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[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
i never troll nor i like to and i hate flaming and being flamed .. this was out of my character .. just hate being called someone that whines when im just making a factual statement that most of us was saying with the froyo b.s .. ..
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I'm glad all that is over, and that I was away while it was happening. Now, I'm off hunting. Shuushh, I'm hunting Rumors!

Added new rumor! At the very top of op this time

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[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Way to be mature guys *no sarcams intended*

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[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Eww Windows Phone 7?! I would like something I own to not be Microsoft. FFS

Android all the way. Hell, even iPhone before Windows phone 7.
[Epic 4G General] OrygunGal:
My upgrade is itching to be spent on the SGSII Within. From the sounds of things, it will be here before Epic Gingerbread. When it releases, I'll jump ship. Loved the Epic on DI18 but coveted the new features in EC05. I'm on my 4th Epic due to EC05 hiccups now. I don't hate my Epic but I'm ready to retire it. I have to say that Sprint has been great about sending replacements even though I did not purchase the extra warranty.
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Good to see cooler heads prevail in this thread. Now that's progress. When I bought my Epic, all I was promised was Froyo and Flash support. I have those both. I have been running Urban Fury as my daily for months and everything works great. Overclocked to 1400/200 and no force closes or data corruption...not once. Now bouncing between different setups, constantly changing themes,etc now that's another story.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
+1. Just passing it along. Gonna move that rumor to its correct place in the OP tomorrow after people have had a chance to see it.

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[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
+1 to this as well.

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
The trash bin?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Haha! Lol no, the very bottom, where the other samsung rumors are. I am curious if samsung would really do that though. But, it is from engadget, 'nuff said.

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yes, and they literally write about any rumor/whisper they hear
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Do they get paid for that? I could do that and be more accurate about it.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Engadget wrote about the "Epic 2"

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[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Actually, I thought that "this is my next" was the one who originally wrote the story, engadget just followed suit.

Edit: off topic, just found out that my aunt "upgraded" her phone to the Microsoft KIN TWOm. Talk about fail lol.

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[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
The whole Epic 4G forum will end up in the archived section... at some point.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
See this thread if you want to try to get your "old" early upgrade back.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1093232

Worked for me a month or so ago.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
i'll have to wait till sept to try that... i think they make you wait till you are at least a year in
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
It's actually pretty slim and light. It's no sgs2 but yes I can still get it when it comes out.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
So now that we know you can the question remains, will you?

Or will you wait a few more months for the Nexus 3?
[Epic 4G General] cresny:
US SGS2 to have wolfson DAC?

Anyone who follows supercurio's Voodoo Sound knows that the European SGS2 represents a downgrade in sound quality from SGS1 phones, which feature a Wolfson WM8994 DAC. I read rumors that the US SGS2 would be Tegra-based, and now it appears that the Tegra-based SGS2 phones will have a Wolfson DAC. I don't know which one it will be, but hopefully itr will be an Audio Hup at least as good as the WM8994.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Hey Z, nice logo you have in the OP xP

Mind giving me credit, lol? :)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
To be honest, I sold a nexus s yesterday and I nearly broke down and bought one. It was just that nice.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
They are sweet. My wife had one for a few days, but went back to the XPRT (her and her keyboards...). If rumors are true and the Nexus 3 is due out around Thanksgiving time, I may have to try and hold out until then. Unless LG is the mfg, then I probably won't bother.

Last I knew, the mfg of the Nexus 3 was still undecided but as soon as that's known, I'll make up the mind (finally) between the SGSII or the Nexus 3.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Is Sprint's sgs2 going to be the within or epic touch 4g?
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Based on what I've been reading; Epic Touch 4G.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
ClearWire announced that they will be rolling out an "LTE-Advanced Ready" 4G network which will be capable of 120mbps.

Source

Unrelated: My dad got a Nexus S because it was free today.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
So wait, this article seems to say that Clearwire is going to have LTE Advanced in the 2.5Ghz spectrum. Am I understanding that correctly? And if its the case could there be a software upgrade that would allow our 4G phones to use LTE advanced?
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Possible, but highly unlikely.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Highly highly unlikely. Sprint will probably label this as 5G. I guess that $7 billion is finally doing some good!

In other news, my mom now officially has my Epic. All Photon 4G now.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Is dual core everything it hyped up to be? Barely any lag on my epic most of tge time.
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
Wait. The current epic doesn't have a touchscreen?! :O

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[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
It's nice, but not utilized.

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Only nvidia utilizes their phones potential.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
To Acer: Of course, I cannot believe that slipped my mind! "Bad Dobby! Bad Dobby!"

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[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Will the epic touch have the lte and wimax chips?
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
FCC filings said no.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
There's 2 lines on each side! || Acer ||!

I slap you!! *slap*

No I keed, I keed. Thank you :P
[Epic 4G General] edscholl:
ya, dual core is muy bueno. my tegra 2 tablet renders web pages noticeably faster and flash is super awesome (vs pretty good).
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Yeah, Dual Core is nicer but not incredibly noticeable. Once apps/games start requiring more juice, you'll thank yourself for having dual core ready. It's more of a future proof purchase.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Itll have to be a majority of apps in order to be noticeable. But atleast itll be future proof....
[Epic 4G General] Aneirin:
Actually a big part of the dual core is that each core can maintain a lower clock frequency achieving better efficiency which translates into better battery life during average use. I suppose since battery life is a result of many different factors it is not as easy to see the direct correlation. However, in general, the dual core phones should have a bit better battery life.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
The only phone that takes advantage of that is the 3D
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Big caveat is that they will only do this if they have the money. Which they don't. Just pipe dreams right now. They currently need another billion dollars of funding just to survive. Same thing with Lightsquared.

Meanwhile, CLRW seems on its way to becoming a penny stock: http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:CLWR
[Epic 4G General] cachorropedorro:
Then why does the Exynos stomp the Evo 3d in real life battery tests?

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=640630&d=1309345882
[Epic 4G General] edscholl:
i think it's very noticeable even on web pages and loading email.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
What does that have to do with taking advantage of the dual core processor?
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I thought Evo 3D was asynchronous...meaning it only uses 1 core until the second is needed. The Photon is synchronous, which means both cores are used together, thus sustaining better battery life?
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
I thought they were both running the same tegra processor from nividia.
[Epic 4G General] GucciPilot:
Does anyone find it coincidental that the "within" has a build of EG27 exactly one year after the epic's DG27? Epic was released 8/31 maybe the within gets released the week of the 28th???

Here's hoping GB source gets released today, as it is my birthday.

Edit: gotta love those swypo's
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That'd be cool imo.

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[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
It should be announced soon, given the FCC approval. It'll probably be right outside August 31st to prevent people from returning Photons for the SGSII.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Happy birth day

But sorry to burst your bubble but this is sammy were taking about

They have to take atleast twice the amount of time it took to make gingerbread before they release it

If it weren't for the leaks I wouldn't believe they even started development

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[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Perfect my contact ends september first

And argh

I really want troll about everything samsung

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[Epic 4G General] cachorropedorro:
What Aneirin said. Battery life is a huge indicator of the efficiency of the dual core processor in the Exynos. Plus, remember that the Nenamark2 scores show the SPH-D710 (Samsung Epic Touch 4g) as the number 4 device in the world....barely trailing other SGS2 phones. When you use the absolute 'only' it can be easily dis-proven with one counterexample. Overstew is right. The fact that the Qualcomm MDP MSM8660 is asynchronous makes it not quite so efficient at touting some of the advantages of a dual core processor since both cores can run at different speeds and voltages. You want to keep both as low as possible and dividing the work as evenly as possible. http://developer.qualcomm.com/dev/development-devices/snapdragon-mdp
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
That doesn't make sense. Computers run like that. Evo 3d doesn't share a memory bus so it doesn't have to use one of its cores.
[Epic 4G General] cachorropedorro:
It does make sense. You don't want to have a situation where it doesn't have to use one of its cores. You want to use both at a lower frequency rate. The rate at which power consumption is calculated is similar to an exponential curve. Let me give you an example:

If you have a processor 'A' with one core running at 800Mhz and the other core not being used yet because it doesn't 'need' it, then you are using significantly more power than another processor 'B' utilizing both cores at 400Mhz.

http://i.cmpnet.com/insidedsp/200406/power_fig2.gif
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Ah I needed that screenshot. lol
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Conquer coming 8/21, who was right *****es? :)
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
No offense but who cares about the conquer

Better specs on the high end phones we have now and same price

But nice accuracy

Still no news on the within?

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[Epic 4G General] The Root:
He has given a ****ton of word on the "Within" lately. Are you living under a rock?
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I meant release date and not a month

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
The release date is slated to be 9/9. But I have no evidence. Only the word of my source.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Makes sense, 5 weeks (1 week outside Photon's return policy, for those thinking about returning the Photon for the SGSII.) I'd 100% agree with the 9th of September.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Good enough I trust you

what's your opinion on these rumors of the nexus prime

There are rumors of out using quad core and 1.5ghz processors

i think they are bs and that the nexus prime will have the same specs as the gs2

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[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
If Samsung is indeed making the Nexus Prime, it's specs wont be much different than the SGSII variants coming to the carriers. Although I did hear it was an all touchscreen phone.
[Epic 4G General] blahblah2000:
It's rumored to have a 720p screen, which is the biggest thing for me. Also no buttons on the front, all done thru ui
[Epic 4G General] viper786:
meaning no capacitive buttons on the bottom? so will those buttons still be there but on the touch screen now?
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
If its going to be omap like all these sites are saying it wont be sanding or htc. It'll be either lg or Motorola.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
i hope its not motorola... might try an LG phone
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
They make great phones. I would get it
[Epic 4G General] ksmullins88:
hey Korey,

wanna share the GB rom we released with briefmobile??

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1205024
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
@korey - so you're 100% certain Samsung isn't going to make the next Nexus? Man...that sucks. I'm leery about getting an LG phone, never had good success with any products (never tried one of their phones) of theirs in the past.

Motorola I could deal with, but their qHD screen is crap compared to Sammy's if you ask me. Maybe crap is too strong a word, but not as nice I should say. I figure if I'm trying to extract information out of a guy, I shouldn't rip on the mfg of the phone he's currently using ;)
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I have never seen a good LG phone.

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[Epic 4G General] poit:
WTF does any of this have to do with the EPIC?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thread is for discussion, OP is for information.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Sorry, I thought a rumor thread in the Epic forum would be for Epic information. What was I thinking!
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
so what would you have us discuss... how we all want GB source? can't pull new epic info out of our asses. but feel free to try if you like
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
What were you thinkin? Nothing. Guess you don't know how things go around here. The info in the OP affects all of us in the future. Info for upgrades, stuff like that. Obviously, mods don't mind stickying it.

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[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Wow.

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Im not 100% certain, and samsung doesn't make a qhd display
[Epic 4G General] roghaj:
Now is the time on coffee talk where we talk about major wold events

Here's your topic : Magic button; it is neither magic nor a button.

Discuss.

(who knows what that's from?)
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I know, I think you read my post too quick. Or maybe I worded it wrong. I was saying I could deal with Motorola making the next Nexus but I think the qHD screen (that's what Moto uses, right?) isn't nearly as good as the SAMOLED Samsung makes.

But, if you're saying you're not 100% certain on the next mfg of the Nexus, then I'm still holding out hope for Samsung :)
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Samsung makes best hardware (minus radio) , google makes best software. :p
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Samsung Within has a new RDF page:

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/EG30.rdf

Surprised no one saw this actually. (either that, or it was never posted in the OP)
[Epic 4G General] OrygunGal:
Well, EH05 is listed in OP and H comes after G so that would be old news. :)
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
He was saying the Within, not the Epic. It's a mixed rumor page in the Epic forum. It's stickied, so it must be perfect, from what I hear.
[Epic 4G General] viper786:
EH05 is for the Epic. He is talking about the Within. Notice the D710 in the link
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
Really? Is it that old? SNL, Coffee Talk, Mike Meyers.
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
I can't get over how Motorola might be making an unlockable phone... That's like Apple making something and releasing source code. Or allowing customization.

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[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Funny, I actually read something that said Apple may release their source since they are technically using a Linux filesystem (that's why android can run on the iPhone right?) Maybe they were both unix based, I can't remember.

Don't take my word for it though.
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
I'm not sure about iOS, but OS X is unix based. But I don't think they release source for that. And I think Linux is also unix based. I'm probably talking out my ass though.

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[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Added WiThin rdf to OP. Thanks Acer.

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Someone get eh05, I'm hearing it is the final and they finally hammered out the issues.

August 22 is looking good ;)
[Epic 4G General] OrygunGal:
Good heavens, I missed the word "Within" and didn't analyze the link. I'm guessing floggings will begin mometarily....
[Epic 4G General] darkpoe:
oh oh.. fresh news from samfirmware

https://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/100158602597236736

New d700 rom next weekend (posted 15 minutes ago)

EPIC!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Sweet sounds good thank you
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I tweeted this to them.
[Epic 4G General] duce102:
i was just about to post that lol

ill just stick this in here since im wasting a post anyway lol :rolleyes:

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[Epic 4G General] darkpoe:
blah!

Sorry blame my insomnia
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Eek! Final leak coming in? Could it be EH05? :D
[Epic 4G General] TurboFool:
I'm just happy to see the potential new name for the Galaxy SII so we can get away from this ridiculous "WiThin" capitalization people seem stuck on around here.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
I think WiThin makes a ton more sense the Within. Wimax + Thin = WiThin. Within sounds like a phone designed to be smuggled into prison.

:D
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
lol, "within" prison walls.
[Epic 4G General] SpicyBurrito:
Didn't they say that it looked like the final when we got EG22? Either way, I'm glad we're almost home if this is true.
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
I really hope Samsung doesn't change the framework in EH05. Especially if it's not the official release.

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[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
They better not lol. That would really screw me over.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Ummm idk if anyone saw that the T-Mobile Hercules is getting the QualComm dual-core processor...yeah about the Within

I'm just going to put this :(
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Tegra 2? SERIOUSLY?
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Fail, wtf
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
More like snapdragon not Tegra 2. But the evolution 3d processor is amazing and better then tegra. Hopefully they use a different gpu. No one has confirmed what gpu it is using.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
That's not bad, not bad at all. Not sure what the difference between exynos and snapdragon is, though.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Neither do I but sounds like everybody like exynos better

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
The gpu is so much better in the samsung processors
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
I highly doubt that the WiThin (SPH-D710) is using Qualcomm processor because it uses the ARM Mali GPU and if it was Qualcomm, it would be Adreno.

Leaderboard:

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2

Just Sprint GSII

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2&device_id=593

All the top ones are GSIIs.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Idk, which processor uses a mali gpu? Omap?
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
New update for the OP..

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH06.rdf
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
O my word, the mali gpu is bad ass. Just google it. It hasn't been used in a phone yet so it could be paired with a qualcomm processor
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Exynos uses it. My bad for the confusion. That was what I meant by all the other galaxy s ii phones are at the top and using the same GPU.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
How positive are you on that? I can't find anything that links those together.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Added this to OP.

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[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Again???

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[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Another? Jeez, I hope this is the last one. Samfirmware said they were releasing another leak this coming weekend, and I pray that it will be the final build...
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
100% positive

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2

The Galaxy S II says Mali.

Also, on wikipedia it says the Exynos variant uses Mali and Tegra uses GeForce.

Also, OMAP4 uses SGX540, which is also the Epic's GPU, but OMAP is clocked higher.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Hes is right about the mali gpu. Maybe a variant from att uses qualcomm. They do have two different models of gs2.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Exynos all the way! Nothing else will do for me in the SII

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[Epic 4G General] murso74:
well the conquer 4g is out for sprint.... i'm shocked that no one has asked if the source code for that can be used at all for the epic. not that i'm asking.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Notice anything else on that page? ;)
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Yay!

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[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
That was what

I was saying. But I didn't clarify there because I did in the other post that he quoted
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I didn't read far enough back. Sorry about that.

At least we now have evidence that Sprint's SGSII will have Exynos.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Me = getting excited. Announce the damn phone, Sprint!
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Hmm I think I might return my photon and get it as my business phone like I planned. And then get the sgs2 as my personal phone.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Dooooo eeeet!

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[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
lol, can't make up your mind. You're just like me! I was debating on getting the Photon, but instead I'm holding out for SGSII. I'll be 100% satisfied with it, pretty sure.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
The photon is amazing. I will have this phone no matter what. Its whether I can wait til the sgs2 comes out or if I want to go ahead and get the evo 3d. The photon is having a silent call issue though and it is killing me :(
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Missing your Epic a bit? :p

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yeah problem is my mom has it now. So I can't go back. I actually have to stick with the Photon or go back to the HTC Vogue
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
lol, a Photon is MUCH better than the HTC Vogue :p

I'd say just be patient for Sprint's GS2. It's only a month away.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Maybe. We'll see. Like I said. Ill have photon one way or the other. Its whether or not ill have the evo 3d instead of the sgs2. If I had an extra $200 I would get both.

Maybe a donation fund should be started ;)
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Nah, i took my evo 3d back. Wasn't too impressed with it. Just hold out for the sgs2.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Watch a review from phonedog.com and from just seeing that id say your easily going to want a sgs2. Its just sleeker device overall.

They have a photon vs evo 3d.
[Epic 4G General] kalel_293:
i just hope they dont come with a 4.5' screen...4-4.3' is good: D
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Yea ive seeb an infuse and its alittle to big for even me.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
No and no. We haven't unlocked the bootloader yet