yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] AndroidAutobot:
Sweet. Frickin awesome to hear =) Now I just need to find me that cable I have laying around here somewhere ha ha.

Just tested YongZH's SNESoid via tv out. Using Super Metroid. Ran fantastic =) I can not WAIT to get an AOSP ROM built from source so I can use my wii remote+classic controller in conjunction with the TV out functionality. SO much win! =)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jonathan3579:
The only real issue is it doesn't and probably won't ever look as clean as through an HDMI port. Has anyone attempted to try via MHL adapter yet?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] AndroidAutobot:
I personally haven't, but I've read others reporting that the cables haven't worked.

I myself somewhat prefer the RCA cables. It's not as crisp, but it IS more universal. Can just take the cables with me and always be able to link into whatever tv might be around.

I just hope that if we're blessed w/ a CM build, they'll keep this TV out function intact on their custom ROM.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
I prefer the RCA cables as well.

I have a tiny little micro-camera case, looks like a mini backpack. In it fits the RCA cables, the phones usb cable (without the power adapter) and a set of headphones. Still has room for my bluetooth headset, a couple of microSD cards, a usb adapter, and a USB flash drive.

With the MHL setup, i'd need a bigger case, and this one is tiny and fits in any pocket I want it to.

I have also read somewhere, pretty sure it's in here, that MHL didn't work.

I've started gaming on the device a whole lot more, now that I plug into larger monitors everywhere I go.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] AndroidAutobot:
That's what I'm talkin about =) Now, although it'll be a lil bit, if we can't just get us an AOSP build from source so we can use wii remote connectivity with our gaming to boot ha ha.

Oops. Not used to the thanks function of the boards being here yet lol. Accidentally thanked ya the first time I intended to hit "quote" lol. why not right? =)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] jonathan3579:
Well when you put it that way, I withdraw my statement. Lol. I wasn't really thinking of the versatility that we have with the current setup. Now is everyone using this on standard definition or high definition tv's? I wonder if the lower resolution would help the picture at all...either that or make me feel better mentally. Lol
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] AndroidAutobot:
Mine's an old school 36" monster lol. It looks great on my TV, but that could very well be a much different case when the signal is put through a TV that supports a much clearer picture. My eyes aren't as fine tuned to such, since I have yet to own a flatscreen lol.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] RazoE:
Yeah, the resolution on my monitor or even TV is different than my phone, so the image is super blurry...

Plus I bearly touch the cable it it seems like it's disconnecting, so it's hardly usable for playing games. Movies would be another thing
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yellowjacket1981:
I am using a tiny tv that was in my cousins garage for years...definitely not Hd or anything, but it looks great, I cant complain
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] reukiodo:
Does anyone have a link to someone that has posted feedback of actually trying this?

I have read numerous 'I've read someone tried this and it didn't work' posts, but found no reference of someone actually trying it themselves.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Droidmoder:
It works great. I myself play order and chaos and watch netflix all the time. When gaming it feels just like a controller. Infact to my knowledge some bluetooth controllers work.

Graphics are like a ps2 if not better.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Litesorrows:
There's an app that allows you to connect a PS3 controller to your phone via bluetooth. Its called 6 axis. Its 1.69 USD. But if you download there aplication for the PC/Mac/Linux. You can change the bluetooth adress to yours, then not have to have the app. :D little secret.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Litesorrows:
Dude I know! The N64oid on the Duel Core, on my TV its epic. Playing Zelda MM with the HD texture pacs. Its amazing! I prefear the PS3, but I got a Wiimote. Gonna try it.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
I bought the sixaxis app, and have a sixaxis controller, but the free sixaxis test app says it won't work for our device.

Are you telling me that you have a sixaxis controller working on the doubleshot?

I read someone posting that they couldn't get one to work, and I haven't looked further into it because it was cited as a kernel limitation that prevented it from working.

I don't have time to charge the controller and test it now, but I am eager to hear what your answer is.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cj chitwood:
Thanks so much for posting this. I was able to juryrig a cable together using your diagram. Works great. It's definitely SD though, so anyone else trying it, don't expect great gains. Next I'll be researching that MHL or HML or whatever it is you can get from the USB port... See if we even have that or if it's just bad documentation...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
im using bulletproof 1.1 and when I connect a 4 pole to my tv all I get is horrible noise and no image to the tv ... any ideas?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] tbalden:
faulty cable or wrong plug order. Also first connect to TV, then to your phone.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yellowjacket1981:
Also not all plugs will work even though they look the same. Get one that works for a Zune, or an old classic iPod. I got mine on Amazon for 40 cents
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
i got the 4 pole I got off amazon for .10

this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007V6JCK/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cj chitwood:
I made mine from an old set of cellphone earbuds (for the 4-pole 3.5mm male connector), a spare unused yellow RCA cable (3 feet, 1.5 feet when cut, soldered to where the "microphone" wires are), a 3.5mm-stereo-male-to-dual-RCA-female adapter (so I don't have to cut more cables/I can reuse them later for other stuff), and a pair of regular red/white stereo RCA patch cables. Oh, and one really long stereo headphone extension cord I made a long time ago to use as an audio component patch cable -- I know not the best but it did what I needed when I needed it to. I just needed the female end, so I cut it off. I now have a really long male end that I need something to do with. Like, several feet long.

Nah, that doesn't sound creepy at all.

I realize it's ghetto geek and not quite chic, but I happened to have these parts just laying around not doing anything. Cost me nothing but time, a nicked finger, some solder, and a foot or two of Tartan 1710. Plus, I get the benefit of ruining only one RCA cable, and putting to use at least part of some things I was no longer using. In fact, I just realized what I'm going to use that really long male end for. I've got a pair of voice coil headphone speakers that I pulled out of a set of phones a long time ago (they were busted, but the speakers still worked). I'm going to hotglue them into a set of hearing protectors ($7) I have after soldering them to the wires in this cable, to make some very nice sound-deadening headphones.

Dude, score.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
Heres a demo with my new Adapter . the 2nd one i bought works Dynex " mini phone " 3.5mm to RCA

[YOUTUBE]gdKiXq5MtpM&[/YOUTUBE]
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
BUMP

I tried the sixaxis app and it couldnt config bluetooth .... so i guess maybe litesorrows was maybe referring to a different device?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cj chitwood:
The "video out" pin of the phone-end 3.5mm plug is tied to the shell/ring conductor of all three RCA cords. Obviously that cable was meant for another device's pinout.

Looks like it has at least passive electronics in that rectangle box. Too much attenuation maybe?

Obviously there's a de facto standard emerging. It's like "Sound Blaster compatible". It works to the benefit of manufacturers to sell more product if they all fit the largest number of devices possible, and that means standards emerge. Those that have colors swapped or whatever obviously are just not to that standard.

That's because color means as much in a cable as a label on a door saying whether the bathroom is for men or women. When you need to puke and the door's unlocked, do you really care? What really matters is the placement of the conductors on the plug and which ones are tied together for "ground".

I'm surprised make/model of device the cable was made for makes any difference on the picture quality. Are you sure it's not just the fact that that's the newest cable you have and it hasn't built up any oxidation on it yet? Or is it the newest, even? Are they all the same diameter exactly? Do they all fit equally as snugly?

I suspect the one 3-prong cable that actually worked probably has a longer tip conductor or middle conductor than the others, with the "shell" being no longer than the "shell" conductor of the other working plugs. I could be wrong. Could you post a pic of this one's plug?

On my TV, in portrait mode it fits the height of the TV with correct aspect ratio for the device (e.g., no stretch-to-fit of the picture to the TV screen) and in landscape it fills the entire 16x9 screen. 4x3 would be *very* noticeably stretched in portrait mode. If it's really 4x3 I'd say there's a setting wrong somewhere (or the TV just isn't made to handle the signal?).

Wow... and people say *I* write books! ;) but good on you for providing a lot of thorough information.

THIS IS THE CORRECT PINOUT but of course when buying cables online or at the store you can't always ring out the conductors to find out what's where so good on all who are posting exact make/model and links to eBay and such... [edit] And also a male plug on the end will work better than the female, since most (all?) TV RCA inputs are female...[/edit]
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
I bought this dynex mini phone a/v 4 pole http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dynex-RCA-M...er_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4cfd56c250

works great
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Thx, I don't doubt it works, and it actually proves my "theory" that any "standard" 4-pronged 3.5mm to 3xRCA cable should work.

But, IMO, this particular seller is not an option for anyone outside continental USA (whopping $26 USD shipping to Canada!)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] yellowjacket1981:
I posted this a while ago in this thread, but these are the ones that I bought, and they work great. Watch the price though, because it should go down. When I bought them, it was less than $3 with shipping and everything.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000STBSU4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cj chitwood:
@MT4GS

Agreed on all points.

I'm surprised, however, that the three-conductor plug worked... it appears to be the same form factor/dimensions-per-conductor as a standard audio connector. I'm surprised the phone would detect that as a TV output... that implies to me that the phone does more than simple pin checks and maybe is actually sending a test signal / looking for a reply on the TV out pin... Got an O-scope? :D
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Blue6IX:
Then how do you explain the headphones mode coming up when I insert a plastic insert, like the little peg off the back of a stylus made for that hole?

The plastic peg is non-conductive, so why would it trigger the device into thinking headphones were inserted?

Just some food for thought... :p
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Some_dude36:
No actually I bought the el cheapo off amazon and it didnt work. I compared the 2 when I got the dynex and the lengths between poles are actually different On the " mini phone " 3.5 as opposed to the reg 3.5 4 pole. The amazon 4 dollar one was for a Cam corder 3.5mm out
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
Exactly. I think the size of the rings (poles) and size of the plastic spacers between them is the key. I would think it should have been standardized by now since those 3.5mm plugs are out there for at least 2 decades (if not longer), but then you never know - there are companies/manufacturers who always change small things (like distance between rings on the pole) just to make competitor's products incompatible with theirs and force customers to buy only their own (usually overpriced) cables and such.

What I mean is described and explained in just one ugly word: "proprietary"...
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] cj chitwood:
Well, for that, the spring contacts inside the jack also have a little contact that is broken when something is inserted. This causes speaker audio to stop on a radio when headphones are inserted, and is certainly what the phone detects that causes the headphone mode to actuate. [Edit: I've actually had these connectors apart -- you can get them at Radio Shack still, I think, or Mouser.com and Digikey.com and the like may even have a diagram of them. If I had a photo, I'd post it. Anywho, there's an extra little contact, and while the plug is empty, audio signal travels through the extra contact. In old analog setups, this extra contact went straight to speakers, so inserting anything pushed the spring and opened the contact, shutting off the speakers. I assume the digital variety is no different, except that contact also traces to something that detects the signal and when opened puts the phone's output to the jack instead of the earhole.]

The question comes, however, in that you have only 4 contacts. One for common ground, one for audio left, one for audio right... now, add both TV-out as well as microphone-in (for headphones with mic) on that fourth contact, and then how does the phone know the difference between whether there's a mic installed or a TV?

Since the tv-out is analog, I wouldn't expect there to be any kind of signal coming FROM THE TV to indicate TO THE PHONE that it's a TV. Likewise, a microphone on that pin doesn't have any signal... so apparently the phone detects the contact is made and then applies like a test voltage to see if any voltage/signal out on the fourth pin is returned as would be done by either a mic or a TV and the phone decides based on the return?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
I too came to the same conclusion & agree with on this.

Certainly there must be some simple additional "contact" inside the phone's jack to detect when something is plugged-in, exactly as cj chitwood explained, but there has to be more to it too as he suggested earlier, because the phone's circuitry has to distinguish between microphone and tv on the 4th connector when they are plugged in - and I assume it is the same one (4th) for both mic and tv, whereas the 1st/2nd/3rd connectors are for L/R audio positive (+) and common ground (-).

There has to be some kind of additional detection done by phone's hardware (or hardware and software most likely) that distinguishes between detected (and being used) plug's rings when plug is inserted, because it not only knows when a standard headphones plug (3-ring, without mic) is plugged

and when you listen to music it turns-off the internal speaker yet keeps the internal mic turned-on when call is recieved

while it does turn off the internal mic when the 4-ring plug (headphones with mic) are plugged-in. If it was a "dumb" connector, connecting any headphones (with and without mic) would always turn off the internal mic (as it happens in some other phones I had in the past),

which clearly isn't the case here

Wow, another "book", sorry ;)

(edit: cut as much as I could just to keep it to the point)
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Protricity:
fyi the current Cyanogenmod 9 alpha 3 rom in the dev section now supports both SixAxis Bluestack and TV Out (With the bruteforce tv out mod)

For the first time, we can now use the Doubleshot with tv out and wireless ps3 (ds3) controllers at the same time.

Note: The audio is not being sent to the tv yet. dbaldin says he will work on this next.

Also the phone (or bruteforce method) is causing a lot of slowdown and lag, so its still not an ideal solution.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] MT4GS:
/edit - nevermind, I found all info
[HTC EVO 3D] Apeleon:
Alright everyone,for those of you having issues to revolution on your Evo 3d and flooding the irc I figured id start this to compile everything.

Things I have noticed.

1. yes after the install your device to attempt a hands free activation,don't freak when is say checking for firmware update,it wont find anything!

2. You may have to do a battery pull after the initial flash/install. On Mine,the recovery did not install! Problem will be worked out im sure,this is a beta AND teamwin has their own recovery going on as well.

[ I have found the reason why the recovery is not installed is simply because clockwork is not support on the shooter yet.Do install a recovery use team wins recovery image and directions which can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192077

Here is a simplistic break down on how to do this,I am not responsible for your actions!

Download the .img file found in the thread,make sure you also download the fastboot.exe and place it in the same folder as ADB for easy access. Once that is done,reboot while holding down your power + volume down button!

Fastboot menu will come up,the command you need it

fastboot flash recovery (location of file).img

For me it was fastboot flash recovery C:\Downloads\durka.img yes I renamed it durka because I dont like long names]

3. If you are having issues getting your serial number,connect it to ADB and do adb get-serialno

4. If you cannot get root,you will have to download busybox by stericson on the market. I had to manually sign into my gmail accounts so remember your passes!

[This is wrong,if you do not have root you need to have the teamwin recovery installed and you need to flash the superuser.zip file found on the forums. If you are having issues installing,make sure signature verification is unchecked,then once reboot install busybox]

All apps that I have that require root are working for me, just waiting on a deodexed rom. Even SetCPU is working,but I dont have the custom kernel installed,which could actually be easily doable now!

And I leave the thread to y'all
[HTC EVO 3D] Bentenrai:
Well, I can probably help troubleshoot. Rooted and installed teamwin recovery first try. Doing a nandroid backup now.
[HTC EVO 3D] rtbluver:
I can also help people troubleshoot, I am also rooted and have teamwin recovery going!
[HTC EVO 3D] alnzbail:
N e 1 kno how to do this with a mac?

D3VO
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigirish:
Rooted and recoveried on first try. Doing my compressed NAND backup now. (I like the fact that it can be compressed...but it's slow as hell lol)

Yeah, I was a tad concerned at first about the hands-free activation notice, but everything was smooth like buttah... Thank god I remembered my passwords!
[HTC EVO 3D] tek818:
My issues:

First try: I got all the way to the part where the phone is taken to hboot and fastboot usb is selected. I was getting a red X for the driver not being installed bc I didn't have HTC Sync installed, so I cancelled revolutionary, rebooted my phone, installed htc sync on my pc, and tried again...

Now, after rebooting both my phone and the pc, I can't get past the initial "Acquiring Root" step.

help...
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
Successfully gained S-OFF but when I select recovery from HBOOT it sends me to htc screen. Power button then reboots phone.

tia :)
[HTC EVO 3D] irock1985:
A few of us are stuck on --- Acquirig root ( method 3) -- Any ideas???
[HTC EVO 3D] miguelfp1:
only issue I've found is that Titanium Backup refuses to work on my phone.

yes, I flashed the SU package found here, and also tried the Busybox installer from the market.

besides that, everything's working great, already nandroided my stock setup and my WiMax partition while waiting for the ROMs to drop!
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
hey guys.....im trying to fastboot thye recovery img but cant quite to get it goiung.....do the recovery img and fastboot.exe have to be placed int he same folder?....or where exactly do i put them?.....thanks fellas
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
HTC Sync should not be installed. Install the HTC Fastboot drivers from the revolutionary wiki
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Yes, Fastboot, recovery and AdbWinUsbApi.dll must all be in the same folder
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
TB works great for me. Are you sure that the su installed? is it in your app drawer? If not download it from the market and try installing that.
[HTC EVO 3D] miguelfp1:
yeah, flashed it twice. other root programs work (including the Busybox installer), which stumps me... TB even worked flawlessly with the temp-root before
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Did you try uninstalling then reinstalling TB?
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
mines set like that but i get

C:\sdk\tools>fastboot flash_image recovery C:\Users\Tesso\Desktop\recovery-twrp-
shooter-1.img
usage: fastboot [ <option> ] <command>
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
In the new sdk adb is in platform-tools folder, so here's what I did. I moved fastboot and twrp recovery to platform-tools folder, renamed the recovery image to recovery.img and pressed shift while right clicking on the platform-tools folder and choose open command prompt(or window) here. Then just type flasboot flash recovery recovery.img and press enter. Worked for me.

I see what you did...you have to type "fastboot flash recovery nameofrecoveryhere.img" and it will work. Make sure the recovery image is in the same folder as fastboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] miguelfp1:
no go either :(, I'll keep trying

thanks for your help!
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Did you unroot the temp root before installing Revolutionary? This might be the cause because attn1 from AlphaRev told me to unroot and factory reset to get rid of all the temp root stuff before running Revolutionary.
[HTC EVO 3D] aznmode:
I'm stuck here also..
[HTC EVO 3D] irock1985:
Root method 3 is about to have me toss my pc across the room... I'm trying everything I can think of... next try is uninstalling drivers again and a fresh download.... maybe my download was bad
[HTC EVO 3D] random1204:
I don't know what happened, but after everything, I now cant send or receive texts at all. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Clay333:
I also had that happen but after I uninstalled htc sync(instead of just stopping) , and rebooted both phone and pc it went fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mexiking10:
This happened to me, too. I also couldn't place calls. Just try to make a call, and if you have the same problem as me, just stay on the line and you'll be connected to Sprint CS who will fix the problem.
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
Good god you saved my arse, thanks for your post! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
Now in twrp recovery when I try to flash su-2.3.6.3 I receive this message:

E:Error in /tmp/sideload/package.zip (status0)

Any ideas?

*edit* re-flashing did the trick :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Apeleon:
Going to edit the original post to reflect some discoveries,hopefully I will answer some of your alls questions there
[HTC EVO 3D] unknown1205:
download and flash this instead.

http://techerrata.com/toastcfh/Shooter/su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip
[HTC EVO 3D] Apeleon:
Do not use HTC Sync! It will cause communication issue during fastboot/adb. Use these instead

http://downloads.unrevoked.com/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe for ADB/Root Tool

http://developer.htc.com/adp.html#s2 for fastboot program
[HTC EVO 3D] Apeleon:
This is because the tool doesnt actually install a recovery, the only one support it teamwins recovery and you have to manually install that with the fastboot.exe
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Yeah, this is why I'm going to wait for a bit.
[HTC EVO 3D] Apeleon:
With a mac,you could try using wine,but it would be sketchy and unsafe,id say bootcamp windows or get a ubuntu/linux livecd
[HTC EVO 3D] Apeleon:
This seems to be a consistent issue,probably a bug,please contact teamwin on irc or forums, but it seems if you just reflash it will work, most likely related to the method needed to write to eMMC
[HTC EVO 3D] MedicWill:
I cannot use my phone or text since doing Revolution update
[HTC EVO 3D] lloydcabraham:
I was having that problem until I uninstalled HTC Sync and EasyTether (I had forgotten that I installed for USB tether). Worked fine after.