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[EVO 4G General] Wishkah420:
Yes sprint can track who you call, what websites you goto, who you text and what you text among other things. It's called Carrier IQ. Every sprint phone has Carrier IQ however its supposedly disabled by default. Goto the Epic 4G forums and search Carrier IQ. Sprint claims they do it to better serve us as far as what features are used most and blah blah blah.

Rooting is legal and I have the documentation on my home computer, PM me if you want it.

On topic: you're being terminated for excessive roaming data, end of story, close the thread. Sucks but it happens, that's why its not a good idea to use apps like roam control

P.S. I read all 13 pages. ;-)

Sent from my frozen Syndicated Beast...
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
The sick part is they warn you via letter or phone call at least once and he decided to ignore it.

Just wants attention, thanks for causing the panic about rooting :rolleyes: lock please.
[EVO 4G General] 1Brite1:
Sorry, wrong. Call the number. Reread the thread. They told me they send out notices if you are roaming too much using your cell phone not data. Data control usage is sent to a special department. No warning. Even Sprint Customer Care cannot tell you.

Also, too many assumptions here again by the previous post. No Roam Control. Yes, I did try it many months ago. Didn't work. So never used it again. So, once again, another WRONG assumption.

Someday, something similar will happen to you. I am not just talking about business with Sprint. Just something that you KNOW is not right and you are NOT doing anything wrong or illegal and you get singled out. THEN you will know exactly what I am talking about. Until you go through it, I guess you can't fully understand. That is the sad part about humanity. Always judging. No understanding or compassion. Except for the FEW brave who have commented that they have experienced the same. I don't see anyone accusing them of lying/falsifying/making things up.
[EVO 4G General] Wishkah420:
I didn't say you used roam control, I was saying it was a bad idea in general... I was actually posting to validate your "Sprint can see everything" claim by pointing out the Carrier IQ. Not everyone one here is out to get you bro. ;-)

Sent from my frozen Syndicated Beast...
[EVO 4G General] flyboyjr:
unlimited

i thought you were on unlimited data
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Doesn't include unlimited roaming.
[EVO 4G General] ryandoubleu:
executives

try getting some better answers from upper level sprint employees. Whenever I have a problem with my phone or service I email the executives and seem to get better solutions/answers.

Here are the executive email addresses:

'jerry.adriano@sprint.com'; 'matt.carter@sprint.com'; 'jim.m.curran@sprint.com'; 'bryan.digiorgio@sprint.com'; 'kim.garvey@sprint.com'; 'shelly.r.hallier@sprint.com'
[EVO 4G General] 1Brite1:
Thank you very much! And thanks for not bashing. I hope these will help. Again, I will try that route and see what happens. It is just irritating that I have to put so much energy into this and is it all really worth it. I have enough going on in my life without this added onto to it. I am not here for attention or any type of head games. Just trying to find answers and hopefully solutions to what I have been going through. Hopefully your path will be a good one. I am just but one person. If more people are having the same problem like some other people have stated, then I at least feel that I am not going insane.

Have a great night.
[EVO 4G General] -Apollo-:
45 gigs? ROLMFAO lay off the porn dude!! 45 gigs good lord
[EVO 4G General] Hamspiced:
Prime example of TLDR.

I wish xda didnt have rules about flaming..

Listen, if you would of read.... I do not download things, nor do i stream content to or from my phone. There is odd issues involved here and i believe its due to A) The sprint tower in my area being down. B) To living in Michigan close to Canada. C) My phone going into Data Roaming because of A and B. And D) Magical Gypsies.
[EVO 4G General] cwbeasley:
And now I know...

Congrats, this is exactly why we are banned from using our direct email addresses to email out. You do realize that even if you email any of these addresses, they can't respond directly. Here's the reason why. I had no idea someone was dumb enough to post this on a public forum and not just PM (which isn't much better..) but wow. Again, considering the nature of this thread, I shouldn't be surprised.

"Hey, sprint cancelled my contract because I called lady's of the pole too much. Just wanted to pass that along." - a guy who knows a guy I know who shops at the same gas station when on vacation.
[EVO 4G General] Raheem387:
First off dude I don't know what the hell you where doing to use that many gigs and second 4G data is unlimited its not even tracked on your bill. Im sure sprint is keeping numbers on it but what your using is 3G data which falls under those guide lines of obsessive use in your contract I have used 3 evo's in the year that I have had this phone all rooted and I have never gotten told that they couldn't replace my evo due to it being rooted.
[EVO 4G General] Visaboy:
The problem here is that the OP was using roaming data.

Sprint offers unlimited 3G/4G Data, that doesn't mean roaming data is unlimited.

And if you are using some kind of custom rom, I would investigate first before using it.. you never know what someone could add to it and not tell you. ;)
[EVO 4G General] tx_dbs_tx:
As many have already said, Sprint cancelled the OP's service due to excessive data roaming. Period. As for the Rooting, monitoring, etc... nothing for anybody to be alarmed about and that isn't the reason the OP's service was cancelled.

The OP has made several contradictions in his posts and it's obvious to many of you as well. He openly admitted to using a Verizon PRL at one point. That's all I needed to hear. Another member asked how his battery life was... That's an excellent question and that would reveal the truth behind the "mysterious roaming data usage". I'm gonna assume the OP will chime in proclaiming good battery life... which we all know would not be possible with that much data transmission going on. If OP isn't able to find the culprit for all the data consumption then he has bigger problems and needs to stop wasting time whining here at XDA, looking for sympathy to this nonsense.

I call BS or somebody is sharing his data connection. The only other possible explanation would be a cloned device using a ton of data on his account. Unlikely.
[EVO 4G General] MCL1981:
It says they can't sue you for it. They can drop you, void your warranty, or make you life any other level of difficult all they want. You're using their network and they have every right to control what goes over it.

And to the guy who is using 40gb of data per month, you clearly don't have a clue what is going on with your life if you are using that much data and have no idea where or how. It is probably better you leave Sprint so you aren't messing up the network for the rest of us.
[EVO 4G General] LexLuger82:
That's crazy
[EVO 4G General] hellcatt:
the warranty that is voided by rooting is the manufacturers warranty.

non rooted htc device = htc warranty against manufacturer defects is valid

rooted htc device = htc warranty against manufacturer defects is no longer vaild

such as:

ford focus showroom specs = fords warranty against manufacturer defects is valid

ford focus w/motor replaced from a shelby gt = fords warranty against manufacturer defects is no longer vaild.

you have altered the way the manufacturer designed and built the item to operate therefore they cannot honor their warranty.

sprint store, best buy, radio shack have nothing to do with those warranties.

imperial ford/lincoln, carmax, joe shmos gravel parking lot auto center have nothing to do with those warranties
[EVO 4G General] ryandoubleu:
.....

If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you.

Also, if you were smart enough to google "sprint executive email" this is the first link to pop up http://consumerist.com/2007/02/sprint-ceos-phone-number-and-25-other-sprint-execs.html and yes it contains all of their email information on numerous other sites as well.

Maybe you should stick to helping rather than criticizing other people for posting information which is public already anyways.

Lastly, every time I have emailed the Executives, I have received a response from at least 1 of them (if not more). They usually set me up so executive escalations will get in touch with me and I hear from them the next business day.
[EVO 4G General] spider2346:
Man 45gb a month? Geeez.. I feel bad for ya that they canceled your account but then again that is a bit excessive. ;)
[EVO 4G General] mcgriff1985:
Its clear if you stream video that's a huge hit to your data 1 movie is a gigabyte of data maybe more
[EVO 4G General] hellcatt:
ok so he streams at least 1 movie a day. who the hell does that on a phone?
[EVO 4G General] Monkey Pox:
I thought that unlimited data was only on 4g and that 3g has a cap.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Not since they started charging the $10 / month for premium data which started with the Evo.
[EVO 4G General] kdub83:
There is a Cap on 3G @5GB regardless of the $10 fee. No cap on 4G
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Nope, it's not.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Me. I start watching a movie every day at lunch, and then finish it on the drive back to the office (I am a land surveyor. My crew has an hour drive every day to and from our work area. I don't drive if I can help it...and since I'm the chief, I can always help it). But my data usage is nowhere near 45 gigs a month. I don't think that streaming movies uses as mush data as was posted above. That, or sprint is severely under-metering my usage.
[EVO 4G General] qipengart:
Welcome to Virgin Mobile perhaps?
[EVO 4G General] GaryJ51:
Let's see ... avg. 3g speed on Sprint is about 200kbps ... and we're talking about 45 Gigs in one month ... carry the 1 ... does something seem a bit strange???

Of course we need to clarify if we mean gigabits or gigabytes for those who are doing the math.

His opening post did say 45GB which is Gigabytes.

http://www.numion.com/calculators/time.html

According to this calculator downloading 45 Gigabytes at 256 Kbps wpould take 390 hours which is 16.25 days or 32.5 days downloading 12 hours/day.

He's a better man than I am, for sure. :eek:
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Not everyone gets such low speeds. Most areas aren't having the "over load" issue.
[EVO 4G General] discodecepticon:
I have been hacking my phones (centro, Pre then evo) for years on sprint, and I have NEVER had a problem with them. at one point I hit 32GB of data in a month using tethering on my Pre without paying for it(I had hacked it in) and I never got so much as a letter.
[EVO 4G General] culua:
Reading your long ass reply putting me to sleep. Well if they are smart what they did to my friends tmobile account. He used 5gig a week so tmobile slow down his speed but it renew every month. So everytime he go over the cap limit they slow down his 4g instead kicking him off contract.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Roaming usage is different, they have to pay for using another's network. Which is why it's limited.

That's called throttling, Sprint doesn't throttle.
[EVO 4G General] culua:
So they can they legaly do that? Or he should complain.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Legally cut you out of your contract when you abuse the roaming? Absolutely, it's in the contract.

Also, if you're getting 3g speeds while roaming then you're using Verizon's PRL which is against your contract [and possibly illegal] as well.
[EVO 4G General] GaryJ51:
Ok - so even at 1mbps that's still over 6 hours a day for 32 days of 1 mbps use.

I want to buy his battery, it must be pretty stout. :D
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I wasn't saying the abuse isn't obvious, it is.

Also, remember there's Wimax which can get up to the 8 - 12mbit /s in a great area.
[EVO 4G General] robhep3:
Unless the engine is a crate motor from Ford Factory Performance which carries a 3 year Unlimited Mileage Warranty against materials and workmanship defects... But I digress.
[EVO 4G General] Tekn010933:
Just slightly over dude.
[EVO 4G General] Tekn010933:
Yeap! So you better hurry and put that "S" back "on?" :]
[Galaxy S I9000 General] manishnraj:
the update was good but camera was not working

again after flashing the camera worked but the brightness of screen was very low

and again after flashing for third time the screen gets black need to restart

the main thing I not found was the change in colour of battery when it is low

signal indicator is not green

it's better to wait for a stable update
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bala_gamer:
Dont u guys ever read the discussion in the relevant threads????
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gagan007:
relevant threads run into scores of pages which is sometimes very difficult for a late entrant to filter through. what's harm in creating a separate thread for separate topic?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] KonfusedGeek:
The scores of pages will help you gain more knowledge about your phone and will help you in making better decisions as you will have more data to analyze before making a decision.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ronhoover88:
Well if atleast xda realize this mess and provide us a separate section...then all these threads would end up in the general section of I9003...hope they realize!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1083499
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kkrraazzyy:
Dude dont make the seperate thread for a small query

Offtopic : @ ronhoover

Yeah dude the userbase is increased now at lst we deserve a new section
[Galaxy S I9000 General] manishnraj:
sorry for that
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xda2jojo:
....no harm, nothing at all, the non dev mod can always locked, merged, etc cluttered or "redundant" thread.

Noob is always a noob....and they always need help.

The best thing to do either ignore the thread or give him/her the direct link.

Help them...and don't be a mod.

*Someday that noob become dev expert...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] manrock111:
lol this is called evolution.
[Atrix 4G General] DarkRyoushii:
Hey there,

I was curious to know if Motorola has done anything that could optimize (read: cripple) the Tegra 2 processor and if the near future custom ROMs will be able to further optimize (read: fix) them?

I ask because I frequently watch reviews of the ASUS Transformer, a tegra 2 powered tablet with 10.1" screen and it flies with honeycomb! I also read somewhere about tegra 2 possibly powering future Netbooks with Windows 8 and wonder why the hell my phone feels like any other phone!

It's fluid, but so is the nexus S

It's fast, but so is the SGS I

I can only hope at this stage for custom ROMs (specifically AOSP Vanilla ROMs or CyanogenMod 7) to make this phone shine as at the moment I am actually quite disappointed.

Thanks in advance

- DarkRyoushii

EDIT: A second after hitting the post button I realized I was in general and that it should be in Q&A. Mental blank sorry and so mod's can please move the thread if they don't see fit, otherwise it may cause some nice general conversation :P inb4 flame war
[Atrix 4G General] krad54:
Well, there's not that many apps that can utilize the full power of the tegra 2, but if you check out the tegrazone games, you'll see what the processor's all about. Also, the atrix bootloader will be unlocked soon, allowing for even more optimization and speed with custom roms.

Sent from my Gingerblurred Atrix
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
To answer your question, no, they have not.

However, in the gingerbread update we'll be seeing performance boosts up to 20% (fps wise). So they're optimizing it more and more with each update. I expect it still wont be fully optimized in 2.3.3. 2.3.4 will probably touch it up a bit. And if motorola decides to bring ice cream sandwich to the atrix, I expect it will be fully optimized in that update. If they decide not to, it will still run pretty dam well on gingerbread, and we can use custom bootloaders and kernels by then (since moto is unlocking the bootloader in 2.3.3.).

Regards
[Atrix 4G General] kdoodle:
it kind of depends what you intend to do sometimes.

tegra 2 AFAIK isn't completely adobe flash

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/15/qua...re-tegra-2-for-flash-content-supremecy-video/

but tegra 2 is optimized for games that were made using nvidia's gaming engines, which look amazing and run incredibly smooth.

until apps can take full advantage of dual core, i doubt it'll ever be optimized
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
XDA Mods keep kicking out all the Devs, or at least it seems that way to me, from the outside looking in

I have seen it mentioned over and over how the Epic section is dead, and has so few developers compared to other phones

It seems that the rules of XDA are setup in a way that causes a vast majority of Epic developers to get their worked banned or blocked from XDA

It is hard to build a community when you cant link to anyone else and you get in trouble if you use anyone else's work

I have never understood the fighting over using others works in your own development, after all, I thought that was the whole point of open source, to build a better build upon the work of those that came before you

It seems, that for whatever reason, the XDA mods have decided to take the Steve Jobs approach to Android Epic development, OR maybe I just dont get what the issue is

Am I just being naive, missing some key viewpoint, or does this go on on most Android sites?

I am not trying to be a PITA, I am just trying to understand why over the last few months, the Epic Development community has suffered extensive bans to their work on XDA

And even more confusing, is the lack of a clear explanations as to WHY, as it seems everything goes on behind a walled garden, and if anyone asks, they get the hammer as well.

It is frustrating to see a note pop up that says.. thread closed/work banned, but if you try to find out why, you get run out of town, when as an outside person, you are just hoping for a clear explanation

such as..

this is the rule, this is how it was broken
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
It's fairly simple. Follow the rules of the forum. It's not a difficult task.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Nope ... all it needs is
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I try, but sometimes the rules are enforced one way, sometimes another, and when they get broken, it would be VERY helpful if it was posted up as to why/how such as, This the rule, this is how it was broken, in a public manner to help others avoid the same mistake

It is frustrating when you have been following someones work for a while, then bam, banned, and you cant find out why

Was it bad code?

Was it something personal?

Was it just an XDA rule, but otherwise all is good with the build/patch/mod?

It may be as minor as something in the way it was posted, or as major as hacker code in the build, but if it is not posted up publicly why, it is hard to know if you need to move to a new build, or look elsewhere for you fav work
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
You nailed it! Thank you!!!! I don't care who you are, if you want to act like a kid or little brat, take your stuff and hit the road.
[Epic 4G General] haas599:
This sums up my feelings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-2RqmWcad0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
The flow goes as this:

Bonsai was banned from XDA for linking to outside forums which is in violation of rule 11. Using any bits from Bonsai, especially ones that were only available from their "early-access" forum where donations are required, is against XDA rules.

AA(Android Anonymous), used the kernel from one of these "early access" donation up-front releases here in a release on XDA, which is against forum rules.

The moderation staff reached out to them, and requested that they remove the Bonsai bits so that they wouldn't be in violation anymore.

BUT, for whatever reason, Android Anonymous has chosen not to comply with forum rules and has chosen to leave the site voluntarily.

If you want senior input and a perspective, read this post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14997738&postcount=89

No one was banned. Android Anonymous has chosen to leave.

Here is your full disclosure, I don't mind answering questions.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
EDIT* I have changed my position. Mammon should stop being a tool.
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
It's not a witch hunt. The XDA mod team consists of a handful of people with interests in either Windows Mobile or Android who volunteer their insight and input to help maintain an active community. We're unable to check every thread one-by-one, and we usually only action on reported posts by users.

All marcusant had to do was remove the bits in violation, and the thread would've been reinstated. He chose not to, and instead chose to leave XDA.

No one forced his hand, or forced him out.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I understand now, Sorry for not knowing. I assumed it was all free just on another site.

Damn it Mammon, Why do you have to ruin it for everyone!!!!!!!
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
THANKS!!!

I appreciate the info, and it helps a lot when trying to choose what software to use to know the reasons behind the actions that were taken by XDA mods

I kept seeing lots of conflicting rumors and such, so official reasoning, for me at least, enables a more knowledgeable decision making process

When you only get half the picture, and lots of conflicting info, it can lead to a very skewed impression, that may not reflect how things actually are

Again, thanks for clearing that up for me!!
[Epic 4G General] bricky23:
Thank you for this. If this would have been put out from the beginning, alot of negativity would have been avoided.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
It also didn't help that previous moderators were members of a specific group and acted unprofessionally when moderating pages.

It seems like I'm seeing more senior mods around here and that's a good thing. Maybe all the fighting, whining, attacking, etc. will stop and peoples' questions will be answered instead of chided.
[Epic 4G General] haas599:
Thanks for the clarification. I was just assuming the rules were ridiculous before, now I know it as fact. Keep up the great work!
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Let's be clear here. No member of team Bonsai is banned on XDA. All Bonsai team members have good standing accounts. The Bonsai development threads were locked because bonsai was not in compliance with rule #11 (linking to an external website). At no point has bonsai ever violated the GPL. The Bonsai project Github has always been public, and was in the Wiki untill someone deleted everything bonsai from it. The misinformation here is really bad.
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
It was in reference to latest kernel and not up to date link on google code for gpl compliance, ext4 modules etc. Plus, the gpl bit was mostly in reference to no link in the AA thread to any source. Not specific to bonsai itself.

Apologies about the banned devs part, meant to say ROM. Post edited for clarification.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
That still doesn't make sense...early access or not, the moment AA got their hands on the code they have full right to redistribute the code under the GPL.

Its not like AA themselves are breaking the rule in question, If someone buys an epic and then makes a dump of the rom, is he breaking the rules because they paid for the rom but are redistributing it for free?
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
This reminds me when I used to "dev" on some small online game and people would cry and leave over simple rules. Back then I was only about 15 though. Lol
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
The latest kernel is from the EF02 leaked samsung test build. Samsung didn't release any source. The ext4 modules are the same ones used in previous builds.

There is clearly no violation here.
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
Well, there was no way to note what you just posted in the AA thread before as there was no clarification on where the modules came from.
[Epic 4G General] SINNN:
I hate the fact that high horse riding trolls abuse their "friend is mod, I can haz u banned now!" powers. They annoy me really bad.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Everyone knows where they came from.