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[General Questions and Answers] shifty001:
Hi all,

Was hoping I could get a bit of help with my dilema!!!

I am due for an upgrade at the end of this month and cannot make up my mind as to which mobile to go for!

Over the last 12 months I have been learning to develop applications for android while on a work placement via my University. I have found this to be a steep learning curve as my Java knowledge was very limited, will I continue? not sure yet...! But, I do like the HTC Desire HD whether developing android apps or not.

On the otherside of the coin.....

Next year (this coming October) I will be learing to develop Windows phone 7 applications while on my third and final year. While I am still a novice with Silverlight and Expression Blend, I have had some considerable experience over the last 2 years writing C# code to develop Windows forms and ASP.Net sites, and have looked into developing for WP7 and feel quietly confident that this will be better than my experience developing for android.

I have never held a WP7 let alone used one and have read a number of negative reviews online about them. However, due to the areas I will be studying next year and my current knowledge I cannot decide on what handset to get, and as my contract will be for 2 years I want to make sure im stuck with the right one! :)

I havn't got a clue as to which WP7 is the best and am not fixed on the HTC Desire HD either...

I would like to hear from both android and WP7 developers / consumers your views on both OS's and preferred handsets.... from both a developers and a consumers point of view...... Also if there is anything that should be avoided i.e. specific versions of android / WP7 OS's?

Thanks guys! :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] Arbron:
Sprint signed a $20 billion 15 year agreement with Lightsquare to build and use a 4G LTE network.

It made me put a halt in buying the 3D, as I would rather have LTE than WiMax. If only for the better building penetration, I get no 4G at work with my Evo, but a friend gets almost full bars with LTE.

But I suppose it would be at least a year before the network launches with LTE phones anyway right?
[HTC EVO 3D] Tbonekilla:
Why? If you have an upgrade now use it. It will be some time before it will be operational and have phones for it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Meanee:
Considering how "fast" wimax deployment was, you could get the 3D without much risk, IMO.
[HTC EVO 3D] smalltownbird:
If they just signed the delivery expect it to be a while before the conversion even starts and the even longer before they start hitting anything but very large markets
[HTC EVO 3D] Arbron:
My city is always one of the first to get new networks. Austin, TX. We have Dell, IBM, Intel, Google, and AMD all with large offices here, I assume that's why.

But yeah I think I should be good waiting and getting the Evo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] davec1234:
I knew wimax was a stupid move, no surprise.
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Thank God, screw verizon
[HTC EVO 3D] Semantics:
And they picked the LTE service that has huge problems with GPS interference, how awesome!!
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
You're speculating that it will have better building penetration, because we don't know what frequency band it will be initially launched on.

Right now, Sprint has access to the 2.5ghz band, where WiMax sits. If sprint uses it for an initial launch, building penetration won't be any better then with WiMax.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
You all are speculating that Sprint will even use them for mobile data and not backhaul.
[HTC EVO 3D] donatom3:
I'm pretty sure in the deal Sprint is providing the network. That's the main thing that's in it for Lightsquared.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
I like Wimax. LTE will just be a bonus. Wimax does a great job as is.
[HTC EVO 3D] cniels01:
I too like Wimax, but I think LTE has greater long term potential. I am glad that Sprint is investing in LTE.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I dont have time right now to search for ya but jump into the Evo4G general forum and search clearwire and read up a lot there.

LTE is NOT better than WiMax and vice versa. Its all about the network and how the tech is deployed to us. You put LTE on the same towers as WiMax is right now and same freq, then you will end up with the exact same problems we all have right now with WiMax.

That news there is lil old too, and even more so Clear got the clear to increase the width of their channels from 5.5MHz to 20MHz from the FCC. They ran tests long ago at 20MHz and were hitting 80Mbps! Though yes speed is nothing if you can't connect to it. lol

its all about tower placement and freq and combination of the two.

Since your new, you should search around and read up on Sprints Project Leapfrog(Network Vision Upgrade) that is underway and will be better for Sprint and all of us.
[HTC EVO 3D] DataDork:
Upgrade every year.. no worries. LTE wont hit the market in the next few months.. i dont expect to see it in the next 6 months. The E3D will do you just fine till a LTE phone is avail, and by then, your going to want to get the next best phone out anyways.

enjoy the phone or whatever phone you choose to go with.
[HTC EVO 3D] cniels01:
Here is a good article about Wimax and LTE:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/060710-tech-argument-lte-wimax.html
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
Could you provide me the link of Clear getting the clear from FCC? Their June 9th proposal was scrapped, which means either means postpone for a later date, or nixed completely. I'm going to wait for official news with Sprint, Clearwire, and Cox, before I speak on the matter. Your post is the bigger news to me.

Edit: I've just taken a peek at the tentative agenda, and the actual june meeting, and it wasn't there. July 12th the next meeting.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
Bwahahahahaha!! You right, but you're speculating that we're speculating that you're speculating that we're speculating on what Sprint's speculating!

It seems no one really knows what's going on ... That includes Sprint! Did I just speculate again?
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Ahah, found something definitive. According to this article I just found it seems they are indeed planning to switch to LTE. So now I just wonder what the benefits of LTE over WiMAX are? Bit for bit WiMAX is more efficient so it's not that.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/fcc-consider-proposal-could-boost-clearwire-network-speeds/2011-05-23
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah, I found it completely odd that no blog or anyone else mentioned anything about the stuff after the date came and went with nothing big announced at all so I ended up emailing the FCC Press Secretary, Office of the Chairman Neil Derek Grace. He looked into the specific agenda item which i found odd to be on the pre-prelim agenda and then when the next prelim agenda for that meeting was released it was not on there at all and no notice of its removal b/c it wasn't the actual prelim agenda right before the mtg.

Here is what I wrote him:

Here are the two quotes from Neil in regards to the issue.

Now I looked for that through the FCC site through their search but couldn't find it b/c the results were nothing near what I wanted it seemed. In the end I figured he was right as it took him a few days to get me an official answer on it. His first response was for me to hang while he looked into it.

Though if you find anything different to conflict with that let me know and ill be sure to shoot the guy back and see whats up.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
It's economies of scale.... If everyone else is using LTE, it will make equipment (cell site/handset) costs lower. It would also allow Sprint to enter into roaming agreements with other carriers to make their coverage area look bigger then what it is.

Yeah, it's speculation again, but it makes sense....

BTW, have you see Sprint's new coverage map? Looks like they got a go ahead from their lawyers to cover the US as if 3G and voice coverage was the same as Verizons. Even those areas that they lost coverage in, because of the Alltel issue, looks like it never happened. You basically have to read into the descriptions and really, really look at the map to know what kind of coverage it is. They have non-3G areas colored to look as you have 3G roaming there!
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Think they took what clear said out of context some there in that last sentence. Notice it wasn't quoted either there.

The closest I've herd clear say anything about LTE is that they have tested it and it works quite well along side WiMax and see both working along side each other in the future.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
Wow, you're not playing lol. Majority were going crazy over the EVO 3D news, Photon, or iPhone news, and you didn't forget. So Mr. Grace said it was approved before the meeting. Where is the 11-81 document at?

@hausx: What you've posted is what me and slaughter is referring to.

@crabjoe: LTE Roaming agreements will be the hardest stepping block for everyone using that technology.
[HTC EVO 3D] mario23:
I agree with the previous post...from what I've read, nothing will happen here for quite some time. By the time it does matter, it'll be time to upgrade again.
[HTC EVO 3D] jessejames111981:
LTE sounds better therefor its a better selling point

"Sprint Now network, now with EVO LTE"

Really it sells. Honestly Wimax might be a bit slow compared to lte but for a phone its fast enough for me. The only time I have a problem with the speed is hen I tether it to my laptop and try to stream HD videos..... which I'm not even supposed to be doing because I don't pay sprint $30 to tether. On mobile internet devices it'd be really great. But Wimax might of been the first 4g, a year later it has the reputation to be the outdated 4g. If they want to attract subscibers its a good move.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
You got me. I found their search on the FCC site almost useless with the results I was getting. I'll email him back and see if he can get me a direct link.
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
its pointless to not buy 3d, by the time LTE shows up you will probably be up with your contract of get an early upgrade just like verizon started offering to customers.

Sprint is actually going about it the smart way, lending their existing infrastructre and getting paid on top of that. I mean its a win win situation for them, if Lightsquared can get their stuff sorted out about interference, then we are all good.
[HTC EVO 3D] jshields1986:
hey im in austin as well, well north austin so i dont get the full benifets of 4g, but when im DT i enjoy the hell out of it
[HTC EVO 3D] thepyro6:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/lightsquared-announces-solution-for-gps-issue-says-lte-networ/

I think that says what you're looking for. Sorry if i am wrong. I didn't read the full press release.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Just finally herd back from the PR guy Neil.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
The agenda Neil is referring too, is not the same proposal Clearwire wanted.

Neil's response :

Two different proposals. BRS and EBS vs BSS and DBS
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
thought it looked different. Back to emailing this guy again. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
Yeah, copy my quote in your email. Props to Neil though, he's actually giving you feedback on the matter and supplying documents for it. Clearwire asking for the proposal tells you that they are serious about LTE, and are planning the switch with Sprint.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah copied the quote and gave him a link to the document that had that agenda item in it too. he Should be aware of it since his name is on the top of the release. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] mozman:
Does the LTE partnership mean that we will not see anymore growth in Wimax 4G coverage? If so, then that stinks. But I understand why Sprint wouldn't spend more money to expand a 4G network that will go away in the future (1-2yrs?) and be replaced. Has Sprint talked about wimax growth plans?
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Well he finally got back to me and said it was adopted.

Here is a link to the publication:

http://www.fcc.gov/document/amendme...-rules-facilitate-provision-fixed-and-mobil-0
[HTC EVO 3D] tatnai:
From what I understand the new towers that Sprint is deploying can easily add "cards" for different services, such that adding LTE would be popping in a card next to the wimax card and both would work just fine. There was a whole thread on this in the evo 4g section with links upon links.

Also with the new deployment of these towers Sprint is supposed to move to relying far less if at all on roaming, which is supposed to be one of the large cost savers of the large tower deployment. And no I don't have a link.

Supposedly new towers = better 3G, better voice coverage, wimax + lte side by side without a ton of additional overhead, and less reliance (if at all) on roaming. Win win for Sprint and its customers, to be completed end of 2012.

Links are all in the Evo4g general section, not going looking for it now.
[HTC EVO 3D] wcooper0077:
okay so everyone is talking about LTE but whats odd is when i was working at Intel they were the people that started WIMAX by the way. intel stated that WIMAX can ramp all the way to 100meg a second and i mean really who needs that on there dang phone...

On a diff note i live in southeast texas and they dont even show 4g wimax in my area so i was like oh well no biggie well today for giggles i turned it on and low and behold i have 4g lol tested at 7meg down 1.5 up
[HTC EVO 3D] systematicdecline:
Me
[HTC EVO 3D] bmoreboy02:
I live in baltimore and we were the 1st city to get wimax. You cant go anywhere in baltimore and not get 4g lol. eff lte
[HTC EVO 3D] tomh1979:
the first city, or one of the first 35 cities to get it on launch day june 6th, 2010:D, cause that is 2 different things, there were 35 cities on launch day of the the OG evo, unless your talking 4g in general which was not originally launched on a mobile device, which shouldn't really matter much to anyone here, am i right.:p
[HTC EVO 3D] treckin:
True, I was using clearwires 4G modem along side my HTC ppc6700 in californias central valley
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
Baltimore had a mobile Nokia Wimax device on Xohm, those were good times. The N810 WE or something. I got to test it for a month. It was the size of a blackberry playbook though and it painfully lacked PIM apps. Kinda like the playbook :p
[HTC EVO 3D] cranialsurge:
4G Penetration

Hopefully this has some sort of (I highly doubt it) an impact on the rate of acceleration with which 4G coverage is spreading (or not) across the nation. Its been annoying having 4G phones and paying an extra $10 to Sprint under the pretext of premium data plans (apparently because these phones tax their b/w and it isn't because this is a 4G charge which IMO is BS). Its been close to a year now and I'm still "basking" in 3G world :(
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
Read it in its entirety, and Clearwire received good support on this proposal. FCC adopted it, but they are seeking more comment on the affect of widening the channels. Knowing the limits of WiMax, this was a major move towards their LTE testing, and other future 4G technology, though this doesn't help the current WiMax revision. I think once DO-Advanced is complete , Sprint and Verizon would be wise enough to switch to it. If not, go towards Rev. B.

Anyway, thanks for this info.
[HTC EVO 3D] evantribley:
Baltimore was the first city with 4G through Sprint's Xohm service in 2008. They have been enjoying 4G for quite a bit longer than the rest of us!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] alenzini:
EDIT: Just in case anyone else wants it I learned how to extract files from an apk. I've attached the wallpaper.

Hi,

Any chance someone can extract the default stock wallpaper? I'd like to use it on my phone and can't find it via Google.

Thanks in advance,

Andy
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Powerful, Fast, Loaded with Features, Beautiful lines, and upgradable with latest highest quality parts (ROMs from the awesome devs)

And that's all I have to say.

Sent from my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
+1:D....i was thinking more like a bugatti
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Hahaha

Sent from my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] icecicle04:
Only me n it cause the bugattis a coupe loll
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
turn u into a vegetable like u lie in the soup!:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
I'm loving these G2X love threads. It's about time we heard some of the positives of this phone over all the complaints. Not to say there aren't some legit issues for some people, but not all of us got lemons.

This phone is awesome!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
That is exactly right

Oh man when I shift to 3rd gear on my G2x this thing takes off

Lol

Sent from my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Vaddy23:
Of course the G2X is a lambo, but you want to know what else it is? A chic magnet! I was at the library today sitting next to a dime piece, as I reached for my phone to answer a call (I forgot to put the phone on vibrate) she glanced over and asked me what kind of phone I had. I told her it was a G2X and it needed her number ASAP! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sarni84:
lmao!!!!:D
[T-Mobile LG G2x] melinton:
I told me girlfriend she was a g2x and my Ex was the sensation.. I'd pick the g2x everytime ;)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

It doesn't get geeker than this but is awesome.

Sent from my G2x
[T-Mobile LG G2x] brett_day:
even supercars break down
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
Lol nice. I just read that to my wife and:

Wife -- "What about me?"

Me -- "Which do you think you are?"

Wife -- "I better be the freakin' Lamborghini!"

Lol
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Vaddy23:
Lol thatta boy!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] 1stworks:
I like mine too ..
[T-Mobile LG G2x] moshe22:
This cracked me up LOL

I'm going to read it to my wife today and see what she says.

Sent from my G2x
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
Well guys, in less than a week many of us will have our shiny new EVO 3D's, with many more to follow, and this forum will become even more inundated than it is now.

We had an OTL in the Hero forum and one in the EVO 4G forum. They are, imo, a good place to socialize and help cut down on off-topic chatter in the rest of the forum.

Without further adieu I present the..

HTC EVO 3D

OFF TOPIC LOUNGE​

fyi:

If you guys like it maybe we can get this one stickied too..

Special thanks to cbarlan a.k.a. PapaSmurf for championing the cause back in early '10 when things were getting ridiculous in the Sprint Hero forum, good times ;)

Enjoy :D
[HTC EVO 3D] iSaint:
Nice idea ...

Reserved.
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
lmao

well now I have to get a smoking jacket for posting in the OTL
[HTC EVO 3D] dfskevinohyeah:
TEAM FORTRESS WOOT, counter strike still my favorite :)
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
I've been playing through Fallout NV the last week or so, love the Fallout games :D
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
New Vegas is pretty sweet, but I sure miss my combat shotgun. :( Been replaying Borderlands on the 360, personally.

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[HTC EVO 3D] readingkeeper:
Hey iSaint, you're moving from the Epic?
[HTC EVO 3D] iSaint:
Lol doubt it ... I'd miss those guys to much. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jessejames111981:
Lets go phillies!!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] gmelchert:
hope the giants beat the a's tonight
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
Fallout is Awesome, and PS3 is FTW. Killzone 3 is fun, Black Ops is ....OK and Im a huge fan of SC2. :D

Diablo3 Im waiting....................been waiting.....................its been way to long.
[HTC EVO 3D] jessejames111981:
OMG your location says oakland an you are rooting for the other bay area team? Isn't that as bad as being a Yankee/Mets fan in philly? But philly fans are agressive hen it comes to sports
[HTC EVO 3D] kill_dumbasses:
Gotta agree, Fallout is the sh!t, but 360 kicks ass, as much as I dislike PSN, I still get perks for it being down, so glad I had a PSP 5 years ago :D
[HTC EVO 3D] gmelchert:
been a fan of the orange n black since day one man. screw the a's
[HTC EVO 3D] clark44:
I just can't belive Miami lost
[HTC EVO 3D] readingkeeper:
I'm hoping more of them will come over. This forum needs more sammichez.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
SC2 Is FTW. Fallout 3 is my favorite Xbox 360 game. You've earned yourself a thank you.
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
Yeah, it's been a wait for Diablo 3, but not as long as the Duke Nukem fans had to wait for that god awful steaming pile that they just got.

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[HTC EVO 3D] vinterchaos:
Here is a few pics from the Bruins parade yesterday I felt would be fun to share :)
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
lol! Haven't seen that pile yet. When the next Splinter Cell finally arrives I'm taking a week off work :p

And I've given up any hope for a successor to SimCity4 :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Greenkknight101:
hmmm random?

I've never been thanked. *Cries* :eek:

No one appreciates my love!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
THANK YOU for stopping by the E3D OTL :p
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
I just ate an omelet... FOR DINNER! I'm so kooky!

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[HTC EVO 3D] dimebagdan65:
Can't wait till fridaaaaaaaaay!
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
Hey buddy, maybe you didn't notice the sign over the door.. this is the OFF TOPIC thread, you're walking a tightrope talking about release dates and whatnot.

...lolj/k

I'm so exited it's embarrassing. I took this Friday, Saturday and Sunday off just so I'd have plenty of time with my new baby :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Greenkknight101:
YES! i got one!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
And let the games begin!! :)

Sent from "Deebo The Evo" via XDA premium
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
OMIGOODNESS!! Look at all those boxes full of EVO 3D's!! :eek::eek:

:p

Brown is hawt
[HTC EVO 3D] readingkeeper:
Is it just me, or do the boxes say "Parts" and then have an arrow pointing to her boobs?
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
Fortunately Diablo 3 will be the **** and like always Ill be Beta testing like I did on SC2. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Droga:
Crazy thing is that some of the boxes have

FedEx

labels on them hahahhaah!
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
Lady Gaga has made it big time now, she has recieved the blessing of Weird Al.

Perform This Way video
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
lawl, I think he was more making fun of her. All his other parodies usually have nothing to do with the artist.
[HTC EVO 3D] mcampos7:
Listing price for OG Evo on ebay

Listing my OG Evo today. Rooted/NAND unlocked, 3500mAh extended battery, innocase II holster, 2 stock batteries, 8gb microSD, stock charger w/htc usb....

Where would you guys start out as far as listing price goes??

Giving the auction a few days to build up before I get my 3D.

Suggestions appreciated, otherwise flame on.....
[HTC EVO 3D] selders59:
The average I have seen people selling their eco's for is $250.

"Hell I don't know anymore"
[HTC EVO 3D] readingkeeper:
Vevo ruins everything. But that video must have taken forever to make.
[HTC EVO 3D] user7618:
I agree, but I couldn't find the actual video on youtube.

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[HTC EVO 3D] readingkeeper:
Only Vevo has the actual video as of right now. YouTube just has the lyrics :(
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
Bumping just because I know you guys are tired of talking about the E3D already.

I mean seriously launch day is two days away, the hype is pretty much over, amiright?

LMAO.. yeah.. j/k
[HTC EVO 3D] CuzinBucksBx:
Still waiting for my.....Glasses :P
[HTC EVO 3D] readingkeeper:
We should get LulzSec to hack HTC and give us the key to unlock the bootloader.
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
Hey does anyone know if I give my mom my evo do I have unroot or just flash a sense rom to do the number swap? Thanks in advance.

don't forget to bring a towel!
[HTC EVO 3D] mayfield103:
If you want to get sick try looking through the 3d camera while driving down the highway. =]

don't forget to bring a towel!
[HTC EVO 3D] Papa Smurf151:
Wow I got a shout out in the op woohoo. Can't wait to get me 3vo but I'm not due til Feb. C u guys then...if not sooner maybe
[HTC EVO 3D] nebenezer:
Dude, you gotta get one, if they unlock it :/

Sprint's price is 549 and they'll give you 150 for your evo.. Skin a twitter widget or something ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] dirkyd3rk:
Dirk made it! Lol