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[HTC EVO 3D] Moose8106:
So I have an EVO 3d and was thinking of switching to T-mobile... obviously I chose the Sensation. I immediately popped in a spare battery that I had for my Evo 3d (stock, 1730 mah, fully charged and ready to go) and I noticed over the next few days that I was getting similar battery life to my EVO 3D (by similar I mean literally a difference within minutes... both phones lasted me from 12-14 hours with the same amount of usage). One day I forgot to charge my phone, so I popped in the stock Sensation battery (1520 mah). Theoretically I should have reduced battery life... right? Wrong. My battery nearly doubled. Was the Sensation packaged with a better battery than ours, despite the fact that the EVO 3d's is bigger? Would the 3d's battery life be better and last longer with the Sensation's battery? Obviously this observation is completely crap if we don't get someone to test this. I don't have my 3d accessible for a few days (long story), so does anyone want to test this who has a Sensation's battery lying around?
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
If the 1730mAh battery is operating at anything under 90% then it would make sense for the Sensation's battery to last just as long, if not longer than the EVO 3D's--if the Sensation's battery was operating at over 95% that is.
[HTC EVO 3D] pkny:
I do notice that the sensation manages battery a bit better then the evo. First the screen would dim in a shorter amount of time then the evo. This is the dim before the shutoff. Next the capacitance buttons turn off when not in use unlike the evos continuous on, the buttons are also a bit dimmer when there is a light source and the vibrations are not as intense.

The wifi also seems to be managed better for some reason.
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
Well the sensation isn't 3D either. It takes a lot of juice to run 3D. Now if hardware and software were exact, and the sensation battery lasted longer, then perhaps you'd be onto something. But the 3D has a good amount more going on then the sensation. Did you think about that?
[HTC EVO 3D] Moose8106:
Both are brand new. They should be both running at 100%

They are essentially the same phone with the same internals (excluding radios). Plus, they are running the same software. All power management is the same. But what I'm thinking is that maybe the Sensation's battery is of better quality and maybe if we used a Sensation battery, our battery life will run longer. I might get my 3D back today, so I'll be able to test.

3D is ONLY on when you're watching 3d videos or taking a picture. Otherwise, 3D has no effect on battery draw. Again, I'm not saying our battery life should beat the Sensation's, I'm just pointing out that maybe our battery (physical battery in the back of the phone)isn't up to par with the Sensation's battery.
[HTC EVO 3D] pkny:
The capacitance buttons light even though maybe insignificant coupled with the more intense vibration draws a good amount of power. The buttons are used a lot when the screen is on.
[HTC Sensation] HannoSLM:
Hello,

Is there a way to make the fliashlight work even at low battery level? Mine stops working when the battery is 30% or less !?!?!? very stupid, may be at 5% is ok ..... but 30!?

thanks in advance
[HTC Sensation] kabuk1:
Maybe try a different flashlight app. I like Tesla LED.
[HTC Sensation] khaled1994:
go in the settings

1-power settings

2-power saver

make power saver the turn on at 10%:)
[HTC Sensation] HannoSLM:
when i got the phone, one of the first things i've done is to turn off the power saver :)
[HTC Sensation] BonesRed:
Install "Extended Controls" and place a widget for the flashlight on one of your homescreens. I just tried my flashlight and it works, my battery is at 7% right now, with Power Saver Turned Off. This way you don't need to install any more flashlight apps, you have flashlight toggle ability with one touch from a homescreen, plus you have an awesome app that does A LOT more than just toggle on your Rear Camera LED.

Also, Extended Controls is just absolutely awesome to have because of the ability to customize functionality widgets to the fullest. A must on any and every android device that I own.
[HTC Sensation] PartyMango:
Just bought it per your recommendation - I can only agree, the Extended Controls are great: A perfect addition to HTCs built-in "Quick Settings" in the notification drawer.
[HTC Sensation] bonesy:
Maybe once more people have S-OFF developers can tweak this to run at low battery settings, Probably some Smali editing
[HTC Sensation] paultje_007:
Anyone know a real fix for this yet?

My Desire HD won't use the flashlight in Camera modus when battery is below 15% while the energysave option in settings is turned off.

Can it be hacked to below 5% ???
[HTC Sensation] dr.m0x:
Latest leedroid kernel doesn't force torch of until it hits 15% but forcing it down to 5% would be silly as the phone powers off at 5%

:)

Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod
[HTC Sensation] dedepene:
Good find - solved more than one problem for me ;)
[HTC Sensation] paultje_007:
Thats stupid, my DesHD shuts down until all the way to 1% left.

Not 5%...

If I still have 5% left, I bet I can take a guick picture with flashlight and still have 30 to 60 min. left off battery power, enough to check incoming messages.

(maybe not to check facebook or twitter with 3G or make 30 min calls, but plenty juice to answer a phone and tell the other person where I am, or sent a reply message of where i am at the time. 5% is more than you think. I once had 1% left, and I closed all backgroundrunning programs and killed the internet connection and the phone went on for almost another hour!!)

So killing the flashlight for taking photos from still having 15% juice is lame.

Besides, as Android is socalled "open source" and userfriendly, they should let the users decide (with an options/settings menu?) if the flashlight should be killed at 15% or not.

Not the developers.
[HTC Sensation] Harmani:
Are there any custom roms out there that do not make use of this "feature" at all? Would it be easy to implement?
[HTC Sensation] AudiHeel:
My phone was still running yesterday with 2% left...just sayin
[HTC Sensation] dr.m0x:
Ok I could be wrong about the 5% figure, haven't had a flat battery in months.

Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod
[HTC Sensation] F-Styla:
I also started I thread on this topic. Seems like the developers are not interested in releasing a mod for this issue.
[HTC Sensation] kumoc:
Mine stop light at 10% i set on the power saving option
[HTC Sensation] Harmani:
Which thread? So I can +1 :D
[HTC Sensation] masondoctorjt:
Even with my power saver totally disabled,my flashlight won't work at under30%. But what frustrates me more is that the flash won't work on the camera either. Please I want the flash to work even at 5%!
[HTC Sensation] Robert342:
Try CM11.
[HTC Sensation] Harmani:
The answer I've been waiting for for 6 years :victory:
[HTC Sensation] Robert342:
Ok. The pleasure is all mine. I've got the same issue on my device and any existing app doesn't resolve this problem of flashlight. But I tested many versions of CM and in this custom rom that problem wasn't exist. I'm curious, why? What should I do in system files on stock rom for resolve this problem? I've got stock Android 5.1 now. My device is Oukitel K10000.
[Atrix 4G General] shadowskorch:
I did a clean flash and upgraded to the gingerbread update. I like the transitions but wondered if you can change the screen transition animations?
[Atrix 4G General] cwburns32:
Launcher Pro, GO Launcher Ex, etc.
[Atrix 4G General] valliance:
Do u mean window transition?? Do u want the flip animation??
[Atrix 4G General] shadowskorch:
I meant the window transitions
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
the answer is no.
[Atrix 4G General] Pat123:
Try "Anim Mod" from Market! Should work!
[Atrix 4G General] shadowskorch:
I tried anim mod but said it can't change transitions
[HTC EVO 3D] Yogi3:
Hello ALL,

What would you all say if you had to get a exchange for another EVO 3D or since I'm within my 30 days change it for the Photon 4G and just pay the restocking fee?

I do want to point out I am have had a Nexus S 4G and now a 3D but I have now had this phone for a week and I'm running into random rebooting more often in the last 2 days :( ... I love the battery live and don't mind the QHD screen. And maybe some will tell me to wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2 but that won't be out till late September in my opinion ... That's the phone I would rather have but can't so closest phones would be the 3D or the Motorola Photon 4G...

Thanks to anyone that reads or replies ...
[HTC EVO 3D] cwhickey420:
Why would you want a photon, you would be downgrading, the tegra 2 chip is like a year old already and on top of that the bootloader is locked down tight, while ours is on the verge of being unlocked. I thought about the photon too but after some research I found this to be the better phone, and random reboots will be a thing of the past once we can start flashing and get off the sometimes buggy stock.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
This right here. The only reason to switch is if you wanted the old HDMI cable to work and a kickstand.
[HTC EVO 3D] fester225:
I'm swapping for the photon. I've had too many problems. The 3d is a good phone but htc left a bad taste in my mouth. Just my opinion. PS there was a guy who bought a photon Dev phone early and he gave it great praise. In the end it just comes down to what makes you happy regardless of which processor is in it.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
The battery life is tempting, but that thing looks like a brick.
[HTC EVO 3D] smarcin:
To both you and the OP, I guess the Photon looks good, if you don't want to root and run custom ROMS, then? If you do want to root and ROM, then I'd stick with the 3D. Or, get something you can run til the Samsung Galaxy S2 comes out. But, my husband has the Epic, also Samsung. It has little support for ROMS. He's probably going to switch to my OG Evo, now that I have the 3D. So many more ROMS for the OG Evo, and mine's already rooted...
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
I am so not a fan of Motorola phones. I think they have the worst design team out of all of the phone manufacturer's and they usually run as good as they look. (like sh!t)
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
Just watched a video of the Photon. Doesn't look too impressive to me. I noticed that it seemed to have a similar issue to some Samsung phones with the capacitive buttons not being that responsive and the kickstand (to me at least) seems stupid. I have an Evo 4G and never found a use for the kickstand. It was more of a pain in the arse to try and use than anything and it is a far more gimmicky feature than 3D would ever be.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. You might want to start asking for a Photon forum now if they don't already have one.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
I had enough of the tegra 2... If you want a 2009( they started rolling out) chip on a 2011 device, more power to you.
[HTC EVO 3D] kkwus74:
I'm getting the photon4g for sure mainly because it's a world phone. Need it for use overseas as I don't wanna keep paying roaming fees. It gets pretty costly. Moreover it really issnt that bad specs wise for a second phone :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] karate134:
It seems everything is coming out half-baked nowadays. The so-called gold standard, iPhone, even comes out half baked. Well it comes without features, that's just it's design, but I mean whatever it has came out troubled.

I went from the Samsung Epic to 3VO. If you think 3VO is half-baked, man, the Epic is worse. Sure you can root it, etc etc, but it was only until recently the DEVs here started fixing what Samsung couldn't, or rather wouldn't.

Personally, remain patient. The lack of patience is what's getting so many people into trouble nowadays :inserting rant: The Photon I bet will have some errors and a lack of an ability to do ROMs I bet.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
HTC supports and respects the developing community, Motorola said in a press release "if you want to hack your phone, get an HTC". Basically giving the middle finger to the modders. That alone makes me not want to spen my money towards a company that wont listen to their customers. Plus it has blur...yuck.
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
Tegra 2 chipsets mite b a lil older but they perform way better den dual core snapdragons 3vo is not a true dual core imo
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
What makes it not a dual core? Does it only have half of a second core?

There is no "opinion " it either is a dual core or it isn't.

Sent from my HTC Evo 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
I dont get why people are dissing the tegra 2 as if its some terrible chip when it's just as capable as the snapdragon in the 3D.. especially if you play games. Let's not let the fanboyism shade reality here. I'm just sayin...
[HTC EVO 3D] firsttimer44:
Yeah I'm still undecided if I want to exchange the 3d for the photon. I guess the only thing holding me back is the uncertainty of ever obtaining root.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
When I get home tonight...I will see if I can find the bench marks for the tegra 2 and the current chip in the EVO 3d. You will see the comparisons and will be suprised the one in the EVO 3d smokes and blows away the tegra 2. Its not even close if I remember...but my memory is going...:)
[HTC EVO 3D] krispy521:
I would exchange the Evo 3d for another one. Mine doesn't do any random reboots.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Last I checked Snapdragon in the Evo 3D scored lower than the original Galaxy S line.

Photon and Evo 3D will both perform very well in games. Tegra 2 is losing it's touch though, just because it's becoming older. It's still good enough to keep up with current technology for at least the next year. And answer me this, is there a single android phone right now that doesn't have a root method? Trust me, the Photon will be rooted. The only problem is whether you'll be able to flash a custom recovery or not.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
When comparing my E3D to my wife's Epic 4G my E3D wins in benchmark testing, though not by as much as would be expected. The hummingbird GPU was and still is pretty amazing and even with all of these dual core newer procesors coming out, it still hangs near the front of the pack.
[HTC EVO 3D] irishgreen:
I dont know what benchmarks you guys are using but any and all i have run my scores smoke any tegra 2 phone especially since these tests really only test one of the evos cores!!
[HTC EVO 3D] aznmode:
I've seen videos of the photon and it looked really smooth. Now I wouldn't want to buy a motorola but regardless the photon was not bad at all. Tegra 2 might be a year old but if it works and you like it then why not. My Evo 4g had a 1g snapdragon that was also dated already when I bought it last year but I still bought the phone and was very happy with it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jungle Jack:
Hello,

The Photon having 16gb's of Internal Memory is quite impressive. However, it appears as though it is loaded with a great deal of Bloatware.

As for the World Phone Capabilities, that is definitely a consideration for those who are frequent International Travelers. What I have wondered with the 3D is that it has both a CDMA and GSM Chipset. With this being the case, I wonder what it would take to make the 3D a World Phone.

Obviously, with the 3D not having a SIM Card, this seems to be an impossibility. I suspect the GSM Hardware is there for commonality with the European EVO 3D.

Cheers,

JJ
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
You are correct..the galaxy is better in scores...but his reply was the tegra is better then the snapdragon inside. Not the case, having had the iconia, and owning the transformer I can tell you by using and testing...not with that pos quadrant...it is simply not the case....I am not even talking graphics wise either...but raw power and speed.
[HTC EVO 3D] n2ishun:
The GalaxyS had a hummingbird, not a snapdragon.

Factory clocked at 1ghz, most were able to run at 1.4ghz (mine certainly did).

Consistant quadrant scores in the 1900-2100 range.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Just get the Samsung Galaxy S II. You'll be happy you waited.
[HTC EVO 3D] xusxmarinesx:
hey guys I am a best buy employee and just got my hands on the photon 4g to test it out. I put it threw its tests from taking pictures to benchmarks to qualcomms mobile benchmarks everything i can think of. camera is better then the evo 3d screen color seems to be better as well. beat the 3vo in all benchmarks except the mobile benchmark. i think motoblur is crap so i choose my sense anyday. but the gpu isnt as good as the qualcomm gpu also when you put the kickstand down it automatically goes into desktop mode pretty cool feature. each core on the photon is clocked at 1ghz so also remember that. i am a owner of an 3vo and i still choose my phone over photon
[HTC EVO 3D] buckeye25osu:
Sorry, but wtf is everyone talking about saying the Tegra 2 is old? The chipset was developed in 2010, but it takes phone manufacturers a while to get them integrated and a phone actually released. If you think other upcoming chipsets will be much different, I think you'll be surprised. Tegra 2 phones were just released this year (in March I think...)

Fan boys.....
[HTC EVO 3D] Forrest250r:
Not to point out the already everywere news for folks wanting the GSII, it hits in mid august. Id def reccomend that over a lame motorola, yes itll be a good phone, but its got a bit of dated hardware, and a lot of bloat. either way for people curious or just not in the know, the SII hits here in a few weeks!

and as a fan of HTC, and a person who loves my 3VO, id say its definitely my new favorite phone, for alot of reasons.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
Not
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
You can't expect a company that made Blur, terrible designs for phones, and is bankrupt to be your next investment.

HTC arguably is your best bet outside of the Nexus series.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
It's the same case with HTC, they're being sued by Apple...
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
http://www.evo3dforums.com/forum/ht...m8660-processing-muscle-shown-film-video.html

http://androidforums.com/2743027-post24.html

But then...

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/16/benchmark-shows-htc-pyramids-dual-core-snapdragon-cant-best-tegra-2/

It seekslike I viewed the biased reviews...I would of sworn it beat it out. But to be honest now...I really don't know.. oh well....so much for what I said earlier. I was wrong and I admit it..is seems like you could be selective...I found some very biased reviews....
[HTC EVO 3D] di11igaf:
Have you ever used a phone with a tegra 2?. Just asking since your saying they perform better. Right now I have a tablet with a tegra 2 and an atrix(as I did come over from ATT). The tegras gpu is ok, but the CPU IMHO is horrible. I've never in my life seen ANYTHING dual core lag as much as an atrix. This is gods honest truth, and I literally have the atrix sitting in front of me right now. It's pretty bad lag wise. I'm talking bone stock galaxy s with no lag fix bad but worse.

Anyone can call me a liar if they want, but I have no reason to lie, and if anyone is really interested, maybe I'll post a video to show how bad it is. The tegra in the atrix or my transformer can't even handle a live wallpaper without lagging all to hell.

Personally I'll take the dual core snapdragon over the no neon supporting, unable to smoothly play a live wallpaper or 720p video tegra 2 anyway.

Right now i have-

2 captivates

2 inspires

1 atrix working and one hard bricked(thanks motorolla- yes brickd trying to find a way to get a custom recovery on the phone)

2 sensations(spent a few days on T-Mobile- haven't seen 2g that much on my screen since the 90's)

1 transformer

1 galaxy tab 10.1

2 EVO 3ds

The evos and sensations are the the fastest/smoothest out of the whole bunch. Period.

The inspire is second but mostly cause It's running my aosp ROM- not /that/ smooth w/ sense.

All the rest are ok, with the atrix (running 2.3.4 with only a little init work done by me) in dead last.

Just my opinion- take it however you want.

Edit-before anyone misquotes me or thinks I'm just trying to hate on the tegra, I hope the photon is better than the atrix. I'm thinking the atrix has a pre release or very early build tegra 2. It seems to only handle a ~1.1-1.2 overclock, where other devices with tegra 2 are overclocking to 1.7 and seem stable past 1.5

But it also will have a locked boot loader, so who knows it will actually take for moto to unlock it
[HTC EVO 3D] Torrentula81:
People are talkin how old the Tegra two is like its out dated or something. I have yet to see a SINGLE game or app to cause worry about its age. I mean reallly if 1.5 dual core came out how would that help me any besides gloating about my scores. The sg2 plays dungeon defenders at 60 fps. Trade off, now you need oven mittens to play. What's wrong with 30 fps?

The market has a long long ways to go before we can even consider Tegra 2 or any decent 1.0 dual core phone outdated.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Man please... I have a 3D and this processor STILL struggles with certain live wallpapers just like the first Evo did. Some of them literally bring the phone to a crawl and sense has its laggy moments too. Running the Nexus revamped wallpaper on this phone still slows it down too.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tbonekilla:
Which ones? I would like to try them. My 3D has handled all live wallpapers like a champ so far.

Sent from my Johnny Five.
[HTC EVO 3D] Yogi3:
I appreciate everyone's input and don't mean to disrespect anyone.

I do have the following questions and opinions.

I though Motorola's where good again with all the success they have had with the Droid X, X2, Droid 1-3. I though they where back as being "good" to own.

Also someone mentioned that the Tetra 2 came out in 2009... And like I said I don't mean to sound rude but the 1st phone to come out with it wasn't it the LG Optimus 2x aka the G2x here in the states. And that came out what Jan 2011 or Dec 2010. And back in 2009 I was using a HTC PRO and that I think rocked a 800mz processor.

Also I will say I'm a Samsung fan boy but when I saw the HTC Sensation on T-Mobile I say to myself I need that phone but didn't want to move back to T-Mobile. I like the Samsung Epic I have one that I bought it for my mom and its just like the Samsung Galaxy S 4G I had with T-Mobile but with a physical keyboard. And the 3D may I say its one if the best made cellphone I have had.

But I don't really mind the ability to not root or flash roms. All I want is something that will get me till the next phone comes around. I do dislike buggy OS and I think the root of the issue lies on the Scene 3 that's causing the random restarts.
[HTC EVO 3D] anti-up:
Jeesh... 2guys I work with just each won photons today, I'm so jealous. I won't find out until Monday if I win or not. *fingers crossed*

SHOTS FIRED!! From my 3Dimension shooter!
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
That was me that said it rolled out in late 09...the first prototype for usage for

The companies came out 1st quarter...the first production dual core phone came out December

Of last year...the optimus. I had a friend test for motorola and we talked about the state of affairs regarding phones and dual cores with quad cores coming out in the future.
[HTC EVO 3D] KingKuba13:
I don't know what benchmarks you are using either....

Evo 3d

Smartbench Productivity/Gaming = pathetic

Quadrant = pathetic

Sunspider = pathetic

BrowserMark = pathetic

You can OC, manipulate, ROM whatever, you will still get beat by an Overclocked Tegra 2 doing the same.

Sad and Funny, @1.8ghz and still slow......

Are you going to show me 6000/5000 smartbench? No...even if you did that still does not "smoke any.."
[HTC EVO 3D] KingKuba13:
2009 beats 2011...:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] King_tee:
Im not into the spec wars or anything but im just curious to know what is a bad bench mark score and a bad linpack score. I just got a 2395 on quadrant and an 86.674 linpack. Just curious.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tbonekilla:
Still waiting on live wallpapers that will make my 3D "crawl."

Sent from my Johnny Five.