yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] rugedraw:
My sig says it all. Actually, I've already donated to some of the guys on here working on this, and I will do so again when this happens.

Devs: Remember I'm down to guinea pig anything you guys come up with. To those of you that are getting your 3vo today, don't brick your phones experimenting with things because then you won't have anything to continue working with. Let the grunts do the grunt work :)

Post here or PM me. My daughter is going with mom to Disney World for the weekend so I'll have nothing but time.
[HTC EVO 3D] NVETHIS:
Yes!!! I second this!!!!

-Slevin
[HTC EVO 3D] NVETHIS:
Me as well...didn't do the OTA update. So any help I can be just let me know. This phone is sick!!!

-Slevin
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
Has anybody taken that S-Off H-boot and made a PG86IMG with it and flashing via bootloader?

Also HERE is a online goldcard tool, could this help?
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Got my evo 3d today.

Hardware 002

Software 1.13.651.7

Can't wait til root its possible!
[HTC EVO 3D] m03sizlak:
I dont feel like reading the preceding 60 pages, or even the OP. Someone tell me where the roots at.
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
On our sensation, bootloader won't let you downgrade if the HBOOT is lower than the one stock on your sensation. 99 percent sure its the same for the E3D. Did you see my post on the last page? You think we may be able to make a SMART_IO using the goldcard as a base or something? Goldcard wouldn't work on our Sensations though, from what i read.
[HTC EVO 3D] ktulu909:
As of right now?In the ground under a tree.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
The title states WIP= WORK IN PROGRESS.
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
Please don't waste a space in this thread with your irrelevant and useless post again please. Thanks.

I don't know "where the Roots at", nor does anyone else. That's why this thread is here.
[HTC EVO 3D] TMartin:
I think a copy of that SMART_IO would help. I don't think an actual goldcard will work in our case either.
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
For the Evo 4G we had a Hex edited H-boot that allowed us to downgrade. Couldnt the same be dont here? In theory that Eng H-boot has the KEY to allow it to be flashed, maybe?

I seen that someone can write code, but I dont think anyone knows what :(
[HTC EVO 3D] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
I'm going to try it

didn't seem to work
[HTC EVO 3D] jta462:
Dallas launch party. He works for sprint.
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
I have someone who could make the SMART_IO.crd file, but i just don't know what commands would need to be implemented into it. Check out the last two pages of this thread.

@Cordell12

You think you guys could hex edit it AGAIN? The way everything is updated, i doubt the old tricks would work again unfortunately.
[HTC EVO 3D] jta462:
You would think. Then you would have a million people that don't need to be rooting . . . Rooting. And for the wrong reasons. . . Just my opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
You needed to be s off for that to work in the first place I think.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sortilege:
What are the actual devs that are working on this root...i feel this is totally worth donating to and want to make sure the ones doing the hard work get it.:o
[HTC EVO 3D] Onyoursix:
My work replaces all my phones, if someone makes this I'll flash it and give it a go. Not a big deal if it bricks me.
[HTC EVO 3D] Skitzi:
Has anyone tried http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803682 to see if you can get shell root?
[HTC EVO 3D] Onyoursix:
I have, doesn't work.

I've tried superoneclick, gingerbreak, chmod'ing gingerbreak in data/local/tmp folder, z4root, and pretty much any other 2.2 based root. I'm pretty confident that the "generic" rooting exploits will not work on this device.
[HTC EVO 3D] blakeboys:
Confirmed here too. Doesn't work...:(
[HTC EVO 3D] billyapd21:
Is it ok to take the HTC software update? I'm not talking about the firmware update.
[HTC EVO 3D] Onyoursix:
Should be, I took it, just widget updates and lock screen update.
[HTC EVO 3D] cniels01:
I also believe it updates the bootloader from 1.30 to 1.40. I have read in earlier posts as well as the first post by xHausx that we should not take the ota updates until they have been fully checked out.
[HTC EVO 3D] karmak:
I believe the first HTC Software Update includes the new HBoot. I dont know of a way to skip this and just get the application and widget updates. Currently it is recommended you not take this update. I dont think the firmware update option does anything right now.
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
Has anyone tried to disassemble the RUU for the init scripts? They're read-protected on the device, and I'm on vacation, or I'd do it myself. There may be an oops in there that lets us get control during start-up.
[HTC EVO 3D] tyler.durden:
Bollocks, and I was really looking forward to watching The Green Hornet on this 4.3" screen, but it won't let me without the update!

j/k... I'm not updating until a good root method is found.
[HTC EVO 3D] retnuh730:
My updated 3D shows 1.4 for the bootloader, so I think that's right.
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
There's no way to push it to system.

Sent from 3D land
[HTC EVO 3D] tsalate:
Delete
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
We don't need to push it back. We should look for calls to scripts in locations we have access to.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Hacking into the boot process, I like it.

BANG! from my shooter...
[HTC EVO 3D] wrapkgb:
C'mon guys lets keep this on topic. These types of questions are better suited for the q and a or general sections. I think it's fair to say only post if you have something to contribute regarding obtaining root. Keep up the good work people! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] tsalate:
Sorry my mind just went blank and I thought about it. I was confusing the hboot number with software version number. I looked at hboot and its same as everyone elses.
[HTC EVO 3D] w9sig:
I hope this isn't out of line, but I'd like to start a bounty/appreciation fund:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1139687

Thanks to the dev's
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
You'll have to look through one of the ruu's. Earlier today I tried

and shell cat init.rc

but got an error.

Sent from 3D land
[HTC EVO 3D] lilflip21:
If you want the earliest possible root its always best to be safe and.. always avoid all OTA's.. lol I didn't even let my rep touch the phone once it came out of the box today.. I just kept it busy in my hands to avoid him doing any updates ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] phazen18:
I'm getting a permission denied when i try to cat or adb pull /init.rc. bootcomplete.rc is readable, but only contains some shell commands to mkdir/chown/ln/rm, etc..

EDIT: it looks like init*.rc is only readable by root:root.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Naw, no bounties please. They tend to make some people want to hoard information and are counterproductive
[HTC EVO 3D] retnuh730:
Naw man, that bountied Windows 7 Port for the EVO is still going STRONG...:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
Would it apply with windows 8. I have a leaked beta I'm working on. It supports ARM chipsets.

Sent from 3D land
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Keep your awesome win8 dual boot ideas quiet, sheesh. This is a root thread.

^^^

#sarcasm

BANG! from my shooter...
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
Any new word on whether the ota is ok or not?
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Nope from what i understand
[HTC EVO 3D] aaronpoweruser:
Ota=not ok
[HTC EVO 3D] eviltwin24:
Damm I just updated mine :( well I got 29 days so ill play around with it for a bit if I don't have root by then ill just return and wait for a while.
[HTC EVO 3D] CyWhitfield:
Just in case it has not been answered yet - HBOOT 1.3 (pre-ota) and I get the characters before FASTBOOT.

Dunno if that helps
[HTC EVO 3D] vaelek:
From the horse's mouth: "I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
Well it is just how many phones do they care to sell? if they think they can wait till past 30 days and we can't send it back by then they are wrong.After another 23 days now for me it goes back if not full root.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
I couldn't agree more.
[HTC EVO 3D] blakeboys:
My response from HTC:
[HTC EVO 3D] OneStepAhead:
The ceo did state that the evo 3d would be unlocked. Also apparently they are working on a tutorial that will be posted on the htc dev site.
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
They have thirty days
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Prob need a whole nother thread devoted to HTC status on bootloaders at this point so the Devs can have a cleaner thread for the most part.

In the mean time though, dont take too much into what support says there. I got that same response from a girl and responded with a screen shot of the email the CEO sent to someone stating the 3D would be unlocked a few months ago. She forwarded that up the laddar and the next response I got was that they are working on the implementation of unlocked boot loaders in conjunction with partners and are investigating my other question which was why 2.3.4 wasn't included or when it would be.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
All it would take is for them to create a firmware zip that contains their development bootloader, aka the eng hboot. They already have them so I wouldnt think they would need more than 15min to put it together.

An ota would be a waste of time imo when they could just post that zip to their site and be done with it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kingmac38:
best

It would be best to do this also as some people dont want a unlocked bootloader . Make it available but you have to download it .... not just a ota .....
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
Well I pulled the SD card from the second 3vo I received today before turning the phone on.

Stuck in my card reader and it prompted me to format it. :mad: The SD card must be formatted by the phone upon 1st boot?
[HTC EVO 3D] CheesyNutz:
If they back out and not unlock the bootloader.. HOLY HELL I'm not sure they understand the **** storm that will hit them

E3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
Maybe it's in another format, like EXT3/EXT2. Someone download Paragon Partition Manager and see, or plug it into a computer with Ubuntu. DO NOT FORMAT.

Also, again, I spoke to an HTC Rep IN PERSON, who said it will 100000000000000000000000000000000% be bootloader unlocked. They're still trying to decide how to do it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Arnezie:
Brother i hope your right
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
+1

-----

No, I'm not happy to see you, that's a Shooter in my pocket.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
+100000 for that I love this phone so much
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
so have u guys installe the newest OTA?.....or are u guys gonna still hold of on it?....thanks fellas
[HTC EVO 3D] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
define newest.. I got the .7 update but everyone else says to hold off.
[HTC EVO 3D] Product F(RED):
I installed the OTA. Backing off now would be PR suicide for HTC. The OTA was supposed to fix a calender bug (which it did, but also introduced more bugs, like hiding "Phone" as a lockscreen shortcut). It's not meant to lock down the phone anymore.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
But why update hboot if it's just calender fix.
[HTC EVO 3D] gtkansan:
On the EVO they updated hboot all the damn time.
[HTC EVO 3D] ballerx43:
I think we should limit this thread strictly to rooting the phone and not side comments. I don't know about you guys but I'm DYING for root... I feel like I'm using some obselete phone because its not rooted so instead of having to sift through 65 pages why not keep it strictly to rooting advice and ideas?
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Exactly. It's possible that there would need to be more to it with their new security but more often then not huge entities such as htc need to be motivated so they dont take forever
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
I do not think we had root day 1 for the EVO i think it took a week? so in this case people need to chill but keep working and keep putting pressure on HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] arozer:
I got my phone this morning. So I'm ready to fuk it up. :)

So if you need anything from me or me to be a tester, pm me.
[HTC EVO 3D] hhisc383:
I thought the OG Evo was rooted before release?
[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
i was gonna say the same thing, seems like most devices are rooted before launch.
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
it was... about a week or so prior.

in fact... heres the OG thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=690762
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Nothing on stock SD card except .data and 2d and 3d pics, music. Damn HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
same here man.... smh
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
b/c everyone had the phone way before the actual release. Thats the main reason it was unlocked so quickly. that and the ENG bootloader.

...........

Take it there isn't much to be done with the ENG-Bootloader that was dumped from the s-off 3D?

Or are you guys and toast messing with it behined the scenes still?
[HTC EVO 3D] B-Mod:
I have hboot 1.30, sorry have not read the whole thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] CrippleB:
This was earlier anyone know progress?
[HTC EVO 3D] Ep3n3wp:
What is pre ota software?

I have 1.11

Am I good

I've had no prompts to do any ota
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Without a working exploit to get temp root we are dead in the water. Right now we've mostly been looking for such exploit (which will probably help more than just the e3d when found), looking for a way to use the built in unlock cmd, or trying to motivate HTC in to just unlocking it for us. The latter would be the best, and safest, out come but in not holding my breath for it any time soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
It's in the OP
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
cool deal.

btw last response I got from htc just a min ago when I asked why they just didn't do what you suggested with packing the bootloader in a firmware zip and uploading it for those that wish to unlock their phones. Their response was that it was just not the method they choose to resolve its issues, and they are going to resolve it with a software update, and still currently developing that software.

gotta love making stuff much more difficult than it needs to be. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
That would be cool and all for the future but for now wouldn't it make more sense to just let one out? If anything it would shut everyone up so they can take their time and develop the permanent fix properly. Plus it would show everyone they are serious about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] B-dub25:
Does anyone have a system dump that's not a leak I can look at? I get mine in a few days

and would like to help put in anyway I can.

Skills

C++

JAVA

Linux/Unix programming

awk

Perl

C#

Shell scripting ( bash ksh,csh)

sed <-- I hate that one

Python
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeDCMDVA:
I want to watch The Green Hornet but it is prompting me to FOTA to 1.13.651.7, should I do this or wait? Please let me know, thanks guys!!
[HTC EVO 3D] mbh87:
Nobody can "let you know" there isnt much to know at this point, anything would be pure speculation. Either take it or dont, choice is yours. I wouldnt take it imo.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
There are a few posted here in the development section but you have to sift through all the clutter in order to find them.

Are you any good with asm :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ksamani:
Agreed.... Hundred times fold

sent from the THIRD dimension
[HTC EVO 3D] cordell12:
I dumped it the night I got it, this is pre-ota (any ota's)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14995668&postcount=117
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeDCMDVA:
Ok, thanks, I shall wait!
[HTC EVO 3D] B-dub25:
I read a little about it and played with it that is if I remember correctly and low level code almost a machine code and it relays the info to the CPU. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm just going on memory. But if we can use that we could jump levels thou and that would most likely help us out. ( In theory of course )
[HTC EVO 3D] B-dub25:
Does anyone know what kind of pseudocode the boot is written in?
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
Sorry i haven't been much help fellas. Been trying to get some answers but it seems mostly everyone is signed off. You could follow my thread for some suggestions when it comes to the Smart Card file and some things from my forum here if you want.
[HTC EVO 3D] agrabren:
Bootloader is typically written in C. We should probably focus on root, since it's unlikely that we'll be able to fake sign an update.zip.
[HTC EVO 3D] Shaquiel Harris:
Well This is annoying. Read this. Hope its not true, but seems to make sense.:mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] TimidRat:
Oh, crap. Was that "sense" pun intentional or just perfect?
[HTC EVO 3D] sleepy8594:
Anyone get with joeykrim? He is the hack master!
[HTC EVO 3D] B-dub25:
Don't let a comment like that get you down reps really don't know what they are talking about. That would be like a sales man knowing what the CO was planning on doing.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
He is well aware although MIA I'm sure he will pop up

Sent from my PG86100 :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ktulu909:
Not to mention that once the method is released it would be shared here without having to call anyone.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
If you really believe a HTC rep told him that then you are as big a fool as he is because a rep did not come in and tell him that.

People believe so much of what they read and this is BS as well.

Just wait and only believe stuff you see posted on the HTC site because no rep is coming out and saying something HTC has not even decided which way they are going to go yet.

I mean if this was a guy with 1000 post and any rep at all but this to me is a troll post and move on.
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
Thats total garbage. Think about it... What manufacturer would give you an option to void your warranty? Come on man. Think about that.

Sorry to OP for posting nothing related to dev. We need to get a "bootloader speculation" thread going to keep this one clean.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
HTC NEXUS ONE

SAMSUNG NEXUS S

2 MANUFACTURERS THAT HAVE DONE IT ALREADY.

STOP POSTING NONSENSE AND APOLOGIZING FOR IT. YOU ARE WRONG.

honestly that's the best way for the manufacturer to do it because it covers their asses from people like you that ruin their phone and cry about it.

Just like every post for any mod that says your warranty is now void.

If you mess it up why should the manufacturer replace it?

Please know what you are talking about before posting garbage and flaming.
[HTC EVO 3D] mbh87:
I would imagine they would attempt to do a nexus one style bootloader, makes the most sense.
[HTC EVO 3D] JJsax:
Not necessarily, I did the same thing earlier made a full dump of the card for backup on my pc. I put the card back in the 3D booted just fine.

I tried all the fastboot commands that have been mentioned in the thread and nothing seems to be working properly to get s-off.

Some great devs working on the 3D I'm sure it will be s-off soon
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
Exactly what I was thinking.

I would be perfectly happy with that option.

Within 20 minutes of receiving my nexus one I had already unlocked the bootloader.

Later that day I realized the phone was defective and wasn't vibrating.

Warranty now void and Sol but you know what I didn't cry to htc.

I loved that phone no matter what and rocked it for a year with no vibration.

Point is.

My bad not theirs.

And they did the right thing to cover themselves.

I will forever stand behind htcs quality and recommend them to anyone.

And I'm very proud to own a evo 3d regardless of its current state.
[HTC EVO 3D] danieltorres_cuba:
Sorry for this, but this guy touched my feeling part. I've been with htc from many years ago. My first one was named Qtek, even htc made it. After that my first named htc was thep3600 back in Cuba. Then I had a couple more there. I remember that time the thing was making the hard spl.

Here in US I've been using mostly cdma ones, first the Mogul, then the Diamond, then the TP2, Evo and finally today I'm another proud owner of this 3D.

I'm not a big poster of these forums, cause I'm the only tech/owner at my store. But I have learned more than the half I know about cellphones here. Thanks for being here and thanks to devs for making this place the most interesting about developing htcs in the entire web.
[HTC EVO 3D] outerdepth:
Just checking in... thought I would see how your root forum is going. I see you already have amassed an army. I will be following this. I hope to get a 3d myself fairly soon. Good work so far, my friend.
[HTC EVO 3D] dangerruss:
Let's get back on track and keep the thread clean.
[HTC EVO 3D] jhuff83:
That was my email and its still saved.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxtc714:
Yes let's

I think it's time to hit up irc. That's where the real action is

We are kind of at a stand still here.
[HTC EVO 3D] danieltorres_cuba:
what is the room name xda is?
[HTC EVO 3D] dlbaker1179:
Lots Posted!! Root Yet!?! I Didnt Do OTA!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] jhuff83:
So guess I should stick w/my 1.30 hboot right?
[HTC EVO 3D] dxtyle:
#xda-devs @ freenode
[HTC EVO 3D] kthejoker20:
If your not discussing ROOT.

DO NOT POST. YOUR JUST MAKING IT HARDER FOR US TO WEED THROUGH YOUR BS TO WORK TOGETHER.
[HTC EVO 3D] Doward:
Ok, well, the obvious didn't work. (copied su binary to /data/local/tmp, chmod 777 su... went to chroot and permission denied:()

I've got nothing better to do here @ work - more ideas?

Would a complete dump of all permissions / directories of the stock system from adb shell be of any use?

*edit*

push'd and chmod'd busybox in /data/local/tmp... can execute busybox now, fwiw. Still won't chroot to /data/local/tmp, though - Operation not permitted
[HTC EVO 3D] CuzinBucksBx:
This remind me the good old days with the TP2 "Hard SPL"....
[HTC EVO 3D] puertoblack2003:
it wont work
[HTC EVO 3D] Doward:
You're saying no way via permissions to take control inside the system? 0-day exploits only need apply?
[HTC EVO 3D] AyoJake:
i have the 1.30 hboot have most people updated to the 1.40?
[HTC EVO 3D] Doward:
1.3 here as well. Phone's whining about wanting to update. Want's me to 'tap to update'

The update's already been posted in here, correct?
[HTC EVO 3D] ZoinksS2k:
Moto also says you "may" lose warranty by OEM unlockling. This is the case for both the Xoom and Atrix (recently unlocked).
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I didn't follow the Nexus stuff much at all but I had no idea that you couldn't revert back to stock form and get warranty serviced after if you unlocked it. By talks of what I've briefly skimmed it seems these manufacturers are making it to where if you unlock their way theres no going back so any issues can't be serviced under warranty, which is unlike the EVO4G and others are now b/c you can always go back.

If this is all true then they might of seen the advantage of letting ppl unlock. let em unlock their phones and mess them up, and in turn force them to come in and pay full retail for replacement or fixes. more $$ for them in the end.

hope I'm wrong in all that there though.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
No they didn't, but it was like I said before. The device already went gold, so there was no way for them to update them all on time. HTC sent out a memo discussing the state of the bootloaders, and are working hard to keep their promise through a OTA update. The memo was dated on Tuesday.
[HTC EVO 3D] ZoinksS2k:
No you are right.

I'm not saying I like it. I'm also not saying that OEM's couldn't save the same money on returns by providing and supporting recovery methods for end-users.

I think the majority of people bricking their devices do so by trying to work around the methods OEM's use to secure their devices. In other words, OEM's create returns by employing security measures to prevent tampering who's purpose is to prevent returns. Vicious cycle.
[HTC EVO 3D] JT man:
Deleted
[HTC EVO 3D] smw6180:
I'd just like to point out that posts like yours (and now mine too) add to the mess.
[HTC EVO 3D] ktrotter11:
^^^^

Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] Keithgordon:
I just used z4root and it said I had temporary root access, I started android commander and it said I had root access, dont know what I am doing and screwed up, lost root access. If someone knows what they are doing they might be able to get us root, dont have time or knowledge to mess with it anymore but here is z4root
[HTC EVO 3D] wildgillis:
Did not work.....force closes when attempting to root