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[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I'm not sure what it is, but my battery is utterly being destroyed. I flashed the ROM on a full charge...let my phone drain to 3% yesterday, then charged to full. Unplugged phone this morning (6:00 am, and was down to 13% by 11:15. Yes, that was with 2 hours or so of screen on time, but not playing games or anything...just checking xda/few texts.

I can't wait for us to get another ruu to build from...hopefully with new firmware/radios, becausemy phone doesn't seem to like the latest one. And I've tried a few other roms to, just to be sure it isn't specifically ours. Some improved battery slightly, but not enough that is consider it even remotely "good"
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
:eek: Thinking I might stay on RC1.3 then as my battery is great on that.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Make a backup and try the latest version. Just because my phone doesn't like the updates (HTC's updates, not mine and viper's) doesn't mean your phone will act the same way. Just don't update your firmware if you haven't already, as I still believe that is what my problem is.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
I havent updated any software/firmware updates from sprint. Going to back up all my stuff right now and give it a go.

Now in Titanium Back up should I just select Backup all user apps or do all user apps+ system data? I would really like it to save all of my app data so I dont loose anything. This is the first time I have used this really. Just always used my backup pro and started having issues with it. A lot of my apps would FC after restoring and I would have to uninstall and redownload them. Got to be a pain.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
If you make a nandroid backup (via recovery) all apps and app data will be saved incase.you want to return to your 1.3 version.

As far as restoring your apps and data into the redline version...I'd suggest just backing up user apps and data, especially since you're coming from Android 2.3 3...restoring system app data could cause instability and force closes
[HTC EVO 3D] onebenadams:
I have the paid version of root explorer and it won't delete read only files....
[HTC EVO 3D] onebenadams:
Full version of root explorer and it won't delete read only files...
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
Only option it gives is back up all user apps so I am going to assume it also includes the data for them as well. The system data I know can cause issues but wasnt sure how they have it in TB.

Nandroids are my best friend. LoL When in doubt I make a backup. I made that mistake once of not doing it back in my hero days when I got to used to things going smooth all the time. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Hey guys, just wondering, does your phones show this type of awake usage even when the screen is off?

I don't know if I ever seen that with 1.3, but I may just be paranoid after reading the above couple threads.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
Click the mount 'Mount r/w' button first.
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
My Backup Root is what u want... Completly restores all screens however I only use it if I'm flashing the updated Rom that I'm already on... Or if I feel like I need to reflash the Rom I'm on to fix something...
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
camera

what happened to the panoramic option on the camera in redline?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
The initial release of redline is mostly just a base, to test stability and whatnot for everyone.

I'll try to put together an update zip that will add in the "extras" tonight or tomorrow.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
So I just updated to Redline v1 and all I did in recovery is wipe cache and dalvik and started up and all my apps are still there and so far my setting dont seem to have changed. Maybe I got lucky. lol Then again I usually do a factory reset (wipe everything) so maybe thats why.

Love the new font and the boot screen for sure. Going to test drive it for a bit and see how it goes. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Ok, sounds great
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
thanks

any reason behind me dropping about 18 hours off of my battery by switching from 1.3 to redline?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Could be that your battery needs recalibrated for the new version. Or in my opinion, HTC dropped the ball on the latest version of Android and its not as power saving as Android 2.3.3 was
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I can tell you this much...every day I grow more and more tired of sprints terrible data coverage...I'm seriously contemplating changing carriers

It should not take me 10 minutes to update 4 apps (4mbs each in size)
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
If anyone figures out what is killing the battery lemme know. I am at school right now without my 3D. I will try to look at it tonight too.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
So its crushing yours too? And that's deactivated? (as in its not looking for signal)
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
In airplane mode yeah. So it's something in the ROM but I don't know what it is. Betterbatterystats didn't tell me anything useful. Maybe I should give up lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I'll figure it out! Maybe its not something in the ROM....maybe its something that isn't in the ROM....like something that you removed and the phone is constantly trying to find/run it
[HTC EVO 3D] mptherealmp:
I always wipe. lol

Seems to be working fine now on 3g. Must be a problem with my router.

Also, I can't seem to get good benchmarks out of the (2) available custom kernels.

Only the stock kernel seems to work well for me.

Since you are thinking of including the SBC kernel which is based on Net's custom kernel, I was wondering if you are seeing a drop in benchmarks?

Yes, I know that we shouldn't put much stock in benchmarks, but at the same time, I hate seeing lower scores OCed on a custom kernel than at regular clock speed on a stock kernel.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Did you install a kernel too? Did you install the init.d update? Check in About Phone and see if there is something in there running that shouldn't. Also, check Accounts and Sync and see if you have an account that is trying to sync still. Lastly, search xda for BetterBatteryStats and see if you have something causing wakelock.

If everything looks good there, clear your battery stats and do a recalibration. Easiest way to do that is from the Battery Monitor Widget app, press Menu > Statistics and clear them. Fully discharge, fully recharge, fully discharge.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I haven't benchmarked on this kernel. Give it time, it's still early and I know in RCmix kernel, the multiplier was off (not sure if fixed yet). I could care less if this ROM scores a 9 in Quadrant, if it's smooth, lag-free, and has great battery life I'm not going to worry about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] INebilim:
there is a trick to getting it to work what recovery do you have?
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I threw the screenshots that #Winning# took into PS and made a little something for the OP. Also, many people have been telling me to get my PayPal working, so I did. If you want to donate, I would really appreciate it! Also, please leave me the info for your Market email in the donation so I can keep track of it - anyone who donates $5 or more will get a free copy of viperMOD Pro when it is finished! Thanks again!
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
Twrp.....just flashed but didn't take?
[HTC EVO 3D] mptherealmp:
I know the ROM isn't the problem because I have no problems with it and Quad/CF score high with the included (stock) kernel. I just wasn't getting the same results from the custom kernels.

I'm running the stock kernel now with no issues.

Great Rom, thank you, looking forward to the next release.
[HTC EVO 3D] aznmode:
Is there a benefit using gingy task bar? I'm not really a fan of the flat taskbar look unless its beneficial.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
No, not really.
[HTC EVO 3D] aznmode:
Viper do you recommend using trpw recovery for your roms?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
There is no preference. If anything, it would be listed in the OP.
[HTC EVO 3D] JakedGr8:
this is the $hit bro, amazing!!!!! Two thumbs way up, it's root + everything else I wanted. This ROM is moving in a great direction :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
We're only going to make it better...with our own ideas and with input from people like yourself...

Ps: who is the moderator in this forum now? I want control of the 3rd post in this thread for mods and info!
[HTC EVO 3D] aznmode:
I notice in clockwork recovery I dont see an option to clear dalvik (unless I overlooked it) but tprw does and some issues brought up in this thread recommends doing both.
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
when youre in CWM you have to go under "advanced" and itll be there.
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
viper-thanks for being a great developer.
[HTC EVO 3D] lex_is300:
Luvin this ROM and the great battery life I am getting. DAEMON and ur script is working great lol. Thanks for all ur hard work...can't wait for RC1.3.

EDIT: Just wanted to throw in a thanks to Vinchenzop too. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
Anybody get this to work?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Thanks for remember the behind the scenes guy :)

What exactly is it?
[HTC EVO 3D] youngpro83:
What is sbc test kernal? Is it out to try?

Sent from my Beastly EVO.. And did I mention it has 3D?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Or....if there's any .9/m10 images that weren't edited right, the phone could be constantly trying to resize the image but it keeps erroring because the image isn't patched right....so its in a constant loop

Such as your lockring maybe?
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
Updated from RC1.3 to Redline v1 and this thing is murdering my battery and I cant see what would be doing it. Dropped from 50% to 14% in about an hour and that was only with some light text messaging then charged it up and its dropping like a rock just sitting there.

Going back to RC1.3 for now. Other then that I love it!
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Yea, I'm going to have to track down the culprit
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
At least in a couple months we will have ICS to play with..that is if you and viper decide to hang around that long *hopefully yes*

On a different note I have a quick question. I just flashed Test4, I did a nandroid of my Test3 setup. When I flashed over to Test4 I forgot to force a redo of my app data through TB and I lost most of my updated data to my apps. I want to restore my nandroid and get back to test3 and resave everything through TB. But I have some text messages I need to save from the last few days. Can I save my current texts through SMS backup and will they show up after restoring my nandroid of test 3? Never done anything like this so just wondering if anyone had an idea of how this will work.
[HTC EVO 3D] nicksmith4:
its weather, their are 2 versions of weather going and its using 30% of cpu. I tried to remove the apk but it broke sense
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Hey Vin, mine lasted about 18-19 hours. But I used to get like 24-27. I've been using the Fast Reboot app (which closes and restarts all the running processes) and just got into the habit of pressing it right before pressing the power button each time. I think that may have done something to reduce the constant processing.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Are you sure its not weather app, and say like weather widget or lockscreen?
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Yeah, I noticed weather in the battery use menu too, when I didn't see it in previous versions. But mine was using only like 3% though.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Where are you guys seeing it? In the about phone - battery info...our in like better battery stats?
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
In the about phone - battery info. When I get a chance, I'll screen shot it for you. My phone's off right now charging, damn calibration is taking forever.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I don't use any of the weather stuff (app, lockscreen, widgets), so it never seems to appear in my list...I may freeze it via TB as a test
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Here's the screenshot. Weather's still on there, but once again, it's only at 3%.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
I dont ever use the weather widgets or weather lock screen either so I never see that in my battery stats page myself.

I do use beautiful widgets but I know thats not the problem otherwise it would have killed it on RC13. and on my Hero.
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Yeah sad to say, the weather widget lockscreen is the only thing that I really like about Sense. I tried out aosp roms before and just didn't like how the lockscreens worked.
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
I like the Sense lock screen, Just dont use the weather lockscreen. I just have it set to use the wallpaper.
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Yeah, seriously, the Sense lock screen just.. well, makes sense.

I wonder if I were to switch out the weather lock screen to a wallpaper lockscreen, would it still show up in battery usage. I'm going to test it out and let you guys know.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Pretty sure it just turns into wallpaper...lol (in battery usage)
[HTC EVO 3D] btwei:
Yeah just watch, with my luck, it'd probably end up like that and I'll somehow use up more battery.
[HTC EVO 3D] zaner123:
I'm also having the Wallpaper battery use problem. I had it with the last viperrom build and it never went away, so I switched over to a different Rom. I see there is an update here, so of course I flash it! Same issue tho.

Battery lasts a few hours... :(
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
This is with pretty muchh nothing running.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/20111115145940.jpg/
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Yea, we can't have that...I'm going to have to do some extensive research
[HTC EVO 3D] Hippie459MN:
I let mine fully charge and an hour of just sitting lost almost 30% so back to RC1.3 for now. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Yea, I don't blame you...I'll track it down
[HTC EVO 3D] ulmo20:
Battery Life

I'm on redline and having great battery life. I'm using the weather lock screen as well. I know that i've flashed a custom lock ring, flashed a tiamat kernel, and used vipermod to undervolt it and lower the clock speed while the screen is off.

I pulled my phone off its charger at 8:30 this morning, at around 10:30 i looked at it for the first time and it was still at 99%.
[HTC EVO 3D] El Ducky:
I second that!
[HTC EVO 3D] Axe-08:
I remember on the last version on demand was the problem and after switching to smartass it was great.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Why does this happen to me?? lol
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
That was with a custom kernel though. Ondemand isn't keeping the phone awake, I think I know what it is though.
[HTC EVO 3D] El Ducky:
I'm not having amazing battery life but its not bad either. Getting about 10 hours. I also leave GPS, Bluetooth, and Wi Fi on.
[HTC EVO 3D] ulmo20:
sorry, didn't mean to upset you with my great battery life from your rom. I meant to say 'Man, my battery life is horrible with this rom. I pulled it off the charger at 8:30. At 8:45 it was completely dead!'

Does that make you feel better?:D
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
No lol I don't understand the inconsistent performance across these phones!
[HTC EVO 3D] avenger666:
it would be nice to have HDR effects on camera :)
[HTC EVO 3D] El Ducky:
Are you getting any problems like blank screen during incoming call?
[HTC EVO 3D] ulmo20:
You know I was. I read that post about installing a call recording app, which I did. I don't know if it worked, but I haven't had it happen in a week or so now.

And Viper, I was having bad battery life on Redline until I flashed the lockring and the tiamat kernel, then adjusted with vipermod, if that helps at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I've got one hunch In relation to the lockring causing issues...
[HTC EVO 3D] Axe-08:
I went from 99% to 32% in around 5 hours with No activity except to check the time at work.

:/
[HTC EVO 3D] NC-IL:
:mad::mad:I just got over 8 hrs with new ROM.:mad::mad:

without using phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Sorry I haven't been in thread much in the past few hours. I sold my Evo 4g today and the buyer requested it be returned to stock (unrooted/s-on)...was having some issues then it takes forever to flash 8 different radios/ruu's/zips to return it to stock...but one last RUU flash then its ready to be packed up for tomorrow morning's shipping
[HTC EVO 3D] El Ducky:
Well back when I was on RC2 Test 4 I was getting the blank screen on incoming calls so I installed the call recorder but to no effect. However, with all the inconsistency across phones who knows what does what...
[HTC EVO 3D] Xintros:
Viper, just wanted to say the ROM runs wonderfully. solid battery life and ZERO dependability issues. Thanks for the work man!
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
lol I forgot to tell ya that that was a 3500mah battery lol I wonder how long a reg 1700mah battery would last lol. Hope ya find out the prob man :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Willing to test a theory for me?
[HTC EVO 3D] I_Am_Lorde:
I flashed a custom lockring from the themes section. Is your theory about the stock viperrom lockring?
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Yes, that's the theory. It's all Vin's but I think he could be right. If something got messed up or corrupted when making the lockring, the phone could be trying to resize or adjust the image constantly, keeping it awake. I had great battery life on RC2.4 - but I used widgetlocker and froze the lockscreen so I think he definitely could be right!
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
yes, it is...you notice any sort of improvements?
[HTC EVO 3D] I_Am_Lorde:
*Edit* yeah flashing the custom lockring has seemed to help
[HTC EVO 3D] whatsleft4her:
Tight update so far viper!
[HTC EVO 3D] Axe-08:
I'm using widget locker as well just turned on easy wake mode that disabled stock one. Will report back details later
[HTC EVO 3D] Keyone:
Just saying that from full charge, I got to 4% after 5 hours of on time and 3.5 hours of active on time. This was not doing much other than texting and Foursquare check in. Phone was warm all the time. At 4%, I put it in airplane mode and it lasted for another hour and stayed at 4%. Seems like it has something to do with one of the radios?
[HTC EVO 3D] I_Am_Lorde:
Hey vin I was wondering if you would mind looking into cooking something up like that ikandee theme from the Google code page? It's a nice look with the colored menus and notification bar. If not its no biggie, just thought I'd ask
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
What lockscreen do you use, weather? It's not the radios, I drained from 100% to 0 in 5 hrs or so in airplane mode. Vin came up with a theory that the lockring included in viperROM might be corrupt. I think he might be right...
[HTC EVO 3D] Keyone:
I'm using the default and the weather screen. The thing I noticed was that once I went into airplane mode, my phone stopped being warm and at 4%, lasted for a long time. I'll check the lockring out. I'd prefer the original anyway lol.

Edit: Another thing is, I am currently using a 500mA charger. Out of airplane mode and the screen on not doing anything, the battery monitor tells me I'm still draining battery (the charger is providing less than what the phone is draining). When I put it into airplane mode (right now), it's actually charging at the normal current input. I'm still suspecting the radio or the control of it. I will still try out the lockring.

Edit 2: Actually, how do I get back the original lock screen? I'm still looking for it - if anyone knows it right away, that would be great.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Here's the lockring...flash from recovery...

http://db.tt/SAtRUdBH
[HTC EVO 3D] jhochst:
I flashed in recovery, but removed ring and was unable to get past screen. Had to do a restore.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Did you wipe cache and dalvik cache?
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
sure why not :-)

Flashing now. Ill let you know by 5pm today how well it worked.

Before I flash this just letting you know that for some reason my battery was always draining at about 800mah to 1000mah. Dont know if a lockring would do that would it?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
This would be best explained by understanding .9 and m10 images better...this is explained here....its a quote from the "intro to theming" thread that can be found stickied in the Evo 3D Theme and Apps forum. I've bolded the important note from "Jeffsanace"s quote

This constant "re- rendering" of the bad .9 or m10 (lockring images are part of m10 files) can cause the excessive use of the CPU. The reason I've considered this, was due to the high usage of lockscreen related CPU/battery usages that people were discussing yesterday

I'm not saying that it was 100% sure the issue, or that viper's lockring was even "bad", but it is a place to start
[HTC EVO 3D] santanac:
having horrible battery performance, hope the lockring fix works
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Vin, this was some very good work/research. I'm wondering if this was the problem back on RC2.4. But you know what this means, right? It means you now have to fix the custom lockring :D you do much better with theming and stuff than I do!
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Well, I've had the lockring "fix" installed since last night. It does seem to be "slightly" better than before, but this could be a placebo effect. We'll hold off until more people test it, and see what they experience. I've also got a pretty nasty wakelock atm...so I may just try a full rewipe/flash....modding the update zip to include the new/stock lockring and see if my wakelock issue gets resolved.

Also, put a screenshot of that pulldown i did for you last night in the viperROM folder, I'd like to see it, so I can know how/what changes would be appropriate
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Funny you asked that, I just posted it up on the E4GT forums as a preview.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19404748&postcount=1305
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I do decent work....I'm wondering if your dpi is causing the distored text on the "viperROM" too...

Where you at? home? work? school?
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Work, sir. I don't think it is, but I will mess with it later and take a screenie.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
right on. What time you done? I'm not sure if I'm going to do much this late morning/early afternoon...though I might. But I may just decide to dust off the guitar and jam out a bit
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Reflashed the ROM...full on wakelock...I'll look into later
[HTC EVO 3D] integra3g:
First off, I am still on RC2 Test 4, but I have 2 instances where my phone died extremely fast. I noticed the first one when my phone was in my pocket on the way to work and it was getting hot. When I got to work it had lost 30% in 30 mins and battery use said it was mostly from Facebook. I have no idea what happened, but I FC'ed Facebook and it was fine. The second time, I have no idea because it went from 60% to nothing in a couple of hours (which never happens) while at home in good coverage just sitting on the counter. Most of the time I get 8-10 hours with moderate to heavy use (mostly games). I also use the weather lockscreen and have not seen any problems with weather in my batter usage. Let me know if I can help.

Thanks and keep up the great work guys!
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I'm done at 4 but I am picking up my car from the shop today and I have some other running around to do. Probably going to grab the Kindle Fire today too lol

Ugh, sorry to hear. I have about had it with this phone. I can't blame anyone but me for the build, but still, it's very frustrating.

Hmm, odd. You can try the new build and see if it's any better!
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
Well with my 3500mah battery the update I have to give is I went down %20 in 4 hours and thats with minimal usage on internet and music.

So Ive came to the conclusion that this has fixed my problem a bit. Also It is now fluxating between 48mah and 500mah so thats way better than 1000 at all times lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] edgie168:
I, uh, have had "pretty good" battery life with ziggy's kernel, just to throw that out there.

I can actually go through a day with passive poweramp usage here and there (while driving) and moderate texting/tapatalk usage.

It's nowhere close to the kind of battery life I was having with the CM Alpha, but for a sense build it's "pretty good".
[HTC EVO 3D] Krairo:
How can I mod my lockring?

I tried installing the zip but it just glitched my rom by making the lockring disappear.

So far I've only tried it without letting redline boot up.
[HTC EVO 3D] kevinrocksman:
if im correct you have to let the rom boot up first then boot into recovery and then flash the ring