yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is interesting, we found on the Rhodium that if BT was enabled in WinMo, it would cause sleep issues in Android. Turning off BT in WinMo, doing a full reboot and then booting Android was what we found was best.

Perhaps the TOPA is different? Anyone care to confirm?

BT is still pretty broken at this point however, so it's not really worthwhile to test at the moment. Some have success with their headsets, others don't get any audio routed.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] burisek:
??

What is the matter? I want it to say that the WIN MO and will remain there as an extension to the Android?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] mweirauch:
WinMo will stay flashed to NAND memory and is not replaced by XDAndroid. XDAndroid will run on the sd card. There is a project going on for the Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium) which allows to flash to NAND. For Topaz nobody has stepped up to add support for it.

So no, you can't flash XDAndroid and replace WinMo on Topaz right now.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Oh. Der. I didn't get that from what he was asking...

C'mon guy. Step up and add support :p. That first call bug is kinda crippling tho, lol.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] burisek:
so I have more knowledge, everything I copy it to your phone including Haret, and anyway I can get to the sd card .... ? it is probably something wrong? advise someone what's wrong?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
What are you talking about? You can't get to your SD card in Android...? There's no USB mass storage yet, everything is running off of the SD card. It's all on the SD... so as far as Android is concerned, the SD card is all that exists, it is internal storage for it.

You can use something like Droid Explorer to fake USB mass storage mode.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] khanh248:
Hey Guys,

I'm wordering that how to install .APK in TOPAZ without file manager? i can't file the way to do that

another question is can we use market?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Of course you can use the Market.

Read the FAQ please. It goes over how to install apps.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] khanh248:
in the second time running android in my Topaz, i couldn't download completely astro manage. But now, after wait in a long time, my download was successed & i can install some Apps.

Thanks a lot.

The touch screen in android Topaz is quite bad, apps run not smooth enough . for example, I always die so quick in " fruit slice" or "fruit ninja":(. have we got any solution to fix this problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
I recommend getting a native Android device if you want to play games. Between the paltry specs on our devices, and the fact that it's a miracle the developers got Android to boot at all on these old devices... all add up to a sub-par gaming experience, among other well-known issues.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] pidrik:
any hint how to set own ringtone in mp3 format? tried to create directories /media/audio/ringtones/ but without any effect.

next problem is with wifi. i cannot connect , it says that my wifi is out of range(but i am next to router). i use wpa2 encryption. when i tried to switch wifi on in WinMo, xdandroid did not boot(halted when booting).

any advise on that? thx
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
I thought you could just place music files on your SD card. Never personally tried, I will here shortly. Edit - Seems you can just add a 'ringtones' folder to your SD card, and Android will pick it up. It didn't show up for me right away, but after a reboot it did. The audio sounded... odd. Not sure what's up, but I'm not on a 'normal' build. Hopefully this works for you.

As for wifi, does it scan? Are you able to "see" your network? I would recommend booting Android with WinMo in Airplane Mode (that's what I do to prevent missing texts, etc.)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] pidrik:
thx aaarrgh. ringtone works like a charm and i finally managed to connect to wifi
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sweet! Enjoy.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] pidrik:
here, again :-( today when my friend called me, i noticed that display did not came up, just black screen (phone did not wake up). phone rings but display does not turn on. any solution for this?

next question: i forced hardware acceleration (by setting a command in startup.txt), but i did not noticed better behavior in for example angry birds. so question is: does that forced hardware acc. help in certain apps , or is it better to turn it off again? (i tried navigon, but i runns a bit laggy)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
It'll wake up eventually, but phone calls are notorious for causing slow wakes. The hard 'answer' button usually helps me here.

Hardware acceleration doesn't need to be "forced". It's always on. You must be reading some ancient information. HW3D has been on my default for a very long time.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] Starsheriff:
Tricky Display Calibration

Hi Guys

Thanks for the Work, right no i startet to reactivate my Topaz because of your Lovely Android ROM. (Possible as an MP3, Nav or wathever)

I have to say that even after Reading these Threads and Posts it was a Little Tricky to figure out the Calibrating of my Display.

Maybe an Hint that you should Watch the Text Running while the ROM (?) Starts first Time for the Calibratie Boxes. (and of Course read it ;) )

Problem is they are showing for an short Time and then are gone Until you Touch the Display...

Anyway Great work!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did uh... you read the first post?

It's pretty clear on the choices you have for calibration. Please follow them.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] Starsheriff:
@Did uh... you read the first post?

Ok and were does it say (for Option 3.)

"If you miss the Boxes Show for 1-2 Sec. you never see them again and have to guess where you have to Tap?"
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did you bother actually reading it!??!?!

Crazy concept. Use an older kernel to calibrate, then go back to the newest. Why is this so hard to grasp? FFS. I'll requote it AGAIN. Note the words in BOLD.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
Hi.

Would you tell me what i need to write in startup file to start FRX07.1?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
My startup file.

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2293

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "rel_path=FRX07 lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz pm.sleep_mode=1"

boot

Don't work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
The topaz one, there's only one.

Define "don't work". Did you set rel_path according to where you have HaRET.exe and the rest...? I assume you extracted everything from the zip? Did you grab ts-calibration!?!?

I need more to go on if you expect any help.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
I extracted FRX07.1 and than in startup file wrote:

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2293

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz pm.sleep_mode=1"

boot

After I did that I started haret.exe. The phone booted Linux but in the process it couldn`t load because it`s impossible to load a file from SD card. You asked me about phone calibration but I can`t reach it. My phone Is model Touch Diamond 2 T5353.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
You're still not answering my questions.

This startup.txt doesn't have a rel_path - are you putting everything at the ROOT of the SD card...? NO FOLDERS!! So if you plug in the card to a card reader it should be (drive:\)HaRET.exe, startup.txt, etc. All at the root of the card, right?

I asked about ts-calibration - not that you manually calibrated, but that you downloaded the calibration file. It's a little annoying to manually calibrate, and I always recommend people try the prebuilt calib file.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
AndroidApps

Conf

STARTUPS

HaRET

Initrd

modules-2.6.27.46-01356-gd4c73bd.tar

rootfs

system.ext2

zImage

Startup In file startup I wrote :

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2293

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz pm.sleep_mode=1"

boot

These files are written on my SD card=

I didn`t use any calibration file.

Please tell me what I need to change or do for starting FRX07.1 Android.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please try the ts-calibration file in the first post, and also don't modify the startup.txt. Just use it from the STARTUPS folder, no changes.

If you got the other version to boot, this one is basically the same. Why are you having so much trouble if you were able to get the other to boot? :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
I did all things that you told me. I start Hared.exe, it begin to load and there is an error: Failed to find rootfs on SD card. You need to unzip a rootfs. Would you explain me step by step how to install FRX07.1? I installed calibration file but it`s still don`t load.

P.S. FRX06 load and work but get battery low of energy very fast and I want to install FRX07.1.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
FRX07.1 won't have much better battery life.

It sounds like a) you don't have a rootfs.img at the root of your card or b) you don't have everything at the root of the card, and you have no rel_path= defined in your startup.txt.

Please re-read the first post.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
Don't work:(((
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please retrace your steps.

I've already answered the reasons for rootfs.img not found. Either you named the file rootfs.img.img or it's not at the root of the card (with everything else). If you've created stuff in a folder, it must have a rel_path= setting in startup.txt.

C'mon, you were able to run FRX06. Nothing has changed as far as the install process goes. It's identical.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] icqlite:
Thanks. It has already worked.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Good, glad to hear it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dunas69:
help!

hi people i have a problem...a put this android in may topaz and worked very well but when someone cal me i cant wear nothing... any solution??

ps: sorry for my english
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
I assuming you mean "hear" not "wear"...

At any rate, try flipping the speakerphone on/off. Unfortunately there's not many devs on TOPA - we had one, but he ended up getting a RHOD and hasn't done much work on TOPA since :p.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dunas69:
yes i will try that when someone call me.. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dunas69:
i try to do that but dont work... :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ok.

As always, make sure you're on the newest everything.

http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates

If all else fails, there's a new GB build in testing that's pretty solid - and the way audio routing is done is completely different, so perhaps it'll work better for you...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dop2010:
I have two problems with Diamond 2, please help..

1. When I start Haret, my phone reboots back into WM.

2. And the worst part - now WM doesn't work well. Home screen doesn't respond to touches, I can only press Start and launch some (not all) programs... And when I close programs, screen is not repainted.

Rebooting doesn't help.

Do I need to hard reset it now? :(

I did all steps from the first post (in fact I repeated them 3 times):

I took a spare 1Gb SD card. Formatted it with HP tool to FAT32, unpacked all files to SD root, updated with latest zImage and rootfs (following instructions from wiki). Copied Topaz\startup.txt to SD root. Inserted SD card into the phone and launched Haret.

Here is a list of files on my SD card:

AndroidApps

conf

STARTUPS

EncFiltLog.menc

HaRET.EXE

initrd.gz

modules-2.6.35.14-93992-g0c91630.tar.gz

rootfs.img

startup.txt

system.ext2

ts-calibration

zImage
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
You're using a .35 kernel, which doesn't work on TOPA.

Please don't change things in the bundle if you don't understand them. Keep the bundle as-is. I'd reboot again for the WinMo issues, dunno about that. But running a kernel that doesn't support your hardware is not a good idea.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] mweirauch:
Ahem, work on .35 started with my TOPA. I didn't even have the RHOD at that time :P

But this crash here might be everything. At that early stage I can only think of monodie detection going wrong.

dop2010, have you even been able to run the bundled .27-acoustic kernel fine? If so, get us a dmesg log from the very early boot process.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
First of all, what are you doing here :p.

Second of all, this is FRX07.1, so no acoustic here mate!

Third, I still want dop2010 to try this bundle as-is without any changes!! Please let us know.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dop2010:
Ok, I tried original bundle and it works! Thanks! :)

Even my game works, unbelievable!! :)

This page on wiki says "It is recommended that you update the various components of XDAndroid with incremental updates" so I thought I should just use the latest files... Are there updates for my hadrware? how can I find them?

What about my second problem with WM? Do you know how to fix it?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] mweirauch:
So you say, in WinCE a bigger part of the panel area does not work? Is this "reproduceable" in any application? Or is this a "launcher" issue. Like Sense going mad?

I know from my TOPA days, that occassionally the Sense install was screwed when coming back to it. To see if this is only a sense issue, switch to that windows launcher thingy. During development I mostly disabled any "launcher" WinCE thingy... (which also gave faster turn-around times ;))
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dop2010:
In home screen I can only press "Start" and top bar icons and two buttons in the bottom of the screen ("Phone" and "Contacts"?).

Everything else doesn't work.

When I press "Start", a list of programs opens, I can scroll it and start some programs (e.g. File Explorer). But I can't start Settings for example - the icon is highlighted, but nothing happens.

And some windows or programs don't disappear from the screen after I close them.

It's hard to explain, but it looks like the screen is not refreshing when it should..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] mweirauch:
That sounds really like a HTC Sense issue. Are you runing a custom Sense install? Like MaxSense or some such? Try resinstalling. Otherwise try toggling the home screen "launcher" in the settings from and to Sense.

Otherwise, I dunno how to resolve this. I usually had to reinstall and was done.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] dop2010:
WM works well now - probably rebooting with proper kernel file fixed it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] kadooosh:
I copied the folder to my sd card and the startup file but is it normal the first boot takes ages?

I'm talking about 1 hour +

I allready restarted it but its been going for a long time now again.

Its still active though I see its doing something.

Sometimes the screen goes black and when I turn the on button its back again(standby?).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did you skip the calibration step? Tap the screen a few times (5 to be exact). It should boot, but your screen will not be configured correctly.

Please re-read the first post, it has instructions on what to do for screen calibration (and is one of the steps to follow for installation :rolleyes:)

For reference, it should take ~10 minutes for the first boot. Anything over 15 is probably not going to finish.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] ais11:
I have installed FRX07.1 on HTC Touch Diamond. Although it seems to be working but every action/click is dead slow. Is it normal on Touch Diamond or am I missing something? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is the TD2 section, not the regular Diamond section.

The regular Diamond only has 192 mb of RAM... So yes, slowness is expected. There's not a lot that can be done - no SD card slot in the DIAM so you can't put in a faster random read/write card... So check my Speed Improvements thread. Might help.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] ais11:
Thanks arrrghhh
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] eclyptos:
Hey Gays, Thanks for the amazing job!

After I saw this thread I pick up from garbage my old Diamond 2 and I copied the bundle into the sd, I hope it still alive again but I start the Android and he is taking too long, 20 minunts now in boot with all this tiny numbers and links.

How long it will boot? :)

Everything Works?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] ebsbow:
First boot takes some time. Next boot should be faster.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] eclyptos:
ok, but here is momething wrong, now is 1 hour and I think the boot go in loop, at the end of tiny stripes is always; mdp_dma: busy :confused:

I think I have to repeat all again.

---------- Post added at 08:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 PM ----------

Guys, something not right! I deleted the last one Android and I installed a fresh one but he do not want to boot, he still in booting and in looping.

Somebody have or had this problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] eclyptos:
ok, I find the problem in booting the Android, after I launch the app into the boot appear this:

"Filed: rootfs.img not find in SD card" :confused: (the file is there)

..and after this point the boot go in loops and I have to pull out the battery.

Someone can help me to understand where is the problem, thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] eclyptos:
ARE YOU READY?

am I stupid? YES, I am stupid duck, idot, I should find different hobbie!

I forgot to put the cmdline "rel_path=Androids" into the startup.txt, now the Android start fantastically!

Now all of you are free to insult me!! Yes, you can!

:angel:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] latinohot:
None of us are perfect, that's all I can say

sent from: an universe built by Sean;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] eclyptos:
I don't know if you know this issue but this FRX07.1 is hungry of my battery! :p

I can say my battery life is about 12 hours and if I leave the phone in standby he crash dead.

I came late to work this morning! :angel:

Any fix?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] zooster:
I don't know emwe, but I did try both kernels and with 20110718_223029 topaz can boot... with 20110716_005117 it doesn't :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ok, I thought you meant the other way around. That 20110718 kernel won't boot and 20110716 will - it seems I got mixed up in the signals.

Oh, and sorry about the confusion - I didn't notice he uses a different handle here!

mweirauch = emwe ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] elmanortega:
arrrghh this is not working for me

i install titanum nrgz rom for a nice little rom

install all files in the root of sd card

click on haret nothing happens

airplane on

tis is what i get

haret version pre blabla bla bla sorry too much

launch a script file. default path.....default.txt run

start waiting for connection on port 9999 .......listen for network connection

found machine topaz

what can i do?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
You don't have a startup.txt (or it's empty?)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] bigheadlyf:
It's great that we got a Topa thread! Thanks arrrghhh!

Just copy my post to here from RHOD section...

I am playing with the "old" kernel - 1332(htc-msm-linux @ 20110622_180615) and the bundled rootf, all functionality work well, i would like to have a try with the newest kernel and rootf :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
1. Battery meter is crazy, yes. It doesn't account for peripherials - as in wifi, data, BT, etc - so it bounces around and has to 'normalize'. There was some work to calibrate batteries, but unfortunately it was never accepted mainline... Not sure what's going to come of it, AFAIK he only got it working on RHOD :(.

2. Explain.

3. Yea, I've heard of that issue... I've already added it to the caveat list in fact ;).

4. No clue, need more explanation.

What's holding you back from the newest stuff? Give it a shot, it should work fine.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] bigheadlyf:
Tasted the new kernel and rootf, work well and I feel my Topaz runs much smooth ;)

For #2, The Microsoft Exchange account lost twice after reboot, both mails and calender were missing in my Topaz, i need to set it up again in Setting->Accounts&Sync, it seem like a Android issue, but not the build?

Since there is no any 3G network in my hometown, I would like to make the phone work only under 2G network, I suppose it might save few battery with Toggle 2G:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=739530

It works well in FRX06, however, I got a message "Application not installed" when i want to install it in FRX07...

Found some text in that application thread:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sounds like an Android issue... I sync with Google and it's never just disappeared...

Why don't you just use the built-in settings for 2g...?

Also, have you tried installing the app with the new rootfs?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] bigheadlyf:
Yes, i could use the built-in setting to toggle 2G only, however, it's temporary, the setting will back to default/auto after reboot.

Got the same message with the new rootf (7.21) :(

Anyway, thanks so much for looking into these "issues" ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] elmanortega:
here is what i have

androidapps

conf

startups

topaz

haret

initrd

modules-2.6.27.46

rootfs

system

zimage

what im missing?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] vyis:
i dont see STARTUP.TXT, where you suppose to go into startups folder, find topaz and copy the txt file to your android root.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
This ^^.

As I said before, either your startup.txt is not present or empty. Seems "not present" is the answer.

Re-read the first post. It's pretty clear that you need to grab a startup.txt file from the STARTUPS folder.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] MusikMonk:
Good work putting everything together. Let's hope that this thread won't get flooded with the same questions over and over again like the old one.

Anyway, I've just gave the pack a test (with latest kernel), I still haven't played with everything just yet but so far so good. Except for this:

The ts-calibration file provided is mirrored (left is right, right is left, top and bottom are correct).

The one here seems to be good (not 100% precise but good enough for usability).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] ZOrd_Z:
I'm testing it. Working very good...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ah, thanks! I'll put this file instead...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
hi to all,

my FRX07 work good, all work, only 1 not work is picotts.apk for vocal control for call, and any solution for save battery with gps and bluetooth 7 houre.

Thanks all reply me.

sorry for my english
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] 1edge1:
Led Effects

Has anyone any idea how well LedEffects on Frx07 cause it was not usable on Frx06?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
for me not work
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Android Development] Random667:
Working great!

Thanks!