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[Thunderbolt General] CBMC:
I don't know how much the gb radios have to do with bricking...more than likely a hardware flaw that could surface with any radio. At least this is what I have been made to believe.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
can anybody confirm this is true? if it is im putting full insurance on my device.
[Thunderbolt General] adrynalyne:
I bricked on Froyo.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
you did? ill be calling verizon tomorrow for full insurance.
[Thunderbolt General] cstrife999:
Actually no it wasn't. It was rumored. Morotola never came with a solid date. Alos never heard MR1 was gingerbread I think you're confusing rumors and statements.
[Thunderbolt General] Bignev:
don't think it really matters...bamf, gingeritis, and other roms are far better than any stock. I am looking forward to them developing roms off the final gb build
[Thunderbolt General] ilovesoad:
People on stock have bricked
[Thunderbolt General] satseaker:
You afraid of the boogieman to o,have heard any mention of bricks in the last month other than ads brick(was his fault),its been put to rest so please let it go.

Posted from my Nokia V560
[Thunderbolt General] abn75:
Wrong i bricked my bolt last week, while in recovery backing up my phone nothing has been put to rest. There is still a chance of bricking your phone no matter what you are doing.

sent from my bolt
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
To the people that have bricked. What phone revision are you on? Im on version two and have had no issues. The only thing that can brick a phone is a radio not a rom.
[Thunderbolt General] danumber2:
i hope so but ill believe it when ill c it
[Thunderbolt General] Richardbsweeny:
About time
[Thunderbolt General] ilovesoad:
That is most certainly entirely false. People have bricked flashing any manner of things. No one know really what is causing the bricks, but people have decided that its probably EEMC hardware failure or something else hardware specific.
[Thunderbolt General] studiorat:
sorry about the run on sentence thing.

and If I came off half Cocked I apologize..
[Thunderbolt General] Makaveli1490:
I read a more recent update of this last night I believe

They contacted HTC and if this update dont come the 30th, it's coming very soon
[Thunderbolt General] BoulderGeek:
HTC != VZW

Whatever HTC says, they don't push the software, the carrier does.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
all i want is a new stable radio that fixes the signal & reboot issues and i think that's all we will get on the 30th.... gingerbread will come when it's ready.
[Thunderbolt General] plambda:
Agreed - I think MR2 or some variant of it comes out in a few days - GB will be end of summer timeframe.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
in all my years on android ive never seen a brick unless it came from a radio or the RUU. never heard of any rom alone bricking a phone.

apparently htc put out a 2nd revision of the thunderbolt because that's what my hardware says. might also explain why most of us have never bricked.

BUT to be safe i put full insurance on my Tbolt in case.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
i think by the end of summer sounds about right.
[Thunderbolt General] knothead:
Mytouch4g's have bad chipsets that make bricks...real ones at that.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
yes a bad nand chip could fail and cause a brick too. just haven't seen it before except on the touch vogue. mostly from excessive flashing.
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
Have you ever seen (or even heard) of any customer having a HW version 1 TB? I suspect it went to version 2 during development, before any were sold to the public.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
i have no idea as usually a launch day phone would be a 1 and not a 2. was the same for the evo4g and there are 4 revisions of that phone already.
[Thunderbolt General] dirtyfingers:
My HW Version says 0003
[Thunderbolt General] Mustang02:
Mine is as well and I bought it on release day.
[Thunderbolt General] Slack3r:
So does mine, got it about a month ago.

The plot thickens!
[Thunderbolt General] Magicadder:
mine is also HW version 0003... and I was a pre-order...

interesting thing about this is that no matter which radio I flash I don't have any of the "Reboot" issues that others have been reporting.... could the hardware revision be related?

Oh yea... and I'm not holding my breath for an official GB update... if the history of VZW and their updates for other devices ( Fascinate, DX, Eris, etc.. )is closely looked at; we can expect our official GB update much later than the end of this month.

and anyways why complain about an update to GB when we have a multitude of very talented developers whom have already given us GB. Yes, I know we don't have what you would call a completely "Stable" build... but when is ANY software completely stable?

so I say, start enjoying the GB that we have and the wait won't seem so long.
[Thunderbolt General] adstro:
Very interesting...my hardware version is 0002, and I have had nasty reboot issues. I wonder if it is related.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
mines is HW 0002 I rarely get reboots
[Thunderbolt General] LTLFTCer:
Yeah, mine is 0003 and I had many reboots with the 1 radio.
[Thunderbolt General] ilovesoad:
A few people have seen bricks on their devices after flashing kernels and roms, after rebooting out of recovery. Eemc issues seem to make sense, because the guy who bricked on stock as well. Regardless, I have full insurance considering I tinker around a lot, and I flash probably more than I should.
[Thunderbolt General] cstrife999:
Don't think Droid X belongs in there... They listed a date... and they were right.
[Thunderbolt General] robsonline:
The devs say we all have HW 0002. If your running the leaked GB, it changes the HW number to 0003. Not sure why.

It seems like a crap shoot. I have only had my phone for 2 1/2 weeks, but I have never had a reboot that I know of. I rooted my TB after playing with it for about 10 minutes, and then flash MR2 and Gingeritis. Been using it ever since, and never had an issue; HOWEVER, I have full insurance too! :)

Rob
[Thunderbolt General] satseaker:
Ok you bricked in recovery,but you didnt blame the radio,if someone says they wanna flash but are afraid of bricking should just let it be and stay with stock, you said it best anything thing can brick it, my point was stop whining about it either flash our don't.

Posted from my Nokia V560
[Thunderbolt General] jbh00jh:
Have had mine since the first day and have 002 . I have never had a reboot that I can recall. Mine is not rooted and stock.
[Thunderbolt General] MarkMyShark:
Will this make the gingerbread roms better than they already are?
[Thunderbolt General] cuguy:
Hopefully GB ROM based on this update will be bug free. Most likely, it'll depend on the dev.
[Thunderbolt General] jgalan14:
HW0002 no reboot problems just somerimes disconets from 4G and 3g , I had gingerbread on my nexus and I know we should get it by now but it doesn't really bug me much cause I know is not a big update just a few things now when ice cream comes out I will want it if it is a big update
[Thunderbolt General] Cubs2008:
Same and the only reason I've ever had a random reboot was due to kernel issues because I overclock to 1.92GHz.
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
Considering we haven't seen any rom leaks for GB lately I wouldn't get your hopes up for an update on the 30th if it happens I think all of us will be very surprised.
[Thunderbolt General] Psykonate:
Wouldn't there have already been a bit more information leaked out at least if there was going to be anything on the 30th? From my experience, even Verizon starts letting out a little info within a few days.
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
yeah, i was wondering that too. i just hope we get a new radio thursday. but gingerbread would be nice too.
[Thunderbolt General] premise:
From what the verizon rep told me today, we shouldn't expect any updates this week. I emailed htc expressing my disappointment in them and verizon. It haas been 1.5 months since they pushed this update to our phones and broke them. Verizon won't exchange my phone saying that a fix is on the way and htc wants me to ship my phone to them and be without it for over a week. Both of which is unacceptable in my book. I pay my bill every month and all I get is a phone that reboots and powers off 5 times a day
[Thunderbolt General] fixxxer2008:
hmmm... no offense but a member since 2008 and you have 1 reply? naw i fully believe the new radio will be out by or on friday. as far as gingerbread that might be awhile yet.
[Thunderbolt General] patches152:
no problem, just wanted to provide some "forum etiquette" feedback.

my biggest pet peeve since i've gotten into smartphones a few years back has been the amount of misinformation and how eager some people can be to jump to assumptions with little or no information. companies like VZW and HTC have been around long enough that you can look at their track record and sort of know what to expect. don't buy into the rumor mill sites and just remember: no matter what HTC or any other manufacturer says, it's ultimately up to VZW to test, approve and release all hardware AND software. why do you think the xoom tab STILL hasn't gotten it's 4G chipset upgrade?

also, for everyone's info, there haven't been any GB builds sent to the last phase of testing yet so for now we're gonna be getting a froyo MR3, but so far it's been doing alright in testing, if it passes testing cycle should be ending this week or next week, usually around two weeks after that it's posted for download and then eventually pushed to your device, but once it's up you should be able to download and install it.) then we should have it by or around end of july, hopefully sooner rather than later. hope that eases some of the tension and anxiety people are having waiting for.
[Thunderbolt General] BennyJr:
So if this is to come out tomorrow...why havent we gotten a leak.?
[Thunderbolt General] mb02:
Because its not coming tomorrow.
[Thunderbolt General] mallen462:
Booked marked let's see what happens ay the end of this week

sent from my ginger bAMF tbolt follow me @mallen462 s-off ! looking for Google+ invite please pm me
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
Blah black blah. Chill out. Even IF a GB (or any update for that matter) were supposed to come out tomorrow, we all know how verizon likes to delay EVERYTHING.

Its been my experience with any android device on verizon that when an update is rumored for a certain date, you'll be waiting a few more months for it, or you simply won't get it (eris). Just chill and flash a rom. If your too scared to flash a gb rom, then be patient.

I personally don't want to flash a gb rom. I know the bricks probably aren't caused by GB, but I don't want to take that chance, so I wait patiently.

No sense in getting all worked up over this. I personally don't believe anything that isn't put out by verizon (maybe a few exceptions, but those are people I trust). Now everyone wait, and smoke em if you got em

Sent from my stock HTC Thunderbolt using Swype
[Thunderbolt General] microdot:
No part of me believes that we are actually getting GB tomorrow but for some reason i know ill still check my system updates tonight at 12 and go: "damn, i knew it wasnt going to be there, why did i check" :)
[Thunderbolt General] Slack3r:
I think the end result of this thread is either going to be something like the MR2 is officially released, and/or a lot of people are going to be pissed at Verizon and HTC for nothing. :p
[Thunderbolt General] Eurasianman:
After MR1 was supposedly released, I still never got it regardless of checking for it on my phone (in a way, I'm glad i didn't). Then I heard MR2 was released. Once again, never got a notification about it on my phone. So, I guess it's safe to say that I've personally given up on the whole updates for this phone. But on the plus side, I've been running the stock ROM that came with the phone the day I bought it and it's been great. No real issues at all other than text messages. But I only get problems with my text messages when I don't clear them out and I have over 800 (inbox/outbox) in my SMS folder.
[Thunderbolt General] andydumi:
I think Slack3e nailed it above.

My sister who has been having reboot issues talked to them yesterday demanding they give her another phone. She has had her original and 2 refurbs all with reboot issues.

So two different people gave her a spiel that an update to fix the reboots is coming before the end of June. And for her to wait one more week and see, and if not they would get her a different phone.

So I think if anything we will see a small radio fix again rather than anything big. That said, I am excited for her to get a Charge or Revolution so I can check it out.
[Thunderbolt General] plambda:
Agreed - I think tomorrow if anything is just MR2 pushed OTA.
[Thunderbolt General] xNitebreedx:
HTC had said a while ago that Gingerbread would be released by end of Q2 (which is tomorrow). That being said, VZ probably just delayed it (like they delay everything else). MR2 OTA is probably what's coming.....too bad because I'm sure the dev's would love to have a complete RUU to work with to help with their porting of Sense 3.0 onto TB.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
I cant wait for tomorrow

to get my money in my direct deposit
[Thunderbolt General] madAdam6LOVE:
Software Update has been unavailable for me all evening. Wonder if something's cooking on the Verizon servers. Anyone else getting the "service unavailable" message when checking software update?
[Thunderbolt General] Headshots4life:
Just checked and I get the no update available message.
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
Did you guys ever think that the update might not be available right a midnight, if its even coming? And don't they usually send updates out in phases?

Sent from my stock HTC Thunderbolt using Swype
[Thunderbolt General] JBO1018:
Exactly. It doesn't work like that. They usually do a soak test first, make sure everything is on the up and up, and then begin pushing the update in phases I believe. It doesn't just turn on at midnight like a free week of HBO from your cable provider.

Edit: Not that I even believe that the update that is coming soon will be GB.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] crazed_z06:
People are actually holding out for this?

Wasnt it decided that it's fake?
[Thunderbolt General] coliny59:
Even if just the radio was being released tomorrow, wouldn't Verizon at least put out a bulletin on their offial website?
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
It's verizon. Your lucky you get an email when your bill is due lol

Sent from my stock HTC Thunderbolt using Swype
[Thunderbolt General] happimeal:
Still wondering why everyone is still waiting for the official GB update when the one we already have available is more than will ever be officially available, BAMF w/sense 3.0 for example.

I know it's Alpha and all but it's pretty damn good and comes with more than the official release will anyways, and I know it has some bugs, but how many official releases also have bugs.
[Thunderbolt General] Psykonate:
I finally gave up this week. There were some days where my phone would barely get back on from on reboot and start another. Other times I wouldn't see a reboot for days at a time.

But the biggest thing was that all the things promised to us when we purchased the phone, have not been delivered on. The only thing VZW successfully did was to make the phone worse than we bought them.

So, I said screw it and rooted my phone and couldn't be happier. I have net flix, a smooth rom, no reboots, and all kinds of fun toys to play with. I was nervous at first but it was fairly easy if you follow the directions. Even rooted my wife's Charge today and she is happy as can be with it.

Verizon will always be too little too late, the dev's on here are always a few leaps ahead of them.
[Thunderbolt General] Classick206:
I'll be pissed if this happens when I just rooted my phone like two weeks ago. >:|
[Thunderbolt General] vdChild:
why would you be pissed? i guarantee a day or two after official release we'll have a better rom off the ruu
[Thunderbolt General] Psykonate:
I can't ever see going back to unrooted. I don't see a reason why? The Dev's on here will take what is given to us and make it even better! More than likely, we already have better with what we already have than what Verizon will ever give to us.

I seen root, it scared me, I clinched my teeth and went through it, I came out smiling and will never look back!
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
I'm sure the devs at verizon are very talented and could pump out updates a hell of a lot faster than they do, but they have so much protocol they have to follow, god knows how much testing, and so much company politics to deal with that they aren't able to. Just something to think about.

Sent from my stock HTC Thunderbolt using Swype
[Thunderbolt General] abn75:
Omg!!??@?!?!!?@!? It's the 30th!?@??!?!!??! Where is my update??!?!?!? Lol

sent from my bolt
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
HAH!	I was waiting for that. At least you were just joking. Can't wait to see the sheeple start complaining.

Sent from my stock HTC Thunderbolt using Swype
[Thunderbolt General] abn75:
sent from my bolt
[Thunderbolt General] dopediculous:
Look at the screen shot pic. It's in an editing program. If this were real, I'd think the person that took it would have taken a pic of the site. Not whatever that is. I can't think of the name. I'm tired and who cares. Like someone else said, that's why we have developers :)

Gingeritis fool! :)!

4Geezy ON DopeDiculous's ROOTED TBeezy!
[Thunderbolt General] MrHawaii:
Welcome to the dark side! (Which is the better side :) )
[Thunderbolt General] rjackson23:
Where is the update
[Thunderbolt General] animez:
I think the update was suppose to come today, Tango needed to be updated this morning and one of the reasons listed was to fix issues with the Thunderbolt (as well as other phones) on 2.3.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Thunderbolt General] abn75:
OMG!?!?!??? I HAZ GB?!?!?!?????? Wait....... I have had GB for a while.

sent from my bolt
[Thunderbolt General] eraursls1984:
I get an email every month about my bill, then another email within 2 to 3 days, and sometimes even a third before its due.
[Thunderbolt General] dbow32:
Yes with bugs! I ran GingerREMIX 2.1 for a few days. My phone ran HOT and the battery would only last 2-3 hours even if I didn't use it. I Know that if Verizon puts out a OTA of GB most of the major bugs will be fixed. I want GB 2.3.4 and I'm tired of waiting. Flashing different ROM'S is fun, and I do like checking out new things. But I get sick of always flashing my phone and having to set it up every time. I'm ready for a OTA now!
[Thunderbolt General] abn75:
I have no bugs. My phone is perfectly stable, and I get great battery life. On average 10 to 12 hours a day on the stock battery, 6 to 7 with heavy 4g usage. Every feature i try or use works. And the only time my phone gets close to hot is when I'm doing something data intensive while on the charger

sent from my bolt
[Thunderbolt General] scottthreet32:
Tomorrow is now today checked 5am no dice on update....northen ca.blowing smoke up one's backside just intensifies the whole situation.......
[Thunderbolt General] Eurasianman:
Oh noes! It's June 30th and no update! Oh well, my phone is stable on the stock ROM since I never got the previous update(s) (apparently, I didn't miss anything :rolleyes:)
[Thunderbolt General] the kid escobar:
I just got an update!

On my Rom
[Thunderbolt General] vinnyjr:
As a leading carrier promising the user of this new phone all kinds of things which all either have serious bugs or some just are not there I would think they would be a little more vocal and upfront about when or if this mysterious update is coming. I left T-Mobile and the Sensation to take advantage of their all data plan and the Thunderbolt. I owned the Thunderbolt when it first came out but sent it back due bugs I just could not put up with. Use the phone for work and needed a dependable device. I waited until the 30th hoping and praying the update would be coming. Today is the 30th and well let's just say it isn't looking good. I still have the Sensation, great phone with knock down data speeds. Live in both a very fast HSPA+ and LTE area, I just want to get grandfathered on the Verizon plan and from the looks of T-Mobile, it isn't long for this market. Too bad, IMO they have the best phones and plans. Sorry for the venting and crying but just hoping Verizon pulls thru. :confused: :confused:
[Thunderbolt General] TheLoonyRebel:
http://twitter.com/#!/VZWSupport/status/86427671441059841

Well... looks like my "out in August" prediction might come true.
[Thunderbolt General] Dnakaman:
Hoping Verizon pulls thru? When did Verizon ever say they were releasing an update that they were going to push on the 30th of June?

Nowhere on their site do they ever mention an update being pushed today, let alone a GB update. As a matter of fact, on their community forums, they even said that there is no planned update today.

I've been with other carriers as well (was with TMO for 15 years) and I hate to tell you this, but if you own an android device, no matter what carrier, you are going to have issues. Just ask anyone who owned a Galaxy S phone.

The update will happen when it happens. As most of the devs here have said, don't expect it too soon (I would tend to believe the hand that feeds you).

This is just my opinion and I know it frustrating to expect something and not get it. But don't believe everything you read on the internet. If everything were true, it would mean that aliens have taken over our world and we are all just pawns in their human buffet. :)
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
Problem is... VERIZON didn't make any official public statement saying an update was coming today...

Someone claiming to have "inside information" submitted the info to a blog or two who ran with it, without confirming from another source first.. once it was on one blog site, others picked it up and ran with it too, citing back to the original article, and again, not getting confirmation or a 2nd source.

It is the BLOG sites who ran this "story" that we should be mad at because there is no update today. (except those very very few who were smart enough in their story to note that this is a rumor and they haven't been able to confirm)

We should only be mad at Verizon for the fact that the TB has some major bugs that haven't been fixed yet, and for the snails pace they are taking to approve/announce/push the next update for the TB. We can also be mad at HTC for their allowing these bugs when the phone went to market, and in the ROMs they've given to Verizon, along with their slow progress getting an acceptable update to Verizon.
[Thunderbolt General] orkillakilla:
Verizon said the update it's coming tomorrow and is gb!!

(now lets see another mass retarded hysteria...)

(for the idiots out there, that was a joke)

Sent from my stock HTC Thunderbolt using Swype
[Thunderbolt General] androidfann00b:
An update would be nice... but these "inside" information with regards to the Thunderbolt have had a bad track record when it comes to dates. We can only hope for more good things to come.
[Thunderbolt General] Mustang302LX:
LMAO +100 for that thanks for the laugh!
[Thunderbolt General] happimeal:
Ill say it again,

We already have Gingerbread with Sense 3.0 as a bonus, something HTC nor Verizon is going to supply with there Gingerbread update.
[Thunderbolt General] androidaddict23:
Just had an update but no gingerbread.now begins the continuous wait
[Thunderbolt General] Sweeny Russ:
That's nice but two words: skype, gtalk. I have a beautiful face that I want to show to all the people I know. And tango is a bag of ****.
[Thunderbolt General] happimeal:
ok, ill give you skype, but pretty sure we have gtalk, dont know anyone else with it yet, but it's part of my bamf sense 3.0 rom.
[Thunderbolt General] Sweeny Russ:
For you to say this, you obviously haven't used it. Ha Ha, its worse than tango in its current form.