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[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
Since I posted here is what else has happened:

- Was using the phone and launched Market...froze up, phone shut off wouldn't power back on. Had to pull the battery

- Phone may start fast from a warm boot but 99% of the time I never turn my phone off on purpose so the times I start it up is from a cold boot - in those cases it definitely takes FOREVER to start up compared to the G2X. Try this - the battery out of your Sensation and your G2X (assuming you have both). Now put the batteries back in and turn them on the same time. Done.

- Used Navigation and things were fine then noticed the GPS icon kept flashing and couldn't turn if off so it drained my battery and I had to do a restart (WHICH ALSO takes forever btw!!)

- LauncherPro is helping significantly, the scrolling is smooth and overall it's nice. Higher screen res is messing up some widgets

- Wifi speed is back to normal now for some reason so that's at least a good thing. No issues with data to report yet either thankfully

- My favorite thing about this phone is honestly and sadly the lock screen. Having quick access to apps from there is very nice but that's just software and sure not specific to HTC.

- HTC keyboard is garbage so I replaced with Keyboard from Gingerbread in Market.

So basically, in order for me to use this phone I've removed most of what HTC has on by default. I'm all for tweaking but this further illustrates the crap that skins do to phones. This thing running stock Gingerbread (or even Froyo) would have been quite wonderful.

I'm going to keep tweaking and keep it around for a few more days before I decide but I definitely am still missing the G2X. So far this thing doesn't do anything particularly better for me than the G2X. IMHO.

F THIS - I've decided to uninstall LP and go back to Stock Sense launcher. If I end up with LP, then I might as well use G2X. I'm going to live with this phone with stock Sense launcher so I get the real experience.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
So why are you posting in the G2X forum and especially in this thread??
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
Umm if you paid attention to what I wrote...you'd see I said I have BOTH the G2X and the Sensation. Keep up...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
You've already decided you don't like it so do yourself a favor and return it. You've already had so many problems...funny the problems you named in here I've seen noone else have..but hey if you say you're having the problems then you're having the problems lol....:rolleyes: I'd still go with what the other people said, if you're really having that much trouble then your phone is definitely defective because the Sensation doesn't most of the issues you named. By the way, the data latency has a fix for it. By the way, just for good measure...I've had the phone since the 8th and have yet to experience a freeze or a crash, and the vast majority of others have had the same experience. Same can't be said for my G2X. But to be honest, the things you say in your post makes me really question the validity of it....just saying...objectivity is non-existent..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
Just because I have had tons of problems with the Sensation you question my objectivity but people who post the same crap about the G2X is ok because you've had problems. Wow.

Any case, my Wifi on Sensation just slowed down again since I checked 5 mins ago...looks like I'm not the only one. Fix this for me and I'll avoid throwing this thing back in the box.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1125623&highlight=wifi+slow
[T-Mobile LG G2x] iunlock:
It is faster. The phone overall is a much better device. The interface is by far way better than the bone stock G2X.

The only complaint I have is that the Sensation can be a little laggy. It's probably due to the bloatware from HTC...can't wait to flash this sucker ..

Other than that it's a beautiful device. Always have loved the HTC hardware quality.

Bottom line, the phones fun, it looks sexy, the screen stomps the G2X and it's a breath of fresh air.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
Like I've already stated...and someone else in this thread have stated...there is a fix in the forums for data latency issues. Not sure why you keep choosing to ignore it. By the way, I'm not trying to talk you into throwing it in the box lol. Quite frankly I think you should. According to your post you've got your mind already made up, so what's the dog and pony show for? And no I don't question your objectivity because you "had problems", I question it because some of the statements you have made are flat out false. Your post really seems like a person who is really dramatizing things to try to prove a point. Like what was said already by another poster...either your device is defective or you're "being creative" :D

Side Note: What do you think of the HTC Locations navigation app? Does it lock quickly for you?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
WTF? The WiFi issue has nothing to do with data latency. Why don't you move along to another thread and stop trolling already. If you don't agree with me, that's fine. I'm providing a perspective other than yours - seems to have put your panties in a bunch.

Yeah the HTC Locations app locks so fast it's unreal - oh wait there isn't one. Please please go find some other place to troll already.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
Yeah the wifi latency issue is addressed with that fix....wifi does transmit data ya know...and kudos on answering my question correctly..you win a prize. Anyways, learn the difference between trolling and me pointing out problems in what you're stating. If you were stating things that were true that'd be one thing, but you've been stating things that have been way off target. So yeah I still stand by what was stated previously..either your device is defective or you're being creative. At this point in the ball game, no one who has actually spent time using a Sensation will say the G2X is more stable than the Sensation because it just isn't. There's no debating that at all. And until the G2X can be a stable device and at least have decent battery life, it can't be considered the best. See unlike you, I actually have both phones and happen to like both phones. After having the Sensation for 11 days now, I have had it long enough to know I like it better than the G2X, mainly due to how much more stable it is than the G2X..that and Sense 3.0 is pretty good. So unlike you I don't have an ax to grind against either phone. The thing is, at least if you're going to have an agenda, give out accurate information that supports that agenda.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
You didn't see my picture.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jonathan3579:
I own both phones. I can say that the Sensation cold boot time (meaning completely powered off) is too close to compare. OP, you really should consider exchanging the phone because it is no slouch.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
He does sound upset cause you dont agree with him....lol

Go back to the sensation forums people who like it better.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
You have no idea what you're talking about. I don't need to be upset because I can use either phone at any time (that's the beauty of having both). The thing is I believe in disseminating accurate information. What the OP is saying is totally inaccurate (as stated now by several people who have chimed in on this thread). I couldn't careless if he agrees with me or not. I'm not here to convince anyone. But what I don't like is that the OP is purposely giving misinformation to people. Some people like to read about things so that they can make a decision which direction they want to go, so it isn't very helpful to those people if they are being given inaccurate information to go on. Let people decide what they want based on the facts, not based on some skewed fallacies created by the OP. Got it? Good.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
The point is I am having a different experience than you. That's OK. Lets move on please.

I will say the browser is faster on Sensation than G2X for me which is nice. Apps seem to run about the same on both phones. Its also unfair to compare because one is running GB and one Froyo. When G2X gets GB then will be interesting. I haven't decided whether to return the Sensation yet or just keep it along with my G2X. Decisions decisions.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
+1 for use of the word fallacies ;) And from someone who doesn't have a dog in the hunt, the first post did seem arbitrarily one-sided. Even jrwingate who is as tough an audience as there is found positive qualities in the Sensation.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pinhead:
This thread seems more like it is about a few people *supporting whichever phone they bought. I don't believe some of you who are claiming to have both phones...though a few do seem like they might...since much of the various experiences being claimed seem wildly unlikely.

No one here is responsible for making any of these devices so why get so defensive about one device or another?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Yes, lets wait till we get gingerbread.. Next year.. :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
Judging from the leaked gingerbread rom I think we'll at least be able to look forward to better battery life. As for stability..that remains to be seen. Hopefully the update will give us a more stable device. This phone has a lot of potential, but it does no good if it isn't reliable. Hopefully they don't pull a Samsung and have everyone waiting forever for the update.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Yea lets hope. That leak was quite a bit ago, they have had a good amount of time to fix imo slight lil bugs, browser being first issue.

Will see lets hope its soon, thats all this phones missing.. I dont believe the bleed is a issue so once ironed out were golden..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mysterioustko:
I think the whole thing with the screen bleed was way overblown. Now I will say that with gingerbread, depending on the severity of your bleed it can make your status bar at the top look like a gradient. That can be annoying. My main issues with the G2X as it stands right now are 1) Instability/Unreliable - I cannot use my phone as an alarm because sometimes it freezes over night and requires a battery pull (I overslept twice because of that) 2) Battery Life - While I don't think the battery life is as horrible as some people will make it out to be, it definitely has room for improvement. I do think a large part of the battery life (or lack thereof) has to do with Froyo, as Gingerbread has better power management. 3) Screen bleed (when it's a severe case). I've only had one unit that had bad bleeding, the others had an acceptable amount of bleed.

Other minor but annoying issues are: A2DP not automatically connecting, browser crashing at random, and wifi calling not functioning over bluetooth.

The good thing is all these issues sans screen bleeding are software issues adn can be corrected with an update. So time will tell if they are corrected. In the meantime, I'm using my Sensation as my daily driver (since it doesn't have these issues) and my G2X as my toy lol (I experiment on it with various kernels and roms just for kicks).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] eagle1967:
im just waiting for the flux capacitor update so i can go to early next year and pick up a quad core phone so i can laugh at you poor people still on dual core phones.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Lol...After using the Sensation for more than a day it grew on me.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I have no problem proving I own both. Your right though. Some people probably don't but I do know there's a couple guys in this thread that actually do.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
To the OP.... Sounds like your Sensation is defective just like 3 of my G2X's. I am still trying to figure out why you haven't returned it yet. If I bought a device that was having that many problems, especially data problems. I would have exchanged it for another.

Like I said before. I have had mine for 4 days now and I don't have the problems you seem to have. I also did a boot test by pulling the batteries and every sing time, the Sensation booted up a splint second faster which can also be seen on You Tube under Phondogs profile. Not that how fast a device boots even matters to me and quite frankly, I don't know why anyone would care about boot times. How many times are you booting your phone per day and does a couple of seconds really matter. Fact of the matter is that the G2X should be booting a couple seconds faster than the Sensation since it doesn't have to load a custom skin.

As other people have stated. You sound extremely biased and it seems as if you had your mind made up before you even created this post. In the end, if your data is messed up and your phone is freezing than do yourself a favor and exchange it for another one.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jonathan3579:
Here's my proof of owning both. In all honesty, I have mostly been using the G2x although the phone has recently decided that rebooting on phone calls ala Nexus S is a cool thing to do. Guess it's time to give the Sensation a real test out of the box.

And yes, that's a spare battery for the G2x. ;) I need it on the days I'm not running EDGE.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
Sort of.

2.3.4, yes. Anything below, no. There's a bug in in the suspend process in pre-2.3.4 releases that puts the phone in to an infinite loop when it's supposed to be at idle. It's causing havoc on the SGS2. Samsung's already moved the SGS1, Wave, and Ace to 2.3.4 and the SGS2's supposed to be updated before the end of the month.

Here's the 116 page long thread on in it which includes tweets from Google.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1070324
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
This is a video showing the Sensation's UI performance without the silly animations and 7 home screens worth of widgets. The lag from the videos you see from some of the reviews are due to having all of those widgets updating there own information plus animations that shouldn't be there until Android gets hardware acceleration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcSynH_LG4I
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jonathan3579:
I just turned off the animations and it did make a noticeable difference. I'm even more happy to own both now.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
So basically your solution is to use as little of the phone to get the performance that should be there with all the stuff. I might end up keeping the Sensation as an alternate but G2X launcher/homescreen performance is still better IMHO.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
Back to my G2X for now. Will give Sensation another try during the week.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jonathan3579:
Anyone else having their Sensation go hot? It's getting much more so than my G2x ever has.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
Yes I noticed it got hot in the bottom part on the softkeys and on the backside in that area. Funnily my g2x gets hot on the top part.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jonathan3579:
Okay, so we are having the same issue there. It's intermittent going from warm to straight hot. The G2x only really heats up while charging and actively using the phone whereas the Sensation is doing it regardless of charging or not.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Hoggles:
Funny how devices go from person to person.

I had the exact opposite result. The Sensation for me is much faster than the G2X, in my personal experience. Plus I've noticed the Sensation resizes text on pages way better, the closer you zoom in.

Just personal preference of course....I'm glad I switched...for the BIG reason of the gorgeous 4.3 qhd res display and

no screen bleed

:p

I just knew that in a few months, I would have been bummed that I didn't have this display ;) Plus the video recording is a no brainer for me. Sensation records audio in STEREO....G2X in only MONO. That's a big deal for someone like me who uses this camcorder alot...then plays it back on my HTPC :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I always turn off the animations on any phone I use. I don't like them and don't need eye candy to make me happy. Sense has more animations than any other manufacturer UI and in my opinion HTC shouldn't have implemented all of them until Android got a hardware accelerated UI.

Last time I checked, you don't need to have 3D animations to get the most out of a phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
Where do you turn those off? I only found the animations under Display.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Well there is those and there is also that stupid live weather when you unlock your device every time which is a resource hog. Just delete and re-add the clock and it will give you the option to turn live weather animation off. Those are the only things I turned off.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
Crap. I thought you knew a way to turn the main 3d animations off.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
Are you talking about the animation when swiping and unlocking the device? If so, I don't think there's a way to turn them off but I wish there was. I just want a normal swipe and normal unlock without the home screen rolling in. In my opinion HTC sucks for not giving us the option to change these.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
I've just come to terms that I have to use launcher pro in order to use the sensation. All the options you want.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I haven't ran a Launcher on top of Sense yet but I am wandering a couple things. Do you keep the lock screen and the Widgets? If so, is there anything you lose besides the stupid 3D animations?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mobilehavoc:
You keep lockscreen but you lose htc specific widgets. Worth the trade off for me.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] augustorm:
It seems to me that the comparisons are moot until someone compares two phones that lack any issues. At the moment the proverbial "Apples to Oranges" seems to apply. At best one can only report which phone comes out of the box with the least amount of bugs. I would, however, like to find someone in my area that has a Sensation that is equal in quality to my G2x. I have had my phone for a month now and have experienced no reboots, screen bleed, lock-ups, or anything else remotely similar to other issues reported. My phone is rooted and running stock and I would really like to see how mine would compare to equally solid phones.

Just my 6 cents

Peace
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nraudigy2:
sensation vs sgs2 vs optimus 2x

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608.php
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I did a comparison and if you go back and look at every post I ever made regarding my G2X you will see that I didn't have a bug riddled unit. I never experienced a reboot, freeze, lock up or any other major issue with my G2X. The only problem I had was minor screen bleed. Check out my comparison if you want a honest review of each devices pluses and minuses.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bluemoon737:
Well boot times might be important if you own a G2x (or is that "re-boot" times) :D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Hoggles:
I saw that when it first came out.... BY FAR the most in depth review I think I've ever seen. Good job to the peeps over at GSM....

I didn't see it, but to the OP....you obviously have a seriously defective device and would probably have been a good idea to get a proper Sensation before posting your thoughts on the 2 devices. I had 1 defective G2X, then switched to the Sensation. As I've mentioned before, if both devices are working, it a simple matter of personal taste. Can't really say one is "better" than the other.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bobdude5:
I love sense, so Damn useful.

Why are you trying to like the phone man? You shoulnt have to force yourself to like it when you have a great altnerative.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tq745:
the sensation is not without faults either...yes the g2x has some screen bleed, but many are reporting that the sensation collects dust under the screen. now to me that is unacceptable...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tq745:
looks like the g2x is not the only one "re-booting"...:rolleyes:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1131660
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
I dunno. CM7 pretty much cleared up any issues I had with the battery. No resets or lockups. It just works fast.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I think there are going to be a lot of devices with this problem. Nothing scary until you have reports from the number of people reporting reboot issues with the G2X. Theres a difference between a couple faulty devices and a completely faulty phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] smashpunks:
Exactly, all phones reboot one point or another, or doing something weird, but we the all know g2x does it a lot.. 1 page isn't the same a hundreds...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] alodar1:
And I've had my son's sensation and my G2x side by side also. He reported extremely bad battery life...which he fixed by removing a Live Wallpaper. Now his battery life is well within expected range...yesterday....off the charger at 9am, at 11pm, charge was at 46%, with no charges in between. He works at verizon support and no cell phones are allowed on the floor.

Like it or not, the Sensation is a nice device. Nice enough that I ordered one too. I have 30 days to test the G2x and Sensation, side by side. Then I'll decide. I have had the G2x for 1 week, today. I have had no reboots, seen no bleeding, signal is fine, browsing is good, wifi calling is exceptional. My only questions about the device involve my recent newness in Android and nothing about how the phone runs. With the Sensation I tested, the only issue involved suspected battery life..and that has been resolved. No tweeks were made to sense or anything else for optimization.....Hopefully the device I receive will be similar.

Like most of the 'reasonable' thinkers here, we all recognize it comes down to personal choice. How it feels in your hand, how the things you do most, look and handle. I would say from my several hour test on Fathers day...the 2 devices are fairly equal. But I will put it through a full blown Alodar test starting tomorrow....and see what happens.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] graffixnyc:
Well, figured I would chime in since I also own both devices.

In terms of speed the G2X wins hands down, but to be fair the Sensation has sense. The true comparison will be when they are both running a vanilla rom.

The sensation feels better in the hand, feels like it's built more solid than the g2x. The only issue I have with my sensation is the death grip issue with wifi. I would notice the signal go down when I held it in landscape but last night I got the real effect of it. I was streaming a movie from my computer and viewing it on my sensation using splash top. Everytime I held the sensation and touched the death grip spot my video would stutter.. Tried setting the wifi to max performance and I have the tmo gel case on.

One good thing I can say, is if they release a fix the whole phone doesnt have to be replaced, most likely just the back cover to have better sheilding or what not

Overall I like the sensation better but do miss the speed of my g2x. I think I will have to just switch between the two. You know like a kid in a divorce. hahaha one week I'll use the sensation, the next week I'll use the G2x :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] alodar1:
I know what you're saying....which ever device I held in my hand on Sunday...that was the device I wanted...both feel good, look good, perform good...and, with Sense.....even though the lag was noticeable when compared to the G2x....Sense does what Sense has always done. It eat resources in exchange for a cool interface. But in all honesty....it was not that noticeable. My son never saw it on his...until he held the G2x.

Hahahah....trying to live the best of both worlds !!!!! You know though, don't ya....you can never have your cake and eat it too... :-)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jrwingate6:
I fixed my death grip issue by cranking the wifi strength to max performance. It also helped after putting a gel skin on. Now I can be trip rooms away and not drop a single bar. With my G2X, my WiFi would cut out when sitting in my car out front but the Sensation still gets 2 bars.

In terms of speed. I have found that the G2X ui is snappier but apps on the Sensation feel faster. Google maps also loads faster on the Sensation. I also noticed on the G2X my contact pics would take a second to load but there just there on the Sensation. Its almost as if they don't even need to load.