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[Thunderbolt General] RootandBoot:
Xda is so full of ish now it's ridiculous. BAMF created there own site to get away from xda, because of xda policies. Not users. If you dout that, go sign up on their site and see how the mods are instructing users to treat others. Its clear that the berating and insulting comments won't be tolerated over there. There are actually mods there that monitor the threads and keep it civil. Xda has gotten to big for their own good with the amount of oversight that they currently have. I run a BAMF Rom, it makes it so much easier for them to have their own site. Everyone there is a BAMF user. It makes finding solutions a lot easier. And regardless of the reason why they left, it was time for them to leave anyway. They had reached the point where they needed their own site to support their users without going through xda. As of yesterday they already had over 1000 members. I think they will do just fine on their own.
[Thunderbolt General] mb02:
Its funny how all you noobs already think you're so special after like 2 months being on xda but criticize senior members for getting irritated at your stupid questions and acting "holier than thou" after years of being here. Despite what your mom told you growing up, you're not that special. You all fail.
[Thunderbolt General] Turb0wned:
I understand the whole people talking bad or saying stupid **** to the dev's to get them pissed off BUT, come on what are they 5 years old? Its the internet, its a forum, people will always talk stupid ****. To cry about it and and say lock this thread i'm out of here, is childish.

With that said though, there are alot of idiots on this site lately so I understand there frustration.
[Thunderbolt General] satseaker:
I got just one question,if xda is the top of line and no dev can survive without being on xda,why is it that most of the important info for beginners and hacks alike originates from androidpolice? Xda will survive without bamf or chingy and you know what I bet chingy and das bamf team will do just fine without xda.

Sent to you via my handheld cellular communications device
[Thunderbolt General] satseaker:
I think I know who wont survive and thats the flamers,trolls and lazy wanna be's that think they are entitled to set demands to the devs.

Sent to you via my handheld cellular communications device
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
We moved due to xda management, not the users. Although the poo flingers ate making it an easy decision.
[Thunderbolt General] satseaker:
Ad you guys dont owe nobody an explaination,its your project and you do with it as you please,me for one dont care where you guys post it thats where I will get it!

Sent to you via my handheld cellular communications device
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
I've been on here for years, and I have to side more with the noobs then the longtimers. The insults people hand down to new people for such petty things as not searching this huge site is sad....
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
Most of my followers come from other sites. Xda did not make me, nor will break me. Xda is not the android community.

True if you had mods and admins that gave a rat's ass, this stuff would be deleted. Plus we wouldn't have left due to their dumbass decisions.
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
WE ARE NOT LEAVING DUE TO THE USERS.

WE ARE NOT LEAVING DUE TO THE USERS.

WE ARE NOT LEAVING DUE TO THE USERS.

WE ARE NOT LEAVING DUE TO THE USERS.
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
That I can agree with.
[Thunderbolt General] stanlalee:
Because the thread says Chingy AND BAMF. the original post ask about future dev's leaving and it ask for new Dev's opinion.

If you had took time to read you'd have seen that....just kidding :D (just put it there to show the typical type of comment that push threads downhill)
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
look Stan, Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
wow!!!, this post makes absolutely no sense...
[Thunderbolt General] chimpsnest:
I just can't believe that people were so offended by a statement in a signature that they actually complained about it to XDA (according to what I read in the link to Uncut Android).

I'm between Agnostic & Atheist myself, but if I'm following a dev I could give a crap less who they pray too, just make my phone schweet :D

peace
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
you are not aware.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Are You Aware...

stanlalee was loling. I replied with some loling of my own. lulz were had (by me)
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Those "moderators" are part of that same "facebook generation"... what do you expect from a forum based on hacking cell phones?
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
Sounds like typical "Big Government" Rules.. any chance the rules were framed by someone living in a socialist country? (Europe maybe?)..:D
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
And a religious signature SHOULD be censored... this isn't the place for it and those with different religions or no religion shouldn't have to look at it... not here.
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
boo freakin hoo. This place really is one huge cluster. Not sure how the developers do it.
[Thunderbolt General] leoingle:
Really, I have to say it's all stupid. I have been on XDA since January of 2007, back when we were doing custom ROMs for phones like ATT 8125. I have been here longer than about 99% of the people I see post here. I dont blame devs leaving and starting their own forums. It's a little bit fault from alot of aspects. From what I have seen over the years, it's mostly newbs thinking they are owed something and long time users thinking they are better than new people. But this happens with every forum that gets popular. It happened on softballfans.com which I have been a member of for a long time. I have seen this place go through alot of changes over the years and slowly it is always for the worst. but with that being said, I would be here over androidcentral anyday. that place is filled with more db's than this place is by a long shot.
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
why is this not the place for it?

should there be a segregated place for people to express their personal convictions?

Lets return America to those wonderful Jim Crow era laws, right?
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Europe isn't a country
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
why do religious people feel the need to broadcast their beliefs? I mean even down to a signature on a cell-phone-hacking forum??? Come on, the question is why would you even think that this IS the place for it? Should people be able to say whatever they want in a sig? And YES, there is a segregated place for your convictions, it's called church, and people that don't agree with your beliefs can simply go to a different church, or no church.
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
yes.

I heart the constitution.

there is no "controlled admittance" to membership to xda.

yes, I'm a Chrsitian but yes, the same concept applies to those that oppose Christianity or it's principals. That's the cost of freedom. Freedom also allows me to leave places where I am personally offended.

Thank God (or Allah, or Ghandi or the tooth fairy) for freedom

In this thread alone, an atheist commented. Do you not like the fact that he described himself as an atheist?
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
Nothing wrong with it being in your sig, screen name or whatever. Its the conversation that doesn't belong here. If you're annoyed by a signature you're the one with the problem. Are you afraid of being converted by a signature? If you asked a question about a rom and his response was "Jesus saves" then you have a point.
[Thunderbolt General] kurttrail:
Then you shouldn't mind my new signature:

Jesus is the gay love child of Yahweh and the Holy Ghost

Sent from my vaporware 4g Xoom
[Thunderbolt General] VolDroid:
OMG! +100. Exactly my feelings. If YOU don't like it then ignore it. But why are YOU more privileged that I am? Why must I have your non religious beliefs crammed down MY throat? I'm not forcing you to pray, go to church or anything else by having a quote or scripture verse being in my signature. Get a grip and a life already. This politically correct BS has gone too far all over the world.
[Thunderbolt General] dadsterflip:
No wonder why they left. People can't stay on topic. People argueing over a sig. Really. By now a moderator should have stopped this but nope.

And we ask why devs are leaving... It's people like YOU and YOU know who you are. Nuff said
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
that's it!!!! I'm offended

by your avi

:D
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
Well, we're "discussing" a sig because a sig is what started this. And the fact that a mod hasn't stepped in yet is part of the problem and another reason the devs left. I personally don't have a horse in the race either way but before you point fingers you should understand how it started. The sig isn't off topic, it technically is the topic, well until the mods close it :)
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
Thanks for the enlightenment.. but you missed the point I guess. I guess if I had specifically said "some country in Europe".. you would have been satisfied.
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
I'm so tempted to discuss this from a political stand point.

Liberals vs. Libertarians anyone? :p
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
I'm a liberal, watch it :)
[Thunderbolt General] dadsterflip:
I understand but as far as I saw. Topic was departures Chingy and bamf until it got hijacked by the sig problem. Anyways just more forums to browse around that used to be in one place.
[Thunderbolt General] happimeal:
Sigh,

You know what, I am a christian, and I do agree this is not a religious forum, but comments like this above should be just as untolerated as simply saying Jesus Christ in a signature.

Whats amazing is XDA can make someone take Jesus Christ out of a signature, but I have seen every cussword, excessively rude and disrespectful language, just plain trash talk, and it's all totally allowed.

Kurttrail, keep that talk up, you will have your day in front of the creator.
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
they left because of the sig issue (sig issue was straw that broke a BAMFers back).

that's why we are talking about the sig issue.

now let me issue a sig of my own: http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mustang.jpg
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
I'm not a religious guy.. and even in the days when I was a believer.. Jesus certainly wasn't my God.. But I have absolutely no problem with religious people or people brandishing their religion. Lets face it.. religion and religious people are mainstream.. the rest are not.

Ironically..even though I'm an agnostic leaning towards atheism... I am more comfortable among people with faith . rather than among people who vehemently oppose mainstream ideals to be practiced just because a small minority might be offended. Well, screw the minorities.

Lets just say.. when I see schools banning students from carrying rosaries just because some gangs use it as symbols or because they have some screwed up understanding of separation of church and state.. I'm pissed!

I'm pissed generally at people who want to frame laws to cater to the lowest common denominator.. but want to thrust it on everybody.

It is this same kind of people who will assume that 3 year olds to 90 year olds are terrorists.. unless proven otherwise.. just because they refuse to profile based on behavior and patterns (even if not race)..

Okay.. there!.. I've made it political :D
[Thunderbolt General] obededom:
BUT...if you support a member being able to say "Jesus is my Savior" you also must (at least in principal) tolerate kurttrail saying what he did...

you can't pick and choose who gets freedom.
[Thunderbolt General] tahj78:
I don't complain about people's ugly offending avatar pictures that expresses who they are. . . . what's the difference between that and a signature????????

So much for living in a free country. Freakin crybabies!

WHHHHAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Feels like I'm in high school again. . . .

Don't like gay marriages? Don't get one..

Don't like cigarettes? Don't smoke them..

Don't like abortions? Don't get one..

Don't like sex? Don't have it..

Don't like drugs? Don't do them..

Don't like porn? Don't watch it..

Don't like alcohol? Don't drink it..

Don't like guns? Don't buy one..

Don't like your rights taken away??? Don't take away someone else's
[Thunderbolt General] sithdroid2187:
AMEN to that my man!
[Thunderbolt General] Espadax:
This! so damn true! :D
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
Boy this thread went down the hole quick. Ive known for years xda has been going downhill. The moderation in non exsistent. You think this section is bad try the evo and evo3d sections. This is why i may start visiting more friendly sites as ppcgeeks. Android central is worse than here with the moderation. I got banned over expressing my opinions on the ns4g and its signal issues. All nazi moderation. Xda is the only site with the best devs and roms.

Im just afraid if all these devs create their own websites the noobs will get confused more so than they are now. We need a centralized location. I suggest ppcgeeks as the mods seem cool there and not over the top.
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
Because its easier to criticize than to take the high road or turn the other cheek. Frankly, the inmates are running the asylum.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
Viva la revolution! ;)
[Thunderbolt General] nrfitchett4:
my bad, didn't catch your sarcasm. :D

their forum, their rules. They are there to try and keep things clean and on topic, and to promote their forum.

If you are going to censor religion and politics and to hotbed topics, maybe clean up the other extracuricular crap as well. To censor a sig that has been the same for years when every other thread turns into a flame war is not proper allocation of resources...

agreed. Would have been on here sooner, but since xda was more euro flavored back then, there wasn't much support for cdma devices.

Love your sig, I'm a taurus man myself...

Used to be that gsm flocked to xda and cdma lived over at ppcgeeks. Learned that quick when I switched to t-mobile. But now, even cdma doesn't seem to get as much traffic as it does here.

ppcgeeks has had their own drama with devs. Just ask mightymike and indagroove.
[Thunderbolt General] rajuabju:
Been around long enough to know:

Not the first time its happened, wont be the last.

Not a big deal, IMO.
[Thunderbolt General] sublimaze:
That's fine. If religion is prohibited in signatures, then ban everything else that does not directly pertain to a "cell phone hacking forum". That includes any mention of the kind of car you drive, your favorite sports teams, university, etc. By your logic, if it is not directly related to cell phones or phone-related software, then this isn't the place for it.
[Thunderbolt General] :
Time to go to rootzwiki guys.
[Thunderbolt General] studiorat:
I as well have been a lurker not posting to much. But Have the utmost respect for the Dev's....unlike some of these Foul mouths who wanna be Dev's...I do not think, nor do I imply I am anything but a user, sad day indeed Chingy and Bamf are both beasts at their game!!
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
Why did Skyraider leave though? I feel cheated!:mad:
[Thunderbolt General] Kronofile:
I couldn't read through this entire thread...but this particular post made me think of Atlas Shrugged. I hope you don't hate that I said that.
[Thunderbolt General] brisdaddy1207:
Agreed
[Thunderbolt General] happimeal:
Your absolutely right, and XDA seems to support, or at least allow people saying stuff like that.

If anything XDA is picking and choosing by allowing some chatter like that, but not others.
[Thunderbolt General] abn75:
He left at the same time the rest of team bamf left.

sent from my bolt
[Thunderbolt General] happimeal:
Don't feel cheated, teambamf.net, and enjoy his work there :)
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
i know.. I was just being facetious. I'm sure he'll continue his good work there.. which I've already registered to tap into :)
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
That's right, this isn't the place for any of it, sigs should be device related only. Who cares what someone's favorite team is, we are all here to hack phones, not see what Joe Schmo drives, or what church he goes to.
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Correct... and what countries in Europe are currently socialist anyway?
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
There goes the neighborhood :)
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Thanks for sharing.
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Oh, you don't mind the "politically correct" when it protects your rights and religion though right? And nobody was pushing "non religious" anything, but why do I have to ignore it? Why don't you just keep it to yourself??
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
Its a signature, he's not preaching to you. Get over it. Do you want to censor avatars as well?
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Geez, is this a cell phone hacking forum or a Church?
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Nobody cares about your religious orientation.
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
yeah, the atheist should keep it to himself also. My question to you is why? Why is it necessary? Why do I have to know that you're christian? Why do you have to make sure that you are allowed to let us know what your religion is? Just why? And not "because it's my right", but why, a REAL reason why...
[Thunderbolt General] sithdroid2187:
AMEN

From the wiki site: "Common English translations of the word amen include: "Verily," and "Truly." It can also be used colloquially to express strong agreement,[2] as in, for instance, amen to that.[4]"

It doesn't have to necessarily be synonymous with church going peoples.
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
Avatars, religious sigs... I thought this was a cell phone hacking forum?
[Thunderbolt General] satseaker:
How so just go register at teambamf.net, how can you be cheated does he owe you something

Sent to you via my handheld cellular communications device
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy484:
hmmm... I didn't know that, but it was meant religiously and you know it.
[Thunderbolt General] sithdroid2187:
Well the information in this thread about why they left and how people treat others around here has prompted me to leave this forum. It is unfortunate as I found tons of great information here. I have found other sites where I can get said information with out the childish behaviors and such.

Good Bye XDA!
[Thunderbolt General] BoulderGeek:
Cool thread, bro.

Much value added. <insert circlejerk icon here>

I hope it adds to the integrity of the forthcoming software.
[Thunderbolt General] leoingle:
Thanks for reading
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
It is, so...hack your phone and ignore the signatures :) this topic is gone on long enough. I bow out :)
[Thunderbolt General] Mustang302LX:
lrs421 can probably attest to this but some of the users of the TBolt here are absolutely just flat out jerks for no apparent reason. I was on the Atrix then the Inspire before the TBolt and those guys (Inspire devs/users) were seemingly much more helpful then the folks in the TBolt section. Any time someone had an issue with their Inspire people would offer solutions not tell them they are an idiot or look it up. A lot of people here are great but it's just a different climate. Here if a new person asks a question they get hammered with "cant you read/search n00b?" by countless users. The devs always seem eager to help but disgusting users keep people away.

I personally believe if someone asks a question that was answered already and that bugs you just ignore it OR send them a PM and kindly let them know about the serach function. There is NEVER a need to make someone feel like garbage for asking a question. Not everyone is a technical guru and that doesn't mean they shouldn't root. When I cam to Android from iPhone I could JB and modify lines of code to make my phone more personal and better UI wise but Android was a different beast. It took me lots of reading to be able to do things and now they are easy. Let people learn in an environment that allows for the learning process not one that has anger and rudeness filled in it.

I think BAMF leaving sucks as they produce AWESOME ROMs but it's their choice and I for one see why they left. I still enjoy helping people on XDA which is why I won't leave but come on people....take a chill pill it's an internet forum just help people out and have fun don't be rude to new people!
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
Why do I have to ignore your post? Could you please not post so I don't have to ignore them, thank you.
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
I could not agree more and at the end of the day its just a phone. Well said Mustang.

I'm starting to miss At&t, wait, I take that back :-)
[Thunderbolt General] Mustang302LX:
lol you shuld be banned for saying that! haha
[Thunderbolt General] MisterDonut:
.. can someone just link chingy's rom to this site.. lol i love chingy's roms
[Thunderbolt General] Virus:
can't we all just hit a bon? :)
[Thunderbolt General] Old MuckenMire:
No, I don't know it. Just because YOU interpreted his statement: "amen to that my man" in religious terms does not make XDA a church.

It is overly sensitive people like you who are part of the problem. You have no respect for others and just because YOUR sensitivities get injured you put it on everyone else.
[Thunderbolt General] ziggy471:
I know this isn't the appropriate place, but his ROM thread is closed, so I can't reply there.

For someone that never kanks someone else's work, I'd like to know why he posted a ROM with MY kernel in it, the only place that kernel has EVER been included is in Synergy, and that initially was more of a leak than anything else.

Also, it's interesting that as soon as I modify the Quick Settings, it appears in his ROM too. If you don't believe that, ask chingy, I showed him how I was able to modify it in about 30 minutes after Eschelon asked me about it, would have been faster if I already knew smali.

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[Thunderbolt General] Virus:
btw nice fourms bamf :)
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
Are you stupid?

Re: Quick Settings

I gave credit accordingly. Plus, wowthatisrandom did it and gave it to me. HTC holds IP. I gave credit for the work (to you, chingy and wowthatisrandom), but it is NOT YOUR software.

Kernels are fair game, and I gave you credit. That said, notice I never put one in our official release? Kind of like you posting public betas without source.

http://git.ziggy471.com/ Wow, GPL violations again!

Hypocrite.

We leave because of policies with XDA, and retards like you jump in and try to start more crap.

zztest-MECHA-CFS-35-062511-2041.zip

Here. In case you think I pulled it from Synergy. Could you be any dumber?

http://www.multiupload.com/UYD9K4O18X

Now it would be a kang, had I not given credit, and called the kernel my own. My bad for using a nice piece of work that someone posted in Virus's thread.

What a joke.
[Thunderbolt General] RootandBoot:
Are you getting your troll on?
[Thunderbolt General] kriskmk:
I forgive you for not reading further since you used your hand held cellular communications device to browse and respond.
[Thunderbolt General] Virus:
no i was sayign i like the theme is that a problem