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[HTC EVO 3D] jerofld:
Ahhh ViperMod, how I've missed you. Synergy was nice, but meh. ViperROM has always been the best with power management.

Although I'm now in eye-candy withdrawl.

But everything has been working like normal. I was in a 4G spotty area, so not so sure about 4G. Been streaming Pandora over 3G to my bluetooth headset for the last 2 hours in a poor reception area and still above 70%. Plus internet browsing, installing apps, etc. That's just outstanding.

Nothing broken yet :)
[HTC EVO 3D] NegatedVoid:
Nice to see you again!

Are you going to include ad blocking by default again? If so, it'd be nice to add a script or app to remove it optionally. I breaks some apps like Hulu Plus :(
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I know what you mean and that would be a code rewrite for that, I'm sure. Not something I would know how to do to be honest.

Sorry about that, I will put vipermod in vC for the Final release.

You can't do that, the filesystem is different in your backup. Things will go wrong. Just use Titanium.

Yes, as a flashable zip. We will get one out for final release.

You're on the 1.50 HBOOT right? I really don't know much about that whole thing but I think you have to use a stock kernel right? Something about the HTC unlock not unlocking enough to run a custom kernel, right? If that's what it is, you should be able to flash HTCs kernel, right? Forgive me, I'm not up to date on this.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I tried adding the eye candy in a test build and it didn't boot lol something with either android.policy.jar or services.jar went wrong. Looking into it. Modifications to those 2 files give you CRT animation and 4-in-1 reboot. For the time being, flash one of Vin's themes! 3rd post. Good to know it's running well!!

Yes, by default it will be in there, but I will add an option in vC to remove it. Can you please create this issue on Google Code so I remember to add it? Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] guyandhisdog:
I know it's been talked about before but....

What is the significance of quadrant scores? While I was away from this rom, the one I was on kept referencing quadrant scores of 2400 and up and dual cores,etc. I averaged about 2250 on that rom --and al"amazing" battery life of 5 hours. Just out of curiosity, I ran this viperrom and got about 1750.

Not sure what the units are or what they mean

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
I'm going to steal this line from Cayniarb: Quadrant is just a random number generator lol yes, this ROM tends to bench lower on Quadrant. But to be honest, it doesn't really matter. I will almost guarantee that it's smoother than any other ROM out there. Quadrant isn't optimized for dual core anyway. Don't put too much thought into it.

EDIT: also wanted to say that with 5 hours of battery life, you probably were running a ROM with the dual core mod. This is why it's not in viperROM :D
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Ohh ok...np.....good thing I came in here before I tried it cause I would have been like "wtf am I doing wrong now?"...LOL....its all good

Edit.....I just entered vipermod in TE and it worked....imma lower the voltage by 25....I think u said lower it....cause of the random reboot I got...Ahh well ill give it a shot...
[HTC EVO 3D] xavier86:
Vin what's the difference between gingerbread with recent apps vs the no recent apps?

Edit: never mind I just figured it out. Brain dead today. My two year old was up very early and I got home from work very Late. My bad
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
No, RAISE!! If you're unstable, you need to raise!
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
You know the stupid recent apps in the pull down status bar? That goes bye bye!
[HTC EVO 3D] xavier86:
Actually I like using that better because its quicker for me to use the pull down then to hold the home button. Unless I'm gaming of course...

EVO 3D @ 1.7GHz [¦] ViperROM RC1.3 [¦] silverneedle v1.0 kernel [¦] Gingerbread Theme V4 [¦] 32GB PNY mSDHC
[HTC EVO 3D] guyandhisdog:
Yes and yes... That's why I'm back with yours!! Tried the rest, sticking with the best!

dual core, more like dual battery sucker

Edit...and that's after I calibrated battery
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Hey viper. Will using SetCpu to overclock cause issues with the ROM? Also, is there somewhere that explains how to use ViperMod and ViperControl? I've never actually used either one but would love to check then out.

Edit: Can't wait for no paginated app drawer! I absolutely hate it!

Sent by my Supercharged dual core from the 3rd Dimension
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Come on, man all that stuff is in the 2nd post, except vipermod, but just click in my sig. It's pretty self-explanatory though.
[HTC EVO 3D] xavier86:
Dual core is useless with apps that don't support it. Think about the six core intels and AMD phenoms, they have the ability, (for the exceptions of gaming, 3D design, and video editing)but software will never utilize the 6 cores and will only run as fast as its optimized. It's not uncommon for a program optimized for multi-core to run with the same performance as on a single core. With so much variation in hardware they need to program for a common compatibility. As a phone standpoint I want performance but also a 10-15 hour regular use. The EVO 3D is hands down the snappiest phone I have ever had. I went from an iPhone 4 to the EVO 3d not just because its an upgrade in performance but its also a major jump as the phones ability. I can do so much more so much easier with the android os then I could with the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 is a great phone. But even with jailbreaking your still restricted to the limitations of its OS.

And viper and vins ROM takes it to a higher level of performance, usability, and reliability. 5 stars on this one guys. I wish I could contribute.

Vin I flashed your gingerbread theme for the new ROM. It flashed perfect and it runs great. But I did notice the phone was a bit laggy on the first startup but it settles down.

Also I noticed with RC1.3 it took for ever to boot without fastboot. This release boots up so much quicker. I can't wait for viper to patch the reboot menu with recovery, bootloader ect. That was a kick ass idea and it was very handy.

Keep up the good work guys!

EVO 3D @ 1.7GHz [¦] ViperROM RC1.3 [¦] silverneedle v1.0 kernel [¦] Gingerbread Theme V4 [¦] 32GB PNY mSDHC
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
My bad. I'll check it out. I should have looked there before asking.

Sent by my Supercharged dual core from the 3rd Dimension
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I actually do not have wake lock issues with the alarm. I started by having serious wake lock with an app called noom, and also with friendcaster. I uninstalled noom, and it seemed to give me a few hours of battery back. I still have friendcaster installed, but it's also causing wakelock, so I'm debating on whether to keep it or not. I've also noticed that gmail and calender is causing some wake lock, but its very minor. It doesn't seem to be keeping awake all the time, at least.

As far as fixing the wake lock issues, I have no idea how to go about it. I'm guessing the wake lock is happening because the apps trying to remember to notify you about events, or from it syncing with online servers. So typically, to reduce wake lock, you want to reduce the frequency of syncing.

As for the alarm, I've heard it's been wake locking on a few people. Since it doesn't sync online, that can't be the cause. My guess is it's locking from keeping track of alarm cycles... So my suggestion to try to reduce it is this....

I believe the person who reported the problem said he doesn't use the alarm. And if that's the case, go into the alarm, erase the preset alarm times, then go into your app settings (settings/applications/manage/all) find the alarm, clear the cache out of it (I'm pretty sure doing the data will restore your preset alarms, so don't do that one), do a battery pull and reboot.

I don't know if this will fix it, but next to removing the app completely, this is what I'd personally try to fix it.

Let us know if this helps.

Edit: I just looked back at my wake lock status, and it appears I also have the alarm wake locking, pretty hard too... I'm gonna try to fix it, and I'll report back with a solution (in hopes that I find one)
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Alright, so I've done some research on the alarm manager wake lock issue, and this is what I've learned, in my own words, as simply as I can put it.

Alarm manager, first off, is not an actual alarm, per say. Its not even really an app. What it is, is a system process that allows (or sends requests to the processor) for the device to wake up from a sleeping state. That means anytime any app requests to wake up (such as syncing weather, email, Facebook, twitter... You get the idea), the request gets sent to alarm manager, and alarm manager wakes the device for the process to continue. Therefore, alarm manager should always be on the top of your wake lock list.

To verify this is true, you can add up all the total time all of your apps have been opened or awakened (minus alarm manager), and the total time should match roughly what alarm manager reports total. So this means you can use the alarm manager number to basically view total awake time, as a total from all your apps. To find the issue that causes the numbers to be so high, would involve looking at the next items down the list. In my case, it's friend caster constantly waking my phone for those "push notifications".

Hopefully this info helps gain a better understanding of what the information is that your actually viewing. The only way to reduce the wake lock from alarm manager is to do things like disabling sync on certain apps, or at least reduce the occurances of syncing.
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Yeah I know....Haha....that's what I meant to say....my bad....going food so far....man that vipermod is do easy to use....neva used it before....so that's what the app is gonna be like right....??????......thanks guys
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
Installed RC2 this morning through CWM, no problems flashing or booting up and everything is running fine so far. OC'd to 1512 MHz with no issues, did not mess with any other setting in vc. This thing really flies, its really smooth and everything is very responsive. Great work v & v, you really do set the bar with sense ROM's. I'm charging up phone to begin battery calibration, I will let you guys know if any problem comes up.

---------- Post added at 04:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:59 PM ----------

Since the issue has been resolved, let it be.
[HTC EVO 3D] dutchman22:
Test

Ok,

so i'm the kind of guy that wants to flash this rom and never have to underclock or overclock or open the VC or emulator or anything. I just want smoothness and ease of use + great battery life. That's one of the reasons i've loved being on this Rom so far. I'm still on RC 1.3 and it's the best custom Rom i've ever run. My fear is all of these tweaks may jack up later releases. I flashed the test build, but experienced boot loops and didn't want to flash the vu's zip's and all that. perhaps i'm lazy, but it's just too much trouble for me.

so i guess my question is when the release is stable and ready to go will it be clearly indicated as such, could a guy like me just sit back and chill and wait for the stable release? Or do i have to follow the threads while everyone works out the bugs? I haven't been lazy the entire time, i've ready alll 613 pages!!!!!

thanks for the good work viper and vin.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
This is a great post, thanks for this! You may want to create a thread in General about this, as it seems like this is a new thing in 2.3.4 ROMs. Thanks again for the research on this!

Even easier to use! The app is really nice, however, it FC's on the 3D even with a compatible kernel lol I think I know why, but I need to fix it.

Ok.......... enough.

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you like it! After a small chat with Cayniarb, I got into messing with some schedulers and if you guys wanna try changing them from vC, go for it! Makes a big difference, and even though I hate quadrant, it is good for seeing how a small change affects the phone for basic things like data read/write and graphics.

I have found that bfq seems to work the best and vr is pretty good too. Noop and sio are tied for next place and cfq and deadline seem to fall in last, according to quadrant. Again, I don't care about the score, but just watching it perform the test, you can see how much faster it does things with bfq. This will become the default governor in the next build. But try it out for yourself, just remember that when you reboot, you need to reset it. I intentionally didn't implement the init.d for it yet. That will also be in the next test build.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Remember, this is a test build, and the biggest thing being tested is the addition of vipermod and fine tuning of the vipercontrol so we can determine what the best default settings would be. So worry not my friend!
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
This will come off as rude thanks to it being text instead of voice and that's not my intention, so please take this in the spirit it's intended.

But yeah, you're lazy. :) There are ALWAYS going to be tweaks needed to get the best performance out of your ROMs. If you're content with having something that works 'well enough' there's no point in running anything but stock, honestly. The whole point of XDA is that things are always in development, nothing is ever considered 'perfect'. Viper and Vinch will do their best to make this stable and ass kicking without your having to touch anything...but if it doesn't work out that way you're either going to have to deal with it and run some REALLY easy scripts, or you're going to have to search for another ROM that does exactly what you want out of the box. Again, stock is probably your best bet, with a custom kernel or something.

For the rest of us, we want to tinker. We want MORE than we're supposed to get from our phones. We want to take the time to make it fit our personalities, make the phone fit our vision of what's perfect. I guarantee you that's different for me, than it is for you, Viper, Vinch, or anyone else.

I'm sure when they're done tweaking it they'll call it 'release'....but I wouldn't bet you'd never have to tweak it to get it exactly how you want it.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Well the bootloops came from the undervolt, assuming you properly wiped everything as instructed. The .zip you needed to flash was put on your /sdcard automatically when you flashed the test build. All you had to do was just flash the viperROM_75mv_uv and it would have fixed your problem. If you wouldn't mind, could you try that? This will help me diagnose and gather information about the uv. It seems that it needs to be raised for the base ROM, but I want to make sure that if you flash the 75uv that you can use it and have the ROM be completely stable there as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] Anon9mouz:
I just read like 27 pages since the update. So is there two updates out now or just the one so far. Well I guess I need to download but ima have to hit special k up to help me mod my icons again hehe. Yalls dudes is a beast.

So viper what exactly is IST and how much different is it from networking. And how much different is computer since from networking. I'm just wonder while its still early to switch up and goto something that involves networking, some programming and what not, so I could do what u be doing with the phones. Also im kinda interested about this IST bc of u saying no math foreal bc I suck at math. I'm at college level everything else but math and English. Math I'm in MAT 55 which got got like 65 to do and then I should be at college level. And my English I'm just this one behind. I ****ing hate math and after hear Vince the wizkid on math at a IQ of 165 that's ****ing retarded high and wish I was a genus just maybe I would be doing a lot better than I am now. Sucks when u go back to school and have done it for over 10 years kinda hard. I respect to see older guys and gals in the 40-50+ range doing it like it ain't ****. I just need to more insight. Been kinda slacking these past few weeks. Well sorrie for that rant thanks for the hard work yalls V&V yeah yeah lol
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Yeah there is 1 build out right now. New one in a day or two probably.

I can't explain the differences of IST vs Comp Sci very well, but check out Penn State's website and that should be a little more clear.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
quad score

I fully understand that quadrant scores dont mean much, and I am in no way complaining, but, I'm wondering if I did something wrong along the way. With other Roms I end up scoring around 3k and on stock I scored 2.2... however with the new test Im scoring 1.3k. I am currently OCd to 1.7 and wondering maybe if it's something to do with the voltage settings. If I could get any info on this I'd very much appreciate it. (I dont want to call it a bug since chances are it's something I did wrong, not the ROM haha)
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
Has the undervolting bootloops only happened when flashing through twrp? If so is it just hit and miss who has issues with it? Just wanting to know because I saw in the 1st post that there may be issues when flashing through cwm, but I saw someone else on here didn't have any problems and mine went very smooth. So I was wondering if anyone flashing through CWM has had the undervolting bootloops yet?
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
It could be the lowered voltage, but unlikely. Try using vC to switch governor to bfq. However, if you are looking to have a the highest randomly generated number in quadrant, you're using the wrong ROM. The numbers may not be there (because I don't build my ROMs to give me the highest quad) but the performance, stability, and battery life are.
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
Viper, just thought I'd let you know after setting my min awake speed to 384000 I haven't had any lock ups or issues. Right now, my settings are as follows, and seems fast and stable...

Using 100mv undervolt - no modification done to voltage table (other than what you did for undervolt, of course)

Min awake: 384000

Max awake: 1512000

min sleep: 192000

Max sleep: 432000
[HTC EVO 3D] gotrandom:
Its not so much the score I care about was just curious, when running quadrant it was insanely choppy all the times I tried so I figured I may have just setup something wrong when I was using vC I will try using bfq and report back my findings. Thanks for the quick response!
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Min awake @ 192 shouldn't cause a problem at all, RC1.3 was set that way. I am going to make a scheduler change to the next build and see if the 384 max sleep works better and doesn't lag. I have a feeling that should fix it, if not, I will bump the max sleep to 432 in the build after that.
[HTC EVO 3D] lufc:
Come on Guys Play nice and Keep this Thread Clean and on Topic No one wants to Read Pages of *****ing

Thanks Guys

A :)
[HTC EVO 3D] duble08:
I think the min awake affected it when the processor was placed under a load, as the undervolt might not have provided it enough power to jump threw the range as needed, and climb back up to the appropriate range. So by raising the min frequency while the phone is more commonly under a load, I believe it's not as likely to become negatively affected by the undervolt. We didn't see this issue in 1.3, because we weren't running the lower frequency band undervolted.

This is just what makes since in my mind. I could be wrong, but I believe this is why changing min wake time helped my problem.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Hey V&V question for you. I have a widget I use (especially when checking out new ROMs/kernels) called Temp+CPUv2. (Free version).

I flashed this ROM a little while ago and decided to run it 'stock' with VC, instead of using SetCPU like I would normally do.

Long story short: With Virtuous_OC I get the borked widget (-1 for the CPU speed, 100% cpu usage) and with SetCPU it works perfectly fine. You guys have any ideas why?
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
No idea man, email the dev because I don't think it's a ROM issue.
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
I don't think it's ROM related either. I think it's something with virtuous_oc...weirdest thing I've seen. I can repeat it at will...install set_cpu, works fine. Uninstall setcpu...blows up.

Just wondering if you had any insight on it. I've only used virtuous once or twice in the past.

This thing is super smooth by the way. Just calibrated my battery so I'll see how it does in a day or too. Nice job guys. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Yeah man, no idea to be honest. I guess virtuous hijacks something related to battery reporting.

As for this ROM sipping battery, I've had it off the charger 5 hours, took it off at 99% and I'm at 96%! Light usage, but it sleeps like a baby!!
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
It's not the battery reporting that's a problem. It's the CPU speed that's the problem. It's weird.

As for battery, we'll see. I've got a phone that seems to just GULP battery. Tried every tip/tweak/calibration strategy there is. Swapped batteries with my wife's Evo3D (same set up as mine, widgets and all) because she had no problems. Battery was fine in her phone, her battery died horribly in mine. I have no idea...I DO know that if I bother to take it to Sprint, they're just going to hand me a new battery and tell me to have a nice day, which won't fix it, since I already tested that.

So I have high hopes for this kernel/rom combo because..frankly..I don't want to buy and extended and carry a brick around like I did with the OG Evo. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Oh, I'm sorry, CPU speed. That's what I meant. I'm at work so I messed up lol you could try hitting up rmk40 if you want. He wrote it, maybe there is something that can be changed in the daemon? It's also open-sourced now if you're good in C.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
This is from today, and I haven't had a chance to properly calibrate
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Maybe I'll look. I can read C. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] thesparky007:
10.5 hours of battery time, 1.5 display time and I'm at 27%... Why cant I ever get the battery time everyone else does....
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
I feel your pain. Still calibrating but in the 10 minutes I was having a smoke and reading forums with tapatalk (good 3g signal, too) I lost 4% from 77%-73%.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Its hard to say because so many things can affect battery. Searching for signal seems to be one of the biggest drains on battery. Do you have everything syncing frequesntly? How is your signal? constant or in and out? Brightness set on auto-brightness or set to be constantly low? Gps always on? This could go on forever....lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Onethirtytwo:
=)

Awesome I hope this will improve my battery life like everyone else says...

Also i did an update when i booted bootloader not sure if it was the update we were supposed to install after we booted the rom up, but when i go into recovery and try and flash over that one it aborts. I'm not sure if this will affect anything or not... anyone know?
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
When you try to flash what from recovery?
[HTC EVO 3D] Onethirtytwo:
Yes when i try to flash the zip from recovery that was supposed to be renamed it aborts, but the rom is working fine thus far (~ 1hr)

When i went to bootloader after it booted up i couldn't do anything but either reboot, or update some stuff.
[HTC EVO 3D] xavier86:
Vin and viper. You guys mentioned this was more a test for vipermod one other thing. What do you plan on changing or including in the next build.

I started with a 99% charge. Now I'm down to 12% @8 hours of heavy use.

The last build lasted maybe 6 hours on heavy use. Watching 3d movies, using WiFi ans 3/4g, playing 3d games, listening to music and streaming.music through the Bluetooth to the sync in my fusion. I love it.

Everything works great and I havnt had any issues with it.

my only complaint is the power option.s menu. Im looking forward to having the other one in 1.3 back. I will be donating to you and vin next week when I get paid. You guys are doing an awesome job

EVO 3D @1.8GHz

32GB PNY Class 10

ViperROM RC2-T1

Cayniarbs Tiamat 1.0.3 Kernel Gingerbread Theme V4
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Make sure to do a battery calibration!

Just like the first post tells you, flash in bootloader.