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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] falconeight:
I owned two playbacks had to make sure it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. The flyer is not a spec'd out as the playbook but it doesn't matter because the flyer is versatile in ways other tablets can't even come close to.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] darkknight1114:
Sorry, that's the only tab I didn't own, I don't car for blackberry.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] OmniNut:
Well I just purchased the HTC flyer today and have been using it for a few hours now. Pretty impressed! Different from my experience with the demo version. Launcher isn't as sluggish as the demo I played with and the screen is brilliant. GPS works flawlessly if anyone cares. (locked in 5 seconds within 9ft - consistently). I think the only problem I have with it is that I can't root the damn thing ._. I don't even care for roms or kernels, I just want root access!! I will be running the battery through a few cycles to see what the true battery life is and see if I return it or not :>

Edit: I do have a huge problem. Apps don't size to fill the screen which I heard was a common problem with the flyer. How exactly do you fix this? (already tried downloading spare parts and unticking 'compatibility' mode)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] darkknight1114:
some apps dont, but most of the apps I have used fit just fine.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
That true, you sure?

There is this TV ad, that doesn't showcase any particular phone or carrier. It shows HTC phones from Sprint, Verizon, T-Mob, and non-carrier branded HTC handsets, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md52PdldJ1U

And also the "you" campaign TV ad, which doesn't show a phone at all, except for a couple seconds near the end, with the only carrier branding being the barely-visible (and easily missed) Sprint logo on the phone itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUkF1vVudA

Both these ads got lots of TV airplay in the past, in my area.

But back to your point, I don't see why Best Buy couldn't do some marketing for the Flyer. The device is still very new, so maybe we will see more marketing. At least the device was prominently displayed at the Best Buy stores I've been to, and the employees seemed to know about it, and had a good impression of the device.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
Most apps did but the problem are here the apps self and not the IO or the device. These apps are not independent from the screen resolution. 1985 was is acceptable but not today... :mad:

And honeycomb is also here a problem because many developer make rather a special versions for honeycomb then a independent version. And the next android version will kill them because then will be there only one version for phones and tablets :D

So, ask the developer to make a independent version or search for another app which did it well.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kkinder:
Did you reboot after toggling?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kkinder:
Maybe I don't watch enough TV but I think those are only on YouTube

BestBuy probably could. Although they'll get business for any kind of sales for any device so there isn't a reason to specifically push the Flyer.

Really I think the Best Buy exclusive was a mistake on HTC's part. You see Xooms on sale at Walmart now. Only being at one retailer that's only in larger cities is a mistake. Especially when so many people hate Best Buy and more yet don't live near one.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
I just said in my post, that those ads have been on TV many, many times.

If you don't watch much TV, how do you know those ads aren't there??? :-P
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kkkok8051:
like you mention,This is why i kick my samsung tab away and welcome my new htc flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] monkeytown:
hey,

i'm thinking of buying the flyer too but i'm a little concerned about some things:

- though the stylus is included, i still think it´s KINDA overpriced

- does the tab make good use of the stylus or does it really just have that 1 or 2 apps? (or could i prolly even get an ipad 2 with a stylus, get some drawing apps and have the same 'feeling'?)

- hows the battery?? some reviews say its POOR but some users say its actually pretty good....

on the other hand, 7 inch is pretty nice, the unibody is awesome too.

but altogether i still have the feeling of holding an oversized desire hd in my hands :P
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
In my opinion, you'll never get the same pen feeling from a capacities stylus on the iPad. The few stylus I own for my iPad have a soft rubber tip who never stimulated a pen and paper. The accuracy of the stylus was not as god as the Flyer.

If pen integration is important, then the Flyer is your best bet. Taking notes on my iPad never cut it for me. I actually feel comfortable taking notes on my Flyer during meetings. The smaller size ofis very conducive to portability... reviewing and annotating docs, email without the eye strain, referencing a guidebook.

If pen integration is not as important, then there are better devices out there for the money. The additional real estate on the iPad is still nicer for was nice for surfing the web on the couch and flipping through magazines or large format print media. But you can't slip it into your pocket and go out... In my case, I needed a man-purse... Which is not fashionable in the US.

Hope that helps.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
It depends from the country.

Yes, there are now only some applications which use the pen. But they did it quite good (see may drawings in another thread here).

When you read the technical specifiactions the battery will be poor, but when practice tells it is really good.

Yes, I also have a desire and when I switch I am always irritated how small my desire is... :D

But I like it, it is much more then a bigger desire, its a tab, you will use it as a tab, although we have to wait for honeycomb... htc make many changes in the sense applications to port them to tab expierence (mail, sms, web, notes, calendar, news, clock, weather, ...).

But I can understand you. Before I test all tablets in a store, I also was not convinced: Old android, small, no dual core, ... but from the first moment I begin to use it, I was assured.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] monkeytown:
yea ok, in my country, the stylus is included :p

the thing is, i really don´t need something like a tab (only reason i can tink of, is to replace my pc, but that´s too futuristic for now) BUT i would like to have a cool new toy :)

when i saw the flyer for the first time, i though it was kinda cool to actually draw on websites and stuff (but then i noticed that you have to take a screenie of everything which was a little let down tbh)

does the pen only works with the pre-installed htc apps? or with other drawing appes of the market too?

ofc the pen is a cool feature, but i´m still not convinced if its worth it ;(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GadjetGirl59:
I just bought my flyer yesterday and I an loving this little tablet with the "Big voice" . I copied almost all of my apps that I had from another tablet and 95% of them works just fine. I did not get the pen but maybe later. As to battery life, I have had this tablet on since 12 noon today and I still have about 15% left, I think that's pretty good.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
What PC functionality do you want to replicate on the tablet? A larger screen is much better for browsing the internet. A tablet will never replace a PC, unless you are only browsing the web, reading email, light office work, games and multimedia.

So you want to capture a webpage in html and annotate? That would be interesting, but not sure what the benefits would be. I can see copy and pasting text / pics... But you can do that through a regular browser.

If you don't understand why the pen would be helpful, then you don't need this particular tablet. There are other tablets which function the same (without pen) and at a lower cost.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] monkeytown:
hey, don´t to too harsh on me ;(

i only know this tablet from reviews and some youtube videos.....

well the main use of my pc are some office typing, web browsing but also adobe graphic stuff and music, movies.

i see why the pen is useful, though it has different styles of pens and so on.

if i´m wrong, then correct me plz, but as far as i know you can only use the pen with the notes and the kid-paint-app (don´t know the exact name). YOU would have to tell me, if the make-screenshot --> add-to-notes --> draw - process is an easy task or somehow tricky or whatever as i didn´t know that it just works that way (as i mentioned above, i thought you could draw on everything like desktop, webpage, pdf file in 'real-time')
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
It has, but you can't use it everywhere. Only in scribble (another painting tool) and notes you have all tools.

Incorrect, you can use the pen also in scribble, pdf-viewer and Polaris office (and maybe somewhere else).

Yes, in all other apps, you can use the pen only to make a screenshoot and then draw in this. But which use should it have to make drawings on a layer above your other applications? Why you should

do this?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] monkeytown:
i don´t know :p just thought it would work that way......now that i know about the screenie option, that´s fine too

is it possible to draw an pictures in the gallery?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
Yes, the gallery is another app where the pen works. I forgot it. This means that no screenshoot is done but you can paint in the whole picture (an example in another thread, last drawing below) and also use the zoom and scrolling from the gallery :)

Edit: The picture is selfs marked in the gallery with a little pen when you make your drawings on it and you can later (close and re-open) stil remove the drawings or fade it in or out. The picture is only the background.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] djarben:
htc flyer is 10 out.of 10

What u pay is what u get ...I agree with all comments for flyer ...I had iPad.transfoermer dock the galaxy tab and flyer now and I can say is the best of all...it has a very strong output for sound and Bluetooth streaming in my car ...better than iPad ...only reason I bought this for ...I'm loving it ...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] silverwind:
True...

This is the best tablet, IMO :)

The scribber technology does make a difference from other tablet..

I can make a highlight or writing on the screen ( I cant do it on my Ipad)... That is awesome :D

My only dissapointment is that some apps dont scale correctly :(

Hope HTC works on update to Honeycomb :rolleyes:

Cheers...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] MartinFick:
Responsive

I have been using the flyer for several weeks, I NEVER wait for it. Sometimes I wait for the site it is connecting to. I can't even imagine why I would want to upgrade even for free a year from now. It is spectacular. Resolution is perfect for the 7" form factor: anything more is wasted, less is a problem.

In the store, I picked this photo from google images to compare to tegra 2 devices:

http://www.mytripguru.com/Activities/194_tibet_(8).jpg

I zoomed all the way in and moved around. Kept up fine with the Flyer. I got large blank or large pixelated blocks with the Tegra 2 devices (by large, I mean large fractions of the screen), the dual cores were lagging. Perhaps it was the Honeycomb browser which sucked, by I doubt it (we'll be able to tell if they do upgrade the Flyer to Honeycomb, which I doubt, I suspect we'll see IceCream instead). I chalk it up to the snapdragon difference.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Wobblin30:
Huawei is bringing a 7 " Honeycomb tablet to the market which will hopefully bode well for the Flyer:

http://thisismynext.com/2011/06/20/...ummer-seven-inch-tablets-qualcomm-processors/

I really hope HTC pushes hard to update the device as I am not really a fan of 10" devices. The Flyer runs so well IMO that I am interested to see how far Honeycomb could push the device.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
I get 2 days on a charge, with a good amount of usage. Not sure if that qualifies as poor or good. But it seems good to me, since I'm used to charging my phone every day.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] nxtwrld:
I am getting a day, with real heavy usage. 5-6 hours the screen is on - reading, internet, mailing and 20-30 minutes of games. I am using the 3g version.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Yeah, your usage is definitely higher than mine, and I have the WiFi only version. Of course, your mileage may vary. This is my first tablet, so I don't know how the battery life compares to other tablets. But considering the nice big screen, and I keep the brightness fairly high, I'm personally pleased with the battery life.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] nxtwrld:
I also have no comparison. I have been using the iPad, but due to its size, it was just "out off dock/back to dock", so it never really spent a full day on battery. Overall I am pretty impressed with the battery life on Flyer - a very pleasant surprise
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] monkeytown:
hey guys,

yesterday i received my flyer :D (leather bag AND stylus included)

i was so excited to hold it in my hands and WOW, thats some heavy metal, in the true sense of the word. after some time of holding the tab in one hand, i was kinda tired and had to put it down.....

htc sense is awesome, on the one hand really functional and on the other hand i love all the animation overkill (weather, spinning homescreens, etc.) and you will notice NO lag at all, everything goes fluent.

scribbling is like the biggest fun ever. at first i thought having to take a screenshot all the time MUST be annoying but it definitely NOT is. for now, i made some freehand paintings (attempts tbh), painted over some gallery images and over some browser screenshots. hella fun :)

unfortunately i got no internet flat, which makes wlan the only possible to surf the web. the browser is very neat and fast and pinch-to-zoom goes, again, very fluent with no delay.

i think that was all for now :)

my girl likes the flyer too, can´t get her off of fruit ninja :rolleyes:

i´m still not 100% convinced and i might return it.......sure, scribbling is fun, surfing the web on a bigger (than smartphone) screen is fun and everything else is also fun BUT i still can´t see the TRUE usage of a tablet for a 'regular' guy like me, i wouldn´t call it unnecessary, but in my case it KINDA is... :(

that´s all folks,

thx for reading
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] blake13:
Yeah my understanding is that this can't play 720p/1080p high profile - but other than that this is a step closer to "perfect".
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] killerskincanoe:
Really? This can't play 720p video? My phone can... Why can't this?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Elim:
It can, it can.

And don't be stupid, the dual cores are NOT faster then the Flyer until now. They are slower and you have not to be a nerd, to understand that dual core means not a dual clock speed. Therfore the 1,5 mhz from the Flyer can and is faster then a 1 mhz dual core.

You don't belief me? Check it self in your computer store.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Farsquidge:
.

Yup, it's not rocket science....

Just like the (spits on the ground) iPads family. If you have to develop an app that has to conform to a device family, then you develop that app to the base minimum requirement ( Honeycomb is backwards comp) and if you REALLY want to use the dual core capabilities of Tegra2, you will charge a cost for your extra work! Tell me here, what percentage of users pays extra for an app?

Jumping onto advanced HW at this time is not the best idea for a user, great for a provider if they help with app production, apps are limited and by the time they are, better devices will be coming out.

The Flyer is at a peak at this moment in time, able to take the best of the old, and ready for the new.

WHO ELSE HAS A PEN! (My photo looks great with a new hairdo!) :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] twisticles:
Well tonight I finally got some decent alone time with my flyer.

I wanted to pull some content from my NAS, so I found ES File Manager, browsed to the NAS and copied my stuff across no problem. No sync software required...makes a nice change from my last fruity tablet.

So I got to playing with my media at which point I realised how powerful the HTC Music player is. In landscape in the left pane you initially get the local library...but clicking pulls up other sources, such as network shares including my NAS. Even better, in the right pane you can select your output source. I have a WD Live and a Samsung Smart TV, both of which take feed from the Flyer. Its insane to use this tiny device to pull from the network and push on to another device, with the Flyer controlling it all.

I'm impressed!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cj31016:
I have the Evo View and I'm now waiting for someone to buy my iPad 2. Like others have said in this thread, this tablet blows the competitors away. I had the first iPad, iPad2, Xoom, and Nook Color. I currently still have the Nook and the iPad2 since they're in the process of being sold, and I've done side by side speed tests. The View/Flyer beats the iPad quite often. The screen is extremely vivid, and I just can't say how impressed I am by this tablet. I love how portable it is as well. I felt like a goofball whipping out my iPad to pass time while eating some lunch at a small eatery, but with the View, it's just easier, more discrete, and just more comfortable to take with me to different places.

Again, just like the others, give this tablet a shot. It's a great piece of hardware, and HTC has done an excellent job in creating it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
Keep you're iPad, its great for magazines and stuff... if you haven't got the Zinio app, I highly recommend it. Also see the recent Wacom Bamboo app for note taking...

Outside of that, yes, the Flyer is extremely portable, discreet and better suited for the boardroom in my opinion.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lovethyEVO:
I'm constantly finding things I love about my view. The music app in landscape is awesome. The camera is surprisingly well when the lighting is just right. Everything flows better compared to my sons ipad2. The scribe even steals my son from his ipad games (he has autism). The browser is amazing and it does what it needs to very well.

I can't report on much else since I have been trying to get unsigned images to flash to the device (like recovery) but I don't regret my purchase.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cj31016:
I'd keep it if my wife would let me, lol. She said I can keep one, and I think I'm rolling with the View.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lonrac:
Flyer enchants to me, is exactly what andava looking for as soon as portability, hardware and benefits. I must recognize that at least in Spain this not being very good in sales.

This gadget I like their forms, their screen (protective mate), and the cover of pielframa enchants to me.

I play order and chaos perfect, excellent Skype experience and perfect book and comics readers.

Web surfing is great, like checks mails or twitter, facebook, etc...

The problem is the price and here in Spain this gadget is not going to prevail. They have not arrived still at the telephone companies to lower prices under permanence, and perhaps she is that the reason for which the Flyer does not appear with the other tablets

Salu2
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] falconeight:
I love my flyer to death
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bkerk25:
I have owned the xoom, Asus transformer, galaxy tab 10.1. Never even thought about a seven inch tab until it was offered in a trade, tried it, love it, not looking back. Plus the flyer is much better in terms of media playbavk than tegra 2 devices, only thing I can't play is 1080 mkv.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ElAguila:
Just my 2 cents worth on it. I think some of the early tablet critics kept saying it is smaller than the ipad. so manufacturers decided they needed to keep up with the Joneses (read as apple). So they decided to make the 10.1 inch screen tablets. I believe the 7 inch screen is a perfect form factor for tablets. The size makes it very portable and easily carried. But it is still large enough to browse the web, watch movies, play games, and read e-books. I have found that in the 7 inch category, the flyer had one of the best looking displays and I personally found it to be very responsive. I think that the larger tablets are too close to being slates or laptops. I guess it depends on each persons idea of what a tablet should be. I think the flyer is a wonderful device with the potential to be even more than it is.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] blue blue man:
Old thread. But I would like to confirm the positive things that people mentioned about the Flyer. Recently, price of the Flyer was slashed in the UK. Hopefully, it will be the same in other euro countries (and the US too). It will make more people to consider to purchase the Flyer. Therefore, more motivation for developers to write pen-supported apps.

So about the Flyer:

The speed is fast (thanks to the fast CPU and 1 GB RAM). 7inch is big enough but still portable (I see no point of having 10 inch device as my primary tablet). Amazing n-trig pen differentiate it from all available tablets in the market (not taking into account Thinkpad tablet which isn't shipped yet and Windows tablets), screen is so bright that it sometimes hurts my eyes (I usually set the brightness at 25%). Battery is about 7 hours with wifi on. Design is ok. AND I just found out that you can play some Tegra2 games on rooted non-T2 devices, which is a plus for people into games. The things I do not like are the weight and thickness, lack of USB host support. Not big disadvantages though.

Th eFlyer is my 2nd Android tablet. I owned Archos 7 IT (7in, Froyo). It's ok beside low RAM (256 MB). I played with my friend's iPad. Screen is so beautiful but it's pain in the ass if you need to transfer something into it. And basically all Android 10in tablets seem bulky to me. Galaxy tab is the 2nd option if you like 7in form factor w/o pen digitizer and prefer to spend less quid. But I got a good deal for my Flyer, nothing to regret, and here I am on the XDA’s Flyer forum.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dsf3g:
I bought the Flyer and sold my rooted Nook Color. From owning the Nook, I knew that the 7" form factor was the one that best met my needs. From running my Nook Color at 1.2 GHZ, I knew that the 1.5 GHZ processor in the flyer would be more than adequate.

I'd like to get a Samsung GTab 10.1, not to replace but to supplement the Flyer. Around the house, a 10" tablet would make a great web-surfing, eMagazine reading tool. On the road, nothing beats the portability of the 7" form factor. Not sure when that will happen, though. My wife still doesn't realize that I sold the Nook and bought a different tablet. As far as she's concerned I'm still lounging around the house glued to my Nook. LOL! Apparently the different colored case and silver pen didn't tip her off. Heck, I've even snapped photos with the Flyer and showed them to her. She was surprised that I could do that, but hasn't yet realized that the reason I can write on my tablet and take photos with it is because it's not the same tablet. DOUBLE LOL!

Oh, man, I'm so dead when she figures it out!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vipfreak:
I have an asus transformer and while I like it very much it's a bit big for me. It's too unique to get rid of. It has single handedly kicked my thinkpad x201 table up and down the house. The problem is out side home use it's just too huge. I've caved and got a (non-activated) htc view (i hope), I love the 7" form factor. I had a Archos 7.o and it was great til you needed to do something on it. I'm looking forward to using the view, I "rented" a flyer from BB a while ago and it was pretty good. Also, looking forward to doing a lot of note taking and drawing.