yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
its the SAME processor!!! do you not understand that, so when we get 2.3.3 OFFICIAL and the unlocked bootloader we will be able to overclock as much as you and your beloved desire. il be happy too admit if you had a proper point in why the desire is so amazing, maybe you get 2500 quadrant scores!
[XPERIA X10 General] lloydi200182:
I went the opposite way last week, had a desire for a year, sold it and got an x10i and 50 quid change. Im loving the bigger screen and better camera as well as more internal space. The battery life on wolfs tw007 rom is exceptional compared with the desire, i loved my htc but this certainly does not feel like a downgrade, they are very much on par in a lot of ways imho

Sent from my Sony X10i 2.2 TW 007
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
I have an inspire now and its a big upgrade! Multi touch, unlocked bootloader, 16mil colours, and bigger screen! The inspire is also supported by many devs. I gave my dad my beloved x10 and he asks how to fix this and that and its weird having to use the x10. Also, I can hear people when I'm in a call :p
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
I was in dilemma between the Desire and the X10 a year ago

and decided to go for the X10 because of the looks and the camera.

It comes down to personal preference, but I don't like flashing all the time,

I like to try new things but most of all, my phone is my personal phonebook/notepad/message center and so much more, so my data are precious to me

and I like to have something stable that works. And at the end of the day,

knowing myself, the only way I won't get bored is if I like what I see. ;)

Having said that, of course Desire is a good phone, the easily unlockable bootloader is its greater plus against the X10.

But for the reasons I mentioned above, when my father asked if he could have my phone, I gave it to him gladly and went ahead and bought me a new one, in white! :D

Really, there's no need for heated debates. It's all about what each person wants, needs and likes. Peace! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] josephislee:
"Also, I can hear people when I'm in a call" LOOOL so lucky, if only my X10...

Sent from my Asus Transformer
[XPERIA X10 General] kalfou:
The desire is better, why are people even debating that, your silly person if you honestly believe x10 is a better phone. Acquire an education redneck

Sent from the Aids ridden slums of China using the claw of an unborn rat
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
The X10 is better :)

The ONLY thing that made Desire better was latest updates, it has lost that now, as for developer support, X10 has plenty and can be overclocked, but why do all that when we are getting an OFFICIAL 2.3.3 ROM with the kernel to go with :D

The X10 has a better display in terms of quality and true 16:9 wide screen ratio.

X10 has the far better Camera plus better video recording

X10 has a larger battery with longer uptime

X10 has a better design

and now X10 will have a later version of the OS, im so glad i phjckd it over the Desire back in July, i was going to take the Desire due to latest updates, so if i had it now i would be SOOO pissed lol.

Would hate to be at the mercy of custom ROMs so early lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
If the desire is better, what are you doing in the X10 forums? Do you think you can change people's opinions here?
[XPERIA X10 General] zmbutt:
he is sharing his "opinion"

I sold my Desire for X10 because i didn't like its battery, it drain too quick for my use, they both have pros and cons, & its all depends on personal choice, thats why so many companies are making different models !
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
You dig the Desire, we get that and we feel for you.

You could be a little more polite though, wouldn't hurt. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Hanzo.Hasashi:
Sent from my Desire-KILLER/cracked bootloader@1,5Ghz/16 billion colours,multitouch,coffemachine,abs,esp,bas2,750bhp!!!!wwwwwwooooooohhhhh!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Yea X10 also has 2.3.3 for months now.We are talking about official update. In another thread you said Desire is better because you can overclock it? And now this?? Please read before you post. Desire also has bugs on custom roms so has X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] geordie 34:
can i just say i am new to the xperia phone and I have used the desire have t say this thing rocks the feel the build and the camera is awsome, i know that there are more developers around doing more stuff for the desire, you owners just wait for gingerbread to come available and htc lock that bootloader of yours and the only way to s-off the bootloader is to buy a rather expensive XTC Clip
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
___DELETE___ no intention to start a flame war...
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Ofcourse, insulting them totally proves your point
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
Wow, you Desire fanboys are f*cking pathetic, coming to an XPERIA X10 FORUM and flaming us for PREFERING THE X10.

If you guys had brains you'd realise, since we're on an X10 forum, WE ARE USING X10s, and more likely than not LIKE our device MORE than the other devices, and that is why we chose them and are keeping them.

And then you ridicule X10 fanboys, when you yourself are a Desire fanboy (and are sad enough to be flaming/trolling us on an X10 board). You have come to an X10 forum, what do you expect, SGS2 fanboys?

Have you never been on the internet before?

Now go away.
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
Desire is better due to being overclocked further? Dont make me laugh, clutching at straws is never good. :D

As for display, dont be fooled by a spec sheet, the X10 display quality wise is better and has far superior sunlight legibility.
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
+100000000 any sane person will understand this.
[XPERIA X10 General] Lovrium:
2.3 from HTC ...... ahhhm .... No!

Well, as today announced the Desire will not get a 2.3 update from HTC!

So having a HTC with Sense is not always a real goody! :p

Never though I would say that, but I´m really happy I choose

the X10 instead a HTC!
[XPERIA X10 General] blackout19:
HTC pulls a 180, now says Gingerbread is coming to Desire

engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-pulls-a-180-now-says-gingerbreads-coming-to-desire
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
...and there we were, thinking that SE was the company that changed its mind about updates and policies so often! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] amtzone:
+100

agree with u....i read all his post keep flaming people....hope mod see this...

come to x10 forum say something like that....:mad::mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
HTC changed their mind!

HTC now to give Desire 2.3: http://is.gd/oM4DZI regardless, the update will come later than the X10's and i wonder how it will be quality wise if they have to squeeze it in that 512mb ROM.
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
You've been nothing but a douche.

Everyone has their own opinion. You can't change it. Style and camera are big factors for some people, and affect their decisions. Deal with it. Not everyone goes for raw power. The X10 is a great looking phone and has a great camera, and the modding community, although not as robust as the Desire's, is still good.

If both have good points then there's no need to flame people about their views.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
haha, this kinda makes me laugh, all those people that bought the Desire instead of our maybe faster and for sure greater x10 :p! Im sure their ROM will be crap.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Does the desire have the newest Sense? No. Does it get it? No. Just admit your stupid man.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Your very stupid, Sense 3.0 is the HTC Sense on the newest devices from HTC with that new lockscreen. Just like the HTC Sensation.

Comon another fact you're stupid. Just admit it OK?
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Anyone here that can tell him that the Sense on Gingerbread for the Desire is NOT Sense 3.0? You're damn stupid buddy.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Dude you have been bringing hell with your smart candy ass comments

and your complete lack of understanding and your comments are mostly there to offend.

You have already broken several XDA rules.

This site is for development it's not here for your joy to abuse.

Go brag and compare your devices with other people that care.

THIS IS X10,XDA!!!!!

Take your desire and go desire in a desirable thread.. hopefully far away from us.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
XD, he won't get in those forums to post because he will get banned for sure.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Official update for the desire? WRONG WRONG WRONG. Custom ROMS are NO official updates for a device dad.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Ok daddy.

Prove it. WAIT! You can't. Go play somewhere else...
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Thanks for confirming you're stupid daddy. Now gtfo.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Just please go away...
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Even Desire HD won't get official sense 3.0 forget about Desire..

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-sen...er-devices-but-they-will-get-pieces-20110414/

http://pocketnow.com/android/will-current-htc-devices-get-sense-30

http://www.htcdesiresforum.com/htc-...l-receive-the-htc-sense-3-0-in-the-next-week/
[XPERIA X10 General] GojiTronix:
Wow 7 pages of people calling each other morons because of the type of phone we prefer....who cares, I got news for you, its a phone it does smart things, woooooo
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
True :D I was reading this when all this took place: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/smartphone
[XPERIA X10 General] GojiTronix:
Haha that's awesome, anyone who has posted in this thread needs to check that out. Priceless
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
user dtfs was banned today. because i worked out it was fiscidtox
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Ah thanks you did, I pmmed Mr. Clown about it. I knew it man :)! (Don't forget the off-topic posts buddy, I know it's much work but you get appreciation!)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Why am i not shocked.
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Omegared wow fiscidtox multiple accounts lolol
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I remember saying that ages ago.

Ironic how i was right.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
pppsssttt he regged the dtfs account yesterday after he was banned. therefore he had one account then another. not multiple accounts
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Or did he ....... jk
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
This is my answer to all those who ask why the inspire/desire people are in the x10 forums. I had an x10 and I got used to the people in this forum. I also like to see what's new and what not. I don't come here and say how much better I am than you, just state my opinion and move on. Even though I don't have my x10 anymore, I still like to see the latest updates. This is the x10 family, and we're all part of it, even though we moved on.
[XPERIA X10 General] kalfou:
Lol guys don't take it too seriously, just a little banter, the reason I'm here is my Gf has an x10 and I like to keep her up to date on her piece of crud tech lol

Sent from the Aids ridden slums of China using the claw of an unborn rat
[XPERIA X10 General] kalfou:
Plus I like the guys here on x10, you pretty funny and alright, don't go over to xoom though seriously those guys are 80 year olds who never heard of smiling... guess that's what happens when you get ripped off $700 lololol

Sent from the Aids ridden slums of China using the claw of an unborn rat
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
*goes to xoom forum*

oh my lawds...
[XPERIA X10 General] gregeberts:
What specifically makes the POS desire any better than the X10?
[XPERIA X10 General] zmbutt:
LOL, HTC Change their mind, just like Sony, they are going to Update the Desire to Gingerbread 2.3

Complete Article

and At GSMArena ...

HTC Takes its words back..
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
Unfortunetly the Desire's update comes with some compromises: http://is.gd/7GbRnw
[XPERIA X10 General] Hanzo.Hasashi:
Hehe,that's what I call big HTC flop!

Sent from my HTC Desire with no sense 3.0 and no Gingerbread!Suddenly Sony rules!!
[XPERIA X10 General] zmbutt:
I don't think, its a big deal,

Don't we get 2.3 with compromises too ?

No Soney Cam Application for 8 MP cam !
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Maybe in the final release we will get the SE camera app.

I really wish we do, I hate everything about android stock camera... :(
[XPERIA X10 General] kantk20111:
There's rumors that the 2.1 SE Camera will be ported to 2.3, which for me is good enough :)
[XPERIA X10 General] coolfx35:
I thought HTC just changed their minds, htc desire s will be getting the HTC sense 3.0
[XPERIA X10 General] hemo1001:
I used 5 smartphones from HTC and they all sucks... but it were windows mobile....known issues for HTC is : battery drain .. poor build quality .... bad camera ... weak reciption (signal) ...and it's all hardware problems
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydroidonic:
So I've been flashing various roms, kernels, and radios onto my Nexus S since the release. I've never read to deeply into the exact procedure for flashing these items.

I know you are suppose to wipe device, cache, davik, ect. But then are you suppose to flash the rom, reboot the device, and then flash the kernel and radio?

What if you wiped the device and just flashed a rom without a kernel? Does the kernel you have previously take into effect or is it built into the rom?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] housry23:
No, Roms come with a kernel. If you don't flash a kernel you will have whatever kernel the developer uses in his/her Rom.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
Wha? Not all ROM's come with kernels... if you flash one that does not have a kernel then you will be left with what you had before (stock).
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
As you can see in the title, this thread i just created to collect some more info on gingerlol.

So how are you liking it?

What problems you faced while flashing?

What are the problems in going back to other roms?

What do you think of baseband issue? Will lg stick to this baseband?

If lg sticks to this baseband, will we get stuck with only roms that support similar baseband(untill we use kidz)?

As for myself, i am currently on gingerlol 1.2. I am feeling Performance is ok but not as good as 2.2 and 2.3 custom roms. I also miss oc, cm parts and themes. Neocore best for me was 37. Quadrant was also not very good.

What is your take on questions put up above?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
Reserved For later use.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
Seems very few have tried it.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] doktornotor:
Read the original androidworld.it thread (Google Translated). A couple of hours of reading ahead. :ú
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Bytecode:
Google translate is a fail,ask me whatever you want and I'll translate it for y'all.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] doktornotor:
Well, I certainly will not translate 150+ pages...:p Actually, not that bad for ITA -> ENG. I have seen way worse GTs for other languages. :D
[Defy Android Development] dew.man:
In the OC boot menu...

What is it for? Does it need to be enabled along with the Status checkbox?
[Defy Android Development] antony.ps:
No, isn't needed. I don't know what's this option for, but thinking in linux kernel I think is something to load all cpu governors modules and any other module related to cpu freq section of kernel (you can find these options in Power Management section of linux source code)
[HTC Sensation] latteladyla:
Has anyone else had this issue? In stock Gingerbread I simply added all the calendars I wanted synced & visible (it was a toggle eye) to view them on my N1. Is Sense causing the viewing problem, as I can't see my other "shared" calendars. I had to go to accounts & add the Google account, just to sync & view the calendar. I know this isn't right, I shouldn't have to do that!

Encountered the issue? Find a cleaner workaround you can share?
[Desire HD General] guinnes.s:
Is anyone unhappy about the video camera quality recording on sense gingerbread Roms?
[Desire HD General] AndriodLover:
Everyone is unhappy with the dhd recording.
[Desire HD General] vious21:
Actually, I think my DHD gives an amazing result with video recording than pretty much any other smartphone I've seen. Sure its NOT very easy to get that result, but I'm ok with it as long as I can get a good result.

(My DHD is 2 month old and is not rooted as yet)
[Desire HD General] guinnes.s:
Would a card on his way out create problems like lag?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] profi48:
Hello all,

since I'm not allowed to post a reply in the thread where it would belong (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=604140), I'm forced to open a new thread in another forum which I have access to. Sorry.

The patch provided in the above thread did not work for me. Instead it made things worse in that the program now occupies only quarter of the screen. Probably autoscaling has been disabled when compiling. So, by help of the provided source in the first post but lacking a development environment I identified the interesting constants in the binary and patched the executable, and when that worked, the CAB (luckily, the executable is there uncompressed albeit not in one continuous chunk). The patch makes Noterrific work on QWVGA (240x400) and, through autoscaling, on WVGA. I have tested it on HTC HD and HD2.

Only for those who are interested: The interesting parts in the code are the function ResizeWindow in NoteView.vb and the Size constants for TabControl1 and ProgramTab in PrefWin.vb. The load instructions are 0x20 (for 32 bit integers) and 0x1F (for 8 bit signed integers), the constants are little endian. We have to distribute 80 (0x50) more pixels vertically, so the full height of the note view changes from 260 (0x04 0x01) to 340 (0x54 0x01). In the split view I have distributed the 0x50 pixels as 0x18/0x38. So the other constants 80, 88, 180, 188, 268, 270 and 244 change accordingly. The code layout is straightfdorward, and you can find the constants in the order they are in the VB sources. EDh makes a great job for this!

BTW, if anyone has problems loading .ntn files on his new device, the problem might be the decimal separator in the version attribute of the file. I had "0.5" there, but on my new device it had to be "0,5"!

Hope you like the patch!

Cheers

profi48
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] nibras_reeza:
AS WITH ANY MODDING PROCEDURE/SCRIPTS FOR YOUR PHONE, THIS SCIPT ALSO COMES WITH NO WARRANTY. AUTHOR HOLDS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT AND INDIRECT CONSEQUENCES OF RUNNING THIS SCRIPT. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MADE A NAND BACKUP BEFORE PROCEEDING. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AT LEAST 15% FREE ON /SYSTEM, THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU RUN OUT OF SPACE THINGS WILL GO BADLY WRONG..

Requires busybox.

If your system partition is almost full, have a look at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734236.

This script will *attempt* to odex all apks found at /system/app. Theming would be impossible once the ROM is odexed. Themes applied at the time of odexing will be preserved. If you plan on applying a theme, apply it before odexing. If you want to theme after odexing, you must deodex the ROM before theming. If you change themes often, odexing is not for you.

Quick Instructions for Windows:

Connect the phone with USB cable and enable USB debugging. (No wireless or Android Terminal shell)

Put the phone in airplane mode.

Download and extract the attached file and run odex.bat

Instructions for advanced users:

This attachment contains a folder called odex. Push that folder to data and set the permission of odex.sh to 4755. Mount system as r/w(could be done via adb remount system). Next, execute odex.sh. All of this should be done via USB using ADB shell. Do not use wireless adb or Android Terminal.

Advantages:

More free space in system partition.

Faster booting.

More free RAM(I was able to gain 20-30MB.)

Faster access to system apps.

Disadvantages:

Cannot be themed after odexing.

APK tweaks cannot be applied.

Might break some of the non-AOSP system apps such as Root Explorer if they are installed as system app.

Acknowledgments:

Only the odex.bat was created by me. Similar projects were done in past but most of the downloads are broken. So, I collected together different stuff from different places to put together this package.

adb.exe is from the RATC batch ROOT.

adb dlls are from Android SDK

odex.sh is from Paul O Brian from MoDaCo (pastebin.com/EZLWUdea)

zip, zipalign and dexopt-wrapper are from XDA (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734236)

Next aim: Odex for apps in data/app

Update:

I got 1017 on quadrant and 61.8fps on swiftdroid 2.0 M6 overclocked to 844MHz(offline mode with wifi on. No apps except system apps). It must be noted that sometimes odexed ROM performs slightly slower in benchmarks but the difference is very small. However, this does not mean their performance is lower. Odex means apps could load fast thereby making app switching, app loading really fast. And, it also reduces system RAM usage which means more apps could stay in memory making multi-tasking easier. Odexing is something like swap or compcache. Sacrifice something to gain something else. This is for some people who think odexing is useless. The drop in speed is so small that it cannot be noticed without a benchmark but the performance of the phone increases noticeably due to more space in dalvik and RAM. :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] tweakradje:
Nice work.

Few remarks.

1) you need busybox installed for find

2) "busybox --install" defaults to /usr/bin (not available on android)

use "busybox --install ." when you cat-ed it to /system/xbin ;)

Something seems not OK though with the odex.sh script?

Unable to create './Contacts.odex': File exists
zip warning: name not matched: classes.dex

zip error: Nothing to do! (./Contacts.apk)
Unable to open './Contacts.apk' as zip archive
failed on './Contacts.apk.new' - No such file or directory
Unable to create './VoiceSearch.odex': Permission denied
Unable to create './Music.odex': File exists
zip warning: name not matched: classes.dex

Cheers
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] nibras_reeza:
Hmm, sorry, I just started to assume busybox is default since the two ROMs of concern(Joe's. Gingerbread and swiftdroid) had busybox.

Those apks are already odexed. You are on a partially odexed rom. Nothing to worry.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] eoghan2t7:
i just applied a cm7 theme and the rom is still stable and the theme was applied after running the batch file
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] nibras_reeza:
That depends on the theme. A theme that modifies odexed system apks will break things while an apk that modifies only the unodexed system apks will work. So, for most users, it would be safer to say that you shouldn't apply themes.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] nibras_reeza:
First post has been updated.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mikegapinski:
if you want to get even more ram odex your framework ... On my froyo with odexed framework i got 123mb ram with stock autokiller values :) This is only odexing system/app so you are able to theme your framework without problems ...
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] nibras_reeza:
I will try that. I was trying to odex data/apps. I odexed quadrant apk and saw a small gain of around 1% but it could be purely due to error or differences in conditions.

Framework isn't odexed doesn't mean all themes would work. Some themes modify other apks for more customizations. So, if you apply such a theme, it will break things. Better be safe than sorry. Saying that most themes would work, people might try to flash all themes thinking it won't break anything. It's just safer to deodex before theming. Of course, if you know what theme modify only framework and what theme modifies other apks, this shouldn't be a concern.

Update: odexing framework apk has reduced free memory to 60MB from previous 75MB
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] lukemovement1:
Might try add this into my app Root Toolbox if that's ok?