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[Verizon Droid Charge] pH_:
Word has it that the tired data plans are only for new plans and that existing customers - even those that upgrade after the tired plans are in effect will not be affected. My referance: droid-life.com/2011/06/21/current-verizon-customers-wont-be-affected-by-tiered-data-only-new-customers-and-lines/

As for the charge - I was thinking that I should wait for a dual core phone with the latest and greatest processor but this phone is plenty fast and the network has much more an effect on usability than how fast a quadrant score you get.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jefe1955:
"whenever you got new e mail or txt message there was and LCD that flashed on the device....with the Charge...there is no LCD notification"

I use the highly-rated noled, available on the android market, to handle notifications and it works well for me. I don't miss the dedicated led that was on my Droid 1.
[Verizon Droid Charge] binglejellsx2:
Don't mean to pick on you... but have you looked at the XDA site??? :o:confused:;)
[Verizon Droid Charge] PeterDLai:
Wow, did not even realize our stock Droid Charges were xda-themed...
[Verizon Droid Charge] distortedloop:
LOL, never really noticed the similarity between xda and Charge's color theme. Clearly similar, but it's much more orange and stark on the Charge. On my MacBook the forum here looks brown and shades of off-white/tan, not dark brown and stark orange.

To the OP, no, in hindsight I would not buy the Charge again, especially at this late date. I bought it because I love SAMOLED screens, and I wanted a second LTE unlimited data phone on the family plan before they went away.

My suggestion at this point is if you want to buy an LTE phone for that reason, buy either the Charge or the TB in the next week or two AT COSTCO. You'll lock into the data plan, but Costco gives you 90 days to swap the phone for a different model if you're not happy with it. Hopefully the Bionic or Galaxy S 2 or some LTE phone that actually has a nice screen and decent battery life and non-lagged performance will be out and you can swap for it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] alohasurf0007:
Thanks all for your feedback. And the note about Costco is very interesting. I saw the other day they were selling it for $180, with extras.

I'm looking to find more information about the %20 corp discount change. Currently my wife has that on her line, and it's not something I'd be happy about loosing if that's the case.
[Verizon Droid Charge] acPIZZA:
I'm digging this phone. Like the screen and its physical buttons. Lte is great and plentiful in my area. Going to root and flash gummycharge when I get home.
[Verizon Droid Charge] bash_array:
Definitely go with the charge... no boot loader locks, easy odin flashing, plenty of dev work, best looking non iphone screen on the market, great battery life, comes with a 32gb sdcard,
[Verizon Droid Charge] imnuts:
I would get it again, but if I were already on a Fascinate (or other SGS phone) and looking to upgrade without the intention of locking in unlimited 4G/data, then I'd stay with what I had. Regardless of what you have now, if you're looking to upgrade to a 4G phone, I'd say the Charge is the one to have.
[Verizon Droid Charge] vodkaequalslove:
This is not entirely correct. Existing smartphone users will not be affected, if you already have unlimited data, you're good. If you don't have it on July 7th, you're not getting it, period.
[Verizon Droid Charge] PeterDLai:
Oh wow nice idea, 90 days is quite some time.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Kamar234:
Yeah, I just picked up my Charge yesterday to lock in my lte data. I always buy at costco, I'll be good to pick up any phones that come out until the end of August. By the way, the computers for Verizon code 4g and 3g differently in the system, even if they cost the same. I spoke to the rep there and he showed my fascinate line was a 3g device and the charge said 4g device in Verizon's system on his screen. He said the change happened a month or so ago. I called customer service and she said she couldn't comment on unreleased information, but "hypothetically" if you have a 3g plan and are grandfathered, and then get a 4g phone after unlimited goes away, even though the 4g plans cost the same, you will be seen as having a different data package in Verizon's system and be forced to pay the tiered pricing. Verizon isn't stupid.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Blaqhawk:
Just to clarify.........

I have an SGS (Vibrant), but am going to switch to Verizon soon (before 6 July). I called a Verizon Customer Service rep yesterday and asked about the data info. Long story short, If you have "an unlimited data plan" (3G/4G - doesn't matter), you will be grandfathered in to the unlimited data for $30 until you upgrade your phone or 2 years, whichever is first. If you get a new phone withing the next two years, you will be forced into the new tiered data plan. If you keep the same phone for two years, at the end of that 2 years, you will be forced to switch to the tiered data plan. AT&T is doing the same thing once it acquires T-Mobile. Hope this helps and clarifies info for someone.

-Adam
[Verizon Droid Charge] Cruiserdude:
Well that goes against what Droid-Life is saying, and AC and Engadget are repeating, that existing smartphone customers will be able to keep their existing unlimited plans when they upgrade. That's what most of the data out now suggests, and the fact that some CSR's are repeating it and there seems to be a few documents out now seems to confirm it. There's a pretty huge difference between us being able to upgrade and keep unlimited or not after the 7th, and VZW can't afford to have confusion being spread by their employees. So I would think that if they were not allowing us to upgrade keeping unlimited, they would have made it very clear to their employees from the beginning, rather than leaving it ambiguous, or even suggesting something that wasn't true.

Regardless, if we accept that as true, which most people do at this point, we still don't know what they'll count as a change or not. People who bought smartphones off ebay but never got a smartphone when renewing their contract likely won't be eligible, since they aren't technically smartphone customers in VZW's system. We also don't know if people switching to or from Blackberries and iPhones will be counted as having the same plan as an Android device. And the big question is whether someone with an unlimited 3g plan can get a 4g device and keep that unlimited plan. There doesn't seem to be any difference between the plans, but there definitely is, and they could definitely force you to switch to tiered if upgrading to an LTE phone. They haven't said this will be the case, but there hasn't been any info to suggest it won't be.

For this reason alone I'd definitely buy the Charge again. I had no smartphone before, and was able to buy the best LTE smartphone available before D-Day nearly a month ago for $150. I'm locked in to LTE unlimited at least with this phone, and the only "if" is whether VZW will allow us to upgrade to a similar device and keep the plan, since I'll only be going to another LTE Android in the future I'm sure. It won't matter to me whether they distinguish between 3g and 4g plans.

But yeah, the device itself is great, too! Best screen on the market, awesome camera and the ffc is decent, the shape is quite nice once you get used to it, battery life is quite good considering what it is and how heavily I use it, there's a ton of development with much more likely to come, and the SGS platform is still strong hardware. Sure, its not the most powerful thing around anymore by any means, but it'll hold its own, especially with some help from the awesome devs! :cool: So yeah, it'll get old after awhile, but I expect the development will keep me happy for quite some time. And there's nothing out there that would be worth missing out on unlimited 4g data for. I REALLY don't want tiered, even if I have to upgrade at full price from here on out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] el_brio:
My wife and I were in the same position. We both had blackberries and were able to get new phones in June. I heard about the tiered data BS so I started looking for phones so I could lock in unlimited 4G.

After searching/reading about Verizon's 4G phones, I decided to go with the charge with the TB being a close second. What made the decision for me was the screen and the better battery life. (I just got the phone 2 days ago... wife gets hers today)

What I like about the Charge:

Screen is the best I have seen. Really looks great.

Battery life is reasonable

What I don't like:

Cheap plastic construction. (Although I will be putting mine in a holster w/screen cover... so I guess light plastic is better than metal which would get covered anyway). And when I say cheap... I mean cheap. It seems like it is a very soft plastic between the bezel and the back plate. I already got a small nick in mine and I have been babying it until I get a case. Buttons feel good and screen looks great but the chassis sucks.

Worse-than-usual terrible verizon bloatware. Seriously Verizon. **** YOU. If I want all your crap, I would download it. At least make it deletable you ****ing assholes. Ohhh... and thanks for the non-deletable bookmarks to your ****ty websites. I will be rooting and freezing this PURE UNADULTERATED CRAP asap.

No case included with the phone. Even a cheap slip-on plastic sleeve would be nice to tide you over until you have time to order a case.

I don't have much experience with Android (have a couple month old Transformer) but I am pretty sure I am going to hate touchwiz. A lot of things are just plain weird about it.

Anyway, if you have any specific questions, ask away. One other thing to consider is that the TB will have a lot larger dev community than the charge. Then again, as long as I can root and get a good ROM I don't care that much.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Ted A:
I was a proud owner of DROID X and the fact that it is metal, solid and heavy, everyone who tried and held it thought it screamed high quality. Then I bought the latest TPU (google it) cover skin for the DROID X because I had every intention of dumping it once VZW came with 4G phone. With the TPU skin on, my friends' frame of mind was completely changed. Since they can't touch and feel the cold metal surface, their subsequent reaction was that the phone is way too heavy, how could you carry a brick like that in your khaki pants, you're going to kill me with that, aren't ya?, etc., etc. It was comical. Fast forward 11 months, they're touching and feeling my Droid Charge that's also covered with TPU skin. Their first reaction was, "wow what a screen. This thing fits so nicely in the hand and soooo light, and they can fit all that power in a small and extremely light package, and still have similar sized, 4.3" screen as your old Droid X" (paraphrased). I showed them the two phones, side by side, in their TPU skins with the same "Verizon red" color. FYI, the TPU skin has a semi rigid, smooth and shinny skin. It hides the Droid Charge's thin plastic (spelled light) body and gives it a rigid feel to it, not unlike the similarly skinned DROID X. My 2c.
[Verizon Droid Charge] el_brio:
Exactly. First of all, I have absolutely ZERO trust in anything that Verizon says... and less than zero trust in anything their reps say. My wife and I had 3G unlimited plans for $30 (Blackberry). Personally, I would have waited until the newer phones came out in a couple of months before switching... but at this point all we have is a "promise" (do we even have that really?) that we could get grandfathered in. I am guessing that the new iPhone 5 will have 4G and they will want to get people off the unlimited plans because netflix and the like are going to absolutely hammer their bandwidth otherwise.

In short, my unlimited plan MAY have carried over... but there is nothing in writing saying that it will. With a new contract, I am safe and can cancel if they change my terms after-the-fact. I wouldn't be surprised if on July 7th they issue a clarification on the issue after it is too late.
[Verizon Droid Charge] samo615:
I got mine yesterday. Felt the pressure to make the jump from AT&T iPhone 3GS while I can get in on the unlimited verizon data plan. The charge is a huge upgrade for me and I feel like I own an actual phone now rather than a toy. I'm rooting tonight.

Gotta say this. The small hump at the bottom has taken some getting used to. On a desk (where I am most of the day), the phone does not quite lay flat and the screen points away. I am hoping I get used to it. I definitely did not feel like I should go with the Revo over the body style because when it came down to it, the revo is about as thick as the hump all the way through. Take the 'culo' off the bottom of the phone and it is perfect as far as I'm concerned. I'm also colorblind so you won't hear any complaints about the brown and yellow or whatever color scheme ;)
[Verizon Droid Charge] Lugard:
I would buy it again in a second.... Im I love the screen, and once rooted so much faster than my d2g.
[Verizon Droid Charge] binglejellsx2:
The attached photo is probably what this person was talking about. It's an actual screenshot of my current plan from the online VZW services site. (BTW when does the hotspot promo actually end?)

I had to activate my phone myself because there was a discrepancy with my upgrade info. So finally, I get the lady on the phone to get me an upgrade and tells me all the changes she's doing to my plan. A 4G line needed to be added, and then later she said it was replacing my 3G plan.

Anyways, to get back to the attached pic... Before activating the Charge, I was on the Moto Droid. All of my data plans that were 3G are now replaced with the 4G you see in the pic.

And if I'm violating any terms by posting this photo, or have anything personally identifiable, please let me know.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Cruiserdude:
Mine says the same thing, 4G is in 3 different places under my plan features, so its definitely a different plan. Whether Verizon will be extra nice and allow those with 3g plans to upgrade to one remains to be seen, but it isn't likely given their reasoning for tiered in the first place. I really don't see their incentive, considering their 3g still beats the competition and as long as you could keep your unlimited 3g plan you aren't actually losing anything.

So I would say the safest bet by far is grabbing a Charge at this point, before the changeover. Otherwise you're counting on nothing but Verizon's altruism, which isn't exactly legendary.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Arrive Early Leave Late:
Are you sure CostCo lets you exchange for ANOTHER phone? It doesn't have to be the same phone?
[Verizon Droid Charge] craigg1:
The Charge isn't perfect but it's the best phone that Verizon currently offers. With root and a few mods it's a fairly decent device. Until something better comes along it is my phone of choice.
[Verizon Droid Charge] SuperFly03:
I've had a Thunderbolt, HTC Sensation and Charge in the last month (don't ask, long story). Without question the Charge is the best phone out of the group. Thunderbolt is a POS, Charge is just bastardly awesome. Love it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Blaqhawk:
Yes. If you do it through the online store, you don't need a membership. You do not have to exchange it with the same phone. Down side is that you lose your phone for 2 weeks during the exchange because you have to mail it in. Your other option is to pay full price for the new phone (the one your exchanging the old one for) and get reimbursed for the difference later.

From my Rooted Vibrant

Bionix V

XDA Premium
[Verizon Droid Charge] alohasurf0007:
I got the Charge. So far I'm loving it! The screen is beautiful. My 4G is a little spotty, but when I have it, it's blazing. I got 29 Mbps yesterday from speakeasy speed test.

My biggest complaint is battery life. I only get about 5 hours of moderate use out of it. Any suggestions for improving that? I'd really like to get through a full day. Does 4G drain my battery when the screen is off (possible background apps, and the fact that my 4G drops frequently). Are there any good widgets to switch 4G on/off? Any other tips for a new owner like me?
[Verizon Droid Charge] distortedloop:
Costco is very liberal about returns. I didn't even ask this at the phone section the Costco employee made a point of telling me this was the case. He specifically said if I didn't like the phone, I could bring back in 90 days for different model.

I'd read anecdotes online from people saying they've done this, which was why I to Costco for the Charge in the first place.

Sent from Thunderbolt
[Verizon Droid Charge] Blaqhawk:
The online store has a different set of rules than the kiosk inside Costco. Therefore, the "online" store can offer better deals. I know this because I called and spoke with someone. Hope that clarifies this for someone.

From my Rooted Vibrant

Bionix V

XDA Premium
[Verizon Droid Charge] Cruiserdude:
-Turn of wifi, bluetooth, and gps when not needed. You can do the same for mobile data if you're gonna make a call or leave it on standby for awhile, just use the switches in the pull-down notification bar.

-On-screen widgets use up a lot of battery, even more if they update themselves regularly, best to delete the ones you don't really use. Check to see what all programs are synching regularly, and extend the intervals or prevent them from auto-synching altogether (different for different apps, just check their settings).

-Disable auto-brightness in your display settings, and adjust the brightness manually by holding down on the notification bar and sliding your finger right and left. Keep it on the lowest setting that still allows you to see the screen with no problems.

-If your 4g keeps dropping, you either have old basebands or live in an area with spotty LTE coverage. Go into About Phone under Settings and make sure you have EE4 basebands. If not, accept the OTA update to get the latest ones. If you still drop 4G alot, you're in a spotty area, and should just disable it for now. Set it to CDMA only from LTE Automatic in your Wireless and Network settings. You're not likely getting fast LTE anyway if the signal is really weak, and a weak signal will cause your phone to boost its own power, killing your battery.

-Keep using your phone and running the battery down till it dies, then charging it to full while the phone is off. Do this for the first few days. Your battery life will continue to improve as it breaks in.

-There are a number of other improvements you can make once you take the plunge and start with rooted and modified software. Debloating, voodoo lagfix, certain ROMs, faster kernels, undervolting, etc can all make a big difference. But everything I mentioned previously can be accomplished on a stock device.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ten mile stereo:
Im looking to trade my Samsung Galaxy S 2 unlocked w/ official Samsung car mount, Casemate protective case, and a 16 GB micro SD card for a Droid Charge and some cash. It works on AT&T and T moble.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] txt3rob:
Got a new galaxy s1 on o2 and updated it to gingerbread 2.2.3

when the girlfriends mum texts her it add's an extra 7 to her mobile number so when replying to a text it will not send.

tried the following:

remove mum contact from both sim / google / phone

left it off and her mum texts and the number shows up as the usual +44

when go to reply it will come up with an extra 7 in the digits and unable to text her mum back.

any one else had this weird issue or is it worth a complete wipe and reinstall and export all contacts to google?

i've backed the contacts up to a vcard.

any one any ideas apart from the usual recovery?
[General Questions and Answers] TechKidTarek:
What is the maximum signature size for the user cp on xda as i am trying to design a nice signature and would like to know the biggest size i am allowed
[General Questions and Answers] tr1zrus:
good question
[General Questions and Answers] Dark3n:
I beleive there is no fixed signature limit.

It depends on the content and look of your signature.

Just keep it normal ~5-6 lines.

If it is to big people might report it to a moderator or a mod will see it himself and ask you to change.

There are some exceptions:

Recognized Developers are permitted to have a bigger signature.

Mods & Admins are probably allowed allowed to have a signature as big as they want :p.
[Epic 4G General] benisilin:
I have an Epic 4g. Android froyo 2.2 is nice an all but ive searched and searched and searched some more....how the hell do I get vanilla froyo 2.2 for my Epic? Is it possible? Thanks for any help...
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
Go here and follow the instructions for video on how to check qb link in my sig

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1052813

I know the it is for unbricking your phone but still the same files and procedures
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
You don't. There aren't any AOSP froyo roms for the Epic.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Not what he's asking.
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
Sorry I thought about it after I posted. In the PC world vanilla is "stock" sorry got my signals crossed.
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
trying using the sprint id app and use their launcher, its kinda the same thing unless you want the complete experience
[Epic 4G General] benisilin:
Thank you for the quick response, I will try the link that you posted. I tried the Sprint ID app, but yes, I want the full experience of Vanilla Froyo.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
That isn't going to give you "vanilla" froyo ( that isn't the correct term, AOSP is stock android). You have to wait for Cyanogenmod to be finished.
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
Give my midNIGHT (BYOR Edition) ROM a try.... That will be as stripped down as it comes. Only add back what you want.
[Galaxy 3 General] ->PhoeniX<-:
Please Help!!

I've flashed my Galaxy 3 to 2.2 but now I have to send it back because of the warranty, so I need to flash it to a branded 2.1. Here is my question: does anybody know where I can find a branded 2.1 FW form the german provider 1&1. Thank you for answering
[Galaxy 3 General] rahn1967:
I5800XXJH1 samfirmware.com

Orginale ROM Provider German 1&1

Flash per Odin!
[Galaxy 3 General] ->PhoeniX<-:
You are the best!

Big thx!!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antmon:
am currently on SRF 1.1 and want to get to 1.2

i read that it is compatible with CWM 3.0 but it also says that 3.1 is required....

do i need to do anything to download a neww/diff kernel? i believe i only downloaded one zip file when i went to 1.1, from stock froyo, and everything was included...

my phone/sd card is also riddled with junk so sorta like a pc, i would like to just nuke everything every once in a while and load the o/s and my apks from scratch ;-)

does this order make sense:

1- wipe/format phone storage

2- wipe/format my sd card

3- install cwm 3.1

4- flash to stock froyo

5- odin the recommended SRF 1.2 modem

6- flash the rom (believe only Standard currently exists but TW4 addon would sorta make it like Full?

7- install my apks

thanks!

ps do i need to install a kernel somewhere in between the above steps?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qbking77:
All you have to do is upgrade your 3.0.0.6 clockwork to 3.0.2.5 found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13693020

Just flash the zip through clockwork and reboot.

Then boot back into clockwork and flash the 3.1.0.1 upgrade found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1115999

Then reboot.

Then go back into clockwork and just flash 1.2 without wiping! If you have problems with 1.2, then wipe everything 3X each (data, cache, and dalvik cache) and flash.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antmon:
thanks for the reply....

so, i will update CWM and flash the 2.1 rom....

few more questions pls...

what is it with the Syndicate instructions regarding flashing the modem first....i take it that is if i wasn't on 1.1 already?

also, why does it specifically say that there is no kernel.... do i need to install a different one?

finally, if i do want to wipe out the phone and sd....should i do the cwm/rom install before or after that?