yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet Android Development] adam714:
No, I'm on the latest illuminate.. my original question was what were the differences, I was thinking of switching to flashback as it seems updates are more current.
[G Tablet Android Development] seymour_butts:
no.. when i reboot it goes to regular boot.. it just gets stoped at the birds...

i just nvflashed TnT 1.2-4349 recovery ROM...

gonna try reflash this ROM again using clockwm
[G Tablet Android Development] nunjabusiness:
A very good idea. You will not be disappointed. It is my daily driver and runs everything I need.
[G Tablet Android Development] seymour_butts:
ok.. figured out... when i was using nvflash to restore it was restoring tnt 1.1 and not 1.2...

and to make it go to 1.2 i cant flash it using cwm... i had to use standard recovery, meaning putting the file as update.zip.

after that i flashed cwm 3.0.2.8, just in case, and then flash this ROM...

booting sucess!!! testing now :)
[G Tablet Android Development] 10roller:
tv shows stream does not work, not sure if its the rom/kernel. or maybe the flash app that came with the rom. but app can not load the show names or anything, just says "please wait while loading" ... "no shows found" is this working for any body else?
[G Tablet Android Development] Will Eatforfood:
Thanks raphe, it was actually due to an overclock. Any value higher than stock made it horridly unstable. I wanted to crank the juice but no apps support vcore changes and will work with pershoots kernel. Anyways this rom is rock solid and imo the best variant of HC out. The options and wealth of accessibility features as well as intuitiveness makes you think a whole division worked on it. Well actually.... lol thanks to tbardelljr and all of the devs. My daily driver for sure.
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
Glad to hear that you figured out the issue! I haven't been overclocking because 1 GHz is plenty fast for everything that I do (or least have been doing so far). But yeah, it's an awesome ROM that keeps improving.
[G Tablet Android Development] adam714:
i guess i will give it a shot tonight. wondering if i should nvflash first. last couple of releases of illuminate i just dl'd the update zip right to the device, extracted to root of sdcard and flashed and had no issues but i think it's always better to start clean.
[G Tablet Android Development] alex6499:
My tv show app crashes when i load it too. For some reason Aldiko Reader will not install either.
[G Tablet Android Development] bschrib:
Yeah.. Trying to setup a friends tablet with this ROM and I have the following three programs that get errors when installing:

Sniper+

Aldiko Reader

Wyse PocketCloud Free

I checked alogcat, and the error goes something like this (not exact, dont have in front of me anymore):

Unable to open /mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec

So I found some threads that talk about deleting smdl2tmp1.asec but the file doesn't even exist.

HOWEVER here's a *TEMPORARY* solution I found myself.. If you change (using Root Explorer) the /mnt/secure/asec directory to R/W from R/O then you can install the programs and use them -- Until you reboot, at which point the programs uninstall themselves automagically. So far I'm not sure how to get this directory to be R/W on every boot via init.d because I can't get terminal to process the command: mount -o remount,rw /mnt/secure/ without giving an error that it cannot find it in procs.. :(

If anyone has a solution please share it.

--UPDATE--

I seem to have found a solution which lets the apps live through a reboot. Do the above and make /mnt/secure (or just /) r/w, then install your trouble-apps. They should load. Afterwards go into Applications Management (via settings) and move them to device. Viola! They now live through reboots and work properly. The only caveat to this is that you must again make /mnt/secure r/w when you want to install updates (to the effected programs).

I'm not sure what the root cause of this problem is but I hope it can get addressed because the ROM is great otherwise.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
You probably want to stay with illuminate another update is coming soon. Not only does he update the rom but the kernel to. This one I looked at but it is still guess your best as far as what works and what doesn't. Everything that the dev is trying to work out on this one has already been mastered on illuminate. So it would be like losing some of the functionality. Even where illuminate is now is way ahead of where this one is as far as GUI, functionality and features. No crashing is occurring on illuminate.

The constant updates is to try to stabilize the rom. Glad to have another dev and another flavor though at the rate this rom is going he will eventually get it to the stage of illuminate. Keep developing dev we appreciate you.
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
Adam714,

Worse case.....you try it and go back. The nice thing about the gtab is that it is easy to flash and near impossible to hard brick.

Tl
[G Tablet Android Development] adam714:
Thanks, thats what i was thinking.
[G Tablet Android Development] adam714:
I've used the backup/restore feature in CWM a few times, it's great!
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
What does Illuminate have that Flashback doesn't? And how is it way ahead of Flashback in terms of GUI, functionality, and features? I'm genuinely curious because Flashback has been incredibly stable and has just about everything working. Is the hardware acceleration in it really any better than what the other HC ROMs have? From reading the comments in both of the threads, it seems to me people are having just as many problems with Illuminate as they are with Flashback, if not more. Also, just to clarify, the constant updates have been to add functionality, not fix stability issues (at least as long as I've been on it). I switched to this ROM on a4.2 and that build and every update since have been incredibly stable.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
I'm reading the comments too and the things that are still trying to be worked out on this rom has been perfected on illuminate as already stated by two other HC rom testers. Not only is the illuminate dev puttng together roms but kernels too which by default is stating he has a real clear understanding of how these two entities work and function hand in hand. It could mean the difference in trying to mesh 3 (g tab, 3rd party kernel & rom) entities together to make them work and only needing to do it with just two because his kernel and rom by design work as one unit.

Not to mention, and personal preference, I prefer the more professional GUI of illuminate. All and all it is a professional package.
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
What specifically are you referring to when you say the things being worked out on Flashback are already perfected on Illuminate? A working camera? Fully functional Flash (not just in the Opera browser)? Full hardware acceleration? Because as far as I can tell, those are the only major issues that need to be worked out on Flashback and I don't think they're working on any HC ROM for the gtab yet.
[G Tablet Android Development] xmr405o:
I would like to know that as well. I've tried both ROMs and in my opinion, flashback is a little more functional and stable than illuminate. In app flash works well on most of the apps (VEVO, tv show stream, kongregate etc) I've tried except for the stock youtube but I use a different youtube app. However, even the stock youtube app functions the same as illuminate. Illuminate and Flashback cannot play full flash on any other browser except Opera. Flashback has flash working on more apps than illuminate. I haven't had market issues with downloading certain apps on flashback but on illuminate I did.

So far, I think flashback is the one to beat.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
I don't have market or flash issues with illuminate and I can play high end 1980 x 1080p videos can you? That for one is a huge difference and the GUI, I do commend this dev on his commitment and passion to bring forth a good working HC rom.

The GUI is critical because I take my g tab in public and I don't want to boot up and look...well I am not one for knocking anyone's effort so you finish the sentence. So I will rephrase, the graphic user interface for me must look professional.
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
I hope this thread does not become what has happened to the illuminate threads. Shortly after deciding to release Flashback I had posted that I was hesitant to start Flashback because of the criticism LBS was unfairly receiving.

Any dev who decides to take a project like this on has my utmost respect. It is very time consuming and sometimes we work days only to realize we need to head in a different direction. I wanted to participate to see if I could help move development forward for all the users who bought a GTAB and wanted Honeycomb.

Users have asked here what is different between the two. I have not been able to answer this question as I had not tried Illuminate. I just got done with installing illuminate and first off let me say this thing seems fast. It installed flawlessly and after a couple hours playing with it no crashes.

So far I can see three real differences for user experience.

1. Web related apps (craigslist) do not render on illuminate, they do on all other ROMS

2.Most of the videos in the youtube app do not play, they do on all other ROMS (albeit standard definition)

3. Apps downloaded from the market that require flash do not work, they do on all other Roms currently being developed.

Overall I think the Illuminate Dev did a very good job and I commend him for it.

The best advice I can give is to try them all out. It is free and usually painless to switch ROMS and take them for a test drive.

I am sure with the skills and dedication of everyone trying to take our Tabs further all ROMS will continue to get better and better.

Good luck with whatever you choose. This is fun stuff!! And the GTAB community is the best if you run into any trouble. So please lets stay positive before we poison our own community.
[G Tablet Android Development] xmr405o:
I don't really have any 1080p vids to test because I think they take to much space, I do have 720p vids that work well with QQ and mobo player. I'm not sure which flash apps you use and which apps you download so maybe we don't see the same issues however that's okay because people use their gtabs for different things. I know that apps I've tried, didn't work on illuminate 2.1 such as VEVO and Kongregate.
[G Tablet Android Development] xmr405o:
i doubt that's gonna happen with you. People like you haha.

I mean, I've gone on LBS threads and sorta defended him but it's because people say the same things over and over and over.

Let me ask you, as a dev, if he stole your idea, would there be a way for you to figure it out without him providing a changelog or github (or whatever) haha.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Thank you, for answering the questions posed and I agree and try to support all the devs because I KNOW it is time consuming. I respect what you do and stated my choice was ONLY based on personal preference.

Also, you are so right about the LBS thread and community users can hear it from a dev with class how their postings can affect the developers and their passion to continue on with a process. All the LBS threads have been infiltrated by some of the harshest posts any poster could never want to post and many are purposely trying to shut him down, unfortunately. It takes just as much to fine tune a rom to a users preference and when you find one you like you want to know it will be supported. How do you do that? By supporting the developer of that rom.

Carry on with your creative, masterpiece process of developing a quality HC rom. Oh, I can watch 1980 x 1080p Youtube videos. I will eventually try all HC roms believe me I have changed roms 7 or 8 times when I am ready for a new flavor. Where is the video on this one?
[G Tablet Android Development] xmr405o:
How?!?!?! Please tell me, haha. :) That's one of the reasons why I tried Illuminate, someone told me I could watch 1080p youtube vids. I mean you can stream 1080p vids through the youtube app? Or do you download them using some kind of youtube downloader and play them on Vital player.

I use Freedi youtube app and I can watch vids marked as HD fine on High Quality but I don't think it's truly HD...you know what I mean. I mean I'm ok with that because the vids look better than Standard def.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Not streaming but I use TubeMate and download them and you can watch them. It is nice seeing them in HD. Also I can download and watch any high quality podcast too. I love podcasts.
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
I can fairly quickly analyze any ROM and find the differences and whats been changed. But, let me explain my view on "stealing".

I do not believe in an open source project there is such a thing as stealing. If that were the case then we are all running stolen versions of Honeycomb because the manufacturer never released a Honeycomb ROM.

The first thing that drove me to development on this project was the fact there was no PC mount. I dug through the Kernel, the framework and the libs and after a good week or so found that the systemui I was using had no mount references in it, but one of the ones I "stole" did. So I merged the two, recompiled and BAM! it worked. It was late so I posted the update and went to bed.

The next day I seen Roebeet on the Flashback thread asking how I got it to work. Unfortunately being at work I couldn't respond. After seeing his edits of trying different things I emailed him and told him to take the systemUI from Flashback. He emailed back that it didn't work. Turned out the systemui I "stole" was from Roebeet. In the case of BOS it was the kernel, but in the flashback kernel the gsensor wasnt working so Roebeet didn't want to lose that over the external mounts. I then told him I seen that people were flashing gingerbread kernels and it was working maybe pershoots would work. He tried it and BAM! fixed my gsensor and his mounts.

So to me all this "stealing" is really borrowing and sharing of ideas and accomplishments and moves development much faster.

So to answer your question, I don't need a changelog of github, my ark zip program and apktool work just fine. :) This is my personal opinion and I know that of others differ, I respect that. I work with the framework not the kernel and I am probably not the best to comment on kernel development.

I hope now we can move forward helping users with Issues. I count on the community help so I can keep plugging away at the 3.1 port.

I need another BAM! it works! LOL
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
edirector - I believe it is the passion in GTAB users like yourself that keeps the community alive! Thanks for your support!
[G Tablet Android Development] Will Eatforfood:
You and Roe have got to be the most humble people here. TBH most normal people don't start attacking anothers character just because of a few implications. They boycott. But I must be type B and a few of the hotheads are type A. Btw TL did your rom ever run on clemsyns kernel previously?
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
I think the first release had clemsyns, all was great but it didn't have the pc mount to work with Honeycomb.
[G Tablet Android Development] xmr405o:
Thanks and I hate to spam your thread with questions like that. I think you're a very personable dev unlike LBS. I mean I'm not a LBS detractor but it is what it is with him. Even if your ROM sucked balls, I would still respect you for what you do. Haha. But it doesn't so no issues there. :P

I'll let the devs police themselves because you guys are smart enough to know if you aren't getting the recognition from other devs. I mean, like you said...not all devs think the same way so if they have a problem with LBS, I'm sure they'd call him out themselves.
[G Tablet Android Development] jph8tr:
Just installed this rom today and all I can say is WOW! I tried to install Illuminate first, but it refused to install on my gtab (must be special?). I usually don't leave thank you posts, but seeing the attitude around here....THANK YOU for developing this release that breathes new life into my gtab. If this is what you can do in an alpha, I can't wait to see what a beta will bring!!!
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
I know, right? I don't think I ever even used the camera, so it's pretty much a beta for me. And the UI is so much better than it was in gingerbread or froyo. I mean, it would be great to get the camera working to have the option to video chat and stuff, but it's really not that essential since I always have my phone or laptop (which both have video chat and picture taking capabilities).
[G Tablet Android Development] IllusiveDreams:
Has anyone gotten titanium backup to work on this ROM? I know the device technically didnt need to be rooted, so titanium says it root access failed when I try to use it.
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
Titanium Backup has been working fine for me. If you were able to install the ROM, you should have root access. Are you sure you allowed it in the Superuser Permissions app? That could prevent it from giving you root access. Try opening the Superuser app and see if it's allowed. Are you using the latest version of Titanium Backup? It was just updated today; that could also be the issue, although the past several versions have been working fine for me.
[G Tablet Android Development] IllusiveDreams:
Sorry, I thought I had edited the post to say I got it figured out. I had to go into Root Explorer and switch from R/O to R/W. Once I did that, Titanium worked.
[G Tablet Android Development] jerdog:
Guys - keep it clean and respectful or else I will have to action and maybe even close the thread.
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
5.3 is up. Let me know if battery performance has improved!
[G Tablet Android Development] mydave1:
tlbardelljr sir, thanks for taking the time to adapt good features from AdamComb. Your baby product has always been great, not it is even better.

Dave
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Has anybody done a video of this rom in action or who will consider doing one? If there is already one can you tell me where to find it? I looked at the videos of the roms -- the list and didn't see it. Thanks, in advance!
[G Tablet Android Development] ramerco:
Nice work so far!

Any chance you will include the data2loop mod/hack in this? It seems to work well on HC, at least on the GtabComb build.

Also, does the boot.img (specifically init.rc) have commands to execute scripts in system/etc/init.d?

Thanks!
[G Tablet Android Development] PlayfulGod:
not on my gtab it dont lol
[G Tablet Android Development] tlbardelljr:
I think its a great idea edirector. I don't have the hardware to make a video. If nobody here wants to make one I will see if I can get a friend to help out.
[G Tablet Android Development] ramerco:
I don't think the data2loop hack is the cause of the boot loops you said you are getting with gtabcomb, but i responded in the other thread so we can leave the discussion there.
[G Tablet Android Development] aarayas:
I was having issue with market after updating to 5.3 problem went away. Thanks.
[G Tablet Android Development] thatoneguy247:
You have my favorite ROM out right now. Your updates are consistent and you really get on the issues that your rom may have in a timely matter. I was looking at other roms, but I think I'm going to stay with Flashback for a while.

Thanks tlbardelljr!
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
I was about to mention that I was having problems with google earth force closing and network-based location not working on 5.3, but then I checked out the thread over on SlateDroid and saw that you fixed these issues on 5.4, which will be coming soon. Otherwise it's running really smoothly. Looking forward to 5.4!

I can make a video of the ROM if you want, but it would be using my evo, so the quality may not be all that great. Also, I assume it would be better to wait for 5.4 to do so, since it will have the issues from 5.3 fixed.
[G Tablet Android Development] Jesse6749:
I am still on 5.2 and it is still working good for me, so I am going to wait patiently for 5.4.:D

Update: Well 5.4 is up time to flash it and test it out :D
[G Tablet Android Development] nunjabusiness:
I am extremely pleased with 5.4. Everything working as it should after update.

Running benchmarks to check my notes. Antutu locked the thing up, but smartbench just ran and gave me a 3414 after a fresh boot and no manual closing of running apps. Pretty decent I think. I had a 3200-something with 5.0 before.
[G Tablet Android Development] xmr405o:
So is this the only ROM that has flash working in apps? Also, not sure what you tweaked in your flash apk but can you do the same with the most up to date flash release? I'm not requesting you to do that but it's just a question.

Great work. Love the update. It looks and runs great!
[G Tablet Android Development] raphenucleus:
I'm pretty sure the flash modifications were made by zebwen, not tlbardelljr, so you might want to contact him about it.
[G Tablet Android Development] madatruk01:
Thanks Dave, Your recommended rom works perfectly. Now, there is not any touchscreen problem

Big thanks Dave and nunjabusiness :D
[G Tablet Android Development] sixvoltsystem:
I have to say this rom is one of my favorites so far. Keep up the good work.
[G Tablet Android Development] jerdog:
To quickly nip this one in the bud.... Open source is that - OPEN - everyone uses from everyone. But XDA rules state that you MUST provide source as well as credit to all who's work you use. If you don't, your work will be pulled down and/or you will be banned.

So it's all well and good to say it's "all open so it's not stealing" [paraphrased] - but let's change that word "stealing" to "using another person's personal work achieved through hard work and blood, sweat and tears, without asking their permission, and thus claiming it as your own - either blatantly or quietly."

Make it a little more obvious?
[G Tablet Android Development] gogorman:
I have a couple of questions about this rom.

Am i supposed to see the little icon for sd card inserted, in the status bar? I see 2, one for my tablet memory and one for my external micro sd that i have installed. I didnt have any icons displayed in BOS?

Also, i am still getting the gallery force close everytime i boot.

Data and cache were both wiped prior to and post installation.
[G Tablet Android Development] mydave1:
Great ! so you are using Beasty 2.2.1 now !

If you are still having interest in HC, then make a nandroid backup of what you got, then give this Flashback v5.4 (or later) a shot. You can always go back to what you are enjoying by restoring the nandroid backup.

I played with this version almost a full day yesterday. The responsiveness is not up to par with the Beasty, as you can see in this lousy (very lousy) video that I did http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...lashback-honeycomb-alpha-5-4-tlbardelljr.html. But the rom gui is good, and it also has the layout of pages that is similar to (but not quite as good) as an iPad (my favorite toy, by the way). Aside from the responsiveness (which no one would notice unless they experienced the Beasty rom before), I had a bit of problem downloading apps from the market at first. Everything, once settling down, is stable and functional.

Ah, yes ! nunjabusiness is quite good. I always enjoyed reading his comments and advises. A wise person.

Dave,
[G Tablet Android Development] mt251401:
IIf I'm currently on 5.1, do I just flash 5.4 right over it? No need to data wipe or clear cache? Sorry if I missed this in a previous message.