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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
Well guys, I received my replacement tab from Amazon less than a week ago and yesterday the spot appeared, I haven't taken my tab outside of the house since got it...it was a little hot in here but not too much...I noticed the rings last night when I placed the tab on a table and my phone was under it, making pressure to the center of the screen, from the back...so I think its a design issue rather than heat/moisture...maybe the plastic back is so easy to bend so either with a little pressure the lcd touches the glass...that's why I think an aluminium back would work better for this kind of issues...

Btw, I'm going to return my tab to Amazon and ask for a refund, so dissapointed with Samsung and its QA dept...hope it gets fixed, so in the future I could get another...besides that, beautiful tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thepringlesguy:
I live in Arizona, but left for Maine a day after getting it. I have only seen the issue once and that was on a very warm Day and it had been sitting in the car. I am torn on whether or not to return it. I have my invisible shield already installed as well.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] flintdragon:
stop with the moisture comments. It isn't moisture. It's a combination of two things: warped (however slight) casing and temperature. Depending on the amount of warping, temperature makes it worse.

Some tablets seem to have this issue while lying flat in an air conditioned environment. I think people in this case should return it. If in your daily usage this problem is constantly there, return it.

For a good portion of us, including me, the problem (on daily normal use) only pops up if we press down on the screen harder than usual (cleaning the screen) or if we take it out into the heat.

The rest sees no issues regardless of temperature/pressure.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AndroidCR:
Well, I think that soon or later everybody will have this problem, no matter what, it is a problem by design...and bad QA that did not detect this issue before start selling it!

The warping always happen because of the way we hold the tablet, usually our fingers are placed in the back, in the middle of the tablet, at least when you are picking it up from whatever surface you have it, it's not like a phone that you can grab it from the sides with one hand...and temperature? Is this Tab meant to be used ONLY under cold temperature? I don't think so...denying that is a problem with manufacturing & design only will make Samsung ignore our complaints!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jcsfavor:
I had no problems until i left nor cal where i live by plane to denver 3 weeks after i purchsed this at bb. I just got of the phone with geek sqaud and this i unit is going back sunday. I am extremely dissapointed with this design flaw. I will get something else? I got to travel with and it appears that this design flaw will appear in all units? I wish you all the best and hope yours doesnt do this as this is or was the best display of all of them? I am not paying $600 for defective technology and design. Please raise your concerns by returning your defective unit so samsung will feel our disatisfaction and correct the problem. Its a real shame.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thepringlesguy:
I agree, i understand that it isnt moisture. It comes up very rarely. I dont think it wil be any reason to return the unit. And i just picked up the keyboard dock (which is amazing).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bhinmaine:
Has anyone with the rings issue tried my twist suggestion?

Hold the tablet on either ends with your thumbs on the glass, and very gently "twist" the device in opposing directions.

Very very gently. Don't wrench on it. I did this when the rings appeared and it seemed to have realigned the panels in the display.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
I did it on mine and it was just a temporary solution.

About moisture or not, you cannot define if this is the case without trying solutions for moisture. Because of the optical nature of the issue, moisture can help triggering the issue than a dry environment.

Daemon

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] deeren:
wow.. good i came across this thread.apparently all the hc tabs(the thin n normal ones) have some serious hw problems.

anyway, do you guys sincerely recommend purchasing this tablet?

even if i said no local warranty?

thx.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ipnekgs:
I can report that what flintdragon is saying is true. My tab behaves exactly that way.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ninja984:
Samething for me. Only if I push hard. Hopefully it doesn't end up like the others.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] adityaw:
After 3 weeks of using it without the problem, today it finally appeared. So annoying. :mad:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] uberartist:
I've had a 16GB Metallic Gray version for about 2 weeks. Purchased from Newegg, immediately noticed the "oil slick" when taking it out of the box. I live in Seattle, the weather has been cool, humidity normal (for the area).

Slick seemed to go away after a few days. Then a few days ago, it reappeared, bigger than it was when I first got it.

Because you can't see it when the screen is on and you are looking at it head on, it's not a big issue for me. I'll wait for it to be officially fixed, then look into exchanging it--seems like it's just an issue with their manufacturing process at the moment.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Patrickfra:
Hey guys i've been following this post for quite a while now and finally decided to share my experience. I bought my SGT10.1 in a new York bb about a month ago, at first I didn't notice anything on the screen but after three days a little spot appeared, it was hardly noticeable so I ignored it, in the next few days the spot grew bigger until it was like 2-3 inches long so I got worried,after a couple google search I found this post. I tried all of the solutions listed here (fridge, below dryer, and twist, silca gel) but none seemed to work, the fridge solution was helping at first but then it was making it worse so I stop trying and gave up. I kept the silica gel in the case where the gt was. One day after leaving my gt to charge overnight I notice that the spot had shrunken significantly but it was still a small spot on screen, the same day the spot disappeared completely and has not come back. Where I live is super hot + 30°c and the humidity is high. I'm guessing that with time the problem will resolve by itself, but I don't know... What do you think guys?

Sorry for the long post
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tenderidol:
Is Samsung aware of this issue? Are you guys reporting this to Samsung customer service or just exchanging units at the retailers? Unless they hear the same problem from a "certain number" of people (which can't be just 10 or 20), they won't take it seriously.

My interest in this topic is regarding the upcoming 8.9" GT. It appears that GT8.9 is just a smaller version of the 10.1 in every aspect, and I would like to know if this will be taken care of before considering the GT8.9 due to its perfect size.

Again, good luck!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
I twitted @Samsungservice about this thread and they thanked for the report. I suggest you to do the same.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cdf3:
I've had mine for over a month. Today I experienced the moisture under the screen.

It was very noticeable with the screen off, and vaguely noticeable with the screen on depending on the viewing angle.

The temperature today was also hot. Not sure if that had something to do with it.

After about 5 or 6 hours, it went away. If it happened once, I'm sure it will happen again. I'm pass my return policy for BestBuy, so I'll just have to deal with it for now.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] crash_pr:
Same issue here apperared afetr one week of use. I live in Puerto Rico and our avg. temp is about 90f.. Reported to samsung but im taking it to the store
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] apolloms:
had the tablet for a little over a week, noticed it yesterday on my way to the airport, was in the middle of my screen about a 4-5 inch section.....when i got home i threw it in the fridge and it took it away...hopefully it doesn't come back...32gb metallic here
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] juanisidrobt:
If you live in a hot part of the world forget it, don't buy this Tab, you'll end with the issue...Samsung threw it to the market because where they tested it (korea) is a cold part of the world, so nothing happened over there.

Go buy a Transformer, Xoom, Thrive or anything else...;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
I voted good (16 GB gray) although the moisture did appear once when I left it out in the sun for ~30 mins. I just stuck mine in the fridge and the moisture went away, and now I've just been careful not to leave it in hot places :p
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] milky89:
I just recieved my White 16GB 3G Tab today, and I have this problem almost over my entire screen, Seems like it is some sort of problem with the glue thats keeping the layers in the touchpanel together, causing air bubbles to form inside the screen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Sichroteph:
Received mine yesterday, the screen is perfect. I can see some little newton rings only when i press really hard the screen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jcsfavor:
As promised i returned mine sunday after returning home. Bb was gracious amd immediately offered something else or a new one. I grabbed another 32 gray. Its all amout the screen for me irionically. I hope samsung feels enough of our frustration and pain to get this design flaw fixed. I am not going to travel with this one. Whiich is why i bought it. I have one year of black tie or now 11 months to either exchange or go in another direction. I willl be calling samsung next. 2 tv's a fridge and a phone with no more purchases from old sammy till this is fixed.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] steve_clifton:
I brought 2 from Italy (2 days before it was offically released on the 7th :D)

But both have this problem, has anyone managed to get a replacement from samsung direct?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] leadwind:
Contacted Samsung

I've had my gray 16gb for about 5 days and this issue has cropped up for me. Contacted Samsung just now and they offered to send it in for repair. However, it takes 7-14 business days for turnaround. I don't think I want to risk getting stuck with this defect if it occurs again after repair/replacement. As much as I enjoy this tablet, the screen defect is unacceptable at this price point. I think at this point I'm going to return it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Raistlin1:
So far (knocks on wood) I only see this if you press on the screen with some extra force that you would normaly never do to this screen.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sfox8:
I've had my tab for about 5 days now too. It was a really hot day today and I had it in the car with me while I was driving (with the ac on) for a few minutes. When I got inside, I noticed the newtons rings about 1 inch wide. I freaked out and removed it from its case (Belkin) hoping it would cool down enough to go away and before I could even get it out of the case the spot was gone.

I'm really worried now though. I got this with the $100 coupon at Staples but I didn't get their ridiculously overpriced warranty ($160?!). Is this covered under Samsung's manufacturer warranty? Will they replace it if it gets worse? I originally returned my Transformer for this because I thought it would be all around better quality and better support, but if this issue is going to get worse, I may need to return this to Staples before my 14 day period is up. I don't wanna get stuck with a defective Tab that I can't even sell to anyone because of a damaged screen...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Phil_Glisson:
I've had by tab for a week now. It's the metallic 16gb. As I was sitting outside of the café, I noticed it for the first time. It was where most have described, approximately in the center and about 3-4" in length with no definite shape. I could only see it most pronounced at an angle. After my initial moment of dread, the experimentalist kicked on and I played with it for a few. For the record, it was in the high 80s today but the humidity is relatively low. Additionally, I was sitting in the shade where it felt 5 or so degrees cooler. Anyhow, I didn't want to press the screen too hard, but it was relatively unresponsive. I then decided to try to gently bend the tab (as if attempting to snap it in two by holding the sides) and it again did very little. When I pressed from the back of the device, however, this fluid-like substance moved quite easily. At first, I was afraid I was making it worse, believing I had separated some sort of adhesive. This caused me to pause momentarily until I bullishly decided to tamper with it again. After almost causing the blob to separate into two, I ceased my actions and pressed on the screen again. This time, it caused the substance to begin collecting into itself and shrinking. Meddling with it a couple of more moments by pressing the glass some more caused it to disappear. I can't make anything of it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Gigamaster89:
Found this online for other devices:

http://packard-bell-scandic.custhel...ail/a_id/9569/~/newton-rings-on-touch-screens

"In some cases, you may see light and dark circles show up on a touchscreen. These circular reflections are called Newton Rings and do not have any effect on the proper functioning of the LCD panel or on the touch functionality.

CAUSE

Due to temperature or pressure differences, the film used for the resistive touch screen may not perfectly adhere to the glass layer of the LCD panel. This can cause reflections showing up as coloured rings.

SOLUTION

These rings go away as the panel warms up during use, and may return again when the system has cooled down. Their occurrence is a known limitation of the used technology and does not indicate a product defect."
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tenderidol:
Let's hope Samsung doesn't take that route.

[again, my interest in this thread as a Xoom owner is due to my planned future purchase of the GT8.9]
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thepringlesguy:
Its entirely heat related, it wont stay when cooled down.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thepringlesguy:
Thats wierd, from my own expierience and most of what i read it goes away upon cooling.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Phil_Glisson:
I can only speak for myself, but insofar as my incident today goes, it was present at bootup after having been in a bag on the floor of an air conditioned car and it went away while it was powered on. It could have disappeared because I tinkered with it or because it was warming up. Either way, my experience doesn't lead me to believe it went away from cooling down. I'm not doubting you or those whose experiences are the opposite of mine. I'm just pointing out that that doesn't seem to be what worked in my particular case.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] olson0827:
I read a lot on this forum but dont post much. I havent seen a lot of positive things about the the new Tab. I just have to say I am very happy with my purchase so far. I was able to walk into my local Best Buy after 6pm on launch day and pick up a white 32GB. Funny thing is the Website stated they had 3 white and 4 black 32GB and when I got there they said all they had was the black. To make a long story short the Best Buy employee actually had to open the box and look at the Tab itself to tell if it was white or black. Apparently there is no way to tell on the outside of the box(I would assume the model number would). Anyways, I have owned the Xoom,Iconia and the Playbook and none of them hold a candle to this. Honeycomb does have a long way to go, however I do think this is a giant step foward in the right direction.

Please leave your experience so far if you are happy :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] J360:
never had a tablet before so nothing to compare it to, but so far I really dig it!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] droxid:
Ill join you on the happy part. Ive had my tab since Tuesday and I'm loving it. I haven't run into any of the issues that have been posted in some of the other threads. I'm in love with the fluu blown multitasking. I can easily jump app to app without loosing a spot. Perfect for those copy and paste situations.

Some of my favorite apps...

News360/Pulse

Native YouTube app

Thumb keyboard (must have)

PlayOn (yay hulu and Netflix)

Weatherbug for tablets

Grooveip
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ChoboNiNjA37:
I just got mine today, too. White, 16GB

I asked for a Grey 32GB one, but they had none. I still wanted a Grey one, but even though they had it in stock, they gave me a white one, and I didn't notice till I got home. They even ran out of keyboard docks too. Oh well, I'm stuck with this one now.

After a few hours of use, I started to wonder about all the negative posts and reviews on XDA and everywhere else. I do notice certain points, like how browser lags when typing, but it seemed minor to me since I noticed that the key presses still recognized, and I was surprisingly accurate and fast using it, despite this being the first tablet I've ever owned.

Games are pretty and crisp. I've only experienced some minor lag in Plants vs. Zombies at the end of each stage, otherwise it played well.

A great experience so far.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] falconeight:
i am happy with the tab but honeycomb needs some work.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] UCSB:
I've had mine since *** yesterday *** and am happy with it. The one thing that I wish I could do is color calibrate the screen. While the bright, cartoonish color is liked by many, I would like to be able to calibrate the screen for more accurate color to display photos and play the videos that I shoot. Even with my 32GB unit, I am missing the microSD slot that I have on the Nook Color.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kytz:
I'm very happy with mine. Sure, it has some issues, but nothing too bad and I believe most of them will be fixed by software updates in the future.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jnn1:
It's rather obvious, but all big smiles here too :D

Just to state a few, easy to the eye and ears(quality build, screen, speakers), easy to carry and hold(super light, thin, with textured back), responsive, fast and versatile OS (widgets thrive, google apps reign, multimedia a beauty to run, even if it currently has a few glitches like lag in typing in certain websites boxes).

Just loving it! ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xManMythLegend:
I'm loving it so far. Honeycomb does have some issues to work out.

One thing that is truly bothering me is the lack of quick controls in the browser.

The official accessories not being available is also annoying.

But man o man I'm loving the hardware ,the screen ,and the form factor.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bballer71418:
I have a 16 grey and I'm very pleased with my purchase. At the time I wanted a 32 but best buy had none in stock. I also have an unlocked version so I'm scared to return it :P can't wait for some custom kernels to fix some lag this thing has. Other then that I am very pleased. Honeycomb does need work. Hopefully the touchwiz update fixes some lag. I no it usually just bloats the system but this version seems nice! A few software kinks but love it! Can't wait for ICS (open source) that should fix pretty much everything :) for ow though very happy
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Arachnidus:
This tablet will essentially replace my phone for in house usage. Loving it so far, only wish the app support was better.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pandamaja:
I'm digging it. I sincerely hope with the 5k that were given to devs we'll get more support! :p
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ericc191:
I'm very pleased with this tablet. It feels much nicer to hold than my previous tablet.

Can someone with a 16GB tell me what their total space available is showing? Mine's at 13GB. I could have swore it was 14.2GB or somewhere around there.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Seihaku:
I'm also very happy with mine, I actually have no problems with Honeycomb itself -- but more apps need to support it. Thumb Keyboard + News360 + Flash 10.3 + Dolphin HD + YouTube + Samurai II = my Sunday.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] miguelroboso:
I just got it! By a coincidence it arrived the same day as the iPad2 I bought for my uncle, and I did a comparison side by side. Although I am used to iOS (I have an iPhone), I immediately felt honeycomb as more flexible, out of the box, than iOS. As for Aesthetic, I can say that the GT feels much lighter than the iPad, I can handle it better.

In few words: I am really happy, so far.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] tlegower:
I've had mine since Friday. I love the look and feel of the GT. It looks and feels much better than the Xoom, in my opinion (I had a Xoom for just under 2 weeks) and it's definitely lighter than the Xoom. I compared it to my gf's iPad 2 and it is a little bigger, but feels lighter. So I love this tablet.

I don't love the lack of tablet optimized apps or the lack of Netflix or Google Movies. Compared to the iPad it's definitely lacking in those areas, but the tablet itself and honeycomb are excellent.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BurntSky:
I've had my LE I/O version for about a month now and absolutely love it. It's light, feels great in my hands, it's fast, I even love Honeycomb... Not sure why so many people complain about it. Hopefully over the next few months we'll start seeing more HC versions of apps.

edit: forgot to mention the battery life is freakin amazing. I can go 3-5 days with moderate usage and it won't die.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] katlimaal:
Got one from Amazon. So far happy with it. Need to look into how to root and OC the cpu.

The smartbench 2011 score is less than Viewsonic (OCed to 1.4Ghz).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ghylton:
Im absolutely in love with my tablet
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ehosteda:
Well, I have to admit that so far I ampretty in love with this tablet. The screen is amazing and the weight and thickness make this feel really nice in the hand. I am really enjoying honeycomb so far and do not see any problems so far. I was kinda worried about buying this but I am relieved. I also really love the look of it. I have the grey one and it looks really nice. So far I am a happy tablet owner :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ky0nkyon:
Got mine today, have been playing for five hours, battery went down 2%. I think trickle charge through usb works. No way it could last so long. I love it so much. no problems at all here.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SenatorKen:
Got mine Sat. (one of two available in my half of the state!), and I was apprehensive, as I'm moving from iPad 1 and didnt know if app availability would leave me lacking. But, I'm loving the look, feel, and "raw tech" of working with this 32Gb GTS! (this forum has gone a long way in helping there). I think with the iPad, I often felt the commuity was too low tech for me to enjoy,at least on the app review sites. Def. not the case here! :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stogie5150:
Hardware: Stunning, absolutely stunning. The screen is exactly what the xoom isn't : Bright, clear, and readable. To those of us with old eyes, that matters.

Honeycomb, OTOH, is an absolute disaster. I have not sat down with the Tab and not had at least two force closes on basic, simple apps ( Facebook, yahoo, etc.) Now, whether thats the apps fault or Honeycomb's fault, or heck, maybe the hardware is the problem, I don't know.

Hopefully google and Samsung are watching this.

But saying that, I still won't ever own anything with fruit on it, so they don't have to worry. :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rjohmit:
While I had to return mine because of the "oil slick" screen issue, I loved it and cant wait to get my replacement (tomorrow).

Force closes and such don't really bother me...its the price you pay for freedom.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] mrsbelpit:
I've ordered the 16GB one, should be getting it on Friday. I can't wait. I know there are limited apps that are specifically for honeycomb, but have any of you had any trouble running the more popular android apps that you have on your phones? Has anybody tried viewing Megavideos from the browser? Does HBO Go work, either the browser or the app? Thanks.