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[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
I've had most brands, for real, and i can honestly say that SE has the best software engineers making devices that dont get sluggish and need constant reboots etc, like nintendo, never highest hardware spec but they always deliver the best gaming experience.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
How would that be the case??

Where are you reading the sgs2 breaks constantly, etc...??

You are adding a false dilemma, just as I stated.

My comparison didn't use fallacies to prove a point at least.

Both were good cars, with one just being a higher class with a better engine.

If the sgs2 "breaks down every 20 miles" why is it so well regarded by everyone else other than people on this board? At least the reviewers have no bias, so they are looking at the phones, not the brand behind them.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
A friend of mine had an SGS and i was peeking at his screen and it was blueish yellow... is that what super AMOLED is...
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
blueish yellow??

I have seen plenty and they never had this issue.

The display is amazing.

Like I said though, if you have to create issues in order to try to prove a point, that just goes to show that your logic isn't as sound as you think.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
And whoever said the arc is the best single core phone is wrong. My inspire 4g would like to talk to you.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
My Arc would like to talk to you as well :)

TO OP:

I'm not getting into the whole SGS2 vs Arc debate because:

1. All I've seen of the SGS2 is from reviews, since the phone isn't available in Canada yet, and I don't think I would be in a position to judge it fairly

2. The OP said he wants to stick to SE

Anyway, I see that most of the people here don't even own the Arc, and are basing their description on reviews, videos, or from playing with it for a few minutes in the store.

I would say, don't get the Arc...the specs are really too similar to X10. Early this year, sometime around CES, Sony Ericsson said there would be another bunch of smartphones releasing after Q2, ie, with newer hardware than Arc, Play etc (Don't quote me on this, but I remember reading that somewhere)

How is Arc better than X10?

1. Design. (depends on personal opinion)

2. Weight. (depends on personal opinion. I think the Arc's weight is just right. Anything lighter would be a mistake)

3. Camera. (personal opinion. Exmor R or not, daylight pics are a lot sharper and vibrant than the X10)

4. HDMI out (depends if you want it..I don't really use it)

5. Slightly better hardware (newer processor etc)

6. Newer OS, faster updates (this isn't certain, but SE seem to be keen on providing quick updates. Arc will get Ice Cream Sandwich as well. I haven't played with Sense 3.0, but I feel the overlay is better than anything else I've seen - Touchwiz, MotoBlur, iOS etc)

7. Higher in-call volume (and I mean a lot higher)

8. Screen

The last point is the most noticeable difference.. both in terms of colour output and the quality of the digitizer.. its nothing great compared to current smartphones, but a huge upgrade from X10

What's wrong with the Arc?

1. 3.5mm audio output: Maybe its just me, but I felt the X10 has a lot better quality (and higher volume) through the headphone out. The speaker is better than X10's

2. Slightly better hardware: Yes, this is more of a minus than a plus. The Arc should have launched with the latest harware and then it would be selling like the SGS2 is selling now (3 million in 55 days!!)

3. The occasional lag here and there: I guess that happens with any android phone, but its more noticeable when the phone is running like silk the rest of the time :p

TL;DR?

Don't get the Arc, wait for SE's new flagship device for this year. Since you want to stick to SE, I know that you, like me, feel that SE makes the best looking phones out there, ie design is important to you. I'm assuming the Duo (or whatever it will be called) will improve even more on the Arc's good looks. If the hardware is still disappointing, then yeah, look for some other phone

So why did I buy the Arc? I didn't, I won it :p I would have bought the SGS2 if I could afford a new phone every year, but Rogers makes sure I can't do that.

Ironic that they were the ones who gave me the Arc
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
and how the hell do you know that if you dont own a sgs2 ?

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
This is ridiculous. You (snoobysnacks and zodiac) degrade most people in this forum as SE fanboy idiots, yet you don't admit that for some people performance is not all that matters, and there are OTHER PHONES PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE.

You call US fanboys, yet fail to grasp the fact that some people like the Arc better than the SGS2, for whatever reason!

Is it that hard to understand?
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
once again, you're quite mature and it shows....

All I said was that I don't think it is enough of an upgrade from the x10 to use an upgrade credit on...

That is my own personal opinion, I'm entitled to that.

You guys seem to be the ones who have trouble grasping that not everyone will agree with you.

I even said that if you really want to stick with SE, maybe wait till a better se phone gets released.

Again, my opinion.

Apparently people having other opinions really bothers you and xperia84!
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Maturity? Who are the ones who have called us idiot fanboys? Two are playing at this game, don't act all innocent like you are the mature one.

Opinions? You have called anyone who thinks the arc is better as 16 year old fanboys. Real mature, there.

But, I'm sorry, you are the mature one here, right? The one who is innocent and we're the bad guys attacking your views with ignorance, right?

You can just keep on thinking that.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Read through...

I don't care what you like or don't like, to say the sgs2 sucks shows you're a fanboy.. That's what xperia84 said right off the hop.

I never once said the arc sucks, it doesn't.

There is wanting something, and there is also not personally liking something, but also being willing to admit it is good.

When you're willing to convince yourself of untruths simply to remain oblivious, then you are a fanboy...

I have said many times arc is good, but better exists and I'm sure better will be coming from see themselves soon.

Think what you want about me, but have a second read through the thread perhaps
[XPERIA X10 General] xtbk9999:
Its just like not everyone is after performance cars.. Arc would probably do 80% of what SII is capable of, while SII is not even close to 20% of what Arc has to offer, in terms of design.

but talking about performance cars... they could be both elegant and powerful.

Galaxy phones just fail.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
to each their own, but look at even the difference in gpu performance.. Sgs2s processor, even if it was only single core, is much better.

The difference is performance can be tested objectively, design is strictly subjective..

The arc can definitely not do 80% of what sgs2 can though ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Also it's "failing" its way into being the best selling android phone of all time
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Read through...

not once did I say the SGS2 sucks.

In fact, in the quote you quoted, I didn't mention the sgs2 one. I don't have a problem if you prefer it.

What I do have a problem with is your attitude as if you are the innocent one, and we are the only ones bashing and attacking you. Hypocrite.

You question my maturity, when you yourself are not mature. Good one.

Don't ignore your weaknesses and flaws just to put a point across.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
You didn't read my post obviously :)

I says xperia84 said right off the bat the sgs2 sucks.

You guys can't handle difference of opinion.

You're only like 16 or 17 I bet..

Am I correct?
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
I can't speak for Xperia84 so I'm not going to get into that.

And there you go again, ignoring my question about your maturity, while making an immature stab at my age!

Stop being a hypocrite, as i've said before.

anyway I'm done here, don't want to get banned, and this can go on forever.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtbk9999:
If you talk about benchmarks.. yes Arc is not there to compete.

But talking about user experience on a daily basis, both phones would let you browse, shoot photos, gaming...etc. but S2 would only be a marginal faster, despite its top benchmark score out of all android phones out there.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Actually my question was not a stab, I'm genuinely asking if I'm correct in my assumption.

It is more so the fact that you are getting angry at those not sticking up 100% for se.

Hell I even said to wait for a better se phone and it still angered you guys.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Depends what you do with your phone though, for gaming, hd recording, or watching videos, the gpu in the sgs2 destroys that in the arc.

Like I said, the arc is a good phone, but adreno/qualcomm isn't the way to go right now imo...

Hopefully the se duo will pack more if a punch
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
Arc is hardly an upgrade & a waste of money, Personally I happilly stick to my X10 for a while until it's totally completely outdated & the full power of dual cores is unleashed
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
You are still missing the point. I said you can prefer the arc for whatever personal reason. That's entirely up to you but you have to be delusional to think it's a better phone. Like I said before, a person can prefer a lexus to a merc but they'd really have to be on drugs to believe it's a better automobile. Objectively the merc is the greater feat of engineering and everyone knows that even toyota themselves. The same applies to comparison between the arc and sgs2. Indeed the comparison is insulting to all the hard work put in by samsung into creating what has become the gold standard for smartphones. The sgs2 and sensation are next gen phones while the arc is at best today a high end mid range device. You can choose it for it's fantastic design but don't fool yourself into thinking it's something that it clearly isn't. If you bought it for it's style then have the bravery to say so. Stop trying to talk up the phone, that's just self delusional stupidity.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
STOP ARGUING HERE IS AGAIN SOMEONE THAT'S RIGHT AND STAYS ON TOPIC!!! SO HE IS NOT OFF TOPIC.

And yes before fanboys say dual core power is already unleashed, the software running on the SGS2 is not optmized for dual-core!!! That also means that battery will be draining when the 2nd core is being used!
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
it doesn't bothers me that other have a different opinion, the thing that bothers me is when people don't read the op.. Samsung have nothing to do with SE so I dont understand why you even mentioned them.. And the op asked if arc is better then X10 amd if it has the same good comments like X10 and the answer to that is yes. I dint understand why people that even dont own a X10 is in a X10 forum to spam about Samsung and dont follow the topic!

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
How do you know they don't own x10s. Another example of the self delusion I am talking about. Most people here either own x10s or are ex-users. Why on earth would a galaxy s2 user come to x10 forum when there is infinitely more going on in their own forums. You can carry on fooling yourself as that seems to be the story of SE fanboys. This debate was started by the fanboy xperia84 who said, and I quote "sgs2 sucks get the arc. Typical fanboy behavior, start an argument based on emotional bias and start crying when the illogical nature of their arguments are exposed.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I don't own an x10?

lol

Geez I guess I don't know my own phone model then...

This thread is lulz.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Actually if you know anything about technology, dual core is actually better on battery life when both cores are used
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
For goodness sake, this thread is really peeing me off!!!

Why are u ALL creating unnecessary arguments? This forum is full of immature children, you can't start a single topic about anything without phrases like "fanboy" and being called an "idiot" if people don't agree with your views.

MY CONCLUSION:

Have your own opinions and EXCEPT OTHER PEOPLES OWN OPINIONS. There is no need for personal attacks!

IF YOU HAVE A PERSPECTIVE ON SOMETHING IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU RIGHT! IT JUST MEANS THAT IS UR OPINION.

ALSO JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID "I WOULDN'T GET THE ARC, THE SG2 IS BETTER PHONE........HAS HE GONE SO FAR OFFTOPIC THAT HE NEEDS TO BE CALLED AN "IDIOT" OR A FANBOY? JUST BECAUSE HE BELIEVES ANOTHER PHONE IS BETTER THAN WOULD U BELIEVE?

I'm never owned a Samsung SMART phone and am not a fanboy of ANY company. But judging by current REVIEWS and phone specs. IF I WAS TO BUY A PHONE RIGHT AND WASNT WORRIED BY PRICE I'D DEFINITELY LOOK AT SG2 BEFORE ARC.

DOESN'T MAKE ME A FANBOY.

ITS ALL ABOUT PERSONAL OPINIONS, just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

It seems this forum is full of over aggressive individuals who can't take any sort of opinions but their own. ITS JUST A PHONE! STOP BEING SO BLOODY DEFENSIVE!

Forums are for discussion not arguments, ITS ALWAYS THE SAME FEW INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO REPLY TO PEOPLE IN AN AGGRESSIVE MANNER AND LOOK DOWN UPON THEM IF THEY DONT AGREE WITH THEM.

U KNOW WHO U ARE! PLEASE CALM DOWN AND THIS FORUM MIGHT ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERED AS A MATURE GROUP!

Now who wants to start on me? I bet I can think of a few names?
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
This is the most fun thread ever, becouse it's plain stupid :D oh, and sgs2 is a broiler :)
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
This WAS the most fun thread, but now maxfon and laser are battling it out. Check in general section.. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] geordie 34:
My God didn't think this would have caused so many arguments don't know y there is so much crap about sg2 I hate the layout of this phone my other half has the LG optimis 2x dual core nvidia processor all the bells and whistles same as sg2 and you know what still prefer the x10
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
i Know people on This forum cant stay om topic, and when I called him an idiot was after he called me a idiot! And the reason I said sgs2 sucks buy an arc was because this thread don't have anything to do with Samsung the OP clearly said he want to go with a Sony Ericsson phone, and was intressed in arc and wanted to know about the arc comments about THE ARC. And like the OP wrote in the quote up here you can clearly see he don't want anything from samsung. So stop talk about the sgs2 and I'm also aloud to have a opinion and if I think Samsunggs2 sucks I'm aloud to.. And about that about not owning a x10 I took my conclusion because one of then have "sent from my samsung" in his/hers signature, or something similar.

@OP I have answered your PM.

Edit: I had misstaken about the signature , I looked back and didn't find it, but there is one think more, if you don't own a Samsung and don't own a arc then how can you know it so much better? But I'm done worth this know

If you wonder anything OP you can pm me.

Cheers!

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] geordie 34:
Cheers for your comments about the arc obviously I will test to the Max before I go for it I get my upgrade my xperia is brand new as which is a bit if a strange story that ended up being a massive result wont bore you with it unless you want to hear it
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Did you see my post? :p
[XPERIA X10 General] geordie 34:
I did and found it very usefully lucky you for wining the arc things like never happen to me
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
lol I love the way you justify your unnecessary comment which caused all this crap, you said sg2 sucks because this thread was about arc, that really makes sense, hehe
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
it was not unnecessary, I think sgs2 sucks and its butt ugly.. But enough of this now!.

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Come on...you can't honestly think it sucks, but i agree it's ugly.
[XPERIA X10 General] Prodigy:
Its prettier than your avatar ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
in my opinion it sucks. I don't know if its a language barrier here but sucks for me is that I don't like it!

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
There's a difference between not liking it and saying it sucks.

I don't like the SGS2 myself, but i won't say it sucks, because I'll give credit where credit is due. It's a damn powerful and futureproof phone. I think the looks of it suck, but overall no, it doesn't suck, I just don't like it.

Ofcourse that's your opinion and i respect it, but generally there's a difference between something that sucks and something you don't like (imo)
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
The difference between you and him is that he is a fanboy bereft of any sport of objective reasoning.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
-.-:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] dante-fu:
How could it possibly suck if it doesn't have mouth or any other suction hole??
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
I'm not a fanboy, htc sensation is a great phone for example, but I dont like Samsung and I don't think sgs2 is all that and this thread was about the arc from the beginning. But I love my X10 and I will gladly buy a arc when my contract goes out, And I prefer Sony Ericsson if that makes Me a fanboy I'm proud to be one!

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Proving my initial point by the minute :)
[XPERIA X10 General] geordie 34:
Bloody hell ppl was only after advice on the arc not a samsung se war
[XPERIA X10 General] llama69:
Um.. am I the only one who read the original post as "should I go with the arc (or should I go with something else)?" - bit in brackets is implied surely? How is offering up the sgs2, or any other phone at the same pricepoint going off topic?

Unless you all think the question is should I get a new phone or just stick with the x10 indefinitely?

Any chance of a reasonable discussion for once? C'mon its not like Trip is here is it? /controversial
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
alright, even I don't like Samsung and love the Arc, but don't say it sucks, that's a strong word and it's asking for you to be flamed at.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
maby so but sucks in Sweden isn't so bad/hard word, is just something you say about something you don't like and if it is something else in a nother country I can't know.. And if people will flame me for that, they are welcome, I don't care and my life wont change, I will be as happy as I were before :)

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Let it be, you can't change fanboys or newfags.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
hahahahahha oh the irony... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] geordie 34:
Mods can you please delete thread this is getting stupid
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
??? It's ironic you're calling us fanboys, yet he is the one who said the sgs2 sucks, which is just ridiculous.

I never said the arc sucks once...

Anyhow this thread should be deleted, I agree with OP. It's a waste of time and space
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Did I call you a fanboy LOL? Are you crazy or something that you read things I've never said to you? Did I say that the SGS2 a bad phone is (I said it misses stuff, for you that sentence means that it sucks?)? LOL, please read my posts carefully before you attack like that ;) Maybe some thinking would also help ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
You said to xperia84 you can't change fanboys...

I'm sure the implication is pretty obvious.

Anyhow I'm done with this thread
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Did I call who is a fanboy? Did I mention you? NO!
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YLegend:
Hi,

I just installed a nightly build of CyanogenMod "cm_legend_full-124" on my HTC Legend, which I downgraded from 2.05.461.52 to 1.3 first in order to install CM7.

CM7 is successfully installed, but I kept getting an error message popping up saying "Sorry! The process com.android.phone" has stopped unexpectedly. Please Try Again". I traced the error to the "Settings > Location & security settings > Set up SIM card lock" area, where I found that "Lock SIM card" is checked. I tried unchecking it and it asks for a pin. I have two pins and two PUK codes given to me by my cell provider. I tried them all and it didn't work.

At one point, the cell phone randomly connected to the network, and I was able to use the phone, but then 5 minutes later it stopped working and is giving the same issues and I cannot uncheck the "Lock SIM card" box.

Please note I never locked the sim card, nor do I need or want it locked. I don't think it really is locked, I think it's some kind of CM glitch. I also had the problem when I tried the CM7 Stable release, which is the ROM I tried first.

Did anyone else have this issue, as well? If so, what did you do to fix it. I have spent countless hours searching both Google and these forums and I cannot find a solution.

Thank you.
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonesy:
Try a stable release of CM7, There is a thread somewhere for nightlies and issues find it and check the thread for teh same error
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thi3um:
i get this problem with the 108, i turn my phone in plane mode ( to avoid pin loop), did a full titanium backup, flashed a non cm7 rom ( b08), and finally flashed the nightly and did the titanium restore.

work for me.
[Off-topic] k0sh:
so i check and there is no thread for it .

just show us your signature using XDA app or Tapa-talk app or whatever app you use

mine is

Sent From Hell To Take Your Soul
[Off-topic] idavid_:
Boring sig. I would try something more interesting, but I don't want to look weird in dev sections :p

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[Off-topic] twitch351:
This is mine.

-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
[Off-topic] k0sh:
i have been seeing this signature until i become afraid of android :D
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Look down...

Sent from either my N1, NS, or Sensation 4G
[Off-topic] k0sh:
this is Guess Signature :D
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Pretty sure your all familiar with mine, had a few but I like this one.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[Off-topic] k0sh:
i'm familiar with this i think more than them :D

nice one though , but mine also count :p
[Off-topic] watt9493:
Look

Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
[Off-topic] thatlonedude:
I like the name shooter instead of evo 3d

shot from my double barreled shooter
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
This is someone with three fones tired of the "silly girl, why u post here, u no have ( insert N1, NS, or Sensation 4G here )." comments....

Sent from either my N1, NS, or Sensation 4G
[Off-topic] idavid_:
People actually say that to you? :eek:
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Yup.....

Did I just ....Nah, wasn't me.