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[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I was just about to comment about community, but its obvious the OP and other people who like to pretend the world doesnt extend beyond their 500 dollar phone have no idea what the word means. This is exactly what happens when the middle of the road IQ class finds an intelligent forum, then loads of full of idiots, and all the smart people leave. Almost wish Froyo never came out, most people who have came here since then just suck, and I miss most all who have left, regardless of whether I agree with them.

Sorry to burst your 'merican little bubble that bad things exist in the world (besides boogeyman terrorists), and you cant just talk about your really expensive phone all day. Hmmm.... OP for a white whine submission?

Wow NoSoMo, just read a couple pages of your posts, two questions, whats it like knowing everything, and why are you not in the 3vo 3Dickextension fourums?

Jbadboy, you can have whatever opinion you like, but thats just a ****ty post... damn....
[Epic 4G General] :
He got a pm by a mod saying that he asked for money in his thread when in reality he was asking for votes. When he told the mod she was wrong she said she corrected her mistake supposedly, then in turn accused his thread as spam. He lost it or got frustrated by her and cursed, another mod jumped in and banned him for TWO MONTHS. If you type ecooce on google you'll see his photo sharing account and the screenshots of what the mod pm'd him
[Epic 4G General] machx0r:
Really?

If "smart people" are leaving because they can't understand the rules and/or choose not to follow them then perhaps they aren't really that smart.

The bottom line is that neither you nor I pay for the resources used to support this forum. The people that do are free to implement and enforce whatever rules they deem necessary.

In any case I still see "off-topic, support my cause" posts that probably belong in the Off-topic forum (it's nice they provide this, most topic specific forums don't want to deal with the hassle...). The only ones that seem to have disappeared were those asking for money.

He was asking for donations.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I have to say, XDA has gotten really mod nazi... and not retracting an error, openly, is just unprofessional... I dont care if she is paid or not. I think if XDA wants to avoid the good devs that use this forum from taking traffic away, they need to lighten up on the so-called non-competitive bit... I see a big facebook F in the corner, were they paid to allow that off-site linking to another forum of sorts?

PLEASE do not carry this part any further, as there are enough discussions about it, but I see Bonsai as a perfect example of XDA blowing it. At first, I really didnt like them splintering off here, only because of convenience, and then when them and the 'man' got into it, the bonsai Dev thread disappeared... so even more inconvenient for me the user... further making me annoyed at the whole situation. I dont necessarily like the business model of Bonsai, but thats MY choice, as a 'consumer', all our choices... the mods need to stick to being traffic cops not thought police.

As far as this thread, look, its obvious that there really isnt much development going on at the moment, as we are waiting for GB official, or more importantly source, so there is not a lot to talk about. Its not like the first 6 mos. where the device was new and everything was being figured out... and the new people can just dig up the old threads. So since a lot of us have been in this forum since launch, and a lot on XDA or similar forums that know each other, we have what we call a community, and in that community, when theres no 'shop' to talk, people will talk about other things, just dont read the threads... dont whine for them to be supressed because you dont care about an issue or feel insecure about it. Just dont read it. As far as Rob, Ecoce, etc... who cares if they talk about other things in their lives that mean a lot to them???? Complaining about why someone hasnt risked their job to provide you a leak is spam, grassroots organizing is not. Rob has always been on top of it with XDA ensuring his Autism Awareness is not breaking any rules... so if you dont care because it doesnt apply to you and your agenda, go back to watching fox 'news'.

This forum needs a dedicated Mod, or at least one actually assigned to it, who will do a good job like impaler and wdm did... and they had how many devices to mod? I think the problem we have now is in part due to this, as the supermods who just come in here because someone whines or flags something they dont agree with have no idea the history behind anyone, or know anything about us... so it becomes impersonal, and they really dont want to deal with it, so they error on the safe side... a ban... wow... that helps.... im pretty sure I can guess which competing forum ecoce is hanging out in right now, seems to be the XDA refugee camp for people annoyed with childish behavior out of users who pop up out of nowhere with BS or supermods making rash, stupid decisions.
[Epic 4G General] :
He didnt ask for no donations whatsoever, if you consider a donation a vote for a child who's family is struggling then, Yes he asked for donation
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Last I saw ecoce was soliciting clicks, votes... ooooh... horrible!

The 'bottom line', 'pay for the resources'... typical boss mentality... well actually we do pay for it, piss off the good devs, they leave, smart users too, users are traffic, traffic is why advertisers PAY for this site to exist.... cmon... follow your thoughts through...

BTW, general is basically off topic, otherwise threads about other devices would be locked/deleted, threads about non-phone specific carrier issues would be in another forum... this is obviously the typical right wing mentality of suppress the bad things in life and block out reality so you dont have to think. Dont click on the threads. THIS thread is off-topic, as its basically cupping mod balls for decisions the OP THINKS they know the reason for, and the ensuing discussion has nothing to do with the phone... soooo... its best you wash your hands of the whole mess and click another 'what phone are you spending your excess money you have from not paying taxes on?' thread.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
It doesnt matter... these people never listen to reason or have any compassion, only care about their precious status symbols.

They like to veil pushing their agendas by suppressing others... so they are really doing the same thing, they are just voting '**** autistic kids' and '**** american families who are struggling in the worst economy since the depression'.... its ok, they just prefer not to come out and say it.
[Epic 4G General] alirocks4u:
Haha this is why I sold my epic and got an evo. This forum is full of crap.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
A) why are you even in this thread then? Just curious...

B) isnt the evo forums worse??? Aside form more devs, I heard the community was a lot worse about off topic bickering...?
[Epic 4G General] machx0r:
You're free to provide source to the original post but it's clear that I (and several others, including a moderator) read it and were under the impression that he was requesting donations.

However that isn't really the issue at hand or what caused him to be banned (assuming he is). It's clear that he was disrespectful in his responses. Why should he be allowed to continue to use these resources while disrespecting those that provide/manage them?

PS: My family "American family" is struggling. My response is to work harder and contribute to society rather than begging for help from those better off than I.
[Epic 4G General] :
Mods deleted the thread he was accused of asking for donations but I got proof of when he was mistaken for it.

http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/ecooce/?src=wap

Check out the first three pics
[Epic 4G General] machx0r:
You "proof" lacks his responses. The ones where he was disrespectful and the ones that caused him to get banned.
[Epic 4G General] :
Like I said mods deleted the thread, the "Proof" I have for you is what provoked him in the first place to get disrespectful.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Ok, so where were the mods when threads such as these were populating the Q&A section? Oh yeah, they don't get moderated since it brings the forum traffic which in turn makes it so they can charge more for advertising space. If I'm not mistaken XDA was originally built as a support group for developers. Looking through this thread I cannot recall ever seeing any DEVELOPERS actually complaining about this but rather the peanut gallery of idiots that I had already expected to see saying exactly what I had already expected them to say.

Now why is it that all of our good developers are jumping ship again?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1138817

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1142737

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1148424
[Epic 4G General] machx0r:
That's funny, I've been responding to this thread AND have developed software for Android... What have you developed?
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
Let's just please let this go. This is clearly not going in a good direction. We are better then this. Just walk away and don't take the bait.
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
NoSoMo dissappeared, but you all who "back him" are the ones who remain arguing? Is there a point in putting yourself further down a hole someone else dug for you? We're a community, we communicate, as a forum we are not meant to micro-moderate unless given the ability to moderate. Bias is an ugly thing on either side of a coin, and that more or less makes our Developers leave, not worthless posts but the excessive bandwagon mentality few show in succession on in our forums, without any knowledge of a topic. General has become interesting to read through with people being themselves, because most posts in the General Section, were about people switching phones for higher specs or bragging rights, most posts like those are without point that benefits anyone, the OP in this thread is one that benefits no one but rather enflames a continuing bias and ego of self entitlement.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
That's great and all, but it belongs in an off topic section. I hate opening. Up either the xda app or the website and having to wade through 10 off topic posts before I get to one that has anything to do with the phone. Normally it wouldn't be a problem to have a few off topic threads when there is major development happening because they are a fraction of the on topic threads. For the last month the general section has been almost nothing but off topic threads.

I am not saying don't make a thread about autism or a friend needing help, I'm just saying put those threads into an off topic section so that general isn't just rumors, people's farewell threads, calls for help and people discussing other phones.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
They really, really need a mod for the evo 3d forums. Lol!
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Didn't disapear, and it's not my backers who are addressing this issue. Just about every single one of you have a valid cause to champion, and I respect you for not doing it here. I asked one of the primary offenders of forum spam to TAKE THE SPAM OUT OF HIS POST AND PUT IT INTO HIS SIG. He was cluttering EVERY SINGLE POST that he posted in with SPAM that DID NOT BELONG IN THE CONTENTS OF THE THREAD.

Can you imagine if every single person included a few lines about a personal issue in every thread? The forum would need twice the DB it currently has as the SPAM that's included in the post would often be larger than the actual post itself.

It's entertaining how others are trying to make it about me. It's not about me, and it's not about this one person that others are mentioning. It is rather interesting though that It's assumed that one person in particular is who who I'm posting about. I haven't mentioned any names, and certainly don't speak about the issue singularly. What you all do is illustrate that it's clear that there is a violator here, and it sounds like it may have caused them an issue. There is no one particular user on here that means any more or less to me; they are all but letters in various orders. Some have earned respect, and others I can't see how any have respect for.

Someone was clearly using THIS forum to further their own personal causes, asking for "Help" or donations or whatever people want to call it.

YOU DON'T HOWEVER post saying this person needs help, blah blah blah, and NOT DO SO TRYING TO SOLICIT FUNDS FROM PEOPLE. STOP BEING FOOLS, GOING AND VISITING A WEBSITE DOES NOT HELP ANYONE. THEY WERE MAKING VEILED REQUESTS FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN "HELP" SANS MAKING A DONATION, and CLEARLY the Mods and Admins saw through the whole scheme.

When is the last time you saw anything that said "Help a child in need" and it didn't have a collection jar under it?

Clearly someone is playing the moron, don't hate the forum and the mods for seeing through it.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Of all the successful and helping things that can be done for a cause, NONE of them include shoving awareness ALL over a forum, or repeatedly into someone's face after they say to stop. None.

When someone addresses the fact that you are being more harmful to a cause, than you are doing good, YOU SHOULD IMMEDIATELY RE-EVALUATE YOUR STRATEGY. Nobody wants negative attention to their cause, not in the slightest. There are typically foundations setup for particular causes, and if you do not understand how to successfully promote it, I'm sure they are willing to give you guidelines. At the top I'm willing to bet you something along the lines of what I've been stating from the first time I addressed someone about continually shoving something into another's face, repeatedly.

One person in particular has already tarnished such a cause in my eyes, to the point where I will not support them, ever. All I can think about is how much of a blowhole the whole group of them must be. Certainly not people I want to interact with or associate with.

I find it interesting that his own buddies 'outted' him. I don't think that is required. I for one DID NOT WANT TO DRAW ANY NEGATIVE ATTENTION TO HIS CAUSE. I have not named it. He went about things the entirely wrong way, and though I feel I will not support that cause any time soon, there is no reason to say what it is for others to see. My issue was and is with how something was conducted. Not the actual person or cause, but the online user identity of the individual. Had I known the actual person, I may contact a foundation, or what ever else may exist for the cause, and ask them to send him information on GOOD fund raising practices, and how to raise awareness without forcing it in people's faces.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
This thread is pointless. All you needed to say was "Thanks mods for keeping it clean" and you could've done that via pm. This thread violates the rules, just so you know, which you seem so against other people doing.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
+1

OP one thing to keep in mind karma is a mother****er hope you never need "help" from said community
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Had I known who was responsible, I would have PM'd them too. There isn't exactly a Mod Log or anything that lets us know who cleaned it up.

However, I do still feel the post is valid as everyone who had to see the spam added into the contents of posts, and the threads created concerning it, can now understand that it's been taken care of. A single thread, thanking and illustrating the issue was the right thing to do, instead of posting into other threads.

The issue was out of hand, the violations happened numerous times a day on multiple threads. I'm not going to avoid a thread just because someone spams it with every post. This is but one thread, and there will not be another that follows it. It's easy to avoid something if it's centralized and the title of what it is, is clear.

This thread is close to its end, and when its done, members will not be continually bombarded with its contents in other posts, numerous times a day.

This is one of the last places I would come for help with personal issues. I have more respect for the collective than to continually shove things in their face. I don't beg the masses, and rarely do I ask friends and family for anything. If I was to be in need of something, I understand that more could be achieved in the local community in one weekend, than what could be had pestering a cell phone forum. If there was members here who I feel I could ask, I still most likely wouldn't. We're not buddies, we don't hang out, I expect nothing like that from this place. This isn't super best friends club. I would make a website trying to garner support, and at most would link a few people to it. Furthermore, I'd setup a donation page on one of the donation sites that I would link to from said page. I would post to my friends on facebook, and email friends and family. I'd try and get advertising space on places where I think it would do the most good. The issue being address was clearly the wrong way to go about it, period.

FURTHERMORE, if someone is in dire need of help, selling a phone that has a value of up to $300 AND going with a cheaper one, and a pay as you go plan for $ 35 flat / month will save about $40 / month for $480 savings this year, plus the ~ $250 value of the phone being sold quick would be $730 in just a years time. After 2 years that's $1,200. Seriously, if times are that tough, get with some drastic measures. There are all sorts of things one can do in their own life, before coming and asking others to make concessions on their behalf.
[Epic 4G General] sinnnXDA:
This thread is as bad as the trolling threads. I vote to ban the OP for cluttering this fine Epic thread sector. By the way... Im new.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Seriously, you resorted to making a new account Sinnn?

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
That's not odd or anything :rolleyes: Using a proxy server eh?

I guess you haven't really viewed the EVO forum? Those guys are something else. I generally get the impression they're a younger crowd, though it could just be a handful of them. I notice a type of 'apple fanboi syndrome' in some EVO owners. Such attitude typically revolves around not being able to accept that their device isn't quite as good as they'd like it to be, but they defend the hell out of it anyway.

Couldn't agree more :-)
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
FTFY
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Amen man, I appreciate you coming clean.....
[Epic 4G General] ralf_97:
Tw if u dnt like how things are here than get the fuk out of here! :) instead of making this ass kissin topics u should create ur own website and make ur own forums and keep it spam free. U are worse than an iphone and htc fanboy!!!

Sent From The Evo 3D's PIMP!
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
This forum is supposed to have a focus, a topic that is the purpose for its existence - android development. Anything else really shouldn't be here at all. While I feel that there should be no problem with the occasional stray into an unrelated topic, the problem is that so many people lack objective judgment - they will recognize that someone else's post doesn't belong, while simultaneously expecting to be able to make similarly unrelated posts, because they fail to recognize that they are doing the same thing they criticize others for.

It's just easier if we all stay on topic, and if you really have something important to say about something completely unrelated to android development, guess what - there's a forum for that ;)

(no, that forum isn't on XDA - google is your friend, though)
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
My comprehension may be a little off but from the rules I read ALL THE POSTS IN HERE ARE SPAM

The epic is cheaper in Hawaii

Except mine it has epic related information the rest of you are just spewing hate Its becoming harder for me to keep my epic due to some of the heartless people on here However we are in America what was I thinking expecting civil peple.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Americans are by a large margin the most charitable people on the planet. There is however a structure to our methods, and even those in-need, need to respect it. There probably isn't member on this forum whose family hasn't faced hardships like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimers, etc.... But they don't bring it on here, and all but demand support for such personal issue. Every single one of us have reasons to beat our drums for causes, but it's out of respect for everyone else that we don't. It doesn't belong here. There's no other way to say it. That's not some opinion I came up with after seeing numerous threads SPAM'd with personal issues, it's an understanding we all have and respect. I haven't seen anyone else inject their personal problems into every post they make, yet every single 'poster' on the forum has but the same reasons to, that have made the one particular member do what they did.

People think that just because it's something that involves them, it's somehow super important, and trumps everyone else's rights not have it thrown in their face. Everyone's issues are the most important to them, but they have the ability to understand that it's not the only thing going on in this world. We ALL have issues equally important, but this isn't the place for it, and virtually everyone else respects that. Just because one of you may be buddies with the one particular person this thread has seemed to be about, doesn't make his actions more or less wrong. They were out of place, they are out of place, and he had no right to continue to post it every time he responded to a thread. It's just that simple, yet several people are trying to make it about anything but. His issue isn't more important than yours, mine, or anyone else's. It's literally just that simple. I do not appreciate, and I'm sure others do not as well, someone continually posting about their personal issues as if they're any more important than anyone else's. They're not. I feel mine are 10x more important, but I'm not going to bother members of the forum with them around every corner.

I made this post to thank the Mod/s that put an end to it. This thread is the only place it will be addressed, and it's easy to not enter this thread if you do not want. A member should not have to sort through every post on every thread because someone is trying to get you to support some personal issue of theirs. It's disrespectful to members and counter-productive to the cause.

Nobody in this thread is telling anyone else what to support, or to donate money, or go read something about their cause. It addresses an issue that was all over many threads, had a few of its own threads, and was blatantly out of control.
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
Didn't I see a recent tweet about ptfdmedic thinking about leaving xda? I bet this thread and threads like it is a part of the reason why.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Man I wish that old moderator was still around who kept everything clean and organized. And actually straightened up this forum. Can't remember his name at all...

Anyways, I wish Ecooce came to me right away when this happen. I didn't even hear about this. I can get this fixed asap.
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
Yeah, "whosdamod", man I can't remember. We could have used him, for sure. ;-)
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
This thread is
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khane_bozorg:
How do I get the phone back to factory state

because it was routed, and Bluetooth disabled and never be actived again

What should I do?

any body can help me

this is very important to me the blutooth activated again

Thanks
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jungbum:
You can go back to stock ROM by downloading i9023 full ROM, move the file to sdcard and flash ROM from recovery.

It should take you back to factory default state and bootloaders locked.
[HTC Inspire 4G] yokozuna82:
I have a custom Rom can I install the update from HTC ? I have cognition Rom it has no HTC Facebook integration in it how do I get it ?