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[HTC EVO 3D] mevensen:
No kidding.

I look at my remaining battery when I go to bed and think, boy, could have used this thing much more.

The only problem is that I don't know that it will make it 2 solid days without a charge session. I'll have to see if that's possible on light use/strong signal days.
[HTC EVO 3D] spencer88:
Mine so far, 4 hours with moderate to heavy usage and I have over half my battery left. Pretty good so far, much better than my OG EVO.
[HTC EVO 3D] ScrapMaker:
on the days that I think, "wow this thing has incredible battery life--it's barely moved at all since I unplugged it!" typically it will just plummet to like 50% without warning... the battery indicator is pretty much a joke if you ask me.
[HTC EVO 3D] ogrenator:
well...as soon as seido releases their extended slim battery i think it will be perfect...i have no complaints about the battery now and I was getting about 40 hrs on my OG EVO after putting cyanogen on it
[HTC EVO 3D] bmoreboy02:
My 4g use to take that same dive.....so far this one drops bout 5% at a time
[HTC EVO 3D] awesomeindeed:
I've been off the charger now for over 6 hours, WiFi on, Bluetooth on, about an hour and a half of phone calls over BT, 30 min browsing, push email, about 20 texts and checking Facebook and Linkedin about once a half hour and my battery is at 66%. My Evo 4G would have been dead by now with that kind of usage.

This weekend I was able to get 24 hours out of the phone both days. I'm very pleased with the battery on this phone to say the least.
[HTC EVO 3D] thefirefli:
Is all this great battery life with or without the updates?
[HTC EVO 3D] mevensen:
+1 for the extended slim, can't wait to see that

It's funny, but I'm not quite jonesing to root my 3VO quite yet. This has got a lot of new technology (3D, asynch dual cores, 4G, etc.) that I want things fully baked. I know 4G's not exactly new, but considering how many ROMs for the OG EVO had issues getting it up an running (not to mention lost WiMax keys), I still consider it an extra challenge.
[HTC EVO 3D] CYDVicious:
I had the 2000mAh GaliliO battery for the EVO 4G, and would go morning 7am to late evening without issues, 14+hrs with moderate use.

I would say the 3vo is comparable, but on a 1730mAh battery, It's scraping up to around 10hrs of moderate use, and I have not spare to swap out yet. Out of the box, the battery beats EVO out of the box last year, but still leaves something to be desired.

I've got a couple 1850mAh's on the way, hoping they don't blow chunks.
[HTC EVO 3D] mahalocat:
Battery Life -

My Battery Charges up to 100% - the light stays on - but it stops charging...

and actually losses charge.

thoughts?
[HTC EVO 3D] mevensen:
How much charge? Many have noticed the battery cycling between 95-100% once it's fully charged. If you're losing more than that, you might want to look into it a bit further.
[HTC EVO 3D] ScrapMaker:
Funny, my Evo 4G would have been around 85% after that... unless I was in a fringe area, then all bets are off. I never ran Sense ROMs though, so it might not be a fair comparison.
[HTC EVO 3D] mahalocat:
Thanks - I haven't seen it drop below 96 on the charger -

I will keep an eye on it though.
[HTC EVO 3D] thefirefli:
Did you already install the OTA?
[Nexus One General] efrant:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/27/googl...tured-by-samsung-possibly-dubbed-nexus-prime/

Google’s first Ice Cream Sandwich phone to be manufactured by Samsung, possibly dubbed ‘Nexus Prime’

We exclusively reported details of Google’s first Ice Cream Sandwich smartphone — either a Nexus device, or a “pure Google” flagship handset from one of Google’s key partners — and we now have more information surrounding the world’s most anticipated Android phone. We reported that the handset would nix physical menu keys going forward, and would feature a monster 720p -resolution display, and we have now confirmed with our source that the screen itself is branded as a “Super AMOLED HD” display. The branding confirms our suspicions that Samsung will indeed be the manufacturer. We have also confirmed that the processor in the upcoming device will be an OMAP4460, just as we originally reported. Hit the jump for more.

This upcoming superphone will not have any carrier preloads or OEM customizations, which goes without saying for a Nexus phone or a reference/flagship Android offering. The current codename is “Prime”, and our source believes it’s possible that the phone could launch as the “Google Nexus Prime.” We also have information that Google’s onslaught of high-end Android devices isn’t going to stop anytime soon. With the Motorola DROID and Motorola XOOM, Google launched its flagship Android devices with one carrier and one OEM, but we’re hearing things might be switched up this time around. Our source indicated that Google could be working with multiple carriers and multiple OEMs on their own “exclusive” Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) halo devices, and that they may all launch around the same time.

Imagine flagship releases from Motorola, HTC, and LG with Ice Cream Sandwich available on AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless, and Sprint all at practically the same time… in addition to a Google Nexus handset from Samsung. The summer’s going to be hot, but it looks like the fall might get even hotter.
[Nexus One General] mattpannella:
my friend's company does marketing for samsung and he said yesterday they're doing another nexus phone
[Nexus One General] player911:
Hopefully they have microSD support. Looks like it won't have Tegra 2 support which sucks. The Galaxy S2 is a the only phone I'd move too other then my G2x. Hopefully Samsung doesn't screw it up like the lackluster Nexus S.

I wish they would just name it Nexus One, Nexus Two, Nexus III, etc. All those silly names suck TBH. Nexus Prime reminds me of a transformer.
[Nexus One General] efrant:
Why does that suck?
[Nexus One General] crachel:
Glad this could go to Samsung, their screens are the best currently, but if a "flagship" comes from HTC, I will no question get that as well.

Manufacturers don't like the idea of being number two or III.. hence 'S' and Prime.

...the only one that they will all scramble for is the Nexus 6, since that's a Replicant ;)

The Nexus S doesn't have a microSD, but it has built-in storage that functions exactly the same.. why would you care about this?
[Nexus One General] bleach168:
If true, this will be my next phone.
[Nexus One General] phazerorg:
Hehe... Nexus Prime actually is a transformer :D

I kind of agree about the name... but I'll still be watching this phone carefully. This is the only thing I've heard of so far that I'd consider giving up my N1 for. Nothing else I've seen is enough of an upgrade to be worth it for me, since my N1 is currently serving my needs beautifully.

Hopefully battery life will be reasonable with that big screen...
[Nexus One General] moelester518:
I just want something to be confirmed so I can decide to wait or just get the GS2.

DAMN IT JUST TAKE MY MONEY GOOGLE!
[Nexus One General] GuestK00225:
Micro SD support is important to me because I need all the extra space. My music library is 24gb and my network coverage isn't very good, so music beta isn't an option. Add Kindle books, Logos library, and other apps and 32gb is hardly enough and doesn't give much room to grow. If Nexus Prime comes with 64gb on board then I won't care about SD support otherwise I will want to move my 32gb micro SD to whatever new phone I get.
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=993403

I know it can happen to any device, but I've heard the same story tons of times from samsung's symbian phones with built-in storage back on howardforums as well. Plus, I'd be sad if I couldn't use my 32gb microsd in a future nexus phone :P
[Nexus One General] sirgoob:
I'd like to at least know by Jul 7 if VZW would be getting a nexus phone

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
It's rumoured that more than one manufacturer may be making an ICS Nexus phone. That would be great.. a selection of good, Vanilla devices!
[HTC Sensation] gbear14275:
EDIT: Nevermind, while in the process of editing this post to narrow its scope I found a related post to watch. Thanks to readers. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1062348

Anyone here using Oneiric with their sensation have any advice for better compatibility?

I just recently upgraded from a W755 and have been running into a few troubles. A couple things I'm wondering:

USB tethering. I see options for both making the internet available to my phone from my computer and from my phone to my computer... I can't seem to tell if either are working. Anyone able to get these working (in linux/ubuntu w/unity)? (Haven't tried wifi hotspot but am guessing it works fine).

Management programs: Is there anything which allows easy management of phone information from a linux os? I had to work for 5 days to clean up all my contacts between duplicates, missed links and other problems. Would have been much nicer to do with some form of management interface on my laptop.

Other: In general could anyone offer up any advice for either a new smartphone user running linux as their only OS or things to watch out for? I'm already eager to see what cleaning up of the bloatware I can do when the thing gets unlocked (The fact that I can't uninstall a crappy bundled FPS is stupid).

Thanks in advance,

Garrett
[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
Hi,

I want to buy a 32 gb micro sd for my Atrix, but I see there are different Classes....

I saw in TheCellGuru a 32 gb Class 2 for about 75 bucks. But I remeber I had a Class 4 8gb, so what is the difference?

Can my Atrix read any 32gb card? Should I look for another one?

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Accessories] neer2005:
The higher the class the faster the SD card.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
Thnx. But can Atrix read any class? What class should I get?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] lunzi88:
if you can live with the slower speed, den the 32gb is fine.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
But whats the deal with speed? Does it affect performance on the phone or just data transfer time when moving files to and from the micro sd?

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[Atrix 4G Accessories] erick161:
IIRC, class speed also affects how fast the SD loads on your phone.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
Thnx. So, lets say I never turn off the phone, and the sd card will load only once, getting a 2 class sd isnt a bad idea. Am I right?

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[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
Can someine confirm if Atrix supports Class 6 32 gb micro sd?

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[Atrix 4G Accessories] neer2005:
Yes an ATRIX will support a class 6 32gb SD ( finally moto adds ATRIX as a word in their keyboard lol)
[Atrix 4G Accessories] _kansei_:
Slight correction: the higher the minimum speed guarantee. A class number defines the absolute minimum write speed of an SD card. Devices can read the class from the card and with that can set some expectations in the software for how long things should take.

So with that, there are Class 2 cards that actually, out of the box, perform better than cards with a much higher class. Will they forever, once worn and fragmented? Maybe not.

It's all very vague, exactly what the manufacturers want :p
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Mgamerz:
I had a class 2 8GB card and now have a class 4 32GB card ($45 on amazon with their goldbox deal, kingston) and the class 2 is like 2 mbps faster than my class 4... maybe i should have gone with the class 2...
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Careca_RS:
I have a Lexar 32Gb class 10, it's working despise of some bad comments around it, so far, so good. The class of the card is about the reading speed - the higher, the better (in theory).
[Atrix 4G Accessories] vanstorm:
I have the 32g class 10 lexar but it failed on my once and I needed to reformat it. If I had to by another one I would stick with sandisk. They are pretty solid.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] kdoodle:
Generally class determines the speed of Read and Write.

Class 4 is usually the minimum requirement for HD recording as it requires faster writing abilities.

Not all microSD have the same speeds as each company varies with speed even if they are the same class. Some class 4 could actually be faster than class 6.

Beware of fake microSD as usually that may be one of the reasons that it could be slower or even die out within the first week of usage.

I would recommend using SD Tools in the market place as soon as you receive your card.

https://market.android.com/details?id=ales.veluscek.sdtools&feature=search_result

Just be patient with the deals, there's always a lower price.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] _kansei_:
Write speed, not read speed. The whole "class" thing is confusing enough without people giving incorrect information. Sorry to be so pedantic.

Here it is direct from the source (PDF): http://www.sdcard.org/developers/te...lified_Specification_Ver3.01_Final_100518.pdf

Also from the source, a simplified overview: http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/

Class is based on write speed because SD cards (well MMC) of course were originally conceived of for use with digital cameras and camcorders, where write speed is critical, but read speed much less so.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Careca_RS:
Yeap. That's what I meant. :P

Thanks for the correction ;)
[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
Thabks everyone! I will wait and be on the look for a nice deal. Thnx!

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[Atrix 4G Accessories] _kansei_:
I just tested my 16GB class 2 MicroSD (Patriot brand, off newegg) that i've had for a year or two. The minimum write speed during the benchmark was 10.5 MB/s, i.e. Class 10 speeds. Read speeds were 16MB/s. I'm pleased :D

Since there's a high variance, all you can do is buy a card based on brand reputation and the class rating and hope that it's actually faster than the class suggests. Does it need to be faster? I dunno, I only use my card for media storage.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Souai:
greetings, im new to the forums (and the atrix, only had this baby for two days now), but i can shed some light on the matter.

with the microSD cards, the class tells you the minimum write speed. class 2 = 2mb/s minimum. class 4 = 4mb/s minimum. hence your class 4 is meant to be 2mb/s faster than class 2.

at the moment, i use a class 10 16gb from kingmax. for the most part, most people wont notice the difference between most classes, but if you want to take lots of photos in rapid succession or if you plan to film 720p footage directly to the SD card, or even if you watch really large videos, its generally better to go for a higher class.

sure, you can still take a 5-8mp photo and save it to a class 2, but at class 2 speeds, it would take ~1 second for the photo to save. on a class 10, it takes ~0.2 seconds for the same photo to save (assuming all else remains the same), which can come in handy for quick snaps. but given the amount of ram we have on the atrix, i'd assume it would buffer to ram first and copy later so it wouldnt be much of an issue.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ParrotSquawk:
I took a chance....

I took a chance and bought some Chinese 32GB cards supposedly rated for Class 10.

I ran a test on one of the cards , placing it inside my phone, using SD tools (from the market)

It reported write speeds of 4.0 MB/s and read speeds of 5.3MB/s. In theory that's about a class 6 but there are supposedly latency issues that creep up as the cards get larger.

I need to compare that number to known cards before I say anything about the source. I'd be curious to see test results from this app on other atrix's with other microSD cards.

I do notice that it is faster loading everything than my SanDisk 16GB class 2 card. My camera works faster too: faster to load the pictures and faster to take them.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] _kansei_:
Did you try putting 32GB of data on it? I thought the issue with the fake cards is that they tell the OS they have more memory than they actually do.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Datblkbro:
32gb class 6 here.. And its damn good
[Atrix 4G Accessories] kdoodle:
does anyone find this to be fishy? It's so cheap for a class 4 32GB

http://cgi.ebay.com/32G-32GB-Micro-...ltDomain_0&hash=item2a1201d9f0#ht_1828wt_1139

It looks pretty legit but I haven't decided whether it's worth the risk.

I'm looking for a 32GB and I'm okay with class 4.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] jjwatmyself:
Solid state does not degrade in performance with fragmentation.Also the act of defragmenting on solid state causes wear so I do not recommend it. People with cameras notice speed more than anyone. Also the class rating is for a continuous write and does not reflect typical usage performance. There may be miro SD reviews out there that show who is king at the moment that would be worth looking at.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] _kansei_:
Ah, but they do. If I had a minute I'd dig up some sources (posting from my mobile), but search sdcard.org for fragmentation. There's stuff in their whitepapers on it.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] jjwatmyself:
Perhaps it is SSD then. I guess the point is that the rules differ based on the storage type. I have always found that removable storage is pretty slow. I think it is compact flash supports the fastest transfer speeds out of all of them.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ParrotSquawk:
What does wear SD cards?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] pukemon:
all that money you're saving is going to the tm's after everything in the header. i wouldn't even bother with that if i were you. is it really worth the gamble trying to save a buck?

usage. flash memory is rated for write cycles/data written to them. same with ssd's or any type of flash memory. it's all finite. it's all just a matter or making it reliable and last longer than an extreme example of usage. it's pretty hard to wear out an sd card in a phone unless you do nightlies all the time and then some. it's also a good idea to buy more memory than you think you need if you do a lot of writing, because the overhead will help extend the life of your card.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ParrotSquawk:
It took me a few hours but I did manage to put 32GB on them.

I bought 8 of them: my brother took 2, I kept 2 and I got two for a friend. I'll probably sell the other two here somewhere.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Eddie Bombay:
Wintec Class 10 16GB Card @ Fry's.

I'm getting 13-16MB Transfer rates.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] wintermute000:
32Gb sandisk class 4

seems to work fine, no complaints from me
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ParrotSquawk:
Transfer rates?

That speed may be a function of the device, not the card. USB speeds are 480 MB/s (IIRC) in theory. Class speeds are write speeds, not read speeds.

Notwithstanding that, Wintec is a major manufacturer whose reputation is very good.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Mgamerz:
USB 2 reads about~ 40Mb/s max in my experience. I have a USB 3 external hard drive, and usb 2 gets around 38 read while usb3 gets about 78. That usb3 might be hard drive limitation at 5400rpm. Most cards will never write over 14... one day... one day.

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] bimmerboii:
Your card is a class 4. Just return it?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] drpratik:
which is recommended for atrix?

wintec or patriot ?

which one do i order?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Bruce Lee:
A Sandisk memory card. Those are the best.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Souai:
on my old n900 there was a command i could use in the command prompt to bench microSD cards.

my old sandisk 16gb class 2 averaged 3mb/s, min of 2.4mb/s, max of 7mb/s.

currently im using a 16gb kingmax class 10 card. average 16mb/s, min 12mb/s, max of 22mb/s. pretty good considering i bought it off ebay, and unlike my old sandisk, this one actually can hold 16gb without crashing. currently running this card in my atrix. its quite zippy.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] drpratik:
already running on class 4 4gb from sandisk.

will find class 10.

thanks.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] drpratik:
already on class 4 sandisk card.

I will find class 10.

thank you.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] djeuch:
I triend to balance cost with size and speed. Got myself a Transcend 16 GB Class 6... SD Tools reports 15.0 MB/s write speeds - good enough for me!
[Atrix 4G Accessories] maddie01:
Did a little bit of research and got the Sandisk class 4 16 gb for about 20 bucks....I have beard too many stories of folks having lost data with cheap no name cards.....
[Atrix 4G Accessories] dragoncius:
I just saw a 32gb class 10 memorette for 10 bucks! Myabe its worth trying...

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[Atrix 4G Accessories] pukemon:
I just recently bought a sandisk 16g/c4 and lexar 16g/c6 micro sd. I went in thinking the sandisk was going to be my pick but after benchmarking the lexar won overall. The only thing the sandisk won was large files read @ 27mb/s. The lexar was right behind it though at 25. On the low and mid end though the lexar whipped some ass raking in almost twice the speed. I didn't get benchmark speeds in real usage after popping in my ATRIX but I am thoroughly impressed. I haven't seen less that 7mb/s write except for small files, and I get 9mb/s + very often. I've seen 12-15 mg/s sustained on write. And close to 20 mb/s very often on read.

On that note, I highly recommend lexar class 6 cards. And I still highly recommend sandisk and transcend cards also. Sandisks are very reliable and no slouch on speeds even though they are stopping rating their cards. Transcend has always been good to me. And that was my first lexar and it surprised me. If it lasts the life of my ATRIX ill definitely keep endorsing it.

Sent from the coolest phone ever.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Pistolaobr:
Strange situation... I just bought a oem class 10 32gb microsdhc (same company that makes the sandisk ones), from a trusted seller, as usual I did run the h2testw on it before paying the guy, it did have 32gb, 10mb/s writing and 18mb/s reading... (tested on a regular card-reader from my notebook). So I bought it and put it inside the atrix, format it on atrix (fat32) and tested the speeds with sd tools benchmark, and got the same result, BUT... when I try to read or write anything on it, from inside the atrix, with the usb cable connected to the pc, the writing speed is only 4mb/s, reading 10mb/s. AND if i try to copy anything from the atrix memory to the card memory using the windows explorer, it is even worst.

So why the atrix can use all the speed, and the notebook can use all the speed if connected on the sd card reader, but the computer cant use all the speed if connected trought usb cable on the atrix???

Is there any better drivers than the ones from the motorola web site (windows 7 64bits)????
[Atrix 4G Accessories] budh99:
A Data 16GB class10 from Newegg

14.5 Write

18.7 Read

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] likounin:
It's quite a long time for me to boot android(I'm using WM all these days), and I found that when trying to use apps like autostart or shootme which require root, I was told my device was not rooted.

All works fine weeks ago. I'm using GBX0A on Raphael100
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
What did you change?

Our junk is rooted out of the box. No need to do anything additional for root access.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] likounin:
just install and uninstall some apps, so what actions will made a build become unrooted ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
I don't think you can intentionally unroot the build... I'm by no means an expert on how Android works at the core, but I've been trying to learn.

AFAIK, the concept of a rooted build mainly applies to the ability to remount file systems as RW. If the system partition is read-only (RO) and cannot be remounted with write access, then no root ability.

I know TitaniumBackup also requires busybox, not sure if that's a TB-specific thing or if it's also required for root.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] likounin:
after a reboot, things seem all right now, hard to understand...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
C'est la vie, don't question it. Glad it's working :p.