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[General Topics] johjoh2k:
Nice post!

I agree, the world it's not enough for the new Phone OS! :rolleyes:
[General Topics] aaa:
Android OS is not perfect but it is simply the best currently available OS.

Who knows what will come in the future.
[General Topics] hungry81:
Very good. Now go on an iphone forum and post the equivilent calling the iphone "Not perfect." post a link so we can see the results. Objectivity runs both ways you know.

Android does have flaws. Most people besides the brand loving morons realise that. I do not like many of the features that come with android, But thankfully I have the ability to turn many of those aspects off. Androids flaws for me do not outweigh ios flaws and therefore I use it in conjunction with winmo. If something works for me of course I will endorse it. If something dosent I won't and

I will tell people why, Its as simple as that.
[General Topics] vbetts:
You can turn a lot of features that you don't want or need off in Ios after jailbreaking it. Same kind of goes for Android, if you don't want something on it like bloatware from the carrier, only way to get rid of it is to root it.
[General Topics] EyeAssureU:
Great post. No technology is perfect. However for me an avid user of both IPhone 4 and the evo 4g if i was made to choose, I would walk away with a non rooted evo 4g as my daily driver. Then you add the features and personalization of my android and it is a no brainer for me.

That being said I am a lucky minority that can have my phone plugged in through out my work day and so the lack luster battery life doesnt affect me near as much.:cool:
[General Topics] di3k:
Nice post, for my opinion...use the most suitable for your needs.
[General Topics] DroidXDoesAndroid:
Androids not perfect. Neither is iOS/WP7.

But Android still destroys them.

IOS doesn't compare.
[General Topics] sabrelime:
I agree. Android isn't perfect. One of the things I am finding out is that what is making Android suck (At least somewhat on my phone) is the AT&T restrictions that have been put in place on this device.
[General Topics] LiquidSolstice:
FTFY

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[General Topics] LiquidSolstice:
Didn't they end up allowing that with the HTC Sync software?
[General Topics] LiquidSolstice:
Emphasized that for you.

For the record, I'd happily do that. It'd mean that I'd have to right up a long post, but frankly, I don't really mind. Nice jab at iOS users though, not difficult to see which side you're on.

I'd get no more or less than the same amount of objection to what I've said than I have in this thread. Don't try and convince yourself otherwise, please.

The truth is, no one can really say what the "perfect" mobile OS is. All we can do is say what works best for us or what we prefer, but when we state it as fact, as though it's not arguable, that's when we become the fanboys that we so dearly hate. Just keep that in mind.
[General Topics] DroidXDoesAndroid:
iOS is soo boring.

I like how Apple calls it the "Most Advanced operating system ever."

It has barely changed over the years, and is as unadvanced as it gets.

Android beats it in soo many ways. Trust me, you get sick of 4x4 boxes all the time.
[General Topics] cbizzle:
nah

nah its not perfect, but you can attempt to make perfect for you
[General Topics] vbetts:
You do realize that 9/10, being "advanced" has nothing to do with the looks of the OS? I'm not agreeing with it being the most advanced, but the UI has nothing to do with how "advanced" an OS is.
[General Topics] pukemon:
omg?! android's not perfect? ****. now i have to go back to symbian^4.
[General Topics] Feeshie:
No OS is perfect there are flaws in every OS. There will always be flaws unless you mash all OSes together. It's all about personal preferences. It's like war between Coke and Pepsi. They are both good, but you have your own opinions on which one is better.
[General Topics] hungry81:
Why? I know what I wrote. Did it need to be emphasized ?

I look forward to the results.

*brainsplosion* Thats what Just what I did. I think we are almost on the same page, but Just because you are not a fanboy of any particular brand does not mean you have to have a positive image of every brand.
[General Topics] lunlunb:
nothing is perfect no matter android or ios
[General Topics] MartyLK:
I think Android needs to go to church. Not being perfect is a damnable sin. Receiving absolution for its erring ways is the only hope for it.
[General Topics] hosusoft:
good post

good post.

read and read.
[General Topics] nazix:
Thank You for information ^^ --
[General Topics] MaBlo:
Nothing is perfect. But for me my current phone is the best at the moment. Hands down. That's my personal preference, everyone have different needs.
[General Topics] scottmog:
I don't see any mobile os as perfect but the pure reason that you can choose a mobile operator and choose which chassis u would like to use it makes it the most versitile.
[General Topics] tolis626:
You like the Galaxy S II?Meh,you're dumb. :p

(Before you get offended check my sig.I'm still trying to tame the beast! :cool: )
[General Topics] MaBlo:
None taken. I've seen you around in the SGS2 section :p
[General Topics] mirrinigma:
LiquidSolstice, I would like to take the time to post this after having read your first post.

I love you. This is exactly what I've been trying to explain to friends for the longest time.

If I had a dollar to spare, I'd attempt to give it to you.
[General Topics] :
If you say something is "perfect"... that's just implying that there's no room for improvement?
[General Topics] blarrick:
seriously have to agree here, I still personally think the iPhone is outdated but it's true that we are becoming the 'fanboys' that we have been calling iPhone users for a while now..
[General Topics] Dripz167:
I totally agree. The only reason I took notice of Android is because a phone I wanted happened to run the OS. Had it ran Symbian or WP7, I still would have gotten it.

Not to sound corny, but all of these OS have their strengths and weaknesses. iOS is reliable, at the cost of minimal customization, which many are totally fine with. Android is yours to call your own, but lacks dedication to all phones. As one version will work wonderfully, an one will suffer because of hardware limitations. I'm sure WP7 has it's ups and downs, but I never got to try it to see.

All in all, people worry a bit too much about the inside of their phones rather than just enjoying the phone itself.
[General Topics] macdanif:
Kind of sad that people need a post like this to point out the obvious. Well said nonetheless.
[General Topics] vnvman:
Android is not perfect AT ALL. The reason why i picked up a Desire over an iPhone4 (i could choose both with my contract) was the fact that it was, at that time, the most promising os (imho). Also, ios 4 was still poor in terms of functionality compared to it, while widgets and notification system were huge android pros.

When the gb update came i started being a little bit disappointed: they promised better gpu driver support and all i got was broken aac+ support, call delay bug and reboots. Then google promised that they would have integrated gpu acceleration in the ui starting from honeycomb, and guess what? Epic lie, the ui of the xoom still lags like hell. Now they claim ics will get it, but you know what? I don't trust them anymore.

Google's "open source project" is a joke: they hardly ever push any code, and when they do it's all messed and buggy, while the current one is held secret; they throw updates and then they stop caring at all about both the new and the old version, plus they don't do any bug fixing nor care about security vulnerabilities.

Google has to change a lot if they want me to buy another android powered device this fall, otherwise i'll move to wp7, or maybe even (no joke lol) to rim: after 3 years of full touch phones i miss those nice vertical keyboards like hell...also, the next bold touch will sport a nice, refreshed, accelerated ui (yes, even bb has it nowadays), a decent 1.2 ghz processor and adreno 205 gpu...and trust me, you don't need more on a 2.8" candybar blackberry.

Anyway, i still hope that android can get better, a year ago this was the most complete and promising os ever made (despite a few bugs), if google devs do the right moves it can still be (imho).
[General Topics] jassyfr:
Nothing can be perfect.

if you say android is not perfect, then how about iOS?

It is better to be not perfect ans still with rooms to improve.

Stay hungry is better than stuffed~~
[General Topics] tolis626:
Well,you are mostly right.

Why mostly?I'll tell you why.The Desire you have was always terrible in 2D performance.2D performance is what you experience as smoothness in the UI.Because of the lack of hardware acceleration,2D is left for the CPU to process.Then there comes the fact that the first gen Snapdragon isn't the most powerful GPU to date,nor does the Desire have a 2D accelerator chip unlike the Desire HD,which feels MUCH smoother.Not to mention the Galaxy S 2.The smoothness on that thing is awe inspiring.

You are right though.We have yet to see what ICS will bring.
[General Topics] vnvman:
Yeah i understand that, but still seeing a wp7 phone like lg optimus 7, which has the same hardware the desire has and is smooth like hell under every aspect makes me really think that google is kidding us so bad, and that makes me really upset...not to mention that that thing actually costs about 200€ :eek:
[General Topics] lamebmx:
You know there are laws against incest in most of the developed world. and well the undeveloped world wont have much use for a cellphone after the battery dies anyways. so their opinion dont count.

GNU/Linux and BSD are kissing cousins, and their respective offspring probably shouldnt be mashed together.

Different people have different needs. There are some fundamental differences between iOS and Androids grand-pappy's which simply cannot coexist. One is tolerant of different hardware at the expense of sometimes being flaky. The other wants rock solid drivers at the expense of limited hardware compatibility.

Lastly what happened to searching before posting, this is really an age old arguement that always boils down to fanboys strutting like peacocks. While the best advice is research the pro's and con's if you cant afford more than one OR tinker and try them all if you can afford to.
[General Topics] mirrinigma:
I have a strong feeling after having read through this entire thread that people are taking "Android is not perfect" + the OP and twisting it in to "iOS and WP7 are just better."

The key point, as I've read it, is:

Android is not for everyone. iOS/WP7 appeal to the masses because they work great without modification. Moreso iOS because it is the incumbent in that department.

You shouldn't be offended as an Android power-user that he says Android isn't perfect, iOS/WP7 appeal to the masses, because what he's saying is that he thinks you're part of the [this is a generalization right here] smart community that puts the "smart" in "smartphone".

I've said it before to people who come to me and ask what phone they should get: If you're just going to be using it as a phone, don't bother getting an iPhone, Windows Phone, or Android phone unless you want to do a lot more. It's not worth the data plan cost. If you want the fancy apps and whatnot of an iPhone but you're not going to be browsing the internet wherever you go, just get a feature phone and an iPod touch. If you want the flexibility of Android, well, you probably know what you're doing. If you have needs for personal and professional integration with Windows and your phone and you're going to be using a smartphone for more than just a phone, go with Windows.

I'm really [read: not] surprised that after having read every page of this thread that so many people have missed the point entirely and are acting like by someone saying Android is not perfect, they're insulting it, and taking it as if their mother has slugged in the face.
[General Topics] bleach168:
Really? REally? When i read through this thread, what I see is that so many people agree that Android is not perfect and it's not for everyone.
[General Topics] moss20:
i read somewhere that microsoft get some money when an android phone is saled because android uses something that is the proprety of microsoft...

is it true ? i can't believe this o.o
[General Topics] iammodo:
Microsoft gets like $5 from every HTC phone sold due to some court case they won

Sent from my Tablet
[General Topics] mitcha:
thats cool !
[General Topics] tahahawa:
I knew before I read this that android wasn't perfect. I don't hate iOS but I prefer android because it is more involved and has a less simple UI. I'm not a simpleton and I like more complex things like the nitty gritty of the root folder like on linux. Does that sound like fanboyism to you?
[General Topics] moss20:
omg it's incredible...great microsoft managment ;)
[General Topics] moss20:
i think that iOs is a great OS but you can have ios in ONLY in one phone and this phone is very expensive..i live in italy and the iphone costs 700-800 euros,a good android phone costs 350-400€ and i don't think that a difference of 300€ is right for a good os,so i bought an htc desire.

the problem of ios is that you can't customize as you want your phone and for data transfert you have to have itunes,i don't like these things.

as you said,android offers custom roms,superuser,overclock etc...
[General Topics] pukemon:
is anybody forgetting that iOS/WP7 aren't perfect either? part of android's problem and it's blessing is the variety of phones. each android phone has to be tailored to that handset's exterior ui and interior hardware/ui. so many phones and so many resource to keep these phones up to date. but the crackhead masses would rather buy another phone with updates. this is true of apple even though their hardware/software/os path is more linear.

but yeah android needs to get hw acceleration in asap. it's beyond me why they don't. are they holding something above our heads like a carrot, while the other rabbits already have it? geez, hw acceleration has been around quite awhile.
[General Topics] gabitu73:
Who is perfect ?:D
[General Topics] TheIceCreamMan:
Riveting tale chap, nothings perfect, Evolution is a part of life.
[General Topics] Juan Kerr:
The most popular desktop OSs are crap.

Fingers crossed people will improve to meet the Android standard the way they've been unable to on the desktop.

-=JK=-
[General Topics] vq35power:
I like your post and it states your opinion clearly. IMO, perfect is a strong word to describe any OS. What proves an OS better than the other? I really think it's the way a company markets a product to the general public. Most people will not jailbreak or root their phone. Many use the technology products just for the sake of getting the task done and they will buy what they have been fed by media as the "perfect" product. Apple vs PC war is ongoing and I think IOS vs every other OS battle is never-ending. If android was marketed like iphone, I'm sure these devices would be as perfect but then we would be paying a very high hardware cost and would have to live with extreme limitations to preserve the vendor's perception of perfection. It would be cool to have an Android store though :)

I like customization and use the capacity of the products that I purchase to maximum possibly allowed by the limitation of my brain cells. I enjoy ubuntu and my android, and don't have to worry about google shutting me down just because I rooted my phone...
[General Topics] Innocent Devil:
To everyone, The device which is able to do the task they want to do is perfect

Bcoz using the device, they dont have to go 4 smthing else..

For the *minority* as LS told, want push *THEIR* device to do smthing it capable, but not intended.

extreme example: running Ubuntu on a Desire HD. running Android on iPhone

It is upto you to choose a 4-lane highway or a muddy shortcut to your destination.

Its not about perfect, but what does the job.
[HTC Sensation] KhanSW:
Just had the weirdest thing happen. The s4g rebooted while posting a reply in the xda app and now that it came back up its showing a transparent box in the bottom left corner that says Safe Mode.

Not sure what happened but this is the 4th time its just crashed on its own but first time its shown the safe Mode prompt. Had anyone else had this happen to them since picking it up?
[HTC Sensation] bandersnatch:
Me too

Just happened. I think I turned it on while it was crooked in the case, and got weird button presses. I took it out of the case, pulled the battery, and tried again without case. I'm back to normal now.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yeahman45:
what are those 2 and how can i install them? i can't find any tuto for htc desire... will CM7 HBOOT and fat align improve lagginess/jerkiness i have on camcorder recordings (480p)?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raze599:
HBOOT is just the bootloader I believe. There is no reason to update this. FAT32 refers to formatting. If you format your SD card to FAT32 with 32KB clusters with your computer (Just right click the card in my computer, select format, select FAT32 with 32KB clusters, uncheck quick format) that might improve your recording FPS. You will lose all data on the SD card though if you do this so make sure you back anything up that is important and after the format you can transfer it back across.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] habad:
while playing video with entertainment center - no sound.

if i use other program(qqplayer) - plays good.

why?

how i can fix it?

thanks
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
No....you need download or convert your video
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSmokingAndroid:
umm, no the Atrix plays many different video formats....im having the same problem trying to play avi and mpeg formats.....
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
You news convery to other codec....
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00cubano:
I get the oposite, i get sound but no video
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Kalifax:
Can u guys find Crackle from Android market?

I'm running villainrom 1.2 in Finland, and can't find it in Market.

Web-market says my phone not compatible, but at crackle.com they say sgs2 is supported...
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] lalacle:
I don't think your country is supported.. that's probably why..
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Kalifax:
Ahh, OK. Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] JJEgan:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/crackle-movies-tv/com.gotv.crackle.handset

jje
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] jayerfernandes:
Does anyone know how they determine the country. Is it via the google sign in location ip, the carrier network or the phone ROM country???
[EVO 4G General] snandlal:
Being pushed now.

Somebody please tell Uncle Jimmy hello for me
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
I just tried to update and it updated to (or maybe I already had) 60679.

Edit: Not to make anyone confused ...I meant to say I tried to update thru the update prl menu.
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
No dice, zip didn't work and trying to update manually from sense rom didn't either, still at 01115.
[EVO 4G General] murphdsurf:
Checking now.....

And my PRL still says 01115 after a system update?
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
Just use CDMA workshop or QPST, you need a Sense ROM and enter DIAG mode. You cannot flash this, duh, there has never been a flashable PRL.
[EVO 4G General] digiblur:
As always the changes can be found here... http://www.batonrougebroadband.info/
[EVO 4G General] vasiaeva:
How to download from that site???
[EVO 4G General] magix200:
How would i download it?
[EVO 4G General] tramane:
I have been getting seriously delayed texts from some people

Anyone notice this?
[EVO 4G General] snandlal:
Update your profile

Uncle Jimmy says hello
[EVO 4G General] _Epic:
Perfect. Got it to update.
[EVO 4G General] Amd4life:
mine wouldn't update, running kings rom alliance

it still reads, 60679
[EVO 4G General] miguelfp1:
if you're in the 6xxxx series of PRLs, it will not be updated to the 011xx PRLs.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christos312:
Hello,

This is a silly question but i have searched the entire forum+google and I didnt find an answer on this.

So 3 questions

I am considering to install the Virtuous v3.2.0 ROM and in the thread it says

I am rooted, checked

NAND unlock = S-Off(?), checked

Radio 2.x??? How do I know what radio version I have?

My Baseband version is 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

1) So is this my radio version? And if it is how i determine if it is 2.X? :confused:

Also I read the thread for updating a radio

I have rooted and S-OFF the phone with Easy Radio and S-Off tool. My question is:

2) It is ok to jump to Step 3?

3) And the version of the Radio that i will flash has anything to do with the current version? I mean to put 2.X i need to have 1.X?

Thank you for your time!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
Edit: I've just re-read your post and you've linked to a Droid Incredible ROM but you're posting in the Desire HD forums... The DHD radios won't work on a Droid Incredible, and the Incredible ROMs won't work on a DHD. :confused: Ignore everything below unless you're on a DHD!

I assume by "2.x radio" they mean a radio from one of the Gingerbread 2.x bases. Go to the Radio Thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877295 and check the description against each radio.

For example your radio for your 12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M it says "HTC WWE 1.32.405.6", so I would think you need to update your radio. A lot of people are using the radio from the official Gingerbread final release

28th April 2011: Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 - HTC Ace Gingerbread S 2.36.405.5

Regarding flashing the radio, I haven't read that thread in detail but it's for the Droid Incredible, and the method won't be the same for the DHD. There are better instructions in the radio thread I linked. Hope that helps. :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christos312:
:o Nice one my dear me :o

Sorry I totally didnt notice that that ROM was for another phone. Someone suggested it and I didnt check it...:confused:

Thanks for the information I will read the post...

Thanks again ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
Heh, no problem. The radio info is good then. :) You're on a very old radio, so if you want to try a custom ROM based on Gingerbread then it would still be a good idea to update it. Check the thread and also follow the link in it to the info about Radio RILs. :)

And there is a Virtuous "Unity" ROM for the DHD by the same team, the thread is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christos312:
Thanks, maybe that was the one that the guy suggested then :o

I will check the links. Respect :cool:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christos312:
Oh another small question

Can I jump directly and install 28th April 2011: Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 - HTC Ace Gingerbread S 2.36.405.5

Or because my radio is so old I will have to make some intermediate updates?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
You won't have to make any intermediate updates, but I'm not 100% sure how the Gingerbread radios (2.x) work on Froyo ROMs - might be worth asking in the thread. I know people are doing it the other way around, i.e. using older Froyo radios (1.x) on newer GB ROMs.

But if you're on a Froyo ROM and about to change to a Gingerbread one, most custom GB ROMs have the RIL files for the radio above included. In that case you're fine, and it doesn't matter whether you flash the ROM or the radio first.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christos312:
Yeap its me again :p Sorry for the many questions but I read that flashing a radio is too risky and I do not want to attempt anything before I am 100% sure that I have the full picture... :P

In the thread that you gave me with the radios (and thank you for that) next to the radio version there is a provider

eg

Does it matter?

Also the author suggests to download this one

What I need to know before choosing the correct radio?

Thanks again :|