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[Nexus S General] Award Tour:
Well, what's so unfair/unjust about it?

Cellular data is finite, and significantly more than water. Sprint's network is ABSOLUTE **** right now and very likely due to over capacity. It's not only dead last in comparison to other networks but it's 3G is approaching unusable levels. Sprint has to set boundaries to keep the service afloat. Every carrier has to. If every single person was allowed to tether unlimited devices and replace their home internet with cellular data, then we'd all be back to 28k internet, if that.

That's the problem with unlimited data. When given that way, you're likely to bring down the network under your view. Now if we're talking capped data, then I 100% agree with you. Networks realize that data is a finite resource and weigh how big of a hit they could take from individual users. If they decide that 2 or 5 GBs per user is a reasonable hit their network could take, then I think you have a sound argument to be able to use your allocation anyway you want to. But under Sprint's (or even T-Mo's) unlimited data network? Nah. You need some form of control.

Anyway, cellular data isn't a necessity and in a lot of ways it's a luxury. You can purchase home broadband and hook up as many devices as you want. If anything cellar data is more like bottled water, a luxury variant. But that's besides the point.

PS: I'd also like to thank all you cheap *****es for taking my 1.5+ Mbps Sprint EVDO and

helping

to turn it into an almost unusable piece of ****.
[Nexus S General] The111:
It's not unlimited though. There are portions of the contract that explain that.

1) If I tether every day but my monthly usage is only 1GB or so, I'll never hear a word out of Sprint.

2) If I try to download 250GB per month through my phone only (no tethering), you can bet I'll hear from Sprint.

That right there shows they don't give a damn about tethering, only raw data use. Which is what they should be charging for. If they make an "unlimited plan" which isn't really unlimited, then all the grey area in the middle is their fault, and making up rules to try to solidify that grey area really doesn't help.
[Nexus S General] seezar:
There is a flaw in your water analogy in that there is a cost for a specified amount of water as you just gave it. Sprint offers "unlimited" data but they stipulate that it is to use on one's phone because they need to control it in some way (yes there is the whole issue of companies advertising unlimited when it isn't). In your scenario, it would be more equivalent if they did tiered pricing like Verizon is beginning to do. Then one could say you are paying X amount for X amount of bandwidth and why should one not use it how they want.

Regardless, there are ways around it with Android so one can pretty much tether for free anyway. So if one is really against paying for it they can get around it.
[Nexus S General] Award Tour:
Here's a little experiment:

Use your phone for an hour. Monitor data usage. Use your computer for an hour. Monitor data usage. Check which is higher.

The regular use case between the two is still widely different. Sprint and every carrier knows this. Your two examples are possible but are more exception than rule. For example, in 2011, the average monthly data usage for smartphone users was under 500 MBs. I regularly go over that in a few hours on my laptop. It's all about averages, statistics and expectations.

Edit: Also as another added point, how many people disable background data and/or don't use data on their phone at all when tethering? Probably no one, so you're essentially at the very least using two devices sucking up data at it's regular pace (phone) and at a much more accelerated rate (desktop/laptop/tablet).
[Nexus S General] derekwilkinson:
christ, calm down.
[Nexus S General] DirtyShroomz:
Did... Did I just read what I think I read from you?
[Nexus S General] Award Tour:
...and what is that?
[Nexus S General] DirtyShroomz:
Siding with a carrier
[Nexus S General] Quis89:
Lmao @ this thread. Are we serious?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] goldeman:
ive been using GO SMS for quite some time, but the last couple of updates ive noticed the app using ALOT of RAM. ranging from 50mb to 250mb(monitored this using system panel app) in turn causing my phone to freeze and requiring either a hard reset or battery pull? anyone else experiencing problems with this app. i love the app and im sure its a simple bug fix, but just wanted to know if anyone else had similar problems

also i did try running go in 'lite-mode' and still it ate up a lot of ram
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TeldenW:
Hey Goldenman,

I'm using GoSMS and GoLauncher. I've not had any freezing.

I haven't really been paying attention to the Ram that the progrms are taking.

I need to keep an eye on that. I will say this; after the GB update, I don't have the free RAM that I thought I would.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] 96traxx:
I use GO SMS & the Go Launcher too, & i have noticed it using more memory, but mine hasn't peaked that much, hopefully they will address it cause they're good about weekly updates.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] TheBigSaxon:
I'm using Go launcher and Go SMS with no issues. My current memory with go SMS is 2.5 Meg.

Are you up to date? They released like 4 or 5 minor updates in the last 2 weeks or so irc. Go and gb have been sweet as on my phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] goldeman:
i uninstalled it this morning to see if maybe it was just me, but ill reinstall and run it for the better part of the day and see how it goes. go makes great products i would hate to stop using them ... i also use go contacts and no problems with that. i used to use go launcher but i dont find it as snappy as launcher pro ill report back
[T-Mobile LG G2x] goldeman:
after a day of use with the new update i still find the ram use of go sms to be pretty high (75mb-100mb) ... granted i send/recieve on average 150-250 texts a day ( i get a lot of notifications from espn, twitter, etc) i still dont think the RAM use should be that high? any ideas? they said the bug was fixed but im still experiencing high ram use?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kirashi:
Go SMS Freezing Phone

I'm having the same issue where my phone freezes up and needs the battery pulled and/or a cache reset to get back up and running. My GoSMS has over 1600 messages in it, which I assume should not be a problem because there are a lot of people who like to store their old messages. What can we do to fix it?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] buru898:
Do you guys regularly close the program (long press back key)?

I find Google voice begins to lag a bit and eat ram if you text a lot, but just simply force closing it yourself seems to "reset" the ram it's using.

I don't use go SMS, just thinking maybe it relates to how it happens with Google voice.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
This is most likely the problem because the app will cache all your texts you've looked at when open. It so you can scroll through them easier. So if you text or get 100+ texts in a day it's bound to flood your ram. If you close the app fully then it will clear the cache and the next time you load it up you will have to have the app load them manually in order to see older texts.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] zoppp:
Don't use it, I believe it's a security risk

Sent from my G2X
[T-Mobile LG G2x] desiredbard:
Well that is a very helpful contribution....

Although i do notice that after the last update the program keeps running in the backgoundand has to be knocked off by task manager.

I read some sources that handcent has become bloatwarish... and i do not like setting up an account with them..... I a can do without anotheronline presence...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
It's because the app stores your conversations in memory so when you go to read them it won't take any time to load. The more texts you make in a day the more it has to load. To counter this you can kill the app in the middle of the day and don't try to load older parts of the conversation. Also deleting texts every once in awhile helps
[T-Mobile LG G2x] theking_13:
I think they're right, about it keeping old messages in memory so you can access them faster.

I have around 4k total messages, and GOSMS never uses more than 25 mbs, usually uses around 21. Running it normally with ICS theme and my own backgrounds, if that helps any on the usage.

Sent from my amazing G2X running Bionic Reloaded v1.2.1
[T-Mobile LG G2x] I.R.Chevy:
Go sms shouldnt be doing that. Save your "user defined" settings for your themes and just uninstall it completley and reinstall then restore your theme settings and you should be fine... I was using the go chat and go fb apps back in the day but i found them to be a huge battery hog..

I also only run go sms on normal mode without go chat...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] regP:
I used GO SMS for a long time until it did the same thing for me and started eating an abnormal amount of RAM. Was never able to figure out why.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] IRASadPanda:
Are you being sarcastic? GO apps are actually a big security risk.

---------- Post added at 10:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 PM ----------

It is! They take your IMEI.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] theking_13:
Don't all SMS replacement apps do this? Do all GO apps do this, such as Contacts & Launcher?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gocny:
Hi all, newbie to android. Got a Galaxy SII and everything worked ok including WIFI, found the wifi instantly and connected to it instantly...until...i insert the sim card.

My modem is Billion 7800N, works great with my computer and the new phone before i insert the sim card.

[Update:] Changed the modem to my old Netgear DG834G. Same thing.

after i insert the sim card, 3G works but my network just became "Not in range". i can still see other networks from my neighbours.

restart, same.

shut down and take the sim card out, start, still Not in range.

Reset and wipe everything, without sim card, it found the network and connected and worked great again.

Insert the sim card again and my network not in range again........

Anyone came across this? my guess would be it's the modem but without the sim card everything is fine. but with the sim card i can only see other people's network but not mine...

Any idea?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
No, I can access WiFi very well with SIM card inserted, same router as yours. And I don't think a SIM card has anything to do with WiFi.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gocny:
Thanks ithehappy, glad to know someone using the same modem with no issue. Do you mind letting me know your wireless settings for the modem please?

thanks heaps
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gocny:
update:

change the wireless password setting to WEP2 AES and all good now...

thanks
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
Glad to hear that, though mine works without security.

Regards.
[General Questions and Answers] doublehp:
Worst question ever: How to get my HTC Sensation print ?

Sensation is wonfigured for Wifi. Auto-discover did not find my printer.

I have a Dell 3100cn on ethernet network.

When I configure Sensation to use HP Laserjet, I get B&W page (with correct layout text and images, but color is missing); when I use HP postscript, I get a black stripe on left side. With Epson WorkForce 635, I get 12 pages (i stopped it) with garbage.

Not sure if the issue should be adressed to HTC, or to Dell ...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickytenzer:
Title says it all. CPU Spy revealed that (since last flash on Monday night) I had 12 seconds of deep sleep.

Can anyone guide me on how to find the culprit?

Running unofficial KG3 with CF KG3.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickytenzer:
Bump. Someone must know.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tshoulihane:
try reading a few of the other threads about battery drain. Plenty of info already exists. If you have a more specific question, you're more likely to get some helpful answers.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickytenzer:
How much more specific can I get? My phone never goes into deep sleep. I just wanna know if this is a stock issue or if it's due to an app.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sp1tfire:
Of course it is because of an app. Check which up has been running continuously.

Sent from out of space using Thuraya 2 satellite !
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
Download Better Battery Stats, see under Wakelocks what's going on for max time. And also do post your Battery Usage graph.

Regards.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
OK, I am not an expert but still saying,

Your graph is quite well and normal I think. Look at the Awake and Screen On bar, they are more or less synchronized. And look at the Wakelock stats, it's clear that you have GPS On for 24 mins, Latitude for 2 mins, now GPS hogs battery, it's clear. So by that point I think you are fine ;)

Wanna know more, post the graphs in Better Battery Stats thread.

Regards.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickytenzer:
Thanks for the reply but the issue is that my phone is NEVER going into deep sleep. That shouldn't happen.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
Well I don't believe that CPU Spy stuff mate. If it's not in Deep Sleep then it should be Awake, but there is Black Awake spaces there, so that means your phone does enter Deep Sleep mode, or whatever it is called.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sp1tfire:
Your phone is fine, if there was a problem your awake bar should have been full blue, that's when the phone is active all the time.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikroft:
Try turning off Google Latitude if you have it enabled and make sure it's the latest version.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickytenzer:
Like I've said before. The phone is supposed to go into deep sleep. It's not. There's something wrong.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aydc:
The culprit is Google Maps as I see in one of the screenshots. Freeze it with Titanium Backup. Also, turn off network location tracking.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickytenzer:
Hmm, I can't recall WHAT did it (I tried a multitude of things) but now the phone appears to be going into deep sleep. The best way to tell is whether it takes a half a second to wake the device. I think it MAY have been the car home or whatever that comes pre-installed...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Red_Vex:
Same problem...today phone don't go to deep sleep.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr mystery:
Mine seems to have same problem tonight, 20% battery in an hour fresh off a charge, awake shows lots of solid line
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lambstone:
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/misc-are-you-****ing-kidding-me-clean-s.png

None of the answers are correct. You've asked a question that has been answered in countless threads before you.

I see that from your screen shot your phone is plugged in. It has been well established that the phone never enter deep sleep when it is plugged in.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dr.Move:
I made a custom Analog clock and slider buttons for S2U2 and thought I’d share.

The clock is based on Windows vista sidebar clock.

Just copy the Clock D folder to the S2U2 GFX folder then select the folder from the information menu in S2U2 settings, hit save and you’re good to go.

If you want to add the custom slider buttons copy them over the original files. Make a backup of the old ones just in case you don’t like it.

I won’t customize the topmost curtain icons, sorry.

Added new silver clock. Bigger slider arrows included, and a colorful slider :)

save your current theme/make a backup of the original files just in case you want to revert.

please comment ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dr.Move:
15 views and no feedback ^.^;

Please, at least tell me if you liked it or not.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Rataplan:
Nice move, Dr.Move :D

Greetz,
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dr.Move:
thanks :)

I'm working on another clock.. interested? ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Rataplan:
Yep, I'm interested and I'm sure I'm not the only one. ;)

Greetz,
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dr.Move:
thanks again. I uploaded a new one. let me know what you think :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] shiftpda:
Thanks friend

looks great ;) definitely going to try
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] poyensa:
Hola DrMove! the clocks are great and working fine with CHTtweaks. Just using file cc.png as clock-face. I hope you dont mind share .... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dr.Move:
I can't believe that some of my most respected members on XDA are trying them!

didn't know that CHT tweaks is that capable. I'll try it when I get my phone back :)

I don't mind sharing at all, if you like you could use the clock hands as well.

also if you have a certain clock in mind (even if it's a photo of a real one) let me know, I might be able to make a good PNG file out of it :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nir0th:
Anyone notice a change in their battery life in the past few days? My girlfriend and I both are going through our batteries in just over half a day with no use. It's like the phone isn't sleeping. Looking at battery use Display is using all of the battery. I'm running CM7.0.3 and she's on stock. Looking at mine right now the phone has been on battery for 1 hour 34 minutes, and Display is taking 57% of the battery and I'm down to 84% battery.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deliamber:
Yes! I've had my N1 since January 2010. I stayed stock until recently when I installed CM 7.1 RC1 shortly after it was released. Battery life had always been great, both stock and under CM7, especially with SS4N1. Then, a few days ago it just fell off a cliff. I now get only about 7-8 hours, even with little to no usage. Before I'd barely lose anything if the phone wasn't being used (a percent every couple hours).

Now the Nexus One Battery Calibrator application shows a drain of ~200 mA or more constantly.

I've been tearing my hair out for the last few days, uninstalling apps right and left, trying in vain to figure out what's causing this. I even considered a full wipe and reinstall of CM 7, thinking that some system setting somewhere had gotten horked.

I've always had WiFi set to never sleep, since I'm usually either at work or home. I've also had preferred network type (*#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Info) set to "GSM auto (PRL)" for months.

I've not made any other changes I can think of that would've had such a drastic impact on power consumption. I didn't track all the app updates that happened around the time it started, so I suppose it could be one of those. But I've uninstalled just about everything and it's still happening.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lost Dog:
I have the same issue! Just in the past week or so. I have about 50% battery then a hour or so later it's dead! I was going to get a new battery today but maybe it's a CM7 issue. I use the nightly as soon as they hit the mirror.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lost Dog:
An update on this... There may be a big issue going on with T-Mobile or some recent update:

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/t-mobile-g2-users-suddenly-suffering-from-huge-battery-loss/

Looks like other users on different phones have the same issue!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deliamber:
Thanks for that article, Lost Dog. Makes me feel a bit better. At least I know I'm not just going nuts.

My phone still has increased battery drain even if I put it in airplane mode though. It helps, but it's still much faster than before. This makes me really puzzled as to what the cause could be. How could the cell network still be causing increased drain if the phone's completely disconnected from it? Some sort of configuration information it received that persists even after the cell radio is turned off? EDIT: I may be wrong on this one, see below.

Last night I tried a complete wipe (using Temasek's full format "Format-signed.zip" first), and re-installed CM7.1 RC1 completely fresh. I installed only the minimal Google applications and a couple crucial tools (my password safe app). However, I'm still getting the same quick battery drain today.

I hope we (or T-Moblie) can figure out how to fix this. It really cripples my phone as a useful tool to have such short life!

EDIT: I'm going to try a workaround I've seen mentioned in comments on the TMoNews and Phandroid articles about this: limiting the cellular connection to 2G/EDGE only. It seems to have made a significant difference so far. I may have been incorrect then about airplane mode not having an impact. I'd only been checking current drain with the N1 Battery Calibrator app, and never left it in airplane mode for long. Anyway, I'll post back later this afternoon with results.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deliamber:
Ok, so switching to 2G-only for the cellular connection seems to have made a HUGE difference. The drain rate seems to be back at around what I'd expect. Everything else I left exactly the same (WiFi on, GPS enabled, same applications, etc.)

So, I'm starting to suspect something may be up with T-Mobile's 3G/3G+ service in some areas that's preventing phones from idling properly.

Anyone else want to give it a try?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nir0th:
Interesting, I'll switch over to 2G only and see how that affects my phone.

I've gone as far as wiping everything and that didn't help so if it really is a t-mobile issue then that would shed some light on the situation.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lost Dog:
I see the same trend when switching to 2G only. Very steep power usage with 3G then a dramatic decrease in the discharge slope in 2G.

T-Mobile has an issue. The trick will be getting someone there to listen.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lost Dog:
Here is my screenshot. You can clearly see when I turned on 3G. Dramatic difference. Looking on the T-Mobile forum there are many people seeing the same issue but there's mostly finger pointing and speculation as to the cause.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ricky9237:
I also got the same rapid battery drain since last Wednesday. At that time, I thought there may be a hardware/battery issue for my nexus one. To test this, I switched my rom from CM7 back to GB stock. After a few updates for the GB stock and used it for a day, same battery drain happened. So, I changed to use another backup battery yesterday. It did not help also. I thought it may be a real hardware issue.

Then, I found this thread and research a bit in the web. I found out it could be either caused by tmobile or google map updates. I first uninstall google map and reinstall the new version right from the market again. I also switch off 3G as well. No rapid battery drain for the entire day. The battery runs normally. When I came back home today, I turned on 3G, let it for a couple of hours, checked a couple of emails and received a 20min phone call. Everything seems to work fine. No noticeable rapid battery drain was observed. My conclusion so far is: this is caused by google map 5.8 update.

Try to uninstall it and reinstall the google map from the market to see if it helps.

Good luck.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deliamber:
Well, I'm willing to give it a try, but I'm skeptical. If it were the Maps 5.8 application that was preventing the phone from idling correctly, or transmitting tons of data, wouldn't we expect it to happen regardless of whether the phone was using the 2G or 3G radio connection? Sure, there might be a slight difference in the drain rate, but we'd still expect to see it in both cases. And yet the accelerated drain is alleviated completely by using only 2G. I have the Maps 5.8 application and can fix the problem by using 2G only. That indicates to me it's not an issue with the application.

I'll try uninstalling Maps tomorrow (I'm using CyanogenMod, so it's possible to remove it completely). Then I'll put the phone back on 3G and report back on what happens.