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[Galaxy S II General] daleski75:
sense 3.0 is like bloatware and slows the phone down so why on earth would anyone want that on their lovely fast GS2?

sense was only good when android 1.6 first came out as it made an otherwise ugly os seem more user friendly in my opinion.

android os has come on in leaps and bounds and for me I will always want it as stock as possible.
[Galaxy S II General] Zheiko:
I would like having sense on SGSII, but not that hard, I can live without it... What I would like really more, and it might be good challenge for devs, would be animated switching from landscape to normal view and back...
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
No, if i wanted sense i would've bought another HTC phone, don't get me wrong my HD2 was/is an amazing phone but the best build i had on it was a non sense one (Pongsters CM7-Very fast and stable) i never really could understand why some people were so preoccupied with HTC sense, i didn't mind it but i preferred it without to be honest.
[Galaxy S II General] intruda119:
Show me a phone that runs Sense completly smooth and then ill think about it. People are so obsessed with sense but dont want a htc phone. Then got the nerve to talk bad things about iphones.

It all comes down to widgets. I havent personally meet a android user that uses more than 3 homescreens. And theres better widgets in the market. Sense offers nothing but flipclock and lag.

If this was windows mobile I could see why people wanted sense. It actually was practical and added needed features to the os. For android its jsut eyecandy.
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Well my Desire HD runs sense 3.0 smooth with the virtuous unity ROM :)
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
Really, those are the 3 choices?

Of Course,Not Really or Not Sure. I would have preferred a definitely not option aswell.

People arent just decisive about wanting sense 3, but they are also decisive in Not wanting the sense bloat or the samsung S2. As for being limited by samsung, what utter nonsense. Why would I want to cripple my sgs2 ? If you want sense, buy the htc phones.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSobadef:
Considering that the SGS2 actually has the hardware to run it better then the Sensation, YEAH GO FOR IT!!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] downwiththebanksters:
Sure! It'd be great to try. It'd be great to rub in the noses of my buddies that have the sensation and can't get root.

But yes, more importantly....PLEEEEAAASE give me WebOS!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] ike2903:
You definitively cannot compare Touchflo/touchflo3D/Sense for Winmo devices :D. Sense for Android is much better! And I would like to have Sense for SGSII, too. Why I didn't bought the sensation? Because the hardware of SGSII is better and before the GS2 I had a DHD wich was bad in hardware...two times back to store for repair. So I bought the GS2.
[Galaxy S II General] blunted09:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1091727

found this in the optimus 2x forums. Just a theme but looks identical and probably 1/3 the bloat of actual sense. Maybe ask for permission and port?

I couldnt care for the new sense-sense 2.0 > sense 3.0
[Galaxy S II General] Archer:
I have to agree that you can't compare the WinMo version and Android version of Sense. Where it was WinMo it did actually make sense to use it, as the native UI was pretty ugly and not exactly finger friendly (Titanium was better, but still only slightly covered the basic UI). Sense on Android, however, makes 0 sense to me. It's basically a launcher and some widgets, unlike the original Windows version that was a complete UI.

Sense on Android? No thanks. Why would I want to ugly up and slow down the best OS on the market?
[Galaxy S II General] aydc:
What we need is a pure Android experience, not a watered down version for the iPhone audience. Sense is nothing but a simple launcher and a bunch of widgets anyway. All those widgets have better or at least equivalent alternatives in Market.
[Galaxy S II General] kerman19:
Sense 3.0 Launcher would be nice to have as a choice. But highly improbable without all the other Rosie rubbish that's probably required, even though I'm sure the SGS2 is more than up to the job vs the sensations inferior hardware.

At this point in time I'm looking to do anything that stops it feeling like a kids toy with the absurdly high DPI for such an epic screen, I don't generally mind a bit of size to my fonts but this phone takes the biscuit!

Phil
[Galaxy S II General] maranello69:
that has to be the lamest thing i heard in a while, why on gods name would i want a bloated, kiddie-like interface for my Android, when i can enjoy the spectacular tw4 and its awesome power

i really don't get you guys, you spend a bunch of money on this phone and after that u'r trying to make it look like a cheap htc one, if u really want a custom launcher, try ADW or LauncherPro, even GoLauncher has some amazing features, any of those is far better than the strange sense ui

hey, i'm not here to drop bombs, just my 2 cents ;)
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
What I don't really understand is why would people not like choices?

As of now the S II can only run TW4. Whats wrong in having the choice to have sense 3.0 in it?

That would mean you could put it if you like to or leave it the way it is.

At least you would have the choice. Don't you guys like choices?

If you spend an absolute fortune on a phone then why not have the choice to have the UI of your choice?

I would be crazy to say I don't want choices.

As far as sense 3.0 looking kiddish, well it's personal opinion. If you don't like it don't use it. At least you have the choice.

Right guys?
[Galaxy S II General] OccasionalDroid:
I started the think tank for aprichners port on the NS, it is still not useable after 6 months, the sgs2 is an even harder beast to crack!

Sent from my Sammy Galactic S2 Beastly Device
[Galaxy S II General] intruda119:
I'm pretty sure sgs2 can run more than just tw4. What exactly your not getting from tw4? Or is it just the eyecandy?
[Galaxy S II General] OccasionalDroid:
XDA is all about choice! If people can get two phones in one, then that's great. No one should try and oppose porting, its the foundations these forums was built on!

Sent from my Sammy Galactic S2 Beastly Device
[Galaxy S II General] kerman19:
I use ADW, always have for all my Android devices. For me the lockscreen by default on the SGSII is absolute trash, for a flag ship device they really dropped the ball on that one.

Thank god for Widgetlocker, is all I can say!
[Galaxy S II General] gurpreet3579:
Idea is great i had a nice woking version of sensation ported to my old desire.
[Galaxy S II General] patboole:
This is actually something that intrigued me while I was recently selecting a new handset. In the end I went with the SGS2 because of the hardware and screen, but Sense vs. TouchWiz is an interesting comparison because the UI is a huge factor of a phone's usability.

I never found any good comparison review or list that compared the two feature by feature. That is, what exactly does TouchWiz offer above and beyond a stock Android interface? How about Sense? How do their extra features compare against one another?

A big part of Sense seems to be the iconic flip clock [widgets can provide similar look on any phone], quickly rotating the screens and a 3D effect to the application drawer. None of those have any substance though, is there any tangible benefit to either Sense or TouchWiz?
[Galaxy S II General] NZgeek:
I'm trying to convince one of my workmates to upgrade his Desire HD to a SGS2. He loves the Sense UI on his DHD, so getting it working on the Sammy would be another step towards making him upgrade.

That's assuming that the rumoured Samsung Hercules doesn't do what he wants...
[Galaxy S II General] sandeep10:
I just use the app 'No Lock' voila - no lock screen at all. I do not see any reason to go through one more step of swiping the lock screen out of the way, when I need to use the phone.
[Galaxy S II General] TWiTCommander:
Why would anybody want Sense on their SGS2? If you want Sense, get a Sensation! The SGS2 is perfect the way it is.
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Why would anyone not want a choice between touchwiz and sense on the same phone?

What is wrong in having a choice?
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
No Choice?

Wonder why people are behaving as if you cant' use Touchwiz if some ported Sense to SGS II.

You guys can still stick to Touchwiz if you want to and for the ones who like Sense can use the Sense.

What exactly is the problem in having a choice between two UIs? ;)
[Galaxy S II General] biffsmash:
For me, the sensation lock screen alone would be good enough :D I think it is one hell of a sexy lock screen.

As for getting a sensation for sense ui, the sensation can't handle sense ui its too slow and laggy lol.
[Galaxy S II General] conantroutman:
Your poll appears to be missing an option titled;

"Absolutely not! Why on earth would I want that??"

:p;)

This would have been my post, had I not been beaten to it.
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
The poll has the option of no. you don't need absolutely not because it's rude :p
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
Some stuff I really miss in touchwiz compared to sense:

locations (off line navigation with a lot of extras locations of stores, restaurants, atms etc etc etc)

keyboard: htc's ime is very good, you have to use it to appreciate it, I had swype for a while but reverted back to stock htc

ability to browse friends flikr and facebook gallery from within contacts

htc's email, sms and contact integrations

friendstream widget: all sns stuff in a glance

flipclock widget: press time to access time/alarm settings, press weather to access weather

app drawer: vertical scrolling + sorted on alphabet + tabs for frequently used apps + recently downloaded accessible with an easy swype (like most of htc's menus btw)

excellent pull down menu with quick settings and recently used apps

excellent smart dialer

amazing lock screen with dial

and there is much much more, I don't personally use or I have forgotten these but other people might find them interesting

Once I installed cm7 on my desire, I flashed back within 10 minutes, I wouldn't even install it on the sgs2, it's just so basic
[Galaxy S II General] leeyuan:
That would be the greatest combination!!!
[Galaxy S II General] conantroutman:
I didnt meant to be rude ;)

Its just that "not really" kind of implies that the person may be somewhat undecided and likely to try sense if the option was available.

"Absolutely not" is a more definitive statement that you would not go anywhere near it (without being rude about it).

Dont get me wrong, Im all for there being as many different options as possible for people to choose from, Im just not a sense fan. (On android anyway).

Im sure that eventually, some way down the line, sense will make an appearance.

I'd be prepared for a long wait though.
[Galaxy S II General] biffsmash:
Seems to me that those oposed to Sense on SGS2 (although lets be honest it's an interesting thought that would never happen), are the most aggressive of us SGS2 users lol.

People opposed to the idea spit fire and brimstone while those of us that like the idea are very relaxed and chilled haha :D

Although I love all SGS2 people! :D
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Well Said!
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
I actually disagree... A lot of us are just sick to death of people making new threads about porting sense without bothering to use the search function to search(and read) the previous thread tbat was also asking about sense.

"When is sense coming out?when is sense 3.0 being ported over? Why can i turn my sgs2 into a sensation? I miss sense!!! Touchwiz sux,i want sense"...and so on. Get the idea?

Im all for choice, and whilst sense will never get installed on my sgs2, (and i dont quite really get the fascination with it), good luck with getting it ported over, but i dont think its going to happen anytime soon.
[Galaxy S II General] tosin01:
Some pretty pathetic responses here.

How can having a choice be a bad thing? those saying "why dont you get the sensation then"

Need to take a good long hard look at themselves and why they have android devices or are on this forum. I bet they are the same people who are opposed to those who want an iphone theme on their android handset.

Im ok with whatever, Very happy with my SGS2 and I think its got the best hardware on the market so wont mind throwing whatever possible at it.
[Galaxy S II General] maranello69:
what do you mean, ''can only run tw4''?

tw4 or sense 3.0 are just fancy words for custom launchers + lockscreens, you got a bunch of choices out there for replacing those, i already posted some of them in my prev post, plus that u can use WidgetLocker, which is by far the best lock screen replacement, so there are your choiches...
[Galaxy S II General] Archer:
You had to put that extra bit at the end of that sentence really, didn't you ;)
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Keep it clean

Guys please keep this thread nice and polite.

While any debate is welcome please don't be rude.

Whether you'd like to have Sense on SGS II or not is purely a personal opinion.

While some you have said it will never get ported, it actually may not get ported but if it does you have a choice whether to use it or not.

Please don't take anything personally. :)
[Galaxy S II General] conantroutman:
HAHA yes John, I did. I really really did :)

I dont think I will ever get over the disapointment I felt when I first tried sense on an android device.... but thats a topic for another thread...
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
I don't know how to develop and developing a rom seems quite tedious command line stuff, so I might never pick it up I do hope it will get picked up, it shouldn't be to hard once CM7 is up and running because the current sense port for the sgs uses a lot of the cm7 base
[Galaxy S II General] dlo2008:
I used to have a HTC Touch Diamond with Touchflo (Sense 1)... In the end, it was running Sense 2.5 + Cookies Home Tab. I was very fond of the interface and although SPB Mobile Shell was running slightly smoother I always ran back to sense.

I was hesitating a long time between HTC Sensation and SGS2, I finally chose to take on the SGS2 as my first Android phone. It is so extremely customizable (using ADW Launcher EX) that I have forgotten all about Sense3. I have Sense Analog Clock Dark (with an inbuilt crappy weather forecast), my homescreen kind of looks like Sense, but I don't understand how this can still be an issue. I'm only jealous about the fancy full-screen weather animations (which are actually not that useful).

HTC users love sense because it is good and there used to it. Others don't understand because they don't have the habit of using it...

My choice: of course I want Sense 3 on my Galaxy II!! I would happily check it out, and just get back to ADW if I don't like it! But I won't be bothering developers with such request, as what is stated here suggests that it takes serious work to develop.
[Galaxy S II General] JupiterdroidXDA:
If it did get ported, it would be a very crippled version, and not daily driver quality, Best that can happen is that a super theme gets released;)

JD@XDA

Sent from my Samsung Galactic Crusader S II
[Galaxy S II General] troed:
It males no Sense to have Sense on SGS II ..... ;)

If I would like to have sense I would buy a HTC ....... that then makes sense ...... :D
[Galaxy S II General] zoomee:
Having Sense on my SGSII is one of few things I would actually pay for.

I'm getting tired of the fact NON of the ROM's here have anything other than Touchwiz 4 on them (which i in my personal opinion hate as a GUI).

Yes i chose the SGSII over the Sensation - but the one thing that was pushing me towards the Sensation was the Sense interface - I REALLY like it. but in the end decided not to sacrifice hardware over software (thinking at a later stage the software can be changed).

Surely the evidence of how many people are posting SENSE PLEASE threads shows that it is something highly sought after? As for the sense haters - Why so much hatred? - We all have a choice whether to install it or not, so why can't you respect other peoples desires to have it? - Its those haters that are samsung fanboys that are persuading developers here not to port it (Calling other people noobs etc)

If the LG 2X can have a Sense port, I don't see why we can't - Some people just need to get over the fact that others like to have a choice in what software they use and each to their own.

My answer - HTC SENSE? Yes please!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
Yeah even i want Sense 3 for SGS2
[Galaxy S II General] mariezk:
I don't like sense that much....

But the weather app would be great to install on our SGS2!

The app by accuweather doesn't look that good!

cheers
[Galaxy S II General] Jeremy:
Why not? Sense is much better than TW at any rate.
[Galaxy S II General] ph00ny:
I wouldn't want sense on mine

I'm a fan of minimal designs and sense 3.0 to me was little overboard with integrating itself with every aspect of the OS
[Galaxy S II General] jwonga:
I would love sense. Everyone who has HTC seems to love it, so if I had the option, I would be all over that like a fat kid on a cupcake!
[Galaxy S II General] troed:
Addendum:

I actually DO HAVE Sense :D .................. on my HTC HD2 where it belongs and works perfectly :D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Seems like more people want sense than not!
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
well....its a thread where the people that want sense have voted?
[Galaxy S II General] WeeJockMacFeegle:
Sense is alright, but doesn't do anything that can't be achieved another way.
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Not really mate. There are lot of them who don't want sense have voted too.

Read the thread.
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
I have , thank you. And no, I dont want it. But hey, everyone has different tastes, I can understand why people like it. Up until last week, I didnt like miui either. Now, I quite like it. I don't think I will ever go back to Sense though.
[Galaxy S II General] JupiterdroidXDA:
Maybe we should start a think tank in the dev section, see If we can find a dev like we did with the NS

JD@XDA

Sent from my Samsung Galactic Crusader S II
[Galaxy S II General] Xero Xenith:
I'd like to recommend LauncherPro if you don't like the TouchWiz homescreen / app launcher, etc. I had it on my HTC Hero and it's even more amazing here.

It's a free download, but if you want the exclusive LauncherPro widgets (not necessary) you can buy a code for about £2. :)
[Galaxy S II General] zoomee:
I've bought Launcherpro JUST for that purpose but to quote the OP:

PLEASE DON'T POST THINGS LIKE USING A LAUNCHER ETC. THIS IS TO HAVE THE ORIGINAL SENSE UI ON S II NOT ANY LAUNCHERS.

I still think its very unpolished though! - missing loads of things.
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
+1 to that
[Galaxy S II General] wetti:
Yes it would be nice to have a choice...I like sense 3.0 especially the lockscreen
[Galaxy S II General] sakara:
coming from htc desire...i love sense ui...so yes! yes! yes! ;)
[Galaxy S II General] Chrome1:
Yeah, it would be nice to have the Sense 3.0 lockscreen =)

i don't need the rest ^^
[Galaxy S II General] :
Hate sense. absolutely not required (imo). Others may have different views.
[Galaxy S II General] jacobnorth:
I would really lik e a Sense 3.0 rom.

I got the SGS2 instead of the HTC Sensation because the hardware is just better, especially the internal storage. However, I am disappointed about TouchWiz. It has too much bloatware, the app drawer is not organized, and the UI is deffinately slower than Sense (v2).
[Galaxy S II General] buxz777:
For me sense is a ram hog and i dont like it . I would even go as far as to say i prefer touchwiz :-)

However out of all the launchers etc my fave is go-launcher , it is quality and always getting updates with tweaks etc . I love it and hats of to the devs for some great work

Like i say for me sense is just a resource hog , however choice is never a bad thing and if it can be done for those that like it then that would be good :-) as long as i am not forced to use it :-)
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
Common man who doest like Sense 3 also it will be cool on our device :D
[Galaxy S II General] JJEgan:
Common man who doest like Sense 3

Me for one if i wanted sense i would buy sense phone but i dont want sense and would hate devs to waste time on it .Unless of course it was a paid for app want sense pay for it .

jje
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Liking sense or not is purely your own opinion however making a comment like it would be a waste of time for the devs was uncalled for.

Let the devs decide whether working on sense 3.0 for Galaxy SII is a waste of time our not.
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
But bro wats wrong if people want Sense on their device ? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
Yup man that's true :)
[Galaxy S II General] robstunner:
I love these threads. "Hey I just got a Honda but who wants a Toyota engine in there"!!!

Just get an HTC with sense or wait for a comperable device to drop with HTC. They only come out with like 8 phones a week. If a dev makes it.... cool....
[Galaxy S II General] horusray:
Just youtubed some clips on Sense 3.0 lockscreen. I'm impressed. My answer is HELL YEA!
[Galaxy S II General] tosin01:
I really like that sense lock screen.
[Galaxy S II General] Il_Padrino:
I like it too! Just been messing with one that belongs to a friend of mine, and it looks great! that and the fact that all the widgets are in "3d"...
[Galaxy S II General] Jeegsawk:
I choose s2 over sensation for display. I feel good with tw but sense was my only doubt. If I could have it no other doubts. Just a question- is it legal to port sense to non HTC devices?
[Galaxy S II General] anshmiester78900:
lol :D Even if it is not who cares ? :D :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] wartech:
No sense for sgs 2 ;)
[Galaxy S II General] zoomee:
Shoulda put this thread with [REQ] in the title line to catch developers attention! ;)
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Changed Now!
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Where's everyone?
[Galaxy S II General] maranello69:
This will turn into a trash topic really soon...

Why would someone want to change the osom tw4 with the kiddie like boring slow sense ui

On GTi9100-xdaPremiumApp
[Galaxy S II General] av!:
Are you God? If not then stop predictions.

Also what's kiddie like boring UI for you may not be for others. So spare me the horror of repeating myself and stop posting if you don't like it.
[Galaxy S II General] maranello69:
Chill boy... lol, there are already a bunch of topics like this, same **** in all of them

p.s. just droppin my two cents, no need to freak out... lol

GTi9100-xdaPremiumApp
[Galaxy S II General] nikola92:
Why not we could try everything i am for that we put all avaliable UI's that are on a phone, you may never know what UI is good or bad untill you try it :)
[Galaxy S II General] dragonthl:
Of Course :)
[Galaxy S II General] zoomee:
I don't see people complaining about others using ADW or another launcher.

It would have been much simpler and maybe more effective if the thread was kept clean - answer yes or no simple as. Not trash it by having a debate on why another UI should be allowed on a samsung device or not - That is and always will be an end-user choice.

Maybe this thread should be moved by a mod to the Themes and Apps section - sure it would get more

deserved

attention there.
[Galaxy S II General] lovidore:
Sense was an extremely good launcher, once upon a time. Now it's overbloated with too eye candy. Theres a launcher called senselauncher I believe which pretty much gives the over-all look and feel of Sense 2.1 onwards.

If I want developers to do anything, it would be sense widgets! I am yet to find a good fave-contacts / friendstream widget.

(No one mention Launcher Pro plus please, because I've used it and found Go Launcher EX to be better. And no, I don't like the blue theme of the fave contacts grid from Go Launcher.)