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[Atrix 4G General] WiredPirate:
You didn't ask any questions, there is not one single question mark in your whole post. You only posted to complain. This is a public forum if you dont want to hear my reply then you should post in a private forum. Instead you want me to read your lame ass post and copy/paste the information here for you so you dont have to do any work finding the answers yourself? YOU are the troll.:cool:

+1
[Atrix 4G General] rpolansky:
Same here and with Citrix Xen Desktop and the lapdock I can run a Windows XP session and use Excel/Word and all my other office software....

I don't understand about the flashlight...although I have read that some apps can burn out the led on a phone. Maybe you should take it in under warranty.

On the keypad..there is a delay if you are in the process of rebooting your phone. Otherwise entering the code is instantaneous. Fingerprint reader may take me two times..
[Atrix 4G General] blackangel104:
Ive owned a moto backflip and htc aria before getting this phone and in my opinion, it feels like a better version of the motorola backflip

Life is a banquet and death is dessert
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
I'm pretty sure you're the troll. If you don't like the content of the thread (or can already tell you won't by reading the title), exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.
[Atrix 4G General] j_simon208:
I came from a Vodafone UK Iphone 4 and got back to the states...I picked up the atrix after a BUNCH of research. I am really happy with it. So much I really havent even paid attention to upcoming phones.(thats how I gauge how much i really like a phone). it is kinda like being happy with your woman enough not to notice all the others out there.

The other thing to keep in mind is the version of Android isnt even supporting ALL that this phone can do. So it really is future proof for a while. Gingerblur has made things smooth as can possibly be also.

give it some time bro
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
OP, I disagree with you. I recently baught a nexus one for my wife, $270 brand new. Although I love its build quality, my Atrix is MUCH faster (with Go launcher EX). And yes, even the Nexus one with its 1 Ghz CPU lags after a day of use.
[Atrix 4G General] WiredPirate:
Now you're the troll. If you don't like the content of my post, exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
Exactly what I think about the atrix.

I love it.

Great post skillz. +1
[Atrix 4G General] Mgamerz:
Will agree with OP... It's nice but nothing takes advantage of the dual cores it seems.

Live Wallpaper is laggy (with launcher pro or motoblur), the screen takes forever to turn on, it seems every other previous flagship device is getting updates (It's pissing me off!)...

Next time I'm definitely going with HTC, if I can't find a good HTC I'll opt for samsung, but never again for Motorola. Or AT&T for that fact.
[Atrix 4G General] UnCommonGrafx:
When I first saw this phone, I knew it was the one I would buy.

Four months now and I recently got the webdock ($132.88!!) such that this is the most bomb-diggity phone I have ever seen.

My iPhone wife is quite envious.

The phone that has the Kal-El chip, webdock and tabdock will be the phone I next get. So far, all phones want to be like this phone. And none of them have the finger scanner. snicker...

Shucks, found splashtop which makes it a remote for my desktop, too!

Nah, still real thrilled with it. Actually, a little bit more now that I can show everyone I have THE coolest phone: the webdock is amazing tech. One must Linux-it-out, though, to get the most from it.
[Atrix 4G General] theraizen:
I was after this phone for a year :P

And i'm TOTALLY satisfied. The only thing i can argue about is the precision of the finger sensor, but hey, i'm hyperidrotic so even if it's super precise.. wouldn't work for me :D

Oh, and almost forgot, it heats a bit too much, but i guess it's ok :D
[Atrix 4G General] Sanbourne:
Yes the whole damn thread is question. Read the title, theres a question mark after it.

I have been on XDA for almost 6 years now and thats one thing i cannot stand about it are people like you, always complaining about something. I made the thread to hear what other peoples experiences are with their Atrix and not hear you ***** about things. Im on atleast 10 other forums and none of them are anything like this.

Just shut the **** up, please.

Anyways i can see where this thread is going. Mods can go ahead and close it down.
[Atrix 4G General] :
Dude read your own post, its one long complaint about the Atrix. How is that going to help you "hear what other peoples experience are with the Atrix"? Try a search! I may have not had a "helpful" post but you just wanted to complain about the phone. If you have a question be sure to ASK it.
[Atrix 4G General] tyr666:
I had an Galaxy S with Cyanogenmod 7 before the Atrix, the galaxy S was so much faster and also the display are so colorful... it's hard to get used with the pale colors of the Atrix.. our big problem here is Motorola (BLURgh!) customization with a lot of bloatware inside...

We need Cyanogenmod 7 FAST!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] youliang:
Join Date: Dec 2010 :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
So the troll is asking people not to feed the trolls? This thread is trying to defy the laws of physics.

BTW, your mistaken to believe this thread would come out positive. If you dont like your phone, sell it and move on. We dont care.
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
I'm bored, and this thread will probably get locked so:

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not as impressed with my Atrix as I thought I would be. Before this, I had a Nexus One, and it seemed like it was much faster than the Atrix. It just seems like it's always lagging a little bit. I can really tell it(what?!) when I unlock it(WHAT?!?!) because it(OMG PLZ STOP) will randomly stop before I'm done swiping my code. If that makes sense. It'shard to explain. I would use the finger print scanner, but that takes about 6 times to finally unlock the phone. Last but not least, the flashlight on the back(frag). I used to use it all the time, but now it doesn't work half of the time. It will start flashing and dim, untill it finally goes dead and doesnt work. It has (deleted) a yellow tint to it too. Not sure if that's normal.

Why a new paragraph now? You're on a roll!

Also, the dock was a waste of $80. It's not worth$10. I can't even sync the phone to the computer in it.
[Atrix 4G General] mkioshi:
So I read in engadget that they love the DroidX2 display (same as Atrix) more than any other phone while Anandtech bashes on the PenTile technology.... How is the display compared to an iPhone4? I know the super amoled has the vibrant colors and all but I'm curious about those high res devices.

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
I hate my atrix, maybe gingerbread will fix it but I doubt it. I hate 2.2 the more I use it and im starting to hate android in general.

Maybe if setcpu worked properly and my touch screen wouldn't freeze for several seconds randomly I would have a better opinion.

On a plus side I've got unlimited data and my atrix makes a pretty awesome hotapot and the gps rocks.
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
Iphobe 4 display blows th atrix out of the water
[Atrix 4G General] joshyy_rey:
Ill agree with this...still like my Atrix though ...just needs to be freed from moto blur lol
[Atrix 4G General] sifon187:
:rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
I owned one before the atrix. The screen on the iphone4 matched my color calibrated monitor and my prints near perfectly. Maybe you like the pentile pattern and muddy yellows? How about the color banding? Poor contrast unless brightness is on 100% and worse viewing angles are just a handful of my gripes about the atrix screen.
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
I've never had a touch screen problem
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
This device spends more time in my pocket than my IPS calibrated display. 100% more in fact.
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
That's where we differ. I don't always carry an album around so often times I need to rely on my phone to display samples to potential customers.
[Atrix 4G General] chria01:
Jimmer how about you sell your atrix and keep the phone you like. Maybe then you wouldnt be trying to stir up trouble in these parts.
[Atrix 4G General] mkioshi:
So is PenTile that bad? I like my Milestone 2's display even though it's a normal display. But if the Droid 3 has a worse display than my current phone, time to look elsewhere... The main reason I like the Milestone is that it's kinda 'indestructible', all metal and stuff. Only use the phys. keyboard for passwords and boring stuff to type since I discovered Slideit keyboard which makes typing in two languages a breeze.
[Atrix 4G General] droe411:
Ill trade you an Inspire for your Atrix! Not that it may be better, but I get bored easily. I think the only problem with the Atrix is Motoblur....... Other than that it looks like a sweet phone. You should have taken advantage of the 30 day return policy! Your other option is XDA's marketplace, just trade it!

Sent from my Motorola Startac
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
The display won't shock any of your friends with its "OMG THAT LOOKS SO COOL" colours, but I prefer it over the super amoled. Only tools want to impress their friends with their phone anyways. Colours seem more natural to me and the screen is so god dam bright I always have it on the minimum setting. It is nice to have that insane level of brightness when you need it outside.

I like the higher resolution that it offers (960x540) as opposed to (800x480). This means 35% more pixels, so less jaggies! Some people make arguments about some sub-pixel bull**** that some amoled screens have. I don't buy it. Pixels are pixels. Even back in the day when games were played on 1024x768 no one talked about sub-pixels. **** sub-pixels. 1080p > 720p. qHD > 800x480. Amirite???

:)
[Atrix 4G General] bormasina:
The atrix display is piece of s***t. On scale from 1 to 5 iPhone 4 gets 5 and atrix gets -2. Main reason why I've returned my atrix ...
[Atrix 4G General] the2dcour:
Colors and subpixels and resolution matter if you have something to show a client. If you are showing a client this stuff on your phone's screen, -refrrains from further comments-
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
Elaborate.
[Atrix 4G General] jimmer411:
I should have clarified and saidid potential clients.

When im out with my camera in my spare time and someone strikes up conversation and requests to see some of my work its a better choice than handing them a business card. I don't bring my laptop or ipad with me everywhere I go so some option is better than none.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
Did I say colours and resolution doesn't matter? I only said I think subpixels don't matter.

If I'm wrong, and they really do matter, please tell me how they matter, and show me a picture.

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G General] mkioshi:
Ouch, really? Could you elaborate a bit if that's not too much to ask? Because I haven't seen the Atrix display yet and if it's that bad it'll totally kill my plan to get a Milestone 3 since it uses PenTile too. I liked the iPhone 4 and the Samsung Galaxy S display a lot, in different ways but I wouldn't mind having any of those display technologies (when their future versions arrive here, since I'm tied to my contract till the end of the year maybe we'll see quad core phones or whatnot given the crazy rhythm Android devices are being released).
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
This phone was "eh" at first. it is growing on me now, the more i use it. I LOVE HTC but they always have the "ONE" problem with their phones. mytouch 4g defective screens, sensation super crap internal storage, not 1gb ram. Motorola did a good job on this. speaker is good (finally have a phone witha good speaker HTC sounds like a tweeter LOL), good screen, feels GREAT in my hands, fast (even with NON-optimized software), the look grows on you too. when i first saw it i was like.. that looks like a $15 go phone lmao. only complaints are heat issue, little backlight bleeding at the top, doesnt look as amazing as HTC phones, camera = bleh. but other than that i am happy with it. now when they come out with the mytouch 4g slide i will have to see whats up with that :P
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
galaxy S uses pentile. LOL. yeah. unless you use your phone 1" from your face then you wont ***** like that guy. pentile saves power, brighter, better whites, can see it better in sunlight. i posted a thread called "about our displays" have a look at it.

Edit: also, you only notice the pixels on some icons, and the notification bar. they dont show on actual pictures..
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
I don't know why the display matters so much to people.

The atrix display is great for what it is meant to do. Display high-quality images with natural colours. If you want some hocus-pocus enhanced colours, then yeah, go get an amoled.

if you want a high quality screen that is great on the battery, get the qHD pentile!
[Atrix 4G General] joshyy_rey:
From my experience comparing the IP4 screen to any other phone screen is NOT fair. qHD,Amoled Plus etc the retina display is just awesome Apple did that right on that phone no question about it. But the qhd display isnt awful. Its a little grainy at times but its pretty clear...closest thing to the clairity of the retina display ive seen IMO.
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
Hahahaha who the **** shows "clients" anything on a cellphone. Get a tablet or better yet go buck up and buy yourself a book or at least something that's not showing your work on a 3.5 inch screen. Seriously though.. website or it didn't happen.

PS why are you here?
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
Do you sell prints or something? Do you actually meet clients on the street... and last but not least please oh please can I see your work.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Pentile displays trade away image quality for lower energy usage.

Traditional LCD vs Pentile AMOLED

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4165/Bayer-vs-PenTile2.jpg

iPhone 4 Traditional LCD

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/Motorola/Atrix4G/Preview/lcd.jpg

Atrix LCD Pentile Display

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/Motorola/Atrix4G/Preview/pentile.jpg

Pentile displays do NOT yield whiter whites. Nexus S is an AMOLED and still beats the atrix.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4165/35393.png

In summary, traditional displays can display any of the 16million colors in every pixel. Pentiles require 2 pixels to display every color due to how the subpixels are arranged.
[Atrix 4G General] mkioshi:
Got it. But what does it mean in everyday use? Like looking at websites, zooming pictures, etc? Is is worse if you look at the screen more than 1 inch away (honest question)?
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
It means colors are not as accurate, text and straight lines are blurry/fuzzy/jagged. There is also banding issues, though that is not related to the pentile display. Motorola basically cheapened out on the display when it is arguably the most important part of a smartphone. You can check the color accuracy by just displaying yellow. It is very off on the Atrix. Green also has this issue, but not to the same degree. The only way to fix this is to max your brightness to overpower the accuracy issues, but this just drains your battery. Open up the default calculator to see the banding issues. The battery and wifi signals in the notification bar should be quite pixelated.
[Atrix 4G General] madquack:
Blah, blah, blah.
[Atrix 4G General] mkioshi:
Oh do you have an Atrix? If it's not asking too much I'd love to see a screenie of the calculator... Because despite their flaws I am quite a Moto fanboy and seriously considering whatever device they have when my contract expires (I'm drooling over the Milestone 3 but I'd rather get an Atrix or the next model - since the Atrix camera is not iPhone quality and the Milestone 3 will have only 512mb of ram)
[Atrix 4G General] tyr666:
No the display doesn't show natural colors... maybe the white is correct but greens are more like brown... and the yellow are awfull! Still prefer the oversaturated colors of OLED screens... anyway i'm getting used to the Atrix Screen... at least we have QHD weeeee...

Oh the screen of the Iphone 4 still the best. even the Atrix is QHD the pixel density of the Iphone is bigger than the atrix...iphone have 100.000 pixels in a 3.5 inch screen more than the Atrix ( that's why iphone have a lot more contrast than others screens
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Here's the thing, Froyo and even Gingerbread are not optimized for dual-core phones. They are single-core firmware. Only the apps benefit from the dual-core.

It won't be until Ice Cream Sandwich were we will see Dual-Core support.

This is why the N3 will be very popular, but fortunately the Atrix has the "specs" to handle ICS.

The question that remains is, will the carriers allow it?

That's why the unlocked Bootloader is critical, because some of us won't even care about the carrier support anymore if the BL gets unlocked... :)
[Atrix 4G General] bormasina:
OK, i've overreacted little bit. But the fact is that the iPhone's display is the best. Maybe i should have written earlier that atrix display is 2 on a scale from 1 to 5 and not -2. But let face the truth people, the rgbw pentile displays sucks at displaying text, but are somewhat ok for displaying everything else (when watching movies or viewing photos yellow color is terribly off and some banding problems). That is not my conclusion folks, this is the reality, this is what the tests say, experts say and finally users say that text is crappy and the colors are weird.

Read this page first: http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm and you may understand little bit. The guy is an expert in this area. What we can conclude is that rgbw pentile display offers many improvements (battery life, sunlight readability ...) but messes up the text and some colors in photos ... To create drivers for this kind of displays is extremely difficult because color transformation matrix is very complex (borrow neighbor pixels to improve the color accuracy, font aliasing ...)

edgeicator in his post above has nailed it pretty much. Another thing that i can add is that Samsung is listening the complaints of the experts and users and has abandoned the pentile subpixel layout. That is why SGSII has better display than SGS because in SGS super AMOLED was used and SGSII uses super AMOLED Plus.

super AMOLED is pentile with RG-BG layout

super AMOLED Plus is using traditional RGB stripe, so ultimately no more problems with text pixelation and weird colors (source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4465/samsung-droid-charge-review-droid-goes-lte/4 )

HTC is not using pentile displays anymore either, i think.

Some folks may decide to live with this imperfections and not worry about them. Not me. I do not want to look at a screen that is displaying crappy text, weird colors and has banding. Simple as that.
[Atrix 4G General] W3BSurfer:
WOW!

Another " I HATE MY ATRIX " thread of the many that i have seen for the past few months.

Please use the SEARCH function and you will find that you are not so special after all.

Those who have posted a thread similar to this have either kept their mouth shut and returned their phone or kept it, flashed it, themed/modded and perhaps HAPPY bout the results.

I have kept mine since the launch date and have been content bout the functionality of the phone itself. I have flashed, themed and modded it to my personal liking and loved it's flexibility.

There are minor quirks on the phone such as the fingerprint reader etc.. BUT life is full of disappointments....No such thing as a superduperiamtheperfectsmartphone.

If you do find one, do let us know. :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] mkioshi:
Thanks a ton for the links and explanation! That might explain why for some reason I wasn't impressed with the SGS when I could choose between it and my Milestone 2 for almost the same price (SGS was newer so it was like 60 USD more). Sure the colors were eye-popping and later I was thinking I should have got it (because since I discovered SLIDEIT I basically stopped using my physical keyboard) but OTOH I always liked my Milestone 2's display a lot, and later a friend bought a SGS and for some reason after messing with it for half an hour I wasn't impressed with the super amoled screen anymore, I just couldn't figure out the reason until you posted these links, it's the PenTile thing.

Another thing I like about my Milestone 2 is that it seems virtually indestructible (all aluminum body, gorilla glass etc, it has survived a LOT of things lol) .

The sad part is, I won't be getting the Milestone 3 because of this although I still need to see the qHD PenTile display up close - luckily another friend just got an Atrix so I can check it out. Also I hope someone (here in Brazil we mainly get Samsung, Sony and Motorola phones when talking about Android devices, no HTC and LG) makes a camera that's as good as the iPhone one, I'm a mac user but not a fanboy, but I have to say I'm always impressed with my friends' pictures with Apple's phone. I was also impressed with the Nokia N8 camera quality but well.. They're gonna do WP7 and I tried a WP7 launcher and disliked it immensely. Plus I love Android's customization and all :)
[Atrix 4G General] lesonal:
Shut up we are getting an unlocked bootloader ..next update
[Atrix 4G General] PeePeeRAB:
i'll give ya $10 for the dock
[Atrix 4G General] tush:
I'll agree that the display isn't something that makes me go WOW, but I do very much appreciate the qHD resolution. Despite what the facts and figures say about the pentile display, I find it a joy to browse the web on (especially with Dolphin browser HD!)

I hardly ever have slow-downs and flash playback is great. I think as the software matures and we get into gingerbread it'll be even better. Plus the refurbished lapdock I got is actually pretty sweet. (added flashblock to firefox to make things smoother)

But it's too bad you're unhappy with yours. You should sell it and buy something you're happy with. It doesn't really do anything to complain here.
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
i'll give $15 shipped !!!
[Atrix 4G General] bigmout:
Actually, I'm thinking about buying an Atrix and find this thread useful. Frankly, I find comments like yours utterly useless.
[Atrix 4G General] CrispiVizz:
I have an N1, looking to buy an Atrix. I was reading through this form before I get one.

I saw that this site was used... displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm

All I can say is it's a bunch of bull by an apple fanboy. He used the gallery app which Google had set to display 16 bit instead of 32 bit along with other settings that created banding and distortion. (Google has since corrected) Absolutely NOT true, The Sunset on Mars and Intensity Scale Ramps display perfectly on my device with a resolution of 800x480.

My display is awesome (it's amoled) but there is nothing wrong with the pentile display unless you are three inches away from your phone, in which case you would need eye replacement soon.

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[Atrix 4G General] bormasina:
What can i say, you have read few sentences, and saw iPhone word somewhere along the lines, and you have concluded that he is an apple fanboy. The fact that he has Phd (expert in that area) and maybe first person that proved (he was able to quantify it, not just conclude based on naked eye) to google that their gallery is using 16 bit colors instead of 32 bit, means nothing to you. If something contradicts your opinion, then must be a fanboy. :) BTW, he states that after some time google contacted him to let him know that the issue is resolved. At the end, i have pointed out that webpage to stress that pentile display requires rather complex drivers and algorithms to achieve satisfying color accuracy; not to expose the pentile technology ...

Now it is fixed, but it was there ...

Then keep it ... Good for you ...

I could see the crappy text on google search pages from 12 inches, no need for 3 inches to see the crappy text ... maybe i have super vision :p