yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Guessing? We won't know until it is in the Sprint playbook. Nothing about it was in Wednesday's. Do you have some source for this?
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
I think he was asking if we were getting it. I'm going with.....NOPE.
[Epic 4G General] .OmEgA:
When will I receive a winning ticket for the lotto??

Seems to fit everyone else questions about gb :)
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
My source is ...... whosdaman..

He seems to know the future..

lol
[Epic 4G General] poit:
If it works like all the other updates and we see something in this Wednesday's playbook, the release will start trickling out late on the 24th. It will take another week before everyone is offered the OTA update. There will be a mad flurry of activity on this board begging people who receive the OTA update to capture it and upload it so we can all get a flashable version.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
When it does arrive the critical thing will be for some helpful Sprint insider (hint hint) to get us a full Odin flashable version, and more so someone needs to pre-root it for us. Please. ^_^
[Epic 4G General] GucciPilot:
We have ODIN CWM Recovery and Superuser.zip this phone is extremely easy to root and fix if you Eff up, just don't use the Samsuck stock cable

Maybe Samsung will upload the ROM along with source on their servers like they did a long ass time ago... Here's hoping
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Im willing to bet that samsung will somehow screw up the update

List of possible outcomes:

1) accidently ota doughnut

2) brick phones

3) change boot ani to laughing troll face telling u to buy a newer phone

4) make 10 more rdfs by accident and to cover up their miss they will delay gb
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I'm actually going based on history here and trends. I haven't spoken to my source in nearly two months.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Whyz?!
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Because he only responds to wdm :(
[Epic 4G General] Arashisenko:
CIQ

Some rumor from the Sprint guy that manages the store I go to, seems to say that Samsung is baking the CIQ into the source kernal. Not happy-funtimes.
[Epic 4G General] metalblaster:
Im just going to come out and say it, and honestly i don't care who reads this post. Samsung and Sprint are some of the worst f(cking companies on the planet when it comes to customer support and satisfaction. We should be waiting for an ICS update not a f(cking gingerbread one.

And yeah i know ICS isnt out yet, but we should be in line to get it for when it does come out, hell we more than meet the requirements. I mean for f(cks sakes we have a 1 year old phone running 1.5 year old software that isnt even complete and we havent see a single update in about 6 months. Not to mention that every time i take this POS of a phone into sprint to try to get it fixed or exchanged because of some new bull$hit bug created by the Shotty Software samsung made, i get a condescending F-head laughing in my face about updates for this sinking ship of a phone.

And for the record, anyone who went on to the Epic Fail 2 should be ashamed of themselves and if they aren't, they will be in a year when they haven't seen a rats fart about ICS or any new updates.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Cool story brah...
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Waaah waahhh. We don't care. You obviously don't know how the world works. Updates can't just leave googles hands then go straight into your phone jackass
[Epic 4G General] Neckberg:
That is precisely what happens if you have a Nexus as a phone...

Why don't we stop flaming, it accomplishes nothing.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Hey, don't sugar coat it man...tell us how you really feel!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Not instantly though but they are the first. But poster I was replying to wants ics well not even the nexus has ics yet so te guy is being retarded enuff said
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
He clearly stated "I know ICS isn't out yet"

What he meant was we should've been on gingerbread for a while and at this point in tme we should be waiting for ics to drop sine we should've been on gingerbread.

Again, since redundancy helps the people who can't be told things in general terms, we should've been on gb by now waiting for ics. We should not be waiting for gb which should've been on our phones months ago.

I really do wanna know what the holdup is. Its obviously not samsung since the international (and localized international ones, I.e: brazil) all have been on gb since like march.

Only the american branded phonesare still on froyo (officially lol)

So that definitely narrows it down to carrier(s) since even the vodafone branded one ison gb
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
I think Donut would be pretty cool.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
I no longer have an epic but my wife does and if I was you guys I would be torching sprint to the ground. This is the same b/s they pulled going from eclair to froyo. They only responded AFTER the flaming went on for a couple of weeks did they magically produce an update. I say you guys burn them to the ground. start threads get on sprints twitter page anything to get the word out. But that is just my 2 cents.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
You guys are funny. There have been numerous test roms, all the leaks have been buggy, yet you think there is some magical perfect rom that sprint is withholding. If you remember, Sprint released a buggy version of Froyo and had to pull it. I suppose that's what you want them to do with Gingerbread too; release a buggy rom. I'd rather not go through the hassle and I'm sure they'd rather not go through the customer service nightmare.

It's not like they haven't been working on the roms. Now that the constant flow of RDFs has dried up that MAY mean that there is a solid rom in it's final stages. Let them test it for a few weeks, and maybe on the 24th we will get gingerbread. If we go through a month of silence and still have nothing, then I'd start to get pissed.
[Epic 4G General] Caraes_Naur:
I got my Epic in May, after debating whether to be stuck with Samsung's pitiful update cycle or not having a number row on the Evo 4G. Overall I think HTC is a better OEM and makes better phones, but once I learned that the Epic was shipping with Froyo and GB was in the works, the decision was made for me.

My two previous phones which were both Moto's: v180 which I liked (but T-Mobile sucked), and the ic502 which was an abomination that should have been aborted during product planning. That should give you an idea of my upgrade cycle... I plan on keeping my Epic for about 3 years.

I've been waiting to root my Epic until GB drops. That all the international Epics have been on GB for months puts the blame for this delay squarely on Sprint. Sprint has their issues, but overall they have the best plans (the BS "smartphone data" fee not withstanding... and they don't even have 4G in my area, maybe not until this spring). Not to denigrate anyone specifically, but there seems to be a faint incompetence that permeates Sprint at all levels. The story last week about their lawyers, in court when asked by the judge, not being able to tell the difference between a Galaxy Tab and an iPad at 10 feet is laughably pathetic.

These delays are ridiculous. They'll get more ridiculous when Sprint has the iPhone and starts kissing Apple's ass regarding support, like AT&T has done for years. All the OMGNEWWTFBBQ "wah my phone is 6 months old" bandwagoners will be just as screwed.

Google could fix this by requiring the OEMs to fully support phones for the full term of the user contracts after first availability, but no one except us would want that: the Epic would be on ICS or the next one at its EOL. Sprint apparently doesn't have enough support infrastructure as it is.

If Sprint had clear and decisive management and properly allocated resources, GB would have dropped in July. It's not like these phones are full of bizarre hardware only in the US.

And if Sprint isn't somewhat incompetent, then they're just f*cking with us so we get pissed off and upgrade. Maybe both. It's not like we'll flee to another carrier.

Korey, please fire up your WDM alter-ego and ping your Sprint source for what the hell is going on. Double please with whipped cream and a cherry on top if this week's playbook once again has nothing in it for us.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
The iphone fixes that by putting out a new phone barely upgraded for all the fanboys to buy.
[Epic 4G General] Killasmoke:
Its been like 25 days since EI22 & no new builds since which either means EI22 is the official gingerbread build or they just gave up on giving gingerbread to the epic which I don't think they would do cuz people will light sprint & Sammy's ass up
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
It's been a while its weird....

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Could you post what you mean to check?

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[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Look at the top of epic general, I just posted a new thread.

Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G via Tapatalk
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Can't see the whole thing or half for that matter, but I see what's happening :(

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[Epic 4G General] ultra78721:
Sounds about right.....usually there's leaked photos but like the guyb said there's nada.

But what about Sprint mentioning the within...that throws me off.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Just because their are sometimes leaked photos doesn't mean that if there are none, it doesn't exist lol.

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[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
Turning into a one stop troll shop. Coming close to the thread being closed, so please no more trolling or closure will be imminent.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Wish we had an option for a voting system to keep certain people out of certain threads o_O

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Who was trolling? Lol
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
You got my point LMAO...

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[Epic 4G General] counterfeit187:
Thanks for that. I clicked thanks also. I went ahead and installed the IE tab add-on for firefox and put in an exception that makes "http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/*" open in an IE tab inside firefox... Yay for simpicity
[Epic 4G General] SINNN:
Thats wut om sayin, yu knoe!
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
LoL, yeah I got nothing against you personally, I'm all about keeping it fun...

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[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
SINN, I got an idea! Start a troll thread! Everyone would love it :).

Edit: added 4 links to the op. I don't feel like added url tags to these so here you go.

androidcentral: Samsung counts down to their Galaxy S II balloon project http://bit.ly/puU3Px #android

phandroid: Samsung: Nexus 3 Tweet Based on Rumors, Not Facts http://bit.ly/q1ab0r

androidcentral: Nexus S 4G update (obviously) delayed; Samsung Transform EF09 update pulled http://bit.ly/prwEKC #android

androidcentral: These Nexus rumors sound fishy - should you take the bait? http://bit.ly/niJqTA #android

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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I'll just smilie back here and I'll let y'all figure out why the updates were delayed
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
First thing I thought is that or might affect the release date of Epic GB, perhaps a common bug.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
New phone release dates?
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Tv out and fm of course. :-p

Sent from Godot's place.
[Epic 4G General] pixlz:
Okay. Here's my guess. There was this rabid duck who had a squirrel friend named Sven. Now Sven didn't like cheese so he went to his local hotdog joint named Charlies. Liking the name so much, Sven changed his name to Charlie. So while at Charlies, Charlir met another squirrel named Charlie. Boy was their egg on his face. Actually it was a bit of ketchup from the hot dog. But I digress... I'll stick with the normal guess of they needed to fix code in some way shape relating to the phone, modem, or software.

sent from my Epic... in the middle of somewhere.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I still think it has to do with future phone release dates, most likely the within
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Atleast they are trying? o_O

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[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
So much misguided info.
[Epic 4G General] .OmEgA:
Mudkips work in mysterious ways. Lol
[Epic 4G General] Caraes_Naur:
Please enlighten me. Seriously.
[Epic 4G General] toweringflesh:
Except that the Stratosphere is an exact replica of the Epic 4G in terms of aesthetics. The minor difference being that the Stratosphere's capacitive button markers are a bit smaller and closer together. And actually, the Strat may be lighter than the Epic. I couldn't say for sure since the Strat I held had no battery installed.

Same 4" screen, same body size and shape, same 5 row QWERTY with Android operation buttons along the sides. Epic getting the leg-up in terms of hardware, besides the Strat bolstering 4G LTE.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I'm positive the epic touch will be more powerful than the galaxy nexus. Ics is optimized for dual core devices, and even though the processor in the epic touch is 1.2ghz, I still think it'll out perform the 1.5 ghz omap4
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I wish I could've gotten one lol.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Did you not call them?
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I wonder why sammy is even bothering developing that 1.5ghz exynos
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
You can bet your E4GT I did. They told me it didn't matter, they they weren't enrolling members into either premier status anymore, no matter what I was told.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Galaxy S III
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
They didn't move me to gold but they did reset my upgrade as promised, they told me I wouldn't be able to upgrade until 1/1/12 but it shows I can do it as of 10/1/11. If you want I can PM someone who may can help you.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Just checked, k0nane says CIQ could no be baked into the kernel.
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
I bought my photon cause its a great phone with frequent updates unlike my epic
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I would agree with this. Z, tough to make a comment like you did and not back it up with something other than straight opinion which =/= fact. Not saying I don't believe you, but if you're going to say someone is misguided, then I would suggest providing data to back that claim up.

And it needs frequent updates, so I'm glad you get them. I was putting a point that I don't think people would go drop $200+ on a phone just to get a new OS, especially GB. Or the fact Sprint is holding up the GB update to Epic just to try and get people to buy a new phone. Doesn't make sense. The Photon is a decent phone, no question.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
This quote says it all:
[Epic 4G General] poit:
And of course, Sprint keeps "leaking" broken gingerbread roms just to make us think they are working on it so we will stay frustrated and buy a new phone. All the while they have a perfectly good gingerbread rom locked away.

Funny how nobody is willing to jump to the most likely conclusion, that they were continuing to debug some major problems with the rom that only affected the US versions of the Galaxy S, and want to make sure that there is a clean release of the rom this time to prevent all the fusterclucks that seem to follow rom releases.
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
Occam's razor is lost on many people, unfortunately.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
http://www.pomegranatephone.com/

I want it
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
Eww

Lol
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thats kinda cool
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Nova Scotia?....Brilliant!
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
If its a TI OMAP 4460 clocked at 1.5ghz, then I highly doubt it. Also, the GPU will be important. If its the rumored PowerVR SGX543MP2, then the GSII will be crushed performance wise.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I say we let sammy, google or wdm be tie breaker
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
The TI OMAP 4460 wouldn't be clocked at 1.5Ghz though they siad it would be underclocked at 1.2Ghz. But still

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[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
Yeah, but by the time the Epic Touch sees Ice Cream next June, the quad-core Nexus will be out.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/EJ14.rdf

Latest for the Epic 4G Touch
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
2.3.3???

Why so low?
[Epic 4G General] bohiti:
Aww man, I was kinda hoping for a surprise announcement tonight of the pending release of ICS for a bunch of phones as a big statement of their dedication to eliminate fragmentation. I'm a dreamer :-)
[Epic 4G General] inimitableac:
http://m.phonedog.com/2011/10/18/sa...ages-specs-detailed-in-leaked-promo-material/

WILL JUST LEAVE THIS HERE
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
DOH !! 10char
[Epic 4G General] dexterboy1106:
Suprise suprise a samsung product not getting the latest gingerbread
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
specs look AMAZing! "LTE" = verizon exclusive?!
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Or will it eventually be the first LTE phone on Sprint? ( I wouldn't expect too many more Wimax phones, that ship has sailed.)
[Epic 4G General] kalel_293:
display size is a bit too big tho...
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
But, it should be about the same overall size as smaller phones
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I think the one in the article is going to be the VZW exlcusive phone. That will be announced tonight. I would expect maybe a 1-2 month 'exclusive' period on the phone for VZW, then it's open to all. I'm hoping it's not that long, but who knows.

The other possibility is there are two new Nexus phones. One for Verizon which has all the bloat, and the 'rest'.

I'm just hoping the release details on the non-VZW Nexus tonight as well.
[Epic 4G General] Neckberg:
Yeah, I am going to pass on this because the screen is .02 more than the Epic Touch 4G. That is just way to big. My eyes/hands are too small.

Really? So many people are really complaining about the screens getting too big. That makes no sense to me. And don't say it wont fit in your pocket, if you can't fit a 4.7 in phone in your pocket your doing it wrong.
[Epic 4G General] nom303:
That would only make sense if the wore skinny jeans? Lmao
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
And if you have external parts, NO ONE should be wearing those.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
Depends on how impressive those parts are
[Epic 4G General] kalel_293:
if its only .02 bigger than the epic then i might consider...but when u say 4' vs 4.7', it sounds way bigger on paper...no need to be defensive...
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
0.2 bigger than the Epic Touch which is 4.5. It is 0.7 bigger tha the Epic.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
But overall size, not just screen, its probably the same size as the E4GT.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
This = well played.
[Epic 4G General] Fire n mage:
The maker of the "ICS launcher" wasn't to off on the app drawer I think =P
[Epic 4G General] metalblaster:
You know that really makes this pathetic?

If sammy handed the source over to google or if they didnt insist on putting in their own craptacular UI (touchwiz), all phones could in theory be updated just as fast as Nexus phones are.

Think about it, How does Linux work? How is it able to be placed on so many different computers and have so many distributions? I remember the first time i installed Debian on an old POS dell comp. It took me a few hours but i was able to build code for the wifi card and have it actually WORK.

Why am I bringing linux into this? Because Android is essentially Linux. If the hardware had a more standardized system and the companies didn't lock down parts of the phone to stop people from rooting them, it would be easy for the community Devs to remake the drivers for each of their phones as well as manually create source.

Our phone has problems with GPS and even with its 3g and 4g drivers. If we had the tools and the access in theory we could remake the drivers for these pieces of hardware so that they would run smoother and work better, but Sammy and the other companies don't want this.

I mean it honestly makes more sense to push out phones with out embedding the UI into the Operating system then it does for google to send out their source then have these companies screw it up with all their bloatware and garbage. In that way, people like us, the people who actually know things about technology could customize and create Roms to our hearts desire and people who are less tech savy and just want a phone that works, would still get what they wanted. We could even take the ICS source from google and modify it for our own phone if things worked this way, but not only that, Companies wouldn't have to rebuild the operating system from scratch and heavy mod the kernels for each phone. All they would have to do is input the right driver packages and signatures into the phones and have them build them selves by connecting with servers. It would be way more effective for both sides.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Nexus hands on...http://phandroid.com/2011/10/18/new-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video-surfaces/
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Epic touch has gingerbread 2.3.4 already.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Yeah, rdf typos are lame lol
[Epic 4G General] poit:
As I understand it, source wouldn't give us any info about modems or device drivers. That's proprietary and has never been released. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oddly, my phone is on stock EC05 and has no problems with 3g, 4g, or GPS. It used to have GPS problems but clearing the GPS cache solved it. Perhaps many of these issues are brought on ourselves by constantly flashing oddball roms.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
were all going to see this live, right?

www.youtube.com/android... its live in 12 mins.
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
Yup, question is this or the new tosh.0 and workaholics lol

Edit: what am I saying ima watch both lol
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
The music reminds me of Mass Effect and I've spent about 20 minutes listening to it. lol.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
Grr.

This is how this thread makes me feel. :p
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Wait why would we want a new rdf?

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] piscesjoey:
Streaming it on my Evo hooked up to my 55" tv
[Epic 4G General] Fire n mage:
I agree completely XD
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
So when is ics source coming out? :)
[Epic 4G General] readingkeeper:
And we has Gingerbread source.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
https://opensource.samsung.com/

Search D700
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
SWEET ! Now U can get that STAR WARS Theme 4 Us ! ;)
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
Yes!

Finally GB Open Source. Thank You Samsung! :p

P.S. I'm not saying "Thank Me" but I did e-mail that very site responsible for Samsung's Software and asked for them to release GB Source. <3 They never replied but at least they listened.

P.S.S.

I watched the streaming of the Nexus Prime. I LOVED it. It really made me want to get the phone.. but not quite due to the phone itself, just for the sake of having that ICS feel. It's just wishful thinking, but now I want ICS on Epic. Will we ever be satisfied? :P I love Android Treats.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Yeah, I had to stop watching the ICS release video because it just looked so good and I know it will be a while before we see it.

On another note, when they posted the source for Froyo it was just a few days before we got the ROM. Now that they have posted the source for D700 GB it's got to be just a few days before we get an official GB rom!
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Oh jesus, ICS supports mkv playback. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT.

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-sdk-released-features-developers/

That screen. Playing my HD videos. I WAAAAAAAAAAAANT IT.