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[Touch HD Android Development] dewasha:
the storage massive not work :(
[Touch HD Android Development] motisu:
On the 210 ROM, it is in the multimedia sub-directory
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please read the FAQ. USB Mass Storage does not work, but you can fake it with an application like Droid Explorer.

Nothing there on mine even closely related to FM radio.... The plot thickens. I don't think my phone has the radio.
[Touch HD Android Development] motisu:
Have a look here:http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Rhodium/FM_Radio

It doesn't work on CDMA phones:mad:
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ah... bummer. Well, there was a donor RHOD300 in the pipeline. Perhaps I could make some use of it getting the FM radio working...

That explains why I can't find the app tho - I thought I remembered it didn't work for some reason, and it's been years since I first tried it. Thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] mikereidis:
I'll try to get to #XDAndroid later.

Yes, the Touch HD and the Touch Pro2 seem to have FM. Some descriptions indicate it needs to be "activated" but that may just mean an app or driver code is needed.

The fastest way to see if FM might be possible on any device is to try and run my app and see what the debug line says. It starts with "FM: ". My app is here on the Market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mikersmicros.fm

MANY devices have a Broadcom or Texas Instruments Bluetooth/WiFi combo chip that also has an FM receiver embedded. But unless the proper power, antenna and audio pins are connected to usable places, FM isn't possible.

Usually if there was no stock FM app, then FM isn't possible. But there are exceptions, such as the HTC/Google Nexus One.
[Touch HD Android Development] mr.bryce:
nvm that, its not latitude related, i was getting random freezes from the sd card (msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave)

thnx anyway
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ah. Yea, I wish I knew why Blackstone is so much more picky about SD cards than the Rhodium. It's... way over my head, and I haven't been able to prod anyone into figuring it out either...
[Touch HD Android Development] Morfues:
Help me

Hello,

I installed on my FroYo Bundle ** FRX07.1 blackstone but I have a problem at startup.

Immediately after the phone hangs on installazzione home and nn responding.

Can you help me?

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
Where should i add this command. In startup.txt? And will it truly effect my battery in a negative way?
[Touch HD Android Development] Morfues:
Hello arrrghhh,

I hope I explained my problem.

After you boot the system hangs in the sense that no longer responds.

Clicking on the buttons at the bottom of my blackstone feel vibrate but do not get any signal.

Let me know if that creates problems is the karnel or something wrong in startup.txt.

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You haven't really explained your problem at all. Where exactly do you run into an issue? Do you get the double vibe when you click HaRET.exe? You see the flying text? After a minute or two you see the flying Androids painting XDAndroid (aka boot animation)? Does it make it to the lock screen? Depending on how far it's getting, there could be any number of things wrong.

There's no place to "add this command", other than perhaps froyo.user.conf possibly...

It's meant to be run manually. The point is, this isn't "a fix" for the stutter issue. It's a workaround - and a downright awful one at that. It's pretty obvious what it is doing, but the side effects are less obvious. I'm not sure what it will do, but I'm sure battery reporting and probably battery life will be degraded. I honestly don't know the full breadth of what killing that process effects.
[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
Ah ok. I'll stick to the stuttering then.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Wish I had a better answer. Someone with pretty advanced kernel knowledge is going to have to fix the issue. Obviously it's something in the battery code, the question is "what". I don't have an answer for that unfortunately.
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
Hi

I've installed this and it's mostly working.....

Two questions though.

1. Does the speaker work when making calls?

2. The FM Radio will not be detected during the initial scan unless the headphone jack is connected. The same was true for the Windows build in that if you tried to run the FM Radio application without a jack connected to the headphone port the Radio device would not get found.

---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:12 PM ----------

Also what's the best way to theme this build? I'm new to Android themeing.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
1. Speaker works for me... perhaps it doesn't for BLAC tho, I don't have one.

2. FM Radio I don't think works at all. My phone also doesn't have one of these doohickey's, so I'm useless here as well.

Currently there's no easy/simple way to theme the build that I've found. Most of what applies to a native Android device will apply to our phones/port, but certain things may need modification.
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
Hi

Thanks for the quick response.

I think Speaker isn't working on the BLAC then.

I have three of them (two live and one test).

I'll see what happens when I put the build on one of the others with the headphone jack attached during initial detection and let you know.

I would assume development on this series is pretty much finished? Shame as the BLAC is a great phone IMHO and I hate having to do the 'New Phone Dance' every couple of years!!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Development is far from done... We just don't have many (read - none) devs for Blackstone.

Most devs have some incarnation of the Rhodium. A few have other devices, but to my knowledge no dev has a Blackstone.... which is a shame.

I'm hoping the speaker will 'just work' for Blackstone with the new audio routing. Hoping to get a test build of that out soon, keep on the lookout for it ;).
[Touch HD Android Development] Morfues:
HI arrrghhh,

I try to explain the problem better.

After you click on it runs the startup Haret.exe regularly.

The problem is present when Android starts immediately after the PIN on the HOME screen.

Any such operation is performed. Tutorial, menu access', access to the phone system hangs no longer responding.

I hope I have clarified the problem better.

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Disable any SIM PIN you have in WinMo. Android cannot function if you have your SIM locked with a PIN in WinMo.
[Touch HD Android Development] Morfues:
I have already done this test but still does not work.

Karnel can be a problem?

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Doubt it, considering other Blackstone users are on the same kernel, no issues (or at least not the issues you describe!)

If you have to enter a PIN in order to get into Android, you're doing something wrong. You should just see a lock screen, and the desktop once unlocked.
[Touch HD Android Development] Morfues:
Ok I managed to solve the problem.

The cause of the problem was that the file was placed in the wrong spot Startup.txt.

Is there a way to import contacts from Windows to Android phone?

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Easiest way would be to sync your contacts with Google. Then all contacts stay in sync between WinMo and Android.

If you already have your contacts in Outlook or something, export them to Google. If you only have the contacts on your phone, make sure you back them up with PIMBackup and then sync with Google in WinMo. Once WinMo has sync'd all your contacts, go back to Android, sync in Android and done.

This is covered in the FAQ...
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
Is anyone else finding the clock is running madly off time? My clock is losing nearly an hour a day with the Froyo build on it....
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did you bother reading the FAQ? Obviously not. You should.
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
Excellent work my friend but with sorry for me wiffi don´t work
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Read the FAQ for a fix if wifi has never, ever worked and won't even scan. Not everyone has this issue, but some phones don't seem to pass their MAC address on to Android correctly/properly/at all.
[Touch HD Android Development] poroff:
First of all I would like to thank arrrghhh for the excellent bundle, it is running great on my BLAC! Apart from the sound glitch and battery drain everything is functioning properly.

However I can't figure out a way to automatically run haret when booting WM. I read the FAQs, installed Python on the device, but as I don't have any experience with this programming language I just can't run the delay script on WM. I created a file called delayed_start.py on my PC and pasted the following script inside:

Then I transferred the file in the StartUP folder on my BLAC but I got an error when trying to run the script, saying that there is no application assigned to open this extension. How do I get the script running automatically every time I boot my device?

Thanks in advance for your answer and sorry for the rather noob question :)
[Touch HD Android Development] ThaiDai:
You can try my loader with the FRX07 build and get a timer without python scripting.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Why don't you just use Gen.Y? After install, just set the registry keys to boot Android automatically.
[Touch HD Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
keyboard GB

hi arrrgh thanks for your work is possible change keyboard whit GB keyboard?

my hands is very big thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You can change out the keyboard for whatever keyboard you wish. Some like Swype. I saw someone else post an IME for the HTC keyboard... looked pretty slick.
[Touch HD Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
Thanks for reply i see in android market or in xda?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Depends on what keyboard you choose. There's many possible choices, I couldn't possibly list them all.
[Touch HD Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
i like and for my hand is good GB style is possible???Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Uhm... what?
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
I think he's saying it works well for him and is the UK keyboard available.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
UK keyboard...? His profile says he's from Italy...
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
Just a 1 hour flight from London....
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
LoL, I'm not here to speculate, thanks. I'll wait until he responds. Lest we make assumptions, and we all know what that gets us...
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
Hi

Just to let you know I installed this onto my second BLAC and the speaker does not work during a phone call there either so looks like it's a real bug rather then a one off.

Otherwise I have to say great job, I've only found two niggles which you're already aware of......

It eats batteries, due to the power management issues I guess.

The clock drift problem, I read the FAQ and have a question. Under 'nix you can actually have a drift file as part of the NTP setup on each machine, the drift file keeps the local clock in accurate time with the real world. Does Android not use the same underlying code? If yes could a drift file not be implemented?

Regards
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hi,

See my test acoustic build - speakerphone should work just fine in-call with this build ;).

As for eating batteries, make sure GPS is disabled and the phone is properly sleeping. A phone that isn't sleeping properly will kill a battery very quickly.

With that said, even if the port was 100% perfect, Android would still drain more than WinMo - it's simply doing so much more, and especially if you have apps background sync, etc...

I don't think Android uses typical/full blown NTP services... but I do know what you're talking about. I don't think this drift is even close to predictable, it seems to be UI-induced - for example, people found using the phone actually slowed the clock more than just having the phone sit idle. ClockSync seems to be a great solution, because it bumps the clock back into line every so often. Of course, if providers just distributed NITZ properly, none of that would be necessary.

I'd have to ask if there is a better way to leverage NTP.
[Touch HD Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
wake up screen

hi arggggh is possible have wake up screen when arrived sms or mail???

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I already answered you on another forum.
[Touch HD Android Development] uberto.costanzo:
thanks bye
[Touch HD Android Development] pinsb:
One other problem I've noticed.

When you press the power button to take the phone out of sleep mode it goes back into sleep mode far too quickly (before you can even hit the unlock slider), sometimes within 1 second.

Is this a user adjustable setting somewhere?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is actually a bug.

Sometimes the panel takes a while to wake - I've just got in the habit of touching the screen around where the unlock slider *should* be. For whatever reason, this usually wakes the screen almost immediately, and keeps it awake. An annoying bug for sure, but if you do this (touch the screen after you hit power to wake it) the phone won't go to sleep on you like that so much.

There's at least one patch that I know of that probably should be applied against the panel, and I'm sure there's other improvements that could be made.
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
Ok chaps, i have a funny issue right now...

blackstone- stock win6.1

no matter what configuration... no matter what combination of kernals, startups, harets.

I run haret... and the bar loads to full. it vibrates twice. then restarts into windows.... why on earth?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Have you tried formatting the card (FAT32) with the HP Tool? Or how about a different card? There's some lines you can try putting in the startup.txt too, (this is in the caveat post)..

msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave

I take it you've never been able to run Android? If you're getting the double vibe, the kernel is picking up... do you see anything on the screen between the haret bar filling, the double vibe & reboot? Just a blank screen or...?

I'm trying to think of what else could cause this. I'm leaning towards SD card (in case you didn't notice) because the Blackstone is especially finnicky as to which type of card it will accept. Wish I knew why.
[Touch HD Android Development] alphecca911:
yes i have managed lots of different androids before... then one day it stopped.. same card... and nothing is coming up between the double vibe and reboot... frozen screen then black then reboot. i will try ur caveat and formating the card just to FAT32... althought i thought it need the 3x ext2 formats as well?

edit:

i tried just FAT32 formated.. and ur caveat... same issue
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hum... I would try to figure out why "one day it stopped". What changed..?

Also, perhaps you're thinking of another build...? XDAndroid builds have always needed only one FAT32 partition. Additional partitioning is not needed at all.
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
Can anyone help a stupid guy a keyboard during the instalacion apers in the top and don´t desepares don´t let me do anything how to remove because i install 10 times and appers again.

Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Post your startup.txt file in [ code ] brackets ([ code ] startup.txt goes here [ /code ])

This is the command that disables the virtual keyboard:

msmvkeyb_toggle=off
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2030

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off msm_blackstone_pad.vibrate=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1"

set cmdline "rel_path=Android"

set cmdline "msmvkeyb_toggle=off"

boot

This his my startup file whats wrong here?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
A few things.

First, I don't think you can put everything in a folder "Android". Android actually creates a folder with the exact same name... Can we try a different directory name?

Second, set cmdline entries should all be on one line. Like this:

set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off msm_blackstone_pad.vibrate=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 rel_path=FRX07.1"

Try changing the folder name to FRX07.1 and use the cmdline above. Remove the other two set cmdline entries you have in your startup - again, only one set cmdline... line. ;)

Edit - I just realized you weren't having issues booting just the virtual keyboard.... perhaps you can have everything in a directory called Android? Just seems like a bad idea to me, since Android actually creates a directory called... android.
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
Thanks my friend works perfect at first time with no problems.

Now i'm gone try to find an update or something to put working wiffi because i already try do what you said to me some time ago but the phone get the mac adress but try to connect but with no results.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yea.. I was discussing this problem with the devs. We might have a solution for that soon...
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
Thanks once again you are true friend always present when we need.

I wait.

By the way do you now HTC sync and if it work to sync the contacts betwen outlook and the phone your you now another one.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I sync with my Google account.

The wifi fix won't happen quickly, so in the meantime if you need wifi you'll still have to do the old fix if it doesn't work for you...
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
sorry wich one you refer can you give me the links please.

Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Links?

I'm not sure what you mean. If you have a GMail account, you can sync your contacts with it... I sync both Android and WinMo (or at least I did when I used WinMo...) so it would always stay in sync, no matter what OS I was on at that moment.
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
I was refering to wifi fix sorry :)
[Touch HD Android Development] wizzard902:
FRX7.1

Yow dude....I've managed to have a good run on my HTC TouchPro 2 with this new ROM. There are a few things I can mention about that maybe helps in your development. What I did was is used the startup.txt file from the Rhodium 500 and this is what I got.............

(1) The ROM installs fine but there are a few glitches during start up thats very hard to see at times...is it possible to increase the font size during the boot sequence? and place this in landscape mode? it makes reading the troubles a bit easier.

(2) FRX7.1 has a program limitation as far as I've noticed...I placed several apps into the AndroidApps folder but just a few where allowed for either the kernel doesnt accept it during boot or only a certain amount of apps can be installed.

(3) Palringo works sublime ,im+ Messenger keeps seeking a connection ( never worked on 7.1) , Opera 6.1 mini crashes instantly ,WhatsApp installs but when applying the users configuration it gives the message that it cannot install fully on a fixed or addapted ROM. PingChat on FRX7.1 works fine.

(4) I managed to have my 3G and tested 2G connection working fine. My trick was after the installation boot ,make sure the right settings from your provider is placed such as APN ,Proxyserver and Port number.

(5) Market place works heavenly ,but there are some other apps you can add with 1Mobile Market.

(6) Google voice dial didnt work i gues I have to activated on the site...I'll look into that later and figure it out.

(7) Camera worked fine on the HTC TouchPro 2 , so I desided to test the WebCam on TP2 with the new Fring Video chat....and well with a little crackle into the audio it started but the video image was quite sharp for the format it was picking up to send.

Hope this gives a little insight on the update...by the way the audio works great.

Good luck and thanks a bunch...gonna pass my donation to you guys now
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
It's in the FAQ. Giant links to that in the first post :rolleyes:

You know you're posting n the Touch HD section... right?

Here's the right section - http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=589

Is the phone actually booting? If yes, then the text doesn't matter.

They all install fine for me. How many apps are we talking about here? Have you tried placing the troublesome ones by themselves? If you install the apk thru adb install or with some file explorer app, does it work?

Is this a question...?

Should work fine out of the box. If you don't have the service activated, that would be a problem :p.

Seems silly with a rear cam only, but cool!

Thank you, enjoy!
[Touch HD Android Development] CLCL:
Originally Posted by CLCL View Post

I was refering to wifi fix sorry

It's in the FAQ. Giant links to that in the first post

I don,t find nothing sorry for be stupid and don´t understand nothing
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Christ.

Look in the FAQ. Look for wifi.

Oh look at that...
[Touch HD Android Development] themeghanis:
Restart

I tried to conenct wifi and it is restarting my device....

Any help?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is a Blackstone?

Do you have any logs from the situation? It resets all the way to WinMo..?

Have you tried different kernels?
[Touch HD Android Development] aymericHTC:
Tanks for this release :)
[Touch HD Android Development] little john nl:
nice and smooth :D
[Touch HD Android Development] hwarang:
Why when I run phone with thaidai loader under FRX07 BUNDLE, it always gives me a force close error continuously ( android process acore stopped unexpectedly) ?? :confused:
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I don't know. Can you try doing it without the loader...? Is it any different? Many people use FRX07.1 and don't have problems. I think ThaiDai converted the build to CWM, I would prefer you try it looped.
[Touch HD Android Development] hwarang:
Why when the screen powers off it takes about a minute or two to be turned on again, i push the power on button about ten times to turn the screen on ?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
If you power it off and try to power it right back on right away it won't react well.

If you power it off and let it sleep (my device typically takes 1-3 seconds to sleep nowadays) it *should* power back on quickly. If there's a lot of background processes going on, it won't wake very quickly.

Also, there's also the bug where the panel doesn't always come up. If you see the panel turn on but not fill (ie blank screen) touch where the unlock swipe *should* be. Sometimes this will wake the device.

However - you should never, ever under any circumstances repeatedly hit the power button 10 times. That's just not productive, and is like clicking 15,000 times on the same thing when your PC is frozen, lol.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
Lol clicking the power button multiple times fast will just turn the screen on and off without it getting time to power on.
[Touch HD Android Development] hwarang:
Also phone restarts and freezes sometimes and gives me a WiFi error
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
*shrug* wifi works fine for me. This port isn't perfect.
[Touch HD Android Development] geopapax:
I've just completed the instalation of the android, phone opened and works smoothly except the home button the back button and the green and red buttons are not working so i can't use it. Anyone any idea?
[Touch HD Android Development] bethybabes69:
Same here, only power/sleep button is working, no software buttons.

*EDIT*

Tried it with this rootfs/modules/zimage and buttons work, not sure of other implications yet.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=999544