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[Captivate Android Development] Kenn Lynch:
What are these "slots" I keep see being refered to?

I'm running 4.5.3 but in an a semi-critical situation away from home without a jig

Dieing to upgrade to GB and 5 b2 but the unclarity of the steps has kept me from doing so. I've never had a problem update with DG's Cogs so maybe

I'm overthinking it.

But ever since the "term boot loaders" has mysteriously entered the threads

I've been in water over my head. I guess i've gotten spoiled by painlessly

doing every thing via CWM.

But what are people talking about by "slots"?

"Kernels go in the PDA slot; Modems go in the Phone slot."

Its not obvious to me at all but perhaps it is if you are actually running ODIN

at the time?

On another level

I'm getting the impression I can just upgrade these "boot loaders"

by the 1st step and keep running 4.5.3? or is it an "all or nothing" upgrade?

I'd feel on more solid ground if I could take it step by step

I could certainly could report difficulties better

but if thats not the case so be it. It's probably not as bad as it seems

I Hate to admit it but after all the "spoon feeding" I'm still reluctant to

attempt the upgrade, but things move so fast here beta 3 will probably be out

tomorrow (and it will be somehow dependant on 1 and 2 etc)

Sorry, just starting to feel like I'm choaking in yall's dust <BG>

("Roseann Rodanadana" for the older)

Any help appreciated

Thanks

KJL
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
Last I checked tljl3 is an i897 modem. And it works just as well (or crappy if you will) as the one that came with the rom.

What should happen if its not? Because I'm on 3g right now.

Edit, just checked, it says t959. Not sure what that means. But in either case my original question was not answered, where is hsDpa?
[Captivate Android Development] sparker366:
Ok I too am a bit confused with the steps. I am on fusion right now.

I know how to flash with Odin and what files should go where in Odin but am confused as to what files I need where to get them and what order to flash

Can someone post a blow by blow account of what they did to put their phone on to Cog5 B2 say coming from a non Cog rom

I understand to flash from cwm recovery the cog5 b2 zip but the steps before that for the kernel and the gb stock don't make sense. Nor how to find the correct kernel and flash it?

People are refering to the SGS tool to flash the kernel. If I flash that kernel on top of my fusion won't it screw things up? If I flash to stock GB as with the first step is there SGS Tools in there to find the correct kernel to flash and go from there.

It's just confusing is all. I am not a novice at flashing
[Captivate Android Development] simple man:
: ) EXCELLENT WORK D.G.!!!!! : )

I really like the high performance, stable rom, with the stock look.	The battery life is amazing, I've never had my phone stay at 100% for over 80 minutes after pulling it off the charger. It was cool to have a fully charged phone for a change ,I think the charge bug is non-existent on this rom.

Thanks for all you've done for the Captivate community, please don't stop. ; )

Sent from a Galaxy far...far...away...
[Captivate Android Development] daverup:
t959 means that it's for the Vibrant.

hsDpa is what the stock Cog5b2 provides. AT&T decided the 3G icon should cover that too.

Modem swapping on Cog5b2 is limited and probably not worth trying. This is not like the i9000 in that regard.

The stock modem although not hsUpa, works pretty well for most. It's just not that fast.
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
Themes?

Does anyone have any input into themes for Cog5? Might other GB themes work, or would they mess with my zen thing?

You know that a beta is rock solid when people start asking about themes....
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
Unfortunately less than 0.5mbps down doesn't qualify as good enough. In fact that isn't even 3g.Testing ke3 now, showing some better life. I'll test it for the day to see how it goes.
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
I had this problem on another ROM with super slow downloads and a reflash fixed it for me.
[Captivate Android Development] ScottyNuttz:
I found that the Samsung Email program was running even though I never used it. Uninstalled it with TB. Just one small way to get better battery life. I've found battery life to be better than Cog. 4.X, but worse than, say, Continuum 5.
[Captivate Android Development] snowake:
By newer board, was the entire mobo replaced? I have never had good gps since I purchased this a week after release. No matter what modem or rom. Would be good to get a working modem/gps chipset.
[Captivate Android Development] Red_81:
I don't know exactly what was replaced in the refurb units but I imagine is was the whole motherboard. I do know my GPS has been working great since the replacement. I tested it on both stock 2.1 and Cog4
[Captivate Android Development] snowake:
I reflashed after wipe and then tibu. Still having some odd errors where login info doesn't save, flash fails to work at random on sites it worked on minutes before, etc. Noticed if I uninstalled and reinstalled from market issues went away. However, if I uninstall and re-Tibu it is messed up again. I upgraded from beta1, so issue is unrelated to GB/rom switch. Any ideas?
[Captivate Android Development] nelsonw:
when u did the change? I must replace mine and want to know if they're sill replacing them. thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] dmuntean:
I'm coming from CM7. Once I install this rom can I restore apps & system data? Or do I just do apps & app data?
[Captivate Android Development] joeybear23:
Yes, the speed you get with a modem not designed for a stock captivate ROM will not be good enough. If you want to get high download speeds, you must have HSUPA enabled, which you would know if you had done your research (and yes I know HSUPA is referring to UPLOAD transfer). An I9000 ROM with HSUPA enabled will give you higher download speeds for several reasons given all over these boards.

FYI - you seriously should consider doing more research before you brick your phone.
[Captivate Android Development] jlsesler:
From what I understand, it is never recommended to restore your system data.
[Captivate Android Development] Red_81:
It was about a month ago. They should still replace them as long as your device falls within the build date range.

Here is the post that explains it.
[Captivate Android Development] :
Correct. Apps + data is fine... system data should never be restored.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Anyone know of any good free or paid Call Recording Apps that will work with this Native Cappy Build?
[Captivate Android Development] wgarrido:
By the time you get to the kernel step you are already running the leaked build. Read the step over carefully a few times. I did and I got it installed.
[Captivate Android Development] maydre:
How do you get touchwiz 4 on this?
[Captivate Android Development] rjayflo:
Thanks for the help....my Captivate is back.
[Captivate Android Development] Donmotobike:
Cog 5 Beta 1 copy

I'm odin nutty - anyone know where I can get copy of Cognition 5 Beta 1? Thanks!;)
[Captivate Android Development] shane87:
Actually, if you had done your research, 500kbps (0.5mbps) DOES qualify as 3G service. To qualify as 3G service, peak transfer rates must be 200kbps or higher, which means even Edge service qualifies as 3G. This info comes directly from the IMT-2000 specifications published by the ITU (International Telecomunications Union).

Sorry for the off topic post, I just can't resist putting my two cents in!!
[Captivate Android Development] crt60:
I'm somewhat confused as well, first you flash I897UCKF1, then flash the beta 2 kernel, then what, how do you get clockwork mod recovery on the phone, is it included in the b2 kernel and I can just boot into it?
[Captivate Android Development] maydre:
Anyone know how to get touchwiz 4 for this rom
[Captivate Android Development] Tritan88:
Yes beta2 has cmw in it. after flashing kernel boot to cmw and flash Rom.
[Captivate Android Development] ninjuh:
How is this compared to s7? Or cm7?
[Captivate Android Development] kinubic:
anyone tried difrnt modems? havnt tried yet lol no time! hahahah
[Captivate Android Development] BigBen:
Thanks for that information Dave. It explains why I have hit up to 3 Mbps download speeds (not always, depends on time of day and location), when the symbol in the notification bar only shows 3G.
[Captivate Android Development] glwilliams4:
It is included in the Beta 2 kernel, so after you've flashed the kernel and restarted the phone, hold the power button to get the power options, and then choose "recovery". This will reboot you into the CWM recovery menu. Make sure the Beta 2 zip is on your phone before you do this though. The in CWM just go to install zip from sd and navigate to where you stored it.
[Captivate Android Development] whyareyou:
Compared to CM7 this is a bit laggy, but much better battery life and everything just works, camera, video, audio, headset controls, bluetooth etc.

Never tried S7
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
Please tell me in your expert opinion, does the modem that came packaged with this rom work with i897 kernels? Because that's where the significantly slower download speeds started (less that 500kpbs down). Also I understand that having hsUpa enabled allows for faster downloads because of faster ack statements being sent back to the remote server, but does that really account for an order of magnitude at best, and worst only 100% decrease? A five year old feature phone would run circles around this thing right now in a download test.

And just for reference, if you don't know the answer to these questions, please don't both responding with dismissive "you should consider doing more research". This is me doing more research, I am asking people who hopefully know more than I do why something is not working as advertised or anywhere near it. I could break 1mbps with stock froyo. Why not with "stock" gingerbread?
[Captivate Android Development] mattern1974:
Has anyone noticed the Contacts.apk that is included with this ROM does not give the option to Import from SIM Card?

Just in case anyone wants to know, I fixed that by overwriting the Contact.apk with the one from Apex 7.

I tried the same with the Vending.apk so I could get back the "My Apps" link in the Market instead of the ROM's "AT&T" link. For some reason it still kept the "AT&T" link.

This ROM is mostly smooth and I love the use of the audience chip for calls but I do miss some of the speed of Continuum, Apex, Simply GSII and my custom JVO.
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
Thanks for the info. I remember that they didn't include "h" as a notification now. I would love to see 3mbps down now, heck even 2 or 1.

using ke3 now, hopefully that will work. Or I'll reflash, though I am loathe to do that.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
This is a Native Captivate ROM and in being so you give up higher data speeds but gain the hardware benefits of the Captivate such as clearer and louder audio and most of all for me, consistency and stability in an early version.

Can't speak to CM7 although that is the furthest you can get from any Samsung ROM so I would guess there are a lot of work rounds and bugs to deal with in development. Lots of Beta testers are key to the success for that ROM.

A common and well documented issue with ROMs based on the i9000 GB bootloaders seem to suffer from a specific charging issue which can be random depending on nothing in particular. I have had the issue and not had the issue on most of the major i9000 ROMs I tried. Even the same ones flashed over again would either eliminate the issue or bring it back. inconsistancy is the name of the game for i9000 ROMS right now.

That is the problem I have had and still read with the i9000 ROMS. Then there are those having device specific bugs making it tough for the developers to "fix" things. There are a few universal issues. Too many smaller phone specific bugs for my stability needs.

I do miss the themes and yes they can be smoother with more flashy bells and whistles but I think the overall GB development at this stage, for me anyway leads to the stability of a ROM based on the phone I have until the GB ROMs and especially kernels are more mature on the i9000 base.

This ROM and I am guessing the other KF1 ROMs have eliminated some issues that were common such as the charging issue and the slow increase of lag as the days go by on some i9000 ROMS.

So you give up some performance, eye candy and advanced features in favor of consistency and better calling audio quality while enjoying some of what GB brings to the table

CM7 is a whole other world. I am not interested in. I don't mind Samsung's presence on my phone and look forward to the arrival of the SGS II
[Captivate Android Development] wgarrido:
Is there anyone with Ubuntu/Linux that can test if Auto Usb0 shows up when you plug it in?

Anyone tried VPN yet?
[Captivate Android Development] BigBen:
LMAO, ha, ha. A valid response on your part, Zarathustra. (Say hello to Herr Nietzsche if you see him.) If you only get .5 Mbps, you are right to question your it, in spite of not having "done your research," tch, tch.

The last two lines in your post are the operative question. No research is necessary for you to conclude that you are coming up short compared to your Froyo experience.

If you see my post just a few posts back you will see that faster speeds are possible with this ROM, in spite of "expert" opinions about HSUPA, HSDPA, (or SNAFU or FUBAR) for that matter. My d/l speed of up to 3 Mbps + can only be explained by Dave's post, which I quoted, suggesting that this ROM can in fact produce speeds more like what we were used to seeing on I9000 GB ROMs or even Froyo.

Try a reflash of the ROM to see if that helps. I don't think you need to put up with constant speeds of .5 Mbps. Keep in mind, too, that those speeds will vary a lot depending on time of day, traffic your tower is seeing, etc.

Ben
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
Thanks, I just wanted to know its possible. Unfortunately the modems sticky's op hasn't really been updated with i897 modems.

Just as an aside, why couldnt i use cwm3 zipped modems with this? It's an "edify" script, and so far twice its worked without a hitch. Am i missing something?

I'll use odin if absolutely necessary, just curious.
[Captivate Android Development] nelsonw:
Didn't tested. But you can try:

TW Launcher 4.5
[Captivate Android Development] rabi347:
Using it and is running great so far. Haven't come across any issues.
[Captivate Android Development] maydre:
Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] maydre:
Did you install as zip or apk?
[Captivate Android Development] BigBen:
Please go back to sometime yesterday afternoon in this thread and you will see my experience with the CWM3 modems. Didn't work. The one I tried to install was "amend" according to CWM during the install attempt, and CWM would not install it. My adventure trying to flash the modem caused some weird problems, so I suggest you avoid trying to install them with CWM.

There is another post yesterday from someone naming the Captivate modems that we could use. They were KB1 and KE3. A couple of guys posted and suggested taking the modem.bin from the .zip and pushing with Odin (put the .bin in the Phone slot). PIA, but that's how it has to be done I guess, until someone repackages them for CWM4 or at least with an Edify script.

As someone wrote earlier today, not sure it's worth it to mess around with modems on this ROM. (That said, I will probably do it anyway. No time at the moment, though.)

P.S. I am referring to the modems in the sticky at the top of this forum. They are available by clicking on the paper clip (attachments) to the right of the thread's listing.
[Captivate Android Development] bigsmitty64:
Wondering also, just tried the zip method but failed.

Sent from this thing in my hands
[Captivate Android Development] bames:
did notice something regarding the puzzle lock screen some are seeing.

I normally have the glass lockscreen, however, it seems that when i have a missed call or text while phone is locked when reopening it i have the puzzle lockscreen which is fine with me as it allows you to open straight to the call or msg.
[Captivate Android Development] nelsonw:
+1 10chars
[Captivate Android Development] rabi347:
I unzipped the .zip file, copied the three files samsungwidget_programMonitor.apk, shareapp.apk and touchwizlauncher.apk to system/app and libcanvas.so to system/lib.

before that, I had to move the existing touchwizlauncher.apk to another directory.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Thanks DG for your hard work and time in this. Much appreciated. :D

Installed this ROM way early this past a.m. via the steps in the OP. Was previously running Mosaic IV. The install went flawlessly.

As for the modem issues, I tested KB1, KE3, and KF1 this morning. Mind u, that I am in a rural area and was on WCDMA 850 Band 5 at the time of these tests, but thought I would share anyway, just as a friendly fyi.

I'm sure that speeds would b better (especially the upload) if I were to b on WCDMA 1900 Band 2...sooooo, here ya go. And by the way, the number of bars that are seen in the pics are reflective of when I was inside my home and took these pics with the "shoot me" app. When I did these tests I averaged 4 bars and around -89 dBm signal strength...+ or - some I'm sure... Pics, in order from left to right, are KB1, KE3, then KF1

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[Captivate Android Development] byrdtulsa:
Where do i find cog app installer
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
Tried it, doesn't show up for me either.

Usually you would go into wireless network settings and check the "Tether" checkbox and it would work....not working on cog 5.2 though...
[Captivate Android Development] Donmotobike:
battery drain 2.3%-3.9% without wifi

;) wait its 2.4%-3.96% battery drain ma bad lol:D
[Captivate Android Development] maydre:
I just flashed the tw fix zip through cm and its working perfect
[Captivate Android Development] abezapata:
Thats what the stock samsung lockscreen does by default. Most roms on xda split the feature because it adds diversity to the lockscreens they offer.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Should be in ur app drawer...see attatched pic below
[Captivate Android Development] richsale:
Yep, I have the same thing. I kind of like it for the same reason.
[Captivate Android Development] BigBen:
Your post is a helpful contribution to the thread. Thanks. Wow, your upload speeds are slow, eh?

Couple of questions: Did you push the modem.bin via Odin to install these modems?

And why do you say that WCDMA 1900 band 2 wouuld be faster? I am not real clear on the differences in performance of the different bands. WCDMA 850 is generally more prevalent in rural areas, I believe, and 1900 in urban zones, right? (More transmission distance on the lower freq and more capacity, less distance on the higher one. Something like that?)

But I don't know about performance differences. I don't see any when I run speed tests, at least.

Thanks again.
[Captivate Android Development] streetsmart999:
If I have Captivate GB bootloaders , Can I skip to step 2 and then 3. Or is it a must to go thru step 1.

Currently on Apex 7.1 with Captivate GB bootloaders (From Icezar).

Thanks in advance.
[Captivate Android Development] morehush:
Sorry, my bad, didn't look at the steps before responding. You need to flash the full cognition before flashing the update, so start at step one.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Glad it was helpful.

And yes I used Odin to install the modem.bin(s)

The uploads were really bad. Not sure why. Just the reception I guess. And I'm sure many other factors that are beyond me, because I am by no means an expert on any of this modem science. And as far as better speeds on the 1900...that is just what I've noticed when I've been in the more urban areas...

Thanks for ur positive feedback.

Maybe I will post some more results (at least on the KF1 modem that I am using) when I go to town later and run a few speed tests.
[Captivate Android Development] streetsmart999:
Thanks for the response. + Does the rom has Touchwiz (guessing yes)? If yes.. does it defaults to screen 1 Or Center or does it have Preferences?
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Couldn't have said that any better!
[Captivate Android Development] byrdtulsa:
Does this rome have the tw widgets like buddie now and news and feeds
[Captivate Android Development] morehush:
It has touchwiz, not sure which version. I don't really use it, but I know it defaults to center as the home and not sure if it has preferences.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Nope...at&t bloat was removed.
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
I've installed two modems via cwm with no issues. Tl3 and ke3, no errors in cwm and other than dl issues no problems in android.
[Captivate Android Development] Zero4:
Well...I just caught up reading the whole tread, and I don't remember seeing this, but does anyone know how I can determine which bootloader is currently installed on my Cappy?

I saw that if you upgraded to Froyo via Keis, it should be the same as the Gingerbread one, but I'm curious a) if i can determine it, and b) which one is currently installed on my phone.

Thanks for the help, getting excited to flash 2.3.3 to my phone in the near future. Most likely when beta 3/Cog5 is officially released.
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
Just wanted to throw this out: I lost 2% overnight. Insane. 1 day and 4 hours on, almost 2 hours of screen on time, wifi on a lot of the time, GPS most of the time, and a lot of playing around with GPS, maps, etc. 18% left!
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
What ROM are you running? That would tell you what bootloaders you have. If you're running Eclair/Froyo, you have Froyo bootloaders. If you installed i9000 GB, you have i9000 GB bootloaders. If you have CM7/MIUI and followed the instructions, you have Froyo bootloaders. So if you upgraded to Froyo via Keis, then you have Froyo bootloaders.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
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The other thing I think plagues the i9000 ROMs for me at the moment is some developers are trying too hard for performance before they have a stable base ROM....then it becomes a kernal/ROM fight. LOL.

That's what I like about DG's early ROMS. They appear anyway to focus on stability and fundamentals working. Before performance attempts via kernals are enhanced in any meaningful manner.

At some point there becomes stability across the Development board and base choices and that's when the fun really begins with theming your favorite flava of the week. When ROMS are flashed for aesthetic reasons more than because of performance issues or running from one bug to another choosing the best of all evils.
[Captivate Android Development] eccezarathustra:
Download Speeds

here are my screen grabs, these are from my apartment where I have gotten over 5mbps at times, and usually never much below 2.

Also noticing a lot of lag/fc on PvZ. This was definitely not an issue before. FF5 seems laggy, but that may be just FF itself.

Btw, any word on a follow up? cog b3? just like to whet my appetite...
[Captivate Android Development] Zero4:
Duh...I don't know what I was thinking...been a long day, can't wait to get out of work.

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] morehush:
I'm getting really slow speeds, too. Have any other modems been tested? Will other i897 modems still work with the audience chip, or does that having nothing at all to do with the modem?
[Captivate Android Development] jlsesler:
Do you use a wifi fixer app? I also had very slow wifi, but the app eliminated that problem.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
This was what I got this morning...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14975064&postcount=945