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[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dbpaddler:
Even though you edited, I thought all the ahole fanboys were in the ilounge? Guess not. Hope you're not the norm around here or I'll really be slumming it in this forum.

And fyi...I get 5+mb down and 1mb up at my house wth my epic, even better with my overdrive. The 4gs/sk4g/g2 are all sub 512k down and 6-700k up. And I'm in a major philly metro off a major road 2 miles from an interstate where less than a mile away I'll get 6mb down on tmob. Not to mention the map clearly extends that coverage to where I live. They're just as spotty as sprint, some in the same areas and some different. And with one year contracts I can flip phones and manage people's accounts as I see fit. Almost always have non contract lines I can upgrade, play and pass off to another rep. So with that big plus and no coverage issues from Jersey to DC, the motivating factor to switch to t-mob is the $500 savings per month and wifi calling since we spend a lot of time deep in hospitals where coverage is non existent but can hop on their public wifi.

I spent the past month driving around the philly area comparin service and speed and past off the phones to other reps who extend out further. No significant differences between the two outside of one small rural area where tmob has hspa+ speeds and Sprint struggles. That's one odd area out of many.

I hve no bias or allegiance to either company. I care about service, price and fulfilling my gadget lust. And I most definitely won't switch if I can't use my hotspot at home (512k just does't cut it.). So until they turn on the at&t towers for tmob (so my rep says) I tell him he's SOL on me switching.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
I'm having trouble translating that post, but I'll give it a shot.

1. Whenever I'm in Philly, I get great speeds everywhere. It's one of the many reasons I love going!

2. I never said I was a Tmo fanboy. You might be confused by the fact that I said I would gladly be on Sprint if their 4G actually worked during my testing phase. And that was a basic use test: work and home and everywhere in between. But maybe I'll give them another chance once they admit they made a moronic decision and ditch WiMax.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dbpaddler:
That was your original quote. You tell me how you think you came off.

I'm speed testing side by side as I drive from lancaster to yardley to pottstown to south philly. I call it like I see it. I see baffling things on both sides, like crappy speed or reception while hanging out within sight of a tower or standing less than 100yds of one.

And I must've struck some chord because last I checked, this thread was about a phone, not a comparison of tmob and sprint. And the bottom line is the 4gs is the same tired design with the same tired 4 row keyboard and the same tired sub 4" screen. HTC has done better designs with other sliders (the Arrive). They give their slates 4+ inch screens and relegate their sliders to 3.6-7. It's a nice phone for what it is, but I was just expecting better for their flagship slider.

One plus with tmob is I can take a non US Droid 3, pop in the sim and be a happy camper. Better yet, if one of the guys here figures out how to add our country code back to big red's version, I'll be able to pick one up even cheaper. So let's keep the convo where it belongs, on the phone.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
Pass. It's a solid design, but most of the time, I don't want to look at an angled screen. I had a Touch Pro 2 for nearly two years and I barely used the tilt screen other than keeping my fingers busy. If it had the option to stay flat or be tilted, then it would be much better.

I like the phone's slim design when looking at it straight on. I wish it could be thinner from the side, but hey, I need my hard keyboard. I don't need a mini-tablet on my belt and that's what it feels like when holding these giant 4 inch screens.

I don't see much need for a D-pad anymore. The only thing I'd use it for is editing text and the O-pad works perfect for that.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dbpaddler:
I care more about the 5 row keyboard and cursor keys more than anything. To me, and I would imagine anyone that does any kind of Office work and is heavy on the emails, it's just more efficient to have the dedicated number row and cursor keys for flow, navigation and editing. And if Samsung and Motorola can create nice keyboards with those features, I don't understand why HTC can't take that step forward. I even like the Sidekick 4g design better. It lacks the cursor keys but gives you the number row and lots of space between the keys. If they didn't put so much bezel around the screen, it would be a nice 4" slider, essentially a Sidekick version of the Epic. I still have it actually. The G2 was crap. Fresh out of the box I could hold the top half and have the hinge hang open. I just don't get HTC clinging to that design like it's gold. Come up with a 3rd generation of that tilting hinge to give the option for flat or angled. At least you'd have space for a nice roomy keyboard. Alt + # belongs on portrait thumboards, not landscape. That's my soapbox speech.

I've given up on ultra thin. I was actually happy with the Epic's dimensions and weight. And believe it or not, it's not far off from the 4gs. Weight wise the Epic feels lighter even. You lessen the bezel on the 4gs considering the sides flare out, you could easily fit a 4" screen.

If I didn't live in Docs To Go and already have an Epic, I'd probably be happier with the 4gs. It does seem speedy and solid. But I did a bunch of invoicing this week with it and found it tedious. And I still don't like that .com button being in the way of the A button.

And no HDMI out? C'mon, these hardware beasts scream stream me to your big screen. Would love to stream hbo to the flat screen in my hotel from my phone.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
I'd love to have a 5th dedicated row for numbers, but most sliders don't even bother, most likely because it's not a big sell point. I don't use Office-like apps all that much anymore, just email and text constantly and less so now that I've taken the leap to leave my work email at work and keep it off my personal phone. It works good with the ALT key, but sure, it's definitely not as efficient as a dedicated row.

If HTC made one, I'd be all over it, but I cannot stand anything from Motorola. Their Droid line seems like they were all made from recycled plastic bags.

I'd agree with you on the streaming, except I bought all these connectors for my tablet to stream to TVs at home and in hotels and I never use it. I'd rather stream from my laptop for a whole list of reasons (dimensions, navigation, video and audio customizations, etc.).

I agree that the .com button is in the way, but that's only because it wasn't in the way on my previous phone. Every keyboard gets some getting used to and I bet it's 10 times harder when you're using two different keyboards at the same time.

The Sidekick 4G seemed odd to me. The ginormous spacing between the candy keys was just plain goofy. And the Droid 3 keyboard is just WAY too tight for my fat (yet manly) fingers.

The camera is great. I have an EPL-1, but sometimes, I'm just too lazy to carry it everywhere and it can be annoying to always walk around with a camera bag just IN CASE I feel like taking pictures. I used to be into amateur photography so much until I realized that while I was taking pictures, I was missing the party (literally and metaphorically). A phone camera just comes in handy sometimes and the less blurry mess they are, the better.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dbpaddler:
I have a powershot s95 I carry when I don't feel like lugging the D90 around. Already convinced 3 people to buy one after they see the pics it takes. I found it small enough to easily carry to most events. I do take few pics with the Epic, like when I forgot to put the memory card back in my camera...grrr.

Soft or hard, that .com button is only in that location on that HTC design, nowhere else. Most others put it on the bottom row next to the alt or shift key, give or take a key of course.

For as cheap as cables are now it's easy to keep one in a suitcase and work bag. I'd actually do presentations on it. But I'm actually trying to get others at work to use their phones more. And I ditched my laptop for a Transformer. Haven't really looked back.

The 4g is an odd dock. So close to being great. It's an Epic in disguise.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] ratchetrizzo:
I didn't call about a G2x, I don't even have one (I have a G2 with keyboard). I called to find out what retentions could do for me for a mt4gs as a upgrade on one of my lines out of contract.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] enoch861:
Ahhh, got ya!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] dbpaddler:
The G2 is pretty much the same feature phone-ish keyboard. The only other thing I like besides the speed of the phone is the hard buttons instead of capacitive ones for home, menu, and back. I like tactile.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] rorytmeadows:
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g-slide-review
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] itsluy:
now that ive had the phone for a few days the keyboard is growing on me.

I do miss one thing from the Sensation which is the bilingual word suggestions / autocorrect.

Overall I'm very pleased with both the phone and tmobile (coming from verizon).

I've realized that although HDMI is nice most hotels have cable and I have a laptop.

My biggest concern is with screen separation on the mt4gs.

Mine doesn't have it but the display model at tmo was pretty bad, the screen was literally jiggling while I held it by the keyboard.

I got the insurance just in case.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] icoman:
I am getting the same reception I got with the 3G slide. I just now pretty much covered the entire phone with both my hands and only saw the bars move one notch. I can pretty much cover the back and sides of the phone with my hands and I do not see the signal change more than 1 bar. (Wifi or Cell)

Haven't tried the GPS. I did turn it on and it seemed to locate my position better than the 3GSlide but i haven't really tried to go anywhere with it so I can't really comment.

Mine sounds good everywhere so far to the people I've called the sound quality coming in a little harsh on the high end when people call me. I haven't heard anyone complain or even notice that I had a new phone so it must be as good as the old 3GS. I don't really call that many people though and haven't really had the phone all that long so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I will say this though, I'm going to assume that the Sensation has more of the death grip issue and that is what causes the call problems. It looks like the 4GSlide doesn't have the death grip, at least I don't think 0-1 bar of change should be considered a death grip, so it shouldn't have near the call quality issues. I did watch some sensation death-grip videos and my phone doesn't do what that phone does, going from 4 bars to 1 or 0 is pretty bad.

I really don't use speakerphone so I can't say to be honest.

Not yet, so far it seems to do fine. However, I really can't say anything too definite as my old 3GS would have problems intermittently. So, I could just be getting lucky at the moment. At my house I get signal 4 feet from the wireless router and all the way outside in the driveway.

I haven't seen any issues with mine, although I must point out that I did see some stuttering with T-Mobile TV, you get a 30 day free trial of the premium and still get a few free channels if you don't keep it. I do see some major stuttering when streaming through wifi at home.

I can confirm that if you download the Crackle app from the net, and not the market, it works great and doesn't appear to have as many issues as T-Mo TV.

I was out with the phone this past week and was still getting great download speeds usually from 5.5MB - 6.5MB depending on location.

I should also point out that 3G Wifi Hotspot works much better than the 3GSlide and is actually usable now instead of simply a headache.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] icoman:
That is a really nice keyboard on the Epic it looks far and away better than the 4GS but, a keyboard design alone isn't going to sway me to be on Sprint that charges more money for less service. Nothing against Sprint but, they use ATT coverage where I live so that means only 2G data and I get charged extra to use it since they charge for data roaming. I'm also not giving up a phone with a far and away better feature set/interface for a better keyboard.

IMO Sprint needs to step it up. I pay $80 in total per month all included, tax etc, as I'm grandfathered with a 10% discount from school and I get:

Unlimited Nights & Weekends

Unlimited Text

Unlimited T-mo to T-mo

300 Anytime minutes

5x Free and Unlimited Myfaves

Unlimited Data on T-mo (5Gb then throttled but still no extra costs and still doesn't really effect me where I live as coverage only gives me 1.5MB speed anyway. Also the most I've used is 3.5GB per month as I have 3MB wifi here at home. Also, as if there aren't was around being throttled.)

Unlimited Data for Roaming (Sure it's slower at about 20-30Kbps but, better than nothing or being charged extra like Sprint)

4G/3G Wifi Hotspot

Wifi Calling

And One Beauty and the Beast of a phone with everything thrown in as well as the kitchen sink and bag of chips. Only to get better and faster as bugs are fixed and Asynchronous cores are better supported. It's got a good camera with a BRI sensor dual led flash and 1080p video recording, a nice screen, a good keyboard, asynchronous dual core cpu, adreno 220 gpu, a gorgeous version of sense, good call quality, HSPDA+ capable data speeds, wired video out, screen share, blue-tooth, a wonderful built in mp3 player that has exceptional sound quality, a very nice car dock with voice commands and voice interaction, FM radio, dual led flashlight, built in free tmobile tv and slacker radio, front facing camera, and quite a few other things like the wonderful sense ui that make this phone great in my opinion.

Sure the camera isn't an S95 but I have a T3i for taking real pictures, even an S95 isn't going to come close to a good DSLR with an old Russian manual lens attached to it. And yeah I can see where having a nice keyboard will help if your sending lots of emails all the time but, if you are emailing that often you should probably stay in your office or get a laptop.

Also, the phone still may be able to do MHL HDMI. It's the same hardware as the Sensation so even if the software isn't in it, it could get it in the future. It already does video out with the headphone jack and has screen-share DLNA streaming although I could not get it to show up with the PS3.

Sorry to get off topic it just sounded like you were saying the 4G Slide and T-mobile were doing a poor job. However, the only evedince you had was that the Epic has a better keyboard. It's like saying the 4G Slide sucks because it doesn't have an Ericson Satio quality camera.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] AZScrewloose:
For me the call quality was ok. Not distorted or cracking. But even at the highest settings, and with the special hearing impared feature turned on, the phones call volume is still quiet. Even on speaker phone with the volume maxed out I still needed to hold the phone to my ear to hear clearly in the car. But for some reason the media player is loud enough I have to turn the volume down. Go figure.

I like to use the speaker phone, more so than hand held. So this issue will eventually be a problem. Hopefully a volume fix or audio booster will be availible soon.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] enoch861:
School discount?

Can you explain that? I totally need that!
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Anthonayy:
Earpiece Speaker Grille

Does the speaker grille emit sound when the MT4GS plays music, media, and videos, or is there only sound on the speaker on the back of the phone?

In layman's terms, shouldn't sound be coming from both the front and back speakers of the phone when playing music and videos?

It's something I've noticed... That wasn't present with my previous phones.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] FIX3000:
Maybe I am not understanding the question, but the only sound that comes out of the earpiece on this phone is from phone calls. The speaker on the back is for speakerphone or if you're playing music/videos without headphones plugged in.

I've never seen or heard of a phone that played sound out of the earpiece and the external speaker though.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Droidmoder:
My biggest gripe with the mt4g slide is lack of support and insane amount of bloatware.

Search Order And Chaos

or dungeon defenders.

The games that we can get normally crash. Im not talking about fruit ninja or ant smasher.

Other than that its fast as heck (coming from a G1) camera is awsome. I love wifi calling and 4g as well as decent battery life (for what I do). I almost think I should of got the Gx2 for gaming and support. But overall im VERY HAPPY with this phone, its a speed demon with multiple apps.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mcdeezy:
I want to play Order and Chaos so bad but it's not supported by our phone? What the hell is this? The My Touch 4G can play it but not our phones? So stupid.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Col.Kernel:
Ugh, I hate swype. Swiftkey X all the way!

And Swiftkey's incredible prediction works with the hardware keyboard too!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fxdstudios:
I always search and read although this one I have not found what I am looking for.

Issue:

Phone started to reboot over and over right after a phone call. It had been working properly for months never doing this before.

Anytime I boot AD NAND I get "INVALID BOOT IMAGE HEADER"

setup when issue started.

MAGLDR 1.13

CWM 3.0.2.4 135m

Typhoon CM7 3.3.0

I HAVE DONE THE FOLLOWING.....

TASK 29

Reflashed MAGLDR

Reflashed CWM

Used CWM to install typhoon CM7 3.3.0 and also tried 3.3.5 after re-doing those steps

I also tried hd2 ginerbread, Kingdom sprint wwe, and a few others..also re-doing everything first between them.

All of this yeilds the "invalid boot image header" error. It seems to be permanent???

Am I missing something? I have flashed over 40 hd2's and have never seen this error before.

The phone is my personal one and I could not even count how many times I have flashed it. Could the nand be corrupted or would that cause other errors installing magldr/cwm?

PLEASE HELP ME.....like I said its my personal phone and I have no backup

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!

Justin
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] invisiblebm:
Hi. I am not sure , but you can try to formar the SD card, because with the phone seems to be O.K. I am formatting always with Panasonic sd formatter , before flashing.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malybru:
Hi,

It sounds like your CWM partition is too small .

Are you sure you are flashing the correct CWM size according to your ROM's [OP]?

Try using KSUBEDI's TOOLKIT (Don't forget to thank him).

It's a simple way of partitioning your CWM.

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fxdstudios:
yes i make sure CWM is correct partition size

Yes I always make sure I use the recommended partitioning in the op of the rom I choose.

I have formatted my SD-card with the panasonic tool

as far as the toolkit. It may be something I did wrong but this started with my phone after my FIRST USE of the toolkit.......PROBABLY NOT THE TOOLKIT although I would love to know what I did to my phone.

I just flashed another HD2 about 10 minutes ago and no issues at all.

The only thing I can think of is possibly nand corruption but then again all things I try to do complete 100% except booting nand.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malybru:
Hi,

Did you transfer the ROM by cable or card reader?

Corruption can occur with cable(USB)transfers.

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fxdstudios:
card reader in my laptop.

Like I said I have done this numerous times. Close to 100 times I would guess. I do two hd2s for friends today. no issues with either. although mine is still giving the error no matter what I do.

First time I have seen this error and I do not care about my data or backups or anything of the sort.

I have done EVERYTHING to try and rectify this issue I am having to no avail.

I am stumped at this point
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fxdstudios:
bump I am unsure of what to try now
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] concreteman:
Did you find a solution????

I also have the invaild boot image header error.

This used to be my phone, but i have handed it down to an employee.

He has caused a fault where it force closes with android.process.media, especially when i go to market.

I thought i would update the rom and hopefully "delete/overwrite" the problem.

One thing i did was a backup with ROM manager and upgraded that to 4.

This phone will boot into the existing ROM - Nightlys typhoon 3.2.8, but if i try to go into recovery I get the error.

Anyone found the answer????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mootmetal:
well i dont think that 135 is the exact partition ....135 is used for nexus hd2 but for typhoon rom or hyperdroid rom u must use 150 mb systeme partition with 5 mb cach ...try from the start with task29 to clear everything and flash angain i'm sure it will work
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Unconn:
Are you still having this? I seem to be having the same problem now. If I restore a backup it will give me "invalid boot image header". If I put a new ROM over my backup it works fine. I have task 29d. Loaded cLK, CWM, and then a new ROM. Backed this up and then immediately restored it and got the same error when trying to boot. I can get into recovery fine. I have tried different cLK partition layouts too. ):
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rustydraft:
I did it too, this is the problem and the fix

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1040564
[HTC Incredible S] biomech91:
I recently installed Android Revolution, and I use GO SMS to handle my text messages. Ever since installing the new ROM, I sometimes have a problem where text messages sent by others get "stuck", as in they only show up when I've sent a text myself.

An example is that I send a message, a friend replies 5 minutes later, but this doesn't show up on my end until I've sent a text.

What could be causing this? I don't think I had this issue when running stock.

Thanks.
[HTC Incredible S] SimpleFear:
I'm also having issues with SMS on revolution... Some of my texts aren't getting sent, and every once in awhile I'll have no activity and then awhile later 10 texts all with timestamps from an hour beforehand get delivered all at once.

I had a lot of issues with texts before this though, my friends on stock rom/stock phone and his texts rarely send.

I'm ENG s-off, radio s-off, gingerbread radio, correct APN's (I'm pretty sure). I'm almost positive this is a problem with the ****ty network and not the rom.

Also every once in awhile I have to reboot, it'll say my SIM card doesn't allow access to the network, or I'll be roaming 24/7... these two are new with Revolution. Definitely having reception issues.
[HTC Incredible S] Raithmir:
Are you using the .22 radio?
[HTC Incredible S] biomech91:
Yes, I flashed 20.2804.30.085AU_3805.04.03.22_M as recommended before installing Android Revolution.

I have no other problems with the ROM, so I don't think mine is a network issue.
[HTC Incredible S] Raithmir:
I'd try the .27 radio if I were you. I had several texts being delayed or received late, and even a couple of people say they'd tried to ring me but couldn't get through.

Flashed the .27 radio a few days ago and haven't had any of those issues so far.
[HTC Incredible S] biomech91:
I'll give that a try this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!
[HTC Incredible S] cam975:
Any update as to how this worked? I noticed issues with delayed messages this morning.

I've read that it's a known issue with this model and there may be a fix coming in me July from htc.
[HTC Incredible S] neo-X:
How do you know this? They sent you an email?