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[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
The screen sizes are the same.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Derp.

But aspect-ratio and form factor are definitely not.

I think it sucks, I think it sucks really really bad and I think it just might be a deal breaker for me...I'll give it time, but, I really really hate it right now.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrrick:
:) ^

Sent @ 04:20
[HTC EVO 3D] mbh87:
different aspect ratios. thinner and taller, just like motorola phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] frank828:
uhh

i'm holding both devices in front of me.

yeah it's 4.3" diagonal... but it's definitely not as wide a screen
[HTC EVO 3D] zone23:
How are they the same? The EVO 3D is taller and skinnier. To my eyes they are different. Not sure what you consider different but they are to me. The EVO 4G is fatter.
[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
I have both devices. I am loving it!
[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
I'm speaking about the screens. Of course the phone is thinner...
[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
This^
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Evo is 15:9, Evo3D is 16:9, bezel is nearly identical.
[HTC EVO 3D] frank828:
i'm talking about the perceived size.

DDiaz, i know yours got delivered today, are u saying you dont think the 3D feels and looks smaller? or have you not got to play around with the phone yet?
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
The Evo 4G is wider by about 1/4" to 3/8"

For me its about the same size as my Hero. But the screen will cover most of that space.

For those coming from an Evo 4G it is a noticeable difference. Didn't people already know this.
[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
It does feel smaller. The guys that mentioned aspect ratios, is what I'm talking about. Sorry for the confusion.
[HTC EVO 3D] DDiaz007:
I really like this form factor, time to start the activation process.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Aside from the bootloader this has been my only concern...and after holding (the mockup) in my hand I must say that I am even more concerned now...and that suuuuuucks.

I really, really really really really hated it....but, we'll see once I get to play with it....but...i can imagine web browsing sucking a lot, though the resolution will still ensure I get MORE information on the page....but I was looking forward to simply having smoother fonts of the same size, but that would render my webpages completely effed up in portrait, and completely irritating in landscape...

...very very close to a deal breaker, but, I'll keep an open mind for a few weeks....but I'm getting heartbroken...I love my monster.
[HTC EVO 3D] mbh87:
I preferred the screen size of my Thunderbolt vs my Droid X, kind of a bummer they changed it but you get use to it.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I'm a tall guy with big hands...the Evo4G was a perfect fit, one handed scrolling and swyping....a smaller phone would be....I dunno...very awkward...but...we'll see. Perhaps I'm making a bigger deal out of this than it is, but, sadly I don't think so.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
dude... we get it... you hate the forum factor. Relax a little.

What did you do before the evo?
[HTC EVO 3D] ebolamonkey3:
Same reaction I had when I switched from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mayonesa:
Yes this thing feels small. The back cover is thin too
[HTC EVO 3D] dfin13:
Off topic, but judging by your screen name -- Lifetime fan?
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Relaxed...lol

My Evo has been my constant information spouting personal communication and entertainment (and navigation,etc etc etc) companion for the past year and some...This kind of change is, umm, jarring.

That and I'm wound up like a top right now over this...and I quit smoking recently....I think it shows.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
of what?

+10char
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
I'm moving from the Hero to this, but I was hoping that it would be as wide as the Evo 4G, but regardless I will be getting it.
[HTC EVO 3D] dfin13:
Haha sorry, "Daneurysm" is the name of a song by a band from the 90's called Lifetime.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
ah....No, my name is Dan and "Aneurysm" is one of my favorite songs by Nirvana....plus, it's just such a cool sounding word...unfortunate condition, but cool sounding word.

....if I hate this form factor as much as I think I do I just might have an aneurysm....
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
That's what she said?

Went by my local store today to get a look at the 3d, but didnt see one in the store, the sale people were busy and I didnt want to wait. I hope that it's not a deal breaker for me, but I guess I'll have to wait and see, the biggest deal breaker right now is the bootloader issue, but I'm waiting untill it gets rooted b4 i purchase anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] wrxlvr:
I'm looking forward to it. Always felt the 4G was just a little too wide. This should be perfect. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] slayer69:
I held the evo and 3d side by side. The screen size is the same....it is thinner but not enough to really make that much of a difference. I welcome the thinner feel. Fits better in the hand......and no she did not say that!!!! lol
[HTC EVO 3D] thesabri:
it looks and feels smaller... i know the screens are supposed to be the same size but still feels and looks smaller... odd b/c it is longer.. idk ill have to use it and see if i like it in a few weeks
[HTC EVO 3D] napalm5479:
I'm coming from having a t-horrible Galaxy S phone so I don't think this will bother me as much as some of you guys that have had a EVO's for so long. I do have a EVO 4G right now until my 3D gets in then its the swap out for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] bryangene:
THIS PHONE IS TOO SMALL FOR MY BIG AMERICAN HANDS! :mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] nfaust01:
First thing I though too. What is the OP on? I want some....
[HTC EVO 3D] Vdubtx:
1/4" to 3/8" wider???

From HTC site:

Evo is 4.8L 2.6W 0.5D

Evo 3D is 5L 2.6W 0.47D

Remind me not to let you ballpark a measurement when cutting some lumber. :p:D
[HTC EVO 3D] ScrapMaker:
It is definitely smaller, but not bad for me, and I have pretty big hands.
[HTC EVO 3D] treckin:
This. I hate backwards progress.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
These are the numbers that

Reassured me the entire time...i just hate the narrowness....time will tell.

Sent from my PC36100
[HTC EVO 3D] Kingmac38:
Oh but fits so well in my small Taiwanese hands lol
[HTC EVO 3D] flyboy1100:
My wife has a 3rd gen Itouch and I have a 4th gen, I prefer the 4th because the screen has a much higher resolution. The evo will be the same, can't wait till this weekend when I can pick one up!
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Azhad:
Last version of remote RDP https://market.android.com/details?id=app-org.toremote.serversmanager added full mouse over and left/click functions.

Pretty awesome :)

Inviato dal mio Transformer TF101 usando Tapatalk
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] frosty5689:
I'm waiting for Splashtop to add right click support, Windows RDP is way too slow to do anything over the net.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] eli.kennedy:
Awesome! I've been using 2x which has also been very satisfactory for a free app.

RDP has really turned my TF into a viable work from home solution. The only thing I'm still struggling with is Cisco VPN - but I hear the android anyconnect client is in Beta and not far off public release.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] nttdemented:
OOoohhh!! I'm gonna try this out tomorrow at my clients. :) Been using LogMeIn when I'm remote and Wyse Pocket Cloud when I'm at the clients but they both need to be used with the finger on the touch screen.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] dude2k5:
VPN Connections might work, it works for me. Google, im not sure its on the android market.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
It's very good but I can't get the right mouse button to work. Still acts as "back" with touchpad and external mouse.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Azhad:
You need honeycomb 3.1

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
I have 3.1
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
Has anyone actually managed to get the right click to work?

I've tried combinations of settings but nothing I do ever results in the right mouse button doing anything other than "back".

I'm on WW 3.1
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] arthurbrownleeiv:
Long press works as the right click/context menu button.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
Yes, I know.

The app supposidly supports a physical right button though. So far it would appear that in fact it doesn't.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] dude2k5:
I emailed the dev and he said that he tried a bluetooth mouse. So he got that to work I think? But he didnt try the transformer. So I sent him a log and I hope he can find it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] dude2k5:
Im happy to say that he emailed me back and fixed it. The update was pushed a few minutes ago, just tried. Right click support ftw. This thing is awesome. ^_^
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
Awesome, downloading.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
Updated and tested. Works perfectly now.

This is without a shadow of doubt, the best RDP client there is.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] SoundSurfer:
I agree..

BTW, for me the best config is 1280x750 ...
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] rilot:
That's what I'm using too. I've actually set 2 profiles for my home server, one for when I'm on another network that is optimised for performance, and another for when I'm home optimised for appearance.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Techronico:
WOW!!! This Dev is awesome. RDP client is exactly as it should be. Has anyone gotten the VNC Client to work made by this Dev? I keep getting "Cant create handler inside thread that has not called looper.prepared()". Also getting FCs every so often. Have not successfully connected to VNC Server that are tested to work fine with WYSE Pocket cloud.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Techronico:
This guys got skills... Getting the trackpad and right click to work fixed all the "not quite netbook but close" arguements. This is now the full Tablet/Netbook hybrid to kill off the rest. Still looking to get VNC client working.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] eyz:
how do i use my TF that is connected to the internet by bluetooth tethering to connect remotely with this?

or through iphone personal hotspot?

can anyone advice?

thanks.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Techronico:
Just purchased the VNC Pro version from this Dev and now the Remote VNC app is running perfect. I guess it cost money for the program to work (j/k...sorta). Confirmed trackpad and right click function exactly 100% just like Remote RDP (purchase enterprise of that app).

Now working on getting remote apps to work over RDP with this app. Hoping to get SAP working on Transformer. This will be smooth if it works.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] ldrn:
I tried the VNC version out after Dahweiteh's recommendation, and it works great. Only flaw I found with it is the page up and page down don't work... but home and end do. (Strange, with how it is implimented, isn't it?)

Search also doesn't do anything, but the only time we can hit it is with the keyboard dock. I'd have loved to also remap it to Alt, or the missing Super key. This is still the best remote app I've tried with the transformer -- right clicking is huge!

Oh, yeah -- and middle clicking does not work, but is detected; it runs a menu popup when you chord. :)

*edit* Found out that the volume keys send Pageup and Pagedown, even if the real pageup and pagedown don't work. Needless to say, no multi-finger scrolling -- it doesn't crash like in Splashtop, but it just reverses the mouse and drags up.

*edit 2* I just got a reply back from the App author, too, saying he was going to add page up and down, middle click on menu, and the ability to configure search... wow, quick!
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] newtybar:
can someone please educate me on how this is different from Splashtop?
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] ldrn:
Both RDP and VNC....

Are slower. You won't watch videos with this like you can with Splashtop.

Are installed by default and you don't need to run a special program, though you need to enable it. (RDP on Windows, VNC on OSX and Linux.)

Is Linux compatible -- probably doesn't matter to you. ;)

Are easier to set up through a firewall (just one port.)

This client is different because...

It supports more things than the Splashtop client. Right clicking the mouse sends a right click. Using the touchpad to move the mouse moves the mouse on the server as well, not requiring a click like with Splashtop. Scrolling does not work but does not crash either.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dan-htc-touch:
just wondering if it would be possible to make this badboy work plugged into the transformer :) I'm too much of a noob to even try to make it work myself

http://www.novatelwireless.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=82&Itemid=170

that link has all the linux installers, as well as source it looks like
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Your link is just a page talking about setting up devices in Linux.

However, your subjects mentions a MiFi - since that sets up a wireless hotspot, it will work without any need for the Linux drivers etc referenced on your link.

You should probably be able to use the dock to keep it charged too if necessary, though you'll still be connected to the device via WiFi.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ondoy1943:
Think of it in the same vein as a wireless router, and you're good to go.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dan-htc-touch:
nah, it's got 4 hours battery life, and turns off the wifi when plugged in :-( super lame
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
Does it still turn the WiFi off when plugged into the TF dock? I'd have thought it would just see the TF as a "charger" and thus leave the WiFi on.

Regards,

Dave
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dan-htc-touch:
nah, it senses something making a data connection, even though there are no drivers and shuts her down. no worries though, I just finished cutting the usb cable it came with and getting rid of the data wires, so now it charges while connected, and keeps the wifi alive. this will do for now, although having two wifi modules and a 3g module all running for data is not going to be happiness for my battery :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] foxmeister:
I have a Huawei MiFi from 3 in the UK. When I originally bought it, it would turn off the wifi when plugged in to a laptop, but there was a subsequent firmware update that "fixed" this issue, so there may well be a firmware update for your Novatel device.

Moot point now though if you cut your cable! :)

Regards,

Dave
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sniperkill:
I just rooted using unREVOked, and installed Amon-ra recovery, and when I reboot, the HTC Evo screen appears, but then a black screen appears with a bunch of different colored lines appears going from side to side. Then the 4g screen pops up, and it boots after that. My question is, is the black screen that appears with the colored lines normal?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gator15nation:
Yes.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sniperkill:
Okay cool. I thought I did something wrong, lol.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jadden:
yes i get them also dont worry ;) unrevoked posted about the issue it will be fixed in the next release
[Thunderbolt General] Pzyborg:
Can someone tell me where the nandroid backup files are stored? I need to delete some old unneeded backups. Nevermind found it in a search.
[Thunderbolt General] EisBlade:
Unsure, but try

/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup

via Thunderbolt, BAMF 2.0-5 using Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] dabackwoodboy:
Just got a notification for an over the air update any one know what it is.
[HTC EVO 3D] sfld:
other then the original?
[HTC EVO 3D] YoungSinema:
I read in one of the other several threads that mention it that it had something to do with the calendar.
[HTC EVO 3D] dabackwoodboy:
Wait what original
[HTC EVO 3D] regulator207:
calendar fix and new hboot. just hit cancel and wait til the devs figure things out.
[HTC EVO 3D] dabackwoodboy:
O if this was already posted i apologies
[HTC EVO 3D] mattvalenz:
Calendar fix for force close when editing an event

I'm a Launch Product Ambassador with Sprint supporting the EVO 3D. Please let me know if you have questions about the update. We are actively monitoring XDA Dev and want to be sure we capture and address all issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] dabackwoodboy:
Wow that's what I'm talking about sprint can you tell me everything that is included in the update
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
Sprint customer service--in the past 6 years anyway--has never let me down and never fails to impress me.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattvalenz:
The only listed item is for calendar entries that were force closing when they were being edited. Beyond that we have no information that anything else was included. The issue seems to have been enough to warrant a maintenance release apparently.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
If you are who you say you are, any reason why this isn't unlocked? I mean, for real. Think about it... The devs on xda pretty much decide shoot to which phones are purchased due to the customability and let me just say, after 100's of hours of deving on the EVO, I will not be happy if the 3d isn't rooted sooner than later..

Kick it in gear and get us the unlock update
[HTC EVO 3D] captblaze:
top issue is getting the bootloader unlocked...

deliver that and you will be somebody

^^
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
What information do you have on the (what I presume would be an) OTA that will address the crypto-signed bootloader that HTC promised to "unlock" for us?

...and if not an OTA form will it be an RUU? If not that, then what? This is a MAJOR ISSUE to all of us here...if it is not addressed to our satisfaction I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that +95% of us WILL return our phones in 30 days.

In summation, how will this issue be address by HTC and/or Sprint?
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
Does it say anything about removing the dialer app from the lockscreen after update?
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I'd imagine the fact that hundreds of thousands of phones were already manufactured and packaged played into this...not to mention the corporate rigamarole involved in software development and then the politics involved in every department, subsidiary, manager and then the same at Sprint having to play their game...
[HTC EVO 3D] Razgriz:
My troll radar is screwy on this...
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
No need to monitor xda if the phone can't be rooted.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
And a simple ota would solve all that. I'm sticking with my original thoughts. Seriously, how many people follow myn or virus and decide to get phone they use because of what team synergy is working on? Trust me, 2 million hits on rl5 alone for myn. Tmartin and myself watched 150k hits in a couple days when we ported the first sense 3 to the EVO.... Before kingdom... Trust me...non devs get like phones of great devs and a simple ota to unlock it is an easy fix... Not to mention keep strong loyalty for future evos... And better yet, sell a lot more once it hits xda that its rootable.

Just a thought
[HTC EVO 3D] Rippley05:
You're a Sprint what? Hahah... Bluescreen? Is that you?
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I don't know....XDA is a rather renowned entity these days, especially in this business. i wouldn't be shocked to hear they devoted one $12 an hour lacky to keep an eye on it...though, I'd also be surprised if that lacky had the meaty information we actually want.

...then why send him here?

But then again, Sprint reps I've talked to are universally less useful than most people on here (excepting, of course, Sprint employees who work here--never met one)...

..but then again, that would further illustrate how out of touch they are...

...but then again that would be a fantastic trolling angle...
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
I agree 110%. I know a simple OTA would solve it all...I also paid very careful attention to the every single developer that signed on...you are dead right.

While a simple OTA might actually take a month to make, get approved, QA test, etc etc etc....even though someone here with the key could have it pumped out in 45 minutes...if that...

...I'm surprised there hasn't been a "leak" yet, honestly.
[HTC EVO 3D] Leoisright:
Yup. I will be suprised if this isn't rooted in a week.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
I wonder how long till their facebook page get's raped again.
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
it was happening all day long, probably still is
[HTC EVO 3D] unCoRrUpTeD:
It's already started.

Without XDA, HTC would probably not put out some of the updates that they have. It's a give, give relationship. They give us an unlocked bootloader, we give them the devs to fix their problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
To be fair, I won't start until official launch day. Then I'll be back at it, I expect all of my bros from before to be at the helm with me again. Get ready to assume your shifts. I've now got a handful of devices for multiple simultaneous attack vector efficiency.
[HTC EVO 3D] fmedina2:
Let's just try to be professional about it. They are willing to work with us. Last thing I want is to see their facebook get flooded by people cursing them out or insulting the company. The more professional and organized we are, the more likely they would want to help us, rather than help a bunch of punks who insult them then demand stuff from them on facebook.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
100% Agree

Keep it adult, mature, professional. Address your concerns and clearly outline an expected (and reasonable) form of redress. Name calling and ****-talking get us nowhere. Threats to return and buy a competing brand are acceptable--it's our only option.

Make sure to also pass on this standard of decorum... we don't want to look like a bunch of idiotic kids making idiotic demands. We are their customers, they want us...if we don't come across as unreasonable idiots we will likely be dealt with in a reasonable way. Strength in numbers helps but that is underlined by our level of integrity....if they ignore name-calling kids who would blame them? If they ignore a mature crowd with a reasonable argument then THEY look like they are being unreasonable....and they know this.

Pass this message on if need be.
[HTC EVO 3D] motoelliot:
Ill have the midnight shift! But lets give them a chance first. Its not even OFFICIALLY launched yet. Simmer down people...

Sent from A.W.E.S.O.M-O
[HTC EVO 3D] Semantics:
You do realize that the EVO 4G sold like 4 million units, if 95% of all xda EVO owners got rid of their EVO for the same reason it would not make a damn bit of difference. We are a very very small part of the EVO user base, you are making it out as if we are the majority.
[HTC EVO 3D] daneurysm:
We heard this argument last time. All of the many many many articles I read in the weeks following the rampage on their Facebook, Youtube, HTC forums, Twitter, etc all mentioned how they had a very dedicated, very vocal minority following.

We attacked their front-facing sites. This is their entire existence on the internet. People don't really go to corp websites anymore so much as interact via social media. If you want to download a manual or a driver you go to the website, otherwise you check their Facebook, twitter...check out their devices on youtube, ask specific questions on their facebook, twitter or dedicated forums.....and we got a statement from the CEO himself.

...and we'll do it again. They can go right ahead and focus on the much less vocal and much less dedicated and much larger much more profitable majaority--and we'll move our dedicated and support to another brand. In that they lose all of the free development (most of which released methodically and in full in true OSS spirit) and viciously dedicated fanbase....and that's to say nothing of the word-of-mouth factor. Who, among your friends and family, is the go-to-guy for tech advice? You? You don't say...so are we. Or opinion ripples over 5-50 people a piece.

So if they neglect us they will pay the price. Perhaps they can afford it, but that is their decision to make.