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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
Thats awesome! Glad you got it werkin!:)
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
I have the HD2 right now. Is the Sensation worth the upgrade? There is obviously not the HUGE dev community behind the Sensation in comparison to the HD2...
[HTC Sensation] ieftm:
Easily worth the upgrade due to the much, much newer architecture. Even locked it has *AWESOME* written all over it.

There's no development on Sensation right now, as the means to unlock it has yet to be released.

This is (along with the Evo3D) HTC's new flagship, so it's bound to have proper development in time.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
HTCPedia posted today that the Sensation's bootloader was unlocked, complete with screenshot.

http://htcpedia.com/news/sensation-gets-s-off.html
[HTC Sensation] DiZzle.:
I think he knows. Alpharev unlocked the bootloader, look at his signature :)
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
I never pay attention to sig's. Maybe I should do so. Haha. But I guess we will have a large dev community behind this phone now?
[HTC Sensation] tfn:
I would suggest you go for the Samsung galaxy s2 unless you are a die hard htc fan

I had a hero and HD7 and thought I d jump ship and see how samsung phones work

Quiet happy , won't say its all goody but you can easily update to new firmware without the need to root via a software called ODIN

Already on 2.3.4 and never been happy..

Also I think the camera is slightly better than sensation

Just my thoughts

If possible go in a store and play with them both, you may get a bit of any idea of which one you fall in love with :p
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
TMobile USA doesn't have the S II yet unfortunately, and to be honest, I'm not sure if they're even getting it. I could get it off NewEgg or eBay but from what I hear, all I will get is Edge, not 4G.
[HTC Sensation] DiZzle.:
In a few months this phone will have a lot of roms. No need to change.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
So wait a bit for the Sensation?
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
GSII isn't worth it without 3G. If it were on T-Mobile then I would say get it instead of the Sensation. I know I will hang up my Sensation if it ever gets to T-Mobile.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
S II is iffy as far as TMobile availability as far as I know. Does anyone have the "official" word?

BTW - From Charm City? I live in Owings Mills.
[HTC Sensation] Poker gypsy:
I like the htc for one thing the camera lens sets in and not flush with the back cover.. I had the gs1 and got scratches on the lens,
[HTC Sensation] DiZzle.:
I don't have HD2 or owned one, so i don't know if it's big upgrade. Maybe someone else can answer that. But the Sensation and the EVO3D are the 2 new flagships of HTC. So there is a good chance there will be a huge community, and a lot of roms and other stuff for both of them.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Well HD2 only has 7 meg HSDPA, and a single core processor...
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Im not sure about the GSII but everyone knows about the Hercules. It might have a 4,5 inch display and a different chipset but nobody is really sure yet. Its actually rumored to have the Adreno 220 which will probably be a lot faster than it is on the Sensation due to the ****ty HTC drivers and not having a UI with useless eye candy.
[HTC Sensation] DiZzle.:
Maybe so, but it all depends on how u use the phone. If all the apps and games are still running good, why upgrade. That would be my thought. It's all personal.

But if you want to upgrade, because you want to download stuff a second faster or load apps/games a second faster, or whatever reason, this phone will be a nice upgrade.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Yeah, I mean the HD2 supports 7 meg HSDPA, but I usually get about 2...The thing that attracts me, is the better camera, and dual core CPU.
[HTC Sensation] waltsalt:
I was using an Android flashed HD2 up until I dropped it last week and shattered the screen. I had ordered a new digitizer from fleabay but when it arrived it was damaged so I got impatient and ordered a new Sensation instead. I just got it today and, even though I was more than happy with the HD2 and had no plans to upgrade, I have to say I'm very glad I did. The HD2 was is a very awesome phone but after using the Sensation it now feels like it was v rough around the edges. The Sensation is silky smooth - and that's while we're still running on stock!!

I say upgrade. You'll not regret it.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Thanks for the input. And with TMobile planning to upgrade nationwide network speeds, maybe it's not a bad idea. Part of me still wants to wait to see if I can get the Galaxy S II...

Decisions decisions.... :)
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
I've gone from HD2 > Sensation. Got the HD2 as soon as it came out.

The Sensation is fantastic...a huge leap from the HD2...obviously much faster/slicker...much nice to look at and hold, screen is so much better than the HD2 it's not funny.

Development will come soon ;)
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Is the Sensation thinner than the HD2?
[HTC Sensation] waltsalt:
I tried them both out in a shop before I decided to get the Sensation. The Galaxy S II was nice to use and the colours of the screen were very crisp and sharp but in the end I went with the Sensation because for me the Galaxy feels cheap and plastic-y. The Sensation is solid and felt much better in my hand.
[HTC Sensation] waltsalt:
I'm not sure if there is much difference between the phones in terms of physical size but the Sensation feels neater and smaller than the HD2.
[HTC Sensation] the_scotsman:
Good size comparison here: http://www.thephonedatabase.com/HTC_HD2_162_vs_HTC_Sensation_544_Compare_Phones

Both very similar in size and thickness...very little in it. Don't have my HD2 on me to compare but there's little between them.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
The HD2 is 720p display correct? I remember reading the Sensation is 1080p.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Display? Do you mean video recording?
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
The display.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Well the HD2 has a WVGA screen (wider VGA [640x480], 5:3/15:9 aspect ratio) and the Sensation has a qHD resolution (quarter of 1080p, 16:9 aspect ratio).
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Good to know, thanks.

Any other input?
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
I also had hd2 since it came out before I got sensation. Look at this way.

Look how amazing the hd2 became even almost two years after it came out because of development.

The sensation is better then it stock in every way possible. Imagine how amazing it will be once it gets developed as the hd2 did.

Even if there won't be as much developmet trust me get the sensation!!!!!!!!
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Not a big fan of Sense though...
[HTC Sensation] wukillabeezy:
Get the sensation it runs awesome stock. And previously stated with dev support its gonna be a keeper.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
In comparison to what they're saying about the Galaxy S II though?
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
I upgraded from the HD2. Loaned my HD2 to my girlfriend until August when she's due for an upgrade. I miss flashing android ROMs and all that. The Sensation is perfect in every way for me. It's kinda boring in a way, but it kills the HD2. Do it and keep your HD2 to get your flashing fix. Maybe go back to winmo 6.5 or something. :). Or flash wp7 on it.
[HTC Sensation] bucksbunny:
Sorry to state a negative point here, but I am wondering why you opened this thread?

The questions you have can easily be found on the internet. Just type "GSII vs Sensation" in google and you will get thousands of reviews dealing with the questions you have.

As for the rest; it depends on your personal taste (as you said somewhere; you don't like sense).

On the other hand; it is heartwarming to see the assistence of the community helping you to make the right choice :-)
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Getting "real life" experiences with both devices. Don't make useless derailing posts please.
[HTC Sensation] waltsalt:
Pretty sure this isn't gonna be a deal breaker but the FM radio works a treat on the Sensation. I always got crappy reception on my Android build on my HD2. Just in case you were wondering ;)
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Good to know, I never listen to FM though. FM is **** nowadays. XM Radio FTW.
[HTC Sensation] CB620:
Yes it is. Htc will deal will issues. LG just got a case opened against them for walking by all their issues. I don't see any other phone on tmo competing with it. Def not the mt4gs lol. That's a kiddy phone.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Nothing competes with it until the SGSII hits tmo.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Dev support will be very good on sensation. Maybe not as many US devs but plenty European/Asian ones. Very good devs as well.
[HTC Sensation] 2real2141:
As a new user to sensation coming from N1. I really like the sensation. Thought I'd miss amoled but the qhd is quite nice. My only gripe is sense. It's nice looking but its slow as crap at least on my phone. Whenever I exit an app or web it takes a few seconds for it to launch the home screens. I've been using launcher pro and is much faster but you lose a few widgets as there associated to sense. So I'm liking my chops waiting for root. So long story short, for a user like you, who has knowledge about flashing custom roms, I think you'll love the sensation once it's unlocked, but you'll probably just like it while we wait for root.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Will Euro or Asian dev's affect US phones? I don't think it will.
[HTC Sensation] frankinstine:
I developed roms for the hd2 and it was nice....but this phone has more potential than the hd2 (once its unlocked) the stock Rom is good but needs improvement. You won't regret getting it especially when its unlocked... On a side note, I never liked the galaxy, like others have stated, it feels really cheap. My wife had a galaxy for a week and returned it. But it leans more towards personal preference.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
It's actually been unlocked already.

Either way, thanks for the reply.
[HTC Sensation] drummr8:
not really... I mean it has, but normal people like us can't unlock it yet.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
All we need is HSPL. :)
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
LOL HD2 really? Get rid of that OLD *bleep* phone....being that the Sensation is a native android phone all that HSPL mess will be totally unnecessary :D can't believe you have used that phone this long LOL
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Haha don't hate. HD2 is an awesome phone.

Side note, you have the gTablet? How is it?
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
my HD2 has been sitting in the top drawer of my desk for many many months :D surprised you didn't jump on the MT4G. As for the Gtab it's great a lot of roms to play with so I cannot complain. If you are thinking of getting a new tablet I would get the Acer Iconia A500 it's only $279 at Staples this week.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Acer Iconia A500 have tons of dev support here?
[HTC Sensation] drummr8:
The gTablet kind of sucked IMO. I mean, it was great for only $285, but now you have many more options like the Acer tablet mentioned and the Asus Transformer. It was fun for a little while messing around with ROMs on the gTab, but the horrible screen and various other problems were pretty annoying. All personal preference though I guess. If I were you I'd just buy a tablet that comes with Honeycomb :)

I actually might go to Staples today and see if I can get a Transformer with that coupon.
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
I might get the Acer today at Staples, it'd only be $299 right?

Coupon: http://reg.e.staples.com/c/s/tagfrm...QG13b0JDalVBQURPeGUtWUFBQUlh&PID=552179&n=927
[HTC Sensation] dhies:
I love it! I had an HD2 until I got it wet. This phone is so much faster stock. I was running MIUI on my HD2.

The display is a lot better and clearer. I'm also on TMobile and it seems faster surfing the internet and everything. Of course, for the last month I've been using a wet phone that wasn't getting a good signal.

If it gets the same dev time that the HD2 got, it'll be even more amazing.
[HTC Sensation] woundtrauma:
With all respect, you should watch other forums before posting 'news'.

AlphaRevX -team is worked months with this situation and they have even own thread in Sensation development.

Watch! :)
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
I'm in NC and original price $379-$100=$279 bought one Tuesday
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
I heard that coupon only works for "registered customers." What's that about? I just found the coupon and printed it. Bringing it to the store this evening for the Iconia.
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
Sign up for their rewards program... just go to the website

https://www.staplesrewardscenter.co...chandising-_-My account tab-_-staples rewards
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Just signed up. Printed my temporary card.
[HTC Sensation] Mafioso:
Dude, that's why you hate it...you just put in the drawer and forget about it...

HD2 Android is just getting better and better all the time. With some latest ROMs espically CM7 ones, it runs very smooth and I dare say, some of the native android phone (w/ stock firmwares :P)...If you like flashing, you should really try it...its flash junkie's wet dream :P
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Yep. HyperDroid 2.1.0 is the latest and greatest. Especially with the 1.8 GPS lib's.
[HTC Sensation] wukillabeezy:
I'm not here to say its better than the galaxy because I believe different phones are better for different people. I just prefer htc hardware wise.
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
I am a crack flasher I flash new roms all the time. The HD2 sits in my drawer because it is not worthy of a full day's use. The MT4G has better specs (other than smaller screen) plus newer version of snapdragon and a front facing camera...Never understood why people stuck with the HD2 so long other than the fact you could find them super cheap every where. For me it was a no brainer. As for the original post I would definitely buy the S4G and retire the HD2 :D

Shaolin!
[HTC Sensation] agentfazexx:
Not worthy of daily use why?
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
Because every other phone I own is better...again just my opinion. Have you used any newer 1ghz ANDROID device? The phones I use currently are S4G, MT4G and G2x in that order.... even though I hate my G2x
[HTC Sensation] CB620:
True. I'm waiting for that as well. Also want to see what the Hercules is about. Heard its just a Tmo Infuse. If its dual core I may get that over the S2. When I had the vibrant I hate having to use Odin for everything.
[HTC Sensation] Success100:
its like the infuse, just dual core, with more memory..also can record native 1080p instead of 720p (without software hacks)
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Yeah, it's the Infuse with the same CPU that the Sensation has and a 42 Mbps radio.
[HTC Sensation] :
To the OP: What are you currently using your phone for?

If it is little more than basic web browsing, email etc, then as much as people will whine at me, you aren't going to see much difference at all between an HD2 on GB and a Sensation. Sure, the Sensation has more power, but you don't need a dual-core processor for most tasks.

In terms of single core performance, there isn't a huge difference. The only difference is when it comes to memory, of course.

If you really think about how you use your phone, you'll probably find that your HD2 is enough :)
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
Booooooooooo
[HTC Sensation] SamStone:
I agree with that, I originally had a HD2 when all you could run on it was WinMo when they first came out. I was one of the first ones to upgrade to an Android ROM and after that I was hooked, I really enjoyed using the Android OS much more than WinMo or iOS.

Anyway I upgraded to a Desire HD as soon as they were available here and after that the Sensation. Every time that I have upgraded the phones just worked a little smoother and a little faster but all three, the HD2, Desire HD, and Sensation worked very well. IMO all that you would get upgrading to the Sensation is a phone that works a little faster and smoother, if having the latest and greatest is important to you my advice would be to go for it, if not the HD2 with Android is still a great phone.
[HTC Sensation] CdTDroiD:
I was thinking of getting one had a play for a week but the only thing that I would really want the sensation over my dhd would be the front facing camera otherwise dhd kicks ass
[HTC Sensation] RickMckc:
I have had an HD2 for about a year. I ran the stock WM 6.5 up until the past two months ... and hated it. Then, I found out about XDA and started flashing Android NAND Roms and finally started to enjoy the phone. Android really does unlock its power (pun intended). When I discovered MIUI for HD2, I was even more pleased.

Then, about a week ago my wife decided she wanted to move up from a flip-phone to a smartphone, so I gave her the HD2 (mostly because MIUI is extremely intuitive and she's not tech-savvy) and bought the Sensation. I tried the G2X first (and didn't have any of the problems) but went to the Sensation because its form factor is almost identical to the HD2 and I liked the 4.3 screen compared to the G2X 4.0.

My basic reaction has been "wow."

* It's much, much faster. Boot up (with fastboot enabled) is about 10 seconds compared to 40 for MIUI on the HD2.

* I did not like Sense on the WM version of HD2 or even in the Android ROMS, but Sense 3.0 is amazing. It really flies. It's still pretty complex, but it's also fairly intuitive.

* The display is beautiful - much brighter and sharper.

* 4G vs 3G

* 8PM camera vs 5PM camera

Bottom line: I would have been very happy staying with the HD2 and continually updating MIUI, but having upgraded to the Sensation, I have to say I am glad I did. I'm also very curious about what will happen when it's unlocked - can developer ROMS really exceed the quality of stock? It's that good.

Best of luck on your decision!
[HTC Sensation] Mafioso:
Well yes, I have played a lot on my friends AT&T Captivate (galaxy S) with stock firmware though and I still prefer my HD2 over it...

Yes, it does have the AMOLED screen but which really outshines HD2's but it just stops there with it...HD2 on CM7 ROM feels smoother than it ...i know captivate is on stock and that makes a huge difference..but so far I don't have any complaints regarding HD2 performance minus the large bootup time of about 40s-1 min but how many time does reboot his cell normally?

MIUI and Sense are slow but they are still usable, newer devices will have a advantage on them but if you are stock/cm7 fan IMO HD2's hardware is enough..
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevria:
I am looking to get a Captivate or HD2 off of ebay for my son to use as a media player and I was wondering whether the captivate would work as a wifi only device without being on the ATT network.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krips2003:
Check out in the development section. There is a rom dedicated for using captivate as music player.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevria:
You wouldnt happen to have any idea which one it is? Im on Serendipity on my captivate and none of the other rom thread titles are jumping out as primarily for music players
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
Tadaaaa http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1093696
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jivy26:
He can also just use any rom without a sim card and it will work fine.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevria:
Thanks, I was looking for a thread who's title reflected a media player version.

Bummer, its Froyo only which means no netflix. I might have to see if I can get Serendipity to work on it with no SIM card.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevria:
Oh, that was something I didnt know, thanks.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] @trigger:
I'm currently using my cappy as a media player... and yeah without any SIM card..
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cappysw10:
That's one expensive ipod!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevria:
Im finding used captivates for around $175 which starts with 16GB of memory and is upgradable to 32GB. And it has android and full access to the market along with gorilla glass, wifi and a camera. Overall it seems pretty cheap compared to a refurb Zune or similar.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] studacris:
Actually the 16gb internal with a 32gb external sdcard you would have close to 48gbs minus the os and 2gb data partition for user apps.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevria:
True if I were to max it out BUT my son currently has a 2GB player so having 14GB of space should be plenty to start with.
[Fascinate General] dricacho:
So I've been searching online and I couldn't get any straight answer. Everyone else would rather talk about themes and status bar instead of functionality and performance.

So I just realized that my fascinate, running on MIUI FascinateMTD 1.7.15, doesn't support A2SD+ according to the SD card section on my ROM. I've formatted and partitioned my SDcard (EXT size 1024mb / swap size 256mb) and after rebooting the phone doesn't see or detect the EXT partition. So I ODIN'd my phone back to EB01. Then wipe data/cach/dalvik and re-flashed MIUI FascinateMTD 1.7.15. Then using the blue CWM, I reformatted and repartitioned the SDcard with the same EXT/swap size, then rebooted my phone. Same result. My phone doesn't recognize the EXT partition and it still said that it doesn't support A2SD+ . I tried using S2E and DarkTremor's a2sd but nothing worked.

What gives? Can ANYONE provide some guidance on this?
[Fascinate General] Dalamar1320:
If I can find an old sdcard to use, I'll look I to it. When you said you formatted to ext, how did you format it? From Linux? Windows 3rd party partition program? Cwm recovery? Etc. Ext2, 3, 4?

You also mentioned functionality and performance, what performance increase you expecting to gain by going a2sd? I ask because there shouldn't be an increase by going a2sd. As for functionality, it should be the same unless you need over 1.5gb for apps which is your internal storage size.

But I don't mind trying to figure it out if I can find an old sdcard.
[Fascinate General] deaffob:
Uh you'd lose performance if you do A2SD because your internal flash speed is a lot faster.
[Fascinate General] dricacho:
Functionality being able to move some of the apps (that I don't use every day but will need in the future) over to the SD card freeing up more internal memory (performance).

I used the blue CWM recovery v4.0.0.9 that came with the MIUI Rom and the red CWM recover v2.5.1.x to format and partition the SDcard. I do plan on getting a class 4 SDcard this weekend as soon as I get my paycheck.
[Fascinate General] PhoenixPath:
Been moving apparently to my class 10 d card with appadmin pro(in the market) for a while now. Is this what you guys are talking about?
[Fascinate General] mwestendorf:
Mine also states this, I had started another thread a few days ago.

I took all the steps you are, I finally gave up on what the settings say, I remember reading somewhere that the cm7 port doesn't currently support the sd ext partition, (maybe I dreamt this).

However I was able to move apps to my sd card.

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If you get the error about not having enough free space, uninstall and reinstall the app.

I'll also note I believe I first got this error after wiping data and installing miui, then restoring from a miui backup. prior to then I could move apps just fine, however the reason I wiped data was because I got stuck in a boot loop when flashing an update so it could of been the update as well.

Sent from my I500
[Fascinate General] dricacho:
At one point, when I was on MIUI 1.7.8, it was still letting me move some apps to the SDcard. However, when I went to Manage Application and onto the "On SD card" tab and selected an app that was supposedly on the SDcard, the MOVE to SD card button is still active (not grayed out) as if it had never been moved in the first place.
[Fascinate General] mwestendorf:
I guess I look at that tab as a poor

choice of words, to me it implies these apps "can" be moved to the sd card, the check mark tells you whether it is actually there or not.

Sent from my I500