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[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
Sense doesn't utilize 500 mb in idle state, I guarantee you this. Be patient, change the launcher, the phone is still great stock. I assure you it's better than SGS2 with the god awful Samsung software, their developers can't write decent firmware for their amazing hardware.
[HTC Sensation] MaxReality:
Apparently the GS2 makes you fail your CRB check. Sensation is holier than thou, and any other thoughts is herecy.
[HTC Sensation] tigerz0202:
Ahh cyan. Good quadrants and crappy GPS ....no thanks ill wait it out
[HTC Sensation] pr0x2:
I got now at idle all programs stopped: 437mb used 121free.

Can you report what you got?
[HTC Sensation] mancuk29:
Ive got a sg s2 and its just about to go back to amazon as ive had two faulty handsets .... The kies software that u have to use to update the phones firmware is buggy as hell ... If you transfer stuff from kies to nemory card it probably wont work (i have tried to transfer videos twice) the data connection is buggy ... Dont get me wrong its a superb handset but till they sort out kies and other issyes im coming back to htc snd just ordered sensation
[HTC Sensation] Xaroth:
free != available

free means not used.

in the used section you should probably have something telling you how much is used for buffers.. add that amount up to the amount free and you should get the real amount of available ram.

also, did you install other apps, are you using widgets.. info info info.
[HTC Sensation] jpbl1976:
Your comment is irresponsible: do you even haven an SGSII? I have both the Sensation AND the SGSII. I can tell you this: TouchWiz 4.0 is light years better than Sense 3.0. It runs quite smoothly --I didn't even bother installing LauncherPro, which is what I'd done on my 5 other Android phones (the Milestone, the Desire Z, the SGS, the Xperia Arc and the LG Optimus 2X) -- and TW4 certainly doesn't take up as much memory bandwidth as Sense 3.0 does.

Also, you're saying: "be patient with the Sensation, just put a new launcher because SGSII's UI is crap." Ummm... you can also change TouchWiz 4.0, if you want! "Crappy" UI solved.

Please don't jump to conclusions based on stuff you just read somewhere (it pays not to take everything at face value) or because you had a bad experience with another device from the same manufacturer. Also, if you really have a jones for a particular device, just say it. We don't advice that borders on blatant fanboy-ism here. We get enough of that from the Apple fanboys on Engadget.

Anyway, in response to the OP: I have few complaints with the SGSII so far, which is more than I can say for the Sensation. To be sure, the Sensation's build quality is wonderful, it feels solid in hand, in contrast with the build of the SGSII, which feels a bit flimsy -- and I can see the attraction of the Sense 3.0 lockscreen. I am very partial to the stock lockscreen and stock widgets, which is why I've stuck with SenseUI even though it's still too rough.

Meanwhile, the Sensation's display looks washed out and the main Sense 3.0 launcher jitters between screens. Its one bright spot is that, because of its higher resolution, text looks great. That said, higher resolution or otherwise, the Sensation's display can't hold a candle to the SGSII's Super AMOLED Plus display. Heck, the Sensation's display isn't even as good as the SGS's!

What's more, you'd think HTC would have made it possible to customize the functionality of the right and left launcher buttons by now. Instead, we're stuck with that ridiculous "personalize" button. I have no idea why they won't allow customization of those two buttons. I really hope they provide a way to unlock the device's bootloader soon.

Meanwhile -- and like I've already said -- TouchWiz 4.0 actually runs very smoothly. In real world usage on my SGSII, it's about as smooth as LauncherPro, which surprised me quite a bit. Up until I'd gotten the SGSII, I'd made it a habit to buy LPPro Plus for each of my devices. Not anymore. Also, you can customize the app drawer and arrange the apps to suit your preferences. Likewise, many of the stock widgets can be resized. It's a huge improvement that's been implemented by Samsung and they deserve some recognition for that, not derision.

If I had to choose between the 2 devices, I'd definitely go with the SGS. Really, about the only area where HTC is better is how solidly it's built. This isn't to say the Sensation is a bad device -- it's my 2nd favorite android device after the SGSII (and is certainly MUCH better than the O2X) -- it's just that it leaves too much to be desired.
[HTC Sensation] pr0x2:
I have installed apps (23 of them) and I only use the htc clock/weather flip clock. My last phone had only 350mb ram and always got 200 free. That's why I hate so much on htc sense.
[HTC Sensation] gewit:
HI..i can report you,that idle when all running stopped Free 231 Mb
[HTC Sensation] MxFadzil92:
me too thinking of swithing to galaxy s II... firstly bad about this phone is that whenever i use the web browser or just play usual games like angry birds the phone gets hotter... secondly of the speaker on sensation phone is too soft people call me i can barely hear it is ringing... and of course the locked bootloader... that's just my opinion on this phone... and the touchscreen lag... at times... :)
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
What's the point of asking this question in the Sensation forum? Obviously people will take offense. Ask it in the SGSII forum if you want to reaffirm your decision or whatever.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
Nice point! We all know that the guys in the SGS2 forum are going to be very objective! /sarcasm
[HTC Sensation] Mafiatounes:
Hi i own a Sgs 2 for one month and i just bought me a Sensation as a second phone, my personal opinion is that the Sgs 2 is much better than the sensation in terms of speed/smoothness throughout the whole software, Tw 4.0 vs Sense 3.0, video codec support, Battery life, Camera, Super Amoled Plus vs Slcd, Speaker volume, More Stable. The sensation wins in the design department (for me), Heavier (feels better) and thats my personal opinion cheers
[HTC Sensation] Hoggles:
+1

If the OP has "HATE...PURE HATE" for sense....why on earth would you buy it?

I don't buy things I hate..... Just some personal advice ;)

Plus if you didn't know it had a locked bootloader, then with all due respect, you didn't do any research before you made a big purchase.
[HTC Sensation] ereader:
buhahaha that was funny!
[HTC Sensation] Istarth:
First....

Sense is not only UI.... Contacts / Mail / Messages / Weather / SW Tweaks / Notifications / Exchange integration (company work) ........ Are between... mmmm.... let's say 2 or 3 million times better than samsung or stock sw....

This is far better than SGS2 in terms of usability... and really close in the rest....

Second....

My Sense FLY...

Third....

Is up to everybody to buy one thing or another.... 99% of the people with the sensation are really happy... and If U have the last rom it runs even better (fast fast fast...)

Fourth....

Smooth effect != Fast....

For example

Case 1:

- Press button

- Instant WOW !!! Effect

- 4 secs

- App opened

Total 4 secs + a WOW !!

Case 2:

- Press button

- Simpler effect or no effect (1 sec)

- Instant App opened

Total 1 secs + no WOW !!

Fifth....

<< HTC Sensation > Sensation General > Switch to SGS2? >>

¿?¿?¿?¿?¿ .....
[HTC Sensation] jacktheripher:
ah

I heard that touch wiz becomes very buggy and the phone cant handle rom well, probably just rumors though.
[HTC Sensation] pr0x2:
I have had 3 android HTC phones and they all came with sense, and unlocked bootloader.

I never used the original UI because I hate it. I am on XDA because I like modding my phone otherwise what is the point being here at all?

oh and I got the phone for free with my 2 year contract.

Thanks for the warm welcome to the sensation forum guys, I really feel at home already... *sigh*
[HTC Sensation] steve austin:
do you...

Hey, don't get discouraged. I am an htc fan and I am sure I am going to get roasted for stating "my" opinion about a phone "i" paid for on an "open" forum so here goes... No matter how far advanced the Samsungs phone gets the don't get timely updates (a big no no) and the are too light and plastic feeling in my pocket and hands. I have no record of the phones breaking, but it is a personal preference that is a deal breaker "for me." So the Sg2 won't be in my future.

On the flip side, i have the sensation. It is a decent phone. I am loyal to companies that I buy products from so they definitely get repeat business from me. However, when I feel slighted I have "the right" to voice my opinion and refuse a new business partnership.

With that said I am very disappointed in the effort HTC has put into the Sensation. Not only do the significant specs pale in comparison to the SG2, but the Evo 3D beats it in RAM, Battery and internal memory. How is that possible when they both came out at the same time - from the same company? and the Sensation is the flagship? Don't poop in a bowl, stick a spoon in it, and tell its pudding - its not. Now, as i just found out, the new MyTouch is touted by htc, as having the BEST features of any smart phone on the market. I am a camera phone freak. That is saying something to me. That is a "flagship" feature. They could not have built that into the Sensation?!? And don't get me started on the bootloader.

With that said, I am leaning towards taking the Sensation back and crossing my fingers that they will realize their error and come out with a more advanced phone at the end of the year (with an open bootloader out the box). Sort of like how they did with the hd2 and the hd7. I could be wrong, but by that time, hopefully, the phone will be unlocked.

No one is going to tell you to pick the rival phone over the groups choice, its up to you ultimately. Just go with how YOU feel about the device. my .02 cents.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Wrong about internal memory. Both phones have 4 GB of internal storage, but the user can only access 1 GB. And bigger battery doesn't automatically mean better battery life. They obviously put in a bigger battery because of the 3D capabilities it has. Why don't you mention the things the Sensation beats the EVO 3D in...I can name a few. Aluminum unibody, thinner profile, and 1080p video recording.
[HTC Sensation] pocketAM:
I've got HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy S 2 ..

My suggestion is to find a third device .. both are epic fail ..

HTC Sensation has single core performance, locked bootloader, WiFi issue, etc. Samunsg Galaxy S 2 a long list of issue and bug (screen issue, poor construction, a lot of heat in browsing, etc ) ...

These are HTC and Samsung top smartphone .. wow ..

I return to my Nexus One .. much better .. :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] DazzXP:
I just got my HTC sensation thursday evening and have been playing with it over the last couple of days and am really liking it.

I ordered it like 2 months ago on T-Mobile(UK) and after hearing a few negitives was going to cancel. Completly forgot about it and wednesday night got a text message it was sent out. Was going to send it right back but thought hey might as well play with it a bit, hearing that T-Mobile locks their phones thought no harm in putting my Orange Sim card in, works so i take it that it's fully unlocked then. No T-Mobile branding at all either. Takes an Age to charge however as i was planning on sending it back am currently using my Samsung charger and cables. The Samsung Headset is far better then HTC's anyway, perfer inear headsets.

I have a Galaxy S which was really sluggish but got much better over time with the newer roms. But one thing i hate about it was flash player in browser, you have to buffer videos other wise it was jurky as hell be it 360 or 480p. Some video would crash the browser too if the videos are to long.

The Sensation plays videos 720p smooth was shocked when i saw 480p running smooth while buffering so throught what the hell 720p and again smooth no diffrence in performance.

So am thinking of keeping it, like sence but indiffrent from TouchWiz. One thing that angers me is Swipe on HTC, it only works in emails and text messages and is completly inaccrute. Samsung's version was a hundred times better.
[HTC Sensation] Ny88:
I am on my 2nd Sensation and will be getting my third on Monday, as I can't get a signal, in areas with low 2G reception (at work), the signal is non existant, I get a better signal at home, but it still drops when I hold the phone.

Right about now I am back to using my X10i, I did a test this morning to see the signal difference between the two handsets from my desk at work (poor reception area) and the Sensation read -101dB 7asu whilst the X10i read -89bBm 12asu. this involved just leaving the phone on my desk and not touching it.

I have hardly used it in the week that I have owned it and I have been advised that if the 3rd one doesn't work. I can exchange it for an equivalent phone, which I guess will be the Galaxy S2. It's a real shame becasue I like the build quality and the interface on the sensation. :(
[HTC Sensation] intruda119:
You know both sensation and sgs2 can play 720p flash video easily. Both 1080p off a strong connection. This is one of the pros for sgs2 and there browser. Its known to be a had bit faster.

The original sgs2 had its problems. But besides both bring iphone clones there's not a whole lot of negatives.
[HTC Sensation] DeezNotes:
You know, the version of Swype you're referring to doesn't belong to Samsung. It is a stand-alone product, so it can be installed on any phone: http://swypeinc.com/
[HTC Sensation] tigerz0202:
add 8mp camera to that
[HTC Sensation] dizx:
Hey Everybody, first, my apologies if there are other threads on this, but this is the one I found discussing both the Sensation and SGSII.

I am thinking of jumping over to T-Mobile from AT&T for the lower rates and theoretically the better signal performance in my locations of high use.

Currently have the Samsung Captivate, so that's why I am thinking of using the SGS2, but is it fully compatible with the T-Mobile network?

Does the SGS2 have the wi-fi calling feature that the Sensation has?

I really liked how the Sensation looked and felt when I played with it at the T-Mobile store.

If I jump to the Sensation, I will have to start learning about the new terminologies in these threads. LOL.
[HTC Sensation] DazzXP:
Yeah i know but's still better then the version that comes on the Sensation.

Well registered at the site and got to download Swipe, much better the HTC's Trace, thanks for the link.

Yea i know the GS2 is the better phone internals wise but i was getting sick of the all plastic feel, my GS is still a damn good phone and is fairly smooth. I wanted something that looks nice and at the same time functional, which is where the Sensation comes in. I am starting to like Sence UI now too.
[HTC Sensation] joon82:
Just remember sgs2 gets hot too. Its even hotter than sensation.

Hell it gets hot surfing web and music.

Sense 3 feels slower than my desire hd running 2.0.

I get about 200 free memory from sensation and about 580 free memory on sgs2.

Big difference in number but u can not feel difference between them because im running launcher pro in both phones.

Sense 3.0 looks good but its too slow and takes up too much mem.
[HTC Sensation] johnsonrod27:
Wow are you wrong
[HTC Sensation] swiftinmotion:
Im not even going to read these replies. You have "PURE HATE" for HTC Sense but you buy a HTC device.. You must be retarded
[HTC Sensation] HashTagHell:
We have to find a common respect for all devices, even those that we don't own. The Sensation isn't even old enough to have so many people hating it. I don't care what device you own, I only hate iOS. Seriously, when you purchase a device you know if it runs, Sense, Touchwiz, etc. Doesn't make "sense" to claim you hate the UI that the phone you "researched" (I'm sure you researched it) before buying came with.
[HTC Sensation] DSF:
Any moderator here?

Many have bought Galaxy S due it's power even they hated the "TouchWizz" interface

Why SGS 2 TouchWizz 4 sucks?

- you can grab screenshoots without aditional 3rdparty apps with Home + power button

- you have fast connectivity control in notification bar

- interesting widget customization

- preview folders

- folders in app drawer

- sort your app as you like (app drawer)

- helicopter view in app drawer and homescreen. you can move pages as you like it, even in app drawer

- fast slide in app drawer & homescree (slide or click in the page numbers area)

- smart brightness control: slide horizontally on the status bar

- smartdial (t9 style) dialing support

- integration of music player, radio in notification system (can next/prev directly from there).

- etc

Now that really sucks, isn't it?

Com'on, where HTC Sense wins is the eye-candy flavor and the possibility to customize skins.

@pr0x2 regarding SGS 2 build quality, I actually like it. It doesn't crank,squeeze, etc. It feels solid in hand. Also, I like the design (even if the form factor is a copy of iPhone4 :P)

cons:

- the screen has a yellowish tent on left.. it can be felt on gray backgrounds, otherwise it is not sesizable

- banding on gradients (this may be a SW issue)

- background static noise when listening thru 3.5mm jack (tried with standard earbuds and car)

- poor sound quality (in comparison with galaxy s)

- flat speakerphone

- overheat if CPU is used intensely (a game got stuck in background at ~50%+ CPU while charging the phone resulting 55 C). when browsing (via Wifi) is like 37 C. when browsing (via Wifi) and charging 44 C. When gaming (intensive games) and charging: ~48- 50 C. Battery temperatures with Elixir

- card is not hot-swapable

- camera is not that powerful with default settings. I mean, by stock settings (without changing something in exposure, ISO, etc) the quality of pics are not that good when there is bright day

- colors are over saturated.. the images become darker. I prefer the contrast of SGS1 somehow.. Hope a SW for contrast control will appear

- android limits

pro:

- fast, fast, fast!

- plenty of free RAM avaiable for you

- powerful Dual-Core Cortex A9 CPU and Mali400 GPU

- full hd (1020p) adobe flash playback in browser

- wide support for video formats by stock: mkv, divx, xvid, etc etc

- touchwizz 4

- very good display: SuperAMOLED+: no more pentile, great blacks, good angles visibility, good outdoor visibility (100% brightness), even on sunny days it's better than the competition

- good amount of internal storage ~2GB for your apps, 11.50GB for what you want

- USB host support

So, OP you decide if you should take the SGS2 or not. I for sure don't regret the decision for choosing SGS2 and not the Sensation :).

@steve austin: SGS1 got OFFICIALLY updates for 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.3.4 (the last one I think is in leak mode ATM).

Also for SGS2 there are plenty of updates available (leaks).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 (I have KE2)
[HTC Sensation] :
I have both phones in front of me right now, ask me anything, I love both but for me Sensation is so much a superior device in most aspects.
[HTC Sensation] Beefheart:
Good post, with exceptions of the following.

- My screen doesn't have the yellow on the left, although I know it's an issue on a lot of GS2 phones, including my friend's handset. It's not a universal issue.

- CPU overheat is overstated, of course it will happen, but no more than other dualcore CPU devices including the Sensation and Atrix.

- The gradients are definitely a software issue rather than a hardware one, I tried out the beta version of MIUI and the colour gradients are smooth and perfect (although the colours are less vibrant and more washed out in comparison to stock. Some people prefer this though.)
[HTC Sensation] DSF:
@Pagnell thanks. About the gradients, yeah I've read that there were present in other phones too and were fixed by a SW update.

Can you please detail your post? I think it's fair to know why "is so much a superior device in most aspects", otherwise you're post is null (lack of essence). Sorry.
[HTC Sensation] Miguel-:
I've got a Sensation and I've got a HSPA problems at home when connected the antenna that has best reception. I see "H" but no data downwards (is there any good soft for debugging this or a program to switch HSPA to 3G?). Anyways I have a SGS2 arriving at the end of july. I'm not sure that did I do the right. My operator suggested that I should try a other phone, because atleast my wifes Nokia works fine here.

Im having a hard time convincing myself to that Im doing the right thing espesially when were on edge of getting it to fly. My Sensation doesnt have the touchscreen problem but I see sometimes WIFI disconnect when holding the phone "wrong". Why there isnt a toggle switch to turn 3g on and off (yep, its an android flaw but still)....

Questions for those having both (they might be answered allready but still):

Hows the battery when using alike? Im getting through a full day with 2-2.5 hrs of display

Is the RAM difference that big of a deal?

Hows audio output compared to each other (with tweaks)?

Camera compared (with all tweaks available)?

I checked the displays at store and didnt see that much difference between them (didnt have much time to do that but a quick check didnt tell me which is better)..

I think that in my perspective these phones goe like this:

Sensation:

- better build quality (My /accidential/ droptest was from ~1m to a ceramic tile without a scratch on it)

- aesthetically better for the eye (and suprisingly unnoticeable in pocket)

- screens quite alike but maby better current consumption on SGS2 (dont know for sure)

- sensation 3.0 feels nice

- alot of developers working for making it good (havent been on android before this and dont know which devs are the current "leaders")

SGS2:

- More RAM (but as I asked -is this a big of a deal)

- has alot of internal memory

- the screens power consumption is better (might be)

- a bit thinner but I think that this doesnt affect that much for me

- a faster processor / gpu (I think that Sensation is fast enough -and it will be faster in a while so not so huge again)

- might work @3G in my home (not so sure about this)

- Rooted and custom ROMs available already
[HTC Sensation] kabuk1:
It's actually dual-core, and the BL is about to be unlocked probably any day now, either by devs or by HTC themselves(another reason I'm an HTC fangirl, they actually listen to what their customers want). I don't know about the wifi issue as I have not experienced it(probably because I use a case). I do not have the SGS2 so I can't comment on it, but I hardly think either device is an "epic fail" :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] :
Hardware wise both devices are unique and stunning.

Ok huge flaw for me in SGS2 is the horrible Home button, feels very crappy to press and looks like darn Apple phone! Now in saying that the UI of SGS2 is just ok but is extremely fast right though the OS. Touchwiz is as always, crap! However, it runs very well and very fast. Camera and video are also very very good. At least that is the inital perspective, upon furthur analysis I had many issues starting with PC sync to Gmail sync, it simply does not sync nicely like other Android or WM devices. All in all GS2 is awesome but is lacking something at the same time.

My first impressions of Sensation was one of apprehension, after owning DHD I was quite worried about build quality. surprisingly Sensation is a real feat of engineering (not easy to open, yet very cleverly designed) the back cover is also the entire housing. Comparing UI's Sense vs Touchwiz HTC have it hands down, SGS2 UI is pathetic to say the least! whereas htc has complete integration right through the OS, consistent and enjoyable. Sensation is not as snappy or fast as SGS2 nor is browsing nearly as fast and yeah sgs2 has alot more free ram as well as rom. I still prefer Sensation!