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[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K J Rad:
You're welcome. Goodintentions is correct in bringing up the ROM manager issue though. Flashing ROMs or CWM with ROM manager can result in APX looping that requires more than a simple nvflash to correct. I've had several people send me their tablets for recovery after having used ROM manager.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mantara:
+1. Rom manager is no touchey! There are at least a few new posts a week from people borkifying there tabs from using that app. Not saying it happens every time just that it can happen. Its not worth loosing all your data because you wanted to save 5 seconds.

Glad you got it worked out. Try nvflash from from your vm next time :-)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sinful Animosity:
Can I flash Ginger Blur using 2nd init?

I can't figure out how to acccess it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjjensen23:
Did you read the guide on how to flash gingerblur?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmer411:
2nd init is for roms which we don't have.

Gingerblur is a skin, all the instructions are in the gingerblur thread
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sinful Animosity:
Sorry, I should have been more specific. In the 2nd init thread, edgan posted this:

Warning! This conflicts with Tenfar's ClockWorkMod(aka CWM) Recovery

If the phone is wall charging, you shut down the phone, and start it, it will boot CWM

To avoid this, open System Recovery and hit Charge Mode.

It may also conflict with other recovery tools, or other things that tweak the normal boot process.

I assumed this meant I couldn't use CWM anymore.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjjensen23:
Its not really ready as there are no roms. For the end user, dont even bother with it yet
[Atrix 4G General] defnow:
Hey guys/gals..thought I'd share this. At&ts website, App and phone service is down for maintenance and not taking any payments...So, if you have a payment coming ..call csr and "complain" that your payment isn't going through. CSR told me At&t is aware and very sorry..she tossed me a $25 credit. Wasn't expecting that ..but pretty cool. I told my sister to try and she got it too..AND also told a friend of mine as well and he also got the $25 credit. All this happened within the last 30 mins.

Thought I'd share that for anyone who wanted to try it. Hey..its $25 bucks. :D
[Atrix 4G General] V@no:
Crap, I pay at the beginning of the month..should I try anyway? :D
[Atrix 4G General] Room7:
mentioned it....didnt get anything out of them
[Atrix 4G General] REDFOCZ:
I work for at&t customer care web site has been up and down for the past week with the new re designx no official credits are being given but It's not out of place to receive one if a fuss is made. I'll be honest I have given them to shut people up since it just gives me a head ache LOL
[Android Software Development] lockzackary:
Im worried about copyright infringements, google seems to sue anyone they seem "sue-able"

Im planning to use the android mascot in a game im about to launch. I am still waiting for my designer to hand over the spritesheets i asked him to make. so for now, at testing phase, im planning to release a beta version using the android mascot as the character.

but the terms and conditions of the android sdk doesnt explicitly say anything about this other than:

So, my question is, am i about to do something illegal?
[Android Software Development] killersnowman:
i found this http://www.enterprisemobiletoday.co...scot-Collectibles-Coming-to-Desk-Near-You.htm but it says that they worked with some googlers... so maybe an email to google is due. whats the worst that could happen? you get sued, get lots of publicity, take down the offending material and sell a bunch of copies of your game. i say go for it. :D
[Android Software Development] iynfynity:
I've seen Android live wallpaper and don't think they got sued. But yeah, E-mail them.
[Android Software Development] lockzackary:
great, i never thought of emailing them first haha

so i guess that's it, i wonder if andy rubin would answer me himself or.. haha

wishful thinking

anyway thanks a lot for your suggestions
[Android Software Development] randomchars:
Here you go.

+ you can find a vector robot here
[Android Software Development] killersnowman:
goog find! that whole page is full of gold.
[Android Software Development] lockzackary:
whoa thank you very much sir randomchars

so i guess i'd be fine so long as i put this

Portions of this page are modifications based on work created and shared by Google and used according to terms described in the Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution License.

thank you again :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kero4:
Guys,

Sometime this week gonna revert back to eclair via odin for a few reasons, boy I wish I knew this place existed before using samsung kies mini to update to 2.2.

I want to get back to 2.1 get it the way I want it, nandroid that puppy then move on to a new rom. I assume this will be my emergency fall back should things go wrong when the experimenting starts.

I originally went to 2.2, rooted, via titanium backup removed lots of bloatware, never really thinking to back things up in case or anything. Then found out today via MUCH reading (after my clockworkmod recovery install failed due to signature issue) and finally made my first post to find out that the 3e recovery would not allow me get the recovery console changed, etc etc. I hope that sounded right.

It will be a good learning experience so heck, why not.

My real question is this, since I am new to the rom scene, I would like some suggestions on first time rom users.

I am not a heavy user at all, I don't play games, I don't watch tv on the phone, I don't facebook or social network or anything along those lines. I don't use the GPS, etc etc. I don't use email on the phone, rather I go to my web mail instead.

All I do thus far is make calls, txt and go on the net to my usual places. For every app I had interest in on the market, I can just go to a website, basically checking weather and things like that.

Any suggestions on a good solid proven rom that does what I need but is bug free as possible. I don't think I am ready for cutting edge stuff yet.

I keep my phones simple, black background, no fancy animations of any kind. I like minimal and that also helps with battery life etc etc.

Please point me in the right direction. I checked the development section and there are so many to choose from, I am not sure really what I am reading about half the time. All this stuff with improved modems, kernels and such.

Just want to start the learning process and get my feet wet with a nice solid rom for me to explore and maybe start to take advantage of what the phone has to offer.

Thanks for listening to my verbal diarrhea btw :)

ps - most interesting is that I am a die hard linux user other than at work, all home pc's and laptops have it. I am pretty well versed in dealing with linux so I hope this will be easy to pick up over time.

edit I keeping reading that bionix 1.3.1 is pretty darn good and stable, what ya think? I see on their website there is touchwiz and gingerbread editions, not sure what the difference is?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movieaddict:
bionix is a good start for a noob!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
First of all, welcome. My laptop is running Debian and ODIN friggin hates it! I always have to go to my PC running XP to get ODIN to werk when I goof something up. Just a tip. As for a stable ROM Bionix is a great choice for a first flash. I personally have always been a big fan of MALICE. There are tons of options as you can see and everyone has their own opinion. Good luck!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kero4:
Thanks guys, after doing more reading last night, I think bionix will be my first go. Gonna odin back to 2.1 today at work, do the usual steps, nandriod it, then jump into bionix.

Despite being nervous, I hope it goes fine :)

kawika: yep, will doing everything at work on my xp machine :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigitalMonk:
I've had good luck with Project V as well.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jneal9:
Check out ZenDroid too. Very slim and snappy. And ECOTOX's DragonMOD kernels are fantastic for battery life and performance too.

Sent from my SGH-T959
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyle51:
i went with simply galaxy first and pretty much been with it since, iv tried loads of roms for a few days here and there but none of them seem to have the same feel that simply galaxy did as soon as i tried it :)

and touchwiz is like stock is and gingerbread is like ..... with the 3d app drawer, i prefer touchwiz but thats just me :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djluis48:
I would recommend Project V, its pretty fast and stable. And for the kernel, Super Dragonmodz if you want stability and performance, but OK battery life, and Bali's 1.8.6UV if you want battery life, but OK performance.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kero4:
With regards to galaxy and project V, how is the stability, like I mention, I am a very light user and don't do much other than call, txt and use the web, maybe take a pic here and there or hd video but not often? I have been reading through different rom threads and all seem to have small issues, nothing serious but would like to install something that I don't have to uninstall right away.

I am back to 2.1, already rooted, bloatware removed and backup created and done via clockworkrecovery console.

So, I am just about ready to start playing but don't want to go to crazy trying different roms every few days.

Thanks for your comments BTW :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DigitalMonk:
The stability I've had on Project V is near perfect. No FCs, etc. I'd have to say of the ROMs I've used recently (including CM7 which is fun to play with and is pretty stable but just not my cup of tea right now) Project V has been the one that I like the best.

CM7 is fun being AOSP but having played with it, there are things that Samsung did that I actually prefer so Project V fits my needs well.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kero4:
I installed bionix touchwiz just to get my feet wet since I really couldn't make up my mind. It's nice, fast, only problem is can't update superuser but not really a big deal.

I am sure shortly I'll move to one of the others you guys recommended.

Process was pretty straight forward so now all my nervousness is gone in terms new rom installs and such.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyle51:
:)

i was like that at first :p

was thinkin about it like a week then finally did it lol
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
Welcome to our world, prepare to become a flash addict. It really is simple and remember ODIN is your friend. Although its alot like your drunken friend that doesn't like to listen all the time and you gotta slap him around to get it to werk right sometimes and he's a mean drunk too not a funny sloppy drunk.

As to Project V - I've only been running it for a day now and everything runs fine for me no bugs as of yet. Only issue for me is I HATE THE PINK TMOBILE CRAP! boot and shutdown. It was the reason I first rooted and started playing with my phone, I had to get that off it. Now I've been so spoiled with bootanimation.zip's that I can't remember how to get rid of it, LOL. Oh well, as is life I just miss my XDA bootanimation:(. Glad you got it figured out!:D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kero4:
Yep, it's just like modding my subaru, once it starts the mod bug never ends, hahahaha.

So played with bionix a bit and realized it really does look like froyo but with some nice added touches and runs nicely.

So, of course, as you said, I can see lots of flashing in the future eventhough, half the roms, I don't really understand all the tech stuff they put in the OP.

One more question, of course, using any future rom, is it always best to odin back to 2.1 before going with a new rom?

I see in other rom threads that ppl just flash over the current rom to a new one, sometimes with success, sometimes not. Some ppl clear all the caches as well? what's your guys take on this or is it best to use the directions that are normally clearly posted in the makers OP?

So again, can't thank you guys enough, I am sure I will chime in here and there with more questions, hopefully not ones due to mistakes LOL!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyle51:
doesnt hurt to flash over the top, i havent had any problems

i started by going back to 2.1 but then odin had a spaz and froze on me for like 10 min so i unplugged and was hard bricked, had to take it to get fixed so now i dont odin unless i have to :)

if its going to freeze you want it to be at the beginning, can get it back from there :) it was doing the last thing for me when i hard bricked

i just..

factory reset/wipe data

clear cache

flash

advanced menu

wipe dalvik

fix permissions

go back

reboot, leave for 10 min

reboot again

some roms just say wipe then flash and reboot but i still go through all that just to make sure it goes ok, only takes like 20 sec more :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
I couldn't agree more with everything in this post. ODIN is rarely called upon for me unless I borked something up and need saving or if I flash 2.3 or higher. The only thing I do different is I always flash a ROM with my battery at 100% and in the advanced menu I also do the clear battery option. Also after initial reboot I let it sit 15min then turn off completely without doing any setup and then let it sit again for another 10min. Every time I flash a new ROM I don't use the phone for at least 30min just letting it sit and reconfigure. Good luck!:)

*TIP* If you find issues with data or reception try flashing different modems. These are easypeasy just flash in CwRecovery no need for any clearing of stats or any real precautions just flash the duck outta them! Kernels are the same way.

*Suggestion* Step up your car game bro! If you like the all-wheel scene you should really get into Audi quattro! (Shameless plug, I werk for Audi)

*My friends suck* At least ur attempting to read the OP's man. I've rooted a few of my friends phones and none of them will read the OP's. They all call me asking about crap for their phones like my opinion and I'm like "READ THE OP! I have no clue about ROMs/bugs for your phone, nor do I want to" they all say "frack that, I'm just gonna flash it" OMG!:mad: so kudos to you sir!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kero4:
Thanks for the added info guys :)

kawika: there is no way I could ever afford an audi despite me loving some of the current models that are out, I would be more than happy to get as a gift anything with an RS in front of the number LOL.

Subaru's have a distinct sound and feel that can't be found in most other cars. The boxer flat fours are very cool engines, and the boxer "BURBLE" as we call it has such a distinct sound, it's hard not to know when one is passing you buy. Yeah sure, there are some heavily riced ones out there, but most of tastefully mod them.

I'm more old school about things, I try to read and learn before asking the questions.

I read so much the first day or so being on the board that I got a headache between all the roms and info on rooting, flashing, etc etc. The amount of info is just unreal, which is awesome!!!!

Before I found xda, I can't remember how I found it, I was using google to find info and I didn't really trust all the info out there. So XDA is my android home and you can't beat the ppl here :)

So now that we got all the warm and fuzzy stuff out of the way, LOL, I think this weekend I'll jump into Project V and give that a whirl :)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] catman9712:
well i just got done talking to the sprint reps and one guy hinted to me that gingerbread was supposed to be out by the end of this month so has anyone heared of an exact date?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esteway.619:
Between june 16-26 if u search you'll see a bunch of threads with this answer :)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
But absolutely no proof. All just rumors. When Froyo was coming to the Epic even the magazines had dates (which were wrong) listed. Google it. The only thing that comes up is Samsung to release to Europe and then to US carriers, oh and all the rumors here. Hasn't released in Europe yet. If you ever think it has released, just go to Sprint.com and check update firmware for your device. The first day of OTA it appears on the site.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shoulon:
Kenny is correct though. However it doesn't matter what the date is. As far as were concerned its most likely end of this month.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
I really hope it does come at the end of the month but there is absolutely no mention of it in any Android publication other than Samsung's tweet that we will get it. The rags. Always have better sources than we do.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhoreDog:
Have new to me Sprint HTC Evo rooted and I cannot activate on Sprint because I cannot get correct MSL. Sprint Tech gave me number it thought was correct but no luck. I downloaded a msl reader, EScode from PCWorld and it gave the same number Sprint had for the msl.

So, can anyone give me some help on how to obtain the msl?

Thanks for the help.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
download msl reader from the market, and it'll give you the 6 digit code. You can remove the battery from the phone, and read off the meid number, and make sure the information matches the actual phone you have.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhoreDog:
I'm not sure I understand. I have downloaded a msl reader and it did not work. Are you advising I download an another/different msl reader?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Naw, its the same one. The app asks for super user permissions, then gives you a 6 digit code? Also, your bootloader shows s-off?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RobertVanHagar:
You may want to do a Factory Reset from Menu > Settings > SD & phone storage > Factory data reset.

After the phone reboots, it may go through the hands free activation. If it does, you're set. If not, by this time you should be able to enter the MSL. I would recommend doing a Data Profile restore by opening up the virtual keypad, typing ##DATA#, entering your MSL, going to Edit Mode and then selecting Data Profile. You'll be taken to the Data Profile page. Once you're there, press the Menu button on the phone and tap on the Restore option. Phone will reboot.

I did this even after rooting with Unrevoked3 and encountering the same issue and it worked.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buddah77:
I attempted to flash my gtab with Android OS 3.0. I am not a noob to flashing a new FW so I am not sure what happened. But now my gtab sits at the viewsonic screen and that's it. I try to boot into CW but when I press the Vol+ key I get the message at the top:

"Detect a recovery key pressed"

"Booting recovery kernel image"

And that is it. So I can't boot into CWM to mount my storage. Can ANYBODY please help me?!?!?! I'm freakin out that I have ruined my gtab.

Thanks

-Buddah
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
You tried to jump a cliff and fell down the great chasm. What you need to do is visit my website (just put it up today) and follow the procedure to nvflash. It's written for beginners like yourself so I'm sure you won't have any problem with it.

http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/nvflash.htm

What happened was you tried tried to use the wrong CWM. Just read my website and you'll see what I mean.

Added by edit.

Also, visit my ROM page for the appropriate way to flash a ROM.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roebeet:
Assuming you used Bottle of Smoke, were you on a 1.1 ROM (ie. 3588 stock, VEGAn-TAB or CM7) and then flashed with cwm? If so, that's your root cause (1.1 ROM jumping to a 1.2 ROM with cwm = soft brick).

As mentioned, you need nvflash to fix it. It's most likely a soft-brick, not a hard brick. :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEvans:
dun dun dun....another one bites the dust, da da dun dun dun
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buddah77:
Many many thanks! I NVflashed my gtab and I am back up and running. :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
There's been a wave of people soft-bricking their gtab because they were not aware of the 1.1 - 1.2 issue. Wonder if that has anything to do with the recent woot and tigerdirect sales...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
Just curious. Did you use my nvflash instructions or the ones in this forum? I just want to get a feel of if my site is helpful to beginners at all. I've simplified the instructions as much as I could without giving up the technical stuff.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roebeet:
I, for one, want to again thank the power users here for their excellent user support. YOU have the hardest job of all and I appreciate anyone who helps do post-support for my own ROMs. It is very much appreciated.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] catpaws:
*raises her hand slowly*

I got a gtab from woot. I soft-bricked it because it came with the 1.2 bootloader and I installed CWM on it (wanted to install CM7) Luckily the instructions on this forum got me back up and running with nvflash.

P.S. Wish I would've know about your website good intentions. The post I followed was very good, but I always like to see more than one set of instructions before doing something I'm not comfortable with. Acutally I wish I would've seen that stuff before I soft-bricked my gtab :-(
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HeadRusch1:
I will say this, once you know how to use NVFlash you can do a lot more experimenting...the worst case is you lose a configuration and have to re-load apps.

I think its sad to know so many GTabs are out in the wild running stock, with people going "These Android tabs are Crap!".... :(
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buddah77:
@goodintentions:

I followed your instructions to the letter and that is what did it for me. It was very accurately detailed and left no room for interpretation. I work in IT Support so I have a fair amount of experience reading crappy instructions. Yours was very helpful and again, thank you for saving me so much time and frustration.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crondar:
That's one of the problems with Android vs *gasp* Ipads, the fragmentation and butchering by some vendors leave a bad taste in some peoples mouths, so to speak.

If not for the developers working on the Gtab, I would have probably taken mine back way before now. Some people aren't all that tech savvy and even me, having worked with PC and various gadgets hardware and software wise for many years, and I still scratch my head from time to time.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewitte:
I've never had stock but keep testing ROMS. Even the more stable ones had bugs. I wish there was a really good stable Honeycomb out I'm considering the Asus tablet but want to wait for Kal-El. Partly because of the better screen/ram. Things that will never get fixed/upgraded with software.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
I think part of the problem is that a lot of the times communication is hard between the tech savy and the not-so tech savy.

In the android world, we say "flash" instead of "install". Believe it or not, but this is a source of confusion for a lot of people out there. For kicks, I did a search and couldn't find a single explanation that says something like flash = install. Remember that we're dealing with people who came from the PC world.

The confusion gets progressively worse from there. What's clockworkmod? What's recovery? What's nvflash? Try searching for these terms and you will find explanations that only induce more questions.

I regularly have to instruct totally tech-illiterate people how to use their devices. This has given me an insight into how to communicate with people who are not tech savy.