yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] laill:
Yeah, in the view of SE, 2.6.29.6,a old kernel implemented the tethering function is then a new kernel...
[XPERIA X10 General] FallenOut:
Lets hope it will arrive on time. And the xperia10 link that was posted about ten pages back. The comments make for funny reading
[XPERIA X10 General] JuaNMaN:
One day less... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
For?

I thought the update is rolling out in early August
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
hehe one day less, not one day left ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] aR_ChRiS:
Blame my reading! :(
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
And 17 more to go.
[XPERIA X10 General] laill:
I hope by the time I already have my new notebook:D

cheers,

L
[XPERIA X10 General] G-FACE:
Haha, and I hope by that time i'll have my new Android netbook (a.k.a the Transformer) :D
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Am I wrong or did the 2.1 update on at&t have a different size kernel than before, which would hint that when SE said that "we cannot remove bootloader on x10 as there is a risk of bricking phone." Was that perhaps a lie as they have already changed a kernel but just kept same number.

Sorry I'm not a dev so I may sound a bit foolish here, or is there logic to my thinking?

So the rumour that bootloader will be unlocked is not an impossibility.

Edit: I remember flashing basband 65 and everyone was saying kernel was different?
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
I think you have a couple things confused. The bootloader is a security measure that restricts us from loading a custom kernel, not SE. The bootloader is not part of the kernel.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Gottcha, I always thought that this may be the case but always got impression that kernel was bootloader itself. Never really asked the question to anyone till now

Cheers for info
[XPERIA X10 General] brent0r:
speaking of bootloader, what actually eneded up happening with maxfrons efforts? Was the whole thing a big load of **** or what. Seems like it just disappeared all of a sudden..

Didnt one of them say that they had one of our devs (Z?) helping to get it running?

From what Ive gathered considering there's no topic on it is that maxfron was lieing.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
It was a bunch of bs
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
Be careful not to swear. I have an infraction for it which i fully accept as i did swear a lot.

Anyway back on topic. Im not sure what maxrfon said was true. A few of us members dont because he proved nothing and like you said has dissapeared. He was just trying to make another user jealous. Hopefully it is true and he has unlocked it so we can debelop more things for our phones but personnaly i think we are still a long way yet.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
I don't believe it is as simple as true or false.

It's all theoretical at this point. The SIM unlocking procedure "in theory" must unlock the bootloader in order to unlock the SIM. So that means it could be possible to modify the procedure to crack the bootloader in a way that is useful to us.

At least that is what I understand...
[XPERIA X10 General] zdzihu:
This is a very good post :)

Cheers,

z
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Hello z. R u working on the bootloader? Can u confirm its been unlocked

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Mayazcherquoi:
The bootloader is what loads the system with the appropriate kernel. For example, there's the GRUB bootloader, an open-source alternative popular among many FOSS enthusiasts running Linux/BSD variants (or "flavours"). :)
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
That means alot coming from you. Love your work. Thanks for all your efforts.
[XPERIA X10 General] zdzihu:
I am not working on the bootloader - I was merely helping, but due to some circumstances, I am no longer involved in this.

I can confirm it's possible to unlock the bootloader, but currently it's beyond my knowledge how to do this, so I'm waiting for the fellow developer(s) to deliver :)

In fact, the procedure is exactly the same. It's about flashing the bootloader signed with custom keys.

The only problem is I don't have such signed bootloader. But I'm sure some people do :)

Cheers,

z
[XPERIA X10 General] dipanzan:
z, by "some people do"- are you referring to maxfron/laser ?

If somehow you got hold of those custom keys, can you possibly unlock that damned bootloader ? :D

If there's anyway we can get you those custom keys or such, please inform us!

thanks for the info Z :)
[XPERIA X10 General] moritd:
Hope you get those code soon thx for info:))
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
so basically, those other guys threw a hissy fit?
[XPERIA X10 General] Mayazcherquoi:
@Forum Administrators/Moderators: Do you think it would be wise (well, more so "allowed") to advertise to other developers of similar hardware based devices for assistance?

Because, we are very close as stated by many developers.
[XPERIA X10 General] -- X10B --:
isnt it obvious that it was a marketing stage.. i hate people like that its so cruel, anyways but to reality.
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
Clearly marketing, max only talked about how many people he could attract to to that thread, its a same
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
i can can confirm the gb update will be early as my x10 wont charge and sending it back for repair which is gunna take 2 weeks so believe me the update will be early lol i am that unlucky!
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Someone has sent their device in with restart problems, and Telenor (Sweden) service center has put 2.3 on his device to stop it from restarting.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
noooo!

Can you confirm whether singapore is in one of the SEA countries? ;)

I don't want to wait :(

But I'm sure someone will upload to this site before.

But good news anyway, thanks for the update :)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Don't worry, singapore is one of the first places to get it actually. They're the HQ of SEA region afterall ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
Hey, don't forget Malaysia, we're are the closest to Singapore. :P Ok, that's awesome unknown13x, thanks for the news. Do you have any ideas on what things are changed, added, or removed from the firmware as of now?
[XPERIA X10 General] FelipeRRM:
Imagine if we get 4 perfect touch imput + 16M Colors + Unlocked Bootloader? There are some rumors and the SE Brazil statment =D
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
I assume Nordic will be one of the first also?
[XPERIA X10 General] MightyMuna:
seriously guys, just sell your X10. I've had my X10 for a year now and I just could not tolerate the lag fest it was any more. When they pushed the update to Aug, they pushed me to sell my phone. More so, when I watched the video of GB on X10, it was laggy as hell.

Seriously, SE is disgusting, X10 is a disaster, I will never buy another SE phone. Just bought a Nexus S 2 days ago, seriously guys, best decision ever. Forget SE, their glory days are over.
[XPERIA X10 General] riginal:
seriously dude you sold your X10 & still come here to troll & show-off your Nexus s? seriously dude get a life. What you saw was laggy? seriously dude it wasn't even the final thing & even if it was who cares? our great devs will do their magic wiht it, serously dude stick to nexus s forums & don't come here & post off-topic & useless posts, seriously dude
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
You shouldn't restore system settings from one android version to another

, settings database usually changes drastically.

Titanium Backup has an option to attempt to migrate the database correctly, but still no guarantees.

I did that when I updated from 1.6 to 2.1 and it was a disaster, had to reflash.

So, what I will probably do, is restore contacts with Google Sync and .vcf,

my SMS with Go SMS Pro, set up the phone and once we get root,

restore the most important apps with their data and reinstall others via Market or the apks

(that Astro Explorer can easily extract and restore them this way).
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
I don't recommend to restore all data once with TB, just do for the things you need. It can cause a bootloop when wrong things are being restored.
[XPERIA X10 General] zmthink:
HTC Desire is ready to update 2.3:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_gingerbread_nears_release_already_in_testing-news-2839.php

Let's see which one will get 2.3 sooner finally, though the announcement of X10 is way earlier.
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
Thx for summing up. Way better than following the old thread! +1

Can't wait for optimized GB!
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Hundreds of people have updated from branded 1.6 to generic 2.1 recently since March using my guide in the General section. I suggest MyBackup free edition since AT&T blocks us from the SE Backup and Restore app. It has been working without any problems.
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
Says the person who never had any experiences in debugging or testing softwares. Seriously, that's just a prototype of the firmware. In fact it's not even optimized yet. It's not in code freeze phase yet. New features are still being added and modified, so it's normal for it to be laggy.
[XPERIA X10 General] Hzu:
Wow, what are you racing for? You want SE to release the firmware earlier than HTC? Stop it, let the development team take their time and do their job, so that we can have a better and less buggy firmware.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
He shouldn't race I agree, SE firmwares were in my eyes always more stable then HTC their firmwares... With their old mobile phones then, like Desire. Sensation is quite nice, but Sense is just to heavy... Loading takes long, and it makes everything a bit laggier... Phone is very smooth and fast altough, but with a less heavy Sense it would be better.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I do not doubt that it does, I was just stating the facts and it is a fact that settings database structure usually differs between Android versions and the restore from a previous one could have unexpected results.

All I'm saying is that for something easily re-doable such as system settings, I wouldn't take the risk. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Are you talking about restoring data between Android versions with xRecovery?
[XPERIA X10 General] Lion3494:
Ughhhh. Its killing me to wait on this update. I need my multi touch and caps removed so I can play my games right

Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Windst:
I'm leaving my x10 for a nexus s...so im at no loss
[XPERIA X10 General] davelinders:
Knowing SE the speed is not really speed with their own created

timescape en mediascape and own features included.
[XPERIA X10 General] scanja500:
Someone? ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] -- X10B --:
great news, any link bout this. hope this person will post a video bout the gb update. and hope we could get the .sin files....
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I'll believe it when I see it, sick of disappointment
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Yep someone from Swedroid's X10 subforum.

It was posted yesterday.

It's in Swedish.

http://www.swedroid.se/forum/post662858-185/
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Since it's from a service center, it's probably an *.esa file they use, which we currently can't use for anything.

And since it's flashed from the service center there is no way of getting any *.sin files.
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
can still steal the libcamera from it tho cant we? cheers
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
oh of course, a random post with no pics or video, and incidentally we can't use any of the files.....

:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
He has not gotten it back yet, so ofcourse no pictures or video.

And how do you wanna use files he nor we have access to, as it's done at a service center?

Would you be able to get any files if you sent in your device for rep that got flashed at the service center?
[XPERIA X10 General] -- X10B --:
dude chill lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I'm sick of posts that amount to nothing. Just getting tired of people getting our hopes up for nothing constantly...

The bootloader fiasco made me slightly jaded
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I think SE will be doing the best for this update.

If it preforms as expected they might have my vote.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
But is the FW rootable ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Amount to nothing, what exactly did you think that this could amount to?

It could never amount to anything as it's done from a service center that has access to the firmware, nothing more, nothing less.

It's only one person who got 2.3.3 from a Service center, and that would make you think that it would be available for everyone?

It was just a small pointer on 2.3.3, to let people know it's ready.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
adb pull doesn't need root. Or does it ?
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
Nope... that does not need root to pull.
[XPERIA X10 General] tigermrk:
So we could know before its released if all the rumours were true?

i dont mind waiting now, waited long enough already.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
You've got a point there.
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
i dunno, the sin files, or even some questions answered at least.

If he didn't get it back yet how does he know there is 2.3 on it?
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
According to the link:

It could be a typo too.
[XPERIA X10 General] arkedk:
How do you wanna get sin files from anything that hasn't been flashed from your own computer?

And service centers don't use normal flashing, they use an *.esa file which contains the firmware.

And then there is something called correspondence with the customer, when the customers device is in for service.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Since You people cant discuss anything without lowering yourselves to arguing and crying ive locked this thread

The OP can still update but you cant ***** at each other
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Thread reopened

be aware that bans and infractions will be given for people being *****es
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
Thanks Pilot :)

Our first order of business, new video stating roll out is to begin this week!

Looks legit too

[YOUTUBE]mxVpm6WnoMA[/YOUTUBE]
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
what do you guys think? will the update come this week like someone said that they said in the video?

and thanks -Pilot- for reopened this thread :)
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
I feel like the person must have some inside connections in order to have the firmware early!!

The fact that they took the vid down immediately once they realized a lot of people were seeing it makes me think they very well could be right too.

I could picture SE doing that too, giving us a date and rolling it out a little early. A good way to build morale and keep their customer base
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
i am glad this thread has reopened... thank u -PiLoT-!

btw if u remember that i had told u guys that using insecure kernels is possible if we have an unlocked bootloader... even if the main system is protected/gingerbreak exploit is patched...

here is the proof:-

Insecure kernel for Xperia Arc

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1172885

Insecure kernel for Xperia Play

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1176502
[XPERIA X10 General] 28spawn:
Its possible that the gingerbread has already released in one or other CDA number, but how to find out?

I look at SE blog and when x10 was updated to 2.1 over 300 cda numbers are shown.

If we have access to EMMA server we should be able to verify if this new version is already disponible to any kit, anyone knows someone that have access to it?

Bye.
[XPERIA X10 General] TJ_M:
I have EMMA access,will look into it tomorrow.
[XPERIA X10 General] 28spawn:
Oh that's good.

The EMMA server is the Sony Ericsson Emma found in here - http://emma.extranet.sonyericsson.com/

Witch is used to repair and other stuff of authorized persons.

By connecting your x10 devices I believe you will be able to see the latest releases.

The only needed thing is to copy the CDA numbers with have already the version 3.0.x released ( not the brown versions) and change it on your devices using this procedure.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8934154

And try to update your device.

Bye =)
[XPERIA X10 General] moritd:
Thx -pilot

No multi touch and no fixed duat touch was wrost news i could hear because i was w8ing to play game loft games with MT..... ah
[XPERIA X10 General] acmbc:
@DooMLoRD - Personally I find it more enthralling what you guys will be able to do with components from the new release (kernel-wise, definitely fixing bugs on existing GB ROMs) than with SEs release per se. No matter what they put out, its late and behind what independent devs like yourself and many others have been able to do in spite of SE saying it was "impossible"

Re. the unlocked bootloader, isn't SE on record in several places saying that the X10 bootloader will not be unlocked?
[XPERIA X10 General] realfelix:
Soo if I am not dumb the 2.3.3 Update is being rolled out this week? :))
[XPERIA X10 General] scoobysnacks:
that's what the vid says :)
[XPERIA X10 General] realfelix:
thats a good message seriously.. i think we've waited long enough for that update to come out .. i hope SE holds what they promised though :D
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
Yep "They holds what they promised". You know why ? because They dont promised anything ;D
[XPERIA X10 General] realfelix:
they did ;D e.g. : better performance and MAYBE removed fps cap ^^
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
I went onto my computer today and PC companion did an update today. Not the firmware but just the program and the last time that happened 1 wk later 2.1 released. I think the video is right. Why update the program if the release is not due

I hope the release is next week as I have now been making sure the "your phone is up to date" says "your phone needs updating. Download now". Please God make them release it soon lol :D
[XPERIA X10 General] newalopez:
Arc already has firmare 4...... so maybe Android 2.3.4 ...

http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=18648

:D
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
The arc and Neo and play are getting the updates in October. On that website they have shown a firmware foe the x10 starting 3.0.1.Q.0.xxx not sure what the rest was but that doesn't mean its been released yet. It probably isn't even what the firmware code will probably be. Did your PC companion update recently. Coz mine did today and the last time it did that was when the 2.1 update came out then it did it again when we got dual touch. So I think the update is within the next 2 weeks maximum. My mate wont give me anymore info now either. Which is a bit strange because before he was telling me everything he knew but now he always says I can't tell you nothing at the moment. I think SE UK have told him not to say anything Cox they're releasing it sooner than what they said. Even the things he told me before he wont answer them again.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Thanks for unlocking this Pilot :). This time hopefully everyone will not act like a child.

OP will be updated soon to be easier to read and add the youtube video thingy

Edit:OP updated with new video and slight grammar changes
[XPERIA X10 General] SkyStars:
Its difficult to contain my excitement.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
After I've gone through the video a couple of times, I'm convinced SE have done something to the FPS cap. Especially starting at 2:05, the app drawer transitions seem as smooth as when I do it on my DoomKernel Achtojan ROM.

It looks great.
[XPERIA X10 General] shadow_hazard69:
can not wait :) iv been swaping custom rom for months so a official reliable rom will be awesome
[XPERIA X10 General] shadow_hazard69:
does anyone have an idea of a release date in aug???
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
No, but there's a rumor it's gonna be released this weekend.
[XPERIA X10 General] hemo1001:
bootloader is broken now ... hope we get the 16m soon by someone of our great devs
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
wht!

who? when? where? how?

LINKS please
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
I don't think the rumors are true. SE will not release the OS upgrade without an announcement. August is August and it won't come any sooner.
[XPERIA X10 General] Razorblade81:
From now, my X10 is connected to my Laptop here on work.

PC Companion runs in background.

If there is a Message to Update, i will Post it soon but i think when the update is available, all relevants "Gingerbread, Official 2.3.3 ect..." Threads will be explode :D
[XPERIA X10 General] marsx1984:
So when they launched 2.1 did they anounce a specific date at any time? Not just something like in the "next few weeks"...... Just asking because I'm new to the comunity ...
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
They made an announcement on SE blog and gave a specific day and which regions would be updated first, it started on a Sunday. They made the announcement 48 hours before on a Friday.
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
Link please as i have just been on the blog and dont see anything about regions and dates. Just the same crap as always. You need to post links if you say things like this
[XPERIA X10 General] eureka9092000:
He talk about 2.1 updates not 2.3 updates..
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
He's talking about the 2.1 release and thinks that the same will happen with 2.3.
[XPERIA X10 General] marsx1984:
I found this link. It was posted on a friday but only 24h before the actual release

blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/10/29/xperia-software-update-2/
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
I didn't say I think it will be same, i said that's what they did for 2.1 update as the person ASKED on previous post.

Why does anything you say on this forum become an issue?

@sammy, And why do I need to provide links? I said its on SE BLOG so just go back to last October and you'll see it.

@marsx1984,

The post was on Friday and release was on Sunday - that's about 48 hours like I said
[XPERIA X10 General] Razorblade81:
I think we just can wait until SE releases news on their blog.

After that we definitly know when we can prepare for usb connection ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
Ok my bad sorry. I thought you were on about the 2.3 update.
[XPERIA X10 General] marsx1984:
@jayman1986 you are right..my bad
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Exactly, people should just calm down for now and stop being so twitchy.

Let's all wait for some proper news.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
No probs
[XPERIA X10 General] Nagarebozhi:
Remeber that Rikard Doesn't work with the blog for now! So they mabe doesn't will announce the update

Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phone! Follow My Google+ gplus.to/xperia84
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
True, nobody was as active on blog like he was, hopefully someone will update us
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
Has anyone's PCC updated itself at all in the last couple of days. Because mine did yesterday and the last time that happened they brought the update 1 week later. So if its the same as last time in England we might get the update either some point next week or like my mate said who works for SE UK it will be out 1st week of August but now when I ask him he wont say anything about the release date. All he says is it doesn't matter it will be soon. What do you think that means? :?
[XPERIA X10 General] marsx1984:
People from SonyEricsson are pretty active on their facebook discussion boards .As you can see they kind of confirmed that the ianroid.co.il video is real

facebook.com/topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=28439

facebook.com/topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=28377

facebook.com/topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26381#topic_top
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
can anyone jsut get out the kernel version from them?

just try to see if we getting 2.6.29 (patched for GB) or 2.6.32
[XPERIA X10 General] BinaryXeroMedia:
Apparently from what I heard don't know if its true or not but we are keeping the same kernel but with a few tweaks to it. Apparently it will be 2.6.29.6 with native wifi and USB tethering. Hope they don't give us that one as we all would like a more up to date kernel.