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[EVO 4G General] ItsLasher:
This place is actually a wealth of knowledge but it is easier to find what you want other places 9 out of 10 times just due to trolls and flamers. There will be a 50 + post thread and only 5 decent posts in the entire thread because the rest of the posts are trolls or hot linked picture to flame some one.

No one wants to wade through that garbage to find an answer so they look elsewhere.

I generally find what I want and help myself to avoid the issues that a lot of members here cause. Do away with the issues, trolls, BS and this site could be the one stop shop for hand held devices. But until then there will be mainly people registering just to gain access to a download or link.

Just my 2cents.
[EVO 4G General] Drachen808:
I am not sure what is so hard about reading though. The hero is my first phone that I even thought about modding. I got it in march of last year, opened my account here in June and if you notice, I only have 30 or 40 posts total (I think the first one wasn't until about 4 months ago). For the most part this was because any time I had a question, I just used the search function. If an xda search doesn't answer my question, and a google search doesn't answer my question, THEN I ask. I am sure that most of those here who hold the knowledge would agree that they don't have a problem with the lack of knowledge, but the lack of resourcefulness.

Trust me, i am just a peon when it comes to this stuff, I don't know much. I only wish I had the time it would take to become an expert on building apps and roms, etc. but I don't. However, even I get annoyed when I am searching for an answer in a thread and the same question is asked (and answered) 4 times in the span of 2 pages.

I agree that those responding could use a little more tact sometimes... However, plainly asking someone to read for themselves is not rude, it is teaching reliance on oneself. If more people were a little more self reliant I am sure that this place would be far more efficient (and welcoming).

I, for one, thank the dev community for keeping my Hero running, I don't have an upgrade until January so it will have to do for a while longer.

Edit: I feel a little embarassed, I am in here because my wife as an Evo and obviously I would be the one to support it... Anyway, if y'all are wondering why some Hero owning, absent-minded poster is in here acting all righteous, that would be the reason, I forgot I wasn't in the Hero forums. I still believe my post to be valid, but you may take it as you want.
[EVO 4G General] dfskevinohyeah:
They should have a dislike button and members who had only had their account for six months are able to have their comments disappear with a set number of dislikes and those who had it longer cannot have their comments blocked, my 3 cents
[EVO 4G General] hooover:
I remember when this all happened 3 years ago in the touch and diamond forums between a chef's I'll leave nameless...It ended with a damn good chef getting banned. All that started over a program that was written and another chef tweaked the "hell" out of it making it a success, but creating a world of controversial bickering...It follows all forums once they begin to blow up as The Evo did!
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I just get annoyed with seeing threads in the Dev section get overtaken with pages of 'arguments' or the like. Or complaints about devs and money or whatever trendy bull**** is happening. That's all. I'm of the type that feels the need to read more pages than not in a thread, so when I sit through 5 pages of total sh!t I almost want to slam my head through the monitor.

In terms of the General and Questions section, people posting pictures and the like are harmless, in my opinion. Most threads asking questions in the Gen / Q&A get by with little to no issue. Sometimes a thread deserves to get derailed.
[EVO 4G General] Evo4eva:
You don't have to register to even access the download link. That eliminates that theory. I do highly agree with most of the things being said here though.
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
Agreed. The smartphone boom is bringing a lot of people with no patience and no respect. They want their phones fast, and they want it done now, for free.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
This should go for noobs who post in the wrong section and creating threads before searching. 1 warning end suspension so we don't have to tolerate such noobish behavior.
[EVO 4G General] sirmx:
I find the mods to be very friendly and helpful. Someone or something you don't like, send them a PM and have it moved/deleted/etc. I've always been met with a thanks when sending in a PM to have a thread moved.

toastcfh, josefcrist, and rolfd are EVO 4G moderators.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
I've seen the ends of the internet.

This is what happens when popularity hits something. It happens to everything. This is the way of things. Even you guys complaining about it.
[EVO 4G General] atapia984:
Couldn't agree more. People are just too lazy to search. If the XDA search option does not work, use the damn Google option. It always works.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Check out the EVO 3d general, its all trolling and bashing, and a small handful of informative threads.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
The internet is coming! It's still very much alive! And evil!

I do agree, though. And complaining about it over and over, as we see happen, won't change it. I do agree that it gets tiresome seeing it in the 'important' threads though. But talking about it really doesn't change much.
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
There are a few guys that bash everything and do nothing but troll. I try to answer questions in the q&a section and stay mainly in the off topic thread.

I venture out everyonce in a while and flame the trolls here and there but not all the time.

I used to develop themes and roms back when I had my hero phone but now I mainly create for myself and release my apps in the market and make real money form what I've learned from this site. Also enrolling back in school and reading lots of Java and XML books. I started my own LLC doing this and its now my only job.

As for the fights...that's what happens when I product gets real popular and people hear about rooting. The first site Ull find in a google search of "rooting android phones" is xda. So people find the site and don't try to learn they just want to be hand fed but where the problem comes from is the whole "noob" issue. Ie posting in wrong section and getting mad when not given the answer they want.

Reading and researching helps to fix this but in this day and age no one has patience and wants others to do for them.

There are a select few who also just bash sprint and the evo because they r unhappy but r stuck. They wont be around hopfuly for to long.
[EVO 4G General] starplaya93:
XDA has always been like this, the only difference now is that (thanks to the credit XDA receives from sites like androidcentral and androidcommunity and through word of mouth) there are simply more active users.

If you look at it in terms of percentages, i'd say the percent of trolls active today in regards to total active members is the same as the percent of trolls active in 2009 (also in regards to total active members of that time period), when I first joined.

A lot of the trolling is actually done by grown men who have Napolean complexes due to the anonymity of the internet. The biggest issue is that when one person ignores a troll, another troll pops up out of nowhere and starts a flaming war with the original troll.

I'm currently active on the ASUS transformer sub and it's not nearly as bad as it is over here, but there are definitely less informative threads over there also...

*sigh* oh well. :confused:
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Blah blah TROLLS blah blah TROLLS TROLLS TROLLS

We need to stop throwing such terms around so loosely. People like Mitchelvi (or whatever the hell his name was) complaining about the 'bounty' was a troll. People complaining about, lately - Virus', and others, handling of 'off-site' content might be trollish as well. Telling someone to search, or posting a stupid picture in response to a stupid question isn't the problem. The only REAL problem is that which happens in the Dev forums. As said, most threads in Gen / Q&A are handled and posted in appropriately. So what if a silly picture follows a silly question / post?

I think some of you would claim the UPS guy is trolling you because he drops that 'slip' too quick.

I also think a lot of people make a big stink out of a whole lot of nothing. Considering most people come here for info / mods / whatever - not to hold hands and make friends. Sure, the latter can be had, but when it doesn't go down like that people get all riled up. In fact, maybe some of you have been trolled ... talking about it just might have been enough! :eek:

I'd hate to see how some of you fare on other forums. This place is relatively tame, for the most part. Honestly.
[EVO 4G General] cwbristow@cox.net:
Why not just have moderators delete troll/flame/off topic posts and consolidate multiple/same topic post to the same thread?
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
they try but id imagine its a lot of work and expect people to only do it now and then and the report to mod link is crappy it tells you to look at the list you look at the list there is no offical one for the evo forums i mean i have seen some names but not easy if you dont remember... when xda should create a group for each phone and when you send a mod request/ complaint it goes to all of them and the first one on can fix/handle it
[EVO 4G General] :
Huh? There is an official list, and it lists who to PM for help. It DOES have a line for EVO 4G. toastcfh is listed as the main contact for the forums.

At the bottom of every sub-forum, it also states who the moderators are: toastcfh, josefcrist, and rolfd.

Yes, it would be easier to click a button and 'omg report teh trollz', but alas this will have to do for now.
[EVO 4G General] ckoadiyn:
last time i looked at it there wasnt lol sorry
[EVO 4G General] misterzeno:
I agree with this thread. So much clutter in ROM threads.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Man, you promised not to talk about the whole "hand holding" incident! I swear, that has never happened before....I thought I could trust you. :mad:
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
They must know, Ricardo.

And speaking of Mitchellvi, whatever happened? Last I saw he posted something about the Echo is one of the main XDA sections, only to be called out for his past 'douchings.' Ahh, the memories.
[EVO 4G General] :
OOOOO you posted a picture! That's signs of a troll so I hear! :eek::eek::eek:
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
OMG. IT'S HAPPENING!
[EVO 4G General] im0rtalz:
It's not xda, the conclusion would be that the HTC EVO is owned by alot a jerks since it is such a popular phone. I'm sure the xda community is no where near this bad in the other phone subforums.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.............................................

I love funny pics in threads. They are the one positive thing that come from trolls/noobs, IMO.
[EVO 4G General] myn:
x2

When I developed for the HTC Vogue, Nike and Kaiser a couple of years ago, everyone was fairly technical. A very collaborative group too. We all helped each other out. Some folks I have met over in that area I still talk to today.

When I got my EVO, I was shocked at how few people couldn't even do elementary things like ADB. The ratio of devs to users was 1:10000 it seemed. Do a search in my Warm TwoPointTwo thread for "Wipe". There are at least 500 posts about folks not wiping and complaining about the experience.. Super elementary things you know?

I have been trying to unite devs and encourage collaboration since I jumped on the EVO. Honeycomb united, Incredible S and Synergy is testament to this. Don't get me wrong, I love XDA. It is absolutely the center of the Internet for Android ROMs but I just wish there were restrictions put on the folks who DON'T contribute to the developer scene. After all this is a developer forum right?

So I encourage the folks that aren't currently contributing. Volunteer your services or talent, help out in the forums. Create a mod or theme, help out and mentor with another dev. Don't bash other users. And most of all be happy you have a device that allows you todo whatever you want on it :)

</rant>

Just my 2 cents.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
I concur. Personally, I don't bash users.....I bash ABusers and guys that come in here demanding things. Like that guy last week that would open a new account every day and start several threads a day demanding that the Unrevoked team and other devs find a root method IMMEDIATELY to the recent OTA he willingly accepted on his phone. People like that deserve that wrath of the interwebz, IMO. The mods even had to create a sticky because of that one guy. It's just ridiculous.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
It's a hard thing to enforce. I think the only remedy is for more mods.
[EVO 4G General] Rvinfinite:
Here's my suggestion as a n00b:

A HUGE search button needs to take up the entire screen. If people aren't interested in searching for a topic before posting, they won't search for a search button. It's logic.

Massive search button. Dead center of screen. That way people will look up their issue and become contributing members of the forums. Or at least ask unanswered or overlooked questions.

XDA App - EVO - 2.3 unrooted. Help!
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Or even better: Only have developers open threads in the developer section and they can self mod their own threads.

A general mod can vet threads to be posted in the developer forum. The rest of the forums are the same as now.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
What a special day that was...

Why don't the happy times ever come anymore?

When will we learn to love again?
[EVO 4G General] Drachen808:
even better, if your post count or tenure is under a certain amount, then the Post new thread button takes you to the search page. LOL
[EVO 4G General] subprime:
I have to agree with a lot of what has been said so far. I have been coming here for a while but rarely ever posted because I was too busy reading. I can't tell you how much I have learned from here and I appreciate the knowledge that has been shared. I tried to help out whenever I could but most of the time I was still a few steps behind and still learning. Some of the threads in the dev section got pretty ridiculous for a few, especially the virus kingdom thread. I think he did a great job with that rom and it created a whole lot of excitement but it just got really annoying seeing the same questions over and over and over again, especially when they were answered in the first post! Seriously, if you searched that thread for "my icons don't show up on the home screen, only the text" I bet it was asked at least 100 times.

Last thing...what is the deal with people trying to rush the devs into putting out an update and then being the first ones to complain when something isnt working?

Last thing for real...is it just me or does it take some nerve to ask more than once for a dev to incorporate something into a rom that only one person wants? I think asking is fine because it might be a really good idea, but if you want to see a specific app or feature added in why not learn how to do it yourself?
[EVO 4G General] tiato:
I, too, have to agree with most of what being said in this thread. When even Myn, probably one of the nicest devs here, voiced his frustrations, then you know it's getting really bad.

It's a great dilemma XDA has to face. On one hand, it wants an open, community driven, and welcoming forum where everyone can contribute. But in doing so it also opens itself to a flood of users who think they're so entitled, so ungrateful, etc...

Having more mods would definitely help but the greater part should be on each user himself to exercise self control, be a bit nicer to others, and be grateful that he has a place to go for resources. Also, the more knowledgeable users should not be so quick to flame a noob for asking an already answered question, or a dumb question, or whatever the case. If he doesn't want to give an answer or point the user in the right direction, then he shouldn't need to make a post just to let that user know. Let someone else give a hand instead.

I've learned a great deal from XDA since joining and come here almost every day to learn new things. This is the best resource IMO.
[EVO 4G General] :
I also agree on this issue 1000%...

From my point of view, this is not only a forum thing, this is a reflection, a mirror if you like, from our current society...

Think about it for a second, I'm 31, which means that back when I was 14, I had to walk 3 miles to school, had to open my walkman to flip the cassette to the other side(!), had to use a screwdriver with a galvanized tube to unscrew most things (if you were out of wd-40, lol), I had to wash 4 cars to get a cordless phone for my grandma, etc... The point is we, Gen X-ers, are used to tech, but also to WORK for things....

Nowadays, EVERYTHING IS AUTOMATED, and kids are born into a world of NOW, WHERE EVERYTHING IS TAKEN FOR GRANTED.

Times like these I truly feel old, damn!!

I really feel sorry for my grandkids whenever they come...

Just my 2 cents...
[EVO 4G General] Drachen808:
Says the guy on the NOW network (LOL). No I hear ya.
[EVO 4G General] lil_bono:
News flash... Most people are selfish.

Present company excluded, of course...

Now where's that app that does exactly what I need??? :D
[EVO 4G General] ricocollege:
Well. I have been just reading and flashing all the great Roms here without commenting. But I have to agree, it has been a ton of whining lately. Some people should not be altering their phones, they can't handle solving problems. For me, solving problems is half the fun of it.
[EVO 4G General] cordell12:
While in the HeroC forums I would post quite a bit, trying to help and requesting help. I made a few themes for the HeroC, was involved in DATA 2 EXT for the HeroC. Then I got the all mighty Evo, came here and have started a couple threads, half were trolled to nothingness, flame wars, and they weren't even posted in the wrong section. I find it easier to keep most thoughts and questions to myself, god forbid I try to answer someones question and be wrong. I will never hear the end of it, pictures with some idiot covering his or her face with their hand. Funny? Yes it is sometimes. But is it funny to the OP who is in a short term crisis? Probably not. So go a head and flame this post to, I am sure to have said something wrong, messed up my spelling, or maybe if I searched I could have found my opinion already posted :confused:

Thanks OP for pulling covers of the BS here lately ;)
[EVO 4G General] Papa Smurf151:
I think u grammer was ok and I googled ur opinion and couldn't find it. But I do post funny pictures when somewhat appropriate but also try to answer questions as well. Not everyone here is that bad. Just a select few douches. I too did alot on the hero forum and very little here evo. I guess its manly cause I don't have the time but also cause not alot of appreciation around here so I lack the enthusiasm I had back in my hero days.
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Fresco is now available on the Android Market! Feel free to post support and feature requests requests here, and let me know what you think of my app. Please consider leaving a review on the Market as well. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] avgjoemomma:
Congratulations! Just bought it. I suck at anything art related but really love playing with this. Maybe I'll draw something cool one day:p
[Android Apps and Games] arrtoodeetoo:
Great!

I think I'll stick with the free version until we get landscape mode for tablets.
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Awesome, thanks for your support! :)
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
I'll be working on this soon. I thought it was best to get Fresco on the market sooner rather than later.
[Android Apps and Games] dirtsky:
Congrats on the realease. I just bought this last night and started working with it and I must say.....I LOVE IT!!
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Great, thanks for your support. :) I hope you enjoy the extra features that weren't in the beta.
[Android Apps and Games] mandog202:
Has a little issue of the line breaking up when i draw slowly, zoomed in around 250% or more on the xoom. Could also use a number value next to the slider for changing brush size, as well as some smoothing on the brushes to help with jagged edges. This app has some great potential, I can't stand sketchbook mobile on honeycomb, glad to see someone finally putting an alternative out with layers and a good interface, bought the pro version and will definitely be watching for updates.
[Android Apps and Games] 0mie:
We need to be able to select colors by hex value, I know that's an easy thing to add and would make things easier when selecting colors :)

You should have a sale for the app and make it .99 and see how it does in sales over the weekend...people like sales ;) hehe
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Glad you like the app! Well spotted, I can confirm the slow drawing bug on my device. I imagine there's a rounding error somewhere that's causing this when calculating the position of the brush stroke. Values for the brush configuration screen does sound like a good idea.

Are you getting jagged edges always or with certain brush sizes? Fresco includes line smoothing at the moment.
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
I was thinking about adding another tab to the color dialog screen that would contain red/blue/green sliders and a button for entering a hex value. Thanks for the advice about pricing. :)
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Does anyone reading use a Samsung Galaxy S 2? I just had a vague error report that pressing undo makes black boxes appear on the canvas which is a show stopping bug to have. Can anyone reproduce this?
[Android Apps and Games] 0mie:
Just noticed this, but why is there such a gap? Left side of the image...

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[Android Apps and Games] rosswaa:
using a dhd and seems good, when i have a little time ill put it through its paces and buy it :)
[Android Apps and Games] knightnz:
I'll try it in a minute. I'd love to be able to draw something as good as you've done in the screenshots, but I'm pretty much limited to stick figures :(

EDIT: Yep, big black box taking up a rectangle around the entire area just drawn pops up.
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
I'm not seeing a gap although there is a 1 pixel wide outline around the image.
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Oh dear. What happens if you draw several strokes in different places, undo several times and then redo everything? Can you draw something, return to the gallery while saving your image and then load your image successfully?

Edit: Do you know if you've got the Exynos 4210 "GT-i9100" or the Tegra 2 model? I know the app works fine on the Xoom's Tegra 2 so I'm wondering if it's the former that's the problem.
[Android Apps and Games] 0mie:
There is 75 pixels missing...if you open the image you will see what I mean, it's the same on my tablet...I just noticed it
[Android Apps and Games] seanw.org:
Are you running an ad-blocker? :) The Lite version has ads at the top. I can see why the black box would be confusing though.
[Android Apps and Games] 0mie:
hahahaha...that would explain it, if there was better tablet support I'd jump on the full version; until that time I will stick to this.