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[Epic 4G General] Original Android <3ers!:
DEVS! Would it be possible to use a FroYo Kernel for CM7 like the Droid X Developers did?

DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!

As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.

Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.

They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.

4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.

From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).

Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.

Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.

And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.

Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.

I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.

People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...

While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.
[Epic 4G General] Original Android <3ers!:
There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
In other news....

I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.

With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
And queue take 3... omfg, when will people learn, this is not to debate ETA.
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
really not allowed to talk about that? Since when can someone else take away my free speech rights to ask when something is gonna to be released? If you dont want to answer a question for eta then just dont reply to it. After all no one is making you reply to anything.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
If you HAVE NOTHING TO SHARE DONT POST IN DEVELOPMENT.
[Epic 4G General] Original Android <3ers!:
I'm trying to be honest with you and save you from being flamed. Did you even read the first post? The devs don't have the kernel source for the Epic 2.3.3 or beyond, nor do they have it for the Nexus S 4G, so until then, they have to stop developing because they cannot do ANYTHING without it. So an answer to an ETA is never.
[Epic 4G General] Original Android <3ers!:
I think this would be a good idea while we wait for the Kernel source actually...
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
nullghost mentioned that CM6 would be in the same state as CM 7. Idk why, but yea.
[Epic 4G General] Original Android <3ers!:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
No.
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.

We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.

We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.

If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.

Why?

Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.

In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.

That's that.
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
The reason being? I dont get how theres source for 2.2 and we cant get CM6, how would 2.3 source help us get CM7 working?

And I got my answer while typing because of Deca. Thnx!
[Epic 4G General] Original Android <3ers!:
So you don't like me?
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
I don't mind you, your motives are good, but this environment fosters redundant and pointless poo flingin'. Which usually leads to us responding with the same information, over and over.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Great way to lose another Dev.

Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.

Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Developers tend to support developers.
[Epic 4G General] Decad3nce:
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[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I remember this. He is sweating like crazy.
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
well it is only never according to you..

you see their could be someone else out their who saw this posting asking about a release date and then that person says that he is also working on something like this and informs us of what he is doing or planning on doing. I myself never take never for an answer. To me when someone says never i consider it a challenge.... the only thing i can not do is give birth as i am male.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
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[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
Have you asked Samsung or SamsungJohn for the kernel bits you need? I heard supercurio signed a nda to talk to Yamaha in detail.
[Epic 4G General] Shadomastr:
Hey anyone know what steps I should take to go frm cm7 back to stock? I was looking at going to ef02 specifically. I figure I odin and such (which looks to be an arduous process). I can't seem to make a backup in cwm though I remember reading that this is a problem with cm7 on the epic. Can anyone confirm?
[Epic 4G General] sauron0101:
He ... likes developers. :D
[Epic 4G General] professoroak:
Twitter updates from @TeamEpicCM7 via github ;) glad to see more progress!
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Eta pls?
[Epic 4G General] WhiteWidows:
Mod pls ban this troll?
[Epic 4G General] jeffyv2:
Ding ding ding
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
This is sad. CM7 isn't gonna happen anymore till it actually happens (which will probably not be anytime soon, they quit). No use to have a thread about it. Your just asking for flamage. ETA's weren't the problem, it was the off balance thread discussion about things that weren't relevant to the topic that closed the thread down.

Sorry dude, you tried.
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Where's ur source of them quitting cuz they have been updating via twitter
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
They're waiting on Gingerbread Kernel source. It is wholly different from the froyo kernel. They are definitely still going to be working on it.

Without the GB kernel source they can't do much. The nexus s 4g is a lot more similar to the GSM nexus s than it is similar to our phone, so just wait.

edit: fixed quote. sry, Esteway
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Yes I know this, the guy I quoted was say that the quit so I wanted to know who or where did he hear that from.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Hit the wrong quote button, sorry. :p
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
you broke a 35 day silence for this? relaz.

no woman no cry, right mon!?!
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Lol. Ohh haha its cool ;D
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
Hey guys, I'm just curious about a few things. I'm not a developer, I just love flashing custom roms (since the g1 days). Can't wait to get CM7 or at least an AOSP type gingerbread rom on the Epic.

Which would be more useful?

Kernel source code or gingerbread source code

Is any kernel source code (eclair, froyo, gingerbread) available for the Epic or the Nexus S 4G?
[Epic 4G General] danherbert:
If you look at the Github updates that triggered their twitter posts, although the commits appear to be recent, the actual work was done over a month ago.

I'm not sure what happened to cause Twitter to be flooded with EpicCM updates the other day, but it doesn't look like any new code was written in that case.

I don't have any source to point to that says the devs quit, but it looks like they're, at the very least, on hold until Samsung releases Gingerbread source for the Epic.

From the sound of it, there would be a lot of wasted effort to move forward without it.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
holy crap there isnt even a horse left to beat anymore. people just can't accept the fact that development is at a standstill till source. you can say it any amount of ways you can think of but people keep makign these damn threads. and for th4e dude that never takes "never" for an answer... that doesn't do us much good if you cant code. typical middle management type
[Epic 4G General] Willieumm:
For everyone looking for an ETA, I have a rough estimate for you. NEVER! At least not until you get a new phone, cuz it will never happen on your Epics.
[Epic 4G General] mykie242:
So what's the ETA?
[Epic 4G General] amirite:
Yet another thread ruined. Remove that horrible green 'DEVS!' message from the OP. You're basically pushing the ETA question by even asking that.

I am sure the devs know about whatever DroidX kernel trick you're talking about. We need Samsung's source for that. We need Samsung's source for that. WE NEED SAMSUNG'S SOURCE FOR THAT.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Current ETA: No additional updates available until after the source for 2.3.3 is released by Samsung/Sprint for the Epic

See, now that wasn't so hard was it? ;)

Or you can always check HERE for the latest updates....
[Epic 4G General] mykie242:
We just need source, right? :D
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
no we need sauce... that's the confusion. no CM7 till sauce
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
Already had to close a similar thread a few days ago...this one will go the same way if it's just filled with trolling crap...
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
So when will 4g work as the nexus a 4g is an epic minus the keyboard
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
We've been through the "no asking for ETA's" thing waaaaaay too many times for you to be asking.

Not to mention the dozens of other people who have asked about the Nexus S4g source being used for the Epic.
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
First of HAHAHAHA DCROcks!!! Love it!!! Ok people get this and I am NOT a dev. or anything of the sort. I just enjoy learning and trouble shooting this isn't rocket science. I think the OP says it all!!! Some of us just want to be informed with out going to github and trying to figure it out. Keep this in mind it takes M$ and Apple to come out with a new OS or even a update years and millions of dollars with a lot of people working it. Not sure how many devs are on CM7 but I am pretty sure they are not getting 6 figures for what they are doing in there spare time to try and give us the best Epic experience in a fairly short period of time. So if they say NO ETA's respect that and don't be a ball buster or a wise ass about it! I work with dev's what they do is nothing short of amazing and I respect them just wish they would stop monkeying up there computers so I have to fix them. So stop you are going to ruin it for a lot of people who just want to be informed. I hope the people that are saying never are wrong because I have only seen CM on other devices I have never experienced it myself and really would like to so please keep up the good work dev's.
[Epic 4G General] Art2Fly:
It does not matter that the nexus s 4g does not have a keyboard because those drivers are built into android itself, it has nothing to do with the phone.
[Epic 4G General] Xhyperion:
Why cyanogen
[Epic 4G General] Art2Fly:
Cyanogen is called an AOSP Rom. It sticks true to the original code from google, while adding root support and other things like overclock and more customizeable settings... it will make the epic not only faster, but better in almost every way... same goes for other AOSP Roms such as miui...
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
It wouldn't matter if the Nexus S4G had a rocket engine and hadron collider, the source is of absolutely no use to the developers at this point. As they've said many,many,many,many times they need the Gingerbread kernel source for the Epic to continue.
[Epic 4G General] Art2Fly:
Yes, that too.
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Yes what he said. This has Bernstein said like 1millon time already.
[Epic 4G General] belovedson:
this thread is humorous

hahahaha. sauce. the constant trolling. i am beginning to enjoy this.

i think the simple solution for eta requests is simple ignore. i really don't see the purpose of the ban when the people actually reading through the thread links are people who already know the finer details.

the people who simply ask for eta's. wait for a response no matter what. it's selfish. but who cares. simply give them the same answer or ignore them

thanks to all the devs for the hard work. i personally believe you guys deserves breaks because well its your time your investing to help people like me free of charge.
[Epic 4G General] nullghost:
If we had anything to tell you, don't you think we would? We really don't need any of you to take it upon yourselves to create threads like this to boost your post count.

Now would all of you kindly SHUT THE HELL UP and go find something productive to do?
[Epic 4G General] Wizard Knight:
I rarely comment other than to ask rom questions or report bugs... but I just wanted to say thank you. you're like my XDA God. Every time you post something, it's so worth reading. Something that's becoming more and more rare.

keep up the good work with CM. if you need a beta or alpha tester for anything you're ever working on (not just CM), feel free to PM me, my epic is at your disposal
[Epic 4G General] :
I honestly don't care about my post count. As you can see, I haven't posted in this Thread in a while. I made it because I myself want to keep up with the development and want to see where it's going. Honestly lol. I'm like, everyone else, I'm just waiting on CM7. But, keep up the good work.
[Epic 4G General] Phasma343:
And everyone in the conference started clapping in fear of having a chair thrown at them.
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
So when will 4g be working
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
Never it has been taken away from you :D
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Plz don't feed the troll. He's asked this question before I don't think he understands what "don't ask for ETA" means
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Somebody thank this man profusely.
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
So then when will others get 4g
[Epic 4G General] daddy_droid:
Eta is existing total alotment
[Epic 4G General] Etrick:
4g is available at http://www.zombo.com
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jrome86:
Hey I tried updating my Viewonic g Tablet with a different version of TnT lite. It will turn on for a couple seconds and then turn off so it will not boot. I do have clockworkmod recovery but no back up. I am having trouble getting my computer to pick up the SD card when entered into the SD card slot on my computer for some reason. I tried doing a factory reset but that did not work. Is there any way around this? Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] pronghornrunner:
Just installed the newest release of Swype, beta 3.0, on my CM 7.0.3. The predictive is vastly improved. But, there is some significant lag on the entries sometimes. Going to sere if that improves with a couple of reboots.

How is everyone else doing with it and on what roms?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] Stoney 666:
Tells me I have an invalid license on miui. I've been a beta tester since their first sign ups... their customer service sux cuz I have emailed them about this a few times with no reply.

Sent from my Bad Seed Customs themed XDA app!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] RMarkwald:
Yeah, I couldn't get it to work with MIUI at all.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] parkschr:
Does the 3.0 have a mic?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] tiny4579:
Mic doesn't work for me. I see a blue outline like when something in Swype is broken when I try to use it. However, the improvements to me are worth the upgrade. It has a better word selector, more similar to stock/sense keyboard.

Worked fine on CM7 and Synergy for me. I always restore data for the installer from ROM to ROM. I think that preserves the license correctly. I also ran it fine on Hybrid Sense 3.0 as well.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] Epicardium:
I'm really not liking some aspects of it.

1. Before, it would pop up a list of word possibilities and I could hit the little x if I didn't like any of the choices. Now, I have to delete the word manually to give it another try. Takes longer.

2. I like the single-click correction, but it causes grief sometimes. For example, if I know I want to insert a letter or apostrophe into a word, I click on the word and the cursor immediately jumps to the end, and then I have to click again in the position where I want to insert, or use the track pad. Again, takes longer and sometimes it jumps to the end of the word a second time. Very annoying.

3. I don't like having to touch a new word twice to store it. Much rather have the previous implementation where I just manually typed the word and it was forever memorized.

Some things are nicer, like being able to use predictive text when typing each letter, but overall I think I'd like to revert to the previous addition. I'll give it a few more days.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] nate.mcbride:
I like so far, like that when I'm writing a weird word, like a product number I'm googling, it does not get stored. also the fact that I always get the word selector, sometimes I it annoyed me that it would not pop up on common words with similar trace lines as non common.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] rocketj:
So far so good for me. In previous versions after a reboot Swype stopped working and I had to re select it to get it to work. I haven't had this problem with V3.0

Microphone is also working well now.

Running on Optimized Shift now with no problems.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] pronghornrunner:
Mic has been fine for me. I used it to type this post.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] BenHolliday:
Experienced same thing. Uninstalled and and ran the installer which installed 3.0. After new install it worked for a day or two until it said Beta Expired so had to generate new code but took just about 10 seconds.

The backspace is a real pain in the butt when the predictive text is incorrect and for those of us who have a foul mouth in text with our friends, it likes to replace a certain F word with duck no matter how many times I add the F word.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] crazyg0od33:
any way to get the predictive bar to stay there all the time so it doesnt snap the keyboard up/down ALL the time?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] BenHolliday:
It stays in landscape, vanished in vertical.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] rfarrah:
FWIW, it seems to be working great for me on MIUI. I do have to admit the jumping up and down with the predictive bar gets annoying.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] XideXL:
My predictive bar is always on top of the keyboard, just blank inbetween words, not sure what everyone is talking about regarding the jumping around *shrug*.

I love the new word choice style. I used to always tap the bottom word when trying to go to the second page of choices and now that mistake has been eliminated. While it does lessen screen real estate a little, it also doesn't cover what you're typing, the webpage you're on, etc which is nice.

I also love that I have the choice to add words after typing them rather than being automatic. Before, captcha phrases, words like aaaaaahhh!, etc were always added and got in the way sometimes.

The automatic correction is okay for typing but it annoyed me that I had to confirm my choice when I swyped or else if I moved the cursor somewhere else to add a word in, the cursor would go back to the end and replace the last word instead. I just turned the auto correct option off and everything is perfect for my tastes!

As for the person upset about losing one touch delete/undo for wrong words via the 'x' button, if you tap the swype key it highlights the word behind your cursor and you can swype over it with a new word, which is pretty close, it just involves one more tap to delete if you don't want any word there at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SIGITY:
Just picked up my TF today, updated to 3.1

I have a main router at my house and two bridged repeaters (dd-wrt) sending the signal everywhere so I have coverage. Here is the strange issue:

I can connect via wifi just fine to my main router, but I can't to either repeater. The TF says I am connected, but the wifi symbols stays gray, and doesn't connect to the internet. Other devices connect fine to the routers, even my droid 2 global has no issues.

Anyone else experiencing anything like this? Strangest wifi bug I've ever experienced, i'm stumped.

I've tried the following:

Channel Changes

Open security

Router Reboots

Any advice would be appreciated!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dan-htc-touch:
just tried connecting to my dd-wrt for the first time reading your post, and it worked fine... I am running prime 1.4 if that happens to have anything to do with it.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] botzl:
Have you tried static IP on your TF?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SIGITY:
A repeater? Or direct router?

I have tried static ip, no avail.