yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
The graphics would look sharper as smaller density. As for battery life I don't see how density could make a difference. You'll also find some apps wont fill the screen properly and prob also have issues with market.

Sent from my pukka fukka SCI MIUI
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
@muneeb.ansari : when you change the density via build.prop you have to reboot. after rebooting often the phone feels a bit smoother. the reason is the reboot and not the desity ;)

this, btw., is the reason for the success of so many placebo tweaks. after rebooting the just flashed tweak the phone feels smoother and they think it is due to the tweak :D

that's why i explicitly wanted to not judge too fast ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] muneeb.ansari:
I knew this might be the case thats why I called it placebo .. ;)

But .. still .. the sharper image feels nice on my DHD .. still no where near the Super AMOLED of a Nexus S or SGS II .. but its a step up. Think I'll keep it like this for now.

BTW, took the queue from Project X's BlackIce ROM ..

"- Nice looking! - default 200 lcd density, that means more space for you apps and widgets." ..
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
true, i also used 220 a while and played around with other values but i came back to default 240.
[Desire HD Android Development] floepie:
Interesting conversation back there about battery usage differences using 2G or 3G, while connected to WLAN. It seems 'a user' says there is absolutely no difference when using either GSM or WCDMA while connected to WLAN for data. Is that correct? This is always what I though too, since the data radios are essentially turned off while using a WLAN. So, in theory, there shouldn't be a difference in batt life.

However, what some bright lad from NL posted about a few pages back regarding how the voice side (non-data) of your phone interacts using GSM or WCDMA with the towers is different even if connected to WLAN. I had somewhat forgotten that battery usage for the voice side is also affected adversely when using WCDMA. So, in theory, even if you are home connected to WLAN, using 2G-only should require less load on the battery, shouldn't it?
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
correct.

you mean Selec1 ?

he didn't said that this effect is still present when connected to wlan. and i doubt that it is the case. i just looked back at his post. he seems to simply misunderstood the conversation and missed we are talking about being connected to wlan.

selec1, if i am wrong here say so. i hope i didn't scared you off ;)

i could make a test though. i have the possibility to count the number of cells my device sees within a certain number of hours. so i could count this while being connected to wlan and have 2g set and once having 3g set.

if someones is willing to repeat that we could get quite reliable results on this. ofcourse this must be repeated several times over different days to be sure it is not only a coincidence.
[Desire HD Android Development] muneeb.ansari:
I have tested this before and 2G came out better for battery.

Just to be clear, irrespective of whether you're connected to WiFi or not (as that is for data), for voice alone, 2G consumes less battery just because of the fact that it has better coverage.

I have noticed through OpenSignalMaps (available for free from Market), that my phone jumps around to different cells a lot more on 3G than on 2G since 3G has lesser coverage.

BTW, this is the reason why I requested for Toggle 2G to be included in this ROM in the first place. :)
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
wait. if you are connected to wlan, your phone cannot jump arround due to 2g because you are not connected to mobile data at all.

you can check that out using getprop in the terminal. i don't remember how the properties were called but you are not connected to mobile data if you are using wlan. and mobile data works independed of your phone connection.

btw. you will not switch the cell your phone is cnnected to if your data cell is witched. this i am 100% sure as i see my 2G/3g jumping around while i am still connected to the very same phone cell.

maybe there is also a regional difference how providers are doing some stuff.

lets keep it simple: being connected to wlan shuts off mobile data connection. so there is no jumping around due to 2g/3g.
[Desire HD Android Development] muneeb.ansari:
Yea .. it may be regional. Again, not about data or voice .. its about general phone signal strength. In Singapore, although we have island-wide 3G/H/WCDMA .. we still get better (generally full) signal strength on 2G/GSM ..

Anyway .. suppose it varies geography-to-geography and operator-to-operator ..
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
hmm, i used google to dig into that cell tower/2g/3g stuff. i didn't found bullet proff answeres but it could be that i am wrong.

even though mobile data is disconnected while being on wlan it could be that the 2g/3g setting influences which cell towers you may connect to.

at least it sounds possible from what i read. not sure if this is true though. i think i'll try to make some test the next days.
[Desire HD Android Development] Selec1:
Well, it was what I ment. 2g and 3g are not just data connection but also a voice/phone connection. The GSM protocol (2g) is just easier on the battery. So, when connected to WiFi you should use 2g because you don't need the data connection (because you're WiFi connected).

Hope I've made myself clear, my English is not good enough.

@a user: I'm not easily scared. And afterall this is a development discussion board, right? ;)

Also: I'm not completely sure but this is what I always experienced, learned, read. Please prove me wrong :)
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
this can't be true as i see jumping between 2g and 3g while moving around but my phone signal strength remains the same.

anyhow, this seems a lot more complicated than i first thought.
[Desire HD Android Development] Selec1:
You can have a 3g capable connection (wcma) but still have 2g data. The icon and data protocol changes between 3g and 2g but you still have the wcma connection. Forcing a 2g connection means you force the phone to use the gsm connection.
[Desire HD Android Development] karanx:
battery condition is very good.

After 12 hours of use (edit: over 2g)

42% voice calls

32% display

6% standby

results 68% battery life

I think a good figure :)
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
just tweaked SCI Miui in systune to what I had on BlackICE...Nice....Very Nice!! And smooth as silk....And I have to say that boot and down anim is the best I've ever seen in the world ever!! ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
Yes SCI is the pukka fukka of all roms (imo) anyways

Yes the boot anim is pretty cool aint it, it's nice to have a personnal touch.

Nice sig btw ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Leechoonhwee:
I think the icons really reflects the state of the data network that you are on currently. It is not possible to have a 3G connection and yet on GPRS as well....
[Desire HD Android Development] gillepy:
I don't know.... If I was being super pedantic :p. You tend not to have an even number of teeth on a gear. This ensures the same teeth don't mesh on each rotation. This helps with reducing wear (due to manufacturing defects on one tooth) and with the distribution with oil etc through the entire drive train. Also 6 teeth is quite a small number.

Saying all this though, I couldn't model the gears outside of a cad package and i definately couldn't do the animation or any of the photoshop you can (I cant even change the colour of Mr Garakls lockscreen!) so maybe i should pipe down! :confused:
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
Tell us what you changed and why

Sent from my SysTune tweaked SCI MIUI powered Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Selec1:
You are right. I was wrong and now i'm confused lol :p
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
Regarding the test tweak...

It's very hard to say if noticeable improvement as it was smooth before, or it being placebo effect...

BUT it does seem a tad smoother in general use.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
to sum it up, this are the possibilities:

1. while on wlan the 2g/3g mode does not trigger a cell switch as we are not connected on mobile data

2. while on wlan, even though we do not use mobile data, and are not connected, the phone tries to stay on a cell tower with good 3G singal if you have 3g (prefered) set. hence the 2g/3g mode is still influencing cell jumping even though no mobile data is used.

i think this are the two theories. suggestion for a reliable test or does somebody know where we could get information about this?
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
@djcsurf : that's also my impression. there are some reproducible situation where i regularly observed a small lag when switching home screen in adw ex which seems to be gone or at least smaller. it does not feel really smoother but to be a more stable smoothness.

don't know how to describe but i don't think it is only my imagination.

well, at least it does not make things worse so i will include it on next release

for the technically interested: i disabled new fair skeepers for the cfs kernel scheduler. so this has no effect on bfs kernels ;) by the information i got about it it should make cfs more bfs like.
[Desire HD Android Development] hawkwind:
One thing i have noticed with the tweak is just how fast folders open now, it is instantanious, i also think that apps are loading a lot quicker, tapatalk is also open in an instant and i really do not think that is a placebo effect either.
[Desire HD Android Development] Stilleh:
Which kernel are you using atm and are your settings in the systune thread uptodate? I ain't doing **** until you do... ****... :) My phone is a happy phone when tuned by you a user!
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
Haha indeed if I'd taken the time I could have made them in to proper cranks/gears....and I did use cad....I am a design engineer and I use solidworks ;) its the ****!! Also used it to make the animation :D.....
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
Undervolted a bit and underclocled back down to stock speed....for battery life :)
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
this!

actually this is something the tweak could have caused. it influences how tasks/processes that got put to sleep are waked up. as apps not are getting killed when closed but their process only gets put to sleep it could and obviously has influence about restarting them.

thank you very much for this observation.

@Stilleh

i just updated the post wiith my current settings. not changed much beside the current kernel and sched_latency_ns and sched_wakup_granularity_ns., both reduced a bit to 100000

edit: am using 8.2b6 cfs kernel. but feels the same as the 8.1cfs kernel i think. but not much time for real testing and comparing.

@jameslsmith:

1. i also use the (near) stock value as max freq and am undervolting a bit.

2. the gears are looking damn nice in the pic of your sig. sorry i still haven't seen the bootanimation. the theme i installed substituted it. i removed the boot animation though but haven't rebooted :D
[Desire HD Android Development] hawkwind:
All of the thanks belong to you mate :)

Miui really need you on their team :D

I still cant believe i have 70% battery left after 14 hours use, i have the 1600 Anker battery but that is still amazing for me.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
but this 70% battery is cyanogen mods work, not mine. what i've done is not more than some little tweaking. nothing compared to the roms dev work. not even close.
[Desire HD Android Development] hawkwind:
Well its a fantastic combined effort by everyone involved then :)

The tweak is really noticable now as well, unlock the lockscreen and bamm, the home screen is there in an instant.
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
Yeh its the way forward....I don't need the speed generally. I should imagine its only big game players that would need it. So battery life is more important to me :D....haha thanks. They're the same from splash screen and boot anim....all from the same 3d model....:D
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
Ok so where can I find nice miui themes and lockscreens etc???
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
one source is within the rom, press online ;)

the other one is in the forums of miui.us, miuiandoird.com, miui-germany.de and google :P

also on xda are some to be found like the new ics theme for miui that i am using. use xda search or i look later where i had that damn link :D
[Desire HD Android Development] hawkwind:
Was this thr ics theme http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18733569
[Desire HD Android Development] gillepy:
If your up for request James. I think Mr garaks lockscreen would look excellent if the orange matched the blue in the ice cream sandwich theme.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
yep

10chr
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
That would probably be quite easy but I can't seem to figure out how to do lockscreens lol.....Any guidance and I'll give it a go....
[Desire HD Android Development] derHeiko:
When I wake up my DHD, then unlock until I need to push it down and then the unlock pattern protection.

In CM Mod i can turn of the slide.

There are now also available in "MluI" a possibility to disable it?
[Desire HD Android Development] hawkwind:
Go into themes, select your theme and you can choose which componments you want from there to enable and disable.
[Desire HD Android Development] hypnz:
Hello a user

At ver 2.0 I have alot of fc at browser. Both miui browser and dolphin.
[Desire HD Android Development] derHeiko:
Sorry, but i didnt find it.

I see the current theme and can change it.

See under "lockscreen" also the style of the lockscreen.

But i cant disable him.

I just want this "Slide to unlock" disable. Not the pattern of protection.

Thx for Help :)
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
i don't know if you can disable the lockscreen but keep the protection pattern. i don't think it is possible on miui.

but i am not sure.
[Desire HD Android Development] Stitch15:
Am using the 2.1 version and noticed that vibrate on the keyboard doesn't work. Haven't read anyone else mentioning this.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
it's general miui bug of the stock keyboard.
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
Evening a user

Will there be a v0.5 release or only v1.0 sat\sun

Sent from my pukka fukka SCI MIUI
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
on 2.0? strange. the only change over 1.0 is the libaudio.so. there is something gone wrong on your device. too much undervolting causing corrupted files? you can try to delete data of the apps that make trouble.

if nothing helps do a full wipe.

@djscurf: no sorry... etiher tomorrow late or sunday morning v1.0
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
as i feared. the flash failed. you still have the old ones ;)

after you retry with manual mounting check that version again and post back.
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
thats right!

first mount system than flash.. or just copy those files with root explorer and than reboot!
[Desire HD Android Development] getaceres:
Now it's HTC 2.2.0131HM but still 120kbps :(
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
that'S the correct version for that rils.

well, then maybe try a different radio + ril. try this one:

Radio_12.59.60.26U_26.11.04.21_M

from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=996630

that is the newest one.

or alternatively this:

About radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M

the second newest one on the above thread.

edit: somehow i get the feeling the reason is something totally different we didn't thought off. the strange thing is that i can nowhere on the net find a similar issue. i even checked some spanish forums (i can read a little spain and in worst case translator helps ;) )

could you maybe try a different sense rom, like leedroid?
[Desire HD Android Development] getaceres:
I will try tonight at home. I don't want to change the radio since all the sense roms have RILs included for mine, so the flashing process is easier. I will try leedroid and virtuous unity and report results.
[Desire HD Android Development] getaceres:
Right now I'm in Virtuous Unity 1.31 and I get almost 2.5MBps. As it's not the same base as ARHD, I suppose it's related to AOSP ROMs.

Enviado desde mi Desire HD usando Tapatalk
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
well on CM I got on H icon 10MB download and 2 MB upload a month ago in the city..
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
i get on my sci miui rom the same speeds (well in fact a little more) than on my previous leedroid rom: down over 3MBit, up 600kBit. and this is what it should be here where i am on my provider.

djcsurf also has good speeds as far as i know.

i start to think this has totally other reasons. you should find another miui user with similar issues so that we can narrow down what it is. so far i couldn't found a spanish user reproting similar issues with miui while searching the net.

edit: btw. did you tried cm7? am very curious if you have the same issues there or if it really only happens on miui roms.
[Desire HD Android Development] getaceres:
Right now on Cyanogenmod 7.1 RC1 and I get 120kbps. Definitely it seems to be related to AOSP roms.

Enviado desde mi Desire HD usando Tapatalk
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
I would say it's related to APN settings for you're provider in AOSP roms....
[Desire HD Android Development] getaceres:
Maybe. I don't know anyone around with a rooted Desire HD. I've posted in the MIUI.es forums but it doesn't seem to be a very active forum...
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
+1 on this. good guess!

check out settings/system -> mobile network

and compare your apn settings to the provider provided ones. eventually add own apn or change the one you have.
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
or.

install sense rom,

install Apn backup app from market,

do a apn backup

install miui

install apn backup app

do a restore
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
and report back if it worked ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
Ive downloaded v1.2 Rom & 6.8 kernel, will install & provide feedback soon.

But first I wanted to ask a question, When installing market apps the directory is data/app, I like to copy and store my downloaded apk's to my hdd.

Like in LeeDrOiD rom there was a data/app folder within the zip to place any apk you wished, with the MIUI I cannot see a data/app folder.

So how can I add my apk's as I cannot find the data/app folder in the rom zip, as I dont want to put them into system/app.

Cheers
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
well, you could copy them with root explorer or similar from sd card to /data/app and then reboot. i guess this should work, but not 100% sure.

edit: maybe you should wipe dalvik and cache partition. i mean copy them, boot to recovery, wipe and boot to rom. rom automatically zip aligns them btw.

but i can include /data/app in the flashable zip of the rom for the next release so that one can do what you described. no problem with this. consider this being done on next rom release (hope i do not forget that :P ).
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
Im sure I'll be able to remind you ;)

BTW my post regarding J & W in T9 dialler is working fine today, I have no idea why as I haven't changed any settings, only rebooted.

Can I just add a data/app folder to the rom zip before flashing, or a bit more technical than that?
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
that's not enough. add data and data/app to the zip and substitute the udpater script:

META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script

with the one attached to this post.
[Desire HD Android Development] djcsurf:
Cheers,

Will try it now with fresh install of v1.2
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
remember to also flash the backup fix if you need the backup feature. i forgot to update the app in this release. just flash after the rom, without a boot in between.
[Desire HD Android Development] Sebz4n:
I kind of really like this rom, but I am not at all getting enough performance, thing such as Tap Tap Revenge is not running as smooth as it used to :/ Is this just me? I am using a users systune settings
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
sounds strange. don't know that game but never observed any performance issue. in contrary!

what kernel are you using?

even with the stock one everything should be fine, while lordmod provides better gpu performance on 3D.

maybe you have some kind of bug.

edit: judging by thhe comments in the market it is very buggy. many reports of crashes and performance issues. could be that due to being bad coded it makes some trouble with the drivers used on miui/cm7.1.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
maybe try using chainfire3D (the free version should be enough). with that you can change various stuff helping to improve performance.

i am using that to play tegra2 games and they play all smooth. even the graphically most demanding game on the whole market : shadowgun.
[Desire HD Android Development] HkDng:
Can you integrated screenshot by press power + home button? Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] hawkwind:
It is already there, menu and volume down button.
[Desire HD Android Development] naxuu:
You can take screenshot by pressing vol down + menu
[Desire HD Android Development] Selec1:
I have a question about the kernel and a users systune's settings. I've downloaded the CFS kernel and I use the presets from a user. Under the misc. tab I/O scheduler is set to deadline. Isn't it supposed to be CFQ? And what are the other options (noop, vr, et cetera)?
[Desire HD Android Development] Sebz4n:
Chainfire seemed to do it, thank you!
[Desire HD Android Development] alienmind:
I can't find shadow gun on market... Anyone could send me a link? Sorry for the offtopic....

Sent with my fat fingers
[Desire HD Android Development] RampageRR:
Isn't it a TegraZone game? If it is, you need the TegraZone app to get it, or ask someone with a Xoom or Atrix to download it.
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
it is but tegrazone apps will never help you. if you can't find it in the market then clicking download in the tegrazone app will report "not found".

you have to use chainfire3d "fix market". for that to work you need to have the nvidia plugin installed.

p.s. am cooking now the new rom version.
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
I gave options to users to chose which I/O scheduler they want.. I've set deadline as default... it's tweaked.. all test say it's the best choice, alo CFQ is the worst.. BFQ, VR, SIO are better than CFQ IMHO
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
This makes me :D......I'm loving my SCI Miui atm...Just trying to customise the graphics on it to the maximum and I'll be happy as a pig in ****!!
[Desire HD Android Development] a user:
done cooking. will flash it first on my device to verify no big mistakes.

btw., james could you improve the bootanimation to have the gears look more like in your sig and to spin smoother?
[Desire HD Android Development] horsetastic:
Yeh I'll have a look at it for sure....The gears are exactly the same only for some reason they shine more in the still image :S.....I'll definitely work on a new boot anim this week though...i'll sort something really nice and special for you :)...

I've had a couple of ideas :D

Still trying to figure out how to edit framework so that the graphics are epic, but it's taking me ages lol....Very time consuming work it seems....