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[EVO 4G General] nerrollus:
Not surprising. I've been pretty unhappy with Sprint in data, voice, and text since I signed up with them. Unfortunately they're the only unlimited carrier left in this area. Wishing I would have been able to get in with AT&T when they had unlimited plans.

My work phone is through AT&T and I always have a stronger signal and faster connection with them. :/
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Holy crap. I'd stfu if I got anywhere remotely close to those sprint speeds.
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
I think I'm the only one on XDA who gets peak WiMax Speeds.
[EVO 4G General] id_twin:
Haha, OP is mad:mad::mad::mad:..Loser, plain and simple, you don't like sprint, get off the network..Quit crying about the speeds and flaming anyone who defends it..It's obvious you're a broke ****, who can't afford at&t, verizon, or any other service other than sprint..So quit whining, and get used to the speed you got..Get a life loser..Haha:eek:
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
You had to be planking on top of the cell tower to get that.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Minus the fact that changes will be made to their network, switching to DO Advanced when it's officially available would be the wisest thing to do. Rev. B is a second option, as it's already included in most of their high end devices.

Sent from the Sensation 4G with T-Mobile.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Last night, I was planking on your m...

...otherboard?

...otorboat?

...assive ego?

;-p
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
LOL! I thought so too but I've yet to spot a wimax tower in the area.
[EVO 4G General] pottyvick:
My speeds on sprint are not that great but I'd much prefer the pricing and plans of sprint then any other carrier. If i would switch, it would more than likely be to tmobile (while its still exist).
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Same here **** big red and their tricks and the extra cost they had to get a EVO knock off to get a good phone lol only thing that sucks for me on Sprint random dead spots for two seconds here and there
[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
I have also been fed up with Sprints network speeds for a while. They charge us an extra $10 for "premium data" when there is nothing premium about it. I don't use the speedtest app because I've found it to be highly inaccurate but all of my friends on other networks seem to have a much higher speed.

And wimax is a ****ing joke. Unless you are out in the middle of a wide open area, standing still, it's garbage. Anytime you get in your car and drive somewhere you will lose signal, and anytime you go indoors you will lose signal.

The whole unlimited data part doesn't really affect me because after checking my data usage history last night I found that I have never gone over 1.5 GB per month. So even if I had a 2 GB cap, I don't think I would ever go over it.

I'm just not really sure where to go with this. I want to stay with Sprint and get a new phone upgrade in a few months but they are clearly falling behind with their network. So I don't know if I should wait until my contract expires and switch to Verizon. Their 3G just keeps getting slower from the increased number of customers they are taking on. And I'm sorry but they really just need to start over from scratch with 4G. Wimax coverage is WAY too spotty, drops the second you start moving, and is near useless indoors. Clearwire is constantly having financial problems and lots of money is what you need to develop a better network. Sprints whole deal with LightSquared doesn't make sense, because all of their recent test have wreaked havoc on GPS signals and that is NOT going to fly with the FCC and oh idk everyone else in the world that uses GPS. I understand they have this whole "network vision" plan laid out but I just feel like it's all talk. Verizons network kicks ass and they got it right with their LTE network, ATT's network kicks ass where their 3G is almost as fast if not even with Sprints 4G and they have still yet to roll out a 4G network. Sprint doesn't really seem to be doing a whole lot and their network is just getting worse and worse with the increased customers they are taking on.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I hate it when they call the speed test app wrong, what about this then?

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2hzjqk9.jpg

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[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
Imo want to test ur speed download a file and see what speed it is downloading at or time it
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
The actual speedtest android app is known to give false results on some devices. Now, weather or not the Evo under 3g or 4g is included in that I'm not sure, but the Thunderbolt was one of them.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Ah got ya, still pulled down pretty fast speeds with speakeasy. Actually it was faster...

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[EVO 4G General] spider2346:
Yes Sprint 3G speeds may be a little slow at times but then again my bill is also $60 less then your average AT&T and Verizon smart phone user. I'm more then happy with what I got knowing that people pay double what I pay.....
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I just don't understand why people don't actually try them out for the 30 days before they settle. I know some people got screwed with data after their 30 days and that sucks, but they should have their data back to normal and probably better soon enough. But for those who settled on them with it sucking in the first place, I don't feel sorry for you at all. We all want the best deal available, but sometimes you just have to pay more to get what you want. That's life.

Pocket posted...
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Always recommend doing it from the actual website instead of the app since the app gets mixed results if the phone can do flash. That, or tether it to a laptop or something and speedtest it then.
[EVO 4G General] ncfastls1:
Speakeasy is what I use, it has always given me accurate and similar speeds. I was referring to the speedtest.net app being inaccurate. I'll be sitting in the same spot, same signal, and doing back to back tests the results are all over the place compared to speakeasy which seems to have much more consistent results
[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
this doesnt surprise me at all.
[EVO 4G General] redyns:
I get very good Sprint 3g speed where I live. I rarely get below a megabyte down. At 2:50 pm I got about 1.98. From the speedtest.net site. Not the app
[EVO 4G General] hurrycaine3000:
Why does anyone care about this. Just use the service that serves your needs. just a thought here, but I Ran multiple tests using wireless hotspot on MIUI Rom, and I am getting close to 2MB download speeds on Sprint's 3g network. I'm sure not complaining with all the free data I can use. That's just me though. I can surf the web and do pretty much anything I need to at those speeds. Especially since MIUI's ROM doesn't support 4g yet anyway. I am curious though about how these tests were done, and who did them. (pay no attention to the men behind the curtain). regardless T-mobile had almost to coverage where I live, at&t had nothing I wanted, and verizon was not for me. not a fan of the droid. again, that's just me.
[EVO 4G General] 1eddie5:
Sprint is WINNING!

Everybody here that still thinks SPRINT sucks is not looking at reality. Yes Sprint's data is kinda slow. its average. its not the best.

BUT look at verizon. they have the fastest 4g network but 3g takes a long time to even start loading a page. also they dont have unlimited anymore. nobody in their right mind in this terrible economy is going to shell out more money for more internet.

T-mobile's network is pretty good. but then goes the unlimited data. nobody is going to like EDGE internet/2g. its too darn slow. sure its unlimited but its ridiculus.

ATT's network is spotty, too expensive, overloaded alot, not unlimited. yes the 3g speed is good but only when its not traffic time.

Sprint's network 3g is slow but then you can do the 3g hack which boosts it to 1.65 average. then Wimax or /4g is slow compared to the other "4g" networks but its is alot faster then the $30 broadband cable internet from time warner cable. yes wimax is terrible in passing buildings and has a couple of blocks radius but you can boost the signal by modding some codes on your phone or putting a tinfoil sheet near you window where the signal is to boost it. ONE MORE THING. IT IS TRULY UNLIMITED!!!! I USE AT LEAST 8 GIGS A MONTH ON TETHERING PLUS ALL THE EXTRA SURFING AND VIDEOS AND NETFLIX ON MY EVO. MY BILL IS STILL THE SAME. and no im not paying for the tether im rooted with wifi tether installed.

NOTE: Sprint is unlimited, cheap, and somewhat reliable. Sprint is gaining lots of new clients everyday for being what it is. plus the new hot phones it is getting. People need to save money is these hard times and sprint understands that.

For people who can afford to pay more than ok go ahead with Verizon the 4g is good but like i said 3g is not.

PS:I think as myself having a very good and counting opinion on this as i have been on all these networks. And i chose SPRINT and it has not failed me.
[EVO 4G General] hurrycaine3000:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention I did my 3g speed tests with the 3g Hack.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
If you used the 3G hack then its Verizons data speeds you got anyway.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
He's referring to removing the proxy.
[EVO 4G General] theoner1:
How do you do proxy hack on Miui rom?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Flash back to sense.

Modify it.

Flash back to Miui
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
According to the tests, Verizon's EVDO/3G is clearly faster. Not sure where you are getting that it's not.
[EVO 4G General] hurrycaine3000:
Yes, I realize this. that's why I posted the fact. but oh well, just means I get the best of both worlds. phone I want, and data speeds I like. win, win, winning:)
[EVO 4G General] hurrycaine3000:
sorry forgot to put the quote I was responding to above.
[EVO 4G General] hurrycaine3000:
agreed, that's why we do the hack. Thank you to however figured that out by the way. wouldn't be using MIUI ROM -4G without it.
[EVO 4G General] cwbristow@cox.net:
Isn't the results of this testing/survey entirely dependent on which carrier just finnished and started using their newest technology,

Isn't Sprints wimax the oldest of the operating 4G networks,

So Sprint would be the fastest if this test/survey is redone just after Sprint completes its next network upgrade,

As would V,ATT,TMO, just after they complete network upgrades,

Doesn't that make the test/survey completely cyclical,

Based on status of individual network upgrades?
[EVO 4G General] dmora01:
I have the slingbox for almost 3 years if I am not wrong and started using it with my touch pro and was nice two year ago, now with the evo, slingbox sucks bc keeps buffering most of the time but when I force to roam with verizon works nice.

Sprint used to be better! they have nice phones, nice voice service but data is a joke. :confused:
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Care to share the "hack"? Like to see if I can get any faster.

Edit: disregard, I have that one applied as far as I know (I'm on Decks rom).

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[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
He's talking about using the Verizon PRL I think.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
No I think he's referring to changing the proxy from 8085 to 0 and something else to 0.0.0.0. Its all through epst.

Pocket posted...
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Except that if you go over 300 MB / month for a couple of months they'll terminate your account on short notice.
[EVO 4G General] 1eddie5:
Its here in california. i used to have verizon and it was regular 3g speed. and about 2 weeks ago i was rooting a guy's htc desire and the 3g was not slow but took a long time to start loading. here in LA.
[EVO 4G General] 1eddie5:
What company are you talking about? I have Sprint for almost 2 years and i started by using about 2 gigs of data every month. then with the evo i started using 5 gigs and now i use at least 8 gigs a month of data. my phone bill is always the same and i never have over charges.
[EVO 4G General] BartJJ:
Verizon is and has been the leader in terms of network quality. Anyone that thinks differently is delusional because (I know it's over used but still) maps do not lie. Vzw has the most 3G coverage and the fastest 4G that is supposed to be covering all current 3G areas in the next 2 or 3 years. You really can't beat that =\ if only vzw would give us some reasonable prices with some Vanilla android phones. (maybe even a nexus?!)
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
lol :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hilarious!

You know that map that they used against At&t in those commercials...what this map...?

Well that map includes roaming towers on other networks.

In other words,

it's a lie.

By a much smaller margin than you think, maybe.

What are you a Verizon commercial?

First of all, not 4g. No one has 4g.

Second of all, if you honestly think LTE is going to cover every area of 3g that fast...well...Verizon marketing did their job, eh?

Some people man...shake my head
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
We're talking about data roaming. If you do the PRL hack to constantly roam on V's towers you will risk getting terminated.
[EVO 4G General] 1eddie5:
Oh alright. Well why yould you need the prl hack to roam on verizon if with the 3g hack you get the same speeds.

@BartJJ dont look at the stats to base the speed. Do the actual speed tests yourself and you will see the truth.

@mattykinsx you rock. Cant say it better than you.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The 3G hack gets you the same speed? Uh, no. Do 10 speed tests before and after, there won't be much of a difference. Changing the proxy ain't no holy grail.
[EVO 4G General] 1eddie5:
Well i mean not exactly the same speeds but almost the same speeds. and verizon also gets lots of dropped calls here in LA. i had it for 2 years because of the contract but i had poor signal at my house and lots of dropped calls even if i wasnt at my house. One thing is that yes the call quality is good but hell i can still hear the other person with sprint.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I know youre the boards Sprint spokesperson and all, but facts are facts. Whether its marginally or not VZW clearly has better coverage and data speeds than Sprint. And if you doubt their LTE abilities, you must not be paying attention to how fast theyre turning 4G on in cities. They even came back into Atlanta and expanded the coverage out almost double what it was on the initial rollout.. unlike Clear who hasnt done any improvements here since they turned wimax on. And how is showing roaming areas on their map "lying"? Didnt Sprint just add roaming areas to their maps and do basically the same exact thing?
[EVO 4G General] 1eddie5:
like @mattykinsx said there is no real 4g. the companies are selling it like that because it is faster. yes verizon does have more coverage but not alot more than sprint. LTE IS too new and will have lots of speed bumps like the 4g outages. also there isnt even an option to turn the antenna off unless you have root or know the code. Also i dont think verizon will launch LTE everywhere there is 3g it would cost it too much money. also with its high prices and data caps its starting to lose customers.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
"Sprint spokesperson" my ass.

I'm so sick of that card being played simply because I don't jump on the Sprint whinefest bandwagon and I actually question stupid reports (like this very speed test comparison).

As far as Sprint "lying" about their maps?

Interestingly enough, Sprint is the only of the big four that does not include roaming on other networks on their coverage map.

Go look yourself if you don't believe.

Edit: How is showing the roaming coverage maps lying?

Because you don't get 3g in those areas.

Yet during the campaign [mainly against At&t] that's EXACTLY what was being suggested.

"Here's a map for something but it's actually for something else".....that's known in every day terms as....a lie.
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
I'd have thought by now that a debate between the 3 of you would be like sending 3 1959 Chevy Bel Airs into a brick wall.

P.S. The Bel Air doesn't win.

Those tests will shift come 2012.

4G tests as they are now, are pointless, Sprint's network is overloaded with Clear & Xfinity WiMax users & they are going on to LTE, Verizion's has hardly any significant user volume on it's LTE network. The HSPA+ (network in general) on T-Mobile pathetic indoors, its alot like WiMax & AT&T's 3G is faster than their HSPA+ 4G & They'll be (doubtful) absorbing T-Mobile for their network LTE.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Your snide remark withstanding, everything you say is completely accurate.

Let's add to that the fact that T-mobile's user volume is also extremely low, hemorrhaging thousands of customers a month.
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
funny thing is that you can say the same exact thing about sprint when you compare sprint to verizon.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sprint's been adding customers since the evo .....
[EVO 4G General] johnjjschmidt:
I honestly believe that Virgin Mobile and Boost are costing Sprint post paid customers bandwidth. Before they really became popular with the unlimited data plans I would consistently get around 700 kbps with my Hero. Soon after it was about 400 kbps on average. Once I got the EVO on launch little did I know that it would be crippled and that my speeds would be even slower still.

Well, a year later I now have the myTouch 4G with T-Mobile and couldn't be happier.

Sent from myGlacier.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea, PREPAID customers. Will be interesting to see how those numbers shift now that everyone else has their own "4G" offerings.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea, and if you think about it look how big of a headstart Sprint had on VZW and how fast they were caught and passed.. and steadily being left behind in terms of expansion. And yes, you actually can disable LTE without being rooted. How do I know.. because I have a TB. As far as it costing too much money, its not as if VZW doesnt have it to spend.
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
This is because Verizon actually builds & owns the LTE equipment so they have more control but it's costing them billions, Sprint does not own the WiMax equipment & they won't own the LTE equipment either so buildout is in the hands of the parnters with shared costs/profits. The LTE equipment from LightSquared is up & will be active for customers in 2012 & complete by 2015.

So between the two, no one is really getting a large footing futher in the "4G race" or expansion.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Let's review:

Verizon: 102 million ish subscribers.

Sprint: 49.9 million ish subscribers.

Verizon's plans tend to be 1.5 times the price of Sprint's.

If Verizon's network wasn't growing faster than Sprint's, Verizon would be the biggest scam since Bernie Madoff.​

[Not trying to suggest that Verizon isn't already a scam, it is]
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Individual plans are not that much more expensive.
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
A basic individual plan is pretty limited & costs about the same as a Sprint smartphone plan, if you have a basic Verizon messaging phone :p. A comparable individual plan w/ a Smartphone gets pretty pricey very fast under Verizon .vs Sprint's lowest once you add text & data.

It'd be nice if they weren't so wallet hungry, at least they aren't as greedy as AT&T. :/
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
As Norio said, a comparable plan is...

How aren't they?

At&t tends to be cheaper than Verizon. (Very small amount but still)
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Huh? $59.99 (450 mins + unlimited texting) + $29.99 = $89.98. Ten dollars more.

When you consider that text plans are now virtually worthless because of Google Voice, you can get $39.99 for 450 minutes plus the $29.99 data add on, that's $69.98. Not bad.
[EVO 4G General] mufc1991:
Yeah that's why I say. I would like to know though if VZW charges a similar fee to Sprints spending limit charge? Because without it VZW is cheaper.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's still a 12% increased price over Sprint.

And it doesn't come with all the comparables... [say, free navigation] so when you're all said and done your price is somewhere in the range of 25 - 50% higher for the same thing. [Not doing the math for this conversation, sorry]

And no, I don't care if

you

don't use it.

Also, your loopholes are not basis for comparison here.

99% of people don't know about it and so it doesn't matter.

Furthermore, I'm sure I could find some loophole to make Sprint cheaper but again, not relevant.

[Not even including that with Sprint if you pretty much have a job or are a member of a credit union or a few other possible conditions you get a discount of what 12 - 25%? which would easily put Sprint at almost 50% cheaper even for an individual plan]
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
When cruching usage, yes AT&T can be.

Verizon's data situation for current customers is a bit better so I'll give them the nod. It's grandfathering at it's fairest. AT&T looks to be reactive with good offerings like this.

They quietly re-relased unlimited data only in reaction to Verizon getting the iPhone w/ unlimited data & them pulled it away promptly when it's arrival on a rival didn't spark a mass exodus.
[EVO 4G General] mufc1991:
1. Android phones have no use for Carrier Navigation apps.

2. Sprint and VZW have comparable employee discounts. I get the same on both for example.

3. For comparable services Sprint and VZW price-wise are neck and neck.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Who the F uses Sprint or Verizon navigation? Both are **** compared to Google Navigation which is free. You also do realize that Verizon has corporate discounts, right?

You're drawing at straws as usual. Verizon individual plans are not that much more expensive, and if you know what you are doing, it will be cheaper.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
1. Not everyone has an Android phone and just because you don't like Sprint Nav doesn't mean no one else does.

2. Don't know about that one but as I said it's not a fair across the border comparison. [Hey! Just like this "speed test"!!1]

3. Uh....no? Just no, not even close. Add navigation to that individual plan and it's already $120 for Verizon and $79.99 for Sprint. It wasn't "neck and neck" withOUT the navigation and it's certainly not WITH navigation.

Not sure what

you

think "neck and neck" mean...

First of all, I

don't care

what

you

find useful.

If I go to two different stores, pay the same price but get something more from one of the stores...the price is not a fair comparison.

I don't care if SOME might not use 'something more'.

Verizon does have some discounts but as I stated in that very post, discounts can't be considered in the comparison anymore than your little loophole. They don't apply to everyone.

Also, I'm going to tell you the same thing I said to 'detusueno' earlier in this thread...with different word usage...

Just because you make the claim that I am "drawing at straws" does NOT make it reality.
[EVO 4G General] KyleBryant:
Sprint is fast enough for me, I love sprint and I always will.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
1. Would you use Sprint Navigation over Google Navigation?

2. Accept the truth: Verizon is faster and has more coverage.

3. See 1. Also consider the fact that Sprint FORCES you into a texting plan. If you're not an idiot, and are a Android users which we all are here, you would realize that GV is clearly a better, cheaper alternative. And on Verizon, you are free to knock out texting and thus $20 dollars from the plan.

Edit: I'll add another question, if you could knock out $20 dollars off your Sprint plan by taking out texting and use GV instead, would you do it?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
1. This is the final time I'm going to tell you that it's not relevant what us XDAer's[which might make up .05% of the market] might do. (You ignoring the point)

2. When did anyone say otherwise? (You trying to redirect)

3. As explained why before, loopholes are not applicable for fair comparison as they are not applicable to all. And furthermore I will

guarantee

you will be closed if enough people use them, especially with Verizon. (You ignoring the point)

Response to your Edit: see number 1.
[EVO 4G General] mufc1991:
Does Verizon have any dual core phones out right now? I'm considering switching before the tiered data plans.