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[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jc8206:
The thunderbolt makes phone calls??!! Holy ****! Why didn't Verizon tell me this when I got the phone!! I had no idea!

And people assuming other people are dumb and don't know as much as they do is the sole reason XDA is going down the crapper.......and fyi no I don't need my tbolt for phone calls, I use my blackberry 9650 for that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Farva0412:
Reply like that r y xda is going to hell
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jc8206:
I'm just trying to fit in
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JBO1018:
Thanks for the tip! Didn't even think to check over there for this.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Farva0412:
I was Just asking a simple Question Since I did not know you had a second phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidVicious:
Guys I'm still working on this!! If MIUI was open source this would have been done a log long time ago. Maybe we should get a petition together and hit the Chinese with it to open it up as that's what Android and Linux is all about, being an open source community.. If anyone seen the post Jamezelle left about what needed to be done then you would see it is a lot of work. Like a lot of work.. When this is finally released it is most likely or almost definitely will be 1.7.15 because of how much needs to be done. It's me and my dude that are working on it right now.. It's frustrating I know.. Believe me I know.. Anyone who knows me knows the only ROM I like is MIUI, and to not be able to have it on the primary phone I use is tough... Keep your heads up and know that it is still being worked on... I'm going to bring some XDA love back too.. I wasn't caught up in any of the BS, but you guys gotta chill with the flaming. It's seriously getting old.. Some people don't totally pay attention and place things in wrong places or even ask stupid questions because well maybe there a n00b, lighten up a little.. Especially if one person replies to a stupid question with an even stupid response that doesn't mean the next 100 posts should be the same thing the first stupid reply was.. Seriously, a lot of people that kill themselves for all you guys out there to have something dope on your phone are just tired of it and turned off by it. This forum and not just XDA are places for people to communicate and help out in a positive manner.. You wanna trash someone exchange phone numbers or meet up and handle it like men, leave it out of the forums nobody cares and you don't look tough or smarter!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crackedvenom2:
we could hit up their twitter again. It worked last time. But idk if thats the way to do it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shawnathan9:
Well said Viscious....well said.. now get back to werx#!!!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 00negative:
This would be nice on TB, keep fighting the good fight devs
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mp3sum:
Agreed, muiu has progressed to the point of being a mature OS in its own right, and using it on the TB would be a privilege. please continue to wait for the ril release and know that a respectable number of users are wanting :)

/thank you
[Thunderbolt Android Development] destroyerbmx:
I really like miui and when you get a working RIL I will donate to you guys for your time, if its at the end of September (can you say bonus time) I will kick you about 100-150.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
im curious why this port is taking soo long when most other phones have no issues porting it? is it the 4g holding you guys up?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dooley19:
I think its because of the simultaneously voice and data on a CDMA phone. The Thunderbolt is the first and only phone that can do that on Verizon. I don't actually know but that's my opinion.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i was just curious is all, no offense to the dev.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
It is the first but not the only all the 4g phones can do it and that is why no 4g phones have miui since the biggest problem is getting the ril working
[Thunderbolt Android Development] captainstarbucs:
Hm? Did MIUI cave in with twitterbombing on another device or something? Because, I mean... if they have a history of giving us what we want if we demand it, we really should try it. What's stopping us? What could it hurt?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ShanDestromp:
I've heard rumors that the MIUI guys are working on securing a platform to ship phones in china with MIUI pre installed a la sense or blur. If that is true then I sincerely doubt that they will open the source code. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try or keep working on the RIL.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dooley19:
The Thunderbolt is the only CDMA 4G phone that has simultaneously Voice and Data over 3G, that's what I was talking about.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dragracekid:
Thunderbolt can't do voice and data over 3g only Lte because it uses 3g for voice and lte for data
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dooley19:
Thunderbolt CAN do Voice and Data over 3G. I have one maybe you should get a Thunderbolt before you start talking because you don't know what you talking about. Do your research
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cynikalJ:
Yep this is true. I was showing a friend here at work that is does it over 3G pretty sweet if you ask me....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] conadg:
thunderbolt does data and voice on 3g
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
yeah but tbh it doesn't do it very well! :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dooley19:
I guess some people have problems with theirs but I tether watching Netflix and be talking at the same time over 3G with no problems
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
It works ok although my 4g drops to 3g when a call comes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dooley19:
I never had 4G its not in my area
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i wish the dev well but i think deep down we all know this may take alot of time and effort. it took the cm team months upon months to even get 4g working on their roms. id say it's a slim chance here but i hope im wrong.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] iceman99393:
Is there no way to get 3g only. Who cares about data over voice. If evo was able to get 3g and that was a "4g" phone. Is there anything that could help here?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
ive been told no.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] infamousxsniper:
No... I think this has been answered so many times on here and Rootzwiki... If one works all of them do, if 1 don't work none of them do... There can't be a 3g only base, or a voice only base... They ALL need to work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
this is why it's taking soo long to port. i wish them luck but i think it's going to be awhile yet folks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jalen156:
I though evo has miui with no 4g I thought
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dooley19:
It does have miui with no 4G
[Thunderbolt Android Development] madzozs:
Read the thread. Basically, its 2 completely different phones with different 4g radios.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] destroyerbmx:
evo is gen 1 hardware vs thunderbolt gen 2, it is completely different and we went over this when the TB came out
[Thunderbolt Android Development] leoingle:
plus one is LTE and the other is WiMax. apples and oranges
[Thunderbolt Android Development] leoingle:
yes, it can. the other LTE phones verizon has cant.

true, TB can. the other Verizon LTE phones cant. i know because i tested them all. plus my gf has the charge. the browser just sits there on a call when you are in 3G area, it tries, but it cant. but when on a call in 4G, it works perfectly.

no, the radio is a all or nothing package deal. in layman terms, the two radio, even though seperate, are too implemented together. at least that is how it was explained to me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] leoingle:
in a nutshell it is this. LTE is not used in China, so they have no intentions to implement it into MIUI. The Chinese wont release the source code for MIUI because they plan to market the own branded MIUI phones. so what is basically having to take place is taking the RIL from an AOSP (probably CM7) and having to pretty much break down the RIL into pieces and weave it into the MIUI rom. Without having the source code, it take a long while to do that. Hence the time it is taking.

from much much research, this is what i have gathered. if somebody that is very into the loop on the working of this sees that i am off in my explanation here, please correct me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rickyrick3513:
This is going to sound stupid, but how do I get a hold of these "Chinese" people with the source code? Who actually has the code. I'm going to talk to them.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] leoingle:
The MIUI Developement team. Here you go. http://www.miui.com

Good Luck!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] idkwhothatis123:
Tb can do voice and data over 3g because it supports svdo (simultaneous voice and data optimization) as opposed to basic evdo. No other phone does that. Funny that Verizon has had this technology up there sleeves all this time while ATT has been talking **** about there network being able to do that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
Or... http://en.miui.com/ hahaha
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xTFGx:
Solo is there an eta for when this will be fully functional?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] madzozs:
no

10 char
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
From Rootzwiki:

"MIUI Android Staff" guy Mark says after M1 release MIUI will go open-source: http://forums.miuiandroid.com/showthread.php?8113-Do-you-think-MIUI-should-go-open-source/page2

M1 is set for pre-order Aug 29 for shipping in October:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Farva0412:
Not to be negative, but thats just wat he thinks. I know who he is, but I am still not holding my breath. I pray I am wrong.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shawnathan9:
This just got interesting! !!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jmotyka:
Not to be mean or anything. But MIUI will come when it comes. There's no point in trolling and "F5ing" every 5 minutes. I really really want MIUI on my Thunderbolt just as bad as everyone else. But i'm not grinding my teeth and pulling hair, and bugging the dev when ever you people please. You are all like preschoolers waiting for recess. As far as it becoming open-source i'm not holding my breath on this one. I don't see a hardware manufacture letting a product be completely open-source.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shawnathan9:
Party Popper ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
Just trying to be optimisticccc! :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Farva0412:
I know I just prepare for worst, hope for best
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dclay89:
They're shipping the MI-ONE with an unlocked bootloader, which means they aren't like most hardware manufacturers. Maybe they'll surprise us all and drop the source.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shawnathan9:
We have nothing to lose but all to gain with this news.

No need to tell the kids that Santa doesn't exist ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
Don't know how much help this will bring but cvpcs just posted on his twitter blog that he's gonna do some work on lite for the Thunderbolt next week which should make things easier don't know how much easier .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jawonder:
If you don't know who CVPCS is, he's the developer who got CM7 to work on the Droid X with a process call 2nd-int and now the Droid X has MIUI and many other Roms with that system . He was working with Layher on CM7 for TBolt for a little while but got busy with personal stuff and now he's back . He did this with the Droid x Lock Bootloader . I have MIUI on my Droid X and it's as smooth as butter .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gammagogeta:
Awesome keep up the good work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jmotyka:
Yea i heard about this. Dont know exactly what the process is, but if its a way to streamline the ril then ill be excited. But i really dont have high hope for MIUI on the Tbolt anytime to soon.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rycheme:
I still have high hopes!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rycheme:
Yay for partially working phone!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] thejosher:
One small step for man...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 2k10MBC300SPT:
I have faith that Ya'll will bust this open and Bless us..Just have that tingly feeling:)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fdp55:
woah! just saw this and it looks very good, keep up the good work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yamaha83:
im sooooo excited!! kepp up the good work!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Turd Furguson:
Bump for the status change. Partial phone working according to the title @ 8:51PM EST.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PlankLongBeard:
One Giant Leap for Droid Kind :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrcookjr:
I can't wait until this I'd done!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ampinc:
What partially working making phone calls or data anyways this rom is awesome keepup the good work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] anourack:
What happened to this Rom?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i think its going to be damn hard to get finished for the tbolt. just my two cents.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yamaha83:
ya... i hope this doesnt turn out like the sense rom did for the OG droid...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] SomeGuyDude:
He's still working on That Other Forum. There's a couple of people working on it, and it's gonna happen. Just not soon.

Remember if we expect to have MIUI on ANY of Verizon's 4G phones, the TBolt is gonna be the first.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
maybe it will be a xmas surprise..... :eek:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] destroyerbmx:
They got partial phone so it shouldnt be that far off, he normally does weekly builds and this week has not dropped yet, I am suspecting he is holding off until they get phone/data working. They did it with cm7 so its physically possible.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fixxxer2008:
its going to be awhile man.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] MONKY_1:
I played with this rom for 36 mins and damn. It was a pain go back to CM7. I forgot how amazing miui is (: your doing a great job you can do it!!!:D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Picolini:
Keep up the good work. I'll be watching for a stable/fully capable ROM! :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] klisp:
Subscribed...Thank you for your work ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] JoeyDVDZ:
So I took a look at this MIUI... I LOVE the way it works on my OG Droid, wish wish wish I could get the phone working here on my bolt. If only that worked, I'd keep the ROM as my DD. Please tell me how to get the phone working?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] robotsforeveryone:
Still patiently waiting. I just got the Bionic and handed over my Bamf'd Thunderbolt to my wife. She gave her MIUI'd DInc to our son. She was pretty bummed out. So I wait and hope that you can get MIUI to play nice with our 4G phones.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] schwab16:
I want this so badly! i made a youtube vid with MIUI on my Tbolt, its running fast, and it is running off bootmanager and i have a screen recording app running. It is just an overview of miui. you guys should check it out!

here is the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-K44TqXCA

i can't wait till it gets working
[Thunderbolt Android Development] smoother2010:
seems to have been a long time since the OP has given an update. i hope that doesn't mean he has given up as id love to have miui. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tekhna:
He, like most of the Thunderbolt dev community, posts at rootzwiki now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] smoother2010:
oh, whys that? did he give an update there?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] supermandroid:
This would be awesome! Kudos to the devs foe all their hard work!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
Can't wait
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
Very fast thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kama45:
Best day of my life.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] WormDoes:
That's incredibly depressing
[Thunderbolt Android Development] thejosher:
Good luck guys. If this drops, I'll finally be happy with my Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] je2345:
Same here. As long as this drops prior to pre3 coming out I will be very happy
[Thunderbolt Android Development] icanhazdroid:
You guys will be my hero once this works
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrchambo:
Hallelujah!

jc
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bL33d:
I dont see this happening anytime soon probably wont see miui till after i get a diffrent phone, but good luck i got $20 ready for donation if u get it working.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Stoney 666:
I WAS EXCITED TILL I SAW THIS.....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] idkwhothatis123:
Lol yeah I saw that. My thoughts exactly.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
i saw that,too,and i wouldnt really let that discourge you. if im understanding the other correctly,this is a port,where the other is being built from source(tho maybe im wrong there). maybe the port will be able to get ril hacked together and working a lil easier than the other using cm7/omfgb ril.

this is also newer,the other is a froyo build. even if these are both ports,this one has sound,a working camera,and gps. it really is ready to go when the radio works..

im not sure why jamzelle has all the negativity towards the broken builds,maybe theres more to it we arent seeing. i played with this one,it works well,nothing wrong with giving the fans a preview if you ask me. if these threads werent here people would be *****ing that there werent any broken builds to play with ;)

if everyone works together thats involved with both builds, it should hopefully happen that much faster.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tekhna:
Forgive my ignorance, but why can't the CM7 RIL be used? It mostly works.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Noremacam:
Because miui is closed source making it difficult to "implant" in the rom.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 2k10MBC300SPT:
Btw, what radio do we use for this. Am assuming the mr2 (2.5 or 2.75)!

Sent from my 4G ThundaBolt,1.6Ghz Processor w/an XDA App!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
lol,use whatever youre on,it doesnt work anyway :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 2k10MBC300SPT:
I guess that's true huh...didn't think about that..lol

Sent from my 4G ThundaBolt,1.6Ghz Processor w/an XDA App!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xkingofgodzx:
Vicious your still with this beautiful phone! good to see. I haven't talked to you in a while. This build is going to be sick for MIUI fans. Its not really for me, tried it on my Inc, but to everyone interested, Vicious is going to take good care of this build.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DroidVicious:
I handled the port and I.have someone else handling the ril. The port was the easy part and for those who tested and found the front facing camera wasn't working it has already been fixed. As far as there being "2 broken ass MIUI builds out" who cares... I thought Jamezelle.was better then that? He's got his build which I had the pleasure of testing and we have ours. I put it out there so everyone knows that it has not been forgotten.. To be honest n_i_x pretty much stated he was done with it for now and he was using the Inc 2, and Jamezelle has been hammered with school stuff. So who is left?? Doesn't sound like these guys are doing anything... This is not a shot at them either, in fact I inquired with in with some questions and even told both of them depending on where it goes we should all get in together.. This ain't a race to who puts it out 1st either its to put it out so its out so we have what we want.. So people wanna hate or flame feel free to! We are making progress, case closed!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ibsk8:
Seriously?

20 days with no update and you think that's a "long time".

I'm sure they've made so head way, but if they release anything I'm sure you'd complain it didn't work properly.

It'll happen when. It does, how much work would you have gotten done without being paid?

I bet dv is saying I haven't gotten a donation in 4 months........

Give the Guy some monetary motivation.

Had a bad day so you get a little bit of it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] moosez3:
Wow that sucks DV! I'm sorry to hear, Im not rich, but Ill send a lil donation your way, hopefully it helps! Happy Birthday man!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Epicardium:
On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that the RIL will ever work? Only asking because I will either keep my thunderbolt or my DX2. I'm thinking the DX2 is a few months from having MIUI, at best. If I thought the Thunderbolt would get there sooner then that would make my decision. Would choose the DX, but can't stand the camera quality. Anyway, thanks for the efforts. Insight is appreciated. .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] idkwhothatis123:
Ril is already working. The whole point of ril is for it to recognize the radio to accept frequencies, that way you can make calls. The problem here is when ril got figured out, SMS/mms broke(repetitive fc's), there is 0 audio (which he may have fixed...), and data is shot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johnny quest:
I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune DV, this is when your heart and mind gets tested. This is where you get stronger. I'll pray for you brother.

On the other note, I have a question; how come these roms are only about 80 something MB? and other roms are in the 2-3 hundreds MB?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jerrycycle:
Sense rom are always larger because of the bloatware, extra system included widgets, nor zip align and optimized.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Epicardium:
Ok, thanks for the insight. The OP says that he does have audio working in the latest build, so that's good to hear. I know there are some intricacies with getting the 4G radio to work, but the EVO 4G has functional MIUI I think, so that raises my hopes a bit for a functional Thunderbolt.

To the OP....is there any way I can help out? I have a couple of phone, and I can afford to do trial and error stuff on my TB while using one of my other phones. Anything I can do to help get this thing working, just let me know.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] madzozs:
Completely different phones with different radios. Wimax and LTE are completely different.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tifford:
I don't believe MIUI is working on any LTE phones currently. I don't know jack about developing, but could it be a radio development issue more than a rom development issue?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mickrg123:
I just downloaded trying to get a MIUI ROM for TB. Is this a working ROM, I cant get service or access to all apps.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bill3508:
I think he had wifi working, but no carrier signal.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] crackedvenom2:
Im gonna be that douche and say it. Did you even read the first post?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ibsk8:
I believe the default in the most recent version has su access set to no. You have to change it to allow in the app.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dopediculous:
Yeah I read that. Tried everything. Loooked all through SU, But couldn't find anything about allowing ish.... lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johnny quest:
ok people lets take it easy. Yes there was a little racism there. You guys got to watch what you're writing on these posts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] swimminsurfer256:
Ha. I see what you did there.. not sure whether it was purposeful or not.... :p