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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] snofrandy:
Do any of you guys have the White or Black 10.1? I looked in Bay Area California, Las Vegas, Orange County area and none of them seem to have either colors.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Mary_holk:
I was at my BB and they have the white 16 GB and the Fry's had the grey 16 and 32 GB. I've noticed that the websites aren't always accurate.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Xclio:
We on Friday after I got mine there were 10 16GB (mixed batch of white/grey) and one 32GB White left...edit...Best Buy in Charleston, SC
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] snofrandy:
ahh interesting thanks for the tip. where are you from?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Bukem75:
I'm not aware of a black tab 10.1. Just the white back /gray trim and the metallic gray / gray trim models
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] snofrandy:
There's a few photos of it from Samsung's site back then, but it was pulled. There's still some floating around. here's one half-way down the page:

http://techstroke.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-3g-specification-features-price.html
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bucketachicken:
My guess is that the solid black one may be the 3G version then, not the wifi only ones. With various tablets I've noticed color scheme changes like that. Plus, that article says 3G in the title.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zaphyr:
You can see both the white and the black version here:

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/images.html

It seems thay are both 3G, and the URL says it's a global microsite, so I think it will be the same in the US as here in Europe. I've preordered the black one anyways.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Bukem75:
Thanks for the link... Like the metallic gray better tho
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zaphyr:
Apparently the black is supposed to be soft to the touch, like the stuff HTC made the back of their Desire and the plastic covers on the Desire HD of, which I like very much. Can't be sure though ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] -J450N:
I got mine at BB and it was white. They had black and metalic as well.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] reprod:
Just got my 32GB metallic grey 10.1... It's a beautiful piece of technology...

Haven't even powered it on yet since I am at work and I know once it goes on my productivity goes down for the rest of the working day...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] FrezoreR:
Would not say that, but it has another feeling than the white one. There is a texture to the backside, coming from the metallic imitation plastic. It feels solid :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] divineblue:
Bay area BB got a shipment in. I got mine from Fry's in Concord
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Mary_holk:
Still waiting to hear about the Pleasant Hill BB since I went at lunch and they only had the white 32 and not the gray one.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dco717:
Is that just for one line or if ypu have a family plan and get the 5g will it go for both lines
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
well seeing as how there is currently no shared data plan for family plans atm, it will probably be per line, not per family account.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gdi2290:
The majority of people use 2gb of data so that's $30. Right now data cost 30$ so this won't affect the majority. Power users use more than 2 using anywhere from 5-10gb so these power users have to pay extra because Verizon loves money. I use 6gb and sometimes 8gb so ill worry about this when I grab my Droid Incredible 3

sent via unrooted Droid Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Yea these plans are outrageous...I'm never upgrading...ill switch to Sprint or t mobile...or ill buy off contract..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dco717:
Thats dumb im already paying 186 for two phones
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] efaden:
This tired plan really should be renamed to "lower caps and more money plans"..... I'm not entirely sure how on earth anyone could think this is good for the end users.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pinakaeus:
Wait ... can someone please tell me if I'm on a family plan with 3 Smart phones (my Inc2, and 2 Droid Charges) with the unlimited data, when we upgrade or renew our contract, do we get to keep our unlimited data? Or is it unclear to everyone at this moment?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
If you renew your contract, you are no longer grandfathered as you are agreeing to new terms. If you have current data plans with no intention to change/renew in the near future, you are covered with unlimited data. If you buy your device at retail without renewing your contract, your contract should remain the same.

More than likely if you have an unlimited plan, you will eventually start being harassed by Verizon to renew, upgrade, or do something else that will cause contract changes on your part to switch you to a limited data plan.

I am a power user. I have used upwards to 8gb in a month on 3G. Capping at a max of $10 for an ungodly amount per month is unacceptable. This would be too easy to break on 4G and I think that is their intention.

Sprint is pretty proud of their unlimited plans. If Verizon doesn't see the light before it comes time for me to renew again, I may forego my discount and move to Sprint if Sprint continues down the path of unlimited.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SoCalSpecialist:
Nim dude this man be the first time ive ever seen that u were misled or misinformed about something. I too have a family plan set up (5 devices, 4 of which are smartphones) all unltd data and a 1400 min plan, and i have been told time and time again even after the recent purchase of my Inc 2 and my inlaws Charges' im continously told im fine, im grandfathered in.

I really havent seen any flux in my bill if anything i was actually quite surprised with my monthly after the dust settled.

EDIT:

I should also mention that i have a corporate acct, not a regular user acct.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
But everything I've read makes it sound like you are only in for the current contract...and that after its up they won't let you keep a month to month at your current rates. This sucks..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SoCalSpecialist:
well the month to month is being abolished, that's a given. it was a marketing move to reel in more business. Once the contracts are established they were given quazy deals to move from month to month to contractual.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SoCalSpecialist:
i just called into their corporate accounts customer service and asked all about the how to of upgrading my current min/data plan come the end of July.

the rep verbatim said "there is no change that would take affect to my account when upgrading either. She said if necessary they can actually help me by giving me some extra min's if infact i am running low on my current set to hold me over till my next billing cycle".

"but as far as upgrading there are no extra fee's nor changes in packages coming any time soon, that she is aware of".

"so when the time comes in July to simply call and make the upgrade and go ahead and do so".
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pinakaeus:
I talked to some Verizon employees and they all told me that whenever I renew my contract/upgrade with Verizon, I'll still be grandfathered in with the unlimited data, I'll try asking a different store if people have heard different.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] DeviceSettings:
I just called last thursday, and I was asking about canceling. I was really thinking about going to another carrier, I was interested in getting a Nexus S. I wasn't eligible yet for an upgrade, but they gave me an early one which was great. But I was talking to the guy, and his argument to stay was unlimited data, I said that tiered data was going to happen for them as well. He said he nothing of this, hadn't heard anything at all.

So now this, but who knows maybe they leave their employess in the dark. And maybe they dont read up regularly on engadet and droid-life like I do.

But they really need to get the prices down a bit. Tmobile you can get 500mins, unlimited text and 5gb of data for 79.99, The same thing on verizon would now be like over $100 I could be a bit off, but this could hurt them in the future.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] DeviceSettings:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...data-only-new-customers-and-lines/#more-37519

This explains everything in a bit more detail for existing customers.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dco717:
Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SoCalSpecialist:
EXACTLY!

and those of which are on the month to month.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
So if I add a line to my account I'm screwed?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pinakaeus:
I think yeah, unless you add it before July 7th.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Yessssss.....Perfect timing considering I got my phone just recently. Yay grandfathers!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] LowFire82:
HA! I reposted

I am glad to hear about the granfathered lines, won't have to worry about this when I get back to the states and revert back to a non global plan
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
See thread title

Gingerbreak is my preferred method!!!

Thanks God for an update :D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] groaner:
As noted in another thread, I have Gbread on my phone but will wait for some other guineapig to to try it :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
Indeed, lol.

Does CWM work without root? Just curious.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kstricl:
Hi Guinea Pig Here. I started a new thread with quicky instructions

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1132750

Summary is use GingerBreak V1.2
[Fascinate General] DirgeExtinction:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...-verizon-july-7-packages-start-at-30-for-2gb/
[Fascinate General] Bad Bimr:
Glad I have unlimited and keeping fingers crossed that when I get a 4g phone I can keep the unlimited.
[Fascinate General] Advocatus Diaboli:
Sh*t like this is why I'm leaving Verizon after my contract ends later this year. Also,

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...ming-employees-of-impending-tiered-data-plans is Verizon's letter to their emplyees explaining how suddenly capping data plans is a 'good' thing.
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
If and when I lose unlimited, I'm going to att.. Unlimited is the only reason I stayed this long.. They have bent me over with gps oh blackberry, to try and sell vz navigater.. now there sticking it to me with teathering. And there shoving bing down my throat.. Verizon is the scum of the industry, and I'm

gonna push everyone I know into other choices

Sent from my frozen yogurt filled fascinate
[Fascinate General] DirgeExtinction:
AT&T is just as bad. Their data prices are only $5 less and so far don't include LTE.
[Fascinate General] bhfd64:
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[Fascinate General] devlp1213:
lol, everyone knew this was coming... just have to accept it and move on not like we can change it

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate General] pc1990:
Not thatI support Verizon on this but I thought At&t already went to a tiered plan too:confused:. If you don't stay with verizon, your only choice left is really Sprint :o...and that isn't much of a choice in my book. T-mobile is good in terms of customer service and pricing but their coverage is the weakest out of the bunch.
[Fascinate General] Hypera:
I figured that was coming ever since AT%T announced and implemented theirs. Sprint will probably be next. And didn’t Verizon said they will not convert to a tier data plan before?
[Fascinate General] ckirkp79:
My understanding is-if you already have unlimited data, you get to keep it..and there has to be a way to swindle your way into keeping it when you go to renew...they'd be stupid to lose a customer looking to upgrade to a new phone who's been on unlimited data.

I know in 2012 (my renewal update) I'll def give them hell if I try to upgrade to 4g and they say I lose my unlimited-I'll keep my fascinate just out of spite then because frankly this phone kicks major butt anyways:)
[Fascinate General] textron:
The problem is the way they tie phones to plans. So even if you buy a new phone straight up they might make it be "incompatible" with your current plan.
[Fascinate General] FDro:
I'm assuming they will implement it in their system. So when people upgrade or renew their plan they will be forced into the new system with the excuse that they cant do anything since the computer will default you into the plan.
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
then you dont renew your plan and just buy the phone outright... it would be worth it imo to keep unlimited data!
[Fascinate General] bobloblaw1:
You guys need to stop drinking the internet FUD kool-aid and read:

It's still ****ty for new customers, but any one on Verizon now or before the 7th is fine. How long are we all fine....well, we will see. But I would imagine it would be for at least a couple to a few years.
[Fascinate General] fitti28:
existing customers are fine until their contract ends and they want to upgrade to the latest phone. Then they lose their unlimted data unless you buy phone from someone or ebay and no change to contract is done.
[Fascinate General] tps784@yahoo.com:
I am off contract with the fascinate and loving it. I traded a guy my incredible with 2.3 and he thought he was getting the better deal. I am thinking of upgrading before july 7 to the charge so I can get unlimited 4g. Please convince me not too, b/c I really dont have 300 bones to dish out.
[Fascinate General] mkzbdroid:
I would believe this but.....every phone I activate at work clearly defines it as 3G or 4G in the system, 4G is always accompanied by a RTR code, which I assume is retroactive. and any brochure you look at will say 3g smartphone data, or smartphone and has no mention of 4G. Verizon has cleverly drawn the line.....soooo yes you may keep your 3g phone on unlimited but dont count on getting it with 4g, unless you get it before july 7th... just my two cents, based on experience
[Fascinate General] mkzbdroid:
EXACTLY!!!! case in point, try sticking a smartphone on the Nationwide Connect family share plan....NWC was a plan that bundled unlim text, mobile web(not full data) and whatever voice plan.....smartphones are not compatible with these plans and must be changed
[Fascinate General] archalon:
Just make sure you keep your existing plan. Im still sporting an Alltel plan, at least 4 years old, and three phones ago.
[Fascinate General] dw77x:
Perhaps I am being over critical but so what if we keep our current pricing, it's the data that is changing. It does not say your data will not be tiered at 2gb for the same price. :confused:
[Fascinate General] TheMuffStuff:
Lol this is redic. I dont even have unlimited data so it doesnt bother me, but im sure there going to lose alot of customers to this. Sprint Unlimited ftw.
[Fascinate General] eibbed0001:
I guess I'll be paying the same with room to spare on the 2GB plan:

According to my billing summary:

Between April 11 and May 10 I used 683844 KB (0.683844 GB)

Between March 11 and April 10 I used 1246691 KB (1.246691 GB)

Between February 11 and March 10 I used 966998 (0.966998 GB)

http://easycalculation.com/bandwidth-calculator.php
[Fascinate General] garywojdan81:
Same here, and honestly, I still miss Alltel.
[Fascinate General] MattRussNC:
Only problem with keeping existing plan its that you will be stuck on 3g phones. I would be fine if I was able to be locked into my current plan if it allowed me to upgrade to the sgs2 when it comes out. I have three lines with verizon and hate to think of the pain of migrating to another carrier but im not seeing a choice.

For those saying its not that bad since they don't use over 2gs, what happens when something goes wrong. Rogue app starts going crazy your screwed. I normally only do any downloads with files, podcast, and video cast on wifi. What happens if o come home tired and forget to make sure wifi is on. What happens if my home internet is down I don't notice on my phone.

Hate the thought of waking up the next day with a 500 dollar phone bill. Even though I normally don't use over 2gs, that unlimited is a nice safety net.

Hell I have a uncle that drives a truck and uses his dx mainly for gmaps with sat view navigation. He can use over ten gigs just on that.

I don't like it but its time to shop around. In my area sprints out, tmo is looking nice though.

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[Fascinate General] NuclearEMP:
this is just awesome!
[Fascinate General] ckrenek23:
Just have to make sure that when i am near a wifi i am using it but i have time before i switch to a 4g plan. who knows where we will be in a year when i am available for an upgrade
[Fascinate General] fortesquieu:
Current customers will be able to upgrade or renew their contracts and keep their unlimited data.
[Fascinate General] MattRussNC:
Don't think that means you can upgrade to 4g without breaking unlimited. Could be wrong though, hope I am. I went and had a look at the charge and thunderbolt today and wasn't impressed enough to upgrade now.

Loaded quadrant on both and ran it. Before anyone says anything about quadrant, I didn't do it for the number rating. I like to use quadrant to get a visual on the smoothness of the graphics test. Visually the charge was hands down the winner despite coming in 600 points lower. The tb was choppy and quite noticeably slower than the charge. Even though the charge seems great, just kinda have a bad feeling verizon has there fingers into it.

If I had the choice to keep my current plan a upgrade to the sgs2 when it comes out, then I would be happy to keep my lines on vzw.

Really wish vzws data cap worked like tmos to avoid the possibility of quadruple digit phone bills.

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[Fascinate General] Headcase8911:
My thought exactly
[Fascinate General] benb1974:
about to have grandpa get me a safelink phone. at this rate by time my family gets 4g it will cost me 3 4 hundred a month
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
I think some of you are looking at this way to hard... Verizon has always allowed customers to keep thier existing plans even if they do not offer it anymore(im on a plan thats 7yrs old). Really it has to be that way or you can legally opt out of the contract without paying the early termination fee. When you agree to a two year contract, that means your locked in under the terms you agreed upon plain and simple. Thie tiered data plan will be for new customers or current customers that do not have unlimited data. Basically all unlimited data users will be "grandfathered" in under the old data plans. They have to do it this way or millions of dollars would be lost do to customers switching to sprint lol!
[Fascinate General] alohasurf0007:
I want to know what happens to customers who have the %20 discount on the unlimited $29.99 plan. Are all of us with corp discounts going to see a price increase on our aug bill?
[Fascinate General] MattRussNC:
The issue to me is for those of us that only have 3g phones, will w be able to upgrade to a 4g phone after july7 without losing unlimited?

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[Fascinate General] MattRussNC:
Miss clicked, sorry for the double post.
[Fascinate General] drnihili:
I think this is right. The problem for me will be when my kid gets a cell phone in the next couple of years. We'll have to see what the market looks like at that point, but likely the whole family will go with whoever has the best deal of the moment. I have exactly zero provider loyalty.
[Fascinate General] noyha:
I know only time will tell with their plan. I know many are switching their plans. I am sure that 4G will be converted to the new plan. I still got a year left before, I need to worry about it. But I won't be surprised if all carrier is follows att&T and verizon soon.

drnihili: I know how you feel, my son are waiting to get his cell phone so who knows what happens when he needs one.
[Fascinate General] kidserious:
Yes we will. I called and talked at length with a verizon support operator. We will be able to keep our unlimited plan even when switching to another phone, even a 4g phone.
[Fascinate General] dw77x:
I hope you are right. I have seen so many conflicting reports It's hard to know what to believe. I wouldn't put it past Verizon to purposely let this question remain unanswered hoping to get users to upgrade early.

I may end up being one of them. I have an upgradeable line on my plan but was hoping to use it for something else down the road.
[Fascinate General] theGross1:
I call BS. We won't be able to keep our unlimited when upgrading after july 7th. They'll probably call their plans something like "data pro" and "data basic". Then when you look at phone prices it will read $199* w/data pro or data basic package. Therefore, making our unlimited data not compatible with the discounted phone price. If you want to keep your unlimited you're going to buy your phone out right.
[Fascinate General] kidserious:
http://goo.gl/Nw2Et Look under "existing customer rules" And, for the hell of it, check this one out as well: http://goo.gl/AugRx
[Fascinate General] theGross1:
Thank you. I've already seen that.

"No length of time has been set for this". I know what is said and what actually happen are two different things.

I was supposed to get yearly upgrades but I don't get those anymore even though I was in contract before they changed this.

This won't last forever
[Fascinate General] marcelletta9:
Verizion keeps getting worse an worse
[Fascinate General] prehistorical:
Based on past experience (n=1), you keep the corporate discount (and if this was accidentally dropped, you can re-enable the corporate discount typically though your work intranet or a phone #supplied by your HR subject to verification that you are still a current employee).

You shouldn't get charged a higher bill unless you change plans (which comes with a lot of new fine print, so it should be obvious if this occurs). Typically happens at renewal with new phone features.

YMMV

:)
[Fascinate General] Ianxcom:
I called Verizon back to back. One said we can upgrade and the other said we can't. They don't know what the hell they are doing over there.
[Fascinate General] Zerg The Bear:
It depends on how Verizon sets up this new pricing structure internally. I had a broadband card through Verizon back when it was $80/month. I did get my corporate discount on that rate.

They then changed the rate down to $60/month, but I no longer received a discount. This was still less than I was paying before, but I didn't know why the discount didn't apply. When I asked about it, they mentioned that the new rate was set up as a "promotional" rate and didn't apply to my discount.

I haven't had the card in about a year, but at no time did I get my discount on the $60 service (though I still got it on my cell service).
[Fascinate General] Ianxcom:
Well guys, ihad to jump ship. All the uncertainty made me get a thunderbolt. Just when cm7 finally got perfect. I will be back though when sgs2 comes to big red. I'll be checking in from time to time.