yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
I would totally disagree yuki, no matter what the reason was behind this release of theirs, it gives us a preview of what mango is.

and if you say mango does not have homebrew, cant access market place then i must let you know that the Metro UI is refined and polished in itself and does not need any homebrew epic fail shortcuts/colours just to make it look yet more ugly. and as far as app support/marketplace goes, if i needed apps, i wouldn't be using WP7 first of all. Android is what i would look for.

They give to us what we asked them for, lets not get into the long debate, after all DFT was one of the key players in getting WP7 and even Android working on HD2.

Sorry to be sounding arrogant, but can you let us know how did you even get the release when the links are only for dft members and archive passwords are only circulated withing few members ?

any pics ? cuz, im using it without any apps and it still is very good as there is no app i miss from Nodo or pre nodo builds. WP7 is not the OS i would look at for apps as said above.

And for those calling this 'joke', go get some balls and try cooking your own mango build. let that alone, try writing an alternative to MAGLDR before criticizing them. It's so hard to see such senior members making such harsh comments against DFT after what they have done for us and HD2. Pathetic.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Well, yes WP7 is quite usable without apps, however there are still some apps that i use daily: Facebook, Kik messenger, Twitter (which will be included in final mango), well at least having the option is, in my opinion, required.

Therefore, i really hope HD2owner, or anyone else for that matter, manages to change the device name so we can be on marketplace.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
Just reflashed to yuki's v5.

I am a member of the DFT forum (same username over there as well) and have had the rom since the release by insane refreshing. :P

The rom itself is fine. The new features are all great to use but without games and apps I don't see the point in keeping it. I can, however, understand how you could use it without apps as most of the stuff is in by default in the OS.

Plus one of the main features I was looking forward to was the fb chat but I could not get it to work no matter how much I tried....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] dazza9075:
im with YukiXDA on this one, there is no point.

To note the driver issues people keep moaning about, its highly unlikely we will ever be able to update the drivers unless someone can find native hardware with the same spec as the HD2, which is doubtful given the age of our device.

Perhaps if someone has access to the code from HTC then we can rewrite the driver but again thats very unlikely.

We have test drivers, an i wouldnt be supprised if they stopped work on them once HTC got ahold of HD7 parts to play with.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] FD10:
I'm dreaming fb chat on wp7 :D is tethering available??

Thank you
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
nope, but someone way back wrote a usb tethering app, check the app section
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
No Point ? It is for people who like to be on the bleeding edge. Maybe the same reason why Wp7 and Android were even ported to HD2, for running Bleeding edge soft. people instead of crying helped devs unlike now where new people who get HD2 after seeing the number of OS it runs and then cry this doesnt work, that doesnt work without thinking even for a second that running wp7/android wouldn't even be possible if people like cotulla, da_g, hastarin, DFT wouldn't spare the time they would use for their families, studies and jobs to give us something for free.

I advise you to read XDA rules, Dont complain, whatever you get is effort of someone in his precious time. go use WM6.5 if you think drivers are not good, or write your own perhaps before blaming them.

The OP itself notes, this is just a technical preview and in no way should be flashed if your mobile is critical to you. so please stop whining and just be silent if you can't be of any help.

For those wanting FB chat, if you watch preview, fb chat is already integrated in your messages. go see the Mango preview again if you don't believe me. ofc you need a goot data/wifi connection for chat to work.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Alienaiden:
This rom is actually really good!

This rom is excellent. Really fast and smooth, and has quite a few new features. It's really amazing what you can find with some simple googling and common sense!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] FD10:
I know but doesn't work for me...i was hoping in wifi tethering
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Like Alienaiden, i found it easy to find the file somewhere in a search engine by now (it was to be expected). I won't publish a link nor flash it, as i find it unusuable without apps.

Something i did find strange: The Data.zip file dates back to March 25th. "Date modified March 25th, 2011". This would mean this release has not been tempered with for months! I tend to kind of agree with yuki that this might a bit of a joke or a test or something...

I know from the PSP hacking scene, that there was similar drama with custom FW. Dev groups would kind of test how the community reacts and then tell them "you guys behaved so badly that now we won't release the real thing anymore". Haha. Well, i suggest the drama stops and we just wait what happens. Who knows, maybe they long have a much newer release that we will never see if we continue to complain...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] HD2Owner:
rom flashed, extracted, modified default.hv and user.hv (marketplace access etc.).

but now i'm facing issue during rebuilding rom (filesize too big).

when switching to german, there are some letter display issues in settings etc.

this rom makes me hope that there will be another final version. testing...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Yeah, someone else here posted that they had trouble changing the registry hive file.

Well, March 25th build is kind of old, i am sure many things have been fixed in newer Mango builds. Goes without saying i hope someone can manage to replace the old Mango files with the beta 2 files, as has been done with Nodo.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
OMG :D

You can't disagree a thing I didn't said.

It's cool to have a first version to test is exactly what I was meaning, I don't like at all debates about who achieved first etc. etc.

But this is a version untouched since march and it makes me asking why release it now and whith same bugs corrected a long time ago. Not you?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
The devs just need a dump with the sys from any of the mango builds.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Well, the beta2 file for "developers" has been leaked to filesharing websites for days now. If it was so easy, wouldn't someone have simply changed the nodo sys files for the new mango sys files? I am thinking there might be more to it this time?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Zenk_77:
Did you solved: (file size too big) ??
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mountainmon:
I also don't like people who complain, but with DFT's build, it's justified. There are a LOT of questions and mystery surrounding this build. I mean these are simple questions. And yes, this is kind of a "joke" build. It's not the actual Mango build. It's the first beta from March. The multitouch bug is still there. The green tint is still here. No HTML5 as far as i can see. Do i need to continue?

Not to sound arrogent or anything, but maybe if DFT started acting mature enough to release it to some very good DEV's on XDA instead of needing to understand chinese (face it, google translate's horrible lol), then we might see some more progress.

And yes, i understand it's really difficult to make a build from scratch. But if an amateur developer could make something like CLK, which DOES have the charging when off feature, it's difficult to comprehend why such respected DFT devs couldn't do the same.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] genesis123:
Those are the files to patch zune that will then download the files from a microsoft server and update the rom. We need those files...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] dazza9075:
Dude, you need to chill out, calm down an relax, everyone apprechates what these guys have done, that there is no doubt but people who do not know any better will get this thing some day and will come back here moaning about something not working, personally i think installing this at this time is a waste of time asi need my device useable for work, for people who wish to test things out thats fine, but generally they are not the people who keep asking the same questions day in day out.

Just wait for people to work on this and get ROMS out that actually work correctly and are upto date, or do it your self, but the vast majority of people on here cant do that, and many of those help in other ways, going off on one like that isnt helping anyone and isnt giving an informed opinion either.

Regarding your driver point, im not sure what your trying to say there, many people are still asking about the same issues which are by an large driver related, i dont have an issue with them, ive learned to work around the issues but it needs to be stated that its unlikely we will get all the fixes for the issues unless someone has access to the code to write them or drivers from a native device is found, both of which are possible but unlikely at this time.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
Ah, that explains. I was kind of wondering why noone had dissected the beta2 rom.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] dAV84:
i have just any chose to say

i don'rt critque the point of DFT or Cotulle or any more peaploe

Just, wehe i view the avance of news work in HD2, i ask to me why with news rom isn't integred?

Thaks all, no apollogy to anything.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] beston94:
Im just curious are there a lot of people using windows phone 7 on their htc hd2 daily use? if so could you specify your rom and battery life?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zurv:
My Wife and I both use win7 nodo on our Hd2s every day. Battery? hrmm.. it lasts for a day. *shrug* :) i'm pretty low by the time i get home tho...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Dad57:
Your french is a little bit creepy ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] sudeep6258:
Hey chill on the blaming on DFT.. Come on, they are doing it for free.. and if people whom they are helping go on crying like this and instead of appreciating tell them they aren't mature.. well that's just foolish then.. because DFT could have been selling their Magldr.. etc and you would have happily bought them.. So please.. appreciate the work rather than criticize think about it.. if you are giving some one free stuff and they in return rather than saying thank u say it ain't good enough i for one would show them the middle finger and say move on with it am not giving you nothing..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mad2525:
someone who has the file can upload Somewhere?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] firaX:
mad, it's really not necessary. Try a search engine, you will find it by now. I really wouldn't flash this at this point. See if HD2owner or someone else manages to "fix it up" for daily use (i.e. Marketplace access and so on).
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Zenk_77:
exactly, use google :)

problem is a re-building, without the marketplace is not very useful :(
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mad2525:
ok, well I have no problem going Tester also, if help with something. so I want to try it.

thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] JonnieLasVegas:
Seriously?!?!? WP7 has the best version of multi platform apps, by far! All useful apps are available for WP7. The other OS's just have a bunch of junk apps, besides what's available there as well as here.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] norgan:
i'm glad someone picked that up, anyone who thinks the wp7 marketplace is missing anything just wants a bunch of fart and web portal apps.

The marketplace is very mature both in quality and quantity.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] hd945157206:
yellow mango will soon :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] zurv:
For people that installed it...

can you look in the office section and tell me what options there are for Lync?

(lync is MS's communtion server - my office uses it as their phone system)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
:eek: you make me crazy :D

Leave aside the debate, just imagine nobody blame nobody, or criticizes the work of the other... I know, it's difficult ^^

Of course they have done great great job BUT this version is from March, when I say this I say untouched at all from march, just look at the part04.bin in Data.zip: 25/03/2011

And it's clear they had already that at this date since there were screenshots of working china keyboard in another thread.

So it's not a release on their free time to please anybody, it just here to say they had already it at this date. It explain the wait for NoDo, or one DFT dev could had a problem or left the group or they didn't apreciate I released NoDo saying I didn't understand why they didn't before or any combination.

To be clear some with knowledge here, or some who had released some tools didn't hesitate ponting things I didn't know, and likes to play with that, by PM and messenger too. They could have been angry or upset for any reason, by the reactions of all too or one could had a problem and other were waiting for or just playing since they have Mango on their devices since march. Or any other reason, like I said in april I just don't know...

Sooooo this Mango build could have been yours since April, here is the exploit! (for me not the fact of mango since it ask only good relationship but for the port of WP7 on HD2), here is the thing for all sceptics from march. The xda.cn attack, talk about this build like if it had just been finished and releasing it now is a joke (Ironic, very Ironic or not at all) but a joke, or a wink if you prefer. If it wasn't I'm sure there will be at least a modified file since march, isn't it evident?

And I don't understand how a wink can create a debate 'bad stuff' vs 'generous heart' :rolleyes::p

Edit: and I can't understand too how some people can take my term joke as a criticism and talking about the irrespect for free work with the time I've passed to give and improve the NoDo build. A joke is just a joke, don't have normally to been understood... XD

And so finally hope for a real 7661 version soon.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] sudeep6258:
Yea I guess I do understand it.. but I had seen some people being rude to them elsewhere which is probably why they all got pissed off and didn't release them to us..:D and thanks for your work yuki :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Zenk_77:
bravo YukiXDA:)

Maybe 7661 and and offended at all (joke) ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
:)

I hope it wasn't not my fault by misinterpretation or you can kill me ;):p

Yes I understand that too. But I think in this case you don't have to defend them, better pointing the trick, they can in only one day by synchronizing with the MS release and talking about an attack on their website take the interest from all and raise a nonsense debat like the great thread there were in march^^

They looks young but really brillant :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Strop:
1. YukiXDA you have my support 100% you are truly unselfish and believe in open dialogue. Thank you. If only there were more like you.

2. I have perused the thread and can not find a link, I assume it still has not been released to general public.

Regards
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] michinohatoresu:
Not quite. If your Google-fu is up to par, then you can find it, but know that the Marketplace doesn't work yet, and if you want apps, then it's easier just to wait for another ROM.

As for me, I'm currently trying to get my hands on default.hv and user.hv so I can tweak it myself. Just having trouble since this is my first time attempting. :P

Edit: Oh, I seem to be missing the latest htcRIE. D:

Double Edit: Never mind. :3
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mwang:
seems your people really dont understand Chinese :p what's mean Green Mango ? meaning not mature , meaning can eat but not Delicious ,why we want to release ? yes now had 7661 but need have times to work it , in this wating time why not just test it get some feeling ? meantime why we not release here ? why only in DFT.cn ? thinking about this first before you complain ,why we not allow xda.cn ? this fake XDA in China steal everyone's work and made their own , flashed to devices and sell to ppl in China , your guys can remember who release first WP7/AD vedio in HD2 ? its xda.cn they are making fake vedio to fool ppl in China got sell more devices to making money, same as they release vedio running AD in HD7 , we had announce will never make AD in HD7 few weeks ago,take look all thread about xda.cn in every Chinese forums or DFT.cn than you will unterstand why, all our team members everyone in here for long time which time we didnt release here ?

PS.main point this rom for frist CHS/CHT rom ,Chinese happy to test :P
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Tachi91:
Who is to say that Microsoft after a newer build is released they block off older builds that aren't public from accessing (downloading) from the Marketplace... Just like DFT is keeping this or was planning on keeping this within a small circle of users to test the Mango features on our HD2 and if any would be able to spoof a newer or older build number to allow access, if I right that is...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] rlydiard:
Thanks mwang for explaining the situation for those who do not understand Chinese.

I can attest to the veracity of what mwang is referring to here and yes there are a lot of fake videos in China going around, all for the purpose of making a fast fraudulent buck. And, these people are not above hacking websites for their own selfish gain.

For those who were complaining in this thread, perhaps you should consider walking a mile in another's moccasins, or trying to understand the situation before complaining.

The XDA-Developer community owes much to the hard work of Cotulla and the Dark Forces Team, and I for one wish them the best of luck.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
We need AnDim back and his tool which can include the latest compression methode to include 5 languages in mango rom :)

^^

Ok for all you've said and I really know how much Chinese could be happy with keyboards layout, you've got no idea of the number of PM I've had for that :)

But to be green it's green since in march there were no sun at all ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] rlydiard:
Being as that Microsoft is not yet close to even issuing the RTM version of Mango, I find this debate to be wearisome. Is it not enough that the devs already have something to work with?

To reiterate what mwang said, it takes time to incorporate newer beta versions, and there have been problems with some in China who will steal work for their own profit by hacking websites and using false advertising. This has had an effect on development by DFT. But, there are many who use both traditional and simplified Chinese who will welcome this "green" version of Mango.

Can we not all work and co-exist here without bringing our egos to the table?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mwang:
used your brain to think it before you you say in march , are you forgot we release first WM6.1 and WM6.5 that time ???????????????????????
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] :
Looks like I need to start posting in DFT forums....

and I finally figured out why xda.cn was blocked at my school LOL

I'm glad that DFT has not given up support on HD2 yet
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] backlashsid:
if only you all made it in time

the link was posted in a new thread to the download link

got deleted in 22mins !! ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] rlydiard:
Sometimes the moderators are very fast when they are nudged. ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] pharmeceutikle:
Patience is a virtue

I have always gone with this motto here. First releases aren't always the best and in this case this is not even a purposed release. It's best to just wait for the official release. For me, I'll wait several weeks after to see how people are doing with it. Hell, I'll may even wait for bug fixes version 2s of HD2 Mango.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] michinohatoresu:
Indeed. It took me forever just to find a working version. Still, it's been fun learning about how WP7 works. Hopefully I can cook a ROM someday soon.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
See, its their life, their work, it's their wish when to release and when not, what to do etc etc.. if this build is from march, why din't we see any release here on xda ?

that was the point of my last 3 posts, this community is giving you something for FREE, no questions asked. now if you want to complain, go whine to HTC to whom you paid for your HD2, the unrealistic WP7 upgrade and the antique peice of WM6.5

Very good dev's on xda ? i hope you will reconsider that, except for yuki and a few more, DFT, cotulla and Da_g were the only people who made any progress on WP7 on HD2, rest were just who released a rom with wallpapers changed and a few things here and there.

also FYI, clk is forked from lk which was also released for free at Codeaurora forums, Cedesmith had to just mess around with LEO specific stuff to get it running, not that im trying to steal credit. I see so many people whining like baby pigs regarding RMNET. its the same everywhere, people never get satisfied from what they get. just imagine what if Cotulla and DFT were never there, no HSPL, no MAGLDR, no WP7, no Haret to run android, maybe codeaurora would not even release a linux bootloader for qsdxk devices then.

You have a choice, either don't download the rom, and keep the forums clean or get it and help devs debug.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] PedrooNL:
YukiXDA +1.

I wait for your Mango.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] mainzweb:
YukiXDA......................

I'm waiting for your mango too................

love your rom
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] DownloadMaster:
Cmon guys we've all seen this little drama play out like 4-5 times.

Before release:

Cotulla/DFT are stuck up pricks. They should go die in a ditch.

After Release:

Cotulla/DFT are the second coming of jesus. Will you have my babies?!!!

Personally I'm doubtful of a monday release. Remember the september MAGLDR release date?:D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Rick_1995:
LOL, the rom is already released and working on my, HD2owner and a few more HD2s, it's just that they want other forums to release this rom after 3 days of release on DFT forums.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] man79:
Thanks for Mango-Rom
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] GameDr04:
I got it. And it is AWESOME! Although.....the marketplace is still non-functioning for the moment. But knowing DFT, that will be fixed within the week.

There's something about it... Mango is......cleaner and snappier than previous builds. And the Social integration is above and beyond.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Lacabrinator:
I guess my google-fu is weak.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] Giganten79:
Hi

Trying the Mango right now ;-) To bad the marketplace doesn´t work yet. :( But anyway i´m glad to just try it out for a while. It is much more snappier and also much more stuffs in it.

Hope Yuki,DFT or somebody else get this Rom to be fully working ;-) I´ll live for the hope ;-)

Br!

Giganten79
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Development] radiance26:
it seems that the DFT have released a beta version of the first beta of mango, maybe to see what's gonna happened, or in wait to release the second beta of mango later.

Anyway with all respect I own for DFT, this release is a just a joke, no need to try it, we have so much better with latest yuki's rom.