yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
suggestion:

ext3 is more power save than ext4

so i suggest file system convert to ext3 or ext4 default,and give a option in nova script that we can convert in need
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
Nova recovery is supposed to use with nova rom only, if you want it to work with standard rom, use cwm 3.2 for optimus black.
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Sorry but I disagree.

Ext4 has more performance and battery than ext3.

Even ext2 is better than ext3 because it has no journalism and it's way faster.

One supporting argument on this is that for example users report 15-20% more battery on Nova than stock.

Either way I can't put this up in nova script because the ramdisk for ext4 is different.
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
This is not true... latest Nova Recovery (CWM 4.x) can restore stock rom backups, but it's mandatory to format one partition (I don't remember which of them) to ext3 because for Nova it's formated with ext4.

Is this correct knzo?
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
when will Nova v5 come?

im waiting to flash my new OB :D

Will NOVA v5 bring even more battery life ?
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Yes.

I can almost guarantee battery life will be better.

Yesterday with light-moderate use I spent 36% in the whole day.

It's already uploaded but only releasing it tonight or tomorrow.

Antonio1475 is helping me beta-test it. If he wants to, he can come here and post some feedback.
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
awsome, can i send u PM's regarding of some councerns that i have about NOVA while being a new user of android?

just for not spamming with useless info in this thread.
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
I have about 33 unread PM.

If the subject is Nova, post here.
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
one part is another don't.

BTW I APOLOGIZE about my "stupid" questions, but i'm a new Android user, so i like to ask the same question more than once, cuz i'm affraid of losing my OB.

BE PATIENT with me :(

I've seen that u kinda guru about lg :P.

Question related to NOVA.

IS there anything giving trouble/bugged in NOVA, or not working ? (the current, and the one being released

Question not related to NOVA

I've been losing my GSM WCMDA of vodafone every night for no reason :(.

I'm using 2G ONLY for more battery life.

I've already tried to use AUTO, but then it turns 3G on, i Turn 2g ONLY on, and he changes to "ONLY GSM".

Android Version: 2.2.2

BaseBand: XMM6160

Kernel: 2.6.32

Build: FRG83G

Software version: v10a
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
If you need more beta testing here we are! :D
[LG Optimus Black] NunoMCB:
rui. I've been where you are regarding the doubts you have about nova. I've asked a lot of things but you have to try to see. Nova 4.5 had some minor bugs but so does the stock rom. Just give it a try if you want. You can always get back to the system you have now by flashing the firmware. I've done that because of a little problem and now I just can't wait for nova v5 to come out :)

Btw does anyone knows a good application like the netcounter in the stock rom to monitor network mbs?
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
Do you mean like this NetCounter?
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
i've heard that was some problems about the touch sensor or something like that.

OMG im getting crazy i cant understand :(. first u talk about going back to stock rom, then flash firmware.

im confused, can someone explain me this in detail ?

i really want to learn
[LG Optimus Black] NunoMCB:
Thank you. That was something like that. But when I was looking at it I found watchdog and I think it's better.

Rui, I did a lot of reading here and at other sites before I proceed to install nova. Knzo did tutorials for everything, so, if you just read this thread from the beginning you will find what you need. :)
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
can u explain me what is a ROM, and firmware ? i always messed up, and thats what makes me confuse :s
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
If you are user of Nokia Symbian ROM = Firmware.

Greetings
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
im currently using a LG OB :D
[LG Optimus Black] NunoMCB:
I'm not the best person to explain you that, but all I can say is that I think you can Google all that general questions and come with some specific questions about nova here, or else the discussion will be a little of topic.
[LG Optimus Black] lvlouro:
Knzo, can you tell me what are the voltage values of the crazy low presets.

I'm currently using those without any problem.

It's to bad that you can't define the governor to set on boot, I always forget to set it.

I've looked into set CPU but it's paid, I tried another app called CPU master but it sets frequencies while changing governor, I could try to set the frequencies in the app but I don't know if it changes voltages as well.

Is there an app that shows currently active voltages?
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
For example. Rom = windows 7 + bios = firmware. Rom update = windows 7 updates = service pack.

Nova = modified rom.
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
hm thanks i think i've got it =)
[LG Optimus Black] haitzo:
Knzo, I used cpu master to set minmax on boot, my question is, if you would delete all the rest governors, it would boot with minmax?
[LG Optimus Black] gabwerkz:
how'd you came up, managed to find NOVA ROM mate? :)
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
És portuga não és?

http://www.androidpt.info/index.php?title=Página_principal

Começa pelo 13.

It's impossible to delete governors, it's hardcoded in the kernel.

1. Crazy low are stock voltages - 8 units.

2. You can use SetCPU to set the governor on boot (look here in XDA for setcpu's thread, it's attached for free in the post).

3. To see voltages, open terminal and write "cat /proc/overclock/mpu_opps".
[LG Optimus Black] ajcantonio:
sorry if i'm kinda off the topic, if LG releases the gingerbread update, do we have to flash the orig gingerbread rom from lg then nova for gingerbread (if knzo will make one for gingerbread)? or nova for gingerbread only?

thanks!
[LG Optimus Black] i04055:
I have bad battery life today...

I leave it at 94% percent to sleep and it spent 28% for 8 hours idle...

I check battery use, but only system that consume most battery. I also check watchdog and nothing seem use much processor...
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Nothing changes after gingerbread is out (unless it comes with a new baseband).

You can flash whatever you want with no particular order.

Obviously it's not like that for everyone or there'd be more complaints.

It's on your side, something was eating the battery. Sometimes it just happens with a wakelock or kernel loop, it's unpredictable. Just reboot and see if it happens again.

What I know is that I'm getting 1-2% per hour with light/moderate usage with v5 which is great for Froyo (in Gingerbread battery will be much better).

Last six hours and a half, I wasted 10% of battery and I played a game for like 10m and had wi-fi on scanning for networks each 3 minutes.

I didn't even have minmax or interactiveX (better for saving battery) - I forgot.
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
And so we already waiting here for the official Nova v5 announcement... :)
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
Check your running background apps, also account & sync app... this is mine (with always EDGE on, account & sync on (google account, facebook, twitter, whatsapp, and yahoo), nova 4.5 1.1GHz, minmax governor, after few hours of wifi & casual games. not bad i think :rolleyes:

edit: also check "gallery" app. sometimes it stuck and consumes huge amount of battery. you need to force stop it. cmiiw :D
[LG Optimus Black] i04055:
Yes it's only today... It's strange... I used v4.5 since it's first published and battery life is good...

I had it restarted now... let see if it solved...

@lesp4ul

I've checked background proccess n nothing seem use much proccessor... except... android system...

Auto-sync is off btw..
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
UV doesn't run fine... doesn't run at all...

Hi,

look at the following screenshot...

What do you see?

I see a OB undervolted to an amazing 4 "volts" for 1GHz and 1 "volt" for 300MHz.

Remeber that stock values must be around 62 or 64 to 1GHz and 33 for 300MHz...

Everything runs fine, the phone awakes well from sleep...

In the same way it isn't possible to undervolt the phone below 300MHz, isn't possible to low the voltajes, I think.

knzo (or whoever knows the answer), is there any app to see the inmediate running voltaje?

have anyone tried some OC (1.2GHz for example) with stability problems, and have he resolved the unstability increasing the voltaje? It's to know if OV runs well, or if it's useless like UV.

Regards.
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
More things to say.

vsel showed at mpu_opps is not the actual voltaje...

Try looking at /sys/power/sr_adjust_vsel... there the first column (nominal v) it's changed when you modify mpu_opps... but allways the other three columns (dynamic Vnom, calib v and calib step v) remains unchanged.

It's not possible to modify sr_adjust_vsel because it returns allways to the last config.

However, with Gingerbread, mpu_opps show this aspect...

official 2.3.3
mpu_opps[4] rate=1000000000 opp_id=4 vsel=62 sr_adjust_vsel=54
mpu_opps[3] rate=800000000 opp_id=3 vsel=58 sr_adjust_vsel=46
mpu_opps[2] rate=600000000 opp_id=2 vsel=48 sr_adjust_vsel=35
mpu_opps[1] rate=300000000 opp_id=1 vsel=33 sr_adjust_vsel=24

This is Motorola Defy's mpu_opps from another subforum... and it seems to have another value for each cpu state with sr_adjust_vsel.

I hope this info can help to understand the voltaje behaviour.

Regards.
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
What about Nova v5? Its still tommorow, tommorow... :)
[LG Optimus Black] zogoibi:
LOLBRICK low values. Is it working? Governor explanation?

Hello.

Just two questions. Can anyone tell me if LOLBRICK low preset is working? I'm on Nova 4.5 and, when trying to set that preset using nova default frequencies, it does nothing. And what are the voltage values of the Lolbrick?

Second (and sorry if it's too nooby, but I haven't found it in the thread): can anyone give me a hint of what are the features of each governor in the nova script? Or simply please point me to somewhere where I can find an answer to this question.

Oh, by the way: I've just donated! You're doing a great job here, devs!

[EDIT] One last thing: which is the file in SD card that I should delete in case I run into trouble after overclocking?

Thanks!
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
Another questions while v5 arrives...

Which Milestone-Overclock version are U using on Nova?

From 1.4.7 they have added sr_adjust_vsel field when reading the /proc/overclock/mpu_opps table if SMARTREFLEX is enabled.

This sounds to me like mandarin... but goes in the way of my previous posts.

Will this stuff run on Gingerbread? It seems to be for 2.1/2.2 android...

Regards!
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Thanks Huexxx, I'll look into that today.

LOLBRICK was supposedly a greater UV (which doesn't have short-term effects) but Huexxx just found out what I already suspected, the overclock module isn't working for now for UV.

I'll look into this asap since it's a high priority feature for me.

As for the governors, use google. I can tell you that:

- Ondemand default governor

- Interactive is a better Ondemand

- InteractiveX is a better Interactive (locks min frequency when phone asleep) - best for battery

- Smartass is a better Interactive - third best overall

- Smoothass is a more agressive Smartass - probably second best for performance

- BrazilianWax is almost similar to Smoothass

- Minmax is a whole new governor and different from all others - best overall / best for performance

- SavagedZen gets the best of each governor - second best overall

- Scary is a strange governor

If an OC goes wrong and you get into a bootloop, you have to enter recovery and wipe data.

But you shouldn't set OC on boot unless you test it properly.
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
Can you give us ETA for v5? Im refreshing this page every 30 minutes. :) Thank you
[LG Optimus Black] dxdiag32:
UV doesn' t work?:confused:
[LG Optimus Black] zogoibi:
Thanks!

I thought that all the "fancy" governor names were your own craft; that's why I didn't think of googling them!
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
Not exactly... it seems to not work... but I can assure that...

Another bit of info into the question...

... real voltaje and vsel are related with the following formula:

Voltaje [V] = 0,6 + (0,0125 x Vsel)

Then, with my probes... I've supposedly been running my OB with 0,65 V at 1 GHz... when stock voltaje for that freq is 1,375 V... far from believable I think!

Regards!
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Since I've just found out UV is not working, it'll need to be delayed until I look into this.

I think I already know how to fix it, I just need to test it.

I'm also waiting for some the latest version of antonio's themes.
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
Uploading and making a nice lockscreen for Gingerbread theme :p
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
be patient please. knzo is working hard right now, doing his best effort to all of us. ;)

and that's a new progress... :)
[LG Optimus Black] Reasec:
Im patient, just tell me it will be out next week or so.. you know.. :)
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
If Smorthass is the second best for performance, what is the best in performance?

Thanks
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
I'm so sorry by the impatient rom-eaters that want the new version yesterday... but I think IMHO that it's preferable to get a plenty v5 without bugs tomorrow than 5 different versions all long today with a lot of fixes...

Regards!
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
AS you can read from knzo's post... minmax is the best for performance.
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Read again.

I think it's fixed but I need go to have lunch.

I'll test it further afterwards. => mpu_opps[4] rate=1100000000 opp_id=4 vsel=62 sr_adjust_vsel=62
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
But also said to be the best overall, then it definitely is the best governor

Greetings
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
Take into account this:

mpu_opps[4] rate=1000000000 opp_id=4 vsel=62 sr_adjust_vsel=54
mpu_opps[3] rate=800000000 opp_id=3 vsel=58 sr_adjust_vsel=46
mpu_opps[2] rate=600000000 opp_id=2 vsel=48 sr_adjust_vsel=35
mpu_opps[1] rate=300000000 opp_id=1 vsel=33 sr_adjust_vsel=24

I don't understand well why vsel and sr_adjust_vsel have different values... for sure you know much more...

Also, inside /sys/power/sr_adjust_vsel, we have this...

oppid:	[nominal v]	[dynamic Vnom]	[calib v]	[calib step v]
mpu 1:	0x21	0x1d	0x16	0x19
mpu 2:	0x30	0x27	0x20	0x23
mpu 3:	0x3a	0x30	0x29	0x2c
mpu 4:	0x3e	0x3b	0x32	0x37
l3 1:	0x1e	0x18	0x18	0x18
l3 2:	0x2d	0x1d	0x1d	0x1d

I hope all this info can serve you to get rid of this...

Should Milestone Overclock app run on OB with nova and OC implemented?

As I said before, the best would be an app to log the effective voltaje applied to CPU...

Very good work knzo!
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
We are all glad with this info! :p
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Milestone-overclock app doesn't work with OB.

We don't have official support from it even though I already sent the guy an email.
[LG Optimus Black] Huexxx:
Bad luck... wait for the support then!
[LG Optimus Black] ajcantonio:
Just flashed v4 and updated to v4.5 a while ago... Performance is fast as always and those Nova options on Terminal are really handy! Just a thought, knzo and to all, I just think the theme and boot screen options on the Nova menu is eating a few MBs. Yes, it's quite convenient to have them there, but I think antonio's themes are quite easy to install. I don't know if it's just me, because on Nova 3.1, I still have around 920MB free and now on Nova 4.5 I only have 800MB free. The AppInj, Overclock, etc. settings are alright.

Not really a big deal because 700MB is still large enough for apps. Just a thought. :)
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
UV still not working even though I recompiled the module with smartreflex flag.

In /sys/power/sr_adjust_vsel the nominal v and calib v are being changed but the others stay still.

The overclock module just doesn't seem to have support for changing Optimus Black's voltages. Might be because of omap3630's smartreflex class 1.5 voltage recalibration.

Nova v5 will be released tonight.
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
Themes

The themes (WP7 and Gingerbread) that will be in NOVA v5 are already updated in Themes section. You can try them now and you can give me feedback in case something isn't good (in the proper thread, not here).

Power Menu for Recovery and Reboot, redesigned lockscreen (love the WP7 one), many fixes...

:)
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
That's a great news :)
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
knzo sorry for the offtopic,

but since u kinda a guru of lg, i dont know who else to ask.

is there any chance of LG OB lose GSM or WCDMA for being standby for too long ?

im still with a factory LG OB.

waiting for ur NOVA 5 tonight
[LG Optimus Black] rashad1:
did you get the messages I sent you?
[LG Optimus Black] rashad1:
Aso, does anyone know where to get the black wallpaper that's included with the Gingerbread theme in this ROM

Found...
[LG Optimus Black] maludroid:
It's a great news, but please notice that it seems like the battery its not well calibrated. I find my phone 'eating' battery from 100 to ca. 60%, then it's quite stable, then at about 20% it drops down very slowly! What I mean is that 1% is not always the same.
[LG Optimus Black] kajapezz8:
Mmm ok, how can avoid this problem when i restore stock rom with NOVA Recovery?

I've got same error of this post
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
No idea.

I'll include it on the sdcard for the next version.

That's not Nova's problem, it's your OB's.

There are some documentation around on how to calibrate battery, google!
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Changelog

v5 [26/08/2011]

Added my Background Process Optimizer script tweak

Added my Background Memory Recycler script tweak

Rewrote and changed many tweaks' values, aiming for top stability and performance

Improved the Auto-Zipalign tweak

Updated Antonio's themes to latest version (v14)

Added a Power Menu (credits: dxdiag32, antonio1475 and untermensch)

Updated market to last version

Improved GPS.conf (credits: Huexxx)

Updated Quasar kernel to v5 (check its changelog)

Added LG notes (memo) to App Inj

Fixed some Nova Script issues

...I can't remember the rest.

Quasar kernel v5 - 26/8/2011

Compiled with latest Code Sourcery toolchain for max stability

Decreased CONFIG_HZ to 100 to save battery! (Increasing it has no effect)

Disabled CGROUPs for better performance (shouldn't be on in 2.2)

Switched TCP Congestion to Veno instead of Cubic for faster internet speed

InteractiveX governor improvements (it's very good now, I'm using it)

VR is now the default I/O Scheduler
[LG Optimus Black] ivaaN:
Wiil be a no-wipe version?
[LG Optimus Black] kajapezz8:
anyone can help me?
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
Very thanks!

Downloading and trying to feedback
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
I'm going to watch Porto - Barcelona, be back later.
[LG Optimus Black] murrun:
have fun!

v5 is gorgeous. very clean. thank you.
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Why does Barcelona only score these **** lucky goals?
[LG Optimus Black] redy2006:
hey, this is not included in Nova ROM :p

asking question, how to change governor in Nova Script? are the manual included there (at running Nova Script)?
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
I still having the same errors:

-FC com.android.phone every 10 seconds

-SIM Card is not detected. I've tried 3 different SIM cards all working correctly on other phones.

I'm from Chile and my company is Claro
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Just go to nova script and choose the option to change governor.

Or app inj setcpu and use it.

Sorry to hear that. Use 2G only, didn't some chilean said it fixed the problem?
[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
Very unstability and 1770 in quadrant again 1990 on nova 4.5._ Back on 4.5.
[LG Optimus Black] MauricioAedo:
Unfortunately does not work use 2G only :(
[LG Optimus Black] haitzo:
You mean v5 is unstable? Can you bring more detail please.

Thank you
[LG Optimus Black] kajapezz8:
My personal buglist

:

- Wireless signal strenght don't show correctly!

- In Appinjection script i can't install Lg memo app

See you later for update :o
[LG Optimus Black] acidr4in:
tcpdump works now with the update u sent me. thank you very much

Have some issues with the market (3.1.3), at first I can download the File but when it comes to installing

Package file is invalid

after that i cant even download apps, after that it says

"app XY" could not be downloaded due an error
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Unstable for you, not for me and everyone else who tested it.

Wipe everything and reflash because that's not normal. I get at least 2200 every time.

In the future I appreciate you do it correctly before posting such comments.

You did the same thing in v4 and after a bit you came saying "my bad, everything's fine now".

It's starting to annoy me.

I know about wireless signal and it's in known issues.

And true about LG notes, it's a nova script issue, I can fix it.

Fine here. That usually happens when people don't reboot after the long 1st boot.
[LG Optimus Black] PaulBort:
For the first time removed Nova... Returned to 4.5(a good backup in recovery). Slower in quadrant (1774 against 1970). The phone at the time of recovery programs a couple of times myself crashes. And then hung on a level place. Demolished.

In install after 4.5 do full wipe in recovery menu.
[LG Optimus Black] kajapezz8:
Thank for your hard work Knzo, another little issue with Zeam Launcher, when use Horizontal grid type and open application view i use a lot of strength to slide left and right app menù...is it normal?

:cool:
[LG Optimus Black] acidr4in:
actually i did reboot, first after initial install of v5 than a second time after my kernel update

can i just load the v5 again in recovery manager?
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
will the knows bugs/issues will be fixed today ?

is there any possibility of saving my LG from factory if i dont like NOVA v5?
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
No, the known issues will not be addressed.

These are:

- UV doesn't work = it never worked after all and it can't be fixed

- LG notes doesn't install in app inj = my fault, easy fix but not worth the update

- Wifi signal doesn't correspond to truth = minor bug, I'm not wasting my time on it

That's it.

Me and 2 other guys tested it for 2 days, it's stable, it's faster than v4.5, it can juice more battery than v4.5. We all reached this conclusion. Now, if you didn't, your fault. Reflash or whatever.
[LG Optimus Black] acidr4in:
So i flashed both roms again, same issue with the market, rebooted just after every flash

EDIT: just tried the market before flashing the tcpdump fix u provided, it works like a charm. Will now flash tcpdump kernel and report

EDIT2: Installed the new kernel, same error as before.

Hope you can help me.
[LG Optimus Black] ruibullseye:
what this means ?

im newbie on this
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
If you install the ROM or read the first posts you'll understand.

If the error is caused by the kernel I compiled for you with the MMAP thing then I have no solutions. Seems to me activating that tcpdump breaks the market.
[LG Optimus Black] acidr4in:
The Market works in other Kernels with the MMAP thing too. So it cant be only that.

Is there a way to install an older or different market?
[LG Optimus Black] antonio1475:
Yeah. There are posts with older markets you can install/push

Start with "market 3.0.27 xda"

:)
[LG Optimus Black] murrun:
i didn't understand one thing. what is the out of the box overclock behaviour. is it already overclocked? or is it clocked to standart 1ghz and can we overclock it via script or setcpu, etc?

i'm not eager to get overclock. just curiosity.
[LG Optimus Black] henrichg:
Knzo, thanks for your very good work. Again all working. Only detection android version in im+ and marketaccess. In im+, push notifications not working, and in marketaccess checkbox for change apk destination installation is disabled. All features required android 2.2+. Can, you see on this "bug"?
[LG Optimus Black] knzo:
Default OC to 1.1.

Can you explain in more detail the second thing?