yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt General] Noles419:
I reinstalled and all looks to work very well now!

The market still says i'm incompatible with applications I have purchased. I hope that is fixed with the maintenance the market has posted on the site...
[Thunderbolt General] system6:
OK. So last night Google tech support sent me something weird which seemed like an act of desperation.

I had been told by many to log into and out of google talk several times and try it again. I had already done this and nothing happened.

Google told me to log into and out of google talk 10 times in a row or more. Sitting there in boredom and I gave it a shot. IT FIXED EVERYTHING!

My AE is here and it's going straight back. So yeah...log into and out of Google talk like you have OCD and BOOM! It's fixed!
[Thunderbolt General] boristhebladexx:
on MR2 i have trouble finding certain apps. for instance i couldn't find 'paypal' i had to find similar apps, open that market entry, and go to 'related applications' and paypal would be there
[Thunderbolt General] system6:
I haven't experienced that. I am how ever dealing with FIFA and The Sims. I bought them on my EVO.... no issue. 2 new phones later, they are not showing up as "purchased".

EA and Gameloft have been "working on this" for months. Frustrating.

I'm still on stock Froyo, are you on a custom build or the GB leak?
[Thunderbolt General] system6:
My phone just randomly rebooted and I was all.... FFFFFFFfffffffuuuuuuuu........
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
OK mine has arrived lets see what we can do :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Lucky you - they're really dragging their heels with mine. Can you upload the kernel & we can see about getting clockworkmod for it?

How do you rate it as a tablet? Is the keyboard OK? - some people have said it's a bit carp.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] greatcapp:
I got mine today. It's going back as soon as I can get Kogan to respond.

Turns itself on & off at random, poor quality screen, sound, responsiveness.

Touchscreen activates itself without being touched.

What was I thinking? I guess you get what you pay for.

Now if only I could get them to reply to an email.......
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Ok i have to agree you get what you pay for so i had low exectations. Its no flyer,tab,transformer but then it was a 1/4 of the cost. Yes the screen has issues (partly i think due to the screen protecter and battery life is poor though ive had this on for about 2 hrs now and its about 2/3rds down.

All in all im happy though going to live with it for a bit and i reserve the right to change my mind.

Wil right more when i have aproper keyboard
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
yeh i get the same problem with the screen comming on and off randomly.. i wish i could stop that =P (would save the 3 hour battery life i have to 4 hours!)

you get what you pay for =P but i thought the screen was quite good considering.

did you try the recovery yet?

how nice would it be to port oxygen to the kogan haha
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
The screen keeps coming on as the OS is looking for a 3G signal all the time. If you switch it to airplane mode it should stop happening. Or use http://www.appbrain.com/app/airplane-mode-wi-fi-tool/net.geekherd.airplanemode . Or you could even try adjusting the settings to use 2G only.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] greatcapp:
I can't adjust to 2g only on mine - it's greyed out.

Yes, I've put it back to factory setting a few times, but it's no better.

The switching on/off isn't the main problem (though it has used 30% of the batter life in 8 hours during the night).

The main issue is the touchscreen simply activating itself. If i go into a menu of any kind, it sometimes selects something for me. It happens too often to just ignore it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Sounds like a faulty screen :-( - let us know how you get on returning it! If mine turns out to be rubbish when it arrives my Plan B is this one http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=496
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
well im having the random on issues (thanks for the airplane mode idea ill give it a tray) but the screen activations are not a problem.

@dwl99 that mp4nation link is the same as the kogan (a rebranded em73) so its likely to have the same niggles i think
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
A lot of these tablets are very similar (Herotab C8, Dropad A8) but there seem to be some important differences in the components used. I've been lurking in some Heropad C8 forums and nobody seems to have reported touchscreen problems.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
This one look exactl;y the same , button layout etc etc however i know what you saying as even within the same model different components can be swapped in as costs change between runs :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
BTW

Kernel

2.6.35.7

Build

EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516

WILL UPLOAD WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO DUMP IT
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
An app that sticks it in Airplane Mode when you put it into sleep mode is a good work around for now, try "Auto Airplane Mode" (I can't link because I haven't posted enough, it seems...

Hasn't randomly turned on since I installed this. Ahh, forget that, it seems to be doing it again, it just took a lot longer...

In general, this thing is a bit cheap and nasty, but I guess that's what I expected. The button placement is seriously weird, and the touchscreen and accelerometer are just inaccurate and jittery (try playing a game that uses the accelerometer! good luck!)

I feel like it could benefit a lot from a nice ROM though, to fix a few issues (where the hell is the accounts & sync menu?)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Been trying to find how to set these before

i found it once earlier on but i cant find it again!!!

it was not where i expected and i think i had to do a round about method to find it.

i have a feeling it had something to do when i was trying to sync email contact with a email app but i forgot which one lol..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
just FYI on the kogans you can activate aeroplane mode in settings then using the power controls widget on your home screen turn on wifi

it will keep the aeroplane mode on but wifi on as well atleast it worked on mine you dont need an app for it.

i actually wonder if the screen wake has something to do with background sync should try turn it off for a night and see.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Okay, so after being plugged in and fully charged, I unplugged it and left to drain overnight to see what would happen.

I had "Auto Airplane Mode" on, but as you'll understand, it helped, but not enough.

Even in Airplane Mode, the tablet would wake itself up, then "Auto Airplane Mode" would see the screen is on, and turn the wifi back on, then back off when the screen faded.

But, I'm thinking this might be because it has Sync enabled. I'm going to try it again with sync disabled.

The battery graph was a joke - it started smoothly going down at a reasonable pace, then -no lie- it spiked down.. then UP, then down, then up, throughout the night. It was at about 75% when I turned it back on after say, 8 hours. Then it dropped to 72%, then I plugged it in, and it immediately reported 98%. The biggest drain by a long way is "Mobile Standby".

However, for the most part, bar the bad accelerometer, terrible button placement, and slightly sharp edges, the hardware itself is not terrible for the money - 512MB RAM and 1GHz processor; I don't mind 800x480 at 7", it looks passable, although it's bad in sunlight. (Of course the viewing angles are bad, but for the cost, that's expected/OK).

But damn the software needs tweaking because it just has problems.

vv

Model number: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2

Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7

Build number: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Hi all since installing auto airplane I don't think im seeing wakes issues. I left the kogan overnight at about 50% battery and this morning it was at 35%. Ill test again tonight just to be sure as you seem to have the same build and kernel .

EDIT:

Ok i do still have it :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Though I have to agree the roms a joke accourding to quick system info 77% of my power useage has been down to mobile standby HUH.

Edit one thought is the 3g component in there for the 3g USB comparability and if so that was a new feature so could there be a rom that exists without it. I have added a topic in this forum asking if its possible to strip the 3g component out.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Huh, no, it still seems to turn the screen on now and then even with sync off and in airplane mode. This thing needs a custom ROM as soon as possible. I imagine after a while people will start to sell them cheap because of problems that could mostly be fixed with better software, so I think it could be a pretty popular tablet for people willing to customise it..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Try removing the sd card from your tablet, copy all files to a temporary folder on your pc, format the card as fat32, copy all the files back to your sd card, delete the rescue backup folder you created in /clockworkmod/backup. Then download the rescue backup file again (sorry, I cannot give you the md5 hash just now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 as I'm on another pc), unzip the folder then place the entire folder in the /clockworkmod/backup folder. Stick the card back in your tablet, boot to cwm then try again.

The phone+telephony thing you copy to the root of your sd card should be left as a zipped file. Remember that if you copy it over via the tablet the sd card is misleadingly called tflash by the tablet, not sdcard.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Quite a few games stutter when I try to play them which is ridiculous given that this tablet has a 1GHz processor. I had a look at the settings in setcpu but they stumped me. I cannot see an "autodetect" setting. Can some kind person take me through the optimum settings for setcpu on a real simple screen-by-screen basis or make a text file with the settings?

I've just given up on trying to play any games that involve the accelerometer, it seems to have a mind of its own. And I ended up turning off screen rotation as the randomness of it was doing my head in :mad:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
yes already flash recovery to default using your suggestions. I think it is still rooted, but I guess I can unroot it using same method.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ap0cle:
Just signed up to say a massive thanks to people on this thread for all the tips setting up my agora tablet, without this thread I honestly think that I would have sent it back, but all the tweaks posted here have made my tab alot easier to get on with.

Looking forwards to seeing a custom rom in the future.

Once again many thanks everyone!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
I did the telephony hack but my screen still wakes up alot...not sure why..i renamed the files but strangely cant find the files i renamed now.

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Strange... can you check system/app & just make sure that phone.apk and telephony.provider.apk are no longer there? Does activating airplane mode make any difference? Could it be your wifi waking up & looking for a signal? Do you have any task killers running, they can sometimes cause problems.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thephm:
I'm confused.

I'm in the process of returning mine for random phantom touches and a screen that distorts when you touch the back of the device.

Support told me to use the recalibrate feature of fwtool - which I'd already done multiple times with no detriment or beneficial effects.

So what exactly is it that you can do with fwtool that results in the killing of the touch screen ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
It was thought that fwtool would flash the tablet's firmware, instead it only flashes the ts controller. Sets had flashed .img roms only to destroy the ts controller.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mkdir23:
hey dwl99,

I tried what you said however it still says MD5 mismatch. Thanks for all the help.

I also notice in you're post after you are noticing how slow it is at gaming. I have two Psx emulators that both run on my phone but one of them simply doesn't run on the Kogan (black screen then android menu pops back up) and the other does play but is extremely slow. It just has to be the firmware as the hardware should well be able to handle it right ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Thats funny i play games on the tablet only. Yoo ninja works well as well as angry birds

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
MD5 mismatch means the data has got corrupted. I'll upload it to a dropbox folder PM you a link tomorrow.

I agree with your comment about the firmware, probably the kernel?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mkdir23:
Thanks for the help.

Yes I think it is the kernel, I just don't understand why they made such a mess of it all. Are there no potentially compatible ROMs out there ? I would nearly be tempted to try one now.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
had a check still cant find the files i renamed and they not showing up in the systems/app section mmm..

maybee i hacked up something wrong lol? i was using titanium backup to freeze and unfreeze certain apps to see how it would behave =P. but i restored them and its still acting strange haha..

i think if anyone knew anything about kernal hacking it would be a good start to fix the kernel and possibly the way the CPU clock and governer works and maybee some other stuff.. but i know nothing about kernel hacking.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
have we have anyone manage to install the Cyanogen rom from the TCC8803 thread? or will it definately brick our devices?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I've pm'd you a dropbox link. One final thought - can you try unzipping it with 7zip rather than Winzip or any other program? Sometimes that can make a difference.

Remember to do a factory reset & wipe the Data partition & Dalvik cache with CWM prior to doing this. Also do a full Nandroid backup before you wipe anything or do the restore.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I don't see how the Cyanogen ROM could brick our devices. As long as you do not flash lk.rom and do a full Nandroid backup first it should be fine. There are still too many things broken in the CM ROM to make it suitable for day-to-day use for me. Perhaps fun_ could confirm this?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
mm still scared to try it..

but annoyingly HalloKitty fix for the telephony thing didnt do anything for me.. atleast i still wakes up the screen alot maybee i missed something?..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Bleh i forgot to ask to see if anyone has tried the new Skype 2 on the kogan yet by downloading the apk and installing it?

does it work? and does video work now?

might give it a try tonight.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
I think we should remember that there is a gpu as well as a cpu with these chips and, sadly, the tcc8803 has a rather old Mali 200 gpu. That will cause your game issues.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I noticed a 1.2GHz based TCC8803 tablet on fleabay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390314991911&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT - I wasn't aware the TCC8803 was also available with a 1.2GHz speed. I wonder if that would fare any better with games etc?

Although I'm now getting used to the Kogan's foibles and will probably just put up with them. If I can play some games, browse the web, play movies for the kids & output to an HDMI TV then for 96 quid it's not too bad :) I'll probably upgrade to something a bit zippier in a few months.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
The tablet I have was marketed as that. You should know that its 1ghz with a 200mhz dsp. We all have the same chip and so far, I have not found a way to overclock it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
If im reading the overclock threads correctly we need kernel support to do so so untill will see the source its gonna be a no go ... or am im mistaken ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] herrer123:
wifi tethering

Hi

Has anybody tried tethering there agora tablet to a htc hd2 via the wifi router option on there phone?

Havent had a problem getting my tablet on the iphone and galaxy s versions

of the wifi router but cannot get on the hd2 one, the tablet sees it and trys to connect but no luck, any ideas?

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Overclocking probably need some kernel hacks

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
i had a similar issue with my HTC desire and had to use the 2.08 experimental version from here https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
You didn't miss anything. It sometimes happens, but when you check the battery history, at least there's no Mobile Standby taking up the majority of the time anymore.

So, although this helped with that problem, there is still some other problem remaining to solve..

Skype 2 though, Video calls?! That sounds perfect for this, I will definitely try later...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Video does not work yet. But it is more stable than the earlier versions runs better to.

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Hi dw these are the set cpu spe3ds you got to create a setcpu.txt in thee root of the sd card and setcpu should find these values. Its just all in one line seperated by comma

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jamesgid:
Lifehacker had a link to a custom build of skype which i tried and it worked!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Parastie:
Do you have a link? I installed one linked on XDA homepage and while it installed works, video from the tablet would not work even though I could see the other person really well.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] logger:
Do have any feeling for what sort of battery gain the telephony fix achieves. Are we talking 10% or is it more of a gain than that.

I have just bought a Kogan Tab & would like to maximise its battery life. As this will be my first experience of rooting I do not want to stick my neck out unless the gains are worth while. Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I have no idea, but there's no disadvantage, unless you plan on using a 3G dongle..

Bear in mind the change is totally reversible too..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
@ fun_

what do you think are the chances of that m801 rom from the [Q] Suli MY-7 / LY-F521 / GT-PAD / DIEL FLICK / SENSE V7 thread working on the kogan
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] quigo:
I've tried to access the stock recovery by this method and when the tablet is turned on via the internal settings. Each time I get the triangle and can't access the stock recovery. Is there something I'm not doing? this is driving me mad!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Then you have to push it using adb.. It was mentioned a few times in the thread, I posted a way to do it using Android Commander which was pretty easy
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
hold BACK until recovery menu text is displayed after ! screen.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
I think technically possible (except lk.rom) but at least kernel need to be replaced.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] logger:
Sweet thanks. Will have a crack. Just reviewed the instructions and not having rooted an android before I am confused by the first step.

"Create Full Nandroid (clockworkmod) backup"

Do I have to install a tool to do the nandorid backup or is the Nandroid tool already on the kogan tab if I boot it to recovery mode?

If I have to install nandroid first which version and where do I get it?

So sorry for the noob Questions.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Help needed!

It appears that theversion of Clockworkmod on the 1st post doesn't like the way I made the Phone+telephony.zip file. If anyone can use Edify scripting to create a working Phone+telephony.zip from the existing file can they please upload it?

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Look at the first post, you will see instructions for installing clockworkmod. Once you've done that boot into clockworkmod recovery & navigate down to Backup then follow the instructions.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Ahhh ok I assumed as they where all built on the same telechips hardware it would be more as case of just removing the lk.Tom.

Seems I need to do a little more reading round the subject :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mkdir23:
Yeah the sooner this firmware goes the better.

Sorry i didn't get back to you sooner but i've been very busy with work. I got your PM and it seems to have worked, it booted and i had astro and spare parts + with all the other stuff gone but i was a bit worried as it gave a few warning messages on the recovery screen.

Thanks again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Can someone tell me what the version # of their kernel is? I think I may have found a new one!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Is this what you need
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Btw can anyone point me to a howto on decompressing a system.Img . I have tried a number of unyaffs options but they all seem to fail.

I'm trying to see if the image on one of the other em73 based threads (dated June 2011) has anything usefully in it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Cheers. I have a EM73_SIS_GC2M 20110530 build working on my Kogan now. The kernel seems to be the same though :-(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
there is timestamp for kernel too. see /proc/version.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Ok the properties of the /proc/version file says #96 mon may 16 11:01:24 hkt 2011
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Mine is #160 Mon May 30 20:16:07 HKT 2011. Strange that the version # in "About" was the same :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
kernel version and build timestamp are different thing.

EDIT:

btw timestamp in build.prop/kernel doesn't promise anything... something may be changed or may not be changed on newer build.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
"Tips & Tricks" section added to first post. Please let me know if you can think of any additions to it.