yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] benjaminries:
I'm not sure I understand all of the flame war above, because some of it is in rather broken English (which is fine - it isn't like I speak other languages very well). However, what I think many of us (including myself) take greatest exception to is the notion DFT has anything approaching intellectual property rights.

The intellectual property, if anything, is owned by companies like HD2. When we decide to mod or hack their stuff, there's an implicit acceptance of the fact that we've crossed into a grey market where one developer can't really control what another developer does. Normally on places like XDA-developers this totally goes without saying; giving credit to ROM chefs and devs when publishing derivative works is more of a gentlemanly courtesy that has consequences only in terms of reputation.

DFT have made extraordinary contributions, and we all accept that they'll do whatever they want. But we retain the freedom to express our considered opinions about any developer's work or style. The notion that DFT can embargo releases, prohibit the posting of links, silence criticism and make personal threats against others is what we find to be, frankly, preposterous. They clearly do not extend the same "respect" to Microsoft or HTC.

I suggest that DFT, while making valuable contributions, aren't the only game in town. Yuki, Da_G and the XDA braintrust are more or less responsible for porting the NoDo updates, and may well bring us to Mango beta 2 before DFT does. Sure, everybody is borrowing heavily from everybody else - that's how open hacking/developing works.

Some users here - those of us who, quite frankly, have no chance of actually porting a WP7 ROM anytime soon - have assumed a very self-righteous, prostrating attitude that treats DFT like avenging gods. If DFT is motivated only by praise and would actually stop developing in the face of any criticism, I suggest that they would be too fickle to rely on in this manner. I suspect instead that they will keep developing because they want to get there first. And if they don't, somebody else will.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] dAV84:
any chance one of us compare SD DRIVER whit different version of WP7?

A line command

or write in registre to format sdcard with no security cert?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] arifqur:
Put in a very succinct and precise manner. Exactly my sentiments
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Lacabrinator:
+1, best post in thread.

Much as I love the work DFT have done - and I do, I'm super grateful - the moral standing of a group who work to bring another company's unfinished OS update to an unsupported platform way ahead of its planned release is arguably pretty dubious. It just becomes hilarious when they think they can assert any kind of ownership over it as well, beyond general recognition.

Some of this thread reads like we're watching pirate release groups argue over who stole whose stolen game.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] youmeus:
@ benjaminries

well said my friend...puts everything into perceptive.

Of course for those who don't get what you said...let the flaming continue. But for those of use who do, let's start back playing nicely :) Life is to short to spend time stressing over silliness.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zcdg:
This 7592 is very good - has some useful features. But lack of sideloading and marketplace make it impossible to use at all. Same major bugs here - drivers not changed.

Looks like battery saver doesn't work properly - may be drivers again.

Who will be the next AnDim to develop new tool to work with such a big ROM to make this or next Mango perfect?

It is impossibly to work/modify comfortably with this ROM now(allmost impossibly at all).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Lacabrinator:
I'm using it and loving it tbh. Eventually not having the marketplace will get to be too annoying and I'll flash something else, but for now I'm okay with it just to use this awesome OS.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] xdmcdmc:
@benjaminries

I totally agree with you. I also believe that having that policy, DFT actually slow the progress we could actually see if they were open. Nobody has the rights to ask to not hack their work when they hack somebody else (MS, HTC work). And this is called good sense. I appreciate very much the work DFT and Cotulla has done for the community but I believe this policy it's just hurting them big time.

I want to point out that the reason why they didn't released the code for MAGLDR is probably because they are using code that belongs to HTC or somebody in DFT works there and used the knowledge it acquired there to create the loader. If that code would be released most sure that person would be fired. But from this to not allowing anybody to hack/modify/tweak their releases I think it's a very big step and not a good one.

So DFT if you read all past posts maybe you will figure out that you will help a lot more the community and maybe even DFT will make the progress a lot faster if you will share the work with others and let others help you as well (others = community).

Thanks and have peace.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] ^^rac:
Please PM me the link?

I cant find it either? I want to try this on my secondary HD2?

Anyone?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] WaveMaster1406:
Need this link too! please!!! :(

Can't get it when i google! If someone can PM me the link will be a great pleasure for me!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Zenk_77:
@ Sir Mwang,

Please publish DFT Mango with unlocked Marketplace.

Is for you a piece of cake;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] bigx86:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dont diss DFT because if they stop develop for the HD2 then we are screwed!!!!!!BULL ****!!!!!!!!!!!

YES BULLSHIIIIIIIIIIT. DFT did not make XDA. DFT did not even start the porting of WP7 to HD2. DFT is getting credits for being first with many things is BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID NOW with this Mango thread. How about DFT fixes the charging issue in MAGLDR first?

And for all "moral" police out there: If i or someone else want to critisize DFT then we will do. They are no Gods and they are not the only developers around here who can make things work. This is a community and if DFT wants to help out then be it, if they dont want then its their problem. Do u think if DFT drops the banner no one else will step up and grab it?

And stop moralizing and say its "DFTs work". As far as im concerned Microsoft owns WP7 and not DFT and maybe DFT should start respect the real developers of Wp7 at Redmond AND STOP RELEASE THEIR WORK BEFORE THEY ARE FINISHED WITH IT. AFTER THAT THEY CAN COME HERE AT ASK US TO RESPECT THEIR WORK.

And to the chinese guy who threatened Yuki. I asked a couple of chinese about you and no one knew who you was.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
rom is officially out now in darkriot's thread.

@mods: lock and delete this whole thread please. thanks

@all: please show some respect and at least try to be polite.... action's speak louder than words....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] noellenchris:
As per OP's request, thread is locked.

noellenchris

XDA Forum Mod
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Flashed the rom, Boot is ULTRA FAST, its smoother than before, multitouch fixed, the search button rumour is true in app list. will test camera and battery now.

UPLOADING pics to my flickr
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Noh ! Camera is still not fixed, green tint. there is no more soft button to take pics, only hardware button which is call as for all DFT releases.

To power off, you have to slide the screen down after long press of power. like u pull up lockscreeen to unlock.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
multitouch fixed? no jumpback?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Not sure, i dint face any multitouch issues in Nodo either. tried the lockscreen bug as stated by many but never got it, all works fine except the camera and live services for now.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] lukmakachi:
You make me crazy Rick_1995.

I can't wait any longer...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Btw guys, im already uploading pics of all the installtion pics, check them @ below link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64718846@N03/

Power off in Mango :o

*edit* sorry for the **** cam :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] bearthang:
I'm so exited to hear that!!!

Too bad that i'm not DFT member.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
better try pes2011 demo to confirm that it's fixed. best way to check... ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] walidhazem:
So basically we r waiting for DFT to approve of it as official so we can get the download link.....right???
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] gsm83:
For test multitouch: Try to use two finger (ie in pinch to zoom) not simultaneously and check if it works...

Thanks!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Exactly, as some DFT members and a few more like me and HD2owner are already in possession of the files but wish to obey the rules set by the creator, DFT/cotulla. Hats off to em.

Green Mango installer, same method, same MAGLDR.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
So Rick, live services dont work at all? Not even when inputting the 25 digit code from MS Hotline?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
It doesn't even ask for teh code, LOL. I already have an activation code which ive used on both the DFT release and the Nodo previously. It just gives some wierd error with a hex number as error id.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
That's a huge dealbreaker :/.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
not exactly.. i want to have a "official" dft thread on xda..

if they decide to change something for final public release, we can hold back the beta and release final here.

basically it's in private testing for priviledged dft forum members currently.

i have no acces via forum on rom too for now but rick shared the link with me.

this way i can prepare a fast ftp release in case it will be declared "public/final" by dft.

if dft want's to create their own thread it's up to them (they haven't for initial wp7 rom).

please set system time manually and try again to really confirm that there is a problem.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] eXtremeLT:
i have a q: is it jailbreaked/rooted rom? can .xap files be installed through a pc? thanx
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
THANKS, IT WORKED !!! it signed in my live id, im on market place now.

P.S: i used the same code which i got for a preNodo build from Micro$hit.

*EDIT*- All live services working except marketplace, when i click on install for any app it says

Marketplace Error

We're Sorry, but we can't complete your

request and aren't sure why.

Close and reopen Marketplace. If the

problem continues, restart your phone and

try again.

Error Code: 80320011

<Close button here>
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
MY god, i wish it didn't work, now i'm excited again!!!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Rick, after having activated the 25er code once, have you rebooted the phone? I had to do this on NODO, too.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
you have the rom downloading link and you didn't try to flash it? pffffff

we are not

http://rlv.zcache.com/donkey_kiss_photosculpture-p1535472553190925823s98_400.jpg

:D

you are using WP7 and you say Micro$hit?

if you want there'are a lot of android roms in HD2 Android threads :p
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
actually i'm still downloading from dft... slow....... :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] huismeester:
Is it possible get a member of the DFT forum?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
it's not enough to just sign up and log in.

you also have to earn the priviledge to download by doing posts (20 in this case afaik).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
i think you have to register in his forum.. and own 20 points if you want the rom.. don't know how you have to do to earn 20 points, maybe you have to post, in a chinish forum, yeah, do you know chinish lenguage? :p

i hope dft releases the rom at public, or, fu*k him, i'll wait yuki :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Rick, second idea about marketplace:

Does Zune show this as "LEO71"? If so, if you can, install Regedit and change the device Name / ID to "Schubert", etc.

Same had to be done on first DFT release to install applications from Marketplace!

Rick, in fact, from looking at "About" screenshots indeed the device name is "LEO70", it needs to be changed to install from marketplace! I really hope regedit works...otherwise we have to wait for someone to "rerelase" the rom with the proper device name/id.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] huismeester:
Oke Sir i understand thanks for your replay
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Yeah will try that, g2g for now, lovin mango.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
if that's the case, i could change this before releasing it (when public by dft).

would you appreciate this?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Yes, HD2owner, i think it would make life easier for a lot of us, especially if sideloading / tomxap doesn't work on Mango (I don't know if it does).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
you can change the name of phone when you connect it the first time on zune
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
I am not sure this is enough. It needs to be changed in Registry + also the Hardware ID needs to be set to "T9191" or w/e the HD7/Schubert uses. I think the name change on Zune is only for Zune.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
actually it's not only the phone name that's causing problems if it's the case.

oemdevicename value also has to be adjusted.

i could also change color to default (blue) for example.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
LOL, please tell me you're joking :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
lol...Rick, does tomxap work? Can you get a registry editor on the green mango build?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
yep sure.. :D

no, try, the name of phone doesen't change in setting tab, but you'll sync zune with the new name, so, i'd prefere HTC HD7 t9292, and last yuki rom has HTC Shubert, i change it by zune in HTC HD T9292 and now i can sync with the folder HTC HD7 T9292 saved in my pc :D

the name of phone in setting tab is irrilevant for me, simply i don't want to change folder name every new rom :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Uh, sorry mate. im outside home and the IE on this Build is ULTRA AWESOME. the address bar is now at bottom, many more settings, like user agent string for true desktop view..

Maybe IE10 is included as rumoured in Mango :D

@HD2O, i started upload before leaving home :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
MY god, you guys are teasers! I got an exam on Tuesday, now i can't sleep lol.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
is ie9 smoother and has a faster rendering than ie7 (nodo ie)?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] beston94:
i am...patient...

I've been told that im a really patient guy... but this release somehow changed that... Thinking of learning mandarin maybe then i could get the mango release link faster :P
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
change the exam material in mango features exposition :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] AaronPusteButz:
It would have been better, if HD2Owner haven't posted this thread while Mango isn't available for us. Because there are a lot of impatient people like me on this forum :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
i think it's best to let all people know what's up right now (for non dft forum members).

it's also reasonable to make the rom running live services before making it accessible for public on xda...

doesn't take much time to modify this and anyone would enjoy working live services..... :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] ceesheim:
you can only do that by recooking the rom and mod the .hv files

on mango homebrew don't work , so no regedit :(
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
Nah, even then you have to get the Password to extract those archives which is only provided to certain dft members. (Like me :p)

*Edit*- multiupload links will be up in next 6 hours, with a copy provided on highspeed FTP. though the password will only be released on Monday as planned/expected/wished by the DFT.

*Edit2*- finally back home, multiupload says 5 more hours, following are the pics taken by my EUHD2 with Green Mango

Live SkyDrive
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
please don't release links and mirrors yet (even if they are password protected).

it would be best to hold this raw version back and modify if from start to get live services working.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
As you wish.

My current experience with green mango - Multitasking is like iOS. (not true multitasking, apps get paused in bg and only system apps can work in bg.)

Speed - I just can't believe what i have in front of me here. It's just so DAMN SMOKING FAST.

Looks - As usual Metro UI with few tweaks here and there.

Live Services work, but are locked and some are unavailable.

Overall, its a pretty nice upgrade. Although the real deal breaker - MAC address is still not static/fixed and changes after every reboot. (I believe this is a WP7 issue and not that of Drivers from DFT)

A release will be coordinated asap when the rom is ready for xda and finally YOU.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] beston94:
Well then i will hire the best hacker in the world to find that password..!!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] eXtremeLT:
u can use special program for that, but need good processor, if no1 will release pass and file will be on net i'll run that program on my 2630qm for night, mb i'll find out the pasw.

the best way is actually to run on a good server machine - it can hack much faster :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] OMEGA_du:
nope,xap files can't be installed through a pc
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] eXtremeLT:
and currently there's no way to hack mango? :S

edited:

some1 please test touchscreen driver, still multitouch bugged?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] elfinlazz:
anybody know how to fix the Device name from rom file ?

like LEO70 to HD7 T9292...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
hack? :confused:

wait 3 days
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
you have to edit registry hive (default.hv) and re-cook the rom.

don't worry, i will do this for you all before public release.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mido.fayad:
I tested this awesome rom and it works smooth and fast

And I love the new multitasking :)

Also the new ie9 is amazing and u can see bar in landscape and portrait mode and it has alot of settings

But the multitouch problem is still there and green tint

Thanks DFT ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] beston94:
well name the software because i have a AMD Opteron 6168 1.90GHz 12 Core Processor (Socket G34) :]

ps: Yep you see right it has 12 cores :P around 22.8 gigahertz of RAW POWER!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] eXtremeLT:
Gigahertz don't multiply on the core amount, all cores work on same mhz, so if i have 2core 2,2ghz = not 4,4ghz total, they both are 2,2ghz )) i'm going off right now, i'll be on in ~4h, i'll pm u if u'll still be on
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] eXtremeLT:
.... 1core 2,2ghz for example do bench of 3k, 2cores at same 2,2ghz can do up to 6k good optimized for app that supports 2cores, that's why there are multi cores >< roflmao :D go youtube and search for gigahertz records and u'll see that cpus like phenom x4 don't do 20ghz with 4cores..... :DDD
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] beston94:
extacly when i run crysis 2 theres a setting which i have to actiativate incase i want to use 4 cores or 6 cores for me its better that way :P
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] FD10:
Will tethering be available in this rom?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] elfinlazz:
can't extract default.hv & user.hv & many other files from the rom file...

i think they change something inside of image file...:(
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] DV1510:
btw what is the difference between version 7592 and 7661 . yukixda mention in his thread that version 7592 was available since march .
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] w3x:
live code

I have misplaced my code which i now use on my pre nodo hd2. Is there a way of finding it or obtaining another code?

w3x
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
Hi HD2Owner,

Tell me this version dated from March with same bugs as first version is a good joke.

Tell me they will release a 7661 version.

:)

regards
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] letrain02:
installing leo71 now, i found it, and pw. its just atleast fun to see it. just like when android didn't get 3g without some finagiling, and had bugs, or ubuntu didn't work right, its still awesome when someone asks what phone you have, and you say hd2, and they ask "is that android?" and you laugh and name off whatever it is you want, and possibly multiboot to show off, and they don't care. but its still awesome
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] and2:
is the password in the txt-file? it´s all mandarin:confused:

edit: ok, found it...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] letrain02:
ok once again microsoft has disappointed. NO FLASH SUPPORT?!!!?!!! AGAIN!!! WTF? THATS MY ONLY ***** WITH WP7. thought mango might fix that... lame.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] DV1510:
i thought that they want support only html5 with the update.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] letrain02:
maybe this update a bunch of us found isn't the real one, there is not html5 either..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] DV1510:
as yuki mentioned before. if it is the 7592 update and not the 7661 it must be a update with many bugs. so i wouldn't flash this rom on my beloved hd2. :-)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
If you manage to fix the registry could you upload the part of the rom that changed so the people who already have the rom can use the marketplace? :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] letrain02:
html5video.org brings up the page, but won't play the video.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
I agree with HD2Owner: The rom is not useful for daily use without a) either homebrew support, which it doesn't have or b) Access to marketplace, which it does not have because DFT, for some reason i don't understand, decided to name the device LEO70 with its own hardware ID :(.

Then someone here posted the registry file cannot be edited as usual - that does not sound good :(. I really hope there is a way to resolve these issues. Otherwise, it's just that - a preview of Mango features, with no other apps available for install.

@Yuki: You brought us Nodo to HD2 and some more. Is Mango beta2 (from the official dev beta roms that are leaked to the general public by now) more difficult to implement than was the case with NODO back then?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
Yes it's a good joke or just a way to occupy other developpers from xda.cn (or other) and achieve the first world release :D (of 7661?)

soooo childish, I like it :)

Test it if you want but don't pass your time to reconfigure all, you'll have to reflash it soon.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] hyellow:
how soon? :p
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] shu8i:
Anyone tried this: http://m.pocketnow.com/windows-phone/weve-updated-to-windows-phone-mango-so-can-you

?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
This is for official WP7 devices, we have HD2.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
This has been posted before. Its simply a way around being dev unlocked which we already are. It still requires updating via zune.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] iba21:
noooo.. ahaha.. ok it's the beta1

i read in a blog that it's the beta2, but it was a wrong information :p

really, childish actions.. maybe they are scarred by microsoft, if they release mango after microsoft, they can be denunciable
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
I kept it for a few hours, kinda sucks without apps :p