[Captivate General] Shammyh:
So just to throw my $0.02 into this thread, which incidentally should be titled "People ranting on XDA: the Galaxy S bootloader story", since it has nothing at all to do with the leaked Captivate 2.3.3 firmware... which was, you know, the reason why I started reading this thread to begin with.

I've flashed using Odin 1-Click maybe 200-300 times? I'm a bit of a flash-a-holic, and whenever I'm in "let's make the phone work for weeks mode" instead of "let's see how many ROMs I can flash before dawn mode", I always flash back to stock before doing anything. In fact, I also clear the /efs partition, and force a nv_data.bin rebuild once I've gotten my desired ROM installed. I've also flashed ROM packages with either the PBL, or SBL, many many times. I don't use Heimdall, since despite Odin's problems, I prefer software designed to work with my phone over software reverse-engineered to work with my phone.

Long story short, I have only once had an Odin job fail midway, and that was because I was stupid and pulled the cord without looking while it was still finishing flashing the system.rfs partition. I'm also not an idiot, and I remove pets, women, drunk people, mogwais, and everything else from the vicinity of my phone/computer when I flash. I double check cable quality, make sure my computer is all set, and leave everything nicely on a solid flat table when flashing. I go through all of this because on my previous phones, SGH-i607 "Blackjack"/Kaiser/Rhodium if you screwed up during flashing, there was no coming back. Granted the Galaxy S is much harder to brick, but flashing via Odin/Heimdall should never really be taken lightly. CWM on the other hand is pretty much impossible to brick with (unless you go and start formatting random partitions through the "mounts" menu).

I tend to believe that as long as you are careful, flashing bootloaders is no more dangerous than flashing any sort of ROMs on older pre-Galaxy devices. Yes, there's always a chance it will fail, but there's always a chance I will die every time I get in my car. Doesn't stop me from driving though... :)

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@AdamOutler: Everyone here appreciates the work you're doing trying to find a cheaper and less invasive alternative to JTAG. I follow your work closely, and also the thread over in the i9000 section. Keep up the good work! But also remember, you did not do any sort of science to come up with the "1 in 100 bootloader flashes will fail". Clearly you are an engineer, and understand that numbers picked out of the air don't mean much. So why throw stuff like that around here on XDA?

@MikeyMike01: You're an excellent ROM chef, and make one of the longest standing, and most respected ROMs around here. But also remember, saying "this wins the dumb post of the day award" to anyone, about anything, is flame-bait. I tend to agree with you here about Odin and bootloaders, but creating an air of disrespect does no one any good. And worse, it sets a bad example for the loads of n00bs streaming into XDA everyday.

If you guys wanna yell at each other, pick up a phone, or IM, or IRC, or email, or PM, or Facebook message, or tie notes to bricks and throw them through each other's windows at night. But please keep it off XDA, and especially in a thread which has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU'RE ARGUING ABOUT. :mad:

Thanks and maybe we can get back to the possibility of an official 2.3.x release for our Captivates?