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[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] iamelton:
im on B136 and z4root rooted my X5 without any problem..
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] ryronz:
Other option is superoneclick root and that worked for me on B137 as well.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] knevski:
For which ROM? I have "U8800 V100R001C00B137CUSTC44D001 (Mongolia Unitel)" but z4root and SuperOneClick won't root this phone. With B136 firmwares z4root worked fine.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] cirnocirno:
Easiest way to root !

http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-and-then-some-for-the-huawei-u8800-ideos-x5/

This should work with almost all ROM's out.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] ryronz:
hey what version of SuperOne Click? I am using Mongolia Unitel (B137, Android 2.2.2), I'm using

SuperOneClick V1.9, and it works perfectly. Grab the latest version then let me know.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] knevski:
SuperOneClick 1.9.5.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] ryronz:
Oh see, works perfectly for me.

EDIT: Silly question, but is USB debugging on? I know Z4root won't work because of the changes in 2.2.2, but SuperOneClick should work as long as USB debugging is on, ADB is there aswell as correct drivers.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] knevski:
USB debugging was on, but the drivers we're not correctly installed. Now it works.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] ryronz:
Good to hear!
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] typci:
I used Superboot root, and it rooted fine. Only problem is that the boot image doesn't have overclock in it. So when you switch boot.img to Genokolar's Overclock kernal, you still have root, but not total root.

Not sure that makes any sense, so here's an example: superuser works fine and apps get root, however if you go into terminal emulator and type "free", you get an access denied. Since my phone overclocks to 1.8GHz beautifully, I like to have overclock access in case I want it.

Does SuperOneClick or Z4root work with genokolar's roms? I'm considering making the jump to his ROM-B136+B160 V7, since it is Android 2.2.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] simplistian:
Is busybox installed? Check if /system/xbin/busybox exist, if it does, try 'busybox free' or even '/system/xbin/busybox free' in terminal.

Genokola's ROM comes rooted, no need for z4root things.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] 4rktos:
just rooted my Ideos X5 with z4root (B136 SP02 - OTA update)

Everything seems to be working fine (replaced camera libs and deleted bloatware)

I noticed that busybox ins't installed however; is this something I should be worried about ? (Shoudl I try root it again ?)
[HTC Sensation] frenchie746:
I did a quick search for this but didn't find anything.

Is anyone else having issues with the battery stats after recharging. It seems that my phone never reaches full after recharging but a quick reboot will then show it at full.

Sorry in advance if something like this has already been posted.
[HTC Sensation] Xlythe:
Note: I don't own a Sensation

Try turning the phone off and letting it charge. Android has it's own power management, but with the phone off it should rely on the hardware fail-safes. When the phone fully charges, reboot it and Android should update the max voltage. You should see the correct battery percentages now.

I could be wrong, but it's worth a shot. You shouldn't have to do this frequently (Or ideally, at all).
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Hey guys, I just got the droid incredible 2 and I first had the LG revolution but the 4g and the screen size made the battery drop down quick. I played with it for 20 minutes after it being fully charged, changing settings, and the battery went way down to about 80%. So I exchanged it for the HTC Incredible 2. They told me the batter was way better.

I went to the Verizon store to tell them the batter dowesn't last as long as expected. My Iphone 4 would be on all day, texting, pandora, email and web browsing and I still came home from work with battery left. My droid gets used from 7am to 1pm and its pretty much dead by then. They made me change the background data off, sync only email and weather, and download juice defender.

The batter still dies by 12:30pm after charging all night.

I have read all over people are getting excellent battery usage but I don't really know what to do to get the same. It is not temp rooted. Any ideas? Also, at work, in the building the data coverage is not so good so I usually do nothing but text on it and it still dies by 1pm.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SHAKEJONES:
I can't really say how well mine would do on the standard battery because I bought the extended battery immediately after getting the phone. I've been unplugged almost 15 hours and have 38% battery and I have sent/recieved 40-50 txts, 20 mins phone, browsed internet for 30-45 mins, played games around 30 mins, and listened to pandora for around 45 mins.

I would recommend the extended battery, it's $50 at verizon and I haven't even come close to killing it in a day.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Does the extended battery make the phone bigger? I'm thinking it would be thicker on the back. Would it have any drawbacks as to cases and stuff like that?

I'm not sure why mine is so bad, prolly because I am in a secure building and signal doesn't get through constantly. I'm surprised, I thought my iphone had bad battery.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
the extended battery does have a thicker back. and yes, there are currently no cases for it, so there would be an issue there if having a case is very important.

as to your current battery, if your in a biulding with bad signal, that will most defintiely affect your battery life as your phone will have to use more battery to try to find a good signal. additionally though, the phone battery does seem to improve after about a week of charge/discharge cycles. not sure why this is, but i have seen it on my phone and seen many other report the same.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] SHAKEJONES:
The battery sticks out a little more than 1/8th of an inch I would say. However, IMHO it protects the camera lens and flash lens from getting broken and I never really like using a case anyways.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] truelefty:
I have amazing battery i charge it to 100 percent unplugged after then go to school texting 100-200 average everyday internet music by the time i get 3:00 i still have 80-70% and i'm 13 so imagine how much i use it and it still stays at that percentage
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TheAtheistReverend:
Having a phone in a building (or anywhere) the signal is weak is a drain on your battery. If your iPhone was with AT&T the signal may have been stronger where you work than with Verizon and may have therefore contributed to better battery life.

Also, if you didn't FULLY charge your DInc2 and FULLY discharge it right when you got it, you should really do a factory reset and immediately do the following:

Charge the phone for at least 8hrs with the power off, unplug for a few minutes, plug it back in. The light should only remain red for 10-20 seconds before turning green, otherwise this unplug-plug part should be repeated a few more times always letting it remain on "green" for an hour before unplugging an plugging back in.

THEN power up and use the phone until it shuts itself off because the battery is drained. Let it sit for a few minutes, and turn it on again. It should sut itself off again pretty quick. Let it sit, turn on again. Do this until it wont power up at all after sitting untouched for a few minutes and your battery is then fully discharged.

Now you can plug it in and start the charge part of the cycle as lined out earlier. Once the light turns green 10-20 sec after plugging it in again you have completed one "cycle".

This may sound excessive, but I'm kind of a nut about this kind of thing.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
I didn't do anything special when I got my I2, am a realtively heavy user, and have an all day battery life. I'm pretty careless with my features being left on.

If you can't get it to last all day, either you are a much heavier user than I am or you do, in fact, either have a battery problem, or a battery calibration problem. You shouldn't need to calibrate the battery algorithms, but I guess it doesn't hurt to try.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user. I normally text while I am at work and check facebook a few times. I also listen to pandora most times. I work for Vanguard and most people here have Verizon I believe. I was told when I switched from AT&T that signal should not be a problem where I am at. My Iphone 4 would get used much more and it too would have signal problems as well until I turned 3g off but it would last way longer than the droid.

I guess I can try the factory reset and full charge cycle this weekend but I'm not sure what Verizon can do for me either so it may just stay like this :(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
this is bump charging no? (well the part about how to charge it). i spoke to am htc rep that said that bump charging will significantly decrease the lifespan of your battery life and therefore is highly not recommended.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] drtchocky:
I just got mine on Sunday, but even yesterday I was texting and surfing a fair amount yesterday and went to bed with the phone at 61%...

I am sort of amazed, I think Verizon has taken the underclocking thing and put it to work on the official release... at one point I turned off the screen for what amounted to an hour and when i turned it back on it was still the same battery level.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
if your comparing battery life on the dinc2 with 3G on versus the iphone with 3G off there will also be a pretty big difference. if your tuirn off 3G on your dinc2, i would imagine battery life will be similar or better than your iphone had with 3G off also.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
No I was comparing the Inc 2 to the Iphone with 3G on. My iphone would also last longer if I turned 3g off and just used Edge or whatever it is called. I don't think I can do this with the droid until it is rooted or download an app to do this.

I turned off juice defender and we will see how it goes today. I don't really like apps running in the background and it was turning off data eacht ime the screen locked.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] timmay2t:
I think the biggest difference is the verizon signal. The battery on this phone is amazing for an android device. While it is still nowhere near iphone 4 status as far as battery, it shouldn't drain like that. Have them either swap you a battery or the phone itself.

I'm a relatively heavy user. Especially with voice calls and I can go a day and a half easy.

But I also run launched pro with only a couple of widgets. To me sense is a battery hog.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
What would I do to go about swapping out the battery or the phone itself? Should I go back to the same verizon store? Or call them on the support line and try to get a battery or new phone that way? I have no clue why it is draining like that either, the signal can't be that bad, I literally had the same signal with AT&T in these buildings.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
Well, lets be honest, one of the things Apple really puts a lot of time and effort into in their development is long battery life. It wouldn't surprise me to see the iphone outlasting most Android devices.

In any case...

While I don't need to, I do charge my phone while at the office. If you have a desk job then I don't see how this would be problematic. My work day usage includes 2 hours of bluetooth streaming (in my car to the stereo), media playback (music/podcast), and mapping with gps and 3g data (this drains my battery pretty quickly, but that's relative...it's about 15% per hour). Outside of that, my battery drain is quite low.

I only started charging at the office because I like to keep my battery as full as possible in case of extended emergency that requires being away from a charging source. It's that whole boy scout be prepared mentality I have. Besides, if you have the opportunity to charge, why not? It seems to charge pretty quick anyway.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
I can charge at the office, but normally I forget the cord at home. Not a problem to buy another one but still. I was just concerned because I hear people getting 15 some hours on one charge and as of right now, my battery is below 50% since I just got back from lunch.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
take it back to the store, and if that doesn't work then call. but the store would probably be a better bet as they can give you a new phone or new battery there whereas the phone support, you'd have to wait for the shipment.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Seems as if they were not able to help in store the first time. Rather than have someone check it out, they had someone come over and tell me I should turn off all the sync and data features. So I did do that, but then why did I get a smartphone?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
It's possible you have an app that is not allowing the device to sleep. If it can't sleep, it will drain the battery much faster. You might get 8 to 12 hours awake yet idle.

Are you using many third party apps? If so, have you considered going through them, removing them one at a time, until you find the battery doesn't drain so fast anymore?

If you go to About phone in settings, then Battery, the last item will show awake time. This should be much lower than your Up time.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
The awake time is only 4 minutes lower than the up time. I have gone through my apps and force stopped all the ones that I can stop from running, but they keep coming up after I exit the settings. It is weird. Is there any update i need to install? I have android version 2.2.1.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
If your awake time is only 4 minutes lower than your up time, then your device is apparently not sleeping. More than likely you'll have to remove your third party apps, not just kill them, to track down which one is causing it. If you know how to check what permissions apps request, target apps using permission "prevent phone from sleeping" under "system tools". Not all apps that use this are bad, but some misuse this.

To give you an idea of my usage as a heavy user, my awake time is about 4 days under my week of up time.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
How do I check the permissions do I need to be temp rooted for this? Or just go into services and try clicking on the various ones?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
Before going down this road, you might try looking into apps that monitor battery usage as there are apps that can help you find poorly behaving apps a bit easier than doing this. I am fairly certain, based on what you've posted at this point, that there is definitely an app behaving poorly and giving you the bad battery experience.

Anyway, here's how to check what permissions apps request for apps that are already installed. This may look familiar as you see these when you are installing apps as well.

Settings ->

Applications ->

Manage applications ->

Downloaded (should be first tab, selected already) ->

Tap application, then scroll down and look for an orange "System tools". If it's not there, it definitely does not request this permission. If it is there, look for "prevent phone from sleeping".
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
After 9.5 hours I'm at 45%...been surfing web all day and playing angry birds...my up time is 2 hours
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Actually, the Blockbuster, maps, facebook, pandora, and verizon apps all have system tools and say "Prevent phone from sleeping." I force stop all the apps I don't want on and they still come back after I exit the menu. Even juice defender prevents the phone from sleeping. I had app killer and that also did not do anythig because all the apps would still show up after being killed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Pm me a list of your apps...ill look into it...I had 2.5 hours up time and battery went 12 hours today
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Thanks I appreciate it. I sent you the PM. My inbox shows 0 sent messages lol but I know I sent it.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
As I mentioned, not all apps use this feature improperly, but some do. The bundled apps generally are okay so the verizon apps and blockbuster can probably be ignored. I have facebook and it doesn't seem to bother my battery life. This is the reason I recommended looking into an app that monitors battery usage.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
I'll have to look for a battery app and see what is draining it so much. I don't really have a lot of apps only a few I downloaded since I got the phone. And I only really use about 3-4 of them once a while. Hopefully I can figure this out or it will suck having to charge this thing twice a day.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
you dont really need a battery app to see whats using all the battery. just go into settings-->about phone-->battery-->battery use
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] :
Just though I would add...if you are using anti virus or an auto task killer, get rid of them. They may be killing your battery.

You can also try toggling airplane mode on then off, if a signal issue is causing drain.

I don't have an inc 2 but am considering it and I am reading these threads.

Sent from my fascinate
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
I uninstalled the task killer and I'm no longer using juice defender. So far the signal is a little better in my cube area it seems. Battery still drains though pretty quickly. I'll post back around lunch with its status and see how it went.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TheAtheistReverend:
Debatable...

Found a really well written post in the Inc section called Your battery gauge is lying to you

I would call this a must read for all smartphone users!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
sorry but how is it debatable? the reason the battery never reaches 100 is because of some sort of safeguards htc put in to protect the battery. bump charging essentially overrides those safeguards, which to me logically means it won't be good. no?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] TheAtheistReverend:
All I mean by "debatable" is there are differing viewpoints. It (battery charging methods) is a subject heavily debated in these forums. I am not offering an opinion myself, just saying some do.

According to the post I linked to earlier, the battery does reach 100% even if for a brief period.

EDIT: The "benefits" would depend on One's goal as outlined in that post (sorry, I can't just quote. The post by byrong is worth reading all the way through)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
okay.. my main point is just that bump charging, while it does get the battery to full capacity, also shortens the full lifespan of the battery, which is why htc put in the safeguards that results in what we have today. but it is strange because this doesn't seem to be as common an issue in other phones like samsung or moto. maybe they don't care about those effects.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
I'm not planning on bump charging it anyway. Hoepfully when and if it is rooted or there is custom rom, I can get rid of all the verizon and bloat apps that I never use.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Under battery use what is eating the battery? Should be high % of display then everything else below like 10%
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
While lithium ion batteries don't have memory effects, you can greatly reduce the life of the battery through abuse. Charging it too much or draining it too much is abusive.

To maximize battery life in LiIon batteries, you should try to keep it as well charged as possible as much as possible. Long charge and discharge cycles causes acceleration of the reaction that takes place while charging and discharging. Additionally, quick charges and discharges generate heat, which is another contributing factor to accelerating the reaction and reducing the life of the battery.

Some shelf life tests have shown that there is a sweet spot between 60% and 80% for battery longevity. You can probably derive from this that this charge range in usage most likely will show greatest life of the battery. It's also been show that keeping the battery charge level low for extended periods of time can reduce the life of the battery.

Now, for bump charging, you are not doing this to fix a problem with the battery, but rather a problem with battery charge indication calibration. If you do this once, and pay attention to charge levels (allow it to discharge beyond what the phone indicates as "safe" for the battery can damage the battery so don't try to drain it beyond this point) you can probably do so without significant reduction in life of the battery. If you do choose to perform this, make sure you are paying attention to the process all the way through so that you can get the battery recharged quickly.

Will it reduce the life of your battery or damage it? Well, you are putting faith in your device to make sure it doesn't discharge too much. As long as everything works properly, you will avoid damaging the battery, and the reduction in life will be negligible.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Display is about 67% with brightness set to the level near the "o" next to "Auto Brightness. Other than that its android system 7% varying and Android OS around 6-8%

I normally force shut all apps I no longer use but that doesn't help much. Could be just signal quality is bad and causes the phone to use more battery looking for signal. But for the most part, there could be stuff running in the back that may cause it to not sleep or use the battery properly. I pretty much have good signal everywhere I go, except some buildings at work which are pretty insulated. But my building showed good signal and the phone didn't go into yellow today until 3pm and I had it 100% charged at 7am.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
You sound like you have a similar bug that I had when I had the Eris....try getting handcent sms and disabling stock sms notifications
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
Does the stock sms disable all notifications? How will I know there is a text then?

Anything else I could try besides the jump charge message?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
well if you use handcent, then you would want to disable the stock sms notifs bc handcent will have its own notifs for sms/mms messages.

also, you shouldn't force close too many apps on your own. the system will take care of that on its own, closing apps that are no longer in use - thats one of the problems with task killers - they close apps that shouldn't be force closed, and thus use more power to reopen again and again. just let the system take care of closing apps that are no longer in use.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
If you Google Droid Eris 100% wake time you will see the bug I'm talking about...dye to the fact you are the only one with it happening. I would try to get a new phone.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] selayan:
I will look up that topic. I'm not sure about how to go about replacing the phone. I didn't get the warranty and Verizon store is giving me the run around with saying my apps are killing batter and my syncs and weather are also. Whats the point of having these then? I bought the phone to have all these features. I don't care about facebook cuz I have the app, but anything else I like the notifications.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Show them the battery use page...where it proves nothing is eating the battery
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
i say keep calling support until you get someone who will do things correctly. this is why i will always go with amazon from here on out. i had a battery issue, called support, 5 minutes later i had a replacement unit on the way.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
Verizon support and sales is pretty much far from stellar. It's too bad that, in my situation, they provide me the best deal. Otherwise I'd go with Amazon or Newegg.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bik2101:
i guess you get some sort of corporate discount or something?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nimdae:
Something like that.