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[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] M@|ice:
ok so maybe someone can help me. im trying to flash CM7 and i flashed it and forgot to flash the GAPPS thing before a reboot. i got back into my original rom and im ready to try it again. i have CM& ready to flash, but how do i flash GAPPS before the reboot? do i do the flash of GAPPS from within bootmanager, rom manager, or hboot? thanks!
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] strongergravity:
Flash gapps through bootmanager just like the rom, in the same slot. Dont wipe anything.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] M@|ice:
worked perfect. now do i flash kernels like imoseymons the same way? overwrite the rom slot?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] strongergravity:
Yep. The same way.

Remember to rename the slot to help you remember what you have.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] M@|ice:
worked out perfect, thank again for your help. :)
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] strongergravity:
That's why I'm here.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] dak_181:
disappointed that the synergy nightlies flashed to a slot put me in a boot loop. but was excited that all i had to do to fix it was flash the update.zip under bootmanager/phone :D
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] PUERTO_RUK:
Maybe I'm missing something but where can I find the gapps zip/ every time I try to boot from the app, its telling me either no Rom installed or no image found
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] rommer2:
I installed all 3 versions of the recently leaked GB ROM using bootmanager and interesting NONE of them will boot up. Best I can tell from adb logcat is that the ROM does a memory test and the wrong memory type is returned causing a boot loop at that point.

Smells like a bit of copy protection testing going on.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Towboat_man:
Yea something's not working right with the app... I can't get any Rom to install.....
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] strongergravity:
A lot of the Sense roms fail. I have Monolith running fine.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] icedventimocha:
Hey there, just wondering of anyone else is having the problem of Sd card space going into limbo if the ROM install doesn't go well (i'm talking the install or back up glitches and doesn't finish, not it actually finishing and getting a boot loop. I've tried wiping cache/dalvik cache, all the cleaning functions within the app. Deleting the slots and wiping the slots didn't work either. Like I said it seems to be in limbo, and don't feel like moving all my data off my card and reformatting every time this occurs. Any ideas?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] dpadaddict:
Hey guys,

I love this app. I also had some problems but now I have Gingeritis as my phoneRom and switch between SHIFTS3NS3 and BAMF which are all gb roms.

The trick I found was that if it doesn't load the first time keep trying, it took me about two tries to load SHIFTS3NS3 and about 3 for bamf. Make sure you use ext2.

Also make sure your phone stays awake.

If you have an issue email the Devs they responded to me with in 10 min of the email.

Great app

Sent from my bad ass Thunderbolt with Gingeritis 3D VIII
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] dpadaddict:
Delete the installed roms slot via Bootmanager, rebooted and try again

Sent from my bad ass Thunderbolt with Gingeritis 3D VIII
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
thank you very much for the review. i have a big favor to ask... would you mind wearing the holster on you and take a pic? :o pic of just the area where the holster is of course, not your entire body ;)
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
Regular way vertical:

Regular way horizontal:

Upside-down horizontal:

This is my preferred way to use it. It's upside down as the belt clip goes from under the belt, not over the belt. This way, the lever of the clip is not stick out and dig into your skin.
[HTC Sensation] ayvecs:
Thanks for your review it was great. I also have the seidio surface and holster combo too and it is working great. Your review was right on point, don't think I could have written any better. Your photos are great too. I also have a tpu case at home and will have to try that with the holster when I get home. It had crossed my mind to try that but I just did not get around to it as of yet.

But you are right seidio is one of the best cases out there along with the holster. A little expensive depending on what you are looking for but a great product nonetheless.

When I had my nexus one I had the same combination but they called it the seidio innocase at the time. That case took all the abuse and had the marks to show for it and my nexus one was in pristine condition, not a scuff mark.

Sent from HTC Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
Great review! Seidio does makes the best belt clip holster and I've always had one without the case! Wish they made it for a happy naked Sensation...
[HTC Sensation] WorldIRC:
Any issues with the case with regards to not having the holes on the back?
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
thank you very much for the new pictures! very helpful you are
[HTC Sensation] ayvecs:
So far no issues with the case even though four of the holes are covered. For me i was worried about that, but had to trust in that seidio knows what they are doing.

It took a little over a month before seidio released a case for the sensation so I hope a lot of thought was put into the design and functionality and so far everything is working well.
[HTC Sensation] iceshark:
Great review! I am confused to the pros and cons of the Surface model vs. the Active model? I do not use belt clips. I prefer to slip in pants pocket or shirt pocket.

I have been a fan of Otterbox, however they are SLOWWWWWWW anymore on coming out for cases for new phones. Like to try this one.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
The Surface model is hard plastic with rubber coating. It is is in two pieces and it slides onto the top and bottom of the phone and attaches.

The Active case is a comprised of a silicone gel skin you wrap your phone in, then a hard plastic "X shaped "skeleton" goes over the silicone and grips onto the phone.

The Active case has grips on the silicone skin, so it's more grip-able. I thin it's a bit thicker too. Also since a it's silicone gel skin style, it wouldn't slip in/out of your pockets easily.

The Surface's "rubber" coating is very nice and smooth. I actually shouldn't call it rubber. It's the soft-touch plastic paint that the battery cover of the Sensation is. Very similar to that.
[HTC Sensation] iceshark:
So it sounds like the Active is more like the Otterbox Commuter series. What sold you on the Surface model ?
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
I'm just a fan of the Surface series. I've had 3-4 of them on all the phones I've had.

I don't like the squishy feeling of the silicone gels on the Otterbox. It's also much easier to clean when there's dust/lint on the Surface case vs gel skins.

Here's a video on YouTube on the Active case for the Nexus S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwmMLm45elg
[HTC Sensation] daewond3r:
Damn, I should've waited a couple days to order a case! (Stupid me for drunk online shopping haha)

I love the way the Surface looks. I wanted one for my MT4G but they didn't make one.
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
They do now: http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4794.htm
[HTC Sensation] abuserkadayf:
i see that the mic and wifi holes are covered...
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
Did you not read my review?

The mic on the bottom of the phone is not covered. The Mic above the rear Camera is not covered. The other 4 holes are covered.... and that's still controversial as to what affects it has. Otterbox covers theirs too. If you open and look at your battery cover inside, and look at those holes, where the gold contacts are, there's nothing there. It's just a hole, there's no electronics. Covering a hole shouldn't do anything if it's an antenna, signals don't need to go through a hole to go through.
[HTC Sensation] mofoahh:
question, how sturdy does it feel on your belt??
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
It's very sturdy. The belt clip part is wide for wide belts about 2 inch wide belts. If you use a dress belt which is about 1 inch wide, course it wouldn't stay on the belt very well.
[HTC Sensation] Mystik:
I know you havn't had the case long but have you noticed any difference in signal quality with/without the case on 3g/4g/wifi?
[HTC Sensation] sbihue:
I would wait on adopting this since the holes are covered. Even though they are just holes when you look from inside the back cover, they are there for a reason, otherwise either HTC wouldn't have had them in the first place or would have them covered UNLESS the designer was napping when the die for the back cover was being cast :eek:

Moreover the Sedio case is expensive. We should have reviews coming out in a couple of months as people start adopting those. Meanwhile try with the ebay ones to get through this tough period :)
[HTC Sensation] Mystik:
They're antennas. it's been shown over and over again. there's controversy about covering them yes, and yes, they're there for a reason. It's a strange design for antennas for those that don't have an engineering degree in microwave antenna design, and it's certainly different than what most of us have seen before, but they're ANTENNAS.

only two holes have seals and a mic behind them, that's the phone mic, at the bottom, and the camera/secondary mic above the camera.

Could everyone stop *****ing about having these covered? if anything it will affect SIGNAL STRENGTH, if there's no functional difference in signal strength then the folks at Sedio definitely did their homework and used inert materials that the microwaves can easily pass right through to their destinations, which I expect they've done.

I only ask about it because there are some times that I have a very low wifi or 3g connection, and I want to make sure that with the case, I won't go from few bars to no bars, because of a case.

For 90% of the population, that stay well within the confines of 'good signal strength' this is a non-issue.

/rant
[HTC Sensation] 808HD2:
Got review OP. I just got this case in today and looks good, its thinner than my body glove icon slider case. I love the body glove case, alittle hard to get on and off but I like it. The surface case is way easier to get on though. All in all its I'm liking the surface case.

I wish the surface case was designed like the BG icon case though.
[HTC Sensation] iceshark:
What case offers better protection the Active or the Surface do you think?
[HTC Sensation] Jacobmowry:
Mine should be in later today. The body glove was giving me grounding issues with the screen. Hopefully there isn't any. Thanks for the great review.
[HTC Sensation] 808HD2:
I would say active, has a two layer part.. one silicon layer then a hard plastic over it..
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Radio Waves dont need holes yall...They couldnt pass through those holes without striking the battery cover anyways. Dont let a lack of holes over the antennas throw you.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] Mystik:
the holes are there to allow passage through the battery cover.

jeez. does nobody know anything about how electromagnetic waves are generated and behave?

I havn't even graduated college yet, and I've studied the topic out of curiosity.
[HTC Sensation] Jacobmowry:
I got mine in yesterday. I only got the silicone with the belt clip. no grounding issues what so ever with it. By far the best case I've tried for any phone.
[HTC Sensation] kru20o1:
Great review! Been waiting for a nice solid case and belt slip since I got my Sensation. I been using the bulky rubber case I got from T-Mobile. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Kid Poker:
I have mine out for delivery so I should be expecting it today. I had the phone run naked on the Ghost Armor skin and a pouch to carry it around. I just rooted it today and I can't wait for the case to come in =)
[HTC Sensation] n1ghtl1fe:
amazing review man :cool:

Ive used Sedio Surface cases on a few different phones. They're nice but really kind of always fallen short for me. For a few reasons:

-even though they have the felt inside, sliding it on and off can still cause scratches on the side of your phone

-they dont stay looking good, with normal pocket use and no drops a month in they start to really show wear n small scratches

For the price I cant justify picking them up anymore. I jumped on the cheap TPU cases bandwagon for the first time with my sensation and dont see myself turning back. Hasnt shown any scratches or wear yet and i prefer the one piece. It does get a little greasy though but i clean my phone pretty much daily so thats not really a problem.

just my .02
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
thanks for the input. I will second think about this before I decide to buy it. The only reason I would buy this is because I want the holster.
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
You can buy the Holster made for the Surface case seperately. It will work with most TPU cases.

http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/hlhtsenasc.htm
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
And? What is your point? Are you trying to say that those holes make all the difference in the field strength? If so, go take Advanced Electromagnetics for EEs...You got to pass Electromagnetics 1 first. ;-)

Go into a closed room, and make a call. Youll have much more in the way of the holes than a case. And next time, leave your student opinions out of here. Real world trial and error supercede what your physics teachers says, or dead people's laws. Insulting others to draw attention to what you have done a few homework assignments on is low class.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] sbihue:
I don't know why you had to rant and what got you so riled up. Are you a Sedio employee ;)

What I mentioned is common sense. Why spend 30 bucks on an expensive case before the verdict is in. The case has just been released with a few early adopters. As feedback starts to trickle in over the next few weeks we'll know if the case accentuates the signal loss or not. This was my opinion and you can disagree and buy one if you want but no need to disrespect or rant.

This phone has a known issue with WiFi loss and HTC is well aware of that. 90% or not, we don't have enough info if the holes in the case serve a purpose or not (other than your subject matter expert opinion). Do you think the Sedio engineers have more resources than HTC and are willing to invest as many resources to figure that out. I don't think they do.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
The case is made of plastic, right? Since when does plastic block RF and EM? It doesnt need much in the way of an investigation. Put some plastic over the holes and see what happens. Youll find that the RF and EM passes right through the plastic.

EDIT: I just put a book in the way of the cover (tightly so as to block all the holes) and tried a wifi speed test. Same speed with and without the obstacle...Now to go try some lead sheeting I have for my uranium rocks...

EDIT 2: My 2mm thick lead sheet didnt stop my phone either.

EDIT 3: Tried various plastic sheeting. HDPE and plexiglass. None had any effect at all. Holes covered up as well as the whole back of the phone.

EDIT 4: The mythbusters grand finale test: Wrapped the phone in aluminum foil and tried the speed test. THAT put a stop to that pesky connection!

We have learned that EM and RF radiation doesnt radiate like a laser does. Who knows why those holes are there? They likely were a mistake by HTC, or meant for something else. Its safe to assume these cases without holes for the antenna will work fine.

For the sake of science, we need some more people to copy this testing and see if it matches my findings. Then, testing can be over with. Unless of course, Seidio uses a new plastic that I am not aware of. Like, plastic metal that encases the phone.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] Mystik:
These "real world tests" are moronic. I understand the theory, and there's a possibility that problems can arise, some have had grounding issues with other cases and various other issues. I'm asking if issues of this variety are present with THIS case, not your tin foil.

The holes are there for a reason. Anyone who has worked in the confines of wireless infrastructure should be able to figure that much out.

HTC would not have made such an error.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Moronic? Grounding issues with plastic? You need to TAKE a class rather than F around with some crappy book examples. I am near done with my degree in Electrical Engineering, have spent most my life doing hands on learning to back up my education, and can tell you that you have a lot to learn.

How do you know the holes are there for a reason if you DO NOT know what that reason is? As of now, that is YOUR theory and the burden of proof is on you. So, go prove it and stop leading people to believe there is anything wrong with this case.

HTC would have not made such an error? Should I really address errors that HTC may or may not have made? Nuff said.

I think you ought to finish some more schooling before you grace us again here.

BTW, there is more than ONE way in to the phone for RF to couple into an antenna...Dont focus so much on those fricken holes.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] tabuburn:
how does this compare to the Active series?
[HTC Sensation] klr4life:
I recieved my surface case and belt clip today and i must say it is the best for the Sensation. I use to use the rubber glove from T-Mobile and it is so much better. Now i dont have to carry my phone in my pocket. Great investment and it feels good on the phone.
[HTC Sensation] sbihue:
I would still digress. I am not a physics student or a hold any special knowledge in radio technology. I think the holes serve a purpose. Could it be heat dissipation, could it be something else, maybe. We don't know unless we hear from the horse's mouth. You didn't design the phone and neither did anyone i know so this is a pointless discussion.

I have my opinion on this which I posted it without offending anyone. It seems, however, you have taken it personally and are out to prove something :confused:
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Screw it...I ordered one. It should be here in a day or two and then we will get to the bottom of this. :-D ;-)

Its nothing personal, I dont have stock in the company, but I just HATE to see false information spread around. Even more so to see someone insult others with their half @ss knowledge. Its like me telling everyone in my town that trying to S-OFF your phone will BRICK it, simply because a few people had trouble.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] squirly245:
Do you have a problem with a little un-evenness on the back where it meets? The top part of mine kinda humps in the middle where it meets. And the space between the two pieces are different when looking at the front of the phone.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Any pictures? From the pictures I've seen, the case looks pretty even. Maybe you got a defective one?
[HTC Sensation] Mystik:
Matt, I made it to "grounding issues with plastic" and quit. I will not have a battle of wits with unarmed people.

The rear cover is metal and provides ground for the capasitive touchscreen.

Enjoy.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
SERIOUSLY?!

Here we go again. Now I see what we are working with here. Your comment only goes to show you are very ignorant of charge, current, and fields.

YOU act as a ground for the capacitance. Current travels to YOU as if you were the earth. Ever see a tesla coil in operation? All that a case will do, as far as the field is concerned, is add to the dielectric. The current will still flow to you (acting as a ground, or connected to ground) via the field created. Look up what it means to have capacitance. We have capacitance ourselves. Anything that can conduct current will have capacitance with respect to another conductor. Two conductors with separation is a capacitor.

Try it out. Anyone here can verify this. Put your phone down on an insulator, then you stand on an insulator, touch your screen and see what happens. I just did it to amuse some people. It WORKS! Holy smokes!

And guess what?

I HAVE THE CASE AND IT WORKS GREAT! It is on, nice and secure, and NO issues with ANYTHING other than the COST.

BOOM!

This is not a battle of wits, by any means. Its simply a matter of physics, and you simply dont understand what you think you do.

I do thank the OP for this review, as it is what pushed me to finally buy this case. It is very secure and went on easily. The clip is just as nice. Now I can handle my phone like a man!

Matt
[HTC Sensation] sbihue:
You ordered the case y'day (as per your post above) and you have it in less than 36 hours. You must be living next to the Sedio warehouse :D
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
HTC depot is very close to me! :-D

Matt
[HTC Sensation] baraider:
Thanks to the OP,

I order the Surface combo for me and a Surface case for my wife's Samsung Galaxy S 4G.

They all arrived today. They look very flimsy when I first took out but when I put it on the phone, it fits very nicely and give a sense of strong protection.

I specially love how the black combo loom on the HTC. They look really good and this thing looks like it will last for long time.
[HTC Sensation] Mystik:
I've already stated, I will not argue with unarmed people

... but by all means, keep talking matt. please.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Nice defense...next time, check your facts before you come on here and act look an idiot.

Btw, thanks to the laws of physics, my phone is still working great with this case on. Don't fall for supersticians people, that's how you miss out!

Matt
[HTC Sensation] gqkevyn:
I'm no expert or anything, but I know that the Thunderbolt also had these holes. All the holes did was basically allow HTC to put an antenna on the outside of the battery door. If you look closely you can see antennas on the back door. HTC's own OEM extended battery door didn't have the holes when they put the antennas on the inside. The hole is required only if they choose to put the antenna on the outside. As far as I've seen the plastic used to make cases do not block any signal.
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
Went camping a few days ago. Last day I was packing things up and dropped something on my phone/holster and it fell on dirt/pebbles/sand.

Phone was in the holster when it fell on the ground.

Picked it up, blew off the sand, some marks on the Surface case, rubbed it with my fingers and it's all gone. Still looks new.
[HTC Sensation] sbihue:
HTC support confirmed that they are vent and riveting holes. Which ones are which, the tech didn't (or couldn't confirm). He also indicated that they have a lot of queries on this lately and would be updating their web page for HTC sensation with this info.
[HTC Sensation] ebocioj:
awesome review I owned the surface combo for my nexus one and loved it.then I got the my touch 4g and the surface case was horrible 2$ eBay cases was sturdier. Will be picking this up for my sensation!
[HTC Sensation] ayvecs:
I have the seidio surface combo and this evening discovered a crack on the plastic part in front of the power button. Only had the case for a month and was not expecting this and I am no way hard on my phone.

Will go through the warranty process with seidio and will just go back to my tpu case which works with the holster.

If otterbox had released a defender case instead of the commuter I would be giving that a try.
[HTC Sensation] skyhigh2004:
Does anybody know or has anybody tried to see if the otterbox commuter fits in this holster?

Sent from my Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] ufokid22:
I am Sooooo not liking that case at all it's just black boring and more boring .....
[HTC Sensation] ayvecs:
True the case is kind of boring after awhile but does give your phone some protection.

Just got the seidio active and so far I am liking it, little bit more protection while also being a bit more stylish. Doesn't even make the phone feel that bulky.
[HTC Sensation] jhobert:
Do they sell the holster for the naked sensation?
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
Delete, stupid phone
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
Doesn't look like it, not on the site
[HTC Sensation] bangsters:
I prefer no case at all. Unlike my HD2 the Sensation's battery housing covers the whole phone, so if I drop it or nick the edges of the phone, it's easy to fix just by buying a new battery cover.

As long as you don't drop it too high where it will shatter the gorilla glass.

Although if I'm going to use a holster and case, I will go with that one as it looks nice.
[HTC Sensation] Five0nIt:
I know eBay has them. Cheap too, $4.99 I think