[Atrix 4G General] crashingout:
Hi Gent's, I have some holes in my Atrix knowledge, that with all the recent developments and new members/devs I'm sure would be helpful for all to discuss and clear up.

The problem is as follows.

How can I, and others, backup their Atrix in safe secure manner that allows us to take advantage of, and remain flexible, for both future updates, either XDA member created, or OTA(which could mess with things, for example blocking our bootloader unlock for those who OTA and haven't unlocked yet, thereby denying them further future flashing freed-up fun roms).

I know we need to backup and save the PDS partition if we want security in flashing the roms regarding touchscreen and device issues, but some things need to be spelled out. First things first, my understanding is a month ago we didn't have a fully functioning CWM, we had tenfar's CWM bootstrap, which was limited in function. I heard something about borked backup/recovery with it, so I played things safe, didn't touch it. Now a couple weeks ago tenfar put out a new version that supports the Atrix post-unlocked bootloader, which allows for greater functionality in CWM. What I need to figure out guys, is what's the protocol for backing up the PDS, making a safe backup of the ENTIRE phone, and then the safe way for wiping the cache's, (IDK which one's, I don't want to trash my touchscreen lower half like some people did?), followed by the currently established procedures for switching from rom to rom.

This is all compounded by the problem that either yesterday or today a new (bootstrap?) item was given Atrix compatibility by the almighty Koush, something called ROM Manager. Should I use this instead of CWM, or should I wait. I'm fine with TiBu for apps and data, but I need to be sure I have everything necessary to restore the phone if necessary because of a bootlooping new rom for example, because I've heard too many nightmare stories about people so far, granted some members have done some stupid stuff, but I think it would be helpful if some of the recent developments in Atrix Backup/Restore could be explained by someone omnipotent in this area.

I'm thinking the correct options are, get Tenfars latest CWM, which REQUIRES bootloader bashing, followed by a Nandroid(?) backup in CWM, then wipe data cache, and dalvik cache, and any other cache's?(IDK!) After the wiping, then install new rom zip from CWM as usual, correct?

The problem with the procedure above, is I think Tenfars latest CWM requires pudding, which presents me and probably others with the following dilemma. I'm assuming, because of Motorola's past history, that when the ATT GB update OTA's, they are going to try to f**k with our current implementation of pudding bootloader unlock, for those who aren't unlocked yet, just how they closed up root with every past update for example. These guys are security nuts, read a post of mine I made last month, they definitely read our forum, at least the Nvidia Tegra guys I've confirmed to. Now I may be wrong, and they may not able to implement this, but I don't want to confuse you guys, I know that those who are unlocked will stay unlocked, but what if they refuse you guys OTA GB official because they check for unlocked BL? That's why me, and I'm sure others haven't unlocked yet. I plan on waiting for the OTA to pop up, pressing install later for 3-4 days denying the update, and checking XDA feverishly to see if those who install the OTA can use CWM, root, Unlock bootloaders, etc. If they lock up the new official GB OTA, then I'll just hit install later one last time, unlock bootloader, and pop in one of the many roms raining down from the sky.

Also this isn't so much a question, as it's a discussion, because I feel like I can't be the only one with these information gaps. If someone can add to the collective knowledge, it will help all of us :)

/on an unrelated closing note, since it's raining roms, has anyone tried Cherryblur 1.1a, AND Quickrom V1 (7/18), AND Kpenn's GB Beta 4 AND Ninja V 0.4.2 Alpha, AND Dorains Redpill? I'm curious if anyone has been crazy enough or has had the chance to try all of the latest and greatest, I'm sure one of those is more stable than the others, they are all based off of a hodgepodge of unofficial development builds, ha, one's a French 2.3.4 even? Not mention we were goofing around with HKTW earlier, which is MT870 not even Olympus!!! That surely cannot run with much real stablity.... ;)