yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] massaint:
Will close this thread and move to here ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1248493
[Atrix 4G General] emandt:
After the official 2.3.4 OTA upgrade I've lost about 130Mb of RAM.

Nothing installed or changed from before to after the upgrade....but 130Mb were disappears.

I was usual to have 500Mb of free RAM but now that amount is reduced to 370....

Is there an explanation?
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
You have more apps running in the background now. I wouldn't worry about it. The OS will manage everything for you.

If you are really that bothered, you need to go through all the running apps, see what doesn't need to be running, and then use something like Optimize Tool Box from the market to prevent start up of those items. I have 534MB free at the moment myself.
[Atrix 4G General] emandt:
I've specifie "Official 2.3.4 Android"...

Your screenshot is not about that version but about a CustomROM.

(I'm an advanced software programmer and I know very well how an OS works, but in this case I've got any solution)

The services are the same, the widgets are the same, I've not installed nothing more than before, but I've lost 130Mb of free RAM.

I've installed "Advanced Task Killer" and I can "Kill" all listed programs (and System's listed services/executables) but I can't get more then 395 MB of free RAM also if I close all of them and clear Program's cache.

I remember with 2.2.2 I was always over 500 of free RAM, also after 10 days of use (of course after killed task/executables before watch amount of free RAM).
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Go back to programming school then..............that is not a custom ROM. It's ADW EX launcher with customized switches, icons, etc. (I guess it's mildly customized in that it's KP's 2.3.4, but for all intense and purposes, it is as close to stock 2.3.4 as it can be). I had the same issue as you, and my lowly mechanical engineering degree got me through it!

I gave you an answer which works for me. Task killers don't work for me. Preventing start up at boot time does! If you are such a good programmer, why can't you figure this out yourself, or at least show a little gratitude when someone tries to help you.
[Atrix 4G General] Jnewell05:
Did you unlock? Some report memory leakage after unlock for international users.
[Atrix 4G General] emandt:
It's doesn't matter to go to programming school in this case.

Knowing what type of "launcher" it is doesn't makes someone better at programming.

SetCPU works at least with bootloader unlocked (from stock 2.3.4 or prev CustomROMs) AND with Root Privs.

I mean full stock OS (not custom rom and not rooted), and your case is not like mine.

However ADW EX Launcher is a software which is running OVER Motoblur (on not rooted OS), so it will use additional RAM then full-stock smartphone.

It's easy.

You can't say a CustomROM is "as close to stock".

It's simple different and you are not capable to really know what are the effective changes under the "surface".

Definitly a rooted phone.

So you case is definitly different from a stock OS.

Be a good programmer (I've not tell you in which language. It could be Python, ASP, PHP, Cobol, AS400 or Visual Basic which is not correlate to Android OS) doesn't means I have all the answers about a STOCK OS with unviewable files (due to lack of root privs).
[Atrix 4G General] Foka002:
What a bull*** Please give us some real deal infirmation/screenshot or whatever to show us how much memory you have got in total. If you have around 900mb then everything is fine. If it's less then we can try to find out why.

Sent from Motorola Atrix
[Atrix 4G General] emandt:
Maybe someone ar making mistakes....

I was talking about FREE RAM avaiable on Atrix.

Total RAM is always near 900MB, but avaiable/free one is 130MB lower then Froyo 2.2.2, even if nothing changes from before to after upgrade.

So the new STOCK 2.3.4 (not from CustomROM!!!!!!) eats others 130MB of RAM even if services and executables are always the same, in the lists (Task/Process managers), as before.
[Atrix 4G General] IrshaadH:
where can I get ur background lol?
[Atrix 4G General] Wond3r:
Second best post here lol
[Atrix 4G General] Dell2:
I have noticed the same thing, but I'm not worried about it though. 350 MB is good enough for me. I went from Ken's beta 4 to the official OTA.
[Atrix 4G General] emandt:
Dell, sure....it's not the end of the world, however (as a programmer as I am) I can't find the reason why of that loss of free memory.

There is nothing for explain that drain of RAM.
[Atrix 4G General] jkrohn:
There is plenty to explain it. One small change in how aggressively the OS pages memory. If they relax it then it won't page as quickly resulting in less "free ram". Not that it matters at all though, you still have 370 MB free, why do you want the OS paging aggressively when you still have 370 MB free?
[Atrix 4G General] Phoneguy589:
I reinstalled CherryBlur and skipped the blur install. I have 2 extended control Widgets and sense clock widget running and fauxs kernel and I'm getting 550mb free. I've been having a huge problem with unknown ram usage until now. I think it's blur eating up ram in background processes.
[Atrix 4G General] alphadg21:
Sometimes a simple reboot opens up more ram for me. If you are really into software and programming, why aren't you modifying your phone with custom roms, kernels, etc? Im chilling at around 500+ megabytes of ram with the ninja rom.
[Atrix 4G General] franciscojavierleon:
well mine says

836220 total

230196 free

224868 cached

i am on kenn's 4.5 beta, some moto apps frozen, stock home launcher, with apps like: twitter, liveprofile, whatsapp, facebook.
[Atrix 4G General] NFHimself:
Hi,

Other than the obvious, that you are running Gingerbread vs Froyo? It isn't likely to be more video ram allocated, so it must be something extra running, another mode of an application that supports gingerbread in a different way than froyo, different versions of installed apps, a ramdisk/temp file/cache/swap added or different reporting of available ram.

If you have adb access, and are rooted, type cat /proc/meminfo. It gives you a break down of various mem usage. Setcpu also shows this.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G General] cwburns32:
+1

For total RAM I don't know why its around 800 MBs all of the sudden. Before I would have 900 something total and 500+ free now I'm at 120 free... Not happy at all.
[Atrix 4G General] emandt:
1) phone warranty (the most important for a 500$ phone!!)

2) every CustomROM has some issue, and I do not want to do experiments. I want a full working phone 24h/24 in every functionality.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Best bet, download and run "System Panel" and find the memory hog apps.

Then freeze them with Titanium Backup...
[Atrix 4G General] getpierced:
+1

1ochar
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bravogee:
ive been enjoying my lapdock on froyo 1.8.3 but want to experience the "faster browser on firefox 4" is lapdock really better on gingerbread? i tried the ninja 4.3 GB but my lapdock didnt work so i sbf'd back to 1.8.3 and enjoying it again. should i try again? is it worth all the effort & anxiety . .
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nitishagar:
Please can someone attach the original email.apk file

Froyo xxkb3 [to be specific :)]

Hey can anyone help on installing the email.apk

I removed it and now its causing problems
[Galaxy S I9000 General] drajax:
Email of which version & firmware mate?

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] drajax:
http://db.tt/0v5effZ

Tatz the one from froyo! Zipped and without the odex!

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[Desire Themes and Apps] TouchPal:
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[NOTE 7/28]: Up to now, we have received thousands of applications for beta testing from you dear including here xda forum, facebook and Twitter. Thank you so much for your great enthusiasm, your attention, like and support of TouchPal! We will start to send out the beta version tomorrow in turn according to applying time. There are too many people in list so it will take quite some time for us to send to you all. We will be grateful for your being patient if you haven't received our message. Thank you again! :)

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Note: This version is NOT available on Android Market yet. The current TouchPal keyboard in Android market only supports Chinese and Enligh, and doesn't support sliding input or multi-languages. We will release this new version in the market after beta testing is finished.

*TouchPal Global Website：www.touchpal.com

This thread is being closed.

For those who wants to apply for beta testing, please go to the following thread to apply. Thanks!

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1188114
[Desire Themes and Apps] ukanth:
Wow, This is great, I would like to try it. cumakt@yahoo.co.in
[Desire Themes and Apps] gifton1:
Would love to try this please

My email address is:

harrycollins86@googlemail.com

Thanks :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] k3lcior:
Would like to try it.

1337.kelt@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] pphillips001:
Sounds like a winner. I currently use SlideIT - so am interested to see how it compares.

My email address : paul1706@gmail.com

Thanks,

Paul
[Desire Themes and Apps] Calundle:
caleb-baldwin@hotmail.com

!!!!
[Desire Themes and Apps] vashishtuday:
vashishtuday@gmail.com

i love swype , hope this is better :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] kai-t:
I love swype too, but convince me that touch pal is better.

Looking forward to your mail.

Kai-t@gmx.de
[Desire Themes and Apps] Dasco68:
I'll give it a go
[Desire Themes and Apps] kevmeister46:
currently use SlideIt 4 which is brilliant. so would be interested in comparing.

count me in please:

kevingaywood@googlemail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Sirhcchris:
Please sign me up.

Screwedx2@hotmail.Com
[Desire Themes and Apps] gippy2:
pm`d email address thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] cazxstan:
Wow, this looks great, I would love to try this over swype!

scientia.aeterna@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] MattJim:
I'll try it. Tried Swype and it's ok....

mattbloomer(at)live.co.uk
[Desire Themes and Apps] all43:
Apply for beta testing

Also using Swiftkey here but I love testing new beta stuff out! email PM'd to you, ta.
[Desire Themes and Apps] TouchPal:
Thanks folks.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Jamin_1:
AWESOME!

This keyboard looks so great and fast.

I would be very happy about a pm - otherwise if that would not possible I will write my mail adresse here.
[Desire Themes and Apps] kerray:
Apply for beta testing

thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] Carlo626:
i'll try it

"Apply for beta testing"
[Desire Themes and Apps] danw1million:
Does any one get the error message about have the encryption algorithm not supported message when getting to open the touch pal beta zip ? And does any one know why and how to fix this ?
[Desire Themes and Apps] doquentin:
Want to try! ;-)

15Nick@gmx.de
[Desire Themes and Apps] mat9:
ill try it

fuller.mat93@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] TouchPal:
Dear vashishtuday,

Thank you for your participation in TouchPal's beta testing and your sincere support and help for the stability and improvement of TouchPal's new version!

The beta version might be updated frequently. Please pay attation to our posts.

Also you can follow us in facebook(TouchPal) and twitter(www.twitter.com/touchpal) to receive the latest updates from us.

Hope that TouchPal brings you really joyful input experience! Thank you again!

Best regards,

TouchPal
[Desire Themes and Apps] TouchPal:
Dear xybadog,

Thank you for your participation in TouchPal's beta testing and your sincere support and help for the stability and improvement of TouchPal's new version!

The beta version might be updated frequently. Please pay attation to our posts.

Also you can follow us in facebook(TouchPal) and twitter(www.twitter.com/touchpal) to receive the latest updates from us.

Hope that TouchPal brings you really joyful input experience! Thank you again!

Best regards,

TouchPal
[Desire Themes and Apps] TouchPal:
Dear theyau,

Thank you for your participation in TouchPal's beta testing and your sincere support and help for the stability and improvement of TouchPal's new version!

The beta version might be updated frequently. Please pay attation to our posts.

Also you can follow us in facebook(TouchPal) and twitter(www.twitter.com/touchpal) to receive the latest updates from us.

Hope that TouchPal brings you really joyful input experience! Thank you again!

Best regards,

TouchPal
[Desire Themes and Apps] sidkl301:
can i also try?

m.nolsen@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] mantas7776:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] wyd4:
I would love to try it. I am always looking for a faster better way to type.

My email is wydafuknot@Gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Sirhcchris:
I can confirm this works with Xj miui with no known issues. Ota update did not affect it. Nice layout with lots of options. Will continue to test and comment when I'm familiar with all of the features.

Thanks for the opertunity.

Sirhc
[Desire Themes and Apps] cfs_mihai:
Apply for beta testing

if it's still available!
[Desire Themes and Apps] mat9:
After I download the beta file it says " unable to open password protected file" and when I try to unzip it with androzip it just says unzip operation failed. Is thrre something else I need to do?
[Desire Themes and Apps] Juls317:
Download Bluetooth File Transfer from the market and use that
[Desire Themes and Apps] znauz:
Im interested!

opirity@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Meaple:
I kinda take that back. I think it's awesome and it looks nice, way nicer than Swype. But I've noticed that I am making tons of mistakes, more than what I made on Swype. Maybe it just needs to get use to my sentences? But still.

I am also a bit (very) disappointed that there is no auto capitalisation at all. Unlike the other 99% of people, I use capitals in my sentences, something which should of been added.

I will continue to test this and leave feedback.
[Desire Themes and Apps] mantas7776:
Do I gonna get that? Mantas7776@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Juls317:
I prefer it over Swype but it isnt very accurate. I find myself switching betweeen TouchPal and Swiftkey X
[Desire Themes and Apps] taqri85:
yes the first word of the sentence should be upper case. this bug should be fixed.

Sent from two cans and a few strings.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Splinter1231:
Apply for beta testing

splinter1231@gmail.com

Thanks ^_^
[Desire Themes and Apps] alexsavencu:
TouchPal sounds awesome!

Please include me in the beta program.

Cheers,

Alexandru Savencu
[Desire Themes and Apps] kodein:
Apply for beta testing

thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] Smithyster:
Apply for beta testing :D
[Desire Themes and Apps] Ketelbinie971:
Apply for beta testing..

Thanks
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Apply for beta testing
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Apply for beta testing : epi.adrien@g m a i l.com

Thanks!
[Desire Themes and Apps] max_carpenter:
Apply for Beta Testing

Apply for Beta Testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] tiyab:
Testing the keyboard and i'm being very please by the first test of this keyboard.

Some features are really nice like swype up to get a maj and swype down to get a number.

Really responsive.

Hoping to see more layout (azerty) and more dictionnary soon.

keep the good work.
[Desire Themes and Apps] bErNaRdSfInGeRs:
Apply for beta testing

Cheers!
[Desire Themes and Apps] tr0ner:
I'd like to test it too. Thx in advance for a pm
[Desire Themes and Apps] kodein:
when the official version?
[Desire Themes and Apps] mariete22:
I will like to test it! I'm waiting for pm.
[Desire Themes and Apps] cez10:
Apply for Beta Testing

thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] geokilla:
Blind typing eh. Nothing will beat me blind typing on my Sony Ericsson W715 with T9. Texting with one hand without looking. I type really fast too. My friends are all like :eek:
[Desire Themes and Apps] ekiwi:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] damaged prawdukt:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] chich88:
Apply for beta testing

Thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] cgjones:
I would like to be a beta tester for this. Thanks.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Sleepydude:
I'd like to be a beta tester for this, thanks.
[Desire Themes and Apps] balthor80:
Apply for beta testing

Thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] CdrVimes:
apply for testing.

thanks.
[Desire Themes and Apps] dehaani:
I would also like to test this please.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Demenso3:
I'd like to be a beta test. thanks.
[Desire Themes and Apps] hamburgo8855:
Apply For Beta tester.
[Desire Themes and Apps] p0pey13:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] Spyrek10:
Apply for beta tests.
[Desire Themes and Apps] kboya:
Apply for beta. Thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] poltak11:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] narutox78x:
I wan't to try too
[Desire Themes and Apps] feedy:
Apply for beta. Thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] raZr0708:
I would want to be a beta tester if i can :)

ivansuti@gmail.com

Thanks :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] Redist:
Apply for Beta testing !
[Desire Themes and Apps] Dr.Android:
Would like to try it.

alpkun@gmail.com

thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] a.trimarchi:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] H3i:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] Taskman:
Wrong thread!
[Desire Themes and Apps] whitetigerdk:
If this could be any better than SlideIt too then let me do the testing..
[Desire Themes and Apps] gatsu_1981:
Apply for Beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] mikeandjaimie:
Apply for beta testing!
[Desire Themes and Apps] adbirdie:
apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] COOLover:
i would like to try the german

coolover@g
[Desire Themes and Apps] skigill:
Apply for beta testing skigilley@yahoo.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] grcd:
I would very much like to give this a try...

*Apply for beta testing*

E-mail: karoutas AT gmx D.O.T. net [sorry for the crude anti-spam effort, but I already receive way too much spam]

Thanks a lot,

grcd.
[Desire Themes and Apps] rassha:
beta testing

I also want to apply for beta testing

rassha AT gmail DOT com
[Desire Themes and Apps] steve46:
Apply for beta testing!
[Desire Themes and Apps] drakexv:
Applying for betabeta
[Desire Themes and Apps] ckhacks:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] Gaterade:
Apply for beta test :)

gaterade@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] ConradGrice:
Apply for beta testing

Conradgrice@Gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Desirebrot:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] MrJayJay:
Apply for beta testing...
[Desire Themes and Apps] r.king35:
Apply for Beta testing !

r.king35@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Southern_mind:
Apply for beta testing.

I have used swipe and flex t9 so I would love to try this. Thanks

My ADR6400L is just as good as your PG86100.
[Desire Themes and Apps] HzeMaffe:
Apply for beta testing.

niko.hast@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] MordyT:
Apply for beta. My username at gmail.com

Via my phone
[Desire Themes and Apps] burzi85:
Apply for beta testing.

wbierbauer@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] sterankin:
Apply for beta testing

Thanks - pm me
[Desire Themes and Apps] hoosyerdaddy:
Apply for beta testing

lonewolv3rine@gmail.com

Thanks!
[Desire Themes and Apps] killa_byte:
Apply for beta testing

majaveli@hotmail.com

Thanks!
[Desire Themes and Apps] Demondudi:
Apply for beta testing

demondudi@hotmail.de
[Desire Themes and Apps] r.king35:
This works brilliantly, no problems so far and the swype across the keyboard works great too.
[Desire Themes and Apps] dicomorell:
Im up for beta testing.

Dicomorell@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Manek49:
marcel.zuzanek@gmail.com

thanks:)
[Desire Themes and Apps] SimonCraddock:
Apply for Beta testing !
[Desire Themes and Apps] chukymoi:
Apply for Beta testing!
[Desire Themes and Apps] ciprigeorgiu:
would like to be a tester:

ciprian.georgiu@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] k2vintout:
I would love to test it out, swype is good but sometimes it is kinda of hard to get what you want!

Thx

k2vintout'@' gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] noobandroid:
apply beta test a.lan.ssasin@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] backfromthestorm:
And ME!

neverstopjamin@googlemail.com

Thanks!
[Desire Themes and Apps] DrZoS:
Apply for beta testing.
[Desire Themes and Apps] soronk:
apply for beta testing :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] colonelsanders99:
apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] dehaani:
I do like this keyboard. It seems to perform better than Swype.

I've moved on to HTC Trace though. It just seems a bit tidier. I found TouchPal's layout a bit unfamiliar (which shouldn't be a problem) but also a wee bit clumsy or unintuitive. Also, I think the alt (long press) symbols and digits should be above the defaults, not below.

Thank you for allowing me to test it. It is a good product.
[Desire Themes and Apps] JaisonGJI1815:
Please add me for testing too :-)
[Desire Themes and Apps] Eradorius:
Please add me too :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] dozer123456:
Hi do you have an apk or zip for the htc trace keyboard that will work on the desire.
[Desire Themes and Apps] TouchPal:
Dear dozer123456 ，

This version doesn’t support tablet. It would be supported in the future.

Hope that TouchPal brings you really joyful input experience! Thank you again!

Best regards,

TouchPal
[Desire Themes and Apps] MarciWoi:
Beta Test

The link for beta tester is down, please add me :p

MarciWoi@googlemail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] Morbie:
Apply for beta testing
[Desire Themes and Apps] :
I apply, too!

PM please!
[Desire Themes and Apps] ElmoFr:
Apply for beta testing (if you still need testers)

I'll be glad to test the French support
[Desire Themes and Apps] w1000i:
muataz.km@gmail.com

for test !
[Desire Themes and Apps] dknox1:
Apply for beta testing please :)

Looks great!
[Desire Themes and Apps] dknox1:
or if you prefer to send by email.
[Desire Themes and Apps] adriahno:
Apply for beta testing

adriahno@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] salarkhel:
salarkhel@gmail.com
[Desire Themes and Apps] live_0978:
"Apply for beta testing"
[Desire Themes and Apps] UltimateGoblin:
I'd like to apply for beta testing too :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] mirr0r:
Apply for beta testing

(Italian keyboard if need)
[Desire Themes and Apps] Sibbi:
Apply for beta testing, please.

Have a good evening.
[Desire Themes and Apps] lokson_leong:
count me in please!

lokson_leong@yahoo.com.hk
[Desire Themes and Apps] abhayks:
apply for beta teat
[Desire Themes and Apps] malcovitch:
Apply for beta testing thanks
[Desire Themes and Apps] Migz71:
Same here can i apply for beta testing cheers ;)
[Desire Themes and Apps] venustraphobic:
awesome thanks

I'm loving it