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[XPERIA X10 General] a.monteiro:
Nice review doomlord.

I must be the one of the only ones not that excited with dual core phones, and confirmation that barely any app (or even android itself) take advantage of it only reassures my feelings that this upgrade craze is a bit superfluous, for now.

I wonder if a future release of android will support hardware acceleration, the lag would pretty much disappear even on single core devices... my x10 lags are mostly related to updating widgets and a few slower apps (my sd card is slow too), custom roms and kernels improved the device greatly since stock 2.1 was the only option, let's see if GB will help even further.

And i don't like the trend to make bigger phones, i think the x10 is huge and heavy already, i was excited by the arc's slim design but the screen is even wider. I'm actually more interested in a light device, with a better camera, perhaps a physical keyboard too, these are the features that most interest me. I enjoy gaming though, so maybe a better GPU will also be a factor.

let's see if such a device will turn out to be real in the near future.
[XPERIA X10 General] leo5111:
i think android updates will come for it and make it fly, especialy since its a samsung which they seem to be pretty good with updates, dual core phones are getting more common very soon so the android software will be better tuned to make use of the power im sure.. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
It already gets 3400 stock on quadrant lol
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
quadrant results doesnt mean a thing as SGS2 anyways uses eMMC (thats why the I/O scores are high)

dude u should know better ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
my point is that it is already quite fast :P
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
I have to agree with you on all your points, the phone is very impressive compared to the galaxy s let alone the x10 lol
[XPERIA X10 General] reptile64:
I think that this thread is pointless.. X10 is an old device compared to SGS2, so what's the point mr. writer?
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
please read the title of the thread... then take some time out to read the 1st post COMPLETELY...

i am sure u will get THE POINT OF THE THREAD....
[XPERIA X10 General] -- X10B --:
This is a review dude not versus mode.
[XPERIA X10 General] D4rKn3sSyS:
@Doom, bro, seems like some users have screen problems, check this out , also this video scared me

[YOUTUBE]a1BEia0UU1c[/YOUTUBE]

I'm definitively not buying this untill Samsung get it fixed :(
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
D4 i also had a bad screen, but went to the shop from where i bought it and they gave me a replacement unit (brand new box-packed)!!

if u get a good piece u will NOT REGRET IT!
[XPERIA X10 General] D4rKn3sSyS:
I guess Your words are convincent, anyway, Ill avoid myself from rooting it (yes will be hard), and from flashing kernels/rom (harder), for some weeks or even a month, if I buy It, because it's so much money to get it wasted :p, i'm also sure it's a great phone.

@doom, just for fun, can you upload a image of quadrant with z's trick tmpfs? XD

Btw doom, check this, we still use your corrected chargemon, but now it's a little bit tricky ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
no need for that hack...

Stock 2.3.4 (rooted) (no OC max Freq: 1.2Ghz):

Stock 2.3.4 (rooted) (slightly OC max Freq: 1.452Ghz):

now tell do we really need that i/o hack
[XPERIA X10 General] D4rKn3sSyS:
I just guess that with the tmpfs hack, scores are extremely exorbitant. Great phone, definitively a good choice.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
here i used z's tmpfs hack [a.k.a. :eek: "GOD MODE" :eek:]

Stock 2.3.4 (rooted) (no OC max Freq: 1.2Ghz): [z's tmpfs hack]

Stock 2.3.4 (rooted) (slightly OC max Freq: 1.452Ghz): [z's tmpfs hack]

P.S.: the scores are from stock (rooted) 2.3.4 heavily bloated (200+ apps) ROM... there are lighter ROMs which would give better score :)
[XPERIA X10 General] helixo:
Exactly!!! They always wer!!!! In 2008 when most of the companies had stopped making internal memory phones of mid - range, they still introduced and manufactured the w550i ...... :| ..... lame :s
[XPERIA X10 General] arbelnox:
thank you

Thank you for your nice review~ you have convinced me to keep my X10 instead of SGS 2 despite my heart was so tempted towards the latter ;)!!! LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] VisionNN:
I was actually planning to get the gs2, but after i found out it has no notification led, i changed my mind. I know its a small thing, but im picky when it comes to phones XD
[XPERIA X10 General] Bruce Lee:
@Doomlord

Awesome review. You sure know how to write them. I was thinking of getting the phone but I don't have the money for the 600 dollar phone so I went with the atrix 4G with ATT which has dual cores also and now gingerbread which I am sure you know. :p The phone is blazing fast with those cores, so I understand where you are coming from.

Thanks again for the SGSII review. I always love hearing about other phone specs.:)
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
hi Voelker45,

did they finally unlock the bootloader on the Atrix with the GB update?
[XPERIA X10 General] Bruce Lee:
I think so. I am still trying to understand modding the ATRIX since its way different from the x10 :)

It was definetly unlocked for 2.2 though but I think its unlocked for 2.3

Sent from my Atrix 4G with XDA Premium App
[XPERIA X10 General] kryptoner:
Saw this one now.... nice review!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
Yeah I lurk the atrix forums and the bootloader is unlocked.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
Holy........................................................................

Quadrant needs to be updated with that monster.
[XPERIA X10 General] devadatta:
The battle always is between what we need and what we want

Very nice point of view @DoomLord.

Buying a new gadget is always a battle between what we want and what we need.

(WANT wins many times)

But your advice is very sane.

I will definitely wait.
[XPERIA X10 General] matteaz:
SG2 is the best phone!
[XPERIA X10 General] ujjwal321:
totally agree with your point.. since there are not many things that can be done exclusive on a dual core phone.. why spend almost two times a single core phone which can do the same thing?? for new user sgs2 is a best phone.. but I don't see a significant benefit upgrading to a dual core.. it's just not worth the bucks.. I am currently a sgs user and am totally happy with the device.. the hardware specs is enough for me and should be enough for most of the users
[XPERIA X10 General] iDarkyVM:
Hi DooMLorD,

You've got your SGS2 for a while now, and I was wondering how is your battery life compared with the x10?

I'm not going to buy the SGS2 yet, I'm waiting for a improved version...

Regards,

iDarkyVM
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
spend two times the amount?

The sgs2 is the same price as any of the single core phones out right now lol

I can see the point if you already own a phone and are just waiting maybe another year to upgrade, but if you are in the market to buy a new phone, the price is the same as you would pay for any of the lesser spec'd phones..

Arc, nexus s, etc...
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
yes dude SGS2 is ONE OF THE BEST

battery life is better with the 2.3.4 update... there was a "Android OS process darning battery" issue which seems to have been sorted out...

u are slightly mistaken... SGS2 price, atleast in India is just 30-40USD more than Xperia Arc... so actually its really well priced!!!

(in India) Nexus S is for 450USD... Arc is for 620USD and SGS2 is for 660USD...
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
ahhh see here in Canada they are the same, I can get the sgs2 for less than the arc actually. Arc is $599 I think and sgs2 is only $529, the same price as the nexus s
[XPERIA X10 General] denenatse:
nice review, makes me want to wait for next Gen phones =D
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
I had a chance to try it out today and i was blow off! the colors, smoothness, everything! was just amazing! if this phone is this amazing now, what will happen after a few years after quadcore SGS 3 comes out?
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Arc is $549 from Rogers but you can get it cheaper elsewhere. Not sure where sgs2 is $529, still, hardware wise, there is no comparison. Its just a much quicker phone.

I used it at the Bell launch event, and I couldn't stand it after 2 minutes. (because of touchwiz) Also the material is a bit finnicky. I guess its a matter of personal taste (and the fact that I'm an SE fanboy)

I wish SE would hurry up and release a dual core phone
[XPERIA X10 General] t-c:
I have to agree with the general sentiment here, both have their strong points for me the SE has as good a camera(Im not much into video on phones), it's bulid quality is better and the screen resolution higher. SGS is bulkier but the additional real estate more than compensates. Not beingmuch a a games person(apart from PvZ & ABs) I don't see a great deal of difference in performance between the two. If anything a friend has a Nexus which appears to perform better than both. Battery life on the SGS is quite poor(but this is purely observation).

Haven't looked at the Arc and if it wasn't for my companies carrier contract(refresh a proportion of phones every year) I would have happily stayed with the x10 so if the Arc was offered probably would have taken that?

Given that you can still buy x10(outright) in Australia for about $400 and the rrp for the SGS2 is about $700 if it was coming out of my pocket I couldn't recommend the upgrade.
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
OK SGS2 is a good phone till now but this is not fair cause' everybody know that X10 is the first Android phone of SE and SGS2 is the latest till now. The difference can be seen by everybody that it the SGS2 come one year later so the technology, the technique is very different. At the time X10 was sold, I think it's the most powerful device and now tons of people still use it. And although SE's delayed Android 2.3.3 for a long time, it's still fun when hear that we will get Android 2.3.3 for X10.

What I try to say is the comparison tween these two phone is not fair. Maybe months laterm SE will sell a new phone with 4 cores, high RAM and people using SGS2 will have a new thread compare tween those two phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] JazzLOCO:
tell you the truth here in this forum, this thread, and this post (wow, all the diplomacies ;) )

The reason I got my Xperia X10a is basically because the chinese girl that sold it to me was F-I-N-E (I gotta go back to get HER number, was about to but had to close the deal)

Second reason, this phone is selling in Panama for about $500, on the net tops is $400... she sold it to me for $200 FLAT (after being flirty for the income tax rebound, lol), reason is, it has the bottom left part of the screen going dim if you bump it or so, but with brightness change and a light tap (like the tap I wanted to give that asian a... err, that's another story :cool: ), it comes back (if only I knew the fix would be cheap... after all it seems like a case of loose LCD). If you tell me, it was a deal, since the HTC Google Nexus One I wanted to get was $370, and with the 7% here, it was a whopping $400... still want to get the GN1, but honestly, this beast for a phone called Xperia X10 suffices. Yes, the HTC has a better chance of rooting, as so does the SGS2 (which I like as well), but c'mon, the price was right! ;)

Third of all, the .3" the SGS2 has over the X10 (which has .3" over the HTC GN1) at a lower resolution (same resolution even on the HTC), is a let-down. Besides that, yes, the GS2 is a gargantuan of the smartphone market, but for a guy that uses the phone for music purposes (got my metronome, my tuner, my piano app, and all the business apps needed for the job), it is ok to have the X10; I do have to admit even my prior Samsung Galaxy i5500 had a better audio engine, but Samsung is a korean giant in the Audio/Video department, I can live and let live with the 8000Hz fault it has, especially when alternative apps do the job just perfectly.

I'd say it is best to compare the X10 to a Galaxy S 1, more or less contemporary to each other, and HTC's GN1, or to Motorola's Milestone, or the likes... yes, there in that litigation, the X10 would be not so bad, if you ask... except for the support from their maker and the availability of custom ROMs and the sort! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
And here it is, my first ever phone comparison/review video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC9lteCGOI8

Also, sorry about my English, anyone wanna trade their accent? :D

Also x2, filmed with another X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] josephnero:
+10000000000000000.

we cant compare anything old to new
[XPERIA X10 General] unreal_rik:
Completely agree with OP. I've used my friends s2 and even though the screen is much more responsive and all i would still prefer my xperia anytime !

This thread reminds me,

If the Samsung Galaxy S2 is called SGS, then what do you call Sony Ericsson Xperia ?

lol i hope i don't get banned for this !
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
You are a clever man. I never realized that. Sent from my SEX10.
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
lol But if you can find a word with the Y at the beginning, we have SEXY like the phone does. lol
[XPERIA X10 General] himanthaj:
Awesome :)
[XPERIA X10 General] crimper:
Can someone please compare audio quality (music via wired headphones) on both devices? There's a lot of comparison between SGS and SGSII but I wonder how bad or good X10 is?

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] lameplx:
I've strongly considered upgrading to sII, but I think I'm gonna wait for next gen phones. The x10 development has been doing pretty good lately, so I don't see why I shouldn't stick around a bit longer.:p MIUI has made me fall in love with my phone again! :D

Currently the only thing that is bothering me with the x10 is the half-assed multi touch, but then again there is nothing to do about that.
[XPERIA X10 General] gsanchez1978:
I would say it's like day and night, in every aspect of audio quality.

I had my x10 for one year, the only thing that could really make me go nuts was the audio, when talking with someone, playing a song or whatever other thing related to sound. My new SGSII has great sound, at least compared to my old X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
With Gingerbread, the sound quality of Xperia X10 ( I mean music) becomes awesome cause we have equalizer, Bass Boost, Virtualization.... As SONY is famous of the sound technology with the Walkman Series and so we will have no complain about the music quality of SE phone, although it does not have sound chipset.
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
Heh, nice review. Nothing can complain except screen quality. Most of people don't like AMOLED screen because the colors. Too bright and too deep. I mean it is too gaudily.

One thing make me lol is the accessory for this phone lol, I don't think we need a phone come with another docking battery to charge the main battery in the phone. Why not make the battery last longer?
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Seriously? :eek:

Perhaps if the battery was of bigger capacity,

the sleek slim design would be compromised.

Those are good accessories, really handy,

I wish more companies would release their phones in the market

with additional equiment!
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
Yes, it will come with another battery, but not for hot replace or replace while the main battery is too low. Just to charge the main battery in phone. lol
[XPERIA X10 General] rearview:
I'm going to have to get one of these. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
most people don't like amoled?

I beg to differ, for most people (maybe just not on here) the screen is probably the largest selling point (or at least one of).

Have you seen the viewing angle? Or the clarity outside in direct sunlight?
[XPERIA X10 General] gsanchez1978:
Agree with you, can't complain about the screen either, think its great. Of course, that's my opinion because my phone doesn't have those yellow bands that lots of people are talking about.

Loved my X10, loving my SGS II.
[XPERIA X10 General] anaireg:
Thanks for the review!!
[XPERIA X10 General] LCS2011:
Thanks for you review!!!

I actually have bought Xperia X10 when I was facing a decision between X10 and SGI. When I saw SGII hardware specs I get amazed, but I always thought that you can have the best hardware but what will make a difference is the software, and now the I'm with Wolf's 3.6 tweaked ROM for X10 I even agree more with that statement...

So I wish to know a few things about this:

*Do you like how Samsung customized Adnroid for SGII (please tell likes and dislikes)?

*Are you using stock fw for SGII or custom ROM (which one)?

*If you use custom ROM, what things have improved over Stock ROM?

*Is there a way to change to next track with hardware buttons in SGII?

*Do you like the touch keyboard? Because I really like X10 keyboard over any other android keyboard.

*Can you choose Apps/Services affinitys to processors?

*Have you experienced any bug?

Thanks!
[XPERIA X10 General] keatky:
i love this veast. and thank for the review
[XPERIA X10 General] walidhiphop:
I really don't like dual core cpu's.....

do we really need dual core on a phone....??????
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
lol you don't like dual core cpu?

care to explain why?

kind of a ridiculous statement imo.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
What it boils down to is "I don't like technological advancement"

We don't "need" a 4 inch screen, we don't "need" high resolution display, we don't need 3g/4g, we don't "need" an 8mp camera.

Technology changes, go with it, or don't...

You're perfectly able to go buy a cheap low end flip phone if you desire
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
I think I will buy this phone if:

- Maybe 4" screen is enough and use the same type of screen like SE, it's perfect.

- High resolution

- Redesign, I don't like this design, it's a little of iPhone (I don't like Apple) and the backplate is ugly.

- TouchWiz, it's very simple and I and some people don't like it, it's not interesting. Maybe a new launcher?

- RAM? I DON'T NEED LARGER RAM, 1GB is enough, DOES ANYONE THINK OF REPLACING COMPUTER WITH SMARTPHONE?????. No I won't phone is phone and PC is PC, phone can't replace PC but PC can replace phone.

Of course, it's my opinion and the other may not like this, but it's still my opinion. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
larger ram?

I'm confused, it might be a language barrier. Where are you saying 1 gb is already enough? Yes sgs2 has a gb of ram, which imo is awesome.

I agree that is enough. You seem to be implying that you already have 1 gb though? x10 only has 384 mb.

phone can totally replace pc imo, for many business people on the go, it already basically has
[XPERIA X10 General] walidhiphop:
I agree with you man....phone is a phone and pc is a pc...if you want dual core and a lot of storage and a lot of ram and this lot and big crap than go and buy a freakin pc.....damn...
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
lol the thing is people said the same thing about the x10s gen of phones when comparing them to their gen of phones.

That is technology, if you don't like it, stay behind.

It is ALWAYS going to evolve
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
But do you see anyone go to work even in a IT company with only a smartphone. I beg that, if the phone with 4GB of RAM, 2GHz Core Quad like PC, 1TB internal storage... They will still laugh at him because he is very stupid to think that he can do everything like programming, design, building with his smartphone lol.

This is a good phone, but I wish that it has everything I wrote. That's all, no higher, I have my PC at home and I'm using it and beside me is the Xperia X10 lol. But right now if I have that phone, I swear that I will sell it and buy Xperia Mini Pro or Xperia Arc to use with X10 lol. :D.

EDIT: The ARC in my country right now is around 450 dollars, but the Xperia Mini Pro is only demo lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
well get ready to stay behind, because that is where technology is going....

It is going to advance, whether you like it or not.

Like I said, it may seem ridiculous now, but a 1ghz processor in a phone seemed ludicrous just a couple years ago... Now that is standard at best.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
a lot of business people travel...

the less they have to bring the better.

If you don't think that phones are becoming computers for a lot of people, then you obviously haven't been following technology for the past five or six years.

Mark my words, wait till you see the specs in phones 2 or 3 years from now....
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
OK guy, lol, just use your phone as a PC. I have no idea right now this time lol
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
like I said, wait and see.....

they are becoming more like pcs all the time.

I never said they will fully overtake pcs, but for a lot of people they will do everything they need from a pc.

Not everyone designs, etc... For a lot of the public, they just check email, facebook, use word processors, etc...

Pretty basic things.

Phone technology isn't going to come to a standstill just because you guys thing that what we have now is enough. Like I said, every generation thought that about the new generation (that it was overkill), then those things become commonplace.

That is how the tech world goes
[XPERIA X10 General] silveraero:
So if you do almost on PC, why do you need a high speed processor, higher RAM, higher internal storage??? I don't know why. To let everybody see that "Yeah I'm rich". To play games: "Yes, I play game all the time on my phone". To work chat (video, voice): "Ya, I always use video call and voice chat on my phone". All of this?. The companies, they just make these phone to take your money. lol. So, it's waste time to talk about these thing. I won't say anymore, whatever you think, it's your choice, lol, dual core,quad core....
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
so what do you think people said about smartphones in general when they first came out?

exactly what you're saying now......

Like I said, for most people a phone with good specs will be good enough that they won't need a pc. I don't think you quite understood what I wrote.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I don't think a phone can ever replace a PC.. a tablet might come close

Sure there's some things that don't need a PC, like social networking, web browsing (minimal) but there's things that are just plain easier to do on a bigger screen and a full sized physical keyboard.

Like powerpoint slides.. word documents for that matter. I'm not going to type out my 15 page essay on my smartphone.. and I don't think people ever will. On a tablet.. maybe
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I never said it will fully replace pcs, but for a lot of people that don't have to type essays and only use pcs for pretty basic stuff, they already are and will continue to replace pcs for these types of people..

If you really think it isn't headed towards this, then I think you haven't been paying very close attention to the way things have been developing.

the tablet concept is just proof people want more portability. Why do you think phones are coming out with such large screens?
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
In my point of view,

not even a laptop can replace a PC.. :D

But phones and tablets are becoming more and more powerful,

and that's interesting to watch and speculate on what's the

"next big thing". As far as usage and preferences, each to his own needs! ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
the thing is I already know many people who don't own computers, and only use their phones.

I'm just saying that the shift in more powerful and more tabletesque phones is not without cause :)
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
Sorry to Bump this thread but

I also have this Yellow Tint on left side of screen+and black horizontal thick line on the center of the screen and a big pink spot in camera and it stays even after the snapshot is taken in the image:(

I will take it to service centre after i receive my USB jig(now 20 counts:P)

Some days ago my bro took his phone to service centre because of yellow display problem but they didn't replace it:(

So lets see what they do for me