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[XPERIA X10 General] tiborprogmed:
another annoying thing :

in Sg2 , the phone application :

- cannot import/export to memory card - only to sim :( ;

- samsung phones are not handling the groups well ! (FC, few days from the google sync !!!)

- extrem battery drain

and everything u have mentioned : no hw leds, and soo on...
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
It might sound really naive and trivia, but I do love the notification LED.

And coming from an HTC phone that had a LED that supported only 2 colors,

I was foolishly excited with my X10!!! :D

All jokes aside, this is why there are so many phones available

*cough* do you hear me Apple *cough* do you? *cough* :rolleyes:

Because different users want different things.

And that's also why we shouldn't flame anyone who wants something different than what we do from a phone. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] tiborprogmed:
"Because different users want different things."

that folks ! :D

it is true
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
BTW...

the original SGS1 also never had this feature...

BUT the devs found out a way to use the screen as a notification thing! its called BLN mod... still waiting for it to work on SGS2... it will surely work... but will take time... ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Hehehe, that reminds me of my old Nokia N97!

I used the capacitative buttons as notification lights! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Yes, I will look to it! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
But isn't it better to have something and choose to not use it, rather than not having it at all? Also, its probably just me (and Apple :p) who think the GS2 looks a lot like iPhone 4
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
yes SGS2 does look a lot like iPhone4... thats why apple so mad ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
In my case, if we're talking money, then no, I don't want to pay for something I will not use! :D

The "Apple cough" was about how many android devices are out there, as opposed to only one with iOS.

So you choose iOS, you choose iPhone with whatever good or bad comes along.

But when you choose Android, you have lots of choices hardware-wise and software-wise even.

It's a totally different community, the Android one, different train of thought. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Im sorry for a off topic here but it will be great to see the rumoured display on the nexus prime, rumoured to be made by Samsung also. Its super amoled hd giving 720p resolution (i forget exact pixels) but its meant to be better than apples retina display ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
ya i have heard abt it...

it would be great!

though u never know wht apple might cook up with latest iPhone
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I don't care, it's iOs!! :p
[XPERIA X10 General] benz0076:
I had the honour to play, root and install custom roms on a sg2 that belongs to a friend of mine.

Man that phone is smooth and fast....its like 2 x10 combined running on cocaine...just blazing..

He almost had to beat me too death to get his sg2 back.

I have to wait for a while untill i can pick a new phone...maybe quad core will be out...
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Its like each manufacturer is good at one thing.. SE at design, Samsung at hardware, HTC with Sense, Apple at marketing... why can't they all combine to make a super phone :p

Yes, that was a joke. I know it will never happen
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
Nice review :)

But one thing:

You said that a single core device isn't a good upgrade from the X10. I think that's wrong. Ok, if you game it's right. But for users that don't game a single core is perfect. Got my Arc since 2.5 weeks and it takes everything fine I throw at it. Even the latest games (like NOVA 2) work fine, but as you said that might change soon. In normal use, like browsing, texting, starting apps blabla everything is instant, fast and smooth compared to the X10 on fully modded 2.1 ROM @ 1.1GHz.

But for a long time a 1GHz device should be more than fast enough for normal apps.

That's just my opinion.
[XPERIA X10 General] cwepruk:
I'm probably going to get this phone unless it's too cheap feeling. I hate the currently GalaxyS Fisher Price phone.

I don't care at all about the camera button, I don't even use mine, but LED notifications are extremely useful.

I would be rocking the HTC Sensation, but the screen is pretty weak - poor viewing angles, poor color, poor black levels.

Currently, my X10, even with a 2.2 custom rom is pretty slow at loading apps and it's hardly smooth. So-so responsiveness from the screen, glitchy performance (decent, but not smooth), choppy video recording, erradic battery life (generally good, but sometimes it tanks). The Camera has gotten far better with the new software though.

Playing with a new, fast, clean and snappy phone is a treat. Seems like the GS2 is the best mix of speed, screen, battery and camera.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
u are comparing 2.3.x Arc (or are u using CM7?) to 2.1 Stock ROM on X10? come on thats not a fair comparison... atleast compare it to 2.2 custom ROM on X10!

yups thats true... but things *could* change with the upcoming GB update... i would suggest to atleast wait to check if at all there is anything good in that update...
[XPERIA X10 General] cyberkhan:
Thanks a lot for such an unbiased and detailed review. That helped me making my decision: sticking with dear old X10 for some time :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I must admit.. i used a modded SGS2 for a few hours.

I was never a fan of the Samsung and the SGS2 is amazing.
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
Ok, ok. But even with 2.2 ghe X10 can't hold up.

But the X10 is a year older so it's ok.

And my Arc is on a original 2.3.3 ROM and is just rooted, nothing more.
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
nice review

bt even after updatin my x10 with the comin gingerbread

i guess i will also get a sgs2 for the spec
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
sgs2 is amazing, that's all there is to say. I don't understand this review at all...

Why pay the same and get way less??

Even if you don't fully use the dual core now, why pay the same (the arc is the same amount) and get a much worse phone that already has an out of date processor?

If you are upgrading your phone now or in the market for a new phone, there is no better choice you could make, period.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
If I understand DoomLord's review correctly,

he did not say that the Arc is a better choice.

He said that the SGS 2 is a very good and powerful phone,

but he feels that being an X10 user and spending that much money now

won't give you the huge step forward that the next generation phones will offer.

It is true that until Ice Cream Sandwich is released dual core processors are not being fully, if at all, utilized.

So, his point was more "why spend money now" not "spend that money on an Arc instead".

It is clear that if you do want a new phone at the moment, SGS 2 is the best option.

So, you misunderstood the review, let me say. And all in all, it's just an opinion.

He never used the word "period.-" unlike you. :p

;)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that many people have upgrades now, and why upgrade to something worse simply because he feels you don't need it right now?

The word period is very justified, read ANY trusted review site and see what is the highest scoring, best ranked android phone to date....

I'm sure they didn't band together to create pro-sgs2 propaganda :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
For the love of whatever's holy... :eek: :eek: :eek:

He never suggested upgrading to something other than the Galaxy S2!!!!!!

That's what you didn't understand!

He said that if you don't have a pending upgrade now,

you should wait for the next generation of phones.

You are seriously confused, or haven't even read the review at all.

Sure, it's the best phone. So, marry it.

But let everyone esle be entitled to their opinion.

At least DoomLord actually bought the phone, you are basing your arguments on review sites.

And, anyway, if you have made up your mind, why did you bother reading the review and most importantly, why bother trying to change everyone else's mind?

I'm sure you don't want to take part to a non-existent pro-SGS2 propaganda, so why so serious? :p
[XPERIA X10 General] Windst:
idk. i feel it would be a big game change. going from x10 to nexus s 4g was a dramatic change for me, my x10 felt like a huawei ascend all the sudden. traded my x10 for a Hookah and Mini fridge today actually
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Ohhhhh so listening to professional reviewers who know tons about electronics (and all who are in agreement for some STRANGE reason) is less credible than listening to one random person on xda?

Gotcha ;)

I did read the review, all I'm saying is this seems to be saying that the phone is not worth buying. I beg to differ
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
OK, then don't listen to that random person,

who forced you to read it in the first place? :confused:

But, for the last time, it doesn't say it's not worth buying,

that's where my actual argument with you lies.

I myself think it's a phone worth buying and that it is the top at the moment

and this review doesn't say something much different than that.

And, anyway, again for the last time, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Respect that please.
[XPERIA X10 General] Windst:
keep arguing for the lulz. we'll get to a point where all we see are the same usernames over and over on side a and side b,
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
i think u might have not read it correctly or might have missed a few things...

buddy i too follow a lot of review sites... before buying this phone i spent a lot of time checking the review sites finding pros/cons/ known issues/etc/etc... after that i personally went to phone shops/stores to try the devices out myself SGS2 / LG Optimus 2X / HTC Sensation... after first hand comparing the 3 devices i concluded that SGS2 was the best choice...

now the thing is, most of the review sites tell u info/specs/details about the phone considering that u r buying a NEW phone and not necessarily upgrading from an existing mid-high end (X10 when it was launched was high end ;)) android phone...

as i said:

also i never said its not worth buying... i am just trying to explain that currently we are in a transition phase (technology wise), where-in the software is FAR LAGGING behind the hardware! similar to the PC issues where a quad core machine isnt going to be much different for day to day use compared to dual core... so u can ofcourse buy the device right away its THE BEST HARDWARE u can currently buy...

BUT AS OF NOW u cant really use it fully cause the software is not in place to make use of this much power...

this is why i am suggesting that u wait for some time (2-4 months), so that the software will probably improve by then and also the cost of current hardware may come down by 15-20%... may be u can even get better hardware (720p SAMOLED+ screen / lower power consuming CPU ??)...

hope this clears the doubts/misconceptions
[XPERIA X10 General] pepy_24:
Great rewiev Doom :-) SGSll really is a monster. But im not that much of a hard user(like most of us here but like to talk crap about sgsll aka fanboys) and duo core procs still arent fully usable so im gonna stick with SE for some time. Again, great rewiev!
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
DooMLorD, I went to The Phone House today, and played again with the SGS2. I took a look at the settings you told me to do. What should I say, I'm stunned. I take everything back about un-natural colors. DAMN! Definitely, my next phone will be from Samsung with SAMOLED-Plus. But I will skip the SGS2. Also everything looked much sharper! A shoutout from me to everyone that wants a phone with a vivid screen, get the SGS2. Best choice you can have because of the settings to change colors etc...

But, a bravia engine included with it would be absolutely terrific!
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
see i told u abt it ;)

btw u should wait for Nexus 3... its rumored to be made by Samsung with HD 720p SAMOLED+

also dont bother too much abt "Bravia engine"... the guys at SGS2 forums are working on finding a way to control the contrast/sharpness settings!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Yes I heard about it. I can't wait for it, but still I love also the bravia engine that makes everything have more detail... XD!
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
After thinking a lot I decided to skip SGS2. :) My next device will surely a Nexus for sure. Maybe they will just put SAMOLED+ on SGS2 lol

Sent from my X10i
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
Doom:

You or someome in your family has an Arc, or am I wrong?

Is there a big difference in day to day use between the SGSII and the Arc?

Saw a SGSII vs Arc vid on youtube and there wasn't a big difference, sometimes the Arc opened some apps faster :D
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
ya my brother is currently using it...

nah... SGS2 is WAY FASTER...

good decision! just wait for some time.. may be Android 4.0 (Ice-cream sandwich) will come out more polished and more capable for handling the insane amounts of processing power of this hardware... i really hope they can tap into the gpu for accelerating the android UI..
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
i hav heard rumours that nexus 3 might be made by lg
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I hope not!!
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-nexus-3-coming-late-2011-with-android-4-0-ice-cream-20110711/
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
Ah, okay.

Anyway, I wanted the Arc, so it's the right phone for me.

And I'm a se fanboy :D
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
hey doom lord.

I hear some SGS2's use the Mali 400 GPU where as other use Tegra 2.

is this true?
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
there are multiple version of SGS2 (as is the specialty of Samsung)...

as of now Internationally there is GT-9100 version which has Mali-400 GPU/1.2Ghz Exynous chip dualcore Cpu...

there is also a version GT-9103 which is expected to ahve Terga2 (clocked at 1Ghz dual core) this model will probably be releasing in USA from wht i read...
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Also, the one using the Tegra 2 to will be a bit fatter not the 8.5mm, will have 4.2 inch screen with Super Clear LCD.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Then that is what i am going to buy.

I have a buddy in the USA that wont mind sending me one.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
It will not be as good as the SAMOLED+ version :p
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
OMG!

CHECK THIS JUICY BIT OF RUMOR:

http://www.gsmarena.com/14_ghz_dualcore_sony_ericsson_xperia_duo_pressshots_leak-news-2883.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/14_ghz_dualcore_sony_ericsson_xperia_duo_pressshots_leak-news-2883.php
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Very impressive device wish it wasnt sooo big 4-4.2 inches wouldbe a good size but 4.5 is definately overdoing it
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
hahaha... they planning a Sept launch!!! again SE are failing an falling behind... by the time its released globally the next gen chipsets (CPU/GPU)/battery/display technology would have already arrived in market... this Dual Core phone should have been released atleast one month back (mid June)... already most leading manufacturers have dual core phones.... how can SE expect to compete if they are lagging behind in technology and launching period? so many manufacturers had started rolling out dual core phones since January/February 2011!
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Lol they need to priorize or they will be crushed

I dont understand why they are soo slow
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
To big for me... Why are they actually slow, it has some amazing features. But still they are late with a dual-core processor, but once they get enough money they will be faster with better phones. Maybe they are waiting for android that is optimized for dual-core? Maybe they wait for quad-core? Who knows... Maybe they have a good reason for it? This phone has not been official announced, so we should better prevent a discussion like this :p
[XPERIA X10 General] dante-fu:
This pre-GB fever is really getting onto you guys. You would believe just anything they would throw on you.

It screams fake! See the top of the phone. Half-round edges? Really? Is that that from iPhone?

Be strong!
[XPERIA X10 General] theeedy:
there is no (and never will be) any unlocked bootloader for our X10's.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Who said... ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
:mad:

Just what we need a nice hard thinking positive attitude.

Keep it up.

"sarcasm"
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
As per usual.....

I think those stock market predictions are correct, I bet you can say goodbye to SE in 2012.

Unless they do something quick, and I mean something big (and different, instead of releasing 10 variations of the same phone), they are destined for failure
[XPERIA X10 General] viulian:
I read the review, and I've also played with few since a couple of my colleagues already bought the S2.

I say that the screen is a gamble (some have a very warm color temperature) and still it lags a bit (if you move fast around the menus - probably is caches a lot of things, but you can still catch the phone by surprise).

To OP: do you still say it doesn't lag at all ? It does feel smoother than X10 - but I just don't want to pay 500 euros yet - I'll wait till they drop (Arc appeared at 480 and now its down at 420. For now, X10 does the job and plays the games.

What I really like in S2 (and I think it worth mentioning) is that the unlock is more natural with the unlock button to the side (like in Nokia N8). No more groping of the phone.

I don't like that is big, I mean I can't even play a card game on X10 with one hand only. Maybe X10 with better battery, camera + flash and faster CPU would be ideal ..
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
dude i have around 130+ apps installed + live wallpaper + tons of apps syncing it DOESNT LAG!
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
agreed, I have played with them a lot and there was no lag whatsoever, even with TONS of stuff open.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtbk9999:
Exactly my thought.. just look at how smooth are Iphone4 and all WP7 phones with single core processor.

also, the quality of more than 50% of Android apps are just..MEH and with all the lawsuits brought up against recently,

I might switch to a mango WP7 if there are some nice looking devices coming in the next few months, such as Fujitsu or Nokia sea ray.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I can't stand ios, and wp7 is nice but I think would bore me a bit.

Too bad nokia is tossing meego, looks incredible
[XPERIA X10 General] viulian:
Maybe I was too harsh when I said SG2 lags ... Sorry for the misunderstanding!

I ment to say that I did saw it stutter shortly in the menus if you go out of an application and immediately go into "Settings" and start to pan around. The first 'flick' around was not that smooth, but it catches up quick after that. This is what I wanted to say..
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I got a chance to play with it today (finally releasing in Canada).. and yes, its really really fast, no lag whatsoever.

But I guess its just a personal thing, the Galaxy S line never really appealed to me. The great screen is made useless by crappy Touch Wiz with its cartoony icons.. The screen is more or less as responsive as the Arc's (I think it has 10 touch points enabled, but seriously.. even the Arc's 4 is overkill) The weight is the same as the Arc's, I guess Samsung focused more on putting high end hardware in it rather than design. For an X10 user who wants a good looking phone.. I'd say wait a few months :p

Again, all the above stuff is MY opinion
[XPERIA X10 General] iDarkyVM:
Hi pngface,

I totally agree with you, the Galaxy S II is a very fast not lagging phone. But it can be better, the full power of the hardware in the phone is not being used yet. But I have learned one thing, never buy a phone with a crappy plastic back cover. So does the Galaxy S II, such a powerful phone with crappy plastic for a very high price. :D

I will wait till Sony releases dual-core with a nice design, you can't expect a nice design from HTC and maybe if Samsung comes with a nice design I will buy a Samsung. But only, if the phone has software higher then Gingerbread at the release. Gingerbread is not optimized for dual-core.

So just like, pngface said, wait a few months till the full beast of dual-core will be unleashed. It's a little bit waste of money, to get all the newest stuff already when there is something big coming, and I think even better then what we've got now.

Regards,

iDarkyVM
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
the x10 has a plastic back cover lol...

I'm waiting a little bit until the sgs2 drops in price I think, then I'll probably snag it
[XPERIA X10 General] iDarkyVM:
Hi scoobysnacks,

Forgot to say that I learned it from my x10.

Regards,

iDarkyVM
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
Okay, it's my turn to give some first impressions:

Holy shiet it's thin! A lot thinner than I expected it to be, considering that I thought the X10 was thin already. Also, holy shiet the screen! Simply put, it's gorgeus. The X10's screen just holds no candle to it.

The second thing that hit me was that it's LAG FREE. Like, completely, utterly lag free. When you're used to your phone lagging in every single operation from scrolling down the menus to watching a video, this feels almost unreal. :cool: Only thing I don't like at the moment is the icon style Samsung opted to use. It looks cheap and stuff. This phone coupled with the UI style from Sony would be _awesome_.

The all-plastic build doesn't bother me since the X10 is all-plastic too. Also I really like how light it is, especially compared to the X10, and the texture they used in the back cover provides nice grip.

These are of course first impressions, and to be fair I was extremely frustrated by my X10 which gives the SGSII an unfair bias. I'll probably do a more thorough "review" after I've gotten used to the device and probably after the X10 has received it's gingerbread treating just to be fair.

Without root and all the stock apps installed I got 3340 from Quadrant Standard.
[XPERIA X10 General] tuner520:
Scoob, if Shaggy is gonna buy you the SGS2, let him, sgs2 is blah blah blah awesome. If you need the sell the Monster Machine Van and all your Scooby Snacks to get it now, relax cuz its not too late to buy another phone in the future and the X10 still rocks with 2.3 coming up. I agree that the name "Doomlord" sounds evil, but it don't mean you bite at him Scoob, he's been good to many on this forum, just look at his thanks meter.

Anyways I played with the Docomo SGS2 and performance was great. So I 'm gonna wait for x10 2.3 then make my decision and sgs2 is a valid candidate.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
Haha, best phone in the world, but the only CON is no qHD display...

Anyway, Iphones and Apple are going DOWN!
[XPERIA X10 General] julio_ton:
Thanks great review B-)

Enviado desde mi X10i usando XDA Premium App
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
The X10 battery is quite good...i don't know why people don't like it :\. I mean, it regularly lasts me 2-3 days, longer than my dad's iPhone which is allegedly the smartphone with the best battery.

I agree the flash is crap though, but the camera is still great even today.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
2-3 days? you must barely use your phone