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[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mustang302LX:
Wow that is how I felt. I thought phones with kickstands were absolutely DUMB. Now after having the TBolt for a few weeks I can't see how I ever lived without one haha. I LOVE this phone. The build quality is awesome. It's not scary to put down and handle like the iPhone 4 (glass cell phone....really? idiots!!!). The only thing I'm not huge on is battery life but I got the extended 2750mAhbattery so it all works out! Screw the locked down garden of iOS and get the TBolt!!

Not hating on you but you really think the Droid X/X2 have a better build quality? My buddy has the X and to me it feels cheaper than the TBolt. Obviously it's our opinions and subjective overall but it just shocked me to read that.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satseaker:
- - Another question I had that for you guys: on my current blackberry I have multiple email accts on it

w/ the thunderbolt how many email accts can you setup on it? is it only 1 main one that we need to forward all emails to or ability to setup multiple accts?

thx again[/QUOTE]

I have 4 different emails setup all update just fine, the main issue with the bolt is htc and vzw screwed the pooch on the OS but the devs stepped up, it does have one of the largest group of devs working on it.

Bamf is runnin' my bolt - smoke that vzw!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C@rn@ge:
One thing I really wish was different is the the location of usb port. I can't use the kickstand and and netflix at the same time, unless I'm lying on my side and have it kickstood portrait mode. I really think that the usb location should have been in between of the onoff button and 3.5 headset port. Tbh anywhere but the side it is now. =)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazyhtown:
I love it. Rooted with a little love it is a very powerful device..stock is another story..
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DesireC:
I got mine yesterday and I love it. It is huge, which I didn't think would matter, and at 4.3" it doesn't, but I don't find 5" phones so attractive any more. The included 32GB microSD is great, and root isn't too difficult, and there are several good ROMs (not as good as the Incredible, but I expected that, given the 1-year head start). It blows the iPhone away, though. I've used several people's iPhone 4s, and came away thoroughly unimpressed even when I had the Inc or D1 before that, and they don't have much of a screen size difference, and the iPhone and Inc have similar processors (don't let the clock speed fool you, the Bolt's is way better).

tl;dr: The ThunderBolt is way out of the iPhone's league. I wouldn't even consider the iPhone if I were you. I would, however, compare the Bolt and the Charge, Revolution, and X2, as they all have their pros and cons.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawn haz root:
The LG Revolution has pretty much the same specs as the Tbolt but is Bing'd. I would personally stay away from that phone.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoulderGeek:
Just got my Thunderbolt last night. Getting 20mbit down on WiFi and ~13-14Mbit on LTE.

The girlfriend, who has had every iteration of iPhone and loves her iPhone 4: she couldn't stop playing with the Tbolt. She was really impressed with stock speed, appearance and performance. I presume these will all get better with custom ROMs and new development cycle.

The TBolt doesn't seem as chunky as the original EVO

that I demoed for a month. Feels only slightly larger than the Captivate/Fascinate, which I hated owning due to AT&T and Samsung's problems.

Feeling pretty darn good about the Thunderbolt, right now. Definitely needs some battery deep cycling and probably an uprated aftermarket battery.

I think it is a keeper.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] finestflip:
had my tbolt since release and very happy with it
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilovesoad:
Got the tb about two weeks after launch, rooted since late april. Have been back and forth between bamf, both froyo and gb flavors, and cm7, and found my sweet spot with cm7 and the 402w1 radio. I leave it on CDMA/EVDO for the most part. I'll toggle up to LTE/EVDO if i wanna go on youtube or something else data intensive, and it kicks up wonderfully. Very very smooth, beyond what sense could provide me with anyways, and more reliable than the stock rom was for me reboots wise, etc. I love my phone :)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eraursls1984:
It has much better build quality than the thunderbolt. I've seen several Droid X's and quite a few thunderbolts and all the thunderbolts feel cheap, have lots of light leaks (which aren't bad during the day but indoors and night time its a major annoyance) I've taken my battery case off 3 times and it doesn't shut properly (only by a millimeter, but that's enough to let in debris and squeak when I hold it). The thunderbolt weights a ton more than the X so you would think its tougher but its not at all. II'm 9 months I dropped my X once and it still looks brand new (except for a tiny smudge from dropping it) finish and all. My thunderbolt is all scratched up and I've never dropped it and take care of it the same as the X. The proximity sensor on the thunderbolt sucks, if we could adjust it that may help some but I doubt it will make much difference, the X's proximity sensor was good and with the adjustments I made it was perfect. The microphones on the X were top notch, there could be 50 mph winds and the person on the other end couldn't tell, with the thunderbolt I have to turn my access in my truck off so that people can hear me. My wife said "what are you doing, it sounds like your in a hurricane" when my access was on low, now I have to turn it off for calls. The reception is good on thethunderbolt but Motorola and blackberry phones can't be matched. Also all of the buttons on th X works great after 11 months, I need to get a replacement for the tbolt because the power button is barely accessible.

Edit: Sorry for the wall of text, I didn't realize I typed so much.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deltaechoe:
A few case mods would take care of your problem eraursis

But anyway, I've had my Tbolt for awhile and i absolutely love it. The developer support is what got me to switch over from the incredible (I wanted a 4g phone before they switched to tiers which i've known about since december). Anyway, as long as you have a few extra batteries with you (like 3 dollars each on ebay and those ones aren't all that bad just make sure you know they're 1350 milliamps and not higher as they claim) you will be just fine. I've never had problems with light leakage and less so since my case is modded.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qubanaso:
Gotta love the TB i came over from the evo and im gonna go out on q limb and put it over the evo and it hurt me to say it but its the thruth its a great phone overall
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsmejson:
does the thunderbolt do both voice & data

at the same time when only in a 3g area?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistdhood:
My Thundering Review

I'll start with the cons first:

1) Battery. Everyone has said it. The stock battery just doesn't cut it.

Rooting helps. My wife is stock from vzw, I'm rooted. I could last ~48 hours with dasBamf 1.6, my wifes needs charged every day. So depends what you want to do there.

2) Price, it's a little pricey and the tiered data plan makes VZW a little less tempting, so get in now if you can, before the tiered plans come into full effect. They work for some, not so much for others. BUT...if you think about it...if you buy some other phone and pay to expand the storage to 40G, it's about the same...so figure what you want there.

That's about it tho... Now for the pros:

1) Great form factor. I think it works very well if you're not a cell phone in pocket person. I have a case with belt clip and I love it. It's a solid phone, not light and flimsy. You don't feel like you might break it when you hold it in your hand.

2) Dual voice/data. Never mentioned enough but when you need it you really need to have it.

3) Plenty fast enough. All this talk about dual cores, but really? It's a phone, it doesn't need to play COD or games. I need it to check my email, browse the internet, and make a freaking phone call.

4) 4GLTE is pretty super sweet if you have it. If you have coverage, there's no reason not to dive in, it's well worth it.

I love the device, tho it is my first smartphone. Nothing really appealed to me until the DInc. I almost got it but decided to wait until both my wife and myself were eligible for phones. We both got TBolts day one and haven't had one day of regret...It's a great purchase unless you really use the thing into the dirt and need to carry a cord 24/7. So as long as you don't live on your phone all day it's plenty good enough in my opinion where you can live with it's shortfalls.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satseaker:
Only really have this to say ya baby, Das Bamf makes the bolt what it should have been out of the box

Bamf is runnin' my bolt - smoke that vzw!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dajogejr:
Still love this phone.

Battery life can be helped...but it will probably never be GREAT based on the radios and LTE on this phone.

I'm a big fan of BAMF and Th3ory's ROMs. I am torn between the two, but it's two great choices.

Any issues I've had have been 99% self induced to being a noob when it comes to flashing, rooting, ROMs... But there is a ton of good folks out there to help no matter what you do.

Great choice...I say roll with it.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dspradau:
It does yes. And that is one reason why I love my TB so much.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KnightCrusader:
Yep, I was on the fence about the TB or the Charge, but once I read that it also works in 3G, my decision was made. I work on a 4G area but live in 3G, so it benefits me anywhere I go.

The only thing this phone has that is driving me BONKERS is not having a physical keyboard. All my PDAs and Smartphones have had keyboards, and I thought I could get used to not having it, but sadly I was wrong. I don't want to go back to my Droid 2 now that I have the 3G Voice+Data, 4G, 4.3 Inch Screen, UNLOCKED bootloader, and front facing camera, but I have thought about it.

I ordered some parts to build a slide out bluetooth keyboard case for this phone, so hopefully that will work for me until VZ gets a 4G HTC Keyboard phone (like a 4G Merge would be perfect).

Yeah, I noticed this too. It should be at the top or bottom or even the other side.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lrs421:
Still in love with mines going on a month. Coming from AT&T. No regrets at all.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00s3y:
Love mine, had it since launch day. Got the OEM extended battery, love it even more. Going on 40+ hours, 24% battery left, and that includes a lot of music playing/streaming, oc'd to 1.6. 4G is awesome with the web pages loading so quickly. I came from an Incredible, thinking it is just a minor upgrade, but it is so much more. Might not have dual core, but I don't notice.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan2600:
Yes. Very happy. Lots of devs that do a good job also.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsmejson:
thanks KnightCrusader & Dspradau for

answering the 4g/3g date & call question

and everyone else who have put their 2cents

in on this thread :)

I'm definitely going to be getting this either today

or tomorrow for sure.

does anyone know where I can find the tutorial to

overclock the TB? when overclocked will it drain

the battery more?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dogthunder1104:
Love my Thunderbolt , I have been using Th3ory Roms since I have bought it and it is way better than stock system , better battery life and not all the useless stuff you dont use on the phone.... If you have a problem there is many devs out there to help you immediately with your problems.

Great Phone
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bill3508:
Had it since release. Stock its crap, rooted its very nice. I would have dumped it if I had kept it stock.

Thunderbolt CM7 1.3

Tiamat 1.0.4
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] voxigenboy:
i was happy with it the day i bought it but that changed when i got home. i was with t-mobile paying $54/month for unlimited data & i had that "my favs".

i switched because i thought the internet was too slow on t-mobile and started hearing about this new Thunderbolt and Verizon's blazing fast 4G-LTE network.

well, as of this day... nearly 6 months later, still no 4G where i live and the 3G is slower then T-Mobile. that and my bill is nearly double of what i was paying on T-Mob.

i do like the size of the phone, just hate battery life and wish i could use 4G.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] razor2006:
No offense, but your argument is completely irrelevant to whether or not the Bolt is a good phone. You switched to VZW from Tmo knowing full well what your monthly bill would be, and knowing the fact you didn't have 4G coverage. That's on you. Don't put down the device because you made a decision you're not happy with. Just my .02.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KeithLing1115:
Yeah I love my ThunderBolt still to this day. I live in a 4g area and this phone is fast as hell. The only reason I got this phone was because VZW was getting rid of unlimited data. I'm glad I did. The people that own em are extremely helpful and We have the best devs. The battery is a little small and wasn't lasting long at all until I installed "2x Battery" from the market and now I get double almost triple battery life. I'm glad I got this phone and you will be two.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonami:
Love my bolt. Had someone walk me through and show me the root process and how to flash everything a few days after I got it, I came over from a Wm 6.5x device so I had no idea about anything to do with android. I've tried a ton of roms and finally settled on gingeritis 3d beta 6 with the burst theme and green mods, ziggys kernel and chingys new radio leak and I love it, although I do have working nandroids of bamf 3.0 and honeybread 2.0. My battery life is freaking awesome, 16-20hrs with moderate to heavy usage through out the day. Both 3g and 4g, wifi, and GPS work great for me here in Denver.

Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScoobarSTI:
I've had mine since launch day and could not be happier. I'm VERY picky when it comes to phones I've had 12 or so in the last 2 years. There's not a single thing I dislike it about it.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] voxigenboy:
the Thunderbolt itself is a nice phone, but considering i had an HD2(rooted w/ Android) and a Samsung Galaxy S 4G, it wasnt much different to them i thought. speed wise(phone, not internet) all 3 were very comparable + the 3G was faster on the other 2 then this Thunderbolt... and have yet to even see what 4G is like.

as for the monthly bill, yes ofcourse i knew what that would be i just thought "as long as i get this new blazing fast 4G-LTE its worth it". i didnt think to ask wether or not 4G was available considering all the commercials & billboards making a big deal out of it. so yeah, i didnt find out until after i got the phone that there was no 4G yet. i remember calling Verizon and they just made some generic response about how they're hoping to get 4G setup everywhere and was told it shouldnt be too long... more then 5 months ago...

aside from comparing it to the other 2 phones above, it does seem to have the worst battery life out of the 3 but id still rather have this Thunderbolt then any other Verizon phone because of the size/design and i like that little kick stand on the back of it. i just wish the kick stand opened the other way so i could charge it while the stand is open(and no i dont want a dock).
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SP1986:
No one to blame but yourself on that one.

It's a phone with a lot of potential - there's a great modding community here and the devs have pretty much worked out all the issues that the stock TBolt has. Bought it at launch and I still love it!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsmejson:
nice to bring my thread back :)

I've had my phone for just a little over 1mos now

and I've loved it ever since I got it. at first I was

very overwhelmed w/ all the menus/submenus/settings...

since I was coming from a basic blackberry curve.

after the learning curve the phone is pretty easy to

get around now.

I rooted it the day after I purchased it and have never

looked back.

I ran into my first issue w/ the device last night

when my 3g connection suddenly dropped and there was

no way for me to get it back I had 1x & 4g but no 3g.

after doing all the basic troubleshooting, speaking w/

customer support, i finally took it into the store and was

given a new sim card. it seems to have resolved the issue

but i have my fingers crossed that this does not happen again.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Classick206:
Awful battery life, constant standby overheating, no good ROM's, a kickstand that can't stop shedding it's laminate, a frame that is very easily chipped without ever being dropped. This phone is a bust and I'm going back to the iPhone as soon as i5 comes out. I can now say I gave Android a try, and it was the biggest mistake ever.:rolleyes:

If it wasn't for Verizon's amazingly fast 4G, I'd probably be suing HTC for knowingly selling this crap.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonami:
Stop chewing on your phone, lol! **** man what are you doing playing hockey with it or what?

Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eraursls1984:
Don't judge android because of HTC poor build quality. I think the main reason the quality of the thunderbolt sucks so bad is because HTC rushed it to be the first 4g phone. Have you tried BAMF roms? If you say they are not good then you don't know what is. BAMF stripped 1.8 has the best battery life and performance but if you have reboots on the old radios then remix 1.8.6 will alleviate that but the battery and performance aren't quite as good as stripped.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00s3y:
Have fun on 3G with the iPhone
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perfoliate:
There has been some missteps along the road through this whole thing but all and all I think the Thunderbolt rocks :D
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonami:
I dont get why people are saying their tbolt was poorly made. Mine is built like a tank. Although i have had an invisashield and seidio case on it since the day i got it, but then anybody who doesnt protect a $500

Peice of equipment is beyond me. Seriously though, mine is rock solid. And works like a champ... Maybe you guys got a dud or something, it happens.

Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dinclala:
I've had my TB for what seems like forever. When I first got it, I loved it, but was really disappointed with the battery life, so I rooted and started flashing roms. I'm running a th3ory rom now, and have had such great battery life, I can't imagine going back to any of the other phones I've had. I've run a TON of roms, and run a TON of different OC/UV settings, but for some reason I've always gone back to Th3ory roms, I've run all he has put out, and every one has made my TB seem so much better than the other android and iOS phones I've had. End of story? Love my TB now :)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Classick206:
I'd rather have a 3G phone that lasts me all day than a 4G phone that melts a hole in my pocket and doesn't make it to my noon lunch break on standby. And no one knows whether i5 will be 4G or not.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwiggington:
Nope i hate this phone the hotspots unusable speaker sounds like crap battery life is horrible keeps rebooting i will def be getting something else

Sent from my HTC Thunderfart
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Stomp_:
I was disappointed initially as well when I got this phone, but after spending time reading the XDA forums and seeing some of the capabilities after rooting, I have been a little more satisfied with my purchase of the thunderbolt. The only thing I wish could be a little better is battery life. Other than that I really love the phone. I guess im a HTC fan.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwiggington:
I feel this phone was rushed to fast but if people love the phone then more power to them i undestand no phone is perfect just wish they would of ran it across a few more test first

Sent from my HTC Thunderfart
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowisland:
If you like tinkering with your phone, get tbolt. If you want a solid phone with great battery life and GPU acceleration for UI get the iphone. Both are good. I personally cannot stand apple business model, but a lot of people don't mind.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lxJGTxl:
Had the phone so far for a month now and still loving it. Never had any reboot or any type of problem with it. Switched over from the Samsung Fascinate and no regrets. Battery life isn't to bad. Lasts me through the day in moderate use. Plus I have my car charger when I use it heavily. Plus 4G speeds are incredible.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JillyBohnson:
I'm on my 3rd thunderbolt in 3 months. My latest refurb reboots & the speaker sounds like horrible. Ready to give up, but hey at least I got a free extended battery when they tried to steal $570 from me.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mynameisfyl:
I've had my Thunderbolt for about three months but for some reason waited until yesterday to root it. I was impressed with the phone from the get-go, but since rooting it I can't stop playing with the damn thing.

I have an AT&T phone and an Atrix, but honestly the Thunderbolt seems to run faster, even when it was stock. Excited to see how it blows it out of the water now that I can overclock it.

The OP has probably made their decision by now...but hopefully they went this route.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ANDR0lD:
Had this TB since day 1, rooted and ROMed↓ and i have the following:

2750mah HTC extended

Two 1400mah HTC stock

Two 1700mah Amazon

And an external charger

I've had no reboot issues but obviously battery life had been a problem starting off. Love it now but we are being succeeded by the Vigor, ill be upgrading after battery life reports come in for the vigor probably 2 months after launch

sent from a 1.5ghz-Cyanogen 'Bolt

[ROM]Cyanogenmod 7 RC 1.5.2

[Kernel] AOSP BFS Drod .9

Waiting for the Vigor...
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devil_07:
Very Happy with Tbolt

Thunderbolt + Boot Manager + das BAMF Sense ROM + Droid Th3ory CM7 variant = 1 very happy Thunderbolt owner.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoulderGeek:
Now that I got Skyraider GingerBread on it, courtesy of our folks who left, it's freaking fantastic!

I was on teh fence about the TBolt, but I trusted the dev community. With Skyraider, it is trust well placed.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkaterOllie795:
Just a thought as the official gingerbread rom should be coming out in august and want my normal baseband back for the update. Can I get it back by wipeing my phone wih the sony erricson tool?

My original baseband isn't in the baseband collection so I can't flash it onto my phone using the flash tool.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spaarc:
Y don't u try using Sony Ericsson update service to foctory reset your phone to original eclair firmware

And the update will not depend on your current baseband so no need to worry