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[HTC EVO 3D] Zabalba:
Based off what the internet has to say, Alvarion and Clear/Sprint are not providing WiMax service together.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I'd be too tempted to pull some of those exposed wires.
[HTC EVO 3D] DeMiNe0:
That looks like a front for a Join Sprint/NATO missile silo.
[HTC EVO 3D] aronslusa:
Agreed.. How better to disguise some of our world-wide arsenal than to put cell system stuff on it :D lol

Cool find though
[HTC EVO 3D] funeralplanner:
I just went back by and there are trucks there with a 4s on them. I will stop and chat with them. I'm sure they will tell me who they are contracting for. And maybe they have nothing to do with that site. Can u search fcc licensing with an intersection? I'm in Greeville Oh.
[Thunderbolt General] psufan5:
What will happen? Will the phone activate just like on AT&T? I know you cant switch back and forth with an iPhone since its all 3G CDMA etc... but will the sim chip change that? Can you hot swap?
[Thunderbolt General] what25:
It should, from what I heard, work like any other GSM phone.

So yea, your SIM should make you be able to make calls, text and data on the Charge.
[Thunderbolt General] stayin100:
Yes you are correct
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
You still must register the device in their system. However, once you do, its all activated.
[Thunderbolt General] loonatik78:
Is there a reference, like a white paper or a tech spec that can actually answer this question? This Tbolt is not the first Verizon phone I've had with a SIM card, and just like this thing, they worked just fine without the thing. How do calling functions transfer with the card when it has nothing to do with the SIM card or LTE?
[Thunderbolt General] dms76:
Per Verizon Website:

http://support.vzw.com/clc/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html

Yes. You may activate any 4G LTE device that has been certified by Verizon Wireless to be compatible with our 4G LTE network, including devices not purchased directly from Verizon Wireless. Simply activate your 4G SIM card on a Verizon Wireless price plan.

I don't see anything that say you have to activate the device only the sim card.
[Thunderbolt General] H3Dude:
I have done this numerous times. Just insert SIM and you can instantly make a test call.
[HTC EVO 3D] arozer:
(Reference: Data cap = the amount of bytes you can d/l on the network.)

First AT&T capped at 2GB,

then Verizon capped at 2GB.

Do you think Sprint is next to put a data cap?

Just curious if anyone's heard anything. Cuz I'm switching to Revol if so. Lol.

Also:
[HTC EVO 3D] Bigjim1488:
Haven't heard anything but it's only a matter of time I think.
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
I also think it will happen eventually, especially if Sprint ever gets the iPhone and we get a huge influx of users.
[HTC EVO 3D] zone23:
They will since people insist on using tethering for free.
[HTC EVO 3D] hupo224:
lol reddit
[HTC EVO 3D] MordyT:
Where I live, they won't need to. St a standard 3G rate of 47kbps, you can't exceed a few gigs a month...

Via my HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] rtbluver:
I dont think they should, plus if they did we could protest it and get granfathered in.
[HTC EVO 3D] splat matt:
At this time it wouldn't make much sense for Sprint to have a data cap. They are a distant third as far as customer base here in the U.S. Placing a data cap would only hinder their ability to woo new customers away from the competition.

Will they eventually place data caps on their mobile networks? That depends on several factors

1) If they get the iPhone and even then it will would occur at least minimum of year after the T-mo merger with AT&T is finalized. Why? Because they will need more money to provide these data services and the iPhone will surely add more customers to Sprint as long as they can offer something the other carriers cannot. Such as unlimited data plans.

2) If the demand for alternative home & business Internet increases with their recent acquisition of LTE bandwidth. LTE provides faster speeds and it is the new promising wireless data technology. It could be used to encourage more customers to enter contract with Sprint by bundling their cell customers with home or business Internet services. The encouragement to bundle could be

A) greater caps than the competition at a similar market competitive price

B) one internet plan that cover data between mobile products and home/business Internet

Right now sprint is actively trying to get businesses to switch from their T1 to sprints business class wimax Internet. I believe this to be an experiment for sprint to workout problems before trying to implement something on a larger scale with LTE.

In any case data caps will come, but given sprints current business model it will be affordable and existing data plans will be grandfathered with unlimited data. Grandfathered until the consumer makes a plan change motivated by cost, additional services or technology (like a new phone) that requires data delivery (LTE for e.g.) not defined in their current aggreement.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
Since Sprint is touting how they don't have caps in advertising right now, I don't see it happening in the immediate future. As someone mentioned, when the iPhone comes to Sprint that may change.
[HTC EVO 3D] JoeBarg:
Maybe when the lightsquared thing kicks in with LTE sprint might. I use data non stop, netflix once or twice a week, and stream music sometimes and I'm no where near 2gb. I hope sprint keeps it like this though. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] DeMiNe0:
Ya..... I don't think sprint really has to worry about capping it. Their 3g speeds in many area's aren't good at all. Mine in NYC is only 510k down and 460k up.
[HTC EVO 3D] arozer:
Damn. Thanks for taking time to give a detailed explanation. All that makes sense (3.0, haha).

Much appreciated.

Anyway, well I hope they don;t cap it anytime soon because I really dont wanna have to switch to a carrier like Revol.
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
why would you have to worry about switching? I mean you are already locked in, and probably be unlimited as long as you have your account and dont try to change your rate plan to save money.

If verizon let people grandfathered in, even their 3g customers, and then ATT did it even after people renewed their contract. I really dont think sprint will do any different.
[HTC EVO 3D] rrsweet:
Do I think so? Yeah. DO I see it happening in the next 5 years? NOPE! It's a major selling point for them now. MAJOR selling point. If/When they get the iPhone it'll be even bigger. as of right now I see that and their line up of phones being the thing that keeps them in this provider fight and keeps them alive. Once they have their LTE up and running, and we have even faster 4G with iPhone, and the top line of android phones they are going to be hard to say no too, for every other iphone and android operator out there. Sure their service sucks in spots, and their customer service at times is terrible, BUT I honestly think I can over look that. for everything else they are offering. But once they have a bigger share of the market and start making big boy money. Yeah of course they'll cap it. It's industry standard now.
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
What most people don't understand is that Sprint DOES have a data cap of 2gb on 3G. It's only 4G that is unlimited.

However, I'm guessing most people are like me and have very limited access to 4G or they prefer not sucking their battery dry by running 4G all day.

Do I think they will eventually cap 4G... Probably, once they either get larger or all other carriers do it. Otherwise they might offer an "unlimited data" plan for a insane price like $80-100 a month.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
As was discussed a lot prior to the Evo4G's release and after and I have clarified it over the phone with tech support and in person with multiple people both "with it" and "way the **** out of it" that part of that $10 enhanced data service fee or whatever the hell its called will also enable us to have 'unlimited 3G' use.

Now, even though I am defending it and have asked many people at all levels and been told "yes that's true" I still don't believe it.....I believe there is that invisible 5g cap still....it was never 2gb...that's everyone else's tierd plans upper-mid-tier beyond which gets insanely pricey.

that said, I have also obliterated that cap before. Def done over 20gb a month on many many occasions...never heard a word.

Oh yeah, and we already are on an $80-$100 unlimited plan...
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
Maybe it was 5g, but I was told by multiple reps on the phone and at the store that the 3g is capped. I was told the $10 addition WAS for 4G phones only, then they made it for all smartphones.

When I was saying they might increase the price for unlimited, I didn't mean with data/voice/text. I'm talking JUST data...like Verizon's $80 for 10gb data crap.

Don't worry, Sprint will get the money every other carrier gets...one way or another the customers will suffer. I remember a time when technology improved it got cheaper. It seems the cell industry is one of the few that doesn't buy into that concept. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] austontatious:
Source?

Dan Hesse says otherwise:

http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1818

But I honestly don't think they will cap their data. I think that by the time Sprint's market share gets big enough that they could risk alienating their customers, technology will be advanced enough to not need data to be throttled or limited. I could see them only offering truly unlimited data if, say, you bundled it with home wimax or something similar. But the cost of data continues to go down, in the near future a data cap will be as antiquated as dial-up.
[HTC EVO 3D] luckyzac:
I sure hope they don't. Feels like we are moving backward, by having caps...
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
See: AT&T 30 years ago

While it is slightly different situation back then as Bell Labs certainly developed and spread technology far and wide and it was typically rather affordable--they shut everyone else out of the market. They weren't destroying technology through their monopoly, they were destroying a market for anyone else. Want a different brand phone in your house? No. Want a different color phone? No problem, as long as it's black. Want to use a fax or modem? Pay a $30 fee for no reason and buy our acoustic coupler. Modular wall plug? No, hardwired.

Now we have 4 companies--soon to be 3...and if Sprint doesn't get bought by Google soon Verizon is going to take them over--that's Sprints main beef with the Tmobile deal so far as I see it. No theft, but, they will be bought out of the market out of their own control.

As much as this sucks Sprint is the underdog in all of this, thus the closest thing we have to a "good guy"...and unfortunately while the other companies are trying to squeeze us for all they can while ignoring their infrastructure and failing to advise humanity who wants 'more bandwidth' that there ISN'T more bandwidth and without a tremendous technological and/or bureaucratic breakthrough is impossible to 'create'...

Europe really has us beat on that front. Buy a phone, sure it costs full price--but it's yours. You negotiate a deal, plop in your sim and off you go. Want a new phone? They aren't on 'carriers', the SIM is...pop it in and go. Sure, you can get a subsidized phone on a contract but that's about at classy as getting a GOphone so far as I understand it...sure, it gets the job done and is some people's only option, but, eww....and that's to mention nothing of them being united on a GSM standard....I don't give a **** what standard we unify on, but, it'd be nice if we did and perhaps, maybe--JUST MAYBE--we should do what the rest of the ****ing world is doing for the simple matter of, oh, I don't know, THE REST OF THE ****ING WORLD IS DOING IT?

/rant

Sorry...
[HTC EVO 3D] thecalip:
I am for per byte billing. That mean if they charge $20 for 2 gb, and i only use 100 mb, then they should refund or credit me $19 for the next bill.

This is only fair. I don't understand why people accept you are bill X amount for usage up to Y. People should demand per byte billing if there is a so call cap.

After all, those under usage month that I didn't get refund why should I have to pay an over usage month ?
[HTC EVO 3D] thecalip:
We will get a standard. That's after Verizon snap out Sprint and then AT&T and Verizon form a partnership call Ma Bell 2.0.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
So if you go to mcdonalds and buy your kid a happy meal and he or she only eats 2 out of the 4 chicken nuggets and half the fries you want to return the rest for a refund?

Ok now imagine your son or daughter is obese and eats all of it.. then runs in the back and eats another 25 nuggets... You don't want to pay for it?

Food vs data usage isn't the best comparision but its called a "data package" for a reason

Use some of it or all of it... Go over pay more

3D > iClone
[HTC EVO 3D] stretched:
The non capped data is their advantage.. they shouldnt stop it.
[HTC EVO 3D] weidnerj:
I complained (sucessfully) to dan@sprint.com about having to pay the $18 Evo 3D fee, and they were totting that they are the only carrier that doesn't have a data cap currently. That the $18 fee well, I should be happy to pay it for their services that I pay for monthly. Also noticed that T-mobile has a family plan out now, 2 lines at $69.99 per line unlimited (and 2 gig of data). Sprint has 450 minutes for that price and then we pay an additional $10 for unlimited data. Actually T-mobile might have a better plan for the price today...
[HTC EVO 3D] fixxxer2008:
sprint will follow suit just as verizon did. thank god my plans do not change until my 2 year is up.
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
What's this? They never told me about a fee like this. I knew about the $10 one which they warned me about again...but not $18.
[HTC EVO 3D] weidnerj:
When you got your Evo 3D, the store should have printed off an invoice showing $18 for Sprint to do their job and activate the phone. If you ordered it online, then the fee is waived. This was the first time in 12 years that I ever was charged a fee to activate the phone. See the E-mail below:

"Thank you for contacting Dan@Sprint.com. I understand your frustration

in regards to the 18.00 upgrade fee and have removed it from your

account. Your remaining balance is 88.05.

While we certainly agree that you are a valued customer, the upgrade fee

is being charged on all new activations and upgrades. We feel that this

is fair especially considering the value of our plans compared to other

carriers. As of today, Sprint is now the only national carrier to offer

truly unlimited data. If you will compare the pricing of our plans with

other carriers I'm sure you will agree.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Linda G.

Dan@Sprint.com

Original Message Follows:

------------------------

Sprint,

I just got off the phone with the Sprint CSR Bill that was unable to

assist me in getting the $18 upgrade fee when I got my Evo 3D on 24 June

2011. He tried his best to get the fee waived even going to his

supervisor but due to recent Sprint policy changes couldn’t.

- I am a gold member and have been with Sprint since 1999 (12 years) –

corporate (military) / SERO / Friends and Family, and I have never been

late with my payment.

- I have NEVER paid the $36 activation fee for any phone upgrades in the

last 12 years.

- If I had ordered the phone online and had it mailed to me, the fee is

waived.

Considering that it is $18 for a 24 months contract, that works out to

be 75 cents a month, and for 75 cents a month increase is it worth

alienating Sprint customers? To me it is hard to pay an activation fee

at all, considering that we have the choice of the phone companies that

we want to use, and that should be included in the monthly cost and not

an additional fee."
[HTC EVO 3D] MRBULLRED:
Mine are always under 150kbs.. I would love to hit 500....
[HTC EVO 3D] qipengart:
I doubt it. Sprint is different than AT&T and Verizon! I just switched to them man.
[HTC EVO 3D] aronslusa:
Activation?

I have the same fee on my bill, don't know if its reoccurring yet though.
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
Ahhh...that's not an Evo 3D fee, that is their standard activation fee. Wouldn't have mattered what phone we got.

However, I was told that if I did it online I would not have an activation fee charged. So I bought mine online from Sprint. If they charge an activation fee I have a recording of the supervisor I talked to telling me there wouldn't be a fee. So I'm getting that waived.
[HTC EVO 3D] firemedic1343:
They pretty much always waive the activation fee if you call in and ask them to waive it.
[HTC EVO 3D] babbit:
In some ways, I actually hope Sprint does implement a data cap. Ever since the Evo 3D came out, my data speeds has been almost halved. They also went down when the Evo 4G came out. What I'm thinking is that Sprint wants to keep data unlimited, but they just do not have the infrastructure to do so (at least here in Socal).

I don't use much data, but when I do I want to be able to download super fast (i.e. it would be absolutely great if my speeds were at least 500 kbps). Unlimited data isn't much use if it takes me forever just to download 1GB. I can live with a data cap if they can guarantee faster speeds because I don't surf on my phone for hours at a time. It is usually seconds or minutes while I'm not at home, so speed takes priority.
[HTC EVO 3D] tornadog:
I use wifi when I am home and a Verizon roam only prl at other times. So I don't care what Sprint does .....

I am still waiting for the day Sprint brings 100kbps data connection here
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
yes when they get the iphone.
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
Yeah definitely do not have to worry about using more than 2gb per month since this is as fast as I can go where I am at.
[General Questions and Answers] EladLeev:
Hi!

My Motorola Milestone is going crazy (after all..1 and a half year with OC to 1Ghz..)..any way.. I want to buy Motorola Droid3.. and in Verizon web site they said:

All–Digital, 800/1900, CDMA EVDO rev A and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 UMTS

and:

Customers must activate pre-installed SIM Card and a Global Service plan or feature to enable roaming outside of the U.S. in GSM and UMTS Network.

So my question is...if I will buy Droid3 he will work in GSM networks? (in Israel).

:confused:

You think that my SIM card will fit?
[General Questions and Answers] onna:
Official word is- you have to enable global mode in Verizon store and buy their global plan for it to work. Meaning that it is locked.

Of course....in time...and such... :)
[General Questions and Answers] AviUA:
Elad, look at this thread - I'm considering buying one as well - let me know what progress you make.

-avi
[T-Mobile LG G2x] gypsy214:
Hey guys i work for tech support on tmobile a costumer called this morning talking about she got a message from tmobile saying there is an update available for her phone...

This might be the official gingerbread... I havent got it on my g2x yet but we dont push an update to all of the phones at the same time...

So im gonna be looking into this..

And yall keep in mind in this post...

P.s... If your rooted tmobile wont tmobile wont push the update to you you would have to unroot to update the phone...

I'll keep yall posted
[T-Mobile LG G2x] alpinestars:
The GB update as well as the official MIUI both landing on the same day... this would be sick
[T-Mobile LG G2x] brdma:
Just a friendly little anecdote for you. Do with it what you will...

I worked tech support in a call center for a large mobile provider and was terminated for posting on forums after they managed to link me to some posts I had made. They did this by monitoring network traffic in the building, which lead them to my computer since I was posting them while at work. I was fired for the content of the posts, although they were all completely harmless, such as your post. They felt I was divulging proprietary information.

For a long time I kicked myself for posting on the forums with my work computer, but really I should have been kicking myself for posting at all, from any device. In the end, just ask yourself if the risk is worth the reward.

Now, the bright side of this, 6 months later I landed a great job as a network admin for a great company.

Oh and about that company I used to work for, their name started with a T and ended with a Mobile.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] gypsy214:
well thats not very smart for you to do.....

do you really think im getting on this website from work...

im not DENSE like some people...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] alpinestars:
Dude he was just trying to help
[T-Mobile LG G2x] brdma:
I think you're missing the bigger point here. As I said in the post, the conclusion I made in the end was that it really wasn't worth it to post at all, regardless of where I was posting. They could just as easily linked me to the posts using other methods, such as overhearing something, or someone tattling. Or maybe I became facebook friends with someone on the forums, and they reported me. There are plenty of ways.

Nevertheless, I did say to do what you will with the story. But seriously, consider the whole risk vs. reward part of it. What are you really getting out of posting small bits of 'insider' information? Probably not much. And believe me, I didn't think I was divulging anything proprietary, but it didn't matter what I thought. My posts were almost identical to yours. I wish someone had said this to me back then (even though I landed a better job in the end).

Anyhow, good luck to you. You probably won't get burned like I did, but as they say... **** happens.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
Can someone explain why a rooted phone will not work with the OTA? Is having CWM also an issue? What do I need to do to prepare my phone before the update arrives?

I also do not understand why TMo would not publish the update on their site like they do with all the windows phones.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] brdma:
Absolutely right. I later learned that I wasn't the first to be terminated for posting, and I'm sure I won't be the last.

In my last comment I mentioned that I wish someone had given me this bit of 'advice' long ago, but come to think of it, someone pretty much did. I distinctly remember someone replying to me one day and saying that they know other employees had gotten in trouble for posting. I brushed it off just like this guy/gal.

Just trying to pay it forward :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] unique77:
You need to revert back to stock for the update. This is because the update is designed to build on the stock OS, not whatever you have on your phone. As far as rooting it and leaving it stock, not sure what the root does to block the ota.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] alodar1:
I can't be positive, but perhaps its not so much rooted as flashed with another ROM. I've heard of rooted phones being updated. I've not heard of cooked ROMs being updated.

But, I know nothing for sure.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mahgninnuc93:
I don't know if this means anything other than what it says. But I have tried to connect to get software update and it keeps giving me the old can't connect at this time message. Could it be that the servers on their end are overwhelmed with others trying to do the update if it is indeed out?

And another question...I am not a T-Mo suscriber. I use Simple Mobile. Would the update get pushed to my G2x or would I have to manually install it? Thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jcbofkc:
Thanks guys. I am running rooted stock and stayed that way on purpose so I could get the update. I also stayed stock because my phone runs like a champ. Never had a reboot and everything works as intended.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] adevilfish:
You are probably better off waiting a few days to let our developers get a hold of it anyway.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] alpinestars:
The update won't get pushed to Ur phone. Only T-Mobile customers will get the push.