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[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
1. Moto blur is even more bloated than sense

2. not a chance in hell it'll be unlocked

3. Motorola is the apple of android

4. Ugly phone

5. Its not HTC :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Ranger093:
I honestly am almost 100 percent sure Sprint has a hand at having these bootloaders locked. Doesn't make sense why the Photon wouldn't be unlocked.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Then why will the EVO 3d be "unlocked"

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Wish this was the GS2 instead of the photon then hell yes I would. Ill probably go check it out to see how I like it though.
[HTC EVO 3D] ultra78721:
I'm getting it just to try it out then return it back

Ulllllllllllltttrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Razgriz:
Protip: Engadget is almost always a day behind when it comes to reporting on anything Android. Follow Android Central.

I'm thinking about getting it just for ****s and giggles.
[HTC EVO 3D] rlaw:
My original plan was to upgrade to the EVO 3d and then return it in the 30day window for the photon.

However, I did not think I would enjoy the EVO 3d as much as I do.

Since I've only had the EVO 3d for a couple of days now, I can afford to wait for the photon to be in consumer's hands for a week, week and a half or so to see what initial reports are like.

If I switch, it'd be for battery life and the increased storage at this point really.

I have no use for the docks or gsm.

I've heard mixed reports about lentils displays too.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
Sorry but no. Sprint said they did not ask for it, it was the OEM's decision to do so.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Silly baseless statement of the thread here.

Moto said they were not releasing unlocked phones till end of yr to begin with. Htc started locking with other carriers first, and said they will unlock the 3D anyway now.
[HTC EVO 3D] xBryan:
not giving up my 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] fdavila17:
I'm not switching to anything till HTC send another EVO I think it will be the 4d lol
[HTC EVO 3D] bckoolaid:
For those doubting the OP or curious about the release date, here is the article from Sprint's newsroom posted today announcing launch date as the 31st. http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1972&view_id=6654
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
There is little evidence to support this. Motorolas on VZW were locked for at least a year while HTC's nor Samsung's ever were

tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
....there's a confusing (or more likely confused) use of terminology going on here. I won't tell you what it is, so don't ask, but, there are at least 3 things wrong here. There might be more...I don't know....I'm not a doctor.
[HTC EVO 3D] joehunni:
Weren't Motos like rigged to blow at one point upon achievement of root? Moto should've quit at the Razr while they were ahead.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
the "eFuse" debacle was confusingly reported. It wouldn't actually damage anything, but it would refuse to boot up if it found an "unauthorized" kernel...EVO4G had the same tech in it from what I understand, not utilized, but, it's been a common feature of certain types of chips for a while...it was repairable....via software...via adb.

..it's only slightly more dramatic than not allowing something to flash in the first place.
[HTC EVO 3D] joehunni:
Brilliant...
[HTC EVO 3D] rlaw:
Any word on the pentile display?
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
Its motobur lite not motoblur, big difference, it is almost stock.

It will have better call quality, some people like to make calls and better 2d camera then the e3d. And the only us version of the gs2 that has been comfirmed has the same nvidia chipset as the photon. Just saying..

And the atrix bootloader is already unlooked, so this one is almost the same.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I take it your basing "call quality" off reviews I think the EVO 3d is in the top 5 android phones I've had (i have had atleast 10 different devices... G2x being the worst call quality)

And I thought it was motoblur ghost or something... Never heard of motoblur "lite".

And yeah the atrix is unlocked but doesn't mean the photon will have enough development support to "crack it". Whitin your time frame.. because I'm sure your one of those people that want the 3vo unlocked in 30 days or you walk.....

Just seems like a step back from the evo3d in my opinion...but I'm sure none of you care

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
Sorry...the only way I would switch to photons is when my phasers are useless against their shields.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
No I am one of those who returned my EVO 3d because it had the worse call quality than any phone I have ever own and a worse camera than my ogevo.

It dropped calls in my house and I live 2 blocks away from the 4g tower. Went back to my cm7 EVO.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Lolz

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Did you try a different EVO 3d because I have like one bar where I live and at work... Never lost a call yet...

And yeah I'm not gonna go there with the camera **** cuz I don't wanna start trolling on you :p

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] tsalate:
I'm not gonna switch but I will be getting it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
Yeah I tried 3 different one's, all the same. Loved the form factor and screen. Hated the 3d and the camera and sense.

I would have loved to see it running CM7, I bet it would have been sweet, But I like to use my phone to also make calls, silly me.

I will give the photon a try and if it sucks, then I will just stick with my ogevo till Prime comes out.

And don't worry about trolling, this site is troll central, it doesn't bother me.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Well to each their own... But I don't seen the photon getting unlocked any time before the 3d. (yeah we had a month head start)

And i found even with pure vanilla android on the g2x

The tegra 2/nvidia was only good for the tegra zone app... Other than that it was junk...

And the only decent thing I can come up with to say about Motorola is they do make a quality device (low quality issue returns). Well from what ive seen

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
I don't know what exactly is is called but Moto said they are getting rid of Motoblur in future phones. And the one found in this device is "supposed" to have all the motoblur stripped out except for the social media stuff. So it going to be almost stock android. there other sprint (virgin mobile) phone called the TRIUMPH is just straight stock, no motblur at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Moto > HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] Quis89:
I thought I read that Motorola was going to go with unlocked bootloaders in late 2011?
[HTC EVO 3D] VintageSin:
Am I the only one to note that data signals do not affect call quality...

cout << "3VO" << endl;
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Maybe in a few things but this is the real deal...

HTC>samsuck>MOTO>LG>Sony>Nokia>keyocera

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
lol,

I did know that and the cell tower and 4g tower are in the same spot. the issue was with the radio in the phone and not the towers. I was just trying to point out that I am not living in the sticks somewhere.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
If Moto>HTC and samsung > HTC, why even waste your time with HTC's phones? With so many comparable devices coming down the line I don't get why you bother with HTC when your preferred manufacturers are releasing phones as well.

tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] fernando sor:
Best post today
[HTC EVO 3D] SpyFi:
Fish n Chips

Older Tegra 2 + 1GHZ as Opposed to 1.2 or like mine OC to 1.8. No Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] Anon9mouz:
Why bc maybe he's like me and can switch phones like he switches his clothes all wanna try new things idk that's why I do it plus its hard to satisfy me. I wouldn't mind check out photon I mean 40 or do gigs that love memory and its the same size as evo just suck its 1g compared to the 3d 1.2 so idk but I would like to try a tegra 2 phone see how it is who knows it might be better
[HTC EVO 3D] antiphon:
Not Pentile. It'll be a TFT screen. That would have been a dealbreaker for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] jamaicansolja:
Why are manufactures still putting Tegra2's in devices? I mean is it not been proven to be the worst CPU ? Can't even decode H.Profile Video.... What's the point of Tegra2 Vs.Qualcomm ? O yeah... TegraZone

Pfffftt

Reason I have no Android Tablet they are all cluttered with Tegra 2 POS
[HTC EVO 3D] bbedward:
My 3vo is going back, hate the call quality, only sprint phone the other person has to repeat everything for me tl understand.

Also my data cuts out once in awhile, I kinda liked my og evo more
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I'm actually surprised you put samsung second, considering your signature.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I've owned more Samsung phones than HTC.. and more Motorola's than Samsung...

This is samsungs business ethics

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Exactly what Anon said. I've got another upgrade available and this one must count. I like evo but have been bored since I purchased it....i've actually been updating my epic themes without an epic lol. I actually posted that to get Nates response, but I think moto/htc are in the same category. Both phones outside feel great and have a lot of potential but neither manufacturer likes devs.

Samsung's pro in every way that counts to me, so once sgsii hits (or the nexus prime by them?) Ill grab myself that. But im not,complaining much about my evo, just wish I could do some theming for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] wormyMNT:
No Thx, photon-- not 3D, no DLNA, vid in 720p, blur, no hotspot(or at least I haven't read about it having a hotspot)... EVO 3D-- 3D, DLNA, mhl for charging and hdmi, 2D vids 1080p 3D vids 720p, HTC sync, hotspot.. so no doubt about it, the EVO 3D is way better
[HTC EVO 3D] buck1623:
correction made...
[HTC EVO 3D] wormyMNT:
What did u correct?? The 2D vid??? Look it up on the phone and in print. EVO 3D shoots 2D vids in 1080p
[HTC EVO 3D] wormyMNT:
Here some comparison

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d-and-motorola-photon-specs-comparison
[HTC EVO 3D] hdnet1:
Wish mine did.
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Much better... Good job!
[HTC EVO 3D] mwalt2:
Do you own an Evo 3D? It does not shoot 1080p. Sprint said it was a 'typo'.
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Helpful...I'll check but think it records in 1080
[HTC EVO 3D] LostRib:
Sprint changed it. It will play 2d video in 1080p but records 720 2d video. People believe it may be a Software limitation

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] wormyMNT:
Yea I have an EVO 3D, I bought it the day it can out.. and everywhere it says 1080.. and I didn't know that was a typo, if true. Either way, no diff. EVO 3D is still better
[HTC EVO 3D] thajacka:
looks ugly, im really not too impressed with my evo3d of my regular evo, but im not returning it for the photon, sgs2 might be a different story, but by then i might not be able to return it, might try the airrave upgrade at that point
[HTC EVO 3D] rlaw:
That the photon hasn't yet been reported to support the 800mhz esrm band gives me pause.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
By the time Sprint kills nextel and you're actually able to use that band youll probably be 2 or 3 phones past the 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] rlaw:
In 3-6mos time? I'm in it for the long haul, baby.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigjim1488:
Sg2 price scares me. Buying it out of contract will be frightening. At least you can get the 3d for like 350 on eBay
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
3-6mo? sorry but nextel phones will still be operating on the band then so your evo3d wont be able to use it in that time frame. try 1-2yrs at least.
[HTC EVO 3D] rlaw:
I was under the impression project leapfrog would provide tangible benefits for non iDEN handsets by late 2011.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nattiboy2326:
Where can I find a red rosie with a sms symbol for the right button, and hell maybe even the red to match my Swype keyboard with the shine look to it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
What rom are you using?

posting & replying via my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nattiboy2326:
synergy rc1 i have my red tittle bar now id like the red fb and rosie i also got my red swype on,
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roscoenr:
here is something you can look at if that is not what you want let me know and i can try to work my magic for you
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougjamal:
I'm glad you saw the this post, Roscoe. Your Red Dawn theme is exactly what came to mind when I initially read this post....:)...and that is why I asked what rom he was using.
[General Topics] atticus182:
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220813246231

The seller doesn't have any feedback yet so it might be a scam, but we have PayPal protection and for just 17€ it's well worth the risk imho :)

Turned out to be a scam after all.. Got this e-mail from eBay:

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[General Topics] jianC:
Heh, I might have to try out one of those myself ;)

The screen doesn't look so great though, you can see the finish is somewhat dull..
[General Topics] watt9493:
Would be nice to have just for letting the girl friend read when she comes over

Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
[General Topics] justwondering:
wow thanks for letting us know.
[General Topics] sharper00:
If it's too good to be true...
[General Topics] epicBuM:
Then it's true?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] furt890:
So I sent my 10.1v 2 weeks ago and I got it here today, the screen had a thin blue line and it is solved now, but another problem pops up. My network doesn't want to change to HSDPA, instead it is stuck in EDGE mode, is it hardware problem or can I solve it when I flash another ROM ?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] furt890:
I just want to make sure whether it is hardware problem or software problem.

bump
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattrb:
I have CM7.1 RC. I performed the flash back to stock (I guess 3g does not work there either because its slow) and the profile and prl update.

I have the newest radio. I do not know why I only get 1x. I get 4g though my Chicago.

Please offer tips.
[HTC Sensation] tech_p:
Tmobile doubled the 4g speeds in 56 cities today. info via http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-doubles-4g-speed-56-cities

Allentown, Pa.; Anderson, S.C.; Asheville, N.C.; Ann Arbor, Mich.; Baltimore, Md.; Barnstable, Mass.; Bellingham, Wash.; Bloomington, Ind.; Boise, Idaho; Boston, Mass.; Bremerton, Wash.; Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn.; Brunswick, Ga.; Carson City, Nev.; Charlotte, N.C.; Charlottesville, Va.; Chico, Calif.; Coeur d’Alene, Idaho; Eugene, Ore.; Flagstaff, Ariz.; Flint, Mich.; Greensboro, N.C.; Greenville, S.C.; Harrisburg, Pa.; Hartford, Conn.; Indianapolis, Ind.; Knoxville, Tenn.; Lafayette, Ind.; Lancaster, Pa.; Laredo, Texas; Lynchburg, Va.; Manchester, N.H.; Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn.; New Haven, Conn.; Ogden, Utah; Providence; R.I.; Provo, Utah; Raleigh-Cary, N.C.; Redding, Calif.; Reno-Sparks, Nev.; Richmond, Va.; Roanoke, Va.; Rockford, Ill.; Salem, Ore.; Scranton-Wilkes-Barre, Pa.; Spartanburg, S.C.; State College, Pa.; Tallahassee, Fla.; Terre Haute, Ind.; Tucson, Ariz.; Washington, D.C.; Wichita Falls, Texas; Winchester, Va.; Winston-Salem, N.C.; Worcester, Mass.; and York, Pa.

Personally, Im in one of the cities, Richmond, VA, and I ran a speedtest and its still the same as when i first got the sensation:eek:, sooooo...... idk. If youre in one of the cities that got 4g speeds increased run a speedtest and post your results, just for the hell of it:D

Richmond, Va

speedtest.net app

ping 78ms

down 3.48 mbps

up 1.34 mbps
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
I'm in one of the cities and so far it's a touch slower. ;) I get an ok signal here at work though so I'm going to test more around town. I usually average 6-7 Mbps with max 10 Mbps seen. That's pretty good so I don't really expect a huge change.
[HTC Sensation] trees812:
I thought you need a 42 Mbps capable phone to see the new speeds. I think currently only T-Mobile's Rocket 3.0 USB stick can go there.
[HTC Sensation] tech_p:
but the sensation still supposed to be able to get 14 mbps down, so i would think it would still be faster than what i was seeing b4, just a thought
[HTC Sensation] secano:
I personally think the speed increase is BS.
[HTC Sensation] NYCguy2020:
Well,i never seen anything above 3Mbps on my Sensation and i'm in NYC (Queens) ,so as they say talk is cheap :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Doesn't really affect us I think. Our devices are only capable of 14.4 Mbps down.
[HTC Sensation] jayvo:
My city will never get 4G :(
[HTC Sensation] greengoldmello:
Speed increase is total bs. Still haven't hit 10mbps on my sensation. Houston tx
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
You gotta keep in mind those are theoretical speeds. LTE is supposed to be capable of reaching 100 Mbps down, but most people average around 15-20 Mbps down.
[HTC Sensation] n1ghtl1fe:
They advertise best possible connection. Like home internet, Comcast promises me 20's but im around 15's. I bet if you had a capable device and were standing on top of a wireless tower you would be able to get the bandwith their promising.

Its wireless, signal depends on distance, buildings, planes, birds...how fat your hands are.. Im close to rockford, IL and I didnt notice anything but no service for about 2 hrs last night. Speed is still same as before 8mbs down 1.8mbs up.

For a phone Im not complaining. **** I'm lucky to have service in my town this is the city I live in http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110627/news/706279805/

T-mobile is suing us :D
[HTC Sensation] heygrl:
They already won BTW and the tower is going up now.
[HTC Sensation] gguy1:
Our device will at best only handle 14 Mbps... And that occurs if your the only one using data service which is never the case.... Otherwise expect 8 mbps on average
[HTC Sensation] gazelem37:
I'm in Provo, UT and still seeing a little over a 5Mbps connection. No faster but I will keep testing over the next few days.
[HTC Sensation] nzxtneo:
Guys, unless your area just received 4G, your not going to see any benefit to T-Mobile rolling out HSPA+ 42Mbps. The HTC Sensation is only capable of 14.4Mbps download speed max.

Although, T-Mobile did mistakenly say the Sensation would do 42Mbps...

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/06/t-mo...-suggests-htc-sensation-4g-is-42mbps-capable/
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
LOL, T-Mobile's been making so many mistakes lately.
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
I wish. 8Mbs is the max i've hit. On average my speeds aren't that much faster than they were with my Vibrant (non 4G). Average speeds are in the 2-3Mbs range. Definitely nothing to write home about. ;)
[HTC Sensation] greengoldmello:
I'm already aware of what you all are saying. I complain because I used to be able to hit 6mbps before, and now I never go above 4 in the same area; matter of fact, make that any area...

Edit: the above poster has my exact story..fastest speeds I had was the 6-7 mbps on the vibrant which wasn't even rated at 14.4 mbps, and that was a whole year ago
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
I've hit 9 mbps and I'm in long island, ny and I thought there wasn't any 4g here
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
It's been in LI for awhile.

http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
Good looks I didn't know that
[HTC Sensation] bqd37340:
That's bull****...I'd be ecstatic to be throttled down to edge. I'm lucky to get 8-10kb/s, and the already pretty atrocious handshake time becomes like 15 sec for each page... Im sorry for.the rant but hell-- its an (as usual) uninspired, corporate grab for cash because they're big ******* to scared to innovate and maybe lose a bit to better it for the long haul...
[HTC Sensation] swiftinmotion:
I average 8-11 down and almost 2 up im happy with that i dont see the need for anything more personally..its still a phone at the end of the day, who cares if i have to wait a extra second or two. just my 2cents
[HTC Sensation] vvilliamm:
i cant even check my data usage without calling them ........ =/ doesn't even show it online
[HTC Sensation] twomix9900:
There's an app for that

"My Account" I believe it's called
[HTC Sensation] B1ackbird:
I have only 5-8 download ='(
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
I have coworkers with Sprint 4g and my T-Mobile speeds blow them away. They also claim the Sprint 4g RAPES their battery life. While they do have truly unlimited data... most of us smart and loyal T-Mobile users do too. It's been discussed many times already on this forum, but all you need to do is call retentions and request the Android Preferred data plan for $20. It has a 5 Gb softcap that is not actually capped. I always go over 5 Gb, get the text/account softcap warning but never lose my fast 4g speeds.

Back on topic and the doubling of speeds. So far my speed tests around town are a little slower on average. :mad: My 6-7 Mbps is now around 4-5 Mbps. I'll test more as it's been less than 24 hours. Could be a fluke. I was hoping to maybe see higher average speeds though.
[HTC Sensation] roonius:
I have 3-5 download speed.

What works: maps, skype, phone, radio, pandora, email, browser.

What does not: Maybe something I don't care about.

Streaming video??? I use TV for watching movies.

They can bump speeds up to 1 TB/s - I don't give a darn.

Most people are screaming about slow speeds even they don't consume 1/3 of what they have.

Piece...
[HTC Sensation] n1ghtl1fe:
really? you in the area?

as for the complaining with tmobiles 4G, i just came off of sprints unlimited plan with my Evo 4G and i can honestly say living around chicago and being all around the city very often sprints 4G is more of a gimmick. Its fast (around tmobile speeds) but the coverage was very spotty. I never got it in my home when i was told i was in a 4G strong area. Leaving it on while traveling your constantly disconnected.

And it makes the battery its *****. You have 4G on its like leaving wifi, bt, and GPS on full time. When i got my sensation a few days back I was asking the tmobile rep how i turn off 4G to save power hes like its not like sprint dont worry about it and your battery life will be better.

Been three days ive been all around chicago and suburbs of it with tmobile. Havent been without 4G yet and call services even seems more reliable.

just to my 2 cents. keep in mind i havent had my coffee yet lol
[HTC Sensation] graffixnyc:
Wow.. I have noticed a speed bump in NYC for sure. The highest I would see it during off peak times was about 5.5mbps last night I got almost 7 and just now I got over 6(during this time of day I would normally get about 3 or 4 tops)
[HTC Sensation] nzxtneo:
Haha, good one!
[HTC Sensation] jerrylzy:
Mine is asia sensation which doesn't support hspa+(t－mobile's 4g), and my speed is almost the same as yours but my ping is 110ms
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
They rolled out 42 Mbps in New York a long time ago, though.
[HTC Sensation] Cammiesoul:
I'm in Queens too, and my speed test shows 3 too. Is this what 4g is supposed to be?
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
Seriously dude, chill out. Show the people that are here from other nations that US citizens aren't hateful cavemen who lack an education. Sure, I swear too but there's no need to fill these forums up with those words. It's clearly in the XDA rules to not use profanity because there's people here of all ages. If you can't respect that then I bid you a good day. Mods, prepare Mjolnir aka: the ban-hammer.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
I'm in Queens and my results are a lot better. Just got this.