yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] aadcrasher:
Not trying to start another fight in this thread, but HTC does not lock their phones for control. Every EVO is different, as I'm sure most people have noticed. Some perform best at different voltages/frequencies and what not, some get best battery life at different places. The EVO is produced at different locations and due to the nature of technology and other factors they all perform differently. This means that they must default the phone to frequencies and voltages that are conservative enough to guarantee stability across every phone. And then they sell to more than one market of people. To generalize, there are users, those who won't root or flash or etc, there are developers, like lithid who make awesome roms and kernels, and hackers (I can't think of a better term sorry) people like a lot of us here, who will root and flash stuff that we don't make. Well when people like developers and hackers start messing with stuff, it can cause instability. Now, when we root we void or warranty. So let's say HTC doesn't lock their phones, and there's no need to root. Someone comes along and seriously borks something, and ends up with a sexy paper weight. It'd still be under warranty, and HTC would be the one paying. Now we root and lose warranty, they have nothing to do with it. They guarantee us a stable phone, that's their job. You can see it as covering their rears, but its just business in my opinion.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tang12:
I honestly don't care why HTC lock bootloaders / frequencies. I just want to flash awesome stuff :D

sent from OG evo w/ synergy rls1
[EVO 4G Android Development] stkiswr:
Actually well said. Similar to modifying a car. You want performance? Warranty gone.

On a brighter note. Lithid, I know you are doing all you can but I can't wait for SBC. Your kernel is this best gingersense kernel I am using.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MizzouBrent:
Agreed. This kernel rocks. Running more v.9 and everything is great so far. Interactivex governor makes my phone sleep better than any aosp kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aadcrasher:
Haha I agree with you 100% I wanna get the best outa my phone, and thanks to lithid I can. I also can't wait for sbc! Thanks for all the work
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
I was specifically asking about the kernels this guy had made and what the differences were. I know what underclocking and undervolting and overclocking do. This isn't my first custom ROM or my first custom kernel. Thanks.

On the real topic of this thread, I installed the kernel and used it tonight and was watching it drain like water as I used it (no chance to calibrate it before I went out after installing it). Going on 2 hours with basic, pretty minimal usage it was at 60% and falling. I'm in the process of calibrating the battery now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
At 3 hours 47 minutes with fairly light usage I'm at 22% battery life.

Not what I was expecting. I'm going to let the battery drain completely and then charge it completely again per the instructions on Battery Calibrator.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jyarborough:
Ok,, that makes sense as well.. and not to worry,, no war will be started.. your eeason I one of many I feel that they do what they do. But u also reel that they lock them so those people that won't root/hack and want better phone will be forced to upgrade, renew there contract,, at a discounted price on new phone. As for me,, I love my evo,, because of the root exploit and grest devs I can make this OG EVO better and faster at my own risk.

And to the soft flame war that was rampant, as the owner of a phone it is your responsibility to know your phone... Take me for example.. I knew that I was going to get the EVO from the fist sneak peak at it fome android central, coming from my old not.rooted g1, some I began to read up on root,, roms, kernels etc.. to this day I will read,,Google before I come and ask a question.. nothing is more aggrivating than being asked the same thing over and over. Lithid is who he is,, that's it.. not every one is the way you are... Accept this... And if you can't then there are.plenty other roms, kernel that you can choose from... And next time you have an issue with some one PM THEM and don't flood the thread.. thanks

study to show thyself approved, a worksman that need not be ashamed to rightly divide truth
[EVO 4G Android Development] Alpine-:
Ya, same. I'm not sure whats changed. It NEVER happened before. The only difference is some apps I've installed or maybe a configuration change, but nothing major. I'm stumped. Is there a crashlog file that points to a certain app or cause for a crash and resulting loop?
[EVO 4G Android Development] JD2589:
Hey Guys,

If you guys are still having problems with bootloops on SOS, try changing your settings on SetCPU. Some users have reported that its been causing this issue.

JD
[EVO 4G Android Development] m20120:
I have had bootloops on multiple ROMs (mostly on Synergy RLS1 and MikG) when I use Freedom or ChopSuey if I use SetCPU to allow the clock to go as low as 128Mhz or if I use the More or Aggressive undervolting. Some Evos just do not like 128Mhz or the lower voltages. Mine is one of them. I have not had a bootloop since I stuck to Less Freedom and stopped allowing my CPU to clock at 128Mhz.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
This could also be related to some buggy regulator code. I am working on an update shortly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
Usually i would use set cpu and my phone would freeze and randomly reboot but havnet been using it lately and havent had one problem...cant wait for 9.5 when lithid adds the feature where its setup from the sd card
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
I got about 6 hours out of the battery last night with basic, light usage. Then it finally went to 0% and I recharged.

Does this stack up to what other people have experienced?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
No it is not.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbrawley1:
Is this normal for this much a drop I've barely used my phone or had the screen on..

10%drop per hour? or am i wigging out for nothing? lol im used to sbc but now im on 2.3.5 NRGZ Energy Rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] modmandan:
There are a couple of things I would check, I used to have the same issue and then noticed that when I looked at my settings\about phones\battery, that both the up time and awake time were the same and should not be. This simply means your phoen is not sleeping and eating up battery faster than it should.

I would check your "pri" version and make sure your not running any version above 1.77.

If you are running a newer version, consider downgrading it by following this...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1128135
[EVO 4G Android Development] stolirocks:
Going on 30 hours uptime, 7 hours awake, 17% left. freedom more, 245/883, interactivex, stock battery, moderate use. Very happy with this kern lithid rocks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Right. You know about undervolting yet u don't know what volts are measured in and what the differences are between -75 -125? Then you complain about the lack of customer service. Then u reply sarcastically when I provide info that should help. Well played. Seems if you know, you know. If you don't, you don't. I was just trying to help. From now on ill join the non informational post team. Thanks for your story though! Cheers.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bodyshop:
If you know the differences, then you are asking questions just for fun. In post 1 & 2 the differences are there relating to which kernel does what.

Lithid is not being an a hole . But you did ask questions like you are totally new to kernels. Then you state you know what oc uc &UV are. Then the only thing left is the differences in versions. Godmode pertains to Godmode ROMs which is why he said if you don't know what it is then you don't have it. Universal is just that Universal. Goes with what ever ROM you have. You're comments pushed him to reply that way. The time you spent typing you long comments, was enough time to google search & find our the differences in the 3 versions.

Good luck with your kernels.

Sent from Kinged SHOOTER EVO 3D/4G Hybrid Turbo/Super charged!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigtoysrock:
Some peoples kids...

BTW, Lith, kernel rocks the socks off bud.

OOPS wrong place
[EVO 4G Android Development] Alpine-:
Was this something new in .9?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
You also sarcastically provided a link on how to use Google. If you had left it as just the explanations, I wouldn't have had a problem with your response. But you pushed it into sarcastic territory.

I'm sorry you feel I'm a bother and I apologize that you received that impression from me. I also apologize for any sarcasm I gave you in response to what I felt was an attack against me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Alpine-:
Not enjoying you ****tards cluttering this otherwise normally informative thread with drama and drivel. Not enjoying seeing lith or barnes caught up in it either. Please just stop. Nobody cares, there is nothing to prove.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigtoysrock:
^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said...

OOPS wrong place
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
If everyone is cool now with each other, I'd like to actually discuss the kernel in an informative and friendly manner.

The phone has been off the charger for 12 minutes and I'm down to 90%. I know this is normal for a lot of kernels so I'm watching this situation very carefully. I had about a 5 minute phone call and that was it. I'm sitting here now watching it drain again and I'm down to 89 percent. Hopefully it'll get to the mid 80s and level out for a long while.

I've Googled why kernels work differently on the same model of phones and ROMs and found nothing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
That is because you should have read barns google search how to. In short the phones themselves are not different. The cpus are. No cpu is 100% as the next. This is why there are black edition AMD processors, and stock processors. Each phones clock speeds are not all tailored to 1GHz. some might be slightly more, or slightly less. etc etc. This is why each phone acts differently to changes to the kernel. Then kernel speaks to the cpu, memory and other hardware components. Since all our cpus are different, they then communicate differently.

Now for you battery. Your simply doing it wrong and without you sending me your phone and a price I can't tell you why its not working, something your going to have to figure out like a big boy. You should look up battery stats and at least wipe those after a full charge once each time you flash a new kernel, or upgrade the kernel. Your phones battery might be fine, just displaying wrong information. Also, display is a hungry son of a gun, sitting there watching your display just to simply watch it, could be another issue.

You seem like a really smart guy/girl and not afraid of anything, don't be a sad panda, im sure you will figure it out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Not trying to be rude just attempting to create a somewhat self efficient community to a degree especially in development. This is the last ill say on the topic. You have a wonderful afternoon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] b0ricua:
To derail the conversation slightly, I am very excited for the next iteration of this kernel!!!! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] JD2589:
Hey man,

I'm gonna answer your question. The first 10% if our battery goes down rather quickly due to HTC setting are kernel to only charge the battery up to 90%. Although it shows you have charged up to 100%.

Now you may ask why?

I guess for the safety and duration in long term of our battery.

JD
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rocklee99:
+1
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
I don't know what that means, there's not a *whole* lot of ways to search Google besides phrasing things certain ways.

I really don't know how to respond to that. I installed the ROM and the kernel directly as instructed. It's simply not working as it should.

I did. I wiped the battery and calibrated it.

When the battery says 5% and then shortly shuts down afterwards, can that caused by the battery relaying bad information to the phone?

---------- Post added at 05:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:16 PM ----------

Could this be a part of my problem? I'm running PRI 2.15_003.

Adding on....I found No Frills CPU Control on my phone. Here are the current settings:

Max Clock Frequency: 998 MHz

Min. clock Frequency: 245 MHz

Governor: Smartass

I/O Scheduler: deadline

Can anyone recommend any adjustments/tweaks to this? Could this have something to do with the low battery life (compared to everyone else's)?
[EVO 4G Android Development] iggogg:
One of the best tools I've found for improving battery life is Better Battery Stats, which I think you can find in a forum search here. Of particular interest is what is referred to as "partial wakelocks", which are when an application wakes up your phone for something like mail syncing, etc. You can save a lot of life by reducing the amount of access that apps have to waking.

The BBS thread has a lot of good info on how to use it and common hogs. Have a look. It's made a big difference for me.

BTW, I run Synergy with aggressive freedom and get plenty of life, at least 12 hours or more. SetCPU runs at 245-768 and smartass.
[EVO 4G Android Development] iggogg:
Forgot to say thanks, Lithid! This is the best kernel I have used. Very reliable and the under volting works great for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] edboston:
Use "betterbatterystats" in a market search.
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidsupra:
I've been running newt's supersonic3d for a week or so, and v9 aggressive kernel, it's been nothing for me to see 30+ hrs with moderate usage, 245/786 interactiveX, today with heavy usage including downloading a complete rom I still got over 10 hrs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
It might just be my phone, I never have seemed to get good battery life out of it, no matter what kernel/ROM I'm running on it.

I downloaded BBS and I'm trying to figure out how to use it with not a whole lot of luck, even reading the general overview/instructions/explanations.
[EVO 4G Android Development] buckhunter:
When you open BBS set the top option to Partial wakelocks and the next one to since unplugged then it will refresh the log and show you what apps are wake locking the phone and the amount of time they were waking the phone. You can also set the partial wakelock/since unplugged as the default view in the preference menu.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
I did that per your instructions, thank you.

This is what it looks like:

Now I'm just trying to decipher this. I understand what this means:

but I still don't really know how to decipher what my screen is telling me so I can follow the above instructions.

---------- Post added at 01:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------

I replied to your PM. Please let me know if it comes through because when I look in my "Sent" box, it shows nothing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] iggogg:
Looks like it hasn't acquired nearly enough data to be useful. Let it run for a while and check again. Today I just caught the latest Facebook update sucking down a lot of juice on background updates. I turned that right off to save that battery power.
[EVO 4G Android Development] buckhunter:
+1 fb will keep restarting and running in the background even if you kill it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbakid2000:
Yeah, I deleted Facebook as I don't even really use it in the first place.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
After letting the ROM/Kernel combo settle for a couple of days, this kernel is running great with Supersonic 3D RC1. Using Aggressive 0.9, 245/729 interactiveX. Moderate use, 10+ hrs off charger, 4+ hrs awake, >50% battery left.

NVM about the awake time... I realized while driving home that it was 4 hrs awake in the 32 hrs since reboot, not necessarily since taken off the charger. Regardless, still good performance. The awake time in this case is meaningless.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MizzouBrent:
I have had 7 hours of awake time today with about 90 minutes of screen time and overclocked to 1190 and I'm at 15%. Not too shabby. Running mikg 2.56 with more freedom and stock battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] usmaak:
This is kind of an out there question. Back in the early days of this kernel, before the static voltage choices, we were using ViperMod to tweak voltages. Since then I have completely wiped and flashed several ROMs and several iterations of this kernel. I am now on 0.9 Less. My question is, is it possible that the voltage changes made by ViperMod are still on my phone somehow? I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue with the camera flash on my phone. It is kind of weak. Where my wife's unrooted stock froyo HW003 phone's flash is very strong and equally lights the entire picture, my phone, also HW003, running SOS with 0.9 Less really only lights part of the picture. I've tried 0.9 and the stock kernel, and didn't see much in the way of improvement. I also tried the stock Gingerbread ROM (though theoretically SOS is stock), and nothing really good came out of it. The only thing I haven't done is try CM7 or Froyo. So while troubleshooting, it got me thinking to how I lowered the voltages using ViperMod. And that's how I arrived at this question. :)

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] engelsione:
I flashed that Agressive Kernel as is the best Kernel I have ever used. HDMI works and mirrors everything on my phone!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jlallman:
That couldn't be your problem, back when we had HAVS (this is what let you mess with your voltages) the voltages that were set weren't sticking so it was removed because it didn't do anything. Although vipermod said the voltages were different they were actually stock. Plus, after flashing a new rom and kernel voltages are always reset to stock anyway.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crammed174:
So i think this is my third time coming back to sense from different flavors or AOSP all because i cant get the damn hdmi to work. It worked once on me randomly on a cm nightly and ive already got a second cable in case that was it and tried on different tv's and monitors. Since ive long had trouble eith mirroring is there any way to see if the phone remotely detects a cable at any point or what exactly should i expect on the phone. Also is there a method to start mirroring like any specific order cuz i always take it to be PnP. Before i decide to unroot and all that to get service id like to know if its even worth it. Thanks guys and Lithid especially.

PS ignore my sig. Im on SOS 1.9.0.5 aggresive kernel now, was universal yesterday.

Update: No go on chopsuey .9.27 either. The phone did recognize hdmi for exactly half a second on aggressive so im going to try higher volts. Who knows.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sinnedone:
It should show an HDMI logo in the status bar as soon as the cable is plugged in. It works on the latest version on aggressive for me.

Seems odd, but you can flash a stock rooted rom and stock kernel to find out if the gallery app mirrors. Might be a bad Jack maybe? ??
[EVO 4G Android Development] cmonsterf50:
Yeah, I used HDMI out the other night. Works really nicely. Running Aggressive Freedom as well. I set my clock speed to 1152 to ensure there wasn't any issues. I was streaming YouTube over WiFi mirrored to TV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rocklee99:
My brightness sometimes switches to max by itself, why does this happen...?
[EVO 4G Android Development] a senile fungus:
Its a bug of the sense 3.0 ROMs...

Happens to me too.

~ I'm a fungi
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
I usually see this when I use a kernel and after I take a picture.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crammed174:
Yeah thats the symbol that came on for all of 1 second. Im gonna try stock/stock and see if that works. Hope its not the jack because thatll be an interesting repair issue.

Btw does it matter the order of plugging in. Like should the tv be off or should evo be screen off/not in an app etc etc

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluesk1d:
After installing this I have a couple problems. I am unable to get the phone to realize it is plugged into a computer and not just a charger. As a result I can't mount the card to transfer files. Also, when I have an incoming call, I have to unlock the phone before I can answer or see who is calling. Anyone else seen this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] buckhunter:
What rom are you on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ItsDon:
Do you still need HDMIWin from the Market or does full mirroring work "right out of the box" with Freedom .9? I'm running MikG2.56 BTW.
[EVO 4G Android Development] buckhunter:
No app needed. Its plug and play
[EVO 4G Android Development] oZo:
If USB connections are a problem, always go to the first rule.

1) Use a rear connection. Don't use the front header. Especially if flashing by RUU.

This may help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sinnedone:
I'd try to keep the evo screen on. If the screen goes to sleep on my device it freezes and requires a battery pull. It automaticly keeps screen on while mirroring though.

Maybe have TVs in already with the specific input already selected.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluesk1d:
Synergy (not god mode)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidley:
Really looking forward to v0.9.5 and sbc! Thanks for the great kernel!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ItsDon:
I think everyone is ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] sinnedone:
Lithid did you ever get anywhere with the Bluetooth tweaks to enable ps3 controllers?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
No, but I am actually going to work on that now instead. I think I am going to hold off on SBC for now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stkiswr:
Boo lol. Would an SBC donation fund change ur mind? I'm sure its a booger on the new gsense kernels. When froyo dropped many folks were making SBC kernels. Its appears that this only plauges 1st Gen snapdragon devices.

SBC is not the devil. HTC is. Such a great phone, let it charge! Thunderbolts don't have this issue.

I dunno. Lithid, if you decide not to, you current kernel still runs great for me. I just want my extra hours back. Selfish? Sure. Demanding? Nah, no demands here would go unrewarded :-) i woild even gladly be a tester and have solid feedback for you. I have been waiting since we got the gbread leak back in march or April.

Your development to date has been well appreciated here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] evoandroidevo:
ok is there any help on wifi i have the synergy-kingdom rom and i flashed this today but now when i try to turn on wifi it says error any help would be helpful

i really dont want to go back to my default kernel i like this kernel it does improve my battry life alot
[EVO 4G Android Development] guitarjockey:
I'm using your kernel lithid and i love it. I could care less about sbc but if comes it does. If you got.a problem with not having sbc move on no one is forcing you to use this kernel.

I've been on xda since 2008 and i hate the way I see developers get treated on here thats what's kept me from trying to make anything cause everyone loves it for 5 minutes then wants it their own way.

Edit: looks like the other guys post I was reffering to with this is now gone. So my post now makes no sense LOL
[EVO 4G Android Development] chaotic646:
Never mind
[EVO 4G Android Development] guitarjockey:
When you flash the kernel in recovery. Clear all your caches and stuff then mount the SD card the flash the kernel then unmount and reboot.

Youll never have a problem again. I made the same mistakr you did and then I read how to fix it.