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[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I'm getting really sick of this now. I appreciate the 98% of people who understand that we have lives and other **** to do but I think I'm gonna call the next release viperROM Final and get an E4GT. I'm not kidding. If Vin wants to continue the ROM I will help out but I think I've had it. Too many entitled users in the E3D section. This isn't my final decision but I'm leaning toward this now.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
I'm looking at getting an ET4G either way because the 3D was lower than my expectations for an Evo sequel. But anyways, good luck.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jokerzwyld:
Viper, honestly man your work here with the E3D has been amazing. You said it yourself, 98% of the people understand, do not let the 2% that are also known as assholes to the rest of the world ruin a good thing for the majority. No matter what the subject is, you will NEVER please 100% of the people, but 98% is pretty damn close. Piss on the ones that whine and do not let them bother you.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I'm kinda with you. This is a good phone but not as amazing as I thought it would be.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Thanks man and you're right. If I could have both phones I would but I think I just wanna try something different.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
THIS.

/filler
[HTC EVO 3D] davec1234:
One word:

Cocknozzle
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Lolololololol
[HTC EVO 3D] Jokerzwyld:
I agree with you 100% there. If my wife would not file for divorce if I got another phone, I was thinking about the E4GT :) But after changing carriers to sprint and upgrading my phone 3 times in the last year... she would be out for blood if I changed phones again at full price >.>
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
My girl actually offered to buy me the E4GT lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Jokerzwyld:
Nice!! Go for it then!
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
YOU LUCKY BASTARD. Ask her to get me one too :)
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
what would you guys say would be the easiest way to get the E4GT? money wise. i mean i could sell the phone for maybe..600? i mean i have buy back on this phone through best buy but at best id get half back for it.

that screen is SO nice. dayum.

its just the thing is, the next nexus will be out by xmas and will most likely have the updated 4G through sprint and the updated processor so i think i could hold out. yeah?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Bandwagon jumpers! All of you!
[HTC EVO 3D] overclockxp:
Do you hear that Vin? They want to jump ship and leave you here to clean up the mess. Can you feel the love?

This ROM rocks. Be proud of your work.

Swyped from my Atari 2600 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Story of my life!
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
I agree with the other guy in saying that you shouldn't let these few ass clowns get to you. I know it's irritating but I think we have enough loyal users here to lay the appropriate smackdown when needed.

On a different note, if your considering getting a Samsung you should just wait until the next Nexus comes out, it will have the same specs if not slightly better than the E4GT and you get the first bite of the highly anticipated Ice Cream Sandwich. Plus the thought of no physical buttons intrigues me deeply lol.

Oh and on a side note, if your girl is willing to buy you a new phone knowing how much time you spend on it then she's definitely a keeper, put a ring on it quick ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
I think you deserve an appropriate smackdown... Now that damn song will be stuck in my head for the next 24 hours...
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I hope you guys don't give up on the 3d. I mean, given the circumstance, I don't blame you for wanting to, but I'm gonna be holding on to the 3d until next year, and I'd love to see continued support on it from you guys.

But this is your project, and you guys can do whatever you want with it. I understand if you have bigger and better things to work on, you shouldn't be held back by the inconsiderate people here.

But also, looking at this realisticly, there's gonna be a lot of people that like to upgrade phones every 6 months, and no matter where you go, people are gonna follow you, both good and bad.

Basically, i guess I'm trying to say don't give up for the reason of there being assholes. There will always be assholes. If we all gave up on stuff for that reason, we'd never even have made it past grade school. But at the same time, there's no point in getting stressed over bs, which I'm sure this thread has done plenty of.

So whatever you guys decide to do, I support and understand your decision... I'll just be a sad panda if I'll have to start looking for new e3d roms again. :(

Regardless, thanks for giving us the great rom that you have, and I appreciate all the hard work, effort and patience you two (viper and vinch) have put into this.

Just so you know, I starting posting in xda just to be a part of this thread and this community, even though I actually joined xda before the 3d. I don't know if that means anything to you guys or not, but if you need help with anything in the future, feel free to let me know. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
You can just follow me around in whatever I do duble! I'm going to be (working) on the 3d for a while.
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I will definitely do that! I plan on learning to make roms in the future myself (I know basic code, but I've still got a lot to learn), but I just haven't found the time to put in the dedication. I've been to involved in other projects, such as recording a album and working. but as soon as I'm done with this album, I'm gonna try the whole Dev scene, and see how long I can make it before getting pissed lol
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
Wont get passed boot

I searched a little before posting this and didn't come across anything. (maybe I fail at searching :C) however, after flashing to the stock kernal which I was instructed to do because I had tiamat for a different ROM I installed Viperrom. Now I get stuck for indefinitely on the boot screen. The animation goes for about a minute then stops and remains on that screen till I take out the battery. (not other ways to get it to restart) Does anyone have any idea on how to fix this? (I must have done something wrong since others have this working fine) Any help on the topic would be much appreciated, thank you all in advance! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
If you flashed a kernel, then a rom, you did it in the wrong order. You need to be sure you do a full wipe (data, dalvik, and cache) before flashing a new rom, and always do a dalvik and cache wipe before flashing a new kernel, or you'll experience issues such as boot loops.

What I would recommend doing is pull the battery, put it back in, hold vol down and press power, and boot into recovery. If you never did a full wipe, do it now, and reflash the rom. It comes with the stock kernel.

If you did a full wipe previously, then just wipe dalvik and cache, and try to reflash a stock kernel (2.3.3 base)

Hope this helps
[HTC EVO 3D] R32_Rocky:
FWIW, I have tried other phones, the original Samsung Galaxy S (from T-Mobile and at&t), the T-Mobile LG G2X (this was a nice phone, but T-Mobile's signal sucks, and later after the complete switch over to at&t, won't work on their 4g), Nexus 4G, and a few other non HTC phones. But I keep going back to HTC. Not only does HTC make the most solid feeling phones, but I just love SENSE! I love the integration, I love the clock & weather screen (yes, I bought Beautiful Widgets, but just not the same), I love the calendar, the many useful widgets, and most of all - I love the Sense email program. It almost feels like using Outlook on my computer! I have tried K-9, Mail Droid, and every other email program on the market, and not one satisfied me. They are about all the same, just a few minor differences. And as I use email the most, that is my #1 concern.

Now perhaps if Sense were to be ported over,........

So no matter how good the new Samsung or LG phone may be, I would rather wait for a new HTC phone. And think about this too, the old EVO 4G is STILL a phone mentioned almost everywhere yet today! It is still something used to benchmark other phones to. Samsung and LG phones come and go, then are forgotten. Samsung and LG phones only come up when there is a new one released, then quickly forgotten again.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
Tried both suggestions but still no luck, thank you some much for the quick response though!
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
What method are you rooted threw? Revolutionary or HTC?
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
HTC Dev I got MIUI to work fine before this, but, I didn't like that it was pretty much an iPhone styled ROM

After using HTC Dev I installed rev
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Are you s-off or s-on? If you rooted threw HTC, you most likely have bootloader 1.5 and s-on, which doesn't let you flash kernels easily. This means you're running a 2.3.4 kernel, and you're trying to install a 2.3.3 rom, which is gonna give you problems. You might have to stick with a 2.3.4 rom or do research on how to flash a kernel with HTC method.

This should help...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
Interesting, I'm not sure how I was able to flash tiamat kernal if that's the case, wonder if I'm stuck on that kernal now
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I edited my above post with HTC kernel flashing instructions. Hopefully that will lead you the right way. Just get a 2.3.3 kernel, flash it the way he describes, and see if that works. You might need to wipe and reflash Viperrom again after trying HTC method, but I'm unsure... I'm pretty sure just flashing a 2.3.3 kernel should fix it.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
and for my next super newbie questions, how can I know the kernal I have is 2.3.3 and if it isn't... where can I get that? Does the link that viper provide on page one lead to a 2.3.3? (that's the one I was using)
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Yeah, the kernel linked in the op is the stock 2.3.3 kernel that comes with Viperrom. That one should work fine. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Hey duble, I have a couple questions. I'm relatively new to flashing so it'd be nice to get some clarification on the process:

1. By full wipe, do you mean a factory reset in boot recovery?

2. And if I were to flash a new rom and a new kernel, would I have to wipe dalvik and cache again after flashing the new rom to have the new knernel?

Thanks in advance for the help :)
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
thanks, when you had originally mentioned that I may just have to stick with a 2.3.4 rom I ended up getting wtsb working, but, I'd be willing to give it a shot with viper, do you guys have any comparison of the two?
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
A full wipe is the factory reset, dalvik cache, and cache, all done from recovery.

Basically process is this...

Boot to recovery

Nandroid backup (optional)

Full wipe

Flash rom

Boot to android

Then add these steps for a custom kernel

Boot back into recovery

Wipe dalvik cache, wipe cache

Flash kernel

boot to system

Don't flash the rom and a custom kernel in the same session though. Let the system settle on each flash process before you start a new one.
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I haven't tried the rom you speak of. So far I've tested 3 different roms, 2 ver 2.3.3, and I'm trying out a 2.3.4 rom right now, but I'm probably gonna either go back to Viperrom 1.3, or keep testing other 2.3.4 roms until vipers update. I have a love hate relationship with the one I'm running now.... I've gotta admit, Viperrom is the stable fall back rom I go to, and when I root my friends 3d for them, it's the rom I give them, because I know they won't come back with issue's.

I mostly like testing kernels, and seeing their limits and stability, and that's one of the things buming me out about 2.3.4. There's not much for me to play with yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
Cool, wtsb is one you may want to try it's 2.3.4 and claims to be 100% who knows though haha
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Thanks for the help duble. I'll be sure to go back to this post from time to time again when I flash.
[HTC EVO 3D] davec1234:
I've been using asshat and assclown too much, had to fling a new one :)
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
Sort of off topic, but is anyone enjoying GOsms as much as I am right now? Haha I just decided to give this gem a shot. Its great!
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Oh yeah! I use go SMS, go contacts/dialer, go launcher and go keyboard. Love em all!
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
I gave go launcher a try but I'm just a fan of LPP+ I've been using it for so long. Everything works great for me :)
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I'm a sucker for the folder organization in the app drawer that go launcher gives you. I hate scrolling threw a giant list of apps lol

I also have the paid version of lpp, but I never use it. I originally purchased it for my og evo, which now also has go launcher.

I really like the theme options in go dialer/contacts, so that's why I use that one. Go keyboard, well, it's good if you get used to it. It has some annoyances, but I find my self able to type faster with it than stock. ::shrug::
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Finally got the laptop back. Time to start cooking up kernels.
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
Yeah I feel you. Its just hard for me to make the jump when I'm so used to lpp.plus I love smartkeyboardpro. Been using for almost 2 years!!
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
I've got a question actually. When I'm not using sense, but LPP I don't have the stock picture frame widget. I know in the past I've done this that widget was available. Any ideas?

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[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
That is a Sense only widget so if you use another launcher you cant use it. You may want to look in the market cause there are plenty in there that will work on any launcher.
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
since yesterday ive been getting a lot of random sense restarts.... never happened before but its happening every few hours...
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
What do you mean by sense restarts? Is something force closing? Is your phone locking up? I don't understand the description to your problem well enough to offer advice.
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
i guess you could call it a hot restart but it usually happens when i go to the home screen, sense restarts... its not a complete reboot
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
You could try wiping the cache and dalvik via recovery, or just clearing the cache from the "manage applications" list
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I'm kinda new-ish to viper rom. But I didn't bother searching if it's been asked, is this rom going to be updated? And if so, when? Btw, I donated
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
Yea I'm gonna do that if I can't figure out why it started doing that...

I think it might have to do with changing the gosms mode to normal... It has an option to keep it alive and I think it ****s with the task killer which might be causing sense to close and so when i go to the home.screen sense starts back up
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Task killer? Well there's your problem....
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Wanna play Rochambeau?

:P
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Oooo sounds exotic, I get to go first!
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
::shrugs:: if you insist! ::swift kick::
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
what i mean is the android built in killer, idk what its called but u get the point
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Usually the only thing you really want to be system persistent is whatever launcher you decide on using. I guess I could picture the os somehow thinking that since you chose go sms to be system persistent, that it might be thinking that it's your default launcher and then shutting down sense when it's in the background. But I don't really see this as being logical, only because your os should have a specific default set when it comes to the launcher, and home key, for example.

Idk, I use go SMS, system persistent is set to off, and I go between using normal mode and pro mode, and everything's worked fine. I would try to clear cache in settings/applications/manage applications/all/ then it's called sense launcher, or Rosie, or something of that sort. And I'd also reset your go SMS settings back to default and see if that helps too.
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
I went back to pro mode and haven't had the problem happen again...
[HTC EVO 3D] vulcZ:
Does the included WiFi Tether app throttle speeds? I get a good ~8mbps 4G connection at work, but my tethered devices (TouchPad, for example) can't get above ~800kbps. Kind of a problem when I'm trying to stream content from home :( (my home internet has a 40mbps upload so I doubt it's an upload problem).
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Have you tried downloading from sources other than your home? That should tell you right then if it's you home connection throttling your connection down, or if you phones throttling down the connection to your devices. 8megabits is roughly equivalent to about 800kilobytes, so that number seems correct.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Yeah, where's the update? I didn't donate but I deserve to get whatever I want whenever I want it. So give us the update. Now.
[HTC EVO 3D] vulcZ:
Yeah I've tried downloading apps from the webOS market and it's still about 800kbps. Also, notice I said 800kbps, not KBps, so I'm referring to kilobits per second, not kilobytes per second :) Gonna try a different tethering app just in case. Any recommendations?
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
You'd be surprised how many people I talk to that don't know the difference between the two lol.

I haven't really tethered much lately, so I'm not sure what's working better than what right now. When I do need to tether, I used to use Wi-Fi tether beta 3, and now I'm using beta 6, but haven't tested it yet. I usually test my 4g and tethering at a buddies house that actually has Wimax, but I haven't been there in a while to test speeds. I'll see if I can get some 4g coverage today and let you know what I find out.
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
hey doc - it hurts when i raise my arm...

doc: don't raise your arm

i was going to say wipe cache and dalvik cache

and if it continues, install system panel app

end all tasks - cleans out everything

then see how it goes from there...
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
OK guys, I have been slacking on this update for far too long. After having a chat with a fellow dev, I have something big planned for the next update. When I get home from work tonight, this is going to be priority 1 and I'm going to start testing out the next build. More details on surprises later, but let's just say battery life sucks on this ROM compared to what is coming and you'll be able to use vC to control some cool things :D
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
V whats up man....well my new shiny toy was short lived LOL>....took an even trade for another EVO from sprint....lost the money i paid for the EPIC but ohh well....didnt end up liking it lik i thought i did,,,,,anyway thats awesome news man....look forward to it
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
You should have told me! I'm looking to buy one!
[HTC EVO 3D] Gellenole:
Sweet deal, saddly i don't speak much in forums... I did troll around a bit and found your rom to be the best, glad you're improving on the rom for battery life.

another question is about MMS, I somehow cannot send MMS for the life of me. I've read around the posts in this thread and there was only something about 5mb. Each time I attempt to send any MMS it fails. do you have any updates that will fix this?

1.3 viper rom

silverneedle 1.0 kernel (don't know if this is the main problem)

(sprint provider)
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
You can't even send one to yourself? What happens if you try changing the size of the MMS in Settings?
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Are you on Wi-Fi? We discovered earlier that for some reason there were mms issues with silverneedle kernels, specifically when connected to Wi-Fi.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrlakadaddy:
Good things come to those who wait, looking forward to your new work Viper and Vin, refuse to flash another ROM, yours is awesome....thanks for sharing.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
As for the MMS, I can send em just fine on this ROM but not on WiFi. Have never been able too. Even on my Hero when it was stock and unrooted. Its not a rom issue as I dont think sprint will allow sending MMS over WiFi. I could be wrong though but on both my Hero and now my E3D I can not send MMS over WiFi. I have to disable it then send my message. Annoying? It can be at times.
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Are you using a custom kernel? The only kernels that let me send mms while connected to Wi-Fi were the stock kernel and showdown 2. There could be others that will, but I know those two for sure work. Silverneedle kernels break this.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
I am using the stock kernel that is in this ROM. I tried once and it was not sending so thats the last time I tried sending while on WiFi. My Hero both stock and with custom roms/kernels I could never send MMS over WiFi.
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
Happy Happy, Joy Joy!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Yay!!! I can't wait! I love your ROMs! Let me know if you need a beta tester!
[HTC EVO 3D] cuban4lf:
is this rom 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 based ??
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
2.3.3

2.3.4 is on the way
[HTC EVO 3D] ScottSNX:
That's what everyone's been trying to tell you!

:D
[HTC EVO 3D] mozman:
Awesome! Looking forward to it. I know it will be quality work!
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I'm just gonna leave this right here...

Here is a preview of what's coming. Take a look at the kernel name :D This is going to make it into viperROM RC2, the custom kernel (thanks SO much, Cayniarb!!!) and the viperMOD Voltage Control script (til the app is done). That kernel is undervolted by 100mv and running very very well! Good things are coming :)
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Thanks for the tease :P
[HTC EVO 3D] Gellenole:
Nope I cannot send one to myself, it keeps saying a message like "cannot send after multiple attempts"

nope not on wifi, even if I have wifi at home, I use the sprint wireless service.

is there any information you need from the phone in order to make it work?

I know most of the MMS settings

name: production

mms destination: http://mms.sprintpcs.com

port 80

my PRL version is 11115
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
sweet Jesus I'm gonna cum early looking at that teaser
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
LOL, glad you guys like. It's Tiamat 1.0.2, but with some config changes so that it works with Sense. Good stuff for sure!!

Sorry man, I am not having this problem. I think you're the only one that I've seen. I'm not sure what to tell you man.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
so excited for the update!!!!!! i'm currently on miui and its amazing...but theres no way its better than viper rom! thanks for the hard work viperboy!
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Try changing your prl. I'm running 21081. Most Evo3D are running prl 21081 without issues. I'm also running radio 530 as well
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Your viper control daemon is definitely the selling point of your rom (for me anyways). I can't wait for the new version to see what all you gave us to tweak with! I look forward to what all is coming!

Thanks again viper!
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
Definitely excited for this coming update. Here's just my set up for ****s and gigs. Using launcher pro with themed icons from the market and beautiful Widgets.

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[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
Hey viper do you intend on getting the beats audio implemented? Not sure how it works. Anyone else try it?

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