDork:
Agreed. at first I was like EFF that...to unlock and answer a call. but soon after i realized it great for privacy and accidental answers.

So whats the difference between the 2 kernels .. why BCB.. just curious.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Man... IM gonna make this short.... And hopefully not turn this in to a huge debate (link the DE thread)...

First some history...

I went from stock kernel to timat on THIS ROM. My CleanROM DE had bcbblend from ver 1.0. V1.1 I went to timat ROM and that was also the night I put out Senseless 2.5. Well, I got tons of crap for using timat ROM because it performed lower in a lot of area's. I didn't test it as much and took some peoples word that it was the superior kernel.

Well, its not. So I switched CR DE 1.2 back to bcblend and every one was happy. Some people got agitated but that;s there problem because I truly feel that bcblend is far superior to all.

So when I had a few complaints about 2.5 not being what it "should" be... People noted some strange and random issues like a reboot in the middle of the night and random lock ups from no where. This was also noted on CR DE. So I took this one back to bcblend and feel its the right choice. Good battery, superior performance. Not much more you can ask for.

I have never had any complains on bcblend, only with timat.

bcblend FTW!
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Oh yeah, I also clocked it back down from 1.6 to 1.2 because I dont feel this ROM needs to be at 1.6. But I did include System Tuner so you can tweak it to your liking!
[HTC EVO 3D] DataDork:
lol... OK... well i just downloaded. Time to update. Thanks for the info.
[HTC EVO 3D] kellybrf:
didnt think to clear davilk, that worked thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yep. That fixes it every time :D
[HTC EVO 3D] sricke66:
Scott, sorry I was asking you about looking into this thread about modifying the phone.apk, to add the roam only option to your roms.

It is very handy for people that have poor Sprint coverage at times. Gives reception, plus saves the battery by keeping the phone from bouncing back and forth on networks.
[HTC EVO 3D] FractalSphere:
Best. Post. Ever! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Glad you got the humor in that one! :eek: lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
I gotcha man... I will try to look at it in the coming week. I don't have a day from work until Wednesday so I will try to do the mod then.

Right now I am trying to get Ubuntu installed on a new machine.. Not going well :( Getting frustrated but once I either get it to go or give up I will take a look.
[HTC EVO 3D] Luthien1:
Hey Scott you I flashed the new release......you were right about everything........thank you
[HTC EVO 3D] SpunkyXL:
Noticed the CRT animation effect is laggy at times.

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Cool, I think? What was I right about? lol

Ok

-Scott
[HTC EVO 3D] Luthien1:
The kernel tiamet being shady, someone said in the tiamet kernel thread thhat over time it can break things permanently, I th lolink....something about CPU governors being shut off
[HTC EVO 3D] uNiXpSyChO:
Not correct. You should read that again.

cayniarb, who makes the kernel, mentioned that people hellbent on running both cores at full blast overclocked run the risk of frying their device. He is absolutely correct. There are reasons why HTC, Qualcomm, etc set the OS to shut off the 2nd core when idle. Nothing to do with his kernel specifically.
[HTC EVO 3D] badbizinc:
Does 2.3 & 2.6 have the same kernel. Because I have S-on.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Yeah its called marketing. lol Think AMD, lol

No, 2.6 has bcblend. BEST. KERNEL. EVER!
[HTC EVO 3D] bigmikehd2:
I just wish there was a lockscreen fix that used the wallpaper lockscreen instead of the weather lockscreen. Is that possible? I've tried aftermarket lockscreens and they just don't work right. I really like senseless rom, it's so fast but I need the sense lockscreen lol so i guess I'll stick with cleanrom for now.
[HTC EVO 3D] uNiXpSyChO:
hehe. :D

I get the same complaining about my webOS TouchPad kernels. I find this 8x60 CPU pretty darn fast even at 1 core. I did notice a few things that weren't right in the Tiamat sources, I might send him a buzz.

Nice job on the ROM BTW. I like a ROM that "just works" without all the k1dd13 stuff. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ktrotter11:
You could take the CleanRom zip and go in and delete the sense elements you can live w/o like the rosie and stuff... just leave all the files dependent on the lockscreen...

ie.. fusion.apk...htc lockscreen...idlescreens.... i believe