yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] krash183:
I was going to try the root explorer method but I don't seem to have the init.d file.... I'm on stock rom + root + overclocked.... is there something I'm missing here?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] nicknowsky:
surprisingly Ive been using android device for over 2 years now and I ve never seen that app AutoKiller Memory Optimizer Does this app offer the optimal settings when you open it, or do you have to tweak the settings? The values shown are:

Foreground app
Visible app
Secondary server
Hidden app - 12288
Content provider - 14336
Empty app - 18432

The last 3 settings are the ones that are adjustable
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] XsceneXhippieX:
i honestly think this script does something completely different than autokiller (which i used religiously since i got my first android until last week when i switched to scripts similar to this) because autokiller will adjust your oom values in real time yes, but to my knowledge it does nothing with the vm info as many of these scripts do, i think that is the main difference and it does make a noticable difference not only on my tablet but also on my phone from personal experience, i have also found that the "advanced" portion of auto killer's settings menu with all of the check boxes can actually hurt performance on roms like cyanogenmod because internal tweaks were previously made and using autokiller's "tweaks" actually cause a degradation in performance in both benchmarks and user interface fluidity. mind you i used autokiller mem. optimizer for around a year before i made the switch to ram scripts, and im surprised with how much of an improvement ive seen since the switch personally and would reccommend switching to anybody now
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] nicknowsky:
Thank you dude, thats all I needed to know. Im gonna flash the script see how that goes, cause like I said all this time I never used any Memory opt. apps
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] nicknowsky:
by the way, Should we be partitioning the SD cards for the transformer? I dont see a reason to, but after being a G1/32b owner for as while, I partitioned by cards in the past religiously
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Digiguest:
No need to. There is no benefit to it.
[Nook Color General] breebauer:
I'm wondering if there's something I can do/change to get more time with continual use out of a full battery.

After 4 hours of web browsing, my battery is down to 40%.

I'm on cm7 7.1 with 6/30 kernel

Nook Tweaks Steppings:

300@0.925v

600@1.05v

900@1.2v

1100@1.25v

1200@1.325v

I have the brightness turned down really low and I've used the battery callibration app, a few times.

No problems with deep sleep- just looking to get more time from continual use.

Any ideas?
[Nook Color General] woot1524:
Do you run an auto-task killer app? Because if so you're trading very short term memory savings for a boat load of processor time. Ever since Froyo, and especially Gingerbread, Google made significant changes to the idle-memory allocation management and active-process management logic. All task-killers accomplish in 2.2+ is wasting processor time because 90% of the time android will immediately(depending on the app's historic use and prioritization) restart said app thinking there was some sort of critical failure. (you can check for your self, get the app "System info pro", and preform a kill. For the next 10-15 minutes you'll watch nearly all of the killed processes return to life, and re-assume their use of active/idle ram.

Example: You have 20% ram available, not idle mind you, and the app you've chosen to run needs 35%. First android will prioritize and organize all of the idle apps(which reside in idle ram, kind of like a really big stepping stone between oblivion and active status), and start purging from the bottom-up. Continuing till there's enough free'd memory to launch. Android also has the option of clearing/shrinking assets as a last resort before playing the guessing game as to which active apps aren't important. I don't exactly know what conditions need to be met in order for an app to achieve active(more-protected) status, rather than idle, but it's fairly good at figuring it out, or android wouldn't be so godly at multi-tasking.

A little long-winded comment, but I don't prefer giving advice and backing it up with because I said so logic.

TL;DR For 2.2+ don't use Auto-task killers, they gorge on your precious mA/hr's. Use something like "System info pro" or any comparable app to singly kill, or a pre-setup batch kill, apps as you experience issues.

Other than that, my only advice for battery life would be to not have apps you don't regularly use installed. If they're not installed they can't second-hand or tertiary-hand waste power.

In all reality, most if not all further battery/CPU efficiency increases will come from the hard work put in by Dalingrin/verygreen/murdok to increase hardware optimization for our version of android/kernel. (I know there's more key players, just can't think of them off hand)
[Nook Color General] breebauer:
Woot- I'm not using a task killer app, but thanks anyway for the info!

It sounds like people.are getting better results that I am with heavier use (videos, gaming, etc.) , so I'm trying to figure out where I'm going wrong.

Are there any settings that I can change that might help?

I'm more familiar with iPhone battery saving settings- where themes and push email eat lots of battery.

Is that the same case with android?

How much do widgets impact battery life? I don't think I have alot- but maybe there are some that eat more battery than others?
[Nook Color General] Tytanius:
I know your first post said while web browsing but when you aren't using data you can turn off wifi to save power. Like when playing a game or watching a video from emmc/sd.
[Nook Color General] breebauer:
Is there a way to find out which apps do this?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] ferfecir:
ROOT REQUIRED.

Ever wish you could have a full desktop experience on your phone or tablet? Now you can! This is a fully working Ubuntu 10.10 install!

Requires:

Root

1GHZ processor (recommended)

Android 2.0 or higher

Most stock ROMS will work (No guarantee for custom ROMS)

SD card with at least 4GB of free space

Data connection on your device

What is this?

This is a fully customized Ubuntu 10.10 image installer designed, themed and optimized for mobile devices. This will allow you to run a full Ubuntu system inside, or for a lack of better terms along side your existing Android install (!!!you can still make calls, text, use android without having to reboot your phone!!!).

Key features include:

Ability to install a full operating system on your phone

Unity 2d (lightweight gnome)

Working update manager

Working software center

Open Office

Firefox

Working BitTorrent app

756MB-1.3 GB free space in virtual drive after install

Ability to access files on your SD card from Ubuntu

Ability to have a full Ubuntu desktop side by side with Android

And more...

App provides a link to open the web based installer for this customized Ubuntu image for mobile devices and links to other free apps required for optimal perfomance.

dowload

https://market.android.com/details?id=appinventor.ai_linuxforandroid.Linuxforandroidver1&feature=search_result
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] styndall:
No free/lite/trial version available?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Stuart.upton666:
This looks awesome!! Will give it a go when I have time. Awesome find!!

Sent from my Nexus One running my own version of CM7, 1gb ext, OC'ed, UV'ed, FU'ed. nataS liaH
[Atrix 4G General] DarkRyoushii:
To all those wondering what Kholk has been up too lately, this is what I came back to find in the IRC chat after going AFK..
[Atrix 4G General] JayRolla:
He has also tweeted he is working on other phones still naming the project eternity. I really never seen anything from him but words, no results. Im not sad.
[Atrix 4G General] lyon21:
Great! Now we have lost a great dev because of a few assholes! Yes, we do still have great devs and with those devs, we will be ok. However, kholk has put a lot of work into the atrix and this is how we thank him? By running him away. He would have been a great contributor to the atrix! Just look at some other phones he has made ROMs and kernels for! He truly is a great dev and now he won't even be helping us! And I hope kholk sees this and comes back. These devs need to know that we appreciate then or they leave, like this! Everyone who appreciates the things he has done so far, comment here, show him we appreciate it and maybe, just maybe hell come back.
[Atrix 4G General] ClearFire:
SMH to all those who just have negative comments about everything... Did you pay a membership fee to join XDA?.... Didn't think so, therefore there should be less complaining and moaning and more "Keep your mouth shut". This is not directed at just those who bad mouth Kholk but at those who bad mouth everything that happens on this site.

If you want something done and it is not happening in a manner in which you would "LIKE" it done, then become a developer you lazy moochers. Other then that you should have complete patience as the developers here owe no one person anything. If you donated and you feel it was a waste, then why did you donate? better off with out the lot of you IMO who are always saying, "whats the status on the bootloader?", "When is CM7 being ported?", Why did I donate to see zero results?".. I don't know, why did you donate? hahah
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
Yes I have seen his other ROMS, but that does not help us here. I guess that tenfar, Sograth, eval_, unknown_, Edgan, The2dCour and many others have not done anything as amazing as kholk's work for the Atrix. O PLEASE COME BACK.
[Atrix 4G General] lyon21:
Stated like a pro! Your exactly correct! Kholk is only going to be the first to go if people don't straighten up! The atrix has taken a long time to be unlocked. A lot of devs are already working on phones that came unlocked that are already out! Don't push the great devs that we have now away! Also, I do believe this belongs in the dev section, the general section and every other atrix section! People need to express their gratitude and the devs need to see that they are greatly appreciated!
[Atrix 4G General] TheSmokingAndroid:
wow that really is too bad...

It's a shame a dev can be attacked like that by so many...its even more of a shame that a dev ( as hard as it can be ) can take all of those attacks to heart so much that they actually abandon their projects.

Sometimes dev forums can be like high school yes, however we are (mostly) adults here and insults and attacks should only be taken with a grain of salt... although some members can be huge troll's there does need to be some level of thick skinned'ness as an adult and some of us DO need to learn to let the majority of insults and attacks roll off of your back.

This is the real world folks and there are thousands of members in the Atrix community alone that don't understand how to code and program. As a result there will be harsh words spoken and as immature as they are you need to learn to let go.

There truly are more members here that aren't trolling and are extremely great-full for the work that devs put in since us (real) adults know that we would never be able to understand what and how you do things.

It's disappointing that he is no longer involved because of being perhaps a little sensitive to criticism and i hope kholk reads this so that he may come back with the understanding that there are just deuchbags in this world and there is nothing we can do about it and i think this goes for all dev's on any phone in any forum.

Kholk thank you for very much for your hard work that you put in. Know that it has not gone un-appreciated. There are just more people that appreciate it than don't.

On that note i end this rant in the hopes that more dev's don't jump ship due simply to the fact that there are people in this world that either simply don't have nice things to say, don't understand how difficult coding is and don't appreciate the hard work...

If you aren't good with criticism then perhaps you don't belong in a community where sharing your work is expected.

cheers
[Atrix 4G General] OSNPA:
Well, as far as I can tell, kholk talked a lot about what he was working on but I don't know what he has accomplished. I'm not saying he accomplished nothing, I just have no idea what he actually did. From the results produced by the other devs for this phone, I am happy with the results and can suffer a tantrum.
[Atrix 4G General] lyon21:
I never said that! I have told every one of them that I appreciate what they have done! Everything each of them has done is great! I am saying that we need every dev we can get! I am not saying that kholk is any better than any of those guys. I am saying that we could have benefited from his developments. I, for one, don't want to see any of our devs go. EVERY ONE of then are great to have and do amazing things with such a complex device!
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
My point being is this. Alot of our community has put Kholk on this high pedestal. He gave us tidbits of information on things he was working on, but no results. I know its free (blah blah blah), but when you offer anything up, you should except criticism.
[Atrix 4G General] bearsfan172:
Everyone please take note. The majority of the criticism directed towards kholk was not from the screaming masses and idiots on xda, but from very well respected people in this community. If you have been on IRC, you know who I am talking about. I don't know if that changes anything in your eyes, but this is not an example of trolls driving a dev out.

Kholks problem was that he simply promised too much and didn't deliver. He asked for money as though his projects were mostly or partially complete, but never actually published them. I don't doubt that he is intelligent, he simply overreached himself on the ATRIX, and the community after a very long time, did backlash against him.
[Atrix 4G General] pederb:
Very sad indeed :-(
[Atrix 4G General] mpalatsi:
Yeah, I have no idea who this guy is... nuff' said?

I've been happy with the devs producing results in this forum. I tip my hat to you.

EDIT: I just did a little research and found his contributions. He was providing valuable information and I retract my earlier statement. We all hope you return Kholk.
[Atrix 4G General] knigitz:
He folded based on the words of morons.
[Atrix 4G General] Sinful Animosity:
Well, that's a bit disheartening.

We'll miss you Kholk.
[Atrix 4G General] Swiftks:
One more reason for me to grab the Nexus "Prime" when it drops in the Fall. Don't get me wrong I love my Atrix (my first Android phone) & I like helping people on this forum and contributing where u can. But if the Nexus goes AT&T, then I go too... On topic now, I am sorry to see any dev leave b/c of petty remarks. Kholk, you will be missed.
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
You wanna know what kholk was doing for the atrix community, ill show you!

(if you install any of this and break your phone please dont go bothering the devs that are ACTUALLY WORKING hard to get stuff for your atrix)

kholks OC kernels, and kexec kernels based on the oldest 1.2.6 source available.

http://www.4shared.com/file/KgYP7x60/kholkskernels.html?

kholks UART work! clearly unfinish, as well as clearly unwilling to help another dev to finish it, with his amazing, IM NOT AT HOME! excuse, everyone is so use to listening

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1081743

kholks CM7 and Gentto webtop

oh yeah, he claimed to have it but never release it.

theres people daily, working there ass off, who never ask for donation, never claim nothing they coudnt do, all day everyday working their ass off, kholk is not needed! so stop whining kholk is gone, and wheep the money he stole from y'all. he may have done awesome on other phones, but here in the atrix comunity, he was a thief. :mad:

kholks < desingears, Edgan, eval-, The2dCour, Sogarth, fenrir, etc etc

BTW THIS POST CLEARLY BELONGS TO GENERAL!
[Atrix 4G General] bongd:
I don't like the ingrates and morons, but the internet is the thunderdome. If you can't take the heat then leave. He can be melodramatic all he wants.

It's a shame that he was a great dev though. Maybe he'll man up in the future but I'm not going to lick his balls because he's having a big fuss fuss. We can all remember this in the future too. Be respectful to the devs rather than chasing them away. I don't even post in this section anymore unless I have a burning question. Everyone goes completely off topic and flames each other constantly.
[Atrix 4G General] ceo.mtcl:
I'm sick of seeing threads like this in the developer section. By all means this is a general section thread.

Yes, sad to see him go.
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
Seriously, most of the attacks were fun **** talking between boredom on irc. Be a man kholk not a mouse. Never would of thought he was such a fragile little biznitch. Im besides myself. Kholk is a true hustler.
[Atrix 4G General] MXIIA:
He will be missed.
[Atrix 4G General] deduction:
I'm new to the Atrix (only picked one up after the bloader had already been unlocked) so I'm not exactly familiar with Kholk's work or promises for that matter. But, as someone who has spent a lifetime developing opensource software, this doesn't surprise me. Big figures in any opensource community take a lot of heat for their work but they also receive a LOT of congratulatory words and donations. It works both ways. Sounds like Kholk couldn't take the criticism which is unfortunate but by no means anyone's fault.

People throw internet temper tantrums all the time, especially F/OSS devs when they feel under-appreciated. We're all sort of prima donnas because, remember, we're not really getting paid, anyway. The clout and forum worship basically is the payment.

Don't shed tears for F/OSS devs who quit. They'll be back. This **** is like crack. And, if they never come back, people like me will fill their space. He was working on OC kernels? Cool, I've been working on OC kernels, too. Just an example.
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
I like how everyone says "he will be missed", the guy did not die. Everyone jump ship...its all over because kholk left. :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] muz_aj:
In every single phone forum, I always see great guys leaving because of bunch of AHs who doesn't have a clue of programming and what does it takes to make something out of nothing.

People who had the G1 knows how many times Cyanogen got attacked before too!

I just hope he changes his mind and come back soon ..
[Atrix 4G General] Paschalis:
May i m wrong, and my English are bad, but i ll tell my opinion for most of the devs!

kholk: The big mistake kholk done, was that he posted his unfinished work, at 95% or "closer than you imagine" as said, and in his signature, there was a huge donate button..

Everybody donated..

A huge HUGE amount went on him..

Also, some rumors of other members(not kholk), that he already finished CM7, and other stuff.

Anyway, quitting is a mistake. The correct, is to show us he is here!

Show that the donations deserved! Show some real work, cooperate with other devs(like edgan, he is asking him stuff in UART project..)

I m not happy he is leaving. I m not against him!

But he had to stay to defend himself with his (real)work!

if he does, everybody will welcome him back.. even the ones who dislike him! ;)

Its a challenge kholk!

Tenfar: Another dev, with big donations, who got free an Atrix! The reason of the donation, was to break the BP. He didnt make it, BUT tenfar, ported the old CWM, then lost for some time(maybe working on breaking the BP), but immidieadly, when BP unlocked, ported the new CWM, which updated again before two days, and planning a newer update..

The other devs, who got less donations(or dont even accept donations), and they deserve more are:

Sogarth, for his excellent work on webtop

navalynt, who came lately and merged all fixes for HKTW,

kennethpenn for his pseudoRom

Ririal, for his pseudoRom

edgan, eval and their team, for his silent work on 2nd init, and a big bravo, that he didnt published anything until he finished completely his hard work!

and lots of others with mods, hacks, etc etc
[Atrix 4G General] JayRolla:
I agree. Everyone act like devs are super heros. Its just a phone. Nothing against kholk. I never once talked down to him or seen these people that have.
[Atrix 4G General] mpalatsi:
I kind of agree with this guy. Once Kholk reads this thread I think he'll find that he's appreciated by many.

I know that this is an exaggeration but think of it like this. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are hated by many and also loved by many. It's just one of those things you have to deal with, man up Kholk!
[Atrix 4G General] holtenc:
LOL! He's not dead. It'd just a phone. There will be other devs that will do stuff
[Atrix 4G General] Sinful Animosity:
Ever hear the saying, the more the merrier?
[Atrix 4G General] logswithmoss:
This guy is really quitting because of cyber-bullying?

>.> what a baby. Honestly, as an atrix owner, I want ROMs as fast as possible, which means I also want as many developers as possible, but what a drama queen.

He's implying his incentive for working on this project is acceptance from the Atrix community..I doubt that very much so.
[Atrix 4G General] lesterp:
A dev needs a thick skin these days. This is not a tiny niche commtunity anymore and there are a lot of users coming here, many who are young (and old) and not well mannered yet. As a result devs can't take alot of what is written here personally. It is a sad reality of population explosion, and devs need to know as probably most already do that there is a majority (sometimes silent) that is very appreciative of their work.
[Atrix 4G General] logswithmoss:
Well put, +1
[Atrix 4G General] bearsfan172:
Someone quick! Back-up all the useful stuff for the atrix that he posted so we don't lose it! Oh... wait.

Look I'm usually the last person to troll about anything, but this is just a little ridiculous. According to kholk, he has a working unlock solution (not based on the existing solution) that he couldn't release earlier because motorola sued him to not publish it. Motorola has since dropped that lawsuit, so maybe he could release it for you international guys? HA yeah ok. Also he has a working OC kernel, CM7 running almost perfectly for the atrix, and Gentoo running on his atrix. Where are all of these goodies? Oh I'll post them later. Yeah ok...

I am usually the first person to stand up for a dev and defend them when people start hating on them and whatever else, but this is just too much. I supported kholk at the start, and thought he might produce something for us. But as time passed, most people realized that he was just a no-show, and would keep making promises and getting donations without ever providing us with everything useful.

Kholk, if you want people to be nice to you, produce results. If you don't want pressure to produce results, don't promise them, and DON'T accept or ask for donations. That's all there is to it. No one gets mad at the guy that says he might have a way to unlock the bootloader but never manages to quite do it. If you want people to like you and to regain respect. it's really quite easy. Simply show us some results, and produce something useful that works. That's all
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
Thank you bear, the best so far. I guess many still do not realize, that much of what happens with the Atrix community, does not happen on this forum. Yes, there was some "trolling" on the URT thread, but much of the criticism came within the IRC. Before you call everyone morons and such, remeber there is two sides of the story.
[Atrix 4G General] Anthonok:
this is very disappointing but I completely understand where he is coming from.

Sent via the power of a unicorn's horn.
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
Kholik got trolled... end of story.
[Atrix 4G General] Pat123:
Kholks latest tweet says:

"Goodbye LG Star. EternityProject Kernel for SGS2 & EternityProject Kernel for Motorola Olympus are coming...!"

Isn't Olympus = Atrix?
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
Yes it is.