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[Windows Phone 7 General] jessiethe3rd:
Marketing:

Yes the WP7 marketing hasn't been the best. The onslaught hasn't fully started yet though - I believe they are waiting first for year close and stronger marketing from their favorite partner... Nokia.

I expect Mango marketing will be better but they haven't quite hit stride - this is less then a year out with limited hardware... just give it some time.

App prices... yes they are high - simple fact is NUMBERS. App Devs will charge what they can get away with. WP7 want the apps and they are willing to pay the prices for them. As the device count spreads the pricing may begin to drop to attract other users who have not downloaded because of cost.

We are here at the beginning so of course we'll get hit the hardest :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] TotalAxim:
Microsoft marketing is horrendous. I've had 5 WinMo devices, too long complacent with the incremental changes. They had a market to themselves but had let others run away with it. The large oceanliner that is Microsoft takes so long to change heading. I was looking forward to WP7, and when it first came out at Verizon, I went to check it out. I've been to 4 VZ stores and none of them have the phone activated. NONE! I can't check out IE to browse anything. How is that supposed to sell anyone? I tried to contact Microsoft about the fact that their demo phones aren't even activated, but instead I got some rep from another country. I told him to escalate it to his manager, provided my info, but no one has gotten back to me. I went back to another VZ store and still... the demo WP7 had no service.

I'm quite upset about it, but I'm not above switching away from WinMo until Microsoft gets a clue with what to do with all the money they make.

I'm going to give calling Microsoft a final shot and see if I can get some fat exec to listen to me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] NotTarts:
I'm going to quote a conversation here:

Also, this is interesting:

i.imgur.com/8bbmJ.jpg

The average price is actually $2.99 for most games (AUD3.99 here in Australia), but I'm not sure if I understand your logic. How does the platform you play the game on change it's worth?
[Windows Phone 7 General] elitemikes:
This platfrom has a lot of potential, but MS needs to listen to its users.

App prices are not the reason it will fail. I'm sorry but as a developer my time is worth more than $0.99 Those that think otherwise have no programming experience. Sure can I make millions off of one good app that is 99 cents or free, YES, but the odds of that happening are slim with how many apps come out.

Their marketing is what will kill this platform. well that along with not listening to the needs of the users. The notification system is now going to be behind the other 2 major players and that is not good for heavy users.

They need to fix their endpoint sales. Very few sales reps are excited about the platform.

I have one friend that bought a wp7, focus I think, and he hates it. I keep saying wait for the update, but the update is missing features he wants. The sad thing is they are features that are easily to implement. missing feattures is a whole differnt thread, but he just wants the ability to group his apps kinda like the contacts can be grouped now. The letter search is not a good approach because that requires me to search by name instead of function.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Pikkuhannu:
I have SGS and Optimus 7.

Almost every app, that i use in android i can use in wp too.

Only problem, for now, i can't buy apps yet, but that will be fixed when marketplace opens in Finland.

Soon nothing won't keep me on android. :)

There is so much trash apps on android market, so it is hard to find really important apps.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sumunk:
Interesting thing here is that Windows offered pop cap games 100k to port PVZ onto their platform.

although they tried to purchase pop cap games for 5mil in the past but was refused.

its up to pop cap to decide on what price they wanna charge the game but microsoft should tell them to make it cheaper so more people will buy it instead of jailbreaking it.

which would you as a developer want

1. selling your games for cheaper so ppl can afford it and buy it.

or

2. people jailbreak the phone then they dont have to pay diddly squat for your software.

jailbreaking isnt really a crime but its also unfair to the developers but if thats what you charge for your apps then you cant blame the public for doing it.

look seriously microsoft has alot to make up in their marketing department, maybe they just think theyre such a big company they dont have to care about the users because they have "dedicated" users already but thats like only 5 - 10% of the population im not basing it on real stats im just using it as an example.

wouldnt they want to hit more of the market.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sumunk:
@pikkuhannu

im sorry but your saying there is alot of trash apps on android?

have you seen the windows marketplace?

its the exact same thing there is also alot of trash apps on marketplace.

every os will have trash apps and with the way things are going with wp7 its going to be like android and iphone hundred and thousands of apps with lots of them that are "trash"

some homebrew apps are good but microsoft has decided that they will put what they want on marketplace on what they see fit.

for example flashlight using the LED light instead of screen is a fantastic app and im sure that 99% of the wp7 community will agree with me. who the hell wants to use their screen as a flashlight? first of all its not that bright and secondly i feel like a douche using my screen as a flashlight.

even though HTC has the app themselves the person who homebrewed his own flashlight app was a genius and thats an app id gladly pay 99c to 1.99c

CAUSE ITS USEFUL!
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...the HTC Mozart has a Xenon Flash and no LED lights. So this kind of app would be useless...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sumunk:
@FTC

ermmm are you serious? is that what you really wanna post? Xenon flashlight, LED flashlight app is kinda the same thing isnt it? just a different globe.... you might wanna read what im trying to say before you go spouting those questions....

as long as it doesnt use the "screen" as a flashlight app which is what im trying to point out...

why would i wanna use a screen flashlight app where it goes all white and sets to brightest that costs like 0.99c, why dont i just rather open a blank word document and put my screen brightness to the highest...
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...you want to use the LED/Flash on the back of your device as an electric torch, correct? The HTC Mozart has a Xenon flash which only produces a flash and not a continuous stream of light like a LED can do.... ok?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ziko:
"Almost every app that i use in Android, i CAN use in wp too"

You are writing that the Android market is full of trash, right?

And you find every (trash)-App on WP Marketplace too, right?

Ergo, at the moment all WP Apps are trash, because the Android ones are so, right?

Lets speak of serious companys, not the HOBBY developers who in 15 mminutes with the KLICK-KLACK Microsoft Kit "develop" another ****ty Candle, Kompass,.... and flood the Marketplace with another useless App.

Where is Navigon?

Where is iGO?

Where are the big Game Studios?

Where are the poeple who presentet the big things for Windows Mobile 6.x ????

DEAD???

No, sure NO...

I think that the OS WP have to much restrictions and serious programmer, not "developer" floating around, wont spend the time to even try to make a good App.

The Marketplace is flooded with useless, cheap and worthless, so called, Apps and serious programmer cant see a way to earn money with publishing their progs at Marketplace.

Similar to the Android Marketplace, any hobby-"developer" post his useless **** on the net and waits to earn 1 Billion US$, at least.

Poeple, thats the wrong way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Windows platform was in the past at an higher level, for serious user, business user, user with money, keep that in your mind "developer"!!!!!

The kids are playing around with the old Java Games, Apps and all possible **** on the old Nokias, Samsungs and so on. Remember the "Nokia-Java-Market" ??

Millions of progs, cheap, mostly useless for serious daily use, yes for kids great.

And where is now the Java based Market gone?

DEAD

Nokia want to change to WP.

Why??

Nokia phones was more for kids and why is now Nokia going to WP, OH YEAAAHHH, you are RIGHT.....TO EARN MONEY!!!!

That indikates to me that WP is going a terrible wrong way, not the kids pay money for the progs, they go to PPC-Warez, but the serious user, the Buisnissman, the Highsociety, the Company owner arround the corner, poeple who have money and are willing to pay that money for good apps.

Can WP satisfy the need for an seriously usable Prog for my Carmechaniker at the other side of my street???

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

...and NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!

And now, happy "developing" and count your earned money good.....
[Windows Phone 7 General] ziko:
Torch?

Candle?

Compass?

Is there anything worth 1.99$ ??

Only Navigon for me and they have stopped at the moment development for WP7.

The last chance was Mango for WP7...and that chance is gone for the really developer companies.

In old times, Bill Gates has programmed his DOS in a garage.

Today Billy have much money.

The American Dream, one lonely programme (cowboy) makes the big deal in his garage (horse) and is over night incredible rich.

WOW...

Lets stop dreaming...

...and begin to work (WORK, really WORK) on a prog ( so called APP, why is it called APP and no more Program?)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sumunk:
@FTC

then i guess its not a FLASHLIGHT app and if its called that then htc should consider changing the name, why would i wanna use a flashlight tool that doesnt give me a continous stream of light, i mean if im looking for something and my light keeps going on and off wouldnt you get pissed off.. thats not what a flashlight does.

once again read what i am saying please, i am saying that apps like using the proper pieces of the phone to do what the users want is a PROPER APP, using other places that isnt that bright and eats away at our battery is just a useless app. why would you wanna pay for an app that uses your screen as a flashlight instead of a LED LIGHT!

im saying that id rather pay for those apps which i consider useful instead of having lots of useless apps that "developers" put up in an hour....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sumunk:
@FTC

i think you and me have a misunderstanding.

flashlight and torch are the same thing just different say depending on which country your from.

im not using the LED as a flash like camera flash but instead a torch/flashlight which is a continous stream of light

straightened out me and you have no more to reply to each other :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...yes and this is why I am trying to tell you that this feature is not possible on a HTC Mozart because on the back of the phone is no LED light but a Xenon flash...

A Xenon flash light can't provide a continuous stream of light... you also can't use it for taking videos....
[Windows Phone 7 General] FTC:
...you have some nice navigation apps like

- Navigate (free in Germany with T-Mobile)

- GPS Navigator aSpass (Turn by turn and voice)

- Turn By Turn Navigation

- Nokia will start their navigation-service with Mango

...and I am sure the "big boys" will follow in a near future. Too many of the "big"

developer companies bragged only a year ago that they were not interested in WP7 and in the meantime lot of them are already doing good business in the Marketplace. They just follow the sweet sound of money....

...I am just missing 1 app from my WM6.5 area.. all the others are in the Marketplace and most of them are of a much better quality than under WM...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Live2Follow:
It seems that I cannot set the AOSP wallpapers on my galaxy tab. I like them very much, and the samsung ones are complete garbage. I am particularly miffed I cannot set them to the lock screen.

I tried a search and have come up empty, can someone point me in the right direction?

EDIT: I didn't look hard enough, go through Gallery
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tysj:
I ended up searching for the stock honeycomb wallpapers on google to download and copied them onto the tablet. To use them as lockscreen wallpaper, I went into to gallery app and set as>lockscreen
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] HawaiianLaker:
Also love them.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bbeelzebub:
I notice under "wallpaper", it shows them as being in the gallery, but the only one that comes up when I click on it is the one I put there. However, I distinctly see the blades of grass as if it is in the folder.
[Nexus S General] eliassami5:
Just got an email from Samsung that said they have the car dock back in stock so if anyone was waiting for one go and get one quick.
[Nexus S General] mikeyinid:
where do you get it?
[Nexus S General] krohnjw:
Thanks. Grabbed one.
[Nexus S General] krohnjw:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-V1A3BEGSTA
[Nexus S General] brokentoaster24:
Bought one at best buy a while ago, quickly returned it. Car mode didn't automatically launch and the 4g model is a pain to take out of the dock

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S General] derekwilkinson:
http://www.brodit.com/brodit.html?pn=home

I have one in my 9-3 and it works great. It gives you a lot more options for mounting.
[Nexus S General] krohnjw:
1 NFC tag and it will :)
[Nexus S General] brokentoaster24:
That's why I returned it, bought some nfc chips and a generic car mount for far cheaper :)

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S General] krohnjw:
Generic mounts never seem to fit as well and are unnecessarily bulky for me. I see your point though if you don't mind their size / form factor.
[Nexus S General] johnvicencio:
I love this dock it's only $49.99 (I saw it here).
[Nexus S General] rillo561:
Bought this @ Best Buy a few weeks ago and I like it. Very sturdy and comes with a car charger.
[Nexus S General] 4redstars:
You could just use this one for 8.99 and from Kensington.

I've used it with my previous phone (EVO) and the Nexus S 4G, also have had random other similarly sized electronics in it (Ipod) and it works perfectly

Comes with a window mount and a vent mount...

http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-K3...BEV4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1309444015&sr=8-7
[Nexus S General] eliassami5:
the car dock mode didnt launch on the 4g, so i tried a regular magnet on the back of the phone to see if it the phone could even auto launch the car dock and no luck. That's a bummer but i always exited out of the car dock mode on my original droid so i dont think ill miss it.

Where can you buy a single NFC chip? i see packs of them on amazon but i only really need a couple
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] M4ceman:
Pretty much exactly what the title says. I have Yuki's v4 lang 2 WP7 Rom installed, as well as Rafdroid's android SD build on my SD card. I would like to update to Yuki's v5 lang 2, but I don't want to do that if it's going to mean I have to reinstall WP7 and Rafdroids SD build losing everything because that takes forever and I don't want to lose all of my data. So if anyone knows how to do this without having to repartition the drives please point me in the right direction :)! Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Bolocho:
I was sort of wondering the same thing. This is something I want to try: Install the new ROM with no SD card on the phone, then factory reset and put the SD card back on while in magldr... I think it should work just like when resizing the wp7 partition to dual boot Android... but don't know for sure... Yet!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] M4ceman:
That might work, but I have a feeling when you flash without the SD card, some problems are likely to occur. That or when you put the SD card back in after flashing a new WP7, it might re-partition the drives to FAT16 and unallocated. I'll give it a go, because I'm going to put a new SD build on my card anyways, I'll let you know how it turns out.

EDIT: Nope that didn't work, it re-partitioned the drive just like I thought it would.

Anybody got any more ideas for other people to try?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] hjgolfman:
idk if this will work, but if you have a spare sd card, flash it with that in it then put in the old one
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] soapbox23:
I've also heard you can copy the partitions to a separate drive (such as a separate SD or USB hard drive) and then copy them back after you've reinstalled the WP7 ROM, however it didn't work for me (I'm using Xbmod v 1.11 NoDo). WP7 kept saying "Your storage card has changed, please format or replace blah blah" something like that.

You can try it but I would suggest just doing it the long way as you know it'll work, and you're less prone to make mistakes once you get it down (after wasting HOURS of making mistakes, I can reflash a windows ROM and re-partition everything including putting my Android build back in under 15 mins
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
I know it will take time before we get a clear answer but do YOU think this phone will have it's bootloader unlocked or some kind of work around?
[HTC Sensation] broncogr:
I think S-off will come by HTC in the next couple of weeks
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
I hope so!! This phone would be amazing rooted. So cyanogen can get their hands on it :P
[HTC Sensation] El Daddy:
I heard tomorrow. :-)
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
proof or it didn't happen :P
[HTC Sensation] MxFadzil92:
yeah agree on that too ! :p
[HTC Sensation] Towle:
Exactly. HTC said customers would be first to know, so I guarantee if/when it happens, it will be posted on their official Facebook page.
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
blasphemy :d
[HTC Sensation] MxFadzil92:
which is that i myself doubt that the bootloader will be unlocked... eventually if it would be unlocked it may not be very soon... coz of the evo 3D and i guess htc flyers too ? 3 different devices... that's just my opinion
[HTC Sensation] platinumandroid:
Tomorrow???Well wouldn't that be sweet!!!
[HTC Sensation] GorillaPimp:
I could see HTC examining the costs and just bullshitting for awhile and then saying it would take too long so here's a $25 gift card for our ****ty music/video store.
[HTC Sensation] ameilius:
i hope its soon....

dont get me wrong, sense 3 is nice etc.. but some things about it really get on my nerves - i like plain old android with a mix of CM goodies...
[HTC Sensation] GorillaPimp:
yeah i could live with Sense 3 if the memory mgmt was patched so Sense wasn't reloading all the time.
[HTC Sensation] Slash8915:
I really just want to overclock the damn thing.
[HTC Sensation] chchang1:
It'll burn your hands...
[HTC Sensation] MxFadzil92:
lols... true ! :p:p
[HTC Sensation] noxPHX:
****, I want underclock it!

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] wallah:
Maybe one day, or year..... ;):p
[HTC Sensation] trill12:
Trolling. Hard.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
Hello,

does anyone know where can I purchase a USB Cable for my Galaxy S so that it could be detected by kies?

thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] jna9000:
The cable used is a standard Micro USB cable, nothing special.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] yoshi57:
Yes, any standard Micro USB cable work.

you can buy for less than $2 over Hong Kong site ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] cabessius:
Be careful, once I bought a couple of cheap cables for my SGS on eb.. and they resulted to be only good for charging (and the charge is really slow), no usb file transfer, no Odin,...
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Nivekius:
I use this one from dealextreme: http://goo.gl/qYLSz, "Genuine" Nokia CA-101. Works very well with well everything...
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

I bought a cable for £2, thought it was dirt cheap.

but looks like Samsung restricts usage of other cables on its phones. It doesn't allow the phone to be detected as a MTP device? or in Kies.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] picard782000:
I tried several different cables.

Never had any problems.

(original Samsung, Nokia, Moto, Nokia from.Dealextreme, cheap cables, Kindle,....)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] garbz:
I can't help but think this is blatantly false. I've even made my own micro-USB cable for my tests on battery charging and it still had zero problems.

The USB spec doesn't allow a device to discriminate on cables. If there was something different in the cable then it would affect the computer side as well.

Now on the other hand the USB connectors themselves are fragile as all heck. I've been through many failed cables over the years in both mini and micro USB cables. Chances are the cable itself is bad.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
The cable which I bought was good I think. It was charging, and I could connect it into USB mode. But I couldnt connect it into MTP mode.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beanchimp:
I don't think I have even used my Samsung cable that came with the phone, Im not even sure where it is now too LOL

I have a Nokia N900 too so I use that cable (Nokia CA-101) instead and everything works fine

Kies however is a completely different kettle of fish and has always been temperamental at the best of times, especially in Windows 7

Now I use Galnet MIUI Rom I no longer (thankfully) have to use Kies
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
anyone know where to get an official cable in the UK?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rico13:
ahhhhh wow looks good!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
Stop spamming dude?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] gangster429:
I bought cheap usb cable from ebay.

date transfer is really slow and somethimes it give's not dedected error.

So it's importand to buy goed one.

I use my old cable from samsung i8510 now at work
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] mucwendel:
I've bought 2 of these and they are working well.

I use them to stay permanently connected to my docking station in the 2 offices I'm working :-)

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250784404938&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spawnwj:
Anyone experiencing Whatsapp not working well in 1.6.24-MIUI-XJ?

I always get "Application Whatsapp is not responding" when I try to open or send messages. But if you click Wait a few times, it will manage to move on.

The whole experience is really really slow and laggy.

I have tried giving full permission in the Superuser, disable the superuser permission management but the problem is still there.

Any solutions? :confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] do0b:
i am getting this too. did u manage to fix it?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CandyBear:
I'm having the same problem, it's extremely slow and laggy. Constantly getting the warning whatsapp isn't responding, asking if i want to force close it or wait for respond. I always click on wait and after a half minute it moves on.

after a half hour doing this, whatsapp runs smooth... but its really annoying
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kmaq:
make sure your internet connecting is fine.

you can also try flashing the latest MIUI-XJ rom.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CandyBear:
re-installed whatsapp completely (remove data, remove app, clean cache, remove map from SD), even did a full wipe of the ROM. but doesn't solve a thing....

my internet connection is fine, other apps which need internet works fine.

So does anyone have any suggestions? :confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vipw:
Got that same on 1.12.2 (long waits, "wait more", no push messages).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CandyBear:
after reading the MIUI Thread about the whatsapp problems, it seems the most people with MIUI X-part have the problem.

Also when installed whatsapp, I got the warning that custom ROMS are not supported by whatsapp.

I didn't got this warning when i was on the GingerVillian ROM:confused:

So is it MIUI X-part? is it the SD card that gives the problem? :confused: