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[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
i think it's hilarious that sprint charges a premium data fee when they are almost dead last in "3g" performance (last when compared to the big 4), are at the bottom end with "4g" performance, and are the slowest to expand "4g" coverage.

just call it a data fee or unlimited fee, premium data is just a joke.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I think its hilarious that people are willing to pay those outrageous tiered pricings that Verizon has offered to have "ridiculous speeds" for a GB or two.

P.S. The test your quoting is an average of all areas... Plenty of people on here get 2mbit/s on 3g and over 10mbit/s on wimax.
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
huh? if the average is 700 kbps, plenty of people getting 2 mbps is actually not plenty at all.

and new customers get raped at verizon and att. the millions upon millions of existing users are already grandfathered into unlimited plans. ever thought of that?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Educate yourself on the Sprint issue if you're going to talk about it, seriously.

There are some major cities that have data issues due to being over capacity.

In those areas data speeds can be pitiful, less than 100k/s.

(I know, I live in one of those areas)

However, in a lot of places (hey, like Ann arbor Michigan, the next major city over) speeds are 2mbit/s.

Now, do you understand how if a few major cities have really pathetic speeds it can ruin the total average?

Or is that at least understood?

Random example(just using random cities): If New York and Detroit have 70kb/s speeds but San Francisco and Seattle have 2mbit/s speeds, what's the average?

And then you run into other issues.

How are you taking that average? Are you literally taking an average for each city and then dividing them together?

How do you know how many Sprint subscribers are in each city?

Numbers lie all the time and they can be deluded to any degree.

And your grandfathering comment is irrelevant to now or anytime in the future.

Yes, for At&t, that would work for customers from 2007(?) And before.

And yes, IF you were with Verizon prior to their new tiering you were only subject to throttling after a certain amount of usage....point?

Excessively fast speeds with a 1 or 2GB usage cap is like having a Ferrari but only being allowed to use it for 20 miles a month.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Look at the results instead of making more assumptions...

Averages

ATL = .4 mbps

boston = .58 mbps

charlotte = .4 mbps

dallas = .4 mbps

detriot = .3 mbps

jacksonville = .5 mbps

kansas city = .36 mbps

vegas = .43 mbps

la = .34 mbps

mia = .38 mbps

nashville = .5 mbps

nyc = .36 mbps

ok city = .59mbps

philly = .49mbps

phoenix = .34 mbps

pittsburg = .88 mbps

san diego = .46mbps

SF = .41 mbps

st louis = .53 mbps

dc = .74 mbps

rural central = .56mbps

rural ne = .47 mbps

rural se = . 47mbps

rural west = .51 mbps

Holy **** that's a lot more terrible than I thought.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Anybody else love when someone posts data with no source?

I also call bull**** on all of these as I have been to each of them within the last 3 months and the data speeds were perfect.

I also call bull**** on this one because I know I never get above .2 mbps anywhere.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011

Call BS all you want. PC Mag did an impartial test. Competitors did better, Sprint did ****. What? You think you're a more reliable source than PC Mag?
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
I think ur link don't work ho
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That blue circled area is the exact route we took en-route to New York City at the end of May.

My speeds were ridiculous(fast, 2mbit/s or more) the

entire

way (until we entered the mountains in Pennsylvania where 3g doesn't exist for ANY carrier) on the route.

So again, I don't buy it.

Furthermore, no one is arguing that Sprint speeds aren't bad in some areas... that was never suggested and it's not even what this topic is about. (I don't think the OP ever did make it clear what his ***** is)
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Also major cities won't have good speeds for 1 its network overload VZW isn't much better for a extra hundred a month and 2 we are talking about Sprint a smaller company and the only other major cdma so they are a few points of a mb slower don't like it gtfo and stfu this speed **** is annoying get cable internet and be done w it I have good Sprint speeds but its a Damn phone and doesn't need to be fast
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Well you think wrong. I suggest that you don't user your Sprint phone to view the link, you may be experiencing Sprint's "premium" data network.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I live in NYC, you visited for a short period of time. Sprint is ****e in NYC.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Seriously, shut the hell up.

It opened just fine on my phone and I'm mobile getting less than 200kb/s.

You really need this link.

YESSSSSSS

I LOVE

when people prove they don't even read what's said and just reply based on emotion/username.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
No op was saying they are expensive and *****ing cause he could root his phone to get free tethering aka steal and he phone isn't customizable I didn't know tmo phones where rootable and had he looked he would see there is **** spanked without root I know tommy has a thread or two In the dev
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Tried the link 3 times twice from xda other from Google search lol still doesn't work
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Matty just give up. You don't bring any legitimate facts or sources to a argument. It's always the same personal opinions and experiences. Your posts never hold any weight.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You

prove

you don't even read before replying and then you're gonna make a comment like that?

I searched your name on the internet and found the perfect picture for you:
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
And urs do how this is the second thread uv trolled in that iv seen/care to remember and 21 cities mean Jack and so keep showing off your e penis cause I'm sure your real one is tiny anyways I'm don't good day and stop being a *****
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
When is xda going to install a block feature
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
You know mattykinsx is proven wrong when he starts throwing in stupid pictures and starts using big fonts.

By the way, I already have a iPhone 4 on my grandfathered unlimited HSPA+ powered AT&T account that still has a old 25% corporate discount applied.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Why the tantrum? Are you mad?
[EVO 4G General] Braneless:
Hey, asshole, do you know anything about Sero? I was forced to pay $10/mo over and above F&F500 Sero in order to gain access to 4g and Android phones. If I stuck with non-Premium Sero, my plan would remain at $35. **** you and have a great day.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Right. I rarely ever post pictures and my "fonts" are proving a point.

You flat out, obviously, did not even read what was said and yet replied to it.

This is the umpteenth time I've seen that behavior from you too.

Don't worry, I hear in the Verizon iPhone forums they welcome people that do not read but reply all the time.

Sucks that you're paying more but that's not for 4g. Read your contract.
[EVO 4G General] Braneless:
SERO is $30/mo with unlimited 3g and $50/mo for SERO Premium...the only way to use 4g and an Android or WM7 phone.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I did read what you said. You said you drove up to NYC and experienced ridiculously fast speeds the entire way. I replied to that. I suggest that you take a deep breath and realize that it's stupid to pop a vein over being wrong on a internet forum.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
For those that are apparently slow, like you, let's review.

I spoke of my experience on the way to NYC.

Specifically between Michigan and the Pennsylvania border...

Your response:

Oh, cool.

And if I said anything about speeds for NYC, that might apply.

If you're not gonna read, at least own up to it when you're caught.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Entire way would imply NYC too.
[EVO 4G General] ejaye:
Biggest whining FEMALE DOG. If you signed to pay 260 a month for 2 phones you are dumb ass. Look at how much it is for 2 phones cause it obviously does not say 260.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I also like how your diverting away from the fact that a reputable source found your personal findings to be inaccurate. Why should anyone believe you? Do you have any documentation? Or should we all just believe a random Sprint fanboy?
[EVO 4G General] tkirton:
Actually, you aren't paying for 4G anymore with the $10/mo (I have a Hero and an Evo and have to pay $10 each). You're paying for an uncapped 3G.

Still sucks no matter how you look at it.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
So would you please explain why unlimited data is part of the $69.99 everything data plan?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Do you know what the word hypocrite is because you seem to be one...

You accuse me of diverting from the point?

No that's you. You were just proven to not read before posting and yet you're trying to redirect.

You want data? There have been many forum members to post their data speeds in the cities listed with results in the mid to upper 1 mbit range.

What of them?

Its must be a lie, it must be "fan boys". :rolleyes:

Final point:

This whole discussion which started with your quote of speeds wasn't even the topic of discussion.

Who's redirecting here again?

That's what I thought.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I originally replied to you. Explain that.
[EVO 4G General] Waffles And Syrup:
This sounds like a bunch of 3-year olds arguing. I'm pretty sure there are at least 4 different conversations going on at once. Actually, 5, now that I commented on the fact that this thread is now worthless.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
What was being discussed?

The fact that in some cities data speeds are crap and in others they are great.

Having fast speeds but a small cap ...and that being pointless...was also being discussed.

But, as usual, you come trotting in here from the Nexus forum (I feel bad for them) and try to turn it into a Sprint vs. the world argument.

You win.

You won.

Apple is the best.

Sprint customers are suckers and your I.Q. is 500.

Now return yee beast to thine cave which thoust came.

Please.
[EVO 4G General] JBO1018:
I have no desire to join this argument. But I saw some what we will call misunderstood information. Verizons new plans do suck and I feel bad for people who get stuck with them. That being said verizon doesn't throttle based on a set amount of data like TMO does. They throttle the top 5% of data users after a certain pont in the billing cycle. So far I have not seen anyone with an LTE phone report being throttled, but that will definitely change once more people are using LTE.

That is all. Thanks lol.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
If you would have kept quiet instead of randomly spewing imaginary self made assumptions like how its all an average of 70kbps and 2 mbps, I wouldnt have called you out. But no, you do what you always do - talk out of your ass.
[EVO 4G General] tkirton:
I don't know...I just know what I'm paying and what I read.

When I first activated my Hero, there was no $10/mo Premium Data. Then when I activated my Evo (which deactivated the Hero), there was $10/mo. I thought it was for 4G. I activated a Palm Pre on another line and wasn't charged the $10/mo.

When my granddaughter dunked the Palm Pre in water, I reactivated my Hero on the second line. I was charged $10/mo for the Hero.

Did some reading and discovered it's now for uncapped 3G.

It could be wrong, but it isn't for 4G (otherwise, why would I be charged on the Hero which will never achieve 4G?)
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Don't you have some posts in the Nexus forum to not read but reply to?
[EVO 4G General] aph:
Unthrottled 3G does not require premium data.

It's on a per-phone basis, more of a "new phone" surcharge.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sprint did it like that in order to not violate the contract on their end.
[EVO 4G General] nocturnalmike:
I just left Tmo for sprint. Had a Galaxy S 4g and now have the Evo4g. Yeah HTC messed up and locked the bootloaders but who cares. people will find ways around that. On Tmo i was paying 80 a month and having my data capped at 2gb down to 2g speeds. Paying the same with sprint and i think its worth the wait even though their data speeds in my area are a joke. I was getting 6.5-7mbps with Tmo's 4g and sprint im barely tapping out at 1.8mbps. ill give sprint the 30 days to see if they are worth it, but it already looks like they are.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Isn't the whole 10 extra due to txt messages since smart phone messages use more data then dumb phones and almost all phones are smart phones that was my understanding FYI just looked n if u get a dumb phone they don't have the 10$ add on FYI
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Bull****. You cannot get the same plan features on T-Mobile as you can Sprint for cheaper. You can get less features but not equal.

I have 4 EVOs and 1 dumbphone on my account and pay 240 a month.

tethering on T-Mobile is no longer free. Good luck.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Now this made me laugh. Look at your plan before calling out random numbers. Two smart phones on sprint with tethering costs 180. Add a third line its 210. Find me a cheaper family plan, I dare ya.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Let's take a look at how many carriers don't have an extra fee and still provide unlimited data... It's okay, I'll wait.

The $10 pays to keep the data unlimited while allowing for network expansion since nobody is going to be charged overages, amongst a ton more things that the fee pays for.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
But no one even needs unlimited data, just ask Award Tour.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Same song.... We know how he feels
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
lmao nice one from you and matty
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Not even sure if that's sarcasm or not... Either way I guess I'll throw in a :) for good measures.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
it wasnt it made me laugh :)
[EVO 4G General] Evo4eva:
I see what you did hear and I LOLD hard :D
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
So where exactly on my contract or bill does it say that? Oh it doesn't? Sprint calls it a Premiuim fee which is insulting since they clearly have the slowest network.

At one point it was almost given that it was a 4G fee, now though, its just a way to save face. They want to continue looking as though the everything data plan is $70 but in reality its $80. So I do agree that its probably a fee to help keep their failing network in check but its stupid for them to call it a premium data fee.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Average smart phone user uses less than 500mb/month - nielson June 2011.

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire...data-usage-up-89-as-cost-per-mb-goes-down-46/

That sounds better than:

Every one needs unlimited data - assumptions from a clueless internet poster.

By the way, I never said no one, just most.
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
What I want to see:

World Peace.

Unlimited Data for everyone in the world.

Matty and Award in a boxing ring.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
OK, so find me one contract that explains in detail what collected fees go towards... It's okay, I'll wait.

Oh and all their commercials clearly state "starting at $79.99".
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Just look at that, data usage up 89%... Where do you think data usage will be in a year or two? People may no use unlimited now but that's like saying home connections shouldn't have been unlimited either back in 1990 because people didn't use it. It will get to the point where 2GB will be nothing for even the lowest users to reach. You think companies put high enough caps to NOT get paid? It's the opposite, they put just in reach where overages are extremely easy to reach if you don't pay attention. We both know what happened during the texting craze and that's a billion times easier to control and count than data.
[EVO 4G General] proalsren:
Is the Sanyo Incognito a dumb or smart phone?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't doubt it will rise. A past study predicted that it would rise to something like 1.5 mbps by 2015 but I'm not 100% sure of the exact number but its in the ballpark of 1-2 gbs. That said, 2-5gb @ the higher speeds of the competition is a better experience for the average consumer. Plus the cost for individual plans are similar or cheaper.
[EVO 4G General] hobo2424:
hey HotShot no one said you had to use sprint! so just quit the bickering. fighting over the internet just makes you look like a retard! Its like the special Olympics at the end of the day your still a retard.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
And we all know how studies work.

Like how they predicted Android would take off to the ridiculous degree it did....:rolleyes:

(Fill in a thousand other examples because I just woke up but we all know there are plenty)

Predictions of future occurrences are rarely accurate.

If they were more people would be winning the lottery.
[EVO 4G General] hobo2424:
id say dumb phone. yes it runs android but just barely and there is very little customization for it. its just like the huawei ascend from Cricket.
[EVO 4G General] CDKJudoka:
For the record, I have 4 phones on Sprint, 2 Android and a Crackberry, and an internet enabled dumbphone, and I pay 176 a month, total! That is without tethering, because I don't use it, but it includes the $10 a month premium data charge on my Androids.

Sprint may not be the best, but I have no complaints and t-mobile BLOWS!!
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I say they will rise at a much higher degree simply due to Apps such as wikitude drive. Apps are becoming way more data intensive not including the ability for online gaming now especially feint games.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
*coughs* Movie/TV streaming via Netflix, Hulu+, Xfinity, At&T, etc *coughs*

Sorry but you'd have to have a really thick head to think that data usage isn't exploding at a ridiculous rate.

"The earth is flat damn you!"
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Cisco (Feb 2011):

Who's more likely to be right? A random opinion/assumption from a usually clueless internet poster or Cisco? Hmmm?

Edit: I also find it funny that you mentioned the earth being flat... back then they just assumed it was, it wasn't until someone decided to objectively analyze/study the earth that they found that to be untrue. Irony.
[EVO 4G General] hobo2424:
And tell me how this relates to the OP? I don't know why your flaming everyone. If you hate sprint sooo much, switch.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Look, I respect Cisco, I really do.

But just because I respect them doesn't mean they are always right.

The Netflix app has been downloaded well over a million times.

(The market only will say 1 million+)

And it's only available on a few phones.

Hulu plus has been downloaded over 100,000+ times.

It's brand new to the market and, like Netflix, is only available for a few phones.

Both Xfinity TV and Xfinity Mobile...which are rather new themselves...have been downloaded over 500,000+ times

At&t Uverse has been downloaded over 100,000+ times and is also a newer app.

No one can predict the future.

They can make guesses, and sometimes they are generally accurate...most times they are absolutely wrong.

Even Sprint's estimates were wrong and that's why their rushing to get their network capacity caught up to the demand.

You don't get to use predictions as fact

Also, the earth being flat joke was just a joke. Relax, guy.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Wait so now you think your more insightful than Cisco? You don't think they considered that?

"Two-thirds of the world's mobile data traffic will be video by 2015. Mobile video will more than double every year between 2010 and 2015. Mobile video has the highest growth rate of any application category measured within the Cisco VNI forecast at this time."
[EVO 4G General] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
hey op.....go get a diaper change and a new pacifier u big baby!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I was watching the news the about two weeks ago and the weatherman was positive that it wouldn't rain the next day and it would rain around evening time the day after.

Of course it rained the day he said it wouldn't and was a perfect day the day he said it would rain.

True story.

This prediction is with me living in Michigan and the weather patterns being pretty obvious as they can make determinations about what's happening in say, Seattle, right now.

These predictions were 24 hours.

Cisco's are 4 plus years.

Predictions are rarely accurate.

Argue all day long, that's the reality.
[EVO 4G General] Bandage:
TBH most of those downloads were probably from me...happens when you flash 5 ROMs a day.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Worse. Comparison. Ever.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
No dude, it brings a very valid point.

We can't even predict what's going to happen in 24 hours much less 35,040.

You are just in love with taking a piece of "data" and arguing the piss out of it aren't ya?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adinis78:
Wondering if anyone is having issues with video or flash on websites. I have the latest Overcome rom (Jupiter) and i keep getting this message:

Content Unavailable

This viedeo is not authorized for playback on this device

I am also running flah 10.3

I am getting this message on my hone webpage of Espn on boyh the stock browser and dolphin browser. I have the flash to display on demand. Anyone else having issues?

Sent from HAL 9000
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rangercaptain:
The usual advice has been to uninstall flash, then go to market and get latest. If you just update, you don't really get the improvements.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aibo:
It's espn who block the access from a mobile device. It detects flash for mobile, just like hulu. You can try with the hacked flash for hulu.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adinis78:
I unistalled flash and redownloaded it (10.3version) still same issue, mow when i was with the old overcome version i didnt have this issue. Why make things so complicated for us users.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surajdvrao85:
Hello Guys,

I have updated my Samsung Galaxy I9000 to Andriod 2.3.3 through Kies 2.0. But not all features are available for Gingerbread. Also Gingerbread look is also not there. Battery is draining fast.

I want to update my Galaxy with proper gingerbread firmware and with nice theme.So please suggest me in doing this.

Thanks,

Suraj....
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr0idman:
I thought it was preloaded with 2.3.3
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surajdvrao85:
I want a custom ROm for Indian Galaxy i9000.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smiles.smiley:
Then you should search for Custom ROMs suited for your likings. Gingerbread does not change the look of TW Launcher if that is what you are looking for as most people are set up with the mindset that Gingerbread look is like what you see in Nexus S and such.

No, as long as your battery turns vertically with Green colour instead of Blue, and your notification bar has darker colours then, you are officially on Gingerbread.

About the battery drain, there's a lot of people complaining about firmwares updated from Kies.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surajdvrao85:
I search Custom ROM's. But I'm not sure which is Suitable for Indian Galaxy. So could you help me in Deciding which ROM should be used for Indian Galaxy.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smiles.smiley:
Every ROMs in GT I9000 section are suitable for Samsung Galaxy S GT i9000.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sauvik84in:
Check the following link. Detailed procedure for installation is also described there.

http://www.darkyrom.com/community/index.php?threads/odin-darkyrom-10-2-resurrection-gt-i9000.4272/