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[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
Oh Im quite sure you're a decidedly grown man who edits Excel spreadsheets and write philosophy books on your cellphone. For the rest of us, the need to "take a finger out of the screen for a split second" every frigging 15 seconds may be very, very annoying. Or not. The fact is, the phone has this issue, and it makes 0 sense.
[Atrix 4G General] Anthonok:
this only happens if you touch the screen an dont move. if youre playing a game and not moving youre kinda lame
[Atrix 4G General] KefkaticFanatic:
It's a known issue, and Motorola acknowledged it a good while ago. They claimed that they would try to find a balance between the raindrop detection and gaming, though only time will tell if an official patch manages to fix it up.

As previous users have said though, if you can just get used to a release for a split second every so often it really isn't a problem.
[Atrix 4G General] lhurtado:
I can't found a single game where you have to keep your fingers still more than 2 seconds!
[Atrix 4G General] Paschalis:
That was discussed thousand times..

I dont use atrix for gaming too.

The only thing I know, if devs wanted the "Atrix" to create "galaktompourekko"(don't care if you don't know what that means), they would made it!
[Atrix 4G General] blackangel104:
Its a phone not a 500$ game boy...but fruit ninja the s*** :)

Sent from my "Emo" rooted Motorola Atrix! Emo Thinks Possible!
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
It's not a problem.
[Atrix 4G General] JaronBang:
I find this to be very annoying also. I play games on my phone. Mainly emus and I've noticed especially when playing any sort of racing game, there's one button you're holding down for awhile and it completely quits responding, sometimes it wont respond until I touch a different spot on the screen.. huge pain when you're playing Mario cart 64 lol. I just find it inconvenient...
[Atrix 4G General] JaronBang:
For people like me who have invested in the lapdock, even for those who havnt. Its a $900 do everything you can imagine besides high end editing / gaming.

I've found a solution for the gamers.. webtop mod>tv>bluetooth game controller(ps3 remote maybe?)
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
For that, I have a 3000US$ machine waiting for me at home. The entire idea of gaming on a cellphone is to do it on the go.

For emulators and racing games, its very annoying. But it gets in the way in other games too... the raindrop detection is so poorly conceived, even if you move your finger a bit, it may still stop responding. You can suffer that fate with any game that uses those round touch-control-pad thingie, like Guerrila Bob.

Motorola also commented on that.. they said the algorithm predicts a few movements a raindrop may make on the screen, thats why you have to take your finger off, not just move it slightly to the side. Even tough it may be a useful feature, a single on/off button would make some of us a hell of a lot happier.
[Atrix 4G General] asesino:
Who cares.Go cry to ur momma
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Well, if I wanted a phone just to do work stuff and things every phone does I wouldn't buy a dual core Tegra 2 device with a powerfull mobile GPU, and an exclusive market just for next-gen games. But I suppose some ppl bought it just for the looks or for the pure purpose of having "the most powerfull android device".
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Believe me, I've tried. I get easily distracted so it doesn't work. And playing with an alarm clock beeping every 15s is not exactly my idea of fun.
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
What on earth are you on about? I am a HEAVY gamer. I play games on my atrix all the time. I have NEVER experienced any issue with whatever you are on about.
[Atrix 4G General] cthomas5714:
Well, I have experienced this issue but not very often. Honestly if you were never told about it how big of a deal would it be? You would just keep moving your fingers. A split second correction never hurt me in dungeon defenders. :)
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
You may not have noticed it. Download any visual multitouch test app from the market, then use it to verify what happens if you leave ur fingers stuck on the screen for a minute. Long before that time, It'll begin flashing heavier than Rio's carnival. Thats because the input went kaput. Then youll remove ur fingers from your screen for 2 seconds and put them back on.. everything will work correctly again.
[Atrix 4G General] Anthonok:
Because you can't move your finger. You have yo leave your finger in one spot. I can recreate it. But not while actually playing a game. My fingers move when I play games. Idk what kind of games people are playing that involves touching the screen without moving your finger.

Sent via the power of a unicorn's horn.
[Atrix 4G General] KefkaticFanatic:
The issue appears when holding down a fire button, a direction on a d pad, or sometimes even just using a virtual joystick. It definitely exists and can be annoying at times, though either I've gotten used to it our manage to avoid it. What you have to realize though is that in order to "fix it", the raindrop detection feature would either be sacrificed or handicapped, so while our devs might go for it moto may not based on how they want the phone to work for the majority if their users.
[Atrix 4G General] RogerPodacter:
Its a pretty stupid thing for motorola to do. Hell here in cali it I haven't seen rain for 400 days straight. Wasted effort and causes a problem rather than solving one.
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
never have had a problem playing any Zenonia or any other RPG like it ot PSX or SNES or gameboy emulators or other games. only game ive had a problem with is gun bros but the problem is on my brothers incredible so its not the phone. there is forums about this months months back. there should AT LEAST be a option to turn it off. thats all
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
not everyone lives in cali. lol
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Its a phone. Play games in short periods of boredom. If you want a game machine, PS3, Xbox 360, Nintendo, PC, PSP, etc. Stop complaining cos you can't hold 5 fingers and 3 toes on your PHONE screen!

Beamed from WinBorg 4G via XDA Premium
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
I honestly think the timeout in seconds is listed somewhere in the phone. Just like we solved the multitouch problem, I think we will be able to solve this one as well.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
+1
[Atrix 4G General] Javi97100:
This is a pointless thread
[Atrix 4G General] MikeyMike01:
The Xoom has the same exact problem. Holding "A" in Mario Kart is a nightmare. One of the reasons I returned it.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
I wont ask why you were playing Mario Kart, but did you try to work around it? Did you try to dev at all? Or did you just return it
[Atrix 4G General] MyronJ906:
Every time I see this thread, I can't help but wonder....who leaves a raindrop on their screen for that long without wiping it off anyways?
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Me. I f***ing love having raindrops on my screen! I just HATE when it starts to interfere with it! Thanks Moto for that amazing feature, I can keep raindrops on my screen, and not even have to worry about it interfering at all!
[Atrix 4G General] Sir_Brizz:
F in "Reading Comprehension 101". (FYI I know what you're saying but nobody is complaining about multitouch here)

I have to wonder the same thing. I've NEVER had this kind of a problem on either of my old iPhones and they don't have some retarded raindrop sensor in them. I asked this question the last time this topic came up, who keeps raindrop on their screen for longer than 1 second? I think if you have water on your screen for that long, you have bigger problems than whether it detects them as touches.
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
So not only you want to question his habits, you want to question his lack of knowledge/interest in deving? Ive noticed, accompanying your threads, a certain trend in negativity towards questionings to the performance and quality of Motorola's products. Its healthy to value what you buy, but it isn't healthy to turn a blind eye to it's problems. Just saying.
[Atrix 4G General] FabricioGS:
+1. I have a PS3 for that.
[Atrix 4G General] Kraize:
I play Modern Combat 2 on my Atrix all the time and have had no problems...
[Atrix 4G General] RogerPodacter:
Exactly my point, not everyone lives in rainy climates. Waste of effort I think. Had anyone ever used a device and thought" damn if only this had rain detection". I doubt it.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Well, I have a Xbox, a PS3, an alienware pc and a Wii. But I can't carry them around. I can carry around a NDS or a NGP but unfortunately they can't make calls. And I don't like carrying much stuff with me. So yes, I'd be very, very glad if this rain protection feature would be turned off so I can enjoy my mobile gaming in peace.
[Atrix 4G General] mjharris65:
I agree that it's a total non-issue -- a "no-iss" -- if you will.

If the OP is as big of a gamer as he/she claims to be, then he/she would have researched which phones were made for "gamers," like Sony Ericsson's Xperia PLAY, which transcends exclusive carrier control. That is, AT&T sells this gaming phone.

Personally, I like to keep my work and my play separate, as I am prone to procrastination. I don't think I'm the only one who holds this preference since phones are often marketed towards specific audiences, such as business phones, gaming phones, media phones, etc. The Atrix was hardly marketed as gaming phone, so I don't sympathize with the complaint that it should be better for gaming.
[Atrix 4G General] Techcruncher:
I hate this bug, I cant play ANY emulator, and its SUCKS...

they didnt fix it in 2.3.4 either..

AGH
[Atrix 4G General] Sinful Animosity:
Well, there's nothing to fix if they don't consider it a bug! To Motorola, this is more of a feature.
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
I guess any well informed member is actually profoundly aware the Play is not the best phone, for gaming or otherwise. But do enlighten me... what do you use your Atrix for?
[Atrix 4G General] intruderii:
There seems to be a lot of hostility towards the OP. I think this is a valid issue to complain about. It effects a pretty big portion of users, including myself when playing Riptide. I think this raindrop feature has a net negative effect on the userbase. I doubt enough users leave saltwater on their screens to justify such a silly feature.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Thank you!
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
I play mario kart and I simply lift my thumb... And reapply.

Fixed
[Atrix 4G General] Cole28:
I hate this "feature" also. Makes some games a headache to play. Hopefully someone can figure out how to fix it or extend the time until it kicks in at least.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
@mjharris65

Yeah. So it's a "no-iss" but your solution is... getting a XPERIA PLAY? Lol?
[Atrix 4G General] mjharris65:
I had no idea the Xperia PLAY was a bad phone for gaming and for general usage. Perhaps my ignorance on the quality of the PLAY stems from my aversion towards the concept of a "gaming" phone. I can understand why there is demand for these types of phones, they just represent the very opposite of what I want out of a phone -- the very thing I strive to avoid. So, when I was skimming through news articles and blog entries and read about the "gaming" phone now on AT&T, I lost interest in the story by the time I read the first sentence if not before then. If I'm going to procrastinate, I'm sure as hell not going to spend my time reading reviews about a type of phone I not only have no interest in buying but also have a desire to avoid.

I've always been wary of video games, of being sucked in and losing perspective.

To answer your question: I use my phone as a planner, a schedule, a to-do list. I also use it to make note of an interesting idea that I would like to spend more time thinking about later, to make note of a quote from something I've been reading or from a conversation I had with someone, or to simply write what I'm thinking or feeling to clear and direct my thoughts, as typing on this device requires more effort and, therefore, exerts more limitations (along with the rules of grammar) on expression. Like having my brain pushed through a mold, forcing myself to write on the Atrix allows me to ride the spaghetti-noodle thought-train further than I would normally be able to.

I make and receive calls and text messages. I also check and respond to emails and engage in all the regular "online chores" that the data speeds on this phone allow me to perform without feeling like I'm wasting time.

I also use my phone as my alarm, my camera, and my timer to help me remember to take breaks. I also have a voracious appetite for news. I would say that news aggregating apps would fall under the entertainment category for me, along with the Nietzsche app and the Greek Mythology apps that I have.

Oh, and I almost forgot to enlighten you on one of my favorite uses: I use my phone to look at p0rn. It really helps me to release some tension and to relax, as do my binaural beats apps.

I hope I was specific enough to fully answer your question. I recognize that "online chores" is fairly broad, but paying bills, transfering funds, verifying facts, and indulging my curiosity on a specific topic are a few activities that perhaps fall under this category.

If you would like any more details on how I use my phone or if you have any questions, maybe regarding the type of p0rn I enjoy, feel free to ask.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Planner, camera, alarmer, timer, call receiver and text messager. I can see why you think the raindrop "feature" is a "no-iss".

But you said you don´t game at phones, that you don´t enjoy gaming. That´s fine, but we do. And the objetive of this topic is to alert gamers (not you) that might be attracted to the incredible Atrix 4G features for gaming: dual 1GHz core, high qhd res screen, high 1GB RAM, high battery life, Tegra market.

About the things the XPERIA PLAY lacks: all mentioned above.

Hopefully kind hearted devs will remove this raindrop protection "feature" from future custom roms.
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
lmfao, thats what i do. some people dont know how to lift their thumb and re-apply though so you have to think about them ;)
[Atrix 4G General] drock212:
I've played galaxy on fire pewpew and other games where one or two thumbs on constantly on the screen but because I don't hold my thumbs down on the same spot while playing (kinda have to move them around or I die in the games) I don't run into this issue ever

From unlocked/rooted GB Atrix
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
I have a problem with 2.3.4 that's really pissing the hell out of me.

Fruit Ninja stutters slicing multiple fruits while it was running smooth on 2.2.2. Anyone else having this problem? I have tested other Tegra games and they seem to run fine.

Can anyone with FN game confirm?
[Atrix 4G General] wintermute000:
mine runs fine
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
I have an Atrix for calling, texting, and using the web while away.

I use my desktop, laptop, XOOM, and Xbox 360 for gaming.

And my PS3 as a Blu-Ray player.....
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
Please share your setup! -

Which rom? Which kernel? etc.
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
the phone is meant to be able to be a mobile gaming platform. hence the nvidia chip in it. so i dont get all the smartass comments like get a 360. you cant carry a 360 on a plane, or in the car lol. or you cant relaxe in bed without having to look at the tv and such i guess? i like playing PS1 emulator on my phone, it would be lame on my laptop lol. i dont have much of a problem, im just sayin' :P

if you guys just text on it then just buy a regular phone and what not.

its not the "most powerful phone" for nothing right? ;)
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Problem is not lifting your thumb. Problem is doing it every 10s while playing a shooter or a racer.
[Atrix 4G General] aroca1978:
I don't agree

I have all the angry birds, Guerrilla Bob THD, Heavy Gunner, Monster Madness, MX Moto, Plants against zombies, Riptide GP, Samurai II Vengeance, Fast & Furious Adrenaline, and I enjoy playing all of them in my Atrix. All of them I can play perfectly.

I don't understand what is the problem.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
At least on AT&T Atrix (don´t know if you use a Bell or Orange Atrix) screen becomes unresponsive very often playing games like Guerrilla Bob THD. It´s like you are "locked" if you keep your fingers pressed on the screen on the same spot for a little while, like you just can´t move and just stays put there getting butchered. Same thing happens playing age of zombies, or emulating games like Mario Kart.

You can download an app called Phone Tester and do the multitouch test. After 15s touching the screen on the same spot the test is "done". From 4.1.83 till 4.5.91 the issue remains.
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
...and even tough you really extract a lot of value out of your phone, you could do all those things with a much cheaper device. My point here is, most people who do want do invest so much money in a cellphone do so for it's ability to do what others cannot. And that is most likely than not, gaming.
[Atrix 4G General] GoodFoot:
Are you claiming that the main reason people buy the Atrix is for gaming? On what source of information do you base this assumption?
[Atrix 4G General] Viamonte:
I just wouldnt spens so kuch money in a phone if i wasnt gonna explore every poasible form of use. Perhaps i value money too much, but i can certainly find cheaper options if dual core isnt needed.
[Atrix 4G General] h0mbre_au:
I haven't experienced this problem yet and I play games often however I don't think its fair to write off the people who are experiencing it as idiots or crybabys....
[Atrix 4G General] gachiennuocmam:
Try a game called Racing Moto then you will be ****ing mad.
[Atrix 4G General] TechRebel:
I have played several of those games and not experienced this issue.
[Atrix 4G General] omni_angel7:
Same issue as OP using psx4droid on themed CherryBlur 1.4d. Real problem. Thread doesn't need people flaming about their workarounds. We should indeed seek out an actual fix for those who have the problem. Be polite, guys... we are all a community.
[Atrix 4G General] smohk:
Know what your talking about. Sometimes things just stop responding n screen. REALLY screwed me up the first time it happened. Figured it out pretty quick after that.
[Atrix 4G General] akitten007:
Is there any fix for this problem? Any change that can be made in the framework for a custom rom? Motorola made the display look good, but play bad.
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
just do the multi touch hack.
[Atrix 4G General] leets4uc3:
All I have to say to.the op is Q_Q

Sent from my MB860
[Atrix 4G General] Nophix:
I game frequently on my Atrix with GB, and I've never had this happen. Either they fixed it, or it really isn't an issue.
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
What on earth are you on about? I have been playing games for ages and i have NEVER encountered any problem whatsoever with my Atrix...whether it be on FROYO or on Gingerbread and i intend to upgrade to CM7 very soon. This thread is not only misleading in ways (many users are not having ANY problem whatsoever) so i kindly request for somebody to close this thread please. Thank you.
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
This is exactly what i am saying. I can touch the screen for hours and move my fingers along the touch screen at the same time. Like i said, i am a HEAVY gamer and i play games like Guerilla Bob, Gun Bros, etc... for minutes/hours and that consists of firing while moving around the map. I usually level up over 3 times a day on Gun Bros and i am nearly done with the game.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
I'm not misleading anyone, and I'm not the only one experiencing this. But this could be an AT&T only thing.

If you would be kind enough to download an app called Phone Tester, run the multitouch test, and tell me how long you can keep your fingers pressed on the screen, on the same spot (that is, until the test recognizes the number of touches), I'd be very gratefull.

In my case the test runs for about 15s before disabling input and recognizing touches.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Please try the multitouch test from phone tester, and tell me your results. I'm also running GB and still experience this issue.
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
I have it. Doesn't solve it. But thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] lilhaiti:
Guys why are ya'll flaming the OP and any other person that has had this issue? Stop it, they are stating a legitimate gripe...if you haven't experienced the issue, congrats and move on. The community is for info and help, but it is really annoying to read through 9 pages of "you are stupid"...if a mod thought it was stupid, they would shut it down.

That being said, I too find this kinda annoying when playing GT Free+ HD. When holding down the "gas pedal" on a long straight away the screen will turn off that spot and you will have to lift and re-apply your finger. I have not bumped into this issue on any other game. It is a real issue with some games not all.
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
some people don't like to admit theres anything wrong with their phone and don't appreciate people saying otherwise. hopefully this can be turned off with the unlocked bootloader our maybe moto can give us the option like with the boot.
[Atrix 4G General] parsa5:
I can honestly say I have run into this problem as well. It's definitely real and can cause gamers real issues. Fortunately for me, I'm not much of a gamer.
[Atrix 4G General] JaronBang:
I have the same issue. The ability to turn it off would be great.
[Atrix 4G General] efishta:
Would this be something that could be fixed via cm7 or another aosp based rom or is it a low level (firmware/driver) setting?
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Dunno. Probably a modded kernel could solve it.
[Atrix 4G General] filthybadgerdog:
Why would you buy a cell phone for gaming? Annoying, maybe.... but but a xbox, ps3 or a game console for gaming.

My atrix sucks for writing massive amounts of code... but there is a dock.
[Atrix 4G General] filthybadgerdog:
But = buy.

See, this phone is aweful :)
[Atrix 4G General] nabicat:
-10 for that. My ps3, xbox360, and Wii are just not that much fun when killing time in a lineup or waiting for the wife at the mall. I find my 52" projection tv a real pita to carry around.
[Atrix 4G General] SolidHelix:
Most of us agree that this is a problem. But really, I don't think people bought this for gaming. The whole purpose of this phone was for use with the lapdock. At least that was the target consumers for motorola. IMO this device is for people who want to tinker and develop on the lapdock or modified webtop. And most people like that, aren't heavy gamers
[Atrix 4G General] nabicat:
I don't believe the op ever stated he bought the phone for gaming, however there is no denying that one of the more significant differentiators of this handset is the tegra 2 chipset and it's multimedia capabilities.

This raindrop"feature" ends up presenting a real hassle when trying to play any sort of game with a continuous key press.

What I don't get is why any one would jump into a thread around a feature they don't use and start berating others about why they use their phones the way that they do. You could make the same specious argument about any of the ancillary features the phone offers. "why would anyone use a phone as a laptop? Go buy a laptop." "Why would you want to use a phone as an mp3 player? Go buy a stereo!"
[Atrix 4G General] SolidHelix:
What constitutes heavy touchscreen use? I use mine ALL the time. Title should be changed as it only pertains to some games
[Atrix 4G General] shaitan667:
I was wondering why the accelerator kept dying in racing games :(
[Atrix 4G General] Devnant:
Thanks!

Yes, I didn´t say I bought Atrix just for gaming. I bought the device because of its many capabilities, being gaming a major one (not the only one). Also, TEGRA-2 is publicized by NVIDIA as a powerful console-quality gaming architecture (TEGRA MARKET only sells games after all).

For shooting photos, making calls and listening to music a duel-core phone doesn´t offer much more than a single-core phone. Honestly, I don´t get why people bought an ATRIX 4G if they are not gaming at all.