yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Hmmmm... this takes up bandwidth- from what? Crysis2 takes up tons of bandwidth and "

they

" can get away with it... this is just a bit of typing once ever 5 min... lol:p

Have some fun and think outside the BOX!

i.e. both Sprint and HTC have this code and the phones don't need to be unlocked to install a new ROM:p

lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Ya I will - but I was hoping the genius of the developers could hack something quickly... I don't know what I'm doing, other than "Brain-Storming":p

Brainstorming is a good first step to get over "the wall":rolleyes:

I get my 3VO monday:D
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I see what the OP is trying to say there is like a master program code that opens the door for the OTA to get pushed through.

I really would rather wait for a good program to come back such as unrevoked 3 and then AMON :D other then that im sure sprint has hidden there tracks really well because if they didn't this would be known world wide by now :D
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
There is no keygen for such a thing . There waiting on HTC to do a update to unlock the phone which should be soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
ok cool:D

does every phone have it's specific type of encryption?

I imagine they all have different "code-keys"

But, I wonder if anyone knows how the EVO was encrypted, or any of the older phones? Would that help?:o

I'm really pulling for the developers to come up with a "simlpe root" for the

3VO! :D

Using the computer to open files and "push stuff in a shell with pc3600.exe.zip.whatever.something.newfile... wasn't easy when I got my EVO when it was released(with "s-on"). lol
[HTC EVO 3D] CuzinBucksBx:
:confused::confused:

Alright, honestly we just need to wait for HTC to release a update...

Its been 24 hours and already some people are thirsty to root this bad boy...

Give it time
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Htc really locked this sucker down from what I remember then enough people started *****in and HTC CEO said it will not be locked down with that crazy encryption which would take year or more to break.

From what I know and read were waiting on them to unlock us and the devs to build stuff along with a easy root :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
Please, buy an iphone.

Oh, and never post in the Developer section again. OKTHANKSBYE
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I know that lol just been telling folks were waiting on HTC end to help us out now :D
[HTC EVO 3D] swatspyder:
The encryption can be thwarted... With a lot of time. By all means, you can start cracking the encryption, but let me know how that is working for you 500 years from now.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
What's an "i-phone" the one u use?

All developers seem to be stuck on getting root...

All I said is that "outside the box", Sprint and HTC can change the rom any time they want without root... HOW?:eek:

I want brainstorming.breaking.down.the.walls.results.exe! no excuses!:D

lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
ok thanks:(
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Lmao how did things get so off topic. There is no way for us to crack that encryption unless you had your own set of super computers running non stop.

Anyways hopefully within the next week we will have root.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bukem75:
Then do your brainstorming in general... Or, if you really think your ideas are full of merit, go to IRC and chat there.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
OK I was just getting carried away with some ''super sluth" getting the proper encryption....what if htc doesn't release the "unlock":confused:

I tried the phone in the store and it was very very cool! My original EVO is great but just tired looking...:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I own it and love it smooth as can be. HTC has too since CEO announced it alil while back. They can't back out. They helped on the evo tooo.
[HTC EVO 3D] watzone69:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofw
[HTC EVO 3D] Candar:
you should probably post up your super elite private-key generator so they can get started. i mean, its guaranteed to work eventually... somebody set this up as an app to try on the phone itself - put that 1.2 GHz to work :p

And hey at that point we can see how hot a '3vo' gets before it explodes
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
a for effort on the replies guys
[HTC EVO 3D] issafram:
LMFAO on the replies. Awesome thread.

Stephanie, you could be an optimistic, non-technical project manager one day who gets paid more then the developers you manage with amazing skillz.

Keep up the good work. LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] shabgard:
This **** is funny as hell, they should put an IQ test for whoever wanna register instead of that captcha word thingy. Hahahahha just made my night.
[HTC EVO 3D] VoXHTC:
I'm telling you, these phones weren't meant for the general public. FFS!

Who's idea was this anyway?
[HTC EVO 3D] tyler.durden:
x25000

3VO? Seriously? Maybe I can plug a gameshark into my phone and crack this bad boy and have it modified however I want once I enter a few codes... I can't believe no one has thought of that yet!

Sent from my '3VO' because that sounds so much faster and cooler than saying EVO 3D!
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
im sure ill get a PM from a mod for this but its perfect

im sure ill get a PM from a mod for this but its perfect and WHY in the hell is this in the DEV section
[HTC EVO 3D] easedrop:
Stephanie will go down in history for being part of the team that helped root the Evo3d. Let us not forget who started the brainstorming thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
At least she is trying, it may not be what is needed but its better then some of these ****s demanding root. Hell its better than scrolling the forums looking for the next thread you can attack! Really?

Stephanie95, next time please keep ideas/thoughts in general section. Development is for those who are "doing" the development. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] wasupwithuman:
Funny thread, but you guys are going a bit hard on her... She was trying to help, just tell her thats not how things work, and move on. No need to get insulting. For us we know its not that simple, but you all should realize that a lot of exploits were developed from a person thinking some insanely basic thing that the companies forgot to patch. So if HTC was a basic company that had just started making phones, it could be possible to use such a simple exploit to get root.... I'm pretty sure this method was used back when a smartphones first came out, not for root but for hacked up versions of wm6.... I'll have to double check but i could have swore people used the RUU in other ways then it was supposed be used. So take it easy on her, We should be glad a women has even come into the dev forum.

Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day, Teach them how to fish and you feed them for a lifetime.

So...

Original Poster (OP) This is an extremely easy exploit but has been patched by HTC already.

Thats all that needs to be said...

I would rather have a thread like this with a person trying to think, then a thread about some random question from a person who sits around like "Why dont we have root yet?"
[HTC EVO 3D] madsquabbles:
Just remeber... She's not giving you any. You don't have to be nice just bc you think It's a girl.

Sexist pigs. You treat idiot guys worse.
[HTC EVO 3D] wasupwithuman:
First off i'm married. Second, I try to treat people with respect. Third, I was brought up being taught how to treat a lady. So some people actually are nice without trying to get some. madsquabbles I'm sure you've done something in your life that a lot of people thought was stupid, but to you it might have been a legitimate question.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zabalba:
Remember gentlemen, there are no girls on the internet unless they provide you know what.
[HTC EVO 3D] RVDigital:
People REALLY? Not only has this thread gone to complete S**T, but some of you (above *cough*) are giving this community a bad image and making it an outright embarrassment for the rest of us. Even I've slammed people who don't follow the rules, but some of this crosses the line. I've already asked for this thread to be closed and I suggest that if you feel the same way, you do the same. Reporting the thread as useless or meaningless is MUCH more effective than some of the replies I've seen here.
[HTC EVO 3D] vinterchaos:
Funny thing is, if this was a obvious guy posting, this thread would be one of the largest flame fests ever seen on XDA.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
No, the largest flame thread ever was created by add119 in the hero forums. I reported this thread and about 5 others, hopefully we get some cleanup. Mods please close.

BANG! from my shooter...
[HTC EVO 3D] minieod:
what the **** is an 3vo???
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
+1

10 char
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
I agree 100%. Lets try to act somewhat civilized, people.

@ op

Sprint and htc can update the phone because they have the key that unlocks and relocks the encryption.

-----

3vo. That is all that needs be said.
[HTC EVO 3D] B-dub25:
No offence but that's not completely true ( I mean it is but it isn't ) in my college there is a security class and they have a encryption wall that's a SHA -2. We meaning about ten of us cracked it, I just played as a programmer and my friends had to do hash maths to find the algorithm. Now this is a little extreme but just shows that encryption can be broke. As my computer science professor say "If code can be written it can be hacked".
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
Of course it can, I don't think anyone denied that, it's the time involved that makes it nearly impossible.

-----

3vo. That is all that needs be said.
[HTC EVO 3D] desairs:
Is this real life? I heard the encryption key is dncornholio ... LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] fr0st:
This is by far one of the best threads in a while. Keep up the good work stephanie
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
What you cracked is absolutely nothing like the encryption thats on the phones now btw. Were talkin life times of brute force attack in order to crack it. Pretty sure were talkin 256bit AES encryption here and without a leak of the key or some redic luck your SOL with breaking that from what ive read up on.
[HTC EVO 3D] gingson:
Huh:confused: Did you mean Sprint, sooner or later, would spill the beans and expose the encryption code?:D
[HTC EVO 3D] B-dub25:
Yea I completely agree that this encryption is top notch, I was just saying that anything is possible but that's besides the point. If this is AES 256bit then it will be very hard to even thing about the maths involved, just look at the Droidx that still hasn't been cracked.
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
Some of the sharpest developers are working on it...it your method would to work...don't you think it would if been done before you posted this message? And even if this is the was like it was duty Samsung...this takes awhile....This is like saying at the 100 meter finals in the Olympics...make sure you put one foot in front of the other...this is not the movies but real life..
[HTC EVO 3D] myn:
x2

Give the OP a break. She asked a logical question and it sparked some great discussion.

For the folks that are recent owners of the 3D or perhaps new to xda-developers. This is not howardforums.. This forum is development focused and inherently promotes helping, sharing and collaboration.

Beating down on someone for asking a fair question isn't part of the charter.
[HTC EVO 3D] pyroboy1080:
The original EVO had no encryption, thus easy hack.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Thanks for all the interesting comments!

:D

k thanks everyone.... I just don't know how hard(or "mission impossible") it is with the phones to crack or root them... it's all really amazing!:)

I was also thinking that the encryption might by "leaked"... but that was a long shot...:rolleyes:

Anyway, there are quite a few people that believe the phones will become unlocked...eventually.... so good news 4sure!:D

The 3D movie looked really cool at Sprint.... I should get my 3VO on monday....

I love XDA!:p
[HTC EVO 3D] rhconcepts:
LOL I got to page 3 and couldnt take it any more. This is some funny ****. You must have been high when you thought this all up. Thanks for the good reading.

Oh what other cool things could the devs do? I know hack into PNC and have my house paid off for me. That should be a peace of cake.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sceleus:
lulzsecurity has been hacking the interwebs for a month now. We should get them in on this.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
I heard if you dip your 3d in salt water that is 78.65 degrees fahrenheit, then use the microwave to dry, it flashes s-off. I'll post my results in a few.

Edit: Woah, that was bad do not attempt. Will HTC void my warranty? Glad I got insurance from sprint.;)
[HTC EVO 3D] budroux:
Ok I skimmed through this thread and it kinda went somewhere but I got lost...LOL!!! I just want to say that on my EVO 4g I rooted s-off as soon as it came out. I then acepted every OTA that came out as it came out and never lost root. Not real sure why I did because I knew it could possibly brick it or I could lose root but I had another evo as backup. My point is that with the original s-off root every OTA installed over it and it did not break root. Even the very latest one. I did have to downgrade to 3.70 to get s-on and get the evo back to stock for the 3vo trade but I can say that not one of the OTA's broke s-off root on the evo 4g.

Not real sure if this is helpful and I am not real sure if I would suggest trying it but I had no problems whatsoever going this route. From what I saw none of the OTA's were trying to break our root but were just actual updates.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
Didn't that last ota break root?
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Hmmmmm how did my genious "idea" get so corrupted?:eek:

I'm not suggesting that some of you are not "really" able to leave your 3VO's in the sand overnight with a good family of "Oysters" and then come back in the morning, at low tide, to have the phone fully rooted and with a pearl inside...:rolleyes:

But, if root isn't possible without the unlocked bootloader, I was trying to figure out how to use the same system that HTC or Sprint uses to gain access.... then throw in what ever we want once the door opens. Kapiesh?:mad:

lol:cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Ya no root yet...:eek:

lol:p
[HTC EVO 3D] budroux:
Nope. On the 4g evo all the way to the latest did not break root. At least for me it did not. Unless there is a more recent one than the one a couple of weeks ago then the one after that. Can't remember the numbers but a couple days ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
Please don't pass on the drugs ur taking.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
+1

.......

:eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
OTAs always break root. To HTC root means there is a security hole.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
It's okay Stephanie, everyone had to start from somewhere. I won't make fun of your newbness :D
[HTC EVO 3D] kerms:
jesus christ how did this topic get past a page?
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Why call me JC?:confused:

I think you're just a "playa hater" :mad:

Many posts in the most popular thread talk about working this root method in technical terms... such as "faking a signature" or getting the phone to use a "gold card" .... getting root can't be a "one only" type of process... and isn't even needed to change roms from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4----> because Sprint and HTC can do it any time they want without root....:eek:

live long and prosper spock!:p

lol
[HTC EVO 3D] tyler.durden:
I don't see how the actual devs don't find your 'ideas' insulting... There are many brilliant people working on this situation and you somehow think you know better? Maybe you aren't understanding... Root means you have Superuser permissions to make any changes you want to the system. HTC and Sprint HAVE Superuser/administrator permissions, that is why they can make those changes. And making ANY serious changes without superuser permissions on a system is literally impossible. Anyone with a functioning brain should know this. That is why superuser permissions(aka root) are absolutely REQUIRED. It's not just an 'option'.

Maybe I think this is common knowledge because I have some experience running Linux which is what Android is, and I know that a 'normal' user can't make any system changes or sometimes even rename a damn file without superuser permissions. You can give the 'normal' user account superuser permissions, but one way or another you MUST have it. Case closed
[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
Myn - weren't you on irc earlier, this stephanie chick kept feeding us false inof, shes a troll. Ain't no rest for the wicked, aint no sympathy for a troll.
[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
You accidently put "Don't" in there...
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
give her a break if you dont like the topic ignore or you know the process.

insulting her does nothing everyone here in some way or another is learning or teaching not saying your wrong but be easy

CLOSE THIS THREAD
[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
Apparently you werent on irc when she tryed to act tougher than she did here.
[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
<stephanie> yes

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[23:08] <Shiggs^3vo> zing!

[23:08] <Shiggs^3vo> heh

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[23:09] <stephanie> 78 3c 21 4b 94 ad fd a9 3e 24 08 06 df 51 55 71

[23:09] <Shiggs^3vo> o.o

[23:10] <Shiggs^3vo> what be that stephanie?

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[23:11] <stephanie> the future

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[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
Wouldn't you be angry if someone said, "i have a surprise for you, close your eyes" and when you open them theres nothing but feces..
[HTC EVO 3D] vinterchaos:
she's telling everyone the future? o_O i'm kind of surprised this thread is still open
[HTC EVO 3D] SAShady:
I'm pretty sure I posted everything available from the ruu way before the future

Sadly, no private key
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
oh nooo hmm ok this is the future of this thread

CLOSED
[HTC EVO 3D] cor4twenty:
Funny but obvious troll. All the the eeks, mad, and "" give it away! Making girls sound stupid is cool man...really cool. Give yourself a high five next time you're in front of the mirror.
[HTC EVO 3D] Quiksmage:
I'm going to plant my 3D in soil. it will grow enough roots for everyone. don't worry, the brainstorming paid off.
[HTC EVO 3D] waterbound:
+1000 Thanks! It sounds ghay to say 3VO..but whatev

anyways..

Its an idea..I agree but not applicable here so we need to move on. There is already other threads about rooting the EVO 3D and DEVS are using it. Thanks for the idea
[HTC EVO 3D] bpdamas:
I don't think it is that crazy of an idea. However, root access gives you more access than just allowing you to flash roms. I think that is the more important point. Also, looking into the files for the OTA, what are some of these? There is one file labeled otacerts.zip.p. Not sure exactly what it means or if it is any value. Here is what I pulled from it. Does it even mean anything? It is under the following path of the OTA \patch\system\etc\security
[HTC EVO 3D] mmoser7:
S(he) is trolling you guys so hard.

"if I eat dandelion will i sick? is safe??"
[HTC EVO 3D] m4rk0358:
**Grammar police bust**

It's (s)he, not s(he).

:D
[HTC EVO 3D] No1ustad:
nice try steph. this forum is getting more and more hostile. I hope it's only because root hasn't been found yet.

Everyone on this site thinks they're l33t hax0rs and feels the need to thrash new ppl/ideas. The irony is, the true devs are actually pretty nice people and encourage these types of thought processes.

enjoy your phone, root will come soon.

p.s. the general forum tends to react better to out of the box thoughts.
[HTC EVO 3D] ViViDboarder:
Just a PS about the EVO 4G update...

It removes root and breaks the exploit used, yes. But if you were already S-OFF, you can re-flash whatever you want after.
[HTC EVO 3D] chrischoi:
He's mad. He can't figure it out.
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Thanks,

Got my phone it's awesome technology!

Love the speed- too bad it wasn't on LTE...

Hmmmm I might have to return it if we can't get root.... I liked the tether:o
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Time to give on "home brew cracks?"

After going over a few of the small posts ----> like over 100+ pages!.... I've seen tons of great ideas but no confirmed root, because of the encryption?:mad:

I guess if HTC doesn't unlock the bootloader to "S-OFF".... we're dead.

:rolleyes:

I'm thinking about what other phones might be coming next. Why beat a dead horse?:eek:

I'm not giving up yet - just prepairing to return the phone and "wait" for the "next best thing"....:p

Also, I'm thinking about going to Verizon.... the LTE is about 12megs down and 4 megs up everywhere around where I live...:cool:

AND the Thunderbolt is rooted...:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Wall coming down!

lol

It looks like there may be a crack with some old mortar in it...

I say,"scratch away - bring in the light!":eek:

I like the feel and functions of the stock rom, it's already FAST,:p maybe just change it's look, circle battery, clear clock and bars, dark or blue themes etc etc... keep sense an option....Add tether etc...give the non-sense peeps their options:cool:

TeamWin is awesome too!:)

This is going to be interesting!:D

cheers:p
[HTC EVO 3D] Stephanie95:
Root!

I guess TeamWin did it!:eek:

Hard to believe!:rolleyes:

Ok now for some overclocking and overcooking the roms!:p

We just need the "how 2's":cool:

Probably not going to be easy "one-step" stuff!:D
[HTC EVO 3D] chefdave12118:
Wowwwwwwwww
[HTC EVO 3D] dsEVOlve:
Indeed

I got a fever and the only prescription is more SMILEYS!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I personally need more cow bell

But to each their own

sent from thee beasto 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] JBO1018:
I think this is the biggest troll thread I've ever seen on XDA granted I haven't been here long.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[HTC EVO 3D] djmadclass:
I understand what stephine is saying but you don't need to encrypt the phone, I would think but the update file. Which I would think would have the key.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Carolinawilly1:
I keep trying to search "swap" for Dreamkernel 2.2.2 and can't find any good explanation of what it means OR how to do it. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
1) Go into a terminal emulator and type "su" and hit enter

2) "st", hit enter

3) "swap create", hit enter

4) Let it do its business, and you're golden. If that doesn't work, do the same thing but skipping step 2
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dak_181:
basically swap creates a space for more ram on your phones internal memory. you have to do something to partition it right before you can enable it but i dont remember how. theres a guide in the development section. its been known to cause problems though because theres only so many times you can write to that sector of your phone. i dont remember specifics but i was told by multiple people not to do it.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I enabled and re-enabled swap many times throughout my time with my TB, are you sure about it causing problems? I've never experienced any problems with swap, neither with the creation or use of it, so I'm curious as to where you heard this and if you know any other details?