yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] poweroutlet:
Have you considered the fact that the user experience (and yes this includes benchmarks) is heavily influenced by the software that is running on the hardware? I think too many people are obsessed with the hardware specs of a device and ignore the significance of having an OS and software that fully supports the features of the underlying hardware and is written efficiently. Even the very best hardware will be brought to its knees if it has poor software running on it. I suspect that sense 3.0 is very inefficient and bloated(even though it is functionally nice). I think the performance difference between the MSM and exynos chipset is much smaller than you think.

For example, the Samsung Vibrant ran mind numbingly slow compared to a Evo 4g with a clean AOSP build due to its bloated and poorly optimized android 2.1 OS despite having a superior cpu. Would it make any sense to conclude that the Vibrant's hummingbird cpu is inferior to the 1st generation snapdragon from that? Absolutely not. I think people will be surprised how much more powerful the evo 3d will feel with a proper rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
I shouldn't of mentioned ice cream out loud as I was proofing my last post....I ended having to drive to the store to get my girl some ice cream haha!
[HTC EVO 3D] Razgriz:
I'd rather get the Photon than this iFail clone.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Don't bother man, this guy thinks he knows it all...
[HTC EVO 3D] jdawglx01:
So what major hardware flaw will the SGS2 ship with? You know they can't resist crippling it in some way. Maybe Samsung will change their ways. But I think I'll just steer clear for the next year or two.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Some of you are worse than the iphone stans. I mean it doesnt make your phone worth any less to admit that the SGS2 is the better phone here. And ive been HTC for the last 5 phones ive had but I mean at this point realistically the SGS2 gets the W in this battle. I do like the 3D, but I still dont understand why the web browsing is so laggy as well as sense while running certain live wallpapers.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Does it really matter? Every few months there will be a better phone out. I only wish you could upgrade every 6 months!
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
Either you have not read the thread, or you or ignorant. Sorry for the harsh response, but you contribute nothing to the thread, and come in bashing everyone else who has.

The SGS2 does not get a clear win, nor does the Evo3d.

Any lagginess is from the bloated sense. Ice cream will remedy a lot of it, and so will future updates. Developers will completely kick ass with this phone. Plan and simple.

I am not sold on either...so I am no fanboy.
[HTC EVO 3D] Irishman42:
It will be interesting to see how "laggy" the SGS2 is once its loaded with all the Sprint bloatware. It already has some lag according to many user's on the SGS2 forums. If it ever gets released that is.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Let alone Samsung famous bunk radio and gps...

Who even needs a radio or gps tho.. you get the best benchmarks

sent from a 3devo
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
Haha, right. I mean, with those benchmarks, who even needs it to do anything else!
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
SO you make this post and follow it up by saying that the phone will be fixed with an update that will come out who knows when? Oh ok, just wanted to be clear.
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Raging Thunder 2 looked laggy on the SG2 to tell you the truth. Really, what is more important. Smoother game or more numbers in benchmarks. Umm, i'll take better gaming.

In 3D no less.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
And I guess you two are just going to ignore the numerous 3D's with reception issues? Light leakage? Off center screens? Green hue on the pics? Stuck pixels? lol.. like I said some of you are worse than those iphone folks. I dont see how you can criticize the Samsungs for their radios when HTC has so many issues of their own. Its like the pot calling the kettle black.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
What the hell are you talking about? We have acknowledged there are issues, even though the majority of the phones don't have it. All phones have problems at first, but the galaxy s had numerous, major flaws in the US that the international versions did not have.

Did SGS2 ship with some problems that required updates to fix? Yes, it did, so your 2nd to last post was pointless and ignorant.

Honestly all you have done in this thread is post negative comments and bashed everyone else. Most people here have made claims and backed it with at least some reasonable data. You on the other hand have only polluted the thread.

Thank you, now please go on your way....
[HTC EVO 3D] u921333:
I just want the one with the best dev support and coming from the original EVO I love our devs "no homo"!
[HTC EVO 3D] ngmasterj:
Honestly, I'd say based on that comparison video, the GS2 did load apps and web pages faster than the Evo 3d. But I'd still pick the Evo over the GS2 hands down.

1. Build quality. Samsung phones feel like toys. I want to feel like I bought a real $600 phone, not a Fischer price phone. If your wrists are that weak that the Evo is too 'heavy' for you, then maybe you should go back to a Razor or something. Thinness isn't everything too folks, the SGS2's width is similar to the width of the Evo 4g, which was to me, a little too wide in the hands to hold (and I have fairly large hands). Reaching for the top corners of the screen in either hand was awkward and required repositioning of the phone in hand. Not so with the Evo 3D.

2. 3D. This is a personal preference, but the 3D is pretty cool and forgive me for using an Apple phrase, but it seriously makes normal mundane photos feel 'magical', lol. I would really like to see this technology used more and more in other products.

3. Video. I couldn't see the lower right caption during the video capture comparisons at the end of the video cause the annotations were blocking the phone names, but I seriously thought the first 720p video shown was the Galaxy S2. I found out you can close the annotations and I was surprised to see it was actually the Evo 3D's 720p video. Much more impressed with it than either the 720 or 1080p video from Samsung. Still pictures are another thing though...

4. qHD Display. Colors vs. crystal clearness? Crystal clearness please. Despite the fact that the GS2 did load things faster, the Evo 3D was SLIGHTLY slower by just a few seconds, if that. But it's also pumping out far more pixels than the GS2, and for the E3D to keep up as well as it did with a GS2 while pushing more material on screen, I'd say that's pretty damn impressive. I hope HTC makes a phone with the same internals as the E3D but with the screen in the same resolution as the GS2 (800x480) and compare the two then. My money's on HTC.

The reasons I put up (except possibly video) are completely hardware related and can't be fixed with rooting. Everything else software wise (smoothness, responsiveness, speed, performance, etc.) is completely irrelevant to me. That can all be fixed or modded but you can't hack the feel in the hands, the sharpness of the display, or the 3D effects on the phone. Even without full root, the development on this thing is blowing up. 1.8ghz overclock, and fixes to data connection/call and speaker volume via MHL mod, etc. Imagine what this phone will be like when FULL root is out.

*Edit: Don't buy a phone based on these comparison videos. Both phones are great and you'd be lucky to have either one of them. But the performance on either phone can vary at any point. What happens if the GS2 gets an OTA that slows everything to crap? Or what if the E3D gets an OTA that speeds everything up, perhaps even surpassing the GS2 in every way? You'll be flip flopping between phones never satisfied, pick one and count on its future support, not what it can do right this instant out of the box.
[HTC EVO 3D] 84guy:
i dont understand. people on sprint cant have the gs2. people overseas cant have the evo 3d. comparing this is just for fun. even if i wanted the gs2. i cant have it
[HTC EVO 3D] Razgriz:
Not yet at least
[HTC EVO 3D] Irishman42:
I don't know if you've gone around to different forums and have seen what people who actually have the phone are saying about the SGS2, but every issue you mention about the EVO 3D having, has also been a problem on the Samsung phone. But you can add screens popping out, big white spots on the screen, overheating issues, and severe lag. There's never been an Android phone released that hasn't been plagued with issues by a small majority of users. But the Samsung radio issue has plagued nearly every phone they've released.

I'm not sure where the iPhone fanboy comment comes into play, when people are bringing up a fact about Samsung phones as to a reason they prefer HTC. On this thread you've sounded exactly like what you're accusing others of doing.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike21pr:
+ 12899203890218392830912874302187408374032875082750823758203957 :d
[HTC EVO 3D] squshy 7:
Really? Because those sound eerily similar to the common symptoms of all the evo's that come in to our store (including manufacturer known issues).

Not to mention it took 3 different designs of screen-to-board ribbon cables to finally get it right.

EDIT: also, in my experience the very opposite seems true. That HTC is better with software and Samsung is better than hardware.

Case in point: although the EVO had aluminum casing parts and the Epic plastic, it was the EVO that suffered greatly from damage due to dropping while the Epic stands up very well.

However it was the EVO that didn't suffer from nearly as many f'ed up phones from updates, while the Epic most definitely did.
[HTC EVO 3D] LordDavon:
Is it just my eyes, or was the guy hitting the home button on the EVO without the apps being fully loaded? Doesn't that make them continue to load in the background? Wouldn't this cause additional delay in the next app that was launched?

Why wouldn't he hit the back button to close/freeze the app? This just seems strange to me. Sure, the EVO may have been loading the first app slower, but running a loading app into the background is going to make the next app slower. Then, doing this to the next app will compound the issue.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vindic8ed:
I thought the apps loading test he did was pretty dumb. The SGSII will obviously load faster because it had more RAM available. Sense uses quite a bit of memory to run compared to other UIs. After he cleared the memory the SGSII had about 600mb free while the E3D was around 400mb.

If we were to run the same tests on each phone with nothing but CM(7) on them I'm sure the loading time would be equal. The SGSII will still probably pull ahead in the other benchmark tests though.
[HTC EVO 3D] Uchennadi:
Meh, I wouldn't worry one bit. It just seems to me the closer an app is to it's stock vanilla counterpart, the faster it'll run. Obviously, HTC customized the crap out of the android OS to make sense, so it's stock apps aren't quite as close (code wise?) to the stock vanilla apps. It looks to me touchwiz, though different from vanilla, is closer to it than sense. I would say thats why we see the difference in speed.

Maybe when we can run the same android OS, like CM, on both phones will it be a fairer comparison.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Ill give build quality but I really just dont see qHD as an advantage. HTC's LCD screens are still on the bottom of the totem pole IMO. They just look so bland next to the SAMOLED+ and even the Droid X 2's qHD screen. An HTC phone with a SAMOLED+ and Samsung's camera would probably be the best case scenario for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] justj:
higher screen resolution equals more screen pixels means more computing power needed. GS2 has a wvga not a qhd screen like 3vo 3d.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
Lol....

Samsung still makes plastic phones, right?

I thought so.

I don't care how fast or how black the screen gets.....If it still feels like it's gonna float away in my hands, then, No Thanks, I'll stick with HTC.

If Samsung made cars, this is what you'd end up with:

If HTC made cars, it'd be more like THIS:

The Samsung Car is probably faster...

Would you still drive that if they cost the same?

Edit: (for now, though, the hood on that Mercedes is welded shut, and the throttle is chipped), but that's another story, lol.

Sent from my 3DeeVo
[HTC EVO 3D] derik123derik123:
OP you should make a poll...
[HTC EVO 3D] nhutpham:
I think this is a big reason in the benchmarks, surprised more people don't mention this.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
lol i just tested Smartbench 2011 and it doesn't even support the 3d's resolution. (in fact, the highest resolution it supports is 480x800), the same as the sgs2. I'm tired of people using this as a defense. Both gpus used are both capped at 60 fps, so not really sure why sgsii still scores way higher.
[HTC EVO 3D] PaulB007:
Slap an AOSP rom onto the 3d when the time comes and maybe we will see the SSGS2 get raped in benchmarks, but as long as the hog known as Sense 3.0 is on this phone there is no hope.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
You really think sense is slowing it down more than 40% in benchmarks? (if its supposed to be faster than sgsii)
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Sense 3.0 is smooth to me... But I know its atleast 30% drain on the OS

3D > iClone
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espofunk:
Hi all,

I downloaded from dev***er.htc.com the following:

HTC Wildfire - Froyo MR - 2.6.32 kernel source code

i think this is only the kernel source code, can anyone confirm that?

Where i can find the full source code for the htc wildfire? is possible?

I need to rebuild a source code with some patch for the wildfire, if I use the google generic one:

$ repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git -b android-2.3.4_r1

is then possible to flah the wildfire? or i need the nexus one (developer terminal)?

thank you all

bye stefano
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbesso:
The full source code of the original HTC Wildfire ROM is not (and will most likely never be) available.

They only release the kernel source code because they're legally bound to do it by the Linux kernel license.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zbreakz:
MMS not working everything else works. Running ACS SRF 1.1.1 ec05modem. Also notice every now and then I get and error popup saying something like "error 104:... " any help?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LunaticWolf:
Are you clearing the ram at level 2?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zbreakz:
No, should I? I've only ever done the clearing at level 1, and I rarely do that.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flimsy888:
I would update to SFR 1.2 then right after (before booting in to SFR) flash Twilight Zone Kernal. Then if your still having problems I would suggest trying the EE03 Modem.

And if that doesn't work you could always odin back to stock and reflash sfr!

I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or the current economic crisis. Please do some research if you have any concerns this process before doing this! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martyman19828:
Installed 4.5.91 beta 3 over HKTW and stuck in bootloop. Has anyone found a fix this without flashing back to 4.1.26 or earlier stock builds? I've tried wiping user data, cache, and restoring HKTW through CWM and that loops as well. Wishful hoping I wouldn't have to flash back. Found no help in the 22 pages in the original developments portion of the forums.

Edit: Resolved with 4.1.83 service sbf flash ---> flash pudding ---> cwm ---> 4.5.91

Edit: Passing along warning with above method. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160408
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danthemanz:
Wasnt an issue for me.

Wiped my HKTW, installed beta 3, wiped again and booted ok :)
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
Whipped this up for the KennethPenn's Beta release (which is deodexed).

It's based off the 4.5.91 system files.

Themers can use it as a base.

Flash with Tenfar's new CWM.

Enjoy, and I am not responsible for your actions.

Downloads:

No Carrier

With Carrier

Uninstaller
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] grave101:
Whats the screenshot app you used to take this screenshot? I've seen a ton of people use it but never knew what it was called

Thanks for this mod though, I plan on flashing this as soon as my install of 4.5.91 finishes
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] ahmarchi:
trying it out! thank you
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] CaelanT:
Look here ----> Screen Grabber
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] LayzeeEyez:
Dammit, limited to 5 thanks lol

Anyways thanks for this Nottach!!
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] coldfusionb:
Thanks!!! Works great.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] snoopy72:
Works perfectly.

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] ahmarchi:
works perfect... thank you again
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Swiftks:
Where the piss did the wifi signal bars get moved to in the framework-res? Don't see them after de-compile.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
systemui.apk
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] coldfusionb:
Started out working now its stuck at 90% and wont move any ideals.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
havent made it to 90 yet. ill see if i can reproduce it.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Swiftks:
error when recompiling framework-res.apk... won't finish the re-compile.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] coldfusionb:
Thanks!! I have tried reflashing it with no luck. May have to start over and reflash rom to fix.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
Did you change something? Just tried again with the file straight from the zip and it recompiled fine.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] coldfusionb:
Update. It just went from 90% to 80% with no change between.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] kbello:
that was fast!!! thank you
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
Hey sorry but I made it to 89 from 90 no problem. Maybe charge on a wall outlet until you know its full then wipe battery stats with CWM?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
sounds like you need to wipe cache and data. as stated before, i had no issues at 90 to 89, or 88.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Swiftks:
Cool... yeah, a few .pngs must have gotten by me that are no loner in the framework... fixed now. thx
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] nathanmurray:
question

I am on 4.5.91, but i am NOT de-odexed. I want to get rid of the AT&T and change over to the blue battery that this has though. I understand that it will not increment in 1%, but will it still work, just be on 10% jumps on the battery ? Or will it not work at all ?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] binhk88:
Can I use it with Alien 4 rom?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] hoodlikegaza:
This looks like it's for deodexed only...
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
I'm not sure but I think you are correct. But you should just flash a deodexed ROM so you don't have to worry about it. Such as, The DarkSide.

Yes.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] nathanmurray:
nice !

flashed with CWM and working like a charm !

one thing, make sure that if you try to flash this your ROM is de-odexed. i made the mistake of flashing it on the OTA odexed ROM and it was no bueno. that is my fault for not reading.

i updated to Alien v4 ROM and re-flashed and is perfect. thanks !
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] polaris441:
Is there any 1% fix + no carrier without modding battery icon?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] h33t:
Could someone clarify what's de-odexed? I'm guessing this does not work on the Bell Atrix 2.3.4 GB build?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
Nope. As there would be no point.

Will not work on Bell. Odexed vs. Deodexed.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] polaris441:
But I saw that alien rom could have 1% batt mod without changing the batt icon in status bar. The reason I'm asking because I would like to use 3rd party batt status bar.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] hgpot:
All that I get from downloading this is attachment.php, nothing else.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Nottach:
That's a browser issue. Just change the extension from php to zip.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] bjjkills:
Is there a way to get black contacts,thought I had before I updated the darkside rom to 1.5,then did this theme over it...becouse its the best.thank you

the darkside of atrix
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] bapaogoreng:
Hi, I tried the 1% mod uninstaller zip, but it didn't work. Any idea how to revert back to the original 10% increments? I'm on stock 4.5.91.

Thanks :D
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] LSUtigers03:
I guess this is another reason for me to risk my Atrix and try unlocking the bootloader. The 10% battery increments is VERY annoying.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] appl3mac:
I would like to Thank the OP for this works great on my DX 2 Atrix Rom :-)

Sent from in Your House.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] fleurdelisxliv:
just do it its easy :D
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] LSUtigers03:
Yeah but I'm on 2.3.4 and I'm a little worried about not being able to get out of the soft brick that the automatic method causes. My fingerprint scanner isn't working so I may get it fixed then unlock. Just so I don't have to send Moto an unlocked phone.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] fleurdelisxliv:
yea i wld prob get that fixed but i used this and it worked great http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 even though i was scared i just made sure to get everything i needed first and did alot of reading :)

EDIT: i see you already know about this way of unlocking :o
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] LSUtigers03:
I've asked a few questions in that topic. I have all the files and I've gone through the DOS file just to see how it works and what the steps are. I'm going to try it after I get my fingerprint sensor fixed.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] ghost_og:
Success! + a few ?s

I just successfullied installed this after flashing a deodexed stock GB system.img file and everything is as it should be. As I was reading the thread I came across a couple posts that I had similar questions about:

I think he meant that originally the "+" side of the battery pointed right, and the drainage went from right to left. With the mod this is switched, with "+" facing left, and drainging going left to right. I've attached pics.

Essentially, I think they're asking the same thing. Is there a "stock" green battery icon that just displays the 1% increments without flipping or changing it to blue.

No idea if Nottach even checks this thread anymore, but I thought I'd bring it up since I was wondering the same thing. I'm trying to keep my setup as close to the stock ROM as possible, just with performance tweaks. If this isn't easily available then I might start trying to mess with .png files myself. Seems like it might be an easy entry into trying to do minor UI changes.

*Edit*After actually using it I see how it changes colors. Pleasantly surprised. :D
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] ghost_og:
Is this why my battery stats were completely flat until 94%? I was scouring the forums trying to figure out why the graph under Battery Usage wasn't changing. Haha, I performed all sorts of re-installs, data wipes, and reboots trying to figure this out.

Then I noticed my setCPU battery was at 100%(icon 96) and recalled this answer you gave about the icon animation. I waited until the icon was at 94 and sure enough the graph started working properly.

Just a heads up to anyone else who might freak out upon discovering this.

*Update*Ok, it looks like I am having an issue. My battery stats seem to only be saving each 10% increment history, and then resetting with each new range. i.e 100-95% was flat for about an hour, then 95-85% will display, etc.

I've attached a screenshot for the current range (85-75 or "80"). I tried re-installing the mod, but no luck. Any ideas?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] DJeneral2:
I just tried flashing this and it won't take for me; I'm on stock 4.5.91 deodexed with faux's kernel and Diviance's EXT4 script.

Any reason either the kernel or EXT4 would cause an issue?

Radio is .30P
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] J@T:
Oh man... I'm so happy right now. My carrier name (AR PERSONAL) was taking like half of my notification bar.

I'm with the Stock (and rooted) 2.3.4 from AT&T btw.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] lebmb:
thank you, this was just what i was looking for
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] AtrixMaximus:
works well