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[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
Well i kinda half ass figured a work around using Titanium Backup to move apps to sd and it seems to work but i still dont see why it wont do it from manage applications
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
Craziest thing jus happened! Used Titanium to move an app to sd.. went to manage apps and it wont move back to internal.. says not enough storage but Titanium moves it right back.. surely thats not a sdcard problem.. but iven changed 3 diffrerent roms and problem persists.. Idk i give up lol
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Yes ;)

So you are using ext3, is that correct?

I don't have any idea to be honest.

Does "LD ROM (HD port 3.3.3. R5 to be precise)" have any other partitioning configuration than LD 2.5.0?

Did you try fix permissions?

You could also try upgrade to 2.1.3 rc2 and see if it changes anything when you restore that backup again!

BTW: Could it be possible that there wasn't enough space on your sdcard when you created the backup?

CWMR and 4ext in previous versions didn't stop backing up even if there was too little space, resulting in too small images (but with correct md5sums of course).

In the latest versions I added something to prevent that..

Extremely strange! I have no idea other than bad sdcard/bad formatting/bad partitioning..

Did you already ask in the thread of the roms you tried?

I can't imagine this has anything to do with recovery and I'm really clueless! never heard of such a strange problem before :D
[Desire Android Development] live_0978:
Hey, get this..I installed VU beta for Bravo and after first reboot it hung on splash screen so I full wiped then restored my LeeDrOid 3.3.3 r5 port nandroid, rebooted then ran move dalvik 2sd.zip and it hung again. Full wiped again, restored IC 1.1.0 stable, rebooted then flashed IC 1.1.1 stable update and guess what? It hung at splash screen! So is it a 2.13 recovery problem or something else?
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Try with the stable then we will know and have our first identified bug report ;)

edit: Do you think dalvic2sd causes the hangs?
[Desire Android Development] live_0978:
Not sure..when running MoveDalvik2SD.sh using mcr script app it seems to work, TB tells me I have 189mb internal whereas before running the script I had 30mb free internal. It runs the script, I reboot and all's well. The hangs only occur after running Lee's flashable movedalvik with his Rom, 2nd boot of VU ROM or 1.1.1 update of baad's Rom after first doing cache and dalvik wipes..on each occasion the htc desire bravo hangs for longer than 30mins before I give up, in fact I left one ROM (not sure which) on splash for an hour. Could be a script issue that's breaking recovery but I'll test tomorrow now, battery running low and I'm in bed now.
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
Yea im pretty sure its not recovery cuz its only been doing this a lil over a week and ive been using 4ext awhile now and never had a problem with it.. Im gonna try Mini Tool Partition Wizard this weekend and see if that helps.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Ok!

Good night then. Waiting for your report..

I have not had a bugreport with 2.1.3 rc2 until yet, but it hasn't been downloaded for the bravo so often either. Only 247 downloads which is extremely little compared to the previous versions where it have been thousands.

Might be because there hasn't changed much with 2.1.3.

So might be possible that there is something.. but would make me wonder since like I said, not much has changed.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Can you try that with a different sdcard?

Also did you try removing all partitions and re partitioning the whole sdcard with 4ext (option: start from scratch)?
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
Only 1 way to find out and flash a older recovery and see if thats it but im with Max.. i dont think its recovery.. but im willing to test the theory if i could find a older version.
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
No.. i only have the one Sdcard that came with my fone. Yea tried it with keeping fat32 and starting from scratch.. tried about 5 different configurations..even used Sdformatter to format card and still problem persists.. but im fine as long as Titanium Backup can move them to sdcard
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Thanks ;)

It's not impossible of course that there is a problem with 2.1.3 rc2, so it would be interesting if someone else would have the same problem doing that and if that same problem would also happen with another version like 2.1.0 final or even one of official cwmr..
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Hmm.. but if you want to have more free space for your apps, why don't you use a rom with a script that uses sd-ext?

Did you try the one from Droidzone?
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
You know i tried that earlier toaday with a MIUI rom with cmtd and 1st boot there was over 300 mb free and said Yeaaaa... but wouldnt you know it.. couldnt get wifi hotspot to work. lol and and i need it being here in NC. Wifi tether wouldnt work either
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Hehe, and what about another rom with sd-ext? Afterall there are a few different scripts out there for that. I remember Droidzone recommending one which in his opinion doesn't have any issues and he is using/recommending for his rom.
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
It would have to be a CDMA desire rom though.. remember i own the basterd version of the desire.. hahahaha
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
I really don't understand why there is so little support for the cdma version!

Was the Desire CDMA so unpopular?
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
I guess most fone companys use Sim card and i jus happen to get mine at the one that doesnt.. idk but next time i buy a fone ill make damn sure its GSM that for sure.. lol
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
:D

Would you care testing an app for me?
[Desire Android Development] TheUntouchable:
Does this mean i can just flash the current version on my sensation or do i have to wait for a sensation version :D Cant wait :p
[Desire Android Development] dirkw01:
Nevermind. :D

I'm now on LD 3.3.3 R5 and I'm fine with it. :cool:

Cheers

Dirk
[Desire Android Development] ptr_hamilton:
Nice one :D:D:D:D
[Desire Android Development] beanbean50:
I've decided it's about time I upgraded myself, been using v2.1.0 RC1 for ages and just tried to update to v2.1.3 RC2....

I downloaded it to my sdcard and renamed it PB99IMG

rebooted into bootloader

rebooted

rebooted into recovery to look

but nothing has changed....

where am I going wrong...?
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Hehe don't :D

Please wait a little.. will come :)

Did the bootloader flash it actually?

BTW: pm sent ;)
[Desire Android Development] beanbean50:
I don't think the bootloader did anything (I thought it did it automatically)....

in answer to your pm question...yeah bring it on...hehe :)
[Desire Android Development] live_0978:
Flashed 2.10, did wipes and restored backup IC 1.1.0 and then update to IC v 1.1.1 and didn't have the problems that existed with 2.13 rc2. I miss the sfx of professional themes tho using 2.10.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Strange.. could you try it once again with rc2? Might also be that things changed after flashing and changing..

Would be great if you could test it once more with rc2

It puzzles me because the code for flashing or backup/restore has been completely untouched between the final and 2.1.3 rc2. But nothing is impossible of course. Also there was noone with a DHD, IS or DS who reported such an issue and there have been 10 times as much downloads for those devices..
[Desire Android Development] PlayPetepp:
One question, booting in 2.1.3 rc2 takes 2 minutes more then in cwm 2.1.5.8. Is that normal? Flashed through hboot bootloader using PB*.zip few days ago.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Yes, I know this is very bad and happens on the Desire for many people.

I still didn't have the time to change things that will improve startup time.

It depends on your configuration how long will it take.. but it's not yet clear.

You could try the final version if this one boots up faster, but I doubt it.

Other than that, please wait an additional week or so, then I will make a bigger update that should remove that issue too.
[Desire Android Development] PlayPetepp:
It's no biggie, I just wondered if it's as it's supposed to be, that's all. Thanks for a quick response. I'll stick to this one 'till a new one comes out. I'm not in that much of a hurry anyway. ;)
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Try pressing the menu or power button, do you see some Info and other writings appear? if so, im having the same issue as well, i reverted to 2.1.0 final and its all good atm...
[Desire Android Development] PlayPetepp:
Thanks, haven't tried that. Will try it some time during the day today and submit my report here. It's probably the same thing.

==edit==

Confirmed. Pressing menu or power gets the same response. It displays "4EXT is based on CWM by Koush ..." and it ends with "... To change fs, visit 4EXT menu". Pressing menu/power again and screen goes back to full black.
[Desire Android Development] live_0978:
Sorry but it's definitely a 2.1.3_r2 issue. Flashed LeeDrOid 3.3.3_r5 port again rebooted then flashed his dalvik2sd script and it hung on splash. Pulled the battery, rebooted recovery wiped all then flashed IC_GS_CM7_1.1.0_stable and booted up, after first boot rebooted and flashed 1.1.1 update after cache and dalvik wipes and it hung again. I'm sorry Max, I really thought you'd know what's going wrong. Now then, a big difference between recoveries is that the fancy progress bars and page icon in apaquette's pro themes don't show up in 2.1.0 whereas they do in 2.1.3_rc2.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Thanks for the cynicism. How should I know what's going on on your device without any logs and other users confirming problems like that?

I need more information so I'd be able to combine the info of at least a few different reports in order to find anything they all have in common to even know where to start looking.

Matters like that are more complex than you might think.

It depends on many variables, like partition layout and file systems.

If rc2 had problems flashing most roms or even one of them (reproducible), it would be simple.

But so far yours is the only report I ever got for rc2.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
2.1.0 final actually boots faster, the amount of time it takes for the latest version to boot varies, couldnt really measure it which was rather odd...
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Can you guess how big the difference is?

BTW: RC2 is printing the info slower.. but you *should* already be able to navigate the menu while it is printing..

I hope to get my ordered Desire that week then I can test all of that myself finally and don't need to bother the Desire people that often :)
[Desire Android Development] bmonster:
I've upgrade from IC110 to IC 111, using 2.1.3rc2 no problems.

Quickly installed leedroid 3.3.3, and it booted no problem.

Restored my IC111 no problem as well.

Definitely not a 2.1.3 r2 issue.

Using 1gig ext 4 and stock Hboot.
[Desire Android Development] live_0978:
I think I know what the problem has been, it's only an hypothesis mind you and not an attempt of cynicism :) The main crux of the matter seems to be with Dalvik cache being on SD-Ext, so when wiping cache and dalvik cache then restoring a backup it gets broken somehow, perhaps someone who really knows what goes on can explain it better because I don't really understand all this stuff. It does appear that 2.1.0 handled it better than 2.1.3 though but I much prefer 2.1.3 for lots of reasons tho so thx Max for your good work! ;)
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Thanks very much :)

Thank you :)

Okay now we have a suspect.

Could anyone else please (if time permits :D ) try that out?

dalvik on sd-ext, wipe everything and restoring a previously made backup with that configuration?

Edit: btw: the content of dalvik cache is not needed at all because it will be recreated.. you could try that again and format cache/dalvik after restoring that backup..
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
As i said, it varies, i tried bootin to recovery few times, sometimes it took longer sometimes it went quicker, what happens is that while the recovery prints the info you can only use power and menu buttons to shutdown the screen, the menu itself wont appear until the recoverys finished printin the info...
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Thanks, it's not supposed to be like that.. on my device i can use the menu and all while this is printed..

Need to change all that..

I'll change the whole boot process with detecting file systems and sd-ext partitions anyway completely..
[Desire Android Development] :
Maybe I am totally stupid but i flash the newest version of 4ext and tried booting the recovery. Splash image shows then screen turns black. When I hit the power or menu button a Welcome Text shows... But how do I actually enter the recovery? Nothing works :\

Even booting the recovery via fastboot doesnt work. I also tried the 2.1.0 final. Same result :(
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Thats what we were talking about a few posts above, although reverting to 2.1.0 fixed the issue for me, odd the experiences vary from handset to handset :\
[Desire Android Development] ati88:
Stucked at flashing anything

Hi all,

I'm trying to flash this recovery to my HTC Desire but still stucked..

In the first post it says that there are two ways of doing it:

1. Flash via fastboot or Android Flasher

If I go into the bootloader then choose fastboot I will have only: "Bootloader", "Restart", "Restart Bootloader" options.

Android Flasher fails to update the recovery image. The phone must be s-off but I can't s-off it as well...

2. flash through HBOOT, rename the file to PB99IMG.zip

At the first tries it recognized that zip file but nothing happened. But now for some reason it can't even see the zip file in the root of my sdcard.

Any suggestions? It would be really appreciated!

My Desire is rooted. I'd like to flash the latest InsertCoin CM7. The sdcard is now fat32 formatted. I have clockworkmod recovery now in the device.

RUU flash fails too.

Thanks!
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
You need to S-OFF for any of those install methods. You're going to want to go S-OFF anyway if you want to run IC CM7 as otherwise you won't have the correct HBOOT installed.

M.
[Desire Android Development] ptr_hamilton:
You have to be s-off to flash cm7 version of insertcoin

are you sure you installed htc sync and removed all but the drivers? hboot installation of recovery also needs s-off

edit: 2 seconds late
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
It just needs more time to boot.

This is known for the Desire and will be improved!

It can be quite long if you are unlucky.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
You can only use the fake flash version (update.zip) if you are S-ON!
[Desire Android Development] ati88:
Thanks guys! Then I'll keep trying to do s-off...

There are two methods that I know: AlphaRev and Revolutionary.

AlphaRev stops in the last step and telling me some weird error messages like "unary operator expected". I've got GoldCard.

Revolutionary starts but nothing happens even after 10 minutes..
[Desire Android Development] cwill0303:
Hello, Trying to use the CDMA version on my Desire. MD5SUM matches. Copied to sd card, boot to recovery, install zip file from sd and it says installation aborted. I have S-Off, and am currently using CWM recovery. Is there something I am doing wrong? Has anyone else had success with the CDMA version? Any more info I can give to get this to work? I am really excited to change the filesystems! Thanks in advance!!!
[Desire Android Development] :
Thats what worked for me:

I reflashed CWM, did a nandroid restore, booted completely into the system and then flashed 4ext again. Now it works ;)

Thanks for this recovery.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Sory, that's not possible right now..

For the Bravoc you need to flash it via fastboot..

Unless... you wanna beta test something :D

Send me a pm if you want to..

Hehe great you got it working.. sounds like a bad first flash though..
[Desire Android Development] cwill0303:
Im on call for work, so I cant use my phone for beta testing this week :) I will next week if you need me to! I will try it through fastboot, I am not very familiar with that process at the moment.,

Just used fastboot and it loaded but I dont get any menus or options in recovery. Only the info screen. On to more reading! Im sure its a user error!
[Desire Android Development] :
I guess, for the record, it was all my fault. I wanted to flash new hboot, recovery and rom at once... So first the hboot, then your recovery, and after all I wanted to fully wipe and flash Redux :) Guess there must have gone something wrong.
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
Yea i have 4ext on my cdma.. have you tried android flasher? I have a andriod-info txt you can zip up along with recovery and and name it PB99IMG... jus like that.. dont type zip after that. Put on root of your sdcard and flash through Hboot

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[Desire Android Development] itayzo27:
hello everyone

Can someone help me with this error? While flashing the last version (2.1.3RC2) of the recovery through fastboot command I get this error:

sending 'recovery' (4208 KB)... OKAY [0.625s]

writing 'recovery'... FAILED (remote: image error! (BootMagic check fail))

what the hell?

im S-OFF, using AlphaRev cm7 r2 hboot, i checked with Fastsum and its fine.

can someone help me plz...
[Desire Android Development] ptr_hamilton:
Have you also tried the hboot method yet?
[Desire Android Development] Terepin:
I tried it and it's utterly slow. It tend to take several seconds to do/switch.
[Desire Android Development] AndyBury:
Hi all,

Is there any way that changing the hboot could be written into this great program, i mean like a menu item?

Thanks for your great work Max.
[Desire Android Development] itayzo27:
yes i tried it and its working... but i have another problem...

i cant see the FS of the "System" partition... (like the Attach recovery ScreenShot at the first post).

i can see only the Sdcard partition

Sdcard - Fat32

Sd-ext - Ext4

how can i change the Fs of the 'System' Partition?
[Desire Android Development] cwill0303:
Working like a charm on bravoc Desire, Thank you!
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
I think it already is.. is it not Max?
[Desire Android Development] Meaple:
This is a nice recovery. Couple of downsides. 1) It takes a while to load the image. 2) Recovery refuses to load. When I press power or menu, I get a little info but that's it. Nothing loads at all. Had to revert to RMD for now.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Something went wrong, retry, redownload/unzip.. this works!

Please use the final version which boots up faster according to what ppl say.

Thanks, what exactly do you mean?

I don't display it, because it will always be yaffs.. it makes no sense. It's neither ext3 nor ext4!

Please use the final version which boots up faster according to what ppl said.

To anyone who would like to test the alpha version of an online updater for 4ext,

here it is (only for S-OFF and USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!)

Updater
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Hey Johnny ;)

The Updater works now ;)

Also on the bravoc, tested with BeanBean50, ptr_hamilton and cwill0303 (desire cdma)

http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
[Desire Android Development] Meaple:
I did and I waited about 3 mins at least for it to load up.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Strange.. and interesting that detecting your sdcard and sd-ext partitions is taking so long..

However.. even if it were 30 seconds, it is too much! As already said weeks ago I will improve that when the next version is ready. Didn't have time yet to release an update.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
BTW: If you have time for that: could you check your sd-ext partitions for filesystem errors?

That the recovery never loads up is something that noone ever had who didn't have a (confirmed) broken sdcard or had a bad flash. And even then, I can't remember when I heard about that the last time.. maybe there were max. 2 such cases in 2 months.

You can also try the app I posted above to flash it.
[Desire Android Development] Meaple:
Yeh sure. I will sort it out later.

*EDIT*

I deleted the 4ext folder that got created on my sd card and booted into recovery. Load time was normal. Weird.

Punched in..
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
Woo Hoooo!! Recovery Updater works! :)
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
hahaha the best thing that could have ever happend on earth :D
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
hahahaha right right right.. i hear ya! :)
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Great it's working for you now :)

:D
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
The arrow in the circle point to exactly where i am and how far away from the coast i am.. so yea.. hopefully the hurricane turns right and heads more out to sea

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[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Absolutely let's hope that.. the world seems so small could really imagine being there just looking at your pic :)

But if that thing comes straight to you, you would need to leave very soon, what do you think?

I mean if you would wait too long and too many ppl at once are leaving? Don't want to imagine..

The best of all luck!!! And all fingers crossed that it won't happen :)

This place seems far too beautiful for that.
[Desire Android Development] John_Blaze:
I know right? Ok going to sleep now.. big day tomorrow. ttyl
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Good night :) me too!
[Desire Android Development] AndyBury:
Hi Max,

Is there anyway to add the hboot information into the backup.

So on restoring a backup it would automatically change to the hboot used when making the backup.

I.e. When I try to change rom, on the train to work (or just away from a computer) , and get a corrupted hboot.zip (which has happened at least twice).

I can change to another hboot and restore a backed up.

I don't think that's as clear i thought it. Lol.
[Desire Android Development] madmaxx82:
Yes but far too dangerous in my opinion.

This could easily brick phones from inexperienced users or if you don't watch out.

The idea of having an hboot.img on the sdcard all the time with often corrupted fat32 filesystem and flashing that on a later date makes me extremely nervous..

"Your recovery has killed my phone"..

Dangerous things like that should be done by watching out carefully about md5sums and sending the file directly from your computer via fastboot..

Don't you agree?
[Desire Android Development] AndyBury:
Yes, I understand what your saying. And agree. I'll just live with my phone being down for a day here and there.
[Desire Android Development] bmonster:
Agreed, this would be very dangerous, but having the Hboot info print with the file system info would be handy,

The amount of roms I've flashed without checking I have the correct hboot is unbelievable, maybe I should just stick to one hboot. :)
[Desire Android Development] ptr_hamilton:
Absolutely AWESOME!!!

Max u did it

This aplha version works great on my Desire. It recognizes if a new version of your recovery is available. And even more important it installs the recovery right out of the app! No more fastflash, hboot or whatever needed. Mate you are reinventing the way recovery. It started when you gave us the great customized version of cwm. Continued by this amazing app.. what comes next ;)

Once I am in the app it even marks the current installed version yellow, great.

Just one thing so far. If you choose known issues the button should change so you can get back to changelog

My device HTC Desire Gsm Amoled

Thank you sooo much!