yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] waide.soper:
I'm very interested in this too. I've installed CWM and CM7 on a 10 inch, touch screen didn't work so I restored the stock backup I took, touchscreen still does not work.

I think it would be much better if the 7, 8 and 10 were all in their own threads to avoid confusion.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] behzado:
Re: CM7 on Kogan Agora 8

No answer? :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brenwildman:
Touchscreen problem fixed yet?

So has anyone been able to recover their screen?

I bricked mine but have been able to do the NAND pin shorting trick to get into FWDN and have fun_'s cyanogen installed via FWDN (Emdoor EM73 capacitive GC2M 8K) - I have Kogan Agora 8' (EM_A100_V2 which is 8K?), but the screen doesn't work at all (black screen, no touch response). I can see the tablet has booted fine by using screencast, just the screen doesn't work at all (I initalially installed the wrong lk.rom, which caused the problem, but have not used FW_tool).

Any suggestions?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] scooterluvsbeer:
Anyone have a working cyanogenmod rom with the 10" ? Have used the EM71 but no touch screen.

Cheers

Scooter
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jahkris:
ICS?

Kogan Agora 7" tab - Build number CT-MID7007 20110826_0902

- Kernel version 2.6.35.7

- Android version 2.3.3

Anyone managed to get ICS on this tab? if so can you please explain how you did. Thank you:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chillibanana:
Where did you get CWM 4.0.0.5 from? Is that the EM73-8K-recovery-signed.zip from the OP?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chillibanana:
I've just installed CWM and rooted as per instructions in OP

I then renamed the telephony related apks as instructed.

I also installed Go Launcher from Market. After that the Market changed and I can now get most apps

Liking it so far :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defroster:
this is tcc8803 based ICS ; androidtablets.net/forum/coby-generation-2-development/38989-ics-7022-a.html

will this work on our Kogans ?

Hopefully someone will give it a shot.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defroster:
I guess no-one gave that a shot then?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Nukkels:
Personally I wouldn't want to put ICS on one of these. A work colleague just put it on his Galaxy Note and it's cut his battery life almost in half. That would make one of the Kogan tablets last about 3 hours!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defroster:
battery life isn't an issue, i'm planning to install it as a head unit in my car, which i think a fair few others are too.

e: but yes, probably 2.3.3 or whatever will do just fine... just wish i could change that damn ugly DXtreme splash logo on boot......
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] crjh:
10 " katbl10andca

This post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1912900

is relevant to this thread
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kaasis86:
Kogan Agora 7

Hi everyone. I need some help with my Kogan agora 7' tablet. I cant get past first boot logo with fastboot text and fastboot interface active. Tried to boot custom kernel from 10' but no luck to get in recovery. fastboot reboot-bootloader leads to same screen just with fastboot waiting for device.

Dont know history of device. so sorry, gonna try my best to identify problem.

1. is there any posibility to flash lk.rom and recover device?

(havent tried it yet couse may there is other options and i heard it will kill device)

2. Some other options to get device back to life?

3. is it partition table damaged that keeps device in fastboot?

4. Maybe someone have originall full dump of 7' kogan agora? And maybe someone have full update.zip that i can flash through fastboot mode.

5. Thank you for any advice before completely killing this device...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Anyone possibly know if the Joyplus M778 is the same as this device? The USB hardware ID led me to information about this tablet, and firmware for it, but I don't think I've seen it mentioned so far..

Translated forum post with the p&p ID in it (search for root to get to it quickly)

Product Page

Firmware

Not that important, but it's nice to find out if people come up with solutions. These tablets are re-branded a million times..

Just finished downloading the firmware, this string in the readme tells me yes, it is: EM73 2.3.3 SIS

As a side note, just tried playing 720p mkv in the native player on this, and it works flawlessly.. I'm actually pretty impressed
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Good spot. I'm sure this thing is just crippled by carp firmware. I would even settle for a smooth 2.2 installation if it sorted out the touchscreen & accelerometer problems. Anyone brave enough to flash the Joyplus M778 firmware & see if it works?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
For those with lock screen issues (meaning, it doesn't stay locked).

I've noticed this on my Emdoor EM73 as well. It's an issue with whichever firmware I attempt to use, however one fix for it is to have something running in the background. As odd as it sounds, If i have IMO instant messenger running the screen will stay locked. If I close it, then it'll flip on and off.

I've read somewhere that you can delete the phone part of Android (if you have root) in order to kill the Mobile Standby issue. Of course, in doing so you won't be able to use a 3G modem if you ever buy one.

Does anyone know if this is actually the EM73 from Emdoor, but rebranded? I'm a little confused on that issue.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Or you could just rename the relevant apk files to apk.bak with root explorer & rename them back again if you ever wanted to use a 3G modem. But I suspect most users will already have an Android phone that they can use for tethering.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I think so - the firmware version itself starts with EM73. That said, there are so many like this that are rebranded, maybe there's a specific vendor firmware that's the best, since it will take a while before Cyanogen has the same features as stock..

Oh, about that Joyplus M778 firmware I mentioned, it seems to have the same build date as the one on my tablet now: 2011-05-16, so there's a chance it's exactly the same. Not awfully useful, but it possibly provides a base to restore to. I haven't tried it though.

Anyone know which bit we trash to kill the mobile standby problem? I'm never going to get a 3G dongle, I'll just use the wifi hotspot on my Desire HD...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
I tried renaming phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk, but that didn't work. I have 2.3.1.

sent from EM73
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Looks very similar, but I note the absence of a front facing camera on the Joyplus.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
i get the feeling the rom needs building from the ground up without telephony in it though as i have no idea on how to do this i may be wrong. Im hoping for an answer from my post in the main forum.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
What I posted in HotUKDeals

------------------------------

Guys, have you only noticed touch screen issues when plugged into a charger? I got 2 from Kogan, needless to say that hardware is ****e. However I have seen the touch screen is fine if it is not plugged into the charger. As soon as you plugin the charger and try to use it, it goes mega crazy, it even will auto select things when you have your hand just close to screen but not touching it. I have noticed that when you unplug the charger, the screen comes back to sanity.

The issue has been reported and confirmed by other people too. I wonder if the chargers just emit too much noise that touch screen just gets confused with static input from a finger as compared to inductive field from charger. I would like to test my theory by getting a sane charger which can give 5vDC with 2000mpA, that is the stock charger spec anyway.

However I can't wait to get a custom ROM on it, the default rom is just crap, dwl99's thread is making some progress, hopefully guys will have a something out soon to test. If we can get CM7 on it, then majority of the firmware bugs will probably be resolved.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I can confirm the issue with the touchscreen.

Here's a simple way to see it even if you don't think yours has it. Go into a picture, and zoom in, or google maps, or a webpage and zoom in a bit (basically anywhere you can scroll in all directions).

Hold your finger on the screen as still as possible. Mine jiggles around very slightly, but as soon as you plug the power adapter in, it jiggles a lot more. Easily repeatable. That said, I never had any huge problems with the power adapter in, but it's clear it's having an effect on the screen. My guess is as you said, the adapter is cheap and shoddy, and the ripple is causing the thing to go nuts.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
That would also mean that a voltage and possibly an amperage stepper is not working correctly. Anyone want to try disconnecting the battery and see if you have the same issue. I have a resistive screen so no issues.

sent from EM73
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Just so you know, it was utterly trivial to root this using SuperOneClick

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803682

Plugged the thing in (at a normal screen, turned on, not fastboot or anything) and installed the ADB driver: "Android Composite ADB Interface" from the android-sdk (the device appears by default as Android Gingerbread or something). I did modify my ini file as per the translated link I came up with for the Joyplus M778 earlier, but I'm not sure it was necessary. Then simply ran SuperOneClick 1.95 and hit root.

Credit to that guy in the link I found before, maybe someone else already mentioned it? Worked for me anyway.

As a handy suggestion to prevent your screen spazzing out and selecting FWTool, use Launcher Pro and hide the app. Simple enough I know, but I don't want to accidentally hit it and break the damn touchscreen controller.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
Maybe good idea if dwl99 can post tried methods in the first post of thread¿
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I can't seem to modify any system files though, it's odd..

ES File Explorer won't even turn on Root Explorer, despite it popping up with the prompt, and granting it rights.

Any idea about what app might work ok to mess with files on the system?

However, I installed and ran AdFree, and that ran fine, and definitely worked, superuser prompt, and so on.. so did other apps that need root.

Even SetCPU works, and is definitely adjusting the clocks. Here are the supported speeds in this stock kernel:

136000,191000,300000,400000,500000,600000,700000,800000,900000,996000

(300 is actually 285, but doesn't seem to work if you specify 285. don't know why the forum keeps putting a space in the list??)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
im playing with system files via android commander -http://androidcommander.com/ (oh ive attached the win7 64bit moto drivers)

there are some interesting files in here such as system/lib libOMX.TCC.DVBTTuner.so and the gmaps looks like a modded version from hiapk.

I too have renamed the phone and telephony apks to no avail so im hvaing apoke around to see what else can be changed.

Can anyone get into the recovery on there kogan as all i seem to be able to get to is fastboot . From what ive read power and back should be recovery ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Try file expert , i have briefly played with it and can get system access
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Hmm i read through that forum hallokitty found and saw on page 10 (http://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=627972&page=10) a post by mima talking about the joyplus m778 version

"The device draws the battery abnormally, all the while imagining that the tablet and mobile phone applications are constantly trying to connect to the network, every couple minutes. lights up the screen, etc. Uninstalling and phone provider HBS sitacija drastically improved, but that's not it. But I found the solution on a Chinese website, the new firmware for telechips TCC8803 2.3.3 with which the unit is not 5 but at least 55 times better. Standby is now about 30-35 hours, the unit harassed all day, flashao everything, instaliravao, we tried and the battery lasts. Genuine revival in relation to origigi firmware. The unit cell is no longer the signal bar and played more mobile."

which seems to hint at battery improvement . he links to a megaupload site for the firmware though it seems to be for resistive screens but if its good we should be able to strip out the good bits shouldnt we ?

EDIT : the file date of the img file seems to be the 16th of june
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Sounds good to me, there's got to be a way to fix this!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
I'm downloading now for my tablet. I'll try it tomorrow.

sent from EM73
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Root Access

For those willing to try this, i think getting root via this method works. it didnt brick my device Woohoo (but dont try if your not willing to risk your tablet) because i really dont think super one click not those Moto drivers were ment to really run on the kogan agora tablet. i think HalloKitty did a similar method as well , which is why i tried =P

First Download the Moto drivers from here

Then once you have installed the drives for a Generic Android Device

you can test it by trying to get to ADB Shell

if it finds a device your good to go

Download Super One Click

Extract then click root

this works and installed SuperUser on the tablet

but i think theres a few weird issues lol. as always with kogan ...

On a last note i had to reboot my device after installing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
when you set up setCPU did you select custom settings or something? and just adjust the values in the text files?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
Is stock recovery missing on your devices?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
Actually it's the May 16 build, which is already available at http://androtab.info/telechips/firmwares. It does not fix the accelerometer problems at all. Also, while the signal strength for Cell is no longer in the status bar, if you go into Battery Usage you'll see Cell Standby is still at the top of the list. I've been running for less then 10 minutes and it's already 80%

I'd mark this as a BS update, while it is 2.3.3 it offers no benefits in my opinion.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I have my phone rooted using Superoneclick - will update the 1st post as this is a much easier way. I also have Titanium backup Pro (not the free version) & this shows all installed apps. You can also move apps to the System partition using the pro version so that might be a way to get more apps installed in the space available. I also used Root Explorer to get rid of stuff like Facebook and FWDN tool from the /System/app folder.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
So you were able to flash the generic EM73 firmware from the Androtab site and your tablet still works? And if so, I take it the nasty Kogan splash screen has gone away?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Did you just delete them with rootexplorer , if i wish to do the same would it be safer keeping a copy of the file somewhere else?

Also using setcpu and setting the min cpu speed to 300 when in use and 300-400 when screen off seems to not screenlag anymore

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
@Parastie

No mine doesnt have stock recovery , all i can seem to get to is fastboot.

And gutted on the update i found though i guess it did sound too good to be true :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
SetCPU didn't detect the values, so I had to make a setcpu.txt file with those values and stick it on my sdcard.

I found the values by just creating a text file with say values from say, 100000 to 1300000 (hey, I was optimistic, I think somewhere I read these chips were designed for 1.2GHz!) and dragging the bar along to see which values the cpu actually ran at
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Yes, just delete them. I also got rid of Email. Safer to keep a copy but I was feeling reckless :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Woo hoo, clockworkmod now working! Will update 1st post.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Right, I got the balls together to flash clockworkmod 4.

This is a little cross-posting, but what the hell, take this file:

http://androtab.info/files/tcc8803/cm7/20110619/EM73-8K/EM73-8K-recovery-signed.zip

And extract recovery.img from it.

This is personally how I did it - install Android Commander (found this very useful for messing with files too, so it's not a waste of time to install) http://androidcommander.com/

Connect the tablet, adb drivers installed etc, until Android Commander sees the tablet (assuming you already rooted it of course).

Click the Phone menu, Flash, Image, recovery.

Select recovery.img and let it go nuts.

This works, and it will reboot into cwm.

Now, when you hold down back and power it on, it will boot into cwm.

Sure, I'm sure you could push it using adb commands, but this way at least you basically can't get anything wrong.

For reference:

menu - down in the options

back - returns to first menu

home - selects option
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I did it too! But by a different method. Have updated the 1st post. I feel a bit more secure having clockworkmod, now we can try riskier things!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Yeah, I never tried to get into the stock recovery for some reason. Basically, I already had Android Commander on here because I wanted to mess with system files easier than poking around on the screen, noticed it had a flash option.

Your way is simpler of course, but at least you have an extra confirmation that clockworkmod DOES work fine.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
I should specify, I have a generic Em73 with resistive screen.

sent from EM73
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Just in case anybody missed it, I can confirm this does allow Skype to log in:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15072413&postcount=250

/system/build.prop
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] banchang:
Does the kogan have a resistive or capacitive touchscreen? I have read the thread & there seems to be different versions ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Couldent get skype to sign in still. Atleast not crashing now

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Huh, I got Skype to sign in OK, and made a voice call...

There are different EM73 tablets, but this Kogan Agora definitely has a capacitive touchscreen.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
from /system/app

Remove (or rename) the following:

Phone.apk

TelephonyProvider.apk

As soon as you remove Phone.apk, it will force close repeatedly. Ignore this, just reboot the thing. It doesn't come up again. Keep a copy just in case, but I've done this and so far, Mobile Standby isn't appearing in the drain list at all.

Infact, the list is now making perfect sense. Display, Wifi and Phone Idle. (I've only been testing it for 10 minutes so far, but I believe it has worked).

You can confirm this hollows out the damn phone support because when you attempt to view the mobile networks option in Settings, it crashes Settings. :D

Another thing, Accounts & Sync is missing from settings, but I used AnyCut to create a shortcut to Accounts & Sync (weirdly 3 of them appear in the list, I chose the first).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Wagster:
Hi guys,

I'm just wondering what you can do with the Kogan once it has been rooted and installed clockworkmod. What custom ROMS can you install? I guess none have been made specifically for the Kogan yet so the 3G turn on bug won't have been fixed.

Can you put CM7 or any other ROMS on the Kogan?

Many thanks to everyone who's been playing around with this thing trying to get the most out of it.:)

Cheers

Wagster
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Screwing with the stock ROM right now is our best choice, since it has hardware accelerated video, you can play 720p mkv just fine. CM7 might work soon, for CM7 info, check here, but even then, a lot of things won't work yet.

Just above your post is a post I made explaining what to do to fix the 3G/turn on bug. At least, I'm pretty sure it's worked, but I'm just waiting to see if the screen turns on again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
@Wagster

You could try CM7 from http://androtab.info/telechips/firmwares, look for Emdoor EM73 capacitive GB ROM 8K near the bottom. I cannot guarantee it will work and you may brick your tablet. Only try this if you have a Nandroid backup. I guess nobody will want to be the first to try this! But let us know if you do :-)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Interesting I tried this APk removal yesterday but mobile standby was still present and top of my list though come to think of it I didn't wipe my battery stats . As soon as I get a spare 5 mins ill install cwm and test
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I've had it on for a while now and I haven't noticed it turn on randomly, and the battery stats only has: Wifi, Display, Phone Idle.

I'm pretty sure it worked. There's a small chance it was something else I did while playing around. Be nice if everyone else could test it too, then we basically have a usable machine, although it'd be nice to do something about that lousy accelerometer.

So far, we have: Root, ClockwordMod Recovery, SetCPU works ok (profiles to save battery), Skype fix, 3G/Phone randomly turning on fix, and a way to get to Accounts & Sync (maybe we could replace Settings.apk with a better one??)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
I did most of that but the cwm and skype still wont let me login... annoying lol. Not sure how to clear baterry stats here..

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
That sucks that Skype doesn't work... is there any error?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
phone + telephony fix added to 1st post
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
ok 3 reboots later no mobile standby shown on mine ... weird though my device is a tad odd as i really dont seem to have a stock recovery and for teh life of me no matter what verion of get root i use i cant see more than five apps in TB

I have however flashed CWM recovery using fastboot from the command line (no stock recovery so update.zips where not working).

Time to factory reset and start from scratch i think