yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Nice.

Stinks about Sprints stock.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Come oooooonnnnnn Google...
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I noticed they announced a net loss of $847 Million. That's quite a lot. Anyways, as much as I hate to say it, you're right. Sprint's network isn't bad (at least it's the best available in Florida, I think). It may be much, much different for people in other states. Perhaps they need to rush on the LTE upgrade, as well as announcing an iPhone. I said I hated to say it, but if every other carrier but Sprint has an iPhone, they're at a huge disadvantage. Especially noting that iPhone is pretty much what half of AT&T's customer base uses. lol
[Epic 4G General] FrameCityJackal:
Damn thats amazing on how much of a loss they have. If we would get the iphone you know contactprices would more than likely go up at least $10 more just because it's a iphone.....

Sent from my EPICUREAN EXT-4
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I heard that iPhone 4S (which is rumored for Sprint soon) will have an additional $20 fee per month. I'm guessing this is their commission price for Apple.
[Epic 4G General] FrameCityJackal:
So it will be the normal $ 10 premium data plus 20?

Sent from my EPICUREAN EXT-4
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Yes. Smartphone fee ~ $10. Apple iPhone fee ~ $20. Add 'em together and it's like a smartphone plan on any other carrier (minus T-mobile). ~$30 /month.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
I assume that many jumped ship when Verizon got the iPhone.

Sprint will also be a dwarf third of ATT-TMobile if the merger goes through; half of Verizon.

Sprint and Clearwire both have a crapload of debt, bleeding subscribers, and an undefined 4G strategy.

If the iPhone 5 comes out on the other carriers this September and not Sprint, it may be a death knell.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Yea, doesn't look good for Sprint at the moment. All they can do is advertise better pricing and introduce an iPhone. I think they'll make it out alive though. Verizon wont be buying a company that has that much debt...at least I don't think they will. Verizon's a monster though, they can probably afford it. lol
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Perennial headache of Sprint is that juggle so many different technologies and frequencies: iDEN, CDMA, Wimax, LTE.

I doubt Verizon would want to inherit such a disjointed network.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
lol, and you're forgetting Nextel's GSM. :P

EDIT: Oops no you didn't, that's iDen.

Edit2: They could buy out Sprint to eliminate future competition. It'd come at a cost, but it'd future proof the CDMA technology. lol
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
iDEN is being phased out in 2013, that was in the press release
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
What a waste of a takeover. Nextel looks like it hardly helped Sprint. What was Sprint's last CEO thinking?

I think Dan Hesse is da man. He's doing good for the company, with what he has.
[Epic 4G General] RSPC:
Good article on Sprint's Loss/Gain

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...1m-subs-q2-along-17m-wimax-devices/2011-07-28
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
2013 is a long time away.

Just look at RIMM (blackberry) and Nokia two years after iPhone and then Android.
[Epic 4G General] roenick92:
Sprint is a bad company- managerially. Nextel was awesome. Sprint has a great network, and can't sell it. Nextel cornered the market on business subscribers- the most lucrative kind of subscribers. Sprint's #1 task was to kill Nextel after the acquisition (merger), and it succeeded. You can ask what was sprint thinking, but only after the merger. If anything Sprint should have put their weight and resources behind growing Nextel as much as possible, but they let it wither and die. If you had Nextel's management team instead of Sprint's in charge, you'd probably have the #2 carrier on the way up, instead of always being 3rd in a 3 horse race.
[Epic 4G General] DJSmoove:
I don't know If anyone seen this but there is a new build coming out tomorrow EG29. I seen this when I just clocked in to work today. So hoping this might be the final build before release.

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EG29.rdf
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
It's just another WEEKLY build.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Updated title, added new tag :)

Added new rdf to OP.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D600/EG15.rdf

Latest D600 build RDF, and inside it says Android 2.3.2
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Hey Zander, the M930 is Boost Mobile, not Sprint. Sprint is just the one developing it for them.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Edit: fail post lol
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Sprint's SGSII is the only one that's passed through the FCC in the USA? That must mean it'll be the first sgs2 on the market for us, right?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I hope so, but a lot of people seem to think that Verizon will. Idk why, though.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Verizon will. It might be a few months later, but until then they'll push the Droid 3 and the Charge. They already can buy time by being the carrier with service and diverse stock. They'll also charge you through the nose for fake **** and rely on ignorance to pay the bills. I'd love to compile their list if fake charges they incur over the course of the year to make up for shortfalls.

Sent from bat country!
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Damn I want some more news on the within

Screw carriers they all suck

Sprint = ****ty 3/4g

Verizon = mad expensive

at&t = ****ty service + expensive

T mobile = crappy phones
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
At least sprint is cheap. Lol
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
One of the most accurate posts I've ever seen ever.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Idk about the mobile having bad phones. But in my ranking this is how it goes.

Verizon - best service but slow and expensive

At&t - expensive and sub par coverage

Sprint - cheap and good coverage with decent speeds.

T mobile - the worst overall. Terrible coverage and terrible speeds, but cheap and wide variety of phone choices
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Sprint is pro in Florida, but I think they're outclassed in other states by cometitors.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Verizon has coverage like everywhere in Alabama lol Sprint is spotty here, 3g stinks, and no 4g.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
That'll change here soon. Nextel covers a large amount of area that sprint doesn't. That includes the entire southeast area. My area is terrible for sprint, but everywhere else I go sprint beats Verizon easily.

That includes Florida as a whole, north Georgia, Washington dc, and new york.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Lol everytime i speedtest my friend,, who has an htc aria, I win in speedtests. He gets like on average 300 kbps dl, while i get nearly 1100 pretty much everywhere around me. My cousin has a verizon droid 2 global and sprint beats him everytime, too. The only worthy opponent in my area is the droid charge's lte, which sprint beats roughly by 20kbps dl. Both of us scored 8700 dl but sprint was like barely higher lol. I do think lte is cooler because you don't have to toggle it to use it.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Same here in Illinois. Everytime I have no bars, my friend on Verizon has full lol.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
It really is annoying. And sometimes, I have 0 signal, and my friends on vzw have full, but mine won't roam. But, it roams other times.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Thats also a bad thing. Having the lte antenna turned on permanently torches your battery. Turn on your wimax antenna and leave it on. You now have the same effect as the verizon customers have.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
For some reason my phone hasn't roamed in ages. Maybe I have it off or something, but idk.

Also, my signal drops from 3 to 1, to nothing to 3...it's really annoying. I need to switch my modem to EG22...

Oh btw, check your PMs.
[Epic 4G General] pvtjoker42:
i've got the eg22 modem, and the area i'm in i constantly get signal drops (spend most of the day in 0 signal on wifi anyway) but it's the same story for any modem i've tried, and i've tried them all.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Samfirmware confirms they will deliver for us mid and end of august!

Sent from bat country!
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
https://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/97003492979380224
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2368..._phone_that_mixes_business_with_pleasure.html

http://m.bgr.com/2011/07/29/motorola-photon-4g-review/

First Photon 4G review
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
:sad face: I was hoping by mid August not to need a leak.
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
By now I wouldn't even expect anything more than leaks
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
I know... that blows their late august deadline out of the water
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Thats why im just sticking with ef02. it works and its gingerbread.
[Epic 4G General] 5FOOTER:
I have a verizon phone for work and i do get full signal but i get alot of dropped calls. Bars mean nothing if calls drop. By the way im in northern VA close to Wash DC.
[Epic 4G General] duce102:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAtfRMC3ybY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

PHOTON unboxing I thought people might enjoy this
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I don't think my Epic has ever dropped a call.

Sent from bat country!
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
On eg22 I haven't dropped a call yet. On previous gb roms I got to a point where I couldn't hold a call longer than 4 seconds
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I found EG22 modem to be impressive but it killed my battery.

Sent from bat country!
[Epic 4G General] :
Are you on a rfs rom?
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Take samfirmware statements with a grain of salt.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Man this thread is a monster.
[Epic 4G General] 5FOOTER:
Yeah my epic dont drop calls even with one bar, but my work vzw fone drops calls like crazy.
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
Where is the Photon 4G subforum
[Epic 4G General] scooterman:
ec05 killed my battery and the phone would get super hot when on 3g data, wifi actually saved battery. I'm now getting 24hr battery life out of EG22
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Next week
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Finicky ass phone. I love it, hahaha!
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
Lol as usual thank you kind sir
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Yeah..

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Yep...
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
I'm not going to quote all of that but PIXLZ thanks for that normal person explanation cause god knows some people make it more difficult than it should be.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
This part is incorrect. Srpint will be using 1X Advance, not 3G
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
The problem is time and debt. Sprint, Lightsquared, and Clearwire are highly leveraged. Interest-payments alone are a big killer on their bottom line. There were many customers who bought Sprint 4G phones in 2010 with the expectation that 4G was coming to their area, but Clearwire ran out of money for the expansion.

Another wildcard is federal approval. Lightsquared's GPS conflict issue is far from over.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Do you know what bands they'll be using for 1x? They should get something like the 2.5 ghz.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
800 & 1900 & 2500
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Why don't they give push-to-talk Nextel the higher bands. They don't use that much data anyway. LTE on 800 would be awesome.
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Network Vision has nothing to do with iDen. Motorola isn't making all the network vision equipment and they are not licensing it to anyone, nor would any company want to put the time and effort into developing equipment that no one else will use. Sprint also would not want to sink the money into brand new iDen equipment for the entire country when they are going to shut it all down.
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
I don't see how they plan on doing this since 1X advanced will not be until Network Vision hits. Plus they state the PTT new phones will work even when roaming.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
It will work on 3G as well, just will not be as effective.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Big news! Samsung M930 and LG Optimus Black coming to Sprint!!

http://briefmobile.com/samsung-m930-and-lg-optimus-black-coming-to-sprint
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
I'm going to start the rumor of sometime between Sept 1st and 10th for official Gingerbread. My source is myself lol. I just am making an educated guess :D
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Added to the OP.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Op

I'd add this as a joke to the OP, but I now I'd get flamed 0_o

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I still haven't heard back from my guy, but I'm sticking to August 22
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Geez when will the Within be announced? lol
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Nevar!!! Its their master plan.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
FYI my best guess on the mystery date is 10/2/2011. Just paste 40881 into Excel and the convert to a date. Yeah, I work with who don't know how to work with Excel.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Damn I have to jump ship by early september

Within you better be f***ing be released by then
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Within must come out soon, especially if it passed FCC already...

P.S. First post in August in this thread. :)
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I'm going to vote for July as the month we get GB now. They still have 50 minutes to release it in my time zone. GO Sprint GO!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
According to my timezone, they now have 40 minutes exactly.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
According to my timezone, it should be out 48 minutes ago!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Lol, it ain't coming in july. Oh well, at least there's august.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Optimus black October 2nd
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Lol, Korey, someone beat you to it. Although, it was just a guess. Lol I'm glad you confirmed it though.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Echo not getting wifi calling or nfc support. It's on my site
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I figured so about NFC cause that requires the hardware part(right?), but wifi calling would've been cool.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yeah it does require the hardware, which is lacking in the Echo. But the rep I talked to said they were experimenting with the features and they weren't ready for release. I thought WiFi calling would have been awesome. It would have been the first US phone to support it.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Doesnt the app vibe allow wifi calling already.
[Epic 4G General] atharchian:
EG30

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EG30.rdf
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
Curiouser and Curiouser...

EG14, EG22, EG29, EG30... Wonder what this means? They're working hard at finalizing it and they're knocking down the last bugs? Or maybe each time they tighten one nut another nut becomes loose? Or something completely different?
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
It means August 22 is upon us.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
I've known that for a year now. :p

(its my birthday)

Now I'm wondering whether I'm getting an early birthday present, belated one or whether its gonna be exactly on time.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Bleh, first day I start school lol.
[Epic 4G General] metalblaster:
mid to late august meaning never right? before it was july which has already come and gone... now its august... Its all about touchwiz and how samsung and sprint are a bunch of garbage companies.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
At least you're not bitter.
[Epic 4G General] tony45x220:
Haha! Same here my dude UT-Chattanooga in the building...hopefully be on campus with a fresh official GB ROM on deck...hopefully..

Sent from my rooted, suited, & booted Epic 4G kno dat!
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Priceless.

anyways, reminds me of working on my jeep "I fixed it!", next day.... wait, whats this now...
[Epic 4G General] NateWhite:
Yeah I know what you mean on the Jeep. I have been using EG22 since it came out and it's really really close. Much better than when EB13 was released and even better than EC05 for me.

I can't imagine what would keep them from releasing GB this month.

Just my 2 cents..

Nate
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
release SGS2 before GB for Epic? Theyve made a lot of revisions... oh and why do people keep referencing Samsung, arent the RDFs posted on Sprints site... im thinking its the Sprint devs lagging here...
[Epic 4G General] Art2Fly:
That is probably going to happen, however, I walked into a sprint store the other day, and the epic is everywhere... but also is the hero, they need to keep up with the times. At the rate we are going, it will be at least a month IF EG22 was final, but it better not be, so if we indeed get two more builds for the month of August, I expect release Late September, and Source in October... and cm7 in december :)
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
G2?

Sent from my S-Off'd, Synergised EVO 3D
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Coincidentally the same day I start college.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Not the USA version. Unless gingerbread enabled it and I didn't hear about it.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I didnt watch this, but it showed up on google.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uPLq3Lr9s

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
EG29, then EG30 and now EH02?

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH02.rdf
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
It goes from EH02 to EH05, with everyday a build. From the looks of it, EH05 will be the last build. Either that or they just haven't put all the future ones in yet.

Why does Sprint post RDFs? It's nice for us to see progress, but that can't be why they do it.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Lol we aren't even suppose to know about this stuff.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Added to op

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH03.rdf

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH04.rdf

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH05.rdf

Odd, I guess when they churn out multiple builds in a day they have to change the names to something else. I guess EH02a, EH02b, etc would be unacceptable so they just moved it up to EH03 and beyond.
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
looks like they invented a time machine...

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I think they are on to us haha.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
How do the build RDF's differ from one another. I know that at some point it went from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 as the OSVersion but as Barbossa once said, "There are a lot of long words in there, Miss; we're naught but humble pirates." :D
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
Maybe the last build EH05 will be last build before release and from now on they will build every day and test until this Friday.... Maybe?
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Hmm, it's possible they could be really close to their final build and are just testing it and testing it before they are certain to release it. I still believe it won't be released until Aug 22 officially, but it's possible they may be done this week.
[Epic 4G General] formula84:
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[Epic 4G General] Art2Fly:
So, by my amaizing math skills, august has 31 days, so we should ge tthe leak on the 15th at 12pm... ON THE SECOND.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Leaks slow development. Boo new leaks
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
This is exactly my feeling with the epic. Every time I flash a rom it starts out great, then either the battery sucks or modem is crap or both!:mad:
[Epic 4G General] dmauin717:
Sprint's Galaxy S II dubbed "Epic Touch 4G" launches in September...... says BGR

http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/02/sprin...-samsung-epic-touch-4g-launches-in-september/
[Epic 4G General] cds0699:
Rumor: http://phandroid.com/2011/08/02/rum...ed-samsung-epic-touch-4g-launching-september/

Edit - looks like I am too late
[Epic 4G General] amwworks:
Beat me to

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
what was the last rumor on the nexus 3? with the new premier i may end up waiting on that
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I now own the Motorola Photon 4G
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
how are you liking it? i i dont' know if i could leave the SAMOLED screen.. it still blows me away
[Epic 4G General] FrameCityJackal:
Rumored to have google plus button

http://androidandme.com/tag/Nexus-3/

http://androidcommunity.com/rumor-h...-be-a-google-phone-called-the-nexus-20110711/

I do know these are debunked sorta but still worth a read
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
huh.... i was thinking that it was a done deal that it was a sammy phone. not sure if i'd get another brand right now.
[Epic 4G General] professoroak:
Damn, the SGSII looks irresitible. But with the Nexus 3 right around the corner idk what to do! Me hungy for some ice cream sammiches!
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/02/dual-core-motorola-pax-for-sprint-leaks/

cool work phone
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
And how much is it going to cost you to root it? ;)

Sent from my S-Off'd, Synergised EVO 3D
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
It is actually really nice. Moto blur is a huge kill joy. After i installed launcher pro i was set. This thing actually is pretty amazing.

And also me and kenneth are trying to get a sbf file so we can get perma root without webdock.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Not a rumor but a great deal, the Nexus S is free tomorrow (if you have an upgrade) at bestbuy.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
It look pretty bulky with todays standards and that hardware. Can you still get tge epic touch 4g?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Oh snap!! Lol jk

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Soon we will need to rename this the "Everything but Epic 4G" thread.
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
stfu ... i personally don't like the evo ... u know what im not gonna feed into the bull!! .. im good on ef02... some of y'all really think u hard **** in these forums .. real talk .. im not the one!! but if sep is the date then i won't be having the epic much longer ... but im not getting an evo

u also gotta consider froyo was about 6 months in when the epic came out ... i look at it from the release date of the phone not the firmware..
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
No one has gotten 'timely' updates by your standards. Just sayin'. I'm not sure how reasonable your expectations are.

Many phones got froyo somewhat fast, but average wait for everyone had been 6-8 months from froyo to gb.

Sent from Godot's place.
[Epic 4G General] duce102:
EDIT: Deleted upon valid request
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Y'all is a word...I'm not sure if that is the one we are talking about, but it seems like it's the only one worth mentioning
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Either way, as far as it goes, I love to debate. I will be sarcastic and dig at you, but I'm not looking to offend or embarrass anyone. I just hate when it breaks down into insults. Please let me know if I've bothered you. I will apologize and I'm not too big to admit I'm wrong. My main issue is that Samsung has been ok with updates and leaks, in my opinion. It's a good phone and may take extra effort, but I've always been impressed with the results. My wife was shopping and I took time with the phones at the Sprint store and I am still in love with the Epic. I even think the 3d style may start getting built into phones. It just adds depth, but I did like it. The screen itself was still dull to me, but I think it could be improved.

Sent from Godot's place.
[Epic 4G General] duce102:
+1

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