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[Desire General] Jasand:
I wander if HTC are regretting saying we will get the update, bet they are also struggling about what to do. Remove apps? Risk removing apps people may be using? Ask them to download the apps?

I am wandering if the update will slow up my desire and make me wish I never had the update. I'm getting a sensation in a month so I don't think ill update and ill stay where I am, I'm happy.
[Desire General] gthe:
I dont think that there would be a significant slow down in our mobile. In contrary, the official ROM i guess will be well optimize for speed. The main issue is the remaining memory for applications in an unrooted phone after the GB update (i guess it might be the same, 147 mb) and of course how many apps will be missing, and which ...

In my opinion, the critical question for this update for all the readers of the XDA forum is .... whether unrevoked or other root tools would immediately support the new ROM or not. If yes, ap2sd+ will solve the memory problem at once :)
[Desire General] kazgor:
I've held of rooting, as i believe (well hope) the ROM makes will use the official GB has a base... so once the OTA appears, i'll wait just incase UNREVOKE fails to be able to root. usually theres a rooted RUU a few hours later :)
[Desire General] glumardok:
I read that it's a trade mark issue. Google must not use "Gmail" but must use "Googlemail" in Germany. Probably the "G" as in "Germany" takes preference over "G" as in "Google" ;-)
[Desire General] DonManInBlack:
Yes there is a problem with the trade mark Gmail but I don't get why Google simply calls the app Googlemail for german users so that we can get updates for it on unrooted phones :-(
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I remember hearing issues when it first came out but I always thought it was some other issue rather than G for Germany...
[Desire General] mortenmhp:
It isn't g for germany.

It's because a german guy ran a company called g-mail, which provided some service for printing out emails. So it's a trademark dispute only relevant in germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmail#Germany
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Ah

I did wonder when googlemail and gmail addresses were valid for both... I didn't think it was originally in place for that, as I thought I got a message saying 'googlemail.com' addresses now available - sign up to transfer or something... maybe I dreamed it!

I am sure someone sent me a message before and from then on I replied to them @googlemail and they one day told me it was @gmail and after testing both worked :)
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
I was thinking they will say something by the Wednesday, and today is thursday and still nothing.
[Desire General] 08r3308:
will believe the update when i see it , cant trust them anymore , how hard is it to post updates
[Desire General] pavel54:
For HTC this week ends today or tommorow :D
[Desire General] erklat:
Market enabler usually solves issues when some apps are not available in your region. You start it once and you update, my phone runs for ten days most of the time without reboot, so I don't find it inconvenient.

Fcuk yeah, it is coming soon but I am holding my horses until the precise date is announced. Can't wait for custom kernels.

As for the date, they should only put popup that some apps will be removed. Under that 'I agree' and 'I disagree'. You don't like it, you don't need the update. Simple.

We should probably ask them is this week the next month or the month after that. :D
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Hahah word.
[Desire General] pavel54:
HTC Desire user = diamond of patient :mad:
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Htc DIDN'T said the update will come out this week.

They said starting to this week the will give info on which apps will be removed..Why you people mis-understanding and start getting false illusion in your mind?
[Desire General] pavel54:
Mhm so it was missunderstanded from me, thanks for real info :)
[Desire General] Rageypeep:
I will LOL so much when this update comes out and people find out it will be HTC Sense version 1.9 running on 2.3.3

(not saying it will, but its some thing that HTC will do) :)
[Desire General] andQlimax:
That is about sure..Htc never said that will come with new sense..Also the leaked ruu was sense 1.9

People is just illuding about sense 2.1
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Update will come in several weeks :-)
[Desire General] chichoko:
Do you have a source or you are just guessing like everyone else?

Sent from the infinity and beyond...
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Guessing and using the normal reply :-)
[Desire General] marcinb24:
I calm down and explain to yourself that the update will come out in August. It's healthier than waiting from day to day and I recommend you do so.
[Desire General] andQlimax:
If you have a branded telstra mobile phone, then yes you are right (if we can trust engadget)

For unbranded phone it should be come out 2-3 weeks before
[Desire General] mmorpheus1:
A quick update for you - we're planning to release the rollout timeframe for the new Gingerbread ROM for Desire (GSM) early next week. Thanks for your patience.

Desire and Gingerbread Update

Our engineering teams have been working hard for the past few months to find a way to bring Gingerbread to the HTC Desire without compromising the HTC Sense experience you’ve come to expect from our phones. However, we’re sorry to announce that we’ve been... forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow us both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire. We’re sincerely sorry for the disappointment that this news may bring to some of you. Update: 16.06.11 To resolve Desire's memory issue and enable the upgrade to Gingerbread, we will cut select apps from the release. Look for status updates starting next week. We apologize for any confusion. Update: 24.06.11 A quick update on this, we're planning to release the rollout timeframe for the new Gingerbread ROM for Desire (GSM) early next week. Thanks for your patience.See more

by: HTC UK

Source , HTC Facebook...
[Desire General] nickislauw:
does this mean they will give us the ROLLOUT RELEASE DATE early next week? or will they RELEASE it early next week?? confusingg:confused:
[Desire General] Jasand:
It clearly states they will release the time frame early next week.

Not the update.
[Desire General] mmmthmtskier:
"Update: 30.06.11

Hi all- We're excited to share that we are testing our build of Gingerbread for HTC Desire and will start doing quality assurance for it this week. When we have an update on availability we'll post another announcement. Thanks for your patience."
[Desire General] gery2123:
I hope this update come next week!
[Desire General] brnthlmt:
what's happen with this update?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
lost in the post...

probably coming out in several weeks
[Desire General] vnvman:
Yeah it's coming next week! I'm so excited!!

...oh wait
[Desire General] flavio.moringa:
still waiting...

wonder if it's THIS week... hoping..
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
it is now the 3rd Quarter of the year!

change the header for "THIS QUARTER" rather than THIS WEEK

(hope it comes in these days though)
[Desire General] pavel54:
I think we should see it in 21st century :D

btw. i prefer when i can get beta buggy rom than nothing, i have already like that :D

how long they can test it :confused: 1 week / 1 month / 1 year ?
[Desire General] Jasand:
Well they have made the changes and testing it over such a short period that I'm sure there will be some issues, lagging or battery draining.

I will wait and see how many users have issues then wait for an update to solve them before I update. if that ever happens.

I am happy with what I have got, if users mention the update is great and makes the phone feel snappier and perhaps better battery I will consider the update. I just don't seem to have confidence in this bodge job update to make people happy.
[Desire General] Beso:
Change topic name

UPDATE forum set topic='HTC Desire Gingerbread UPDATE THIS YEAR MAYBE' where id='GingerTread 1000'
[Desire General] nickislauw:
Haha lol nice SQL Query
[Desire General] KrewCial:
Ill update and if i dont like it, ill wait for some devs to cook a custom rom based on official desire gingerbread :)
[Desire General] erklat:
I'll pass an OTA until devs come out with their roms.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
or when you know the damage?
[Desire General] emiok:
As soon as it's there, I'll switch to it. It's not that I don't like customs roms, they just have way too many bugs.
[Desire General] erklat:
Not that I care, I'll wait for Neo to start updating the Aura. Curious that I had with far lowest bug rate with this buggered leak than with some custom roms based on official Froyo release, so I'm changing only when he comes up with something nice. I was a lil fed up with constant flashing a few months back. I want to start using my phone for a change. Of course small hacks like sense rom in Oxygen hboot are always welcome :D
[Desire General] Bilbo Fraggins:
Not been able to update since I debranded with a gold card. I have a 4 meg update I'm constantly reminded of that never works. I suppose I should also not expect this update to work too?
[Desire General] Neutrino22:
Odd File Size...

That sounds like an unusual update. If I recall correctly the previous two updates for HTC stock (2.29.405.2 and 2.29.405.5) were 168 Mb unpacked from .zip.

Are you sure you have de-branded?

Settings = About Phone = Software Information = Software Number should read either 2.29.405.2 or 2.29.405.5.

Warm regards.
[Desire General] remmyhi:
Indeed, from 405.2 to 405.5 it was about 4MB to download...
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I thought that too - dont think anyone actually figured out what changed though?
[Desire General] Neutrino22:
Yes this is correct I now recall after de-branding my desire a small update wouldn't install. It was solved by a manual install. Just locate the RUU file 2.29.405.5 plug your mobile into your PC and double-click the RUU file. This worked for me.

Warm regards.
[Desire General] Bilbo Fraggins:
I am indeed on 405.2.

Had no idea it was as simple as that to get around though. Presumably the ruu of which you speak will be on Google somewhere?
[Desire General] Neutrino22:
Bilbo Fraggins

Bilbo Fraggins: Just go to Google and type 'Shipped ROMs' it's the first result. Once on the 'Shipped ROMs' website find the RUU 2.29.405.5 according to your phone and network.

Make sure your Goldcard is installed.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
link to the ruu is on my sig (unbranded)
[Desire General] Bilbo Fraggins:
Cheers guys, will have a look when I get home!
[Desire General] Bilbo Fraggins:
Well that was easy :-)

Guess it doesn't really matter now if the 2:3 OTA works or not!

Thanks again
[Desire General] Lothaen:
no just grab the RUU after it comes out :)
[Desire General] pavel54:
Maybe they went out a dry biscuit, not a gingerbread :D
[Desire General] tma24:
Hi everyone. We have more news about our build of Gingerbread for Desire. Our testing has gone well so we will begin rolling out the update by the end of July! Thank you again for your support!

htc in facebook
[Desire General] radu_wizu:
Which is unsurprisingly a month away.
[Desire General] Jasand:
Is there any chance this whole thing was just a stunt? I won't even have my desire then.
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Sorry for my language but what an assholes, I mean keep us waiting that long to say end of july no more htc phone for me, so crappy support that HTC have unbelievable.
[Desire General] [armitage]:
Are seriously getting all worked up about, max.22 more days?

This is nothing...

You guys are joking,right?

I mean,come on...sometimes people post as if their life would depend on the next update.

It's coming, so just sit back and have a cup of tea or something.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
yes.. latest news saying the update will come by end of THIS MONTH ! (acc to phandroid via fb)
[Desire General] chompchompchimp:
Would be nice if they actually told us what they've removed or the limitations that the Gingerbread build will have. Or what those on various networks can expect (e.g. is there still space for OrangeUK customisations- and if not, will they release the update?).

The agency HTC have hired for the PR work is terrible, ha.
[Desire General] cammyhorne:
its been a long time comming, hope ts worth the wait....i have been mulling over, if i want to root or not, but not that confident in doing it though....aka sh1tbag
[Desire General] pablo_max:
Well, my desire is currently in the hands of HTC due to the seemingly normal reboot loop issue, so I am fine to wait.

It seems to me though that HTC has told us several times of the coming release. First it was something like May, then June. While in June it was, next week we roll out, then, OK we are not going to roll out at all, then, OK, we are going to anyhow next week. We are testing, so it is going to be next week. So many next weeks have come and gone yet, no updates.

Now, it is the end of this month. I guess we will see, though I do not believe HTC will deliver in this case.

This is by and large the problem with smart phones. We finally have a standard OS and we all expect to be able to install new versions of it, just as we have done for years on our PCs. The problem is that hardware is non standard. I hope over the next couple of years that manufactures will adopt specifications in the way that PCs have done. After all, our phones are more and more competing with computers.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I'd like to know what's been 'removed' too

its not like a changelog of stuff that has been tweaked or bugfixes or whatever - this is possibly apps that will not be available when you update... kinda important I would have thought.

also by the end of july they dont say that it will start or be finishing so basically it could be anytime :p
[Desire General] andQlimax:
I think, at the end, they didn't removed anything, the space was just a scuse.. But I seriously doubt that we will get the sense 2.1

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] -KJ-:
A new official releasedate ("end of July") was announced today:

CLICK
[Desire General] KrewCial:
Has been posted already...
[Desire General] Lothaen:
they should remove all junk really imo.

sense should be slimline and anything else should push to htc hub - that way you can get updates for the apps without having to push out an update (from htc).

laputa, stocks, friendstream

also it means people can remove it if they don't want it.

will still mean htc's phones will have the unique htc sense UI - with none of the overheads of junk.

they could even have it pre-installed - but removable!
[Desire General] jimlad:
There will come a time when this thread title is actually right :D i hope:eek:
[Desire General] tsekh501:
Agree. Besides some core apps that replaces stock Android ones, like the dialer and contact apps, the rest of the Sense apps should be uninstallable and re-downloadable from market or from HTC Hub.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
makes complete sense to me.

google did the same didn't they, they moved gmail, maps etc. out of the system and into the app world so they could update it separately, and easily.

also gives the user much more choice.
[Desire General] escort82:
Htc just posted that the testing ended sucessfully and that the Gingerbread update will be im the end of JULY..:))
[Desire General] andQlimax:
We already know that from last fryday

How everyone can think to post on xda a news, as new, after some days? Everyone here know every news after some minutes the news come out :D
[Desire General] Lothaen:
it's gotta be excitement!
[Desire General] geemacd:
or many people wanting to laugh at probably another poor press release from HTC, did they say if its rolling out to one phone per day?? lol
[Desire General] Lothaen:
or to pee some people off :)
[Desire General] alpha-dog:
probably a silly question but can the ROM be downloaded and installed like a custom ROM so we dont have to wait for the network carriers to mess about with it first before its released?
[Desire General] erklat:
Chances are that devs here will release their custom roms before ota gets released by your carrier.
[Desire General] Zane:
sure it is. But the fact is, that the last update was leaked about 2 weeks before the oficial OTA. And we still have nothing ... after the official succesfull testing news form HTC.

But it is only my point of view.
[Desire General] ranasrule:
root away my friend....its simple as hell
[Desire General] alpha-dog:
so it is possible then? i rather have a the stock ROM than one thats been messed about with by my carrier. im with vodafone UK i dont even know if they would touch it or just realease it as it is.
[Desire General] voodooboy3000:
I am assuming that HTC would have enabled the 720p recording and playback functions in their version of gingerbread, if so I am looking forward to that being ported over to all the other rom's
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Isn't 720p playback already supported on the desire froyo rom?
[Desire General] voodooboy3000:
Yes, but I don't think any of the gingerbread rom's have it enabled, none that I have used anyway.
[Desire General] jimlad:
you know i'm starting to think this might not happen this week :cry:

;)
[Desire General] magikmichael:
The Desire Z has got the gingerbread update today. I read it on a dutch site:

http://www.androidworld.nl/88988/verspreiding-gingerbread-voor-desire-z-begonnen/

It has Sense 2.1 so i assume that the Desire also get Sense 2.1. I hope they will release the Desire update also this week
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
I doubt that desire will get update this week, thats too soon, I mean not that I don't want him to come but it is how it is.
[Desire General] magikmichael:
Yeah you're right. But i like to be positive. Lets hope for a release soon

Sent from my toilet using my Nokia 3330
[Desire General] erklat:
AuraxTremeGinger 8.6
[Desire General] smhtc:
I have used some custom roms on gingerbread, and most of them support ad-hoc wifi. They are able to use internet using an ad-hoc wifi connection created from personal laptop to share laptop's internet with mobile.

I am wondering, if the Desire GB update will have this function? Also, did the Desire HD update to GB add this support? If yes, I believe Desire will also have it, otherwise not.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
saw that the Desire Z got updated too.

Desire Z came with Sense 2.0 already though.

Desire came with sense 1.x

Still nothing to suggest that HTC will put in Sense 2.x in the Desire, the test rom had 1.9 and it's likely it'll stay with that, I still think we'd be very lucky to get 2.x to be honest
[Desire General] therealsebo:
Removed apps

Just can't get one thing: what would be the use of removing apps, then people installing them back from the market and get the same full memory issue.

I hope that HTC gets some sense in that people will want to KEEP using the apps they used before the update.

Maybe they will just enable more of the on board apps to be moved to the SD or something...or make a lighter HTC Sense.

I guess we will see soon enough.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
the point is htc can then turn around and say 'just uninstall something then' and they are out of the issue.

with so much being stuck in the internal space then they can't say uninstall this that and the other, obviously, they then give the user the choice 'do you want google maps?' if yes, then they have to take the hit of 10mb or whatever, same with flash, 'do you want flash player support?' well then you lose 10mb again.

if average joe can't uninstall it then it's htc's problem, if they can then its yours. you just need to streamline your apps or whatever...

i think that's the point anyway.
[Desire General] chichoko:
Exactly what Lothaen said... We can then put Mr.Dalvik on the SD-Card and free up even more space ;) We just need a stable gingerbread with sense rom so we can build up on it...
[Desire General] Kermode:
Reinstall from market,eh - guess that means its junk like facebook, and not HTC's own stuff - good!
[Desire General] Kermode:
Because people won't. If they remove facebook, there is no way in hell i'm going to install that.
[Desire General] pablo_max:
Should be rolling out as we speak in Germany according to reports. Mine is still at HTC so I cannot check it.
[Desire General] k3lcior:
I think its for Desire Z.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Unfortunately we don’t have the name of the applications that will be removed from the update however you will be able to install them from Market.

I knew I saw that somewhere

they won't remove facebook I dont think because they have the nice sync to friendstream, they won't remove peep either as its htc's peep - not official twitter client from the market

they'll probably remove most of the google apps and quickoffice and flash as they take up most space

sadly not htc's junk either - stocks and a load of other bits could easily be pushed to htc hub and downloaded later - but they chose the hard way, means i'll be removing some of htc's junk like stocks again then!

the one going out now is the german desire z
[Desire General] sianzb0i:
HTC Singapore seems to have good news. but i still wonder how are they going to fit gingerbread in and that will it be as smooth as froyo.

I am on SGS 2 now and the experience i am having is not as good as expected. Sometimes i just prefer my Desire. Not sure if its the Branding and UI that i am used to or what
[Desire General] bgumble:
what do you mean?
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Did they even have news? I thought they are currently engrossed with the HTC Likes Award.
[Desire General] therealsebo:
10 days and counting :)

HTC Facebook Page: 11.07.11

Hi everyone. We have more news about our build of Gingerbread for Desire. Our testing has gone well so we will begin rolling out the update by the end of July! Thank you again for your support!
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
LOL we knew that already.
[Desire General] mhamedbj:
hi

Seriously guys forget about that update !

I'm using DEV-NULL rom since a while and it just prove that the HTC sense is just a big mistake :

1) lot of ram memory is used for the effect (the become not that responsive)

2) lot of memory storage is used for the HTC Sense

3) a lot of battery consumption is used for this

4) some native application become not that reactive (youtube for exemple)

5) native Gallery application is much much better

6) Gtalk is avalibe with video call over 3G and it work very very well over 3G

seriously ... this will be my last HTC sense phone the next one will be a nexus

HTC sense is USELESS ! try the dev null on the HTC Desire ..it will change your life

nice day !
[Desire General] nickislauw:
thats your opinion.. i like htc sense because of the good twitter and FB integration and the UI is sick
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Me two I like Sense.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
lets not talk about sense/nosense - theres other threads for that

but at least with a HTC Sense based phone you have the option to run AOSP and remove sense, but with the likes of a Nexus S - can you easily put Sense back on? :)

although i may be considering a nexus with my next phone - i'll look to see what htc offer around the same time as my next purchase too...

so when is GB coming? :)
[Desire General] Jasand:
Either the last second of the last minute of the last hour of the last day of July. Or we will be let down again.

However I assume vodadumb will have their messing about before I actually get it.

I have decided not to upgrade due to cost issues so now I'm looking forward to the update.
[Desire General] erklat:
I'd call that sense/nonsense issues. There is so much going under the hood of the Sense roms that the more I read the more certain I am that most of the people don't know what are they talking about. I don't use Sense ui either. I'm sticking to HTC, you said it is easy enough to flash an aosp rom to HTC phone.
[Desire General] jimmkind:
Regardless your liking of the senseroms. htc will bring new kernel sources and libs to our device. This will enhance the custom roms. DevNull for example (if devs choose to merge them, wich they probably will).
[Desire General] krytak:
http://dkgadget.com/see-whats-new-in-htc-desire-android-2-3-update/
[Desire General] Lothaen:
That article is still speculation.