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[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ratchetrizzo:
The 4g slide's keyboard definitely needs some getting used to.

I LOVED the 3g slides keyboard and thought it would be pretty much the same.

The buttons are MUCH more sensitive and are taking time to get used to.

I liked the g2's buttons (as far as feel) better, and I liked the original slides the best. I've been reading that people have been keyboards that have different feels so you mileage may vary. I noticed pressure differences in the two 4g slides I bought (mine is ultra sensitive).

Once we have root, one of the FIRST things I'm doing is editing the keymappings and making the retarded www.com key a tab button. WTF are people that lazy that it warrants a dedicated key? I understand TAB with linux since it autocompletes and I use a shell and ssh a lot. Oh well.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cberbes:
Yup, that's it. Good call. I just looked at both of my keyboards and I think you nailed it on the head. Which of course brings up another issue with the physical keyboard....more of a software issue than anything. I can NOT get the physical keyboard set to auto-punctuate and auto-cap. With my G2 running CM7.1.0, I have auto punctuate and auto cap, so I don't have to worry about apostrophes, capitalizing "I", and what not, and double space ends the sentence.

I miss those features.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] epileptic:
I'm getting used to the keyboards lack of tactile feedback but the lack of a dedicated number row is my biggest annoyance. If u could hold the buttons down and get the alt function that would help a lot. Hopefully a new rom can give us that option. I do miss my touch pro 2 kb...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] napilopez:
I'm on the fence about what I think. On one hand, I actually prefer having such wide spacing between keys, a shallow travel, and soft response. I'm the type of person who loves the keyboards on palm phones since the centro; I like that soft touch, and I like that I can input with my nails if i need to. But the problem for me is that response among keys is uneven, on my model at least, with the keys towards the outwards edges being perfect, whereas a few keys towards the center, like the "t" and "g", barely provide me with any feedback. So little that I was actually looking around to whether I can enable virtual keyboard sounds or vibration feedback when using the hardware keyboard. I wonder whether its just a quality control issue because I haven't seen others have problems with specific buttons like that, they might just not like the keyboard at all but I haven't read about an uneven response.

Which is a shame because otherwise the phone is absolutely spectacular, and imo the best overall android offering out there. I have no issues whatsoever with using a virtual keyboard, but given the possibility, I'd rather use a physical one to save real estate and for the sake of my fingers.

However, I've only had the phone for 2 days, and I have clearly noticed that the keys are "breaking in". It was much worse the first day, but now response has improved substantially. I can tell because some of the outer keys had little response as well before but now click more satisfactorily after I spent a good amount of time pressing keys randomly in the notes app to wear the keys in.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] michaelmab88:
I like this keyboard a lot. The only thing that absolutely sucks about it is that when using it your hands cover the bluetooth radio. For me since I am constantly listening to music on my phone via my bluetooth headphones... I am constantly annoyed by skipping music during texting or browsing. So I generally use the touch screen keyboard while listening to music via bluetooth.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] napilopez:
On another note, does anybody know if their is a version of the stock gingerbread keyboard available with hardware spelling suggestions? The hardware keyboard is a lot more usable for me when used with suggestions. Better Keyboard has it and works well, but its prediction simply isn't as good as either gingerbread's or HTCs, mainly because it doesn't correct a lot of words where you type in an extra letter. And HTCs keyboard, though good as well, simply annoys me because it alwaayyysssss autocorrects "lol" to "LOL", which though minor, I find incredibly irksome when texting. No one uses caps for lol unless they are actually find something hilarious. Everybody knows that lol doesnt actually mean you're laughing out loud most of the time, lol. See? I didn't laugh.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] _atlien_:
SwiftKey X predictions plus this keyboard equals the best ever. And this is coming from someone who has used smartphones for years and never a physical keyboard before last week.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mat_oli:
Swiftkey X predictions definitely seems pretty good so far with the hardware keyboard...but I've noticed that the prediction bar at the bottom doesn't always pop up for me..I've installed keyboard manager such that in portrait mode, it goes to Swype, and then in landscape mode or hardware keyboard, it'll default to Swiftkey X.

The predictions seem to popup very inconsistently, anybody else notice this?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cal3thousand:
are you new to technology?

HTC dropped the ball? Sounds like someone dropped the box your phone came in...

harder than you were.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ekoee:
the only reason i got this phone was because i needed a replacement for my cliq (pos). i miss being able to shift+alt extra symbols, but i'll live with it.

honestly though i've been using swype way more often than not, and the only time i use the keyboard is when i'm typing in account info and such.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] RazoE:
Got this phone the day they released it in retail stores, and the only reason I got this phone was for the physical keyboard, but it sucks.

The buttons arent confident inspiring, they're too close together. The keyboard doesn't light up half the time, and it won't auto capitalize or insert apostrophes the way my old phones did.

The swype keyboard more than makes up for it, except for the fact that the very bottom row is so close together, I find myself hitting space instead of a period, or switching to spanish.

I can live with it, but honestly this isn't what I expected
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] CB620:
Well im looking for a physical keyboard and have a Sensation I'm willing to trade for a slide if someone wants to do the exchange. Feel free to contact me.

Here is my thread I have in the marketplace:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1155713
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] giangdude:
I agree with you on most points. I not a fan of how the buttons feel when I press them. I guess a more definitive click would make me like it more. And the keyboard backlit not turning on drives me crazy!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yellowjacket1981:
I hear the keyboard backlight only is supposed to come on when it senses dark....??? Idk, I haven't really noticed

Edit: I just tried it. The backlight came right on when I was in my dark closet, and went right off when I walked out into my brightly lit room...so it is light sensitive.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
Yeah, all you really have to do is just put your finger/thumb across the top of the front of the phone and it should light right up.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] giangdude:
Too bad there isn't a setting for that, or at least one that I could find. But I guess the light sensor trick will have to do
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] RazoE:
Didn't know that. Pretty cool, but I like lit keyboards at all times..
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] xocean:
i don't like it . if the keys move to left a little ,will be fine.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] iKhaos:
The keyboard isn't that bad. The few things I dislike are the ".com/www" button that I constantly hit when trying to press 'A' and the back button so close to the period.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jonnycat26:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but +1 on that.

I'm coming from a 3G Slide, and I spent a few hours playing with a 4G slide, and the keyboards couldn't be more different. The keys on the 4G are just mush... there's not nearly as much feedback as there was on the 3G. They're also much more flush with the back of the keyboard, not nearly as raised as they were on the 3G.

I was so set on getting this phone, but the keyboard could be a dealbreaker. Anyone recommend any similar alternatives?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] RazoE:
Swype is good enough to replace the physical keyboard (which I admit, I only use for game emulators; main reason I got the phone), but I took came from a 3G slide and you won't be disappointed with the phone. The screen is big enough for swype to be useful, unlike my friend's Huawei 835, swype on that thing is a joke with such a small screen.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jonnycat26:
Maybe Swype is good enough for you, but I've never really liked it. I probably haven't given it enough of a chance, but I am so much faster on a physical keyboard than I am with Swype.

If you came from a 3G slide, what's your impression of how the keyboards compare? Am I insane for thinking the 4G is largely mushy compared to the 3G?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] RazoE:
Yeah, it's definitely inferior to the 3g slide. If you really want a confident inspiring keyboard, grab a sidekick 4g, I got one for my daughter and it's by far the nicest keyboard I have used on a phone. Combined with ADW launcher, it's a very capable phone. It also has a 1ghz procedure, so it's no slouch.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] N1LOY:
Why don't you just go to the store and get hands on these new sets? If you have a really fat fingers then you shouldn't really use smartphones keyboard, so it really depends on you and how you feel it in your hand. Someone likes it heavy, someone light, someone more space, someone less space... so it differs.

By far this is the best keyboard for android phones.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
This is my first phone with a nice version of Swype (my TouchPro2 had it but it was bootleg) and I am soooooo glad that I have a physical keyboard. Swype just makes wayyyyy too many mistakes and it ten times more annoying than mispelling via the hard keyboard. I miss the dedicated number row on the keyboard, but I figure it's rare to get one with a dedicated number row anymore. I don't mind the shallow press of the keys but I'd probably prefer something a little more like the G2's keyboard.

I was always against virtual keyboards and this phone has only strengthened my believe. People that think they are riding high with just a virtual keyboard are just kidding themselves.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Climbguy:
i came from a BlackBerry Bold 9700, so I knew I wouldn't like the keyboard on the MY4GS as much.

After having the MY4GS for about a month now, I have started to get use to it. Swipe and the virtual keyboard is OK for typing a few words here or there. However, if you want to type out an email I find the physical keyboard to be a must.

I am typing on it a lot faster today, I would agree with others that it would be nice if everything was shifted to the left just a little.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] SmartassArt:
I think the keyboard is fine but its desperately missing the dedicated numbers row. I am hoping GO Keyboard will take my suggestion I sent them into consideration so that for phones without dedicated numbers they can use that top suggestion bar (that appears anyway in landscape when the keyboard is open) as a customizable option and set the numbers row there along with Parenthesis and quotes etc.

Whatcha think?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Droidmoder:
I would not own a cellphone without a hardware keyboard. My first phone was a samsung slide out, next was lg envy, g1 now this phone.

it fits my hand great, only complaint is alt for numbers.

I can't stand pure touch phones. I often get annoyed by my big fingers hitting other keys on a touch screen.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Jaytex24:
I actually like the "myslide 3g" keyboard in comparison to this one. The keys are too soft imo. I have a feeling though that hard keys will eventually be replaced by touch screen keys on a slide out keyboard. I could handle squeezing my thumbs in tight places to type on a single screen touch keypad, what I couldn't tolerate was the sacrificing most of the visual screen to allow for a keyboard. Mytouch 3g was my first android phone and it was cool because it was different at the time (droid razr2 before that) but after the 3g slide ill only be buying phone that allow the user to type and still have the full screen visible to see exactly what the heck you were filling out to begin with.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] DcnWlf:
Ive owned the tilt2 for a long time and after upgrading to mytouch 4g slide I do not like the keyboard the buttons are a good size its jus that the touch of it when you press it you or atleast me cant tell I hit it, also the keyboard repeat (when holding a button down) is way to fast. The keyboard to me would be "usable" but not great.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] blackknightavalon:
I take it none of you have used the Vision's keyboard. My first reaction to both that and the Cliq's keyboard was "where are the dedicated number keys?" The MT4GS is effectively a design upgrade from the G2 and I hope HTC comes out with phones that have hardware keyboards in the future.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jonnycat26:
The MyTouch 3G Slide had a tons better keyboard. I love every aspect of the 4G Slide, but the keyboard is far inferior to the 3G Slide.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] daviddallas:
anyway to have keyboard backlight on always when opened

I know the backlight comes on when dark or when you cover the front camera, anybody know on a rooted phone how to set it to have it on always when keyboard is opened?

Thanks, David
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] leoilios:
Tasker

sent from rubix ics 5.2 mt4gs
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
I recently picked up a Droid 4 for work and wow. It feels so disappointing with the MT4GS keyboard!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Granted, the keyboard isn't the best, but there's tons of space between the keys so it doesn't really matter. And you can get used to almost ANY phone quirks and quibbles with time.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I do agree that the 3G Slide had the best Keyboard of the 3 (Vision,3GS and 4GS) My biggest complaint of the 4GS keyboard is the Back button I'd too close to the space button and messes me up when I get to typing fast. The 3GS keyboard one I got use to the alt #s it was very quick to type on.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
+1

Although, if you're going from the 3GS to the 4GS, it shouldn't be that much of a change for you. The 4GS keyboard is very similar to its predecessor, albeit a little flatter

I am going from the 3GS>G2>4GS, so the transition won't be as graceful. Still a great phone though.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] godbilla:
I really like the keyboard. It took a little getting used to because the keys aren't very raised up, but once you do typing is sooo awesome on it. I still Swype a lot though, too.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tpphilipp:
SwiftKey X vs. GO Keyboard vs. Stock App Keyboard

First I got used to the GO Keyboard but than I experienced some problems with it using the hardware keyboard: the SYM did not work anymore, i just got a square sign when i pressed that button. And long pressing a button does not open the context menu, e. g. to print German Umlauts.

But the stock app keyboard and the installed Swype App keyboard are by far not as good as the GO keyboard.

After a while I wanted to have German Umlauts (ä, ö, ü) and wrote a new doubleshot-keypad.kcm.bin, following the hints from Paistor (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285244, big thanks for that!). I modified the bin-file quite a lot (e. g. putting ä and Ä to Alt+A and Alt+Shift+A by moving the ! to Alt+Shift+S, or putting bracelets to Alt+Shift+J and Alt+Shift+K), so at least I got a lot of the symbols onto different keys of my hardware keyboard (Alt+Shift).

Now I have installed SwiftKey X and everything works perfect. Not only that the software keyboard rocks but with SwiftKey X you can long press any key on the hardware keyboard and a context menu with the Umlauts pops up (if you have installed another language package there will be the corresponding Umlauts), just like with the stock app. And the SYM button works too with SwiftKey X.

Last thing I did was changing Y and Z by using the method from Paistor to get a QWERTZ-hardware-keyboard.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Anglleos:
Personally, I have only one complaint with the keyboard. I wish there was just a bit more space between the top row of buttons and the screen. My fingers tend to have to squeeze in the hit the buttons.

Other than that though, I absolutely love the keyboard.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] gtmaster303:
Guys, I hate to bring this thread back from the grave but I noticed that my keys are quite flat when I compared them to my friend's Doubleshot.

Mine is khaki and hers is black (I don't know if that will make a difference)

Her phone keys give a lot more feedback than mine. I noticed the difference instantly.

I wanted to know if HTC will actually do anything about this if I send it in to them for repair.

I already have my phone setup, and it would be a pain to unroot, S-ON, etc...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] the_mentor:
Thanks for the info i'll try it on my phone :D
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
Only thing I dont lie about the keyboard is that there is no physical feedback from pressing a key. Sometimes I dont even know if I pressed it or not without looking at the screen. That sounds like a fairly minor con . It's actually a pretty pronounced problem. Othere than that Issue I like it . Keys could be a bit bigger too . But thats not really a problem
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
If you can't feel that you've pressed a key, that's a problem with yiur hardware. I don't have that issue...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
You know what? you're right.... I just pressed every key on the keyboard and its only tyui that dont have a physical report. Any idea as to a potential problem? they keys work they just dont have that feedback . Dirt ? bad keyboard?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
It's probably a receeded keyboard panel. Take it to T-Mo.
[Desire HD General] jznomoney:
Can anyone who has a Telus Model Desire HD post a logcat during boot and a dmesg after boot for me? I am working on a project and need some info.
[Desire HD General] jznomoney:
No telus desire hd users?
[Desire HD General] JSLEnterprises:
The Telus Desire HD is an Inspire 4G but with an HTC logo on the back rather than AT&T. Thats the only difference in the two hardware wise, they're both A9192's. Software wise, its just a different cid (661 builds are for canadian market, thats why the sensation's .661 build is for Bell Mobility, the Evo 3D's build for Rogers is also .661, and why Telus' DHD build also has .661 in its build numbers)(at&t's CID is 502)

You can ask Inspire 4G users for their logcat's too, they'll be the same thing. Both have the same Hboot version in 2.43.661 (telus build) and the 2.47 (cingular build)

... just sayin.
[Desire HD General] jznomoney:
Only reason I ask is because the Telus Desire HD ruu do not have dualmic enabled but the AT&T Inspire 4g does have dualmic enabled. Both the kernel config and dmesg when booting the telus ruu on an inspire show that dualmic is disabled. So if you someone does have one I would like to read the logs from it to see if the telus really doesn't have a dualmic.
[Desire HD General] JSLEnterprises:
It just doesnt have dual mic enabled, because telus doesnt feel that its neccessary (another reason why I dont use the stock rom on my A9192) (the dev's that work for telus arnt the brightest in the bunch either)
[Desire HD General] jznomoney:
do me a favor if you have a telus desire hd, right after a boot do this

adb shell dmesg | grep revision

What revision does it return

<6>[ 0.245697] spade_init: revision = 128 this is the desire hd without a dualmic

if it = 129 than it does have a dualmic.
[Desire HD General] JSLEnterprises:
mine's got 129. (not running stock software, everything's been changed)

what value did your A9192 have
[Desire HD General] jznomoney:
I have an Inspire 4g.
[Desire HD General] JSLEnterprises:
... again, its the same device hardware wise (down to the smaltest spec), just different logo on the metal backing.
[Desire HD General] jznomoney:
If you have time could you test this rom for me

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16354726#post16354726
[Desire HD General] anjeti:
HTC Desire HD, Telus, updated OTA to Gingerbread

here dmesg (part):

<6>[ 0.000000] spade_map_io

<4>[ 0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 160782

<5>[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: board_spade.disable_uart2=0 board_spade.usb_h2w_sw=0 board_spade.disable_sdcard=0 diag.enabled=0 board_spade.debug_uart=0 smisize=0 userdata_sel=0 androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.baseband=26.10.04.03_M androidboot.cid=TELUS001 androidboot.batt_poweron=good_battery androidboot.carrier=TELUS androidboot.mid=PD9814000 androidboot.keycaps=qwerty androidboot.mode=normal androidboot.serialno=xxxxxxxxxxxxTandroidboot.bootloader=0.85.0024 zygote_oneshot=off kmemleak=off no_console_suspend=1 wire.search_count=5

<6>[ 0.000000] diag_set_enabled: 0

<6>[ 0.000000] smd_try_open(diag_set_enabled): 0

<6>[ 0.000000] board_bootloader_setup: 0.85.0024

<6>[ 0.000000] board_bootloader_setup: default ENG BUILD

<6>[ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)

<6>[ 0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)

<6>[ 0.000000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)

<6>[ 0.000000] Memory: 320MB 128MB 185MB = 633MB total

<5>[ 0.000000] Memory: 635784k/635784k available, 12408k reserved, 320512K highmem

<5>[ 0.000000] Virtual kernel memory layout:

<5>[ 0.000000] vector : 0xffff0000 - 0xffff1000 ( 4 kB)

<5>[ 0.000000] fixmap : 0xfff00000 - 0xfffe0000 ( 896 kB)

<5>[ 0.000000] DMA : 0xffa00000 - 0xffe00000 ( 4 MB)

<5>[ 0.000000] vmalloc : 0xd4800000 - 0xf8000000 ( 568 MB)

<5>[ 0.000000] lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xd4000000 ( 320 MB)

<5>[ 0.000000] pkmap : 0xbfe00000 - 0xc0000000 ( 2 MB)

<5>[ 0.000000] modules : 0xbf000000 - 0xbfe00000 ( 14 MB)

<5>[ 0.000000] .init : 0xc0008000 - 0xc0038000 ( 192 kB)

<5>[ 0.000000] .text : 0xc0038000 - 0xc052b000 (5068 kB)

<5>[ 0.000000] .data : 0xc052c000 - 0xc057e640 ( 330 kB)

<6>[ 0.000000] Hierarchical RCU implementation.

<6>[ 0.000000]	RCU-based detection of stalled CPUs is disabled.

<6>[ 0.000000]	Verbose stalled-CPUs detection is disabled.

<6>[ 0.000000] NR_IRQS:390

<6>[ 0.000000] Calibrating delay loop... 511.18 BogoMIPS (lpj=2555904)

<6>[ 0.240142] pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301

<4>[ 0.240386] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512

<6>[ 0.240753] Initializing cgroup subsys debug

<6>[ 0.240783] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct

<6>[ 0.240783] Initializing cgroup subsys freezer

<6>[ 0.240814] CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok

<6>[ 0.243713] NET: Registered protocol family 16

<6>[ 0.243835] NPA: Init done.

<6>[ 0.244018] msm_ssbi_init()

<6>[ 0.244964] pm8058_init: PMIC 8058

<6>[ 0.245941] spade_init: revision = 129

<6>[ 0.245941] spade_init: microp version =

<6>[ 0.245941] cur_cpu 0x7, id 0x4a

<6>[ 0.245971] socinfo_init: v4, id=74, ver=2.0, raw_id=1392, raw_ver=1392, hw_plat=0, hw_plat_ver=0