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[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
On one hand that sounds like the very honest sentiment of a nerd who doesn't like that his 'special thing' is about to become a lot less special since the plebes will have easy access to something you worked hard at....kinda...

...on one hand, I identify...on the otherhand that is selfish and a tad shallow. "Don't do what I do that makes me special, that's only for me!"....but I'm not insulting you, I'm being honest even though I feel exactly that same as you on the issue.

Now on the the more practical matter: You are correct sir. 99% of all phone owners have no idea what it is--and that will not change. It has not changed...okay, maybe it went from 99% to 98%, but, that's not too bad.

Those 98% have no business flashing roms, radios, modifying their framework, flashing a recovery...In this world people with a 3G phone who want 4G--the "clever ones" anyway--will try flashing a 4G radio to it to "upgrade it", people who want sense on a samsung will try to flash that...XDA will be flooded with idiocy and internet gangsters who start flamewars with us real geeks for being, well, real geeks and not telling them our secrets of how to upgrade an OG droid to a droid3...etc etc etc.

Luckily, most people are completely ignorant of the matter and even if you TRY to tell them more they. simply. don't. give. a. ****...and that's if you are lucky enough to even get them to understand it.

Don't worry OP...I've been a geek hacking at my hardware and software since I got my first computer in 1990 with a 1200 baud modem...and even in this age where the internet is in everybody's pocket (something we used to have to hack into university systems to get back then), where 1.2ghz dual core processors are in everyone's pocket (my first computer was 4.77mhz with 512k of ram and a 20mb hard drive the size of a netbook)....and video game consoles are more powerful than a supercomputer the size of arkansas would have been back them....even amongst this flood of technology EVERYWHERE these people still prefer to remain ignorant, even the ones that aren't complete retards.

Our secrets are safe, unfortunately.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I like our "secret club" even though we are a dis functional family..I used to love when ppl wouldbbe like i have an EVO too and then the saw the POwwA of mine
[HTC EVO 3D] hockeyfamily737:
All the exposure of rooting phones / devices has been great for exposure of the potential of the Android system and has helped grab marketshare......However, if you pop over to the Nook forums you'll see a steady influx of people rooting their Nook Colors, flashing something wrong, then shouting from the rooftops "OMG my Nook is bricked!!!!"....all because they didn't know what they were doing & didn't take the time to read & learn about what they were doing in the first place. I'm afraid that is just the direction we're heading in and there is really no way to stop it.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. You could advertise it with a non-stop crawl on the bottom of the screen starting before american idol and have it run for 2 days straight, blinking red, advertising the benefits of what we do and we wouldn't even notice a difference around here.

...maybe in other forums, but def not the e3d section.

It is entertaining here. I returned mine a week ago and can't stay away.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
And that's when I.believe we will run into trouble ..if they "give" us root and ppl f it up..even If they read the disclaimers they will raise unholy Hell to replace their "bricked" device..I think us.flashers are a small %...the amount of us that brick our phones is a small % of that..****..I would of have to actually try harder to brick my 4G than to flash something new..and even If i was successful there's always nandroid. Anyways I just worry I guess..I really enjoyed my experience with the 4G development..I wish it could be that way again..but HTC had to go and f that up.
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
This is why you will not see a mass introduction of SU permissions made easy by HTC or Sprint. They know the impact this will make if they give every user out there that wants to flash ROM's or play with Kernel's, that they will end up with a massive payout of returns and loss of profits due to people ****ing up their phones because of their inability to actually learn. You can say your phone bricked itself right now when you flash ROMS and get a new phone without paying a deductible. If we know this, then don't think Sprint or HTC is ignorant enough to know that giving the masses complete control of their phones without some kind of watermark or time-stamp into their product, then they will lose out huge and potentially not be #1 anymore. The only S OFF you will see, is the S OFF were you will be marked like a 666 beast and given a choice to take a red pill or blue pill. It's your choice whether you travel down the rabbit hole.
[HTC EVO 3D] Matstarr:
When will this madness stop?
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
You guys dont seem to grasp the concept that HTC will NOT root your phone via an OTA. They are going to remove the encryption on the bootloader to allow us to get S-Off on the device and allow system writes to stick. It is not like you will automatically get S-Off and your device will be rooted when they release the OTA. If you do nothing your phone will be exactly the same.
[HTC EVO 3D] hockeyfamily737:
I think everyone pretty much understands that HTC isn't going to magically root everyone's phones, however.......By the very nature of how public the discussion has become and by how very simple the actual rooting process has become SOME people who probably should not be rooting their phones will be. As I've said it's exactly what I've seen with the Nook...."Oh if I burn an SD card, I can have the Android market, cool!?!?"......"Oooops, now I have a blank screen, HELP IT'S BRICKED" Obviously many more people will go on oblivious to our fun, but a handfull who have half a clue will be flashing away without even knowing the risks & rewards of what they are doing.
[HTC EVO 3D] issafram:
This.

The update will probably be an OTA, transparent change where a normal end user notices nothing different (except any bug fixes that were expected in the release). The nerdlings or the "community" at XDA then makes it S-OFF, then flashes custom recovery, then custom ROM.

Point being, HTC won't give you an update that has CM with it
[HTC EVO 3D] UhQ:
the evo is already one click rooted.. I don't see how that is so hard. People could root if they could figure it out. Most people won't like the evo 4g.
[HTC EVO 3D] Nsandhu23:
How many people will take the time out of their day to research what an ota update is for on their new 3vo. Not many.

Sent from my 3vo
[HTC EVO 3D] housry23:
I would like to add that most people that have an HTC phone don't visit the HTC Facebook page and/or Twitter page and have no idea about this whole bootloader encryption and what it does. The phone will NOT be rooted by the OTA. All they will do is release an unencrypted bootloader which will probably take a simple fastboot command 'fastboot oem unlock' for it to be unlocked and "s-off". Then install a custom recovery, a rooted Rom and presto you are rooted. This to most people is still too scary to even mess with and risk ****ing up their phone for. For us on here it is a whole different experience. Phones today are pretty much unbrickable unless flashing a radio and pulling the battery or not letting it complete in some way. Most people will give two ****s less about the OTA and we will still be "special".
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
I should hope not...Clockwork is leGarbage.

Lol, wait, were you talking about CM as in recovery, or CM as in teamCyanogenMod?

Either way, Clockworkmod recovery is basically broken, (at least it was for the OGEVO), if trying to work with deodexed ROMS. We'll end up with a custom recovery, I'd bet.

Sent from my 3DeeVo
[HTC EVO 3D] YoungSinema:
The OTA won't root our phones. Most people won't even know what the OTA is for even if you tell them. The average consumer doesn't undertstand the terms we use (kernal, bootloader, S-off, root, etc.). Hell, some people don't even know what HTC is. I showed this girl my phone, and she was like "Awww! That's the new HTC phone with the 3D huh? I hate you, I wish I had an HTC. All I have is this stupid old G1." And another girl asked me a few months ago why I said I'll only get Android phones for now on. If I change my mind I can get an amazing phone like the Evo 3D coming out.
[HTC EVO 3D] issafram:
Oh so you are one of those guys?

CM = CyanogenMod

CWM = ClockWorkMod
[HTC EVO 3D] GadgetMonger:
I agree. To a lot of people every Android powered device is a "Droid". If a person doesnt know what root is by now unlocked bootloaders wont mean a thing to him either. After all, anybody with access to the internet could aquire root for their og Evo as it is right? ;) The only ones asking for a unlocked bootloader are those of us who know what it is and can appreciate the benefits. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
It just seemed to me from HTC's statement that there would be two updates. I figured maybe one was to remove the encryption and the next one maybe s-off..maybe not.I never thought a company would do that especially when all.they need to do is remove the encryption.. but if they tell everyone who gets the ota that this will void warranty it may discourage some but may interest others...I have a bunch of.friends.who got EVO 4gs when the price dropped and instead of looking it up and researching, they rather wait for me to root/flash their phone..although its proving to be a pia..
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Thanks..

So It's kinda like the WTHTTP?

Sent from my 3DeeVo
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plau13:
as title. Seems like it's a natural way to go. Right now it's a pain to upload stuff to Google+.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] williams2917:
Developers:

Are any of you working on...perhaps HTC sense 3.0 for the G2X? Is it even possible?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] PhantomRampage:
Try searching, this has been asked before.

The short answer is: No. If you want sense then get an HTC device that has it natively
[T-Mobile LG G2x] OuncE718:
Its actually possible. Its just up to a team of developers to spend countless hours and maybe even months to get it running. I had a Nexus S and it worked, but it was in the beta stages so it wasn't so smooth.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tahahawa:
If and when I get a g2x I'll take a look ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] avetny:
yes ! but we first need official 2.3
[T-Mobile LG G2x] deadonarivalry:
And now that we have a 2.3 release? Anyone working on this perhaps? Just asking. I love Sense but my G2x was free... Sensation 199 under contract. Don't have that at this time otherwise I would definitely have the Sensation. Not that there's anything wrong with the G2x it's a beast. I just really like Sense.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
Why don't you just install MIUI? It's comparable to Sense... Except it's better optimized... Sense is a resource hog.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] deadonarivalry:
That's true. Sense is a bit if a hog on the system. Where can I find MIUI? I looked through the forums briefly and seems like its not official yet. I did manage to get HTC IME though. That was a huge factor for me. As I do ton of typing on this thing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mstrk242:
While yes, we do have 2.3, we don't have the source code for it. That's what's needed.

It's possible, but going to be very time consuming.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dalephil22:
The version 1.8.5 on muiu.us is a pretty stable version. I'm running it currently and happy so far. It is a work in progress however.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Segnaro:
I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. It was ported to the Galaxy S using Cyanogenmod 7 as a base, lots of things broken though. :P
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jaestreetss:
Yea it would be nice to have a rom w/ sense .....just to say haha! But Really...I have beautiful Widgets n its kind of like having a fake sense homescreen. Or at least port the best of sense to the g2x...would be lovely ...& no I don't want an HTC phone!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] deadonarivalry:
I bought my Hero 10/09 as a xmas gift to myself. Lol. It was my first touchscreen phone, and it was terrible. Lol. I had to root it and flash a ROM just to make it usable. Clearly, the dev community is not big on SUI, but I for one miss it. Terribly.

At this point, I've pretty much made up my mind. I'm just trying to decide if I want to sell my G2x or cancel my service with TMo altogether and wait for the HTC Ruby to drop, as I'm a pretty new subscriber. I might be waiting a while, though, cuz I never buy phones at launch. Too many bugs. So that's the only thing with that.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jaestreetss:
I had the hero too before I knew about rooting.

It was slow come to think of it.

But I really think this phone can handle sense. The g2x specs are up to par and it has handled anything (rom apk cam port etc..) pretty well.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] deadonarivalry:
Yeah, but you have to find a dev interested enough to want to port it over. So far, I haven't met a single one.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] drob311:
This is ported fron the mikG evo rom. Created by jadeboy7 all thanks and credit goes to him for doing all the real work.

This mod removes the list of recent apps in the notification pulldown. I have only tested this on mikshifted-G! Clear cache and d.c.... Flash away

Link for MikShifted-G upto but not including v.1.5

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28363844/MikShifted-GRemove_Recent_Apps_flashable-signed.zip

link for MikShifted-G v.1.5 and up

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28363844/MikShiftedG_v.1.6-remove-recent-apps.zip

Here is a link to the original thread it has links on how to make widgetsoid work in the notification pulldown. Similar to cm7...

http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=242&t=2172
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] notsointeresting:
Thanks man!

Always hated it no point in it im used to holding down the home button.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] strapped365:
Yeah I hated that myself and that's what kept me on 2.2 for the longest now I'm running miks 1.2 3D Rosie and works flawless can I put a link to this thread in my op because I feel everyone should have a choice in how their phones look and feel. And this themes and apps section gets no love
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] drob311:
Hell yeah man...
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] prboy1969:
Hey drob, the new one you put up on the MikMik is hellua choice ;) . Nice work man. Just installed it on someone else's phone. Slick.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] hoesnaps:
This zip puts me in boot loop :(
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] drob311:
SORRY MAN!!!!!

UPDATED O.P. FOR MikShifted-G 1.5 and up

Clear cache and dalvik cache before flashing. This has been tested by myself.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] hoesnaps:
I was on 1.4 and it stayed on the mikrom boot screen.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] prboy1969:
Make sure you Download and Flash the correct version. One version is for MikRoms up to v1.4 . Version 1.5 and above have a different System UI , that's why the two versions.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] drob311:
Well in that case, im not sure bro... Both versions have worked without hitch for me and quite a few others... Make sure you wipe cache and dalvik cache before flashing. Or update to the latest mikshiftedG and flash the new one. :)
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] prboy1969:
Have also tried, and used both versions. Also, know people currently using latest version. Absolutly no issues. Looks great BTW drob :)

MikShifted on XDA Premium APP

TEAM MiK

Mik ROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] drob311:
Thank you sir :)... And just a little advice for everyone... After i download any rom, theme, or tweak zip file, i go into es file explorer and try to view the zip. If you can view the contents of the zip it should flash... If you get an error in es file explorer when attempting to view the contents, you probably have a bad download... Checking this way has actually never not worked for me...

Edit: in no way is this way any where near as effective as a good old fashioned md5 check... Always flash with caution! :)
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] prboy1969:
Good info :) . Thanks for sharing ;) .
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
Can't believe noone has posted this yet...

http://www.mediafire.com/?vdocx41t37rnn6y

Just download and install replacing the old Android Market.

No known issues have surfaced by doing this. Install at your own discretion.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] dave3588:
Cool! Thanks for sharing!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Vinnie981:
SCREEN????
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] M00NEY:
I like it. Very Windows 8 our Windows Phone-esk, but I like out ;)

Swyped...
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] rsswga:
freaking awesome
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] bigjobber69:
when is this going to be pushed out officially?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ExNight:
No kidding, this it's awesome. Even has movie rentals.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] aes55:
Ok, so I got the new market, along with the updated book & video apks that go with it...

The books work great, however the video app will not work on rooted devices (returns that specific error message)

Warning: market will let you purchase a video, just not play it!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
It's being pushed as we speak. Going to take a few weeks to be totally pushed to everyone.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
Double post
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] mgrimmenator:
dude, thx, alot
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] jobu3434:
is anyone else finding it impossible to update an app when it is the only one that needs to be updated?? if it is multiple updates then you can update all but if it is only one there isnt an update button.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] artvandelay440:
I have this problem also.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
Well, just like before you have to go in the app and hit update. It wont show above the list of Apps unless you have more than one update ready.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] jobu3434:
its not showing the update option. that is the problem. it is showing the open option like there is no update when there is
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Felix2402:
Thank you for this. Seems a lot faster now.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] DirgeExtinction:
I've had that happen with the previous market. Just give it time.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] mgrimmenator:
I am runnin ef3.6 and this app keeps fc on me when I click on an image on try to navigate through the screen shots of apps. anyone else got this issue? how to rollback?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
Go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications- All(Tab)-Market and then clear data, clear cache, and uninstall updates.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] TedLWJR:
Thanks for posting this.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] mgrimmenator:
thanks, that rolled it back. now is anyone else having this issue or just me? i like the new market but want it to be reliable.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
I haven't had any issues at all with it. Its an official release so it should be alright. Maybe give it another shot.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] dhouston10:
Pretty sweet. Thank you!

Sent from my Verizon Fascinate, running Cyanogenmod 7
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] kuronosan:
I too rolled back the new market due to the "Out of space" error. My phone has plenty of storage space remaining. New Market looks pretty, but not being able to update my apps is a huge no-no for me.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacisblack:
A roll back and re-install has helped most people. I don't see why you would be having issues give it another shot. I also had the update issue but since I did a roll back and reinstall I've had no problems.
[EVO 4G General] wings9130:
I am having some problems with my airwave. I have the new version that does 3g data. My problem is with text messages. When i'm texting randomly the phone will not send messages and show an "x" saying that the text didn't go through. The person at the other end will get that message repeatedly until i reset the airwave by unplugging and plugging it back in. Is this a problem with the evo or with rooted phones/custom roms or is this a problem with all evos that are on the airwave. Sprint said it's a known issue but they don't know what is the problem and have no timetable on a fix.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yep that's why we don't use ours.

It's an issue with the device and nothing to do with your issue.

Its been a "known issue" for quite awhile now.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Yep, that's one of the MANY issues I had with my Airave. That's why I stopped using it, since Sprint doesn't really provide any support for it, except to tell you that things like this are "normal".
[EVO 4G General] ORam78:
Funny thing about this, a senior tech supprt agent told me this was fixed with the last firmware update for the airave.....nope, I have the same issue. I end up telling my friends that my network is on crack and they laugh....I've learned not to go text crazy while in my airave coverage. Your best bet is to call and complain to tech support.
[EVO 4G General] pwnst*r:
Yep, happens every once in awhile on mine and I have the latest. Overall it's worth it though because I get nearly full bars of 3G throughout my house. Prior to the Airave I would get 1 to 2.

And it's Airave, not Airwave ;D
[EVO 4G General] Fazulka:
I have the same problem with my airave, but with my wife phone. The EVO seems to work after hers has stopped. About once a week I have to unplug it. Worth it, texts and mms didn't work at all without it.
[EVO 4G General] Cares:
I stopped using my Airvana because of this issue. Each tech support rep kept giving me different responses but no one could fix it. It got too frustrating that I pulled the plug on it and I just force roaming when I'm at home.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ionstorm3:
I have been trying to unpack the atrix system.img file from the stock gingerbread 4.5.91 build, but I can't seem to get it to work. I keep getting an error about a segmentation fault. I have tried it on linux (ubuntu), OSX and windows. Linux and OSX give me a segmentation fault using unyaffs. Windows just gives me a stack file. If anyone knows how to unpack and repack the atrix .img files in either three of the operating systems I would appreciate the help.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G-Man.:
Read the forum rules, questions do not belong in this section of the forum - thats what the Q&A section is for. Mr. Clown, please move or delete this thread..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] huasracing00:
Anyone know how to fully root a samsung continuum without bricking it?? Please need help!:confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Soulwind721:
Download and install most recent drivers, download superoneclick v1.9, (and extract it from Zip) if you dont extract it wont work. and use superoneclick, if you install the busybox, you'll have to restart the phone, but it will berooted. all you have to do is enable debugging on the phone, plug it in, and hit root on superoneclick. Has worked 3 times for me.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] toughestsoldier:
where do you download it at
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] BBAHunter:
I want to try an alternate carrier and they require unlocked phones. It's My Simple Mobile and I have an iPAQ 512 to play with to see if the service is any good.

The device was originally purchased in China and has been working on T-Mobile. How can I tell if it's actually locked anyway?

Thanks
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] BBAHunter:
Well, I guess it's already unlocked, working on t-mobile and when I search networks, I see AT&T listed as well. I did the simple mobile sim from CompUSA and got it working via t-mobiles service (I guess simple mobile piggybacks off t-mobile.)
[HTC Sensation] RestInPieces209:
Seems pretty cool. But very slow... Takes forces to load and download. Anyone else having problems?