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[HTC Inspire 4G] somewhastock:
I think I'm banging my head against the wall because the speedtest.net app is a joke. I used it on several unrooted phones, and they show about the same speeds .02-.10 Mbps. I used xtremelabs speedtest and its showing higher speeds 2.75Mbps. Its not even close.

I did some back to back testing.

I ran speedtest.net and xtremelabs on a stock Infuse, Stock Inspire, and a Rooted Inspire.

Stock Infuse Speedtest.net .01-.02 Mbps down, .05-.01 up.

Stock Infuse xtremelabs 4.51Mbps down, .4-.5 up.

Stock Inspire Speedtest.net .02 Mbps down, .06 up.

Stock Inspire Xtreme 1.14 Mbps down, .148 up.

Rooted Inspire Speedtest.net .02 Mbps down, .51 up.

Rooted Inspire Xtremelabs 2.74 Mbps down, 2.8 up.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
The Speedtest app really depends on the server location and the time of day, and it also depends on your location and time of day. Depends on their load. I have had huge variances with results with Speedtest.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
+1

You'd really have to have a "clinical" grade testing environment to even be able to see what impact any radio/other OS related changes would have on signal/data performance.

I stopped trying to use speedtest.net types of things. I use WiFi most of the time anyway.
[HTC Inspire 4G] somewhastock:
I was using them to see if I created an issue when rooting. I dont need to know exact speeds, but wanted to see a general comparison. I was nervous when I saw the .0x speeds and thought I ruined the phone. Im talking panic mode. lol
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
I will disagree somewhat. I use Open Signal, which indicates which tower (CID, with the location plotted on a Google Map in reference to the user's location) one is connected to, along with fun stats such as dBm of the signal, RSSI, ASU. After a while, one can characterize the environment. I live in an area with multiple towers. I am rarely more than 900 meters from a tower in my normal routine, and there are multiple towers within the radius. I can run Test 1, and be connected to tower X, for Test 2 within a minute later, be connected to tower Y, and for Test 3, be connected to tower Z. These 3 towers have totally different signal characteristics, and produce wildly different results. However, after "mapping" the results over time, I have a basic idea what sort of results to expect by which tower I am connected to for a given test, coupled with time of day and the ASU given at the time.

I have also identified one curious "dead zone", and a major intersection about 800 meters from my house (where I go frequently to buy smokes and whatnot). There are 3 towers within a 500 meter radius. One would think it would be "Speed Test Heaven" at this location. It is not. There seems to be some sort of interaction at this location that produces dismal test results time after time, day after day, week after week, regardless of indicated signal strength. Conversely, I know if I want to hit over 7 down and 1.5 or more up, all I have to do is at around 5am, go stand in a particular location, and connect to good ol' CID102. BAM!!!! It's like crack :p (not that I know anything about using crack but metaphorically speaking).

I will also take issue with the radio firmware not making a difference. I have only used the OTA radio. However, when my friendly and awesome dev updates my ROM, it provides me a different (unmatched) RIL. I can certainly tell the difference, based upon my characterizations over time. It''s like "Wow, WTF is wrong here? At this location at this tower at this time of day my speed should not suck like this". Sure enough, the RIL is for a Euro radio. Match up the RIL to good ol' 79HM again, let it warm a little, and all is well.

One thing you do not want to ask me about with all these tests and characterizations is my battery life. It sucks due to all the testing :p.

Just my 0.02.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
No worries. I get crap speeds during the day, but if I go out into my backyard at 2:00am and test then you would think I was hard wired into a modem or something. A lot of variables to take into consideration.
[HTC Inspire 4G] somewhastock:
I know that there are so many variables so I would never question a 1 MB change, but to see that I was getting supposed .02Mbps most of the time was definitely concerning. I dont think anyone should have consistent .02 speeds with any variables other than a broken phone.

Im really happy that I narrowed it down to the app.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
Out of curiosity, would you mind checking what radio and Ril you are using currently. Mike states with 5.1.x ROMs I strongly recommend flashing 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 radio. The matching Ril would be HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM. I am just curious to make sure what combination you have and to see if it actually flashed correctly.
[HTC Inspire 4G] somewhastock:
The new radio is 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2

Im trying to find the thread that helps decipher the radio code because idk where the P came from. It wasnt in the original file but shows up in the about/software screen.

Ill post the RIL once I figure out how to check it. Im at work and dont have my computer.
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
If you have a terminal emulator on your phone type the following:

#su

#getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"
[HTC Inspire 4G] somewhastock:
Wow, Ive been so confused with how people are doing that.. Lol I just downloaded a terminal emulator

It says HTC-RIL 2.2.013HM which is correct per the radio thread.

I read that the P in the radio means 3G, while U means HSDPA+/4G. This is a 4G phone, so I must have done something wrong. Unless the letter switches in a 4G area which im supposed to be in. ***edit*** Looks like I need to learn "editing the build.prop file".

Im grateful for the help that you guys are giving. Ive been reading on here a lot and most looks like jibberish to me but you guys are clearing it up.
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
After I flash the VU updates, the "U" in my given radio changes to a "P". I have to reflash my radio to get back the "U" back. It is something in the ROM flash that does this as far as I can tell, and I am using the ATT OTA update radio, but after VU update the radio firmware always reverts to the "P" version. That said I am not seeing a huge difference vs. "P" and "U" radio firmware versions. I do see a big difference without a matched RIL. Please keep us updated. An issue like that would not make me a happy camper...

Edit: I am vaguely aware that one can change the "P" and "U" values in the build.prop. I would rather just reflash the radio.

Edit 2: :p you've made me realize I've rolled with the "P" for a few days, and I miss the "U". Reflashing now :p
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Simply reflashing just the radio alone doesn't change the U or P. This is wholly dependent on the build.prop setting (ro.ril.hsxpa). Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. BTW I've seen the same results as you, where the "U" (hsxpa=2) or "P" (hsxpa=3) doesn't really make a difference is speeds.
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
Hmmm..well I did change the ro.fil.hsxpa values about simultaneously to the latest update so the values both read "3". The top one read "2" and the bottom one (#ACE RF TEAM REQUEST near the bottom of the file) read "3" , so I just changed them to both "3"...I'll play gingerly with the build.prop before I reflash to check the validity of your assertion :D. I am by no means a build.prop expert...
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
You can also use the attached program, (created by ZikyHD) I am including to quickly check your radio and Ril combination. It will also show the value in the build.prop. If you wish to change this value then you need a program such as Root Explorer file manager to edit system files. The build.prop file is in /system. You would open it up and edit the number for "ro.ril.hsxpa=". It normally should be a number 2 or 3. There is also a thread in development about editing the build.prop file which would make a good read.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=982082
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Just FYI, when you've got 2 duplicate lines in the build.prop file, the value in the top-most line wins. The file is read from top to bottom. First entry is what's used.
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
By Jove my good Henry you are correct. Changing the hsxpa value to 2 again does bring back the U. Thank you for the information...now I really don't expect a bug performance increase...as I have been rolling with this P thing and it seems OK for me...but I like things consistent, so this works for me :).
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Good deal. Now at least you won't have to flash radios as much now. ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
I figured as much, but I changed them to the same values anyway, cuz I'm OCD about stuff like that :eek:
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
Thanks button summarily hit! I like learning...I admit I am subscribed to the build.prop thread but I have not really studied it...it seems so little bang for the buck when I already live in a backhauled area and da speeds is good:-).
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
I see no difference between the U and the P in data speeds...but might it make a difference with GPS? I just walked outside and got lock in under 5 seconds with 9 sats to within 5 meters accuracy....the 9 sat in under 5 seconds I've experienced before, but the closest I've ever got is 7 meters... coincidence?...anyway talking negligible variation here I know...but still a jazz to have one's device perform good :). I like my settings :p
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
Oh, no reason to disagree, because in actuality, we don't. :p

My use of "clinical" was a bit exaggerated, but what I was driving at is pretty much what you describe as having done in your testing...it's about as "clinical" as those outside of HTC's engineering department could reasonably achieve, as far as I'm concerned. :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] somewhastock:
Few things I accompished thanks to this thread and this board.

1. Bt removing GPS status, clearing cache, I got my GPS signal to go from 0 sats to 8. ( I lost the thread where I saw that recommendation)

2. By changing the P, to a U, Im getting consistently faster data speeds around 2.8Mbps now.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
Glad to hear it.

Another XDA miracle! :p
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
Scott, I here by dub thee, "The Prophet" [XDA sword touches shoulders]....
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
Lol. Normally I'd be honored, if in fact I actually did something to deserve it. :p
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
Voice crying inn the wilderness and all that. Someone's gotta do it... :D
[HTC Inspire 4G] sparker366:
I just downloaded a terminal emulator to my phone. The above commands don't do anything when I type them in. Do I have to do something special

I am wanting to make sure that I have the correct radio and ril running. I have not had any call issues but just want to make sure.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
You aren't typing in the # character are you?

It's...

su

getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"

You're getting a superuser request confirmation after the su command, correct?
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
What Sir Scott does thou sayeth is the absolute of truths. A wise man he is. You can also use the attached program, (created by ZikyHD), which I posted previously in this thread. It will show your radio, Ril, and network setting. Just being helpful.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sparker366:
Yes finally got it. Not sure what I did wrong but I finally got the information. Not sure what to do with it lol.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
You just check what radio and Ril combination you have. Usually you would want the matching set since that is the way they are meant to go. Certain radios will work better for certain people depending on the area and the rom they are using.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sparker366:
Ok ril

HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM (Mar 18 2011,00:40:15)

Radio

12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2

Am running the ROM unity and live in AL
[HTC Inspire 4G] g3ismeee:
MAke sure Superuser is assdigned to your terminal app. THat is what the "su" command enables, and takes you from the $ prompt the the # prompt. Otherwise it should work if typed exactly as written.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
Your radio and Ril are fine for that rom if you want to leave it as is. You can also use the ATT OTA radio and Ril combination. Both have worked well for me with the VU rom.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
I like your reply better actually. :p

What a pita is to type that crap in all the time.

Thank you, wolf, I was thinking about tracking that little app down myself, but got distracted by other stuff. :p
[HTC Inspire 4G] Wolf:
You are very welcome. I know that using the terminal emulator is not always the easiest to work with. As many times as I flash different things it is always nice when you find shortcuts for stuff.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
Well, I guess its not too bad, considering checking the RIL is not, for most people, going to be a daily occurrence, but these little specialized tools, prop editor being another,are pretty handy.
[Shift General] trsix:
Need to know if i should have htc sync unstalled when i root my phone using this method? thanks

Pretty sure the answer is a big NO.

I'm going to try this tomorrow, total newbie.

I didn't let the phone update to 2.3
[Shift General] trsix:
traffic

guess the shift forum doesn't gat as much traffic as the others.:(
[Shift General] trsix:
stucj

well i made it to the point where i need to accpt the su request but don't see how to accept it?

i know wrong forum but can't post in the other with less than 10 posts :(
[Shift General] trsix:
talking to myself now lol

made it to root succes twice now
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] XDA-TheMac:
He everyone, i recently just bought a new motorola milestone, and i was wondering about the whole rooting affair thats going on.

I checked out multiple tutorials about rooting , and they all started with the base version of 2.1

My version is 2.2.1

Is there a guide around that can help me root my android phone.

I've searched around, and now i just feel helpless

Any help i can get i will take

Thanks alot XDA

This is my milestone's information

ANDROID VERSION 2.2.1

Firmware Configuration Version

GAS_NA_MS1FROYOTELUSP006

Baseband Version : 3GSMEPU91A_U_91.09.04I

Kernel Version 2.6.32.9-GAFBFC43

W21529 AT il93lnxebld12 #1

Build Number : SHOLS_U2_05.26.1
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hearts king101:
You will find what u need here and here and here

it doesn't matter the current frameware, ALL the same.

Good luck :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] XDA-TheMac:
Oohh allright ithought it matterd

Thanks for pointin that out for me
[Off-topic] jadden:
I don't want this to become a flame war with people saying "ps3 sucks" or "xbox is a piece of crap". :D

I'm just asking 2 simple questions...

Which would you buy Xbox 360 Ps3 or Wii? And why?

Or which do you have?

I have Ps3 I mean all are good but Wii is kind of childish and I don't want

to have to pay for online for Xbox :p

The only downfall of Ps3 to me is ps3 network getting hacked
[Off-topic] SteveG12543:
PS3. Blu-ray player, motion controllers, free online stuff. I personally have a PS3. And to counter your downfall of the PS3, hasn't XBL gone down for a few weeks as well? Thought I heard something about that a while ago.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running a random CM7 nightly.
[Off-topic] muerteman:
I have a 360 for the simple reason it was out years before the other two.now I would still buy it though.the live is not that expensive and I find it to be more refined

And more secure then psn. Also the controller is more comfortable to me.
[Off-topic] azmatic:
ps3 ofcourse!
[Off-topic] TheIneffable:
Tried both systems and I always preferred Xbox 360 just because the service always seemed better. Don't care if I have to pay $60 for a year. I also like the community and the amount of ignorance on Xbox Live. I see it as comedy. Like a virtual Gran Torino. haha
[Off-topic] vetvito:
I have a 360 and I'm considering a PS3. I'm fed up of all the racist on XBL, and I'm tired of microsofts proprietary BS. Ive gone through 3 mics because of wiring issues, I can't add a bigger hard drive, and I can't stand the laggy ass media center.

PS3 has the same games, and does more. I thought the kinnect was cool, but after 3 months of ownership its been used twice, its a gimmicky child's toy.

Sorry for the rant.

PS

If you think Halo is a great game. Get a life. It's great if you've never played anything else.
[Off-topic] Jays2Kings:
The Wii is definitely the better of the three. I unique shape along with remotes for controllers makes it awesome. Besides the Wii is the only console that doesn't make you feel sad that you don't have an HDTV (since there's no HDMI port). And finnaly the Wii has great games like the ones below

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...+ubisoft&ie=UTF8&qid=1310370111&rnid=11846801

/sarcasm
[Off-topic] loele:
playing on station... i think 15 jears. so i never change.
[Off-topic] racerboy3801:
PS3 all the way. The ps3 is a better entertainment system then the Xbox, with bluray and dlna. Although I think hardcore gamers are better of with an Xbox, better online(I wouldn't pay it though) and usually better graphics with cross platform games( take the call of duty series for example).

I own a ps3 and have never had an Xbox, its a better system for my needs :)

Also, never liked the wii. Too childish and I get tired pretty quickly, I know how kinect users feel :P
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
I have a 360 and love the online play and whats $50 a year gona hurt your pockets :)
[Off-topic] ClementNg23:
rocking on the nintendo wii !

beast of the generation man! you can run almost anything on it

e.g. linux distro, play dvds, wii games, web browsing, gamecube games, homebrew apps, music player... possibilties are countless :p
[Off-topic] darkchazz:
None!

PC all the way !!!! :P
[Off-topic] Archer:
I've had PSX, PS2, PSP and PS3, but have also had Xbox360 (a couple of em, actually). I personally prefer the PS range, but that's not a knock to the Xbox. And to people that say they prefer 1 controller over the other, they're like 90% exactly the same! It took me about an hour of playing an Xbox to forget that it was a different controller!

Anyway, you won't get any fanboyisms from me. They're all great consoles, but I like what I like.
[Off-topic] mike21pr:
Xbox 360 for me. I love both (i mean PS3.... Wii, bleh) but i like the 360 controller better, more refined services, and slightly better looking games cross platform (90%)

That said, i know it has its faults, like not having blu-ray, much more limited disc storage that might make devs cut corners to make it fit, and less exclusives (Kratos for MK ugh...)

All personal preference though

s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
xbox 360

Xbox has:

Better more comfy controller

Halo

Gears Of War

As well as COD just like the ps3

Better online service

PS3:

Not as comfy controller

free internet gaming and browser (kinda cool but there online service is horrible compared to xbox

blueray player- unnecessary cause im not paying 30 bucks for a movie

dlna- um my tv has this already :rolleyes:

few exclusive games that arent even that good...

PLUS all my friends on xbox and not ps3 :rolleyes:

AS for the wii- its fun to play with multiple people and play all the mario series games :) but boring to play alone

Kinect- i like it a lot, sure i dont use it all the time, but kinect sports is always fun and a good little workout :)
[Off-topic] cjones7525:
ps3 of course i had a xbox from release date and got a ps3 2 christmases ago and i just sold my xbox in february for lack of use .even tho i was a live member
[Off-topic] C0dy:
I have all three and here's my opinion on them.

Xbox 360 - My favorite controller of the three. Live is good, but I shouldn't have to pay a premium for online, especially when you're shoving ads in my face. Besides Halo or Gears of War, it doesn't have many exclusives.

Wii - Not many hardcore games, only about one big title a year, then it collects dust again until next year. Good for emulation when hacked.

PS3 - I have an older model model with backwards compatibility, so having every PlayStation platform (besides the PSP) in one console is great. I just recently bought it so I can't say much about it at this point. Any game recommendations?
[Off-topic] jj03:
i bought a 360 at launch and within a week it overheated...sent away, came back, same thing. also, it looked so cheap...like a fisher price toy...hate the 360 control pad with a passion...truly awful...good riddens.

bought ps3 fatty at launch, love the dual shock. for me its perfect. console lasted three years before the blu ray lens went. got a slim..running perfect..i will buy the next ps console.

sent from my galaxy S2.
[Off-topic] watt9493:
Infamous and infamous 2 definitely are my favorite's
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmtuna:
Hey I'm looking for an app that can manager the notifications on my phone. When I flash between roms, backup manager gets some of them correct, however some apps the notification sounds come back screwed up and I have to go thru and set them up again.

Ideas??
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00s3y:
Stop flashing so much :p

Have you tried Titanium Backup? I'm not sure if it can do that, as I don't set personal ringtones, but I don't see why it couldn't.
[General Questions and Answers] hualx:
I wanted to see what everyone's opinion was on taskillers Vs. Watchdog.

I've been reading that taskillers are obsolete with froyo and GB.

But Devs still add taskiller's in there ROM's.
[General Questions and Answers] evilstewie23:
task killers are of no use in STOCK gingerbread and froyo but do come in pretty handy in roms because they save u alot of space for apps and whatever else u use on your phone. I also am a fan of watchdog so try them out and see which one u like personally for me its watchdog. Hoped i helped
[General Questions and Answers] rantzzz:
Hi Evilstewie, I notice that the blacklist kill on Watchdog only triggers when the phone is awake, is that the way it's supposed to work?

I set the threshold CPU for the stock browser at 0%, so I was expecting it to be killed even when screen is off, and the browser is idling, but it seems like it's only killed when the screen is on :confused:
[General Questions and Answers] sweetnsour:
task killers aren't exactly necessary and just kill battery
[General Questions and Answers] rantzzz:
The thing is even when sent to the background, I notice apps like the stock browser, quickpic, and opera mobile still continue using CPU. :eek: So I need these apps to be killed automatically when they exceed 0% threshold
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kassim3:
So basically igot my tablet today and i think i already broke my screen.what i did was i pushed my screen into my dock too hard and now i have this kind of leakage in my screen. Everytime i apply pressure on the leakage it moves around and goes to its original position. Do i need to send it to asus to get it fixed or will the leakage just disappear in time

Ok i just realised the on screen keyboard has burnt into the screen, similar to how you get burnt in images on a plasma tv. Im guessing thats not supposed to happen. Cant believe i brokemy tablet in under 24 hours :(
[Eee Pad Transformer General] teifling:
I would defintiely return that unit.

Surely attempting to dock it to it's directly supported peripheral is not abnormal usage!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] juanzr1:
Cheer up bro, just send it back and learn from your mistakes. It was probably defected anyways, get another one and continue to enjoy android honeycomb on your transformer
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kassim3:
Ok i requested a replacement from the website i bought it from. This is my first time returning an item to an internet store. Hope it goes well. Still cant believe it broke, took me ages to find an available tablet
[Eee Pad Transformer General] CalvinH:
Don't get too mad.

Good luck with the exchange.

Regards.