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[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
To make things clear, Sensation is at a disadvantage when it comes to benchmarks because of the following reasons. First, Android is not yet optimized for asynchronized dual core processors like the one the Sensation has. That means that at 95% of the time only one core is beign used, contrary to the SGS2 where both cores are beign used the same because they're synchronized. Second, the stock rom of the HTC Sensation is set to aggresively save battery power so it reduces the CPU running frequency to the lowest value needed to perform a certain task with decent speed. And, third, the Sensation has a higher resolution screen which puts a bigger strain on the GPU.

So, on the one hand, Android is not yet optimized for asychronized cores and does not take advantage of them, causing the second core to be running always at the lowest possible frequency and in the other hand, there's a higher resolution display. So it is absolutely normal that the Sensation scores lower than the Galaxy S 2 on the benchmarks. As for the loading times on web pages, the Galaxy S 2 is faster because it uses gpu acceleration, which the Sensation does not.

When Ice Cream Sandwich is released, which will have support for a-sync processors and native gpu acceleration, you can expect the Sensation to perform equaly and/or better than the Galaxy S 2 on benchmarks, web browsing and other tasks.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
While the GS2 may load web pages slightly faster than the Sensation. The Sensation loads them quite faster than my G2X.
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
Thank you for proving my point about Sensation owners. When they read something they dont like they attack the person who writes it. Defending their purchase to the death...

I haven't purchased the Sensation, but I mean... when your phone has about 150 MBs of ram left and Dungeon Defender uses 122mbs... Come on...

Sure there is. And for those who love the phone cheers to them. Its just rediculus to see posts such as " MY PHONE IS VERY GOOD NO PROBLEMS IF U HAVE PROBLEM YOU BUY SGS2 AND STOP MOANING", especially when I know this is not possible.

The problem is... i am suspecting HTC is falling into its old WinMo days... One day ppl will get the Sensation 2 with only upgrade a 1.5 ghz dual core + xeon flash and THEN maybe they will realise...

Its good to see a OLD HTC FAN BOY!!! Im also with HTC since the WinMo days.

To be honest HTC fan base has become a bit like Iphone fan bases the way they attack SGS2 owners.

Im very sad seeing the community shift from the days of my old winmo 6.0 phones to.... THIS :(

Oh well... hopefully soon the new fan boys will be able to see that their beloved company needs to step up.

Edit:

My friend this is WRONG...

in benchmarks other then Smartbench both phones use 1 core. They both use 2 in smartbench 2011.

This has nothing to do with asynchronous dual cores.

It has nothing to do with HTC being aggressive with the battery. When the phone reaches 100% load it will clock to 1.2 ghz.

So your post is pretty much wrong. Please stop spreading incorrect information...
[HTC Sensation] lepszy:
For your information - I do not own a Sensation but intend to get it as soon as my contract runs out. And I've never attacked anybody. But it seems stupid to me that someone would buy a phone without a proper research and then moan that it doesn't meet it expectations. Show me one example of HTC advertisment stating that this phone is faster then SGSII. Or that it has outstanding 3D capabilities. Or that its bootloader is unlocked.

This phone is not a gaming device. And I'm ok with it. I'm gonna buy it for different reasons. Mainly screen and design which I like way better than plasticky SGSII.

And I'm not a HTC fanboy. I just don't care if my phone is fastest on a world or not. And before paying £500 for a device I will make sure that it does what I want it to do.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
Gaming issues????

Guys i have a question cause im going crazy here???? Have any of you sensation owners had issues with 3d games? Cause i've had the device for almost 2 weeks and i've tried many demanding games and they were playing flawlessly! I'm not a fanboy i'm just wondering what r u talking about :confused:. I would like an answer from those who actually own a sensation not from those who read reviews and benchmarks. Thanks and sorry for my english
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Funny

First we had iOS vs Android

Then Samsung vs HTC

Now it's pre android HTC fans vs post android HTC fans.

Really, people, just get over it.

Sensation is a phone with a great potential, and it WILL be unlocked sooner or later, the only trouble is that it could be too late and something better will be out by then, so devs will shift over to it (i would really hate to see something like that).

Anyway, this thread is not going anywhere, and should be renamed to OFF TOPIC or close IMO.
[HTC Sensation] laegunum:
Other than obvious trolling, what's the point of threads like this?!

If you like to drool over benchmarks (which have no intrinsic value outside theoretical frameworks), go for the SGS2. If, on the other hand, you prefer iPhone-like premium design and build quality, grab the Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
I've had a hd2 and before that a diamond 2 and i must say sensation is much better when it comes to 3d tethering. But thats my opinion. Anyway hd2 was just a device... before the great xda devs started doing their magic ;) !!! HTC promised an unlocked bootloader for the sensation and i believe them. Anyways if they dont give it to us the xda will! And after that the sensation will be the next hd2! :p
[HTC Sensation] lepszy:
You need to remember that HTC doesn't make phones for devs on xda. They make it for an average user. They've decided to lock the bootloader for some reason and they have every right to do it. As well as you have a right to choose a different phone. You should really be dissapointed with yourself for not doing a proper research before you bought it.

And don't get me wrong I would like to be unlocked as well as I like my phones heavilly customised but I'm not going to blame a device or HTC for it. They haven't said that its gonna be unlocked have they?

It will be unlocked at some point anyway either by devs here or by OTA update from HTC so don't worry. And if you really can't wait, well get a SGSII.
[HTC Sensation] chuday:
Just get a psp/psp go

solves 3d/gaming/battery problem :cool:
[HTC Sensation] m918v:
Ha I actually learned something from you. Although, I didn't understand a quarter of what you wrote since its all computer language. But nice job explaining!

I think the reason being is that HTC already confirmed that they are going to unlock the bootloaders that devs are not doing anything until then. They still have the G2X to play around with until this bad boy is let out of its cage. People expect to see glowing benchmarks when it does get unlocked, but I on the other hand is thinking the other hand don't really get those numbers.
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
@ leftheodo

you're asking a question:

I answer it as best as I can, as precisely as I can, and so you're flamming me, as well as others here, for having asnwered:

I also smile a lot when I see brand new users, with less than 50 post, 0 feedback, people with 4 posts in 4 years, and so, come and want to teach me the lesson with a very superior and paternalist tone ^^

At least, I make you have fun of trolling me, since there's noting else to read about Sensation developpement, you don't come here for nothing (what??, XDA is a DEV forum? No joke? Not a full stock locked device forum with happy noobs? Maybe I should go on HTC official forums to find people who don't give a **** of 3D and performances as well as tweaking? everything seems upside down these days. People at XDA DEV saying "don't complain about an unDEVelopable device" )

Don't complain, you're somehow happy to read the bullshits I've wrote and to have someone to flame, there's nothing else to read, that's why you spend some time here, if you had better to do, you wouldn't! None forces you to read and answer, especially when I answer a just asked question about the Sensation and 3D

I will have something else to do too, once the bootloader is unlocked

I am the troll here, proud to be sometimes ^^ (moutyhall humour)
[HTC Sensation] kevlars9:
I don't think the qhd screen effects the benchmark to much. Just look at the quadrant scores for the Droid x2. It has a qhd and tegra 2, however it gets much higher results. I truly believe its all about the different clock speeds in qualcomms processor
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
First of all i'm not flaming you, I just wrote my opinion ( and i said it in my reply ). Just because you 're posting more often than some other ppl it doesn't mean that you 're always right ( for exmpl i would never start a thread like this just to get some attention!!!! I search first and i find what i want before i post! Those are the rules aren't they?? Thats why i don't have many posts and im sure a lot of ppl in here that are more experienced than you ). Anyway i was polite and i never flamed you. I just told my point of view. I didn't know i wasn't allowed to do so! :eek:
[HTC Sensation] lepszy:
First of all, no one is flaming you.

Bottom line here is - you bought a device that you knew is locked and now you moaning that it's locked. For me you're the biggest noob in here.

Well at least we agree on something :)
[HTC Sensation] i900frenchaddict:
yep, I bought it knowing it was locked, no surprise, but thinking it would be unlocked soon. Even devs were surprised to see the kind of Security HTC applied.

And locked or not, HTC was saying this device would have exceptionnal performances, what it hasn't compared to single core devices around. But let's say you're right and complaining is forbidden, you call it moaning (I hate this kinda "american fashion word", you can read it everywhere on the net, as well as "troll", childish words, not imaginative)

But as it seems for you here completly anormal to dare complaining about the Holly Sensation, I'll just stop it.

I'm happy you love your new toy and you use basis apps on it that don't require more than a DHD. That's not my case, that's were we're different.

See ya once this damn thing is unlocked, I just hope when it's done, I won't see any of you in topics dealing with rooting, tweaking, or high end 3D games or emulators, or I will remind you that you are supposed not to care about it. Also hope none of you is registred at Fpse (seeing how you don't care of developing and 3d and gaming, that would be surprising) 'cause you have nothing to do there indeed, we care for developing and 3D there ;-)

Have fun and a nice day today.

i900TrollAddict

PS: what will you read on the Sensation forum now that I decided to stop ""moaning"" here? Maybe the topic of the guy who asks ans lists donations to devs who'll work on the Sensation root? Another troll to flame, while waiting for something new to read in this forum, the most boring-with-nothing-happening-nothing-new XDA forum ever? loooool
[HTC Sensation] lepszy:
Look, you obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say. For the second time - I do not own a Sensation. For a simple reason - its bootloader is locked. I'm gonna wait until is unlocked before I get it.

All I'm trying to say is that you can't say this phone is crap just because it's not what you imagined it would be. This phone was not designed with outstanding 3D capabilities in mind. Nor being a devs dream. You've said yourself that without XDA community HD2 wouldn't be such a great phone. Well, all I'm saying is wait until the same community do their magic with Sensation, which they will eventually.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Evofusion:
I mean I rarely use the phone, much less 100+ Mb at a time, but looking at my usage log im at 4.75gb!!!!

HOW, I

never

used to go above 2.5gb on my G2. The only thing that may be causing the high usage could be the new google music app. I uninstalled it to see if its the culprit, and if it is then its going to suck because i really liked and even started depending on that app.

Here are a few screenshots of my t-mobile logs.

Please someone shed some light on this!!!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
So reference that date and time and check to see when that Google music app was installed. If you are streaming, you will rack up the GeeBees.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Evofusion:
Theres no way I would stream 300+ mb of music...i used to listen to online radio and not even pandora will use so much data in such a short amount of time.

It would be great if someone else who has the google app can chime in
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Camille68:
If this is the result of using the Google Music service, then I'm glad that I decided not to use it and uninstalled it from my phone. I was really worried about how this would affect data usage, especially considering the data "cap" that T-Mobile has in place.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kangxi:
Google backup
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Evofusion:
If it is the Google music app, then each song is being streamed at like 20mb or something which is ridiculous.

Ugh and I REALLY liked it, I had 300 songs up there already and enjoying the cloud service.

Is there another app that is similar? Anyone know?

EDIT: I have uninstalled it and will report back at the end of the day to see if data usage has returned to normal levels, if it has then my only conclusion is that it was the Google music service.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jsapp:
Amazon cloud service for music is similar I believe
[T-Mobile LG G2x] brett_day:
yes my usage had doubled and I do not use any cloud based services. I have gone from 1gb of data usage a month up to over 2gb
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sellingfear:
google music is the problem yesterday I did a test

checked data usage was at around 250 mb

streamed music for 2 hours

checked data usage it was over 900 mb

WTF 650 mb for 2 hours of streaming

it dont even make sense your better off just making available offline if you wat to listen to music
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bdkinney:
That's just insane! :eek:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
So, was my hypothesis correct that GMusic was the culprit?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] ThirdDeviation:
So, as a sanity check, I took OP's first block of usage as a test:

~130MB usage in one hour

= 1.04Gb

/ 3,600 seconds in an hour

= 289Kbps

I'm guessing that the bitrate for GMusic is dependent on the song, but has an upper threshold somewhere to ensure quality (i.e. GMusic will compress 360Kbps to sub-300 to ensure stream quality).

Seems to me that 289Kbps is a bit high, but within reasonable bounds for higher-quality streaming. Did I do the math right?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Evofusion:
You may be right, if I actually streamed music for the entire hour, which I don't believe I did... I would maybe listen to about 4 or 5 songs max, I mean just look at what a previous poster said before me...he used 600mb in 2 hours of constant streaming.. Which comes out to 300mb/h...do the math there and see what the bitrate comes out to.

Either way, after uninstalling google music my data usage has returned to normal levels. I will post a screen shot when I get on a computer.

Something fishy is going on with the way google music streams music
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
Based on what I've gleaned from Google searches, here's what I calculated:

First some hard numbers --

• 1 Mb = 1,000 Kb = 1,000,000 bits

• 1 MBps = 8 Mbps

• Google Music Streams at a maximum of 320 Kbps

• 60 minutes = 3600 seconds

So if you stream Google Music at its maximum bitrate nonstop for a full hour this is how it works out --

320 Kbps × 3600 = 1,152,000 Kb/hr

1,152,000 Kb/hr ÷ 1,000 = 1,152 Mb/hr

1,152 Mb/hr ÷ 8 = 144 MB/hr

So the most the music streaming itself could use on the download side of things is 144 MB/hr. Perhaps the app is downloading/uploading other data as well tho as part of the streaming process? I'm not sure.

I have my Google Music app to stream over wifi only.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
It's a little lower at about 140MB/hr since it's 1024K, not 1000K.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
There are 1000Kb (kilobits) in a Mb (megabit).
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
1024 KB (kilobytes) in a MB (megabyte).

My math is sound.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
Somehow I had it in my head we were storing data. Your calcs should be correct then.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
Lol yea I hate calculating megabits and megabytes, etc. I always get confused at some point.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] GideonX:
To the OP, can you check in your settings and see if caching is enabled? If it is, your music is being downloaded first before playing. To truly make it stream, you need to disable it I believe. This might be another reason for a rise in data usage?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
Wtf. That's nuts. Most of my music is 128k quality and its usually 1mb per minute of music. I don't use steaming audio on my phone but I'm glad I don't now. Craziness.

G2x with CM7 and faux ..21 kernel
[T-Mobile LG G2x] phburks:
Keep in mind that my calculation was based on a most-extreme-data usage scenario. Google Music says it streams audio at whatever bitrate it is encoded. So yours would stream at 128 Kbps. 320 is just the maximum from what I could find by searching.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tombaker1:
I presume you are not using the hotspot, and left it without a password (default) and the neighbors are not sucking off you teat.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] blestsol:
google music used a crazy amount of data. 2GB by itself. I barely use my phone for the internet since im on wifi at home.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] roadrunnerrd3:
Ok so I did some experimenting these past hours and I've found a terrific solution to the Vibrant/SGS4G creaking issue that many people have encountered!

Heres what you need:

*Papertowel

*Scissors

LOL not much of a list but trust me!

Step 1: Take your battery door off of your phone

Step 2:Cut a rectangular piece of papertowel enough to fit over the battery, sim and sdcard

Step 3: Place the rectangle cut over the back of the phone

Step 4: Now put on the battery door directly over the papertowel peice

IE: You should notice that the battery door now fits tighter and has no space to make contact with the plastic inside, the papertowel acts as a buffer between the plastics - eliminating the creaking noises.

[EDIT] - Don't cut too big of a piece and if its not snapping on as normal i'd suggest not forcing it and reducing the size of your cutout.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Kool ill have to try this if the creaking gets to bad. Thanks bro
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] roadrunnerrd3:
Kudos to you lol! Reply back with your findings if you decide to try my method
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
Will do when I try, creaking isn't that bad yet but it will most definetly get worse over time:( but atleast we can fix that now.:)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Beefvvl:
Haven't heard any creaking yet. I've owned a Vibrant and now this. Wouldn't the paper towel cause more heat? I dunno. I'm thinking it's like leaving your laptop on top of your bed effect. But then again it is thin. So I dunno. lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] XPLANE9:
The battery door definitely fits a bit loose to the back of the device and makes loose contact with the bezel. What I did was just stick two pieces of scotch tape to the back of the cover side by side which seemed to work fairly well.

Not having to do with the battery door, but if your bezel creaks, some units have loose bezels out of the box. You could try to tighten the screws on the bezel on the back of the bezel (with the cover removed). Of course, I am not responsible if you break it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
Mine creaks around the volume rocker:(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] icy56:
My bezel definitely creaks :(. So all I gotta do is tighten the screws behind the battery cover right?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] XPLANE9:
It helped a little on my unit. I don't think it is the bezel itself as it is the battery door contacting the bezel in a manner that causes the creaking. Does it creak if you take off the cover?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mbernusg:
This worked great lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
mine only creaks with the conver on. a slight tightening of the screws did not help.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] XPLANE9:
Sorry to hear that. If it creaks with the cover on, then you should try the trick from the OP. My bezel was loose and creaking a little with the cover off. Sucks to be OCD...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] roadrunnerrd3:
Thanks for trying my method guys hahahahaah OCD FTW! Everybody thinks i'm a freak because i get so off kilter with such little things but, glad to see i'm not the only one who had supersonic hearing!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] romdroid.:
is this the only way to fix it? I am getting pissed of that my SGS is creaking..****ing **** build quality
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] qpqpqp:
I don't think its a good idea to do this. The paper prevent heat from dispersing when your phone heats up. If too much heat is generating while you play game or use your phone it might cause the battery to explode.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] romdroid.:
Ok i thought so also but there is no other solution to stop the darn creaking sound?!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Exodian:
Buy a case. Not being a smart ass. I bought a body glove case and have no creaky door issues. Plus it gives the phone a little more mass, makes it feel less cheap and not as slippery.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] romdroid.:
already have a tyre case, do u recommend any other case?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Lol, do you guys Chuck Norris grip your phones? I only get that sound when I squeeze pretty hard on my phone.

Also, putting a piece of paper there seems dangerous. My battery gets pretty hot sometimes when I play with it for too long (games, YouTube, etc.). I'm sure that heat would make the paper catch fire. Then again, I'm no fire expert. XD
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] avrillapete:
It might just be the case I have, but I've never heard the phone make any creaking sounds. This is a simple fix though if you have the problem haha.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Exodian:
I'm using a body glove case.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] falcons2:
Mine was creaking but then I put my dads spare vibrant battery door on my GS4G and the creak went away. And the dark battery door looks sweet with the silver buttons
[Droid X General] mikeew83:
I just got milestone x and got it rooted and then bootstrapped recovery installed liberty rom gb and am now stuck at the boot logo I cannot reboot in to recovery and do not know what to do cannot find any sbf's back to stock any help please .
[Droid X General] mikeew83:
any help would be great

I have been sitting here for about 2 hours now trying to fix this and have not found the answer i found a generic sbf file but it will not flash this is really frustatrating i just got this phone today and my fiance got the original milestone which works great rooted and running rom but i rooted milestone x bootstrapped btw its alltel network and now after installing liberty gb it is just stuck at the boot logo yellow fist i have searched to no avail and would love some advice or maybe a direct link to the sbf so i can at least try and go stock and try over again thanks.
[Droid X General] comediangrant:
to be honest im having a similar problem with my droid x but cannot find a direct link to an sbf to save my soul

EVERY THING I FIND IS A RUN AROUND and constant ads and nothing is helping

I wish you the best of luck
[Droid X General] mikeew83:
ty

yea this is very disheartening lack of support alltogether for the milestone x really just depressing at this point was so excited to get this and root it and get it running snappy and now i know its not bricked but i need help to get it back to stock so i can start over.
[Droid X General] GunnerOnASpooky:
Try this thread...

http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-rs-guides/12015-complete-droid-x-sbf-flashing-guide.html
[Droid X General] SirPots:
hey feel you pain it sucks to have a phone that is just a generic one on a regional carrier with no support like people on verizon can get
[Droid X General] Lofi Goosh:
Ehhh?...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1117885