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[HTC Desire S] yeawhatever:
Does the desire s come with gorilla glass. if so how good is it. I didn't know when I bought it so instantly wacked on a screen protector and am just wondering if I still need it
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah it does. Why bother removing it when you already bought it and installed it?

Gorilla glass doesn't 100% gurantee no scratches on your phone. You may as well keep it on.

BTW, which make is your protector?
[HTC Desire S] yeawhatever:
Just cheap no name eBay ones. Perform ok but do show smudges. May get some decent ones
[HTC Desire S] userdesires:
Gorilla glass scratches just the same as any other phone as I found out personally.

HTC Desire S-Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] mx5_white:
I recommend the original HTC. Very smooth surface and smudge reasonable. Better then Case Mate which have a bad fit and are do feel a bit thicker.
[HTC Desire S] Cabanne:
I took the screen protector in orange, it is mat (below trace) and quite thick.

Sold in pairs: a mat and a brilliant
[HTC Desire S] hamedunix:
Desire S has no Gorilla glass. It uses Asahi glass.
[HTC Desire S] Mem Ristor:
The Desire S has Gorilla Glass.

See the information on the Corning website.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Regardless to whether or not the phone has gorilla glass, its still proved to be strong.

Also these HTC officials change their stories all the time. Some say it has gorilla glass, whilst other HTC employees say it don't.
[HTC Desire S] budingyun:
got gorilla glass or not, still better invest on some screen protector.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Agreed. I have a screen protector on every device I have.
[HTC Desire S] goatimus:
I have bought some cheap screen protectors from amazon 99p for 10. With free postage. I still have the first one on with no scratches no fluff bubbles and my finger glides like silk. Who says they have to be expensive :)
[HTC Desire S] gmaxx:
I see you guys talk about cases, but nobody mentioned this one: HTC Desire S TPU Case TP C580. I can't attach links, so you'll have too search for it yourselves.

I accidentally dropped the phone a few times with said case, and it did a great job of keeping the phone in one piece. Besides, it fits perfectly.
[HTC Desire S] hamedunix:
I personally don't like these cases since they make the phone even thicker. I don't recommend getting one unless you're such an accident prone or your environment is full of hazards.
[HTC Desire S] goatimus:
I agree why would you cover up a good looking phone with lovely aluminium housing with a horrible bit of rubber or plastic. Just dedicate a pocket for phone use only.
[HTC Desire S] apx@dwx:
i use the atFoliX FX-Clear for 3,99€ @ amazon and it does its job
[HTC Desire S] MarlX:
so, anyone who has a desire s naked? any scratches? how many months are you using the device? i'm askin coz i have mine but am using a cheap protector and planning to switch (or not) to the expensive one.
[HTC Desire S] apx@dwx:
but expensive insn't everytime the best solution.

if your protector does his job - let him do it^^
[HTC Desire S] miwanr:
I did not put a screen protector on my DS, and after 8 months I used to stay without a scratch. And I always hope no scratches :)

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Thank you for bringing a 10 month old thread back to life just for that little insight :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] hamedunix:
I don't have my DS anymore. Loved that device. :thumbup:
[HTC Desire S] elektraaaaaa:
same as the batteries, I usually look on ebay.

a greeting.:good:
[HTC Desire S] goodhoko:
I had my for about 9 months without any protection, just minor and very small cratches. But then I left it in bag with keys, and it got terrible scrathced, I thought gorilla glas has no problem wit key :D. Now I have whole ner glass with digitizer. :)
[HTC Desire S] gadrdenboy:
Perfect matt protector is BRANDO protector. And i like original protectors too.
[HTC Desire S] remusator:
Don't use screen protectors at all.

I have been very carefull in the beginning. Tons of cases ans screen foils costed me nearly as much as new phone. (Just joking, but i had lot of them).

I ended up with naked phone, no case, no screen protector at all. I am using it this way almost half year, with no damage. Maybe ! 1 or 2 minor scratches. One of them appeared after sliding over screen with particle of sand on my finger, on the beach. You can barelly see them even if you know, where they are. But the feeling of naked glass is priceless comparing to cheapo plastic screen protectors.

Don't use case also. When your phone get scratched, you can then order a case to mask damage. What is it good for to wear phone 3 years in case and then throw it away nice without touch.

I use only neoprene pouch, when i throw my phone into bag or pocket with coins etc.
[HTC Desire S] miwanr:
Yes, it is. Useless, nice smartphone but do not enjoy the beauty. Installing the screen protector only reduce sensitivity. Maybe 2 years we used was tired and outdated.

Sent from my only droid hTC Saga
[HTC Desire S] BblDE3HAP:
1 year without any protection... No scratches ;)
[HTC Desire S] brom25:
XtremeGuard, the best !
[HTC Desire S] epinephrin3:
Ive been using official HTC screen protectors off ebay. i dont know how oficial they actually are but they work really well and are a lot better than the cheap ones you can get off there for 99p
[HTC Desire S] silcay:
Bought it on eBay in February.

I got 3 pieces for 1$. It fits perfectly on the screen. Still having the first one on the screen.

Just search "3x Clear LCD Screen Protector for HTC Desire S G12"
[HTC Desire S] silent_hunter:
Also using HTC's screen protector - great quality, and relatively cheap.
[HTC Desire S] m0o0m:
Got 2 Scratches in the first days, don't know how this happend.

After that no more scratches for 1.5 years without protection.
[HTC Desire S] iksel:
Looks like Gorilla got weak... :silly:
[HTC Desire S] :
Xtremeguard use the code 70off for 70% off.
[HTC Desire S] amdr:
i used cheap bluestar for my nokia e52 and it was ok.

Later i used no protection for htc magic (no scratches in a year) and doing the same with DS - I trusted in gorilla glass until a week ago when got one 2-milimeter scratch. I don't know how, i use DS carefully :( Next time i'll buy a protector, even a cheap one to replace after few months.
[HTC Desire S] horbatiuk88:
+1 I used protection screen before. But now I have leather case without it:good:
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
hello I used the Revolutionary to achieve s-off and install clockwork recovery, then my phone booted up and update the prl and hands free and such. now when i boot into the bootloader if i select recovery it goes to the HTC logo screen and does nothing and if i even just try to power on my device same screen HTC logo only thing i can do is volume down and power to access bootloader
[HTC EVO 3D] t3project:
recovery didnt flash, you arent bricked. just flash team win project recovery
[HTC EVO 3D] HSadler93:
Definitely not bricked, you probably just scared a whole bunch of people.
[HTC EVO 3D] smokin1337:
Follow this i had the same issue http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192245
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
when i open the fastboot.exe the adb shell windows (dos) opens and closes extremly fast no idea what it said
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
some people need to learn the definition of Bricked.

Bricked= exactly that the phone is now good for. a brick. (A.K.A: paperweight, doorstop, etc.) lol

yeah, just do what the others of told you, you'll get it squared away.
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
i followed instructions and flashed the recovery thru fastboot usb in the bootloader but still nothing

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/18712672.jpg/
[HTC EVO 3D] HSadler93:
Take out flash_image and replace with just "flash" <---No Quotes!
[HTC EVO 3D] kaos420:
did you download fastboot from htc site? do you have sdk downloaded? i had same issue. cwm didnt take. i flashed teamwins no issues at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
if i do that i get

unknown partition 'recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img'

error: cannot determine image filename for 'recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img'
[HTC EVO 3D] HSadler93:
Is your file called "recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img"? Also is it in the same folder as ADB/Fastboot?
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
okay finally got the image to flash start to send once on writing image fails remote partition does not exist

had to type

fastboot flash image recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img in the cmd prompt
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
yes same directory
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
It is

fastboot flash recovery recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img

that you need to type in cmd. You have to tell it where to flash (in this case the recovery partition).

Let me know if that works for you.
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
thanks for your help now i have recovery working my phone still wont boot up ill have to find a factory rom on the web
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
Your welcome. Glad I could help!

There is a rom in the development section. Not sure if it works though. You could run the RUU and then redo everything now that you know exactly how.

Have you tried a factory reset from the bootloader after getting the recovery to work?
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
just did a factory reset thru TWRP and its stuck on the HTC logo screen trying to boot up same issue as earlier Im not sure why my phone will not boot up. seems like only thing i can do is access the bootloader
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
How long do you wait before you decide it wont boot?
[HTC EVO 3D] spinx1337:
10-15 minutes should i wait longer?
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
Nah, that should be good. http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.phpt=1092957&highlight=ruu

Do this then the whole process over.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
How do I restore my Bell 2.2.2 phone which is rooted, but doesn't have an unlocked booloader to stock firmware? I accicentally uninstalled Email 2.2.2, Weather 2.2.2 and News 2.2.2 making it impossible to update ota so if I go back to stock ill be fine right?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wewillrock:
I wanna know too!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

Go here, copy the main file and the one with the radio and boot loader to your phone, flash both in CWM, done.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillfever:
NFHimself can I use this or should I use your(nate_benji) How to get back to Stock Bell rom cause I have the French 4.2.1.1 installed....root and deodex....thanks dill...oh and I probably will want to unlock BL.......
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

I'm updating the thread, that means waiting for an upload to finish. It adds in everything to get back to stock in one CWM zip, radio and bootloader. The unlocked and fixed zip should be done immediately after in the same CWM recovery session to keep the unlocked bootloader, ram fixed CWM recovery, and ram fixed 2.2.2 boot image. Otherwise you have to reflash IHOP to get the unlocked bootloader back and reflash CWM recovery.

Now, you have to ask yourself if you want to be stock when the final Bell update isn't even out yet. :)

EDIT: Thread updated

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
So when the final Bell update, i.e. the official Gingerbread update for the Bell Atrix is released, we won't need all these fixes and such since it will be a stable version? Also, would I be able to update ota without the aformentioned core apps I uninstalled or would it be more wise to stick to custom roms? Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillfever:
So I can run this script with my french 2.1.1 to get back to stock bell 2.2.2 then keep going to unlock bootloader so I can then flash a c-rom to give me 2.3.4?? got a bunch of catching up (reading) to do.....lol thanks dill
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
No script. Just a CWM. You need to be unlocked first. Use ihop and tenfars unlocked CWM recovery.

I now have a Bell GB CWM up as well.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

I have no idea how good the official Bell gb will be, the Leak is good. OTA may or may not patch those files, most likely it would.

If you mean AT&T firmware when you say custom roms that's up to you. It's nice to have the option not to use that., for that reason, all the patches. I haven't patched anything with the bell gb leak, works fine. By default it includes several features AT&T folks have to hack in. Not perfect but it's less work.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillfever:
Ok let me get this straight.......I will update my fr-4.2.1.1 to stock bell 2.2.2 and use unlock fix then use your gobstopper 2.3.4.....all of this is done in CWM correct??? do I enter recovery by powering off and on holding vol. up ???? or do I just enter system recovery right on my phone????? god am I a NOOB......thanks dill...........
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

It is volume down when you turn the phone on, says fastboot, click vol down until it says android recovery, then vol up. You have to be unlocked of course, and CWM installed.

If you are doing both at the same time, just 222 gobstopper and then 234 gobstopper which includes the ram fixes. Sometime when I get a chance I'll add in a few partitions to 234 to avoid the 222 step, slow upload connection here. (1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 are the partitions left out of 234) And I am not sure if it's needed going from Froyo to Froyo.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillfever:
Thank you....I see in your Gobstopper GB2.3.4 link that you are updating////

(Not a problem, Testing now, Will upload immediately after. So another 3.5 hours or so it will be done. lol

I included the multitouch hack and the rest of the partitions, so once it's done you won't have to go back to 2.2.2 for any reason to install it.) should I wait for this 2.3.4 to install, but I will still need to get back to stock2.2.2 first right??? or will I just have to use your updated GB2.3.4??????? thanks again dill......will be donating to u for sure......Oh and I read somewhere about deleting (install-recovery.sh) in system-etc if its there....and it is???
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

The 2.3.4 I'm uploading will be stand alone. I believe I deleted that recovery.sh file in /system/etc. Hope so. lol

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillfever:
I mean I haven't done anything to my french 2.1.1 yet, I have that (install-recovery.sh) on my phone's system/ etc now. should I delete it or when I CWM your GB 2.3.4 take care of it?? thanks dill and sorry for all the ??'s
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

The 2.3.4 will take care of it. The entire system partition is overwritten.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
Alright so am I on a stock 2.2.2 Bell firmware at the moment since all I really have is root, not even an unlocked bootloader, but I don't have those 3 core apps? If so, that means I don't need the 2.2.2 gobstopper and I can just use the 2.3.4 one after I unlock my bootloader and install CWM correct? Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

Yes, that's right. Don't use rom manager, use tenfar's unlocked one.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
Thanks. Just one final question before I unlock the bootloader. Does my USB connection have to be in Mass Storage mode or None?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Hi,

USB debugging on, USB mode none.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
Ok I lied, just one more. Are the steps to unlock the bootloader and get CWM the same for a Bell Atrix as an AT&T one other than I need to RSD flash IHOP_BELL instead of the AT&T variant? Thanks for all your help so far!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
You are correct
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
Do I place the Bell-2.3.4.zip file in the sd card or the internal storage of my phone? I apparently shouldn't make any promises that this is my last question lol. Sorry about that. Just wanna make sure I know exactly what I'm doing to the tee before starting.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] capercb:
internal storage

;)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
Hi. I just flashed my IHOP_BELL and it said passed, but my phone is stuck in RSD mode and wont turn off or reboot. Please help!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
I fixed my last problem, but now I have a new one. When going into CWM I get the android guy instead of the menu so I deleted the install-recovery.sh and now what? Do I just flash CWM again or do I need to reflash the unlocker? "It says reflash your unlock sbf" here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15715637&postcount=136

but I'm not sure what that means.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lexx210:
Fixed CWM as well. Thanks again to everyone who helped me!
[Defy General] jvnm4321:
Does some one know how to install swype on this nice ROM, and how I can add my city into de weather widget there only some chinese names city :confused:

Thx
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Which recovery do you plan to use with your 3VO? CWM or TWRP?

Please tell us if you are a Dev, Cook or regular XDA user
[HTC EVO 3D] Compusmurf:
TWRP until there are OTHER options then I shall evaluate them all. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] HSadler93:
I'm just a user here @Xda-Developers and I'm planning on using TWRP unless an alternative appears that everyone thinks is more beneficial.
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
I am a dev, most likely will use my own recovery, I installed TWRP right now to see if I like it or not.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Team Win... ROM Cook...
[HTC EVO 3D] raymond4:
I'm a regular user and I installed clockworkmod recovery with no problem
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
I love the look and feel of TWRP, so I'llprobably stick to that.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattinky11:
Is the teamwin recovery lots better than cwm? I installed clockwork no problem but if others think it would be more beneficial to install the other then I feel like I should do that. Also I don't know how the support will be for cwm and our device. Anyway, any info would be appreciated.
[HTC EVO 3D] southern87:
I am using TWRP. I like the feel of it.
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
TWRP. XDA user/ROM cooker (for personal use).
[HTC EVO 3D] weezymagic:
Cwm. Regular user
[HTC EVO 3D] todah09:
CWM, regular user...can i just use the TWRP image and put it on my sd card and flash it thru hboot or do i have to use ADB?
[HTC EVO 3D] drewski83:
I am power xda/user/tweaker/techie and have always used and liked ClockworkMod Recovery. Luckily, I was one of few that the Revolutionary exploit worked when pushing CWMR to my Evo 3D! :-D

Fining for me some MIUI and CyanogenMod ROMs!!
[HTC EVO 3D] kmagn13:
Cwm

Flashed with s-off...worked fine for me...
[HTC EVO 3D] bwcorvus:
I plan to use TWRP on my HTC EVO 3D. If amon develops one, i may check it out also. I have never been a fan of CWM.
[HTC EVO 3D] jackpearce:
Regular xda reader/follower. TWRP.
[HTC EVO 3D] xtkxhom3r:
while i was rooting it asked me if i wanted to install cwm automatically so i did cus i didnt want to mess with adb and now all this talk about twrp is making me regret it.... can i just flash twrp through cwm???
[HTC EVO 3D] 2k4mach:
teamwin for now, if amon_ra comes along ill switch to it.
[HTC EVO 3D] LouRock:
ClockworkMod works just fine for me. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
Teamwin atm

E3D
[HTC EVO 3D] ChrisAC84:
I am just a regular user. I was also one of the few that got CWM to work with Revolutionary. however, I flashed TWRP afterwards, and I like it a little better. Mainly the colors are easier for my bad eyes to read, lol
[HTC EVO 3D] irishgreen:
TeamWins TWRP Recovery is nice!! Its a upgraded Amon Ra to me..and Amon ruled the evo4g recovery imho...and the fact u can change the font color in recovery is a nice option too..overall its way better than CM imo..sorry if i offended anyone :)
[HTC EVO 3D] kingcliff00:
Flashoholic Here n im rocking out with TWRP
[HTC EVO 3D] creator2456:
Been a fan of CWM, but I like the look and feel of TWRP. Until there is a Pro/Con list to each I will stay with TWRP for now.
[HTC EVO 3D] tgkdubb:
CWM flashed with no issue for me so I just went with it. I may change to twrp.
[HTC EVO 3D] 031067:
Clockworkmod Recovery - Link?

Does anyone have a link to download this recovery?
[HTC EVO 3D] Jokerzwyld:
Team win. Regular user
[HTC EVO 3D] IRepTheKing:
Can you rename your backups with either of these? One thing I miss about Rom Manager is that you could rename your backups if you ran CWM. When you are a flashaholic like I was with the OG Evo, keeping up with which rom backup you are restoring comes in handy.

-sent from the unashamed Christian,

IRepTheKING
[HTC EVO 3D] mttneedham:
Prob. gonna stick with TWRP for now it seems to be taking off pretty good.

Just a reg. Xda Guy
[HTC EVO 3D] mprunty:
CWM for the win.
[HTC EVO 3D] clifford:
I'm a junkie and so far Twrp is doing good for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] DozeBeatS:
Those of you on CWM. Make sure you are able to charge your phone while it is off. This is a known bug I experienced myself which led me to TeamWin.
[HTC EVO 3D] str8upx:
CWM. I was concerned about the battery % bug with TRWP. Also since Rom Manager primarily uses CWM I thought it would be an easier to use when RM supports the Evo 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmanvbva:
I believe... Based on comments in other threads... That TWRP is based off CWM and the backups are compatible?

Just wanted to clarify.

Also, Amon has apparently stated he will not be supporting the EVO 3D.

I always preferred Amon RA on the EVO also.
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
Regular user (but what does my drug consumption have to do with anything?)

I'm gonna give team win a try. Been cwm since I first rooted my hero, I'm down for something new.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigmikehd2:
CWM for me only because I'm so used to it already and Rom manager support. I did try Team Win recovery though and it is nice!
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
I initially voted for TWRP but that before I installed Revolution. Since the prompt for CWM came up and it worked really well for me on the Hero for installing GB roms, I did. I've flashed two different roms and made several backups. I've also done a few restores, and I dig the blue font color. I know TWRP has themes so maybe I'll get around to it someday. For now, its CWM for me, regular user
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
Newest version of CWM fixes this, version 4.0.1.5. No bugs at all now.
[HTC EVO 3D] samuel20709:
CWM Regular XDA user
[HTC EVO 3D] ViViDboarder:
So twrp dev here...

What reasons do people have to use CWM other than just being something they are used to?

I'm just curious to see if there is anything more we can add considering we already have way more features than CWM. I can post a feature comparison if you guys would like.
[HTC EVO 3D] Neo31697:
Does the new cwm have to use special zip files still or can they flash any zip now?

Sent from my HTC EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] bigmikehd2:
Honestly for me, it's all about rom manager support. And I don't think I could fix permissions in twrp which has saved me a couple times in the past.

Sent from my Evo 3d with XDA premium
[HTC EVO 3D] mage_slayer2:
twrp for the win
[HTC EVO 3D] chillenandy321:
Most recent CWM seems to be good for me
[HTC EVO 3D] guyver2077:
I noticed that Rom Manager detects my recovery as RA recovery. (isnt that from OG evo)

Anyways no issues so far with TWRP. (and i was an clockwork user OG evo days)
[HTC EVO 3D] zsibisi:
Currently Have S-Off and Perm Root on my Evo 3D. I also currently have TWRP on as my recovery. I guess the question would be If I wanted to switch to CWM can I do this by D/L Rom Manager and flashing the latest CWM in the app menu? Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] WyldOne91:
Regular XDA user and I personally prefer clockworkmod
[HTC EVO 3D] WyldOne91:
Yes you can flash it through ROM manager
[HTC EVO 3D] Skyphos:
I was going to perm-root this past weekend but didnt get to due to some family stuff. I've also been trying to find out what recovery offers the most and which seems to be getting the best support/feedback.

Vivi: Care to post that comparison you had? I used CWM on three of the last phones (my moment and evo 4g and the wifes epic). Never had any probs. I'm open to trying new things though =-)

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