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[General Topics] orkillakilla:
It seems mister Steve Jobs is very scared of Android, as I'm sure your all aware.

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...es-patents-appea/&category=classic&postPage=1

Apple continues to target the major Android handset manufacturers. Unfortunately it seems HTC lost its battle with Steve for now, with Samsung also under fire.

Does Apple really think they can slow down Android enough to keep its precious iPhone on top? Not likely. I don't think showing fear is good for the company.

Apple continues to rely on its brand name's reputation, instead of doing something truely innovative (the iPhone was innovative... WAS. The iPad was innovative as well, but lets just say the Xoom beats the crap out of it). Now the iPhone is small screened and slow (network and CPU wise) compaired to any high-end Android device.

Apple is only buying time. Sooner or later, the iPhone fad will come to an end, much like Facebooks current plight.

Feel free to give your input.

*NOTICE* These are my personal opinion. If you like the iPhone or Apple for that matter, then more power to you. Apple makes good products, expensive as they are. Flaming is not necessary.

Sent from my HTC Cyanogenbolt
[General Topics] aFo3262:
"All Things D is reporting that the two patents in question are 5,946,647 and 6,343,263, the former of which is said to be "fundamental to Android."

Any ideas?
[General Topics] Gusar321:
Isn't the Xoom some half-finished product, both software and hardware-wise?

Other than that, I fully agree with your post - Apple is afraid. Very afraid. They're not the only ones though, Microsoft is as well. That's why they're both resorting to patent litigation. While at the same time Apple is totally copying Android's notification dropdown. Hypocrisy at it's best.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
The ones who are really afraid? The ones who keep talkin' smack about Apple and MS. Otherwise they would sit back and watch it.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
Yes, we're talking out of fear, it's totally not about calling companies out on their crap. Sure. LOL
[General Topics] mark7568:
Totally agree bother! Didn't Microsoft get in trouble for forcing there software into pcs? Someone got paid off for win this last one with HTC. I think its totally against our rights to hold back technology for the gain of one. Plus the iphone is old school. Its time to move on to better pastures Mr jobs! Remember how technology was for apple before the iphone came out or the ipod? Apple sucked the big one! I think there running scared cause android is its competition! to bad,we the people have a right to choose!

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[General Topics] jags_the1:
hmm another android vs apple thread...hmm.. lost count on the numbers now
[General Topics] orkillakilla:
Hmm... another pointless post. Lost count on the number now...

If you don't want to add to the discussion, or don't like the fact that there are many of these threads, simply don't read it.

Has far as the Xoom goes, I've only read good things about it, and that it's at least on the same level as the iPad. I haven't played around on one though, so I can't say for sure.

It seems Microsoft and Apple, being the "old dogs" in the computer/tech/smartphone world, have their tails between their legs, acting like a chihuahua showing it's teeth at a pit bull...
[General Topics] Tone_:
I don't think its Apple with the problems.. check out some snippets from the link below:

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/07/itc-judge-finds-htc-in-infringement-of.html

ITC judge finds HTC in infringement of two Apple patents

Google's Android mobile operating system is in serious trouble:

Patents appear to be at the core of Android and are likely infringed by all Android devices

I have looked at those patents before and they appear to be very fundamental. They are very likely to be infringed by code that is at the core of Android.

This could in a worst-case scenario result in an import ban against many or even all Android-based HTC products in the U.S. market.

In a slightly less negative scenario, HTC might have to remove certain functionality from its products, and that could result in a significant or even substantial degradation of the quality of those devices.

Since those patents don't appear to relate to HTC's own extensions of Android but to Android itself, they may affect all of the other makers of Android-based devices. Apple could soon be in a strong position to obtain import bans against dozens of device makers.

Apple unlikely to grant a license -- but might make damages claims

Android is also under fire in dozens of federal lawsuits. By my count, there are 49 Android-related infringement suits (federal and ITC). A very prominent one is Oracle's lawsuit against Google, and the judge presiding over that case has raised very serious questions about the possibility of Google's intentional infringement of Java-related intellectual property.
[General Topics] orkillakilla:
As far as HTC goes, they are likely to settle with Apple, paying them god knows how much money, if Apple even accepts an offer like that.

I have read some about the Oracle case, but I haven't really read all about it yet. I'll definitely give that a look.

Also, I would like to thank you for making a productive post that isn't negative, and that actually adds to this discussion.
[General Topics] sleeperzzz:
Well it's not really a surprise here. Every software dev does this kind of thing. They ask patents on certain elements that they know would slow down or make another product less appealing.

Otherwise spending thousands of dollars on patents would be kinda pointless.

And like MS did and does it sues those that so called took there patent without asking or paying. I don't see anything new here. Sure it's again the big companies Apple vs Android but heck those are the 2 biggest players for home usage.

The point of all these lawsuits is:

Try and get money from competition even banning devices

Showcase all features you have but others can't get

Advertise

And for the other company sympathy. Besides ads even if they are bad are always good for sales

And a good lawyer stretches it till it either expires or till they invent something better.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
HTC bought S3 recently and Apple has been found infringing on S3 patents. This stupid game works both ways. So there may not be a one-way settlement, but instead a cross-licensing deal.

@Tone_: Apple resorting to patent litigation is because it is them with a problem. Android's growth is much faster than iOS's. And Apple doesn't like that.

Also, it begins, the backlash because of this software patent stupidity: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2011/jul/15/app-developers-withdraw-us-patents <- It's app developers for now, but I'm really, really waiting for the day when hardware makers simply pull out of the US market. Let the US companies sue each other into oblivion, while the saner parts of the world flourish in actually moving things forward.
[General Topics] Tone_:
HTC bought out the rest of S3 and apple infringed them so who knows, would most likely be other Android manufactures that cop it..

http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/7/4/apple-found-guilty-s3-patent-infringement/
[General Topics] Tone_:
They say there is no smoke without fire also a lot of people buying Android probably could not afford or do not want iphones so Apple probably aren't that worried as its a sale they would not have made.
[General Topics] orkillakilla:
That's not necessarly true. Before Android, if you wanted a smart phone, you either got a WMP, crapberry, or an iPhone. Most people probably wouldn't want a windows phone. Blackberries were good, but moslty for business people. That leaves iPhone. If Android weren't in the picture, you can bet a lot of people would be getting iPhones.

Sent from my HTC Cyanogenbolt
[General Topics] Tone_:
True but I would say wanting rather than getting at the time they were expensive, still are in comparison. All Android sales are not sales lost to Apple as I alluded to earlier.

Apple are probably more bothered about all the taglines the iworshipers love to hear that they can no longer use..
[General Topics] Jmatch:
Isn't another selling point of Android the screen size of some devices? I mean alot of people can't type or anything on the iPhones tiny screen
[General Topics] jdawglx01:
I remember going to the Apple store when the iPhone came out to try it. I couldn't type with my sausage thumbs. So I was banned to sliders and flippers until the newer 4.3 Android phones. And now Apple winning against HTC... WTF. Go to hell Apple. I'd rather reactivate my VX8300 than buy a iTurd.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
I remember when the iPhone first came out. The only smartphones we had were low-quality, low-tech devices with resistive, un-finger friendly LCDs. The best we had was Treos or other stuff. There were no smartphones with all the tech the iPhone employed at that time. When the iPhone came out, it included all that futuristic tech we all dreamed of but could never get. It was like going from vinyl records to CDs. For you young-uns, that was a huge and exciting step.

The iPhone opened up a whole new world. Here in the US, companies were either too scared or too lazy to make an effort to incorporate solid reliability and high-tech into a smartphone. Then comes Apple. They not only made a world record phone, but made it genuinely reliable and usable. Sure...other companies had smartphones. But they didn't have the simplicity and cleanness and reliability or contain all of the high-end hardware the iPhone contained. Apple did for us consumers what the rest of the industry at that time did not want to do: make a fully developed and reliable smartphone that they (Apple engineers) wanted to use. Apple made a phone that they, themselves, wanted. You don't get that anywhere else in industry. Companies only make what their bean counter, lawyers, committees or shareholders want them to make. The other companies are only interested in putting out just barely good-enough products that will sell. Apple basically said to hell with the committees, lawyers, bean counters and made what they wanted to make. *THAT* is why the iPhone became a world-wide phenomenon. When a company makes something you truly want and wish a company would make, it will sell wildly and take over the world.

That is Apple. The company that did us all good and right and now, because other companies are copying Apple's success, and spreading lies and mis-information about Apple, people hate Apple. Apple gave us all what no other company had the stones to give us. And people are hating them for it. People look at all the smartphones we have now and say Apple's stuff is ****. But they never stop...or are too young to realize...that before the iPhone, the only thing we had was nothing like or as good as an iPhone.
[General Topics] orkillakilla:
Yes, Apple opened the doors to the modern smartphone, but if it wasn't them, someone else would have.

As for Apple as a company, the ONLY thing they did right was the iPhone/pod/pad. Their computers were crappy as hell (WERE). They have done better with computers recently, though not for the price in my opinion. I don't necessarily hate apple, I just think most if their products are way too expensive for my taste (mainly their computers).

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[General Topics] hungry81:
cool story bro. You could just about go and re read your post substituting apple and iphone for IBM and simon. Smartphones were slowly gaining in use (business and personal) before apple, and would not have died without it. Its true the developmental path would have taken a different track and we might not have seen glass capacitive screens for a while longer (oh noes) but smartphones were advancing (CPU, ram, storage, data transfer, gps and sony had started puting acceleromiters in their devices). So we would not be behind really.

Apple does deserve credit for the newton however. although it was a crap pda it did show there was interest in ultra mobile computing and caused other companies to release their own better devices.

Anyway The point is you cannot laud one single company for where we are today, Jerking off apple like you did above is not only nauseating it's also borderline propaganda.
[General Topics] psijac:
Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone. How much does Apple owe him for stealing his idea? Just because someone contributed something to humanity doesn't mean they get to own it forever.
[General Topics] whatever5:
I never liked the iphone because of its tiny screen size, I'm 5"11 and I have big hands and I find it difficult to type on my vibrants 4 inch screen and secondly the majority of people who I've seen have iphone 4's are female because on average they have smaller hands
[General Topics] MartyLK:
That's a valid point. But that isn't what this is about. It's about the truth. I don't care if other companies use Apple's stuff. That's between them and Apple. And I have my fair share of other company's products. The issue is who gets credit for the smartphone as it is today...with the type of smartphones we have...the ones with all this goodness we all love and adore. Some people would have us all believe these other companies had iPhone type smartphones back in the 1800s if they could get anyone to believe them. When I read about someone saying Apple didn't invent the current market, I'm inclined to speak up. I was there. I know what was in the market. If there was a mass-market (not niche-market) iPhone type smartphone in existence, I would have known about it and owned it.

All I'm saying is that the technology the iPhone employed might have been around, and it might have been in some phones as portions of the tech, but it wasn't all combined into one reliable smartphone. And until it was, the market didn't exist. You can have smartphone B that has 90% of what the iPhone had but lacked a capacitive, hard-surface, display and it still wouldn't count. And that is clear now, because after the iPhone, the market went straight from using resistive tech to the same iPhone-type capacitive tech. There are still companies using resistive tech...for those of you who might want to gig me on that point. But the majority of the market is in what the iPhone had.

My position? I hope HTC, Google, Samsung and all of them get to continue to sell their products here. I absolutely love them. I especially love Google's business model and feel Google needs to continue. And I hope they do. The people in charge at Google are passive, gentle types...as far as I'm aware...who care about humanity. I may be disillusioned on that, I don't know. But it's the perception I have of Google.
[General Topics] orkillakilla:
I agree. If only these companies could get over his much profit they make, and try to work together to further the technology. Hell we would have flying cars, lightspeed space travel, and God knows what else if profits didn't matter.

But thatsbthe way the world is. Its all about making money, and it always will be.

Sent from my HTC Cyanogenbolt
[General Topics] arikaru:
I think that when the Nexus Prime comes out, Apple will be totally screwed. Android 4.0 vs iOS 5.0- What I've seen of the NP and the IP5, I already prefer Ice Cream Sandwich.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
From what I've seen of iOS5, I still prefer Gingerbread. I saw an Apple keynote of iOS5 and it still looks boring as hell. It no doubt will be better than any other iOS before it. But still boring. Gingerbread has been the best OS Google has yet put out for Android.

Don't get me wrong, when iOS first appeared on the first iPhone, it was the absolute best mobile OS ever released to humanity. I friggin loved it. But Android and WP7 has me spoiled.
[General Topics] hungry81:
Idealistic. without profits there would be no motivation for people to do anything much but subsitance farming. without profits there would be no mass production of anything cause there would be no benefit for me to make anything for you. Profits and competition drive innovation.
[General Topics] orkillakilla:
I understand that. My point is that while it drives innovation, at times is also hinders it.

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[General Topics] Gusar321:
You do realize that software patents are a very new concept and that the tech industry has been thriving *a lot* before they came into play? Software patents are not accelerating the pace of tech advancement, they're hindering it, because of the games patent trolls are playing. And because of the games of Apple and Microsoft, who are not really patent trolls because they do create actual products too, but still some of their business practices are despicable, patent litigation being the prime example.

And as for MartyLK, he is an amazing example of the Apple RDS.
[General Topics] dadroidda:
I can only see the android gaining lots of territory in the smart phone battle.
[General Topics] hungry81:
Cant argue with that patent system is broken. Its used to kill competition instead of protect innovators
[General Topics] jodelol:
It's always good to have Apple nearby. They are innovative enough to improve and discover new things. We'll see what their next steps are.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
If I could get Apple to pay me for my honest nature, I would be happy. I'd have an income, then. Never rush to judgement about anyone. If you do, you may discover you have persecuted an innocent person. Try not to determine a person's whole character based on a handful of words. You wouldn't want people to do that to you.

If you don't give a poop about truth, too bad for you.
[General Topics] pelopor:
it's just business.. plain and simple. nothing more.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
I give a poop about truth. I don't give a poop about distorted reality.

Yes, and because of that, we should just take it. Like good little mindless drones. I know you weren't necessarily implying that, but many people with such a view are implying it.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
And you don't give a **** about decency either. Defame and try to make trouble for the innocent all because they don't side with you in you cult'ish hate for Apple...
[General Topics] Gusar321:
And what is you labeling me a cultist hater, if not defamation?
[General Topics] Jeegsawk:
I read those patents text. In my opinion they are so generic they could apply to any software making queries to a database. I an trying to find out what patent office accepted that application, probably I could get the wheel patented.
[General Topics] MartyLK:
See! See how it feels?? You did it to me without even a care or concern. But when someone does it to you, then you wake up.
[General Topics] inoskedu8o8:
This is very true. Competition is the main reason we have advancements.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
That's the game you were playing? Holy eff!

Are you so insecure that you can't take a bit of criticism? Valid criticism I might add.

Oh, and I didn't feel "insulted" or anything by your post, I was laughing, and just pointing out what I thought was hypocrisy - now I see it wasn't, it was some sort of lame game.
[General Topics] xaccers:
I remember the first iphones, and the technology they lacked. Send a file to someone via bluetooth? Use as a USB hard drive? Record a video? Expand the storage? 3G network? Cut and paste? Exchange support? Nah.

So other than the 40 year old tech of the screen, what "futuristic" tech did it have?
[General Topics] madnish30:
This thread can NEVER exist with civil posting, too conflicting a topic - and some posts already crossed the line.

Thread closed.
[Off-topic] shanghei:
So I saw this groupon

http://www.groupon.com/deals/voxcom-minneapolis

Its a crappy epad probly worth 70$ bucks selling for $248

The retailer is a genius because so far he has sold over 30 and by the time it ends he would have sold probably more.

But doing the math, groupon makes 30% commission, and lets say he sells 40, he can then buy those 40 in bulk for probably $50 each making $100 profit each chinese tablet he sells. Lets assume he sells 40, thats 4 grand for a few hours of work.

The funniest part is that it says it can be upgraded to Honeycomb and a groupon employee even says it can.

Amazing.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] just4747:
I feel like this is something that is an issue in some third party launchers, but this is constantly happening in the leaked TouchWiz Honeycomb build for the Tab 10.1. I think this was happening to me before on the stock OS as well. I am not using ADW or LPP, just home launcher, and even if I am not rotating the display, the widgets and icons are always reloading/redrawing when I come back to it from an app. WHY??

I see no options or settings relating to this and I have done nothing to cause it.

Anyone else having this issue?? It happens to me like 7 out of 10 times when reverting to the homescreens.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonygoes:
I'm seeing the same thing on an Epic running ACS (Froyo). It tends to happen when I rotate the home screen. I've had the phone about 3 weeks - I only noticed it happening within the past week or so. It may have had something to do with an app I installed, but I have no idea what. Any ideas anybody?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djchad72:
Happening on the pre touchwiz stock rom. I use ADW and Stock Launcher. I also can't seem to make the default home setting start set. I repeatedly get prompted to choose a home screen when. K press HOME.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonygoes:
I think my issue may just be a performance problem with Touchwiz when there are a lot of icons in the home screens. If I clear the data for TwLauncher, it rotates pretty quickly. As I add my icons back, it gradually gets slower. Once I have them all back (I have about 70 icons), it takes 15-20 seconds to redraw. LauncherPro doesn't seem to have that problem, so I'll just use that for a launcher instead.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickykemp:
hi,

i'm having an issue with the

XWKF4 Stock Kernel:

kernal.

whenever i download it, it is showing as a .exe file, and when i extract it with 7zip i get an error.

what do i need to do to get this to a .tar file?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harolds:
Probably a zip exe. So execute it and it will unzip.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] gil80:
Hi.

is there a free replacement for samsung all share app?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] snapper.fishes:
What do you mean ? Allshare is free.

knowledge is Power. Guard it well.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] markdj57:
Eye con?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] gil80:
cant work on MIUI
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] keulieminogue:
I use imediashare! Its awesome
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] gil80:
imediashare gives FC on MIUI
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] azzledazzle:
use gmote,

once set up it does exactly what you need. it took me ages to find a similar app like all share for MIUI, i tried loads and loads of different ones, but they were all incompatible or didnt work well

but i found gmote and now all is good :D try it, its also free !!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] apolloms:
So I just took my tab out of the box and it came unlocked....does this mean all i need to do is root it?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] GetPatriotized:
I know the when you hold the home button,it works but is there a fix for this? Did Gameloft release an update?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] shotgunfool:
Not Yet.

10char.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CoconutWillie:
I don't have that problem.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Sgt-Hartley:
Which version app and sd data are you using?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] thatsupnow:
Yea how your so special?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CoconutWillie:
I have version 3.2.8.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] thatsupnow:
I have the same one too 3.2.8 and it won't work unless the home button is long pressed
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] GetPatriotized:
I just got an update!

175mb download

FIXES THE FORCE CLOSE ERRORS! :D

but apparently the touchpads are f*cked! I was using the D-PAD and TOUCHSCREEN ! O.O