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[Atrix 4G General] DeathKoil:
I am a bit confused about some of the things being said here, and I'd like to get them cleared up in case others are confused as well.

1. It has been said a few times on this thread that if you unlocked with pudding you can only flash back to an SBF that contains pudding. I was unlocked on 1.8.3 and flashed the 1.8.3 SBF before applying the update.zip via android recovery and that worked. So I'm unclear on this, as I was unlocked with pudding on 1.8.3 and flashed 1.8.3 stock and it did not brick my phone despite not having pudding in the stock SBF.

2. It seems that the second post in this thread....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1159950

Has a way back to 1.8.3 for those who updated to GB using update.zip via android recovery, so that is all fine and good. I'm wondering if at the point of flashing that special SBF containing pudding, you are able to flash back to stock 1.8.3, since it would be similar to what I said in question 1 - I was unlocked with pudding on 1.8.3 and able to flash back to 1.8.3 stock without a problem.

3. Could I get a clarification on using moto-fastboot to flash back? The system.img and boot.img files for 1.8.3 were posted on this thread. If those are flashed using moto-fastboot, that would bring you back to "stock" 1.8.3 with pudding, just like the special SBF i linked in question 2 would do... correct?

Thanks, just trying to get concise answers to a few questions I have.

Edit- Link to the stock 1.8.3 system and boot images:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15493409&postcount=128

DK
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
That will also brick his phone sadly :(
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
You are right in your assumptions, RSD a SBF without pudding = brick

moto-fastboot is safe
[Atrix 4G General] demens13:
I'm not 100%, but i believe none of those methods get you back to "stock" 1.83. It'll get you back to 1.83 incase you bricked, or dont have the functionality and want to go back. But it will not be "stock".

#1 worked for you because you did it before updating to the "official" 4.5.91 version. It is this version that does something, not yet known (from what i understand) that causes bricks when flashing back.

Now a follow up question to your post would be, what is the real difference between getting back to "stock" 1.83 vs the custom 1.83. 1 glaring one is the "stock" 1.83 had a locked BL, but it was made clear that unlocking is not reversible (yet hopefully?, which is why i decided to wait). So would having this modified version of 1.83 kill your future OTA updates?
[Atrix 4G General] demens13:
What you quoted bricks your phone? Or it bricks your phone assuming you already updated to 4.5.91

Imo a big contributor to all this confusion is that everyone has done different things to their phones and is assuming others have done exactly as they did. People need to be more clear about what their set up was before making claims something bricked or didn't.
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
Odds are if he is here he used the ota update if he did that WOULD brick it.
[Atrix 4G General] mysticdrew:
It's only after you go to 2.3.4 via update.zip that you can't go backwards to stock SBF (1.83, 1.57, etc) You could flash unlocked 1.8.3 to 1.8.3 sbf because you hadn't yet gone to 2.34 yet
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
Use the leaked ota then rsd to a stock sbf(one without pudding implemented) = brick 100% confirmed
[Atrix 4G General] munchy_cool:
yes because BL seems to have been changed
[Atrix 4G General] GuerillaZhou:
Also, if you use the OTA then flash the unlock sbf, it will give you the same error but with fastboot access, and you just have to fastboot oem unlock to make it boot again.

now my phone has "Unlock" on the boot up screen, i'm not sure if i prefer the lock symbol on the N1 or the word "Unlock" on the Atrix
[Atrix 4G General] princeandy63:
Here was my process:

I was on gingerblur 4.5 then I used pudding to unlock BL, then I went to HKTW build, then I flashed kennethpenn 4.5.91 beta 2 then that didn't work, I was a stuck in a boot loop then I tried SBF'ing to 1.83 and then it was the same; boot loop with blinking red LED. Then SFB'd to 1.26 and that worked, my phone lives. So I proceed with the updates, 1.57 and 1.83 and then used the ATT 4.5.91(DEVS ONLY) zip file and loaded with the method in there using official android recovery and I got it loaded but the 'Unlocked' disappeared so I SBF'd pudding back on to my phone and rebooted. Then 'Unlocked' re-appeared. Then I reinstalled CWM recovery and applied the root zip file and I got root.

I been reading that applying pudding from 2.3.4 bricked the phone, but is it a full pudding or just the SBF? If it applies to previously unlocked phones, I'm lucky that I didn't brick?
[Atrix 4G General] mysticdrew:
No it's not pudding from 2.34 that bricked, it's going from standard 2.3.4 to sbf older version that bricks.

Anyone have success with the factory cable? Looking at the xoom forums with similar failed to boot errors (not the same though), users had success getting into fastboot with the factory cable...
[Atrix 4G General] princeandy63:
Gotcha, so I'm not going anywhere with my phone anytime soon or I'm bricking it...
[Atrix 4G General] redz22:
Is the HKTW one of the brickable builds?
[Atrix 4G General] kimmikolter:
So how can we fix this? What if this turns out to be the official release? If it isn't do you think we can just flash it like we did this build?

No
[Atrix 4G General] redz22:
So I can flash back to 183 without problems? Just being cautious.
[Atrix 4G General] kimmikolter:
Id your on the stock 2.3.4, you can't flash any older SBF yet. Except for the pudding one on the other (where you get the rom from). Apparently that is only for desperate measures and should not be used until another fix is found.
[Atrix 4G General] redz22:
Alright. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] Jnewell05:
So the pudding sbf file does not brick the atrix running the stock OTA 4.5.91? I read in another forum that it does. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=15512147#post15512147 post 136. Did you flash the full pudding SBF or just the 1mb pudding file?
[Atrix 4G General] PanNet:
Welcome to the club.
[Atrix 4G General] PanNet:
I bricked my atrix this way.
[Atrix 4G General] PanNet:
Unfortunately I bricked my phone having PUDDING.
[Atrix 4G General] rickriego:
Made myself "factory cable" ..

I am bricked also.....so made myself a cable and i found the files for nvflash..but i cannot find anymore instruction or guidance online. anyone that can advise me as to where or what to do from here would be greatly appreciated..

BTW: i found and installed the APX device drivers and my comp acknowledges the device i assume as an nvidia usb somethin somethin..now I need some kind of recovery files or...?
[Atrix 4G General] mysticdrew:
Is there any way for you to get to fastboot with your factory cable?? If so, that's step in the right direction and would try the oem unlock command again.
[Atrix 4G General] rickriego:
i havent been able to get fastboot going with my "factory cable"..
[Atrix 4G General] mysticdrew:
:( Were you unlocked previously?
[Atrix 4G General] rickriego:
yes..had just installed the factory sbf and started having fc issues so tried to go back to 1.83.
[Atrix 4G General] Julian713:
So I'm on 2.2.2 right now. I havent gotten any notification for any OTA updates to 2.3.4. However, I would like to get 2.3.4 on my Atrix. Is it safe for me to flash the 2.3.4 that was listed on the 1st page (briefmobile link). After I flash that one, I can still go back to 1.8.3 (or any older sbf's) in case anything happens, and I would be fine?

I just want to be safe and I'm still kinda new to all this. Thank you all for your inputs.

Also I havent done anything to my 2.2.2 besides just being rooted.

I still have to unlock the bootloader and everything.
[Atrix 4G General] mysticdrew:
No you can't go back to 1.83 via sbf if you update the stock version. The briefmobile version is a modified one which allows you to still flash older SBFs but I believe you have to be bootloader unlocked to use the briefmobile on.
[Atrix 4G General] monofurioso:
I have an unlocked bootloader, and now Kenneth's 2.3.4 Beta# 4. It sees, to be safe, or until further discoveries, that I'm on a Kenneth-approved only ROM update path from now on. No future OTA updates, reverting back to past stock images, or trying alternate ROM's. Seems too risky. Luckily, the latest GingerBlur 4.5 Beta is excellent, and stable IME.

It's a shame Motorola pulled the bootloader unlock from 2.3.4 updates. Having released it and yanked it really puts casual ROM tinkerers at risk of hard bricks.

Once we have a bit more data, perhaps someone can create a 'Safe ROM's and methods for unlocked 2.3.4 users' thread.
[Atrix 4G General] fernandoavc:
Just another story to tell :

I was updating and rooting my phone since 1.26 then on 1.83 I did the pudding and unlocked my phone .. then I went to HKTK 2.3.4 with a huge list of bugs ( fingerprint, entertainment center, musicblur just to mention some...) and from there to the Kenneth Briefmobile link gingerbread beta 4.5 through CWM smoothly and easy... I really not confident enough for Any rollback of versions but more than this I can't see why should I do that cause there's no OTA update so far and this version is completelly useful for me... Am I missing something?
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
Possible fix here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15516185&postcount=140
[Atrix 4G General] PanNet:
Not exactely. The problem is that most of as do not have access to fastboot. After connected battery for a while the green diode is on and that's it.
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
The problem that people had was flashing a SBF that didn't have the unlocked bootloader in it. I confirmed this with 3 people on IRC who had nearly bricked. If you flash an SBF without the unlocked bootloader you may get foobar. That being said flashing the full sbf directly is not the smart thing to do now that we have access to fastboot and CWM.
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
Do you think fastboot could be used to flash the old BL Fixing the RSD issue with the original SBFs.
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
fastboot cannot flash the BL. if you can boot in to fastboot you can probably boot in to RSD with VolUP during boot... If you need a SBF with unlocked BL there is one at the top of [PUDDING] op right under the shiny red text that you should probably also read.
[Atrix 4G General] turbogrim:
Little confusion on my part, if you flashed via your AT&T Gingerbread for Atrix 4G

Beta 4.5 link (briefmobile) you're free to teeter between older builds. Is that correct?

My impression is that the "official" moto-server build is where trouble began. I know you mention "How can I avoid this brick" I guess I'm just looking for confirmation prior to reverting back to an old build...attempting to leave any of my own assumptions out of it. Thank you.
[Atrix 4G General] mramirezusa:
I am not sure about that because:

I was on stock 1.83 then I RSD pudding to unlock BL and tested HWTK when I was finish I RSD to full 1.57 (no brick)

Then I loss "unlock" tag at boot right so RSD pudding gain "unlock" tag at boot again then I played for a while with faux, evail and kholk OC Kernels

Then when I saw GB OTA, I RSD again full 1.83 so I can start fresh GB, I applied update.zip (GB OTA) from stock android recovery and I noticed AP20 bl update

From GB OTA I tested the following:

I RSD pudding with out soft or hard brick twice

I noticed new stock android recovery (E3)

I applied OTA GB again over and I lost "unlock" tag at boot (I noticed you lost the "unlock" tag at second reboot after applied GB OTA

I did the re applied GB OTA update.zip twice no soft brick or hard brick

Now running GB OTA with out any problem just waiting a OC stable kernel to tested

So from my experience from GB OTA :

1. You can safe RSD pudding without soft brick or hard brick

2. Can you please confirm if pudding is made from a future SBF than 1.83? I think the answer is YES

3. What will happen if you build a SBF same as pudding but now with 1.83 or 1.57 parts (CG) just to downgrade the BL?

4. If you noticed all my downgrades SBF by a RSD was using Full SBF 's 1.26/1.57 (from 1.83 unlock/pudding BL)
[Thunderbolt General] tswltd:
I installed Go SMS pro last night for the first time because I was having some MMS issues with handcet and the stock message app.

Well, today while I was at work I noticed my battery was draining much faster than usual. I checked what was using all of the juice and SMS GO had used 14% of my battery. I received one text and sent one text over the ten hours I was at work.

Anyone else ever experience this? I can never remember my message app ever even registering a level on the old battery usage before today.

I am running Synergy ROM and IMO's 3.4.0 kernel on battery saver mode if it matters.

Thanks
[Thunderbolt General] supermandroid:
I've noticed that use of any keyboard tends to eat a bit of the battery more so than SMS did. I've been using GO SMS for a decent bit now, and it's always better keyboard or stock keyboard that uses up more battery.

I would check to see what SMS plugins you have running with GO, and possibly change it to GO SMS Lite, which you can do under the settings because 14% is a lot for what you're saying.

A bit off subject, but I've found that the Froyo ROMS are FAR easier on battery than the gingerbread leaks.
[Thunderbolt General] darkrom:
This is my guess. You tried sending a mms on 4g or maybe even 3g and had a data issue causing it to get stuck sending all day. I've had that happen before with go SMS but only once and I really like the app over handcent. Should have less data issues soon thanks to the OTA from Verizon. If it made the stock rom snappier, cm7 will be flying. My data connection was ****ty till I flashed mr2.5 radio.
[Thunderbolt General] 808mauidroid:
I run go sms, just check battery stats, and its not draining any battery unless its in use. I really like this app over stock or handsent
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
go sms doesn't cause battery drain. ive been running it for over a year with zero issues.
[Thunderbolt General] tswltd:
Yeah, you wouldn't really think that a messaging app would draw such an obscene amount of power. I really wish I had taken a screen shot of the outrageous % of battery it was consuming. Hence the reason for my post.

To the other poster: Nope, didn't send an MMS. I received a one line SMS from my wife and I relplied with a one line SMS. I took your advice and tried running in lite mode, but that only helped a little.

After rebooting and fully charging my battery overnight and making certain that I was in lite mode, I still experienced a power draw. At ten this morning my battery was draining again and I saw that SMS GO had consumed 6% of my battery and this is with no texting at all.

I uninstalled. Too bad, because I really enjoyed the UI much more than either the stock or Handcet app. Anyway, thanks for your help.
[Thunderbolt General] allchannels99:
What is the name of the app youre using to check battery stats
[Thunderbolt General] tiktik627:
I don't think GO SMS uses a lot of battery, I've been switching between GO SMS and HANDCENT, I really like the look of handcent(not the popup), but GO SMS definitely is faster no doubt, and less battery I think...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cuongking:
sory my enlish so bad!

i have a AT&T atrix 1.83, i update 2.3.4...

then a flash it to 1.2.6 and unlock and ROOT and RECOVERY ...

but i can't update 1.83 = OTA

then i flash it to 1.2.6 againt but it says "NS Flash Olympus" and not "S Flash Olympus"

I continue plash and Flash fail

" Faile flashing process. Unable to retrieve interface handle. (0x7027)"

my Atrix BRICK ???

Please help me...

NOW my Atrix can't boot to RSD mod ... why ? why ? why ?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BravoMotorola:
Oh no, isn't this the problem that tons of people are having right now? Flashing the Att 2.3.4 then flashing to any ota sbfs? There is no fix figured out now, they might find a fix later. Try to get it for warranty if you can.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cuongking:
9 AM My Atrix was automatically reboot ( flash fail on 1.2.6 ), I do not know why, but really happy ^ ^
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BravoMotorola:
Wow that's extremely interesting! You had the same error as everyone else but you left it sit and it booted anyways? I wonder if anyone else will find the same!
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
View attachment 649556Have anyone seen this lockscreen?this is not the regular weather lockscreen click the pic to see it up close
[HTC Sensation] joemm:
Ahhh what the hell I'll bite......I hope your joking right?

Just in case your serious, on your home screen in the rosie launcher the right button is a paint brush and pallet, the personalize button, press it. Then under personalize display press lock screen, next scroll to the weather lock screen and press apply.:rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
just so you know thats not the same weather lockscreen so before you think your being funny look at the picture it has 5 day forcast and not short cuts i thankyou for your stupid A$$ reply
[HTC Sensation] kurtis.austin2:
i've been wondering this as well.. seen this weather lockscreen in a few pictures and it is NOT the same weather lockscreen we have on our devices. what gives?
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
i know i thought i was the only one who seen this i like that one better
[HTC Sensation] debsterz3:
Thats awesome, now if I can only get that on my phone.
[HTC Sensation] nugzo:
Didnt you see where he said just in case and i hope you're kidding? You completely mis took his reply' I detected no sarcasm or humor, he was just trying to help. you, my friend, are now the one who made the "stupid ass reply" :rolleyes: Good job jumpin on someone who was tryin to help :(
[HTC Sensation] piimp:
No, the op did not mistake his reply, obviously the replier thought the op was stupid n by suggesting what he said gives you the normal lockscreen(with the 4 quick access apps) that we all have n r using, and not what is shown in the picture.

Bt funny thing is that there is a widget for that weather setup tho(with 4 day forecast at bottom) bt just need to figure out a way to make it the lockscreen.
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
he was being sarcastic but he did it before looking at the pic he tried to make it seem like i didnt know how to set the weather lockscreen so read what hes saying before you reply
[HTC Sensation] joemm:
Lol..........no smart ass reply, I didn't notice the forcast on the bottom, the pic is so tiny, and I didnt click it open because I just recognized it as the weather lock screen and thought maybe you were joking since your obviously not new here, I don't think someone ( that being me ) would get 200+ thanks by being a smart ass.....but really doesn't matter, good luck on resolving your issue phonegod. Its funny that my intent gets more attention than your request :rolleyes:

@nugzo, thanks

Just a FYI phonegod, you can make the image bigger next time by using the insert image option in your reply box like this ;)

:D have a nice day.
[HTC Sensation] phonegod:
thanks and im sorry for thinking you flaming everytime i try to make pic bigger like yours it dont ,anyway a honest misunderstanding atleast you clerified it thanks again
[HTC Sensation] jmcghee1973:
Might this be paid Weather & Toggle linked into the lockscreen??? I have it but never tried it out. Might have to look into it..
[HTC Sensation] getrdy:
Well if we disable the shortcuts we might get forecast in their place ?
[HTC Sensation] madindehead:
It's probably an early build photo of the weather lock screen. Before they introduced the shortcuts. Not that amazing.
[HTC Sensation] bonebeatz1234:
Smh a question and Answer almost turned into the Springer show you guys are funny hahaha.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pibleck:
Hello, I got my Dell streak 3 days ago and I love the device (rooted and unlocked already, enough to use-it as a day to day phone and ditch my nexus one).

I do however miss the active development the Nexus one had, since back in my earlier IT days I did some linux kernel dev, I was wondering if there is any pointers to get started and what are the biggest issues encountered (missing drivers, etc) from the current gingerbread releases and how could I contribute.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maximoz:
This seems to be the only gingerbread development thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1091236
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jitin02:
drivers problem is with miui and cyanogenmod

just an info,

cyanogen guys need someone who can dedicatedly give tym with there team to develop
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Ignore jitin02. He's annoyed because the Streak's primary developer, DJ Steve, *****slapped him on twitter after pissing DJ Steve off by begging for a ROM.

You're better off asking DJ Steve himself what he needs help with, rather than relying on secondhand information. maximoz I believe linked to the appropriate thread in the development forum already.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geo.samuel:
+1 WTF LOL!!
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DynamicRam:
join the IRC channel #dellstreak the development goes there
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jitin02:
Font try to comment until u don't know anything

u guyz just saw wat dj said but didnt saw wat cm said

Thats wat ppl lik u do.

N u samuel sala indian ho k amgraizon ka saath dera hai
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I.Chaos:
1. port Meego to Streak

2. enable USB Host mode on 2.2
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Oh, I forgot to mention that jitin02 gets a little touchy when the topic is brought up, as you can see in his response to you and I. I wonder if it's because I told the OP to not listen to someone who knows just enough about ROMs to be dangerous and to go to the source instead? :D
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fards:
pibleck,

please feel free to get involved with the GB code, we do have the alpha code from them, but there's a couple of stumbling blocks.

I'm having serious issues with how Dell are using the sensors code.

they are using a sensors_daemon to feed the input into one device, which isn't how the GB system works, so at a low level the sensors all work fine, but android isnt playing at all with them.

What I'd like to do (but am struggling with) is a way to get rid of this silly system that appears to use "misc drivers" and set them up as standard dev/input ones individually instead.

best to discuss it on irc #dellstreak or Pm me here..

I'll PM you incase you dont see this post.

Jitin unfortunately is one of those people who sees a leg sticking out by the end of a wall and runs around screaming that people have been murdered and no-ones doing anything about it..

rather than going and investigating for himself and realising its just someone having a quite snooze out of the sun ;)
[HTC Sensation] pdxrealtor:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-usb-cradle-for-htc-sensation-217574/

Just ordered this..

Figured what the heck.. even though shipping is light years away.. LOL...

Anyone know if it takes an extra battery on that back slot?
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
This is the picture of it when you click on it.

So maybe it does.
[HTC Sensation] crisisinthecity:
It says USB cradle plus battery charger so I'm thinking yes ...I just bought the ghetto one from amazon with the battery charger in the back. Might have to order one of these now and return that one when this shows up. What I'm worried about is that it says it comes with a euro plug.
[HTC Sensation] Chris19145:
Ordered this about a month ago so still waiting lol..
[HTC Sensation] nxt:
US customers can expect shipment in 13 working days.

Due Friday 22nd July