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[Atrix 4G General] gnahc79:
I've put off re-installing go launcher ex for now to give the 2.3.4 stock launcher a try. So far it's very nice and I don't see any significant functional drawbacks. The stock launcher is not as flashy with transition animations, but I'm ok with that if it means running fewer resources. Is anyone else using the stock launcher, find anything that's not so great?
[Atrix 4G General] mgymnop:
Totally agree. I just installed fancy widgets because I am not a big fan of the blur widgets; everything else is stock and I am very satisfied.
[Atrix 4G General] TheBassman369:
I used it for a while but it lagged like crazy. I'm sticking with Launcher Pro/Go Launcher EX/ADW EX.
[Atrix 4G General] Tikerz:
The stock launcher for me was laggy. I'm using Go Launcher EX and it's much smoother even with many widgets.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Using ADW EX here and it runs smoothly on GB.
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
can you hide apps in the list on the stock launcher? that's the biggest reason i ditched it for go launcher. also i liked the page by page horizontal app view better.
[Atrix 4G General] gnahc79:
With the stock launcher you can create groups, which displays selected apps for the entire page of apps. I think it's better the go launcher's folder function, which only shows apps in a sub-panel. Something like only 4x4 apps at a time I think.

The vertical app view is not too bad, I do miss the horizontal view from go launcher some. With the stock vertical app view it's nice that you can scroll only one or more rows of apps at a time vs and entire page on go launcher.

still deciding though :)
[Xperia Play General] Yourmama:
I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things :)

I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.

Is it worth it?
[Xperia Play General] jassired:
My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x
[Xperia Play General] _terror_:
I say go for it 4 sure. If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 :) It's totally worth it!

everyday phone? Oh yeah! It works great!

Don't listen to that guy talking about dual core. You don't need it on a phone!! seriously, WHY would you need dual core? Everything i've tried on my play works like a charm! :)
[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.

Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!
[Xperia Play General] _terror_:
that was exactly what i meant haaha +1
[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
^^^ I'm being sarcastic in my last post, in case the OP didn't catch that.

I'm very happy with my Play as a gaming phone and everyday phone. My wife has a Droid 3, and there isn't much difference at all, if any, in app performance and daily phone use. I have much better battery life as well. She has a better camera ;) Maybe eventually apps will start taking advantage of multiple cores, but it's going to be a while.

You can't play this game on a touch screen very well...

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[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
It is very simple. How much do you value playing both Android-native and emulated games against the rest of features in a phone? If you really want to play games in a phone, this is your device.

If you don't value playing games over dual core CPUs, slick designs, gorgeous screens and feature-rich cameras, you're not the target for this device. It has a very specific niche, which Sony Ericsson has spent millions in digging out. It's a love-it-or-hate-it product, with little middle ground.

Oh, and it has an astonishingly precise GPS.
[Xperia Play General] -josh-:
There are bad points about this phone but show me a perfect phone.

The best 2 things about this phone are obviously the control pad for 1 and the battery life, which has amazed me so far.

The only thing that I find annoying is the lack of decent games taking advantage of what is a great phone.

But I have to say I have started using emulators and they are quality, n64oid and fpse especially.

So to sum up its a great mix up between a gaming device and a smart phone. It is let down on the development side.

It all just depends on what you want if you like gaming I dont think you will be let down in purchasing this phone

Thats my two pennies anyway :-)
[Xperia Play General] Mozza2k11:
I have an xperia play and a few of my mates have dual core phones (SGS2, Optimus x2 e.t.c). I would not swap the Xplay for any of them.

As hairdewx has shown if you plan on playing anything with FPSE or emulators it is pointless on anything other than an xplay. The emulators alones let you play thousands of games with proper controls :D (makes it a 1000x better)

The speakers are the best on any phone. And the battery life is amazing to say this is a gaming device. Just using it as a normal phone it is as good as the rest.

I would recommend you get this phone. I think it will be hard for me to upgrade to a newer phone @ the end of my contract, unless it has proper gaming controls :). (Xplay 2 hopefully)
[Xperia Play General] Yourmama:
Thanks guys :D I don't know I just might get it :P the only setback was the lack of an HD screen and the core issue :P but seems that the people who have the phone are enjoying it, I will see :D
[Xperia Play General] enerp8:
When I saw the title of the thread I opened it to give my opinion about this phone. But when I read the previous answers, all that I wanted to say had already been said, so I gave up writing a big text because I don't have anything new to say!

Then I'll only say that it's an awesome phone, buy it without any fear, you won't regret it. ;)
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts
[Xperia Play General] jdsemler:
It is my favorite device. I just put in 2 hours of Beyond the Beyond without any awful on screen controls or bluetooth shenanigans.

Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.

The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.

If you enjoy games more than just casually and really enjoy emulation, there is no other real option IMHO.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly :confused:
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
K Sound Agreed, Battery however i would like to know what miracle device you are using to keep it powered cause even with the 2.3.3 update which i wont le improved battery life significantly, i dont find its able to keep up with the demand especially noticable when streaming data i.e. skyFM or TuneInRadio(awsome app by the way for a phone with no FM reciever any radio station you could imagine....from all 7 contenent...yes there is a sat radio station based in antarctica for the 12 people that are ever there at one time, sheesh im Canadian and i say no thanks to that lol sorry off topic tired and ranting), and camera is decent quality 5.0mp front is only1.2 so self portraits are a little grainy i find, but none the less i have to agreee it could use more features to the actual cam its self
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
didnt know N64oid v2 was out thanks!, and as for the ps one emu i think i might just steal whatever games they release seeing as i pretty much bought a psone in a phone seems a little redundant to download a program on top of that....just cant wait to see if they find a way to release FFVII and VIII to the phone
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
Just get an android phone you like

to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
Anyone interested

found a decent site on app creation for android....vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html

sorry bout not making it a link apparently i havent posted enough for our Naziesq forum rules
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Haven't you pissed on this guy's thread enough? Then you come into a forum with people who are obvious playstation and Sony fans and say the Xbox360 "wins in every department" which is so untrue its not even funny but I'm not getting into that flame war here.

You don't seem to like the phone much, and you don't seem to like PS much, door is to the left, go buy another phone then.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
I'm not a playstation or a sony fan, i have and xbox360 and wouldnt swap it for a ps3 if sony paid me, infact my phone is the only sony product i own, i loves games though, and i love the xperia play, for that reason :)
[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
Yea yea I'm with this guy obviously Buddy is touched in the head cause he thinks that xbox360 "wins in every department" the 360 is the biggest piece of crap out there it plays games way slower than a ps3 and in games like mw2 when too much happens on screen it practically comes to a stop. If YOU don't like the phone don't come here bashing the **** out of it just get rid of the thing and get something else geez
[Xperia Play General] mhyke13ph:
In the future, can XPlay support PS2/Dreamcast Games too?
[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
Not emulation-wise. No phones for a long time will be able to do that.

Native Android games can reach those graphic levels on the Play, though.
[Xperia Play General] Yourmama:
Wow :P Thanks for all the opinions ! =D I think that I will get this phone soon :P in the following week or 2 ^^

and with 4g support it should be pretty cool :D
[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
FPSE plays those games just fine

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[Xperia Play General] sdlaurin:
Cant understand what you could possibly be doing to your play to have that bad luck with your emu. I have stock rogers rom never updated but rooted with no bloat removed and I run fpse and n64oid old version without issue.
[Xperia Play General] sdlaurin:
3.55 km ps3 here, no other console touches mine been offered 1500.00 just for my unit and I still wont part with it. I dislike and distrust sony but you cant beat the system I own. This phone is no different. Its a gamers phone designed and licensed by dickheads but the is no better gamers phone on the planet. Dont by this phone, buy something else I want my record 153 kill 0 deaths 154.
[Xperia Play General] sdlaurin:
Sorry I dont know why it quoted you that was an error on my part, post want meant for yoy
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
Xperia play is the best phone I ever used in my life. I don't know how i can ever get another phone without these game pads....

The only reason I can think of to get a dual core phone is to show off the high benchmark scores.
[Xperia Play General] LemonPlusTea:
Advantages :

GAMEPAD ! ( emulation heaven )

Battery life awesome as hell.

DIsadvantages :

I don't know if its just me but my wifi signal keeps getting dropped, esp when im playing holdem poker ( dragonplay )

Also, apparently sony hates the phone so much they released it with a couple games and now we don't really have much quality games ._.

= THIS DEVICE IS ALSO HEAVIER THAN A IPHONE 4 =

But I still love it. :D
[Xperia Play General] _terror_:
nintendo 64 = N64oid - just google it. Then i've followed one of the threads on how to free up some memory by deleting some stocked apps. Then i use Task killer. So i got like 250mb+ in RAM. So i can play zelda perfect. Only downside is that it closes sometimes when you enter a house or another room, but I save everytime before i enter a new room or so :)

Playstation 1 = FPse, i think it's on the Market, otherwise just google it :)
[Xperia Play General] _terror_:
I have a Xbox 360 just because i think the live-thingy is way better then PS3's. And yes i HAD an ps3 but i sold it. I have a WDTV Live for BR-movies and it works perfect. I haven't been a fan of playstation or sony what so ever, this is my first sony device, and I'm more then happy. But I will buy a new PS3 just because there are some games that don't exist on Xbox 360.

Somebody said that Xbox 360 are **** and lags alot and ****, that's bull**** 4 sure! I've never had any problem with mine. Runs every game perfect :)

So ps3 or xbox 360, i don't give a ****, i like them both.
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
What modem /router are you using? I do agree that the Xplay wifi isn't as strong but i switched to the netgear wnr3500 and never dc once after. I can walk outside my apartment and 25to30 down the hall by the elevators and there is still signal.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
I have a netgear router in my bedroom, sometimes i loose connection if i go downstairs, i get about the same distance with my bluetooth headset :confused: but i think my router is not working proply anyway lol
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
To all the guys bring up me bashing the phone, the origin of the thread was looking for everyones opinion not those who like it, I do apologize if I offended any PS fans but meh at least i know my credit info is safe....k bad jab i know....and truely it is a good phone it does what it needs to do a few more tweeks and it will be great, I was more pissed that it seemed to be the top of the line phone at the end of that line like i said I bought the Play day 2 day three i got wind of Droid threes specs and was more disappointed iin my self for not shopping around because i love gaming, and i sacraficed a qwerty (no biggie really) for a ps controller. and if you feel the controller is necessary to play games then you were truly brought up on the console generation of games only. these phones are PC the emulators they run have key configuration, do you really think you couldnt assign keys just like a pc emu
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
Do you think that a Qwerty keyboard is as convenient for emulation as a PS controller?
[Xperia Play General] FK1983:
^Snap!

Although I did have a PS3, sold it thank goodness, 360 (knocks spots off ps3 in every way) and pc are all I need, oh, and the Play!
[Xperia Play General] KronikonE:
Simply yes, I can choose from multiple places whether i have small hands big hands, I can find the most comfortable place to hold the phone, not where they tell me too!
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
I can tell you its highly likely I've been playing computer/video games since before you were in diapers. Using the imprecise motion controls or touching spots on the screen while you're trying to see what you're doing (like in a racing game) is infinitely frustrating. But using a controller designed for games built into the phone with specific functions thats built to handle and feel right, I just don't know how you can compare. So you mention a key emulator, well every non-Play game offers 2 options, touch, or accelerometer control, so unless you plan on reverse engineering every game you have to work with the Droid 3's keyboard (which is still not as good as a dedicated game controller with shoulder buttons and analog sticks) that doesn't fly either.
[Xperia Play General] icebear8:
I came froms a epic 4g and I played a lot of games on it and playing marvel vs capcom or street fighter or anything fighter or resident evil on that thing was bad..... I dont use the camera that much, gps is really good way better then all my galaxey phones I had those were a joke in gps, all my ps1 games and n64 games play good no crash or forcecloses yet on any game and no slow down only thing im not happy about is this phone ain't rooted yet for the verizon yet and I really wanna do some custom boot animations and roms
[Xperia Play General] OTOGY2002:
How can one not listed, I have the optimus dual 2 months and 2 weeks I bought from the fantastic xperia play EURO 420 (new )

Go to xperia play, I recommend it !!!!!!!!!!
[Xperia Play General] jdsemler:
If you really like to play games that require real controls (not just Angry Bird/Cut the Rope type casual games) above most other features of the phone, then you should consider the Xperia Play.

I bought mine for gaming first and the other features as second.

As a phone, I don't like how fat the phone is, especially once you put a case on it. I'm also not a fan of the 4 Android buttons' location when using a case, since your finger can slip and either not fully press the key or press the key next to it. I like the HSPA+ I get on AT&T and the GPS Quality (especially after dealing with a Captivate that never worked right). Call quality is also good.

Like I said, this is for gaming first and phone second. I was once willing to look like this guy in the pic for this kind of device. Luckily, it doesn't look quite as bad. :)
[Xperia Play General] Deoxlar:
I think the most comfortable position is already evident in the play... It's a controller that mimics the design of a controller popular for the past 20 years... You will never get nearly as much comfortable with the qwerty keyboard... It doesn't feel the same
[Xperia Play General] captain67:
What are you talking about? The Play has 4G capabilities. The other name for 4G is HSPA+.

I agree with this guy. Having tactile controls is a lot better than having a second core that most games don't even need.

Plus, most of the current dual core models are LG and Motorola, and those are built poorly. The Samsung ones will be plagued by the same problems as the first galaxy s line.

Currently the only dual core model worth buying is the Evo 3D, and for gaming I'd still rather use a play.

Sent from my R800a
[Xperia Play General] crono141:
Verizon model does not do 4G. Its also still locked down and does not have any of the bells and whistles everyone else gets with their play.

If gaming is your primary desire from a phone (other than phone calls, obviously), the play is just fine, regardless of network. But if you like to tinker as well as game, the Verizon play, as it stands now, is a waste.

But this is verizon's fault, not SE.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
Aside from being locked in on the play launcher to use the VCast store, I'm not sure what else is missing? Some SE interface stuff? I downloaded life.contacts but it doesn't even work right (won't sync my Facebook), I guess there are other things? Otherwise this phone prettymuch gives a stock gingerbread 2.3.2 experience...
[Xperia Play General] enoch861:
95% of performance of a dual core phone? Are you on crack?

I'm not well educated on Verizon's phones since I'm on t mobile and I can honestly say, the G2x a Tegra 2 (dual core) device is absolutely smoother and faster in day to day use than any other phone I've used including the play. Sure, it doesn't get crazy battery life, and most Android phones don't unless you don't use it, but performance wise, it kills. Now, that's only the G2x but most, if not all, dual core phones have better performance than a single core phone.

My advice to the OP would be to go to Verizon's store and test each of the phones. Also he should take advantage of the return policy and buy one of the phones, use it, and then return it for another and test them like that. If the OP is looking for gaming, go for the play, and also take a look at the Droid 3 a Tegra 2 device simply because Tegra is a beast at gaming.

In the end, its up to what you want. Weigh all the features your looking for, then look at the phones with those features, and then make a decision based on what you find.

Happy phone shopping!
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
I used a Droid 3 and a Play side by side in the store and could barely tell the difference in regular OS operation. As for Gaming well I only had time in store to try the droid and didn't game on the play till I got home but it seems to function the same. That is to say, gaming on the play is smooth and no lag, so unless there is some graphical improvement (there isn't but maybe the dual core phone is capable of it if a game was programmed for it), I don't see a huge advantage.

I'm sure once programs and the OS are optimized for a dual core chipset the difference will be far more discernible, but as of right now IMHO it is not.
[Xperia Play General] hairdewx:
My wife has a Droid 3 and I have a Play, and it's hard to find many performance differences.

- Droid 3's camera is better

- web browsing seems a little bit smoother on the Droid 3, but not by much at all

- Play's battery life destroys the Droid 3

Let's Golf 2 and NOVA (came with Droid 3) play at the same level as they do on my Play. Games for a while won't take advantage of multiple cores. By then, hopefully the Play 2 will be out :)

And those Tegra only games? We have come to find they run just as well on non-tegra hardware. ;)
[Xperia Play General] raza9:
Coming from a galaxy s and in the last 2 months a galaxy S2 a Nokia E6 and flashing loads of different roms inc miui, I would say xperia play has to be the the best phone in terms of overall stability, call quality and battery life. In terms of processing speed, to be honest it’s hardly noticeable compared to the other phones. I also like the UI compared to the S2. You can add nice looking folders to the home screen with transition effects when opening and closing with the s2 its just simple folders that make the home screen look cheap and crap. Overall I’m most satisfied with this phone.
[Xperia Play General] labnjab:
Yes it is. Its fast and we love how fast games are, Then again we are coming from a rooted eris.
[Xperia Play General] Yourmama:
I got the play guys ! and I love it!

I just have one problem with the wifi though :S it has limited connectivity only on our router at home,

I started a thread but didn't get any answers,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1187072