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[Epic 4G General] cornaljoe:
Recently Samsung has been releasing the source about a week before Sprint releases the official update. Not every time but they have done it more than once. Hopefully this will happen again.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
well hopefully whosdaman can get the .tar for us once it becomes official so we can all have it :)!
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
That's the access he just got back, right?

Sent from my armed and operational battle station.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Right, he cant leak things before they're official but once ota starts or its official he can dump it here so we can all have it first day :) i hope... dont quote me lol.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
That's exactly what I took from it as well.
[Epic 4G General] duce102:
Whosdaman should have some news for us later on today as far as gb release dates go.... at least that's what I got from one of his posts from monday
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
hey i said dont quote me :o
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I'll quote you

And around seven eastern I'm going to see if it if coming or not this monday. If not it'll probably be the 27th
[Epic 4G General] nimaim:
Thank you sir! :)
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I really hope so. Just seen the article stating the Epic's little brother is being released in July with 2.3 for around $100 upgrade or less. I hope Sprint don't hold out on us until then for sales.
[Epic 4G General] tony45x220:
Can we have a link please on that little brother?

Sent from my rooted, suited, & booted Epic 4G kno dat!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Here is the link. It is called the Samsung Conquer and not scheduled for release until July 24th. Good news is GB has released in many parts of Europe and soon to the UK before hitting here.

http://droidupdate.net/sprint-to-launch-samsung-conquer-4g-on-july-24.html
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Tomorrow I'll have an update at around 9, unless Ecooce gets his hands on the Playbook before me. I got let off work early.
[Epic 4G General] LemonHead2089:
guess we'll just have to sleep on it!

btw is that 9 AM or PM? I was wondering the same thing in your earlier post when you said 7
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
9 AM, but I have an update now. No news on the Epic. Let's look forward to next week :)
[Epic 4G General] willverduzco:
Trolling posts deleted. Keep it clean in here, guys. No need to troll or be argumentative. Future violations will be met with infractions and temporary bans.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Any wagers that gps still won't work for quite a few users and that the keypad still misses keys occassionally?
[Epic 4G General] SINNN:
Naw... I bet its fixed. Kinanes last rom has it fixed 100%. If his rom is fixed them in sure sprint has a few trolls in here stealing the fixed code.
[Epic 4G General] tony45x220:
Appreciate the link...but looks like a step across with only a 3.2 mp camera and other average specs (compared to new phones coming out) and with us being updated to 2..3 (by then I'm positive we'll be gingerbread updated)...but it is a very nice Epic 4G little brother...I also like the fact their keeping the Qwerty.
[Epic 4G General] tizocalamilla:
i keep hearing about this "within" but i cant seem to find any info on it... does anybody have info on this like WHO MAKES IT?
[Epic 4G General] sryans2004:
Samsung within & I believe its going to be sprints galaxy s 2..
[Epic 4G General] tizocalamilla:
anyone think there is a chance touchwiz will also be updated in update?... just sayin cuz touchwiz4.0 looks killer!!!!!!!!!!
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
With all the beef on the Sprint EVO forum with their GB update, I'll bet Sprint is being VERY cautious with us Epic owners to make sure WE get a good gingerbread update. At least I can hope that's why EF10 and no news.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Within_id5537
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
This is for the Samsung Galaxy S2, so not the specific Sprint phone, but this should give some detail around what exactly it is:

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/feature.html

It's been said the WiThin is going to be the Galaxy S2 for Sprint, with a release date somewhere around the end of July. The GS2 has been the hottest thing (with fantastic reviews) for those places it's already been released.

I'm hoping we get a great experience here as well, as I'm banking on this being my next phone.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
EF10 was on sprints website since you guys brought up this thread

Since i was on there
[Epic 4G General] jeremiah.rs:
huh? what are you talking about dude?
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
RDF files are put up on sprints website that releate to the build numbers

the current rdf was named EF10

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[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Sprint admins confirmed that they have a build "EF10" over on their website Sprint.com lol not the actual download but talking about it
[Epic 4G General] jeremiah.rs:
wait what, they put up adobe pdf's? i thought it was just those rdf things that they put up when they have a new build.
[Epic 4G General] Modmyppc:
please provide a link, I just searched ef10 and put it in there search bar with no results.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Sprint Forums, i don't know the exact link
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
try this thread:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219066

or this one...

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219974
[G Tablet General] juanaraya92679:
Yesterday I helped a friend install honeycomb on his Dell Streak7, which was a pain in my arse btw because their forums had no good instructions. It got me thinking hWHY does a 7 inch Dell Streak7 get HC with everything working and not the G tablet. WTF?? lol sorry i just don't get it. Did they just get lucky with video drivers and what not? Makes no sense to me. Then again i'm not a developer so maybe than it would make more sense. Thanks to those working on HC for Gtablet. Had to let that out. :) But with the question, does anyone know why a dell streak 7 ****ty tablet would have Honeycomb with everything working and the G-Tablet wouldn't?
[G Tablet General] TJEvans:
Only a guess here, but perhaps the Dell Streak, being a crappy tablet, has a lot less hardware demand than the G-Tablet.
[G Tablet General] juanaraya92679:
True, never thought about that....
[G Tablet General] RedWolf023:
I'm wondering if you can get Android Honeycomb on a Windows 7 Tablet and if it is difficult or not?
[G Tablet General] fosser2:
ya dude! totally possible. You just gotta rebuild the kernel from the ground up and figure out how to get android to run on an atom processor!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
(gets on soapbox)

Why do we even need mods at all? (being serious here, not sarcastic) Some of the users here purchased their GTAB for $400, but even at $279 it's not chump change. Heck, you can buy an Xbox for that, a PS3 or a netbook.

So we get this device with really decent hardware specs (except the screen), but the software is AWFUL. So Google finally responds, months later, with Honeycomb. But...we're not allowed to have it. And Nvidia agrees as well - no hardware drivers for you!

This whole situation, when you look at it from the outside in, is really sad. We shouldn't have to do this at all - Google should be working with Nvidia and Malata to get HC out on these devices ASAP. It would be good for Google, good for the manufacturer, and good for the consumer. Everyone would win.

So, why hasn't that happened? This isn't a 100 dollar ChiPad that's disposable, it's a tablet from a well-known vendor. Honestly, it MS gets its act together and deploys Windows 8 on ARM, I might drop Android like a bad habit next year. We shouldn't have to play these games.

(ends rant)
[G Tablet General] Mantara:
[Initiating slow clap] Well spoken sir. I spent 400 for mine and in no way is this a throw away pad. Even at the prices today its no joke. Google, VS, and nvidia are all looking at Gtab like some sort of stillborn fetus. Just flush it and pretend it didn't happen.

If they wont listen I can at least speak my mind with my money. I just returned the nvidia SLI motherboard and the 2 blackhawk grafix cards I purchased for my next computer build project. In my email I told them I no longer trusted them to support their products and told them that when they stopped supporting 6 month old teck it left me no choice but to build using their competition.

Suck it nvidia.
[G Tablet General] fosser2:
If viewsonic chooses to release a 2.3 or 3.0 android version for the g tablet will nvidia release the drivers for hardware acceleration?

http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/honeycomb-harmony
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Just words, as far as I'm concerned. Where's the Harmony build for Gingerbread, with hardware acceleration? We're still waiting on that. Should we blame Malata for not wanting Gingerbread or Honeycomb badly enough? I find that hard to believe. We know Notion Ink wants it.

Just words. Like Viewsonic telling us that they will continue to support the device and give us updates (and even, at one point, subtly allude to Honeycomb) and then not give us an updated ROM (that stuck) since January.

Again, let them prove me wrong. Let's see a GB ROM with full hardware acceleration, this month. Or let's see Viewsonic / Malata get us a HC ROM, this month. Shock me, I'd love it if they did that. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
Isn't it obvious that google is beginning to act more like microsoft?

I honestly don't think viewsonic meant anything big out of the gtab. I'm thinking someone was drunk and decided to sign the papers agreeing to rebrand the gtab. The gtab's rise in popularity through the word of mouth took them by surprise and now they have no idea what to do next.

Viewsonic has instead decided to spend all their energy on pushing the viewpad 10 into the business world. So far, it's been a big failure. Not only that, they are coming out with the viewpad 10pro, which will be prised at around $800.

Sometimes, I don't understand why these mega corporations just let things slide like that.
[G Tablet General] Icedvoco:
Agreed, the BS we have been feed has put me right off the whole lot of them. Id love to see a ARM version of windows on this thing, the idea of a OS that actually utilises the device correctly makes me smile :) Oh how great this thing would be with a OS that actually supported the device correctly.
[G Tablet General] dfin13:
Off topic I guess, but I played with a Dell Streak 7 for a couple of days while selling it for a friend. My god, what a terrible, terrible machine. The viewing angles are basically the same as the gTablet, but the resolution is so low it's comical for a 7" screen, and the battery life reminds me of my old MotoQ -- sucks the same amount of power awake as it does asleep.

The only pluses were that it was reasonably fast, and that the feel and heft of the tablet was good, would've made a nice eReader if the screen wasn't so bad.
[G Tablet General] juanaraya92679:
Ya i noticed those faults as well and still frustrated My friend has a Fully Working Verison of Honeycomb with Hardware accel, camera, flash, and opengl in browser. WIth honeycomb the tablet actually is pretty zippy.
[G Tablet General] fosser2:
Since Atom Ink wants GB/Honeycomb so bad. Why cant they request the hardware drivers from NVIDIA? Technically according to what the NVIDIA guy said, that is 100% possible.
[G Tablet General] rajeevvp:
The Android x86 project has made tremendous progress since the last time I looked. They don't have a Gingerbread-based distribution yet, but, they have fully working Froyo-based CDs which you can try out on your desktops, laptops and netbooks.

If you want to port any kind of Android to x86-based hardware this is where you'll have to start.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
That's my point - I suspect that they have. And yet it hasn't materialized. If I was Notion Ink, I'd be sending them emails daily asking for this - it's definitely in their best interest to have it. And Malata, as well.

Again, I think Nvidia is full of it.
[G Tablet General] fosser2:
I wonder if there's anyone that we could contact at Atom that would give us a straight answer about this question.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Just look at Notion Ink's blogs - I think it's fairly obvious what's going on. They had a GB port, but no hardware acceleration. Nvidia is either unwilling or unable to help them get their Adam device working on GB.

Granted, they have mentioned June 27th as the date to get the Adam devices HC. So maybe they did strike a deal with them. And if they did, where is Viewsonic? If the Adam gets HC on the 27th, I think everyone with a GTablet should be tweeting / emailing / calling Viewsonic that day saying "what about us?".
[G Tablet General] Roxxas049:
Unfortunately someone at viewsonic seems to think that your suggestion sounds a little too much like "work" and have abandoned us completely. I email and call VS almost daily but all I get are canned responses or detours to some tech number in a foreign country.

How can it be that simply ignoring a problem is actually a solution in this day and age?
[G Tablet General] TJEvans:
how much was the NI Adam brand new at release? And comparitively how much was the G-Tablet brand new, at release? What's the price for continued support?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
For a comparable Adam (LCD Wifi), back in December, they were close - $425 shipped versus ~$425 for the GTAB, assuming 6-7% tax. Their 3G and PQ versions were higher.

But they haven't dropped their prices with their latest pre-order, which I find a bit strange. I assume that there's still a demand for the Pixel Qi.
[G Tablet General] spamhead:
I'd be interested in starting a pool on whether NI meets its self-imposed June 27 deadline. $5 says no.
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
Just sent VS an email asking when we'll be getting either ginger or HC. Will be sending them an email every day from now on.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I called them yesterday, after a month's hiatus. I was told that something is being worked on, but no other details of course. All very vague.

Personally, I have the same request for Viewsonic now as I have for the last 6 months. If there is something coming, just give us a heads up. This veil of secrecy might work for Apple, but it's not going to work here.
[G Tablet General] TarheelGrad1998:
IMHO, I think the industry as a whole seems sub $1k devices as throw away. They produce it, hype it, sell it, then move to the next device. They expect consumers to do the same. It's the way keep income flowing. They sadly don't see keeping existing customers happy as a revenue source.

The only way to change it is to stop buying the new devices just because they're new.
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
I agree. Apple's veil of secrecy actually produces results. And they have a track record of producing results. VS has a track record of not producing anything.
[G Tablet General] cjackxiii:
I've heard this narrative before but I don't agree with it. From the sidelines it appears as if they expected the tablet to be popular so they ordered a large amount of tablets from malata but after they didn't sell fast enough they dumped them off on various no return sites like woot and tiger direct before their new product line became available.

Initially they had displays around most chain stores like Staples and Office Max. Then they shifted gears. At $269 I believe they are making little to any profit per tablet. Without those hefty profit margins they aren't able to afford the type of software and customer support we come to expect from are top tier electronic manufacturers.

What used to give me hope was the fact that there exist numerous variation of the Gtab out their (Olipad, Gtab, Vega etc). My hope was that one of those manufacturers would successfully lobby for the correct drivers but unfortunately all seem to have moved on. (The latest being Olivetta, they released their Olipad in March, barely 3 months ago, and they're already abandoning in moving on to their Olipad 110 http://notebookitalia.it/olivetti-olipad-110-con-android-honeycomb-foto-live-11823

Either way I completely agree with the rest of the posters in this thread. Were getting shafted and like robeet I will also probably be jumping ship to the first sub $600 windows 8 tablet especially seeing as how microsoft seems to be successfully pressing manufactures to update their phones as soon as updates are available.

Ultimately I believe the losers in this fiasco are first and foremost Viewsonic for failing on all fronts.

Then google for no effective means of quality control that unfortunately, and maybe indirectly, tarnishing their brand in the eyes of 30+ thousand first adopters and customers with disposable income without blind allegiance to apple. I believe these customers are the most important because they are the most forgiving and the most vocal. If you don't build strong brand loyalty then your consumers will abandon you as soon as you make your first mistake. (Look at apple, the iphone 4 has been its most successful iphone but it was pretty much outdated when it was released)

Then to a smaller degree Nividia. Nividia is in some ways a loser by just being involved in this whole ordeal. Guilty by association. Theirs probably legal reason why they aren't able to develop and release hardware drivers directly to the customer but in all this it seems as tho they have been the most responsive to the public.

The only winner in my eyes is Notion Ink. They have demonstrated to me the business ethics necessary in giving me the confidence to invest my money into an unknown start-ups products. They turned me into a fan I when they do decide to release a new product I will definitely be considering it for my next purchase.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
They haven't managed HC yet, but given that their product is about five months old now (I'm going on when it was shipped), and that they've just recently released an updated Froyo ROM and a GB pre-alpha, I have to give them a lot of credit for ongoing support of their customer base. And if they actually get HC working, that would be the icing on the cake. The Adam users will have definite bragging rights, and they definitely deserve it.

Right now, if Viewsonic and Notion Ink released new comparable tablets and I had to choose between them, I would definitely lean towards NI. I'm still not thrilled with their high shipping and return policies, but they've demonstrated good post-sales support and that goes a long way in my eyes. In that way they remind me of Cowon.

You listening, Viewsonic? If you really have a new ROM cooking, why not announce it with an estimated date and some details on what's being planned. If you don't say anything, then I have to assume the worst.
[G Tablet General] cjackxiii:
My sentiments exactly. It makes me wonder why certain android blogs (androidcommunity) would constantly publish articles bad mouthing NI, hoping they go belly up. I'm aware of their missed deadlines and sometimes releasing misinformation but it never seemed to warrant all the negative press they received.
[G Tablet General] yashmack:
whats the difference in hardware from say a Dell Streak to the gtablet that prevents us from being able to grab the drivers from those tablet for honeycomb?

there are lots of tablets out there that use the same hardware as the gtablet

maybe I can simplify my question a bit

i know there are 2 different versions of the tegra 2, Harmony and Ventanna

has there been a single harmony tablet with a honeycomb update?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
DELL Streak is a Snapdragon CPU, not a Tegra 2.

Harmony and Ventana are different development Nvidia boards, with Harmony being the older of the two. Harmony only has Froyo support (regardless of what Nvidia claims - we have yet to see GB drivers for it). Ventana has Froyo and GB support and we assume HC as well, although they haven't offered any public images for that. Although devices like the Xoom / TF / ACER are all Tegra 2's, they are based on different development boards and thus it's not that easy to port it to Harmony. Especially when none of the source code has been released by either Google nor Nvidia.

There has not been an "official" HC ROM for Harmony yet, only the hacks for the Adam / VEGA / GTAB that various developers have reverse engineered.
[G Tablet General] ssmr2t:
Beating a dead horse IMO..

I call viewsonic, and get given an international number for support.

In fact, its always the same person when you call.

I try to add viewsonic as a friend on facebook and they deny me.

I think the best bet is to request for Lulzsec's help.. they may get some good (negative) attention for viewsonic :D
[G Tablet General] rrgreentree:
Not just that, I'd be making a huge public stink about the fact that Nvidia has refused to respond to my requests, in the hopes of pressuring them to do so. Notion Ink is a very small startup company, which makes them perfectly situated to do this kind of thing without too much concern about large-scale controversy/fallout harming them.
[G Tablet General] nycbjr:
Acer is a ventana board
[G Tablet General] yashmack:
this is what I thought, wasnt sure though

too bad they seem to have just dropped Harmony support :(

my next tablet will not be Viewsonic and will probably not be nvidia either, im going to wait for one of the new Texas Instruments OMAP based tablets
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
You know, I thought the whole point of these companies making the hardware and these tablets is to compete with the ipad market. How on Zeus' green earth do they hope to do that if they don't support their own devices? The bastards who made the decision to stop their support are running their companies into the ground.
[G Tablet General] lanegd01:
On the ez-pad site is letter in Chinese from Malata regarding future supporrt for the T2. I don't read Chinese and as it is an image it doesn't translate . From the comments it is not good news

image added, I couldn't find the link

found it

http://www.ez-pad.net/android-4864-1-1.html
[G Tablet General] fosser2:
can you post a link to that? i'll see if i can get it translated.
[G Tablet General] StereoD:
Link please :)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
At least Malata is responding. That's more that what we get.

And yes, that's a rant on my part and I think I have every right to (as well as every other GTAB owner out there).
[G Tablet General] goodintentions:
That's worse than trying to read greek.
[G Tablet General] amusedkid:
Translation

Hey guys,

I read chinese. The letter doesn't really say anything that we don't already know/think they will say.

Contents:

Dear xxx,

We have received your letter. Thank you for writing to us. At this moment, the T2 (ref to Malata SMB1002) is running on Android OS 2.2. Any future upgrades, if available, will be announced via our website.

Thank you.

BTW. The font size is really too damn tiny and the picture too pixelated. Took me a while to make out the characters.
[G Tablet General] c-loo:
After reading this thread and playing with a Xoom, I am feeling the pull to get another tablet. I bought a g tablet to test my interest. I know I will use it often. I am just getting annoyed with all the waiting for it to get better. I do appreciate what the various devs have done. I just wonder why nothing from Viewsonic or Nvidia is being done to help.
[G Tablet General] yashmack:
Because they have new tablets to worry about... >.>

honestly I hope they provide an update after honeycomb and ice cream sandwich are released, if not then im not too worried

my plan at this point is to get one of the new OMAP archos tablets annouced recently

1.5GHz dual core stock :)

OMAP is also the chose platform for Google's engineers
[G Tablet General] ewitte:
I have a feeling if they had released a product with better hardware, at least more stable software and 10x the number of people purchased it then they may have allowed an upgrade.

The ASUS has that going for it for the future lots of people jumped on it and we even have source code so...