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[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Oh, sure, it's updating some apps.. Just some are showing up without the ability to update.

Like I know at least a few apps have updated and they don't show up as needing updates. Or look at Appbrain, you can always see app updates there regardless of the market.

Seems like it's just filtering more apps than it used to. I'm about to remove the new market, it sucks anyway.
[Nook Color General] votinh:
Silly question, but how do you guy get the new Market?
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Installed automatically on my NC.. Lucky me. There are also apk's floating around.
[Nook Color General] Maugchief:
I'm having a similar problem since updating to nightly 142. Certain icons are no longer visible in Launcher, Advanced Uninstaller, or Titanium Backup. When I visit the Market I'm not given the download box in the header or an update option. Almost as if the app is incompatible with the device. I tried the Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data procedure with no different result. I did get the message when returning to Market, so I guess I cleared something. The effected apps ( that I'm concerned about ) are Facebook and, of course, Angry Birds. Couple others as well. Thanks for any suggestions
[Nook Color General] mrkavanagh:
^THIS...Oh SO much THIS

I had to do this today so that nook tweaks would update
[Nook Color General] votinh:
Thanks, m8.

You aren't the first one saying "it automatically updated" but surprisingly, mine doesn't. Don't know why.

Yes, I can see some Vendor (Vending?).apk floating around the net but no clue which version they are.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Didn't help the issue at hand here for me either, unfortunately..
[Nook Color General] Maugchief:
Sorry you're having the same issues. I also posted to the cyanogen forums and am still waiting for another reply to the post. That's where the Titanium Backup suggestion came from. Here's hoping for another suggestion here.
[Nook Color General] psychoace:
It doesn't seem like the market notifies you if an app needs a manual update due to changing permissions anymore. Also I get a Appstore and market both saying I need to update Amazon mp3 and after I update one the other app store will still say it's not updated so you have to update again in order to clear the two out
[Nook Color General] elwood1229:
I am having the same issue as the OP. Agenda Widget Plus and Facebook disappeared from my "MyApps" list but can be found by searching. I have the new market and going into settings to clear data and cache for market did not help. Had been working without issue previously. I am running n146.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
I disabled MarketUpdater.apk last night and uninstalled Market updates and I STILL am having problems with SOME apps.

Oddly, I can see Waze again, but I still cannot 'see' the Plus version of Android Agenda Widget and a few others. I CAN see the free version of Android Agenda Widget, go figure. For some reason I can usually see apps in AppBrain that need updating, but those apps have also disappeared from AppBrain, so I'm not sure what I'm missing currently.

Damn you Google, what are you doing?
[Nook Color General] elwood1229:
Same situation for me. Went to a backup of an earlier nightly that still had the old market and even there Agenda Widget Plus was missing. Also checked the android market web site and it shows Agenda Widget as incompatible with NC. How does the market determine whether an app is compatible with a device? I contacted the Agenda Widget developer and he said he had not changed anything.
[Nook Color General] patruns:
I'd kinda like to know that as well. When I originally downloaded the crappy Facebook app I had no problem. But when I go to the market on the website now it says it is not compatible even though it works fine. I suspect now that the market is "device aware" any of my installed apps that get updates will not show if the app is no longer considered compatible so I will be stuck with the older version.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
My guess is that Facebook can use the GPS, or Microphone, Camera... some hardware we don't have.

This is new behavior, at least changed behavior, and it's very annoying.
[Nook Color General] Maugchief:
I've read that "device aware" suggestion in a few places, and decided to try the build.prop edit that I've read about elsewhere. Changed the device name to Samsung S and manufacturer to samsung. It didn't make a difference. I also can't understand why Angry Birds and Checkers could be device specific. The Market definitely knows I've got Nook because it is grayed out in the drop down box. I hope brighter minds than mine can come up with a work around.
[Nook Color General] DrSarcasmo:
I have the same problem. When the new market downloaded on the Nook, I would get a notification stating I had 5 updates. Only 3 would allow me to update, the other 2 would only offer me the option to open them. And Angry Birds won't update either...

Running CM7 nightly 143 from SD...
[Nook Color General] KnowledgeBroker:
I extracted the vending.apk from the gapp.zip and installed it, and behold.. the order and chaos app I have been trying to get to show up now does, and I could buy it. I love the new market, but until that is fixed.. screw it.
[Nook Color General] danmaskell:
I was getting the error "Package file is invalid" on any of the available updates for the past few days. Clearing Market data got rid of that problem, but now the apps that had updates available aren't showing in my apps list. When I search for them it says they are installed, and when I open the item it gives me the option to update. Problem is, I don't remember all the ones that had updates available (and now aren't showing in my apps list). Not a big deal, and certainly better than the inability to update.
[Nook Color General] Maugchief:
Silentbtdeadly- are you saying the vending.apk was missing or you just overwrote/ reinstalled it? It's listed in my /system/app/ folder. If this is the solution I'll take it!
[Nook Color General] Jimbo67:
I would like to know how to do this! I want my OLD market back! Waaaaa
[Nook Color General] effinay:
Missing Download button

Here's what's happenning to me...

Facebook had an update. So I opened the new market and went to My Apps. Facebook is not listed as being installed. I searched and found facebook, but only has an option to open or uninstall. No update available.

So... I uninstalled facebook. Now, I can still search and see it in the market, but there is no Download button!! I can't install it.

FWIW, this is not the only app that has done this. Once I uninstall something from the market, I can't go back an reinstall it, even though I can search for it.

:confused:
[Nook Color General] biohazrd51:
Just pull the vending.apk from old gapps zip and install it (it will remove the current market). That should allow you to download applications you sometimes cannot access with the new market due to device restrictions.

Or, if you have another device that can download it, install it on there, do an adb pull, then install it on the NC.
[Nook Color General] elwood1229:
I have had problems with several apps in the new market. "My Apps" just now showed two updates available: Scoremobile and Tapatalk. Scoremobile would update, Tapatalk wouldn't. I went into apps>settings>market and uninstalled updates. Went back to market and the old one was there, then updated Tapatalk. You had to be quick though because as soon as I closed Market it updated itself again. This reminds me of several months ago when you couldn't see anything in My Apps at all. I wish someone would look at this thread who might have some idea as to what is causing this problem.
[Nook Color General] Jimbo67:
I totally agree elwood, that someone with "market sense" will chime in about this new market fiasco! Updating installed apps has become a Nightmare! I wish it had not automatically updated--the old market just "worked"!
[Nook Color General] rsage:
Same problem as everyone else - running latest CM7 nightly. My market auto-updated to the new market. I used to have Button Savior (free version) installed, but uninstalled it a while ago. I want to install it again - it's still showing up in the new market, but now there's no Install button. I went to market.android.com on the web and tried to OTA install it from there, but it says my Nook is not a compatible device.

On the Nook I went to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications and uninstalled updates for the market app, and now I have the old market. Problem is it keeps auto-updating to the new market, which brings the problems back. Is there a way to keep it from auto-updating? If I install the old market from an old gapps.zip, will it continue to auto-update?
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Remove MarketUpdater.apk from /system/app, or freeze it. You'll need to put the older Vending.apk on there too, as it seems like Vending might do some of the filtering. Just the old market won't help.
[Nook Color General] elwood1229:
Thank you for the suggestion, it helped--kinda sorta. :-) I froze marketupdater.apk , reinstalled market 2.3.6 (I am assuming that is vending.apk) . Now I can see and download a couple of the apps I wasn't able to before. They still don't show up in My Apps, though. In the general market list, however, they do show up as installed. They also show up in App Brain, so that may help with updates. Better, but not perfect. I am still not clear why making market "device aware" means some apps are not compatible with NC. I have talked to one app dev and he has done nothing to indicate his app doesn't work with the NC. So who makes the decision and based on what?
[Nook Color General] irisclara:
Ok, I got everything to update but Crackle which seems to have disappeared. First I cleared cache and data as described earlier in this thread. Then I checked My Apps. The ones that had updates (according to AppBrain) weren't there and when I searched for one it didn't show an option to update. Then I uninstalled update on the market app. This made the market go back to the old view. Then I searched for one of the apps that AppBrain showed had an update. When I found it, it let me update. It would probably have worked if I had just clicked on the updatable apps in AppBrain and followed the "update in Market" link but I didn't try except for Crackle which isn't showing up in the market at all.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
No, AppBrain will show you what's updated vs what's installed but it doesn't make the Market magically work ;)

It is very handy for seeing problems like this, or updating stuff you've sideloaded. I beta test for a few programs and often I miss when the release hits, so I have the beta sideloaded and then I see in AppBrain that there's an update that I don't see in the market.

But as for the market apps, I'm still missing a bunch. I need to replace Vending and clear market data and see if that helps me.
[Nook Color General] Maugchief:
khaytsus - Could you point me to a tutorial for sideloading apps? I'm still not clear as to the procedure. May be one for "replacing Vending" as well. It is a system file correct? I'm assuming just renaming and copying one from the zip isn't going to work. I just don't want to hose the whole thing and have to go back to square one.
[Nook Color General] irisclara:
khaytsus, I see I was being incoherent again :o. I meant that I got the android market to let me update everything that it had previously been hiding (except Crackle) and that since the android market was working correctly again (for me) I may very well have been able to access those updates by using AppBrain's "update from Market" option rather than searching for the apps manually in the android market. I may be wrong but I assume that since I could update them through the android market it shouldn't matter if I accessed the page with the update button by searching for the app in the market or by following a link to it from another site.

Maugchief, I think it depends on your file manager. I use root explorer and I just download the apk from my dropbox and tap it. I am asked if I want to install it and I say yes. Simplicity itself. If your file manager doesn't do that I know I've seen apps in the market that install apk files. As for renaming and copying the Vending file, yes, it is that simple. It should automatically install in the right place. If you think you wrecked it just download the new market apk from here and try again.
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
Hrm. I...

a) Force-stopped Market

b) Cleared data

c) Uninstalled Market updates

d) Renamed /system/app/MarketUpdater.apk

e) Rebooted

and got the old Market back, but many of my apps (that say Installed when searched for) don't show up in My Apps, even if un/reinstalled from the Market. Am I missing something obvious?

Rodney
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Apparently have to replace Vending.apk as well. I haven't tried it yet, keep meaning to. Just reflash GApps, then make sur eyou remove MarketUpdater.apk. Or extract Vending.apk and push it, whatever is easier.
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
Tried it...no change. :/

Rodney
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
Gah...the Market is a source of serious frustration.

If you revert to the old Market, whether by uninstalling or reflashing gapps, you must disable the Market Updater...which has the effect of causing random applications (whether from the Market or sideloaded) to have their icons disappear, even though they still show up under Applications and still show as installed in the Market. The only way to resolve this is to enable the Market Updater (which apparently updates your apps in addition to the Market application itself) , and shortly thereafter you will get the forced OTA update of the new Market. At that point, any apps not "compatible" with the Nook cannot be updated and, if uninstalled, cannot be reinstalled. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

The Market is a *mess* for AOSP! Is there any alternative?

Rodney
[Nook Color General] DizzyDen:
For those with market issues... you may want to try a build.prop edit... need to specify ro.product.manufacturer, ro.product.device and ro.product.model.

I now have market thinkin my NC is a Samsung GalaxyS SCH-I500...

Updating IMEI generator to be able to set these 3 instead of just Manufacturer and Device.
[Nook Color General] Jimbo67:
Ya know, I was thinking this very thing at work today. I said to self-Hey, we used to have to fool Netflix into thinking that our NC's were some other device, by editing the build.prop--Why can't we fool the android market the same way???

And, sure enough, Dizzy, you are all over this idea!;)

Thanks for entering this discussion with your wisdom!!!
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
Haven't had much luck with build.prop - at this point I'm guessing either IMEI or need to spoof components like GPS (already tried Fake GPS).

Rodney
[Nook Color General] Centromere:
so can anyone confirm that the changing the IMEI trick works?!?!

really want to get my market going again lol =P
[Nook Color General] john10101:
I tried changing the build prop, and it did not work
[Nook Color General] Jimbo67:
I also tried Dizzy's changes to build.prop--No luck here either.
[Nook Color General] DizzyDen:
I don't know... I just know I have used them... and I am getting app update buttons and everything seems to be working ok... I cannot guarantee that it will for everyone, or anyone... only that it is for me.

But, I have had IMEI and different device manufacturers and devices since I included those abilities in my IMEI generator... and just recently updated the IMEI generator to include ro.product.model with the build.prop edits.
[Nook Color General] Jimbo67:
Dizzy, I hope that I have not offended you--My god, you have done so much for ALL of us! It is impossible to thank you enough for what you have given this community of NC owners!

It seems that with soooooooo many settings and tweaks--some, or all, just do not work--for some or most.

Thank You for ALL you DO!:D
[Nook Color General] DizzyDen:
No, you haven't offended me at all.... and I agree that with so many possibilities, finding a dead set fix is more complex than ever. Honestly, the thought of device specific information to get around the new market was just a hunch... and seemed to work well for me, so I passed on my thoughts and discoveries.

These things can be fickle, all we nooksters can do is try to help each other out...

Again, no offense taken at all.
[Nook Color General] DiDGR8:
So if changing build.prop doesn't work, the only way to get notified of updates is by using appbrain? Then using the old market with market updater disabled to manually update? I'll have to try that.

I can live with the market app not having all my apps. It is already incomplete because of the apps that I have gotten from Amazon and sideloaded or restored from Titanium Backup. I just miss the notification of updates being available.
[Nook Color General] irisclara:
Me too. Now it's just another thing to remember.

No, I just tried several times to update Cool Reader and the market kept closing and force updating. It's officially moved past annoying and into PITA. I don't want to sound ungrateful to the fantastic devs for all their hard work but market needs a serious going over, preferably with a club.
[Nook Color General] jmglag:
Ditto to all the frustrated posts. Same problem on my new CM7 nook. :mad:

Is there anywhere, any web page, that has downloadable free apps that we can sideload with easyinstaller or similar install program? Specifially an Adobe Flash that WORKS on CM7 please?

I love how the new market is slower & bulkier than the last one. But thank goodness it is prettier! :(
[Nook Color General] crstfr:
i hate the new market on nook....and i tried to revert back to the old on my EVO with no luck~...

i used TB to uninstall the new market.... .then froze the update... rebooted to recovery... wiped dalvik/cache..then flashed old market zip.... rebooted.. went back into TB to see what version.. . its the updated one!.ggrrrrr.

darn this...
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
I think I've hit on a solution that's workable, if a bit convoluted.

If you force close Market, "freeze" /system/app/MarketUpdater.apk (either rename it with something like Root Explorer or freeze with something like TB) and uninstall the update to the Market (restoring to "stock", or what ships with gapps), *without* clearing cache or data (which appears to solve the "disappearing apps" problem), you can get the Market to a point where it will at least allow installation of most apps, but will not automatically find updates.

Then install AppBrain App Market, which through its Manage And Sync function will allow you to see updates and install them via the Market.

It's a bit of a PITA, and requires essentially manual installation of all updates, but at least you can see them and install almost all apps (at least all the ones you always could with the old market).

Ideally, if Fast Web Installer worked as intended (it appears to for phones, but strangely not the Nook), you'd essentially have a full replacement for the Market without having to use it as a download/install/update shim. Unfortunately, while FWI _appears_ to function...it doesn't actually do anything.

I can live with this method until something better comes along.

Rodney
[Nook Color General] PoisonWolf:
Same problem here. Since the new POS market arrived, I can't "update" Repligo Reader anymore. However, I can update it on my phone, what gives?
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
I somehow have some apps I always find in AppBrain but not market anyway, so I'm used to this process. I'll give it a go.

Did you have to mess with Vending to get your "old" capabilities back?
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
No, just force-closed and uninstalled the update (after renaming the MarketUpdater APK).

It's unclear to me whether the lack of updates in the old Market applies only to apps that wouldn't update in the new Market or if it's everything...I suspect the former, but can't say for sure until a few days/weeks pass with some updates. At the very least, at least we can count on AppBrain to reliably tell us which apps have updates, regardless.

Rodney
[Nook Color General] rsage:
Confirmed that Rodney's solution w/AppBrain seems to be the most reliable at the moment. I had previously thought that just freezing the Market Updater and rolling back updates to the Market app was enough. When I did that, I was able to access all previously hidden apps, and I was still getting notified of some app updates in the My Apps area of the Market. Turns out I was only getting notified of some but not all app updates - I installed AppBrain and there were several additional updates I wasn't seeing in the Market. I was able to manually update those apps in the Market once I was aware of them.
[Nook Color General] JeremyNT:
This is really asinine on Google's part - why would they want to lock out potential customers from using the market?

Guess I'm going to have to switch over to Amazon completely, even though they have obnoxious drm. What a pita.
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
Maybe because none of us paid the gapps licensing fees and thus are owed no support at all?

Rodney
[Nook Color General] JeremyNT:
So they so would rather not take my money now? I don't follow that logic at all.

They're free to do whatever they want with their service, but I can't see how this is good for anybody (except amazon). Turning away customers is a bizarre businesses model.

At least we do have a choice in app stores.
[Nook Color General] skwalas:
For what its worth, according to the market help page, missing apps is a "new" problem that is being looked into. This suggests it may not have been an intended effect of the new market after all. And for the record, I am currently missing nearly every app I actually paid for in the "my apps" list, even when reverting to the old market!
[Nook Color General] DiDGR8:
I don't see this as a big win for Amazon. Because of all this mess with the appstores, I've been monitoring version numbers of all my apps very closely. I hadn't realized how slow Amazon was with putting updates up for the apps in their store.

AppBrain has been MY best friend in all this, just don't try to use FastInstaller :)
[Nook Color General] Barleyman:
I know this isn't too helpful, but with cm7.1 rc1 I could see and install many of the apps mentioned here. Eg flash, button Savior, wifi analyzer..
[Nook Color General] dr4ggy:
Another thanks to Rodney, your solution worked great.
[Nook Color General] skwalas:
My experience this morning:

Played around with the apps (including uninstalling the new market) to check on different apps. I noticed a couple of things. 1) New market recognizes the apps that are installed even if they don't show up in "my apps". Searching for Flash for example, shows it as "installed". Most people already have noticed this also. 2) One of my "missing" apps showed up this morning as needing an update. I had noticed last night that it had an update dated yesterday. But... I had manually updated it through old market last night. Now this morning, it shows it needing an update in the new market, and after updating, shows up in "my apps" again.

I quite honestly think there's a buncha glitches going on with the new market at the moment causing a lot of this missing apps business, and less about it being device aware.
[Nook Color General] rhester72:
It's definitely related to device awareness. If you search for apps on the market web site, you'll note that all the ones with "missing buttons", that don't show up in My Apps, and/or can't be installed or updated all show as incompatible on the web site. That awareness has always existed, but was not enforced in the Market app until the new release.

Rodney
[Nook Color General] arda99:
I'm not sure if its CM7 or the new market, but I used to run rooted B&N 1.2 and the nook was listed as compatible on the website.
[Nook Color General] koopakid08:
For what apps?