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[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
DUDE, ima explain something and you are going to have to acecept it, one way or another. comes the end of july, and this OTA goes life. everysingle Atrix user will have the new BL, that bricks if you try to return to an older version of the OS using sbf. This is THE DEVELOPMENT <<<<< forum, there is warnings for a reason. Im sorry you bricked, but no one forced you to flash anything. If you are a noob dont flash things you do understand.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
Anyways, theres good news and bad news.

hard bricks: no fix sorry.

current ota: temp fix read further. (kenns rom and navylants rom safe for flashing)

hard bricks: bad news

for the people that already bricked, it is confirm it is a hard brick, it is cause by the new BL. moto nor att want us back on older versions and i dont blame them, the 2.3.4 is way more superior.

the phone could be fix using the nvflash method, but we simply dont have the sbk. so once again i apologize but there is simply nothing that can be done without the sbk.

for the people currently on Official OTA: good news

an exprimental 183 sbf with pudding will work to restore you to 183 if you desire. but still, you can only restore using sbf if the sbf has pudding already pckg with it. the temporary fix is located on the second post in this thread.

all credit ofr the fix goes to The2dCour, AllTheWay, jruweaver, and Javi

read:

furthermore, it is safe to use kenns rom, or navylants rom. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS OTA. THE OTA ITSELF IS NOT GOING TO HARD BRICK YOUR PHONE. ONLY ATTEMPTING TO DOWNGRADE WILL.

Also, you can flash any system and boot img using fastboot.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
OP THIS NOT THE OFFICIAL OTA, OFFICIAL OTA will be when MOTOROLA / ATT released so PLEASE NOT MISLEADING!!

THIS IS OTA that seem as near as what will be releasing as Official... BUT IS NOT OFFICIAL so DON USE THE WORD OFFICIAL... got the point
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
EDIT: i hope before you went on your little over the internet coward spill you read the name of the thread. it reads clearly stock, is only after spending all night looking in and out of this build, than not just me, but many other people and devs, belive this is official.

kenn has a prepared sbf .91 this build has no debug tools, no sing of any QA. there is no misleading here, this is an OTA official. wheter test or not.

And this WAS RELEASED BY MOTOROLA. We may not have gotten this by "official" means. but this is pure .91, the build that 75% percent is most likely going to be in your phone come the end of this month.

You stop misleading people
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
YOU JUST SAID IT:

"the build that 75% percent is most likely going to be in your phone come the end of this month."

75% that is the one that will be released by OTA to the MASS.... SO OPEN YOUR EYES IS NOT "OFFICIAL YET"

And I am not trying to troll you, actually I am enjoying your released, but everytime I read "Official" ummm it seem as Misleading. "Official" if you are 100% this will 100% the one will be realeased to the mass and you got the leak, but as you said it "75% percent" so thats my point
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
75% is official.

including the evil BL. i really feel the cries coming for the end of this month.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
k guys, ive been up for about 23-24 hours now and im short tempered, so please let keep trolling on the low, and lets report any actual real issues in the ota thats not the known BL brick.

WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU FLASHED THIS, DO NOT SBF BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
Great MUCH BETTER! so will be called "75% OFFICIAL OTA" ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mounttimp:
So its safe to RSD a radio
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
no radios, no bls. we are yet to figure out why radios cause a problem. but we do know they might! so i cant say go ahead.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mounttimp:
K thanks
[Atrix 4G Android Development] narta:
Documenting

I was on HKTW 2.3.4 with radio 01.97.00R radio unlocked via pudding ofc.

I flashed via cwm kenneth's beta 2, rooted with cwm root.zip and then flashed the 4.5.91 SBF radio ia RSDlite.

And I am fine and dandy.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
so back to the topic two bugs that I found (tested already in two units):

1. No touchscreen on Android Recovery (power up Vol down -> Android Recovery, get stuck when you try to tap bottom right corner) the only fix I found is install unlock CDW from tenfar to replace Android Recovery with CDW. OP Can you confirm this?

2. It seem is harder to get some H+ on "some cell towers" (as I said before I already tested on two units) so I can assure this, before update I was getting H+ in an specific tower cell, now just getting GSRP but if I stick with other tower H+ kick in, but weird... actually I still have a third unit with 1.83 stock and I put side by side and confirm what I said before (by the way I am not rich reason I have 3 units is because family plan ;)

The rest it seem stable...

OP if you noticed thats the reason you will start to see post about how to flash radio sbf or image.

Right now testing flash CG5 (radio image) from 1.83 and will test flash 1.83 sbf as well to post...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
You are ok becasues:

1. Update HKTW 2.3.4 via unlock and update system.img and boot.img

2. You flashed 4.5.91 (Kenneth) via CDW so is the same concept of update just system.img and boot.img

3. Flashed just SBF "Radio" 4.5.91 but YOU NEVER flashed the complete SBF (included BL and A20) so thats the key you still in safe water to do a downgrade BUT if you SBF the complete 4.5.91 YOU CAN NOT DOWNGRADE ANY MORE to a previus SBF

There is two different things flash "radio" only SBF 4.5.91 and the complete SBF
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
the Android recovery on this build is fine, to enable the options on it, you press both the volume keys at the same time!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mounttimp:
The only problem im having is my signal jumps all over the place but I had the same prob on the shiped radio.

Everything else is working great
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
YEAP THAT MAKE THE TRICK! Thanks....

Now just figure out about the radios, it seem 50% 50% people with good feeling and people with some issues

So need more documentation about it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] XCellPhoneSalesRep:
nevermind, cancel that
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
ive not flash one radio i was satisfy with. im not sure what moto does wrong with the radio firmware. they just cant get it right. now the gps is freaking amazing
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
OK this is what fix my radio issues (just edge and GSRP), I just try it on two units and work like a charm

After OP post to how past android recovey screen (press both VOL buttons) I noticed this an updated version on the android recovery screen (E3) so I did the following I applied the updated.zip agains with the new recovery screen and then wipe cache and wipe data (all) and it seem that fix the H+ issue

Happy Camper now and NO need to return to any previus SBF. The only concern is do not have any safe net (SBF) for modding but it seem close.

Thanks! OP (and no bad feeling about my previus post but seem fair 75% OTA ;))
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mysticdrew:
Hey samcripp and all, thanks for the support.

Question- you mentions it's safe to go from ota to kenn's rom or the special pudding built in SBF. Once you move over to kenn's rom from ota, are we still stuck from regular sbfing?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
sbf is not a safety net, is just the simplest way to fix a problem.

if your radio would have fail you still could have flashed another one, if you got a boot loop, you could still fastboot -w. all in all an sbf is pretty much a .zip container, with some fancy scripts, and alot of more junk that you dont need. not to run a system that is, as long as your phone has boot and system it will work!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
yup, no more sbfig. the only sbf you CAN FLASH ARE THOSE WITH PUDDING. if they are pudding less they are a no go
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
If you already apply the OTA update.zip THAT IS IT, you can not go back to previus SBF

but it is safe apply OTA and then go to Kenn (kenn just apply boot.img and system.img, so is not doing nothing to BL and AP20) but because your already applied OTA before Kenn, OTA already updated BL and AP20 from your previus version

So it did not mather if you apply OTA then Kenn and then from Kenn you want to apply a previus SBF, you start point in this case is OTA 4.5.91 (in other words you already updated your BL and AP20 so you are stuck on 4.5.91)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nsaia:
Yes. I'd like reiterate the thanks and warning. I'd also like to know the answer to that question. Although I have no reason to go back - this build is awesome so far - if you flash Ken's ROM could you then flash back to 183? I would guess that's a big fat no. [EDIT] I see this question was answered - thanks.

Also, may have found a small bug. With wifi on, I get an exchange account error for no connectivity when the screen goes off. I do have the wifi set to never sleep but it still seems to happen.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
AP20 is the revision number for the BL. the 2 things we got to worry about is the BL(AP20) and the radio. all custom roms wont touch bl and radio, they have no reason too, and if they do they will say it!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
BIG FAT NO

and that is a new bug. could you reproduce it and maybe write the steps.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nsaia:
Happens every time. But only when charging. Not a big deal.

When phone is charging with wifi on, screen times out (crt animation), upon wake there's connection error waiting for my exchange account only (I also have a yahoo and gmail which are okay). Wake and clear the error and everything is ok.

If the phone is not charging then no issues. I just may enable the "stay awake" setting and the issue would be unnoticeable.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nsaia:
A couple more questions, although i'm very hesitant to do any modding until I know I can get back to stock. Do the webtop hack and hulu hack work?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
i have not tried either of those, but you should be safe to try them
[Atrix 4G Android Development] demens13:
Something has not been made clear about this update from the start.

Does it matter if your BL is locked or unlocked?

It sounds to me the people that bricked their phones all had unlocked BLs using pudding. Only way for someone like that to go back is using custom sbf with pudding. Correct?

What about those of us that never touched the BL in the 1st place?

From what i understand this Sbf Unlock file (pudding) came from the HKTW BL, right? Thats what made the BLs unlockable, right? So does the 4.5.91 official release contain that same file (or whatever it is) in its BL?

Lets say you did not unlock your BL with pudding, you flashed this OTA. Can you unlock your BL at this point by simply running oem unlock command? And after this is it safe to flash 1.83 sbf or is doing the steps i described the same thing as having an unlocked BL in the 1st place and updating to OTA like everyone did.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] markpaiz:
Performance Update:

Getting past "Ginger-Gate":

-Not a single FC in extensive use for the past 24hrs (obsessive?)

-Super snappy responses, no lag noticed.

-2540ish on quadrant (after all my junk was loaded)

-Battery life is acceptable

-Speed test, averaging 4.5-5mbps down and 1.2 up. (these are what I had been able to achieve before, depending on server load)

Still looking into:

-Free tether hack

-Rooting

-Unlocking BL

-Need to go to an AT&T store and pop this sucker into a lapdock and see what the differences are.

Annoyances:

People *****ing this ROM is bricking their phones. In all logical honesty this rom isnt bricking your phone, you flashing to ANOTHER rom is. Just saying. WTF would you want to go back to froyo anyway? Be patient, fixes will come, and its a lot easier to be patient with sweet delicious Gingerbreads in your hands.

Thanks:

Every dev responsible for this. You did the right thing letting people have this opportunity.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mysticdrew:
Have to flash pudding, oem unlock command will just say not implemented if you didn't.

I could be wrong, but I remember reading some people with locked BL experiencing bricks as well.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] demens13:
Fair enough on the 2nd point about brick with Locked BLs as well.

But still confused about pudding?

The original instructions said that if you are already on GB, go to step 13 which only does oem unlock from that point. You skip the whole flashing pudding part, no?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] msd24200:
The original gb leak is unofficial, moto told kenly that the GB release would not have unlockable bootloader (official gb that is) until later this year if carriers allowed it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jzaslice:
I understand some other users are going back and forth in the posts above but can you maybe clarify if we never unlocked the bl, never used pudding would it be safe to revert back via sbf??
[Atrix 4G Android Development] demens13:
I would also like a confirmation but it think it can only come from someone that did this and either bricked or did not. Not sure if OP knows the answer. The most conclusive post i found is this from the OP in the pudding thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15483124&postcount=57

To me that says, yes, you can brick even if you're not unlocked.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mysticdrew:
That was based on the original leaked GB which had the oem unlock function built in. Unfortunately the 4.5.91 version we installed the past couple days... moto took it out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jzaslice:
Cool, thanks for the that. I hope something comes up after the official OTA gets pushed... But for now I'm loving having this Gb and gonna try to forget the potential danger we might be in lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
Guys, i just finished creating 2 SFA (safe for all) CWM zips for 183 and 234. i will be making a release after a few more test. Im so sure this files are safe, they are been tested none stop on my phone. So hopefully once i release this, sbf is dead for ever for everybody.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] munchy_cool:
will there be a full 2.3.4 ROM?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
munchy for testing purpose at this point, im only doing system and boot. but i do plan to include webtop later.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] munchy_cool:
cool..thanks a lot for all the hardwork
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
You're the man Sam!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AllTheWay:
Ok so after spending countless hours last night I was able to come up with this conclusion. Here is the steps I took to get back to 1.8.3

1.) Flashed a fresh build of 1.8.3 via RSD Lite

2.) Updated to the leaked AT&T 2.3.4 update.zip ROM via android recovery

3.) Enabled pudding

4.) Flashed to HKTW 2.3.4 by flashing the boot.img and system.img via fastboot

5.) Used the modified 1.8.3 with the unlocked bootloader included and was able to flash back via RSD Lite.

I know this worked for me. However when I tried to reduplicate the issues. Flashing to the AT&T 2.3.4 I would receive a error 4 message after the intial boot.

I then tried to just flash the non-modified 4.1.8.3 bootloader and bricked the device.

Not sure if this helps anybody. I'm not even sure if it's necessary to flash the boot.img and system.img from the HKTW before flashing to modified bootloader .sbf 1.8.3 but that's what I did. I guess flashing back to the below boot.img and system.img might work as well but I haven't tested it.

I still am rocking the AT&T 2.3.4 via the update.zip on my personal device. Holding off until Motorola releases the Gingerbread update. I figured that Motorol updated the bootloader to prevent people from going back to earlier builds.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Ilkinansr92:
It would have been nice if they told us before hand so we didnt brick out phones if thats true
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
Didn't know... Why would anyone downgrade?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
Well, since AT&T/Motorola haven't released 2.3.4 yet, why would they need to do that? All the 2.3.4 builds at the moment are leaked builds.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rjayflo:
Since this a leaked build of the official...I think unlocking the BL would be possible for the official release of GB.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
This does not have the unlock implemented you still have to use pudding for that.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] navalynt:
Could someone who did the 4.5.91 update please perform a factory reset then create a nandroid right away and post a zip/rar with the backup in it? I've already done several mods on my phone and completely spaced on getting a nandroid after the clean 4.5.91 upgrade.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
I tried to use that thread to root mine without unlocking...how do I get the preinstall.img installed?

Also, any still have ability to use the customer APN for tether/hotspot? Its not working anymore it fails the validation (which it did before) but it use to launch after validation..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nsaia:
I could never get the preinstall method to work for root. I used the cwm method instead.

There's a thread on getting tethering working.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
CWM with a locked bootloader? I thought CWM was only for unlocked.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] nsaia:
Sorry. I missed the part where you were still locked. My bootloader is unlocked.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
FYI

With this update Netflix play like a champ... I just saw one movie NO FC NO GREEN LINES great video quality

follow the link for download:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1076150

first link on this page
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sir_Brizz:
I have downloaded that, but it won't install on my device. It asks to allow permissions but then says "Application not installed." Any clue why? Am I not supposed to install it but copy it into /system/app?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
Settings -> Applications -> and "mark" Unknown Sources

Good luck
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jzaslice:
Finger print reader, working/not working??

I just noticed i wasnt able to scan to set up the fingerprint lock.

is it working for anyone??

EDIT: A reboot and I was able to scan!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
For the Hotspot follow this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160452

Work great actually I am writing from my lap connected with the 4.5.91 hotspot
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Sir_Brizz:
Okay, well, that didn't fix it but it did make me think to uninstall the haxxed version of it that I had installed and that did it, thanks! :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
I believe you have to have root to do that, no? Otherwise you can't put that file in R/W mode.

Which is why I'm trying to get root...With all the bricking going on, Its not clear to me whether I can use pudding after I've upgraded to 4.5.91...so anyone that knows how to gain root on locked bootloader your assistance would be appreciated.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
Let me ask you something did pudding before? or you never apply pudding to any previus version?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
Never applied...I sure wish I had now though...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
I'm sure preinstall method works on locked BL. Bell users have been using it.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] shirzadians:
So once I've flashed this and then flashed the 1.83 with pudding, is there a way we get back to complete 1.83 stock? I've been searching for the answer but no success.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jruweaver:
Stock as in the ability to use stock sbfs? No not at this time.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
BIG NO

NO MORE 1.83 STOCK

JUST PUDDING SBF's
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
Back to a question I already posted, how do you do the preinstall method.

This link, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15023022&postcount=3 doesn't explain it well..I put the preinstall.img on my card. I may be misinterpreting things here..but it says use fastboot...so I powered on my atrix while holding down arrow and get to fastboot

From there I don't see how I enter any code or point it to the preinstall.img

Any help on how to use preinstall method with locked bootloader would be greatly appreciated...just want to root so i can use titanium backup and hotspot again...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] markpaiz:
I went from stock 1.83 to this (4.5.91) yesterday. Today I followed the Pudding instructions and it worked fine, HOWEVER, my phone did not boot up after, claimed there was "no os found" and defaulted to fast boot, where I completed the Pudding process, fastboot rebooted, and it booted up fine. may have just been me.

After this, I flashed Tenfar's CWM for Unlocked Bootloader, and then CWM Recovery ROOT for any ROM. All of these steps worked fine on 4.5.91, but I did have that strange "operating system not found" error..
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
Did you already try fastboot preinstalled.img? I think it work with both lock and unlock BL

I updated this OTA 4.5.91 from 1.83 stock, then applies pudding sbf and then fastboot oem unlock, with no problem so far
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
Before I can use fastboot preinstalled.img do I need to use pudding?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
1. Download preinstall.zip from that link

2. Unzip it on your PC same folder where you have fastboot tool

3. Turn off your phone, turn on pressing down vol when fastboot showup press up vol

4. Connect your phone to rear USB (desktop) laptop any USB

5. The go where you unzip the preinstall.img and write the following command "fastboot flash preinstall preinstall.img"

6. Wait until sucesfully and the type the following comand "fastboot reboot"

7. Wait until phone reboot and enter to android and go to adb shell

8. Once you are in shell $

follow the rest of commands:

/preinstall/dosu

/bin/mount -o remount,rw /system

cp /preinstall/su /system/bin/

9. Install Superusr from the market
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mounttimp:
Well I just flashed a radio threw RSD light

That was a Sbf it was the 1.8.7.Sbf

Work just like before this install
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mounttimp:
My settings say baseband n 01.87.00r

And my signal is not jumping everywhere
[Atrix 4G Android Development] samcripp:
Guys be careful with radios
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
Ok to gain root try this one:

Download:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OYAZSYOB

and unzip on your PC hard disk

then:

1. Turn off your phone, turn on press Vol down until it show up "fastboot" then press Vol up wait until it said it show up ready

2. Run 1.bat from the files you just unzip

3. wait until your phone reboot to android

4. Check if you have ADB debugg marked Setting-> Application->Development->"mark" USB debugging

5. Run 2.bat

6. Install superuser from the market
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
Thanks a TON...you are the man!!! I tried your first option but kept getting error when trying to run the commands from adb shell. The 2.bat worked perfectly...Thanks again!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mramirezusa:
Your Welcome
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jank0023:
Well...the script said it ran successfully...

Rebooted and tried to launch titanium backup and it says it can't gain root...I already had superuser installed...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jzaslice:
No pudding necessary correct??!!! I've been waiting for safest way to root and looks like jank0023 was able to do so thanks to this with locked boot loader right?