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[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
AT&T has already announced that they are keeping their 3G bands, and T-Mob customers will need to switch devices.

http://www.androidguys.com/2011/03/21/att-statement-tmobile-customers-replace-3g-handsets-merge/

Also, the financial transaction part of the merger isn't going to happen until March 2012 at the earliest, possibly longer depending on how the FCC rules. Plus, I would guess (maybe incorrectly?) that the actual technical logistics of merging the networks will not even start to happen until after that.

If I was in need of a new phone, and the type of person that replaces my device every year or 2, than I would not wait around for the merger to upgrade. Get a new phone now, and then upgrade again when the merger happens. Of course, not everyone replaces their phone all that often, and doing so before you qualify for an upgrade requires you pay the retail price (or buy an unlocked device for premium price). So its obviously a personal preference/choice based on your individual needs and resources.

Also, if AT&T is going to force existing A-Mob customers to switch devices to get 3G/4G, then I'm guessing (again, just a guess) that they will offer some type of special discount or early upgrade privilege.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr234:
The deal hasn't even been approved yet. Don't count on it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jandyman:
Thanks for the replys guys. See my rhodium(touch pro2) has begun to give troubles and the old hardware is slowly failing so its time to buy a new fone. But I will probly havta wait untill july anyway (when I'll have the money for it)

And I really really am eagar for a dual core phone :P but the my budget is 300 or less, and even if the doubleshot or g3 are released in my 'new fone buying time' I'm presuming the ebay price will still be above my budget?

Another consideration I have is that when the g3 comes out . . .will that not bump down the value of the desireZ/g2? So instead of getting one for 280-300 on ebay I mit get one for 200-250! :) hhmm I must weight up my options I suppose ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ace42:
The G3 should be released with Quad-Cores since that is planned by Qualcomm later this year, the Google phone normally has very good specs. Tmobile will have it since it had the G1+G2. The Doubleshot=MT4G Slide I was talking to someone who said it might come in 1-2 months.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Wow imagine a quadcore 1ghz each core on the G3? Nothing can touch that phone lol

T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
[G2 and Desire Z General] blackknightavalon:
I really, really,

really

hope AT&T doesn't screw T-Mobile like they screwed Cingular. I don't want to change carriers but I will if I have to (in spite of T-Mobile having the best customer service out of anyone due to the fact that you're not calling Bangalore).
[G2 and Desire Z General] eviLutions:
Hopefully it comes out by this summer. I miss having the G2, but I had to let my baby go because she wasn't smart enough to swim and she had no life insurance. ;(
[G2 and Desire Z General] knightslay2:
I hope they fix the anntenna issues so that users won't accidently block it and have reception issues.
[G2 and Desire Z General] scottmog:
thank you for responding to a 8 month old thread.
[G2 and Desire Z General] romerom:
ditto, right?
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOUNGTWAN:
i hope they give us a damn front facing cam damnit and mabey a bigger screen more so jus a front facing camera
[G2 and Desire Z General] romerom:
That would definitely be a must have for me :) Also, if they could make the damn microphone work with the beats by dre headphones via the 3rd ring.. as well as volume up/down on that thing..... that would be GRRRREEEEAAAT
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
im more than sure they'll add a front facing cam lol i just want a 3.8 screen like on the mytouch 4g since its wider and longer which facilitates typing on portrait mode
[G2 and Desire Z General] kitila:
Lofl 3.8 screen so if the g2 what .1 bigger u would be happy the g2 is a 3.7 screen lol

But a g3 would be sick
[G2 and Desire Z General] alpha-niner64:
I would much prefer a 4 inch screen: or something comparable to the Epic 4G. Bigger screen means more keyboard space. It'll make the device heavier: but I'm already used to that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
Just jumped ship from the G2 to the MyTouch 4G Slide

Sure, it doesn't look as nice as the G2, but it's the logical upgrade from the G2 while maintaining the same design. Keeping all the important bits too (trackpad, camera shutter, metal casing, etc.)

More devs need to move to this device, seriously. It is Cinderella, but the coach never came.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
The most depressing thing about this thread being dug up from 8 months ago, is that we aren't any close to having a true successor to the G2 in that amount of time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ohshootrawr:
I don't know if you've already checked, but rootzwiki has quite a bit more selection for the mt4gs than xda does. I'm thinking about claiming insurance on my phone and getting the doubleshot :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Common sense would tell you it would have to be the full 4" to stay competitive with non qwerty models. Still, no word on any replacement. Everyone seems to be talking about the HTC Ville and SGIII lol! I hope HTC doesn't forget about us!!!

---------- Post added at 11:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:19 AM ----------

LOL! soooo true! I guess we're getting restless
[G2 and Desire Z General] ericino:
Lol I did not see the age of this thread when I clicked on it, imagine my surprise!

Still no G3 or even an announcement :(

Thank goodness the awesome devs here produce things to keep my phone fresh and up to date. If not for them, I would have wanted a new phone much more than I do now.

Running ICS without crashes or weird issues at 1.8GHz, this old lady still manages to make me smile :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
yes, there is a CM7 KANG as well, albeit with a few bugs...

If the CM team officially pick up this device, I will be so happy. I think they will, by the looks of it. G2 users will start craving more power soon and the CM team will have to add a fresh QWERTY to their lineup.

On another note...

I get the feeling that ICS will not play well with the Vision. It's an aging device and this next update will really start to show some growing pains. And although overclocking your device to 1.5 GHz is cool, it's not going to be perfect forever. Pretty soon the battery will go and some apps won't run as fluidly as they used to because of all the extra strain from ICS. You have to realize this device is already 1.5 years old. I can't play GTA III without the phone lagging at times, no matter how much I overclock it. And I'm overclocking my phone up to battery temps of 50 degrees C. I understand it's asking for a lot from our phone, which is why...

The need for dual core has arrived. And the MT4GS is the ONLY device I would consider a worthy and parallel successor to the G2. Luckily the device has a lot of beef under the hood.
[G2 and Desire Z General] alpha-niner64:
I thought about upgrading to the MT4GS, but I've grown fond of the Z-hinge design of the G2. Working out in the field, the design makes it easy to clean the dirt under with a Q-tip, compared to the regular slide outs. Plus the design makes snap-on cases more manageable. I would not be dissuaded if the G3 uses the same Z-hinge design. I would even be convinced to upgrade if they work some way to enable phone usage while lying down.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
After the PR nightmare and all the flac tmobile got from the Z hinge on the G2, I don't think they're going to use that design again. That's probably why they killed it off so quickly.

It's a great hinge; better than a traditional slider in my opinion, but has already been tainted in the public eye = not good for sales
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidcues:
DREAM to VISION to what? ALLEGORY? FANTASY? PRINCIPLE?

be interesting to see what name it gets. if real.

and please for love of Gawd...if it has a keyboard add a fourth row for numbers!
[G2 and Desire Z General] 313dash:
I'm still hoping for HTC to make this phone but I see now Tmobile is in love with LG! Ugh. The new mytouch line sucks all of those look ugly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
I concur yes, the new lg mytouch line is ugly.

None of the mytouch line ever came out with nice looking phones, but hardware value was and still is hard to beat. HTC makes some great phones, no matter what line they came from.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
Unfortunately, Pipedream or Vaporware seems like apt names, for now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ridingonfumes:
I think the g3 won't come out till next year and it will be one of the first 2 LTE tmobile phones, the other being a non-keyboard phone probably a mytouch lte
[G2 and Desire Z General] killj0y:
Dude this thread is way old....
[G2 and Desire Z General] jinxtedium:
Htc in a statement said that making a phone with a keyboard was not a priority for them. They wanted to focus on a a few core phones, the One series specifically. Can't remember where I read it, so take with a grain of salt.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cybot_x1024:
I don't think HTC will be making any other keyboard phones. I remember they said they were going to consolidate their phones to fewer and more defined classes starting with the One Series. Which means they were going to have only one phone for each tier and discarding with all others including keyboard phones.

In the past, the G1 and G2 have been made by htc so I don't think T-Mo will hand over that name to another company. The closest you will get to a G3 is the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G. Nothing more.

HTC isn't even considering ICS updates for any other of their Qwerty devices, including the Doubleshot which has the best spec amongst them all. This should already tell you something about HTC and their decision about the future of physical keyboarded android phones.

I'm sorry guys but that's just how things are. There's not going to be a G3. Especially not from HTC.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z General] KyraOfFire:
Of course HTC's strategy is working fantastically, so they will continue to ignore customer's will, won't they? *heavy sarcasm*
[G2 and Desire Z General] biketw:
My first smart phone > DesireZ (G2), but it's RAM really too small to run smooth hTc sense, so XDA ROMs let me happy to use my G2.

I love keyboard phone, typing is fast then any input, but seems hTc no any plan for next gen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] shine_118:
T-mobile g3

my dz's hard keyboard never be used.i think G3's keyboard not be used too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tanveer2k12:
ok

I just need a more powerful, better battery life, more ram, android 4.x most importantly KEYBOARD phone! I hope this comes I will get it in the U.K
[G2 and Desire Z General] jandroide:
I wait for this...

It would be very nice if the g3 get a quad core cpu i think :good::cyclops:
[G2 and Desire Z General] cybot_x1024:
The HTC MyTouch 4G slide is the last keyboard phone you will ever see from HTC. They made that clear when they were launching the HTC One Series phones.
[G2 and Desire Z General] johrie:
They never said "last" or "never again".
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
Of course they won't say that directly, because that would just piss us all off. But you can take a hint. They are just giving you false hope. No doubt QWERTYs are a dying market.
[G2 and Desire Z General] XsynthZ:
This is true. I find myself using the onscreen keyboard far more than the physical keyboard on my G2. It used to be that the hardware qwerty keyboard was a must because the software keyboard in android was terrible, but it has gotten pretty decent since gingerbread.

Plus, everybody is trying to make the "worlds thinnest" smartphone. It's pretty hard to make a thin smartphone with a hardware keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cybot_x1024:
I guess its the same way Intel never said they will "never" make a discrete GPU. But let's not get off topic.
[G2 and Desire Z General] papabear:
It sits on the desk most of the time meow . But i only used the touch keyboard when necessary. The screen is too small for that crap . I have accepted the fact that qwerty keyboard on phone are dying. Touch keyboard still annoy me tho. Having a large screen helps. My fat fingers do not. Ha.
[G2 and Desire Z General] johnyeah:
I agree, the touch keyboard takes up too much space on the current screen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] oVeRdOsE.:
+ I can look into my gf eyes when I'm texting during dinner time :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
There are so many things wrong with this sentence
[G2 and Desire Z General] GinoAMelone:
Your GF is very tall. I'd say 12-14 inches.
[G2 and Desire Z General] onebornoflight:
The keyboard on the Relay is fine for my fat, stubby fingers lol just FYI.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jinxtedium:
6 months after the last post, should I lose all hope that a G3 is coming?

Or at least a very high end QWERTY phone, preferably by HTC.
[G2 and Desire Z General] onebornoflight:
After the fate HTC abandoned the Doubleshot to I should hope someone else would make a G3...
[G2 and Desire Z General] remiks3:
I want an LTE compatible T-mobile G3 with a physical keyboard, and the latest version of Android with the same hardware bells and whistles that are in the latest smartphones.......too much to ask for? :laugh:
[G2 and Desire Z General] -DarkKnight-:
This thread is so old ...
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
Its sad that not one company has come out with a decent QWERTY Android smartphone which's bootloader can be unlocked....
[G2 and Desire Z General] -DarkKnight-:
Moto?
[G2 and Desire Z General] dearoldblighty:
Would love it if this were true. The G2 is the best designed phone. Gotta have the hardware keyboard for emulators.
[G2 and Desire Z General] HeaT420:
Man I can only hope, will definitely get one. I love my G2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] slayer3032:
Sadly, it's just never going to happen. HTC abandoned hardware keyboards because people won't buy a phone thick enough to include one according to their research.
[G2 and Desire Z General] HeaT420:
That's not right, I love the Physical Keyboard. I type ALOT faster with it, just takes getting used to.
[G2 and Desire Z General] blackknightavalon:
Their "research" only involves aping crApple.
[G2 and Desire Z General] slayer3032:
Honestly, take a look around. We are a minority, most people are merely interested in how thin and light their device is. After that, you have how much it costs and how new it is, the "enthusiast" community is still infantile and is just starting to be relevant. The computer "enthusiast" market has just recently expanded in the last few years while the phone market is about the early 2000's. Look where Blackberry went, they were convinced people wanted their specific type of phone while design evolved around them. Hardware keyboards most likely haven't seen their last but I don't see anymore flagship devices coming with them such as the G2 did.
[G2 and Desire Z General] JayGreeny:
If there is going to be another qwerty phone it's not going to be from HTC. They've stated that the market doesn't want keyboard phones, which seems like bull to me.

With google's acquisition of motorola, we might see some moto phones with qwerty and stock android, but we won't be seeing any Sense qwerty phones again.

A shame, Sense2/3 was the best looking android imo, the lovely huge 'phone' button was a treat in this age of square icons.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bendodge:
They need to come do some research on us. Today I've been playing with an HTC Sensation I bought (student; cheap :)) to replace my beloved G2, and I find myself wishing:

1. For a real keyboard, specifically with the Z hinge.

2. For a thicker phone. Who cares about thinness? Thin phones are hard to hold securely. Just dump more battery in if nothing else.

4. For an easy battery door.

5. Trackpad-thing. It's really hard to move the cursor just one or two characters without one.

I'm not sure I'd change it, but I've also found myself disliking the larger screen, as it's harder to hold and reach across with the thumbs.

Grr, maybe we can come up with some mod to replace the guts of our G2s with a newer board and keep the keyboard and battery door.
[G2 and Desire Z General] oVeRdOsE.:
well , I'm looking for a good replacement for my dz, and no cell phone is complete as the dz.

If you look in the basic features, the desire z only miss the front camera. Which is not a big problem now, since hangout support the back camera, I can video chat with my friends by showing what I'm looking, better then my face imho.

The only great phone, the most complete for now , is the LG optimus pro.

- hard key for home

- sd slot

- removable battery !!!!!!!!!

- fm radio

- with great specs, 1080 screen, etc.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtmaster303:
Galaxy S Relay is the last good qwerty if you guys want one. Has official CM support

Sent from my Galaxy S Relay
[Verizon Droid Charge] basement_trash:
How can I reinstall the Stock Weather Widget? I thought I saw a deodexed SW package for the charge here somewhere. Would I just need to drag the deodex and APK to the SD card?

Running Gummy and imnuts Kernel currently. Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Droid Charge] RaptorMD:
It may not be that easy, depending on what ROM you are running you may need the Samsung app that manages their widgets and you then could likely use the deodexed version of the weather widget.

The hard part is we don't have a key or legend to work from if we what the file names equaled we could figure it out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] immaage:
I'm not sure what the answer is either, but I had always thought that the stock weather widget was some weatherbug widget?

In any case, you should check out Beautiful Widgets. It costs a bit, but it has great weather and clock widgets as well as skinning features.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ¿GotJazz?:
+1 on B.W. :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinkertron:
I never backup my original TMOBILE rom when I had it flashed to CM6, is there are tmobile rom backup out there that I can go back too, or is it even possible?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osaeed:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Full_Downgrade_Guide_-_HTC_Dream

Good luck

(Can not be held responsible if you mess up)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
Hello

I don't know if you guys remember Team Whiskey overclocked the GPU in their 2.1 kernel "Manhattan Project" could this be done again?

I'm not talking about the FPS cap.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowofzeus:
DragonMod Kernel has it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldfield16:
dragonmod has it, though the kernel itself doesn't quite have all the kinks worked out yet
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Dragon has it, but wasn't Manhattan Project cancelled because it made the phone really unstable?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
Yea mostly because of the 1.6 ghz oc
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
Guy ddoes. Anyone have the old oclf.it is not in.market anymore.with stageffright i am aiming 2600+ in quadrant
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskiratsingh:
Google OCLF, download the latest version. Old version is clubbed with new one. I think its without stagefright. I get quadrant close to 2000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
i got 2680 with stagefright :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskiratsingh:
Wow...Can you share it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
Open build.prop in /system and in the last few lines u will.see stagefright word just xhange value to.true
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ggclanlord:
Der r 4-5 stagefright lines...

Whose value to chnge?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] trip007in:
Stage fright will mess up your phones media capabilities whether it is recoding a video or playing them. What do you want to achieve with the high score? Does it ready add on to any noticeable improvement in performance?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
no noticeable difference,just inflates quadrant,and cant play even avi or record videos or download files!!!!!:eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
all of 'em
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ggclanlord:
Oh. Jus inflates quadrant score...

M nt chngng thn...

Tnx anyways!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] manrock111:
Yes lagfix effect only can be seen on quadrant score rest there is no significant difference in normal use.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ggclanlord:
Ok...

Thn i wudnt lik to do it.

Thnks anyways
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sirilpta:
hai.... can anyone telll what is the use of lagfix....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sakindia123:
it speedens up loading of apps and decreases lag
[Nook Color General] cosmonk:
This may be a noob question and I hope there is a simple solution, but I couldn't find anyone with the same problem.

I just got a NC yesterday and used eyeballer's guide to install CM7, without the OC kernel. Installation went fine and now I'm running CM7, and everything appears fine, except for USB.

If I connect the USB cable, Windows 7 recognizes that NC is connected to it, and the NC batter starts charging, but there is no screen on the NC saying "USB mode" or whatever it is supposed to say, and I can't access the NC's data on my PC either.
[Nook Color General] cosmonk:
Nevermind. NookColorUMS worked. Since I don't know what I'm doing it took a while to get it installed and figure it out.
[Nook Color General] advocate2:
What is NookColorUMS??
[Verizon Droid Charge] thefunkbot:
I've finally fixed samsung's screw-up with the contacts tab in the dialer. Heres a patch to flash in cmw that will fix it. Thanks to Confuscius in #charge irc for testing! (as i have no charge)

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/?x7dpbtg84pdi268

Screenshot:
[Verizon Droid Charge] kejar31:
this looks great and will be included in the next release of GummyCharged!
[Verizon Droid Charge] yyhd:
sweet.

10char
[Verizon Droid Charge] ballanda123:
I don't consider it to be a screw-up. "Contacts" is an icon that takes you to a separate app (Contacts), whereas the other two are tabs within the same app (Dialer). There should be a visual distinction on the Contacts icon (as opposed to tab). But to each his own.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nitsuj17:
its out of place and throws off the look of the tabs...samsung does that on like half the builds for the various galaxy s phones and everyone always corrects it

so id the vast majority of people prefer it uniform rather than the way it is on the charge
[Verizon Droid Charge] underscored:
Dang. Just when I was getting used to their screw up and a fix comes along.

Yes - that's my big contribution to this thread.

Thanks for the fix!
[Verizon Droid Charge] thefunkbot:
Use the thanks button if you think you are wasting space by making a post to thank me! thats what its here for :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] NaTHaN_GT5830:
How do you made???
[Verizon Droid Charge] John.F.Remedy:
Qurstion... I installed it but now my phone button (in apps and in my drawer) is grey and doesn't work. I can only get my phone/dial pad up if I go through contacts. How can I fix that?
[Verizon Droid Charge] dSlice:
Not to sound like a douche but why would you install something that's over a year old? Lol

Easiest fix is to dirty flash Tweaked.

Sent from my Droid Charge running Tw3@3d 3.2b enhanced by dSlice's Scripts & Tweaks
[Verizon Droid Charge] John.F.Remedy:
Not douche sounding at all. It's a valid question. I was having issues installing tweaked 3.1 but finally got it. The ICS theme and contacts look so much better anyways. Thanks for the reply though.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nismology:
Ban.

In other news, that dialer looks fantastic. I kinda miss the aosp gingerbread theme. Way too much blue these days.
[Droid X General] taskellusaf:
so does anybody know when or who is going to fix the problem that gingerbread caused with the app not being able to dial in what its supposed to... worked fine on previous releases
[Acer Iconia A500] BrianDigital:
i stopped reading when u said the acer is heavy and teared up with laughter at the thought of u weight lifting