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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mudsloth:
I actually chose to install the OTA because, after a year of keeping my Eris afloat with ROM updates on a weekly basis, I thought I was ready to have my phone be officially supported and to get a break from constant tweaking. I made a bad decision. :(

I'm ready to not constantly be installing updated ROMs, but all the bloatware on my phone annoys the crap out of me and there are just certain things I want to do that can't be done with stock. Looks like I just need to be extra patient now and hope somebody is able to get root on the 2.3.3 OTA soon.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] isdnmatt:
You need to have some way of gaining root (even temp root) to be able to downgrade, even to an official RUU like was posted.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sk0t:
Somehow I missed the quoting of me. That said, I'm aware now. You can downgrade if you're S-OFF, but not if you're S-ON.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
Forcefed GB

Does any one know if the current root method will work on the phone before activation or while in airplane mode?

If, when I get my DInc2 it has not been forcefed the GB update, I will charge the battery, start the unit, and prepair to yank the battery incase of forcefeeding from Vomitrizen.

If I can get to the setting to run airplane mode or de-select "Data Enabled",

I will try to achieve S-off before the GB update sticks it to me.

Thanks for any help...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sylent101:
Sad, mine came in the mail today with 2.3.3 :( I love this phone but I can't stand sense.

So you guys are basically saying that the previous temp root has been patched with this update correct?

So basically all we need is another root exploit to get things rolling again?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
do tell

Do you mind exposing the bastards that forcefed you GB?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sylent101:
Its freaking false advertisement ..its says the phone ships with froyo on the website not gingerbread..lol this sucks so bad, I'm thinking of going to the tbolt but it looks like a tank.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PaintDrinkingPete:
n

The Thunderbolt is a tank compared to the dinc, but I've come to the point where the large screen has definitely grown on me... The development community for the Thunderbolt is HUGE as well.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] stjake:
I got tired of Sense so I switched to Launcherpro which is my favorite with Launcher 7 in second. I was told I could use an XTC Clip to help somehow remove the lock on the bootloader but I don't want to pay money to root. When I do find a way to root I'm going to CM7. How stable is CM7?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] the_tack:
I ran CM7 all last week. It was very stable to me. I got up to nightly 6 before switching to RMK's rooted GB.

I switched because I must have GSM working flawlessly for all functions due to frequent travel. CM7 requires you to put in APN's for the network, and I am not into that. I say if you are on CDMA most of the time, then CM7 is great.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mykenyc:
Has anyone tried a GoldCard method to downgrading?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] stjake:
Does the XTC Clip work with the DI2? Is there another way to make a GoldCard without an XTC Clip?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kyrumo71:
I just got the DINC Duece from BB it had 2.2 when I left the store and 2.3 when I got home, make sure you guys disable auto updates or its gonna update, it didn't even ask me
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cckeeler:
I'm looking for some advice. I am due to receive an incredible 2 tomorrow, as a replacement for my fascinate. Assuming it doesn't come with the update already on it, what is the best way of preventing it from updating? Would I need to immediately root, flash recovery, and flash a rom? Any advice would be appreciate. If I can avoid being stuck I would like to.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bucwylde23:
I'd image if you disable data then it won't be able to download, and allowing you to root first and flash a ROM.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nsomnia911:
Just received DI2 in the mail... it was brand new and already had android 2.3.3 on it.... now what?????
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jhitesma:
May not matter. My friend just got an inc2 as a replacement for his fascinate and it came with 2.3.3 pre-installed. It arrived last Thursday.

I had warned him not to turn it on since he wanted to root...but he had already turned it on and started playing with it when he got my warning.

Even so he never saw any messages about updates or anything that would indicate it was updating and he only had it on a few minutes. So I'm pretty sure it shipped with 2.3.3 pre-installed even though it seems unlikely that they would have been shipping them with it pre-installed that quickly...they probably had to ship his phone before the OTA hit based on when he received it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chardie26:
Dear GB update thanks for messing up my root I hate you!! Now I have to wait for a root for 2.3.3 which may never happen now I am going to have to buy an XTC clip.

Sincerely Upset INC2 user
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] stjake:
There has to be a root for 2.3, people found a way around the locked bootloader before and Nexus S is rooted and it comes with 2.3 so there will eventually be a root for 2.3. Does anyone know what the AlphaRev X team is up to? Have they been working on something?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sylent101:
The nexus s isn't really relevant because that phone was meant to be rooted, it's a developer phone. The incredible will be more of challenge because HTC locked it down unfortunately. I haven't seen any updates from the alpha team either..but I hope they're hard at work! Lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nsomnia911:
I dont understand... if its your phone and you pay for it. and you run the risk of bricking it.. cant you just request a program from htc to root it? I mean they know ppl do it.. do they have something to lose? why not just sell rooting programs and make extra money?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mudsloth:
That makes perfect sense, but phone manufacturers have historically tried to protect themselves. They didn't want to have users complaining about bricked phones and blaming them for it. Also, they get to force people into their unique user experience (Sense, Motoblur, etc.) so that they differentiate themselves from the crowd.

The good news is that HTC has promised to release future phones with unlocked bootloaders because they actually listened to developer outcry. The bad news is that won't be happening to the DInc2 any time soon, if at all. I believe the first phone to be released that adheres to that promise will be the Sensation in September or thereabouts.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sk0t:
The other part of it is the carriers. Most of us buy subsidized phones, which means we get them cheaper, which also means the carrier wants more control over them. They don't like it when we root our phones, take control of them, and remove money making schemes like the VCast crap (as an example).

The carriers are probably the bigger reason why HTC locks them.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mudsloth:
Very good point. And that makes HTC's promise for unlocked in the future even more impressive because they're going against the carriers. Though, I suppose we shouldn't hold our breath until we actually see the phones arriving unlocked out of the gate.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
Yeah, but what I don't get is if we paid an unsubsidized price why can't we do whatever we want with the device?

I'm fine with a locked phone, but when they add in so much bloat that can't be removed, that's when I get pissed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] stjake:
I think Verizon is the worst of all the carriers. Too much bloatware and HTC never mentioned anything about the DI2 or the TB because of Verizon. I loved service but I hate what Verizon does to my phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
I just got an Inc2 today. Right now it has the GB update downloaded, and when I turn it on it tries to install it. Is there any thing I can do at this point, or am I SOL?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
Root it, and manually install the update with clockwork.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
Yeah, but how? I can't get into the bootloader, and simply turning on the phone triggers the update process. Is there a way to interrupt/cancel the process?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
Disable wifi and the mobile network.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
No, you don't understand. It's already downloaded, and literally *powering on the phone* triggers the upgrade. I do not boot into Android first, I am not presented with any kind of menu. It's just an unfortunate little progress bar with some text saying it's upgrading my phone. That's it. At this point, I doubt I can do anything, but I figured it's worth asking about.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
Oh, you mean it doesn't prompt you to install it, it just starts the process?? I haven't had experience with how the OTA acts.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
I guess I didn't press the Vol Down key hard enough the first time, because I was able to get into HBOOT on a random second try. Any idea where to go from here?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
See if you can run AlphaRevx from HBOOT.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
From HBOOT, I went into Recovery, pressed Vol Up + Power, and wiped both data and cache. After that, I rebooted, and the update no longer presented itself. After getting through the setup screens, I was able to use AlphaRevX to root. Woo hoo!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
Good to hear, now install a debloated ROM :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
Any suggestions on a ROM? I'm coming from CM7.1-RC1 on an OG Droid, so I wouldn't mind something that's been de-Sensed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sk0t:
Well, you could run CM7 here.. OMFGB is pretty nice too.. If you want to stay relatively stock, RMK's Gingersense is based on OTA, just debloated.. Great fallback ROM if nothing else (at least it is for me).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] AmbientBlu:
I couldn't agree more. I have a rooted Eris (can't believe it's still kickin'!) but am due for an upgrade in 2 days. I was seriously considering the DInc2 and was elated to learn it had been unlocked because when I played with it in the store, I was horrified by how much bloatware was on that thing! I love being able to load custom ROMs, but my true reasoning for rooting to begin with was that I wanted to have full control over what was on my phone.

With the new OTA though, I worry that the phone will come to me with GB already installed and not being able to root and remove the bloat might actually be a deal breaker for me. I may just wait and see what happens when (IF) the unlocked phones start shipping later in the year - my Eris, while certainly buggy, should survive the summer.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
It was my understand that CM7 isn't really all that stable on the Inc2 yet, is that not correct?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sk0t:
Honestly, I don't know. I don't run it, as I usually run Gingersense or OMFGB. I've heard it's gotten better though.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcase:
It is VERY stable, and is my daily driver. I don't tolerate unstable roms so yeah. Stable.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] spartan018:
Are you running the beta or a nightly? And if a nightly, which one?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Kaze105:
Just to confirm, if the phone comes with 2.3.3, you cannot root it? (new to inc2)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
GB poopgrade

With the Vomitrizen Poopgrade of GB you might only be able to use the hardware method (xtc clip).

The software method (AlphaRevX) works for the Froyo OS, (For Now)????

After all the whinning that went on with the .05% of first group of DInc 2 owners, It would not suprise me if the team just left the sceene for a happier group.

But October is a little ways out. I might give MITTY a shot once I get my hands on DInc 2.

Oh yea force feed me a muoth full of that Vomitrizen Bloat will ya!

I might just spit it back in the face of HTC for going along with this shady deal...

And with that new teared data condom, they can stick it to ya for using more data that most of that bloat consumes, weather you want it or not..

Vomitrizin just want's the avarage user to make up the loss, from takin a bite out of that nasty Apple, so they are stikin us with the worm.

And that MutoRolla me over and stik it again, krap for hardware is going for "Buy one and get stuck with another one".

I smell a class action for racketeering if you ask me..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] micdawg12:
Thanks for killing the thread. Lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
I would love if my **** was rooted right now. It's frustrating :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dreamcaster012:
My fiance is having some serious issues. Her DInc2 came with Gingerbread (2.3.3) -- the volume key frequently defaults to media rather than ringtone, her clock is missing from the phone completely (its viewable in installed programs but search doesn't find it, nor can it be seen in the app drawer), and it frequently "flips out" for instance when you click it, it'll randomly click other buttons and not perform the action.

I wanted to root it for her and just install CM7 or even MIUI but it doesn't seem like that is currently an option on Gingerbread. I guess I'll wait like the rest! I had an OG Droid but switched to Windows Phone 7 because I was tired of reading about phones with bloatware, locked bootloaders, and the risk of bricking phones when rooting them because of the locked bootloaders. WP7 is quite nice IMO but I do miss Android as well. At least I can get my fix with her Inc2!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cabbie12:
Wow it seems that Jcase has become quite the developer. Been a while since the days of trying to root the 2.1 leak for the eris. Which brings me to the point of this post. I remember with the eris we were waiting for a unlocked bootloader or something along that line to acheive root. I've been away for a while so I'm kinda foggy on the details. It was looking impossible after months of many failed attempts but all of a sudden wag3slav3 posts this simple little script that did the impossible. As I said I have been away from the root game for quite awhile but my point is would it be worth a shot to look that direction for a Inc2 root method?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=724741
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] shoman24v:
I'm just wondering if it's worth my time to use a clip or wait? It would be nice to get some info on whether 2.3 is actively being worked on or not for the Incredible 2. Considering the EVO 4G has also been patched on its 2.3 OTA it makes me wonder how long, if ever will the Incredible 2 2.3 device be rooted?

Basically, all development for this device are for the people who were early adopters or lucky enough to still find a 2.2 device. Considering now every phone comes with 2.3, the incredible 2 user base will be getting bigger, but the development aspect are for only those few who have had 2.2 or a clip.

I don't know the processes in trying to gain root, but the EVO 3D and Sensation are both newer phones with a more complex system than our phones so why was it so easy to root those?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nocode99:
Unrevoked and Alpharevx have teamed up so I'm hoping they'll be working on the 2.3 DInc2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Whoareyou:
We should really have people working hard at this, because the inc2 is starting to ship with the 2.3.3 update whether we want it or not...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bevelmatt:
... this is true. Just got the amazing Costco deal ($29 Upgrade price) and it came preloaded with GB. And with the deals continuing on this phone, and the release of a silver version soon... I see a TON of Inc2's shipping with GB in the near future... it seems like just a matter of time before 1 of the TONS of Inc2 owners out there cracks this thang and saves us all!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xmguy:
Yep. Mine came new from Asurian with 2.3.3. I've never been so unhappy to get a new SW before. I just hope GB gets rooted and S-off SOON!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JSmoove3g4:
i wake up everyday hoping to see that someone has rooted this thing and to my everyday surprise no one has this sucks i almost activated my inc1 just to be able to flash something...im having serious withdrawals from this lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
DInc 2 Silver

I hope that the Silver phone does not come with some kind of XTC Clip blocking.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] projectmayhem:
Mine came with 2.3.3 from Asurion as well. Almost makes me wish I could revive my broken DInc 1. Yes, the stock with all of VZW's crApps is this bad.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mastaworm:
Damn, I just got my used one in the mail and it has 2.3.3 also :(. Still no word on a downgrade it seems.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] realsol:
I paid only $0.01 through amazonwireless.com for my upgrade but it came with 2.3.3. I returned my original one I got through verizon since it was $119 for the upgrade, but it car with 2.2. that sucks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Hunkules:
I just got mine today and love the phone, but I hate not having complete control over it. Only other android phone I've had was a Droid... I was an early adopter and there was almost zero bloatware when it was released. The shear amount of bloatware on the Inc2 makes me sick. I can't wait to trim the fat
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thaJack:
My original Droid had no bloat at all.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rachet:
So coming from an older Droid phone (the Eris in fact) I'm incredibly impressed with the speed and performance of this phone. My Eris did become better when I rooted it and flashed a better "bloat-free" ROM, However, I will say the Dinc2 is still faster bloatware and all.

I have been looking on the forums and understand in its current version (GB), Root is not possible, but AlphaRevX seems to be making head way. My confusion comes in with these two links... the first is the XDA Link found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160511

and then the link within the link:

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary

that second link is the process for getting S-Off on our device and without specifically clarifying (from what I can tell) which OS (either Froyo or GB). There is a "Common Problems/Questions" section that provides a zipped file for root.

My questions;

Does this work for the gingerbread version of the Dinc2?

has anyone tried it?

how would you apply the file in question if it did work? (I'm thinking you copy it over to your device and do the volume up + Power on boot?)

Thoughts?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nocode99:
It won't work on 2.3.3. When the time comes, you need to download the alpharevx utility onto your computer and run it from there. You need to enable usb-debugging and put your phone into USB fastboot. Then run the utility and it will give you a serial # which you copy/paste onto Alpha's page for the beta key. Again - this won't work on 2.3.3.

I agree that they're unclear about it on their site, but I'm not gonna bother them about that. Just waiting patiently...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rachet:
Thank you Nocode. I half expected a rant of flames for asking a fairly controversial, and somewhat provocative, post. I appreciate you explaining the process to me.

I surf the forums all the time, but I've never owned a device that has required all of this before.

It's why I hang-out here, to learn and understand and not feel completely dumbfounded...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kameleongt:
I just picked this up as a coming back from ios phone to hold me over til gs2 or bionic comes and it came preinstalled 2.3 totally through me off and has me on a super bloated Rom. Might go back to ios unless I can find another phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nocode99:
I don't like bloatware either, but this phone still runs very snappy with them. Battery life is great too actually. I understand the hate on bloatware, but it really hasn't bothered me on this phone. I'd still like to get it off, but it wouldn't be the reason why I'd get a different phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] diesel43078:
I've found that mine runs pretty well with the bloatware but as with everyone else on this board, I'm not satisfied with "pretty good" lol. Can't wait till I can root and get this phones full potential unlocked. Just have to play the waiting game like everyone else. I am quite satisfied with the battery life though. Much better than my fascinate or og inc was.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gordy_2001:
Any updates on a root for 2.3.3?

I can't believe one hasn't come out. Anyone try to down grade to original froyo and root?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ericsignals:
Nope and nope....I hate the waiting game....

Sent from my ADR6350
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] RegnierD:
I've got a DInc 2 coming in the mail in the mail on probably Wednesday, and I'm gonna see what I can play around with when I get it. I'm not expecting anything to work, but I've read a lot of interesting things over in the Droid 3 Dev section when I was potentially getting one of those. If I can miraculously pull something out, I'll be sure to let everyone know.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Humanio:
Best of luck. :) I'm contemplating trading my current phone for one running 2.2, or finding someone in the bay area with an XTC Clip. Make it happen!

-humanio
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Adreneline420:
Disabling auto update?

I'm s-off with alpharevx & using the incredibly debloated rom. Today I got a notification for automatic update. I was able to reschedule it but only for 5 days. Any way to get around this? Maybe other roms have it disabled? Quick response greatly appreciated!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PapaDocta:
new revolutionary version is out and should work with all GB builds but still fails after booting into fastboot :(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] RegnierD:
Download v0.4pre2 from their site. It supports the DInc2 now. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PapaDocta:
true the pre2 worked fine
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Benblanko81:
The day is here.

I can finally stop checking this thread for root updates. Apha rev is the shiznit.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] diesel43078:
So what's the word? Do we have verification of this?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Conrthomas:
Revolutionary worked great for me, and I was running 2.3.3 on my Incredible 2. Verified it works.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] diesel43078:
Definately verified. Just did it for myself. Worked first time with 2.3.3, no issues.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] finitybeyond:
The new Revolutionary supports the Incredible 2 with the 2.3.3 OTA.

Mods, please un-sticky this thread as it no longer applies.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cooksalot:
Oh! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! I have to get a replacement phone for my Incredible and was worried that I may not be able to root the new phone. I am SOOOO happy that I don't' have to worry about it. :D:D:D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] slicknick27:
Well that's great news...considering that I woke up to find that my Inc2 updated to 2.3 this morning :eek:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] camroidv27:
Worked on my DInc2 that already had the Gingerbread update. Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] doncaruana:
I apologize for being dumb...but just what rom is it that now works? Can someone post a link or something?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mudsloth:
This thread should really no longer be stickied since it's inaccurate info in the title.

Any ROM will work, the issue is that you need to root and get S-OFF before you can flash a ROM. You'll want this thread for instructions: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1219246
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GretoVerno:
I don't mean to be ignorant my fellow android brothers. But with respect to the bali rom....what do these terms mean?.... Thank You
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
capped FPS (frames per second)

uncapped FPS

and undervolted.

I would try the latest 1.8.7 (may just be on rootzwiki) and try the uncapped... if it does not play well, the capped one. I do not undervolt.