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[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Ok, thanks for that info. You say you are s-on but are you also locked again, ie did you run the writesecure command?

That was what was one thing worrying/confusing me, if running SuperCID and then returning to s-on and locking the bootloader, how would you then change back to stock cid. If you say you can still do this then great.
[HTC Sensation] TheStigx:
Thanks for the answer but i have fully updated my phone, and i just want to remove the root and clock recovery. :)
[HTC Sensation] dmorenoj:
Hi ClydeB1,

Thanks a lot for your answer, now I understand why those steps are needed. I will do that tomorrow.

Regards,
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
Alright, I have the same error of "waiting for device" when I try and run revolutionary. I was able to use the tool on my Evo 3D, and I can type "adb devices" and get my serial number printed out and also type in "adb reboot-recovery" and the phone responds. I have tried redownloading the HTC drivers, unplugging the usb, rebooting my computer... nothing. Any suggestions?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Do you have HTC Sync or any similar program which syncs with your phone installed on your pc? If so you must exit completely out of those apps or you can even uninstall them to be certain, but they can play havoc with the tool.
[HTC Sensation] sparkienl:
No one is mention S-off by HTC-DEV website

I did S-off my Sensation XE by the methode of HTCDEV Website.

In my opinion the simpliest way to do it. You can Un-Lock/Re-lock as often you want with the Unlock_code.bin I recieved from HTCDEV.:D
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
That's because none of us want to tell HTC that we have unlocked our devices. What they don't know wont hurt us ;)
[HTC Sensation] sparkienl:
Do YOU think they can't read the threaths on XDA:confused::confused:
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
So what if they read the threads on xda what is that going to tell them about my phone? :confused: IF I have to send my phone in for repairs/warranty claim, how are they ever going to know who I am or that the phone they see was unlocked via xda? Yours on the other hand has a record with HTC telling them that phone with serial number xyz was unlocked.

I'm not trying to be funny/difficult here and am not disagreeing that unlocking via HTC Dev is an option or that it isn't an easy process, but personally I'd rather not have records telling HTC that MY particular phone was unlocked.
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
No I don't. I too don't wanna use the HTC method, what's the point of getting rid of all the HTC spyware if we tell them what we're doing?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Strange one then. You say you do have drivers installed, but try these ones
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
those are the ones I'm currently using, also tried the naked drivers.

redownloaded revolutionary, but no luck... thinking I may need to start from the beginning and see if I missed anything :mad:

does the htc method give s-off or just unlock the bootloader?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
IIRC it only unlocks bootloader. I haven't really studied up on it though (for reasons stated above :D)
[HTC Sensation] BumAround:
Try this: erase all of previous versions of HTC Sync and/or other similar apps/drivers (maybe you have other phone etc). Depending on your computer/laptop's OS, if Windows, this can be done via Control Panel's submenu (Add/Remove Programs). Then (re)install the HTC driver.
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
Going back through all of my drivers, I had PDAnet :rolleyes: and QPST still installed. Deleted and trying again.
[HTC Sensation] sparkienl:
You don't have to give them your phone serial-nr, it gives S-off:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
good to know i have a backup option if i can't get revolutionary to work, thanks!

edit, my phone is not supported by the htc method since i have 1.45.531.1. also, in the FAQ:

Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?

Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.

was the same on the evo 3d, could still flash kernels and such, just have to go through fastboot. if you had previous soff through rev, the htc method would let you keep soff.
[HTC Sensation] MusicMan374:
I ran the cid command after I did the writesecureflag command and rebooted into the bootloader twice to verify it said s-on. Then I checked CID and it said 11111111, so I was like, goddamnit, what if they check the CID? Luckily, before I did supercid, I took note of the old CID, which for me was T-MOB010. I didn't think it would work with s-on, but I ran the command, rebooted into the bootloader twice, and checked the variable and it returned T-MOB010, so I think it did work. Anyhow, I returned the phone to costco, I doubt they'll check anything, they'll just send it back to HTC in a mass shipment with other defective HTC phones, so I'm not worried about it, but to answer your question, yes, I think the CID command works even with s-on.
[HTC Sensation] TheStigx:
Nevermind!! :D
[HTC Sensation] zozo10k:
Thanks for awsome guide!!!
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
First of all, thanks for putting this together, the part with writing the new CID really helped a lot!

Secondly, while revolutionary is - again - "zerging root" (:)), I just wanted to share something. I don't know if anyone else is even remotely as stupid as I am, but maybe it helps someone:

So I flashed 1.45 RUU in order to flash Insert Coin afterwards. Then I ran revolutionary. I got "invalid beta key" time after time after time (in spite of copy and paste etc.). The key has worked before, so I was stunned why it wouldn't work this time (and no, the different hboot is not the solution, because it has no effect on the generated beta key).

After about half an hour of trying different stuff (different synch methods, permutations of the key etc.), I realised that I was using an old version of revolutionary which I had downloaded a while back (and which didn't have support for hboot 1.18.0000 yet). So, if anyone else desperately tries to "zerg some root", watch out for your revolutionary version. The correct one was sitting right next to the one I was using, right in front of me on my dektop ;) I felt stupid as hell and relieved at the same time^^

Anyway, thanks again to everyone who has helped developing this and also to anyone who wrote guides etc. You guys rock.
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
hello, I have an asian sensation. I've done the steps for s-off, cwm and root. I am still on stock rom. When I receive the ota update I can not install it. Is this because of not having the stock recovery or being s-off?

If recovery is the problem if I flash stock recovery by using http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17830737&postcount=1 can I do the update.

If not what is the cause.

Lets assume I managed to update the stock rom with ota with your help, will I lose my root and s-off and can I get them back?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
While you still get OTA notifications when rooted, you can't install. You need the stock recovery to install the update. See this guide for the process, although your link will help to get the recovery version a little easier.

Depending on what OTA version you are going to install and the hboot version that comes with the update you should be able to get s-off again. The OTA would normally include the locked HTC bootloader and so you will ose your s-off and root. As long as it the hboot version is 1.18.0000 or lower (down to 1.17.0008), you should be able to repeat the process to s-off, install CWM and root.
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
Thank you for the reply. I am on android 2.3.3 with 1.35.707.1. Ota notification is android 2.3.4 with 1.45.707.1. Any idea what hboot version it will bring with it?

One more question; what if I use super cid thingy to change to an other area? Would that be more useful in my condition?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
1.45 rom should have the 1.18.0000 hboot AFAIK.

SuperCID won't help you with the OTA update, it only allows you to flash full roms
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
By "full rom" do you mean stock rom. I am on stock rom already, havn't used a custom rom yet.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
No, I meant a full rom that you can install via RUU (ie exe file you run on pc) as opposed to the OTA update file that you have received.
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
You've been very helpful, thank you. Btw, I tried to put the stock recovery from the source you've mentioned earlier but ota still gave me error. Do you think the method that I've given the link of, can make any difference?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
What error do you get? If it's an exclamation mark and and android robot when trying to enter recovery, you need to press the power button and press vol up to boot into stock recovery. If it's just an error with the recovery itself not installing the OTA it could either be the recovery version being wrong (so try the tool from your link) or else a problem with the OTA file itself.
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
no problem with recovery. I get the error while update is beeing performed, it's a red triangle with exclamation mark.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Ok, couldn't remember what it looks like. At that screen, press and hold power button and then press the vol up button. It should then boot into stock recovery.

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Ok, see you updated your post while I was replying. That sounds like a faulty OTA file then. See if you can find the OTA to download here. Was it 1.45.707?
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
It's 1.45.707.1 that I'm trying to get.

How could it be faulty since the phone is getting it from htc?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
It's possible it may get corrupted during download - I guess anything is possible :o

Try download this one - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17467303&postcount=5

Also, are you 100% certain you are on the stock 1.35 rom, you didn't remove any "bloat" from the rom? AFAIK The OTA will check for certain stock files and if those are missing the install will fail.
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
sorry for the trouble I am giving you, I only deleted "HTC locations" related files like the locations apk and widgets etc. due to car kir problems.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
No worries, just click my Thanks button :D.

Yeah, that would probably cause the error with the update. It's probably looking for those Location files and as it can't find them it's bombing out.

You may need to reflash the 1.35.707 RUU and then try the OTA again.
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Then he might as well flash the 1.45 RUU (since changing the SuperCID really is easy as pie) right away, or am I missing something?

And you probably mean reset to factory default and not "reflash", right?

And erdo, you might really want to use that like button, since he helped you out quite a bit and you are obviously thankful for it ;)
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
The only problem is that no one seems to have the 1.45.707 RUU available for download though, hence the suggestion to use 1.35.707 and then apply the 1.45.707 OTA. He didn't indicate that he wanted to move to another 1.45 based rom via SuperCID, so I never suggested that as an option. I'm not sure that a factory reset will restore files deleted from the rom (could be wrong, but AFAIK it only erases data and user apps)

But yes, you are right about being able to use SuperCID and flashing one of the available 1.45 RUU's.
[HTC Sensation] erdo:
I surely am grateful for all the helpful info. The things I did before just by following the instructions are now getting meaningful as I fill the gaps in my mind.

I will give it a try tomorrow by installing stock 1.35 ruu.
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Oh, I see what you mean. Under these assumptions, your advice is, of course, correct. Actually, now that you mention it, I am not even sure myself whether a factory reset will restore deleted files; I had just always assumed so without thinking about verifying that thought ;)

The SuperCID method and then flashing the 1.45 RUU would of course have the advantage of taking care of some carrier bloatware. Erdo, you might want to consider this as it is super easy and you only have one flashing process instead of one plus updates. Worked flawlessly for me.

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Sent from the bridge of the USS Enterprise holding on to my captain's chair while flying into the sun. Where do I find those damn whales?
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
OK, I uninstalled and reinstalled all my drivers and revolutionary still won't work. I can use ADB to push/pull, reboot, etc, so I don't think that's it. I'm trying to use 0.4pre4, does anyone have 0.4pre1, 2 or 3 I can try? I have 0.3pre6 but that won't work with my hboot.
[HTC Sensation] Macklessdaddy:
Tech challenged here so please bear with me,to install cwm it says to boot into hboot and after that it says press up to accept the update but after booting into hboot it doesn't ask me anything about the update and yes i installed it to my memory card,thanks
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
the file has to be on the root (in no folders) of your sd and named PG58IMG.zip
[HTC Sensation] Macklessdaddy:
do I put .zip or will it do it automatically,thanks

it says wrong image
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Just download the file and copy to your sd card. IIRC it is named correctly, don't unzip the file first.
[HTC Sensation] rom116:
Trouble with s on

Got the security warning deal after achieving s on and now cannot get ruu updated to finish got an error about the signature I have supercid am I bricked? Says please get the correct rom update utility and try again? This is the one I just used
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Did you flash an official stock rom before getting the secure flag back on? Do it like described in the first post. You are supposed to flash the RUU first and then set the flag back to on. I copied the (probably) relevant parts:
[HTC Sensation] Bildi13:
Thanks people for this, I am total noob and manage to S-OFF ROOT and instal costume ROM in less then an our with this tutorial.

Thanks once again
[HTC Sensation] alhuang69:
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[HTC Sensation] Macklessdaddy:
now we're cooking with gas,thanks.Wow you sure know the noob mistakes.:D
[HTC Sensation] rom116:
Yes I did the ruu update first that's why I am frustrated because the same ruu I used to restore the stock rom won't work now. Gonna try my work pc cuz the one at my house sucks and is super slow.
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
I've seen them all LOL :D (and probably made many of them myself over time ;))
[HTC Sensation] boinkz:
Thank you very much. Its so helpfull for me(noob)

I just wanna ask if i can install a custom rom even w/o SUPER CID? THANKS
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Could you use revolutionary again to set it to S-Off? Then you have another shot at flashing the correct RUU.

What RUU are you trying to flash and where did you download it? Are you sure the download isn't corrupted?

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Yes, if it's a custom ROM, you can. Just flash away after obtaining S-OFF! If it's an official ROM, you'd have to change the SuperCID. Happy flashing :)
[HTC Sensation] rom116:
Downloaded the tmobile RUU, it worked to take it back to stock the first time I flashed it, then i did the writesecureflag 3 got the security error and now the RUU won't work, give me a signature error, I'm downloading the later RUU and going to try that, could I go through the S Off deal again without being able to boot into the rom?
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Just to make sure we're not leaving anything out here: You actually own a T-Mobile device, right? ;)

And about your other question, I'm not sure, you might try it while only being in the bootloader, but since one usually has to do it while the system is running, it might not work. It probably has to do with the way the expolit works. I just have never tried it differently.

It's kinda hard to see where the error might be because there are quite a few unkown variables in this. Could you tell us exactly what the error about the signature says?
[HTC Sensation] rom116:
Got it. I just used the more recent of the 2 RUUs and it worked. I originally restored it to stock with the older one, put S ON, the older RUU no longer would pass the signature verification. I used the newer one and no problems. Thanks for the hlep
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
You're welcome, glad to hear it worked out!
[HTC Sensation] ianoob:
Alright, I got it! I had to uninstall the drivers from the revo wiki and install the official ones from HTC.
[HTC Sensation] EPgoat:
I'm trying to un-root and turn my device to s-on and i'm having trouble. I have downloaded the adb tool and extracted it to the C:/adb folder. When I try to open it nothing happens. I run it as administrator and when i click on it to open it never comes up. What am I doing wrong?
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
You have to open command prompt on your pc and change directory to run from the folder where adb is installed. It's not an app you run by clicking on the exe file
[HTC Sensation] EPgoat:
I'm getting the same problem as you. When i try to install the 1.29.531.2 rom it wont let me. Could it be a problem with the link? or did i just brick my phone?
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Just try what he tried, use a more recent RUU.
[HTC Sensation] ToddeSwe:
No root?!

Hi!

Tried to install Titanium backup just now and guess what?! No root access... tried to start Superuser guess what? FC!

Checked my recovery and it reports S-OFF, what could have happened?

Where to start finding out what's wrong?

I use the old recovery, maybe updating to the new one is a good idea?

Problem gone, updated to latest recovery and su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip, restarted and updated some more stuff. Now it works :)
[HTC Sensation] tsrzealot:
Yeah I think it is generally a good idea to use some of the most recent stuff. It doesn't always have to be the newest (b/c that could mean beta stages, instability, bugs etc), but the most recent version (of almost anything) which is reported to be stable is, at least in most cases and according to my experience, a good call ;)
[HTC Sensation] adambala:
anyone can help me?waiting for device and nothing happens...why?i unistall htc sync and nothing happens.....
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
YOU ARE DEFINITELY ROOTED. HOW DID YOU GET IT TO WORK?

titanium would close after giving you not rooted message, my backup wouldnt have worked, rom manager would have thrown warnings, and Superuser pop up wouldnt come up if you were not rooted
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
More details please, have you installed the extra drivers?
[HTC Sensation] xuni89:
This guide is nice but for joobs like me could u explain what cwm anf flashing etc.. is in laymans term. Does cwm backs up stock rom or somethin?
[HTC Sensation] mo0ody:
Waww.... Finally... !

Thank You Guyz.. :D
[HTC Sensation] awdlexusis:
?

anyway to generate a different key? keeps saying invalid beta key and its 100% perfect??
[HTC Sensation] shorty87:
Well first of all...many thanks to you for staying up and helping everyone out. Really appreciate it.

First got S-OFF. Then got CWM Recovery.

Then tried rooting:

Well the first time I tried rooting at step 3, it failed so I moved on to trying the unsecured boot image to root. That messed up WiFi. So restored back to stock rom. Then saw a post from someone saying step 3 root method failed for them but they tried again and it worked. So I just tried it again and rebooted and it worked.

So whoever had issues with root and WiFi not working, try the root method from step 3 at least a few times. It should work!
[HTC Sensation] adambala:
where to install drivers in which folder?i downloaded them but where to put them?
[HTC Sensation] IrishStyle:
Worked great for me thanks. Just had to rename the root file "update" to get the recovery to work. many thanks.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Please could you post your Key here so we can check it for you and advise
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
you dont put them anywhere you install them
[HTC Sensation] adambala:
my device says...cant find htc sync at my pc....i run the exe file...and still nothing waiting for device....any help?
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
ok i got root working here are my steps.

1, repeat step 3 at least 3 times or untill it installs completely .

2 , downloaded busy box from the market , open it and install the app.

3, reboot and that did it , root is working and wifi is working with s off :D

hope it will help others....

if u want to verify if u have root download the app called root checker it checks for root and for busy box to b installed correctly ...
[HTC Sensation] adambala:
there is no .exe file to install them.....
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
wait till your device clears from saying cant find htc sync clear the screen and then run the zip file as administrator .....
[HTC Sensation] adambala:
zip file?what zip file?i install and unistall htc sync.....i have the beta key....i open the programm an still wiating for device....crap what i am doing wrong????
[HTC Sensation] adambala:
where i can find htc drivers to intsall them????i download a zip file but there wasnt any exe file....to install
[HTC Sensation] gilbert11231123:
the revolutionary zip file that you download it from the rev site , extract the file run it as administrator ignore your phone saying cant find htc sync they all said that, just wait till your phone is looking for htc sync it wont find it is ok after it can not find it run the revolutionary file and it should work make sure you have htc uninstalled in your phone , with usb debuggin on and you r good to go.
[HTC Sensation] ancola66:
I have factory reset, install new HTC Driver (for Windows 7), Reboot PC ..... but all stuck : method3:(
[HTC Sensation] IrishStyle:
This page has the driver exe you are being told about. Link says "these htc drivers". Install that then run the revolutionary.

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
[HTC Sensation] ToddeSwe:
Thanks, that have been my opinoin to over the time. But my phone was flawless and i did not wanted to mess it up when everything worked so fine and smooth. :) That's why have choosen not to install the latest this time. I guess i have to re think again. :)
[HTC Sensation] mjybarr:
I'm a little concerned about the hboot. I followed the tut and achieved s-off and full root. But my hboot ends with .0008, which is my stock hboot and not this:

"IF REVOLUTIONARY SAYS FAILED YOUR PHONE IS NOT SUPPORTED. Go back and check hboot using the methods above. some users are told its failed and they still have S off now. If you have S-off your hboot will now be 1.17.1011 and revolutionary will tell you now your device is not supported."

So before going all flash happy, should I get the right hboot and if so, how do I go about getting it? Thanks for any advice in advanced.

Sent from Pure meXdroidMod!
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
On your bootlaoder screen you should see the the word Revolutionary in pink text together with S-Off, if not then you are not fully S-off with the "hacked" hboot version. Were you able to install CWM Recovery and Root ie Step 2 and 3 of the guide?.

If you are using the latest version of the tool, the hboot should change to 1.17.1111. I suggest trying to run the tool again.
[HTC Sensation] mjybarr:
Yeah I got clockwork to install and I have superuser persmission. I rebooted a few times and booted back into hboot a few times and it still says s-off. I also installed adfree and a cache cleaner. Have SU permission on both of them as well. I will run rev again. Should I run it over top of what I have already done?

Sent from Pure meXdroidMod!
[HTC Sensation] ClydeB1:
Does it show Revolutionary on the bootloader screen? I'd just try to install the rom if you have CWM and root.