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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
Oh I understand gunther. I do think that when the radios and recovery were posted most of us felt that s-off would be released within a few hours. I think it increased anxiety quite a bit. I'm just happy its near.

~ sent from (almost rooted) HTC DInc2 ~
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pinakaeus:
I'm pretty sure that it'll be out within a week ...hopefully...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Boogersugar83:
Asking for a eta is not the proper think to do at this time. As many devs and other people have had to write before sit tight. It will be here before you know it.

sent from a phone without root.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
Think of it this way:

Once it is released, you'll have perm root, recovery, and an overclocked kernel! No waiting around for them. :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
After all of this I'll probably brick my phone :eek:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] billquinn1:
At some point you should post or blog your experience with the testing process you've gone through. I'd like to hear what you've been able to do since you got s-off. We appreciate your guinea piggy.....nes.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
Been able to do what you'd expect. Removed bloat. I tested wifi-tether, it's working. Tested jcase's overclocked kernel. Works great.

Nothing too amazing. No ROMs at this point.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SoCalSpecialist:
so if ur running it with no problems..and all seems to be ok, i dont quite understand whats prolonging the release.

i mean im sure theres some sort of logical reasoning behind it, I just dont know it lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
Because the alpharev developers are tying up loose ends for their entire project's official release, and they probably don't have the time to incorporate the inc2 into beta. Devices, other than the ones supported in open-beta, have been tested and confirmed working as well, but not incorporated either.

The devs didn't send me a link to download, or anything easy like that. It was done manually, by the developer, through remote SSH.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cvo515:
Damn...sweet news. I get to root my ladys inc2 soon!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] melgibson666:
What kind of overclock are you getting and could you run linpack please? :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
1.65ghz max. Smooth as butter.

I don't use linpack...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] melgibson666:
Nice. And oh ok what benchmark would you prefer? Cause I wanna see the difference before and after, if you could.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
25% increase from stock in Quadrant. Multiple tests.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thenickisme:
Is it destroying your battery though? (Uptime - just to clarify, not actual battery lifespan.)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] melgibson666:
Ooh 25%? That's a nice increase. Definitely gunna notice it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
I'm just as worried about destroying my processor..
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
The Cortex A8 (what this processor closely emulates) was rated to go as high as 1ghz. Since this is not a Cortex A8 and is rather similar to it, Qualcomm can have different tolerances. Since this does include a new GPU core, it's possible the process (the design of the hardware of the CPU) has changed enough to allow for higher clock speeds than the Cortex A8 is rated for.

Considering this is out around the same time as the Cortex A9, which is rated up to 2ghz from ARM, it's very possible this CPU can go that high, but I wouldn't count on it. Chances are, this is going to be reserved for the dual core snapdragon.

Qualcomm doesn't give information on what the SOC is rated at, just what it's released as. Of course, Cortex is a CPU core, not a SOC, so looking at an equivalent, such as TI's OMAP3, you would get the same information.

Okay, this is getting a bit long now.

There is a version of this SOC from Qualcomm designed to run at 1.4ghz. It doesn't appear to be much different other than the higher clock speed so I suspect this CPU will do the same without problems. In short, I'd call 1.4ghz a safe overclock speed. Beyond that, I can't say what is safe. The next step up is a new SOC generation running dual core with clock speeds between 1.2ghz and 1.5ghz, then a 4th generation with a redesigned dual/quad core SOC (from scorpion to krait, rated upwards to 2.5ghz).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Sweeny Russ:
The main thing is these SD's are pushed out like graham crackers, and you will have good batches and weak batches. You will know pretty quickly what yours can handle as it over heats and reboots the phone. Did a lot of stress tests on my thunderbolt and haven't smoked it yet. Got a incredible 2 coming today can't wait to try and make it catch fire before I give it to my fiance.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] LowFire82:
What about those that want to go the CLI way, and learn and see what goes on as we go, instead of having an executable do it all for us?

I'm sure there is discussion about all of it in an IRC, but I don't get that option where I am right now...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] billquinn1:
One of the AlphaRev devs would need to speak to this but I think it is a situation close to the unrevoked way of thinking. I don't think they want the exact exploit out there where it could be patched.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
I'm not sure if people missed the news, but HTC doesn't plan to lock the bootloader anymore. This is not why they are protecting the method, at this point.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
I notice a little bit more battery drain, but it's very minimal.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] xgunther:
They still have not announced if it is indeed retroactive.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sk0t:
But they have announced that some currently released devices will likely have the bootloader unlocked. Last I saw, they were evaluating parameters for it, but which devices would be unlocked weren't yet known.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] alterself:
correct, I had even emailed them and asked them the exact question just about a week ago, that that is exactly what they said. basically, a giant MAYBE.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
They've announced at least one retroactive unlock and the possibility of others. However, should there not be a retroactive unlock, I don't see them maintaining the lock code beyond what it is now other than to fix defects that affect the function of the device.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CannibalAngel:
It was my understanding that unlocking the bootloaders is largely up to the carriers and not the manufactures (due to being able to install apps that circumvent features that the carriers want you to pay for like tethering). The manufactures need to keep the carriers happy so they keep selling there phones which is why it would be up to the carriers.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
I think Verizon backed off of their hard stance:

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-news/149989-verizon-will-allow-unlocked-bootloaders.html
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CannibalAngel:
Thanks! Didn't see that. It isn't 100% saying that they will allow HTC to ship phones with unlocked bootloaders but it seems promising!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Shorte85:
I know this is probably a silly question, but because incredible and incredible 2 are pretty much the same phone except for a few different features and etc. can we still use one of the roms made for the incredible on the incredible 2 or do we have to wait til there are roms made for this particular phone?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
I never had an Inc but I was under the impression that they weren't similar at all?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jesand83:
I believe that Shorte was trying to compare the Incredible S and the Incredible 2, which share a number of similarities. Otherwise you're right the original DInc and the Dinc2 have practically zero in common.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
Do you mean Incredible S vs Incredible 2 or actually Incredible vs Incredible 2?

Incredible vs Incredible 2:

They are very different. Porting would be about the same process as porting from one device to another different device, which is to say it would require a bit of work.

Incredible S vs Incredible 2:

They are similar enough to make porting easy.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradleyz:
So, what's the news? Any updates in the rooting process! Been waiting all week for this phone, now that I have it, I need to do away with all this heavy bloatware!

sent from my HTC Droid Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] 4GivenByChrist:
If you have Titanium Backup or a bloat freezer you can use the temp root method here - freeze the apps. Perm root is yet to be released, but we hope it will be soon.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1068544
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chris.riley:
Hboot

Anyone know how to upgrade the HBOOT... I have 97. ????
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TB13:
I don't think its possible without s-off.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradleyz:
Patients will just hafta do this time. I've got my eye on AlphaRevX for their release. I don't like the idea of just freezing them, I figure actually removing them will unleash this beast. :) Not to mention I hate sense. I'm a sucker for AOSP!:P

sent from my HTC Droid Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chris.riley:
HBoot

Thats my problem is that I cant s-off because my HBoot is 97. I need to upgrade to 1.09 or 13.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Clutch McWinner:
Read back on the first page. Already asked and answered.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14915851&postcount=8
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TB13:
You just have to wait like the rest of us for AlphaRev to decide they have tortured us enough and release their public s-off tool.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradsinram:
Edit: nevermind
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chris.riley:
I have tried their web based s-off app and all it ever tells me is my device is not supported. I started my rooting exploration with the G1 a while back ago. I have no problem donating money to development / developers that work. I am hopefully they will release a public app soon.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] capcoward:
mommy, daddy, are we there yet?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TB13:
Almost honey. Just try to be patient...;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dch921:
But I really have to S-Off I can't hold it

Sent from my Xoom using my Xoom
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] maqsur:
I thought you were using protection! :eek:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tuner_racer:
I am but it broke!

sent from an almost unrootable phone phone
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Wendie:
The wait is torture!!! But I am so thrilled we have all these wonderful people taking care of us and showing the incredible 2 some love...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradleyz:
Waiting for this is as excruciating as waiting on this phone for the past week.

sent from my incarcerated Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradleyz:
Dear HTC,

Please, I beg you. Let our people go!

sent from my incarcerated Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ozzynyc:
Give us root or give us...hmm...out of choices....not gonna give up my Inc 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Vaporsilver:
This is awesome news as the wife just got an Incredible 2; I can't wait to get all the bloatware off of it!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] InkedRoughNeck:
Were all getting antsy. What's the latest word from ALPHAREV? If anyone has contact info to those guys ask em for an updaye on when theyll roll out the new beta. Pretty crazy its working. Works well. We have goodies waiting n they just wont Release to the public . How come? I know ( don't ask for eta's) but damn it's been a good while. can we just get a word on whatsup with that?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ieftm:
We have lots of stuff to do for our second beta. How come, how come?? Please don't mind me saying you're sounding like a spoilt little child.

The proof of concept was posted July 21st. How's that a 'good while' ?

Anyway, grow up.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] InkedRoughNeck:
About a week seems like a pretty good while. Please don't mind me ssaying you sound like a complete jackass. Don't insult the Guy asking what's on everyone else's mind.

We DO appreciate the work involved. Were all anxiously awaiting the beta. Yes the guys involved in Putting this together are extreemly talented but dont come off like a ****. Thank you ...;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nachobass25:
Woah woah, let's keep it civil. First and foremost we have to thank alpharev for the good work, anyone who plans on rooting their Dinc2 owes them a huge debt.

That said, its easy to understand why people are getting impatient. Were already seeing ROMs and kernels and everyone wants a piece. In other words, the condom is already on, so were aching to get down to the dirty business.

So with that, alpharev, without asking for an eta, is it possible just to give us a status check just to throw us hungry dogs a bone?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Boogersugar83:
I don't understand why once a week people get there panties in a bunch about waiting for alpharev. They are not being paid for this its all in there free time. Be glad someone has figured it out. relax it will be out before you know. Please stop fighting over the this forum space that's not what its for.

sent from a phone without root.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ieftm:
If you don't want to wait, fine. Don't. We're not forcing you to use our software in any way. I'll speak my mind on what I think since you're directing this at my team.

I don't know if you appreciate the work put in by us/me, it sure did not sound like that. This has been stated numerous times, dinc2 will be supported in the next beta. When that is? When it's done. Why the delay? Because we're adding in features that take time.

We like to give solutions to the community. If you're anxious, go take it out on HTC. Not us.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Flappyraccoon:
Indeed, I too get excited about reading the content of new posts each day and instead of finding useful information I see full grown adults acting like children with a royalty complex. If you want it that bad learn to do it yourself. If I have patiently waited since the phones release and root believed impossible, you can wait a couple months with a solution in sight.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
What people don't realize is that you are going this second beta for other phones two correct? And the features will provide us with an easier way to root correct?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ieftm:
Saga/Marvel/Dinc2 is planned, so three phones for the second beta.

And yes, we're both making the process itself more robust (provide better feedback on what failed instead of just crashing), as well as trying to integrate features like recovery flashing. These things take up a lot of time. And yeah, we're fully employed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dch921:
I am eagerly awaiting s-off like everyone else and Alpharev team has invested lots of time into their software so its understandable they want everything to be right and working. If this was something I was doing I wouldn't want to release an unfinished product.

We all know it will be released when they feel its ready. I like everyone else just hopes that's sooner then later but I know it will be worth the wait.

Keep up the good work Alpharev.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sk0t:
ieftm, I look forward to your team releasing the tool, but I can certainly wait until you are willing to release it. Patience is truly a virtue. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ACD168:
This really makes me sad that someone from the Alpharev had to come in here and stand up for themselves because of ungrateful people. grow up guys. they are doing us a HUGE favor by even adding our phone to the second beta let alone at ALL. They aren't getting paid, they are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts and to provide this community with their amazing software. If you want root sooner than what these amazing talented guys are providing for us, DO IT YOURSELF AND STOP *****ING ABOUT WHEN IT'S COMING. It makes the entire DINC2 community look bad.

TO THE ALPHREV TEAM - THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHERS ALIKE. I HOPE THIS POST WILL SHOW THAT NOT EVERYONE IN HERE ARE ARROGANT JERKS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS FOR FREE, AND I FOR ONE AM SINCERELY GRATEFUL FOR YOU GUYS ADDING US TO THE NEXT BETA.

I JUST HOPE THIS POST MAKES IT TO THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TIME IS NEEDED AND DEDICATION THAT THESE GREAT PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR US, AGAIN ILL SAY IT JUST SO IT SINKS IN DEEP - FOR FREE!

Please if you are able show the Alpha team how much we respect them and are lucky enough to have them working on our phone by giving a little donation. Little things go along way.

Thank you guys.

Peace and Love,

Andrew.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Boogersugar83:
I agree I donated about 2 weeks ago. I'm still waiting and I'm ok with that.

sent from a phone without root.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Lagos3sgte:
Keep up the great work guys, and just ignore the few immature people on here. We really do respect what you guys are doing for the community and can't wait to root our phones!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] isdnmatt:
I also donated about a week ago with no expectations on timeline. I'm just truly grateful that they even dedicate their time to this. Thanks for your time guys, the amount of entitlement from the few stupid posters makes me sick.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradleyz:
I only posted for a comedic , break in this(for me I've only been waiting 24 hours) wait for permRoot. To be completely honest I'd wait two months, than brick the device I just got, with some faulty software just thrown out there. @AlphaRev team: you hold the key to our freedom, I thank you for the time in sweat invested into our future enjoyment. Thank you!

sent from my incarcerated Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ltredbeard:
just curious...

when this is released ( im also happy waiting as long as needed, just thankful for the devs) will there be instructions to preform via adb?

on the thunderbolt jcase asked for everyone to wait on publishing an "ez-root" which is probably the only reason I was able to learn adb. Long story short I was hoping to root via adb...

Thanks for all the hard work guys!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
I just want to add, thanks for all the hard work, and in the immortal words of Homer Simpson:

"The waiting game sucks. Let's play hungry hungry hippos."

:-)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jcase:
Reason I wanted ppl to wait, and still do, is because there was no true easy alternative. The automated ones were just our long process in a script more or less, and just were not reliable.

Trust in alpharevx.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Bob-o:
In Alpharevx we trust....

Sent from my Dinc2.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kingsway8605:
By the time they release it HTC will have patched the exploit they are using. I am starting to think that root was never achieved and there just some video wizardry going on.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
What would they gain from doing that?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nachobass25:
not accusing or suggesting anything, but simply to answer your question honestly, it would be a pretty tricky way to poole donations :P

i really dont think thats whats going on tho. (or at least i really hope not lol)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Boogersugar83:
They s-offed xgunthers phone already. What is not to beleave.

sent from a phone without root.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] isdnmatt:
You must not come around XDA very often. I've had nothing but good experiences donating to developers.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nachobass25:
please re-read the part of my reply that states "not accusing or suggesting". I was simply stating it as a remote possibility in response to an earlier posed question. please dont try to make it out like i'm accusing any devs of gauging for donations.

EDIT: not that i need to defend myself, but for further proof, look through my earlier posts to see all the praise i've given AlphaRevX for their good work. I will be donating as soon as i'm financially able (next pay-check), and again once the S-OFF is released.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
Yeah but I don't think that at all. I was impatient at first but I see that they are adding several devices to the same release, so it's probably not even the inc2 they are still working on it's probably a different device. Whatever, it will be out soon I hope.

I needed to get familiar with adb and fastboot anyway...lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] InkedRoughNeck:
OK. Now that everyone has their panties in a bunch I was just asking if anyone knew why and what the status was of them not releasing. Makes me out to b a **** when all I was doing was asking the question on MOST everyone else's mind. Yeah OK "I'm an ungrateful asshole asking when when when WHEN " read my post it was a mater of yes were antsy how come they havent released the beta. I wasn't aware there were two other devices on it and ive been following since I got my DInc 2. Fact is I asked the questions on everyone else mind ans got a rather rude response with I felt wasnt justified. Weather your a dev or not you give a someone attitude you'll get it in return. In know way shape or form was I attacking anyone from the alpha rev team nor will I

As I mentioned before I and countless otherness DO appreciate what there doing. I will however ask tthe question what's up with the roll out? And expect not to get slaughteredfor it. I do plan on donating always have and do for the devs... I don't however appreciate people sucking up and saying what a ungrateful prick I am for asking the question strait forward and to the point. Anywho. Thanks again for the work you all do but once again I feel the need to defend myself because someone got pissy. Were all humans I hold no angst. So why do you. Calm down relax and enjoy the show.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ltredbeard:
Maybe im just odd, but I've grown to really enjoy adb and programing in general.

I dont have a programing background, but i purchased a few java books and been studying IBM's intro to java. I'm very hands on, but I'm grateful for the full root no matter what way the devs decide to publish.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mountaineerndixie:
I understood, Nacho. You were merely giving an example of why someone would even try to claim to have done it when they really hadn't. That was in response to my question and I appreciate that, although I know you weren't accusing. You got caught up in a hypothetical....sorry.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nachobass25:
no worries man, thanks for understanding.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ozzynyc:
Well said...we'll wait. Much appreciated...just please post some sort of update on the status. Even if it takes another 2 weeks, it's better to know that than have false expectations...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Everyone take a deep breath
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kingsway8605:
Amazing tricks can be done with video. If they had a way to root they would have released it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Boogersugar83:
They are working on the release of a new beta that will add 3 more devices including the Dinc2. relax bro its real.

sent from a phone soon to have root!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] capcoward:
Chill dude they already have roms, it is clearly real. I dont get why everyone puts so much pressure on devs that do all this **** pro bono. We've been without root for so long, we can stand another week or two.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Lagos3sgte:
If you want it to be released faster, then get to hacking. I expect YOU to release a rooted version by the end of today! Good luck.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
... you're an idiot.