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[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
Most of the reviews if not all ***** about the 3d. Some discuss the call quality. Taking 50+ 3d photos and getting 14 hours is great batt life. My evo gets about 9 if I'm monitoring my radios and such. This phone would get praised out the ass if 3d wasn't included. Read the reviews and take out the issues with 3d ( which people are forgetting is optional) and they read favorable across the board. This phone was held as high as possible when it was first speculated, the only difference now is the reviewers don't like 3d. Their reviews aren't even really for us xda people, more for average consumer. So I say, if you're not getting it, fine, but please stop trying to take others with you.

/rant
[EVO 4G General] Biofall:
I completely understand about others. That's why I was saying for me, personally, there was no loss. Sprint will ALWAYS push upgrades if you know what to say.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I know, that's why I bolded the 'iDENTIFIERS.' ;)

And you don't think Sprint is marking your account for 'forced' upgrades? People like Fred can only call and complain and receive compensation for so long. Him being lied to, then getting the 'bump' as it was obvious he had called in and recorded on the account ... as every call on your account is tracked ...

I'm just saying, don't expect to be able to pull it off every year. I'm glad I have the yearly upgrades, but I don't necessarily like the idea of having to 'buy' in for the extra time. That's part of the reason I choose to buy off-c. Just like getting the ETF waived. It won't work every time, or forever. There isn't a 'password.' You can only call and complain about possibly leaving before Sprint eventually says 'GO.' Sprint catches on, like everyone else. To say 'ALWAYS' is a pretty strong belief. How old did you say you were? 17? How many times have you done as much? It worked this time, sure. Next year? Maybe. Strong maybe. Following year? I'll buy you a beer, even if you're underage, if that happens. ;)
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
You guys are right in bashing some of the reviewers but you have to understand; its very hard to be non biased. They are not total professionals. They have emotions that bias their thinking

Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Agreed.

Engadget's slogan should be:

"If it's not Apple it's poop"

Reviews are pretty worthless, especially in the realm of cell phones.

You're best bet is to test the phone yourself when it comes out.

It wouldn't surprise me if battery life can easily get to 2 days worth on "light to medium usage"
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
It's not even that. Look at a REAL journalist. I grew up in a family of them. Personal thoughts and opinions aside, you REPORT. You don't take sides even if it is the right one. Then again, most of us should know where certain sites stand when it comes to 'reviewing' or 'reporting' on something. As we all know, a 'journalist' doesn't have to report from the middle. It all depends on where you choose to get your info from. I find it fun reading reviews and opinions from all over. Adds a bit of perspective, sometimes, and other times it is a healthy reminder.

A credible tech site doesn't take stances. And, yes, such sites exist.

And, honestly, because Engadget gave the original Evo a 9/10 it wasn't **** before? Engadget was junk two years ago. Engadget went down hill before things got real. C'mon, people.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Oh my God... I just agreed with conqu1stador.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Did anyone hear that?

Did someone just fart?
[EVO 4G General] #Winning#:
How did you manage the credit for $125?!
[EVO 4G General] Biofall:
I literally just noticed that you bolded them. It made a LOT more sense when I saw that was your point. Sorry for being redundant. Anyway..

I come from a family of.. um, con artist manipulators. I have gotten my mom's primary line pushed twice, then we switched to verizon, then back to sprint, gotten hers pushed once, and mine once. That's four times in three years. That's not to mention how I don't need to get an upgrade pushed to get easy money out of sprint. Their loopholes are embarrassing. I got 6 (read it) six TP2's from the same sprint store and did NOTHING illegal. Hit me up with a pm for the details if you care to know.
[EVO 4G General] Biofall:
Completely unintentionally, actually. The first 25 was because that was the first part of the $75 credit needed to push my secondary line's activation up. The other 50 got denied, and when he called back and apologized, he said he would credit it $100 for the inconvenience. He just forgot about the first 25 I guess. I told the sprint rep I wanted to upgrade BOTH lines early, knowing that wouldn't happen. I was surprised when he said it would, and when it fell through, I got the desired compensation for my "disappointment".
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Hey man, didn't mean for that to come across as an 'implication of illegality' or anything. I realize that might have seemed 'dickish,' but that was not my point. Hell, if you can pull it off repeatedly I do not care. I applaud! I'm not going to front like some do, was merely saying. Hell, take note, and lemme know in the future. Provided, of course, that I'm still around (;)) and I'll front you beer money or send you some [seriousitalics]choice beer[/seriousitalics]. I was serious. I'm not rooting against you, but being in certain environments and seeing how these things go, I can only go off my own experience / personal viewing. Sometimes such things are only good one, twice, maybe three times over. I'm rooting for you. Honestly. Seem like a good kid, so I'm not hoping for any ill will or misfortune in future Sprint dealings. I hope you, as well as others, will come back and give their totally serious and honest opinion on the phone as well. It is a tempting buy, no doubt. I'm just thinking I should sit a while and see where things go with the other options. :)
[EVO 4G General] Biofall:
Eh don't worry, I'm not afraid of illegality, I'm just proud that I don't have to be :P

I am always coming up with ways to circumvent and get free stuff. Sure, I could hold off and get a better phone when it comes out, but can't you always? Someone said that technology is either obsolete or a prototype, and I kinda live by that as much as my "creative circumvention" allows. Maybe next year when my hardest workload ever hits the hell outta me I'll straighten up, but I handled being an androidmaniac and pulling straight a's outta my ass at the same time without too much pain. We'll see.

Friend request sent.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
Yeah, right... "poop"

HTC Droid Incredible - 8/10

HTC Evo 4G - 9/10

T-Mobile G2 - 8/10

Google Nexus S - 8/10

LG G2X - 8/10

HTC Incredible 2 - 8/10

Samsung Galaxy S II - 9/10

HTC Sensation - 8/10

I honestly don't know where you people come up with this stuff. You read one bad review of a phone you were planning on getting, take it personally, and start labeling an entire company as extremely biased... Ever consider that maybe Apple just makes better products than most of the legions of android smartphones and tablets? :cool:
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
My opinion has nothing to do with their review of the Evo 3D.

I haven't made my mind up on getting the Evo 3D and I have NOT read Engadget's review on it.

I suggest you read an Engadget article or two.

Their sarcasm against other platforms and clear bias towards Apple is BLATANTLY obvious and annoying.

I recall an article about the Black Berry play book the other day where they posted what RIM claimed (as far as the amount of tablets shipped) and the attitude of "oh yeah the word is SHIPPED, not SOLD" was so ridiculous[and completely unnecessary].

They would NEVER say or suggest anything of that nature about Apple.

Its not hard to be unbiased, Engadget should try it.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
If they didn't recognize other devices as being quality then they would lose all credibility. The EVO review was poorly done and very biased and if its not clear that it was a poor review than you should read a few more well rounded reviews to see the difference. Myriam reviews this phone like it did something wrong to her and I'm not sure why. On the other hand, she reviews the SGS2 as essentially flawless while several other reviewers have clearly pointed out obvious flaws and drawbacks that are for some reason absent from the engadget review. Then, with the EVO 3D review she made a huge deal about minor flaws while giving few accolades on a phone that obviously deserves many. As a camera guru she may be pretty good but as far as a cell phone reviewer, she kinda sucks.

I'm not defending the phone, I'm just pointing out that a poorly executed review is exactly that. There is only one review that matters and that is mine. I will check out the 3D on launch day and make my own decision.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
Well, someone else did the Galaxy S II review (vlad? I think...).

But I agree, she seems to be pretty bad at reviewing phones. And people talk talk sh*t all they want, but the old head honcho over there, Topolsky, when he reviewed a phone, it was in-depth and thorough. And contrary to popular belief, I found his reviews to be unbiased as well.

Stuff myriam complained about doesn't make sense, and is often times factually incorrect. She claims that it has bad battery life because it only lasted 14 hours, yet she was taking a ridiculous amount of pictures and video (a lot of which was in 3D). I'd consider that really good battery life. But what REALLY got me, was that she said that it's battery life was worse the the Evo 4G?? I'd be lucky to get my stock evo to last 14 hours just sitting on my desk, let alone taking over 100 pictures.
[EVO 4G General] aph:
Locked is irrelevant, the Evo also has it locked.

Encrypted is what we are trying to avoid.
[EVO 4G General] Blameme:
A bowl is a circle...
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
A door can be ajar
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Lol if you believe anything from that review by engaget you dense. First of all, Engadget got 14 hours in a 3g coverage area with wimax scanning the entire time. That makes it a pretty damn good battery. Engadget doesn't have a standardized way of testing batteries so you can't even compare 2 of their own reviews together.
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Apple makes a phone that you cannot hold in a certain way if you plan on making a call or using data and Engadget still gives it a 9/10. The iPhone 4 has a major design flaw that was fixed by giving away a free case! I'm sorry but having to add a product to a product to get it to function properly doesn't scream quality to me.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Great point.
[EVO 4G General] :
7/10 Engadget Review for e3D is bogus and bull****. That phone is 9/10. As for iPhone 4, it also deserves a 9/10. I came from a iPhone 3G to my Evo and was in love with it. Apple makes great products, that is why I also own an Ipod Touch 4G. The only problem with iphone "NO WIDGETS" and customization. However, their multitasking and new notifications system is genius.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Copying is genius now?

I guess that's Apple for you. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] :
Everyone copies each other, that's how new ideas come up. The whole "who made it first" thing really doesn't bother me. Lol go look in the "Post Your Home Screens" thread in the xda general forums and notice that 90% of the screen shots are identical and share similar ideas.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Hate or love it, Apple makes the best consumer products and deserve good scores. Yet to see a Android, BB, or WebOS phone that is as good overall as the iPhone. Same can be said about laptops and tablets.

Deservingly so. Everyone is gunning for the iPad, look at the ads. Yet no one comes close. Playbook was a use case and commercial flop.

they would if Apple actually sucked as bad the competition. They aren't perfect by any means but their lows aren't nowhere near as low.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
:rolleyes:

I don't know why anyone else bothers to even try to compete with Apple.

Oh by the way, you're holding it wrong.

Could you imagine if someone besides Apple made such a serious design flaw?

Engadget wouldn't ever review them again as they wouldn't be worthy enough.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Competition is always good. You just can't accept that the OEMs are still playing catch up.

I'm holding my iPhone 4 wrong and still get a good 3 mbps more than you do on your EVO.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I see lying is in your arsenal too.

No more replies to you, have a good day.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't know of you paid attention but they were all over that news for weeks. People then realized that it wasn't a big issue. Hell, the antenna issues on my Nexus S 4G are much worse than the antenna of the iPhone 4 (which wasn't one at all for me).
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Weren't you the one saying that you were happy with hitting 200 kbps on Sprint's 3g?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
And now you're putting words in my mouth?

You don't even have an Evo.

Feel free to join your pals in the Nexus sub-forum.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I do have a EVO 4G. Just flashed the latest MIUI a hour ago too. I'm not like certain people who talk **** about stuff they have no real experience with.
[EVO 4G General] Biofall:
Believe me, as much as I'd LOVE to join in to this friendly little debate, I think it should stop with this post. Or I'll get a moderator to check this thread out. Honestly, if you step back and look at the bigger picture here, if people like iOS products, they like it for it's streamlined and fluid interfacing (and apple..) and if you like android then it's probably the user customizability and the power. It doesn't matter either way, it's a choice. People know their options.
[EVO 4G General] :
lmao

Sent from my......ummm...let me get back at'chya!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Hilarious.
[EVO 4G General] fernando sor:
these photos look pretty good to me

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-first-test-photo
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Lmao!

Bet Engadget would give it a 9/10 review too!
[EVO 4G General] MrDrumngun:
I would not bet on that. I doubt they unpacked all of those boxes just to unlock the bootloader after they changed their policy.
[EVO 4G General] MrDrumngun:
Personally I am holding out for the Nexus 3 in hopes that Sprint gets it in December. I really hope so.
[EVO 4G General] MrDrumngun:
And if you ask me, the Engadget review is bull **** regarding the battery life. Every single radio on and you expect the batter to last long?! Seriously. I think 14 hours is pretty damn good for GPS, WiMax, etc...
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
They wouldn't have to. They could send an ota out the day the phone is released.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Probably runs about $100+ to for that fake hand with the apple logo. The sad part is people would buy them.
[EVO 4G General] DoctorComrade:
Lol wat?

Myriam != Chris
[EVO 4G General] fernando sor:
as ive said and numerous others on this thread the phone will still need to be rooted.

its all about their signature. is the bootloader encrypted. all htc phones have needed to be hacked and rooted.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
You're assuming the phones were boxed and ready to ship at the time of HTCs policy change...
[EVO 4G General] RileyGrant:
Im still curious why youd be viewing a qHD stereoscopic screen from angles in excess of 60 degrees? lol

And its an Evo, you really expect it to ship with good battery life? Ya right.
[EVO 4G General] raabusmc:
Less we not forget about Samsung's HORRIBLE updates or lack there of. Love Samsung but HTC is great for the dev community and updates are shortly after the Nexus time period
[EVO 4G General] cdszoke:
I agree. Yet, Samsung is trying to redeem themselves by not only making a really balanced phone (Galaxy S 2), but, they also gave a free phone to Atinm from Cyanogen Mod. Believe it or not but the Galaxy S 2 is going to be more customizable than HTC's new phones.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-shows-affection-to-cyanogenmod-gives-its-devs-a-free-ga/
[EVO 4G General] cdszoke:
The biggest complaint over the Evo 4g was and still is battery life. You would think HTC would actually listen to their customers and actually try to fix this problem. I'm sorry my phone can give me godlike speed and tickle me in special places, but, if it dies in the middle of a trip leaving me look like an asshole asking to use other pplz phones, than, all the specialness means nothing. Don't get me wrong I love my evo 4g and I learned to deal with the battery issue by buying 3 spare batteries one being a 3500mah beast. But, why should I have to buy extra **** when there's phones out there that can easily last a whole day under heavy usage.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dude...14 hours of battery life with every radio (including wimax searching for a signal) is pretty damn good if you ask me.
[EVO 4G General] ronnienyc:
The Nexus screen is somehwat higher contrast than the original Evo 4G, but it is also pixelated. Between the pixelation and the fact that the Nexus is generally less responsive to touch, the Evo wins IMO.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
A GSM phone really does nothing for anyone looking to develop for sprint so that they gave them a phone is irrelevant unless you are planning to change carriers.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I think the idea is they are trying to step their game up and such is some sort of indication of as much.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Or a publicity stunt to win back customers. Doesn't erase the poor history or failures they have shown the past few years.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Samsung phone coming to Sprint as the Conquer 4G

I think I'll stick with the Evo 3D
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Oh sure, that's why I said 'the idea.' Things could well change, but only time will tell.

Also, I can't say that the Evo 3D reviews have put me anymore off a purchase than I as before, but I have been thinking more about getting up on it than I was. Buuut, I am in no rush and waiting to hear of possible Nexus 3 news. :)
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
Troll

Troll

Troll

Troll

Troll

Troll-ity Trooooooooll Troll-ity Troll

Troll

Troll

Seriously, the Evo battery life sucked and the display is subpar from the original sgs and the iphone 4, but I don't see you with an iphone or a samsung, OP.

Thus,

Troll Troll Troll....
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Does Samsung really NEED to win back customers though? I could be wrong but the last time I looked they were selling more Android phones than anyone else.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
^The definition of pwned.

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G General] murphyrw:
I upgraded my evo to a sensation on T-Mobile. Couldn't be happier.
[Thunderbolt General] yamaha83:
so did a battery pull trying to fix an sms problem and when i booted back up i started getting some FC and now lost most (not all) of my contacts and no longer can get into gmail and the market? the apps are there but when i click them they just look like they are opening and then i get put back to the home screen?? one of the pop ups i keep getting is the location consent? i have tried restarting a few times with no luck... also when i go to option and then to accounts and then add account, i no longer have gmail on there?
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
Recovery,

Wash,

Rinse,

Repeat.
[Thunderbolt General] yamaha83:
just did that and all is back to normal... was hoping there was a way around wiping all and tsarting over though... hopefully it wont happen again! not sure what caused it...
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
Unfortunately, the best way to take care of these odd happenings is usually get back to a known good configuration, then try again to pinpoint the source of the error.

Glad to hear your back up and running though.
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
I believe I know the cause to this. Go SMS seems to beat the ever living hell out of Gingerbread when you uninstall it. I had this same exact issue and the cure was either do not remove Go SMS for any reason, or never install it.
[Thunderbolt General] Cubs2008:
Go SMS can also be a pain to upgrade and goes nuts with memory issues that aren't really there. I use it and love it but it's tempermental for sure.
[Thunderbolt General] jcase:
GO apps (at least some) collect info and send it back to the developers without telling you.
[Thunderbolt General] Cubs2008:
Yippie. Go means stop.
[Thunderbolt General] Beastclaw:
Just thought I would share this story I read this morning. This isn't to cause fear or even suggest that the ROM's we use are susceptible to this, I just figured its always better to share information.

http://www.net-security.org/malware...ign=Feed:+HelpNetSecurity+(Help+Net+Security)
[Thunderbolt General] yareally:
It's only an issue because of developers that were signing their software with the aosp platform keys (which are publicly available for anyone to use) when they should be using their own private key.

That's just a form of laziness and stupidity in terms of security. The developers either figured no one would ever think of doing this (security through obscurity) or they just didn't realize that someone could do this (and have no clue how public/private key encryption works). Either one is bad.

I mean, you wouldnt use a publicly available ssh private key to access your server, would you? Or in layman's terms, you wouldn't put a lock on your door that everyone has or could get a key to, would you?
[Defy General] techguyone:
Hopefully sourced from a UK seller, I need to know which 32 gig micro SD card will reliably work in a defy, not too worried about what class speed it is, long as it works. Any ideas, Ebay, amazon etc?
[Defy General] dew.man:
I've had problems with Sandisk and Kingston (both class 6). However, my Topram class 4 32gb card has been working flawlessly (knock on wood).
[Defy General] techguyone:
Interesting, a slower class, works better perhaps ?
[Defy General] droid_atoll:
Lexar micro sd card. 32gb, 10 class. Amazon)

sent from my MotoDefy
[Defy General] viper.:
You should contact dave79 ... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12944866&postcount=30

about Memorette 32GB class 10.
[Defy General] techguyone:
Will do, I left him a PM, funny how some folk are having problems with proper named brands like Sandisk though, I wouldn't have expected that.
[Defy General] mihaidenis:
they had problems because they are fake or rejected batches from factory(sell it online)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] stevicc:
i was following this tut http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12898827&postcount=3 and i´m stuck on fastboot drivers because they are up to date. i ve already tried many drivers but no ones were working. i´m on 32 bit win 7. Is there anyone who could help me?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] eoghan2t7:
have you tryed my all in one driver pack?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] m4rk0358:
I thought I posted this before I left work this morning but might have forgotten to hit "send".

Anyway, I'm having trouble installing the latest google voice update? I keep getting a "Package file was not signed correctly" error message.

The 'recently changed in this version' lists battery usage improvements so I really want to give this a try.

Is there something I can do to push this update through?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] trollallot:
Can you send it to me and I'll sign it for your and put it in a flashable zip.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] m4rk0358:
How exactly can I send it to you? Does it show up in my download folder?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] m4rk0358:
Hello?

Can anyone explain how I can sign it myself?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] rushco:
Uninstall the one you have installed then go to the market and get the latest. When installing make sure to hit skip and install the old way otherwise you will make your sprint number your google voice number.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] gqukyo:
You can just disable it again via the Google Voice settings through the website so it's not the end of the world if u select it by accident which is what I did... :p