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[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
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Friends, i know what Download Mode is. And i tell you this is not the case. The phone was in recovery mode and then, all of a sudden an image appeared: and that image is not download mode. It's a little phone and a pc connected together by a small triangle orange with an "!" in it. I repeat, it's not in download mode.

If i pull out the battery the phone shuts down. Then i put the battery back in, start the phone in download mode :Vol down+Home+Lock and it sais :Vol Down-Restart the phone or Vol Up- Enter Down Mode. If i press vol down the phone shows that irritating image again(with the phone and the pc) and if i press vol up it enters download mode...

The firmware is official... Will i need a USB Jig to bring back my phone to life ?

PS: I have the latest drivers, Any Kies process has been stoped in Task Manager before the update and i followed step-by-step guides to update it. I tried 2.3.3 KE7, 2.3.4 KG1 and Lit'ning ROM. Neither would work for me, update failed at all was shown...

I'm really desperate...
[Galaxy S II General] daleski75:
Can you take a photo of what you are seeing?
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
this is it...
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
That is also download mode. So your phone isnt bricked. If you connect your phone to the pc, stop kies from running, and then run odin, does the square under id:com turn yellow?

like this:
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
what should i do ? Should i try again with odin ?

In the PDA Section What should i put in ? WHat's the latest firmware...

LE: Yes that square turns yellow and it sais added but after a few seconds the whole thing freezes... No progress bar, nothing...
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
The thing to do is to follow the directions in Intratechs thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1075278.

From Intratechs opening post:

"1. Just download the firmware version you want from above and extract the .tar file in the archive and save it somewhere

2. Reboot your phone to download mode.(Ignore, your phone is already in download mode, )

To get download mode shut down the device. After it shuts off completely simultaneously press the Down volume key+ Home button + press the power button .

You should see a warning asking you to press volume up if you want to continue or volume down to cancel, press volume up. You are now in download mode!(again ignore, you are already in download mode.)

3. Start Odin

4. Click on the PDA button and browse to the .tar file that you extracted in step 1

If the package has more than one .tar archive then they will be labelled with PDA, Phone/Modem and CSC. Just put them in the corresponding section of Odin

5. DO NOT PUT .PIT FILE AND DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TICK REPARTITION.

6. Connect the USB cable and wait for the ID:COM section to turn yellow

7. Click start to flash

8. Do not disconnect the cable or turn off the device, it will reboot when it finishes. "
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
So Odin freezes?
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
<ID:0/005> Added!!

<ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5)..

<ID:0/005> File analysis..

<ID:0/005> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/005> Initialzation..

<ID:0/005> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/005> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/005> boot.bin

<ID:0/005> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/005>

<ID:0/005> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

Yes it freezes or it sais this(see above)
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
I maybe accidently have ticked repartition... is this a dead end ?
[Galaxy S II General] daleski75:
Try uninstalling kies AND the usb drivers then install them again and try once more.

Do you have access to another PC?

Are you using the official samsung usb cable?
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
So i should uninstall kies and then try again with odin? Yes i use the official Samsung USB Cable...
[Galaxy S II General] daleski75:
Just saw your post about clicking repartition are you sure you done this?

If you have then you need a .pit file as per intratech's notes on the dev forum

.PIT refers to the partition information table you only need it if you screw up your partition table or if the firmware specifically requires it because of a change in the partition table layout. It's very likely you may never have to use this.

I think you might need to flash the csc, pda, pit and everything else separately.

Can some others confirm this?
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
I kinda trusted this site, this is where i got the instructions...

http://www.dkszone.net/install-android-2.3.4-xxkg1-samsung-galaxy-s-ii
[Galaxy S II General] daleski75:
Did you try to flash 2.3.4 with that guide or 2.3.3?
[Galaxy S II General] TudorMondialul:
2.3.4 i tried...
[Galaxy S II General] daleski75:
I don't think you have bricked your phone although you might of wrecked your partition table.
[Galaxy S II General] Jecht:
I also read something about this here:

theandroidsoul.com/download-and-install-xxkg1-android-2-3-4-firmwarerom-for-galaxy-s2-ii-i9100/ (Can't link it..)

On step 13 it says what to do with the .PIT file.

About the .pit file (one you found in step 2.4). The .pit file re-partitions the phone’s internal memory space. You don’t need it often, that’s why we don’t use it generally. But if you are unable to flash the XXKG1 ROM successfully, you can try the whole process again but using the .pit file too this time. Important: When you use .pit file (ever!) you need to tick the Re-Partition checkbox too (which wasn’t the case earlier – check step 8 when we kept it un-ticked). So, if you are flashing the XXKG1 again, select the .pit file too (from step 2.4 ) in the PIT Tab together with all other files as said in step 9. Then, make sure the Re-Partition button is ticked too along with the Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time checkboxes — that is, all three checkboxes will be ticked if you use the .pit file.

In my opinion it's an idea to try that, but you might want to wait for someone who has experience with this.
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
Hello everyone, I'm writing this because lately there has been a lot of turmoil in this section. People are leaving, upset with xda, posting off topic like crazy and showing hostility like I've never seen here before. I really wanna help make this section better as this is my main device and hate seeing it like this. I try and do what I can, delete off topic/flaming posts, move threads to the proper sections and so on but would love some input from the users here to make this section better for everyone. Granted I'm not the only mod here but this will benefit all of us so here's what I'm asking. If you see something you think we can improve on post it here. If a user is rude, flaming and going off topic pm me or another mod here or report it. I will do my best to address anything posted here. Granted I can't do anything about xda rules as they are in place for a reason but I can always bring up suggestions to the other mods and the admins. I really wanna work with everyone here so please suggest away. Off topic posts, flaming, rude comments will not be tolerated in this thread.

Thanks,

Ryan
[Thunderbolt General] xebryus:
I commend you. I could imagine your task at hand is like trying to clean up the streets of St Louis by yourself. It has become anarchy here, just people running their mouth with no consequence. You deleted one of my posts because it became off topic, I was actually happy, because it was deserved.

My only suggestion is consequence. I know it's hard to really "punish" someone over the internet, but any kind of action should be taken to breaking the rules.

Thanks for taking your time just to read post over post, just to see if people are following rules.
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
Thanks for taking the time to respond! Believe me there will be consequences if people break forum rules and I'm making a personal commitment to be extremely active here and do everything I can to make it better for everyone. ;)
[Thunderbolt General] xebryus:
You're welcome. See you around
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
I think one of the problems that has gotten worse lately is the way new members are treated. Please see here from today:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1166265

I understand about searching, etc, and repetitive threads, but there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things and too many members here have started acting unacceptably to new members imo. It sets a tone and then the new members act the same way and the problem snowballs on itself and we end up with a forum of everyone being rude to one another.

anyway just my opinion and thanks for your efforts in cleaning things up :)
[Thunderbolt General] ScoobarSTI:
One of the biggest problems I have seen around Tbolt forums, is the fact that developers bust their asses for us and MANY people act as if it's a Dev's privilege for us to be using their Roms and what ever else. People should be thankful we get all these nice Roms and themes and what ever else for FREE. The other big problem I see is people not searching I've asked quite a few questions but MANY more have been answered just by using the search feature.

I know we have stickys but I think a big Noob sticky would help cut out some of the mess/easily answered questions.
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
VERY unacceptable, thanks for pointing out thread it has been cleaned and closed. We were all newbies at one point and those replies are the exact thing I'm trying to rid xda of. Thanks for the help!
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
Sadly that's the way it has always been, there are always those users who are on here to simply tear people down and complain. Maybe its boredom but its something that has always bothered me as well. Not sure there's much anyone can do about it however, unless they are flaming and posting rude comments that's when the mods can do their thing. If enough complaints are reported about certain users then action is also justified so don't be afraid to let us know.

I'm gonna improve the sticky I put up in the dev section to include more info for noobs and see if that helps.
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
No problem man, and I'm not trying to rat people out either. :) I just wanted to show an example of what has been going on. A lot of members here(even me included at times I'm sure) have been acting like this is our forum instead of us all acting like guests here and treating others as guests as well.
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
It's so hard to clean things up and police them, what one person feels should be asked in a thread for a specific ROM another person feels should be in the "general" or Q&A section.

If I'm having a "general" (ie battery, GPS, etc.) issue after I flash a ROM I'm going to look to that ROM's thread for answers - I find that if I post something in the 'general' forum about a specific ROM I get all kinds of answers from folks running different ROMs or that are not rooted and, while I appreciate the help, I don't think that somebody is as able to help unless they are on that particular s/ware. Isn't battery life and/or GPS a development issue if a lot of people are having that problem? Spin off to a new thread, reduce clutter, and post a link to the thread in the OP. (then you can at least chastise somebody if the info is in the first post which should ALWAYS be read in its entirety). :-)

I think it would be nice if a developer would put in the OP a couple links to specific threads that have been started that are talking about specific issues w/a specific ROM. Right now the CM7 development thread has spawned a couple different troubleshooting threads, but there is no link in the OP to those.

On one of my previous ROMs the OP had all kinds of links to help threads and FAQ, etc.

I also think that the old "if you can't say something nice...." saying should be rule #1 - it would save a LOT of issues when somebody chimes in and says "how do I.....?" and somebody else responds with "why don't you try reading/searching, etc." - why can't they just take the same amount of energy they used typing that snide comment and instead point in a helpful direction?

I understand the frustration, I too get tired of the same Q's being asked over and over again but I've also failed at the "search" on the site and had to have people guide me, especially when it's something I'm new to, like Netflix, etc.

Now I'm just rambling......:D
[Thunderbolt General] wiredmonkey:
I really doubt it will.
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
I can see what everyone is saying. I've been involved with Android phones since day one and have been active on several boards for many years now.

I was with T-Mobile for over 15 years and am a Pillar on their boards, so I've spent alot of time there.

I've used XDA for some time now with the G1, G2, Cliq, MyTouch, etc.

When I got the Thunderbolt, I came to this forum and I noticed a very different "air" about this forum as others had pointed out. I found it kinda odd since the phone was so new.

One thing that I did notice was that "moderation" (and I know everyone is busy around here) is not as, for lack of a better word..."swift" around here. On most other boards I am on (and also ran), rules violations were not tolerated and handled very quickly with "Time outs" being given out to minor offenders and outright bans given to major offenders.

That being said, as other have said, unless there is a consequence for an action, the behavior will continue.

Not sure what can be done to help monitor this board better, since I do not know how all of it is handled internally, but I think if there was more of a moderator presence (as in jumping into a thread and posting about staying on topic or watching language, etc). Maybe the "bad boys" will just get tired of not being able to "terroize" anyone anymore and just leave.

Just my two cents.
[Thunderbolt General] dpdurst:
2 issue's that see on this board (and others) -

1. Anyone that ask a question already posted is immediately called a N00b and slammed on.

2. Just cause someone has low post count they are called N00b (yep happens to me on this one)

It seems that there is no patience by many user's on answering questions (if you don't have kids wait till you do, you will be answering them many times over) why get so flustered cause people ask questions, whether or not they have been answered. Not everyone is a N00b because of low post count (I know I'm not and can hold my own anytime) I also don't act like I know everything either. Some people can't let things go either.. if you don't like it why respond? just ignore it. A little common courtesy goes a long way folks. Also folks asking for things to be fixed ASAP on newly released Roms and refuse to use them until they are or they ***** and complain over and over about the issue. Just a question, do you act like this at home or deal with things like this at home with programs you use? All software has issue's if you think they don't or your the perfect programmer, you don't belong doing this. Even major software and telecom companies have bugs that happen that are not always caught on release. Its normal and if you can do better and want everything perfect, then start programming!
[Thunderbolt General] admiralspark:
I'm actually planning on creating an introductory FAQ/howto for new users. I've written documentation for new users to Linux in the past and many of the questions parallel. I'm more than happy to help in any way I can

sent from my rooted Thunderbolt with das BAMF 3.0 rc4
[Thunderbolt General] ScoobarSTI:
Feel free to add to it!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1168433
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
i commend you for this ryan but it's gonna take more than just you to make xda a better place to be. the issue is instead of people just answering questions, they always say "search" .....what a waste.

the other issue is this site seems to be run by the members and not the devs, nobodies hardly on here anymore it seems. it also takes forever for a mod to show up when you report something. now don't get me wrong i love xda for the freedom i have to an extent, i also do not want a police state like android central is. there has got to be a medium somehow. ;)

i wish we could of talked about this earlier, i hate the fact soo many devs have left the tbolt section.
[Thunderbolt General] setexascustoms:
I'm glad to see an effort is being made, it's going to take work from everyone.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
Perhaps we could have a subforum for unrooted users? There's a lot of questions where one assumes the person is rooted (because they don't bother to say) or users that aren't rooted are looking at the wrong topics to figure out what is wrong. There's also a lot of flaming between those that root and haven't rooted on the Thunderbolt forums it seems.

For example:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1169292

As a rooted user, this post would just be a waste of space and pretty offtopic. For an unrooted user, you're going to get the obligatory "ORLY???" type posts from rooted users because to those that rooted, this is old news (either because they already got the update ages ago or they changed their boot animation to something custom).
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
i dunno if id support that move, the forums can be cluttered enough as it is. if your not rooted at all i have no idea why some of you are on here? this place is for custom rom, mods and themes for rooted users mostly. no offense of course but most users come here too root.
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
I'd say probably 20% that come here don't root. I have no idea why either when they could go to more general forums for android out there that aren't so development/rooting focused. I really don't have much empathy for them when they complain about things being broke/not having fancy new features, but eh, each to their own. They would be better off complaining to the source (verizon) than complaining on here cluttering up the forum, since most of their issues cannot be fixed without doing what the refuse to do.

With that being said, a seperate forum would let them figure stuff out without getting in the way of those that did root.
[Thunderbolt General] drlenny:
Define the Problem

I think one of the biggest issues in these forums becoming heated is not so much the noobs asking noob questions, that happens on every forum. It's the fact that almost EVERYONE is getting frustrated with their Thunderbolts. I finally got mine so good that when I make a nandroid I call it [date].cm7.kang.perfect I have zero issues with my TBolt, but that is only recently. And until recently even I was beginning to loose my faith in my new phone. People come to these forums mad and mad comes out in their posts. Both noobs and pros. I think I read earlier in the post about posting a big NOOB section at the very beginning, I second that motion. I think a big 1,2,3 here's how you get everything to work will get the noobs off of the dev's backs.
[Thunderbolt General] ILMF:
Have at it Ryan. Greets from St. Louis.

+1 on the above post about the device itself. I miss my DINC.

One thought - perhaps give the Devs the opportunity to moderate their own threads. Might be giving up too much control, but just a thought.

courtesy of my rooted bolt
[Thunderbolt General] TDubKong:
nOobS thank you...ok well this NoOb does :O)
[Thunderbolt General] scottthreet32:
Need a *****,moan,groan section

General vent ..maybe a thank bank with scores of highest profile?...
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
Tru on the frustrations .... until I rooted ;) Now it's pretty darned smooth.

I will say though, on the ROM forum that I frequent there are 3-4 general "my suchandsuch isn't working, how do I fix it?" questions that come up page after page after page (GPS, call volume, Netflix ) - they've been answered over and over and over again, so people def. get frustrated. It's getting a bit better, people seem to be just posting a link to the correct answer rather than *****ing about the person asking the Q.

Cheers
[Thunderbolt General] TheLoonyRebel:
I think along with just making this area better for everyone regardless of the member being new or not... I also really think eventually trying to see if we can get some certain devs to return here would be great. Its a crime in my opinion that devs such as Team BAMF and Chingy have left due to how things around here have become.

Also I'd like to point out this thread as being an "poster child" on how rude people have become around here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1170442
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
Regardless of why they chose to leave they are gone, this isn't a thread for discussion on why developers chose to leave xda. They are gone and I wish them the best of luck.

This wasn't created for people to as one member put it whine (a better word than what was said) about the problems it was created to fix the problems and make improvements to the section. I'm looking for constructive comments and suggestions so I can work on making it a better place for all of us. So far I've gotten some great input and continue to look forward to hearing more great feedback from the members here!
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
General vent thread has been used before but I would prefer to not use it again. It turned into a flaming, childish thread and although it was semi successful it grew into a monster. I think we can solve a lot of the problems here by doing 2 things

1. Stop posting off topic comments

2. Stop flaming new members

I see it like this, we can either be adults and either help new members out of just ignore them and let them find the answer on here by themselves as we all know 99% of the time the question can be found with a search. I'm going to try and delete posts that aren't relevant to the particular thread they are posted in and try and delete posts asking questions about subjects that have already been answered and are available via search. Any other ideas I'm very happy to hear them.
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
I love the idea personally but not sure if its possible, I can always bring it up to the admins though. If any developer needs my help here in the meantime don't hesitate to ask for it!
[Thunderbolt General] scottthreet32:
anyway to get new threads setup in a searchable standard template....i try to be pretty much 1st search...2nd post new thread about what i cant find...deleting and combining info would be nice
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
Have the mods though about merging threads together?

I know other forums, take all the threads related to say, GPS issues and just merge them all together and on the ones that got merged, they link to the merged thread.
[Thunderbolt General] Brenardo:
I feel as if there are entirely to many "nice work" "Thanks" "Good job" "10 chars" posts going on.

There is a "Thanks" button and I believe we need to start using it, and if you must express you love how about a PM.?
[Thunderbolt General] milliken1050:
It's unfortunate that this is happening... I am new to the whole android scene!!
[Thunderbolt General] Ryanmo5:
Yes I have started doing this and will continue to do so as much as possible, will keep things much tidier around here! :)
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
I am not sure that's possible either due to the limitations of vbulletin (the forum software xda uses). Without some heavy modifications to the core software (which could break ever updating it besides being a pain in the butt to do because modifying vbulletin isn't the easiest thing in the world to deal with), I think they best they can do is give them forum moderator status, which is a bit more permission wise than needed.
[Thunderbolt General] NeoS:
Actually, a recognised developer is able to close his/her own dev thread if I recall correctly.