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[Samsung Infuse 4G] chrisyou:
haha i'm waiting on Bryan's review as well. I'm so ready for an extended battery. :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] oxbeast1210:
I purchased it too still waiting on it anyone seen any cases thay would fit the extended battery?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] cline2:
Did you get it yet? are they coming from Hong Kong? i ordered one that comes from Chicago, Il. I expect it today or tomorrow.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Good post review i found a1970 mha i will trt no extra bulk either
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Entropy512:
The nice thing about our fairly dumb fuel gauge chip is that there is no need for battery calibration in any case - even with a major battery capacity change. Our fuel gauge is based on battery voltage only. (Also why wiping battery stats does NOTHING in terms of fuel gauge on the Infuse.)

The only potential tweaks that might be beneficial (but not necessary):

1) Universally crank battery charge current to 800 mA in all charging phases. IMO it's only safe to do this at lower battery voltages with the stock battery, but with a 3500 mAh battery, you could keep it at 800 all the way to charge termination.

2) Probably charge termination current needs to be tweaked up a bit in the kernel if you want to properly terminate the charge. It may be OK as is.

3) The fuel gauge load compensation values will probably be different. A large battery like this should fluctuate less under load. Really this only has a small effect on battery percentage of charge reporting. You'd probably see a falsely high reading under load.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] cline2:
I received it yesterday and I have to order pouch since my ballistic case doesnt fit it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Entropy512:
Also, after looking through our kernel source - only the Vibrant does load compensation, and only when playing video or using camera.

So the only tweak one might want in the kernel for this battery would be a full-time bump of the charge current to 800 mA. (Which is possible.)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] vagelis:
I too received it yesterday, and all I can say so far is that by now i'd be down to 35% and plugging in (4pm) while now I am at 62% on infused b3.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Tomdg07:
you should only have to wait as long as it takes to charge to 100%.... bad battery :confused:
[Samsung Infuse 4G] theROMinator:
The phone probably has a set time cached when to stop charging the battery. Just an assumption.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Focustom:
When I got my battery it said to charge it like 12 hours I think, regardless of the what the meter reads. And I have great times with mine.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] igotdez:
I wonder of that's the case but jeez does out honestly take that long to charge.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] -Kevlar-:
i charge mine at night. 6-7 hours and its full and lasts 18 hrs with heavy use.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
Got the square backed case. Man this thing is slippery. There is no way that this is a 3500 mAh battery. I may have to hack up a TPU case very soon.

Edit: Took me about a minute to cut out 3/4 of the back of a TPU case. Fits tight in the Qmadix holster, but the combination works!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Jkbiker:
So which does everyone reccomend?

On Amazon. com I saw about 4 differnt brands

High Quality about $10

GTMax about 10

Hyperion about $15

Actually there is a samsung brand for $20

Which should I get?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] cletusarrarr:
i wonder if anyone has tried this ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1292028
[Samsung Infuse 4G] skotk13:
Maybe reboot to recovery and wipe battery stats?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] panther926:
Sadly these generic batteries just don't seem to work as well. I use an OEM and a chinese brand. The real Samsung one seems to last ALOT longer for me.

I don't know about others, but that is my experience. Some things you can skimp on. I don't feel batteries are one of them. Just like ANY battery, the knock-offs never work as well. :cool:
[Samsung Infuse 4G] DarienA:
my extended life battery lasts a full day without juice defender. I could only do that with my oem with juice defender turned on. That's enough for me.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] skatin707:
Batteries are supposed to control charge time.

I use the hyperion batteries. They are fantastic.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] drs155:
I have two of these that I got a few weeks ago. I have only used them once each and haven't noticed any additional battery use time. Maybe over time.. www ebay.com/itm/260859290400?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

can't post links yet so take the space out after www
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MarkStinger:
How easy was it to accomplish this? I have another TPU case that I tried this on tonight and although I got the cutout in the right spot, the case no longer has a solid fit. I knew it would lose some strength because a good chunk of the back is gone but it really does not look like it would stay on properly (with my TPU case). Note that I do not have the same case as you.

Any suggestions if I were to buy this case (which is cheap on Amazon or eBay) and try again?

Edit: this was a response to this post -- http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16775069&postcount=163
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Ok I bought it to test to help community out. Long life . Add 30% to my phone or so it displays it llike its true reading. But makes phone bulky. I'm trying 1970 battery as we speak
[Samsung Infuse 4G] chrisyou:
For those of you who have it, does it make reaching the top right upper most icon impossible? I have fairly some fairly small hands, and am concerned that the added bulk will make one-handed typing and swiping a chore. Can we get some pictures as well? Side profile shots would be most appreciated. :D
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
If 3500mah adds 30% capacity, a 1970mah is going to only add about 3-5% to your battery life. Is that even worth the $30 they're charging for the 1970mah battery?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Bella I'm testing a battery, The power of emails and review writings are great. And can I ask y u must bash all posts about this phone? I think everyone here has been nice and tried helping u. Almost all of us enjoy this phone and our small evergrowing community,but to slander the device makes me wonder why do you still stay? If its that bad go sell it and buuy another phone.I'm not one to flame but really every post is either,rom's broke,phones broke,it wont do this,it wont do that,that's not worth it.we are all learning and adapting as we progress with the infuse.its a solid phone and we have solid development team with a good future in front for Roms and what not. But really enough slander,on all aspects please.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Wow... that sort of mentality is a bit backward. If you don't like that someone criticizes a phone you have, maybe you should stick to reading opinions on Samsung.com or SamsungReviews.com, because there they'll delete anyone who thinks the phone has issues and speaks out about it.

If you want someone to reassure you that your phone is the best out there, this is not the place for it. The forums here are a place for people to express their opinions on the product, without censorship. If yo don't want to read people stating facts (yeah, it's a fact that a group, be it small or large) DO have battery issues on Infused and even stock ROM.

Maybe you shouldn't read threads about "extended batteries", or "poor battery life" because I'm not sure why you'd expect glowing reviews of the battery life when the thread is entitled poor battery life, LOL.

If you go through life thinking anyone who disagrees with you is flaming you, you're in for a long road of disappointment. I'm entitled to state my opinion, and I don't think it's absurd that if a 3500mah battery gives 30% improvement in performance, to question a battery with an extra 5% in mah really doesn't seem all that bashing, does it?

And for the record, *I* ordered a 3500mah battery... because I want better battery life... oh wait, that's flaming you with unsolicited opinions. I bought it because I want to have the warm fuzzy feeling of making my wonderful battery have a play buddy for the cost of $12 even tho there's absolutely nothing wrong with the most amazing battery life of the stock battery because that's why companies make aftermarket huge batteries because people are content with the stock battery, right? LOL
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Yea lololool yep that's the mentality. Genius you are lolol. I was just stating it doesn't matter how much it cost some people wanna know how it works.but then we get people.like u who say this phone sux I can't even switch my carrier or must be the rom my battery life is horrible. I don't care if you are opinionated Bella that's good but griping all the time gets old. Do your thing it doesn't matter I'm not going to keep replying to these flame wars but in fact rom's and peoples input on things regardless of price,version,battery life, age, sex,or creed should be displayed and talked about not ripped apart everytime. Have nice night
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jdbeitz:
Come on guys. Stay on topic or don't post at all. You're the reason. These forums get out of control.

I'm also debating getting an extended battery. Do you all think its worth all the bulk?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Incruze:
I liked the 3500mah except the bulkiness. Im using the incipio offgrid charging case. It makes the phone a look huge, but the ability to charge the phone whenever you need it. Makes it worth it, for 70 dollars.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
I think so. When I fly overseas I'm away from a charger for 48 hours at a time, and am ordering it for that purpose. Otherwise the standard battery will be fine. For $12 I can't see myself not having the 3500 for travel\times when I want to use my phone as a hotspot router for an extended period of time.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Waltercln:
got any HQ pics?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
I will post tmrw for yo
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Waltercln:
thanks. wanna see how bulky it is before i buy.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
I would say if u keep it in ur pocket all day it may get annoying. But its not terrible. Good for trips
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Waltercln:
Where's the pics :-)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] toshik1:
Got one from ebay. Since the battery is bigger, comes with the new back cover. However there is no case to go over it. So it's on the shelf untill the case becomes availalble.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Entropy512:
Have one on order from eBay - at that price it's hard to go wrong, although I'm not sure how much I'll use it, since it's going to make the phone unusable with the Samsung car dock.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] nickn850:
can someone please post a pic??
[Samsung Infuse 4G] cline2:
The door is plastic and it is easy to crack it. Mine already cracked!! mofo!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] chrisyou:
I'm expecting my extended battery today. I purchased mine off of amazon, but it's pretty much the same package you currently see on ebay. I'll have pics up soon as i get it. The seller is based in cali - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Exten...7VGU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1312829522&sr=8-9
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Sorry for no pics I.gotta a dud battery LOL there sensing me a new set Sometimes I hate ebay
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
You know we won't be able to tell by pictures if the battery won't hold a charge ;-)

hehe. Mine is being delivered today, so I can post pics as well if you'd like. My mail usually comes in the next hour or two so I can post them right away, assuming it's delivered on schedule today.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
I had to send it out today to get my refund on the road. Duhh. :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
hehe oh yeah, duhh. Well hopefully I'll have mine in the next couple hours, dead or alive.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Waltercln:
+ 1 post if you get time
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
One cracked door and one dud battery. Not a good start for the reviews ;)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Mine was from Japan go figure lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Waltercln:
Is it really that fragile? How did you crack it
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Grrr, mail delivery is late today. It says it's on the carrier's truck but the carrier's truck hasn't come yet, haha. And we wonder why the USPS costs so much and benefits us so little, lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] thestraubulous:
How many different batteries are there? I don't even know what the stock one is. So is there a better one that can still utilize the stock back and holds more charge? even if I can only get 10% more life I'll buy one.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
My understanding is the stock battery is 1750mah. There's always tons of aftermarket, but my guess is right now there's only 1 3500mah, but that it's typical to be distributed by several sources.

I've been buying aftermarket batteries for years. Usually when they first come out, they're $10 or less direct from Asia, or $20 or so from within the US, but always tend to come from HKG\China... as you'll see by packaging. They're almost not as much capacity as they say, so the 1900mah one floating around leaves me skeptical, but at 3500mah even if it only gets 75% of that claim it'll still be a nice boost over the stock battery.

Will update soon with pics.. damn the mail lady is slow today.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Bad news everyone.

Mine was just delivered. They used brittle plastic, so mine too was broken.

The corner, as shown in the photos, arrived completely broken off. Not sure why they used a brittle plastic, but here's photos of what arrived.

Such a shame. eBay claim now open.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Unboxing (de-shrink wrapping. Not sure why they packaged it so poorly to allow the corners to chip off.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Sorry for the re-posts, but it only allows me 4 pics per post.... but here are a couple more with the back on.

Here's a few observations:

- Back piece fits well, however is very brittle plastic.

- Back piece feels secure. Phone actually feels like it has some heft when the battery is installed.

- Back piece is different color (black) than the glossy grey of the backsides of the phone, so it sticks out like sore thumb.

- Battery contacts configured upside down, so my wall-battery-charger will not allow the battery to slide in and charge.

- Shiny back piece attracts fingerprints like an In N Out employee attracts zits.

Aside from that, I am charging it now and will report the charge time. It's got 40% charge on it at the moment out of the package, and I'll report how long it takes to charge, then give a bit of dialogue about it's ability to hold charge.

Any questions? Feel free to ask!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] chrisyou:
Hey bella,

Thank you for the pictures. Sucks about the plastic piece being broken! I think it looks great and is a small sacrifice for better battery life. Enjoy your battery and please keep us posted with your results.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Yeah was super bummed about the crack. It still affixes to the phone just fine, so hopefully the seller will respond and just send me a replacement back. Kinda annoying how they packaged it tho, not too happy about that.

One other thing I noticed is the back was designed so the pack that sticks out is almost identical mini version of the contour of the phone. From a thickness standpoint it exactly doubles the thickness of the phone.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] thestraubulous:
Thanks for the input. Now are there same sized batteries as the stock one that hold more charge? Or are they always physically bigger?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Generally OEMs like Samsung do get as much packed into a form factor as possible. I trust them to try and pack the most life into the space they can. With many of the aftermarket batteries, they makers will claim 5-10% extra life (as is the case with the 1950mah floating around on the net) out of the same form factor. Most people who buy them end up reporting no noticeable difference in life. Think about it, how can you measure within 5% accuracy? You really can't, so they get away with claiming a couple extra percentage points in batteries.

Bottom line with battery technology, it's still fairly primitive. Size ultimately equals capacity with these batteries, so to get significant improvement in mah capacity is not possible without also increasing in physical size unfortunately.

Rule of thumb is if someone promises a result that seems too good to be true, it usually is. I've found that the best way to get more battery life is to just have a spare original Samsung battery and when it runs low swap it. That way I have 3900 mah in capacity through 2 batteries with only a 2 minute swap of downtime, and no compromise on phone thickness.....
[Samsung Infuse 4G] thestraubulous:
Those pics are good. It really doesn't look all that bad.

And sorry for this noob question but what is a fuel gauge? And how to you reset it? Is that just the normal settings/about/battery?

Are there programs that monitor battery status? If so recommend one?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Dying battery life on that 3500 is good but my battery wouldn't even charge so return,plus that thing in your pocket hurts. This 1970 mha. Batttery is awesome. I'm going to ask if we can get special price
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
The problem with the 1970 mah is that it's only 12% more life than the stock battery, which to me for $20 for the OEM battery I'd rather just carry it and swap it if I need it for 100% increase in time of use in a day.

I can't imagine carrying this thing in my pocket. It's a BEAST, and I've only had it for an hour and I already hate the back piece, as it's all smudged up with fingerprints, and I'm anal retentive about washing my hands.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] thestraubulous:
Yeah that sounds about right. I remember when I bought my Samsung Blackjack it actually came with 2 batteries. One was about twice the size and came with an additional back. I think I may buy a battery just like the one you got. Maybe eventually I can buy one in store so I can make sure its not cracked.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
I can't imagine finding it in the store for $12. Even buying stuff in asia costs more than buying it on eBay US and having it shipped. :-)

But for the price, get it on eBay for the $12. If it comes cracked they are required to replace or refund under Buyer Protection Policy, so no need to worry.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] thestraubulous:
Where did you get your 1970? If you trust that its truly 1970 I may be leaning toward that considering bella says the other one is a beast lol. Now are these batteries lithium? I suppose I could just take the back off my phone and look lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Where did you order from\how much did you pay? The red one all over eBay, right?

Do you even notice the improvement in life? I've read so many reviews of people saying the difference isn't noticeable.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] thestraubulous:
I also hate fingerprints but I don't even have a case yet. I'm just counting on myself being extra careful. Looking into a case too though.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Isn't it funny how we're complaining that the battery that lasts "only 2 days" doubles the phone's thickness to a whopping 3/4 of an inch thick, and grandpa here used to love his phone with 6 inches of thickness, offering a mind boggling 90 minutes of talk time per day? hehehe
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Oh I meant to comment on that as well. I am happy to report that the phone still does fit into my Sena Ultraslim Infuse 4G case, even with the thick battery on it, so for those who this is a concern, don't worry. I'm not going to take pics in the case tho because it's a tight fit, and leaving it in there will cause the case to stretch out, and I don't plan on using a the Sena on it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Actually I'm happy with it that damn thing 3500 beast is way to.big for everyday use. this battery IMO is way better than stock but that's me.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
HEHE, or at least you've convinced yourself of it, hehe ;-)

How much was it and where from?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
I know it does I use my phone so heavy its funny. I've used it all sorts of ways this adds a little extra umphh I needed. But you can believe your eBay people Bella I'm not in the mood to prove anything.I'm stating its a good upgrade. :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
Keep in mind that you're on a new ROM now too ;) One that's supposedly more battery friendly.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Are you borderline retarded? It was a joke, hence the smile. Jeez, you're so defensive of your purchase. Even if it's 1970mah that's 12% increase, so I'm not saying you're crazy, I'm just saying the increase is minimal so other users don't expect anything over the top.

I have asked you 3 times now where you purchased it and how much it cost, but you seem too interested in defending your purchase to actually tell us where and how much so we can look at it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
I've been on this rom through all stages buddy I know all these Rome I was here day of launch.. it does help with rom but I can notice I sufferance. Bella I wasn't being mean just don't wana state everything LOL I'm being lazy but yea u can notice a difference. :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
Yeah, I noticed a huge difference between Infused 1.53 and 2.0. Infused 1.53 was unusable for me with the battery drain, so I had to stay at stock. 2.0 is installed now and to me it feels like I get the same great battery life I got on stock AT&T, maybe even better. I'm loving it (McDonalds jingle)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MisterEdF:
What could possibly make it "awesome?"

Even if it is a true rating which I highly doubt it's only going to give you a few extra minutes of use. Mah ratings on cheap import batteries are usually way overrated. The cheap import batteries are rarely even close to what they advertise and for $15-$20 IMO totally not worth it for the (if you are lucky) extra 20 minutes you MAY get out of it. If you're gonna buy cheap batteries may as well just buy the cheap "standard" ones which you can get 3 for $10 on eBay and keep a spare or 2 in your pocket or glove compartment. Ain't worth paying a premium for 1 alleged 1950mah battery that probably isn't even close to it's rating when you can get a handful of just a crappy standard ones for probably half the price.

Just sayin'
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
LOL I know you were joking yes Bella eBay red one.and email the Guy tell him from xda yadda yadda deal please and I think they run 25 ish. I'm not mad :) just eating dinner and getting yelled at for typing LOL :) were past that bella
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Wow thanks Guy? Needed that input look the only thing that matters is it works for me I.could give a **** if u care LOL.if u don't wanna buy don't plain and simple.

Not being a **** but calm down f-in battery police LOL. It is better than stock yes.does it last a year no but I wanted a little bump up and that 3500 battery broke a cell or something in lime threedays so ehh. EBay will be eBay.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
In defense of tyshemi, 10-15% is significant. If your doc says "do you want to live to be 70, or 80?" that's a big increase in life expectancy.

Where we might disagree is the "value" of that. Do we spend $20 for a 12% increase in one battery, or spend $20 for a second OEM battery and see a 100% increase battery and have the hassle of having to swap batteries?

Personally, I'd rather have the later... for 12% increase in life I'd rather carry a second OEM, but that's mainly because I have 2 OEMs. Obviously if you want a second battery and you're deciding between $20 for 1970mah or $20 for 1750mah, go with the one tyshemi has.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
What's for dinner? :-)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
thank you Bella. Love ya
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tyshemi:
Brats and beer :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bella92108:
I just need to learn to start with saying "in my situation..." cause I often forget not everyone is as cool as me, hehe
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
Stable has only been out for what, 2 days? The rom is definitely a big deal in terms of battery life. On 1.5.3 it seemed that the display certainly used more juice than on 2.0 stable.

I'm considering grabbing an extra battery or two just for when I travel.