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[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
They are going to tack on a smartphone data plan, but yes, you can use it on their network after you get a SIM from them.
[Networking] dtkool:
I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.

Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)

HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+

When it comes to the plan type:

Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)

My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.

I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.

AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)

Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.

3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.

However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.

Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.

But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.

Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.

That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
[Networking] ImDonly1:
1. It is prepaid. They cannot make changes to your account on prepaid. They can only block the internet. On postpaid, they won't know. Lots of people are using unbranded phones on the postpaid featurephone data plan. This has been happening for a while.

2. Non-branded ATT smartphones work on the prepaid $50 plan. Been tested and reported on. People are using the Samsung Galaxy S2 on there even. Although, speeds may be throttled.

Yes, there are databases of devices available. ATT doesn't care or look at them though.

So, OP. If you do get a ATT 3g HD2, you can use it on the prepaid or postpaid plan. Prepaid might be throttled, but you won't know for sure until you try it. If you use the t-mobile version you will only get edge speeds.
[Networking] Zythyr:
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.

Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
For a prepaid account, yes, all of what you said above is true.
[Networking] ImDonly1:
Correct. If you use unbranded/non-ATT phones. The internet will also work, although may be throttled. Most ATT phones will have the internet blocked, unless you pay extra for it.
[Networking] Zythyr:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
T-Mobile doesn't pull that same shady crap like AT&T does. You are allowed to use any phone you want on their network without having to worry about your speeds or data plan changing. I'm using a T-mobile branded HD2 on a plan I've had with them for years. My plan is still the same $50 I was paying when I first ran away from AT&T. I've never once been forced to change my plan for anything. I think you'll find that T-Mobile is a MUCH more friendly and open atmosphere than AT&T. Once you've dealt with them for a while, you'll understand why nearly every T-Mobile customer hates the proposed AT&T takeover. Most of us switched to T-Mobile to get away from AT&T's nearly evil practices. Also, you will only get 3G speeds on T-Mobile if your HD2 is T-Mobile branded. You do not have to pay extra for 3G or "4G" speeds with them. Their unlimited data plans do get throttled when you hit 5GB of data, but most users will never get that far. If you have a link to the plan details you are referring to, I can give you a much better run down of what to expect.

EDIT: Here's another cool thing about being on T-Mobile - they actually care about making you happy as a customer. Yesterday, I got a coupon in the mail with my statement. It was for 50% off any accessories in their stores. That isn't to say that I'm going to use it, since I don't shop in their stores, but it is still a nice gesture. There is also another separate piece of mail heading out to current customers that is a $25 gift card for use in any of their stores. This type of thing is pretty typical of them. So, let's break it down then, shall we?

With T-mobile, you get faster data, better customer service, reliable call connections, cheaper bills, and all of this with a company that isn't AT&T.
[Networking] ImDonly1:
Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.

The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.

If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
[Networking] Zythyr:
So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
About 80-100KBps, or roughly EDGE speeds.
[Networking] phonegod:
slow as dog ****

i past my 5gb the other day and i can tell you now its slow as dog ****,i use my htc sensation to tether my laptop i forgot not to be downloading movies stupid me now when on xda from laptop the pictures in threads that people post take all day to display i will never past my 5gb again
[Networking] Babydollll:
The 70$ has A 2GB limit that's unthrottled NOT 5GB...also it goes down a "step" in speed..so when I get throttled I go down to 3G speeds since ny phone runs at 4G...although I've seen people get throttled to edge...YMMV

Sent from my ENG S-Off Sensation (Pipsqueak approves of this message)
[Networking] thehunted1:
I have been a long customer with t-mobil, with that being said every time my usage increased they called me and worked with me backdated my new plan to meet my usage. I also have received the$25 gift card for use in there store. Only thing I never did like was that there phones were behind and it is sad to say that just when they started to offer latest technology phones evil at&t is gonna come in and kill it. We have 3 lines with them 1 g1, 8900crackberry, htchd7 that the wife hates(lmao). Our services have pretty much been top notch and some good customer services also. I am very worried since all of our lines are unlimited a cross the board and also being grandfathered in since have been with them since they were voice stream have started looking for new providor. I am a long time disgruntled customer with at&t.
[Networking] DEATH6:
I would recommend simple mobile .Cheaper .
[Networking] Babydollll:
Simple mobile is an MVNO. (Their Spectrum COMES FROM T-MOBILE!) They aren't that much cheaper when you look at the limits they impose... similar to MetroPCS and their lies....if you don't know what I'm talking about Google "MetroPCS Unlimited data"

Sent from the back of a police car....
[Networking] dotAlexX:
Can someone explain this in more detail? How I can get the unlimited plan using an iPhone 2G.
[Networking] cajunflavoredbob:
You can't. They will immediately recognize any iPhone and change your data plan to reflect it. AT&T no longer offers unlimited data plans anyway.
[Networking] erraz:
There is another thread about getting unlimited with the iphone 2g
[Networking] andrewxu:
So i just got a att compatible nexus one.. will that work with atts 50 gophone prepaid since its unbranded?
[Networking] compuw22c:
If you activate a 2g (edge) iphone, the ONLY option available to you is an unlimited plan :) Then you "upgrade" to your desired phone and boom, grandfathered :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilman355:
So... ive been pushing like 700 kbps down and 400 up. What about you? Sprint PRL only please. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Award Tour:
PC mag tested 21 cities, you're a bit above the average they got.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wfrandy:
For me it depends on where I am at. They recently repaired the tower closest to my work so I have been averaging around 2 Mbs up at work. At home I average around 150 Kbs up, almost unusable.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilman355:
So where the hell did they get 2.2 mbs? That's insane haha. Thanks man! Appreciate it! Is it up to date?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Award Tour:
The most recent I've seen - either may or June this year.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c-had2001:
I'm lucky to get 500kbps down and 100kbps up on Sprint, most times its 2-3 know, that's why I run a Verizon prl. I don't know how they get away with calling those speeds 3g when any other provider in town gets at least 1mb down.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runcool:
IT ALL DEPENDS ON TOWER TOWER TOWER! It is limited BY THAT ONE TOWER! it has nothing to do with city *unless the city like has NO fiber or something* If there is good fiber in the city, and depending on the area/tower you're on. you can get 2+M down and 1M up.. I get this on a normal basis. because my city has fiber. lol! But They REALLY need a better 4G network here. on an average, I get 6-8M down and 1.5up on 4G. BUT GUESS WHAT! EVEN ON 4G, I HAVE SEEN IT GET LESS THAN 3G SPEEDS LIKE CHICAGO! All depends on area, amount of people, and technology in that area.

NOW I WISH I WOULD STOP SEEING THREADS LIKE THIS! omg! lmao. I find it funny that people are like, "omg i'm getting 400kbs" lol. are you even connected to a sprint tower? that's a SPRINT OWNED tower!

OH YEAH, FORGOT TO ADD. WHEN LOOKING AT RATE OF DOWNLOAD.. YOU MUST ALSO LOOK AT YOUR PING! TIME IT TAKES FOR YOUR PHONE TO TALK TO THE SERVER. PING HAS A DIRECT RATIO with how many bars you have and rate of the connection at that exact tower.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c-had2001:
My town must have no fiber at all then because it doesn't matter what sprint tower I connect to within a 30 mile radius I get the speeds I posted earlier, early morning mid day middle of the night all the same. My ping times are fairly low usually below 500ms. So maybe you should help sprint out around here, because in the same locations I can use a Verizon prl and have a lower signal and higher ping and still pull 1-3mbs. I'm doubtful its towers I think its sub par equipment running the towers.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runcool:
500 ms ISN'T LOW! wow! 50 is low. 500 isn't. goto a sprint store near you and check another android phone to make sure it isn't your phone or something. Then again, if you're not near a city. what you got is likely what you're going to get.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c-had2001:
Well I'm in a city, and actually this EVO does better than the 4 epics I went thru. I was lucky with them to get 1000ms ping. Now I can say the areas I been in that have 4G are ok, but officially we aren't suppose to have it here yet. No place in Oklahoma does for that matter. Sprint is either having trouble with the majority of their towers here or something. Just about every other provider here like tmobile, ATT, cricket, and us cellular all have faster data, I'm not trying to say sprint is bad or throw them under a bus just stating how my experience has been. With going thru 4 epics all of which had the same slow data speeds, when they could actually get data, and now an EVO I don't see how I could get all of them to have the same slow speeds in various areas of town. Just my experiences.

Edit: just ran some speed tests and ping of the 4 I ran was 110-140ms, down average was around 600kbps upload was average 200kbps. That's all with a full (pegged) signal from a sprint tower.

who cares what this says anyways
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WILLYJR55:
Sprint just got done boosting towers in oklahoma. I stated the plan for sprints tower plan in another thread ( 3g issues) . Goodbye iden and now instead of many small cellsites . They are moving towers into one cell site and a frequency from 800 mhz to 2.5 ghz in one cell site
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WILLYJR55:
But i average 1.2 - 2.0 mbps in hotsprings arkansas
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jraz305:
Miami.

1114 kbps download

660 kbps upload

349 ms ping
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 954:
fastest data I have ever received

check my video out it speaks for its self. 9000kbps. i would love to see faster by any one. with video proof
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 954:
Sorry I forgot the video ..

:mad:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTRZoHVMaQE
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] detusueno:
100% BS. 100%. EVDO can't go that fast. it's technically impossible. most likely its a issue with the speed test and nothing with what you did.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 954:
Thanks for the lack of input. Figure out some way to contributede to the question why. That is the true speed. Anyone who is knowledgeable feel free to give input. If the speed test is broke detusueno is highly intelligent.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayare313:
Well here in Southfield ,Mi I've hit decent 3g speeds. About 1.2mbs

Though when connected to one bar of Wimax I've clocked 5.4mbs, just wish they'd expand to in-building coverage here.

Sent from my virgin EVO
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 954:
I got 1100 today I can live with that. My new ROM kicks asprin
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ipaulone:
I live in Vegas and inside the house on my recent test i got 114ms DL 475 UL 304 ON 3G, and 119ms DL 1851 UL 1150 ON 4G. Outside i get way better speeds tho.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sitlet:
HAHA dude just give up. Get off your high horse. 3g is NOT capable of those speeds. If that's what your old flip phone showed the speed to be, then it was a glitch in the system. Why don't YOU figure out some way to contribute to this thread....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MTsol:
I get about 2.1Mbps at home on good days. Sadly I can't pick up 4g at home. :(
[Xperia Play General] Alexander33:
I will explain my problem using an example:

I downloaded and installed "Stardunk" to my phone. it occupied 2,84MB of phone storage (i didn't open it) and I moved it to SDCard, first it said it can't be moved and second it got moved and was occupying only 864kb how is this possible?
[Xperia Play General] wired84:
So before you moved it shows 2.84Mb then ofter it said 864Kb? If so that sounds about right to me, you only move the data files to SD not all of the files, its down to the dev to program how much if any you can move to external storage.

If you want to move more you want to root and get proper apps2sd that forces the move.

It can fail first time sometimes, who knows why, does it to me all the time, just think the sd card was in use the first time or something
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gandalf:
Hey guys

Super-n00b question, did my searching, but was not able to find a distinct and crystal clear answer for this which has already caused me one hard brick.

I hardbricked about a week ago going from the OTA gingerbread (installed using update from update.zip with CWM) back to 1.8.3 with RSD Lite.

Got my new ATRIX, and it was on 1.8.3 with locked bootloader, obviously.

I unlocked the BL, and just flashed pudding again to get the update for the ram fix or whatever.

I installed kennethpenn's 4.5.91 gingerbread CWM flushable zip, and have been running that.

I want to go back to stock 1.8.3 so I can start from 100% clean.

GOING FROM kennethpenns 4.5.91 GingerAtrix with unlocked bootlkader, can I use RSD lite and flash stock 1.8.3 back onto my phone with out running the risk of hardbricking?

Responses with direct and distinct answers would be wonderful, as I have not been able to find any by searching the forums.

Thanks in advance
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jruweaver:
Yes, you can rsd back to 1.8.3.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tao_Man:
yes, I have done it more then a few times.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gandalf:
ok awesome thank you guys for the quick and reliable responses!
[Ideos S7 General] rabbitsgotmail:
I have read through in the post and searched on this but didn't find a for sure answer for the slim model. Is root all that is necessary to keep the launcher from soft bricking tab? If so, I'm also confused as to the root method for slim model best buy? Thanks for any help in advanced but please if you don't know. Ow for sure which methods work for bestbuy slim model then no need to answer. Also haven't bought yet, just researching for the purchase so I don't have a specific. Model. Number yet but it is slim from bestbuy. Thanks again.
[HTC EVO 3D] clark44:
I must say this is the best android lockscreen I have seen in a while. I have widget locker purchased but this one was a must buy.

I don't have a direct link to it but just go to the Android Market and search goto and you will find it
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Clark how's things bro?..... So u like it better than WL?.... Can u customize it just like wl too?....
[HTC EVO 3D] clark44:
Not exactly its meant for people who want lockscreen notifications
[HTC EVO 3D] rockypr:
http://www.gotoandroidapp.com/

This lockscreen Looks promising
[HTC EVO 3D] dgaf98:
it doesnt fit my screen. it stops way before the right side
[HTC EVO 3D] mrbusiness85:
I used it for a while. I liked it but there isnt nearly as much customization as widget locker and its alil buggy. I also use a security pattern and it wont work with a security pattern or pin
[HTC EVO 3D] shahkam:
Its not even fully functional -- when i press to disable volume buttons to prevent wake it doesnt work it still wake ...
[HTC EVO 3D] YoungSinema:
I used it for a few weeks on my Hero but uninstalled it because it's not fully functional

Sent from the great mind of Young Sinema
[HTC EVO 3D] dgaf98:
Does it fit your screen? I what am I doing wrong. My slider is squished to the left.
[HTC EVO 3D] str8upx:
This is by far the coolest lock screen. Unfortunately if its not fully functional then its useless. I hope Innoweb gets it 100%. Im all for buying apps but I hate it when devs charge $ for something that's not really finished and/or compatible.
[HTC EVO 3D] clark44:
Samewithme i emailed them but still no reply
[Defy General] ssj3g0ku:
hello

i buyed a defy and i love it. but,

the ui of the motorola is soooo slooooww,i intalled launcher pro from the market and

now the phone is amazingly fast,then i rooted it and installed milestone overclock,now its even faster.

but i want to know what is the best rom for my phone,other than stock froyo ?:)

thank you
[Defy General] salingpusa:
Cm7
[Defy General] ephumuris:
Cm7 for speed and stability.

Ephumuris.
[Defy General] iammodo:
Cm7

Sent from my Tablet
[Defy General] chaos212:
Yea CM7 is the way to go
[Defy General] boonhoong:
Leaked Gingerbread...
[Defy General] keewanchoapsss:
Cm7 mate don't go leaked Ginger because therebis alot of flashing issues that a new Guy like you should avoid
[Defy General] arpith.fbi:
yup..cm7 is far easier to install..and there is also an FAQ page to guide u in every single step..
[Defy General] dlcookie:
CM-7 non motoblur

I def recommend cm7,its gingerbread 2.3.4 ,without moto blur customizable no need for overclocking apps everything is set by defult and themes that make the phone apps transparent ;)
[Defy General] ssj3g0ku:
how about camera cand video recording,will they be the same like on froyo ? (i have red len)
[Defy General] krd_medico:
For UI: CM7

For camera use camera 360 from market

For video recording or camera use LG Camera/ LG Camera pro from market
[Android Themes] Quantumrabbit:
Could some very kind and wonderfully talented modder be able to make an android unlock ring (HTC Sense style) that looks like Conan's hair?

Something like this is what I had in mind:

There are a few high res sources, like this one and this one, is this something that would be doable?
[Android Themes] mackster248:
+1. That would be dope.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigdreco:
To the people that was getting the black screen of death when they flashed a ROM.. to where they had to pull they battery out..

Have any of yall tried to install a EF02 ROM?? and are you still getting the black screen of death??

I would try it myself.. but I dont have internet at home yet and im doing this from work.. and I dont want to go the whole weekend pulling my battery out every 5 minutes..
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Overstew:
There was talk about the modem crashing the phone into a semi-bricked state. Odin will fix the issue, however, EF02 AND EF10's modem both have instabilities in their 3G/WiFi/2G toggles (which are usually triggered when making a phone call or hanging up after a phone call. Since it's a leaked ROM, it probably wont be patched.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nnoble83:
I am on the latest release of Synergy Rom. On stock and Skyraider i was able to edit my vm number to add my password to the end, but on Synergy the options to do that are blacked out, i have my carrier selected under voicemail services. Everything under voicemail settings though is blacked out. Any ideas.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NilsP:
What version are you on? I think he fixed that in the latest release.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nnoble83:
Synergy (RC2)
[Venue Pro General] rsx19:
Now that finally going to be added on contract for att is this phone still viable? Does this phone have any support?
[Venue Pro General] Zurvv:
it is a great phone IF a keyboard is key to you.

support? as in warranty? it comes with default 1 year but you can always pay more for.. more

keep i mind that the camera in pooo

that is with 212 and mango too.
[Venue Pro General] rsx19:
I mean dev support
[Venue Pro General] slight22:
Have you really look through this forum? And then compared it to an HTC phone thread? There are almost no Devs working on this phone.

If you want something you can crack into and work with using ROMS and other programs, this isn't the phone you want.

You will also find a lot of programs actually say "HTC phones only"
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Well there are practically no roms and so far no one has really managed to hack WP7 like WM and Mango is supposed to be even tighter on security so its probably all moot. End of the day with the authorised unlock from chevron labs you will probably have access to the same homebrew applications as any other WP7 device.
[Venue Pro General] rsx19:
Is it supported by chevron?

I guess ill just get a galaxys2 then. I have a galaxy's right now and its serves me great
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Yes, its supported by Chevron.