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[HD2 General] DPMAce:
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
[HD2 General] orangekid:
All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
[HD2 General] Moon2:
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
[HD2 General] orangekid:
Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.

If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
[HD2 General] pirlano:
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking :D and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems

i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs :p )
[HD2 General] evereste:
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
[HD2 General] orangekid:
I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
[HD2 General] Moon2:
Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
[HD2 General] orangekid:
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because

1) there is going to be much much more development for it.

2) qHD

3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
[HD2 General] FriedSushi87:
I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)

I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....

Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.

For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.

I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
[HD2 General] orangekid:
whaaaa??

is that foreal?
[HD2 General] FriedSushi87:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html
[HD2 General] backlashsid:
what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.

However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.

I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
[HD2 General] orangekid:
No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
[HD2 General] FriedSushi87:
No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
[HD2 General] backlashsid:
true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !

yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.

my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
[HD2 General] FriedSushi87:
Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.
[HD2 General] backlashsid:
how ?? http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3703&idPhone2=3922

lol !! :D:D all i said was...ok gimme the thunderbolt !! :p:p:p
[HD2 General] orangekid:
Yeah, who wants better resolution and a much better processor?
[HD2 General] FriedSushi87:
Wow. I wish I had the kind of money that it seems like most people here on XDA have that I could buy a brand new phone every 3 months.
[HD2 General] backlashsid:
nope...HTC sensation was free a few days ago..on Tmobile.com !
[HD2 General] Svendrae:
Hi,

I had a HD2 for a long time. But now, since a few weeks I own a Galaxy SII. And I can't say that you're right, because it is faster in any way AND the screen is much better.

So I think you are not looking very objective to the new Phones Sensation / Galaxy SII !

I have both HD2 and S2 and there are worlds between it! But I have to say I am a really hardcore user, I play games etc.

And there are 3D Gameloft Games which was stuttering very much on my HD2 with CM7 (from pongster) and they are very smooth on the Galaxy. And installing apps is much faster from the market or from SD. The galery opens much faster, too. I can play HD videos with no problems on the galaxy SII, on the HD2 I had often problems with playing videos over 800x480. On the galaxy my launcher app menu with over 50 apps is smooth, on the HD2 it is not at all time. And so on...

Sorry, but HD2 is 2 years old and Sensation / S2 are very new. It's no shame to be slower for the HD2 :) It's a really good phone with so much possibilities.
[HD2 General] DPMAce:
exactly my thoughts. Just got my HD2 back from the repair center, and now that it's as good as new, might as well wait until there's a phone that is truly much better than my HD2, and would justify paying 500 bucks or more.
[HD2 General] orangekid:
it's more like sell your HD2 for $200 and buy a sensation for like $350 online or get a free upgrade...
[HD2 General] earthbellybutton:
I just play today with a sensation :), and i got my hd2 running the sd build sense3....bouth of them were pretty the same on loading the sense, but the camera and the sound on the speakers is gourgeuse on sensation.....Is a useful post for me, cosidering that i was one step away to say that i whant to buy sensation....I was using android for longer time then wm, and i loved coz is useful for my needs(beeing owner of a few units with andoid), but now i got the oportunity to boot in multiple OS, and thats keep me hung with my hd2. But also WM is start a slow death...thanks to the developers to keep it alive. Some times (personal opinion) the android starts to be a bit Iphon-ish stile, like, all the phones with andoids, and you can"t do more then root and put some custom roms. So im in doubts :(.... So please Htc stop release new phones in such a short while like every 6 months :D
[HD2 General] czarsuperstar@gmail.com:
I agree my HD2 is awesome. Its so much more than a phone to me. Plus the OSs are endless.:)
[HD2 General] n8dwgphx:
...but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY"

I 100% agree, after two weeks with this phone I decided to pay $85 to get my screen fixed on my HD2. The Sensation felt like I was holding a slippery HOT potato, this phone was hot all the time ? The Sense 3.0 took up half the RAM, I could rarely get over 200mb free. After reading articles about The Tmobile Hercules I decided to hold out for that. All these company's are spitting out new phones at a ridiculous pace. With phone prices dropping 2 weeks after people buy these things I wonder how long it will take before we all revolt against this ridiculous process. Phones are worthless 3 months after we buy them now.

Prime Example:

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/deal-alert-htc-sensation-available-for-99-99-at-target/
[HD2 General] robrob777:
After having problems with my HD2 (sssh bug/muted mic in Gingerbread).

I decided, that day, to go a pickup a sensation after work, lucky me I checked the sensation thread to see what bugs the sensation has... long story short... I decided to keep my HD2 and installed froyo.

Users with the Sensation report HW and SW problems. the most common.

HW

Death grip(a baad one) for wifi -BT.

Dust under screen

Low reception (4 bars to 1 bar to 4 again in the same place, voice cutting out while calling)

Case getting loose

volume rocker falls

power button gets recessed.

SW

Touch screen freeze.

Reboots.

Phone gets hot.

Some guys report worse battery life than HD2.

Basically the wifi death grip ruined my purchase as I use 99% wifi for data.

My HD2 doesn't have any of those problems, and now with CM6 my calling problems are history. Also I like more the form factor of the screen in HD2, sensation is too long(notifications difficult to pull with one hand) and not wide (I type a lot in portrait mode)

Photos of dust under screen:

http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=481

Death grip:

BT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQaBK...embedded#at=15

wifi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDaSH2mK2hg
[HD2 General] robrob777:
By the way, Expert's opinion: (Sergio76(1820+ thanks) the creator of Coredroid for HD2)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15995913&postcount=2

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15996624&postcount=8
[HD2 General] shikaziin:
HTC HD2 still a great drive; where i can try some OS. I already choose Android, but trying WP7 on the same device..is a +1
[HD2 General] pakure:
you guys in the US can get phone upgrades with contracts, for people elsewhere like me in india, we are not bound by contracts and we buy carrier free phones..but the downside is that we pay high price at upright purchase..so buying these smart phones is expensive....well, i have a friend with sensation and another with galaxy s2...seen them and used them extensively.(they come to me for help..they are novices at smartphones/android :))

what i have noticed is that,,sensation is good, but still boot locked...not much different from my sense3 pyramid (sensation) rom on my hd2...galxy s2 is faster, but then i completely hated the plastic feel and build.

anyway, i dualboot between wp7 (yuki xda v5.1) and a sensation based android rom..:).and with mango near...i dont see a reason to even consider the other two phones..........long live HD2
[HD2 General] jetsetwilly:
I made the leap from the HD2 to the Sensation a couple of weeks ago too and in the process of restoring my HD2 back to stock ready to sell on, I goofed up and bricked it but that's another story...here's my 2c

I think the build quality of the HD2 is quite a bit better than the Sensation; it just feels more expensive and sturdy, things like taking off the metal back cover on the HD2 is much nicer than sticking your fingernail in the cutout to peel off plasticky feeling back cover from the sensation. The great development of roms for the HD2 I'm sure will come to the Sensation too, so that doesn't worry me. My wife much prefers the look of the Sensation but it's different strokes for different folks - I love the boxy Volvo-like feel of my (broken) HD2.

The main big plus for the Sensation though is the screen. It brings a tear to the eye, it's sooo nice.
[HD2 General] SamStone:
I bought my HD2 right after it became available here in Thailand, almost two years ago. I was putting Android on the SD card when those ROMs were in their infancy but I was hooked on Android 100% so I decided to get the Desire HD and I put WinMo 6.5 back on the HD2 and gave it to my wife. The Sensation became available here two weeks ago so I decided to upgrade and made the plunge and bought the Sensation, gave the Desire HD to the wife, and she gave me back the HD2.

I was playing around with the HD2 getting ready to sell it and put a Cyanogen NAND ROM on it and I was surprised at how good it was and how smooth it worked, the HD2 custom ROMs have come a long way since the early days of putting the OS on the SD card. Some of the things on the HD2 I actually prefer to the Sensation. I prefer the hard keys over the soft and I prefer having the on/off on the bottom. The notification LED on the HD2 is much better.

That being said, the Sensation is a great phone, it's a little faster, smoother, and slimmer than the HD2 but I agree with most here, it doesn't blow the HD2 out of the water by any means. The only thing that really stands out on the Sensation is the screen, the screen is breathtaking.
[HD2 General] xaccers:
Having a UK version, have you noticed any problems with WIFI when holding it in landscape?
[HD2 General] kidrythm:
Great thread, exactly the info I need.

I picked up my leo straight out of a dumbphone just about when it came out...big learning lesson about the new 4.3" revolutionary smartphone scene.

Problems were openely denied by tmo phone folk, the 3.14 upgrade was poop.

Eager to get a sensation, but a little slower to touch the stove top so quickly this time. Your thread allows me to become grounded, and reminds me of the mantra taught to me by the hTc Leo, "wait a few months, check xda threads regularly, and WAIT!!!"

just another smartphone owner without disposable income...
[HD2 General] TonyCubed:
People need to remember that stuff like swiping through screens and opening up apps etc won't be that much different. Sure, you might notice a slight increase or smoothness. But you need to remember:

1) The HD2 is a 1Ghz phone, the newer phones are faster clockwise but the main different is the dual core chip (and soon the quad core versions next year). That'll make multitasking more smoother!

2) Scrolling etc won't be much different because a 1Ghz phone is still fast enough to redraw the screen fast enough. Though, when we move to HA, this should be even less of an issue.

3) Opening apps might be faster, it really depends how big it is and how fast it can be moved into the memory. The problem here is NAND speed. NAND for phones has great access speeds, but when it comes to writing data, they're pretty slow. They're not like NAND we find in SSD's which has memory buffers to compensate for the speed increases!

The fact of the matter is, the HD2 was ahead of it's time, the Nexus one etc came after it and even when the Nexus One etc we're being released, there were still phones which are slower being released.

Last year we have the 1Ghz mark, this year it's about dual cores, next year it'll be about quad cores/2Ghz mark!
[HD2 General] jetsetwilly:
No, not yet - seems ok. I've not S-Offd it yet - still on stock. Fair range too.
[HD2 General] xaccers:
I'm wondering if the problem is mostly with US phones, or if they've now produced backs without the issue in which case if the US got the early phones that would explain why UK phones don't suffer as much, being later models they'd get the fixed back panel as standard.
[HD2 General] MrMiracle:
Well...after reading about the many problems both cosmetic and software in nature of the HTC sensation.. It makes sense why the phone is offered refurbished on tmobile.com. they must have fixed allot of phones with problems
[HD2 General] kidrythm:
fixed?

no.

refurbished phones are ripped apart cr@p handled by people in b.f.e. texas making $10 an hour...

went through a few under my insurance/warranty, oh god it was horrific the many used damaged (even after the refurbishing) hd2's they tried to pawn off on me.

kept my original figuring i at least knew of the issues already.

and yes, i tried to demand an unopened box fresh unit...'tried'.

8 loyal years with tmo and nothing...

EDIT: the refurbfactory is a 3rd party contractor with 0 obligation to please anyone...completely shady and immoral imho.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlosaeg28:
hi guys

if i bought xperia play from telcel mexico, and then sim unlocked it with a code from a website, would the phone then be considered an unlocked phone, and therefore can unlock its bootloader?

thanks :)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] netorino:
It seems that it won't work. I read a post of someone saying that it has to come pre-sim unlocked to get unlocked bootloader
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
No, only factory unlocked devices can have the bootloader unlocked afaik :)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bearusa:
I have paid for sim unlock with cellunlocker.net just waiting for code now. Are you sure i cant get fastboot when i unlock sim lock? Please dont tell me i paid for sim unlock and now i still wont be able to get fastboot
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
We must tell you the truth: unless the phone was bought sim-unlocked from the factory, you won't be able to use fastboot. Phones bought to carriers can't access fastboot even if you sim-unlock them later.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alrider75243:
Telcel Unlock

Hi, can you give me the link to the unlocker at alrider75243@gmail.com, I am not finding any sim unlocker in US for the phone from Telcel.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fma965:
if you get sim unlock it will not unlock bootloader but if you unlock bootloader it will sim unlock

I mean when unlocked via test point
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mynzer:
The answer is no, with the unlock code you can use the phone with any carrier like movistar, iusacel, unefon, telcel etc, but it doesn't unlock the bootloader.

The Xperia Play model from Telcel it's R800a, the only way to unlock the bootloader from R800a phones is with software like Setool or Omnius, those softwares need credits to unlock the phone

Here's a video to solve some frequently questions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn-Vubgka1M

If you want to unlock your bootloader, you can do one of these:

- Buy credits for Setool or Omnius and follow youtube tutorials for these softwares

- Contact this forum user

Alejandrisimo

, speaks English and Spanish, he can help you to unlock your bootloader from Remote Desktop (obviously for $$$, he use one of these softwares and need to pay the credits)

- If you live in Mexico City, you can go to Cell Phone Plaza ("La plaza del celular"), in some of these business offer sim unlock services using Setool software (if you watch the video, you will notice that using Setool software for sim unlock also unlock the bootloader). I unlock my bootloader of my Xperia Play from Telcel in one of these business
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexnigell117:
Telcel unlocking

Hey dude please tell me where did you buy the unlocking code for your xperia please I have a Xperia E and I have tried various sites and they say they cannot unlock telcel phones..
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yowolf:
is better unlock the boot through tespoit without risk of losing the unlock code
[T-Mobile LG G2x] millowster07:
Not sure why but like with the last leak, the 4G and signal bars stay white. Now from what I understand they go green after syncing with google as well as staying connected to google.

My account is sucked and all gapps are working just kind of perplexed why it does not show green. :)

Thanks!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] enoch861:
For some reason, T-Mobile decided not to do it that way. Your phone is connected to google and is syncing, it just doesn't show the green. It kinda sucks, (even though I dig the green though!),but it is what it is.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] aowendoff:
I liked when it went green. Anyway to add it back?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
I was under the impression that's a CM feature. Has it ever worked that way on stock roms?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] RevenG:
It's a Gingerbread feature. It works the same with WiFi. It turns green when it has a reliable connection.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
Check out my thread

Check out the thread I made on how to get them back..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=15894496#post15894496
[T-Mobile LG G2x] richteralan:
Thanks for your contribution.

Not to downplay it, but whats the point if its always green? no difference than its always grey, right?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] aowendoff:
I agree, thanks for trying but I don't see the point so much.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Jay2487:
No, the green means an uninhibited connection to google servers. Sync will still work, doesn't mean it's working properly. Do a master reset and see if your apps auto download. Something is wrong, it's a feature of gingerbread to turn green when properly connected. No, TMO didn't decide anything, this hasn't made it throught TMO yet, LG just messed something up.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Nospin:
I'm not sure why they would leave it out. They either said "hey, it's not important", or it is just something they haven't enabled for this test release (see LG camera app).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Jay2487:
or it's BROKE
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
EH, there's no point. It just looks better. haha. But thanks for being positive!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Jay2487:
Has anyone just flashed the zip and kept the old baseband? Not used the updater? If so can you verify its still grey? Probably a shot in the dark but doesn't hurt to ask.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwill:
Has anyone found or know if an apps is being worked on for Google Music or Amazon Cloud Drive on Wp7? I really want to get all my music in the cloud and I'm going to stick with whichever one has an app first:D Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nok_fusion:
if they will make the website with HTML5 it Will work well with IE browser on Mango
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwill:
Yeah, that's what I was hoping (as I tried it just to be sure). Hopefully something will come down soon. I can't wait to get most of the music I want to listen to off of my phone:D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eric12341:
though if MS enables SkyDrive for music then u can just use that and won't have to rely on ****ty Google.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbebop7:
well Google hasnt even made a simple Youtube app for WP7, so I wouldnt get my hopes up. Amazon probably will have an app soon, considering they already have the Kindle and amazon store app.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyLK:
I'd love to see Amazon do an appstore app and give away free apps everyday like they do on Android. I must have nearly 200 paid apps gotten free from the Amazon Appstore.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwill:
That would be nice. I'd like to use MS on this one for sure. Not that I hate Google or anything.

True. I'd almost rather use Amazon's service as it's pretty cheap with the current no limit on your own files plans. No telling what Google's going to charge:D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohgood:
actually try them out?

I have actually treid both of them out.... (gasp!)

amazons version reminds me of waiting for a RealPlayer video to load BUFFERINGGGGGGGGG...

Amazons crashes more often, and has more ui issues. Google Music Beta crashes 1/4 tp 1/10 as often, and the ui works better for "caching" music offline.

try them both, just hating one because of bias is pointless.