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[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Actually for 2 years i built my own roms for android and am still a registered dev on android and wp7. Its no matter of being tech illiterate, as far as tablets go i don't expect or want to see any new endeavors from Microsoft until the public release of windows 8 because thus far they have been nothing short of mind-blowing and in the code there's even implications that it may be the same code utilized on windows phone 8 (e.g. Sms coding in windows 8 desktop edition) for me it has nothing to do with being tech savvy, i wanted a phone that didn't require more maintenance than all of my pcs combined to keep functional Or a phone that i had to download 40 third party aps on just to have some functions that i would consider almost necessary for day to day usage... I honestly think that games aside i have not downloaded one item from the marketplace and yet i find more use in wp7 than i ever did android.
[General Topics] majorpay:
Then you obviously don't have the same requirements from your device as I do. At some point, if you strip flexibility from the phone, what's the point in even buying a smartphone?
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Best browsing experience, best UI, best implementation of social networking sites and what is, at least to me, the best instant messaging service. Great gaming that also helps my gamer score and many other features that I just can't find elsewhere.
[General Topics] majorpay:
UI and browsing, maybe, but probably not compared to an i-phone. And as far as UI is concerned, that's in the eye of the beholder - customization? It, like the iPhone, completely fails.

Social networking - a matter of opinion.

Instant messaging service - a matter of opinion, and lacking on options.

Gaming helping gamer score - niche feature.

It's all bunk and opinion based on your needs/wants. It's like starting a flame war over ice cream flavors.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
How is social networking a matter of opinion? My Facebook im messages come directly in to my SMS messaging, I i check my pics I i get an update on friends recent pic uploads with thumbnails, every aspect of the phone syncs with Facebook and soon twitter. The iphone ui is cluttered junk and only appeals to the general consensus because it's so easy a four year old can do it. (my four year old sister actually has one.) just like Macs the iPhone was made for people who weren't that bright, android was made for people who have forever to spend on their devices just to keep them functional but are generally bright. Wp7 found common ground and packed it in a much tidier package and I have to say, the uniformity across not only the phone and its default apps but third party apps in most cases is just impeccable. I get the feeling that you have yet to partake in the astounding experience that is wp7.
[General Topics] majorpay:
I'll address this vaguely (as I need to do some work here): I wouldn't want my Facebook to spam my IM - but then, I get the feeling that you are younger and value this constant distraction. I'd much rather have my Facebook operate as it does. If you want to compare the UI, and tell me what everyone likes, you may want to consult market share figures to back up your statements. When your O.S. hits a market share that doesn't look like a margin of error, get back to me, and I'll concede that point (yeah, that quote was stolen from Ballmer himself - paraphrased, of course).
[General Topics] Nudua:
I feel like you're generalizing way too much, all kinds of different people use Macs/iPhone/Android or even WP7 it's just a matter of personal preferences.

Don't get me wrong, I do actually have a WP7 and I really like how a lot of things are done on it compared to the other OS's, but it's still a very subjective view that others may not share.
[General Topics] majorpay:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/18610/microsofts_ballmer_admits_windows_phone_7_has_so_far_failed

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[General Topics] lamebmx:
right, i aint reading this thread. 1st if the chipsets have available accelerated graphics drivers. most chipsets will. android does not require drivers built into the kernel which i assume you refered to when you said into the OS. and frankly with working across the numerous hardware platforms, the most likely drivers to crash (video card, video capture, rare, random and untested drivers) should be built as modules to prevent crashing the kernel. plus it lets you reload the modules without having to reboot.

the UI will probably not be accellerated so that accelleration can be used by applications. its been a while since i delved into indirect rendering, but well if windows cant do it on a desktop yet (3d) i doubt its in their phones. and *nix (subsequestly android) it can be done, and properly configured its buttery smooth. but we are talking phones here. so dont deny the capability that is there, can you iphone run a 3d game in a windows on a 3d accellerated home screen? if so post up some proof.

whatever your iphone can do, android can do because they are close cousins whether you want to admit that to yourself. except andoid has the bonus of being implemented quickly on any hardware. yea that right we got an x86 build where is that for iOS? all we need is a dev with a will and there is a way.
[General Topics] majorpay:
Awesome addition.
[General Topics] aFo3262:
Don't know why I keep coming back to this thread. The OP is a total fanboy which makes me annoyed that we share a phone(DVP). But the fact that people are plugging their ears to this problem is maddening. It's silly that people are pointing out individual examples or talking about the potential for easy GPU acceleration. The point is, the average consumer is not going to root or flash a custom rom/kernel and will not scour the internet for JVQ@samsung browser for example. This definitely hurts Android's perception in the market, when people on youtube upload videos of single core phones outperforming the latest dual cores. I also have a Nexus S that has lag issues, and briefly owned a Sensation with heavy lag issues. That locked bootloader prevents any changes..and it's supposed to be one of the best devices.

Majorpay is correct when GPU acceleration is not the end all be all. You can look to Honeycomb as an example, with HW acceleration for the Tegra 2 SoC. Still has performance issues, and reflects upon Google in a bad way.

iOS and WP7 are the only fully optimized platforms, and both run on native code as well. I like my Nexus S, but it's really the maps and hardware selection that keep me around.
[General Topics] uberamd:
Yep. Have you been to /r/Android, Engadget comments, the WP7 board here, or most other tech sites? Android fanboys are constantly talking about how much better their operating system is than iOS or WP7. They're always ridiculing people who make purchase decisions that don't fall in line with Android. They're always ridiculing Apple, for example because new notifications are just like Androids, without realizing that Android OS looked like Blackberry before the iPhone was released. They have this superiority complex that is nauseating. You stink of it. You are the epitome of a typical smug Android user.

I was pointing out that there is lag during web browsing, I didn't mention text lists. Again, you're being smug.

I did find that smugness, in the Android community. Where? The constant pissing contest about device specifications: "We have dual core phones, better than your iCrap", the bragging about flexibility: "We have widgets, you guys have a grid of icons on your iCrap", the comments about being Steve Jobs worshipers because someone owns an iPhone, etc. That kind of smugness, from Android fanboys, is unrivaled by any other group. Android fanboys have taken it upon themselves to become zealots, blindly following Android and ridiculing anyone who disagrees with some aspects of the platform.

Wow, more smugness and hatred. Telling me to shut the hell up? Really? I see value in ALL phone operating systems, you should too. Competition encourages innovation. At the same time, there is NO perfect phone OS, they're all good at some stuff, worse at others.

I'm curious to know, however, what you do on a daily basis that isn't possible on iOS or Windows Phone 7. Honest to god question, because you are very passionate about Android being better and haven't really said anything you do on Android that can't be replicated elsewhere. And if you mention widgets or ROMs I'm going to just add you to my ignore list, because thats not a daily activity, or even an activity at all. I'm talking functional things you do on your phone, daily, that no other OS can do.

Nah, these threads do pop up from Android users all the freaking time. Again, as an Android user who doesn't have his head in the sand (if you need help getting your head out of the sand, let me know) I am aware of this. Android fanboys are constantly bragging up their amazing devices and talking down on the competition. They're zealots. Worse than Apple fanboys. I am willing to bet that for every 1 Apple fanboy rant I find, there are at least 5 rants or condescending comments from Android zealots that I could also find.

It doesn't make me happy to say it, again, as an Android user (of probably more devices than 99% of the people here could ever hope to own), but my god the Android fanboys have become insanely annoying.
[General Topics] htc9420:
just my two cents...

I had almost any gadget there is/was and I am still using WP7 & Android devices side by side ( HD7, Focus & SGS2). I never liked nor shared any fanboy-ism for OS's ...devices...cars...

Being a part of a greater team, I have a lot of Android devs friends who find WP7 as an amazing and, hmmm maybe, more appealing to work with...I know that Silverlight is a PIA to get used to it but fragmentation on Android devices is sometimes killing the satisfaction of builing a proper app.

For me, WP7 paired with AMOLED is the sexiest UI there is now available. Sharp as a katana and yet not cluttered with every app there is out there. Using native code in WP7 ( + against MS forbidding it to the bone ) is the new Android. For the satisfaction and the results. Digging for usefull signed APIs is a thrill also.

Android was the beautiful alternative to the square IOS. Money comes in, ICrap goes out, you can't explain that....It was beautiful until some big $ started buying the freedom out of it...and filling the simple with bloatware that everybody is struggling to remove ( some making big bucks for offering tools to remove it).

For now, SGS2 has hardware acc...and working, too. There are already two GPUs but you can only develop for one- for the other we have Chainfire with a PAID app ( he deserves every penny BTW). In a few months other players will join the GPU game and we will need to keep up with them.

MS did a learned a lot from their Windows huge share. BSOD caused by drivers? we have that in Android ( random reboots actually). Malware ? Oh, we have them also...Android OS coming to a halt? Checked ... Questions? It looks like WIN 98 was reborn...
[General Topics] Tone_:
Preston Gralla is a compete moron and absolutely hates Microsoft - surprised a net dev would quote that arsehole.
[General Topics] majorpay:
The writer is not the subject - the person who made the statement is.
[General Topics] majorpay:
I normally keep my mouth shut on the subject, but as you can see, that's a little hard. The O.P. has created numerous threads devoted to promoting device superiority. It's about time someone actually put something up there.

Text lists were mentioned earlier in the thread for a reference to skipping. My web browser works fine. It suffers from a little bit of the lag that I see in my text lists, but then again, I don't spend all day browsing the internet on my phone either. In fact, it's very rare that I use the browser at all on it. It's not exactly the most convenient method of playing on the internet.

I firmly believe that was a response to the iPhone arrogance that started a long time ago.

Bull-headedness with a superiority complex, and the drive to start flame wars is not "valuing" the competition.

My navigation system is outstanding - I speak to my phone, it finds the closest place and directs me to there using voice turn by turn navigation. I speak to my phone to update a status, it does an excellent job of translating my speech into text with about an 80% accuracy. Is this something I use all the time? You bet.

I multitask and go back to things that are multitasking. I want to listen to my online music while having my navigation continue. I want to throw in a web browser if I need to into the mix. Do I utilize this? Once again, yes.

I want a centralized location from a mega-corporation to store and handle my voice mail - I don't want to pay a third party or have to go through Verizon to nickle and dime me. I want to be able to send text messages for free if I want to. Enter Google Voice.

I want to wireless tether to my other Android devices and possibly my laptop in a pinch without forking over the ridiculous fee that comes with using the Verizon method. Can I do this? Easily.

I guess they're trying to catch up to the original iPhone kids. Well, I must say, I don't hang out with that type that much. Android, IOS, and WP7 are OSs, not religions. I hear a couple iCraps thrown around occasionally, but I've never seen someone actually start a thread in an area of heavy iPhone users just to start a flame war. I suppose that's the crowd you hang with. That's not really my thing either.
[General Topics] majorpay:
Seriously:

"Android sucks, and anyone that chooses it is stupid, and I'm going to write that in a predominantly Android environment"

I mean, really? What would be the possible motivation?

I guess it's high school all over again.
[General Topics] I Am Marino:
Immaturity is so cool these days.
[General Topics] Tone_:
Gralla made multiple statements and generally talks ****.

Balmy Said: "We've gone from very small to very small but it's been a heck of a year. You're going to see a lot of progress in that market."

To put it into your type of perspective, that equates to the same or maybe even more users than Android attracted in the same period in a much more crowded market. So why is it so terrible for one but not the other - typical fanyboyism maybe?
[General Topics] majorpay:
Why does everyone act like Microsoft hasn't been in the market for like the last decade?

Gralla is probably skewed, sure.
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That's the thing; it isn't an issue, it is something people go on about, and the fact that a phone UI is intensive yet the power to run it is obviously much lower. Your Windows desktop UI isn't GPU accelerated. So essentially, it is the same situation as your desktop OS like Windows. People argue that it is a problem with Windows too...when it clearly isn't.

The actual issue is the way our manufacturer UIs are coded; a lot of them aren't optimised properly, so the solution has been to throw expensive hardware at the problem. It is to the point where people are becoming huge fanboys with certain phone models due to their power (Galaxy S2 is the latest), merely because they appear "fast". Benchmarks gallore etc. As an example of this, I dropped Sense for CM7 a while back, and my phone was consistently in a different league to use compared to a GS2; everything just was...way faster. Moved back to Sense which has improved massively over the last couple of months, and it is now the same case almost, running Sense on top. Android really isn't a difficult OS to run at its core and is generally compact and efficient, as you can probably tell from the average AOSP based ROM's
[General Topics] Tone_:
I don't think it's a decade but long enough, that said Windows Mobile is not Windows Phone, something a dev should understand.
[General Topics] majorpay:
The point is that they have been here for nearly a decade. They don't get a pass for being "new to market" because they have a new toy with a new foundation. They had many years to perfect. If they're behind the curve, that's simply of their own doing. The reality is that iPhone didn't start this market, and they are the REAL late to the scene smart phones, along with Android, and any others that came after the fact.

Denial of this fact is unadulterated fanboyism
[General Topics] Tone_:
You do realise that none of the WM apps will run on WP yet it's still the same?

unadulterated fanboyism is shouting at others what the apple fans shouted about the android os, that they it would never take off blah blah..
[General Topics] majorpay:
Are you saying that Microsoft didn't have the past decade to develop an O.S. and build upon it? Are you saying they were the underdog all these years because they didn't have a phone development sector?

They were late to the scene with no one else to blame. We aren't talking about a company that just started up a new division in a foreign field that they weren't all that familiar with.

That's what people who defend WP dev have forgotten. If they release a tablet, and it falls short, everyone will be saying: "they are new to the scene." NO THEY AREN'T. They've been literally building tablet OSs for nearly a decade!

So with all this logic, if Windows 8 is lacking in features other OSs have, and their market share is abysmal, are we going to give them a pass because it's a new framework or something? Are we going to judge them against another starter OS when the other starter OS was out for less years because Windows 8 may be a fresh outlook on OS implementation?

What if it happens to Mac? Here's the test of a fanboy - if you can answer yes to the first, and no to the second.

That's ridiculous.
[General Topics] aFo3262:
Can't say 100% for certain, but the Mac OS X certainly does leverage the GPU for animations via Cocoa and Quartz. Composite based UI that was moved over to the iPhone.

You said that the browser is a nonissue because you don't use it much. I use the browser on my phone constantly, and web browsing is a consistent factor in why people purchase smartphones. It's a poor argument to disregard something because you don't use it.

The Galaxy S2 is a good point for the need for HW acceleration. It leverages the GPU and appears super smooth to the common user. Because of this, it is regarded as one of the best Android phones and commands the highest selling price. In the forums, someone asked what was the best alternative browser for the S2. The consensus was stock due to the optimization.
[General Topics] majorpay:
I don't think most people buy their smartphone to browse - I could be wrong about that, but I'd much rather use a full size device to browse the internet. In a pinch, I might use it, but I like to keep it brief as it's not efficient on a limited viewing screen.

If it can be done through an app that's optimized for the device, I'd always choose that route if it is my phone. These days, the apps almost always make the phone. Seriously, why would I want a 7" device to view something intended for a 19+" monitor?

My Nook on the other hand? I use that almost religiously to browse, and yes, it's Android. While there's a little lag, I haven't noticed it to the point that it has made me want to stop using it to browse - as long as Flash runs flawless and the browser does everything I need it to without hindering my viewing experience, I really can't complain. Actually, I'm quite chuffed to be navigating the web on that device :D
[General Topics] mrrick:
They are phones for ****s sake people.. every last single one of them on the market at this very moment allow you to do what it is they are intended for, to make a phone call to another phone. Everything else is just bonus. Go measure each others dicks some where else on the web. So many people's time and energy has been wasted within this very thread due to one trolls need to stir up ****(the ONLY reason the OP made his original post). Those of you that have fallen prey to his mind numbingling pointless taunts and rants are no worse.

Sent @ 04:20
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bennachie:
It has been suggested that a different kernel will give a much needed improvement in call volume. Is this the case? and if so what do I do?

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
Some say that DSP manager can help.

It does for me.

Try that
[Desire HD General] huzi7868:
can anyone help me i need adb drivers thanks
[Desire HD General] Nieass:
There you go check the attached zip
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jojowill:
I have the infused rom on my device and the overclock.I was just wondering if there is any way to remedy the small glitch at the boot of the samsung logo.I remember having the same problem when I jail broke my iphone.sorry I am a newbie to this so any tips are helpful.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ZeroIsntTheHero:
Err... What's the glitch? Is the phone catching on fire?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] diablo009:
U mean ur phone is stuck and not getting past the logo screen?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jojowill:
No it's just a small flash in the screen when starting up the phone like noise on a tv.it's just for a second.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] hoofadoo:
It's the OC kernel. I've had the same thing when I used it. I dont think its harmful, but it is annoying if your a perfectionist :p
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jojowill:
It really is...how exactly do you revert to the stock kernel? If you can't is there a download for it? I wonder if there is a fix for that glitch?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] turbodolphin:
mine does the same thing., i noticed though after flashing back to stock it would still happen from time to time. I'm trying really hard to remember if it ever did that before i started changing things on the phone (which was day 1 hahah)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jojowill:
It never did that before I started flashing things.I just don't know if it's my kernel our rom but I'm leaning towards kernel now
[Samsung Infuse 4G] hoofadoo:
Infused rom uses V7 of the Community Kernel which you can find in the Dev Forum.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jojowill:
Should I maybe try to reflash the kernel?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] hoofadoo:
If you dont want that glitchy flash of pixels on boot, then use another kernel other than the OC kernel here.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jojowill:
Is defuse probably the best alternative?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bignate78:
Defuse is a great kernel especially for battery

Big dog Infuse I997 running Infused 1.5, Defused 1.4
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradbusa:
I had this happen to me one time when I was on 1.5.1, or 1.5.. I don't remember. I had problems with it, so I flashed back to Gtg's kernel. I'm also running infused rom. Hi recently went back to the latest OC kernel. It's posted in one of the more recent pages. It's basically 1.5.1 before speedmod was added. I no longer notice the tv snow, but like I said it only happened once. Since then I've been looking for it.
[HTC Sensation] gavin-phelan:
my htc wont get a good long lasting connecting. it keeps loosing signal but only on gsm/2g network .. vodafone said its because some htc phones dont work well with 2G is this true or is the a solution thanks

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[Thunderbolt General] muckymuck:
Hey, everyone. How's it going? I have been running Gingervitis 1.1 (?) and last night I went to uninstall an app that I had installed from the market. My phone froze up and is worthless at the moment. I can boot up, but I cant do anything. I see my wallpaper and the taskbar (even it is a little off), but that is it. If I hold power and volume down while booting it goes to the menu, but it automatically chooses to update the radio. I can't choose to do anything else. Wtf? Can I fix this?

Also, the phone will ring, but I can't do anything about that either.

I appreciate any help.
[Thunderbolt General] blueis300:
Hmm not sure I can be much help but you could try and get into recovery from there, rename a file say maybe a Rom to PG05IMG so when in hboot it tries to load it? hey just trying to help here and not sure it gonna work but could try a couple more ideas until someone smarter pops in. Sure your not bricked though.