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[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
sense it only a small part of the problem...

2.3.3 isnt really optomized for our hardware, not to mention that almost ALL benchmark software doesnt fully support our SoC chipset

when we get S-OFF and clean/scrubbed roms, we will be pulling real capabilities from benchmark software, especially with 2.3.4 and 2.4 when available :)
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
i hope that so....

How about overheatings, and extremly battery drainages? this will be improved to?

I think, adreno220 is more powerfull and newer than Mali400M, and QSD8260 par with Exynos.

So i think, when this phone becomes S-OFF and gets better roms, will beat, or close to the SGSII.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
this is quite true, but the QSD8260 has a couple more features than the exynos, not to mention single core voltage optimization, where as the SGS2 runs both cores at single voltage...

as for the overheating, at first it will irk you, but it never gets too hot, and considering the hardware in this thing, and its thickness, its to be expected

and as for the battery drain, you can thank the carriers for that bull****, after running temp root and disabling a whole whack of useless apps, i have around 250mb ram constantly, and i got roughly 6-8 extra hrs of battery life
[HTC Sensation] |ErosizeD|:
That is true, the QSD8260 have that feature ( and other new features ), it's good! but Galaxy SII doesnt overheat like sensation.

Maybe my rom from vodafone is fulll of **** ( Sense 3.0 isn't fluid on mine... and is **** compared to another alternative launcher for now... )

About temporal root, is a ****!! we need a full root.

I'm working on HTCCamera.apk ( in part thanks to potato, helped me with indications )

TO get better and decent image/video quality, when the phone becomes full rooted, surely i will release it, and i hope will work very well, but i can't test it because i don't have root.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
i agree full root is NECESSARY for anything to be done on this fone, fre3vo reminds me the the HEN hacks for psp back in the day :P

as for teh htccamer.apk, good on ya! there are some issues with it, my biggest being focus on really close ups
[HTC Sensation] mpjohns3:
Temp root is just a step on the way to full root, it's not like the devs got it temp rooted and said "well ****, I'm glad we got that done, let's move on to the next phone!" I'm sure they put in a lot of hours just to get this far already and are putting in a lot more to get full root, so saying that temp root is **** is pretty ****ed up and disrespectful to all the devs that are working hard to give YOU and all the other ungrateful bastards full root.

Sorry for going off a little there, just frustrating to see people act like nothing is being done and belittling big accomplishments on the path to the final goal.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
i agree, its more of a PoC/dev tool than something for average users to use, epecially for setting up androidSDK :P

superoneclick is nice, but you dont learn anything about how/why its working, and if you dont want to know that stuff, why would you need root in the first place?
[HTC Sensation] nugzo:
6-8 hours battery? wow. I go from 7 am till 7 pm and have 30ish% left almost every day. I came from an EVO 4g which required battery changes twice a day sometimes. i had batteries charging everywhere. I expected the same or worse from the sensation but am proud to be wrong. I have 4 extra batteries for this and an extra charger at home and work, only needed to swap a couple of times in over a month. I wasted money on sensation batteries.. Strange how some have so many battery troubles with this phone and i have had great results with 2 sensations. 250% better than my EVO 4g. After root and custom kernels and roms i may get 2 days use out of this bad boy.. Just hope they can get the other issues straightened out (touch screen issues, which is actually working great right now) so i can really enjoy this thing!
[HTC Sensation] Androidfreakz:
Benchmarks are over rated and not on mobile phone and very inconsistent,my evo 3d and sentation scores the same on quadrant my highest score on shi**y qaudrant is 2450. If I totally relied on benches is wait and get a SG2, but I don't. Like others have said sense 3.0 weights heavily on CPU. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Touchwiz is a very light ui compared to sense. I'm happy with it in real world use.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
@nugzo

i get 6-8hrs more on top of my regular 8-10 hrs, but mind you i use A LOT of data on my phone, and always listening to music...

so realistically, i could get much more out of it, but considering i had the same issue with my HD2 that you had with your EVO, its a world of difference :P

EDIT: also, nugzo, apparently the latest OTA fixes the touchscreen and GPS problems, if they do happen to you...
[HTC Sensation] razvan.tudose:
Sensation - 'poor' performance

The MAIN reason why the HTC Sensation has lower benchmark scores than other phones in this class is that it has to push 33% more pixels ! It`s screen has a 960x540 resolution; the GS2 for example only pushes 800x480 pixels !
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
@razvan

another excellent point, i keep forgetting that, qHD is now "normal" for me that it slips my mind :P
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
they are low cuz its slow...

the funny thing is I kept reading that the quadrant and benchmark apps were not optimized for the sensation. How you have to factor in pixel compression and other things to explain the low scores. After having the phone for almost two weeks, and playing with the Evo 3D - the phone is average to slow (for my expectation) for a dual core device. The scores are consistently low for a reason.

The benchmark apps might not be "optimized" but gx2, gs2 and evo 3d users testify to the speed of their devices. I have seen it up close too. Lag AND my phone crashed last night, unexpectedly, and the tell htc prompt came up. what the hell??

I am keeping the phone, but I am not an apologist. The sensation is lacking (to me) and I should not have to wait for root for me to feel like my phone competes with other phones in its class - speed wise.
[HTC Sensation] brusko1972:
I see that you are with wind. I am planning to switch to wind when my contract expires i august. just want to know how the signal is with wind mobile compared to rogers?
[HTC Sensation] bonebeatz1234:
Sensation only uses one core for the current benchmarks while the other run apps in the background. Use cf-bench for real duel core benchmark.
[HTC Sensation] MrPhilo:
I have both the SGS2 and HTC Sensation.

One thing I know is that the CPU on the SGS2 is alot better than the QSD8260. The reason is due to different architecture Cortex A8 vs Cortex A9. Also my evidence is from Smartbenchmark2011. SGS2 scores around 3.8k and the Sensation around 2.5k which isn't bad and the screen QHD doesn't lower the benchmark for CPU.

I don't how you guys got Adreno 220 to better than Mali 400MP O.o?

SGX543MP4 > SGX543MP2 & Mali 400MP > Tegra & Adreno 220 & SGX540 (Although Tegra maybe abit better than both)

The reason why Adreno 220 is on per with Tegra is quadrant 2D and 3D benchmarks. The framerate on the Atrix 4G and the Sensation is about equal and they both use qHD. Which in theory means that the LG Optimus 2X framerate can be said as equal to an Adreno 220 at 800x480 resolution.

Although on Smartbenchmark2011 the Atrix scores alot higher GPU than the Adreno 220.

All these are based on my phone benchmark scores as well as other people posted on youtube to backup.
[HTC Sensation] GorillaPimp:
so nobody with a s-off sensation has loaded a rom on it yet and run a benchmark?
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
This is a common misconception. The MSM8x60 doesn't have either the Cortex A8 or Cortex A9 architecture, it has both. Qualcomm has their own custom architecture (Scorpion) that they use in their Snapdragon chips.
[HTC Sensation] zim2dive:
I stopped paying attention to "benchmarks" when folks were just enabling JIT (CM4??).. they got fantastically better "benchmark" #'s and no appreciable change in their daily responsiveness.

As the saying goes

what I know is that I've yet to see anything "slow" about the phone.. its the 1st smartphone I have ever owned (starting 4.5 years ago back at some WM5? piece o junk... ) which wasn't painfully inadequate from the moment I bought it (but was as good as one could get at the time)

I dunno.. something else might be faster.. or not.. I know I don't care.. these things have finally gotten fast enough :)
[HTC Sensation] esincho:
benchmarks are bull. Ppl stop putting too much into the scores
[HTC Sensation] a4ol:
Until we get SOFF and flash a clean 2.3.4 ROM, there is no way to tell what the phones true power is.
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
Comparing my Sensation to my SGS2 (stock, not rooted):

CF Bench:

Sensation: Overall score=5115, Java Score=2566, Native Score: 8939

SGS2: Overall Score=6366, Java Score=3154, Native Score: 11184

Smartbench 2011:

Sensation: 2681/1676

SGS2: 3919/2218

Nenamark2:

Sensation:25.6 FPS

SGS2: 36.6 FPS
[HTC Sensation] Kot Vaska:
Adreno 220 is twice more powerful than Tegra 2 and is currently the most powerful GPU on the market. Scores 63 in "total graphics score" in benchmark 1.03, while SGS2 scores only 28. I don't know how you can even compare them. The gap is too wide.

SGS2 maybe more powerful in CPU, but its GPU is simply last year hardware as compared to Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
http://www1.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608p5.php

Read page 5

What's benchark 1.03, I'd like to see the comparison made between the sgs2 and sensation. Tell where I can find it and I'll test it now.
[HTC Sensation] iunlock:
Even with better roms and S-off it will be no where near the SGSII....

A 3.5L American piece of crap V6 is not the same as a German built 3.5L V6.

Snap dragon is a piece of dirt.
[HTC Sensation] Utking:
Haha, with better roms and S-off it will be miles better! As told earlier, it features independent core voltage control, not to mention this processor is underclocked to save battery, with some dev loving we can get this to run at 1,5 ghz and still have better battery than we have today :)

Not to mention the build quality ;)

My 2 cents.
[HTC Sensation] mpjohns3:
I'm sorry but that was probably one of the dumbest analogies I have ever heard
[HTC Sensation] Mainspring:
American V8 says hi.

and this is coming from a Mercedes owner. :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] MrPhilo:
I doubt its twice more powerful while Tegra 2 gets nearly 3000 score on Smartbenchmark 2011 and Adreno averaging around 1500. I see the opposite instead.

And can I ask what benchmark did you use? You should know SGS2 is capped at 60fps. Also last year hardware lol... even in 8or9/10 of GPU benchmark Tegra+Mali outperforms the Adreno 220.

Im not being a hater. I have both the SGS2 and Sensation and I like both of em, im just speaking the truth.

Yeah got the QSD and MSM wrong! My bad :P.

It's similar to the Cortex A8 process or architecture instead of the Cortex A9. This is said by many other people on other forums+site. The CPU is just nearly identical to an Cortex A8 but just two of the CPU. Maybe a little changes or some.
[HTC Sensation] heygrl:
Ford makes a damn good V6, but so does VW/Audi and I've owned both..

Anyway, performance is good enough for me to ignore Quadrant/Smartbench etc. scores as i have in the past.

Does it flawlessly play 1080P Flash content? Check

Does it flawlessly run Firefox - a VERY demanding browser? Check

Do I have to wait to do anything? Nope.. I did replace the disgusting Sense 3.0 Launcher with ADW EX to fix the Sense 3.0 launcher constantly getting pushed out of the memory.
[HTC Sensation] shar1r:
Completely agree. Bought it day one too - and am totally beginning to regret it. Speed + plus the actual RAM being only 558 + locked bootloader is really beginning to irritate the hell out of me.
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
its actually really good, ill provide db infor when i get outside, no reception in the basement of an airport :P

also, generally, wind doesnt like basements, at home, i get 0 cell, but sometimes 3G...

EDIT: rogers clearly has better coverage, due to their crazy ass monopoly of bands/towers, but wind is getting up there :)

just check winds website to make sure that places you frequently travel arent wind AWAY zones.

also, wind data plans are amazing, i have a limited offer for unlimited data for $35/month with a special 50% off for 6 months (3 months left) :)
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
bite your tongue, sir. you've clearly never owned an HD2...

sammy fanboys need not apply to a S4G thread, even if you do own one!
[HTC Sensation] Bxsteez:
Has anyone checked out Linpack's new multithread feature? Might be optimized for dual core processors and give a better picture of the snapdragon's power.......
[HTC Sensation] elektrownik:
We need to wait for full root, then we can change cpu speed from 1,2 to 1,5 GHz, this cpu is 1,5 but htc downclocked it to 1,2 to save battery...
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
Exactly.
[HTC Sensation] Trekest:
Sorry, that's just an excuse. Yes, you can compare it to the Atrix which runs at the same resolution and see that the Sensation is just a bit faster.

The difference is, however, that the Atrix actually has applications that can take advantage of that (being powered by Tegra2) and a more common platform.

This doesn't change the fact that the UI is laggy as hell, and no developer - not even HTC themselves - can seem to take advantage of it. Not right now anyway, this might change. Some day. I can brag and brag about pure underlying processing power until the cows come home, but it doesn't matter. I can't know for sure.

Heck, did you know my N96 was dual core as well? Didn't stop it from being a lousy piece of hardware (with a nice camera) since Symbian doesn't support multi cores. Until today. Its twin with a slightly faster single core CPU - the N85 - ran circles around it. I'm not saying that's the case with my Sensation, just pointing out a fact.

In this bit the Sensation got the downsides from both ends - it's the first non-Tegra qHD device, and as such lots of current heavy applications from the Market doesn't support it yet. I look at my friend with envy while he plays Kona's Crate on his SGS2.

And is it powerful enough to run Tegra apps? Well, yes. Maybe. Got r00t? Nope. Shame. The SGS2 is strong enough to run Tegra apps by the way. Oh, hold on - is it rooted? Yes! WOW these games look amazing running on that thing!

Don't get me wrong - I don't regret buying it for a second. I know there's potential with it, that's why I bought it. But with it comes to mind the fact that Samsung just one-upped HTC in almost every single performance bit, if not all of them. Then I think of that device's potential. Still, it's made of plastic and overheats even more then my Sensation when playing Cut the Rope. Enough for me to stay under the HTC flag.

Glad I finally took that off my chest. Let the flaming begin. Bring it on.
[HTC Sensation] lokhor:
I came from an SGS to the Sensation and am currently using both.

I really like the feel of the Sensation and the qHD screen is very nice. I am disappointed at how Sense UI doesn't feel smooth or hardware accelerated. Scrolling in lists is often jerky and a lot of games are incompatible. I'm hoping that when HTC unlocks the bootloader there will be great custom roms with kernels that allow OC/UV to 1.5ghz+ and we can enjoy all the speed while retaining similar battery life. As it currently stands however the Sensation is a bit of a letdown in the performance department.
[HTC Sensation] Mafiatounes:
I currently own both Sgs 2 & Sensation without benchmarking my feeling is that the Sgs 2 is much faster in real life, much smoother, more video codec support and screen is better even if its wvga although the Sensation feels better in the hand and i like the design, one other thing i like is the look of sense 3.0 but i dont like the lag it has.. hopefully its only software rated but i doubt it.
[HTC Sensation] zim2dive:
If you watch the videos on http://pocketnow.com/android/qualcomm-demos-msm8660-15ghz-dual-core-performance you can get a sense of how much difference optimized code/drivers can make. One would imagine Sense 3.0 is new and thus has plenty of room for optimization in the future. (personally I don't think its slow)
[HTC Sensation] MrPhilo:
We're in the same boat here, I love the HTC Sensation feel and look. However im still looking forward for custom ROMs for the Sensation (Long term ROMs). Tbh im picky when it comes to performance, hopefully the browser will be alot smoother or Gingerbread 2.4 comes out in time and gives us the hardware acceleration we needed long time ago. Then i'll just giveup my SGS2 for it :). Although I probally buy the first Tegra 3 phone anyways and forget both phone xD!
[HTC Sensation] Bxsteez:
The sad thing is that my OC Thunderbolt ran Sense 3.0 better than the 1.2GHz HTC Sensation..... So i think that once we can OC this thing we will see much better performance.
[HTC Sensation] jlevy73:
True, but that video is about the Qualcomm development phone which didn't take any real world issues into account like battery life, cpu/gpu clock down and wake up. If it's true that Sense 3.0 wasn't released with optimized drivers and software code that's just pretty sad. Touchwiz 4 is also new but prior to release, Samsung optimized the crap out of it and added hardware acceleration to ever aspect of the device. The device feels very polished and there is no doubt when using it, it's top notch both hardware and software wise. I have both devices, and to be honest the Sensation feels like a single core device next to the SGS2. I'm going to keep the Sensation because I like Sense and hopefully developers can obtain better results, but at this point the SGS2 is another level in terms of day to day performance as a device.
[HTC Sensation] greengoldmello:
Yeah you are right that American v6 will never be over complicated pieces of junk
[HTC Sensation] zim2dive:
after almost 20 years in the telecom/datacom field, doing both HW and SW I respectfully submit ....

1) sad but true.. 1st to market wins.. if you hold a product until its perfect.. it WILL be perfect and BOTH of your customers (who waited.. and waited .. and waited) will thank you.... I say BOTH, b/c the other 2 billion consumers will be using the less-perfect product which a) shipped 6 months ago (with 20 pages of errata/bugs) b) has seen multiple updates since then which bring it up to snuff.

2) Sense 3.0 is brand new... of course it won't be perfect and won't be perfectly optimized... altho I have to say in my daily use, I don't see anything to complain about with regard to performance (I do have some quibbles about 1 or 2 design decisions)

Its a brand new GUI on top of a brand new chip... it works very well now (IMO) and will only get better.
[HTC Sensation] zim2dive:
Our phone scores very well on the new Vellamo benchmarks. (#2 in the rankings)

I got a 758.. not clear on what the Sensation 2.3 is? (sensation with stock Android instead of Sense?)... the javascript appears to be the area where my phone did worse vs. Sensation 2.3.
[HTC Sensation] esincho:
2.3 is gingerbread
[HTC Sensation] orangekid:
I think we're missing the big picture here, let's look at it from a new angle.

An Evo4G scores drastically better in EVERY benchmark with CM7 as opposed to the stock GB rom, it also performs much better and faster.

Touchwiz4 is not CPU intensive at all compared with the cumbersome Sense3.0.

We really need to compare CM7 vs CM7 on both phones (or CM8 when ICS comes out).

This whole argument of benching a device carrying a big ass anchor (sense3.0) and pushing 33% more pixels on over a ROM with very dubious drivers is not going to tell you very much.

I am going to buy the Sensation because there will be more development, and if you want Sense you probably won't get it on the SGS2. Look at the HD2 Android upgrade forums and there's more ROMs than any SGS device I've seen. And the HD2 didn't even come shipped with Android! Look at the Desire/Nexus upgrades, the Evo4G...

HTC will have better development and when we can compare CM vs CM we'll get a better picture.
[HTC Sensation] Bxsteez:
This is the reason i bought the sensation instead of the G2x. I like to run CM7 but sometimes I like to run sense as well. Being able to switch between the too is a nice part of having an HTC device.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] V@no:
Hello.

Is there a way disable repeat notification after receiving a new email (IMAP/POP3)?

Currently if a new email received at night I have to get up and open the email otherwise the notification sound will repeat every 15 minutes (after each scheduled check).

Running latest stock rom (2.2.2)

Thank you.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kururunfa:
I have the same problem with both email and SMS messages,

wakes me up repeatetly in the middle of the night
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pukemon:
Put your phone on silent?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kururunfa:
That does not resolve the real problem,

it should not repeat the same email or SMS message after it is received once, if I delete the message it will come back over and over again,

must be a bug.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evil.Bonsai:
Most likely due to using multiple accounts for messaging. Start by turning off notifications in the phone settings. Then open up the email app and do the same thing (or texting app or whatever). Once all the notifications are off, go back and use only one system for the notifications.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] V@no:
It's my morning alarm as well..

what do you mean "use one system"? I don't use any third party software for messaging.
[XPERIA X8 General] siamisai:
Im using Froyo0.29 on my X8,but im facing a big problem,sometimes when i sms to A,the sms will be sent to B,just because i got a sms from B in the inbox.Mean sometimes when i need to sms somebody,the sms will not sent to that person,it will "choose" and sent the sms to somebody that have sms stored in my inbox instead of the [erson i need to sms to.Anyone facing this problem too?Need your help to provide a solution for this.

Other common problems are:

1. The battery power gone fast.

2. Keep self restarting.

Thank you.
[XPERIA X8 General] codfreak:
Where did you get the 0.29?

I thought there are only the older versions and 0.25 and 0.30 and nothing in beetween.....

And for your other problems:

Let the battery go to 0%.

Then connect your phone to AC and boot go into xrecovery and wipe the battery stats.

And for your other problem, try full wipe (but be sure you´ve backed app your SMS/apps/settings/appdata because they all will be DELETED if you do that.
[Verizon Droid Charge] braveally:
Hey, I'm having an issue. I followed this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122657 to flash my charge with PBJ Kernal (voodoo) and GummyCharged 1.8.5. Like it but I keep receiving notices saying that the android core closed unexpectedly, with several programs receiving the same errors. I decided I want to go back to the stock rom (just for now) but with voodoo still enabled. I plan to follow this guide to go back to stock http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1121201.

My problem is that i seem to be unable to disable voodoo in CWM whenever I try. After each try, I never hear the voice and my quadrant score is still around 1600.

How do I proceed, with my end goal being stock with voodoo enabled?
[Verizon Droid Charge] apascual89:
If CWM recovery is not working for you, try the Voodoo Control App by supercurio. There's a free or paid version.

Once you open the app scroll down to voodoo lagfix and you should see if it's active, then go in to lagfix preferences and uncheck everything and it should deactivate it on next boot.