yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
Looks like you're mixing up some ROMs. The OP did not ask for a deblurred Benelux ROM, but for the blurred GB ROM, i.e. the retail ROM for the British market.

You're linking to a ROM called JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_UCAJRDNFRYORTCOREEU_P023_A008_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf, which is meant for the other half of Europe. There are a lot of different ROMs that share the number 34.179.2. GB, COREEU, CEE, DACH, ...

"Core EU" is not "GB." The retail GB version has a completely different set of languages, and it's definitely not deblurred.

So the search for the real 4.179.2.MB525.Retail.GB with Blur isn't over yet.

Maintaining websites and keeping links alive is not Motorola's strongest point. Motorola.com is full of dead ends.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hso3f:
Where do you see he asked for blurred rom? You came up with this because you saw gb in systemversion.

Looking at post 5 of this thread and pm that i had with him i'm pretty sure that he is from Belgium:

The system info that OP ask:

The rom that i link:

Not the same rom???

You can see "Moto_Version" and not "Blur_version" if it was a blurred rom systemversion would be Blur_version.34.179.2.MB525.Retail.en.GB, isn't it?

I don't know why motorola left "en.GB" in system version of it, but it's like that. So, This rom that I've linked is the Benelux, western Europe, COREEU, call it what you want, rom. I know that, i'm not mixing anything. This is the same rom i had by msu here in Belgium.

Good luck.

Moto_Version.34.179.2.MB525.Retail.en.CEE is Retail Central Europe and deblurred

Moto_Version.34.179.2.MB525.Retail.en.GB is Retail Western Europe and deblurred

There is also a turkish 3.4.2-179-2 also deblurred.

No trace of a Blur_Version.34.179.2.MB525.Retail.en.GB

Official uk 2.2.2 blurred rom is, i think: Blur_Version_34.177.3.MB525.Retail.GB

Especially modified link. Look I've find an awesome official rom here

But, no release note again...:confused:

but like you say Maintaining websites and keeping links alive is not Motorola's strongest point....:rolleyes:

Edit:

But maybe we can ask to zorofroozo what he was looking for, to clear the situation...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
There are no official deblurred ROMs for the GB retail market. Motorola deblurred a bunch of ROMs for central and eastern europe, but not for the british from GB.

There are plenty of official blurred Motorola ROMs that don't have the word "Blur" in the system version. Motorola not only sucks at keeping links on their site alive. Consistent naming of their ROMs is not their strong point either. And neither is providing timely Android updates or keeping their firmware up to date when they relaunch the same phone with a new battery and the word "plus" tacked on.

The country in which you run MSU doesn't matter. The ROM you get from MSU is determined by the current system version of your phone, not by your location.

By the way, did you notice this discrepancy:

The blue text may say "Retail.GB" but the link points to a URL that doesn't have the letters "GB" in it, and neither does the pdf on the linked page. Instead, the pdf states that the ROM is for benelux, eastern europe, greece, poland and turkey. Not for Great Britain.

The 34.179.2.MB525.Retail.GB ROM that I got from MSU has german, spanish, french, italian, dutch, and portuguese as available languages. And english of course, but so does every other Motorola ROM.

Official UK 2.2.2 blurred ROM was 34.179.2 when Motorola first released it last summer. I still have the Nandroid I made after installing the official blurred Froyo update with MSU. If I could turn that Nandroid into an SBF the OP would have the ROM he's after.

34.179.2 is older than the 34.177.3 ROM, but both are official blurred GB ROMs.

Some differences between 34.177.3 Retail.GB and 34.179.2 Retail.GB:

- 179 doesn't have the extra bloatware (social messaging/networking/sharing/status, cardio trainer, amazon mp3 search) of 177;

- Swype 2.25.67.18335 in 179, Swype 2.25.67.18418 in 177;

- the boot animation pulsates in 177 but not in 179;

- the accounts app is called "accounts" in 177 but "my accounts" in 179, the 179 icon doesn't have the Motorola branding that the 177 icon has;

- the gallery in 179 doesn't have the quick upload button of the 177 gallery.

The blurred 34.179.2 Retail.GB was quickly replaced by 34.177.3, which is why the original SBF is so damn hard to find.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hso3f:
That you don't want to understand is moto devs have left en.GB in system version of werstern Europe deblurred rom... so in this case, en.GB doesn't necessarily mean UK with blur but also Western Europe without blur...

That's the rom that i've linked, with the system info that i've posted, from droid-developers and i have also the nandroid of it (instaled in belgium, on a phone buyed in an shop in belgium, and msu was showing me provider:benelux, just to clarify) to compare...(exactly the same, it says COREEU in the file name, but have en.GB in system version, also JRDNEM in the name, but JOREM in built number.)

So my rom is not that you're looking for... ok, but what makes you say that my rom is not that isn't what zrorofroozo looking for? en.GB in system version? All system info are the same...

Also, you have a nandroid of your rom, you have a link for a most recent official rom for your region, what do you need more?

So I repeat this Sbf has these specifics in phone info:

And it's the Western Europe deblurred rom.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
The OP didn't mention "deblurred" or "western europe" anywhere in his post. There's nothing in the OP that indicates he's looking for anything other than original retail.GB.

The SBF with the ROM that I got from MSU.

A Nandroid doesn't restore the warranty of your Defy. You need to flash an official stock SBF to remove all traces of 2nd init, because 2nd init doesn't clean up properly after itself.

Flashing the most recent SBF doesn't always cut it either, because MSU doesn't always deliver the most recent ROM. If you run 179.2 MSU won't update it to 177.3, even though 177 is newer than 179.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hso3f:
Ay don ! Qu' t' ès hayåve !

trad: You are boring me!

The Op disdn't mention Blurred or UK neither.

Again, you know that by the specifics that he's posted, and specifics is the same. You decided that "system version: *retail.en.GB" means UK blurred rom... but it's not true...

It's not a uk blur rom, I know that!

It's not the rom that you're looking after, i know that!

But it respect all the system info the op post!

So maybe it's the good, maybe not!

As I say before retail.en.GB can be your uk blurred rom, or also western Europe deblurred rom.

The two are original sbf with these system version.

If someone looking after western Europe deblur it's the good one, otherwise it isn't.

Now stop this sterile discussion.

Edit: I've editing the post with the link for more clarity.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] constantin_padure:
Hi...

You have also here some ROMS.

sbf. droid-developers org
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
Did you notice that this ROM with GB, COREEU, and DEBLUR in its name is full of Motoblur? When I tested the ROM it asked me to create a Motoblur account, and the Motoblur contacts sync app, the Motoblur Facebook/MySpace/Twitter sync app, and the Motoblur remote locate'n'wipe functions are all in there.

Never trust Motorola when they put "deblur" in a name.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hso3f:
My only response to that is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7ojq7-3Tw
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
Just because the blur setup app didn't autorun on your phone doesn't mean it's not there. It's in the ROM you linked to, and so are all the APKs for all the Motobloat apps.

That's not deblurred.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hso3f:
Did you really test the rom? I doubt...

Strange!

I have a special phone that doesn't run blur!!!

And only with this rom! (and other deblured rom of course...)

Seriously, it's not just blur setup on boot that did not run, blur setup is neither at boot nor in the drawer, no blur boot logo, no blur account, no blur social messaging, etc...

If this not deblurred, show me a link to an official froyo rom more deblurred.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
Install the rom from your link and have a look in the system partition. All the blur widgets and remote wipe/locate features (which requires a motobloat account) are there, including the apk that contains the blur setup. If your phone doesn't autorun the setup app you can launch it yourself to get the blur account setup screen.

Motorola may have hidden their blur components (sim/ip/region specific?) but they didn't remove anything.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elysir:
I holed himself up in this discussion

I'm interested of this rom "western europe"

is good? ... bug?

are you sure I can not change rom with RSD a fullSBF "Retail Western Europe" 3.4.2 179-002

to "Nordic" 3.4.2 177-005? ... for example ?

I know that you can change between identical "CG Version" :silly:

... and in this case should be "CG Version 4" ... or not?

thanks :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogier666:
The ROM is a standard Motorola ROM. It's got the usual Motorola bloatware (some of it is hidden so you'll only see it if you go through the system folders), and the same bug that bites all Motorola Froyo ROMs: the backlight of the softkeys switches off at random.

It's version 4, so if you never flashed a Gingerbread sbf you can flash this ROM and any other Froyo sbf you like.

If you want to get your phone fixed under warranty make sure that the sbf you flash before turning it in is exactly the same as your original ROM or the ROM you got from MSU.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elysir:
is what I was looking for

thanks a lot
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] EvoXOhio:
Wow there are so many problems with this post I don't even know where to begin. I think I will just address your last line:

Try telling that to the iPhone 3G users who upgraded to ios4 and had a device that was next to worthless. Apple pushed that update out to ose iPhones knowing it would turn it into a piece of **** 100% of the time.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] EVEDork:
Having met way more people with iPodTouch4/IP4/IPad1&2 that do this than those who DO NOT do this, it makes me wonder if the ideology of app devs to take preference to iOS for financial considerations is not completely flawed.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] G1_enthusiast:
....what is the point of this post?

your inability to play with android OS and tweak it is not an excuse for you to say that android is flawed..with that said, i agree some stuff need to be fix, but its minor stuff such as typing on the browser...and...well thats it for me.

if you want something that work out of the box, agreed pick ipad 2, but if your geeky or you like linux pick android, more custimization then IOS can ever dream of.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mughalgxt:
THE firmwares with ripped features for different devices, as they become incompatible with every next release the iphone 3g and now 3gs with ios5. Don't tell me jailbreak is easy, it took the developers 3 months to make a jailbreak for ipad 2 which is still raw with compatibility issues! If buying the idevice is an excuse for free apps...probably games in your case with a new handheld gaming device than off board ye pirate! People jailbreak the device for customisation which is the soul of android os (which is not fresh but time tested and evolving i need not wait a whole year for new features to sprout, mostly inspired and already popular in other os!).

Ever heard of DFU mode, recovery mode? Similar terms and combos are used here! Atleast in android thanks to diversity if one model ain't suitable there is a myriad to choose from! Compare two devices of same platform when making a point.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] goalweiser:
I agree with G1 and the person above but since you decided to share...let me take a turn.

Why you felt the need to justify your iPad 2 choice in an Android related forum is beyond me.

You either realize or fail to see that Apple purposefully limits their tech. Minimal upgrades between generations. Even the newest iPhone won't support 4G from what I have heard yet they want to use LTE patents against Google?

Your train of thought that the iPad 2 is perfect is already starting to form.

The iPad's dimensions do not in any way make it better for video, reading, and web surfing. I was just having a debate with a friend who started complaining about where the dock port was on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. He was quickly shut up when I pointed out that cell phones have the port at the bottom so our hands can grip the sides. However a tablet is meant to be held in LANDSCAPE...that's why sticking the port in a different place was a smart decision.

Point being...he turned into another person claiming everything is horrible with Android. Guess what? He never owned an Android device. He actually has a Touch Pro 2 right now. IGNORANCE!

Look I've had an iPad. I know that jailbreaking it is POINTLESS. Your battery dies out super fast, the app selection is fairly weak, and all of that jailbreaking does nothing but try to replicate an Android experience. But it fails.

Unlike you, I do care about the future. I don't want to live in a world where everybody has the same glossy tablet with a slippery back so you can drop the darn thing. I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do on my tablet. I do not want to support any company intent on holding back technological progress for the sake of money or who buys patents just to sue other companies out performing them.

You have EVERY right to buy an iPad 2 but just know that your choices and who you choose to support speaks volumes. I have friends just like you. One day they're talking about freedom and openness. The next day they're justifying EVERYTHING Apple does. Cool. As long as I have a choice too.

As for your claims about Windows 8, it only serves to buttress how you allowed us yourself to come to your decision.

"Ignorance is bliss." That should be Apple's new tagline.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Itaintrite:
I love the OP and how he compares the worst of Android tablets to the best of iPad2 lol

4:3 is perfect for reading books with less wasted screen space. Yay! Now try reading comics and watching WS movies :) You prefer 4:3 movies? Good for you ;)

Jailbreaking is easy for the iPad2 NOW! But do you know how long it took for the jailbreak to come out? That's right, they've been working on it since the iPad2 was released in March. Four months for a jailbreak to give you the 3rd party features equivalent of... Android. Who knows how long it will be the next time a new iPad/iDevice comes out. Compares that to the usual quick turn-around of rooting an Android device.

I'm happy that you're happy with your iPad 2. It's a nice device. But it sounds like you're just an iOS fan who tried Android and didn't like it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SolusCado:
:) I'm so glad you guys posted such thorough responses, so now I don't have to. I particularly like the point about why an Apple Fanboy felt the need to post his decision in an Android forum was beyond sensible.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] hyann:
God, I really like this post. Spoke about everything I wanted to say.

I dont want to be told what I can or cannot do. I want to tweak, optimize and control every setting that I can. There are tons of problems with JB and everyone, even a non-apple user like me, knows it. And without JB youre just living in a matrix that Steve Jobs dictates.

I would really like to hear the OP thoughts on flash. My friend tried to buy something on the web and couldnt use her credit card on the iphone. in the end I bought it for her using-yes my samsung 10.1- and she wrote me a check. And Steve Jobs is saying people dont need/shouldnt use/ cannot use flash on their mobile device.

This kinda makes me think of how I am training my 2 year old son to use the potty.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lorddeff07:
hmmm

I just recently got a galaxy tab 10.1, after spending the last month using an ipad2, I need both tablets for an app i am building.

And I can tell you this much, anyone that has an iphone will love an ipad2. Anyone that uses an ipad2 will be very very very happy with it.

But trust me, use that device for a month, then switch to honeycomb..... and it will blow you away.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] evolishesh:
One think I can say about apple is so easy to use, than it becomes boring after a while.thats why I have the samsung galaxy tab.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SolusCado:
Apple's draw over its competitors has been its simplicity for years - well before Android. Back in the day it was Microsoft. The sad truth is that reduced functionality in a shinier package is what most people want. Thankfully for those of us with a bit more intelligence, we have products like Android to keep us entertained.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] evolishesh:
You are right. I love android and its platform :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BlackOtaku:
Um, wow. Glad everyone else said already literally everything I could think of responding to the OP with.

And personally, I will never buy a Win8 tablet until I can wipe it and install Android, Ubuntu or MeeGo on it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] hyann:
For the non-ipad users, could you elaborate some points on that? I just want to know some actual comparisons aside from the well advertised facts, ex: flash.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ericc191:
All of these tablets have their quirks and flaws. Mostly with the software. I actually need to return my second 10.1 because it's been randomly turning off like my first. Must be due to heat.

In any case, I will wait for the next batch of tablets instead. Hopefully we start getting some stuff that's really spectacular. Like a processor that can handle the native resolution of HC and has more video codecs.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xManMythLegend:
Colors are pretty drab on ipad and saturated on tab. Both screens need calibration.

Tabs screen is brighter and higher Res. Side by side with same pics regardless of source tab wins everytime. Anyone saying otherwise needs prescription checked.

There's a reason ipadhd is coming. Apple knows full well there display is now second rate.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dmoney94:
I did the same thing,I had the transformer for week return it and waited for the galaxy tab,I love the galaxy tab but too much force closes and app crashing.I exchange tab for ipad2 and jailbreak it.

I am very happy with the ipad,but I miss honeycomb,hope ice-cream sandwich and all manufactures they stop using nvidia Tegra
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TheSonicEmerald:
The hardware is there, and Google is revving up for Ice Cream Sandwich right now, which will hopefully bring some much needed changes to current Android

Tablets.

Sent from my Fascinate with MIUI Gingerbread
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] aSeeker:
The fact that you're here means you don't mind getting your hands dirty.

So you have one simple choice - have your device running as you want it by managing the device yourself, loading ROMs from XDA - or not and wait until Apple decide to fix something.

XDA is fantastic - here there's talented bunch of guys & gals mixing & matching the best features from roms of different vendors into something unique.

There is no comparison between Apple & Android.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
Well, the problem with Android is always the same. People tell you, you can do this and that but they hardly have facts, it's just hot air. 80% of all replys in here have no argument, it's just "my device is the best because I bought it". I like tinkering around and I did with my Galaxy S.

The difference between tinkering on Ipad2 is, that you tinker around software and the perfect setup. For Android it's mostly fixing essential OS problems like GPS, sleep of death, flash etc. while not having many apps to play with. Then Google updates Android and your screwed again and again and then they stop support for your device. They tell you in the face to go an buy the newest stuff.

Android lacks compatibility, it shouldn't be based on specific hardware, it should support everything you throw at it, including Android 4.0 for the first Android devices. There is no argument to go for Android, except 16:9 for movies AND ONLY for that ! Books&Comics are perfect on the pad.

I know that Android 4 should fix that compatibility problem but let's see how it turns out. I bet on bugs and problems and 3month delayed updates from Samsung, while they sell Tegra3 tabs. And don't forget Microsoft, their Win8 System could be a massive threat to Android and Apple.

Oh and yeah, take a look on those newest Android charts, then you know why the 10.1 forum has only 10k posts, while Ipad forums are exploding:

http://www.golem.de/1107/84816.html

There are only 1% honeycomb users, the rest uses Smartphones. Honeycomb is a cheap rush to catch up the tablet train. Sadly but Android tablets are not ready for the market. They should had better skipped honeycomb and pushed on ice cream sandwich directly, so they could have the perfect system waiting for Ipad3. But this way, when the Ipad3 comes end of this year, they will be blown away again.

At least in Germany, every shop puts Android tablets in a corner while having a massiv Apple stand with 20 devices (pad, macbooks etc.) to play with. That way, Android won't make it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] aSeeker:
Android tablets are still an emerging product. 1% may not sound like a lot - but with 500,000 devices being activated everyday - that's 35,000 new Android tablets a week growing at 4.4% w/w.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mughalgxt:
Birds of a feather flock together, this ain't your sky so flock off to your group. If have android related issues specifically tab 10.1 we are here, else apple forums are there filled with issues like notorious apple logo and screen freezes ( NO booting), when trying to customize the over-compatible iOS on jailbreaking. Or trying hand on pirated apps sprouting all over via installous, or the cat-mouse show between the iOEM and iOS hackers. Even finding other sources to boast your loyalty to the brand. This is strictly GALAXY TAB 10.1 RELATED FORUM.

Oh yeah just adding, the terribly organized appstore on ipad/2...apple giving deaf ears to the customer demand. Try browsing the million apps muddled!?!:confused:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BlackOtaku:
I stopped reading here, it's equivalent to:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
That's what I mean. Stupid insults for no reason, only because someone said the device you bought is 2nd class -..-

Everyone who considers to buy a tablet should know more than the Android world and probably, they decide against it. But i sense rage in you for no reason.

XDA is great but community support is lost between flawed OS versions, most work which is done is forgotten between 2 Android updates. Only few roms will be remebered. That's why most devs decide to go for Ipad.

I won't tell you not to buy Androids but I suggest you try Ipads first.

I tried and it wasn't a hard decision, it was clear which way to go.

Also both devices cost the same and 10.1 doesn't offer more connectivity.

Whatever, I say bye for now. Searching for Ipad forums ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jdolmen:
BTW, the 10.1 has a 15:10 aspect ratio, not 16:9. Which for me it's great !