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[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Have you ever heard of the phrase, "age is just a number"?

some people are young and look old

some people are old and look young

same applies here. the version number is irrelevent

we could say windows mobile 7 is better because its 7 while gingerbread is 2.3 etc

but that is irrelevent as its from two different software types

the version number is irrelevent because both clockworks do the same things, one isnt faster or smoother or have extra features than the other

both clockworks 4.0.1.4 and 4.0.1.5 do the same thing

4.0.1.4 is from revolutionary who gave us s-off

4.0.1.5 is from clockwork

at the moment both of them were released around the same time, but 4.0.1.4 is more up to date as the charging bugs are gone and the LED is fixed, why they didn't change the number i dont know,

they are from two different developers/team not the same developer which is why they have two versions and the 1.4 is more up to date at this moment in time than the 1.5
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
So why does revolutionary not detect the phone? I select HTC just like the instructions say and it doesn't detect it.
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
So what about the Clockwork Mod/ROM Manager you can download thru the Market. With S-OFF and rooted am I able to use it or should I stick to the Recovery I installed when I got S-OFF? For example, I clicked on 'Manage and Restore Backups' in CWM and received a message that I needed to install Clockwork Mod Recovery and asked me if I wanted to do it. I opted not to out of fear I would screw something up.
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
Anyone? I have tried everything.
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
Do you have the HTC drivers installed?
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
I don't have the HTC sync installed no. It did install the ADB drivers. I have used this laptop to root many devices and adb devices detects it just fine also.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
The clockwork mod from the market that displays recovery in orange, does have charging issues for some people. it is noted if you run your battery fully flat, your battery may not charge and u may have to buy a new battery to get it up and running again. the new revolutionary recovery is the same as clockwork, but it does charge, im not using the one in rom manager i used the one in post 2.

rom mamanger will give u 4.0.1.5

i have put in 4.0.1.4 in step 2 of post 1
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
So what error are you getting then in the cmd prompt?
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
Okay got that part fixed, had to install the HTC naked drivers from this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1161769

May want to add that to the instructions.

Okay after that revolutionary sits at waiting for fastboot so I had to replace the drivers again and it went through. It then got to the part where it asked if i wanted to download clockwork mod and then it crashed. Noobproof, yeah sure, LOL.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
what crashed?
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
Revolutionary.exe crashed right after I put in Y to download and install clockwork mod recovery.

Faulting application revolutionary.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module libjson-0.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00001ef0.

I installed it through the other method and I'm finally 100% rooted. So what's the best ROM so far for this thing?
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
Yes :)

Its the letters.. check capitals and lower case

The custom roms will have the OTA in it, the ones that the devs deem fit..and now once you are on a custom rom you will not get any OTA

TRUE CLYDEB1

COPUPLE OF WEEKS???????????????? You can wait that long?????? LOL

Alpharev recovery from step 2 of the OP works better, definitely when it comes to charging.. the adb comman works well.. shows FULL when the battery is full and charging when it is charging.. the LEDs are fine.. turns green when it is charged.. the only thing is when you first put it in to charge it goes orange.. goes off for a second and then back on.. and stay that way.. no biggie

I am sorry mate.. its noobproof for sure.. just not supernoob proof.. the OP has done awesum job.. give some credit... :P
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
thanks Prateek, awesome post. thanks for that

To GrandMstrBud.

Sorry you are a noob but i suspect maybe you were ignorant to skip ahead of the guide without reading. Step1 - S-off

sub step 8 i wrote

"8. Revolutionary will now ask you to Install clockwork recovery mod after S OFF. Type N and install it manually below (the recovery provided is v4.0.1.4 doesn't charge when device is switched off, the one below v 4.1.0.5 does charge)"

you said u typed y.

i told everyone in post 1 not to type y but to type n and install reovery manually from step 2. it sure is noob proof but not ignorant proof when u do not read
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
Well it's not noob proof that's for sure. I've rooted a good 10 plus phones and never had problems on the first shot unlike this guide. Yes I did get it to work and it was a driver issue so maybe you could put something in there to install the HTC naked drivers instead of putting that in the FAQ section. I'm not going to get into a flaming war or anything because really it's not worth it. Were all here to help each other but then you come on here and tell me I'm a noob? Like I said it does work but it's not noob proof. Again not worth arguing over but I'm sure you will come back with some lame comment to try and make yourself look better so go ahead and more power to you.
[HTC Sensation] Toddy7658:
When ever I enter the BETA key from revolutionary.io it says invalid beta key, every time I enter it I made sure it has the capitals and everything but it stills says invalid key. Can anyone help?
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
LOL.. Grandmstr... well tried :P . But you know what, i agree with you and I am sure so will Ikhzter :)

Glad you worked it out..
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Yes i agree it should be in post 1, i cannot have everything in one long post and this issue affects the minority, so everything in post 1 is for everyone, for those with problems, refer to post 2, those who have no clue what all this is about post 3.

Also your revolutionary crashed, i havent heard of that issue before at all. thats something alpharev and revolutionary team need to look at.

rooting the sensation was slightly different to the others, such as the desire hd you could have one click tools to do it all for you. i have tried to make the guide generic as possible. I have rooted many phones in the past too. and yes the sensation was not the easiest so apologies if this guide wasn't up to anyone's standards.
[HTC Sensation] GrandMstrBud:
ikhzter, it's not that the guide is not up to my standards everything worked great except the part of the drivers but after I figured that out the rest was a piece of cake. I didn't mean any disrespect at all I was just trying to help out by giving a suggestion that way in case others run into the same thing they don't get frustrated or have to search over 100 pages just to find the solution. Again great guide and if you didn't write it my Sensation would not be rooted now and I do appreciate you putting up a guide. So I apologize if you took it the wrong way but I just got a little irritated by being called a noob when I have rooted many many devices. None of this would have ever been possible without you and all the great people on this forum for helping the rest of us root our phones.
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Sorry for the noobest of questions. I come from the HD2 and have my Sensation only one day. In post 1 you write:

Quote :

How To get your Hboot Version - 3 methods below

But I can't find either Method 1,2 or 3 :)

On my HD2 I had to start the phone with Vol up and down pressed, but that does not work here. Could someone help me out.

Thx in advance

EDIT: Nevermind, got it :D
[HTC Sensation] j_rahman07:
i booted into recover by holding volume down and power and it shows the hboot version on the top.
[HTC Sensation] j_rahman07:
when i run revolutionary it keeps saying waiting for device??
[HTC Sensation] ajaysinbeast:
happened to me also but then i checked and found fast boot was not unchecked in seetings-power-fastboot
[HTC Sensation] j_rahman07:
Fast boot was unchecked every time I tried it. Still didn't work.
[HTC Sensation] ajaysinbeast:
have you installed htc usb drivers see post 1202
[HTC Sensation] j_rahman07:
No I have not let me try that. Thanks for your help.
[HTC Sensation] j_rahman07:
What do I do have to do next after I download the USB drivers?
[HTC Sensation] ajaysinbeast:
you just unzip them and when you connect your sensation to your pc and it asks for drivers you point to them, if does not install them automatically

for more details go to the link provided in post 1202
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
There are steps here of what to do with the files once extracted from the download. Unfortunately these are not in a nice .exe format to install themselves automatically.
[HTC Sensation] eden1988:
Is your CWM 4.0.1.4 the latest? Cause I flashed it in fastboot and rebooted, then tried charging with phone off, the leds kept blinking from orange to green intermittently. It just feels weird because I flashed the one you provided with the link.
[HTC Sensation] j_rahman07:
how do i point the drivers to the temp folder?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Replied to your PM ;)
[HTC Sensation] nintendolinky:
Does this unlock the phone also
[HTC Sensation] ajaysinbeast:
got s-off and perm root. but when tried to supercid, my pc is not showing my device. installed adb tools. got command prompt. but after the command adb devices, it says list of devices attached but no serial no. or anything under it.

can anybody help?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Do you still have usb debugging turned on?
[HTC Sensation] ajaysinbeast:
no, but another question do i need to change the cid to install custom roms?

got both answer now my sensation is showing and also only step 1,2,3. needed for custom roms. thanks.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
You will need usb debugging switched on to connect to adb.

No, there is no need for super cid to install a custom rom.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
AFAIK it doesn't, so if you're locked to a particular operator you will still need to get them to unlock your device
[HTC Sensation] Jimmy Flip:
Not necessarily, there's some commands in the eng hboot (not Revolutionary's) that might help with this. If anyone with a simlocked phone wants to flash the eng hboot, go into fastboot mode, then paste the output of the these commands, we might get something:

fastboot oem readsimlocktype

fastboot oem listsimlockcode

I don't take any responsibility if you want to flash the eng hboot. There's a chance of bricking. It works with my ROM (1.35.707.1) and according to the thread, all other ROMs/radios that have been tried so far (I think - I didn't read every post):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
[HTC Sensation] prank1:
My phone is factory sim-unlocked, and I have both Radio & ENG S-OFF

C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\tools>fastboot oem readsimlocktype

...

(bootloader) size: simlock = 4256, password = 96, unlock_record = 256

(bootloader) simlock type: 0

OKAY [ 0.021s]

finished. total time: 0.021s

C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\tools>fastboot oem listsimlockcode

...

(bootloader) listsimlockcode [type]

OKAY [ 0.025s]

finished. total time: 0.025s

The format of the second command is fastboot oem listsimlockcode type

So I put this:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\tools>fastboot oem listsimlockcode 0

...

OKAY [ 0.024s]

finished. total time: 0.024s

Here are some (maybe useful) fastboot oem commands I found relating to SIM Unlock.

fastboot oem readsimlocktype

fastboot oem enablesimlock

fastboot oem addsimlockcode

fastboot oem clearsimlockcode

fastboot oem listsimlockcode

fastboot oem clearunlockrecord
[HTC Sensation] ToddeSwe:
I've got a life beside the phone ;) I realy don't have the time to flash when new versions is poping up once a week. :)
[HTC Sensation] Pikaraph:
S-Off is OK for me, thanks !

But I'm stuck with ClockWorkMod : I followed the steps --> copy to the root of my SD-card, boot in hboot, there I see recovery, when I select it and press power it shows me a black screen with a phone in the middle with a red exclamation point...

What am I missing ?

PS : it never asked me to press volume up to accept " Do you want to start the update"...
[HTC Sensation] prank1:
The red exclamation point means CWM wasn't installed.

Try installing ROM Manager from the market, it has an option to flash CWM recovery from within android.

Or you can flash recovery.img using fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

Note that the above command will only work with either ENG S-OFF, or with a -Revolutionary- bootloader

If possible I would recommend you do the fastboot option, and flash the new recovery (provided by OP), this recovery has the charging issues fixed despite it having the same version number as the previous AlphaRevX recovery which had charging issues
[HTC Sensation] potblack2win:
My program crashed as well as I pressed Y for clockwork recovery. Now I am unable to S-Off my phone using revolutionary method.

I get this message:

Is there any other way I can achieve S-OFF
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
It's already S-OFF, as you have bootloader 1.17.1011. Check in the bootloader. It does the S-OFF BEFORE flashing the recovery. So if you pressed Y to get recovery, it was obviously already S-OFF.

Just flash recovery from the OP.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Yh. Go into the bootloader menu. It will tell you its s off
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
That will install the clockwork recovery which supposedly has problems.. best is to download it from op and flash it..
[HTC Sensation] prank1:
Yes, that is what I said at the end of my post..
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
The wife has being saying this for ages.. now I think it has finally come true.. I NEED GLASSES

LOL
[HTC Sensation] prank1:
lol :p

10 char
[HTC Sensation] ruleamsterdam:
Does anyone know a reason why i wouldn't be able to see flashable zip's in recovery? CWM and root went fine afaik but after reboot and remove the PG58IMG.zip i go to "choose zip from sd-card" i only see the folders, not the su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip i need to get permanent root.

Any ideas?
[HTC Sensation] k.aalai:
Might sound silly, but did you scroll down?
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
Assuming you have copied the SU file on to your SD card ;)

You say root went fine and u say u want to install su? :confused:
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
scroll down where?

on the screen.. u flick finger upwards.. in the recovery u use vol up and down button.. on the pc you us the mouse to drag the side bars downwards.. in life... hmm well.. in life you dont need to do anything.. it will scroll!!

:D :D
[HTC Sensation] ruleamsterdam:
Yeah sorry, i meant installing CWM...but nvm, i'm officially an idiot! Your other post gave me the answer...SCROLL DOWN!!! :D

Meh...i do get an error message for the su file now, will try redownloading and copying it again
[HTC Sensation] fredrick90005:
Guys, i installed CWM, S-OFF, superuser, root 3 days ago. Now my phone is not charging, battery is drained. Is there a fix to this??
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
:D No need to download again.. it took me more than 1 try.. for me third time lucky... first two installation aborted..
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
Dude.. one search and it got me right on the target :P

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1198585
[HTC Sensation] ruleamsterdam:
got it....first ROM installed :)
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
try removing and reinserting the battery.

Charge for 20 minutes

remove and reinsert the battery again

Try powering on
[HTC Sensation] radiikal:
Still unable to charge with latest CWM

Hi!

thx for putting up a guide! that was a brilliant guide!

ok...in my case, the battery still doesn't charge, even with the latest CWM u posted. after root the phone, it charged fine, for 1 day. then today, i decided charge it while its on 50%. Took a nap for abt 2 hrs, surprised to find that battery was down to 20% and the charging light is on,and the indicator was in charging mode. turned off phone, charge again, LED light is up. 5 min later, on the phone, battery was still at 20%. recharge again with phone on for 10 min or so (can't remember), battery is still at 20%!

so i unroot the phone, remove CWM, reflash stock rom, and it's charging fine again!

which means, in my case, all the charging was "fake" charge...

any one else has this issue?

thx!
[HTC Sensation] fredrick90005:
Tried that, now sliced up one of my spare usb cable and charging the battery manually. i thought the new CWM fixed the battery issue??....i used the 4.0.1.4. Is the 4.0.1.5 will fix this or it still has issue??
[HTC Sensation] r3awak3n:
Also want to say thank you. Wanted to do this for a while but had not had the time. It worked great and the guide is noob proof. Had a problem installing su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip through clock but i eventually got it worked up using ur other method. Thanks man. Still have to test the charging the battery but i guess there are tons of solutions out there for it.

Gonna install my first rom soonish. thanks again dude.
[HTC Sensation] fredrick90005:
Now my phone turns on, i plan to revert it back to stock...what is the safest way to do it? Which guide? thanks
[HTC Sensation] sabwafare2001:
Didn't read through the whole thread to see if this has already been posted. Thought this may help some who is having trouble using revolution to get s-off after installing correct drivers, uninstalling HTC Sync and getting stuck on Acquiring Root(Method 3).

I noticed after plugging in phone to PC Win7 installs MyHTC. After running revolutionary, I get stuck on the step above. After uninstalling, restarting PC and then plugging in the phone, Win7 installed MyHTC again without letting me manually choose the drivers.

My solution to this problem was to uninstall MyHTC again, open the directory Windows\System32\drivers. Drag the drivers files from the OP and put into this directory. Replace all files windows asks you to replace. Now plug it in and Win7 should not automatically install MyHTC since the drivers are already found. Revolutionary should work after that.

I tried to enter gpedit.msc in windows to disable windows from automatically updating drivers but had difficultly doing that. That is my reason for "forcing the drivers.
[HTC Sensation] marken:
[help]

hey guys i got my sensation today and i decided to make root but my bootloader version isn´t compatible with revolutionary, what can i do now?
[HTC Sensation] antonyslater:
Amazing work . . . Thank you all ! ! ! !

I really don't know what else to say other than THANK YOU!!!!!! You have set my Sensation free to be the phone it should always have been!!!
[HTC Sensation] drew_grant:
Still no support for Mac users? I have a feeling by the time that happens, HTC will have their own method out for the public. Damn, am I getting impatient here...Anyone have any news on that yet?
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
I want to install cwm 4.0.1.4, but how to we do this? It's not the same as flashing a zip file.

I'm running 4.0.1.5, but having the charging issues.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
have u tried step 2?
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
what is your bootloader version
[HTC Sensation] marken:
my B.L version is 1.35.161.2
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
that isnt your bootloader version that is your rom version.

to find your bootloader version. go to the bootloader screen

take out your battery and put it back in, keep hold of volume Down + Power button.

in bootloader you will say it says

Pyramid PVT Ship S-ON (or S-Off)

the it will give you your hboot version
[HTC Sensation] marken:
really sorry for that man, my bootloader is 1.17.0011
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
1.17.0011 IS SUPPORTED by revolutionary, go to their site and get yoru beta key
[HTC Sensation] radiikal:
any idea, anyone?

thx
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
Try the recovery from the rom manager.. 4.0.1.5..
[HTC Sensation] radiikal:
i used 4.0.1.5, cant charge but luckily HTC replaced my battery without question.

then i used 4.0.1.4, can charge initially but the next day, give "fake" charge issue...

pls look into this issue cuz i'm dying to set my sensation free...

thx again for your help!
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
here is a work around.. flash the stock recovery and charge it..

But why do u have to turn off your phone to charge..?
[HTC Sensation] Beck:
hi ikhzter, i am wondering currently my sensation is having the old 4.0.1.4. can I just install the updated version of 4.0.1.4 that is provided in your #1 post and how can I go about it?

my hboot version is 1.17.0011
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
Your Hboot should be .. 1.17.1011.. assuming you have an S OFF

Yes.. just place the file onto the root of the card and boot into the bootloader and apply the update..
[HTC Sensation] dragonglance:
Sorry if this has been posted/asked already but am just trying out different roms at the moment seeing which I prefer and I just wanted to know what is the best most stable way of doing this?

What I am getting at is it best to do a full wipe.before installing a new ROM? If so what are the steps as at the moment I am just wiping cache in cwm before installing new ROM

Cheers guys
[HTC Sensation] potblack2win:
When will a updated CWM be released.?

Is it worth going back to the Stock Recovery.?

I can charge my phone when its off with the latest CWM. I am still yet to test this on a dead battery (not taking the risk)
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
I suggest if you are merely upgrading from 1 version to the next with roms from the same dev, you should be fine doing the cache and dalvik wipe. However if switching between devs it is probably advisable to do a full wipe. Go to the Android Revolution HD thread, there you'll find a tool called Super Wipe which you can use to do a full wipe.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Yes you can
[HTC Sensation] skinniebone:
help mine is just stuck on acquiring root method 3
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
You need to close down any pc app like HTC Sync or DroidExplorer that syncs automatically to your device.
[HTC Sensation] skinniebone:
how do you turn off htc sync.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
I don't have it installed, but I guess in your bottom bar there should be the option to right click and exit/close it. If not, you can also just uninstall it.
[HTC Sensation] marken:
hey guys now i have another problem, revolutionary accepted my code but stucks in aquiring root, i tryed everything but stuck here, anyone have any idea?
[HTC Sensation] skinniebone:
when it asks me if i want to flash clockmod recovery do i say yes or no. thx in advanced again.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Exactly the same as I have just answered over the last 3 - 4 posts. Read much?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Choose No and follow step 2
[HTC Sensation] vinnyjr:
Running like a top

S-Off, fully rooted with super user, titanium back-up all set and of course adfree is downloaded as well. Backed up my roms before and after root so I guess I will try one of these hot roms. Thanks Ikhtzer for all the work you did for this phone. Everything worked as you described. I took my time and went thru all that was written a few times before I even started the process. Very smooth process. :D

I would hope Rom Manager gets the latest recovery fixed. I understand you can not charge the phone while it is off ?

Thanks again Ikhtzer.
[HTC Sensation] marken:
hey sorry man i´ll read your last posts but you have to understand no body have so much time to read 129 pages, anyway thank you so much
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
This was also on the 1st page ;)
[HTC Sensation] skinniebone:
sorry to bug you again but for some reason it doesnt ask me to update the image once i go to hboot.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
What is happening? Did you copy the PG58IMG.zip file to your sd card root. When you boot into bootloader you it should detect the image and ask you to press vol up to install.
[HTC Sensation] skinniebone:
never mind got it. thx again.
[HTC Sensation] PG101:
Change of heart?? good man!! :)
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
:confused::confused::confused:

I've been punting the updated 4.0.1.4 for a long time now and been using it from the moment it was announced here.