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[Thunderbolt General] itsdubai:
oh $hit.

Hey guys, I stumbled across this and I am still on edge on what to do about my bricked Thunderbolt. It is in good condition, it is not beat to hell, the box it arrives in will not be damaged haha BUT it will not power on :( I told the Verizon REP on the phone that after a OTA update it would not boot up. Anyway after he said he is shipping a new? prolly refurb to me, he said "if we find any evidence that you have rooted or hacked this device in any way, we will charge you the full retail price for the phone to your Verizon Wireless account." Whoa! back the **** up haha. I calmly told him I have never rooted mine be4. LIES!! I have rooted and put so many roms on here that its crazy. I talked to everyone including Jcase and DougPiston on IRC and everyone else and they said it has to be a hardware problem because it was a launch device. It will not respond to anything. NADA! No ADB! No button pressing! Nothing! Sorry for such the long post, I am tweaking right now haha. So what is the general consensus? Should I replace it under warranty from Verizon or HTC or pay the Moo-Lah and replace it under my insurance?

THANKS!
[Thunderbolt General] robsonline:
It sound like the hardware to me too, but I would listen to Jcase and the other devs. They have far more experience with these phones then I. If you don't want to risk it, just pay the $90 for the peace of mind.

Personally, I would put it in the box, and send it off. Good luck with your decision.

Rob
[Thunderbolt General] xNitebreedx:
If it truly is bricked then Verizon or HTC won't be able to get it running either, so they won't know it was rooted....If it's not bricked, they may.

I don't know that I believe that VZ doesn't care if you root or not....I'd take the 5 extra minutes to either unroot (if not bricked obviously) or destroy my phone to make extra sure no sign of root. It certainly can't hurt you.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] hved999:
hey i just rooted the phone. I can't see the install file in root explorer and I can't boot into the recovery anymore. what do i do?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] hved999:
nevermind i got it
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] hmpm9:
Root explorer will not let me make /etc R/W. I press the gray button that says "Remount as R/W" but nothing happens
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] nowens0520:
I'm not sure if you're reading the instructions correctly. You don't create /etc R/W.

In root explorer go to /etc directory and click on "Mount R/W" then rename the install file.

If there is a remount option, you probably already mounted.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] QuasarZ:
Awesome thanks.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jckeyser:
This is great, thanks. Is anyone having success? I have to wait until after work to do this.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Maximilian Mary:
Some root apps require BusyBox in order to work properly.

Edit: I think nandroid backup and BusyBox install should be part of every proper root guide.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] nowens0520:
FYI: The second steps 1-6 are ONLY necessary if clockwork recovery doesn't stick.

I didn't have to use these steps myself.

To see if it stuck, turn phone off. Then hold Volume UP + Power to enter bootloader. Then enter recovery, if it enters Clockwork Recovery. You're fine, and you don't need to do the second steps 1-6.

-Nick
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] austineasleyinfo:
Thanks man, just unrooted my phone to return it for the e3d. Worked absolutely flawlessly. Great write up.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] cory.mallory:
Worked to unroot. Had to give it a couple tries but got it to work. Thanks for the great tutorial!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Jeremiah239:
Thank you, It took me 5 mins and I now have root on my NS4G!!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Lokario90:
2) Download Clockwork 4.0.0.2 (****MAKE SURE YOU SELECT ONE OF THE NS4G VERSIONS*****) in the color of your choosing. Move the file into the adb-fastboot folder you created in Step 1.

Im not able to download this file... I tried all three... and it keeps saying Mounting Failed.

What am I doing wrong? :confused:

PLEASE HELP!!!! Im new to rooting... Im tired of paying people to do the rooting for me I want to learn on my own...

Thank you.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] LordLugard:
You can see that as giving back to the economy in one way... :p
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] LordLugard:
I could swear when i rooted early this morning on my virgin NS4G, it was 3.0.something and now i see it is now 4.0.something. Anyway i had to get inventive as the SD card would not mount on my Mac when i got to that part. Basically rebooted normally to reg Android, transferred SU to SD card(it mounted then) and got back to the step to flash SU. Did that manually, got a hold of ROM manager and all's well.

Only issue is that more often than not it still boots to the blue recovery and not CWM, and sometimes the Android guy with yellow rectangle. When that happens, i connect to Mac via USB and get to CWM via terminal.

But on the whole, ROM manager is a saviour. Been playing with MIUI rom now and it's impressive.

I assume the right way to boot into CWM is to hold down volume key and power key at the same time?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jckeyser:
Trying to unroot to send it back for a replacement. At "~/Desktop/adb-fastboot/adb reboot bootloader" I'm getting "error: device not found." It's driving me bat****. Any ideas?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kalex:
jckeyser - I know it might sound stupid but did u try a different usb cable? i just came across same issue as you. was unable to get my device to show up. Turns out cable i was using for some reason wasn't working with NS4G. It was my old Palm Pre cable. i swapped my cable for one that came with my kindle and device immediately showed up without any problems
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Maximilian Mary:
You're missing a dash. It's

adb reboot-bootloader

.

Or you could boot into fastboot by powering on using volumeUp+Power.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] themassofthesun:
2.3.5

Hey guys, just got the NS4G yesterday and want to root using this method. The best buy associate updated me from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 without my knowledge and I was curious if this method would still work. If not, is there one that will.

Thanks
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] bigtoysrock:
Yes it will work just fine.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] djshack:
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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jawonder:
I'm trying to use the fastboot section of your tutorial to cash a recovery on my Galaxy Nexus i did this- ~/Desktop/adb-fastboot/fastboot flash recovery ~/Desktop/adb-fastboot/cwmr_touch_beta5_toro-1.img

See the recovery i'm trying to flash at the end ?. I keep getting no such file exist and i have the .img file in the adb-fastboot folder. Am i doing something wrong or this can't work ? . In the adb-fastboot folder on my desktop i have :- adb, fastboot and the cwmr_touch_beta5_toro-1.img .
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p0xer:
the lock screen showing: "Swipe finger sensor."

and i did swipe.. pretty hard and.. there's no vibration.. no error.. nothing happens.

if i'll reboot now, it'll be working again.

but i'd like to avoid it

is there anyway to restart the fingerprint service?

thanks

I'm on 1.8.3 GladiAtrix b0.2.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoob8000:
One of my many pet peeves with this phone. I rebooted around 12-15 times yesterday because of the reader. Seems to be getting more and more frequent of late.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00cubano:
Does the fingerprint sensot has multiple uses? e.g. log in to google account or bank account
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Phone only. Could be used for other purposes, but so far only phone unlock.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p0xer:
so.. i'll keep rebooting? :/

i really hope this get fixed on the upcoming 2.3.4
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Have you verified that the fingerprint service has in fact stopped, or are you assuming it is and rebooting?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtzkingplaya:
this would happen to me all the time i called motorla and att. motorla said i could send the phone in to repair and it would take a week and i cant live a week with out a phone so att shipped me one and that one went bad to and i got another one so im on my 3rd atrix i rooted and installed the 4.5 gingerblur rom and idk what it is with the rom but so far its been fine its been almost a month and no problems so far i use the scanner every day as well it has hit a nitch once or twice but once i reboot it works again hope this helps
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoob8000:
Again I'll echo, this is the last Moto product I'll buy..

I need to remember to check the service or keep a logcat running.

I've noticed it quits working the most when unlocking while I'm on a call..
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mgamerz:
There are multiple other threads on this subject already, please use search before you post a new thread.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Took a deep breath before reading this one. LOL
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
Hi there

Has anyone who has imported a galaxy tab 10.1 from the states to Europe/UK comment on their experience please, ie how much was duty, tax, VAT, where from etc.

Its just that Im planning on buying one from ebay US since the tab isnt probably going to arrive here in France till after september and I've already been waiting to buy a tab since the original 7 inch tab came out and cant wait anymore!

cheers
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snoopstah:
You will pay a hefty premium on eBay, sellers look like they are charging way over retail, plus tax when it arrives with you.

It's a bit early for anyone to have any experiences yet, unless they got one from Best Buy in NY last week, but then they'd have probably brought it back in person and may have avoided taxes.

I ordered mine from Amazon via a mail forwarder, should be with me by the middle of next week. Expecting to pay around ~25% of the value in taxes and duty, so anything less than that is a bonus. Still works out to about the same price as the wifi Xoom over here, so I'm happy.

You will need to do research for your country as to what is charged if you want to have any hope of an exact price.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackie_jagger:
Great I found this thread !!

Amazon isn't having issues shipping to mail forwarders right? Because best buy is, also amazon selling white or metallic grey?

thanks in advance

Cheers
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
There is no import duty on the tablet in the UK, but you will pay VAT at 20%. A guy on these forums posted about www.bundlebox.com which is a forwarder. Apparently they offer warranty cover as well. We are discussing it over here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1127772
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notfaded1:
White are BB exclusive so if it's from anywhere but BB they are metallic grey plasic made to look like metal.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
Which mail forwarder do you use?

And which method did Amazon use to ship your item to the mail forwarder?

I have setup mail forwarder (BongoUS.com), but I don't sign the USPS form 1583. So, the mail forwarder cannot accept item shipped via USPS. Anything else, UPS or FedEx are OK.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saeko:
I'm using Comgateway as the freight forwarder to ship my tab to Australia. I've used them several times and the service was great. They are based in Portland, Oregon..so you don't have to pay any state sales tax. They will ship your item through DHL.

Amazon used ONTRAC when they sent my order and it reached CGW on Friday morning.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
Ok, so what will you do if the item is faulty?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
You are asking about warranty :)

Of course this is the risk for people who import because as we all knew, the GT10.1 does not have international warranty.

It is a gamble, but it is not the end of the day.

You can return it, but you must pay the shipment your-self. More or less like this. Fried forwarder will handle return.

So, it is your choice.

It is a big gamble in terms of cost. If it is OK, then good! If it is not OK, it means you must spend more money (return processing).

NOTE: I checked comGateway.com, it seems OK, but I don't find any business address or customer support phone numbers. This makes me think to use their service, although it should be OK (I read some reviews). But, I want to be able to contact them quickly (by phone) if anything bad happens.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saeko:
Electronics are late & overpriced here, so I guess it's a risk I'm willing to take when importing stuffs :) If, the product is faulty...most probably will try to contact samsung or return it to amazon.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
Ive been looking into the forwarder Viaddress. Has anyone else used them or heard anything about them? They advertise themselves as being much better than the others. Also Im not keen on filling out the 1583 form so Im thinking about using Tigerdirect as they use UPS to ship items as opposed to Amazon where you cant choose your carrier.

update: from what Ive read, Viadress doesnt seem to be a very trustworthy service. I think Im going to go with one of the ones thats been mentioned here instead.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
I am going to use TigerDirect as well for UPS shipment.

And for the forwarder, I use BongoUS.com. This is my first time experience.

So far they are ok, support responded my questions quickly, also checked their live chat. And they have phone number where you can contact, also the company address is clearly visible in their website.

https://bongous.com/contact.php

However, to use that, you must pay one time fee $5 (no monthly fee) and your credit card will be verified (by sending a small amount $0.1 - $1.0 and you need to tell them that).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
Im looking at using Bundlebox now. They seem very good. All tax/duties are included. Its going to cost me 559euros all up for the 32GB model. I think thats pretty good. How much is it costing you? btw I think we're having the same conversation over 2 threads lol
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
I don't like the included tax with the forwarder.

Because there is chance their calculation is wrong? Or double charged by the tax office in our country?

So, I want the forwarder to not include the tax. The custom will charge the tax anyway.

Seems safer to me.

I have no idea how much in total because I don't know how to calculate the tax in NL.

I could assume VAT 20% though :) ... shipping cost to NL would be around $50. .... So, ($500 + 20% * $500) = $600 + $50 shipping = $650 USD = 454 euro ... not bad.

But again, I don't know the tax/duty, never done this before.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
There is no duty in France but there is VAT/tax. Calculated on their site its 95euro, which is around the 18.6% VAT charged on goods+shipping costs etc. So its correct. And even if when it arrives I have to pay more, I can just refuse it (unless its only a couple of euros)

On the bundlebox site they show you the tax/duty by country

From their site for NL:

http://www.dutycalculator.com/help_center/Import-duty-taxes-when-importing-into-the-Netherlands/
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
Thanks for the calculator, I found there is no duty as well. So, it's good :)

I will order this evening at TigerDirect.

And you? Made up your mind? :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
No problem. Yeah Ive just pulled the trigger on my bundlebox account. So Im all setup. Just need to go to tigerdirect now. I want the dock as well but its not in stock yet. I can wait for that though, cant wait anymore for the tab.

goodluck!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
LOL! Forget TigerDirect, it does not accept CC from NL nor FR :)

Damn ...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
Isn't Amazon listed on BundleBox as one of the most popular stores used? If so, surely you can use Amazon?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackie_jagger:
does anyone know the dimensions of the package? also check out this one

www.shopandship.com
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
Yeah just found that out. Im trying to use Paypal as well and dont seem to be having any success there either.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoekie:
@Gogol

Tigerdirect accepts paypal. That should work, wouldn't it?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
OK Ive just bought it via amazon and chosen 1 day shipping. Im hoping that its not delivered via USPS otherwise I'll have to fill out that damn form.

Fingers crossed
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felix-loesch:
Please let us know whether they ship with USPS or not. I need that info before I actually order it with amazon.com. I will use bongous.com as well.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
So, for those of you who have taken the plunge... how is it going so far?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinky73:
Personal experience....bought TWO Google I/O tabs on well known auction site at probably slightly less or same as what they will eventually retail in france (500€ish)...as they are not on market yet and are in boxes marked "not for sale" the customs people have very little to go on here in the land of wine and cheese and with the help of sellers declaring as pre-production models with low notional value, both have cost zero duty paid ;) well worth doing, they are class pieces of kit...

Cheers :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
Weren't you worried about the lack of any warranty?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
We dont pay duty anyway on electronics here in france :)

As an update to my experience though, just received confirmation email from amazon that my tab has been shipped. VIA UPS!!!!!. So stoked. For those interested, I used next day delivery and it seems that amazon uses UPS instead on USPS, so no extra form to fill out.

It should arrive at my bundlebox address tomorrow so now Im just waiting for an email from them to sort out delivery to France.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
Warranty is a

gamble

, because it is not entitled for international warranty :)

If you are not ready to take the risk, then don't import.

Once I imported from UK (Nexus S) and got a perfect one. If not, I must re-package and ship it back to UK, which means cost money.

Same with importing from US. If you want to return it, then you must ship it back.

PS: I have canceled all my attempts to import from US as I heard Dixons will carry wifi only next July.

http://dixons.nl/artikel/7128349c1679/Samsung_Tab_10.1_inch_tablet_Wifi_(P7510)

Not sure though, I might take the plunge as well :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
Any news on the 32GB version though. That's what I want but if Europe is getting it in July then I may as well wait.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy S II
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinky73:
Obviously theres a problem with guarantee on IO version as it doesn't carry international guarantee but that's the risk you take playing this sort of game... as far as I'm concerned the IO model is unlocked for developer use so would be fairly hard to guarantee anyway... correct me if I'm wrong but surely most of us on this forum are interested in " tinkering" with these things anyway... rooting, custom roms, upgrading bootloaders etc.... doesn't do much for the guarantee anyway, all that sort of stuff ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinky73:
Beg to differ...TVA is payable @ 20% on electronics imported under MFN ( most favored nation) regulation... don't confuse duties with tva mon ami.... as France has no reciprocal with US if they decide your import has a certain value and you haven't paid tva in France they are entitled to ask for it... same for importing into UK from the states i believe... something called the EU (fast crumbling apparently) allows fairly free trade between member States but not with the US
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
In the UK we pay the VAT at 20% but no import duty.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy S II
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinky73:
Exactly hshah, that's the point I'm trying to make... if the origin is outside the EU then no VAT has been paid to the thieving ba****ds so they very often ask for it to be paid on declared value of item... so, no import duty, but you may well still have to pay... seems like a form of duty by another name....:rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UKseagull:
Are you talking about importing from the EU or the USA?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
From the USA. It still works out cheaper than a UK order anyway, lol.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
Yeah thats what I was meaning. Its 18.6% in case you were interested, and because of european pricing, including delivery etc, it still works out cheaper.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
Have a look at this thread I made earlier:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1133345
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
bundlebox just informed me that they've received my tab. Its about to be sent by them in 48mins to France. Boom.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hshah:
What was the total cost for you?

Sent from Samsung Galaxy S II
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoekie:
When I went further just before clicking on preorder of the Tab at Dixons(see link above), delivery date was stated for July 18th.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freonix:
Anyone has updates regarding importing their tabs?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kauka187:
618 euros all up for the 32gb
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snoopstah:
Mine's arriving tomorrow.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snoopstah:
Now arrived, on initial charge.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felix-loesch:
How much did you pay and which mailforwarder did you use?

Did you use 1-day shipping on amazon.com?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snoopstah:
Paid $499 + $17.98 next-day shipping from Amazon (16GB). Got the $17.98 refunded as it got sent out a day after most people's, despite me ordering within an hour of it appearing for pre-order on the Amazon site. Was dispatched on Friday 17th via UPS.

Shipping forwarder I used was shipito.com in California. Arrived with them on Monday 20th at around 1.30pm (their time). First time of using them but extremely impressed. Flat handling fee of $8.50, and I paid an extra $1 for them to take photos of the contents of the Amazon box (always a chance Amazon packed the wrong thing by mistake!)

Sent by Fedex International Priority at a cost of $45 on Tuesday morning, and arrived here this morning.

Total costs so far = $499.99 + $8.50 + $1 + $45 = $554.49 (GBP £346 approx) but expecting to get a letter from Fedex in the next week asking for customs charges on top, probably around £75.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
Nice, congratulations!

How do you sort the charger plug?

Do you use plug converter from US to UK? Or you use charger from Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" UK?

:)