yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] ofmb:
more than that - attach directory search of all files and we compare them?

maybe it's somewhere else, not in 1/2 etc' and in case you don't wanna expose private data

just filenames and md5's

@racca - your defy is like THE ONE and the 5th element combined together
[Defy General] vick33:
Could you check cdt and ebr? My guess would be ebr or bploader
[Defy General] ofmb:
might me dumb question - but have you tried booting without sdcard..?
[Defy General] ofmb:
http://and-developers.com/modes:bootloader_mode?s[]=fastboot

"... none of the known fastboot commands seem to work (except develeper phones). "

what are these Dev-phones? maybe racca got one of those? are they recognizable?
[Defy General] racca:
i don't think there's any point in checking out cdt or ebr since they are both flashed via sbf/rsdlite.

and i assume bploader have nothing to do with the locked part as per droid-developers.com, but i'll try any way.

i knew it was a sample, but i didn't know it's a dev phone until recently (when i accidentally downgraded).
[Defy General] vick33:
Sorry you are right i should have thought that.... what about pds then? Or dump the nand of both phone and compare?
[Defy General] racca:
i suspect it's not in nand, it's more likely tucked into bootrom.

but i'll take a look at the dumps (and upload the full mmcblk1 if possible) tommorrow.
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
For a list of partitions flashed by SBF:

http://and-developers.com/partitions:cdt

Grab SBFDepacker (google it) for Windows and choose the desired firmware and it will show all the flashed partitions (and CGs), then compare both information.

Sent from my Milestone 2
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
It's gonna take a while to upload a full mmcbkl1, it is 8Gb in M2, for Defy I think its 1,5Gb.

Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App
[Defy General] racca:
Not really. Since data&cache are primarily blank. A zipped file should still be reasonably small

Sent from my MB860
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
Hey racca, how did you find out you had an engi phone?
[Defy General] danimagrin:
Racca, do you need a full dump of a retail Defy nand?

If yes please just ask I can do it as soon as you need!
[Defy General] Simplestas:
The differences between retail and eng motos are determined by efuse cells (afaik from mbm disasm).
[Defy General] racca:
Not really, i have access to a few of them myself.

Sent from my MB860
[Defy General] racca:
I thought efuse wasn't active on defy.

Anyhow, I too reckon it's in the bootrom somewhere.

Sent from my MB860
[Defy General] danimagrin:
What about editing mbm so that it thinks the right efuses are blown(or not)?
[Defy General] maniac103:
It must contain a valid signature, otherwise it's not loaded by the boot ROM...
[Defy General] danimagrin:
Any way to manually blow the efuse perhaps?
[Defy General] mesterke:
Maybe by jtag but that means you have to dissasamble your phone and you have to find the proper pinout aswell
[Defy General] drwario:
Risky
[Defy General] danimagrin:
Does Defy really have JTAG? I ask this because everyone that bricked the phone by messing with pds partition and mbm/mbmloader always have the board replaced, and if JTAG were present probably the phone could be reprogrammed and unbricked even if it doesn't turn on... I'm still wondering how Motorola blows the efuse of the eng units...
[Defy General] sunoldman:
If someone has a unlocked defy, how to unlock others?
[Defy General] ephumuris:
That's probably eng one.
[Defy General] kirpeace:
does all phone have mbm/mmcblk1p2 or only eng
[Defy General] danimagrin:
All phones
[Defy General] sunoldman:
The "eating table" guy said the Hongkong version defy will receive update containing unlock option recently
[Defy General] lord0815:
Maybe its the same guy posted that there will be an official update to 3.0 for defy? :D

Maybe this will solve our request?! (End of 2011...)

http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/27/confirmation-motorola-to-unlock-bootloaders-for-future-android-devices/

Cheers
[Defy General] cloogshizer:
See here. It is fake with high confidence.
[Defy General] shorty66:
So you understand chinese? Or did you get that "high confidence" by relying on Google Translate or source which use GT?
[Defy General] cloogshizer:
Well, as 2011-07-29 is over soon, my confidence increases by the minute.

But as you apparently have a better understanding of Chinese, you will surely let us know if my assumption is wrong.

Of course, I would be happy to see the Defy unlocked. But I first believe it when I see it.

Cheers!
[Defy General] samcripp:
im not sure about the unlocking happening yesterday! but it is known that Motorola does plan to unlock all their devices by the end of the year! @ibproud has began a campaign to do such thing and moto has contacted him and told him this information personally.
[Defy General] youbaoer:
Good news. All devices, not only new ones?
[Defy General] djkail:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-u...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+ausdroid+(Ausdroid)

All devices who will have an update at 3Q will be unlocked at the end of the year... (carriers will have to agree too... :mad: ) so... my defy received froyo in 2Q (june)... I have to see it to believe it... :rolleyes: This cant be happening...
[Defy General] Lemark:
Original thread in the Chinese gfan has been removed. So the unlocking news may have minimum credibility as of now. Besides, moto released the defy+ with gingerbread in China. It would have taken a short step for them also to support green lensed defys. Gingerbread update would've made the unlocking less of an issue for a lot of us.
[Defy General] hackergnome:
Any progress any one looking for a way to blow efuse(if it is there..)

Any other way to do this??
[Defy General] viper.:
:confused:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades

I dont see any updates in Q3 or Q4.. LOOOL
[Defy General] djkail:
Wait... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1178243

Uk release is 20 july... So this is 3Q in this year. Is uk getting unlocked bootloader? If not... Motorola lied... Ha ha! Gotcha!

Enviado desde mi MB525 usando Tapatalk
[Defy General] cloogshizer:
Would you mind sharing a link or two to Defy+ information released in China? It would be great! Thanks!
[Defy General] qa729:
I'm just posting a random thought I had, when I read how this method works:

We didn't find a signed firmware/software that is dedicated to the Defy to unlock the bootloader yet, but we know that a software for the Atrix can be used to unlock the bootloader.

So I had a simple, but maybe stupid idea: Why shouldn't it be possible to flash a software meant for the Atrix on our MB525? I mean, flashing software made for the Milestone 2 is possible, the signatures are accepted by our bootloader.

Combined with maybe 2nd boot it should be possible to load the drivers needed for our device via modules.

I really am no developer, but I think this should be possible, altough my thoughts are much simplified.
[Defy General] kruppin:
Becouse the milestone and Defy are pretty similar in hardware. But the atrix is a tegra device, very different.
[Defy General] Lemark:
For the information of Defy+ in Chinese plz refer to this link:

http://gz.pconline.com.cn/1107/2481862.html

The specs are:

GSM,WCDMA

GSM 850/900/1800/1900,WCDMA 850/1700/2100MHz,HSPA850/1900/2100MHz

Android 2.3

3.7" TFT

480×854(FWVGA)

TI OMAP3620 1024MHz

GPU	Imagination PowerVR SGX530

512MB RAM,2GB ROM

107×59×13.4mm

118g
[Defy General] racca:
Think again!

MS/2 signature was NEVER accepted by Defy and never will be.

1. You are still using moto signed boot.img made for Defy/+.

2. What's actually inside /system is not checked by MBM after RSDLite/SBF_flash.
[Defy General] Salzgurke:
Google bought motorola mobilität...

Http://investor.google.com/releases/2011/0815.html

maybe unlocked bootloader in sight?
[Defy General] ofmb:
unlocking was planned prior to aquisition..

but i can't say whether it will delay unlocking (due to other priorities),

speedup (more devs and more open like nexus')

or won't change sched
[Defy General] Passa91:
When have Motorola ever said they were unlocking the Defy? I thought it was only going to be their new phones.
[Defy General] alaageria:
Guys the Motorola defy+ was realeased and since its a new phone with similar hardware i think we can unlock the defy.

Hoping Motorola sticks with its promises
[Defy General] zakoo2:
but for that we need an unlocked defy+, which afaik we dont. but lets hope the defy+ counts as a 'newer' device, and moto will unlock it. but it would be kinda stupid of them to unlock the defy+ and not the defy, since it has the same hardware...
[Defy General] Salzgurke:
Unlooked redlens kinda is defy+
[Defy General] nupi:
Lets hope Google will make them open ALL bootloaders. And ship ICS for all phones that can run it, while they are at it - clearly their new overlord has much to gain from having a broad ICS base out there.
[Defy General] Karsten95:
Hmmmm... any News? Will Defy+ get a unlocked a Bootloader in the End of this year ? I had read Rumors.
[Defy General] WIIstpM:
Motorola France said that the bootloader of Motorola Defy/Defy+ will NEVER be unlocked... Really sad news!!!

I was hoping to see Sense on Defy, but now I'm completely down...
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
Source?

If that is true, Motorola is a liar... And all the other OMAP3 based phones will have the same locked fate...

Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App
[Defy General] WIIstpM:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=942759&page=3

The statement is in French, and I understand French.Moto says it will never get unlocked bootloader
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
They are kinda stupid... They already spent money making some Gingerbread build, see the leaked GB SBFs, and now they say they won't upgrade officially so no bootloader unlock... It is the same thing that happened to Milestone 1, but, under pressure, they eventually upgraded M1 to Froyo.

If the problem is they have to pay the carriers to launch a update, why can't they upgrade the retail phones?

Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App
[Defy General] WIIstpM:
The leaked GB were for Defy+...
[Defy General] chab7:
But those GB roms were with same battery parameters. New german Defy+ rom has different battery (need battd what did not needed for earlier leaked roms).
[Defy General] EndiFreeKolesio:
Can anyone upload debian-img.zip? THX
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
You can build one image yourself, there's some guides out there.

Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App
[Defy General] Kazid:
At some time ago, I've used a Debian on a arm9. Was a "endebian",google it.you download it, on terminal (Linux) do "make menuconfigure" if i'm not wrong.will open a windows to configure the devices and what you want...configure and do "make" after sometime, you will have a debian image, as you wish. Hope it's what you are looking for.
[Defy General] luciferps:
so any progress..man what are the steps i can also try for this i am free at my home 24 hours :P :D
[Defy General] blackwing182:
@samcripp any news on this crappy thing of defy bootloader

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para mi que esto es imposible y no sera posible tampoco!
[Defy General] dangpzanco:
[2]

Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App
[Defy General] sUpErwHoO:
Hey guys?? Did it work or did this end :(
[Defy General] ofmb:
Reviving the thread due to new info:

"...He confirmed that there was an ICS 4.1 build for the DEFY+ in testing..."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1378691
[Defy General] rxmd:
I think we can safely pronounce this a dead idea.
[Defy General] gkai:
not 100% sure it is dead: the latest news are somewhat positive: there is the new 2.3.6 SBF which come with a new bootloader which is incompatible with the previous ones, and that afaik has not been completely tested for an unlocked option (or which is unlocked by default? probably not, but one can dream). I am not optimistic on this one, but it is a new possibility.

And then, much more promising, there is a rumor for an official ICS for defy+. If motorola release it (or it is leaked), it should come with an unlocked bootloader given moto previous words on the issue. If not, they are liars without any doubt, and they can not wiggle out of it. So there will be blood on the various facebook/petitions/... webpages about unlocking moto bootloader, and I hope it will reach mainstream tech media. This would be very bad publicity for moto again, so hopefully they will do the right thing and unlock the damn thing....
[Defy General] Cocolopes:
It's the new bootloader the same that the atrix?

Maybe now we can use the same unlocking way....to do this...

under water
[Defy General] rxmd:
From what I can see it's as locked as any previous bootloader.

This is Motorola we're talking about. They're the TiVo of telephones. Their word on this isn't worth the paper it's printed on. (Oh wait, it wasn't even printed.)
[Defy General] marhensa:
and also i wonder, how ****ing hard for motorola to unlock it by the way?

if it's just because there'll be many of noobs returning their broken devices because of their mistake when doing something related to hacking stuff,

then it's not moto's concern, that will be user faults, moto shouldn't afraid of it.

when unlocking a bootloader, user also broke their warranty, done.

i think it is just as simple as that.

why they resist to lock their bootloader? :mad:

it againts the spirit of android itself, open and free for people to develop.. :)

i guess it just because the f***ing carrier stuff, like VZW, TMo, etc..

they just wont let this happen.
[Defy General] paijho158:
wait until former version of defy officially discontinued. and see what will happen. just IMO. now back to topic.
[Defy General] airwolf1544:
Is it possible to flash another compareable, open bootloader?

Gesendet von meinem MB525 mit Tapatalk
[Defy General] glycolysis:
It is not possible without a JTAG connection at the very least. Even then the processor might be too locked down.
[Defy General] m11kkaa:
Yes, many production-SoC's(SystemOnChip) have a security-feature which don't let you boot any unsigned image.

Even if it's at lowest level possible.
[Defy General] airwolf1544:
Thanks.

Only to clarify my question: Motorola Razr should be the first android phone with the possibility to unlock the bootloader. Is there a chance to flash the bootloader from the Razr?
[Defy General] adi4motion:
the Atrix already received unlocked bootloader... but really the question stands...

can someone repack a defy SBF with atrix unlocked bootloader and give it a go? i know that hardware-wise they are different but maybe the bootloader is the same?:-s (this may be very stupid... I would someone to correct me if i'm wrong)
[Defy General] gkai:
afaik bootloader is CPU-specific at least, maybe depend on other component like type of flash and so on. Defy uses the OMAP 3630 CPU from Texas instruments, Atrix a tegra 2 from Nvidia....so no chance to ever use Atrix bootloader on Defy/Defy+ imho.
[Defy General] adi4motion:
oh...ok, maybe defy+ will be unlocked soon:)
[Defy General] gkai:
Yes, I cross finger for this too...although have a look at the progress for CM9: Epsylon seems close to solving SOC camera support on Defy+ kernel, this means that a lot of things can be done with modules only on the latest motorola-signed kernel. And CM9 (ICS) is close to beta stage on this kernel. So even if the bootloader remain locked, it seems that clever devs here will be able to get a very nice ICS port. Given that, the locked bootloader is more an inconvenience than a showstopper (which makes moto policy even more ridiculous)
[Defy General] starbright_:
Is there a way to get Defy+ kernel on a Defy? I could imagine that this will make an ICS port or any development for the Defy-family much easier, as both devices behave same then ...
[Defy General] airwolf1544:
Yes.. the complete Defy+ Firmware works on Defy. Only green lese camera will not work. Everything else is fine.
[Defy General] starbright_:
How this is working? I thought bootloader is locked, and so the used kernel...

Did I misunderstood this?
[Defy General] TJKV:
Defy + kernel is also from motorola, so the bootloader has no problems loading it.
[Defy General] gkai:
Afaik, all the moto kernels for Defy and Defy+ use the same signing keys...so all of them can be loaded by the bootloaders of either Defy or Defy+. At least as long as the kernel is of a "version" higher or equal to the one of the bootloader, and a bootloader can only be upgraded, not downgraded. On the other hand, customs kernels are not signed (we do not have the signing keys of moto to do so), so they can not be loaded. Unlocked bootloader would allow loading any kernel without checking signatures...

I may be wrong, but that's how I understand it. That's also why I have never flashed a full sbf, the no downgrade is an issue and only full sbf can upgrade the bootloader....
[Defy General] LLKS:
How the project goes? It's abandoned? Or there is any chance to unlock the bootloader?

Sorry for my English.
[Defy General] nitrous²:
I'm really sad about this project, its nearly dead. Can't we ask dev's from other forums and devices to help us. I don't want to accept the fact that this project is dead. Please lets work together to unlock this bootloader. This is what xda is all about, isn't IT? Please don't give up the defy and his bootloader! :(
[Defy General] samcripp:
Is only dead if you guys let it die. Us on the atrix, we dint quit, we unlocked the att one, then a week, later we organised the international folks, and within days we had a n international unlock. You guys need to organise, and find out what all do you have at your disposal!
[Defy General] free2live:
Could you be a little more specific on what we need in order to unlock the damned bootloader..

Sent from another planet
[Defy General] nitrous²:
What could we do to organize this project? Who could help us? Who is the person we should get in touch with? Is it possible to make an announce on the portal where we appeal to experienced dev's? We shouldn't give up that easy :(
[Defy General] royale1223:
Wish it was as easy as flashing the atrix sbf and typing fastboot oem unlock. Too bad it ain't..
[Defy General] samcripp:
all tthe info to search the test servers is on th eop, if you guys dont want to do it get me a phone, i wont promise anything but ill def search consistently.
[Defy General] royale1223:
I would like to troll the servers for new updates but motorola don't offer blur services in India. I took a look at the servers,and they seem to be just Linux boxes running httpd. If we could figure out how the phones are authenticated against these servers maybe we could make some script to check updates from this servers regularly from pc. But that needs to be done from a blurred phone. Anybody interested?
[Defy General] nitrous²:
I would do that. I live in Germany, I have Ubuntu 11.1 and Windows 7 running on my PC and the most important thing; you or somebody else should explain me the steps exactly. Another problem is I have to work on call. So Im not permanently available. Another Idea, if there's somebody here in Germany or even in Europe, who thinks that he has enough time to do that but doesn't owns a Defy, I would offer my Defy freely, even if there's a chance to have a dead Defy after this process :D. I won't sue that person :D
[Defy General] free2live:
I live in Poland and I have enough free time as I'm not working at this time...but somebody must explaie the steps

Sent from another planet
[Defy General] nitrous²:
As I can read from your posts, I thought you already own a defy.
[Defy General] free2live:
I do own a defy. I don't need another one. I just want the bootloader unlocked

Sent from another planet
[Defy General] nitrous²:
Oh sry, I've misunderstood you.

So, somebody there who will tell us the steps?
[Defy General] free2live:
Yep. That's the idea. We need someone to explain us how to do that on a computer... I'm willing to spend some time to unlock the ****ing bootloader :-)

Sent from another planet
[HTC Incredible S] akiryu:
Previously i am using ARHD rom and now I would like to know how to turn S back on and how to get rid of alpharev. I already reinstalled the RUU, but alpharev is still there and S is still off. How do I fix this? Thanks!
[HTC Incredible S] exnerjan:
I have the same problem. What did you installed the RUU?
[HTC Incredible S] babyporch:
You can try to reflash the recovery extracted from the RUU.

After reapply the RUU.

If i remeber correctly the problem is CWR
[HTC Incredible S] exnerjan:
I think that it is not in recovery. because recovery is flash to stock. CWR is not there, but the S-OFF is still there, not in HBOOT?
[HTC Incredible S] exnerjan:
I did it. i Have S-on :)
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
And would you tell us how you did it ;) probably about the same as applying the eng hboot, but with the hboot from the rom :)

Since alpharevx changes the hboot, I would imagine its something like that
[HTC Incredible S] exnerjan:
Back to s-on

This procedure is tested only AplhaRevX.

1. Install RUU ROM from: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1033922

2. Downgrade HBOOT

2a. download this file: http://alpharev.nl/vivo_downgrade.img

2aa. Connect your phone to the USB

2b.Turn your phone into FastBoot not to HBOOT!!! (VOL DOWN + POWER Button)

2c. Install over fastboot: cmd: "fastboot flash hboot vivo_downgrade.img" (you must install sdk tools)

2d. still fastboot cmd: fastboot reboot-bootloader

3. Start Installation RUU ROM, but DON´T INSTALL !!!!

3a. go tu C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Temp and at last folder find rom.zip

3b. open it, and copy tu folder sdk hboot and instal the same as step 2c.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
This is sort of a survey that I hope I can get a few responses on.

I'm curious to know what type of download/upload speeds people are getting with their phone.

Please if you could, put it in this format so it's easier to see. Also note to watch your measurments because it's easy to mix kbps with kB/s

Understand that this is a survey so there's no need for you to skew results (although tempting).

Mine:

----- ---- ---- ----

Top Download Speed: 320 kB/s

Average Download Speed: 100 kB/s

Location you're in the most: Hampton Roads, Virginia

ROM: CM7 #106

Kernel: Incredikernel 7/6

Radio: 11.19

---- ---- ---- ----
[Desire HD General] lazboyz:
hi how are you guys...i just bought this phone and have couple of question..first one...my software version is 2.2 is there anyway i can root the phone anybody have the instruction step by step how to root with the files which i needed...second question is when i go software update from my phone its says i have update for 2.3 gingerbread should i update it from phone or manually do it...any help will be appreciate and please reply soon...

thank you
[Desire HD General] Daz555:
If you are planning to root and go for custom roms etc then do not update with any official firmware. Head over to the Development forum for all you need to know on rooting, s-off, eng-off etc.
[Desire HD General] lazboyz:
can i use visiionary tool to root or not....do i have downgrade from 2.2 to what....and then root
[Desire HD General] ProreX:
As mentioned above, go to Development and there you will find detailed stepbystep instructions how to downgrade first and than how to root your phone. Do not install automatic upgrade to 2.3 because it will be harder (not impossible) to root your phone (I learned it hard way after making official upgrade, but my phone is rooted and working well)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] devilsden:
Hey guys Qualcomm has launched Vellamo browser benchmark app for Android

Below is the link

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo

So.... start posting your benchmark scores
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] devilsden:
Vellamo sang my score as 523

X10a

7.1 CM7 K22 J004 + Kernal 3.60 with FPS Fix installed
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bern4d1:
My score is 581

WolfBreak 008.1 with BB67+kernel 14072011
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chaos1986:
My score is 554

Achotjan 2.2.3 v05 zkernel-23062011
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Eustachy_Kapusta:
521

cobrato's miui 1.7.8
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Bladess:
574

WolfBreak 008.1 67BB zKernel14072011