yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
That's the stable. You need the beta

Sent from your bedroom
[HTC Sensation] IcOpRo:
Do you have the files you can link me maybe? I click on the beta link and it comes up with a blank, ive tried it a couple of times and nocigar
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
the link is down right now, it should be up tomorrow.:cool:
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
latest update before a 2 month !! when we will se HDR ??
[HTC Sensation] HashTagHell:
Again, he said the developer that knows how to help won't help. It will not happen until then.
[HTC Sensation] zimphishmonger:
Noticed InsertCoins's new version has a modded camera that has panorama, HDR and bitrate selector? Is it a newer version then is available here?

PS Beta repo seems to be down
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
No it is not a newer version. I believe that the developer for InsertCoins modded the camera, and ErosizeD is trying to recreate that (with that developers help) but with better quality (higher bitrate). If you check out the camera app for that rom I think it only goes up to 20Mbps, ErosizeD is trying to increase that to 40Mbps.

And for the Beta link he addressed that at the top of the OP.
[HTC Sensation] dipje:
I'm waiting (trying with patience :P) for this mod to finish with the latest, HDR I don't care about, panorama is nice but not necessarily needed for me. The bitrate on videos en jpeg settings for photos make the camera actually usable and pretty good though. Running AndroidHD 3.0.4 now with the HTCCamera.apk from InsertCoin 2.4.2 and that's working. Videos go to 20mbps and if you turn of 'auto enhance' on the photos it gets better pictures (no over the top blur) but still would like the jpeg 100% quality from this mod :).
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
I don't think it plays well with faux's kerel. Right now I only have superb and low in my settings. All other gone. And a 20 second video on full hd and superb setting was only 20mbps.

Sent from your bedroom
[HTC Sensation] dipje:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I'm not using this mod. Simply AndroidHD and the HTCCamera.apk from the latest InsertCoin incremental update.
[HTC Sensation] Hgaara:
Would you mind posting it for us?
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
If dipje decides to share that modded app I think he should PM it so people will not get confused with all the HTCCamera.apks going around, especially because that modded app is not ErosizeD work.
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
It would be better if he liked to the original thread. Since its not his.

Sent from your bedroom
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Calm down everyone!

Im very bussy right now, tomorrow y will pay my VPS ISP so the servers will reactive. ( i hope that ).

About my MOD, my mod is a tweaked version of default camera, nothing to do with any other camera mod.

I modified a loot of stuff on the apk, to get 100% quality jpeg, 40mbps bitrate, and few things more...

So this MOD, is suposed to be a better mod from any others.

Im gonna say this again, i'm not an experienced developer so im doing my best.

Next beta test, is higher sound quality.
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Nice
[HTC Sensation] destroyerbmx:
I am not sure but I do a ton of video editing and 60fps is some awesome stuff to work with, is there a way we can that type of frame rate out of this camera? Like in 720p or even lower?
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
I don't think so, I do not think our camera sensor is that powerful but don't take my errors for it. Can someone answer this better than I can?
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
guys is there a custom ROM that includes this awesome camera mod?

my phone is quite new, i haven't even rooted it yet :) tried lgCamera but the video is choppy, not smooth like stock camera.

downside with stock, yes, you can clearly see the low encoding bitrate. Hell it was better (16mbps @ 720P) on my old SGS1 :)

personally i think anything more than 18-24mbps is overkill, not even handheld AVCHD camcorders use profiles more than 24mbps @1080P. OK they have totally different components but the bitrate is clear.
[HTC Sensation] dipje:
I think that even the lens is the limiting factor. The sensor and lens are slow to receive light, so we need larger shutter times to get something of a clear picture. At 60fps we need a shutter time of at most 1000/60. Or camera would produce only darkness at that setting I'm afraid.
[HTC Sensation] dipje:
I'm not going to link OR post :-) .

1. It has nothing todo with this topic, since it's somebody else's hard work.

2. InsertCoin is the most popular mod out there I believe, and the thread is always visible high on the first page. Like I said, you need the htccamera.apk from the 2.4.2 incremental update. It's a small download and you can just extract the apk from the zipfile on your PC.
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Not at all, the sensor on Sensation is suposed to support 720P at 60FPS.

But that need kernel editing, because is limited to 30fps for sure.

With the kernel at 60Fps ( max ) i can start playing with higher FPS values for 720P.

Actually the sensation can play 1080p @ 60FPS h264 ( and 720P ) so there is a chance...
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
You the man!
[HTC Sensation] dipje:
You're talking about the encoding engine in the SoC, that can indeed support 60fps. The optics (sensor + lens) HTC used in the sensation can't as far as I can see. Love to be proved wrong though :). The camera has already problems sustaining 30fps just because the shutter-speed has to be too big (that's why mods who force the ISO 800 setting yield better fps).
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
My sensation doesn't have shutter problems, super fast taking photos, i think the fastest phone i never seen... ( faster than SGSII also )

The problem i think is related with the kernel maybe, or the camera need more improvements.

Raise the clock value on the camcorder can increase the bandswitch and stabilize the FPS, im not sure but well...

About the DSP, in theory only handle up to 30fps at 1080P but doesn't say anything about 720P at 60FPS, and i can play via hardware 1080/720P at 60FPS so i think the DSP supports that type of encoding.

But the developers, doesn't seems interested on tweaking the camera, and i think is one of the most important things to tweak, because actually aren't improved to its 100% of power.

Look at the HTC HD2, can do 720P but only have that on WP7, the N900 can do 720P but no one try to implement... also can handle higher bitrate recordings, but no one try to raise the actual bitrate.

I think the camera are a bit abandoned... I started to develop on the camera, because i think, with this maybe can motivate other developers like me ( but with more knowledge than me ) to do the same or better with this or any other device.

And in my case i want to learn more, to make better and better my mods/roms.

Because how i say , Happy people are the best gift ( for me ) and Happy people make a better world. ( maybe this sounds stupid for someone )

Damn i think i exceeded a bit on my words hehe.
[HTC Sensation] dipje:
Lol, I'm talking about shutter-speed, photographic term. It has nothing to do with how fast the phone can take photos :).

If you want to do 60fps, you need a shutter speed of (1000/60) = 16.6 ms. Light needs to fall for 16ms on the sensor, after that it needs to process the frame and repeat it for the next frame.

Our sensor and lens will produce mostly darkness and or noise at that setting, that's what I'm afraid of.

The cause why the camera is giving neat 30fps in sunlight but struggles to get a proper framerate in darkness is the exact same thing. In the outside, it decides that light needs to fall for 25ms on the sensor each frame to produce a clear picture. Fast enough to do it 30 times a second (or a bit more).

Once you go into darkness, it decides it needs 50ms of light on the sensor to get something of a (noisy) picture. You can't do that 30 times a second, hence the framerate of the recording drops.
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Hey ErosizeD I have a question, now that aosp roms are starting to roll out are you going to do this mod for those roms or are you going to stay with Sense? I'm on MIUI alpha right now and it is nice. The camera doesn't work yet but when it does maybe you can start an aosp camera mod?
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
i just tried SGS2 camera and it's super smoooooth !!!

can u make camera app smooth like SGS2 ??:confused:
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
does anyone have the beta somewhere available for download????
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
@Tone503773

Actually not, because on 2 days im gonna start stuidying, and i be bussy at all.

But i can try.

@-juanito-

SGSII camera smooth? yea yea... the focus sucks, actually the autofocus on O3D, muuch muuuch better than SGSII, and the quality similar ( with my tweaks practically the same )

@zerozoneice

Tomorrow, the servers will be reactivated for sure, just wait.
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
i like the mod..but i don't like the UI :(
[HTC Sensation] Part Four:
Agreed. UI looks cheesy to me. But who cares? I'm more concerned with the results than what I have to look at while obtaining them.
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
With the v2 im gonna post the stock UI also, and "tweak" a bit all the other UI, to make more cool. :D
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
News about ETA?
[HTC Sensation] LupusHD2:
um, question: this won't work on aosp roms right ?
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Understandable, I start classes on the 26th so I'm sure around then Sensation operations will start to slow down.
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
I'm pretty sure (but not 100%) it is not because this is a mod of the Sense camera and usually Sense and Aosp is not compatible with one another. When development starts on a HTC phone there is usually Sense developers and Aosp developers.
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
how can you choose between the three UIs???

i can't find any settings anywhere
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
u can't change UI
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
ok so is there a downloadable APK (beta, whatever) that has the following working?

MP4 output, thanks mdeejay (at XDA).

Bitrate selector for all modes ( thanks to SEO, thanks to him for this great feature )

Minimalist White UI.

Minimalist Black UI.

Stock improved UI.

XDA UI.

The beta link on FP is not working...

LeeDroid 3.0 saves HD video in MP4 container instead of 3GP, could that be his own development?

Is it maybe based on this mod?

There's a couple of camera mods floating around, but they're different..

All have bitrate selection, but only Lee's saves as MP4.
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Question

Answer

ErosizeD is having problem with MP4 out and HDR, he is trying to get help but is not having any luck.

CWM http://www.mediafire.com/?t8w2w00i7hf55an ( flasheable )

This link is from the OP and it is "Stable", it has only 20Mbps though and no bit selector or panorama. Actually this mod is based off of LeeDroid's mod I believe.
[HTC Sensation] joshndroid:
Doesn't work on cm7 breaks the cameras :)
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
No mate, this mod is made 100% by me.

Just added some features like bitrate selector, and Mdeejay who helped me with that mp4 ( not working by any reason ).

All the other stuff ( like the 40mbps ) are made here hehe :D

Okay now the important stuff... i want to release the v2 now... but the bitrate still not working, so i want to proposte something to everyone!

Release the V2 with all the new features ( but witouth bitrate selector )

1080P at 40mbps ( for full HD videos everywere, important situations or for people who have 32gig SD super good class 2 minimum, like mine, getting arround 5MB/s writes speed or more required for 40mbps. )

720P at 20mbps ( standart good quality, for regular use )

QHD at 15mbps ( for long time recordings, not so important )

The panorama

And then all the User Interface ( you can choose 1 of the 4 )

The Image quality raised to its maximum, video stability and other small tweaks.

And then by my way test that stupid bitrate selector, and when i get working, release the v2.1.

What do you think?
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Thanks for correcting me, trying to help but don't have all the info.:)

And I think everyone would be fine with your choice of release, at least I am. I'm excited:D, I think this may be the only way I would stay with Sense because Aosp cameras does not have nearly the quality that this mod has and because I take a lot of pictures/video.
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
yea awesome!

hit us with some download links please :D :D

i was really confused on who developed what since there is different mods around...i'm telling you, LeeDroid's version works fine with MP4 and selectable bitrates....Panorama works too (****ty vertical pixel count, but it works) and HDR was enabled but didn't do anything properly.

so what now, you're stuck at 40mbps for 1080P? :)

really 40mbps it's overkill, not even AVCHD handheld cameras go higher than 24mbps....

here are few wishlist things (probably others will agree):

- 1080p @ 20, max 24 mbps suffices

- 720p @ 14, max 20 mbps

- Panorama mode with better vertical resolution

- MP4 container

- viewfinder smoothness while panning/shooting (right now with all modded bitrates i get jerky video on the screen when shooting it, but the recorded video is smooth?!)

- HDR nice to have but there's plenty of good 3rd party alternatives

so YES, release NOW v2 please :D

oh one more thing: have you guys actually made good pictures using the LED blitz? Mine come out whitewashed, no matter how far or close i am from the subject...
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
please release HDR with V2
[HTC Sensation] old_god:
Flashing it into CM7 but did not work. Upon opening Camcorder or Camera they both get FC.

Are there plans to port this camera mod to CM7 ? I don't think I understand the issue completely, but this incompatibility stems from the Sense and AOSP differences, right?

Any plans for an AOSP mod then?
[HTC Sensation] Hgaara:
same here, its a camera mod. To make the camera better. I want the best possible quality Dobro ahead and release it cause who knows how long it'll take at this rate.
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Okay, first of all need to install windows again, now im on linux ( my windows just die :( due virus, stupid random cracks :D ), and im not linux friendly.

ETA of 3-4 Days ( Today I started to study so i get to bussy on few weeks )

When i get installed windows, im gonna remake again the MOD with all the modifications, and then release 2 version and my custom interface.

About that people who talk about Cyanogen MOD roms... im not almost sure, but i can try to port the mod to that roms also! but need another moded apk ( not sense 3.0 ).
[HTC Sensation] Vipeout:
I JUST wanted to install the mod for the first time and then saw ver2 is coming, so guess I'll play the waiting game :)

Maybe the thing about 40mbps for 1080P being overkill is right. There's no use to waste storage space for non-visible benefits.

Other than that, go for it, am waiting vor v2. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
It seem that finally the hosting site can be reached.... ;)
[HTC Sensation] K2000:
I never tried the 30Mbps but between 40 and 20 Mbps the results are clearly visible, what are you talking about?
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Study away then man, good luck with it.
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
30 mbps its OK on non populated areas like your home, or your car...

But sit on a car, and then go to the mountain and record outdoor... and you can see there still "pixelations" and other ****s due insuficient bitrate....

I think 40mbps its perfect, ****ing clear, amazing quality 30mbps its ok, but 40 its perfect, and no FPS dropping this is the best of all!

About the space... if you doesnt want to waste space with 720P youre fine, because at 20mbps 1080P still looking like **** ( for me and most ), and 720P at 20mbps waste the same space as 1080P.

( the resolution doesnt care so much in this situations )

So, lower bitrate for 720P and higher bitrates for 1080P. ( space / quality )

PD: The main servers are active again, so can download the beta version to test.
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
could you tell me wich one is the exact media profile that work at 40mbps with the old beta htcamera? (path please)
[HTC Sensation] daewond3r:
I really loved this camera mod. I hope something like this can be developed for CM7/AOSP roms.
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
oh yea one more thing: can the microphone gain in stereo recording be turned down or adjusted? everyone is complaining about clipping noise when using stereo sound :(

workaround is to disable stereo recording, but it's not really a long term option.

maybe the modders can do some magic?

checked the beta files, the "old" XML seems to have the higher bitrate?!

so which files are which? any chance for a CWM package for beta?
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
+1!

Adjusting mic gain would be EXCELLENT. I record a lot of videos with loud sources and the clipping is terrible. Doesn't even need to be loud, just close to the mic.
[HTC Sensation] Tone503773:
Modder said he will not make zips for the Beta app only the Official Release app.:)
[HTC Sensation] moresco.dt:
I agree, hope be realizable.
[HTC Sensation] rosedog:
Okay I have a question regarding the CameraMOD. Can this mod be undone by itself? If so, how? I tried searching "how to undo CameraMOD" but did not see anything.

Would I have to reflash my backup of my stock ROM in order to achieve this?
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
Just take the htccamera.apk and media_profiles.XML from a stock rom and replace it
[HTC Sensation] Ankobarabanko:
+1 for the stereo mic gain. I made a lot of videos on my wedding and later while playing them back i was really disapointed :(
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
whoho! ro.media.jpeg.quality=100 done exactly what i wanted. Thanks to OP for giving me an idea what to look for ;)
[HTC Sensation] gregman26:
How to change the value ?
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
System > build.prop
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Actually the apk is set it to 100 so doesnt care...

About that people who talk about stereo mic gain, i can take a look, maybe raising the audio bitrate to 320 will reduce that noise, or raising the frequency to 48Khz.

Just need to test.
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
I've used an app which increases the audio bitrate and sampling rates, and neither get rid of the clipping. The mic gain and/or recording volume needs to be adjusted.

Apparently it's possible if the kernel supports it, see here. Now we just need to get Faux123 to program in support ;-)
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
So is kernel problem?
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Not sure I'd call it a kernel problem... just that the mic gain can be set by the kernel, so if you have a kernel that allows an application to set it, then it can be set by the camera app.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Ok. I've done it on stock so there is a difference. Not using your mod as just cannot afford massive files. How many mb is 1 minute on max settings?

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] gregman26:
Etrange, with this tweak in build.prop, size picture not exceed 2.5-3mo !! But with my SGS2, 4-5mo !!
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
i copied the htccamera apk and media profiles from the beta folder, rebooted, started camera app and after pressing record it closes and goes back to sense interface...
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
1-Already done that. now there is no compression.

2-Yes, there is still the .3 gp, when I try to record in change. Mp4 it does not work, so this need a bit of more work.3

Just i dont know if there are any difference so, we need to make a comparison.
[HTC Sensation] innerspace:
test vids

I figured out why you couldn't get those files:

here they are http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CV9FM3GY

sorry for the delay
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Wait a moment... 400MB?? what is that? :eek:
[HTC Sensation] Hgaara:
Question, would you be able to intrograte new features to the camera is that out of the realm of possibility? For instance, my brothers galaxy s 4G hs image stability. Also, things like hdr?
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Mhh it isn't impossible! depends of what features you whant.

Anyway, need more help or more research if i whant to do that.

And yes, that is possible but how i say... need more research, or an experienced developer ( HTC Camera is hard coded and it's hard to understand this **** )

I researched on about 200 files? to finally modify that ****ing bitrate...
[HTC Sensation] Hgaara:
Haha thankfully we appreciate your work. Hopefully chefs use your work to better their room camera application.

Is image stability something you can modify or is that hardware?

Btw, three things I noticed.

1) when I open the camera or camcorder I get a huge stretched quick one second splash screen of the camera or camcorder. I don't think that was there before. It's a big white outline of the icon htc uses.

2) the picture preview box is kinda ugly, because it has no borders and is just a big square picture of the last one you took.

3) when I tap to focus, the focus icon that appears, isn't centered.. Or in the place I tapped. It usually is above where I tapped by a bit.

Just small eye candy issues, but thought you should know.
[HTC Sensation] tech_p:
1080p video without mod

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1080p video with mod

[YOUTUBE]CV4NYwtfYkA[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]68GUeFpdm8o[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
Thanks for the reports.

1- Yes, that problem is because the compiler ( or maybe for some codes on the apk ), i don't know, but stoped working...

2- Yes! i made a test, modifying a png, so relax, this will be fixed in the FINAL release.

3- Hahahaha!, that is because the png need to be in horitzontal and i made it on vertical... that is the reason.

I will say it again, this is a beta, to test how work the bitrate at 20mbps, if works for everyone, i will go a bit higher and if work again, will release all the mods, fully functional. ( no beta )

@tech_p THANKS for that video, later i will conect to talk. :D
[HTC Sensation] Hgaara:
No worries, since it's beta just thought id do my part and mentioned some things I noticed. I do love the quality by the btw!
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
I'm not sure what mdeejay meant either but that guy is almost as high as it gets as developers so its gotta be a good thing :D
[HTC Sensation] banesi:
is there anything that can be done to actualy increase FPS? it will help fluidity and in my opinion is much more important than raw frame rate or video size, for example, making 720p in 60fps will make a video much more closer to real cameras
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
MDJ... with bitrate... i'm feel frustrated...

Edited some bad words...

Everyone pissed me off ( some developers ), and now watch! :mad:

About this... maybe it's possible, but i dont know if the DSP can handle it... i dont have so much information about it...
[HTC Sensation] j_r0dd:
Since the current bluray standard is 24 fps, I think 60 fps would be overkill. Just my 2 pennies
[HTC Sensation] Christopher3712:
I'd guess he's just letting us know he's keeping his eye on this thread.
[HTC Sensation] Shaquiel Harris:
This mod is amazing. GREAT job. love the way you can touch where you want to focus. this is fancy.
[HTC Sensation] banesi:
well, if we can have 24fps as a minimum I think it will be fine, but as soon as you start moving phone while recording, frames drops so much that it's unwatchable for me

just try your digital camera with high fps recording and you'll see what I mean, I think James Cameron said that he'll start shoting in 60fps, wonder why it took them so long in first place
[HTC Sensation] pakraider:
That's 1080p@24fps. banesi was talking about 720p. most consumer HD camcorders can do 720p@60fps to give a nice, fluid, TV-like picture.
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
I will take a look to FPS, but maybe the kernel is inbolved!

Leedroid wants to join on this ( maybe ), so maybe we can make this :p
[HTC Sensation] mdeejay:
tomeu0000

sorry but in our rom not your mod.

we not kangers like some others "devs"

in all our roms only devteam work.

(or maybe i dont understand something?? :D )
[HTC Sensation] WhiteSites:
I see the download link for 20Mbit, but not 30Mbit. I have a 32 GB class 10 card. Would love to try out the 30Mbit version. What would it take to add a custom Bit Rate selector so people could adjust their bitrate from the camera's menu?