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[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
Hopes up? Nothing has changed for me, The best news I have read was that HTC said they would unlock the EVO 3D bootloader, no one else has made they claim. I expect that the unlock method will come from HTC. If the DEV's can do it that would be nice also but none have said they will, some DEV's are trying, one group claims to have unlocked it be none have said they are going to give it to us, only HTC has made that statement.

So I really don't understand why all the posts demanding that a dev give it to us, HTC said they would and they will in a few months nothing has changed at all. HTC as far as I know are still on track, if a DEV gives it to us before HTC, that would be a bonus if not no loss I plan on using the HTC method anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] babyfacedkayos:
somehow i doubt the HTC method will allow us 2 install cyanogen as is, and will still prevent us from tethering... (or it will cost money)
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
I am sure it will be just like Samsung does, I believe HTC is going to do the right thing and unlock the bootloader, this is my 4th android phone, and only this phone's bootloader was locked like this, all my other android's I used tethering and built my own kernels, people fear that they wont be allowed to do this or that cause of sprint, we do it already on any samsung phone.

You don't have to use HTC method you can use any that you like, I believe when all is said and done most people will move over to the HTC method.
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
Our sensation forum has went downhill since we found out about alpharevx getting s-off. Sad to see you guys have too. Kinda hope alpharevx team comes out with an announcement and stops the project and doesn't release it to us, just to shut the whiners up, and make us all just wait for htc. Well im done feeding this negative thread. Later.
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
I haven't read the sensation forum, but yes threads have been poping up on 3d forum over and over about alpharevx team and this s-off thing. I am sure more threads will pop up soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] Richard_Danger:
I don't know what I'm more excited for, s-off or for people to shut the **** up about it and stop *****ing about it, and *****ing about people *****ing about it, and *****ing out noobs. Imagine if everyone on this forum actually lived in the same area. **** would be worse than west Baltimore

But in all seriousness, I love this forum, mainly for all the funny pictures.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Thank you. Seems like you and Kyle are the only people with some damn sense around here. If you want it released so bad, then go find your own exploit. You aren't the one who is working behind the scenes trying to make sure it doesn't **** up "your" device. All the while, they still have something called "life" to attend to. **** I'm so tired of whiny ass moaners on here........
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Not to start anything but how do you mistakenly upload a video to YouTube and call it a mistake. Bad judgement maybe....and that's a stretch but a mistake? Not quite sure I believe that one.

Agree with everything else though.

sent from the HTC evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
The quote by ieftm (the alpharev member that uploaded the vid) is in the OP of this thread. Here's the quote though:

Originally Posted by ieftm

It was meant to be uploaded. Just not stuck on 'public'. Hence "leak", as in, prematurely outed.

And yes, I uploaded it. No doubt about that. So while unfortunate that it got out before we were ready to do so, meh. it happened. I'm already over it.

So apparently with youtube you can upload a video, and have it set to private or something like that (not sure, I don't upload to youtube a lot). Anyways, it was mistakenly set to 'public'. At least that's what ieftm said, and I have no reason to doubt his words.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
This, but we both know East Baltimore is much worse. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
HTC said they will release it in about a month. However remember HTC will not push out an update that will automatically S-Off your phone. They will just release a new bootloader that isn't encrypted. We will then have to figure out another way to root it, maybe fre3vo might work. It probably wont be till early September that we achieve S-Off, so find something productive to do. :D

It's a shame everyone is letting this forum go to ****. The moderators should just close these BS threads or the developers should come in and say if they are or are not planning to release S-Off. Complete fail from everybody on here.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Does anyone read anymore? At all? Just a little bit? Read the OP of this very thread that you've found yourself in. You will then see some posts that were originally made by ieftm, a member of alpharevx. I'll copy and paste it to this post anyways. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONFIRMED. EVERYONE HERE IS JUST IMPATIENT.

Originally Posted by ieftm

Yes, it's being developed for shooter/pyramid, perhaps more.

Yes, across a number of HBOOTs.

No, we are not trying to trump anyone.

No, it's not done.

Yes, it will be soon and available for general consumption.

Shooter = Evo 3D for those of us who don't pay attention. So that's confirmation that we will be getting it.

As for the video itself, it apparently wasn't supposed to be set to be viewed publicly.

Originally Posted by ieftm

It was meant to be uploaded. Just not stuck on 'public'. Hence "leak", as in, prematurely outed.

And yes, I uploaded it. No doubt about that. So while unfortunate that it got out before we were ready to do so, meh. it happened. I'm already over it.

EDIT: and I do agree with you that it's a shame that the forum's are turning to ****. And they are indeed turning to ****.
[HTC EVO 3D] str8upx:
If I found the exploit and got s-off and then wrote the software for everyone to use it, I would wait until the 25th to release it. Just so all these pricks talking **** would return their phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] joeyklatzko:
This thread sucks because it's either noobs complaining they don't have S-OFF, people complaining about the noobs, or somebody like me complaining about it all.

I come to this thread to check for updates and watch silently at all the bull****.

The noobs don't understand that it takes time to develop an exploit. There is complex programming and hacking involved. If you can't do it, STFU about an ETA.

Then there are the people who respect this complexity and are frustrated at the selfishness of the noobs so they post here, trying to get noobs to understand. It is futile because noobs don't read anything but the OP and hit "reply".

And I'm just fueling the fire by adding another useless post to a thread with only one useful post in it.

-_-
[HTC EVO 3D] joeyklatzko:
That would be great justice. I would be willing to wait extra just for the satisfaction.
[HTC EVO 3D] clavoie26:
Has any one seen Unrevokeds latest tweet?
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
No what's it say

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
The one that was pointed out in this thread you mean? Indeed I have, but since it was announced that alpharevx and unrevoked are merging into one team, I'm not surprised by this. They (unrevoked and alpharevx) seems to have worked together on the S-off project.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1180129
[HTC EVO 3D] JTNiggle:
http://twitter.com/#!/unrevoked

"Exciting stuff over the next few weeks. (Mad props to #teamwin and @agrabren, too!)"
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
I'm coming pretty close to closing this thread with all the *****ing and moaning and demanding.

BUT - I own a Sensation and know how much we all want S-off for these devices, so I'll leave it open for those of you who do want to keep discussing it and staying updated.

But if there's any more crap, it will be closed without notice.

:p
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Thank you.

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
thanks :D.....
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
I say close it. Just gonna go back to garbage sometime by tomm.

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Same. When and if they decide to release it I am sure they will post a new useful thread with all the goodies. This thread is fun, but pointless. Just trash talking and instigators. Close it!
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
I've already posted a warning...so if anyone else does come in and start trolling again, they'll just end up being infracted, or being given a vacation...let's see who does it first ;) :p
[HTC EVO 3D] Mexiking10:
Challenge accepted. Just kidding lol, on a serious note though, someone mentioned earlier that ARX and Unrevoked are working together now, is that true? If so, I'm excited to see what's coming.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Good to see you Scotsman. No more hd2 I see. Im gonna miss tyween's & sergio's builds:p

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
Hehe yea...just got a Sensation...having withdrawls from flashing, but I'm sure it will start again soon with these new devices ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Zarboz:
+10

On the other hand is the alpha rev hack a bootloader only hack I wonder because i THINK dragonfyres method involves.direct.radio attack to set super cid I'm just curious the difference since an alpharev/unrevoked member said that dragonfyres method of attack was different so that makes me curious

sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
No one knows, they haven't released any specific details

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Go back and read what I said. I was not spreading a rumors. I simply past info to you that was past to me. So we can all hope it was true together.
[HTC EVO 3D] borgqueenx:
71 pages long and nothing. Talking about over-exitement.

You guys almost sound like the people who waited for the ipad2 jailbreak:P
[HTC EVO 3D] Merckle:
Just a random side note. Is there any reason they haven't really gave any updates on what is going on and what their progress is? They have several members working on the project so I would think to save the trolling and people repeating the same thing over and over. The just a opinion.

I'm just curious my self as to which approach they are both going I saw that there are 2 different methods achieved. For S-Off.
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
I'd guess there's not an awful lot they can say. They have it working, but need to test it or refine it to ensure it won't cause any issues.

One of their devs made a few comments in the Sensation AlphaRev thread (before I closed it :p) but nothing to specific.
[HTC EVO 3D] Merckle:
Very understanding, but as you see that they have had this for some time now and got leaked that they had S-Off and the masses found out and we all know where that lead to an abundance of reptative topics. I respect them to the fullest for there hard work and what they have accomplished by all means I wish I had the skill to help. I know there will always be people which will be named just people that are ya.... Lol

Just feel that if they could just update date alittle it will settle down the kids that go off on here, but at the same time why should they have to settle to their needs lol sorry devils advocate here
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
just curious, what, in the way of an 'update',

would you expect to find here ?

"getting closer" "soon" "almost there"

thread is on xda when done, or not ... no ?
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
+1

since imma keeping my 3vo

(purchased 06/21 and received 06/22)
[HTC EVO 3D] TimRuswick:
Personally I'm willing to wait as long as it takes...I don't think a lot of people realize what a COLOSSAL task this is...

I've dabled in game programming, but have always specifically strayed away from hardware programming and such...

Getting s-off without schematics or source code is like trying to pin the tale on the donkey in a football field blindfolded during a game.

I highly respect a team or individual that does the impossible.

Posted on my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] BlazinThat:
AlpharevX has a beta open to public for quite a few phones, not evo or evo 3d but somewhere around the corner more testing will be done. This is suppose to work with all boot loaders, atm there just testing. Just a few more days and im pretty sure S Off will be out for everyone. I know someone got 3D done but need more time to perfect.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
+1 screw doing hardware programming nice analogy made me laugh
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Back in earlier times..my hobby used to be cracking for window and dos..and moved up to dongles when they no longer became a challenge. Bootloader unlocking is one of the toughest cracks there really is. Many people..even developers..do not understand that while it is not impossible...it is nearly improbable it can be done. To bypass the normal loader with a custom one and making sure it can load is a very difficult task. This might be how they did it..as there are multiple ways to do. My hats off to them and a genuine gratitude I give to ALL who do it, try to do it. Your analogy was on the mark and it is just simply jaw dropping...
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Another reason for the delay could be because, as AlphaRev team has stated, this will be for a variety of devices across several hboots. Now to fully test it to make sure every device they release it for works properly is going to take some time. Not all devices, or bootloaders are the same. They are making sure that each and every person that uses there software has the least possibility of a brick. I know there will be the select few that don't follow the directions 100% and brick, but they are trying to make it easy as possible to avoid it.

I read on Facebook that the said AlphaRevX that is speculated to be released on Sunday has been confirmed to work on the 3VO too. I don't know who owns the Facebook page or how much info they really have, or if they are just trying to get people to stfu, but here is where I saw it: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sensation-Devs/183923815003272?sk=wall
[HTC EVO 3D] ieftm:
No idea where 'Sunday' is coming from. We never said that. At the same time, a lot of work will be put in over the weekend and beginning of next week, and that may or may not result in something that's releasable.

That said, as soon as we know when we will release, you'll know. There's really nothing more I can say in terms of an update, besides "making progress". Does that help? No :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
However long it takes. Thank you for the hard work and please don't pay attention to the people who are whining.
[HTC EVO 3D] Randy D:
Thank you thank you
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
This release is going to be legendary!
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Thanks for the update. It's always nice to hear it straight from the source. Keep up the good work and I promise that as soon as it is released I will be donating at least $50USD.

Hopefully this will shut some of the trolls up in here. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] lowetax:
if USD, hopefully for them, it will be released before Augst 2nd then...

always good to hear making progress ...
[HTC EVO 3D] pierre1321:
Hoorah
[HTC EVO 3D] GabrielSousa:
As soon as it is released I will donate ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
Why do you say that? Not being a troll, just am truly wondering?
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
Sooon as its released i will be glad to donate too. Can't wait!
[HTC EVO 3D] gewit:
It is legit!just be patient..
[HTC EVO 3D] firket2000:
I would assume he is referring to the us debt selling problems
[HTC EVO 3D] smarcin:
:D Ha, ha. I got it. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Merckle:
Thanks for the update can't wait for the release of it!!
[HTC EVO 3D] sparhawk6:
I'm still at a bit of a loss as to why they won't release the method that they obtained S-Off and let many eager developers bang away at packaging it into a final, usable form. Who cares if they brick their phones in doing so - they all know the risks.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
It woul be pretty ridiculous to release something that is going to brick a large number of devices even if people know the risk. What would be the point in releasing it just destroys phones? Its not really an S-OFF tool at that point but rather a tool to turn your phone into a paperweight. I'm sure these developers take pride in what they do and because of that they do not want to release something of poor quality that is just going to piss people off. If you don't agree with the sentiment of producing quality products than I understand why you are still at a loss.
[HTC EVO 3D] DomSim:
posting an exploit is a good way to get that hole filled. besides, it is theirs, can you blame them for wanting to control something they have probably had many many many sleepless nights creating?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Can someone PM when the 3D gets S-OFF? Everytime I come in here I think it's ready and good to go but come back to a massive thread that updates ridiculously quick.
[HTC EVO 3D] vboyz103:
I strongly suggest that you move on with your daily life. :)

Waiting game is a biotch but at this point nothing we can really do and the more you think about it, the worst it gets. Just enjoy temp-root and let the rest be history.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I don't think you'll need a PM. When its released, you will know!
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
This.

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[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
So a week and still nothing... meh
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
+1 10 char
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
The problem many have is they came out and leaked it way before they should have.If they came out today and said it then this would be a different ballgame.But when it is leaked that long ago it just makes them look bad to some.

Some people say hey i can wait till whenever and some want it yesterday.The only problem i have is if it was not going to be out yet they should have said NOTHING till they were about to release it.

And as someone pointed out to me what is the difference between this and what HTC is doing to us? yes i know it is a little different since this may not yet be ready but do you see how much this is like what the HTC wall was.They came out and said way to early they were going to unlock bootloaders when it fact they should have said nothing till they were ready to do it.Same applies here.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
That's why its called a leak, they didn't leak it to the public intentionally.
[HTC EVO 3D] sparhawk6:
That makes the most logical sense to me as to why they are holding off. But I thought this whole thing was for the good of the community. I guess they could release some method, charge for it, DRM it somehow and prevent others from hacking it and modifying it, but that wouldn't be in the spirit of these forums.

The whole notion that they are waiting until it "works" is bogus in my mind. All they have to do is post something here telling everyone that it will brick the phone if you try to play with it and that you should know what you are doing before tinkering, and they are covered. From then on, who cares if people brick. Other developers will know how to handle it.

I guess they are holding off for the glory and donations, which is fine. Those are good motivators for the developers here. I suppose I was naive in thinking that xda was a huge collaboration project for the betterment of the community at large only.
[HTC EVO 3D] kpkimmel:
Probably holding off because of trolls like this posting *****ing comments about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] sparhawk6:
Yeah, maybe.:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] firestetz:
I don't think it's for the glory or donations, for one even knowing the possibility I'm sure you don't want your phone bricked if you make a mistake, and two the stated it would be reversible so they might have it but want to make sure that you can reverse it if need be. Bottom line be patient nothing is owed to you or any of us it is their discovery if you want it quicker make your own hole to give you s-off
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
Think about the repercussions of putting something out that could brick phones if not perfected. You would have tons of noobs coming to xda filling the forums with a 1000 "help im bricked" threads. Then 1000 more flame posts for each. And why is everyone saying"leaked so long ago" Wasn't it leaked on tues? 3 days by my count.
[HTC EVO 3D] vampirefo:
From what I gather from their IRC the evo 3d is supported yet, now that in no way means they haven't achieved s -off on the evo 3d, that simply means at this time they aren't supporting the phone. "eg providing s -off to evo 3d users."

They are supporting several phones, in order that they decide, so they focus on those phones getting s -off then once that is done move on to next group of phones and so on.

Once they get around to supporting the evo 3d, they will provide download links and instructions, seeing the phone isn't supported yet, simply not possible to post an eta.

However each person is allowed their own interpretation. The above was just my interpretation, I am not putting words in anyone's mouth, or ideals in anyones head.
[HTC EVO 3D] killakarl:
Maybe they are sitting there reading this thread and for every complaint they are holding it back another 10th minutes. At this rate we will see it in November.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
There facebook page says they are doing the EVO 3D it is supported.Also someone said Sunday which they said its not true.

If it was not for the glory and money then why not share it with all the other Dev's?

I understand they want credit for it but either way some people will be happy to wait and others will be mad till it is released.

Also the part about the leak.Is there group that large to have a leak? i mean a leak that they did not want to get out? i have a hard time thinking that is true.

And the part about people bricking there phones each time we do stuff AKA temp root Custom Roms Testing out new stuff we always are at risk of bricking the phone.

To me they are being a lot like HTC about it.A so called leak then hush hush about how when where why about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
If that were true then HTC would hold back for 5 years with how much bad press they have had over it.But if it was for money the longer they wait the more people they piss off and the less donations they get but i think it would be childish if that were the case.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Excitement to get something...then you use it and your phone bricks...unrecoverable I might add.will squash any hopes, dreams and leads to a feeling of real emotions called hopelessness and a very expensive paperweight in your hands...you don't or do want that?
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Wow. You just don't understand. Either that or you are just trolling. Please read the OP of this thread, it should help you get it. And things like temp root and flashing roms carry only a minuscule fraction of the risk of bricking compared to anything that is messing with your bootloader. Screwing with the bootloader always has a larger risk of bricking the device than anything else.

Also, why do you feel that alpharev owes us anything at all. Why do you feel so entitled? Would you know how to find an exploit in the bootloader and set it to s off faster? Also, why do you think that other devs would be able to help with perfecting this tool? This isn't like polishing off a Rom here. Very few devs know how to hack a bootloader, don't be confused by this. It is extremely difficult.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
What they are doing is making a list of all the crap talkers and non believers. Then they will issue a key for the people they feel deserve the tool. Hope you have been nice and not naughty.;)
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Speculations, rumors and things like it...think about it...what creaking right do we have to demand anything..just becuase we have the phone, just becuase we as a cummunity want it?...are they obligated?....I mean where do we have the right to *****, moan, complain, rumors it, speculate to try to make them release it faster...when they release it...its released...simple as that and we simply have to wait and thank then for the fact....they did it.
[HTC EVO 3D] wbchristmas:
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