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[HTC EVO 3D] donatom3:
@murusmaximus

Unfortunately you get lots of people in this forum who think you're a fanboy of something else if you give your opinion against the phone they own or are going to own. This is partly their fault and partly the fault of actual trolls who come spewing venom just to get people riled up. Also everyone is a bit more touchy now because of the mixed reviews. Haven't you noticed that people are only calling the good reviews unbiased and any critical review is from an Apple fanboy site? Personally I'm getting tired of the attitude people are having here with that. If you want to give your good opinions about something you should be ready to hear out the bad opinions too. As for your original posts you actual bring up points and reasons as to why you would not want to get it, and that is good since you can actual spark a conversation where we can actually answer your opinions, and maybe either give you some new facts you didn't have before, show you things from a different perspective, or maybe see things differently ourselves. I think this is where most of the people who replied to you failed, where they had the opportunity to have a discussion with you or ignore the thread and move on they decided to start flaming you. Now if after someone makes the point to try to discuss it with you and you start ignoring what they wrote that's a different matter.

The main reason I was hesitant at first myself was because of Sense, but after watching Sense 3.0 videos I'm kind of interested in seeing what HTC did this time around. I love CyanogenMod myself and think stock Android is the way to go, but HTC does have some very good things in sense that means there are a lot less widgets and apps I have to install to replicate those features.

As for your reason about Call quality and battery life, I figure I got 30 days to try it out myself in my area under my conditions. This is the only important battery life test I need since it's the only one relevant to me. I'm the kind of user who rarely gets the rated battery life out of his products so I prefer not to trust what a reviewer got and instead worry about how it compares to what I normally get.

While the Photon looks like a great choice I am not too impressed with Tegra 2 so far. I think in actual use MSM8660 will show Tegra 2's age. As for the SGSII noone even knows what chip will be in the US ones. I'm reading rumors all over the place, but the one thing I know for certain is that AMOLED while looking pretty is over saturated, represents colors incorrectly, and more importantly it's going to be an 800x480 resolution screen.

As for the 3D I do agree this is not the reason I'm buying the phone. The two camera design isn't the best looking on the back, and I can definitely see the Johnny 5 reference. I would have preferred this was a 2D phone with 16gb of internal storage, but who knows the 3D could end up being great. After playing with a 3DS I was impressed at how well glasses free 3D worked, and thought it'd be cool to take pics in 3d and show them to my friends.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Well as long as you shared it behind closed doors, I guess you have a point...you may not have to worry about jail time if you're into that sort of thing. On the other hand, it still could land you in the hospital.

about the Photon, who knows what could change in a few months from now? They might not lock their phones down forever....http://www.nzweek.com/technology/motorola-will-unlock-bootloader-3573/

I really don't care that you don't care that I'm not getting this phone on launch day. I hope you get all the pleasure out of this phone that your heart desires...and more :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
+1!! That was the feedback I was looking for. Excellent points you make. I want to make it abundantly clear that I never said I was not going to get this phone. All I said is that I was going to wait for a few weeks to see some of the reviews here, as well if any other news comes out on other possible alternatives to this phone.

I would say I'm definitely most interested in the SGS2 other than the e3d at this point. Although, I've never had a samsung phone, and they don't have the best feedback. From the videos I've seen on youtube, it does look pretty bad @ss though. I guess I'll have to wait to see what the specs will be for the sprint version, since it may not even be the same one being sold overseas.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Well thanks for your opinion. Next time make a video. And post a link to the video.
[HTC EVO 3D] donatom3:
I've never owned a Samsung Android phone, but I've owned plenty of their feature phones before. I can say this whole heartedly, Samsung usually makes great hardware, but they fall on their face when it comes to the software. Look at how fast HTC has been to provide updates. Samsung had buggy GPS in their epic for over 4-6 months. Plus I haven't seen great development done on Samsung phones in the past and don't expect that to change much going forward.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Lol this is the negativity I was talking about in my thread. There is no need to try and bash the EVO 3D . Atleast go over the the supersonic forum and boast about how awesome it is. There are tons of phones you won't buy . Make sure to repost this in every new phone section while your at it lol
[HTC EVO 3D] donatom3:
And this is the kind of reply I was just talking about. Are any of his statements not true?

He prefers CM7, to some people that's important.

He's worried about call quality and battery life, and with the reviews written out there that is something that you may have some concern over.

The back of the phone kinda does look like Johnny 5.

Just because you can't handle seeing someone make an opinion that differs from yours doesn't mean it should be censored.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Thanks for the info. I'm definitely going to do my homework if I decide to go the Samsung route. I guess no phone is ever perfect, and development would be something I look for in a phone. Touchwiz does look rather boring. I was impressed to see Samsung give a free SGS2 to a cyanogen developer. I think when HTC said they were going to unlock their bootloaders from now on, it set a precedent for other phone makers to do the same. At least I hope we're headed in that direction.
[HTC EVO 3D] donatom3:
I think the Android manufacturers are starting to realize how important the communities at XDA and some other sites are. When an Asus tech came onto XDA to help people with an issue on the transformer that some were facing and even gave members with the issue the ability to test a firmware early they scored some major points. Between their support, hardware and pricing there is no question in my mind how the Transformer became the second best sold tablet behind the iPad in a matter of months.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Yes, and I applaud all the effort that went into making the manufacturers realize how important this is to so many android users. It's one of many reasons people choose android over iOS. It gives them an edge there I think.

Also, props to ASUS for the help in the forum. I sold my iPad and bought the transformer weeks ago. Couldn't be happier. It really makes the iPad seem like a child's toy. I think flash support is a must on tablets. Combine that with pricing, and it's no wonder the transformer has had this much success.
[HTC EVO 3D] donatom3:
One thing I forgot about was that the MSM8660 in the Evo supports SVDO aka 1x advanced with EVDO simultaneously. This means that once sprint upgrades to 1x advanced, which they are working on, you'd get simultaneous data and voice, so Verizon would have to stop with their commercials. The chip in the HTC thunderbolt supports this and that's why it's the only Verizon phone so far that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G in certain markets.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I was not aware of that...thanks. There have been several occasions when I have been on the phone, then want to look up a restaurant review really quick, only I have to hang up with the person to do it. That is a nice feature from what we currently have.
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
I haven't heard that, source?
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
I think ultimately for the sake of the forum generally we really don't care whether or not you are buying the phone or the reasons you chose not to. Noone started a thread asking that of the op.
[HTC EVO 3D] mario23:
I'm sorry but I don't see the purpose of creating a thread just to say "I won't get this phone". And it does seem to be negativity just for the sake of negativity. Nothing personal but I think this thread should just be deleted.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
I respect your opinion, smart thing to wait and see what Moto and Sammy have in the pipeline. I have the Hero and can't stand the lag anymore so I'm getting the 3D.

Anyways, was it necessary to start a whole new thread to post your opinion? Why not post this as a reply in the 3D vs SGSII thread?
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
If you dont wanna get an evo3d, I really dont think you need a page long post to justify your decision. you wont change any minds. If someone wants it they will get it, if they dont, well good for them. If you dont want the evo 3d it is your choice, we all hate and love things, they dont have to be the same things.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vvlioncourtvv:
Hold on! Sound the alarms! We are all gonna die! This guy is not getting an evo 3d! Naw but seriously dude dont waste our time with pointless posts like this. If you want us to convince u otherwise just ask. dont point out all these lame excuses taken from questionable reviews. Play with the phone urself and form ur own opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
So now you have to get permission to post a thread on your opinion about a phone? Just for future reference, who should I ask if I should post something or not? Is there a moderator or something like that?

Just because you don't agree with my opinion doesn't mean others don't value it.

I'm not sure how many times I've stated this so far in this thread, but nowhere did I say I am absolutely not getting this phone. It still is a pretty solid phone. I'm just not going to camp out at my sprint store friday morning to get it. Maybe in a few weeks after I get some more user feedback on it.
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
There you go
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Its not that people don't agree with your opinion they just don't care.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I'm going to sound like a **** in this reply, but I don't care...you obviously need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Where did I say, "I won't get this phone". All I said is that I'm not getting it on launch day, and will wait for further user feedback since I'm not sold on it 100% just yet.

You advocate a forum where threads are deleted just because of someone's opinion? I didn't even say the phone sucks or anything like that. Maybe XDA should add a Swastika next to their logo.
[HTC EVO 3D] gmfeny:
Lol ummm good
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
That makes perfect logical sense...lol.

If someone agrees with my opinion, obviously they have taken the time to read the post and understand the points which I have brought up, which shows that they actually do care.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Everything you said is understandable but again ...people simply don't care whether you are getting it launch day, a month or year later. That's your business.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vvlioncourtvv:
I 100% agree and second that vote.
[HTC EVO 3D] Harfainx:
It does look like it's capable of this, but it depends on how Sprint decides to implement it.

The chip supports multi-mode, but it doesn't have LTE support, so if Sprint starts enabling that, we will be out of luck on these phones.

http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs

Looks like the next generation of processors will have dual-mode 3G/LTE.

(Same link as above)

Also on the spec sheet for the 8660, it has:

for the modem information.

We'll have to wait and see what Sprint decides to do with the dual-mode modem.

I know my post is off-topic, but I do believe that it's more informative than the topic itself.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I could see your point if all I said was, "Reviews suck, I'm not getting this phone on launch day"...end of thread. However, I think I pointed out some valid reasons on why it might be wise to wait for a few weeks first before using your upgrade on this phone. And I'll say it again...there is a decent chance I will end up with this phone, just not next week.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Wow, I know there are many apple fanboys out there, but maybe Android has their fair share as well. Nowhere did I say the phone absolutely sucks or anything like that. All I said is that I'm not getting it on launch day, and the reasons why. Seems for some if you are not 100% positive about this phone, your voice should be censored. Makes me kinda LOL to be honest.

I think some of you on here are so scared of the possible letdown this phone might be that you don't even want the thought to enter your brain. And believe me, I have the original evo...and actually do hope this phone has great success. I'm just not sold on it yet and will not leap blindly into a contract with a phone I'm not 100% sure about. I was 100% sure when I traded in my iPhone 3GS for the OG evo.

I'll wait for the final verdict in a few weeks.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
The point is you aren't changing anyone's mind here. If that's what u feel is best for you cool....but noone is making a decision from anything you say whether you hate the phone or love it.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
First, my goal wasn't to change anyone's mind. If it was...I would have tilted the post "Why YOU shouldn't get the evo3d on launch day". I was just giving my personal opinion of how I'm feeling about the phone currently.

Second, how do you know I'm not changing anyone's mind? Do you have the magical ability to see what everyone on the forum is thinking about this thread?
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
With the 30 day satisfaction guarantee policy it is really a no lose situation to buy this phone on launch day or shortly thereafter. As we have seen time and time again, user experience differs from person to person and thus the consensus of the masses may not reflect an individuals experience. That said, while I understand some of the points you made, I myself will be getting this phone on launch day to see how it performs for my personal needs. If the phone disappoints (highly unlikely) then I will take it back, get my renewal eligibility reset, and wait for the next best thing to come along.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
OK my last post and I'm not going back and forth. You just said it might be wise to wait before using your upgrade as if you are giving out free advice......

And second how do I know? Just look at the responses you got from this thread. I think that says everything u need to know. Good day to you.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vvlioncourtvv:
This thread is about you a person whom none of us know nor personally care about. Personally I feel all topics posted about whether an individual is getting this phone should be deleted unless you are bringing something new to the table which obviously u have not. So you are just wasting space on this board with this topic. How bout you get the phone in ur hands and form ur own opinion rather than take what the reviewers say as pure fact. You have no clue whether what they were saying holds true or if they were motivated to say what they said for other reasons. You also do not know if these problems will hold true in ur area. It has been said many times that the areas these reviewers are in the signal/connections are not good at all. I'm not trying to be a d*** it just really gets under my skin when someone bases their opinion on what others say rather than their own personal experience. I am getting this phone cause of the specs and the specs alone. If you want to live ur life according to what other people tell you you go right ahead. I'll base mine on a personal experience.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I was going to go that route, but would trade in my evo4g to get the 3D. I don't want to give up my current evo4G until I'm 100% sure about the evo3D. If I did end up turning the phone back in, seems like it would be kind of a hassle, so I will just wait. Good luck though, I hope it all works out...and if it does, I'll have the phone soon enough.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Not free advice, just my opinion. And the reviews that I have gotten in the thread so far have been mixed actually. Some have my same point of view, and some don't.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
The op is hoping others will get a sgs2 so the devs will be there for him.

Sorry but the 3d is awesome and is a worthy upgrade, Devs think so too.
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
I DO want to hear where people (ie the OP) are at in their decision making.

Look, Einstein...all are in evaluation mode, speculation mode, and shopping mode.

It's valuable to hear where people are in that process and why.

He's expressed opinion. I need to hear this stuff.

Perhaps its just a bit much for you to hear the "negativity"?.....just pass the thread by. There's an idea!

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[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
+1 for that.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Lol yeah sorry go find your own amazing devs to work on your plastic Samsung block. E3D all the way!
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
No sgs2 conspiracy here. Just keeping my mind open to different options in case this does not end up being my next phone. I hope there is good dev support on as many phones as possible.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I felt like I was back in 6th grade after reading this post. Thanks for providing the flashback to my childhood. Always a good feeling :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Lol what a creepy reply. I hope this post gets you off almost half as much.

BTW no one cares what phone your not getting lmao
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
There needs to be an IQ test to join XDA methinks.

Can't you deal with someone expressing misgivings about the device on its own merits without attributing to some other (SGS2) agenda?

C'mon be a big boy.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I see I went way over your head on that one...nevermind.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
How bout this.... Go start a thread and name it are you getting the 3d why or why not. Then you can get all the opinions you want.
[HTC EVO 3D] phatmanxxl:
I vote this as the dumbest thread in this forum so far.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I guess next time I start a thread, I'll put a poll up first to ask people what I should name it.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
LOL I was responding to rockky
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
Yes and even better lets make sure.we all PM him to.make sure its OK.

QUOTE=murusmaximus;14851758]I guess next time I start a thread, I'll put a poll up first to ask people what I should name it.[/QUOTE]
[HTC EVO 3D] rockky:
It wouldn't be if we were free to interact with OP without the idiots interrupting with objections to the discussion ...that's what's dumbed it down.

QUOTE=murusmaximus;14851858][/QUOTE]
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
[/QUOTE]

Problem us there is no discussion. He simply named reasons he wasn't getting the phone. No question was asked to be discussed....no opinions asked for about his reasons. He made a blanket statement and that was it. If you don't understand that then sorry.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Note to self...for all future posts make sure:

1.) I get proper permission by conducting a poll on what I should name the title of my post.

2.) Once proper titleage is confirmed. Make sure entire post is all questions, so readers understand we are trying to have a thorough discussion on the topic.

Thanks for the heads up!

Problem us there is no discussion. He simply named reasons he wasn't getting the phone. No question was asked to be discussed....no opinions asked for about his reasons. He made a blanket statement and that was it. If you don't understand that then sorry.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I have two lines currently eligible and I'm also going to wait. One thing I can't stand about my Evo is the ****ty speakerphone. I use it all Tue time while driving and it defeats the purpose of using it if I have to hold it to my face to hear. I know Motorola has a good track record with loud speakers. I think you should wait until late this year or early next year to upgrade.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Bluetooth you cheap ass.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
1.) Bluetooth doesn't justify a ****ty speakerphone. I guess I should just use headphones all the time if my phone has crappy speakers on it.

2.) No need to call someone a cheap ass because they think a speakerphone is sub-par.

I myself don't have a problem with the speakerphone on the evo4g, but then again, I don't use it all that much. May be more important for someone else.
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Nice. The OP has the answer to just about everything, close this thread already hah
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
I figured out how to get people an early upgrade and shared it in a thread. It's gotten over 400 responses and over 25,000 page views. Probably more than you have contributed, and I've only been a member here for about 2 months.
[HTC EVO 3D] mykrlz182:
Wow how is this thread still open? Incredible!
[HTC EVO 3D] Cubfan99:
Wow, congrats. Your mother must be so proud. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] corybucher:
I taught my twin brother how to tie a knot while still in the womb!

Suck it *****, lol
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
She is, thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Impressive. Can you upload that to youtube?
[HTC EVO 3D] AyyRayy:
Lmao cool story bro. Tell this at parties and put it on your resume.
[HTC EVO 3D] Semantics:
Yeah there are about 5000 mods on this site, fortunately, their powers begin and end by only being able to post. I find it humorous that people are going out of their way to reply with nothing useful and say you are wasting their time, when they are wasting their own just by replying with nothing productive to say.

Post when you want, as long as its the correct forum you aren't breaking any rules, and just ignore the trolls. This site went from very helpful and knowledgeable, to a bunch of pimply faced douche bag, typing tough guys.

It always helps to remember that a whole lot of really dumb people own smartphones. Don't let the trolls discourage you, its the internet way, and they act like they are paying for the bandwidth for you to make posts.
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Thanks for the input. Lots of trolls out there, but I'll do my best to ignore them.
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
What I find amazing, is that the people who supposedly don't care, are keeping this thread alive for the past 9 pages already, lol!

This is probably in the top ten most popular (and longest) threads in the EVO 3D forum alone, and it's about NOT getting the phone on launch day! Ironic? I think so.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Bump just because of the last of the last post
[HTC EVO 3D] Androidfreakz:
LoL why do they give us their life story all the time. Jump on the crapton and crapsung if you want. Get what suits you. Please stop the crying. You could of just said ill wait to see what other phones are coming out jeez.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I think the op just found out that he can voice his opinion on the internet and feel the satisfaction that he was heard and feel important.

If u want reasons why you shouldn't buy the phone read reviews.. watch reviews... Or do what most do and buy the phone with the highest stock benchmark. Or there is always a iPhone I'm sure if you tell them your a recovering Android addict they will help you jailbreak the POS

sent from anything but an iPhone
[HTC EVO 3D] Vvlioncourtvv:
The op should definitely get an iphone. Then we wouldn't have to worry bout his senseless post. Also a benefit for the op apple has a limited selection per year 1 maybe 2 if ur lucky. So all in all iphone is the phone best suited for ur needs. Even my dogs can choose between kibble and kibble 3gs
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
BwhahahahahH

sent from anything but an iPhone
[HTC EVO 3D] murusmaximus:
Oh no!!! You brought out the big guns. I should get an iPhone...LOL. That's the best you can come up with? No logical arguments to the points I made?

I should get an iPhone...lol. I feel so defeated now. Some of you XDA peeps are
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Well you are complaining about a phone that hasnt even touched your sweaty fat palms so yeah get a iPhone

sent from anything but an iPhone