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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
A video showing how well your phone runs while swap happens to be enabled does not make a conclusive finding. The fact is the science doesn't support your conclusion, and here is why:

Swap = your sd card, used as temporary storage.

main storage = your sd card, used as permanent storage.

Here's the fatal flaw, both are your SD card. Reading a program or database out of main storage is EXACTLY the same speed as reading it out of swap, because both of them are your SD card.

Now if swap were on NAND or something, and your main storage was an SD card you might have some performance improvement.

The reason swap on a hard disk makes a difference is because the seek time on a HDD is so high, keeping commonly used stuff in a known location with low seek time is advantageous.

My $.02
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] BBM-Lee:
SIPdroid with this?

So, I installed Frx07 on an sd card and i'm giving android a shot..

Since this is a test phone/platform that rarely has a SIM, I'm trying to see if I can make it marginally more useful for now until I decide if I want to keep with Android in the future...

With Android on the SD Card in this setup, do you think it would be capable of running SIPDroid and utilizing google voice (a process that works at least for "base" android phones)..

Or would there be too much latency/memory issues going over an SD Card to make this work in practice?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] odzk:
Im not trying to be scientific here or whatever reason, what im just trying to say is that Im happy with my phone now that its working properly as it should be and thats it. I was about to buy a low cost LG optimus one, but I changed my mind since my phone works now as an android device (credits to all the devs who did a lot of hardwork on this). Before when I run facebook and yahoo messenger, I can barely open a web browser, and if I open another app like adobe, the phone hang and crash and it goes back to those little robots running and forming a word xdandroid, or worst it goes back to the winMo. and now it doesnt. Sometimes I can manage to go to running services and I can see that the memory goes to .5 mb and its all red, so it means Its running out of memory. I know its not as fast as the NAND but it works.

well maybe you can try an experiment:

run facebook, yahoo messenger, browser, adobe, messaging, gmail, yahoo mail, calendar, and es file exprorer at the same time. lets check if your phone still work and doesnt hang. ;)

just some notes:

I have a 4gb sd card, linux swap is set to 130 MB (i put an extra 2mb allowance just to be sure), and swapiness is set to 60.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Probably not. I've heard people complain about quality.

Why not try it and see? I tried it, but couldn't figure out how to get calling to work inbound IIRC. Been a while, guess I should try again. I think part of the problem was there was some paid app or service that was required to make it all work together... and I didn't feel like paying for it :p. Let me know if you do go through it and get it to work without paying any additional fees...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] odzk:
sipdroid works great on mine (I used 3g/HSDPA) but using SIP, not sure with google voice though, I used my phone as a work phone and yes it works great.

by the way, sipdroid is a battery killer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
I've installed SD Booster and set the cache to 256 kb.

I believe it has improved the reset situation, but not eliminated them. I'm still getting 2 or 3 resets a day (vs ~10).

I'll keep playing I guess - sure would like to figure out what is causing it. Anyone know of better logs to look at than dropbox (not revealing much)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
sipdroid works fine for me using an account at pbxes.org, like they recommend. When I had it hooked up to google voice (using my old gizmo5 account) there was tremendous echo and delays. Dunno if there are any current SIP to GV solutions that behave better, haven't looked into it in a long time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ispartacus75:
Accessing the Market

Pretty sure this isnt a fault with the install itself but hoping someone can help.

I wiped my SD card and performed a fresh install. Everything has installed and is running ok on my phone.

I have downloaded a couple of apps from the market on the phone. However if I go to the market on my PC and try to install apps from there is says there is no device on the account.

Everything has been set up right, I am signed in correctly on both the phone and PC. Looking in the help files on the PC and it says that I need to download an app on my phone before accessing the market on my PC. Done this, 2 or 3 apps installed over the phone.

Before the card wipe and reinstall I was able to install apps from the market on the PC, but for some reason it will no longer work.

Anyone else come across this before?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ispartacus75:
Sorted the above now. I forgot I had to go through the calendar to verify the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Checkout my Speed Improvments thread. Perhaps that will help? I think I should probably add the cache topic as well. Results seem to vary drastically depending on the SD card. Might want to try different values to see if it makes any more of a difference - AFAIK the lowest setting is 128kb.

As for logs, with these types of resets (within Android) you should not lose any logs at all. Not sure to be honest, but I would think logcat would still roll, although that log does scroll off the buffer pretty quick (as they all do, but logcat seems to be the quickest one to overrun its buffer).

I'm kind of wondering if it is your SD card in general - have you tried a different card? Could be the time it takes to write on your SD is killing everything, and if the system hangs up, killall zygote is sent and boom... back to the boot animation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eruisi:
Amazing development work. Really appreciate it!

One minor question: I installed Talking Tom in this Android and couldn't get Tom hear my voice and play back in a funny way. Other features work fine.

Anyone know why or is there a workaround?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
Thanks for the tips. I will definitely try. I have to find another microsd card somewhere.

But just as a clarification, i'm not getting the killall zygote to the animation screen. I'm getting full on resets into winmo. (I have seen the behavior you're speaking of, but not nearly as often as the full reset into winmo).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
I used to have a soft reboot each and every time I installed or updated an app from Market.

Installed SD Booster, set cache to 256 Kb and up until now everything works perfect! I even dare say the phone is more responsive!

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Everyone has issues with this app. I don't use it, I don't get the point. Is there a use for this app? I might try to troubleshoot it if there is some use case, but I can't see one.

If you want to troubleshoot on your own, perhaps booting Android with a call into voicemail (perhaps on speakerphone) will help. Keep the call going while you boot Android. This was an old trick used back in the day when there was issues where the mic wasn't properly initialized.

I'm sure the new audio routing code will resolve this issue, assuming it ever stabilizes :p.

Now let's be careful here. Resets to WinMo are kernel panics, almost 100% of the time. Resets within Android (back to the boot animation) all stem from the system hanging and becoming unresponsive. Not sure the exact metrics, but if the system is unreachable for a certain period of time, it will force the phone to reset itself.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Luky522:
Hi, Is there someone who can please help me with DroidExplorer, I still can't get it to work (I know, I'm noob in things like that). Thanks a lot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Might want to explain the problems you're having with it.

Is it the USB drivers? Did you use PDA.net as directed? I'm assuming this is Windows? What actually is failing? Where are you getting stuck...? Do any devices show!?!?!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
So I am experiencing kernel panics? That does not sound good. I can't imagine me executing some code path that is unique. I know there are others experiencing the full resets into winmo. Like I said, I didn't have this problem in FRX06 - and i've reinstalled data.img a few times as well as formatted the SD card using HP Tool.

You would think a kernel panic would leave remnants of something in the logs, but I haven't been able to find any. I'll keep digging.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well resets to WinMo, you'll only get logs from Dropbox/ramconsole. You won't get logs any other way...

Kernel panics can happen for many reasons. Even things like a bad SD card could cause it. Obviously kernel panics should never happen, but our kernel is far from perfect :p. In reality, the kernel should be hardened against anything that could cause a panic, it should just generate an error for userland to deal with.

Make sure you're on the newest kernel & rootfs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] prexzone:
Hello guys, my internet stopped working n i realized the 3G sign is gone. i tried turning my phone off n back on but still the same problem. i cant update anything or even receive mms. can anyone help me out?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
So after a full reboot? You said you turned the "phone off n back on" but that to me could just mean putting the device to sleep and waking it back up, all within Android.

You could try flipping airplane mode on/off. If that fails, reboot. If that fails, new data.img I guess? If that fails, pillage and start over. If that fails, throw your phone out the window :D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] teemo:
You will find the panic-logs in

/data/system/dropbox/SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG@xxxx.txt.gz

They will look something like this:

[ 769.691131] SMD: ch 7 CLOSED -> CLOSING
[ 769.691375] SMD: ch 7 CLOSING -> OPENING
[ 769.691436] kernel BUG at arch/arm/mach-msm/smd.c:317!
[ 769.691497] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
[ 769.693450] SMD: ch 7 OPENING -> OPENED
[ 769.693511] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception
[ 769.693542] Rebooting in 7 seconds..<6>msm_proc_comm_reset: Soft reset done.

I believe the smd(7) is a well known error, but don't know if dev's are looking into it yet. Try to apply some of the tweaks that came up in this forum the last few days, they seem to help on both speed and stability.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] smartidoos:
Hello ,first of all thx for this great android for mijn Tp2 ,it works fine ,only I got one annoying problem ,Is it possible to turn of the led notification ,it always burn and i think it is also draining my battery.

Thx

Smartidoos,netherlands t-mobile rhodium tp2 energierom/froyo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] latinohot:
try the a newer kernel, that did the trick on my tilt2

i think i'm using the one dated 8/19, but don't quote me:rolleyes:

I just checked and yes I'm using 20110819_183957
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
It's not draining your battery, it's indicating sleep state.

As was mentioned previously, update to the newest kernel.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] smartidoos:
Thx ,i wil try
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] smartidoos:
I have updated to the newest kernel,(htc-msm-linux @ 20110819_183957) I wonder what Happend ,but the led notification

is stil burning ,but is it possible to turn this off.

Thx

Smartidoos
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
Thanks for the pointer. Believe it or not, no panics appear in my logs. I am definitely seeing full resets into winmo, but the logs don't show anything about a kernel panic, or anything else to show a reset.

Does anyone know the boot sequence, or a string I can search for to indicate the booting of xandroid in the SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG? That way I can find the last statement before the boot sequence and see if it shines some light on what is causing the reset?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Probably would be best to just post your logs so others can review them.

My .02.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] detule:
If you are indeed on the latest kernel you should be seeing a solid LED under one (or both) of the following scenarios:

1. Your phone is plugged in.

2. You have not mounted the updated liblights library and you have a pending notification in your taskbar (SMS, or e-mail).

Anything else is borderline impossible at this point. Verify a few times that indeed you are booting the latest kernel. If this is truly the case and your behavior falls outside the two cases above, then post a dmesg (or download the app GetLogs that is on this form and post complete logs.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dsramesh:
I am using the latest kernel (8/19/11) and see Green light when it is sleeping with or without GPS on (Location Setting).

Does this mean that we can keep GPS location Enabled and phone still goes to deep sleep?

..Ramesh
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] detule:
No, GPS enabled most certainly prevents your phone from sleeping. Information about how the LED bahvior with the latest kernel differs from the norm can be found in this post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dsramesh:
Thanks.. somehow missed this post!

- I will make necessary changes to enable proper display of lights.

..Ramesh
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] solnt:
hi all,

My wifi doesn't work with newest kernel. It did word with previous kernel.

When turn it on in setting menu it show error.

Is there knowing-issue relative to this problem?

Thanks

P/s:

08-24 14:37:36.650 I/ActivityManager( 4244): Displayed activity com.android.phone/.Settings: 940 ms (total 940 ms)
08-24 14:37:38.450 W/InputManagerService( 4244): Starting input on non-focused client com.android.internal.view.IInputMethodClient$Stub$Proxy@450425a0 (uid=1001 pid=4321)
08-24 14:37:39.950 D/dalvikvm( 4587): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 515 objects / 23064 bytes in 110ms
08-24 14:37:41.470 E/WifiService( 4244): Failed to load Wi-Fi driver.
08-24 14:37:41.540 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:41.710 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:43.590 E/WifiService( 4244): Failed to load Wi-Fi driver.
08-24 14:37:43.730 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:43.850 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:44.730 E/WifiService( 4244): Failed to load Wi-Fi driver.
08-24 14:37:44.870 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:45.030 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:45.620 E/WifiService( 4244): Failed to load Wi-Fi driver.
08-24 14:37:45.800 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:45.940 D/Beautiful Widgets( 4622): WIFI_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION
08-24 14:37:47.770 W/ResourceType( 4244): Skipping entry 0x7f040006 in package table 0 because it is not complex!
08-24 14:37:47.780 W/ResourceType( 4244): Skipping entry 0x7f040005 in package table 0 because it is not complex!
08-24 14:37:49.110 D/dalvikvm( 4325): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 4917 objects / 206560 bytes in 140ms
08-24 14:37:49.360 D/dalvikvm( 4325): GC_EXTERNAL_ALLOC freed 97 objects / 4296 bytes in 80ms
08-24 14:37:51.830 I/ActivityManager( 4244): Starting activity: Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.LAUNCHER] flg=0x10200000 cmp=com.GetLogs/.GetLogsActivity }
08-24 14:37:51.960 I/ActivityManager( 4244): Start proc com.GetLogs for activity com.GetLogs/.GetLogsActivity: pid=4688 uid=10073 gids={3003, 1007}
08-24 14:37:52.000 D/Genie ( 4598): Can not get the location from network

I hope this will narrow down the info you need.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
I'm in LOVE WITH FRX07! THANKS ALL!!!!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mgross029:
solnt,

I had a similar problem but found that deleting my data.ext4 (data.img for non-Fox kernel) and let it be recreated allowed me to enable wifi.

I just used Titanium Backup to backup all of my apps and data then restroed to after new data file was created.

Hope that helps...

Rhod500

FRX07

1348 Fox Test Kernel

8/16 rootfs
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jherbold:
Just wanted to share the result of my "speed" experiments on my ATT tilt2. I am running ADW launcher and the latest updates from http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page.

These results may be unique to my configuration. I am NOT suggesting this will be optimum for you.

First, swapper2 did not yield noticeable improvements with the apps I use. Your mileage may vary.

Second I wanted to see just how fast my processor could run. I bumped the overclock value up in 20mhz increments until Haret failed to load and initiate the operating system. That was at 810000 on my processor. So I set the overclock at 790000 and it seems to be working well at that speed. I probably am burning battery faster.

Last was to find the "optimum" cache value for my class 6, 8gb sd card. I used "SD Card Speed Test" to measure write/read transfer rates and "SD-Booster" to set the cache value. I found 3072kb yielded the highest read rates. Write rate was only nominally affected by the cache size.

"SD card Speed Test" would not load from the market. Look around, you'll find the apk eventually. You can use "SD Tools" instead but it is kind of clunky.

At clock 790000 and cache 3072 my phone is stable and the useability has been noticeably improved.

Let me state again - this is working for me. It may not be appropriate for your configuration.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
Reset Logs

I have upgraded to the latest kernel and rootfs. I just had my first reset with the new stuff, and am uploading the latest SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG files. I hope someone can help me shed some light into why my phone keeps resetting into winmo?

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
From my extremely ignorant eyes, it looks like wifi is blowing things up.

Do you use wifi? Have you tried not using it...?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nyd:
3G problem solved

First of all, I am new to Android. This was the first time I have actually used it.

After very many hours I found the solution for my 3G problem. Maybe it is the same problem for others too. The 3G Data connection not working problem can be solved if you add the correct APN. In Romania, for orange the apn is 'net' or 'internet' and anything else blank. For those who used to have 3g, maybe your carrier changed APN settings and you must update them. Check with your carrier.

FOR RHOD100 the wifi is working after adding the mac in wifi-nvram.txt (HINT: you can find terminal emulator on android market)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] thereverend999:
I'm on FRX07 on a Sprint TP2, and I can't get Facebook to sync my contacts... is this a known issue? (There is nothing below "other settings" in the facebook app, and trying to add it from "Accounts" doesn't work either.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nickleby:
Must be a problem of FRX07 (FRX06, etc). I remember months ago I tried one of the garbage ROMs from Tiad8 and had the option to sync contacts from Facebook.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] frostyguy:
Need help

Probably already been posted but every time I get a call or text my signal drops and I need to restart, I also get no wifi and when I play words with friends, it freezes a lot. I'm more concerned about the dropped signal but any help would be awesome. Already checked the FAQ page and browsed through the thread with no luck. I am on FRX07 with the latest roots file, kernal an d zimage. Thanks.

Oh yeah, on Sprint network with RHOD400 not sure about my radio version though, never had to change it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nyd:
About wifi maybe it is the "xdandroid can't see your mac address problem" mentioned in FAQ. Check the penultimate question (2.3) in FAQ or if you want to connect to an wep-wifi check the last question. (HINT: get your mac address from WinMo Connection Manager->click on the left side of Wi-fi bar->advanced and copy your mac address)

For the rest of the problems, maybe an update would help check FAQ question 1.4 to see how can you do an incremental update.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] prexzone:
so u basically saying my problem cant be solved....tanks for the advice. i was gonna throw the phone out the window anyway...its given me too much trouble
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please update your radio firmware. See this post.

Incremental Updates
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] odzk:
got the same problem, I also want to sync my contacts so I dont have to put their profile pictures manually one by one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] wehweh:
Can anybody tell me how to disable data on boot? It won't show up in the *#*#4636#*#* menu...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks... Uncheck 'Data Enabled'.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
and THEN reboot, so upon next boot data will be disabled :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] yoyo81:
I thought you might have been on to something. Kept wifi off all day, but just had my first reset of the day. Can't be sure, but perhaps turning off wifi reduces but doesn't eliminate the resets....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nickleby:
I think that "bug" is not reported yet. I beleive you can report that issue here: http://bugs.xdandroid.com/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Contacts sync fine (with pictures) with my GMail contacts...?

Seems like a "bug" with Facebook...

Dunno. I haven't attempted FB sync, sorry. I haven't really seen logs or any decent descriptions of 'what' is exactly going wrong - so if anyone does file a bug (and if you feel it genuinely is a bug with XDAndroid I encourage you to) please be very verbose. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nickleby:
Android is supposed to have the option to sync contacts with Facebook, but there's not an option available in FRX07. XDAndroid must be the problem because as I said in an earlier message, in one of the ROMs from Tiad8 the option to sync with Facebook was available...I have understood that all Android phones also have that option. The only one who does not have the ability to sync contacts with Facebook is the Nexus One. As thereverend999 said, "There is nothing below "other settings" in the facebook app, and trying to add it from "Accounts" doesn't work either" when it should be. So it's simply a problem or a missing component of FRX07.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ah... you said the magic word - Nexus One.

That is basically the same build we're running, what comes on that - AOSP. Does AOSP support FB sync..? If no, then the bug is invalid.

Perhaps there's a third party way to do it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nickleby:
Google deleted the option to sync Facebook contacts in the Nexus One and Nexus S from Gingerbread, FroYo still can sync with Facebook AFAIK.

Actually being able or not to sync contacts with Facebook is not important to me, I use WinMo to sync with Facebook. But for those users who need or require this feature I suggested to report this problem as for what I said earlier, is supposed to be a feature of Android itself. I don't know if AOSP supports this function. You can use a third party application, but I guess there's always suspicion about the use of these applications. It's better to have that option natively.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] frostyguy:
Thanks nyd and arrrrrghhhhh, will try the radio update and already updated the rest, hope it turns out well