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[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yeah just saw that. talk about some BS there. Guy lends you a hand and then you make a break thru and then turn your back on him......load of crap. hope they get up with him soon and return the favor he gave to them to begin with.
[HTC EVO 3D] ballr4lyf:
sweet mother..... O.o
[HTC EVO 3D] fastamx79:
:eek:

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[HTC EVO 3D] mrozzeh:
We actually never used his work. He did give us the source for it, but it was independently discovered weeks before we were given anything from him. It's a moot point regardless, because we are not using the "Fr3vo" exploit.

As for "ignoring" him, he only sent a message to one person, who happens to be on the complete opposite time zone from him.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
LOL, this is what people tend to forget. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
gotcha. so is this unrevoked or alpharev or combination of both groups that got this done?

Ask b/c see your sig shows unrevoked member, and only thing i read so far was alpharev did the hack lately.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrozzeh:
This got out before we could make a formal announcement, but unrevoked and alpharev will be merging sometime in the near future. We've always been very close, but we will be officially merging..."soon".
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
and since you seem to be "in the know" more than most everyone else around here now at the moment...could you comment on the bootloaders itll support or have anything to say if it might or deff wont or likely will be able to work on the latest Hboot for the evo3D??? think its 1.40.

thanks for the responses btw.
[HTC EVO 3D] Shadowmite:
When it's ready (which is why nothing has been said yet) it should support any hboot available at the moment. If you don't rush things you get higher quality releases. We commend Teamwin for their discovery of the integer overflow used in the Fre3vo exploit, and have no intention of claiming we accomplished that. However that is what it is, a Linux kernel exploit which is only a small part of the larger battle on these devices.
[HTC EVO 3D] Puinsai:
Woo awesome!
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Honestly I dont care who did what lol.. props to all
[HTC EVO 3D] MizzouBrent:
Is this breakthrough going to work for all the recent HTC updates? I have a replacement OG Evo that is currently unrootable.
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
This sounds great, thanks for the update.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
read a few posts up bud
[HTC EVO 3D] nemesys504:
Is there an ETA for releasing this to the masses? I need some S-OFF love in my life.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
Are you kidding me??? Don't ever ask for an ETA dummy. Mmmmmm k.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
tsk tsk tsk ..
[HTC EVO 3D] bballer71418:
Not at all asking for an eta but what is alpharevs opinion about giving teamwin and pre-public release? Alpharev deserves alot of credit but teamwin has some amazing devs and im sure would gladly help iron out any last bugs
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
+1

I'm willing to bet it is all of those factors combined. I don't want a brick. I'll let them test it to perfection.

I don't think it is fair to void my hardware warranty just to change my software and "own" the device I paid damn good money for. I think it is fantastic that they are working on setting this up for the entire family of new HTC eMMC crypto-signed devices.

Also, how would you feel if this came out for just the Sensation? What if you have an HTC Flyer and even though you know they share a lot in common with the Sensation and E3D you weren't included?

This is still within the 30 day window--and they don't even have reason to actually care about YOUR return window. You think they don't want to collect their awesome points as soon as possible?

Please people, show a little respect. I'm as impatient as the rest but I'll be damned if I take it out on a dedicated crew of developers who is doing something that I can very well get for free. Most people here won't donate. They know this. They are exercising their own judgement. They have their reasons. If they are wise enough to crack this (intentionally difficult and insanely elaborate) system open I would say it's a fair estimate that they are wise in whatever guides their decision to not release it until the time is right.

Maybe I'm just old and it seems like 'back in my day' our hacking communities and groups were treated with respect ESPECIALLY by the beneficiary groupies that formed around them and their scene....but that was nearly 20 years ago, I guess times have changed...for the worse.

Sad...really.
[HTC EVO 3D] steal25:
The whole "dev down" attitude amazes me! would you put out something you weren't 100% positive that it wouldn't jack up someones phone, Let me know so I don't flash anything from you. Not that I think you would care if I did or not, The same way I sure AlphaRev could care less whether you stick it out or not either.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
How in the hell do you know they have "gold"? Just because you saw the Damn YouTube vid? Wtf does that mean? How do you know that the process doesn't brick 50% of the phones, and they are ironing out the problems? What the hell is it with everyone in here thinking that they are entitled? I'm positive that when things are deemed ready and safe for the masses that the devs will release.

If anyone remembers unrevoked for the EVO, they would always take their time with a release and make sure that it was safe before letting it out. They worked amongst themselves, and the source to their tools were never released. No one btched at them for that.

Just be happy that someone got S off, and we will soon have access to it. I just don't understand why everyone is upset that it isn't out yet. Clearly if it was ready, they'd release it. You guys think they are just holding on to it for the hell of it, to prolong the suspense? Get real.

AlphaRev developed the process, and they will release it when they want. I would be pissed if i was them, and had to read about everyone calling them douche bags or jerks for not working with other devs on it. Wtf is that garbage? People calling the team that got us s off douches. Really? That's just ignorant.

There are a lot of different dev teams out there, and guess what? They make teams so that they can work amongst themselves. If every team wanted to work together, then why even form teams? Why not just have one gigantic "team xda" and they can all hold hands and dev together. Teams might.collaborate a bit with Rom, theme, and app development....but this type of thing isn't the.same.

Props to team alpharev. In my eyes they've done nothing wrong, and deserve nothing but praise and donations for what they're doing. Period.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
Every time someone says "I'm returning if not unlocked in 30 days" somewhere in the world a dev sheds a single tear. It really means a lot to them if you keep your 3D. The last thing they want is for you to go through the hassle of returning your phone, paying a restocking fee and reactivating your older slower, non sense 3.0 phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] steal25:
Question of the year!
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
Maybe they are waiting because if they dropped the E3d today and sensation isnt ready someone opens the exploit up and makes a few adjustments and releases it for sensation. Stole the hack and reap the donations off another teams hard work. Also upon release HTC will probably send out OTA's blocking the exploit, so phones that were close but not quite wrote into the hack are ****ed. AlphaRev stated we are almost with no S-Off due to simlocking, so it wouldnt take much to close the hole, HTC will close it before or the unlock OTA. They want to be out of warranty obligations, not let you ignore their S-Off only to flash another devs hack. I aint gonna lie though, I am ready like 10 MoFo's LOL.
[HTC EVO 3D] aleksis2010:
well said!
[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
I just want to say thank-you to the devs for putting so much work into this for us! I really appreciate it. Don't listen to trolls. Most of us are grateful for your hard work. If it weren't for you, one of my biggest hobbies would be out the window. so CHEERS! and Thanks!

Don't worry; Be happy (and grateful!)
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Well said!

You would think this is common sense, sadly it isn't.

The folly of entitlement is scary and it only seems to be getting worse with younger generations. I wonder the average age of the people in this thread that are *****ing like they are owed S-OFF.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
I agree. This phone stuff should never get this serious. Now if it is gold or dimonds by all means keep it to your selves I don't blame you. I'm quite sure I an fix and bugs its having. Everyone already knows u guys did it first. What more are u looking for.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
I'm 30 and I don't believed I am owed anything but the phone I bought. So many people bought this phone in hopes it would be rooted. It has! That should be enough to keep the masses content. Sadly it's not.

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@Jaywan What if that bug includes a brick? U can fix????
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
I mean if u want ur belly running dual core I say do it. Please make a video too
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
Most of the people here already know how to act. Stop responding to those 10% that act like morons and have a field day getting on some you's nerves. We can't have one page with people fighting, then 1 person justifying and then another OMG THANKS right after, cause they felt bad for feeling that way. Damnit.. see.. Now I'm part of this crap.

I'm really curious though how they do this stuff and bypassed the encryption. I thought this was some serious lockdown on our bootloaders, and these guys made it look like they just pushed a button 3 times in the video and had glory. Can we not theorize on how they achieved bypassing the security flags, rather than talk like we all have to set people straight in life?
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
That would be nice, but most people seem to just enjoy downing other people. It would be nice to learn something every once in a while.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Seriously... We get it. How many times are we gonna post the same crap? Just drop it and get back on topic.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
I think you are mistaking this for dev thread. General is the perfect place to be off topic and without any news how can we be on topic?
[HTC EVO 3D] mich11128:
Well all drama aside I'm extremely happy to know that there Devs working hard to get S-OFF. Patience is really a virtue here at XDA (I've learned that ever since my G1 days). I can imagine it might be hard to make the release as noob friendly as possible considering how locked down the bootloader is.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
I would give you 20 thanks and a cookie if I could Kyle.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Exactly.

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[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Mmmmmm, a cookie!:D That would be nice. Everyone should eat a cookie.
[HTC EVO 3D] smoochiezz24:
Walk where? To make your own unlock I suppose?
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
Walk to the "I don't want a kick ass s-off phone store"

I know this has been asked 100's of times but why do people think anyone else cares what they do with their phone? It never ceases to amaze me. Like these threats make devs go "oh crap joe blow hard is taking his phone back, work faster."
[HTC EVO 3D] BlaydeX15:
Updated the OP with some of the info I was able to find regarding the video and the S-off status (For our phone and others). Hopefully that will stop some of the stupid questions. (HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, right.)
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
BlaydeX15, thanks for changing the title and giving more info.
[HTC EVO 3D] trance728:
Thanks Blake, and why would anyone think that getting rid of the phone would have any effect on the dev's, they don't make or lose money if you have the phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
I been doing this far to long to brick my device ARX got it this far is a cake walk from there.
[HTC EVO 3D] hiperglyde:
i agree maybe you should go ahead and take off. im sure you will be missed..
[HTC EVO 3D] notasimpleway:
There is no way I am taking this awesome phone back. But for those that are:

;)

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
The only thing owed to use with this phone is 4g...any thing else for it working with root access is not owed to anybody. Some of the idiots say that they worked in silence and was hush hush...so what...in the phone world...the ones with the exploit makes the rules....it is there own..they did it and we did not...the world does not owe us anything...these guys worked to achieve it...give them freaking credit...not bull**** or demands...how would you feel if you did this and the same cummunity....parts of it is crapping on you...grow up....
[HTC EVO 3D] inoskedu8o8:
I'm pretty sure he was joking. He just took the phrase "unlock or we walk" from people posting on HTC's page lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] danaff37:
Personally, I hope they are waiting for all the a holes and so called devs whining about their thirty days to just take it back
[HTC EVO 3D] zonyl:
In the good ole days, xda wasn't a hang out for trolls and need for facepalm pic posters. The crowd wielding internet enabled phones was a lot more selective. This is just a change in times, not arx doing something nefarious. They are probably making it more "child proof"
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Sprint's already made it very clear to every one who asks on their forum that modifying the software will void your warranty.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
It would have been cool for them to say "we are stumped, can't do it" then on day 31 "we got it" That would weed out the unfaithful.
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
Then watch all the unfaithful start to post in this thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1177214

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] :
hope a root method comes out soon...my patience is draining.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
Yes, because complaining like a little twat is going to help. Suck it up, sally. Get some patience.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
hahahaha im srry...im just so excited!
[HTC EVO 3D] romannsjr:
OMFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have we not read anything in this forum ?? My bad ur the only 1 waiting on root....The crying of the TROLLS is f*kn killing me..
[HTC EVO 3D] :
sorry man...i just joined the forums so i'm still learning. i'm sorry for being a noob.
[HTC EVO 3D] DXL XLR8:
omg omg omg i cant stop pacing back and forth!
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Don't be sorry, and welcome to XDA!
[HTC EVO 3D] :
thank you!
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
You should only be sorry if you have to post in the 3D thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] pierre1321:
I thought having s-off was what allowed the ability to create root.

So isn't s-off just the beginning.

Isn't the task now to to actually make the root path to a recovery, to allow modifications.

I mean just cause its off doesn't mean its going to know what to do with a ROM or kernal I try to flash.

Correct me if I'm wrong
[HTC EVO 3D] J3STUR:
Yeah I Agree, just be patient people, It will come when the time is ready

I know how ya feel, Im getting rom flashing withdrawals lol, I called up my buddy just so I could root his Captivate and flash a rom for him, Pretty fun and passed some time away
[HTC EVO 3D] :
It should give permanent root and open doors to custom recovery and roms.

I Haz 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I guess you missed the point. Its not a question of your abilities to brick a device or not but rather the integrity of the tool in its current state and propensity to brick a device...
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
I think everyone needs to chill the **** out and let the devs do their thing. What they're doing is better than HTC's efforts, clearly, so be thankful we even have devs putting their time in to make this happen for all us who don't know what the hell we're doing.
[HTC EVO 3D] NexuGsx:
We already have the ability to root (just temporarily, gets destroyed with a reboot).

S-Off will allow for custom recoveries, which will allow for custom roms, which will have root/superuser/etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
No offense but what we are doing here is not hindering the process.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
All I know is even when we get s-off Im not flashing anything until Cyanogenmod arrives. My favorite Rom ever.

I Haz 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] pierre1321:
Exactly,

Reread what I posted, confused myself.

Glad you caught what i was saying.

There is still work to be done.

There are still devs here that are looking into other routes. patiently waiting too see where that goes.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I'll probably flash a light weight Sense ROM whileI wait for the CM7 goodness to arrive. Can't wait for CM8 later this year!
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
LOL i ran CM on my EVO for about its total life but until it comes out ill flash a few of them and try them out.I think people go overboard saying they will try nothing until cm7 comes out lolz owell.
[HTC EVO 3D] ElAguila:
People seem to forget a couple of things. They are developing this on their own. They are in no way obligated to release it ever should they choose not to. Why do some users feel that they are owed this tool? None of us are. We should just be thankful.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
With the speed of this thing I don't think sense roms(even in their huge glory) could slow this thing down. If sense 3.0 is running smooth now with no bloat removed and not optimized from the hacking community. Once custom roms come out will all be enjoying speed no matter what rom we use.

@Above post. Pssst. Little late to the party.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
No ****, huh? Lets just be glad they are not charging for it!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Id pay for it :)

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Me too.

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[HTC EVO 3D] :
I'd pay for CM. I remember when I used to hate it and would always stick with Warm2.2 but one day I figured things out and was like "OH SNAP!!!" complete customization. People thought I had some super phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
When I sold my EVO to sprint I actually had the balls to take it back rooted with CM7 (and the bought it, WOOT!). They were amazed by it. Oh yeah I walked away with the new 3D on launch.

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] SouthernEvo:
All I got to say is I will enjoy the moment they release this , mainly for two reasons . 1)I can resume my flashing addiction and a particular Dev if he jumps on the scene *coughMyncough* 2) When they launch it before HTC starts sending out their "updates" to set their phones to be ready for "Their" unlocking tool . Personally I will wait patiently for the AlphaRev tool to be released . Mainly due to the fact that I suspect they wont tamper with the phone much like I have a feeling HTC/Sprint will . I know its been discussed at great length if HTC's unlock will watermark the phone or not and indicate it being rooted . I know this is a different piece of tech in comparison to the EVO 4G but one luxury that I really enjoyed with that phone was the ability to reverse the root process and bring the phone in for service if the situation came . I firmly believe the AlphaRev tool will do exactly that with Unrevoked working with them . I trust the devs here more than I trust Sprint or HTC for that matter . So everyone chill and relax and before long we will all be flashing roms till our eyes bleed or our power buttons take a dump ROFL .
[HTC EVO 3D] bso44:
Well said.
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
While I hope that they do have it figured out, I am doubtful. 1st, some Sensations shipped S-Off and the wierd wipes on the video make me think of a bait and switch. 2nd, the screen shot of the 3D looks goofey like a bad PhotoShop. And last, the amount of time it's taken to clean up the process. I'm calling bs... but please, please please prove me wrong!

I await the flaming since we have so many trollops on the 3D forums :(

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] bso44:
Why would the devs lie about it? What would be the motivation behind it?
[HTC EVO 3D] fastamx79:
Trying to avoid the "These are the (drama) Days of Our XDA Lives" I want to go on the record and finally say "thank you" to *EVERYONE* that was involved from the beginning with the basic temp root, to the more stable temp root, and to those who found a way around the s=on issue. Those are the *REAL* troopers in all of this, and they deserve NOTHING more than our support. Without them we would still be stuck at 100% stock.. and I am ashamed that this XDA community can quickly change its tune from "root or we walk"... and we got root, then from s=off or we walk, and now we are on the verge of s=off. Too many loud selfish people here that overcloud the ones who are on the side lines cheering them on.

I offer a full fledged "Thank You".. and I am *VERY* greatfull to the hard working people who also have full time jobs, and family.. who take time out of those lives to try and better our phones. Without them none of this would be possible :D
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
Very few people know for sure, I dont flame anyone, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I never believe anything until I have it in my own hands, that's just me.

a bird in hand is better than two in the bush
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
Brings traffic to their site, and once HTC releases they could say "we're done". That being said, I don't know the Alpha devs since my prior phone was an Eris and I hope they prove me wrong. If so, I'll eat my foot with relish.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
I think you all need to show a little respect. Seriously. I am tired off people who want this **** now. Remember, these devs do this stuff for fun, regardless of donations. They still have real lives, families and jobs. Please keep these ****ty comments to your self. Alpharev has no obligation to release anything to us and remember that.

Again, from here forward can we please keep things positive around here?

And to everyone who has been involved, including those who have worked tirelessly with no luck, I thank you and your hard work is much appreciated!
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
You'll be eating your foot with relish soon enough. (thats my opinion)
[HTC EVO 3D] bso44:
The backlash against a stunt like that wouldn't be worth the publicity.
[HTC EVO 3D] pierre1321:
+1
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
Quoting for posterity... Might want to research the group before you say more... Besides, do you think TeamWin would have backed off and called the hunt for s-off if they did not trust/believe AlphaRev?
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
UNLOCK OR WE WALK!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
Bye Bye! :p
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
I seriously hope I am wrong, but I don't like how this whole thing's been handled... Maybe it's all the trolling that goes on in the 3D forum? I think that TeamWin backed off b/c of HTC's announcement and that every major developer will use HTC's version with a bypass on the warranty voiding.

Just my speculation and opinion.

I wish I had the knowledge/time to dev myself and want to thank those who are working towards S-Off and those who've made the temp-root so easy. I never said I would return mine and have fought for a more tolerant forum and help where I can... It's just troubleshooting and testing.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15260785&postcount=1

And a lot more info from agrabren directly if you look for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
is there a recovery flash ready to drop as soon as we have s-off? I am hoping for AMON but last I heard, it would need to be a PORT as he is not going to develop for 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
When I read that thread I got the impression that fre3dom was still being worked on from shinzul and agrabren. I'm not rereading 22 pages of trolling to get to the quotes you're referring to and your link is only the 1st post.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] ridleyj329:
Hopefully it won't be long before we get ROM manager working full force
[HTC EVO 3D] weezymagic:
If I understand correctly, fre3dom is no longer being worked on because we are very close to s off
[HTC EVO 3D] lewis952:
so is this the sensation ;)

i dont think so :P

We Have s-off for the EVO 3D thanks too AlphaRev X Dev Team
[HTC EVO 3D] tjlawson09:
That picture shows ship s=off. Which means nothing to us. And that's a 3vo.
[HTC EVO 3D] G_Dmaxx:
I second that one, going through this with my 19 year old and it is absolutely unbelievable at times.