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[Nook Color General] sd180:
Hi All- This is my first time on the Nook forum, I'm usually snooping around the Epic forums because I have one. I'm posting this on the Nook Color General and Dev forums.

I just saw this earlier and began to wonder...

http://www.nook2android.com/purchase-nook2android-cards/

and

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...-nook-into-full-android-tablet/?tag=cnetRiver

And I also noticed some people selling these cards on ebay.

Are these guys just profiting from the work of devs on this forum or is it a legit product that is put out by the original coders?

B/c if it's just some hack who is stealing the devs' work, the devs should seriously sue these guys and others like them.

At the least, the devs should send a cease and desist letter to these guys, to paypal, to amazon to not receive payment. If they're stealing your work, that's really f'd up.
[Nook Color General] AidenM:
These guys made a bootable Android sd card for Nook and sold it. You can make it yourself in 10-15 minutes. They are ripping off a devs work in my opinion. It's like selling oxygen to those who can't look for it themselves.
[Nook Color General] mrkavanagh:
the fact that google market place is included with the sdcard I think the guy will probably get a visit from Google.
[Nook Color General] Taosaur:
I do question whether these cards are violating Google's licensing terms, but I have no problem with what the guy is doing, at least not now that he's acknowledging that the software is not his own work and all he's providing is the service of setting it up. Added to the N2A front page yesterday:

In addition to selling the cards, he appears to be providing decent support after the sale, so I'd say it's a reasonable value.
[Nook Color General] AidenM:
Yeah yeah sure but selling something free? It doesn't make sense. They should actually pay Cyanogen for each SD sold.
[Nook Color General] sprout703:
Agreed!!! Cyanogen deserves royalties!
[Nook Color General] sd180:
I just feel bad for the devs who put this all together. Some guy random pops up and is making a profit on something these guys spend hours to provide as a free benefit to this community.

If the devs involved don't mind, of course it's not a big deal.

However, if I were the devs, I would be pissed. (But then yet, I'm talentless and can't code Hello World into a vb text box... but that's another story.)

In addition to violating the terms of service that Google has out regarding the Android Market, these guys are also violating the intellectual property/copyright of the devs. Just because they're providing a service and some support, doesn't mean they're not improperly stepping on a few feet to do it.

Or maybe I'm just looking at this from too legal a perspective. Still, if I were the devs, I would be pissed and want it to stop.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
They only added that AFTER the outrage expressed on the Engadget (and other) articles that exposed them ripping off other dev's work. Sorry, but it is still a sham..
[Nook Color General] Taosaur:
Yeah, hence my statement:

I would have been more impressed if he'd been more up-front from the start, too, but where exactly is the "sham" now that he's outright telling people they could do the same thing for free? As long as he's accepting the tech support headaches that come with setting up something like CM7 for someone else--and to all appearances, he is--more power to him.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
The sham is that they only had the nerve to admit to it they the community called em out on it. They should have been open from the start (or better yet, never tried profiteering at all...)...
[Nook Color General] sikesjb:
If they can do it, why can't we?

If everyone pulled together and pushed our own sd cards for the price of the card value, could possibly force them to drop their ripoff all together......

I'm glad they have given credit, but its still BS. These sites pushing this info should be pushing instructions on how to get involved to have more of an appreciation of whats been done.
[Nook Color General] Rogue Leader:
I think what makes this worse than the ebay and craigslist guys is that engadget and cnet and the fact hes on Amazon have given this guy legitimacy when he deserves none.
[Nook Color General] Taosaur:
rabblerabblerabble!
[Nook Color General] sikesjb:
LMAO! Wheres my torch?!
[Nook Color General] sd180:
I posted this on the dev forum too. I shouldn't have done that. Now I have two threads going.

hoban_eris made the following comment there:

Credit is given...

http://www.nook2android.com/

"We would like to be sure and give credit where credit is due. Nook2Android uses a modded version of Google Android called CM7 for the Nook Color. CM7 is created by a group of developers known as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod is dedicated to providing the highest quality Android mods for the Android cell phone and tablet community.

Another group to acknowledge is XDA Developers. XDA is a huge group of Android developers creating new features and bug fixes for CM7 and other projects. Both groups offer their software and updates for no charge under the Android Open Source Project and the GNU Public License. These licenses allow Nook2Android to legally use, distribute, and support their software and updates.

Instructions on how to do this yourself are available free of charge on their websites. When you buy a Nook2Android card you are purchasing the highest quality Sandisk MicroSD card and all the services to get Android and the added features as perfect as you would expect. You are not purchasing the software as it is provided free of charge under the licenses mentioned above."

If people want to pay someone to do the work for them, that's fine by me...they are paying for a service.

and my response was:

Again- I'm only bringing this up because I wasn't sure if this seller is being shady or what... I am not a developer and it is of course no skin off my back. A part of me just felt bad that there was the possibility of someone profiting off the work of devs who were providing us with this service.

From a licensing standpoint, your point about GPL is actually what got me concerned. If the creator software offers it for free under the GPL, a 3rd party CANNOT then take it and turn it into a paid product. Of course it all depends on the specific licensing terms, but just because it's free under the GPL doesn't mean its free for a 3rd party to come and exploit. That actually goes against what the entire GPL, open software, CC, etc movements are all about. And just because it's bundled with an SD card, doesn't mean you're paying for the SD solely.

But again- if the devs have no issues with it, it's fine.

My post was more a question about whether or the original coders where behind this or whether it was someone who came along and is sponging off the work of good people.
[Nook Color General] Maxy_Maxy:
I'm interested in this but has no idea how to make our own SD card like Nook2Android!
[Nook Color General] Taosaur:
He's not selling a product, and really never was even when he wasn't making the facts clear. Now, however, it's spelled out explicitly in the text you quoted:

He's providing third-party installation and technical support, which is hardly unheard-of with software, free or otherwise. If the rumors of his being a Geek Squad member are true, it's exactly the same thing he does at his day job.
[Nook Color General] Moshe5368:
Guys, I know this may be a sore spot for some of you, think about it. If you have ever looked at or run ubuntu software, you must have seen disks for sale with the software on them. Sure, you can download the software free and set it up yourself but what this guy is doing is providing a service, not providing software. He takes upon himself, tech support responsibilities and support of the product he is selling. I have worked in tech support for computer shops and have provided instillation of software for a fee. I did not write the software nor did I provide any software of my own. What I did provide was a service and those people who either cannot or will not do this themselves will pay someone else for their time and knowledge. This is basic economics. His disclaimer and recoginition of the devs who work so hard to provide this software releases him of legal issues. Read the GPL and check out AOSP before preparing the stake to roast this guy on. Just sayin.....
[Nook Color General] dabiddabird:
According to what Google has to say about this is that the core google apps and the android market are closed source and require licensing.

From the android site,

"Once you've built a compatible device, you may wish to include Android Market to provide your users access to the third-party app ecosystem. Unfortunately, for a variety of legal and business reasons, we aren't able to automatically license Android Market to all compatible devices. To inquire about access about Android Market, you can contact us."

Augen Electronics found out this the hard way and took heat from the media and Google when they release a tablet that included the android market without the ok from Google.

It is interesting though to see where this leaves our Nook tablets as BN doesn't technically have a license to the Android Market. Yes they have their own market but it does not include the "closed source" items such as core google apps and the actual android market. Of course they aren't providing the Android Market so don't need that license now do they.

All seems so complicated though, like how does this licensing apply to say......Nook2Android when they provide sd cards with the Android Market?

But then again it doesn't stop us from having it :P
[Nook Color General] Goferbroke:
Isn't there an alternative?

Even if Google made them pull GAPPS, all that would be needed is a link/scrip that would allow new users to install the Amazon App Market (along with any instructions necessary).

That should protect them from the lawyers, and I think it's a good incentive for Google not to get involved. I don't think they would like a bunch of devices that are Amazon App Market only.
[Nook Color General] Goferbroke:
As far as the Google core Apps, I'm not sure there's an issue if you don't walk over Google's Android trademarks (call your device an Android device) and don't use the Android market; here's the FAQ from Android Open Source:

http://source.android.com/faqs.html#compatibility

And the following:

"Is compatibility mandatory?

No. The Android Compatibility Program is optional. Since the Android source code is open, anyone can use it to build any kind of device. However, if a manufacturer wishes to use the Android name with their product, or wants access to Android Market, they must first demonstrate that the device is compatible."
[Nook Color General] dabiddabird:
Why would the end users (like us) install the amazon market instead of just installing the android market like we already do. If Google did make them pull gapps they could just provide instructions of where to get it, no need for amazon app store as an alternative.

Im just saying that technically Google can claim the sd card is a device and force them to pull the android market and Google apps from their product. But even then that won't stop the user from installing it after purchase anyways. The whole point is that the manufacturer of a device can not preload Google apps or market to their device or software without a license. Individual users is a different story.

And if Google decides to do nothing it wouldn't be because they are afraid of loosing users to the Amazon App store lol with 400,000+ activations a day they could care less. To add to that the Amazon App Store is closed source as well, it can't be preloaded or modified on a device either.
[Nook Color General] dabiddabird:
Yeah anyone can use the Android platform. If I wanted to i could make a new phone and have it run android all I want. But the minute I add Gmail, Google maps, Google voice, etc and the market I need a license from Google.

Also N2A is clearly including the Android market and Google apps on their device. They say so themselves lol

Will Google likely do something about this........I doubt it, but they could.
[Acer Iconia A500] bonzer2u:
download iconia recovery app from market, has an option to flash the stock recovery as well....
[Acer Iconia A500] codemansGT:
I could try that but it gives the update number for android 3.01 i belive it lists update rom 1.141.7. I dont want to do that i belive.
[Acer Iconia A500] stanaka1:
did you modify the wpa supplicant file or the email.wpk? you'll have to restore the originals before you can update.
[Acer Iconia A500] codemansGT:
of u know what I did modify the wpa file ill have to change that and try it thanks for reminding me.

P.s. tried that and it still failed.
[HTC Desire S] sayeed91:
i have just installed the virtuous unity rom v.1.29. its amazing

1. when i update to the new installment will all my data be wiped such as apps etc?

2. ive seen some kernal, unity something do i need to flash this aswell?

3. ive backed up my previous stock rom on my sd card. is it possile to move the clockwork folder to the computer which contains the back up and then move it back if i need to restore?

Thanks for your time, i know i know ive got very little experience lol :)
[HTC Desire S] Deleted member 2496007:
1. A flash over the top with no wipe will keep your apps. If however the dev has done an update with a new base, a wipe is recommended.

2. Do a nandroid backup and try the kernel. I get fantastic battery life on coredroid with it.

3. Yes but NEVER rename the folder else it will never restore. It will fail on md5 checksum error.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
If you wanna backup your apps, use Titanium Backup. It's awesome, use it all the time. It also backs up data.

Also, you need to manually wipe all data before you flash

Kernel is optional, but you should try it.

About the backup - put it in the PC, i have. If you ever wanna delete the backup from your phone but want to keep it on your PC, then delete the contents of the backup folder in the phone, not the folder itself. I have 2 backups on my phone right now. Consumes waaaaay too much space. Got 5 on my PC
[HTC Desire S] sayeed91:
OK..... So if I use titanium backup now for some apps and install another Tom it will be there even if I wipe data and stuff?
[HTC Desire S] sayeed91:
So with virtuous unity does it reproduce the same battery life as stock
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
no. You need to restore the apps.
[HTC Sensation] elcapt:
there is games for 540x960 ?
[HTC Sensation] shammanCZ:
basically any game you buy from Gameloft via phone browser .. so far i've tested Asphalt 6 HD, Dungeon Hunter 2, Asassins Creed 2 HD, Avatar HD, Prince of Persia HD, UNO HD, Angry Birds (freeware) there are also some shooters, one is called something like N.O.V.A or whatever, but iam not realy into shooters. Theres one small, yet annoying (at least for me) problem with games from gameloft, if uou buy it you'll get like 100MB installer which one will download additional usualy 750MB-1GB and since gameloft dwnload speed suck monkey tralala, its like pain in ass and takes ages.
[HTC Sensation] Mainspring:
all the Gameloft games are gorgeous graphics wise.

like they say on their ads, very polished.

Angry Birds look great as well. especially Rio.

not sure any of them are native qhd resolution but they look great.
[HTC Sensation] yangas:
Now that the Samurai II Vengence has support for qHD displays in version 1.01 i recommend u buy it aswell, very nice game with brilliant graphics :)
[HTC Sensation] PurpleSkyz:
Cut The Rope, great game, beautiful in QHD, even nicer than on my iPhone4

and a not well know but my most preferred game, Nano Panda, gooorrgeous.
[HTC Sensation] Mainspring:
got it... it's freaking gorgeous!

bloody too. :p
[HTC Sensation] shammanCZ:
btw, if anyone of you here decides to buy a Gameloft game please visit http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1177390 to check if you cant help me.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
My downloads from them have been very fast.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmsera1:
Hi all,

I used this forum to orginally root my Evo 4G and everything went just fine. I used the Auto-root program and put the Rom (Fresh 3.5.0.1) on my phone. All was well and I had a very good experience with all of this.

I noticed that under the apps section there was a "Fresh Updater" and I went into that about a week ago and found there was a new version of the Rom so I downloaded it and booted into recovery ... did a wipe and then installed the new Rom (fresh-evo-4.0b3.zip).

Since then I've noticed a few problems here and there such as:

1) In notifications Google Maps update is at 44% and never will finish no matter what I do.

2) Batter life has gone down quite a bit.

3) Things seem to be much slower (for instance when I want to get out of the text message app it takes about 500% longer after hitting the back button twice where as before it was almost instant.)

4)The icon for GPS is at the top status bar with a \ through it.

Along with several other oddities.

So... I went out here and found there was newer version that was GingerBread (for Fresh Rom) and I downloaded that and the new radios file.

Fresh-evo-4.2.0.0.zip

I wanted to do the same as I did before and wipe it and then install the new radio file and the 4.2 fresh rom.

My problem is that when I hold down the power button I do not get the option as I used to, which was to boot to recovery. So... I did a power off and held the power button and the volume down button down to get to recovery that way... and it never boots... as long as you hold the buttons it just stays with a black screen. As soon as you release both of them it starts to boot but does not give you any options.

I'm not the best at all of this... so any help on how to get back to a good state would be awesome.

Thanks,

Brian
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmsera1:
"Software Information" per the phone

Android version 2.3.3

Baseband version 2.15.00.11.19

Build number Fresh Evo 4.0 Beta 3

Software number 4.12.651.1

PRI Versioin 1.90_003

PRL Version 01115

Thought people might ask for some of that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rlh82:
Easy solution. Gingerbread comes with a "quick boot" setting. In order to boot into recovery, you'll need to turn that setting off.

I don't use Fresh, but generally this option is located either in menu/settings/apps or menu/settings/power. If you can't find it, you could alternately download ROM Manager from the market and use it to reboot into recovery. You can flash either Clockwork Recovery or AmonRA from within ROM Manager as well.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: I didn't explain this, but just in case it doesn't go without saying, the quick boot setting bypasses the usual boot loader process, or whatever it's called, which is why you can't get into recovery. It's more like hibernation than an actual power-off state.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmsera1:
Yup...that seems to have fixed my problem. Never knew that got added in there but as soon as I took that setting off it allowed me to get into recovery mode.

Thanks a bunch.
[Hero CDMA General] Venom_Man:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-best-ram-optimisation-script-for-android/

will this work for our little hero's??? its says required init.d kernels. I couldnt find out if we have that available in our kernels
[Hero CDMA General] thoughtlesskyle:
completely wrong section but yes almost all of the hero kernels have init.d support
[Hero CDMA General] Venom_Man:
my apologies for the wrong section, but thank you for the reply
[G2 and Desire Z General] xaser66:
Hello!

I almost fed up with my current phone, so, I would like to look for a change, checking seems that the most suitable candidate for me could be the HTC Desire Z or G2 model, so since I would like to avoid the same mistake that i made with my last phone, I would like to ask please help to clarify some doubts that I wonder about the DesireZ-G2,so:

1) I need that the new phone could be set to operate in 3G mode in the band HSDPA 850, since is the only one in that my provider offer 3G access. I found on the info that the HTC Desire Z seems to be Quad Band, But, many of the models that are for sale said that they are for HSDPA 1700 (Tipically T-Mobile), So,

I would like to ask if the model Desire Z and G2 are the same hardware phone or I should look for an specific model in order to be sure that the hardware of the phoe will be fully compatible for access 3G in HSDPA 850.

2)By now I see that even Android 2.3 Ginger is available for DesireZ-G2 but I wonder if this upgrade means some kind of locking in the boootloader or rooting or risk to brick the phone if I may like to use custom roms like Cyyanogen.

Thanks for take time to read and if may be some help/suggestion I would be very gratefull, since I was checking the previous posts but no found a clear specific answer to the question 1, and was very confused about the possible issues about question2.

Thank You very much again and best regards! :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] theSpam:
To answer your first question, you'll need the Bell Canada Desire Z for HSDPA 850.
[G2 and Desire Z General] nonione:
to answer your second question

if you want to root and flash roms, make sure the device youre going to buy doesnt have the oficial gingerbread rom on it since theres no method to root it yet
[General Questions and Answers] Kurt Krummbein:
... as i'm not allowed to reply in the thread itself :-( ...

I gave the Kernel and Test Image from sp3dev (see <http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14908426&postcount=25> ) i try ...

wow, speed is amazing (how much is it overclocked ;-) ), charging works instantly (without booting through WinMo), cold not get to a state without working keys ... i'd just needed a working WLAN or a FileManager to be able to add more apps and do more checking. I'll try to merry the test image with Neopeeks latest CM7 image to enable more testing (without mobile data connection as im working without SIM in my X1 at the moment).

Very encouraging though, a large step towards NAND on X1 :-)

Ciao

Kurt
[General Questions and Answers] Kurt Krummbein:
pulled system.img and rootfs.img from FRX07, removed the data.img.

Kernel is running realy fast, switched betreen apps, went through some standby, wakeup cycles and ... lost keypad :-(.

Think there's still some work to be done to get the keypad driver stable ...
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