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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skennelly:
Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?

Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.

posting & replying via my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skennelly:
Awesome! Thank you very much. I'm on my phone now, so I'll check it out when I get to my laptop.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lil_bono:
Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.

Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skennelly:
Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.

Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tropicalbrit:
You need S-Off for permanent root and ability to flash custom ROMs. So before you take the OTA for him, as long as the phone is 2.2, run Unrevoked once again and install AmonRa.

Does he even like Sense? I would suggest trying one of the setups from my sig, or even MIUI if he doesn't need 4G.

You could have S-On and get the OTA, which would make his phone unrootable and boring, or you could just root back and flash a ROM with better battery life (I hear that Calkulin's works great, but so do other ROMs)

Before you do anything, try showing him pictures of MIUI, SalvageMod, MikG or another ROM and ask what he likes best.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tropicalbrit:
Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
I understood from your earlier post that your brother-in-law didn't need root and thus the reasons for the answers I gave. Yes, he can accept the OTA while S-ON and he will indeed upgrade his device to 2.3.3, however, should he wish to unroot afterwards, he won't be able to until an exploit can be found. I take it your friend isn't the type of person who flashes roms, mods, kernels and such.

posting & replying via my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LCL22:
check your hboot version and S off status

if its hboot 2.16 and S on, you are boned since you unrooted it when you took the gb update

so basically...dont tell your friend that you screwed his chances to root yourself lol

the correct route would have been to flash with a rooted stock GB ota wich was already out there, but its too late now : /

welcome to the "wait for root" boat with us, leave your bags by the door you will be here a while
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LCL22:
you can thether without being rooted

download pdanet app on phone and on pc you want to tether on

hotspot requires root or paying sprint though
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skennelly:
I really appreciate everyones help, don't get me wrong. However, I'm sitting here doing all this research and trying to get help for my in-law who thought he needed root and wanted to tether. He doesn't even use tether. I'm not showing him any custom roms. He lives three hours away and i'd be doing all his leg work/fixing his problems.

All I want to do (and him as well) is get him to gb stock unrooted and be done with his phone.

So, if the s-on is on, but the su app is still in the app drawer, and the pc36img.zip failed. If he selects settings>about phone>check for updates, will this get him to gb?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
Yes, he should be able to do as you stated above and be updated to 2.3.3?

Posting & replying from my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skennelly:
Thank you
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gorilla*:
I have my Inc running Cm7 7.1 RC1

Radio 2.15.10.05.06

Kernel Chads Incredikernel 7062011

Why the hell is this setup so unstable?

Some days it runs fine.. Other days I get force closes on messaging, Android market, the camera,

Its so annoying..

To everyone else how stable is your phone on an every day basis?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TheLynxy:
Exact same setup as you, once in awhile FC on startup for a few apps, but no FC otherwise. what's really annoying though is sometimes entire system becomes unresponsive and auto reboots

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] POQbum:
Wrong section to post this thread btw

If you undervolted your kernel then this is a common issue, and it means you should raise the voltages.

--

Also I haven't gotten any FC's running CM7.1 #106 nightly.

If it's bugging you enough and you want to *try* and fix it then I suggest you flash the latest nightly (#136 or 137) - but make sure you do a full wipe and format /system. Also clear all your caches. If you do restores from TIbackup then make sure you don't restore data.

That's all I can suggest, hope your problems with CM gets sorted out eventually.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SteveG12543:
^ Also try fixing permissions.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running a random CM7 nightly.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gorilla*:
im not undervolted... sounds like cm needs a better stable code
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gorilla*:
i fixed permissions
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Troy89:
I get the force closes and unresponsiveness time to time no matter what rom. Most of the time it's an app but every once in while it is a system app.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
A lot of times it is poorly written apps not the rom. Run without any apps and you will see your phone runs great for a long time. Unfortunately theres no way to know if an app is written well without trying it. I wish google had a better way to control this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MagnaCore:
I'm on and off CM. Ive been running 7.1.0. for about a week havent had a problem/FC. I have also restored app+data using TBU even though it isn't recommended Do you have this problem with any other roms.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] suprafreak1000:
lol, cm's code is fine...

Usually things like this are user error/app related, and if not, then most likely something wrong with your phone. Otherwise we would see a mass amount of users reporting these problems. Which we don't..

Running CM7, I've had no fc's at all, no app problems, etc when following instructions, other than in the past some of the legitimate bugs that have popped up, and been fixed.

Did you flash RC1 over a nightly or any other previous CM build?, restore apps with Ti-Backup, Over or underclocked the kernel at all, Other various things that could result in fc's? Might wana try just running with no apps like nfiniti9 said, on a fresh install, Default kernel, and then see what happens.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dirtsky:
I used the same setup besides the radio. I'm using 2.15.00.11.19 and I found it to be really buggy as well. Right now I'm using nightly 130 and incredikernel 06192011. I found this kernel to be more stable for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ToyTank:
I have same setup with aggressive undervolt script from chad. Have not had a force close or reboot yet, and I have been using RC1 since it dropped, and nightlies for weeks before that. I am using the new GB leak radio also.

Obvious, but have you done a full clean wipe/flash? Check MD5 sum?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mercutio5:
CM7RC3

Latest Incredikernel

Never changed radio

100% stable
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
OMFGB nightly 7-05

chads beta 2 with usb fast charge

stock radio

800 min voltage and -25 max voltages.

nothing to complain about, stock battery lasts anywhere from 5- 13 hours depending how hard i use it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gorilla*:
any issues i was having i think i found out the problem... i was uaing titanium to restore after a full wipe and i was restoring all my settings wbich messed the phone up again after a clean wipe... this time i got smarter and did a clean wipe but i only restored my applications instead of system settings... this seems to have fixed issues for now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] facedown41:
Running cyanogenmod 7.0.2.1 and I'm about to switch to 7.0.3 because I'm getting a lot of force closes lately, running the latest incredikernel as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
1. This doesn't belong in development. Being a QUESTION, it would be much better suited to Q&A.

2. The OP is the fool that was trolling Chad's thread.

Facedown41 - I'd recommend flashing the latest nightly, its perfectly stable with a lot of new features. 7.0.3 is a bit dated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jaypr9:
Same here. I just started using CM for about a week or so but so far not 1 fc 100% stable and fast.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
Cm7 7.1 RC1 <---- problem right there.

RC = 100% stable.

im still on 7.0.3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bravesfan171:
The solution to your problem is to run a cache cleaner. This happened to me many times before and if you run it, it clears up a lot of space in the data/data partition so your apps have room in the memory to run w/o force closing!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hightech316:
I use Joelz advice when Installing new rom ( format everything x3 and fix permissions in cwm ) . Never get FC
[Droid Incredible Android Development] margelef:
I am on latest CM7 nightly and was getting random FC every once in a while. I was able to narrow it down to the fact that some of my Google Apps were installed to SD card.

I think for some reason the SD card would become unmounted or just too slow(?) and would cause a force close in something like Market, Voice, or Reader. Once one of those apps goes down, it would cause Google Framework FCs. Then my phone would be completely unstable until a reboot.

I made sure that any app by Google is on my phone instead of SD card and I've been rock solid ever since.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] psitech:
I've had fc issues for a few weeks now and can't find any resolution. It's to the point my phone is pretty much not usable. I'm on CM7 and have tried 7.1 and a few different nightlies. I have wiped and cleared everything when loading the rom, fixed permissions, installed new gapps. Nothing seems to help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OLDsJUNKIE:
Running CM 7.0.0 with kernel 2.6.37.4 and the 2.15.00.04.08 radio. Been so solid I'm not changing a thing!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] light_n_roses:
Hi !

I was looking for a way to add more pages to android home, I use the sense interface and it has some many widget that I think that it's a shame to use just 7 ..

Also I was looking to a way to change background to the all app menu ( I know that probably isn't possible but I really can't understand the thing of the black background...)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] light_n_roses:
any help ?!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] benjymous:
Try a different launcher - most of the third party replacement launchers let you configure the number of home screens, backgrounds, etc.

Just open up the Market and search for "launcher" - Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, Zeam Launcher and ADW Launcher are popular ones - have a play with them until you find one you like!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] light_n_roses:
emh actually I forgot to mention that I would like to do this with htc sense....so I think that those app can't help me !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dipaolnv:
You might consider sending a pm to CookieMonster. He did things with HTC Sense on Windows Mobile that nobody including HTC could do.

He doesn't seem to be around much anymore but here is his thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=792303 Maybe someone from his team may have some thoughts.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] light_n_roses:
i know but I doubt that he would like to work on this considering that hasn't been active for a while. anyway I'll give it a try.

and yes manila was much more better in my opinion...android is to close and some of its properties are bad...it's not possible to have a menu app with forced black background...also the stories of only 7 pages is stupid...

No customization at all !!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] blueis300:
I use adw launcher and its great. You can change the icons on the bottom row along with a main button. You can change the amount of icons that are horizonal and vertical. Change scrooling all kinds of cool stuff.

Here is the .apk. Not sure if any other files need to go with it as I havent installed it in awhile.

Numerous different ones. I actually might try something different.

https://market.android.com/develope...GwsbnVsbCxudWxsLDEsIm9yZy5hZHcubGF1bmNoZXIiXQ..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] light_n_roses:
does it work in combination with sense ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] light_n_roses:
sadly I'm still without solution
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ErvMeister:
When you touch the home it vibrates but no response, same for the search key?

How can i fix this!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Flash a stock rom with odin

sent from my sgs4g 2.3.3, finally
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ErvMeister:
I found the problem was the KC1 i flashed using odin. I reflashed back to KF1 and back over to KF2, working great!

Thanks for the advice.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvargas:
Hello everyone. I hope some one can help me with my problem. so i bought a HTC EVO 4g and then i flashed it to boostmobile. I was wondering if i flash a new rom or kernel to my phone would it mess up my network. meaning, i wont be able to use my phone with boost mobile unless i get it flashed to boost mobile, wich by the way i paid 75$ to get it done, again?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
If I'm not mistaken, when you flash a different rom, you will need to reconfigure it for boost mobile. The kernel *shouldn't * affect it, but, I'm only guessing. I suggest you post your question in the boost mobile thread, if you're able to.

posting & replying via my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvargas:
thanks for your reply, but i think ill wait for more opinions...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvargas:
i forgot to ad that my phone is running on froyo 2.2 and im trying to update my rom to gingerbread 2.3
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louforgiveno:
only setting youll need to fix is the ms server url >.set to http://mm.myboostmobile.com

in ##3282# on sense rom

do a nand bkup in recovery just for safety
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvargas:
Thanx for the help. I have another question though. So when I press ##3282# on my phone it opens up a page with two opitions. One is view and the other says edit. When I press edit it ask me for the password. My question is what's the password?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zac95:
Download msl reader from the market, it will give your msl code, which is that password
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] B4LLS4GN4:
Was flashing ICBINB rom and forgot to make a nandroid backup and didn't convert to EXT4 before flashing. Now I am stuck in CWM and phone will not boot. Tried flashing a stock rom via odin, but that wouldnt work either. Any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jager555:
Since you can get into cwm, you can fix it. factory reset, wipe cache, check mounts, flash ext4, flash rom, reboot and see if it runs
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] :
if the above doesnt work pm me and ill send you a link for a stock nandroid
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Well, you definitely only soft bricked at most. What do you mean by you can't flash a stock ROM via Odin? Can you give more details?

It should be easily fixed by Odin. You should Odin KC1, since KD1 has a corrupt system partition.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] combat goofwing:
To do a full wipe.factory reset or wipe via recovery

ASUS TRANSFORMER PRIMED
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smartoto:
http://www.motorolaatrixforum.com/a...x-4g-system-boot-file-leaked-by-sbf-t115.html
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Thanks, but this has been known for a while. If you read the red lettering in the post: BriefMobile cannot be held responsible for device damage due to this guide..

Means Kenneth Penn and probably most devs were playing with this months ago, as the post is from March.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshyy_rey:
"A" for effort
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nhc931:
Okay, what one-click root method, if any, can be applied after the latest OTA update (1.70.605.0)? I just bought the phone already updated, and I cannot find if there is one compatible. I'm to much of a noob to root without one click, so don't send me in that direction please! Any help is appreciated, Nick
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Absolute_Zero:
Easyroot is about as close as you're going to get to a one-click for the Thunderbolt.

It should still work fine after the latest OTA.

Easyroot: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1005292

Instructions: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=552281&d=1301123842
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redzone98:
Has this worked for you with the Thunderbolt ?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JBO1018:
Or you could just go to http://revolutionary.io Those easy root scripts are notoriously unreliable. I would also recommend getting ADB up and running and learn to use it and fastboot as well. They can be life savers when you get in trouble.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Absolute_Zero:
Yea, I saw Rev had another update for Tbolt yesterday so maybe it will work nicely for you.

Seriously though...if you're looking at Easyroot vs Manual method....learn from other panicking users and go the Manual route.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=996616
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RunNgun42:
Disagree. I looked at the manual vs easyroot method, and if your goal is to just flash custom roms, then theres nothing useful about learning ADB and what any of it means/does. Thats like saying to use windows you should learn C++.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loonatik78:
No. That isn't accurate by any stretch of the imagination. It's more accurate to say if you want to use Windows, you should learn something about command line DOS. You absolutely SHOULD and I'm fairly certain most devs would agree. Please don't advocate ignorance.

I'm disappointed by the OP's flat rejection of obtaining new skills to perform a somewhat technical task and I think we, as a community, should not support that attitude, but rather foster an environment of support and encouragement towards increasing knowledge and experience.

Furthermore, the Revolution and AlphaRevX sites are still down which means obtaining a beta key to use their tools will not be possible. When these or other resources become reliable in the eyes of their creators as alternatives to the jcase method, and I have time to evaluate them, I will be adding them to my thread stickied at the top of this Q&A section. Until then, if your concern is to backup data before a manual root, then I'd suggest TwistedUmbrella's tools to perform that task.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Absolute_Zero:
While the comparison of learning C++ to typing (or copy/pasting) ADB commands that are listed verbatim in procedural order for you is a spot on* comparison, I will also have to disagree.

The problem is that when these scripts error/do not work (and they do quite often) the user has no idea whatsoever the step that caused the error. I'm going to have to say that the majority of users on here (along with a large number of users that panicked when the auto rooting scripts screwed up) will agree that the manual method is the way to go. Not only does it help you troubleshoot if something didn't work and therefore get help faster (b/c you know what command errored) but the failure rate is much lower to begin with. The manual method is actually very quick and painless (as many users have noticed after trying the auto scripts). Maybe it's just people's avoidance of anything that says "manual".

I suppose I (along with a majority of users here) will have to agree to disagree with you.

*read "not even remotely reasonable"
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yareally:
C++ is much harder to learn than adb (and perhaps one of the harder languages period to master due to the leadway it gives a user to screw things up). C++ you actually learn something useful. I dont think anyone will hire you because of your 1337 adb copy/paste skills alone ;)

Overall I'd say that was a metaphor fail. I'd say learning to use adb is more like learning to use cmd.exe. Mostly useless unless you really really really need to do something out of the ordinary.

*full disclosure: i hate cmd.exe and use cygwin when on windows :)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JBO1018:
So while your flashing those ROMS you end up with a bad flash and bad luck loving to come all at once your recovery gets corrupt as well. On top of that you don't have any recent backups for apps or a nandroid. Now the link to the bootloader flashable recovery is down. So now what?

Not the most likely scenario but still very possible. I guarantee when someone says "oh that's easy just fastboot a recovery on" your going to be wishing you had learned how to fix your phone before you messed it up.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RunNgun42:
Sure you could end up with a bad flash as a result of improper script. But if you were just copy/pasting command lines then you still dont know wtf to do, so what difference does it make? In fact, since all of you are advocating just copy/pasting one line at a time, exactly what the hell are you learning from this process? You still have no idea what any of the commands mean or what they're doing, you're just taking 10x as long to do what a batch file does for you.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JBO1018:
Because if you copy and paste the commands one by one and you run into a problem at least you know what step it happened on. So now when you go asking for help you can provide some useful information to those trying to help you.

Revolutionary makes all that moot in a way. The fact remains however you can still very easily end up in a situation where you need to fastboot a recovery on. So having ADB and fastboot installed and working plus knowing how to use them are definitely things EVERYONE who is rooted SHOULD know.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JBO1018:
I also just found another damn good reason to know how to use ADB and fastboot. Until Alpharev and Unrevoked release an s-on tool the ONLY way, I'm fairly certain, to get back to stock s-on after using Revolutionary or the hard patched hboot is with fastboot and a special command.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hot Carl:
Hmm.. pardon my confusion, but I just came back from a jcase thread on how to root and in red letters, it says NOT to use that method anymore.. that it was outdated. But if the Revolution and AlphaRevX methods are not available then the jcase method is really the only option.

I am all for learning how to do this. I never was a monkey at a keyboard that just followed a flow chart to solve a problem, I want to know what I am doing. But while I am still reading and learning, it would be helpful to know what I am reading is correct, up to date, and not out of date as I am no expert at rooting yet. Maybe a different disclaimer on that post is in order?