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[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
Sure, I'll try to be somewhat brief, not my strong suit :p.

While I don't have an iPhone and never have, I do have experience with jailbreaking them. It isn't he same as rooting because the underlying systems are so different. With WM it was just called unlocking (and you could do just about anything), with Android it is called rooting because it gives you root access (a term from linux/general computing). Jailbreaking an iPhone will still only get you so far due to Apple.

It gives you the ability to install various apps and mods through Cydia (basically a black market App Store). What you are able to do is still limited by Apple and it's whole ecosystem where as rooting Android gives you options everywhere left, right and center. Even with Cydia, the only thing I've seen that is beneficial is themes (which are largely still just icons and folders of course); anything past that is really inconsequential IMO. You aren't gonna get various radios, kernels, and other mods. For example, skirting tethering charges is a lot harder to get around on an iPhone, though part of that is just AT&T. Additionally when they release an update to iOS it has to be jailbroken, in our cases we are rooted we just have to wait for Google to release source so AOSP guys can work on getting out new versions (CM), or wait for HTC/Sprint in which case rooted OTA roms are out the day of. No waiting for another root/jailbreak exploit to be found.

So while the idea behind *unlocking* these devices is similar, what you can actually gain by doing it serves vastly different purposes. Like I said, this has more to do with the actual OSes themselves than just the actual rooting/jailbreaking, but that is all part of it.

Attempting to use their term jailbreaking; rooting Android is like escaping from jail, running off to South America with a fake identity and a foreign bank account setup for your future, while jailbreaking iOS is like escaping, only to be surrounded in a large wooded area within 10 miles of the facility. All the while hiding from the authorities, til you are eventually caught, put under higher security and have to do it all over again :D.

Of course I'm about as biased as they come on this subject, as most of us are ;). So much for keeping it brief...Are you considering an iPhone or just curious?
[EVO 4G Android Development] yznhmr:
So TB says:

Sys Rom 367 MB (9.48 free)

Internal 446MB (293 Free)

SD and a2sd both have 12+ and 1+gb free

So is the system too high?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aburgthing:
Brilliantly written :) lol...I mean this is really good!
[EVO 4G Android Development] KB112:
I don't know if it's already been posted, but for those with the problem of missing texts, or receiving them hours late, give Gingerbread Ghostly SMS a shot.

https://market.android.com/details?id=it.sineo.android.GhostSMS&feature=search_result

I heard that the OTA fix that was issued was supposed to help with missing/late texts and also voice recognition etc. But this works for me. I have had it pull quite a few texts that my stock messaging app never got, or popped up with them way later.
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
Kool, thanks alot!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
Ok so the missing texts and voice recognition problems are a Gingerbread issue and not rom related?

Interesting.....

Your post will be saved for future use. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
yeah 9.48 mb free is not alot, like one song worth depending on how long the song is, just as an idea, i uploaded songs today to the box for the touchpad, and one song was 7. something mb's.

got any app you dont use? like live-wallpapers, or the music visualizations wallpapers, or smoke wallpapers, which are all separate app according to TB. or other apps like these like i dont use swype, so i removed it, along with the e-mail app gmail is enough for me, car panel i dont use, everything in the car panel works without actually having the panel, basically stuff that is considered system apps that i never touch within the rom i remove to free up space.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Yep. Supposedly the Evo OTA 4.53 will take care of that
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
Thanks Tommy.

This issue comes up from time to time. I figured it wasn't rom related but many folks complaining about this issue think it is.

Now we have some clarity.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Maybe tonight I'll back up my SD card, reformat, repartition to 2 gb and see, as I'm just at 1 gig now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] k4p741nkrunch:
I did compare my up time to my awake time after leaving it off the charger on my spare battery. The numbers all seem normal, with 4.5 hours of up time and 52 minutes of awake time. I just flashed what I call the 'aSystemKiller zip', designed by JBabey to eradicate wake lock issues. It contains:

Radio: 2.15.00.05.02

PRI: 1.77_003

NV: 1.90_003

WiMAX: 27243

I'm going to do some testing, but in the 5 minutes I've flashed it my up and awake times are exactly the same.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
LOL...Hello stranger, fancy seeing you here. I also use to see you over on the MikG thread. Am I stalking you or are you stalking me? :p;)

Anyway, I got tired of feeling like the screenies police so I stopped going to that thread. A shame too because I really liked to see people's setups but we won't go into that here, it's been covered ad nauseum already...lol.

Naw...my 16GB Class 2 works great it's just too slow for me. I'm going to try another 16GB Class 6 and report my findings. What class card are you using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
I'm not the one complaining about major battery drain. :) I almost always get through the day with no problems (usually with at least about 50 % battery remaining) , and that's with moderate use. As has been said before, sometimes when flashing a new rom it takes a day or two to settle in. On occasion there is fast drain after I flash a new nightly/RC, but it gets much better by the 2nd recharge.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Give it a try. The only thing you have to lose is *time*....;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
I'm also using a Transcend 8GB class 6 and it works great. I'm just looking for more space.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Now that I checked though, Mine's been off the charger for 4 hrs, and shows 77% Display, but I'm work so it's been off the entire time, basically, and it shows only 5% idle time. Battery level is at 87%, with almost zero use, data off, and I'm on PRI 1.77, btw....
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Barring a verifiable wakelock issue, I agree with your statement, my friend...;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Solicitous:
Heh I know you weren't complaining; I just saw you make a reference to major battery drain so I wanted to hear your take. I flashed the RC on the 27th and I still see a significant drain
[EVO 4G Android Development] kellte2:
I was on PRI 1.77 and i was having the elevated display use and i was unable to update my PRL. When I upgraded my PRI, i was able to get the new PRL no problem. Still waiting on looking into battery use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Thank you for the update, my friend and I'm glad you got it all squared away. As I've stated numerous times, when you know that you've done everything right and you're still having problems flashing a rom, chances are, you need to re-format and/or re-partition the SD card.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dreddge:
It kills me to see all the battery complaints. I get better battery life with synergy than any other ROM Ever..

Like OVER 9000!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
I got several requests for this...

New Orleans Saints theme up now!

just hit the link in my sig
[EVO 4G Android Development] k4p741nkrunch:
I've never seen Wake Lock manifest as a super-spiked display usage. I monitor the Android System processes using System Monitor Pro and it doesn't appear to be caused by any individual processes. It feels somehow like it is something legitimately wrong with the display causing it to drain power unnecessarily.

I'm going to play another 10 minutes of Doodle Fit and then post some additional battery stats.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kellte2:
Is display your top battery use? I'm not having wakelock issues, but i never had display topping my battery use before this ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Now that is a very nice theme, Evan. I might have to give that one a try. Keep up the good work, my friend. Your name & popularity are growing and I hope the *donations* are as well....hint, hint people....;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Good morning Mynions!!! Miss me?

Still NO ROOT on my shiny new Evo 4G so I'm just an observer here (and back in the old thread...)...and it's driving me bananas...

So many people with problems...I'm even jealous of those problems...I wish I had them, as that'd mean I was rooted!!!

It's really wonderful to see how Vanessa, Tami and a few others have handled the "flamers" that came here from other threads thinking they could be the same a-holes here they are there...

Nice job all...gotta keep the Myn Mindset alive!!!

Now if some people would just make their sigs smaller and/or remove ridiculous labels ("RecDev"...c'mon...) from them, that'd really be something...

CAN'T WAIT FOR ROOT SO I CAN TRULY JUMP IN!!

:eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] n8te_1:
wakelock issue here as well...took the phone off the charger 5.5 hours ago and sitting at 45%...and it was only in use for a total of prolly 10 mins.

running 1.77 now. i'll try upgrading and see if that fixes it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SoraX64:
Could I possibly have a flashable .zip with just that battery? I've been wanting that heart for a long time!
[EVO 4G Android Development] k4p741nkrunch:
Yes it is, in case you missed the first screenshot, I'm about to post another.

This is After I downgraded PRI to 1.77 and upgraded the NV to 1.90, but I still have the same results, just worse cellular signal.

The 5 minutes of game time I played took me down 4%. I would have expected maybe 1% max drain in that instance from Myns TwoPointTwo. It's like the 3D effects of this Rosie 3.0 are trying to force my screen to be like the Evo 3Ds', but it NEEDS MORE POWAH.
[EVO 4G Android Development] KB112:
Yeah Vanessa, I read it posted on Sprintusers and another forum a short time ago. I also experienced these issues on 2 other ROMS. I just started using the app and was actually a little amazed. I have had people tell me I never responded to them, or I get a text like 3-4hrs after being sent. This lil app seems to fix that issue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dcaplinger76:
Anybody know why some of my apps are getting moved to sd all by themselves?
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
are you partitioned?? this rom has cm7 a2sd built in so if your partitioned it will move apps to sd, and leave you more internal room on the rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mrsnc131:
September 9th can't come soon enough...

Sent from Ray's Evo...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dcaplinger76:
I was at one time but I have since reformatted the sd card but yet somehow these apps keep finding their way on there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
"reformatted" is not the same as "repartitioned"

if the partitions are there, cma2sd will use them.

the only way to nuke the partitions (BACK UP YOUR SD CARD FIRST) is to re-partition in recovery (zero swap, zero ext2, all remaining FAT)
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
reformatting your sd only formatted the fat partition, you have to actually go in and re-partition everything to 0 to erase the partition (i believe) then re-format your sd.

i know its a pain in the *** to re-due everything, but its a guaranteed way to not have any "user errors" :p with the rom, i havent had one problem with this rom since i first flashed rc1 (that wasnt my own fault).
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
faster type'r than i, or you read the post before me, but yeah

i agree with you.... ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
Whats 9/9?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
I think that's the date the change to the existing T's&C's become official and people can get out of their existing contracts, and there is some expectation that large numbers of dissatisfied Sprint customers will leave the carrier etc etc. Not that you couldn't leave today. That was the whole point of the goodandevo article.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mrsnc131:
I get to bargain with sprint for my 3vo with sprint...

Sent from Ray's Evo...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Great Offender:
Is this ROM capable of 4G? I did a quick search and found nothing on the subject?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NxNW:
4G yes. (works fine for me, just got 7mbs down 1.4 up today)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Great Offender:
Thanks... This was my first choice for my wife's phone but found nothing about 4g capabilities.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crypticlama:
What effects bat life radio or kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
.............

Yes.

Both.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crypticlama:
you recommend a combo that gets good bat life?
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
well, it can be both but mostly kernel, the only way a radio will effect your battery is dependent on the signal your getting from that radio, whether it be the cell radio, wifi, 4G radio, if the signal is weak, your phone will continuously be searching for strong signal strength, eating more battery in the process, where as if you have full signal, your phone isnt searching for signal which will eat less battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
try freedoms, he has 4 versions, stock - less - more - aggressive, then try chopsuey, which is one built off of the freedom's source, and then try golden monkey.

You might ask why i mentioned all of them, well because all phones are different, what might work for some doesnt work for others. Only true way to find the best kernel for your phone is trail and error, and test them all.

ALL WAYS MAKE A NANDROID BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING, that way if it doesnt work just nandroid back and try the next one.

also before flashing anything be sure to read the threads for these kernels to find flaws and fixes for these flaws before flashing so if you have any problems you will know what to do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crypticlama:
your a huge help man. Thanks. Ill let you know how it turns out
[EVO 4G Android Development] life:
no problem
[EVO 4G Android Development] revcp:
Before flashing freedom kernel wipe cache and dalvik.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NasTraDooMis:
Welp, dont look like I'm getting the 3d evo :(

Wirefly cancelled me order cause i guess when you order a phone it has to be a contract extension (new 2 year agreement ), Sprint says i am not eligible for that till 5/2012. But i am eligible for phone upgrade back on 7/1/11 . Wtf ? I may just jump ship too with these new price hikes .
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
What tier Premiere member are you? Silver or Gold. If you're Gold, you were probably eligible for the yearly upgrade 7/11 but you're contact doesn't officially end until 5/12. The deep $19.99 is for brand new contracts not upgrades.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
I'm using the latest OTA at this very moment and this far, it is rock solid.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
Are you on Synergy right now?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
No, Vanessa. I haven't been on Synergy in several days. I've been using the stock Gingerbread rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
.............

Oh ok.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Alpine-:
Hoping Synergy gets updated to take into account these changes. Have not seen anything official yet from myn or the team.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
It had been quite a while since I used it and during a moment of needing to flash something, I flashed it and have been satisfied with it ever since. Another reason I flashed it was in preparation for the release of Warm 2.3. Anyway, as I stated in an earlier post either here or our new home, the stock gingerbread rom feels natural on my device.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
I shot you a PM DJ.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
It will. They just have a full plate right now. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Got it and have already responded, my friend...;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
U dont actually have to wait till september the 9th, i called last night and they said that i have untill sept 29th to cancel and not get charged the ETF, i dnt actually wanna leave tho.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sclarktay4:
dont you have to leave sprint and go to another provider?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dynamicpda:
Overnight battery drain

I fully charged the phone then took it off the plug while I slept over night. In 7-8 hours, it lost 33% of the charge on an extended battery.

The kernel is Freedom Aggressive 0.85. SetCPU has two profiles: Charging 1075/1075 Performance; Battery < 101% 245/1036 InteractiveX. Uptime is 44:45, Wake Time: 23:49.

Any ideas on how I can improve the overnight battery drain, which indicates how much the phone is draining while screen off? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
I hope not. To force people to leave Sprint simply because they opted to have their early termination fee dropped due to a change from the carrier is foolish. Heck, a lot of the people who are doing this simply want to upgrade early to a new phone on the Sprint Network and thus, those people will sign a new agreement in the process.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
Sprint's Retention Dept won't let that happen no matter what. A few years ago my cousin wanted to leave Sprint because they wouldn't let him do an early upgrade. When he threatened to leave, they threatened him with the ETF. He said he'd pay it just so he could go somewhere else and get the phone he wanted and they'd be offering him a free phone because he was a new customer. I also think he threw in that it worked out cheaper for him to pay the ETF than to live out the remainder of his current contract. Sprint backed down and gave him his early upgrade.

I'm not saying this will be the case for everyone but it worked for him.

Sprint would rather not lose customers to any of their competitors. The competition, especially now, is too great. Even though, they still have the best price plans around, that's not stopping people from jumping ship.
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
If you really want to cancel u can. They offered me prepaid but no month to month service. Im not really wanting to leave sprint so i will use this as an oppurtunity to get a new phone phone, so far im leaning towards the evo 3d.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Alpine-:
This applies if you're a regular customer paying for a non discounted plan. I'm a longtime SERO customer. I've had extensive dealings with customer care for SERO (employee plans). The "NEW" Sprint customer service has now rolled up Employee care and retetions into one specialized call center because poorly trained employees at other locations unfamiliar with SERO (and the more Savvy customers) were letting the plans get abused, adding more SERO lines, adding perks, etc. etc. Well NOW its totally different. There really isnt a special retentions department for SERO customers - you cant cycle the call up. This one center handles ALL SERO related calls and they are MUCH more familiar with the plans, limitations and loopholes. They are also MUCH more likely to let unprofitable, dead weight SERO customers go than the former Sprint I used to know. The old retentions would do anything if you threatened to leave and were halfway intelligent about it. Now, if you have SERO, they are smart enough to never let you get to the standard retentions people. You stay talking to someone within this call center. To be honest, this was a change that had to happen to make Sprint a more profitable company. They were getting abused badly with SERO accounts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] detcup4evr:
I found this in a kernel thread, Incase anyone is looking for a fix this might do it, I will be nandroiding and flashing later today

Not sure what the blue tooth issue is but the voice search issue I am having

Sent from my Synergized Evo using the XDA app

Sent from my Synergized Evo using the XDA app
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
This is probably why they are raising the ETF to $350 now, to prevent this from happening
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
$350 is the maximum, meaning you have your full contract in front of you, sprint would much rather have you pay your monthly bill for two years
[EVO 4G Android Development] churka:
I just upgraded to the Evo and i am familiar with rooting and custom roms, etc.

But this is the first I have seen a Synergy ROM. I see the explanation for God Mode, but one question, does it affect the battery life? Because I see that it the device doesnt even need overclocking.

Edit: I'm already rooted :), did it hours after I got it
[EVO 4G Android Development] shanevo:
This is not all of the information in this thread for the V6 Supercharger, but enough to get some of those new to it started.

Those running Godmode have a different variation to get it to run, they don't need script manager.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16818989&postcount=15396

Also it looks like Gmode and non-Gmode are discussed quite a bit from the post above and for the next 30 posts or so after it.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16830438&postcount=15431
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
Exactly, that's basically the point my cousin and I were making...lol. It would work out cheaper to eat the ETF cost and it's really a loss for Sprint in the long run. What's $350 really? The price of two to three months worth of bills? They'd rather you pay 12 to 24 months worth. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] marvinlh:
Ive been trying to help my brother get his evo rooted but he always get an invalid beta key error, ive googled different methods around this error and forwarded it to him, he is in new orleans and im in houston so its kinda hard for me to do it for him bcuz none of the anwserd i found seems to get him past this error. Hes dosent know much about root, any suggestions. The screen shot below is a picture he sent me of his computer screen. I didnt have to use this method to root so im not to familiar with the revolution.

This was his message to me: "I've tried 4 different beta keys 3 different times on 2 different computers... And get the same thing every time."
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
No doubt about it....;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Omigosh! I ate way too much..hahaha...I feel like a balloon ready to pop.
[EVO 4G Android Development] treedog5:
i agree with you to a certain extent. i had 2 sero lines and when the evo came out i wanted it cheap so i called up and had them start me a 3rd sero line which was supposed to impossible to do. but after 13 chat sessions i got it done. sprint is really willing to do almost anything to keep its customer base but a lot of ppl do take advantage of this 2much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] treedog5:
ditto, me to:eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] whiterider13:
I flashed this about an hour ago and, as far as I can tell, it works for synergy rls1. Anyone who wants the updates from the latest OTA should give it a try. It is a flashable zip.