yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aMoshe:
ok, but what else?

do i need to wipe cache partition and dalvik cache like when i reflash the kernel?
[Off-topic] 1234568:
Hey all,

I am putting a HTPC together that will primarily be used with XBMC, but also be used to browse the internet and download films via lovefilm.com. Here is what I am considering...

AMD Llano A8-3800

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-a8-3800.html

Gigabyte Motherboard - AMD A75, Socket FM1, DDR3 (GA-A75M-UD2H)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-358-GI&groupid=701&catid=1903&subcat=2058

Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-298-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-368-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1953

OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w Silent

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-OC&tool=3

Lian Li Case (PC-C37B)

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1194.html

For these simple tasks I am under the impression Llano will suffice. Should I be worried about the lack of a discrete GPU?

Also this will cost about £500 which is kind of pricey for a HTPC. Has anyone got any suggestions to reduce the price of the build?

Thanks for any feedback?
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
PSU and RAM is a bit overkill for a HTPC. Also, run LINUX if you wanna keep it low-powered. From what I hear, Llano has a great GPU but sucky CPU. It should suffice as a HTPC processor. I'd go for a lower end PSU and about 1GB RAM if Linux, 2GB if Windows.
[Off-topic] 1234568:
Thanks for the good advice about the PSU and RAM.

I have heard that the LLano CPU is a little weak on other sites too. I was considering instead an Athlon II with dedicated graphics. It will cost a similar amount as this system.

I can even get the AsRock vision 3D for the same price...

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/Vision3D/index.asp?c=Main

There are just too many options... :confused:
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
3D is overrated. I'm assuming that you:

1. Have a 3D HDTV.

2. Have the 3D glasses

3. Have a desire for headaches.

Also, a lot will depend on usage pattern/behaviour. If you are only using it for some browsing (assuming social networks, youtubes, reading forums like XDA, some degree of flash playing), the Llano should be more than sufficient. It will also serve well in a light gaming mode (we're talking COD:MW2 probably). And if you're running Linux, I'd say that bumping to 2GB will make it a behemoth when it comes to webapps.

That said and done, what I suggested (Linux build and bumping it to 2GB) will be more than sufficient for watching movies and some light browsing with webapps. The Llano is not good as a CPU, but it is a real kicker when it comes to making a no fuss dedicated system (although it sucks when it comes to making a good gaming PC). I believe that many sites actually view it as a high potential processor for HTPCs. Just remember to properly cool your rig (silent cooling FTW) when building your HTPC (my brother's sucked because he used a 9800GT).

So... building your own (if you have the expertise or can seduce/befriend someone with the expertise) will definitely yield savings, benefits and earn an essential geek badge.
[Off-topic] 1234568:
Linux is out the question as my Dad (who will be using the HTPC) has used Windows all his life and will not learn another OS.

I get your point about the 3D and I have no intentions of using it for now... but it will be there for the future ;)

I believe that both a LLano based system and the ASRock Vision 3D will fit the needs of a HTPC. As they cost a similar price and I am comfortable building my own system I have both options open to me.

I guess what it comes down to is which system is better... Llano with A75 chipset or i3 with HM55 chipset? Any opinions???
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
Llano.

It has similar processing powers to an i3, but trumps even an i7 when it comes to GPU power. As for 3D, when the glassless 3DTVs come out, the specs will be different. I get most of my home movies off the internet, and from what I understand, a Blu-Ray disc has about 20+GB on average on it, so go figure.
[Off-topic] 1234568:
Thank you for the good advice. I am nearly ready to make my purchase. I have decided to go for a custom Llano based system pretty similar to the one outlined in the OP. I will follow the advice though to downgrade the PSU and ram. Just a few more questions pls...

I was hoping to avoid using a dedicated GPU but I just realised i'm not sure if the motherboard supports lossless bitstreaming. I have looked but couldnt find out. Here's the motherboard I have in mind...

http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM1/F1A75M/#specifications/#specifications

If this board doesn't support it I will probably get this GPU but I want to avoid it if possible...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-263-SP

Thanks again for the help so far!
[Off-topic] 1234568:
This situation just got a whole load more confusing :confused:

It turns out that the only way to get lossless bitstreaming with a Llano-based system is to use a dedicated GPU. This kind of defies the whole point of going down the Llano route as its integrated graphics was one of it's key benefits. Seeing as everyone says the CPU performance of Llano system is underwhelming I am seriously reconsidering the whole build.

Instead I could base the build around the H55 chipset as this does support lossless bitstreaming. I could then use the superior CPU performance of an i3, but would still require dedicated graphics to escape crappy Intel HD2000.

Bearing in mind that bitstreaming is an essential part of the build what would you do?

Edit: the H55 path really limits things like SATA 6gb/s and USB 3.0
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
Hmmm... I'll need to do a little homework first... I'll get back to you regarding the lossless streams
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
Seems to me that using an AMD Phenom/Athlon with a dedicated GPU will be slightly cheaper., although the whole rig will never fit in that casing...
[Off-topic] 1234568:
I have decided to rule out the Llano system due to the complications with lossless audio. This now leaves me with an i3 system or Athlon like you suggested.

For an Athlon system I saw these parts:

AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core 250 3.00GHz

Asus M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3 AMD 880G (Socket AM3)

These are cheaper than an i3 system for sure... as far as performance goes I am confident both the Athlon and i3 route is enough for a HTPC. I wonder about how their power consumption compares though?
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
AMD usually has a lower power profile than Intel, although if you underpowered your PC the processor will have to work REALLY hard to keep up... depends a lot.

Currently, an AMD-AMD setup for CPU and GPU combo is more efficient than an Intel-NVidia setup, although for the mid-range PCs, it might be different. A key component of power draw and power efficiency is actually your PSU. Most of the time, the PC will be on idle/low usage. Having an 80+ rated Gold or Platinum goes a loooooooong way towards saving power.

In terms of performance, the i3 does not have much benefit over AMD, because the good techs are limited to the i5s and i7s. AMD only differentiates the core count and superficial unlocks.

DISCLAIMER: A little late on this, but: I AM A HUGE AMD FAN. Not that I blow, but I really like AMD, and have been using AMD rigs for as long as I can remember.
[Off-topic] 1234568:
Well I think I have come to a decision... again. Almost every component is different now. Here's my new selection of components:

Intel Core i3-2100T 2.5Ghz

MSI H67MA-E35 Intel H67

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6670 1024MB

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

SilverStone Grandia GD04

OCZ StealthXStream2 400w Silent

I can get all of these for a round £500. Any last minute feedback from anyone before I buy it all would be much appreciated.
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
One thing that I didn't clarify with you. The service is movie streaming or downloading? Coz 1TB is mighty little for heavy downloading (trust me).

Although, from your setup, the parts look mighty fine to me. Just upgrade the CPU and GPU down the road and you'll have a mainstream gaming rig :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Piplos:
I would put the new Lock Ring (aka Ring Lockscreen) found on Sense 3.0 roms (like RCMix S) on my LeeDroid 3.0.8.2

I tried putting the 3.0 htclockscreen.apk over the 2.1 one, but rebooting will result in a bootloop.

Can you help me?
[Defy General] diamond_lover:
Hello, I bought some day ago a Team 16GB class 10 Micro SD card, but my Defy freeze, expecially when I browse it with quickpic.

I see some thread about class 10 cards and someone found that a partial fix is format with 32k or 64k as file allocation unit size, and maybe another fix is set higher voltage with setsvel.

I've tried the format fix, but I gain only speed, now I'll try the second to gain the needed stability.

I read also that it's an Android kernel related issue, so we still need an official fix.

Someone know some other method?

D_L

Edit: Also the voltage tweak have failed... It's frustrating...
[Defy General] Deonix:
There maybe something related to the manufacturer. For example in my country the cheepest MicroSDHC Cards are made by Adata and Serioux (there maybe other chinesse brands but these are present at known big IT stores).

So people bought them, especially Adata ( which should be better than Serioux).

Class 6/10... and they ended up not working.

So my advice is to try with a Knigston/Kingmax/Transcend/ Sandisk( not that cheap) same 16gb and same class, see if you see a difference.

And i think Class 6 is enough... if let's say Class 10 from the manufacturers above it too expensive.

Maybe it helps. :D
[Defy General] marhensa:
Transcend?? um.. i don't think so, it's just the same.

perviously i had Transced 8 GB class 6,

using my old galaxy android, it's so fine and speed is good.

but after went to Defy, it was horrible.

often to cause hangs!

have to unmount / remount, which often not succeed, and have to pull out battery.

and it's especially happen when taking picture with camera or downloading + listening to mp3.

many good moments missed, can't take picture, because have to pull out the battery,

and that's embarassing, in front of my friend.

they think i have a smartphone but often hangs,

and now i know it is just because highclass sdcard.

i am using class 2 sdcard now, never get hangs.

end of problem.
[Defy General] avers:
I had the same problem.

I bought a 16GB class 10 SDHC ab. a month ago and when I'd been using my Defy always been freezed when I opened the Gallery or any else card related application.

I deleted the partition on the card and created a new one without LBA mode and the problem had been solved temporary. After a week it was start to make freezes again.

Actually I'm using a 16GB class 2 one (I bought it for 15 pounds as used). There's no problems any more, and it works as the same speed as the class 10 one (by the SD Tools).
[Defy General] MrBelter:
I gave up and went back to a class 6 8GB Samsung, i did start a thread on the official Motorola forum if you want to go let them know about the problems, it might get them to issue a fix if more people start to complain about it. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/53050?tstart=30
[Defy General] salimbest83:
i tot only me..

same here..

wanna sell my DNA 16GB class 10.

phone hang quite easily after change to this
[Defy General] Deonix:
So i want to buy a 8 gb card class 4 or 6 tomorrow... and it must work would CM7 . What to get ? I understand that using Sd booster or CM7 default i should get the same speed acordingly to what i set ?
[Defy General] Ricardo_Is:
Hi Deonix.

My SD is a SanDisk 8GB class 4 and working well.

A couple days a go i try to use my other SD 16GB (class 10) and had issues, so i back to the 8GB class 4.

Some users have 16 and 32GB class 2 and 4 and they have no problems.
[Defy General] Deonix:
Thanks... i will choose a class 4 probably Kingmax. Anyone with working Class 6 8gb? what manufacturer?

Question: i will have on my 8 gb card a bunch of apps-30-40... some games including Asphalt 6 < for example>, MotoNav, and music. Out of this i think i will still have 2-3 Gb free . I don't need to transfer data from Card to PC frequently (fast i mean) maybe when it happens i will use the phone as a mass storage.

The question is: Do i need a class 6? I only need to work properly while in the phone and have a decent speed as a Mass storage from time to time.
[Defy General] marhensa:
definetely is not cm7 problem,

i thought it was.. and many people thought it too.

maybe it's froyo kernel seems little bit buggy with hiclass sdcard.

and cm7 using froyo kernel though.

using class 2 sdcard is perfect.

the speed is just the same though.

have been checked with some bencharking tools.
[Defy General] MrBelter:
Both me and the missus are using class 6 samsung cards this one to be precise http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-Speed-memory-Class/dp/B002WGIV10/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_44 and it works greatSD tools shows a write speed of around 10MB/s and a read speed of around 21MB/s
[Defy General] Garincha13:
actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..

any problem with froyo for class 10 ?

need more advice from u guys
[Defy General] marhensa:
many people confirm there's a problem with that,

even with 6 class sdcard.

i don't know what's going on but it's happening and annoying,

it happens on froyo, and CM7 too (FYI, CM7 Quarx uses froyo kernel).
[Defy General] MrBelter:
Thats what we are all saying, class 10 cards seem nothing but a problem regardless of size. This is why i went back to the class 6 samsung and posted a link to it cos i know it works.
[Defy General] Deonix:
Just bought a 8 gb Kingston class 4. Will report speed and any other issues as soon as i install CM7 with it.

Hope it works well. It's an Android Kernel issue from Froyo on the Class 6/10 crashes as i can understand.. nobody's fault ( here on XDA i mean). Still some work.

Also i remain strong on my position.

Choose your manufacturer wisely even if it costs 10-20$/i dunno how much more.
[Defy General] patmail:
I use kingmax 16gb class10 allways hang,

so bad,

use class 4	or 2 batter
[Defy General] MrBelter:
i nearly bought a 16GB Lexmark class 6 card today but i dare not in case it didnt work, this is a crap situation.
[Defy General] silfox2000:
Same here - Froyo 2.2.2 and Transend 16GB Class10 - freezes at random basis and random applications. No issues with 8GB Class 4.
[Defy General] Fabo.sk:
I have similar problem, how do I know the class of the card? It is I believe a Kingston, I've had it for ages.

Also if it is relevant to someone, I have a Defy from CEE distribution, with Froyo.
[Defy General] chanmo:
You can check if the class is printed on the card. Usually it is a number inside a letter "C" (like a full circle).

You can see the images here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_card#Speed_Class_Rating
[Defy General] airwolf1544:
Is there any way to limit those Class 6-10 Cards to a lower speed?
[Defy General] Ztiffn:
i use a "silicon power" class6 8gb card without problems.
[Defy General] russtyd:
Hi, I have a 32gb Lexar class 10 card which works fine on my Defy running CM7 (latest nightly builds) so its not all class 10s.
[Defy General] kenkoo611:
I think SanDisk is the most compatible brand. Am I right?!
[Defy General] nameite:
Yo, I also have the Team c16g class10 microsd, when I first installed CM7 v1 it also didnt recognize and was quite frustrating.

I moved the card slightly and it worked for a little while, seems like a loose connection.

Then i just wiped dev cache and cache, wiped the card and the connection pieces on the phone with some alcohol, and now there isnt a problem/

Peace~
[Defy General] chanmo:
I bought a TDK Class-10 8GB card but the phone became a bit unstable :(

Now I'm using a SanDisk Class-4 8GB and everything is fine. Not sure if it's because of SanDisk or Class-4.
[Defy General] silfox2000:
I downgraded from 2.2.2 to 2.1 and the freezes with my Transcend 16GB class 10 dissapeared. Everything works fine. So it seems it is a software problem.
[Defy General] Titankahn:
well it seems only 2 and 4 classes working on 2.2.2+ the others are very risky most of tham fails.
[Defy General] desihu:
I too am using 8gb class 4 from Sandisk. No issues till date... could not take chances with a class 10 series.
[HTC Sensation] BodraHTC.Sensation:
I DL-ed some gameloft games like NFS 5, assassians creed and others, and cant play in full screen, any help?
[HTC Sensation] snowblindd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DV9ErOOU9w

...try ,,spareparts,, or wait till gameloft releases qhd resolution games
[HTC Sensation] BodraHTC.Sensation:
Will give a try!

Tnx
[HTC Sensation] bonebeatz1234:
If you bought them from gameloft they fit the screen i have all the games for the sensation and they fill the screen up. If you got other copies from somewhere else that's your problem cause they make there games for specific devices only. I tried installing my games from my vibrant to my sensation some games played but the ones i really like didn't.
[HTC Sensation] BodraHTC.Sensation:
Ye, i dl-ed cracked games and installed. .......So that the catch.
[HTC Sensation] shokouhi:
Please do not talk of Piracy in the forum. With all do respect it is things like this that give the Dev community a bad name overall. Please keep that in mind when posting!

Shokouhi
[HTC Sensation] Shagman68:
Thats a nogo ghost rider, some of my PAID games still do not go full screen.
[HTC Sensation] snowblindd:
That is because gameloft does not support qhd resolution on all their games. Your best bet will be to wait till they update those games for the Sensation. Meanwhile you can try the Desire HD versions, as some report they work full screen, but as i stated on another thread, you can only get them from warez sites, so i highly suggest you don.t :D. There are a few games already updated for the sensation (Asphalt 6, Modern Combat 2 and i belive NOVA 2 plus others, check on the forum)

Spareparts can be used on some apps, not sure on which though...

Cheers!
[HTC Sensation] E_Waqad:
Many games which i got from my previous desire HD are working fine, but, some are not working !!!

as well, by best program iGO is not running in full screen too :confused:

I tried spare parts, without any result !!!

shall we wait for all of them to release Sensation-comparable editions !!!

i believe there is a hidden solution which we have to find, since we were editing the screen parameters for windows mobiles when facing such issues, but now, with Linux, someone has to find out how it can be done.
[HTC Sensation] n1ghtl1fe:
every game ive thrown at my sensation works fine. SpareParts, open it up disable/re-enable compatibility mode then restart the phone. Worked like a charm
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] fugazzastefano:
Hi at all, i have a question:

Is possible to have an apk (or similar) with Flyer print driver based for all device (example - HTC Incredible S)?

I'v seen in the videoreview the ability to print via wifi and i think is a great function!!!

Thanks!:cool:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ovigt71:
have a look here
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] fugazzastefano:
Ops sorry...

i explain, if is possible, extract print driver/app from the rom Flyer and install into Incredible S.!

Thanks
[HD2 General] vladkorotnev:
Hello everyone,

As far as I see, HD2 can run five different OSes: WM6.5, WP7, Android, Ubuntu and MeeGo.

Is it possible (under certain circumstances such as a huge SD card is required) to boot all these OSes on one device (just like my Macbook boots OSX 10.6, 10.7, Ubuntu and Windows)?

If it is, I'm definitely buying HD2 instead of iPhone 4.

Thanks,

~ Vladislav Korotnev
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
no, cos winmo and wp7 will only run from the nand, and you can only have one of them on nand at a time. Best option in my limited view would be forget wp7, put winmo on nand, and android, ubuntu and meego on sd card.

Four out of five aint bad.
[HD2 General] vladkorotnev:
Thanks for a fast reply.

That would be nice! But if I install WP7, I can get WM back on NAND anytime, right? Cool!
[HD2 General] deividaaas:
Yes, you can.
[HD2 General] aks777:
i wont personally like 5 os

thats too much
[HD2 General] vladkorotnev:
Hello again,

Sorry to bump this old thread, but i don't wanna clutter the forum with a lot of similar threads by the same author.

I've reviewed all the Android firmwares for HD2 i could find and decided to use Android from NAND.

Will i be able to boot ubuntu from an SD card via a bootloader from Android, not WinMo?

Also, could anyone please point me to a basic installation instruction for Android on HD2 in NAND?

Sorry to bother you.

Thanks
[HD2 General] Robbie P:
Glad to see you bought your HD2!

You can boot ubuntu from nand android using

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1025499

Or debian from nand android

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1029390

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1095726

But to get USB host to work we have to wait for further developments.

Unfortunately Meego is not yet available on HD2 as stated in your first post.

However, TOP people are on the case, and things can change overnight.

ACA have a brand new nand android (other products are available!), check install instructions of your chosen build.
[HD2 General] vladkorotnev:
My HSPL is 3.03 :(

Is it possible to have NANDroid on my HD2 or I am stuck with HaRET?
[HD2 General] tobiascrystal:
I have been watching the meego forum, did I miss something? Is it working now?
[HD2 General] JesusFreak316:
Not with that HSPL; flash HSPL3 and you should have 2.08 which should work perfectly. You flashed HSPL4 which is only better for certain Winmo roms. Use this.
[HD2 General] orangekid:
HSPL4 is fine for him, it's just a newer version that can flash any SPL including 3.03, so he doesn't need HSPL3, he can use HSPL4 to flash 2.08
[HD2 General] JesusFreak316:
Ah, thanks. Either way, he needs to switch to 2.08; on that we're agreed. ;) I actually just flashed hspl for the first time Friday, lol. My previous phone had it already on it but the replacement I got then didn't.
[HD2 General] tleaf100:
Actualy i think you can boot all 5, but you have to be very careful how you partition the sd card.

Am looking for SIMPLE boot chooser that can run in winmo 6.5 or as boot loader that can handle them all

the only good apple is in a pie !!!!
[HD2 General] rauschkugl:
There is none that can load winmo or wp7 from sd so it is not possible. And meego isn't even released until now.
[HD2 General] vladkorotnev:
Hello,

Thanks for helping.

I think I'll never use Windows on it, so I installed HSPL2.08, MAGLDR, Clockwork and Cyanogenmod Typhoon.

I can't run ubuntu with it, so I'll wait for Ubuntu-HD2 v0.4 that will have MAGLDR SD support :P

Thanks
[HD2 General] Gagins:
Cool it will be nice!
[HD2 General] rauschkugl:
there are other ways to run unix from within android. you can try the hd2 toolbox app or start a vnc server from android and connect with a client to it. just try searching the forums and you will find something.
[HD2 General] vladkorotnev:
Oh, that's exactly what i need!

But the 2,5 GB linux.img that is included doesn't fit on my SD.

Could someone please provide a resized image? about 1Gb would be nice :P
[HD2 General] rauschkugl:
sorry i can't help with that but maybe you should think about buyying a new sd-card if you haven't space for the image ^^ they are't that expensive.
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] maximus7maximus:
Try my version of the program ActionScreen,Replaced only graphics, the program of our Gabbana
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] maximus7maximus:
New ActionScreen
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] redeye998:
How do i get the actionscreen? :/
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] maximus7maximus:
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/create-your-own-action-screen/
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] maximus7maximus:
ActionScreen with a new icon packs
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] n1ce、one:
Thanks~