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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] 420fan:
anyway to back up my apps and data without being rooted? I need to do a hard reset to get my clock and exchange email to work again, but really don't want to loose my stuff I already have. My damn phone updated to GB before I could catch it, so I couldn't root.

thanks in advance
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] beenz:
I'm pretty sure Astro has a feature that will back up the .APK's. But I don't think there is a way to back up the data associated with them without being rooted.

It's ridiculous that you can't back up data without being rooted, imo. Especially when you call customer service and the first thing they tell you to do is factory reset.

I hope I am wrong, and if I am, someone please correct me.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] andybones:
astro. it's free.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] 420fan:
will it also back up data? I found where it will back up the apps. Thanks for the quick replies.
[EVO 4G General] adidasrta:
I keep getting Account Verification error when I try to start the Sprint Voicemail app.

anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it?

Also, is there a way to calibrate the CM7 Rom as far as the touchscreen goes?
[EVO 4G General] drdrewdown:
check out this thread for vvm http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=982966

as far as screen recalibration i'm not sure why you'd need it.
[EVO 4G General] adidasrta:
my screen is jumpy and the lights for the 4 buttons don't light up anymore. I've read on other threads that once you re-calibrate the screen, it fixes this issue.

My screen is jumpy to the effect of i have to put the phone to sleep about 4 times before it responds properly.
[EVO 4G General] drdrewdown:
i have no idea what you mean by jumpy, but if you've seen in other threads about recalibrating, perhaps you should ask them what they did
[EVO 4G General] jimd144:
Switch to Google Voice. www.google.com/voice . Your sprint voicemail will be handled by google and you get transcription and multiple rings for free.
[Fascinate General] strictlyphat:
Some wishful thinking but are you wonderful fascinate devs willing to take Verizon up on their offer and swap your fassy for an incredible 2. I'm getting mine in a couple days and would LOVE to see your wonderful work over therr.

Sent from my Miui Fascinate Glitched ML.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
its not an offer to switch phones...it for people who have issues with their fascinates...its more or less fraud to claim the issue if you dont have it

if you have missed call issues or otherwise, then the dinc2 is amongst the options they give you (dx2, charge if you fight for it)
[Fascinate General] anoninja118:
this ^^^^^ I really was having the missed call problem bad, I need my phone for work and to reach family so missing calls is absolutely unacceptable and no rom/radio combo fixed it for me. As much as I hate to say it I did give up my Fassy for a Charge... I will miss it, it took a lot of consideration before I even tried calling

tapatalked from my stock VZ Fascinate :(
[Fascinate General] anoninja118:
stupid double post sorry

tapatalked from my stock VZ Fascinate :(
[Fascinate General] strictlyphat:
Oh sorry nit I'm a big supporter of your work. I am by no way frauding vzw. I actually have issues. Especially with GPS. It simply does not work. Unwashed just saddened bybthe development of inc2 and hoped for some light.

Sent from my Miui Fascinate Glitched ML.
[Fascinate General] foister82:
You may be able to swap devices, however i was told today by a tier 2 vzw rep that the only reason they have the swap as an option is because there is a delay from samsung with the fix in development for the missed call issue. GPS lock was a definite issue that has yet to be resolved however that's not what they're offering the replacements for right now.

That being said, you can usually make your case with any issue after 3rd or 4th replacement with the same problem (if it ends up being GPS) and they will offer a different but equivalent model. But, since VZW does not officially support google maps navigation (only VZnav) they do not usually consider the GPS Lock delay as an issue qualifying for device swap. That falls under manufacturer's warranty (replace for same device).
[Fascinate General] sfobrien:
I was offered the Charge or the dinc2 when having the issues. Dumped ED04 and they went away. Now with CM7 I'm staying right here, awsome performance.
[Fascinate General] Headcase8911:
Keep wishing, we'll keep our wonderful devs here thanks. Lol
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
my issue was different than most with the missed calls (broken speaker) but really if you have any missed call issues vzw is only too happy to give u a new phone...obviously if you have a perfectly fine fascinate theres no need to (unless ur bored)
[Fascinate General] anoninja118:
I thought that was a little strange when I called, the guy I talked to was extremely nice and apologetic, practically demanding that I take the Charge and went out of his way to call the manager of the store by my house to confirm (who coincidentaly was the one I processed the order with in the store and she seemed to act the same way)

tapatalked from my stock VZ Fascinate :(
[Fascinate General] foister82:
you have to understand this though... if you're working in a call center and getting angry callers all day every day, and you now have an option for these people that they know will make you very happy, it makes their lives much much easier at work. These people (especially the tier 2 guys and gals) get called everything under the sun because they cant warranty out a replacement for little jimmy who dropped his phone into the toilet.

This is one of the few times big red did this type of an offer that will really please the end user. Im really suprised they aren't offering DX's and D2G's instead of these much newer devices for the fascinate.
[Fascinate General] GrainOsand:
Nicely said, also I think whether people cgoose inc2 or charge, they should make the decision based on experience and no matter how you slice it, both options are an upgrade over the fascinate. So I dont think people can go wrong. Its a matter of personal preference and all the opinions in the world cant make you like a phone you dislike.....
[Fascinate General] Slic|<:
Truee. I agreed. I'm 95% sure I decided on a Dinc2, seeing how when I tried the Charge, aside from the 4G LTE (which I can wait) and Super Amoled Screen + (which sorta reminded me of amoled but better, I wasn't wowed as much due to TW) the whole user experience on TW made me hate it even more... lol. Though I know I can easily root it and do another rom, but I'm not sure why but I'm still going for the Dinc2? Though technically if were talking about Rom wise, the Charge can have about the same rom as Dinc2 aside from propitiatory Roms like Sense 3.0 and Touch Wiz 4.0.. Somehow i'm liking the new sense.. :\. Dinc2 just seems sexier now haha...
[Fascinate General] gubiguy:
I've had a few dropped calls... And to be honest I'm interested in the dinc2... But I'm not quite ready to part with my fascinate... Couple of quick questions: do they make you reproduce the problem? Because my fascinate has only done it once in a blue moon. Also, do they confiscate the fascinate, or do they let you keep it so I can turn it into a pseudo-iPod touch?
[Fascinate General] neyenlives:
This is news to me. A charge seems like a upgrade for sure. I'm surprised they would replace a device going for $100 with a newer one going for $300
[Fascinate General] jmaher1023:
My wife's fascinate will sometimes all of the sudden show a missed call when the phone never even rang. Is this the bug that everyone is talking about, or is it something different?
[Fascinate General] happynoodleboyx:
Very similiar... My mom called my 4 days in a row and the phone never rang, but I never got any missed call notifications!! Didn't even have to get passed tier1 tech support after I referenced this thread to get my inc2! Not gonna be a guinea pig for lte.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15675418&postcount=36
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
Aosp wise they can have the same roms to a point...the inc2 has stable cm omgb and miui now whereas the charge has nothing...yet

And as for oem skin roms that's preference but more people prefer sense to tw generally

But the other mitigating factors play in...screen size, form factor, root, battery life, lte...so I would say each person should weigh their decision based upon what their current needs are

Tbh if I had lte in my area I would have either really pushed for a tbolt or sucked it up and taken a charge

As it is I don't so that made the decision easy for me
[Fascinate General] speedingcheetah:
well this sure is annoying...I called Verizon just lat week when my 3g died on me...I was having the missed call problem as well...until I settled on EA28 modem..didn't give me any problems till a few days later when the modem hardware crapped out...

I got my replacement Fascinate and it is a newer hardware version (11.something) ..came stock with ED04 Froyo..have since flashed comRom 2.1 pbj -50 kernel and a SteelBlue 3.1 theme...will have to see for the next few days if the missed call problem appears...the phone seems much snappier and getting data speed up to 1.3 to 2Mbps download and .5Mbps upload..fastest I have seen yet..

But it still bugs me that its obvious that so many people have had problems with this phone and yet they wouldn't offer me a different model...well, its only my first replacement...but its just so annoying to have to go through all these hoops..

I like the charge, but seen the new Motorola Droid 3...looks promising..like the physical slide out keyboard..I really miss a physical keyboard... wonder why they aren't offering that phone as a replacement seeing as the Charge is $299 and the Moto Droid 3 is $199...
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
the d3 (while im sure already a commercial failure) is too new relatively speaking to be a replacement yet...and just because they charge $299 for the uh charge doesnt mean they pay samsung more than they pay moto for the d3...or that much more anyway
[Fascinate General] speedingcheetah:
That's kinda what I figured...the Charge is probably $100 more simply cause of the 4g alone...and anyway...never had the best of luck with Motorola phones ...heard their smartphones have a locked boot-loader or something, so flashing roms and mods is limited....that's why I like Samsung:D...easy to mod..
[Fascinate General] prehistorical:
My own experiences to date:

1. Yes, even if the VZW bulletin re-quoted by noodleboy a few posts back states that the problem is intermittent, most store techs will still try to reproduce the problem. Of course if the corporate store has those signal boosters, you are playing on uneven ground (in general). Signal boosters do NOT help with missed calls (specifically).

2. If they're giving you a a replacement unit (Charge, Dinc2, DX2) of course you will have to mail back your Fascinate complete with battery, SD card, cover, charger, etc. Chances are they will mail you the replacement warranty phone anyhows -- not the same as a new unit in their display case for folks who actually are paying money and signing up.

YMMV
[Fascinate General] prehistorical:
Scenario 1: missed call with no notification of missed call.

Scenario 2: missed call with (delayed or otherwise) notification of missed call.

My experience has been the former, and you appear to be descrbiing the latter.

At least one tech has layered an additional parameter: signal strength, and whether you are in the 80-85 (good) versus higher (bad). If you're in the 90s / 95s they might blame your local signal strength and send you another Fascinate anyhows. Again YMMV every call, every store, seems to be doing different actions.
[Fascinate General] prehistorical:
+ 1

Also

1. End of month July fix apparently will "solve it all"

2. Supposedly end of month is also when the tech reps no longer hang out in stores, and all tech issues have to go through the phone (has anyone else been fed this line?)

3. Region/area supposedly matters with phone performance (not just signal strength) but then again that is another tech rep's line. Believe it or not, some Fascinates out there work perfectly fine (yes I was told this)

4. A good line - you don't want the Charge because it is 4G and it uses more battery :D

YMMV
[Fascinate General] skafan2:
I've been suffering from missed calls (~1 in 10 calls) ever since back in April on Superclean, so I've realized I've got a hardware problem. So let me get two things straight...

1. Let's say I hold on to my fascinate until, for the sake of argument, December. Will I be able to trade in for a newer phone than these, or will I probably miss this tradein window altogether?

2. Now that I have a CM7 fascinate with the insane Glitch kernel, is the stock experience on the Inc2 (I don't like the Charge) really that much better? I mean, the community here is so great and my current OS experience so amazing that I would hesitate to leave.

The kicker here is that I may miss calls, but I rarely call people (Ironic, I know). I mostly text or use VoIP, so keeping the fascinate would not be too big of an issue in that regard.

Edit: I guess number 1 was kind of answer above right as I was typing this... come July, the window has passed.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
1. this offer (or the opportunity to take advantage of it for those with missed call issues or otherwise) is only around for awhile im sure...vzw tier2 is telling everyone another update is upcoming and i bet once that comes (if/when) that ll kill the offer...also the warranty on your phone is only good for a year...so if december is a past the 1 year mark its a no-go...its not a trade in though, its a warranty exchange (just to avoid confusion)

2. inc2 has cm7, miui, omfgb...but the kicker is that if you get a phone that ships with 2.3.3 there is no s-off exploit available yet...id imagine there will be, but not atm...you need access to a xtc clip that turns allows your device to be put in engineer/dev access to unlock it...if it ships with froyo you can use the existing s-off methods

i havent gotten mine yet so i cant say from experience but jcase has stated (and he has every single or used every single vzw android device) that the inc2 stock is the smoothest of any stock verizon phone and that it runs great on aosp

also for those who dont like aosp, sense (imo and the opinion of many) is far superior to touchwiz as a skin, and vanilla sense vs vanilla tw same experience (launcher removed, debloated)

really for the dx2 vs inc2 vs charge trade in debate it comes down to this:

dx2 is dual core, but there is no and probably wont be any (or much) development on the horizon, its locked and no one (afaik) is looking into 2nd init stuff for it...also the screen is apparently awful, but bigger...but if you like moto and ginger blur it may be appealing...also no lte

dinc2 has the same screen size as the fascinate (i prefer 4.0 to 4.3+ but thats me) and the best out of box experience of the 3...has all 3 of the big aosp roms available and is a nifty middle of the road (compared to say the evo3d or sensation) htc device...think 3g tbolt sans issues...but no lte available for it...but if ur not in an lte area or wont be soon, then shouldnt matter

charge (if u can push for it) has recovery and the omgb team has 2 phones to work on aosp...it may be a long winding road towards it so be prepared to be on custom tw roms for the near future...gummycharged is a nice option (and best tw rom they have imo) but again imo its not at the level of say community rom was for the fascinate (biased i know :o) but in time could be just as good or better, who knows :)...and there is the familarity of it for fascinate folks...best screen of the 3 phones for sure...and for those who like bigger/better also biggest (well tie with dx2) screen its a winner too...also well lte :cool:
[Fascinate General] skafan2:
nitsuj17, it's people like you who make me want to switch to the inc2 :D

Alright, I've already called Verizon a couple of times in the past month regarding some data issues (if anyone else remembers the whole DMU reset debacle) so they've got me on record as having problems. I'll call them up tonight and see what I can do.

Also, funny story: that one missed call out of ten? It was a job offer. I'm now a part time linux/java/web developer while at college, so once that kicks off I might have some new skills to give back to the community :cool:

Edit: foister brought up a good point... I'm going to check out the screens in a store to see how they compare before making any decisions.
[Fascinate General] tk1o48:
I understand a majority of you guys got your fascinates through verizon. But i purchased mine through best buy when they had the fascinate for 150$ promotion.

I too get missed calls but i can bet best buy is not as willing to replace products for free. Is there anyway i can get verizon to supply me with a new phone since it is their radio that is the issue here? Thanks for any input !:
[Fascinate General] chrisp304:
I got my phone at Bestbuy on free phone Friday. New Charge is arriving tomorrow. Where I got it or how much I paid wasn't an issue. From what I understand, Samsung is eating it.
[Fascinate General] happynoodleboyx:
Just call tech support and don't even mention it. If you get a phone shipped to you, you're good to go! I brought my white fascinate in, and there were not questions. Friend who works at Verizon said all Best Buy does is sell phones and people go into Verizon with their technical problems
[Fascinate General] tk1o48:
So if i take my fassy into verizon they will replace it for me? Or should i call instead? Thanks again
[Fascinate General] strictlyphat:
Update!!!!! I just got reoffered by Verizon the Droid charge. I'm gong with that. I.just hope we get good devs like you guys.
[Fascinate General] Hymizzle:
Call is your best bet. Went to store, no dice. Called tech support, Charge is on order.

Keep me Fascinated.
[Fascinate General] strictlyphat:
If you call they can only process dinc2 and x2. But you should still call and tell them you want the Droid charge so they can notate your account making your trip to the store to order seamless.

Also shouldn't matter where you got the fascinate. My wife's came from ebay for $120 and its being replaced.
[Fascinate General] skafan2:
I posted this in the other "upgrading" thread as well, so you may want to be careful.

I just got completely called out on tech support... she made me go in and check my version to make sure it was ED04, then do a system update, and then sync it with their systems. I had cm7, so I had to reflash complete stock and OTA update and then recall so that my phone showed up as "updated" in their system. Maybe I just got a intense rep, but better safe than sorry.

I do actually have to missed calls issue, don't worry, I'm not faking. Also, my Inc2 is in the mail, so it's a bittersweet moment.
[Fascinate General] strictlyphat:
You're crazy going through all that crap. I was on miui til yesterday. When I called on Sunday I was on miui. The tier two Rep didn't even bother I was very assertive telling him that I had ed04 already and have master reset and that I am not new to phones. He went straight to offering me my replacements.

And m charge will be here today. Woot woot
[Fascinate General] skafan2:
Yeah, I think it was just the guy I dealt with. First tier 2 guy flat out refused to give me a replacement phone - he wouldn't even send me a replacement fascinate even though I told him I need constant connectivity for my job and can't afford to miss calls and made it very clear that Verizon has done this for other customers. He said it was a Samsung problem, not Verizon, so Verizon shouldn't have to deal with it. I had to hang up, call Samsung, and then call back to get a different tier 2 tech before I could get my replacement.

I was pretty pissed.
[Fascinate General] strictlyphat:
I got shafted. They sent me a charge only. No battery, cover or charger. Now I gotta wait a whole nother day.... Fml
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
I think the people who plan to keep the fascinate would like to string you up and give you a beating for pushing devs off our phone..I know I don't like this post very much

Sent from a beautiful miui fascinate
[Fascinate General] Windst:
Great. I called my GF who has a fascinate (I have a NexusS), and she never got my text or calls today, when I was picking her up from a meeting spot to take her to a job interview, where she ended up not being found til later when I finally got through she said I never called and picked up, and nor did her mom or my mom. I had called my boss, my mom and texted all day.

This isn't the first time it has happened but its not that common..but she missed a job interview so werre a little angry

So as a XDA junkie I tried to fix her phones problem, and idk whats up, but If I can take her to verizon to have it replaced, I want to take her to do that.

What do we do, who do we call, what do we say. She's had the phone for about 2.5 months now.

Wouldn't they just give her a brand new stock fascinate, which does nothing but maybe repeat the problem and have her buy a new screen protector? I want to be able to take her tomorrow and help her get a reliable phone.
[Fascinate General] Bardasian:
If you have a nearby store, hurry in and get them to replace it with a different phone (Inc 2, X2, Charge). The policy is still in place but its getting harder to get a different model, especially with a new update being pushed soon. Its a prime opportunity to get a newer phone free.
[Fascinate General] glsteve:
Your best bet is to call the 611 number then they will send u a text with a number to call for tec support then go from there I wouldnt go to the store cause they probibly wont know what your talking about.
[Fascinate General] Tkun:
I have had the missed call issue, but I think that was while I was on an AOSP rom, so I'm going back to a Touchwiz rom with ED04 for the rest of tonight and tomorrow to see how everything goes. If I get the issue again, then I'm going into the store and seeing if I can get my phone replaced. If that doesn't work then I'll call tech support, but I think it'll be easier to go to the store first, since I'll already be out on the road tomorrow.
[Fascinate General] Windst:
will she be charged more now because it is 4g?
[Fascinate General] glsteve:
Not that I know of.
[Fascinate General] Slic|<:
No they'll try depending who your talking to. Talk to tech support and they'll switch it. :) I just recently got my second line replaced after its been on hiatus for a couple months for my sister and right after within a week of getting the replacement through Asurion I got her exchanged with aa Dinc2 the same night I ordered mine on the same phone call.
[Fascinate General] Slic|<:
Don't even bother going in the store unless its to claim your charge AFTER you've made a call and notated on your account. 95% people in the store won't know what your talking about or less compliant in doing it. Tech support call 100%. Than go to the store if your going for the charge.
[Fascinate General] Slic|<:
No same rates, and $30 unlimited if she had that before July 7! :) Due to tiered plan-which is also a reason they switched it to that-both 3G and 4G data are now considered the same, I'm talking plan and cost wise.
[Fascinate General] Windst:
K. Cuz shes grandfathered into the unlimited data. not the 2gig 5gig 10gig bundles they now have.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=plans

she doesnt want the phone replaced if it changes her plan.

--

Thanks everyone. my and my girl appreciate the input. clicked thanks to all of ya
[Fascinate General] glsteve:
Not a problem and I hate the new data caps Im getting my charge tomorrow and they never told me anything about changing my data when I get mine I have to go back to the store and activate it so ill drop a line on here and let u know for sure.
[Fascinate General] Bardasian:
They shouldn't be changing your data plans. Everyone is grandfathered in until you drop a data plan or try to change one. As long as you're simply upgrading devices, you should keep unlimited data.
[Fascinate General] glsteve:
oh thats awesome thanks for letting me know.:D