yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] droid_does:
YouTube.com/my_speed

There will be s graph and a link/box underneath

Click and the video will appear

Set to 720p in the player and look at the fps box in the top left

Sent from my semi de-blurred atrix forged on Mt Olympus
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Jamesyboy:
Wow. I'm not very experienced when it comes to android (received my transformer 3-4 days ago. B70. Is it possible that the stock flash apk is un-optimized/bugged?

It doesn't seem that the [op] did anything uber-special here.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] naturecannon:
WOW, Devs going out of there way to build and share roms, spend hours upon hours tweaking for us, troubleshooting and helping others with issues and you see "nothing uber-special here"?? Not to mention speaking up to criticize when you have 4 posts total??

Sorry Mods: Please Delete when seen. I mostly lurk XDA, own a forum of my own, Admin another and know this is offtopic but.......... disrespect like this deserves the ban hammer. He will see uber-special when he cant view forum anymore!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Relax. You've totally misunderstood his post. He is referring not to the work of any dev, but to the post by the OP in this thread who claimed to have fixed a problem with flash by an obscure procedure that has been debunked dozens of times in this very thread. (The "fix" referred to here does nothing that simply flushing the cache doesn't do, and this thread should have been closed ages ago rather than leaving it for people to find and mistakenly believe to provide a real fix.)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Jamesyboy:
I've installed the hulufied flash apk, but can't find it via the normal methods to install. Am i missing something?

Edit: I apologize, this post may be deleted. I missed a comment saying a user uninstalled it via Manage Applications.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Jamesyboy:
That's not what i meant, nor do i think that i implied it.

I meant that the fix was simple, and super easy. My post was meant to point a finger at ASUS--and the fact that if the OP found the problem, they should be ashamed that they didn't:

A) Find it.

B) If they did find it, it should be hot-patched.

I very much appreciate the post Canadoc. Thanks for sharing. I promise to reciprocate.

Edit: I thought i might add...I joined June, 2010. And while my post count was/is low, it's that way out of respect for users. I didn't post because i didn't own any android devices. I got my first one (my Transformer) less than a week ago--and that's when i started posting. I myself would take any comments from a user who doesn't actually use a device that runs the operating system with a grain of salt. However, now, i can contribute =D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bedoig:
That makes absolutely no sense. Maybe something changed on the back end. Or maybe Adobe updated Flash recently. Has anyone tried the test recently without doing any of this?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
Oops sorry, also this isn't speed thing I'm thinking of. I was seeing peeps talking about some video test that shows the fps you are getting while watching a 720P video and wether it's using hardware or software decoding.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] italia0101:
yea that's it, go to the bottom and click show test video
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Canadoc:
at bottom of my speed there is option to play a video. when you do then choose the resolution. At first it will be slow but after about 5 seconds it ramps up and stays at over 30 fps. for me it works in stock browser maxthon browser, dolphin. bt not in opera. I think this is beause opera uses different ethod of hardware acceleration.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
Ah gotcha, sweet I'm getting mostly 30-35fps @ 720P w/ some drops to 20ish here and there, used to be like 5fps if I was luckly, rocks!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jambo89liam:
is anyone getting these improvments with the stock browser? i only seem to be getting them with dolphon hd. Tried a reboot but no luck.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
Yes after I reboot it works in stock browser now.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] italia0101:
lol doesn't for me, tried 20 restarts, nd nothing..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
Sux yo, what I did exactly was this:

1) Uninstalled flash from the Market

2) Installed that Hulu - 7 apk

3) Uninstalled flash from the Market

4) Reinstalled flash from the Market

5) Restart TF
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
I wonder if there wasn't simply a corrupted file somewhere that an uninstall of Flash or install of a new version or reinstall of the market version or whatever got rid of. Whatever it is, it's working now, so I'm happy.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Nutsonfire:
To me it could make sense in the way that Adobe have to validate devices to allow hardware accelerated flash playback. I could imagine the Hulu hack modifies some files that make flash think that it's running on another device which is validated by Adobe and thus hardware acceleration is activated.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sontin:
Trx Dolphin HD. Its working for me here but not in the standard browser...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] RobH79:
i think this is working for me, but with the YouTube speed test at 720p I get 30fps at start, then when guy starts talking it drops but then when he starts presentation it goes back up and stays at 30fps. testing other YouTube 720p trailers it is definatly smoother but not 100%. Also on the YouTube testing it says it is software decoding, should I be seeing hardware decoding?? Can some people post screenshots as lots of people have asked this same question but no answer. Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer General] GwynBleidd:
holy crap, it works. 32 fps test video in fullscreen on stock browser in 720p.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] caveman999:
This didnt work for me. I followed all the instructions with the reboots. Maybe the problem is that I'm not rooted. It's possible that for the hulu version to change a file to make adobe think it should be hardware accelerated, you need to be rooted.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
I just tried the test without doing anything from the original post in this thread.

My result using the stock browser and stock Flash: When set to 720p, the first few seconds showed low frame rates, but after that I watched for several minutes and got a steady 28-32 frames per second (mostly 30 or 31 frames per second), with just occasional (once every 10-15 seconds) blips as high as 36 frames per second, or as low as 21 frames per second. Never exceeded either of those thresholds after the first few seconds of the video.

Are people here claiming a completely steady 30fps, or are they still seeing similar blips? If the latter, then there's no change at all. If the former, I'd love to see somebody record a video showing this.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mllk:
this seems to work for me well.

works great on hbogo website.

before, when its on HQ, the video would lag like crazy.

now, it starts out at low quality, it'll kick into HQ, lags first few minutes and it plays fine. although, at times, it would switch to low quality and then back to HQ.

but overall, much improvement.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
Flash 720p works smoother than video player playing 720p video...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] fabsn:
I just tried the test video without this fix and I did get ~30fps (youtube test vid @720p)!

There must have been some background changest we don't know of. Maybe adobe remotely updated the flash app like facebook did a couple of days back.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
That's two confirmations, as I posted much the same experience. I think it's pretty clear this thread is placebo.

I'm personally wondering if Adobe made a fix when the last "security" update for flash was released a week or two back.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] italia0101:
Yea I'm not rooted also, not sure why it works on dolphin and nit browser for me, IV tried everything
[Eee Pad Transformer General] acomiskey:
Hbogo still drags for me...unwatchable. wtf
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sontin:
Delwtw data and cache of the browser. after this it should work.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] italia0101:
tried it, it didn't.. lol
[Eee Pad Transformer General] liput_81:
I also got 30fps before doing anything with flash. placebo here...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] italia0101:
scratch that its working now, !
[Eee Pad Transformer General] arcglide:
I wish adobe would get this sorted.. :mad: :mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Matterhorn:
I have it working on Dolphin and the stock browser. I can't seem to get Hulu to work though. Previously with the old flash.apk I was able to get Hulu working, then after a reboot it would break. This time it just doesn't work at all. Am I missing a step? Stock 3.1 not rooted.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thering1975:
I ran this test a few weeks ago and was circling 10fps mark.

So i reran it just now and was still getting 10fps, however i did the following:

1.force stop browser

2. clear cache and data

3. started browser again and ran test again and now stable at 31fps

note this is on stock browser on prime 1.4 with clemsyn 16 kernel

i did not install or uninstall flash the same version is still on the tablet
[Eee Pad Transformer General] CarsnGadgets:
Just tried this 'Fix', I am not sure what my flash performance was before hand, but it never really felt too slow, except with 1020p movies of course.

After doing the fix, I tried the Youtube speed test movie mentioned in this thread.

I am now getting 29-32fps with the movie set at 720p (it doesnt have a 1020p option) So I am pretty happy with that.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zSjrYFvq6E8k_YUsWlw44UEdRO0SO5BWOC5nYx1ryHI?feat=directlink
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
Keep seeing peeps stating they never had slowness on 720P vids in browsers before, funny, reminds me of all the peeps coming out stating they never had their dock battery drain too. I'm pretty sure everybody's TF didn't play 720P videos at more than like 5-10fps before this wierd fix today, in a browser anyway I mean...I've played 720P+ videos in video players like Mobo Player and Youtube app just fine before but in the browser, this was broken for everybody till today.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Looks like you could be onto something here. Corrupted or bloated cache coming into play, perhaps?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
And I'm pretty sure you're wrong, because I haven't applied this "weird fix", or even reinstalled Flash, or for that matter, even cleared my browser cache, and yet I get a reasonably steady 30 fps. And I don't watch YouTube videos in the built-in app, I watch them in the stock browser, on a stock tablet, using stock flash.

Like it or not, there are people who have no problems *before* this "fix".

My guess is a recent poster hit the nail on the head when he resolved his own problems by force-stopping and clearing cache. That's likely all this fix is doing -- causing cache to be rebuilt and fixing corrupted cache.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
Seems to work but still shows sofware video rendering. Also should we get the update after the install of the market version?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
Hardware or software

Are you guys doing this to get hardware decoding ??

Because I haven't applied the fix and get a steady 30+

But it is software decoding, would love hardware decoding :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
I'm getting 30+ and applied this weird fix but still still says software decoding for the youtube/my_speed test. Vimeo videos still are choppy at 720p.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bedoig:
I think you guys are right. There was probably a Flash update that fixed this a while back, but due something being cached most people didn't start seeing the result until they started uninstalling, reinstalling, etc.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
Can you post a screen shot that it's running hardware decoding?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thering1975:
Most likely, just wanted to check the basics first before applying the "fix" easier to test the obvious before proceeding with any remedial action
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
I don't think so just for the fact that whenever a new version of Flash was posted to market I uninstalled the old one and installed the new one, never did just an upgrade and I doubt they pushed out some compoletely silent update to Flash.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] caveman999:
I don't think this is the case. I tried force stopping the browser then wiped the cache, but this had no effect on flash videos in the browser. I didn't clear the browser data because I didn't want to lose bookmarks, but I don't think this would have any effect either.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
This is not a fix. Only the youtube.com/my_speed video seems to get better FPS. Vimeo videos in 720p are still crap.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sontin:
Do have a video? Because i have no problem with 720p flash videos. Even the videos from gamestar.de working great.

And don't forget: Tegra2 has limitations.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thering1975:
I guess everyones set ups are diff, however your right on bookmarks the tf failed to sync all of my bm despite reboots etc lol, only just got them all back
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
No, because it's not -- and it isn't for the people who've jumped through the hoops described in this thread, either.

It's software decoding, but at a fairly steady 30 fps for 720p.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
I'd have done the same. Heck, I did the same -- I just didn't have an issue to start with, so there was nothing for me to fix.

Then why do some people (myself included) have 30 fps playback without reinstalling or even clearing cache?

Occam's razor. The explanation that makes the fewest new assumptions is probably right.

It's easier to presume that folks simply didn't notice the last Flash security update fixed the problem (perhaps with a need for a cache clear for some folks), than it is to try and come up with some reasoning how folks like me could've managed to have no problem in the first place.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
http://vimeo.com/9744624
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
If you didn't perform all the steps the other chap did, then all you've done is rule out some points that weren't responsible for fixing the problem. Seems to me you've maybe suggested that clearing browser data is the fix, if anything.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
Play this video and tell me it's fairly steady. http://vimeo.com/9744624
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
That's likely down to Vimeo's encoding. 720p videos on YouTube play perfectly smoothly for me, and not just the test video.

For example, this video is perfectly smooth, set to 720p and played in the stock browser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ry4cx6HfY

(Just a completely randomly chosen HD video on YouTube.)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thering1975:
Just watched this (great footage for test) and get a very quick stutter once or twice in the first 30 secs after that it streams and plays ok
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Mr Paul:
Err sorry guys but I get 30fps on stock browser using the stock flash......

I don't need to use any hulu stuff or whatever, seems you all wasted your time ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Interesting, you just prompted me to try it again. With HD active, it's perfectly smooth for me fullscreen, but not when played inlined in the Vimeo page.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
Yeah I noticed that too. BUt you do not notice a few frames being dropped throughout the video? I'm comparing with a pretty high end PC though and can really tell the difference in terms of smoothness.

Also Facebook HD videos are really really choppy for me.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] chatch15117:
same here, plays wonderfully even in fullscreen
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
Vimeo

I had no problem playing the Vimeo link...

Had 2-3 very small stutters and the rest was played fluently..

Is there really no way to utilize hardware decoding ?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
When set to full screen on both tablet and PC, the Vimeo link plays near-identically on both for me.

And yes, my PC is plenty powerful. Here's my specs from another forum:

Asus Sabertooth X58 | Intel Core i7-950 @ 3.06GHz | EVGA GTX470 SuperClocked 1280MB | 12GB (3X4GB) Mushkin Silverline DDR3-1333 | OCZ Agility 2 120GB SSD | Samsung SpinPoint 2TB 5400RPM HDD | Seagate Momentus 500GB 7200RPM HDD | Lite-On iHas424-98 LightScribe 24x DVD burner | Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced case | Cooler Master Hyper 212+ CPU fan | Corsair HX650 PSU | Dell U2410 24" 1,920 x 1,200 wide-gamut IPS LCD | Creative Gigaworks T40 Series II speakers | Logitech K800 wireless keyboard | Logitech Performance MX darkfield mouse | Logitech WingMan Cordless RumblePad controller
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
You're making an excuse. All websites using flash should play 720p video smooth. I can throw many different HD flash videos from various websites on a PC and the PC doesn't have a problem.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] lordgodgeneral:
I saw this thread so popped over to youtube, on both dolphin and stock browsers, after about 20-30 secs, was setting pretty solidly at 30 fps on 720p. Didn't use the hulu apk, didn't clear any cache, (Haven't done that since I installed Prime 1.5). It is showing software decoding, not hardware, but seems to run great so far. My guess is the new flash version. But never really checked into this before now, so can't really say what I was running before.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thering1975:
Agreed just ran it on my pc and interestingly apart from one very fast stutter in the same place as on the tf the rest was fine, but in fairness the tf would never hope to live up to the speeds of the core i5 2500k. So i think it handled it extremely well for the limited power it has, however im not too hung up on it to be honest as i very rarely visit flash video websites, and the ones i may accidentally come accross only have average quality videos any way lol cough cough
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sontin:
Yeah, but the Transformer is not a pc. The video decoder of Tegra2 has a few limitations (1080p only baseline, not to high bitrate, not to much b-frames etc.). The vimeo video is to much for tegra 2. Even at 1500Mhz i get a lot of stuttering because the cpu is running nearly 100%.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
No, I'm not making an excuse. It's possible to encode a video poorly.

However, as I have said since, I realized it's only jerky when played inline. When played full-screen, it's pretty much as smooth as my extremely powerful desktop PC.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] chatch15117:
You're doing something wrong... the vimeo videos play fine for me and others here. Embedded & fullscreen.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thering1975:
yep fullscreen it does well, however bring the controls up or inline and it struggles, so its def being maxed out, if its software decoded its doing well and shows what may be achieved if or when hardware acceleration is activated.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sontin:
Watched it a second time and didn't have a problem. So looks like the buffering could be an issue.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
What about Facebook videos?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] darkonex:
Pics or it didn't happen
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
How many ways is there to watch flash videos? WHen I set the browser to tablet it's no longer flash as I launched it using the stock video player and I can notice it very much smoother. But it's no longer in HD. When set to Desktop I can play it but not nearly as smooth. I'm guessing about 300 frames lost the entire video Which is about equivent to 10 secs. I've used the stock browser and Dolphin and always get's similar results.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Go back a few pages in this thread. I posted a screenshot showing my Transformer doing 31fps, and it's stock, and I didn't jump through the hoops listed in this thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Clear your cache and app data (back up your bookmarks etc.), restart your tablet, try again. Or take a look at what else you've got installed on your tablet that's running all the time.

It works perfectly smoothly for others -- I see no appreciable difference in dropped frames in HD mode on Vimeo, when running full screen in the stock Android browser set to Desktop user agent, and in Windows 7 on a Core i7-950 with 12GB of RAM and an overclocked Nvidia GTX 470 with 1280MB of RAM.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] liput_81:
How is iplayer HD for you?

YouTube is fine from me but iplayer is rubbish
[Eee Pad Transformer General] david84us:
Weird, i did do this fix, but i ran that video test, and it ran steady from 25-31 fps.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Digiguest:
You ARE kidding right? :eek:

Will try this out later and report back. So far though I am not having any issues with the flash that I have now...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sbliner:
I too am getting good results in full screen..but lags like prior in embedded mode.

Interestingly..when I first start playing videos in HD (both youtube and vimeo) I get a "This video is not optimized for Mobile"

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Will try rebooting again (which I already did this morning) and other browsers.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] degeneration:
So I just got my second transformer and did the speed test at 720 and get 30ish fps full screen. When I change between landscape and portrait it drops to 10 for a moment and then back up to 30. Checked about tablet and guess they are shipping with 3.1 now and must have fixed it? That or my device is magic...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Jo...:
They haven't fixed it, my Transformer shipped with 3.1 too, but I'm unable to play HD flash, I'm getting like 4FPS max.

But I'm really wondering why it's working on some devices, and on some not. I tried all methods, but none of them worked.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Cerfer5:
This is fantastic. Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Canadoc:
played it and except for one slight stutter at the beginning it was fine though there must be something wrong as people are walking backward and the image is all snowy. LOL
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Taknarosh:
Just wanted to post that I was about to apply the fix described in the OP but to my surprise 720p was working fine on YouTube videos before even applying the fix... odd
[Eee Pad Transformer General] pmnuon:
http://www.vevo.com/watch/eminem/space-bound/USUV71100237

This video use to lag like crazy for me. Now its smooth and more importantly no pixelation.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] unknown_owner:
I had to actually clear data for it to work. I didn't want to but the reboots weren't working for me.

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] pmnuon:
using brdizzles hulufied flash 10.3.185.22, getting smooth 720p playback. Wasn't getting b4. Loving this.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
How did you clear data for the stock browser? I do not see "Browser" under settings>Applications.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] unknown_owner:
Go to All tab

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[Eee Pad Transformer General] thaddyusmaximus:
Cool Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer General] EMINENT1:
Vimeo and youtube test vid was smooth.

However, this youtube Avenged Sevenfold vid started playing fine and then froze while audio kept going. This was after changing to 720p. I am stock 3.1 on Dolphin and desktop userstring.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bitbitbit:
Here is what I did:

1) uninstall flash from market and reinstall immediately without installing the hulu flash. This made no difference to the frame rate.

2) force stop browser and cleared cache (not data). Frame rate went up without requiring a reboot.