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[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
Dude..

what the hell ?!

i dont want to be rude.

but what the hell are u saying ?

ofcourse u can convert the movie, and i dont need a god damn guide 4 it; u can even convert this into uncompressed avi files if u want, but that is not the point.

the point is that this is a capable machine that can play 8gb mkv files but cant because it does not have codecs.

so screw converting ...

u go convert these king of files if u have time.
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Windows can't play them without the codecs, either. Nor can OSX or even Linux.

Instead of pissing and moaning about it, why don't you do something constructive like write the codecs yourself?

Oh, and before you go off and claim that Acer or Google should write them, remember this. Micosoft didn't write the codecs for Windows, nor did Apple or Linus write them for their respective OS's.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
ok dude ...

this of this this way ..

would microsoft sell any windows os if the os did not have any codecs for playing movies?(even if they did not make them) ?

ofcourse not.

its just ridiculous to have a f..ing beast in ur hands but no codecs.
[Acer Iconia A500] Flussen:
Try Dice Player ;) it is capable of playing 720p (sometimes 1080p too) in hw decoding mode.
[Acer Iconia A500] themono:
You don't get it, do you? Your A500 will play AC3. It does not support hardware decoding AC3. Nor does windows on all hardware I might add.

The issue is you are trying to play a video that requires hardware decoding with audio that requires software decoding. Whereas its one or the other at the moment.

If you downscale the video to the point where your tablet can handle it in software, then it will play it with the AC3 audio. Or you can transcode the audio and keep the video stream the same so it can handle it all in hardware. You're asking it to do two things at once then complaining when it can't.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
1) Format your computer.

2) Do a completely fresh install of Windows.

3) Do not install VLC or such.

4) Try playing .MKV with Windows Media Player.

5) Try playing QuickTime with Windows Media Player.

6) Realize what an ass argument you made and proceed to facepalm.
[Acer Iconia A500] Marcher:
Nice suggestion this Diceplayer ... Indeed, the best I tested so far ... supports AC3 & mkv & subs ... A pity I can buy it for the moment (located in Belgium), Market doesn't offer it (yet) for purchase. Would be ~ € 3 well invested ...

Marcher
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
u make me laugh "3) Do not install VLC or such."

:)

who said the drivers must be in the os at the beggining ?!

u really dont get it do ya ?

codecs for mac/linux/windows exist ... made or not by the microsoft/apple/etc

codecs for honeycomb dont exist ...

the fact that the other codecs (window, etc) are not made by microsoft/etc is not the point.
[Acer Iconia A500] themono:
Did you read my post? This is exactly the situation on Android. They do exist and you're ignoring that they do.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
You are contradicting yourself.

As for "no codecs existing for Honeycomb"... well, what is e.g. "MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3" at https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil.armv7_vfpv3&feature=search_result then? It's FFMpeg compiled for ARM architechture, runs on Honeycomb, and I'd say it very well DOES qualify as a codec package..

So what was your point again?
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
You're either monumentally thick, or a troll.

Codecs exist for ALL OS's, but they are NOT installed by default, as a part of that OS. You must either install them yourself, install an app that installs them, install an app with them built in, or install an OS distro that has them added by a third party, just like ALL OS's.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
im really sorry to say this.

but u really are ignorant.

where the hell did i say that the codecs should be built in ?

are u out of ur freekin mind ?!

where the f did i say that they should be in the OS ?

i was talking about the freekin fact that codecs DO NOT EXIST ANYWHERE !!!!!!!

they are not in the os and nowhere to be seen elsewhere.

the only difference between any other os and this one is that codecs exist in some shape or form.

wtf is ur problem !?
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
People like you are. You've already been told that some codecs DO exist. If they don't suit your requirements, write some that do or transcode your video.
[Acer Iconia A500] fincan:
I have just tried the Dice Player Trial, and can confirm that it works fine with my 720p mkv files. Seems like there is a problem with their full paid version at the moment, you cannot install it in the US but their app page says the issue will be resolved in the next couple days. Alternatively you can use Market Enabler app to change your market region I guess.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
some people just are sad ...

anyway ..

its really dumb to have a 450$ unit on the market with no possibilities to play the one of the most popular movie container ..

sad ...
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
And you're dumb. You've been told several times now that codecs DO exist to play these files.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
For "not wanting to be rude" you sure did a damn fine job.

Will not make the mistake of trying to help you out again.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
ok dude..

i have an 4.1gb mkv file.

can i play it with more than 20 fps with sound on my acer iconia ?

and if so, how ?

can u supply instructions ?
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
That's not even nearly enough details. What codecs are in use? H.264 for video, probably, but is it high-profile or baseline-profile? What audio codec?

It completely depends on how high resolution video it is and what codecs are in use.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Lmao that is not nearly enough information for anyone to help you.
[Acer Iconia A500] panda.bear:
The a500 has the same hardware and practically the same software as 90% of the mainstream hc tabs availabeb
[Acer Iconia A500] Alejandrissimo:
use galaxy tab based rom
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
And right there is your problem: the audio is in AC3. If you want to play AC3 you need to play the video in software, and the tablet is simply not fast enough to do that.

Blaming the tablet and yelling how the system doesn't have codecs is incorrect, because if there were no codecs you wouldn't see anything at all, not even choppy playback. And then in addition to calling other people names here made you just look like an arrogant little prick, though you most likely ARE that IRL, too.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
whatever man .. i can see that u can help urself with these kind of remarks.

anyway.

i saw that i had no sound.

but why does the movie work (video that is) and not the sound ?

what is with AC3 ?

why do mp4 files work and mkv files(ac3 sound) dont ?

why do i need to play mkv (with ac3) in software mode to hear the sound and not mp4 files ?
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
If you took the time to read versus flame and be rude to members who are more then willing to help you, you would understand why AC3 audio is a issue.

But you felt the need to be abrasive and rude to myself and other members who would be more then happy to help you learn how to use your hardware. Good luck, learn to use search and figure it out yourself.

Your snarky replies to me, werecatf, and floatingfatman prove you are not deserving of my time, or the time of any other member here at xda who has proven time and time again to be happy to help any members who are able to treat us with respect.

Learn to play video on your a500 yourself, I have no interest in solving your tech problems for you. Perhaps another member will show some pity for you and ignore your rude comments.
[Acer Iconia A500] themono:
I already told you that earlier.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
ok dude. sorry ...

but check this out :

if first said this :

wooowww .... so u cannot play mkv files with sound because it does not have codecs ?... woooooooooooooooooow ....

and then i got an answer:

I play .720 and .1080 video formats quite often on my a500 - you need to take the time to convert them to the proper format before you expect Android to magically accept whatever video/audio codecs you decide to throw at the OS. It is a quite simple process to use free tools to convert your video files to a format that the a500 will play without any issues.

Woooooooooooow - a little reading and personal effort will convert any video to a format that your a500 will play using full hardware support. I play 720/1080 video often, both on my tablet and via HDMI out - stop expecting the world to release video/audio that is compatiable with your choice of hardware and learn to transcode video files to whatever format your device requires.

now .. im not the type of person to blab around all day for nothing (like im doing right now) , but if my answers are "snarky" what type of answer is this?

could of he said something like : "u can convert the files to the supported formats of a500 or wait for someone to develop support for it" ... simple right?

anyway .... im sorry to have been disturb y'all ..
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
You started off snarky in the first place. Snark begets snark.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
with who ? i did not address to anyone with my first post :)

..

listen ... im sorry to have ever asked anything ..

the only REAL thing is this :

u cannot play mkv files that have AC3 ...

thats it .. nothing more, or less ...

like it or not (not u , me) its a fact ... u cannot do it ..

ps: (im not reffering to software mode ofcourse)
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
That. It's clearly snarky, not specifically at anyone, but snarky nonetheless.

As for AC3 playback, 5 seconds of searching would have given you that answer before you even posted to start with. It's a known shortcoming that anyone who cared about would have known before they even bought the tablet.

Perhaps you should research your purchases before handing over the money? I did and was WELL aware of what it couldn't do before I coughed up.
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
@OP

From the specs, the H264 video is within the Iconia's capability. But the AC3 audio isn't natively supported.

A couple of options: Find a player that can play the video in hardware, and the audio in software. Reportedly, one that can is called "Diceplayer."

The second option is slightly less convenient, but pretty fast. Try this Windows-based script,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1102922

It will re-encode the audio while leaving the video alone. Audio conversion for an avg length movie takes around 5-6 mins. The end result (MP4) should be playable with the stock or any player.

You shouldn't need to re-encode the video, at least for the above movie. Many MKV (videos) do need re-encoding.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Playing AC3 on a device with only stereo-speakers is pointless anyways, though I do understand the people who just wish to be able to play whatever files they throw at the tablet without having to transcode.

I wonder however would it work if someone wrote a videoplayer that just downmixes AC3 to stereo and encodes it to LC-AAC, and THEN streams that output to the hardware decoder. It should be possible to do that in real-time on a Tegra2, it'd likely use 30% of overall CPU capacity though. OR can't the media player applications just decode AC3 in software and only supply the video stream to the hardware decoder? I honestly don't know, I haven't studied Android internals enough to know how badly the API is designed.
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
Ideally, you shouldn't need to encode AC3 to AAC. AC3 software decoding (ie using ffmpeg) should be doable w/o affecting hardware-based video playback. The reason that isn't the case is because current players aren't very good. Reportedly, Diceplayer is one of the improved ones (this is secondhand, I've no experience with it).

I think in a couple months when there are better players (and improved versions of existing ffmpeg-based ones), MKV will be supported, and so will AC3.

The main limitation will still be the Tegra 2 not being able to handle the "more stressful" H.264 encodes. But some users in the Xoom forum have reported better high-profile H264 playback with 3.2 than 3.1, so there is some hope.
[Acer Iconia A500] Marcher:
yes it does ...

Hi,

I purchased Diceplayer last Saturday and can confirm it handles AC3 nicely! All the avi's & mkv's I threw at it, played seamlessly ... I only noticed a little video-lag when playing a 720p mkv from a ntfs-formatted usb-stick (so using drive mounter). Copying the mkv to internal memory gives smooth playback!

Imho Diceplayer is well worth the ~ € 3.5 for those of us not wanting to go via transcoding ....

Marcher
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
nice to hear that.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
so i tried diffent player like mobo, rockplayer,etc but the only one that was cappable of playing my 720p mortal kombat video with sound was dice player.

the video was crisp and smooth and the sound was in sync with it, along with subtitles.

this is the only player that was able to do this.

great piece of software.
[Acer Iconia A500] fzelle:
Just a note for all that don't understand why the tegra and android lacks ac3 support out of the box:

Dolby as the owner of the intellectual property of ac3 wants money for every unit sold.

For ex. Archos sells the license for their tablets seperately.

Google expl. puts only license free codecs into their os and acer isn't really known for their multimedia abilities.
[Acer Iconia A500] go.george:
On dice player i get a black screen with any mkv that i put on it? has anyone else the same problem? I have the movie in the internal memory...
[Acer Iconia A500] juami:
Does your diceplayer is downloaded from Google Market?
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Strange issues with Diceplayer

Downloaded the demo from market.

Even after a power cycle, I get a message box reading "cannot play the file" when launching Diceplayer direct from the app menu (error right after launch, have not tried to open a file yet). If I use a file explorer and open with diceplayer I just get a black screen and a force close.

Anyone experienced similar behaviour from this app?
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
i had this problem but the movie i tried to play was 1080p ... im not sure but i think it had very high bitrate.

but 720p worked flawlessly (with subs and audio from ac3).
[Acer Iconia A500] go.george:
yes does this matter?
[Acer Iconia A500] veer01_42:
Answer already here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1210405

You have to re encode the video to another format.

Also, i played back the dark knight trailer WMVHD 1080p on my iconia using mvideoplayer with almost no stuttering. So you might want to look at wmv for what its worth.

What i know will work for sure is xvid4psp.

It can take mkv files and remux them into a mp4 container without re encoding them, (takes a couple seconds) which plays back fluidly on the iconia tab. 1080p doesn't work all the time but 720p is fantastic.

The video rendering quality of the tab is iffy at best, so where that is concerned, its kinda pointless to play hd content on it to begin with.
[Acer Iconia A500] kashinoda:
Not sure how there's been so much arguing. Enough people have provided the answer on this thread.

DicePlayer

DicePlayer

DicePlayer!!!!!

:@
[Acer Iconia A500] juami:
cracked version doesn't work at all.

It just freeze tablet.

*edit

please post your firmware version and media file information.

I can not figure out problem.
[Acer Iconia A500] KennyNair:
well. Abt all this mkv things. all tablets, including iPad2 doesn't support ac3 hardware decoding. why? simply boils down to $$$$. it needs rights, and obviously that's money. Juz as what oracle doing to google now for java rights in android. if you really look hard enough, there is only one player in ipad2 that can actually plays mkv smoothly. and that's avplayer. so it's not surprising that android cannot play either. it's just waiting for a developer to come out with one comparable to avplayer.
[Acer Iconia A500] fxandrei:
one already exists.

its called DicePlayer.

it seems to be the only player that plays the video in hw mode (smooooooth as hell) and the sound in sw mode (AC3 ).

it works perfectly
[Acer Iconia A500] KennyNair:
I cannot agree more. the equilavlent of AVPlayer is DicePlayer for Android.
[Acer Iconia A500] KennyNair:
How u actually use xvid4psp to remux?
[Acer Iconia A500] starfcker69:
From Android Market review:

DicePlayer Trial

by Herp– August 3, 2011

Using this on my Acer Iconia Honeycomb tablet. The video playback is wonderful, plays h264 mkvs beautifully. However, the subtitle rendering leaves much to be desired. While the subtitles definitely are readable (once you use the largest font size), the overpowering shadows and the lack of border/outline make them annoying to read. If the developer adds options to implement a medium-sized black subtitle outline and change the shadow depth, this would be the perfect video app for Android.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] turboblaz:
Hi my friend has these phone about half year.his problem is that every time when he download a app from market he get warning that com.android.media crashed and because that he cannot dowliad things.

EDIT:he's on stock 2.1.1 android xxjg3 I think.
[General Questions and Answers] Lencias:
So... I'm working on a limited budget here, but I need a new cellphone at the very least (my old Cappy bricked, and from gym use had the moisture indicator activated =[) and maybe a new tablet. I do have a laptop, but I've come to realize that there are indeed "intermediate" situations where a laptop would be too cumbersome but internet/digital functionality is still needed (I used to be a cynic too, "If I have a laptop, why do I need a tablet?").

So the question is, as stated in the title, which of the following "options" should I go for?

1) Captivate/Inspire (midrange Android phone) + Galaxy Tab 10.1

Or

2) Samsung Galaxy S II (once it comes out on AT&T hopefully in July)

Your thoughts are appreciated, and I'll be happy to give answer more questions to give you a background on my sitch.
[General Questions and Answers] juzz86:
From personal experience, I found a good compromise in the Dell Streak 5. It's a big phone, but if you like a big screen you'll be all over it. I'd been after one for ages and have held onto it longer than almost any other device (four weeks - i know...) :)

I think the question to ask yourself is 'what am I going to get the most use out of?' Do you skimp a bit on the phone for a tablet's sake, or do you go the whole hog with the phone and forget the tablet?

Let me know what you decide, I'd love to hear your thoughts!
[General Questions and Answers] aaa:
I would get the Galaxy SII instead of the other combination.

Reasons:

1. You can do and have basically almost everything a tablet does/has, beside the bigger screen.

2. You can have one internet contract if you have the Galaxy SII, no need for 2 nor 3 nor more. (if you have a smartphone and a tablet, you will be needing one contract for the smartphone and one for the tablet, 2 contracts in total...means...more expensive upkeep)

3. A smartphone is easier to carry around than a tablet.
[General Questions and Answers] juzz86:
Not necessarily. I have a single data plan on my smartphone. WiFi tethering, available on almost all newer smartphones these days (especially Android) allows you to share a data connection between several devices. No separate contracts, and if you're using a HTC smartphone it's as easy as connecting to a new WiFi network :)

Your other points are good though. A phone is far more portable, and as they both run Android functionality will be almost the same. It's the usability that changes :)
[General Questions and Answers] aaa:
I have also a flat rate internet contract which allows me to theter....but....

Thetering? You have get a BIGGER battery for that, if you plan to use it often.

Battery live is the biggest problem if you use an Android smartphone as an internet hot spot.

I tried it several times but only under immergency situation.
[General Questions and Answers] juzz86:
This is true! I didn't really see that big of a difference though.

I was using an HTC Incredible S, tethering to my desktop (without charging). It definitely drained quicker, but I got three hours out of it and the battery only dropped 10%.

I agree that you wouldn't want to do it all day though. But it will save you from a second data contract and all the cost :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] altsyst:
Hi,

I've just bought an eee pad transformer with an azerty *dock* keyboard but i'm really disappointed by the dock. The problem is that I don't know if it is my problem or a problem from the keyboard... I'm a quick typer (around 60 words per minute), and have used a lot of keyboard, but never a chiclet one.

When I'm typing on the eee pad keyboard, it seems that i have to type quite hard on the key to register my hit. When I hit not in the center of the key, but let's say in the side of the key, it doesn't work well. Anyway, when I'm typing as usual, into Polaris office, it doesn't work very well... But when I hit hard on a key, no problem it's working... But I don't find the keyboard really sensitive. Are you all accustomated to this kind of keyboard ? Or is it my keyboard which has a problem ?

I tried with a terminal emulator and the problem is the same. I've even tried the same chiclet keyboard on a asus eeepc (the shell one), which looks like the eeepad dock keyboard (it's difficult to test an eeepad in France - shops are out of stock, so i took a shot with something which has a similar keyboard) and the eeepc shell keyboard is far more reponsive than the eeepad dock keyboard...

So for quick typing, how do you find your own keyboard ? I confess that I'm probably going to return the product, the quality of the keyboard is really an issue for me...

Thanks for reading me !
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
I'm able to type at probably 90% of my usual 80wpm clip with standard, full-size keyboards. So, I'm pretty happy with the TF's keyboard dock.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] francis1987:
Dosnt the Keyboard attachment have USB? can you plug in another keyboard in to the keyboard o_0 !?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] magicpork:
I'm confused... are you using the TF keyboard dock? but how did you connect that to an asus EEE PC?

if not, you are connecting a second USB keyboard to the TF keyboard dock itself? can I ask why?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] altsyst:
Sorry if my message was confusing !

I'm using an eee pad transformer TF101 with an AZERTY dock keyboard. And this keyboard is not really responsive... Since in France it's really difficult to find a model to test the eeepad in a shop, I tried the keyboard of an asus eeepc shell which seems to be very similar to the eeepad dock keyboard. And I find the eeepc shell keyboard much more responsive than the dock keyboard. It's really a problem for me as you might imagine. And i'm not connecting another usb keyboard, i've just bought the eee pad last week and find the keyboard not really good ! So I would like to know how other eeepad owner deal with the keyboard, is it easy to type or have you some difficulties on it ? For instance, when I'm typing gently and fast on the keyboard, it really does not respond like a usual laptop keyboard !

You can maybe make the experience to type a key on the side, very gently, until the key is pressed, and see that nothing appears on the screen. So it seems that when the finger types with a certain angle, which i do when I'm fast typing, the key does not respond at all. I have to type straight on the key, to get a response. I don't know it it's normal or if it's my keyboard ?