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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhaaa:
Hello,

I have a brand new TF101, but the version is not US nor WW nor anything that I could find on the Asus web site. It's an HMJ37.TB_epad rom. Probably related to the fact that I'm in Belgium, we never do things like other people :-)

Now I want to root it, but there is no "stock" TB firmware that I could find to nvflash back if something goes wrong and/or I need to send it for repair. I did find a thread where a method to backup my own device with nvflash is described. But apparently noone tried to reflash a complete backup to see if it works, and it is also clearly said that some partitions are encrypted, so not reflashable as is. So it seems that I basically have no way back if I root. Am I misinterpreting something ? Is there some other source for stock roms with a TB variant ?

Also, I'd like to try Prime, but I read that it's for US or WW models only, so I don't know if it would work... remember that I currently have no way back if things go wrong, so I'd like to be sure :-)

I would be very gratefull if anyone could help...

Thanks,

--

Rémi
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frosty5689:
You'll need a stock TB SKU ROM to unroot and send it back for any service. As for using Prime WW/US, both will work just fine. The hardware is all the same.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhaaa:
find stock TB firmware

thanks for your answer, at least I know I can try Prime :-)

Any idea where I could find a stock TB firmware ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nosolee Toxin:
Did you try asus website?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhaaa:
yes, even the Belgian website has all the localised roms (I guess they all come from the same source), but not TB.

I'll ask my distributor, but as they are just that (distributors) I guess they won't be able to help...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhaaa:
asus answers :-(

Hi,

just for the record in case someone has the same problem:

I contacted Asus support, which told me "the TB version is not yet availlable, please be patient until it is on our web site".

With a bit more poking (ETA? will it really happen?), they added "no ETA, we will tell you when we know".

So no ETA, even informal, and no confirmation that it is indeed planned or even in the making...

A bit disappointed after reading so many (justified) praises for a device which will always recover from whatever one flashes to it. For some unknown reason, we Belgian must stay out of it :-(
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kisaten:
I'm in a similar situation; i have the Japanese version which comes with a Japanese keyboard. so using a different region will mess up the keyboard configuration. there is also a secondary program called fskaren which is like a helper for entering kanji characters (instead of a native IME like most other languages)

Like the Belgium model, there is no JP rom out yet (we're still on 3.0.1; but im not sure if Gingerbreak is patched on this version) So when I flashed prime on my transformer (1.5 with nvflash), it not only "broke" the kb (changed it to US format, so i couldnt enter japanese, the kana and font size buttons didnt work as well as some remaped keys like the @ key would show a "[") but it also ended up messing up the recovery partition.

CWM worked fine but when I tried to NVFlash it to a stock WW there was a problem: it deleted CWM fine but it couldnt fully flash the recovery partition (if i did the vol - then vol+ at boot it would give me the android with a ! symbol, I could only do a hard reset if i had the ww firmware loaded on an Sd card. i tried a bunch of combinations for stock ww for 3.0.1 and 3.1 and there was never a time where i could do a hard reset without having the renamed eee_update file on SD.

So a word of warning to people with different version hardware; be careful what you flash, especially if your hardware is noticably different from the "common" versions.

Luckily I was able to get an exchange (from the store) and now i:m waiting for the files to be released or an update so that I can root (i'm assuming that the "pure root" method will work (and I can forgo the CMW part and keep my original recovery partition since ill need FSkaren for japanese)

However, without CMW, i cant make system backups, are there any simple ways to build an NVFlash backup?

There was a link on Modaco for a gui version of nvflash but it didnt work for me (it showed no errors, the progress bar just goes to 100 but no files were created).

I read the thread with the script for doing a backup, would someone like to explain how that one works? (Im assuming through adb but there are some details about restoration that I cant understand)

Id really like to be able to make a recovery for the JP version as I have found that there are quite a few people here who had flashed prime and found that the keyboard functionality had been borked (id like to be able to help them and im sure that it would be useful for building a repository for all the international versions out there.

does anyone want to write a tutorial?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhaaa:
hi, thanks for your answer.

Our situations are a bit different because the TB 3.1 rom does exist, my transformer is running it. My problem is just that I cant find it as a standalone flashable download, and I cant find a reliable way to backup my current rom as a whole.

Now Belgium has indeed its own keyboard layout, that must be the reason for the custom rom, and apparently I would loose it by flashing prime or any custom rom... crap... keyboard layout should just be a config file :-(

Anyway, I wont touch that beast until I have a reliable way to come back, and will keep this thread informed of my findings if any.

Thanks,

--

Rèmi
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kisaten:
The Keyboard layout is partially a configuration file for the JP version. A few Japanese people have remapped the keyboard so it matches when running Prime, but since there is no Japanese IME (except voice) our versions need a soft keyboard which runs together with the dock (when you want to type in Japanese). So even with the keyboard settings files in the right place, we would still need the software to add work it.

As for backing up, take a look at this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1129308

I haven't had time to try it (I need to learn how to use it properly first, someone mentioned a possibility of bricking on restore) but it looks like it can be a solution.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhaaa:
yep that's the thread that I saw to make my own backup. The problem is that noone tried the restore part :-)

Furthermore, they clearly say that some partitions are encrypted and should not be restored, but apparently they don't know which ones for sure... so although promising, not an option right now.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
on the same HMJ37.TB boat

hello rhaaa,

I'm just posting to tell you we are on the same belgian boat :)

So I thank you for having created the topic, I hope you (and other belgian buyers) can keep us updated about this flash issue. Of course, I'll do the same if I have some fresh info.

By the way, did you do the recent OTA? I'm still on the 8.4.4.5.2-20110603 build.

regards from Brussels,

oliwek
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belblade:
i rooted yesterday BEFORE i read this thread. Have done only root + installed CWM

was going to install a custom rom but might hold off a bit more... Although the fact that i am now rooted will probably stop me from getting new OTA updates?

if I feel lucky, i might install a new rom anyway and hope an original one has surfaced by the time I will actually need it

BUT: does flashing to eg prime rom will make it so that my azerty dock will be in qwerty mode?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovla:
Belgium always does things differently in regard to Android, rumor is it's legally regulated somehow.

I will abstain from rooting until the original TB SKU comes out. Keep us posted, if anyone comes across a TB SKU! Cheers!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
I also would like to know if using a WW firmware, or a custom ROM, creates regional issues with a belgian AZERTY keyboard/dock.... any experience to share?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
Could you give me details about the process you did follow? Did you root the last OTA firmware? what is the build?

thank you

edit : sorry for the double post

for people reading dutch, I suppose this is related : http://www.sigridschrijft.be/index.php/geen-youtube-app-in-belgie-door-rechtzaak-sabam/

(no youtube app on different android devices for the belgian market)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belblade:
i used the topic :	[ROM] Transformer 3.1 pure root and worked like a charm

don't remember the exact version but is the one before .11...

still debating on which rom i will try first :) might wait for prime 1.6 ...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
thanks for the details :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belblade:
now that we have some belgians united: has anyone of you been able to install youtube ? i just can't figurer it out.. Not available in the market. Have gotten an apk from somewhere but that didn't install and have tried market access with different codes and that didn't work either...

any help is appreciated !
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
try with this file attached (works on 3.1 but not on 3.0, or so I have heard)

edit : sorry, you already probably did try with this file, but are you on android 3.1? what is the error message if this doesn't work?

you could try to use alogcat before retrying to install, to get a detailed log

edit : by the way, I wonder if you change your localisation in Android for Netherland or France, or if you use a public proxy to get an IP located abroad, you wouldn't then find youtube for tablet on the market.... You could find several google apps you couldn't find in Europe if you used an american IP through public proxy, so this could work...

see for example this : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1072655&page=9

Belgian will get youtube on their tablet when using it from their vacation spot in Torre Molinos :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belblade:
it worked with the apk you provided ! Thanks a million

I had a similar apk from tweakers.net that didn't work ...

you're a life-saver !
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
good news, fine

for people interested, I did follow the topic Pure root (3.1) to root the tablet, before and after the OTAs (official updates "Over The Air") . After a successfool root, you still recieve OTA updates from Asus (if you just did that, and didn't change the original ROM for a custom one), but you have to root the device back after each update (each time I have used, from 8.4.4.5 OTA to 8.4.4.11 OTA, the last boot_ww_84411.zip file from the topic linked above)

to check you are really succesfool with your root, install and use root checker

I am now on rooted build HMJ37.TB_epad-8.4.4.11-20110711, still with the stock recovery, but with several apps that didn't work before (for wifi tethering, root explorer, adfree...)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
links for a rooted device

read this interesting article about why to root your android device :

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/

and a 3-part list of several among the best apps for rooted devices :

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-3-apps-17-25/

other question already asked by someone else earlier on this thread : are the WW ROMs compatible with the belgian keyboard? (any input, even about other AZERTY keyboards with custom ROMs, would be welcome....)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belblade:
i spy with my little eye:

Eee Pad Transformer TF101 Firmware: V8.4.4.11 Only for TB SKU(Android 3.1)

on the asus website ! this means we can now safely unroot and revert back to an original rom !

anyone care to give it a try ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
thanks to bring this up.

for those interested, go there and choose android as OS

I'll just keep this in case I have ever to return the Transformer for an exchange...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
a small update : I did the last OTA official update on my rooted 3.1 Transformer, leading to a new 3.2 android tablet, and did succeed to root it back afterwards with the "pure root" method linked above, but choose the last 8.6.5.6 boot img (or else the tablet won't boot anymore) : using the US 8.6.5.6 boot img was successfull for my belgian 8.6.5.7 tablet :)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/p20110806140127.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/p20110806135807.png/
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belblade:
but the only thing your 3.1 had was root ? no custom bootloader or rom I presume ?

I have root, cwm and clemsyn's 3.1 rom on mine and still the systems keeps asking me to update (like every friggin' 10 minutes)

what would happen if i let that run ?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
Yes, it was just a rooted tablet, no custom rom yet, and even no clockworkmod either...

no idea what will happen if you update, but you can do a nandroid backup to be safe... Did you search on a forum related to your custom ROM to see what others post as comments?

If you do update, try to clear the cache(s) as much as possible or you could be stuck on continual reboot (my experience on android phones with custom ROMs)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovla:
So how exactly do you revert your TB TF101 back to stock, provided you have custom recovery and custom ROM? I suppose it is not simply done with the firmware file downloaded from the ASUS website?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kovla:
Since we seem to have our own Belgian club here, the news is that the TB got added to Brk's rootkit:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1198303

Enjoy.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
I'm just back from abroad (2 weeks without internet, I had already forgotten our old way of life, without easy answers one click away :) )

Thank you for your input, kovla, interesting. No linux or blank media where I am right now, so I flashed the last OTA update (build HTJ85B.TB_epad-8.6.5.9_20110816) and did root back the same way as before (with boot.img from boot_us_8659.zip)...

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5521/ota865920110816.png

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9291/rooted.png

If you have custom recovery and the original Asus ROM, you can revert back to factory settings, but your custom recovery (a separate thing on its own partition) still won't be the original Asus recovery (so Asus can see you did flash some unofficial things) ; maybe they won't care, maybe they will (after all they gave a tool to flash bricked devices, if I recall correctly).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oleg77:
hello, a small update to say : the "PURE ROOT" method is still working with the last OTA (android 3.2.1), build HTK75.TB_epad-8.6.5.13-20110925

Of course it could be easier to use the method kovla pointed to (the linux based brk's rootkit), nice one.
[P3600 General] JensiL:
P3600 is with update fallen and now it breaks off every attempt with 1%! Have, unfortunately, original Rome WM5 of Vodafone not and with the normal one it does not go.

Does somebody have an idea??

Sorry my english is very bad and with a Übersetzungsprogram written.

THX Jens
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] beston94:
Hello is it safe to move dalvik cache using an app called a2sdGUI to move it from internal storage to sd ext? My sd card is a class 2 8gb btw don't know if that matters though.

For example would it slow down my phone?

I would really appreciate any kind of help from anyone!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malybru:
Hi,

No "CLICK" for you :D

Why do you want to move the dalvik cache?

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] beston94:
No click :p?

I want to move it because it will make more internal space for me.:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malybru:
Hi,

Best thing to do is Nandroid backup,and then move dalvik cache.

If it's good,leave it.

If it's no good,restore original.

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] beston94:
Alright, thanks a lot for the quick replies.
[HTC Sensation] motoman234:
Hey guys and gals,

I've never owned a device with Gorilla glass display since my Vibrant and I only had it for a few days. I was wondering, for those that do not use a screen protector. Is a screen protector needed?

I've always used Invisashelid but I really like the feel of just glass and if I got even the tiniest scratch I would O.C.D on it and it would dive me nuts.

So in short, does the Gorilla Glass work well enough to where you don't need a screen protector at all?

The guy at T-Mobile told me that the Sensation does not have GG but after doing to little Google-ing it seems it does. I know this is a funny question but I wanted to get peoples opinions about it before I made my phone naked :) (besides the case).
[HTC Sensation] wideasleep1:
If you're even remotely OCD (which you claim you are)..USE PROTECTION! Then you can only blame yourself. :p
[HTC Sensation] ScooterG:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1137760&highlight=gorilla+glass

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1152154&highlight=gorilla+glass

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1104342&highlight=gorilla+glass

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1087817&highlight=gorilla+glass
[HTC Sensation] EddyOS:
GET A PROTECTOR/CASE/BOTH - I've got a scratch on mine:(
[HTC Sensation] motoman234:
Major fail on my part, I have no idea how I didn't see that :o. Thanks for the heads up, I'll close the thread.
[Defy General] cosminmocan:
HI i instaled a while ago cyanogen and beacuse of the crazynes of the battery i deleted its status with custom recovery mod its was all ok but i changed back to official because of the bugs of cyanogen and now my battery is very low it used to keep my like 3 days or so and now 2 or 2 and a half i dno what to do flash the sbf again or just delet the battery status again

From cm7 i changed back to official using a backup i have made before installing cyanogen LATEST ONE and i have cee froyo please help me
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waux:
Hi developes.

Have somebody time and skill to make some cool verbal notification sounds?

For example: when (dis)connected to computer, when (dis)connected to charger.

Or when car profile (de)activates. cool or what? :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Definition of Cool ???

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidFreud:
I don't know about him but I'm guessing something right out of the sci-fi movies. You know either the cool Android'ish hot chick, sexy woman voice/kick-ass, CIA covert operative male voice that sounds a little like it's synthesized.

That's my biggest beef with most of those talking apps (like StartTalking - which is really cool in many ways but fails here) - they all seem to be leaning towards more Stephen Hawking than anything else cool. Seeing that disk space isn't really much of an issue any more, I wish someone would make a database of really cool sounding voices and use that as a bank to draw from or even allow you to train it into this voice (like what that annoying Talking Tom cat thing does but only convert it into something cooler sounding) instead of this lousy Microsoft Sam & Microsoft Mary crap :)

I mean how cool would it be if your battery was low & was about to switch off and the phone went, in a hot sexy synthesized Tron'esque voice, "System...shutting down, system...shuting down" :D

Yeah sure it's geeky but all I'm saying is when he have the MS Mary crap anyway, why not someone go the full mile. Gimme the future already or at least let's fake it!

- Not sure if any of that is even possible but fingers crossed someone does that soon. Hopefully some sci-fi fan / Android developers get their hands on it soon!

:end rant: apologies

-AndroidFreud.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Hopefully some sci-fi fan / Android developers get their hands on it soon!

Sc-Fi Yuck for kids and spotty adolescents . Why not the whole 1812 Overture .

The point i was making is the one persons cool is another persons would not be seen dead with that .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidFreud:
Agreed! But at least let's hope someone starts with this :D

-AndroidFreud.
[HTC Sensation] Lennydk87:
Hey everytime I'm watching a video on YouTube through the YouTube app, it makes the phone incredibly slow, the video and sound runs as it should, but the app it self runs slow and when I lock

and unlock the phone, the silver "unlock ring" moves really slow, it can't even catch up to my finger... :P

I've tried running full flash content from the browser, and that works well.

Anyone else got this problem?
[HTC Sensation] ScooterG:
I don't think this is an issue with the phone. I think it has to do with too many RayWJ videos.
[HTC Sensation] Lennydk87:
What?

If you dont know what is wrong, please keep your mouth as shot as possible.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
He was just being silly.

I watch a ton of youtube on mine and it operates very well. Always high quality also. If I lock the screen... sure it might give me some lag unlocking. Same thing if I do it during a 3d game. I wouldn't consider this unusual as the youtube or game was properly sucking up all the system resources it could handle.
[HTC Sensation] Sum14u2nvy:
I don't know what you guys are talking about. It doesn't lag for me. Check Task Manager to see what's running and end all applications besides Youtube.
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
Yeah, keep your mouth shot. But seriously, it's just you dude. Try rebooting your phone.
[HTC Sensation] c@rL0$:
I can confirm the OP's findings. I too experience the same issue when using YouTube to listen to some random songs. I lock my phone after the song loads. When I try to unlock my phone it is very laggy and it feels as if the phone is using a lot of memory when it really isn't.
[HTC Sensation] gcarloss:
You Tube

Being watching lots of clips using You tube no issues. I have an issue with the sound quality. Anyone having this issue?:(
[HTC Sensation] Lennydk87:
Tonight I made a little video of the phone running in slow motion while playing a YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFJWDH-JeE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[HTC Sensation] idavid_:
Same with mine.

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[HTC Sensation] B-Man2005:
Ehhhmmmm mmhh ... Qiuck solution ?

Close YouTube when you don't use it?
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
To stream and buffer your phone IS using memory. Where do you think it stores the data? Videos aren't small.

I didn't know youtube streamed music. Are you talking about music videos?

That performance didn't look horrible. You are streaming fyi. I don't know about you but when I watch a video... I actually like to WATCH the video... full screen. If I need to do other crap with my phone I'll just pause and do other stuff.
[HTC Sensation] pantlesspenguin:
I'm trying to take some pics of jewelry I want to sell on ebay. The only camera I have is on the Sensation. I try to auto focus, it gets clear for a split sec, then it goes back to blurry when I take the pic. I've tried tapping on the focus box on the screen before I take the pic & the same thing happens. Any suggestions?
[HTC Sensation] wrek:
Have you tried changing the scene to CLOSE-UP?