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[HTC EVO 3D] firestetz:
Can't right now on my phone but if you go to evo 3d development you will see the thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] todah09:
I they can trim some of the fat off of the pigs!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Not to start a ***** fest but then I assume you don't eat any living creature

I have a lot of love for animals and didn't mean to offend anyone... That picture is old and i thinks its illegal to kill wild seal in there natural habitat

I own a few "exotic" pets including a reticulated python and would never hurt or kill a animal for sport or "fun"

But to survive ****ing A

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Confirmed around 11am
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
...you're certainly a wild one, let us know how that pans out...
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
No I do eat living creatures but don't like to look at them being murdered. Anyways not important in here because we have s-off. Let's all grab a beer and chill.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
dont think so. there is a link to where the beta will be but right now the alpharevx beta doesn't support the sensation.

itll show up at alpharev.nl/x/beta/
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
:)

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] bigant262:
Lol what?

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[HTC EVO 3D] firestetz:
you're right after posting I checked again and paid attention to the supported devices list. Sorry went too soon
[HTC EVO 3D] RainyPudding:
Now we all patiently await s-off's arrival.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Patiently? Hah!
[HTC EVO 3D] hockeyfamily737:
Horrible timing!!!.....Headed to the beach for a couple of weeks and promised my wife I'd leave the laptop home.......Guess I have to break the bad news to her. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
My laptop told me to leave the wife home...
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
swim with the laptop :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
Epic WIN...
[HTC EVO 3D] CuzinBucksBx:
Great another thread to camp out....
[HTC EVO 3D] *AndroidMaster*:
Great News, Cant Wait...!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Pick one up from rent-a-center while your at the beach, then you can honor your wife and still get flash happy.
[HTC EVO 3D] empiire:
I'll be camping this thread out like no one's business. End of story.
[HTC EVO 3D] RainyPudding:
http://youtu.be/D091idBiieY

Just to give you guys something to do while waiting for s-off instructions. I'm 2 hours into the video. (shows how bored I am from waiting)

sorry for being off topic

PS. try not to die
[HTC EVO 3D] SouthernEvo:
I think my skull just exploded
[HTC EVO 3D] inoskedu8o8:
Speaking of seals, I have a story. So a seal walks into a club. The end.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Lmfao :/ I feel bad for laughing hahahahaha

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] Mexiking10:
You and me both buddy.. I logged in to post just because I felt so bad for laughing pretty hard..
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
That makes 3 of us! LMFAO
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
Lol @ the joke... Yall wild

Sent from my Evo3D
[HTC EVO 3D] ridleyj329:
That is so horribly off topic I couldn't help but instantly laugh and I can't re-read without laughing either
[HTC EVO 3D] Mexiking10:
Haha.. Yeah.. It says something when I've been lurking XDA for a months but nothing has compelled me to post until this..
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
This is great news. Can't wait untill it is released. I have ben holding off on getting my 3vo until it was fully rooted. I just hope when I do decide to get it that it does not come pre-updated past the point that this will work (or the dumb asses activating it if I go to a store don't do it thinking they are helping)
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
man u sleep around

on topic - whatever that is - Myn did check in here -

and added a lengthy response ...
[HTC EVO 3D] tyler.durden:
Best. Video. Ever.
[HTC EVO 3D] zonyl:
With just s-off we can have permanant root, flash images with hboot, and change /system. Id say that is important.

Im excited for their work as Shadowmite has always been involved in almost every sprint phone I have owned (since the treo days). I am a little puzzled though at the timing of posting the youtube video which derailed other efforts some and today we still dont have a s-off phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Both HTC and ARX claims to be in testing phase for S-OFF. The question is who will release 1ST. My Thought is HTC will try to speed it up so they won't look stupid on their multi million dollar investment. I read some where people over seas are starting to get updates. HTC did say they would get it first, but is this update the one HTC is pushing out for S-OFF? Even if it is you won't be able to tell by booting into hboot cause chances are they want to to download a tool from their site that will surly void your warranty but give you S-OFF. Personally I hope our guys release it first as a slap in the face of HTC. But if HTC shocks the world and start the unlocking process for the pushed otas' their hard work will sadly mean nothing.
[HTC EVO 3D] jfcooley:
" But if HTC shocks the world and start the unlocking process for the pushed otas' their hard work will sadly mean nothing."

I wouldn't say it means nothing. The knowledge gained will certainly reap rewards in future development for HTC devices and others that use this type of locked bootloader..

Anytime you learn from an experience it cannot be considered a waste..
[HTC EVO 3D] inifekt:
I currently live overseas (stationed at Okinawa AB, Japan), recently got a new HTC EVO from the provider au by KDDI, and I have an update to Gingerbread ready to accept. I'm afraid to update to Gingerbread because of losing root options and it was released about a month ago so probably not a boot unlocking update.

I wouldn't mind getting updates first though :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Now on that note good sir I totally agree.

Edit-

"knowledge Gained Is Never A Waste"

-Me
[HTC EVO 3D] DomSim:
root first, use unrevoked if you can, then you can take the update if you want because you will be permanently s-off'd
[HTC EVO 3D] TinkerDude:
Probably better asked in one of the EVO 4G forums, this is the EVO 3D. Nevertheless, I' m sure they have Gingerbread ROMs you can flash w/o taking an OTA update. BTW, greetings to the AF bretheren.
[HTC EVO 3D] jrcbandit:
Also, using HTC's official process will void the warranty of your phone, while any unofficial process should be reversible to keep the warranty intact.
[HTC EVO 3D] inifekt:
KDDI put hboot 2.16 to be annoying. :D

Edit: Oops, I didn't realize I was in the 3D lol. I had too many tabs up. And hua, AF!
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
Source?

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[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
common sense.....

see how moto did it and it warns you when doing the unlock it voids warranty. theres simply no way it wouldn't void your warranty, as its a dumb move for them to let users do that and have to deal with multitude of broken phones b/c of ppl not knowing what they were doing in root.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Yeah, but Sony's method doesn't void warranty. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to void the warranty for unlocking/unencrypting the bootloader. Warranties typically cover manufacturer defects, there is very little you could do to your phone through rooting that would appear as a manufacturer defect.

At this point, this is all speculation and NOBODY knows for sure whether or not HTC's method will void warranty. Anyone who says otherwise is just making up stories.
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
Exactly.

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[HTC EVO 3D] IRepTheKing:
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[HTC EVO 3D] iefteam:
AlphaRev are delaying the realese to get more DONATIONs ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
I don't need a one click

I wish alpharev will release a adb method

I am pretty sure what we are waiting for is for them to get it working with their program,

I'll be happy enough doing it all manually.

This isn't a complaint in any way

Many Thanks to the alpharev team.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
I don't even know how to donate to them.

Sent from my HTC Evo 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
If thats true, thats not right. Look what happened to Kingsklick kernels for Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
I guarantee they will get more donations than ever once it is released.

I really doubt they would play silly games like that.
[HTC EVO 3D] iefteam:
oh yeah, VERY true
[HTC EVO 3D] T3hPWN:
That's not Entirely accurate just by rooting you can overclock and adjust the temp to the ECU and fry that bad boy and you could technically go to sprint and say it wont turn on how would they know? Now its a given most phones will reboot if the setting on the ECU is too high but if you run it long enough on a higher setting with no fan cooling it its bound to burn. You can also delete your Wimax keys and lose 4G if the rep at sprint isn't very experienced hell give you a new phone and sprint takes the charge.

There is quite alot out there that can damage your phone. So I could definitely see HTC voiding your warranty but there is no evidence of HTC saying that what will happen......Yet
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
That can't be further from the truth. with root you can do many things that would damage the phone. OC is one of them.

Also with warranty I am mainly talking about through sprint not HTC since you hardly ever send your phone to get serviced at HTC. Sprint handles 99.9% of it id say. I'll go ahead and say they(sprint) will say unlocking/rooting will void it, just like they do now. yes some stores dont care but some/most do.

There is no reason they should repair your phone for damage you did to it on your own and cover it under warranty. Makes no sense to let someone claim warranty on it if the device is broken/fried from being oc'd way too high and burned up.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
You are right. Plenty of reasons for them to void your warranty.

I had a brand new nexus one and immediately unlocked the bootloader when I received it.

I then noticed that the phone didn't vibrate. Manufacturer defect.

Long story short they didn't give me a new one because I voided my warranty. It was still my favorite phone until now. But you know what, it was my fault.

And I paid just around $600 for that phone not a mesely $200 like my evo 3d.

I don't blame htc and continue to buy htc phones because the quality is unmatched.

So just a warning to you all from experience

If you do decide to use htc's method to unlock your bootloader just make sure your phone is working 100% before you void your warranty.

Another big reason why htc is waiting to unlock our bootloaders is because they know the people here at xda are good and they knew that we would find an exploit. Now they have the opportunity to block the exploits and keep their promise of the bootloader unlock.

It's just smart Business practice.

I'm sure sprint has some issues with it as well but in the long run it will benefit them to attract hardcore android fans.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattsm:
I think we all KNOW that rooting your phone doesn't hurt your phone, it is what you do in root that can cause issues with hardware, ect.. With everything said, we don't know if htc's unlocking method will void warranty or not, Hell they haven't even released it yet!

Is it a possibility? Sure.

Is it a fact? Dunno, there is NO source for that.

Either way, you guys have legitimate points.
[HTC EVO 3D] Harfainx:
It will probably be a partial-void. I've used Archos as an example before, because they supply a "developer edition" on their website, which is basically an unlock.

Installing the SDE (special developer edition) watermarks your system, and partially voids your warranty.

Damage caused by the SDE is not covered (which I still haven't seen a single case of them not replacing a device).

Hardware defects are still covered, such as failed speakers, backlight issues, etc, etc.

Obviously I don't know for sure, but my guess is that HTC will follow close to what Archos does. There is no reason to fully void a warranty just for an unlocked bootloader, since the bootloader has nothing to do with the backlight failing, or a speaker not working.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
You are right there is no proof that the evo 3d will be this way.

But the fact is that htc was the first company to do it this way with the nexus one and they have experience with it. It's mostly just common sense at this point.

If you haven't owned a nexus one you probably aren't familiar with the idea.

And the nexus one is an old ass phone now.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
There are plenty of speaker mods for root users

You must have skipped my post.

I actually have experience with htc and an unlocked phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Harfainx:
I didn't skip anything, I'm just throwing another example of what they could do.

Just because they've used one method once, doesn't mean that they will use that exact method again.

Their new phones will be shipping with unlocked bootloaders, so does that mean they will have no warranty on them? Obviously they can't and won't do that. They will re-write their warranty terms for unlocked bootloaders.

Experience with an old device does not equal knowledge of future devices (and company policies).
[HTC EVO 3D] branjgsclb:
What if the S off exploits are different? Say HTC unlocks first and then decides to flip the script on us and S On it with a forced OTA, the AlphaRev exploit releases and we are back to S Off the same day? Not sure if that is even possible just more of a hypothetical question.
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
I guess people who worry about their warranty, dont buy insurance on their phone. I have had 3 different android phones and replaced all 3 through insurance no questions asked. I give them my phone they give me another phone, so tell me about all the hardship one has replacing a phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
The nexus one didn't ship with an unlocked bootloader

Please know what you are talking about because people here rely on good information.

You had to manually unlock the bootloader. It was a choice not something that you had to do. Once again please know what you are talking about
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
You are right and that's the best way to do it.

I always get insurance either way but unfortunately because the nexus one wasn't an official t-Mobile phone and i bought it straight from google I didn't have that option

Even with insurance it will still cost you something though.

So in a sense you are kind of buying a new phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] Xencer:
Goddamn it guys now I have to read through 20 pages of crap to see if there's any progress :(
[HTC EVO 3D] GabrielSousa:
its easy just go to http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
Sorry you didn't find the quick answer you were looking for.

If you want progress you need to check here

http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
Doesn't say evo 3d is supported, on the link you posted.
[HTC EVO 3D] GabrielSousa:
ops... clicked thank..

well we all have to w8. 1 ou 2 weeks for the release
[HTC EVO 3D] chopper221:
Funny but wrong. Soda came out of my nose!
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
The point is that when it is ready you will see evo 3d and sensation added to the list.

AlphaRev team is keeping a tight seal on information.

Nobody can give a timeframe at this point.

Your best bet is to to hop on irc with the link on that page

Read the rules though

Don't ask for etas and don't ask to be a tester or where the files are or anything like that.

Just sit back and watch and maybe you will get lucky and see what we all have been waiting for
[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
I don't know about you guys but i'm hoping it takes a few more weeks to get S-Off and recovery. It's just all happening so fast that's it's making my emotions run wild. I mean we already temprooted and it was great and all...but I want to get to know my device before we take it to that level;I want to spend time with her before I :::root::: her. After rooting--well then all of a sudden you're flashing all the time and caring for several roms. It's a big change. It's hard to spend quality time with each rom once you're flashing several, and of course you want to spend time with your device--all the while you have to work. I guess I just don't want to rush into it.
[HTC EVO 3D] IRepTheKing:
With all the talk about the Evo 3D possibly getting S-Off, I've missed the part where someone from AlphaRev has said they were working on the Evo3D. I've seen the video of the Sensation with S-Off and I've gone to their website. So far, it appears that they haven't shown a history of working Sprint phones. If I'm wrong, then correct me.

Other thing is that I know it's not cool to ask for ETAs. One way to avoid that could be not to release videos like the Sensation Vid until you're about to release the tool. Here we are at 30+ pages of conversation and anticipation on a tool that hasn't been released and is taboo to ask when it's going to be released.

Just an opinion, doesn't need a "FLAMING" response. Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Are you for real?
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Easy solution. Don't flash anything once the tool comes out. For me, I'll take it right away.

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Well they didn't make a video for the 3D, but they showed the screenshot of the 3D with S-off. Its been verified by them that they have had S-off on the 3D for weeks now, and just haven't released that information.
[HTC EVO 3D] Xencer:
I should smack you
[HTC EVO 3D] J3STUR:
Aw thats sweet :-)

but yeah just wait if you not ready, sounds like were talking about losing virginity here, haha
[HTC EVO 3D] Xencer:
If this is true than I would think they're the biggest douches ever for keeping it secret
[HTC EVO 3D] huntingslife:
Awe doesn't want to pop his 3d's cherry..... I do ;-)

Sent from my 6 shooter in 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
Yeah guys that was a joke. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
Just a joke a man. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] beyond882001:
41k views......lol we are easily entertained....
[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
Joke.

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[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
Yeah it was just a joke. Of course I'm going to be flashing as soon as possible and as many roms as possible.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Yeah, me too...this lack of bad blocks is really frustrating lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Mastajeff:
Did somebody say S-Off?
[HTC EVO 3D] irishgreen:
The OP should change the thread title because a member of Alpharex already confirmed that the s-off tool would work with all current HTC bootloaders...I dont think its gonna be released on an individual basis more like, "heres the tool..it should work on all" type of thing...
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I just want a fully functional deck rom on my 3d, ill be one happy camper.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Alpharev UNLOCK OR WE WALK!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] IRepTheKing:
Hilarious.. That message along with your avatar is just plain hilarious. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
I just want to try the new miui LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] 504_Beezy:
My 3vo is ready and patiently waiting.
[HTC EVO 3D] stealthee:
You need to go back to page 3 or was it 4 where a alpharev member posted a Pic of the EVO 3D s-off'ed. People need to stop clicking last page without reading the ones before them. So many posts would never get posted and clutter would be gone. I get really upset with all these people that "Need a Sign" as jeff foxworthy would say.
[HTC EVO 3D] bhughes3:
um...thats Bill Engvall...Jeff does redneck jokes...but I agree nonetheless :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
That's what I'm talkin' bout phatty!! :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] Harfainx:
Uhhh.... derp?

I'm talking about their FUTURE plans for phones. I don't care what they did with the Nexus, that has nothing to do with how they will handle the unlocking of future bootloaders (or current ones).

I'm talking about future phones, and the current ones that are out that will be receiving unlocked bootloaders per HTC's new policy.

Again, nothing to do with old phones. Nothing, not anything.

Just wanted to make that clear so you didn't try to insert another comment about how you know everything about their new policy because you have a bit of experience with their old phones, on their old policy.
[HTC EVO 3D] toneman1984:
I'm so excited that when the tool is released, I'm going to download it and stare at it for a few hours while sporadically pacing around my room. At some point I will make the decision to use it, but it will be on my terms, and after much staring and pacing. You guys think that's cool? I mean what's another 3 hours of waiting when it's staring you down in the face.

/in good jest
[HTC EVO 3D] IRepTheKing:
Had you taken your own advice, you would have seen that someone had already answered me. Not trying to start an argument, but sometimes you gotta relax. These forums and threads are OPTIONAL reading. If someone doesn't like a person simply asking a question, you don't have to participate.

Breathe... just breathe.
[HTC EVO 3D] Xencer:
What is your point, exactly? "Too secretive?" The video posted was not supposed to be public, and leaked. Apart from that, we very well decide for our damn selves what we want to expose or not in terms of information, tyvm.

Why act like an entitled douchebag?
[HTC EVO 3D] sling:
Another stormy day at XDA
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
If S-OFF is not out b4 my 30days to return is up I'm jumping ship. Dev down. These devs are to hush hush. No one is helping out one another. Will go to the MT4G Slide!
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
This community is unbelievable. You want a fncking exploit so bad? find it your damn self or have some patience and learn some respect.

jesus christ
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Don't be a ****. Whoever was responsible for discovering the exploit and developing the tool to unlock phones has every right to decide when and how it is released in addition to deciding how much information they want leaked the public.

I can't even believe you would make such a post. :o
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
Really it is not like back in the good ole days touch pro 2 EVO i mean people worked together and when something was out they released it but this is almost like a business thing like they have gold and are waiting to get more something out of it.Whatever it is the market has changed a whole bunch from the help each other to the what is best for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
Please don't :( then I won't wanna be here anymore
[HTC EVO 3D] bigant262:
You know they could be cleaning it up to make it perfect so its not hard for people to use. Or they are trying to do a bunch of devices at once, and release it as one. Who knows. They achieved it, they showed proof. Now we just got to wait. Its not the end of the world. We will get it before HTC rolls out their update. Would you rather wait for that?
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
They are not releasing it yet because it is not ready. What about that do you not understand people. If it was ready they would release it. No one owes you anything. The reason it has been so hush hush is because of these types of posts demanding it gets released or else. Do you think they give one crap if you return your phone our use their exploit?

If you want it done faster then hurry up & finish the tool yourself & release it.

It needs to be noob proofed before it can be publicly released. No wonder a lot of good devs are leaving xda & taking their free services elsewhere.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Ummm... ok.

Boo hoo?
[HTC EVO 3D] jfcooley:
I have to side with the developers on this.

Try and view it as such:

You're working on something that is a source of pride, giving a community something the desire. You do it as a hobby, to help others, and for a certain degree of fleeting fame.

Whatever the reason you want to provide something.

Why keep it under wraps. Why? Well look at this thread, and the others like it. Its become a example of selfishness. Doesn't matter that they have achieved a feat, or that they are going to give us what we desire, it matters only when and how long, etc etc.

At this point who can really blame a few angry words in return for what may be perceived as ungratefulness. Seems wanting to complete the task well, making it available for anyone to use correctly isn't important.

Patience is a virtue, and being grateful is not only a sign of humility, but maturity.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
Geez why all the hostility? We are there, s-off is on the horizon. We have waited this long so what is a few more days weeks for some spit and polish?

I'll one up ya. If they don't release before sat( my 30 days) I will burn my 3d and then eat it. That will show those devs for not giving me s-off NOW!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] derricob:
Very nice find. Hopefully we (Evo3D users) will see this soon