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[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
You can somewhat compensate for the lack of hardware acceleration with overclocking. This is what many folks do.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dishe:
Someone told me this once before (maybe it was you), but I disagree with this being a solution. Overclocking helps somewhat, but more code being sent to more CPU cycles is not always a direct tradeoff in performance. For example, when executing code the JVM has to deal with garbage collectors and other thread management issues that the GPU doesn't need to deal with. I read from notion ink's blog about new HC for the Adam that some of the java GC's can take anywhere between 7-500ms to do its work. The more code being sent to the GPU to offset CPU load, the smoother and less jittery the entire user experience will be.

Overclocking can help make the jittering go away faster, but also cause more of these hickups in a span of time, if I understand correctly.

Overclocking, while very cool, can also deplete your battery faster. I've been clocking at 1.2 and sometimes 1.4Ghz on CM7. I stopped using 1.4 because I noticed the battery didn't last as long, and sometimes the device seemed to heat up more than I remember normally. I'll still overclock, but at the end of the day I don't feel like my device is as smooth as it could be. And that irks me.

Why not just use an overclockable Froyo rom?

Meanwhile, Brilliant Corners sounds interesting but then I have to deal with that whole bootloader 1.2 mess. Not sure I want to go there yet.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEvans:
Brilliant Corners is simply a 1.2 port of Vegan 5.1.1.

When the 1.2 bootloader arrived, Roebeet figured it would be the future bootloader for our tablets. He therefore made 1.2 equals of the 1.1 Roms he had a hand in developing. BC is Vegan 5.1.1, Mountain Laurel is his original TNT Lite, and Century Eyes is his Gadam rom.

So, if you want Brilliant corners, but don't want to switch bootloaders, then simply get Vegan 5.1.1. It's basically the same thing.

Personally, I was on Brilliant Corners until recently. I bought the tablet with TNT Lite pre-installed, then flashed Vegan 5.1.1. I decided to go to 1.2 and went to Brilliant Corners. I had a couple issues recently (not with the Rom, but the person that was using the Rom) and had to repartition. Figuring I'd lose everythign anyway, I decided ot give another rom a try. I went ot Beasty for 1.2 (it's an Adam Rom) Then, some apps wouldn't install for me, becuase my "device was not compatible." Figuring it was more of a headache, I decided to try Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for 1.2 and it's working like a dream so far. It's overclocked, but has built in Battery management, regulating the voltages as battery life get's lower. It's FAST, it's stable, and I think my battery has lasted longer than it did previously.

The good thing it, there are versions for 1.1 (v5) and 1.2 (v6) so anyone can use it...give it a test drive, you may never look back.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
I completely agree with everything you said. That said, right now the only way to partially compensate for the lack of hw acceleration is overclocking.

So, either you have jerky video playback but have a stable device all the time or you can get rid of the jerkiness (for the most part) and have a stable device most of the time.

Regardless, I'm still recommending froyo just because it is the only one with full hw acceleration support.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forgiventhief:
Netflix Works... kind of

Roebeet has a netflix hack that will work with both Brilliant Corners and VEGAn 5.1 The problem is, you lose the youtube app... which isn't a huge deal as you can still go to the website and play from there, with full hardware acceleration. So, it's a question of what you want to do. When i made the jump from 1.1 to 1.2 I think my battery life went down a little, but I haven't noted too much difference between VEGAn Tab 5.1 and Brilliant Corners.

If you want to make the 1.2 bootloader jump, try this. It is super straightforward.

http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/

If you want the Netflix Hack for 1.2 , see here. Roebeet made one for Brilliant Corners:

http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/171...lternative-12-based-firmware-g-tabletzpad-t2/

If you want to just stay on 1.1 and do VEGAntab5.1, the link for the neflix hack can be found in the second post here.

http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/146...1-wsupplement-updated-021211-g-tabletzpad-t2/
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dishe:
From what I understand, this doesn't actually make netflix work properly.

Lets get something straight: The netflix APK can be forced to work on almost any Android device, however it won't display properly. Most people consider this "broken". Originally, most of the "non-supported devices" would render the display all weird. A green line would run over the top 5% of the screen, and the colors would be out of alignment (the red hues would actually appear shifted downward as a ghost image. Made everything look like I should be wearing blue/red 3D glasses).

CM7.0.3 has some kind of display support, however, that renders the video perfectly. This is not exclusive to the G-tablet, but rather most devices I had tried netflix on, including an LG Optimus.

It looks exactly like it does on my netbook when running CM7, and doesn't "break" any other support to do so.

For some strange reason, many of the G-tablet roms wouldn't even launch the app. This, to me, is an entirely NEW problem, which roebeet has thankfully found a workaround for (at the cost of the youtube app). The problem is, that just brings us as far as the "broken" netflix that most non-supported devices can already handle stock.

The hack to use Vegan GE with netflix actually brings the CM7.03 libraries in that magically make Netflix work the way it should, and so far it appears to be the only way to actually work properly.

But then we're stuck with Gingerbread again and the jittery performance issues that come from a lack of driver support. I'm so frustrated with all this right now.

I'm debating just getting a PlayOn subscription and using that to watch netflix until they update their app!
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
I don't usually imagine things, but I hope I am imagining this. Could everyone take a very close look at their screen and see if it seems that the display is slightly tilted to the right? Almost like it is slighty rotated... like by one or two pixels. It would be most noticeable (if you are afflicted) by looking very closely at the upper right corner of the status bar.

Are there any video screen testers to download that would give me a better perspective?
[HTC EVO 3D] awesomeindeed:
My actual LCD is tilted by 1-2 pixels to the right under the glass. Was the first thing I noticed when I turrned it on and looked at it deadon. Not enough to make me return it, but it's BARELY noticeable. Had the same issue with a refurbed OG Evo from Sprint when mine broke.

Then again, I have perfect vision and I pay attention to the smallest and dumbest details.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
is your 3d/2d switch loose front to back?

j/w b/c mine is and it bugs the crap outa me. also noticed the screen seemed to be recessed a tad more in the top right. but thats me nit picking really.
[HTC EVO 3D] subvelocity:
I thought I was going insane when I noticed this, its barely noticeable but I knew something felt off, especially if I looked right at the top by the status bar like the OP said. .
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
Yes, this is exactly how mine is. But I am not usually picky about this kind of stuff and it is bugging the crap out of me. I am debating on returning.
[HTC EVO 3D] fatboypup:
mines like that I thought the 3D was making me cross eyed :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] mrsvictoriarich:
Are all like this?
[HTC EVO 3D] mrsvictoriarich:
I get mine Monday. Fn wirefly.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
could you guys post a pic showing what your talking about exactly?
[HTC EVO 3D] lopezpm:
Can't be. Mine is fine and I'm very picky about build quality.
[HTC EVO 3D] Cicatrize:
Mine is like this too.
[HTC EVO 3D] gqstatus0685:
Thankfully I didn't get one. I'm going to wait for newer hardware builds or a better offering from Sprint. I would take it back if its noticeable.
[HTC EVO 3D] kcodya:
Maybe I don't know what to look for, but my screen looks perfectly fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrsvictoriarich:
Hmm.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Same here. Need a pic or I'm useless.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrsvictoriarich:
The 2nd layer of glass for 3d is off? I hope it wouldn't effect 3d in any way.
[HTC EVO 3D] ktrotter11:
Hardware 002 here and I don't see any issues
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
I have hw 0003
[HTC EVO 3D] nfaust01:
hw 002 and everything is fine.
[HTC EVO 3D] xenx:
I have hw 002. After I read the OP, mine looked off. However, I think it's just an illusion. From my high "technical" exam, all four corners appear fine in of themselves. It's only when I look at the clock in relation to the rest of the bar does it start looking off.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Ahhh now I see it. But returning over that is stupid.
[HTC EVO 3D] x0lliex:
Mine is tilted too, HW002. It is really annoying. If this is common with all 3Ds then there is nothing I can do, but if not all phones are like this I may return it.
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
Everything else seems to be working... other than some other SW bugs... i might just live with this.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattinky11:
I don't know about tilted but I can see a 2 pixel shift to the right on mine as well. Ugh. I could have done without this thread (no offense op) because I'm a perfectionist and that's all I can see now!
[HTC EVO 3D] DeMiNe0:
My Hardware is Version 0002, and my screen looks fine...

BTW, does anyone know the differences between all the hardware builds yet? It would be interesting to see what components each of these phones are built with.
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
glad I'm not the only one anal enough to notice/be bothered by this.

I probably won't exchange it because if this but it does bother me.. a little :(
[HTC EVO 3D] sand1303:
I have no clue what yall are looking at
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yeah pics would be helpfull again. b/c im totally lost on how your describing it being tilted
[HTC EVO 3D] xPhantom:
I have this too on mine. HW 0002. It'd be REALLY difficult to show in pictures since it's pretty hard to notice in person. It just seems as though the actual LCD might have been rotated just barely (and I mean... barely) to the right. It's really only noticeable when looking at the top status bar. The phone works perfectly fine and everything, so I don't think it would justify returning it, especially if the replacement unit might have it too. It's only because I'm a perfectionist that I notice it. It's so minimal that I'm sure I'll stop noticing it over time.
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
HW 0002

I think I see what people are talking about with the screen looking like it's rotated slightly clockwise, but I think it might be more of an optical illusion than anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
Ya, I think this is more of an optical issue also rather than a real issue. It's hard to really see straight edges without a real straight edge or razor to compare when applying to its surface. I don't see anything, THANK GOD. I don't want to return my phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] BrianBaker:
son of a B!!!!...Why does this thread exist? I freaking see what your talking about now..God Damn now it sticks out like a sore thumb.
[HTC EVO 3D] tatnai:
hahaha. classic. I haven't even bought my E3D yet and I'm fretting about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
well Im on my 3rd damn EVO 3D..dead pixels,dust under the screen..now my 3rd phone has a little dead pixel at the bottom right corner I noticed it when i was watching a moving..I did notice that on all 3 phones that the screen was tilted to the right ...yes its very annoying cuz I like my phones to be perfect.I really notice the crooked /tiled screen when the screen is all white or when im looken at email....since im on my 3rd 3d I cant decide to either live with it or return it an get a different phone...grrrrrrrrrrrr I really am starten to hate HTC PHONEs they always seem to have these issues....
[HTC EVO 3D] justj:
yet no one can produce a picture to show what you guys are talking about?
[HTC EVO 3D] ffolkes:
For most people, this is an optical illusion that can be easily confirmed by referencing another part of the screen. I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to do this, but I use LauncherPro with the dock (Prefs->Appearance->Dock Background) set to "Glass". This gives me a line a few pixels above the bottom of the screen, where I can easily see it's perfectly parallel to the bottom. And I don't doubt the linearity of the LCD panel as a whole, so if the bottom is square, the top is square.
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
I'm on my fourth and it's perfect. The 3 I had prior had dead pixels, missing paint or whatever by the menu button and the 3rd had yellowish tint to the screen colors and leakage from the bottom. They were all from 1 RadioShack. This 4th one is bought @ BestBuy. I would try a different store if I were you.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jye75:
Makes you wonder, did all the Shack geeks plunder their stock for the perfect ones for themselves, and leave only the minor defective ones for the customers?
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
My 1st Evo was nice and straight, but had a dead pixel. The one I currently have is slightly tilted and it's fine, except when I view 3D images. Not sure if the screens/barrier is out of alignment, but it's really had to keep focus on 3D images. The 1st one with the dead pixel was easy to focus on....
[HTC EVO 3D] xjman:
Mine is rotated as well. It doesn't bother me in general but it does make the 3d images a little weird it seems.
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
Yea...I have no idea what you guys are looking at :confused:

I just compared to my EvO4G and everything looks the same to me as far as where icons and time are placed in the status bar. hMMMm kuku lol
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
To those of you who DON'T see this in your phones, either you're lucky to have received a defect-free unit OR you just don't suffer from the level of OCD it requires to see this defect. We're talking variances of a few pixels.

On that note this is the best display to ever grace my eyeballs. For the first time I actually can't look close and see individual pixels. Very impressed with 2d.

My gf's 3d got here monday. I shamefully admit I opened it fully intent on giving her mine. Hers is worse than mine! lol

Mine is rotated cc maybe 1-2 pixels, hers is rotated clockwise maybe 3-4.

I'll try to get a super-macro shot with my canon. This is going to be challenging ..
[HTC EVO 3D] xPhantom:
The easiest way for me to tell is by looking at the corners with the screen on. Looking at the top right edge, the gap between the edge of the LCD and the black frame around the LCD is very small. Then looking at the bottom right edge, the gap between the edge of the LCD and the black frame around the LCD is noticeably larger. This proves that the screen is rotated slightly clockwise.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jye75:
Mine's fine, checked it against the edge of the glass.
[HTC EVO 3D] zes2a:
Is anyone else noticing this? I noticed it right after I opened and activated my 3vo, and then saw this thread pop up and was thankful I wasn't the only one seeing it.

For those that went and got a replacement, is the replacement better? Did you look at in store units to see if they exhibited the same problem?

Between this and the one tiny dead pixel that is barely noticeable, I might try to get a replacement. It's just bothersome to hold the phone straight and see a straight line going at an angle down to the right.
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
Hey guys, you do know that if you think you notice something wrong with your screens, and you look at it long enough, even tho there's nothing wrong, your mind will convince you there is. Mine looked off to, at first, but then I broke out a digital measuring caliber, and it measures exact. So try convincing yourself nothing is wrong, and you won't notice it anymore.

HTC dropped the ball on us 3D users, TeamWin picks it up, and throws HTC out at home base!! Yaaaahhhhh.
[HTC EVO 3D] xPhantom:
I got a replacement due to the wake lock issue, but my replacement also has a slightly rotated screen. Looking at the two demo units in the store, one of them had it and the other didn't. I almost wanted to just ask for the demo one that was perfect, hahaha.
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
Damn you! My phone was perfect... until I read this thread. :rolleyes:

Mine has it too. Sadly, I had no problem photographing it with a pro camera. The trick is to have a little light hitting it so you can see the blackout. I've marked the distance between the edge of the LCD and the blackout in the attached photo using green lines.

Fortunately, AFAIK the two layers for 3D are mated on the surface of the LCD so if the LCD is rotated, both layers should be rotated. That means 3D viewing won't be affected and the only thing to bother us is... well... knowing it's a little crooked.

HINT: Click the thumbnail below to bring up the image and then click the image again to view it. Then click a third time to zoom to 1:1. Sorry about the compression. Had to compress a lot to post it here.

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
I just inspected the setup using a high power photographic loupe where I can see individual pixels on both 3D layers. By changing the angle of the loupe slightly, I was able to toggle back and forth between the two 3D frames and I can say with confidence that the two layers are aligned perfectly. So well in fact that I think the two layers are actually just a single layer on the same LCD. What I mean by that is that the LCD doesn't appear to have two separate layers: I think one layer is actually used with a form of interlacing to get the effect.

Anyway, it looks like the 3D layers are aligned on the LCD and then the entire LCD is rotated very slightly in the frame. That means it has no effect whatsoever WRT the 3D viewing.

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] DataDork:
easiest way to tell if your lcd is shifted is to to look slide your notification bar down.. next,look at edge of the screen directly under the time.. if the menu curves then you dont have the problem.. but if the menu seems to CUT off then you do have the problem.

i know this bc i am on my 3rd evo lol. 4th evo in the mail now ( all returned for various reasons)
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
ok i see the shift slightly. now as far as the right side below the clock being squared off...i think it is supposed to be that way. the lcd would have to be moved severely under the edge of the phone to cut that much off. If you tilt the phone to look and see if you can spot the curve under the edge, you cannot. you can see where the lcd picture ends. Maybe the software is shifted? (is that even possible lol) but it doesnt bother me to much. and if 3d is not affected then im not going to worry about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] DataDork:
i have seen the difference between the phones i have had,, the image will curve or be cut. Yes, its not a big deal. but it was worth mentioning.
[HTC EVO 3D] ian928:
I already returned one 3vo due to this problem and unfortunately my replacement has it too. That was before I even noticed this thread. This problem seems to be very widespread. Does anyone know how hard it will be to open up and align the panels? My phone is working great but it just bugs me when I see it.
[HTC EVO 3D] xPhantom:
Yeah I'm on my third EVO 3D now. The first two were returned for different issues, but both of them had the crooked screen. However, my current one has it too, but to a much lesser extent than the other two. It's so much less that it's barely noticeable, although I can tell it is there when I look at the edges. It doesn't bother me though, since this current one I have now has none of the issues that the first two had. So far, I've only seen one EVO 3D in person with a perfectly centered and straight screen, and that was one of the two demo models at the Sprint store.
[HTC EVO 3D] BamAlmighty:
Great! All was fine until I read this thread now I notice the screen tilt.

Now I am debating taking mine back, but after hearing the exchanges are just as bad I don't know if it is even worth it at this point.
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
There is another option: rotate the phone a half a degree CCW in your hand. ;) Seriously, my phone seems to have the rotation at about the average level reported here and I measured the rotation in the frame: .45 degrees CW. The only way I'd return mine is if it was rotated enough that one of the corners of the screen was cut off (because that corner is underneath the blackout). Mine comes close to that, but not quite. It's not very noticeable to me but everyone is different. I say if it bothers you: exchange it. You could always ask them to let you look at the new one (turned on) before they activate it.

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I would say its easiest to just pull the notification bar down and look at the bottom right corner. I noticed the gap is much bigger there than the left corner. Though mine seems to be evenly gapped all the way up so its not crocked just off center by the smalest amount.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Not only did this stupid thread help me realize my misaligned lcd, but now I've discovered a dead pixel! THANKS A LOT
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
Mine was about 1/16" off to the right. I looked at my wifes 3D and bee's was not as bad as mine was. I took it back and got one that's perfect in line. They didn't just give me a choice of the one I got, I just got lucky that I got one that was perfect.
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
C'mon man. That's the "glass half empty" outlook. Hey, at least you have one less pixel rotated .45 degrees to the right than I do! :D

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] malibu_23:
better pix of the issue. :( with visual aids.
[HTC EVO 3D] mr.orange303:
Thnx for the aid. Mine is not like that.
[HTC EVO 3D] Addictedtothegreenguy:
**** I c it on mine but its only noticeable if I'm lookin for it.

Bang.... That's the sound of my shooter.
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
Yeah, that's about like mine (pictures posted a few pages back). My wife's is actually worse and more noticeable. She hadn't noticed until I pointed it out and when she saw it, her comment was "so what". When I told her about this thread, she called us all anal. :rolleyes:

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] catpunt:
mine was pretty bad (worse that anyone else i saw) and just exchanged mine for a brand new one at the store and the new one is either perfect or near perfect. phew, had to use my 30 day return for it but it was worth it!
[HTC EVO 3D] aznmode:
I had this on mine too and it drove me nuts (yes I'm anal about spending $270 and it being not perfect lol). Plus I had some voice quality issue. Returned it and the new one is dead centered. I posted this on android central but never got any reply. Here is a pic of my 1st phone. Now my new one has a dead pixel but only if the brightness is set to high but otherwise not as visible and doesnt bother as much as the tilted screen. I'm selectively anal I guess. That doesnt sound right does it? lol
[HTC EVO 3D] catpunt:
that's pretty bad, mine was like that on the bottom right
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
what HW version is your new one?
[HTC EVO 3D] os10:
same issue here, noticed it right away and it was bugging me.

then i forgot about it until i saw this thread... now i can't unsee it.