yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
explain me the point to waste time to answer someone

SEARCH!

if yourself do not know where is the answer, normally we answer when we know the answer, or you just want increase your "post" score with useless answer...

so far I never answered "search" or "google it"

I try to post link or picture to answer as much as I can do...

the lazy OP is there because of the lazy society made him. never blame what we become... we are fatter, lazier, than before... just because it's how we seems to evolve..
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
That's something I don't understand either. If someone asks a question you know has already been answered then either 1) Move on and ignore the thread. 2) Provide a link to the thread where the question has been answered.

There is no point in just replying to tell someone to look search for the answer unless it's to increase your post count or to make you feel cool and/or superior.
[Acer Iconia A500] Justray:
+1, and the crappy google search + wait for 25min between answers makes new user to prefer posting hoping for a little help instead reading through pages and pages and tons of threads.

hoping for xda cranky old people to stop bashing, trolling and bulling its like asking for humans for world peace, ain't happening guys.

+1, I'm very active in many forums and what they do (myself included) is to IGNORE that thread of that guy that didn't searched **** and preferred to ask like we NEED to answer them (we are not support guys) and forums aren't freaking yahoo anwers or Facebook/MSN.

I too get annoyed by that kind of douche bags BUT to be an asshole trolling and bashing them (sometimes humiliating and/or insulting them) is FAR worse. Just think about it.

BTW I don't think this thread belong here,as it has nothing to do with the device in question (Acer iconia a500), just a thought.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
omfg hurt internets feelings

To those of you afraid to post for fear of being "berated" - suck it up. Post. Ask questions - and instead of getting hurt feelings about people that come off as a little rude remember:

1) Listen to what they say and learn from it.

2) Message board posts are hard to convay tone - remember some of these people have answered the same question a million times before. Before you get your e-feelings hurt, take a look at what that "rude" post is saying. Perhaps the answer is there and the feeling of rudeness is not worth worrying about. People communicate differently.

3)?????

4)PROFIT!
[Acer Iconia A500] edgie168:
Too much butthurt in this thread.
[Acer Iconia A500] lafatlife:
I do ask questions but on other forums. I have seen too many times here that this is a development forum or to search. As I said in my other post I do try to use the search but if you don't know what to ask as far as the search goes, you can have several hundreds of pages returned and it is overwhelming. Sometimes the answers that are given are very technical or are full of acronyms that new people just don't understand. Sometimes step by step directions are needed.

I commend the people who do take the time to help others out that may not be in the "elite" developers group.

I also commend that very same group for advancing the devices that we all know and love.

But you know something, everyone starts somewhere and they don't know it all when they first start.

Couldn't there be (and I am actually seeing this more) a sticky that is for newbies. One that has the step by step directions and the definitions of terms that are used. That way they can look there first and those "in the know" will not have to keep answering the same questions about how to do stuff.
[Acer Iconia A500] dongimin2:
dont wanna get banned -_-
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Reminding people of the rules isn't trolling. I suggest you check your definitions.
[Acer Iconia A500] dongimin2:
damn, i was gonna edit and nullify the post.

ok, whatever.
[Acer Iconia A500] dongimin2:
123

mods, this is a troll thread that encourages others to flame. close please.

i got sucked in too.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
I don't see any troll

it's true some part on XDA should be more noobfriendly.

some people are very kind, some are very douche

that's it..

we just try to make the douche understand the meaning of COMMUNITY and SHARING and HELP
[Acer Iconia A500] veer01_42:
I agree with that wholeheartedly, but for all the searching you do, sometimes people don't name things as they should or people search using the wrong terminology so where the site search would fail a human would be able to point them in the right direction in but a few seconds. I think that's why there is staff to begin with.

I've only been on this site a few days and im already trying to post tips and answers to other users (despite my limitation of one post every 5 mins and inability to add in external links).
[Acer Iconia A500] nintek:
I am not a very active poster but I tend to get on this site often. I agree with the OP on this, I have seen many noobs get ripped for not understanding something. I think some members have been rude but worse of all not helpful. I dont expect to be spoon fed something but a nudge in the right direction is always appreciated. On the other hand I dont always understand everythiing but I use all my resources before I start asking questions. At the end of the day I think most people here are very helpful and I appreciate the time and effort the devs put into creating ROMS and other tools that help us enjoy our devices the way we want.
[Acer Iconia A500] Ramius71:
And you my friend can lighten up 3 notches! I don't have many post on this forum, but i have been here for a few years now and i read almost every day....sometimes many times a day.

And you are maybe one of the most arrogant soles I have seen in this forum. To treat people like you want to be treatet yourself is a good rule.

MJ had a good song about this..."if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change"

I agree that people can be much better to search before asking....but tell them politely...don't bite their head of!

Tolerance people...tolerance! :)
[Acer Iconia A500] TJEvans:
I hope you all don't mind that I chime in here. I'm not an Iconia owner, I have a Gtab, and that's where you'll find me most often.

I'm on your forums, becuase my stepfather just bought an Iconia, and I want to help him as much as I can to get the most out of his device that he can. That being said, I haven't even touched his Iconia yet, but I'm still reading as much on these forums as I can, to prepare myself as much as I can, so that I am not forced to ask tose stupid questions that some users dislike.

I guess that's just the way I am. I research first, then I mess up a device. I read the Gtab forums for maybe 2 weeks before even getting my Gtab. I knew what risks I'd be taking, I started downloading files in preperation, and I read entire threads for roms that I was interested in, so that I would be prepared for the little quirks of each.

What I think leads to the "stupid" questions are the expectations of the end user. Most (CERTAINLY NOT ALL) Android tablet users have iPad envy. They either know somebody that owns an iPad, or they've messed with one in a store. They fell in love, then got heartbroken when they saw the price. So, they discover android tablets, and think "Hey, it's almost an iPad, I'll buy that and it will be cheaper and better." What they don't take into account is that Android tablets require more user interaction to get the ideal tablet environment. They think that you can take it out of hte box, turn it on, and be in an IOS style sandbox. Android users need to think outside of that box. The "stupid" questions most times come from those users that didn't plan on doing anything to get it working.

The situations that grate on us (in the GTAB forums) are people that flash a honeycomb rom (yeah, we need to make our own stable base honeycomb still). They'll flash it, getting the file from the initial rom post. The post will say that the camera is NOT functional on the rom (becuase the kernal comes from a device that doesn't have a camera) Then they'll creat a brand new thread stating "Just flashed Xcomb rom, but camera does't work, help." Had they actually read the thread from which they got hte rom,, they would have never had a question.

So, it's not just limited ot the search feature not being used, but occasionally, it's due ot pure laziness. I know more about roms that I've never used, simply from reading their posts, than the people that are actually attempting ot use said roms...it get's insane sometimes when people do not do their due diligence to find information for themselves, and end up asking a "stupid" question. Sometimes the answer is right in front of their eyes, and they never bother to read before asking.

Ok, sorry to interject when I don't even have an Iconia...but I don't want to end up asking any stupid questions. I'll go back to reading, so that I can assist my stepfather.
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
>And you are maybe one of the most arrogant soles I have seen in this forum. To treat people like you want to be treatet yourself is a good rule.

So you want people to call you arrogant soles? Just checking.

My experience is that those who are free with calling other people "trolls" and "soles" are the ones most merited with those titles.

>MJ had a good song about this..."if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change"

>Tolerance people...tolerance!

Practice what you preach.

All this tsk-tsk is for naught, of course. People will act however they will act. A thread saying people SHOULD be nicer will be blithely ignored as it deserves. It's like saying we should have world peace...or that Democrats and Republicans should work together, instead of yelling petty little names like the present company is fond of doing (while preaching "tolerance" nonstop).

Noobs will be noobs. Trolls will be trolls. And hypocrites will be hypocrites. That's reality.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
Tell ya what, if you find someone that continually posts negative comments, use your ignore feature located in your user cp. It's really simple, and has made my experience much more enjoyable now that I've found it.

Just a thought ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
If a user knows enough to go to the User Control Panel, then s/he would already know more than enough to use the search function, and thereby obviating all of this "people should be nicer to noobs" beeswax.
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
>I research first, then I mess up a device.

Kameraden!

>What I think leads to the "stupid" questions are the expectations of the end user.

Nah, it's usually fragile egos. The text interface is bereft of social cues, so if you ask a question and somebody curtly tells you to search, you can take it either way. You can thank the answerer for his efficient reply, or you can get offended (like many folks in this thread) and call him a troll. It comes down to how thin-skinned you are, and as amply demonstrated in this thread, it's not hard to get people's dander up for them to throw the "troll" label left and right.

It's sad to say, but people are inherently rude when online. Noobs, curmudgeons, everybody. That's the way it is, and no thread saying "XDA should be friendlier" will change that immutable fact.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Not being able to find something specific using the search tool doesn't equate the user being a "noob": for example the user might not know the correct search terms, how do you search for the right stuff then? And there's plenty of people here who have the tendency of writing totally incoherent messages and create similarly incoherent titles for their threads, how do you search for them then?

Besides... what do you exactly lose if you are nice to "noobs?" Being nice and taking one goddamn minute of your life to write a coherent message instead of "stfu noob" shouldn't really be too much of strain for anyone here to be an impossible feat.
[Acer Iconia A500] Ramius71:
Please mate..... Do you have to misunderstand on purpose? I tried in a nice way to tell him and everybody that there is more ways than 1 to tell people something. I prefer the polite way.

And you say that people that yell about "trolls" and "soles" usually are the the worst....then go and read all my posts (its not that many) and see for your self.

But then again... I'm from Norway, and we are a very polite people.

But I see that some people just want to be assholes and treat others acordingly! :(
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
>the user might not know the correct search terms, how do you search for the right stuff then?

He can start by thinking about what he wants to know. Say he has screen problem. Then, "Acer Iconia screen problem" is the obvious starting point. Gosh, or is this too much to ask?

BTW, "secret of the eggspurt" to those who don't already know: Google search works best. If you want to search for a term on XDA, then simply append "site:xda-developers.com" to the search term.

>what do you exactly lose if you are nice to "noobs?"

Who said I'm not nice to noobs? Who said that if I simply tell them to search for their answers, that I'm not being nice to them?

Some folks here keep saying people should have more tolerance and be "nicer." Well, it cuts both ways. Why shouldn't a noob be "nicer" and more tolerant, and assume the best of intentions when somebody tells them to search for their answers. Who's being the rude one?

>taking one goddamn minute of your life to write a coherent message instead of "stfu noob" shouldn't really be too much of strain for anyone here to be an impossible feat.

I've not been here long, but long enough, and I've never seen anyone to say "STFU noob." Yes, that indeed would be rude. To be honest, I've seen far more of the flip side, when a noob takes offense at some trivial remark and gets into a hissy fit, like some folks here. It only takes one incident like that to turn a well-intentioned "helper" into a cynical curmudgeon.

So, yes, I agree with the subject heading. XDA should be friendlier. NOOBS ESPECIALLY!
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
>I tried in a nice way to tell him and everybody that there is more ways than 1 to tell people something. I prefer the polite way.

If calling somebody an "arrogant sole" is a nice way, I hate to see what you call people in a nasty way!

Now you see how easy it is to offend. You probably don't mean to call him "sole," just as he probably doesn't mean to say whatever it is that got you offended. Then, as you said: have tolerance. It starts at home, yes?
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Well, some people here like to post just "Learn to use search!" which conveys exactly the same meaning as "stfu noob" when used like that. It'd be much more productive for all involved not to post at all if the person has nothing better to say.

I probably have been looking at very different threads than you then. I haven't noticed many such "noobs" flipping out. My own personal pet-peeve though is the fact that most of them simply don't bother to write clearly, they often just ramble, ignore all punctuation and just throw all words together in an unintelligible ramble. Those kinds of posts really don't make me want to help them and thus I just skip them altogether.
[Acer Iconia A500] Ramius71:
Sorry....I miss-spelled it. I mean soul! I don´t think Soul is such a bad word.

And sorry, but I don´t know what "sole" is other than maybe the bottom of a shoe.

If i offended somebody by misspelling the word i am sorry.
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
I don't have a "soul", that's religious garbage that doesn't belong here. I do have a "sole" though, two in fact. :p
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
@WereCatf

>Well, some people here like to post just "Learn to use search!" which conveys exactly the same meaning as "stfu noob" when used like that.

It goes back to the tolerance thing that people keep harping about. To one of the thin-skinned sort, the above would be an insult. To one with more tolerance, then it's a constructive criticism. Like I said, it cuts both ways. Noobs should have more tolerance and less ego, especially as they're the ones seeking help.

>most of them simply don't bother to write clearly, they often just ramble, ignore all punctuation and just throw all words together in an unintelligible ramble.

Sure, the main malady of being a noob. The hard truth is that the answers one gets are only as good as the question one asks. It's those rambling type of questions that tend to get the curt "learn to use search" responses. Those with more articulateness would invariably get more informative responses. Nobody likes to deal with lazy people.

@Ramius71

>Sorry....I miss-spelled it. I mean soul! I don´t think Soul is such a bad word.

Ah, the vagaries of language! "Sole" in English vernacular would be shorthand for "asshole". I thought that's what you meant. Apologies all around.

No fret! English isn't my native language either.
[Acer Iconia A500] Ramius71:
And there you just proved my point. In respect for your opinion I will use person instead next time. I should have guessed that you didn´t have a soul.

@e.mote - Ahhh....I see. Then I understand why you reacted.
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Bwuh!?!

Yeah, English isn't your native language. A "sole" is that thing on the bottom of your foot, or a shoe, or it can mean a "singular item". No idea WHERE you got your definition from, but it isn't from anything English!
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Some people in here REALLY need to work on their sense of humour.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
In all my years I've NEVER seen anyone use "sole" as a shorthand for that and I've been hanging around various English-speaking communities for tens of years. :confused: "Sole" means one, lone, single, or the bottom of a shoe, I haven't seen anyone use "sole" for anything else.
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
Hahah, looks like my English is worse than I thought! Time to hit them ESL books again! Or at least quit getting my vocabule from online forums!

Yes yes...where to go for some remedial ed...oh, I know! I'll use SEARCH! *8]
[Acer Iconia A500] pov1:
I think it's about time to close this thread. It's B** S**T ! If your having a problem deal with it period . This is a tablet forum damn it not Ann Landers.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Your point?
[Acer Iconia A500] pov1:
Hi WC. Read the last sentence.
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
He's Finnish. Maybe he doesn't get the reference? (I had to look it up! :p)
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Yes, "This is a tablet forum damn it not Ann Landers.", but... so, do you mean we shouldn't care about ethics, morality or anything such here nor discuss absolutely anything besides tablets?
[Acer Iconia A500] pov1:
Maybe I should rephrase that. If your having problems with an individuals comments to you, deal with the individual you don't have to have a group discussion on it or talk to the OP. End of disc. for me.

Cheers,

Bob
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
I'm a she, not a he :)
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
My apologies.
[Acer Iconia A500] pov1:
Not necessarily, but don't you think enough is enough ?
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
As long as it stays in only one thread I personally don't find it a problem. It would be different if it happened all over the place.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
lol the person that has got you hook, line, and sinker is one that I have on my ignore list. The only way I can see his posts is if someone else quotes him. Don't let someone who is so obviously unhappy with his own life drag you down with him. USE THE IGNORE FUNCTION IN THE USER CP! It's there for a reason! ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] Akabana:
anyone have a restore file (Full restore) for A500 in Thailand

I try Acer_A500_0.000.00_1.016.01_COM_GEN1 in link http://cdn.acer.futuredial.com/Acer_A500_0.000.00_1.016.02_COM_GEN1_1300976069475_9bbd8228.zip

from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1113878

But can't open file may be file is damage

Can I use Different such as Acer_A500_0.000.00_1.016.01_COM_GEN1
[Acer Iconia A500] shinzenkumi:
How to flash update package :

Once the desired file downloaded, you have to use Acer Update Decryter to decrypt them.

After decrypting the file, you have to extract the update.zip from it, put it on an external SDCard (does not work on internal memory) and boot your tablet with Vol- & Power. The update will be launch automatically.
[Acer Iconia A500] Akabana:
thank you very much i'm updating.

the file i choose Acer_A500_0.000.00_1.016.02_COM_GEN1

is right for thailand?
[Acer Iconia A500] shinzenkumi:
And I went floor 3 at Acer Dealer, they have a tablet, the version is

Kernel 2.6.36.3-00001-gf991e5d

Build Acer_A500_1.016.04_COM_GEN1

so I am sure the version from THAILAND is this one.

Credit for Sanaell
[Acer Iconia A500] Akabana:
Thank you. I never install custom kernel how to install it.

It also use CWM and choose Install for sd card? or have to use appication?
[Acer Iconia A500] shinzenkumi:
Just Copy the update.zip to ur Micro-sd. Then shut down device.

Press both power button + Volume (-) to run recovery. :D
[Acer Iconia A500] Akabana:
I mean Kernel not Rom T_T
[Acer Iconia A500] shinzenkumi:
Ops Sorry.To install Kernel there are lot of them in the first page.But why do u want to install Kernel? I think that u want to back to original ROM for Official OTA.
[Acer Iconia A500] Akabana:
^^ first that i want to back 3.0 because i want to update by acer to 3.1.

but in facebook acer thailand have many people that update to 3.1 by acer

have a problem. Now I choose to use custom and kernel from this web site ^^

It fast and fun than update by acer . I can try many rom and kernel.

Thank you for answer me hope you can understand my English we also Thai ^^

You have MSN? If have can you tell me.
[Acer Iconia A500] PhuketPaul:
Thai Language

Hi,

I bought my Iconia in Thailand and was disappointed that it didn't have thai language support, but I've tried many different ROMs and I am now using Virtuous Galaxy which is a great ROM, 3.1 from Samsung Tablet and it has full support for the Thai Language

Paul
[Acer Iconia A500] imblacklemon:
Hi Akabana, try this one megaupload.com/?d=Z60CA8FN for Acer_A500_0.000.00_1.016.01_COM_GEN1 :)

now I restore back to 016.01 success

next I will update to my default fw Acer_A500_1.016.01_1.139.04_COM_GEN1 :p

Finally I can't update my a500 from 016.01 to 139.04 :-(

Now, I found that original firmware in Thailand is Acer_A500_1.016.04_COM_GEN1 not Acer_A500_1.016.01_COM_GEN1
[EVO Shift 4G General] bcellis:
I switched my Sprint number over to Google Voice about a month ago as part of the Sprint/GV integration. So far, so good, no problems.

I noticed before that if I sent a message from the stock SMS app, it'd show up in Google Voice. I thought it was a pretty handy feature. However, I noticed it hasn't been happening lately (within the past week or so). Has anyone else noticed this?

I don't know if this is a ROM issue (MikshiftG) or a Sprint/GV/Network issue or maybe it's just a feature they stopped enabling.

Just wondering if anyone else a) noticed this feature before and b) if it's still working for anyone else.
[EVO Shift 4G General] frigidazzi:
Has this been fixed? I plan to switch to sprint soon and was hoping this worked like this.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Lancerz:
Mine still does this so im not sure what the problem is for you. I'm on the ota 2.3 update.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bcellis:
It must've been a temporary issue. Sprint was having SMS issues around the time this was happening... haven't had any problems since then.