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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] 5thElement:
The problem is most players do NOT support mkv. Its not a popular standard and has ZERO benefits over WebM or h.264 which is why nobody cares for it and why there is so much lack of support for it. Its a dead format that has never been popular ever.

Everyone should just stop encoding with mkv and the world of video compatibility will be that much better.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] 5thElement:
Name ONE useful feature that mkv has over h.264 and dont give me that subtitle garbage.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
Not a popular standard lol. Thanks for the laugh. You obviously have no idea about scene standards.

Stop, you're just embarassing yourself. MKV is a container format while h.264 is a compression format. That would be like comparing AVI to DivX/XviD... you don't, do you?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] 5thElement:
Yes I understand, and there is NO reason to be using mkv. All it does is spread compatibility issues across hardware platforms.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dfxdeimos:
Ha, he actually thinks he knows what he is talking about. How... quaint. :p
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] 5thElement:
I still have not gotten a reply. Please provide a single reason to be using mkv, and no, any benefits in subtitles dont count.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] sassafras_:
No, with all due respect, you clearly don't understand much. Let me make this clear for you.

.mkv is a container format that deals with how to pack a video and an audio stream (and subtitles) into one file. h.264 is a standard for taking video frames and compressing them into a smaller size. On it's own, the h.264 codec doesn't do anything because it must be packaged into a container that can store it. I'll chock that one up to an honest mistake.

Second, WebM is an open standard that deals with internet movie files. It uses Google's VP8 codec to store the video, Ogg theora to store the audio and, wait for it, Matroska (.mkv) to act as the container. In other words, WebM IS mkv. See?

Last, I'd like to point out that it was nigh four years ago when the de facto video standard was a derivative format of h.263 known as mpeg4 ASP (XviD or DivX). This was packaged into an .avi container, the standard of which was over a decade old. People who wanted better quality suffered through the fact that nothing (besides, ironically enough, Apple products) played h.264 encoded video streams because of incompatibility with the .AVI container. I wonder how many people at the time thought like you and just wanted the stupid mp4 (or m4a) to go away so they could play their .AVI's on their compatible devices.

Technology and the internet works because of progress. Standards evolve, things get better, and sometimes it takes a while for certain companies to catch up to this notion and make products that are compatible. I'm sorry you don't see the value in it, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the best quality technology because it isn't the most widely adopted format.

sassafras
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] sassafras_:
Ok.

What can you put in the mp4 container? h.264 video and aac audio. What else? Nothing. What can you put in an .mkv container? Any God Damned thing you please.

Multiple video, audio and subtitle streams in one file. How many? As many as you want. That's (∞ - 1) more of everything (except audio) than you get with the nearest competing standard.

True, robust streaming support. Neither .AVI or .mp4 can be streamed without hacks.

Completely free and open platform licensed under the LGPL, which means that unlike the mp4 container, there is no limitation for any company to implement it in their hardware device. There are no royalties to be payed, and the standard can be improved upon by anyway.

Any and all bugs discovered by anyone can be reported and fixed because of the open nature of the standard. This means that any software deployment of matroska will (in theory) always be the latest bug free revision.

True 3D support at the container level. Currently, this is the only widely distributed container that can do this.

True chapter support that functions across all devices and players.

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I know you think that .mkv is some obscure container, but you're wrong. Playback is supported on modern Blu-Ray and some DVD devices by Sony, Samsung, LG, Phillips, Sharp, Asus, and others.

sassafras
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
Also something else you should understand. Tablet users make up for a TINY portion of the tech population. MKV actually does work across platforms (Android included). Just not very well on these Tegra2 tablets.

So, "stop whining" (and pretending to know what you're talking about).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dfxdeimos:
As those above my reply pointed out - you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It Isn't our job to give you a remedial education on digital video. Try to have the slightest idea of what you're talking about before you post next time.

Time to go troll somewhere else perhaps? ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] 5thElement:
Where h.264 was superior to Divx/Xvid, using mkv is NOT better than anything else out there. There is simply NO reason to be using mkv and noone has YET to give a USEFUL reason to. Not ONE.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] 5thElement:
Oh ya mkv is supported by SO MANY yet everyone is having problems simply playing the files due to lack of support. What you make up in your mind and what reality is are two different things.,
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dfxdeimos:
You've already been given multiple reasons, now you are just trolling. Seriously dude, are you 12 years old or something?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] krips2003:
And that's why the thread mentioned about diceplayer. If you are complaining about lack of support, then what's this diceplayer does? If you don't like mkv format, then you don't have to use it. No one is forcing you.

On side note, you have become so annoyed by posting mostly crap, that there's a thread dedicated for you to ban. Also, stop watching fox news.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
Lol, either you're trolling (which I think you are), or you're just an idiot. The ONLY people having problems are those with Tegra2 devices. The limitation is with the hardware, not software. But I guess you'll just ignore this post and make another "nobody has answered my REAL REAL question yet".

Funny question, do you know the difference between h264 and x264? ;) (or divx vs xvid?)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] sassafras_:
This isnt how you make friends.

sassafras
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] pdxrealtor:
Diceplayer

Anyone else try vplayer vs. diceplayer?

I just tried them both out. Diceplayer's picture was superior to Vplayer. Diceplayer did not digitize, stall, go out of sync once, Vplayer couldn't handle the first 3 minutes of the movie I was comparing. Slow scenes...

Diceplayer allowed me to lock the screen, Vplayer did not (maybe I missed that in settings?, but Diceplayer makes it very easy)

Diceplayer allowed me to fast forward to any point in the movie, darn near flawlessly. Vplayer would allow me to move the slider, but the movie would not go forward. Eventually the slider just goes back to reflect the actual point of the movie you're at.

I only compared for 1/2 hour, both 'regular scenes' and fast moving scenes. The movie I used was HEAT. It is a 7 GB MKV file with DTS sound.

Diceplayer for me- and it's cheaper! :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] krips2003:
No matter what other says, Diceplayer is currently better than rest of them in handling videos. I sometimes wonder if people who are claiming that vplayer or mx player, etc handles the 720p high profile videos with DTS or AC3 audios, in fact have those videos encoded in high profile or not. I have lots of Blu-ray videos, that I have encoded using meGui, with advance setting options, and the video never played properly with all those player, except for diceplayer.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] tagorecb:
not work

I installed diceplayer (paid version) on my tab and can not play mkv 720p videos. have sound but no picture appears. The screen goes black. I used to test the file House.S07E15.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION. can anyone help me?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] krips2003:
Go to setting of diceplayer and uncheck thumbnail preview to see if the video shows up or not. I have this problem when playing 1080p mkv files. Only audio no video.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] tagorecb:
did not work. There is another type of setting you think could solve? thanks!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] pdxrealtor:
I read, in this thread, that the dev is very helpful. Try shooting him an email maybe?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] tagorecb:
I am looking for his email. not found on his website. diceplayer.inisoft.co.kr
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dsEVOlve:
Everyone should use MKV for one simple reason, because you don't want them to.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] ShannonAUT:
I had the same issue, try fast forward a second or so (move the slider) you can move it rigt back again. That worked for me:-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] gerrylum:
I had the opposite experience. I was playing 720p mkv files (~650mb files, 30 minutes, avc1 + AAC codecs if that makes any difference) and while they played pretty much flawlessly on vPlayer, on diceplayer the playback was choppy, sometimes stalled or force quit, and showed quite a bit of artifacting. Not sure what the reasoning is, but on all the files I tried (9 in total), vPlayer did a much better job than diceplayer did.

Obviously some people are having better luck with it than I did. Just relaying my experience.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] krips2003:
Open market.

Click on My Apps

Select Diceplayer

Click on see details

Scroll down, you'll see DEVELOPER (below the REVIEW) section. There you'll see the web page link and Send email to developer.

FYI... I did got the reply back from the dev within 48 hrs.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] tagorecb:
Thanks man!

It works now!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] tagorecb:
thanks man!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] CazeW:
Anyone had the bug that when you pause, the video doesn't continue playing when you press play again? I have to go back and select the video again for it to continue.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
Try the new trial. I find it appalling that the trial gets updated before the paid version.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] ganiman:
This player works awesome for all my 720p mkv files. Nice find and worth the 3 dollars and change.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] MrSewerPickle:
I will have to admit, every time I see a Galaxy Tab 10.1 XDA Forum posts veer off into flames and arguements, your name always accompanies it. Its okay to be wrong sometimes. Whats not okay is refusing to admitting it and not being open to learning. Good people lose respect when you pretend or argue.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] bakskj:
House.S07E15.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION worked for me as well without problems. but a 720p episode of Entourage was choppy as hell. Guess the way the groups have encoded their files has alot to say.. wish there was a way to know before downloading.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
It seems the latest update makes the videos a bit choppier.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] DelLoce:
Maybe that's why I can't understand all the hype in here!

I found this thread yesterday (got my tab 2 days ago :) ) and immidiately downloaded the trial, more than willing to pay the 3$ for the full app if it worked.. But I get a lot of stuttering on everything high def.. I've tried several different episodes from several different tv-shows, and all the same..

Damn it! I was SO happy when I found this thread :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
I was able to stream perfectly (with an occasional hiccup) via WIFI before. Now it's just very choppy over Wifi, haven't tried copying to SD yet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
Your files may have weighted prediction B-frames.

HW video decoder of Tegra2 doest not support WP frames.

could you send your files to me ( dice.inisoft@gmail.com )

I'll check your files.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
we'll release new version that have more streaming buffers to play 10-20Mbps MKVs.

please wait for few days.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] DelLoce:
What, you mean send the .mkv-file? :)

EDIT: oh, and by the way, super support coming on here! :) Makes me even more positive towards buying the app (if the stuttering is fixed, of course :) )
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
you can slice mkv file to 10-30 sec.

and send it to me. I'll check your mkv file.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] DelLoce:
Great :)

A mail is on the way.

Something went terribly wrong with the audio (I probably messed up when choosing the settings in the splitter I used :D), but I checked the file and the stuttering problem is there in this file like in all other .mkv's I've tried :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] datapunkk:
for streaming avis rock player works flawlessly.I use opera to find megaupload links for movies. I have a premium account. When you click on premium download the browser gives you an option to either download the file or play using a video player. Dice player works too but it starts lagging eventually.rock player works nice that way. Dice plus es file explorer combo is perfect for wifi streaming.I have to admit watching movies has become so easy now without downloading them. And HD too!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] krips2003:
Well, it's not a hype. I have literally tried all the so called good video player from the market, and none of them able to play high def .mkv file without lagging or a/v sync issue. This is the only player I found that played it without any issues. The only time I have seen a slight lag when I'm resuming the video. But that too happens sporadically.

I'm hopeful, that by future updates, most of the issues should be fixed by the developer.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] DelLoce:
A lot of people joining in celebrating a product and getting a bit over-joyed = a hype :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
I checked your file.

It has 6ch aac audio.

Diceplayer can not downmix multi-channel aac audio now. ( but can downmix ac3, dts )

We'll fix this problem soon.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] DelLoce:
Thanks for checking up on it..

But I've triede numerous .mkv-files, all with the same stuttering result.. I've even tried recompiling the sample I sent to you with stereo ac3, and the problem persists..
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dario69:
For some reason this latest update from Samsung mucked up the video and/or audio drivers. The strange thing is DIVX support was enhanced but now some flavors of H264 or AAC took a dive in the process. I still have to figure out what changed because I have several files with different codecs.

I just know Diceplayer corrects this issue on playback. It must be accessing the right drivers versus the stock video player. I still have some movies that run slow now that did not prior to the upgrade but I still think the pros out weigh the cons with this Touch Wiz update. Thankfully Diceplayer addresses some of these cons. Worth the purchase. Glad I stumbled on this thread.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] ph00ny:
that wasn't really the case for me. It struggled with a top gear encoded in 720p res packaged as mkv. Most places were smooth as it can be but it had way too many stutter spots. Sad since my phone plays 1080p res vids without a single stutter and the same 720p top gear clip doesn't even sweat it
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] krips2003:
My Captivate handles high profile mkv without any issues, that too with stock video player. But, i guess we are talking about the tegra2 limitation of handling high profile mkv file. Therefore, yes, this is the only player in the market, that's doing using hardware acceleration for playing high profile mkv. So far I haven't found any other player that can play the high profile mkv as smooth as diceplayer on this tablet and not phone.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] DelLoce:
So - just wanted to check and see if there's been any progress figuring out the stuttering?

I've not had the pleasure to try out the tab without TouchWiz, as it came pre-installed here in Denmark, but as far as I can understand from both this thread and a lot of others concerning HD-video-streaming, the touchwiz-update kinda broke the feature..

Is there any hope getting it to work again?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] lar282:
Hi

Can diceplayer play a rtsp stream?

trying to get ampdroid and livetv to work on my Galaxy 10.1.

Can one open a rtsp stream manually in Diceplayer? When I try to recieve a stream I get "sorry, this ......cannot be played", but problem is that I do not know if it's galaxy fault or something else. -:(

Regards

Lasse
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
you make html file that have rtsp link or type rtsp url to your browser.

edit:

galaxy's default player have a very good rtsp/rtp player.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dario69:
I don't know what happened but with the last two releases this player has completely gone down the tubes. It was almost perfect when I first purchased it but the last two updates have made it progressively worse. I can't play wmv files due to a hardware acceleration error message but they worked fine before the first of the two updates. I can still play them in the stock player but why the issue all of a sudden? Then with this last release many of my mp4 videos fail.

This purchase has turned into a waste of money. I wish I backed up that initial version I purchased. This player is now no better than the stock and in some cases worse. I hate to be critical but for the price I expect better quality control.

Edit - A few days later and some help from fellow forum members I am all set. Consider the above rant null and void. All problems are resolved.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
for WMVs

Diceplayer -> Menu -> Settings -> Select Player -> change "WMV" to Stock Player

for MP4s

Diceplayer -> Menu -> Settings -> Select Player -> change "MP4" to Default or Stock Player
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] CazeW:
Have you tried playing around with the file format settings? Mp4 for example defaults to stock player and not the default one in Diceplayer after the updates.

And for that matter, I've had no problems playing the files that I have and mp4 playback for me actually got better with the stock player setting.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] dario69:
Thank you CazeW and Juami. I played with Select Player further last night before checking this forum and noticed the setting were screwing things up. This must have come on a recent update because it just made my movies all screwed up. I should have read this forum further. I will edit my post to correct this.

Diceplayer is now back to the top of my list of must have apps. Thanks again.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] simple_punk:
@juami

are you one of the developers of diceplayer?

i was wondering if i can pay you through paypal to get the app and if it that is possible, then will i be also getting the updates automatically or will i need to wait for you to send me the updated version again and again?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Kasha:
MKV still laggy

I've received my Galaxy Tab 10.1 yesterday and have been trying to get it to play mkv 720p files smoothly every since.

I've read multiple successful stories in this thread and decided to give Diceplayer a try - I downloaded the latest trial version from the Market. Unfortunately, the video is still very laggy on the following file:

General

Unique ID : 190652867009762244088105704268947726296 (0x8F6E6814096E0E06AB6820F6D6BF1FD8)

Complete name : H:\Planeta.Zemlya.(11.chastey.iz.11).2006.x264.HDDVDRip.(720p)\Planeta.Zemlya.(01.chast.iz.11).Ot.polysa.do.polysa.2006.x264.HDDVDRip.(720p).mkv

Format : Matroska

File size : 2.16 GiB

Duration : 51mn 10s

Overall bit rate : 6 038 Kbps

Encoded date : UTC 2010-03-15 05:37:03

Writing application : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Sep 8 2008 18:32:16

Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Attachment : Yes / Yes

Video

ID : 1

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High@L5.1

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, ReFrames : 9 frames

Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC

Duration : 51mn 10s

Bit rate : 5 660 Kbps

Width : 1 280 pixels

Height : 720 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate : 23.976 fps

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.256

Stream size : 1.98 GiB (92%)

Title : Planeta.Zemlya.(01.chast.iz.11).Ot.polysa.do.polysa.2006.x264.HDDVDRip.(720p)

Writing library : x264 core 54 svn-635M

Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=2 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=5660 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.5:18.0

Language : English

Audio

ID : 2

Format : AC-3

Format/Info : Audio Coding 3

Mode extension : CM (complete main)

Codec ID : A_AC3

Duration : 51mn 10s

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 384 Kbps

Channel(s) : 6 channels

Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Bit depth : 16 bits

Compression mode : Lossy

Stream size : 141 MiB (6%)

Title : авторский (Николай Дроздов)

Language : Russian

I wonder what the problem might be - is it the high bitrate of the file? And is there any chance it will be fixed in the future?

P.S. Just to give more details:

I'm on stock 3.1, P7510UEKF3, kernel 2.6.36.3 se.infra@sep-58 #1
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] juami:
1. H.264 High@5.1 => Tegra2 doesn't support this level

2. wpredb=1 => weighted prediction make some lags.

Tegra2 only support H.264 High@4.x and no weighted prediction B-frames.

QSD8x60(Dualcore snapdragon) , S5PC11x , Exynos equipped devices can play H.264 High@5.1. ( I don't know OMAP4 can play H.264 High@5.1... )
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Itaintrite:
And that's why TouchPad will be my weapon of choice when the Android port is complete. I just hope somebody will release an HD player for it ;) ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] ichangelo:
I made an experiment in order to figure out the maximum bitrate that Tegra2 can handle and the results was little shocking to me. I transcoded a video fragment with various constant bitrates and with weighted prediction the maximum bitrate for Tegra2 was as low as 5000 kbps. Without weighted prediction for both B-frames and P-frames (turning it off for B-frames only did not have any noticable result) the maximum bitrate increased to 8000 kbps that is still much lower than High@L4.0 (max 25000) and even Main@L3.1 (max 16000).

So, Kasha, in most cases you can't just download a 720p video from rutracker and watch it without any problem even if it's a High@L3.1 video, you should transcode it first with max. bitrate limitation. But it still possible to get a good quality video after transcoding.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] Kasha:
I suspected that the first time I ran the Diceplayer and saw the lags that occured even with HW acceleration.

Can anybody recommend some good converter to preserve the quality without extra hassle of demuxing and muxing again, but with ability to limit the bitrate?

Thanks!