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[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
Ok I am finally home so here are the shots...

The first pic is on MikFroyo 4.62, which is a froyo (2.2) sense rom. With it being unplugged for those 2 hours, I HAD NOT TOUCHED THE PHONE AT ALL. Like literally just unplug and left it there. How is it normal that the display is using 72% of the battery if it has been off the entire time? The reason that the percentage is still at 99% is because SBC kernels kick ****ing ass and love to hold a 100% charge for a few hours normally. But the second I turned the screen on and started using the phone it would drop like a fly.

Second pic is on Synergy RC1 which is a gingerbread (2.3) sense rom. That is with very little usage. In 5 hours my battery is at 50%, that's absolutely ridiculous. One morning I was off the charger for 2 hours and my battery was already at 75% and I hadn't even used the phone at all!

The third pic is on Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo which is a froyo sense rom. That is what the battery stats SHOULD look like and what I used to get. That was not even trying to save the battery, I really used the phone that day and at 14 hours I had half the battery left. It was the same case with MikFroyo 4.62 before the display usage issue popped up. I could easily get 25-30 hours.

The last picture is on MikFroyo 4.62 again, but that was right before my battery was going to die and I plugged it in. 10 hours was the MOST I could get. It's the same case with Synergy currently, even with very little usage I can only get 10 hours. If I use the phone like it should be used, it's dead within 2 or 3 hours.

Now I don't have any screen caps of an AOSP rom, but the usage looks somewhat like it does in the pic with Warm TwoPointTwo. Display usage is usually somewhere in the middle. If for some reason it might be at the top, it's only slightly more than everything else. Not a 90% for display and then 5 or less for everything else. With Salvage-Mod I could get almost 25 hours from a charge, with CM 7.1 and EvoDeck it's a little less, say around 20 but that's still good to me.

So basically, this issue does not arise with AOSP roms (GB or froyo). It's only Sense roms, and seems to be a hit or miss as to which ones but it does it on froyo AND gingerbread sense roms. I haven't used them all, but I know for a fact it does it on MikFroyo, MikG, Synergy, and I know some other people have been saying Sacs-kingdom does it as well.

So there it is...I'm not bullshitting and this is not "normal" display usage. This is not a case of just using the phone a lot. If I use the phone a lot, android system will normally be around the top or cell standby. But not display, ever.

edit: let me add that I use the phone JUST as much when I'm on AOSP than when I am on a Sense rom. I still have the same usage patterns. I got a reply from aamikam, hopefully he takes the time to read my posts though
[EVO 4G General] Toney Starks:
thank you so much ncflast, people tell me "oh thats normal", "something has to total 100"

im like NOOOO ITS NOTTTT

WHY should display be the biggest consumer of power if its not even being used?

and when it does get used 2hrs at the most and the phone starts to get low on power

WTFFFF???

i feel so much better someone has the same issue as me

ive tried all the tricks and suggestion nothing still works
[EVO 4G General] Yay 4 Juggs:
i am having the same problem with a stock deodex gb 4.24.651.1 rom nv/pri 177 radio 2.15.00.05.02 kernel 2.6.35.10 #1 for those who having issue to compare info with your setup and mine...
[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
Glad to see more people with this issue...well not really but you know what I mean lol.

I switched back to CM for now, but my stats are

baseband: 2.15.00.05.02

kernel: 2.6.38.8-tiamat_evo-v4.0.5-sbc+cayniarb@linuxdesk #25

PRL: 60680

PRI: can't see it in CM but I'm pretty sure it's the latest 2.15 one or whatever
[EVO 4G General] Toney Starks:
i just might go back to aosp, today my battery has been very hot and died in 2hrs
[EVO 4G General] JMAC303:
Same exact problem here. Reading through this thread I started to get discouraged by some of the "oh that's normal" responses. It definitely doesn't seem normal and my battery life is not normal either. I really don't know what the problem might be, but I believe there is definitely a problem.

I have just about the exact same setup. (not sure what the nv/pri 177 radio is)

The screen on my Evo has been shattered since March. I'm tempted to finally get a replacement via insurance, but I'm afraid I won't be able to root it (new ROM, locked bootloader, etc...). Is that a valid fear?
[EVO 4G General] Yay 4 Juggs:
Very valid but I thought I saw temp root achieved somewhere on here today so its only a matter of time before perm root is established.
[EVO 4G General] taadow1030:
My 2 cents: I've noticed that there are many battery comparisons between gingerbread sense and aosp. Could the issue simply boil down to the fact that there are no custom kernels? Many of these kernels have undervolting tweaks built in and also work very well with setcpu.
[EVO 4G General] LordAlexx:
Typical scenario for me: Woke up this morning with the phone plugged in and at 100%. Unplugged and checked my "words" game. Got disgusted at the great words played against me.. left the game screen on but put the phone on one power push (screen off?) and set it down. Came back 2.5 hrs later woke it up and the battery was at 44%. Nothing about all the scenarios in this thread with ppl running custom roms is normal about the crappy battery life.
[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
I use custom kernels for every rom possible. With sense froyo, I used netarchy 4.3.4 SBC. With gingerbread aosp, I use tiamat 4.0.6. And of course there are no custom kernels yet for sense gingerbread
[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
I posted in the Synergy thread and didn't get much but here is one reply...have yet to try it (waiting for a new release of Synergy) but if anyone tries it let me know.
[EVO 4G General] Toney Starks:
might give this a shot
[EVO 4G General] skadoo323:
I ended up giving this a try of my dad's phone and this does seem to have make a difference. Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sjj1991:
I just followed this thread to root my TF: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1125714

Before rooting, I was on the latest firmware, with the update that was released a few days ago installed.

The problem is, now I cannot enter recovery mode to flash to a custom rom.

I am stuck at the bootscreen (with asus and nvidia logo) and my TF won't turn off. Holding the power button will make it reboot.

I copied recovery-3.1.0.1-solarnz-R3-240511-1908.zip to the root of my microsd card and also tried renaming the file to EP101_SDUPDATE.zip. It won't work either way, it just hangs at 'Booting recovery kernel image'.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sjj1991:
I just want to turn off my TF and go to sleep. Can someone help me?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] baseballfanz:
Maybe try nvflash again using Prime's ROM
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sjj1991:
Thanks, I fixed it by using nvflash.

For those who are facing the same problem as me:

1. Download nvflash http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1123429

2. Download prime_v1.5_nvflash.tar.bz2 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1052380

3. Unpack and copy the .img files into the nvflash folder

4. Enter APX mode and run download.sh (linux) or download.bat (windows)

5. ???

6. Profit
[Eee Pad Transformer General] abochman:
I just tried this, said it was successful, tried to reboot and now the transformer wont turn on at all. Tried all combinations of power + volume buttons for a while and nothing is working, not getting any response.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] deadman3000:
See unbricking guide.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosaka:
Hi

i wish to buy a WP7. but can any existing user from India please confirm if paid and free apps can be bought from marketplace .....

Its the only thing stopping me and my friends from buying this phone....please reply
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahesham22:
One of My friend has HD7 baught from abroad, It can't connect to market place. It says its not available in the region.

So NO you can't buy application from marketplace in india.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slum_dawg:
Well I can confirm that, the marketplace works. However I have not bought a paid app as yet. But have downloaded a ton of free apps from the Marketplace.

I have an unlocked ATT Samsung Focus BTW..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ap3604:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...use-4g-available-for-50-at-target-july-17-23/

I figured I'd give you guys the heads up ;)

P.S. $50 price is for new contracts AND upgrades

(unlike Amazon that charges more for upgrades vs new lines)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
This is no deal!

you will charge taxes on this.

on amazon, no taxes!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradbusa:
Target sells phones?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] matermine:
Unless taxes equate to > $40, Target is still the better deal.

That or you're a rebel and refuse to pay taxes...

And damn, I just bought mine a week or so ago from Best Buy...could have saved $100.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ap3604:
How is this not a deal?

Even if Amazon doesn't charge tax they are currently selling the Infuse for $125 for brand new Att customers (which is more expensive than this deal)...

PLUS you get Targets 90-day return policy right?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tishoo:
Indeed!

Amazon's Upgrade/New Line price was 89 last week, and then they upped it.

I wonder whether someone local (AT&T Corporate store or Best Buy) would price match the Target price, so I can take care of my convoluted account merge/split at the same time, AND get this great price.

Now I only have to decide whether to pull the trigger or await the Samsung SGS2 (AT&T Attain) (assuming it EVER shows up!)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Optimus-Prime:
IMMA GO ALL NERD ON YOU ALL!

$50.00X0.08=$4.00+$50.00=$54.00...

so you would be paying anywhere from 54 to 60 bucks at the most... :D
[Samsung Infuse 4G] b3asty:
This also applies to upgrades.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] b3asty:
lol :D:p:)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Optimus-Prime:
Cachaaaaoooowww :P lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] sobeast101:
They usually charge taxes on the Non-Contract price of the phone, so you still pay abouy $40 in taxes, but still not a bad deal
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradbusa:
what if i want a car charger? or one of those cases with all the pretty jewels on it?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Eddie Bombay:
Gonna grab this phone for my mother and swap out my atrix with it. I wonder if the att store will do a price match.

Sent from my MB860
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ap3604:
If you buy it through Target they don't have an option to keep your unlimited data. Is there anyway you can order online and then when you get the phone in the mail call ATT customer service to make sure they keep your unlimited while activating it for the first time?

Has anyone already done this w/ when ordering through Amazon? (since they don't give you the option to keep unlimited either...)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Eddie Bombay:
Good question ugh never thought i'd say this but glad I don't have a unlimited data plan lol

Sent from my MB860
[Samsung Infuse 4G] docodine:


You can go back to BB and get refunded the difference within 30 days, and they won't take any of those activation fees into account. I did this and got back $50 from BB when Costco had it for $50 off.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Optimus-Prime:
well then add the price to that. multiply it buy 0.08 then add your initial balance. then your done you get your final price give or take 10 to 20 cents..

its idiot proof really...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradbusa:
i think tax here in naples is 6% lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Optimus-Prime:
point being... you wont pay over 65 bucks for the phone alone...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Jimmy_Ponce:
Hey guys, I got 2 of these. I live in FL, I ended up paying 105 for both in upgrade.

I rooted mine and left the wifey's stock. Its a beautiful beast. And it has $25.00 from the samsung store. Im downloading the dark knight and matrix. Well worth it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] vwauditech:
What do you mean it has $25 credit? Is that something from Target or something included with the device? Thanks, Kevin
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
He's referring to the 25 buck media hub credit that came with our phones. Well mine did anyway. I got my Infuse from the ATT store.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] coopas:
I could complain about paying $150, but I desperately needed a new phone and got some goodies, and a lot happens in 2 months with technology in the phone world, so meh.

Seems like a good deal though, really love the phone.

Only thing I'm reading is that Ice Cream Sandwich probably won't be supported by the hardware in the Infuse 4G (dual core required), but we should all reach the end of two year contracts as its marketshare starts to pick up, so I'm not concerned about being left in the dust in that regard.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] lionheartck:
If you bought your phone at at&t in the last 30 days, don't return it, just bring in something showing the sale. The manager should take care of you to save the sale.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Khan99:
Just got a price match at Sam's Club, saved $82! I was thinking about returning in 30 days if the SGS2 was out by then, but at $49, I don't think I can beat that value and this phone is awesome!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] toshik1:
Nop no price match from ATT store :-(
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Badger827:
I bought 2 at an AT&T store on July 3rd for $129. They price match Walmart at the time. I called the manager of the store today and convinced him to match the $49 price. He credited my account $160. I guess it depends what store you go to.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] drowningchild:
just got 100 back from best buy :D

target is sold out everywhere around here of this phone
[Samsung Infuse 4G] TechGoon954:
Sold out

I sent my ex to Target to pick up one and the sales rep told her that each store only got a couple of them. Told her to try back Friday. I'm in South Fl
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Longcat14:
So, my usual store said no, and I was convinced otherwise.

I called Customer Service (to have Activation fee's waived because we were told they would do that, and they did) and I asked about the price match, and the rep told me that it just depends on the store manager, and he said if I try a different store, they'll most likely match it.

So if your store said no, try a different one. :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MisterEdF:
For those who got the match are they requiring you to take the 900 minute plan as Target is doing? I tried upgrading through Target online (I am eligible) and the only option is 900 minutes or unlimited. I barely use 100 per month and currently am on the 450 plan.

Also, if you bought through Target, their fine print says you must keep that specific phone (the Infuse) on that specific line for 6 months meaning if you want to swap out another phone they can charge you back for the phone. No idea why they care but that's what it says.

From Target terms: Discount will be invalid if the rate plan is changed to a lower monthly service rate, or if this equipment is transferred to another line of service.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Phillyfan1290:
The reason why they are doing this is cause ATT will not pay the for the upgrade or act if something happens for the first 6 months, such as a feature changes on month 5, target will have to pay back the money they made for the feature. The 900 and unlimited plans also pay a considerable amount more then the 450 plan so that's why places like target and wirefly do the fine print. But it's impossible for them to charge your bill with out your permission so your fine go on unl and call customer service and have it dropped back down to 450. customer service should also price match if your within 30 days if not ask for a manager.

source: I work for ATT
[Samsung Infuse 4G] matermine:
Ugh. Nevermind..looks like Best Buy screwed me over with a "bundle" deal. The bundle included 3 items and Geek Squad black tie protection for $25...they didn't actually have a bundle, so they charged me $69.99 for the phone and full price for each item in the bundle. I ended up paying 167.77 for the phone, car charger, case, Black Tie protection, 3 invisible shields (just the rectangles, not fitted), and Best Buys 2-year buy back policy.

I guess I'll have to go talk to the person who sold me this "bundle"
[Samsung Infuse 4G] menzoom:
However

It appears from the ads I read that one must get a new contract (not upgrade current contract, must get NEW activation) and the new contract usually means a tethering plan for $45 or $60 a month to get 4gb of data and don't go over cause you will pay extra. Not to mention the talk time plans, not sure if there are restrictions on those. Now it says $15 a month data plan or higher in the ad, but any plan under $45 is useless for anyone who uses the phone to it's potential.

:p

I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan for $30 a month so if I were to get the $50 phone it will cost $360 to $720 extra at the end of the two year contract, beware if you've been an AT&T customer for a while, the $150 you might think you're gonna save will end up costing you $60 or $420 more in the long run than if you just upgrade the phone at an AT&T store and keep your grandfathered unlimited data plan. And if you change your data plan in any way for the new phone you will not be able to go back to the unlimited plan, even if you return the phone (I know cause I asked about that before I bought the phone when it came out.)

:rolleyes:

Now some of you are talking about price matching, if you can get an upgrade with a price match and not have to change a $30 unlimited plan that you've had for ten years then great! You win. Don't hesitate and GET IT! Just make sure you check all the fine print and do the math for the full two years cost of phone + data plans + talk time + text plans compared to what ever you are currently paying.

:eek:

The main reason that $600+ technology becomes available for under $200 is the purchase of the data plans, these plans are usually pricey and make up the difference in profit and then some. Why do you think the data plans keep changing? That's where the real profit is in cell phone sales: Provider Contracts.

:cool:

Of course, if you use the phone the way it's designed and for all it's connectivity features, web access, email, MMS, etc then you don't mind paying competitive prices for data. Personally I have been enjoying the $30 unlimited plan and feel like I'm getting a bargain.

:D

If you are not grandfathered in, like I am, then go for it. First time buyers of a smart phone or AT&T data plan will have to choose the plan that's right for them no matter what phone they buy, so go ahead and get the $50 price, it's a great phone either way and I'm not upset at the low price being offered at Target because I'm still paying less in the long run even with the $199 I paid at AT&T.

:)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] AiyoX:
Do you guys think costco would price match?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jdsatyr:
I upgraded one of my lines thru ATT last week (got a price match for 149.00 from best buy) did not have to give up my unlimited data plan. I am going back to ATT in a few days and attempt to get them to match the target price and upgrade an additional line at the 50.00 (hopefully with price match) otherwise will go to target. The ad I have does infact allow for upgrading and new lines. so am going to use the leverage of upgrading the additional line to get the match on both phones.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MisterEdF:
Correct, can't don't charge your bill but they can charge the credit card you gave them to buy the phone which you agree to when you sign THEIR (not AT&Ts) agreement. That is what Amazon does if you cancel your contract you opened with them before 6 months. You pay the carrier's ETF and the Amazon ETF.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
Target has a 15 day return policy on all electronics...and they must be unopened. Hell they went to a 30 day years ago. They were one of the first to tighten up.

For those that asked...best buy had no issues price matching for me.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Numan2:
I got my infuse at bestbuy just shy of 30 days ago......looks like I'm gonna have to go back tonight and claim my $51 price match refund!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] matermine:
They ended up price matching for $20 (69.99-49.99) and I was able to sell back 2 accessories and the buy back policy for another $60...Should've been able to get $100 and keep the accessories, but whatever.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crispy1805:
I just went to at&t and they did not price match me (I got ny infuse saturday). I also had to give up my $10 unlimited plan :-/
[Samsung Infuse 4G] matermine:
Try another AT&T store. Call them, better than driving. Make sure to ask for the manager though. Threaten to return it and buy it from Target.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] toshik1:
Target is sold out on those as of yesterday...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MisterEdF:
Target has 90 days on iPads and other tablets so it all isn't 15 days. While I haven't personally returned any electronics to Target I know of 2 people who have well beyond the 15 days. Both were iPads as well as a 2nd tablet they tried. Phones may be different because the Mobile dept isn't run by Target.

Edit: Looking on Target,com returns policy both for online and instore purchases there is no mention of anything other than 90 days and no mention of unopened. However it does say a 15% restocking fee MAY be applied for some items including "mobile electronics" however if you use an Amex card to purchase that 15% can be refunded to you by Amex through their free return protection programs on many of their cards.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] raecer27:
I went to AT&T store today, place was packed with customers, talked to a sales rep told him about the Target 49 dollar deal, he went to the back talked to the manager and they credited my account the $100.00.

They would not give me a refund to my credit card but they did credit the account. All was done pretty low key as to not let others in the store know.

The rep had asked if I had proof of the Target deal, I told him it was all over the internet and being advertized. (They apparently knew about it and seemed prepared for the customers that might come in and ask for the adjustment.)

I'm in Miami, Fl.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Eddie Bombay:
I had to go to three different targets to get the phone the sales representative said they only got like two phones in and most locations were sold out and they couldn't do rain checks for the price.

Also like someone mentioned you get 25 dollars of media hub credit so you could rent quite a bit of movies which sealed the deal with me.

Only issue now is finding a sec looking case for this phone.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997
[Samsung Infuse 4G] abr27440:
Just went back to Best Buy on day number 30 and got 2 x 49.99 back with no hassle. Thanks for the tip guys!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] HiddenSanctum:
Went to Target and got the ad myself and brought it to Best Buy, they refunded me $100. Very happy with my phone right now :D
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Carlrobling:
Target here was sold out too. Bestbuy price matched me today. Went in with the ad pulled up on my inspire. The sales person checked online on his station and price matched no questions asked. For the savings I then bought the black tie protection. $10 a month for a replacement for any damage no deductible i couldn't argue with that.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] twelveone:
I just got back from Best Buy and was able to get $110 back. I bought my Infuse for $149.99 on July 1st. I got $100 plus the $10 tax back. It was painless. I just showed them the Target ad and was in and out in less than five minutes.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tsuprajoker:
I bought the Samsung Infuse 4G from Wal-Mart for like $150 like on June 16th, Woke up and saw Android Alert with the $50 at Target, and I was like FTW??? So I went to Wal-Mart and told them that the Infuse was $50 at Target, and their like FTW? And so they Had to get the Target weekly ad, stare at it for like 3 minutes and then give me back my $100. Wal-Mart Ad Match Guarantee. :D