yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
just tryed again and this time it just activated 3g while on wifi and sent the mms
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eraste:
That's normally what happens for me even on the stock froyo i couldn't send or recieve over WiFi, on this ROM i usually have to turn WiFi off to send or recieve mms, mine won't even hook up to 3g until WiFi is off.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I noticed on 1.6 it would periodically not send pictures when WiFi is turned on which did not make me very happy.

Anyway, since I went with an updated framework (latest EVO 3D) on v2.0 I also went back to the Inc specific libs and bin files from v1.4 which was very stable and some stuff like the kernel from the OTA. With v2.0 MMS when WiFi is on never fails. No 3g drops yet either.

As you are all aware I ususally don't use a test team but because of the NY GPS problem 2.0 has actually been tested by a couple of people and they can post their experience if they wish.

I have a few more tweaks to do then I will post it, probably tonight.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eraste:
Love the fact you are so thorough! Anticipation of 2.0 is intense, LOL working tonight so ill definetly be watching the forum... Good luck nilsp
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Been running 2.0 since yesterday afternoon . My GPS is locking in 3-10 seconds and is working fine with Google Navigation. Took a drive after supper and it was fine.

Took at least 6 photos and sent them to my daughter who lives about twenty miles away . Sent them MMS on WI-FI and she got them all. So in my area MMS over WI-FI works great and so does GPS.

Great ROM.

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earendurh:
Hey guys. Looking forward to this new ROM! I hate to be a noob and ask, but will I need to flash a new kernel separately? I already flashed the new radio that came with the OTA, just wondering what all I'll need to flash (i.e. will it just be a new kernel and the new rom?) once it's available and if there is a specific order that should be followed, or can I go ahead and update using the ota kernel that's available already and just do the rom once it's been uploaded? Or do you think the kernel will be bundled with the ROM so I'll only have to flash one file to be all up-to-date? Thanks!

PS. been using the new radio since yesterday and no 3G drops yet, knock on wood! Before I was experiencing at least one drop a day that would require a hot restart to fix.

Also Nils, I've noticed while driving and trying to use voice search to navigate somewhere or something like that, it doesn't seem to be picking up (i.e. will have to search using keyboard in Maps instead). I did test in a quiet room though and it seems to do ok, so not sure if there's any correlation here...Still running 1.5 though so I'll wait until after flashing the new rom to see if it's still an issue. Thanks again!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
There aren't any kernels available to flash at this moment for gingersense roms.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The ROM will include the latest available OTA kernel so no need to worry about that. Plus like SlimSnoopOS said there are no other than the current OTA and the prior OTA that work with GB.

Radios are a matter of preference. Whatever one works best for you is the only way to go. I try em all and even with the 07.07 OTA version I still went back to 09.01 since it works good for me.

As far as voice search goes it is very sensitive to background noise that it can be annoying. I use the voice to text for messaging in the car and held about 2 feet away from my face it works pretty good overall.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Well, I had a cancelled meeting today so here is the next release.

Version 2.0 in post 1

Updated to 2.3.4 with a little from EVO 3D Latest Release/Inc OTA

Reduced size of zip by stripping unusable stuff in framework

Increased RAM

New OTA Kernel

CRT screen off

New DSP Manager with auto EQ

New display settings

Inc2 3G Icons

Stock silver lock ring (many options available in theme forum)

Most recent Google market Apps

More new icons

Since it is a new framework I don't believe this will flash over 1.6 100% so I highly recommend a "Full Wipe".

You can try but if things don't work right or any FC's go back and wipe.

Do Not restore any system data
[Droid Incredible Android Development] soft pillowcase:
Looking forward to the new release! I'll be flashing it within the hour most likely...

As far as radios, what is your criteria for judging what makes it work best? I'm not entirely sure what that entails...call quality? speeds? reception bars?

Thank you!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Basically it is all about perception but the critical items are that all functions work like the phone, data and WiFi.

So, if you try them all and get better data speed, call quality, etc. on one then you have a winner for you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ianPhillips1:
Thx nills!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omniatic:
Can I flash the old market on this one?

And on that topic, can I assume that Google app auto restore only restores the app, not the data? After I flash, I always have to reset everything in all my apps.

Will have to download 2.0 when I get home on WiFi so

Thanks+ in advance
[Droid Incredible Android Development] UHF3:
Whoohoo!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kiboe:
if you have the old market apk file, you can just install is via astro or any file manager app found on the marketplace, no flashing needed, just install the apk file.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcdanielvzw:
Woohoo! I like the animations and fluidity of 2.0. Voice chat on Google Talk works for me now too!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SlimSnoopOS:
Hey everyone Nils Business Gingersense review on Android Central:

http://www.androidcentral.com/rom-review-nils-business-gingersense-htc-droid-incredible

What do y'all think? Once again, all props and credit for NilsP!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
All I can say is WoW, nice writeup. Thanks for posting.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nascarrunner:
So will this update end my data problem?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tst1212:
Sorry if I missed this on a previous post, but what radio was included with the official verizon OTA? Was it 07.07?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes, but I do not provide radios with the ROM. People don't like that since it can mess things up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
More than likely but try it and tell me for sure.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EricS96521:
Widgets are all different sizes and don't fit well in the screens. Switching back to 1.6 for now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Which widgets?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EricS96521:
Calendar widget is the same as 1.6, and all of the others have been shrunk down. I prefer the larger widgets which fill the screen more. I also prefer the darker pull ring. Personal preferences really.

Edit: And the numbers on the keypad are off center.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
The latest leaked version has baseband version 7.07, yes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
Been running 2.0 since upload the only issues im having are mms arnt sending or receiving over wifi but regular messages are.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ianPhillips1:
Nils- very nice ROM my man! Running newest radio with it and they play very nice together. First impressions are smooth and fast.

Ian
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You may need to reflash with a full wipe.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
should i format everything in recovery except sd card? or just data reset, cache and dalvik cache?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
If you are on CWM 3.0.0.7 and and Amoled screen just use the wipe option in RM. If not then do a factory reset, and then wipe dalvik, then format data, system, cache, boot in mounts

Leave the sd card alone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
You need to do a factory reset , wipe dalvik cash and format (fat 32)

the sd card before you put the rom on it . Then everything should go fine .

Sent from my Verizon Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Looks like the clock, calendar, people, photo grid, calculator, and watch are full screen. Which of the other bother you the most since I have resized them down because they were too big and maybe I got carried away. Also some of them like music, mail and messages I prefer not to mess with.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tsoms:
Never seen a 3.0 rom under 250 megs. Nice work man can't wait to try 2.0 thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I kinda went on a rampage pulling things out of the framework and fusion that was not needed. and I did pull a few apps that never worked anyway.

Funny part is then I started adding things like the voice stuff and screen calibration. You know, the things I usually pull out :D

I am patiently waiting for a list of what's missing :eek:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I don't think too much should be added back, it is a great rom.

Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Downloading 2.0 now.

Do you recommend flashing the 7007 radio? Im guessing yes since its included in the ota from verizon
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have tried it and it works fine. I normally stick with 09.01 but on 05.06 right now. Yeah, I know I am fickle.

I just think anything newer than 7.28 is better.

I think the biggest help was the kernel which is included.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Wow, already over 170 downloads and I snuck it out mid day and only 2 concerns posted
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Hey Nils,

I must say I love the awesome review Android Central gave this ROM, and they didnt even have 2.0

Congratulations.

The last paragraph sums it up:

"Overall, the Nils’ Business GingerSense 3.0 is very stable and well put together. The fact that any Sense 3.0 ROM is running on the Dinc is a tribute to the devs. The fact that this one does it so well is a real tribute to Nils, Newtoroot and the rest of this dev team."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
This rom has less to repair or change than any other rom in the Incredible forum.

Sent from my Verizon Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
ok so i did a full wipe and fresh install and presto mms sending and receiving over wifi. must have rushed the install the first time was to excited lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
That's the way to do it , enjoy !!

Sent from my LTE 4G Thunderbolt
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
After doing this should i do a full wipe before trying it? or can i just flash it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kentsimon:
You have outdone yourself. I loaded 2.0 over 1.6 and it seems to be fine.

I am missing the stocks apk. I've tried putting it into the rom and reloading it but it Fc's. Is there a good way to get it working.

I've put the .7.07 radio on my phone and don't loose data in switching between wifi, 3g, and 1x which happens all the time for me. On 5.02 and 5.06 I was having to go to Airplane mode all the time to get data back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
nice rom the widgets do seem a tad small
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WhammyDroid:
v2.0 = 2.3.3 or 2.3.4?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
and10chr
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
pretty sure 2.3.4
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Gotta say this ROM is awesome! I may be hooked since v1.6. The speed on this is surprising. I don't think I've ever seen Sense 3.0 run so smooth. I just love the default theme with this ROM.

This is coming from a CM7 fan. It's even better with my modules (:p).

I'm excited to try 2.0, I'm flashing it now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
And what Modules would those be good sir?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] masully1984:
2.0 is running great!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
The main things of interest would be smartass and perflock_disable. Also tun would come in handy if you need VPN.

See this link for more info: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1216306

Sorry to barge into your thread Nils with this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cjcarter1254:
Does the flashable zip for your modules work on this rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeramyEggs:
Stupid question, but does tv out work on this? You do good work Nils, and you are always nice with ignorant people.(me) How did you get so smart? Really..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
delete post
[Droid Incredible Android Development] arbrouwer:
Getting FC when loading Polaris Office. Ran Fix Permissions as well as reinstalled ROM, but no luck. Anyone else having this issue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eraste:
Dumb question, the 3g mobile hot spot is still unlocked right? So I don't have to use wireless tether, just the 3g hot spot app free still right?

Thanks in advance
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
New York GPS just came back so even I have it now... I feel whole again HaHa
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
If it isn't I put the wrong one on. Try it since it will prompt you if it wants money.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Hmm, it worked when I originally tested it let me check it out since I need that working myself.

Yup, FCed when I tried to open a txt file. I will fix it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eraste:
No prompt for money or anything just takes you to setup yay its the right one lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mfcradio:
Nils,

The stock market widget in there but the stock app is missing. Could you add it back?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JPerry66:
I hope you dont mind Nils but i played with the mms.apk like i asked about earlier in this thread and this is what i ended up with i like it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Yes, use the OTA flashable zip. If you have any issues. update permissions for the file /system/etc/init.d/00cpufreq_modules and set all permissions and change owner and group to root using root explorer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ekud420:
I'm loving this rom
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nathansm:
So a guy just asked this earlier and I didn't see it answered and I would like to know as well does tv out work on this Rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] UHF3:
There are two widgets that will not load, (the already mentioned) Stocks widget and the HTC Trends widget (whatever that is).

I noticed a bunch of undersized widgets as well. Not sure about the FM Radio or Music widget since I never use them. They just seemed a bit smaller than I felt they should be. Maybe if someone here uses them, they could chime in on this.

....mental note; next time use a light background.

Is it me or do the icons look a bit small too? Maybe, not.

And there is some overlap at the bottom of the connection screen.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MightyChigger:
Google Voice Search BUG!!!

All of the 3.0 Sense Roms I have tried including Business Sense 3.0 and OVO Community rom seem to have the seem bug when using the Google Voice Search. If I press the search button and say "call Bellagion, Las Vegas, Nevada" - the phone then looks up the number and dials it, however the phone never completes the call and says Network is Busy. Can anyone help with this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Talkdj:
Having tried Synergy I must say that this ROM is fantastic. Nice job! I was not able to install the Verizon Voice Mail app so I went into root explorer and changed the vvm to false. Now it comes up but it keeps telling me that it can't connect and data is not available.

I've even turned off the wifi so the 3G is on before I bring it up to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xxnirvana69xx:
Did this and tried what feels like everything but still no smartass :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eraste:
Nils, I have noticed that apps I have installed on the SD card when I turn the phone off or reboot the icon that I have for those apps will change to the green and gray Android icon. The shortcuts still link just the icon picture changes? Any help appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I can fix that and will. Like I said I may have gotten carried away removing things.

Have fun. You break it you own it HaHa

Not sure. I don't have a way to test it.

Which ones are too small for people. I can resize them again if it is a big problem.

Hmmm, work for me. Will keep testing.

I will check that out. I must have forgotten to change the guild.prop and another dependency.

Known problem with app2sd. There is a version in the market that seems to work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Meant to remove it also since not many use it but I can put it back if people use it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
the full screen widgets of friendstream news and mail seem just a tad small not much and it really inst a big deal to me

everything else like icons and fonts look great
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
Loaded up 2.0 last night, did full wipe, not flash over this time.

After I setup my home screen I noticed my digital clock widget was missing half of the date. Im guessing it has to do with the widget re-sizing?

Is there anything I can do to fix it or is this something Nil's needs to do within the rom?

snap20110823_072159 by kengod2001, on Flickr
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
I just noticed something crazy.

I went into my contacts and some of my contacts have 5 of same contact, some 3, some 2 and some just one like it should be. This has never happened before. during initial setup I only checked google contacts, when I went on my pc and checked my google contacts for duplicates I did not have any.

The only thing I can think of is I had to sign into HTC to get my widgets ie: bluetooth, gps, moblie network. i was thinking Nils left those out of the rom, but I got them through HTC widgets after signing in. For some reason Im thinking HTC HUB saves your contacts and other stuff. I cant figure a easy way to delete the duplicates. I even went into manage apps and deleted data in people and as soon as I did that the phone started to sync and poof all the dups were back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sounds like they may also be in there as local contacts. Try unchecking phone contacts and see if that helps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hitch_Itch:
I will need to check again, but im 99% sure i unchecked phone contacts when i first start up. if those dups are in local contacts, why is there 5 of the same and can I get into local contacts and delete them so it doesnt happen again?

Thanks, Nils
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Epicardium:
Just my hunch here.

When it dials the number, is there a '+' sign in front of it? Something like +1(999)999-9999? If so, you need to eliminate the '+' from the contacts entry and it will dial out successfully. This has been present on many ROMs I've used, and it's not specific to GV. Any numbers in your contacts list that have the '+' will experience the same issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Been a couple of comments about the size of widgets so what I did was resize a couple and went back with the un-sized versions from 1.6 and they seem OK now.

This includes: Messaging, Mail, Bookmarks, Music, FM Radio, Twitter, Stock, Weather and News.

It also includes the missing stock app.

Who wants to try them and let me know?

Just flash in recovery but do a nand backup before just incase you don't like em.

Updates for widgets-Plus

Still working on the Polaris FC.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Those would be Facebook contacts
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earendurh:
Morning Nils,

I know you're getting a ton of feedback, so I'll try and keep my post brief. Loving the new rom; performance wise it's the smoothest I've seen yet, not even HTC could top this I think!

I agree with others though that some widgets seem to be smaller than usual. So far I've noticed the HTC music widget (2/3) which takes half a home screen, and it's a third party app, but Cardio Trainer has a 'large' widget that takes up two tiles but seems shrunk and is cutting off the 4th digit of calories burned for the last 7 days (i.e. it says 200 when it should say 2000 and I can see a partial of the digit where it appears to have wrapped the text). The smaller version of this widget seems ok. Let me know if you need a screenshot and I can try to get one (tried holding power then home, but it didn't seem to do anything unless it's storing somewhere without me realizing). I wonder if this is a global setting somewhere that needs adjusting since others have reported other widgets as well...

Can you elaborate on the App2SD thing with the icons? I was seeing that too with previous versions of the rom for games I had on SD with the shortcuts in a home-screen folder, but wasn't sure how to resolve.

I agree that stocks is probably seldom used, but there are folks out there that use it nonetheless I'm sure, even if it does add Mbs to the rom.

Good job adding voice-to-text and such, this is essential for things like navigation imho.

Finally, I'm noticing in the browser it seems to be behaving like a desktop browser, which is fine I suppose, but threw me when the google bar on the homepage was very small. I assume there is logic in this, but just wanted to put it out there in case others felt it should behave more like a mobile browser and if there's a way to toggle perhaps between desktop and mobile?

Overall though, great job! No FCs yet (knock on wood) or 3G drops since moving to 07.07 radio. I'm very excited to see how this rom continues to evolve and won't be getting a new phone now for at least a few months because of it :) Keep up the good work , bud! You've definitely got a fan in me!

Oh, and I'm totally nerding out at at the CRT screen power-off effect, lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nascarrunner:
Haha that was brief....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earendurh:
LoL, yeah....someone once said though, Good BS is into details :P All for the greater good, right?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Epicardium:
Hey Nils, Great ROM so far, no problems.

How difficult is it to increase the max mms size from 300KB? Can that be edited in an xml file somewhere? I hate only being able to record an 8-second video in the stock messaging app. I know I can use 3rd party apps, but I'm looking for a stock solution. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mirrin:
On loading the rom I got a fc on sense and on first dial the google service for the phone book fc that is after a full wipe on 2 different phones it has not happened again since then though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] arbrouwer:
Regarding the Polaris Office issue, will the be a one off update or included in the next ROM update?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayson269:
Just Chiming In...

NilsP, Just wanted to say how much I love this ROM. I found your ROM about 2 months ago and enjoyed the interface and other enhancements over stock. I did have issues with the amount of memory used. And when the new GB stock came out I went back. But with 2.0, well YOU ROCK! Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Jayson
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Trooper Thorn:
Is there a way to get rid of this other than not syncing Facebook contacts? When I try to edit one contact in particular, it doesn't even show up as having the +1 in the phone number. But the contact record clearly has it, and I can't make the call go through.