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[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
Yes guys, Ripley's believe it or not, no matter how irrational it may sound, but that super-responsive touch sensitive search key, a physical dedicated key on the front of your phone which hundreds of people are looking for a way to disable or stop directing to bing, which you can still use to search within MP, zune, people hub and other places.. will be turned to a shorcut to the webpage : www.bing.com .. nothing more than that.

You like it or not, microsont dosent give a damn. Remind me when they force IE and WML on Windows desktop. Deja vu.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekeeblerelf:
Can't tell if trolling or not...
[Windows Phone 7 General] singularity0821:
Well, he has a point, the button was quite useful within some of the built in apps.

Edit: but actually it's a little more than just a shortcut - Bing Vision etc is awesome ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
You will have a search button in applications where relevant.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sayonical:
While I do miss hitting the search key to in marketplace to search, I like Bing the way it is now. Its no longer anything but a direct way to access bing and related services like bing vision, audio and local scout.
[Windows Phone 7 General] alexrodri0:
ehh really liked that i could use it in IE to quickly go to the google home page back in nodo, but the new bing thing is pretty cool, would still rather use google though :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] Andrmgic:
It was inconsistent behavior. I'm glad they changed it.

You never knew which apps would have their built-in search triggered by the search button and which ones would just let you go to Bing, which took you out of your application.

Now the search button will always go to Bing and its enhanced features like Local Scout, Bing Vision, Bing Music and of course Bing search (and voice search)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
troll...

Then answer me, if they gonna do that, why the hell do they have to build up Bing Vision/ Bing Integrated System in Windows Phone and then hide it away without being used?

I know they aren't crazy enough or have much free time and pea-brain to do that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tiny17:
This.

And as the OS becomes more popular, there were be registry changes/tweaks/etc that will allow you to change how that button operates, and where it takes you. But this implementation makes the most sense for the standard user.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
Have you ever tried bing.com search outside USA?

I am sick of that key and want to cut open my phone and disconnect all lines that goes to that button.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
Being ironic isn't troll. That's true.

I prefer a SEARCH button then a BING button. Thank you.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Andrmgic:
I agree that they should give people the option to change that button to a search engine of their choice.. but I much prefer the new consistent behavior over the old guessing game until they decide to provide the option.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Seed 2.0:
Just allow us to associate our Bing searches on our phones to our Bing Rewards and we will call it a wash. :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] webwalk®:
its a bug, i had it too, if your search button opens ie9 @bing.com instead of the bing app then you should reinstall mango..
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
another ridiculous complaint. seems to be more of these threads than normal. I happen to like the Bing search button. gives me easy access to it advanced features,now if I hear a song on tv or in the wild and want to know what it is, I don't have to back out of the app im in first in order to goto it. saves alot of time. another thing I like is that if ur in IE and u highlight a word and press that button it will input that as a search term. don't see google search on Android doing anything like that. google search is going down!
[Windows Phone 7 General] day2die:
You do realize that Microsoft has implanted many soft buttons to address this issue? Now the Search button behavior is always consistence.

If you don't use Bing, don't use the search button. Problem solved.
[Windows Phone 7 General] NotTarts:
Exactly. Before Mango, you had no idea what would happen if you pressed the Search button.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Before Mango, was the search button available to 3rd party developers to use in their apps? In other words, could they listen for the button event, and then do something within the app, as opposed to just passing it on to the OS?

If so, then the new behavior is kind of disappointing, as it limits what app developers can do. If not, then it really makes no huge difference, since only core OS elements (such as the marketplace) could access the button anyway, and they probably have replaced that functionality with an in-app search button if one is needed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
No it wasn't available to developers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] NotTarts:
Even if developers had access to the button, it's just not consistent to have a hardware button with two different functions, depending on the app and/or situation (and with no indicator specifying which function was avaliable).
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Agreed. And since it wasn't even available to developers, I don't really see any problem with the change. As you say, at least now it behaves consistently at all times.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
Before Mango, developers already did NOT have access to the hardware search button.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
odd. I thought ud agree with the OP since u have lots of other nonsense demands.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
Yes i do sir. I am currently visiting my home country, which is Vietnam and i still use that button for searching everyday. Of course, i cannot get the advantage of searching places in Vietnam, but it is still useful for stuffs that i don't know and want some quick searching.

If i misunderstand you about the button, are you trying to tell me that you are having a Search Button that lead to bing.com(on IE) instead of Bing Integrated system of Windows Phone?
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
You're such a funny child.:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
Bing integrated search engine is untested and unproven search system ... Google had the same search engine a year back where it said just take a pic and search about it I tried it back than by taking a simple clear pix of corona beer and it was not able to tell what was it and what I was searching about... We don't know how bing vision and bing audio search is going to be... If it turns out to be a useless marketing gimmick to turn people away from Google than instead of it turning people away from Google it would end up turning people away from windows phone. Let not forget how supr responsive that search key is with no way to disable it even on temporary basis..

Just to give you an example right now while I am writing this message I m **** scared that I don't ht that search key accidently cos if I do so I will loose everything I have written so far.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
bing does suck outside of US currently and hopefully microsoft will change that in final mango. The button becoming a link to bing search is a mixed bag. It still gives some functionality but I also like the universal search options too
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
Works fine in the UK and Spain.
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
Yes, but try it in Czech Republic. local search none, searching on bing maps streets in Czech Republic (tried few in Prague) fails too, it sent me somewhere to Russia to city with similar name as the street in Prague.
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
I'm sure Google isn't perfect everywhere either.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 937dytboi:
Sounds like the Google button
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
You are wrong. Google owns 160 domain names for each of the countries/regions. It has been completely localized for these country/region specific search.

Not to mention localization within a country, like for example within India using www.google.co.in (its country specific domain) you can search in 9 different Indian languages.
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
Still they are miles (kilometres) ahead of MS's Bing in this. Hell, they are doing even Street View in more and more cities here. Prague is mapped for few years now.

If they employ me, I will gladly help to bring Bing to Czech Republic with proper support.
[Windows Phone 7 General] prjkthack:
Still doesn't mean Google is perfect. Nothing is perfect. But Google does have more of a presence in other areas of the world hence better support.

Fact of the matter is, you bought a phone with a Microsoft operating system, you buy into Microsoft's services. Just like most products based in the United States, the United States comes first, and other places after. Might not be fair, but its most definitely true. Even Google does this with their services from time to time, where it'll only be available or useful in the United States. If you want Google, buy Android and you'll get those wonderful Google search features you want, or go beg Google to throw some apps at Windows Phone 7, that would be nice too.

Gotta remember that not only is this phone operating system less than year old, but Bing itself is still incredibly new and is continuing to grow every day.

I bought this phone because of Windows Live, because of the great Bing integration, because of Zune, and Xbox Live, and because I live in a Microsoft ecosystem based in the United States. It works damn well for me and I love it, even the search button that takes me to Bing.

You can complain all you want, but you have a Microsoft operating system so you're gonna get stuff like Windows Live, Xbox, Bing, Zune, and all of that. The whole point of Windows Phone is to leverage all of Microsoft's services into a single platform, and it's done a damn good job with it thus far. That means a dedicated Search button, that means dedicated links to Windows Live services, that means Internet Explorer as a browser, and Xbox as your gaming platform. The search button ain't changing anytime soon, and Bing certainly isn't going away. No, it doesn't always work, and yes, the support outside of the United States can be lacking, but this is the nature of the beast, and if you don't like it, then please, switch, so we can move on to more constructive topics.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eric12341:
Bing vision worked fine on everything I used it on. it won't turn people away it will attract especially considering that google doesn't have this built into android. it's just an app and I've hit it accidentally a few times i just hit back and it took me back to what i was typing. u just have to keep ur fingers positioned properly and type at a steady pace. that's how i think all these spelling errors and accidental button pressings are happening. people are typing at the speed they would if they were on a PC, which isn't adequate to do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
My only complaint about the search button or any of the front 3 buttons for that matter is that OEM's using capacitive buttons instead of hardware buttons. I prefer hardware buttons myself as these capacitive buttons are a lot easier to hit by accident (no pressure needed). Especially for people with big long fingers. There's been times that the buttons registered a touch when I didn't even touch the screen/buttons, static electrical jumped the gap button my finger & screen/buttons.

EDIT: As for the button being dedicated to BING I do perfer. Pre-Mango, you are never sure if it'd search within the app or open Bing. Now you know if the app has a search function as it'll be a dedicated softkey. I wish they'd add back/forward button to IE too. It's just be more fluid to have the hardware back button always be a system wide back button & not back for web browsing in IE. It is annoying when you want to "close" IE.
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
Agree 100%. This will get better when apps are recompiled for Mango and can fast resume but for now it's SO annoying to hit the search button when you're playing a game.
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
You have to hope that HTC will do the same as Samsung - when screen is being touched (and few ms after it is left), the capacitive buttons are disabled.

// Btw, Bing Vision didn't work on DVD box from Guitar Hero World Tour :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I'm not reading this thread just because the OP has been trolling with this trash in multiple threads. Bing button is useful, if you don't like it, don't use it, & be more careful. It does more than just link to a shortcut of web results

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[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Sorry it's not about more careful. Yes it is useful & my complaint isn't a WP7 complaint, it's an OEM/Hardware complaint. The capacitive buttons are far too close to the screen & edge of the device that no matter how careful you are you will accidentally hit. They should of used hardware buttons or as OndraSter said, have a delay that disables the capacitive button when you are interacting with the screen.

This attitude of, "if I don't have a problem, than neither should anyone else attitude," needs to stop. Show your follow members respect & respect their opinions/complaints. Don't just disregard them. This is a common theme of responses by many members lately & has to stop. If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything at all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I am sorry to hurt your sentiment but lets face it, that search button not only ruins the basic functioning of a smarthphone, like surfing a webpage or writing to an email in length, but also ruins functionality of many developer applications and games, specially ones which are meant to be used to be used in landscape mode.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I use my phone addictively, I'm never off of it. So, let's face it, if you're constantly hitting the button, maybe you shouldn't own a smartphone, as I've only hit it once or twice in the year I've had the phone. It doesn't "ruin" anything for me, or many others. I've stated many times that I've agreed there should be an option to only trigger it with a long press when you're in an app, the same reaction it has on the lock screen right now. But your approach on this is ridiculous, and so is the fact that you insist on posting nonsense in other threads about it too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
there's no need to talk like that. I myself hit the button by accident a lot. It's not about being careful. It is that I have big hand & big long fingers. The HD7 is small in my hands & yet, guess what, I never had this problem on my old Touch Pro 2, but it had hardware buttons, not capacitive. While I agree it's not an issue with WP7 & shouldn't be removed, the disrespect you are giving him has no place on XDA. Read the forum's ToS. If you can't be respectful & don't have constructive criticism, than don't say anything at all. As to the OP, if you have been posting this all over XDA, you should read the ToS as well. Make sure you post threads in the proper section & don't spam post. If a topic already exist, don't start a new thread for it.

XDA MOD Quote;
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
The rules also state not to spam multiple topics with the same garbage, which is being done here. I've offered a suggestion for a solution, but this thread originated as a "I can't believe I had to use a Microsoft service on a Microsoft product"
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I'll have to take you word that he spamming. I haven't seen it myself, but this is no reason to be disrespectful. I also stated that he shouldn't spam in my last post according to ToS. I understand it gets frustrating seeing this kind of stuff, just try to be respectful in your responses instead of condescending. Also, if someone is spamming, PM the mod of the specific forum(s) with links to the multiple posts so they can take care of it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Just because.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1190511

This thread wasn't actually about the sensitivity of the button, but more of a dislike of Microsoft's products. That is where my argument comes from... I offered my solution to the understandable sensitive button problem, as I have in many threads. This whole "ruining the experience" BS came after you made your original statement about the button, but it wasn't his original argument. But my annoyance towards the OP is the fact that Bing is apparently the worst service in the world because he doesn't personally like it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I post about it in two threads and you call it spamming all over xda forum? I am pretty sure I have also complained about how basic calendar functionality is at two different times in two different threads.

And this thread is also about sensitivity of the button, as I have stated in my OP how 'super responsive that search button is and how many people have tried in vain to disable it' by registry hack or some app.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
I'm not disagreeing with your point. I'm just saying, be civil/respectful. If you can't get your point across to him than don't waste your time. Don't resort to insults or being condescending. That is all I have to say.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drkfngthdragnlrd:
As for the button sensitivity, this is a OEM issue. Try reporting this to your OEM. I suspect it to be HTC as my HTC HD7 has this problem. They can easily fix it by editing the driver DLL that handles how the digitizer (Capacitive Touchscreen & therefore buttons) works.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aphasaic2002:
I don't mind the button going to Bing, but I have to admit I have the same problem as others have reported; I'm always accidently pressing it when running another program or game!

Games that require swipes are the worst, like Fruit Ninja - I always seem to swipe too far to the side and touch the button, forcing the game to quit. App developers should be able to disable the buttons, or maybe make it only register a press when it's held down for 100ms or more?

Hope HTC come up with a driver fix, cos it's very annoying!
[Windows Phone 7 General] NotTarts:
The search/back capacitive button are fine on my Omnia 7, Purple11. Swiping across the screen and over the button doesn't activate it. I'm not sure what problems you're having with yours.

I think it would be nice if it could be mapped to an app shortcut instead of defaulting to Bing. This would allow Google/Yahoo/whoever to create an app which you could assign to the button.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Makes you wonder why microsoft decided to launch their new platform in Europe first.
[Windows Phone 7 General] prjkthack:
Gotta start somewhere right? I mean Windows Phone support was even worse when it first came out, and Mango may not be bringing all the features, but it certainly is bringing a bit more. Slowly but surely, things are getting better.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
Just to let you know, Samsung released firmware updates a while back for the Samsung Omnia 7 and the Samsung Focus which disable the capacitive buttons when you are touching the screen.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I dont think I have it, I only got update from zune, nothing from Samsung? Can you please tell me how to get it? My current firmware is 7.0.(7392). :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
7.0.7392 is the OS version: it has nothing to do with the firmware.

Anyway, I am not sure why you have not gotten the firmware update (you carrier?).

Before the firmware update, I routinely accidentally press the capacitive buttons, but this is no longer an issue after the firmware update.

My Samsung Focus's firmware revision number is 2103.11.3.3
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
My Omnia firmware number is 2424.10.11.1

I use Atnt in US and bought my phone unlocked from expansys-usa.com, I dont know if its factory unlocked or other unlocked version, but my seal was broken when I got the box so I am thinking expansys-usa.com unlocked it before sending it to me.. I got german user manual in the box too..

Right now I am in india for last 30 days and am using AIRTEL here.. but all my live ID and zune account everything is USA and everything is working fine.. I can access zune, listen to songs, download and everything.. so I think if samsung released this FW in last 30 days I would have got it too..

I dont think i have this FW because when i play fruit ninja it does kick me out if i hit the search key.. i am checking samsung support website and registering my device their, maybe i will get this new update from samsung website...
[Windows Phone 7 General] colossus_r:
Ι did read all the pages of this thread and i am impressed that no-one told this guy that the title is misleading...

The Bing in WP7 m8 ...its not a webpage....

Saying this can only means that you never used a phone with mango ...

The search key takes you to bing application witch is now a set of applications..

1. Search

2. Music regognition (shazam like)

3. Local Scout

4. Vision (optical recognition)

5. Voice commands

Its not just a web page....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I can now confirm that I dont have this FW and never got any message to update too... Here is my phone details:

OS: 7.0.7392.0

FW Revision number: 2424.10.11.1

Hardware Revision: 3.15.0.4

Radio Software version: 2424.10.11.1

Radio Hardware: 0.0.0.800

Bootloader version: 4.11.0.3

I have never done cheveron or anything, I tried to register my device on samsung usa but it says i have a wrong serial number which is not.. i guess they dont accept german samsung on US website..

So I am thinking I will just have to wait for MANGO, maybe that will update my FW version and disable my search key when I am touching the screen??

:(

I dont know why I didnt got this FW update in first place.. why me??
[Windows Phone 7 General] colossus_r:
Cheke here ..has some info about it

http://windowsphonehacker.com/
[Windows Phone 7 General] nizzon:
A longpress for this button would be awesome.

Or at least give us the option.
[Windows Phone 7 General] NotTarts:
Yep, I definitely think you have an older firmware version. This is my Omnia 7:

OS: 7.0.7392.0

FW Revision number: 2424.11.2.3

Hardware Revision: 3.15.0.4

Radio Software version: 2424.11.2.2

Radio Hardware: 0.0.0.800

Bootloader version: 5.2.1.4

and this is yours:

OS: 7.0.7392.0

FW Revision number: 2424.10.11.1

Hardware Revision: 3.15.0.4

Radio Software version: 2424.10.11.1

Radio Hardware: 0.0.0.800

Bootloader version: 4.11.0.3
[Windows Phone 7 General] feygor:
i personally happily take bing music/vision/local scout over a dedicated hardware button to search within marketplace. Although bing vision hasn't given me anything yet, i've tried it on various things. Bing music has incorrectly identified a track, then on second chance said it had never heard of it (despite the fact i bought this track straight from zune) the ocr doesn't seem to work, even on simple fonts. Local scout is awesome though...
[Windows Phone 7 General] NotTarts:
Strange, everything has worked perfectly for me. Tried Bing Music on The Kooks, Kalimba (the song that came with Windows 7), and Bing Vision worked fine scanning a roster list in Arial and Times New Roman.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
On Android this works perfectly well. The search button is context sensitive and nearly all 3rd party apps support this. I just think its a waste of space to have a separate search button for exactly ONE use case...
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
In theory, the Search button DOES search the marketplace, it'll come up as your first result. But, also, you need to remember that not all developers are equal, and if you give developers the ability to choose, it'll bring a wave of inconsistency. But this thread was more about the OP's hate for Microsoft products and them being "forced" on him when he bought a Microsoft phone. I'm happy with it's function in Mango, the whole experience, even broader than that key, is incredibly more consistent.