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[Nook Color General] patruns:
Honeycomb on a 7" screen? ver. 3.0 no less? I'm not sure that I buy that part. I do not think Google is promoting any version of Honeycomb on screens under 10".

Just my 2 cents worth.... :)
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
The quality of the screen is going to be a big factor. That along with the battery life will determine how decent of a machine this is compared to the NC.
[Nook Color General] Masterface7:
I think the Galaxy Tab 8.9 will be the first one i consider upgrading too(now that the touchpad is out and less than stellar). Although the hardest part about moving past the nook is that i use the reader software as much as anything else.
[Nook Color General] docfreed:
Vizio VTab is Awesome

Had bought a Nook Color & rooted it, CM7, etc... Just took a chance on the Vizio ($329 at Costco). 8" of goodness with a Cortex A8 running at 1GHz, real buttons (they rotate as you turn from portrait to landscape) and three stereo speakers (also rotate as above), 1026 x 768 capacitive display

and I can't find much bloatware! Takes up to 32 GB SD Card

Tried to root with Gingerbreak and Z4Root - no joy yet. I may have to do it the old-fashioned way.

And it has the Nook app in ROM!
[Nook Color General] koopakid08:
So pretty much you got an extra inch for 70 bucks. Not exactly a good deal.
[Nook Color General] jacjar1:
This one has a built in GPS....Vizio Tablet..

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-8-Inch-Tablet-WiFi-VTAB1008/dp/B005B9G79I/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[Nook Color General] cesar2010:
i love my nook but i think the archos 80 will be a good deal...

http://www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=us&lang=en
[Nook Color General] fattire:
Wow these do look pretty cool... I have an omap4 pandaboard... will be neat to see these in tablets. The omap4 stuff going into cm7 will be pretty helpful for these things...

250 GB hard drive? Do they mean a real spinning hard drive? I can't imagine... must be an SSD-- but 250GB will be insanely expensive. [Update: Just checked, it uses the "momentus thin"]

5V start max current	1.0A
Average idle power	0.66W
Average operating power	1.30W
Average seek power	1.60W

So what will the battery life of those things be..?

Interesting. I really haven't paid any attention to what's coming...
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Maybe the third gen Archos tablets won't be complete CRAP? We'll see ;)
[Nook Color General] SmittyRN:
Acer A100 Now in stock..

It's now in stock at Superbiiz.com and on eBay (If I had to guess, the sellers on eBay are in with the same bunch at Superbiiz). Between $345-350 shipped either way you go, but from what I understand it should be selling for $300 or less on the official release date, which is now moved back to sometime in October. Thinking seriously about jumping on one just to play with it, but it seems kinda silly as I have my NC and my Acer A500 already. I've been pretty impressed with my A500 so far, so I've got high hopes for the A100. I'm looking forward to seeing a review discussing the battery life, that's the only thing that concerns me. I'll probably get a 7"-9" tablet later on this year, looks like there are going to be multiple options out there.

You still can't beat the NC though... unbrickable, the perfect size, and you can pick one up for under $200 sometimes.
[Nook Color General] Johnnybee:
Are you sure the offical realease date has been moved back to October? everything Ive read seems to say its coming out this month.
[Nook Color General] SmittyRN:
I stand corrected. I had thought it was this month too, then read a article that came out this weekend that said, "Acer's press release page has officially announced availability of the Acer A100 beginning in October...", then gave a link to the press release. When you open the link the Acer release says "4 Aug 2011 - Acer’s ICONIA TAB A100 - The 7” tablet based on Android 3.2 now available!

The wait is over! The 7” Acer ICONIA TAB A100, built on Android 3.2, is now available on the shelves..."

So I guess it's officially released.

But I'm looking at one of the Vizios now to keep on the coffee table, I can use the excuse that it makes for a bad-ass remote to justify spending the money.
[Nook Color General] jeremyshaw:
Just saw one at the local Target o.0
[HTC EVO 3D] jerrold24:
I read that the ATRIX receive 2.3.4 OTA update, when do you think the 3D will see it?
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
From HTC? Who knows. But now that we have root, we will probably be seeing some 2.3.5 coming up in the near future (AOSP of course). Also, 2.3.4 isn't reallyl any different from 2.3.3, other than the Google Video chat, which can already be used on our phones now anyways. Don't let 2.3.4 get you too excited.
[HTC EVO 3D] jerrold24:
Lol yea I won't, just can't wait to see what's to come now that we have full root.
[HTC EVO 3D] _Epic:
Now that I have root, I don't care about any updates.

We will have rom's to take care of that.
[HTC EVO 3D] JAWSxs:
I just picked up my phone and had a Application update for HTC Watch, Lockscreen, and widgets. Anyone see this update?
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
From what I remember reading... as far as Google is concerned, development on 2.x has stopped. Whether or not 3.x is still being developed I don't remember reading about, but I know they are working on 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) which is a collaboration of everything in 3.x and 2.x, and designed to work on both smartphones and tablets, so that they can get away from having different versions for different types of devices. This is said to be available in Q4 of 2011.

Now to keep developing 3.x when they are already planning on releasing 4.0 so soon, would seem pretty foolish at this point, but stranger things have happened.

Now, this also does not mean that HTC won't release 2.3.4 on their devices... this could still happen... but my guess is that they will simply wait until 4.0 hits and develop their interface and software for that environment, rather than waste the time developing applications and testing for the end of life 2.x environment.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Yea, I hope we just get bumped right to ICS, instead of any pointless GB updates. I only said 2.3.5 because when I was in the Evo4G section the other day, I noticed that the current GB Beta from Deck is android 2.3.5 (see here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1078558). I figured that when we get some CM AOSP on this thing that the nightlies will be based on 2.3.5. I haven't even looked to see what was included in the 2.3.5 update. It's probably a subtle change from 2.3.4, since it's only one point. I'm just so happy that we have s-off and will be seeing all this stuff soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] Unknownforce:
I just saw this update myself, Not sure what it entails, nor would I take it right now if my phone wasn't about to be replaced in a couple days, because it's possible they have found the exploit used and are patching it up with an update like this... unlikely, but possible.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I get it every morning (every 24 Hrs) I haven't downloaded it yet. I don't plan to.
[HTC EVO 3D] stevventimm:
Keep in mind that with HTC's update to 2.3.4 you will also lose the ability to sync Facebook's contact info.... Don't be too hasty to rush out of a good thing and into something that is a big disappointment. That was a huge let down when I got my nexus s 4G. Had to root to get back into a version that supports the sync. But its my honest opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
I actually got that update yesterday, and accepted it by mistake. I had just flashed a rom, and had done a full wipe. When I was setting everything up, the update popped up. I pulled down the notification bar, and had a bunch of other stuff in the notifications. I somehow tapped it, and once it started I was unable to stop it. It did nothing but update the apps that it said it would. I had a missing phone icon on my lockscreen after flashing the rom. After taking that update by mistake, and rebooting, the phone icon was back. It did no harm to my root or bootloader. Over 3G, it only took about 30 seconds to download and install the update (so obviously it was nothing of considerable size), and it showed each individual app it downloaded and installed, similar to how the market will update apps when you allow it to.

Not saying to take it, nor am I saying to ever take an OTA, because you NEVER know what HTC has slipped in....but I am saying that I did take the update and no harm was done. I think it was one of the OTA updates from before that I never accepted. I think the factory reset prompted it.
[HTC EVO 3D] SouthernEvo:
The most basic rule of thumb when it comes to rooting your device is NEVER take an OTA ever ! Like mentioned before HTC might have found the exploit and are attempting to patch the hole up . Im no idiot and Im quite sure someone from HTC has already downloaded Revolutionary and are currently disecting it to find out what it does to root the device . Any upcoming updates will more than likely be caught and rooted by a dev then posted for the general rooting community . Patience is a virtue that sometimes pays off big time in the end .
[HTC EVO 3D] jerrold24:
I took that update, I buy if you use crossfire don't do it. It update like Apps so it doesn't use the recovery, but you have to restart your phone and when it comes back its distorted like heck.
[HTC EVO 3D] ldominguez1986:
This sounds like the update they made on launch day to fix the problems with the missing phone icon on the lockscreen and watch was working for everyone at the time either.
[Atrix 4G General] anthonywoo:
Hey everyone...

Just wanted to comment on the Moto Atrix... As of now I'm just not impressed. I want so hard to be happy with it but it continues to disappoint. First of all... waited a very long time for Gingerbread, to just be more disappointed. I know I may get trashed for that comment but real performance geeks could not disagree... that said I work for Verizon and have a X2/2.2.2 and Droid 3/2.3.4 and the both blow the Atrix away with speed. The user experience is awesome with the Droid 3, it looks awesome as well as feels smooth as butter, the Atrix is not even close... just going from homescreen to homescreen is very choppy with the Atrix. All of my moto's are stock with the latest updates, bloatware removed (AT&T allows all to be removed) as best as possible.

PS: I also have an Inspire 4G rooted that I prefer over the Atrix, it also feels MUCH faster even though it has less ram and lesser proccessor.

Curious to here what others this of the Atrix compared to equal handsets... I know we all have favorites but Honesty please :)
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
You are compaing stock to stock... So, blame Motorola for releasing crappy unfinished version of Motoblur on the Atrix.

Atrix, D3, D2X all have pretty much the same hardware, so their raw performance should be identitcal.

With the Atrix though, we have an unlocked bootloader and CM7 in alpha stages. As soon as CM gets released, Atrix will blow other Moto phones out of the water.
[Atrix 4G General] JaronBang:
Actually the atrix still has more ram, internal storage, and a finger print scanner!

The atrix is >
[Atrix 4G General] RogerPodacter:
The 2.3.4 rom on the atrix is super choppy scrolling on home screens, but on 2.2 it was smooth. Launcher pro returns the smooth scrolling. But I agree its a shame a device of this caliber has such a problem.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
Install a custom kernel and it is smooth like butter.

Problem solved.
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
I'm running kens alien rom and my phone is crazy fast. As said, try a custom rom.
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
+ 1
[Atrix 4G General] anthonywoo:
I do want to love it... to be honest I'm a bit confused how to root. Been watching the forum here to see if bootloader is still locked and gatherd that it still is. It was easy with my HTC... still trying to figure things out. Was hoping that with a phone with this much power wouldnt need much seeing that stock I can uninstall the bloat.

HTC's Inspire forum gives clear instructions on how to root (simple too). Any chance someone could post a link on how I can root and install roms on my Atrix?
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
someone should make a video. as people did with gingerblur. there were like 10 of them lol
[Atrix 4G General] k4zyn:
+

= lolololol
[Atrix 4G General] anthonywoo:
Thanks for the help :rolleyes:

Not sure what's so funny... I have all three moto sets here in front of me, all stock... the smoothest one is the Droid 3. I'm not talking benchmarks, or Atrix fanboys, or really even comparing rooted to stock. As mentioned above there all stock (motos) and they are not the same! Actually the D3 has a very different UI, widgets, etc.

I guess I meant to say... it seems very confusing to unlock/root/rom using RSD or SBF or Fastboot... the HTC is straight forward. My Atrix is FULLY stock... with the OTA update .91. I cant seem to find a step by step to start from there. Any ideas k4zyn?
[Atrix 4G General] LivingChampion:
If your not using them all at their highest 'current' potential then your not actually comparing them at all. Best part is your posting on this website where unlock and root are very common.

There are many guides out there, use the search engine or just search the pages.

Never ever thought that I could run PSX on my phone at full speed. Thank you Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
You really haven't tried much have you. Read threads, ask questions, and you will learn how to do everything on the ATRIX. Ex: I joined this 2 months ago with my first android phone and it's now a custom rom kernel radio and recovery. And im international :p
[Atrix 4G General] anthonywoo:
Again... (hope i don't sound rude) I have looked, read, and read more. All the stickies in the dev fourm... all the talk about hard bricks, unlocking bootloader or is it unlocked? If it is unlocked is there a new way? I was just asking for help as you stated... again HTC was VERY clear... this is not. It seems there is not much new (if the bootloader is unlocked) posted with CLEAR instructions.

Wouldn't it just been easier to point me to the right direction?
[Atrix 4G General] wintermute000:
man you zinged him hard ROTFL

anthonywoo, if you really are a performance geek you obviously aren't trying too hard.... handy hint: in the development forum, second sticky post IN BOLD AT THE TOP.......

in summary

a.) Yes bootloader is unlockable.

b.) Once you unlock BL you can flash custom recoveries (CWM) and ROMs.

C just different tools/specific methods. I agree the info is all over the shop but seriously you should have a pretty clear idea of whats going on if you read the threads, and just need clarification on specifics.

Exactly the same concepts and ideas as HTC. Just tools and files are different.

Here is a basic guide for unlocking.... And no nobody will laugh if you ask 'is X file correct for Y scenario/hardware'. You're asking to be hand held...... big big difference

http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader

I'll throw in a freebie: USE THE CORRECT PUDDING (.sbf) FILE BE VERY CAREFUL, basically the article is how, the exact files etc. are in the stickied thread. And if thats too much for you, guess what, there's that massively popular thread for an auto unlock / auto root script... which is populated by people saying 'worked fine for me on 4.5.91'.....

And yes you fully deserve the tomatoes being hurled at you because OF YOUR OWN POSTURING. google 'atrix bootloader unlock', first link is engadget article linking to.... the briefmobile article I posted up there. Some 'real performance geek' you are
[Atrix 4G General] anthonywoo:
Man you guys are tough... :o

This is exactlly what is confusing... did the new OTA .91 give us an unlocked bootloader? I wanted to stay away from rooting until this happened. Since I still don't know the answer, it was stated earlier in this thread that it is unlocked... so do I unlock (no need to answer). This turned into somthing I didn't want, but I do know how forums go...

THE ONLY reason for my hesitation is in the "Pudding" sticky and other guides are months old. Pudding thread does seem to have some updated info, but like you said its "all over the shop"! I just dont want to brick my phone.

Also NEVER asked to be "hand held".... simply asked for advice or a point in the right direction... actually I just asked for a link.... hoping there was some info I missed. (hope that doesnt offend anyone)

WARNING WARNING WARING is a lot of what I see... bricked sets... pictures of bricks... thats why I asked.... Sorry, but I dont see much of that in the HTC forum.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182871

use this script to unlock your bootloader. if you're on Gingerbread 2.3.4, it will do a semi-hard brick. don't panic, when you get to the point where it gives you the hard brick error (0x1000 error), just boot into fastboot and keep following the script step by step. it works perfectly.

after that, use this method for rooting your device:

preinstall here: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=652327&d=1310460219

after you get that far, you're going to want CWM Recovery on your device so you can start to flash custom ROMS and kernels the easy way, you can find it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1138541

you'll install it by putting it in the folder with your fastboot files, and using the cmd fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (recovery.img being the cwm recovery img file)

if you have any more questions, feel free to ask. i just got my Atrix two weeks ago, it was very confusing at first. rooted it first day, tried to unlock it about a week into it... hardbricked my first Atrix. replaced it, and now i'm running on Ninja Speed Freak, with faux's custom OC kernel, overclocking at 1.1 ghz and undervolting across the board. experiencing 18 hour battery life, no lag at all pulling 3000+ quadrants on average using Quadrant Standard to run a benchmark test.

EDIT: Just so you know, after you unlock your bootloader there is no going back, and if you try to flash to a pre-2.3.4 sbf you will perma hard brick your device. you have been warned.
[Atrix 4G General] k4zyn:
Then stay over there........ the bootloader was JUST unlocked and the source JUST released. OF COURSE it's not going to be easy and smooth and worry-free right out of the gate.
[Atrix 4G General] wintermute000:
No 4.5.91 update DID NOT unlock bootloader,

but it IS unlockable.

Here is a long list of how tos.....

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xda+atrix+2.3+ota+unlock+bootloader
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
Damn, out of all xda device forums, Atrix one might just have the biggest gang of assholes :D

I am loving it. :D

Long story short, man:

1. The bootloader unlock thread is called "Pudding" its in the dev section.

2. Once you unlock flash CWM from the dev section.

3. From there on life gets really easy as you can flash roms, root, themes, etc via cwm.

Good luck!

My ATRIX has wrote this without my consent!
[Atrix 4G General] filmusikat:
Lol to everyone.

Anthony. I'm sure u can figure this out...hell I did. I also rooted my sisters inspire and I thought that was more complicated than the atriX. So this will be a piece of cake :-) everyone means well...they just want u to do your homework first. =P
[Touch HD General] meonline1:
What's the best Android Gingerbread for Blackstone? GBX0A doesn't have a proper keyboard.....
[Touch HD General] Eodun:
The keyboard doesn't work correctly in any device. Download "Keyboard from Android 2.3" from the market (via PC Android market if you can't with the mobile)
[Touch HD General] meonline1:
I know, just select the Japanese IME keyboard.

I got Smart Keyboard Pro instead, but thanks for the suggestion :)
[Touch HD General] arrrghhh:
lol, don't be so dramatic. It's a BLAC-specific issue... I know RHOD is OK, and stine tests on a RAPH110... I've bugged him about it, but he's not sure how to fix it. I probably didn't bug him enough :p.

I promise to harass him a bit more about this keyboard problem for the next GB release, k?
[Touch HD General] meonline1:
Nah, it's fine, I'm using Smart Keyboard Pro. It's awesome!
[Atrix 4G General] GreenCapDROID:
I've been on XDA for 2 days straight now. I just need some help. Everytime I search for what I need I find I'm getting side tracked to do 2 or 3 more steps to get to what I wanted... it's just getting way to messy and I have to ask some questions.

So here's what I've done, because I am a noob, and I do hate myself :confused:

Started with a Bell Atrix on 2.2.2 OTA, unlocked with RSD Lite and installed Bell Ihop, installed CWM with moto-fastboot and flashed a custom GB 2.3.4 ROM (RedPill). Everything went smooth.

Even using Bell_Ihop I still have less than 300mb of RAM. So I'm trying to find out what kernel I should use to fix that. The problem I'm having is that the root privliges are stuck, so I don't know what version of the kernel I need . I've tryed at least 4 different methods for rooting and all end up with root checker saying that it's not properly returning it's group id (BTW, I have no idea what that means)

root checker says:

Superuser.apk is version 2.3.6.3 - installed

Standard su binary location:

lrwxrwxrwx root root

su -> /system/bin/su

Standard su binary location:

lrwxrwxrwx root root

su -> /system/xbin/su

Alternate su binary location:

/sbin/su: Permission denied

I either need to figure out how to remove Superuser in 2.3.4 (so far I can't even locate it using any guide I've read here.) and reinstall it or if someone can tell me an easier way to find out if I need a d00 or 1100 kernel and how/when to flash it. I tried one kernel late last night and the phone wouldn't go past the moto screen, so I just ran though flashing the ROM back on and left it for the night. I throw myself at your mercy MODs :o
[Atrix 4G General] TheSmokingAndroid:
First off here is a link to some kernel's the i recommend, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1177556&highlight=international+oc+kernel

Not only do they have the ram fix built in but they are OC'd to 1100mhz (1.1ghz)

To find out which tegra part you have i recommend downloading "Terminal Emulator" from the market which is free. Then open it up (provided superuser allows you) and type these commands...

su <---then hit enter

cat /proc/cmdline <----then hit enter

A bunch of crap will appear and in that bunch of crap you need to find if it says this:

tegrapart=mbr:d00:100:800,kpanic:2100:400:800:

or this:

tegrapart=mbr:1100:100:800,kpanic:2500:400:800:

and then you download the appropriate kernel with matching tegra part to your phone...so it would be either the d00 version or the 1100 version =)

Hope that helps....NOW HIT THE THANKS BUTTON =) hehehe cheers bro!!
[Atrix 4G General] GreenCapDROID:
I have the terminal emulator and have tried su etc...

I get this:

$su

su: symbolic link loop

$cat /proc/cmdline

/proc/cmdline: permission denied

... the reason why I already know I have Superuser issues.

EDIT: I have 3 browser windows on 2 PC's with a total of 14 tabs open just trying to get this root to work again so I can run this command and move on with the right kernel. I know that's small beans to you guys but when your phone is far more powerful than your computers, it's a pain.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi3x:
Ok guys, I have a small problem.

I have lots of games on the sdcard and all together they are huge, like 11gb (especially the gameloft ones), so I only have like 300mb left on sdcard.

On the other side, I also have the external_sd where I have the videos and music etc, which has like 15GB free, but if I move the folder of games there, they won't start. Any advice on how could I move them on the external_sd?

Sorry of this may sound a little silly, but I can't figure it out how to make a little more room on the sdcard.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImWarped:
I suggest you buy a 3DS or a PSP... jeezus... 11gb available ROM and you filled it with games? Good on ya bud lol... however, you'd have to get someone to build a full rom that changes the mount paths on the SD and external SD. However, as specific as that kind of build might be, very unlikely.