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[Nexus S General] TF1984:
Well let me just jump back in here since many of you decided to lay down law while I was away...

NYYFan325 was out of line, ShabbyPenguin was supporting his negative attitudes towards other members. This is not how anyone is to act on XDA, and again as mods have posted for YEARS, if you gotta prolem'... hit the report button. WE don't need friggin forum 5-0 trolling around being rude and cruel; that's why so many people leave the XDA community.

Mikeyinid - Let me be real clear where I came from... I've been here for a LONG time, Dec '09. The matter of whether you know my name or not is not the differentiating factor of my privilege to speak.

As far as the joke that we should bow down and kiss anyone's a$$ cause they are a "well respected member" well uh, yeah, good luck with that. If you're not a Mod or an Admin, you got no business giving others instruction. You a dev? great, then get back to developing. we appreciate your work (maybe) but I don't owe you anything.

Have a nice day.
[Nexus S General] shabbypenguin:
seriously? we had like 6 pages of no flaming or trolls and yet you wish to start everything back up again.. supporting his response is a little harsh, more of a trying to show others where he could have been coming from. so now it is with great pleasure i shall do what you ask, and notify the mods... policies must be enforced and all that
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
Can somebody make a Google Doc that we can all subscribe to that will send us an email when the update is found/ the document is edited?

Don't want to upset anyone by checking my phone every 5 minutes at work today :P
[Nexus S General] mikeyinid:
Thanks for sharing :)
[Nexus S General] ryno502:
LOL Same here.
[Nexus S General] HareyCarey:
Not here yet is it? I wonder what time it will start rolling out..or if it will roll out today. I'm curious to see what kind of a difference it will make and what kinds of trouble it will pose to the custom roms.
[Nexus S General] HareyCarey:
TL;DR
[Nexus S General] Slipknotdrifter:
i just want my update already.
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
It's the 25th. Hrmmmm.. Not surprised.
[Nexus S General] Hawkijustin:
Give it some time people. They still have 15.5hrs left to push it :rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] 4redstars:
This ^^^

I keep checking just to see if someone got it and all I see is complaining and moaning...I like the gdocs idea.

CM7'd Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S General] petrochemicals:
I guess we should give it till the end of the day, but really neither am I.

Thinking about it this is supposed to be Google's flagship phone (until the Nexus Prime), yet this is THE worst Android device I have owned. Now don't get me wrong, the screen is beautiful (on full brightness as any other setting the screen has a yellow green hue) and the stock Android OS is really refreshing after coming from Sense. But one has to wonder about some of the choices of this device such as the omission of a camera button or led notification lights. Not to mention the glaring issue of slow data speeds, horrible battery life (on stock 2.3.4 rom), and awful cell and 4g reception. Then there is the battery issue of never charging all the way. Why does the device never charge to 100%, is it because the battery is rated at 1500mah while the phone is listed at 1440mah? Or is it on purpose to actually save on battery lifespan. I would think if it was the latter Samsung or Google would be out in front of this "Bug" and say so. As far as I have read there are no official reports of either company doing this, so it is all left up to speculation.

I hope the signal and battery issues get fixed with this update that is supposed to be out today because as is this phone is almost unusable as a phone. But really this phone should have never shipped with these problems in the first place. I for one am sick of getting phones that are basically still in beta. It seems that the software can not keep up with the hardware anymore. As this can already be seen with the new dual core phones as 2.3.4 Android does not even support dual core functionality in the native OS. We have to wait for Ice Cream Sandwich for that. What is the point of a dual core phone on Android right now. A little bit of a snappier OS, better 3d graphics support for games? All of the new dual core phone are not going to be used to their full potential until they get upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich, which as we all know a lot of those will take a long time to get that update, if they ever get it at all.
[Nexus S General] mikerowes69:
Sprint usually pushes all their updates at night from what I ever dealt with from the Moment & Epic. Usually like 9pm or 10 pm Central or Pacific time. Something like that. From the official statement, it said it would take 3 weeks. So don't expect it right away unless you get it off this site. I would wait to see what issues pop up with it, you know there will be people reporting it. If it is something you need now. Wait for the update or wait till someone posts it. I am sure by tomorrow you will hear about someone reporting it and not knowing what to do. Hell you may even have to go stock to get it.
[Nexus S General] styckx:
Wow. Impatience. XDA isn't redbox. Just because a company is releasing something today doesn't mean you can run down to your local XDA and get a copy at the crack of dawn. :)
[Nexus S General] 12MaNy:
People need to give it til' the end of the day before they start wiggin out.
[Nexus S General] dreamsforgotten:
You just gave them permission to open seven more threads by nightfall! XD
[Nexus S General] wetrabbit444:
Lol fuuuuuuuuuuuuu your right
[Nexus S General] wackadroid:
i want my update now too. it seems no one has gotten it yet if there hasnt been a successful post yet. wouldve been nice to wake up to. *sigh*
[Nexus S General] hooray4FOSS:
I'm pretty sure it's to save the battery's lifespan. It's a pretty genius when you think about it really... Basically, the reason batteries tend to degrade when they're left in a a charged state. Thus, the phone discharges small portions of the battery while it's still connected to the charger to prevent this from happening. Of course, they can't discharge the whole thing, otherwise it would be useless to charge it.

I'll try to explain why batteries shouldn't be left in a charged state for too long -- I'm not an expert but I'll do my best. Charged Li-ion batteries are usually composed of a complex and unstable lithium oxide compound. If left idle for too long, this compound will begin to spontaneously degrade into more stable phases, but the material left in this composition is useless because we can't use it to charge or discharge. Effectively, that part of the battery is no longer useful for cycling power. Thus, it's better not to leave the battery charged for too long
[Nexus S General] mikeyinid:
Im gonna start 2 more now :D
[Nexus S General] petrochemicals:
Thanks for the explanation, but I already understand all of this. What I was trying to say is that neither Google nor Samsung have come out and said this is why we only see a 94% charge instead of 100% which makes it seem a lot less intentional and more like a bug. If it was truly a feature, wouldn't someone come out and officially say it is a feature of the phone. More so if it is intentional why did they just not make the phone read 100% when it is actually 94% to cause everyone less confusion. Yet another reason this looks like a bug.
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
It's not a bug and your phone can charge more then 94%. When you say come out and officially say this, where would they do that at?
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
Bug or not, it's just wrong.
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
Except for the fact your battery will have a much longer shelf life and usage life then any other battery. I'm not saying it last longer in everyday use, but the life of this battery is much longer. With my evo I had 2 batteries that would charge in 5 minutes, obviously somethings wrong there
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
I am saying that they can have the limit in place for battery life, but make that the new 100 because that is the actual safe 100.
[Nexus S General] rican408:
i think companies dont come out and waste there time on an official statement is cause this is and has been common practice for some time now. trickle charging...

if the battery were to read 100% then u take it off the charger and see 92% then people are gonna ***** that somethings wrong, case in point HTC EVO. as for battery life, i really dont understand how people are getting bad life on these. i get 20hrs with me being on it all day browsing xda, engadget, txt, email, youtube, and games. even then y do people need anything beyond 14hrs? dont people go to sleep? thats when you charge your phone right? sorry thats not directed toward you just the people that demand 9823746932874 hrs of battery life.
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
Oh ok, I see what you're saying
[Nexus S General] dmarden:
I am fine seeing the reality... I don't need to see the number 100. Either way, though... who cares? Is it really so critical? If you see 94 and it's not charging, you know it's "full".
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
I found out if you're using your phone will its charging it will go further. For instance while it showed 95% I started watching netflix and got it to 99% but I believe 100 is impossible
[Nexus S General] 4redstars:
when you see 95% train your brain to read 100%

bug solved and I didn't even have to push an OTA out.

(also remember, these phones do not show battery % as default, so 99.9% of people will not even see that it is 95%, they will just see a full image of a green battery)
[Nexus S General] HareyCarey:
I disagree. This phone, in essence, was made for more tech savvy people. Just my opinion, but, I will say that a lot of people knew what was up when the battery didn't charge all the way to 100 and didn't require an official statement to say that this phone was obviously engineered with other things in mind than a Facebook widget.
[Nexus S General] petrochemicals:
I am saying to me it looks like a bug or else it would have been listed as a feature officially somewhere. Why leave it to speculation and the majority of users thinking that something is wrong?

Also no the phone does not charge past 94%. I can "bump" charge the phone up to 96% (supposedly this works to 100% but my phone gets too hot as you need the screen on the whole time to accomplish this and it takes hours). I have heard that if you use an external charger you can get the battery to 100%, then after that charge it does charge in the phone to 100% as well.

As where they would come out and officially say that the phone purposefully only charges to 94%. How about a statement to the press regarding concerns about poor charging issues. Or really if it was a "feature" I would think it would have been listed in the specs of the phone on Samsung's and Google's websites in the first place.

I agree whole heatedly.
[Nexus S General] HareyCarey:
This ^
[Nexus S General] HareyCarey:
Please read:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
On topic Directly from sprint twitter

"sprint: Nexus S 4G software update starts today! It will be pushed to customers in waves over next 2 wks. No manual DL option. http://bit.ly/qHUzG0

http://twitter.com/sprint/status/95520293493276672
[Nexus S General] dmarden:
Seriously... press release about 94% = full? LOL! As someone else posted, unless you go replacing the battery icon or adding software, you don't even see a percentage.

I really don't get why it's an issue. It's not a bug. "Wrong" is subjective... if it's wrong in your mind, ok... so what? It is what it is, obviously... lol.
[Nexus S General] rican408:
your saying make 95% the new 100. i actually like that idea. but for the people who like accuracy they wouldnt get accurate discharge readings. like i said before trickle charging is such common practice nobody will come out and make a statement or list it as a feature.
[Nexus S General] dreamsforgotten:
What parts missing lol if your phone says 95 its cause you rooted it and added a battery as percent mod to it the phone dont naturally display this. It nice that these mods are so deeply integrated that everyone thinks its stock tho!
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
The percentage is showed on the lockscreen when charging and can also be found under settings.
[Nexus S General] ehac1680:
So Dreams why don't you "Borrow" kpkimmel's code for his battery fix from here and add it to your rom so that everyone will feel better about seeing 100%?
[Nexus S General] dmarden:
k

/morecharactersneeded
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
But mine goes to 11

-spinaltapp reference for the youngsters.
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
And to correctly fix it, unlike HTC's implementation, every percentage would need to be re-calibrated (0-100), not just reassigning percentages for 90-100 (Why the Evo would drop from 100-90 within minutes of charging.)
[Nexus S General] mikerowes69:
When the download begins. Where is the location for the update? So I might grab it and post it.
[Nexus S General] pewipo123:
JUST GOT MY UPDATE!!!..............no, im kidding....truthfully i dont expect to, and id rather use a modified DEVs version then sprints!
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
The first of many.
[Nexus S General] 12MaNy:
Lol! Love SpinalTap
[Nexus S General] ryno502:
Nothing here in the Louisville, Kentucky area as of 12:30 pm.
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
Has anyone tried asking Engadget nicely for a copy of 2.3.5?
[Nexus S General] cteneyck:
For all those without Twitter, Sprint has confirmed that the update is rolling out

http://twitter.com/#!/sprint

Nexus S 4G software update starts today! It will be pushed to customers in waves over next 2 wks. No manual DL option. http://bit.ly/qHUzG0
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
Well it must be on somebody's phone by now. Hope they visit XDA.
[Nexus S General] ryno502:
Be sure to use the *#*#CHECKIN#*#* dialer code every once in a while to manually check for the update. In the past, I have found that downloading apps from the Market helps too.
[Nexus S General] BrianDigital:
If your crying what are the babies going to do
[Nexus S General] dreamhawk:
Just saw this update on sprint twitter.

Correction, Nexus S 4G update will be pushed to customers over the next *3* weeks beginning today - http://bit.ly/qHUzG0

http://twitter.com/#!/sprint/status/95520918729801728
[Nexus S General] dreamsforgotten:
That's a dirty hack i try to stick to useful mods! Lol
[Nexus S General] jinsoku3g:
I've seen a lot of android phones, even od winmo6.5 phones not charge to 100%.. What's 6% to save replacing the battery. It was news a few years ago when they started doing it, now people complain for.. Some reason
[Nexus S General] petrochemicals:
Well... I guess it's okay if they poop in their pants still, as I am all out of Depends.
[Nexus S General] berkmanmd:
I haven't seen the procedure for how we post the file once we receive the update.

I'm new to the Nexus line, but I'd imagine it downloads to /cache (or someplace) and then asks you to install. Do we simply rip a ***.zip file from a specific path and post it here for the devs to modify?
[Nexus S General] nickespi:
patently waiting for someone to post***
[Nexus S General] oscarthegrouch:
This is the highest I've ever got mine. This isn't the first time I've done this and posted the pic
[Nexus S General] nickespi:
I just use a basic wall charger!! Charges it up completely to 100..works actually pretty great..

OEM bats. arent that expensive for me to really care about replacing..Ive used tons os SBC kernels in my evo and never had a huge prob..so ill take the lil less life of the bat..for a full charge..just my opinion..
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
yeah i know, ive gotten mine to 99% also, you just have to be using it while its charging. I've tried numerous times to get to 100%. I honestly don't even know if its possible.
[Nexus S General] mikeyinid:
It'll probably be in Android/data folder but you gotta grab it before you install the update I think
[Nexus S General] ehac1680:
I know it's a hack but I was just thinking.... if the hack got implemented into most of the roms it might keep the threads from digressing to why the battery won't charge to 100!! :eek: :) :D

Just thinking outloud.... Please just ignore me!!! :rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
can i just ask....what does charging, and getting your battery to 100 have to do with this 2.3.5 update???? Also, who cares if you only get to 96...jeez.
[Nexus S General] Slipknotdrifter:
this.

/10char
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
My guess, some people see this as a bug and 2.3.5 is going to fix some bugs. Also, everyone with an NS4G is in this thread so more conversing can get done :)

I say it is acceptable, but I'm no forum police.
[Nexus S General] loofkid:
Not allowing the battery to charge to 100% is a feature implemented in Gingerbread to help extend the life of the battery. It doesn't change your battery life all that much, but it does make the physical batter last a lot longer.
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
Right, but others including myself see this as a poor solution. And here we are talking about it again :P
[Nexus S General] snandlal:
It will be in /cache
[Nexus S General] styckx:
Dude, think of the achievements
[Nexus S General] brokentoaster24:
The update is set to roll out over the next the weeks.. Is there really that many users or is the update that friggen massive that it requires over 20 days to reach everyone?

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S General] jonnythan:
Someone on SprintUsers has reported that he's gotten the update.
[Nexus S General] csementuh:
Ohhh! I hope that's true. Any link to the thread and/or proof from them?

The worst part is is that my damn phone roams so terribly bad that I'll probably never have enough service to actually get the update for awhile lol... I'm pretty sure it won't get pushed if your not on a native Sprint tower..

So since the updated is 'rolled out to random devices over a 3 week period', I am assuming that *#*#CHECKIN#*#* won't force your device to get it? I guess we might be stuck waiting out turn?
[Nexus S General] anaglich:
Excellent! Could you link me?
[Nexus S General] berkmanmd:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221878&page=4
[Nexus S General] csementuh:
Looks like here... http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221878&page=4

EDIT: Oops I'm a hair too slow. That guy doesn't show any proof or anything though, could be a total lie...
[Nexus S General] cteneyck:
think i might head up to the sprint store and have a talk with the repair tech. see if he can push it to my phone.

Also has anybody with an airrave tried to do the checkin process?
[Nexus S General] jonnythan:
That is going to be a waste of time.
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
damn you moolman!!!! share that shiz
[Nexus S General] pfer10:
Put your phone in clock mode overnight it will get to 100
[Nexus S General] crazynotion:
Agreed. It takes forever to get the actual updates in the stores.
[Nexus S General] cteneyck:
Yeah, i tried to call but their IVR keeps sending me to customer care.

Anybody with an airrave tried to do the checkin?
[Nexus S General] mikeyinid:
I hate to go off topic but the battery charging thing has nothing to do with gingerbread. The evo has had the same "feature" since it launched with 2.1
[Nexus S General] hellcatt:
so does that mean even if you dont want to update it will do it anyway? i dont like that very much i was going to wait for it to be rooted and posted instead.....unless i get that first then it wont update?
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
i didn't know that, i will test this out tonight.

on topic: has anybody gotten the update yet or does anybody know if the 4g widget is included in this update
[Nexus S General] forumx2:
I pm'd moolman on the sprint user forum and asked him to come over here and post on this thread and maybe someone can help him pull it off his phone and upload it. We will see...
[Nexus S General] moolman:
Search my username in sprintusers, long time user, posted about the problems with my phone for a month. I just got pointed here to learn how to dump the system. I'll do it if I'm the only one with the update but there has to be more people than myself.
[Nexus S General] Swayyy:
Looks like your the only one anywhere that's gotten the update.. It's rather easy to get the update uploaded... Someone will throw you directions.. Would be much appreciated :)
[Nexus S General] jdmoore81:
Please dump it. That way people don't have to wait 3 weeks
[Nexus S General] shabbypenguin:
make sure you have adb set up,

adb pull /cache/*.zip

upload

???

profit

if you want some personal help with it, set up teamviewer and pm me your details, i can do it remotely.

however if you have already applied teh update then it has been deleted from cache, only chance and getting it now would be to use teh one click return to stock and see if you can re-update
[Nexus S General] DirtyShroomz:
I fing love this
[Nexus S General] Swayyy:
Yeah... He already updated...
[Nexus S General] jdmoore81:
Couldn't he root and do a backup through clockwork
[Nexus S General] steviee7:
i have a airave and im using checkin every hour to see if i receive it
[Nexus S General] 3cables:
so far your the only one i've seen
[Nexus S General] njeske:
Not sure when I'll get the update, but when I do I'll follow these steps and post it if no one else has yet.
[Nexus S General] moolman:
Yes, I already updated it, I thought my phone was super slow this morning, it must of been downloading the update. I will dump it if someone has instructions but hopefully someone with more Android skills than me will get the update soon. I haven't kept up with rooting and computer things since finishing grad school and getting a job..haha...
[Nexus S General] cteneyck:
check your pm
[Nexus S General] steviee7:
could you take a couple of pics and upload them?

not that I don't trust you , I just don't trust anyone :)
[Nexus S General] supercluver:
Does the 4G tether work????
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
if you already updadted can you answer the simple question if the 4G widget was included with this update. thanks for any info anybody
[Nexus S General] beetlo:
The radio isn't going to be in a system dump, and the radio is the part we really really need.
[Nexus S General] shabbypenguin:
like i said, if you get teamviewer i can do it for you.. this applies to anyone that gets the update btw :)
[Nexus S General] cteneyck:
guys. chill out with the questions and request so that we can help him with pulling the update.
[Nexus S General] jdmoore81:
I have alogcat installed so when it comes I will post it
[Nexus S General] moolman:
How do I check for the 4g widget, I held down on the home screen, I pick widgets, which program, nothing is called 4g
[Nexus S General] Shott3r:
New Market appeared randomly

I'm running OpenSoju, and I just now tried to open the Market, and got a Terms of Service Screen, and all of a sudden, I have this new cool, dark-themed Market with Movie access and all. Don't know why, and it doesn't seem like anything else system-wise has been updated.

Getting excited though! This Market is already loads better in terms of information organization, and seeing what the latest update for your apps does.
[Nexus S General] ROB281:
don't waste your time calling tech support they're still clueless
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
Thanks man, that means its not included.
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
how many people are just refreshing this looking for a link to a .zip?
[Nexus S General] droptothetop:
God knows I am...
[Nexus S General] enik_fox:
Pretty much what I'm here for but I can chime in with helpful information if required :D
[Nexus S General] gmap516:
Bahahaha, me!
[Nexus S General] p-slim:
You guys are in the wrong section, if an update link is out it should be in the developement section
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
which will immediately be linked to here :)
[Nexus S General] dmora01:
All this is a BS! No body is going to see the update for two weeks, that is why they say three weeks! I am pretty sure that is not that many ns4g to take three weeks to update
[Nexus S General] enik_fox:
Now is there any order to the update like date of purchase?