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[HTC Sensation] karendar:
I dream of a world where people will be happy with their purchases and stop trying to have the best e-peens... Both have merits, to each his own... I'll take my cm7 over sense any day...

Sent from my GT-I9100
[HTC Sensation] Success100:
i keep seeing everyone saying the adreno 220 is more powerful than the mali400, but all of the documents ive seen and researched state the opposite. The exynos SoC is a monster...
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Well, the documents I have seen contradicts those documents! I cant say anything about the exynos or the msm8260. I am just talking about the gpu. Adreno 220 > Mali 400
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
What has that got to do with the claim that the Sensation being superior to the GSII when it comes to gaming?
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
MALI-400 MP is imo a faster GPU but it really lacks stuff needed to be a good GPU. Also on the low level some of the major 3d scores are even lower than Adreno 205. So the quality here sucks. It misses many compression texture formats so low compatibility. Most games will come up with a solution for that but with time and that time could really end the life cycle of the gs2. Mali 400 is slower than adreno 205 in Geometric Tests, Common Tests, Exponential Tests. Adreno 220 will be a slightly slower GPU in synthetic tests but with more compatibility, better quality from the lower level, more texture compression formats and will be compatible with all games since start as adreno gpu games are already abundant in the market. So its more like a Samung delivered the fastest GPU with major flaws. Here Adreno 220 is like ATI and Nvidia and Mali-400 is like any other generic GPU from another company. And Galaxy S 2 coming in tegra 2 would really mess up the compatibility of Mali-400 seeing that Mali will be missing the number of devices so Mali - 400 could be a left out here.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Nothing to do with it. I was referring to the sensation not being properly optimized by htc
[HTC Sensation] Magnet42:
Can anyone tell me which phone has a better battery life?
[HTC Sensation] Success100:
dont see how that could be, the Mail400 is reported to be 5-6x faster then the powersgx gpu. I think you may have mistyped is saying the Mali400 is weaker than adreno 205. Thats the last gen gpu. Most articles state that adreno 220 can push about 88M polys/sec. The powersgx540 from the hummingbird core pushed 90. So thats last "years" technology. The only disadvantage for the Mali is the lack support for all types of texture compression. Which actually isnt the end of the world.

Again, the adreno 220 may possibly be a more powerful gpu...but during actual real world implementation and usage, the s2 stills murders the sensation in everything..well for the most part. I wish I could have both lol.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
That is not a mistake. that is the truth about mali 400.

http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1085149

There are more but you have to do the work.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Guys! The Galaxy S2 is a very good device, if it weren't for the design I would buy it for sure. I just don't like the design that is why I went for the Sensation. Samsung certainly did a better job of releasing a fully optimized product than htc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they both have a cortex a9 architecture chip. I read somewhere that there are no dual core cortex a8 chips so msm8260 must be cortex a9. If you like your SGS2 then hey! I think it is a great device, certainly performs better than the sensation out of the box. Over and Out!
[HTC Sensation] :
^^^ You seem to be obsessed with this SGS2 vs Sensation thread.
[HTC Sensation] everyday48:
I like this HTC sensation phone, the most important is to enjoy the phone whatever you buy.

Send from: gplus.to/everyday
[HTC Sensation] rldev:
I have to disagree. I just returned my sensation. It is not nearly as sturdy feeling as some claim. squeaky back cover, dust under the hood, terrible sound quality, laggy interface. What is so special about this phone? IMHO the GS2 and G2x are better built and certainly perform better.
[HTC Sensation] mathieulh:
1. The MALI does handle texture compression, you just need to use opengl es 2.0 and not all those crappy proprietary formats, that is what android should be about, it is in fact faster at handling open gl es compression than the competitors' GPU are, most games have already been ported to use opengl es 2.0 compression so cut the crappy "end of lifespan" talk

2. The MALI beats the adreno in most benchmarks, unlike what you seem to imply, which is not hard.considering the sensation has unoptimized drivers and has to output qHD resolutions, but even if that wasn't the case, I doubt the adreno would actually beat it. You also never to account the fact that these GPU use shared memory and the sgs2 has more ram.

3. I don't see what "major flaws" you are talking about, please enlight us...

4. There won't be a Tegra version of the sgs2, that one was capped and is supposed to be the Galaxy Z, you should get informed before writing a bunch of nonsense.
[HTC Sensation] Success100:
+1 minus the smart remark at the end. but youre absolutely right lol
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Havent you been reading my posts? SGS2 wins because it is very well optimized by samsung while the sensation isnt! As far as what the gpu can do, adreno 220 is superior to the mali 400. live with it! mali 400 is fast but that is it! adreno 220 is a bit slower but can handle things graphically better than mali 400!

According to differencebetween.com site, Adreno 220 is better at all these things(See below) compared to Mali 400. These are not my words but from the site I mentioned.

Direct lighting, bump, environment, radiance mapping, soft shadows, texture based on the use of vertex shader, deferred multi-pass rendering, texture noise, etc. and the test showed that Adreno 220 GPU was 2.2 times faster than the other existing devices such as Mali-400 MP GPU.

Read more: http://www.differencebetween.com/di...00mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/#ixzz1SshsqZ39
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
I think you are the one posting a bunch of nonsense. The things I post are not comming from me but from other articles about these 2 gpu's
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Why are you arguing over the Adreno 220 and the Mali when the Tegra 3 will make both of them look like second rate pieces of silicon?
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
I think you guys should just let it go. You can argue to death and manipulate benchmarks till you get them to tell you what you want but it doesn't mean anything.
[HTC Sensation] Amritttt:
I have both the phones and i think so galaxy s2 is better because it is fast and without lag and can play all sort of video(eg .mkv .avi) smoothly aswell as audio.Sensation has better video resolution and pictures are much more clear than sgs2 and it cant play 720p videos which my sgs2 can play smoothly.sgs2 has better speaker volume than sensation.

For now i can say sgs2 is a clear winner,I know as soon as bootloader is unlocked devs are gonna unleash the true power of dual core.So i hope HTC doesnt delay anymore and release the update with unlocked bootloader or Alpha Revx released his unlock as soon as possible:D
[HTC Sensation] mathieulh:
All I see here is an article reflecting what qualcomm (who conveniently is the manufacturer for the adreno 220) claims about its own gpu specs and benchmarks (no doubt that it is better than anything out there, it isn't like a manufacturer would sink his own product eh?) Yet it doesn't tell anything about the conditions said benchmarks were performed (what clock speeds, what bus speeds, what actual device...) Hell I can garantee you that even an adreno 200 overclocked at 1ghz, cooled down by liquid nitrogen would actually beat the MALI-400 in benchmarks !

I very much doubt the adreno 220 would beat the MALI 400 at their respective stock clock speeds on android OS, especially considering how bad and unoptimized the adreno 220 drivers are, which ones do you think qualcomm used ? They have the very same HTC ships in the sensation roms for the simple reason that HTC purchases the drivers sources from qualcomm in the first place.

Basically that paper tells nothing and lacks credibility. However you can see that between two actual high end devices, which are the sensation and the galaxy S2 which bare similar specs, the sensation's both adreno gpu and ARM core get beaten at almost every benchmarks.

Any other claim you want to submit about that adreno gpu?
[HTC Sensation] jpbl1976:
I have an O2X, the Sensation and the SGSII and I absolutely agree with your comments. Only the deluded or those who want to justify a bad purchase will assert that the Sensation is better than the SGSII.

The Sensation could have been a great device -- possibly on par with the SGSII -- but the software the retail units shipped with lacks optimization, Sense 3.0 feels dated in some parts, and the experience is far from smooth. It also boggles the mind that HTC shipped it with a locked bootloader only to change its mind later on.

The things it has over the SGSII right now are its solid build quality and higher-res screen. I actually use my Sensation as a 'mini-Kindle' because text looks better on it even though the SGSII renders colors and blacks beautifully.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
I do not posts nonsense, I only post truths! If you can't handle the truth, then get out of the kitchen!:p

A team known as anandtech perform the tests and the adreno 220 came on top of mali 400. Now show me articles that says mali 400 outperform adreno 220 and I am not talking about benchmarks!
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
If any of you SGS2 supporters bother to read my posts, then you will know that I never said the sensation is better than the sgs2. I said the adreno 220 is a better gpu than the mali 400, just not fully optimized for what it is capable of.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
You just said it. adreno 220 has a badly optimized drivers and that is why it performs badly in benchmarks, otherwise it would kill mali 400! Live with it!
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Just let it go man. No one is gonna change their opinion on the matter. Just how it is. :p
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
You want more articles?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...ormance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks

Adreno 220 > ULP GeForce > Mali 400 MP
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
I'm not going to disagree with you. On paper the Adreno 220 should be better. I own the G2x, Sensation and SGS2 so I can speak from a hands on perspective as opposed to what a benchmark might tell you. yes you are right, the SGS2 was put together very well such that the hardware compliments the software and vice versa. Every single aspect of SGS2 is hardware accelerated so putting the SGS2 in one hand versus the Sensation in the other is night and day. I've had the SGS2 for a month and still haven't rooted it. Because out of the box it's just that good across the board. So comparing the two device with just stock it's a no brainer. With root coming shortly the Sensation should hopefully be able to make up some of that ground. The Qualcomm developer phone showed us the raw power of the Adreno GPU but unfortunately HTC went and flubbed the implementation. Hopefully the same chip will make into other phones not manufactured by HTC because I don't the Sensation will ever be able to take full advantage of what the chip has to offer. That being said, I still love the device and IMO the 2nd best phone available today comfortably ahead of the G2x.
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
Here's a good article comparing the actual devices as opposed to just the chips. I think it's a pretty good read

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608.php
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Well those benchmarks show the Exynos clocked at 1 GHz and the the MSM8x60 clocked at 1.5 GHz. A fair comparison would be the benchmarks from the Exynos at 1.2 GHz and the MSM8x60 at 1.5 GHz still (theoretically the same performance and similar power consumption).
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
Point taken! Goodnite and goodbye!
[HTC Sensation] :
A little time invested in actually reading the article would have told that it's "Preliminary" analysis. The article date is Feb 14. Do you know GS2 only started selling on May?
[HTC Sensation] mathieulh:
Says who ? You and qualcomm ? Do you actually have any tangible evidences of that ? Besides the point is, it does not have any optimized drivers and knowing qualcomm it most likely never will, in fact I have yet to see any qualcomm gpu with optimized drivers at all, every adreno devices up to now has always performed below its competition (the adreno 200 drivers are still to this day a bunch of unoptimized crap which barely have been updated since day one), so in actual real usages, that gpu doesn't perform as well as the MALI-400. "Live with it"
[HTC Sensation] mathieulh:
This is actually the cpu clock, not the gpu one, but there is yet one other difference few people know about. In order to save money, qualcomm has the adreno to share the same bus as the ARM core, this means that if you overclock the core from 1ghz to 1.5ghz you effectively overclock the gpu (so much for fair benchmarks right?) as well because it sits on the very same bus, that is why people using qualcomm SOC notify an improvement in graphics rendering as they overclock their cpu (and likewise, a performance decrease as they downclock it) this also means that if the bus gets flooded by either the gpu or the cpu, both their performances will suffer, other SOC architectures such as the Exynos are different as the cpu and gpu sit on different busses, as such the gpu clock speed is entirely independent from from the cpu bus clock, therefore you can overclock and downclock each of those independently of each other, you also have no chances of hindering the cpu performances if you increase traffic to the gpu.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Yup, your right.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] snowcloud:
If anyone have XXJPF or anyother beta firmware kernel, please upload it for me.

I need it.

PLZ....:(:(:(

I have very bad internet connection i cannot download whole firmware for just a kernel.

THanx in advance.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] RafayelG:
here you go XXJPF Kernel

you see that thanks button press it :P
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] snowcloud:
thanx a lot man
[Off-topic] webstar1:
Hi, i just wanted to create a directory of amazing facepalm images. Heres a few to start the collection:
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Not the sort of behaviour we expect from senior members.

How about politely reminding them to search and read instead of trying to belittle them with a grossly overused meme.

Just a thought.......

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] twitch351:
Although I agree with your methodology, these pictures are funny. :)

That you cannot deny.

-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
[Off-topic] Miss Dragon:
Agreed. I know how newbies feel being treated that way ,we need to help them to the right direction, instead of make fun of them.

that's the way making a wonderful community.:p
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Put em Dirks huuge random image thread... ;)

No issue with the pics themselves...
[Off-topic] TheRomMistress:
Leaving this thread open, but please, no discouraging remarks regarding other members or its closed. Also edited OP.
[Off-topic] raving_nanza:
............
[Off-topic] webstar1:
So why is this allowed:

http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA

?

Just wondering

Heres more to add :D
[Off-topic] tsi_tp:
... more and more ...

xda premium
[Off-topic] TheRomMistress:
That video is in friendly jest and was created with the admins stamp of approval. Rude comments towards new members inside the threads only lead to more rude comments.
[Off-topic] raving_nanza:
nothing wrong with the video, rather amusing tbh
[Thunderbolt General] agt7575:
I tried to root my Thunderbolt yesturday (I installed the 07/08 OTA from verizon when it became available on 07/08). I have followed the steps to the T, and have been unable to root my phone.

Is anyone else having this problem?

I used the following guide: [RS Guide] How to Root Your Thunderbolt

Here are a few things I noticed:

Wen I type "adb devices" I get the following message:

adb server is out of date. Killing...

* daemon started successfully *

List of devices attached

HT12GS001525 device

Is this a normal message?

Second, One I go through all the copy & paste into the cmd window, my TB goes through all the checking of the PG05IMG.zip, and I get error messages about no img found and whatnot... I never get the message "Do you want to start update?" I have to hit reboot from the bootloader, and then my TB reboots and I get no changes to my phone.

Any help would be appreciated.
[Thunderbolt General] CanesDrew:
You need to make sure that on your SD Card, the PG05IMG file does not have ".zip" at the end of the name. If it does, your phone reads it as "PG05IMG.zip.zip"

Take the .zip off the name and it should work.

The message from ADB that you got is normal and means that your phone is being read correctly and communicating with your computer.
[Thunderbolt General] sublimaze:
Also, you use the volume up button (not the power button) to confirm the radio update.
[Thunderbolt General] Stupner:
Make sure HTC Sync is not running on your computer in the back ground
[Thunderbolt General] acslee88:
Update?

Were you successful in rooting the phone?

I am a new TB user and the update just went through..

If it worked which rooting method did you use?

Thank you!
[Thunderbolt General] Longwayii:
Just use thunderbolt auto-root!! Worked for me today on new thunderbolt. Had a thunderbolt traded for Droid charge then gave the Droid charge away and paid full price for new thunderbolt :(
[Thunderbolt General] blueis300:
I used to use auto root and it worked great but lost my copy or version. All the ones I used recently didnt work. Can you point me to the one you used. Still cant do ADB. And yes I know Im challenged.
[Thunderbolt General] acslee88:
what do you mean by losing your copy or version?

and which auto root tool did you use?
[Thunderbolt General] johnnyv5:
Just did ota and was wondering how to root. Please advise..
[Thunderbolt General] rotorocker:
auto root still works with OTA from 7/8. I did it on mine last night
[Thunderbolt General] johnnyv5:
Mind pointing to instructions?

Jv
[Thunderbolt General] rotorocker:
Literally went from here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQYoeFrJ1Jk while drinking vodka!
[Thunderbolt General] oxidant11:
So I would do some research and make sure this works with the new ota but I have used it on several TB's (original radio) and it works great.

http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...uides/1488-auto-root-un-root-thunderbolt.html
[Thunderbolt General] D1cey:
Edit: Got it sorted out.
[Thunderbolt General] amon619:
I am in San Diego and am getting the update now. The update appears to be OTA v. 1.70.605.0

If you do not want to update to this OTA version all you need to do is interrupt the update and do a refresh check update, once it prompt you to update you will have the option to reject or defer.

I am going to see how this OTA plays out and will consider rooting in the coming days.
[Thunderbolt General] acslee88:
Link please?

Hello,

I don't understand which auto root you are talking about..

is it possible that you provide a link? thank youuuu
[Thunderbolt General] Jrocker23:
See post #12
[Thunderbolt General] rotorocker:
indeed that it is :)
[Thunderbolt General] dustinshepard:
Auto Root

Wow this auto root is even easier than the one click root!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dukuletz:
Hello,

I need help from someone who knows how to add a new language to Swype.

I have 2 swype.apk with the languages i want but i just don't know how can i combine them.

I'm interested in a swype version that has 3 languages: English UK, Romanian (Romana) and Vietnamese (Tieng Viet)

I attach here those 2 apks contains those languages.

I think the best way is to move vietnamese files from Swype with Vietnamese and English.apk into Swype with Romanian and others.apk.

But I don't know what to move :) and to make it work!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
I don't know how to add a language, but I know how to replace a language.

Pick one language you don't need (english US maybe), and move Vietnamese files over them.

(of course you need apktool to extract / repack an apk and don't forget to sign)

I did it to add French Canada to my swype keyboard. Works fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dukuletz:
Hello, that is a good solution. But what files do i have to replace?

I need only the dictionary where it contains all the words, the keyboard i would like it to be the one for English US.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dukuletz:
I tried to move the Romanian.zdb.le over EnglishUS but it didnt worked.

I used APK Manager to decompile Swype.apk and then replace the zbd.le file, compile it back and sign.

But when i try to use it on the phone, it says there is a problem with the database. And i can use that language. All the other works fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
you need to replace all three language files

at least that worked for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snake304:
hello, I am trying to get swype keyboard in Vietnamese language for the samsung galaxy s3(Rogers) phone. It is for my girlfriend in Vietnam. Please post instructions for this. Please help me. If possible. Anyone in Toronto? I can pay you for this. Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ergon:
Look I've got a TB and jailbroken and rooted several. IF you had the oppertunity to trade for another what would it be? I'm looking at the Bionic. Just don't know.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoulderGeek:
That is a very non-descriptive subject line.

Don't be surprised if this thread gets no traction.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] razor2006:
Perhaps you should go for an iPhone if you like jailbreaking...

Heh, just ribbing you. I think the Bolt is a great phone, the only real downfall being the stock battery, which I fixed by getting the extended battery.

That being said, I love HTC devices. If I were to want something else (which I don't), I'd have to say perhaps the EVO 3D or the Sensation.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ktech11:
I wouldn't trade it for anything out there yet. I have completely written off Moto because of the insistence on Blur (oh wait it's not blur it is the Moto UI nevermind what the files are actually called) and the locked and encrypted bootloaders. HTC is much more dev friendly and has open-sourced Sense additionally has announced that they will not have locked bootloaders anymore. Plus this phone is fast, 4g is awesome and the ROMs out there are great!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DominikReber:
Hi all

I have the 8.8.4.5 (PRIME! v1.4) installed, how can I get 8.4.4.11?

Thanks a lot

Dominik
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devilpera64:
Or you wipe all and return on stock 4ever, or wait some update for your rom, or you can change rom using Clemsyn 3A just posted. After use titanium backup and restore your apps :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onebelo:
Roach is working on 1.6 with the latest ota update as base so just hold out for alil bit, its coming
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guptaavi:
The Revolver 0.2 ROM is based on clemsyn + Prime and includes 8.4.4.11. Working great for me!