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[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
I'd like to hear from other users as well what their thoughts are on having a tweaked version and a normal version or just one release.

I think Danny is away on vacation, so it might be a little while before a decision is made.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Aoi_sora9x:
I think there's no problem with releasing 2 versions.

people who really care about MIUI rom for milestone won't ask for a single version anyway.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] bnwg:
Would that be ok to have one normal version and separate flashable tweak zip files? In this case it is more flexible to apply the selected tweak per interest on top of normal version. Just a suggestion and don't know if it is workable.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
That's a good idea. I will need to look into that.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] tegezan:
GOOD idea.. plus multiupload isnt my favourite link so much better if we have one normal version and separate flashable tweak zip files.. :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
I am with 1.7.15 from MIUI (not the tweaked version). Battery life is better, even with the 1% battery steps.

Overall feeling: Smooth, snappy ROM.

I only want to try tweaked (this time..) for the new Market..! :)

BTW, skadude I don't think 1GHz and 900MHz can make a difference in battery life..

And a question: With CM7 I could overclock @ 1.1GHz with 66 vsel and everything was working fine. But with MIUI I had some reboots. Should I increase the vsel? And if yes, how much? 67? 68?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Klael:
Thanks for the version.

Full wipe is reccomended?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] ArtoD2:
Installed tweaked .15 on top of the "normal"... just wiped cache and dalwik... all seems to be OK, new market works and the phone seems quite snappy... took some pictures without camera hang (basically the only thing that has been bugging me)... so, so far so good, or so! (What?) ;p
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
I'm not on vacation :P just a little side tracked on other projects

It's workable, but the amount of effort (as well as issues) wouldn't be worth it, thus the two versions. You can have stock with minimal tweaks or all the bells.

I don't like file hosting sites too. OTA updates are in the works (I have it all working already) but it would cost more then I currently have to spare on a server (I'm unemployed atm).

There is nothing I would love more then direct downloads and OTA updates.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
OK, installed 1.7.15 tweaked.

- New Market is awesome!!! :)

ROM seems very smooth and snappy. I get about 50MB free RAM.

Can anyone answer me what vsel to use for 1.1GHz? Thank you..
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] ngonchan:
And, how about gaming with some games like Gun Bros?? Thanks :D
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
Only games I play are Angry Birds and recently Zenonia 3. Those play quite well.

I will try Gun Bros if you want, and come back to you. ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Considering that the stock OC is 1000/64, you can try increasing the vsel by 1 and seeing if there are stability issues or not.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] IFLPI:
sorry for kinda OT question, but I cannot instal gene widget a.k.a. news and weather widget on MIUI, can anyone help ? I ried even flashable version and it didnt appear..
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] phlppk:
please just release one version only. i cant decide ;)

thanks a lot for your efforts!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] infernose:
i think miui for milestone is a lost cause... the developers had gone and made the rom unfriendly for lesser phones...i installed in the morning...by nightfall all applications were running so slow i had the non-responding screen pop up after waiting eons. even the browser gives up and forceclose the moment i try to click on any link...back to froyomod 2.9.0... everything flies!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Have you tried supercharging the ROM with Zeppelinrox's script? Or Juwe's memory optimization script?

I don't use the stock Android browser either. I use Dolphin Browser HD, it's a lot faster.

Just because the browser is slow (which it is for most GB ROMs), doesn't mean it's the ROM's fault.

You can't compare FroyoMOD to MIUI either, seeing as one is Froyo and the other is GB. Comparably, I think that Danny and my version of MIUI is quite good for the hardware that we are working with.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] infernose:
the only thing i really like about gingerbread is the battery usage framework, then again some of my apps didn't work on 2.3 either. so its back to froyomod for me. even the chinese folks in miui forums are lamenting about the developers focus shifting to more powerful phones...if the miui roms are going to require more and more resources, there's only so much optimisation scripts can do. can't change the fact that our hardware only have a paltry 256MB of memory.

there was once when miui was great, ran fast and provided superior features over the eclair rom. seems like experience of the miui roms(on milestone) started going downhill since sept 2010. the last couple of times i tried the miui roms...they didn't look like they're worthy of daily-use.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] :
No ext partition = No apps moved to ext, even if scripts are installed.

My suggestion was for a person who has an ext partition but doesn't want to use apps2ext.

If you dont have ext partition, just flash the rom. apps will remain in internal space.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] PhatUgly:
Extracting those two files doesn't work to fix the Keyboard. Thanks for the hint though!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
What is wrong with the keyboard in the first place?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Sörnäinen:
The hardware keyboard behaves erratic - it doesn´t deliver special characters when a hardware-keyboard-button is pressed long, like "ö" would only look like ooooooooooo, and a $ is a $ and can´t be turned into a £.

Also some people have troubles when pressing "6" on the hardware keyboard, they only get a "<".

It doesn´t happen all the time, just sometimes, but it renders the hardware keyboard pretty much unusable.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
That's an issue with how Miui interacts with the hardware keyboard. I don't believe this can be fixed from without the source code. You best getting in contact with MIUI.cn at http://en.miui.com/guestbook.html
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
For keyboard, you should use multiling:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.klye.ime.latin

Excellent gingerbread keyboard, with dictionaries and many languages.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
If that was directed at us then I believe (not sure about SkaDude) that this ROM should be English only just to keep things simple.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Neldrin:
How is this ROM better than eybee's / lalit's? Overall performance is better or not? Can someone say sth about it?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
This is pretty much stock with just a few changes.

Compair the changes logs if you wish to know more.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
Miui:

Good news! We'll release a stable version of MIUI ROM in July! You wanna install it? :-)

MIUI could be going stable (i.e. dropping the BETA tags) sometime in July!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] rezashah:
Android Market Problems

The Rom is really nice, altough I am experiencing problems with the Android Market: I cannot access/install my paid apps. They are not listed in my apps and I have to pay again, if I want to install them ... also some other apps do not appear while searching for them.

Reza
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
Did you upgrade or do a full wipe?

What apps are you having trouble with?

I'm not sure why you are having such problems as the build.prop should be set to the US market.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
I am not sure about a multilanguage ROM, not sure how much of a hassle that is.

As for the Market not showing some apps, perhaps the version with MIUI stock is an older version. You can try flashing the Gapps and seeing if that helps.

Another thing you can do is delete the .android_secure folder on your SD Card, or wiping cache and data from Market under Applications > All.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] rezashah:
I did a full wipe... there are several apps... like knots pro...

I did try to set it to US market with MarketEnabler, but still in my apps there are only "installed" apps and no bought/paid ones ...

I already did wipe cache/data of Market in Apps/all
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Try deleting .android_secure from your SD card, I believe that contains data about your paid apps.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
Brought applications are directly tied to your account and they will follow you where ever you go.

I would suggest (although it is a huge pain) flashing CM7 and see if all is well there, if it is, redownload and flash Miui again.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] alicheusz:
Miui on milestone at this point is nowhere near stable rom
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Sörnäinen:
What makes you say that? The latest eyebee, which I am still using, is complete.

The only problems I face from time to time are happening with very RAM-intense apps like Motonav or Gmail - I need to raise the VM heap to use them.

Besides that I don´t see flaws.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] jonatasmz:
you tried to play games? :P

a lot of games doesnt work because of the low memory (games that work in other ROMS)

cya
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] IFLPI:
Where is the line to turn the JIT off ?? Since 1.6.17 v3 from eyebee I dont see the proper line in biuld.prop.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] wisefreakz:
Big true...milestone hw sucks

... you guys are magicians lol
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Point taken. It's very hard for people to develop ROMs for our phones if they aren't built straight from source. Our phones are too outdated to be able to keep up with the latest ports, but the best is being done.

I think that MIUI is good for daily-use, but it isn't as snappy as some people may report for other ROMs. I spent a good 3 months on stock Android 2.1, so anything now is worth waiting a couple seconds more :D
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] zeppelinrox:
Juwes script is VERY basic stuff. A few sysctl tweaks. And kanged from people like imoseyon.

Juwe doesn't give credit or resources or explanation of anything.

Not to mention the fact that it's all included in AOR's kernel tweak plus alot more
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Haven't actually looked at the script to see what's included in it. I've just heard of it and that's about it.

By the way, how's v8 coming along? Any idea on when it might release?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] tegezan:
almost a month with miui, no fc or random reboot for me.. thx to skadroid.. :)

compared with other gb rom, for me miui is the best for daily use n multitasking..
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] infernose:
glad miui worked out for ya, guess i'll be staying with froyomod until something else comes along. or i get a new phone :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] IFLPI:
Miui is great with zepp's scripts. Some ppl expect from miui gingerbread more than from froyo aosp. That's some misunderstanding. Shame that eclair or froyo miui isn't being developed anymore by miui team. Some ppl would be happy with that.

Ps: any idea why the genie widget isn't compatible with miui? Some framework issues?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
Should we use zeppelnirox's script with MIUI?

I thought that you used the script's settings in your ROM.

Personally I am very pleased with MIUI, perhaps a little more Multitasking capabilities will be welcomed.

+ The feature nadlabak provided with CM7 RC10, the ability to show who is calling you on the notification bar, if you are navigating, for example. So navigation continues un-interrupted.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Sörnäinen:
I can't complain about speed with Miui, but I did when I used a theme and had 20 more apps installed. Gingerbread (and Miui) eat a lot of RAM, and the Milestone has not much of it anyway... that may slow down the phone for some power users.

I have a different problem.

It seems wirh rhe latest update I can't use the phone function. The phone rings, but if I aswer, I can't hear the caller, and also I am not being hear by him.

That's not so great. Anybody else has experienced that or can give me a hint?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
Have you tried reinstalling latest update?

I have no problem at all with anything.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Sörnäinen:
I will give that a try.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] ArtoD2:
True, but it's pointless to complain about the compatibility with the older and crappy devices where there are devices that can run circles around milestone and can handle all the eyecandy you can imagine... That said, it would be nice to see devs coocking up something like older miui for older and crap hardware devices...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] zeppelinrox:
I will release a beta soon then add more features with updates
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Sörnäinen:
I strongly oppose that Miui is a lost cause. It works fine, just don't expect an old phone to be as fast as new ones. Especially since the Milestone was underpowered right from the beginning.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] jackeh070:
"Why is my Milestone so much slower than Sensation? They all lied to meeeeeeeee"

^^ A stupid joke.

Imo MIUI runs really well on our oldie that was hardly meant to run stock Froyo.

The only issue I'm having is music app being killed when I run something else (browser or twitter). I think I've gotta try some other memory script :P
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pcphobic:
Our Milestone is not slow...just not enuff RAM to handle multi-tasking due to Gingerbread demanding more RAM in order to get the OS running.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] jackeh070:
True. There is not much difference with graphics/cpu performace between MS and, lets say, Desire HD. Ram is just sad. Did anyone try to change the RAM stick in MS to bigger one, btw? Those are terribly cheap...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
From what I have heard, the RAM is somehow linked to the CPU in such a way that upgrading the RAM is impossible. They may even be on the same socket.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
These are PCB / SoC. You can't just upgrade RAM like you would in a desktop / laptop.

Only thing we could do is enable SWAP, but that's never gonna happen.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Sörnäinen:
I assume you meant "can´t just upgrade"?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Babis_ECE:
@ skadude & DannyDroid:

What are the Memory Settings in your ROMs?

Should we use zeppelinox' script on top of your ROM?

Because I was under the impression that you have included zeppelnirox's settings in your MIUI edition.

Thanks for your time. :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
I did, aha. Fixed.

In the stock version, there isn't any.

You can use the script if you wish but I don't include it as I find the memory management just fine.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] tegezan:
someone interest to mod miui launcher..?

http://forums.miuiandroid.com/showthread.php?4281-Walkthrough-Miui-Launcher-Mods
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Steve Stiffler:
I am unable to get my applications in the market in my apps section,I tried clearing the data also I tried restarting the phone but to no avail.what to do.? please help.

Also I am unable to type : ; or ) using ALT key..

I am using 15 beta version
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] adrianj:
hi, im new to this rom. would like to ask, why is my battery draining on this rom? i have not used any OC, (and im using the G.O.T Open Recovery). plz advice. or is there a script somewhere to apply with the Open Recovery to stop the drainage.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] eliranx:
I have an ext3, i used to have an intrnal space problem which i solved by replacing the "07app2ext" in system/etc/init.d so that my dalvik-cache will also be on my ext. in the 15.7 version its not working.. did u change somthing?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Klael:
Nice options.

I want my icons sorted alphabetically. Anyone knows a mod to do it?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
You can try calibrating your battery using http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1024867

Or perhaps you have an app that is keeping your phone awake the entire time. Take a look at your battery use and see what might be draining the battery.

Have you tried those update.zip files at the end of the post? It seems to be an old mod that is still being discussed, but not updated.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] tegezan:
Yes I have.. Doesn't work.. since miui change weekly, launcher2.apk changes too rights..?

plus I try to decompile apk and edit dimens.xml, but still no luck.. to many different string in dimens.xml..

thats why i posted here.. maybe one from you guys know how to make it works.. :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Exactly, especially seeing as the Launcher was overhauled with 1.7.15. I am not a pro at decompiling and at editing xml's, I've only done it once.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
Apps are tied to your account when you download them from the market. If you download the from other places then they wont show up in the Market.

You can try TB and using the Market doctor link, if not, your only option is to re-download them from the Market.

Issue with the DSI fix. This will (hopefully) be fixed in this weeks build.

What versions are you using?

Also, check you have the correct 07app2ext.

Nope.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Abaddon:
can I try the new DSI-fix to this rom?

nvm, im trying it now
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
Yes, you can.

Just replace dsifix.ko file with the new one.

The new fix will be included in this weeks release as I don't see any point adding it right this second as testing is still on going.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Abaddon:
I agree :)

but Im testing it right now too.

will post feedbacks asap :0
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] hwithv:
Does this MIUI support Apps2ext? I install ext3 for my MS but i find out that it may not support ext3. am i right? any advise?

(How to move dalvik-cache and data to ext3? my internal memory is still the same after using ext3.)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Yes, MIUI has support for apps2ext, your apps should work just fine.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] hwithv:
my apps works well but the internal memory is not increased after using ext3 like an attachment

Sometimes i reboot the phone informs that apps are not installed and i must reinstall the ROM. now the apps work again. pls see the attachment

any advise?

thank you so much for your hard working.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
Odd.. What you can try and do, is take the 05mountsd and 07app2ext scripts from CM7 (in system/etc/init.d) and replace them in MIUI then reboot. I know that kabaldan uses ext3, so his script must work. He might have updated it and the script that I include is outdated.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] adrianj:
hi danny! thanks for the reply regarding my battery issue on the phone. im a complete newbie to this but so far, i've figured out how most of this works. if possible can you guide me on my progress with my milestone?

1st, i flashed stock ROM using RDS Lite - .sbf file

2nd, i flashed the vulnerable O.R - .sbf file

3rd, put Androidiani O.R into SD Card & load it. Root phone and fix 2.2.1 bugs

4th, download the MIUI ROM and put it into SD Card. Load Androidiani O.R and apply update.

5th, wipe Dalvik - Data - Cache

6th, reboot.

Question 1: Should i wipe before and after applying update?

Question 2: Should i overclock using the Andraoidani O.R or using the Milestone Overclocker app (http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/downloads/list)?

Question 3: What do i need to do in this ROM to push all my apps to SD?

Question 4: Is the DSI-Fix a manual update or integrated into the ROM so i don't have to do anything?

I hope someone can help me. So sorry for asking too much. Thank you and I appreciate it lots!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
1-To apply the update, wipe data and both caches if coming from another ROM. Just caches will be for updating the ROM.

2-I find the best way to overclock is by editing the 10overclock file in /system/etc/init.d, so long as you know what voltages and vsels you want.

3-I recommend using apps2ext, as it gives you many more opportunities in terms of storage. You can hold more apps, as you are tricking your phone into thinking the partition is part of the phone memory.

4-The DSI-fix (with no screen tearing) is already included in the ROM, it was included by the MIUI.cn team. Kabaldan's latest DSI fix has not been applied, but might be on this Friday's build, depending on testing.

Hope this helps.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] tegezan:
edited.. late reply..
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] hwithv:
thanks. but where can i find these scripts?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
-Download CM7 (https://github.com/downloads/nadlabak/android/update-cm-7.1.0-RC12-11.07.14-Milestone-signed.zip)

-Open using 7zip, navigate to /system/etc/init.d and take 05mountsd and 07app2ext

-Take the two scripts from CM7 and place into your /system/etc/init.d folder for MIUI, flash ROM, and see what happens. Or you can take the two scripts, and use Root Explorer to put them in init.d, reboot and see.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] adrianj:
Thanks for the prompt reply!

1. Now i understand. So its just the 2 caches for same ROM. Got it.

2. Overclocking is using a file in the SYSTEM folder or SD Card? how do i go about editing it?

3. Apps2ext is a program? hmm.. any prerequisites? like formatting the SD Card first?

4. I hope this DSI fix will fix my battery drain, for now i switched back to stock rooted froyo 2.2.1 to sustain some battery juice for my daily use. Im in Malaysia and it is Thursday today. hopefully the new rom will be updated soon! waiting patiently for it.

One more question. What are the safe values for overclocking for this ROM?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] hwithv:
Thanks for your guide .i will do and give you the feedback
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skadude66:
1-Any and every ROM will have you wipe the caches, it's not just MIUI-specific.

2-Overclocking is handled by the 10overclock file, in the init.d folder. As the name says, it gets initialized at each boot, so if there is ever anything you want to set up when your phone boots, you can place it in any script (or create one) in init.d

3-Apps2ext is more of a storage type than a program. It creates an ext partition, and the 07app2ext script will trick your phone into thinking that the ext partition on your SD Card is actually phone memory that it can use to store apps.

4-With MIUI, it's hard to get great battery life if you don't do a bit of tinkering. To get good battery life, you can turn off data when you are on WiFi or you don't need it, turn off application syncing, etc. The DSI fix might help a little bit, but it might not be as noticeable as with other ROMs, with less complex UI's.