yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
After reading up on it, it seems "beats" is a fancy independent audio chipset combined with special "beats" headphones. The "special sound" that you get from it is basically a dsp preset that's been set up specifically for the beats headphones.

With that said, all you could really port over from it would be the dsp, but you can find tons of those for free on the market (which many people have reported having better flexibility of sound than you get with beats). Viper included dsp manager with Viperrom 1.3, which is basically the same idea of software.

Everything else is hardware. I don't think the Evo3D sports the same audio chipset, and even if it did, you would have to buy the special beats headset to get the true effect of it. If the Evo3D doesn't have the same audio chipset, all you'd be getting is a dsp from beats, that wouldn't sound as good since you're not using the proprietary hardware it's intended for.

To me, it seems like a gimmick. I would most likely replace it or remove it if I saw it on my phone. The audio chipset seems nice, but like I said, if we don't have the hardware, there's no point in getting the software, IMO.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
With all that said, I'm pretty sure I saw/read a post about enabling the beats audio with a few script changes. I've been told by a friend that it actually is a noticable difference in sound quality (richer bass for instance). Once viper gets me some more of what he's working on, I'll begin working down our google code (requests) page, and seeing what can be implemented/improved.
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
This may be the beats mod. Among other audio mods. If anyone else was interested in it.

[HOW-TO] [TEAM XPOSED] HTCMusic MODs
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Thanks man. I'm pretty sure is also seen one specifically about the beats audio too, i'll have to look for it tonight when I get home (search sucks on the xda app)
[HTC EVO 3D] simosezj:
Here's the beats mod

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1253447
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Beats mod does NOTHING. It just enables different genre eaualizers. Now, the dolby digital mod is where its at.

#SWAG!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Thanks! Thats the specific thread I was referring to
[HTC EVO 3D] davec1234:
There is a noticeable difference for sure even on cheaper equipment.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I ran astray the other day anD purchased an epic touch ..although it was nice I ended up returning it since I thought the e3d was just easier to use and overall better experience one thing that the epic did well was the music player ..it was much much louder when using headphones and sounded great ..I wish our evos could get that loud
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Well after countless hours last night, I built the test RC2 and it didn't boot. Ugh. I told Vin, I'm pretty sure I know why. I downloaded the ROM.zip from the RUU from here and when I tried to open up that PG86IMG file, windows wouldn't open it but 7zip would. I think something in there is corrupt, unfortunately. So I'm in the process of starting over, AGAIN, and going from there. This version hates me alot lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Whats an eta?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
hahahahahahhahahhaahahahahha....ohhhhh me
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I read that from my Gmail and my face literally frowned and I was about to flame the **** out of whoever posted that... and then I saw it was you hahaha
[HTC EVO 3D] Anonamoose:
Ok I've requested donated and posted every freaking page....

WHEN WILL VIPERROM BECOME SELF AWARE AND MAKE ME COFFEE?!

Seriously skynet could do it in the mid 90's on a celeron ship for christsakes.... i want's my self aware 3D noawz!

All jokes aside I cannot wait to see the new rom esp the new vipercontrol mod... keep of the great work and the trolling of one another this last page has been hysterical lol
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
let's hear it.

that vin guy always causing trouble !
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Play it again sam....
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
i really think it would be cool to implement the beats into the rom that way i can get rid of my ipod touch all together. haha jk.

sort of off topic here, but where would i move a bootanimation that i downloaded on this rom? i know it varies from rom to rom so i wasnt sure.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
God I can't wait for work to be over! I just wanna get this test build done! You should see the viperROM init.d file and build.prop, I've implemented a TON of tweaks. Also, I'm thinking of going EXT4 on /data, /cache, and /system, that greatly improves I/O - downside is that /data will be formatted when flashing so you all better get your apps backed up :p
[HTC EVO 3D] INebilim:
hell yeaaa! i cant wait for tha crispy vipermod for our e3ds ;}
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Sounds good! I didn't know you could restructure the system partition tables! I thought the partition tables and mbr themselves were read only. Good to know that it can be modified! Good luck! I look forward to the changes and improvements!
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
Don't the Apps already get formatted when we flash a new rom anyway? Sounds wonderful though. I literally have not flashed a different rom since I got my evo 3d at launch.

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[HTC EVO 3D] hchavarria:
Glad to hear an update is coming soon, I also haven't flashed anything else since I flashed Viper when it was released.
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
Some apps run from sd and also not just your apps but movies and whatever else is on your sdcard, if the installation does any formatting to the sd card it will likely reformat the whole sdcard or at the least, some part of it. (Wild Guess) Dealt with ext4 partitions but never on an sd card or phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
When you do the ext4 io tweak it's simply a different set of format options for /data and /system and cache, but those get wiped normally during ROM install anyhow if you're doing a full wipe). So in order for it to work, /data would have to be formatted during the ROM installation, which will nuke all your apps/apps data. Anything moved to SD card will be in .android_secure, but none of it will work since some of the settings (and pointers) are in /data anyhow, and you'll need to restore/reinstall anyhow. This particular set of tweaks won't touch the SD card at all.

The only caveat is that until/unless TWRP/CWM change their default format methods, if you use the normal wipe in your recovery you'll have to re-do the ext4 format for /data, which means that you'll need to do a full wipe/restore anytime you use the recovery wipe methods. There is a thread here someplace on how to do it and retain your stuff and I wrote a no-wipe script for Synergy that backs up your stuff, formats ext4, and puts it back for you, but either of those methods take awhile. It's actually EASIER (in my opinion) to accept the full wipe method and restore everything.
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
OIC, so the ext4 modification isnt actually on the sdcard but on the phones system/storage memory? I think i read something about ext4 b4 but it must have been in regards to extending the system memory onto the sdcard which probably isnt necessary with todays 1gig+ internal phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] xcopmanx2:
Make us format for EXT4, that's okay with me.
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Correct - the method viper is talking about doing will affect internal storage, not the sd. Most methods I've heard of were done on sd cards to basically get more storage space for apps. But if the partition table on internal memory can be modified, then it's definitely something worth doing.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I'd much rather prefer the ROM to do the EXT4 wipe for me.

If nothing else, instead of creating two ROM zips for both cases, why not simply create 2 updater-script files? Have the default updater-script (no data wipe) be already in the ROM zip, and just upload a copy of an updater script that basically does a "superwipe" with EXT4. Those of us who know how to use a ROM zip will know what to do with that updater script.
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
damn i guess i betta brush up on EXT4 before i head into this version....i dont even know what the hell it does LOL.....
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
It's just a disk format. Think of the windows change from fat32 to ntfs. Of course Linux partitions are much better than Microsoft, but it's essentially the same type of upgrade.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Well..yes and no. I don't personally have a problem with forcing a full-wipe to install a new ROM. Cuts down on any problems related to not wiping /data (/system is usually wiped in the updater anyhow). What I think I'd prefer to see (and I'm not sure how to do this, though I suppose I could probably figure it out) would be a partition check to see if the options are already present. Wipe it not, ignore if they are. I think I'll look it up. Anyhow that gets around the issue of having to wipe between minor versions, aside from cache/dalvik. Of course if you're the kind of person that always wipes whenever flashing a new ROM you won't care either way since you'll be doing a full wipe anyhow.

Now, once TWRP is updated, according to TrevE, they're going to be instituting the new formatting ext4 scheme so that a full wipe will AUTOMATICALLY do those tweaks to /data /system /cache, which means a full wipe won't mean having to format your data partition twice (once for the wipe and once for the ROM install).
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
ohh i thnk i get it....im prolly just repeating what u guys are saying LOL (MY BAD if i am) so basically its gonna be easier so wipe eervything before we install a new ROM?....instead of using a SUPERWPIE or something like that?.....you use the EXT4 then install the ROM or whateva and yur on yur way?....sorry if that sound ridiculous LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
I think the way Viper is setting it up is that it's going to do the full wipe FOR you when you install his ROM. I'm just basically thinking out loud about optional ways to do that and I believe LS is as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
ahh i see....well that was eaier to undertand that i thought it was going to...alright cool, thanks man
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
We're going to make it as complicated as possible
[HTC EVO 3D] iCaptivate:
This ROM hasn't been update in a month and half. What's going on?
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Read one page back and on.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
.....really??? Man. Some people.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Do your worst. I can still understand it. :)

Having said that it looks like you can do a parted /dev/block/mmcblk0p24 print all to get a list of all flags on the /data partition. Shouldn't be too rough to use that to determine whether or not it's been optimized previously. Still researching (not very hard, I admit) though. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
you have to pass the bill to see what's in it ...

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dumb question, but isn't the 3d hardware fast and good enough to use as is ?

i could understand the gyrations you had to go thru to get sense 3.0 elements to run on the evo, etc. but it seems like the 3d has ample horsepower and storage, etc. ... no ?

i know i should read up on that, but i can't right now. so i'm asking...

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Jets are getting their butts kicked

buffalo, yes buffalo, is 3-0 !

green bay rolling, and lot's more ...
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
Is data corruption still a possibility with ext4? If so 1.3.4 will definitely have to live up to the Fast&Stable creedo.

On a side note, +1 to vin and viper if they were to put a red notice at the top of the OP stating to please not ask for eta's updates, std's or pms's regarding this state of this rom as other rom devs do. Unless your name is Vin and your in a mock troll vibe.

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I think ext4 would give a marginal increase in performance, but any added performance is a + so long as it far outweighs any negatives. And plus it would be in line with the "Fast&Stable" that this rom has shown itself to be.
[HTC EVO 3D] iCaptivate:
What's the problem bro?

I wasn't complaining, I don't even use this ROM. I was just wondering if Viper was having any personal problems or something and if that was the reason as to why it hasn't been updated.

Take a lap.

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Wait...what?
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
And it would have taken just a few seconds to read through the last few pages to answer that question and understand why everyone is getting so irritated when people ask that question.
[HTC EVO 3D] iCaptivate:
How was I supposed to know that was the subject at hand in the last few pages?
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
It's not 'needed' specifically but if we can suck more performance out of our hardware without spending more money, I'm all for it. Plus when I was running Synergy I DID notice real world benefits...some of the lag I get (minimal, to be sure, but still there) with Warm 2.3 just didn't exist with Synergy and those same ext4 tweaks.

Marginal in terms of quadrants and benchmarks, sure. But not in real world use. It made a big difference for me (note: everyone's phone is different, what works for me might not for you, etc, etc) when I was using them. As for stable it's STILL a journaling FS so it should be able to handle crash recovery just as well as ext3 does.

And ext2 doesn't have journaling at all (as far as I'm aware...might be different on Android then in Linux) so it's technically more recoverable then ext2.
[HTC EVO 3D] davec1234:
Cocknozzle
[HTC EVO 3D] davec1234:
If you don't use the rom why so butthurt?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Uhh, by reading...
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
I mean, I wanna sure my sd card isn't gonna get formatted? I mean is it internal or what? I've never worked with ext4. .__.

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[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Your SD card will never be touched via a ROM install (unless the dev has gone psychotic) unless you specifically wipe it or partition it through recovery. What Viper is talking about will most definitely NOT touch your SD card.

Internal memory is what we're talking about.

SD card, even though technically 'internal' in that it's not a slot on the outside of the phone is still considered external memory.

Ext4 is just the type of filesystem that's used in internal memory (linux filesystem). Your SD card is default formatted to FAT32 (a windows based filesystem). You've worked with ext2/3 before if you've ever flashed a ROM in the past, it's the same thing, just updated.
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
What's up bro?....hows things going guy?.....
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
+1

Read at least 2-3 pages... Or at least scan threw them for the name of the op, and see what he's posted. It takes less than 5min, and then you don't waste space in a thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Things have been good. How about you, and what happened to you going to the ET4G? Haha

I also keep checking this thread for updates, but lately it's been full of a-holes.
[HTC EVO 3D] mptherealmp:
By reading the last few pages? lol.

V&V, Very excited to see you'll be updating soon. Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Haha....u know what happened.....yeah I really wasn't enjoying it....most think I'm crazy, but I really missed my 3D as soon. As I left the store.....and all my buddys of course....the forums were even worst....but anyway, nice to hear things are good....looking forward to jump back into V's work....been too long now ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
hows the rework going viper?!
[HTC EVO 3D] wildcatswr5:
Please see pages 2 - 575.

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HTC EVO 3D @ 1.7GHz running silverneedle kernel and viperROM :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] Techlyfe:
So sorry for the confusion, my previous journeys with ext4 info misguided my previous answer... Didn't realize, at the time, that what Viper was referring to wasn't sd formatting but specifically internal memory partitioning. Thanks again for the explanation smw.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Exactly right!

Life. That's what's going on.

Shouldn't cause any stability issues but that's why we test :)

Won't touch the sdcard, no worries there!

It's going. One of my mounting tweaks borked my test build. No root access, remove the init.d file and root works. I'm going to be testing it again here shortly.

LMAO!
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
I love everyone.

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[HTC EVO 3D] Gellenole:
That didn't work, attempted doing this before I event posted.
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
hurry hurry hurry!!!

or else im gonna hold my breath
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I have a proxy set up in my mms settings too. I don't know if the proxy is device specific or not, but if it's blank on your end, that could also be the issue.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
This thing is flyingggggg! :D Still have alot of work to do until it's perfect, but it's getting there!
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
<3

Can't wait! Thanks for keeping us updated!
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
:D :D Sweet!! Cant wait. Keep up the awesome work. I have been running this since the day I picked up my E3D and it hasnt missed a beat for me yet. Cant wait to see what goodies are up next for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Well, a sneak preview on some other goodies are:

Custom "Tiamat-Sense" kernel exclusive to this ROM(Tiamat 1.0.2 adapted for Sense)

Custom viperMOD exclusive to this ROM (will likely roll it into vC)

ROM is -100mv UV stock (with a reset.zip built into the ROM so in case it loops, it will automatically be on the sdcard)

More options in vC

50+ init.d tweaks

Custom build.prop tweaks

Much more to come, but I think that is a good start! And I'm going to hit every single item on the google code list once I get all the basic goodies in the ROM (CRT animation, overscroll glow, etc)
[HTC EVO 3D] jsnolasco:
amazing man, thanks for the updates!
[HTC EVO 3D] jgutz20:
Viper ROM Issues Experienced

Hey, so i've been using Viper on my Evo 3d for a while now, i absolutely love it but there has been 1 thing driving me crazy. Hang with me as i try to explain this please.

The device becomes completely unresponsive at times. The phone has never completely locked up/froze but i will be using the device and then the screen stops responding to commands. Whatever i was working on previously will continue to run such as if i'm in a phone call i can continue to talk, but i just cannot hang the phone up and i have to wait for whoever i'm talking with to hang up.

Sometimes the bottom buttons (menu, home, back, search) will be the only ones to stop responding while the rest of the touch screen continues to work, sometimes its those buttons and the rest of the screen.

When this happens, i can push the power button, the screen will go off and then i can turn it back on but then nothing works. Sometimes i am able to swipe the bubble from the bottom to unlock the phone and then it goes right back to where i left off with whatever app i happened to be using sitting on the screen stuck there.

If i try to hold the power button, the restart/turn off/hibernate etc menu will come up but obviously i am then unable to push reset or anything.

Most of the time i will have to pull the battery and sometimes it will eventually start working again.

I do not experience this frequently, i would say i can go 3-5 days without any hangups and then it may lock up a couple times a day.

From what i can tell, its not due to a bad app as it will lock up while in a phone call, playing a random game, using the facebook app, or even at the home screen. I think its something running in the background or just some glitch with the firmware? I have briefly searched to see if anyone else was experiencing this but did not see any so if this has been addressed sorry.

I am a person who donates to the creator/builder of the firmware i am using if i like it (Fresh Evo, Mik on my Evo4G) and i saw that Viper will have a special version for people who donate, any word on if this is available yet? There havent been any updates to the viper rom in a while.

Ohh and this was a clean ROM installation, wiped the phone etc. I have re-flashed the phone a couple of times and i tried using the phone for a few days with as little 3rd party apps installed as possible just to try and eliminate that as a source of this issue.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

**UNRELATED** When i use the gallery to try to view my pictures, it stopped rotating to landscape for some reason, i'm not sure if this is an option somewhere? but it means that i cannot view my 3d images properly. Is there a setting for this or is something else acting crazy for me?
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
You would be the first one who reported this. It sounds more like the screen is becoming unresponsive (capacitive buttons are part of the screen too, believe it or not) and it sounds more like a hardware problem with your 3D than software. You have done what you should and wiped and tried again a few times (assuming you did try wiping everything - /data, /cache, /system, and dalvik-cache). You may want to think about getting your EVO exchanged and maybe even try other SW to see if the issue is still happening.

As for the paid version of our ROM, we don't do that and I don't think anyone should. What you have seen in my signature is the viperMOD app that is under development :) it's for voltage modification on supported phones/kernels.

For your unrelated problem, try clearing data out of the Gallery app and see if that fixes it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
I have never had any of those problems either. I was going to also say a hardware problem but Viper beat me to it.
[HTC EVO 3D] cruise350:
What kernel are you using? A bad or incompatible kernel may cause the issues your seeing.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
Hey viper, can you confirm that on 2.3.4 the problem with icons going to generic after a reboot is fixed? I know it doesn't take long to switch scenes and fix it but it is very annoying.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
This has not happened to me yet, however, I don't use the Sense launcher but I will make a point to run it for a little and verify.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
Yeah it just happens on the sense launcher, from what I have read HTC acknowledged the problem and said it would get fixed in the 2.3.4 update. Thanks for checking.
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I used to have the exact same problem. It was craigsnotification (Craigslist app) that caused it for me. I reported it to the Dev, and he tried to blame my phone. I uninstall it, and never had an issue again.

So, my guess is that it's an app that's installed on your phone. That caused my issue, and uninstalling the problematic app fixed my issue.

For the gallery issue, make sure you have auto rotate on.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Going through the Google Code list and knocking them out as we speak! Any preference for font for the next build? I like Segoe but I was thinking of adding a better version of one that was posted in this thread a while back. Any suggestions or comments? Please post a sample of the font you are suggesting as well!
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
please use the one i gave you ;) it works great! no problems with reading the text

btw i had to go see what the whole beats audio buzz was about so i flashed virus' rom... sounds sucks... it was so much better with the default enhancements from stock... idk what the people that said it was amazing were smoking but i dont see it...
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
Just scrolling through the choices in word I kind of like these two:

Palatino Linotype

Plantagenet Cherokee

What do you think? They look pretty clean to me.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Oh, thanks for the warning. I was going to look into adding it to the ROM. Guess I will have to look at it. And I have the .rar file you gave me, but wouldn't I need the 3 .ttf files that usually get replaced? Or did you just replace all 3 with that on .ttf file and renamed it?

Those aren't too bad. I also looked here, I like these...

http://webdesignledger.com/freebies/20-super-clean-fonts-perfect-for-minimal-style-design
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
I used font changer app from market to change it... i guess it automatically changes all 3 to that... bold regular and italic all show up normally so im not sure how it ends up doing that...