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[Desire General] din89pm:
At first (A month ago), I was anxiously waiting for a gingerbread update. Since HTC did promise us with an update afterall. So I waited and waited and waited.. Finally HTC says that it doesnt fit. I felt so discouraged on using HTC Desire. I started to think about selling my phone.

Then I visited the XDA forum around 3-5 days ago. I checked out the Noob Proof Everything Desire Guide. I was like whatever, lets just give it ago. I was not scared to root it, but was only scared to S-OFF it since there is a risk of bricking my phone. But no it was EASY AS PIE.

Anyways going straight to the point, I flashed my ROM to InsertCoin and wow. I got Ginger bread + sense 3.0 + desire hd stuffies. Its like the best of 3 worlds. And the ROM was perfect. No issues AT ALL. Why should I get the OTA from HTC for ginger bread?

Then they come to us with a so called "news" that some apps will be removed. LOL. And that is supposed to make us happy how? I doubt they will be modest and remove Plurk, footprints, teeter and all the HTC mambo jumbos..

They would probably remove some things that they will think is unnecessary like :

1. Screen lock animation - they will assume we dont need this. When this is one of ginger bread cool parts.

2. Ginger bread keyboard - Ofcourse they will remove this, and place their own.

3. The scroll down to the end orange bump animation - They will think we dont need this as well.

4. Some wallpapers...

After removing all the above, how in the world would anyone know that it is a ginger bread anymore. Is like oh you're using 2.3 so what? One more thing made me freaking dont care about the update, the worst part among all!! Yes the infamous and notorious memory issue. After the update you will probably have 90 ~ 100MB free.

I dont give a damn for that stupid update. Cause after you root the phone and flash your ROM. You get A2SD+ (NO MORE MEMORY FRUSTRATIONS). XDA forum rocks!!
[Desire General] KrewCial:
They said they would remove applications, not functions, features or animations. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
[Desire General] wska:
For anybody, thinking that rooting is perfect and stuff ( I agree thou :D ), it did actually a lot of work, and made desire better than anytime before, my point is, WHY not get an official update (Drivers are perfect there) and then root it ??? and even tweak it ???

I mean with it, our DEVs will do the impossible to this phone, imagine a perfect GB rom with our dev's modifications.... WOW !!!

(Let HTC sense die, i want the GB rom)

Don't ya agree with meh ? :D

-= personal opinion =-
[Desire General] Da Big D:
I wouldn't mind getting a crippled version of Sense 2.1 and GB for Desire. Though I don't know about how to make a ROM, basing it on this official release would probably be more stable than creating it from scratch.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I think the main thing coming from an official desire rom might be the video recording part - most other roms seem very stable, just the display of watching a vid back is stretched...
[Desire General] kazgor:
is this true when watching say a Divx with Rockplayer? or are you just talking about the recordings doing via the phone?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Via phone. Not tried on rock player
[Desire General] Lothaen:
too lazy to try (see leaked rom)? seems a bit counter productive... :)
[Desire General] nickislauw:
Too lazy to finish it! Well the leaked version hasnt got the new sense but it was definetly faster then froyo.. so
[Desire General] Lothaen:
that's why I thought they should just finish that and push it out - at least its:

A) Gingerbread (+ any bugfixes, speedy etc.) = people will be happy

B) HAS HTC Sense at all... = people will be kinda happy (or people not know the difference in the upgrade for people who aren't in the know)

C) Makes them not look lazy and/or going back on their word
[Desire General] mawardi:
Well HTC have become Samsung and vice versa. Samsung now is really pushing Gingerbread on their phones even the low-range ones. Sucks to accept the fact.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
That's cause Samsung is Google new best buddy, as was HTC when we were first to get FroYo - swings and roundabouts guys, get over it
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Yep, at least we have some awesome custom roms already :)
[Desire General] andQlimax:
How if this news is a fake?

Differents live support of differents countries saing NOW that the update is still confirmed for bravo!

How the customer service can't know this??
[Desire General] Lothaen:
poor communication / time zone differences / not read the memo/email ?
[Desire General] infamous6622:
a year ago htc said the desire was getting divx support, what happened to that?? htc, you continue to disappoint!!
[Desire General] andQlimax:
It's impossible..It's not a decision of the last hour "ok, no update"..

Anyway i'm waiting (from 15 minutes now) a double check from my country, i sent the uk facebook link..she asking someone for a confirmation..Will updaate here the result
[Desire General] Jandyman:
Can someone plz answer me this iv looked but havnt found an answer yet: is this announcement only regarding the original desire? Or is the desire Z/g2 and other desires not getting gingerbread eithar?
[Desire General] gthe:
This is bad news from HTC. But good news for XDA reputation!

Hopefully xda forum has excellent devellopers that can provide us with excellent stable custom ROMs with even much more features than the official ones :). We have to donate to encourage them ... !

HTC could at least release an update with gingerbread + the old Sense. I can't imagine that this should be a problem ...
[Desire General] 4rm45:
If gingerbread doesn't fit in desires internal memory, what's this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1018843

"This rom installed 100% on 250mb System partition No need for S-OFF and custom MTD n EVEN SDCARD."
[Desire General] Lothaen:
probably one tweaked to more than HTC are willing to allow.

@gthe - the leaked one would be fine IMO :o
[Desire General] Bl@ck:
They're not lazy, they just realized that the htc Desire was still selling like the first day, just look at the last UK phone chart the htc Desire is still at 4th place after 1 year, so they just cutted this update out to promote their other devices (Desire S, Incredible S). It's marketing.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
lol

I hashed out the f word...
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I wonder if this will actually increase sales...

think about it - a cheap SD card (I got a class 10 16GB for <£20), a secondhand or even new Desire, can be as good as the Desire S, with added bonuses with a custom rom...
[Desire General] d2kx:
What a complete joke. Well, the HTC Desire was a good choice when I bought it in mid-2010 and it has excellent community support through XDA etc., so I'm safe for now. I am running CyanogenMod and MIUI anyway, I wonder if we will even get Ice Cream Sandwich...
[Desire General] 2000impreza:
Kernel source

I wonder if HTC will release the kernel sources for the leaked gingerbread rom. I kind of doubt it since the rom was never officially released.
[Desire General] gothfebrio:
galaxy s already got their gingerbread 2.3.3 last month, and theres even 2.3.4 leaked rom available.
[Desire General] Agosh13:
fake news

HTC Wildfire S has the same memory and it have HTC Sense 2.1 & Android 2.3
[Desire General] Lothaen:
unless HTCs facebook page got hacked I doubt this is fake.
[Desire General] nickislauw:
and even galaxy S2
[Desire General] Embattle:
The fact is when you look at the various information about other phones, custom roms then it is possible but probably a bit hard without allocating more resources to it.

A lot of us will end up with 24 month contracts so it isn't really possible for us all to easily shift to newer more up to date phones so the software upgrades are a way to negate this issue.

I would of liked them to offer some options such as just android without sense or something else rather than nothing.
[Desire General] chichoko:
Guess its time to spam those CS's and Facebook pages now :) We did it for the bootloaders... Hell! Lets do it again!
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
Very disappointed in HTC think I wont buy HTC phone anymore. But big complain on twitter and FB I see, maybe they will change their mind.
[Desire General] escort82:
Also confirmed here in HTC CROATIA..nooo update
[Desire General] vbetts:
Well this is coming from an Evo user, but even if there was a 2.3 update for the Desire from HTC it would probably only have Sense 1.0 on it to keep internal space free for apps. Well Sense 1.0 compared to 2.0, and 2.1 even is eh.....Not satisfying.
[Desire General] pavel54:
Damn, HTC most marketing phones i was ever seen :(
[Desire General] bartoloandre98:
Lol everyone talking about samsux and their slow updates etc,and sgs received ginger love....

Next phone is going to be Samsung for me...
[Desire General] madmossy:
I think if HTC are no longer going to support the device then they should release the code necessary for the already incredibly large Desire community to do it for them.
[Desire General] andQlimax:
All seems confirmed from htc Italia too (I will never wrote any letter of "htc" in upper case anymore LOL :D )

But really I don't understand why gingerbread and old sense can't fit the desire memory..The leaked ruu does, also with no app2sd, it will have few space to install new apps, but that is the same space of froyo and old sense...
[Desire General] pavel54:
I think updating Desire to 2.3 especially with 2.1 sense is really uncomfortable for them because it will reduce selling of for example Sensation, so less money, wildfire s can get 2.3 ;) (as the worse phone) i think...

(sorry for my bad english)

regards and thanks for xda devs:cool:
[Desire General] Tazzzz:
*curses with inside voice, goes to Desire Android Development to see whats new *
[Desire General] Lothaen:
more likely the desire S

as that has all that Desire should be with the internal memory issue fixed
[Desire General] lunoma:
Well I don't really care so much because the dev team here is really active and amazing, thanks guys! When you compare an open-source OS like Android with a closed-source one like Apple's iOS, you're left with two main choices. You can either have a device constantly being updated but not open source and restricted and with less choice of models, or dozens of open source devices by many manufacturers but with the possibility of not receiving the latest Android updates. But due to their open-source nature, many devoted developers can manage to unlock bootloaders, create and flash new custom ROMS regularly. To me, XDA offers better support and help than HTC ever did, and they know their stuff! Now, Sense 3.0 is being ported to the HTC Desire, even an official update would never have this! ;)
[Desire General] Anakha56:
And in other news the htc Flyer will not be receiving the Honeycomb update due to "Lack of processor power" according to a htc rep "they did not realise that Honeycomb performs better with a dual core therefore to keep our customers "happy" we will go back on our promise to the community."

HTC quietly screwing their loyal customers.

/please note the above skit re the flyer is fake from my end just peeved about htc's lack of commitment. The least they could do is provide the kernel open sourced so we can get better features from the dev's...

//Screwed with the Diamond, now the Desire. I am going iPhone from now on...
[Desire General] xynite:
so freakin dissapointed ... I'm not trusting HTC anymore ...
[Desire General] Fightspit:
MDPI vs HDPI
[Desire General] Fightspit:
Just wanna to say again:

MDPI vs HDPI
[Desire General] jurc:
Finally I found the reason to root and flash my Desire!
[Desire General] coolexe:
Hi,

dont worry about that...bcoz desire dev is still here...btw custom ROM is much batter then stock ROM...we need just kernel source...

Sent From My Nokia N900
[Desire General] kazgor:
Also disappointed with HTC.!!

Glad we have the great XDA Devs, and i was holding of rooting until we had at least this update out, has i doubted we would get anymore after 2.3.

My only problem with XDA is that some of the great info/tools/roms are just all squished into a single forum and it just so horrid trying to find any upto date info on how to proper root etc.

I really wish the forum was split further to try and tidy up Stable Roms from Beta Roms.

Also the really long subject lines make it hard on the eye trying to scan the forum quickly

but thats just me being picky.. i like a things neat and tidy.
[Desire General] jullman:
it's just to be sure to sell more because they already have the rating in htc, they have a good rise in turnover

it's just for more money

but I would not change because there has XDA Dev ;)
[Desire General] Anakha56:
Agree with you there, just need to spam htc's fb page with the request and maybe they will shows a tiny bit of love and give it to us...
[Desire General] Meaple:
Tbh custom roms are way better than that manufacturer crap that they made.
[Desire General] mortuus82:
Yeah and robbing banks is also a great way to get money.. no thx. I prefer a regular version, i see no need rooting it to get gingerbread when htc has promised this long that we will get it, if i knew this before i would sold my phone long ago but now i dont have money cause everyone expected we will get it this year sometime.
[Desire General] island3r:
Also, if you explain what you want to say, it will save you the trouble of saying it again.
[Desire General] franckleroy:
No matters that HTC does not support gb, the ones who care about this, have already rooted their phone in order to flash an alternative rom from XDA

Franck
[Desire General] lilhaiti:
They must be talking about ROM because the the Desire has more RAM than the EVO and it got the official update last week.
[Desire General] psinno:
Me too I guess. Didn't think I would need to do it so soon. Very disappointing.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 <- great link for instructiosn on how to root from start to finish

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809328 <- link for the index of roms

You can usually see if they are stable or not from the index or the words STABLE in the title... however I will agree that it does kinda look a bit messy with long subject lines.

The index is probably a nicer way to browse :p
[Desire General] beidl:
Well, I have modified coolexes Ace port (which still needs an ext partition on the SD card if you use many apps) to completely run off the NAND and at the same time provide enough space for apps on the data partition. Just get rid of the 40 megs of cache, modify the ramdisk to point Market downloads to the SD card and that's it. I have 36 apps (including Flash and a few games) installed with 90 MB of space available on the data partition, all without an ext partition. I really don't understand what kind of drugs their engineers must have been doing lately.
[Desire General] ste1164:
Bit of an annoyance for you guys. I just don't understand how the EVO can run gingerbread fine and it has same specs internally...
[Desire General] coolexe:
Bro EVO has 1GB ROM...

Sent From My Nokia N900
[Desire General] ste1164:
Yea thanks :D I just remembered now my bad.
[Desire General] ralfred:
This is a scandal because HTC does not care of their customers

I'm sad about this
[Desire General] bliblablub:
Shame on you, HTC. This is now the second Phone from HTC that I owned which had lacks in their programming or hardware design.

First the Kaiser didn't have dedicated graphic drivers, now the Desire has not enough memory... Nah, why do you guys put in so less memory??? Don't understand it... Thats only some $$$!
[Desire General] krytak:
+1 same story :mad: No more HTC phones for me, disappointed :(
[Desire General] tickmaster:
Looks like Samsung or SE is better choice now.

But when i realize that in one year HTC pushed out 4 high end phones i must say their marketing sux
[Desire General] Kameo:
WTF ?!?

So you meant that my Desire running Insertcoin Gingerbread + Sense 2.1 is nothing but a trick?

Fire those lame engineers and hire xda devs... or at least give the real reason.

I was gonna buy the Sensation, but might consider switching to Samsung then.
[Desire General] Futuredev.tjb:
BS this the second HTC device that I had that this has happened to. No more HTC devices for me.
[Desire General] Nuntius:
Limitations seem to be hardware wise (using GB + Sense 2.1 seems to be hard without SD-Ext).

I'm just surprised it took them (HTC) so long to get to that conclusion...
[Desire General] do0b:
i dont get why ppl from this forum are crying about this. most of us would've been on 2.3.3 with custom rom. this tbh doesnt really change a thing except for regular users.
[Desire General] nochains:
I think HTC should release their work in the current state for the devs could access to newer drivers and so on .

BTW shame on you HTC!
[Desire General] Lord_Quack:
I don't think some people are understanding the point coming across...

GingerSense cannot be run off the phone as it is supplied- there is just not enough memory available. SD-EXT is essential to running it.

Sure, they may strip it down, completely screw up the experience, but it will run GingerSense... But then we will have crappy official updates. They can't make it SD-EXT seeing as most people won't have a clue what to do...

Seeing as this is XDA, hardly anyone has to worry about it- almost everyone is running a custom rom!
[Desire General] Embattle:
I think you'll find quite a few do understand but don't accept it.
[Desire General] samhiggs1988:
A balanced take on things...

www dot unwiredview dot com/2011/06/14/htc-desire-wont-get-android-2-3-gingerbread-after-all-heres-why/

HTC: Quietly Bullshitting
[Desire General] TopGear63z:
I've nothing to say about samsung:P

but forget SE asap, x10 didn't even get froyoxD

Dissappointed for the people who haven't rooted or anything like that;)

People who are going to root because of this, good luck:)
[Desire General] Beagan:
okay it has been proven that your devices cant run it and i am coming from the Desire Z forums, HTC gave a legit reason and yet yous are still fuming? yous have one of the best devices for dev support, yous should be happy with the support your device. If you rally want gingerbread with sense make an ext partition, im sure there is a guide on how to make one. Just remember you were never guaranteed updates in the first place when you bought the phone
[Desire General] UKseagull:
Thanks for the link.

It's clickable here http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/06/...-android-2-3-gingerbread-after-all-heres-why/
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Sense 2.1 it's too much, but gingerbread with old sense (this what they was going to release) does fit our desire!
[Desire General] Gurdjieff:
(But wildfire S have same rom size, and it have 2.3 and 2.1 sense, am i right?)

Ok i get it
[Desire General] andQlimax:
This because the wildfire S is MDPI so the rom is "smaller" than one HDPI
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
Well, I won't be buying another HTC phone for one.

Why?

Because I am so annoyed with the "2.3 will 100% be coming in Q2" messages coming from HTC for the past 4 months. Why not just say "its not coming" in the first place. Did they only just realise that the bog standard phone has 512mb internal space? What a crock.

Galaxy S2 here we come.
[Desire General] Timbits93:
Eh, while i don't personally own a Desire (sis does), its a shame due to them saying that it will receive Gingerbread period.

It's most likely the marketing people trying to stop them from pushing out this update as to not affect sales of current generation devices (S-series devices and Sensation)

X10 is getting the Gingerbread update sometime this/next month :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Meaple:
All those nubs complaining of no 2.3, well there's something called root your bloody phone and whack on a custom rom.
[Desire General] Lord_Quack:
Haha, exactly... Having an Android handset and not rooting is basically keeping its potential locked up... I have full root, and I would like to inform all the moaners of this- I have Gingerbread 2.3.3 on my desire, with a mix of sense 2.1 and 3.0. More info in my sig.

Rooting and using and Sd-EXT will give you what you are complaining about, and so much more! This is why this site is called xda DEVELOPERS... Its meant to be to let creativity flow... So let yours go too!
[Desire General] owziee:
Wtf!? Screw HTC! :mad: I know it's not hard to flash a custom rom, the thing is that HTC

promised

it's customers an official gingerbread update for the Desire in the 2nd quarter. Talk about a let down!

They're gonna lose a lot of customers over this, this gives me Sony Ericsson P990 flashbacks, SE f***ed their customers in a very similar way!

I thought I'd stay with HTC forever because I love their phones and the build quality have always been outstanding, sorry I can't stand this company anymore :eek: I'll look at a Samsung this summer!
[Desire General] leecavturbo:
+1 rooting is so much safer and flashing these days you'll be very unlucky for it to go pear shaped
[Desire General] CharlieCharlie24:
They said recently it was coming. Then all of a sudden they can't do it. Took a massive outcry for them to u-turn their policy on locked bootloaders. HTC really gone down in my estimation lately. Shame I used to be one of their biggest fans.
[Desire General] 08r3308:
That sux no more htc for me too
[Desire General] sleet77:
This is not true. Well kinda. I know devs working hard on custom roms but lets face it. There is no rom where everything works (ex. camcorder 720p, 720p playback, streched screen etc.). Im using rcmix myself but there are problems and its a fact.

I'm just trying to say, that official rom is official.
[Desire General] JoeArny:
It would be nice if they put the Work in Progress rom here and let people tweak it and use as our own risk... :D

Maybe changing the partitions and using a data2sd or other approach it would be possible to use it on desire... :D
[Desire General] loedrus:
I'm as unhappy with the decision of HTC as I'm happy that we have a community here at xda that will make up for it! Go devs!
[Desire General] nasimdejai:
People keep talking about custom ROMs.What about those of us who can't do rooting and flashing of custom ROMs.Remember,not everyone has the ability to do these technical stuff,i included.I've been looking forward to this Gingerbread update and they (HTC) come up with this crap? Hell no, no more HTC devices for me!!!
[Desire General] nasimdejai:
if that's the case,HTC should then release stock Gingerbread instead of a Sense version riddled with bugs. To be honest,i would prefer the stock GB.If only i knew how to get my device rooted,i would have had a stock build of gingerbread flashed onto my device.So man, dont give HTC credit for this f... up.Comments like these will only encourage HTC to get away with things like these.
[Desire General] afadzil21:
HTC SEA emailed me saying that the Gingerbread update would be pushing out 13/6. Boy was I pissed with this announcement. Looks like my next phone will be a SGS2.
[Desire General] nasimdejai:
man,dont be like that.not everyone can root and flash custom roms.even with instructions,people tend to brick their devices during said processes.So,forgive the few of us who are disappointed with the news that we are going to be stuck with froyo on our phones.
[Desire General] 08r3308:
Just last night on chat they said it was comming . And now they change their mind, if cm can do it so can htc , but all this is markrting to get us to buy new devices. Well no more from me
[Desire General] nasimdejai:
+1. never ever buying an HTC device again. I almost bought the HTC Flyer thinking they might release Honeycomb later on. But with this happening,I dont trust HTC as they will be releasing a 10 inch tablet with Honeycomb thereby changing their minds about upgrading the Flyer as this would affect the sales of the new tablet (10 incher)
[Desire General] Vuska:
But Strange... how come HTC WildFire S have GingerBread on it :confused::confused:

Look at Wild Fire S Specification...

I think maybe after this Desire i will go for LG Optimus 2X or Samsung Galaxy S II