yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy General] Kayant:
That has been done and dusted down by Moto it never worked just search motorola boot loader campaign on google and see for your eyes...... Motorola are idiots for not caring about the community even after our numerous outcries yet they still want to lock stuff with

Army level encryption.... I really don't get it what the hell are they trying to protect anyway??? No other OEM does it so why moto??
[Defy General] jassi32:
anyone wanna try it ..... to break the key .....must have little computer lab for this ..... don't know about it just posted .....

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/1024-bit-rsa-encryption-cracked-by-carefully-starving-cpu-of-ele/
[Defy General] m11kkaa:
This does only work with a computer which has the private-key.

This scenario can be found when visiting ssl-encrypted websites. Good luck changing the cpu voltage of a server BTW :D

Our defy does not contain the private key. And the public key is not very useful.
[Defy General] walter79:
Can post your boot.img? Can you check if your phone supports fastboot?
[Defy General] AnTerNoZ:
he speak about the kexec method of the defy at normal boot, or not? the post I quoted it's about the recovery found in here. the stock recovery what flash every zip, if it's right signed (CM9 CM10).

I know the recovery is a closed system, but maybe this recovery isn't a locked system, and we can use it to load things thru it to start the 3G modem.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1787541

Jelly powered.Defy
[Defy General] kadopt:
if the kernel is loaded then the ril is already initialized as the drivers are inside the kernel.

also how are you going to execute code from the recovery?

also to really check if the bootloader loads custom unsigned kernels to load the recovery then a custom kernel for the defy must be built and flashed (not a nexus 7 kernel with modded script) then test if the recovery loads again after a reboot.

also disabling the radio from *#*#4636#*#* on the dialer is useful to load drivers in a running environment? (nevermind this as there's no kernel without ril drivers)

if kexex can be used to load a custom kernel on defy without ril,can the ril be disabled and re-enabled on a running environment or something (*#*#4636#*#* thing)? or it will crash the phone?
[Defy General] drunk_ryder24:
maybe a computer that has openCL capability around 1,2 terraflops compute power and a propper compiler?

---------- Post added at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:05 AM ----------

some methods about breaking aes might give a clue to someone how to do it in opencl

http://developer.amd.com/sdks/AMDAPPSDK/samples/Pages/default.aspx
[Defy General] TJKV:
No no, quarx said that the kexec method and the recovery method will both not work because of the same reason. Reread his post, you'll understand... He wasn't replying to anyone else, he replied to the same post that you wanted him to reply to :P
[Defy General] dark_prince:
Have you guys looked into HTC HD2 development section?

They have a secondary bootloader to load linux/android off HD2. If we can implement a secondary bootloader with a custom kernel rather only CWM in 2nd init, is it possible?
[Defy General] kadopt:
we have no bootloader source....
[Defy General] hackergnome:
HD2 has an open bootloader

Not sure if hd2 bl source is available...
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
we should try and contact the guy son the HTC HD2 forum.
[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
There are plenty of "open" bootloaders out there, but they're of no use to us.
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Sorry for this not so dev idea.....has anyone tried bribing the customer care people for that TI recovery tool someone spoke abt.....we could contribute the money spent from the community.....lol....bad idea I know.....but still ....worth a shot at this stage....!!!!
[Defy General] ppero196:
We should be ninjas and sneak into Motorola Service Centre and steal TI Recovery tool..
[Defy General] kadopt:
Some one had that idea... Just dump Motorola.... It's sad but it's the way it is...
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
bribing should work wonderfully well in India. problem is ..... we should know someone over there.
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
exactly.....mumbai has a service centre i hope........that thing is ALL we need...!
[Defy General] nidhish91:
What TI tool? I can try getting it! My Defy has gone for repair so many times that the service center employ knows me!
[Defy General] espaciosalter20:
Use search bar function.... I know that the exact reference for that ti tool it's somewhere on an older post on this thread...

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[Defy General] viper.:
Here's the info ^ @nidhish91
[Defy General] marhensa:
i remember back there someone get the TI software, but not the 16 MB bin file which is important one.

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[Defy General] Kaffeekranz:
If it's TI Flash, then yeah, that's even openly available.

Assuming it would be of any help, what we'd need would be the configuration files for our HS Omap 36xx and the *.bin file.

Assuming, assuming.

/

By the way, this has actually been used on some LG and Samsung devices to unbrick them.
[Defy General] hsrars-d:
Please try to get it!!

:)

TI Flash is openly available, we only need the 16mb .bin config file
[Defy General] androidtester80:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/08/1...-20-of-work-force-part-of-sweeping-change.xml

I'm really sorry for those loosing their jobs , Motorola was a great company and it's a pitty that Google is going this way.

For us ... maybe some upset ex employe would leak the right file ;)
[Defy General] hackergnome:
Maybe we can go back in time when there was tmo's update..

Or tell a tmo defy user to goto tmo 2.1 in that way he'll get 2.2 update without updating if we change the server we may have it cracked!

Just a thought...

Swyped from my DroidDefy using xda Premium app
[Defy General] 57op:
No, i've misunderstood :o...

It's not related to time.

Is anyone trying to check for updates on other roms?
[Defy General] Landroid:
Maybe we need to start earlier, with 2.51 f.e., if moto doesn't have any 2.2 Firmwares w/o locked bl's.

just my 2 cents...
[Defy General] drwario:
maybe I could test but I would need instructions for server
[Defy General] 57op:
You need:

A Blur ROM

Enable "Cloud Setup": ( credits go to Quarx who managed to enable this option on defy )

in [B]system/build.prop[/B]
ro.build.type=[B]user[/B] -> [B]eng[/B]
in [B]etc/motorola/com.motorola.blur.setup/defaults.xml[/B]
<boolean name='CloudPreference' value='[B]false[/B]'/> -> [B]true[/B]

Wipe data

Reboot, once android is started press: menu touchkey -> cloud setup -> choose a server from the list ( it's a bit difficult to scroll, but if you try you can do it! ).

Register a motoblur account ( always new one, since server is different )

Check for updates

a) If no update is found, redo from step 3

b) If update is found, only download it. don't install it immediatly.

File will be downloaded in /cache ( update.zip if i'm not wrong ), pull it out with adb and follow this steps: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15820321&postcount=35
[Defy General] drwario:
Ok I'm gonna try. Ill be on the stock 2.1 rom. My phone came with. Tmo 3.6 or whatever. I will get back in a few hours
[Defy General] Citynomad:
@Carlo93: I think there's a line missing in your code. What should one add or change in "etc\motorola\com.motorola.blur.service.blur\defaults.xml"?
[Defy General] 57op:
Oh sorry, i've fixed. That file contains the server on which check for updates.

You don't have to modify it, since cloud Setup will change server automatically.
[Defy General] drwario:
OK I 6.19 and 6.36 tmo USA. My phone shipped with 6.19. Shall I try both?.
[Defy General] Citynomad:
If your phone is shipped with 6.19, I would try 6.36

€: 10 tries with the first couple of servers and the whole simpson family ;) and no ota testupdates for 4.5.1-134 available.

Please, some of you that are still on Froyo or Eclair, give it a try.
[Defy General] 57op:
Are there any news? ( I don't want this project to die :( )
[Defy General] demolition23:
Did you try?
[Defy General] djkail:
I think we need a tutorial for dummies to test this... :p
[Defy General] 57op:
Yes, i've tried on leaked gingerbread...

I wanted to know if someone has tried with eclair/froyo...

You've only to check for updates on test-servers: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15860504&postcount=65
[Defy General] drwario:
Yes we do. This dummy has been busy. But I am planing on giving it a whirl
[Defy General] racca:
I have some disappointing news/discovery to share.

Defy do have a fastboot mode hidden away from us (it's in mbm/mmcblk1p2), BUT the switch itself is not in the nand chip (not where i can find anyway).

here's an eng defy in fastboot mode (and yes i have flashed home cooked boot.img to it, it boots. it can also flash any sbf you can find.)

View attachment 663920

I have flashed mmcblk1p1/2/3/18/19/22/23 extracted from the unit shown above (to a retail defy), it's clearly not in those or any other partitions in the sbf.

so if defy were ever to be unlocked, don't look at the flashable parts, it might be in the update binary/script or unknown parts
[Defy General] Quarx:
boot.img without signature?

If so, how to get into this mode?
[Defy General] drwario:
+1 on that. Doesn't this mean were in buisness. At least kinda
[Defy General] racca:
>adb reboot bootloader

if you must know, but it really doesn't matter, since we can't actually unlock a retail defy just yet (nand dump doesn't help).

i can provide dumps on request (via pm only, since tempering with mbm/mbmloader etc can be very dangerous)
[Defy General] vick33:
So the switch is not in mbm. Is there a way to dd the whole nand from 0x0000000000 to the end of nand? I highly doubt that there is a hardware difference. Maybe there is an eprom and the bootloader enters different mode depending on its content? I am just guessing:-)
[Defy General] NishantM:
Heh, that can happen :D
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
many service centres actually. They have one at Borivali, Andheri, Dadar, Vashi and Lower Parel. We should try at these places.

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where you at? I have mentioned some service centres above...you can try them out too :)
[Defy General] marhensa:
if this could happen.. i'll cancel to buy nexus.

i hope it wont turned out to be silly scam like previous attempt.

which some troll here says s/he need lot money to bribe moto guy to get the *.bin file..

and turned out that was just scam.

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[Defy General] TJKV:
Yeah that hemil guy :|

About the job cuts... I was imagining that the execs who were responsible for decisions to lock down bootloader being let go :P
[Defy General] jassi32:
yup

+1
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
I imagined that possibility too.....but dude....desperate times call for desperate measures......

These many????...sigh....for me nearest would be Jaipur I think....else Delhi....
[Defy General] nidhish91:
Borivali. Ill make a thread in Discussion section regarding this. We Indians can get those files if we try.

S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
[Defy General] pjgowtham:
I'm from India ..i had given my defy for service cos it was water damaged..and he got little close to me...so i tried to crack down that bin file from him..but he refused to give it and said its impossible to ...may b moto has distributed those bin files with an identity of every service center in it..so it may b like every bin file n every service centre ll b unique..and it ll b a threat to their jobs if they leak those files out...
[Defy General] m11kkaa:
Then we need to find someone who has the bin-file AND is about to quit his job at moto :D

But I don't think every person has it's own bin-file, only one for the whole-service-centre. And: Nobody can know who published the file. Maybe somebody lost his usb-stick with this file on the street ;)
[Defy General] nidhish91:
And I might be the one who found the usbstick..

I am trying too to get the files.

S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
[Defy General] tlongren:
For real?
[Defy General] Kyle07:
Brilliant...may the force be with you!:good:
[Defy General] juried:
PM me if I can help out with a bribe, via paypal.
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
God .....place help these warriors

.....and let them emerge with flying colours.!!!!!
[Defy General] juan296:
OMG, GOOD LUCK BROOO :D
[Defy General] m_zet:
Maybe this INFO (for many people involved sad info) will help to get what we need to unlock the bootloader...

More info here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/13/us-motorolamobility-jobs-idUSBRE87C07F20120813
[Defy General] bone101:
If Motorol/Google invites our devs like quarxs and epsylon ore else to help them to program software , they could advertise to have always savest and the newest androud software with the best quality of hardware

What Apple do is to make a lot commerce about their products and people like that sh......sorry, not at all
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
You can count on me for any help you need if you are in Mumbai.
[Defy General] pankajkainthla:
Motorola starts unlocking bootloaders :)

http://lifehacker.com/5935837/motorola-launches-official-bootloader-unlocking-tool-for-android-phones?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_twitter&utm_source=lifehacker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
[Defy General] m11kkaa:
This will not help us, because it seems only phones which recently got an ICS-update are unlockable.
[Defy General] marhensa:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-releases-htcdev-like-unlocking-tool/

aahh... crap.

i already left defy..

and then they start unlock the bootloader.
[Defy General] TJKV:
:eek: left defy huh?

Well good for you, I see you bought the nexus :)
[Defy General] marhensa:
well.. not exactly left.

i sold it to my close friend..

so i'll likely help him to do some android stuff, and stay visiting these defy threads :D

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.1
[Defy General] zakoo2:
well, both sad and glad to hear that :)

i want to buy the acro s, but no money for that right now, will be saving up, so till then ill stick with the defy.

and dont get your hopes up, for us having an unlockable bootloader we need an update, which we wont get for sure.
[Defy General] Flamaros:
I think now we can just wait to see how the supported device list will grow up in the Bootloader Unlock program of Motorola.

motorola-global-portal.custhelpdotcom/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215

If some are registered to motorola forums it can be nice to show our interest in the add of Defy devices in the Bootloader Unlock program.
[Defy General] josuearisty:
I hope GOOGLE add to the list some old phones including defy and some others before it.

Defy has all the power to manage even JB with no big problems.
[Defy General] panhans:
I hope so, too. I have a defy+. It was released in the end of last year -> Not ONE year on the market.... :\
[Defy General] josuearisty:
This really makes me angry, our phones must receive at least 2 updates from OEMs, doesnt matter if the bootloader is locked, but in that moment they will not release more updates to that phone, they should unlock boot, inmediatly!
[Defy General] g440i:
So the unlock project is stopped already?
[Defy General] mihovil13:
Defy wont be in unlock list cause Moto says only Photon Q and neweer

---------- Post added at 09:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:24 AM ----------

We recieved Froyo after Eclair and in some countries GB
[Defy General] brajesh.sharma87:
And what about Defy+? :D
[Defy General] hackergnome:
from 2.3.5 to .6 and .7

:P thats bs btw
[Defy General] marhensa:
why the ef moto not unlocking bootloader on older device?

since older device got no warranty anymore right?

they wont claim warranty because a defect from unlocked bl.

and also, many people are no longer on carrier contract, which bundled on some defy releases.

older device owner have a right to really own their device.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.1
[Defy General] niksy+:
Because people would stick to their older devices for a longer time if Motorola unlocked them than they will this way. It's all about the money :good:
[Defy General] panhans:
Where did you read that? I can imagine that Motorola applies its lie to us customers, but I'm hopefully waiting for an updated version of the unlock tool with defy(+)-support. :\ So is there a official post out there, where i can read that defy never loose the locked bootloader?
[Defy General] yodawg:
let us for a moment assume that our defy can be unlocked (which will hopefully get true some day...in the near future). will reflashing stock firmware and relocking bootloader restore warranty?
[Defy General] maggedo:
pls close the reply function
[Defy General] panhans:
I wrote to the german motorola-support and asked whats up with the defy bootloader. They answered immediately. I try to translate it:

Yeah, I think this was my last moto. :\
[Defy General] marhensa:
already my last motorola.. :crying:
[Defy General] espaciosalter20:
Seriously, don't expect anything coming from moto. Until GOOGLE don't take full control of that company, don't expect anything on older devices...

Please, Google, don't be evil

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[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Not fr me though.....they have begun unlocking devices.....buildquality is the best.....only a more powerful galaxy s4 or d next nexus phone can trump the pros of an unlocked Moto phone....especially when backed by google
[Defy General] Kayant:
It's been dead for a long time.... Like samcripp stated before this thread lost it's propose a long time

ago..... It was mean to find a update in the moto servers on a previous update that might contain

an unlocked rom or something by was not found... Instead this thread became a talk about what

techniques can be used to unlock or bypass the bootloader like using kexec....
[Defy General] Gafanhotz:
Guys, i know the thread is abandoned, but someone tried the new moto website?

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a

When you register and everything it starts you to take this:

DEVICE ID AND UNLOCK KEY

To unlock your device, you need to retrieve your device ID and obtain an unlock code.

I. RETRIEVING YOUR DEVICE ID

Put your device in fastboot mode (Power+Vol Down) and connect over USB

Open a command prompt or Terminal session

Go to the Directory where you installed the Android SDK tools, and type:

$ fastboot oem get_unlock_data

This fastboot command will return a character string. This is the Device ID which you will be using to generate your unique unlock key.

$ fastboot oem get_unlock_data

(bootloader) 0A40040192024205#4C4D3556313230

(bootloader) 30373731363031303332323239#BD00

(bootloader) 8A672BA4746C2CE02328A2AC0C39F95

(bootloader) 1A3E5#1F53280002000000000000000

(bootloader) 0000000

OKAY

[0.297s]

To generate your unlock code, you’ll need to paste together the 5 lines of output into one contnuous string without "(bootloader)" or white spaces.. Using the example above, the line you’d send us would be:

0A40040192024205#4C4D355631323030373731363031303332323239#BD008A672BA4746C2CE02328A2AC0C39F951A3E5#1F532800020000000000000000000000

Enter your continuous string into the "Request Your Unlock Key" section below.

Someone tried this, anyway? I can't get in the fastboot mode anyway, it just shows me the classic android with exclamation at it's side.
[Defy General] nidhish91:
There is no fastboot for Defy. Only way is via RSDlite while flashing sbf as to my knowledge.
[Defy General] overclockthesun:
Ok sop maybe the command prompt part will have to be done while flashing a.sbf file. Maybe we could try it with a fixede .sbf
[Defy General] mihovil13:
Yes, read their MotoDev blog or ask them using Twitter. Ive asked and they say that they wont unlock BL for older devices than Photon Q

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Google will sell MMI next year to Huawei.

Google doesnt have any influence in Motorola Mobility board and managing, they only own it by stock market.
[Defy General] pjgowtham:
Wait a sec...defy mini xt s sbf s work on defy?..in that case, if they unlock defy mini s bl, we can flash a defy mini sbf, change the boot loader version and unlock it like unlocking a defy mini ryt
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
Dream on...!!!!
[Defy General] pjgowtham:
Anyway is it possible?
[Defy General] AnTerNoZ:
no, the mini has other hardware

Jelly powered.Defy
[Defy General] kryptonitiko:
Moto unlocked the bootloader of some device at unlockmydevice.Com if I remember correctly.....Do you think defy Will be added TO the list?
[Defy General] Boss442:
cant patch a bootloader file in /dev/block?
[Defy General] skeevydude:
Anyone seen this yet???

MS2 successfully booted a custom kernel with 2nd-boot and working radio :) I'm going to test it on my Bravo as soon as I can (currently using my Phone's wifi to upload PA...) Apparently it has some issues, but who cares since its a custom kernel on a locked bootloader with radio, 3g, and wifi :cool:
[Defy General] bharaththeunique:
My God.....this has to reach quarx asap...someone place send him this...

sent from my legendary <<<defy>>>

. Don't forget to hit thanks if I ever helped u!!!!!
[Defy General] hackergnome:
bootloader is not in it! Also we dont have bl source!
[Defy General] Boss442:
old post from old noob :p
[Defy General] turffe:
Found update on defy+ 2.3.4 4.5.1-134 dfp 82 server - master-dev.blurdev.com.

UPDATE: http://narod.ru/disk/63137460001.36131934cec2f8f1114477950fa7a576/unpack this update.rar.html

Set up cluod option on dfp82 :1.wipe all data, 2.when it says welcome to blur, 3.press menu button. 4. choose ,,set up cloud''.

and i cant recreate motoblur acc after wipe it says: cant login try later, so i reflashing 2.3.4 fixedsbf + nandroid

master-qa3.blurdev.com - no update.

master-qa1.blurdev.com - no update.

master-staging1.blurdev.com - no update.

master-lab.blurdev.com - no update

Need to test this:

master-demo.blurdev.com - no update

master-staging1.blurdev.com - no update

master-sdc1.svcmot.com - no update

master-blur.svcmot.com - no update

master-homer.blurdev.com - no update

master-bart.blurdev.com - no update

master-lisa.blurdev.com - no update

master-maggie.blurdev.com - no update

master-marge.blurdev.com - no update

master-bqa1.blurdev.com - no update

master-bqa2.blurdev.com - no update

testcloud01-sdc1.blurdev.com - your phone is updated

master-devtest.blurdev.com - no update at this time
[Defy General] walter79:
GAS_EMEA_UCAJRDNGIBRCOREEU_P017

Thu Sep 29 09:31:02 CDT 2011

only a small update for 4.5.1_134-DFP82 it will update cdt, kernel and recovery.

it is a patch to 4.5.1_134-DFP125
[Defy General] turffe:
Could somebody test it ,maybe this boot.img.p is without signature? And how convert boot.img.p to boot.img?
[Defy General] 57op:
I've downloaded the update you linked.

Basically, boot.img.p is an img file and .p extension may stay for "patch" (or similar). The update-script flash it as a normal boot.img!

Anyway, according to the project cheesecake instructions, under linux shell you have to run:

strings bootloader.img | grep -i unlock

If something is found (i.e. the command print an output).

I tried (replacing bootloader.img to boot.img.p, obviously) and nothing was found, so this update doesn't unlock our defy.
[Defy General] Quarx:
We can compare dumps....

I do not think that there are hardware differences
[Defy General] racca:
the mbm is actually different than many versions (all 09.10) i have

0x1210-0x12B3, more specifically.

i flashed it on my retail one and didn't make a difference.

WARNING it's been suggested mbm_backup doesn't work (not on Milestone at least), so a corrupted mbm will most likely render your phone useless.

mbmloader is identical to retail one.
[Defy General] Quarx:
That so strange, that flash mmcblk1p2 doesn't make any effect...and p1 identical...

maybe look into "lbl", "cdt". "bploader"?