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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Raistlin1:
I think that page does not really state the 10.1 has gorilla glass, the page is for the the Galaxy SII and I am not sure the products below it mean they have the glass.

I could be completely wrong, just a thought I had. Plus with how flexible the original glass was is why I thought that.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pkoper:
Just read about someone on a B9 who got rings.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Camazza:
Take a look at this

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/...laxy-tab-101-features-corning®-gorilla®-glass
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Tivo7:
Looks like gorilla glass to me. :P
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] btmec:
After getting my new one from the service center it feels more stiff and the screen looks better. I can not flex the tablet and it takes a lot of force for me to press hard enough for form newton's rings. Seems like a big improvement.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Raistlin1:
That is def good evidence that it has it, thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mark.m.moran:
Bought mine in Ireland last Friday and by Sunday morning I had the Newton rings!! Really really annoyed about this. Called the shop this morning and am demanding a replacement unit, in all fairness I have only had it two days!!

I have seen this on a display model in PC World as well and was shocked that such an expensive device could have a flaw like this. PC World are mad to have it on display for all to see!

My serial number is R61B7XXXXX so it looks like a July manufactured model! I'll be looking to get a B8 or B9 if possible in exchange! When I get a chance I'll go to PC World and check the model number of that one they have on display!

Cheers,

M
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Just an update: got the rings about a month after I bought the unit. They covered about 20% of the screen. Now, about a month later, they've completely disappeared. Not sure what happened, but I'm happy about it!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mark.m.moran:
And in the meantime were you using it much?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tbcpn:
(Re)Confirmed--"Bubbles under screen" are an acknowledged VZW defective device issue

I'm on my second VZW LTE 10.1 Tab--both suffering from the NR (got my first unit mid-August). I called VZW support this a.m. now that the rings have grown to about four inches wide, told them that I was on my second LTE Tab, and that I understood that the NR were in their system as "bubbles under the screen" and that the units were being replaced at VZW corporate stores for brand new units.

She asked where the store closest to me was located, and then she said she'd call and arrange for them to hold one for me. After being on hold for about five minutes, the rep returned to say that the store didn't have any in stock, but that she'd have a brand new unit overnited to me for delivery tomorrow. She confirmed that this is in Verizon's system as a known issue and is a defective device issue (I don't recall the exact wording she used).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Edimonk:
I have sent mine in twice, the first time they replaced the screen but when I took a look the spot was still there. So I had to call them and send it back in, but this time to a different place. In total I had the tab for 2 months of use, and 1 month for repair (half way through the wait I got my Bionic, so I wasn't as annoyed). So far after a week everything has been fine.

For reference, my serial number is R61B6.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Camazza:
I was about to ask the same thing. It may take a while to realize they are there. My first one had the problem since day 1, and I used it a lot that first day. My second one has no problems at all, even in extreme conditions (I put it in my car with the heater on MAX, inside a bag, while running RealPi benchmark). Plus I'm using it constantly, so it gets very warm. Still, no rings unless I press hard on the screen (and like I said, even the iPad does that if you press hard enough :-) )
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gtab55:
intelisol

In late august, my tab (32 gray) got nr's. I called samsung about it and they told me the lcd displays were installed incorectly. So they emailed me a shippimg label to get it repaired at intelisol of texas. I shipped it the next day and even tracked it while being repaired. When it came back, i notcied they put an entirely new screen on. I gently pushed thetab to see if they would show up and they werent there. Its been a month since i got it back and it works great. My sn is R63B6. The lady told me the new ones with the samsung logo and all of the smaller ones will have no nrs.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Every day, at least an hour a day.

But here's another update: the rings are back. Weird, right? Meh, they really don't bother me; you can't see them when it's turned on, so I really don't get why everyone freaks out about them...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] patomas:
Cold weather

Mine go and come back with the temperature. When it's a bit colder they go away.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Canadoc:
The heat is bringing the panel closer to te exterior glass causing the interface. That would explain why it goes away after no use for a while
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dulaney22:
Mine will appear when perpendicular to the ground. I can then lay it flat and the spot will disappear.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ghylton:
i had this same issue with my first tab and I returned it and got a new one where it does not seem to be a problem. Also its not moisture its the liquid crystals in the lcd
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dulaney22:
It seems to come and go with the new one. The first had it all the time.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jackie_jagger:
does the oil slick thing affect anything? screen sensitivity? or anything - what if one decides to keep it and not return?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bpiorczyn:
The slick doesn't seem to affect anything performance wise and it's pretty hard to notice when the screen is actually turned on. I ordered 3 32gb Grey ones from Amazon and 2/3 have had the splotch on the screen. It is definitely heat related, I returned one via Amazon and am debating returning the other not sure if this is an issue with all the tabs.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cosimoss:
Not got it. It does look like something introduced in the manufacturing process. Maybe posting serial numbers of affected Tabs might show that a batch has a problem.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zaphyr:
I think this is a better idea than posting "I have a grey one" :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SeaborneClink:
I bought a 16gb grey one from Best Buy like two days after launch. I lucked out with getting one with an unlocked bootloader, but noticed yesterday that there was the oil sheen in the center of the screen and it was about 3 inches long. Returned it last night, got home and went to apply my Zagg Invisishield and noticed that there was dust under the screen on the replacement one. I will be returning this one to Best Buy today, I hope the same girl isn't working the exchange counter because I doubt they'll be too happy to see me again.

Also the replacement tab I got did NOT have an unlocked bootloader. What gives Samsung?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dulaney22:
Having watched mine closely for a couple days, it all appears to be related to ambient heat. If I sit outside during the day it will appear, but not in the house. I don't know if it's worth swapping again . . . everything else is perfect.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] juanisidrobt:
Moisture under Screen

Mine also has the same problem, anyone has found a solution that isn't returning it back?. I ordered it by Amazon and I live in Dominican Republic, i guess i'll have to pay extra money for returning it back. I'm so sad, this tablet is amazing i love every aspect of it, but this hardware issue is a big fail by Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Zoide_:
Same problem here. I live in Costa Rica but I bought my GT 10.1 (16GB metallic gray) from Amazon while on a trip to the US. It would be quite a hassle to return it...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] juanisidrobt:
Moisture under Screen

I contacted a Samsung US representative via chat, and he told me that i had to contact a representative here in DR. I did it, and the girl told me that they didn't had that model here, and because i bought it via internet (outside my country) it was out of warranty:mad:

Then she gave me some numbers of Samsung Authorized Service centers here in DR, but I know that they will be useless because the TAB 10.1 isn't even selling here.

I'm contacting AMAZON, let's see what they tell me.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] joocrazy:
I had the same issue, but with more than half of my screen. This happened right after I applied carbon fiber tape with a blow dryer. The problem went away after 30 minutes of non use with the tab turned off. The moisture leaked out and dried on top of the screen, I had to use a cloth to clean the exterior of the glass. Never had this problem happen again. Seems to me that this isn’t that big of a deal and it is caused by heat from first use. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1139991
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] chastbi:
I had a fairly large (3"x4") oily area in the center of the screen which would come and go. I usually notice it on or just after getting off airplanes. I stuck the device in the fridge for 15min and it cleared up and about a 1/2" area of water appeared on the surface of the screen which I cleaned off. No problems since.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Zoide_:
Has anyone else tried the fridge "fix"? I'm a bit apprehensive...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Dc5e:
I just got the SGT10.1 today and I had a pretty big splotch along the center of my screen. It's only noticeable when the screen is really dark and there's enough ambient light to see a reflection.

I just put my SGT in the fridge about 10 minutes ago and the splotch has drastically shrunken. Not sure if it will come back, but hopefully it won't. Either way, it does not really affect me much while in use.

Edit: After leaving it in the fridge for about 15 minutes, the splotch went away. If I pressed on the center on the screen, you could see it comes back. After the tablet started warming up, it started coming back again. I'm assuming that there should be a small pocket of space between the glass and whatever is underneath, and by making the tablet cold, the material is shrinking just enough to stop the moisture in that gap from showing. I'm going to put my tablet in a bag of rice and cool it overnight to see what happens. Just maybe the dry air and rice will be enough to absorb the small amount of moisture under the glass.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jthanki:
Did the bag of rice fix it? Today was a hot day in so cal, and today the splotch that usually goes away after a few seconds, has not. Putting it in the fridge make it go away, but its back. Very small in the middle, about 1cm diameter

Interestingly, my xoom had the same thing, but it didn't stick around. After seeing this happen on this tab, assumed it was just due to the type of screen both companies used, but it appears it may be a more serious problem.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
It must be defective. There are other 10.1 tablets without that issue.

Just turn it in as long as you can.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Dc5e:
The rice didn't do anything. I suspect that the moisture (or possibly some oily substance) is just trapped under the glass which should be glued tight.

I wonder if heating it up would work... though I don't really want to be the first one to try it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] skerk:
Could you please specify what you mean with the "Samsung logo", I'm having the nrs on mine, and I'm going to switch it at the store, but I'd like to be sure about getting one without the risks of rings. Again....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RavenY2K3:
I think there maybe some truth in that, i had a small amount the appeared about 2 weeks ago. Last week I went on holiday to the Canary Islands and they got somewhat worse, so while i was there I filed an RMA with samsung.

I got back to the UK in the early hours of Monday morning, this morning I took it off charge, opened the case to use it and the damn things have dissappeared!

Don't know what to do about sending it back now???
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rlarsen462:
Well mine got so bad as to be irreversible and I sent it to Samsung US. Got it back in less than 2 weeks with a new screen, but unfortunately I won't be able to see it for 6 weeks (I am on the road for business). Talking on the phone with customer service they weren't able to say whether there is an updated parts set to prevent the issue from reoccurring. I fully expect to get the Newton Rings again. :(

I am guessing it's just a flawed design and Samsung doesn't care at this point as they are undoubtedly focused on releasing then next version ASAP.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gtab55:
h

She said they were going to ship out the tabs, of which i presume would be all, with a samsung logo on the bottom of the screen where the charge port is.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tbcpn:
A perhaps interesting follow up to my post above. Today I received via FedEx, as promised, a box. However, this was the VZW return box for my present LTE Tab. I called VZW, thinking that they're gonna try and give me a reconditioned device. Told the helpful person what happened yesterday...brand new replacement, etc., etc.,...and she put me on hold for about 10 minutes, coming back every few minutes to apologize for the delay. Finally she said that the problem was that she couldn't locate the tracking number for the new Tab, and after checking further, discovered that Verizon is "totally out of stock system wide" on the LTE Tab and that they will in fact be shipping a brand new replacement as soon as stock is replenished.

I'm hopeful that this means that Verizon told Sammy to take back the defective units, and send a batch when they've fixed the NR issues. We'll see.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] taha_e:
finally newton rings on my screen become larger :( and I decided to take it to service center (Indonesia-Jakarta) I gave it to them and they told me they will change the screen for me and I can go bak to pick it up in one hour :o

I thought they are making a joke but surprisingly after one hour I took my tablet with a new display in only one hour
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dmmcd:
Same issue here. I took my GT10.1 LTE to the Verizon store, they said they needed to order a replacement online and I would have it in 1 to 2 business days and ship back my old one when I get the new one. I got the FedEx return box in 2 days, but no tab. I called and they said they were out of stock. I called again a week later, still out of stock. I called back today (3+ weeks later...) and still out of stock with no projected date of getting any new ones. Kind of frustrating.

But on a good note, I spent last week in Denver area (6000 to 7000 ft. elevation, high 60s F temps) and the screen cleared up! We'll see how long it takes for the problem to come back, as I just got home on Saturday. So far it is still clear...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] venkman:
I've had similar experiences with verizon. On my second tab. It took ~4 attempts to get the first one replaced. They sent me an empty box twice (2 attempts), then decided to let my local store handle it and sent them an empty box (3rd attempt), finally the local store contacted me and said to just come in and get a new one that they had in stock. They also upgraded me from a 16gb to 32gb for my trouble.

3 weeks later (nowish) the second tab has now developed the same problem. I contacted via email both samsung and verizon. samsung sent me back a ridiculously infuriating canned response saying among other things that "In Samsung's history of wireless phones, we have never had a recall on any of our devices and expect that the phone that you purchase would be in working order. " They didn't even spend the effort to make sure the canned response referred to a "tablet" or "device" instead of a "phone".

Verizon sent me a much better response, saying it was known problem and that a new device was on it's way to me already. I of course expect this to be not a new tablet but a beautiful empty box to add to my collection, but at least they seem sympathetic to the issue. Seems like a win for a verizon customer support and a ridiculous failure on samsung's part.

Edit: as predicted, just received my empty box from verizon. Contacting them to try to do in store pickup of the new device.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tbcpn:
My understanding, both from posts in this thread and directly from VZW is that the replacement units will be brand new units. Indeed, I was told (which confirmed what I read in this thread) that the VZW brick and mortar stores were replacing the Tabs with NRs with NIB units on site--this is in VZW's system as a "defective device" issue. The replacement I'm waiting on I've been assured is a new unit. If it's not, back it goes.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kitts:
Did you guys sent the charger and headphones along with the tab to the service center?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jbakers:
You can download an app and take screenshots with that to take pictures of the moisture.

;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rcy1:
I have a B6 (32GB)and a friend has a B8 (16GB). Mine does not have the SAMSUNG logo at the bottom of the screen above the charge port. Hers does. So far neither of them have Newton's rings.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] binaryhat:
I have newton's rings on my GTAB10.1 wifi 16GB. It's 4" X 0.5". I only see it when the screen is off/sleep. When it's on I don't see any color distortions etc...

Check out the pic

What should I do. I've had it for almost a week.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] indygreg:
my white 32GB B9 is still perfect after 2.5 weeks. I use it a ton too.

This is just an FYI.

Also, mine does not say samsung anywhere on the front of the tablet. I have not seen a 10.1 that does. The 8.9 does.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rlarsen462:
Someone in the TF2/Kal-el thread mentioned they'd gotten a recent 3G model in the UK that definitely had a different screen when compared to a wi-fi model he had on hand. Can anyone confirm whether they've had a replacement screen that was noticeably different from the newton-ringed one they sent it?

I haven't had a chance to look at the one I got back from Samsung yet due to travel, but I am not holding out a lot of hope that it will not develop the rings again quickly. :/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gtab55:
Screen difference

Yes, my screen (B6 32gb grey) came back (early september) with an entirely different screen. With it off, you could see there was a sort of leather texture to it. Not physically on it, but underneath. I do remember that when I first got the tab, the screen was 100% clear and no texture appeal. Now, even a Besy Buy rep said it looks different.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bijixda:
just got my screen replaced :)

it looks thicker and when i press hardly, no more moist

thanks to taha_e for pointing it out, i ask them to repair the screen instead of full replacement. only 1 hour to wait
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] godpancho:
My gray wifi tab also has the same problem. Called samsung and they said that about 8% of there products come out with defects. They told me to send it to there repair center in texas and that they willl fix it for freee. if anyone has this problem with moisture under the screeen just calll samsung they will send you a free ups shiping lable to send your tab to texas.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] binaryhat:
I can confirm this. Sent my tab to texas, no charge. Have to wait 7-14 days for it according to samsung.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rlarsen462:
Finally received the tab today (due to my travel schedule, not Samsung's delays, they returned it within a week), definitely a different screen. It has the texture some of you are describing. I've barely got to play with it (I am at work), but I am cautiously optimistic that the problem is now solved. Otherwise, why else would there be a different screen part now?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pholklore:
Those with weird problems with sync and blue pixels, anything like this?

www youtube com/watch?v=WauTDdzxGq0
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pkoper:
Same with me. My replacement tab has this texture.

Somewhere else someone however said his B6 Tab has this texture too. Either way... no rings since replacement
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cmarshack:
I had my 32gb Grey Tab for 90 days and had the oil slick since day 1.

Just returned it to Costco and ordered a replacment...we will see if it is plagued with the dame issue.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rlarsen462:
Well, so much for the "textured" screen being better theory. Had the thing back a ****ing day and it's already showing the rings. It seems to be less visible than before possible due to the texture, but they're definitely there. The official Samsung book cover case seems to make it worse for some reason, but even without the case the lightest pressure in the middle of the screen, or the back of the case makes the rings appear (like simply holding the device with your fingers in the back center will cause rings). They seem to go away rather quickly but I'm sure it's only going to be a week or two before they are a permanent fixture like before.

What a piece of ****.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gtab55:
Tabs

I asked a samsung rep at a convention (not tablet related, but mobile) about the screen issues. He said, though made clear that he wasn't a repair specialist, they are shipping out ones with the new screen already installed. I told him mine had b6 and he said all of the b6 tabs are susceptible to the nr's.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slamorte:
I'm on my fourth replacement - had it for about a month. The rings are visible when pressing down on the screen and have appeared a few times with heat and heavy use. However, none have been permanent yet. My other three had permanent rings after three days.

I'm convinced that my previous use of the bookcase cover combined with a screen protector have been the cause of the permanent rings. I've been carrying this one around in the same bag to and from work, but either in the Samsung leather pouch or my recently purchased Acase folio (the only things I've found that fit the Verizon model).

You never know though - I'm in agreement with the rest of you... This thing shouldn't cost so much money and have these problems!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Eddog4DROID:
For what its worth, I had my Moisture issue replaced in Texas support center on my 16 GM Wifi purchased from Stables in July. It has been almost two months since they repaired it and all seems to be good.

I am using a Casecrown cover on it--before and after the problem. Pre-Moisture, I had a Zagg screen protector on. I am hesitant to pt it back on at the moment. Not sure if that contributed or what.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] s.illes79:
is there any way to tell whether a model is affected by this problem or not? let's say based on the serial number. or maybe based on the physics look?

I'd like to get one, but not for the affected series .
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] s.illes79:
screw samsung I think I wait for asus transformer prime: http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-prime/features
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rcy1:
If the word Samsung is on the screen at the bottom where the charge port is, you have a newer screen that supposedly doesn't get the rings.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] binaryhat:
Interesting. I had to send mine in and it did not have the word Samsung on the bottom. I'll report back on when Samsung returns my tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] aribalch:
"Moisture

I have the word Samsung right above the charge port, and I still have rings.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] keithmoore:
Mine has 'Samsung' at the bottom of the screen, and I have the 'rings' as well. Had it about 2 months so will be sending it for repair.