yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
Actullay people like yourself is why we leave, no buddys that jump in play police and spout ignorance , you dont know what your talking about or who your talking to. I have been part of xda sense the htc tmobile mda , i previous to the atrix never so much as had a disagreement with members here. The market is now saturated, and the quality of information suffers, this is enevitable with popularity, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone is granted the right to contribute and or comment. However most people refrain from commenting just to read there own posts, and most people that comment about cleanliness of posts and concerns about children have a mental capacity above those of a child. Excuse my ignorance if you are indeed challenged through no fault of your own. On the other hand if this is not the case than you need several reality checks, one who your are , not only in relvience to this site but also as a realistic member of society. Two if you indeed have a child that is gifted and devloping at the age of 12, his critical thinking is obviously beyond yours already and certainly capable of viewing a site such as this without a mental brake down due to a non positivecomment
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
if he is not than the internet is clearly a place he is not ready for, obioulsy much like your self , as while i see no reason to curse or be rude, the internet is not a happy place to send people that do not have a firm grasp on reality. It is a dangerous place and xda and negative comments here are the least of your concern when raising a chid
[Atrix 4G General] thebeardedchild:
So of course we'll probably be getting CM, MIUI, etc. etc. in the future, but what can we expect as far as custom kernels go? Do those just come along with those other ROMs, or do other Devs make those for us to use? Because I would think I would want to wait for a kernel before I flash a ROM...
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
Custome kernels are both made by developers and necessitates of roms not base of off standard builds
[Atrix 4G General] thebeardedchild:
Alright I gotcha. So we could soon start seeing standalone kernels as well as Tom specific kernels all around the same time we start to get any ROMs at all?

Sent from my Motorola Atrix using the XDA App
[Atrix 4G General] hem.acharya:
Extra RAm

I am really excited about this.. waiting for the july update and the devs releases of custom ROMs

i am more excited about the release of extra RAM memory ( which previously was aloocated to webtop and not usable in the phone ).. the total memory now we have in atrix is 818 MB if i m not wrong
[Atrix 4G General] nexxusty:
The RAM you think is MIA is absolutely not dedicated to the Webtop. Where did you come up with this idea?

User submitted questions, 3rd one down.

Please don't spread misinformation. This is a huge pet peeve of mine.
[Atrix 4G General] hem.acharya:
i think i read somewhere before.. so the total RAM we have is just 818MB rest is used by the Android system?
[Atrix 4G General] ranova:
Was reading this on Engadget and going through the comments, theres a war with Designgears currently in the comments, haha:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/24/...hack-it-up-today-or-wait-f/#comment-234122753
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
lol love it
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:
Didn't the SGS2 come with an already unlocked BL? This dude has no room to talk
[Atrix 4G General] demandarin:
Just upgraded to Atrix, from Att Tilt2, days ago

Wow. I have been away from xda for some time now. I recently just got my Moto Atrix days ago. Coming from an outdated HTC Tilt2, this is one helluva upgrade. I was running dual boot on my older device with android. So this is my first Android OEM phone and I'm luvn it. Especially now from hearing this great news about bootloader unlocked and possible update to gingerbread with unlocked bootloader also. I read thru all 25 pages of this thread right now. Very good stuff and entertaining. As far as dev. Beef goes, people should just chill out and work together.

On another note, glad to be back on xda again and can't wait to see what bada$$ mods/tweaks n roms devs. make for the Atrix. Now I need to update my sig. To add my new Atrix to it. ;-). Glad to still see xda going hard at developing still. The best mobile/ modding site by far.
[Atrix 4G General] Master Melab:
Since you guys needed a specific bootloader to do this, does this mean that the bootloader is signed and signature-checked by the hardware?
[Atrix 4G General] kakwvu:
After unlocking, I lost my APN and my home key stopped working. What's up with the home key?
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
It wipes your /data to where it re runs you through the motoblur setup. But when you start up you can select either the motoblur setup or the launcher. Sense on the motoblur setup you can't go home to skip out of it, it is running in the background so you can't use the home button. I also know for me I couldn't get passed the setup when selecting motoblur on start up. From then on things got messed up and it wouldn't boot up. So I flashed back to stock, re flashed the unlock sbf, and went straight into fastboot and flashed the HK 2.3.4 dev build.

Now things are going GREAT:D
[Atrix 4G General] Mr. Clown:
Can we stop the bickering please. Another moderator already posted a friendly warning on the thread.

Stay on topic.
[Atrix 4G General] zoso28:
I only recently got into the android OS and am playing catch-up after years addicted to a blackberry, but the potential was obvious as soon as I got my hands on a galaxyS. Then a couple weeks ago I got an atrix despite the locked bootloader, and this news comes along and I almost passed out. I thought it was gonna be months before it was cracked.

Tweaking a captivate was fun, but tweaking a dual core GB atrix is gonna be rediculous. Thanks to all the devs here and I can't wait to play with all the new ROMs that'll be coming in the next couple months. Now I just have to teach myself everything there is to know about android. :D
[Atrix 4G General] eval-:
Yes, exactly.

002FF8F0 04 2E 4F 3D 4D 6F 74 6F 72 6F 6C 61 20 49 6E 63 ..O=Motorola Inc
002FF900 2C 20 4F 55 3D 4D 6F 74 6F 72 6F 6C 61 20 50 4B , OU=Motorola PK
002FF910 49 2C 20 43 4E 3D 48 41 42 20 43 41 20 34 39 35 I, CN=HAB CA 495
002FF920 4C 1B D8 C6 68 53 23 46 01 00 04 39 4F 3D 4D 6F L...hS#F...9O=Mo
002FF930 74 6F 72 6F 6C 61 20 49 6E 63 2C 20 4F 55 3D 4D torola Inc, OU=M
002FF940 6F 74 6F 72 6F 6C 61 20 50 4B 49 2C 20 43 4E 3D otorola PKI, CN=
002FF950 43 53 46 20 43 41 20 34 39 35 2D 31 3B 20 53 4E CSF CA 495-1; SN
002FF960 3D 34 36 36 33 02 00 00 03 01 00 01 00 80 DE E8 =4663...........

Is still at the end of the BL CG. The three keys there are those used by AT&T phones, it is pretty likely boot ROM still validates bootloader's signatures. It's just that this bootloader checks (something.. a fuse?) and then doesn't signature check boot.img or any other partition anymore, after "fastboot oem unlock" has succeeded.
[Atrix 4G General] FabricioGS:
Noob question: is there any hipotetical way to flash an AT&T bootloader or "match" it's signature into an international/other operator Atrix so we could also use the pudding method to unlock our phones?

I know GB will theoretically bring bl unlockable to everybody, blablabla, but what if it doesn't? Also I'm used to test ROMs on my old Xperia X10 (even the more unstable ones) and I'm dying to try 2.3.4 on my phone, I really don't want to wait another month or so.
[Atrix 4G General] nekrosoft13:
Unlocked bootloader for real?
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
have you NOT read anything on any of the Atrix forums in the last week?
[Atrix 4G General] nekrosoft13:
Nope, sorry. Trying to collect some info, hard to do on tiny screen
[Atrix 4G General] davideholland:
Thanks Deb's for all the hard work.
[Atrix 4G General] NewAtrix:
Great news
[Atrix 4G General] Infected24:
Is AT&T going to release this update?

Cheers
[Atrix 4G General] joshyy_rey:
Off topic but love south park lol. My clue is raging too!
[Atrix 4G General] holtenc:
this is great news and all.. but everybody is cheering and horraying as if it's a done deal. Keep in mind that it works on dev beta versions... it wont necessarily work on the OTA update from ATT. Like OP said, it's up to the carriers now.

Not trying to be a troll or party pooper, believe me, I want this just as bad as everyone else. Just keeping things within the realms of reality.
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
my raging clue went from raging hard to a semi
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
Isn't Kenn's atrix a retail one?
[Atrix 4G General] Ratchet556:
It works on kenneth's who afaik dosent have a dev atrix
[Atrix 4G General] darkamikaze:
Gotta love the fact these exciting stuff shows up when I'm never at home.great stuff. Hope it comes soon!

Xda app via atrix
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
I think it's a fair trade unlocked bootloader no more warranty, I'll take it! :-D
[Atrix 4G General] LayzeeEyez:
Wooooooooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
if all else fails and the OTA GB update doesn't have it... by that point I think it'd be green-light okay for ken to released the leaked build he was on, if anything so we could just unlock the BL and then SBF to a newer one. just speculation.
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
I really hope we dont have to queue up the Hitler Reacts video
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
My thoughts exactly! Once 2.3.3 is out he can release it if need be :)
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
I will be throwing an atrix unlock boot loader party with hot plates , rack of cookies and beer
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
we need to retweet article so whole world knows that Atrix is still alive, its alive!
[Atrix 4G General] VeNuMuS:
Athena has but her bussom away. Apollo has lifted his skirt. The bootloader has been unlocked.

Sent from my Chuck Norris powered BlueMystblurred Atrix

\m/0_0\m/
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
we need the beta build NAOW!!!!! so we can start porting CM7 and MIUI
[Atrix 4G General] darkamikaze:
Yeah I hope we can make use of time if we can with these builds. : x hope the deva with leaks are on it!

Xda app via atrix
[Atrix 4G General] joshyy_rey:
I still can't believe moto listened .... I take back all my mean words :)
[Atrix 4G General] CinderWild:
Wow this great phone is about to get a hell of a lot greater... I hope!
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
i'd kill for CM7 on my atrix, but i def would settle for MIUI
[Atrix 4G General] hayspat:
@kennethpenn, please share your beta build to porting CM7 and MIUI.

I cant wait for running CM7 on my atrix
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
designgears tweeted this

@DesignGears

DesignGears

@bgnagie even if the atrix bootloader is unlocked it's a tegra2, and they are crap. It won't be unlock either... get and sgs2 or wait

time for eat crow
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
absolutely no one in the atrix dev forum here gives a **** about designgears anymore.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Will believe it will be unlockable when retail update is released. Beta builds are very prone to change before going live in all software. Great news, but I'll wet my pants when my phone actually has bootloader unlocked.

Beamed in from WinBorg 4G via XDA Premium app
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
+1 DG is a donation whore IMO.
[Atrix 4G General] joshyy_rey:
He's just mad he gave up on the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
As he stated before, he will not, do to the request of the leaker.
[Atrix 4G General] franciscojavierleon:
just posted this in the moto forum with a link to ken's page so he gets the traffic.

let's wait for the reaction
[Atrix 4G General] toughbax:
Has ken confirmed which beta version this worked on? 2.3.3 or the 2.3.4? He said he figures we will get 2.3.3 first right?
[Atrix 4G General] JayRolla:
OMG this is great info.

What about the bootloader ransom money!! I say we donate to the guy that started the petition and got the ball rolling for this bootloader nonsense.
[Atrix 4G General] nalomo:
+ 1
[Atrix 4G General] Gr8Danes:
That's an idea. I would possibly be up for that.
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
he said 2.3.3 on the briefmobile aticle
[Atrix 4G General] eval-:
Perhaps save your money for the first devs to get the stablest, fastest ROMs with full-featured recovery partitions? Or kick a few bucks to Edgan for his investment, and effort on 2nd-init:

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=3948921

PS. I have tweaked 2nd-init to work on HKTW Gingerbread, so those who don't want to void warranty (and can live without a custom kernel, unless/until someone fixes kexec) should be able to run new ROMs on GB without fastboot oem unlock...
[Atrix 4G General] hayspat:
Ah, I was excited when i read :) I see, thanks kennethpenn for informations.
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
kenn should atleast hand the build he is got to someone who can work on porting the unlock over just incase. this is a eat thing to loose, we need a safety!
[Atrix 4G General] Gutterball:
You never know he could have done that already. We wouldn't know because that wouldn't be something you would wanna advertise!
[Atrix 4G General] toughbax:
I like that idea, but maybe splitting it between all the devs that have continued to work on the atrix without giving up (edgan, eval, ken, nfhimself, tenfar, etc).

Even if not directly responsible for unlocking to bootloader they still stuck around and kept giving us something to be excited about.
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
i really hope so!
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
christ almighty, I don't even get a reference /offended/
[Atrix 4G General] jruweaver:
You're right there it says etc.
[Atrix 4G General] Gutterball:
This guy must work for AT&T lol :D
[Atrix 4G General] G1-8701:
Wooooooooooo!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
:( I'm offended for you, too.
[Atrix 4G General] toughbax:
You were on the list, spell check must have realized it was a mistake though. :)

kidding of course, incase my sarcasm doesn't come across
[Atrix 4G General] lesonal:
Hmm now that I think about it we are getting to happy.

Kenn has a leak dev build . That build might not have been intended to see the lights of users. Hmmm
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
this was already disscuss, and is assume if that dosnt make it to the last build kenn will more than likely hand the beta build to someone who is capable of porting the unlocker

btw my statement is only an assumption!
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
It is my understanding that Motorola intends to allow "fastboot oem unlock" on all Gingerbread builds at least for AT&T. This isn't a developer build. It's for retail devices.
[Atrix 4G General] ceo.mtcl:
Just give it to me privately and lemme leak it. I'll take the blame. Lol
[Atrix 4G General] ricko2169:
Does that mean the OTA is not that far away?

BTW has the peformance improved Ken?
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
If you read BM, you'll know the update is scheduled for July at the moment. :) Not far at all.
[Atrix 4G General] silentecho13:
If I can ask, is it speculation that it will be released in July, or was it confirmed by a rep somewhere?

Is there a possibility for an earlier release?

I searched but can't seem to find an answer lol.

Thanks in advance!
[Atrix 4G General] joe ferreira:
I want to add Sogarth to this list of devs to thank.

Your hacks to webtop have drastically improved my device.

I can not wait to see what you can do with a unlocked bootloader.

I will be fully dedicated to helping devs like sogarth to port moto webtop to other roms like CM7
[Atrix 4G General] yeeson:
very good！
[Atrix 4G General] josuetenista:
Just sold my atrix yesterday and bought an htc inspire only because onf MIUI and cm7. Tomorow will buy again an atrix. Anyone interested on my inspire? Lol
[Atrix 4G General] Athailias:
Sheesh I lose power for a few days and moto unlocks the bootloader...

Wouldnt it be possible to pull out the unlock portion of kenneth's sbf like people have pulled out the radio? If I am way off, or giving away secrets, my appologies :P
[Atrix 4G General] azzaj:
Today, my car blew its gearbox, my wife left me, my dog died, i got evicted, i lost my job and then this news.

i love my life :D
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
Really got to thank eval. Eval is the one who looked through codegroup 42 on the Gingerbread SBF to determine this based off of the Motorola post on the forums yesterday.
[Atrix 4G General] Athailias:
Do we "really" have to thank eval? J/K

*classroom voice* thank you eval-
[Atrix 4G General] Ciloteille:
lawls

Lol I just ass ended some guys poor mini van with my nice sentra spec-v type r.... lame... but atleast insurance buys me a new one. And all while reading this. I felt it was almost worth it. :/

yes reading ans driving is awesome. Ask the Trimet driver he will vouch for me. :D
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
Lol I started a thread on the moto forum for eval for pres
[Atrix 4G General] samcripp:
and the night just got better, hulu plus for android is out and about http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/hulu-plus-for-android-is-available-now-if-you-can-install-it/
[Atrix 4G General] KefkaticFanatic:
That's because everyone is going to ship you pudding instead ;)
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
I will take the pudding instead of thanks, thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] SS2006:
CYanogenMod7 on atrix..could it BE
[Atrix 4G General] mpalatsi:
How did you obtain the update prior to everyone else?
[Atrix 4G General] Swiftks:
Ken's had a beta version given to him for a while now... glad you decided to join the rest of us in the here and now. :)
[Atrix 4G General] xandr115:
Great news! Threw out my back today but this makes me smile :-D
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
I hope this is a joke
[Atrix 4G General] Mgamerz:
Praise the lord!

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G General] :
We dont know the test build you have is what will be released to us, we hope it is. All we know is your leak contains a magical unlockable bootloader. Isnt the money pot going to the first person to provide an ulockable bootloader on the Atrix.:confused: Wouldnt that be you and/or your friend the original leaker.? lol maybe if he sees $$$ we wont mind so much.:D Haha. Just sayin.
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
LOL your sig is awesome xD
[Atrix 4G General] Vulgrim:
I wouldn't see a problem in releasing the leaked builds that they were able to obtain which allows unlocking of the bootloader "AFTER" of course the initial final 2.3.3 OTA update was released even if AT&T or Motorola were to change their minds. All in all I would suspect a 100% unlocked bootloader that's unless they decide not to release the leaked builds.
[Atrix 4G General] joshyy_rey:
In the article it says he's confirmed with representives that it be kept with the final release...
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
How long would a cm7 port take?
[Atrix 4G General] live_free:
CM7 +OVERCLOCKING! *Chants*
[Atrix 4G General] bearsfan172:
Will a CM7 port be necessary? With an unlocked bootloader, I would imagine that there's a good chance the CM7 team will pick this up and create an official ROM for it. I can't think of a good reason why they wouldn't want to...
[Atrix 4G General] racca:
To date, there has never been a device with MIUI but without CM. Take a hint!
[Atrix 4G General] live_free:
The new MIUI looks damn nice, I cannot wait for it. :)
[Atrix 4G General] t0dbld:
Lol I can't sop laughing, not only did you guys for months have a gingerbread rom that you couldn't root when kholk even caved in and told you how but on top of it it had oem unlock in it and you didn't even know untill you were tipped off? Wtf were you 6 guys doing with your super secret sbf LOL anyhow horray for moto, although at this point im dissapointed they beat us to it :-(
[Atrix 4G General] lfventura:
That is great news!

Lets hope this comes in the final version to the customers, and for all customers. Not only the AT&T ones. Anyone checked if the Photon bootloader is unlockeable? :P
[Atrix 4G General] karnovaran:
Really cool.. this would be the first time I've ever considered switching to AT&T.

Hope the Atrix is on the CM train soon.. the more the merrier.
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
really? then dont switch to att and use some other carrier and unlock it like i did lol
[Atrix 4G General] Mgamerz:
People who are asking for kenneth's build should look here, it's located in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1056714
[Atrix 4G General] karnovaran:
Hmm? The Atrix is only useful on AT&T in the US (i do use 3g). Being able to jump around carriers like in Europe would be great, but that's not the reality here.
[Atrix 4G General] Tennis11:
What are some of the things that can be expected of these roms. Besides being fast as hell and better battery life.

Never live in the past but always learn from it.
[Atrix 4G General] tsouza:
Stability, usability, eye candy...
[Atrix 4G General] Mgamerz:
Hopefully CRT animation!!! !*%(#*%*#!

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
[Atrix 4G General] shinewithme:
I already have this on option on 2.2.2 version just press the power button while holding volume down...then keep pressing down and you will get a few more options including fastboot.
[Atrix 4G General] Tennis11:
Any chance we could see a rom that makes it so my wifi doesn't disconnect every couple minutes? That's really my only problem with the phone now.

Never live in the past but always learn from it.
[Atrix 4G General] NguyenHuu:
haha you dont understand what this is. fastboot mode is normal to have, we all have it, but the unlock part is not. you need to be in fastboot mode in order to run unlock. but you cant run the command unless the bootloader is unlockable.
[Atrix 4G General] thegregulator:
I think he means the animation from gingerbread when you turn the screen on/off. It looks like an old tv when it is turned off.

Edit: I understand what you mean. I'm a dummy. It's late and I'm going to bed.
[Atrix 4G General] shinewithme:
Truuuuu....I didn't want press anything else, didn't want to mess up my phone...but yea I understand now
[Atrix 4G General] thebeardedchild:
So I've been away from my previous XDA all day...and I see this thread, along with this Pudding one in the Dev forum. I'm confused, and reading through the threads confuses me more...What exactly is the breakthrough that happened? This guy claims that the test builds of our 2.3.3 (2.3.4?) update have unlockable bootloaders, and the pudding thread guy has picture "proof" of this? I've been seeing some people with reservations that this is only on these beta builds and we won't get them in the final version probably?

I understand even after the OTA goes live, we are unable to receive these unlockable builds due to legal boundaries... Yet I've noticed other beta type SBFs floating around the forum...

Can someone just explain to me what exactly the deal is here, and should I be excited to perhaps use MIUI or CM7 or other sweet Android things now?
[Atrix 4G General] thegregulator:
This is what you should be excited about:

http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-atrix-4g-bootloader-unlocked-with-android-2-3-update
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
i thought tmobile still got 3g at least. all i do is text on my phone so it doesnt matter. my bill is only $15 a month ;D I live in a college town, wifi everywhere.