yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] deksudi:
Here is some word from HTC about this upgrade :

This update is only recommended for expert users who want to experience Android 2.3 and understand the limitations which apply to this update. Due to memory constraints several applications have been removed from this update and we are only offering the ROM upgrade utility (RUU) for you to download. Please note that flashing this ROM will erase your previous customizations, including any messages, emails, contacts, and other personal information. We suggest you take advantage of your Google account and other backup solutions available on the Android Market to ensure you do not lose your personal data. Your SD card will not be erased or modified.

The major changes in this update include:

All customizations, including operator applications, will be removed.

All wallpapers, except the default wallpaper, will be removed from the ROM code and included in the zip file.

Several HTC applications will be removed from the ROM code and included in the zip file.

The official Facebook application will be removed and is downloadable on the Android Market.

Note:

This ROM update is for development only and not for general public use. Upgrades to non-authorized phones may result in loss of functionality. In addition certain functions may no longer be usable after re-flashing the ROM, including but not limited to MMS and SMS and HTC also disclaims liability for any unusable functions. HTC disclaims liability for the loss and/or leakage of any personal data resulting from the re-flashing of the ROM.

Exclusions:

The following regional variants are not-compatible with this upgrade: Germany (Telekom Deutschland), North America, South Korea, and Japan.
[Desire General] erklat:
You have the official here, if that is what you asked for?
[Desire General] :
to sum up: not mush /if at all user related content added, but core functionality removed. Nicely played HTC
[Desire General] nctrns:
So this means there will be no OTA? Is this HTC's final word?
[Desire General] tickmaster:
Yes no OTA, due to some bigger changes in filesystem probably.

Just save all your settings and apps, contacs and sms and emails and whatever. Then download and run RUU.

It will update your phone.

BUT: Note: This Rom update is for development only and not for general public use.
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Am I going to install it now.
[Desire General] coolexe:
only one word...u know which one....:mad::mad::mad:

okz so finally we don't have officially sense 2.1...bcoz of we don't have memory...??? correct...NOW SOON I WILL RELEASE AN NEW ROM WITH FULL ODEX FILE SYSTEM...INCLUDED FRAMEWORK FOLDER...WHICH FIT IN 250MB SYSTEM...BY JUST REMOVING ONLY LOCATION APP...
[Desire General] alpha-dog:
i love how htc covered themselves. only reason i wanted an OTA update is so i can keep all my old setting etc... but sure ill just wait for a custom ROM made from the developer update.
[Desire General] alpha-dog:
seriously by removing one more app? and more specifically an app we can download from the market anyways?
[Desire General] coolexe:
yes facebook, twitter n all google apps downloaded from market...this not included in my upcoming ROM
[Desire General] 08r3308:
So if we install this would alpharev work later if we dont like it. Noticed new hboot i think
[Desire General] itachi1706:
All I want to know is, is this RUU update rootable?
[Desire General] copas2:
I don't entirely agree with your last sentence. HTC is very careful though. They obviously couldn't make an OTA because of those changes which will later be explained here I think.

I still appriciate HTC's move a bit since they could've just ignored Android 2.3 for the Desire and stayed at current circumstances. From this point of view this is much-much better than nothing. And viewing it from an other angle, it's very sad that these kind of devices extinct in such a short time. My Desire is a bit older than a year. These moves make me feel that it is already outdated.
[Desire General] ShotMe:
Thanks for your hard work coolexe, do you base new rom on the ruu update?
[Desire General] Pyr0wl:
Oh, wait, huh?

So, let me get this straight: this ROM is meant to be taken apart and be messed with? E.g, developer use.

Normal users aren't meant to flash this for regular use?

And do you lose root when you flash this?

Anyway, I think it's kinda cool that HTC released a ROM, just for our dev community :) Although it's a little bit disappointing that Sense 2.1 isn't included. Ah well, at least we have an official GB ROM :)
[Desire General] heraSK:
indeed, how's the camcorder working? in IC CM7 GB rom video tends to go out of sync with audio. note that i don't mean the lag on 720p. that'll hardly get better with this hardware... has anyone tried it yet?
[Desire General] alpha-dog:
i wonder if that is now HTC stopping development and hoping XDA developers will do their work for them or if they just released that to keep people quite...
[Desire General] Mouzy:
Can anyone tell my if I flash that ROM on rooted HTC Desire with S-ON can I later flash other ROM (custom)
[Desire General] howdid:
why not no problem for me im user of xda : )
[Desire General] Tillus:
here we go, Gingerbread Update: http://developer.htc.com/ :D
[Desire General] nickislauw:
I am installing it lol, think partitions have changed too, i will report all back guys!
[Desire General] howdid:
omg guy can u read seriously ???? :mad:
[Desire General] nickislauw:
lol im quite excited about it XD though there are no big changes or something

LOL: new hboot version is 1.02.0001 and radio version is from the leak!!!!: 5.17.05.23

EDIT2: booting
[Desire General] Tillus:
hmm?

Edit: sorry.:o
[Desire General] xblx:
Installed and working fine so far:

Android version 2.3.3

Baseband 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23

Kernel 2.6.35.10-g3f4272

htc-kernel@and18-2 #1

Tue Jun 14 21:11:23 CST 2011

Build number 3.14.405.1 CL96875 release-keys

Browser Webkit/533.1

Hardware info mentions WIFI 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR

Clock flipping, some improvements.

Mail 2.00.000.096875.405 (was 2.00.0037.293415 ??)

Internet 2.3.3 (was 2.2)

Flashplayer 10.1.106.15 (latest market 10.3 -> waste of space imho)

etc.

Some applications have lower version number than latest Froyo ROM. Music player not improved, no sound enhancement. No improved status bar.

Video recording at 720p works, no improvement from previous ROM.

I think the custom ROM's based on the new kernel and drivers will be the way forward.
[Desire General] erklat:
You are 3 hours behind with that news.
[Desire General] alpha-dog:
i wonder what orange will do to this developer version of the software lulz
[Desire General] nickislauw:
I have to say that the build is quite speedy though :o
[Desire General] Embattle:
Well mine is ok so far.
[Desire General] Tillus:
And you are behind the news, that I already realized my lapse. You even quoted it. :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Smiffyboots:
Indeed >.<

Sticking to my custom ROM. Don't like the re-rooting idea with that new Hboot change!
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Is this update rootable?
[Desire General] nickislauw:
now running unrevoked lol
[Desire General] dakiza:
We are expecting good news
[Desire General] Lothaen:
let me know if it works ;P
[Desire General] nickislauw:
Im running unrevoked now.. lets see how it goes ;)
[Desire General] Bingley:
Does unrevoked work on the new ruu?
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Did you already checked, just in the remote case, if the ruu give u a rom already with root permission and s-off? (htc say this update is for dev only, so "maybe" they make it easy :) )
[Desire General] TVTV:
Just talked to HTC Romania. They say that it's not recommended to install this update, as it's for development purposes only. They have said with great certainty (i have asked them a yes/no question) that an official 2.3 OTA update WILL follow, but they haven't said WHEN. So if you can hold your horses, do hold'em. ;)
[Desire General] nickislauw:
i bet they wont ;)
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Sense is not 2.1 it's modified 1.0 Sense, nothing special they put fast boot, and some minor changes in UI.
[Desire General] nickislauw:
Nope, unrevoked isnt working lol. just sits there "waiting for root (safe to restart if this doesnt work".

So returning to a froyo RUU now.
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Damn. I will just wait for devs to release rooted version.
[Desire General] Lechux:
yea, here is also something about the OTA http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_gingerbread_update_released-news-2949.php
[Desire General] 08r3308:
I hope you can return to froyo, because of hboot change
[Desire General] nickislauw:
well propably i can ;) otherwise im screwed ghehe
[Desire General] KiraYoma:
Wow Peter Chou just raped us with this ****, even X10 has a better official GB rom. Next phone will be a Nexus or Sammy.

Now I am going to root and s-off again!
[Desire General] nickislauw:
lol have you installed the dev 2.3??

cause you cant root that one ;P
[Desire General] nickislauw:
nice im screwed lol, XD "main version is older" update failed.. -__-"
[Desire General] Lothaen:
you would think being a dev release that it'd be unlocked at least...

any one able to check to see if the privacy setting menu is back? they removed it and you couldnt use google backup on the official froyo :(
[Desire General] 08r3308:
Yeah all this wait for nothing, love the phone but support is plain ****.
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Complain to HTC. Lol.:P
[Desire General] Lothaen:
doh

must remember not to flash

I suppose that unrevoked/alpharev thing: revolution.io won't help?
[Desire General] nickislauw:
lol, they arent supporting 'downgrades' and 'root' so kinda impossible to explain.. but **** lol, now i got that stupid 2.3 update haha..
[Desire General] Smii:
It makes me sad that people get so angry (see Facebook comments) about silly things on the internet.

OHMYGOSH I HATE HTC BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A COMPLETE OTA UPDATE WITH ALL THE LATEST STUFFS!

Well, I'm using Gingerbread and Sense 2.1 from Gingerburst at the moment and I can tell you, it doesn't perform amazingly. In fact, I'm contemplating going back down to Froyo to get performance back.

It's just something I find really disappointing, that we get so worked up over something that is ultimately so trivial to the point where people are threatening/saying they'll "never ever buy another HTC phone again over this!"

Really? It's not that big a deal! There are obviously hardware constraints here, the phone is over a year old now. And whilst that isn't physically very long, in terms of how fast mobile hardware is moving on, it is a long time.

As for the people saying "FINE I'LL ROOT THEN AND INVALIDATE MY WARRANTY" (these are quotes by the way) - well, if you've ever rung HTC and talked to them about warranty and rooting/flashing, they're fine with it anyway, and the chap I spoke to on the phone gave me their official statement which is along the lines of "HTC are committed to giving the customer the freedom to use their phone however they want, and support them in unlocking the bootloader and installing new software" - so long as you don't do anything stupid.

So you know. This hasn't turned me off HTC. I'm amazed they've continued down this road - it would have been easier for them to not have bothered. They said they couldn't do it, they got crap from their customers. They say they will do it, struggle, have difficulties, finally get a working version out the door - with a caveat that says it has limitations - and they get crap from their customers.

Turns out you can't win. At least they listened and gave it a go.

Why can't we all grow up?

Please note: this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread particularly, more the people on Facebook. I'm just venting my frustrations.
[Desire General] nickislauw:
nope XD

esdfesf
[Desire General] Bingley:
So what we know is 2.3 is ruu-only atm, it's old Sense, it's uunrootable, and you cannot use an older ruu to un-ruu due to a new version/hboot? So much for opening your bootloaders with ease, HTC. What gets me is how they're totally silent apart from the lame FB post and dev notes, and how CS is clueless as to what's happening and are giving conflicting info.
[Desire General] 08r3308:
Hehe i aint installing it . Cm7 love you lol.

Man htc making fools of us, with all these updates and no memory , unlocking bootloaders all big fat lies
[Desire General] Pyr0wl:
Yeah, there won't be an OTA.

Source: @MarkMoons on Twitter.

translated: "This is THE update for the HTC Desire. There won't be an OTA. Just old fashioned via the cable..."

You should've read the disclaimer before you started.

This RUU is irreversible.
[Desire General] Bingley:
What also gets me is the Sense roms are the only ones which support 720p video, and I don't want it using apps2sd so those roms are out for me. Oxygen et al roms are awesome, super-small, but I really love the 720p camera and thus seem stuck with Sense.
[Desire General] Embattle:
So if you install the Dev build then the next upgrade that'll work is going to be the OTA....ofc this being if they actually release one.
[Desire General] cartus:
HTC Romania told me that this is not the official update, it will be announced on HTC's official facebook page facebook .c o m / HTC
[Desire General] Meaple:
The 2.3 update is **** as ****. Why is it that our devs can beat HTC (infact all manufacturers) and have 2.1 Sense with a 3.0 lockscreen and still fit it onto nand.

And for all of you that are complaining, you should of rooted.
[Desire General] vr5411:
This is crap!

Wildfire S has equal or even smaller amount of memory and comes with GB and Sense 2.1.

Also, I have two years of warranty (now in a middle of that period) and this is proper official support?!

No!

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] :
HTC - Quietly sodomizing
[Desire General] Smii:
There are other handset manufacturers have chosen not to provide Android updates where handset limitations cause problems. *shrug*

I've got 2.3.3 on my Desire from the Gingerburst rom - it's got Sense 2.1 and it doesn't run amazingly well. The improvements from Gingerbread aren't so incredible that I'm upset about all this. In fact, I'm considering going back to Froyo and Sense 1 because it just runs better.

If you don't like it, root and do it yourself.
[Desire General] Bingley:
So if people can fit custom sense roms on the nand+sd card & HTC can fit it all on the nand by removing a few apps and wallpapers why don't all custom roms do this and fit it on the nand and not have to use the sd card for useless stuff like wallpapers and teeter.apk?
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
I am waiting for XDA team to cook something good out of this new krnel becouse original one sucks as ****, it is faster and some other minor things, but same sanse, same notification bar, well 5 month developing almost nothing, good job HTC Team.
[Desire General] TVTV:
Last update, then i'm out of this madness:

Have a nice day, everybody!
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Oh boy, i think we will have our Q&A forum section really active in the upcoming days, i doubt people will still wait for official OTA. :D
[Desire General] yorkshiretyke:
Just did the update and already spotted a problem with the flip clock! When screen first unlocked the time is an hour and two mins behind! But immediately changes to the correct time (uk time).

Anyone else got this problem??
[Desire General] ToFast:
It's not a bug, it's a feature :-)

This way you always see the fliping effect...
[Desire General] TrTech:
Who cares about an OTA, if we now know that it improves nohing? It will be the same castrated crap like the RUU, I think.

Oh and btw:

The new Wildfire may have same hardware, but due to the smaller screen resolution, the system files are much smaller. Therefore there are no space problems.

SO STOP BULLSHITRAGING ABOUT THIS!
[Desire General] yorkshiretyke:
Well that's one way of looking at it! Lmao
[Desire General] DRMON:
This is stupid, no OTA? Sigh.
[Desire General] Yann2011:
Ok so we are stuck with that crap update, especially those who run the ruu? ****...
[Desire General] nickislauw:
like me yes
[Desire General] yorkshiretyke:
And me lol!
[Desire General] xk315:
Desire OTA

Well , this was a bit of a mess by HTC, but as long as the XDA cooks can get the best of this update then it's all good.

plus, im quite sure it's only 1 year warranty?
[Desire General] nickislauw:
ghehe, i tried already many ways downgrading, but none of them worked :D lolzz
[Desire General] copas2:
Well then they manage to do this after all. And flash partitions remain the same. And user data will remain too with the OTA. No further questions.
[Desire General] Yann2011:
Hmm like me also :mad:
[Desire General] Invisible Elf:
I feel sorry for HTC's support personell
[Desire General] yorkshiretyke:
I like the update, it's just the flip clock problem that's pissing me off lol
[Desire General] KiraYoma:
So are they gonna release the driver anyway? Or source?

And will it helpful for asop rom like oxygen?
[Desire General] erklat:
I stated that yesterday, seeing who they must deal with I'd say it is one of the toughest jobs there is. And I know about an axe, shovel or pick. Nothing out there beats a horde of stupid people rampaging about something what apparently they could not possibly understand.

I could not possibly agree more with you, mate.
[Desire General] aygul12345:
And now?, can i not go back to the a other romm??

And how long do we must wait if yoy stuck on dev. Rom to get rootable?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
me too

poor poor people
[Desire General] Lothaen:
yep pretty much, but not the rom - more like the hboot
[Desire General] KiraYoma:
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/markmoons/status/97961895583166464

Wow and yes Mark Moons is the **** of the year by saying this!
[Desire General] nhrsak:
I installed the update 2.3, and now I wonder if I'll be able to upgrade to true when it comes out.

Can I return the original 2.2?
[Desire General] Smii:
I just spent an hour chatting to one of them mostly about not a lot.

But I started by saying thankyou! And wishing them all the best in this time of lots of angry people.

My experience with their customer support is utterly fantastic -they're one of the best companies I've ever dealt with! So I wanted to try and encourage them. He said he'd pass the message around the office.

I don't think they've necessarily handled this update particularly brilliantly in the way it's been communicated, but nobody deserves all this hate over something so little.
[Desire General] TrTech:
Links not working. What does he say?
[Desire General] k3lcior:
Link doesn't work.
[Desire General] Bingley:
http://translate.google.com/#auto|e...eidelijk, maar huidige klanten ook veel waard
[Desire General] erklat:
This is true mate. You can wait now until devs come up with a way to root this.

No.
[Desire General] Kermode:
Yeah that doesn't make sense.

Anyway, there will never be an OTA version, so this thread can be closed now.
[Desire General] aygul12345:
Why closed? Maby for you, but not for us...
[Desire General] Pvanwelt:
MarkMoons twitter

Two quotes (translated) by Mark Moons today:

A bit later he posted:
[Desire General] helterskelter:
How come we have numerous HTC Support people saying an OTA update has rolled out?

Are they ill-informed or have they absolutely no clue what they're talking about?
[Desire General] KiraYoma:
HTC is the master of gingerbread upgrades. We launch new phones, but also keep our current customer satisfied.

Imo they just put the finger to the desire owners, by releasing this beta.
[Desire General] aygul12345:
I think the update will come out on august / september,

htcdesireblog.nl/nieuws/bevestigd-htc-desire-krijgt-android-2-3/
[Desire General] Thiesen:
Desire S

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Not the original HTC Desire!!!

L2r... Dutch is your own language and I GT'ed that page and I could clearly read Desire S on that page....
[Desire General] aygul12345:
IF YOU READ... its says" We hebben het hier over de HTC Desire S en de update zal uitgerold worden een maand nadat dit toestel gelanceerd is. De verwachting is dat de Desire S in mei of juni verkrijgbaar is, dus de update naar Android 2.3 voor de Desire zal rond augustus en september plaatsvinden.

That sayss... the month
[Desire General] Par4:
First it's a blog post from 21 Feb. since then alot has changed.

Second mark moons says it, This is THE (as in, this is the update we all waited for and has been mentioned in to many threads), and there won't be an OTA, (as in, not now - not tommorow, not ever)

face it. they released this one and leave it up to the developers.
[Desire General] erklat:
I said it five times today, and I'll say it once more. Upgrade brings reduced /data of 128mb which means partition layout has been changed. This can't be done over the air.

I see it this way - in the first line of the update description it says it is for experienced users. That ramble after that is simply covering their back against questions like why do I have even less space for apps, where is my Facebook app, what about Teeter etc. God knows that gen pop would strangle them to death with stupid questions like that, plus the risk that goes together with fiddling with partition layout.

If they were clever they would've stick to "that can't be done". This way they did something no one else ever did and they dug their grave in the upcoming weeks.
[Desire General] aygul12345:
But they said.. there will be. OTA, help desk say also... because that is a devpl. Kit, soo not for public release, they will get FOTA,
[Desire General] Hasty:
Flipping the bird? lol
[Desire General] aygul12345:
And if you put the S-off, can you back to a other rom?
[Desire General] AndroidJaspie:
NO OTA

Hi

go to to http://developer.htc.com/ click the download button and read:cool:
[Desire General] Pyr0wl:
Dude, c'mon.

Support also said there would be Sense 2.1. I'm running the official GB ROM right now, I don't see it running Sense 2.1?

Don't be so naive. Not everything they tell you is true.

And FYI, this isn't a "development kit", they just released it under developer.htc.com because they deleted some apps and they don't want total noobs come complaining about "my FB app is gone" or "Where's the flashlight app?". We wanted GB for Desire, we got GB for desire, but we had to make a compromise. This is THE update.
[Desire General] benrees21:
Glad you all got it. I told my g/f not to bother getting it. HTC just covered their asses by putting it under the developer site. I don't blame them either. The people on facebook and people not to in the know of how updates work would be raging if they done an OTA and facebook was missing, god forbid lol. Hope you can all get something out of the update for your custom ROMS and Kernels, I'm sure you will the devs on Xda are the best around.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Matr1x 5.5 CFS Kernel (Don't mess with the Mathkid!) :-)
[Desire General] aygul12345:
So we get ota?, because whare is the public version/ release ? ;)
[Desire General] Lothaen:
nope......
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I wonder if they removed facebook to get rid of all the people bad mouthing them :p

I dont blame them for it.

Quickoffice.apk not sure why they didnt remove that waste of space.
[Desire General] loedrus:
Htc: This is the only update, no ota

From the amended TOS of the RUU at developer.htc.com:
[Desire General] bluesax:
Anyone knows if debranded phones can update using a goldcard?

EDIT: Just updated to GB using a Goldcard!!!!! Phone seems to work well
[Desire General] parolek:
Hi all, I have problem with downgrade from "developer gingerbread" to Froyo. RUU shows me error error customer id or 140 bootloader version error.

I trayed with and without Gold card

Could anyone help me please?

Thx

Petr
[Desire General] ezekionokia:
I don't get you people.

First you cry about not getting GB and when you finally GET IT, you complain about not being able to get rid of it.

That's just plain silly.
[Desire General] mortuus82:
Im using launcherpro, will this install delete all files and icons on my internal memory :confused: