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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
You've done the ext4 conversion which is why the battery animation isn't going. You can try vol down + power on when the phone is completely off to get into download mode. Once there (you'll see a big yellow triangle sign with an exclamation mark in the middle) you can try plugging the USB cable in and seeing if your computer recognizes your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
yay its known with disabling lag fix we should prob update the original post to reflect that.

its the only way to keep ext 4 on data with keeping rfs on cache and system well u can tell voodoo to not ext 4 system but u cant tell it to not on cache. if we could get voodoo to just apply for just data only she would stop :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] shotchacokov:
a small price to pay for such a large reward...

would having a secondary partition on the SD still benefit us? if so, what format should it be?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
i assume u mean the ext 4 secondary parttion with link2sd to move apps to well more free internal never helps ur more then welcome to try it i havent...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lenny hodapp:
Try waiting longer when going into recovery. Take the battery out hold both volume buttons and power put battery back in when the screen comes on let off power and keep holding the volume buttons if voodoo took it will take longer when getting into recovery
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] shotchacokov:
Thanks! I'll just use Ti Pro to keep it all on the SD.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lenny hodapp:
I have tried link2sd will not work for me on 3.1
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] chadder:
I've tried this and held the volume keys for about 4-5 minutes. Should it take that long or am I just being impatient? It only continues sitting at the SGS4G screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
I edited the ext4 converter to not convert /system and /cache, only /data gets converted and I tried flashing bali 3.1 but the conversion still happens after the reboot. Is there a way to make the kernel think that everything is in ext4 (since that was the only way that the conversion wouldn't happen on every reboot for me)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
If I ODIN back to KD1, will my red CWM be gone? Im not sure if I removed CWM from my SD card and I'm currently at work -.-'
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lenny hodapp:
No it doesn't take that long
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lostsauce:
Tried this as well and its a no go for now. Just using apps2sd instead.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
Your prob softbricked...

Odin back to a kd one u can get cwm on make sure

you have update zip on ur sd card

the frost rom or black ice which ever flavor you want..

the converter zip file.

step 1 start up odin

step 2 put the kd1 rom in the pda section of the phone in odin

step 3 while the phone is powered off Press and hold vol up and down and insert the usb will put u back in download mode.

step 4 hit flash and wait.

step 5 reboot phone in to recovery mode vol up and down button pressed and hold and hit the power button this will boot you in to recovery. Goto reinstall packages IF you get no update found ummm make sure you have ur sd card in the phone :P (been there done that).

step 6 install update from sd but then go down to choose zip file to install and choose the converter.zip let it rip

step 7 after the converter is done back out of that screen and goto mounts

cache /unmount

data /mount

sdcard /mount

system /unmount

If those are not that way make them so back out of that screen and go back to install from update and choose the zip file u want here pick eather black ice and or frost.

step 8 install your rom via cwm. IT will then install the rom when done put u back into the cwm screen.

step 9 optional YOu can go back and install the bali 3.1 kernel if you wish before rebooting and or stick with 3.0 (black ice default) Or balli 2.7 (frost default)

step 10 reboot the phone using cwm to reboot.

step 11 let the rom load First boot time will take a bit if you are on black ice u will get linda ( or anyone that installed voodo 3.1 kernel) . Even when she will fail and say voodoo lag fix is disabled thats ok just get into the phone. you wil have rfs system rfs cache but ext 4 data which is what you want.

enjoy
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] chadder:
Well crud. I'm not sure what I did to this thing last night exactly but I'm thinking I bricked it. I've put this thing into download or recovery mode no less than 100 times in the past 3 months as I've toyed around with it, and I've never had problems at least getting ADB to see it to boot to recovery or download from command line. I don't know why it was taking so long to boot back up yesterday but I must have pulled the battery when it was doing something important... Dammit

EDIT: Created thread for my issues here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1142327 so as to not clutter dsexton702's thread more than I already have.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lenny hodapp:
Ok I think we need to move this topic to a different thread and not clog this one up.

Maybe here? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1142327

[Q] have I hard bricked my phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jondamn:
Has anybody compared speeds between this method and the kf2 leak? I'm nervous about trying it
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ttngu234:
I'm going to test this out. I currently get 1800s with quadrant with Black Ice, 3.1UV, OC 1.3, KF1 modem, KF1 fugu tweaks, init.d tweaks.

Not to mention, my battery life has been wonderful with this setup.

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Edit:

Received 1787 quadrant score with stock Bionix Black Ice and 3.1UV. Rebooting to apply fugu and init D tweaks now to test score. Very snappy!

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Edit #2:

After installing fugu and init.d, I got a quadrant score of 1239. Possibly because I haven't pushed the init.d folder to system or I ran quadrant too soon after boot? Waited several minutes after and got 1323.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
My all time high was almost 1900! Fugu and init.d doesn't seem too change the score much though.

Sent from my awesome SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Jerry D:
Thank you dsexton702 & RaverX3X

Applied this mod last night. Followed the OP and didn't have any problems. My phone is definitely faster with just the data EXT4. I'm Black Ice... I like that I can hear Linda go through her motions after a reboot. People are impressed with that..I have voodoo and EXT4 :)

Great work Fellas! THANKS!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ttngu234:
After pushing the init.d tweaks and OC 1.3, I am getting 1580 on quadrant.

Strange. The only other thing I did after the initial install where I received 1800 was install voodoo control app and then turned on Ext4 conversion without converting the system. Then I flashed the Fugu Tweaks, and then pushed init.d to system. Not sure what happened.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
my stock using cfq instead of deadline..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
because turning on voodoo lag fix formats the cache as ext 4 which kills ur scores
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] farwek:
Ok guys just to let you know what i did and ot worked.

1. Nandroid backup

2. Rfs converter

3. Ext4 converter

5. Nandroid restore

6. Reboot recovery

7. Disable voodoo lagfix

8. Reboot

9. Make sure data is ext4 if it is not go to step 10

10. Check ext4 conversion in voodoo control and make sure convert /system is unchecked.

11. Reboot

12. Wait for 5 mins and then speed away.

This is for people who already have bali 3.1 and have a custom rom that they do not want to setup again.

Thanks desexton and raver.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ttngu234:
Ahhh, read a post by another user so I thought this was part of the process. Very snappy though even with the lagfix. I rebooted with voodoo disabled and got 2052 with OC 1.3. Thanks!

Edit:

Ran it a few more times after waiting several minutes and consistently get 2300+ scores!

Ehhhh, disregard the ad banner.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] adobrakic:
Can you guys getting 2k+ stock quadrant scores use CF-Bench and post the results?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
its not jusrt your quad scores its also your mflops ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
1.2 ghz oc
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rolliesandoval:
Ok I just bricked this damn thing!!! I used cwm to flash the ext4 zip..and it said dont reboot untill you install rom and kernel...i didnt have none of that on my sd card..so i removed it.. put ICE rom and Bali 3.1 on my sdcard root.. came back and tried to install /choose file from sdcard nothing...no file found error... but the "update from sdcard" did work..so took out the sdcard again...renamed Ice to Update.zip...flashed then rebooted...now it wont get out of the boot up screen.. it loops endlessly~! plz help..thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
why would you ever do ANY of that!?

turn the phone off, hold down volume up and volume down then plug your phone into your computer that should enter it into download mode

use odin to flash kc1 or kd1 or even kb5 rom there are here within the forums just search
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
./facepalm
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] shotchacokov:
This setup works great on kd1. 2575 no complaints here. Now why doesn't samsung have someone following these threads?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
glad its working great on kd1 also :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rolliesandoval:
thanx dsexton!! i was scared for a bit! its working now..i have one more question how do i do the voodoo thing?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
lol

you just need to:

flash the ext4 converter

flash whatever rom you want CHECK YOUR MOUNTS BEFORE FLASHING ROM

flash the bali 3.1 kernel

then go to advanced in cwm and reboot recovery

go down to voodoo and disable system and lagfix

reboot and wait for it to boot up
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rolliesandoval:
awesome! ur the best!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] shotchacokov:
Dsexton and Raver, thank you guys for this.... The phone is insane now! I wont stop until I have kd1 @ 2700 - 2800.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
your welcome... wait for project badass we got more instore for you guys :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
anything for the community <3
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
Strange problem here.

I have root at boot, but when I open an app that requires root I lose root for everything and have to reboot to get it back. I have tried fixing permissions. I have tried to reroot using superoneclick but it hangs on waiting for device. :confused:

EDIT: Solved by reinstalling superuser
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
i would just restart the process, not sure why you would lose root unless you used a back up instead of flashing a new rom?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
+1.

Make sure you have everything on your SD card before you get a serious brick! Follow the instructions carefully, and it'll be perfect!

Sent from my awesome SGS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
thanks. I reinstalled super user and that fixed the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] silverspoon80:
always read-read-read and have the files you need WHERE you need it before flashing.

enlighten me though - why or who told you to rename the black ice rom to update.zip? just curious. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
Alright, I'm having some problems. Following directions to a T. I experienced this same problem when I flashed Black Ice with ext-4 before. When I didn't flash ext-4 before Black Ice, everything went perfect. Should my mounts be set a certain way when I flash Bali?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
black ice will only work if its the black ice kd1 the first black ice released by krylon

his newly black ice voodoo will not work with this method im not sure why but it keeps bootlooping, your not the only person so stick with frost or use the first black ice kd1
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
Thanks for clarifying this now, can you please update the OP?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dohandrew:
how do u guys take those tests with the charts testing the speed? plz and ty
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lenny hodapp:
Well I didn't know that. I'm running black ice voodoo. I get between 1700 to about 2000 stock and 2100 to 2300 oc @ 1.2
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
For some reason, I just can't get BIvoodoo to cooperate with the ext-4converter. /shrug. I just got done recooking the twframework so I have an accurate battery meter which was my only complaint.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
These scores r from black ice voodoo with only data as ext4. Just turned lagfix off and scores shot throught the roof.

Edit: also have a of of 1.1ghz
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
Applied ravers files.. im digging it!

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] silverspoon80:
i think that should be added in the OP
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Jerry D:
+1

I flashed Black Ice voodoo also with no problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
Ice Voodoo flashes fine.. second.. the reason Linda wants to keep converting is the setting in voodoo control

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Jerry D:
Thank God she does want to because I love hearing her sweet voice on reboot. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AntonX:
I just refuse to believe until someone gives a very detailed and scientific explanation why changing of the file system to a technically inferior one would significantly bump scores of some obscure Qudrant test that nobody knows how it works and what and how it actually tests. I truly think that real life performance with ext4 should be better.

Btw I noticed that some init.d tweak increases read-ahead cache for SD to 2048. This is totally unnecessary and although some silly test may show better rating, in real life there will be no benefit from it, in fact it may just slow you down and eat more battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
I have to agree with some of these questions.. I feel everyone is chasing that higher and higher quadrant.. when one of the OP members was the first to champion (im grateful for the find) ext4.. and now its being removed for a higher quad score..

this mod is smooth but only after fugu and intd... which are included in ice voodoo anway..

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] chadder:
I experienced this as well and noticed that if I only disable voodoo lagfix, the newer Black Ice will boot just fine. If I disable the /system voodoo lagfix though, then it gets stuck on the boot screen and I don't hear Linda's voice, and gotta rstart from Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
For those that are getting problems with Black Ice Voodoo, you can just flash the ROM without using the ext4 converter. Black Ice Voodoo is meant to convert it for you anyways. I followed the directions in the OP, with an exception of flashing the ext4 converter and it works beautifully for me.

The ext4 converter is only needed if you're flashing a ROM that doesn't have the conversion built into it.

Of course, I'm no expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Btw, the fugu tweaks and init.d provided in this thread be used for ANY ROMs, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
Screw the haters, what are your quadrant scores? LOL :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
CPU - arithmetic operations, XML parsing, multimedia decoding

Memory throughput

I/O - filesystem access and database operations

2D graphics

3D graphics - OpenGL single-pass and multi-pass rendering with stencil buffers

thats what it tests.. is it the end all be all no use your brain along with it..

disk caching

The answer, of course, is to minimize I/O. Many methods are available to reduce the performance mismatch between CPU and I/O. These include cache, buffering, short DASD strings, etc. IBM has suggested that the best method would be to place as much data in processor storage as possible and then retrieve the rest as quickly as possible.

Disk caching provides the easiest and most cost effective solution to this problem. Caching will reduce the amount of time spent waiting for an I/O to complete, resulting in improved on-line response time and reduced batch execution times.

Eating battery life humm.. If your phone is not accessing the sd card there for its not caching anything how is it eating your battery life?

As far as ext 4 vs rfs ext 4 is not always the best senerio. In our phones using rfs on system and cache and ext4 data offers the best preformance and speed. also preserving battery life as the phone isnt constanty writeing data to commonly a commonly used partition.

IN CLOSEING NEXT TIME USE GOOGLE..

IF YOu really wanted to know that bad THERES THIS THING CALLED THE INTERNET AND A SEARCH BAR COUGH USE IT COUGH.

hand holding done...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
yes fugu tweaks and init.d can be used on any rom some of the users here used em and this guide on kd1 stock rooted roms and are getting a nice preformance boost.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
some of the init d and fugu are included in the rom but not all of them thats why the roms are similar in performance but one edges out the other.

in short use what ever flavor rom you want and be happy with it
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
He's right tho lol.. black ice has ext converter built in lol!

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
Im using ext 4 but I am using the fugu and intd that u posted thanks!

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
LOL! Thanks? :P

My highest so far on Black Ice Voodoo was 1,885 at 1.0 GHz. I'm gonna try flashing Bionix Frost tonight, since I liked the overall ROM more and people also reported it to be slightly faster. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
just so you guys know, if all you needed for this mod was voodoo lagfix then why would i even post this?

the ext4 converter that i uploaded to this thread is needed for the mod, sure you guys might be able to get black ice voodoo working but its also converted the system as well as data and cache

my ext4 and voodoo is the mixture need to only convert data and not system and cache

HENCE why i posted this thread ;)

so if your running black ice voodoo chances are you did not do the mod correctly :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
I'm not hating here but I've read comments saying quadrant wasn't made for our phones processor so, why does it matter that quad scores can reach 2300+ what's the fuss actually about? Does anyone have any hard info on this?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] shotchacokov:
Damn Skippy!! I'm on KD1 with many tweaks along with these... I'm afraid it's going to leap out of my hands and take off like a rocket... :D

The shots below are at

1.0Ghz = 1894

1.5Ghz = 2680

1.62Ghz = 2732

I feel like i just put my street/strip car engine into my phone.:cool:

A few more little tweaks and I should be able to muster a 2800 out of it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
Frost will be much higher. For sake of the thread, I was pulling in 2k with no overclock and 2366 with 1.3 :p
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
I would beg to differ that because im using black ice voodoo and only my data is ext4. All I had to do was adjust the settings in cwm and it booted fine. When I changed the setting I heard Linda say it something about 4 minutes after about 3 it booted fine. When I checked terminal emulator it said data was ext4 and cache, system were rfs. So I don't know what I did different but it works fine
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
ok... Its like having a decent computer and getting the best possable preformance out of it with at the same time not killing it. if you wanna see the prefomrance diffrence

real world benchmark

go load up dungeon defenders and load one of the final levels with about 100 things going on at once on a stock rom or any non stock rom and see the slideshow it causes..

use the guide follow the tweaks and or just do the tweaks and what ever ext 4 u wanna do and then run it again theres actually real world diffrence.

if you dont wanna believe quad scores and mflop which do the same extact test over n over again like the same benchmark programs for pc k then

futuremark for pc anyone thats like saying why does the future mark pc bencharmk actually score better under linux and wine then sometimes under windows.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lenny hodapp:
I am also running black ice voodoo and used the extconverter before installing it and only the data is ext4.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
its not just the quad scores, the mflops dramatically rise as well

and you can see the difference in performance :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
working on a 2ghz oc :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AntonX:
Do you know how it tests it? Well.. neither do I.

Writing a comprehensive and objective test can be tricky. For example to test disk I/O more or less seriously you'd need different writing/reading scenarios using various blocks of data executed for some time to gather statistics properly. I'd say only I/O test alone should run for 5-10 minutes to give any meaningful results for disk and file system performance. I don't see it from Quadrant, it's just too quick to test file system properly.

In no way read-ahead cache would minimize I/O, it can only increase it.

Read-ahead just reads data exactly ahead in hope that the cached data will be used. If not and it's a cache miss, the data is just discarded and this extra read operation is wasted, thus essentially increasing I/O.

Now, the read-ahead cache was originally and mainly designed for real hard drives with spinning plates and heads. In this case reading ahead made a lot of sense as it was done to avoid waiting on the next read operation for the right place on the plate to reach the reading head - in CPU cycles this time is huge. SSD and flash drives don't have this problem, the seek time is virtually instantaneous. The cache may help a little in when you are reading sequentially (especially when reading app is badly written), but in any case the same data will have to be read, and without waiting for the spinning plates. I say badly written because any good app that reads a lot of data sequentially (like fiel copying routine) would do it in a separate threads and use some large buffers anyway, so no benefit from read-ahead cache here.

For random readings this cache is just plain bad on our phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
+1

Bc of the bug in baling 3.1

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fknfocused:
Thanks for the info fellas. It helped put things into perspective for me. \m/
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AntonX:
Has anybody made a real test with ext4 and RFS, at least timed full backup/restore or something like that? I haven't heard that anybody did it, if somebody did please post a link. Would be interesting to try, although I'm not sure I want to do it, don't see any reason to go back to RFS at the moment, plus it's my main and only phone and I cannot mess with it all the time.

Oh, and since when asking for some explanations was called trolling????????????? Or are you always calling "trolling" questions that you have troubles answering?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jondamn:
Could you do it without re-flashing? Just enabling/disabling lagfix to switch between all 3 ext4 and /data only?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hailthethief:
can you give directions on how you got the ext conversion to take, please?