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[Eee Pad Transformer General] nicknowsky:
Yeah we are in some desperate need of some real ROMs! The Dev'n has slowed down a lot

Hopefully Doc you can work some real magic. You're right Ive noticed 3.1 seems slow. I know I know nobody wants to hear it, but lately my iPad 2 is looking better and better. I dunno nobod has nailed it yet, but I hear the new Toshiba Tablet might just be the one. Honeycomb needs some real help
[Eee Pad Transformer General] amerikian:
better than 3.1?

In your opinion is this ROM running smoother than the custom 3.1 ROMs out there?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nickwarn:
Is it the Virtuous galaxy rom in Acer Iconia Xda thread you mean? And is that fully functional, with auto rotation and so on working?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Bfitz26:
goddammit i figured something fishy went on, hopefull there is a solution and gets a nice little shove refering to the virtuous rom info site. :(
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mikey1602:
The Virtuous Unity ROM was updated yesterday, (2/08) in the DHD forums. They're back.

MDJ is working on a Sensation Rom according to twitter.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Cordy:
If you guys take a look at his Virtuous Galaxy thread in the A500 forums one of his last posts says he was waiting on the final release before updating the rom to see if it fixes some of the issues he was having. He also posted in this thread that he had some huge bugs to take care of before our release. There are correlations between the two. If it's any consolidation guys today they are releasing the Touchwiz update in NYC and it'll publicly rollout on the 5th so I'm sure once mdeejay gets his hands on it both tablets will see releases.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mothy:
According to the Samsung Touchwiz release event it only works with 3.1 at the moment.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mikey1602:
I'd happily go back to 3.1 for it. What's been shown off today looks awesome. 3.2 on the Transformer was disappointing.

I think I've used the zoom feature once to see how it worked.

I hope we get it one way or another.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] husher:
I second this feeling and until this rom comes out on the tf I'm stuck between getting a tf or a 10.1
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
Well 3.2 didn't promise the world. Just like 2.3.5 didn't do much for my phone. I'm still on 3.1 anyway. I'm waiting for a final Prime rom before taking the plunge.

Maybe it'd be easier to just port the touchwiz elements to one our fully working roms? I'd just like the widget-apps and the notification toggles.

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] tonkaberlin:
yeah i would totally settle for just the widget-apps and notification toggles. however that will require the full touchwiz framework so you'll pretty much have to port it regardless
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daniel9522:
which rotation widget is it
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Bfitz26:
What about building a tablet based launcher with touch wuz intergration is that posdible
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Bassdj427:
Does anyone have a mirror for the ROM version which makes Wi-Fi work?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Drybonz:
Big +1 on this. I'm on 3.1 now, and I would happily stay on it for the TouchWiz rom.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jjsoviet:
Users over at the Tab 10.1 forums say that stock browser typing lag has been largely fixed, and is now usable for forums such as XDA. Makes me want to wait for this port than ever.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aibo:
Download the acer iconia version and an asus kernel (I recommend clemsyn v14). Flash them all, it will work.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nex7er:
Wat... seriously?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daniel9522:
what will work
[Eee Pad Transformer General] adiliyo:
the rom from the acer will work with our tablet with the right kernel (v14 - 16 work more or less) but it isn't 100%, there are things broken that still need fixing, but if you want to get a taste of what the touchwiz UX brings in honeycomb, it's something to play with for a little while.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daniel9522:
is the rotation working
[Eee Pad Transformer General] adiliyo:
not in the launcher, but apps that need to rotate seem to work.

Its the same issues that have been mentioned already in this thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] legents:
I see M-deejay has dropped the transformer from his signature...we should probably not expect the port from him

DocRambone also swapped his TF101 for a Galaxy Tap.. the sun seems to be going down on us.:eek::eek::eek:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mikey1602:
I noticed that too. I am dissapoint :(
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kalel90:
I fully expected this. I knew as soon as the galaxy tab was released wed get screwed.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Shawn_230:
Congratulations Nostradamus!

To be honest I too am thinking of getting the Galaxy tab 10.1.... I have no issues with my Transformer, but I just find it too heavy and big to use in any position other than sitting up.

We should all be happy though, at least we have more or less vanilla Honeycomb on our Transformers... if it had a skin like TouchWiz or Sense we'd probably all be moaning for a vanilla ROM. The leaked pictures from the HTC Puccini also show a pretty heavily skinned OS... I'm guessing the trend from here is to skin Honeycomb to differentiate it like they do with phones.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nex7er:
I guess XDA's quality-bar has been lowered...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mikey1602:
So true. As soon as AOSP roms hit for my DHD i got shot of Sense. I do feel lucky that Asus didn't take a half baked approach on customizing honeycomb. Best they did next to nothing than totally ruin the experience.

Maybe in a few months when we have a few more tablets on the go we might see some ports.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nex7er:
I guess it's time to sell my transformer for a Galaxy Tab if that's where the devcommunity is going. :<
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Shawn_230:
Ha, thing is with the newer generation of phones AOSP seems like almost a waste if you ask me.

I love everything about vanilla Gingerbread, it was the only ROM on my HD2... but the Galaxy SII just has so much power and capability that it somehow seems strange and cruel 'limiting' it to vanilla.

/offtopic

Uh, is there a mass exodus of devs from the Transformer section?

No, there isn't. Just because an interface from one device hasn't been (fully) ported to the Transformer does not mean the Transformer has poor or dwindling dev support.

Like somebody mentioned before, we'll hopefully see the widgets and stuff pop-up by themselves if nothing else. I myself don't like TouchWiz's playschool color scheme so I'd be fine with just the bits and pieces personally.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mothy:
the funny thing is over in the galaxy forums they want stock honeycomb back
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kalel90:
That's not the point. The point is we have all of 3 devs who are actively working on 3 different roms and that's pretty much it besides voodoo. By comparison the galaxy tab has many many more devs who are actively working on their roms and any devs who potentially would have gotten a transformer chose the galaxy tab instead or were given one by Samsung.

Also i too don't care for the touchwhiz colors etc. but Samsung has done some pretty amazing functional things with honeycomb. The widgets are not the only thing they've modified, They also modified the browser and improved it a lot. I would have liked all of this on the transformer.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kalel90:
Most roms over there give the option for either or. I fully believe people should have a choice between the two. Some people don't like touchwhiz at all and want stock even if there are nice improvements, Those people should be able to choose stock if they want it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rmriggin:
I flashed the latest iconia ux rom and then flashed the netarchy kernel and it booted fine but didn't get to check on what did or didn't work because I kept getting fc messages and the text was backwards.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Shawn_230:
Then I stand corrected. I generally like rooted stock for the tablet so I don't keep up with the more customized ROMs for the Transformer.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rothnic:
I tried their latest one and I can't get it to boot with any transformer 3.1 kernel for some reason. With the 3.2 kernel the screen goes crazy every few seconds, and I get the fc messages with backwards text.

I'm going to continue to work on getting it working. I'd just hate to use one of the older versions.

Edit: Looks like there is some mismatch between the video drivers and the kernel with 1.0.5.

1.0.5 with 3.1 kernels gives me a extremely artifacted screen after kernel splash screen

1.0.5 with 3.2 kernel boots, but screen gets all artifacted every few seconds

1.0.2 with clemson v16 works but has issues as mentioned earlier

I wonder if we will have to wait for a 3.2 version of the rom before we can use the 3.2 kernel
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nicknowsky:
BUMP**

COme on after seeing the new Touchwiz UX update in action, our tablet is garbage compared to the Galaxy Tab. The Acer tablet even looks better than the TF, we need to get some DEVs rolling in this
[Eee Pad Transformer General] david279:
Anybody have the touchwiz ux wallpapers?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stuff:
I completely disagree. I love the stock Honeycomb layout. I don't see much more added functionality, and from what I've seen in the past (On Samsung devices) they have a terrible coding team, and their software is always laggy at best. It usually ruins the entire android experience.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rothnic:
So logcat is reporting rotation correctly, however the home screen never rotates for me. This is strange because my assumption would have been the accelerometer wasn't working correctly, but it definitely is.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Segnaro:
Yes, you can see it working in apps like the Market where you turn the screen upsidedown.

So might be something with the framework? :cool:

Another interesting tibbit is that Virtuous Galaxy 1.0.2 uses a kernel based on 3.1 Transformer source.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rothnic:
So, yeah it must be in framework or something. It is just strange because some apps rotate, and some don't. And it isn't specific to samsung or google apps. Market rotates, but gmail does not.

I have fixed issues like this before when porting stuff to the vs gtablet, but in this case I'm not as sure about what the core issue is since there are inconsistencies.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] b3ltazar:
Rothnic glad to see you here you were a savior in the gtab world hope you can do the same on the tf. Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Segnaro:
Samsung does something with graphics and its bootloaders on its phones, so they might be doing the same on the 10.1

m-deejay probably modified his kernel so it wouldn't have that problem on Iconia.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Shawn_230:
Bahaha, garbage? You must have a fickle personality... one day you're all in love with your Transformer (I assume, you did buy it and keep it) and then one day you see a video of the TouchWiz UX and you suddenly think your tablet is garbage? Hah, you sound like me when I was 16.

And the Acer Iconia will never look better than the TF, with the ugly thick body and the stupid TFT display which looks like butt compared to the Transformer's IPS panel.

Just go buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 if you want that interface so badly, don't sully the Transformer by calling it garbage because a dev failed to port a custom UI from another device sold by another manufacturer for $100 more money.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nex7er:
I'll add in $50 USD if anyone finds a dev willing to work on this asap.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] adiliyo:
wow, that potentially brings this up to almost $200 to port something that's like 70% of the way done (although the remaining 30% might be the toughest, the math still makes it look good! ;) )

if i knew how to do any of what was necessary i would have def started trying by now. :(
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
I'll add you to the list once it's confirmed. Anything helps grab attention. The key to being successful is to be open with our devices. If our TF can run everyone else's software then they have no advantages. Plus its more about options. Once we figure out a good base, then keeping it updated shouldn't be as hard.

The more options we have, the more attractive the TF becomes, which brings people, which brings devs. It's a vicious cycle.

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] nex7er:
What needs to be confirmed? My money or a dev? If mine, tell me how to confirm. :-)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rothnic:
I didn't have much luck working on it yesterday except that I do think we can get wifi working on any of the versions/kernel combinations.

Today I'm going to try starting from a clean galaxy tab ROM with TW.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
Once the money is sent to my PayPal I will confirm it and update the front post with your name.

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] legents:
Guys, Fguy has just produced the second Touchwhiz rom for the iconia ...I PMed him inviting him to this thread so some help, below is his reply hope some can make sense of it:

"You have selected an incorrect way - substitution of files *.so transfer of ROM Samsung quitted since July, 1st not to solve.

It is necessary to transfer a dalvik-code of applications and framework from Samsung ROM on your device, but it is very big and uneasy work.

Excuse for my English - is an online translator

Good luck "
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rothnic:
I wish I could understand what he is saying. Sounds like he is saying that transferring the TF libraries into the samsung stock ROM is not the way to go, but moving the touchwiz related binaries and applications into the TF ROM is the way to go.

Trying the later was one thing on my list, but it seems like it definitely would require the most work. However, it could possibly give you at least some partial dock functionality.

Anyone else translate that differently?

EDIT: Well it looks like porting the touchwiz to a stock ROM is what he did by looking at his thread. However I do see the following issue noted, which is strange to see considering the virtuous ROM does not have the accel issue.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Kov695:
i ll put $20 in it also!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] msticninja:
That's how I understood the translation, and I agree with him. In my small experience with rom dev on the Archos Gen8s, there's more work in porting the UI than in porting the whole ROM, at least in first impressions. But then once you start trying to work through all the bugs that aren't related to the UI, but the ROM in general, you realize it would've been easier to just port the UI.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rmriggin:
The problems I noticed with using the port were driver related. Unfortunately I have no programming expirience but I have been a willing guinea pig for tests. Using the latest UX build for the Iconia and flashing the netarchy kernel for our TF101 would boot but I would get constant FC messages and all of the text would be mirrored (backwards). Not sure what causes that but I would think it would be related to drivers. Pretty cool progress so far. Really enjoying this tablet regardless and waiting to get a kb dock for even more versatility. Wishing that a TPU case would come out soon though. My main attractions to the Galaxy 10.1 so far are the availability of cases and that the rear camera has a flash. Sure it is slim and all but that case never been too much of a deciding factor in my purchases.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] iCracked:
We are starting up a new Touchwiz port, by me and a few others. Looking for all the help we can get, we are gonna port the UI into the TF's kernel and OS. Please PM me if your interested.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1212814
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nickwarn:
Just a post to keep this at first page.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
While touchwiz is a good starting point, being able to run galaxy roms would piss off the galaxy owners (fun) but really just give us options in the future. Imagine getting updates from Asus and Samsung!

If we could nail down what is required to get it running, we could overlay that over any (every?) new Samsung rom.

Baby steps though I suppose. Years ago, when I first started porting sense to the samsung blackjack, I was just surprised it worked. Then when I started building roms I got dirtier with it. Of course touchwiz and whole roms are different. Just seems so close to abandon porting the rom.

I just like options. Perhaps starting from a good TF base and adding things in one at a time is a smart move. Then you can fix problems as they arise vs scrambling to figure out how they got in there in the first place.

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] MISFITZ:
CONFUSED!....confused...and more confused...its confused.com ...somebody help me!...

Explain what this is and how this is an improvement over what ROMS we current;y have out there? How is this better? and what is it suppose to do?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daweeze02:
The rom itself is nice and seems snappy. But at them moment with the annoying battery message every 30 seconds or so its not very useable. I mean you can use it but you quickly get annoyed when the message pops up when you are trying to do something or type an email etc.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
Any dev looking into this? I agree the battery popup message makes it unusable.

Glad to know that you can get wifi working by flashing Clemsyn's Kernel.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Verbium:
Just having a play with this and have to agree this is definitely a much better launcher for tablets. Will be interested to see if the bugs can be ironed out!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nickwarn:
Anyone tryed the Acer iconia version of this Galaxy/Touchwiz build? Someone said it could be used for Transformer, and if so does all things that work for Iconia work for Transformer? It would be nice if because Iconia build seems to have most things in order.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jwilliamf:
My guess is, that it is the Acer iconia version the one that they are using with the clemsy kernal for the TF
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daweeze02:
Yes this is 100% correct, flash the acer build with the clemsyn kernel and you are good to go with some bugs of course
[Eee Pad Transformer General] nickwarn:
does that includ the battery heat message issue? And is it the build found in Iconia forum( Virtuous Galaxy)?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rodsky11:
Would really like to see this come to fruition but there appears to be little interest from devs on the subject. Oh well...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] haensgn:
Its like the other devs are trying to force my hand to try to dev this LOL!!!

THEY obviously don't understand or get that I will just be pm'ing, using, and putting them through more work if they just did it themselves. :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jerdog:
Will be moving this to General as there is no development actually going on - and this is just a commentary/info thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] poltak11:
Interesting how the Acer Galaxy ROM + TF kernel works fine on a Transformer... I'm assuming this is because the Honeycomb systems on each of the Honeycomb tabs are relatively similar, minus a different kernel due to needing different interfaces for different hardware etc. But even then, the kernel's would still be fairly similar apart from the hardware modules.

Am I right, in assuming this?

If so, we could probably get other Honeycomb ROMs working with our own kernels, right?

And if that works, why isn't there a major collaboration with Honeycomb devs, working together to put out ROMs for all the devices (each with their respective kernel)?

Am I the only one thinking this, or is there a major flaw in my thinking? (it's 3am here afterall...)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] haensgn:
Knew this was going to happen, even if there was Dev'ing going on. As it has happened to the last two times it has been posted. I hope some devs are ready for my bothering them... *idle threat
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jerdog:
There is no development on the forum happening with this - only discussions of development happening elsewhere. When a thread has development/fixes actively going on within the thread and those involved - especially when the OP is the one doing the development/fixing - then those threads belong in development.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jerdog:
The base hardware is similar, being a SoC from nVidia (Tegra2). But each device has their only flavor of hardware (some is the same or similar).

Basically what happens here is the core framework is copied over and merged with the core, necessary Asus-specific framework needed to make things work - and you get a ported interface/ROM. The kernel has to be device-specific because it's related to the specific hardware and modules needed for that device.

Your idea of more collaboration is a good one - and we see that with other devices (MT4G, Evo, Incredible, etc.) where the core is virtually identical - and so a ROM can be ported and cross-device.... just like you see with CM7. But it's not easy - and the more devices you get the more variables enter in, etc. It's a big endeavor.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
The more I see videos of this rom the more I want it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLP3RXkmUQ

In regards to the move, I agree. I posted it in the Dev Section with hopes it would take off but doesn't seem to.

I'm kinda sad actually because I was under the assumption that the Asus TF was under heavy development. After I trade my iPad2 for it, I'm finding that it is kind of stale. What gives?

We have a 98% working rom and no devs even showing interest in it? I would love to take credit for finishing this up if I had the knowledge.

Really if someone got rid of the battery nag, it could become a daily driver.

Does the TF charge using the new kernel?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Drybonz:
Looks like someone has accepted the challenge. It's getting exciting! :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jwilliamf:
I agree, having that touchwiz in the transformer would be a killer tab. It is like having the best of many world. (keyboard, touchwiz, Ubuntu, wow!!)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jwilliamf:
Sir,

you pull this off and many beers will be going your way!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daweeze02:
Yea that is one of the bugs I was referring to
[Eee Pad Transformer General] daweeze02:
I have this flashed still on my tablet running the version 16 of clemsyn's kernel. I'd be more than welcome to work on this with someone but would need some help since I have never built a rom. I have rooted around 20 different devices but that came with instructions of OP's from XDA. Still I'm no noob lol

Point me in the right direction and the tools I need, I love learning new geeky things, best way to contact me is on gchat...gbentz@gmail.com
[Eee Pad Transformer General] player911:
We should start taking donations to spark some interest.

List of Donators to make this happen

Player911 - $20

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] ToyTank:
Your thread title should make what you want more clear. Maybe put request or bounty in the title. When I saw it I thought you were a DEV pushing a donate version of a rom.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Dormantlemon:
im getting a transformer on july 26th. Ill get to work on this then. I wont even really use it, but the transformer does have a lack of custom roms, and id really like to open the floor to a larger dev community for the transformer. it looks like a very promising device.