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[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....

I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..

I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.

I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..

If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.

Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..

Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD

To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
[Verizon Droid Charge] chiahead52:
how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.

Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
Because like it or not your opinion is based on perception and perception is easily fooled when it comes to battery life on these phones. I have seen it again and again. People believe that one ROM has better battery life than another bla bla bla.. Most if not all those people have no numbers to back up their assumption.. To top that off I am sure you did not recondition your battery stats before using each ROM.

And on top of all that its almost impossible to create an environment where you actually test each phone equally.

So what we have to go by is what is actually changed.. And I can tell you here and now... Its almost nothing, nothing under the hood is that much different at least in the modules and drivers and radio and kernel. And as someone who is a dev I can tell you that nothing about either ROM can make that much difference in battery life.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dubge:
I have gotten good results and battery life from humble. First time i used gc it didnt do well on my phone. Not sure why. Second time around it was much better.

I also used altered beast v4 and it was just awful on my phone. Exchanged my phone for a new one and installed the same v4 as before and it was like a totally different rom.

I have had similar experiences with blackberries as well and if i remember correctly people always said roms act differently with other same model phones

I always set my phone up the same way and with the same apps and widgets.
[Verizon Droid Charge] chiahead52:
fair enough and your statements makes sense to me.....the whole statement about ones perception being swayed by others opinions is totally true and if I wasnt experiencing it personally I would totally agree 100% with you. Something seems different though. Like I said your way smarter than I am regarding these devices and I totally respect you and others like you that do work for the masses. Very cool of you guys to devote all this time and effort to a sometimes undeserving public. No disrespect intended to anyone and I apologize if I did.

Oh ya and I flash at 100% battery charge and wipe battery stats at each flash-OCD kicking in there-haha
[Verizon Droid Charge] IncrediblyDroid:
wow someone is pi$$ed off lol....I have tried both roms and they are equal in battery life. GummyCharge is a sweet rom. Thanks for all of your work..
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
FLAME WAAAARRRRR! Humble is just a variant of GummyCharged. [UND]Both have the same battery life[/UND]...it's just a matter of what you want in your ROM-GC is more of an AOSP experience while Humble is more of a stock experience (minus the TW) and is probably more directed towards a novice user who just wants more from their phone. Just depends what you want. No need to get all pissed about it.

Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
I wasn't mad about people thinking humble was better that GC, people are entitled to their own opinions and if they like Humble better, than that's awesome. This was all about spreading mis-information. I cant just sit idly by and let people spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt,) about my work and you wouldn't either if you were in my position. In fact I received a message from the dev of Humble saying he agreed with my statements about battery life..
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
I don't think theres a way to 'review' both roms seeing as everyones phone and personal preferences are different... the only way is to try them out and go with the one you like, which for me and my Charge is GummyCharged 1.9.1 :)

blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G
[Verizon Droid Charge] aznxk3vi17:
Placebo, placebo everywhere!

Personally, I've moved away from Humble, because the developer claims to debloat and offer a superior experience, but then goes as far as removing Google .apks (why would you remove Google Talk from an Android phone?) and adding in a whole bunch of bloat on his own. I spent more time undoing his changes than it would have taken for me to throw my framework-res onto UOT Kitchen and debloating the stock ROM myself.

That's just my personal opinion though. Try them all out (there's almost no risk factor anyway as long as you are smart) and make a decision for yourself.
[Verizon Droid Charge] emtee_skull:
I'm new to all this and getting my charge tomorrow, come from a fassy, but I think it has to do with licensing is why you have to flash google apps seperate from the custom rom. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[Verizon Droid Charge] aznxk3vi17:
Google Talk comes pre-installed on the phone. There are no licensing issues when it comes to installing or removing apps from the phone.

Sent from my SCH-I510
[General Questions and Answers] nickb519:
First off I like the new type a title and get a simlar thead that is nice.

But to my stupid question. I have a program on my phone and i need at get a replacment phone, somehow my evo's usb port is not working, i can use a charger for about a week then it is too loose to connect and charge my phone.

but the program i can not find is nat geo picture of the day. aparantlly it has been removed from the marketplace and the dev is gone. any thoughts?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] djchad72:
I was back at Best Buy today to Lon at accessories for my Tab10.1. I was considering the USB host adapter, but then the helpful employee showed me this little gem. It is a mobile drive with battery and wifi wrapped in with a light 500gb drive. Although a bit pricy for a 500gb drive, it comes with wall and car chargers as well as built in wifi mini router. Up to 3 devices can connect and use at once.

When you consider a 32gb SD card is $100, this would seem to be worth the leap. No more eject and insert to share data, or sync between computer and mobile. Just push from computer to drive, and then the mobile device uses.

The only downside I can see is stream music via wifi means no multi tasking to the internet. Maybe that has been taken care of but to me this seems to be much better than cards and ports. It certainly means larger mobile storage!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate...kuId=2740208&st=goflex mobile drive&cp=1&lp=1
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] clb33fyxj:
hate to burst the bubble, but i picked one up the other day when i picked up my 10.1 and the keyboard, and will be returning it. mine is unable to stream movies. streaming music works ok, but movies or tv shows just dont work. i tried using mobo and the stock media player to no avai... also the lag on the samsung keyboard drives me insane. awesome device but the software intergration is poor. typical samsung. :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] krips2003:
Use plex, though its not free, but you will be able to stream any media without lag that also include 1080p.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] clb33fyxj:
actually just found that es file manager works pretty well now! doesnt play avi but has played all of the m4v files i tried without a hitch
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] LordLugard:
I don't know where you price shop but a 32gb micro sd card is not $100. More in the 50 - 60 range, even less sometimes.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninja984:
Some of the class 10 ones are around 100 or close to just depends on what brand they look at.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] djchad72:
Exactly. The class 10's are over in the $100 range. Also, regarding playback of video..... keep in mind encoding, format, and resolution play a variable in video playback of anykind: streaming or local.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] LordLugard:
I'm seeing class 10 32gb on newegg right now for $69. Last week (or 2) there was one with a MIR for $10 off but out of stock.

**For those willing to risk eBay, I came across this too-good-to-be-true listing for a class 10 32gb card for $30.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-32GB-CLASS-...Accessories&hash=item2565fe18d c#ht_500wt_918
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] madsquabbles:
No thanks. The speed isn't fast enough for me. It's very convenient, but the performance wouldn't be worth it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thepringlesguy:
I dont know if its just me but I have Zero lag on my keyboard.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] djchad72:
Same here. I think it depends on what you are doing. Every 3.1 tablet seems to have some lag typing on web page forms.
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
Hey all. I decided against going with the 3vo and went with the 4g (on the advice of a few sprint employee friends). I've had root on my hero since it was possible and finally just got tired of the phone itself. This phone is everything I knew it would be. SOME issues I've experienced but nothing all that bad. GV didn't work at all but it's working now and the voice option on the keyboard doesn't work. Oh well.

Anyways, I'm not at all a dev, but will be happy to give feedback on whatever rom (once root). For those who are working on root options...GOOD LUCK!!!
[EVO 4G General] popper668:
hello. nice to meet you:D
[EVO 4G General] c-had2001:
Welcome aboard. I would like to personally thank you for NOT starting a thread about how to root your phone.
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
c-had - You're welcome. I do my homework.

I am, HOWEVER, going through withdrawal lol. I was flashing my hero with a new rom daily there for a while. I'm bored haha.
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
Thanks popper..nice to meet you too
[EVO 4G General] yamaford:
Welcome to the evo. Don't mind the trolls they seem to be in abundance these days. Might make me goto the 3d just for that reason.

As for the voice, I had that problem in a few roms. Idk what the problem was but after installing swiftkeyboard x its working fine on my current daily driver. I can't say it didn't work before becouse I didn't try it.

Salvage asop running like a champ.

sent from my evo probably at work, probably on the clock.
[EVO 4G General] c-had2001:
I'm right with ya on that. This is the first phone I have had that I couldn't root, but hopefully soon we get a solution to that.
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
The 3d board is going through the same thing as this one is when it comes to "trolls" i believe
[EVO 4G General] popper668:
true dat:)
[EVO 4G General] someonenewhere:
I still have my hero...it's collecting dust lol
[EVO 4G General] thegreatdustinLO:
Wow, so I'm not the only one that didn't fall for the 3-D crap. I just came from the here as well and the 3-D was only an option when I heard about the ram and dual core processor, after I messed with it for a while I was over it lol. Welcome man, its a good step in the right direction. The only way I would even consider going with a 3-d phone is once the whole 3-D option either plays out or gets much better.
[EVO 4G General] Kontrollverlust:
Welcome aboard! I just jumped ship from the Hero to the EVO a month or so ago as well :-)

Sent from my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
The 3d is a solid phone and it's FAST... In the end ,however, the screen size and the 8 mega pix camera won.

Im going to look to sell my hero (actually i have two) on craigslist since i got kicked off ebay in 2003.

Let's GOOOO Mountaineers!
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
Im really loving this phone! It's less stressful than my hero lol.

Let's GOOOO Mountaineers!
[EVO 4G General] daoliverio:
Who all here has bought the bigger battery for the phone? Its not that big of a deal for my to put it on the charger...but the battery life leaves you wanting. Is it worth the $60 from a sprint store? Or would amazon be a better route

Let's GOOOO Mountaineers!
[General Topics] rjgreen3:
Can someone tell me where I can find the Gingerbread update for the G2?
[General Topics] TheBiles:
Probably on the G2 forums...

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[General Topics] rjgreen3:
Thanx I appreciate the help. Was reading on t-mo news update had been released.
[General Topics] astron1985:
gingerbred is very fast on sga
[General Topics] rladkins25:
Gingerbread rules
[General Topics] gettinback:
gb is a huge upgrade.
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Hi all!

(or Y'all as we say in texas)

I'm James or Knight Wolf as I'm know on XDA and other forums..

I want to provide a place where all of us from EOD and Destroyer and the rest of EVO 4G can hang..

I am a member of Alpa Team from EOD and have been a problem solver , helper , DAD , and Manager for many years now (I'm34)

I love UOT kitchen and wish there was one for sense 3.0 themes.

current mods from Alpha Team!

I hope to provide a few lnks and options to those who need it.

and with that being said lets start with a few links I"ve found / stumbled upon.. (next post)

and no TROLLS!!!! (unless you have an awsome pic I havent seen yet)

update 08/01/2011 KnightWolfMOD is available (click on siggy)
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Updates in progress!​

Here is a few things I have gathed so far.....

If you have a link to add please PM ME !

:eek: Free phone calls and txt w/wifi (no pic mail) app is $3.99 (one time fee)

:eek: Wired Tether for andoid phones... "Easytether pro" $9.99 (one time fee)

:eek: Fix apps not fitting screen

:eek: Album art doesnt match?

:eek: Old Netflix App

:eek: Transparent gapps/xda

:eek: Overclock script page

:eek: Kernels I'm playing with

:eek: Future Link
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Best. Thread. Ever.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
Something useful (pending)

I like what your doing here

Icons disappear after reboot ? Install fast boot from the market .

Want to turn off captive buttons ?

install screen filter
[HTC EVO 3D] selders59:
Whats up KW! Everyone my name is Shawn and I'm a flashaholic! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
whats up!!

so glad you could make it. we need to help EOD noobs and others in that thread. I was hoping to keep our new endeavors over here.

we will see absolutezero and mayfield and others soon!

WELCOME TO ALL !!!

(even trolls as long as you are funny trolls)
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Ill take this spot till I can get near a computer :)

I do have a big collection of Linux/Penguin Avatars if anyone would like to use them. 900+.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22849951/Penguin_Avatars.zip
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
So what have you accomplished with YOUR 3D ?

Who has a transformer?

What would you like your new evo to do? (besides full root with recovery)

What's your favorite theme (mine is zone 23 III)

Maybe I should have named thread... HAHA!

Htc Android Hackers Anonymous
[HTC EVO 3D] absolutzero1906:
Ding ding ding you are correct I am here. Lets have some fun!
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Sweet! Now we need the rest of the "ALPHA TEAM" , A few noobs with questions, and even a few TROLLS (for amusement proposes).

Hey MAGNUS you out there?
[HTC EVO 3D] evo bryan:
evo 3d

so far loving the new phone hope to see more in 3d but cant wate to see what the dev can make this thing do
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Are there any themers in here?
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
I am sure most of evo 4G team will develop . Kind of a "coming soon" of all stars in my opinion.

I really want a 3D photo bucket myself. As well as CM7 and other "goodies"
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
<------ OG EVO UOT themer

Want to theme skins for 3.0 but ZONE23 does some really nice work. He has the tools and the patience.

I have neither of which (for now)
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Well I'm working on a Monster Energy theme and it's the first them I've ever done. I could really use some help if anyone would be up to it. All help would be greatly appreciated.
[HTC EVO 3D] Wiley_11:
Great thread! :D The only thing I would like to see is some kind of control for the capacitive button brightness. I prefer the Brightness widget with 3 settings. So if HTC doesn't come through with a fix maybe someone here could. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Actually... I'm not really doing a theme... More of a sense 3.0 skin. I have never done a theme and figured starting with a sense skin would be easier. If anyone has any tips/advice for a beginner at sense skins, please feel free to share.
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Here is what I've found so far that "might" help as a guide...
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Holy crap! That is awesome. That is what I have been searching for and have had no luck. Thank you very much!
[HTC EVO 3D] absolutzero1906:
I am not a good themer, but I am learning. The key to the 3.0 skins from what I can tell is decompiling the m10 files which I do not think apktool does. Look at this thread here. I have changed the lockscreen ring and some of the colors on the rosie using this so far, but I got overcome by events this week. Look at it and let me know I will be working a little this weekend and more during the week on putting together what I find. I am horrible at photoshop and other tools, but I guess I have to learn sometime.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=107862

Edit: I guess APK tool does do m10, but try this one to they both work. I use apk tool for my OG Evo for messing with apps and works great.
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
No problem! Just hit the "Thank you" button :)

Should be at least 4-5 "helpers" coming to this thread soon from EOD 4G soon. As well as others. will always try to help as well as share stars been learned. I hope this thread takes off well.

Btw wiley, looking into that captive button thing... I've never really thought of that before.
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
This link tells me "no thread specified"
[HTC EVO 3D] absolutzero1906:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1078621

Weird. Try it again I am looking at it. Did you see my edit APKTool does do m10, After I read a little more lol. Either way it looks like they both will work I have only tried one though.
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Thanks a lot. I think this will help a lot also. All the little pieces like this will add up.
[HTC EVO 3D] absolutzero1906:
All the small things.... Sounds like a good start to a song... *slaps self for even saying that. :D Good luck.

I talked to Mag the other day on PM he said he is on developer vacay until perm root. But I know he is probably watching this for sure. Go to his Transformer rom and let him know which he is actively watching
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
That actually made me laugh out loud. My wife just gave me a very weird look for laughing at the computer monitor...:o
[HTC EVO 3D] absolutzero1906:
LOL good stuff. :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
I can see a new link in my second post in the near future.

Skin 3.0 tips and tricks..

If ANYONE has links to single posts that help please feel free to post. I'll collect them all and ad an "easy link"

It'll be my todo thing when I'm slow at work tomorrow.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I've been hanging and watching these forums a while now and slowly putting pieces together. I think its time for me to start delving in to theme'n. I have so much free time at work :p
[HTC EVO 3D] MichaelMcEntire:
You bastard!! ;-) I want free time at work!

Sent from my E3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] absolutzero1906:
Hey so I just had this happen so have not seen what else is out there..

I was playin music from phone in car via bluetooth. I accidently hit the camera when i parked and no issue music still played so then i hit video, why not sure but i did and bluetooth stops sending music. Switched to camera and pressed play on music and worked fine. So not sure if its glitch or a safety feature or what but thought it was interesting.
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
It probably stops the music so that the video records whatever is going on instead of the music. Thats what I would think anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
We need a widget to turn off camera button. Or CM7 which ever comes first. Lol

Shot from my 3D 4G SOB s-on :(
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Lol. I have more than I can handle. Ill share :p
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
hey KW whats up? Awesome thread! I also am a flashOholic and a tech junkie. I saw on twitter kmobs said cm7 is getting sensational. and since he posted yesterday saying he got a sensation we should be getting some cm7 love soon. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] EvoSideHustlAZ:
What's up knight wolf nd the alpha team..I use to rock the **** out of destroyer,e.o.d LOL can't wait to see what Magnus does with this bad boy..
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Good morning all!

Happy Saturday! Temperatures exceeding one hundred degrees in sunny south texas.

I want some of that "free time at work" planning to get slaughtered today. My business thrives on weekend because of all the procrastinators .

Edit: link removed.
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
What's up KW? Just got off work myself left at 4 am. My weekend starts now.

don't forget to bring a towel and

s-off!
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Already a hot one here in Fl. too! And thank you for the info on theming!
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
Hey guys question i just got a desktop with a HDMI port and i installed a graphics card that only has dvi ports is there a way to use the HDMI from the desktop while still using the graphics card?

don't forget to bring a towel and

s-off!
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
should work. Just make sure you don't have conflicts in hardware. You running windows seven on desktop?