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[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Nice one!

Sounds great, can you release any details yet? I decided to update TouchOSC to 1.2 and have a play about with the multitouch, got 1.1 backed up so could always revert back if I want. Been roaming about in the root of my phone but having limited knowledge there's only so much I can do, tho I am learning. It's now a race, when will hexler release version 1.3, a comment on the forum from Rob said that custom layouts will be in the next android version, and that's all I've really been waiting for. :D
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Well im in the forum too but he said... " There will be a version with custom layouts. It’s just no ready yet. Good things take time."

I know god things need time, but he takes so much time somethimes, for example the update from 1.1 to 1.2 tooks a lot and he change the apk to dont let us copy our custom layouts. Ok i understand that like a Dev you want to keep your apps safe but if i give you something to let you work till your next update could be better than have a very simple options.

Well this afternoon i will be trying to get labels working if i cant do it, at least we have customized layout lol. Wish me luck!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Good Luck, we wait in anticipation. :D
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
Best of luck for trying out the labels mate :) hope it works :)

Could you tell us how to get custom layouts working at least? Something is better than nothing :) I really need custom layouts so please put up a procedure or how to add custom layouts. Thanks mate :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dankjavis:
I am highly frustrated, almost to the point of being pissed off at this guy over software, which i know is very silly, but we should try to get a price out of him and try to rally up some funds to get his ass in gear. Everybody has a price.

If that's not an option, how hard would it be for some small group of this army of android devs at xda to make a similar clone of this app from scratch? From reading the forums at his site, and some of the comments on here, there are more than enough people that would pay a legitimate amount of money for your efforts.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Lmao an army of xda devw lol. I almost piss myself reading that, calm down buddies i kow is frustating but when the time come i know we are gonna have something very cool and usefull well i promese tomorrow i will do a full tuto (maybe on video but my english really sucks lol) about how to get our customs layer on the app, im now with mine custom lol. But i was searching the way to have lqbels but no lucky :(

So... ok can you wait till tomorrow without start fire over my house? Lol. Greeting from MX.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Ye there's no point getting frustrated it gets ya nowhere, I've been waiting happily, well actually not been waiting at all been quite productive, it's got me back into coding well learning again, for that I'm quite glad. :-)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
Thanks a lot brother :) You are right, there is no point getting frustrated.

Please do the tutorial as soon as possible, video or text doesn't matter as long as it gets us the custom layouts :)

Be sure to post it here or the link to tthe tutorial here once you are done :)

Your effort is well appreciated :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimgeroul:
Hey guys.. any news?? Is there Any quick tip for doing this?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
The only way atm that I know to get custom layouts is to revert back to version 1.1 and use the one of the the previous tutorials mentioned in this thread but doing that you not have multitouch and the other new bits. :rolleyes:
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
hey guys, its been quite a long time and i realllyyyy need custom layouts. Since, intensus is working on a tutorial on how to get custom layouts on 1.2, can some one tell me step by step on how to get custom layouts on version 1.1 on an unrooted XOOM? Pleassseee it would be greatly appreciated. Im a total noob at all this :P

Thanks in advance :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
You have to root you phone first otherwise you can't use file explorer to get to the 'app_touchosc_layouts' folder, then do all this.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Ok so finally i got the tutorial, in two parts cause it's kinda step by step. And please excuse me for my bad english :( but i really was kinda nervous to give all the step in a way i can express myself. Hope understand it, and works for you!

Please don't forget to leave a comment, give a thanx o gift me a candy lol.

Greetings!

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P.S.1 - The video is on HD so you can view in fullscreen to see the names and actions.

P.S.2 - As i wrote in the description in the video, (the video is private, just people with the link can see it) and please don't copy the link to other forum, before ask my permission. (but IMHO i think if the Dev fro Hexler.net see the video, he will find the way to take of this new method to have our custom layouts, so please be carefull with the Tuto.

Youtube - TouchOSC v1.2 Custom Layouts working Tutorial - PART 1

Youtube - TouchOSC v1.2 Custom Layouts working Tutorial - PART 2
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
Does this method you showed in the tutorials require root??
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Well im root and i cant give you a 100% true answer, you can try installed not been root, to see the apk lets you. But in the market theres no "root needed" text.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defbond:
Thumbs up man !

I'd like to thank intensus for his wonderful tutorial which worked like a charm for me ! Now I need to make some brand new layouts for my Nook Color. :D

Anyway, are you making any progress with the labels ?

Oh, and I don't know if it's possible but it would be nice to have the new "encoder" control available on the IOS version. If you need some help, I may be able to help you a bit.

Cheers !
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Nice one brother :D

Intensus thank you very very much for making an excellent, well explained tutorial. I managed to follow the instructions through first time. :D

Peace :D
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimgeroul:
You are the best man! Thank you very much! This was really helpfull!

Just a TIP for Windows users:

Before making the pure data file with touchosc2pd remember to change the layout version to "8" from the index file:

<layout version="8"

Pure Data could not see any movement before changing the layout version.. i dont know why, it just works.. ;)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wurli:
Wow, thank you. It works.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
hey guys,

I have got the custom layouts working perfectly all thanks to intensus :)

Now I face just one issue, im running windows on my desktop, using touchosc (obviously) and pd-extended to control traktor pro 2. With this setup how do I get feedback to my Motorola XOOM from traktor? Like for example, if i move a fader in traktor with my mouse, the corresponding fader should move on my XOOM.

When i try to uuse midi input in pd-extended, it says midi input is dangerous for windows and closes after some time.

Please help me with this.

It would be ggreatly appreciated :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
I know the image is awfull but i just took it to make a quick answer to the Question. Inside the red Squeare you can see the thing you need to create to receive info from the pc to the Tablet.

and now the explication:

You need to create a "udpreceiver" for the port "8000", this is the default port configured in the tablet, then you need to "unpack" the info to be used for OSC (if you want you can set a "Print" box to see the values change in the PD console, but is up to you) then you create the "Pipelist" to get the info from the differents Tabpages. And finally connect to route again to tablet. Kinda confusing lol. but hope this works for you.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wooseph:
I can't seem to find the apk for touchosc anywhere. Could someone send me a link?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
the Android Market means something to you?

look for the apk there then here are the info you need to get custom layouts.

see ya
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wooseph:
The app downloads from the market, then installs itself and the .apk is deleted. I can't d/l it to my computer from the market
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Using ES file Explorer on my rooted phone in apk is located, local

/data/app ;)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wooseph:
Thanks for the help. My TF isn't rooted so I was trying to find another way to do it. I got someone to email me the .apk.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kife42:
i was trying intensus's way of using custom layouts, and it seemed ok up until a point. apparently the (current?) touchosc editor scrambles the page name and object names in the index.xml file. i think this is why i can't connect to puredata properly... does anyone else see this?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Did you read the post #46 in the page 5 aboht changing the number i the xml code before doing the pure data patch???

"... Before making the pure data file with touchosc2pd remember to change the layout version to "8" from the index file: <layout version="8"..."

Cause i have been doing some layouts for me and everything is ok, nothing is scrambled, just the name of the buttons are changed to base64 code, but you need to decode either in the video link to get the right names in the PD patch.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kife42:
names

i did the version 8 thing. scrambled meaning it's in base64. i looked in the video but didn't see anything about fixing the names in batch. problem is, if i have 20 or so objects, and making changes with the editor, i can't be fixing all the names every time i want to test it out...

as for why the developer is doing this... it's true android doesn't have the audio latency that iphones have, but this is more about data transfer so i'm not sure why he has a problem with it...
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
I didnt talk about change the base 64 names in the video, i just do a quick review of how to get custom layouts in the TouchOSC app.

To change the names, you need to o it one by one, or just use the names in base64 code to create the "connections" on pure data. Once you got the leads, you can connect anything and test it on the fly, don't need to change names every time to test.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
i was looking around in the Hexler forum and see many people asking to custom layouts i really feel kinda mad about dont have a way to do that build in the app, but either i feel bad for cant tell them how to do it, like i post it here. Cause i think if tell them this will spread like a plague and the Dev (who is not helping at all with the last update) will find another way to stop getting our custom layouts. What you think?

BTW i was thinking about if you need other video tutorial more explained to get a layout created in touchosc editor, export it get on the app, and then create the right PD* instead of use the touchosc pd generator.

*im not a master on it, but i learned the basics to create my own layouts, make it work and modify some other from the web.

Greetings.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Totally know what you mean, I've been reading these post's too on Hexler and feeling really sorry for those who can't get custom layouts, tho I did find this thread through Google after little searching. And was not gonna risk the Dev changing things again, but have kept original backup copies of apk's 1.1 and 1.2 to use if thing do change and a currant version of the Editor that doesn't seem to scramble anything

My Index file editing is going really well, I can get it finished pretty fast and encoded to Base64, and generally works first time, all thanks to you Intensus and a little from Jimgeroul with the <layout version="8" info :D

Tho today I noticed I had to change the DumpOSC number in PD from 8000 too 9000 to get it to connect otherwise the box it's in was red. O.o
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
is really nice to read that, feels like im doing the right things to help BTW i found this in the TouchOSC facebook...

‎-=[ Android Update ]=-

Please stop asking when there'll be a version for the Android OS supporting the TouchOSC Editor - I'm working on it.

Next update for Android will add support for the newly released TouchOSC Bridge and update all the included layouts with MIDI mappings. After that there'll be a version with full editor support and basically feature parity with the iOS version minus MIDI Mobilizer and CoreMIDI features which are inherently iOS-only.

I can't give you an ETA for all of this, Android is a mess to develop for and it's not exactly like flipping a switch and enabling the editor. TouchOSC has a lot of options and controls, and every single one of them has to be ported over - this obviously takes some time and a lot of testing. Which is the reason I released it as it is now, so you can use it while I finish the port.

Hope that answers most people's questions and lets me get back to actually working on it instead of wasting time explaining all of this over and over again.

i really sorry for what im gonna say but, i think hes too much rude with people. They have a big point, and that is that iPad has update after update, and androdid user need to "hack, twist, and overwrite" code to have at least layouts, that we have in the first update, but he change the code and the way the apk works to dont let the custom layouts be available, now we againg shearch the way to do it and i finally do it and share with this awesome forum. really dissapointed with this Dev.

Greeting everyone and thank to take some time to read me!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
I get that it takes time to code and test on the many Android builds and phones, but I thought the whole concept for Android OS is to be open source as much as possible, shared data and all that. You'd think that with the amount of people on the Hexler forum offering to help develop and test, that the Dev would take up on those offers, on saying that I messaged him regarding donating and he never replied, and I was wanting to give him money! Oh well. I'm happy being able to decompile, Edit and build then copy to my phone, (in basic terms) to get my own custom layouts, it's just a shame that the Dev seems to not really bother about Android seems that iOS is the easy option. I'm just really greatful of this forum and it's members :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Yes many user from his web, ask to give help, maybe compiling, programing and many options but he just want to be the one who "knows" everything about the apk. I got a bad feeling about the next update i think hes going to sell it but a high cost, using the excuse of custom layouts and other upgrades. Hope'i'm wrong but.., who knows...

Btw did you use the pd patch converter or you build your own patches? Cause im thinking in do a very basicvideo tutorialwith the little thinks i have been learned from my own layouts. What you think?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Generally I use the Patch generator then edit the patch to suit, but I don't really know PD that well just learning as I edit, if you know how to how to add faders and so on so that it looks like how it is in TouchOSC and the Editor but in PD that would be cool, I just really need to know what that's called then I can look it up. ;)

I'm also unable to get Notes to work in PD, I've got drum trigger pads on my Novation SL I wish to emulate in TouchOSC but as Notes instead of a CC number, if that makes sense. but the Patch generator seems to just miss them out completely. :confused:

Cheers dude :D
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Well the fader and other thing are kinda easy to star doing it and set it up, but for the Drum triggers convert to notes is not that hard, but i think you need more kinda triggers like Buttons and MIDI mapping in the app like Ableton. Cause if you want to generate a note it will be kinda confusing to change values with the Layout. But it can be done!

Just tell me if you want to tell you how to do it!

Cheers!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrgaz:
Sorry for my english.

I would say thank you to Intensus and Jimgeroul .

I have a Mediacom 810c tablet and touchosc works fine. the problem i have is install the apk with the custom layouts(i tryed several times in the last days with the Intensus method) .

I've tried to make the more simple custom layout but the tablet can't install the apk customized.

Maybe the problem is the hardware of my tablet???
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
if the problem is the installation, did you sign you application before install on your tablet? if is not signed you not be able to installed.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
hey guys,

All thanks to intensus I am enjoying my custom touchosc layout :) used it along with my standard kit at a friends party as well. It was perfect as a ssequencer and a stand alon 2 deck mixer as well. The only tthing that I still haven't figured out is how to get feedback to my Motorola XOOM. I read ththe post where it says to edit the pd file but i don't know much in pd and my layout when converted to pd is a MESS.

So if i upload my touchosc layout and pd file here, can someone please edit it so that i get feedback on my XOOM? Like if i move a fader with my mouse in traktor....it moves On my touchosc layout as well. I would be very thankful :)

Please tell me if anyone can do it, then I will upload it here. Thanks :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Yep it can be done, in fact i got feedback, but sometime for the latency and quick response i just shut off, i recommend just to send signal cause some times i gets too much laggy with feedback. But back to the question yesm feedback can be done, but it really takes a lot of time coding in PD to set the butons with feed back, and tracktor must be set it up to send feedback too.

Im planning the way to do a very quick video tutorial again to explain the little i know about PD patches, but please just give me some time to get things in order here.

hope understand, Cheers!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
Oh that's great :)

Yeah I can wait. I can set up traktor for feedback as im really good with traktor , but i dont kknow how to set it up in PD because it closes automatically when u use it for midi input and etc. I also tried midi loop program but it doesnt work. PD doesn't close, but it doesn't give feedback either.

I will wwait ffor your tutorial video on how to set up PD for feedback in traktor on windows :)

Cheers :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Svengem:
first big thanks to intensus for the osc 1.2 custom layout tutorial.

but...., is there a way to avoid to change the names for every button,

fader and knob in the index.xml file. this really bothers me because

i found a good layout with a lot of buttons and faders and i don´t

want to edit such an ammount of names in the xml file. it is also not

easy to locate the right button.

thanks in advance.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Well like this is not an "Official" method to get custom layouts, and the TouchOSC editor exports the names in Base64 code, i think there is no other way to change the names, just one by one. I know is a lot of work, but if the layout you create deserve its, take the time to do things correct.

In resume, until we got an update like, cusotm layouts, or a touchosc editor for android we are not be able to change the names with other "technique".

see ya!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Svengem:
thank you for the fast answer, you helped me a lot with your hint that the names are in Base64 code. Now another question, are there any news how to use labels in the osc custom layout?

thanks
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
in fact in my new tutorial im gonna talk about the names in code, and the basics i know to create a descent PD Patch to know if everything is working right and where can be the problems with malfuntions. Insteadjust creat Patch from the PD Patch Generator.

and nope, the labels are no supported yet i try plenty of method but nothing. Waiting for the next update... hopping don't have to find again how to have layouts.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Wassup people, i got news for you.

Rob (the dev of the apk TouchOSC) release a new update but dont get so excited no custom layouts yet. But a new interesting feature...

The MIDI BRIDGE look good to run faster on the set up for mapping and get controls working and get feedback on the tablet, yes you read right GET FEEDBACK (but the problem with the feedback is that some times make your device get laggy) or do some crazy things in the faders and knobs.

Im playing on with this new bridge feature looking for the real power in big layouts. BTW if you still want me to make the tutorial for PD patches, let me know here.

See ya!

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Here is the link to donwload the BRIDGE
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Hey dude Happy New Year, sorry I've not gotten back sooner but it's been a mad one :D

I found the faders, buttons so on in PD but I'm yet to try make my own one using them, been looking at Hexler's simple-midi.pd as an example, I will get it :)

As for the trigger pads on my Novation the Notes I wish to emulate in TouchOSC and PD are A-3, A#3, G#-3, G-3, C-2, C#-2 & B-3 all on Channel 1. so far had no luck, I can choose them in TouchOSC Editor but they end up missing in PD after it's generated. :confused:

Oh ye and I'm gonna give this new TouchOSC MIDI Bridge a try, maybe it might solve my problem.

Cheers :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dubt17:
For some reason I can't add custom layouts though the tutorial for 1.2. I have a custom 1.2, but editing 1.3 just gives me a black screen on my template. But I NEED the ability to receive midi back to my android!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Mm imho its not necesary cause when you are lot of time playing with the layout and conection the app gets laggy, but like i said thats just my opinion. I prefer have custom layouts instead of feedback. And you can have feedback in 1.2 creating a good Patch in pure data, without using the D patch generator.

Cheers
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dubt17:
Oh really? So I can get feedback in 1.2? That's great news! Sorry, I guess I need to spend more time tweaking it. But I am using osculator and a Mac :/
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearhead10:
Hey intensus,

Is there a way to add custom layouts in the new touchosc 1.3??

I tried the old way and it doesnt work :(

I really want feedback but i cant use without cutom layout as well :(

Can you find a way to put custom layouts on 1.3?

Are u making the tutorial for feedback in PD on touchosc 1.2 and windows?

Thanks :)

Cheers
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intensus:
Hello people, i know i owe you the tutorials for PD file but i was busy with a lot of work last weekends. I when i finally starts to prepare my materials, what a surprise that the ICS update is popping on my screen and its required, so i made the update everything look fine, but what a surprise the Touchosc 1.2 FC. Here is when i think the hell is comming... ok i download the update 1.3 for Touchosc (obviously the last "trick" does not work) so im now looking for a new one, but now i need your help or help for experienced dev from here to know if the code still been as Base64 code or is another type, because when i try to convert it just give like random symbols.

Please if someone can join this journey i think we can make it happen.

waiting for answers! Cheers!
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavdog:
Nice one I'm there with you Intensus, I'm no dev but I'm happy to help in anyway possible and I do have a couple of programmer mates who I can ask to help too. :)