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[Desire General] ArtBrut:
Hello guys,

could anybody please post again the exact versions of the pre-installed Apps that come with the Update to Gingerbread, for example GMaps, Flash or GMail?

Especially regarding GMaps I'm a bit confused now, because somebody in this thread wrote it is 5.7 (extended cache functionality would already be available) and someone else wrote it is only 5.2.

Thanks in advance!
[Desire General] adwaitk007:
I just updated successfully but m not noticing any change. Just icon on navbar r changed n about mobile shows ginger bread. I was expecting change in lock screen, keyboard theme, camera theme but nothing is changed. I googled for changes and it shows lot of changes in theme with official rom upgrade such as black dark keyboard, bottom side centered lock,etc. So I am confused, is my update considered a successful?
[Desire General] erklat:
Yes, you were expecting Desire updates which weren't supposed to happen.
[Desire General] Draqula:
I think it was 5.2 because extended cache was not available but why care?

You can get and install any version, the latest being 5.9, if not from market, then you can find APK installer from the net.
[Desire General] tasior666:
Works for me on a pure N WiFi network at home.
[Desire General] cartus:
after updating to official 2.3 my flash and camera are out of sync too, flash goes before taking picture resulting poor pictures when in dark rooms. any idea how to fix this?
[Desire General] TVTV:
I've found a weirder issue, but then again i'm using a "light" official GB ROM: the calendar snooze does not work. Can any of you guys test and tell me if you're experiencing the same issue, please?

Later Edit - No problems with the calendar snooze. The snooze interval is set to 15 minutes on GB, and the reminders stop firing after the set event time has arrived. I had the default notification time set for 10 minutes before the event, so the snooze reminders didn't go off after the initial reminder.
[Desire General] JohnZS:
I have also noticed like many users above that the amount of system RAM has been reduced from ~512MB to 384MB, not only with the official update, but also custom ROMs based on this.

Perhaps it is a bug with the update?

I can confirm that with 2.2 I had ~340MB of Free system Memory (RAM) and 150odd MB used out of a total of 576MB of system Memory

Now with the 2.3.3 based update I have ~200MB Free system Memory and 100MB odd used out of a TOTAL of 384MB

Have they reduced all model of Desires to the same specs as the USA Desire?

Or is this a bug?

John
[Desire General] cartus:
Same here but nobody has an answere yet.
[Desire General] TVTV:
The Desire does have 576 MB of RAM, but some of it is reserved for the OS, caches and other things like the video memory, making only a portion of the total amount of RAM available for the user apps. Same goes for the Nexus S (only 384 MB user-available RAM, the rest being OS reserved), for the Desire S, HD and Z and so on. :) No need to fret about this issue as this is not an issue but a "feature" of the Android OS.
[Desire General] theoverseer:
Is the new market installed?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
someone posted that 19MB was moved from data -> internal storage I think
[Desire General] kepisty89:
I got few question for those of you who already done upgrade:

1. Did you lost contacts/apps/calendar etc. data after update?

2. What about internal free disk space? (Is it more/less?)

3. What about battery usage? Is it improved? Some feelings?

thanks :)
[Desire General] erklat:
Nickilauws posted it is 128 now and I did the math :D
[Desire General] atridhr:
Can anyone please give me link (or write steps) with simple instructions on how to backup all my data, put gingerbread 2.3 and restore data on my phone.

I have unbranded, not rooted phone with 2.2froyo.

Thank you all.
[Desire General] kepisty89:
on developer.htc.com you have got instructions how to update (in the GB package)

But you have to backup data on your own.
[Desire General] mrror:
What about data that can be backed up only with root access (stock apps data, Angry Birds data... there are surely other cases I'm forgetting right now). I have a rooted Desire and I use Titanium Backup to keep everything when I upgrade or when something goes wrong. But... if GB can't be (yet?) rooted, and then TB can't be installed after the upgrade... how do I restore such data, if there's a way? :confused:
[Desire General] Bilbo Fraggins:
Should I expect any problems if I have a goldcard installed that helped me debrand from Orange?
[Desire General] kepisty89:
In my opinion you don't need root to backup apps. You can use some similar app from market to do that.

But the Titanium Backup is only for ROOTed phones, so you won't be able to use it after update.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
edit: YES new market was part of the upgrade so never even saw the old market or had to update it.

Well, I'm pretty sure I could not have saved 60mb!!! just by having a clean install with all of the same applications installed?

I did notice that some of the apps I moved to SD took up MUCH less space on internal than before.

Example would be Moboplayer. It used to take 5.5mb of internal even when moved to SD card (8.5mb total size). Now it takes up 348KB!!

I also did not have to install FLASH 11, Gmail, Google Maps, You Tube etc as these were all part of the upgrade package. Usually after a factory reset on 2.2 I had to go and install all that crap again. latest flash,gmail,maps etc. It took up 30mb at least. that has all be saved.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
Yes. you lose EVERYTHING!!!! messages, bookmarks, apps, contacts.. EVERYTHING!

Only the SD card is safe.

I think Internal space is much better as the upgrade includes latest market, flash, maps etc...

I have no idea about battery use. I only installed it 3 hours ago.

As per my last post, I believe the savings in internal memory is to do with how the apps are stored on the card.

On foryo 2.2 Moboplayer is 8.5mb. When moved to SD card it still uses 5.5mb internal.

On GB 2.3 Moboplayer is 8.5mb. When moved to SD card it uses only 348kb of internal.

What has changed there?
[Desire General] Tuulikuilu:
I've usually been able to find everything I need with a Google but now I had to register to this site to ask about UI languages included with the HTC Desire 3.2 update for developers...

So, What UI languages are included and is Finnish among them? Originally Desire didn't ship with it and some of my friends don't have it but I bought Desire kind of late and comes with the Finnish language support. Not that it matters that much but it's something I'd like to keep.

HTC should have released a complete list of changes and software features included in the update instead of that small summary on their Facebook and developer pages.
[Desire General] TVTV:
How about other apps? I'm thinking of installing the update myself, but i'm waiting on some proper reviews. If the app 2 SD feature was this greatly improved, then i will install 2.3 in a heartbeat.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
I didn't take a before and after note of all the internal space used by my apps.

but here are some more examples..

Flash 10.1 shows up as taking 56kb of Internal (used to be 11mb)

GMAIL takes up 1.5mb (used to be 4.5mb)

Maps takes up 3.8mb (used to be 11mb)

Flightradar24 pro takes up 76kb (used to be 850kb)

etc
[Desire General] theoverseer:
I can't move Flash, Gmail or Maps to SD card on Froyo; I assume they can be on GB?
[Desire General] nhrsak:
i have problem with GB :( i can get in menu for hard reset (volume down+power button)

I have 81mb used and 67Mb free Internal storage

And 150mb used / 239MB free ram

Programs:

Adobe air, Flash, New Market, Facebook, Astro,Endomondo, F1 Timing, ATK,Tetris, Vplayer
[Desire General] Qreg:
Since this is a RUU update do I have to flash in the Froyo RUU first? Or can I do it ontop a rooted, S-offed device?
[Desire General] Bingley:
You can do it atop the rooted, s-offed device, but you'll lose your root and s-offedness. Which, currently, is unrootable and uns-offable.

So much for unlocked bootloaders, HTC!

I'm trying to get the /system to under 180mb so I can use the Bravo Data++ partition without using the sd card. Could do with _another_ layout, 200mb or so :)
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
No! they are part of the upgrade itself. No moving them anywhere, but they take up much less in internal space as they are integrated into 2.3.

In 2.2 I had to install them separately into internal memory to get latest versions. No need with 2.3. Latest versions already part of the upgrade. 123mb internal free with all of the above already installed.
[Desire General] Bingley:
That's useful, until an update is released whereby they'll stay in /system, unused, and the new version will go into /data, using up memory.

@mcgon1979 How have you unrooted your 2.3 Desire?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
your problem will come with the next update of Flash, maps etc. when it'll all be on internal storage and wham your space will be gone in a heartbeat.
[Desire General] Qreg:
So if I understand corretly, one using the 2.3 update (the official one) you wouldnt be able to use the 2.2 official RUU to revert the changes due to the new bootloader?

(sorry for newbness but I flashed, rooted and s-offed my desire for the first time yesterday as I couldnt wait for the official GB).
[Desire General] Bingley:
I think this is part of the problem people are having - the ruu will not let you downgrade, and as you can't root you're kinda stuck.
[Desire General] spritable:
One think that i've noticed is the very smooth scrooling in each applications - browser, apps with multiple pages, etc. It's like iphone smooth.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
no - it says your current version is too new
[Desire General] Lothaen:
hboot seems to do nothing so its kinda pointless updating it - may as well just flash the rom manually without the hboot upgrade...

some people say it doesnt change partition sizes at all
[Desire General] @MARK:
This is what is making me hold back.

I want the extra space but do know that when i did a 2.2 clean install, I had loads of space left to start with.

Then the updates come and before you know it, you are out of space again.

I think I need to hold back for a few weeks and see what happens.
[Desire General] owziee:
Does the pre-installed Google Maps use the SD card for caching maps and stuff just like the one downloaded from market???
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
wifi-n enabled with this update

You can check "about phone" pages; it is stated 'wifi-b/g/n'

(Hv tested it already)
[Desire General] Guilherme Noronha:
My phone is from Europe (Portugal), but I live in Brazil. I've been using the phone here with no problems at all. After reading the advice to NOT install 2.3 on several places, including South America, I was thinking:

Since my phone is a European variant (which, I repeat, is working perfectly here in Brazil), can I have problems such as loss of SMS/MMS functionality due to incompatibility with my Brazilian carrier?

[UPDATE] Just updated my phone to 2.3 and everything is working just fine so far.
[Desire General] Guilherme Noronha:
New items under Sound Settings:

Pocket Mode - Increase ring volume while in pocket or bag (probably using proximity sensor)

Flip for speaker - Turn over your phone to activate the speaker during calls

New items under Call Settings:

Internet Call Settings (for SIP)
[Desire General] spritable:
"Pocket Mode" and "Flip for speaker" are there since 2.1 and maybe before. I had those when I bought my Desire a year ago with 2.1.

SIP is something new.
[Desire General] TrTech:
Does srsly nobody noticed the huge improvement on audio quality if recording video?

They finally made it useable! 65kBit/s, 44kHz!
[Desire General] erklat:
Stock 2.2 has only reduce on move. There was only one option in 2.2 and now there are three of them.
[Desire General] Dave.a:
Camera video sound

Hi, what about sound in recorded videos? Is it AAC or old AMR? Thanks
[Desire General] TrTech:
facepalm²...
[Desire General] Zratul:
Just updated the HTC Desire test device we have here at work.

Just after the update we can see that the internal storage is still 147MB total but 20MB are used, even if we have 0 downloaded apps. Someone has said that about 20MB of data were moved from /data into internal memory, it must be the explanation.

I tried with a static wallpaper and a Live Wallpaper -> the transitions between home screens are worse than before. The framerate drop is small but it's here.

The scrolling in the App Drawer seems to be faster.

As the latest version of Flash is bundled with this release, it doesn't appear in the Downloaded Apps but into the System Apps. But when Adobe will release another update, Flash will retake its place into the downloaded Apps and into the internal storage eating 10+ MB.

We can see this behaviour with Google Maps. 5.7 version was bundled with the update so it didn't appear into the Downloaded Apps Tabs as it was into the /data partition.

But I just did the 5.8 upgrade, Gmaps now appears into Downloaded Apps and take almost 11MB (unmoveable) from the internal storage.

The fast boost works pretty well.

The Gingerbread new ability to move Native C/C++ libraries into the SD card along with assets (in Froyo, App2SD moved only assets) is great because all thz applications written in native code (a lot of games, alternative media players etc...) will now almost take nothing in the internal storage as the app will be almost entirely moved to the SD Card.

No changes for big applications written with the classic toolchain in Java though.

Too bad, the quick settings are not present in the notification bar.
[Desire General] Deeco7:
How is the 720p working guys? Can someone extract and upload the apk? Thanks!
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
hv noticed that vibration effect on ring, alarm etc. slightly weakened in this upgrade which is positive imo
[Desire General] owziee:
Thanks for that information... Maybe it's worth upgrading after all... Because this will make 2.3 better for the Desire in the long run due to it's small internal storage.
[Desire General] mfknboss:
I dont own a desire,but my friend does..anyone know if u update to gingerbread can u still get s-off?
[Desire General] mpokwsths:
Exactly. The only disadvantage I found is the less fps in home screen animation. I would say about 25fps now. It was 30fps with 2.2 Froyo.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
yeah, but you would have to

root

flash the rooted version
[Desire General] mfknboss:
Cool...thanks! :)
[Desire General] pauliusba:
Did anyone notice that under "Hardware information" it has only 384MB RAM? Was it always like that? Why not 576MB RAM?
[Desire General] owziee:
That doesn't sound good... Where did all the RAM go???
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Holiday, probably will come back in september

Or probably some ram is reserved for system processes :p
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
I noticed two, I immediately call my friend and ask him what does his phone said how much memory does he have he said same 384. I don't get it really it suppost to have 576.
[Desire General] erklat:
Leak has 405 in total.
[Desire General] owziee:
Is it possible HTC removed around 200 MB of ram and made it work as a type of ramdisk to compensate the small internal storage?

BTW... The US Cellular HTC Desire only has 384 MB ram: http://www.htc.com/us/products/desire-uscellular/#tech-specs
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
when I checked before upgrading mine, it was 103 free out of 415, now 80 / 405 at the moment. That was never 576 as stated on the specs.

Well also on the paper it has 512 Mb rom but actually we have just 148 (this figure has remained unchanged after the upgrade) available to user. The only explanation for this fact is apparently that the system uses the rest.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
clarification...

the figures in my reply based on data reported by a third party app, in the phone info it is 384 as well.
[Desire General] timtime:
I only recently (last night) managed to s-off my device using revolutionary after being unable to do it with either unrevoked forever or alpharev.

So getting to my point, today I installed the official gingerbread update and it all went fine, out of curiosity I decided to check and I still have s-off. So was wondering if other people have found this, as I have seen people saying they lost s-off.
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Then Desire have 384 MB RAM not 576. With this "gingerbread" wich I dont call gingerbread becouse it's not it's practicly just a number 2.3.3 on Desire and little improvment in speed and minor changes, what I see on other htc phones that have Gingerbread this one looks like a skinned chicken to me, It don't even have G from that word, why did they bother to roll him out like this and be silenced on what they cut from him, just roll him out you like it or not they don't give a ****, gingerbread isn't gingerbread without Sense 2.1
[Desire General] bw7and:
If you want to give the ROM a try, it is available on HTC’s developer website, and you should know the following risks:

“This Rom update is for development only and not for general public use. Upgrades to non-authorized phones may result in loss of functionality. In addition certain functions may no longer be usable after re-flashing the ROM, including but not limited to MMS and SMS and HTC also disclaims liability for any unusable functions. HTC disclaims liability for the loss and/or leakage of any personal data resulting from the re-flashing of the ROM”.

this is what i have come across on gingerbread review of HTC desire

did any of you experience problems in data connectivity or SMS/MMS???

also how is the battery life compared to that on fryo??better??improved??
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
No issues, battery same as it was on Froyo.
[Desire General] gerhard_wa:
Just for the record: Send a picture of the HBOOT screen with the HBOOT number and s-off, could be fun to see as you are the first!
[Desire General] Foxhunter123:
Have just compared a Desire with Froyo with my newly Gingerbread-updated Desire. They both have turned livewallpaper off and they are exactly the same when you go to the homescreen that is the most to either left or right and then press the home-button.

So I cannot recognise your fps problem...?

I have noticed though that in Gingerbread it scales the screen different - like right now when I'm typing this reply the screen jumps up and down...? Weird and not seen with Froyo...!
[Desire General] KF2007:
Did anyone check if there is a navi panel (car home) in this update?

If not could someone check the one from this thread?
[Desire General] owziee:
Not that it's a big deal but some people must be really drunk around here. I was bored so I decided to update to this rom. Flash, Google Maps and Gmail were all old versions!

So much for that saved space! Updated them and bye bye to lots of storage space!

I really like the new updated zoom feature while texting and stuff though :)
[Desire General] timtime:
Here it is, and my phone is definitely running the official gingerbread from the htc developers website.
[Desire General] gerhard_wa:
This is very unique since all RUUs will wipe the phone clean before installing partitions and HBOOT. No one else has been so lucky from what I have read…

Then you must be able to root it?
[Desire General] cartus:
updated to 2.3 now google maps is old 5.2 and cannot update since not in market, how can i update to 5.8?
[Desire General] theoverseer:
Flashed last night. Changes I have noticed:

- Flip Clock has animation

- Android smilies now appear in Friendstream

- Browser seems slightly different

- Downloads in All apps

- Green pointer when typing

- Black notification with green outline button on mail and message icons

- Text is smaller is some applications

- Pocket mode, flip for speaker, Screen lock sounds in Sound Settings

- Ability to delete old messages automatically

- Improved App2SD

- Fast boot

- Reboot in shutdown menu

- Manage applications looks different

Appologies is some of these where on Froyo and I was too clueless to see before.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
in addition to them;

+ wifi-n enabled (see "about phone / hardware" info)

+ "restart" option in shut-down menu

+ vibration effect slightly weakened in ringing, alarm etc.

+ better performance in general

but personally I do not see any improvement on app2sd feature. After the upgrade, when I put all my apps back and checked their sizes, didn't notice any difference. Some of the major apps like Flash, Maps, Market, YouTube etc. they are exactly same size as before and there are NO any single app which has become moveable to sd after all (unlike alleged by someone in this thread)
[Desire General] Zratul:
The App2SD improvement only concerns apps written in C/C++ native code, not standard Dalvik applications.

Try games like Angry Birds, Cordy or multimedia player like RockPlayer, MoboPlayer etc...

Angry Bird Rio takes something like 22MB in internal storage. 4MB after a Froyo App2SD but only takes 240ko after GB App2SD
[Desire General] theoverseer:
Interesting to know. Might put Angry Birds back on then
[Desire General] roma_pop:
In new htc mail was unable to accept untrusted certificate in POPs or SMTP in SSL or TLS mode. :mad:
[Desire General] decmk:
Opera mobile on gb only 300k

On froyo was 10mb+
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Compared to the stock froyo or a custom deodexed froyo rom? I think that can make some difference maybe
[Desire General] cartus:
fixed google maps update to 5.8 with an apk found on the net, still not found in market app
[Desire General] theoverseer:
I managed to update Google Maps from the market - so much for the most up to date version being included in the ROM!!

I also still have the old market; I thought people said the new one was included???
[Desire General] erklat:
Gapps probably are not available in his region, thus he is not able to see it.

How about an impact to your internal storage after the update?
[Desire General] theoverseer:
I've not installed that many things back on since I've updated, so I can't really comment.

Installed the new Firefox Beta, which was something like 13meg at first, but after App2SD went to like 244kb.
[Desire General] cartus:
Gmaps was available in my region until update, now is not.
[Desire General] mikey242:
I also have the exact same thing on my phone, although used alpharev to s-off my phone.
[Desire General] gerhard_wa:
Well, ok then, are you able to get root in some way? Do you have a custom recovery left, CWM or AmonRA?

Could there be something incommon with your phones that enables your custom HBOOTs (two different ones) to resist being replaced with the new one from the RUU?
[Desire General] alexalexandrow:
GB download from HTC's dev site

Sorry guys, this might a wrong thread for this, but...

I've loaded the official zip a couple of times (like 5 or 6 times, even using different browsers - Chrome & Opera) and each time WinRAR (CRC - file corrupt) and even Win Explorer's built-in zip unpacker (0x80004005 - unspecied error) fail to open the package. The OS is Win7Pro x64.

Does any one have the official update posted on a different site?

Or what am I doing wrong?

Sorry for a noobish question.
[Desire General] toopy:
Market, my apps maybe? For gmapps
[Desire General] gerhard_wa:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo

There are two files here at the bottom, they are the same, only one of them is zipped.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
I too hv Win7-64bit and succeeded installation without issues. As zip program I am using 7zip which is a freeware app you can download from download.com. (You also need to have HTC Sync installed on your computer however this has nothing to do with your problem in question)
[Desire General] cartus:
Check your pc ram with memtest bootable cd
[Desire General] mikey242:
I didn't have a custom recovery after upgrading (had clockwork before hand) but I my phone was still s-off'd (using alpharev). All I needed to do was reinstall clockwork in fastboot manually (unrevoked didn't work).