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[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Hacre:
The bad blood happened when he **** on a project designed to help you, the user.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Well,throw a glorious **** on his project then. ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Hacre:
That would be petty. Any comments I had on his project were made in the post I linked. There's no point in me making a further post to point out that he's ridden on the coat tails of the Cyanogenmod project all this time and is little other than someone who knows how to run "make" now is there?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kbiz90:
Hacre, I think you're a BAMF. Funny and venomous too. I just undervolted my SGS2 today because of you and netarchy. Thank you.

It just seems you and AdamG are on the same team.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Well,that's not what I meant exactly.You can just **** all over it,don't care,ignore it.Believe me,the word of a developer who has success(you and netarchy) matters much more than of one without much success(Other guy).Bad-mouth him once or twice and boom goes the dynamite. ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] bisoner:
Nothing like a bit of healthy competition between the developers.

Love this kernel. Battery has irked me. Now it's great.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Well,it's not healthy competition when one developer trash-talks about the other developer's work.Especially when it's good work. :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Hacre:
I'm not a ROM developer, there is no "competition" to speak of. Even if there were, unfounded and false attacks have no place on these forums. I'll take factual critique of my work, but ****ting on someone's work just to enhance your own is childish.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] sqx:
I remember a similar incident with richard and adam in the desire development section.

I think he's just jealous...

Anyway, thnx you made my sgs2 fly
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] bisoner:
I think a public squabble helps neither. Both are clearly talented. I think it's one of those leave it be situations now. Trash talk is merely that. Taking the bait leads to this........

Worst case is we lose two developers from this growing community . We don't want to lose either.....
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] isotoper:
Guys, Thanks for your responses, well, for those who was not cynical .

Well... at least as I know, Kernel does has interface/drivers with Modem, means it may manipulate the broadcast and may has connection with radiation .

Anyway, I'm electro-sensitive, that's true, and I can assure you that I did try the same rom version (Cognition) with and without the kernel and I feel a terrible headache when using the kernel (which is very fast!!).

Please , I'm not trying to reduced anyone hard job and very appreciate the result. Just asking you to be open minded.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Thought you were joking. Sorry about that :p
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Yep,I understand pal. :)

I don't have an idea about what the connection between SAR levels and the kernel is,but this sounds more like a modem issue to me.Have you tried flashing another modem and see what happens?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] isotoper:
m8's, thanks for the serious responses.

I'm using the same modem with both kernels, this and the other one I compare to (which is a Samsung's base kernel), so, I guess the modem itself is not the issue.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Maybe,maybe not.Won't harm to try.

I base my thought on the fact that the software that's most closely tied to the radiowave-emitting hardware is the modem/baseband.Try changing that.Maybe the combination of the modem you're using and Ninphetamine causes something that makes SAR levels rise or something.I don't know,it's trial and error always with these things.

@Others

If I'm saying bull**** don't eat me.I'm just making wild guesses here. :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] veyka:
Hahah, that's some masterfully deconstruction there.

There's space in the world for cm and stock, even more so as cm won't be close to stable for quite some time.

I do hope that you will make a cm targeted kernel version when cm is stable though! Best of both worlds! ;)

And i mean, he could have just said that due to the changes to cm that a non cm kernel isn't garenteed and that running any other combination isn't supported
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] carlos67:
Now that the handbags have been put away:p, I have a question for our kernel king that is Mr Ninpo.

....... (maybe a post 5 candidate) - There have been 3 or 4 users in this thread that have said they have better battery usage with v2.0.2 compared to 2.0.1. Are there any grounds for this? Have you noticed any battery improvement on your own sgs2 using 2.0.2 (assuming you run this version of course).

Nothing in the changelog would point to better battery usage.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] CaspaTheGhost:
__ _

33.3% to be precise...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tltester:
Update: inspite of the workaround versiin I've used, my system rebooted itself after 1.5 days. Have the logs I've recorded - both kmsg and logcat. Who can take a look to find something suspicous? Is there something more I shall look for? Is trying full wipe worth it and may cure this kind of reboots?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] veyka:
If you have logcats and kmsg logs for upto when the phone rebooted post them here for ninpo to look at.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
Edit: I didn't understand firstly.

Delighted with this. I would go too +1:cool:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] (•.•):
Nice Drugs for your Kernel ! :cool:

Ninphetamine ftw

but you know.. drugs reduce your lifespan.. but make it more exciteted:D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Hahaha! LMAO :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] B3311:
I'm switching to your kernel Hacre, because:

- it seems to be very good.

- you write like a dream, I'm insanely jealous

- your putdown of AdamG's nonsense was a masterpiece.

Respect.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Also nonsense. Putting down someone was never a masterpiece.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
And calling AdamG's nonsense will not make you greater than him.

Enough of this.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kenkiller:
Then it must be something non-kernel related. I'm running 2.02 with VR 2.1, and everything is working fine like usual.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] B3311:
It was a masterpiece, a cogent, reasoned argument that refuted every single claim that AdamG made, with just enough anger and sarcasm to make it even more entertaining. Also written with a literary flourish that reminded me of Samuel Beckett.

As you may have gathered, your opinion is a viewpoint I can gladly accept with supreme indifference.

mach0boi eh? A fine, stylish nick.

Sent with lurv.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Josippo:
awasome work

awsome kernel!!!! I get a awsome battery life in combination with Batista70 3.2 ROM. Performance is also great!!! Thanx! In august I will buy you a beer. :-))
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] B3311:
Never said it would. Didn't think it would. Can probably live with it, will keep you informed.

Nice weather in self-righteous-pompous-world today? It's lovely here.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Yes please keep me informed :)

Now I understand why you enjoyed it. Very reasonable.

Very much on topic ;)

Eh?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] B3311:
Do you think your man Manny and Mayweather will ever meet? If so, my money's on Floyd.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
LOL. They will. And Manny will beat the hell out of him :D Much like Hacre vs AdamG.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] jlevy73:
bwahahaha. Manny is one bad dude I don't even think Hacre would dare post 5 him :p
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] B3311:
Floyd's undefeated, never been down, and has the best defence of any boxer at any weight I've seen in my lifetime. Manny will wear himself out trying to get near him.

Wish they'd stop arguing about petty nonsense like drug tests and just throw a shedload of $$ at both of them and get it on.

Go Hacre! Er, sorry, go Floyd!;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
ROFL! :D

10 char
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] defnz:
Mine is similar, though 8m and is the highest wakelock, and I'm on Cognition

I live in an area with poor signal so could be related to that, what about you?

Anyone elses RILJ high?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
I wonder who's side Hacre is on :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] B3311:
AdamG probably thought Hatton could beat both....
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Lennyuk:
Lets just leave the AdamG stuff now, it is not worth runing both threads with it.

Fact is this should have never happened, AdamG needs to start thinking before he types, this kernel has nothing to do with his rom so he had no reason to comment on this kernel especially if he has not tried it himself.

So lets call it quits there
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
Is that a challenge?

Invite him to this thread, and get him to ask why his phone smells of sweat when he holds it for too long...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
He doesn't take sides. He merely points out flawed arguments and points...

So just tell them to get the gloves off, sit down, and have a good argument about Android and GNU/Linux... When one mixes up his GPLv2 and v3, we know who's getting Hacre's support :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] LuffyPSP:
i dont think Hacre is taking sides. He is on his own. oh well i keep on coming back to his kernel. :D best i've used.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Ofcourse I knew that ;) just having fun with the conversation because someone brought Manny and floyd up :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbroeders:
To be honest, all this bickering has made me very curious about Hacre's kernel. (at least something positive right?!) Right now I'm on stock rom for the moment, would it be okay to flash this kernel? Or should i install VR first? Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
You do not need VR to install this. Its compatible to all samsung based roms :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
Yes indeed :) I think a war of words before the fight would be quite amusing too :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] dave_uk:
Lol....there's no such thing as bad publicity. :D Flash the kernel, you won't regret it. ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Nebucatnetzer:
Keep up the good work. I didn't understand the half of what you have written in the other thread although it's interesting to see what you've done. However I can see the results on my phone and it is great especially the battery life.

Greetz Nebucatnetzer
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbroeders:
Indeed! And i'm gonna try it now, thanks! :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
need some advice

Hey guys, I'm new to this OC'ing mobiles. I have 0 knowledge about this. This is what I have done so far.

VR 2.3, ninphetamine 2.0.2 release.

1600 max 200 min, ondemand

Set the voltages @

1600 = 1425mV

1400 = 1275mV

1200 = 1225mv

1000 = 1100mV

800 = 1000mV

500 = 875mV

200 = 850mV

This freezes my phone to the point that I have to reflash a kernel. How do I tweak this for me to be able to use 1.6gHz? Thanks.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Lol. This is already in post #5. Might check and see the answer for this ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Do you actuallu HAVE TO use 1.6GHz?If you can't refrain from trying.Settle down with 1.4GHz,it's really fast.For more stability you should up the voltages by 25mV increments until it's stable.

Oh,and to avoid bootloops,you can create a safemode zip in SetCPU.Hit menu inside the app and you will see it. :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] veyka:
tbh why do you need more than 1.2ghz, at the moment this phone runs rings around everything!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
I just assumed that this kernel was stable since twas built for 1.6? I'm just trying to OC to 1.6ghz. I found out about safemode after my phone froze LOL. What would be the safest max voltage @ 1.6ghz? Thanks
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
It was not made for 1.6ghz. If you don't care what will happen to your phone, try 1500mv. If it freezes, increase the mv.

Edit:

Or wait for ninpo himself to answer this :p
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] defnz:
All the kernel does is allow the ability to OC to 1.6ghz, doesn't mean your CPU can handle it
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
Exactly :) Good to see people realising this :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] LuffyPSP:
i almost burned my sgs2 when setting up to 1.6Ghz and performance mode. god i straight away uninstall setcpu after that. fuhh i would never play around with that thing again. there is a red led glowing while it is hot near the front camera. i immediately pulled the battery out~~ fuhh...

well i was just playing around. i know what i am doing btw~~
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbroeders:
Ok, so i'm running this kernel without problems atm, great! However, when using SetCPU i see it still spends time in states where it shouldn't. For instance, i downclocked to 800mhz, but i still see it goes up to 1000mhz. Anybody has a solution? Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
Then why allow 1.6 if you can't actually use it? Anyway, since my spider sense is tingling. I'll just stay away from 1.6 for now ^_^
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] slind:
you just turned my dire hangover friday "morning" into a lot of fun with your participation in this thread. tvm sir! :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] isotoper:
Well, I'm absolutely sure that this amazing fast kernel does something with sar levels or change somehow the approach to modem and it's very annoying because I really love this one and don't want to lose it. Even the colors look better.

Any advices?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ozzyita:
Hi,

I'm just about to flash this Kernel, is it better to flash with the battery at 100% and wipe battery stats after flash?

thanks guys
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] freemini:
Jesus, why would you ever want to OC to 1.6GHz? Do you realize just how much that is? It's faster than most netbooks you can buy, on a PHONE. 1.2GHz is plenty enough. What applications do you guys use that need so much power?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Try4Ce:
Quoted for truth. I have yet to find an application (except maybe for benchmarks) that laggs and studders on the SGS2. The speed at stock is already VERY impressive. Therefore, OC'ing is kind of pointless, since it ONLY results in higher benchmark points to show off...

Side effects are more heat generation, less battery life and (even quicker) decreasing of CPU life time.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Lennyuk:
only ever wipe stats if you have done a proper calibration otherwise you might be doing more harm than good.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kwerdenker:
Okay, since this comes up way to often i present you the long version of "not every phone can handle it":

You see, in the magic land that is the FAB (thats what chip production facilities are called) when the robotic fairies decide to produce a new processor (or in the case of an embedded device like the SGS2 rather a SoC for System on Chip) they don't say "It's rainy outside, so lets just produce some 1.2 GHz versions and maybe later we do some 1.6 GHz". Instead they churn out lots and lots of the same chips that are designed for a target frequency. Then, after they are produced, they get checked how good they come out of the production line. Some are better and can take higher frequencys and some are very special and lovely but just not as good as their big brothers. When you're AMD or Intel, you sell the better ones to gamers and overclockers for a ****load of money and the others to the rest, to get at least some money out of it. When you are Samsung you just want the highest yield possible (the highest rate of functional chips out of one production charge), so you clock all you chips to the stable frequency they were designed for.

And thats why some of the SGS2 users can stable overclock their chips to 1.6 GHz or undervolt to 800mV@200MHz and others can't. This kernel enables you to test your chip and if its stable, thats good, and if its not, you'll have to live with it.

Hope this ends the "why can't I go to 1.6 GHz when the kernel says it can" discussion ones and for all.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ante0:
This should get its own post and sticky! :P
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ozzyita:
my battery is allready calibrated just wanted to know if t need recalibrating after a kernel flash,

thanks agian
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] AndroidGX:
Hi,

I flashed yesterday VillainROM, then flashed your latest kernel, all stock as you say, and did several benchs with Quadrant, but I'am at 3500 max after 5 tries. Why such a difference ? I don't think it's a CPU silicone story here as it concern mainly OC/UV. :confused:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Well said bro.Sad fact is that most people who overclock don't even know what it actually does.

Overclocking adds more cycles per second,thus resulting in more computing power.But to add more cycles,more electricity has to be drawn.Now,in school's science class we learned that the amount of heat generated by a conductor depends on a)The conductor's resistance values,ie how easy it lets electrons pass through it and b)The amperage,which is the amount of electric charge that passes through the conductor at a given time(The Q=I^2xR equation doesn't apply to integrated circuits.Plus silicon is a semi-conductor).So,by overclocking,your CPU produces more heat,which in turn damages the nanostructure of the chip(commonly referred to as frying the chip).

I hope some take the time to read the two posts.Myself,I overclock to 1.6GHz.Not because I need it,I just like it.But I also know what the dangers are.Those who don't understand the dangers should refrain from overclocking and even undervolting sometimes.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tshoulihane:
Might save battery, since wake can be on for less time, same as setting min to 500MHz if it is stable at the same voltage as 200MHz.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
1.6

Can some of those people with GOLDEN exynos chips able to go 1.6ghz post their settings? I'd like to try it out! :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kersey:
So what are the dangers of undervolting??? Didn't think there were any...

Sarcastic answers welcome :p
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tshoulihane:
what? you want me to post my physical CPU online so you can try it?

I have 90% of time spent at 500MHz, and 0.99% at 1.6 GHz with very minimal use over the last couple of days. Way OT for this thread though.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] rocketpaul:
So a chip that can undervolt may not be able to over clock to 1.6, vice versa? its all random.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kwerdenker:
You stated yourself that you have no idea what overclocking is, so I give you a friendly advice: If you have no idea what you are about to do, don't do it (this applies to everything in life, not just OCing). As it was said in this thread again and again: Overclocking has no actual purpose on the SGS2 other than to increase your testscore-wiener and it can result in dire consequences like you actually damaging your phone.

If you still insist to be one of the "cool" guys with their 1.6GHz-overclocked-and probably-soon-to-be-roasted-golden-ewiener, open a new thread in the Q&A forum since this discussion has nothing to do with the development of this kernel.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tolis626:
Search wikipedia,you'll find your answer.Undervolting causes many errors in the processing of data.Those errors might not be visible by you,the user,but they exist in low level.I don't exactly know how they may shorten you CPU's lifespan,but it certainly isn't good for it.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] LuffyPSP:
It crashes your phone if set too low. Not enough voltage to run the frequency.

Nuked from Samsung Galaxy S2 using XDA Premium app
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ObihoernchenDE:
Fail! Read the Post above yours.

More Hz with same Voltage = More power!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
Did I say I have no idea about OCing? maybe on cellphones... Now, if this kernel is allowing us OC, then it has everything to do with it. If it didn't allow me to OC to 1.6ghz then I wouldn't bother asking right?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tshoulihane:
More power in the CPU, yes. More power in all the other parts of the SoC, no. It's joules that are important, not watts.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Yes read your previous post, you said you have 0 knowledge about OCing. As I said, if u want to go 1600mhz, start with 1500mv.

I really wish Hacre's here. :mad:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kbiz90:
Here is something worth reading about OCing and UVing:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14653361&postcount=651
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Hacre:
If you had a clue about overclocking on a non cellphone platform then you wouldn't be asking the questions you're asking.

Scenario: Your motherboard BIOS allows you to clock an Intel i7 920 to 5GHz. Does this automatically mean that all or even any i7 920s can be clocked to 5GHz on stock cooling? No.

The same applies here. 1.6GHz being available doesn't mean that your phone can clock that high. Overclocking techniques are largely the same between PCs and mobile phones, the main difference being mobile phone processor platforms have much less wiggle room. Expecting a frequency to work on your device just because it's available does nothing other than put you on a hiding to nothing and greatly increases the risk of damaging your phone, or anything else you try to overclock.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] saifbechan:
Nice I was looking for something like this. Too lazy to google, but sometimes things just fall in your lap, lol.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kalpik:
I dare you to provide a special build for our washburn111 that allows to overclock till elebenty bazillion gigahertz.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] washburn111:
:rolleyes: tsk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mach0boi:
Just make a special version of ninphetamine for him.

:p
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Hacre:
:rolleyes: tsk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] stoney73:
...or at least until it hits post 5:p
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] kwerdenker:
I have to apologize, you indeed said you are new to OC'ing mobile and I had omitted the mobile part in my memory.

That being said: If you do have experience in overclocking, I don't understand why you are asking this type of question since you should know how this works and what risks are involved. Do the same you would do with a pc: start at a stable base, increase a small step, test for stability, increase again, test again, etc etc.

Threads in the DEVELOPMENT forums should exist so people can post bugs to the devolpers to help them improve their creation, not to be a general "ask questions you already could find the answer too" or "ask about a feature you have no clue about" collection. That's what the Q&A Forum is for.