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[General Questions and Answers] Mioze7Ae:
The bootloader is a second-tier problem with this phone. Motorola shipped it with buggy software and refused to provide any support whatsoever. And strung me along for months. And has wasted untold hours of my life. The locked bootloader only compounds the problem. Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. Motorola is dead to me and I'll be damned if any of my money goes to Sanjay. Even Google can't save Motorola. So it shall be written, so it shall be done. I do not forgive and I do not forget. Motorola is my white whale.
[General Questions and Answers] sohrab.naushad:
+1, that just made my day :)

EDIT: What ROM are you running nowadays Mioze7Ae?
[General Questions and Answers] pajo985:
no :D

I will wait for something new, even from motorola... :)
[General Questions and Answers] fjfalcon:
HTC pays royallity to microsoft..

So NO to HTC.
[General Questions and Answers] syrenz:
Well that's a fault of Microsoft's greediness, not HTC.

But that reminds me how funny that article about how Microsoft had made more money from its royalties from HTC androids than from all their WP7 phones combined was :p
[General Questions and Answers] :
But it's HTC's fault for actually paying. They could've said no and tried to find another way. But instead, they chose for paying to them. So it's both them who made a fault.
[General Questions and Answers] :
The Xoom SD-card slot is working now with the 3.1-upgrade. Plus you can flash any ROM because the bootloader of the Xoom is open.
[General Questions and Answers] vari9:
The sd card doesn't work with official 3.1......3.2 promises sd card functionality for the xoom.....my friends have that tab....so I can confirm.....anyways iconia a500 is much much better...
[General Questions and Answers] syrenz:
I can't imagine why HTC would want to pay royalties to Microsoft.
[General Questions and Answers] 3rdstring:
I guess they figured it would be cheaper to pay Microsoft than to pay their lawyers to fight it.
[General Questions and Answers] eSu.Matix:
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_xtreme-3092.php

Poor Mioze :/

Edit:

I actually bought my XT few months ago and I love it. But there are some issues that can opt me for a new phone:

1. The battery - 3-4 hours of video playback and it's down. You charge it at the morning and with maderate usage it's down by next morning. What??? :confused:

2. The RAM - Come on, what can I do with tottal of 50-60 free RAM? :confused:

3. The Processor - Processor is greate and it overclocks excellent but when I actually USE my phone, it's like holding a hot-plate in my hands (41°C-45°C). What?? :confused:

4. I don't care about getting Android 2.7+++ version, but I want/need Froyo, because I'm useing alot of apps requiering Froyo or above. So I want an OFFICIAL AND STABLE ROM. When Moto, when??? :confused:

5. Display - This is not so important for me, but have you ever compared XT display with some crap phones like Vivaz or even some LG craps (if I may even call LG a phone)? It's like they are colored and I'm with black and white phone... :confused:

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ Motorola ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

My next phone will be (if I must chose it now, but I think I will stay with my XT for like another 4-5 months):

Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc - Most likely. Awesome phone!

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-3619.php

Samsung Galaxy S II - I don't like how it looks. Quite faggy for me but it has awesome performance.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-3621.php
[General Questions and Answers] syrenz:
Don't all androids have battery issues?

Yeah, definitely my biggest complaint about this phone.

Also have had it feeling pretty hot at times here.

I don't think they'll unlock the bootloader of this one but they are clearly unlocking some of theirs. I'm really hoping our devs can learn some useful info from the unlock of others and give us unlocked bootloader as well. Once that happens - heaven... :D

Now this is a complaint I definitely do not have. I've been thoroughly impressed by this display in terms of colors, brightness and viewing angles (I always have brightness at max). Really really love this display.

I was reading a review from PhoneArena the other day and they say (at the time) that it's the best display they've seen on a Android to date, trumping even the Galaxy S...

Really no complaints about the display here.
[General Questions and Answers] :
I can tell you that the SD-card does work with the 3.1-upgrade. I mean the European 3.1, not the US one. Motorola used a fix for the 3.1 in Europe to enable the SD-card. In the US-version, the SD-card works after the 3.2-upgrade that is rolling in now and will be rolling out in Europe over the next few days.
[General Questions and Answers] eejin2:
its weird our display takes up the most power even when set at lowest brightness under the battery use. most other phones battery is most used by the radio thingy.
[General Questions and Answers] dt0:
Definitely an unlocked bootloader.

Probably a nexus phone to receive the upgrades right.
[General Questions and Answers] roath78:
I bought a Nexus S & gave the XT720 to my girlfriend. I will never buy a Motorola product again.
[General Questions and Answers] karlxx:
Really don't mind the xt720.

It looks great, hardly anyone I know has it (possibly for good reason).

Camera is superb for a phone...

My next phone will probably be the cheapest handset available (android and non-android alike).
[General Questions and Answers] Cesantony:
Well i like XT720 a lot and i like change ROM every week or 2 weeks (jeje) but sometimes, when i need it so much it fails and that it's so anoying... now i change it for a Samsung Galaxy S II since 2 days ago, it's excelent and expensive too jeje.

Saludos
[General Questions and Answers] spectacle:
That's bad to your girlfriend haha. Joking.
[General Questions and Answers] syrenz:
Really the main thing for me if I get an Android next will probably be market size for that phone. If there a lot of users behind a phone there is a lot of development and also pressure on manufacturers.
[General Questions and Answers] JiroPrinz8:
Agree, reason why i'm looking at either Samsung or HTC, although still quite unsure, not really a dev myself, so i'm relying on people who knows a lot more than i do to do the developing and for me to do the thanking and donating LOL..

SGS II or Sensation or if i can wiat much longer the rumored LG Optimus (Nexus) PRIME
[General Questions and Answers] jackfrost3821:
I'm looking forward to get HTC EVO 3D (impossible though LOL). Phone has great specs and I'm a great fan of HTC Sense UI.

Don'y know why did I buy XT720 when I had a option to buy either HTC Desire (AMOLED version) or Samsung Galaxy S. Both phones have massive development support and are still recognized as perfect droid phones.

Not repenting for buying XT720, Moto hardware is pretty solid but software support sucks badly.
[General Questions and Answers] xaser66:
Well, I was checking in late days about this, and I was almost on deal to buy an HTC Desire Z since had the qwerty that I miss, and other specs that I like, But see many reports talking about that with some months the Z mechanism of the toggle loose more and more, so I prefer to pass.

After doing a recheck at gsmarena phone finder seems that I would like to wait for SE Xperia Pro that seems that packs everything that I like, would wait to the see the knock off of the price... :-P

Best regards!
[General Questions and Answers] OriginalLucy:
Probably not a necessary comment to talk about a phone. :rolleyes:

But, back on topic, my next phone will probably be a Nokia/WP device. Love the Nokia N8 and would love to see a solid handset running other software.
[General Questions and Answers] eSu.Matix:
First I apologize myself, but that's exaclly what I think.

And second, I don't see how I will pay 450€ for a phone with 680mhz processor, 256 RAM, 640x480 display and camera with video recording worse than XT720. Not to mention the GPU... Nokia is sooooo.. dead as a company!
[General Questions and Answers] syrenz:
Nokia's current crop of phones? Yes, not really interested in (though the N8's camera is supposed to be the best phone camera of all time).

Nokia's future phones imbued with WP7? I can definitely see myself considering one for purchase next time I'm buying a phone. Nokia's hardware quality has always been considered top-notch and their prototype device looks nice. By the time they come out they won't have the same specs as the N8 obviously. You can expect specs to be competitive with other high-end phones available today.
[General Questions and Answers] Juls317:
Probably the SGSII
[General Questions and Answers] eSu.Matix:
Go check N8 and iPhone or Xperia Arc cameras video quality on YouTube...
[General Questions and Answers] benzer12:
At the moment I am still happy with my XT, even w/o update.

Still runnimng the stoch rom, with Launcher pro and 1000 MHz OC.

And still fascinated of the good haptic feeling, the housing quality and of course the camera.

At the moment I can't find anything comparable on the phone market.

And just faster cpu or software gives me no benefit.

Yesterday I took a closer lock at the new SE Xperia Neo. Nice phone even with good camera test results. But I think the hardware is not that good.

After owing the XT my expecations get higher. :-(

Here's a suggest to Motorola for a new phone development:

Take a dual core processor, Android 2.3, 1.900 mAh battery, and put it in the current XT housing. (open bootloader would be fine).

I would buy one!!! Maybe two ;-)

CU benzer12
[General Questions and Answers] fjfalcon:
Atrix(Optimus)? =)
[General Questions and Answers] varem:
Prolly an Atrix

Fasty Captivate
[General Questions and Answers] benzer12:
Atrix and Optimus are not what I am looking for.

Just to much plastic.

Only 5MP camera on the Atrix, both without xenon flash.

So I will keep on waiting.
[General Questions and Answers] mint-an:
hmm

no wp7

no ios

android - yes.

if xt720 get bootloader unlock and android 2.3.4

then no new phone otherwise an galaxy s with cm7
[General Questions and Answers] pajo985:
Yup, once you experience xenon on mobile, you will never buy cameraphone with leds

I have sooo much pics from total darkness, and they look like were shot in daylight.

Just to compare - i have milestone 2 which is in darkness uselles with its dual led flash
[General Questions and Answers] spiderx_mm:
Since they didn't offer a $200 discount (only give me $150), I just checked-out the Atrix last week. Got a very good offer of $0 down payment with the HD Superdock.

That phone is really a powerhouse. very impressive and the fingerprint scanner is the plus, yet the camera can't pass XT720's 8.0 MP camera. (ya, XT's camera is still best).
[General Questions and Answers] firzen_net:
For a while I've been dreaming about the Atrix, and now its the bionic (since its new specs sound impressive).

But recently when I got into ROMing the phone, I've started to like it more and more. I used to think of upgrading from this phone next summer, but now I'm thinking of waiting even longer. This phone's uniqueness sorta keeps me grounded to the phone.

what can i say, The flash and the build of the phone is great.
[General Questions and Answers] sohrab.naushad:
I agree, lol before this I used a typical nokia phone. On my online search the images of this phone just hit me. It looked like an alien device beamed down from a space ship. The three sensors in the upper left corner look like an alien tattoo or brail of some kind. Haha have to admit, despite its limitations, its still a damn sexy thing.

EDIT: Im also going to wait for technology to advance enough that the jump made when I get a new phone feels the same as when I shifted from my nokia 6500 to this android device :). Which should hopefully be a year or two.
[General Questions and Answers] DarkMD:
My next device probably will be the Samsung Nexus S, it is too beatifull
[General Questions and Answers] :
I already have a SGSII but am looking at buying the Xiaomi M1. Need to find someone in China willing to buy it for me.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/
[General Questions and Answers] newbkilla:
If I can somehow muster enough money; Nexus Prime, because it will no doubt cost both of my arms and half my torso.
[General Questions and Answers] firzen_net:
just read through the link. that phone looks scary, good and bad. good thats on so much steriods, but bad because we never know the how bad the side effects of steroids can be. it is such a beast though.

steroids being the risks and empty promises that mite be discovered after being released.

We can only assume that the reason why other national companies like moto samsung and htc have not beefed up their specs on superphones for:

1.market selling progression of upgrading specs slowly to increase sales, milking.

2.risks and dangers that mite come along?
[General Questions and Answers] IronMit:
My xt720 is dead. Somewhat annoyed cos of the recent improvements to the custom roms the devs have made but also secretly happy because now i have an excuse to buy a phone that isn't as frustrating.

i will not touch a motorola again unless they have a key feature that i value that no other phone has .... xenon flash! I'm not paying a premuim for stupid first gen atrix integration for a docking station. The last time motorola tried to test the market with something was with our XT720, they weren't happy so stopped supporting it. If there are any google benefits we will see them in a year, unless they unlock the bootloader or somthing..whatever that means.

Im in Uk and i can buy the galaxy s2 right now. £30 a month

top benchmark scores

top reviews

improved amoled bigger screen

Gorilla glass

battery life is good for a performance android.

The camera is decent aswell...although crappy led.

1080p recording...which means to me that it can do 720p flawlessly

Saw a review on youtube and the guy was on a webpage running an embedded flash video (assuming he had other programmes running /paused in the background) anddd he was minimising and zooming into the webpage and the flash video was still running in real time..no pausing, no rendering lag no nothing.

Heard nexus prime is going to be released in october.

rumours:

1.5 dual core

4.5inch screen

super amoled HD (but pentile) display

on ice cream

But if galaxy s2 is good enough and big enough to run tablet style is the nexus prime really worth it

Iphone 5 anybody??, i try not to be a fan boy and keep my options open. I hate apple. But that screen res, the constant speed, battery life.. the new camera tech they are integrating into the iphone 4s/5. I might jump ship. Will do some research first though, if i can download my own pdf's aand comics on pc and read them on iphone without void warranty lol. The growth of android and windows phone 7 hardware maybe enough to convince them to ramp up the iphone big time.

im holding off deciding until the unveiling of iphone 5 and nexus prime.
[General Questions and Answers] KayxGee1:
I'm going to trade my XT720 for a boot looped MT4G tomorrow.

I'm going to flash the stock rom, root, s-off and sim unlock and then I'm set (:
[General Questions and Answers] LibertyMonger:
Just got a New Huawei Ascend x 4g

Wow here I have been excited about having 50mb of free RAM, This Huawei Ascend has about 225mb of free RAM Lmao. I think I am gonna stick with my XT and let my mom use the Ascend I think the size and shape and ruggedness suits me more for what I do. I will still get to play with hers and trade her occasionally just for fun.
[General Questions and Answers] eejin2:
might wanna get a htc radar or some wp7 phone. or maybe an iphone. i love android but i'll always feel tempted to do all those customizing things which take up a lot of my time. havent tried wp7 out fully, just playing around whenever i walk past a mobile phone shop. the graphical ui looks nice to me too cos i like it plain.
[General Questions and Answers] ashish7350:
Most Probably iphone 5...............But XT720 will remain my favourite as it is my first android phone.............................
[General Questions and Answers] LibertyMonger:
Most def takes up a lot of peoples time, they are designed that way, that's why they are open-source lol. Google has said they are gonna be taking over peoples lives and they aren't jokin!
[General Questions and Answers] Mioze7Ae:
God. I don't know if I could like a Nexus anymore. Too easy. This is addictive.
[General Questions and Answers] Woody:
I have been perusing the Nexus One forums and as archaic as it was back when CBW was offering for the low, low price of $500 bigs ones, it is still a quality phone. Now they are relatively cheap on ebay and craigslist and the rumor through their forums is that it will get ICS b/c technically it is still a Google dev phone. Plus I like that it has an SD slot unlike some of the others that have all external storage on the internal and can't be expanded.

My first love will always be my XT though (plus I still have a little over a year on contract). The XT is a quality phone and I am glad that I chose it as my first Android instead of the Iphone4 that was hot at the time. Plus I got to and am still learning tons and making some good connections in here too.
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
no need for a new phone

you should try the latest CM6 port for our phones by Mio

it's fantastic!!!

it's like a brand new 1Ghz phone even when running stock 720 Mhz

everything is fast
[General Questions and Answers] Juls317:
I can't decide between the HTC Ruby or the Samsung Hercules, any suggestions?
[General Questions and Answers] sohrab.naushad:
I have and its awesome! But I moved back to stock 2.1 with androidiani hacks, cuz I got a lil tired of flashing constantly plus needed to get serious with some work. I found on CB sbf I get 3 days of battery life with 2-3 hours of calls, a few texts, wifi and data used only when needed otherwise off and maybe a few mintues of angry birds.

Still read the forum everyday though :) Hoping for 2.3 soon with the sensors fixed.
[General Questions and Answers] tharan.a:
For me, I'm leaning towards the WP7 Nokias. Windows Phone 7 is simply beautiful and Nokia has always had amazing build quality.
[General Questions and Answers] JiroPrinz8:
I agree, WP7 will be great in a year's time, i actually had a Mozart before android, so i know it is beautiful, sooner or later I'll be tired of all the customization android offers, when that time comes I'm sure to get a WP7 device, no IOS for me.. LOL
[General Questions and Answers] eejin2:
I think if mz is going to make us cm7 it wont be a port, just built from source code lol. I think..
[General Questions and Answers] spectacle:
Any comments on the atrix?
[General Questions and Answers] archer88:
i will get samsung galaxy s2 :)
[General Questions and Answers] eSu.Matix:
Yesterday a friend of mine lend me Xperia Neo. And.... I Love it. Price is awesome - 130 euro in Bulgaria if you resigned your contract for one extra year. I always looked forward to Arc, but actually I like Neo better.
[General Questions and Answers] tharan.a:
Well, the bootloader has been unlocked and it has been upgraded to GB. I suppose, if you could get it for a great price then it'd be nice.
[General Questions and Answers] athlon866:
Since MOTO got purchased by GOOGLE, I might stick with it. If not, I'll get a dual core CPU from Nvidia.
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
no many good phone choices that sports the nVidia Tegra CPU

all the good phones uses Samsung's CPU
[General Questions and Answers] syrenz:
Really want a SE phone... beautiful pieces. The new HTC stuff are sounding really good, as is the nexus prime/galaxy nexus w/e.
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
you do know most of those phones will not work on AWS (1700/2100) right?

the next best choices if you want to upgrade are:

sorted by release date:

Samsung Nexus S

LG 2X

HTC Sensation

Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989 (Hercules)

Samsung Nexus 3 (Prime) next year late 2012
[General Questions and Answers] Woody:
That is interesting. I know that different carriers have use different frequencies. Example would be a T-mobile Nexus One will only get 2g if you put an ATT sim card in it. But an ATT Nexus One will get 3g with ATT or T-mobile card.

I did some googlage and found this for CBW

http://community.cincinnatibell.com...-Cincinnati-Bell-Wireless-on-2G-GSM/td-p/3843

Reads kind of strange though b/c one post says it runs 2g on 4 frequencies and then another post says it runs on AWS like T-Mobile. I always thought CBW's mothership was Bell/ATT. Whenever I am out of state, my phone always reverts to ATT frequency (says it right on the screen-ATT).
[General Questions and Answers] tharan.a:
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_milestone_xt720-3375.php

Phones have the ability to run on two different networks, however in the case of AWS handsets they can only get 3G when the network connected to runs on AWS (1700/2100). If there is no longer an AWS network to connect to, the phone will revert back to 2G(850/900/1800/1900).
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
on top of that....

depending on your cell phone service provider, you might get charged roaming when you are not on AWS

I know T-mobile can roam for free on AT&T

i do not know how it is for Cincinati Bell

but for Windmobile, we get charged extra when we roam on Rogers/AT&T network

we only get unlimited free service when we are on AWS

it's probably the same for Mobilitycity and Videotron

detail list of all known service providers that runs on AWS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Wireless_Services

all those providers native network for talk & data runs on AWS 1700+2100

anything else is just roaming
[General Questions and Answers] tharan.a:
Roaming for FREE?! Is that enforced by the FCC or does T-Mobile absorb the cost of roaming for their customers?
[General Questions and Answers] LibertyMonger:
CBW is free Roaming as long as you don't go over your minutes, then you get hit with the double roaming charges, this I do know since I was just in Washington! lol.

I just ran quadrant on my Nexus S with only a custom kernel, no overclock and scored 2432. Wow dude! No custom ROM, just the Kernel. I think I will keep it this way, only thing is, the nexus s is getting old and I'm afraid we will be losing alot of support on certain kernels and ROM's. Apparently the creator of the Netarchy kernel is M.I.A. and may not be supporting it any longer, which will not go well with new updates. So that is a factor that may bite me in the arse lol. But CBW get's the hand-me-down phones so that's what I should expect I guess if I'm gonna use CBW huh?
[General Questions and Answers] Woody:
Actually the NS, bc it is Google phone, it is slated to get ICS sooner than most others. Nexus prime will get it first but that is going to be a Verizon phone exclusive. Keep the NS and be patient my friend. You'll be rewarded soon enough.
[General Questions and Answers] KayxGee1:
I officially moved on yesterday. I just ordered my HTC HD7S. :D
[General Questions and Answers] LibertyMonger:
Yeah

Yeah I think you are right its just the kernel I'm using and other development may start losing support its hard to sift through everything! Lmao. I guess thats a good thing HAHA! I think it be best to keep it stock anyway. That way everything works. I love how all I need to do is root and flash a custom kernel but it taKea the excitement out of it!
[General Questions and Answers] Knoedelkopf:
difficult to say which device my next one will be cause the phone that I prefer now will be "old" in 6 months and there will be a lot better devices.. haaha :D

but next device MUST have unlocked bootloaders.. that's for sure, dual core processor, enough RAM (not only 256 MB like xt720) and a very good camera (important for me :)) with xenon flash ! :)