yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] solnt:
Yeah, forum has size limited to files which uploaded to here. So either zip your file or split your file into smaller size. :d

Using new kernel, so far so good.

Thanks all devs

sol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Why didn't you specify? Sheesh.

Pastebin it then... Or zip it as stated above.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
thanx a lot Arghhh for telling me about wep and wpa.... i just changed my fios encryption type and wifi is working no more playing with wifi ace of text files :D

thanx a lot :)

now all i need is lib files for hq playback :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Good! I think you can find what you're looking for here...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Ok I zipped it, here goes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
no it didn't work for me for some reason :D and i just found out that my usb port don't work with aux cable in my car but in windows it does ... :D ...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yup, you need to revert to an older kernel, before the 3.5mm patch. Ironically when the 3.5mm jack was enabled, it broke the stupid extUSB cable doo-hickey.

20110627 is the kernel just before the 3.5mm patch.

Edit:

I looked at your logs, and either I'm blind, or you never run terminal emulator. Do you have ConnectBot? Does that also crash? If you don't, please download it and try to run it. If it crashes in the same way immediately pull logs. Don't wait, don't do 15 other things... the logcat may have scrolled off, which is why I'm not seeing it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
i'm sorry to bother you again and again but i don't seem to find the 3.5 mm patch .... i checked faqs and 1st page but didn't find it ....

i am gonna have a look at it again just in case i missed it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What?

You say you have a T-Mobile TP2, which is the RHOD210. That device doesn't have a 3.5mm jack...

Do you not understand my post!!? You have to use a kernel before the 3.5mm patch to use the extUSB dongle. Devs are working to fix it, if you want to use it in the meantime use a kernel that pre-dates the 3.5mm patch - which I linked above....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Ok will do!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
ohh thanx :)

i'm sorry i guess i missed that part :P

sorry about that again

btw i found something strange .... if i use Rhod 210 startup txt my phone freezes a lot and i get force close pop up but if i use rhod 500 start up txt i get no problem everything runs so smooth without any problem.

anyway it's working good with rhod 500 txt that's all i care about :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Uh... your words make no sense to me, and I'm sure your keyboard layout will be wrong. I have a feeling you were just impatient on first boot...? The startup.txt files aren't really too different from eachother. Certainly not different enough to cause dramatic speed differences...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] latinohot:
So...

...how are the devs doing on camcorder sound?

will it be something included on FRX08?

and also how about the youtube HQ fix, will it make it too?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
The HQ fix is partially resolved by some updated libs. hyc hacked at them, but still wasn't able to get videos to play at native resolution. This thread kinda goes thru that discussion.

Camcorder sound, I assume you mean recording audio while capturing video? I'd say that's a pretty minor issue, but it is resolved with the new audio routing code. If the code isn't ready when FRX08 is going to be released, then no it won't make it in FRX08. If it's ready before, then I don't see why it wouldn't... You can use that code now if you want, but it's not stable - for example, when you try to use the speakerphone on a call the mic is not enabled, and subsequently the far end doesn't hear you. There's also issues where all audio just seems to 'die' after a certain amount of uptime.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
i don't really know it can be just my phone. but i don't get so many force close pop ups and my phone don't freeze.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I guess whatever works? :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
i just checked my phone's keyboard layout on yahoo, surprisingly it's working fine :O

well thanx for your help and time

i appreciate it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cougargt:
Tried using "mydroid" for a folder name. Still a no go. I guess I'm just stuck with WM 6.5 for now. Not that I don't like it WM 6.5 has been a winner for me all along. It's just gonna get harder to find programs for it as time goes by. Android is the clear choice as my next OS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
You always have no sound, or you said it "stops working" after some time...?

I looked thru your logs, I don't see anything standing out other than the processor is pegged and not happy.

Did you try the reformat with the HP Tool and start fresh with nothing on the card from any previous build? Have you tried the GingerBread build?

Either way, don't expect this to replace WinMo. While it is getting quite good, there's still a lot of things missing. It will not work flawlessly. In some ways it's better than WinMo, but there's still a lot of little nagging pieces missing or flat out not working.

A lot of people ran this just to see if they wanted an Android device for their next phone... Seems like a good use for it. I run Android full time, but still struggle with simple things like answering phone calls :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mbellot:
I don't think it's (XD)Android... I have troubles answering the phone when in WinMo too. Stupid thing won't react until it's too late.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cougargt:
I did a full reformat and loaded a fresh download.

There was a couple times when I started android when I did have sound. But it seemed like it would cut out if I use the camera (like using the bar code scanner). But for the most part I just never had sound right from the start.

I have it over clocked to 710.4 and I'm still seeing the pegged statement in the logs.

Maybe I can give GingerBread a shot.

And I agree about not being ready for prime time and most likely won't be. But I did want to see what android was all about. I like it.

I think I'm the anti-fanboy of anything Apple, they really turn my stomach. And Windows Phone just makes me mad at MS. To me it's a piece of crap toy like the iphone. WinMo was a true business phone that never had it's story told. It did just about everything right from the start but nobody knew it.

Android seems to be the only system that can replace WM and finish the job.

Well off to give GingerBread a try.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] championc:
Hi all,

On my RHOD100 - Has anyone else tried Kernel 20110805 ? I downloaded it on Sunday evening and I definitely think the Battery Life is better with this build than with previous builds. Anyone else had a similar experience ?

C
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] lotusfrontera:
How do you alter message notitifcation? I have managed to alter my ring tones, but can`t see where I can add a tone to my notification list?

Someone please point me in the right direction.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
Hi. I believe post 594 has you covered:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16437868&postcount=594

I hope this is the answer you were looking for.

Cheers! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] lotusfrontera:
Cheers for that, spot on it worked a treat:D;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Wireless Location

Hi there,

First thanks for the great work.

Second, I can't manage to get my location using only cell towers. meanwhile GPS works fine.

Am I doing anything wrong?

I'm on kernel 20110805_223228

and rootfs 20110727-358bc80.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
GSM has worked... for ages. You're on GSM from what I've gathered from your profile - I assume you have that box checked in Settings -> Location & Security?

Are you using Google Maps or what to verify? If you disable GPS completely, you get no location in Google Maps? GSM has to triangulate, so netloc doesn't always work. CDMA cheats here, it just goes off of the tower & signal strength (AFAIK).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Hi Arrrghhh

Thanks for the quick answer.

As you said I'm on GSM with ATT. Yes I only selected Use Wireless networks in Settings -> Location & security (no GPS). I'm using maps, When I hit the location icon, a message comes up saying "Waiting for location" and 5 seconds later another message comes up saying "You location is temporary unavailable". What king of log can I use to find any indication about what's going on with the location? Radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Logcat would probably be the most useful. Pull all three with the GetLogs app, makes it much easier on everyone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Okay will do.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
heres my getlog
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Uh... for the terminal emulator crashing? Did you try with ConnectBot at all? Please be a little more descriptive. I don't really like guessing what your issue is, or why you're posting logs. IIRC, your issue was terminal emulator crashing...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] championc:
Feedback on the latest 20110809 Rom

MyPhone : RHOD100 -

Audio via the extUSB is now working again (as per acl committed 8704c33) :D

I see some work with the lcd backlight too. The RHOD100 is still far too dim in daylight. Indoors, with Manual Brightness set to full, I then turned on Auto Brightness, and the screen I think got fractionally brighter. One thing I noticed too was that on Auto, once connected to a power charger, the screen stayed lit but if Not on Auto, the screen goes off after about 1 minute (although the lock screen does not activate and just touching the screen restores it. Maybe Arrrghhh can pass this back to the Devs

I'll confirm the battery usage / drain tomorrow but I was certainly impressed with the difference between july kernels and the 20110805 one. I hope it's still like that in 20110809 - no reason for it not to be I suppose !!

C
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Arrrghhh,

Here' are the logs.

http://pastebin.com/wLXtitJY

I started maps and then getLogs. Went back in maps hit the location icon waited for the message and quickly switch back to getLogs and hit gather logs to make sure the problem would show up at the end of the log.

I can't really see anything jumping out of it tho.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
i have a problem. most of the applications start by themselves. even if i force close them or kill them using advanced task killer, all the applications start by themselves again after couple minutes.

can u tell me what i can do to stop them from starting ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm.

I don't know how netloc works on GSM - I gotta learn mahself up on this.

I do see a lot of these in your logs:

08-09 14:31:33.700 W/dalvikvm( 2100): ERROR: Unable to find decl for native Lcom/android/inputmethod/pinyin/PinyinDecoderService;.nativeImOpenDecoder ([B[B)Z
08-09 14:31:33.700 W/dalvikvm( 2100): JNI_OnLoad returned bad version (-1) in /system/lib/libjni_pinyinime.so 0x44f5d798

Followed by some nasty stack traces. Do you use Pinyin? It doesn't seem happy if you do. If you don't... I'd say get rid of it. Not sure what it's griping about, but this is all over your logcat... again and again and again...

Edit - also, your radiolog ends before your logcat? I don't know how that could happen, but I can't cross-reference in the radiolog when you opened Maps...

Edit2 - I just had a quick'n'dirty explanation of how netloc works in the GSM world.

So I am surmising that it's possible the tower you're connected to isn't in the DB. GSM is definitely inferior in this aspect (CDMA towers simply report their lat/long directly to the phone...)

Have you tried in different areas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Well I didn't know what Pinyin was until I ask my best friend google.

It seems to be the Japanese/Chinese text converter... I couldn't uninstall it but I disabled it in Language and Keyboard settings.

I'll redo the logs to make sure everything is included.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Can't even get ConnectBot to install! You told me to post mylogs of why myself and others are having the problem with wifi
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Oh, I thought you were posting logs for the terminal emulator crash.

I asked you to try ConnectBot in order to see if another terminal application will crash (I bet that it will).

Why can't you install ConnectBot...? It would help triage.

I'm pretty sure I already know your issue with wifi - as do you - no MAC address in the wifi-nvram.txt file, so wifi will never work. You're trying to apply that fix, but failing because you can't get into any console apps.

Why is everything so difficult with you dude? You really need to take a deep breath and go one step at a time. Take time in posting. It'll really help everyone help you better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
I got rid of the pinyin by uninstalling using titanium.

Here're the new logs: http://pastebin.com/05FNsd0p

At least we don't see the pinyin errors.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
The log does tell that I couldn't get the location.

08-09 17:18:03.900 D/Genie ( 1859): Can not get the location from network

And the process that has the pid 1859 is com.google.android.apps.genie.geniewidget
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ok, this goes back to my previous question - have you tried getting your location in, ahem, other locations? If the tower you're connected to can't be related to a tower in the DB, GSM netloc will surely fail.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Sorry I did't see your 2nd edit. I do try everywhere i go. I'm traveling everyday by train for 45 minutes. I used to be able the follow my approximate position all along. I can't anymore. I guess the log will not give me any more info about my problem. I'll do some more research about the netloc and cell tower location using gsm. thanks for your help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm. That concept of the tower not being in the DB was just me grabbing at straws, since you're the only individual to report this issue.

To rule it out, rename your data.img to data.bak and let the boot process create a fresh one. After the phone settles from the first boot, disable GPS, enable netloc and try Google Maps. If it works, then something was hosed in your data.img. If not, I'm stumped... but if you're willing we'll keep trying things. Like reverting to older files to ensure there was no regression.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] despondantghost:
Internal Memory?

Is there any reason this can't run on internal memory? Would it be faster? Would it be better to get a faster SD card like a class 10?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ianshmian:
"unknown rel_path"

Everytime I try to load FRX07 this happens.

I go to my folder

then I run haret.exe

Then this appears.

Here is my startup.txt

I have a Rhod400
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
Try moving the rel_path statement in the middle somewhere (not the last option in the quoted list)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ianshmian:
still wont go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
One last guess from me, and I'll let the experts take over. Are there hard line breaks between your quoted parameters? I looked at mine, and they're all on one line, separated by spaces.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
Edit: never mind
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ianshmian:
Got it. The stock startup had a line break. Thanks a bunch bro.

And now that it's loaded the network wont show up. Damn GSM setup.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
There's a thread on NAND... but it's not nearly stable/ready for primetime yet. Heck this really isn't either, but it's getting close ;).

Yea, editing the startup.txt on WinMo is never a good idea... Just don't save it in Word format or whatever question it asks.

As for network - did you setup your APN? You have no service completely...? This is what type of RHOD? If it's a 400 or 500 you might have to manually select GSM service... not really sure how that works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ianshmian:
its a 400, i selected the GSM only option but it goes on and off every few seconds. Can't send any messages.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
Say whaaaa?! :eek::eek: FRX07 is amazing. Primetime doesn't deserve it. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] championc:
I don't know what someone did but battery seems even better now than even on 20110805. Last night, Battery Indicator app told me I had 72 remaining, this morning it was only down to 54 so by my reckoning, i'd nearly get 24hrs usage now :)

As for the backlight, I tried it this morning in the car. It's currently overcast and the screen was hard to see so I turned off the Auto Brightness to get a decent brightness level.

C
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
Youtube doesn't work at all on my rhod100, even if I disable HQ. I have sound but display is black. Is this related to AUO panel issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
I'm using the same wifi-nvram.txt file from FRX06
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Uhm... I don't think so. Are you sure HQ is disabled...?

Have you tried on wifi and 3g? It works on both for me...

I asked how many questions, and this is your response -_-.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Hi,

So I deleted data.img, had the phone recreate it and tested maps right away but no cigar!

So I decided to replace system.ext2 by the one that came with the original bundle. Bingo!!! I have cell tower location. It looks like the system.ext2 got corrupted somehow.

Arrrghhh thanks very much for your help.

Ben.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Odd, but glad it's fixed!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] benouch:
Yep weird.

I think my SD card is shot!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
I have always had that problem of some apk's will install and some won't.

I have no clue just trying to listen, learn, and follow!

Ok I will and I think the color coding is helping can you smile now;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
lol ok.

Are you on the latest rootfs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] championc:
No problem at all for me

RHOD100, FRX07, rootfs 20110727, kernel 20110809
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] großa:
Can't download *.zip files to my phone.

Phone says they are not supported??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ibm_chandan:
Screen Cast not working for me

Screen cast runs successfully , and shows the screen on my laptop but I am not able to control my device through screencast. Is there any application or third party solution and/or combination of multiple applications that might work like MyMobile used to do for Win MO.

Thanks guys in advance.

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cougargt:
Well I've made great strides so far. I got the audio working on my Tilt2 whit Frx07. I don't know if this was the reason. But I put WinMo into airplane mode and turned the sound all the way down, reset the phone then booted Android. And now I have sound.

Now on to the next stumbling block.

Anyone know how to get a WMV file to play? I have a ton of movies formatted for my phone in wmv and I can't play anything. Or is videos one of the broken features yet?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What do guys with native Android devices do? This is really an issue that pertains to Android as a whole, not just our port...

Same to you... what do native Android devices use?

There is still an issue with videos of a certain resolution. If the video is over a certain resolution, it will not play (usually you get audio but no video).

WinMo is still better on our devices on the video aspect. Several devs have tried to push video encoding/decoding to get it up to par with where WinMo is at, but it seems that may not be possible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cougargt:
These videos are formatted in 320x240 @ 20fps. It's not a big deal right now. As long as I can use android for other things and jump back to WM I'm good.

I use my phone for everything from business to entertainment that sometimes intermixes. I work in construction and have software on my phone that aid me in my work. Plus listen to the voice over of documentaries at a low volume to keep my mind sharp all day. And when I've got the time, even watch them. I don't do the gaming thing.

I know some of the apps i use are available for android, but others that I use havn't been updated in year and probably never will. So having a duo boot (kind of) system would be a plus for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Tippfehler:
Have you tried qqplayer?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cougargt:
I've tried a number of them. But all have about the same results. The program starts, I pick a video, looks as if it's loading, and shortly after it goes back to the list of files or just bombs back out to the home screen.

But I'll take a look at qqplayer.

Just d/l qqplayer. Man that is real close. Just a little outa sync, but that may be something i can fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
That's what I have been looking for, I have rootfs-20110727-358bc80, I think that's what is but not sure if there is a newer direct me and I will use!

thanks arrrghhh!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/

rootfs-20110727-358bc80.zip is the newest.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the show stopper:
can somebody help me fix this problem ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Bah, I thought I answered this - I looked back and somehow missed it.

It's not an easy answer. Basically apps do this if you have them set to sync anything. That means widgets, gmail, the Market... the list goes on. Any app you can dream of that has any sort of background sync feature.

There's also apps that startup with the system. See hyc's post on how to fix apps that startup automatically. WARNING - this is not easily achieved, but very effective.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] MerlinOfLore:
" Almost every time I install an app, whether from the Android Market, the Amazon AppStore, or sideloading, it does what I call a half reset, where it doesn't reset to WinMo, it drops back to the flying Androids screen and reloads the OS.

Yup. If the system becomes unresponsive, it throws a killall zygote which causes Android to panic and reboot basically."

When this happens on my Tilt2, I lose phone service. I still have WiFi but no cell signal. Other than rebooting into WinMo and then back to FRX07, is there a workaround to get cell coverage up and running?