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[HTC Sensation] tigerz0202:
you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
you might be on to something...

Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
[HTC Sensation] Elvis_Freshly:
I made a post saying the same thing and got flamed..ha.

It's only the amount of devices affected and customers out of that amount affected that gets HTC to respond and quite simply "Sprint don't play that sh*t" in a nutshell. To be non-technical.

T-Mobile is on self-destruct right about now I might have to say. Sad part is its NOT intentional. I do however feel it's unfair to ignore others who are having issues.

My personal example of issues:

Device 1: Returned due to dead pixels like freckles.

Device 2: Returned Random signal drop not tower related

I'm now on device 3 and i have had it for 4 days...The power/wake button has "con-caved" on one side and today my touch screen stopped responding and i can barely unlock the screen now. I can barerly swipe left and right...I have NO apps downloaded other than Tweetdeck and XDA so IDK what could be causing it.

So I agree about the "senseless" (for lack of a better word) babbling about dumb stuff in here but some of us do have issues.
[HTC Sensation] Hoggles:
It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.

HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
[HTC Sensation] mancuk29:
I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
...even thought they went out of their way to say that the evo3D was going to be S-OFF :/

also, htc did nothing wrong by locking the bootloader, but where they DID go wrong is how they expressed their dedication to their customers and will unlock, then completely disappeared...

not to mention they have pushed many updates to the evo3D, and one for sensation, yet no S-OFF, AND they have a new phone coming out again! the pint size sensation, it has 50% specs of S4G...

...quietly disappointing
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
Try ultra keyboard. It has arrow keys and a host of other great features.
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
+1 GREAT POST

Sensation a breakthrough phone?

COME ON! WAKE UP!

LOL

Sense 3.0 was on the Desire HD before sensation released!

Plus its much faster on Desire HD then on the Sensation LOL!@

+1

Evo3D is the TRUE BREAKTHROUGH!

I Cannot understand how Sensation Owners think the Sensation stands a chance against the Evo :P :rolleyes::p:D
[Android Software Development] nickdog670:
I was wondering if it would be possible to make an App like the Avatar App or Inception App on the Vibrant/4G for different movies? Has anyone done this before? Thanks.
[Android Software Development] Gene Poole:
It would help those us that have no idea what those apps do if you would explain what it is you want to do in a little more detail.
[Android Software Development] lingols:
i like this idea, would be pretty cool. instead of searching for it through the gallery.
[Android Software Development] nickdog670:
The app would just link to the movie file. For example, the Avatar App when clicked would simply load up the Avatar movie, Inception app would load up Inception movie.
[Android Software Development] Gene Poole:
Where is the actual movie file?

At any rate, you can play a video file, local or networked, using the MediaPlayer class and a SurfaceView.
[Android Software Development] nickdog670:
the video file is located on either the internal or external memory. The app will just be a shortcut to the file. So instead of having to go to the gallery and clicking on it, the app will open the file in a video player.

See how it works at 10:29 in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcgHd4f4llw
[Desire General] rail123:
i have a desire, i known before it supports multitouch and i was waiting for "cut the rope" game. i played this game on my old ipod touch regular. the game released and i installed but android market said that "this application doesn't available for your device" anyway i can play thats the important thing until a part of game. i had to cut 2 ropes simultaneously but i couldn't. i touched my 2 fingers same time but it detected just one of them.

i read somewhere "desire doesn't support multitouch, it has just a kind of double touch", is this true?
[Desire General] island3r:
Yes it's true. Download multitouch tester from the market and see for yourself.

Or if you're bored:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLUmJL_Px0
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Yes. The desire do not have true miltitouch. It only have 2 points miltitouch. However that does not imply that it cannot play cut the rope. I have a desire with a version of cut the rope which I got from getjar.com, and it works brilliantly. Miltitouch and all. I even completed the game. Maybe you can try getting it from getjar and see if it works?
[Desire General] rail123:
i will try but i'm really sad because of i got this device so new however...

thank you both of you :o
[Desire General] rail123:
yes, i tried from getjar one, and it can detect my 2 fingers amazing :) thank you so much but its really interesting.
[Desire General] T-Rrexx:
For me, Desire isn't a good device for playing games which requires multitouch. Unfortunately, it has dual-touch screen. But don't forget that it's not a game console such as PSP! :)
[Desire General] vnvman:
Well imho the desire is not a good device for playing games in general...
[Desire General] spikegv:
I guess it depends what kind of games you play
[Desire General] do0b:
sorry for jumping into this post but, which adroid phones/devices has 'true' multitouch? comparing the desire to the iphone, the iphone has suprior multitouch capabilities. up to 10 touches i think. is there anyway to improve the desire's multitouch?
[Desire General] island3r:
Well the guys over at the Atrix section used a hack to make the Atrix recognize up to 10 fingers from 2. Maybe something can be done for the desire as well (if it's not a hardware limitation that is).

Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1134057
[Desire General] Azurael:
It is. All the later HTC devices have a different model of touch panel which supports more (5?) fingers.
[Desire General] itachi1706:
All htc phones after the desire had at least 4 points multitouch (desire hd etc.)
[Desire General] noonamer:
only two-figners no more
[Desire General] Lord Morpheus:
I have 'Cut The Rope' on my Desire and Sensation XE, downloaded from Android Market, it runs fine on both handsets.
[Desire HD Android Development] audiavant:
Thanks, many are waiting for this information :)
[Desire HD Android Development] ianyt77:
Thank you Thank you Thank you !!! Got it working and loaded LeeDroid's ROM

WOW You guys are great.... thanks to all who have spent so much time and effort to crack 2.37...

I'm not very good sometimes at understanding all this programming stuff but after a full day of messing and redoing ... IT WORKS!!!

YYYeeeeeeee Hawwwwwwwww

Thanks again

aero star
[Desire HD Android Development] ravian29:
4. Boot phone into Bootloader (hold volume down whilst power on), follow the steps and continue to update

what does this means ? i am in bootloader but can not see any update options, there are following options

FASTBOOT

RECOVERY

FACTORY RESET

SIMLOCK

IMAGE CRC

any help please
[Desire HD Android Development] Baarf:
Yeaaah it's work great !

Thanks !!! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] hero000:
Don't change any thing as far as I know It'll boot into "Fastboot" incase if it didn't choose "FASTBOOT"

It'll check Recvoery, Tp , etc. I forgot to name them.

Follow CuBz90's guide it works 100%. I downgraded n rooted n now running custom ROM.
[Desire HD Android Development] [Aek]:
Is there a way to gain root status in 2.37, so the phone can be backed up (via Titanium backup or similar) prior to the downgrade?

Failing that is there any other way to backup the phone?

I assume that when downgrading all data will be lost.
[Desire HD Android Development] aypee3:
kindly reupload the "Download this ROM - Mirror" link as whenever i click it i get

-

404 Page Not Found

The page you requested was not found.
[Desire HD Android Development] CuBz90:
Both work for me
[Desire HD Android Development] CuBz90:
You can backup apps with MyBackup, but you cannot backup the data as 2.37 cannot be rooted
[Desire HD Android Development] u2pop:
Hellow, just want to confirmed it works! Happy happy joy joy! Thanks for all magicians here that made this possible!
[Desire HD Android Development] gagan01:
I ve unbranded dhd do I need to make goldcard

mechanical engineer
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
I have added the additional step of going to SoftBank ROM into the official downgrade guide :)

I am still looking forward to getting a proper, universal root method for 2.37, but this will do for the time being.
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Well every 2.37 is branded in some way, so you should not even be following this guide.. :)
[Desire HD Android Development] h_andria:
after downgrade..

when into boatloader Hboot

i can find menu:

FASTBOOT

RECOVERY

FACTORY RESET

SIMLOCK

IMAGE CRC

but i can not select that...

just stuck

any help please?
[Desire HD Android Development] CuBz90:
Just leave it and it should start to update, if not, try factory reset first
[Desire HD Android Development] h_andria:
what that mean?

i can not into factory reset from bootloader menu...

volume button can not use...

anyone help?
[Desire HD Android Development] panhavuth:
finally i done it.thanks you man.
[Desire HD Android Development] gagan01:
I bought dhd when it was on 2.2.. so I rooted it and after some time made ota to 2.37 build.. now phone is s-0ff and its unbranded .. do I still need to make gold card.. jkoljo pls help ...

mechanical engineer
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Well this is not even my thread, why are you asking my help here? :p

Anyway, you do not need to make a goldcard, and you do not even need any downgrade guide. Just put stock 1.32.405.6 PD98IMG.zip (get it from my downgrade guide) into your SD card and reboot to bootloader. Accept the update and make a cup of coffee.
[Desire HD Android Development] scorpion5:
I'm ready for any test :rolleyes:

Build: 2.42
[Desire HD Android Development] Life Engineer:
I'm on 2.42 too but i'm afraid i'm not willing to test since i have many data that i dont wanna loose!

OP Is there is any work on 2.42?!

God bless you and i will be waiting desperately for this!
[Desire HD Android Development] CuBz90:
There are quite a few people working on it :)
[Desire HD Android Development] SsZzliMm:
Test

I'm ready for testing. I'm on 2.50.
[Desire HD Android Development] babybungbu:
Hey guys, I have a quick question. I did all the steps and successfully brought it back to 1.32 from 2.37. However, the Market app cannot download, so I don't have the file explorer app to carry on root and other stuffs (I tried using HTC hub to test the phone's downloading ability and I worked fine. So only the Market has problem).

Anyone has the same issue? Or can anybody suggest a solution for my problem, I've got stuck now at this stage I cannot do anything without having the file explorer app. I don't know why HTC doesn't have the file explorer app pre-installed.
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
clear market cache..
[Desire HD Android Development] nqk:
I have done successfully everything in the guide and now my DHD is rooted, S-offed and running custom rom.

My question is what will happen if I change my SD card (goldcard)? Formatting the 8GB card to Fat32 (not fast format) took quite a long time, so would it work if we just utilize a smaller card for goldcard?

And I think this should be in the FAQ: "Error: No device found" ==> Install HTC Sync.
[Desire HD Android Development] hero000:
Ya can use any SDCard ya like
[Desire HD Android Development] :
CuBz90, Thanks for this detailed guide, works flawlessly. Many thanks once again.
[Desire HD Android Development] goatmasterau:
Hi there,

I'm a newbie to Android and its almost a brain explosion trying to get your head around the entire process of rooting (which i learnt cant be done with 2.37) and downgrading.

I saw this thread and it made me very happy...until I saw that its for 2.37.762.2 only.. because my device is 2.37.861.8, so I just want to confirm that I shouldn't bother with this? Mine is 2.37, but the 861.8 is higher...

I'm hoping that number is irrelevant and it will still work? :/
[Desire HD Android Development] raviz:
after "#" i cant type anything there the last command ..

what do i do ? plz help fast
[Desire HD Android Development] [Aek]:
I have finished downgrading and is now running MIUI, not sure if I like it.

Anyway, just want to confirm that..

1. The files indeed can't be opened by Windows 7 (x64 if that matters), but can be opened by WinRAR and are working fine.

2. Downgrade works flawlessly with 2.37.861.8

The entire downgrade process takes less than 20mins, with most of the time spent in flashing firmware (twice). I'm not sure how/why GingerBreak took so long on some people's phone. I didn't even factory reset before the downgrade.
[Desire HD Android Development] DotNetRules:
Works with 2.37.8x

Works with 2.37.8x too YAY YAY YAY Woop Woop!
[Desire HD Android Development] goatmasterau:
thank you :):):):):)
[Desire HD Android Development] arminvandyk:
getting "wrong image" error

guys...help me...m getting wrong image error...i have read the FAQ's & done a factory reset but cant fgure out whats d problem??
[Desire HD Android Development] raviz:
well dont worry

it comes at first just wait for a while and let it continue ti should take the image
[Desire HD Android Development] arminvandyk:
it goes into the bootloader....searches for the zip file..."no image found or wrong image" message is flashed...and nothing happens after that...whats d problem ...?
[Desire HD Android Development] ajoshi9194:
It works.

:D
[Desire HD Android Development] ajoshi9194:
This problem is related to ur SDCard. What I mean is, check if IMG file is properly transfrd to ur SDCard, delete it once, and paste again and try.
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
Suspect U didn't make goldcard on ur sdcard...
[Desire HD Android Development] arminvandyk:
i did....& just now tried with 2 sd cards ....full format...checked the md5 hash as well...same problem..
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
maybe the goldcard server got little problem, try wait a while and create new goldcard again...
[Desire HD Android Development] arminvandyk:
i tried with 2 diff sd cards...anyways now reformatting the sd card ...hope it works out....
[Desire HD Android Development] zubir2k:
Just wanted to share if anyone got the boomsh permission error:

Do this and try GingerBreak again.

CuBz90, you may add this into your FAQ should you think it is necessary.
[Desire HD Android Development] gagan01:
Thank u jkoljo .. rooted my dhd ..only now using cynogenmod 7 stable version. U made my day thank u....
[Desire HD Android Development] danny6514:
Ready for testing. TELUS 2.43 user here.
[Desire HD Android Development] gagan01:
Best of luck
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
Hi guys, I've already posted in the Q&A thread but thankfully I found this guide for my software build, 2.37.61.11. I didn't really want to duplicate questions already asked in here in the Q&A thread so I'll keep it here from now on.

I'm new to Android so am looking for some guidance and help.

I've created a Goldcard on a spare 2Gb SD card I had so I'm hoping it'll work.

In step 3 of the guide; "3. Put the PD98IMG.zip onto the root of your SDCard" would this be the SD card already in my phone or on the Goldcard? I'm a bit confused as to when the Goldcard should be used as it says at the beginning of the guide to create a Goldcard but doesn't say when to use it..

My Phone is branded to Orange, although it's unlocked for any SIM card, and is running the folowing:

Android 2.3.3

HTC Sense 2.1

Software 2.37.61.11

Basically, I need to know in what order to do things to make the phone un-branded and to be able to personalise it so any help would be much appreciated.
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
You still need put the file to goldcard until you totally rooted and s off your device..
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
Sorry, but now I'm really confused. Do I put the PD98IMG.zip onto the Goldcard via a card reader and then insert it into my phone? or do I put the Goldcard into my phone and then copy the file from my PC to the Goldcard via USB?

In what order do I need to do things? An idiots guide would really help here as yes, I'm an idiot. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] danny6514:
it doesn't matter. just make the goldcard and do everything as if it's just a normal sd card.

okay to clear things up, there is only ONE sd card. the gold card = the sd card in your phone
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
OK, thanks for clearing that one up.

I've read that many guides in the last couple of days that I've confused myself. I'm sure I read in one guide that I needed 2 SD cards, but if I only need the one, that'll do for me.

So, to clarify, I mount the file on the Goldcard I've created in order to downgrade my phone, following the guide by the OP.

Once that's done successfully, I can then ROOT and S-Off to debrand the phone and start using custom ROMS as per the other guides?
[Desire HD Android Development] danny6514:
Yes. Make sure you place the file in the root of your SD card (gold card).
[Desire HD Android Development] bengylow:
Dear All expert,

After updates to build 2.37.762.2 with gold card, i was stucked in step 9. Please help. Could not temproot the phone now. It says chmod denied. Please help......now im having odd version without able to root......
[Desire HD Android Development] bengylow:
Im having DHD 2.3.3. with OTA 2.37.707.3
[Desire HD Android Development] hero000:
Have ya done al the steps successfully up to step 9 including making goldcard ....
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
Well, I've done it!

I followed the guide and I'm downgraded to 1.32.405.6, so now on to Rooting & S-OFF and all those custom ROMS I've been reading about. :)

One thing for the OP. I had to remove and replace my battery in order to get my phone to access Bootloader. Might be worth entering into the guide.

Also, thanks to Danny6514 for easing my nerves.
[Desire HD Android Development] CuBz90:
Not really because that's not usually the case

Do you mean FAQs?
[Desire HD Android Development] goatmasterau:
I downgraded successfully from 2.37.861.8 with these instructions. Thank you so much OP. Time to rock n roll!
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
It was just a thought, that's all. Other people may experience the same problem of the phone not booting into Bootloader when powering on with volume down pressed (I tried 4-5 times). It worked first time once I'd taken the battery out.

Othar than that, the guide was easy to follow and everything went as written. If I can do it, anyone can.:D
[Desire HD Android Development] descenpet:
most probably, it didn't work because you had "fast boot" option set in settings>power.
[Desire HD Android Development] CuBz90:
Maybe you had the Fast Boot option checked.

Edit: descenpet beat me to it :D

I have added "How to disable fast Boot" to the FAQs
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
I've unchecked the fastboot option and can now get Bootloader via power on/Volume down so it could have been that.

The only problem now is that once it's entered bootlader, it starts checking the IMG file really quickly (Hboot) so I'm unable to step up and down the menu list to select other things.

Any ideas?
[Desire HD Android Development] descenpet:
if you have PD98IMG.zip or such on your SD, it will do that.. :p
[Desire HD Android Development] Scaleyback:
And the solution is? I'm presuming you're going to say "delete it" as I've extracted the contents, but I dont want to delete it untill someone says it's OK to do so.

It's OK. All sorted. It's a steep learning curve aint it?
[Desire HD Android Development] shendoz:
I've done all the step, then when i go to bootloader wait for the second update of stock 1.32 PD98IMG.zip, it showing no image or wrong image.

I do read your FAQs, but i still not understand it, what is leave it and it will auto update? Just leave it in bootloader mode? I have clearly that i do put into my sd card, but why still appear no image or wrong image? Any method to solve it?

Urgent, please help...

is this picture showing the correct way?
[Desire HD Android Development] descenpet:
the pic seems right..

for that no image or wrong image, you see something like this right

[PD98DIAG.zip]

no image or wrong image

[PD98DIAG.nbh]

no image or wrong image

[PD98IMG.zip]

no image or wrong image

[PD98IMG.nbh]

no image or wrong image

first 2 is normal.. if the 3rd one (PD98IMG.zip) goes no image or wrong image, you dont have the file on SD or something is wrong with your PD98IMG.zip. maybe corrupted download.
[Desire HD Android Development] shendoz:
ok, i also assume that first two is normal and right and my gold card also in the correct way... but for the PD98IMG.zip, if with the way u said is corrupted, it means cannot open directly from zip file in windows, right? but i manage to open it successfully, and after a test of winrar, it shows no problems...so i also wonder which way am i did wrongly now =="

and i can double 100% confirmed that i did put PD98IMG.zip into my sd card >.<
[Desire HD Android Development] descenpet:
to be sure, check MD5sum of your PD98IMG.zip.

it could be SD card problem too. try formatting it as FAT32 (not quick format)
[Desire HD Android Development] shendoz:
hmm, do u mind to tell me what is MD5sum and how to check with it? Thanks...

so from now, which step should i repeat to do if i want to format it now?
[Desire HD Android Development] descenpet:
if you have a working rom, use

adb shell /sdcard/PD98IMG.zip

it should be C3D244A9F056E48EE3851A14FF52204C

if you format your SD, you shouldnt need to redo the other steps.. just place your PD98IMG.zip in your SD card and reboot into bootloader.
[Desire HD Android Development] shendoz:
actually, this is my 1st time of doing such thing...so i still don't understand with your statement, hopefully u won't mind it ya~

here is the statement that i quite confuse with it:

<if you have a working rom, use

adb shell /sdcard/PD98IMG.zip

it should be C3D244A9F056E48EE3851A14FF52204C>

what is that code for? so far i only have those 2 rom which stated from this post...i only download these 2 rom, and now after i reboot from off hp, it shows softbank...