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[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] consegregate:
What, but the general advise to sod had always been to check wifi always on...

XDA ♥
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] QNBT:
The topic been active in other threads so that's why the OP is taking this up I believe.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chinoyray:
I noticed that this problem is only for those who are using the older firmwares including XXKPH or the ROMs whose base are 2.3.4 KPH.

Haven't encountered this problem in the Samsung July 2011 release of 2.3.3 (KPN). But I guess, this is a good post for those who are still experiencing this.

For now, I'm just happy with KPN (that's why I'm not as active before here in the forums).
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kiudee:
Before I flashed to 2.3.4 KPH, my Wifi worked flawlessly.

Now my Wifi reception is extremely limited (I have to be in direct line of sight to the router within 2 meters to be able to get a stable connection)

and

I get those dreaded SoDs (sleep of deaths).

My question:

Is it possible to flash only the modem file of 2.3.3 to try whether that works?

If yes, will my current system be wiped if I only flash the modem file?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chinoyray:
If you don't use the video chat in Google Talk, then why not just flash 2.3.3 KPN?

The only new feature in 2.3.4 is the video chat in Google talk. Most bug fixes are now in the July 2011 release of 2.3.3 KPN.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kiudee:
Yes, I'm contemplating to do that.

But as I've spent a bit over a weeks time to set my system up, I would like to know if it's possible to just flash the modem without touching the already working system.

edit: I see KPN is a single file flash, so I won't be able to flash only the modem. Ok, backup and downgrade it is.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] plotinus:
I've only experienced SOD once... But I always have wifi off. Just on when I'm going to use it. Afterwards I turn it off and good bye SOD issue
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Dont know exactly, but I think that you can restore your system settings and other system things, with TITANIUM BACKUP. Backup the ALL SYSTEM DATA in batch menu. Go to TITANIUM BACKUP>Menu>batch. Pick: backup all system data and RUN THE BATCH. After that, flash you ROM(what ever you want) and try to restore all system settings from TITANIUM B.. Ofcourse, what ever happens, I suggesting you do NANDROID BACKUP from CWM recovery, before you start anything. If nothing works(or **** happens), you can RESTORE ALL FROM NANDROID BACKUP.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kiudee:
Update: I flashed 2.3.3 KPN and did a factory reset.

The SOD problems are gone now,

but

the bad wifi reception still remains. (Connection to router only works within an extremely close range)

If I cannot find a fix for this problem I might try out a froyo firmware.

Did anybody have a similar problem? Would really appreciate some hints.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

I think its not ROM-s problem. Try look your Router settings and phone settings. I think something is not right in PHONE or ROUTER settings. Not seen this kinde of problem YET, with ANY ROM. Try to look.

One question: dose you not DROP you phone or similar? I seen little problems can happen, even nothing SERIOUS was done(like speaker, wifi and other HARDWARE problems).

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Froyo will not help i think. I had all the mentioned problems in Froyo aswell. That's why i flashed to KPH and now KPN for eventually.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] QNBT:
From my 3 days experience with Froyo i never experienced SOD.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] shreyasvb:
I don have any sod problems.

BUT,sometimes my phone vibrates 3 times n then goes to Samsung bootlogo,den homescreen comes up n mediascanner starts.. :( (I ges this is called soft resetting)

Any solutions to get rid of this??? :(:(

M in stock froyo rom..

Any help ll b appreciated...

Thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] fdepride:
i had SOD with bluetooth turned on((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] turutk:
apps i downloaded are:

whatsapp

twitter

Facebook

im+ pro

dolphin browser

barcode reader

go launcher ex

my phone was rooted and running on 2.3.4 KPH. i had 3 SODs today but i never have any sods when i am at home. i have no idea which one(s) cause SOD.

today i flashed with coderom v2 (formatted sd and wiped internal memory and cache) i will see if sods keep on coming. if they do happen, then i am going to try KPN
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

First look your WIFI settings. If you have turn off WIFI, when screen is off, but NEVER TURN OFF WIFI, when screen is OFF! Hope it helps!

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] peeter123:
SoD happens when you have Wifi on and get out of range from your accesspoint. I can have Wifi on the whole day and everything works like a charm until I get out of range. Then lockup.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adil_yildiztr:
I think sod is moslty about wifi encryption. I have wpa key at home and no sods. But at work,parents house and friends house there is wep key and i am having lots of sods there.

Not just at home i have another wpa keyed routers and no sods there too.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] turutk:
same here.

so to test some workarounds for SOD i tried to shut down my router. i failed to have any SODs for an hour. maybe this was because i didn't wait long enough. can you give it a try if possible?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] JiiJii:
It is definitely a wifi problem. I turned wifi off, and no SODs since.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] downloadonlyaccount:
Same here. When i leave my house and the next time i want to look on the clock: SOD. Turning of WiFi in time befor getting out of range solves the problem, but it sucks to always keep that in mind.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Agree with you, just this is the case. We cant nothing yet, to this problem.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ztrindberg:
You could of course use Advanced wifi lock. That app is working. A workaround. Not a solution.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Jeah, there is of course several apps, what you can use to turn off WIFI. Just FIRST CASE: Look in your wifi settings and DONT PUT WIFI TO SLEEP IF SCREEN IS OFF

cheers! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Hee guys,

Had my first sod in KPN today! Bummer! After a week on KPN. My phone was in flightmode, turned it on, then turned bleutooth on seperatly and locked my phone and then !bam! A sod in a minute. My wifi was asleep when screen is off, but it wasn,t connected to network. Now turned on my wifi constantly and my processor a little higher when screen is off with setcpu and then we will see.

Keep u guys posted on what happens the next few days.

Cheers.

Sent from my ACE using the XDA app by Tapatalk.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ztrindberg:
I am having original 2.3.3 KPL and I have plenty of SOD ;-)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] blade2011:
Funny how many setups with different effects there are :)

Personally, I can report the following:

KPH 2.3.4 with Wifi off on display off: plenty of SODs

KPK 2.3.3 with Wifi off on display off: everything fine!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ztrindberg:
I hope it stays fine too ;)

Mine can last for a week and then pooof five SOD in one day and then nothing for some days...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Hi guys,

today i had 3 more sod's (3 in 15min.!!) Wifi was turned on the hole time during the first 2. After that i turned it off and again a few minutes later i got the third one. So for me i don't think its the wifi any more.

I suspect my bleutooth! I turned it on 2 of the 3 times and directly after putting the phone to screenlock/sleep the sod's appeared. Am testing now with bluetooth turned off completely and keeping it turned off.

Will post again the next few days what happens.

See ya.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] turutk:
i suspect that some apps or widgets may cause some sods.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Yes, maybe, but which ones?

Name a few if you want so we can compare if we have any incommon.

Heres a few of mine(left out the Dutch ones):

-Beautiful widgets lite (use widget)

-Pregly ticker (have a baby coming up:) )

-Barcode scanner

-App2sd free

-Quadrant standard

-Sygic mobile

-Tiny flashlight

-Robodefense

-Angry birds

-Glass tower

-Burn the rope

-Bubble blast2

-Teamviewer

-XDA (offcourse)

-Androidworld

-Setcpu

-Rootexplorer

-Batterycalibration

And 3 apps included in CF-Root: CWM manager, ext4 manager and tweakmanager.

Like to hear from u.

Cheers.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] turutk:
none of your apps seem suspicious to me as they don't require internet connectivity. though there was one person here who said that he didn't have any sods for 3 weeks until he installed cfroot. i don't think cfroot may be the cause but just in case i did not install it and i have been sod-free last 4 days (btw i flashed to kpn 4 days ago)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Yeah thought so too about the apps.

Don't think cf-root can cause the problem too, but keep us posted if you will.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Warrior7:
I just can't believe that SOD problems are still alive... I just came to xda developers to find out what to do to fix one of my Galaxy Ace...

:confused:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adil_yildiztr:
I have tried almost all roms. And I had sods with all of them. This problem is not rom related I think.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Like I say ed in my first post, its oftenly related to WIFI. Look in you wifi settings, go ADVANCED and look in wifi sleep policy. Dose it checked in "WHEN SCREEN TURNES OFF"? If yes, then put it to "NEVER". Oftenly it solves the problem(or secondly, you can turn you WIFI TO OFF, if you not in range or in home wifi).

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adil_yildiztr:
Turning wifi off blocks sods maybe but it's not a problem solver.

If i want to roam between routers i must have wifi turned on.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
Valid SOD Work around

Hi all,

after getting seriously pissed off with this ACE issue, I found a working work around from here http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-ace/312084-randomly-turning-off.html.

In short download Y5 -Battery Saver from Market, this will turn off your wireless everytime you get out of range of a known access point.

Secondly download Load monitor from Market, open it up and select preferences, under preferences, check the following boxes

Add notification

Only notify high load

Auto start

Wake lock

Only screen on

After that you shouldn´t get any SOD.

Drew
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Thx for info. We will see, dose it solve the problem. Waiting feedback a bout this one.

I do not will try it by my self(I havnt SOD-s[exept that one time]).

Thanks in advance!

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Mmm, interresting. Keep us posted if you want to.

Pitty i don't have time to test it my self:mad:

Thanks for sharing the info bro.

Cheers.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
I don't think so. I use WEP at my room and I can let wifi turned on there for ours (I let it on the entire last night, indeed). Why? Cause the signal is good, it doesn't disconnect.

At my work there's a very weak signal from another building with WPA2 encryption. It just appears sometimes. If I turn and let wifi on there - guess what > SoD!

And drewmayte, I'm gonna test this workaround when I get home.

Thanks, man!

PS: Haha, just another SoD while typing.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
works fine

I have used this work around for about a month now and I think I have had about 1 SOD. It is pretty effective. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
How the phone works after this workaround set (Y5 Batt Saver + Load Monitor)?

In other words:

1 - While the screen is off, the wifi connection remains?

2 - When does wifi turn itself off?

3 - Does it turn itself on again? When?

4 - What about the Android advanced wifi config? Does it should remain in "when screen is off"?

Sorry about so many questions.

Thanks in advance for the answers. ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
In the advanced WIFI config I have WIFI set to turn off when the screen is OFF.

With Y5 installed the WIFI is always off untill you get to an area where you have a known access point. Not sure exactly how it works but I think it uses the phone signal or towers to detect the regional area where you have a access point. When you enter this area the WIFI automatically turns on and picks up your home access point for example.

It is an effective tool, you just need to remember that Y5 always turns of your wifi, so if you are in a new cafe for example with an open wireless connection, you have to manually go into settings and activate wireless. Then you connect to the desired AP. Once it is remember to the device you should always have it connect automatically when you return to that cafe.

In relation to Load Monitor, I have no idea what is does, all I know is that I tested Y5 without load monitor and I still got SOD, I then tested Load monitor without Y5 and still got SOD, so in the end I just thought bugger it, I´ll run both. Works like a charm...

I would like to point out though that this is frikin ridiculous, what kind of crappy handset has SOD and what kind of crappy manufacturer releases a phone that has this problem. I like my phone but think that it is completely STUPID that I have to apply this work around so that it works like a normal phone.

I hope this works for others cos this problem for me was a ball breaker for about 3 days and I understand how frustrating it can be.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
I'm at home and I've just set the phone with the workaround.

I'll post here results or if I get any SoD.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
No SoD until now, but I'm not going far from my room. ¬¬

Just a question:

What do I need to do to Y5 recongnize a new network?

I have two in my house.

The one from my room is recognized with 4 cells (I don't know what it means) but the one from the other room isn't in Y5 list, even me connecting to it a couple times already.

Edit:

Forget. Y5 just recognized my other network, maybe it needs to stay connected a while first.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

In Wifi advanced settings put it to sleep "NEVER".

It solved many peoples problems with SOD.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
I don't think you've read the entire thread.

I don't want to drain my battery with wifi on all the time.

The workaround posted is to keep the wifi sleep settings but wifi goes off when I lost wifi signal and it goes on again when I reach a place where there's a known network.

But thanks for the answer. ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Jeah, I read it. Of course if you have ALL THE DAY WIFI ON, then I dont suggest that setting. But if you using you wifi only at home and at work, you can ALWAYS turn OFF you wifi, if you left out range.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
Well, I got 2 SoDs this afternoon at my work, even with the workaround (Y5 + Load Monitor). I turned off the wifi cause I was probably going to get more SoDs.

It's a problem of the device and a big one. Samsung doesn't say anything about it, a big lack of respect with it's customers.

I'm definitely going to try to give back my phone to the store and get another model, and probably it won't be another Samsung device.

What must I do to try to give the phone back? Flash 2.2.1 stock froyo again? What about the ClockWorkOrange? Is there a way to remove it?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
Sorry to hear that it didn´t work for you, I would try reflashing with the KPN stock ROM and then applying the fix one more time.

If you try and return your phone to the original point of sale then you need to have a Stock/Branded ROM from your cell company. You would need to find it and then flash it through ODIN, if you do a flash through ODIN it will delete everything as well as your ClockworkMod recovery.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
Another user from the same company said he exchanged the phone with KPH flashed. No one asked anything.

If I don't find the original rom, I will flash KPN (Samsung official, right?) and try to exchange.

If they ask something about differences, I can say Kies updated some things when I plugged the phone. But store sellers aren't technicians, I don't think they will go that far.

If I'm able to exchange, I'm thinking about Motorola Defy. Anyone knows anything about it?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
Juice Defender

I think I forgot to mention that Juice Defender is running on my phone and that was also recommended in the post that I placed in my first post.

I would download JuiceDefender (free edition) and give it a go. Make sure you still use load monitor and Y5 Battery saver.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
Shame on you. Not going to receive thanks. Haha.

I've downloaded the app, but there's a comparison table inside it and it says the free version doesn't control wifi. So, I think it's not going to help. :(

The thing is: the phone has a problem and Samsung is not helping. I think it's a good idea try to exchange it, don't you?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Granze:
Doesn't works for me. (CODEROM V2X-2B)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
continue using Y5

You use JuiceDefender while using Y5, that way you have everything covered.

You could try and change handset, up to you, if my provider would let me change it then I would probably have changed it, problem is that I only have a 7 day grace period then I am stuck with it. :(

Anyway nothing like a good challenge to make you enjoy your phone. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexzon:
Sorry, I didn't get it.

The SoD problem has only to do with wifi, no other data connections.

If the app doesn't change anything about it, it's useless for this purpose.

I went to the store today but cause of some burocratic things I will be able to exchange my phone only next Saturday.

No problem, I wait. I think I'm gonna choose the Motorola Defy, bigger and higher res screen.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
Coderom v2x

I installed CodeRom V2x yesterday and bought a copy of Juice Defender Ultimate, I haven´t had any SOD since then. Let´s hope this release fixes the issue, without having to use a work around.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Dawerius:
My SOD has this behaviour:

I tried these SD cards:

8-GB class 4

2-GB (SAMSUNG – included with phone)

with Firmware S5830XWKAA (Froyo 2.2.1)

I have NO SOD!!!

with KPH (2.3.4) and KPN (2.3.3):

- inserted SD CARD, WIFI ON – SOD

- inserted SD CARD, WIFI OFF – NO SOD

- SD CARD removed, WIFI ON – NO SOD

- SD CARD removed, WIFI OFF – NO SOD

It seems that there is some problem in KPN (2.3.3) and KPH (2.3.4) firmware because i have NO SODs with S5830XWKAA.

There is something wrong in wifi and SD card (drivers ?).
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] fla.sh:
Let's blame Samsung for this :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Here you got an interresting point.

I'm starting to think that Samsung did something on purpose to let de phone "die" when something is modified on it that a "normal" costumer wouldn't or couldn't do.

Because why else are they denying that SOD's excist or not come up with a solution yet?

Cheers.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dj_xizor:
Hello there!

Just to share my experience, I have no SODs since I'm on KPKN.

I try for 2 days, leaving Wifi on with "never" and "when screen off" settings.

Those same settings made SODs on KPH, KPH cf root, and CodeROM v2x-2b for me.

2 days is short, so I just wait and see, but seems like KPKN is the answer.

btw, fla.sh, your rom seems really great but there's report of SODs, as it is based on KPKN, do you think it could come from CFR b80?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] fla.sh:
I don't think so. All I know is, any ROM (stock or customized) always have SOD issue, if any. But I never faced SOD so far since I own this phone :confused:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Jeah, you right. I too never was SOD-s, just that one time, what I posted in the first post(but I tryed ALMOST all the stock and custom ROM-s).

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] frz:
hi

i started having sods after i rooted my phone for the 1st time using using CFRoot

wifes phone was rooted 1st time using upd_1

after that wife phone been rooted/romed many times using cf.. no SODs on her phone

just an opnion.....it could be the cf root/kernel..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Trixxta:
I had SOD's with Froyo stock already. It's definitely hardware imo. I'll get a new one by next week. Hopefully it will work better.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Dawerius:
I flashed KPO and NO SOD for 3 days. :) I hope this is the final solution.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
Hey,

thnx for reporting this.

Are u using only clean KPO or other things too?

Cheers.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Dawerius:
I am using almost clean KPO. I just rooted and made some changes in theme.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] consegregate:
I think waiting for cyanogen builds to drop then flashing that over will determine whether it's Samsung firmware disease or hardware issues.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Sgace:
+1. Think your right.

Let's wait and see.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] downloadonlyaccount:
Root via CF-Root or pure root through update.zip?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ^Deadly_Sin^:
When i was on stock froyo i had almost no SOD. Also when i was on villainrom i had very few SODs

While i was on KPH (firstUA) and now on KPN (fla.sh 2X) i get lots of SODs
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Motasap17:
No SOD on KPO.... Works great! !
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ztrindberg:
Hello how long have you been using KPO?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Dawerius:
I am on KPO 5 days and still no SOD.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ztrindberg:
Thank you but then I wait.

It took one week for my sods to start.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] nssenel:
I couldn't read all posts so i'm sorry if somebody mentioned this before. I installed 'Load Monitor' app from market and activated Wake Lock. There is no more SoD for 3 months.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] traduz:
Experienced SOD for the whole morning until i realized my wi-fi was turned on and the policy was to turn it off.

No SOD so far, let's see. I'm using FirstUA Rom + XKPH :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Jeah, like I sayed in first post.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] drewmayte:
After having a great run with no SOD´s, suddenly they started again. I uninstalled Y5 and thought that Juice Defender Ultimate would do the trick alone but it didn´t. I am going to reinstall Y5 and let you all know.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Trixxta:
My mobile got repaired by the store and now it's free of SOD's. Before it shut down right after I left the WiFi range while my mobile was in Stand-By. They didn't change anything software related by the way. I'm pretty sure that it's the hardware.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ztrindberg:
Hello again. Still no sod yet?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] casiocas:
Hey!

Cant argue exactly, but it may be HARDWARE or SOFTWARE(then comes up question: why I havnt never SOD-s? But someone have them ALL the time!). I havnt never SOD-s(in STOCK or CUSTOM ROM). Only after that one time when I was installed one app and left it with WIFI. After changing wifi settings to "NEVER SLEEP IF SCREEN IS OFF" I was get ride of the SOD.

Just saying its WIFI related problem(someone have them more, someone less and someone havnt them NEVER)!

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Trixxta:
I guess not all charges of the mobile are the same hence some got them regularly and some don't get them at all. At least it's strange that I had them constantly before they repaired it and now I don't get them at all. With the same apps and preferences.

My mom has the problem as well while 2 of my friends didn't even know about SOD's because they never get them. They are using almost the same mobiles as me since I flashed them all. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] himanshugurbani:
I think samsung is having revenge with your family...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Trixxta:
Gime their address, I'll take my revenge, too. :D