yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] logger:
Eventually worked out how to root my Agora once I established that the instructions in post #1 "Download & unzip the relevant Drivers folder" was referring to USB drivers. I obviously wasn't installing the linked ones properly, so I grabbed another copy from the motorola site that includes an installer. Successfully rooted and deleted the two files to effect the battery drain patch. no longer have the Phone Idle or whatever it was called in the battery usage. So that part worked. Screen is still blinking on though.

The Lock screen still displays "(No Service)" as well. Is that supposed to be there still? I thought it would be removed once the telephony files were deleted. Is there perhaps some other file I should be removing to get rid of that?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
The no signal thing on the lock screen and some of the settings options are coded into those parts of the os so getting rid of them will involve some deeper Modding. I wish I had one of the pricer tabs to see how the lack.of 3g is handled in there builds.

There must be something in the logs that shows what's waking the screen .. will dig
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] logger:
Ok thanks for the clarification on that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
I Thought that as well

i watched it over ADB logcat for a while but some reason the screenwake issue didnt happen when i had it pluged into the PC !.. how annoying it knows i am trying to spy on it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
ive posted some logcats here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15589215&postcount=663

both cover teh time in which i saw teh screen wake ...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Running softlock (from the market) seems to have stopped teh screen wakes though this does mean teh tab doesnt go into full sleep mode when the screens off
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Did everyone give up lol?

Strange i turned on keep scrreen awake when power and my random scrreen wake happens less oftern
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Yeah its a bit quiet on the western front huh

im wondering if we should be focusing on honeycomb now that 3.2 asop and sdk has been released ... though i wish i new how to start
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
convince fun ^_^.. he seems to know how this stuff works.. i wish i knew enough to even look into the source code..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Has anyone flashed the latest Cyanogen from Fun yet? there was an update on the 17th July not really sure how to tell what was changed and if it works any better than the older one we were using.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pilchard:
Kogan Tablet

Can anyone help me , my Kogan refuses to see SD card or USB Stick , wont mount and doesn't offer to mount these cards
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=15725555#post15725555
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kristoaster:
When I'm in the built in recovery, trying to dump it to install clockwork mod, but the file structure I get isn't the same as in the file manager app. The folders are all different... any ideas?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pilchard:
I have fixed all my Kogan problems , I gave it to my 10 year old niece to play with !!!!!!

Many thanks to all for the tech help , I'm off to buy a 10" Netbook and throw Ubuntu on it!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bruceakinson:
Sorry guys... any news on the touchscreen eeprom firmware?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] quigo:
I have followed the instructions for tweaking the tablet up to this point, thank you all for the advice, it really has made a huge difference for me!

I installed s2e but when I select it I get a message saying that the script isn't installed?? I've removed it and reinstalled it but to no joy. Is there a step that I'm missing?

I installed rom manager on the tablet and tried to install cwm from that but it gives me various device versions none that are the Kogan, is there a version that is compatible?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] logger:
I have tweaked as per the first post, rooting and removing the telephony files. As far as I can see it has made no real difference - other than to stopped showing cell standby in battery usage screen. Screen still wakes every few minutes and battery life is the same at only a couple of hours.

So I would not recommend doing it. Shame this thread is fading away before any decent fixes have been found.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I'm sorry the fixes haven't worked for your tablet. I can usually get a couple of days out of mine & the CM7 ROM has transformed the tablet.

I don't think the thread is fading away ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] quigo:
Are you running any particular apps to help extend the battery life?

I think the mod makes a great difference to the tablet too.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Juice Defender works well
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrisd1a1:
Hi folks, hope you can help. I'm looking at getting a sub £ 200 tablet, to use as a reader, web brief, and watch movies. I'm considering either the kogan or the andy pad that is being released at the end of august.

I'm not expecting blazing power, (my hd 2 is getting older so I'm not using a power house now)just looking for reasonable usability.

I'd appreciate honest views of the kogan, I know it ain't perfect but for day to day use, how is it?

Thanks in advance

Chris
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
Couple of days???? seriously?

i get 3-4 hours at most ... what are you doing thats so different to mine? (mind you the 3 hours is playing games consistently)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I suppose I am quite a light user - I haven't thrashed it yet!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
If you're after a cheap capacitive tablet and are prepared to live with some bugs then it's fine. If you're using it mainly for video, email, internet & the odd game you should have very few problems.

Pros:

Cheap

CM7 works well (but no HDMI out, hardware acceleration or camera)

HDMI out & hardware acceleration if using original ROM

A2SD available if using CM7 (with s2e)

Cons:

Poor battery life

Touchscreen isn't very sensitive & viewing angles poor

Battery life very limited

Poor use of partition space, cannot install more than a moderate number of apps unless you use CM7 & s2e

Accelerometer is dreadful & most games that depend on it are close to unplayable

I spotted the Andy Pad as well but my Kogan was ordered by then. I suspect that there will be many more custom ROMs for the Andy Pad over at Modaco. If I was doing it again I would probably hang on for the Andy Pad if the price was in the same ball park. But I'm overall fairly happy with my Kogan which I got for 96 quid! I suspect I'll sell it on in a few months when a wider range of cheaper tablets becomes available.

EDIT - I just had another look at the Andy Pad site & I'm guessing the "Resitouch" screen is resistive. In which case I would avoid it like the plague. The higher-specced "Sensatouch" version looks interesting at 180 quid. Although I'm a wee bit concerned at their weird descriptions of the screens - why not just say resisitive or capacitive?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrisd1a1:
Thanks for the reply, think I'll wait on the andy pad and then decide once there are some reviews
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I have a Kogan, with SW:EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110627

I got clockworkmod recovery 4 installed and working brilliantly :)

Hoewver when I tried to root it using superoneclick, however I got the following:

Pushing su-v2...

failed to copy 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Downloads\SuperOneClickv1.9.5-ShortFuse\Root/su-v2' to '/system/bin/su': Out of memory

So I tried the other method of using clockwork to install su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip, and it says it installed, however after rebooting there is no su (tested with BusyBox).

I then gave up on it, and have installed CM7 (2011-07-17) and it is great.

Anyone else have issues gaining root access?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
No but you could try the CWM restore method in post #1 if you want the original ROM. But I personally think CM7 is way better.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I just tried the CWM restore from #1 post.

The device will no longer survive a standby :(

I have restored my original backup, and it now wakes up again after going to sleep, however I don't have root :(

Any thoughts? Anyone believe these oddities related?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I haven't come across this one before. Several people have tried the CWM restore method & haven't reported any problems. You could try the CWM restore method followed by a full wipe & factory reset. Might be best to stick with CM7, it's a far better ROM anyway.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
CM7 and older restore are unuseable due to the unit not waking up from sleep :(

I did try wiping cache and factory reset...will try again though, I would really prefer CM7.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
for all, please tell me

1. all CM7 users with Kogan Agora have suspend issue?

2. if you installed EM73 rom (I think latest is 20110516), you get suspend issue?

3. if you restored Kogan Agora rom, you don't get suspend issue?

no need to reflash roms, just tell me if you know.

CM7 for COBY 7022 uses their original kernel to fix suspend issue. maybe Kogan Agora too...?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
1. Can't answer for all, but I haven't read about any others

2. I installed the older Kogan ROM...have not installed EM73 (I'm assuming this is not the kogan one) and issue was present

3. I restored to my original (not in #1 post) and I no longer have suspend issue

My ROM has a date of 20110627.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
older rom you said is 20110516?

I think old Kogan Agora is same as EM73 and new one uses bit different hardware... I hope new rom works fine on old one and EM73, otherwise I need to make one another CM7 for Kogan Agora :(

COBY 7022 has bit different issue (resume but TS stop) with EM73 rom so I think 7022 and new Agora is different :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
By older ROM I meant the backup which is posted in the OP.

I'm not sure of what is reported in the Build number section of the about menu on that rom, however it is 20110627 on mine...and it does not have suspend issues.

Is there some level of protection against rooting which could have been slipped into this newer firmware released by Kogan?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
@kogan123

Is that the original firmware as if so its a newer version than mine came with .. any chance you can dump it and upload
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
i had the suspend issue with the CM7 on the agora.

i never tried the other methods you mentioned.

is there an alternative kernel that might fix the issue?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
thanks. I guess you also know what happen when you used stock rom...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
even though the CM7 HDMI and some other stuff dont work.

it works alot better than stock..

i found stock rom really laggy and the screenwakes were very temperamental, sometimes it would do it others it would not, and wifi never stayed awake it always disconnected.

atleast the wifi works better in cm7 and its not laggy. but screenwake and battery life kinda a bummer
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
sorry, I asked about suspend issue on stock rom.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
yeh it didnt suspend on the stock rom either..

for me anyway it was always waking up.

only time it would not do this is when i had it pluged into the computer watching Logcats
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
really sorry, I asked about "it doesn't wakeup after suspend" reported by kogan123.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I got a really nice-looking Samsung leather case/stand for my tablet. It's for the Galaxy Tablet but fits it like a glove. Most of the important bits are still accessible e.g SDcard, earphones, power inlet. The power & home buttons can be operated by pressing them through the sides of the case.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0046REEZA
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I will try to set aside some time over the weekend :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
The term stock rom seems ambiguous.

I have tried three roms:

1) Original "stock" rom which was installed when I received the unit (which appears to be a later firmware than the latest posted on #1 post)

2) stock rom posted on #1 post

3) CM7 2011-07-17

I have the suspend issue only with 2 & 3.

(The suspend issue means that once the unit goes to sleep, it will not wake up again.)

I seems pretty obvious that the unit I have is slightly different hardware, or for some other reason requires a different setup to enter sleep mode?

Is there some log I could take which would shed some light on this?

I guess the difficulty is that the system most likely crashes as entering sleep (it would also be crashing when exiting sleep though).

PS. I have managed to root MY stock rom (1) after much difficulty (I ran superoneclick twice in a row, first on auto, then on pneuter, and all whilst the tablet was booting)

PPS. I renamed the phone and telephony apks (*.apk -> *.apkdisabled) however this rom (1) still wakes up from sleep :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
i thought the issue all of us was having was that it is always waking up......?:confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
thanks. probably using kernel from 1) for CM7 will fix issue in this case.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
is there a way for us to extract the kernel from the original rom?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
What is the procedure to coble these together?

Is it a matter of using a different *.img file in the cm7 zip file?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] logger:
Thats the problem my stock rom but rooted unit has.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
please give me boot.img or recovery.img from your stock rom.

EDIT:

and system.img if you can. probably other parts can be shared but I want to check difference.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
fun_ mentioned he may be able to do something with the new stock rom and CM7...will wait and see. If there is anything I can help with, just ask.

However, in the mean time I am still having trouble with the stock (later than OP) waking up periodically, so I took another look in /sytem/app/ and noticed GfwFucker.apk.

Anyone known what the hell this is? A small goog told me it was some chinese firewall thing...I'm hoping my credentials weren't re-routed by the China???

EDIT: More likely that it is to avoid chinese firewall, therefore it is proly ok??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eXcaliboor:
Guys, for God's sake, please put a screenshot (even images of the tablet if possible) when you do tutorials, at least sometimes. And when you use filenames, use full links to them if possible. There are a bunch of update.zips, and a couple dead links. We noobs, who you're trying to help, can't read your mind about which one exactly you mean.

Also, updating that first instructional post with "DON'T CHANGE lk.rom OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR TS" would might save somebody's tablets from bricking. :mad:

Thanks for all the good work, keep it up.

Another thing about the TS EEPROM... we know it's the SiS9209 TS, don't we? Couldn't anybody just read the EEPROM from a working TS and use that? I think somebody here may know that? :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Will update 1st post
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
@kogan123 Ta, it will be interesting to compare. Though I'm on hols at the mo and am on gprs data only so no rush :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eXcaliboor:
Retards guide to delete phone.apk + telephony.apk

Appreciate that ;)

Now what I have done is:

(YOU MAY SKIP STEP 1 - but you never know...)

1) Installed a couple rooting ".apk"-s from the web - like Gingerbreak, z4root and others, which may be found on the internet and gained root access (but still couldn't delete "system/app/phone.apk" and "telephonyprovider.apk" - aceess denied)

2) On my Win7 x64, I installed

Eclipse

,

JDK

,

Android SDK

(for ADT), and got

"Drivers 64" from first post of this topic

. Finally my PC recognised the tablet after all these things (although it was first "unknown device" in Device manager, so I had to point to the drivers 64 folder location).

3) Using

SuperOneClick

(v2.01b1) I gained root (because of step 1, SOC write I already HAD root, but I still did it again).

-still access denied on that deletion thing, "chmod 777 system" doesn't work - read-only filesystem

(a couple restarts and reroots afterwards...)

4) Connected tablet to PC in normal mode.

5) Opened

command prompt

(Start menu->Run->cmd), navigate to where

adb

from Android SDK is (so the command prompt recognizes the "adb" command) and used these commands:

adb remount //finally changed system to read-write
adb shell //opens tablet shell
#chmod 777 system
ls app
rm Phone.apk
rm TelephonyProvider.apk

-error messages appear immediately

6) Reset the device

-still in battery usage statistics

7)

Clockworkmod

boot (look up 1st post for info about installing that), delete all caches + battery usage statistics; reboot

-finally, in my battery usage there is ONLY display :)

I have a Joyplus m778.

-The network icon is still up there, and on the main screen there is still (No service). Anybody have a solution to that?

-Can anybody guarantee me 100% that flashing cyanogen without lk.rom won't brick my screen? Don't wanna lose another one...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
You do realise that this is the Kogan Agora thread? Would you not be better off at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1101094 ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] irasl:
Bricking TouchScreen on TCC8803

Can anyone help me?

How to unbrick touchscreen on TCC8803 Tablet PC after I have run software upgrade using FwTool?

Is there way to repair it by myself?

Thanks a lot for an answer.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eXcaliboor:
Aren't they the same?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Almost, but there appears to be a few quirks & hardware differences unique to the Kogan.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] killerroot:
CM7 flash not working in Kogan tablet

Hi Everyone,

Yesterday I installed CM7 on Kogan tablet.

1. Flash is not working in the browser. It can play only Audio and NO video in the browser.

2. Camera won't work.

Did any of you guys faced this problem?

Regards

Killerroot
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] geoRG77:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15223111&postcount=515

There is no such guarantee and never will be :) I'll quote fun_: "you must agree all risks by installing non-supported files, it may brick your tablet, and you may lose official support/warranty."
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
It is expected (and explained clearly) that the Camera will not work when running CM7.

Flash, I'm not 100% on. I'd expect that if the video you were trying to watch required HW acceleration in order to decode it, then that would not be expected to work either.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
http://androtab.info/files/telechips/cm7/20110731/AGORA-8K/

please try these images. it uses kernel from your dump.

it seems it also works fine on my EM73 8K(same as older Kogan Agora) so probably any Kogan Agora user can use it.

I think it doesn't fix "waking up periodically".
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I'll give them a try after work

This should be an issue for CM7, my understanding is that this was only an issue for Stock ROMS...hopefully I'm not mistaken :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
Using this CM7 ROM the device now wakes up after going to sleep :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Does it still happen in airplane mode?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
??

There are two issues:

1) unit does not wake up AT ALL EVER after sleeping...must to a full reset

2) unit periodically wakes up when sleeping

Issue 1 only appears to affect newer Kogan units.

Issue 2 only affects stock roms.

Using CM7 fixes issue 1, and issue is not relevant for CM7 roms.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I am having trouble installing google apps :(

I have tried 20110613 and 20110702. CWM tells me that it installs correctly, however when I boot back into CM7, there is no market?

Any pointers?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
setup wifi
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
Black magic ;)

Works well now.

Thanks fun_
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I was mistaken!

Even running CM7, Kogan Agora periodically wakes up :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Mine too :confused: - there must be some process running in the background that prevents deep sleep.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
I'm trying to delete the Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk, but haven't been successful.

have you deleted theses files?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
yes, also mms.apk and still no change. You can delete them from system/app using Root Explorer or remove them from the ROM using 7zip before you flash it. I think it must be something lurking within the kernel as it happens with the stock ROM and CM7 (I think they both use the same kernel).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] higstar:
In that case, I may head back to stock...

Pros of CM7:

- soft buttons for standard android buttons

- incognito browsing

Cons of CM7:

- no soft volume button

- no HW accel (no decent movies, no youtube HQ)

- no camera

- no hdmi
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
For me another big advantage of CM7 is the ability to use a2sd.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
http://androtab.info/files/telechips/cm7/20110803/EM73-8K/

can you try this one? install(update) cyanogen.zip is enough.

newer kernel for EM73 is used.

if "stop after suspend" is fixed, I'll use this kernel for both EM73 and Agora and not provide files for Agora specific.

I think "wakeup repeatedly" is not fixed. for this issue, use "disable deep sleep" apps for now.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Is it necessary to do a wipe & factory reset before flashing this over the existing CM7? I will, of course, do a nandroid backup 1st!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
no wipe is needed for update install (as I wrote in howto on my CM7 thread). and no need to try it on old Agora, I already tried on my EM73 8K. (of course you can use it freely)