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[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I don't think there is a way to root the new gingerbread release for the Evo4G, but that will be figured out very soon I would think.

I showed my gf the MIUI rom and she loved it, but I couldn't get it running since she did the latest sprint OTA.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
What exactly does that have to do with the EVO 3D?
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I hear that downgrading to froyo RUU works...not that I would know, I used Toast's method over a year ago.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
Absolutely nothing. It was a pretty random comment.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Hey Debbie downer, you are saying that this phone will not be unlocked ? Correct?

1. What drives you to troll all over xda DEVELOPERS ?

2. That's the purpose of this site, to unlock and modify our outrageously priced phones that we OWN

3. Peter Chou of HTC (THIS IS THE CEO) promised an unlock for us

4. This phone WILL be unlocked for your information, have some faith in the amazing and hard working devs

Sent from a dual core beast 3VO. Do this on your iFail 4 :D
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Someone stated earlier that if the 3vo isn't unlocked in the next 30 days, they would go over to the evo4g. I was just saying their is no current root method for the gingerbread evo4g, but hopefully in 30 days there will be.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Don't feed the trolls and give them the attention they are desperately seeking. Just ignore them and they will eventually get bored and go troll somewhere else.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Agreed

Sent from a dual core beast 3VO. Do this on your iFail 4 :D
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
The developers here are amazing at what they do...but without a stroke of luck on a cosmic scale, a "leak" or HTC unlocking it for us all of the faith in the world won't help...a Cray super computer couldn't help, even if they still made fast supercomputers....a M1-Abrams tank couldn't help...$240 of chocolate pudding couldn't help....nothing but one of those three things.
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
The only thing holding me back from the 3d is the locked bootloader. Looks like the photon will be my next upgrade
[HTC EVO 3D] Alanmw86:
I will so return all 3 of my EVO 3D's if they don't unlock it before 30 days if thats there stupid policy.

hopefully that person had no f'ing idea what day it even is.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotmoobs:
clap clap clap
[HTC EVO 3D] gotmoobs:
Troll? I have the phone, I switched from a droid 2 from verizon for 5 years for it, and I had the droid the first day it came out, and I waited patiently for the OG droid to root, as well as the droid 2. So what are you talking about. I think its retarded to think, a huge company will unlock the bootloader in 28 more days, and people who will return the phone as amazing as it is, because they have to wait. thats trolling?
[HTC EVO 3D] kessomatt:
You know, Barry and levon would beg to differ.
[HTC EVO 3D] Topgun966:
Hey Guys I got a response from HTC. Kinda generic,

"

Thank you for your response.

HTC has received overwhelming customer feedback about the locking of bootloaders on our phones and we are happy that our decision to not lock the bootloaders on our phones, has been met with such enthusiasm.

At this time we currently don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via through our official website and official social media outlets. The bootloaders will become unlocked through an update. Also we currently don’t have information regarding which phones will be unlocked; Keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked.

Dan, we do apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause.

"

I guess take that for what it is
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
At least we are getting them to notice. we just have to make sure we keep the emails and Facebook posts going strong until this happens, no matter what they say.
[HTC EVO 3D] jadoe05:
The company doesn't know proper grammar?
[HTC EVO 3D] DataDork:
it appears someone created a generic response in which at some point was edited for our phones to reply back to all these 3VO emails. Its apparent that nobody proof read the edited generic response.. LAME
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
youd be sorprised how bad gramer can be mate!
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I wouldn't be surprised if HTC just wanted to sit back for a few weeks just to see if xda devs can break their codes. Then release the bootloader.
[HTC EVO 3D] ballr4lyf:
LMAO! I see wut u did thur!!
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I agree there probably kickin back with a cold one and laughing if they can't crack it then HTC will feel happy :D Hope they get off there butts and hold up on there end of the deal.

Would suck ass if they just made a statment like what the CEO said to get us all excited to buy there new product just for the money. Doubt they are that crooked.

Hopefully soon they will do something I just wrote them about the bug issues we are all having and the boot loader thing. Hoping I get a response soon if I don't get my answer in the first email Ill have alot more questions for them.
[HTC EVO 3D] idaho4045:
see my biggiest problem with these generic email responses are...is if they are being so over whelmed with emails and such about it.. why not release the info they are "emailing" to ppl publicly... why are they sitting there being silent... this is another reason why i dont believe a damn one of these "email posts" that everyone is posting..there are far to many trolls online to believe every "email" post.. and none of them have ever been the exact same answer so how are they so generic?... its getting to the point now where i honestly think they are just going to dodge the problem.. cuz they have done nothing publicly to address anything... i just dont think any of this makes any sense at all.. i dont see them replying to every email about it over and over and over again when they could simply announce something publicly once and be done with it...

is it just me?... does anyone else feel what im sayin here..
[HTC EVO 3D] Street_Knowledge:
If anyone get the generic "what would warranty be if a ROM cause damage?" email, PLEASE refer them to this Magnuson Moss Warranty Act as someone who almost took a car dealership to court over not wanting to honor warranties on a modified vehicle, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if they decide not to honor the warranty, it is the LAW that they must be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what YOU DID caused the malfunction or failure. If they cannot prove it, they HAVE to honor the warranty.
[HTC EVO 3D] los1223:
How do u know they aren't going to come through on their promise? I think it would do more damage to their image and reputation to lie about this than to just be open and say no. Give them a chance...
[HTC EVO 3D] Street_Knowledge:
I also reported them to engadget, boy genius report and gizmodo, I encourage the rest of you to do the same.
[HTC EVO 3D] jrmatics:
I did get the 3D already but I definitely will return it and wait for for the photon. We are the minority, but hopefully HTC will wake up. I'll take my little money elsewhere, but united our little money adds up.
[HTC EVO 3D] heathmcabee:
Ya, I heard that she said that he said that her aunt said bootloaders are forever locked and HTC just wants to piss people off. Argh
[HTC EVO 3D] OneStepAhead:
You must of been playing with the Shift by mistake.
[HTC EVO 3D] jrmatics:
I think ur absolutely right
[HTC EVO 3D] HammDroid:
I know some people have already stated that HTC is going to unlock the 3VO bootloader, but just thought I'd share the email they sent me back yesterday.

They responded to my question about the screen material as well, being Gorilla Glass, though not very well.

Here's their response (and a screenshot of the email here > http://tinypic.com/r/rc4lxx/7):
[HTC EVO 3D] rkeen:
The guys in development are getting closer. It seems someone was able to take an hboot out of a signed file and flash it successfully. If this is true, then root won't be far off. Just a heads up. I've seen these developers work wonders.
[HTC EVO 3D] HammDroid:
So here's a question:

To wait for HTC to unlock it for us, or to go ahead should someone get it done before then...? What does everyone think about the pro's & con's of going with an HTC unlocked bootloader or 3rd party method?

While there is of course no guarantee, I am very confident someone will get it unlocked, regardless of HTC's stance. Its good to know that HTC is going to do it though, even if someone else does.
[HTC EVO 3D] terr74:
I just do not think it matters to me. It was a toss up for me between the EVO 3D and the sgsII to begin with. 3D is cool and I do not see NFC becoming a big thing for at least a year. Flip side is I am starting to see CC companies advertising NFC payment options and it may just take off pretty big pretty fast if the banks get on board. At the end of the day I do not think (as I stated in another thread) this is going to work out in a way I am ok with. I am leaning further and further towards returning it and waiting for the Galaxy SII. I think the EVO is a great phone I am just unsure of the business practices of HTC. Even when the devs crack it I just do not think HTC deserves my money.
[HTC EVO 3D] nugzo:
What business practices are you speaking of? HTC is a very respected company.
[HTC EVO 3D] westicle:
Lol, fool.
[HTC EVO 3D] I Am Marino:
I fully think the bootloader will be unlocked for you 3D owners, just personally, not in the next 20-30 days.

They'll sell enough even if a few hundred of you return the phone.

I'm guessing by the end of the summer, early fall.
[HTC EVO 3D] fester225:
Awesome reference to "the state " with chocolate pudding comment lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
Tested and works (thanks jnl) I'm posting a link to CG61.img for easy loading extracted from 1FF-olympus_hktw-userdebug-2.3.4-4.5.2A-5_OLH-3-110614-test-keys-Retail-05.sbf

Download moto-fastboot for your os from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1138092

CG61.img Link - MD5 = 9151fca5183b85953d7afed83364802a

https://www.rapidshare.com/files/4119742271/CG61.img

Steps I followed on OSX:

Download CG61.img (placed in same directory as moto-fastboot)

Place your device in fastboot mode via the volume-down then volume-up procedure and verify it exists with ./moto-fastboot devices

./moto-fastboot flash webtop CG61.img

./moto-fastboot reboot

You might have to reboot the device 2X after this is complete before the webtop option shows up when docked

----=== NO NEED TO FOLLOW THE BELOW STEPS UNLESS YOU EXTRACT FROM THE SBF ===----

Below is from JNL:

Since I have the lapdock and did not want to revert to Froyo, I thought I'd give a more detailed explanation than the hint I worked from to re-enable webtop (with firefox 4.0.1!):

Download the leaked HK/TW sbf file and the 'sbf_flash' for linux (I did this under 32-bit ubuntu).

use sbf_flash -x 1FF-olympus_hktw...sbf

This will extract a collection of .img files.

Place your device in fastboot mode via the volume-down then volume-up procedure and verify it exists with:

sudo ./moto-fastboot32 devices

Then:

sudo ./moto-fastboot32 flash webtop CG61.img

This will run a 3-step flashing process. Once completed, do:

sudo ./moto-fastboot32 reboot

Voila. Webtop works and actually seems faster.

Hope this helps.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] s1mpd1ddy:
actually, just to clarify... is that in cmd on windows you're talking about? Where do we put the CG61.img?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
I ran this from OSX using the commands I listed jnl ran it from 32-bit ubuntu it looks like via the commands he posted

I placed the image in the same directory as moto-fastboot
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sifon187:
Looking at the commands, it is for Linux. Get a Ubuntu LiveCD, very useful tool to have around.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
I am guessing this should work in Windows as well I am currently installing Windows 7 under VMware Fusion on my mac to confirm.

confirmed I could run this from Windows and did not get any errors back so performing this via the windows moto-fastboot should work as expected
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
Updated CG61.img link from DropBox to RapidShare due to DropBox shutting the link down due to excessive downloads (according to them)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
So, I did the 1st step and nothing happened.

Do I have to do the 2nd step? If yes, where I find "sbf_linux" and "1FF-olympus_hktw...sbf"?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
You only need to follow the first section (Download the img file and download moto-fastboot for your os)

Are you saying that after you download the img and run moto-fastboot devices you do not see your device listed?

Can you post exactly whats happening when you run moto-fastboot devices then try to load the image on your device via moto-fastboot flash webtop CG61.img (make sure CG61.img is in your moto-fastboot directory)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
So, I did everything again, and it´s still doesnt working.

No one errors appears. But when a plug phone on lapdock, doenst show the webtop´s option. when I execute them, appears an error: "This app Webtop.... has stopped unexpctedly..."

My log:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
Are you running the HKTW 2.3.4 image? ( Image from the following thread http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15020775&postcount=2 )
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
Yes! I do!

It isnt correct?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
Hmm yes that is correct - Can you tell me what OS you are using? maybe try another USB port I will do an md5 checksum on the file and post it maybe a bad download?

MD5 = 9151fca5183b85953d7afed83364802a
[Atrix 4G Android Development] dicksteele:
Did everything correct... Pretty damn sure. Phone won't even power up now.

Pull battery, plug back in usb cable, get green light, it goes out. Got it to fire up once with no sim.

F*ck !

EDIT: Dumb ass. Don't know how battery drained like a MF. Powered up in wall jack.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
So, I´m using Windows 7 32.

I tried another port, tried new flash and nothing.. I´still having the same error when I execute webtop.

:/
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
Hmm I have not been able to duplicate this issue - Can you confirm the MD5 checksum? Has anyone else seen this issue with Windows 7 and trying to flash this?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neotekz:
does this fix multimedia dock too? i dont get clock option when my phone is on the dock.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
So, I tried on Ubuntu and doenst change anything. I still havent the webdock.

I have the clock issue too. When I plug on lapdock, the clock doenst fit on horizontal position.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] xabierd:
Does this work with hdmi cable without any dock?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
No this requires the Media Dock or the Laptop dock in order to work
[Atrix 4G Android Development] pederb:
Any chance to get the Debian 0.2.5 Webtop back?

Cheers
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NYG-SBXLII:
Is it possible to use this method with one of the other CGs from the 2.3.4 sbf to restore Entertainment Center?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] neotekz:
just flashed and it restored clock mode with HD dock but the screen is in vertical mode. webtop works find like before. entertainment center still force close
[Atrix 4G Android Development] mburlingame:
Did you get this working? What files did you use to flash 2.3.4 (ZIP or img) I have been able to make this work with out issue from OSX, Debian, Windows - Sucks I can not duplicate your issue to try to help out.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rscozz:
Does it only work with docking??? Weptop option doesnt show on my Atrix with docking after plugged the HDMI cable
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brunnogama:
So, I didnt get this workig yet. I used IMG file, with this commands:

sudo ./moto-fastboot flash boot atrix-2.3.4-hktw-boot.img

sudo ./moto-fastboot flash system atrix-2.3.4-hktw-system.img

sudo ./moto-fastboot -w

sudo ./moto-fastboot reboot

Well, I´m thinking wait until the official OTA. Anyway, really thanx for this work and attention!!!!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] JQE:
OK i am having similiar issue as everyone else. Webtop Works in dock. Entertainment centre force closes and clock is verticle instead of horizontal. I also tried flashing the osh.img from tenfars new image thread, but that didn't work. Webtop opened but i couldn't use the mouse, Clock was verticle and entertainment centre force closed. Just some extra info to add to the bundle.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joyo22:
I can't use the mouse either in Lapdock. It won't show the status bar on top, though! Any solution?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] briggie108:
I seem to be getting an error when I try to flash this. It says

load_file: could not allocate 805177344 bytes

error: can not load 'CG61.img'

Right after I do the command. "moto-fastboot flash webtop CG61.img"
[Atrix 4G Android Development] joyo22:
It's good to konw new webtop has fullscreen in-phone apps. That helps a lot with games, for instance. Firefox 4 seems pretty faster as well.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sssp:
Did you ever solve your problem? I am having the same issue.

edit: NM, got it working. I used Navalynt's Mod with webtop fix first, it didn't work. Then I flashed this img file using moto-fastboot, it's working now
[Atrix 4G Android Development] kylegeisler:
when following these instructions i receive the following error at the command prompt.

on my device i see the error in red

any thoughts or sugggestions?

the md5 on the CG61.img is correct.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Kaaji1359:
Bump. Getting same error as above.

Or is there a fix to this already that I have not seen? I've been at this HDMI thing for hours.

I originally tried http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1144119&page=10 but was pointed to this thread.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Kaaji1359:
Bump. Same issue. Any suggestions?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] AshDeezy:
same error as everyone else. really need webtop working here...
[HTC Sensation] npoc:
I just tried to make the switch from at&t to t-mobile. I had my sensation for about a week, and just returned it this morning.

Reasons I loved the sensation.

Decent battery life *(not as great as everyone made me expect.

Awesome Camera, especially outside- I really could see myself using this phone as a replacement for a cheap point and shoot.

The hardware was pretty much all around fantastic. Great feel in hand. A ton thinner than the evo 3d, especially around the edges. This phone has such a nice shape that it almost gets lost in my pocket. I actually found myself grabbing my pocket to make sure it hadn't fallen out.

The wifi-calling was a great value add.

The screen was fantastic. My next phone will have to have a qhd or better display (no sgsII for me). Say what you want about contrast ratios, but I rarely use my phone outside. Having the extra pixels however was absolutely awesome for browsing the web. The extra pixels also made living without a hardware keyboard a little bit easier to bare *(when in portrait mode).

The unlock page that came with sense 3.0. Other than that sense just seemed to get in my way.

FM radio. I'm the guy who wants to watch and listen to the tv-s at the gym.

Why I just couldn't risk spending 2 years with it.

I had no reception at my house or work on t-mo. This is really the biggest reason why I had to return my phone.

Because of the above the cell radio was draining the battery attempting to connect to the networks. I really don't want to spend two years having to remember to turn off the cell radio every time I get home.

T-mobile support was an exercise in frustration to deal with.

Will I still even get 3g/4g service in 2 years? This is debatable. AT&T will have to repurpose some of T-mo's spectrum from somewhere.

The built-in picasa upload is broken *(I use this all the time).

No way to jump to the galery app when in camera mode. This seems like a really obvious omission.

The speakephone volume over wifi calling really shouldn't be considered a speakerphone at all. I couldn't test speakerphone over t-mo because I never had reception when I wanted to make a call.

There was no setting to auto disable the cell radio when connected over wi-fi and wi-fi calling was enabled. I admit this is a nit-pick, but it really would have been nice.

I counted at least 3 backup apps all of which were trying to send my contacts to different parts of the world. Why do I need to backup any of my contacts? For me everything is in google, that's why I want an android phone. The killer part about this is that these apps will suck your battery dry.

Currently no way to remove all the crap-ware that t-mo stuffs it's phones with. There is a lot of it. I bet that is why there is so much discussion about the a performance problem between the sensation and the evo 3d screen rotate speed.

No NFC. Not really a deal-breaker, but it is disappointing.

So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.

--troll away!--
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
I think you accidentally a conjunction in there
[HTC Sensation] BonesRed:
Lulz irony abounds, he missed a conjunction and you omitted a word from your sentence, pointing out his omitted conjunction @_@.

- Also to the OP: A bunch of these problems are fixable with root, also there is a way to go to the gallery from the stock camera app... and even if there wasn't why wouldn't you just DL a camera app from market that would allow you to do what you wanted?

- Turn off the other contacts backup services... I did

- Why wouldn't you have 4g in 2 years? 4G will actually be much faster in two years and will be approaching "actual" 4G speeds.

- You couldnt do a one click disable of the cell radio while on wifi and wifi calling was enabled because that happens automatically.

- Speakerphone was too low on wifi calling? Wow, that's probably fixable as well.

- And if you have a smart phone YOU will need to learn how to manage its battery life. The Sensation actually does have preeettty good battery life for a smartphone.

Cheers, good luck on ATT we'll all probably be there next year anyway.
[HTC Sensation] dellybelly:
Thats def not a good experience; as you say it sounds mostly coverage related which is the case for most carriers. Tmo has always been good to me where ive lived (4g here where i work and around my home).

Every phone/network won't work for everyone. Although the NFC is something that initially gave me pause, but I really don't see that being something i won't be able to live without in just 2 years; it's barely rolled out; not to mention text transactions and CC soda machines are also on the rise.

I am personally a little annoyed with how sense handles (or doesn't) the picasa gallery (Why can't i make a slide show with my picasa stuff).

Enjoy your G1 even with cyanogen; not sure I could go back THAT far even if I had crappy service :)

I am missing my MIUI though, still running my N1 with MIUI latest and it's been getting amazingly robust the past few updates (5 way unlock specifically).
[HTC Sensation] B3astofthe3ast:
I believe the Cell Radios turn off when you activate WiFi calling. And I have a way to get to the gallery from my camera app...

A G1 though?! I'd rather take all the cons you listed than go all the way back to that poor thing, on EDGE no less. G1 was awesome back in the day, but now you're just torturing the poor thing.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
Unless you buy an unlocked manufacturer phone from overseas your stuck with carrier bloatware and hardware/software changes. That or one of the Nexus series. And your only choice for NFC right now is Nexus. So I think we've found your next phone.
[HTC Sensation] npoc:
I'm pretty sure i had to manually disable the cell radios if I wanted them off when on wi-fi. It did however route my calls over wi-fi automatically. It did not automatically turn off my cell radio when wi-fi calling was enabled. When I was at work or at home, the power graph was pretty ugly with the cell radios on.