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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rogconnect:
mine is not the screen issues...it's the vol+ button not working:) I got a feeling is water...when I install that Skinomi Skin (Sucks) not easy to install..bubbles..actually for moisture under screen..... i have it b4 and I use a hair dryer to heat up the screen ...gone after a few fix...

And I just ordered the SGP Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Screen Protector Steinheil Series [Ultra Crystal]....I read over @ the Asus TF section....this is easier to install and no bubbles effect.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
Hey guys, I just made a experiment and it removed this "moisture" from the screen...I just blow air through the cable connector at the bottom of the tablet and it just dissapeared...I know this probably is not a permanent fix, but it works for me...could anybody else try and post the results?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dcc22:
air could break the contact between screen fluid and glas
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rogconnect:
I received my replacement 10.1 this morning......by Fedex Express Priority Overnight Saturday delivery..........Thumb up Amazon......I still have the old TAB with me. It'll be sent out on Monday with the Returned UPS Label ....I don't think BB can provides this sort of replacement service....That's why I brought from amazon instead of BB and I saved on taxes too.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys, this evening the tab has shown the spot in the middle of the screen.

I don't think this can be considered a problem.

Any confirmation that the fridge solution solves the spot definitely?

I've seen that:

- the spot appeared after a whole day in stand by, not turned off.

- even cleaning the display using a nabuk cloth makes the spot bigger.

- blowing in the connector clears the spot

This nothing that can ruin the tablet experience, but I'd like to know if this is considered a problem by

Samsung.

I've a 60 days insurance and 4 years of warranty on the device.

Maybe it's too early to find a tablet without this problem.

Any suggestion?

Daemon

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
I don't know if this can be considered as a problem, but I think that if you have paid $500-$600 for a product you can't stand an issue like this one (the screen is the main part of a tablet), that's why I've requested a replacement from Amazon...if the new one has the same issue I'll be requesting for a refund and wait for a definite solution by Samsung...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
I tried the fridge solution and it worked so far.

Furthermore i noticed that pouches and cases trigger the issue.

I applied a screen protection.

The problem isn't returned so far.

Regards

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
I tried that solution too, but the problem came back... :-(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] LevitateJay:
Mine had a terrible spot last night and rubbing it was making it bigger! I was very angry, esp because I live in New Zealand and to return to Amazon was going to cost lots and be a huge hassle.

I put it in the fridge for 15 minutes and gave a rub with a towel...

So far the spot is still gone... Been over 12 hours.. Hopefully it stays that way!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Giia:
Amazon USA doesn't charge postage for returns. You're allowed to print a return shipping label directly from the website... only cost to you is a box to ship it back in , if you didnt save the one it came in, and printing the shipping label on plain paper...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys,

The spot is back this morning after i carried it in the case.

I think it's not just temperature related, but even compression matters.

By the way, i'm pretty sure this issue is present on all devices.

I think I won't change it until samsung declares that the "issue" is solved.

Daemon

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] LevitateJay:
The problem is that they won't ship the tablet outside the united states so even if I sent it to them I wouldn't be able to get back.. unless they did a special case for me :confused:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cekle:
My tab started showing signs of liquid once the ambient temperature was above 75. Summertime in California. So, my tablet is going back to TigerDirect. I will probably pick up another one shortly after I get my refund, but I'll be getting mine from Best Buy or another brick and mortar store for easier exchange.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys,

I don't know if it's the case to ask for a substitution.

So far i haven't seen any device that don't trigger this issue in the same conditions.

I'm a perfectionist, but this is far from being a real problem.

I mean, no backlight, no screen popup, no freezes.

This is something physical. It's probably too thin and this is the result.

Changing for another tab 10.1 is a non sense from my point of view.

Soon or later the issue will be triggered.

Changing for a different tab is the solution. Or wait for a solution from Samsung.

Any opinion, concerns?

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys,

Further details: as we said it's related to synthetic films touching physically each other.

I made some more checks and i found that the problem is mainly triggered by wrong forces

applied to the chassis. In my case i can easily remove the issue applying a light force to upper angles from front to back

as I'm tryingto gently bend it over.

Very very gently.

Please let me know if it solves.

Obviously I'm not responsible of any damage caused by this procedure applied erroneously.

Best regards,

Daemon

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Hiro666:
Well said. Totally agree. When I am using my GTab I never notice the spot and totally forget about it. Just doesn't bother me. Zero regrets switching over from the Transformer.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ajd88:
It must be a problem with all of the devices. I was sitting out in the sun listening to Pandora and just noticed it appear. Gonna let it stay inside for a while and see what happens. Imo it is a eye soar for a device that costs much as it does.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Zoide_:
I've tried most of the fixes mentioned in this thread and the quickest and most effective so far is the one mentioned by AndroidCR:

Place your mouth on the dock connector and gently blow air into the tablet.

This seems to generate enough pressure to unstick the layers that cause the "stain".

It's probably not permanent but it works instantly as opposed to putting the tablet in the fridge for half an hour.

It does make me a little weary that dust will get in if you blow too much air into the device...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] coachclass:
I had the SGT10.1 for a few days, but returned it because of another issue (weird color from the front facing camera). I noticed some of the oil stain only when I press the screen a bit hard. Other than that, even after extended use, mine was ok.

Given the expense of the thing, I have a hard time justifying having to baby it. It should just work. You can't get credit for having thinnest tablet while at the same time have these issues.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] darkonex:
Dang I thought us Transformer peeps had issues lulz, that splotch would drive me nuts. Also surprised many of you thought it was actually liquid or moisture, haven't you seen this issue on other devices w/ cases before? Any Otterbox Defender case that has the built in screen protector will cause this same effect on iPhone 4, Blackberry, etc whatever you put it on. Even clear TPU cases for iPhone will cause this same issue on the back side. I quit using the built in screen protectors for the Defender cases due to this. It simply has to do with like others said with the top glass and the LCD itself touching so slightly and obviously temperature changes are a factor as it will expand and contract device a bit. Hopefully they make a change in manufacturing to fix this, but from the sounds of it their olders devices had same issue so doubt they will. Good luck!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mlhdk:
I got the wifi version - and I can not reproduce the rings. Maybe the temperature here in europe is cold and not causing the problem.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Where are you from? I'm in Europe too but I live in Italy and in these days it's pretty hot here...

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] skel4877:
check it out, my galaxy tab has had this before but it only lasted for like a minute, but now its still here and i managed to take a pic on my evo, hope you can see it.

im definitely going to exchange it because its simply not worth spending 600 bucks for a 32 gb gtab10.1 and to have this nasty defect...... so frustrating!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Aaron636r:
Picked mine up on Friday at BB. Woke up this morning to the same thing being reported here. Although it doesn't affect how it runs..just looks horrible. I too, expect something a little more from a $600 device.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] deckard67:
Exchanging mine...

To the person that thinks that we are overblowing this....You are m o r o n. When I spend $500 on a device I expect it to perform as advertised and to not have this kind of issue.

My screen "Newton Rings" have gotten worse as I have had the device. I received this device before going on a long trip to Utah and Wyoming (I live in AZ). I purchased the device from Amazon because of their return policy and because I try to avoid BB at all costs. I did purchase a Belkin case from BB because it was the niced 3rd party one I had seen. NO problems during the trip whatsoever. However, when I journeyed to get my car washed last week and stuck it between the seat and my console the rings appeared. It was small about the size of a quarter. I put it up to the vent with the AC on high and it went away. It did it again a couple days later and again i was able to get rid of the rings by holding it up to the ac blower.

Today though I took it with me shopping. I had it under my arm in its case and the rings developed, this time much larger It is in the center of the device and is something like 3 inches wide by 2 inches high. It has not gone away. I have tried everything. Used the AC, stuck it in the fridge. Tried to blow dry air into the 30 pin port...Nothing. It has been off for more than an hour now and it is not going away. I am calling Amazon now to get a replacement unit sent, but if it happens again I will return for a refund.

I have to say that the device works great. This is a cosmetic issue, at least so far. But I will say again that if I pay $500 for such a device, expect that such an issue should not happen.

Update...will be receiving my replacement tomorrow. Amazon expedited shipping. They are great. Hopefully my replacement one will be devoid of this very serious cosmetic issue. My hope that this is just a small QC issue and not a major design flaw.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] juanisidrobt:
I returned my GT10.1 32gb and got a refund at amazon, the device was beautiful but for 600 dollars it had to be perfect. I bought a Toshiba Thrive, not as elegant as the Galaxy Tab, but it performs the same way since it has the same hardware. Now with the Thrive I have full sized ports at exchange for some sexyness.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dongabo:
After five days this 'moisture' appeared in the center was like 1"x2" long now (one hour later) 1" x 3". - White 16gb from bestbuy puerto rico.

20 Mins later UPDATE:

Temp Outside: 88 Degrees or 31 celcius. 67% Humidity

I sent to my room with air conditioner. It went from 1"x4" long "moisture" to about 1/2" to 2".

I tried holding it in the A/C vent (for less than 20 seconds) and now its about 1/3"x1/3". Once I stopped holding it was back to 1/2"x1".

-=-=-=-=-

Freezer for 20 secs and it desapeared.

Used a dryblower and reapeared...

OK that's it :P
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Shadowguy:
Well obviously it seems the Newton Rings will appear eventually on any samsung galaxy tab. My question has anyone contacted samsung so that the defect can be fixed and hopefully a recall?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] emuneee:
Don't expect a recall from Samsung. Do expect it to be fixed (silently) in newer hardware builds though.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Zoide_:
Has anyone successfully returned their Galaxy Tab 10.1 without the original packaging?

I threw away the box and the instructions at Amazon's Help section are very discouraging...

"Electronics purchased from Amazon.com and most sellers are easily returned within 30 days of receipt of shipment. These items must be in new condition with original packaging and accessories. Products missing the serial number or UPC cannot be accepted; refunds will not be issued for such items."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=901908#ce
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
It's almost impossible to have a refund without the packaging. The warranty rules state this clearly.

The online press is moving by the way to have an answer from Samsung directly.

For those that actually don't have the problem, what's the temperature and humidity?

@dongabo: is it returning or it's been fixed definitely?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chubby_Skunk:
My SGT 10.1 looks to be perfect.... I haven't had a problem *YET*. I live in Seattle and it is around 60degrees F.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] joeystyles66:
I live in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. I bought my 10.1 in the U.S., and when I had left it in the hot car for a few minutes during that trip I noticed a small "wet spot" or whatever you guys are calling it. I didn't think much of it since it went away almost immediately. Since getting back to Canada I haven't noticed any spots coming back. I put my tab up to a light this morning even just to check and its clean throughout. I've kept it in my air-conditioned home since the trip though.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] couto607:
Have you tried taking it outside? I live in Brampton and am planning on getting one next month, I'm just worried that the climate outside might cause this...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] joeystyles66:
Yes I've used it on the patio and in the car. I haven't noticed any wet spots since the U.S. trip. That was a 9 hour car ride by the way (we went to Boston), and the spot only showed up when I left the tablet in the hot car when we pulled over for breaks. It was also in a neoprene sleeve at the time too.

I've had mine for about a week now, I'm pretty happy with it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] couto607:
That's great! Here's hoping that the ones released in Canada are updated models which hopefully wonct have this problem.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys, any info about outdoor temperatures?

I mean: doesn't matter if it's inside or outside, but if in canada you have 60°F probably you won't have this problem.

Best Regards
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bhinmaine:
Mine did this as well, but oddly enough the fix for me was to 'twist' the device ever so slightly.

1. Hold the device in landscape orientation with your thumbs and palm on the glass, other fingers on the back.

2. very very gently twist the device in opposite directions (ie; left hand going away from your body while your right hand going towards your body).

That gets ride of the rings for me everytime I notice them.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tenderidol:
Great! I was set to buy the Tab 10.1 and saw this thread last night. I guess it's going to be Xoom for me, then...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dulaney22:
If you are getting the Xoom make sure you never look at the Galaxy display. I had the Xoom, returned to Tabs with this display and other issue. The Xoom, to me, was more stable, even if running the same OS. The Tab has a much better screen and better form factor. I just picked up the Touchpad and like it so far.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] whitesedan:
My first one (16GB) had this issue but it didn't bother me as much since when I turn it on, it would disappear.

10 days later, ran out of space and had to upgrade for a 32GB which was perfect.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Temperatures temperatures temperatures...

Remember to communicate temperatures, always, to keep track if this is something related to temperatures

Thanks :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tenderidol:
I did get the Xoom after comparing it to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the store. Yes, the screen was better on the Tab, but it felt really fragile.

Good luck to you all with the screen issue. I hope Samsung comes up with a solution soon.

[Time to go to the Xoom sub-forum, now].
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Aaron636r:
I came from the Xoom. Don't miss it at all. Sits in my sock drawer now.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dborello:
Please, how do you make a video on youtube.

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kirdroid:
Got the moisture thing on my 32gb tab. I had returned earlier one with the same issue. I live in Seattle and had not seen the issue on the 32gb for almost 2 weeks. This week I was on vacation in Niagara falls and guess what the spot re-appeared. It was in the back of the car for most of the day after which I saw this.

So exchanging the tab is not going to help I guess. I'm going to keep it for now since it doesn't get that hot in seattle.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
Just got my replacement from Amazon...I'll be monitoring this issue and keep you posted if the spot appears...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gordec:
Do people who have this issue get it right when they get the tab or can happen few days after too? I　ｊｕｓｔ　ｇｏｔ　ｍｉｎｅ.　Ｈｏｐｅｆｕｌｌｙ　Ｉ　ｗｏｎ'ｔ　ｓｅｅ　ｉｔ.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
It happens after a few days of use...seems that temperature and handling are causing this issue...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] willenjs:
Got mine on Friday and the moister appeared this Saturday. In fact, I can't say it wasn't there since the beginning.

I live in Rio de Janeiro but it's winter and it's been only 73F (23ºC) in here.

I can't say the moister is a real problem, but I can't accept it on such a expensive device. I'm considering returning it to Amazon soon, just don't know if I will get a refund or a replacement.

That's really bad, I was so excited...

Motorola's Defy speaker problem, the antennagate, now this...

Doesn't they have any testing team!?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
You can get either a refund or a replacement, I opted for a replacement, if the problem appears again, I'll go for a refund...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] texasmojo:
My tab had the liquid pool in the middle of the screen when i first unpacked it. I just twisted my tab from side to side till it disappeared in a matter of seconds. Has not came back since. I can make it come back on any part of the screen if i press REALLY REALLY HARD down on the screen. But there is no need to press hard on this excellent gadget.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dborello:
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Please can you do a video on youtube
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] 5thElement:
I find it hilarious that people still think this is some kind of liquid/moisture under the screen. Its just such a ridiculous false claim.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ricardo.ferro:
try this

hi all

I have a white 32gb, and when I opened the box already had this problem,

but I found a way to fix, I took a sucker, those used in car holder for GPS or mobile phone, held on the screen and pulled up a little moisture out, and after he pulled out the sucker, the moisture has returned to the screen when pressed, then did it again a few times and let rest a while after it was seen no more moisture. try this.

sorry for the translation.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tenderidol:
Since you didn't tell them what it was, here is a linky :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Chubby_Skunk:
Ok. So I got the SGT 10.1 back on Thursday and then that night I got the "oil slick". YAY.

Returned it for a Motorola XOOM 32GB. It was $499. Same price as the 16GB SGT 10.1.... :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys,

People don't even know about existence of the newton rings optical diffraction issue. Referring to it as a moisture it's just to let them understand how does it look like.

By the way, it's absolutely not strictly related to force applied to the display. It appears spontaneously.

Best regards

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] willenjs:
It's really demotivating...

Did it get any worse for any of you guys?

I mean getting worse after regular use, not after trying to fix it somehow suckers or fridge :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] 5thElement:
I had a small area about 1cm in size but it went away after one day of use. Never seen it again....
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys,

Any news? Any spot returning? Any spot definitely solved?

For those of you that cannot get rid of it, try to put it in its own box or another comfortable closed environment with some silica gel bags for a whole day.

Please let me know if it helps.

Regards

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] fabianorosa:
Guys, I'm with the same problem, someone discovery a real fix or solution for this problem?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] flintdragon:
It was non-existent for me for 2 weeks until I took it to Puerto Rico. The heat/humidity probably affected it so severely that the oily mark was readily visible lying flat on a surface and didn't go away. It gradually went away after babying it in an A/C environment. These days, under normal use, it does not appear. Only when the glass is depressed stronger than usual (like when cleaning the glass) does it appear.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] T120ted:
Neither of my tabs had this issue.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] _d4ni3l:
Hi all,

I have just recieved Tab by mail from my parents in law in US (i'm in Eastern Europe). What a dissappointment was for me to find these Newton rings on the screen once I've taken away the screen shield. Since a couple of hours usage it got bigger.

It took 2 weeks for the item to get here, and I guess they wouldn't be able to replace it in BestBuy where they bought it even if I send it back (there's 30 days return term afaik). So my guess the only solution for me is trying to find a solution =)

Tried fridge and blowing air. Fridge doesn't help at all, blowing air removes it for a couple of seconds and then it comes back. However I noticed that when it's cold out of the fridge, the spot reduces much slower when blowing in, and then returns slower, in five-ten seconds.

Does anyone know, wether Samsung warranty work worldwide and cover this?

PS: here's the pic of my awful spot
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Hello guys,

I don't have my tab anymore.

Please try the silica gel solution for a day or two and let us know.

Moisture between the 2 surfaces can create the right diffraction to generate newton rings. The fridge can make the things worse with the time cause of the moisture generated by the temperatures differences. Silica gel can be the only way. And more than anything else, it cannot damage the tab in any way.

Regards

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] flintdragon:
My 2nd 10.1 from amazon had the issue right away (the next day in fact). I live in TEXAS by the way so temperature regardless of humidity is suspect.

Something is causing the case/screen/internal components to warp ever so slightly. When I took my current one (my first one) to Puerto Rico where I was backpacking with it, that's when the problem started. We were in the heat for hours and the screen looked terrible even sitting by itself.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Dc5e:
I've tried this with a bag of rice and two packets of silica gel (all I could find) as well as putting it in the fridge at the same time. The fridge would lessen/remove the rings, but once it warmed up, they would return.

My rings have been getting smaller while my tab's been sitting open in the samsung book cover. I think the book cover (due to the flap and how the tab is secured) allows the back / center of the screen to hang, so there is less pressure between the glass and lcd. As soon as I pick it up and apply pressure to the back, the rings grow back to their original size.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
You should keep the tab in a warm place while using silica gel bags. This will permit the possible moisture to evaporate. Furthermore the fridge can create more moisture inside the panel.

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