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[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
I wanna go tmo.. but i dont know how long tmo will survive so i'm waiting it out.. (that and my desire z (bell canada's) is still kinda new.. i dont wanna replace it.. yet.

maybe in 2 years i'll switch phones.
[G2 and Desire Z General] arsonist63086:
T-Mobile will last enough for you to finish your contract and start a new
[G2 and Desire Z General] lowlight1974:
ROFL. Prove it, and then you can speak about anything "server side". Until then, try not to make a jackass of yourself when attempting to make a jackass of someone else by not opening mouth and inserting foot.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Wow your plans in america are expensive... in the UK I get unlimited texts, (truly) unlimited internet, 250 minutes for £10 a month :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] PaganAng3l:
What are you talking about? It's a proven fact that it's server side, and I don't have to prove it because you can read about it all you want with the search button. Jackass..... lulz
[G2 and Desire Z General] KyraOfFire:
I can understand why you're unhappy with data throttling, I would really hate that too...

but I REALLY want to ask, why didn't you turn on wifi at home??? It makes no sense not to use your wifi at home....
[G2 and Desire Z General] astromanic:
I'm so sad I'm going back to the states and t-mobile.

Taiwan unlimited plan was truly unlimited. (see usage over 5 months)

Not looking forward to my 5gb throttle
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrbmg:
59 gb!! Wtf! That's a lot of porn! You must work off your phone. Yeah, you're going to get screwed...
[G2 and Desire Z General] selfinflicted1:
If you go to the T-Mobile site they have a 5 gig plan with unlimited text and 100 voice min for 30 bucks. Can't beat it. Not a lot of minutes but use groove ip or a similar app and make your calls over data. I mean does anyone talk on the phone anymore? 80% of my communications are text so its the best plan for me. And if you had to add minutes its still cheaper than the 70 dollar plan. Anyway figured I would put that out there....
[G2 and Desire Z General] Tuffshift:
Saving $35, switch from post-paid to Monthly4G ($60.00) Luckily, I have not hit the throttle limit, although I do have 'use wifi when avail.' on.

In the upcomming years, we all will easily be pushing 2-5g monthly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] N4n45h1:
When does throttling begin for most people?

I have the unlimited plan circa 2010, and while I haven't exceeded 3gb in the past few months, I have broken 4gb in the past without any noticeable throttling.

Is it possible that throttling is more prevalent in more congested areas? I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan... which isn't exactly filled with people.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TpmKranz:
That looks like a troll

Well that's really cheap, sir. :eek:

I'm paying 20 € for unlimited texts, 100 minutes and 300 MBytes of internet. But neither I nor a friend of mine having the same plan abide that limit :D

After wondering how it was possible for him to watch a YouTube video after exceeding the 300 MB we found out that shutting down the phone and waiting for a few seconds usually removes the throttle. :D

I also live in a quite deserted region. But what should it have to do with throttling? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] N4n45h1:
I would think that throttling is only necessary when it either stresses their network or encroaches upon the quality of another user's service, granted they may also just draw a line at some point. This is mainly because their costs increase significantly when their network is under considerable strain.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rmcsc:
I have the same plan I got when I first joined T-Mobile and got the myTouch 3G (plan shows up as "myTouch Unlimited Data" on bill). I've

never been throttled

, even after hitting 10GB+ in a month.

I'm very wary not to change my plan because of this...
[G2 and Desire Z General] TpmKranz:
Quite obvious :D

But the contract states:

Ab einem Datenvolumen von 300 MB wird die Bandbreite im jeweiligen Monat auf max. 64 kBit/s (Download) und 16 kBit/s (Upload) beschränkt.

Which could be translated like:

After reaching a data volume of 300 MB the bandwidth will be limited to 64 kBit/s (downstream) and 16 kBit/s (upstream) in the respective month.

(Hope it is comprehensible :D )

So we were quite astounded when we found out how to cheat the system ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] O0cynix0o:
I'm having the same issue. I've tried different roms different phones. I asked a rep and they said it might have something to do with the way my sim card is provisioned.
[G2 and Desire Z General] O0cynix0o:
As far as I understand if you do your going to be given the same plan as if you had never had a contract before. IE. The *wink* *wink* unlimited 5GB's.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rmcsc:
1. Buy unlocked.

2. Enjoy your unlocked phone.

3. ???

4. Profit!
[G2 and Desire Z General] O0cynix0o:
Very true. But I know that I can't afford an unlocked phone.... other wise I'd have an HTC One X quad core in my hot hands right now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tarroyo:
What I've noticed is that if you don't use too much data during 'peak hours' you won't be throttled past your limit.

I'm past 10 gigs and haven't been throttled have been downloading, viewing pages every other hr or every every other.

Being throttled in the past during early morning hrs or mid afternoon hrs, What I'm also thinking is that your throttling has to be noticed in t-mobile's system and turned on? If that makes any sense.

Just my experience.
[G2 and Desire Z General] O0cynix0o:
Just found put my 25 dollar plan is truly unlimited.... I shouldn't be throttled at all. Now I understand why every rep is trying to get me to switch my data plan....sneaky bastards!! I also shouldn't have to pay for teathering.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Zephead:
I've had my data plan since March '10 and I have the $20 plan (a promo they had) I get throttled after 5GB the most I've used is 2.5GB but I called TMo just to make sure and they said I would be throttled after 5GB. I can tether as much as I want though on stock G2 and rooted CM7 N1 and they've never bothered me about it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Zephead:
How long have you had your plan?
[G2 and Desire Z General] O0cynix0o:
Since the G1 came out...about 4 years or so. I figure that's why the sneaky bastards keep trying to change it on me. Every time I go to a T Mobile store to complain about not getting the speed I pay for, the inevitable "I see here you have an old plan we no longer offer....I'm going to need to make changes to it to test some stuff out..." And that's pretty much where I tell them to stop. I get "4G" speeds and always use about 10Gb's every cycle.

Sent from my rooted and debloated T Mobile HTC One S
[G2 and Desire Z General] captainreynolds:
I've got the same thing here with my G2 - actually my whole family does. We have truly unlimited (though I think none of us ever get even close to 5GB) and free tethering for all our phones. Life's good with T-Mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z General] chancy319:
Why are we paying more for internet on a mobile device than high speed cable for homes or offices??
[G2 and Desire Z General] demkantor:
My high speed home internet cost more than my phone plans, 50 a month @ home and slightly less for my cell unlimited plan. Yet to be throttled but I'm almost always using wifi so I may never be, 3g4g is just a backup for me
[G2 and Desire Z General] killj0y:
Got throttled for two Weeks got the second time. Just lifted on the 19th. Lately my home ISP has been threatening with the damn cap too. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I wouldn't mind as much if it was a reasonable speed but dialup speeds is just ridiculous!
[G2 and Desire Z General] killj0y:
What sucks is where I live the ISP i have is the only option they just added the cap last year 150 GB
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deadman3000:
I want to mount a Windows 7 shared folder on the TF. I have tried both cifsmaner and Mount Manager and both keep telling me no such device exists. The share is on 192.168.x.x on E drive in a folder called Share. I have made it accessible to Everyone and I have no problems accessing it from File Expert or ES File Explorer. But I cannot get it to mount on the TF.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Oops! Should be posted in general sorry about that.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
You tell me...

http://callip.wordpress.com/

I gave credit to the Samsung Galaxy line.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Advertising your website while trying to make people interested with the title... hmmmmmmm

smart.
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
The brand itself made the iphone successful..

I recommend iphone too to those whoever looking to get a smartphone, especially the ones I think are not really OS/smartphone enthusiasts..

Both android and iphone are great OS'.. It's just much simpler and refined iOS is compared to android.. I think the Galaxy s2 made it right out of all the android smartphones out there..

Thanks to its great specs and incorporation into the OS..

And also... We keep on waiting for the next iteration of android to work right.. We said that about gingerbread then honeycomb.. Lol.. Is honeycomb not that good either?
[Vibrant General] boystuff:
ios and android are just 2 sides of the same coin.

Android gives the user a more advanced and easily customizable interface as well as open source, minus side is stability and hardware/software compatibilty.

IOS gives you the security of a rock solid stable OS with the comfort of knowing your OS is built around your hardware, thus no incompatibility or unsupported features. downside is closed OS no source info apple controlled market and complete lack of customization.

Android = Mobile Technology Enthusiast

IOS = Business savy person, or parent, people who need to be 100% certain everything works 24/7 (or trend hopping teen)

i have an ipod touch, a galaxy S, I love both

I have an Imac and a self built windows 7 gaming rig, I love both

Mind you these are my opinions and as such yours may differ.

as a person who loves the best of both worlds i use Miui with the Vexillium Project icon set, this gives an iphonish polish and feel with the customization of android that i have grown to love.
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Android is more for the tech savvy people, while apple is for people that don't really know much, with the iphone though, you don't get leaks, either your phone is supported, or its old and will forsure never get updates (apple).

Sent from my SGH-T959
[Vibrant General] mrrobc97:
I think it was best said by the first comment left (by Marcelo) on your article. Marketing! They make it look so pretty, so gleaming ,so slick, so simple to use. Kids want it, teens want it, Moms and Dads want it. Marketing! Its the one luxury that its in reach of the average American. Can't have a Mercedes like that guy, can't have a mansion like that guy , but hey he has an iPhone WTF I could get that! Marketing! We are a nation of consumers who are told what we want via a TV/Internet commercial. Marketing!

Sent from a 34 y.o.guy who still lives with his Momma but owns a PS3,a Xbox,a Wii, a 55" 3D flat screen.....and two Vibrants.;)
[Vibrant General] mrrobc97:
...j/k I don't live with my Momma but my wife tries to be.:mad:
[Vibrant General] GreggoryD502:
One area where apple has a big advantage is how easy it is to change themes or customize iphones. My buddy at work has an iphone 4 and it jail broke. Thru cydia he installed something call a dream board (or something like that). Thru that he can go from theme to them within a few seconds and there are zero issues. Also its super easy to change signal, wifi icons etc... Now us android usuers know what a pain it is to change almost anything on your phone. Finding something compatible with your rom, make a back up, flash, reboot, cross fingers , say a prayer and hope everything works like it should.
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
MIUI an cyanogen mod :)
[Vibrant General] ABCStore:
It is also super easy to remotely brick an Iphone permanently...
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Should I post ALL of the (what i consider pointless) threads that you have created?

How many times have I helped you?

My site has no ads and I receive no income.. I am, like always, just trying to help.

I swear XDA runs people away. I've already moved all of my guides to RootzWiki... and I am extremely close from removing myself because of comments like this.

Forgive me for linking to my blog, rather than copying/pasting the entire article.

And yes, I did try and interest people with the Title.. the title is the article's title. Shock Face.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I agree.. Marcelo had an amazing comment. So well in fact he has already written an article for the blog... can't wait to post it... I suppose I will not post it here since some people get offended by it.
[Vibrant General] gamikzone:
u can use the theme chooser from t-mobile on Gingerbread :p u cant root iphones and put custom roms on them
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
hey bro i was joking. i liked your article... i read them when theres a new one.
[Vibrant General] atoz350:
You can post it here. I enjoyed the article. It's different if your purpose was to sell something, but even if you had ads, it's not against the rules.

As for the topic:

My wife's sister is an apple iPhone convert to Android with the Galaxy S Vibrant. Observing her everyday dealing with the phone would come to the conclusion that the iPhone is just simpler. She had her iPhone before I met her, so I didn't get to see her initial learning curve into the smartphone arena. She often complained about the Galaxy's constant crashing, slowness, and terrible battery life. (She's the type of person who only charges once every three days). A custom ROM did not make things better, and shouldn't have to as she put it. She loves the Market and all of the nifty apps that she can download. She uses that often. She didn't have many apps on her iPhone.

It makes you think. I've found that a lot of features that I used apps for previously are built right in to the MIUI ROM and negates the use of an external app. I believe that a lot of features should be implemented into the OS, and should not require an external app, or custom ROM to access it. This is something that needs improvement. To me, an intuitive UI isn't only about being pretty, but being complete in the sense that I don't have to customize it in order for it to be fully functional.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
iOS has superior apps, a superior user interface, a more battery-friendly design and superior media ecosystem (iTunes Store, etc.).

Even where the same apps exist, the iOS version is most often better.

Also, the build quality of the iPhone is superior to practically every Android device on the market. The only other smartphone I've owned that came close was the HD2 (boy has HTC gone down the ****ter since then?).

I simply can't deal with it because a 3.5" screen isn't enough for me. I need 4" at least on the screen. Anything less is not usable to me as a daily driver.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
That's because it is pretty, gleaming, slick, and simple to use.

It's not marketing. Go to an AT&T or Verizon store and look at it.

It's so good, that even Samsung tried their damnest to copy the Look and Feel of it, and Android even borrowed many UI elements from iOS.

Lots of people got Vibrants preciecely because it was a 3GS look-alike with Android on it (skinned to look like iOS) and they didn't want to get AT&T's service to get an iPhone.
[Vibrant General] GreggoryD502:
That's true to an extent. But not every android phone can run GB. So that's not an option for everyone. Plus apple os is pretty slick right out of the box. No need for custom roms.

Bi-winning V3
[Vibrant General] whatever5:
In terms of build quality yes and in terms of efficiency their iOS is efficient but there phone is a nightmare for people with big hands which is why I generally see more women own iPhones and more guys own android phones
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
While this is all true i think google knows this an thats where ice cream sandwich comes in cant wait an gonna be open source so that mean CM8 :D unlike honeycomb :(
[Vibrant General] gamikzone:
also apple has a limited amount of models pretty much just iphones while android has many devices and models for your prefrence :D
[Vibrant General] suchavibrantthang:
i'm not sure what this says about most iphone users, but i was showing my cousin (35) a picture on my phone and when it went to sleep. he was having sucha a difficult time with the unlock screen (rotary unlock) that he just handed it back to me. I was like man, you have the same concept on your iphone dude.

anyway, apple is polished yes, but it's far too boring and it's a device for the old folks who "need" the "super user friendly" UI to get things done.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Really, most people will find this comment hillarious coming from a Vibrant owner.

Not to mention the [rather wide] generalization is hillarious.

iPhones are for people who expect the OEM to do the dirty work while they get work done on their phones.

Until Android OEMs learn to support their phones as well as Apple does the iPhone, no Android device will be able to touch it. It's that simple.

The only major downfall is the small size. I'm suprised Apple insists on sticking with such a small screen, especially on a media focused device. It makes almost no ergonomic sense to stare that something so tiny for an extended period of time (to me).
[Vibrant General] jalenthejiv:
android

android is better its more freedom than a iphone android all the way
[Vibrant General] ipetloudog:
Go right ahead and drop your iphone4. Cmon. Ill even drop my vibrant so we can compare build quality.
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
I don't understand why people think a phone that you can't hold without losing signal is better built. A phone made out of Styrofoam, plastic, and held together by tape is a better built phone than one of titanium, carbon fiber, and screws if the latter can't even stay locked on to a cell signal. That's like saying that a Ferrari that breaks down every 5 miles is better built than every other car on the road that doesn't.

People's perception about build quality sure is strange.
[Vibrant General] mrrobc97:
I was not saying that it wasn't pretty, gleaming, slick, or whatever. What i meant to say was.... Aghh! I give up. We could keep this going on forever people but the fact of the matter is that people are gonna have their opinions and other will not agree. The best answer between which is better iPhone or Android is going to be whichever works for YOU and YOUR lifestyle and makes YOU the happiest. The End.
[Vibrant General] sahil04:
There are upsides and downsides to both. For Apple, even though they are basically the same phone on different carriers, that opens up a whole new possibility of accessory options and aftermarket customization for your phone.

Many different devices also means less support as N8ter pointed out, I don't think OEM's now will ever support Android the way Apple supports the iPhone.
[Vibrant General] Vibrant03:
OEMs don't support their android devices? What does that mean? Like they don't deliver uodates? Well it's android, open, and fragmented, but they do send updates in a non timely fashion.. Lol

I think it's a better comparison between iphone and a nexus device.. And we all know why..

My only gripe with android is the mediocre UI, although i love the customizable homescreen, the UI animation/transition is not as sleek, pretty and polished as iOS.. Also the forecloses, freezings.. Ughh, must be patient..

Still an android fan i am..
[Vibrant General] MailenJokerbell:
No, they just make shinier things and brand it as "better".
[Vibrant General] ABCStore:
Let me repeat one more time:

Iphone can be PERMANENTLY BRICKED REMOTELY. That alone outweights any argument for me.
[Vibrant General] JBO1018:
How is this accomplished? Not looking to do it...I've just never heard that before.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Vibrant General] gamikzone:
sounds like how u can send signals and hack someones phones from a distance kinda like how those new credit cars that have that laser scan or paypass or whatever u call it those cards can easily be hacked too. who says new technology is always better than old :p
[Vibrant General] Go Gators1:
I've owned all four versions of iPhones and sold my iPhone 4 to switch to Android about 2 months ago. I jailbroke all my iPhones because I didn't like them at all when they were stock. Way to boring and restricted. I got sick and tired off Apple restricting the device that I paid for and demonizing anyone that wanted to jailbreak their own property.

I'm very happy that I switched to android. I already love it, but it is going to be amazing once I get my Galaxy S2 next month. Then I'll have the best OS to go along with the best hardware!

The biggest difference's I see between iOS and Android is iOS has the advantage when it comes to reliability like force closes and apps freezing, but Android dominate's in all other aspects like choice of device's, customization, open source and most importantly, not having to deal with Steve Jobs telling you how to use your device.
[Vibrant General] PJcastaldo:
Honestly its not that I don't "like" I-Phones.. but I really love my Android. Whats funny is people like to say that alot of Androids UI came from IOS.. To me that seems a joke.. Lets be honest people.. jail breaking and rooting aside, didn't the Iphone just get the ability to change the wall paper in IOS 4? Thats the kinds shat that get me. Widget are another little nook that IOS is missing.. I mean i had a Samsung like a year before the G1 came out that could do widgets..

Just because the UI its self is a bit more polished does in no way make it better. There are many things that just seems to be left out.. and then when they are added people act like its never been seen EVER.. its nuts.. as far as stability goes I have many friends with different model IPhones and they have had their fare share of crashes and system fails.. just sayin.. its not just Android that has fails in that area.. another thing to remember is the Market allows openness and that sometimes causes issues.

In my opinion Android got it right from the beginning and is getting better every release.. IOS is kinda getting stale..
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
Let me put my input into this:

I recently received an Iphone 4 (planning to give it to my brother). It was loaded with version 4.3.4 and the latest baseband, basically the latest public version of the OS and modem. However, when I tried jailbreaking it (by downloading it to the last untethered jailbreakable version) it was IMPOSSIBLE. There's no way in downgrade (i tried every method on google and apple blocked it all or not signing the security) or install a custom iOS thats prejailbroken.

ON TOP OF THAT, the last few basebands (modems) for the iphones are still uncracked. This means that you cannot unlock the phone using software. I had to purchase a sim-device called the "gevey sim" to hardware unlock the phone..

So, as of now, I am also keeping up with iPhone 4 news (hoping that an untethered jailbreak solution will appear). For my own amusement, I read the comments on this blog, regarding new features that are discovered in the newest beta of iOS5.

Here is what I gathered from reading the comments:

Hardcore iPhone users are delusional. They support the phone so much that they refuse to acknowledge the fact that the Android OS can and are able to do almost everything better. They refuse to even try an Android phone.

Casual/In the middle of the fence iphone users always threaten to go to Android if Apple doesn't step it up. They acknowledge the superior features that Android has and that iOS lacks. In the comments alone, I read about 3-4 users that were Iphone users that went to Android and are not looking back.

Here are quotes from two example users mentioned above, for you reference. (2nd quote is HILARIOUS)

source: http://iphone5release.org/ios-5-beta-3-adds-gestures-that-replace-hardware-buttons/

Hardcore Apple fanboys crack me up.

edit: Don't worry guys, I will make sure my brother doesn't get too attached to iOS :P