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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] doublecheese:
Hi people,

I am posting this message on HTC FACEBOOK site, I ask you all to copy&paste same message and post at HTC FB page. (correct where necessary, for example the year when you first bought your HTC, how many HTC you have had, etc...)

I am thinking that if we all unite and post same message we can create a chain reaction and force HTC to officialy reply to our questions. Otherwise they will get hundreds of the same long message on their Facebook page which they might not like people always complaint.

HTC Facebook site : http://www.facebook.com/HTC

Here is the message copy & paste & correct where necessary and post on HTC Facebook site.

NOTE:

HTC Facebook site will NOT allow you to post a message more than 1000 characters, so goto the Photo section and add an ordinary photo or add below photo , then your message can be as long as you wish

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Dear Peter Chou and HTC Employees.

Hear us.

I bought my first HTC phone in 2008 and it was a HTC Touch Pro.

I am currently on my 11th HTC phone right now and since the date I met HTC , I personally did not change my HTC to any other brand.

We have been loyal HTC customers since many years and we expect HTC to treat us the same way, otherwise our HTC love will not last forever. You are where you are because of us loyal customers.

Recently about a month ago, HTC C.E.O Peter Chou announced that HTC will be no longer locking the bootloaders from now on. I think this was a necessary move anyway since all other competion like Samsung and Motorola already offer unlocked bootloaders.

After reading Peter's comments here on HTC Facebook Page, I have pre-ordered the HTC SENSATION and the HTC FLYER.

I have received my both devices about 2 weeks ago but unfortunately they came with Locked (signed) bootloaders.

Currently there are thousands of people per day asking HTC when and how the unlocked bootloader process will start. The only reply we get from HTC is , "we are working on it and you will hear from us soon"

Dear HTC, we need some SPECIFIC ANSWERS from you rather than a pre-studied "we're working on it"

Now everybody is talking something and all we hear is speculation.

Please answer these questions with specific answers:

1) When will you start ?

2) How will the unlocking process begin ?

3) Which devices will get the unsigned bootloaders?

4) What about the Branded Devices

5) Is the process software or hardware related ?

If you answer these 5 simple questions, for sure everybody will be relaxed and we will give you enough time to breath and do your job rather than posting alot of dissatisfaction messages on your Facebook page.

If you noticed lately , you only get dissatisfaction messages posted on your website due to not giving any detailed info about the unlocking of the bootloaders.......

We all expect an OFFICIAL REPLY from you

Best Regards

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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sh3ph3rd:
How do I go about posting on HTC's wall? I feel like an idiot. Do I click the "like" button? Not a facebooker.

Nevermind, got it. Feel free to delete this post.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] doublecheese:
Just click the link and goto the wall and click on photo then paste the message and add a photo

Thats it
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wingdo:
Or you could just read this official announcement

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-unlocking-bootloaders-across-the-board-official-26155031/

Just sayin'

I mean seriously, they are not going to respond to every inquiry. Filling up their facebook page with the same post over and over again just relegates facebook to what it really is, a vast wasteland of nothing worth noting.

HTC has a lot on their plate, yes I want the flyer unlocked, but I also want my Thunderbolt with Gingerbread.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] yohann14:
Might be a good idea to fix some of the grammatical mistakes before starting this campaign.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mahesh_9j:
Posted the message on FB.....fingers crossed !!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Or you can try reading it. HTC's statement is about future phones. They have not been clear about whether existing products will be updated to unlock the bootloader. Also, the Flyer is not a phone. HTC has not been clear, and the OP wants clarification.

They don't have to respond to every inquiry. That is not the intent. HTC stated that they are changing their policy due to overwhelming customer response. This is due to people like the OP raising their voice, not from people waiting around for things to happen. And this is just one way we can voice our opinion to HTC. Its not completely clear to me how much attention HTC pays to their Facebook page. But it may well be as valid a form of communicating with them as any other. Writing letter or messages to companies or government is how a lot of things have gotten done, don't underestimate it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wingdo:
As a business person, I do not disagree with a letter / e-mail campaign, but I will say filling up a company's official FB page with complaints of which people should not even be complaining is not going to win any favors with HTC. You are correct, they are talking about FUTURE devices. Anyone who likes to root and flash 3rd party ROMs had to know the Flyer was locked down. It's been all over the intertubes. If you knowingly buy something which is locked, you should not expect a lot of sympathy over the fact it is locked. Do I want it unlocked? Yes, but not for any really good reason. I bought the Flyer specifically for the pen and "notes". Whatever ROM I may flash has to have sense and scribe built in. I cannot imagine why someone would fork out this kind of money to flash CM on it (and I sued CM the majority of my 18 months on the D1).

I also agree with another poster. *If* you are going to engage in a SPAM campaign to a company, please make sure it is spelling error free, grammatically correct and non nonsensical.

Again, I do not disagree with the intent or idea, strictly with the fact the idea is to SPAM HTC's official FB site with this.

Edit:

BTW, what happens if HTC picks a date for the unlocking of the Flyer and then misses it for some reason? Will everyone understand things go awry when making this happen OTA and they want to be sure it is safe, or will people start *****ing "hey it's 12:01 the next day and still no unlocked bootloader. ZOMFGWTFBBQ?????"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
This isn't spam. You, like many others, need to learn the definition of what spam is, before flinging that term around willy-nilly. This is a viewpoint, opinion, request by the OP. A suggestion to HTC on how to make their product better. That seems exactly what the HTC Facebook page is for. That's not spam.

On the other hand, should people just cut and paste his letter verbatim? I agree the answer is 'no'. But use it as an example, customize it to fit your situation/opinion and engage in the campaign in a meaningful way.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
You are right. For that reason HTC always answer to such request like: We don't know, don't ask but read our news channels.

My "translation": We are working on it (unlocked boot-loader for Sensation and Flyer) and when it's done then - and not before - we will inform you.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wingdo:
So aside from loose use of the word SPAM, we are in agreement that people should not just cut and paste this into HTC's official FB site.

HTC is not going to give release dates which can and most certainly will be missed, especially for something like unlocking a bootloader. The TB missed it's initial release date and it seemed like everyone on earth was up in arms judging by the amount of traffic people saw.

I am not even sure the bootloader will be un-lockable (yay for non existent words) via OTA. The odds of bricking may be too high for HTC to want to deal with. Their official statement is that going forward HTC devices will not have a locked boot loader. People should take that for what it means. *If* HTC decides to go back and unlock already out there devices I think that would be a very difficult thing to do from a reliability and certainty standpoint.

The OP bought the Flyer knowing the boot loader was locked. The OP did not return their Flyer during the return period (BB is 14 days). The OP bought exactly what was advertised, and is not satisfied and suggests to post the same complaint over and over again on an official welcome to HTC page. The BEST way to get companies to understand that you will not buy something with a locked boot loader is to not buy it in the first place.

I am dropping my sub to this thread as the point is lost on some.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
That's a heck of a lot of speculation on your part. And you may/may not be completely correct. But its really not too much to ask for HTC to clarify whether they intend to unlock the Flyer's bootloader or not.

The Flyer is a great device. Many on here, myself included, want an unlocked bootloader, root, S-Off; but don't feel its enough to be a deal breaker and not buy the device.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] doublecheese:
If everybody posted, at the same time , the same message (corrected the dates and phones according to him). Then for sure it would create an impact on HTC .

Since only a few acted, it's just another complaint message to the eyes of HTC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] (•.•):
Please HTC, build better phones!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
about the question what spam is: here we have it or I didn't understand still these mass of posts here... ?! :eek:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ieen:
So you're asking possibly hundreds of people to post a poorly constructed letter on the official HTC Facebook page.

I'll pass thanks :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Than take the time to write a better one, or think of a better idea, instead of just complaining about somebody else's effort.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] doublecheese:
I was just going to write the same thing but you beat me to it , thanks :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Well, the following news pretty much settles the question of whether a manufacturer can unlock the bootloader, if they really wanted to. Motorola's Gingerbread update for the Atrix comes with the ability to unlock the bootloader:

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/22/gingerbread-update-for-the-motorola-atrix-4g-brings-fully-unlockable-bootloader/

Also answers the question of how a manufacturer can offer an unlocked bootloader without the risk of bricking a bunch of the Flyer's out there (if that's even a real risk). In the case of the Atrix, it sounds like the user has to issue the command over ADB to unlock the bootloader, which also gives a warning that it may void your warranty. Seems like a pretty tidy way to do it. Anyone that really wants the bootloader unlocked is not going to have a problem with a simple ADB command. But those that don't care, don't have to mess with it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] doublecheese:
I am beginning to think that HTC is really working on unlocking the bootloaders and we will get our S-OFF soon ........
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Update: As of 29th April 2013, Relock bootloader file has been downloaded 80494 times!

As I already mentioned a week or two ago, there's unlock key in TA Misc after BL unlock.

This file removes the key, therefore relocks the bootloader.

Flash with FlashTool.

DRM can't be restored!

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/g1b5j712ajx4yjd/Xperia_Relock_bootloader.ftf

Feel free to donate if this helped you :)

Update:

If you unlocked your phone with SEtool/Omnius - any testpoint unlock solution - YOU CAN NOT RELOCK BOOTLOADER! IT'S PATCHED SO IT APPEARS LOCKED TO SE, BUT ACCEPTS UNSIGNED IMAGES VIA FASTBOOT! SO STOP ASKING ABOUT IT, AND STOP TRYING.

Also, there seems to be problem with Verizon Plays, usually this doesn't work for them, when unlocked via fastboot.

Enjoy ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] NielDK:
Good work man.

Gonna test it tomorrow to get my original firmware.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Anyone who downloaded and it failed... try again, this is fixed release.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mills00013:
Blagus, you're melting my brain with these releases, man! We can barely keep up!

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Thanks for your work in this community!

Do you think that the trick to locking and unlocking CDMA is similar?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
I'll see what I can do as soon as I get the device! With this trick I don't have to worry about one-shot opportunity! ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] thomassafca:
Will try it out, I am not able to flash a custom kernel or anything with a locked bootloader right?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Yes, and you can unlock again with same unlock key (yes, I'm back here, couldn't sleep :p)
[Xperia Play Android Development] Prozel:
Where is my "Blagus" userbar!?

Awesome work!
[Xperia Play Android Development] thomassafca:
Ok thanks! :)

Lol that's what I thought! xD
[Xperia Play Android Development] Nhialor:
Blagus, you are the man!

A few questions for you, but you don't have to answer if you don't want to :

1. What age are you (You seem very experienced)

2. When did you start coding and the likes

3. How did you get into this (I would like to start{have 2 years of coding under my belt, but lots more to learn still})
[Xperia Play Android Development] marvi0:
Thanks matey, just come across this thread, and want to try this at home, just a quick question, what exactly is contained, in the download link above, is it something we have to flash, or is it just a key, we have to input, in order to re lock bootloader, or all instructions are in the above download link? Thanks?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Flash with FlashTool.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
1. 16 in July, next month :p

2. I was always interested in programming and stuff, even before I had internet (2004 or 2005), I found Dev-C++ and I was making new programs by copying parts of source codes of example apps included :p

3. I got into SE game two and half years ago when I was googling sony ericsson free unlock. I found akshayy.com site where I started with patching and flashing. Later I got knowledge about GDFS and TA from forums, I was experimenting with my K530, and so on... Then I found Omnius team and started cooperating......
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
Talk about mad skills...
[Xperia Play Android Development] waz000000:
can also confirm OTA update worked for me after using this:

1: relocked bootloader

2: downgraded and used gingerbreak

3: updated via OTA

All fine.. well done Blagus
[Xperia Play Android Development] thomassafca:
Is the Like button in the mediaplayer working?

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Sorry, just saw what Blagus added to the first post :P
[Xperia Play Android Development] haydarm:
Will this trick somehow help with getting the radio back?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
No, since fastboot is still not enabled with this. However, this will most probably come in handy for such phones once fastboot is re-enabled since during unlock, security zone is kind of reset - new sim-unlocked one is calculated.
[Xperia Play Android Development] lezek:
Does this fix TrackID?
[Xperia Play Android Development] ebsglobal789:
Can I try to use this method on my bricked phone (get worse by used the patch "perset.ta as simlock.ta flashing")?
[Xperia Play Android Development] axiomjunglist:
Fooled me, wise and skilled beyond your years, great work Blagus! Your work here has been exceptionally helpful to us all. I wish my 16 year old self back in '94 was half as talented ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] thomassafca:
No it won't ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] AndroHero:
I thought blagus said if you do a full wipe, it will restore drm?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
The OP seems clear about it...
[Xperia Play Android Development] thomassafca:
That's what he thought indeed, but he changed it later :P
[Xperia Play Android Development] secretfile:
Tebre svaka cast za ovo, radi kao zmaj... naravno prvo sam morao da brick-ujem telefon ali sa ovim OTA cepa.

Pozdrav iz Srbije, samo ovako nastavi ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] thenotdone:
Blagus,

You've saved my skin! I was getting overzealous with the modifying and found myself unable to boot (black screen, no splash, no boot) I flashed the generic UK firmware and then your bootloader locker and voila! I got er goin again! Thanks!
[Xperia Play Android Development] Lef.teris:
Hi!!

It's the same file with one of arc?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
yes. same for all xperias.
[Xperia Play Android Development] muhski:
I copied your file and posted it on a german Board.

I hope that's fine with you ;-)

Check
[Xperia Play Android Development] NielDK:
Forgiveness better than permission?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
He's not saying he's sorry either :p

I would say if Blagus didn't want this posted elsewhere he would have said so in advance. Still, it'd have been better to ask first.
[Xperia Play Android Development] muhski:
Haha maybe you guys are right :)

But I'm not sorry ;-)

This hole scene just works because knowledge is shared!

And it's not like I copied it and said that I wrote it...

In my post it's clear that it's not my work and I linked to this post to show where it comes from. So I think it's ok ;-)
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
But I'd like if you could link to original mediafire link. That way I can track downloads count. Every other site I know that published this, linked to my original file.

Thanks.
[Xperia Play Android Development] muhski:
Changed the link!

Thanks for your permission ;-)
[Xperia Play Android Development] imperialrealcs:
hi i just got my xperia play and i've read about if bootloader unlocked my warranty is as good as nil.. but upon stumbling this thread it kept me wonder:

if i were to unlock bootloader and root my phone, and in case my phone need warranty, can i relock bootloader? is it traceable?

now im running on build Android 2.3.3 firmware: 3.0.1.A.0.145..

thanks alot!
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
Unlocking your bootloaders foes't void your warranty. Rooting does.

And the fact that you're asking if the bootloader can be relocked in the very same thread where they tell you how is almost offensive.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Scorbion:
who you'r talking to??? xD
[Xperia Play Android Development] thatsupnow:
Well that's just wrong and backwards, unlocking bootloader voids warranty rooting it does not void warranty
[Xperia Play Android Development] sonicfreak360:
Think logically guys, both rooting and unlocking your bootloader voids warranty. Both let you change your phone, and could be used for things like warranty scam.
[Xperia Play Android Development] muhski:
I've got an issue here:

I read about the new update for the PLAY and relocked my bootloader.

Then my PC-Compagnion did not find any update, so I unlocked my bootloader again.

The problem is: my phone was resetet! all apps and contacts were gone...

I did a nandroid-backup before, so it's no problem...

Bu I wonder if this is normal!?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
It's completely normal that phone data is wiped after unlock. It doesn't matter if it's first, second, or fifth time since phone doesn't know that, EROM knows only that it's locked and unlock scheme is to wipe DRM and data, and unlock.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Logseman:
That is wrong. See the reasoning:

Rooting is a modification of the phone's software. So is unlocking bootloaders. Sony does not give you a path to root any device, therefore you expect to lose your warranty if you root it.

On the contrary, Sony does give you a path to unlock bootloaders (on the R800i ) and they don't tell you thay you waiver your warranty. There are other brands which do, like Archos. But Sony doesn't, as long as you unlock the bootloaders in the Sony-approved way in Sony-approved devices.

The case of the R800x is different, since Sony hasn't given any official BL unlock path. There, both rooting and unlocking BL's waivers your warranty.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mills00013:
And I doubt even that will be the case too much longer.... :D

Blagus, what do you need to check to see if this would work on CDMA plays?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
I just need you to flash this via FlashTool. Without forgetting to take TA backup via Omnius first.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Mills00013:
I have my TA backup already made so I should be good to go there. If this flash fails, is flashtool able to restore TA files yet or would I need to purchase another Omnius license again?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
If anything breaks, I'll get you license ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] Nhialor:
just flashed stock ftf, gonna relock the bootloader and then see what happens :P
[Xperia Play Android Development] Hemingsent:
Any luck?
[Xperia Play Android Development] das7771:
Can anyone tell my how to back up my TA settings. I downloaded Omnius for SE v.22 and when I go to backup TA it says to connect my phone. So I press the search button and plug in the usb, the blue light comes on but nothing happens. It just show action progress at the bottom but it never does anything. I check to make sure fastboot was working buy doing the whole getvar command and i do get a return of 3 so that means it connected correctly right. Any help would be appreciated.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Read again. It says back button, not search.
[Xperia Play Android Development] das7771:
Damn, I think I have been doing to much reading. Do you acutally have to pay for omnius or is there a free version that can be used.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
TA backup is free ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] das7771:
Thanks man...Well I tried pressing the correct button and now the green LED comes on but nothing happens...I guess I got more reading to do and try to figure this out. Thanks for the quick replies Blagus.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
NP ;) you need GGSEMC 2.2.0.5 drivers. you can find them in Omnius install folder ;)
[Xperia Play Android Development] das7771:
I figured I didnt have the right driver just didn't know where to look for them. I will try that now.
[Xperia Play Android Development] das7771:
Blagus,

I hate to keep bothering you, but when you say i need GGSEMC 2.2.0.5 drivers do I use that driver and install it when I see my phone listed as the S1 boot download under device manager. I cant back up my TA for nothing and it's driving me nuts man. I really want to unlock but not until I back up first. I am assuming the driver is located in the omnius install folder under usb flash 2.2.0.5. Also does it matter that I am using win 7 x64

Update:

Nevermind....For some reason my desktop would not install the driver properly, as soon as I tried it on my laptop it worked the first try...Sorry for being a PITA
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Win7 x64 is known for suchh problems, I've experienced it...
[Xperia Play Android Development] das7771:
Both my desktop and my laptop are x64, but for some reason when using adb and other android related programs I have had more success using my laptop than my desktop. I guess I will just stick to my laptop when doing things like this.
[Xperia Play Android Development] brainard52:
how do I flash with flashtool?
[Xperia Play Android Development] JelloFreak:
Will this work with CDMA phones?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
yes.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Prozel:
And it is possible to update OTA when it's relocked?
[Xperia Play Android Development] Blagus:
Yes, OTA is possible.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Prozel:
Awesome! :D
[Xperia Play Android Development] DAVIDGBJONES:
Hi, when I did this my phone wouldn't boot, I had to refresh the firmware with flash tool to get my phone working again. Is this normal? Thanks