yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
Well, we do know the story of Joel citing all his sources, which went like this:

I suppose the argument then, is whether citing Virus as a base requires Joel to cite all sources of Virus as well. Which would get out of hand fairly quickly if you had to recursively source all sources and their sources etc etc. If you look at citing requirements for literature - MLA for instance - (which is legally as close as you can come since there is not a long history of software precedents in US case law) you would only be required to cite source you quoted. If one of your sources compiled knowledge from other sources, that's not your responsibility to cite. That said, I'm not a lawyer. And unless we have one that give us specific legal precedents or legal code, it's unlikely we'll get a proper, full legal opinion.

Also, this entire situation was handled fairly poorly, and well too publicly. I understand the desire to be sourced and cited, especially if people are blatantly ripping off your work, as was the case with at least 1 rom the Virtuous Team had taken down. Whether or not that is the case here, however, remains to be seen.

Even if it is shown that there is specifically Virtuous Team scripting, which was in Virus when Joel used that as his cited base, I'm not sure it's right, nor legal, for someone who specifically doesn't hold a copyright, patent, or trademark on their work to be invoking the DMCA (or whatever law they are invoking to have derivative works stripped down) and asking for the removal of alleged derivative works without proof. Open Source software in particular, it would seem likely to me the best you can require is someone to cite your work, rather than having it yanked, especially without a court order.

Joel did do a lot of work on this rom, so unless someone can point out something he used which is specifically un-cited, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If the Virtuous Team wants citings specifically on Joel's OP, I have no issues with them requesting that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RussianMenace:
Personally, I did not know the whole story regarding alleged transgressions, specifically if the only issue in question were the Virtuous scripts, that is why I did not want to make a judgment. Regarding citations, I will wholeheartedly agree with you. Having written a plethora of research papers in my time as an undergrad, and now grad school, citing a source of your source is redundant.

As such, the issue should be easily corrected (in private between the devs) with a simple citation and just moving on. Again, I would have to agree with you that "yanking" the rom would be a disservice to the dev and the community.

~cheers
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DustinBooyah:
The review for this rom that I did is still on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0vtp3vnC6s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
Wow I swear u guys right novels on This site.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
I can't claim to know all of the alleged transgressions either. I know only of the one specific thing mentioned from looking through the threads for Joel's other roms, rmk's recent posts and twitter feed, and the Virtuous Rom main page.

If there is more they are alleging, then it was done more privately than the posts made in the public forums, and I'm not privy to those. If there were others handled more privately, they should have been more discreet about all the public posts they did make.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] redsunrising:
Man discussions like these make me less sad about getting the iPhone 5 when it comes out
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ndaoud360:
Hey I was wandering they say 1080p video recording requires dual core. Is it the speed of dual core or actually the need of the dual cores cause since god mode will be getting us intense speed and bechmark tests and when we get overclocking we will have the speed of dual core or better. Would that mean we could get 1080p recording.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
I was under the impression the HTC Incredible's camera hardware limited us to 720p more so than the processor... is that not correct?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
If you don't jailbreak, you're right, you'll never run into developers having issues with mods on an iPhone.

On the other hand, if you get into the jailbreak scene there, I hardly think you'll be any better off with those devs as opposed to the Android devs. Hell, in fact, you might have more because there have been many instance making international news of Apple stealing your dev's work rather than other devs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RussianMenace:
Meh, only because 9 times out of 10 making lewd references towards ones mother while questioning their age and sexual orientation, all using bastardized version of the English language rarely gets anything accomplished.

Just saying. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
Ya i guess your right ha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ndaoud360:
Im not sure cause maybe ur right but a lot of people told me that we need dual core for 1080p to work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
Can u install different boot animation on this ROM cause I tried one did everything I was supposed to but it didn't work its the new Droid bionic boot animation found on droidlife.com
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
im starting to have a few issues after a week of running RLS3..

the homescreens have started to get very laggy on me, had a few freezes which led to a few hot reboots.. only thing ive done out of my normal was change the battery to a red one using UOT and edited my lockring in the fusion.apk with the m10 tools which i dont think would cause problems like that but just putting it out there just incase...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NYC Coyote:
I'm starting to get forceclosures on the android framework itself..... which then of course leads to other things force closing....

Of course this was also happening on the stock rom so my phone itself may just be going bad.... just don't understand why everything worked fine at first with this rom and it grew into this
[Droid Incredible Android Development] redsunrising:
After having the same issue with G's Uber ROM and now this I'm just done. Devs you guys do amazing things but I don't need any extra drama in my life
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
I think one of the issues was that 95% of the OP for this rom was copied and pasted from the virtuous OP. I'm guessing that's why the OP is now "under construction".
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IncredibleDoes:
Hey joel, you should add this to your build, it makes everything super smooth and perfectly fitted for our screens.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182262
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Coderedpl:
When going to edit a picture from gallery, clicking on effects, causes a force close of gallery. Tried it more than once. Same result
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCGHOST:
I had high hopes for this rom, but alas, neither version works for me. I did a clean install of both with no luck. Both caused constant lockups and force closes / restarts. Unless I missed something with regards to the install process, I cannot use either version. Its too bad I really liked what little I saw. If anyone has suggestions please let me know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TokedUp:
that sucks man. This Rom is where its at. Are you downloading the file on your pc? I had problems the one time I tried downloading it on the phone itself.

Wipe Data/Factory reset:3x

Wipe Cache partition: 3x

[under mounts and storage]

format boot: 3x

format system: 3x

format data: 3x

format cache: 3x

[under advanced]

wipe Dalvik cache: 3x

flash VR super wipe zip (below)

Boot Rom (let run its course for a few minutes). Add contacts and sync and apps.

boot into recovery, wipe cache: 3x and under mounts and storage: 3x

Reboot

boot into recovery once more and fix permissions. Reboot

After this you can flash netflix fix if you don't want 720p, because they dont play well with each other but Joel is getting them to be friends soon.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCGHOST:
I have the latest hboot, and I did move the file from pc to sd for install. I tried multiple times with wipes in between each still no go. It kept telling me I had low memory and would lock up. I tried using the tool to clean up the cache and move all apps to sd but it didn't help. I love sense and gingerbread I was so hoping it would work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erismaster:
I have no idea if this would work but maybe try using the ruu to go back to complete unrooted stock. Re root and then try to flash this rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
Yay for 1.5, working Chinese IME and no arrows on keyboard ftw!! You have no idea how excited I am for RLS 1.5 haha xD On another note, would the white overscroll glow be in everything? Only asking because on some things with a white background (Facebook, etc) the glow wouldn't be visible anymore :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
Does anyone want the paginated scrolling removed in the app drawer?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erismaster:
I do not personally. I like it. Keep it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
Alright ill make a mod to remove it the arrows removed on keyboard will also be a mod.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] o0 DIDDY 0o:
+1

*10char
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dmeadows013:
I personally would love to have it removed. Also, is there a possibility that you could make a quick setting to start ShootMe (Or another screenshot app) so that we could easily take screenshots without having to leave whatever we did?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jakewill:
Hey JoelZ - Thanks for the ROM, bro. It is excellent. It runs fast, smooth, and reliably.

These aren't requests, just bugs I have noticed:

1. Using the wifi hotspot app takes my laptop to a page where VZW asks me to pay extra to tether. I have done ##778 in the past to enter the "free" tethering username, but that doesn't seem to get me into EPST mode, now. As such, I simply use the Android Tether app that is no longer on the market, but out on Google as a Google Code Project. It works great. FWIW, I actually prefer the Wireless Tether app. I used to swear by the stock app, but with the stuff that VZW is trying to pull, I feel less "watched" using a 3rd party tethering app.

2. I think all releases have done this. I downloaded all my apps from the Android market and Amazon market, NOT using Titanium. I ran the Low Space wizard to move most of my apps to SD, which worked great. But when I reboot after having created shortcuts to the apps on my home screens, the apps show up with the "default" android app icon - similar to the one the android market uses, but not exact.

Again, thanks, man. These are no big deal, I just thought I'd let you know in case fixing them helps you fix something else.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gerodive:
I'd like to see it removed. Is there any way you could create a custom icon in the settings that has toggles for these kinds of options? (I'm thinking the way Skyraider does it for inspiration). Also, two questions.

1. How do we get the battery percentage in the status bar icon? I thought this was a pretty stock feature on ROMs now. Do I have to flash something or am I just missing it in the settings?

2. My phone now displays the icon for "4g LTE" in the status bar, although the incredible is (obviously) a 3G phone. It seems to be thinking 3G is 4G or something. Any thoughts or fixes?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erismaster:
If you go to the old thread there were a few battery mods posted. And 4G was put there on purpose.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
I like the idea of having a mod for the apps, I'd like for paginated scrolling to be removable :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
The 4g icon was done on purpose, I like it :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
rls1.5 is almost done just need to 0 level compress the rosie.apk and ill release
[Droid Incredible Android Development] o0 DIDDY 0o:
Hey Joel,

It would be cool if you would were able to change the greys to black on the lockscreen like Newtoroot did on his hybrid, it looks slick as hell.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shorty1993:
Thanks. That's basically what my assumption was but i tried a location that travel to regular which is around 10 miles from the house, soled limit 50mph, 2 redlights along the way. It gave me a 32m. Well that couldn't be minutes (correct minutes anyway) nor mileage. Thus i was a little insure. I believe that in areas like mine where its not a large city Google isn't as accurate when dealing with times based off miles factoring speed limits. Just my opinion based on it's notorious inaccuracies in eta. I know my foot isn't that heavy.

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Marcismo55:
Sweet. Thanks for the update
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Heres what is really Important:

Apache License 2.0

The preferred license for the Android Open Source Project is the Apache Software License, 2.0 ("Apache 2.0"), and the majority of the Android software is licensed with Apache 2.0.

GPLv2

While the project will strive to adhere to the preferred license, there may be exceptions which will be handled on a case-by-case basis. For example, the Linux kernel patches are under the GPLv2 license with system exceptions, which can be found on http://www.kernel.org

Everybody should read those and get familiar with them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
actually thats exactly whats causing your problem :D my fusion.apk is originally mx0ed which saves ram the m10 decoder doesnt mx0 compress the apks after you load them its zips them back up with a different kind of compression. Sorry
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
its already in :D looks awesome thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
well its not exactly the speed of the dual core its contributed by the camera and basically what the core itself can actually do our processor doesnt have the capability of 1080p hence we cant shoot 1080p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
Actually i gave credits to the whole unity team instead of just rmk...in virus original port he only gave credits to rmk and i have given credits to everyone virus cited in his original port but since i thought rmk was part of team unity i decided to give them all credit since they have a great rom going and theyve spent tons of work on it. Anyways end of discussion i dont want anymore conversation on this please
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
I personally find it very convenient to have a lot of roms use the same layout in the OP to do comparisons about features before I decide one one(s) I want to try. If you'd prefer de-standardizing the information in rom postings, that will only hurt us end users and our ability to find information on the roms available.

[Edited per Joel's request]

Thank you, Joel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
Noob question: I downloaded a custom boot animation and its on my SD card and when I go to cwmr and install zip from SD card it say compete but when i reboot its the same animation. Any help or ideas please? Thanks in advance
[Droid Incredible Android Development] intersysx:
You need to move it to data/local using root explorer or another program like it. It has to be named hTC_bootanimation.zip and make sure permissions are

rw-r--r--
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hightech316:
It's what pyramid rewind needed ! I installed and so far everthing is great and less lag . Now time for god mode
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
So I can't use clockwork mod recovery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
is mms working for anyone???? i cant seem to send pictures over text

on 3g or wifi
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
you have to manually replace the boot animation
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
toggle mobile networks in your pulldown menu off then on and see if that fixs your problem
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
I'm not saying having a standardized layout is a bad thing, it has nothing to do with that. It's that the vast majority of the old OP was literally copied and pasted word for word from the virtuous OP. Just an observation. I see this is a sensitive subject though, so that's all I'll say, I just wanted to clarify.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
ALRIGHT everyone STOP talking about it joelz stated he wanted nomore convorsation on this topic about RMK he has explained himself and also changing OP this is dead now so back to the REAL topic kingdom rewind!

ok so after i was having those issues i cleared cache and dalvik and seems to be working a bit better now well see after a while or days or w.e it takes
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rshannon:
mms isn't working for me either. not on kingdom or pyramid
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
nope didnt help
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
hmm i dont know what you guys would have to do then maybe joelz will know how to fix i see its a problem for a good amount of people but i havent had the problem yet
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
im reflashing
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/2...hrough-leaked-images-available-to-all-of-you/

Joel can u by any chance ask permission to put this as the next boot animation just a suggestion. I was going to do it for me but I cant.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
reflashed now works fine
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RussianMenace:
Looking at the source, they're all cwm-flashble zip. Should be able to just grab the 800x480 and flash. LINK

Edit: Not sure if the flashable files are made for ASOP or Sense, because boot animations are in two different places. So, YMMV.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
i just added a new bootanimation and i see this lol grr
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
current boot anim rocks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
Ha that's cool though was just a suggestion
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
yea umm anyone wanna try this for me?? http://www.multiupload.com/0GI0CNCE8E

it a mod for kingdom rewind rls3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
downloading ............what is it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
a ported landscape flyer rosie hopefully i did it right
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
oh ya im on it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
Just flash it or what
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
yea just flash it at your own risk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rshannon:
that didn't do it for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1107963:
Ohh yeah im flashing this... Report back later..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdog94:
sense wont start just FC over and over
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
thats weird it worked for evo 4g guys damn
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1107963:
Im on the same boat... FC Over and Over ...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
I second this.

Possibly the classiest loading screen I've seen. Looks very professional and well done.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
MMS works fine for me over 3G. Haven't tried WiFi.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] i5aac:
Also love the current boot animation...just my .02

Can't wait to get rotating rosie!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hightech316:
On the quick settings WiFi toggle , it states "on" or "off"

Would it be too much to have it display connection stats, ssid, strength,etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
I'm retarded I tried to flash the rosie but instead I reflashed the whole ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tribbey:
im ready for the "battery tweaks" your evo fans look very happy with em and also seen some good screenshots

haha woahh joelz did i just see what i thought i saw? i think the words are I TOLD YOU SO haha

im not being a **** its all in fun and games dont take it personal:p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
finnaly updated OP
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Utopia73:
is there anyway I can get rid of the transparent app drawer and notification background?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
if theres a will theres a way lol hold on
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
might either do a rebase on this build to the latest evo 3d ruu [will run as smooth as sensation roms] or just make a whole seperate rom based on the evo 3d ruu what do you guys think?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hightech316:
Whole seperate bro.

You are pushing roms out like crazy.

Are there any spots open on rewind team. I can send you my resume for a better idea of my skill set. Pm me if interested , I think I could bring a lot to table.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dreamsafari:
I love pyramid rewind and i'd love to have a tutorial for god mode on dinc. thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dreamsafari:
may i just ask u not to remove other locale from the apks? i'm fine reading english but the dialer needs chinese locale to recognize chinese names... and if i manually set locale, some apks will have both chinese and english and imo, it's ugly...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dlintz:
Is this ROM on release 3 or 4? The changelog in the OP says RLS4 but the download site lists a RLS 3 zip (Dinc 1).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] loudaccord:
I'm curious which Cam will be in RLS4? Camcorder fix??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Tada1096:
I know this was mentioned before but now I can find it. I can't get mms to work on WiFi or 3g. When I send or receive one it just times out sms fails. Anyone know of a fix.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Quantumrabbit:
So you just straight up flash Perfect Rosie?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fernando sor:
hey joel great rom, probably been mentioned but the notification .9png, (dont have the name memorized) is black with black text. if you want i can mod that either way for you. also i was able to get my themed market to flash by adding it to the rom and flashing that. for some reason 3d roms dont like some system mods tho i was able to flash a dfferent browser
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
thanks and could you please mod it lol?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fernando sor:
i will do it tonight
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fernando sor:
acually joel i guess its just handcent messages (or as far as i can tell) coming in black on black in the status bar pulldown. ill look it over tonight.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ndaoud360:
Hey Joel what's ur input on this could this be done. Because a long ago I was using someone's sense 3.0 ROM and 1080p recording was working but playback was not. So I played it on my computer and it was working perfectly
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Romparoo:
Actually I have had this problem with RLS1.7, 2, and 3 with Google Scoreboard notifications...the text is in black against the black pull down. This seems to be the only notification with this issue for me. If you fix great, if you don't then no biggie.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Utopia73:
Hey thanks man!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilstewie23:
So r we going to get the landscape rosie fixed or just a whole new ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
has anyone actually managed to install the perfectly fitted sense 3 rosie on my rom? does it work? i keep getting htc sense fc i have no idea why