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[HTC Sensation] kurtish:
Put in my new anker battery last night before bed....

Left it charging over night for 7 hours.....

Had it on from 8am until 11pm, medium use (calls and lots of internet) and have just been playing youtube videos for 30 minutes to drain it.....

The same usage killed my stock battery by 730pm yesterday and it had to be charged.....

So all is good with the anker :)
[HTC Sensation] kurtish:
They advise not to charge over 24 hours on the instructions that are shipped with the battery :p
[HTC Sensation] independence2206:
can somebody from the US buy the 2 Anker + charger at amazon.com and send it to good old germany? :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] kurtish:
It'd be cheaper for someone from the UK to buy it wouldn't it? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0EMB4XB9JKRTES7PHBR0
[HTC Sensation] woody21:
the charger is a travel charger so will be the same wherever you buy from, as mentioned should be cheaper to buy from the uk, postage to germany would be quicker and cheaper too for a signed for traceable service.
[HTC Sensation] churro7:
Can someone link me to some of these?
[HTC Sensation] dhdcdarchy:
Twin pack with charger is where its at :)
[HTC Sensation] willhub:
It's not recommended, but I decided to use Autostart Manager to stop all apps from starting up at boot and to kill them if they restart, but I took my phone off charge before I went to bed, then I woke up 9 hours

15 mins later the phone was stone cold and still at 100%. With light usage I now get about 30+ hours out of it but when I use it for any length of time it can start to drain quick.
[HTC Sensation] independence2206:
Yes, that´s right...Now I have to find someone from the UK to help me...Any

folunteer?^^
[HTC Sensation] thickestice:
Hey independence I sent you a PM
[HTC Sensation] ladapower:
My Anker - Monster is on its way :) Any other accessory recommendation for this phone? (PM Please I don't want to mess up the thread :rolleyes: )
[HTC Sensation] Arthur Hucksake:
Just ordered one of these, incredible for 8 quid. Bargain.
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
I've got a quick question.

I just ordered my Anker 1900 mAH battery, but I'm a little confused.

My Sensation 4G is stock, no-root, s-on

Can I simply pop in the Anker 1900 when I get it and reap the benefits?

Or do I have to be rooted and do all that battery stat wipe, battery calibration junk in order to notice a difference?

I'm hoping that I can just pop it in and enjoy longer battery life :confused:
[HTC Sensation] umd:
You shouldn't need s-off'd or rooted device but some people are reporting that calibrating battery made it better. Even you have to calibrate you just need to follow that little guide. Ne need s-off etc. And remember your battery will be ok after 3-4 fully charge-discharge cycles.

"Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it."
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
Thank you Figure_desire!

But isn't that known as bump-charging? I thought bump-charging was very bad for your battery? :confused:
[HTC Sensation] umd:
As I know bump charging is charging with higher voltages just some seconds. It is applied to dying(almost) batteries. And you're right it effects very badly. But this procedure is recommended by HTC support as I remember.
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
I read this, so I assumed it was bump charging:

http://www.androidcentral.com/bump-charging-what-it-and-how-do-it

So with the method you suggest, do I do that EVERY time for the first 4-5 charge cycles? Or just for the 1st time?

I appreciate your help, Figure_desire :)
[HTC Sensation] umd:
That looks like an extreme method to me. The method I suggested is very simple. Maybe it counts as a bump charging too, I'm not sure but I've been using it for years and didn't see a bad sign of it.

After 3-4 cycles if you don't get good battery life, you need to do it just one time. Hope it all goes ok for you :)
[HTC Sensation] spoogedemon:
doesn´t work for me.

after loading the battery to full power, it is also full "green" when plugged in after power off.

to those of you, based in germany.

i´ve send a message to "laptopmateuk", because shipping wasn´t able to germany, and due to this, you can´t place the order.

but now, they changed this setting.

so, you are able to purchase one of these...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-1900m...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314002546&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-1900m...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314002546&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-1900m...3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314002546&sr=1-3

awesome support anyway.
[HTC Sensation] independence2206:
thanks man, great job, i just ordered 2 of them!

Vielen Dank
[HTC Sensation] Vipeout:
+1, besten Dank! :) I'm in Switzerland (Amazon doesn't like Switzerland at all if you order anything else than books :(), but a Colleague from work lives just behind the border. Im expecting my 2 Ankers by friday :D
[HTC Sensation] sniperde:
AH and I thought it was an Amazon thingy and therefore ordered chichitechs.

But as they are supposed to be exactly the same....
[HTC Sensation] spoogedemon:
you´re welcome. :)
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
So can anybody give me a quick rundown regarding what I should do when I receive my Anker battery?

Do I charge it first? Drain it first?

Do I need to calibrate a new battery? Do I need to wipe battery stats?

What do I need to do to ensure I get the full benefits of my 1900 mAH Anker battery?

Quick note: I'm full stock, no root, s-on so I can't use some specific apps on the market.

If somebody could give me that quick rundown, I'd be very thankful. Thanks so much!
[HTC Sensation] Bogdanbd:
I just got my set of two Ankers and the travel charger.

I can say they are really much heavier than the stock battery, phone seems quite heavy now.

One is in my phone now, it came charged 70%. Instructions say to make

3-4 full charge/discharge cycles so this is what I am going to do.

I'll report later.

Currently, on stock 2.3.4 rom I get a full 12-14 hours with the htc battery, medium use.
[HTC Sensation] spoogedemon:
there are two offers, with a differend kind of travel charger - one white, one black.

which one to prefer?
[HTC Sensation] Vipeout:
Depends on your preference. One charges the battery externally (i.e. it doesn't have to be in your phone) so while you use one battery in the phone, you can charge the other!

The black charger is just an USB charger simillar to the one you got with your phone. It charges your battery while inside the phone and you can't charge it without the phone being connected.

I went with the white one because I have already the HTC USB-charger but I ask myself if the black USB charger would charge the battery faster than the original HTC one. I don't want to swap the batteries all the time so mostly it'll be enough to charge the one in the phone inseatd of replacing it. In that scenario, I believe the black charger might get the job done faster than the HTC charger (it has 3.5A vs 2.1A if that means anything...)
[HTC Sensation] crunkin:
Hey,

just saw the amazon links from the UK. I'm from Germany but I don't have a credit card, only paypal. Is there any store allowing me to pay via PayPal / EC Card (MasterCard) or something like that? Did not find any..

Thanks.
[HTC Sensation] Arthur Hucksake:
Got mine today, lets see how I get on.

It's a brand new Sensation too (got a swap for dodgy back cover).
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Based on the positive reviews here, I've ordered one as well.

Oddly, they offer 2 batteries with charger (US plug) for £13.99, or 2 batteries with charger (UK plug) for only £12.99. However if you look at the second pic of the one with the UK plug, you'll notice it's just a UK adapter on the US plug... so you get more for £1 less!

That said, I just bought one battery for £7.99, since I already have a solar charger, and 3 batteries (original + anker + solar) should be plenty. I should have the battery within 4 days, so I'll report back what my experiences are.
[HTC Sensation] willhub:
Very light use I get 60 (SIXTY) hours now.
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Survey

If you already use an Anker 1900mAh battery in your Sensation, please take a moment to fill in this survey.
[HTC Sensation] ebocioj:
after two weeks of using the anker battery. battery life has gon drastically still better than the original battery though
[HTC Sensation] spoogedemon:
great idea - thanks.
[HTC Sensation] gibbo82:
What's the max and min mV for the anker battery?

Need the setting for battery monitor widget.
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
i really want buy this battery..but i don't found any seller shipping to Bahrain :(
[HTC Sensation] jonalejm:
HTC

Have you seen the extended battery for HD2? It looks awful.. I rather take the charger with me everywhere than put a huge battery that comes out on the back...:cool::cool::cool:
[HTC Sensation] thickestice:
Hi Juanito, I sent you a PM.
[HTC Sensation] gibbo82:
Anyone??
[HTC Sensation] gibbo82:
First cycle with the anker battery 6hrs 37mins with heavy usage.

Good or bad?
[HTC Sensation] rotohammer:
I got my Anker 1900 battery today. I peeled off the label but there was no markings.

Heres what I've measured so far:

Stock Anker %Diff
Weight 31g 34g 10%
Thickness .195" .215" 10%

I have a hunch the Anker may provide 10% more run time :)

I'll run battery capacity discharge tests when I have time.
[HTC Sensation] hytl:
Anyone know how to use the white charger that comes with the batteries? I see there are 2 plug on the charger. Do I just connect it with the + and - sign on the battery and charger? The problem is it doesn't say which one is + or - on the charger.
[HTC Sensation] rotohammer:
I inserted my battery with the plus to the left and it appeared to charge fine.
[HTC Sensation] hytl:
Thanks for reply. I'm chargin my stock battery right now. Trying to drain the Anker for the 1st cycle
[HTC Sensation] silentsnow31802:
I just bought an anker battery from eBay. As soon as it gets here I plan on running capacity tests on it as well as my stock battery. I can tell you exactly how much mah each battery holds. I will post back when done.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
It doesn't matter which charging pin is on the positive or negative terminal, the charger will figure it out.
[HTC Sensation] /devnull:
Out is curiosity how are you going to determine this? Simple multimeter probe? If you use just that you can short the battery. You need to use a constant load to test not a fixed resistive test. Using the latter as current drops so does voltage and you need calculus integration to calculate the capacity total. The former approach ensures a constant energy draw and since you would know what that draw is and how long it took to drain the battery to its minimum cutoff voltage its simple math at that point by virtue of amperage multiplied by time yielding amperage hours. The problem here is of course when the battery is drained all you know is how much energy was stored in the battery from when you started the process, not how much the battery can hold.
[HTC Sensation] rotohammer:
Unless you use the same test equipment as the battery manufacturer, theres a good chance that your measurements will differ. What is more valuable is a direct comparison between the OEM and aftermarket batteries, even if tested into a resistive load, as long as the test is done the same on each cell, and performed for 3 to 5 times each.

The Anker charger makes the perfect jig for building your own load tester.
[HTC Sensation] gibbo82:
ok, this can't be right, I charged my anker battery to 100% took it off charge, and went to bed as I work nights, phones been idle for 7hrs and 20mins and the % is down to 62!! Surely this can't b right!?

This is on my second charge cycle
[HTC Sensation] spoogedemon:
So,

now I also have 2x Anker and the charger in use.

The charger is the black one, and there is a battery-slot on one side, within you can charge a battery, while loading the phone with the usb-port also available.

The white one seems to be...hmm, strange. Because there are slider to shift the pins in the right position to fit the pin-side on the battery.

Also, it seems to be a bit larger, than the black one.

So for me, the black is perfect.
[HTC Sensation] silentsnow31802:
I have a charger/discharger leftover from my RC days. It can measure all that stuff for me and display it on the screen. I plan on cycling it a couple times and taking down the readings. Ive done this one on the MT4G forum for an ebay battery that was posted at 1700Mah but only held just under 1000mah. The charger will discharge the battery lower than a phone would so ill be giving it its best chance possible.
[HTC Sensation] abachhan75:
i have been using anker battery now for last three days, went thru two charge cycle. i can say that it lasts more than stock battery. now i can go the whole working day with some juice still left. I was on wifi all the time. haven't tested it on mobile only network. (TMOUS 4g, i have heard that it drains the battery a lot.)

I have yet to make a long voice calls. my experience with stock battery was that voice calls would drain battery like crazy. what are your feedback regarding voice calls?
[HTC Sensation] Kurisu87:
Had this battery for about a month or so and its working perfectly it definitely hold more charge than my stock one but at least a few hours!
[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
Loving this battery, 2nd cycle --- 13 hours connected to WiFi Calling - 1 18 minute phone call and 1 hour screen on time...76%.
[HTC Sensation] Mikeglongo:
Is the Anker 1900 mah better than the stock battery? I need morebattery life than I am gettin gwith the Sensation stock
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
Its alot better. I just ordered the battery and charger combo for $16.99. I have the chichitec battery and I dont have to charge the whole day. I work 13 hour shifts and still have like 35% when I get home. Im gonna try out this combo because its alot cheaper than the chichitec and I heard and read alot of good things about it.
[HTC Sensation] Mikeglongo:
Where did you find that combo? I found just the battery itself for 16.99 which isn't worth it if there is a combo like that
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
Ebay! Here you go: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-1900m...572129?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item336a4a1561
[HTC Sensation] Mikeglongo:
But I heard the ebay ones always are false, to go with amazon instead?
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
Dont know anything about that. LaptopMate are pretty good power sellers. Maybe I missed something in this thread?
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
Mike, I think you took what I said out of context.

I suggested ordering from Amazon because the order is fulfilled by Amazon for LaptopMate, so communication will be a little easier in case you get a defective product or the product is not as advertised.

I did not say, nor have I seen anybody say, that ebay ones are always false.

Lakeshow showed you a great deal on ebay. I'd go for that deal if your confident in LaptopMate (they have a good rating). $16.99 for a battery, a wall charger, and free shipping is well worth it!
[HTC Sensation] Lakeshow423:
Thanks for clearing things up Chris! I thought I made a bad purchase LOL!
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
No problem, buddy ;)

You definitely made a good purchase.
[HTC Sensation] Mikeglongo:
No , I read it earlier in the thread, not from you . Sorry for the misunderstanding. I will most likely cancel my amazon order, and check out the ebay one because it is cheaper, same company, and more stuff.

Thanks a lot

Just ordered via Ebay with the external charger as well. Cancelled the amazon one because there was free shipping and extra stuff with the ebay one
[HTC Sensation] silentsnow31802:
Got my Anker today. Im going to cycle it fully 5 times before I do any testing. I did run a test on the stock battery and it held 1482mah. I will post comparison pictures once I get the Anker broken in a little.
[HTC Sensation] cybertarian:
Amazon doesn't ship the battery everywhere. EBay sellers sometimes ship it to place cant be posted by Amazon...

As for the authentic issue, I don't rly think anyone would think of making false one, since the real ones r already cheap enough...
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
I'm using Battery Monitor Widget (BMW) on my HTC Sensation.

The standard HTC battery is labelled 1520mAh, but BMW reports it as 1580mAh.

I inserted an Anker 1900mAh battery yesterday, went through a couple of charge cycles (100-1-100-1-100), and BMW still reports 1580mAh.

Does anyone else have experience with BMW? Do I have to do anything special to get BMW to read and report the correct mAh? I know I can fill in the values in BMW, but will BMW automatically get the correct value over time?

I have not rooted my phone, and don't want to unless necessary, but would rooting my phone and wiping battery stats cause BMW to get the correct value? (Please don't speculate, only answer this if you know for sure.)
[HTC Sensation] awesam:
tried to order an anker batt off ebay but they don't ship it outside of the US ?
[HTC Sensation] mathrania:
Did the Anker Battery ruined my 2 Sensations ?????

Read my story here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1237023

Give me your opinion guys !!!!
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Personally I think it's extremely unlikely. The Anker battery doesn't get hot to the touch, it doesn't press up against any circuitry, it's nowhere near the mic, and the kernel reports mV readings within range. Nothing much else for the battery to affect.

I'd look for the cause elsewhere, possibilities include environmental (e.g. humidity), software, etc.
[HTC Sensation] thickestice:
this ebay seller ship outside US

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Batte...315571?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20bb6b2873
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Amazon.com/Amazon.co.uk ship outside the US, and both sell the battery directly from the original vendor (LaptopMate/LaptopMateUK).
[HTC Sensation] vwbest16:
Anker is better Mugen 1800mAh ??
[HTC Sensation] awesam:
Thanks thick, just placed an order for it..
[HTC Sensation] picachux:
I've had the Anker battery for well over a month. It's still going strong getting around 13-15hrs before I get into the Red 25%. Just yesterday I got 15hrs even after using the Google Navigation for about an hour, Even in the Los Angeles summer heat battery only gets warm to the touch. Best $10 spent ever! :D
[HTC Sensation] noxPHX:
Damn! That's a good amount of time. Especially with navigation.

My battery gets hot, but then again, I am in Phoenix (AZ) :P

Doesn't get too hot though :)
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Results:

I calibrated the battery stats (no root, just a few 100%-0%-100% cycles to retrain Android). To drain the battery quickly, I used Ulyses Gizmos (uses GPS and all internal sensors, and keeps the screen on), and I turned screen brightness up to 100% and waiting until the phone switched itself off. Then I switched the phone on and charged it to 100%, turned the phone off, and continued charging. Now the % is reported correctly (e.g. no longer takes ages before it drops from 100 to 99).

I'm not doing any objective tests (i.e. with test equipment, meters, etc.), just subjective usage tests. From my normal use, the battery seems to extra battery life in comparison to the stock battery. With the new battery, I'm I get roughly 15% more battery-life. This is less than the 25% (1900/1520) I would have expected, and seems more like 1700.

One negative aspect of the Anker battery is that it reports the wrong temperatures... the stock battery would report temps from 25 to 35C, the Anker battery only reports 24-25C, but with heavy draining of the battery (during the 100-0 cycle) the Anker battery definitely feels about as warm as the stock battery.

Under normal use, the battery feels cooler to the touch than the stock battery but, since the temperature readings are wrong, this is a purely subjective observation.

It's slightly thicker than the stock battery, and markedly heavier. It makes the phone feel heavier in the hand, which I actually like... makes the phone feel more substantial and a little bit more 'secure' in my palm.

Conclusion: The €9 + shipping was good for the extra battery-life, but the 1900mAh seems wrong... fraud?

I purhcased it from Amazon.co.uk (vendor LaptopMateUK) on Monday, it was shipped Tuesday, and I received it with the regular post in Amsterdam on Thursday.
[HTC Sensation] lc235:
If I calibrated my Anker with the Battery Calibration app, do I still need to change the mA setting in the Battery Monitor app (I feel like the monitor app is useless when I already have the calibration app). With calibration, the percentage is still not reporting accurately. But I haven't cycled it several times yet, is that why?
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Ok, to calibrate with the Battery Calibration app, you'll need root.

According to the developer, the Battery Widget Monitor has no way of knowing the mAh of a battery, so you have to set that manually. The % value it uses, however, is reported by Android and should be correct after proper calibration. Proper calibration involves either several 100-0-100 cycles which updates the statistics, or charging to 100 and removing Android's battery stats file (which requires root) and then discharging to 0, which builds a new stats file.
[HTC Sensation] lc235:
Yea I rooted and calibrated my battery yesterday, and didn't even bother to open the monitor app. But even with calibration, it takes an abnormal amount of time for the % to drop from 100 to 99. I am in the process of charging/discharging it a few times. Hopefully, the % will read correctly after those cycles......hopefully xD.
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
The developer of the battery monitor said that it is normal for the disproportionate amount of time for it to drop from 100 to 99. He said that it was the result of a "work-around" implemented by HTC to ensure the battery reached 100 during charging - perhaps the smart-logic of the battery goes into a trickle at the top and so HTC only estimates the 100 mark. Not sure, really.

I experienced this already with the stock battery. With the Anker battery, it took even longer, but after a few full 100 to 0 to 100 cycles it now takes about as long as it did with the stock battery... i.e. still longer than every other 1% drop, but a lot less than at first.
[HTC Sensation] Sdobron:
I purchased 2 Anker 1900 mah batteries and the universal wall charger for $28.99USD the other week.

Doing some research and saw this from Chichitec. Similar package for $34.99USD.

http://www.amazon.com/CHICHITEC-T-mobile-Sensation-Cellphone-Battery/dp/B0057TYN3E/ref=pd_cp_e_2

Anker and Chichitec are comparable in quality?
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Here's a review of the battery, indicating an improvement in battery-life in excess of 34%...

http://reviewstash.com/viewtopic.php?id=1835
[HTC Sensation] lc235:
Thanks for the help! [:

So even after cycling the battery, you still experienced some inconsistencies in the battery % reporting?
[HTC Sensation] sowen222:
Yes. Initially it took a LONG time with the Anker battery. Now, after cycling the battery, it's about the same as with the stock battery. The step from 100% to 99% takes about the same time as from 99% to 95% (i.e. the first 1% takes about 4x longer than every other 1%).

UPDATE: I've just finished another cycle, at it appears to be down to about 2x.
[HTC Sensation] rault18:
I just got mine and did the discharge and charge over night ...I downloaded battery monitor...chNged the capacity to 1900on the capacity tab..however do I need to change the Jin and max values? If so...to what

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] lc235:
I would think that calibrating the battery is better than changing the specs in the monitor app. Besides, I thought the battery isn't even truly 1900 mA even though it lasts longer.