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[HTC EVO 3D] Xencer:
It just pisses me off how some devs act like they're gods, and if someone asks for an eta why can't you just say, oh it will be a couple of days or a week instead of wtfbbq you hurt my ego no etas are the cool thing now. Reminds me of teenagers, "gosh mom ill finish my chores when I finish them! "
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
Are we really gonna start this argument again? ship s=off doesn't mean the phone was shipped with security unlocked...
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Please, know what you're saying before you say it. Otherwise you just look uneducated on the subject.
[HTC EVO 3D] VoXHTC:
I'm not a dev.

I can say from experience that a million attempts at something with a million failures is frustrating.

If I were a dev, I would WANT to answer "I would like to have it ready tomorrow."

there is no way to know if I'm going to be able to figure it out by tomorrow is there? there is no way to know if my team is going to have a break through is there?

It's just pointless to give an ETA. It's not definitive like say, holding your breath. You have an idea when you'll run out of air right?
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
Reread my post... I said the picture of the 3D looks goofey like a bad PhotoShop. Could be a bad pic, could be a PhotoShop, but I need more proof than one bad photo, a poorly shot video and a yeah we got it but you can't have it yet. Until I get that proof, I say bs. Proof like an alpha release or someone in the media (major player like Android Central) playing with it and vouching it's real.

Again, I hope i am wrong and they are just playing it too close to their vest. Again, thank you to those trying to make this good phone great.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] :
uMad bro?!?!
[HTC EVO 3D] spenceizzle:
Want... That... Boot animation...

Anyway, great job on S-OFF. Can't wait for the 50 page thread of people trolling someone trying to get 3D working on AOSP. Gonna be some gems there. "Pics or didn't happen" "you can't post 3D pics on xda" "yes you can, just press alt f4, lolololol"
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Wow. So hearing it from the horses mouth (alpharev members and unrevoked members) is not enough for you? You still say it's bull? You say that they're lying, and they are not close to releasing a tool for the shooter/pyramid that will unlock all hboots? I am left speechless at the ignorance I witness on here.

And I don't know what looks photoshopped about that pic, but it doesn't look photoshopped to me at all. I say it looks as real as can be, and also, when myn chimed in and said "it's real", that was all the proof I needed.

EDIT: Here is a post made by ieftm, a recognized developer on the alpharevx team.

Originally Posted by NoModE

Or just to get cred?

They have it all sorted out and will soon releas it? What does soon mean in Holland?

If we had not had this info, maybe we would have had a ready solution from agrabren?

We've been working with agrabren, and although a talented developer, I don't believe he was nearing any solution. He does things differently.

Originally Posted by Atlantian

I agree. he should continue although I think he is upset with Alpharevx team.

Our differences are settled. We are grown ups, we can handle this stuff by ourselves, don't worry about it.

Originally Posted by ImWarped

I do wholeheartedly agree with the post about AlphaRev being too secretive... XDA was set up to get things moving as a community. For a laugh the other day, I popped into their IRC chat, posed the simple question of what it would take to get the Sensation S-off released, the response was "about 20 coders, and an unlimited supply of cola" certainly good for a laugh, but I guarantee that those 20 coders, are here, and ready to help, if they would help support our COMMUNITY.

What is your point, exactly? "Too secretive?" The video posted was not supposed to be public, and leaked. Apart from that, we very well decide for our damn selves what we want to expose or not in terms of information, tyvm.

Originally Posted by Thyrus

I really don't think this is for the general public. And I dont want to start a flame threat or anything.

Their approach to openness, sharing and community largely differs from mine. Let's leave it at that.

You're implying, however. Remind us: when was the last time you released an exploit?

--

That said, it would be nice for people to stop dreaming up their own conclusions and theories.

Yes, it's being developed for shooter/pyramid, perhaps more.

Yes, across a number of HBOOTs.

No, we are not trying to trump anyone.

No, it's not done.

Yes, it will be soon and available for general consumption.

No, it will not be the same as HTC's 'supposed' unlock, as bootloader unlocking != S-OFF, nor do we have *any* details whatsoever what HTC's unlock entails.

S-OFF is almost out of the question (because of the way it ties in with simlocking)
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
They are not Gods....as a former developer for business eta's are never meet..and frankly...what if they say x time period and they have unseen complications..and they don't deliver because they don't have it right, fixed,,,etc. They lose creds...this is not something that goes according to a exact plan.....what I am trying to say politely is that non developers do not realize what they are doing is very complicated and time consuming, tell me...have you ever known a pregnancy that was delivered on what date the doctors say..we could go on to other examples...you are correct they are not gods...they are the ones who does out great roms..kernels..themes...skins...modifications...rooting...bug fixes that companies don,t fix..recovery roms for backups and restore...and oh yea I forgot...also S-Off...in other words we wouldn't be here...they don't need us...we need them...period. If you want a eta...nobody is stopping you from doing it faster then them...make sure to tell us when you have it done....so we can come back to you and leave hundreds of messages 'where is it?'...I am not trying to flame....but non developers seem to think they are paid for this ****.....they are not..
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
Dude stfu, why does everyone here just automatically think there suppose to just release it as soon as THEY find the method. they will most likely release it because of the soo many complainers in here so everyone chill the **** out, damn.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
They should release a buggy version to that guy alone so his device bricks. Then he will learn why patience is key!
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
This +2
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
I vote for locking every thread s-off related. When they release it open them back up. This childish bull**** is rediculous. Nobody has paid them a penny. If you donated its a DONATION! Sit back and shut up or do it you damn self!

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] beyond882001:
Plus uno amigo
[HTC EVO 3D] BlaydeX15:
I've got it linked in the OP. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
+1....Do you have a eta.....:D. I agree.
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
You stfu! Was I *****ing? NO. I was stating an opinion. I said numerous time I hope they prove me wrong. Was i demanding an immediate release? NO! Have you or any of the other posts demeaning me helped any more?

I feel another "you mad bro?" coming on... this time i am.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
LOL.

But the thing is, no one cares about your opinion OK bro? Seriously. Now you sir can STFU. :)

BOOM.

Now lets see some positive posts for a change!
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
Good come back douche.
[HTC EVO 3D] lewis952:
you happy bro ? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
I don't know any of the Alpha devs... Are you one? So far, everything I've seen about Alpha's has looked 3rd hand or worse.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
LET IT GO.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
WhyUMad? It's only the interwebs. We can all haz "Print" soon. That is the s off you guys are talking about right? Change Sprint's name so we can print over the blue teeth?
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
Hey dummy do some reading BRO. Here is a tweet from agrabren... Oh and in case you don't know (which you probably don't) is a well respected teamwin dev (that was the dev team also trying to obtain S-OFF for your snotty ass).

Stop being an a-hole and please stop posting in this thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
You're kinda new around here, its ok. If you had been around for a little while or even paid attention while you've been here you would know that AlphaRev and unrEVOked are two solid teams of developers with integrity and who are highly respected because of their commitment to the community. Perhaps you have trust issues. With the contributions these two teams have made to the community thus far I have no reason to doubt what they are saying; thus the reason that everyone who knows about these guys is defending them and calling you an idiot, douche bag, etc. Now, if on the other hand they had a tendency to bull**** and lie I may be suspect of claims of S-OFF. But, like I said, these two teams deliver.
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
I don't use Twitter and hadn't seen that post. Thank you.

Now quit being a ahole acting like you own XDA and namecalling. This is supposed to be a community, not a war.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
You will change your mind after you flash a rom you want....these are the guys that let you...and the rest of the 3vo/sensation users..along with the desire/incredible users...plus other devices...the way to flash em....talk about crapping in a house that somebody let you use....Down the line...you will silently thank them...
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
Fair enough. I apologize for the name calling.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
SHUUUT UUUP <^>
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I excited for the 3D users. Hope everything gets worked out soon!
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
You are quite correct that I don't know Alpha but their reputation. My old phone wasn't supported by them and I hadn't seen anything other than speculation on this thread which causes me to doubt it. I don't doubt the team, I doubt this thread and people trying to get me to donate to pixiedust.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
Who asked you to donate?
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Me too...especially if it stops all of the bickering and noobishness. This place has become absolutely ridiculous lately and it just gets worse. At first this thread was the only positive force on this entire subforum, and that went downhill fast.

I'm going to donate to those that deserve it. I only wish I could un-donate to those who deserve that...I'd be a fncking millionaire.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Then don't start a war. Plain and simple. Should be easy right??
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
I wish they would release it bye invitation to exclude the cry babies , naysayers , doubters , complainers the I'm returning it if , and the samsung fanboy's

Saying that some of you are Worse than a bunch of little girls would be an insult to my nine year old
[HTC EVO 3D] ianoob:
Too many to quote. pages 4-15. I've seen too many bounty posts and this whole thread feels like one.

Sent from my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
I think that those of us who know and respect what goes on in this community of devs and flashaholics should remember very well what went on in these threads after the release. There are going to be a lot of very disrespectful members of xda asking for help because they're stuck at the splash or bootlooping or the famous "I forgot to nandroid". Well see then why things are tested and why we should be respectful and patient to those who do for us who can't.

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Good idea. I usually live in the Q&A section trying to help. Think I'll just make me a naughty or nice list. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I can't wait to utilize the multi-boot capabilities of eMMC. It will be so nice to be able to boot into Sense, CM7, MIUI, etc with just a push of a button instead of doing a nandroid restore. This is one thing that gets me most excited about ROM flashing on this phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] spenceizzle:
No. Its my root and I want it NOW.

Kidding, of course. I think the reason people are foaming at the mouth over this is the lack of transparency. Many people don't understand the delicate nature of the exploits the devs are working with, and a level of secrecy is required to deliver a valid root method that won't immediately be twarted by HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
+256452

It's gonna be so awesome
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Hadn't thought of that, thanks for turning on that lightbulb for me,Haha

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Here is a link to check out. Should be doable with the E3D as long as its using the newest CWM.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1100777
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
WOW, honestly I never heard if this. Can you post something if possible to back this up.

Edit: nevermind, you posted the same time I posted.

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
I forgot all about this. Yea this will be awesome

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
What you talking about Willis? Dude where have I been??? I had no idea that emmc had that capability. Out of curiosity would something have to be developed to.utilize that feature or is it like a partition thing? Either way that's pretty sweet! :)

Edit. I saw your second post. Thanks for the info!
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
...it's true. I have no link, merely another eMMC (NookColor) device that can (and has) multibooted.

EDIT: for instance http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=959461
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Exactly my friend, well said. If HTC realizes their mistake too soon then we could all be screwed. And if I remember correctly they are teaming up with the unrevoked team, one stop one click.... Lol. But seriously it isn't only the s-off that needs to be tested but also the recovery that's being written. I love this phone and if i have to wait 6 months than so be it. I know it will be worth it.

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] vgupman:
Oh hell yeah! That's awesome! Devs on this forum are so badass. Never thought I would look so highly at people that are geekier than I am. Interesting how the term geek has changed so much don't you think?
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
/me sho' am gonna miss Amon Ra though :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
Seriously, you are living up to your nickname. I gave you that SINGLE post to show you exactly where I got that quote... so you would not have to SEARCH for it. You want more? Find it. It's easy. Especially if you have FB or twitter (which I do not).

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15832936&postcount=247

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15802611&postcount=719

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15803555&postcount=722

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15803667&postcount=723

Shinzul is working on TwinPic a lot now... Yes, everyone knows TeamWin and AlphaRev were going at the problem from totally different angles. AR got there first. TW is still working on it a bit but they have other projects too. Damn. If TW knows that AR cracked that nut, why can't you?

Please stop screaming to be spoon-fed and acting like your nickname...
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
Yeah, I did see this originally for the tablets. Never knew it was coming to are pocket computers though. This is going to be an off the wall experience and its all in 3D.

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
Yeah me two, but Team Win has something up there sleeve to save are RSA Keys. ;)

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Thanks. I think that this is really gonna drive me to flashaholics anonymous!!!

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
The NC is a little limited so I just (happily) stick with CM7 on that...but one thing from the NC that I would love (and see no reason why it couldn't be implemented somehow) is boot from SD...I would happily carry an extra SDcard or two (could probably hide them in my case easily enough) just to be able to swap cards and boot up...with all the RAM we have in these beasts only the bootup/init would be laggy...
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigirish:
Mannn, that would make my flashing ADHD that much worse if I was able to carry around different cards for different roms! There's just SO much potential with this device that I don't mind waiting months for all of this to work properly (not that I won't jump on it the day it's released, mind you ;))
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
I read about dual booting back on my g2 but I thought the project died. Fantastic that its actually running, and running good. Im assuming you just boot into recoveries when you want to change roms. Would be awesome if the roms your dual booting shared the same data so you would have your messages, apps, etc on both roms.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Same here dude.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Guys I'm not saying any names and I also dont know entirely how true this is, but another developer that was working on S-OFF got It cracked. I don't know if said person stole ARX way of doing it but said person plans to beat them to it by releasing it tomorrow. "I Don't Know How True It Is" but if it pops up tomorrow you heard it from me first. Hope this method wasn't stolen from them but the way they been keeping under raps I don't think so.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
I's believes it !
[HTC EVO 3D] OutdoorOBW:
I hope your right.
[HTC EVO 3D] sdezrilov:
Very cool, thanks for the heads up.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
So do I
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Maybe someone should tell them it my of been leaked...
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Any info on a recovery?

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
No. I don't have any Intel on that. I just been digging really deep on the S-OFF.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
im gonna guess dragonfyre

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Thanks for the info.

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] J3STUR:
Thats cool about the muti-booting, never heard about the 3d being capable of that. Anyways wouldn't it be nice if that rumor was a different exploit, and then maybe that way it could help out the other teams to make this even better, or released sooner
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
Highly, highly doubt that this other developer has cracked s-off and will be releasing it tomorrow.. Of course I'd want it to be true, but just its kinda skeptical, especially since I haven't read about it from anywhere. Hope it is true, but I just have some doubts, not doubting you jaywan btw.
[HTC EVO 3D] bso44:
Man, I hope you're not messing with us. Or I hope your source isn't messing with us.
[HTC EVO 3D] dfskevinohyeah:
yeah I don't know what to believe! i really want to believe,it but then again ehhh. bets bets! anyone! 5 bucks says it won't be released! :) I kid I kid
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
I just past some info to Yall that was past to me.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
Just don't get your hope up guys
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I don't care if it's leaked or not.

If it has the power to mess with my bootloader or S-Status, it's not touching my phone until a trusted and respected developer confirms it.

I recommend any of you newcomers following this thread to please not run ANYTHING or attempt to do anything unless there's an official thread about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
+1 10chars

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] dfskevinohyeah:
yeah I'm not getting my hopes up neither like the guy above me said, a respectable developer should check it out before any of you nubs use it!
[HTC EVO 3D] evohog:
Unless a respected developer releases it.

DDD-EVO
[HTC EVO 3D] fisher1991:
But why flash a rom when you could not have the 3d capabilities I mean personally that's why I bought this phone because u had the sensation on tmobile and loved it I just wanted 3d more
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
I like the 3D, but it's not the main reason I bought the phone. I bought because of the upgraded screen, upgraded RAM, dual core processor, etc... The 3D is just an extra feature. The Sensation is slower and is on T-Mobile.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Huh? Who's to say that flashing a rom would disable the 3d? Maybe it'll take AOSP roms like CM7 a little while to get the 3d implemented (similar to how it took a while to get Wimax included in AOSP roms), but regular Sense roms would have 3d working fine. At least that's what I'd presume.

I would take AOSP with no 3d capabilities whatsoever. I bought the phone because of the hardware. The 3d is just a cool feature that I have. To be honest, I haven't watched anything in 3d in at least a couple weeks. I am just dying to see how AOSP runs on this thing. I'm expecting to be blown away, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Are you kidding me? I didn't get the phone for the 3D, I got it for the Dual Core processor, the RAM, the gorgeous qHD display, and the fact it's guaranteed to have mainstream and XDA support for quite some time. Just wait, soon, this forum will be overflowing with ROMs in the same way the OG EVO is overflowing with ROMs.

What I really want more than anything is to have a stock ROM that's INSANELY optimized. I have fallen in love over again with Sense, and having already used CM for a long time, I'm ready to just stick with this.
[HTC EVO 3D] fisher1991:
I had the sensation on tmobile and so far no real difference besides the camera on the sensation. Also the sensation was way faster data on this phone/company is slower then tmobile
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Cool story bro.
[HTC EVO 3D] hockeyfamily737:
You obviously don't live in CT....Around here, I could send a letter by carrier pigeon faster then I could send an email with T-Mobile.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Then who is going to test it for the rest of us? Someone has to see if it works lol
[HTC EVO 3D] vboyz103:
LOL, nice, my nephews said same thing to me too. At first I didn't know and later they explained, I was like WTF....
[HTC EVO 3D] ktulu909:
I'll test it. Been a crappy night
[HTC EVO 3D] el poblano:
Wasn't the word that teamwin was making a touchscreen enabled recovery? Something about a new UI I think.
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
Exactly, so screw amon. Out with the old, in with the revolutionary new.

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Is amon ra pretty much exactly like clockwork mod? I know there both recoveries, but what is different about them? Never used amon, only cwm

Sent from my 3rd Dimension of Evolution
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Yes, that someone will be a respected developer, one who most likely has a spare Shooter to test it on. I'm not running it until a developer has worked on it and used it for a decent amount of time.
[HTC EVO 3D] el poblano:
Don't get me wrong, I always did like amonra. But one guy can't be expected to support every device out there. That in mind, I'm glad we have such a high quality group of devs here on the 3vo!
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Personally, I like Clockwork better because the "wipe" is far more reliable (although this might have changed).

People like Amon Ra over Clockwork because Amon-Ra doesn't need edify scripts, it runs the older Amend scripts just fine (but I don't know if it does both).

On my Sprint Hero, I exclusively used Clockwork
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
you are the first and pretty sure the only person iv ever head say that about clockwork
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
on the evo, Clockwork had issues with it not fully wiping things the first time you wiped (but i think that got fixed in newer versions), where amend wiped just fine the first time. and clockwork only supported edify scripts.. while better then amend scripts, allot of devs had not moved over to them and people were having many issues flashing things on CW b/c of that.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Ah. I don't know, it's just what I heard back on the Hero forums while I was there.

Anyways, I grabbed this off the Android Police article about the ARX S-OFF. Don't know if it's been posted already or not, but it's no longer ambiguous of whether or not they managed to S-OFF the EVO 3D. When they're release it, who knows. But for now, look at this work of art :)

Image
[HTC EVO 3D] Jaywan:
You do know these a$$holes are gonna flame you right. This is all in the op.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
Them having recovery is news not the pic though , I'm glad to have read it
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
It's rumors like this that gives good developers bad names...come on man..