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[LG Optimus 3D] Alex Atkin UK:
Which makes sense because as the pixels get smaller, the viewing angle gets smaller, its generally harder to make a parallax barrier work as well. Its one reason I am hoping for a 3DS XL as if I am right it would have better viewing angles.

Its tricky business as conversely the more pixels you have the better the effect should be, purely because you have more information to trick your eyes with, but that is 3D in general not factoring in the parallax barrier.

This is all very curious, as I had read the EVO had better quality cameras than the O3D so theoretically should be taking better 3D photos. So it may just be a software issue that the EVO is not setting the image overlap as good as the O3D does, so the situation could change with a quick firmware update.

Still I would like to think the O3D is better as, after all, I bought it rather than waiting for the EVO. I really fancied the higher resolution screen but the priority was on the 3D which it seemed LG were more keen on exploiting whereas the EVO it almost seemed like an after thought - with no mention if it does YouTube 3D or not.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
I not seen one video on the Evo that looks good really, they all seem to suffer from HTC's usual crap camera quality and no 1080p recording in 2D that's poor.
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
that opinion is useless to me...the quality of the evo3d camera is better then the optimus camera. reviewers almost all agree about this.

BUT...the 3d effect of the camera's is better on the optimus3d. some think this is a software issue, but i dont know...
[LG Optimus 3D] wiebenik:
3d quality optimus 3d

i played a week ago on Optimus 3d and i am impressed about 3d quality

the "pre installed movies" are unbelievable as i compaire with what i have seen on an expensive 3D TV. i think i choose optimus 3d but i have the ability to try

my devices 2 weeks. in August my wife and i may choose a new phone:)

also in august is on the 6th the launch day of Evo 3d, so i order a optimus 3d and an Evo 3d.

Than i can compair both the devices 2 weeks and return one of the two devices.

I LET YOU KNOW WICH IS THE BEST IN MY OPINION!!!

but i followed for 4 months the both the devices on internet and here on XDA and dont missed a review of both devices on youtube.

My opinion for now: HTC is crap because this device have a lot of troubles, design not the most elegant as it have 2 big buttons for the camera and a big hole in it for mini USB.... i think it is a not finished yet device, look at that cheap lookin carousel (its on iPhone Cydia for 0.99$) and the cover bends when you open it te replace memory and that sort of stuff.

But i have paciense because we have almost full root on it... it hink that if some dev,s fix a lot of troubles i buy this one and a red

Body glove cover(then the over sized buttons looks smaller and gives Evo 3d a more expensive look)

Optimus have a sleek elegant design overall 3d Quality looks fine.. the next update can convert 2d games to 3d games as now it can convert 2d images to 3d images.(i like it)
[LG Optimus 3D] mmace:
hmmm, I've viewed a LOT of photos taken by the Evo 3D and I don't agree, the quality is not as good, and in a lot of cases the right camera is out of focus, not good!
[LG Optimus 3D] Alex Atkin UK:
I didn't know that as GSM Arena says it does 1080p at 24fps, like the O3D until they bumped it up to 30fps with the retail firmware.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
Noticed that myself.

Also the Evo 3D can only take 3D pictures at the resolution of 2mp while the LG I believe is 3 or 3.5 can't recall.

The HTC EVO 3D has no feature to protect 3D technology from offsets.

The LG Optimus 3D has Real Time Misalignment Correction to protect 3D technology from dropping/ heating/ humidity which can result in offset throughout the device’s lifetime
[LG Optimus 3D] snowing:
Cannot agree more on this. HTC's weakest part is their camera for sure. The EVO 3D 5mp cameras share the same fate as other HTC phone with 5mp camera. Under explosure and poor optics for the camera seems to be haunting EVO 3D. Also under bright light, it has issue with flares as well. This is also common with other 5mp camera from HTC.

Althought can't really say LG O3D's 5mp camrea is the best, but at least it is way better than HTC's one. It does not come with problem like under explosure. weird halos etc.. Also note that O3D takes 3mp 3D photos vs EVO3D 2mp

It is also quite normal for LG to have better 3D viewing quality than HTC. LG already had this tech fro their other appliances. It's more comfortable to view O3D's 3D. Probably the design in the parallax display is the key point here.
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Well we both do not know if the evo3d's will really have offset problems.

Time will learn. Else maybe there will be software to manually align, if its a software thing, that is.
[LG Optimus 3D] m33ts4k0z:
The 3D photos resolution on O3D is idd 3MP, you can see that on the menu to the left when you are taking a photo.
[LG Optimus 3D] mmace:
the images on the O3D are 4096x1536, half the horizontal for each eye = 2048x1536 = 3,145,728 pixels (3.15MP)

images from Evo 3D are 3840x1080, half the horizontal for each eye = 1920x1080 (full HD) = 2,073,600 pixels (2MP)
[LG Optimus 3D] ian928:
Wider viewing angles on the optimus are quite possible considering the design of the parallax barrier and especially the evo's higher resolution.

More crisp though I doubt. I have avatar 3d and despicable me 3d on my evo and the 3d effect is amazing! I nearly lost my stomach during the first person roller coaster ride in despicable me. I showed that scene to my friend who absolutely hates 3d and he was really impressed.

But anyway, broader viewing angles on the optimus I can believe but the amount of depth and popout of the 3d effect is determined by the source not the screen.
[LG Optimus 3D] peacekeeper05:
As a person who already had the chance to test both device. I have the optimus, my friend has the evo 3d. I don' t know how to explain it in technical terms but 3d viewing on the optimus really is far far superior. And my friend agrees with me. About the evo 3d camera being better in taking 2d.. i still am not sure... Evo 3d takes better photos during dark conditions while my optimus takes better 2d during daylight, and the 30 fps 1080p update improved video capture of the optimus.... Again, this is just the opinion of my friend and me.
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
You should play a 3d hd movie on both devices and test it that way. Not with the camera's app or being impressed with the optimus launcher.

2 desame files, preferred ripped from a 3d bluray and converted for both devices.

THEN tell us wich device is better. I think it will be the 3vo for the higher resolution.
[LG Optimus 3D] Jabbypants:
You don't seem to grasp what people are saying and reviewers, the 3D effect is better on the LG not just videos recorded on the phone but playing videos from films, if it does a better job producing 3D on the screen it makes no difference what the source is the simple fact is LG have done a better job.
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
thats what i first thought...but people have been saying to me all over at the evo3d section that its not an adjustable technology. one set of pixels to one eye, one set to another. how much depth and pop out effects the game/image/video got, is up to the creator of that file.

Ofcource its the evo3d section and some probaly seek to say their device is better in all reasons, but i did some research on what these guys said and i have the feeling that they might be correct. im not choosing sides. i dont have either phones and want the best as soon my contract ends within a month(and that is if the evo3d comes out soon else my choice is easy)

The reviewers most likely do not know how this 3d effect works, and therefore look to the optimus 3d menu launcher, and then to a 3d photo, for example.

I mean doing that will not let you know wich is better..3

about viewing angle's and stuff i do not care alot. a phone is made to look right at it IMO. an tablet with 3d is another story, there i would go for a wider viewing angle as well.

i do not know how 3d technology works, but think i got a pretty good fact by the evo3d guys?
[LG Optimus 3D] mmace:
you're beginning to sound like the guys over there, they hate anything negative being said against the Evo 3D, it's very fanboyish.

It sounds like you've had your mind made up and you're not listening to what we are saying. Just pick yourself up an Evo 3D and be done with it!
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Again, i doubt the trustworthyness of those reviews and talk of owners simply because i think they did not view desame content on both phones. They opened differrent stuff, and one movie can be greater in 3d then another.

Please. Im not a fanboy. I simply want the best phone for me. Here everyone says its the optimus 3d, at the evo3d side people say thats the best phone. Im extracting my info from everyone so i can make my choice.
[LG Optimus 3D] mmace:
yet the few who have seen both phones have said the Optimus does 3D a LOT better and you're not believing them on this thread. It's like I said, it seems like you've made up your mind already.
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
They simply have not said if they viewed desame content?

And like i said if its true what they said at the evo3d section, the effect can be set by the movie maker, photo focus ect...everything.

So i need people who viewed avatar 3d for example on both phones. Desame file.
[LG Optimus 3D] snowing:
If what the guys over EVO3D said is true, then why bother thinking about which phone to choose? They will simply be the same whenever a phone comes out.

Lets look at it the other way, for plain LCD screens, why would different people choose different brands. It is simply because for the same technilogy, diffferent company has their own implementation. That's why some will say Sony's are bright and beautiful, Samsung's are saturated, Philip's ones have natural touch to color tone.

So think of it this way, parallax barrier is a technology. You are "sending" 2 sets of pixels to your eyes. One for left and one for right eye. The guys over at EVO3D are assuming that the angle and the amount of light sending to each eye is the same for every manufacturer, and this is why both implementations are the same. But then do you think that manufacturers will share this kind of information to others? So at the of day, the theory of how it work is the same, but how LG and HTC make the whole thing work is definitely different.

I have viewed both phones myself. Without 3D, the extra pixels in EVO3D really make things look nicer, but when switched the 3D on, really have to say it is there but not that usable. I can look and play with 3D on O3D without problem on bus for an hour or so, but try that with evo3D I can't stand to use for more than 10 minutes with 3D on. If stand still, I can play for 1/2 hour. The viewing angle and self adjustment on O3D is superior to evo3D.

I would really suggest, instead of keep asking the same questions in both O3D and EVO3D area, you better really wait for the real phone to have a look to compare. The 3D arena is simply not an easy experience to describe.
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Thanks, although you didnt say if you watched desame file...dizzyness is human related? Ive read the evo3d causes dizzyness to some users faster then the o3d, but also vice versa. I do want to view them both but there is no way of telling for 100% sure if the evo3d will launch here when im back from holidays so i rely on info from you guys...if i wait...i pay 45 euro a month for basicly nothing...wich sucks so i want to buy a phone as soon as i return. If the evo3d is good as my descision i will pay those 45 euro to wait one more month...

I hate it that htc is maybe delaying stuff...puts me in a difficult position.

If i could see both phones in actiom for guarantee i would not ask these opinions.
[LG Optimus 3D] bolinao:
Well said and so true :)
[LG Optimus 3D] mad_sunday:
WTF is a desame file? Am I missing something, I've never heard of one, is it some kind of special 3D effect?

Pete
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Lol like trolling?
[LG Optimus 3D] ian928:
Part of the problem is that when people say better 3d it is very poorly defined. When they go on they talk about viewing comfort and superior sweet spot. When I say 3d effect I am referring only to depth and popout.

For instance, the evo can view 3d pics in portrait as well as landscape. Now portrait has a very narrow sweet spot. There is a lot of crosstalk so it takes a little time to find the sweet spot. I would say the 3d is much better in landscape. But when I view the same pic in portrait and landscape the amount of depth and popout is proportionally the same on both, ie if you hold the phone at different distances so the images appear to be the same size.

Now the evo has never given me a headache even after hours of viewing 3d content but it sounds as if you are someone who is prone to getting headaches from 3d then you should probably go with the optimus.

Someone needs to do a side by side comparison of a high quality 3d movie such as avatar. I find the viewing angles to be quite broad and it's very comfortable to watch for a long time and at the same time the 3d effect is amazing.
[LG Optimus 3D] exceleth:
Just search for some benchmark results. You will see which phone is better. I would never throw away tri dual, omap4, great 3d and a great design just for a little bit more pixels. I find all htc devices ugly, including evo 3d. If the only pro's of evo 3d are more pixels and better night pictures, I would never doubt, and I didnt. I have my O3D afterall ;)
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
This.

+1

And im not someone who's getting a headache fast. I have like one headache every year, ans then its not that bad.

Watched alot 3d in cinema, never got a headache. Only on the 3ds i had problems adjusting my eyes to the fake depth.
[LG Optimus 3D] altec1000:
Maybe you can wait a few months.

http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-3d-arriving-q4-2011

Looks like 3D will be in more smartphones. So ppl who complain about 3D. It's

inevitable :D

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-new...5-inch-720p-super-bright-no-glasses-3d-screen
[LG Optimus 3D] brownhornet:
No offense but LG actually had the audacity to ship this phone with froyo still. And most of us know the qHD screen in comparison on the E3D causes the benchmark to be lower due to higher pixelation... the same way the retina on the Iphone 4 causes it to benchmark lower than the Iphone 3GS. Certainly doesnt translate to it being a better phone.
[LG Optimus 3D] exceleth:
I think this does not prove anything. Can you lower the pixellation of evo? NO.. So you must suffer the slowness each time. If you cant make a higher resolution competent, then why make it higher resolution?
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Like someone said. The iphone 4 scores lower then the 3gs but let me tell you that it is way faster then the 3gs. While the screen has the highest dpi i ever saw.

And now that we are talking about 3d effects, how will this phone record a lasershow in 3d?

Something cool or will it have problems focussing?

Im a laserist and i would like to know this^^
[LG Optimus 3D] RubenGM:
This.

WTF is a desame file?
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Means im asking someone with both a optimus3d and evo3d, so watch both avatarevo3dconverted.sbs files on both devices. Not anohter converted file or something else.
[LG Optimus 3D] mad_sunday:
Oh, are you asking if people are using THE SAME file? Text speak l guess?

Pete
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Well im not a hero in english and i think desame is good enough for people to understand me. I guess not here lol.
[LG Optimus 3D] peacekeeper05:
okay... the only 3D bluray disc that is available for me to test is THOR and tron legacy... took me 2 days to figure out how to convert it to files that will be compatible to o3d and e3d.

seriously, setting bias aside the O3D 3d display is far superior, there is something within the o3d screen that make 3d viewing more comfortable and easy... the E3D though having higher resolution was too washed out and weird... there were three of us watched the same movie... we conducted another test, three of us was able to see 3d effect on the O3D at the same time watching it... while on the e3D only the person on the middle can see the 3D effect..

buy the both phones if you still can't believe o3d has better 3d display... meh...
[LG Optimus 3D] borgqueenx:
Thanks, thats useful info:)

Ok, estabilished on my list: optimus3d better 3d.

But still i have hope i can view them in store but that depends on htc and the release date...
[LG Optimus 3D] bolinao:
Great then this debate is settled then,the o3d 3d effect is far Superior than the 3d effect on the e3d,looks like those reviewers were correct after all.

Now watch the HTC fanboys still argue that you are wrong :rolleyes:.

Salamat po kuya peacekeeper05 :p
[LG Optimus 3D] otacon888:
Got my O3D today finally and I am impressed with the 3D.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
Help please.I didn't have this problem before.i i am on xxkb3 f.m..Sometimes when i send sms despite the delivery report i see force close.and network coverage just disappears.after 3-4 seconds network coverage restores.help to solve this please...:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] podanimesh:
reflash ur firmware or check for viruses.it would be recomended to flash and repost it here
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
exactly appears this:The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly.Please try again....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
and i scanned it via antivirus of the PC.no viruses founded.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskiratsingh:
Try this...if you didn't hard reset after xxkb3 then hard reset the phone. If you did then try the following:

take backup of messages

Go to settings, applications, manage applications, go to all, open messaging, force stop and clear data.

Don't restore the messages and try

If this fails boot into recovery and wipe cache, reboot and again clear data for messaging if exists
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
i havent done the hard reset after reflashing).sorry for noob question but which is the code for hard reset?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
*2767*3855# ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ephraim:
Right..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskiratsingh:
Yes
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
thanks.lets see if this will solve.i hope so(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
ohh no.Hard reset didn't solve it(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
oh no,hard reset+ force close and clear data didn't solve it((( how to go into recovery and wipe cache?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ephraim:
Turn off your phone -> hold volume up+home button+power.. After you feel the vibration release the power button while holding the volume and home button..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
and press wipe cache partition?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
i can see wipe cache partition but how to select it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskiratsingh:
Use the volume up and down key and home key to select it
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
cache wipe complete.and now reboot system now?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ephraim:
Sorry for the late reply..yes reboot the system now..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
it is okay)).hope it works(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nightwish sgsl:
hmm. i sent 5 messages,all was succesfull.now i can send.but two times ifter receiving delivery report again appeared force close.whhy?(((my phone is damaged?all other things is working.roblem is only on sms(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] timmay2t:
I'm having terrible luck finding a video chat app that works. Mostly from my Inc2 to an iPhone 4. The issues seem to be on my end.

Tango only has one sided audio, i can hear her, she can't hear me. Video works fine.

Qik just kicks off for me, hers keeps working and mine loses connection after a 5 second duration.

Haven't found a skype with video chat yet or i just haven't looked good enough.

Anybody found anything that has worked? I checked out fring but the video quality was horrible.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mmapcpro:
Did any of you used to be able to OC and/or UV with no problems, even at 1500MHz, but now are unable to get the same performance out of your g2x?

Mine did. When I first started flashing on this phone, I was able to run oc/uv kernals at 1500MHz, and even uv the lower end an additional -50 beyond what the kernal is already undervolted at...and run back to back smartbenches with no problems...but now, any attempt to uv leads me to forced reboots, and any attempt to clock higher than 1200 does the same. I've tried every rom and kernal on this site. I wonder if I damaged my phone with the high oc early on.
[Galaxy S II General] mafiaboy01:
Hey guys I have an imported sgs2 here in Canada and hopeing to get my hands on the bell modem.

Let me know if someone can rip it.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy S2 on TELUS.
[Galaxy S II General] Elythor:
Same here. A Bell modem will be much appreciated. I'm just running on XXKE4 and I'm suffering from the 3G/H+ disconnection problem. Tried a few other modems but still doesn't seem to help.
[Galaxy S II General] ekjl:
I'm also getting the intermittent 3G/H+ switching. Sometimes even on 3G, I get no data and it times out.

I'm on Fido network.

I have modem XXKE7 and kernal XWKF3.
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
Lol i will be so funny when you finally get bell modem and realise that it still switches between 3g and h+ periodically.

Lmfao h+ turns on to indicate the data is active youre still on 3g. That is your background apps pooling data periodically or when browser loads the page it will revert to 3g icon till you press next link and here we go again.

For disconects upgrade to xxkg2 modem and after that blame your network.

Im running on fido in gta just fine except fir rogers coverage gapps in cetrain areas for example in dixie/rathburn area youll get full 3g signal but data is very slow and at times nonexistant.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] virtuatony:
I used an unlocked UK GS2 on Telus, and the only trouble I've had is with disconnections, I realized the phone switches between H+,H, and 3G to save battery.

It seems leading up the release of the GS2 by Bell changes must have been made to the RAN as the data disconnection problem happens a lot less frequently than it used to.

Although I've used it on Rogers with no issues so hopefully the newer firmware totally removes the issue for me on Telus.
[Galaxy S II General] DvTonder:
I am getting a lot of disconnects (total disconnect with restart) with KG2 on Bell in Toronto. KG1 seemed a lot more solid.

Will see what modem bell launches with tomorrow - somehow I don't think it will be KG2
[Galaxy S II General] mafiaboy01:
Since I've been running the KG2 modem it seems to be a bit better.

But a proper radio from bell will be the best.
[Galaxy S II General] chargen2:
Tried disabling fast dormancy?
[Galaxy S II General] DvTonder:
Trying now
[Galaxy S II General] virtuatony:
Disabling fast dormancy at first appears to work for me but then after some time it dropped its connection to the tower, however with fast dormancy disabled it seems to regain it's data connection much faster after the drop when compared to before.

Also I've noticed that the speedtest results are double with fast dormancy disabled and it seems to be using a bit more battery.
[Galaxy S II General] jonoball88:
I have a problem with using this phone on Telus. Get a script error and it looses data and then signal all together and it happens about 5 times a day. Anything I can do?
[Galaxy S II General] mafiaboy01:
Anyone been able to dump it yet?

Sent from Samsung Galaxy S2 on TELUS.
[Galaxy S II General] tankrd:
I just installed KG3 on my uk s2 and the radio does not kick out anymore. But i also added proxy address and port to my bell apn as it was not there originally. Either way looks like my data disconnect is solved.