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[Touch HD Android Development] nAUM:
Hi!

I have a similar problem as the one notified by Morfues. I own a Blackstone. Installation went perfectly. Android is booting no problem, and from what i could see there are no other problems other than the touch sensitive buttons not working. More precisely when i touch any of the buttons(call, home, return, end call) the device vibrates but android doesn't perform any action.

I have disabled PIN prompting. And contrary to Morfeus's later post i don't think i misplaced the startup file...

Could you please advise?

Thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm, all of the sudden lots of Blackstone users having issues...? I don't understand, up until today it worked for everyone? Have you guys tried updating to the newest kernel and rootfs from the autobuild services...? See Incremental Updates for more information.
[Touch HD Android Development] smaXer:
is it possible to increase (!) the voltage ?

and how it can be done?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You PM me 2x and post in the thread...?

Oy. I already sent you the link, how-to overclock is the second topic of the FAQ.

http://xdandroid.com/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_overclock.3F
[Touch HD Android Development] geopapax:
@bethybabes69 I've tried this link and buttons fixed working just fine http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=999544 but wifi don't open just says error :mad: any new ideas???

@ arrrghhh I've tried all new updates buttons don't work...
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You can't just throw some old rootfs in and expect everything to work perfectly.

Did you have something dumb in your startup.txt, like physkeyboard=blac? If so, perhaps that's why no buttons are working on the autobuild rootfs.

I compiled a rootfs with g3rm0's changes. I still haven't committed the changes.

Blackstone users with button issues

Do you have physkeyboard=blac in your startup.txt? If so, remove it if you're using the autobuild rootfs.
[Touch HD Android Development] nAUM:
There was no "physkeyboard=blac" in startup.txt.

I also tested from the rootfs build service and can confirm that the last working rootfs is the from 16.05.2011, except for wireless of course. (Not working: 19.10.2011, 18.09.2011, 02.09.2011, 16.08.2011, 16.07.2011)

I'll test the rootfs you compiled right now, sorry i was slow but my internet connections is temporarily quite bad for a number of reasons.

*Later EDIT*

Hey Blackstone FroYo users! The modified rootfs arrrghhh posted works like a charm. Buttons are not only vibrating but also working, and wireless also works!

Don't forget to change startup.txt after replacing the stock rootfs with the new one.

BIG Thanks to arrrghhh!!!
[Touch HD Android Development] ribbe82:
Thank you very much for testing. I'll try it also.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Good to hear. Now I need to actually commit this :o.
[Touch HD Android Development] geopapax:
Thanks a lot I've tried your rootfs and everything works fine, thanks again for your help...
[Touch HD Android Development] Danny04:
BIG Thanks to arrrghhh!

you're giving new live the blackstone!

Latest adjustment is working great!
[Touch HD Android Development] welard:
is there a way to get Proximity sensor working or any other builds that do have it...thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I know it was just recently enabled for RHOD (no public builds have it rolled in tho).

I'm not sure if the same sensor is in the Blackstone or not. I can ask...
[Touch HD Android Development] welard:
ok thanks very much....that would be good of you..:)

this is the spec of the blackstone if this helps : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-2525.php
[Touch HD Android Development] welard:
HI arrrghhh

the new sensors.default.so here :http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1114824&page=17

will this work on our device or would it need to be enable in kernel like the htc rhodum has? in the latest 1356 kernel....which is :htc-msm-linux @ 20111017_080427

ive tryed it but i do assume that it need enabling..... any help thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You need a kernel that supports it. Not on the autobuild yet AFAIK. Especially not for Blackstone, sorry.
[Touch HD Android Development] welard:
Thanks for your responce.....i think ill wait then...
[Touch HD Android Development] IzzyB:
My phone freezes randomly

First thanks for the AMAZING work.

I am able to boot fine and Android runs (wifi and all) - the thing is it freezes randomly and I need to restart.

Any ideas?

Here is my Startup:

set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2030
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off msm_blackstone_pad.vibrate=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 physkeyboard=blac"
boot

BTW - I am using arrrghhh new rootfs.

Thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Are you also on the newest kernel?

What are you doing when it freezes?

Have you tried any of the tips from my Speed Improvements thread? The memory management and overclocking were probably the biggest help that I noticed. Every little bit helps, especially on these old devices.

Does it freeze hard, or if you wait does it come back? Remember the port is far from feature-complete, and basically 0 developers (or testers for that matter) have a Blackstone, so the project unfortunately doesn't put much attention towards it... kinda hard to support something that only users have ;).
[Touch HD Android Development] nAUM:
IzzyB are you connected to the internet when it happens? It might be an app which doesn't work properly.

I have a question too... There are times when someone calls me and when i answer i can't hear anything the other person is saying. It never happens when i call people.

Did this happen to anyone else? Does anybody know what might be triggering it?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
This test build will probably resolve the issue. It creates others tho.

As a "quick fix" try flipping the speakerphone on/off. Should work then. Basically shoddy audio routing code, the kernel kinda "guesses" where to send audio, and it doesn't always do a good job. That thread explains it more.
[Touch HD Android Development] nAUM:
Cool, thanks! Sorry i didn't search first... I just did a bit of testing now and noticed the speakerphone on/off quickfix... :-)

I've been installing quite a few apps and noticed there's not much info on what works/doesn't work on forums(hope i'm not mistaking) but didn't get around to making a thread yet.

Anyway, Android still works great though i had an angry birds/worms incident! :-D
[Touch HD Android Development] berdysz:
Hi guys,

I have a problem with menu layaout in blackstone. After run a software (does not matter which one) I am not able to go back to main menu - window. I do not see "home" icon at the bottom of phone. Maybe there is a problem because I am not able to use hardbuttons (start call, home, back, end call) Do you know how to solve this problem? Many thanks!

Mario
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You can use my rootfs which incorporates g3rm0's layout.

Going to add this to the caveat post. I still need to commit that change too so the autobuild rootfs will have it :o.
[Touch HD Android Development] berdysz:
Can I use only my rootfs? or kernel modules as well?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I have no clue what you're talking about. Your rootfs?

The kernel/modules has nothing to do with the button mapping, if that's what you're asking.
[Touch HD Android Development] berdysz:
I replaced rootfs file with "rootfs-20110902-8b5e9f6_modded" and it is working. All buttons are working correctly. I am not sure what is the difference between these files but good to know that working
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
The keymaps, obviously lol. Glad it's working.
[Touch HD Android Development] IzzyB:
Here are my answers:

1. Yes I am connected to the internet

2. I am using newest kernel

3. Seems random the freeze

4. It is a hard freeze
[Touch HD Android Development] kkwin:
woo! work great now!
[Touch HD Android Development] raz0r09:
Hello,

does sound work correctly by now?

I need it for navigating with Navigon Mobile Navigator.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
When did sound not work...?

I've been with this project for over a year now and sound has always worked. It's not flawless, but it works.
[Touch HD Android Development] raz0r09:
Thank you for your fast response. As written you in the PM I heard that there were some problems with the Touch HD. Did you test Navigon Mobile Navigator with FRX07.1? Will it run or is there too less memory left?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sounds like some paid app.

I've only used Google Nav on Android.
[Touch HD Android Development] bkh831:
pls help..... Home button doesn`t work

Feels great compare with previous version, but after I click in to any app, I couldnt return back to home or main menu, kindly help to solve. Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
From the caveat post:
[Touch HD Android Development] jm_bolt:
A nooby question: what is the importance of having WM installed with or with WM programs. I mean if this build would run faster with a single WM ROM without any program installed (or with basic programs). Thanks fro your answer
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
WinMo has 0 effect on Android. The only thing a light WinMo ROM would help is getting you into Android faster ;). It won't help once you're in Android tho.
[Touch HD Android Development] jm_bolt:
Thanks for your quick reply. Undestood. Any idea on how to increase battery life. Now it takes 10 hours from 100% to a full discharge with only 3 calls. Is this normal? The battery is an original HTC for Touch HD purchased 2 moths ago
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
The memory management stuff in my speed improvements thread will probably help on battery life.

The battery driver is pretty inaccurate, on top of other potential issues with the battery driver in general - some think it doesn't charge to a true 100%, I know it bounces around a lot depending on what's being used...

It's best to be near a charger and top up often. Apps that autosync and having data connected are also a big drain - many have said that simply turning off the data connection when they didn't need it helped immensely with battery.
[Touch HD Android Development] oxygenyess:
Why i can't run android.

Last line on the display show "39.651763] init : cannot find '/system/bin/installd',dis"

help me pls, i try again more than 10 times
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You followed all the steps in the first post? ts-calibration (or the manual steps for calibration), startup.txt, root of SD card or rel_path, etc..?

How long have you waited? Do you ever see a boot animation?
[Touch HD Android Development] HarjitCheeku:
I have addded the code but still the phone shows Waiting for SD Card
[Touch HD Android Development] rady4:
I recommend a maximum speed card 4class
[Touch HD Android Development] kkwin:
Yours is great job!

It is perfect if you can prolong the battery usage. currently my BS only able to stand half a day with original rom setting.
[Touch HD Android Development] Axel64:
Just wanted to say thanks

Installed it on my old Touch HD and it works. So thanks very much :)

A few things though

I did not put the calibration file on the SD card and that made my first startup seem to freeze until I touched the screen. Then I noticed it wanted me to calibrate but the little white blocks where all together on the righthand side.

I had to use the newer rootfs for keymapping which also works well

is there a way to set the sensitivity of the screen? now when I try to scroll I have to press fairly hard and then it thinks I want to enter for example the menu chioce where I try to scroll

should I turn off all radioservices on the WinMo to save power? Is it at all active in the background?

And should I update the radio there to a latest version or does it not use that anymore?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You can read the first post, there's tips on how to manually calibrate.

Touch sensitivity - not really. I don't seem to have a problem with it tho, perhaps with proper calibration? Scrolling is a little different in Android, perhaps you just haven't gotten used to it.

I make sure WinMo is in airplane mode (no radios on) before booting Android.

I also have my radio firmware on the newest revision, I would recommend finding if you are on the latest version or not.
[Touch HD Android Development] phil-w:
Just seem to be having a problem with wifi. Can't seem to find any thing with search so here goes.

On first boot I was able to start wifi and then connect to my router.

Now when ever I try to start wifi It tries for a few seconds then comes up "Error" in the place were it would normally say "connected to ....... "

Any thoughts folks... I'd like to bring my old HD out of retirement

Phil-w
[Touch HD Android Development] Axel64:
Thanks aargh, I did use the calibration file from the first post and it works well. Forgot to mention that. But my point was that the white blocks were acting funny, I assume there is supposed to be one in each corner and one in the center?

As for sensitivity there was an app called hdtune or something for WinMo that worked well, you could change the responsivity and it made a huge difference.

I will upgrade the radio then to make sure I have a latest version.

Thanks again
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I don't know if the bug was ever resolved, but on TI chipsets (which the Blackstone has for wifi&bt) there was a bug with wifi where you could turn on wifi once, but every subsequent attempt would fail until you reboot.

It's a known issue. If it's still occurring, then I'd say it's still outstanding... I thought it was resolved, check the bug tracker.
[Touch HD Android Development] phil-w:
Silly question... Where's the "BUG TRACKER"

Phil
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
http://bugs.xdandroid.com/
[Touch HD Android Development] kam1967:
Android 2.2 constant text scroll during startup

Hi -

I have an htc touch pro 2 running FRX07 2.1. I installed one of the app - it's a silence app and for some reason I cannot boot into operating system. It keeps scrolling and giving me weird messages. It does this nonstop. Is there a file that I can modify to reset it to previous? I have overwritten the root files, but it's still doing it. What could be causing this..?? SOS!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Your first post ever, since joining in 2008, and it's in the completely wrong section stating completely off the wall things.

First of all, FRX07.1 is Android version 2.2.2...

Second, you don't name the actual app? "it's a silence app"? I would delete (or rename) your data.img. Since I have no clue what app you've actually installed, this is your only option really.

Hope you have a backup.

Next time try to take a little more care as to which section you're posting in...
[Touch HD Android Development] phil-w:
Thanks for that...
[Touch HD Android Development] raz0r09:
Hello,

I have copied the content of FRX07.1 to my SD card, put the startup.txt on the root and I have added the commands for the "waiting for SD card" problem. But no success. My Touch HD seems to be in an endless loop, while showing the "waiting for SD card" error.

What can I do? Is the SD Card too slow?

That´s my startup.txt:
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Looks fine from here. set cmdline is all one line in your startup.txt right? Just want to make sure of that.

Do you have a different SD you could try? I wish I knew "why", but the Blackstone seems particularly picky as to which cards work and which don't...

Just curious, what SD is it? Class, size, company. I have a Kingston 8gb class 4, but a completely different phone :p.
[Touch HD Android Development] raz0r09:
It´s a Sandisk Class 4 8GB! And no chance to get Android running ;(

I have tried with several kernels, but no success at all ;(
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I never said a different kernel would fix it for you.

Try a different SD. Preferably something 'classless'. (Older cards, less than 2gb are classless).
[Touch HD Android Development] Dauntless:
I've got a Touch HD with the EDGE rom and sorry if my questions have already been answered, but I couldn't find anything in the FAQ or by searching this topic.

I put android on my SD card in the /android folder and added the path to the startup.txt.

When I start haret.exe, it usually loops the xdandroid bootup animation and doesn't go any further. I say usually, because I've manged to get into android twice, but both times the device became unresponsive after about 10 minutes and the only thing I could do was take the battery out.

What can cause these problems? So I just did this: Instal Edge rom -> put haret.exe (etc) in /android , changed startup.txt (for touch hd) and launched haret.exe
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
It should be going at the root of your SD card. I don't think it'll work in an "android" folder - Android actually creates a folder by the same name on the SD card, so it might interfere.

That's my only thoughts. You're on 7.1? You could grab the newest kernel & rootfs, maybe that'll help. See Incremental Updates.
[Touch HD Android Development] Dauntless:
I created the android folder myself, but it does make sense that this could mess up stuff if xdandroid automatically created an android/ directory

I tried again with a different folder name and it seems to be working now.

The power button still doesn't respond every time I press it (when the device is asleep). Is this a known problem / is there a fix?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well the power button probably responds, but the screen/panel doesn't always wake immediately.

There's a little trick that usually works (it's a well-known bug, which has gotten better over time) - basically touch the screen where you "think" the unlock bar should be. If you do this, I usually simulate swipes, it wakes the screen almost every time. Annoying, for sure... but one of the (many) outstanding issues. ACL has completely rewritten the panel code for NAND on the TP2, and it works a heckuva lot better. Hopefully when more devices are supported (properly) on NAND this issue will be resolved.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Is anyone still working on NAND for Blackstone?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
No developers have a BLAC.

If someone donated a BLAC to ACL, I'm sure he could get it up on NAND. He's had a GSM RHOD for a little while, and he's working thru the issues - but he'll have it booting soon.

So, any one have an extra BLAC they can part with?
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
that's sad.

annoyingly I know 4 people with blackstones, myself (i use it as my work mobile), two others that upgrade to android but gave their blackstones to other members of the family - and one more... i'll see if when they upgrade they want to part with it in my direction...
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
htc-msm-linux @ 20110622_180615 is the one im using now and it works Its the one in this bundle that didnt for me. It all loaded to the android boot screen fine but then died and restarted into WM before android starts.
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
Music player is juddery but plays

Doesnt play .avi files do i need an app??
[Touch HD Android Development] bdacier:
Tested and using: htc-msm-linux @ 20110622_180615 Build right now. Seems to work nicely and fast!
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
lol now you have two people saying that kernel works nicely, duno what was wrong with the one in your package
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yes, you would need an app to play .avi's. Music has been an issue on BLAC for a long time. People were kill -9'ing the [battery] process. Not the best solution, but obviously something in the battery code is not playing nicely with BLAC.

Need some kernel dev with a BLAC - or a kind person to donate their BLAC to a willing kernel dev (not sure who at this point, not many kernel devs have a lot of free time :p)

Heh. Thanks guys, will add to caveat list!
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
not happy phone, didnt like overclocking to 700mhz .... duno why

BUT! 620mhz - The boot screen animation seems faster and smoother and its loaded. I have noticed its quicker during usage as well.

Music sounds like it could be a Clockspeed issue, i bet if it had 1ghz in their it wouldnt do that... its that sound you get when u overload ur laptop with stuff whilst playing music .... ?
[Touch HD Android Development] bdacier:
Just experience my first auto reboot when trying to install spareparts! Wouldn't that be a hint to get is stock in the rom? That way we could map the CALL_END button to HOME....
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
RHOD has the same processor basically and it doesn't happen on this device... Something is screwy in the battery code, because if you kill that process the issue goes away, yes? I had some info on this issue, and I started to post it in the caveat list - but I can't find the actual info I was looking for. Need to do more research... Wish I had the device so I could help moar...

From the Market...? Why don't you just use the one in the AndroidApps/Other folder...?

Either way, this is mapped on RHOD now. I'll ask stine about getting it mapped for BLAC as well.
[Touch HD Android Development] flash0110:
Kernel

Do I have to rename the zImage file coming with the Kernel for BLAC to zImage or do i leave it at zImage_20110622_180615 and just delete the zImage which is included in your bundle?

EDIT:

I renamed the zImage which came along the other Kernel you suggested to use and installed everything following the instructions. Works like a charm! Thank you so much!
[Touch HD Android Development] ypsmav:
Hi arrrghhh,

For the audio stuttering issue, there was already a patch that G3rm0 included into his mod roofts in this thread

He included JB's audio patch.
[Touch HD Android Development] parnunu:
How to change key mapping.

i need home key in android.
[Touch HD Android Development] Eodun:
Download "Spare parts" from market to remap "end call" to Home. It's the easiest way. You can remap shutdown button to end calls too in Settings/Accesibility menu.
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
the camera is not working.

its opens and closes fine but as soon as u take a picture it freezes up.

EDIT:

Restarted and it works... why did it fail before? it said it "could not find or connect to camera"

?

seems to force restart if i press the call button whilst using the camera/galery!
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
ok if i mix arrrghhh's rootfs and mod with g3rm0 patched kernel my phone wont finish its android boot.... again....

if i use both g3rm0 kernel and roofts with arrrghhh's FRX07 build it freezes in the android boot again

i tried an older version of his kernel and it still didnt work with FRX07 .... temprimental mod isnt it

what is a ROOFTS???? whats the difference between yours and this guys?

could arrrghhh add this key formating from his roofts into urs?

EDIT: Tried the latest g3rm0 kernel again after a few restarts and its working :-) playing music much better, occasional hickup but nothing as bad
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
yes please! and music patch in next package
[Touch HD Android Development] faramir86us:
I want to ask a question...

There was an option on Froyo X Red build is that:

When you click long press at home screen, you can choose preferences option and you can easily arrange action bindings double tab swipe up or down etc...

Is there any option at that build like Froyo X Red?

Thanks...
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
no, double check with the OP, but im fairly sure this is just a clean version of the orgional froyo
[Touch HD Android Development] bigheadlyf:
Any thing work perfect in Topaz (kernel:1332), except the incoming call, still need to make a "1'st call" as FRX06, any idea?