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[Galaxy S II General] daivik:
Sense is great, for a 1st-timer, IMO. Because it's slowly eating away at the "common consumer's" automatic "will" to buy an iPhone. It provides something attractive, simple and different.

But after coming from my Desire, to TouchWiz...it just looks so much more "sleek". The use or rectangles and square, rather than circles or rounded rectangles really makes the UI unbelievable smooth. I've never had any issues with FPS.

Plus, unlike the Desire, where they have to remove stuff to make Gingerbread and Sense fit on, I know, my GSII will still have enough space, this time next year. :)
[Galaxy S II General] puremind:
In my mind, the only Sense feature I am missing is the dialer. The Samsung dialer is nice, but it makes you tap 3 times as often just to call someone!

First off, the Sense dialer has both T9, contacts and log in a single view.

Then, when you click on on any name (either T9 result, contacts or log), Sense allows you to call immediately.

In the TouchWiz dialer, it is 2 taps from the contacts view, and 2 taps from the logs view and 2 taps from the T9 view once the desired name has popped up, or even 3 taps if the name is not top of the recognition list or 4 taps if you want to dial a non default number! This is ridiculous!

I like the layout of the Samsung dialer, but it has very poor usability!

Having said that, that's the only Sense feature I am missing. launcher, Clock, Whether, Messenging, email, I think Samsung does as good if not better (e.g. Hotmail ActyveSynch supported on Samsung Email app).

oh, yes just one thing I like better on Sense: adding applications requires only 2 tap on Sense but it requires 4 taps in TouchWiz (long-press+shortcuts+applications+desired application). This drives me mad, since I keep flashing new roms and it is easy to get confused between shortcots, widgets, apps, etc...
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
I use go dialer because of this
[Galaxy S II General] :
Maybe, just maybe HTC overdid the Sense 3. I can understand when someone says it's bit obtrusive. It looks good, definitely yes. But this may cause certain resource contention and not as sleek.
[Galaxy S II General] daivik:
Agreed. They kinda had to though...otherwise the Sensation would have been nothing special. Compared to other equal class phones, it's merely average. It simply has design/build (for some, personally I don't like it) and Sense 3.0.

The lock screen is rather epic though....but then I discovered, GOTO lock screen, Widget Locker, amongst many others :p
[Galaxy S II General] MaBlo:
You can add apps directly from the app drawer, just hold the app you like to add and you can put it on the homescreen.
[Galaxy S II General] jay_993:
Therefore the best is...

MIUI ROM + TW4 launcher :)

Btw there is a hacked tw4 which works on miui. Im using it now on sgs.

Oh btw, sense 2.1 with elegant blues theme or the honeycomb theme was the best and still is. As with resource thing, if you make the sense rom barebone, its alright actually.
[Galaxy S II General] ph00ny:
I ran vanilla android launcher on my Captivate and i would run vanilla on my SGS II

With that said, i prefer the snappier TW4 over Sense 3.0 on sensation

I played around with sensation at the tmo store and the choppiness is really noticeable.

Some folks are saying it's a feature but there is a difference between slow or forced scroll method and choppiness

I'm currently running LP on my SGS II and it's just as snappy as the TW4
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
I say use it instead of toying with in a store then you'll see it's a feature or use a different launcher it even backport rosie 2.0
[Galaxy S II General] stoney73:
Stop being such a fanboi. Im happy there is no sense bloat. I usually prefer adw/lpp, but with the sgs2 , i quite like touchwiz. Big improvement on their previous offering. Sense is just too invasive for me. Why would you want to slow your phone down with sense bloat?
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
double post
[Galaxy S II General] Neo3D:
CORRECTION: Engadget isn't a bunch of random idiots on the internet, they are a bunch of Apple ass kissing ****tards! They are anti anything that doesn't have a fruit logo on it. :cool:
[Galaxy S II General] cervantesjc:
In my opinion I like miui alot better, it has the functionality of touchwiz just saying.
[Galaxy S II General] Robboftw:
I think Sense 3.0 is absolutely miles ahead of TW4. Yes it uses more memory, but that's because it is providing a far superior experience.

There is a reason that nearly everyone on here with a Galaxy S II has a custom launcher/lock screen and all custom apps for messaging/contacts/dialer, etc.

You just don't need those on the Sensation, it all looks superb.
[Galaxy S II General] Nuhvok:
You know that you can slide your finger left and right on a contact/log item? Slide left for a message, slide right for a call :).
[Galaxy S II General] daivik:
Hardly miles ahead. It is far more.integrated, but some people don't want that. For my basic integration needs (mainly fb photos for the people i'm testing) touchwiz does that just fine.

And nearly ever GSII user has alternative core apps....please don't make random accusations, it's just not true.

If you ask some of the Sensation users, they'll even tell out themselves that they think Sense is a resource hog and their experience is not what they should very getting on a dual core phone.

What's the point for having the "far superior experience" (in your words) IF the FPS/animations are reduced to a level where they appear to lag. Hardly looks "superb".

Please don't get me wrong, Sense 3 and the Sensation are great! But it's simply not as clear-cut as Sense is far superior in every single way, in comparison to TouchWiz.
[Galaxy S II General] XDA mark:
Hahaha I know a lot of people say that. They should have given the Sensation an 8,5 or 9, and the EVO 3D at least an 8. Its often BS what that website says.
[Galaxy S II General] Robboftw:
If you don't like Sense, you shouldn't buy a Sensation to begin with as the Galaxy S II is the better choice for most things, but not at all.

Also, there isn't much 'lag', a bit of micro-stutter here and there but nothing really significant.
[Galaxy S II General] ph00ny:
They definitely have consistency issue since phones are reviewed by different reviewers but if you listen to their podcast, they actually explain their position quite well.
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Don't you get tired of bouncing between the SGS2 and Sensation forums antagonizing people? You have both phones, terrific. Your opinion is solely yours and declarative statements like your "far superior" comment come off as biased and self-serving. Superior to what audience? And when you say "everyone on here" who are you speaking for? Certainly not me. I used a Sensation for a day in the UK on Vodafone. I've never posted anything positive or negative about the Sensation because frankly, since I don't own it, I really don't care. And rather than piss people off with off-handed comments based on limited exposure to the phone and invoking my personal biases I simply say nothing. I can say this, some of the evaluative comments you've made about the Sensation certainly don't jive with my 12 hour experience. Enjoy your phones.
[Galaxy S II General] Robboftw:
It's not my fault you get upset because someone says something you don't agree with. If you don't like my OPINIONS, too bad.
[Galaxy S II General] enoch861:
I honestly think it's pointless to create a thread based on personal opinion. That does nothing but invoke wars, hatred and the such.

If you love Sense 3.0 awesome. If you love TouchWiz 4.0 awesome. They are both awesome sets of launchers/programs/widgets on top of android, but they also have there strengths and weaknesses.

I think we should spend more time praising there strengths and discussing there weaknesses than saying that one is purely better than the other.

Just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy S II General] Robboftw:
Absolutely agree :)
[Galaxy S II General] ph00ny:
Well that's the thing

this is android and customization is its main feature
[Galaxy S II General] Ibb1982:
My opinion

Coming from a HD2 flashed Coredroid ROM (Froyo Sense). I was a big fan of Sense, and must say it is better in terms of usability overall than Touchwiz 4.0.

I haven't used the new Sense so can't comment on that.

The above being said, after alot of comparing and the usual ummming and ahhhing about whether to stay with HTC or go for the SGS2, I chose the SGS2.

I have to admit that Touchwiz is a very nice UI, and after an hour or so playing with it, you get used it. I like it!

For the moment I'm still inclined to say Sense is my favourite UI, but that doesn't mean I don't like Touchwiz, in fact I love it :D

Just my 2 sense, I think its just a case of preference, and not about proving something like people who use Sense are noobs etc. Its what you like at the end of the day, eg some guys would say they are an "Ass man" other "legs man" :p

Both UIs are great.
[Galaxy S II General] LesserCure:
I love the app drawer of TouchWiz, and it's very polished. That's why I use it.
[Galaxy S II General] Chronicles404:
Thats your opinion.

Coming from webOS and iOS I find sense ugly, touchwiz looks far better by a mile.
[Galaxy S II General] CandyAndy:
This is a stupid thread. Just somebody's personal opinion without anything really valid.

I used to have a HTC phone and I used Go Launcher with that cause got tired of Sense after 2 months.

I have had SGS2 now for one month and already went for Go Launcher cause got tired of TW after 3 weeks.
[Galaxy S II General] puremind:
I use that in the messenging app, but I didn't realise it worked in the dialer.

That still leaves the issue of different tabs for logs, contacts and T9 prediction. In the Sense dialer you don't need to tap, so that's additional time saved...
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
Im having erratic headset issues. when i have my headset plugged in and trying to listen to music in any music player program, my phone randomly starts making phone calls, it hangs up by itself and my phone makes all types of crazy beeping noises. also while headset plugged in it randomly opens up another music player, it will play for a few seconds then cut back on and back off and back on so ill have two different music players going at the same time. Its not the settings inside of either music player causing this! ie resume music when headset plugged in or vice versa... Does anyone have any idea why this happens. i have a lot of music on my sd card and need to get my headset working properly.
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
any help? bump
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
don't know what would cause that but maybe a hard reset will fix it?
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
thanks ill give it a try
[HTC Sensation] mortal300:
I know people complaining of that too. THey plug in to listen to music and put phone in their pocket and all kinds of crazy sh*t happens. The head jack is like super loose and buggy or somethinn!
[HTC Sensation] jahmezis45:
Did anyone talk of a fix or anything?
[HTC Sensation] guywithcable:
I'm having the same problem. My headset doesn't respond while the phone is on, but as soon as I turn it off (standby), it starts calling the last person I called and stopping/starting music.

PS: I can't wait till this phone is unlocked so we can get some roms on it and actually use it to its potential.
[HTC Sensation] Lilburd:
Double pressing the call/play button on the headset will call the last person in your call list, so maybe that is sticking somehow. Maybe see if another stock sensation headset works.
[HTC Sensation] guywithcable:
At first I thought it was sticking, but then why would it not work when the screen is on? As soon as I turn the screen off is when it starts freaking out.
[HTC Sensation] Lilburd:
I've also just noticed that there seem to be two different headset modes; if you don't push the jack all the way in, the icon in the task bar will only show headphones and the call button will not work, but if you push it all the way in, it shows a full headset with a microphone and the call button will work. I'm wondering if maybe you're jack placed somewhere between these two points.
[HTC Sensation] guywithcable:
It's the full headset icon.

Right now I'm uninstalling apps that I've recently installed/updated. Maybe it's a compatibility problem with an app.
[HTC Sensation] guywithcable:
It seems the problem is just ****ty manufacturing. Same problem with multiple headsets. Even when screen is on. It happens when the jack is bumped/twisted/moved/breathed on too hard.
[HTC Sensation] Lilburd:
Sucks. Contact HTC and get a replacement headset.
[HTC Sensation] guywithcable:
Fixed, kind of.

If your headset does this, try these steps to fix it:

1. Cut a small strip of clear packing tape.

2. Wrap the strip around the rubber part of the connector on the headphones. The tape should cover a few millimeters of the rubber part and extend out beyond the metal connector. It shouldn't touch the metal part, but surround it.

3. With an x-acto knife or box cutter cut the tape, leaving a couple millimeters extending out beyond the rubber part of the connector.

4. Fold the tape inward toward the metal connector. It should just reach the metal cylinder, without covering it. If it does cover it a little, that's fine. Just don't let it cover too much metal.

5. Wipe off any adhesive that may have gotten on the connector before you plug it in.

6. Plug it in, and hope for the best.

I've attached a pic of what it should look like after. Tell me if it works for you.
[HTC Sensation] jdelforge5684:
I had a similar issue, unplugging the replugging usually fixes it for me. Bit of a hassle, but oh well.

Sent from my HTC Sexiness.
[HTC Sensation] SIKKBOY:
its junk mine will display microphone when it wants rarely, always shows just headset what rubbish...For the money this **** should work...now i gotta spend more dough on a BT stereo adapter and drain my already worthless battery..three cheers:eek:
[HTC Sensation] tnimoruen:
Hi there. I had the same issue with the htc headset and the one from my vibrant. Please, verify the hole in the back cover where the headset jack is supposed to be connected. Do you see a shiny bit around the circular edge (exposed aluminium)? If so, call htc so they can replace you back cover for one that doesn't have the aluminium from the back cover exposed there. When the metal from the jack gets in contact with the metal from the back cover it creates a short circuit and you get erratic behavior. A temporary fix I used was to put a small piece of tape to cover the exposed aluminium and then plugged in the jack. It worked perfectly. Hope this is helpful. Good luck, people!
[HTC Sensation] guywithcable:
I wonder if some clear nail polish on it would solve the issue...

The tape on the connector works pretty well. It's only freaked out once since I taped it.
[HTC Sensation] tnimoruen:
I was thinking of the same thing (nail polish). But don't sweat it. Call htc and ask for a replacement. It won't take you more than 15 minutes and all they ask for is the S/N. It will take only like 3 or 4 days to arrive. Btw, glad I could help :)
[HTC Sensation] _archaniel:
I just realized I have same issues. Though I am using iPhone headset, so can't say for sure. But it's annoying. Doublepress = next track + dial last called number :(
[HTC Sensation] iranwz:
I have same problam, when i put my phone in my pocket it dials last number.

its very annoying x-(
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Mixy:
Hi! I wanted to buy a gamepad for playing emulated games on my s2, anyone have experience with an OK one?

I did a search and I know it has been brought up before, but from what i skimmed I couldn't find a good match.

Thanks
[Galaxy S II Accessories] Paddiii:
I'm searching for the same :-(
[Galaxy S II Accessories] NZtechfreak:
Either the expensive iControlPad, or the Phonejoy will work. I have a phonejoy, works well (you can see a demoof it and MHL in my yiutube channel).
[Galaxy S II Accessories] mca1490:
looking for any control pad too!!
[Galaxy S II Accessories] NZtechfreak:
So read my post?

I mean c'mon guys, the OP could have found the information by searching and then doing a few minutes reading, and then you could have just read my post.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] tids2k:
post ur youtube channel link http://www.youtube.com/user/NZtechfreak#p/a/u/2/p8y5Z_Xc7fI
[Galaxy S II Accessories] sckc23:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bmtulP9Vlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oir-3FSG-5A

Thanks for the vid. just wondering does the one you used on galaxy tab work with galaxy s2 as well?
[Galaxy S II Accessories] NZtechfreak:
Sadly no, none of the WiiMotes works because Samsung use their own bluetooth stack and not the stock one.
[Galaxy S II Accessories] sckc23:
Thank you for the tip. will see if i can grab the phonejoy when i get back to hong kong=)
[Galaxy S II Accessories] artesea:
The ZeeMote works ok with older emulators, but with 4 buttons and and one stick you'll find you are missing features for the N64 roms.

As it's old they are going cheap on Amazon, £5.50 for mine last week.

If you do get one you'll want Bluez IME to manage the pairing.
[Thunderbolt General] Rearless:
Has anyone had their microphone quit working on the latest Cyanogen Mod 7 (R6)?

Everything has been great with this ROM, 3G 4G handoff, quick charging, USB storage all work well. I just had my microphone quit working this AM during a phone call. I rebooted and all is well but I wanted to see if anyone else has had this issue.

(BTW I wiped phone, cache, dalvik cache before installing and I ran a fix permissions after I had all of my apps reinstalled.)
[Thunderbolt General] kykyth:
Have you had any more issues since the wipe?

My Thunderbolt started doing the same thing ever since I flashed on Cyanogen Mod7. Have you had anymore issues with this happening since you reflashed Cyanogen Mod?
[Thunderbolt General] herooftimeloz:
Similar thing happened to me, but only when using Skype.
[HTC Sensation] immunityx:
As the topic says how much free memory are you guys seeing on a fresh reboot?
[HTC Sensation] matistight:
You have to be specific. In running services I got ~200mb, while in task manager built into the phone I got ~150mb. They calculate dumb and hid the really usage. Because you free it up but as soon as you lock the screen it uses the memory again.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mightymike889:
Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!

Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?

-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?

But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?

And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8

Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mightymike889:
#1 what is AOSP lol

#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..

#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joker Fuel:
Don't forget miui, used to hate the ios_esk ui, but there is alot of customizability without having to go through adw or lp. Super smooth super fast. You can change everything from boot ani to fonts/custom lock screen in their there manager.

Use to be a big aosp user, but got a little plain and boring. If I was still on my mt3g I would be using aosp, but with our hardware we can afford a little more eye candy and convenience without performance sacrifice.

I usually rock between evil's vf3 and royal miui. Both get about 2 days of battery life with absolutely no lag
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joker Fuel:
AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.

Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.

Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,

You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
The thing is you can replicate the UIs of other phones but you never never perfectly mimic the functionality gained from a specific UI, you cant get certain MIUI features in CM, or get all the integration of Sense into others rom. You can also make you phone look like a Droid, Sony, LG, Sammy, etc... I like MIUI now since it seems to be much quicker than other roms, I've used android since like late 09, and I must say MIUI is so different even though it's android at the core.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mightymike889:
Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no

Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Coppo:
CM straight from their site

Someone correct me if i'm wrong on any of this

Cm was developed to work on most android phones. Most of the AOSP roms that you see in the glacier development section are based off of CM but customized to work better for our phone.

Now looking at other roms for instance take Royal Ginger.

So it came from CM, lets look at the 2.0 channel log to see exactly what the Developer did to it and then after trying CM if the changes look better it may be worth trying

After using CM for a while this may look good so read all the comments to see if anyone was having issues and whether they liked it, was it a battery hog to slow to fast etc. Any new rom will have some minor bugs but if all the new pro's outweigh the couple cons try it.

I also saw that it was on version 2.1, so I read that channel log (I won't post here) to see what fixes or changes were made. Maybe a new theme, kernal, some new app's.

It becomes fun, get involved, learn as you go try new stuff and see what works for you. Always ask if you have a question, everyone around here is really helpful.

I just used Royal Ginger as an example to show you the difference between CM and another AOSP rom that is based of CM

Edit: Also look at the pictures that they add, most everything can be changed but a rom's pics may just look really cool that you just have to try it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joker Fuel:
Bottom line, try it all and settle with the one you like. It'll keep you busy and entertained for months
[Defy Android Development] ovidiuval:
i try to install a new rom via rsd but my defy stuck on bootlogo.i was unable to get in recovery mode so i try another rom.after that defy don't want to start.need help
[Defy Android Development] dumrul:
Try to flash bootloader or full sbf it helped me ;-)

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