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[HTC Sensation] mr.orange303:
The sensation has a modified a8.

More like a 8.5
[HTC Sensation] polo045:
Amen to that.
[HTC Sensation] GorillaPimp:
Thanks for the great discussion about processor design.
[HTC Sensation] crabjoe:
Qualcomm's Soc is A8 modified. It's mostly modified to excel at floating point calculations. Problem is, Floating point isn't used much on Andorid apps, but if it were, it would crush the chipsets currently running standard A9.
[HTC Sensation] mobilehavoc:
Wait until G2X gets stock Gingerbread and then do it so it's a fair fight.
[HTC Sensation] phburks:
My mistake I was just asking you because you seemed to post that you were in agreement.

Anyway, I must say I disagree with the video reviewer about the Sensation being more customizable. There are countless apps that can add most of the Sense UI features and more to either phone. What Sense offers is a prettier, more feature-rich out-of-the-box experience. From my experience I'd say that's what the average user wants anyway. Both approaches have their strengths, but I don't think that means Sense is more customizable.
[HTC Sensation] jrwingate6:
While I as a die hard phone greek agree with you, the average consumer won't. In my opinion, the Sensation looks better than the G2X but there is no doubt the G2X is more snappier and can run the high end games at a greater FPS. Like I said before, I am still trying to figure put which one my wife gets and which one I keep. What I do know is whatever one i have it will get set aside when the SGSII gets to the states.
[HTC Sensation] phburks:
Definitely agree with you there about the average consumer preference lol.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yizhaq79:
I had 3 random reboots while it was sleep mode.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doronster195:
yes

10chhar
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_gunner:
Yep, I've seen mine do it 3 times since updating. Who knows how many times it's done it that I haven't seen.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ASR831:
The problem is the wifi will stay on after a random reboot and thus draining battery. You can see it on battery information in settings.

It just happened to me the past couple of days so I'm thinking it is one of the apps I installed. But I don't know how can I pinpoint it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khoabui:
Yes
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SM0k3Y:
does for me anytime i have the keyboard dock connected and opened while the screen is sleep. did it 3-4 times. when the tablet isnt connected to the dock i doesn't do it at all. :confused:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwelch:
This is exactly what's happening to me. I have yet to see it reboot when not in the dock OR when in the dock with the screen on. Just as described above, if it is in the dock with the screen off, it will reboot occasionally.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meatlocker:
This behavior completely stopped for me (knock on wood) when I removed my 16GB SD card from the slot on the dock. I've seen various threads about this working for others after I mentioned it previously, worth trying if you are using an SD card.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curti.nogg:
Random reboot twice last night...that I know of and once while using it. It's my Captivate all over.

Sent from my Captivate
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aryantes:
I have had this issue as well.

As others have said, mine happens when it is docked and when the screen is off.

It can also happen when I am moving it to open position.

I have an SD card in the dock.

I have a feeling it has to do with the battery saver mode that disables the keyboards ability to unlock the tablet when it is asleep.

It will also redetect external storage each time it wakes. I think this is causing the issue.

I have disabled the MobileDock Battery saving mode in the screen settings and things seem better.

However, I haven't had it on long enough to say conclusively.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikewong27:
It helped when I removed my 8 GB SD card from my keyboard dock... but after one or two days, it starts to reboot automatically again... I also noticed that my tablet itself reboots every few days...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkonex:
Hrm I also just put a 16GB SD card in my dock and left it there recently, maybe I should take mine out and see if it helps. I'm also having an issue where when my tablet wakes and my SD card is in the slot, it either won't see it or it does but the folders all show as 0 byte files instead and I have to take it out and put back in to get it to work again.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HorsexD:
I haveNever had a random Reboot on my tablet. Im on stock 3.1 no Dock.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aryantes:
I just realized that I too had the dock/tablet battery widget installed. Maybe that contributed to the reboot issue.

I no longer have it installed and have not experienced any weirdness.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wdustin1:
I have mine 3 days and u haven't seen a reboot and when I check the system up time it's what it should be so I think mine is not doing it I am on stock 3.1 no root no sd card

Sent from my captivate BLAZING on firefly 3.0
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yizhaq79:
Its my nexus s all over :(

Google will lose the battle
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andref:
So this random reboot thing really started bugging me. Mine will reboot around 4 or 5 times a day while it's sitting on the desk open next to me and asleep.

I decided to try and figure out whats going on. After checking out all the threads on the matter it appears to have the following in common:

Any ROM, custom, rooted, stock, 3.01 or 3.1 seem affected

Only happens when tablet is docked with keyboard and asleep

Never happens when you are using the device

I'm on Prime 1.4, but had the problem on two MCR's I used (3.01 and 3.1), Prime 1.3 and Primordial.

I figured it must have something to do with the dock. Since th dock basically provides three things, battery, keyboard and storage slots I thought to start there. I did a full wipe on my TF and left it for a while. A reboot occured. I installed a real time loggerand set wifi to disconnect when the screen goes off. I figured maybe since the tablet by itself did not reboot it was something to do wiht the fact that the dock made the tab appear to be on charge, thus wifi never swithed off. It still rebooted. Not a wifi issue then...

I then noticed some folk having success by removng the SD card. So this was next. I removed my microSD that was in the provided SD carrier. Reboot! Then somebody told me the carrier has some electronics in it. I removed the whole unit. Bingo, three days and no reboot.

So, do the logs say anything? Well they say a heck of a lot, which is a bit of a problem. But looking for SDcard entries I found one consistant string of entries that always occurred close to a reboot. The SD card will randomly unmount. This is followed by a bunch entries after which the card will mount again.

So, not entirely sure what's going on , but problem seems to be related to the SD card slot.

I sure hope it can be fixed.

Log extract below where you can see the unmount etc. There is a lot more and it seems to happen quite often, but bottom line is that the card unmounts or the USBdevice disconnects. Why this should cause a reboot, I'm not sure. Maybe some brigher folks can figure it out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elziko:
I'm not sure I agree with this statement - I have no dock and I experience the same issues. I do agree that it is something to do with the SD card though.

I was suffering the same reboot whilst I had a MicroSD card in my TF then I removed it. I have not noticed a reboot since.

I plan to plug a MicroSD back in soon and see what happens. I'll post back with my findings.

Also, can you tell me where you find the log you posted? Is there anything specific in the log that shows exactly when the reboot occurs?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andref:
Interesting, maybe this is a greater SD card issue then.

The log I got by using an app called LogViewer by ukzzang. It's nice as it has a record mode that writes to internal SD all the time.

There is nothing in the log at the time of the reboot sadly. I was kind of hoping for a app crash or kernel panic or something meaningful, but the logs simply stop at the reboot with nothing particular being logged.

Might be worth other folks runnng logs to see if there is some common issue here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meatlocker:
I want to be clear about my experience: the issue for me was with a FULL sized SD card in the DOCK slot, not the MicroSD in the tablet itself. I've had no issues at all with the MicroSD, and only seen the repeated sleep-dock reboot with a particular Patriot 16GB SD card in the dock.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alex5790:
I have the tablet and dock at 100% stock 3.1 and have never seen this. I has the battery widgets installed but do not has a SD card(micro or full sized). About how often are the reboots happening?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WoodburyMan:
I only had it happen to me once, however it was while running a emulator.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aryantes:
Mine definitely reboots when...

Docked

MicroSD in tablet

SD in dock

Sleeping

MobileDock power saving mode disabled

Wifi set to never disconnect.

This happens everyday. Sometimes I don't notice but I can tell when my email widgets change back to Combined Inbox.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andref:
Try popping the SD card out of the dock and see if things improve. I'm sitting on an uptime of 54hrs so far after removing my SD card. Still have the microSD in the tablet and have left it permanently docked. Mine would definitely appear to have an issue with the SD card slot on the dock. Tried a couple of different SD's and a couple of microSD's in carriers. All of then cause a reboot within hours.

Interestingly though, things seem to be more stable if the dock is on charge (with SD inserted). Might well be related to the powersave in some way as a previous post mentioned.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reppad:
I have the same problem.

My TF reboots several time a day when it is docked and sleeping.

Logfiles are generated on internal memory (e.g. ramdump2011-06-15-232331.log).

I have an sdcard in the dock.

I removed the dock for 2 days and the tablet did not restart, I have not found new "ramdump" during this period.

I connected the tablet to the dock wit SD card for 1 day -> reboot, ramdump.

I connected the tablet to the dock without SD card for 3 days -> no reboot, no ramdump.

For now I continue without SD card.

Note : I have a µSD card in the tablet and MobileDock power saving mode is enabled
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HorsexD:
I can confidantly say mine has Never rebooted itself. guess im lucky o.o!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhamma110:
I am lucky.....no reboots. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aryantes:
Removed the SD card from the dock and have not had a random reboot in a few days...

That is annoying. I wonder if it is the brand of SD card, I'm using a Lexar Platinum 2 8gb class 6.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andref:
Does not appear to be speed or brand related. I tried a Verbatim class 2 microSD (from my old Nokia E series) in the supplied carrier, then a different carrier and finally a Transcend 32Gig SDHC class 10. All caused a reboot. Even just leaving the microSD carrier in the slot causes a reboot.

I think it's somehow power related as it seem to stabilise if the dock is connected to power.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] life64x:
This morning it just rebooted for the first time. It probably rebooted other times as well without me noticing. I put it to sleep to watch some TV and in the corner of my I see it reboot....wtf. 16 gig card in it and not docked. Running prime 1.4 with new clemsyn 10b. Background notifications on. I do have to say not nearly as bad as my returned iconia 500 with the screen always randomly turning on when in sleep.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrykur:
No reboots for me. I have a 32 GB Transcender micro sd card installed.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daevus:
I get daily random reboots here, about two a day. This is with dock connected, no SD card (just the plastic dummy), but with a 16Gb microsd in the tablet.

It only happens off-power. I leave it overnight charging and it is rock solid stable.

And, annoyingly, it frequently reboots and fails to recognise the microsd card till it's removed and reinserted. This is a pain since all my music is on there and the music app needs to rebuilt its database each insert.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] life64x:
I checked my mail this morning and then put it to sleep...as soon as a did that 10 seconds later it woke up and rebooted...suddenly it said one Mai on the screen....for the heck of it...I put back to sleep and wrote myself a email oncmy phone....on sleep mode 3 times...woke up once...rebooted once and nothing happened third tlme....where is this bug located at? Asus mail or honeycomb?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkonex:
Mine has been doing same thing still, except for a few days I did pop the SD card out and it didn't seem to happen anymore, so I ended up sending that SD card backa nd bought a Transcend 16GB class 6 microSD instead but it's still happening, although I do currently have also a 4GB microSD w/ SD adapter plugged into the dock too. SOmething a little different happened twice this weekend, it did the auto reboot thing right after I took it out of the dock. Now I don't take mine out of the dock hardly ever, when I have in the past I did so when the screen was on, the difference this time the screen was asleep. So ya it certainly seems to pinpoint to something to do with having an SD in and the device is asleep, but don't think it has to do only with the dock, think the microSD card slot trying to wake up also maybe causes it. Guess I need to just take both cards out and dock/undock it while asleep a few times and see if it happens or not.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] case0:
I've seen this happen to me twice in the last few days although it might have done it without me noticing too. I also have a microsd in, no SD. Strange though because I never noticed until just recently so I figured it was the kernel I flashed.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andref:
Interesting change in behavior for me now. I've had the dock SD card out (microSD inserted in tab itself) for around a week now and no reboots at all.

I recently flashed Prime 1.5 and thought I would try again.

No reboots during the day, but two sleep of death's. Maybe the SOD and reboot issues are related.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daevus:
I've been noticing something odd... The reason I thought I had reboots during the day is because when I return to the device of an evening, all apps are returned to default state - so my IRC client has disconnected and quit, my browser has no pages open etc.

But when I look at the "uptime" in the tablet status in settings, it is still at around 188 hours or something. So maybe it's not even rebooting?

Need to catch the thing in the act!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daevus:
Okay, caught one. It was a reboot. Though the "uptime" stat in status now shows 259 hours :)

Presumably the uptime is from last power down or something...

Incidentally, this was without an SD card or micro SD card in the tablet at all, but with it docked.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elziko:
I have done a little more testing and found that, in my case, the reboots are not due to the microSD card. I had a few reboots without a card plugged in.

What I have found, though, is that the reboots always seem to follow the playing of a video. This may explain why I thought it was connected with the microSD card - because I would often play a video from the card.

So for me, all I have to do is play a video for a short while and the exit the player. Then, perhaps 50% of the time my TF reboots shortly after falling asleep.

Can anyone else connect their reboots to playing videos?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaNsA:
Ive been running CWM and Prime v1.5 for the past 24hrs (ish).

Complete data and cache wipe etc.

Playing Need for Speed:Shift just now and a small "info box" appeared, similar to when you install an app and it informs you of "xxxxx Shortcut created"

This time it said "refresh failed" then 10secs later the TF rebooted.

TF101-16Gb-4Gb mircoSDHC inserted.

Hope this info helps someone out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkonex:
After getting my Transcend 16GB microSD class 6 card and removing the SD card I had in the dock on Friday, I have had no more random reboots, could just be luck but looks promising.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skydirt:
i think i am experiencing something similar. I'm not getting a "reboot" but rather my device powers down randomly. Ill hit the power button and place it down on my desk.when i go to picki it up and press the power but5on, the screen comew on at the Asus splash screen and powers up.

No dock, no micro sd.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afichman:
reboots

Guys, i think that is because the instability of Honeycomb

let's wait for the update and i think it would better
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rootblock:
Stock 3.1, not rooted, and yes I have witnessed random reboots. A lot of people in this thread have been talking about SDs or MicroSDs they have inserted, but I wouldn't expect that to do with the cause.

Does anyone know Android's log file locations? If so, I'm assuming you need root to check them. Let's try and get to the bottom of this.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] player911:
+1

Same Scenario. I noticed several weird things.

First I was transferring a bunch of MP3's to my internal Storage. When the screen turned off, I started getting "Device is busy" messages. When I turned the screen back on, it presumed coping. I had to sit there and tap on the screen while 6gb of music copied over.

Also I noticed, last night I was playing those MP3's while bouncing around, on and off the tablet and a few other tasks. When the screen turned off, the music would continue, but once it ended... the next song wouldn't start for like 5 minutes. There was like a 5 minute pause in between songs when the screen was off.

I ended up passing out while trying to listen to music, and it eventually stopped all together. This morning I found it off. Every morning, charging or not... it seems like it is off. It is either locked up or off. I have to hold the power button for a few seconds for it to power back on. Sometimes I hit the power button and lay it down to find it "off".

I'm running Prime 1.5, no micro or standard SD.

It wouldn't really be a big deal but it seems to still eat battery while in this "off" phase.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkonex:
Been over 1 week now after taking my SD card out of the dock, no more random reboots, and they were happening to me daily so I'm pretty sure that fixed it for me for whatever reason.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zillah1985:
I just had a random reboot while docked. Then my wifi couldn't detect my router and then had to restart. Tsk tsk.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnTrans:
I've had a few reboots while undocked too. I'm going to try to see if removing the SD helps in dock mode.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sassafras_:
When there is a kernel panic it records the working dmesg log to a file called RAMDUMP and puts it in your /sdcard/ root folder (not the MicroSD).

If you want, post it up here to maybe see what is going on.

sassafras
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnTrans:
Here's my ramdump.

There seems to be some corrupted chars near the bottom and i'm not sure what that means
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sassafras_:
I'm seeing a theme in these.

It's usually the suspend process timing out - this kicks the watchdog program in the kernel into causing a kernel panic and forcing a reboot. I think there is a bug in the suspend process specifically in a file called suspend.c in the Tegra code for the kernel.

Reading through the source though, there doesn't seem to be any obvious problem though without writing it myself or studying it too thoroughly, I can't speak too confidently about it.

I think it's safe to say that it's a bug in the kernel -- probably in suspend.c in the tegra extension of the kernel. If anyone else who can read/write in c would help, I'd love it.

sassafras
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sassafras_:
Any brave souls want to help me test a workaround solution for this problem?

As it stands, the system is set to 'kernel panic' when it encounters a kernel 'oops'. A kernel 'oops' is like a soft-fault, it's not catastrophic, but it's not good either. A kernel 'panic' however, is very bad. Essentially it's a BSOD in linux. It looks like most of these random reboots are caused by a race condition (google it) with the suspend process when the device tries to wake up or go to sleep. From what I can tell, this isn't a major bug - but by being told to panic it forces a reboot when it's not really necessary.

The workaround (this is not a fix) is to tell the kernel to be OK with the oops and not panic. The upshot is that this may keep your device from rebooting five times a night, but then again, if this problem is just an oops that's begging to be a kernel panic, then you might have the infamous 'SOD' where you'll have to hard reset your device.

The test is simple. Just go to the terminal emulator (or connectbot or whatever) and type:

su

to gain root. Superuser will ask for permission, be sure to allow it.

Then type

echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/panic_on_oops

This won't survive a reboot so if you do run into problems, just hard reset and it will revert itself.

Anyone who helps me test this is awesome :)

sassafras
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sassafras_:
If it helps anyone - I applied this workaround to my device and have yet to experience another reboot.

sassafras
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnTrans:
Actually my reboot problem has mostly gone away after I removed my SD card. I'll give your fix a try
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bob Smith42:
The other day I took off my tin-foil hat, and I started getting nervous.

What if this is not only a problem with the SD card in the dock?

Might it also be a problem with the USB ports in the dock?

Maybe it is a problem with all USB/SD hosts on Android 3.1?

Maybe this problem is preventing ASUS from releasing USB/SD accessories?

Maybe ASUS is working secretly with Google to fix this problem in the 3.2 release?

Maybe I need to order a dock newer than B60, like B70 or B90 or something?

Maybe ASUS is monitoring this problem on my tablet?

Maybe ASUS is monitoring this forum?

Maybe ASUS is monitoring my post?

Then I put back on my tin-foil hat, took some meds, and everything is getting better. ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkonex:
It's been like 3 weeks now after I took out my SD card and no more reboots, and I was getting them multiple times per day so mine definitely had something to do with the SD card. I have had a 16GB microSD card I bought instead in the tablet itself the whole time too so it seems the microsd is fine to keep in.