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[HTC Sensation] _kansei_:
I just got back from a T-Mobile store here in Seattle where I taught the reps how to tell the difference between the Sharp and the AUO panels, both visually and via dmesg.

Of course, T-Mobile won't exchange a phone just because you like the other panel type better. Luckily, Sensation #2 was in a bad touchscreen mood when I was in the store so they swapped it. Before he processed the paperwork I made sure to turn it on, and low and behold, a beautiful Sharp panel. It was obvious without even installing a terminal app.

They had a couple demo Sensations in the store and they were all AUO panels.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
I received my eye test for my job and was told that I actually have better than 20/20 vision.

Anyway, I used a grey wallpaper on both phones and there are no scan lines. You might have got a couple defective Acer displays. How do you know you weren't looking at defective displays.

I will tell you what my eyes can see and that is when scrolling through menus on the Sharp display, the text kind of shrinks and becomes blurry until I stop scrolling. The Acer display I gave my wife does not have this text shrinking effect.
[HTC Sensation] BonesRed:
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/graphics/

I think we should try some of these things out and test my theory. Maybe there's some way to approximate the issues some of us have been having with the displays and test to see what the cause (s) are.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
If your saying that Sharp T.V.'s have a better picture then all I can do is laugh. I have read review after review stating that the Samsung LED's have a better picture than any other LED available. Also stated is the blacks are the darkest ever seen on a LED. In fact, there are only two LED TV's on Cnet that received a rating of 8 or higher and those two are Samsung's. I hope I got your comment wrong and your not saying that Sharp makes a better TV than Samsung. HTC would love to get a Samsung panel in there devices.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
It depends on the model you have. Plastic is used in all TV's. I have a Samsung 7000 series 3D TV and I can assure you, this high end offering does not feel plasticy. The bezel is actually made of fiber glass. Of course there is going to be more plastic in the mid-lower end models. They want to keep the price down. Go buy a 7000, 8000 or 9000 series Samsung and tell me if it still feels plasticy.

By the way, if you don't want manufacturers to use plastic on there TV's, what do you propose they use?
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Nope, trust me. You were clear 3 times! To bad, nobody will ever know the truth of whether you were just looking at faulty displays or if your eyes can see stuff others can't.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Can anyone with a DSLR and an Acer screen take some good quality pics? I'm just interested in seeing some good pics of it.
[HTC Sensation] PurpleSkyz:
I git a 102 inch led samsung tv 6000, and I love it. I was saying this as a COMPARISON in screen difference.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Cool optical illusions. On most of them, I actually had to look for the illusion as my eyes were already seeing the truth. For instance, the grey circles between the black squares. I had look away and look back to see them. I have seen stuff like this plenty of times and usually my brain only sees what's there. Not what they want it to see.
[HTC Sensation] Slash8915:
Can't seem to find it
[HTC Sensation] El Daddy:
Samsung owns 50% of the S-LCD corporation.
[HTC Sensation] tenbeau:
Mine is Sharp made in Taiwan 6/3/11. The screen is actually pretty good not washed out like the first two I received. Really like this phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):D
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
AUD_NT here with no display bugs, great contrast, vibrant colors, responsive to the touch and insanely good in direct sunlight. Probably the best in sunlight I have ever seen. Much much better when

directly compared next to my Nexus S and G2X.
[HTC Sensation] KillaHurtz:
It's true, Sharp also made all the screens for the PSP & PSP GO.
[HTC Sensation] mike2518:
just checked, its Sharp. date on the box is 5/27/11. head on, the display quality is excellent. but when viweing it from an angle, there is some wash out, nothing out of the ordinary though.
[HTC Sensation] mike2518:
Maybe thats our holy grail! That panel that has AUD_NT might be better than Sharp. People, please check this out and report your findings. It will help the community out alot. Not to figure just what AUD_NT means.
[HTC Sensation] Spartanjet:
Its actually AUO_NT doing a quick google search it seems as if its AU Optronics Corp who makes that panel.
[HTC Sensation] mike2518:
Wow, great find! The two people with the reported AU panels report that it is really good, makes me think what we Sharp folks are missing out! Sharp definitely does not have a good reputation, especially with that MYTOUCH 4G fiasco they had before.
[HTC Sensation] calimove:
Panel_id_pyd_sharp

5-25-2011
[HTC Sensation] martinchavez90:
Here mine next to my old G2X ....

AUO.NT

5/31/11
[HTC Sensation] graffixnyc:
hmm very interesting.. It's the SAME as the xoom. They had a panel by sharp and one by AU. I think the end consensus there was just a difference in preference. One had advantages over the other and visa-versa but "overall" people preferred the AU screen over the sharp in the xoom
[HTC Sensation] Utking:
Could this be the reason people have different battery life?
[HTC Sensation] borodin1:
<6>[ 0.718139] mipi_novatek_panel_type_detect: panel_type=PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT

No complaints. Slightly washed out when viewing at extreme angles but perfectly fine in everyday situation as far as colors go. Touch functions are another story as it seems to jerk around a lot and was missing a lot of swipes today while playing Fruit Ninja. I attribute that to the software though: Sense is seriously unpolished.

BTW, to those who can't find the info: run dmesg and send an email with output to yourself (terminal emulator have that function built-in), then, use CTRL+F to find it (I just searched for "panel" rather then complete line)
[HTC Sensation] endGameXIII:
mine is PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT
[HTC Sensation] laidbackfreak:
Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP

Here still looks awesome :D
[HTC Sensation] shorty87:
Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP

Looks and works great!
[HTC Sensation] silentsnow31802:
Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP

LCD looks fine! I am also getting a LOT of battery use from the display.
[HTC Sensation] hendr1k:
sharp panel too and all my friends love it, the color is so good. but the bad thing look at power consumption seem display sucked all my battery 83% use of display
[HTC Sensation] poisike:
I remember it was the other way around. I had Xooms with both panels and the one with Sharp panel had better colors, AU was washed out. Sharp had more ghosting.
[HTC Sensation] PurpleSkyz:
Loved that. (EDIT: I just did all the tests, that was epic, i really loved it)

Yes that is the best way to describe some of our perception differences, and mostly what kind of weird distortions the people affected perceive.

In the middle of this post, I posted a close of of an AUO and you could see the pixels where asymmetrical, compared to a guy that previously posted a close up of his sharp, there you could see the pixels where aligned symmetrically. (of course it would mean you have to read the entire post ;p)
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Oh ok...Gotcha...I was about to throw up in my mouth a little bit because I thought someone said Sharp makes better panels than Samsung when it comes to TV's. There not even in the same league.
[HTC Sensation] PurpleSkyz:
where as me, I fail whenever there is a distorted straight line or square, which are actually straight. I see them wavy and such.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
I already read the entire thread and saw those pics. Thanks for those, but I was just looking for some more pics. The more the better! :)
[HTC Sensation] heygrl:
no, Feel in the hand does not equal a phone with better build quality.. with all of the rampant reports of dust under the screen and other small issues HTC is clearly behind Samsung in more than one way. Dust under the screen on a new phone is not cute. It happens way too often with HTC. QC is terrible. I haven't had one issue with my Galaxy S phone that was a result of how it was put together (speaking of BRAND NEW, not refurbs). Using 2 totally different looking panels also adds up to why there are so many inconsistancies.
[HTC Sensation] PurpleSkyz:
After my HTC screen problems, I decided to go look at the sgs2 forums (I always felt samsung was cheap too, but that just a biased opinion) anyway, it is clear there that EVERY SCREEN is effected by a yellowish tin JUST on the rleft side of the phone.

THat just put me off and I asked for another HTC Sensation hoping for the best :p
[HTC Sensation] barmanham:
Fml I can't find it
[HTC Sensation] mike2518:
JRWINGATE, you have both phones. In your opinion, which looks better. I know you've discussed this before, both now that you've had both for a few days, which looks better? Which one has a better viweing angel? Thx.
[HTC Sensation] DrewMullen:
any chance this fact is linked to the European sensations touch screen problems?
[HTC Sensation] heygrl:
Consistency!!!!
[HTC Sensation] chipmaniac:
Adding to the confusion

I returned my Sensation and will stick with my MT4G for now. The screen's washout and weird shimmering effect was too much. I also don't think I could get used to Sense after being accustomed to CM7. Plus, you get the feeling that a ton of the power of the Sensation is used up in rendering the 3D interface. I believe form should follow function, not the other way around. If CM7 is ever available for the Sensation I will probably reconsider, but by that time the SGS 2 will likely be available.

Anyway, after I returned the Sensation via USPS I decided to stop by the T-Mobile store to look at their demo Sensation and see if the screen was better and if so what type it was. It was immediately apparent to me that the demo unit didn't have nearly the amount of off-axis attenuation as the Sensation I had. Additionally, the shimmering affect of small text was a lot less though still perceivable. I quickly installed Terminal and ran 'dmesg' and emailed myself the results.

It turns out that it was an Acer screen, just like mine had been. There must be some serious build consistency issues at HTC because the difference was like night and day. I still would like to be able to see a Sharp screen, especially to see if the shimmering affect was less. Part of me wishes I had done a warranty exchange instead of just sending it back for a refund. However, I think if you spend $600+ for a smartphone you should be completely satisfied with it. The Sensation didn't offer me enough above and beyond what my MT4G provides me to justify it, despite an absolutely stellar design and feel.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
I like them both to be honest with you but I am using the Sharp display since the letters appear to be a little more crisp. I read a lot on my phone so it only made sense to let my wife take the Acer since she thought it looked better.

The Acer definitely has better viewing angles, brighter colors and is great in direct sunlight. The blacks also look better on this display.

The Sharp has sharper text with more natural colors. It's still good in direct sunlight, just not as good as the Acer.
[HTC Sensation] cjm1979:
Vodafone Uk PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP. No problems at all.
[HTC Sensation] hardcore88:
I have scoured each line over and over in the output from running dmesg and can't find the line that says my panel type. I'm more curious than anything because my screen looks fine.. any thoughts?
[HTC Sensation] BonesRed:
I had the same problem, someone else gave me the tip of rebooting my phone and running dmesg in terminal as soon as the phone boots up. Let me know if that works for you!

Edit: Also don't "scour" the lines just have the output emailed to yourself and run a search in your email client or (copy/paste it into a text editor) and search using that program.
[HTC Sensation] hardcore88:
That worked. Thanks for the tip and your time.
[HTC Sensation] BonesRed:
Glad to hear it, maybe that should be added to the OP.

Which one do you have and have you experienced any issues? Also if someone helps you out, be so kind as to hit the thanks button. Seeing my thanks to posts ratio inch up makes me feel like I am successfully transitioning from forum newb to semi-helpful.
[HTC Sensation] C0NAN:
Just got my phone today in the Philippines and it's a Sharp. I was choosing between two units at the store and the other unit's white color had a bit of green tint to it. I chose the one that had more "whitish" white.
[HTC Sensation] mnik:
hi friends,

I asked HTC about different display technology on SENSATION they answered me :

Dear Mohammad,

Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center.

With regards to your reply,

Kindly note that we have alot of screens from diffrent provides as we have HTC SENSATION with LCD and with S LCD but you as a customer you cannot feel the diffrence .

For more support information, you can contact us by phone: +20-238-272-820

select your country and then click on the Support tab.

Thank you once again for your continued patronage.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11IRCW26ENA000072.

Sincerely,

Hasnaa

HTC

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"with LCD and with S-LCD" ?!!! so how can I find out which one is S-LCD?!!

the htc`s links was removed because of new user ...
[HTC Sensation] KillaHurtz:
I believe the SLCD are the AUO models, unless someone can comfirm their Sharp box says Super LCD on the back ?
[HTC Sensation] _kansei_:
They all say Super LCD on the box
[HTC Sensation] vvilliamm:
both boxes says slcd cause ive used both of them =] both screens are great imo.. acer is brighter outside and its more readable. This is my own judgment of course with the default screen protector on.
[HTC Sensation] 30Glock:
Take off the screen protector, It just gets better.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Wow, HTC is full of ****..."you as a consumer cannot tell a difference"

BULL****!

If they don't use SLCD on ALL Of their Sensations, then they shouldn't put "SUPER LCD" right on the back of the damn box. That's ridiculous. If my new HTC sensation comes with a ****ty screen, I'm done with this phone.
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
I dont want to be the one to say this, but I had the AUO and have bad screen problem with swyping. So I exchanged it and got a sharp. I knew right away it was a sharp even before checking cause it didnt have those lines like the AUO..

I can confirm. The AUO is more vibrant colors and the sharp is more SHARP..

I like the sharp. and I wont accept AUO anymore.

I can also confirm AUO is better i sunlight. At angle, there both the same. But for me, since i see the lines in AUO i want sharp. If you have not great eye sight, id go auo all the way.
[HTC Sensation] PurpleSkyz:
You aren't the one to say this, you are the one amongst many.

"As a customer I cannot feel the difference?" Whatever happens next, because of that sentence only, this is the last HTC I buy.

Do they think we are physically disabled sheep?

Not only did I see the difference RIGHT AWAY, I felt it too. How can company advertise SLCD screens and blatantly tell you the also ship with LCD screens and tell you its ok because they feel you wont see the difference. Isnt that even against the law?

China, Superior.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Yep, I just emailed them to tell them how I feel. Let them know they lost me as a customer.

When I'm buying a $600 phone, I don't like to be lied to about what specs it has. And the screen is one of the biggest factors I look at when buying a phone.
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
DID my post make you cry?:confused:

But I agree. Its BS.
[HTC Sensation] hardcore88:
I am pretty good about hitting the thanks button when I'm on my laptop but the xda app doesn't have one. I'm on my second sensation. Will probably be the third by the end of the day due to touchscreen issues. I have the sharp panel and my serial is ht15zt. I have been with HTC for a long time, seriously considering a break up :sad:
[HTC Sensation] graffixnyc:
Hmm I have an unbranded version from Asia. No where on the box does it say S-LCD. It just mentions qHD in the hightlights section on top and under display it simply says 4.3-inch touch screen. I have a sharp screen date of manuf: 4/30/2011
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
I have an AUO panel..I don't see any lines or anything.

Edit: I do notice the flickering/white text on black background issue though. A bit annoying.
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
Agreed.

HTC slipped with the Sensation.

Problem is the "New" HTC fan boys who are acting like Apple fan boys.

It disgusts me.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
So wait...HTC is basically lying? That's really lame.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
I have a odd situation. My wife's Acer panel had the unresponsive lock screen bug so I returned it. Now we have the Sharp panel I've been using that has had no problems and she got a Sharp panel on her new Sensation. Problem is, her Sharp panel has the really bright vibrant colors that the Acer had I have the Sharp that everyone else has which is not as bright but has very good text clarity.

Now she is making fun of me because her display looks better than mine. Also, the Sharp panel is no longer plagued by the viewing angles.

Do you think HTC had Sharp upgrade the displays or what?
[HTC Sensation] C0NAN:
Same here, no mention of S-LCD on my box. :confused:
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Wow, weird. What is the date on the box of the new sharp one?
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
June 3, 2011
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Hmmm....the one I just sent in for exchange had a date of 6/3...hopefully I didn't just get rid of the best screen on the htc sensation lol
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Oh and also, PICS please!! :)
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
Not even here on the bottom?
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Yup, as soon as my wife gets home you will get pics.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Awesome!

10char
[HTC Sensation] bruce2728:
I've just got my o2 uk sensation which has the Acer panel and there is no mention of S-LCD on the box
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Well my "Acer" panel equipped Sensation came in a T-Mobile box and it clearly says S-LCD on the back.
[HTC Sensation] barmanham:
Sigh....... Htc why do you do this wait I know why people keep buying your phones....... Samsung why can't you use better materials for your phones......

Only reason I have this phone is because I traded my nexus s and a fifty spot for this first off I think nexus s is faster the plastic battery plate kills it

Anyways I have the Acer screen and I'm starting not to like it on day two it has these wierd lines everything else I like on the phone good job htc but this different screen **** is not expectable

To be honest if the iPhone had a bigger screen id really consider it at this point I'm really dissapointed in htc, if Samsung can nail the build quality watch out but as it stands the Samsung phones plastic creaks with the amount these companys are making.

Sorry for the wall of text I'm just pissed I might have to trade someone this for a nexus s or sell this fail
[HTC Sensation] larzy:
All good on my end
[HTC Sensation] mpjohns3:
Phew, thank god samsung won't ship the phone with 2 different screens... It's only the processor that will vary by region. Glad it's not anything important like a subtle difference in screen... :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] C0NAN:
Nope there's none, I'll post a picture of the box after I hit 8 posts. :)
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
Wow that's crazy .
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
In my opinion, Samsung uses quality material in there devices. Just because they use plastic doesn't mean the internal parts that make the phone work are cheap. I had a Vibrant for a while and I dropped it a couple times without a case on it. The plastic didn't crack at all. Some of you guys are acting like HTC doesn't use any plastic in there devices. I have held 5 Sensations and 2 of them had a creaking sound when you typed and out of the 4 Vibrants I held, non of them creaked. Also, if you take your battery cover off the Sensation, the volume rocker and panel button wiggles around.

People need to stop knocking Samsung for the material they use on there phones. They use plastic for a reason.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
I see where the box says "Super LCD"
[HTC Sensation] C0NAN:
I was referring to my box not his, ah finally can post pictures!
[HTC Sensation] mobilehavoc:
What does not having SLCD on the box have anything to do with it? It's marketing and they decided to leave it out on your box. On the HTC website and everywhere it's clearly stated it's a SLCD. End of story.
[HTC Sensation] matistight:
Sharp, Taiwan, 5/13/11 :(
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
No where on the HTC website does it say it's super LCD.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
But they did say it was a super LCD in the unveiling of the device.
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
People were asking that's what it matters. He was just stating that his box didn't.. thanks..
[HTC Sensation] graffixnyc:
I have the same box. I'm in the US though. My Sensation was confirmed by HTC(with my serial #) to be from Malaysia
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
I know, I was just saying that it doesn't say so on the site, which is what that poster said.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
Where's your wife?? :D
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
So what's the verdict? Are they all not slcd? Or just the sharp?or auo?
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
No one knows, but a user here got an email from HTC saying not all are SLCD.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
I don't know. Sharp actually makes super LCDs, but I haven't seen anything about AUO making super LCDs. AUO makes panels for Samsung, LG, and Apple though.
[HTC Sensation] smashpunks:
Interesting that htc would do this.. Since having both the difference is night n day between the two..
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
I highly doubt htc would do something like this. Send another email guarantee you get a different response.

How can Slcd and lcd not be noticable that email does not make sense.
[HTC Sensation] brian85:
I sent an email asking about that...no reply yet. They usually reply in less than a day.
[HTC Sensation] stoneyjonez:
Exactly. ONE person got an email from ONE rep at HTC with ****ty English skills. I doubt this person at HTC even knew wtf they were talking about. Obviously there are 2 different screens, there's no doubting that, but that doesn't mean some aren't S-LCD just because this one person says so.
[HTC Sensation] C0NAN:
Can you point to the web site where it says so?

http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html

Here there is no mention of it.
[HTC Sensation] gr8cop:
Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT

I have notice terrible text flickering. It is most noticeable when the text is white or light colored with a black background. Thing I will be taking it back for an exchange
[HTC Sensation] Solidus_n313:
Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP

looking glorious, even in sunlight! ive never been able to easily read text from a website while walking down the street on a fone like this before.

as for dead pixels, there might be 2, but is could just be larger particles of dust...