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[Atrix 4G Accessories] turnernader:
What is a good cheap keyboard i can use with the webtop
[Atrix 4G Accessories] UnCommonGrafx:
hmm, this answer is if you mean the webdock...

I am considering getting a mouse and keyboard combo on one usb receiver. In this manner, I can have a regular keyboard and mouse to work with when school work hits me and this is what I want to use. The regular keyboard starts to get small after a bit. As well, only one usb slot is used.
[Galaxy S II General] Neo3D:
Sues them!

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/apple-samsung-executives-try-resolve-patent-dispute/2011-06-20

Apple disgusts me. Copying issues coming from a company that "WILLFULLY" steals the trademarks iPhone, iPad, etc. from other companies??? They have no room to talk about willfully copying.
[Galaxy S II General] RobinRichard:
iOS 5 has android style pull-down notification

Yeah, and actually, Apple is copying Android's notification bar for it's iOS 5 and nobody even points that out! Personally, after using both iPhone and Android (Galaxy S), I feel both are completely different and I don't think anyone "copied" the other as they give different experiences overall. One should never go just by appearance!
[Galaxy S II General] DuMaX:
Unfortunately there is only so many ways you can design a touchsceen phone, and an app screen.

Their entire claim pivots on broad, sweeping claims like their ownership of "a field of square icons with rounded corners" - it's stupid, vexatious, and anti-competative.

Their entire claim about copying the physical shape of the iPad is also based on it being a flat tablet with rounded corners. It's ridiculous.
[Galaxy S II General] aonanodad:
It's not the phone, this is Standard Operating Procedure for Apple. How many of us remember how the Apple Mac got its start? Apple stole the Graphical User Interface from Xerox. Then a few years later they sued Digital Research Corporation because their Ventura Publisher product for the PC contained a Graphica User Interface. The fun thing about this story is that Digital Research licensed their GUI... from Xerox! :eek:
[Galaxy S II General] p00kienrayray:
if you cant beat em, sue em.
[Galaxy S II General] heatfire:
"products that blatantly imitate the appearance of Apple's products to capitalize on Apple's success."

the truth is that samsung copied the interface alot cos "ppl" the great zombie masses of ppl want something they recognize.

but its true.. samsung really copied ios quite alot on the UI..

but the way handles it is un-capitalistic.. the whole idea behind the world they live in is that there are competition that will copy your stuff as closly they can if its a good solution and if it is not they will make something better or try to.

if apple dont like it they can move to north korea.. they can probebly get excusive rights to be the only phone for sale there;)
[Galaxy S II General] puremind:
Absolutely agree. The iPhone is derived from HTC Touchphones that appeared on the market 1 year earlier (also with the color white and rounded edges). The iPad is derived on Archos Pads that arrived on the market several years earlier!

As you say, this is what good companies in a capatilistic societies do: improve on competitor products or on their own products.

There was no need for samsung to shake their a*ss 3 times to sh*t straight.
[Galaxy S II General] jags_the1:
Samsung did copy there ui.. there model... lol.. Nothing was creative in their design.. why is so hard for you guys to admit it?

Its a strategy they applied which was successful and earned them millions and now they have released another one which in looks is still almost the same... and u want apple to sit tight and let samsung capitalize on their success?

Apple still has intentions to be one of the most successful phone brand and android has taken a bug chunk of their customers. It was quite understandable move from apple to sue samsung right near launch of sg2... i hope u guys get the point... if still not.... then god bless ya

You guys must be blind if u r still ignoring the facts.
[Galaxy S II General] hansonator:
When this nonsense first appeared, it was revealed that samsung had developed a ui very similar to the iphone and unveiled it almost a year before the first iphone was released. It was crude compared to what we see now on iphone and Touchwiz but it's pretty clear that samsung had it first and has made it best.
[Galaxy S II General] copponex:
Let the lolling begin:

http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Samsungvs.Apple_-550x391.jpg
[Galaxy S II General] Sp1tfire:
Let's make a poll and see how many of the Samsung owners bought the phone cause they thought it looked so much like an Iphone. If you want an Iphone you buy an Iphone, if you want a Samsung you buy a Samsung. Appled didn't invent the round shaped corner phones, nor did they invented the wheel or hot water like they might claim in the near future.
[Galaxy S II General] Gustopher:
I'm writing on behalf of Apple to insist that you cease and desist from making ludicrous claims about Apple's rights to make ludicrous claims about stuff they stole...erm...invented.

This is in itself in breach of retrospectively granted patent no 63578929, 'Patent to claim to have invented stuff (and we ain't even lying) 1895'.

The above patent is valid under Apple's patented patent system, patented by Apple Patents Inc in 4258BC.

If they stuck to saying 'well we didn't invent it but we implemented it really well, albeit in a somewhat restrictive manner', you'd have more sympathy, but this persistent reinvention of facts is just tedious.
[Galaxy S II General] Jabbypants:
Why would anyone buy a phone because it looks like the iphone and how many actually use touchwiz anyway, i got this phone as it is the best phone on the market and the best screen simple as.
[Galaxy S II General] Sp1tfire:
It's funny, on a simple google search you can find tons of chinese/korean iphone and ipad replicas that look exactly the same, but Apple can't be bothered about them. Of course, you can ignore obscure producers whose phones are manufactured in the forests by panda bears cause if you sue them and you win you get 1 cart of bamboo leaves as compensation. Why not sue a top selling company with the hope that you will get a lot of money and at the same time causing them distress and huge losses. It's all about the competition and Apple relies on less conventional ways of trying to catch up / stay on top.
[Galaxy S II General] Kur0saki:
See what Steve **** says here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
[Galaxy S II General] cmd512:
More of the same nonsense from Apple. They sued HTC a while back, see any shortages of HTC phones? :)
[Galaxy S II General] chipxtreme:
I wouldn't buy anything apple, I detest them as a company and don't see why all the iSheep like them so much. They are nowt special and ridiculously over-priced. I loved my Galaxy S but my Galaxy S2 is just SO much better. I'll probably get the Galaxy S3 after this.
[Galaxy S II General] menonino:
i think iphone should not change..apple aims to sell to brainless people and it is an affordable target.

In my opinion the right question is: what android should do to sell to brainless people?
[Galaxy S II General] diehard2222:
LOL.. that had me laughing for a good 5 minutes...
[Galaxy S II General] godutch:
Apple have just been granted a general patent for the use of touchscreens and multitouch! This is really really sick, how did they manage to steal that idea and make it their own?

http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...7,966,578.PN.&OS=PN/7,966,578&RS=PN/7,966,578
[Galaxy S II General] CandyAndy:
This is solely my personal opinion and I hope everybody has their own opinions and I don't want to change that.

Anyways, in my eyes Iphone 4 doesn't look good, it is an ugly phone. The UI is horrible and the design is just not practical.

But then on the other hand SGS 2 looks actually pretty good and Touchwiz is okeish (changed it already to better).

I don't see any resembles of Iphone in this phone. If I did I wouldn't have had bought it. Period.

Now all that is my personal opinion which I believe 100%. Maybe somebody disagrees with me and thats ok. I don't care.
[Galaxy S II General] tuhinz:
The samsung UI in the Galaxy S did somewhat resemble the iOS with the square icons and all.

However the new GSII does not. Further, the GSII has a huge 4.3" screen witha plastic textured back.

Now Apple has added the GSII to the list of specific phones they have filed the case against.

All I'm wondering is, what does it take exactly to be such a moron as to mistake the GSII or indeed even the GS to be an iPhone and buy that instead (So as to cause business loss to Apple-If it doesn't cause a financial impact, I do not see the point of the argument anyway)?

Seems Apple is concerned , as are many others, about the perceived IQ of the majority of their buyers.
[Galaxy S II General] Tsais:
DaVinci or some other long gone genius forgot to patent the rectangle and rounded corners...

I do believe my baby daughter clearly infringes on Apple's trademark with all her rounded corners, her luck is, that she's not very rectangular.

But clearly, Apple should sue Car manufacturers more often, since all cars are rectangles with rounded corners! To say that adding 4 wheels to the mix avoids infringement is just letting Audi, Ford, Toyota etc get off way too easy...

And has anyone seen the Samsung Phone that was out BEFORE the first iPhone that was rectangular, had rounded corners and only a screen with a button below?

It looked pretty much like a dinky version of the sgs2.

I think Apple is wasting their money, unless they get lucky with completely moronic/patriotic judges for every single trial and retrial.

Meanwhile, I shall go apply for a patent on gravity! Then anybody who drops something will have to pay me royalties.
[Galaxy S II General] Tsais:
Apple did not invent icons, MIT/Park researchers did

I suppose you are not aware that Samsung had a phone out (F700) that looks just like the iPhone (but with rectangular button instead of round) BEFORE the first iPhone started selling?

Will go and try to dig up the pictures, it was mentioned and linked on "The Register" among others

tuaw.com/2011/04/20/in-the-apple-samsung-lawsuit-the-android-team-has-it-wrong/

this "debunk" is particularly funny, claiming Samsung could have copied Apple's iPhone, developed it, got it to manufacturing and to market within one month of seeing Apples initial iPhone announcement, beating Apple to market with their supposed copy by several months!
[Galaxy S II General] XenonAndroid:
If you can't beat em, Sue em.! +1 :) I like it.!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II,

Rom:- Cognition S2 v1.07 by Designgears

Theme:- Eagerly waiting for Red Gingerbread by Rixta
[Galaxy S II General] tuhinz:
I'm talking resemblance. Not invention. LTR. ;)

Is the samsung phone you are looking for the F700?
[Galaxy S II General] jamiemac1977:
Regarding all this anti competative patent junk that we have been seeing climb the ranks of the press popularity in the last few years:

in short: patent what you like apple, you didn't invent anything, and i will not buy your products, nor any that pay you license monies for falsy patented garbage!

reasoning:

Icons are stacked in a cubed format ala windows ...shocker .. invention? Patentable? No ..And if granted the patent is a joke.

Touch screen interface on a mobile is a new invention compared to all the other touch devices preceding apples patent, and is worthy of being called a new product, and not a alternative application of someone elses product? Again, No ..Ridiculous!

So, from now on each os must rotate its icons 1 degree to not be "lined up" ...And as many other OS's came first, i suggest that apple move theres to a 9 degree column layout and stop copying others!! xD

It is all honestly quite ridiculous though, i suggest ignoring that company and their patents completely... and getting on with real business and life as it was before the retards appeared again (yes i remember the old mac surge in the 90's, was just as awful only with less portable filofax geeks xD)
[Galaxy S II General] Gustopher:
@jamiemac1977

I am writing on behalf of Apple to insist that you cease and desist from using your XDA Developers username, which is a clear and flagrant copy of our patented and best selling computers - apple mac, macbook, macbook air and chicken macnuggets...wait, that last one wasn't us.

Revised usernames we are prepared to accept:

jamiepc

jamievax

jamiegenericcomputer

jamiepocketcalculator

jamieabacus

jamiepenandpaper

Please see to it immediately.

Lots of love

Apple
[Galaxy S II General] Tsais:
Microsoft did a lot more to hold up HTC than Apple managed to, with their deal for Windphone7 models in trade for 'low' license fees HTC must now pay Microsoft for every copy of Android they sell.

I believe thats the reason why HTC had nothing to announce to counter sgs2 at MWC early this year. They must have been sweating blood and tears to get the Sensation done to compete with Samsung. I like HTC stuff and after the i8910 debacle, I had sworn never to buy Samsung again... but here I am with an sgs2 cause HTC's cameras are never very good and i wasn't sure if current HTC models still had bootloader lock or not.

Would you have ever guessed you'd be handing $5 to Microsoft, even when it finally makes sense in some area to get a different OS than the one from M$opoly?
[Galaxy S II General] Quarn:
If it's got a touch screen the Apple own it - Period!

www-dot-talkandroid.com/44009-could-apples-new-patent-put-them-in-control-of-every-smartphone/

“[a] computer-implemented method, for use in conjunction with a portable multifunction device with a touch screen display, [that] comprises displaying a portion of page content, including a frame displaying a portion of frame content and also including other content of the page, on the touch screen display.”

I cannot link it as I am a new poster, sorry.
[Galaxy S II General] sorrowrain:
sorry

i applied for a patent on gravity before you:)

i want to now who is the idiot that will see galaxy s2 and mistake it for an iphone:confused:

and even if he thought that it is an iphone and bought it

then why can^t he look at the box and read the big

"samsung galaxy s2"

we live in the 21 century.:eek:

update : (Apple granted patent for 'portable multifunction devices' with multitouch screens )
[Galaxy S II General] Furbious:
Christ, the patent office really need to be destroyed for issuing this kind of crap.

I mean, come on - at best, this means all browsers or book readers on a mobile device have to pay apple. At worst, you could say that content is anything which is information, and so any touch screen display has to pay apple.

Can't wait for this to get to the court, I can't see any sane judge ruling that this is enforceable.
[Galaxy S II General] diehard2222:
The patent office in the US of A is bs. ****ing retarded americans **** em.
[Galaxy S II General] :
I also thought so before I read the article from Nilay Patel (ex- engadget writer) on this. This is very SPECIFIC patent, and none of the companies would in any any be endangered by this.

http://thisismynext.com/2011/06/22/apple-granted-patent-webpage-scrolling-behaviors-media-crazy/

Read this carefully. Nothing to be worried about if I was a compititor.

For all of Apple's patents, Samsung is the 2nd highest patent holder in US (after IBM). For records, Apple is around 50th rank. Sammy has 28,700 US patents, 4,551 of which were issued in 2010. 5,933 of those patents are related to telecommunications. It would be hard to fight a patent battle for any company against Samsung.
[Galaxy S II General] agreenwood:
The daft thing is dont samsung make the iphones for apple?!?
[Galaxy S II General] agreenwood:
Check this out

http://texyt.com/iphone+manufacturer+supplier+assembler+not+apple+00113
[Galaxy S II General] Sp1tfire:
Everybody knows you can't build a smartphone from scratch using your own resources. Every big company relies on other companies that supply hardware and software for the final product.
[Galaxy S II General] daivik:
IMO, the reason for suing was not because of the similarities...but because Apple know the GS2 is the FIRST Android phone that is 1, attractive to long term iPhone users and 2, pulling people away from the grips of apple! Yes, Apple is fearful of Samsung.

LOOK AT THE FORUMS YOURSELF :) How many people ask question about "Just move over from iOS, how do it this..." and how many people have converted from being dependant on iOS, to using the GS2.

Firstly the UI:

iOS has it's homescreens are equivalent to the TW/Android App drawer. If it's a "copy" are we actually saying that anything that has a horizontal app drawer is a copy of apple?

The method in which you make a new page can be different. (Of course you can hold the app on the edges, but that's been around in homescreen customization for a long time. Making folders is also different.

There was criticise of the similarities of the clock app. IMO, they're not similar (unless you call both having a page called "stopwatch" copying! GS2 has it at the top, and it scrolls. The way to delete and create alarms are different. The backgrounds are different. The activation and deactivation is also different.

Now the physical design.

Yes, the home button is similar. But have not the WP7 phones that have a centre windows button and two other buttons either side. Does the Desire Z, not have a large square, black button on it's front at the bottom. And the Desire also has 4 buttons and a circular centre button.

What I'm trying to say is that yes the home button looks similar but the hardware button differentiates it from other Android handsets and the two touch buttons either side, distinguishes it from the iPhone. The button also has a polished bezel.

The actual shape. It is fully black and has a candy-bar form. Whoop-ti-do. People are crying over the fact that the shape is a "copy" when it's a copy of the fact it's completely black and has a candy-bar shape. Hardly grounds to say it's a "copy" of the iPhone 4. I don't see a metal rim on the sides? Or the large Samsung logo in the middle, or the subtle circular hole the iPhone 4 camera has on the back. The speaker is also the on the back where it is housed by a small bulge in the case....further differentiating it from the iPhone 4.

I'm not saying Samsung have completely original ideas, because the iPhone obviously has some influence over the design of TW 4.0 and the GS2, but Samsung certainly didn't copy it.

IMO the reason so many people are moaning is because it's the first Android that matches the iPhone, in the previous areas that Android generally couldn't go near. (eg - thinness, smoothness of the UI, ease of use)

Apple's lawsuits, whilst some are valid, have gone too far and I really do question what judges play along with apple. For example...A successful patent of capacitive multi-touch. For heaven's sake! It's pathetic. The way the mobile/tablet marking it going...patenting capacitive multi-touch to Apple is like patenting the use of metal or plastic in any future devices, made by manufacturers OTHER than Apple. It's become a necessity.
[Galaxy S II General] cheetah2k:
More likely they are racist - they obviously don't want no Korean stuff beating American Apple.... I bet Apple supply the patent office with a whole load of goodies to swing some love their way too...

i feel for Samsung. America is a real tough market to crack, especially when Jobs is in Obama's back pocket
[Galaxy S II General] daivik:
hmmm I have also heard the favouritism of Apple in the USA (but then again that is expected for patent and laws that are only valid in the US)

It's a shame. Many consumers are missing out (forget about what's better for the moment) the different experience that Android gives you. It's a whole different ball-game and it really is a shame that many people are blinded by Apple and think that's all there is. :/
[Galaxy S II General] pukemon:
apple invented computer. but al gore invented the internet first.:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] a67543210:
Oh boy, how I love your comment.if I could give you a mark, I'll give you 10/10
[Galaxy S II General] ngo8:
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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
Im trying to update to a new 2.2.2 update that bell just released for canadian users.

I download it, I press install, it reboots my phone into android recovery.

It begins to install the update, then it shows me this:

verifying current system...

assert failed: apply_patch_check ("/system/app/AccountAndSyncSettings.apk". "a bunch of numbers", "A bunch of numbers", E:Error in /cache/Blur_Version.0.37.4.MB860.BellMobility.en.CA.zip

(Status 7)

Installation Aborted.

Can anyone help? Its really frustrating not being able to update.

My phone was rooted, deodexed, and I flashed a few .zip's to it. I factory reset it before I attempted to do this update.

HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED

This is the menu I'm in when I talk about "android recovery"

However, this is not my phone. This picture is just to jog your memory if you dont know what im talking about.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neer2005:
Just reboot El phone
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
Remove my battery and reboot it? The update said it would reboot itself.

Also, what does the picture I'm describing mean?

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samcripp:
are we talking about 2.3.4 or what kind of update?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sauronith:
It means your phone is rooted and you need to do an SBF flash
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legion21:
Pretty sure that is the recovery screen. If I remember correctly if you touch above the search button it should take you into the recovery menu
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] josuetenista:
He's talking about the update from Bell that came out today. Its similar to the 4.1.83 update from At&t
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
Sorry guys its the 2.2.2 update released for bell atrices (in canada)

There is no menu unfortunately.

It looks like the bottom portion of this image, there is no menu.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Try pressing the bottom left and right corners, should bring up that screen.

Cheers!

Since it's 43MB is size, I am guessing glad root or my util should be able to preserver root using frozenfish in /osh/sbin.

Downloading it now, Blur_Version.0.37.4.MB860.BellMobility.en.CA.zip in /cache, I'll upload it to my dropbox for folks when it's done.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IrshaadH:
How can those who have flashed 2.1.1 get this update?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
You would need stock Bell firmware for an update to apply I would think. Probably not much different that what you have anyway, I'll see if I can nab the radio from it though.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
Thanks so much. That brought up the screen.

However, my update failed. I'll post the exact error or PM you if I can't figure it out for myself.

Will that update be flashable via CWM? And where can I find your dropbox.

Regards,

Mag
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
I'll post when I get it done. :)

Here you go:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23800522/Blur_Version.0.37.4.MB860.BellMobility.en.CA.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23800522/Blur_Version.0.37.4.MB860.BellMobility.en.CA.crc

/cache/recovery/command = --update_package=CACHE:Blur_Version.0.37.4.MB860.BellMobility.en.CA.zip

Frozenfish works to get root access again, in fact your su and shsu binaries stay in the system folder, all you have to do is chmod 06755 /system/bin/shsu etc.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IrshaadH:
(n00b question) Why would the radio be useful and how would I install it?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] y2whisper:
DELETE POST NFHimself is too damn fast
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Magnetox:
My error log while updating in android recovery haas been posted on my original post!

Please help! Thanks!