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[Flipside General] thepickler:
Hi,

I bought my Flipside at the beginning of June and it's been fine up until yesterday. When I slide the keyboard out the screen spazzes out and sometimes works afterward but usually fades to black, causing me to have to take the battery out and turn the phone back on. I can still use the on-screen keyboard but the screen is too small for that to work very well. If the screen starts spazzing out (everything moving around and flashing and jumping) and I try to turn the screen off and back on once it's off it doesn't come back on. Also almost all the time the first time I try to turn the phone back on it hangs on the "M" screen and i have to take the battery out and try to turn it on again. I tried a hard reset but that didn't help anything. I'm worried since this phone is barely a month old that it might be a hardware issue but I don't think I got insurance on the phone and can't afford a new one right now so..any ideas?

Thanks

EDIT: Also, there is no water damage and I've only dropped the phone a couple times, and there's a case on the phone
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
I recently exchanged a new 3vo after having some dust issues under the screen. This new one is pretty good with keeping dust out but there is a problem with draining the battery even when it's a sleep.

It's been off the charger for about 3 hours after hitting 100% and it's down to 92% after sending a few texts and sleeping throughout most of the 3 hours.

I'm getting worried there's something draining the battery, or if the unit itself is having issues going into sleep mode.
[HTC EVO 3D] Semantics:
Did you check your uptime/awake time? I usually get 18+ hours of light to moderate use of my phone, I mean, there isnt much to do with the phone because I cant flash stuff yet. I have had two instances, which were odd. I put the phone on nightstand at 100% and after 6 hours my phone completely drained and shut down. Had this happen twice. Cant reproduce it, but I'm sure it'll happen again.
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Yeah I checked my awake time and then let it sleep for about a minute. It took about 20-30 seconds to fully stop the awake time after the minute passed. There was an instance where it seemed to not sleep at all.

I don't know if it's supposed to do that.
[HTC EVO 3D] austineasleyinfo:
From Htc's facebook:

**UPDATE 7/10**

We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.

We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.

HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
[HTC EVO 3D] JoshuaAlba:
Early September? Pff......
[HTC EVO 3D] Psych0t1c20:
Well that's good news. But I wonder if we'll have our phones unlocked before the update is released.
[HTC EVO 3D] Razgriz:
And there it is...
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
Over two months? Feels like i'm back with Samsung.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
Really you think that is to long?

Honestly give me a break. This type of update is a huge deal and undertaking. I mean, sure they might be able to push it sooner....and brick half of the devices.

How happy would people be then?
[HTC EVO 3D] austineasleyinfo:
That's what I wonder. They have at least a month and a half. I think they can do it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Razgriz:
Wonder how many new threads will be made over this. I'm saying 15 by this time tomorrow.
[HTC EVO 3D] JoshuaAlba:
Key word: half
[HTC EVO 3D] phyba:
Here's hoping the galaxy 2 is announced before my 30 days are up. Who's to say HTC is just saying this so we can't take the phone back within the 30 day window?? Oh well. Sounds like bs.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
HTC is awesome. This is fantastic news! HTC FTMFW!

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
Your right exactly half.

Do you know? I sure don't....could brick all of them....or just 20 percent.

A company can't risk that. Let's not be ridiculous.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Not trusting it...oh well.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Seriously?

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
If its bs....the public backlash would be unthinkable. Therefore it is not bs...or.they would of already made the.statement.

Geez....people think before you post.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
HTC won't make an announcement like that and go back on their word.

Think for one sec.
[HTC EVO 3D] themuffinman:
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up leaking the damn thing just so our mods can work on it for them.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
September? Gaaaahhhhh
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Um no, risk of bricking devices b/c of the update is slim and none if they wanted to go about it the easiest and fastest way possible. They toss in the ENG-hboot on a signed firmware zip and all is okay. They are chosing to make this more difficult though hence the longer timeframe.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Yay! Now all of you who said "im returning within 30 days if its not unlocked". Can now take your phones in tomorrow and shut the phuck up :)

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
leaks have been slim ever since 911sniper's blog went down. So i say the chance of a leak is very slim here, less sniper re-emerges and starts putting up fantastic leaks again for all the great devs to dive into.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
Why would they do that? Doesn't make sense....it would cost more money to go the long way around...so the only reason is if there way is safer.
[HTC EVO 3D] xweaponx:
I feel this is an acceptable timeline considering the technology of our device and the design, testing, implementation, Q.A. packaging and qualifying of a OTA update for worldwide release & numerous devices.

DISCLAIMER: I am not underestimating the talent and fortitude of the development community in providing a unlocked bootloader. However we are working with different flash architecture, encryption protocol, image, etc and I do not think we have yet developed the knowledge & resources to deliver a compliant, reliable and completely safe bootloader by September.

Of course, I could be very wrong...
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Meh I'll be doing Fall classes (means no time for development) in September. Its good to hear but this doesn't work well in my favor.
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Seriously? Did Motorola make the E3D? I just switched from an Atrix, which was finally unlocked recently, and now it will another 2 months minimum before I get to use my first custom ROM, ever... atrix was my first android. This blows!
[HTC EVO 3D] coolchris305:
+1 on this...i rather just wait and have them do proper testing and such...im not returning this phone becuase i think its still great without root! But i still cant wait to flash some roms on this beast!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Well HTC didn't decide there eta on overstews schedule :)

Jk bro

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Go get the photon next month :)

And wait another 6 months for that to be cracked open....

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] Irishman42:
Just curious as to why everyone including the op are assuming Sept. It states it will start in August, who says it won't be. At least they gave us an update.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Depends on if they are putting in a watermarking option where when you unlock the bootloader the phone is watermarked so no going back to stock and trying to return it under warranty...Thats my only thought as to why.

b/c putting a zip on the dev section with the signed eng-hboot for those that wish to unlock flash, would be the easiest and fastest method by far.

I have no clue if they will watermark it to an extent but thats my only thinking speculation as to why they would take this long on this.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I heard the photon is s-off. Not that it matters or anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
It says it will "...that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint...."

so pretty clear we will be last line to get it which makes sense b/c sensation has been out longer.

im goin with the devs getting it done b4 HTC though to be honest.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
No I don't think its gonna be... But cool if it is

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[HTC EVO 3D] clark44:
Finally LOL I have made the official choice. E3D FTW baby!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
That depresses me because I know its true.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
On number 3

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
nope moto denied those rumors/claims.

"“Motorola has recognized the passion around this topic in our communities. As we’ve previously communicated, it is our intention to include the unlockable/relockable bootloader in software releases starting in late 2011, where operator and channel partners will allow it. However, this feature is not included in the software found on PHOTON 4G.”

Read more: http://www.electronista.com/article...hoton.4g.locked.but.bypassable/#ixzz1RlDoodEV "
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
No I thought AC made an annoucement that it isn't gonna be s-off?.....I could be wrong tho
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
This....

Photon unlocked bootloader+ 10 hour talk time?
[HTC EVO 3D] klbjr:
So August/Sept it is huh? Funny they made sure it was outside of the 30 day return mark. I call BS on the whole bricking phones things. How many people bricked their phone when they rooted and flashed the S-Off/Eng bootloader on the OG Evo or ran Unrevoked3/Unrevoked Forever? I rooted almost 20 Evo's and never even got close to bricking one of them. Using either Toasts or Unrevoked method. I think you guys are exaggerating the risk of bricking the device. They have the technology/engineering already in hand. They designed every inch of the phone. It's not like here were the devs have to reverse engineer stuff, or find/use exploits without knowing in the beginning just how it will affect the rest of the phone. Look how fast we got the Lockscreen update and HTC Watch update. And those OTA's came directly from HTC, not from them to Sprint then to us. They could have been released something to unlock the bootloader if they wanted to IMO. I think this was a matter of the CEO putting his foot in his mouth and them reluctantly having to do something because of it. Well either way, the date is set, so HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! Guess I'll be visiting the Sprint store in a month or so to go purchase my not so new Evo 3D's....again. Hopefully this news will calm everyone down and extinguish all of the flame wars going on in this forum.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Bye

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
well at least this announcement was within the 30day window to return the phone to sprint (assuming we got it day 1)
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
LMFAO!

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
10char....
[HTC EVO 3D] error4o4:
Yes, yes and more YES.

+1

Great news overall!

here is for hoping they leak it early (the base workings of it) to help the community out
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I'm sure something will be leaked before then...

Let alone TeamWin is gonna crack it before then I dunno why people take it personally when HTC gives a eta

Is that what most of you wanted?

You got it now and now your crying it too far away... Well... Get a sgs2 and hope for ice cream in chirstmas maybe Easter... Or possibly summer...

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] u921333:
So with the announced timeframe is that quick enough to.keep all of our awesome devs even if sgs2 and proton launch before the unlock or will we lose a few? Be nice to hear from a couple devs on this :-).
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
I'll end up keeping mine. With the perma-temp root I am satisfied in the short term. I can hold of on custom roms for a bit longer.
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
it says, in august there will be an update that will make it ready to be unlocked in september. Thats why.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
Just as long as there unlock does not take our wifi tether away or some crap they put in it to make it hard on us.Ill wait till everyone has tried it before i even take there update to make sure there update is not fishy with how long they are waiting.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Well, I'm excited to hear this. Once I hit the 30 day of my newest purchase (NS4G) I'll have a tough decision to make...and I'll probably go with the E3D.

Fantastic to hear this. Only another month and a half of everyone going ****ing insane on each other to go.

(It'll only be a tough decision because this camera is completely undeniably fantastic...but, I'm not a photographer, so, whatever...I'm sure the E3D will get a radio update to make it at least livable to those of us effected).

Fun times. Now developers have a time frame...sure, it isn't in the 'sweet spot', but, they can plan around it...we have a time from. As somebody in managemend the September "fully operational" line, to me, sounds like a bunch of CYA. You guys know me, I'm no optimist--far from it. I would be surprised if it didn't happen sooner than that...I wouldn't be surprised if it happened much much sooner than that. CYA is an act of 'expectations management'...under-promise, over-deliver. Only idiots who made it into management by accident (or nepotism) and/or don't care/plan to stick around don't do this...and after the CEO mouthing off with the first response to us I'd imagine 'expectations management' is at the top of their to-do list.

Tsk tsk tsk...for once *I'll* ask for advice--guys, you know me, wat do?
[HTC EVO 3D] mcmikecruz1:
Plus 1 to this
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
I mean really the update will come out lets say 2-4 weeks before they make it where we can unlock it.Who knows what crap they will come up with.Look at what they and sprint did with the EVO.ill keep my temp/perma root or whatever teamwin gets out between now and then and then wait till people download the update and unlock before i leave what i got now.

I do not trust them or sprint to pull some crap to where we can't tether.A update then the unlock? ill wait to see what is in there update.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Yeah, but, look at what Sprint did with the NS4G. I have CM7 on it, I have MIUI on it but what rom am I using? Stock. It has wifi tether already on it and it hauls ass...

...Granted, HTC is no Google. Sprint needs Google, but HTC needs Sprint so that argument might actual be entirely reversed. But either way that shows it is possible...I also think the tiny size of the minority that us and people like us comprise is a strength. Sure, leave it so tethering can be free for those who know, the "nerds", but enough people aren't nerds (and/or don't consult nerds) that they will lose minimal (if any) lost profit...we would have found a way to tether for free anyway and now they have won our support as a customer beyond a shadow of a doubt.
[HTC EVO 3D] 00_MACKIE_00:
Using my phone to tether is ALWAYS a last resort, I check all available wifi connections, lan connections, open hotspots before I would even use wifi tethering. I have phone as modem on my work phone I would use before wifi tether. I am sure there are others like me that do the same.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
Uhhhhh I read August...... Let me find the link again.

Sent in 3D fashion
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
And there are many more that if no wifi tether no own the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
hmm, so this makes me think that we would have to have the phone compleatly up to date with all of HTC's ota updates that come out b4 this......... unlocking the bootloader, but blocking any known root methods
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Bingo. It isn't fun, but when you need a net connection on a laptop it is there for you. Typically this happens while traveling for work when the hotel wifi isn't connecting for some reason and the hotel staff can't help at all--and this seems to happen every single time.

It is a last resort, I'm not downloading movies, I'm checking email, IMing or sending files back and forth to the office.

Even if I were to decide to replace my home internet connection with tether, umm, I've tried that before while I waited for my cable company appointment for a week or two...SUCKED. HARDCORE. But I got my emails, I kept up on my social networks, I sent my files...I sure as hell didn't download any movies or even any music or even visit youtube.

If they actually provided a QoS that could enable that to happen perhaps they should be concerned--but they don't. Hell, if they even COULD provide a QoS to prove that level of service perhaps they should rethink what exactly it is that they should be selling as a service.
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
Does your NS4G camera zoom?:p
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
ooh, sneaky, I just thought about this.

We get s-off...the eMMC is unlocked. But there is no way to obtain ROM root. We can flash our CM7, MIUI, decks, kernel mods, flashable themes...but if you want a rooted sense rom you'd better start hacking....hard...

...that would be fine for me, but, that would totally change the HTC dev ecosystem. Interesting.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Never noticed...I don't zoom. Digital zoom is a worthless zoom. I can always crop and enlarge later with the same worthless effect.

Though lastnight I did notice that MIUI now has what appears to be an exposure slider...actually worked out great.

CM7 and MIUI do zoom. I had CM7 flash in minutes.
[HTC EVO 3D] alammori:
The NS4G does auto focus but not zoom, when I purchased this phone for my wife. she noticed that and told me about. I thought that has to do something with rooted roms. My nephew, who works for sprint, checked a demo model for me and told me that the camera does not zoom.

Now I returned it to sprint and wait for the 3d to arrive.
[HTC EVO 3D] ultra78721:
Tell me about it :D thats why I got the HTC E3D but now with this crap something tells me to get the SGS2:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Good luck getting ice cream in a timely fashion

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianBaker:
hell,good luck ever getting the damn phone at all...I still dont get how people hold out for something that isn't even possibly coming to Sprint or the damn US for that matter...

Either way its your time and your money.Ill take a HTC unlocked bootloader and a locked down wifi tether.We shouldn't be using wifi tether for free anyways.I will gladly pay if they take it away.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
+1

I pay for it now.... No point in being a Jew about it :)

Plus that kinda helps me if they try to say I use "to much data"

(the Jew remark is not meant to offend anyone)

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
Well that is you.Many of us and i say MANY use free wifi tether.So what may not be important to you is important to many.
[HTC EVO 3D] sling:
Very sneaky Sprint/HTC :eek:

So we have choice to install custom rom loose warranty or keep bloated 3.0 no way to customize getting rid of Sprintware.

hmm that would suc
[HTC EVO 3D] ultra78721:
True that...I figured sprints baby is the E3d....Hell the Epic still hasn't even got the OTA gingerbread.. Shift and evo do:p..Epic is a nice phone but i want a phone that will update to the latest os for development roms to take place..

But with this bootlock makes me think about it:confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Here's some Soup. Oh but it'll cost ya $30 for a spoon.

Get what I'm sayin'?
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I'm just defending the epic right here...it took HTC an entire year to migrate from 2.2 to 2.3. Epic's OTA is rumored for end of July/August, which will be nearly 150 days less than the time it took for EVO 4G to get 2.3.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
No it didn't take a year gingerbread came out when? When the nexus s came out... Meaning 6-8 months...

Gingerbread wasn't releases when the EVO 4G was :rollyeyes:

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Is it all you can eat soup?

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] sling:
Ultra78721 you have a disturbing Gif going on in your signature.

Taking any meds?
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Shiot you're right. I guess Samsung really does suck when it come to updates. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
If you got my analogy, yes. Sprint has unlimited data plan.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
Girls Girls im sure as soon as the first unlocked bootloaders are released they can crack them and port them to our EVO 3d's. HTC gave us another confirmation and an ETA and y'all still *****in about it. Gimme a break and an epic Facepalm.

Also don't go and rush to apply the ota because i half expect the exploit to be patched. Let the devs do their thing and they'll let us know what's up.

I remember half the EVO crowd lost root because they couldn't wait two days froth a stock rooted 3.0 ROM. Look where they are now.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Ok well your analogy is one sided....

Rather than charging for the spoon there charging you to "share" your unlimited soup with other people...

It's like going to a "all YOU can eat" buffet and bring 5 friends and letting them share your plate rather than them getting there own...

Name a cell phone company that doesn't charge for teathering?

Can't? ok

Then did you read the contract before you sign it?

You did? Ok good

you had free teathering on a different phone and it makes you feel used to pay for that feature I understand... But to solve it get a different phone or home internet... Or just pay the Damn 30 bucks... It's not that much

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
It's more balanced, but it's like this.

You go to an All YOU can eat buffet with friends, but they all paid to get in, no? Even if they share off your plate, they still get some.

I don't feel bad for tethering because I already pay for my data. It doesn't make logical sense to have to pay to use the SAME exact data that your phone would use surfing on a laptop.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
People can turn 5gigs to 50 because theyll use their phone to run everything on. Netflix, torrents, PS3's, general browsing on 3 desktops you name it. Its one hell of a load on the network.

Also excessive use of data is a breach of contract.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
And ill wait to make sure it still works the free tether before i take any OTA from them.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
No because your friends didn't pay.. there just eating for free or off your "unlimited all YOU can eat Bill"

Same thing your doing with tethering "using phone internet to supply your laptops demands"

And its not that your paying for data but paying to use "more data"

Obviously we can agree tethering consumes a lot of data more than just using the mobile web version

Hench why you pay for the feature

Trust me I came from tmobile and loved free tethering... But hated the 5GB cap...

So if you want free tethering would you take a cap?

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] john nance:
Yea? Well your Jew remark IS offensive! People like you need to grow the hell up so the human race can start learning to get along with each other. Your kind of thoughts and sayings are what brought on the death of over Six Million people!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I'm 23 and grown up not like a ignorant kid like you..

I didn't mean it in a "holocaust" fashion

So shut it... Everyone knows Jew jokes revolve around how "tight" they are with money

And you obviously failed history calls if you think the Jews where slane for being greedy and tightwads

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