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[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Please tell me why I would even bother answering you if I didn't feel bad about it. I've just told you and everyone else that I'll be happy to do refunds. That's always been my policy.

I'm not trying to lie or spew bs. Like I said, I'll be happy to refund your purchase, if that's what you want.

Edit: As you've edited your post, I might as well edit mine. I ALWAYS respond to people contacting me regarding the application. ALWAYS. I give responses in a matter of minutes. I really don't care if you don't believe in me - I really don't. But I do care about this project, and I care about the people who believe in it.

I didn't lie in that post. The phone version was exactly what I said it would be. Limited in functionality, but still bringing a lot of the stuff, i.e. an easy to use UI and movie information. A great deal of the code base was identical back then. And please keep in mind that this was before I started working on tv shows. The tablet version also had limited functionality back then compared to what it has now.

Also... I thought you said you were done.

Edit: It's never been about cash. Sure, I wouldn't mind making a few bucks on it, but it's not about cash. I priced it extremely low, and now there's even a fully functional ad-supported version of the application for free. And how much have I made from that? $1.50. Wow, that'll get me rich in, like, a billion years.
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
Principles... like keeping your word?

Dedication to making money? You said it yourself. The phone version has a tiny installed base. Nobody wants to spend time on something that isn't profitable. I get that. Doesn't change the fact that you promised it.

Agreed. But that's not the issue.
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
It is NOT ABOUT REFUNDS. It is about keeping YOUR WORD. That should ne worth a hell of a lot more than a few bucks.

That's right. You responded to me and others who suggested or requested upgrades to the phone version with promises. Then you broke EVERY ONE.
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
Yes, but just a few posts ago you said that you won't update the phone version because it doesn't make sense to have a limited functionality version. What I was pointing out is that it has ALWAYS had limited functionality. That is a poor reason to not update it.

Also... I though you promised a major upgrade to the phone version.

Okay. Lets say I believe you.

You don't care about the money. You deeply care about the users.

Then give me one, just ONE good reason why you won't push the one promised upgrade.
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
Look. I would have happily paid $5 for Mizuu. It's worth it. Hell it's probably woth $10.

I want to believe you when you say you feel bad.

I think it's great that you are migrating to an ICS code base to make the app usable on phones and tablets in the future.

I even think that phasing out support for the current versions is a good thing going forward.

BUT

None of that has anything to do with the subject at hand.

You promised an update for 6 weeks. Then remained silent for 4 more weeks.

Then, when finally prompted, you say "oh yeah. Meant to tell you it's not going to happen. I feel REALLY bad that you had to wait 10 weeks for me to tell you that."

Now, how would that make you feel?
[Android Apps and Games] d4rkb1t:
¿Liar?

Just to remember. You said that you bought it on August. On august this app was still on BETA.

As I haven't got really a good memory (and I can't be sure about the BETA fact), let's review what you bought. You bought an app that promised: "Mizuu is capable to manage all your video content on your Smartphone". You bought an App to do THAT. And you got it, and as I know, it's still doing that. So he isn't a liar, and in fact you bought the app to do that.

I think that Mizuu phone is (was) a great product, and its price is (was) fair, even now.

Michell talked many times about the phone update, but always saying that the tablet was his focus. He always was saying that the phone version would get the update when he would be able to do it. BTW, as I see he couldn't update it and develop the new features that the tablet has now. Now he is saying that when ICS will be released, he will update it because its the principle of android (and I'm agree of this), and because it's easiest to mantain the project. So there will finally be one app called "Mizuu", for tablets and for phones.

But, furthermore, it's making me laugh that you are saying that he hasn't care about his costumers. He said you (more than a couple of times) that he will refund you (and all people that are annoyed with this)... when people bought what the app said always: manage the video files.

And are you saying that he has not care about his costumers?. Are you just kidding?

BTW, why are not you arguing with DELL about the ICS update for your phones?, it's more fair to do that, and not to flame a developer that is saying:

* its too difficult maintain two versions

* if you are annoyed from that he will refund you the money,

* he will update the entire app to ICS because it's why google made the next android version (to do the apps compatible with the phones and tablets).

It wouldn't be a problem if the phone manufacturers would update the firmware/ROM phones.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
I've said many things, but I'm devoted to stay true to my word. Phone support will come, but not in the shape I promised - it's coming with ICS. There's no point in having separate versions, where one of them has less functionality than the other.

And yes, I have remained absolutely silent regarding this, there's no denying that. But I have done so for a reason. I knew Google would reveal ICS in October. The date was postponed, but I was still hopeful that it'd be revealed shortly thereafter and that phones would be available almost immediately after the announcement.

I also knew that Google had said that ICS would be able to run on all phones with Android 2.3, and I knew that Google and a lot of their partners had agreed on a 18 month upgrade plan. 67 percent of the phone version install base is Android 2.3, so I was assuming that these users would be able to upgrade to ICS within months. I also just noticed that 9 percent are on Android 3.0+ for some reason. If anyone of those are reading this, let me know, and I'll give you a refund. You deserve to be using the tablet version instead.

I was hopeful that those 67 percent of the users could upgrade to the "real" version of Mizuu. The remaining users, approximately 30-40 people, would be left with the phone version.

I know I promised something better, but I later learned that Google recommends a single installation package that works on all types of devices. I honestly didn't know that this was the way to go, and after I've found out, I'm naturally trying to fix my wrongs - partly by upgrading the current tablet version and partly by offering refunds to the people who've purchased the phone version.

There are quite a few advantages to having just one installation package, but two in particular that I'd like to point out:

- Users pay once, but can use it on all their devices, both phones and tablets

- All users get updates at the same time

I really don't know how I can explain it any better. I'm sorry that you're feeling sad and mad about this, but I honestly think it's the best way to do it. I really don't see any other usable alternatives.
[Android Apps and Games] hellalucard:
I don't need a refund or anything, I still like the app.

But hey if you wanna send me the source files for the phone version I may do my own mods to it ;)
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Hey!

I'll go ahead and open source it next week. Hopefully that'll also help me become a better programmer :)

Cheers,

Michell
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
First off, you should probably read through the thread and my posts before comenting, as you don't seem to have the facts straight, so I will keep this (fairly) short. By the way, the phone app went from beta on the 10th to market on the 13th. It would have been impossible for me to me to have purchaed it in mid-August (the 17th to be precise) otherwise. I believe in fact checking my posts as much as possible.

1.) I never said Mizuu wasn't worth the price or that the software was in any way unsatisfactory. Either version.

2.) MichellBak promised an update to the pre-honeycomb phone version. Not a new ICS based version. It's not about Android's "principles" and whether I, you, or Michell agree with them. It is about the promise he made to multiple people, multiple times. By the very definition of the word, someone who breaks a promise intentionally is a liar.

3.) Obviously you have never worked in customer relations. I have, for years. You don't offer angry customers refunds "because you care". If you care, you fix the problem. No, you offer a refund when fixing the problem is too inconvenient and you DON'T care.

Also, as I said "more than a couple times", I don't want a refund as I don't feel that the program wasn't/isn't worth the money. It's not about the quality of the program. It is about a BROKEN PROMISE. I don't know how much clearer I can make that.

3.)

A) Dell never promised ne an upgrade to ICS, or even GB. They actually released GB (at least overseas) this past week. They have also not said said that ICS isn't comming. Why exacly would you suggest I berate them?

B) On September the 4th MichellBak said "... the majority of the work I do on the tablet version is pretty easy to port to the phone version..." so maybe the upgrade to the phone version as soon as that started to change? Even now it should be possible to pull the code from an archive version of Mizuu tablet that is less divergent than 1.7x.

Also, I never asked him to "maintain" the phone version. All I ever asked for was one promised update. That's it.

C) Again, not about ICS at all. This upgrade was supposed to be underway long before ICS went official; saying 'Google told me not to' is the worst kind of passing the buck.

4.) What?! Now you're kidding right? That's like saying "car polution wouldn't be a problem if car manufacturers would just 'update' all old cars to be hybrids".

I'm not going to even discuss the myriad of reasons what is wrong with your statement.

In closing. If you feel the need to discuss this more, feel free to PM me. But maybe do a little research first.

Martin

Sent from Vera, my Iconia A500; All dressed up going places!
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
If you were to continue development of the Gingerbread version if the app, I would be more than happy to make a donation or support your work in any way I can.

I think it's a great app too, it just needs some love.

Sent from Vera, my Iconia A500; All dressed up going places!
[Android Apps and Games] smnc:
MichaellBak,

First off, I would like to apologize.

Not for what I said, as I still adamantly stand behind the facts I presented.

But I do apologize for how I said them.

I was (and still am) angry and hurt by someone who I had trusted to keep a promise, so I lashed out. My behaviour was inapropriate and inexcusable.

I am sorry.

I will attempt to keep this concise.

I am grateful for your hard work on the tablet version. Mizuu tablet truly is a supperior piece of software.

I also appreciate that you finally explained the reasons for your choices in full. Honesty and transparancy are important.

In addition, I applaud the decision to open-source Mizuu phone.

I don't disagree your long term plan. I simply think your execution is flawed.

By now you should be aware that the earliest official ICS upgrades for exisiting devices (except the Galaxy S) are not expected to roll out to end users until mid-January at the earliest. That means that you are, in effect, planning on pushing back the 'modified' promised update at least an additional 10 weeks. On top of all the delays thus far.

Plus, not all phones will get official ICS updates. I'm sure CyanogenMod and other custom ROMs will put ICS on to lots of phones who won't otherwise get updated, but relying on it seems weak at best.

To me it just seems that your plan does very little to mitigate the broken promise.

'All of you have already been abandoned for the past month.

But good news! Some of you will get an update... in another 10 or more weeks.'

But I digress. Obviously you have made up your mind and whether or not I agree with you is irrelevant.

Unfortunately, I am no longer able to trust in your promises and therefore will be withdrawing from this thread after this post. I do not feel that I can support a developer I no longer trust and if I cannot support you it would be inaptopriate of me to post here.

I do believe that Mizuu is a great piece of software and I will continue to use both versions of it. I appreciate the hard work you have put into the project. I do not regret my decision to support you in the past.

I will, however, no longer be able to recommend you or Mizuu to others.

With sincerest thanks for the work done thus far,

Martin Navarra

Sent from Vera, my Iconia A500; All dressed up going places!

Sent from Vera, my Iconia A500; All dressed up going places!
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Thank you, Martin. I am truly sorry for disappointing you, and hope my continued devotion to this project will one day change your mind. It's taken hundreds of work hours and countless sleepless nights to come to this point, and with close to 40 updates, I hope you'll see my devotion.

@All

Version 1.7.3 is out - here's the change log:

Version 1.7.3 (October 31)

Bug fixes

More TV show naming conventions

New widget (experimental)

Options to sort by availability & genre

Tap outside dialogs to close

Updated About dialog

Updated layout for movies and TV shows

As always, it's available on Android Market. The Lite version will get an update soon.
[Android Apps and Games] DGarmon:
Thanks,

Just wanted to say thanks for another fantastic update.

Derek.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
You're very welcome, glad you like it :)
[Android Apps and Games] mauaus:
Awesome update!!! Just a quick bug report, the new series Once upon a time doesnt display any info/ cover... Is there a way to put a custom cover?
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
One of the cool things about Mizuu is that it's using open databases - go on thetvdb.com and add all the information you want :)
[Android Apps and Games] mauaus:
All fixed, didnt think i could be even more blown away by this awesome app. THANK YOU!
[Android Apps and Games] evilantal:
Is there a way to re-indentify tv-shows that have linked to the wrong shows, like you can for movies?

For instance, in my database the documentary series Life (the BBC show) links to another show entirely.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
You currently have to rename the files to match the exact name listed on thetvdb.com, but it is something I am going to add in a future version of the application.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
New minor update, that fixes a few problems and adds a bit of new functionality - version 1.7.3.1.

Version 1.7.3.1 (November 4)

Added support for the Motorola Xoom’s external SD card

Added support for Reddit Videos in Web videos

Fixed crash when viewing movie details without a date

Fixed backdrop bug and updated the backdrop browser

Both the paid version and free Lite version are available on Market.
[Android Apps and Games] mylasthope:
I'd love to try this out. Any chance I can get this on my HP Touchpad running CM 7?
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Sadly not, this is for Android 3.0+. Sorry :(
[Android Apps and Games] evilantal:
Thanks Michell,

Another question, then ;)

Are the movie/tv backdrops (fanarts) cached like the covers? I'd like to be able to see the backdrops when not connected to the internet. Or, alternatively, are they picked up from local data when named something like fanart.jpg?
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
You can manually select them for each movie, just press the "Browse fanart" or "Browse backdrops" button (the name was changed in 1.7.3.1, so depends on your version).

Cheers :)
[Android Apps and Games] ronniecr7:
Hey Michell,

I am just wondering will you consider to port this to Gingerbread? and if so do you have a very rough estimate on when it will be released? thanks :)

[edit] oops, ignore it please, just saw the post above :( damn, would love to have it on my phone, guess I need to wait until ICS :(
[Android Apps and Games] hellalucard:
If Michell opens up the phone version I'll try to update it a little for everyone.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Yeah, sorry about all that, guys.

I'm going to try to publish it on github this weekend, hopefully that'll help a bit.
[Android Apps and Games] mauaus:
Hey!

Any chance of getting a Series widget? :D
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Yep, definitely! Just gotta find the best way to do it :) Ice Cream Sandwich introduces some limitations regarding widget size, so I'll just wait a few weeks to try it out and make sure everything's working properly :)
[Android Apps and Games] mauaus:
Awesome!! Cant wait!!
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Cheers man! :)

Just uploaded a new update for both free and paid users. Basically a minor update that brings some small improvements.

Version 1.7.3.2 (November 5)

Added blog headlines integration

Fixed cover art bug

Improved YouTube thumbnails in Reddit Videos

It's available now on Android Market.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Hey everyone,

As promised, I've open sourced the deprecated version of Mizuu Movies for Phones, and it can be found on this Google Code project page:

http://code.google.com/p/mizuu-for-phones/

I've added a few notes on working on the project, namely that it's based on an old version of Mizuu and could do with some clean up and optimizations in some areas. Also, you'll need to add your own TMDB API key for it to work.

I've written a blog post on everything regarding the decision at Mizuu.tv, which can be found here:

http://mizuu.tv/deal-phone-version/

I'm hopeful that open sourcing the phone project will be of great help for everyone.

Thanks,

Michell
[Android Apps and Games] Eclipse26:
Is there a way to get this to play on my vibrant
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Sadly not, Android 3.0+ only.
[Android Apps and Games] deepflash:
Could someone upload the lite edition?

I would like to try this on my GS2 since I read somewhere, that it is supposed to work on it.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
It won't run on the Galaxy S2. It's using features that are only available in Android 3.0, and will crash instantly on anything older than that.
[Android Apps and Games] deepflash:
Did you change your mind? :-p
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
That post was about the phone version:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16613430&postcount=198

You can find out more info about the phone version on www.mizuu.tv.

Cheers,

Michell
[Android Apps and Games] deepflash:
oh ok..

I thought the phone version was released much later.

---------- Post added at 08:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 PM ----------

So If I get this right the phone version no longer exists but the source code is published?

Is there a compiled version somewhere?
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Yes, the source code is available for anyone to compile, all you'll need is an API key for themoviedb.org. No compiled version is available at this point in time, mainly because it is unsupported.
[Android Apps and Games] hellalucard:
Waiting on my API Key now :D
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Check your inbox if you want to get started right now :)
[Android Apps and Games] mauaus:
No idea whats going on or how to fix it but i have tried a bunch of things, whenever i try to play a movie from Mizuu it says "Sorry, this video cannot be played." Im assuming this is because its trying to open it with the default android player. I have DICE installed (paid ) but i cant get it to default on DICE :(

I have tried, reinstalling Mizuu, no luck, reinstalling DICE, no luck, even reinstalling my ROM!!!! and no luck :(

Please help me out Michael!!
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Hey!

Not really sure what's going on there, seems like it's catching some sort of exception when trying to play the video. I'm going to rewrite the way Mizuu handles files when selecting to play them in the next version. Sorry about the bug :(

Cheers,

Michell
[Android Apps and Games] mauaus:
No problem, ill try to live with it haha thanks a lot for your help :D
[Android Apps and Games] hellalucard:
A compiled version to download of the phone version is available at http://www.aluzuu.com

More updates are to come. :D
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Good job! :-) I'm looking forward to see what you're going to do with it :)
[Android Apps and Games] The_Tech_Ninja:
I love what you've done with the app. I have not used it since my last vacation, but I launched it this morning. WOW! It has came a long way!
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Thanks a lot, man! Much appreciated.

My theory is "iterate - and do it often" :)
[Android Apps and Games] jcarley0830:
Really enjoy this app!!

I've noticed that if a movie has wrong name and I need to identify it, which works just fine, I can't click the back button to get to my list or grid. I have to select the trailer/reviews/actor/backdrop button first. Once that window opens up, then i can back out to main movie grid.

Also noticed the images for the actor details are pretty blurry.

Keep up the great work!!
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Hey!

Err, what version are you on? Both things sound really weird - I'm not personally experiencing that bug or blurry images. If a particular image is blurry, you can go to thetvdb.com and upload a better image for the actor in particular. That's the beauty of open services :)

Cheers,

Michell

EDIT: Seems like themoviedb.org changed their API again, so the actor images are low resolution and not high res, as they're supposed to be. It'll be fixed in 1.7.4, which will be out later today. Sorry about what I said earlier about it working perfectly.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
Version 1.7.4 is out - get it while it's hot!

Version 1.7.4 (November 19)

Added option to edit movies

Added option to sort by availability in TV shows

Added option to sort by genre in TV shows

Added TED Talks to Web videos

Added TV show widget

Added video player settings

Bug fixes

File source browser now sorts alphabetically

Fixed some bugs caused by API changes

Improved dialogs

Limit for movie parts is now 10 (0-9)

Performance improvements

Preference changes

Updated icons

Updated various UI elements

Updated video player

Available now on Android Market. Lite version update will be available shortly.
[Android Apps and Games] jeffw111:
Force closes with new version

Michell,

I just updated to the latest 1.7.4 version and now I'm no longer able to play any of my movies or tv shows from my external micro sd cards. When I try to play them Mizuu force closes. I don't know what changed but this wasn't a problem with the previous version.

One other thing I noticed when I try playing the movies on my internal storage I am now only presented with two options for playback Dice player and the Mizuu player where the previous version would also prompt with options for the built in video player and the BSplayer lite version I have.
[Android Apps and Games] MichellBak:
New version, guys!

Version 1.7.4.1 (November 24)

Fixes missing cover art bug in horizontal scroll view in Movies

Fixes rare crashes when trying to play movies

New naming conventions for TV shows (### and ####)

Updated widgets

Hi Jeff!

The bug should be fixed in the update I've just released. If not, please let me know.

I don't believe I've changed anything in the codes on that part, but I'll be sure to check it out and see if I can fix it :)

Cheers,

Michell
[Android Apps and Games] jeffw111:
Thank Michell for looking into it. Also thanks again for this great app.