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[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
FLIPPING CLOCK FOR WILDFIRE -- Taken from SFM 1.1--

This is a bug free Sense clock (Flipclock) for the wildfire taken from the SFM 1.1 ROM.The clock behaves as the normal HTC clock(Tapping either takes you to Desk clock app or weather app) but has added FLIPPING animation :cool: .I have used it for a few hours and havent noticed any bugs.All credits to evilisto and someone else's zip file( i didn't know how to sign or whatever them).Brickbats are for me.:p

To be performed at your own risk.

This requires a rooted wildfire with recovery(i used CWM 2.5.0.7) and any SENSE rom

(I havent tried it on any other rom)

Please follow the instruction or u MAY have a TINY problem.

1.Make a nandroid backup

2.The previous HTC sense flipclock (only the big(4x2) thing with white squares on which Time is diplayed in black) widget should be somewhere on ur homescreens and preferably there should be an empty row beneath it.(U'll later learn y;))

3.Put attached Sense21clock.zip onto sdcard root

4.Reboot into recovery and use " Install zip from sdcard" and select the file and confirm.Reboot Device.

5. Voila.U are done.Enjoy The SENSuous flipping animation when u unlock the phone and when u patiently wait for each minute to pass.

This has a problem though:(. U can no longer see the clock in ur widgets list.But since u already have it, that shouldn't be a problem:D) .Also the empty row of icons was required because the clock becomes 4x3 now, But it displays date, day, time, weather and location.

if u ever want to revert back the clock u will have to reflash the older OLDSenseclock.zip

Tested on DK Froyo 4.5.1 . Animation may be a bit jittery at stock speeds(528 Mhz)(esp after unlocking device) or that may be just me.Excuse the SMS language inputs.

For those with strange weather animations

(i mean like those in post number 7's attachments)

solved by patrask-Freeze HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk with Titanium Backup or

0.Make nandroid backup

1.Ensure u have a file HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk in ur system\apps directory (Use root explorer or something)

2.Remove HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk by following instructions from this link

http://iamandroid.com/profiles/blogs/guide-android-how-to-easily

3.Reboot.It might take a while to reboot so take a coffee break.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] EchoVelocity:
This will not work on non-sense based ROMS.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] kenchi27:
tested it and yes you are right that there's a bit of excess lines at the center of each number when you've restored it from the locked screen. There's a similar one that I've been using which was taken from desireHD and ported it over the WF.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=960189

The problem with it is that the weather is cropped beneath the City and the Date but you can remove it and place it again as a widget.

Thanks anyway.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] geigi:
@rrbhootham

thanks very much! Its great ;)

Could you try to port the sfm 1.1 lockscreen(sense 3.0) for our sense roms? Just flashing the htclockscreen.apk doesnt work...
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
Thanks for checking.At least one more reason to stick to sense roms.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
That weather thing is why i didn't prefer that clock.It looked a bit unpolished.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Marshall07:
Nice clock. It works pretty good, but there is a problem with the weather animation (see the pictures below). It seems that the weather graphics are missing. Is there anyway to embed them, or at least a way to disable the weather animation?

Marshall
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Titchen:
The border needs a bit of refining :(
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
:eek: Sorry. I never had the chance to use the weather as it is never available for my location.I'll look into it.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
Did u change any opengl files of ur phone?Any live wallpaper fixes?That could be one of the reasons.And by the way weather animations are not supposed to work on the wildfire(AFAIK without any 3rd party stuff).What rom are u using?What weather is that bug for?
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Marshall07:
Hi rrbhootham,

I'have JockerDroid 4.2 and I installed the WildPuzzle Original Framework in order to restore the original framework since I didn't like some customizations made by the JockerDroid ROM.

Most probablly the wheater animation problem is caused by that patch. I'll try reflasching the ROM to check if the problem persist.

Anyway it would be interesting

if someone else

is having the weather animation working properly.

Please, check the video in the attachement for another demonstration of the weather error.

Marshall
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] johnpushon:
Im also having weather animation problems, if someone had figured out a way how to fix it, please respond as soon as possible :)

Thanks in advance...
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
Hello Marshall,

I was googling around and i found this http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...g-weather-animation-issues-w-latest-leak.html . The thread says this might be due to any graphics fixes. If u check JokerDroid 4.2's changelog there are graphics fixes mentioned, and that might be for the transparency of the menus and stuff and i believe this messes the transparency of the older weather animations.it might not have anything to do with the framework pack. i'll keep looking into this.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Marshall07:
Thanks rrbhootham. I hope you'll get through this... :)

EDIT:

I found this thread http://geekfor.me/hero/fixes/rosie-lwp-fix-opengl/ where they're talking about OpenGL fix which is used to enable Livewallpapers but introduces the weather animation bug.

In the thread there is also a patch to revert back to the old OpenGL but I'm not sure if it will work for our Wildfire since it is for the Eris.

As soon as I can I'll try that patch (after a nandroid backup, of course) too see if it works...

Marshall
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
Hello Marshall,

That might break ur JokerDroid Rom so i recommend u remove HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk from ur phone's system\app directory with adb.U can follow this link for details http://iamandroid.com/profiles/blogs/guide-android-how-to-easily . After that weather animation will no longer work(properly or improperly).
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] patrask:
I freezed it with titanium backup, worked well.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Marshall07:
Freezed it too and now the weather animation has gone. Thanks 1K!

Anyway it would be nice to fix the animation so we can have this feature too. Do you think it would be possible, rrbhootham?

Marshall
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] laraz:
yes that worked as well cool nice 1 :D
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] zephyri-xr:
I have questions.

Did you add an 0 before the 1 digit hours? like 9:07 -> 09:07 or 3:15 -> 03:15

Sometimes I come across a Clock bug on stock Froyo. The date and weather info is on the lower right of the widget by default but sometimes it comes to lower center. Did something like this happened?

Another bug with original Clock is when you remove the widget sometimes the transparent base stays on the home. Did this happened too?

That's all. Thx in advance.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] rrbhootham:
That is a long shot but well worth trying.A better scenario is sfm getting released.I'm jobless now so i'll see what i can do.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Marshall07:
Thanks thousands rrbhootham! I'm looking forward!! :)

Marshall
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] imkr:
Does it also work on CM7?
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] tomekrk92:
No, its working only with sense roms
[Galaxy S II Android Development] svetius:
Hey everyone,

We've made a small change to this forum by giving it a different name. This is now the *default* Android development forum for Galaxy S II. Any works that are completely original will be filed in the Original Android Development forum. Everything else will go here.

We have a more long-term solution to the ROM situation in the works. It'll be a database-driven ROM upload tool that will make it super easy for users to find and rate the ROMs that you upload. You'll be hearing more about this in the coming months.

For now, please continue to provide feedback. Thank you for your help in making XDA a more organized place.

Thanks! :cool:

P.S. If you think your ROM should be placed in the Original Android Development forum, send me a PM.

Edit from noppy22: this thread is no longer relevant so I unstuck it...
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tomj777:
Sveitus,

I am dissapointed that the original explainatory thread was closed without reason after it was collecting opposing comments. Not cool.

I believe what you've posted (not done, I am confident that this was done with some consultation, somewhere) should be discussed in a wider context.

To that end, I've opened a thread in the XDA general forum with an admittedly emotive title "First and Second Class ROMS, 1st, 2nd class users". Please track this thread, assuming it's not lost amidst the noise.

I would have posted my concerns in the original notification thread except...

What gives?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kryptoner:
Just imagine someone from sensation comes here and sees two development threads... :D

Sensation owners must be jealous by now..
[Galaxy S II Android Development] khein:
But why is this only done on the GALAXY S2 subforums? Please, implement this on all phone subforum. I want to see how others would react. :)

Still think this is a stupid idea. If devs don't want other devs recycling their works, better not publish it. Or you can just close the thread of the ROM that was derived from an another ROM without permission/due credit.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] giokou:
The current situation is not something new to all of us.

There were always have been such ''issues'' among the rom developers.

xda team the way you chose to work this out is not good at all.

I'm starting to think that you don't listen to the majority of the users...

You hear a few dev's that probably are jealous of others...

This is not right for the community.

I personally am not supporting anyone particularly, but you must find another solution.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] RE795:
I 100% support this view...

If this is the case, then no custom roms should be in "original" section, as they are all derived from the stock manufacturer's roms.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] jlevy73:
All hell would break lose and their would be a mass exodus of developers and some pissed off members.

And why was the other thread closed. Perhaps XDA didn't like that all the negative PR they were getting. This plan was poorly conceived and executed. And to make it worse, XDA is being the judge, jury and executioner.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] zikarus:
I am quite disappointed that this unjustified separation and disqualification of some devs work is still not corrected. You justified your step by "feedback" asking for it. I believe you are severely misleading people here.

You earned a lot of justified feedback in the first thread being deleted meanwhile and still you don't get things sorted out.

It is obviously totally wrong to piss off devs and force them to prove they are not guilty of what you may think. It ought to be the other way around: you should have a prove to claim what you state before you behave (and take action) the way you did. Some kind of US wild west mentality around here. I understand when people think that you only try to protect some of the devs being closer to you or being longer active on xda than some others. The selection of Roms being put to one or the other section proves that already since there seems to be no logic behind your decisions. Some early birds being put to the second class thread while some others who have just released quite usual stuff but were active with other hardware before have been put to the first class thread. And till now no kind of explanation why this or that Rom has been put here or there? What about Litenin e.g. which has been asked for a dozen times in the first, deleted thread ?

And above all: what kind of guilt do you think of ?

We are talking about open source here and all Roms are derived from Samsung stuff except for CM / MIUI. So where does originality start and where does it end? And who may decide: Even if a custom ROM was copied from another custom one in the first step it might have become an own developement over time.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] DaveShaw:
The other thread was closed because it was a discussion on the Derived ROMs Forum format, which as you state wasn't what we hoped it would be. So, changed the forum format. The old discussion was closed and a new one started to discuss this iteration. The thread was also started and stuck by svetius.

The thread hasn't been deleted, it's been closed. The reasons (while obvious) are above.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] mostyle:
Clearer..

<sarcasm>

This titling does make it clearer..

Example:

Original Development: CM7

It's built from the ground up with a myriad of coded additions to be a truly 'Original' product.

Development: Everything else

All other ROMS are stock deodexed upgrades.

</sarcasm>
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Pacifiste95:
Don't like this idea...

:(
[Galaxy S II Android Development] zikarus:
Closed or deleted - did not see it but no big difference anyway.

And there is nothing obvious neither about the closing nor the separation.

If you like to install a new tool do so. Build it, introduce it. Till then leave things as they were, stop separation and maybe excuse for the mess you produced by an unbiased decision... My 5 ct
[Galaxy S II Android Development] nilezon:
I really don't understand what an "original ROM" is. Google wrote the only original Android ROM imho.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] mynameisjon:
here's a thought.

Villain Rom Lite is in "original" even though it's clearly based off VillainRom.

There's CLEAR favoritism going on here.

It should either be merged with the original or moved. It's just the same ROM with removed apps. How is that "original"?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] efato:
Simple Result:

As far as I see; Some devs are out of business and as far as I feel, more to be...
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pulser_g2:
Uhm actually the fact that thread was buried a few pages until yesterday meant svetius may have missed it. Moved it across.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] DANDANA:
That's grand, we don't have derivated roms anymore, we have originals and others (stolen, fakes, not so cool). I like the way mods are listening...
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Major_Sarcasm:
I must admit, the way the mods have chosen to separate the two development sections doesn't sit well with me at all. The criteria for which section a ROM goes in to is very subjective and open to various interpretations, all of which are prone to the moderator's possible bias.

Strictly speaking, only one or two ROMs are 'original development' and belong in that section. All the others are derivatives in some way or another.

A better way to clean up the dev forum would be to have a couple of sub-sections; perhaps one for all ROMs (regardless of source), one for kernels and related modifications and another for android-specific modifications. Then, be strict about enforcing the sub-section criteria. Also, ask ROM chefs to state in their OP whether the ROM is based on another ROM and to credit the original developer/chef.

Everything else goes in Themes & Apps.

Also, having a mandatory format for thread titles (a la the HD2 forum) is an excellent way to keep things tidy and ensure that people know when a new release has been posted and what the releases are based upon. It worked over in HD2 rather well I thought. After coming from an HD2 to the S2, I thought that the S2 forums were a little untidy to say the least.

Ok, serious mode off, back to my usual sarcastic self.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] TheBishopOfSoho:
OK, I dont agree with the splitting of the forums, but its not my decision and will go along with it. One thing that does really annoy me and needs to be fixed is that this new forum doesnt show up on the android app. Can that be fixed? I like keeping up with a few roms here and am usually on the move.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Major_Sarcasm:
No harm in disagreeing! If enough people disagree, the mods may relent on this decision.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pulser_g2:
This happens for any new forum added.

You would need to refresh it. Sometimes it's necessary to log out and back in again.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] bazzio:
Exactly my thoughts...What's so different about the new index:confused:

What i have said in the closed topic and many others have said; better make categories like ROMS, MODS, KERNELS..etc. It's tidy and you don't piss anybody off. Quitting devs (what already happened) is the last thing the users want.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] crs87:
I like the idea. Original ROM developers deserve their own place! It also started to be total ROM invasion, this makes it easier to find what you are looking for.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] TheBishopOfSoho:
Most of them arent original ROM's though. They are derived out of stock roms. I think the definition that the mods are using here should be clarified.

Some roms have custom kernels that have been rebuilt from source, but still the majority all derive from stock roms (And is indicated in that they are KG1/2, KF1, KF2 etc)

I would have thought that examples of "original" roms in the truest sense of the word would be MIUI and CM7.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] mynameisjon:
Lets face if. If a dev doesn't have "recognised", that dev is just gonna be thrown into this "derivative" forum.

I have't seen any ROM in the so called "original" forum that even comes close to being an original ROM apart from CM and MIUI. They're all the same rehash of Samsung's stock with CF's Kernel (but they "rebuilt" it from source oh wow) and some battery mod here and then, then deodexed and have the "better battery life included" tag thrown in to entice users.

Same s**t different name but it still smells the same.

This re-organization is just an excuse.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] yousif666:
+1

I agree with u.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] rajid187:
I don't see how having two dev forums can possibly benefit us members, whatever their titles! It just means that now I've got two lists of threads to look through not one.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] criskelo:
+1

:D:D:D
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tbong777:
A vote here for liking the idea. Although its clear ALL ROMS came from Samsung. Some developers start with SAMSUNG STOCK and build from it. Some developers have been around along time and will likely stick around while others may release a couple variations and leave.The long term recognized developers in my opinion should have their own place to release their wares. Some even have their own Websites and forums.

There should be a clear delineation between those developers and those who take one of THOSE builds and customize it for the first time.

For example as a user of DG's ROMS from stock builds I can follow his work and others who build from Samsung stock in one thread and then see what others are creating from those stock builds in a separate thread.

It can get rather confusing because there are so many ROMS. Those who have been around awhile know who the "trusted" long term developers are and stick with them.

When I was new to this last year on the Captivate I looked for the threads with the most posts and views and those developers who had the most followers were those I deemed trustworthy as I did not know enough to even get out of a minor soft brick.

When I got my SGS2 I did the same and discovered only three developers I thought would be a good place to start. Nevertheless I started my flashing Odyssey with a DG ROM because of his work on the Captivate. When I completely understand the differences between the branded Captivate and unbranded unlocked SGS 2 i9000, I will venture out and try more ROMS. But I will still look for original ROM builders and having a thread for them is helpful.

Kernels should have their own thread as well and developers in both threads should give credit to the developing kernel source. (other than Samsung)and state what they may or may not have changed.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Lennyuk:
No one has ever said (at least no one important) that the mere fact that a rom is based on stock does not make it original.

Original roms are roms that offer something different from the others

Take VillainRom for example, was the first custom rom for the SGS2, the first deodexed rom... and it continues to offer something unique in VillainRom Tweaks, many of the tweaks which were made by users and team members of VillainRom (and has it's own kernel on the way thanks to Ninpo). This is why this is considered an original rom.

No rom in the other section has this, the way they have tried to look "original" is by adding a new theme...font...whatever in some cases it is just simply adding some apps you can download from the market for free anyway... these just clutter the real development work making real important threads harder to find (and lets face it the search feature on xda is largely useless).

Now I will leave you with this question.

If all you people complaining about the switch are correct, how come no "devs" in this "subsection" have complained ey? why is it just the users of these so called "lesser roms"?

Grow up
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Kendoji:
Although I can see that making the distinction could be problematic in some cases, I'm in favour of the new division. It's a contentious but imo workable solution to the onslaught of custom ROMs we saw recently, many of them virtually identical with only theme or bundled app modifications.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] AkkerDK:
So according to You, only VillainROM is "worthy" of being in the Original ROM forum? Maybe CM too?

Or which other ROMs still in Original ROM forum, offers what You seem to think makes VillianROM an original ROM?

To Your question;

I have seen at least 3-4 dev's complaining, and at least one dev (Novek, another Recognized Developer) has closed his ROM thread and left SGS II development, so You are talking absolutely nonsense here.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Lennyuk:
well to start off

MIUI

CM

Villainrom

they are the easy ones

the rest need to be assessed to see if they offer something unique that is not a theme, or change of apps. It is not my job to asses it is the mods job based on what they see and get told.

Well if some mods have publicly made clear they do not like the change and/or left as you said then I know for a fact large numbers of xda mods are not aware of it so they obviously did not voice themselves very well did they?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ante0:
Meh, I've seen devs posting 3 different roms. All basically the same except for the theme. And it's exactly the same fixes/tweaks that all other roms have.

So it would save time and bandwidth of not having to flash a whole new rom when you can just flash a theme. And since almost all roms are basically the same you'd only need one theme for almost all roms.