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[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I agree 100%, and that is what keeps me going. But the fear of even potentially getting stuck with ship-stock phone is enough for me to err on the safe side. Sadly my desire to play it safe outweighs even the enourmous amounts of faith I have in TeamWin...I mean, they reverse engineered Wimax, and I think that was far more daunting a feat.

I guess I just wasn't made for these high-stakes games of technological chicken... I should really just stop the nonsense and get a NS4G and upgrade again to the Nprime when the time comes...
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I see what you mean. The fear of HTC pulling some magical BS that actually prevented root. There is one thing I know, and when it comes to security software in the tech world, it can be cracked. Nothing ever is 100% secured, that is what makes me keep my faith in the Devs.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I agree totally. While I know it would be foolhardy to try to bruteforce a 2048-bit key I am sure there is a flaw in the implementation or in one of the layers leading up to or out of it. This device (hardware and software wise) is simply far too complex to be sealed up...honestly, time is my only concern. Not even the 30-day window, but, the 'time to strike' for this generation of devices. I even have faith in HTC to come through on their promises, just not in their timeframe.

Time will tell.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I agree.

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[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
The reason I brought up money is because you brought it up first. If you don't like the phone that's your opinion. However I don't get how you are saying the phone isn't worth the money. On facts alone, the phone is faster, if you can't see that either you are comparing to a highly over clocked EVO, or you are not tying to see it. There is more storage. The screen is a higher resolution. Almost everything else is subjective/personal preference. Could you explain more how it isn't worth the money?
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
I say just have faith...
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I agree with everything you said but this one really strikes close to home for me. I was *****ing about it the day before release and I'm still *****ing about it. I *hate* this aspect ratio to death. My 4G looks mammoth sitting next to this thing...but it's not. I'm sure it's for the exact reason you stated: movies.

It is a 3D phone after all, so, that is understandable, but, I don't have to like it. It's just too bad I'm in love with this pixel density or it would already be back by now...

All in all I'm sure it's a small thing, it's just a pet peeve of mine that started when everything went to 16:9....15:9 was perfect for a smart phone and would also be a perfect computer monitor....I want some vertical pixels back, sure I could put my start menu/doc on the side, but, that sucks....great for movies, maybe for games but blows for everything else.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
Great pro/con list. I would say however that some of your cons are opinion or personal preference though.
[HTC EVO 3D] ffolkes:
Glad to see someone else agree. I don't think you're nitpicking, it's really annoying that HTC and Sprint promote this as "both have 4.3" displays" when in fact that's a bit misleading. You could make a stick of chewing gum have a 4.3" diagonal if you wanted to, and everyone would assume it was the same size screen on paper.

And yes, I think it's because of video content probably. I really notice it too, and the increased density is what makes me be more forgiving. I guess we'll get used to it. But I LOVED how the Evo4G was almost like a minitablet.

For those wondering, here's a comparison:
[HTC EVO 3D] :
So little missing space yet such a ginormous ass difference.
[HTC EVO 3D] ffolkes:
Thanks. And yeah, sort of. That's why I added such detailed explanations haha.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
That may be annoying, but every screen measurement is measured diagonally. Go to the big screen tv section in Walmart. Look at the 50" tvs different brands have different sq inches but they are all 50" tvs. This is not an attack on you personally, but i see a bunch of people complaining about companies and what seems to be false advertising.
[HTC EVO 3D] albie1937:
Camera lags and stock rom. Yea it kinda sucks right now because we have no permanant ROOt and S-Off. Once that happens, IT is ON!
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
LOL at this thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike21pr:
Lol at downgrade....

1.2ghz dual core chip with a monster GPU, QHD resolution, 1gb RAM, dedicated camera button, bigger battery, gingerbread with Sense 3.0, a friggen 3D screen and camera!!!!

I bet ur comparing this phone stock to a rooted a modded EVO 4G because comparing stock vs stock its embarrasing to call this a downgrade... Just say ur mad about the bootloader and not being able to access its full potential and be done with it because its pathetic to actually call this a downgrade

I remember the OG EVO having way worse light leakage, screen seperation, worse battery, and a friggin 30fps cap when released and this was all fixed by updates (software side) so let Sprint and HTC fix the issues since its been out a mere 2 weeks

s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
+999999876332456889
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Yeah, but..umm...I didn't come from a stock Evo4G...and I highly doubt anybody here who came from an Evo4G came from a stock Evo4G. If you wanna compare stock experiences go whip out your e-peen on androidcentral half the people there are afraid of rooting for whatever reason...

...I'm just not that thrilled with this phone. I HAVE a tricked out Evo4G and there is currently no way to trick out this Evo3D to beat that 4G. The screen *is* gorgeous, that is a fact and there is no soft-mod around to duplicate that...but...around here stuff like that matters.

In fact, because of this thread I am bringing back this narrow candybar tomorrow. Even the resolution bump can't keep me. Too narrow. I don't watch movies on my goddamned phone, it just isn't worth it to me.

NS4G and then Nprime here I come...

I am going to miss the utter chaos around here, so, don't think you've lost me for good...I'll come here to the Evo3D general instead of 4chan, it's nearly the same these days anyway, lol
[HTC EVO 3D] kenny8504:
Umm the charging port is the hdmi port aswell
[HTC EVO 3D] mike21pr:
i didnt say keep it stock bro, i said that its not running at its full potential so its not fair to compare it to the OG EVO or any tricked out phone ATM even though it stacks up very well ant still beats most of them. Im dying that the bootloader would be unlokced so o dont know where u got the idea that i dont root or dont want to flash a custom rom on this puppy, but till htc unlocks it we are stuck.

but anyway, seems you dont like mostly the screen size and ratio so no rooting or modding will fix that so good luck with whatever phone u get.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Thanks man... it'll probably be the NS4G until th Nprime comes out....so long as it is 15:9 too.....awww crap.... the Nprime will be 720p, that's 16:9...gdamnit....well, I'll go ns4g for now anyway, someone has gotta be willing to cater to us 'fat phone' lovers in the future....

Though I'll just hang out on here instead of the Nexus forums...far too civil over there, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] bsims85:
I think there is a problem with Gingerbread and the cameras on these phones. With Froyo, my EVO 4G took decent pictures in even pitch black rooms. The flash was was a beast. Once I upgraded to gingerbread, it was almost unusable even in only slightly dark rooms. It seems like the camera shutter and flash are out of sync.

I agree with many of the complaints people have, and we shouldn't have to wait for a hacked phone to have a properly functioning phone. Personally, the camera performance is my biggest gripe, but I completely understand peoples frustration regarding other issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] fdavila17:
Love this thread!!!! Comparing the EVO 4g with the 3d is just embarrassing LOL like I said right now u don't need the old EVO because I'm sure u just will flash the Kingdom ROM or any 3.0 sense Rom that we actually have the original one lol we don't need root right now because we are we are on the top of the line!! We will need root to use some apps but there's a temp root for that.
[HTC EVO 3D] TX2000:
I dont know why everyone complains about the camera because my wife's breast look awesome in 3D. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
tsk tsk tsk...I *****ed about how sloppy sense 3 was when I tried kingdom rom and honestly I don't think it's that much better on native hardware. It's a mess. A tremendous waste of resources, but, it's a matter of opinion...tastes...to each his own, etc etc etc.

Well, Android (or HTC, more specifically...or maybe even the Evo brand) has finally "made it". We now have idiotic fanboys who will defend their chosen brand/upgrade decision to the death, seemingly without putting much thought into any other point of view. Confirmation bias FTW?

Lying to yourself is the saddest way to lie...either way Apple should be quaking in their boots.
[HTC EVO 3D] Quis89:
Spec wise this is in no way shape or form a downgrade. The only advantage the OG EVO has is the 8 MP camera. Aside from that...this phone is better in every way possible. All the complaints are purely preference based. This phone is definitely no downgrade.

To be honest...had I of owned the original EVO rather than it belonging to my fiancee I probably wouldnt have forked over the money only because the original EVO is a great phone and quite honestly is all the power I need. BUT...the 3D is a pure monster and definitely is the better phone. I'm happy with it and couldnt see myself going down to the original EVO now.
[HTC EVO 3D] Quis89:
Thats purely subjective.

Allow us to be the judge of that....
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
EVO3D cam is hands down way better.

Whenever you hear the phrase "the numbers say it all" thoroughly distrust the person saying that--numbers don't say anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] TX2000:
Oh yeah it sucks because doesnt have Grab-O-Vision!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Please edit the phase "grab-0-vision"

As its to close to Steve jobs iGrab-O-vision

/joke?

sent from a 3devo
[HTC EVO 3D] Quis89:
I agree the camera is better...but on paper the megapixel count reads as being better on the OG EVO which one could argue would be an upside. Until they use the cameras...in which case they'll realize the 3D is the way to go.
[HTC EVO 3D] TX2000:
Eeppp i think he is in the backyard... I smell apples and broken dreams
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
LOL

sent from a 3devo
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
What's that?! You feel strong sir?!

Lol family guy aside, you just in that little post, I one breath said to each his own as far as personal preference. Then in the next breath called people who like their phones fanboys? Congratulations that might be the most idiotic post in this thread. If you push personal preference side, the 3D is technologically better than the original EVO 8(or 9) times out of ten.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
Prove it. Lol. Jk.
[HTC EVO 3D] TX2000:
NEVAH!!! :P
[HTC EVO 3D] fdavila17:
U just mad stupid my man LOL don't keep embarrassing urself
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
In practice on most cellular phone cameras the MP means nothing. The sensor is what is important.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I guess that came off a bit harsh.

What I meant to get across (by the fanboy comment) was that some people (especially around here lately) cannot seem to fathom that their device is not perfect in every way--or more so that they are looking for affirmation that their device is obviously the best. Anyone disagreeing, even on pragmatic terms, is clearly wrong and/or an idiot.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
...and I'll let that post speak for itself...
[HTC EVO 3D] TX2000:
+1 and when they start puting money on the optics we will get results. Dont get me wrong this camera is good. For really good pics i use my dslr
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Yeah that was kinda ignorant.. and "ghetto"

sent from a 3devo
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
lol. Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I did grow up in a ghetto broke as hell...but...hood vernacular is rarely the most effective tool for communication.

...though there are times when it is, but typically arguing about technology is perhaps the most misplaced use of such.

Also, lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
That's what I hoped to do with this thread. You sir show the definition of what fanboys don't do. You explained yourself that's all I ask. People that automatically dismiss any different view are idiots. But there will be fanboys everywhere my friend. Nothing we can do about it but laugh.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I grew up on the south side of Tampa.. so I know how bad it gets also.. but yeah talking gangsta on a development forum won't get you manny kool points or hood rats... Or whatever he was trying to do

sent from a 3devo
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
Lmao. Discussing tech is definitely not the forum ( pun intended ) to be ghetto or ignorant.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zoidpilot:
Wait... What!? The phone is $550 retail.

Sent from my Shooter 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] bobdude5:
This is the first android phone I've had that just works. First phone that could handle HTC sense perfectly. Camera is better, video recording is better, build quality, speed, functionality, features, and battery life are all better. Build quality is spectacular,and it looks a lot more sexier than the 4g imo.

I don't why some of you don't like the charging port location. It's in the perfect position. It doesn't get in the way of portrait or landscape typing unlike the bottom position where you have to wrap your finger around the charging port to type.
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
While I do not think it is a downgrade, I do miss the things the 4G can do. These things are the obvious, roms and kernels. Not much more to say on the subject as we all pretty much feel the same. Right now I am weighed with a decision, keep the 3D or return for a SGS2. I do not care for samsung phones, but would trade the 3D for the ability to flash roms/kernels. The way my luck is the 3D will get s-off as soon as I get the sammy. And we know who dominates, look at the evo/epic ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] djsaiyan:
You are going to regret going to the dark side of samsung the evo 3d when unlocked very soon will be way better. I know there will be dev,s working on NS4g Nprime, but it will take long cause of the hipe on the evo 3D, you sound like some of my friends of old that thought they where in the hip croud cause they chose mac and said they could get no viruses, till mac started using intel chip base. Lol. Besides I am glad they made the screen width slimer.

Sent from my Fr3Dome 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] nerv666999:
oh yeah, S.Tampa the hood all the gangstars fear! LMFAO.... but what about Ybor City? they're CRAZY! those cats will cut you just for breathing funny, jeesh! but really? You are talking about ground zero for the birth of death metal, but even so, ghetto? come hang for a day in Inglewood,CA, or Redhook, NJ, sorry but Tampa as hood? Now Lakeland? well maybe:eek::mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
IMHO, This is definitely an upgrade to my old EVO by a longshot. Is it perfect? No. Is it worth getting? Yes.

Camera is better, shutter button, screen is better, Stock speed is faster than EVO rooted, the graphics WOW, 1Gig RAM, a gig of UA storage & the gimmick is fun as hell. It's one core alone is better.

I can cry about it not having permanent root but that's just a matter of patience.
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[General Questions and Answers] Bierce22:
pandora is closed source if im not mistakin
[General Questions and Answers] Dark3n:
That is a mighty weird forum post you made O_o, whats up with all the emails signatures?

"Pandora Radio" if you mean the app it is obviously written in java, as are all android apps.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropyiv:
Doh.

Somehow managed to delete the stock 3.1 wpa_supplicant, so now I have no wifi.

Could someone please provide a copy from their oh-so-fresh 3.1 please.

Thanks. I feel dumb...
[Acer Iconia A500] Johnny0906:
Where did you delete it from? Give me the exact location and ill copy it.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropyiv:
/system/bin/

Thanks so much!
[Acer Iconia A500] entropyiv:
Whew! I got it working.

I grabbed the file from one of the posted update.zip files, and once I figured out I had to give it execute perms (duh), it works.
[Acer Iconia A500] Johnny0906:
Awesome :)
[Acer Iconia A500] A.C. 1982:
I am having the exact same problem. I deleted it from /system/bin/. Im at a lost and not sure what i need to do at this point to get the wi-fi back working on my A500. Any help with a step by step process on getting this fixed will be greatly appreciated? Thanks in advance.
[Acer Iconia A500] A.C. 1982:
I load the zip file in recovery mode? Everytime i try to transfer the file to my tablet from my desktop I get the following error "cannot copy item - the device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected".But when i try to transfer any other zip file, it does it with no problem. HELP!
[Galaxy 3 General] brigo:
soory, you can closed this thread
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MvP77:
I'm just wondering if there is a way to change the user agent in ie9. I'm currently using Mango beta 2 on my HD7.

I'm noticing that most mobile sites like google, Facebook and twitter are rendered in the old mobile sites.

Maybe its because it's beta, but this is the only thing that I don't like about WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] day2die:
Yes. You'll have to code an IE shell using the built-in WebBrowser control and set the user agent to whatever you want.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gripnrip:
So I know there have been tons of threads regarding light bleed in the Transformer but what I'm wondering is if the issue has gotten any better with the newer units. My 45 day return window at Best Buy is coming up and I'm trying to decide what to do. I have some light bleeding on the bottom right of my unit, but it only really bothers me in dark rooms. However since my wife tries not to use lights very much in our house, most rooms are dark. I haven't had any other issues, and I would only consider exchanging it if I knew that the newer ones have gotten better on this front. I got mine in mid May and I assume they've had numerous shipments since then. Have the new models gotten any better on the defect front?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] doolyd:
I just bought one yesterday and I am taking it back today. Mine has some separation between the glass and bezel as if it were dropped in shipping or something. I also notice very minor light bleed only at the bottom about middle area so I would say that most likely this issue hasn't been resolved but I am afraid the new one I get tonight will be worse.

I will post up tonight when i get the new one and let you know if it has any bleed....most likely it will. Even the display models at 2 different Best Buys has it. I got mine from Office Depot so that is three different stores all with light bleed issues.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MmavisO:
I got mine last month from Best Buy online and it's fine. No bleeding, no creaking, no problems of any kind (except the occasional PEBKAC issue ;) )
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kaylord84:
I have no problems as ofyet
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gripnrip:
So it's still a crap-shoot?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] KyleK29:
Just got mine from NewEgg for $389/fs. So far, no issues. It's a black-sealed, Serial# B60 model. I can't detect any light-bleed, no creaks/cracks. Only had it a few minutes, but all seems well. It was packaged very well from NE with peanuts in a large box. I can't detect issues with the speakers either.

It had Android 3.1 preinstalled.

Also, it has all my phone (EVO) apps installed within minutes ... not sure if that's new to Google or something, but never had that before. It did it automatically when I signed in to Google.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] krighton:
what was the serial number of yours...b6?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] rbusch:
Bought mine in Singapore last week, no problems whatsoever. Is from the recent manufactured batch, B60K serial, TW firmware. Love it, no regrets!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] redshirt72:
Bought mine Saturday at Compusa , went B&M in case I had to take it back. i have a slight amount of light bleed at the bottom middle right. Not sure if I'll take it back, it doesn't really bother me, but I did just pay for a new product so it should be perfect right?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] detbydave:
I returned my first one due to a dead pixel and minor light bleed in the bottom middle of the screen. I just got my new one in yesterday and I can not find a single issue with it. Serial number b60.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] KyleK29:
Mine was B60K as well. In case the letter after the number changes at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] doolyd:
Yes the one I got yesterday was a serial b6. The one I got today is a b5.

They both have\had very slight light bleed (at the bottom) but I think I can deal with it.

This new b5 is a little worse than the b6 but almost not so much to really even bring it up, but I will. So I would say that it is a crap shoot which sucks. I turned it on at the store but it wasn't dark enough to see the problem. I have seen some that are very bad that I couldn't live with but both I have had I could/will live with; unless they get worse over time.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] slopokdave:
I would normally agree with your logic about it being perfect, but with these IPS screens it's very hard to totally do away with the light bleed. Even the iPad2, as much as Apple praises their build quality, has light bleed. Mine did and so did my wife's.

Hell, my 46" Samsung LCD has some light bleed in the corners (we refer to them as "flashights").

I think if you get a TF with minimal light bleed, mine is very small at the bottom, you are doing well.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gripnrip:
So mine is a B40K series. It sounds like if I can find a B60K series it might be worth it to exchange?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] filmusikat:
I am going to take my in for a replacement @ Fry's tomorrow as well! If I call ahead of time...will they tell me if they have a B60 in stock? =/ Seems like there are more success stories with the B60...I have light bleeding out all over the bottom...and on the left. :confused: