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[Atrix 4G General] thegregulator:
I would just like to point out that comparing quadrant scores between two different devices tells you nothing about real world performance. It's a glorified ____ measuring tool used by dweebs. I own an Atrix and have used a GS2, and in all honesty, my Atrix running gingerblur performs everything as smoothly and quickly as the Galaxy S 2. Well I shouldn't say that, there may be minute differences between the two, but nothing that significant. I suppose at some point I may have to wait half a second to open maps... What it should come down to for the OP is what hardware features do you like better, since in the next few months when the bootloader on the Atrix is unlocked and custom roms start flooding in, the phones will be able to run identical software. In my opinion, the bigger battery, fingerprint reader, and webtop trump the hardware features on the GS2. I like the screen on the GS2 better (despite the lower resolution, which I have gotten very used to), but I'm just not a fan of the build quality of the Galaxy.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Bigger battery doesn't mean much when both get equal battery life even though the SGS2 has a smaller battery.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Review_id2728/page/5

62 hours of battery life

40min of wifi, 20 min of gaming, uploaded 3gb of video files for 40 min, music for 40min 30 of which was using the speaker, gps for 15min, recorded hd video for 12min, took 14 pictures with flash, talked for 32min, general usage for 40min, watched hd movies for 1:35 half an hour was streaming the movie via DLNA to a computer.

Fingerprint reader is nice.

The Webtop thing was a great idea poorly implemented. It is sluggish and you can't customize it as of yet.

How can you complain about the build quality of the SGS2? My battery door on my Atrix creaks a lot.

Look at the SGS2 battery door: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA

I am an AV buff, so the better color accuracy and lack of pentiling on the SGS2 in addition to the higher quality Yamaha DAC, though no where near the SGS's DAC with voodoo, for audio will have me making the switch when it comes to AT&T. There are rumors, though, that certain SGS2 models will carry a Wolfson DAC, which voodoo was designed for, for even better audio quality.
[Atrix 4G General] thegregulator:
My battery door doesn't creak at all. I don't like the feel of the Galaxy S2. It's too thin and too light. I suppose I got used to the original Galaxy S (although I did have a case on it to add a bit of weight). I forgot to mention I liked the camera much better on the Galaxy S2 than the Atrix, but the camera on the Atrix is certainly sufficient. I'm not saying the Sammy is a bad phone, because it isn't. In fact, if I were to get anything other than the Atrix, it would definitely be the Samsung. I just feel that with the unlocked bootloader, the Atrix will be able to give me the most bang for my buck in terms of build quality, performance, and usability. I hope that the next generation of high end Android phones don't have screens bigger than 4.3 inches. I was playing with a Samsung Infuse a few weeks ago, and the 4.5 inch screen is too much. It's like carrying a book in your pocket.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Having both of these phones, I very much disagree.

The atrix stock for stock is terrible to use compared with the GSII.

Having said that, i'm super excited about the news of motorola not being as stupid anymore ;)
[Atrix 4G General] Blizzard22:
The Stock Rom of Motorola on Atrix is bad.

Hope we can enjoy better Roms in the future.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
They increased the FPS by 20%.... and its a beta build... im not going to argue with you, I'll just benchmark when gingerbread is released.

I'm not spewing bull****, you still haven't shown us an example where a 4 core gpu/cpu outperforms an 8 core gpu/cpu.

The tegra is a great processor. It runs honeycomb like butter on 10 inch tablets with high resolutions. Clearly the atrix's tegra is not optimized nearly enough as the honeycomb builds, and that will begin to change with the next update.

Flame it all you want, the atrix will reign supreme. Don't bother replying, as I wont be back until the gingerbread update where the atrix will kick monster ass.

News flash: the atrix will be receiving a gingerbread update around the same time the GS2 is released in US. So I'd say thats a moot point.
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
And for good or worse, we've been enjoying our Atrixes for over six months, and they are holding on to a yesteryear smartphone waiting for the SGS2 just to see it fail or underachieve.

By the way, many reviews aren't that good on the SGS2 (poor built construction, cheap materials as usual, bad displays, same old gps problems, etc)

The Atrix will reborn with a vengeance in the next few weeks, so stay tuned!

Rayan
[Atrix 4G General] lyon21:
Look at the zoom quadrant scores... now, put a smaller screen to power and keep the 1.7 overclock they have on it now! Will eat the SGSII alive!

Sent from my rooted, gingerblured badass atrix!
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
I wish ALL phones stayed with 800x480. IMO Qhd blows, and I'm screwing around with increasing the density settings in this phone because of it...
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
IMO benchmark stats are overrated. If the human eye can't tell what's faster then does it really matter?...

(Especially outside forum discussion ;))
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
How does qHD blow?

The density settings of what, the widgets?

The atrix gingerbread update is addressing widget scaling...
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
No, the density settings located in the "system/build.prop"...
[Atrix 4G General] emuneee:
If I was offered the deal, I'd take it in a heartbeat. SGS2 has more developer support, leaked ROMs, arguably better hardware (QHD pentile matrix LCD screen vs. Bigger WVGA samoled+ especially), better software (arguably). Atrix does take it on build quality though.

The Atrix has a lot of potential, but its contingent on Motorola providing an unlocked bootloader which they look to be ready to do.
[Atrix 4G General] JiminSD:
I loved the original Galaxy except the GPS didn't work for along while and when they finally got it working it didn't perfrom nearly as well as the Atrix (I live in Southern Califonia and many factors effect GPS).

How does the new Galaxy work in the GPS department, I am a geologist and it is a feature I like have as back up.
[Atrix 4G General] thegregulator:
In the end it comes down to personal preference. I like a 4 inch screen more than a 4.27 inch screen, although I would prefer the SAMOLED + screen over the qHD display. Another thing I forgot to mention was the GPS on the Atrix is much better than the SGS2, so if you're a big user of GPS like me, that's definitely a factor to consider. I liked my original Galaxy S and I'm sure I'd like the Galaxy S2 even more, but for whatever reason, the Atrix seems just a bit more appealing to me.
[Atrix 4G General] blunted09:
I have had the atrix and I loved it. its a great phone. But it is not in the same class as the sgs2. Honestly, i dont think anything is. You have to use the sgs2 to really understand. Even the screen resolution seem better as i cant see any pixels on the sgs2.

If you can afford the sgs2, then get it.
[Atrix 4G General] rex-tc:
Not in same league? LOL. Where is your webdock, true HDMI port, qHD resolution, 24-bit color, working GPS, nvidia GPU, tegra zone, etc? All you have over us is a oversatured 4.3" low res screen. Congrats! You guys used to have locked bootloader over us, but that is quickly changing through the next update (or even with the devs here at XDA). Also multi-touch screen which we now have through XDA 10-point. 1080p recording we have also now with devs. So what is it you have that is leagues ahead? Not build quality. What is the deal with "IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT" line? Why pay the extra $100-200+ on/off-contract price for SGSII. For the extra $100-200+ you can get a lapdock/atrix and have the better wow factor IMO.
[Atrix 4G General] blunted09:
I never mentioned a locked bootloader.

-tegra is ported(what few good games they have)

-mhl is hdmi only with charging included

-color is better (few will argue that)

-resolution means nothing if you can see pixels, everything is really small and viewing angles are BRUTAL(the one thing that really bugged me about the atrix)

-webtop is nice, but i found i do most of my web surfing with my phone and have a computer if i need more. I would have bought some accessories but they are too pricey in canada

-GPS was my biggest fear hearing the problems from the old SGS but its been flawless

-the build quality is pretty much the same minus the creeking the atrix makes when squeezing it.

-the camera is not as good on the atrix

-the battery on the atrix is the best on a phone though-dont listen to comparisons saying they are the same, the atrix does have a slight advantage especially with the screen on.

Im not saying this to downplay the atrix whatsoever. I told you, i loved the phone but i stand by my original saying of it being in its own league. I have always been an htc guy so im no fanboy of samsung but motorola atrix and sgs2 are the best choices right now.

BTW, dont get so emotional, Im sure people would like to read these types of comparisons-I know i always search forums for hands on.

for the record, you guys have very little dev support, however the devs you do have are the best in the business as far as im concerned.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Since Froyo, GPS had been great on my SGS... (and that includes indoors too)
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
24-bit color that results in poorer color reproduction AND still has banding. It also has worse viewing angles. Tegra zone is a joke. 10 games, 3 are just ports of android games with prettier textures and 2 are card games. I bet those card games really need all that processing power! Build quality is better on the SGS2. Both phones are made from plastic. I'm willing to bet you can't do this with your battery cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA

The Webtop is a great idea horribly implemented. It's pretty much a joke. There's a reason why you can pick up an Atrix for 1cent now on amazon on contract whereas the iPhone 4 is STILL $200. Atrix sales are poor. The screen on the SGS2 is much superior even with the lower resolution since the Atrix uses a pentile display that ruins color reproduction and straight lines. The camera is much better on the SGS2 as well.
[Atrix 4G General] rex-tc:
Where is the proof of POORER color reproduction? 24-bit color > 16-bit color period. Just because you have oversaturated colors, uneven gradiants, yellowing on one side, greys that are way off, bluish tint screens mean yours aren't anywhere near accurate, and banding way beyond any phone in existence. Atrix sales are not poor, there are 4 different variants and it is not released on all cariers, or regions yet. Once the bootloader is unlocked we will see how sales are. Also sales =/= quality... A top of the line GPU/PCs gets a minor fraction of the sales a console would. The weptop is being modded nicely and will only get better with time. I haven't seen any proof that the camera takes better images than the Atrix either. Only fanboys and their megapixel numbers and have no idea what a good camera lense is in the first place. Tegra zone started two months ago and has 15 games (more if you count THD, optimized games). 15 games more than what is on exynos/mali, or ever will be. GOFII, Riptide, SMII, DDII, and upcoming games like Shadowgun (ya that is crap to lol ). I have the Motorola Ruggedized back which is nicer than yours, which on top of that cover the sides of the phone. So if yours gets scratched, scuffed, or broken you have to replace the whole assembly.
[Atrix 4G General] inked4life:
The Nexus 4g is going to Sprint. I've already seen the commercials for it.

The difference or main difference is brand. Motorola comes out of the box ready to be roll but Samsung requires a crap load of modding and flashing to unlock its true hardware's potential. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Unless you never leave the city you are in or close to then you have to do all this work on any Sammy to get a signal in a rural or less populated area. Sammy has a stock crap for software and unless your willing to research everything necessary to made it work to its capabilities then forget it. I sold my Captivate as I didn't have the time needed to do the modding and such. My friend got it and now its a smoking kick ass phone I'd like to have because modem/radio works like it should and everything else is faster and better thanks to the guys on here. I got him to be tell me all he did to it to make it a great phone. He praised all XDA devs and gave you all the credit for the knowledge and tools to help make it possible. Kudoso guys. I pointed him here as I cracked him from iphone and now he's droid for life.
[Atrix 4G General] rex-tc:
I didn't completely agree with you :)
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the SGS2 screen Pentile too?

Regardless...

One other thing that's worth mentioning is that the SGS2 is unjustifiable more expensive than the Atrix at release date.

No way Jose, impossible to justify!

NFC? Now that's a joke. At least on its current state.
[Atrix 4G General] blunted09:
Im not gonna sit here and argue. Im simply telling you how it is. when you own both for some time you will understand. If you havent, your points are absolutely useless. :)
[Atrix 4G General] tjjensen23:
this is a proven fact
[Atrix 4G General] jaybeno:
I actually experience the same issues with my Bell Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] Ronaldo_9:
Nope no Pentile Matrix used in GS2
[Atrix 4G General] Semseddin:
lol, that video taught me the first real advantage of s2 over an atrix. What an advanced battery cover :D
[Atrix 4G General] uppon2:
I think you are either scared to screw with your handset, lazy or are not experienced enough to do so. I have flashed a new ROM while creating this post lol. You don't have the time? I can open heimdall and Flash stock firmware (2 minutes) Flash ROM of choice (5 minutes) Flash update With all of my desired apps and media (1 minute) Set up all my my preferences (2 minutes) - What is that ohh lets see about 10 minutes total to go from ANY firmware to the latest and greatest. If you don't have 10 minutes a week spare to use your phone then perhaps you should not have a smart phone at all as the idea is to use it :) It's fun to flash all the time and to read on the latest way to make your phone better. I think you are making points from when the cappy/fasc/i9000 first came out *laggy* and a bit of a pig. A lot has changed since then. You should stop being lazy. Why you would sell your phone because you can't be bothered screwing with it. This is the world we live in with smart phones mate. Why the crap would you want to buy a phone and keep it how it comes? There are reasons why updates, ROMs and Kernels are created and put in place. If you don't keep moving forwards with the constant updating and maximizing on the potential of your phone you will be left selling all of your phones and purchasing the new latest and greatest just because it is better out of the box.
[Atrix 4G General] vernicex:
actually I think inked4life is right. The Atrix software is solid. I don't really feel like flashing stuff all the time like I did when I had the sgs. I've just had a look at the S2 development forum, and found that most of the "feature" is fixes for the bugs in the official rom, which obviously mean that Atrix is the better choice for the average user :D

now don't tell him to flash the hell out of it to make it better, that choice belong to him, maybe he doesn't bother to flash it, because he have the right to expect a good product without fault for the money he pay, or maybe he's like me, who don't have access to a windows system, which make flashing near impossible :)

in the end, it's up to you guys to choose what you want, if you enjoy tinkering and modding your phones, sgs2 probably is the best way to go for now. otherwise, the atrix is a solid product with no real fault that can make it a deal breaker.

just my 2 pence :D
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Thats nuts, stock vs stock the SGSII blows the Atrix out of the water in terms of usability, speed, and looks.

Blur is a joke, TW4 is actually fairly nice.
[Atrix 4G General] uppon2:
If you don't like to tinker than Android is not being put to full use. It's that simple.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
But you can tinker on both phones... so that point is moot.

And the point about how the atrix stock runs with less bugs still stands.
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
TW4 is a joke, Blur is actually fairly nice.

C WHAT I DID THUR
[Atrix 4G General] aPiso:
2.3.3 Blur is actually splendid *___*

I had to choose between SGS2 and Atrix, I chose the latter in the end, it seemed more versatile to me, meaning you can hard-use it and battery still get to the end of the day (and they say it will be even noticeably better with gingerbread!) and it adapts himself to very different situations thanks to webtop and bla bla bla.

In the end, price difference is too much compared to what the phones are capable of. Atrix is a better deal.

My 50 cents :D
[Atrix 4G General] trp3383:
I just picked up 2 atrix phones off amazons $0.01 sale. Can't beat this phone for a penny! Plus unlocked boot loader and gingerbread around the corner... Just hope AT&T service doesn't suck
[Atrix 4G General] JdgM3NT4L:
I hope you don't live anywhere near my place. AT&T sevice does suck where I am. The best part is that the other carriers suck even more! Here it is either at&t or nothing.

Aaahhhhhhh, life in the sticks...
[Atrix 4G General] CoyotinX:
WTF??

Guys... why are you even still discussing this?

The SGS2 may be about 15% better than Atrix on the overall performance but thats just opinion. We have some FACTS which are much more important and make Atrix better.

1 - Webtop (atrix) against NOTHING NEW (SGS2)

2 - Fingerprint reader (atrix) against NOTHING NEW (SGS2)

3 - Although the sgs2 performs better now, we KNOW that in 6 months from now, the difference will be insignificant. But that innovating hardware on atrix will still be there.

4 - and freaking most important of all.... i just bought them both, i payed 350,00 USD on the Atrix unlocked new and 700,00 USD on the SGS2, which leads me to the conclusion:

WHEN THE SGS2 PERFORMS TWICE THE ATRIX (LIKE ITS PRICE IS), THEN I WILL GET A SGS2.

enough said.

PS (something i like to add since i do like the sgs2 too):

If the sgs2 had digital TV like the brazilian version of SGS ( i live in brazil ) then SGS2 WOULD KICK ASS.
[Atrix 4G General] Jonous:
Exactly, enough said. Price blows every other sgs2 pros away :cool:
[Atrix 4G General] ceo.mtcl:
Agree, and with bootloader unlocked and form factor and battery life, I'd never give away my atrix lol. I love my gingerbread atrix.

Sent from rooted Atrix on 2.3.4 with unlocked bootloader using xda premium app.
[Atrix 4G General] RodneyMcKay:
So not to make this discussion any harder but I haven't noticed anyone talking about this long known fact....

The SGS2 is going to be powered by a Tegra2 chip in the GT-I9103 model vs the GT-i9100 (Exynos 4210). Until recently I had been seeing the 9103 as slated for the US and UK. Now it looks like it's the other way around.

Also It appears that the 9103 is not going to have the Super Amoled+ screen.

Can anyone confirm the US is getting the 9100 based devices and not the 9103. Also do we have any confirmed details as to what will be in the AT&T Attain? This whole issue might be pointless if the Attain is based on a 9103.
[Atrix 4G General] Sinful Animosity:
I don't think we have confirmation what the Attain will have.

But that hardware button. Blegh. Too iPhony for me.
[Atrix 4G General] DukeL:
I have both, ATRIX for the win.

Why?....

-Not so damn big

-Bigger Battery

-Fingerprint Reader

-Webtop & Accessory Ecosystem

-Easier to hold and use one handed

-960x540 resolution

-Louder speaker phone

Dont get me wrong though the S2 has benefits. Gotta love that amoled+ screen though. Colors are insane. Benchmarks are off the chart, it's crazy thin and video quality is off the hook.

Overall though I prefer Atrix. Everything about the samsung is indirectly copied from the iPhone design, inside & out. No originality.
[Atrix 4G General] ronak47:
Ok let me give my view having done the swap I initially was wanting advice for...

The SGS2 is a very very nice phone... But having had it (sold it to mafiaboy01) I don't think the device is for me due to size.

I have now gone back to the Atrix and for me without a shadow of doubt, is the best Android phone on the market.

Great battery

Great size

Great specs

Great accessories ( webtop etc )

There will be some that disagree with me but a mobile phone is a personal choice and for me and Magnetox we prefer the Atrix.

Now that I have done my playing around with handsets I look forward to an unlocked bootloader and some sweet gingerbread action.
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
Damn... I've read pretty much the whole topic. :D

How ironical that in the beginning everyone said SGS2 wins hands down, and now the majority prefers the Atrix. :D

This just goes on to prove that hardware is nothing without the software. I hope Motorola really keep their promise and deliver unlocked bootloaders for future phones. I am a huge fan of their build quality, and with unlocked bootloaders it will be pure Android heaven.:cool:

That said, I am looking forward to getting my Atrix next week.:D
[Atrix 4G General] ronak47:
Good choice my friend.
[Atrix 4G General] dilwaala:
Having both phones and comparing them side by side, I'd still go with the Atrix. Having said that, not everyone would necessarily agree with them but here they are:

1) Screen Resolution: Atrix is hands down better. Yes the blacks are better on the Samsung but the higher res/brighter screen on the Atrix wins for me.

2) Speaker Phone: Love the Atrix's speaker phone. For me this is important since I make a lot of calls on speaker.

3) Tegra: I've already purchased a number of tegra games and the fact that I can't play them on the samsung is a bummer

4) Battery life: The stock Atrix had some good battery life but I still upgraded it to the Mugen which now gives me about 3 days. The Samsung unfortunately just sucks when it comes to battery life. Might be better once the extended comes out? I know mugen just started preorders for it.

My 2 cents
[Atrix 4G General] hagizma:
Motorola always make better phoned according to samsung.

Samsung galaxy s 2 is released after atrix but atrix still can fight and win against all other rivals when its bootloader is opened.

In my oppinion atrix is better in overal
[Atrix 4G General] Swiftks:
I'm sorry, but this is all pretty much a moot point b/c the mack daddy of all android phones is dropping this fall, most are speculating in time to compete with the iPhone 5... the NEXUS "PRIME".

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387745,00.asp

As much as I love my Atrix... I will drop it in a sec to get this phone if it lands on AT&T.
[Atrix 4G General] Krshaw18:
I just peed a little but in my shorts...
[Atrix 4G General] vernicex:
really ?

How about I use it to download music and get it straight in my library ?

How about I use it to receive an email attachment in zip, extract it, and then view it on my my phone ?

How about I use it to change the homescreen to whatever I prefer ?

How about I use it for the widgets ?

the list goes on... There's more to Android than just flashing and modding :)

now back to the topic, I still choose the Atrix, for the build quality, battery, screen (no, I don't see any pentile, I guess my eyes are not good enough), and the fingerprint sensor :D

I know there will always be someone (or a lot of people) will say that sgs2 is better, I respect their opinion, but please, just go head and buy a sgs2 already, and don't come back to Atrix forum ever again :p

edit : that Nexus Prime is clearly one hell of a phone phone, 720p is hard to beat :D
[Atrix 4G General] Devi0124:
Its being called the best smartphone ever....its definitely better