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[Touch HD Android Development] Kapie:
Yeah, i know i dont need partitions for this build, but i guess i didnt read thoroly enough. Will try ;)

EDIT: it works now, thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] renedca:
Hi All

One question I do "Bundle works with file" modules-2.6.27.46-01 340-g2c1d169.tar.gz "and I'm downloading the file module with" htc-msm-linux-20110622_180615-package.tar.bz2 "I have to rename or do anything ... or the system can see the files without problems ..

Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards

renedca
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please read Incremental Updates to read about how to upgrade the kernel. This is in the first post...
[Touch HD Android Development] renedca:
thanks a lot..

My problem was when I had unpacked only one time "htc-msm-linux-20110622_180615-package.tar" and after I unpacked again "htc-msm-linux-20110622_180615-package".

Now is Working

One Quesion about wifi.. In this version the error "disappear" is Fixed?

my wifi is wpa2.

regards

renedca
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
This was never an issue, 'cept for user-error.
[Touch HD Android Development] sokran:
just for reporting with diamond....

i'd tried to run the package without any changed.

i'm also had tried all xdandroid version and other built from other thread not from diamond itself and it run perfectly. of course with some issues that already reported earlier.

only this package that cannot run in diamond.

thanks for your advise. will tried it soon....

i'm new in this. so, sorry if i did wrong.... :D:D:D

================

UPDATE:

i've change the kernel to this package 20110622 (modules-2.6.27.46-01332-ge571620)

the result: it run faster than previous bundle. so much faster than before. NICE...

now, will try the application system.

thanks for the great improvement.... :D :D :D
[Touch HD Android Development] renedca:
Hi All.

After install the new Kernell,, II have good feeling.

An other problem with my wireless hand "in disapear the task-bar icon."

After remove Sim and Work only with wifi, I do not have more problems.

This will put itself can help teachers of this application.

regards

renedca
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
Guys ,

sorry for the re-post .. but I posted my query in an incorrect thread ..

Basically Im trying to install this on my Blackstone .. placing all the files on the root... while installing it gets stuck on "Waiting for SD Card" ... Have formatted my SD Card to FAT 32 using the HP tool ... but no joy .. tried 2 different SanDisk Cards .. but it doesn't work.

Can anyone please guide me on what to do ..
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I would attempt to use another card if possible. If not possible, the only choice you have is to try other kernels.... I do not know what else could resolve the Waiting for SD Card issue.
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
Hmmm.. Have asked a mate to bring another SD Card ... lets see if it works .. fingures crossed..
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
Just tried with a moserbaer SD card .. fully formatted with HP tool .. didnt work :(

Anymore suggestions guys ... ?
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
this is what Im getting
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
What class cards are you trying? What kernels have you attempted with?

I really don't know what causes the Waiting for SD card, other than that clocks issue that was experienced a while back...
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
Not sure how to check class of the SD card .. can you please suggest how .. Im using the Full Bundle which was updated on 15th July .. havent attempted with any other Kernels ..
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well, for one I would definitely update to the newest kernel... that's one of the caveats for Blackstone.

Two, as for the class of the card - it should have a big C with a number in it. Mine says C4.

You can see on this image what the symbol C4 looks like...

That's a pretty standard symbol, so look for that giant C and look for the number inside of it. That is the class of the card.

If you can't find it anywhere, that's OK - it's probably a 'classless' card. 2gb cards and below that are older usually don't have classes.
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
Hey arrrghhh...

thx for the info ... Now Im pretty sure .. Im missing something cos of my dumbness with these things .. The Image you've posted .. is of an SD card.. whereas the phone uses a Micro SD card .. and I've copied all the files etc on it and put it onto the phone .. it doesn't have the Class etc on it ...

not sure .. but am I supposed to use an SD Card and not a Micro SD Card ..

Sorry , but I'm pretty new at this.. Thx for your patience in helping me ..
[Touch HD Android Development] amit_dp:
Doh .. Just checked in My Galaxy S2 .. the micro SD card also has a class mentioned on it .. so yeah .. the other cards I have been trying are Classless cards ..

do you recommend using a C4 sort of a card ... or classless ones are fine ?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Seems to be a crap shoot.

I'm able to boot on my classless card, but my 'main' card is a C4 card. The only cards that seem to have serious issues (at least on RHOD) are C10 cards. Some have reported problems on C6, but not many.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
just trying this on my blackstone now - not tried any of the SD builds since FRX05 to be honest.

Reflashed my phone to a WM 6.5 kwbr image - copied the files on the SD card and when running haret.exe it is whizzing through loads of text then hanging after about 30-60 seconds.

leave it for a minute or two and it speels off a bit more text then hangs again until the screen goes off.

think its worth formatting the SD card again?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Formatting can't hurt. Use the HP Tool. Full format, FAT32.

Did you do the ts-calibration step...? Are you on the newest kernel/rootfs? The bundled kernel in FRX07 doesn't play nice with non-keyboard devices, including Blackstone.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
yes and no?

I just grabbed the bundle FRX07 dumped that on with my ts-calibration from FRX05...

edit: just did a full FAT32 format anyway and re-copied over the FRX07 + ts-calibration... shall I grab the newer kernal/rootfs ? :)

edit2: I think it has gotten further than before... guess the format helped somewhat...
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well you'll need a newer kernel than is provided in this package. It's in the caveat list :rolleyes:.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
got the one from your post about a page back - and also updated the initrd and rootfs now :p

does the latest kernel work ok do you know?
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Should be fine. I'm running "a version" of it :p.

Edit - That kernel I linked earlier would be fine as well. Newer usually = better, but not always. There can be regressions. Use what works best for you ;).
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Ok, I know sometimes newer isn't better!

Running the one you suggested - its booted so will leave as is for the moment.

Using my blackstone as my work phone and finding WM a little poor, thought I would see how the newer FRX work out - is it stable enough for daily use these days?

edit: my next question was going to be 'where is the home button' but then i did a search (should have done that for the other questions, I know...) and found you'd answered that with the spare parts which is a great fix!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I dunno if I'd use this if it was a mission-critical thing like a work device... I can't afford to miss calls on my work phone.

But I think everyone's tolerance level is different. Run it, see if you can tolerate the issues. Anymore and the issues list on Android is less than WinMo's :p.

As for where is the home button, glad you found the spare parts fix. Blackstone has a dedicated end key, yes? If so, I'll get stinebd to update the rootfs. This was set default on RHOD, but I don't think stine considered any other devices with this tweak in the 07 rollout. Having an actual home key is nice, if only for the long press -> recent apps feature.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
12 hours battery life is the only issue (it drains overnight) but for that I don't care much apart from when I am on call, I dont expect to get calls overnight - so I can just charge it each morning at work... probably have to switch to win mo when on call for the battery life...

the main advantage is its _so_ much more responsive than WM - having a desire as my main phone I did struggle to answer calls and do simple stuff in WM just because I needed to have more patience :)

yes blackstone has power, vol up and down...

then also the call, home, back, end call buttons along the botttom.

call = phone

home = menu

back = back

end = power off by default, re-mapped to home in spare parts.

just noticed blackstone isnt part of the supported devices list http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Supported_Devices
[Touch HD Android Development] sportfisio:
Hi! First thanks again for the hard work you are doing here! Its awesome!

Now I have FRX07 with latest roofts and kernels from xda, and it's working pretty nice! One big problem is still the audio shuttering issue...

And from time to time, I get Wifi disconnected...then comes back again in few seconds. Don't know if this is an issue from the Blackstone or from the modem...Is anyone experience this?

Thanks again!
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
running this for nearly a day now, the battery seems to be very random in its reporting of the %... charging was at 51% for aaaaaaaaages and then it refreshed itself to 69% - booted into WM and it was 90% - charged to 99% in WM, booted to FRX07 and it was 90%

Also noticed wifi icon disappear (but i think it was still connected)... dont know if that's the same as sportfisio is reporting?

other than that - it seems pretty sweet :)

contacts couldn't be read from the sim directly (and no option to select them from the 'view contacts from' sort of area)... so I re-entered them all... then found an 'import from SIM' option - doh...

Angry birds doesnt work :( Angry Birds Lite does though :)
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I don't use wifi much, but when I do (usually testing something :p) it works pretty well. Only way to tell for sure is logs...

You already seem to know the stuttering issue. You can kill the [battery] process, and AFAIK it fixes the issue. Someone on Neopeek said it didn't, but in the past it did...

Either way, like I already said... a dev with a Blackstone needs to tackle this problem.

Battery driver is pretty broken. It's really just guessing, and the algo is based on one person's phone/battery. The algo is not flexible at all...

Jonpry rewrote the whole batt algo and did some great work. But it didn't work for many devices, and some people had issues with it still. I don't know what happened to it...

Angry Birds requires OpenGLES2.0 - our hardware can only support 1.1. I think this 'Lite' version is optimized for older hardware ;).
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Ah, if I could help with anything I would
[Touch HD Android Development] sacada1952:
Definitively it doesn't work in my blackstone , formatted my micro sd card of 4gb Sandisk C4 varies turns & she swims of on-screen :waiting for sd carding,,a good many minutes & nao she leaves about that she swims , by using the I complete FroYo FRX07,, could me deliver a help? thank you

:(:(:(
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
I have no clue what you're talking about with swimming, but Waiting for SD usually indicates an SD card that doesn't play nice on Blackstones. Try a different SD card please.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Hehe swims...

Also I noticed using full FRX07 and it might be the updated kernel needed etc.
[Touch HD Android Development] greekdevil:
hello everyone i got a question.... am using the complete FroYo FRX07 with the ts calibration file that u give!!! i copy them into my sd card and everything seem to work but....when the icon of xdandroid appears onboot after 1 min my phone restarts and starts windowsmobile again! i try it many times but nothing change !! pleease help me!! thanks alot and keep up the hard work!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Make sure you're on the newest kernel. Might also be a good idea to update to the newest rootfs. See the first post, cheers.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
i agree - same issue i had - update and it worked fine for me! (i did eventually apply all the updates from the xdandroid site)
[Touch HD Android Development] greekdevil:
i applyed everythin new kernels and new rootfs and after 3 times booting it works......everything seems to work fine but still there is an issue with the battery life (but better than before) and with the wifi it loses the signal some times !! Still now everything works good and smooth!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Wifi is... wifi. It's not consistent.

Battery life, there's many reasons battery life isn't so good. Hopefully it'll improve in time, but will need some one with a Blackstone, some kernel development knowledge, and a lot of time :p.
[Touch HD Android Development] RumJanek:
Hi! First thanks for the hard work you are doing here

I have problem with network. WiFi work OK but no network servive on my phone, I try 20110819_183957 and 20110718_223029 kernel, but no network on my HTC. What I doing wrong?

Thanks for help
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
You're using FRX07 with the newest kernel & rootfs?

What do you have in your startup.txt?

Has any Android build worked?

Have you tried rebooting?
[Touch HD Android Development] RumJanek:
Hi,

Yes, I used FRX07 from #1 post and try this kernel first (htc-msm-linux @ 20110819_183957), then this one (htc-msm-linux @ 20110718_223029) from the same post.

My startup.txt look like:

I used Android on my HTC, but not remember whitch one B4 yesterday when I format my SD card.

I try reboot phone, but not help.

Any idea what wrong?

Many thanks 4 Ur help ;)

PS.: I used Android 2.1 (Eclair) B4...
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm, everything looks fine here.

This is a GSM Blackstone? I thought that was the only type... Which BLAC? Are there even revisions of that device, or is it all BLAC100?

Have you tried looking in the phone menu? Wireless&Networks, make sure you're not in airplane mode or anything like that...?

I'm honestly not sure what would cause a simple no service issue.
[Touch HD Android Development] farukb:
i had pretty much the same issue,and i believe it was something data.img-kernel related...try complinig data.img with a different kernel,or at least compile it again with the same one
[Touch HD Android Development] RumJanek:
Yes

Yeah, phone menu look OK, but I can't open Wireless&Networks, and airplane mode is off.

M2, I have 1st time problem like this.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Can you explain what you mean by "can't open Wireless&Networks"? That's not normal.

So you've run other Android versions OK? I'm not sure what other builds have for a RIL, that might be the culprit - but other Blackstone users use this new RIL without issues.

Have you tried the standard, annoying troubleshooting?

Reboot, try again.

Delete data.img, try again.

Format card, try again.

Format card, start completely fresh (don't reuse anything), try again.

Not the best methods for triaging issues, but I'm not sure what could've gone awry that would cause a no service condition.

Hrm, just had an idea - try a new radio firmware. Make sure you're on the newest radio firmware available for your device. I have a RHOD that's CDMA, so I can't really help here ;).
[Touch HD Android Development] SerPiolo:
i'm sorry but i didn't understand if this release autoboot at startup or not... something change from xxxx6
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
None of our releases would 'autoboot' at startup. Gen.Y helps fake an autoboot feature at startup. This is an unsupported app, as it's a piece of WinMo software. Please post questions about that program in that thread.
[Touch HD Android Development] RumJanek:
Hi,

My ROM date is 02/12/10, Radio version: 1.17.25.09

I try run another Android, GBX0A and WiFi, camera and GSM work well, but when I try plug on to charger, screen freeze and need reboot again.
[Touch HD Android Development] john_matrix:
Hi there!

Thank you Arrrghhh for your Blackstone Froyo build! ;)

I've just tested on my old Blackstone and it works great! I don't have try a lot of thing at the moment. I've just saw that LED notifications don't work.

If needed, I can make some tests.
[Touch HD Android Development] RumJanek:
Why I do not know as I copied the application The android on the card 4GB and I later put the 8GB card from WM and different my applications, then the Android found oneself on the card 8GB. I wondered the capacity of the card why she decreased from 8 on 4GB, The android found oneself on her and she was occupied in 90% I could not regain the application for WM.

I made the format SD of the card and I regained full her capacity, however all data and programs was lost I managed to save only telephone contacts and copied on SIM card. I did hard reset of the telephone and again copied the Android on the card. My Blackstone is fresh now and Android runs from first boot time. All works towards my surprise now!

Thank you for your hard work, I go now to test the new Android.

Ps.: sorry all for my bad language
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
no idea why but my phone doesnt seem to be working anymore...

was working fine for a week or two - but yesterday and today when i get a phone call I can answer, the other person can hear me - but I don't get any sound at all.

anyone else experienced that? or do i just need to reinstall again?

cheers

edit: just trying updating kernel and rootfs as i noticed theres an update from the version i have on

edit2: turns out the rootfs was the latest - and i dont think the new kernel likes my sim as I just get no mobile connection when booting...

edit3: rebooted to windows, back to android and now mobile signal is working again - and I can hear myself when I call myself too - so that shows progress!
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
So... from edit3, it looks like you're good again? Sometimes things seem to break without reason, and typically it's related to the data.img file becoming corrupt. If you continue to have issues, I would recommend at the very least renaming that file in WinMo and letting the system create a new one on the next boot - that way if the problem persists you can easily revert to your old data.img, which has all the apps you installed, all the changes you made, etc.
[Touch HD Android Development] Lothaen:
Yep - all working again - a couple of reboots may have done it really - but at least i updated the kernel now anyway!

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] JEZ69:
hello arrrghhh

i try from 2 days the bundle frx07 and everything ok except the hotspot wifi but i know it s driver problem...maybe you have a solution ...but my real qustion is you know the way to install the frx07 ext2 version ??...

thank s for share your job

ps :for "mount usb" with "multimount sd" from market is working
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Are you using the built-in wifi tethering tool...? It's flaky, at best. Some have had success with it, but it's certainly not consistent.

ext2 version? If you mean dedicated partitions, our rootfs supports it but we don't officially support that configuration. In other words, you can do it - nothing stopping you - but I will not support that configuration, nor will I help you set it up. Sorry...
[Touch HD Android Development] JEZ69:
thanks for the answer it s not really important that build works well

for the hotspot wifi i tried everything stock and most of wifi tethering and nothing

but i found a solution with internet usb sharing "Klink" from market working like a charm better than windows internet sharing for me...

thank s again for the job
[Touch HD Android Development] Fuseless:
Works fine

I have used the pack, applied all the incremental backups, and ran as instructed.

Comparing to previous releases,this is the most stable one for me:

Camera: Working

Wifi: Working

BT: Didn't try

Market: working

The problems I faced:

- Black screen once since yesterday, couldn't wake the phone back and had to

take off battery.

- Upon running haret.exe, sometimes XDANDROID starts normally, while some

other times I get IO errors throughout the initial linux commands which I didn't

get a chance to write down yet. After removing the battery and relaunching

haret through WinMO, it starts normally.

- Throughout the initial installation I get some file or folder not found messages,

mainly in /lib/... or /dev/... folders, is this normal?

- Trying applications/games now, was able to run Hangman game, Astro

explorer. Was unable to run Angry Birds.

Is the XDAndroid usually compatible with most android apps?

Otherwise everything looks good,

Thanks for the hard work.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
For the black screen, might want to try to disable auto-brightness in Settings -> Display. Touching the screen where the unlock is sometimes helps as well.

Not sure why you get failures to start - Blackstones seem to be particularly finnicky depending on the SD card. Might want to try a full format with the HP Tool (see first post), or perhaps a different card.

Not sure what you mean "throughout the initial installation" - if it's working, don't worry about it :p.

Most applications do work, but obviously some apps are not going to work on our devices. This is true for native Android devices as well - the older ones aren't always going to be compatible with an app. Angry Birds for example requires OpenGLES2.0, and our hardware supports 1.1.
[Touch HD Android Development] Fuseless:
Hi arrrghhh,

Thank you for your reply,

1- Auto-Brightness already disabled by default

2- Already tried formatting with both HP-Tool and SDFormatter

3- What I meant by initial installation, is the 1st run of haret.exe. However, it is

working indeed so i'll let it be.

4- Do you know of a list of application compatibility, what works and what

doesn't?

Thanks again.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
1 - I guess try waiting then, if the phone is truly dead try adb before rebooting - this will see if it truly is dead or not.

2 - Not sure then... sometimes I have failed boots, but they're very infrequent. I would try a different SD if it becomes a bigger problem.

3 - Sounds good ;)

4 - There's how many apps on the Android Market? No, sorry - there is no list lol.
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Updated to FRX07.1 - maintenance release. Fixed some outlying bugs and updated everything. Should all work OOB for all now!
[Touch HD Android Development] JEZ69:
hello arrrghhh

i tried this update and the physicals keys don t work (phone, home, back, end)

have you the same problem?

thank s for the job
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Don't work... at all? So they do nothing?

I didn't even know Blackstone had physical keys... I thought they were just capacitive buttons.

Either way, the change that was made *should* have been RHOD-only. You don't have anything funky in your startup.txt? You're using the startup that is provided in the bundle...?
[Touch HD Android Development] JEZ69:
yes i use the one in the build i tried the old one working on frx07 and the same problem...

maybe you re right they are capacitive key but they don t work they vibrate but nothing more....
[Touch HD Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ok, I'll talk to the rootfs maintainer to see what could've happened. I thought that change was RHOD-only, perhaps it wasn't.

You can revert to an older rootfs in the meantime, should work just fine. rootfs 20110816 should work fine for BLAC.
[Touch HD Android Development] JEZ69:
ok i ll try now thanks a lot ....

waiting for fixing

good job
[Touch HD Android Development] JEZ69:
same problem....sorry