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[HTC EVO 3D] psrespy:
I wonder if somethings going on with the towers in Depew NY today. Because the fastest speed test I got today was 44 kbps Down and 336 kbps Up even tried reverting my MSL back to default and resetting/reactivating.
[HTC EVO 3D] rkeen:
Same here. Bye bye MSL.
[HTC EVO 3D] -Apollo-:
I'll change the name when I can sit in my living room with my EVO 3D and my EVO 4G side by side with good results on both. 3g is still great on my EVO 4G at home, (even though they say there is an outage)...not so much on 3D. I don't know if 3g outages affect all devices or just some devices. There is definitely better reception on my EVO 4G though. I don't have an explanation, but something isn't right and obviously a lot of people are having similar issues. I am glad you are having good results. I am on hardware version 0002. What version do you have?
[HTC EVO 3D] lopezpm:
There must be multiple towers down in every state then, cause their speeds really sucks bad
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
They said all towers are working in eau Claire Wisconsin.. and said it must be my 4 day old phone along with my EVO 4G that is having the same problem... Yay for ignorance

sent from a phone you can't afford
[HTC EVO 3D] Arnezie:
Towers? They have more than one in Wisconsin? Just kidding, little Michigan humor .

On a side note, I had some real slow 3g with my 3VO and went thru the whole msl thing and it has got a little better but still not like my OG EVO.
[HTC EVO 3D] PensFan66:
Oh man - Im in Depew as well and I got the phone on Launch day at 8:30 and I havent seen speeds beyond 50-100k, except at night (12am or so). I also have crappy speeds downtown and around the Pepsi center in Amherst.

In all honesty - During the day, speeds down right suck
[HTC EVO 3D] heygrl:
Phoenix is a market that has consistently performed poorly. T-Mobile & Verizon are the top carriers in Phoenix... it's kind of embarrassing how much faster T-Mobile's HSPA+ is there and Verizon's LTE obviously blows the doors off of both.. 3G is still much better than Sprint's but not nearly as fast as T-Mobile's 3G. But Phoenix has been bad for sprint for nearly a year now. Lots of 1X switching too.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Source? I've heard rumors of this for years..I would think this would be more common knowledge if this was the case..I love sprint but they do need to speed up their network..they can't compete with other carriers..friends with 3g phones on ATT get faster speeds than I do in 4G
[HTC EVO 3D] heygrl:
Rev B requires a new chipset. Even if it does happen which it probably won't, your phone wouldn't be able to take advantage anyway. It's not like HSPA upgrades.
[HTC EVO 3D] dwntwnall4u:
Tonight my 3G download speeds are hitting an average of 2.20 Mbps here in san diego with the stock settings. The past 3 weeks was averaging only about 0.5 Mbps on my OG EVO and 3VO?
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Evo 4g and evo 3d have the rev b chipset already biult in
[HTC EVO 3D] Costas86:
my 3g speeds are horrible.. really disappointed by this thing. my palm pre used to do much better.

i used to use my phone to tether whenever my internet went down at home, now it just barely creeps along. unfortunately there's no 4g coverage in my neighborhood either.
[HTC EVO 3D] DozeBeatS:
Those speeds look like mine. =)
[HTC EVO 3D] Costas86:
I'm on hold with customer support right now so I can get my MSL code and see if that fix does anything.. will update w/new results soon as it's reconfigured.

edit: MSL Fix seen here actually made a HUGE difference, awesome.

Before:

After:

Edit 2:

Now if only there was a mod to increase speed while tethered.. I used WiFi to tether my 3vo to my pc and got some pretty horrendous speeds, ah well!
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeDCMDVA:
Guys I don't know what it is but I have been getting horrible 3G reception everywhere I go....I don't think the Evo I used to own was this bad..

Highly considering returning this....as if this bootloader mess wasn't enough
[HTC EVO 3D] lopezpm:
So tomorrow is the day? They aren't just going to flip the switch across the nation are they? I think they are just lowering our expectations so when they give us back our regular sh!tty speeds we will feel like it's an improvement.
[HTC EVO 3D] heygrl:
hmm yeah you're right but with Sprint seriously lacking in capacity (BACKHAUL) NOW.. an upgrade like this is pointless.
[HTC EVO 3D] takethewall:
I get over 1 mbps consistently... Maybe you guys having troubles should take yours back for an exchange.
[HTC EVO 3D] lopezpm:
My 3g speeds were around 2 Mpbs with the Evo4G early on and then it started degrading to the point where they are now. So it's not the phone it's the service.
[HTC EVO 3D] 2k4mach:
I highly doubt this many people have defective phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeDCMDVA:
LoL its the Sprint network! They can't handle all the Android users that they now have as compared to when they had so-so Android phones LoL
[HTC EVO 3D] rxc777:
Just so you guys know sprint is upgrading to the VISION network here in PR we are expiriencing same issues but they are working on it ;]
[HTC EVO 3D] MrPhilby:
My 3rd 3VO has a download speed of 22kpbs (similar to my 2nd that they replaced) and upload of......4500kpbs! (that was the max, I also got 33XX and 23XX)

If I could get that swapped I wouldn't care about 4G!
[HTC EVO 3D] Arnezie:
You are on your 3rd phone in under a week?
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Here is a clip about what sprint is doing its not lte ok and it wont be until later on next year and the clip is that is coming in the next couple of days ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C-3xm4HFLA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[HTC EVO 3D] waltah!:
testing mine today at my usual spots I'm actually getting better and more consistent data speeds than my Evo 4G.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zorachus:
YouTube shouldn't even be allowed on.this phone. Sprint sucks for streaming media.

My EVO 4G was a joke playing uTube videos for my daughter. Always stopping then have to restart all over again.

Now with the 3VO, holy cow is it bad. I can't even use it.

I live in Chicago and Sprint service has gone down the tube, no pun intended.

Sent from my EVO-3D waiting for Myn's ROM
[HTC EVO 3D] grinchyyy:
I called sprint tech support, they didn't give any information about EVDO rev B, but said that she would call me back tomorrow with information on it, as well as the upcoming usage of the Nextel iDen frequencies. Not sure if she will come through with any useful information :)

I complained about my terrible 3g speeds (below 100k all day today). She was an upper level tier tech by the way. She did a "refresh on the network" for my phone. Not sure what that means. It had nothing to do with a hard reset which I tried already. After I hung up, the phone automatically updated something(not the msl proxy stuff). She then said to turn off my phone and take the battery out for 30 seconds.

After booting back up, my speeds went back up to 1.5 mb down 512 k up. So whatever she did it helped. Now to wait for the phone call tomorrow about any upcoming network changes.
[HTC EVO 3D] tasq:
Please let us know if those speeds stick. Thanks! ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Viper87227:
Between the Evo 4G, Nexus S 4G, Epic 4G, and Evo 3D that I've had my hands on in the past month, this is getting the best 3G speeds out of them all. Evo Evo and Epic both got 500-800, the NS was lucky to get 100 with its crap radio, and with this Evo 3D I am consistently getting 1.2-1.3.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zorachus:
I did same exact thing. Called Telesales, they did something on thier end to change my phone network. Had a wired message after she did it.

Same thing. Told to remove battery and restart in a minute.

Well phone is no better whatsoever, it might actually be worse now in my house. My mobile network connection inside is maybe 10% at best, a lot of times zero. And WiFi blows. Drops connection in 5min or less

Sent from my EVO-3D waiting for Myn's ROM
[HTC EVO 3D] waltah!:
I had no issues today playing flash athf videos on the web and streaming Netflix smoothly on 3g.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike21pr:
I hope this is the case, because i can barely break 200kbps. Sad part is that i switched from TMO, and that was screaming fast (6mb average)

s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
[HTC EVO 3D] heygrl:
VISION network upgrades will not be quick, if they've even started at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] nhutpham:
I was told by a cs rep that they were upgrading the network too, will be doing it until September here in the Bay Area.
[HTC EVO 3D] grinchyyy:
Well the speeds I reported have calmed back down. Wow this service is bad.
[HTC EVO 3D] Droga:
On the west side of PR (Aguadilla) Im getting 1.0mbps up/down in Gate 1 on Ramey AFB, and in the airport terminal I barely get 200/600kbps u/d (keep in mind, both these locations are not even half a mile apart from each other).

In Quebradillas, however, in my in-laws house, I get full bars and 1.6mbps/980kbps on the speed test app. So I guess its congestion-dependent to the tower that you are connected.
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Same places here in Chicago that generated 1.5M's consistantly on my Evo 4G has me at 300ish kbps now.

There is definitely an issue with the device...not the network.
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Eliminating the proxies DOES help (if done right...don't touch rtsp...reactivate w/out updating prl).

Toggling airplane mode off then on also does help, btw. Can take it from said 300 to 800 or so.

These keep me around 800 900 but its a pain).

The 3D or SGS2 or Hercules on T-Mobile is starting to look sweeter. (Go in and do a site-download contest with the Sensation).
[HTC EVO 3D] grinchyyy:
I am coming from Verizon so I am unsure of the re-activation process for Sprint phones? How is this accomplished?
[HTC EVO 3D] MrPhilby:
Yes - and still not getting above @50kpbs download speeds at my desk or home, which are the two places I use it the most. I occasionally get @100 if I'm outside, but that's still not acceptable.
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
Just checked now with xtremelabs and got 1140 kbps down and 1700 up. Did the test again on Speedtest.net and got 1160 up and 410 down.

Is this decent on 3g? I am getting alot better speeds than on my OG EVO, but it could be that a tower near me came back up.
[HTC EVO 3D] MrPhilby:
Kawaski - you're getting about 10x the 3g speeds I am, and about twice the advertised speeds so I would say that's pretty good.

I just got off the phone with Sprint, they reprovisioned data (I assume) and I'm now getting pretty consistent speeds of @130kpbs download, similar upload. Which is still not great (google.com takes @30 seconds to load :confused:) but at least music is actually streaming now!

I will check again when I go outside for lunch (I realize I'm not gonna get optimum speeds in an office building downtown) and hopefully I will get closer to the 600-700K I'm paying for.

At some point over the weekend I'll change the proxyies to see if that helps, and if there's no improvement by next week I'll swap it out one more time (activating my Evo for long enough to run some comparasion speed tests on its 3G in the same places I'm having trouble with my 3VO) and if that one doesn't perform any better I will be returning to my EVO for awhile.

Perhaps in the meantime this fantastic DEV community will have a new kernel available to boost 3G performance on the 3VO??
[HTC EVO 3D] -Apollo-:
Well I must say everything is looking good now at home! Maybe it was a network issue. For everyone that is still having horrible results, hang in their and hopefully it all works itself out. I am a very happy EVO 3D owner!!
[HTC EVO 3D] esanger21:
I dont live very far from you, lol...I live in Rochester, NY. I am in my house, here are my speeds.

3G: D/L - 2336kbps U/L - 612kbps

4G: D/L - 4966kbps U/L - 1698kbps (Only one bar of 4g)

I do have an airave in my house, but i dont think that helps with 3g speeds, well according to the article i have it doesnt, but anyways i just tried it with airave off, and it pulled 1926kbps down on 3G.
[HTC EVO 3D] rxc777:
Here in Guayama the 3g speed sucks but I went to ponce this morning and I was getting 2.0mps on the 4G network and if you guys need to know where there is 4G download the app sensorly from the market it is awesome it shows where there is 4G in PR and according to Sprint there is none over here

Sent From My Awesome H3D
[HTC EVO 3D] rxc777:
Here is another test

http://m.elnuevodia.com/quickPage.html?page=37635&cc=share.html?notId=976402 That link is to the network upgrade story

Sent From My Awesome H3D
[HTC EVO 3D] 2k4mach:
Wow 2meg on 4g. I usually get 4-6meg when hovering between 0 and 1 bar.
[HTC EVO 3D] rxc777:
Yeah but according to Sprint we DON'T have 4G in PR yet lol

Sent From My Awesome H3D
[HTC EVO 3D] madsquabbles:
using the same tower with a droid charge (verizon) and a evo 3d.

evo 3d: 243Kb/s

charge: 1.9 Mb/s

charge 4g: 12Mb!

i can even use 3g on the charge to watch hq youtube files.

i really hate to give up my sero plus acct, but damn LTE is fricken sweet. plus i just got this before the nix the unlimited data. there's quite a bit i give up - txt mssg(gonna have to use google voice), 9PM unlmited instead of 7PM, increase of $20/month, and and older gen phone (honestly don't need a dual core/3d phone, but nice to have).
[HTC EVO 3D] Jungle Jack:
Hello,

I live in Siesta Key, Florida, but I am often in Tampa. At least in Tampa, I have been getting really good 3G and 4G performance. I have not been back to Tampa-St.Pete where there is 4G to see how the MSL Proxy Mod changes things, but in Sarasota, 3G is working quite well.

Unfortunately, due to living on a Barrier Island (strict Building Codes) coupled with resistance from the Home Owners to adding Cell Towers in the Area, I have to use an Airrave Access Point to even get consistent Service inside my Home. However, with the Access Point, I got 2,221 kpbs Download, 620 kpbs Upload, and 368ms Ping after the Mod. My WiFi Scores are 13,081 kpbs DL, 6546 kpbs UL, and 82 ms Ping.

Cheers,

JJ
[HTC EVO 3D] stevebro6510:
evo 3d

am i reading this correctly? htc released a beast of a phone like that with only 3g? this seems to be what the providers are doing to maximize profit during the transition to 4g. for instance motorola comes out with the droid 3 and makes it dual core but only 3g. verizons 4g phones are single core.

I assume this strategy also allows them to manipulate the transition speed between technologies but, these things could also have to do with battery usage. the mobile market of laptops and smartphones is hitting a big chokepoint because the battery technology just isn't there to support these new devices. with each generation of technology our mobile devices last shorter periods of time.

*we need wireless electricity ie: Nikola Tesla or (the less exciting route) a new kind of battery.
[HTC EVO 3D] stryke504:
You notice that while sprint is the only network left to not throttle our speeds after a certain cap, the speed just sucks from the beginning?

T mobile had that after you meet the cap on your account you only get edge network. Feels like I'm already on edge.

Maybe sprint just has poor service here in New Orleans.
[HTC EVO 3D] zedwards:
Well I have finally given up on Verizon and have been moving over to Sprint. I get 500 kbps on both networks with Sprint sometimes going to 700. AND Sprint is cheaper and actually better voice service. I can talk on the phone while driving from town to my house in the mountains. Couldn't do that on VZW.
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
I cant believe that people say verizon 3g is faster. I have gotten speeds from .8 mb to 2.3mb on sprint. verizon is the same, I had droid x and verizon 3g speeds were horrible, around .5-.7mb under heavy usage hours and around 1.5-2.0 at late nights. Speed varies by location, stop thinking that its your phone and this sprint proxie stuff. It is the network, it might be better where I live then where you live.

Verizon 3g being always faster then sprints is a myth. I have my friend that has verizon and has the droid incredible and one that has thunderbolt, during the day time they bearly hit 1mb and that is the same as sprint. I can be in the same location and sometimes get better speeds on sprint.

Yes LTE is great, but my everytime my friend comes over to my house he drops 4g lte like there is no tomorrow, I am suppose to be in the heart of LTE coverage.
[HTC EVO 3D] heygrl:
.5-7mb is barely any difference from what you're getting on Sprint.

Sprint trails Verizon's 3G speed because they lack the capacity and backhaul.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
I hit the 2.7 mps on 3g as of right now and stable and my ups are 400 kb
[HTC EVO 3D] tx_dbs_tx:
I'm in Houston area and I agree Sprint data speeds is currently pathetic. Like many have said it just stopped all of a sudden and has been terrible ever since. I use to get 2 to 3mb download speeds on 3G consistently. Now it's extremely slow like the reports in this thread. I can't watch YouTube it plays for 3 seconds then buffers for 30 seconds then I fall asleep waiting for it to play. I just love paying extra every month for "premium" data that I DO NOT GET! Even 4G speeds suck right now.

But the fact of the matter is Sprint is in the process of MAJOR upgrades. Sprint Vision is going to ROCK! But will it come soon enough is the question... If Sprint doesn't get 3G back to standard speeds in a hurry there won't be any customers left to justify their technology investments. I'm giving it 3 or 4 months tops and if Sprint's data service is still sub par I'm gone! I'll gladly pay more for acceptable 3G speeds on a different carrier if it means I will have good dependable data and phone service that actually works!
[HTC EVO 3D] heygrl:
Network vision will take years. I wouldn't wait.
[HTC EVO 3D] iitreatedii:
Ok...I'm not reading through all these pages to see if someone posted this but, for the last time!!!! Your network bars are for calling and texting!!!!!! Not Internet speed SMFH
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
Then get off the Sprint/EVO forums!
[HTC EVO 3D] tx_dbs_tx:
Very bad signal fluctuation

This has been asked but there has been no answers. Does anybody know what cause our signal to go from zero to one bar then jump to full bars? It does it while standing in a fixed position.

As for signal not affecting data services, I know that if I have no bars or just one bar my data will not work on my phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] stevebro6510:
Both sprint and verizon use the same network technology CDMA2000 so imo arguing one faster than the other is just like the rest of the pointless speed threads. Do you remember when there used to be roaming charges on bills? A good amount of the time your not using your providers tower anyways and you dont even know it.

Location does make a huge difference, i have never lost signal on my particular carrier in my are but in other areas this may change just look at some of these posts.. maybe choose the technology you want, GSM or CDMA then find what network has the best coverage in your area.

long story short, do your research and you'll be happier in the end.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mikee4fun:
I live in the SF bay area market and have both Sprint and Verizon. My work phone is Verizon and is a Samsung Omnia II. I have to say both phones get the same 3G speeds and the network coverage is the same. The only speed improvement over Sprint with big red is LTE. That will fall to its knees once the iPhone 5 comes out and everyone will complain how many dropped phone calls, how ****ty the data is on Verizon. Sad part is Sprint is going to be getting the iPhone too at some point this upcoming year so we are all doomed!
[HTC EVO 3D] sheep_duck:
so ive seen this debate on this forums many times and havent read a definitive answer. if you turn the roaming protection off, will you get charged for roaming or not? ive seen yes and no, as well as it will be fine for a little while and then when you end up roaming for too long, they end up charging you.

can anyone provide some insight into this matter?
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
These carriers are greedy!

With the overpriced crap and they can't build a better faster network!
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
if you have everything data plan 450 or above, you dont get charged for roaming, you can roam all you want.
[HTC EVO 3D] tx_dbs_tx:
To answer your question... it depends on your plan. If your plan does not include roaming then you will be charged if your phone is used while roaming. This is what the roaming settings are for. On the other hand if you have a simply everything plan it includes unlimited free roaming. Now the thing about roaming is if you are always roaming excessively over a predetermined percentage for a predetermined number of months consecutively, Sprint can and will cancel your service and waive the early termination fee IF your plan includes unlimited free roaming. The reason is because Sprint has to pay other carriers roaming fees that likely would be far more than the cost of your monthly plan. Therefore canceling your service would be in Sprint's best interest for obvious reasons. If you are not ALWAYS roaming you would be fine. Check your plan to make sure roaming is included and if it is an additional charge or included free as in the simply everything plan.
[HTC EVO 3D] sheep_duck:
cool thanks for the replies guys. i looked on my contract paperwork, i dont see anything specifically about roaming, but according to nkd, the everything data 450 plan (which is what it looks like i have) is indicative of free roaming? i took a picture of my contract page to show you guys, maybe you can help me a bit. i am just being a bit overly cautious just because i don't want to be slapped with a huge bill; thanks a lot guys.

http://i.imgur.com/lNVLy.jpg

edit: ive been trying to find a definitive answer via google, and i came across this page:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/10542

they are saying that you are able to go up to 50% of your anytime minutes in roaming minutes for free, until you then start getting charged. how do texts play into this? also, i realize this thread is from '08 so maybe someone else can point out if maybe it is outdated by now.
[HTC EVO 3D] bigmikehd2:
I can't even even get a single youtube video to play with 3g and full bars. Soon as i turn on 4g or wifi, it works perfect. No clue

EDIT: funny thing is, it's just the app because if i go to youtube website with browser, I can watch any video in 3g. This makes no sense to me
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
Call and and sprint Exactly what your plan details about roaming
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
You know that was my biggest problem with my 3d when I first got it. It couldn't play a youtube video worth crap. I could even be on wifi and it would pause to buffer. The og was never like that. Shoot even my photon played a video just fine at my work where I get 2 bars.

But your saying that the website version of youtube plays just fine? Hmm ill have to remember that for next time
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tildog:
Hello every one I did some digging and some exsparementing before posting so my appolagied if the answer has been posted and I missed it

I'm on a ns4g running cm7 nightly 30 but have tryed stock also as well as most kernals I can use wifi tether on my laptop but cannot get my galaxy tab to see it. Has anyone found a work around for 4g I can use native theater 3 g but unless I pay I can't use 4g and the few rare times I need or want to use just don't justify the monthly any help would be appreciated and ty in advance
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krohnjw:
The Wifi Tether for root users creates an Ad-Hoc network. Android devices (your tablet) cannot connect to Ad-Hoc networks.

The built in wifi tethering (when the hardware supports it) creates an infrastructure network - which any android device can connect to.
[Thunderbolt General] chrisjm00:
I've been having an annoying problem lately. I'm running theory of ginger 4.2 and lately my 4G connection will just drop out and it won't reconnect for 5+ minutes. If I manually disable and reenable the connection it immediately grabs 4G back. It will stay steady for maybe 40 minutes and then drop out. This has happened on the MR2 and MR2.5 radios. Suggestions?
[Thunderbolt General] crazed_z06:
Mine does this routinely on a stock phone. Dunno if it's the network or the phone.

Dont know if this phone/network was ready for primetime :(