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[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
if you google , you will not find much written on hboot , But it is Basically Yes

it starts the boot and in a certain stage it hand over to the Rom to complete the boot , Also it is responsible for what you are allowed to access through adding or removing the security flags to partitions using hboot i guess , for example htc dev unlocks Recovery and System Partitions through it i guess , but if you try Radio for example you will not be able to because it is still protected by hboot

the RUU content which is important to you as a user and affects your ability to work with your device are Radio , bootloader , recovery , system and other content that is flashed to different additional Partitions like misc Partition ( those are for developers not to us , i am not a developer )

what you should know about RUU that :

it replaces your unlocked hboot with locked original hboot , i.e fastboot write commands will be disabled like flashing commands

it replaces the custom Recovery with Stock recovery , i.e no NAND Back or restore or flashing non signed zip files

Removes Super user ( Root ) as it overwrites system Partition which includes the installed SU

it will not remove your S-OFF

it is an .EXE file flashed from PC and device in fastboot ( requires htc sync to be installed ) , an alternative method in unusual cases is to extract the Rom.zip inside the .exe and rename it to PG58IMG.zip and flash it through hboot
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
Sure, I did google it and just got some not-clear explainations. But basically now I have the idea about hboot.

Speaking about radio, I've read on certain custom rom posts explain that the rom demand radio upgrade and need to be radio s-off. Another s-off?

Oh i see... It is just the same as a stock OTA that google release for my previous Nexus S phone which contains regional radio, stock rom, stock recovery, etc. In short, by flashing the stock OTA, it turns back the phone to the original rom, but bootloader is still unlock. I was recognized it as a Stock OTA ROM. RUU is a new term for me though :)

So, it won't remove the s-off... mmm... okay.

I haven't got stock recovery while in hboot 1.17.0011. The time when the phone is s-on and I selected recovery, it appeared with a triangle red critical mark.

So RUU can be flashed through 3 way, is it right?

- from pc, flash with htc sync by open the exe file.

- from fastboot trough command prompt.

- from putting the PG58IMG.zip file to the sd card and flash with hboot.
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
all firmware Packages include suitable version of Radio , so when you upgrade or downgrade firmware a suitable Radio is installed

Radio S-OFF is the Permanent S-OFF , Eng S-Off is for some older or different devices and it is not permanent ,

Permanent S-OFF is when the Radio partition is S-OFFed , revolutionary does S-OFF for lot of devices But only 4 of them are Permanent S-OFF ( Sensation is one of them ) , this is due to the way Revolutionary works for each device , for some of them it only removes the Security flag , for others it S-OFF Radio Partition up to my understanding

after flashing an RUU , the bootloader will be locked because the hboot will be replaced by original hboot which is locked by default ( in your case for example it will be the 1.17.0011 original ) , But you will still be S-OFF

you had a Stock recovery for sure , when a triangle mark , press and hold volume up and press power , this will take you to stock recovery

no method 1 , install htc sync , connect you deceive in bootloader fastboot , Run the RUU.exe , follow instructions .

method 2 (

in unusual cases onl

y ) , extract Rom.zip from Ruu , Rename to PG58IMG.zip , place it on SD Card , and flash it from hboot and the PC is not connected

to learn how to extract Rom.zip go here How To Debrand / Rebrand Your Sensation
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
I'm planning to upgrade the stock GB with ARHD ICS ROM. And the OP says that "With 6.6.x ROMs I strongly recommend flashing 11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M radio".

I also read that for GB users who want to flash ICS roms are obligatory to upgrade their radio to v3.xx (v3.12 is believe as the stable one). So, what should I do if i want to install ARHD? Is v3.12 firmware already containing the radio above?

Do you mean, by s-off the hboot it's also unlock the radio already?

Oh... I just know this trick :p

I should bookmark this link in case I want to back to RUU.

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Now, with my phone condition, is it stable already to flash ARHD?

- S-OFF'ed

- Firmware 1.17.1111 (Which one I should flash to install ICS, 3.12 or 3.32?)

- Installed 4EXT

- Rooted

- SuperCIDed
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
If i want to have S-on again on my Sensation xe and i still wont to have ICS with "check for upgrades function" in menu of this rom, i need to flash from here this rom right:

http://www.filefactory.com/f/c87a2330449af512/

( RUU​_PYRAMID​_LE_ICS​_35_S​_HTC​_Europe​_3.32​.401 ​.105​_R_Radio​... ) ??

And then just do the command in cmd for S-on right? ("fastboot oem writesecureflag 3 ). I am not super cid, and i didnt changed it

This is right procedure?

Another question? If i go back to S-on with this new RUU Pyramid ICS, can I do the same procedure for rooting my device and S-off when i was on GB rom? I meen the procedure of rooting with http://revolutionary.io/??
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Hm ok....but i wont to know do i realy need to be super cid to get s-on again. Because if i flash first GB RUU now with my original cid, can i just do the command for s-on in cmd? I am now on ARHD 6.6.3 XE rom and i already return my two phones on S-on ( i changed them to super cid of course), but now i wont to know what if i dont change my original cid to super cid ( wont to be completely stock). Can i somehow be on original cid and get S-on? Because i have heard that if i am super cid i can not recice update from my original RUU??

Second question is if i go back to original GB rom and get S-on my phone, and go in softwer updates and recive update to ICS,and ofcourse installed this update, then i can not root my phone any more?
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
Wow... I did it...!! Now I'm enjoying my delicious ice cream sandwich :D

Thanks a lot to you (trkaaa) and joaquinf who wrote the tutorial here.

Did you say that just keep the default radio my phone has?

So, if a new radio is out later, how do I choose which one the best for my region?

I'm from Indonesia btw :)

Actually, yes... I wasn't really understand yet. But now, I want to clarifying what I read.

So, the HTC release an RUU, it's an original firmware that contains framework, system data, etc.

The devs take this RUU, modify it, and it's a custom rom. ARHD is a modified RUU. Am I correct so far?

I read that some people said that they have experienced a bootloop with 3.24, 3.30 or 3.32. And 3.12 reportedly is the most stable among the rest. I don't know why, may be they forget to remove the PG58IMG.zip file (kidding) :p

But no worries, I flashed the 3.32 firmware and have no problem at all.

Thank you very much for your patient guidance. I really appreciate that.

You have enlighten me enough. At least now I know how to flash an ICS :D

I hope I can ask you other questions sometime. Thanks a lot in advance.
[HTC Sensation] Chuck_Diesel:
Okay, so when I go to put the clockwork recovery image into the root of my sd, it doesn't ask me to accept an instal when i reboot in to bootloader mode. What am I doing wrong?? :/
[HTC Sensation] DarkRaven66:
What file u putting there??
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
Congratulations , and i know you are from Indonesi

you will not find any developers says that this radio is the best specifically for you , that Radio in ARHD is put there from a long time when ICS versions started , the Best Radio is the one that gives better data speeds and signal ( by trial ) , you will find this is for UK users or for US or Asia :

you can also the one Given by Mike ( Ril is included in the ARHD Rom )

there is a newer Radio 11.23.x.x issued with latest Asia ICS you can try it , i don't know if the Ril for that Radio is included or Not so search ARHD thread for that , also there is a thread for Radio and Rils

i don't like playing with Rils and Radios

All Custom Roms are modified RUU's

those members

who have to

flash 3.12 are

rare unknown devices

cases and

they Must

install that old firmware with no reason , it is a defect maybe , But in my opinion those members have done something wrong and sticked to their devices

A free Advice from me , Don't install Sense 4 Roms ( wait 2 or 3 weeks Mike will get it maybe ) . with all respect , Don't install Ordroid Rom or CM9 Rom , they make strange errors and they stick to the device and can't be removed so far , the members having those errors ( wifi and bootloop ) are still asking for a solution

Originally Posted by Chuck_Diesel

Okay, so when I go to put the clockwork recovery image into the root of my sd, it doesn't ask me to accept an instal when i reboot in to bootloader mode. What am I doing wrong?? :/[/QUOTE]

there are two formats for Custom Recovery

recovery.img ( i.e image file ) , this type should be flashed from you PC through fastboot ( i.e not from SD Card )

PG58IMG.zip , this type should be put in root of SD Card and flashed from bootloader like an update

Go here for methods , fastboot commands and downloads Guide for installing Both Custom / Stock Recovery ( Downloads and Methods )
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
Is it too risky in playing radios? What is Rils, a kind of radio too?

I just hear another side about this v3.12 clearly.

If that so, I'll stick to what you suggested, the v3.32.

I'm a very newbie here, I'm a noob that should learn much more.

And actually, I don't interesting to try flashing 4.x sense version according to

their "not working lists". Thanks to that 'not working lists' that prevents me to

flash the rom with 4.x sense which I just know that there are bugs and errors .

Thanks for your advice. I'll now sticking to ARHD. It's stable enough for me.
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
firmware 3.12 is Android 4.0.1 , and it is the only firmware that accepts installing GB and ICS at the same time ( because it was intended to be the transition step Between GB and ICS in my opinion ) , But the problem comes with hboot 1.23 locked , if something gets wrong ( maybe flashing a bad Mod ) and then you need to access you device through fastboot ,here comes the problem

also you have to consider if a newer firmware added a new component which didn't exist in older firmware the hboot is updated accordingly to adapt that new added component for example

Please Post me link for 3.12 positive Reading that you talk about

kernel and Ril are like intermediate between software ( like the Rom and the Radio ) and hardware ( like wifi or ... and Radio ) , the Ril is only responsible for controlling the Radio , you can think of both of them like the windows drivers

there are something i never even once played with , one of them is the rils , i don't like to do that unless i have to , But lot of people do , some say they gets better results , Rils are flashed through recovery like usual zip

you are not a noob , you can start answering member's questions now after all of those posts
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
I hope now I can answer some basic questions about sensation for others.

Thanks for your help :)

This is the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1480061.

The stressed red words is what I've read.

Please tell me if I passed something or got misunderstood.

Hmm... I think I don't want to touch this Rils or Radios for now.

My radio seems works fine. I got a good signal.

I should read & ask about this much further before I touch them :p
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
this is a very old thread since the start of ICS Rom ,yet it is a good one , i read it long time age , and it discuss the case of those very rare devices that has that fix as the only solution , not a recommended solution for everyone , they are forced to do that , although in my opinion doesn't make sense , those member maybe tried bad roms like the ones i warned you about , so don't think of it as a general solution or it is better firmware

you are very clever and read a lot , you can answer all types of questions now , we've almost discussed all critical issues with extended answeres , and believe me after surfing the threads for a while you will realize how valuable and rare such things we discussed here

Just don't rush in for a while to have sometime to adapt to the device and its procedure

One advice is to install leedroid tweaks it will add more functionality to the device , there are 2 mods for that both are similar but by different developers :

HTC Sensation Leedroid Tweaks v4 lite by j4n87 , i prefer that one neat work but it don't update quickly it is now in v3

Leedroid Tweaks Sensation v4.0 [Sense 3.6] by m0narx , now v4.3

for the time being i go with v4.3 because he based it on the latest OTA files included in 6.6.3

But usually i will go with j4n87 v3 when he updates his files to fit ARHD 6.6.3 , you test and choose for your self , v4.3 should be stable and maybe i 'll permanently use it after i test it ( both are good but j4n87 tweaks in more neat with no bugs )

for Rils and Radio , wise decision , people usually do that for higher data speed and they have 4G networks that they want to get the best out of it , but for me or you we don't have that type of speed in our countries , so it is meaningless to play with it

official software give higher data speed better than Custom Roms specially on GB , so they try to reach the same speed on custom roms

another advice or call it tip is try the Rooted OTA by mike and see if you like it , it will give you by far better battery life , you can try the

Odexed

version ( official like and faster and more optimized ) but maybe will not be good for mod if you have problems with flashing mods then try the

dedoxed

version , then flash the rooting tools in the same thread to get rooted
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Anyone please?
[HTC Sensation] dislplin01:
Yea you can but why do you want to???? One the ICS roms here are going to be much cleaner than the stock ones also be careful going back to s-on from s-off you can brick your phone and a hard brick at that, meaning you will have a 500$ paper weight why not just keep s-off and use the super cid there are so many great roms if you want stock ROM just use ARHD that's almost completely stock but optimized and smoother
[HTC Sensation] syntax_gosong:
O I see... so that is just a long time suggestions for a particular case :)

Thanks for your tweaks suggestions. I'll certainly try these later.

True... For now, I don't really need for a higher data connection speed.

It just enough for me. But someday I think my brain will getting itchy to know

how to put them to the phone :D
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
I meen if i need to return the phone for warranty and i need to go back to S-on, or i want to sell this phone to somewhone who wants to have clean phone. So i am asking you do i need to be a super cid to go back to S-on. I understand that i need to flash first RUU GB rom, and then in cmd prompt give the command. But i wont to have my original ceed. Is this possible?
[HTC Sensation] Chuck_Diesel:
Which file should I be putting in there?
[HTC Sensation] hamedunix:
I had to install 4Ext to flash ARHD, now I want to go back to stock and get the OTA ics update. Do I need to get s-on?

How do I get s-on with 4ext installed?
[HTC Sensation] hamedunix:
Anyone please help me getting back to stock and S-on? Currently I am on ARHD custom ROM and I have 4EXT recovery installed.
[HTC Sensation] hamedunix:
Firmware Version

When my phone was completely stock the firmware version was 1.18.0000 and after the 1st step it became 1.17.1111 . Now I want to know is there a way to update it back to 1.18.0000 again? ( in case I want to go back to stock and flash my NANDRIOD stock recovery).
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Ok first read this here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21989107

Do you want to go back to Gingerbread?

After you returned to GB rom then folow steps from number 5 here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300

DO NOT FLASH ICS RUU ROM, FLASH JUST RUU GB ROM FROM HERE:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
[HTC Sensation] wr8_utd:
I'm getting the "There's an error in su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip (Status 0) " and then installation aborts and it didn't root.

What should I do?

---------- Post added at 08:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 PM ----------

Ok took a look at the troubleshooting and got it to work :)
[HTC Sensation] cooljoe226:
I'm stuck at "waiting for device" in the revolutionary program. Any help?

Tmobile sensation on 1.18
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
you need to use old htc drivers HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe

for download and Precautions , go to this guide and follow title " revolutionary Method and precautions " and watch the video if you like , link Downgrade S-ON New firmware and GB OTA for Successful Revolutionary first time S-off ( Sensation ) here
[HTC Sensation] realsis:
You are awesome!

Thanks for all your hard work! Your awesome to make a instructions guide! Thanks so much. Your hard work is much appreciated!
[HTC Sensation] cssoz:
http://revolutionary.io/ website doesn't seem to generate Beta keys anymore.

(i have try Chrome, Firefox, Opera WITH Javasctip enabled) still nothing

:( now i can't S-OFF without doing this step.

Any 1 able to get the beta key page up after clicking the download link ?

thanks

UPDATE: it's working again.
[HTC Sensation] skaburn:
confusion

I'm sorry but I can't understand if this guide is good for my htc sensation xe ICS tim version (the stock one)

if it is not the right guide how can I found it?

one other question, I tried to download from deposit files my gb ruu but it is ever whit "all free slots in use" it is a temporally problem (and I'm unluck) or it is a real problem?

sorry for my bad English,

thanks in advance
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
this Guide is for GB only " hboot 1.18

in your case " hboot 1.27 " there is no S-OFF with revolutionary

you have two solutions :

either to unlock bootloader and install Custom Roms using this Guide post # 2

or S-FF using [S-OFF] Juopunutbear S-OFF here http://unlimited.io at your own risk " better make sure about the type of S-OFF is it hardware S-OFF or is it software S-OFF that can be S-ON again for warranty

try Jdownloader it will get a free slot within ten min to an hour , also try download it from here Shipped Roms
[HTC Sensation] skaburn:
thank a lot, but I would to ask you also:

how can I know if my sensation is hardware s-off or s-on?

I think that it was better to no upgrade...
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
it is shown in bootloader screen

remove battery and put it back , press and hold volume down then press and hold power

in bootloader screen you will find ship S-OFF or Ship S-ON and also your hboot version
[HTC Sensation] msylva:
hello, i've managed to get my unlock code but it dosen´t work.

by SU i´ve got this code D8B377CEB445 (7 numbers instead of 8)

My IMEI is 358313040371853 SFR carrier.

What am I doing Wrong?

Best regards!
[HTC Sensation] chris.wilcox:
I seem to be stuck. I was able to successfully S-Off using revolutionary, but when trying to install recovery (I downloaded recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-pyramid.img and renamed it to PG58IMG.img and copied it to me SD card root) it finds the file, then says parsing, then just stops and goes back to the fastboot menu.

Any reason why?
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
you can't just rename it , doesn't work like that

note if Revolutionary installed CWM v4.x , this version don't charge the phone when it is off

Better to use 4EXT , it is better and needed for ICS Roms

go here for downloads and how to flash Custom Recovery and SU , link Guide for installing Both Custom / Stock Recovery ( Downloads and Methods )
[HTC Sensation] chris.wilcox:
Thanks! I was able to use the Sensation All-in-one-Toolkit v1.1 and CWM Recovery v5.0.2.0 is on and working. What is the difference with 4ext? I can still do a Nandroid and flash zips? Is something wrong with CWM Recovery?
[HTC Sensation] Mr Troop:
Successfully Obtained S-on

Many thanks for the instructions :D
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

4 EXT is a newer version of CWM,and is essentially an evolution of CWM.

It has all the functionality of CWM,but put together in a much better looking package.

Highly recommended.

:)
[HTC Sensation] preficks:
My CID seems to have reverted to T-MOB010 from 11111111

Is it possible that some combination of ROM / kernel reverted my CID back to T-MOB010? When I originally rooted my phone about 8 months ago I had CID: 11111111 and now I just checked it again via 'fastboot getvar cid' and it shows T-MOB010... Can I safely do 'fastboot oem writecid 11111111' again or should I not do that?
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
salam zulfiqar , although hboot1.18.0000 is supported , but your software is too new to work with revolutionary

to solve that you need to do either of the following :

Downgrade then S-OFF , go here Downgrade S-ON New firmware and GB OTA for Successful Revolutionary first time S-off ( Sensation ) here

or use tacoroot directly without downgrade " do it at your own risk with full Battery " , tacoroot link and step by step [Guide] Fix for Revolutionary S-OFF fails on OTA S-ON update

read revolutionary precautions here and watch the video if you like to
[HTC Sensation] blackcell1:
do i first unlock my bootloader from htcdev or do i just use the s-off tool ?
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

ALWAYS try revolutionary first.

Only use HTC methods as a last resort.

What is your hboot?

:)
[HTC Sensation] blackcell1:
its hboot-1.27.0000
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

Oh.

Bad luck.

If you want to install custom ICS ROM, then go to THIS THREAD

:)
[HTC Sensation] blackcell1:
im not really fussed about having s-off at this moment in time, but would http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1614617 method be ok ?
[HTC Sensation] malybru:
Hi,

If you are not fussed about s-off at the moment,then just go with the installation of a custom ROM on the thread I pointed to.

Maybe in the future,a better method for s-off will appear other than Juopunutbear S-OFF.

:)
[HTC Sensation] RCOO:
Ok, so I just got my Sensation and I have HBOOT 1.27 -.-

How should I procede in order to install OrDroid_V6.1.0, for example? Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] trkaaa:
you now have two Alternatives :

use Juopunutbear S-OFF method and then flash firmware and custom Rom , follow him http://unlimited.io or use the Guide http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1614617

or you stay S-ON and flash custom rom after unlocking your bootloader , note you will be only able to flash ICS Roms

that are Based on the same firmware you have now

, it is usually firmware 3.32 , but you have to check it using command fastboot getvar all

to install ICS while S-ON , go here Post # 2 , and follow title " 1) Easy Method for Installing ICS Custom Roms ( S-ON Devices with hboot 1.27.0000 ) " , skip the items you already did " like recovery "

i don't recommend OrDroid , or AOSP or AOKP , there cause unsolved errors like wifi and brick , ARHD is a better choice

go to noob friendly help thread read my last few posts for the same Problem , you will find links and downloads if you need to , here 3665

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26275282&postcount=3665