yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
Can you please post steps to install CWM without stock recovery? I can't get the menus dwl99 referes to in first post. All I get is an android with a triangle next to it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Sorry a little time poor , try hallokittys method in post 71 and see if that works for you
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Try this. I cannot guarantee it will work or that it won't brick your tablet but it's unlikely to cause any problems. Download the clockworkmod zip from the 1st post. Rename it to update.zip and copy it to the root of your SD card. On your tablet go to Settings -> About phone -> System updates -> Install system update -> From SD card and follow the instructions. That should hopefully install it.

Please confirm if it works & I'll add it to the 1st post.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Same here, rerooted with SuperOneClick, re-installed TB, still not working :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Try factory reset & a clockworkmod wipe of Data & Dalvik cache then re-rooting.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
Hi,

I used method described in post 71 to get cw. The space on device is running low only after 5 apps that can't be moved to sdcard . Would we be able to change that?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
That's yet another problem with this thing we need to figure out. What on earth possessed them to make that so small?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
You can use Titanium Backup Pro to move some apps to the System partition but some of them don't like it. It would be good if we could resize the partitions the same way the ZTE Blade was fixed with TPT. I'm looking into getting a2sd to work but have had no success with darktremor a2sd. Does CM7 have a2sd? Will keep trying!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Clearing the dalvik cache (did it from clockworkmod, advanced > wipe dalvik cache) freed up about 15MB~
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Did a Factory Reset/Data Wipe + Dalvik cache wipe in CWM, rebooted, re-rooted with SuperOneClick (with default psneuter method), rebooted, installed TB + Pro key from market, still only finding 5 items :(

I'm beginning to think there's more than one revision of the shipping firmware out there.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
If someone volunteered to do a Nandroid backup of a clean installation of Gingerbread from their Kogan Tablet then they could zip & upload it. Then you could try a Nandroid restore.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Yes, that would be useful :)

FYI, my build is: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
CM7 uses a modded verion of the google apps2sd - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Apps2SD

the darktremor apps2sd in thier eyes is now apps2ext and is teh old way of doing it.

I just tried simple2ext as a hit and hope as it does say its only useable with CM7 but no joy.

Are you using a microsd for the ext partition btw as even though the 4gb internal does seem to be referenced as the sdcard in teh system its not recognised as such by CMW recovery (at least on my device)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Aha! Switched TB to use system version of busybox and voila, it now find 76 items :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
@berwhale good catch
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
I have managed to kill the screen on my Kogan, forgot to uncheck Auto-Recalibrate. Did anyone found a solution to get it back? I have clockwork on that tablet.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Strange - same build # as mine
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Yes, I used the external microSD card & checked the ext3 partition was properly formatted as ext3 on a Linux machine.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Thanks, you can switch back to the TB BB afterwards and all the items remain.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
You could try reflashing the stock kernel - I uploaded it at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15055449&postcount=245

Just extract the .img file from it & flash that. Good luck!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
How do I use that? There is no option in cwm and it does not accept ur zip file.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thephm:
My tab has screen issues - random phantom touches and distortion of the colour when touching the back of the unit - these seem to be common hardware issues but that is more for a different thread. Since I'm going to be asking for a replacement I can't play with this stuff yet.

On thing I noticed as others have done is that for a device with 4GB of storage it has an awfully small amount of free space for apps/data compared to my Desire S with only 1.1GB. So either I'm comparing apples and oranges or Kogan have done something very funny with the partition sizes.

So can someone who's rooted their device get the sizes and free space of the partitions for :

Boot

System

Recovery

Data

Cache

Misc

That 4GB has got to have gone somewhere :)

edit : More googling ... can the MTD scripts be used to change the filesystem sizes ? Also does the CM7 rom have friendlier partition sizes ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
i still get a few random screen wakes for weird reason. not sure what it is whenever i plug it in to logcat and view whats happening it wont happen lol..

Funnily enough Skype works now.. maybee it was a skype problem last night because today it signed in fine lol..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
M778 capacitive image is same as 0516 rom for EM73 4K NAND capacitive. (aldiko is added but other parts are same)

if your tab has 8K NAND you should not flash this one.

I'll check resistive image later.

EDIT:

M778 resistive image is almost same as DFP7002A8 2.3.1 image(I got another place)

Linux version 2.6.35.7-tcc (jim@build-165) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #32 Sat Apr 23 04:10:58 CST 2011

MID73_SX_HY2M 20110423

so nothing is new on joyplus ROMs...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I haven't used this method myself but it should work. If not, you would need to find out how to flash the image using adb.

Install Android Commander http://androidcommander.com/

Connect the tablet, adb drivers installed etc, until Android Commander sees the tablet

Click the Phone menu, Flash, Image, recovery.

Select the recovery image you extracted & flash it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Me too, nowhere near as often as before though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
Good to know. It was just something interesting I saw, on the small chance that some other vendors put out better firmware, and "Joyplus" wasn't mentioned anywhere before in the threads.

Yeah, although it didn't in the hour or so I first tested it out, I still get the odd random screen wake. But it's way, way less frequent. Before it was something stupid like every minute.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
I am watching my tablet live over adb and viewing logcat and i swear it calls the wifiservices like once every 10 seconds or something doing

ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED Plugtype:0

not sure what its trying to do here but my wifi never stays awake regardless of what i set as its sleep policy it will always disconnect annoying are you guys getting that for your tablets as well?

2nd thing i notice is the tablet spams the logcat with lines and lines of text everytime you turn on and off the screen with MountServices

i watched my HTC desire over logcat before and its never this Hectic
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I can see this causing a lot of tears, so this is important

Just as a warning, don't plug anything into the USB port that has important data on.

It seems if the USB device is formatted in a file system it doesn't understand, it utterly screws it.

Yeah, that's right. I plugged in an external HDD and it said "now safe to remove".. huh?

Plug it into my PC, and it asks me if I want to format it, filesystem: raw

Did the same thing with a 16GB USB stick I had formatted with exFAT. It doesn't support exFAT, and will just hose your USB stick without any warning.

I didn't lose any data since it was all stuff I had elsewhere, but I can see someone attempting to connect something with unique and precious data and then throwing this thing at a wall
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Unbelievable! :mad: How does it react to FAT32 formatted devices?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
I'd still be a little cautious, but NTFS and FAT32 seem to work OK, which I guess is the most important thing.

But just to say, exFAT most definitely does not, and it will be screwed. This surprises me a bit because exFAT is supposed to be the new standard for interoperability on external devices, as SDXC cards are supposed to be formatted using it. That said, I don't think Android has native support yet - but still, there's no excuse for it messing up the drive..

It can play 1080p video without problems.. I know this doesn't forgive the other issues completely, but damn. I gave it a 9GB file in 1080p and it just played perfectly. The video playback capabilities are too good to lose by going to a ROM without this support..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] geoRG77:
Guys, sorry to be a provocateur here, but why are you discussing Emdoor EM73 tablet as Kogan if its obviously the same device? From what I have read, there isn't any difference neither in HW, nor in SW and Emdoor is the company who produces this tablet for Kogan.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I don't think we were discussing them as if they were the same. AFAIK they are similar but I would never consider flashing any EM73 ROMs onto the Kogan.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] geoRG77:
But the point is that you already have same ROM as EM73. The build number you posted is a proof. Frankly, I don't care, but why to solve things twice if it is same? And there will be for sure more EM73 users as Emdoor is the producer (check your PCB).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
I said kogan agora 7" is same as EM73 and you are using my clockworkmod for EM73...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wlee2:
I think the point is, if the owner is not good at working who made what. They would just know it as the kogan tablet. Eg i thought it was something else innitially and would ended up maybee briking my device. But sine this thread is for the kogan agora tablet it just feels more at home for us that own this named tablet.

Sent from a junk machine

while my screen was still respondddding...... FAIL!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I stand corrected! I thought the comment about not flashing lk.rom meant that they were not interchangeable.

So we can safely flash the EM73 CM7 firmware then?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
if your bootloader has(shows) kogan logo, you'll lost logo when you flash lk.rom for EM73(has green robot logo and 2.3 text). and you'll get different partition layout so you need to reflash other imgs. if you flashed lk.rom and other imgs before you get clockworkmod and backups, you lost kogan's stock rom.

I think kogan agora is same as EM73 but there is minor difference in stock rom.

my CM7 for EM73 should work on kogan agora too. no need to flash lk.rom at this point.

EDIT:

chinese factory often changes hardware and software without notice. so it's hard to say my EM73 is 100% same as your Kogan Agora, and also hard e.g. "EM73 I got yesterday and another EM73 I got today is 100% same", "yesterday Agora and today Agora ..." ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hallokitty:
This is the truth, but older ones may have different software.

To put it simply, we all just got this tablet (probably the same batch), and we were just trying to fix a few problems with it as it as it stands now. Stops clutter in the other threads just about little problems..

Later down the road we will surely be running one custom ROM for this EM73 platform.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
probably most little problems and howtos can be shared among EM73 based tablets :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berwhale:
Agreed! Happy to share the pain & joy of owning Agora/EM73!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
That was why I was wary of flashing another ROM!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
What are the partition sizes for the EM73 ROM?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
"The partition layout on the Kogan is also very inefficient & mine is already full. If I did a CWM factory reset & wipe and flashed the EM73 stock ROM would I end up with different partition sizes?"

+1 on that thought

fwdn mode is power and home i think
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I've been doing some digging about & this is what I

think

the situation is:

1. To flash lk.rom (the bootloader) you need to use FWDN tool. This will change the partition sizes and the splashscreen too.

2. You can then flash EM73-8K-2.3.3 using FWDN tool.

3. It is possible to flash EM73-8K-2.3.3 using clockworkmod and without flashing lk.rom but the partition sizes will be unchanged.

Have I got my facts right? Is there any danger that I might end up with a dead touchscreen by flashing lk.rom? Is there a way to back up the original?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
your kogan agora has 250MB /system and 188MB /data, but my EM73 8K has 200MB /system and 238MB /data.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Thanks - the extra 50MB on the /data partition would make a big difference
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipside101:
Any extra data space is great.

Just a couple of thoughts I've had

1) Is there anyway we can use that 4gb on board for anything and then have the micro sdcard as the actual sdcard rather than having it seemingly mount as a folder on the fake/internal card or would that have a detrimental effect on the ability to connect hdd's etc

2) this seems to be a catch all build (not unexpected) for the telechips 88xx series. I say this as I've seen files relating to dvbt and atsc tuners but the telechips site says these are only available in the 8801 setup so there may be room.for pruning
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
1. yes

2. probably you said about file in http://androtab.info/files/tcc8803/rom/. it was converted rom from 4K rom for 8K.

I removed it and uploaded new 8K file just now. it has lk.rom from 8K rom and img for FWDN from 8K rom (but recovery is clockworkmod).

if you want to use 100% same agora rom with new lk.rom, you need to make img from your backups, or you need to restore your backups after 8K rom flashed.

3. no and yes. that file and now uploaded file are flashed by FWDN. it's possible flashing without lk.rom and yes partition size unchanged.

to enter FWDN, you need to press&hold HOME button while power on.

EDIT: sorry I fixed some word...I'm sleepy...good night
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Thanks, I think I may give this a go. What are the chances of breaking the touchscreen by flashing the lk.rom and is it possible to backup the original?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
no. actually I don't know. I know "FwTool can break it" but I don't know other things which I don't know.

no. I already said you'll lose logo etc. if you'll get problem while flashing lk.rom, you may lose your tablet. if you don't want to lose/change anything, you should not flash lk.rom.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Hmmm, I think I'll wait & see if we can source a backup lk.rom. Anyone brave enough to be the first to try it? ;)

Link to fun_'s howto for FWDN http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14237828&postcount=2 (scroll down to * How to use FWDN)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
Using stock recovery image did not bring back the screen. It is not responding. I guess I just have to wait till someone figures out what can be done to fix it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
of course I already flashed that lk.rom in that zip on my site before upload.

probably it may not help you but I think if another person flash it & work fine on his tablet, it also may not help you too...

by the way why you point copy of my howtos?

I think you already saw same howtos on my site/thread. I'm just wondering. I don't say "don't use copy" because it's generally same, but that howtos have links for another tablet so I should say "do not use"...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
please explain what happen when try to boot recovery?

(press & hold BACK while POWER ON and keep several seconds)

nothing is displayed?

stopped at 1st boot logo with "fastboot mode" text?

passed 1st boot logo and stopped at ! mark?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kunnlan:
+1 this

i plug my ntfs formatted hdd with thousand of media files (pictures, movies)

at first it tries to scan the whole thing forever, so i added .nomedia to the root folder

the next time i plug it to my pc, all that media files are gone .. kaput .. zip .. nada

lucky i have a copy somewhere else, or else i will miss the whole 6 months of my baby life captured in it

so .. beware
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jamesgid:
New device, got it this morning, no longer booting!! OUCH

Hi All,

So, my new Kogan Agora tablet arrived this morning. And here is what happened.

1. Turned on, added my work wireless network and connected fine. Opened Market, signed in, the market would open but not display anything.

2. Restarted device, opened market and this time it asked that 'I Accept' terms, which I did. Market now displays items, but when I try to install it says, Market Download Unsuccessful. WTF.

3. Ignored this error, rooted device and applied clockwork mod recovery, which worked flawlessly. Then installed the root explorer app from market (which strangely worked). Then renamed the phone related APK's to stop device turning on.

4. Still having issues with market which is really annoying me at this stage. Reboot into clockwork, backup device, then factory reset.

5. Boot after factory reset ok. Go to wireless setting, join to my work wireless (which it sees) but then will not connect to it. It just says searching, then connecting, then back to searching.

6. Rebooted into clockwork, restored image, same thing, no wireless connection (when it worked before).

7. Rebooted into clockwork, started wiping all the cache, boot, sd-ext etc etc (out of frustration, and have done this on my HTC Desire before).

8. BUT NOW - device will only display the Kogan boot screen, nothing else.

I have obviously deleted something I should not have. I have reapplied the original recovery that was posted here. Unfortunately, I also formatted my SD card which had the clockwork generated backup on it.

So now what?? Can anyone post a complete nandroid backup of the device at stock? Or is there a custom rom I can apply to the device.

I am really stuck at the moment and would really like some help. PLEASE!!

Thanks all (in advance)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes - I had no idea that the site I linked to was a copy of your work and I hadn't noticed a FWDN howto on your website. I'll edit the post accordingly - can you give me the link to your original version, I cannot see it on the http://androtab.info site.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Would flashing the lk.rom and EM73 ROM on fun_'s website be worth a go? You could be our guinea-pig for flashing the EM73 lk.rom!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
ah, no need to say sorry. but please update your post to "make backup 1st".

you should know you can make backup before rooting.

my site/thread and derived threads explain "make backup 1st" or have a link to original before other things e.g. downloading/flashing. so people have a chance to read "make backup 1st"...

I know many people don't read such a message :( but it should be explained.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Have updated 1st post, put CWM down before root & added advice to make Nandroid backup 1st. Can you give me the link to your original FWDN howto & I'll edit my previous post? I cannot see it on the androtab site.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
If nobody posts a Nandroid backup you could always try flashing the EM73 ROM with FWDN tool from fun_'s website - it is apparently the same build as the Kogan.

http://androtab.info/files/tcc8803/rom/ & select EM73-8K-20110516.zip. If you also flash the lk.rom you will get a better partition layout but nobody has tried this on the Kogan AFAIK so I cannot guarantee that you won't brick your touchscreen. It should be safe enough to flash the ROM on its own without the lk.rom.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fun_:
here is original

http://androtab.info/telechips/firmwares

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1101094

OP on this thread is also well described

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1119778
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
Thanks, 1st post & previous post updated with info
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jamesgid:
Thanks, will try that in the morning. Still hopefull that I can get it back to factory after complete nandroid restore. Surely someone can backup there current setup, reset to factory, then take a backup for me, then restore back. It sounds like a lot of work but not that much really.

I can sweeten the deal with $20 through paypal?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I 'll try to do it in the next day or two. I don't want any money :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jamesgid:
Thanks very much. It is so frustrating to have this brand new device and not be able to use it and play with it.

Thanks!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
But if you're in a rush you'll get near identical results from flashing the EM73 image!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwl99:
I've done a factory reset & wipe of my tablet & made a clockworkmod backup which I've linked to below. Please remember to unzip it & place it in the appropriate Nandroid folder on your SD card (/clockworkmod/backup/), don't try to flash the zip file using CWM! This is a slightly slimmed down version of the ROM - amongst other things, I've removed phone.apk, telephony.apk, Email, Facebook, Twitter, FW tool (dangerous to have), ES Explorer, Live Wallpapers and ES task manager. I've upgraded Spare Parts to Spare Parts + and added Astro File Manager as a user app. Let me know if there are any deletions I've not listed! I had removed most of these things from my ROM before I was ever asked to make this backup so if you want to reinstall them you can get them from the Market or flash the relevant apk's into the system/app folder using CWM. The ROM is still rooted.

I will also post this info in the 1st post.

http://www.mediafire.com/?izfedrz97iowi34
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sheedatali:
Passed 1st boot logo and stopped at ! mark.

The system boots, however the touch screen does not work, i-e does not respond to input.