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[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
Nova-7 stood up much better than the 6-th version. And while there is no single failure.

But that's where the promised Titanium Backup???????
[LG Optimus Black] evilenter:
Did you wipe /data after flashing?
[LG Optimus Black] kingvui78:
For the nova script set cpu governor problem, I just use back setcpu to encounter it
[LG Optimus Black] lucasmalaguti:
could someone indicate me some reading to understand what is this 'cpu governor', 'minmax', 'smartass'?

i really dont have any idea what it is and seems like it helps a lot to make the phone faster and to drain lot less battery :)
[LG Optimus Black] yeomond:
the set governor on boot is buggy, sometimes it works sometimes it dont
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
Governor = tells cpu how to behave

MinMax, SmartAss = different methods/governors
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
Report

I'm flashing Nova v7 from v5.8, wipe cache...

just want to report, that the boot is awesome fast..

The problem is changing governor, it seem does not work to set at boot. it always return to minmax/ondemand after booting. I've been trying for a few times reboot, and the result is the same. is it bug of Nova Script?

but that's not a big problem for me, because later I use CPU Master (just like clone of SetCPU), but it has a nice widget :)

anybody else?
[LG Optimus Black] KrLx_roller:
On the main post!

I think you should change Quasar kernel to its current version. Some people can be confused after reading that version.
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
Theres bigger problems than kernel version info.
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
You have no idea of the errors that TB was causing if it was installed in ROM.

Do not complain so much and just f* install it, it's an app. You should have the version with TB by default and have a frozen fone.

:)
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
Yes you can

:)
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
Governor in autoboot works fine here with InterativeX

:)
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
Not working for me.
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
What do you mean? Anyway, knzo said LG kernel doesn't let him change version number.

:)
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
we can see the kernel version via quadrant advanced,it shows quasarV2 in this version:)
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
in setcpu it shows ondemand,but in fact it is minmax
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
With minmax activated, setcepu shows ondemand? why?

Is this from new autoboot governor set?

If I use setcpu to set minmax... does then show minmax and use minmax, or whenever I set minmax it will appear as ondemand?

I'll flash this afternoon, I'll post my comments for sure.

Regards!
[LG Optimus Black] :
im sorry but this one is broken. after 4 of 5h of working just fine, it crashed, had to pull the battery out and when it came back on it was totally reset like I keep getting force closes to EVERYTHING
[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
Replase in SetCPU ondemand on minmax (not Set on boot) and reboot phone. On the next time SetCPU show minmax. In Terminal active governor show minmax.
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
so in resume, what are the known bugs/issues of V7 noticed so far?
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
It says: !! Keep wifi and screen on !!.

That's what happens when you don't follow instructions.

And why did you flash a KDZ?... You know you could just boot into recovery with the eRecovery method and reflash Nova right?

I don't understand how people use Nova and don't even know its features.

Did it say in instructions to wipe data or factory reset after flashing Nova?

That's because it breaks Nova script. Now you have to reflash.

Listen everyone, the instructions, known issues, FAQ, guidelines, changelog and the rest of information exists to be read. If you don't follow what I say at crucial steps, you'll end up frustrated for not working and you'll come here post and I'll have to reply.

Another thing: auto-set governor on boot works.

However:

- it will only apply the governor 3 minutes after you boot.

So if you're checking after 30 seconds of course it will be ondemand.

This had to be done to override LG's applications choosing ondemand.

-

Only smartass isn't working because I just found out that its called SmartassV2 and not Smartass. I'll release a fix for this in a jiffy.

And finally, Titanium Backup had to be removed. It was ****ing up the whole ROM, ask Antonio. I now officially hate Titanium Backup and hereby fully advise against it.
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
I reafirm your whole post, and specially this last part LOL.

Going to rest outside for the day of this fantastic day :p I think I deserve it a little bit, and you too knzo!!!

Until night! :P
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
actually i have the same problem setting up a governor, after reboot it always go back to ondemand, but with setcpu now it's perfect

antonio,knzo thank you
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
http://www.multiupload.com/G305E64B5P

Remember, wait 10 minutes before checking if governor was set.
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
with me interactiveX doesn't work too knzo
[LG Optimus Black] kingvui78:
Thanks for your explanation, and yes It's work, check it after few minutes.

And I agree with you, titanium backup mess up the ROM, start from V3 of NOVA I never use again, because it give me a lot of errors if I restore applications by titanium backup, so now I only do clean install
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
how i flash that file?
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
What about reading instructions.txt inside?
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
Pretty boy I thought that I have to flash it trough cwm

Sorry if I offend you
[LG Optimus Black] kingvui78:
Here is what I did to apply the smartass fixer

1. Download and extract the smartass_fixer.zip

2. At phone, settings>applications>development>Make sure USB debungging is tick

3. Connect phone with USB cable to PC

4. Then click and run smartass_fixer.bat (in windows) or smartass_fixer.sh (in linux)

Then the adb windows popup and running after it's finished, it's done
[LG Optimus Black] haitzo:
I get under 2000 points in quadrant, can it be because I still have not fixed the smartass thing?
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
For all those who want to solve the smartass issue.

If you (like me) don't want to connect your OB with USB cable, you can directly paste new nova script inside your OB.

1.- Inside smartass_fixer.zip there are a file named 'nova'. This is nova script.

2.- Push the file to your phone in the way you prefer: bluetooth (my prefered), dropbox (for example), putting it into sdcard, attached in a email... etc and then put 'nova' onto root of your sdcard.

3.- Run terminal and make the following:

srw
rm /system/xbin/nova
cp /sdcard/nova /system/xbin/nova
chmod 7777 /system/xbin/nova
sro

3.b.- In my case, i don't make that... I simply look at /system/xbin to see the permission of the existing nova, move the new nova to /system/xbin/ and then I put the same permissions that old nova had. All can be perfectly done with root explorer.
[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
SOmetimes i have the same problem, but think on overcklock - small voltage.
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
thanks for who help me

cheers
[LG Optimus Black] kingvui78:
I don't think so, because with or without the smartass fixer apply or minmax governor that I choose, the maximum quadrant score that I can achieve only around 2200

So just curious how can Bro knzo can get 2700 in qudrant?

Even I do a fresh flash of the ROM, without install any applications and test with quadrant, the points still around 2200.

But anyway that's is not important for me also, I just curious :p
[LG Optimus Black] zogoibi:
No need to be ironic. He was right, I'm afraid: unzipping the file (that's the first thing you do whenever you get a zipped file, right?) there's an "instructions.txt" file. So, he has actually helped you telling you to read the instructions inside.
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
nova rom or a theme it's a zip and must be flashed

don't need to be rude, he could tell me to unzip the file without be smartass
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
I said in instructions to read the FAQ.
[LG Optimus Black] garzacorporations:
I just achieve 2335 points minmax governor (smartass does not autoaplies on startup).

PD: How can I unninstall LG updater? I installed it and realized with nova is totally unuseful.
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
knzo already fix that

go to 1st post
[LG Optimus Black] garzacorporations:
I will try. I just need to flash without wipe or anithing else?
[LG Optimus Black] zogoibi:
Whatever you say, Yusei.
[LG Optimus Black] Yusei:
if you already have v7 just download the zip file, unzip and read the instructions, that file isn't for flash throug recovery
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
BPO is a background tweak written by me that rearranges the priorities of different applications.

By default, quadrant has a neutral priority. If I change it to max priority, I get 2700 in quadrant. This is how. Neutral result is between 2100-2400.

Anyway, InteractiveX works on boot too.

I already said this many times but I'll say again: wait at least 10 minutes after boot to check. In order to bypass LG's applications override, it takes a while to apply the governor.
[LG Optimus Black] garzacorporations:
I already did it thanks.
[LG Optimus Black] zogoibi:
Flashed Nova V7, governor fixed, changes applied, no issues so far. Everything following instructions and working as expected. No need to reflash. I still haven't tried the "set governor auto on boot", though. I'll try and give feedback.

Just a question, Knzo: In settings-->networks-->use_only_2G_networks says: "this saves battery"; but then, I think I've read somewhere in this thread, perhaps posted by you, that you get better battery life with 3G. So, which network type is more battery consuming, then? 2G or 3G?

Thank you.

BTW: Booting is amazingly fast now!! Congrats!
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
I have no idea if 3G consumes more than 2G. In theory it should.
[LG Optimus Black] garzacorporations:
How can I unninstall LG Updater?

Why I get better results on quadrant with minmax governor than smartass v2?

2300+ vs 1300/2200 Aprox
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
3G consumes more battery than 2G, for sure!

knzo said that, with v7 on 3G OB have drained less batt than v6.1 on 2G... extract your own conclusions.

Regards.
[LG Optimus Black] lvlouro:
For when v8?

LOL, just kidding ;)
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Quadrant is a bad way to evaluate a governor.

The best way is to watch the overall responsiveness and battery.

I like Minmax a lot but for battery I think interactiveX is better.

And now I'm testing Smartass v2.

Currently working on it, I think I can release it in a few hours.

Edit: better add that I was being ironic. This is probably the last froyo version.
[LG Optimus Black] zogoibi:
Ok, thank you. Now I understand, and I've drawn my own conclusions: a f...g efficient ROM and tweaks!

Btw: auto OC and auto Smartass on boot enabled, no issues at all. I think this can't get any better, devs. Even if Knzo releases a v8, v9 vInfinite and beyond, I think I'll stay with this! Smooth as silk so far.
[LG Optimus Black] garzacorporations:
When is recommended to choose smartass and when minmax?

In other words, Why should we choose smartass or why minmax?
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
A governor is what controls the scaling of frequencies.

Different governors = different degree of snappiness and different battery saving.

Only time, interaction and experience can tell.

There's not really specific governors for particular scenarios.

Just use different ones and reach your own conclusion of what's the best.

I personally like minmax, interactiveX, savagedzen and smartass2.
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
Dont you wanna release a v7 Refresh with fixed smartass governor?
[LG Optimus Black] jan27t:
I did wipe the data Nova7 ROM installed, restart the phone and says: Error LG Security Team

Now what do I do? Please
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Not worth it.

That usually happens when you downloaded a corrupt copy and flash it.

Now you need to flash a firmware.
[LG Optimus Black] Sobralobo:
Just receive your message via internet, I though before my phone was going to turn off lol. You're message was funny too. :P
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
developer2user interface (d2u) was a brilliant idea.

As far as I know no other ROM has it.

For example in this case it's perfect. I just pushed a notification so everyone can know there is the smartass fix available.
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
This was the new feature in v7 that will be better for you than for us... ;)
[LG Optimus Black] jan27t:
And how? The computer sees your phone. Please Help.:(
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
that's great!i never dreamed of a bunch of code can be used like a client!:D
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
Another report, since i use Nova v3.1, v4.5, v5.8, and now v7, I think the battery was drain so much quickly (few hours after charger unplugged). but overall normally usage, my phone up-time was around 28 hours till 0% battery. So I can't estimated how many % battery usage per hour.

I use Titanium Backup to freeze app that not really used frequently for me. And there's nothing false from flashing v7 this morning until now. on earlier Nova i use v3.1, v4.5, v5.8 never had error with my phone. Or maybe because I just use freeze/defrost feature, not backup/restore app.

It happen to me on this Nova v7, then I kill app with watchdog and re-run again and superuser can apply permission. Also I don't know things about problem with under-voltage, because I don't understand (just end-users) :p

What? next Nova update again? I think Nova v7 will be last version..

but it's fine with me because it has to be much better :D
[LG Optimus Black] Sobralobo:
Sorry, that was my phone.
[LG Optimus Black] garzacorporations:
How we can see that notification? or Where?
[LG Optimus Black] mertzi:
ah so that's what it's for, but i didn't get any message and i haven't disabled it. i have data enabled but sync disabled, do i need to have sync enabled for this?
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
smartassV2 works like charm!
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
It only checks for new notifications every 30min and if wifi is on.

If I had it checking while data is on you'd kill me for consuming traffic.
[LG Optimus Black] KrLx_roller:
BE CAREFUL! Some aplications can not be installed via app inj! In my case aren't working 6 or 7 apps and games. When I install them manually they are working perfectly.

Enviado desde mi LG-P970 usando Tapatalk
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
Isn't AppInj just for system apps? :S

Enviado desde mi LG-P970 usando Tapatalk
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Yeah it is.

Only for stock applications.
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
Problem

now I had problem with my OB Nova v7.

wifi error, disconnected and makes wifi setting hang (force close or wait).

I had activated battery tweak, with governor smartassv2.

Question, are the problem related to under-volting features? or perhaps because any other explanation?

Thanks.
[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
Sorry-sorry-sorry, but in v.6 and v.7 BIG problem with SU. Back on 4.5.
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Read the FAQ.
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
knzo im new to nova, how can i see if my SU is having problems ?
[LG Optimus Black] kajapezz8:
I feel V8 will be great ;)
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
If a program asks for root permission and it freezes, then you'll have su problems.

I'm happy with v7, probably there isn't going to be a v8 until gingerbread comes.
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
If the problem persist (not just su), perhaps I also consider to go back v4.5 because it's best enough for me. I've had best configuration (just for me) with v4.5 and also already battery-saving..

Beside that, i've already patched the su-fixer at the first place, but still the same.. even it has force-closed.

If you had app that need SU, and it won't open, or even hang/freeze, or you had error like i was (screenshot above), then SU had problems..
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
Opinion

To knzo,

I think that Nova ROM update is too early released to public. You need to test a few days/weeks to have stability and best performance. Since Nova v5, v5.8, v6, v6.1, and v7 has to be considered as alpha/beta version. We should have development timeline (alpha/beta/rc) until it really stable for daily usage and can be released to public. You can ask many volunteers, make small team to do the test...

It just my opinion, or perhaps suggestion for next development of Nova Gingerbread. No offense...
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
I release it when it's stable for me. I make Nova for myself, not for users. I'm just kind enough to share it!

I don't have 1 complaint with Nova v7, everything works for me. Only SU didn't once and I fixed it with su fixer.
[LG Optimus Black] haitzo:
I am having trouble with the smartass fix, I connect the phone to windows and run the .bat but it gets stuck on "daemon started".

Otherwise, if I try to copy/paste the nova file into SDcard root, it says there is already a nova file (in fact is a folder)

what can I do?

I have another question and probably is offtopic, if I format the SDcard android is gone? I want to clean the sdcard because it is full of s**t, so, can i format?
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
hey knzo, just flashed NOVA for the first time,

and is incredibly fast =).

i've received ur d2u message while i was downloading my app again, and couldnt stop laughting about the pornography part xP.

one question, how i access the nova script? cant see it anywhere.

"retarded question" where i can find the alarm section xD?
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
its better if u download the app again, and install the last version, i think it already contains Smartass v2 fix.

am i right knzo ?
[LG Optimus Black] shourov:
Yup... U can format the sd card.... It has nothing to do with android system...
[LG Optimus Black] bguerreiro:
Do you have USB debugger on as indicated in the instructions?

Also, do you have LG drivers installed in your PC(if using windows)?

No, but you will loose any application that you may have moved to SD card.

BRGDS,

BG
[LG Optimus Black] borrego:
I flashed to v7 and feel it is less smooth than v6. The phone seems to have more momentary 'stalling' compare with v6. Not sure if it is related to the IPv4 tweak.

I have both d2u and standby battery boost disabled and running the same OC and ultra low UV settings I used since V4.5

I cannot complete the quadrant result submission with HSUPA/HSDPA on V7. It is only possible with wifi on v7. I didid not have this issue with previous nova.
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Read the instructions. Did you follow them?

If yes, you need to install LG drivers, check the firmware thread for them.

Terminal > "su" > "nova". Alarm is in there.

Try to disable BPO. For some people it does worse than better.

I guess it depends on the type of usage.
[LG Optimus Black] borrego:
I am guessing it is related to HSDPA/HSUPA connecting stability. With wifi on the phone seems running smoother. I am using the LG launcher and with the weather/facebook/twitter widgets on

My quadrant score also varies on v7. With lowest score around 19xx to the highest 24xx

I am back to ondemand governor and see how it goes. Smartass V2 does not seem to save more battery with HSDPA/HSUPA on
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
im sorry for bothering u knzo, another related question to NOVA.

LG applications drain much battery right?

so i should get widgets or app from market therefor are more lightly?

or am i wrong?

the only reason im asking this, its because i've flashed nova, to get more battery life, and i dont wanna screw that over with "heavy" widgets that consume more than LG stock apps

im sure u understand what i mean

---#-----#---

other question,

about the governor, what are the differences between each setting?
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
It depends on each app. It's not because they are from Market or not. You can only test all of them with a battery checker and after downloading and testing the 1.258 widgets for each ****ty thing, you let us know which one is the best one for each ****ty thing ;)

Every day someone asks about differences in each governor. I think there is a guy, I'm not sure about his name... wait, it's GOOGLE, that knows almost everything. You can ask him. He replies PM's questions very fast. And it also has a "I'm feeling lucky" button for automated answers.

:)
[LG Optimus Black] gabwerkz:
As they say, Google is a friend, and xda is a bestfriend. :) Tons of info is already at your reach.
[LG Optimus Black] hur8111:
anyone know when GB update is going to be available??
[LG Optimus Black] gabwerkz:
This has nothing to do with nova. Not a marshall though. Peace.

Next month to October...
[LG Optimus Black] netum:
Early in the morning I saw some text on the phone and not understanding it turned off. I think it was possible to post d2u, is there a log for these messages? Or can i request from the phone replay of the message?
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
Hey, open terminal emulator, type "su" (without quotes) then " nova". Wait for 2-3 seconds then you're good to rock.
[LG Optimus Black] yeomond:
To those complaining about sluggishness or low quadrant scores:

Try disabling the BP tweak in the Nova script, it worked for me

Sent from my LG-P970
[LG Optimus Black] niczzi:
Hi Knzo,

I downloaded the Smartass temporary fixer, after run it as instruction, everything 's the same as before, I can't set smartass & auto on boot. Nothing 's fixed, would you mind to show me what's wrong ? Thanks you a lot
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
what's the problem with smartassV2?
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
superuser FC because of version beta-3 is known has this issue

beta-4 fixed it
[LG Optimus Black] CalamitySir:
Developer2user interface was really cool, didnt expect it to be like this!!:D:D Hope when gingerbread comes, Nova will suceed even more!
[LG Optimus Black] kokocf:
why don't you try to fix smartassv2 with setcpu app, just tick on set to boot..., it's working for me...
[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
Nova 7 I see, where 2.2 final..??? :D