yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Yea..see my 2 post before..when it came out with the reviews I saw they are slanted toward the snapdragon...then for this thread I rechecked the reviews and I seen that some favored the snapgradon and others favored the tegra 2. Now, I don't know who to believe anymore. And I am not favoring one over the other now. I simply don't believe the benchmarks as I used to. The first prototypes of the tegra came out in late 2009 for development. It's kinda like amd vs. Intel chips...who right and best? For me and only me..I simply don't know anymore. I been around the block to know in 1 year..there will be better, faster and more capable chips.
[HTC EVO 3D] bballer71418:
The only experience I have with the tegra 2 is on my galaxy tab 10.1. The only issue I have besides the lag which I believe is a honeycomb issue is that it can not play a hd YouTube video with bufferring about 4 times throughout the video. My 3vo plays them just fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
And if you notice, not one person denied the fact that the nexus revamped wallpaper still makes this phone lag just like it made the Evo 4G lag.. because it does. I find it highly unusual that the Nexus S is able to run it even without a dual core without being lagged. But I guess that's the difference between vanilla android and sense. There's just no denying that one.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
As far as the Photon goes for me. Not!

The Epic must be a wifie phone, I also bought the Epic for her. She hates the capacitive buttons because they are hit and miss when pressing them. Does rooting and custom roms fix this?
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
The Linpack is fairly decent, but the quadrant score is doubled by the SGSII.

EDIT: Not sure what the Tegra 2 will score, but I feel it'll be pretty high because the FPS isn't capped like on other GPUs.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tbonekilla:
Mine doesn't lag. I ran that wallpaper for two weeks. I'm curious if it is a combination side effect. Like running "x" wallpaper with "y" app/widget causes lag.

Sent from my Johnny Five.
[HTC EVO 3D] Yogi3:
Well to anyone that may care the answer was to Photon 4G for me...
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
You got the photon, did you own the 3d how is thepic quality and the screen quality?

If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d :P
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Word to the OP... dont post these in phone specific forums. Youll basically never get an unbiased opinion lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] anti-up:
I posted last week that 2 off my co-workers each one a free photon and I had to wait till today to find out if I won one, well today came and I just got an email that I did too! I have never one anything before and I'm so happy right now! I Def won't be getting rid of my 3d but it's great to win a new phone!

SHOTS FIRED!!! From 3 Dimensions!
[HTC EVO 3D] Yogi3:
Yea no offence to no one but it sure seem to be a bit of bias answers I got.
[HTC EVO 3D] Yogi3:
Well i did have the 3D till Sunday noon after that i got the Photon 4G at my local corporate Sprint at no restocking fee :D ...

The Photon 4G screen is in my opinion better than the 3D and 2nd to any of my Samsung phone i have had in the last 6 months ( I have owned a Samsung Galaxy S 4G, Nexus S 4G and got a Samsung Epic for my mother) all great screens.

One thing i liked about the 3D was the build quality was better than the Photon or my other Samsungs.
[HTC EVO 3D] smokin1337:
It just got good with the 3d i'm not gettin rid of it...
[HTC EVO 3D] irishgreen:
What kind of statement is that? Who isnt getting sued by Apple? And if u kept up with it ud know that HTC is counter sueing Apple with the backing of google..i hate when people throw out half baked answers
[HTC EVO 3D] irishgreen:
You obviously have no idea how benchmarks work or how dual core phones especially the evo 3d work..the reason the evo 3d benchmarks are low are that it has a different type(Asnychronous) which means both cores dont run for one task..one core handles the current task while the other maintains the background tasks unless its needed...

Advantages of Asnychronous CPU:

Lower power consumption.

Faster computing speed.

Disadvantages of Asynchronous CPU:

Needs to be modified to be compatible with other tools since most tools assume a synchronous CPU.

More difficult to design and test.

It is a far superior CPU and once ICS is released they will be even more optimized..no current benchmarks or quadrant tests can accurately handle the new snapdragon cpu..FACT..and maybe sgs2 does beat it..but it isnt a true test and beleive me doesnt make the sgs2 superior thats a FACT..cause its not!! And mobile benchmarks the EVO3d smokes the sgs2 and sam galaxy tab 10.1(vellamo)..man this forum is full of people who open there mouths with no true knowledge!!
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
First of all, it has been said a million times that benchmarks don't mean **** about real world performance! Second of all, if you are going to compare benchmarks, most devs will tell you that CF-Bench is the closest to being reliable. Third, the 3d at 1.7Ghz blew EVERYTHING away!

Just so you can see it.

Also, just so you know, my atrix didn't even come close to the 3d. I had run both after a fresh reboot and the 3d killed it.
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
****! Picture is really blurry. Will post better one later.
[HTC EVO 3D] osi13:
My buddy received his photon over the weekend. I cannot stand the pentile display and overall the 3d looks aesthetically better -- I don't care if the camera is better on the photon, it's not really a big deal to me. Our S-LCD display is much better.
[HTC EVO 3D] Torrentula81:
So you prefere two crapy cameras then one better one? When was the last time you heard any games flaunting snapdragon chip. Its all about tegra 2. and if it really is 2+ years old then what does that say about snapdragon who cant get any rep. Xperia xplay single core tegra 2 getting more spotlight ( barely any) but still more then evo. Run your benches. They arent amounting to anything as far as what you have comming. Evo was dead before it started.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Wow. You are a complete tool. Lol

Why don't you look up what the xperia play REALLY has in it and.. why Dead Space and Minecraft, which are "exclusive" to the xperia play run fine without the need for Chainfire on our phones. Lololol.

Oh? Did you see it runs a snapdragon? Feel stupid now don't you?

And the whole "its all about tegra2!" Is complete crap too when Chainfire allows us to play many of those "tequites the powrt of tegra!" Games smoothly. Which shows perfectly what the tegra2 really is. A marketing gimmick from Nvidia which highlights what they do best. Throw money at developers to cover up the ffact that they aren't anything special.

Before you attempt to troll you should know something. Anything! Haha.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I got to play with the photon today, personally IMO all it has over the EVO 3d is the screen size and the kck stand. I wish the evo3d had the wider screen like the MoPho has, but that's about it. The moto ui is plain and boring. They should have put ASOP on it. I think that would have made a world of difference. Plus the fact the lacking of development makes it even less appealing. The pentile is ok, because of the bright colors, but the resolution looks like something out of 2008.
[HTC EVO 3D] Semseddin:
@OP,

Don't forget to check XDA Photon 4G general forums for some real user reviews unlike in this thread where some biased people is freely spreading misinformative **** from their chairs without a doubt. Oh my good lord, these guys even made tegra2 an 2009 made chip, which was eventually the first dualcore chip inside PDA's started selling in March 2011.

Tegra2 and android is way more optimized and speedy than any snapdragon at the moment and an 3vo can outperform photon only if you overclock it to 1.7/1.8 ghz. Its asyncronous feature don't result any noticable performance bump plus it doesn't help for battery life,too. That's a fact but nobody seems to accept it over here. Plus, tegra2 chip is selected as a standart by Google even for 1280x800 honeycomb tablets. I don't see any Qualcomm Soc used as reference chip for Android. Tegra2 is a true Arm cortex A9 soc and MSM8660 is just an A8 (2009 tech) with some enhancements. That alone as clearly stated by arm itself causes %30 performance bump over A8 cpu's. MotoBlur iteration on the Photon is much more closer to AOSP then any HTC with Sense. I like it but some Sense lovers don't like it but that doesn't mean it is **** like it used to be on older versions.

The best idea is to visit a shop and compare your 3vo with a photon side by side, and test the following to get an overall idea of how they compete each other.

* Phone capibilities, signal strength

* Free ram+ amount

* Browsing speed and flash performance

* Camera

* Battery life

* Games

* Music quality, speakers and gps
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Still here dude?

Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] snoopy1e11:
I heard a "rumor" that the sgs2 variants for the U.S are supposed to be running snapdragon chips. Anyone else heard this or is it just a rumor
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
Heard about it too, I would stick with the EVO 3d , I trust HTC more then MOTO or samsung the epic hasn't even get gingerbread and same goes for for the Droid 2 global, and i know Google just bought MOTO mobility but that won't do nothing till probably next year after all goes thru, I hate waiting for updates so I hope HTC is the first oem to release ics update
[HTC EVO 3D] graffixnyc:
Put sense on one of those tegra 2 phones and lets see the real comparison. Sense is owned to bog down a phone. When it gets CM 7 or stock AOSP it will fly!
[HTC EVO 3D] di11igaf:
really?

cause i have 2- yes TWO- tegra 2 devices in front of me, a transformer with 3.2 @ 1ghz, and an atrix overclocked to 1.2- along with the evo 3d running at stock clock speed.(1.2)

i see lots of tegra fanboys in here saying how it smashes the snapdragon blah blah blah. heres an opinion from someone who ACTUALLY has both.

ill take the dual core snapdragon ANY day of the week. in almost every task i throw at the 2 phones(way faster than the atrix, the transformer is not as bad), the snapdragon is faster and smoother.

so you say since the tegra 2 is cortex A9 it surely has to be faster and more powerful?

nof from what ive seen. its an a9, that doesnt support neon and doesnt have that great of a GPU.

some tegra fans will say that neon doesnt mean anything and tegra is still faster.

explain this then. why can neither of my tegra devices play hd flash with any kind of smoothness when the snapdragon can handle 1080p flash like butter-

heres some proof, ill post some other videos of the tegra getting beat at other things if youd like.

if you wanna say i overclocked the evo or something go ahead cause i didnt, and i can certainly do this same thing again and record from a fresh boot then go into setCPU.

(atrix upper left, evo 3d upper right- all on same wifi network watching same hd flash video)

heres a link to the vid- make sure you click desktop on bottom of page then set resolution to 1080p. lmk how it works

and dont get me wrong, i love my transformer, and the tegra may be fine for a lot of people, but its not the be all end all like some make it out to be, especially when compated to the msm 8x60. the main reason im posting this vid is to show like many others have said, benchmarks dont always mean everything.

[YOUTUBE]tUVwq8eR3QI[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC EVO 3D] Semseddin:
Yeah really, nobody said that tegra2 can 1080p youtube like butter anyway. It doesnt have neon and besides the jittery 1080p tegra2 bests ms8660 in youtube and browser flash performance like it bests qualcomm in every other category. Film us a fair and stock smackdown between atrix and 3vo please.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Maybe your next post you could make some sense...

You just claimed that Tegra2 cant run YouTube at 1080p "like butter" while not disputing that the snapdragon can do it easily and at fullspeed.... But that doesn't matter because the Tegra2 can still run YouTube and flash better than the snapdragon.

... Does that make any sense at all?!

"This bands first album is so much better than their first album"
[HTC EVO 3D] jlear3:
^lol thats exactly what I thought while reading his post
[HTC EVO 3D] Semseddin:
Yeah, i think you need to study and learn some before you post. Tegra2 cant play 1080p youtube and flash because it lacks neon, that's alone the only reason why it cant, not that it is poor in performance. Open a webpage with full of flash and hit play buttons at the same time on same wifi network, while tegra2 started playing, msm8660 will be still loading.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Guy, didn't they already close one thread that you ruined..I.never saw such an evo hater spend so much time in its forums
[HTC EVO 3D] di11igaf:
Really, cause I can post another video to disprove your guesswork. What makes you think it will load faster on a full flash page if the Msm 8x60 clearly smashes the tegra 2 in real life scenarios like I just showed.

Why don't you post a vid proving yourself right instead of talking out of your ass.

I know why, cause you don't have both devices(like I do) and your making **** up
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
" as with most trolls, facts are always trumped by opinion"
[HTC EVO 3D] zone23:
GO for it get, rid yourself of that POS EVO..
[HTC EVO 3D] jdawglx01:
A Samsung Intercept has a better display than a Photon.
[HTC EVO 3D] migpol08:
Does any of you know how is the FM radio signal on the evo 3d?
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
* Phone capibilities, signal strength - Photon

* Free ram+ amount - Photon (sense is a hog)

* Browsing speed and flash performance - Unknown

* Camera - I don't know much of Photon's camera, evo doesn't have the best, but it does well.

* Battery life - probably Photon due to synchronous dualcore cpu.

* Games - sbapdragon > Tegra 2

* Music quality, speakers and gps - evos speakers ae pretty poor, so I give Photon this round.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lonewuhf:
Why do we have posts like this in our forums? We don't go to the crappy Photon forums and boast about our phones. (By the way, checked out your development section for the Photon and found only 3 roms, some of which haven't been updated in weeks).
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I noticed that too, development for the MoPho is a ghost town. Threads like this vs that always suck anyway and is always troll bait. They plagued the Epic and EVO forums for months.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Ooh. OK I totally get it now. So. While I'm waiting for all this flash stuff to load and play properly, a Photon will load it faster and struggle to play it at fullspeed.

Well ****, I'm sold! :rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
The first month 3v0 was out, it didn't have a single rom. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Malikione:
Traded the crap photon in after one day and went back to evo...
[HTC EVO 3D] techspec06:
Many of the "this versus that" threads are created in an attempt to pull users/devs from one device to another. Being that we have a strong dev group with the Evo3D, it's not surprising to see a lot of these types of threads, usually started and trolled by ppl from the opposing device talking up the advantages of their device.

These threads are mostly useless since they're filled with more opinions than facts. If I were considering a new device, I'd research each particular device's xda forum. Not search my current phones xda section for a better alternative.

Any of our Devs tempted to flee to the Photon? Very few I'd imagine.

Jason
[HTC EVO 3D] sianaka:
returning photon for evo 3d....

I have the photon and it has something seriously wrong with the one they sold me. The battery life is like 5 hours with everything turned off while running on 3g (no 4g in my area) and sitting in my pocket. I also own a LG g2x on t-mobile, as well as the galaxy tab 10.1. I have modded several evo 3d's and have seen how smooth they run everything including their extremely bloated ui. I only hesitate to switch from the photon to the evo because of tegra games, which I have actually installed on an evo and they run smoother than they do on the photon. I will miss the shape and brightness of the screen, and the kickstand. I honestly am just extremely irritated by the really bad battery life to the point I cant find anything else the photon does better. Just my 2 cents on the topic of which to buy. I really like the developers i've seen in the evo forumas well, and havent seen any i recognize in the photon forums, so that scares me since I'll be stuck with the phone for a couple years. I would wait for the gs2, but the epic had the worst signal strength and support I have ever seen.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
The sprint stores in my area don't even havent received the photon yet.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nihilife:
I'm planning on buying a class 10 micro SD card, would it be faster to boot off of it rather than the internal storage?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Taosaur:
If you're planning to boot from SD, a class 10 card is the last thing you want. Class 4 Sandisks in the 8-32GB range outperform other cards by one or two orders of magnitude. See this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 Class 2 and unclassed Sandisks of the same sizes are comparable, too. Card class doesn't measure anything relevant to running a ROM from SD.

However, both SD and eMMC are pretty identical in terms of speed/benchmarks, and SD installs seem to more often have issues with stability, so if you have no qualms about your warranty and/or giving up the B&N proprietary features (in-store reading, kids' books), you may as well go ahead and install to eMMC, in which case a class 10 card won't cause you any problems. Keep in mind that most devices other than high-end digital cameras can't run any card higher than a class 6 at its advertised large-sequential-r/w speed (nor would they benefit from doing so).
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] votinh:
Booting off uSD gives you more options to play with BUT you MUST have a very GOOD uSD to begin with and the BEST uSD for some reason to be Sandisk class 2 or class 4.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koopakid08:
eMMC is always faster but if you go the SD card route make sure it's a sandisk
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Braddy15:
I am super new to all of this and not exactly sure how to install a rom that isnt from ROMmanager...

I have downloaded this rom ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=717377 ) because I am tired of having to charge my phone twice a day, and I don't really need any of the super extra cool things that my current rom (Steel Droid) comes with. I've tried CM7 many times but the battery life is just ridiculous, not to mention it over-heats my phone all the time.

My phone is mostly stock, except for being rooted, here are the details.

It's a CDMA Droid

Current Version : 2.2.1

Kernel : 2.6.32.9_RZ raidzero@gentoo #37

Build : Steel Droid 3.3.32 FRG83G

Just looking to install this ROM, thanks for any help, and/or if you find any rom this is Eclair and still fast as / battery magical as this one. Thanks in advance :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] sileshnair:
That rom is not for the Droid. Its for the milestone.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Braddy15:
Well...That's disappointing.... Do you know of any ROMs that are virtually stock, minus the un-needed items that just slow it down and reduce battery life? I've been looking everywhere. None of the ROMs on ROMmanager have enough battery life for me, and i would prefer to go back to 2.1 if possible. Thank you, though.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] sileshnair:
Well, I am not sure if you'll find one other than stock. Milestone had 2 good ones, Telus lite and eclairmod. I don't know of a good one for the Droid. Will let you know if I get hold of one.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] savergn:
How exactly is your battery life for you Droid? I have the CDMA version as well.

I can get 16 hours with moderate use pretty easy, and I'm overclocked to 1Ghz. I have no idea why you'd want to go back to 2.1 or 2.2, considering the first GB ROM I used SIGNIFICANTLY increased performance and battery life for my phone.

If you'd like to give what I'm running a shot:

However, Simply Stunning isn't very stock at all, its a very customizable ROM with a ton of features.

Get SS 5.4 and change the CPU to 1Ghz (less, if you want even greater battery life), and interactive Governor, also Automatic brightness is always set.

JIT, and compache are enabled.

If you want to try Peter Alfonso's take on an "official" GB release for the Droid, he made GPA16, which is basically the stock ROM with Gingerbread (and root of course).

There final option you have is to get a App like Titanium Backup and remove all the bloatware that you don't want installed.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Braddy15:
Sorry for the long response time. I have been messing around with a lot of different ROMs and it seems as if the version of Steel Droid I have now, has a significantly difference in signal as the others...The Steel Droid rom is on average 1-2 bars lower on signal than what I have currently been running the past couple days (second to last update of CM7)

As for your help i really appreciate it, but i do not understand about 75% of it, i am still a "noob" as you would say, and i'm still learning.

Mod Version : CyanogenMod-7.0.3.-Droid

Build : GRI40

Mem Avail (avg) : 60mb

Kernel : 2.6.32.9.-cm-stk audicken@hera #1
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Braddy15:
bump......
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zbreakz:
Can I uninstall wifi tether 3.0pre-11 from acs syndicaterom 1.1.1? Or will it cause issues?

It seems to run in the background and also I am concerned cause it starts sprint hotspot so I don't know if I'm being charged for that feature...
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnCorleone:
You can uninstall with no problem. Also, it is supposed to activate the Hotspot icon. It passes through Hotspot to work but you will not get charged. Don't worry about that.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrooklynsFinest:
I can't get wireless tether to work... it shows up on the computer as connected with full bars but I can't go on any websites. Any idea on how to fix this? Running 1.2 with genocide 2.0.

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnCorleone:
Go on this site and download the Wifi Tether 3.1 beta 2. I have had excellent results with it. I also have done really well with version 3 pre 14. Change device type to Epic and the connection to Softap. If you are on 4G with version 3 pre 14 or older, you need to turn off 4G, activate the WifiTether then turn back on 4G. Version 3.1 beta 2 eliminates that...http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list

Oh..if you go to version 3 pre 14, you can update the old one. If you try 3.1 beta 2, you must delete the old one. It will leave you with two apps and won't work properly.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrooklynsFinest:
Thanks for your help!
[HD Mini General] munjeni:
I just want to say that this is ridiculous, and that his place is not here:cool: What you think guys?

My vote for return!
[HD Mini General] hamid htc:
why ???? :(
[HD Mini General] cubeitor:
I vote for return!!!
[HD Mini General] liorderei:
they are humiliating out great device!!!
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
:) I didn't understand exactly, can you explain more? :)
[HD Mini General] 15MA1L:
what are we to do about it?

Maybe a joke or a mistake, In any case, do not like it at all! After all I thought XDA is related to the DEVOLOPMENT rather than making money on advertising...:mad::mad::mad:
[HD Mini General] tzacapaca:
WHY???

THIS is NOT a Legacy device(is just around a year old) and NOT a Low Activity Device also(Thanks to our developers who are working on porting Android) so what are the arguments for doing this???:confused:

THIS SUCKS!!!:mad:
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
Oh Dear! :confused:

What's going on in here? :eek: What is the news?

I didn't Understand, :o does this mean to stop the project?
[HD Mini General] benjanico:
It's just that we're all annoyed that the xda guys moved the htc hd mini forums to the legacy & low activity devices forum, which basically means that xda thinks hd mini is a 'legacy' device and has low activity.