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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tun4f1sh:
Hence the "dont know what you're talking about" :) cheers
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] smokeuout:
i agree they need more tact when answering questions but im gonna need an example of how they copy other peoples work.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tsubus:
today the phone does not freeze when plugging in or overclocking. nothing has changed since yesterday, not the nightly build, not any of the apps installed. no clue what it was. if it happens again i'll let you know.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jmwils3:
they dont. there was ONE incident MONTHS ago with the devs of mexdroid accusing them of stealing their work, but they didnt. The scripts they use are their own creations, they compile their own rom from cm source, and anything they've used from others was with full permission and credit given.

On topic: I love this kernel on the latest nightly, but Im having a bit of an issue keeping it connected to wifi. Trying to get a logcat to see what might be causing it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sparksco:
Still waiting. All my scripts are on my github in my sig. Show me the proof!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
Well I ended up quitting on the kernel because it would randomly freeze while using Go SMS. Ran it for two days and had that problem nearly every time I tried to use it. I tried wiping cache and such, but that didn't seem to help. Shame too, because this thing is blazing! I'm running meXdroidMod Pre-GhostChili.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deaththeorist:
mexdroid is considered AOSP?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tsubus:
It's compatible with any AOSP theoretically, so it should be compatible. You should still probably move to nightlies anyway ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Its based off CM7
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Explosive:
I also encountered the same problem... Go SMS + Freezing

<--- Miui 1.7.22 + Kernal 1.03
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Cayniarb:
It's strange that some particular app would have issues with a kernel. If this happens again, try to get a kmsg so I can try to find the cause.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mike102871:
Breaks wifi on G2 t-mobile leaked GB.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mike96789:
Wifi calling is also garbled on miui here. But the kernel is smooth and fast.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] stumpyz9:
Hell yah check this out

http://db.tt/tXCY4uK

That's only at 1.7ghz ,that's insane!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Whippler said in MIUI Osi thread:

Any chance for an FM radio fix? Since it apparently is a kernel issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kevin001111:
My G2 running MIUI 1.7.22 doesnt lock up at 2.03GHz, but the quadrant scores do go down.... I got 1680 at 2.03GHz.... and then 1700 at 1.8GHz. ????? Those numbers are LOW
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tsubus:
I really like this kernel, but my cpu is not able to handle the higher frequencies, they are a little too uv'd I think. What would be the easiest way to increase the voltages?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Guys try running quadrant 5 times in a row and just look at how much the score will fluctuate... poor poor representation of a benchmark for a smart phone.

I did it just the other day with this kernel and ranged from 1,700 all the way to 3,900...same cpu frequency of 1.4
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lymsaga:
I love this kernel！！！！
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whippler:
theres the new governor scary popping out, looks interesting, could it be added to next release?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tsubus:
edited since 1.0.4 will include vipermod
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Vipermod? Please elaborate lol never heard of it
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] imanoob:
1. I was able to get every frequency up to 883200 to 700 using vipermod, but the next frequency, 960000, I had to use 975, because the phone would freeze. Now my questions are:

1. Can I make it lower than 700? Is it safe?

2. Should I leave 883200 as the min, because every othe frequenct below that uses same amount of power?

Thank you for this amazing kernel I am using it with miui.us rom and it is working great.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] imanoob:
Vipermod is a script that you can run on your phone which you can use to undervolt.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] stumpyz9:
Just flashed 1.0.4 and can now get all the way up to 2ghz with no problems at all but with all clock speeds I'm seeing reduced scores in quadrant and linpack. Seems weird
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mazta132:
I just upgraded to miui.us.us 1.7.29 then install tiamat 1.0.4. After that looks ok & quadrant ok. But somehow when I left my phone to download a game with wifi never sleep, I found my phone blackout. Then I unpluged the batery & pluged it again. Now it's ok.

Then I try to install nova 2 hd, the phone rebooted when the game is hanging.

I don't know why but I'm still monitor. I really like combination between miui.us & tiamat.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cpom1:
I find that im going through battery life a whole lot quicker...im not sure if its the new nightly or the kernel...anyone have any suggestions on settings?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] isikh:
How's battery life on this, in general, when compared to Pershoot kernels? I'm not familiar with Tiamat, hence why I ask.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cpom1:
Honestly, Pershoots battery life is better.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] isikh:
Okay awesome - that's what I needed to know. I'm sure this kernel is great+great battery life, but I'd rather use the kernel giving me the best battery life, whilst performing well. In india, i was able to leave my g2 on standby for 3+ days without a charge, and it was a pershoot kernel. I wasn't sure if this one was better. Thanks again!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jmpcrx:
sorry if this is a stupid question, but does this only work with MIUI roms?

im using Synergy rc2, with virtuous sense 3.1.0 kernal..

thanks..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Whippler:
should work just fine whit every AOSP roms

EDIT: PLZ read the First post
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lainvalenajr:
Mostly likely will break some things, since its sense. Miui and Cm7 should work perfectly or anything that was built on bases of CM7. Well that's what I know about sense base roms
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jandyman:
hhhmmm im considering switching to this from umaroKernal as i believe this is undervolted more and im trying to get the best out of battery. Im going to download and test now and check how performance compares.

One major this which might win it for umaro is the scary governer, its my favourite governer i find it well smooth with great performance and it stays at low frequencies alot more than smartass,

EDIT: Okay iv benchmarked both and with umaros at 800mhz smartass I got 2461.

With this kernal at the same settings I get 2172 best :)

Its very interesting though that on umarokernal at 1.9 I get full freezups and its unusable.But on this it seems to run reasonabily stable (for the short time I tested) on the maz 2ghz freq . .which is amazing :) still miss scarey though :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheUndertaker21:
well it forces my phone to reboot everytime on MIUI

oh well
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] d0nat0:
solid

this is solid on cm7 nightlies for me. max 1.8 min 800, and no stability issues for 3 days.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jandyman:
Works fine for me on latest miui. Except I don't get majorly great battery. Have to charge it once or twice in a day.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Cayniarb:
It doesn't only work on MIUI. It only works on AOSP-based ROMs. No Sense.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philosophics:
Won't download the full file for me. Just a 38kb piece. Guess I'll have to wait until I can update from 1.0.4

Sent from me CM7 Nightly HTC Vision using XDA App that needs to show signatures
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Is the link broken for the vision one? I keep getting a 37.8kb file
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Beat me to it
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philosophics:
So I just tried 1.1.0 on a G2 and an Inspire 4G (Vision and Ace)

As soon as the devices boot to the lock screens, they freeze up. This is at default speeds. Reverting back to 1.0.4 due to the problems. Hope you get them resolved...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jandyman:
Booted fine for me. I downloaded checked md5 sum using astro and I'm running it as I type :) no freeze or anything so far.

First testing: On stock speed according to antutu benchmark (much more constand then quadrant) performance is about the same as umarokernal. Only thing is that the mA being used when the screen is on low brightness (nothing in background) at stock speeds seems very high . . 253+ and considering nothn is going on that's most likely sitting at minimun frequency.

Is this a normal measurement considering the kernal is undervolted? (Also testing 2ghz for a few minutes with no problems, cpu stress tested it also)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Anyone got a mirror? Can't get it to download through the website
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MacaronyMax:
Why would you need min the same speed as stock max? That's mental for daily :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
You can also simply just choose the performance governor which does the same thing as setting the min ridiculously high.

Anyway, the kernel seems to be running fine for me on the latest nightly. All radios work and no unusual current draw so far (12 hours) using the Interactive governor. Switching to Smartass now to see if there's any problems there.

I've uploaded a copy to mediafire but they didn't provide an md5 sum so it's not verifiable.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4i82ne88a21qwbq
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MacaronyMax:
Hahah yeah , but apparently that's too slow :rolleyes: :p

Thanks for the link also :D kept getting corrupt download from their site, also that looks a bit like an md5 in the name probably not but maybe :D. :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EfemaN:
Yesterday, I grabbed that rooted 2.3.4 ROM and then decided to try out a new kernel as well. Popped in Tiamat's, everything seemed dandy; I set it at ~1100Mhz (screen on profile at 345-1113) on smartass. I had two random lockups just last night; once where I received a text, I went to turn the screen on (screen off profile set at 345-345), the capacitive button lights came on but no screen and no response to anything else. It took two battery pulls to get it back; same thing happened an hour or so later, and once again this morning (when I had set the max to 1267).

That was all after doing a superwipe before installing the new ROM, radio, kernel. I'm going to keep using it today at work and see if it happens again. Does anyone have any ideas? I suppose my chip may have trouble OCing at all, but this small of an OC would surprise me, especially since it handled ~1GHz on the CM7 kernel for months at a time.

UPDATE: It happened again just as I was walking away... woke the phone and it froze at the lock screen. Pulled battery, drained any remaining charge, started back up, got into home page, and locked again. I don't have time to flash another kernel, so I'll see if running without any Setcpu profiles fixed anything.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kenzy-FIN:
"That rooted 2.3.4 ROM" = HTC's Sense-rom? It's not a surprise if you face problems with Tiamat, because it's meant to be used only with AOSP roms, as you can read from the topic of this thread also.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
It might simply be that your CPU can OC just fine but can't undervolt as much as the Tiamat kernel does.

The new version says it has Vipermod support which I think is supposed to allow you to edit your voltage levels. See if that helps.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheUndertaker21:
Yeah it freezes a lot and rebooting a lot too

This sucks since it ran really smooth on my phone

I hope they fix all the rebooting and freezing

I'm on MIUI btw
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MacaronyMax:
Can't seem to beat my quadrant of 4200 with this kernel however it is pretty speedy :D nice kernel ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Cayniarb:
That *is* the md5sum in the file name. Not sure what the issue is with the host, but I'm looking into it. The problem only seems to be happening for mobile downloads though (not computers).

It's also in Kernel Manager, so you can get it there as well.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Thank you for the mirror
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EfemaN:
An update on my situation. After turning off all SetCPU on-boot settings and profiles, the phone ran all day without issue. Of course, nearly all of it consisted of the phone sitting in a drawer at work, but the freezing happened after like 9 hours of sleeping this morning. I don't know if the profiles are the culprit; it's not changing voltages, AFAIK, so the CPU scaling should be just fine. I'll run without any SetCPU settings until I can possibly find a solution.

Nah, I don't run Sense ROMs. I made sure this was AOSP :) I was talking about this ROM, realized later that I was pretty vague...

That's not a bad idea. Though I'd hate to up the voltage more than it needs to...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kenzy-FIN:
I've had some problems with several kernels if going under 200MHz in idle. Especially in GPS use, when the display turns off, the phone will randomly boot itself. Using clock speeds over 200MHz helps. I'm now on 268/499/883 and conservative governor. Works flawlessly with the latest MIUI. Desire Z has been off from the charger for 48 hours now, 19% of battery left.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philosophics:
I just flashed the vipermod script and raised voltage by 25. Everything seems to be running smoothly now. In fact, things are more snappy and I like it!

Guessin the default undervolt settings were my problem. Only time will tell...

Don't worry if vipermod screams at you about vision not being a supported device. It worked for me...

Sent from me CM7 Nightly HTC Vision using XDA App that needs to show signatures
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Where did you dl vipermod from? Tried to get it off timat dev but the link is broken.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dargocitfer:
The official release ROM from T-Mobile isn't an AOSP ROM either. It might be close, but it's got a bunch of changes under the hood. If I remember correctly, the Cyanogenmod team said that there were still a number of "Sense" components lurking in the stock G2 ROM. (This was regarding the original, but I imagine the same is true of the updates.)

Although the kernel might run, you'll experience random lock ups, as well as problems with Wi-Fi, or Bluetooth, and possibly even Video playback.

As far as I have been able to tell, there is no stable O/C Kernel for the stock 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 ROMs yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
Can't you download it from here?

http://vipermod.tiamat-dev.com/downloads.php

Downloads fine with Opera Mobile anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philosophics:
That's where I got it...

Sent from me CM7 Nightly HTC Vision using XDA App that needs to show signatures
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtmaster303:
Running CM nightlies...

The kernel is fairly stable. I actually had to try to get it to freeze up on me. OCed all the way to 2.03 GHz!!

but to be honest, i don't really see any gains in performance vs the stock CM kernel. My quadrant scores on this kernel were actually lower than CM (2.03GHz vs. 1.5GHz respectively)

I think this kernel is simply for bragging rights. And to use your phone as a heater, just in case it's cold outside :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Yep thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
More likely than not, although your phone doesn't hard lock at 2GHz, it's encountering errors that slow operation down. It may also be throttling itself when it can't handle it.

A similar effect can be found when video card overclocking and it's always advisable to actually test if performance improved because of this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Very true. Even with overclocking the CPU...u always stress test after because if its not completely stable, you might actually lose performance than if you were stable at a lower clock.

The average user sees a higher clock speed and assumes if they run it...its going to be faster. This is not always the case.

The average user thinks that running a quadrant test one pass gives a dead accurate representation of their phones performance. Those of us who have tested it know that you can run it ten times and see your fluctuate 1000 points or more. Not a very good test if you ask me.

This kernel is acting odd on my phone. Dont know why but my phone gets sluggish often.....almost like the cpu frequency is being held down at the minimum and wont scale up. Ive tried smartass and interactive. Then there is the heat issue...why my phone is so warm when its screen is off beats me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheUndertaker21:
anyone having trouble with the latest version

it says "installation bad aborted" something like that :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
Did you get the entire file? A lot of people seem to be having trouble downloading the first (I think it's with the stock Android browser and the browsers that derive from it like Dolphin).

I seem to be running just fine using the Smartass governor. So far everything works and no hard locks. I know better than to think there's a massive battery life difference but I wanted to try out Smartass.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jandyman:
Tested battery. Unfortunatly I had problems with battery drain being bad, and I had it at stock speeds AND on conservative, even though apparantly its greatly undervolted maybe its not working right on my fone. Because on umarkernal which admits its undervolting is minimal I get much battery life. Even in standby :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mike102871:
My wifi is broken with this kernel. Did i miss something?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] captainreynolds:
What ROM are you running? It may help diagnose the problem - I don't believe this works perfectly with the latest gingerbread OTA update on the G2.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] captainreynolds:
There we go right there! I apologize for the double post, using my phone here.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mike102871:
Yes, Im running the ota rooted 2.3.4 . I didnt test everying, but only noticedwifi being broken.

Oh how i miss oc this phone since froyo. Iwas on 2.3.3
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
I think someone mentioned how the OTA isn't quite an AOSP build. This probably is the reason why it's not working.

I think you'll have to use CM7 or MIUI or a true AOSP rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] captainreynolds:
I believe pershoots kernels (oc neon) may work with stock gingerbread rooted. I am running the ota rooted 2.3.4 and plan to test this soon. Someone mentioned to me that they had been running that kernel with no problems on their ota rooted g2. I will test it out when I get back home and report back
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Redownload and re-install might be a bad download. Happened to me
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EfemaN:
Ahh, that makes sense. I realized earlier that this broke my wifi too. So far it's running dandy without any profiles, but I may just grab the CM7 kernel again. Anyone know where I can grab just the kernel? I couldn't find anything searching for it or just straight up pershoot's.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
Seems to be working in the cm7.1 nightlies which are AOSP as mentioned.

Smartass governor is turning out to be very satisfactory. I never liked the way OnDemand and Interactive spends all its time either pegged at max speed or min speed and never appreciably used the frequencies in between.

Smartass still spends the most time at min speed but uses all the speed levels.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] F033x:
Latest build isnt working on miui 1.8.12, ive downloaded it twice so im assuming its not a partial download issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philosophics:
I've grown tired of 1.1.0

Everytime my phone dies or needs to reboot, it freezes as soon as the device gets to the lockscreen. I have to then pull the battery, boot into recovery, flash 1.0.4, reboot, underclock down to lower then stock speed, reboot into recovery, flash 1.1.0, reboot, raise voltage by 25 with vipermod and then put the clock speeds back up to defaults.

As you can see, this is a pain. I will wait until next version comes out and stay on 1.0.4 until then...

Sent from me CM7 Nightly HTC Vision using XDA App that needs to show signatures
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
It does seem they've set the stock voltages too low. Hopefully they'll realize that for the next release.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lalalandrus:
fyi alternative to viper mod - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1199472

my voltage table is even lower than stock and it works fine i guess each phone is different. however, i dont think the voltages are the source of the crash, i have a similar issue before with tiamat 1.04.

i had to wipe cache again and ensure that the screen off freq was 300k or higher before the kernel would behave.

STOCK FROM TIAMAT HEAD END SOURCE TREE

24576, 850mv
61440, 900mv
122880, 900mv
184320, 900mv
192000, 850mv
268800, 850mv
345600, 875mv
422400, 900mv
499200, 900mv
576000, 925mv
652800, 950mv
729600, 950mv
806400, 975mv
883200, 975mv
960000, 1000mv
1036800, 1000mv
1113600, 1025mv
1190400, 1050mv
1267200, 1050mv
1344000, 1100mv
1420800, 1150mv
1497600, 1200mv
1574400, 1250mv
1612800, 1300mv
1728000, 1350mv
1804800, 1400mv
1881600, 1450mv
1958400, 1475mv
2035200, 1475mv

Personal VTABLE

24576, 775mV
61440, 775mV
122880, 800mV
184320, 800mV
192000, 800mv
268800, 825mV
345600, 850mV
422400, 875mv
499200, 875mv
576000, 900mv
652800, 925mv
729600, 925mv
806400, 950mv
883200, 975mv
960000, 975mv
1036800, 975mv
stock above as i dont use freqs

what i did notice is that even with significant undervoltage, the battery drain is much higher than 1.04, is anyone else observing this?

other people are mentioning it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1180082&page=4
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jandyman:
Thanks a bunch for your voltage table :D saved me a lot of time experimenting. Also thanks for the vipermod alternative iv been looking for an app like that for agggges. Just changed my voltage table to one similiar to yours and its working perfect so far and hopefully it'll save me a nice bit of battery also XD (as with you iv never had stability problems with stock table or this one)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KCRic:
I checked my voltages today while using vipermod and using CPU Spy (monitors TIS, or rather, time spent at each clock state). I noticed the anomaly I highlighted in red on the voltage table you posted. Why is the kernel voltage set to go up when in deep sleep? In fact, that voltage is the same as sitting at 499MHz constantly. Mine are even higher (@184MHz I'm using 925mv :confused:).

Given that, you're almost better off keeping the phone awake all the time. I understand keeping the voltages AOSP but I highly doubt in deep sleep the voltages go up - it's illogical. Thankfully we have ways of dealing with this but it does need to be corrected in the next update.

Anyone have the voltage tables from 1.04 to compare?