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[Acer Iconia A500] xManMythLegend:
Right, because "heavy" means "unable to lift" and not relative to the topic of tablets. Try harder next time.
[Acer Iconia A500] hazard99:
Very detailed.connectivity is why my Acer rules
[Acer Iconia A500] interqd:
LIKE YOUR REVIEW, very truthful...

i bought the acer because it came first in my country.... but then loving it... usb port is the biggest difference among 2 tablets in favour of iconia, where weight is the biggest difference in favour to the tab
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
I was contemplating on whether to buy Galaxy Tab or Iconia A500, and I chose Iconia A500 because of USB host mode port, plus the fact that I don't need any proprietary adapters or cables. Those kinds of things are surprisingly hard to come by here, and they're a lot more expensive to replace should they break.

As for the weight: well, everyone has their own taste. I personally don't see enough of a difference for it to make matter to me.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
I choose Acer because of non proprietary adapter and cables...

now

- galaxy tabs is really toooooo light... I feel like I was about to broke it just by holding it hahahah

I wanna buy it so deep... but after tested it... hu... no thanks, maybe the 8.9...
[Acer Iconia A500] silencer51:
I'm amazed at the white color temperature difference between the two displays. Which is which in the pictures?
[Acer Iconia A500] Bec07:
I guess samsung is the warmer one... you don't mess with samsung displays.
[Acer Iconia A500] threedfreek:
@xManMythLegend,

What video files will it support?... the only thing that bugs me is my Archos can support all my xvid divx out of the box... my samsung epic also supports divx... my acer doesn't know what divx is... bummer.
[Acer Iconia A500] gunnyman:
After the Captivate, Samsung is dead to me. Thanks for the review though. The Acer holds up better than I expected it to in the comparison.
[Acer Iconia A500] Bec07:
What was wrong with captivate? i9000 is still awesome for me. Branded/carrier versions will always suck.

I'm pissed at samsung's tablet atitude, It's like they're trying to imitate Apple. I don't want a stupid adapter to be able to use usb!

Anyway, great review! I was actually waiting for the Galaxy tab but now I couldn't care less. Iconia's connectivity outweighs it's weight by far :P
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
Excellent review -- thank you! I'm sold on my A500 (primarily because of the USB port), but it's always good to know what else is out there and how it compares.

I don't understand why people rely on the stock software and configuration for images and/or video on any tablet. Even with a desktop PC monitor, you have to fine tune the settings to get your photos and videos to display properly. I wouldn't use the Samsung's default display settings because I think they're (for the most part) over-saturated. I use 3rd party gallery and video apps, both of which allow for rather customized display settings. I'm very happy with my A500's display the way I have these apps customized, and this was very important to me (right along with the USB port and memory expansion options) due to being an avid photography hobbyist.

I hope that doesn't sound too defensive, because I'm really not -- I knew the A500's display is "cooler" (more blue) than most when buying it. I just think they all need tweaking -- even the precious iPad, which everyone raves about the display out of the box.

Thanks again!
[Acer Iconia A500] usman3206:
Well i bought Acer Iconia A500 because of the ports i don't mind a difference of 0.00000033mm in thickness or 0.000000888 pound in weight but i do care a lot if my device has all the ports i can use without the worry of looking them here and there.
[Acer Iconia A500] xManMythLegend:
I believe 8.9 will be a very interesting form factor for many people especially if it does include an sd card slot.

Top Is the galaxy tab Bottom is the acer.

I immediately installed mobo player. Plays everything but .mov thus far it also has terrific on screen controls.

I completely agree! If these were hd tvs you could not even begin the discussion without calibration. I even cut out a portion on it. In short since there are no universal apps to do this and most devices require root access ;along with the fact most people simply would not bother. So unfortunately out of the box is what people will judge it by.

But you are 100 percent correct calibration can fix many many issues. I have yet to try on the tablet but fully intend to.

P.s apologies for any weird typos. voice to text is strangely capitalizing words that shouldn't be.
[Acer Iconia A500] cdf3:
I had the Acer and returned it for the Galaxy Tab 10.1

I'm loving the GT much better. The main reason I wanted a tablet was for mobility and having something lightweight. The Acer was nice, but after surfing the net for a while I was inclined to place it either in my lap or on a solid surface. If I put it in my lap it would start sliding all over the place. The GT doesn't slide in my lap like the Acer did. It's also not as heavy, so I don't mind holding it if need be.

All tablets that come with a USB will be rather thick in size. There's no way that the GT could keep it's slimness with a USB port on the device itself. This was a concern for me in deciding if I wanted the device. Once I found out that they have a USB adapter, I was sold. The Acer had many ports, but I rarely used any of them when I had the device. It all boils down to how you're going to use a tablet. That will determine which one is the best fit.
[Acer Iconia A500] splat matt:
I did the exact same thing today and share the same sentiments. I think the acer is very good at being a full featured unit out of the box. But it was not comfortable for me to use and my glove size is an 11. I picked up the GT10.1 and wow I didn't care what is was missing.
[Acer Iconia A500] auslander1138:
+1

The Acer wins for me based on connectivity and flexibility overall.
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
PLease tell us about the software. Tab is 3.1....is it smoother? The Acer is still driving me crazy with the scroll lag.
[Acer Iconia A500] splat matt:
Actually the weight and size difference is dramatic. The photos and numbers paper really dont translate well to how well it feels in hand. Saying that I do miss the usb port on the a500 but the GT10.1 is more portable and hand friendly. Using it as an ereader is great as well because it balances in the hand without feeling top heavy.

Go play with one at BB and tell me what you think, just curious.

Another reason for my switch was I truly feel thus device will sell well and therefore have longer support. Acer already announced they were scaling back production due to slow sales. Which tells me Acer really needs to do better advertising because they have a winner.

I think noils down like this.......

If you want a light hand friendly device then get the GT10.1

If you want a device that has more media input/output accessiblity device and offers expandable storage then go with the a500.
[Acer Iconia A500] johnw230873:
Just brought the A500 and now thinking should I have waited for the G-Tab? But then I remeber all the stats and how Samsung never really updated their OS for their devices when Acer has already said they are upgrading their system to 3.1 by end of June.

Acer seems good and updating their versions of Android were Samsung isn't.

I do like the idea of being slim and light.
[Acer Iconia A500] phillymatt:
Thank you so much for your review! I was going to wait for the Galaxy, but was impatient and got the Iconia instead. I have been thoroughly pleased with it, and I'm not sure if I would want a tablet without the full USB. I have to say that I am a Samsung fan- I've had 2 Samsung phones, a PC monitor and the first Galaxy Tab. They really do have the best screens imho.
[Acer Iconia A500] xManMythLegend:
Not being a jerk. But people need to stop expecting smoothness from the hardware. It is NOT a hardware issue. HC in its current form will NOT be smooth.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914

Its a long read but the comments in there and the I.O video spell out that Googles priority is not fixing this. They will wait until cpus are strong enough to mask this major issue. The FPS and acceleration is a joke in Android.

All other modern OS are infinitely smoother with beautiful scrolling and transitions in comparison.

If you want a smooth experience attack Google every chance you get let them know its a priority. These guys really dont care about the issue.

I love Android and wont consider any current Apple device...but the trade off is an inconsistent and choppy UI.

btw my frustration above is with Google not at you for asking.

Acers response to locked bootlader and Samsungs update speed will be interesting to watch. These could be deciding factors for many.

Youre more than welcome. If your happy with Acer stick with it.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Google has a lot of work ahead of them for Android to really become The OS To Have. I personally find their utter lack of governance and inspection of Android Market apps very disconcerting; there's been lots of news lately how the apps there have all kinds of malware in them, and a lot of apps are in completely wrong category. Malware is obviously a Bad Thing (TM) and Google really needs to do something about that, and the apps being in wrong categories makes the whole category system pointless.
[Acer Iconia A500] markteacher:
Not wanting to be too nosey, but could you give me an indication of what you paid for the 10.1, I only ask because the pricing here in the UK seems to put it waaaaaaay above the Iconia.

The only reputable preorder site I can find over here is KingOfGadgets . com, offering it at a whopping 899 pounds, or $1450 :eek: :eek: :eek:

Even if this a preorder speculative price, it still puts it well over double the 430 quid or $700 I paid for my rather wonderful a500.
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
Thanks for the response, but you didn't answer my question. Is the samsung smoother? Curious if 3.1 makes the samsung any smoother than the acer.
[Acer Iconia A500] johnw230873:
This is an interesting thread, in it people are talking about how smooth the browser etc is after the install

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1121790

I haven't given it a go yet "chicken" :)
[Acer Iconia A500] xManMythLegend:
They are a weird group. They do seem to be aware of things but they seem like weirdo coders. Like theyre devoid of Alpha males or people who take control. Its a good bad thing for sure. Just that UI/Fragmentation/Market issues could have been fixed ages ago.

My concern isnt Apple. As they are just as dumb just on the flip side with Tyranny having its own shortcomings.

Its Windows 8. It really seems to want to bridge the form factors.

Its anyones game. Tablets are a new market and noones doing it 100% right yet. So plenty of room for improvement lets hope they all take it.

449.

Tipped by an XDA member bought an open box at the NYC location.

lol sorry. Honestly not that I notice. Panel switching in home page , portrait etc all experience the drastic framerate drop as the Acer does.

Browser thus far is slightly smoother in pinch zoom.
[Acer Iconia A500] tbor1277:
great review! really looking forward for the asus transformer but since its not yet here in my country, i might look at the iconia tab as an alternative. thickness of the samsung doesnt really appeal to me. specially the lack of ports. just awful for me.
[Acer Iconia A500] Bec07:
That issue is Fixed, Released and Closed. I beta-tested the Android port for N900 (Meego) and you have no idea what the lack of acceleration means.

I don't get what this *****ing is all about. Not smooth enough? switch launcher.
[Acer Iconia A500] hazard99:
So I want to add that I have had my iconia off the charger for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I've been streaming pandora and using USB powered speakers the entire time. I am impressed by its lasting ability and wanted to share.
[Acer Iconia A500] edgie168:
Which the average user would never think to do, therefore lots of "meh" or outright "this thing sucks" reviews.
[Acer Iconia A500] markteacher:
Xman, 449 is an amazing price, the cheapest 7 inch tab I can find over here in the uk is still $400. Lord only knows what they will finally decide on for the new one!
[Acer Iconia A500] gotroot801:
Price point is a factor, too. $50 is a pretty substantial amount of money to save on a tablet...
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
Really, that makes the browser and other apps smoother? No it doesnt.
[Acer Iconia A500] timehunter:
I was facing the same problem, but there's an answer. It's not a hardware issue. It's a codec issue.

MoboPlayer can play my DivX encoded AVI files on the Acer. Get it. You'll be happy.
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
That's because switching the launcher doesn't make the browser, market, and all the other apps smoother.
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
Ill answer my on question. Installed the asus/prime 3.1 and its wayyyyyyy smoother. The browser is especialy better.
[Acer Iconia A500] xManMythLegend:
Of course you wouldnt get it. You looked at a status made a snap judgement and posted nothing useful.

The problem remains and the convos at the I/O pretty much reiterated that.

http://www.satine.org/archives/2011/01/01/the-care-and-feeding-of-the-android-gpu/

Even more info to clue yourself in on.

Google doesnt see it as priority. GB and HC brought changes and still..same experiences.

Noone gives a whoot what you beta tested and when. It apparently didnt give you any insight whatsoever.
[Acer Iconia A500] xManMythLegend:
Thus far battery life seems slightly better on Acer. Will double check my refresh settings on certain apps to be sure.
[Acer Iconia A500] SirSigma:
I got an Iconia Tab A500 today after waiting a while for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to come out for a while, and it was only because I did a bit more research on the Iconia Tab.

I'm impressed with it for the most part, since it's the first Honeycomb tablet I've used. It does get a little slow sometimes, though. When Best Buy gets their demo units of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 up tomorrow, I'm going to try that out and see if that feels any better, and then I'll decide whether I want to return the A500 or keep it instead.

They both have a lot of drawbacks and advantages over each other. I remember scoffing at the idea of Samsung putting their TouchWiz interface on the tablet, but after using stock Honeycomb 3.0.1 for a while, I wouldn't mind seeing what improvements that could bring. Then there's how it has a battery life that comes very close to the iPad 2's. But of course, the A500 has a few obvious advantages as well, like expandable memory via SD card, a full USB port, and so on.

I really do need to try that Galaxy Tab 10.1 tomorrow. I've felt torn between the two for the past few days. If I can try it for a while, I'll finally be able to make a decision on whether I want to keep the A500 or exchange it.
[Acer Iconia A500] iliketoys:
I had a chance to play with the 10.1 last weekend and found it very thin and light. I haven't seen anyone comment on the cheap plastic overall feel of the device. The Acer materials feel much nicer overall in my opinion.

One other thing I haven't seen a comment about is Samsung adding their TouchWiz skin to the device in a future update.

engadget.com/2011/06/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-hits-us-retailers-tomorrow-touchwiz-ux/
[Acer Iconia A500] 4dthinker:
I ordered a Samsung 10.1 from newegg, and it should be here in a few days. Hardest decision to make. The lack of microSD seriously bothers me, and will get a huge ding when I review it. They copied the iPad feature(less) set on purpose, and in the process they copied every negative aspect I have about my iPad2.

Macrumors now has a speculation thread on how the thinness of the iPad 2 lets it flex, and that flex leads to its infamous light bleed issue. Doesn't surprise me at all. I'll see if Samsung copied that as well. Their specs claim to be a hair thinner than the iPad2.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
All the reviews I've seen mention the Galaxy Tab 10.1 suffers from the same light bleed issue, I don't know how bad it is though.
[Acer Iconia A500] vari9:
My microphone is good....it records crisp and clear....don't know why ppl say its bad...!
[Acer Iconia A500] qhinton:
No expanded memory

500 for 16 gigs is a no go for me. I have the Acer and have already filled up 24 gigs, but the catch is I can always add more. The Samsung is nice because of its size and weight, but really doesn't bring anything extra to the table for the price. The only tablet I see that may be able to compare with this beast is the Toshiba so far.
[Acer Iconia A500] lord_voldemort666:
Since the tab 10.1 has no micro SD slot, does that mean it can't be rooted?
[Acer Iconia A500] Bec07:
This would make a great screenshot for a demotivational poster :/ -_-'

Rooting has nothing to do with the SD slot. It means access to the core filesystem, like C:\Windows.
[Acer Iconia A500] ReganH22:
I exchanged my Iconia yesterday for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. My only reasons for doing so was size and screen quality. So far I am not regretting the exchange at all. My Iconia was absolutely fantastic and I loved it, but at times when reading books on it, it just felt a little uncomfortable. I went about the initial charging the same way on both tablets. The day I hot each one I immediately put them on the charger before turning them on. I charged for 4 hours then I ran the battery down to 5% and charged them back to 100 percent. I can already tell my battery on my Galaxy Tab is lasting longer than my Iconia. One thing I don't like about the Galaxy Tab is the lag of the keyboard. On the Iconia, typing was never an issue, but on the Galaxy Tab the keyboard can lag. This has happened with the stock keyboard as well as the Thumb Keyboard. I also find that the way I hold my tablet tends to hit the notifications box at times while I'm typing. This can be annoying, and was never an issue on my Iconia. I chalk this up to the shape of the tablet and bezzle size maybe. Movies, and YouTube seem to run better on my Galaxy and look a little better. The colors are a lot brighter and richer on the Galaxy, but they tend to strain my eyes a bit unless I turn down the brightness. The screen on my Galaxy does seem a but brighter and easier to read in bright lighting conditions. The rear video camera on the Galaxy seems to record with a little more quality but still pics seem better on the iconia. The front camera also seems to have more quality on the iconia for video calls. The speakers seem better on the Galaxy, but miss the Dolby Mobile from the Iconia when listening to headphones. The Galaxy seems to run remote desktops a little smoother then the Iconia but I'm not sure what would cause this. The Browser seems a bit more stable on the Galaxy. If I closed too many tabs on the Iconia at once, the browser would freeze and crash. I also had a problem where when I first tapped the address bar the keyboard would pop up and as soon as I started typing it would close. This has not been an issue on my Galaxy. I do miss the option of Being able to plug my external hard drive in, but this will soon be a non issue for me. All in all they are both excellent tablets, and it annoys me a little that the Iconia is not getting the credit it deserves. Sorry for the long post, but o hope it provides some info for those in the market.
[Acer Iconia A500] 4dthinker:
Many of the differences between the two will go away when the A500 gets it's official 3.1 update. Of course weight and thickness are the Galaxy's selling points while the microSD slot, USB, and HDMI ports belong to the A500. Very much a form vs function debate here. Apps don't even come into play as they both have access to and the capability to run the same assortment.

As for battery life on a charge, the Galaxy Tab has more battery in it than any other of this generation of Tegra 2 tablets. I think I calculated it'll do 21 minutes longer than the iPad2 when used identically, so if that matters by all means jump on the Samsung.

Asus:	6547 mAh; 9.76 hours;	(24.4 Wh)

Samsung:7000 mAh; 10.35 hours;	(25.87 Wh)

Acer:	6520 mAh; 9.64 hours;	(24.1 Wh)

iPAd:	6764 mAh; 10.00 hours;	(25 Wh)

Thrive: 6223 mAh; 9.20 hours;	(23 Wh)
[Acer Iconia A500] umanko:
10.1 also support usb 2.0 through an adapter which is small like a plug . Lack of sd card is the only drowback but you get better screen ,better battery life , light and thin form factor .
[Acer Iconia A500] swaggerjacker:
I played around with the galaxy tab today. Was just another tablet. However, I will admit it does feel good in the hands. Could that be because my Iconia has been in it's case for a while? If it had an SD slot I might have purchased one. Expansion is important to me. I don't want to be botherd with adapters. I'm happy with my Iconia.
[Acer Iconia A500] lord_voldemort666:
Well yeah I know that, but we have to have an SD slot with a card in to do the procedure right? At least that's what I was told. Maybe its just an Iconia specific thing. :-\
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
The GT 10.1 certainly feels nice and the screen is gorgeous but I definitely am one of the people who will not sacrifice the SD or USB port and the extra connection pretty much robs the device of it's "efficient" experience, should one opt to get the USB connection.

Without the SD, it would mean plugging the tab into a PC every time I needed to throw videos/music on there for travel, or hooking it up to copy anything to/from the PC vs. just popping the SD out and using that.

It also means 0 extra storage when I absolutely need it, either through SD or USB Drive....I'd have to remove and replace stuff on the device. And I do need it....I use my tablet as a multimedia device, so I need to be able to stock up on media files on there.

0 extra storage is fine for the ipad owner experience - I mean, at least in that scenario you've got 32 or 64GB to work with, but I've become used to being able to use the SD for multimedia use for cheap expansion from 16GB and use the internal space for apps and such. The usb host port has also saved me a few times during flights by charging my cell phone in time for use wherever I land.

Indeed, I think the 10.1 is great, 10/10 for people that don't use their sd card much, or have no use/need for the usb port or storage expandability....but for people like me, it just doesn't work. In time, when tablets ship with 64GB minimum - I'll be ready and willing to evolve toward a sd/usb-less device.
[Acer Iconia A500] ahsya:
This is a snapshot my daily life:

Download games, apps, put on a thumb drive. My son really love games, so I do apk-hunting everyday :D . At home, plug my thumb drive to iconia, install everything. Done.

On weekend, I really like to hunt photos. When the sd card is out of space, plug my sd card on Iconia. Copied everything to its 32GB space. Voila, I can continue take photos :)

Need physical keyboard? I got a very cheap keyboard that works on Iconia. No need to buy $150 dock. What a save! Mouse also works.

Need monster space? Just plug my 1-TB external hard drive.

My phone is out of battery! Plug it on Iconia's USB, it's alive! It's alive!

Well, in real life, once again - REAL LIFE, Iconia really helps me out. 256K or 16-million colors? Thankfully I'm not that color-sensitive person. Thin or thick? Light or heavy? I use Iconia mostly on tables and not during my walking or jogging time. It's my table's problem, not mine :D

Can't wait for 3.1 :)
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
a big + 100000000000 AGREE

Total TRUE

you made the most powerfull comment ever dude, LOVE IT.

it's exactly what I expect and do with my iconia everyday, I think I will invest in a small usb harddrive so when I will go vacation, take picture... no need to think how many GB left... Taking picture all day long, then check after on the iconia and deleting waste pictures, keeping only good shoot :D

want see few movies then just plug the harddrive and watch with Vplayer