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[Xperia Play General] yoyoman2:
Yep. Same thing in my case. Most people have no clue what the damn thing is, but think it's the most amazing thing ever when I show it to them. This is proof that poor marketing can kill something.

I don't see why they won't just do the obvious. It's the only smartphone that can be taken seriously for gaming, and clearly the resolution to all the errors you encounter trying to game on an iPhone/Regular Droid... and all the same, it doesn't cut any corners in the non-game dept either.

That's all they have to market it as. Microsoft can push crappy, buggy, laggy Kinect like no tomorrow, and Apple can sell iPads that fall short in almost all serious expectations... so why can't they use five-star marketing to push something that's actually good?

I'm thinking (hoping) they're just saving the big guns for the AT&T release, since that's bound to have more of an impact just by the fact that many stores carry AT&T services, but not Verizon.
[Xperia Play General] enoch861:
Honeslty I just think the average consumer doesn't care (we aren't the average consumer).

They have Apple and in a consumers head that's all that matters. End of story. Doesn't matter how much you beat it into their heads, people still think the iPhone is where its at. Sad.
[Xperia Play General] quazimojo:
Also we need a couple killer apps to really push the hardware to people that might even be slightly interested.

This is what gets people to buy consoles as well and this phone would need something similar to really break out of the obscurity that its in now.

I love the emulation aspects and other possibilities with this device but the average joe will never see that as a value at all unless its all packaged up neatly and says Nintendo on it ;).

Sony tried this a little bit with its own app to run the PSX games but frankly that will only take this phone so far .

Either way though i love my phone and its what i always wanted in a phone .

This is a have your cake and eat it too for me :D.
[Xperia Play General] crono141:
Man, wish the verizon phone had root. I'm regretting this purchase until it does.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Yeah it is sad. To some people iPhone is all there is, they are blinded by the Steve Jobs kool aid drink. They won't even acknowledge amazing innovation like having a game controller instead of the stupid touch/motion controls.

So far in the US anyway Sony has released ONE PSX game and its included with the phone. I don't know what the holdup is, but if they put out advertising here that you can get a bunch of your favorite PS classics on a phone I'm SURE more people would be all over it. No idea why they are letting this opportunity slip away.
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Let us say that "your favorite PSX classics" are mainly NOT going to be Everybody's Golf 2 or a random snowboarding title. Most legendary PSX games are third-party titles... as is the case with PS2 as well. The licensing costs of putting Final Fantasy in the Android Market are probably higher than the revenues, not to mention profits, of the thing.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Ok but Sony does own the rights to Wipeout (available on the Play in Europe), Destruction Derby (also in europe), Twisted Metal, Warhawk, Syphon Filter, etc. That and if they could do them right I'm sure Capcom and others would consider signing onboard to port games like Resident Evil.

After doing a little reading looks like the PS Suite software may bring this... but the phone will have been out for a while once this software comes out (I hear November??) will anyone even care anymore? Maybe the AT&T release will coincide, but Verizon is close to giving these things away.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
excuse me but everybodys golf on the psx and the later 2nd generation versions on the gamecube have been some of my most loved games :D lol
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Lol, I'm actually playing a lot with EG2, I'm a golf junkie and it's a quite complicated game, it's taking me ages to win all the competitions.
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
If only sony can catch the consumers heart with their advertising like apple.... Then this phone would have really take off. The reviews were bad for it because retarded reviewers started comparing it to the next gen psp...
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
I saw it on a list of "Top 10 Bad Android Phones" and the only reason he said it is on the list is because he feels "nobody wants a game controller on their phone". Seriously that is the biggest pile of crap answer I've ever heard, I let him know as well.
[Xperia Play General] hexen2006:
Well in Mexico we have a different situation, the main provider (telcel) was selling the play for 110 usd in a 18 month service contract (30 usd per month) 2 months ago, so I got it, (they even gave a 40 usd discount because of loyalty points).

Since then I have been showing it off to every person I know and everybody fell in love with it after I showed it running the nes/snes/n64 emulators and the android system (a relatively young OS in mexico).

More than 5 friends have tried to get it since then, but Telcel have raised the price from 110 to 320 usd just because they want, so all of my friends came back empty handed and quite angry (1 guy even asked me to show him the invoice because he didnt believed me, and after I showed it to him, he took it to the store to ask them to respect the price to him, which they obviously didnt).

Now they all hate me because I got almost for free. (did I mention I also got it on a 12 months payment plan 0% Apr hehehe).

The real punch line is that I tell everybody I wasn't looking for the PLAY (I didnt know it was available on Mexico and I had seen bad reviews of it on internet), I went to the store to Grab the 500 usd Samsung galaxy S1 (the S2 was not available until past week), so I took the chance and got the PLAY for economic reasons, and now I love it so much that I dont think I will ever change it for a keypad-less phone.
[Xperia Play General] JelloFreak:
Same thing for me. Everyone show thinks its awesome. I have even had complete strangers come up to me and ask me about it.
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
Every time I'm on the bus, if the gamepad is out, I get bombarded with questions

Sent from my R800
[Xperia Play General] crono141:
Have to revise my statement. Now that we Verizon folks have unlocked bootloader and root, I would absolutely recommend this phone.
[Xperia Play General] -josh-:
What a thread, y does everything have to turn into an argument about whos is better lol.

If your happy with your phone then nothing else really matters

(just saying)

P.s. The play is the best phone ever made it ****s all over everything else lol
[Xperia Play General] FK1983:
Because a lot of people are trying to make the Play sound much better than it actually is, that is why! :p

Just look at the many reviews of the Play (none of them good) and the terrible sales, it speaks for itself....
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
It makes a poor impression with mainstream reviewers because it is a niche phone. Sony's mistakes were high pricing and overhyping the product. This is not a WOAH product. The ARC has slightly better components, the same UI... But it's praised much more in reviews because it has more awesome factor.

Now that the price is right, this phone might take off.
[Xperia Play General] zero_1_2:
I havent found anything to hate about this phone. the speakers are the best ive had out of any phone. Its amazing. This is the emulator phone. Who doesnt want to play FF7 on their phone. The controls are pretty nice. I wouldnt trade it in for any other phone...
[Xperia Play General] _terror_:
I'm with you 100%. I fell in love with this phone the second i saw that you can play Zelda OOT on it. I've been in love with this phone ever since. Love it love it love it!
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Sorry to bring this back from the dead but has anyone tried any of these programs:

http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...nchmarking-your-android-device/?tag=cnetRiver

To compare the Play to other devices? I'd try it now but cell service is terrible at work so I can't download anything.
[Xperia Play General] -josh-:
Lol who gives a **** about reviews and sales figures, I dont have shares in Sony Ericsson. And I dont sell plays, I just own one and love it.

The fact it gets bad reviews doesnt make me like it any less. Otherwise id own an iphone

This is what im talking about its all relative so why argue
[Xperia Play General] letspoint:
I only read upto page 8 before my reception gave in (not the phones fault) so sorry if im repeating anything.

I see a lot of people quoting specs and speeds, but for most if not all practical purposes the play is more than acceptible. Only thing it struggles with is n64 emulation but that could well just be the emulator.

The biggest and unique selling point of the play are the controls. The nokia ngage comes to mind, which ok was many a year back, but the memory almost put me off the play. Back then snake and crude platformers were easily handled by the number pad, games like ocarina of time are much more enjoyable with physical controls. Physical joysticks are a must of the xplay2, yet im not sure how it would work with the next sellin point.

Gaming controls look kinda nerdy, main reason why I didnt get the ngage. BUT on the play, you can slide away the nerdiness (or some at least), and ultimately was what sold the phone for me in a hardware sense. Retro gaming heaven one second, average looking smart phone the next.

How easy would it have been to **** up the sliding mechanism? I think SE have done a brilliant job, sturdy yet not too loose. Not a complete brick.

Ultimately its the combination of decent build quality/design, physical gaming controls and the fact its an android. You get more control, more options, more resources. Imagine an apple counterpart to the play, I doubt it could compete (nazi zombies and driver to come over to the android market).

Great phone, does whats its supposed to very well indeed. Not the fastest, lightest etc, but it is the best phone for playing games.
[Xperia Play General] sdlaurin:
First they need the image of them removing the product from you, sueing american devs and arresting German ones to go away...
[Xperia Play General] hexen2006:
??? what are you talking about???:confused:
[Xperia Play General] Cubsfan3493:
Yes. Now there is a root for it, even for CDMA.
[Xperia Play General] lyricalchaos:
will be good once they get better games
[Xperia Play General] maynardoc:
mmm i think is best the HTC Desire Z and T-Mobile G2, the hardware is equal o high and have Radio FM.

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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edge808:
Good day guys,

been reading a ton about the speaker issues of the transformer and I think mine might be unique. for some reason, my external speakers shut off at roughly 50% level and the only way to turn them back on is to plug and unplug earphones at a lower level. At lower levels, like 40% and lower, the speakers work fine but the moment level go past 50, they shut off specifically when the DB level I'm guessing reaches a certain point. Not sure if it might due to faulty wiring and I'm not so sure I can fix it if it is, or even know where to start. earphones work fine though.

any thoughts would be immensely appreciated.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edge808:
installed the new prime and now the speakers won't even turn on when I plug/unplug my headphones. so basically now, zero external speakers action. sound only through the headphone jack.

any thoughts? thanks in advance!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sirk08:
Same problem here, i some roms using nvflash tool, but still no luck...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tazli2:
hello

I bought an AT&T unlocked Motorola Atrix. It is now 4.1.83.

My question is can i upgrade my phone to 4.5.91? I am not using AT&T.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jiimbo:
i think you can't
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neotekz:
i have an att atrix on a carrier in canada and was able to get all the updates without a problem if you are stock. or you can just get them from the dev section and flash it.
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
Hey guys,

I was on 2.3 Gingerbread with S-OFF and rooted (on sense 2.1). My aim is to get the new 3.0 sense (stock firmware without root etc).

So i decided to retrieve the stock FW unroot and flash RUU, so i can update OTA to the new sense.

The ROMs i found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1002506

but i accidently flashed from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1 to RUU_Saga_TMO_DE_1.30.111.1 with t-mobile branding.

now i tried to go back to stock europe ROM which i first had, but i am now on 1.30 and i think downgrading will brick my phone, am i right? I am still S-OFF and tried to flash the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4 version but it also shows me, this:

current ROM: 1.30.111.1

new ROM: 1.28.401.1

:(

what can i do to get my stock FW back and update to the new sense without downgrading or getting my phone bricked? i even would be able to give up my root, but is there any way? :confused:

now it shows this:

SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-6.98.1002

RADIO-38.03.02.11_M

eMMC-boot

thanks for your help!

cheers,

swordlink :)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that you are asking, but, if you're S-OFF, I'm assuming that you also have CWM (clock work mod) recovery installed?

Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
well i used to have it on my europe firmware as i had my device rooted and clockwork recovery installed, but as i updated to "TMO_DE_1.30.111.1", my recovery was set back to the default one from htc.. so i have no idea on how to flash back to 1.28

but thanks for helping me ;)
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?
[HTC Desire S] Adidas108:
yup.at least i didnt manage to get updates...if u root your phone once u can flash some of latest prerooted shipped roms .Check my signature
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
but if i flash this: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed_prerooted

i would downgrade my phone.. and brick it :confused:

regarding my situation, how can i totally go back to any stock europe firmware? please someone help me out! :(
[HTC Desire S] ste1164:
Sense 3.0 isn't coming out officially for the desire s so you would need to root your phone to install it.
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
im not an expert but i dont think downgrading your phone will brick it

but you should wait for another reply before you try

but look at this

can you give us more info? like your hboot version & if you are s-off after the update?
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
wtf? i thought it is out already? i even was asked to update my desire s via OTA?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I believe that that is the case, although IMO OTA's aren't anything great..and aren't that frequent either!

Usually custom ROMs have many additional fixes included as well as extra functionality on top of the stock and it doesn't take very long after an OTA is released that it's usually incorporated within the next custom release.

You should be able to use GingerBreak to get root and then you'll be able to download ROM Manager free from the market and this should enable you to easily install CWM.

Now you have CWM installed you are able to download any custom ROM of your choice.
[HTC Desire S] InfernalByte:
push this via adb, you'll then be able to RUU your rom.
[HTC Desire S] InfernalByte:
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES INSTALL A ROM USING ROM MANAGER!!!!!!

It causes more problems than its worth!!!
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
You misunderstood what I was saying, perhaps it was slightly ambiguous...(I'll amend it)

I was suggesting that he install CWM from ROMManager and from that position install any custom from the Desire S dev forum.
[HTC Desire S] InfernalByte:
OK. :D Let me make myself clear about rom manager. Do not use it for ANYTHING! AT ALL!!!! DELETE IT. Go on... now, yes, I mean you.

No pudding until that's all been deleted.
[HTC Desire S] neomis:
How come he thinks downgrading would brick his Phone!?
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
ehm. guys, i only want a stock firmware LOL

now is there a way, or not?

SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-6.98.1002

RADIO-38.03.02.11_M

eMMC-boot
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
You'll need to justify this statement, it's a useful application that enables you to manage your backups and now that LBC's ROM has enabled ROM Manager support within the latest release (v0.5.4) it's become a vital to enable future updates.
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
offtopic, dude ;)

btw i did a backup of my system as i was on the rooted device..

so.. am i able to get my europe firmware back or not and if yes: how? simply the only question ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Fair call.... ;) sorry..

To do a restore I believe that you'll need to be root, so you could re-root your device using Gingerbreak and then restore your backup using dare i say it ROM Manager.
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
because i read something like this? am i wrong?

i thought it's the same with iPhone, Nokia etc..?
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
NP ;)

well, sounds easy.. will give it a try right now.

and you mean, when i restored my device, i am able to flash any firmware again?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I meant that you can restore to your original backup that you took or alternatively you could install CWM and install a custom instead.

I believe that you will also then be able to flash firmware......although I believe that there are newer versions....although some contain HBOOT so care must be taken.

If you are after stock then you could go to this ROM
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
yess. thank you ;)

as i am new to this forum, how can i reward you? :)

ok, but prerooted means, that i am not running an official firmware of htc.. so i can't get official OTA updates.. correct?

well, i can't decide between stock rooted fw and Custom Rom.. what is the best ROM so far? any tips maybe?
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
i restored the backup succesfully, but my phone stayed branded?

anyway.. i will now try to get back to the stock fw. btw my hboot & radio did not change
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
In which case....welcome.:D

Don't worry, To reward me simply hit the THANKS button.;)

I'd suggest that you go for the LBC ROM v0.5.3 it is very close to stock and very stable.

You should download and install v0.5.3 and then download and install the tiny patch 0.5.4

I'd also suggest that you install the EXt4 recovery from the INDEX thread
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
oh damn.. i flashed this lbc mod and its update but it is slow like hell and laaaags! did i do sth wrong?

back to stock again..
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
since the ROM is newly installed it needs to set up a lot of stuff & the cache so it takes some time for the ROM to get to full speed

try waiting for a day or so it should be much faster
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
do i need extra stuff to increase speed a bit?
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
No,you don't need any extra stuff to make it faster

The ROM is much faster than stock

Did you do a full wipe before installing? If you did then just give it some time to settle down
[HTC Desire S] swordlink:
indeed, i did.. ok thank you!
[Milestone XT720 General] abet1017:
I have a problem with RSD lite.... before rsd can easily detect my xt720 but after flashng the xda special rom the rsd lite cannot anymore detect the phone... all moto drivers are updated... please help.....
[Milestone XT720 General] LibertyMonger:
RSDLite not detecting phone

This doesn't sound good, I hope their is a solution for you. I will repost in the XDA special thread for you as I am hoping it isn't a bug caused by the Special. I will need RSDlite again sometime soon lol.
[Milestone XT720 General] abet1017:
Thanks....
[Milestone XT720 General] LibertyMonger:
Have you Resolved it?
[Milestone XT720 General] abet1017:
Not yet... I tried to use other windows-based computer but still it did not work. The computer can recognize the phone and I can get to bootloader mode... the only problem when i opened the rsd lite, no detection at all. The only option i have is to flash other rom using nandroid and try again to use RSD. If it does not work then it is a problem for me to go back to the 2.1 stock rom... Hope there is other way to do that. Thanks.

After flashing the cbw rom, then go to bootloader mode, but the same problem the rsd cannot detect the phone....
[Milestone XT720 General] banshee56:
Not to hijack a thread here, but I am experiencing a similar issue. The difference for me is that my phone is recognized, but RSD Lite won't allow the flashing to start even after selecting the SBF file. It's almost as if RSD Lite isn't getting info about the file (doesn't show up in the window on the right).

This happened with both the Singapore SBF and the CBW SBF in an attempt to flash when trying to get to the XDA Special Stock (beta). I've even uninstalled and reinstalled both the Moto drivers and RSD Lite. Running Win7 Pro.
[Milestone XT720 General] LibertyMonger:
Not sure how to help, but do you have debugging checked in settings/applications/develpoment/USB debugging and are you using the right sbf here is what I used Singapore SBF

Seems a little weird multiple people having rsdlite issues the last few days
[Milestone XT720 General] banshee56:
Yes, USB debugging was on. It appears that I used the SBF you are referencing. As the OP is I'm sure concerned, this is a real issue if I can't get back to stock SBF for warranty issues. I suppose I could flash to the CBW Froyo and hook CBW up for warranty issues, but that's...meh...kinda cheating.
[Milestone XT720 General] Woody:
I have also read the Windows 7 doesn't like RSDlite and also read somewhere else that the version of RSDlite has been known to cause problems with recognization. I use 4.6 since day one and won't upgrade. Old saying, "If it aint broke, don't fix it." I think the latest version is 4.9 or something like that.
[Milestone XT720 General] banshee56:
Hmm...I've been on Win7 for the entire time I've been flashing my XT720. I have version 4.6 installed and it said during an update check that it was the latest. I'm pretty sure I've tried doing this with the SD card both installed and uninstalled. It recognizes the phone fine, but for some reason, when I browse and select the SBF, it doesn't recognize the file.
[Milestone XT720 General] Woody:
That is wierd. See if someone can give you a nandroid of the stock SBF and maybe try that route through OR. Flash barebones stock nand/sbf and then move on from there. Not sure if the kernal will transfer with the nandroid. I am at work roght now, so I can't up/download anything. Seems to me that if RSDlite recognozes your phone but doesn't recognize the sbf it may have something to do with the file path. Not sure at this point.
[Milestone XT720 General] banshee56:
OK, I may have figured it out. I'm at work right now (on a WinXP machine, not sure that is the diff) and started RSD Lite and plugged in the phone. It installed the OMAP3430 drivers and will now allow me to flash. I'm thinking the OMAP drivers at home are messed up. When I plug in my phone in bootloader mode into RSD Lite, it already recognizes it as model "S Flash OMAP3430". Perhaps an uninstall of those drivers and let the phone/PC do it over again.
[Milestone XT720 General] abet1017:
Actually my computer OS is windows 7 ultimate... if my rsd issue will never be resolved so I think I need to have a nandroid of Singapore sbf... hope it is possible....
[Milestone XT720 General] LibertyMonger:
I don't know bud, I have done that once and it was simply cause i clicked on the wrong file or wrong part of the file.