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[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
If you ever owned a MacBook, you will know that it is *still* vastly superior to those at ½ price with similar or better specs!

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Due to this statement, you have but one choice and that is the iPad.

My mum recently got an iPad and loves it, and she's never used a PC full stop.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
I never owned one, but I used Mac OS X a lot at campus + my friends own mac books. And I didn't see the "vast superiority" you are talking about. Could it be the aluminum case ? Or maybe EFI ? Software-wise, Mac Os X is more powerful comparing to Windows, but still sucks comparing to Linux. So, what's so special about it ?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
The fact that it's easy to use. The fact that it has great support. Applications Just Work. No worrying about drivers or dependencies. Super long battery life. Gorgeous screens.

I am a HARDCORE Linux fanboy, I have been for over half of my life, I can't stand the iPhone and absolutely hate Apple, yet I would still consider buying a Macbook Pro. MBP is top of the line as far as hardware goes, the only thing I'd put above it are ThinkPads, but you don't get the super nice easy to use supports everything OS that is OS X.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] starplaya93:
Don't advertise your crap over here dude. If you're leaving, that's fine. good riddance to ya, but don't come over here trying to sell your TF because you couldn't research before making a purchase.

And you're selling for more than it would cost to buy the TF and Dock on amazon for brand new...

jeez.

If I see one more freaking thread like this....

:mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] finalhit:
Isn't this what facebook is for?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Desktop Linux is still an incoherent mess in my opinion, as is installing and removing software. Not trying to start a flame war here, but Linux simply isn't ready for the average man on the street, so I discount it completely from this comparison. I love Linux, but it makes for a far better server OS than desktop OS.

OS/X on the other hand is, and is very usable for even non technical users. Couple this with epic battery life, wake from sleep and reconnecting to wifi in a couple of seconds, and *never* having to reinstall/rebuild the OS, and you have your vast superiority - again, in my opinion!

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
Gnome, Windows vista/7 are also easy to use . Windows has many more productivity applications. Also, Windows is more secure than Mac and Linux, but a lot less safer, because it's being targeted all the time. From my experience, if you get good and popular hardware it will be supported out of the box on Linux and fully/partially on Windows. I don't see a point of buying the fastest laptop on the market, because it's not upgradable like a desktop and it's twice as expensive than a desktop. Also, the price usually drops like crazy after 2-6 months.

7 hours of battery (it's probably much less if you enable turn on everything on the laptop) is nice, but 3 hours on my laptop is more than enough for me. I usually plug-in my laptop right away, so it's never a problem.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AlexTheStampede:
Windows Vista and 7 are the most absurdly insane Windows I've ever used. XP is waaaaay better, less complex at least. Sure, maybe now you can do things in a simpler way, then when the need for something barely under the hood arises... where the hell did they hide the settings? Windows is becoming what osx has always been compared to Linux a (debatable) good interface hiding the innards of the os, with the difference that in this case they just went "our users are retards, let's hide as many settings as possible".

More productivity applications. Do you really need more than a good one? Choice is good, don't misunderstand me, but OpenOffice, iWork and MS Office are pretty much the thing to look for. And MS has Office for Mac.

You don't see the need to buy a fast laptop. Seriously, what are you doing in this section? With the same money spent on the TF you could get a desktop computer with better specs... but you lose portability. Go cheap, and you will need a new one sooner. Yeah, expensive laptops make perfect sense. Plus Apple hardware never drops in price, even used ones are not cheap.

Anyway, as mentioned earlier, Apple has high quality standards, so you get a good reliable machine, with a good os and the whole package will still be productive in a few years, and averagely less issues than a Windows machine will give you.

Clearly you need the right setup depending on your needs: a server will be "more UNIX" the more important it gets, a gaming machine will be more Windows the more serious the gaming and so on. A Mac is a good compromise between a server and a toy, leading to a great choice for a desktop OS. Plus it's targeted towards multimedia use/creation making that a good market for Apple.

The perfect OS doesn't exist, but they all have a field that makes them better than the competition. You know, pick the right tools for the job :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Digiguest:
GTFO.

Exactly. Only a closed minded moron would not see that.

Here is an example..... :rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
You know what separates you from the rest of the people who defended mac here ? They provide a constructive feedback and I now agree with some of the stuff they say. But you sound like a retarded sheep that follows Uncle Steve's commands. Don't have anything to say .... then shut the hell up.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
The OS X vs. the world mentality cracks me up. Speaking for myself, I bought a MacBook Pro in early 2008 because I was so frustrated with Vista on my Toshiba Tablet PC. Turns out all of the problems I was experiencing were Toshiba's fault--horrible, horrible drivers, but nevertheless I used the MacBook Pro as my primary machine for 18 months.

Let me say, I didn't like it. It was NOT more stable than other Windows machines I've owned, and when it had issues it was harder to fix. I disliked the overall look and feel of the OS, and simply abhorred its window and file management scheme. I hated how the menus all stay on one screen in a two-screen setup, and the Finder rubs me wrong.

Once I tried Windows 7 on another notebook, I stopped using the MacBook Pro and eventually sold it. I'll say that OS X might be better for the novice who's unwilling to spend a few minutes learning how to do something, which I think applies to the iPhone vs. Android debate as well. It's particularly true of the iPad 2 vs. Honeycomb tablet debate: Honeycomb is vastly superior to iOS on the iPad in terms of overall functionality, customizability, and productivity, but only if one is willing to take 15 minutes to learn its tricks.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
Haha... Windows and GNOME usable? If you're a nerd, sure. 99% of end users are not nerds.

7 hours of battery life? The newer MBP's get 12-14 hour battery life, even with wireless/comfortable brightness.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] digitheatre:
windows for nerds? ok.. so I guess my grandma is a nerd then LOL :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
Yeah, tell me what she's going to do when some cryptic coredump pops up on the screen. Oh what's that? That's right, she is going to do absolutely nothing, or she is going to call someone to fix it for her. Windows is not user friendly. If you think it is, you're either ignorant or haven't tried OS X.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
What's so hard about using gnome? It's point-n-click, how much easier does it have to be? All of the applications can be installed from a GUI program. Windows is even easier.

It says 7 on the official page..

"Wireless web testing conducted by Apple in February 2011 using preproduction 2.7GHz dual-core Intel Core i7–based 13-inch MacBook Pro units. The wireless web test measures battery life by wirelessly browsing 25 popular websites with display brightness set to 50%. Battery life varies by use and configuration. See www.apple.com/batteries for more information."

So, I find 12-14 hours hard to believe, unless of course you take huge breaks in between.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
IMHO, Macbooks may be overpriced, but so are LV bags. People buy what they like.

All the laptops are made by the same Chinese factories, so build quality isn't going to be vastly different. I believe the latest quality survey ranks Apple 4th (Asus rated higher).

The real problem is software. Macs have hardly any games and software. Windows 7 is far superior in that regard. There's no comparing to the millions of programs available for Windows.

Heck, can't even use OneNote on a Mac. For productivity and games, there's simply no comparison.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
Umm... Mac Os x also gets a nice kernel panics... So, it's absolutely the same situation. If she doesn't know how to fix it, then she will ask someone to fix it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AlexTheStampede:
And by extension iOS is far superior to Android. You said it.

It has a nice image of the power button, and text in several languages telling you to shut down and restart. Also, how is a kernel panic different from a BSOD? The biggest difference is how often they happen. And if restarting won't fix it....

... no matter the os, if you don't know what to do you are screwed. The other day OSX got an update that didn't like at all a software I had installed (firewallish thing.... can't really define it better) so I had a kernel panic while booting, and no way around it. It did mention where things stopped working, so I put the Mac in target mode (becomes a fairly expensive firewire hard disc), connected it to another Mac, went straight for the system folder and deleted the kernel extension of that software. Unmout, shut down, boot, all is fine with the world. You do the target mode trick without a Mac. Saved me another time, this one was actually impressive from the OS side of things: an update went wrong (no clue how, likely another stupid dig deeping software) and I couldn't start it anymore. Target mode, other Mac, download the cmbo update (full update as opposed to the progressive one that borked me), started it and crossed my fingers.... well, OSX updates the right OS, you just need to select the right partition, and you can apply an update to another Mac without any issue. Try to download a service pack for Windows and tell it to install the thing on say, F: instead of C: lol.

BTW: http://twitter.com/#!/koush/status/82935188077809664 guess what he uses? But what does he know about computers, right? XD (this is what you get generalizing)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
Nope, *you* said that. Windows vs. Mac software is millions vs. thousands. iOS has 400K vs. Android 300K... hardly a big difference.

And Android is catching up. Macs don't have the quality or quantity of programs, and likely never will.

My next laptop is most likely AMD Llano anyway, and Macbooks don't use AMD.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AlexTheStampede:
500k+ versus 200k+ it's more than twice. If you remove the apps infringing copyrights from the Market you surely lose a few thousands. Also the 99$ of yearly subscription ensure an average quality that is above the one of Android apps. The way I see the two markets is roughly like this:

App Store: tons of stupid games, and a minority of AWESOME games/software (especially audio ones)

Android Market: tons of crap, and a minority of jaw dropping tools that allow you to do unspeakable things to the device, plus sprinkles of worthy games here and there, but those are mostly iOS ports, so...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aligatro2010:
For the last 6 years I think I only saw a BSOD once or twice, and same for linux kernel panics. Also, Mac os X kernel panic doesn't provide any useful information.

"Please restart your pc" is not very useful. Most users would press on restart button as soon as they figure out that their machine is not responding.

BSOD provides you with an ERROR code that you can right down and also gives the steps to fix the problem on your own.

AlexTheStampede, I'd rather have access to a market with quality apps than quantity. So, that 400k number means absolutely nothing. Why would I need 20 variations of fart apps? Also, don't forget that many apps on Android Market are ad supported unlike iOS...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AlexTheStampede:
Your experience with BSODs is like mine with kernel panics. On the other hand, I find difficult to imagine a month without a BSOD, and this is comparing my Mac with tons of random crap installed with my gaming box that is dedicated to Steam. I do recognize that after the beta XP became reliable for everyday use, took them 2 service packs, but it happened.

20 variations of fart apps, and you mention quality above quantity. Don't get me there, just don't. The Market is what I really think makes Android inferior to iOS. Go on, remove also the "sexy" apps that are averagely just a bunch of pictures and plenty of ads, you'll be missing those puny 20 variations of fart apps, the market is full of that sort of things :-|

And iOS too has plenty of ad supported things (not as many, true), namely my favorite handeld game ever, Tower Madness. Demo, paid, and full with ads.

I miss it ;_;

Badly.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
LOL... well, at *most* it's more than twice. Windows vs. Mac is several _magnitudes_. Not even close in comparison.

IMHO, Android's advantage is the launchers (Go Launcher EX is awesome) and the widgets. I get my weather, newsfeeds, to-do lists, calendar, etc. all on my home screen(s). Takes me less than a minute to get up to date for the day.

With iPhone, the interface is simple and easy, but not useful. Basically, the interface is bunch of icons.

iOS may have better paid apps, but I think Android has better free apps. iOS has more games, but they're all too casual (and boring) to me. Gonna be a few years before tablets have the horsepower for high-end games. Heck, even fastest $2000+ MBP would hardly be fast enough for that (if it had games, of course).

BTW, Android has the best Mah Jong game arguably (Mahjong and Friends). And for me, that's really the only important phone game I've found. ;)

I guess it wouldn't be right to hijack the thread to discuss, "Hey, what apps are you running?" LOL!

Edit: Link removed to avoid "selling things". <Cough>
[Eee Pad Transformer General] magicpork:
can a mod please close this post? all these non sense mac book pro talks are irrelevent to this place, and selling anything here is not allowed anyway. And to the op, just go away and enjoy the mbp in your own fantasy world, more than 90% people in this world can't care less about anything running Mac osx
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AlexTheStampede:
Fair about the offtopic (been thiking about that myself) however.... asking that a thread to be closed right after you made a point is sort of asking to have the last word. Not very classy.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sassafras_:
Hey guys! Do you know what makes this world fun?

Opinions.

Do you know what opinions are not?

Facts.

If you can't tell the two apart, then maybe you should stand up and walk away from your keyboard until your zeal wears off a little. If you can't do that, then maybe read this instead:

http://gizmo.do/9azunr

sassafras
[Eee Pad Transformer General] joe_dude:
Sorry sassafras, but I have to respectfully disagree.

The line between the "facts" and "opinions" is often blurred. Facts are only true until there is more knowledge and a greater understanding.

There was a time when it was a "fact" that the sun revolved around the earth, and the world is 4000 years old. Heck, there are still (a few) people who believe this. Newtonian physics seemed correct until Einstein came along with the Theory of Relativity.

That's why forums are a wonderful mixing pot for ideas, is it not? :) Yeah, there are trolls, but that's what moderators are for. ;)

Okay, enough for me... I'm done.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] earlyberd:
The last time I had to manually install a driver or fish around for a dependency in Linux was several years ago. Today I upgrade all of my software with a single command. If it's not in the repos, chances are that it's not a worthwhile piece of software for the average user.

MacBooks are not top of the line in terms of hardware, and anyone that would claim so hasn't done their research. Apple sells their devices at a premium to offset the development costs of the operating system, which is why OS upgrades only cost about $30. That extra money you spent does not guarantee you're getting the latest and greatest in hardware, you're just getting the Apple stamp of approval. System76 sells better hardware for hundreds of dollars cheaper, and all of their laptops come pre-loaded with Ubuntu, tested and guaranteed for compatibility and stability. They sell them with the same LED-backlit screens that you'd find in Apple laptops, and unlike Apple hardware you can opt for extended batteries for even better battery life.

"Hardcore" Linux fanboys should know the difference between a good piece of hardware and a poor piece of hardware that just sports a fancy aluminum shell. It's not like Apple holds exclusive rights to pretty screens and fast processors, they use off-the-shelf hardware just like everybody else, because it's just not cost-effective to attempt to design and manufacture everything in-house. They'd like for their consumers to think that they put more into their hardware than just designing the enclosure and software, but the truth is that they don't. It's all just a carefully crafted marketing scheme, and it makes you look really bad when you start to regurgitate it upon others.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
Sadly YOU are wrong.

Sadly the universe revolving around the earth was never a fact, as the very first astronomers already had concluded it didn't, it's just religions that spouted that.

Religion still claims many things as facts which are not, will never be, and never were facts.

On top of that, Newtonian physics were never a fact either, they were a theory, just like how the theory of relativity is a THEORY, because they know it doesn't answer everything, it's just seemingly the most accurate at that time, that doesn't mean people and even Newton believed it was the final answer.

Now please move along and stop trying to talk about things you do not understand.

The line between fact and opinion isn't blurred at all by the way, a fact is always supported by evidence, an opinion is not something that has to be supported by evidence, in FACT it needs no actual basis of truth at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] frosty5689:
+1, if you want a Mac, then you're willing to suffer from the lack of flexibility and control that you're given access to. Frankly, thats combined with lack of compatibility with most industry level software is what turns a lot of people away from buying one.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] TheHybridFrog:
Thread started as OP with buyer's remorse trying to get an easy ad in for his transformer sale.

Derailed to an argument about macs between fanboys (on an android forum, rotfl).

Will continue on to win worst thread on XDA this week guaranteed.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] AlexTheStampede:
As if. If you are aware that something you need dosen't have a Mac version, you did some research, aka informed purchase. Quite the opposite of "most people" :D

BTW: Autocad, Maya, Adobe Creative Suite, MS Office, Avid products and others. No doubt several ones aren't there, but really? Did I miss something THAT big?

As a side note, I'm quitting here... feels bad fueling such a massive off topic.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
You forgot the part where Adobe Creative Suite runs better on Windows and has better hardware acceleration on Windows. I would know, I actually use these programs to make a living and I can tell you they run exactly the same or better on Windows. And yes they all have OSX versions, but Windows has a way more massive software library.

Also no Visual Studio on OSX, and OSX is a terrible development platform in general.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mskip:
Thread has degraded soo far off topic (not that there was really a topic to start with)..

Anyway items for sale should not be discussed in these forums so this thread is closed.

Mark.
[Galaxy Tab General] developer40:
FYI, I sent my GT for repair on 6-8-11 they received it on 6-13-11 was fixed on 6-21-11 ( label printed that day ) still waiting to be shipped back to me as of 6-25-11 still hasn't been shipped back yet.

Samsung claims 5-7 business days to fix it, then 3-5 days to ship it back, guess that means 3-5 days for ups to pick it up then extra time for the actual shipping.

This is what you should expect if you need service.

Hope this helps somebody.
[Galaxy Tab General] alexgogan:
it is also working days not weekends so by next tuesday if you have not received it then its running late >:¬{
[Galaxy Tab General] Declan79:
in my country samsung really good in customer service also after sales, from my previous experience to claim bluetooth headset gtab wont able to pairing, even though i should wait for the new replacement but the customer sevice from the head office is call to make sure its done.....yesterday i put my gtab back there, it happened the made in china battery is about to change with korean and still wait for some part to change till next tuesday....i believe samsung has a good same standard in this case:)
[Galaxy Tab General] Declan79:
It happened my new korean battery n machine already done yesterday, 1day faster then it prpmise.

So satosfied with samsung, waot for you mate

genuine asia gingerbread
[Galaxy Tab General] Maniken50:
Sent mine in on a Friday about a month back.. got it back the following Thursday.
[Galaxy Tab General] developer40:
Got it 6-27-11, there system and employees were never updated but turns out it was shipped on 6-21-11 but, no one knew about it till it was actually delivered, that was crazy thought it was lost..
[Galaxy Tab General] Declan79:
where are you anyway? i wonder how come the samsung centre services like that??
[Galaxy Tab General] MAJE5T1C:
I had the same problem sent mine off to samsung i used special delivery so they had it the next day

I was following the tracking and work done from there site and nothing seemed to be happening with it so i phoned them up wast of time they didnt know a thing about it and just said wait longer

the onlt time i new it was fixed was when the royal mail man posted it through my letter box in a daft little envelop

Im amazed it never got smashed on the return trip back to me very bad service setup i through:eek:
[Galaxy Tab General] tabing:
so developer40 are you happy with your rma'd product did they fix the issue?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Bonetwizt:
Does anyone know if there is a way to get a folder to show up in the wallpapers menu? Or a way to add images to the folder that already displays there?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] frosty5689:
Only way is through Gallery.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] anto.danny:
Ahhhh...this might be dum but can some one find this wallpaper for me...:)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] vazeer:
search it on ur own, forum is for helping users and development and not for doing homeworks.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] shreyasvb:


Even m in search of t same from 2months!! I ve seen it in a few reviews n I tot it ws default :-P I googled n did some research in other sites..still dint find it :'(

Please please do post it here if u get it!

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] stranxk:
i think that wallpaper comes as default with "three", a mobile uk operator, just take a look at their site...

http://www.three.co.uk/ (no, i didn't found the wallpaper on their site)

and here is the source of that image, you could try to contact the person who did the review

http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/03/samsung-galaxy-ace-review-hardware-user-interface/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] shreyasvb:
:(:( tats sad...m wondering whether there is a website whic has collection of stock wallpapers :-P