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[Verizon Droid Charge] xdadevnube:
Not to start a flame war, but...

Why do people think the SGS2 is far superior to the Droid Charge?

The SGS2 has an inferior audio chipset. This makes a BIG difference to those who like to listen to music with the headphone output.

I'm sorry, but the world's "best" smartphone wouldn't have a crappy audio hub.

I don't understand who actually needs a dual core phone. Hummingbird is fairly speedy. Where are real-world benchmarks showing a tangible benefit for most applications? How about real-world battery life comparisons running real-world applications? Then we can compare apples to apples. Will we see a benefit of increased memory throughput? Perhaps. Will the 2nd core make a huge difference in real-world usage? Perhaps. Time and time again has shown that specs don't really matter, what matters is real-world performance.

I/O throughput measured by Quadrant is about the same.

Display is the same.

RAM = nonissue

Internal Storage size = nonissue

GPU = roughly equivalent in power

thickness = who cares? The Charge is thin.

A SGS2 will be faster than the Droid Charge. Nobody doubts that.

A well-managed Droid Charge with lagfix and debloated is FAST.
[Verizon Droid Charge] PeterGunz:
That thing FLIES. No lag. Rips through home screens and widgets.
[Verizon Droid Charge] RomTec:
The Hummingbird may be good enough now but take in consideration of apps coming in the future that may be too much for a single core. The Charge uses too much ram when idle as well. I know how the linux system works and has the apps standing by for quick launch from the ram but it seems they forgot to set a threshold or something cause my Charge has to be restart several times a day due to locking up and with only 30mb of free ram. My Charge is completely stock too. I'm sorry, I think it's crazy that the Charge has to be rooted and custom rom/kernel just to be normal with today's new phones. It's just like upgrading to new components in a pc because of new software require faster components. For the smartphone industry is still somewhat new app developers wait for the next best hardware to make the next best software.

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[Verizon Droid Charge] Sleek69:
SGS2 will have 4g, so I guess now people really should try and figure out a way to upgrade. http://www.vzbuzz.com/2011/07/verizon-twitter-account-says-galaxy-s-2-will-have-4g/
[Verizon Droid Charge] fortesquieu:
Nope. The updated tweet corrected to be Galaxy Tab 10.1

http://twitter.com/#!/VZWSupport/status/96264728178987009
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
Just goes to show how clueless the ppl that represent Verizon really are.
[Verizon Droid Charge] SigmunDroid:
You seem to discount MAJOR features just so that your

point actually makes any find of sense...It's like saying, "if my girlfriend

wasn't ugly she'd be hot."

Many users don't think like you....check.

Many prefer performance which comes down to:

-cpu/gpu and ram (internal and external)

You complaining about the audio chipset is like complaining about the

picture quality smashed inside of a camera phone. -It's negligible to many-

* Although I do see your point if the Verizon SGSII's audio output is less than exceptional.

Since you don't know the answer, I'll tell you.

The SGSII is a future proofed phone from start to finish.

It's the kind of phone that WILL be able to run future gen applications and games

(Unlike the Droid Charge) -which I own.

The RAM used in the Charge is honestly a joke.

If the RAM hadn't been soldered on, it wouldn't bother me.

Specs DO matter as they dictate real world performance.

That's just like, your opinion...man. (See subjectivity)

And many don't agree with your opinion.

So accept that FACT (which trumps) your opinion.

The question is NOT: whoever cannot root a phone is an idiot and shouldn't own

a "smartphone."

The question is: Do I...or SHOULD I have to root my phone...in order for it

to run as its specs suggest?

The answer (if not obvious) is a resounding NO, period.

The SGSII is a quantum leap forward in a stock phone experience compared to

most (*) manufacturers' hardware out there.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
this thread made me come up with a plan I am soon going to be trading my thunderbolt for a charge and my dad just got one off verizon as his upgrade if the sgs 2 comes out august 12th then I will give him my charge and make him return his for the sgs 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] elucid:
The big q is: will it have 4g?
[Verizon Droid Charge] RomTec:
I'm hoping SGS2 will be 4G since it seems they fixed the dual core problem frying on the 4G lte network (one main reason droid bionic has been pulled back into development). I read there are two versions depending which country it's being marketed. One with Samsung's own dual core and the other with the tegra 2 dual core (which I believe the bionic will have and seems to work now on 4G lte).

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[Verizon Droid Charge] letsgophillyingeneral:
This whole dual-core vs. single-core debate reminds me of 2004ish when dual-core processors on PCs started to become big. The dual-core processors at the time were technically faster, but you didn't see much of a performance boost since the dual-core processor wasn't fully utilized. During a certain time, upgrading to a dual-core was negligible. Then, dual-core's became the norm and most OS's and applications utilized the crap out of the chips. Following that shift in CPU technology was the birth of quad-core's. It was the same debate as single vs. dual, but then it became dual vs. quad.

And now we have the i-Line of processors. It's the same debate. Sure, my work laptop is a beast (i7 2.7G, 8GB RAM, 6.0Mbps transfers, 120GB SSD) but my "old" desktop at home runs almost as fast as the laptop, and my "old" desktop has a 3.0G AMD dual-core chip with 4GB of RAM (slower, too) and a regular HDD (3Mbps).

I'm a nerd, I love hardware and new gadgets, but I personally don't see the point of having a dual-core chip in my phone at the moment. Maybe a year or two from now, but not right now. My work Blackberry was recently upgraded to an Atrix (testing Atrix's and Lapdocks for sales force) and I'm pretty underwhelmed by this things performance, albeit stock.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
The recent tweet from verizon confirmed 4g if anything it could be wrong but check it out yourself
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Read the other posts.

Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42
[Verizon Droid Charge] Sleek69:
They came out and said the tweet was a mistake and they meant to say the galaxy tab 10.1 is going to be 4g, not the verizon sgs2.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
Oh damn
[Verizon Droid Charge] RomTec:
So I did some more research online and I'm seeing here and there that SGS2 is 4G up to 21mbps. Don't have time to link the sites and this is questionable information since it's not from official specs.

One thing I was concern about was hdmi out. That could of been the yes or no for me buying this phone. I'm happy to see the SGS2 will have the MHL port which plays as a microUSB and HDMI port in one. Only con about it is you can't charge the phone the same time as porting out video to a big screen... till the new line of tvs with MHL technology as well. For the win I say.

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[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
Yeah, that is HSPA+. Has nothing to do w\LTE or Verizon. That is the international version.
[Verizon Droid Charge] JOrtenzi:
could not have said it better
[Verizon Droid Charge] kalibar:
Came here to post this. I was all set to drool over an SGS II until I found out that they switched away from the kickass Wolfson WM8994 DACs from the Galaxy S line to a Yamaha DAC that's pretty crappy (according to supercurio, the developer of Voodoo Sound).

I actually really dislike the PenTile displays from the original Galaxy S line, but was putting up with one just for the better DAC on my Vibrant. The fact that the Droid Charge even exists at all (S-AMOLED+, Wolfson DAC, and LTE) is extremely serendipitous for me. Maybe they'll put decent audio components into future revisions of the device, but for now, I'm clutching onto the Charge for dear life.

I realize I'm a bit of an edge case. I don't consider myself a total audiophile or anything, but I've got decent high-impedance IEMs (Shure SE530, approx. ~$200 earphones) and it's heartbreaking to hear the crap that a lot of these phones put out. The iPhone and the original Galaxy S are the only modern phones that take this seriously -- ask me about eBaying an HTC Glacier that I otherwise adored because it sounded like someone was pissing into my eardrums.

This isn't exactly an expensive component. SanDisk's cheapo flash-based player, the Sansa Clip+ ($35 on Amazon) is widely regarded as having stellar sound quality. I'm not asking for miracles, but a $600 smartphone should be able to put out the same quality audio as a cheapo player people throw in gym bags.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Turb0wned:
Simple, sell your charge and put some money in for a full retail price SGS2.....
[Verizon Droid Charge] BleedsOrangeandBlue:
I'll concede that the gs2 is probably a better phone all around, but for what I actually use my phone for, give me 4G LTE every day of the week.
[Verizon Droid Charge] piizzadude:
Please correct me if i am wrong but.wouldn't one of the.advantages of a dual core be.better battery life?

Charged up post!
[Verizon Droid Charge] Sleek69:
The thing is, nobody will want to buy a droid charge on craigslist or ebay if the sgs 2 is out. :(
[Verizon Droid Charge] kgbeezr1:
Glad I saw this. I can stop thinking about switching to the SGS II in the future then and just be happy with what I have. I use my phone for music both in the car and through good IEM's also and won't go back to HTC sound quality, even if it means holding onto the Charge for much longer than I would normally hold onto a phone.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Turb0wned:
That is VERY WRONG. Not everyone knows about the Galaxy S2. I have always done this. With every iphone every year.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Jumpie:
My local Costco said they'll only do a replacement Charge and not do a refund and re-sale for new phone within the 90 days. I was holding out for the Bionic. I do have a friend who likes this phone and will buy it from me in any event.
[Verizon Droid Charge] xdadevnube:
Just make sure you get supercurio's Voodoo Control app working, or else you will not be taking advantage of the Charge's audio hub.
[Verizon Droid Charge] RomTec:
Ya, found that out on another site.

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[Atrix 4G General] frelnik:
On my Bell Atrix, I've found that in every build of Gingerbread I've tried (both the AT&T and Orange France versions), my CPU never cycles down from 1 GHz. On Froyo, it would change depending on usage, but with Gingerbread, it's always pegged on max. According to SystemPanel app, approximately 40% of the CPU is constantly utilized by "System" non-stop. This was not the case with Froyo.

I wonder if this ties in with the entry in the battery usage list which shows X as being among the top two users of battery. The CPU total for X is almost the same as the time the phone has been awake.

Has anyone else experienced this? I know there have been a lot of people complaining about the poor battery life on Gingerbread (and I'm one of them), but now I'm wondering if it has to do with "Service" and the mysterious X constantly using the CPU in the background.
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
Do u have any OC kernels in there or just stock GB?
[Atrix 4G General] frelnik:
I've used the stock kernels, the original ones with the RAM fix, and edgen's overclocked kernel and they all behave exactly the same.
[Atrix 4G General] aleesh92:
I had the same problem, when you delete all data from fastboot (fastboot-w), install 2.3.4 gingerbread returned and the battery lasts me about the same as the stock 2.1.1 FR. (taking into account that spends more battery 2.3.4). now I have the Orange Radio 2.3.4 with kernel faux123 0.100.00R. sorry for my English
[Atrix 4G General] frelnik:
I've run fastboot -w, and used CWM to clear data/cache both before installing ROMs and after installing ROMs, and none of that made a difference. BUT last night I installed kennethpenn's Beta 4, and for the first time, my CPU frequencies were properly scaling, and System was not taking up 40%. Since then, I've wiped data/cache and tried different kernels and different ROMs, and all of them are working. It's almost as though kennethpenn's ROM installed something that wasn't there previously and is persisting through wipes, and ROM/kernel installations. Is that even possible?
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
freeze your bloat.

use setcpu for system profiles.

problem solved.
[Atrix 4G General] jaysonsantos:
For me it was X server running in background and taking 40-50% of cpu. I had to move it because there was no other solution.
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
No.

I didn't have to do this with the Froyo builds and I still had excellent battery life (2-3 days). if I go back to 1.8.3 I still have excellent battery life. And that's with Corporate Sync, Gmail push, and Twitter and Facebook in Blur's Social Networking.

There is something in the leaked Gingerbread roms that eats batteries for lunch.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
You're right. This wasn't in 1.83. But if you freeze your bloat and use setcpu profiles, you will get 2 days of use from your phone.
[Atrix 4G General] maledyris:
I'm also on a bell Atrix with 2.3.4 Orange. I've actually never seen this X process that some people talk about? I don't see it anywhere in my battery usage. My top 2 are almost always display and phone idle. I wonder whether you guys are using a setting or app that I'm not. That said, I'm not getting great battery life either. 10 hours and my phone dies.

I'm also using setcpu with a screen off profile. Haven't decided yet whether it helps or not.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
Freeze the bloat on your phone and use edgan's international kernel. I'm getting 24-30 hours on my bell atrix on 2.3.4 orange.
[Atrix 4G General] frelnik:
That's pretty much what I was getting as well. X was always second to display in terms of battery usage, and it seemed to be using the CPU constantly whenever the phone was awake. I'm not sure what to make of it, what with some people seeing it and some people not. All I know is that after I tried kennethpenn's ROM, X disappeared, and my CPU seems not to be occupied nonstop. Since then I've wiped my phone and installed the Ninja ROM and faux's stock international kernel, and my phone continues to function without X eating up the CPU. This was the exactly same setup that, prior to kennethpenn's ROM, was suffering from constant high CPU usage. No idea what changed it, but now things *seem* to be operating normally and my battery is much improved.
[Atrix 4G General] tiagocpeixoto:
I solved it renaming "/etc/X11" to "/etc/X11.bkp". So... X process magically disappeared!!! :)
[Atrix 4G General] Sass86:
Anyone notice that if you throttle CPU down, to 1mhz then run your finger back and forth on the screen it will still throttle to 1.3mhz? Or is it just me?

Edit: using setcpu
[Atrix 4G General] jcorio:
Open setcpu. Go to profiles. Then quit and go back in to setcpu and it should stick. Don't know why. I'm going to try a profile to keep it at 1100 like temp over 0. Who knows.
[Atrix 4G General] jcorio:
Funny. I opened setcpu and it was back at 1300, so my solution is moot. I did just set a profile if battery is below 101% then scale to 1100 low priority (40)
[Atrix 4G General] jcorio:
I don't know what the deal is. Set cpu tells me the clock is set to 1100. Which matches cm7 settings which also matches system panel. But watching the cpu speed in setcpu it will go to 1300. So yeah. Back to the drawing board.
[Atrix 4G General] jcorio:
Bear with me. Not spamming. Here's my deal. Most people's governors are greyed out. Mine is not. Tasker, system monitor show it which then allows setcpu to show it. If I'm on powersave the clock will not stick to my setting of 1100. If I set it to performance. It sticks. Any one confirm or deny?
[Atrix 4G General] lilhaiti:
I was seeing the same thing until I made a profile for Battery < 101 max at 1000 and a priority of 80%. Now every time I open setcpu he cpu maxes as 1000.
[Atrix 4G General] Paschalis:
Indeed.. atrix with stock kernel runs all the time at high freqs..

with faux kernel, is at lowest value, so we save battery.

does it have a governor enabled by default or something?

whatever he did, its pretty good! ;)

Imagine that with undervolt..
[Atrix 4G General] Sass86:
I did that, it says its maxed at 1000 even stops there. If I continue moving my finger back and forth it jumps to 1300. I know its not supposed to, but it does. Maybe they haven't updated setcpu for dualcore yet?
[Atrix 4G General] goatdung:
To remove the used batteries from the X Gingerbread-Atrix-Beta-4-5.zip Install Then install the other ROm. It'll probably related to side Webtop
[Atrix 4G General] Sass86:
Interesting find: depending on the range of MHz u set, it will hold strong. Example; if I set 216mhz - 800mhz it will not overclock beyond. Not sure if it varies from phone to phone. Also if low is 800mhz u can stop it at 1000 1100 or 1200mhz, maybe the voltage fluctuations are too much?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSexyMan:
I read a ton of threads and that is why I'm just going to make a post because I know I must be doing something wrong, but I keep reading and reading following steps and yet I can't see what I am doing wrong. I am very noob so I am so sorry for that.

I've soft bricked 3 times now so here goes.

I'm trying to install a cust rom, like cherrblur.

I first flashed to 1.5.2 because I read that I should not use 1.8.x. OK done.

I use superoneclick and root the phone (done) and then enabled side loading (done)

So far no issues!

I then need to unlock my bootloader which I do by reading the brief mobile instructions (//briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader)

I place the cus rom such as cherrblur onto my sd card.

I then install cwm recovery and install recovery, plug into charger recovery mode. I click down to install zip from sd card, it does and goes on to install with no issues it says down, I click back and then reboot.

THen boom, bootloop, bootloop, bootloop.... I then flash back to 1.5.2 and write this...

Any help would be greatly appreciated or even a link to a thread I might have missed? I really read a ton of stuff so I might be doing something wrong by mixing something up.

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sinful Animosity:
Sorry to say this, but you are extremely mixed up!

1.5.2 is old. Extremely old. You are also using Tenfar's old CWM, the bootstrapped one. SuperOneClick root method was also deprecated. We now have semi-ROM Manager support, as well as a full-blown CWM from Tenfar.

I suggest you follow these videos: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179506 or this guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1167373
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSexyMan:
Thank you so much, wow looking at this I was VERY mixed up! Thank you, reading the instructions now :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TechnoNeto:
Glad to see others think my videos are useful if u need any other help let me know
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSexyMan:
Thank you sir, it all worked out and was explained so well! I'm so happy its like a new device!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] killajerv0129:
Have been trying to change my modem for the last three days now no one hag actually explained thee process off flashing the modem just need someone to point me in the right direction thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jager555:
flashing a modem is just like flashing anything else in cwm.

pick one up from the following thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1117331

put the zip file on your sd card root. go to cwm (im guessing you have the red cwm), go to install from sd card, choose zip file, choose whichever modem you want, flash it, go back, reboot. and you should be good.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] kkoshko1:
Go to cwm make sure you mounts are good. mounts just to make sure unmount mount mount unmount. Then just flash the zip file of the modem you want. You can find the modems in the Bible thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Just so you know if you are running stock kernel you can't change the modem. You need Bali kernel if you didn't know. I had to learn the hard way to. Trial and error
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jager555:
Good catch. I keep going under the assumption that people have already flashed a custom rom with drhonk's bali kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Yea took a bootloop or 2 to figure that out. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] logicMASS:
I came from a t-mobile G2 over to EVO 3d. So I am very used to vanilla. Sense was fun for awhile. But I can't stand it anymore. I am temp rooted and running ADW Launcher EX. I just wanted to know what is safe for me to remove.

Or should I just tough it out and wait until we have CM?

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
http://goo.gl/Pm2CI
[HTC EVO 3D] logicMASS:
OMG WOW GOOGLE!!!!! NEVER HEARD OF THAT!!!! WAIT THERE IS A SEARCH BUTTON TOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOW..

Thanks ass. I know how to use search. But hey, you've got a point. I will just search each and everyone of these .apk's and unlike you if some one ask's I wont be a douch about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] jgalan14:
I don't think you can removed much since there is not full root yet, but for example if you removed friend stream that phone will keep syncing and syncing to find it so, your best bet is to wait, and yes you can removed some apps but not all of them, but that's an sprint feature htc sense apps are so deep in framework and it will mess up the configuration so yeah

If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d :P
[HTC EVO 3D] justwonder:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1166740

Check that thread out, it wont remove but disable them, save you some MB.
[HTC EVO 3D] logicMASS:
First thing I did after the temp root was run ViperMOD.

I'll just hold out until full root.

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Arnezie:
Why not post in the q&a section?
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
we have a q&a section ? i thought that was the general section
[HTC EVO 3D] logicMASS:
Butt hurt not at all. I'll just never understand why people would rather waste there own time, to waste the time of others.

But thanks for the entertainment.
[HTC EVO 3D] logicMASS:
You got me there. My mistake.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ryan00:
I think the point here is you dont have to google every apk you want to disable. You just have to find the post with all the apk's you can disable. Which their is alot of information here on xda about this topic. It would of took you 5 mins to look!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Fasinationinmotion:
I had to do a factory reset on my phone today from the recovery screen. When it rebooted it said applying update from Verizon. The only thing I can think of is on the FR it reverted to 2.2 then upgraded on loading. I couldnt bypass this though. Maybe if someone can figure out how to do a FR and bypass the auto update we would be back on 2.2. Any thoughts on this?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Mr. Clown:
Can you please post in the correct sections, this is not android development.;)

Thread moved.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bangdrum:
Maybe unactivate your phone first. Then factory reset? No data, no update
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Fasinationinmotion:
It does it right as I turn it on. Even before it gives me the activate prompt. It shows the HTC boot logo then says updating software from Verizon Wireless. Then it boots up.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
GB forcefed

Someone posted that he was able to boot into hboot and clear cashe and dav_,

And the prompting quit and he used AlphaRevX with success.

I think if you did a hard reset then set airplane mode it might work.

I don't know if AlphaRevX works on a phone before it's activated or with data off, or in airplane mode.

Good luck.