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[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
I told you guys not to believe what SE Brazil said. Rikard is the only source we can trust because he is their official mouthpiece. By the way, Brazil is not a third world country and even if it was, that would not be a reason to disregard them you supposedly first world idiot Kantk20111. SE have an official blog for announcements and that is what we should follow and that's that.

It's a pity for gamers but oh well all the issues that have plagued the x10 were never going to be resolved with software updates anyway. Lets just be pleased that the x10 will ultimately run software on it that's fitting for it's hardware even though we know SE only came to that decision reluctantly because of the slow uptake of their new line and also pressure from Google.

It's simple the x10 will soon get software that will make it usable for another year and by that time most of your contracts would be up and then you can move on to say a galaxy s3 or whatever is available in 2012.

The x10 was my first android device and as such has been a learning curve for me. I know it's the same with many others in here and I hope the experience has thought us enough to make better judgements when getting our next phones.

Again the SE fanboys are quick to turn a thread into a flame war and blame others. People are allowed to express their disappointment and you can express you satisfaction without lowering things with insults.

SE fanboys don't start another war which you know you will ultimately loose and start crying. Seriously.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
I know. I never said you did. I'm just saying there's no such thing as free speech.

Root doesn't just mean taking out apps! I come for custom ROMs as well. When did I say I didn't like root? You're misinterpreting. I just said I liked the apps they were giving.

also, you completely ignored this part of my post

Please answer that.
[XPERIA X10 General] hemo1001:
Actually we're getting nothing from the new 2.3 update .... trip could fix the camera issue in gingerbread with his MIUI and i love MIUI more than the stock with respect to SE .....
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Its not the fact that its not capable of it. Its the fact that they told us for a month it was getting 4 point multi touch.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
you called me an idiot...and then say how SE fanboys start insulting people. Interesting.

And Brazil is third world..you just don't know what third world is, and it isn't what you're thinking it is. India, China, Malaysia are all 3rd world countries.

And I'm from india so I'm not first world, but thanks for the assumption.

If you're calling me a fanboy, tell me when in this thread I insulted someone. At all. I've not called anyone an idiot or stupid, like you have at me. Don't be a hypocrite like that.

You're not helping the cause, and your posts are the reason there is a flame war, because you use words like Idiot and make assumptions. Nice job.

I agree it was wrong on SE Brazil's part, but SE Brazil also said that GB was coming to the X10 in 2011 and then retracted it. My point is that other than SE Sweden and SE Japan, really no other site can be trusted, because there will be errors in translation and communication, which is why all of these info should be taken with a pinch of salt.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
1. You accused anyone who disagrees with you of being a SE spokesperson, just like playgunsta accuses anyone who disagrees with him troll

2. That is your choice to delete those apps, but the update will give functionality for other apps from market as well.

3. Emphasis on the words MANY OF US WANT. We want a lot of things, doesn't mean we get all we want. ALSO you said earlier that they took a month to remove false information, well the OFFICIAL statements from September has been no MT. You were all just clutching at straws hoping that just one lone part of SE may be right. AND THEY STILL MAYBE HIDING SOMETHING FROM US.

I too am annoyed by all the hardware features that they have purposefully restricted eg. 16m colours and multitouch. BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT TIME IT.

SO.

What we should do now is just wait for the update instead of moaning all the time. THEN WE CAN SEE WHAT WE GET AND BE THANKFUL FOR AN EXTRA OS UPGRADE BY SE.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Because i don't have those device's to go an dig out why they have been manipulated.

The truth also lies with the original review of the device where SE stated that we will get MT only to retract that statement after there were rumors that Apple was giving companies crap about MT.

They lied and said it was completely impossible to use any form of MT followed by DT, ironically right after another developer managed to get DT working!

So why should i believe them when they say the hardware cannot handle it when the driver and the source code for it that we currently have is full of evidence.

Why are you so determined to fob me off?
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I'm from a third world country and the USA has my country to thank for alot of it's military technology.

My country also made the first memory that runs at the speed of light.

And many quantum physics technologies and developments including digital DNA sniffing
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
R u joking or being serious?

What's that got to do with anything?
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
No buddy. In terms of first world second world and third world Brazil China and India are second world countries. But the newer term is developing countries. So at least get your facts straight before you start talking all dat smack

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
What country is that?

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Ok, to those select people who think Third World countries means poverty and that the country is crappy, and calls people idiots for using the term:

The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either capitalism and NATO (which along with its allies represented the First World), or communism and the Soviet Union (which along with its allies represented the Second World). This definition provided a way of broadly categorizing the nations of the Earth into three groups based on social, political, and economic divisions.

USA, Russia, Europe=First world

Brazil, India, China=Third world.

And not to derail the thread, but I don't think SE is lying this time. That's all I have to say. Dualtouch is a hardware limitation.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Yeah, but this is official firmware which will have full software support. No matter how good trip or other secs are, in terms of STABILITY nothing can beat the Official OS.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
If you go by the classical meaning I'm still right.

The term "Second World" is a phrase used to describe the communist states within the Soviet Union's sphere of influence or those countries that had centrally-planned economies.[1] Along with "First World" and "Third World", the term was used to divide the nations of Earth into three broad categories. In other words, the concept of "Second World" was a construct of the Cold War and the term has largely fallen out of use since the revolutions of 1989, though it is still occasionally used to describe countries that are in between poverty and prosperity, many of which are communist and former communist countries today. Subsequently, the actual meaning of the terms "First World" and "Third World" changed from being based on political ideology to an economic definition (see the terms developed country and developing country).[1]

I'm wrong about China, fine, I apologize, but still India would be 3rd world by that definition.

Fine, you want to go by the developed and developing scale? Brazil, India, and China are all developing. Am I going to be called an idiot for that now?

If you want to say 1st world=developed and 3rd world=least developed, then the BRIC nations would be 2nd world. So whatever, I'm sorry, I was right and wrong depending on how you looked at it, but I wasn't talking 'all dat smack'.
[XPERIA X10 General] kaleun:
Sounds better than being an HTC customer to be honest
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Indeed you are. You shouldn't have been trying to start stuff about something you know nothing about. And no right now (if you still want to go by first second and third world) India is a second world country with the second fastest rising economy behind China. You may be from India (if that's what u said) but you need to actually know about your countries economy.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
lol

SE makes another false statement, time and time again after being grilled say "no it is true, we are 100% positive" , then finally come out and say it was wrong...

When people get mad about it fanboys blame them and not SE?

hahaha what a world this is.

People will seriously stick up for SE no matter what, and it is kind of sad.

This is why they are supposedly going out of business in 2012..
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
just like single touch was?
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
I'm telling you these fan boys are ridiculous

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
It was a software limitation for 1.6 I believe...I'm not sure though.

I know that my countrie's the 2nd fastest growing. I was just using a different definition. As I said, I'm right and wrong, but not all wrong ;). I'm not stupid. No need to scold me and tell me what's right and wrong, you just misinterpreted me (and Ignored my other definition completely).
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Exactly. They said that was a hardware limitation too.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Lol not calling you stupid. I Just thought u were saying India and Brazil were third world.

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
I mean that other definition was also inaccurate

India does not meet that criteria

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Can we stop this rubbish about first and third world countries? It has nothing to do with topic. I come from Bangladesh and its quality of life is same as India, but India has more money in economy. But both countries have very poor people and BOTH COUNTRIES ARE VERY SIMILAR and both in my opinion are third world countries by life style. HOPE WE CAN PUT THIS POINTLESS argument to rest.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
They called it a hardware limitation.

For a axis crossing bug to occur you need first cross the axis.

This happens without even crossing the axis on the current driver.

Then the output positions also only update passively on movement.

If it was actively then it would be much more stable.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
Kantk20111 Brazil and China are developing countries. China you can argue being the worlds

2nd largest economy is now a developed nation. I called you an idiot because your comments were idiotic and not to mention plain wrong. Are seriously saying that just because India is third world, SE India are worthless. You disregard them because SE have an official blog for announcements and not because of where they are.
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
Hello? Show some respect?!
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
I admit it was wrong of me calling some of the people here pricks. So my appologies for that, and no i do not have a high pay check so every update to this phone is more then welcome, still, i do not expect anything more from SE and i do not demand anything more either. I knew what i paid for last year and i got more then i asked for, i se no reason beeing mad at SE and trashtalking them, giving them bad reputation. My next phone will surely be from SE again since it is in my opinion the company that listen the most on their costumers and they have the most stable software among all, i said STABLE not latest... I tried the arc next to an sgsII a few days ago and for real, the arc was iphone smooth in the touch and graphic whilst the sgsII was as choppy as the X10.. What does that tell ya?
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
It's funny because twice I wrote to take their info WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, and not to disregard it completely.

I never said that they are always wrong, personally I never believe them but that's just me. It's also true that those third world/2nd world/developing whatever-thehellyouwannacallit countries often misprint things because of communication errors or language barriers, it happens. I'm not going to completely disregard what they say, but SE Brazil have been wrong twice about the X10 and for me that's not a trustable source.

Again, for the final time, I didn't ignore them for the fact that they are third world but for the fact that there can and will be communication and translation errors, and there were! Brazil did it twice with the Nov GB update announcment and now this!

^That was a wrong post, I didn't mean SE USA I meant SE Japan/SE Sweden, but the jist is the same. Again, I didn't discriminate because of the fact that they were developing/3rd world, I just don't trust them because they are more likely to be wrong than Japan/Europe!

And in no way shape or form is China a developed country, if you go there there's still a lot of work to do, it's on the same level as india in infrastructure and poverty.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
Although i do not enjoy butting in arguments but today,

Ktankk2011, I have read your posts lately. 80% Content: Flaming and stuffing people with negative comments (usually an essay)

You and your rascist whining need to stop. You need to understand that, without these third world countries, you would not have your X10, nevertheless be arguing on this forum. You are NOT better than anyone else.

Happy with the X10? Good, Sony Ericsson has just earned one loyal fanboy.

End of story.
[XPERIA X10 General] -- X10B --:
Omg just move on. Dont be such a emo. Our devices is old. Yah i need multitouch too! who doesnt?. This is my first android device and im so frustated with it. Till one day i realize, why should i be angry everyday with this phone.

This phone will not ruin my relationship to others. Stay cool move on and always smile.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
That you're a fanboy and you'll lie to yourself to make yourself feel better?

I have used both, and without a doubt the sgs2 is WAYYYYY faster.

Doomlord also owns/uses both and says the same thing.

You're full of it..

Anyhow, it isn't us who are coming out with statements, leaving them out for a momth, then suddenly saying "oh we were wrong, againn"

There is a reason why their stock is known as the next big company to plumet
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
i'm not starting a flame war, but just saying that in the sony ericsson's blog rikard said that he talked to the developers and they said that multitouch/fully working dual touch is just too much work for them...
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
You're starting one with your rude replies. Stop please?
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
I am from a third world country, I know what it is and how it works. NEVER DID I SAY THEY WERE WORTHLESS, OR WERE STUPID, OR INFERIOR IN ANY WAY.

If I did please post that now, I need to see where I insulted people, including my own race, because I can't see it anyware.

Those third world/developing countries sometimes do get miscommunication errors and translation errors. As I've said it's happened, I've seen it tons of times in India, did I ever say just because of that all third world countries are trash? No I didn't. At all.

Only ONCE did I mention not to trust third world company counterparts. Only ONCE. After that I've been defending my ass as all hell broke loose over me, as people called me racist, stupid, idiot for using that term. As if I said it in a derogatory way. I'm sorry if any of you felt that way but those were nowhere near my intentions.

And I didn't realize being happy with a phone makes you a fanboy.
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
Rude replies? to who? how? where?
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
Actually not only you, also scoobysnacks and some more...
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
If that's the case then please edit your posts and remove those ____words.

Unfortunately Ktankk not everyone is as intelligent as you, therefore when people like myself read 'third world' it is almost certain that they think of it as an insult to that nation. I myself are from none of them, but I think that since we are all human, we should be all accepted.

X_X
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
??

what are you babbling about? Leave the thread/forum please, I have seen you contribute nothing to any discussion aside from trying to play mod
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
You're taking this way too personally, and sorry but for me Third world is not insulting at all to my country. I'm not racist, nor did I make any racist remarks. I didn't say I was smarter than anyone as well, so I don't know what you're saying there.

In india everyone uses the term third world nation, so again sorry if it's wrong to some people but I wasn't familiar with that...didn't think it was that insulting that I would be crapped on by 5 different people.

I've tried explaining myself and my intentions but it's gone unheeded because some people got hurt by a word I used.

Again i'm sorry, I'm done with this, sorry to anyone who got insulted and thought I was racist against my own people.
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
I'm talking about showing respect to each other? Seems that many here on this forum can't show even a little bit of respect to each other. If they can't do it here, can they do it in real life?
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I responded to a guy that called us all pricks, and said that the sgs2 is definitely not laggy like the x10.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

Crawl back under your n00b rock
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Why am i not shocked.

Then why don't they just release the sources and a way to flash the driver and let XDA sort it out.

If they wanted to really be that nice to us a unlocked boot loader and releases of any and all source code would be priority number 1.
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
Again can't you show some respect? I will keep saying it, till you (and others) do ;) It keeps amazing me, what people dare to say on the internet.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
playgunsta you were banned already..

Stop trolling or I'm going to report you to a mod.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Can we all please calm down

Leave each other's countries alone.

And get back on subject. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Myster_A:
cant bealibe we will have still dual tuch :(
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Indeed agree with this part 100%. Only people like us who actually lived in third world countries can really now how easily people misrepresent information. So when certain people get worked up about third world countries. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR OWN COUNTRIES! going on holiday a few weeks ago year to a country doesn't make you an expert on their ways.

It's like going into a shop and being told BS by the salesman and you know that their lying to sell you something. Being in India and Bangladesh unless you know something very well, you will most certainly be fed BS. It's just their way.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Thank you so much. I'm not the only one here who knows the pain of being lied to.

I can go into detail of why they do it but I will definitely be called an idiot and racist so I'll leave it at that, but trust me it happens a lot.
[XPERIA X10 General] kunalgahlot:
he said that for 16 million colors,he clearly said no for any kind of multi touch
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
This is a new member to xda and has posted other times, she has not been rude or done anything to offend anyone, you are actually showing exactly the bad nature of this forum with your hostile attitude towards her.

As pilot had posted in past guys, look at what outsiders would make looking at this forum. This. Thread has become very childish as usual. Also as MR Clown posted a few days ago "can't you be left 10 minutes with getting into an argument?"
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
How can anyone be a racist talking about their own country?

Edit: also as you all know this is a forum for mobile phones, otherwise I could post many examples or youtube videos of what's wrong with people in my country eg, the completely different style of people from the west.

It all goes back to one thing: some Indian/brazilian guy at that countries SE headquarters probably heard a rumour about multitouch therefore unlike for example a guy in US/Sweden/Japan/UK who would have checked if it's true, the guy in Indian/Brazil would just post it assuming that "SE in Europe are probably hiding something" its the way of certain people.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
she is trolling and is not a new member, rather a new account for a banned member....

She keeps quoting my posts and saying to show respect, when I was responding to another member that called all of us pricks (hardly showing respect).

What I did say was not even disrespectful.

Once again, don't like it, don't read it. There is an ignore function, feel free to use it.

ETA: The two thanks I got leads me to believe there are at least a couple members who agree with me
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
I've already been called racist twice...

either theyre not reading what I wrote or think I'm American.
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
I not only said that you were being rude. Jayman1986 is totally right and I agree with him.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
once again, feel free to use the ignore function. You can even pm me and I'll assist you in adding me to your ignore list, that's how nice a guy I am:p

If you are going to contribute nothing else then playing mod, please do add me..
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
There is your solution, add me to your ingore list.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Please go fight about this in off topic!.

Or i will have a good reason to report every single off topic post from here on in.

As it so happens i have earned the grace of being a respected member in the eyes of several moderators.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
please do...

I think this thread should be closed and deleted like the rest of the trash lately.

ETA: not because I don't agree with it, I fully agree it is ridiculous about SE lying once again, but just because obviously we can't have a mature discussion without fanboys and wannabe mods butting in
[XPERIA X10 General] xxRachelle:
Yes, I'm going off topic right now. Sorry, won't reply anymore.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
For goodness sake, were adults here. Stop getting into useless arguments.

Also xxrachelle hasn't insulted you, she just said speak with respect. I know I were insulted but she was just being a peace maker and now you've started flaming her. Also what evidence have you got that she's playgunsta? I saw a post from her yesterday a new x10 owner asking how to mod her phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
haha, welcome back, playgungsta, with your usual phrase... don't worry, i already pm'ed the -Pilot- :)
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
I was okay trading blows talking about multitouch, it was a heated debate but wasn't a flame war, but some people had to get butthurt over me using the word 'Third world' and it just spiralled from there.

I feel bad, I should've left it then and there, but my stupid knack of always defending myself kicked in...
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
So that makes you right?
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I'm done with off topic banter and have reported the thread. Feel free to take it up via pm if you have an ongoing issue
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
If you remember I had a few problems with playgunsta, but you are just as bad, what proof do I have against this user? And what has she done to warrant abuse? Fine report to pilot, but unless u have proof then stop flaming people.

My problems with playgunsta wasn't about opinions (everyone has their own) but it's to do with behaviour and respectful attitudes. U seem to have same problem.