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[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
because having different colors on left than on right is the best on the market
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm not angry at all and totally respect your opinion which I'm sure some others share also. But if someone considering buying the phone read some of the posts in this thread they'd run away screaming. Even if I was in the OP's shoes I'd be pissed but wouldn't assume that my experience mirrored the masses. I have nothing to back-up what percentage of phones have screens that are unacceptable but, if it was a huge number, you'd see tons more threads and posts. Go look at the Sensation, G2X, and Atrix forums.

I deal with customer expectations in business all the time. No product or service can be perfect on a large scale. Some customer's expectations aren't realistic and we factor that in to our quality measurement. I'm sure Samsung does too. You guys make it sound like two rice farmers in a paddy are building these phones. I guarantee you that Samsung's pulling random samples off the line and doing their own QC testing against baselines and benchmarks. Even if they gave two craps about their customers; defects, returns, and exchanges cost money and it's in their financial best interest to keep the rate of each down because the costs directly impact profit. That's why I reacted to your 95% statement.
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
whatever I just hope the new kernel fixes this. Else it would be a shame. Besides some minor bugs the phone is really amazing.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
If I can't see it in everyday use it's not a problem. I rarely take pics of my phone better yet in dark rooms, at 10% screen brightness, and on solid grey backgrounds. Instead of comparing the SGS2 to utopia, compare it to the Atrix, Sensation, and O2X/G2X which all cost about the same. Even with its warts it's by far the most solid of the four.
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
Yes that's what I partially meant also I have read the last 40 pages of the thread as well as the first 10. It's just that the Amoleds made by Samsung were always faulty with me. Arguably I may have had bad luck but looking at that growing thread it doesn't seem like it's such a nice "feature" to have. Also I do agree that the other dual-core phones are worse but really should that make Samsung sell defective products? It's like saying companies shouldn't push technology further because atm everyone has dual-cores. No there needs to be innovation, change. Also as my country isn't really the richest one and our monthly sallaries aren't thousands of $$ I can only say that I'm pretty dissapointed by the way we are treated by Samsung. Also I had decided not to return it because of my friend. He got the purple-like screen and really that is VERY noticeable even at high brightness(much more noticeable than the yellow tinted one).

and yes I am very anal on these kind of problems. I'll just wait for the Sammy official 2.3.4 update(just in case they have other defects in sleeves for me)
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
I agree that the S2 is the best dual-core phone on the market as well but it does not mean that the defects on the other phone should be the starting standard for this. The absolute main point here is that the screen is one of the biggest or even the main marketing point of the phone, The Samsung Wave which had a SAMOLED screen didnt have this issue, the Galaxy S1 which had a SAMOLED screen didnt have this issue, so why should the SAMOLED plus have defects and be treated as "normal" , right?
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
Oh man I didn't count it :-)
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
If someone can't see anything there is no need to force them to see. Its about satisfaction. If they are satisfied with it, awesome. But so far I am not.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Some will claim that they dont see it, I dont normally ask for proof on those. Others on the other hand will say that no such issues exists on their screen.. either they post pictures with massive yellow tints or just dont post at all :D
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
I don't say they don't do QC checks of course they do. But their acceptance criterias suck then. Isn't there any possibility that they don't reject easily just to release them to the market and if someone buys and don't return anything its their profit?
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
Funny fact I think I've started to see yellow in every grey out here :D

Developed yellow tint detection eh ?
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
Its the same kernel in every Canadian phone why there are lots of color variations?

If they release a kernel to compensate the yellow tint what purple tinted phones will look like then? Also no kernel can fix the color change that happens when you view from a slightly different angle (which my Sgs and my friends SGS2 don't have)

I just can't risk my 700$ hoping a software will fix it.
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
I can't do much to it.Compared to my N8 the DoA is over. As EarlZ said the KG1,2,3 fix pretty much of it.(And I really hope that).
[Galaxy S II General] kbiz90:
All the reviews I've read rave about the screen. The SGS2 might not meet your exacting specifications, but it seems most people like it despite its flaws.
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
Samsung should fire their QC inspectors and hire people from XDA. At least people in this forum know how to check for defects.

Edit: I know they take few samples from a whole batch and check those :-)
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
That's all I was trying to say. And EarlZ, I don't know what type of vendetta you were trying to settle with that peculiar rant aimed at me personally, but I'll let our two post vs. thanks ratios speak for themselves.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
That color change in an angle affects all the SGS2's but some to a more extensive degree, this is because of the quantity/quality (cheaper) oleophobic coating they used. The S2 retailed a lot cheaper price than the S1 even considering more than double the specs.

The reviwer units have no yellow tinting on them you can check the video or the pictures they provide, this is also confirmed by a local blogger at YugaTech since he was given a review sample ( which was returned already ) he confirmed that his review sample had no banding issues what so ever.

Please do quote me that I said I didnt like the phone, I love it despite its flaws. You not coming from the previous generation of SAMOLED screens dont understand why we feel this way or maybe your phone is affected a lot less than others.

The S1 didnt have this issue, so why should this be acceptable with the S2? So if the S3 comes out with a SAMOLED HD and even have more color/quality issues than the SAMOLED Plus, would you think its acceptable?

I dont have a personal vendetta against you, please dont flatter your self too much, I was merely stating the facts of the way how your good at watering down this issue to make it appear as this is extremely rare and a defective screen should be acceptable since the other 5,999,990 buyers didnt complain about this. This is not a personal attack or anything of that sort, just stating out facts and observations on your post.

Remember you keep saying that every one is affected differently, you may have one of the best screens on the planet thats why you will never be able to understand the grievance and the moaning of others. Im happy and all that you have a perfect screen but at least stop being bitter/hostile towards those people who got a really bad screen.

Since I flashed with a 2.3.4 firmware you dont see my *****ing or complaining anymore on the other thread as it has become very very acceptable for me to the point that im not complaining anymore.

Also using the number of thanks as a basis for who has the better opinion is just beyond me, also shows the maturity level you have. Again, this is not an attack/personal vendetta/threat please dont role play anything in your mind. Just keeping the discussion here.
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
mate I don't really think it's that. I just think he is(just like me) annoyed by this issue. It's not what I would call a vendetta. Anyway I don't mind my screen having a problem. What I do mind though is when all the screens I've seen suffer from yellow-tint(or worse purple-tinted screens and to a degree SLCD-like Amoleds with washed out colors) and Samsung doesn't say A WORD about this. I don't ask for a replacement screen. I just ask for an aknowledgement. Yet Sammy doesn't do that due to the fact it will(most likely) hurt their sales.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Regarding returns, heres what I've noticed. The store that I got this from ( even till yesterday ) tells me that Im the only person who returned it due to the yellow tint issue which they easily saw the yellow tint on my first phone considering autobrightness was blasting around 50-60%, but they told me its not a big deal ( they as a reseller have different expectation or goal ) but they replaced my phone anyway apart 2 other screen related problems. The day b4 that 2 of my buddies replaced their phones and on that same morning a fellow local forumer also posted that he had his phone replaced. Sammy may have instructed retail stores to just accept or deny replacements and say its the first time??

When I went to the service center for my supposed to be 3rd replacement, I asked to speak to the technician directly and In a low voice he did tell me that Im not the first one to report this issue, infact just for that day, I was the 4th one to request an RMA.
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
Eh atleast you noticed it fast enough and got a lesser tinted one. I didn't so I can't replace it.

Anyway this whole fiasco with the Amoled screens seems really bothersome now...

Have a look:

some Desires: Purple tint

some Nokia N8/C7:Purple tint

some Super Amoled phones:Green,Blue tint

almost all(if not all) Super Amoled+ phones got: purple/yellow tint

now may I ask which is the next color in the Amoled rainbow...(let's hope blue at worst as it degrades over time and it slowly turns to normal)
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Based on the S1 forums and feedback the bluetint noticeably gets better over time. Others in just a couple of weeks if they use it for movies.. something like 300-500hrs of screen time.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
Having a hard time believing this story all together. A white spot which is half a centimeter in diameter? You don't need to pul down the statusbar for that, such a huge blob will show up anywhere. Just for practice get a ruler and measure out 1/2 cm on your screen to see how big that is.

Unless CA got a batch of defective phones, you must be the most unlucky person in the world. The law of averages dictates that such an event is highly unlikely. Oh well if it did happen then you can sleep well knowing you saved 5 other people from defective devices.

Or what about the: "If you look at it from the side you see a bluetint" "issue". Who ever looks at his/her phone from the side? Why is this even an issue?
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Because it didnt happen to does not mean the other person is making things up.

Its not actually from the side, other units that have too much oleophobic coating ( as believed by barry ) give out a massive color shift ( to blue ) then viewed from an angle, this basically limits the viewing angles to dead center. Again, I understand that you dont understand this issue as it never happend to you but I got this with my first phone, the 2nd one has absolutely no colorshift even on the extreme angles. This is what got my phone replaced instead of the yellow tint that the store deemed as a non issue.
[Galaxy S II General] seshmaru:
I keep seeing arguments like "if I paid 500 dorra for it it should be purrffaact".

So what, do you expect your device to be made at the highest peak of mount olympia? Forged by Zeus himself under a new moon while using iron mined out of the underworld itself while Freya inspects it for 3000 years just to check if your device is worth the $500 you saved up for half your life?

for $500 you can get phones that are a lot more flawed you know, $500 isn't that much.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
For a cheap $500 phone the quality is acceptable and I agree $500 aint much as I earn more than that in a days wages but it still does not excuse them for releasing the screen with such issues, if they had a S2 Plus version that costed $5000 id glady buy it for a perfect screen. Thats roughly a week's wages gone thrown down for a toy but its worth it.
[Galaxy S II General] seshmaru:
Well the majority of the users don't have any issue, every product will have a % of faulty devices. Currently the only major screen issue present based on % of devices that have it is color banding, but this is software not hardware.
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
Actually... It does, it's called trolling. One person having 5 defective units in a row is exaggerated.

If it holds any merritt, I'm the proud owner of a repair shop one of the few with JTAG equipment. I've had a few SGS2's here, replaced the screen of 4 units. Haven't seen what you are describing. If the coating on a few units does not meet quality requirements then those people should just return their units.

This is my second unit, returned the first unit because of a dead pixel. Samsung exchanged my unit for a new one in 3 days. Great service. Besides these 2 units 4 of my friends have this device, none of which have this problem. Again I'm not saying there is no problem, however in my opinion some people exaggerate too much.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Defect rate on the screen is quite high but I would not go all out and say that the majority is or is not affected. You and I dont have any proof to back this theory up.

I respect your opinion to call him a troll since his experience is not yours so I understand that you fail to understand what he feels, If its any consolation out of the 30+ phones I've seen theres only like 5-6 good screens, Im not claiming this as a majority since 30 is not remotely close to seeing 1million phones. I guess my buddies were also trolling me when they had the phone replaced for 3-5 times with different issues. They got the S2 way ahead than mine, damn IRL trolls!

Again, just because you havent seen the excessive coating on the screen doesnt mean it does not exist, also consider different batches shipped at different times from different points of origin with different stored duration to let the coating cure properly, a lot of these factors. I respect that you own a reputable repair shop but honestly it does not hold any merit as there really are defective batches that went past QC.

I've also had my phone replaced, too bad you had to wait 3days, I only had to wait 3mins for samsung to sign my replacement, great customer service.

Still I love the phone and wouldnt not exchange it for anything else, I would have preferred it to be like this out of the box though instead of needing to apply fixes that stressed me out for a week or so.
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
I don't know in what world you're living but S2 is far more than 500$ like erhmmm 50% more

edit: also GIR would you mind showing us your "perfect" screen. nothing personal but seeing in like 200 pages everyone that pretended to have a "perfect" screen discovered either the yellow tint or the pruple one, I really doubt you are anything special. if you can't prove your statements YOU are the troll.
[Galaxy S II General] Teknohtc:
Hey man sorry to hear about your problems with the sgs2. I got the sgs2 from VM at future shop (eglinton and laird) and it's perfectly. Try the VM one as well since you can use the Bell sim in anyways.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Mind showing us this perfect screen ?

EDIT:

For those asking how XXKG2 affects the screen

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16143629&postcount=1780
[Galaxy S II General] kbiz90:
I understand your position. There are problems with the display - some hardware related and some software related. People have complained about tinting, yellow edges, grey banding, suction cups, dead pixels, the coating, and more.

However, people like you are in the distinct minority. Otherwise we'd see it in the reviews. Even if Samsung sent a flawless SGS2 to every site that reviewed one (which is unlikely), they couldn't have sent it to every consumer reviewer. I just looked at the Amazon websites (US and UK) and searched on "screen" and "display" in the consumer reviews and almost all of them had positive things to say about the screen. Even on XDA, the majority don't complain about the screen. Even in this thread, you're in the minority.

Even if we assume all the screens have some sort of defect, it's clear that the majority of people haven't noticed or they don't care.

C'mon EarlZ, you're nitpicking.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Since we are a minority we should just shutup and accept this issues as normal, is that what you are trying to say?

So no you dont understand our position and never will, its like telling a blind person that you know how it feels to be blind when infact you have a perfect vision your self.. sure you can close your eyes but you can never really understand how they feel.

Im not nitpicking, what you and the others dont understand is that even if its a minority its still an annoying issue and second is that you will never understand how we feel since you dont have our phones in hand.

BTW, I've already stopped *****ing about the yellow tint issue since Its been fixed with XXGK2, but the other screen QC related issues are also concerning, probably not for you since you havent seen them anyway.

Think about this the SGS1 screen had no yellow tint, pleas elaborate and enlighten me why this kind of defect should be acceptable on the SGS2 and if we are the minority that can see this issue, why havent I seen a single screen that has absolutely no yellow tinting out of the box, aside from video's and pictures from reviewers.

If its such a minority then articles like this should have never even been made on these sites

http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/30/is-your-galaxy-s-iis-display-yellow-on-the-left/

http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-screen-problems-trouble-in-paradise

http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20...2-s-ii-screen-problems-users-en-masse-report/

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...y_uneven_brightness_yellow_tint-news-2719.php

http://www.yugatech.com/blog/mobile/does-your-galaxy-s2-have-that-yellowish-tint-too/

No matter how hard you try to say that we are a minority, it does not change the way how I feel towards the phone, its a very great phone!

Since you've never had to deal with such issues on your phone then you would never understand no matter how and its also an expected reaction for people who cant see this on their phones to be bitter and even belittle others who find this as a big issue.

Again, let me remind you that that the yellow tint is a non issue for me already since KG2, I dont have any other screen issues left infact I can proudly say that I have the best screen on XDA to date, I havent seen screens that match the white levels I got ;)

EDIT:

I do need to point out though that the out of the box dead pixels, white blotches, suction cup marks , reddish screens are infact in the minority, the yellow tint on the other hand is visible on a good majority of phones as per Barry which I agree, but visibility of this issue is case to case basis.
[Galaxy S II General] kbiz90:
No, what I'm saying is the vast majority of people are happy with the screen. If you got a ****ty screen, do something about it. Get one you're happy with or get a different phone.

What is wrong with your display anyway?

Why don't you get order ten phones from Amazon, pick the best one, and return nine.

Just get happy.
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
I know what half centimeter is. I said white spot not a dead pixel!! how can u see white discoloration in white background? You have to view it with a plain dark color. That's why u can see it in status bar. Use your logic next time.

Great advice Mr. TROLL. Not everyone is lucky enough to win lotterry. just because your lucky doesn't mean I am too. My friend bought a phone from somewhere else and I compared it and hers was perdect in every aspect. So stop trolling and belive something called coincidence or whatever you call it.

Who views it from a different angle. I do. I don't measure the angle everytime I look at my phone. Especially when you are in bed u don't lift your hand to make it 90degrees. Sorry bro but knowing its a defective unit and some phones don't have, I can't accept that. Saying "law of averages" doesn't make you reputable.
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Thats the whole point, you automatically assumed that there is something wrong with my phone/screen, pin me down and have a bitter disposition towards me :p

My screen is close to perfection, no yellow tint, no banding, no vertical lines, no white blotches, no suction cup marks, no dead pixels, perfect whites, all this after going through several phones.

If amazon would deliver to my place w/o additional charges I would have placed an order for 30-50 phones and kept one :p
[Galaxy S II General] kbiz90:
So why aren't you on the subway right now on your way to that store to get a perfect one? Surprise your girlfriend. Tell her it's a date. :D
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
Huh I am sorry for being not as rich as you are. I can't throw away 700$ ( yeah its 700 with tax and activation fee, learn first) to thrash every new phone is released.

Actually i dont think most of the people in this forum as rich as you are. We are looking for the best "puurrffaact" phone that our money can buy. Yes we are that pathetich. How said is that to be a troll?
[Galaxy S II General] EarlZ:
Probably because its pretty hard to find one does not have a yellow tint on the left side nor a display that is red biased :p

Im glad I earn a days wage that can buy the phone ;)
[Galaxy S II General] kbiz90:
You're in the majority too! A near perfect screen! Nice. Yet, you're advocating on behalf of the unlucky souls that are unhappy with their display. Yeah, I want warfanax to be happy too since he really wants a SGS2.
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
Say whatever you want. It doesn't change the fact that I returned 5 phones. I just shared it with you.

If u look at my other threads you will see that I asked people about these purple tint issues. Many times. But didnt get the feedback that i wanted. So after changing 5 phones i got angry and started this thread just to let people know. Cuz I suffered from not finding any single "purple tint issue" in google and xda.
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
:-) the problem is that it is a small private own store. and it says inside the store "we don't refund only exchange" I can't take that risk man. The person who says this will not see the problem when I wanna change it and might say its perfect I can't change it. After 5 returns I can't take that chance anymore :-)
[Galaxy S II General] warfanax:
It means my statement is false :-P.most people in xda as rich as him :-)
[Galaxy S II General] RjYslf:
warfenax m8 just don't bother. there are so many defective units(if not all) that it's just annoying to keep proving your point to people who most likely don't even have the phone. as a sidenote the review phone gsmarena had was also yellow-"featured"