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[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Eh, it's all personal preference. I think the vibrant colors make the screen beautiful. And rumor has it SGSII has better hardware (especially the camera). But enough, I like both phones but do prefer Samsung over HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Yes.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-shows-affection-to-cyanogenmod-gives-its-devs-a-free-ga/
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Yeah i thought I seen it on Twitter that they got the sgs2 not sure if it was for free..

I know they got a few tmobile phones and a tablet to mess with for free 90 free

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[HTC EVO 3D] NORCALkID:
Samsung realized how crappy their OWN development crew is are and are putting their products in hands of people who have 9-5 jobs and develop for fun lol :)
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Haha Yup then when ice cream drops.. and people say "hey samsux we want ice cream update!

Samsux will say and I future quote

" we are currently working on other devices at the moment (make a new phone) and are unable to give any specific details or ETA's to when our software developers will get a chance to kang a update for your **** brick you bought from us.... If you want a update talk to CM dev team... Kthxbye"

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[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Who's Samsux?
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Google it :)

Here I took the work out of it for you.

http://forums.cnet.com/7726-13973_102-3232924.html

Also refer to samsuck;samsucks;samsux

:)

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[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
GSII owns the evo, hardware wise and software wise
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Because you have both in hand to compare and your a top notch software and hardware expert

You only read and repeat

Get a iPhone you ass clown

Oh and I forgot! your opinion matters

:rollyeyes:

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[HTC EVO 3D] :
Your opinion
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Hmm I didn't know an exynos chipset, which has destroyed the tegra 2 and dual snapdragon in performance was an opinion or a super amoled plus display with better colors, viewing angles and power saving features is an opinion or the hardware accelerated browser vs CPU rendered browser on evo 3d is an opinion too?

I am an evo owner which was one of the hottest phones of yesterday but come on bro lets be honest round 2 (2011) is owned by Samsung. Even apple is scurred son

Just be real
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Haha why do you take it personal?

I don't need an iPhone all I'm saying is the evo 3d is no match for a gsii if your a " gotta have the best and latest hardware" kinda guy if your not just enjoy your evo 3d

Haha I'm an ass because your phone is not the best? As long as it's the best for your needs what does it matter?
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
It's not confirmed that the US version will come with the exynos chipset... But it passed fcc with NVIDIA tegra 2.. so be realistic and even if its has a exynos chipset...... Goodluck getting ice cream when ANYONE else gets it...

Only cool feature of the sgs2 "european" spec is it can slide under a door..............

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[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Because your a arrogant dumb **** that only reads specs... Have you EVER touched a sgs2? My magic 8 ball app says doubtful

So you come onto a EVO 3d forum to voice your opinion on how you "read and seen obviously bias reviews" and think you know its better...

Again your opinion matters about the same as engadgets reviews

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[HTC EVO 3D] :
Samething can be said for processors with computers... No one is going to waste their time arguing with a person that only knows how to read spec sheets.

Edit: I am also not going to bother responding to your posts either. Go have fun in your corner.

Edit #2: I also take it you would like Sharps Quattron screen with its oversaturated colors?

Edit #3: Apple has nothing to be scared about. Apple owns the cell phone market. I don't like it, but you need to be realistic.

Why don't you "be real" bro.
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Haha I assume you speak of the software support on samsungs behalf you do realize their is 4 variants because our greedy ass carriers here in corporate America have to add all their bloatware and garbage on to the phones. The European sgs never had any update delays in fact it was the first to receive gingerbread apart from nexus. All I'm saying is Samsung is really starting to step up.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
SGSII is so fast it doesn't need ICS. Epic has better benchmarks on Froyo STOCK than EVO 4G's most overclocked kernel. The GPU in the Epic and Cortex CPU simply blows away the OG Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Did you know AMOLED screens use 5x the power a normal lcd screen does to display "white or soft colors" so all the power your "saving" is ruined by that alone

Your opinion is invaild due to the fact you really only read specs on phones and probably buy them off the reviews

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[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Haha damn didn't mean to hurt you guys this bad haha

Spec sheets? Haha I buy a new phone every couple months bro and I will continue to do so, I love android damn you guys will fight to the death over HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Are we going to have one of these threads in the EVO 3D forum? My goodness some of you people just need to make yourself feel better to justify your purchase. If you like Samsung, then go to them. Same can be said with HTC. The only thing that can be said is Samsung will not have the dev support HTC has on their devices.
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Have you noticed 2.3 has a lot of black menus and such? There's a reason for that bro
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
And benchmarks mean a lot.

Poorly coded apps = inaccurate data

And most benchmarks can be "falsely increased" buy just changing a few I/O reads and fps hacks...

Even with a stock ROM each company uses different read and writes .... Now most are ext3 and ext4

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[HTC EVO 3D] EricSS619:
Every Samsung I've ever held felt like a childs plastic toy, where as HTC's products always felt like quality.
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
I already told you I don't stick with one company that's almost as dumb as apple fanboys.

Android is about choice, I own an evo .. I've owned a nexus one, epic, g2, etc

So the spec sheet excuse is dumb just try it out you'll see why everyone is raving about gsii (today)
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Yes they use cheaper materials then HTC but HTC uses weaker chips then Samsung what's the point? They both cut costs somewhere
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I can careless about a Spec sheet for a phone... If I'm going to brag about specs, then I'll brag about my computer. And for the benches, I leave that for the gym.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
So your telling me Google made gingerbread specifically for Samsung's AMOLED screen....

Now your reaching for argument points

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[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Yes they actually did, have you noticed who makes Google's current developer phone? Have you noticed Samsung and Google are getting real close? Yes amoled has something to do with it
[HTC EVO 3D] :
WOW, you can't be serious.... LMFAO

I'm definitely done now.

Ciao
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I don't see dev support going on, considering the s-off situation. actual development wont start until the sgs2 comes out. And sgs2 Community is rapidly growing. I think the reason htc gets so many sales is because of their release dates. When the next samsung phone comes out, everyone used their upgrade on the htc phone that came out two months earlier.

However, I still like htc...just like samsung more. loved my htc hero (modded the hell outta it) and loved the samsung Epic. I think my current opinion was formed because htc locked the phone (no actual reason has been given either, just theories). If we make such a minority of the sales, why block something so insignificant?
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Big balla, just relax son your phone is a really good phone why are you stressing if you don't care about specs then.. just let it be
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Lmfao show me a link please god show me one that states Google made gingbread for Samsung phones over ALL android phones

Because that is a ****ing joke

And it better be a "credible" site

And Samsung made 1 Google phone?

They are not in a license agreement for Samsung to make all Google phones

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[HTC EVO 3D] :
I am "relaxed" son. I can careless in what your brain is processing. I didn't even say the EVO specs were better. The first comment I said was "Your opinion." And this is what it is, your opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Not over ALL android phones but the use of black is a widely known power saving feature for amoled why wouldn't they do it for their dev phone?
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
OK its my opinion then. We still on the same Android team bro, no hard feelings... I would let you hit greens right now
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
4 variants of a phone = broken up development

EVO 3d is a sprint "exclusive" just like the og EVO whitch has tons of development

Not all sgs2's are gonna have the same basebands,radios or firmware so yeah if you add up all 4 variants it could = more than the EVO 3d but still

Sgs2 has multiple software and hardware problems for being such a "god like superphone that blows all others away"

****ed radios

Over saturated and washed out colors

Poor resolution

Burn ins

Yellow/pink tints

Yeah all phones have problems but many people will choose a user friendly company over a company that gives 0 ducks about customers

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[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I am curious if the sprints version of sgs has tegra or not...
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
My bad bro I was a jerk I like HTC honestly but they dissapointed (me) this time around. I wish we could all smoke a bleezy together and discuss geek topics
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Hahahahahha that's epic bro
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Alright let's cut the chatter before things get out of hand.

Do it for XDA!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
No gingerbread was not "based" of the AMOLED screen or what ever point your trying to get across. and I'm still waiting for a link that even CLAIMS this

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[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Actually, T-mobile gets the 3D, too. My epic on wifi gets better speeds than my 3d on wifi. And its even on a leaked gingerbread build. Lol

The resolution is the same as the og Evo's so I don't see how you're defending htc with that. We're getting technical about the screens now? The og evo had two diff screen manufacturers creating noticable differences and now same thing's going on with the 3VO. Oh, did I mention that samsung doesn't lock their bootloaders, but rather encourage development by handing out free phones to devs?

The washed out colors is purely opinion, as I think the vivid colors produced by the amoled screen makes the phone much nicer looking.
[HTC EVO 3D] joehunni:
Chipset wise, Samsung has been ahead of the curve since the Epic, thing is, they've made nothing better than said phone in the last year... Samsung phones are cheaply made 3oz pieces of plastic that feel just as cheap as the unsupporting manufacturer treats them by never updating their POS phones. Bottom line, HTC -synonymous with quality, Samsung - known for cheap dysfunctional hardware, and buggy, updateless software. If the US SGS2 doesn't ship with the Exnyos, which it probably won't, then it's not gonna be the big deal people think it will be.
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Yea development will be broken cause of the variants your better off buying the euro sgsII..

I read it on a couple websites that Google made the menus and dialer etc to save power on their flagship
[HTC EVO 3D] joehunni:
3VO screen res is higher, look it up. Samsung gave Cyanogen some GS2s because they cannot, in confidence, write their own software. Open to dev community or not, Epic had no development.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Again sprint exclusive the tmobile version will not have the same features just like each variant of the sgs2

And the screen technicality was brought up on how much more "beautiful" the AMOLED screen is...

I've seen that a lot of people *****ed about the "faded" resolution vs any other qhd spec'd phone

I'm done arguing I gotta get up and take my little brother swimming

I thank all of you that argued with me! I loved it and that's why I love xda we get to throw our e-punches (opinions) and specs at eachother..

It's been real... It's been fun... But it hasn't been real fun :(

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[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I recall being able to change my density on the Epic to even higher resolution than the 3d, i'd find the thread for it if I was on a computer. And development was smaller, but still atleast a third of that of the og evo (as stated earlier, htc is more popular...for now. :))
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Lol I gotta admit arguing is fun. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
One more thing before I pass ass out :)

Yes you can "change resolution" but it doesn't look as good as factory... And just think what the EVO 3d will look like with a already "stunning" (in my personal opinion) high res screen and the the tool that allows adjustments for even higher res

Mmmmmmmm.. can't wait

Night all!

And yeah I like arguing (disregard any name calling I got a Potty mouth and it gets out of control)

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[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Yes it is...in the end we are all a bunch of geeks... in secrecy
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I LET MY GEEK FLAG FLY!
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Lol. Epic just got dualboot support!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1155613

Talk about the power of samsung!﻿
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
Hahhahah wtf...btw I showed my girl the squirrel one and she started cracking up
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I wouldn't say yay Samsung, but the dev who did it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Yea, hes good and samsung treats him well.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Alright in all seriousness, I am done for the night. I really am! I do like talking to each of one of you guys. Even when they can be arguments, they can be enlightening ones! Those are the arguments we need!

Good night XDA brothers, and sisters!
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
G'night
[HTC EVO 3D] onslaught86:
Interesting thread, has been fun reading both sides. I've come to the same conundrum slightly differently, since I'm not in the US and CDMA is not an option. Long and probably uninteresting backstory follows:

I've been an HTC fan for some time - came from a WinMo background (as my sign shows) and got an HD2 in March last year. Went through the wonderful first inklings of Android development, tried WP7 too, and concluded that Android was definitely the way forward.

Had a GSM variant of the original Evo been released alongside the CDMA I'd have bought it in a heartbeat. As-is, when the Desire HD reared its head its specs were behind the times, and I didn't feel it was enough of an upgrade over the HD2 to bother with. Ended up getting a bit tired of the HD2's physical buttons and average screen, so grabbed a cheap Vibrant in March of this year. Loved it - especially the screen - but development was severely lacking compared to the HD2, and Gingerbread was pretty half-baked. No disrespect to the devs, the i9000 got all the love while the US variants got the shaft - carriers delayed firmware releases, which in turn delayed drivers that were necessary for custom ROMs.

So I sold the Vibrant to a workmate that was looking to get into the Android world, and picked up an i9000 to replace it - I would've gone HTC at the time, as I honestly prefer HTC's industrial design, build quality, general aesthetic, and heavy dev support - but the i9000 was there at the time and cheap. Ended up selling that too, since I got a good offer on it, and in my haste to find a new phone quickly I actually paid the hideous inflated full local retail price on a GSII.

Y'see, my intention had been to get a Sensation when it was announced - it had everything I wanted except an AMOLED screen. But the GSII's extra RAM and performance of Samsung's processor over Qualcomm's had me skeptical. It was my intention to wait for the rumoured GSM Evo 3D - yet we still don't have a release date for it. Hell, it's not even officially official yet.

So, with HTC being too slow to market - even with the increased resolution as a big draw - Samsung have got my dollar this year. Make no mistake, the Galaxy S II is amazing. It doesn't feel cheap like the first Galaxy S, and I don't consider the eventual release of a GSM Evo 3D to be enough of an improvement to swap out my GSII for. It's a shame, as I'd have preferred to go HTC - although I will say that Touchwiz gets a bad rap, it's actually surprisingly good. Less pretty than Sense, in some cases downright tacky-looking, but I'd say it's more functional.

It doesn't make much sense for you US blokes to shell out for the GSII over the Evo 3D when the GSII is so much more expensive - I'd really recommend giving it a try in person if you have a chance, though. Hopefully HTC's next generation of steroid-spec'd superphones is more compelling - and released sooner. I remain a Samsung user but an HTC fanboy - feels a bit like those who chose to go the iRoute because it was the most compelling hardware and ecosystem at the time. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] awenthol:
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-vs-htc-evo-3d/

Funny how they compare things so...un-scientifically...and claim the S2 beats out the 3D. :confused:

Anyway, bought the 3D and will be sticking with it. Don't care about the "numbers" at this point, because it is the perfect speed. My EVO was just about there, otherwise I woudl have kept it...

Here's the easiest response...buy whichever you like better. It IS that simple.
[HTC EVO 3D] buckless:
got the evo 3d and compared to my og evo -i hate it-wish i never traded mine in.was running deck's 2.3.4 now i'm stuck with 2.3.3can't see the damn screen(fonts so small),can't hear the damn thing(speaker sucks)no su permission,sucks.hoping for unlocked sg2 soon
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
Maybe it's me but the fonts don't seem small on the 3d. Maybe I just don't remember my EVO as I got rid of it a week before the 3d release but did they seem that much larger?

I did have my 3d next to my friends Thunderbolt last week and all I remember saying to myself was, man his screen seems so much larger. Don't know why HTC thinned out the screen.

Wish the Sammy was coming out soon because I would have liked to play with both before making a decision.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Yeah, the past couple days really got me thinking....I've got my CM7+Tiamat 4G sitting on my desk all the time....every now and then I just put them side by side and go "whoa"....sure, the 4G's Novatek panel looks purpley side by side...but that goes away without reference....but, aside from that....I like the fat 4G screen, a lot. I think I'll just bring this thing back tomorrow. Even the pixel density isn't helping anymore.

Sad. I couldn't even make it 30 days and bring it back for the unlock. Sucks.

So...is the NS4G or SGS2 going to be 15:9? Anyone know? Cuz if so, done deal....and I keep the EVO just to be safe...
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I noticed the GSII beat EVO 3D in battery life (rated on talk time). That is only because the GSII is currently only GSM capable (3g technology) and gsm has better battery performance. It has nothing to do with the actual phone itself (if the GSII was CDMA too, then the EVO 3D would be victorious in battery life). Seemed the reviewers were a little ignorant on that part of the test. Still looking good for the GSII though. I really hope it doesn't come to the US with the Tegra 2 Chipset. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Tegra 2 and NVIDIA was pretty nice on the g2x which had a BAD screen just ugly.. but ****ing owned sgs2 on any game index... (over 110 fps on quadrant) I dunno I would rather see it come with exynos but I think a tegra 2 NVIDIA

Would match well with the AMOLED+ screen .. it wouldn't get quadrants that most people want but would pull some nice fps (after a fps hack) and quality games

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[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
You're saying Tegra two is the best GPU processor in the market? I gotta do my research now...I thought they were to weakest as far as dual core CPUs go.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Yea but our phone is in our hands..yours is all in your imagination..so i guess if your a "gotta have the best phone" kinda guy I guess us e3d owners have the best..comparing future products..and.the sg2 May be a millisecond faster bc of its light weight ruu but we shall.see when we achieve root ..
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
The adreno 220 and sgs2 graphic processor are neck and neck. I'd give the adreno 220 a slight edge due to the sgs2 seems to have some compatibility problems with certain game formats.

Tegra 2 doesn't place a fps cap...so hence the high fps in quadrant. Another example of why your should never trust quadrant for anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Funny..I'm running 2.3 and my menus are all white..must have a messed up phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
That's because you're Sense skinned. AOSP = Google interface = Black menus.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Id say given they have there own marketed games and can blaze through any... And I mean any emulator or game yes for gaming.... But again that is on the g2x which has a lower res screen.. so who knows

And yes tegra 2 doesn't have a fps cap

And smokes a lot of phones on quadrant.

But quadrant is not the "best" for game index or gpu benchmarks

Smartbench takes that one

Which still is a benchmark and poorly coded so don't trust "specs,reviews, or benchmarks"

:)

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[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
U still up nate? I'm not a sg2 basher it looks very nice and I will give it a look when it finally releases but as of now.the e3d and sensation are the two best phones in the American market..I've watched the video and although it seems that the sg2 beats the 3d in certain speed "tests" the difference is very small and sense 3.0 is very large..everything rests on s off for the 3d..otherwise I think the phone is great except for the fact I always hit the period button when typing Lol..i know if this thing is unlocked it will be a beast..I think both phones are great and are meant for different tastes..but people need to realize that speed isn't everything especially when the differences are so minimal
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Yeah I'm still up..

I agree let's all just shut up and wait till both are running CM7 RC1 and run all the benchmarks we can :)

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[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
I know you gotta be smoking some bad drugs if you think the Epic can out perform the EVO 4g! I have a Epic, an EVO 4g, and a EVO 3D. The EVO 4g is faster stock than the Epic is WITH an EXT4 fs! And an oc kernel. Samsung said that they were gonna step up their support/updates with the Epic. You see how far that got, don't you? If you think Samsux is gonna start living up to their word now, your way too nieve.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
I'm hearing the same thing about htc "yeah yeah, we'll get that bootloader unlocked." And epic is faster. Lol any test on every site will say so.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Even then the difference will be minute except one is an iPhone clone and one is not.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/06/app...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

At this rate when the litigation is over it will be 2013 when the sgs2 comes out LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] joehunni:
LOL burn...
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Hahahahaha ouch...

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[HTC EVO 3D] Neo3D:
Where did you hear this?
[HTC EVO 3D] joehunni:
I've read it on several sites, just Google it.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlueGoldAce:
Not even announced yet. Since when has sprint not announced a high end phone a good while ahead of time? The photon and 3d where both announced way ahead of time...and the photon hasn't even been released (though july looks to possibly see the release of this phone).
[HTC EVO 3D] Harfainx:
I would bet that no new phone will be out on Sprint before the middle of August. They want those 30 day returns to be gone from all early adopters of the 3D before they throw another new phone out to all of the "I need the newest device" people. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot and have those 3Ds returned to them?
[HTC EVO 3D] TX2000:
Idk why all this posts.... Everyone knows that the kyosera echo is the best phone.. Period!...