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[XPERIA X10 General] emijomo89:
I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.

The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.

I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.
[XPERIA X10 General] clixt:
Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
What were the colors originally
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
[XPERIA X10 General] thunderpossuem:
One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.

Edit;

get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.

Support from SE is very much lacking.

The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.

The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.

The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.

It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
They added dithering.

In some cases it's noticeable but it's not too bad.
[XPERIA X10 General] leo5111:
i went from a samsung captivate to a xperia x10, i have no complaints, well one complaint bring on 2.3...:D
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Really you don't miss the real multitouch, 16m colors, super amoled. Screen
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
I certainly dont. Personal opinion...galaxy s way over rated. Sgs2 probably a different story.
[XPERIA X10 General] leo5111:
i like the screen well enough on the x10 and the colors are getting more vibrant, they dont look to bad to me ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ekion:
I find the dual touch with the x10 highly inaccurate. This makes it impossible for me to use emulators and other games that requires multi-touch.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Should you buy the X10 now, in July 2011? No.

That said, it's still a very good phone. The camera is still better than most phones which are coming out, the looks are still one of the best, the screen is still has one of the highest resolutions avaliable (Even higher than the SGS2), and the processor is still fast.

Where it lacks is the software and the dualtouch, that's it. The software doesn't do the 1Ghz processor justice, and the dualtouch is buggy. The complaints over 3G are completely stupid. ANY phone drains fast when using 3G, that's a fact. The overheating as well is overrated. From what I've read it's not a huge problem.

All said and done, the X10 was a phone way ahead of its time. SE messed up bad with updates and support and are still feeling it, which is why 2.3's coming out. Is it better than the Galaxy S and original Desire? Definitely. But, there are better options out there today that can give you more bang for your buck.
[XPERIA X10 General] sam_a200:
Totally agree...I bought my X10 when it came out first here and I am really satisfied. It's a great phone but its past its time, Now there definitely are, better phones, so you should consider them.... Dual cores are becoming the name of the game so maybe the droid 3 or something similar... :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] smoke_weed:
I purchased my X10 recently and I'm loving it .. During my exams instead of studying I was searching for X10's for sale on kijiji .. Once I got it , I rooted it and installed MIUI

Right now I have TripnMIUI IRIS Gingerbread 0.7 and I'm loving it ... More than my HTC MAGIC+ that I had before .. Trust me You will love this ! :D

EDIT : BTW I got it only for $165 Used soo.... Yeah pretty good for how much I'm paying ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ClubDownforce:
Well, those are my thoughts. What else is better in the sub $200 range? I keep hearing that, and I mean... for a used in nice condition device, what's better? This is a serious question, btw.

To the guys saying that I shouldn't buy one in July 2011, keep in mind I'm by no means signing a 2 year agreement to acquire this device. Its a sub $200, used device. I'm not shopping it next to the Atrix's and GSII's of this world.

I've owned a LOT of phones. I'm on my 9th in the last three weeks. Currently in my stable is an HTC G2, of which I'm mostly pleased with the performance of, but I don't get att 3g with that, obviously.

Lets say an iPhone 3GS and this phone are on the table (even though beat ass 3GS' still for for near $275, way above x10 prices) is performance comparable? I prefer the x10 for cam and screen size, by far.

I used to spend my time looking for the coolest new phone, and I'm just worn out on it. I'm looking for cheap used value, in a platform that has worked well for me (Android), and something that stands out from the galaxy s and HTC crowd of android handsets.

Very impressed with the outcome of this thread, btw. Keep it going.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Yes but how many phones have their innards melting on 3G?

The smell of glorious plastic followed by Wlods. :( "i can confirm this i replaced my board and the new board is doing the same thing"

The buggy dual touch is a severe kick to the crotch.

The bluetooth uses more battery than the wifi. << how the hell

For a hardcore gamer & tech junkie.. i am not happy.

And the screen is sensitive to moisture.

I'm a realist and i'm not going to beat around the bush the x10 is not a good phone.

Any phone that dies from normal usage is a bad phone.

But these are just my experiences with the device.

I could be wrong but others have had the same issues

I would suggest you get a x10 if it's one of the newer models such as the x10 HD

If you play heavy games that rely on multitouch then the x10 is a no go.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
You got a bad phone then.

My x10 max hits 40 degrees, and that's because singapore is anyway around 35 degrees, so it's normal.

Battery drain seems fine as well.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
For me, like everything in life, the X10 is as bad/good as you think it is.

There are people who hate it and there are people who love it.

Personally, I never had big issues with it. I used my first one for 1 year, then gave it to my father and bought a new one,

because I was so used to it that I didn't want to jump ship.

That being said, I use mobiles for email, texts, chat, browsing, photos/videos and calls.

I don't play games, let alone 3D or multitouch games, and I don't use Bluetooth or tethering.

So, it all comes down to what each one wants to do with his phone.

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[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I don't have any problem with low in call volume. Even when I'm outside at crowded places... I can hear it all just fine. For me it's even to loud ;)

Phone is laggy, but when you install zKernel with FPS uncapped almost all lagg wil be gone! Camera is very good, very sharp but can afcourse be better... Battery life is great, but can be better I think... But we can expect a better and faster x10 when the bootloader unlock will be available soon.

To make it short, I don't have/had any problems with my x10 while I'm hearing much problems with other devices. If you want a cheap phone, and don't care about the newest of the newest this phone is a great choice. Unless, if the SGS is the same price as the x10 get the SGS!
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I can easily hit the 59 degrees celcius :p
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I remember with my older dumb-phones the in-call volume was CRAZY loud!

But I've never had a smartphone (WM, Symbian, Android) with in-call volume that loud. I don't know what's the deal with this, maybe I was just unlucky.

That being said, I don't have an actual problem with the volume on my X10.

It's not loud, that's for sure, but I never had a problem listening to someone, even when I am out on the street.

Mine's record was 54 degrees while using GPS in the car in a hot day (35 Celcius).

Luckily I have a profile in SetCPU for overheat with an audible warning, so the app automatically lowered the max CPU frequency,

I turned on the A/C and everything was fine. I didn't even have to stop Sygic Navigation. :D

Seriously, I think it's too much to ask from a phone that is connected to the Internet, auto-syncing, running GPS and a heavy navigation program, while in a car in a 35C climate, to stay cool! I myself don't even stay cool while I'm driving during the summer in Greece! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] acmode:
lucky the temp right heres almost 50degrees .. my phones off and it at 50 xD hahaha jkjk

but back on point to answer the OP's question xperia x10 can easily beat the iphone 3g's .. its also heavy competition to the iphone 4, camera's way better, softwares better (at least custom ones for now), same speakers, (tbh i like the xperias screen colors on trips roms better than iphones), if u put a kernal and a stable 2.2 android custom rom there is litterly no lag, dualbooting is possible, bootloaders gonna be unlocked soon, and fully working gingerbread will be out soon ...

i suggest buying it now because the price will probably go back up after the gingerbread update comes out.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
If you can get one for less than £100 then buy it. That's all the phone is worth now and only because of the upcoming gingerbread update. Be warned though the phones are plagued with poor call quality and repeated bouts of some serious lag.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
The only lag I had was because of the capped FPS ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] smoke_weed:
I love gaming .. I still play Splinter cell conviction on my phone almost everyday .. Sure the dual touch can at times be a piss off but overtime I got use to it and still could play with no hesitation , I have sweaty palms when I'm in my room playing because of summertime heat It still works :S

Meh you never know people might not ever use bluetooth like me :D anyways that's my 2 cents .. sure it has some downfalls but It's pretty simple to look through . If your looking for a decent android phone that is really pretty cheap this is something you should definetly look into , or you could go with finding a REALLY cheap arc xD :D
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
the dual touch makes playing games impossible, the cross axis problem is annoying and there is hardly any development compared to any other android on here.

I would recommend a samsung galaxy s for the money...

I'm not saying the x10 isn't good, it definitely is a good phone. I just think you could get better for around the same amount.
[XPERIA X10 General] Windst:
don't get an x10. I thought i was satisfied as our great devs bypassed bootloaders and made amazing roms, but after buying a more supportive and reliable phone, I realized the x10 i had was crap.

att, x10a.

bought it with 1.6, upgraded to 2.1 in december and rooted it. 2011, I finally tried about every rom from trip, wolf, j, ect, and finally the new kernels they found us. They've made the 1.6,2.1 phone that cant acces cwm, do more than sony allowed us to do, yet I experienced these issues nonetheless. Perhaps it was just me

horrible overheating

multiple random reboots stock and non stock

confused battery life good one day bad the next

usb fail, ended up unable to charge it.

horrible service from att on every baseband

the phone became much more of a super saiyan thanks to our xda team

but when I decided to get a nexus s, and trade my x10 for a hookah and mini fridge, I feel like I left the greenhouse.

If you're going to Upgrade, dont be a fanboy. I love sony, always have. I still pick a 360 over a ps3 anyday, and a ds over a psp.

I highly suggest a Samsung if you plan to be a smartphone aholic. Its the Honda of Android Phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Exactly. its a Honda. its boring, bland, but extremely reliable. some people don't like that. they want something a bit unique, something not everyone has. by. September, millions will have the galaxy s2. it'll just become another phone, nothing special. that's why I like Sony Ericsson phones. sure they're not the best in speed, but they are unique.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
yep, go look at the community for the samsung galaxy s, then come back and look at ours....

I mean the original galaxy s.

If good phone = boring, bland to you, then I guess we're simply not in agreement as to what sets a phone apart.

I'm curious as to what makes the x10 so "unique"?

I like mine, and it has served me well, but I also can't ignore bugs that make many functions unusable.

Plus the lack of any real dev/mod community tells how successful the phone really is.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
What do you expect, it's a 2 year old phone, it's going to start losing its user base. But, it's still strong.

What's unique? It's looks. As with all Xperias, imo the best looking phones there are, compared to the bland bricks that are Samsung and, to an extent, HTC.

I never said that the Galaxy is a bad phone. I just think it's bland. And many will be with agreement with me.

Personally I don't need all the power the SGS2 has, and I am perfectly happy with my Custom Rom X10
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
So your argument is it looks nice.

Other than that.. it's a fail. :p

I got the x10 thinking MT will come to it.

I got it thinking it will not overheat.

I got it cuz it was a SE device.

I got the wrong phone.

The x10 fails very badly.

many devices with the similar hardware preform better.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
No it isn't. It's been handled poorly, but it's far from a fail.

Obviously you've not used many devices if you think this is a fail.

What sets the SE phones apart is their looks, that's a distinguishing factor from others which are basically slates. They are curved, come in different colors, and quite customizable. They are not that bad too with performance. Yes the X10 is slower than the Galaxy, but with a custom ROM it's pretty good. No problems so far with it.

My friend has had the x10 since launch and his is working perfectly as well.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
So what?

Go look at the htc hero community, that is much older than x10.....

The age has nothing to do with it, it simply is not a great phone, for modding or otherwise, so people have stayed away for the most part or sold it.

I admit it looks nice, but looks can only go so far....

Also, "look" at the galaxy s screens.... ;)

If you don't play games, the x10 is a good phone for simple stuff, and if you don't mind the lack of much modding.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
-When did you buy the device? You should have done your research then if you thought MT was coming. Dualtouch has come, right? Wait...that's not good enough for you, fine. MT might come with the GB update.

-Oh my god, what the hell do you do with your phone? You are the only real person I've heard with this overheating paranoia. Yes it gets hot, but SO DOES EVERY OTHER PHONE. The iPhone 4 as well reaches temps of up to 55-60 when playing games! Other phones (cough Thunderbolt cough) have random reeboots as well! The x10 is not the only phone, nor is it the worst!

-Yes, it's a SE device. Yes, it's not been treated well, but with a custom ROM it's good! With the GB update hopefully it'll become better!

If you got the wrong device fine, but almost every post you have here is you complaining about something about this phone. If you hate it so much, why haven't you sold it yet? Or seen if it'll blend? Something?
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I don't think what he's doing is wrong....

Someone is asking if he should buy one right now, and omega is simply giving a valid opinion as to why he shouldn't...

I don't get why only false optimism seems to be accepted here
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
It's not a great phone I'll agree, it's a good phone, but it's not trash or 'fails' as many people said.

This was SE's first Android device. Generally a company's first phone will be nowhere near it's best, it's a test, a beacon for other phones to follow. That's what the X10 was to the Arc, Neo etc.

I think it's unfair to completely degrade the company because of the faults it had on its first android device.

The galaxy S screen is nice, but so is the X10's.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
he complains all the time about the same things like a parrot. It gets annoying after a while.

I know it's his opinion but i disagree with it so stated my opinions back.

I don't want to cause a flame war, I just defend this phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
the x10s is ok, minus the horrible gradients and terrible sunlight performance...

I'm judging them based on the lies, etc... Apparently the stock market is too, they are one of the companies dying out according to market specialists

If the arc,neo is their best, I'd hate to see their worst.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
Samsung Galaxy S is about the same price as an x10 since its superseded, but the x10 definetely beats the crap out of SGS in terms of design and camera quality...

Butt.. if you want cyanogen mod support and proper multi-touch with no ****ty 32fps cap. Then your better off there.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
now that is legit, unbiased info!!

:)
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
Thankyou for your rare optimism. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
hahaha I prefer to think of myself as a realist!!

I'm optimistic when the situation demands/deserves it, I only speak how I feel, no sugarcoating
[XPERIA X10 General] japinder:
Looks/design wise, SE phones trump Samsung.

There will always be better models in the market. But at the moment X10 is still relevant & hanging in there (maybe by a slender thread) with the modified ROM's. The official GB update should be a much needed shot in the arm.

:-)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
1. I used my phone

2. Other phones get hot.. but not as quick or a badly as this one.

3. I hope MT does come but i think SE will keep that driver hidden for the sake of the ARC

4. No one wants it and i don't have a super budget.

I can see XDA has been infiltrated.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
infiltrated by what?

you just got a bad piece.

I think its wrong how negative you are, because it skews the perception of the phone and makes it worse than it really is.

also, have you actually tested to see if it heats up faster than other phones?
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
And your perception makes it seem like there's nothing wrong at all.

I'm just mad at SE, i really do not want to spend another 2 months without a phone while they decided whether or not to repair it and then send me a photo of epoxy they put on the USB port and say "it's water damage"

Cuz then i will have water damage in my pants.
[XPERIA X10 General] ClubDownforce:
Lol, someone speaking my language.

After thoroughly reading the info presented, think I'm going to pass on the x10. Frustration is something I wont deal with in a phone, and if simple things like proper multi touch to zoom do not work correctly, well, I'd rather keep my g2 at att edge speeds only.

Thanks for the info, and hopefully this will help others out in the future.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
In other words the x10 is a phone for the most basic smartphone users. The Arc is not much better... Another basic user phone. It's simple, if you want to get the complete smartphone experience, stay away from SE for now. Hopefully in 2012 they'll come out with a true contender for all types of user. Right now SE have their attention focused on first time smartphone users, and attracting the blackberry and iphone crowd.
[XPERIA X10 General] Windst:
okay, for your i reiterate. i'll use my favorite car for example then. a Nissan.

You can take a Nismo, or a 240, and do whatever you want to it easily. Reliable too. theres a broad market for its parts, replacement and upgrades. its been like this since the 80's.

x10 can be you'r Saab. Saturn, Hyundai. Way 3rd party car companies that just..dont finish what they start, and when they do. they do it wrong.

hyundai has some unique cars. but I would never own one unless i needed a sonata as a daily drive. in that case, i would only need an x10 bone stock for call and sms, where it still fails until SE gets srs.

Samsung makes a better more open and reliable product. they are here for the customer. Sony Ericcson TRIES to make a better phone, but isnt really looking at the bigger picture. They used a 8mp camera, timescape and mediascape(which are all 3 that got me at the att store, and stopped me from buying a sg captivate) to get sales, witha beatiful body.

Take any awesome phone, one in the same price range. Throw it into an x10's shell, with the x10's camera and led notifcation light..and buttons. or take the x10 and throw into the shell of a htc, google, or samsung phone...

im glad I stopped being a fanboy, or I would own a play/arc right now rather than this Nexus S

but with all due respect. to each there own. i have nothing to argue agianst.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
Get an HTC at least they have well built phones and are updated. Also bootloader is unlocked.

/thread
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
If you are going to use it as a phone then avoid X10 unless you make all your calls in a quiet environment.
[XPERIA X10 General] WindNinja:
X10 isn't bad :O I love my x10, the screen did become quite unresponsive once I put the screen protector on and my friends were commenting on how unresponsive it is.

I took it off, and my friends were like "WHAT THE HELL, IT'S SO AMAZING NOW".. Also rooting the phone really does change the responsiveness of the screen for some reason? I have a friend who has the same phone as me unrooted and was trying mine out and said "Why is yours so much better than mine.. It's just a better interface, speed and touchscreen.. yet it's the same phone".

I'm assuminig the people who reviewed don't really know about rooting so, maybe that's a factor? The SE experience isn't all that amazing..
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
rooting can't change the phone responsiveness lol

All it does is allow you root access...

You have no clue what you're talking about