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[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
I publish a lot of corporate communication. You really need to parse HTC's statement.

The global Sensation will be updated in August. Followed by S4G and E3D. That doesn't mean the S4G and E3D will be in August and I'm guessing the exact time frame is still controlled by T-Mobile and Sprint. They would have said global, S4G, E3D will all be updated in August if that's what they meant.

We expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. A nice way of saying devices they control will be updated in early September and that they aren't responsible if some carrier devices haven't received the update.

I'm not trying to piss in anyone's Cheerios, but like I said, I author a lot of this type of crap and words are chosen very carefully. It's not to say that HTC, T-Mobile, and Sprint aren't going to work their butts off to get all the phones done by early September but that statement leaves a lot of wiggle room. It also shifts blame away from HTC and to the carriers if in fact the date slips. If you think about it, based on the way the statement is worded, HTC could easily say "we never said the S4G and E3D were going to be updated in August." Crafty, aren't they?
[HTC Sensation] ~~Tito~~:
Oh yeah I took that into consideration. You never know though, HTC might be talking to the carriers during this month to make sure things go smoothly so people aren't pissed when the time comes. Along with "testing" the easy solution for their newly encrypted bootloaders. Either way, its coming and I am sure its not going to be late into october, HTC will get flamed.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
You actually have to give HTC props. They took a lot of risk pissing off the carriers by publishing time frames. Typically nothing would be said until everyone was positioned and ready to make a statement. They kind of drew a line in the sand for the carriers by announcing a date that it could be done making it the carriers fault if they don't apply the resources to actually hit the date. If you think about it, the carriers are really HTC's biggest customers. For them to do this means they really do care about their reputation and the end users. It'll be interesting to watch this unfold.
[HTC Sensation] ~~Tito~~:
Oh yeah, I have my pop corn ready. What I know will happen is Sprint will embrace it, and T-Mobile will do nothing (as they did with the G2x). I give HTC major props, now they are on a thinline lol, so its tough since one false move on their part or slower release on them will make things seem really really bad.
[HTC Sensation] antdizzo:
do you seriously think it matters after they release the first update to ANY sensation device? if its for the global, 4g, or maybe even the evo 3d, the devs here on xda will have the key to unlock any of these phones once the as soon as they get their hands on that first update.
[HTC Sensation] Artur_q77:
Very nice!
[HTC Sensation] ~~Tito~~:
They aren't giving the key, they are changing the locks and giving us fastboot OEM unlock. The only thing we can do is flash an RUU that isn't specific to the T-Mobile version and hope that we don't brick. Since we have CID lock, that wont happen and we might have to wait till our turn.
[HTC Sensation] Damonkashu:
I can't wait until this comes, going to love seeing the custom ROM's devs will pull up!
[HTC Sensation] jolaren:
Gaah, should have looked this through before buying. It's supposed to come to the postal service today but without custom roms I might support a company that makes it happend or just get the nexus s. I feel really sad, such a useless phone

And as we all know, august equals december in htc terms

Edit; I haven't unboxed yet, should I spare myself the months of frustration by buying the galaxy s2 or preferably a equal phone with search button. Cuz atm I would not even be able to use brut maps
[HTC Sensation] tenbeau:
I am on my 5th Sensation and it rebooted itself out of the box along with having other issues.. If I had the option at the moment to obtain a SGSII I would return this current phone(still in buyers remorse) and purchase the SGSII IMMEDIATELY. I seriously doubt there will be an unlocked bootloader before sometime in Dec of 2011 if not Dec of 2012 and with all of the issues with the Sensation that is just unreasonable to me to wait for an update and unlocked bootloader. The.Sensation has tremendous potential but for me in day to day usage it just fosters frustration and issues that seem to be continually arising.
[HTC Sensation] Android_Guy:
I emailed them to ***** about it and this was the same reply i had gotten, word for word! :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] Hoggles:
Forgive me chimming in here, but....ya gotta admit, that is some horrible luck when it comes to a phone. Whew....

Obviously you're in a very small minority of people with that amount of bad phone luck. This phone is amazing and the unlocked loader coming in September is right around the corner.

Every phone has problems....take a looksy at the GSII forum....

I would recommend ya ditch the S4G with that track record ;)
[HTC Sensation] Hoggles:
This is a joke right? Did somebody fool you into thinking the Sensation was anything it isn't? I knew it had a locked bootloader when I bought it. In fact there has never been any promise when the Sensation came out, when or if it would get unlocked.

People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

HTC didn't force anyone to buy it. They haven't lied about anything.

Sorry....just not a big fan of "HTC screwed me somehow" posts.

YES. Spare yourself the drama of horrible life the next few months and get rid of your Sensation.

Good

Golly Miss Molly....
[HTC Sensation] greengoldmello:
Quoted for truth.
[HTC Sensation] johnson8cyl:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/07/11/htc-offers-unlocked-bootloaders-starting-in-august/
[HTC Sensation] phantoms2k:
Patiently waiting... as long as HTC is keeping us informed, I am a happy handset junkie ;) By all indications, in a few weeks, our Sensations will be fully unlocked, dual-core juggernauts! Works for me ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] dxtyle:
I work on radioshack ansia today I noticed this.. check the pic it looks the 69.99 plan does not have unlimited 4g, or at least is not stated like the 89.99 plan

Sent from my 3vo
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
It's a mandatory $10 add-on for the $69 plan with smartphones. It's included in the $89 plan.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
Geeze these plans are getting expensive.....but i guess that's what you pay for unlimited data plans.....
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
4g has always been unlimited
[HTC EVO 3D] mvansomeren:
That "450" represents the number of phone call minutes to landlines as sprint lets you call other mobiles regardless of network at no charge.
[HTC EVO 3D] dxtyle:
I understand all u said but with the 89.99 plan the 10 US premium data is still required.. but what calls ny attention is the label for unlimited 4G that plan has and the other one doesn't
[HTC EVO 3D] dxtyle:
Looks like they fix it

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[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeszekely:
For the first month I've had my Thunderbolt, I haven't really had any issues. Stock ROM, no updates. I have my screen set at about 25-30% brightness, email and Twitter sync manually, weather update every 3 hours. Bluetooth and GPS off, wifi off, 4G on. I'd take it off the charger when I'd wake up, and put it on the charger at night with around 30-40% of my battery left, depending on my usage that day.

Lately, though, I've been getting some mysterious battery discharge. Like today, I took the phone off the charger when I got up. I worked today, so I checked my email and Twitter on my breaks, and did a little reading with Aldiko during my lunch. I played no games, and the only web browsing I did was to check out the Steam deals for the day. When I got home, I put my phone on my desk and didn't touch it all evening. At around 10:00 (about 13 hours since coming off the charger), it beeped that it was down to 15%, down from 60% when I left work. This would be something like a 45% change in a little under 4:00 hours with me not even touching it. I checked About Phone > Battery, and the thing that's listed as using the most battery is Display followed by Cell Standby. The phone itself was warm, but only enough that you'd notice it if you were thinking to check if it was warmer than it ought to be for sitting my my desk all evening.

Is anyone else experiencing anything like this? The phone definitely didn't used to do this, and only started in maybe the last week or two.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambient711:
Have you noticed poor cell connection anywhere?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McLabia:
Facebook live feed, htc sense hub and google music beta have been eating batteries as of late. They just don't stop trying to sync. Turn these off and you should see normal battery drain again.

Sent from my rooted, Dark Horse INFECTED Synergy bolt running Ziggys kernel.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeszekely:
I used to try to kill Facebook, but it and Flickr seem to auto-restart, so I quit. I don't use either (and may in fact be the only person on earth without a Facebook account), so I don't think they're the culprit.

I looked at my running apps and services, and didn't see HTC Sense Hub. And I don't have Google Music at all.

Whenever I visit my parents, they're down in this valley and signal goes to 1x. I also drop to 3G when I visit one of my friends who lives in a more rural area.

Where I live and where I work, though, I have great 4G reception, which is why I don't bother to toggle it off. And since I didn't go anywhere besides home and work, I should have had good signal. Every time I looked at it, I had 4G.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McLabia:
Have you given any thought to rooting? It would offer a lot more control over your phone. Theres a nice app called Watch Dog that would help you nail down the issue.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeszekely:
Yeah, I've thought about it, but I wanted to wait until after the Gingerbread update.

...which I thought we'd have by now.:(

Speaking of updated, I downloaded the July 8th update. We'll see if that helps.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McLabia:
I have GB+Sense 3.0. Why wait for the update? If the OTA's are proof of anything, nothings ever going to be 100%, but there are a lot of good choices. Im partial to Virus' work, or if I were to use something else it would be Droid Theory's ROM or CM7.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
So I was wondering if turning LTE off helps on battery life, I get about the same as the EVO on 3G only on my thunderbolt , so I was wondering.if doing that will actually saved some battery life ?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Transistor:
yes it should help. Use LTE onOff app.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
Mm ok for some reason 3G download speeds aren't the good but upload speeds are good, I think is weird

Well at least I have 4G for the most part

Last two were LTE as you can tell
[General Topics] Heuser1:
Hey everyone

I just set-up my google+ acct and am trying to figure things out. I finally found the App for this, but it would not let me download it as I am currently living outside of the US. Does anyone know how i can go about downloading this app? hiding my IP or something?

All the help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
[General Topics] ElevateMusic:
dude, you shouldn't have to? unless this is outdated idk what your issue is cause I'm in Canada and it let me in no problem. Try again? Maybe unsupported device...
[General Topics] Heuser1:
How did you find the App in the first place? I couldn't find it in the android app store from my Samsung Infuse so I typed it into google from the phone and came across it and that is where I had trouble... Any ideas? Thanks again!
[General Topics] ElevateMusic:
all i did was search it in the marketplace??

somethin's up, what phones do you have??

Mine: LG Optimus One P500h
[General Topics] orb3000:
We published in the Portal an article about non US members installing G+

Have a read
[General Topics] lukitas12:
i used this app but found it pretty bad. don't recommend it
[General Topics] dheeraj.one:
the app is for android 2.1+

it is working very smooth on my phone

liked it

it does take time to get used to though
[General Topics] Heuser1:
Thanks for the help everyone! The app seems to be working great, just not getting and notifications pushed... Anyone know how to get that working? Thanks again.
[General Topics] jsm927:
I also cannot get it to download/install on my phone. I get a package file error. Im on an EVO was wondering if it had to do with the ROM Im running or if anyone else was having the problem.
[General Topics] Heuser1:
Maybe try using the app that was referred to me above by Orb. I'm running it on my Infuse with Infused Rom, not problems thus far minus not getting pushed notifications at the moment.
[EVO 4G General] CruzECO13:
Update on Bootloaders

https://twitter.com/#!/htc/status/90239767287037952

by HTC on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at 7:50pm

Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.

**UPDATE**

We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR

**UPDATE 7/10**

We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.

We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.

HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
I hope that is all true but I wont hold my breath...
[EVO 4G General] lil_bono:
Software updates? Sounds like some strings are attached... I can't say that I'm surprised, with carriers charging for locked services like tethering. I personally do not use tethering or condone anything unethical (which could be interpreted as charging for tethering!). I just hope this is true so that I can develop without having to search for root, or buy a $400 Nexus.

Anyone else getting the feeling that this will take some of the fun out flashing?
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
They've got until October. If they haven't shown they are ready to provide an experience that "gets me" then.. then... something. Hopefully some great white whale of handset freedom will be available.
[EVO 4G General] LCL22:
meh.....seems like a PR move more than anything , they ARE getting a lot of negative feedback from people, not to mention, this latest gingerbread release backfired on them...they tried to lock down devices , but seeing how bad the release went for a lot of EVo owners wich actually made people that have never rooted a phone , look to root theirs because they hate gingerbread unstability

personally, i wont hold my breath, and i doubt ill upgrade to the 3d.......september??? gimme a fkn' break!
[EVO 4G General] JackieBrown:
Will unlocking the evo 3d effect the evo 4g or is that something we will have to wait for time to tell?
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
That depends entirely on the root method...ie where the find the exploit. If it is gingerbread, itself, then it should work for us. If it is in some other place, like sense 3.0, then it wouldn't help us.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
PS

I gotcher white whale right here, buddy...
[EVO 4G General] cwbristow@cox.net:
Notice the HTC statement does NOT address the Evo4G.

This could be the marketing strategy of future.

Release new phones with unlocked bootloaders,

OTA legacy phones to lock bootloader,

'you want root access, buy new phone'

scary thought...
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Scary, but not absurd.

You don't think Sprint changing the policy on Premier users wasn't 100% about selling new phones or collecting more per month?? All in all, it was about boosting revenue collection.

I hope for you guys something is out by October, and look at it this way; I ran my Moment 100% Stock for 6 months before I even researched rooting. It wasn't so bad....

...'course, I'd never do THAT again!
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
HTC will never unlock the bootloader on the EVO. Thats why we need someone to root what we have now.
[EVO 4G General] detcup4evr:
They will release unlocked boat loaders as maintenance releases, Evo won't be unlocked by HTC, I don't believe the EVo will get any more attention from HTC. They have moved on from it.
[EVO 4G General] jessejames111981:
his bootloader information is geared to the sensation and 3d. So why is this thread in the evo 4g section
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Now now, we don't know that's true.
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
Of course, theres no proof... But it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know its all about money. QUOTE=mattykinsx;15586217]Now now, we don't know that's true.[/QUOTE]
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't understand how NOT unlocking the bootloader would be money related?

The Evo is easily the top selling HTC phone ever and the third most selling phone in 2010.

It's in HTC's interest to make sure it's open for the millions that bought it.
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
It makes no sense to unlock the bootloader of a phone thats very near its eol, when not doing so will make people go to the newer unlocked devices. Thats how its about money. If they do unlock the bootloader on the evo it wont be til a while after the 3d and sensation get unlocked.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
But the Evo is the face of HTC now.

In fact, every phone since has been based on the design.

It's still the flagship as far as sales for HTC.
[EVO 4G General] CDKJudoka:
Just so you guys are aware, HTC will be releasing the unlocked bootloader as a software update to the newer crop of phones. The big problem is that the software has to go through the carriers BEFORE it will be released to the public.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/10/htc-rolling-out-unlocked-bootloaders-to-select-phones-in-august/
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sprint won't have a problem, T-mobile might not have a problem.

At&t and Verizon customers are F-ed in the A.

But then again, they're used to that aren't they? ;)
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
Htc has never even mentioned unlocking the evo bootloader. I dont know why people include it in the conversation.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
However, the Evo was locked via an update.

After HTC said they would not lock bootloaders anymore.

And, as I've stated, the Evo is the flagship device.

It'll get unlocked.
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
When was the evo bootloader not locked? As far as i knew its always been locked.
[EVO 4G General] ahneg:
That article deals with the global sensation(not the evo4g), sensation4g on T-Mobile(not the evo4g), and the EVO 3D(do I really have to say it again?)

The rest of us will have to wait until they decide to "continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments."

Which could be never.....ugh
[EVO 4G General] Agent Droid:
Froyo was hacked but those who got Evo`s with 2.3.3 do not have ability to root.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I have no direct evidence that the new bootloaders for the Evo will be unlocked.

Just logic and good business sense to support my belief.

You don't promise something and then not do it on your most popular phone in company history.
[EVO 4G General] lcpl:
Found this on facebook about bootloaders didnt see it post

http://www.facebook.com/HTC?sk=wall&filter=2

HTC

Devs, we’re making lots of progress on unlocking bootloaders: Today we can confirm the HTC Sensation and HTC EVO 3D will be supported! See out note for more info:

Update on Bootloaders

Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will prov...

See More

By: HTC

Sunday at 7:04pm · Like · Comment
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
Its NOT the bootloader thats hurting them unlocking the 2.3.3 EVO4G's. That bootloader is locked but its locked int he same manner as every other EVO4G bootloader was, and not in the same manner the newer HTC phones are with the encryption.

The issue with the EVO4G being unlocked stems from being able to find a temp root exploit through 2.3.3 which at this point no one else has found for those running that version of sense. If they get root then itll get NAND-unlocked the same way it was with froyo with the ENG-Hboot. The issue is the holes used to get root are patched in the 2.3.3 OS so they just need to find that exploit.

EDIT:

removed dumb comment lol
[EVO 4G General] LCL22:
this is NOT the evo 3d section bud...
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
This is the 4G section. Not the 3D...
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
haha my bad fellas. too much time spent going between both sections got mixed up. lol
[EVO 4G General] mikeyinid:
No worries man, you made me have to double check myself :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
I'm having the hardest problems with my sgt usb drivers being install :mad:. I have windows 7 and every time I install them and re-boot and than plug in my tab nothing happens it all ways gives an error( Unknown device):confused: any help will be appreciated. YES I've look and search everywhere.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mughalgxt:
did installing/re-installing kies worked? Did you install android sdk? Running the sdk manager and install google usb driver package> samsung.

AND

try pasting the para into the inf file (under x86 for 32bit and x64 for 64bit system) in pathway:

C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver\android_winusb.inf

as

[Google.NTx86] // for 32 bit system or x64 for 64bit system

//start copying from here!

;Galaxy Tab 10.1v

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_04E8&PID_6860&REV_9999&MI_01

%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_04E8&PID_6860&MI_01

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_04E8&PID_6601

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0955&PID_7000

;

these three steps will install all possible drivers you will ever need!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dongabo:
If you mean to use with nvflash (APX) etc...

Grab the NVidia boot-recovery driver from here:

http://djmcnz.batteryboss.org/stuff/nvmobileboot.rar

Uninstall the driver from device manager, then update using this drivers.