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[HTC Sensation] karnovaran:
I understand CM7 will make it to the GSII, but I take umbrage with it being the device of choice for CM users.

I'm happy to hear those nightlies are stable (can't test them myself), but it did take ~7 months.

I don't think we can accurately judge the Sensation's hardware for CM yet. Sense 3.0 is over 3 times the size of CM and has no hardware acceleration or kernel optimization yet. However, benchmarks from Qualcomm's developer phone using the chipset in the Sensation were easily on par with the GSII so I can't imagine there will be any discernable difference in performance between the two phones once the Sensation is cracked open.

When it comes to CM on these two devices, I think users should be primarily concerned with which screen and form factor they prefer. Performance, benchmarks, and battery life will likely be about the same.
[HTC Sensation] ujkadusko:
Why""? I Phoney is actually Made in China...unlike HTC and Samsung,pick any,just do not go into Apple religion,it can seriously damage your gray cells
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
I have to admit the materials used by HTC are more noble than SGS2 plastic but it's not a reason to say Sensation is better when it has too much things less
[HTC Sensation] Bogdanbd:
Not to mention battery problems. My friend got one sgs2 2 weeks ago, tried 3 rom versions and still battery lasted only one day no matter how he used it. Sold it yesterday and went back to his DHD.

Anyway, for me is Sensation all the way, I wait to be launched here officialy and then I'll get one from vodafone.

I am so happy with the DS that I have and Sensation is exactly the upgrade that I need from DS while maintaining all the goodness: alu body, sense, qHD display (i hate sgs2 amoled unatural colours and too dark for my taste), superb design.
[HTC Sensation] firmbiz94:
Lol at the samjpullen comment..he is a biased douche...I saw him arguing with people on people who had positive reviews of the sensation..I thought I was the only one noticing
[HTC Sensation] Maedhros:
Honestly reading the Posts from People in the Sensation Forum I can see why they think People are Dumb....

Being a Hardcore HTC Fan from the WinMo Days I can See what they are trying to Pull... I for one WONT fall for it AGAIN!

U know what they say about Kids... They wont become good drivers till AFTER their First Crash.

So Many NEW HTC Fanboys in Here they dont seem to recall that HTC ISN'T a Company who will defend its customers like its Customers Defend it...

Great Points.... Agree with them all... Except the QHD :D If they ACTUALLY made use if it like the Flyer Sense then Sure... Otherwise its just the Build Quality and Sense.

It honestly disappoints me HTC goes for Generic Qualcomm or else we would have had a perfect device :(
[HTC Sensation] DANIEL TAN:
Usable RAM size is only about 140MB??

Wth...
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
It hovers around 100MB most of the time, which is plenty.

The only fanboy I see in here is you, a big anti-HTC fanboy.

Trying to justify what you are saying by calling yourself a fanboy and then thinking people will believe you is the oldest trick in the book.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Me too. Samsung love apple

Swyped from my HTC Sensation Pyramid using my thumb and eyes
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
Shame they didn't bother copying the iPhone lockscreen, the default lock screen is an absolute car crash.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
At least it works?
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
But it's incredibly dodgy and poorly designed.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
I kind of like its simplicity. It also looks good when you set the wallpaper to be the same as what's on the phone. It controls the music player and allows quick access to voice mail, SMS, and missed calls. It's basic but not everyone wants their lock screen to look like mission control.
[HTC Sensation] PreVayl:
wow. Every post, blog, news feed on comparison gives it a close race with facts to support the better of the 2. You are just plain retarded. No offense. But stick the qHD display (more PIXELS) from sensation and slap it on to the gs2 and tell me if the banchmark would still be the same. The htc is pushing graphics to a larger pixel footprint. and still maintaining good speed. I have a vibrant and I would choose bigger screen + higher res anyday. gs2 screen to small. At least the sensation you can update the software to give it more speed boost. But you can not update the resolution and screen size on the sg2 your stuk with what u get. I dont like anything under 4.3 anymore. If your home entertainment set up looks better with a bigger widescreen then how can a phone not look better with a bigger screen?
[HTC Sensation] PreVayl:
Hell yea I forgot to mention that. Great f@#$ing point. Super amoled sounds fuqqing nice, looks nice but burns the screen like a plasma. Im the type that uses the phone alot so I have had my vibrant for 8 months and the screen is already burnt. Me being a

Production designer, I love my good picture quality, but super amoled pissed me off the moment it started burning in. THAT is the biggest issue cuz if screen burning stopped people from buying plasma, then why buy a phone that the screen burns. Yea its vibrant enought but burnt and going yellow.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
That must be why sales are so bad...

http://cellphonecuk.com/samsung-gal...l-vendor-10-million-units-expected-to-be-sold
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
Well I red about the screen burn issue and finally it's something that happens with any phone that has Amoled screen, not only SGS2 meaning even the N1 ;)

And for getting screen burn you have to let the screen lighted up for a couple of hours which is insane!!

Also I still can't get a clear answer about the speaker volume compared to DHD, some Sensation fanboys are claiming it's more powerfull than DHD, others saying DHD is better, reviews are saying it's slightly more powerfull but still not sufficiant to hear ringtones in malls...

Same thing for the screen under sunlight, some people here are claiming it's perfectly readable while reviews are all saying it's poor. My DHD is good at 10am sun but horrible at 2pm...what about Sensation?

All I can say is that the Arc I had for 2 weeks was 3x more powerfull in volume speaker and way more readable under sunlight than DHD!

Yes the Sensation IS a step forward compared to DHD but SGS2 is 3 steps forward :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Maybe you should know what your talking about before you actually post? The GS2 display is the same size as the Sensations. Damn, what a painful read.
[HTC Sensation] naimmkassim:
This information is half correct.

Screen size is same, only different is resolution. ;)
[HTC Sensation] colonel:
that article is irrelevant

its about "expected sales" before launch

come on!

I'd be surprised if the sensation didn't outsell the galaxy S II (except in Korea).

It looks and feels so much nicer in hand, most people will be swayed by this.

If not, the fischer price interface of the Galaxy should persuade the remainder

the main issue, in the UK, is that the sensation is only in Vodafone shops. Where they are selliing out of their small batches within 1-2 days

At the end of this month, when the sensation gets into Phones4u, O2, CPW, etc. and the other shops, we will see the Sensation taking over.

BTW the screen of the sensation is excellent. Its not as good as the samsung in sunlight, but the posts here saying the screen is a clear win for Samsung are simply not true for most people!

if you take away the screen advantage, the slight speed increase (probably eliminated in future software release) 99% of people will not notice in normal usage.

Lastly, mexapixels for the display are something Joe Public understands very well. This will be a big plus over the Samsung.
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
Actually, I believe the SGS2's screen is slightly larger (in area) than the Sensation's because it is 800x480 (5:3) compared to 960x540 (16:9). That would partially explain why the Sensation feels noticeably smaller in your hand.
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
I have both phones and my findings so far.

The Sensation feels and looks nicer out of the two and is much smaller than I would have thought, I guess mainly down to it having a 16.9 profile instead of 16.10, the screen is a bit of a let down poor viewing angles and the colours look washed out is the best way to describe them, the screen on the GS2 really does put it to shame on colours etc big difference between the 2.

The extra resolution is great for web browsing text looks nice and I can tell on the home screen things look much sharper on the HTC, also there seems a blue tint on the GS2 when viewing white screens Google for example which I never noticed until I got the Sensation.

The browser isn’t as fluid as the GS2’s and no way near as smooth but does have text wrapping which is a big plus in its favour, although you can get that on opera mobile on the GS2 but the HTC browser is nice.

My biggest disappointment so far is Sense it just isn’t very smooth, I do realise this will get sorted either with custom ROMs or by HTC themselves (custom rom seems the more likely) but I am a little surprised they let it go out like that it reminds me of when I first got a Hero when they came out not a smooth experience.

Sense or Touch Wiz is a no brainer but I soon took TW off my GS2 and put on Launcher Pro but now I am running a custom rom on it, the GS2 is a far smoother phone to use so far and the Super AMOLED + screen is the best on the market no two ways about it.

I have done a couple of video comparisons of the same things and on the Sensation the colours are over saturated and don’t look realistic, they look much more natural on the GS2, I would say the Sensation looks sharper, the sound is better on the GS2 I do have the audio mod on it though.

Media playback the GS2 wins hands down plays anything even 720p/1080p MKV files, just drag them on and it plays them flawless, same goes with internal storage 16gb instead of 1gb and 1gb of ram instead of 768.

I don’t think ram will be an issue as Gingerbread is pretty good at keeping things running smooth only time will tell on this side and I have used it more.

Quick videos I took so you can decide which looks better.

GS2

[Youtube]PG0i3zfh0j4[/youtube]

Sensation

[youtube]vMWa22wntfk[/youtube]
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
@Jabbypants,

Judging from the video you took, Sensation got the best recorded video and it's in 16:9 cinema format. You can see the color details in Sensation video compare to SGS2 washout video...

Clearly here Sensation wins hand down on the video recording session.

Thks for the review.

I can bet later with better build custom roms, Sensation gonna definitely win in performance...it's a matter of time the boot loader gonna be open up....
[HTC Sensation] colonel:
thanks Jabbypants, nice comparison
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Not really sure yet what to draw from them as the colours don't look like that outside as they do on the Sensation, they look more like the GS2 will have to mess with the settings as its appears its over exposing the colour pallet and making them look too bright.
[HTC Sensation] tfn:
I went for the SGS2 after jumping both forums for a while the reasons being

It felt the SGS 2 had a better camera and I did play with a sensation and didnt really like the camera much and as I have a HD 7 not really a fan of HTC camera, besides I wanted to give samsung a try never used a samsung phone before while I had HTC hero and HD7

All I would say is its a personally choice just go and get either phone and you will learn to love it. my main decision maker was the camera otherwise they both have the pros and cons.

If you do get the SGS2 and want sense there are sense launcher and widgets which do mimick the sense themes. so not big deal.

I got mine on Vodafone UK 12 month contract £41 / month £139 for phone ( same deal for the Sensation as well ) as Quad core phones are round the corner and am also considering a Nokia WP7 as WP7 have real pontential.

All I would say is if you guys can afford it go fro 12 month contracts as you want be stuck with one phone for long as mobile developement is really moving fast like the compurter, better devices popping up left right and centre
[HTC Sensation] Bogdanbd:
Lol... a second friend of mine is selling the sgsII. This is how happy they were with them just 2 weeks after they bought them.
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
@Jabbypants

Ringtones on SGS2 are louder than on Sensation?
[HTC Sensation] Profondo_Rosso:
Ever check Garth Brooks album sales?

Just saying...

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4g with extreme prejudice
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
How did you come to the conclusion that the Sensation will be better than the GS2 performance wise when the GS2 had more RAM and better CPU?
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
I judge it base on my DHD usage with a good custom rom and the performance is superb, so Sensation is a clear upgrade of the current DHD....

As for Samsung, my wife is holding the old SGS and I don't really like it.

Whatever brand you buy, it's up to you, if to you Samsung is good than go ahead, nobody stopping you...

And why are you in Sensation Forum anyway?........
[HTC Sensation] boostedb16b:
they all protested and got the sensation watch do banned so they could come and talk their heads full.... when epsix was here not much of them said anything... anyway everyone will be satisfied with which ever device they get
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
Did you read the topic title?

All HTC actual users are not satisfied like you about Sensation hardwares, yes it has a better build quality and better UI but it stops here.

I don't want just a rebadged DHD specially that I am using Sense 3.0 for a good month now, SGS2 is not perfect but at least it's a major upgrade in all multimedia fields
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
Oh is it me or you in the wrong forum?

Dude you are in the wrong forum menu. Look here if you dont realise already. HTC Sensation -> Sensation General -> HTC Sensation vs Samsung Galaxy S II

What do you mean all HTC users? All? is it All?

Go and scroll back and read properly.......

If you want to be a Samsung fanboy go right ahead, don't need to be all craps here.....
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
You can be a good dictator in syria or iran :D

I love HTC but I am realistic, if you can't accept to debate between phones, you should do your own forum in another website
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Well so far I can't see any reason for keeping this Sensation the GS2 is head and shoulders above it personally after one day, am no fan boy have had pretty much all the top android phones at that time, I just tend to get the best phone around at that time.

I still can't get how laggy sense 3 is I really wasn't expecting it and the 3d effect is nothing special, the one thing I like as its got a slightly thinner screen and rounded design it feels smaller in the hands and the higher resolution is nice but nothing ground breaking, that doesn't make up for the poor viewing angles and washed out look too the screen.

The video recording is poor also it seems to over saturate the colours and they don't look natural and has major issues when panning with lighting conditions, going to do another comparison video today, was slightly disappointed to find it doesn't have auto focus but touch focus like the I4.

More time is needed testing to make a proper decision though.
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
I know you want to be realistic....

And I'm realistic too and we are not in Iran or Syria...we are in HTC General discussion here and not in Samsung general discussion

So if Samsung is the next phone for you nobody stopping you....

Go to Samsung general discussion and you can raves about it and condemn HTC down there...

As for me I don't even click the Samsung forum button and it's a waste of time to be there....
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Cause I just purchased one. Would you like proof or something. I'm not the type of person who thinks the phone I own is the best available and unlike most of the people on these forums, I'm certainly not afraid to admit another fun is more powerful. Does it mean I think the other phone is better? No. There are other things that decide the better phone besides power. Right now I am currently holding a G2X and a Sensation which over the next few days I will decide which one becomes my daily driver. Like I said before I returned 3 G2X's and an on my second Sensation. My G2x is bug free so bugs will not weigh in my deciding factor now that I have 2 good working units.
[HTC Sensation] NZtechfreak:
Will be getting my own Sensation soon, already own an SGSII (reviewed it in some depth for the Clove Blog). I'm not a fanboy for either manufacturer, and will be doing a comparison between them, what are the key things people want to know?
[HTC Sensation] lokhor:
I've been reading a lot about the Sensation and the benchmarks all.show disappointing performance especially in web browsing. The sunspider score was lower than my SGS and same with nenamark. It honestly sounds like the dual core isn't fully being utilised with current firmware. Is there hope of performance improvement?
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
Dude whatever suits ya....it's your money
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
This should put an end to a lot of the bickering.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608.php

Reads to me like they thought the Sensation was pretty awesome...
[HTC Sensation] Jabbypants:
Who let you out of overclockers forum :p
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
I picked the lock ;)
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Yup. You think if I was strapped for cash I would be purchasing phone after phone at the retail price? I know it's my money and I work hard for my money. In these forums I would say that I'm not in the minority when it comes to owning multiple high end devices.
[HTC Sensation] Androidfreakz:
I'm sorry I don't care how horsepower the Galaxy S ll has I person hate touchwiz, the phone looks cheap its a plain imitation of the iPhone Ios imo. This sensation does feel really good in the had. Plus I'm not the one who likes to use launchers to cover a crappy os skin like TW. I'm like sense I have no problems with. Touchwiz is just a basic Ios copy that looks horrible but run pretty smooth being that u can't do much with like Ios lol.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
I don't know if you used the new TouchWiz but they took out the colored boxes around the icons which made it look like iOS in the first place. Other than that, I really don't know how it looks like iOS. There are features within TouchWiz that are actually pretty cool such as the Contacts app. You can swipe right on a contact to call or swipe left to start a text. TW brings great Twitter and FB integration and probably has the best email client I've ever seen on a Android device. I wish HTC would have taken a step back with all of the effects on the new version of Sense but they went ahead and put in more animations more eye candy at the expense of performance. I am actually surprised because out of all the company's I expected to make there skins less intrusive, HTC actually went and made it more intrusive while Samsung and Motorola are making there skins less intrusive.

Another advantage TW has is when you throw a third party launcher on top of it, Touch Wiz doesn't use up a lot of RAM while running in the back ground. I can't wait until the Sensation gets rooted so I can delete Sense and just use ADW or LP.
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
TouchWiz is so ugly that I wish it did look like iOS :( :p
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
In my OPINION it is minimalistic. Not ugly.:D
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
In defense of TouchWiz, the new version is easier on the eyes and is less intrusive than Sense. TouchWiz has brilliant notifications on the lockscreen, and has had them for over a year. Touchwiz may not look as nice as sense, but sense is very much bloated in every sense (no pun intended). Both are different, and both are good in their own ways. I love the swipe to the left, and right in the contacts screen, and miss it when I flash AOSP roms. If HTC filled the Sensation with the GS2 guts, and a QHD SAMOLED Plus screen, running sense UI it would be the perfect phone and unmatched by any device out there by a mile. Ahh, I can dream can't I.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
This is what Engadget had to say about Sense. I hope they Root this thing quickly.

"Still, there's no escaping Sense, and we're not fans. As far as pigs and lipstick go, Sense 3.0 wears a professional makeup job. Other than adding instant access to the camera from the lock screen, it's mostly style over substance, fancy 3D effects on top of functionality that already exists in Gingerbread. A long time ago, in a land far away, Sense made, well... sense. It added important missing features to the OS. But today we'll take plain Android over Sense -- and its frustrating keyboard layout -- any day. "
[HTC Sensation] lokhor:
Is anyone running a non stock browser that they can use to run sunspider and browsermark to compare?
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
TouchWiz really isn't an interface. I've never used it before so I don't know if that's what it was trying to be historically. But I've used Sense and you can't really compare them. It's basically just Samsung's launcher with some proprietary apps and features imbedded in it. I used ADW on my past phones and other than the lack of personalization/customization TouchWiz isn't all that different. You can use any external widgets with TouchWiz without a problem. I'm using the BW clock/weather widget because Samsung's widget is pretty rough. Unfortunately, you have to use TouchWiz to use Samsung's widgets, some of which are pretty cool. Someone who likes HTC's holistic approach of bundling everything most used in to Sense would hate TouchWiz. Not for what it is, but for what it isn't.
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
You should work harder dude to buy even more phones......
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
Oh trust me. I buy more than just phones. Just ask my wife about my firearm collection.
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
Just don't make your wife angry and point that Deagle at your head later
[HTC Sensation] NZtechfreak:
My Sensation arrived today, already had an SGSII.

Getting to grips with the Sensation (been Tweeting up a storm, hard to resist making adding a hash tag to that "Sensation"!).

My MHL cables both work (go standard connections).

WiiMotes don't work, didn't expect them to.

BT keyboard works, BT Mouse pairs, but not properly supported.

Phonejoy works (tried out with Mario kart 64 in N64oid, awesomesauce!).

Video playback proving problematic with most of my test files (wide variety of codecs/bitrates/resolutions/audio encoding types), even with Diceplayer, Moboplayer, Rockplayer. Bit disappointing, since it kinda makes the MHL-out less useful. Doesn play 1080p MP4 well though, and Diceplayer can handle some of the MKVs (even the one with DTS sound and a 9500kbps bitrate).

Already had one out of memory warning.

Browser is lovely with the screen resolution, but quite a bit slower than SGSII, and handles flash much worse too. Love the dynamic reflow though!

Sound quality for music is better based on my limited playback so far (via line out to the car stereo).

Tasker more compatible than with my SGSII, although still can't handle picking up calls (not the fault of either phone, its a Gingerbread thing).

Will be posting more up to Twitter as it occurs to me (NZtechfreak there too), and also making a review/comparison for the Clove Blog.

Questions?
[HTC Sensation] EtherealRemnant:
Comparing the Sensation to the SGSII is like comparing a Focus to a Porsche. The SGSII is better in every way that I can think of. The exception being for those of us on T-Mobile who like having "4G" coverage and the fact that an unlocked SGSII can be as much as 8-900 dollars :O

The 399.99 G2x outperforms the 549.99 Sensation even - and the Tegra 2 chip in that phone came out in what, October, November? The Exynos 4210 trumps any processor currently on the market in every category and the SGSII's internal storage puts the Sensation to shame. Might as well be in the dog house.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
After the Galaxy S debacle, Samsung can be compared to a Yugo. Ferrari? Not a chance.