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[LG Optimus 3D] hefonthefjords:
i've only played with both phones for a short while but i bought the optimus for two main reasons;

1. the camera is better (it shoots 3d, and really damn good 3d at that).

2. dual channel memory. faster memory is better memory.

i'd heard the horror stories about weak signals with the gs2 and that there are continuing problems with the gps. gps functionality isnt a massive concern for me but signal strength is as i spend a lot of my time in basement gig venues so i need something that will have a reliable signal in a difficult sitch like that. my wifi tests showed the o3d to be capable of around the 20mb mark which is pretty great. i dont know why the rest of you seem to think it can only do around 14mb as i consistently get around 19.5-20mb.

the touchscreen on the o3d responds better from what i've seen but again i am only basing that on 1 day of use.

based on what i've seen yesterday in using the o3d almost continuously all day (new toy syndrome) the battery life is amazing as long as you can keep yourself out of 3d mode. anything that uses the parallax function eats the battery bigtime and this doesnt surprise me. that said, last night i flimed nearly an hour's worth of footage of a band in 3d starting from about 43% charge before the camera told me "the battery is not enough for the camera". it looks like the battery will last quite a while if you can resist playng with it all day.

the one thing that is definitely a dissapointment with the o3d is the led flash. it's weak as hell and doesn't even go off in 3d mode at all.

i'm absolutely happy with my choice and would go the same route again though. excited for CM7.1.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Its a tough choice for sure I have no regrets getting mine, the 3DS's 3D is nothing like on this phone, it doesn't look anyway as good and you certainly won't be getting 720p in 3D.
[LG Optimus 3D] hefonthefjords:
yeah i showed the 3d to a few friends last night who are big ds fans and they all said that the 3d on the optimus kicked the utter **** out of the 3ds.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Thanks..

I practically get an instant lock-on with my GPS indoors and outside with my GS2, and as for wifi, even on 1 bar in my back garden I get the same speeds as indoors near the router (about 15mb down and 3mb up on a 30 mb connection). I think the wifi bars on the GS2 are inaccurate more than anything else.

My phone signal wavers quite a lot on my GS2 which I notice indoors when making or receiving a call and can cause voices to break up.

The most important things for me is battery life compared to the GS2 and Heat problems. Also Signal strength :)

I love the smoothness of menus and the screen on my GS2 and the fact that I can run multiple apps without any slowdown.

I have to say the 3d is impressive on a 3DS with the slider on full. Camera's are a let down though, but games are better.

Decisions decisions.....
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
There is nothing wrong with the GS2 GPS, the LG is slightly better but there isn't much in it.

I know most of the people in here have possibly sold a GS2 and got the Optimus 3D which is fair enough but as I said above, the 3D is a gimmick as far as that the pictures/video aren't useful for other things OTHER than looking at them on the phone.

Most people like viewing them on the computer, etc, do they not?

Other than the 3D features, it has nothing really going for it. That is the absolute truth when it comes down to it. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, it's good and the 3D is impressive, but it's fundamentally flawed as a result of it.

If you could view the 3D images and video at the max. resolutions, then it would go a long way to fixing this problem. Also, the phone does experience slow down occasionally if you push it, I imagine this is due to the RAM.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
So basically your opinion is to keep the SGS2?

Thanks.
[LG Optimus 3D] altec1000:
In what way is 3D a fundamentallty flaw on the O3D?

- No other way than looking them on phone?

Never heard of 3D tv's? Yes there is a hdmi output

3D monitors/latops/tablet pc will come to the market

- Only a few games?

We are just beginning with 3D. Give it some time

- Not much movies/clips on 3D?

Thats why you can film 3D with the O3D

- No max resolution in 3D?

It is already better dan the 3DS. Next generation will have 720p with better 3D experience (new hitachi screens). Quadcores in mobile will help either.

It is just a first gen and LG did a good job within the budget and hardware possibilites. What do you expect? a full blown 3D smartphone?

Give it some time and more content and better hardware will follow.
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
Absolutely, if you have a 3D TV then that's good.

No doubt.

I agree they have done a good job. It's just that unless you have a 3D TV and really love 3D, there isn't much point in getting this phone. If you do, then it's a superb phone and will no doubt be popular.

It's just considering the current state of the market for 3D, it isn't going to suit everyone.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
So what do people think of the O3D as a 2d phone compared to the GS2?
[LG Optimus 3D] otacon888:
The stock LG launcher is slow...

Put on another launcher and it is as fast as the SGS2.

Prorgams open just as fast and games run just as fast.
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
It is simply inferior as a 2D phone. No two ways about it.

This is not a phone you should be looking at unless you love and can properly utilise 3D (by having a 3DTV for example).

You can still slow it down if lots of things are going on. Like-for-like application performance is just as fast though, certainly, as are things like scrolling etc.
[LG Optimus 3D] mad_sunday:
This device will bring 3D to the masses, its as simple as that.

Forget about the battery life and just get a spare one. I work 12 hour shifts, I use one battery untill its flat, put a spare in and re-chrage the first one in a stand alone charger. You can buy the charger and 2 spare batteries on eBay for less than £8 and they work just as good as the original battery.

Mobile phones have had many "King" devices during their short history, Motorola where the first followed by Nokia, Blackberry, the iPhone, these kings are dead, long live the new King, the Android powered LG 3D.

Pete
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Why is it useless unless you have 3D tv, we all use are phones as media devices now a days loading tv programmes, films etc why not watch them in 3D instead of plain old boring 2D.

That's the beauty of a phone its portable so we can take it anywhere and enjoy 3D viewing of a program or 2D if we so wish.

I don't notice slow down on mine only when installing apps but my GS2 did that and every other phone I have had, soon as I loaded Launcher Pro on this phone is as smooth as butter, even my mates say its the smoothest phone I have shown them, with the GPS the GS2 gave me fixes in the house of around 4-5 houses down the street this thing locks on me straight away.

When I go in the bathroom I can use wifi on this the GS2 lost it 9 out of 10 times so each phone do things better than the other, its not as if the GS2 is better at everything it clearly isn't.

Look at the browser I have text reflow on this and get no chequer boarding at all, something you get on the GS2 and no text reflo

Like I said above the GS2 can do nothing more than I can do on this just I have 3D to throw in the mix, and again today had family visitors and had 4 of them playing all the 3D content they showed no interest in any other Android phone I have owned, they all think they are second rate over Apple its nice to see people try it and think ok there is something other than Iphones, couldn't be happier personally as a complete unit phone/3D its the best Android phone on the market.

The choice is simple to the Op do you like 3D ? will you use 3D ? do you want to record and playback things in 3D ? its as simple as that, if not you should stop with your GS2, lots have sold there's and have no regrets.
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
I know you like it Jabbs, and I'm not saying people shouldn't like it. I like it, but it's not some wonder device that has no drawbacks, the 3D itself is a huge advantage and a drawback at the same time as I've explained already. I can go into more detail if you (and others) still don't understand.

3D works well but if you're breaking the details down, the GS2 has it beaten overall with more common and useful features. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
I agree with you take the 3D out and the GS2 edges it, but this also edges it on other aspects which work better namely ones I have listed above and there are threads and threads of people moaning at poor wifi and poor gps on the GS2.

Its not perfect no phone is each have good sides and bad sides I doubt there will ever be a perfect killer phone that does everything better than another, but the key features of this phone is its 3D capable screen and what it can do with it.

I wasn't impressed with the Sensation as you know but that has better features over both these phones and visa versa, it won't stop people buying the Sensation over the GS2.

As I said its as simple as this, do you like 3D or the idea of 3D on a phone if so you will love this phone, if its not that important to you then don't get one.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Your comments are really pushing me towards getting the O3D. I do love the 3D effect from what I have seen and tried. I would get great use out of the 3D mode too. I just don't want to be disappointed by it as a 'phone' compared to my GS2.

Once I have sold the GS2 and put the rest of the money towards an O3D there is no going back so I have to be 100% sure.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Why not do what I have done on a number of occasions, when i tried the Sensation out I ordered it on contract from Phones 4 U over the net, I then had 7 days to test the phone out, think I only used it for 3 days just to make sure.

I never touched the sim that came with it and was very very careful with the phone but it gave me the time to see what I thought of it and I never liked it, I phoned P4U up to send it back they sent me a bag and I posted it back to them no hassles at all. I actually got the O3D originally from CarPhone Warehouse as it was the only place that had it first, they were a bit more picky mind with usage of the phone but I found it cheaper elsewhere so took it back.

Just phone and get some advise and say you are not sure etc as you have heard the 3D side give people headaches, then they will no doubt say you have 7 days to make a decision just to cover yourself.

Its a hard choice for you I had the bonus of trying it before I sold the GS2, you will always worry if it will be the phone for you once the GS2 has gone its not as clear cut for you, i certainly don't want anyone buying a phone on my comments alone, so do have a good look around and make your decision, Robboftw I know from another forum and he is very honest with his views on phones, just with this phone he has said in another forum 3D isn't important to him so he is more judging it on a phone by phone basis of the two which you can't really do, its a shame you don't know anyone with one and borrow it for a few days.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Can you tell me what the other 'more common and useful features' you think are better on the GS2 please.

Thanks.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Great idea, but my current contract is in my relatives name as I am unable to get a contract in my name, (long story). I don't really want to ask them, because they are already doing me a favour.

Maybe I should go back into the store and play with it some more :)
[LG Optimus 3D] snowing:
I think I will disagree on this one. I own both phones. Truely from the hardware spec, GS2 has beaten O3D except for the 3D part. But then most of the useful features for GS2 comes with bugs/faults. GPS and wifi are among them.. GS2 has a 8mp camera but with a bug in the software where the center become too red. Wifi on GS2 is weak.. this is not something I made it up. Many people have the same experience. GPS is really useless in place I live. I can lock on to GPS with O3D even when I am at home in my apartment provided that I am next to the window. I can't have the GPS on GS2 to lock on even if I am outside on the street. It is still better then GS thou which I just accept the fact that the GPS is physically in the phone but can never work.

Since both phones are android phones and both are high end ones, there is really nothing that can be done on GS2 can't be done on O3D.

You might ask why I still keep both phones. I actually move up from GS. I still keep GS2 for a simple reason. The stock rom on there is just like a beta release. But the fact that there are plenty of custom roms for it actually saves it. The original GS only finally got their stock firmware correct without much bugs AFTER GS2 is out. But the custom roms done it perfectly way back in time. The light weight of GS2 is really a good deal for me as well. I would wait till GS2 comes up with a stable firmware or a stable custom rom is out, then I can pass it to my wife to replace her GS. On the other hand, O3D just work nice right out of the box. The only deal breaker is the battery. I really wish when gingerbread is out things will get better. This is something I learn from my GS. 2.2 power management and dual core support is definitely falls behind of 2.3. So once 2.3 is out for O3D, it will gain performance and better power management.

Even thou those benchmark out there doesn't mean much. It still indicates that O3D with 2.2 already out performed many other phones with 2.3. So with 2.3 on O3D, it will only perform much better. For GS2, it'll depends on other devs, how they can further tweak the performance of the kernel.

I can see more possibilities on O3D as it more aim for the edge but more popularity on GS2 since it is more aim for general public.
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
Absolutely.

The SAMOLED+ screen is overall a better screen to look at for 2D things, even though the LCD on the LG isn't bad

The battery life is considerably better on the GS2

The camera is far better and performs better in various lighting conditions, the 2D versions of the 3D pictures are even worse than the normal 5MP 2D ones

The HD video recording is better and performs better in different light, much like the camera

The phone IS faster if you're putting them both to the sword, the LG does slow down if it's installing apps and doing various things simultaneously, the GS2 doesn't

Much better ROM support for the GS2 at the moment, I'm sure the LG will get some but so far that remains to be seen

I'll say it again. The Optimus 3D is a great phone as long as you really do want 3D. It is not a phone to get if you think "Hm, well, 3D might be useful now and again but..." :)

Just make sure you want it and can live with the drawbacks it brings, that's all.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Thanks.

I did really like the screen on the O3D and it doesn't suffer from the colour banding that the GS2 suffers from, even though the samoled+ screen is lovely and vivid to look at.

Battery life is a big deal to me and this could be a problem. Someone suggested getting a spare with its own charger. Will have to think about this for a while.

Pictures and video are not so much of a problem as I mostly use them for sending to Facebook and friends phones. I suppose I should look at some sample pictures and videos to see how bad they really are compared to the GS2.

When I install apps on my GS2 I usually wait until it's installed before I do something else. Although it is nice to be able to mutlitask without the phone slowing down. Is the slowdown bad?

I only stick to stock roms through Kies on my GS2.

I really do want 3D. I would use it quite a lot on this phone for watching movies, playing games, etc. I love new technology :)

Thanks for your opinions. It has given me more to think about now. I have a tendency to jump into things too quickly.

Anymore opinions are greatly welcome :)
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
The slowdown isn't bad at all, but it is there sometimes. If you really do want 3D, then go for the Optimus 3D by all means, there isn't anything really wrong with it and the 3D is great (if not mind blowing).
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
For watching movies nothing touches it the 3D makes it a much nicer experience and the banding on the GS2 screen is a joke tbh, as I said above not everything is black and white and the GS2 has lots of issues also.

Installing apps my GS2 jerked and slowed down until it was installed as all phones I have used, I tended to let it finish then use it.

HD video there isn't a huge amount between them and once the devs get on it or LG themselves who have addressed the HD video already, am sure they will be working on the camera also, and there is a red spot/hue in the middle of the GS2's camera when using it so its not perfect by a long shot.

Can't argue on battery life but Froya was bad on battery and energy management, my big bro has a Desire HD and he said its much better since he gone on Gingerbread so things can only get better in October.

Loads of Rom support on the GS2 but it has been out for 5 months longer so I should hope so. There is plenty for the LG X2 and as they are not a million miles apart it won't take much to move over, and Cyanogen mod is already in development for it and working on a O3D.

I really can't say anything else in this thread as its just going over old ground all the time, go and play with one again and see what you think is all I can say really, in the end you have to do what is right for you.
[LG Optimus 3D] mad_sunday:
You can't compare a stock LG and a rom modified Samsung. Compare standard in both cases but even then the LG is ONLY running 2.2.
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
I have never said the GS2 is perfect, but the simple fact is that for more commonly used things, it is better. I think saying the colour banding is a joke is taking it a bit far :p

There is quite a lot between the HD video with regards to detail captured and light performance, I've looked into this properly and the LG is on v10d so it's the improved version. I've never encountered that red spot problem either.

I can't get the GS2 to jerk or slow down no matter what I try. It's the only phone I've ever seen that literally cannot be slowed down. It's quite incredible actually.

For the record, my GS2 for the comparisons is on a stock ROM.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Thanks. I guess I should go an play with one some more and check out the menu's, camera, etc...

Lots of food for thought ;)
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
The only slowdown I have experienced on my GS2 is a slight stutter when I scroll through my homepages with widgets on. I just tried downloading a couple of apps in the background and had no slowdown. I suppose Gingerbread helps :)

The samoled+ screen practically makes up for the colour banding imo, although I don't understand why there is colour banding in the first place.

I also have the pink spot on my camera which is annoying when taking pictures with white backgrounds indoors, but it does take great pics and video for a phone cam.
[LG Optimus 3D] coolfi:
Happy to have made someone smile:D but I do think that a phone should look good off as well as being on.

Thanks for comparison guys, the very conflicts you guys are having with each other are exactly am having with myself.

There are things on gs2 that are hard to imagine not having, not to mention the bootloader. However I've decided to let them send me the o3d, if it turns out to be bad than gs2 or if I don't like it then probably try to get it replaced yet again.

Does my 7 day dsr period start again or have I lost that option?
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
The bootloader is unlocked on this also but I think you make the right choice testing it because if the 3D isn't for you then there is no reason to have one.
[LG Optimus 3D] jimakos29:
Had the sgs2 and returned it (thank god ) for various reasons.

1st the phone was getting ridiculouslly hot with minimum usage (try running navigon and then you get really scared). Then the samoled was not that great as it is believed to be. Ok, really vivid colors and blacker than any black i've seen but various colors (especially grey ones) were dissapointing in low brightness. Try playing angrybirds in mid brightness and note the (supposedly) blue sky in the sgs2. You could actually see stains in those color variations. Then it burnt some pixels. That was it. It went DOA and i got the lg 3d. The phone is almost as fast as sgs2 (running 2.2 i really believe it will get a lot faster with 2.3). Battery lasts me a fair amount of time (<5-6 hours straight of angry birds,i couldn't even dream that on the sgs2). It's not about the capacity but the use it makes of it. All in all it lasts me a bit more than the sgs2. And the 3d is really cool
[LG Optimus 3D] TheOnly1:
LOL. I come from the absolute UBERPHONE of all times. In 2 years no phone could impress me at all by having a HD2 in my pocket. The SGS1 and 2 were no expections. Great devices for sure, but not impressive at all for a HD2 user. If you take a quick look at the HD2 section here you will know why :D

The O3D was the device that made me sell my HD2. And believe me it was a hard for me to sacrifice things like Windows Phone 7/Android dual boot and the by far the best support for any phone of all times.

The SGS2 is fast. OK but speed is not everything. It simply lacks a killer feature for me. The O3D is also fast but has the killer feature :)
[LG Optimus 3D] snowing:
Very true. 3D experience is not for everyone.. at least not at this stage. some like it some don't. really have to try first before decide.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Well I bit the bullet, sold my GS2 and purchased an O3D sim free from Carphone Warehouse.

Sat in the car took the sticker off the screen and hey presto there was a blob of dust under the screen :(. Took it back to the store, but they had no more left so drove to another store about 20 mins away and they only 1 model left which had 2 specs of dust under the screen in the middle :(

I have 1 more store to try that have 2 left. If they both have any dust under the screen I will be getting a refund.

I know I may be in a minority when it comes to dust, but I really notice it outside and am not willing to pay out that sort of money for something that I consider a defect unfortunately.

I'm really hoping for a dust free model tomorrow as I love the phone :)

Atm, I have my sim in a crappy old Nokia lol.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Still think you should have tried one out a bit more before you made a big decision like this, I pray you don't live to regret it.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Thanks, but I have played with it quite a few times and also tried out the 2d side of things today so am 100% sure :)

Just hope I find a dust free one tomorrow or I will be waiting for the iPhone 5.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Or the new Nexus model out nearer the end of the year though, its rumoured to have a 1280x720 resolution screen but 4.5" which I think is a tad big..
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Sounds nice, but I wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inches, unless they can keep the phone size the same.

I also couldn't wait that long lol
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Same as me I am very impatient with things like this.
[LG Optimus 3D] simacca:
Are you still happy with the O3d over the GS2 after using it for a while?

Thanks.
[LG Optimus 3D] Robboftw:
I'm waiting for the iPhone 5 too by the way, and using my iPhone 4 at the minute.

Android apps just haven't caught up and I'm past caring about widgets, most of them are a farce and don't really save any time or look particularly nice, and the other benefits of Android don't really apply to me.