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[Galaxy S I9000 General] midas5:
Hi,

We would like to make a idiot proof ROM upgrade method.

Too many people are, for example, accidentally upgrading P9000 ROM onto I9000.

That will brick a phone.

My suggesting is this.

Set phone to usb debugging mode.

Have a single tool that automatically does the following (unfortunately, only possible on a rooted phone):

1) Uses adb to backup the bml1 and bml3 boot loaders. (Might as well backup efs also and check the user has root. If a user cannot get root, they really should not be flashing their ROM in the first place. Some method to automatically check if the phone is "network locked" might help. Can you do things like *#06# from the adb command line?)

2) Do a checksum on the bml1 and bml3 backups to identify which boot loader is actually on the device, and therefore identify the device. I.e. I9000 or P9000.

3) Check the USB ID of the phone is correct.

4) Double checks that the boot loader files provided by the user are compatible.

5) Automatically use adb to switch the phone into download mode

6) Flash only a compatible bootloader.

If a new ROM is published with a new boot loader, prevent the user from using it, until developers upgrade HEIMDALL one-click to recognize the new boot loader.

Have another tool, that does similar, but that will never flash the bootloader. Instead it uses the files provided by the user to flash only the rest of the phone, and never the bootloaders.

So long as the boot loaders are not touched, even if boot loaders are in the user provided file, the user can always recover using the 301K JIG.

Another thing to consider is the PIT. Have the tool implement a feature to read the PIT from the phone and if the PIT provided by the user is the same, automatically do not re-partition.

If the PIT needs changing, only flash the PIT and with the bootloader tool (described above).

This will ensure the user can still reach Download mode, even though the user will have to flash an ROM to be able to boot the phone into Android after that. But the important bit is that the phone will not become a Brick.

Of the current PIT files, I don't think any of them wipe the BML1 and BML3 boot partitions.

They only modify the size of the system and data partitions.

The main way to make all this "safe" is to separate the "repartitioning and installing boot loaders" from the "ROM install".

"ROM install without PIT and bootloaders" is 100% safe, installing boot loaders and PIT is the risky bit, so provide a tool that does it safely.

Maybe include a good boot.bin and Sbl.bin with the safe bootloader tool.

What do people think?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AdamOutler:
I'm working with Benjamin Dobell, the developer of Heimdall. There will be several features in the first release..

The specs on the .9A release planned features are:

Open source - everyone can contribute

Java app- Cross platform, One download handles all major platforms

One Click Packaging-Developer can add in their PIT, PBL, SBL, Kernel, Modem and FactoryFS(ROM) by dropping files into the zip

Heimdall included-installed automatically for the platform the user is running

User Awareness-User must check "flash bootloader" and they must be "sure they want to do this" which will make it a 3 click operation

The 1.0 release will include more features. I'll make sure to point Benjamin to this thread.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] 1tontomato:
it would be awesome to see this fly :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AdamOutler:
It's good to hear that...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vdubguy:
I cannot wait to see this! I am an Ubuntu user with Windows 7 only for Odin. Would love to have a reason not to use Windows.....ever.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AdamOutler:
As somewhat of a trial run, I branched this project into "One-Click UnBrick". This installs heimdall and will execute the close-pc-screen command. I am still working on it. The main problem is Win7 drivers. Distributing them in a one-click manner is tough. I've already worked around win7 UAC, registry, filesystem issues, and VC++ issues. The last problem is to figure out how to get the drivers to install for a Gadget device.
[HTC Incredible S] ADUBZ:
Hey Guys

- I have a Bell HTC Incredible S - NextG compatible (purchased from MobiCity)

- Running Android 2.2.1

- S-OFF'd with alpharevx

- Rooted with SuperOneClick

As the title says I am stuck on the clockworkmod part, I have tried using ROM Manager and installing it that way but it either says "The application superuser has stopped unexpectedly" or gives me the error "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands". Its doing my head in, any help would be greatly appreciated as I would love to load custom roms.

Thanks
[HTC Incredible S] bbutlerau:
you should flash the recovery using fastboot not rom manager.

Rom manager is pretty useless for this phone as it is best to use a modded CWM with ext4 support
[HTC Incredible S] P.Pan:
god advise!
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
This is because of the superuser app ... did u use the normal SOC or the patched one from madmax88's thread?

If u used the patched version ... then open the superuser app and clear the rom manager entry ... open romanager and try again ... and when the superuser popup appears ... select allow ... it will work ...
[HTC Incredible S] ADUBZ:
Thanks mate worked a treat, your help was much appreciated :).
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
Ur welcome bro :)
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
I took delivery of my UK Xoom 3G on 2 May 2011 and fell in love with it. I knew it had bugs but I still loved it because love is blind.

I knew updates would come....I had a Google Experience Device so I just knew I wouldn't be left with a crippled device, so I kept on loving it.

Then 3.1 was released in the US. EXCELLENT I thought, in a couple of weeks we in the UK would also be shown some love by the mighty Motorola. It never came.

Other devices came late to the party and were given these mysterious software updates, my friends mocked me and my wife pleaded with me to get an iPad which would show me the same amount of love as I would give it, but I kept faith...I loved my Xoom you see.

Its now June 19th and Motorola have abandoned me, they refuse to talk to me and refuse to love me back, my poor beautifully built Xoom sits there happily force closing at every opportunity and I sit here pondering how my investment so full of promise has become a mere missed opportunity. How sad....Some relationships aren't meant to be and I for one will now be looking for a divorce. Bye Moto, I hope you can live with yourself :confused:

Sent from my Motorola Xoom 3G (now on Ebay)
[Xoom General] oaz1:
I have a bit the same feelings like you...! I like my xoom really, but it piss me off that the NEW update policy of google only works in US well! Thats unfair, and this is one point why i would go to apple! Yes i have a lot of rules and things what i CANT do but i get allways software updates, for the next 2years / generations. And everyone gets the updates at the same time...!

And to Moto, Motorola should push google to deliver more update or make it like samsung to update apps over the market!!

For me at the moment, it was my first Moto device and the last one, maybee the last android...
[Xoom General] csseale:
I hoped you signed the petition floating around in here!!
[Xoom General] zone23:
Hay can you send it too me I would love to have a second Xoom. I see your selling it, oh well. Sounded like you should throw it in the garbage as bad as it is.

Edit:

My device works perfect I rarely if ever get FCs. My ***** is LTE. I understand that I am one of the very, very few whos device works perfectly. I don't know maybe its the user.
[Xoom General] Stealyourface:
You're also in the US. Where we got the 3.1 update. So ours is working better than theirs.
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
I have indeed signed the petition (74th signature) on there. Lets hope it makes a difference although I fear it won't
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
Yes mate spot on its me the user who is at fault, I also take responsibility for the unfinished OS Google allowed to be released and the lack of any updates outside of the US ruining my experience with this device! All my fault :rolleyes:
[Xoom General] csseale:
But at least they SEE
[Xoom General] zone23:
I knew you were going to take it that way because that's how people think. I was referring to me overclocking, unlocking and rooting. Having a device that I can play with and not one locked down. Thats what I mean by the user.

Let me ask you this:

Do you have an Android phone?
[Xoom General] zone23:
Let me also add this:

If you would have said that you were going to a Transformer or a HTC View then I would have thought it was the device. Instead you said a iPad which means its the operating system and using the device that you don't like. Maybe your Xoom is defective. Did you try getting it replaced?
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
Yes I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and its amazing. I also had a Dell Streak 5 and a Galaxy Tab (original) so am very used to the Android OS. I did not say I was getting an Ipad, I said my missus wants me to get one because she feels its the best available 10" finished tablet solution at the moment....

I have considered the Asus Transformer but I need 3G and a 3G version is not available yet. The Galaxy 10.1 is also not yet available in the UK. I do not feel confident rooting and installing custom ROM's and to be honest I shouldn't have to go down this route to get a working product, especially one which cost me £580
[Xoom General] zone23:
Ya it sucks that other country versions of the Xoom suck so bad that is lame. We don't do apple in our house as a matter of fact we don't even speak of it. Also I did not root to fix problems I root so I can overclock and backup my device. So basically you bring that baby home turn it on and its FC city, wow.
[Xoom General] tonyb15re:
If you like your Xoom so much why havent you done what lots of others have done, Root it and Load the US Version, I have to say though its still not perfect.. There are no good Office apps out there so its far from being capable of being used for business. Facebook App force closes quite regularly, the mail app looks a bit mickey mouse and basic. What I wouldnt give for Thunderbird and Open Office on it!!!..
[Xoom General] gogol:
Non-US Xoom is not Google Experience device, thats what I read in many Xoom forum posts. So, thats why you dont get update directly from Google. I read from Moto forums that it will be updated in couple of months.

Granted, thats not good enough. Couple of months is way too long.
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
If i'd known on the 2nd May that it's wasn't a GED and updates would be this slow, I probably wouldn't have purchased it. I don't think anyone knew at that point!

People keep telling me to root and flash US ROM, but as well as losing my 3g and voiding my warranty, I'm not sure I want to risk it and why should I?

Sent from my Xoom 3G
[Xoom General] UKseagull:
I'd be tempted to mention your dissatisfaction on the Motorola Facebook page too. Perhaps a little naming and shaming will push them a little harder, other than that, it may give other prospective European customers a little insight into the current support situation?

http://www.facebook.com/motorolaeurope
[Xoom General] PaulGG:
hey you guys I just popped in here from the transformer forum, I would think that google is not at fault with OTA updates only the state of 3.1 at the moment. my transformer was on 3.0 when it arrived on the first of June, and an update was available straight away. Ordered in the UK and shipped to spain. Same with my desire HD quickly updated to gingerbread. Its a Moto Thing.

Just glad Asus have gone down the same route as HTC, Great design and features just need the bugs in honeycomb ironing out now.
[Xoom General] mickgeorge:
Just done mine this afternoon. Now on 3.1 with SD card support and 3G. Like you say though, shame I had to void my warranty in order to get a working device....
[Xoom General] Crimso:
It really is a shame that moto has gone down this route of misleading its customers. I have owned a few android devices over the past 2 years from different manufacturers ; however the Xoom is my first device from moto and will most definitely be the last one from them.

The only reason that the US Xoom has gotten the 3.1 update (which isn't perfect, but addresses many of the 3.0 glitches) is because its backed by Google (GED)

Many many people outside the US have bought the Xoom fully expecting it to be a GED and rightfully so. Seems that once moto got their money the relationship was promptly ended.

I'm not sure if this applies to you, but over here, the Xoom does NOT come with the Google logo on the back.. this seems to be the indicator as to whether or not its a GE.
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
What I really need is a simple step by step guide to rooting, flashing the US ROM and get my 3g working. Sounds a lot to ask but if anyone can help I would be really grateful and might convince me to keep it.

I've looked at some of the threads in the development section but they are a little complicated to follow

Sent from my Xoom 3G
[Xoom General] okantomi:
@mickgeorge, maybe you can point others in the direction of what you did to install US ROM, update and root. There are a lot of guides out there, but you did it, so maybe you can help.
[Xoom General] syanide:
I had no idea that the US Xoom was different than the UK one. I had actually planned on getting one this week (was trying to decide between 3g one on contract or just getting the wifi one outright) but after reading here that you need to void the warranty on it just to install a rom that makes it useable then I think I may hang on for the UK release of the Samsung 10.1.

I was so excited about getting a Xoom this week... :(

andyiacovou, I'd love to know your thoughts on the Xoom if/when you root it and stick the US rom on it. Would love to see if it then becomes everything you hoped it would be.
[Xoom General] huzz:
WOW

I wonder how big a brick you folks will **** when I tell you I am in Dubai with a Wifi Xoom thats updated to Timat Rom and back to Stock 3.1 (rooted and over clocked). Mind you I even access all the apps.

Seriously guys this was never meant to be an iPad just to check your email and browse. If you want to use it as an alternative to your current laptop or heck do anything more than checking the weather then you have to get down and dirty.

I mean your whining on XDA how much further do you really need to go to get on 3.1 and fix your ****?

Sad.
[Xoom General] icecreammm:
Yeah, I've got a UK Xoom with HC 3.1 and a custom Kernel, but It's a shame that we have to void waranty to get wat we paid for. If my Xoom gets broken and I send it then I'll problably get my device back without a repairment.

The device is nice, but the price is not right if there is no after sales support.
[Xoom General] mickgeorge:
See http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14893657&postcount=133 might help a bit
[Xoom General] mickgeorge:
With respect, a lot of people have bought these devices expecting them to work, and they're not all as techy or confident enough to rip them apart / rebuild them; they shouldn't have to get "down and dirty" in order to get the SD card working, or to get an OS that doesn't crash on a regular basis. Yes, some of the posts may come across as whiney, but that doesn't mean they're not valid.
[Xoom General] zone23:
I'm sorry that your UK Xoom sucks. In reading this thread you make it sound like "they all suck" and its not true. I ran the Xoom stock for MONTHS and did not have FCs with every turn of the page like you describe. The internet is full of complainers so yes when you bring a complaint its going to attract other complainers like a magnet. For everyone one of you I would bet that their are a 1,000 who are happy. You took care of it your own way - sell it on ebay. Thats great problem solved but don't think for a second that EVERY Xoom available today was like yours because I'm telling you mine is nothing like that. The ONLY thing I need is LTE hardware from Motorola period.

Also I bet 10% of REGULAR Xoom owners don't even know it has a SDCard slot.
[Xoom General] andyiacovou:
Thanks for the information, I'm sure it will help someone.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I purchased the USA Xoom 3G on March 24th and until the 3.1 update FC's only happened with a small variety of applications. If you're telling me that every single app force closes on you right away then I'm going to tell you to exchange your Xoom.
[Xoom General] burden010:
I have the UK Wifi only version and though I'm now rooted with 3.1 and Tiamat installed I ran the stock software for months. I had minimal FCs and tbh, eventhough I'm overclocked to 1.4Ghz I'm not noticing a whole lot of difference between what I had and what I have now. It always ran great. Perhaps there's something wrong with the apps you're using?

The main reason I even installed a custom kernel was for access to USB drives.
[Thrive General] linuxtux:
Would like to request a forum for the 10.1 inch Toshiba Thrive (Android) tablet, due to be released in Australia end of this month (June), Mid July US, and August Canada.

Some great features I really like; full sized SD card, USB and HDMI ports, removable back cover.

Reviews:

http://www.blognotes.in/toshiba-thrive-android-tablet-price-specifications-and-review/

http://www.mobile88.com/cellphone/Toshiba/Toshiba-Thrive/video.asp?title=Toshiba Thrive Demo&id=3712

http://www.gadgetsera.com/toshiba-thrive-tablet-pc-review/
[Thrive General] mcarver2000:
Yes, need forum for this tablet. Other forums are currently being hijacked for discussion. Plus, the threads are lost as they are under different tablets/brands.

I too have been excited about the Thrive. Really looking forward to its release.
[Thrive General] hobbiteer:
Toshiba Thrive

This post is to kindly request a sub-forum for the up coming Toshiba Thrive Android Tablet. Or, subsequently scold me for requesting the forum incorrectly.
[Thrive General] 1215kids:
Pretty Please!
[Thrive General] booblik2009:
Yes, please!

Another vote for Thrive-related forum here.
[Thrive General] budney:
A forum for the Thrive would be awesome. I already preordered mine. :)
[Thrive General] drum747:
Must have!!!
[Thrive General] lichbane:
Ditto on that. That's going to be (first) tablet!

EDIT: Correction. It IS my first Tablet. It would be nice to get a forum for it.
[Thrive General] hobbiteer:
still waiting

I had received an email advising it was added to the list o forums to be created. Still waiting for it to spring into existence.
[Thrive General] lichbane:
WOOT!

I'm enjoying it so far. The release in Australia has only come with 3.0.1 and hopefully that will be fixed.

Has it been released anywhere else yet?
[Thrive General] hobbiteer:
Japan had some released. But most release dates were pushed back so they could have 3.1 loaded on I was reading
[Thrive General] drum747:
Where's the love? This is an awesome tablet with the best connectivity of anything on the market.
[Thrive General] epakrat75:
I too would like to see a Thrive forum. It may boil down to having moderators, etc to cover said forum. However, I see that the LG G-Slate (no interest) never got any love either it would seem to me.
[Thrive General] sasidhar79:
we need it please.
[Thrive General] lidc1y5:
Just ordered mine from newegg and overnight delivery. Can not wait
[Thrive General] jpinks:
Yes please as it has at least in theory the connectivity I want and need hopefully without issues :)
[Thrive General] mazlo:
I would also like to see a sub-forum for the Thrive.
[Thrive General] Capt.D:
ADD me to the list as well....
[Thrive General] cwguy:
I would like to see a Thrive forum also.

Thank you
[Thrive General] misfeasor:
I'm really surprised this device doesn't have a sub-forum yet. I'm sure there's enough interest in it.
[Thrive General] hobbiteer:
Yeah, from what I'm getting in my feedback, adding new sub-forums is a bit tighter than it has been in the past year. Mostly due to XDA being a free forum and they keep getting a huge amount of new members monthly. Even ust for the devices they already have.

So, they are evaluating the process. Last thing anybody wants is dead servers. Or a sub-forum that just sits there with no updates.
[Thrive General] tq745:
given that there's only a handful of tablets out right now i'm sure XDA doesn't have to worry about the Thrive taking up dead space. So cmon XDA we need a Thrive forum!
[Thrive General] :
Here's another +1 for the forum, I didn't see this thread, so I started my own. I'm guessing no one is listening? :(
[Thrive General] californiarailroader:
Add me to the list.
[Thrive General] dalepl:
+1 for a Thrive sub. I got mine yesterday and so far so good.
[Thrive General] nuke3ae:
+1 We need a dedicated forum so we can work on getting root
[Thrive General] Bdunkin:
+1 I've been playing with mine for a couple of days now...... time to get it rooted
[Thrive General] lichbane:
+1 for AT100 lovin'
[Thrive General] dalepl:
Add me to the list... The Thrive needs a sub on XDA... Please...
[Thrive General] hobbiteer:
I'm just a little stuck. I don't know who I need to pm to get this party started. I've bugged the forum admin Mike Channon and he's not the person. If anybody else knows who is in charge of creating sub-forums, I would ask that they pm me with the info, or pm the person directly and reference this thread.
[Thrive General] Droid2Froyo:
I agree, I have one on the way, and would like a forum for tips, hacking, and general information on how to get the most out of my new tablet! (Already own a AT&T Galaxy Tab)
[Thrive General] Natolx:
It appears that our bootloader is unlocked from the factory as well(Fastboot works without any unlock command) Should make development simpler.
[Thrive General] MarkWF1:
I'll add myself to the request list for the Thrive, just got my baby over the weekend.. Though I'm never here for long, I've been lurking on and off for quite some time now and if your not Gods your my hero's non the less. ;-)

Thanks guys for all you do..

Yours through the screen

MarkWF1 :cool:
[Thrive General] qipengart:
This awesome swell device just hit Best Buy this last week.
[Thrive General] GuitarrassDeAmor:
Also requesting this forum! Thanks!
[Thrive General] jscat1:
Yes, please add a thrive sub-forum.
[Thrive General] mknewman:
I just got mine and would like to see a forum here as well.
[Thrive General] mingkee:
I had a hand-on and found Thrive will be a right tablet for me, so a dedicated forum will be nice.
[Thrive General] williambs:
Add me to the list, Thrive is on the way...we need a forum!
[Thrive General] merimobiles:
I too Looking for a dedicated toshiba thrive forum

Excited about the new tablet player toshiba... Looking for a dedicated forum for the new toshiba thrive which comes with android 3.2 pre loaded...

by

merimobiles.com
[Thrive General] ezmang:
+1 for me as well, I got it a couple days ago and am loving it.
[Thrive General] tggl:
+1 for me also. Got mine from Amazon on 7/12/11. Would greatly appreciate a dedicated forum for the Thrive at xda.
[Thrive General] Udown4CiervS:
I would also like to see a sub-forum for the thrive
[Thrive General] lorokl:
+1 for Thrive forum
[Thrive General] theHAGGIS:
+1, add another to the heap.

+1, add another to the heap.
[Thrive General] sprinttp2:
Toshiba Thrive

Please add me to the list.
[Thrive General] macheteZen:
Thrive is here and an awesome Dev device. Just need some XDA support for a tablet that is screaming for root and ROM's. Please XDA PLEASE!!!:D
[Thrive General] animejay:
Yes Please!!

That would make me very happy.
[Thrive General] williambs:
Please folks.....lets start a Thrive forum and share :-)
[Thrive General] o>c:
One more vote here

Mods do you hear us?
[Thrive General] o>c:
Yeah we need a sub for this beast!
[Thrive General] californiarailroader:
I am really surprised to see there STILL isn't a forum for the Thrive on here, come on guys! Try Thrive Forums out, I've been hanging out there and it's an EXCELLENT site! It has a large following and a lot of good posts already.

http://www.thriveforums.org/
[Thrive General] williambs:
Please! Let us have a forum devs for support of our Thrives.