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[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
ur DZ doesn't get the same as our T-Mobile G2's.... u get sense, we get vanilla Android. Also, it is 150% NOT location related. Ur phone prob erased the update bcuz they r stored on the cache partition. It uses cache a lot, probably needed the space.
[G2 and Desire Z General] clintz:
I've kept my G2 totally stock, just did a CHECKIN and still nothing... uggg
[G2 and Desire Z General] GinoAMelone:
I'm thinking the different country, and probably different carrier is the relevant fact.
[G2 and Desire Z General] starfcker69:
When checking for updates [ go to dialer and dial *#*#CHECKIN#*#* ], theoretically, how much sooner will you be able to grab the update? Is it a day, 4 hours, 1 hour? Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] shabgard:
Damn it I was gonna go sit outside his house. Haha
[G2 and Desire Z General] kpetrie77:
I'll be flying TX to CA tonight, taking off in a few minutes. WiFi flight so should get the notification as I pass over his house right? ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
Wow there doing a piss poor job getting this dam ota out.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
I'm kinda thinkin the same thing, but at least I have my Xoom and this beautiful Pittsburgh evening to enjoy on my front porch.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
I'm in pittsburgh too! Beautiful might be an overstatement tho. Humid and muggy seems more fitting to me :)

What are they doing updating one device at a time? We sent a man to the moon 4 decades ago, we have all this crazy technology in our life, and they can't send out a fricken update in a timely fashion? Yes I know they can't send it all out at once and crash the servers, but there is not THAT many g2's. And most people don't even know or care what an update is and just ignore it. COME ON TMOBILE LET'S GO.
[G2 and Desire Z General] alforque:
"checkin succeeded" okay...

"Updates available" EEEE! /me screaming like a girl

"Gmail successfully updated." the hell?! /me raises fist to the sky
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
LOL
[G2 and Desire Z General] lozzd:
Noob question, (might as well discuss something whilst we're all waiting...) how does the OTA update actually work?

I bought my G2 in the US and brought it back to use here with my UK SIM card, will it still get the update?

Does it just ping some HTTP every now and then and it either says yay or nay?

Also: To the people saying just roll it out now, it's not slow for technology reasons, it's slow beacuse, think about it: If they roll it out to 100% of people, tens of thousands of G2s, they're bound to find a bug they didn't find during testing. Now what if that bug bricked half the phones? Now they have to replace a lot of phones. So doing it slowly means, IF there is a bug like that, people will start calling in and they can stop the OTA. This has actually happened to some OTA updates in the past. (see: Windows Phone 7)
[G2 and Desire Z General] lawalty:
Okay, I just did the *#*#checkin#*#* and it gave me a checking success.. so now what? I tapped on it in my notification bar then it disappeared. What do I do now? Do I do it again?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jorenko:
1. *#*#CHECKIN#*#*

2. Go to Settings / About Phone / System Updates.

3. It'll tell you you're up to date already.

4. impatient_insanity_countdown--

5. GOTO 1
[G2 and Desire Z General] [hfm]:
Not really, it's always been over the course of a few weeks. Never been any different.

I usually just wait until someone knowledgeable has the generosity to post the url for us do we can do it manually.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
I have had at least 15 different android phones and anytime an OTA comes out, the rom is on the forum within hours. They are really not sending out to barely anyone otherwise we would have at least screenshots of it by now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kilroy672:
Now I'm getting ticked off. My wife called me and said she got a update for her phone (mytouch 4g). I told her I'm jealous. I want my update. After I told her where to look for what version is it...she said...2.3.4. How does the mytouch 4g get 2.3.4 and we get 2.3.3? I do believe that the G2 came out before the Mytouch 4g, unless I'm wrong. Tapping fingers...still waiting...
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
Whoa whoa whoa, settle down a second LOL. It's been reported in the past few days that the G2 will be getting 2.3.4, not 2.3.3. I myself wondered why, however, as 2.3.4 on the Nexus S simply brought GTalk Video chat... which doesn't make sense on the G2. But I also saw mention that there's a fix for Facebook contact syncing in 2.3.4. 2.3.5 is the newest build, though, but it's just for the Nexus S 4G on Sprint, to fix WiMAX/Wifi connection issues.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
BTW, totally have to admit that the weather was really humid last night, and is again today *ICK!* Mon Valley has high pollutants, so it's nasty outside... But last night was a nice cool-down.

On the note of "not THAT many G2's" I can tell you, my friend in Mt Washington has one, my friend in Moon Twp. has one, and I know at least 4 other people that have G2's. It HAS to have been a popular device. Not saying that is any excuse for this update process to take this long. From my understanding it's to make sure that if any devices become bricks, they can halt the process immediately. So far, no bricks... but then again, at the same time, so far no successful updates either. I may have to be doing the checkin every 5 seconds with logcat running to try to get it faster so I can post the link lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kilroy672:
Does anyonw know if this update is downloaded to the sdcard? Becuase I got a replacement G2 the other day. If the updates goes by IMEI number I just wonder if I will get the update on the returning phone before I have to sent it back, download the update to the sdcard, then update to the new phone. Or does it work that way? Always a worth a try. If not I may have to wait until Aug 5th and go in to my local t-mobile store and see if they can update from there.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
Absolutely not. All OTA updates via the standard update mechanism are stored in the cache partition. Also, the updates will download over Wifi with no SIM card in (had that happen more times than i care to count on my G1, MyTouch 3G, and numerous G2's that I had done the PC10IMG to, and they immediately started downloading the 1.22 OTA over Wifi while I had my SIM in my HD7).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kilroy672:
So it sounds like in less I'm worng, these updates can and are will be download via wifi? Does that mean that I have to have my wifi on all the time to receive the updates? Or just when I want to check? Just sayin...
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
No no, they aren't ONLY downloaded via wifi, they just WILL download via Wifi when available. It will download over Data networks too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jouva:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but usually don't we try to find the URL for the update? I mean it's been a while since I've been on the forums but I recall updates on my G1 back in the day where people would post URLs to where the update was posted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
That's what I meant by using LogCat, because the URL shows up in LogCat when the update downloads. However, it's hard to do that when we aren't getting the update, OR the people who ARE getting the update aren't checking using LogCat, which is why we don't have the link yet.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jouva:
Right, though I've seen very little to no requests for the URL thus far, so that's why I asked.

Also, related: I saw that T-Mo said something along the lines of "you might lose your data" when it comes to updating via the SD card in store as opposed to getting the update OTA. Is this because the employees might choose wipe before the update, or is this because applying the update any way other than via normal OTA methods might erase data?

I'm just concerned that getting the URL and applying the update manually might do the same.
[G2 and Desire Z General] erasable:
Do just have to have log cat running in the background? Or is there some specific procedure for capturing the url? Sorry for the noob question?
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
I believe that's just a standard disclaimer, and depending on how the update process goes on individual phones, information MAY be lost. Example: say the update.zip method, through recovery (assuming that's the method the stores use, since it IS preferred) fails, they would probably fall back to the PC10IMG.zip through HBOOT, assumably. In which case, absolutely everything would be lost that isn't stored in the cloud, on SD, or in a backup thru Titanium, MyBackup Pro, Sprite, etc etc. So just be wary of that possibility.

Logcat is something that can be run using ADB, actually. It's built into the Android OS. adb logcat will always show the logcat on your computer's terminal/command prompt screen. Most people wouldn't want to run tethered to their computer just to try and catch this update. So instead, there's an app or two on the market that are designed to collect the log on your SD card, and/or email it to you whenever you want a copy of the log. For instance, it's useful for boot-loops, debugging applications, or in this circumstance, catching the url of an OTA update. Soon as the notification pops up, the device has ALREADY downloaded the update to your cache partition, so you're technically too late to get the URL, unless u had one of those apps off the Market that keeps a running tally. Usually they follow the standard logcat "rules", after X amount of kilobytes of log size, it begins to erase older entries, which is why it's very important to drop what you're doing on your phone and quickly dump the log to get the OTA URL.
[G2 and Desire Z General] erasable:
Ok, Im running the alogcat app.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
You, sir, are doing the community a wonderful service =) I'm sure that if you get the OTA, the XDA members will be VERY happy LOL (myself included)
[G2 and Desire Z General] atlp99:
I am assuming that the SD cards retail stores are getting are going to use the pc10img method because of the instructions provided to reps. The notification sent to stores stated that all phone information WILL (not might be)be erased but I have not seen final step by step instructions and have not gotten the SD cards yet. I'll post the contents when we do.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Bishybob:
Don't get too excited guys. The update isn't a big deal. I got mine on day 2. There is hardly any noticable difference. Just some subtle interface changes.

Battery life is slightly worse though not too noticable.

Signal seems about the same but I didn't have any issues before. EDGE does work better now though. I can actually use data on EDGE.

Swype seems to be a little messed up. You can't double tap a word any more to bring up word selection window. Very annoying. I think it has something to do with the little word selection bars that show up which are basically useless on the G2 since it has trackpad.

It does boot up much faster and seems to be more stable.

More of a bug/stability update than a feature update.

One weird thing was my network switched to GSM after the update and I had to switch back to WCDMA Preferred.

Lost no information and update was very fast.

PS

Party in my front yard until everyone gets their update!
[G2 and Desire Z General] erasable:
I'm on the leaked 2.3 and my network was changed too. Also, what are the release keys for the ota?
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
I'm on the modified/fixed leaked version, and I have been enjoying it since may. However, it has some issues here n there, just related to text threads not deleting properly n'at. But I'm looking forward to it because it's official. Stability and speed will be much better. And I prefer GB over Froyo because of the text selection bars. The track pad hasn't been the fastest method to move around text editing fields. Oh, and might I add, having an Android tablet, you kinda get spoiled with the same features that you get in Gingerbread for text editing, and I love them... I want them to remain on my phone, thank you very much. The other big thing is major improvements to Wifi-calling, and the addition of a built-in SIP client (though T-Mobile restricts that to wifi use only. Works great when ur bill gets suspended for non-payment during hard times between paychecks :-X overall, I've gotten better battery life on GB than I did on Froyo, too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jouva:
TBH I noticed SMS deleting issues even in 2.2. Plenty of them. I'm afraid to delete any now since I end up seeing a bum entry at the bottom dated at *NIX epoch and with nothing interesting in it and it won't go away
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
Same issue I've had. I just backup my texts with MyBackup Pro (used it for years, first paid Market purchase I made Feb 2009, and never had a reason to not like it), then I delete all threads, reboot, and restore my texts. Removes the phantom "Epoch texts"
[G2 and Desire Z General] alexterz:
What do you mean by "Your phone erased the update" ?

In Italy it said "update available" now it doesn't. I never downloaded it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] erasable:
I'm pretty sure the update downloads automatically. You can choose to install it or not.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
Ugh this OTA(rollout) is a disgrace! Don't care what no one says! Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it was just a forum post that claimed the ota was out right? No official press release or anything?
[G2 and Desire Z General] erasable:
I can't believe not one screenshot or download link or even a build number.
[G2 and Desire Z General] alexterz:
I'm shure it did not, because it asked if he should download the update, and that I should

do it using wlan because the has XXX MB.
[G2 and Desire Z General] [hfm]:
No, there was something mostly official on support forums.

https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-document?content=/api/core/v1/documents/1809
[G2 and Desire Z General] kingston73:
I don't understand why people don't look at tmobile's site first instead of starting conspiracy theory's about how this isn't an actual update. From Tmobile:

http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/t-mobile_g2?view=documents

It even states it will be rolled out over the next few WEEKS, and it's now been what, a few days now?
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
And there is what, thousands of ppl on xda from all over the world? So stastically at least one person in the past 4 days would have got it and posted about it? Like I said before, this is probably my fifteenth android phone, and when an ota REALLY starts, its on here in hours. Yes its rolled out over weeks, but its not like they send it to 3 people a day. Thousands of people are getting it a day. Right now NO ONE is getting it. Face it. There a few people here and there in comment sections on the internet that have claimed to have gotten it, but none can post a build number or a screenshot.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kingston73:
Build 2.15.531.3, at least according to this thread:

http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/2634?tstart=0
[G2 and Desire Z General] zaxos:
checkin questions

I too tried the the "checkin" in the dialer and received a "sucessful" notification, but nothing happened when I tried checking system updates. I had never heard of checkin before hand so I was wondering if you guys could answer some questions. 1. If I checkin do I still receive the update normally?(OTA) 2. Are there any consequences to doing it? Or is it just a way to speed up the process? Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] zkid2010:
I was expecting some T-Mobile rep to copy what most likely is a PC10IMG file off of the sdcard they were supposed to have in-stores starting yesterday (Saturday the 30th) and post it up here.

I don't believe anything has gone OTA like you I think. There would be screens and some versions but there's been nothing.

Just odd that nobody has floated any of the in-store update zips yet...:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] xsteven77x:
They did say they were gonna put THEIR sd card in and flash it then put your own back into the phone. I think that's why no one has hijacked it out of there yet :( there was a dude in the beginning of this thread who said they were going to go into work and get it but we have yet to hear from him :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] carquote:
This is the info from the T-mobile website regarding the update: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1809

The in-store flashing will be done starting August 5th which is this upcoming Friday. My guess is the stores have yet to receive the SD cards that contain the update and this is why we have not heard anything from the T-mobile employee and the file has not been leaked.
[G2 and Desire Z General] theebest:
Lol so my gf did get but it wont install o.O sshes on stock ROM rooted and S-off with cw but evrytime she tries to install the update it starts then it goes the screen with the triangle and stays there

Oh and anything I can do to upload the update?

Edit: alright now the update won't show now after the failed update >.< I already tried the checking on the dialer.. where is the update stored on the phone or the SD card?
[G2 and Desire Z General] atlp99:
I am the dude who said I would post the update from the SD card. My store has not received the SD cards yet, as of 7/31. I assume they will come in any day now, since they are supposed to be available to flash customer's phones on 8/5.

I assume that it will be a pc10.img, the install instructions are the same as flashing any pc10.img, boot to the bootloader, phone will install new software, etc.

P.S. anyone who wants to upload / host the files feel free to pm me and I'll shoot them to you.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hogg2500:
I have read people saying that if you run logcat, that will give you the direct link to the update itself. Prehaps you could run logcat and get us the direct link?
[G2 and Desire Z General] thekylebrody:
My girlfriends G2 is on Stock 2.2 build and has yet to recieve the GB System update that was released days ago?

Any thoughts?
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
Here's the issue, CWM and S-Off. If using the ENG HBOOT, that definitely is a problem, but CWM is the other big issue. It's not the stock recovery, so it doesn't have the release keys. The OTA is signed with different keys. So it won't install. However, I'd get aLogCat off the market to catch the download URL. And u can use a file explorer with root access like ES File Manager to check the /cache partition for the ZIP file's name, and copy it to ur SD card.
[G2 and Desire Z General] awake00:
Yea do that please.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kilroy672:
What exactly is aLogCat? I downloaded it from the market. Not sure what it does or how it works. How would I find the downloaded url? Running it now and can't seem to find any url's.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
Your phone periodically "checks in" to the mothership for updates. All this does is manually check right now. No consequences.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
No no, u keep it on there UNTIL u get the notification that a system update is available. THEN you open it and, well, I've never used or seen it myself, but im sure there's a way to look at the log and you will find the OTA server and file name in it. Or just grab the whole log n post it, I'm sure someone here would find it. But just know now, you MUST have installed it before your phone gets the update notification. Cuz like I said earlier in this thread, you get the notification AFTER the update has already downloaded from Google and it waits in your phone's cache partition. So the actual log entry of your phone receiving the notification that an update is available, will be a little bit prior to when u get the notification.

Since checkin is something our phones do normally on their own schedule (not sure of the specifics, I imagine its probably every 6-12 hours or something), forcing it to check in means nothing specific, really. It's good to have a successful checkin, but the response from the check in, we never see. For example, we check in, the phone says successful. That means it received a reply from the server. Then the check in server begins to decide if it's time to share the update or not. If not, it tells the phone"nothing to see here, move on" and the phone waits for the next scheduled check in. So even T-Mobile G1's with no update in the foreseeable future, are still checking in with the check in server at least once a day, if not just once a week. So, after putting aLogCat on your phone, run a few *#*#CHECKIN#*#* attempts, especially on wifi if you want to have a quick way to find out if the update is downloading. You should be able to find the checkins and server responses in the log. But until u see "Downloading update" like in the earlier screenshot, then you aren't getting tthe update yet. and if you DO get that screen, by all means, snatch the logcat output ASAP so we can see the URL.
[G2 and Desire Z General] theonedd:
so we have to unroot

Are you saying we can't be rooted in order to receive the OTA Official 2.3.3 update from tmobile? I have CWM 2.5, S-off, stock post OTA Rom running. My phone is rooted but I have everything official running.
[G2 and Desire Z General] flamingblue8z:
S-Off may become S-On or a FALSE S-Off, depending on whether u used gfree to get Radio S-Off, or are using the 0.76 ENG HBOOT. Shipping HBOOT, 0.80, can be made radio S-Off using gfree, but depending on how this update deals with the HBOOT, it may re-lock the phone, even though it would still display S-Off. As for CWM, it isn't the stock recovery. So when the update comes in, it will put a script into the /cache/recovery directory, which gives directions to the recovery mode of what it is supposed to do. It's the way that the phone "automatically" updates itself when it reboots into recovery. The reason you don't have to select "update.zip" is because the script is already telling the recovery mode to do that for you. Therefore, since CWM is a modified recovery, it may READ that script, but it may not know what to DO with that script. One of the main reasons is that the update is signed with a production key, which only the stock recovery can flash. CWM has a way to over ride that MANUALLY, i believe, but you have to get the actual update.zip off of the cache partition to do that, or download it manually yourself. However, again, it will most likely cause you to lose root access in Android itself. The update may also cause your bootloader to be replaced, which if you were using the ENG bootloader, you will be stuck with a new one, that can't be downgraded, and can't be given the command to "fastboot flash". So, if you want to keep root, wait til someone else gets ahold of this update's file and dissects it. Because the other thing that absolutely will happen with the update, is the Recovery partition will be flashed, I almost guarantee it. So there goes CWM, and also all root access. Think hard about that, because so far the only way to re-gain root is to downgrade, which in and of itself is more complicated with the latest update. You have to use the new tool that temp-roots the Sensation just to get the ability to edit the MISC partition, which is the partition that tells the HBOOT what version of software is already on the phone, thereby preventing a PC10IMG version of 1.19 being loaded onto the phone, unless the MISC partition is edited to show version 1.19 as already being installed. It's really complicated, I know, but I fully understand it. If I didn't explain it well enough, please someone simplify it further.

On an aside, I have no degree in computer engineering, nor knowledge outside of what I've learned on here over the years, so I promise, my understanding has come from lots of trial/error, and input from other intelligent people on this forum. Therefore, i can't guarantee everything is 100% correct, but I have a 99.9999% trust that this is the correct information.