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[Desire General] amitabhishek:
Only if they removed junk like Plurk, Friend Feed, Teeter etc they could have done whatever they wanted. Oh & BTW! guys like AdamG have proved that bare-bone perfectly working Gingerbread shouldn't exceed 45 MB!
[Desire General] aaa:
What HTC actualy meant is "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"
[Desire General] 08r3308:
Aaa i agree this is a low kick in guts from htc. It can be done devs proved it
[Desire General] Lothaen:
There's a really simple video tutorial which tries to make this sort of stuff REALLY simple :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

They'll never release a gingerbread with no sense as Sense is what makes HTC phones. If they didn't it'd be another Nexus one. Another thing that confuses me as to why people buy a HTC phone (like the desire) then put AOSP on it... :p

Apparently the only diff is the screen res.
[Desire General] GDawes:
Ouch so I have to live with all the existing bugs. A phone less than a year old should get updates. Us consumers need protection.

I don't care for gingerbread but would like bugs fixed eg WiFi flakey connection always obtaining address.

Next phone iPhone, sorry but even a model a few years old gets updates. I expect similar from HTC. Thought they stood out from the majority of Taiwanese corporates and cared for customers. Was wrong.

Is Facebook the correct way to notify customers and why only UK HTC? Is it official?.

Dissapointing.
[Desire General] amitabhishek:
Because after a period of time Sense UI becomes slow, boring & cluttered. You crave for speed & performance over eye candy.
[Desire General] radu_wizu:
Mark 10 for announcing after 4 months the Desire can not support Gingerbread.
[Desire General] aaa:
I know:

1. It is not that hard to root and flash custom ROMs.

2. I owe big time to all the devs here in this forum for giving me the possibilies of having 2.3 ROMs (MIUIs, Senses, AOSPs).

3. HTC marketing is greedy not to give Desire the GB Sense update because they are trying to get us buying the new stuffs. It ain't happening tho'!

4. The 2.3 ROMs here make HTC engineers look stupid.

BTW.

I originally can not wait until the 3G version of ASUS Transformer to be available in the market and ordered a Flyer but I have canceled my order last night because I am afraid they will repeat the same thing with the Android 3.0 update which is currently promised to come in the future.

I do not trust HTC anymore.
[Desire General] renown:
I can't belive that this news thought it is true ....

The Leaked RUU runs really well on my Desire

If there is no Sense 2.1 I don't care :(

I just want to have an official update on my device with the original sense.
[Desire General] ZigmaDK:
If HTC decides to drop all support of the HTC Desire, then I hope they will release all source code for it and also all drivers so the XDA devs can develop even better roms :)

With the opened bootloaders I hope there is a real chance this might also happen :P
[Desire General] joe_998:
I've had a Sensation on per-order for a couple of weeks which I've now just cancelled. Was already thinking about cancelling and going for a Samsung GS II, thanks for making my mind up for me HTC.
[Desire General] 08r3308:
they wont release unlocked bootloaders , if they wanted it would be released by now .

they really made my mind up now with this

goodbye htc

Samsung nexus here i come
[Desire General] Lothaen:
They've announced stuff on Facebook before - so why not - it's a good way of getting the word out as a hell of a lot of people use Facebook... more than the HTC.com website I bet.

Yep - it worked well on mine too :(

I'm not exactly convinced that any manufacturer will not do the same thing eventually - I find it amusing how everyone is going "RIGHT I AM OFF TO SAMSUNG BYE BYE HTC!" - the urge is to go to the next best thing, but as mentioned - what's to say samsung won't do the same thing in a years time with all their handsets when they fall out of favour with Google again... and all phones will eventually be dropped sooner or later and picked up by dev's here... I get more of the feeling that samsung will probably just push out stock updates in the end just to keep people sweet and then let dev's actually fix issues in custom roms - I've said before - I know a fair few people with the galaxy S and only one still has the stock image, all others have rooted and booted off to AOSP and MIUI Roms... mostly because of all the bugs that samsung pushed out to it in the first place, like slowness/GPS fixes/lag fixes/UI etc.

I guess at least HTC tried to make sure everything was working as well as they can before they push out images?

Oh well... the custom rom scene here is great, and I'm not going to be jumping ship - mostly because I can't afford a new phone and also because my phone is working fine for what I need it to do :)
[Desire General] Rubik.Orange:
w...what???

a little bit disappointed...... HTC....

many people say sammy is better than htc even software part.. but i have a galaxy neo... it is really ****... both hardware and software...
[Desire General] zamolxees:
I don't really care for Sense. There are a few things I like, but most of it is just eating up RAM and speed from where I stand. But I was eager to upgrade to GB, and was waiting to do so soon, OTA. I'm very disappointed by them breaking their promise. It's very peculiar how they "just" realised they can't after months of promising GB. I guess I'll have to go root mine and find a good stable rom where everything works.

I wonder why they don't do an update to decrypt or unlock the bootloader and make things easier for rooting. They also promised to do so :|
[Desire General] 08r3308:
well so far there is not one bootloader that they unlocked and now they wont give us gingerbread , i reallly believe htc now.

well at least Samsung comes with latest software now and there is that agreement that they need to update.
[Desire General] Zane:
Hello to everyone.

Maby there is a possibility to write a petition to HTC with signatures like this > ipetitions

lets collect signatures and they have to do something with gingerbread.

So english native speakers write something and let the party beginns.
[Desire General] pajeronda:
Is very incredible!!
[Desire General] mtandrup:
Wow.

I have never seen a bigger F U from a company to it's customers.

I will never buy or recommend any HTC phone ever again.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I don't remember reading they said they'd unlock all previous bootloaders - but the new devices...

and probably current.

I think we need to face the fact that the HTC Desire is _not_ current.
[Desire General] yalouf:
The wildfire s has GB out of the box.And its MDPI device so less memory needed for images and icons. The casual htc desire user needs an OTA update which means they don't need to backup their user data. So OTA+SENSE 2.0+GB is too much to handle on such a low space rom.

The desire has very low rom space and all custom rom we see here don't havr sense bloatware or they have ext partition on sd card...

Well, i must say desire users(i mean you guys on xda forums) should have expected it.

When you see all the comments on android market about "that app doesn't support app2sd it's crap". I've never heard a samsung or motorola user complaining about low rom space.

Nokia n97 failed mostly because of low space rom. The phone had 32gb internal memory but you kept getting low space memory warnings cause you had like 30mb of free space...

App2sd shouldn't exist today, just give us 1gb+ of rom and you're set.

Many ppl critize the fact apple doesn't have sd slot but you can install as many apps as your internal memory can take.

You can't have sense + low internal memory, that's the difference between the nexus and the desire.

My 250€ motorola defy has 1gb+ of internal memory.

However, you expected it but you already use custom 2.3 roms. And many ppl i know who own the desire are happy with sense + froyo, and they'd rather have sense with all the bloatware than plain gingerbread.

I just wonder now why it took so long for htc to figure it out...
[Desire General] coolexe:
Hi,

just working on it

Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread with HTC Sense 2.1 *odex file system*...also nand fit...after first boot data partition has 120MB for apps...

hope HTC learn something from XDA
[Desire General] k3lcior:
@coolexe

Awesome, im grabbing it! :D
[Desire General] nickislauw:
isnt is already out?? #sagaS #visionS #aceS ?
[Desire General] coolexe:
#sagaS #visionS #aceS all r Deodex rom...but i'm talking about odex rom...:D
[Desire General] dimitris74:
good luck coolexe.

when you manage to do that post it at htc facebook page and make them look like complete idiots and liars.
[Desire General] owziee:
You're right, it's not a current device anymore... But it was a very expensive phone a year ago when it was released, it was their flagship! At least one could expect more updates than this, and I could forgive them a little if they at least could push out a 2.2 rom with security fixes.

The Desire have sold in millions, it still stacks up pretty good against current devices, this is exactly how SE screwed their customers back in the P990 days. And Sony Ericsson suffered for years (dropped sales) after that. HTC will notice a decrease in sales from now, I'm pretty sure they've pissed off enough people, I've zero trust in this company from now, they should't have

promised

us an update @ the end of june and then simply don't deliver what they did promised....
[Desire General] ralfred:
I'm right with you.

May be Desire is not design for GB but HTC must says it since the beginning and not yesterday.

If HTC says to me "Sorry Desire is not be able to run GB" three month ago, I was Ok to that so if I need GB I buy a Sensation or other but HTC did'nt says that.
[Desire General] Kameo:
Just cancelled and switched my Sensation order for an SGS2.

I don't really care about what they say, I'm fine with the latest Insertcoin GS 2.1; however what bothers me is that they give no sh!t about us, customers.

This, upsets me to no end, i mean, come on... they'd better tell us: fine, thanks for everything, but now can you please drop this useless and oudated crap and buy this new, flashy and awesome locked bootloader sensation...

I really wanted to stick to that brand, but i've just changed my mind... just like them.
[Desire General] smhtc:
I fully agree. :mad:
[Desire General] Lothaen:
if its the case where the OTA doesn't work - go back to releasing an RUU...

I didn't realise how many companies were still using 'connect to your PC to get a new update' when you go into OTA and check for software updates till I was asked to update a few other friends/family phones on my laptop.

then people can have a bit of a choice to wipe and start a fresh with gingerbread + sense and backup/restore settings etc. with htc sync

oh well
[Desire General] smhtc:
Certainly not. They should put it on their sites, worldwide and country-wise sites of the Desire. What they did is lame. Are we even going to hear anything (of course, positive) from htc on Desire ever again?
[Desire General] gie62001:
coolexe, so you're trying to fit gingerbread on Nand as well? wow, thats so cool :) just was wondering if it would also have sense 3.0 stuff like unlock screen ring, etc? and whats the difference between odexed and deodexed file system? btw ive been using yours or robocik Roms for long now and you guys are legends, and got same roms for 4 of my friends as they were so jelous of me having HD rom :)
[Desire General] mesaka:
This was the impetus for me to root / install a new rom (RCMix S v2.0 Evolutionary Sense). I have to say that the instructions to root on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 were fantastic. I have a whole new phone and with gingerbread and sense...fab!
[Desire General] stewart30:
just found this

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/14/gingerbread-shows-up-on-se-xperia-x10-brings-new-features-video/
[Desire General] proxuser:
software basically is everything possible. xda-devs has showed that.

htc should give 2 choice to customers, sense with froyo or update to aosp gingerbread with new hboot. that was the solution.

or they should come here and ask our developers "adamg, coolexe, baadnewz and robocik how it is possible ?" :)
[Desire General] gocegoce:
http://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/225857300777092

wooohoooooo :D
[Desire General] nickislauw:
yesssssssssssss they looked at our angry comments and now they will release it!!!!!!!!!
[Desire General] chichoko:
According to HTC UK... the update is indeed coming... Power to us :) well done lads <3
[Desire General] radu_wizu:
Guess they didn't like at those negative posts. It may have just been a marketing strategy aimed at rallying users to cheer the date of the new update, or just a new excuse for another 3 month delay .
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Where they find the space for gingerbread and sense now??? In the people comments?
[Desire General] coolexe:
That's it...lol...
[Desire General] 08r3308:
yeah bet will be another 3mnths and then again sorry processor too slow ehehe

regardless no more htc they cant make their mind up

nexus s updates straight from google :)
[Desire General] Kameo:
So it seems that they changed their mind... again.

GB *might* be coming in the end... (HTC quietly changing our minds.)
[Desire General] 08r3308:
subcontract cm :)
[Desire General] Lothaen:
lol

nice one Htc - as said a minute ago - where did they find the space to put it?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
did HTC hire you then?
[Desire General] coolexe:
Hahaha...lol...hope so...
[Desire General] k9plums:
if I'd known it wouldn't be getting the update a few months ago when they said we would, I would have sold the phone and got a desire HD while mine still had a decent value. what a pita.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
go read the hundreds of posts flooding in saying you will get it now

http://t.co/2ZKWLiu
[Desire General] Lothaen:
bit of cash coming in is always good, for stuff you do anyway :)
[Desire General] afadzil21:
As much as I love my Desire, the SGS2 is just too awesome to not get right now. And it's unlocked so I really won't have to worry about updates. Sorry HTC, the Desire was.great, but with Gingerbread being out 6 months now and still no official update (just FB announcements), I have to look elsewhere for a sweet device.
[Desire General] x潮騒x:
And to all people who say root and custom roms are the solution to everything - please show me the devs that are able to write drivers e.g. for the camera.
[Desire General] Lord_Quack:
Ok, I'll take that on the chin and admit- I haven't seen a GB rom with camcorder working... BUT i would like to point out that camera IS working. Camcorder has progressed to being able to record footage, just appears stretched on the phone screen when playing back. Recording works and it plays back fine on a computer. I know its not ideal, but its a progression. To name the dev who i have seen heavily involved in making this, snq- He has done amazing work on this. I love root, it has opened up amazing possibilities with my desire. Its faster than it ever was. So what if I had to root, make and EXT partition and flash? It was simple, painless and i am proud to own a rooted desire.

Congratulations for those who are really excited about the official gb update. Im glad you are happy. Except that looking at it objectively, you will probably have a stripped down sense, stock gb and low memory capacity- whereas root users have had gb for months, and some, like me, have been rocking sense 2.1 and sense 3.0!

I will defend my decision for rooting, i was not scared of doing it, i accepted the challenge (not much of one) and now i am reaping the benefits.

Oooooh... I cant use camcorder on my phone... What a shame. (Sarcasm) besides, give the devs some time. Then we'll see if you can burn the people who root.

Rant over :D
[Desire General] frank17next:
Oh yeah

http://exclusive44.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-desire-will-get-android-23-after.html
[Desire General] bodjor:
¡Adios HTC!

That's why I decided to ditch my HTC Android (went to my wife) and go iPhone. Taking into account all differences, Apple is much more serious when it comes to updates.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
with the official gb update hopefully we'll get a nice working camera :p
[Desire General] gocegoce:
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150328348008084
[Desire General] KrewCial:
Wonder which apps would get cut?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Check out LeeDroid 3 - camera/camcorder working fine ;)
[Desire General] andQlimax:
htc in the 1 announcement said that their engineering wokrked hard to find a solution, but was not possible...

Now the solution is to remove some apps..wow they are genious :D

htc with this story has lost its credibility
[Desire General] 3f1f37:
+1

If you like me who runs all the available versions of custom ROMs, MIUI, SENSE & AOSP.

I mean the reason we are apart of this amazing community is because we realized the limitation of this awesome device and chose to take the plunge over time the Desire has become even more awesome.

When this contract expires I'm gona find it hard to part with my Desire.

Sent from a Reflex S Desire
[Desire General] ferus:
Even if I (eventually) get my GB update from HTC I decided not to support this company anymore.

I was burned badly once already (pre-ordered a very expensive HTC Touch Pro) and I neded up with a DIY device...

I don't know why I decided to make the same mistake again. I really believed that Desire will be treated differently (afterall it was HTC's flagship) and for a while it really looked promising...

And this whole mess with not getting/getting the update just got me convinced - never again.

The only problem is what other device to chose? HTC's build quality is very good but the lack of software support is frightening. Samsung isn't much better (from support point of view) and I'd rather not talk about SonyEriccson.

If I really wanted to root and flash I could do it (I was already forced with Touch Pro) but I would prefer a device that works without any serious intervention.

If my Desire died right now I honestly don't know what phone would I buy...

PS: I am very happy that the people still have some kind of power and they can speak up :-)
[Desire General] Lord_Quack:
Haha, true... The devs will be integrating it asap lol... Hang on... Its a conspiracy! HTC actually wait for the devs here to perfect the software that their technicians cant, and then they release the official updates! :O
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Actually is the opposite :p xda devs wait for the proper driver, kernel from htc
[Desire General] Lord_Quack:
Haha, I know, I was making a joke ;)
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
now the question is,

when it will be available?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Please try again later.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knipp21:
S I'm giving my Eris to my gf who has a 9.99 data plan..does she need to get the $30 plan? I've read allot of different answer just want some clarification
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
At this point, yes - all smartphones (i.e., Android, Blackberry, WebOS, iPhone, and WP7, if they have any of those) on Verizon require the $30 unlimited plan. There is a rumor that Verizon will introduce capped plans this summer and remove the unlimited option, but that is still just a rumor.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the kid escobar:
You must get the 30 dollar plan unfortunately
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neederishelp:
I thought you could use the phone without any data, but when you renew, they make you get the data package.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
You cannot activate a smartphone on Verizon without the unlimited data plan. Even if you have a contract already, once you try to activate the phone you will be required to add the data plan.

I suppose you could use the phone to dial 911...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] jps1974:
I couldn't figure out how to compile a module for stock kernel - I kept getting the following in dmesg:

<module>: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout

I sent a message to Samsung Open Source Release Center on Friday and received a very helpful response yesterday. Basically, c1_rev02_defconfig contains some debug options that are not set in the actual kernel. These are the options that should not be set in the config:

CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT
CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES
CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK
CONFIG_DEBUG_MUTEXES
CONFIG_PROFILING
CONFIG_PERF_EVENTS
CONFIG_PERF_COUNTERS
CONFIG_LATENCYTOP
CONFIG_FTRACE

You can use the attached script to modify all these values (the script was also supplied by Samsung, although it was syntactically incorrect and a couple of modifications were necessary to make it work). I have included a copy of the c1_rev02_defconfig with these modifications.

Using this config, I was finally able to compile modules that can actually be loaded on the device :rolleyes:

Kudos to Samsung for sending me this information.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
Nice info :) I guess that will help out the people who had issues with kernel modules on stock ROMs...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] sgstwo:
No, that is the stuff they should put on their server. Makes you wonder what else they haven't released. Every time they make modifications to the GPL open source code (eg. kernel) and release a new version, they must release the code, and the exact same files they used to build it.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] richyy74:
Thanks

That was the info I missed. I have successfully compiled cifs for kf1.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] hiperjp:
You know guys if there is a basic tutorial available online?.

Thank you!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] utp:
Hi, I am new to compile modules for android (new to compile kernel anyway)

thanks for your info and config, I am now able to compile modules.

I had a problem on the compiled modules tho, wonder can anyone please point me some direction?

when I insmod the ko, dmesg gives me:

xyz.ko : no symbol version for module_layout

Any hint?

more info, I am compiling like:

I am aiming on compiling to for stock ROM, uname -r > 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKDD-CL161513

- I read, and follow base on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1113191

- kernel source from: SHW-M250L kernel source from OSRC, https://opensource.samsung.com/

- .config file of this post, select my wanted modules using make menuconfig

- then make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=__MYPATH__/bin/arm-none-eabi- modules

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] alx5962:
Hi,

I'm using insecure kernel :

#uname -r
2.6.35.7-I9100XWKE2-CL187606

I cross compiled modules using your config file but each time I'm trying to insmod it, I have: failed (Exec format error)

and busybox insmod gives me a invalid module format error :mad:

I use the commands :

make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/toolchains/arm-2009q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi- menuconfig

make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/toolchains/arm-2009q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi- modules

So I don't really know where I'm wrong here :confused:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] utp:
can you do a dmesg here?

I "think" I am on a same boat as you are on the error tho.....
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] alx5962:
I didn't checked dmesg, shame on me !

so the error is :

joydev: no symbol version for module_layout

I used your config file, do I need to fix config each time I update with menuconfig ?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] utp:
:)

dmesg is good to read, we are both compiling the same module (joydev)

the config file is not from me, is from jps1974.

no I don't think you need to fix unless you uses the build_kernel.sh unmod, since it cp the defconfig everytime, still I face the same problem...