yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
Having seen the hash that has been made of the latest 2.3.3 update why on earth would you want the official over a tweaked custom ROM?
[Desire HD General] irteza_h:
I agree .. I would go so far as to say that our developers at xda will probably do a better job than htc on sense 3.0 when the sdk comes out
[Desire HD General] dingbatt:
They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.

My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).

I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
HTC will *NOT* sacrifice user experience for new features (if any). Don't forget that Sense 3.0 came with the dual core Sensation. Yes, it can be made to work good-ish but you'll never see HTC overclocking their phones. Unlocking the bootloader does no damage to HTC (especially if it voids the warranty) so they did it. This has nothing to do with Sense 3.0 - we are more likely in the position of the Desire users: GB can run on their phones but it doesn't meet the performance standards of HTC. So no official GB for them... and no Sense 3.0 for us...
[Desire HD General] naira1:
Half baked you said.There are more than 8 stable, more faster and smoother roms for DHD here including 2 powerful roms with full sense 3.0 support. Check the threads, hardly a discussion about a bug anymore just themes, rosie and what not.

Believe me they are far more superior to what Htc had to offer.

Sent from my kickass, blazing fast Virtuous Unity V1.26
[Desire HD General] toby_lerone:
i like the sense roms here but i had a problem with virtuous unity rom :( really liked it aswell.
[Desire HD General] rayarny:
Guys both virtuous unity and rcmix are fantastic 3.0 ports!! Try them..out devs are more talented than HTCs I have to say who thought it wasnt possible officially! :D
[Desire HD General] xzellenz:
no chance

nochance of that happening as the first poster said, im currently using RcMix3D 1.9 which the dark v3 patch which is sense 3.0 and its wikked i love it, ive tried all the roms on here and this is the best
[Desire HD General] lolypop:
recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2

any help from XDA .:mad:
[Desire HD General] Rafaeolo:
I think its HTC marketing strategy. They may think that now one would buy the Sensation or Evo 3d if some of the older Phones had 3.0.

But if you watch the videos how poorly Sense 3.0 runs on the Sensation maybe their honest with the performance and they can´t make a smooth runnig Sense 3.0 update for the DHD.

Don´t know wich is worse but you´ll have to flash a custom rom if you want Sense 3.0.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
New build can now be downgraded mate :) It's found in the dev section :D
[Desire HD General] mancuk29:
Seriously you don't want 3.0 I bought the sensation and have had 3 of them , they suffer from heat problems and sense 3 is so laggy. IM that disappointed that the phone its so slow I've bought a dhd and to be honest its quicker, cooler and far superior ...
[Desire HD General] xzellenz:
how to downgrade

thats funny ive been using 3.0 on my dhd for ages now and had no lags, here is the downgrade page http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905003
[Desire HD General] toonartist:
I've tried the sense 3 Roms and while there are aspects of them that I like, i prefer CM7 for it's speed and flexibility, not missing sense at the moment :)

Duncan
[Desire HD General] johansenmo:
I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.
[Desire HD General] Never_OutGunned:
True. Everyone has his own feel over how thinks should work. I had the chance to buy a brand new Sensation, so I decided to compare it with my DHD running LeeDroid with Sense 3.0 port. Can You guess which one is laggier and slower? Surprise, surprise it's the Sensation. Even though the CPU is 0,2 GHz faster and a dual core, it seems as if the two cores are not syncronised and do not use the RAM in the best possible way. Sure for multithreaded apps the Sensation is faster, but how many of those are out there? And the heat. They say DHD has a overheating problem... Try using a Sensation or a SGS II for more than 30 minutes. They'll burn your hand :D I bet the next HTC will be 1,5 GHz and will be called the Untouchable (LMAO)
[Desire HD General] JSLEnterprises:
Thats funny, im running my own edited 1.35.661 pyramid (sensation 4G for bell mobility) rosie and sense widgets with the framework, and im running at stock 1.0Ghz, with no special kernel, and its running smooth as hell. Just some minor alignment issues since its still a work in progress, and it'll be perfect.

Original desire users ARE getting a stripped down version of gingerbread. Why stripped down you ask, because they only have 576MB of Ram, and 512MB Internal Rom memory (eMMC), unlike our 768 MB Ram, and 1.5GB Rom Memory (eMMC).

Dont say something wont happen when you dont know the future.
[Desire HD General] JSLEnterprises:
Early version of software was pretty damn buggy. The updated ota/ruu fixes the issues. The 1.35.661.1 on the Sensation 4G (Canadian 850/1900 version of the phone) runs flawlessly, and my DHD gets hotter, even with every aspect of it modified to hell. The only thing that I dont like about the Sensation, is the plastic back cover, and the slightly smaller screen (yeah, the res is higher, but the physical screen is smaller... not good for my large man fingers)
[Desire HD General] sromer:
The Sensation screen is the same size as the DHD. They are both 4.3 inches.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
I thought HTC said that older single core devices won't get 3.0, but they will get elements from it (I.e - lock screen)

But when?

I've played around withthr chacha, and salsa, they have sense 2.1, but 3.0 lockscreen. So we will get some of that?
[Desire HD General] CuBz90:
Owned lmao

Personally I love Sense 3.0 and I do understand why HTC won't put it on our phones, but I don't see why everyone OS making such a big deal out of it...just flash a Sense 3.0 ROM, it would more than likely turn out to be more advanced than stock anyway
[Desire HD General] hero000:
Just flash sense 3.0 ROM. It's very obvious that they want you to buy their new product. It's all about money....BUT they forgotten the xda-developers do exist too.
[Desire HD General] riusz:
funny.

Have you tried to run benchmarks on them? (e.g. Quadrant Standard) Just curious...
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
So... Are we sense 2.1 owners going to get an update? Not necessarily sense 3.0, but elements that were promised with it?
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
As per mike from Android Revolution team, he says he has confirmed information that Sense 3.5 will be officially coming to DHD. Link to his post here- http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17227822&postcount=47512

Hope its true and it would be great then!
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
What is the source of Mikes info in not saying his wrong I'm just thinking if we didn't get 3.0 why would we get 3.5 ;)
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
I am not aware of his source but its quite possible since HTC said there were hardware limitations to Sense 3.0 for our devices but Sense 3.5 is essentially a stripped down version and is capable of running on "less" powerful devices. Although I hardly believe DHD is less powerful yet I hope even if they are not giving us Sense 3.0 then atleast Sense 3.5 officially would be great.
[Desire HD General] hopscotchjunkie:
Yeah, they initially said something along the lines of that Sense 3.0 would be limited to their "high-end" dual-core devices. So I can't see them releasing 3.0, but they're releasing 3.5 on a single-core 800MHz device (the Bliss) so there's no technical reason for them not to (business reasons, however...).

I'm fairly confident they will (the DHD is still less than a year old, if they're releasing a software update that it's more than capable of running it wouldn't be worth the bad publicity not to release it), and having spent some time playing with the ported Bliss ROM I honestly can't wait.
[Desire HD General] :
The reasons Sense 3.0 never came to anything but the higher end dual core devices were business and optimisation. Sense 3.0 is difficult to run because of the lack of optimisation on any of their devices; beyond this, it isn't really that much more difficult to run than Sense 2.1.

Sense 3.5 is hopefully going to be much more optimised, but the last thing it is is a cut-down version of 3.0. All the visual effects that were there before are going to be in place. It's just a case of getting them to run properly.
[Desire HD General] Stinger696:
i rekon silly htc
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
Looks like Sense 3.0 is officially coming to Desire HD!! yay!!
[Desire HD General] miHah:
Youtube video of an official sense 3.0 on dhd ^^
[Desire HD General] ViDtje:
You could clearly see that it is Android revolution.

Edit: I just saw ARHD has already a ROM with that RUU.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Desire s running lbc ROM. Sense 2.1 + 2.3.3. Basically stock optimised ROM. Awaiting custom ROM based on official 3.0/3.5 sense + 2.3.5.

Any news on HTC releasing on desire s?
[Desire HD General] nonbenda:
YEAH! but it seems like mike has brought it to us much more earlier (:
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
The ROM was provided by HTC ;)
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
Yes i agree, great work by mike and a big thanks! But for some of us who have not rooted and want to preserve our warranties relying on HTC is still the only way and if they had not provided the RUU then we wouldn't have had this great ROM.
[Desire HD General] hero000:
Stop winging sense 3.5 is out there.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
But Sense 3.5 is hardly an update over Sense 3.0. I rather think its a step backward. Sense 3.0 is much more elegant and powerful as seen on Sensation, and well Sense is slowly losing its elegance as its future versions are released.
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
Sense 3.5 is a stripped version of sense 3.0 for devices with slower CPU the bliss contains 3.5 and it is 800Mhz I think or less.
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
Exactly! Therefore prefer Sense 3.0 to 3.5 for the DHD.
[Desire HD General] hopscotchjunkie:
Not sure about stripped; optimised maybe. What's missing from 3.5 that 3.0 has?

//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
[Desire HD General] miHah:
Unique htc sense dock :)

(the "app drawer, phone, personalize" shortcuts for instance, which is the most famous thing, not counting our htc clock... )
[Desire HD General] hopscotchjunkie:
Aye true, but you can't really call changing the dock bar "a stripped version for slower processors". ;) You've still got the shortcuts to app drawer and phone down there, so all you've lost is the personalize button (which was a waste of space anyway).

//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
[Desire HD General] Hakimy:
Some people make a big deal just because HTC changed the dock.face it guys, sense 3.5 is the next evolution of sense and it has all sense 3.0 features plus new ones.and according to reports, the next phones like vigor and amaze (which are more powerful than sensation) will have sense 3.5 and if you looked at videos, you'll realize how great sense 3.5 really is ;)
[Desire HD General] LilacBleedsHD:
I wish they would because i still 19 months on my contract and this will mean I will want a new phone by then because I will be sooo much in the past it will be unbelievable, I love this phone and all I just wish it would be treated like a new htc phone because not everyone can buy phones which cost like £600 in the uk :( i would the new htc sense :)
[Desire HD General] DanijelDesire:
The htc clock is still present in 3.5, exactly like in 3.0.

Do you really use/need the personalize button on the homescreen? I never used it and it bugged me that it isn't a customizable button..

3.5 seems more clean, elegant and less glossy IMHO.

Not to mention it looks smoother when switching from portrait to landscape AND my favorite, when you change volume, you can swipe with your finger on the volume indicator.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
I like the new sense for its lock screen and extra widgets. Only thing is, that its too slow on my Desire S (official leaked Rom) I don't like to overclock my phone aswell, so I just went back to 2.1+3.0 mix.

Will be quite intersted into seeing 3.5 on my desire s soon! (There are already several roms, but have a Bluetooth problem)
[Desire HD General] dingbatt:
As the OP of this thread I would just like to say 'Yahoo finally!' An official release of Sense 3.0 for the DHD. Even better a rooted version already!

[ROM][DEC 8] Official RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1 STOCK ROOTED

The thing is I bit the bullet, rooted my DHD and loaded the excellent RCMix3D V4.0 Sense 3.5 ROM about a month ago. Still there is the opportunity to flash this stock one thanks to the great work by Nitr00 and compare.
[Desire HD General] Colpophage:
Amen. Haven't seen it put better.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] griffen97023:
I see this question allot and have not had seen any answers to it, so with a little help from you guys heres the way.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Rydah:
Ok, cool thread.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] renzo.olivares:
Well its been ported to sense 2.1 roms you can check it out here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1062962 its mostly for dev only theres no flashable zip for it yet only do it if you know how to use adb fully
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] slickrick54:
Thanks man i appreciate it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] monkeychef:
Man, that wasn't helpful. Plus you already have a 3d. Why would you even post on something like this when you already have full 3.0?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] The Jero:
Because he's a douche.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] DJ_Bizarro:
hes pointing out how crappy a thread this is. this should have been in the q&a not in the themes.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dottat:
Maybe he wanted to share the answer he found to his question here. http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=237&t=1827
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jeremy02:
Hey guys, new to Android and tyring to root my LG Revolution with SuperOneClick. The farthest I can get is...

Killing ABD server...

OK

Starting ADB server...

*daemon not running, starting it now on port 5037*

*daemon started successfully*

OK

Waiting for device...

Then the program either stops responding or just does nothing. USB debugging is turned on in my phone. I read through several pages of the SOC thread and all I saw about this issue is "switch USB ports" which I have done.

Any help would be much appreciated
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jeremy02:
anyone know?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Johnz12321:
Same exact problem, I am in exactly the same position you are. made an account, posted, and no responses. IDK what to do!

LG revolution VS9104G

Also: heres the steps Ive gone through.

2 different computers, all methods tried on each.

win 7 ult x64 and win 7 pro x32

superoneclick 1.91, 2.0beta, 1.7, 1.8 all get to waiting for device and then nobody home....

i got my usb drivers from LG its "LGAndroidDriver_Ver_1.0_All" version 16.0.0.400 9.36 MB

phone specs: bought it last night

android version 2.2.2

Kernel ver 2.6.32.9-perf

lg-electronics@area88 #1

build number VS910ZV4

im trying to root it. ive tried every soc, i have it on debug mode, internet connection as the usb option, the usb drivers says its installed, soc every version runs, starts then gets to waiting for device and thats all the far it goes.....so frustrated. any help would be great, thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Johnz12321:
????

this is what really sucks. i posted this question somewhere where people would read it and a moderater closed it for double posting. well i post it here and get a big ZERO responses after this has been up for a week. this sucks.
[EVO 4G General] Joey_UFC:
Anyone here about sprint having this premier phone on July 6th? I don't want the 3d because i think its useless and i heard someone mention a new sprint phone releasing very soon.

Anybody got more input on this? i didn't hear a name or nothing on google
[EVO 4G General] modmuscle01:
Its probably the Motorola photon. I read something saying it would becoming out in July. Google that phone and see what u find.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
http://goo.gl/Fp7M7

I also believe it could be the photon.
[EVO 4G General] modmuscle01:
What do u guys think about it. Evo rival? It looks to be pretty good but aren't Motorola's hard to root?
[EVO 4G General] modmuscle01:
Do u think the photon will he as good as the evo and 3d
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-photon-4g-sprint/4505-6452_7-34830808.html

The specifications are.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
This might sound crazy to some but i really, and i mean really hate the design of it though. Specs are beast!
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
and matty for crying out loud why do you have all that phone info in you sig man! We used to do that back when i had my tmobile mda and tmo dash lol 0_o
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Honestly, it makes asking a question easier.

Instead of having to include all the information in that post.

Also, you'll notice the links which help for people looking for a specific item listed.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I have to agree, specs are nice, but the form factor, and the angled sides at the top, really?
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
oh yeah i didn't know they were actual links lol, i rarely use xda on the comp, rarely. My bad lol
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Dude i know right, whom ever sat down and had that bright idea needs to be fired immediately lol. Why the hell would i want my phone with each corner sliced off ahahah *scratches head*
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I'm surprised they didn't do the same on the bottom, and use the slogan, 'Motorola Photon, on the cutting edge of smart phones!' -pew pew-

But really, it looks awkward, and might 'potentially' have awkward use in landscape mode if you have small hands cuz the corners may not sit right.

Though I won't buy it, it gets +1 for the kickstand.
[EVO 4G General] Workman.joshua2:
LOL! PEW PEW! You just made my day man;)
[EVO 4G General] Joey_UFC:
idk about you guys but i like it. i dont understand the edges but atleast its different. Different is always good
[EVO 4G General] modmuscle01:
I like it. I don't think the angles are so sharp that it really looks that bad and like everyone said the specs are great. Ill keep my evo even if I do buy the photon just in case.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
everytime i see your sig with yoda in it i just hit the thanks button lmfao. i cant stop laughing at it.
[EVO 4G General] Joey_UFC:
^LOL Dirky (that dont sound right)

but the edges arent something that will keep my away from buying a phone. maybe it there to make it fit in your hand better, or maybe it is just some dumb design but won't know until i hold it in my hands.

Evo is a bit big for my palm, downsizing is a plus for me
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
The specs seem great on paper, but they're easily matched or beaten by the EVO 3D.

It's running 2.2 as opposed to the EVO 3D's 2.3.3

Pentile display versus the 'true' Qhd resolution of the EVO 3D.

The Tegra 2 GPU really isn't all it's cracked up to be, the Adreno 220 easily matches and bests it in some ways.

Also the form factor, as you mentioned, is pretty bad imo.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] itrustno1:
WOW, THE WIFI CONNECTION THING IS SOO MUCH FASTER THAN THE 3G UP N DOWN ARROWS! My son convinced me to get a router thing and now he can get the most out of all those psp's, itouch pods, n stuff that I bought em. So after a few hrs I figured out how to use that wifi on this zio, youtube doesn't freeze anymore, internet seems to always be waiting for me now, but its disconnecting a lot more often the more I use it. Now Im usually waiting on IT to reconnect then click retry and sometimes its even faster to just switch bach to the 3G up n down arrows. Am I not doing something right or is there something I don't know or need to do? (Take it easy on me everybody)

Now I'm so broke i can't even pay attention!

Have u seen Ray Charles house, neither has he!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Fate43:
Depending on the router you got and where it is positioned in your house you may just be losing signal or you may be experiencing interference from something. Try the wifi out for a little while in close proximity to the router, see if it stays connected. If it does and you have no problems move a little further away until you start to disconnect. If this works in reproducing the problem then you know it is one of the two things I listed.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] itrustno1:
It still disconnects when I'm sitting 2ft or 12ft from it with full signal. After it drops connection, then connects back on, if I use it damn near constant it'll blaze through, but if I pause to read a section of news or whatever that takes like 2min, the instant I click something it'll drop and repeat steps above. Id post what kind of router and where I got it but I don't know if posting brand names and company names is against forum rules or what. (PERFECT EXAMPLE: AFTER TYPING THE POST ABOVE, I PRESSED SUBMIT AND WHILE RECEIVING FROM SERVER, WIFI DROPPED)

Now I'm so broke i can't even pay attention!

Have u seen Ray Charles house, neither has he!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Mattix724:
Try this from the home screen...

Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wi-Fi Settings > Menu > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy > Never
[Kyocera Zio M6000] itrustno1:
Thanks again Mattix724, I just can't thank u enough.

Now I'm so broke i can't even pay attention!

Have u seen Ray Charles house, neither has he!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Mattix724:
No problem at all... I don't mind taking two minutes to help, even if I don't have the best answer all of the time.
[HTC EVO 3D] chaos229:
So I just got my Evo 3D and I love the phone but it seems to heat up really quickly. At the store on first boot up it wouldn't load, sales guy did a battery pull then it finally loaded up. I then noticed that within a few minutes the phone was already hot. I gave it a full charge and noticed that the temperature when I was doing light texting was always above 100f. The range it's usually in with light usage is from 100-112f, seems a bit high to me.

What's your battery temp with light usage? Also what is considered the normal battery temperature with light usage and heavy? Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlaydeX15:
I've gotten my OG Evo up to 48C (118.4 F) playing angry birds hardcore. It's sitting at 33 (91.4 F) right now, just pulled it out of my pocket after 5 hours at work not using it at all.

Just remember, your tech is more heal tolerant than you are. I'm reading that Lithium Ion batteries are 100% safe up to 60C (140 F)

Also, it'll be a bit high at first, that's just how the first few charge cycles go... But I'd check to make sure you don't have background apps sitting there draining your battery, that'll make it run hot.
[HTC EVO 3D] chaos229:
Wow didn't know mobile phone batteries could withstand so much heat, just checked it sitting idle and it's at 80f. Funny how quickly the temperature rises though...if I were to start texting it would be back to 100+ in no time.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1212:
Some have indicated that their streak has been bricked.

I think brick means that there is no way to revive the device that costs reasonably less than purchasing a replacement.

How many been in the position that qdl tool didn't revive the phone?

How many have not been able to get their phone running again?