yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Singhman:
So i had both phones running on same network (Bell Mobility). Here's what i noticed.

1) GPS stayed accurate EVERYTIME on Atrix. Locked almost immediately (like 2 seconds). GPS accuracy ranged fom 4.9 to 6.1 ft. (basically perfect). It could even track which room of my house I was in using Google maps. GPS on i9000 sucks.

2) Atrix had better reception overall. It actually worked in places my i9000 would not work.

3) i9000 had a WAY better screen. The blacks were pure black, where on the atrix they were dark grayish. Colors way more vibrant on the i9000.

4) Surprisingly, the browser speeds were very similar (and atrix is duo core). I did many tests opening different websites at the same time...many times it was almost exactly the same, other times the i9000 was a bit faster, and sometimes the atrix was faster. i would call it a draw...and if i HAD to choose, i would say i9000 for speed (very very barely)

5) Samsung's software destroyed motoblur on the atrix. Just looked better, and WAY more convenient (example...when we pull down the main screen we can turn off/on gps, wifi, silent etc...cant on atrix). I did not really like motoblur too much, but perhaps I could get used to it and like it?

6) The phone Speaker sounds better on the i9000. Atrix is louder, but muffled on full blast)

Overall...the only things I think were better on the atrix was reception and a perfect gps. However, my work is in a dead spot for Bell...and my i9000 has full bars at almost every other place in the city. But...the atrix did work at my workplace in certain areas where the i9000 wouldn't.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ehtoeh:
Thanks for the comparison. However, were both phones stock? Rooted? Please provide some more details if possible.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zubat4u:
I've played for a couple of hours with my friends stock Atrix an then rooted, sorry can't remember witch ROM, it was very fast good build quality but like you said the screen is not even as clear and good looking as on SGS and the motoblur is rubbish.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] crnkoj:
i have to add something to this, i have an atrix and got me a cheap galaxy s to play on with custom roms. The Colors on the galaxy are all slightly blueish (esp the white color), however the black is trully better on the galaxy. havent had much chances to try the other things on the galaxy tho, but for instance sygic navigation locks up the galaxy while it works perfectly on the atrix.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] faisman:
i urgently need help... i am not a nooby to android, have been using android for over a year now on diff phones. but i have never had this problem before..

i can not reset my phone... it goes back to the settings i had 5 days ago!! i have tried everything from hard resets to re flashing but it always goes back to the same settings,apps and even account.

i can uninstall and install aps but once i reboot my phone... ALL changes are gone.. this is driving me crazy...

someone pls help

thanks...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
Even i get a problem (memory full)wen 1 gb is left in dalvik cache
[Galaxy S I9000 General] konx777:
me too ... till now ... :(

i did factory reset , from manual code and from recovery mode.

and every i did reboot always back to last state before i did flash :eek:

even my apps still there ...

actual how is the correct step to wipe all the data :confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldrifta:
hey guys.. i been looking around everywhere to try and get a good explanation of the files inside the rom.zip... like what the files are in the META-INF? and what are all the files inside the system folder? how do i know what to change and what not to change.. lol sorry but if anyone could possibly give me a more in depth explanation i would appreciate it greatly!!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marchking:
i dont have answer but i would also like to know this... since im just trying to learn how be a dev...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldrifta:
lol seems no one can help us... but this did help a little... http://forum.androidcentral.com/hacking/6037-general-rom-faq.html
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rattking:
Hi

The files in META-INF are just that, meta files they contain information about the files that are part of the rom.. specifically CERT.* and MANIFEST.MF contain the SHA1 hash of each file in the rom when you flash the rom your recovery environment hashes each file and checks it against the manifest. These files are created during the signing process.

META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script tells the recovery environment what to actually do. such as format /system then extract system to /system on the phone, set permissions for each file and the correct kernel to your boot.img then reflash it

the files in /system are the actual operating system and are in a UNIX-ish layout

executable's in bin & xbin, system apks in app, configuration files in etc, libraries in lib, ringtones and bootanim in media
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldrifta:
wow rattking thank you very much!! that was the best description anyone has ever given me!!! lol that was very helpful!! is there a place where you learn this from? or did you just figure it out as you went..?
[HTC Incredible S] ogxku5h:
Great write up. . Find try tomorrow.
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
what's the command line text for step 3?

"fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" ?
[HTC Incredible S] nikhil007mmus:
yes it is the command line ..

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

make sure you are in the directory where recovery.img is present :)
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
thanks, but first things first. need to be able to s-off my phone first =)
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
HELP

@NikhilI have windows 7 x64 have latest version of HTC Sync installed -I have just used it for the App installer fearture never used the SYNC now function on the phone.

When I connect the phone with USB debug mode and launch the AplharevX it gets stuck on the Aquiring root (method 2(... Step and i have tried many times to reboot the phone but NO JOY still S ON. Can you please help me isolate why Im not having any sucess with this S OFF tool. and how to uninstall HTC Sync and still keep the drivers ? Thanks
[HTC Incredible S] nikhil007mmus:
just normal uninstall the htc sync thats all no need to do nethng special for that !! and connect ur phone in charge only mode !!
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
Will do this ... also is it important to do the Sync Now feature on the phone? Because I dont wana sync my outlook contacts? as they are diffrent from my google and facebook contact list?
[HTC Incredible S] bernlim:
how to remove htc sync but not the drivers? just uninstall normally?

edit: sorry didnt see the replies!

still stuck at method 2 though...
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
are u still stuck after uninstalling HTC sync > reboot PC

and doing the entire process again ?

r u on windows 7 64 bit version too?
[HTC Incredible S] ultim:
guys try setting your phone to airplane mode, think that did the trick for me
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
what the heck, i'm going to try that
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
Can someone now please post a detailed step by step guide on how to permanently root the Incredible S. I'm a noob and the guide posted by attn1 leaves me a bit clueless.
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
it's in the orginal post dude
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
That is for S-OFF, I've seen the permanent root guide by attn1, but I need a more detailed guide, I don't really get the first post.
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
R u still facing problems to get S off on a windows machine?? Do you have access to a Linux machine or may be a Virtual Linux ?? we can try the Linux version of the AplhaRevX
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
read the post again well man, there's a link for things to do after s-off.

you've seen Attn1's post? and can't understand it?
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
sad to say i don't, but someone just confirmed that asian roms will fail using alpharevx
[HTC Incredible S] Nabeeltanz:
WOOOT WOOOT!!!! IM DONE!!!!

Just bought my RED IS yesterday and the S-off procedure was out! :D

Read the two threads, and then followed this!!! WOOT AGAIN! got s-off!!!
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
Have you got permanent root as well?
[HTC Incredible S] nicotyne:
are u referring to me? if so,sorry if my post bring some confusion..its just that most people who are on asia rom failed to use alpharevx but succeeded once they switch to eu rom..there might b other unknown reason..but for me,i came to the conclusion that asia rom= failed

LOLZ
[HTC Incredible S] pakman00:
I'm on an Asian rom and having similar problems like you. Where did you hear that bit about alpharevX not working with Asian roms?
[HTC Incredible S] Nabeeltanz:
^Nope Im jus luking ito it now, was busy after i put it to s-off...

Ill pm u ryt :)
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
Anybody try SuperOneClick to get permanent root?
[HTC Incredible S] nikhil007mmus:
Guys who can't get thru this... update the sw to the euro rom a cmplete ruu and then try the alpharevx method it will work fr sure .. for Asia rom the method doesn't work . @Cardii chk the development section .. get root for s-off devices gingerbread :)
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
Hi Guys,

I managed to get permanent root using Gingerbreak v1.2. Just follow these steps.

1. Download Astro File Manager (Free or Paid)

2. Download Gingerbreak v1.2 from the Gingerbreak thread on XDA (Google it)

3. Place Gingerbreak.apk on your SD Card (no format required)

4. Run Astro File Manager and install Gingerbreak

5. Reboot phone

6. Open Gingerbreak and click Root Device

7. Takes a few mins to root, phone should automatically boot and if you find Superuser installed then you have permanent root. In some cases you might have not have an automatic reboot, in that case you'll get a message along these lines 'Reboot has failed, please reboot manually and check if Superuser has been installed'. If the process is hanging at the 'Rooting Device' for longer than 10 mins, just reboot the phone and try again.

8. You should have root.

Hope this was helpful. Thank you to knightrocker for the instructions.
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
Your welcome :)
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
i read that if im already in 2.3.3 that i can't flash to 2.2.1?
[HTC Incredible S] Cardiiiii:
Nope. Don't think you can downgrade.
[HTC Incredible S] neo-X:
Guys those of you on the asian rom and it isn't working get a goldcard and flash this

http://www.multiupload.com/7KZ26DUGJ8

and it should work.

After 8 hours i finally got it working!!!!:):):):)
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
can i do this even if i'm already in GB?
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
@Nikhil: Please add this information into your tutorial.

If AlphaRevX isn't working for you (kept "hanging" at Step 2 i.e. attempting to get root). This was because AlphaRevX doesn't work with certain carrier variants are GingerBreak patched (thanks to kmdm for pointing that out. Quote below)

It didn't work for me on the India/Asia version.

To check your software version, go to settings > about > software version > build version. If it says 2.12.720.5, I'm sorry but you'll have to do the Optus/Virgin AU ROM installation.

Here are the steps to do that:

1) Download the Optus ROM (261 MB)

2) create a gold card

3) run the ROM installer and wait for it to extract, go to your tmp folder (start > run > %tmp% > sort by date > see newest folder > dig in deep and find rom.zip)

4) take rom.zip and put it on your SD with the name PG32IMG.zip

5) Reboot your phone into boot loader (this can be done by switching your phone off, waiting 5 seconds, turning your phone on with the volume down pressed). It will see that you have PG32IMG.zip so it will verify and install it. It will come to the boot loader again and once it's done installing it will load the OS (the regular HTC white page followed by Optus' logo. Once you're in the OS, remove PG32IMG.zip

6) Follow the instructions that Nikhil gave you in this thread's first post

You should have S-Off almost immediately (if you're lucky :)). I did.

Once you're done, you can follow the [Info] After AlpharevX: installl Clockworkmod, root & more thread :)

Thanks to kmdm from #alpharevx on freenode for telling us that AlphaRevX doesn't work with certain carrier variants. Mine is a India/Asia HTC Incredible S on which I ran the OTA to get me some Gingerbread action.

As he said, the Optus AU RUU worked perfectly. I have S-Off! :)

Any questions? :)

Update: yauhoman reports that his SW version 2.12.708.4 couldn't get s-offed on AlphaRevX too.. awaiting confirmation if the Optus RUU worked for him (I see no reason why it shouldn't)

Update 2: Another query I've been getting via PM is one I think can be added to the FAQ

<JAnderton> kmdm: I'm on HTC IS sw version 2.12.720.5. should I install RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.12.405.7_Radio_20.2804.30.085AU_3805.04.03.22_M_release_187295_signed (from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1033922)

<@kmdm> JAnderton: you won't be able to, you have a newer version, that'll be blocked by the main version check

:)

Update 3: When trying to install the Optus ROM from the Gold Card, if you get a CID error, I think it's because your Gold Card is not properly created. Please refer to the steps again. Make sure you took the CID from mmc2 which is for your memory card as opposed to mmc0 which is your internal memory. Did you load the drive and not the partition in your hex editor?

Update 4: Got Gold card issues? Read http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15040723&postcount=122
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
Im on 2.12.720.5 getting stuck on Aquiring root method... so now per john downloading RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_Optus_AU_2.12.980.2_R_Radio _20.2803.30.085AU_3805.04.03.12_M_release_185028_s igned I hope it works now get me S OFFED :D thanks for ur post.
[HTC Incredible S] nikhil007mmus:
dont worry it will .. first post edited and updated :)
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
@Nikhil Im from Pune too :)
[HTC Incredible S] Dr34mc4tch3r:
I have succes on Win7x64 now! I will try to recreate the actions.

Pc Settings:

Disabled antivirus

Disabled windows firewall in the control panel -> security settings

Allways run stuff as admin

Newest HTC Sync, after installing removed but kept drivers.

Phone Settings:

Software: 2.12.405.7 (Dutch carier "Hi'), 2.3.3, HBOOT 1.13.000

Airplane Mode "ON'

USB-Debug "ON"

Charge Only

Fastboot option under power setting "OFF"

After these setting i rebooted the phone and then checked if the setting were still the same. I also rebooted the PC after deinstalling HTC Sync

If you used temp root before, you should clean up the /data/local/tmp* folder by 'adb shell rm /data/local/tmp*'

If you don't have adb, you didn't temproot, so you won't have to the the cleanup

Okay:

1. Ran cmd.

2. ran alpharevx as admin

3. fill out serialkey n stuff

4. attempting root finally succeeded and did not get shrinking 23 to 0 loop anymore.

5. after that it all went so fast :P

I tried it numerous times before with the same settings, with failure. BROTIP: Try different USB Ports.

Good luck Guys!

P.S.> If you get invalid serial key, you might want to copy the beta key given to word and change the font to a more clear one. (I first thought l(small L) was either 1 or I or i
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
i am now able to flash the RUU. but still lhanging in the acquiring root. i'll try again.
[HTC Incredible S] ultim:
Does the Alpharevx hack make radio s-off aswell?
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
can i just use rom manager to install clockworkmod?
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
Not sure mate. I did it the old fashioned way.. it's just a reboot :)

Made one mistake though.. I didn't take a backup of my Indian Gingerbread ROM before I flashed the Optus AU RUU. Optus has terrible bloatware. The Indian version was a lot cleaner only having HTC stuff on it. Nothing carrier specific (since I bought it from an independent shop instead of a carrier).

If any Indians here (Nikhil/muk12) have a backup of the ROM, could you pass it on to me? :)

With S-Off and root, time to install some ROMs. Waiting for Android Revolution to get downloaded :D
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
Or just copy paste it ;)
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
thanks mate! thank you very much!
[HTC Incredible S] hussainmushahid:
just flashed a european rom and hope it works out :)
[HTC Incredible S] cooljais:
thanks guys for the instructions..... done successfully.
[HTC Incredible S] pakman00:
thanks for the link man... couldn't access the links from the thread with the official RUU's... work like a charm... I am officially S-off and rooted... woot!! Thanks of course to the OP for providing the guide and links.
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
yeah thanks to the DEV guys and those who posted instructions.
[HTC Incredible S] nikhil007mmus:
@John Anderton bro my backup is of 1.35 gb :P so i dnt think cn upload !!

m glad for all the of the users who get s-off !!
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
Im an andron0ob :P how to take back of the Indian ROM I can upload ....and now I uninstalled HTC Sync Rebooted the PC Rebooted the Phone - Charge Only , Dubug Mode ON and AplhaRevX stuck at 'awaiting for deivice" and when in command prompt tried abd devices doesnt find the phone :(
[HTC Incredible S] hussainmushahid:
it worked and I'm S-OFF now, thank you very much AlphaRevX

I used the European WWE Rom, disabled my firewall, ran alpharevx as administration, enabled airplane mode and walla Lemonade :D
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
Nikhil I m preparing gold card now - How to back the Stock ROM with S ON and without having su permisssions? I can may be try to share it via torrent or Dropbox?
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
I think I have messed up in those making cold card step

after Now Click on the 'Removable Disk' tab. Highlight offset (line) 0000000 to offset (line) 00000170 (include the 0000170 line too), then click on the 'Edit' menu and select 'Paste Write'. It will copy Down on to your Mmc card .

Click on the 'File' menu and select 'Save', accepting the warning.

I tried to test the Memory card All I get now an Error - insert disk into drive - I cant even right click and format it :(
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
Are you sure you entered your CID correct? If not, you'd get the wrong img and write the wrong code :(
[HTC Incredible S] worshishen:
just flashed the eur RUU and s-offed my IS. tried a couple of roms but experencing random crash on all of them. any asia IS owners have this problem too after they s-offed thier device ?
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
i came from Asian ROM no problem as of this time.
[HTC Incredible S] worshishen:
nvm i just realised the problem ... my phone was clocked too high
[HTC Incredible S] zanef7:
I got s-off last night and have been flashing back and fourth today between the hd rom and the ported pyramid rom. I've done full wipes and cleanly flashed both roms a few times yet they both randomly freeze and/or reset. I saw that this was happening to someone else who got s-off using this method. Any ideas what could be wrong? I have a bell IS.
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
\AlphaRevX/

Hey Need ur help setting this up.

I have just formatted my /SD Card from Windows Disk Management. Going to follow Making goldcard steps religiously again.

on the 3) run the ROM installer and wait for it to extract, go to your tmp folder (start > run > %tmp% > sort by date > see newest folder > dig in deep and find rom.zip)

4) take rom.zip and put it on your SD with the name PG32IMG.zip

when I run the ROM installer DO I need to keep the phone connected in Debug Mode? or unplug the phone and on the ROM install just go NEXT NEXT NEXT?

I have goldcard ready now :- I had messsed up on these steps

Now Click on the 'Removable Disk' tab. Highlight offset (line) 0000000 to offset (line) 00000170 (include the 0000170 line too), then click on the 'Edit' menu and select 'Paste Write'. It will copy Down on to your Mmc card .

Click on the 'File' menu and select 'Save', accepting the warning. now I can open the Memory card :)

Need Help with 3) run the ROM installer and wait for it to extract, go to your tmp folder (start > run > %tmp% > sort by date > see newest folder > dig in deep and find rom.zip)

I ran the RUU install Sheild wizard without the phone being connected and on the last step it said cant detect ur Android Phone I clicked Exit went to %temp% viewed the newest folder - IT WAS BLANK??? please help wit this

***************Foundrom.zip and put it on your SD with the name PG32IMG.zip now booted the phone with volume down and its extracting PG32IMG.zip HOPE THIS WORKS

:DSUCESS-Life Gave us Lemons,We didnt make Lemondae

Thanks to Nikhil and John CHEERS .
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
hey mate, sorry i didn't do it that way, i created the gold card, and then downloaded an official WWE RUU and ran that, i didn't do the steps you indicated above
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
Ha ha Its all done now

Just used Gingerbreak and rebooted the phone

got SU now :)

I need help with CLockworkd mod and stuff , what is it all about?
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
It's required for recovery and to install ROMs as well :)

At least that's how I do it :)

Recovery = if phone gets soft bricked (ROM fails or something), go here and restore an earlier backup (kinda like system restore only more like an entire system image)
[HTC Incredible S] muk12:
Do I get ROM manager from the market ?
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
erm no.. most ROMs I've see (or at least the Android Revolution HD that I wanted) have to be installed without ROM manager.

1) take the CWM's zip

2) rename it to pg32img.zip

3) put it in your sd card

4) boot to hboot

5) it will ask you if you want to install recovery

6) say yes

7) reboot to your OS

8) remove the zip from your sd card

9) go back into hboot

10) select recovery this time

11) go into backup and create a backup of your current OS into your SD card

12) Load your OS again

13) take any rom zip and put it into your SD card

14) boot into HBoot

15) select recovery

16) install from zip

17) select the rom zip and confirm with yes

18) you have your rom installed

At least that's what I did for Android Revolution HD.

Added the Sense 3.0 zip to the SD and repeated the procedure. ;)
[HTC Incredible S] ltcaugust13:
Does anyone have such an unique IS like mine?

I want to S-Off with AlpharevX but keep getting stuck at acquiring root.

After many tries I give up tried the Goldcard method and the Optus ROM.

Then another problem.

I keep getting incorrect CID while using the goldcard.

Anyone got any bright ideas other than smashing my phone with a hammer?
[HTC Incredible S] x1123:
IMHO, Goldcard is for messing the CID, to enable phone updated with ROM by other than released by Carrier (operator), as well as xtc-clip ... but Im not tech-savvy. I can see stock recovery Incd S this recovery have no access to /data/something. Factory recovery only wiping cache.

To obtain stock recovery, Hboot > factory reset > volume up (during the recovery working).

I cant get s-off either with alpharevx win and linux, Im not suggesting to smash this IS with hammer :p

This phone is really strong, I did many thing before alpharevx, sending gingerbreak to temp folder (after temproot), try to exploiting no luck, many combination of pushing volume power button during recovery (factory reset). All just back to normal :D

I dunno how to send a dynamite inside the / and /data folder HBOOT is in the folder reside.
[HTC Incredible S] x1123:
I believed you succeed in making goldcard, the correct goldcard will not ask to be formatted when inserting into phone or card reader and connect to pc. Goldcard is not for obtain s-off. I believed goldcard just messing CID, and probably work to unlock the lock by carrier/operator. Signed Hboot is totally locked. BTW, signed Hboot phone is very secure phone, no virus or else will be able to touch phone software system.

on the other way, user also can not take off bloatware etc. Unsigned Hboot and rooted ROM is dangerous in fact since virus or else will get full access to the system, virus can wipe everything stored in the eMMC.

Im not dev, and not understand android platform, but linux architecture is designed to be safe since regular user have no access to system, only admin (root) or user with root previllege will be able to touch system.