yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yeah, you have to be super careful with what you delete since there is so much dependancy withing 3.0. I put what definitely can be removed on user app area which you can remove in settings applications and uninstall. Other are kind of hit and missed. I think you can remove a few of the social apps but not friendstream.

I think someone created a list of what is safe to remove but I can't find it. Your best bet is try freezing them with Titanium one at a time and see what breaks it then you can remove the ones that are OK.

When you do delete make sure it is in /data/system.app/ not system since what is in system is just links
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EricS96521:
I didn't know that. I always deleted the apps from system/app and it would completely remove from the applications list and app drawer.

And thanks SlimSnoop. You just reminded me that I purchased titanium pro last year...lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20phileagles:
Is it possible to post your black keyboard as a flashable zip so I can try it with other roms. It is by far my fav. Or tell me where I can get it. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Is there any big advantage of deleting apps rather then freezing apps with Ti?

example. I never use stocks, news, news&weather, peep. I have always used Ti to freeze them no matter what rom I was using.

Will there be any advantage uninstalling them verse keeping them frozen?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shorty1993:
I delete all 3 sections of friendstream with no issues from every ROM I flash. Maybe I am the only one.

Wanted to say 1.6 is awesome. Zero lag. I have a ton of Widgets & shortcuts on all my homescreens & never drop below 120 MB free memory. Tilt homesceen is the only feature I don't use.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tjamscad:
I think it is in post 3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You would gain back some user data area which helps if you use a lot of apps
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
1.6 is a running smooth, no lag, excellent battery life.... Off topic, cwm 007 wipes much better than 008..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Too many posts to quote haha

Shorty1993,

You aren't the only one cuz I do as well. But I remove about twelve system apps ranging from the three listed friend stream, stock, news, fm radio, flickr, the black keyboard, and peep. Some of that I do before I put the rom onto my sd card and the rest I remove with titanium.

20phileagles,

If the keyboard isn't in post 3 check the rom. It's in data/app

EricS96521

Haha no problem, I use titanium pro all the time
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
To really wipe and get a clean slate, I do:

Wipe data from main menu.

Go into "mounts and storage"

- format /boot

- format /system

- format /data

- format /cache

Also in mounts & storage:

- mount /system

- mount /data

Back out to main, install zip as you normally do

Back out to main again, wipe cache

Reboot, you should be good to go
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20phileagles:
Thanks but I looked there but don't see a downloadable keyboard
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
not 100% sure but I think the black keyboard file is called HTC_IME mod vv.27
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
On my Incredible deleting the seemingly useless HTCRecommends.apk and widget will result in the ROM bootlooping. Go figure. Had to roll back to a Nandroid backup predating when I started deleted it to restore stability.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes, and it is in /data/app/ and can be copied and installed on just about any ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I am very satisfied with v1.6 and can't improve it much more.

Thank goodness Unrevolked came out with the Revolutionary s-off and recovery tool v0.4 pre 3 that will root all the new phones yesterday. It took me 5 minutes to root my Thunderbolt (the easiest root I have ever tried) and now I have another phone to play with until v1.7 comes out. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I think the next "hopefully" improvement will be the kernel and radio from the OTA when it is available.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] UHF3:
Hopefully, won't be too long.... Update benefits
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yup, kinda what I was implying. Hopefully we can get an RRU soon or atleast a nand backup.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I heard that update was due in a few days.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Expected to start tomorrow
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
My Dinc has not had any ota updates since I have rooted it.

Will I get the ota update notice? and If so what do i do with it? Im sure I dont want to install it.

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Oh well I can't flash it , the devs will

love to get their hands on it .
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
No , you root and no more Otas.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Nils,

Can't tell you how great 1.6 has been running. Excellent battery life and great memory stats. Unfortunately, it still has that old Bluetooth problem. When I connect the earpiece, my phone stays awake even when the screen is off. This kills off the battery and heats up the phone. Tried auto-bluetooth from the market but there's too much lag time to answer calls. This problem wasn't in your other roms or even early versions of this one. Any chance that there's a fix?

Thanks for all+
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
That's what I'm hearing, and "done" by the end of the week, meaning that the OTA will have gone out to everyone by then, so my guess is the developers will be able to get all over it this weekend, and by *next* weekend we might even start to see new and better kernels.

I note the radio is 7.07 from the docs, and the leaked release was 5.06.

I'm also amazed that it's only an 87mb download. I know that even if it's a compressed file, with all the issues you and other developers have had "compressing" the ROM to make space on the phone, it will be interesting to see what they do, especially since we know they're going to have the standard Verizon bloatware in it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nitdawg:
+1 for getting into the mounts and storage. No matter how many wipes I would do in the main menu (data and cache) and Dalvik cache, there would always been little things left over, like wifi passwords to certain access points, etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earendurh:
Hey guys,

Looks like there's been some action here this week and I was way behind on the threads! First, congrats Nils on the new rom, looking forward to trying it out, and don't worry about the status thing. I think you should play their game and appeal if it's that important to you; and I'm sure you'll get the recognition you deserve and that you were just caught in the cracks/scripts of their filtering system. You are indeed a great dev and are the only rom/dev I have used and have interest in since rooting last month for the remaining time I will have this device.

Anywho, I've been running 1.5 since its release a week or two ago, and am loving the rom apart from the issue quoted above. I'm finding I'm having to hot restart my phone once a day (usually in the morning since it seems to cut out overnight) to get the 3G radio to turn back on. It comes back, but is annoying when I'm trying to get somewhere in the morning and realizing my email/maps isn't working suddenly for example.

Also, Maps was behaving very strangely (not giving voice prompts before turns, and reading street names / turns oddly) until I manually updated to the latest version from the market and had to install voice-to-text to get voice search working. It's just my opinion, but I think these apps should be included in the Rom out of the gate to minimize issues with navigation.

Other than that, great job, and I appreciate any feedback on the 3G issue. Currently running the 5.06 radio and ran the fix in the third post which helped a lot, but hasn't seemed to eradicate the issue entirely. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Im sure any remaining nagging issues will be gone as soon as Nil's gets his hands on the new ota gingersense update that will be rolling out tomorrow, I noticed there is a new radio for the ota update, Hang tight, Im sure things will be 100% for 100% of us soon.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Not sure why there is a problem with maps since I did have the latest in 1.5 and have to check since I thought I also had the voice to text in there. Maybe something is just not triggering under certain conditions.

I am hoping that the soon to be new kernel and radio will give us a base for fixing a couple of nagging issues like 3G.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earendurh:
Awesome, thanks man (and thank you as well Hitch!). A newbie guide on flashing the kernel would be appreciated (is it the same as the radio?)

Yeah, I'm not sure about the maps thing either. Both were missing from the fresh 1.6 rom with full wipe and everything though from my observation. Other than that though, I haven't noticed any significant issues to speak of apart from some weird FCs here and there with the browser when launching links from gmail or something (not a big deal though).

Thanks again, and keep up the great work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] g00gl3:
Am I the only one who noticed that NilsP is now a Recognized Developer? How did I miss that and when did it happen?!?!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude! You the man!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Well I be dammed. I didnt notice that.

That's great news Nil's congratulations, you deserve it bud!

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Congratulations Nils, glad you could receive a boost in recognition for your work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20phileagles:
Check out post #3 using tapatalk. It has everything BUT the keyboard for download. I got home and used my PC and you guys were exactly right, post 3 and there it is. I dont understand but at least I'm happy:):):)

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Been in his signature all day.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks folks. I could not have done it without all of you.

They reconsidered my application and asked for more information and Waaaaalllla.

I think what it was is that 1.5 was not good enough but 1.6 did the trick :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yeah , I could say a few things about those people but I'll let it ride this time.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EricS96521:
My routine is:

Wipe data/factory reset x3

Wipe cache partition x3

Format boot x3

Format system x3

Format data x3

Format cache x3

Wipe dalvik cache x3

Install zip

Reboot and get everything setup, apps installed, accounts logged in to

Wipe cache partition x3

Format cache x3

Wipe dalvik cache x3

Reboot

Finish

I have yet to experience any problems with any rom since I started doing this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Let's not go there, girlfriend. ;) Let's keep it all about the ROM and our esteemed Recognized Developer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yeah, I went from Steamed to Esteemed in 3 easy lessons. HaHa

Thanks again
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jpradley:
Could you cite some examples of what was "left behind", and how this was determined and/or verified, and by whom?

Android is Linux based. To clear a directory, Unix and Linux use 'rm -fr', to forcibly remove everything in the supplied argument. In my twenty years' experience with Unix and Linux, I've never known that command to fail (unless a user manages to interrupt 'rm' before it's done.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Marcismo55:
Original Gangsta and it really shows with this ROM Nils. I've only been running this for a couple hours and I'm very impressed. Your tweaks to the UI are very tasteful and the ROM is exceptionally smooth for a first release. I did realize there was some lag between apps (namely Mail & Messages but expected for Sense 3.0) so I'll try the RAM fix and see how much it improves.

Either way I am truly looking forward to what you have in store for future releases. Thank you!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jcorrea86:
Thanks for the fix! I had switched my wifi to broadcast just to able to use my phone. Now with the fix, I was able to hide my SSID again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. It worked for me so I was hoping it worked for everyone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
It's not just hidden SSIDs, when I go from home to work, for instance, it doesn't rescan unless I toggle WiFi off and on, to find the networks visible at that location. In fact, it doesn't seem to be saving credentials every time, either, as I've had to remove and re-authenticate twice at home now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Newt:
Nils I almost have 2.1 cam and camcorder ported to my Rom it works much better. Once I have it done ill send you the files if you want them
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Fantastic. That is driving me crazy trying every combination of libs and cameras I can find.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Is that with the fix applied? I am not experiencing that. As a matter of fact I left home this morning connected here and then connected to a hidden at work and left there and just got home and it connected automatically. By the way, never turned WiFi off all day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
I'm applying the fix now, and I'll let you know if it's still behaving this way. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Oh well.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Please elaborate :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
The wi-fi fix has been there all day.

Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
Question - does mms work over wifi?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Figured that afterwards

Works for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kentsimon:
HTC CLock 3D

Nils, Thanks for the help with the clock.

I'd like to attach it for everyone but it is 8.5MB. Can I email it to you so you can attach it? Only if you think there is interest.

One more small question. In the rosie.apk the buttons at the bottom for phone, apps, etc. They seem to be dimmed out or have some black over them. Is it possible to brighten them like in Bussiness Gingersense 2.0. I can do it but again I don't know where to go.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You can get an ID on http://dev-host.org/ and post to your hearts content

I see what you mean about the Rosie icons. I will see what I can do to make them stand out better. The 2 icons are in fusion.apk but they look fine. Must be something to do with the background being slightly transparent
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tjamscad:
In this case I believe it is OD. Lame joke
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kentsimon:
HTC Clock 3D

Here is the clock Black on White with a transparent Background.

Just flash in recovery.

It looks like the Rosie bar has a semi transparent cover.

Thanks

Nils
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
MMS works, but I get a generic network error when WiFi is on...any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Haven't had that problem. Lets see what others say
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
Works for me as far as receiving goes with WiFi on. I had to turn WiFi off to send one though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] badogg:
Right on man, congrats. You totally deserve whatever recognition you get. I've been running this ROM for a while now and couldn't be happier.

Thanks again for all your hard work, I only wish I knew how to Develop. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Congratulations nils, that makes my infraction all worth while. Youmake some great roms, still on 3.0 and for me, it has been the best, i think thsts the most fair assesment i can give as all phones are a little diffferent. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] incubus26jc:
Congrats on the new "recognized developer" status buddy :)

Welcome to the club. Its not the name that is important, it's the benifits that you will enjoy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Im just passing on info that I have read in this and other topics.

Its pretty well known there was an issue with cwm 3.0.0.8.

I am not a dev, just learning from them
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yeah, I am sorry about that infraction.. Atleast your still here..

Thanks. The little benefits was all I was after to start with.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
congratulations nils looks like they listened :) to us both
[Droid Incredible Android Development] incubus26jc:
they gave u double status joel.. Congrats. Im wondering why yours is like that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Congratulations Nils!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] incubus26jc:
Lots of good news today :)

1. New Inc OTA

2. Google buys motorola and its patents

3. Nils and Joel Get recognized dev status :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jpradley:
Nils, I'm delighted to see the new shingle. Felicitations!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Dam sure was a good day :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks and congrats to you also. I like the double recognition. Did you apply twice? :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks I appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sure was and now I have my eyes open for the OTA RUU or a nand or whatever format we can get it in.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
Yea lol once like 2 months ago then again like a week ago
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Thats why u da man ;)

pop yourself a beer, you deserve it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chemical1der:
Congrats NilsP! You do excellent work and I'm glad you finally got the recognition you undoubtedly deserved.

--chemical1der
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
Those aren't leftovers, they're a part of Google backup/restore integrated into some roms.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shorty1993:
Congratulations NilsP. U deserved it. A well did Joel'Z. Downside to having all these good devs. Too much flashing back & forth. Phone stays in recovery & titanium backup than anything. Lol.

Congratulations again guys.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tony5104:
landscape mode not working all the time

Love this rom, its super fast and smooth. The one thing I am having issues with is landscape mode, especially with the camera. Did a search and got a lot of 3g drop results, so not a lot of help. Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
That's sig material right there. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kiboe:
hey, nills, would you suggest just leaving this rom on rather then going stock to get the OTA Gingerbread update pushing thursday?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Personally I'm going to wait for Nils to incorporate the new kernel from the OTA update into 1.7 (2.0?) so I don't have to go back to stock with a Nascar app.

You're going to downgrade your Sense from 3.0 to probably 1.x going to the stock update.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I would
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kiboe:
how did you manage the nascar app on a verizon phone?, thought that was sprint only.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Hmmmm. Have to check that out but I am not having those problems.

:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I would wait for a rooted version after the release so you can at least get off of it and not take a chance on it taking away root.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eraste:
ok dumb question when flashing a new radio with the PB31IMG.zip file for this rim does this matter which screen I have? I have the older AMOLED and when I tried to return my previous incredible to stock didnt realise it was SLCD so had the wrong PB31IMG.zip file. ended up with a black screen. Got the right one and flashed it blind that sucked! lol.

I ramble sorry:

1. To flash one of the radios using the PB31IMG.zip file you have for download doesnt matter which incredible right? Noticed had to have CRM 3.0.0.7 for amoled screen to flash the rom currently have 3.0.0.8 so Ill downgrade that to .7for the flash. Can I return it to .8 for the mods or just leave it at .7?

The incredible is getting the 3.0 OTA? Im lost lol :cool:

Thanks in advance awesome devs....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Installing radios is not screen amoled/slcd dependent. You can safely install one via hboot regardless of the screen you have. Just make sure you follow the directions Nils posted in the third post:

1) make sure your sd card is formatted to fat32

2) make sure zip is appropriately named

As for your CWM, just leave it as is and see how flashing works for you. If you install other roms like this and they work fine no need to change it up unless you are greeted with endless force closes and Death staring you down in your phone's reflection. The OTA for the Inc will likely be Sense 1.0 and gingerbread 2.3.4, we aren't THAT lucky to get Sense 3.0 from HTC :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ianPhillips1:
Wow one day at sea and good things are definitely happening. To Nilsp and Joel, you guys rock and the recognition is well deserved, develop on my friends!

Ian
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
I see some have asked if its a good idea to go back to stock, fet the ota and then root again.

What advantage would there be to doing that?

I would think All devs would bake everything from the ota into their roms

Hitch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ianPhillips1:
I am going to wait and let the boys do work. The only thing I want fresh out of the box is the new radio.

Ian
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I fully intend to use everything I can from it in these ROM's if it benefits these ROM's like the kernel.

I don't see any benefit in going back to stock to get the OTA. For one thing you will once again have a fully bloated phone. More importantly however is that you may lose root and not be able to get it back for awhile. Seems VZW and HTC have promised to lock it down once again in future releases and this is a future release.

I plan to take whatever we can get and create a fully stock version rooted so people can experience it. I would bet other devs will do the same maybe even before me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Thanks Nil's I didnt think there was Any advantage of going back, but since others have posted about maybe going I had to ask.

If it aint broke dont try to fix it!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yeah, the ones that go back will be the first to whine when they lose root and can't get it back for a while. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] withbloodskies:
Gingerbreak don't work?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] punman:
Whatever, I had my phone like 3 days before rooting last year, I don't know what bloatware was on it. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris7os:
Congratulations!

Nils and Joel are great devs and deserve their recognized developer status.

Congratulations my friends.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
I waited 5 min I practicly rooted it right there in the store.

I can barely wait till ota is out and this gets updated for it.