yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II Accessories] zeitgeb3r:
Here's my criteria for choosing a protective case :

1) A case that would allow me to dock the phone (on a Samsung desktop dock) without removing it from the case

2) and a case with a hole on the bottom to allow me to charge it, without having to open the case.

So far, I have found none.

Lemme know if you find one.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] jonny68:
The spelling on that eBay page is dreadful, Black is spelt "blcak" :eek:
[Galaxy S II Accessories] epicfailguy2:
I believe with the zenis dock you can dock the phone with any regular case (the no flip one or any silicon one for example would work with this dock)

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SAMSUNG-GAL...t=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item8264bd36f0

It's the only dock I know so far that has a removable part to allow case + phone docking.

As for the charging hole thing on flip cases, well, cut it out yourself :cool:
[Galaxy S II Accessories] R3Y:
^^Can they sync too?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I have a HTc Arrive that I flashed the Mango Beta on. That went fine. However, I'm trying to return it back to Nodo. I used this method update to Mango: http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/get_the_mango_update_now._without_being_a_developer.-06-30-11

I have a backup in the Premangostate folder that's saved on C drive. But Zune doesn't recognize it or at least Zune doesn't display anything about an update...

The instrictions also state that if I want to manually restore the phone back to update do this:

Copy your backup in C:\PreMangoState to %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

However..I cant find "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update"

Can somebody help me please
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScottSUmmers:
Make sure you have "show hidden files and folders" enabled in your file view options so you can find the \AppData\...

"%userprofile% is your username.

I'm assuming that the "Premangostate" folder contains the GUID associated with your phone so you would copy whatever is in "PreMangoState" to %userprofile%\AppData\...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I'll try that..

I know "%userprofile%" is my username..lol..thanks though
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I see the Application Data Folder..but I'm getting the message access denied. And I am the System Administrator
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prjkthack:
Isn't there a restore.bat file that came from the same place where the intial files came from? That article you linked has it. Don't you just, hit that, and it'll restore?

If that a fails, next question would be what version of Windows are you running? Because these files are stored in different places depending on what version of Windows you are on. Those directions look like they were designed for people on Windows 7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Yeah...it is a restore file....I ran that it did a bunch of commands and that was it. It didn't do anything after that.

I was able to get into the file I mentioned in my previous also. I placed the PreMangoState file into the : \AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

Went into Zune like it stated, clicked update and the only message I get is your device is up to date.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
make sure Zune is closed. open task manager and ensure all instances of Zune are gone (if you have multi user - log off the other party).

if that doesn't help, right click on the folder. click on security tab, in group or user names click on your profile name and edit. make sure full control is checked, click OK.

if that doesn't help

right click on the folder, click on the security tab, click on advanced, click on Owner, edit and add your User profile name to it and make sure Administrators are listed as well. click OK, OK.

edit: ugh, one minute too late....

your Zune will tell you that it's up to date, but there should be a restore button at the bottom with the date of the premango listed. you need to click restore....

if you were able to copy the contents of the premango folder over make sure it's not nested in the one that's in there. If it's not, check the size of the premango folder and report here. some people reported a size of 4kb, which apparently doesn't contain a true restore point. The folder should contain a bunch of numbers/letters. in that folder are two folders Properties and RestorePoint. You need to copy both of these into the folder with the same numbers/letters under your user/appdata ....Windows Phone Update folder
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I ran the restore.bat script again and this time It looked like it was going to work then it said no backup found....

but when I check my C drive I do have a PremangoState file there...what the hell...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prjkthack:
after you have copy and pasted everything, you should have a couple of folders inside the directory:

In: \AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

\j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324\

\j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324\Properties\

\j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324\Properties\properties.xml

\j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324\RestorePoint\

\j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324\RestorePoint\[another folder with random characters]

\j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324\RestorePoint\[another folder with random characters]\Data

The j4nf3de3 - malp38d3 -mdkaa532 - eidg5324 will not be named the same for you, as that is a unique ID for your device, so it should be in a similar format.

But anyway, you should have those additional directories in the Windows Phone Update folder. Then close Zune (if its open), and open it again, and hopefully that works for you.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
The file I copied from the PreMangoState fFolder and placed into my Windows Phone Update is labeled:

d26046bb - 94fa8529 - 2df72a60 - 5f45d48f

I click that I then have 2 sub folders labeled:

Properties

Restore pont

In the properties Folder there is just a Propertiesxml file

In the Restorepoint folder there's sub folder labeled:

1A5C280B-6CCF-4E62-8F3C-AAD8A680B0D1

Then another sub folder labeled:

Data

Then Data files that goes from data.0.dat all the way to data.149.dat followed by a Manifest.xml file
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
see my post above....You have all the info that you need. If Zune doesn't show a restore option once you copied the folder over, it may be 0 size files? What's the size of the premango folder? It will tell you that it's up to date no matter what, but you should see a restore option at the bottom. anyways, good luck.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
The file I listed above: d26046bb - 94fa8529 - 2df72a60 - 5f45d48f is only 550mb. So I'm sure that that's not my backup. However, there's another file also.

This one is labeled: 96bb2c9b - ef06a0d8 - ed24056b - 3db8f227 and is 4.22GB.

Now when I run the restore.bat script, in the command window I get the question:

Overright C:Premangostate\96bb2c9b - ef06a0d8 - ed24056b - 3db8f227\Properties\Properties.xml (Yes/No/)

Which one do I pick?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahlMAR:
maybe run the backup bat in administrator mode?

what os do you have?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
you mean restore.bat?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
make a copy (backup) of both folders into a different directory (temp) before you continue. Give them a meaningful filename extension (nodo, mango). Then let it overwrite (or copy it over yourself with my instructions earlier). - and yes run the bat with admin rights as ahlMAR suggested.

DO NOT overwrite the premango update! it looks like that's what the program wants to do?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Ok..giving it a shot....give me a sec
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I did everything you said and ran the restore.bat file and got the message, "No Restore Point Found"
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
screw the restore.bat file. copy the contents of the original premango folder over to your Windows Phone Update folder! Take ownership of the Windows Phone Update folder with the instructions in my earlier post.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Trying it now...

Man..thanks so much for helping me with all this I hope I get it back to Nodo
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Ok...I ran it through and its absolutely No restore Button. At the bottom of the screen is an OK button and a Cancel button. But other than that, that's it.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
and you confirmed it's the same size as the premango folder (4Gb as you wrote)? And you made sure the Windows Phone Update folder contains one folder with the GUID folder name that only contains two folders?

the only other possibility is that you are copying it to the wrong location. Which OS are you using. In Win7 it's this folder:

C:\Users\YourUserprofileName\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\

it's different on Windows XP
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
Try this path, its more XP compatible but works with all OS's:

%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

copy the above line and paste in the run dialog box. That is where you copy the whole folder in premangostate.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
The Windows Phone Update folder was empty before I copied the file:

96bb2c9b - ef06a0d8 - ed24056b - 3db8f227 into it, which i retrieved from the preMangoState Folder.

And the file 4.22GB...and the date it was last modified or whatever, was July 1.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I copy the entire line just like that...including the %%
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
weird, no restore option in Zune? which version of Zune do you have installed? the attached pic is what you should see. the version of Zune you are using should be 4.8. go to settings, software, general, click on about. you should see 4.8.2098.0
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Copied the your above line and it took me to the same file I was working with.

I also ran zume again and this time I got the message, cant check for updates right now. We couldnt restore your phone because your backup is not valid
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I have the zune beta client. version 4.8.2098
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Do you think I should uninstall the beta client, and install the regular zune instead?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
no, that will certainly not help if you are on mango. in your first post you state

that is strange because after the mango update and Zune installed you should have that already there. To me it sounds like it's a problem with the path....

if the correct restore folder is in there then Zune will display it under phone update and have a restore button.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
That wont work by using the old Zune as it cant talk to mango to do the restore but the old zune/phone tools will still manually do the restore with command line.

updatewp.exe /restore

should be in %programfiles%\zune
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
hmm, maybe he has the old updatewp.exe in the zune folder and the Zune beta doesn't know what to do with it? just a thought. I have no idea at the moment, other than that everything points to a path problem he got.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I also used this tool: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1103011

for making a backup....But when I ran the update script, it made a backup as well (PreMangoState) folder...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
updatewp doesnt do the zune restore, it just offers a command line tool that uses the same classes as zune to do the work
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
well, aren't you lucky. the master himself (hx4700 Killer) is helping you here ;)

another idea, windows live account mismatch (doesnt' sound like that could be the case, but who knows). Or his phone is guest on that machine.

sorry plmiller, I ran out of ideas. I need an espresso...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
You can use my program (v1.4) to try to perform the restore with your backup from the premangostate folder in the location I specified.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Whats your program?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
No [problem man..all your help was much appreciated.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1103011

The one you said you used to make the backup in the first place... it also restores the backup but it must be in the right place.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
now that is a funny question :D

btw. I am not shy, clicking the Thanks button won't hurt....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I ran the updatewp.exe /restore command line and got the following message in red:

Error: exception from Hresult: 0x80181349

call Stack:

at wm7update.program.restore.device.(Ideviceinfo device info)

at wm7update.program.main(string[]args)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
well, what do you know there is somebody else with the same problem here
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
oh...I'll send you a thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
Ok.. basics.. What OS? if Vista/7 is used is UAC on?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I'm using Vista...whats UAC?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Also I get the same message about HRESULT when I use your tool as well.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
UAC is user account control. It is security in Vista/7.

Right click on my program and in the context menu choose "Run as Administrator" then try the restore.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
wtf...I think it's working! It said restore my phone...so we'll see what happens.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
you are not reading the posts correctly it seems?. Two people before were telling you to run the bat file with admin rights.

glad you finally got it going.....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
Its back and running..thanks so much.

I did run the bat file the same way but it didn't work....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
Phew! good to hear that. Now I can drink my espresso in peace :p. good luck
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattn95:
Sorry to ask a stupid question but if i return to nodo which i had chevron unlocked will it still be unlocked?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
yes, if you restore to your premango restore point, it will be exactly in the same state you left it. in fact, if you make a backup of your mango b2 with hx4700 Killer's backup tool you can switch back and forth at will (make a backup of NoDo and Mango to a safe location).
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
where's the "Thanks" buttons at?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
should be right under other people's posts, left most button.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattn95:
Thankyou for your quick reply
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
you are welcome and there is no such thing as "stupid questions", that's what this forum is for....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plmiller0905:
I had to go eat right quick. But boy, I tell you what, you guys are a lot nicer than some of the people in the Evo 4G forums...lol
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hx4700 Killer:
That is because we are happier with our phones....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weijoon:
lol! Agree.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessiethe3rd:
Find ROM.

Install ROM.

The end :D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trixnix:
mine is working properly. i copied the file inside "premangostate" folder to %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

then open zune then settings then hit the update. boom. restore point is there.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannykavs:
I can't seem to find the %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

path in my C: drive. When I look under my userprofile there's no AppData folder....is there a chance that it could be stored somewhere else?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkp1977:
Make sure that you enabled "show hidden files and folders" in your explorer settings. Might be named somehow different, I can't tell the exact term since I use the German version of Windows.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannykavs:
Would you be able to guide me to where I can look to enable hidden files and folders?

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkp1977:
Start your explorer -> organize -> Folder and search options -> View -> scroll down -> hidden files and folders -> check the radio button labeled "show hidden files, folders and drives

Like I said, my translations might not be correct since I don't use the English version of windows.

But you can as well simply enter the full path into the desired input field of the explorer. It doesn't matter if the folder is hidden or not, if you enter it correctly, it will show its content.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannykavs:
Restored! I found the proper path....and after realizing that I needed version 4.8 of zune I'm finally back.

Phewww

Thanks guys
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moonshines:
i have also a stupid question.

where can i download the windowsphonetools4.8?

thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
links for 32 and 64 bit below

x64

x86
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moonshines:
thank you very much sir. appreciate it.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] przemulek1910:
Arrow How do I return back to nodo after flashing the Mango BetaArrow

I had the same problem. Thank you for your help.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schwabby:
I have the same problem. Upgraded to Zune Beta client and I have all the files inside the premangostate folder in %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

but when I click settings then update it says your device is up to date but does not show a restore point.

Advice? Do I maybe need different backup files?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
Those should be the correct backup files. Make sure you overwrite the same folder structure in the wpupdate folder. Make a backup of what is in that folder first. Check the size of the premango folder. If it's much smaller than it should be, its likely your backup got messed up. There are a number of ppl with the same problem and have to restore an original rom to go back. Good luck
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwachleman:
I did restore once after first loading mango and Im pretty sure I had to delete the Mango Zune version from my computer and reinstall, from the web, the 'older' version of Zune to get it to show me the restore option. you can also use the windows phone tool that should have been added to your computer when you did the update to mango to restore...if I am wrong on that first part someone let me know. Hope that helps.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] munkeyphyst:
I have found that if I wait until after the phone is connected and synced to move the two folders from my moved backup file into the device id folder in the backuplocation, and THEN go the settings-> update, the backup shows up every time.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schwabby:
Zune will ONLY recognize that my phone is connected if I am using the 4.8 software.

My backup files are a few hundred megabytes in size. Should be the right size since I had no media or apps or anything on the phone when it was backed up.

What is the exact file structure I should be putting the backup files into? currently, they are in: %localprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

The "windows phone update" folder did not exist initially. I created it on my own. No such folder existed before I started trying to do this.

Ideas?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
I did NOT have to revert to 4.7 to restore backup. In fact, if you uninstall v4.8 it will wipe that folder. Always make a backup of that folder before you uninstall Zune. If this folder did not exist before you started then you likely never did an update to the phone (e.g. NoDo?). Any update that goes through Zune will create this folder.

the location is:

C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\f52e5314 - 19e00904 - 7818db00 - d64473cf

in there are two folders:

- Properties

- RestorePoint

the number of that folder will be different for you. It is device specific and it should be the folder name in the PreMango folder on the C: drive root.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schwabby:
Yup that is exactly where I have the files. I have no idea why zune does not recognize it.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
what is odd is that you say the folder did not exist. Is is possibly someplace else?

just a guess...

I would try the backup tool and force a backup of the current phone state. It will create the folder and make a backup. Zune should see the newly created backup and have the restore button ready (idea is to condition Zune to a freshly created restore point). Then replace the files with your backup you are trying to put on the phone (always make sure you have a backup of both the mango and premango restore points).
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musicmaniaccro:
Ok... I had the same problem with restore.bat (there was no restore point...) so I did it like this:

1. from the folder C:\PreMangoState\bd48ff04 - 5fe3fd05 - fcc4ad38 - 5132dc93\RestorePoint select to copy THE LATEST FOLDER (check "date modified" - that would be the latest backup you took with update.bat)

2. go to C:\Users\%your username%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\bd48ff04 - 5fe3fd05 - fcc4ad38 - 5132dc93 and PASTE it into RestorePoint folder.

Now Zune should see it (in Zune you go to settings-update).

You should be careful not to copy and paste WHOLE bd48ff04 - 5fe3fd05 - fcc4ad38 - 5132dc93 folder from restore.bat because i believe that properties.xml file should not be replaced in "windows phone update" folder.

First time i did it I copied whole bd48ff04 - 5fe3fd05 - fcc4ad38 - 5132dc93 folder (and replaced all the files) and Zune did not see it.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derausgewanderte:
Musicmaniaccro, if that is the problem for many then this is big. I have not seen this suggestion anywhere. If somebody confirms this is working I suggest to open a new thread with your solution. There seem to be a lot of ppl with the same problem (e.g. In the backup utility thread).

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musicmaniaccro:
Yeah... I thought so...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B3nGz:
how can i restore from mango to nodo without a backup?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musicmaniaccro:
to B3nGz

hmmmm... maybe to flash it with ROM your phone needs.

I haven't tried flashing under Mango... Yet.