yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
you first, then me Haus :)

*********************************

as someone who votes for a living,

and has been promised entitlements for life,

not having S-OFF in my evo 3d thingy right now

calls for massive protests, strikes, walk outs,

slow downs (oh wait - that's our normal day)

and a fistful of acorns ...

oh wait - that's not me - i work for a living - nevermind

he who *****es the loudest -

OK you take charge -

and let's see what you can do ...

if you can't create the is,

then it is what it is -

and you just have to wait ...

i've always appreciated what you can learn from the xda community,

the devs, and the people that like to pay it forward, which i try to do ...

keep on keep on !

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dual-boot is interesting ...

@k2buckley - stock speed is awesome - oc to 1800 even more so -

you'll burn it up going any faster !
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Gladly, when can I start? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
+1

although i was a CWM fanboy since unrevoked 3.2.1 (august 2010)

until the giant fubar with 3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 upgrade (blocks, etc.)

so i bought amon_ra some red bull

and have a big post it reminder -

never use .0 when it comes to recovery
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
I dont like CWM recovery, I have always used sdx recovery. But I will look at Amon if its different then CWM. Once kernel source is released I will most likely port my transform recovery unless I like the Amon recovery.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Someone has to port amonra... He's already said he isn't going to support the E3D. I can't blame him...
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
What are you, dyslexic?
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
...uhh, what?
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
It's very well known that Amon has been more reliable in wiping than clockwork, at least on the OG evo
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Gonna have to do some splainin Lucy!
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
My previous post explained his comment I believe
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Hm. That's not quite what I remember hearing on the Heroc forums. But ay, what can I say, I was the guy that always manually formatted each partition even after the wipe anyway.

Can Amon create the proper Ext partition for Data2Ext mods?
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
Yep. Been doing that forever.
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
my bad. I didn't think dyslexic needed an explanation. On the evo, AmonRa has always been the most reliable at wiping. It was well known that CWM wiping failed alot.

Didn't mean to start a huge conversation, my statement was a quote from Stephen Lynch and it just so happen to apply.
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
At least I got what you meant haha. I'm so happy we are on the home stretch now.
[HTC EVO 3D] klbjr:
Sounds like exciting news but I thought we were gonna need more than just S-Off with the 3D. Remember reading somewhere that something had to be done to the eMMc/nand also before we were able to flash ROMS & the such? Anyway great news & great work!
[HTC EVO 3D] ballr4lyf:
Instead of asking for an ETA, how about we pool when it will be publicly distributed. I'm going for within the next 24 hours. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
Well either way rooting my og EVO through unrevoked was a cake walk compared to my g1 so I'm excited that there might be a similar method. I'm sure they will want to make it as newb friendly as possible
[HTC EVO 3D] DXL XLR8:
AlphaREV you guys rock!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
/me just peed a little.

BANG! from my shooter...
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
BONG!!!!

hurry up so we can play :)
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
Reading twitter and all the drama on there it sounds like they have had it for awhile now for the 3D but have yet to share it.So wish all dev's worked together on things but owell lets hope they share the 3D they got soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] zeks:
Great tuesday for me so far! First I'm headed to Six Flags (and just read on twitter @sophiedee will be there too! lol) and now I'm reading this!?!? Let's just hope I can have s-off on my device by this evening ;) You guys rock!
[HTC EVO 3D] cody_cummins:
Cant wait!!!

Sent from my Dual Core HTC 3vo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
I'm excited for release

Can s-off come out and play? You run but you can't hide
[HTC EVO 3D] firsttimer44:
I believe "ship" s off which is shown in the picture is completely different than what you think
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Its a good thing my on screen keyboard doesn't have an f5 key or I would probably wear out the digitizer today...
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
What are you talking about? That is an s-off exploit that was posted by an alpha rev member

Can s-off come out and play? You run but you can't hide
[HTC EVO 3D] danaff37:
In the you tube video, you can see they changed the initial splash screen and there is no way to do that without a real s off and security for the

emmc turned off.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Exactly flashing anything including the splash screen means you have total control.

Can s-off come out and play? You run but you can't hide
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Good!!! It is still early for the s- off to be released for the sake of releasing it. I would rather wait for a safe way to do it..what good is a s-off if your phone is bricked..first for the sensation then for 3vo..it is wishful to ask for a eta...I would like one also...but ****...let them prefect the method so it does work on a mass scale...this requires a little bit of time..good work to ALL the teams. And we had others say 'um the developers left'...left my ass...this just tells you the games are about to begin and folks...we will have a blast..2 ideas I would like to share. 1. We are selfish bastards for demanding a eta...let them work....they will release when they are ready. 2. Any criticts out there that says no development is being done or they left....they never left ladies and gentlemen....they where waiting for this like the rest of us. Let them get the glory..who ever gets it....I will today go out with a smile during the day...the reds will seem redder...the blues bluer and the sunshine of freedom rings for our beloved phones...the sensation and hopefully evo 3d.....
[HTC EVO 3D] rockypr:
AlphaRev was working quietly on this, nice work guys, lots of donations coming when they release this, this community is very grateful.
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
That's not good....Sucks if they're not gonna share :(
[HTC EVO 3D] :
What sucks even more is how they went in the dark about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] guitardoc64:
LOL! get some depends! I'm just glad to see progress!!
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I very much know what dyslexia is, but no, it doesn't apply to me, because I had a

Hero

, not an Evo, and I distinctly remember both hearing and experiencing that CWM wipes better than Amon Ra. Besides, on a feature level, I remember that flashing a zip on Amon Ra (for a while) required the zip to be on the root of the SD card, whereas Clockwork let you look through your SD card for any zips. I'm sure that's changed by now, but that's one of the reasons I stuck with Clockwork. After that, I didn't really care as much, all my zips were edified anyway, so I saw no reason or benefit to switch.
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
FYI that has changed on Amon, you can look at all folders now
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
Sorry for the confusion, I figured everyone would be on the same page since we ARE talking about an Evo. But anyway, you can pick a zip from anywhere on ur SD with Amon. As far as I know, they are the same other than Amon doesn't work well with Rom Manager and CWM has the wiping issues. But I cannot speak on behalf of the Hero as I had an Iphone before my Evo and now Evo3d. And I will never go back to the iphone, even though I used it on Tmobile, which was way better than ATT.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Don't get me wrong, I'll use whatever we get on the E3D, Amon, CW, or otherwise. Someone just asked the difference and I shared my experience. Stuff has obviously changed since I last changed recoveries :P
[HTC EVO 3D] firemedic1343:
CW wasn't bad for Evo, sometimes you'd just have to double wipe or even triple wipe, standard bathroom procedure when using the 3 shells. But with AmonRa you only needed to wipe once. They were both nice, but I stuck with AmonRa as CW gave me some issues early on.
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
I would LOVE to have AmonRa on the EVO 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] X-Kenshin-X:
so did they ever release this method or just a video to make us foam at the mouth??

i ahven't been able to restore anything from Titanium Backup... >_<
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
actually the video wasn't even supposed to be released. Im sure they are working very hard to get this too us. I know we all get a little impatient, but im sure they will be there soon. I, for one, will be donating the day it gets released.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Calkulin's-format-all.zip ftw
[HTC EVO 3D] twiz0r:
But what if you just want to wipe cache and dalvik? Just saying. But yes, the format all zip had a permanent place on my sd
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
In before someone mentions that retarded Superwipe.zip from the Evo4G forum.

Sent from my 3DeeVo
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
then you just ain't that hardcore.
[HTC EVO 3D] GabrielSousa:
dude !!!!! nice PIC

LOL HARDCORE !!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I have to politely disagree on that one mazook. VRsuperwipe worked great for me. Used it the last 3 months I had the Evo and never had a problem with it. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
I used Caulkin's Wipe all zip file, never had any problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Of COURSE it worked. It basically was a kang of Calkulin's script that ran 3 times, one after another, which is absolutely freaking pointless. What was ever wrong with the initial script that worked perfectly!?

ANSWER:

Nothing was.

Made zero sense.

Sent from my 3DeeVo
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
I loved wiping multiple times, I format my hard drive 5 times before installing windows too
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
used VR's superwipe all the time never had any troubles
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
<<not sure if serious>>
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
thats why I preferred amon ra on my evo, cwm fosters bad habits...
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Didn't say there was anything wrong with it there little buddy. People like options, and for me, I preferred Virus'. Take it for what it's worth. Don't think you really need to call out a program or script that somebody wrote for us to use useless or retarded.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Maybe you're right..Maybe there isn't anything pointless about doing the same thing three times when once is sufficient. I'll keep that in consideration.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
I see what you did there.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
I don't know what you mean...
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Yea. That was pretty mature. Moving on........
[HTC EVO 3D] welrope:
he done did died?
[HTC EVO 3D] ktulu909:
Thats theres funny,I dont care who you are
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Yeah, sorry, but that's EXACTLY what I thought the first time I opened that .zip.

Okay, moving on, agreed.

Sent from my 3DeeVo

Sent from my 3DeeVo

Sent from my 3DeeVo
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Lol. Immature? Sure. Hilarious? for certain.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
And I'm usually "that guy" that *****es about long signatures. NOW look what you've guys done to me..

Lol.

(Thanks, though...!!!)

Sent from my 3DeeVo

Sent from my 3DeeVo

Sent from my 3DeeVo

(VR_SUPERSIG)
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
El ay double-ewe el
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Actually, you're doing it wrong. VR superwipe was 5x's. If you're going to do it, atleast do it right. I can see you are a rookie at this. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] wbchristmas:
No kidding
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
The one I used was 3x...
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Just messing with him. Lol. I couldn't come up with anything as funny as he did :/
[HTC EVO 3D] n2ishun:
I like peanut butter ?!?
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Clockwork was fine...but amon saved my hide a few times when my wi-max keys where hosed...clockwork never did that for me...
[HTC EVO 3D] pierre1321:
3 shells, that's funny

It's cheezy, but I still like watching Demolition Man every once in a while.
[HTC EVO 3D] sparhawk6:
Well, our ADD minds are losing interest in this supposed S-off solution. Sadly, it meant that probably many other developers stopped their own efforts at finding a solution. I guess if we have to wait long enough, those developers will jump back on the horse.
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
Hopefully the other devs are still working on their project, nothing wrong with more than one solution.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Its been stated multiple times that this is the case.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I don't think anyone has lost interest, its just that the entitled naysayers seem to have left the thread; the rest of us are just patiently waiting as thats all we can do at this point. All the off topic business is just to keep this thread on a more positive note than where it was for most of yesterday afternoon and evening.
[HTC EVO 3D] sparhawk6:
agrabren tweeted that due to AlphaRev's hack, Fre3Dom development is over
[HTC EVO 3D] jackpearce:
On a different note...

A heat wave has been found to be the cause of 20 deaths recently. The heat wave is asking for a Florida jury.

Now back to your regularly scheduled flaming....
[HTC EVO 3D] Mexiking10:
Yes, but dragonfyre (I believe) said he would continue to look into getting S-Off in his own way because it was different from that of ARX
[HTC EVO 3D] T3hPWN:
2 is better than 1 :D
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
fwiw the difference between the two ...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14545815&postcount=4982

{June 8, 2011}

for infomational purposes...

here is what VR_superwipe does:

wipes cache

wipes dalvik-cache

wipes data (x3)

wipes .android_secure

wipes boot (x3)

wipes system (x3)

wipes battery stats

VR_Superwipe.zip is literally Calkulin's Clear Temp + (Calkulin's Format All x3) line for line.
[HTC EVO 3D] wbchristmas:
You got that right!! :p
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
Slower lol? My phone isn't slow, at all, especially compared to this device, which I tested for hours. They are the same device, except yours had "3d" lol and small little bump of ram more. Sure our sense is slower stock compared to your stock because yours is more updated than ours, but to call it slow is just stupid. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Exactly.

It's not only copied, it's redundant.

Why clear caches, only to follow up with a format of the same partition?

The Clear Temp script was meant to do exactly that.

There's no reason whatsoever to add the Format All script on the end.

They have completely different purposes.

Sent from my 3DeeVo

Sent from my 3DeeVo

Sent from my 3DeeVo

(VR_SUPERSIG)
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
I didn't call it slow, I said it was slower due to having less RAM. Not to take anything away from it.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Actually the Sensation bests the Evo3D in most benchmarks for some bewildering reason.

...my theory is that it has slightly more aggressive memory management/garbage collection to compensate for the slight difference in RAM.

EDIT: benchmarks are also nearly worthless for gauging real world performance, so, grain of salt, etc etc etc
[HTC EVO 3D] pierre1321:
This is correct, personally I'm waiting to see where Dragonfyre is going.

There's more than 1 way to skin a goat. I'm not saying the more the merrier, just sayin it would be nice to have a backup plan.

As we all know, each of our phones don't react the same, even though they should.

If they did, there would only be 1 guide for everything.

And fre3vo itself has been stopped, not the search for a more stable form of root.
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
I missed the bolded post. Thank you. Now please stop the childish name calling and belittling, it helps nothing.

I thought, based off all the speculation and bs posts, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15785869&postcount=1 = http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15850372&postcount=1

I was wrong and I apologize to the OP.

Alpha, please take what ever time you need to do what you need to, but please keep us informed like TeamWin did if you plan on releasing this... it eliminates so much confusion and bs posts :o If not, please say so, I'm tired to looking in this thread to see a legit post and reading nothing but crap. TWIA
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
Roumer is Sunday release of alpha for the sensation. Sry if this has been posted, i am on the road

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sensation-Devs/183923815003272?sk=wall
[HTC EVO 3D] netwokz:
I hope this will happen on Sunday. And I really hope the 3D version will follow. If there is a need for different versions.

Sent from another dimension!
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
Crazy how they're sitting on this. If it's to make it bug-free and easy to do then I'm all for it. But if it's for any other reason then that's just fukt up! :rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
If I may ask, why does alpharev owe you or anyone else anything? They don't. Just be thankful that an exploit to gain S-OFF was found. Let them do their thing, be patient and don't question it.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigfoottrucker:
Wow. Next on Coast to Coast am, George Norry talks about the conspiracy of the s-off hacks. Are the Men in back and shadow men secretly holding it up? Also, are the royals really descended from alien crash survivors?
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
that would be nice !

but couldn't someone take the sensation version and make it work on the e3d ?
[HTC EVO 3D] netwokz:
Lol, agrabren? That would be classic....

Sent from another dimension!
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
I have been hanging out on the IRC rooms with alpharev. They aren't just sitting on this, they are trying to make it as bug free as possible. Remember, when your dealing with this kinda stuff, you take the chance of bricking your phone. If they don't make sure all the kinks are out, there will be alot of upset people that have bricked phones and no warranty. Just wait patiently, I suspect it won't be much longer.
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
Simma down over there, lap dog. No one is giving you brownie points to kiss @ss.
[HTC EVO 3D] rejectedkid:
+1
[HTC EVO 3D] nuprotocol:
Exactly...! These attitudes are just as worse.
[HTC EVO 3D] frevreagle:
the people who understand the application release process are the ones who are making it worse........ ur right, its not the 50 troll posts per 1 post of actuall information. You idiots make me sick.

All im doing is passing on more information and hoping to enlighten people to the process that devs go through. Maybe they should just release it, then it brick ur phone. Then who will you complain to?

Lets mature past puberty here.
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
+1 yea yea
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
We need a person who wants to sit on IRC all day and decipher their information. Operation S-OFF IRC recon commence!
[HTC EVO 3D] jackpearce:
Which irc channel do they hang out in?

*thanks erikivy*
[HTC EVO 3D] erikivy:
#alpharevx
[HTC EVO 3D] tomp517:
CheezeNut. U a fag. U act like a little girl.
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
aww did i make a kiddie wet his diaper ?
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
Looks like you gotta fan, Cheesy.....<<<wave>>>
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
Please just let it go.. you clog this thread with more **** than anyone. Just read and stop with the damn pictures. Which I'm sure there is one coming following this post.

Seriously people, we all know that its slow in here today but all this is turning into is a flame war. Get over it and hopefully we get our s-off soon!

Cheers
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
#alpharev is what im on
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
WooOOT

no pic ... just a /point and LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
I think he mad...
[HTC EVO 3D] iliapiano:
thank you, man
[HTC EVO 3D] maxawesome:
I heard they only chat in Dothraki in IRC. And then they code in Klingon with a sweet cross-compiler.
[HTC EVO 3D] LouRock:
Maybe some of these Dev's have been reading up on threads like this thought to themselves why hurry up when there's so much entertainment going on.

I can imagine some of these Dev's at home after a longs day at work sitting at their computer, drinking a beer just having a field day with some of these post on threads like this.

I'm just as exited as anyone else and I wish s-off came tomorrow. However, we need to realize this **** takes time so lets let these cats do what they do and relax. The damn device has not even been out for a full month and some people are acting like 5 year olds on Christmas eve. :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
Christmas was last month when I pick up this beast of a phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
Not sure if it is just me but if they have had s-off for awhile now and days seem to keep going on and on why no release?

I mean i understand testing and stuff but i really would save a bunch of money if i could root this thing this weekend.I use my EVO yet because i need a phone i can go in and do recovery's on them.

Again i understand they do not even have to release it but i am trying to figure out what is taking so long if they have s-off.

I have not even read any updates its like here is a picture now f-off
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
I posted this earlier in this thread, but am going to use it again. I just copied and pasted it. It was originally directed at someone else, but I'm feeling lazy and don't want to edit it at all.

Also, it was stated numerous times that posting that youtube vid was a mistake, and was never meant to be public. Meaning that we aren't even really supposed to know about it yet. And the reason for that is because it's not finished yet, and they didn't want to have a bunch of impatient people asking for eta's and whining 'why isn't it done yet', 'why doesn't my phone say S-off yet, even though I don't even know what that really means.'

How in the hell do you know they have "gold"? Just because you saw the Damn YouTube vid? Wtf does that mean? How do you know that the process doesn't brick 50% of the phones, and they are ironing out the problems? What the hell is it with everyone in here thinking that they are entitled? I'm positive that when things are deemed ready and safe for the masses that the devs will release.

If anyone remembers unrevoked for the EVO, they would always take their time with a release and make sure that it was safe before letting it out. They worked amongst themselves, and the source to their tools were never released. No one btched at them for that.

Just be happy that someone got S off, and we will soon have access to it. I just don't understand why everyone is upset that it isn't out yet. Clearly if it was ready, they'd release it. You guys think they are just holding on to it for the hell of it, to prolong the suspense? Get real.

AlphaRev developed the process, and they will release it when they want. I would be pissed if i was them, and had to read about everyone calling them douche bags or jerks for not working with other devs on it. Wtf is that garbage? People calling the team that got us s off douches. Really? That's just ignorant.

There are a lot of different dev teams out there, and guess what? They make teams so that they can work amongst themselves. If every team wanted to work together, then why even form teams? Why not just have one gigantic "team xda" and they can all hold hands and dev together. Teams might.collaborate a bit with Rom, theme, and app development....but this type of thing isn't the.same.

Props to team alpharev. In my eyes they've done nothing wrong, and deserve nothing but praise and donations for what they're doing. Period.

EDIT: haha, how comical. That post WAS originally directed at you as well. I didn't even notice it was you again. At least you know how I feel about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Approching 4th day without an S-OFF release. Guess were wait for HTC. Hell at least we when they plan on releasing it. We are getting our hopes up for no reason. Let's get back into reality!
[HTC EVO 3D] bigant262:
What happened to your rumor? About somebody else releasing it today? Lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
Seriously?...
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
+1

Buck what's up bro?....