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[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
1. Not practical to do for various technical reasons

2. Will not add this because I cannot add rarely used options indefinitely

3. if you mean controlling the same playback queue (eg the content of the Playlist tab) from multiple Android devices, you can do it with BubbleUPnP Server, making you renderer and OpenHome renderer
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Make sure to update your wdtv live to the latest firmware available.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Is that on the LAN or remote access through BubbleUPnP Server ?
[Android Apps and Games] darkbasic4:
LAN.

Also I noticed the app isn't always responsive (sometimes it takes a lot of time) and after a while it stops playing, even with screen always on.
[Android Apps and Games] Mattlindsay:
Thanks but I'm obviously missing something..... :S

In the UPNP standard here: (Blast, it wont let me post a link, but google 'upnp architecture 2: synchronized playback' and go to the pdf link)

There is a section on synchronised playback:

This info starts on page 29

Does this not suggest UPNP supports it? (Sorry if I'm being a plonker and missing something)
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
That would work if there was any renderer implementing those Sync* functions. In practice, there is none, so it is not possible.
[Android Apps and Games] Mattlindsay:
Again, i must be missing something, but...

Doesn't the Bubble Andorid App provide a renderer.... and Bubble Server provide a server..... So if both implemented it, wouldn't that be a good start?:p
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Yes you are missing something. Synced playback is not a trivial affair and cannot be added on top of existing devices that do not implement it.

The spec you mentionned adding sync ability exists, but is new and virtually no device implements it.

In other terms, forget synchronized playback with UPnP.
[Android Apps and Games] Mattlindsay:
Thanks for the direct response, sage advice. Sounds like I'm barking up the wrong tree at the monet.

Can you offer any advice of where to looks next in my quest? Clearly interested in Open Source.... so, shall I start looking at:

DLNA?

OpenHome?

Some other Standard?

Any idea how Lynn do it? I thought their solutions were based on OSS?

Thanks again.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
There's Apple Airplay and I think Sonos is able to do synced playback too. You might want to research "multiroom audio".

I don't think there are many OSS options.

Linn have Songcast, an OSS sync playback API, but it is currently only implemented into their own (expensive) hardware.
[Android Apps and Games] Mattlindsay:
Thanks for that.

It looks like OpenHome are tacking it (and have adopted SongCast), so that might be my best bet:

openhome 'dot' org/wiki/OhMedia
[Android Apps and Games] Northernmost:
Guess what... you're right! I just tried out JRMC and syncing playback to BubbleUPnP on my phone, tablet and my desktop USB headset: they were all not in sync by +/- 5 seconds or so.

In its defence, JRMC does do a great job when playback devices are Windows audio devices e.g. one set of speakers plugged in to the line out / USB and a bluetooth soundbar connected wirelessly. I just generally dislike the thought of synchronised playback as you'll invariably end up with a train crash where audio is loud enough to reach audio coming from another direction. That's my personal reason for having bluetooth speakers where ever I want to listen to music - a quick bonk on an NFC tag and you can easily switch playback to the speakers where you are. To each their own though!
[Android Apps and Games] vascoc:
Awesome app!
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
A new program is available in the Bubble family:

BubbleUPnP Tether client (download)

It is a simple command-line program that will make available on the LAN it is running, Media Servers on another LAN managed by BubbleUPnP Server (UPnP Tethering), with optional audio and video transcoding.

This was until now only possible by enabling tethering in Android BubbleUPnP (without the ability to specify transcode settings).

NOTE: this program is only useful when used on 2 separate LANs. Althouth nothing prevents you from doing so, there is no point in running it on the same LAN than BubbleUPnP Server.

Start it from the command-line with a BubbleUPnP Server connection URL specified with -connect. For example, on Windows (launsh.sh on unix):

launch.bat -connect [url]https://myhostname.org:58051[/url] -login mylogin
<it will ask for BubbleUPnP Server password here>

Once started, you should be able to access tethered media servers from any UPnP program or device on the target LAN (Android BubbleUPnP, TVs, PS3, ...), like if it were regular media servers. By default, a tethered media server network name is appended "[tether]" to be differentiated from regular UPnP devices.

Several options can be specified on the command line, in particular transcoding options.

Start launch.bat without argument to display them.
[Android Apps and Games] Rouquemoute:
FANTASTIC !!!

Works like a charm.

Thanks a lot !
[Android Apps and Games] bsmith1051:
Just to clarify: the tether is an app you would run, e.g. at a friend's house, so that your Internet-connected UPnP home-server showed-up as a 'local' server at the new location? So the whole point would be to avoid manually entering your Internet URL for anyone at the new location?

________________

I think I've asked this before but I still would like to see a party/kiosk mode in BubbleUPnP. The new features would be a preprogrammed/locked set of server and renderer, password-protected exit, and an option to clear the playlist on start (or exit, same difference). I think this is what's necessary for me to leave a tablet out for public/party use and without the need to conduct tech-support!
[Android Apps and Games] The G Man:
BubbleUPNP-server on NAS (Western Digital My Book Live)

Hello.

I'm having some trouble on installing the bubbleupnp-server on my NAS-drive. I have no idea on how to do so. I've managed to install the server on my computer, but I don't want it to be on 24/7. However the NAS-drive is always on.

If someone could type an easy "hos-to-do-list" I would be most thankful.

Regards/Anton
[Android Apps and Games] chileboy:
I am actually streaming FLAC, so from what you're saying it should work? If so, perhaps Twonky is at fault? As it turns out, I checked and I am a couple of minor versions behind in Twonky - so I will try upgrading that first and report back.

Regarding the second problem, upon some research I discovered a number of reports of problematic WiFi after the Android 4.1 upgrade on some Verizon phones (including my Razr). As you suspect, I have traced it to power saving during WiFi but as of yet the only thing I discovered to effectively remedy the situation is to keep my phone connected to a power source at all times when using WiFi. As I have started to mainly use BubbleUPnP when I turn in for the night, I've just been plugging it into a charger before starting up my WiFi, and that solves the issue for me (at least, when using BubbleUPnP).

Thanks very much for the response, and for a great app!

- Mark
[Android Apps and Games] sorepinky:
JRiver Gapless under BubbleUPnP Control

Hey Bubblebuum, over on the JRiver forum where you have contributed, Bob has mentioned a fix for their trackURI to achieve gapless playback in the JRiver renderer when reading from the JRiver server under third party control and claims that it now works with BubbleUPnP. According to their change log, build 18.0.158: Fixed: Have the renderer return correct data for trackURI's when the same instance of MC is the server and renderer.

I have tried it with BubbleUPnP as well as BubbleUPnP Server - setting the JRiver renderer as an OpenHome renderer and could not achieve gapless playback at the end of even numbered tracks (only odd). I have BubbleUPnP set to allow gapless, but can't see a gapless setting in the Server configuration.xml.

Is there something I am missing?

Cheers.
[Android Apps and Games] Andre Gosselin:
BubbleUPnPServer and gapless playback

Hi,

The following two renderers are reported as supporting gapless playback by BubbleUPnP : Naim UnitiQute, and Foobar2000 (with foo_upnp installed). However, when OpenHome renderers are defined for those renderers through BubbleUPnPServer, BubbleUPnP reports that those two OpenHome renderers do not support gapless playback. Is gapless playback incompatible with OpenHome renderers, or have I missed a setting somewhere ?

Thanks for your help
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
See my answer in the JRMC thread.

OpenHome renderers are not gapless capable yet (that is, they miss the ability to control the underlying renderer gaplessly). It is somewhat in the todo list

although no promise when.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Yes, what it does is make your home media servers appear at your friend's location as reular Media Server that any UPnP app (Control Point) or device (PS3, Xbox, WDTV, ...) can access.

Not planned because it is a way too much specific use case.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
First, you'd have to tell us what you NAS is, because we cannot guess it.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Normally you should not have a hiccup, provided your FLAC are really gapless and the consecutive tracks you play are from the same gapless album. When you play them in a PC musi player such as foobar2000, do they play gaplessly ?

Maybe your issue is ROM specific, especially if it is a custom ROM.
[Android Apps and Games] cliffskoog:
playlist advance problem: Raspbmc

Hi

I'm using a Nexus 7. My attempt to play enqued songs from the Nexus to XBMC (Raspbmc) only plays the first song, then stops unless I manually advance. I've tried a lot: disabling crossfading and gapless, setting up your openhome renderer on the XBMC (from both the Nexus and a BubbleUPnP server on my desktop). I've combed both your and XBMC's settings for relevant adjustments to no avail. Is there a remedy for this?

I want to add that BubbleUPnP overall seems the best app of its kind of the many I've so far tried. Its interface is the most usable, it doesn't break things, and its capabilities are impressive. I would buy it but for the playlist problem.

Thanks for your attention.
[Android Apps and Games] texneus:
Video transcoding crashes Galaxy S phone

Hi there Bubblegum, I need a little help. The past several months I have been evaluating a number of media streaming options on Windows eventually to be deployed on a dedicated media server. BubbleUPnP turned out to be my preferred solution (and indeed I see since I last looked at least one feature I requested has been incorporated...Thank You!!!). Fast forward to today and my media server is ready. I installed BubbleUPnP server and updated the Bubble UPnP client on my Galaxy S phone, but I'm now having very significant issues getting video transcoding to function. The following describes what I am seeing:

1) When the server is installed on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (using the PPA repository) sound and images work flawlessly. Videos will stream (to MX Player) if they are not transcoded, but my phone cannot keep up (I'm not at all concerned about this as it is an old phone). If I enable transcoding MX player will launch but all I ever see is the spinning wheel. Eventually after 1-2 minutes, the phone will completely lockup and I have to remove the battery. When I look in the BubbleUPnP Server log, I can see where ffmpeg is called, and there is another entry shortly after word that says Transcoding Complete: Aborted.

2) I've re-installed the server on my Windows laptop where it once worked (to troubleshoot), and it is behaving much the same, except now playing transcoded video results in MX Player throwing a "Sorry, this video cannot be played" error. Sorry, I can't seem to find the logs in Windows to know what might be going on there.

So, it appears that sometime in the past few months, video transcoding has broken? Any ideas????

EDIT: I noticed BubbleUPnP server installs it's own FFMEG. I've already compiled FFMPEG 1.2 direct from git, so thinking there might be a conflict I rolled back the system and re-installed BubbleUPnP "for other Java platforms". No change in results, although I am noticing that some videos will play, others cause a lock up. Unfortunately those that play are the exception. All files I'm working with are h.264 in MPEG-TS (.TS) containers. My DLNA server (Serviio) is set to pass everthing straight through to BubbleUPnP Server (no intermediary transcoding). BubbleUPnP Server Log says transcoding is aborted in either case, so it's a real mystery why some files work, and other times it doesn't...

Log of a successful transcode and playback...phone plays video when "aborted" message appears:

Log of an unsuccessful transcode and playback (phone crashes when "aborted" message appears and is eventually removed as a renderer):
[Android Apps and Games] sorepinky:
Thanks Bubbleguuum. Just to help others here who may not want to visit the JRIver thread, it worked after I unchecked "Use eventing" in BubbleUPnP's UPnP tweaks. Looking forward to the Server upgrade. Many I am sure will benefit from it and it could expand your market enormously.

Cheers.
[Android Apps and Games] Koektrommel82:
Foobar as renderer

Hi there!

I just installed foobar + foo_upnp plugin to be able to use it as rendere (just like I can stream and play audio with my Samsung television).

Under preferences, the media renderer server is started. However, I can't discover foobar on my network with other devices.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] xGBHxPegasus:
Just tried this but my samsung TV is saying File not Supported :( Still works via my S3.

Is it just the samsung tv being slightly rubbish? or is there any magical option I can change to get it fixed? :)
[Android Apps and Games] Midgard_MD:
Album Covers?

Hello,

I really love this app to play music from my NAS to my hifi. I also bought the pro version.

There is just ONE thing I didn't get yet: I'm playing FLACs. Unfortunately there are no covers shown on my tablet PC.

Is there any solution for that?

Many thanks and greetings from germany!
[Android Apps and Games] Danielswede:
Sv: [APP][2.1+] BubbleUPnP - UPnP/DLNA Control Point and Renderer

Hello! I have a problem with streaming my music over my router Asus RT-AC66U AC1750 Dual Band. Bubbleupnp find my external hard drive, but I can not see my files on the hard drive. What am I doing wrong? Work perfect when I stream from dropbox.

Skickat från min Nexus 7 via Tapatalk 2
[Android Apps and Games] KirovAir:
For some reason I can not seem to play my music to my Sony Bravia TV anymore..

I get "Current state of service prevents invoking that action. non-recoverable remote excecution failure: 403 forbidden (code 501)" as an error. It used to work just fine.. Any thoughts?
[Android Apps and Games] manicmonkey:
That's an authentication error, have you configured a password, parental control or something like that on your TV?

---------- Post added at 04:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:09 PM ----------

Hi Bubbleguuum. I have noticed a regression in the latest release - if network connectivity is disrupted while playing (video or audio) then the playlist seems to reset to an earlier copy. I'm not using your server, just serviio. Has anyone else reported this to you? I can perform some tests and report the exact behaviour if you will fix it :)

Btw, it's an awesome, very high quality application. I use it daily and tell all my friends it's the best of breed!
[Android Apps and Games] darkbasic4:
Up :)
[Android Apps and Games] Hi.pop.pop.pop:
Have you ever considered a grid like display in addition to the line by line with thumbnails to the left? Like the windows version of Kinsky.

Love your app, by far the most stable controller amongst all I've used. Just missing the grid view when using it on the tablet, a LOT of screen space goes unused now there ;)
[Android Apps and Games] The G Man:
Doh! Wrote it in the title. It's a Western Digital My Book Live 2 TB.
[Android Apps and Games] TheBlackCat13:
BubbleUPnP can transcode audio formats and video formats for the renderer. However, my renderer client, for some strange reason, can only play videos and pictures. Is there any way to set it up so it renders audio to a video stream with just a blank picture (or, better yet, album art or something)?
[Android Apps and Games] KirovAir:
Thanks, I worked it out! Also, I'm sharing the same opinion on this great app. :)
[Android Apps and Games] Traiklin:
Fullscreen Greyed out

ok I don't know if this is because I am on a tablet or what but on my phone I am able to select Fullscreen but on my tablet it's greyed out/

also it doesn't seem to detect when it is in portrait mode or landscape mode on my tablet but the phone is fine.

The phone is a Galaxy Nexus (From last year) the Tablet is Galaxy Nexus 7 (just bought today)
[Android Apps and Games] :
Mediamonkey Tagging

This app is simply amazing. Nothing comes close. Been using a long time and recently been using the remote server to play my tunes when I'm on the road. One issue I am having though is displaying tags with semicolons. I use MediaMonkey as my collection database and upnp server and use semicolons to seperate artists and genres in my tags. when I view tracks through BubbleUPnP, it will only show the last item (eg, artist) when there's more than one. Example. A track with artists listed as "Above & Beyond; Richard Bedford" only shows up as Richard Bedford when viewing. It is a somewhat minor issue and doesn't effect play, but having that fixed sometime in the future would be great. Its a bloody amazing app. And I am glad it gets updated on a regular basis. Keep up the awesome work.

Lance
[Android Apps and Games] 2b2b:
m3u

Think, after some testin', I will donate some beer via the payed version.

One Q regarding .m3u-files: when I try to stream some ts-movies from my dreambox, she leaves files like:

movie.m3u:

http://192.168.1.105:31342/var/mnt/hdd/movie/movie.ts

or video.m3u:

http://192.168.1.105:31339/0,044c,0456,0460,0461,0462,0465

These are played via vlc on my pc without issue - when trying to play with this app, I get "mime type unknown" or no reaction.

should that work with some config-tweaks, will You fix it with the mentioned "m3u-playlist-fix" in one of the next versions - or is it impossible to play streams like those?

thanxx 4 Your great work!
[Android Apps and Games] Winglet:
1. I use the BubbleUPnP equalizer - sometimes it stops working after changing back to local renderer or after a while playing and stopping music via bluetooth streaming and remote controlling...

2. All my MP3s (cover in tag) are on the smartphone SD-card - some covers show on foreign renderers but the same covers won't on the "now playing" screen while using the local renderer - is there any special JPEG format/size/resolution I have to comply with?

3. The Dropbox-streaming-playlist can not be resumed after any WLAN-interruption - the app has then to be restarted completely...

4. All my MP3s are on the smartphone's SD-card but sometimes the playlist won't react anymore and has to be deleted and filled up again...
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Send me a log file showing the problem (see first post of this topic for instructions), in the simplest setup (no OpenHome)
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
In previous versions of BubbleUPnP Server, videos were trancoded to AVI / h264 which is a weird combination that had its share of issues.

Now it transcodes to MPEG-TS / H264 which is more compatible.

Videos not playing in MX Player can be tricky to troubleshoot as sometimes failure to play is device specific: it could work on my phone but not yours.

here's a few things to try:

- in MX Player settings, try different renderers: S/W, H/W, H/W+. When doing any settings change, make sure to exit MX Player and trigger playback again in BubbleUPnP. This is necessary because MX Player may not take into account changes unless restarted.

- try playing transcoded video in another video player, just to check if they can be played

- check that you have enough bandwidth for the transcoding setting requested

- if you were testing playing trancoded video over a mobile connection, try on your home WiFi instead (to eliminate potential bandwidth issues)

If nothing works, send me an email (bubbleguuum at free.fr) so I can try playing your videos from my phone.

"aborted" means the transcoding process was aborted either because video playback was stopped (by user) or the video player (MX Player) closed the connection by itself for example if it could not decode the video.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Not really as discovery issues can be difficult to troubleshoot.

Make sure your WiFi router is running the latest firmware for it.

If you have a firewall running on your PC, disable it temporarily to see if it helps.

Install other UPnP devices on your PC to see if they are detected.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Are you playing videos and they are working on your S3 but not your Samsung TV ?

Videos on Samsung TV have always been problematic (the devices are super picky in the data they expect, thanks Samsung) and I'm not suprised at all they will not play
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
To display covers, BubbleUPnP rely on your Media Server (NAS) to send image links for each item. If you see

no cover then, it probably doesn't send any. Album art handling is the job of the Media Server, some are better than others at it.

Most Media Servers recognize Folder.jpg as album art.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Where is your external hard drive connected ? to your router ?

What does "find my external hard drive, but I can not see my files on the hard drive" means ?
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
The previous renderer is restored if it is discovered within 10s after startup. If not, the default renderer is made active. I suppose is is the consequence of the long startup time (still a mystery, from the log you sent me the app is freezed for 17s at some point, this is very unusual and have no explanation at this point)
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
v1.1.2 released on the Market yesterday should fix this.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
If you want to access MediaMonkey over a mobile connection, use BubbleUPnP Server (which you may have noticed is discussed in the latest posts). See first post of this topic for more info on BubbleUPnP Server.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
Can you redirect the output log of the server to a file, let it run for 2mins and send me the resulting log to bubbleguuum@free.fr ?
[Android Apps and Games] UksusoFF:
Why can't use native MM UPnP Server? In 4.0 MM have it.
[Android Apps and Games] be-nelli:
BubbleUPnPServer doesn't stream to PCH NMT A-110

Hi again!

No that I've got the server running on my DS210j, I have an issue with my DMA (Popcornhour NMT A-110): I cannot stream mp3 via my mobile and BubbleUPnP when using this server. The app shows a popup saying "Renderer only supports ...." and then list of video and other formats.

The server outputs tons of warnings (every 10 secs five lines), see attached log. When going directly on the dma (i.e. no control point software) and selecting the BubblerServer as source, all mp3s are played without problems.

Do you have an idea what's going on?

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] be-nelli:
Track time not working

When streaming music via BubbleUPnP from my DS210j to a PCH NMT A-110 as DMA, the track time is not working, i.e. it is not counting up or down. When streaming to the mobile directly it is working. When looking at the display of the A-110, the track time is also working. It is simply not showing on the app. I have no idea whether this is related to an issue with the A-110 or with the app.

Any hints are appreciated.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bubbleguuum:
I do not understand clearly what you are doing, could you reformulate stating precisely what you want to do with BubbleUPnP Server?

Also could you give me the precise wording of the "Renderer only supports ..." message as I do not see to what it refers.

Thanks!