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[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
After looking at Qualcomm's site about 1x Advanced and EVDO Rev B, which should be supported on the EVO 3D, I'd be happy with 1x Advanced for voice and EVDO Rev b (Especially Rev B with HW upgrade) for voice/data for the next few years.

1x Advanced is supposed to give 70% more coverage then CDMA 1X with better voice quality, and EVDO Rev B is supposed to do 9.3mbs down/5.4mbs up. If they do the hardware upgrade, as part of Network Vision for EVDO Rev B, we could see speeds of 14.7mbs down and 5.4mbs up. Those speeds are faster then my home cable connection!!
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
What i was really getting at was wtf would the point in having LTE on all freq since WiMax is on 2.5GHz. having WiMax and LTE both on 2.5GHz is kinda pointless imho less they are going away with WiMax.
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
Sprint including 800mhz ESMR at the final hour, will give the phone 1X Advanced support once it's included in that frequency. 1X Advanced doesn't mean automatic SVDO. It's a complimentary feature that will be included in Qualcomm's future devices, but unfortunately it's not available in the EVO 3D. MDM9600 as right now, is the only processor officially out that has that support. Future Sprint devices will contain a multimodal chip that will support all frequencies including whatever 4G Sprint uses, and the EVO 3D doesn't include that chip. Once Network Vision is officially lit, everything will be included in your devices. Short story, voice + data is still 4G or WiFi.
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
It's not pointless... What it does is gets LTE into their handset and with the new FCC ruling on data roaming, it would allow them to roam on Verizon or whoever else that offers LTE, at reasonable rates. It also gives them time to reallocate their spectrum for eventual LTE at different frequencies, while giving their customers LTE.

If I were Sprint, I'd start LTE where I have the spectrum (2.5ghz band); in the handsets, I'd be sure to have antennas for 700, 800, 1900mhz and the 2.5 ghz band for it's initial native roll out. I'd cut a deal with Verizon and whoever else that I can roam on to offer my customers LTE. With that done, I'd start reallocating my spectrum holding... kill of iDen and use 1X Advance at 800mhz, use 5x5 at 800mhz for LTE, and as more of my customers got handsets that can use 1X advanced, I'd start the switch over to LTE at 1900mhz.

I think Sprint trying to release LTE at 800 or 1900mhz, as it's starting point, would cause to much of a mess because the current customer base is using those bands with CDMA, EVDO and iDen, so you can just turn it off.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
LTE on 5x5 would be pointless, with that much bandwidth the speeds would be the same as their current EVDO network.
[HTC EVO 3D] lafester:
i don't think we are ever going to be able to roam on vzw's lte network.
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
It is possible...we could roam on at&t or metro pcs
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
5x5 would be pointless, when it comes to shear speed, but it's good for marketing since you can get cover good coverage with less towers and great building penetration.

This might sound strange, but I can see running 2.5ghz for speed, on top of 800mhz for in building coverage. I'm not sure how it would work, if you started in a building and walked out, but if if your outside and walk in, coverage with 5x5 at 800 mhz is better then losing 4G service and draining your battery because it's searching.

BTW, wouldn't being limited to 5x5 at 800mhz only occur if Sprint goes with FDD LTE? With TDD, couldn't they grab 10 from 800 and 10 from 1900mhz or some other band?
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
That's where the recent FCC decision comes into play. Like voice services, carriers now have to resell data at cost competitive rates.
[HTC EVO 3D] THEGAMEPLAY94:
i believe they are going to set it up where when you have a great signal say -85dbm it will be on 2.5ghz but as the signal decrease to something like 90 or 95dbm it will switch to 1.9ghz but 800mhz would come in to play in buildings and fringe areas
[HTC EVO 3D] crabjoe:
I still don't see how that would work, assuming you're talking about over lapping coverage.

I see it working if you're going moving from outside to inside, but if you're in a building and using 800 mhz and are walking out, wouldn't you still be stuck on 800 mhz, since it's signal will also be getting stronger?

Normally it wouldn't matter what frequency it was running on, but in Sprint's case, they don't have enough spectrum in the 800mhz band for speeds like we're seeing on Verizon's LTE.

Anyone know if a cable partner or someone else that might have spectrum in the 800 mhz band that Sprint could use to get 10x10?

BTW, does anyone know if LTE Advanced is more efficient then the current flavor of LTE? I'm asking if LTE Adv. can carry more data using the same spectrum, much like CDMA 1x Advanced can carry more voice traffic on the same spectrum as CDMA 1x.
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
we do..i guess?
[HTC EVO 3D] Whosdaman:
You are right. They are going to choose what is best for each tower. Like if in your area there is lots of buildings 800mhz will be used. If you are in an area where there are a lot of people, 2.5 ghz, if it's a combination of both 1900mhz
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
That there is something people tend to forget about. 800MHz is not always better than 2.5GHz. lotta things to take into play and mainly its land and density of people that will be on that tower. Getting full signal but being connected to a tower that is overpopulated with ppl isn't going to yield the best result still.

Thats why the network vision upgrade should be a huge improvement for everyone across the board. I do wonder if with the upgrades that the radios would be able to change freq real time depending on the situation since ppl move around and would change the loads of towers constantly.

Like if your in a high populated area and typically connect to 1900/2.5GHz for 4G, say people leave and the load on 800MHz is avg to low, would your phone then automatically switch to 800MHz?

OR, is the project mainly for sprint to set the freq of the towers on the fly and not every tower will be broadcasting all 3 freq, but sprint could change the freq's almost instantly if they see changes over time in specific areas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] werdna87:
Stock Gingersense Debloated (For now)

http://www.multiupload.com/NF7XM73HV3

i have removed MANY useless apps. tell me if i have forgotten anything."

as i have time i will try to update this but im really new to roms so i might need help.

Baised off of http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1087077
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
This has already been done. Liberation ROM by jaykresge here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1087268

Unless you wanted add your own flavor or something:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] werdna87:
yah i think once i get down how to do it i will add my own flavor but for now i was also thinking of ADDING some apps (rom manager ect.) to make it easier. as i said this is my first rom though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rlacrossjr:
I think someone should make the stock gingersense with the new 3.0 lockscreen. The new beta gingersense 2.1/3.0 are laggy do to the higher demand on RAM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] werdna87:
ill try that. i already deleted some of the APK's but ill see if i can get the 3.0 lockscreen working. thanks for the suggestion
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rosser725:
You should give it a try
[Droid Incredible Android Development] werdna87:
ok i just tried adding it. im doing a backup then i will see how it works.

EDIT: nvm i dound what i did wrong... i had it all in an extra folder XD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wildstang83:
Its kinda hard to know whats wrong with your file. It would be easier to trouble shoot if you gave your steps step by step that you took to make/compile this. Without looking at your file I could take two guesses. 1. Its not zipped properly. 2. Your update-script is messed up somewhere. Check those. Then move forward from there.

Note: If you are using CWM3+ on your test phone then you will have to use edify scripting.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] werdna87:
sucessfuly flashed it... booting right now and ill tell you my results

No go on the lockscreen. it just booted as vanilla.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
This would be my suggestion. I like the 3.0 lock screen, but it seems to be a memory hog.

What I'd like to see in a 2.1 ROM

-Vanilla lockscreen.

-3.0 Notification bar with slight transparency - white.

-Lots of cool stock looking wallpapers and any other LWP if they don't lag.

-Our KB, not the one with arrows.

Just an over all smooth stock rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Amphibliam:
This is a 1.0 ROM. And to get vanilla in 2.1 go menu>settings>display>stock android lockscreen. Also, the arrows one is in 3.0.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
The 3.0 lockscreen will likely never work on DInc GingerSense, unless your name is IHTFP69. It's just incompatible with Sense 1.0.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] werdna87:
yea i figured that out... i changed the lockscreen APK and it put in in a bootloop
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ageangel:
I have been having this problem for some time now at first it was only when i on 3g and only reboot once after that it will take a long time to reactivate,

but now it keep rebooting after the bp panic id even before i could do anything, when i on it auto bp panic id then rboot and all over again, i can't send for repair i want to know if it has got to do anything with the version i am using,

i am on 2.2.1 the froyo thing or something,

and i live in singapore..

is there any way to fix this as as soon as i manage to fix it by today i want to sell it straight away.

The problem is like this one in the video

http**://*.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Od9fMOGHk

remove the * to view the video

and add the www
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] mohA™:
just reflash full flash again with rsd

ur baseband will upgrade again
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] deathnote013:
i got the same problem..

i flashed couple of times but still

BP panic.. and then reboots and reboots...

is there any way we can fix this?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] lrfabreu:
Did you solved your problem with BP Paniced error??
[Android Software Development] wauterboi:
Here's the MyTouch 4G specific discussion.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=14613522#post14613522 <- (This should be deleted)

Alright, so I did this mock-up to explain:

This is my idea of a pretty neat launcher. Let me explain.

It's a giant launcher where everything is made up of "panels" which is essentially what a widget would be normally, except instead of small icons and widgets making up a grid, you would rather make up this entire tower of "panels" you can scroll through like so:

Once you reach the bottom (like so), you have the option of adding or entering edit mode in which you can change the placement of panels, configure panels, or add more. Also notice the stationary panels at the top and bottom. I figure the top would could be configurable to look however you like or replaced with another replacement panel made for staying at the top at all times. (i.e. you can't replace it with a Last.FM panel, you would have to go about finding a panel that is absolutely meant to be at the top.)

I figure this could also be a pretty accessible thing for everyone in terms of making new panels. Someone would release the base panel code, and then people can configure it to do some pretty neat things, I figure.

I dunno, this just seemed kind of cool in my opinion. I can think of all sorts of panels and stuff like that too - a Favorites/Folder panel, gallery panel, music panel... etc.

Also, I threw this mock-up together pretty fast. :P I figure the Facebook and Twitter panels would have more to it, heh. :P

So whatcha think?

EDIT: On a side note, what I was imagining isn't really widget status where you can interact with it so much - you click on it or the link or whatever corresponds with whatever (i.e. you click on a tweet) and it brings you to where you need in order to comment on it or like it through FB and what not. :P

EDIT2: I can't develop for Android. I dunno how. I just threw this idea out in the open for everyone.
[Android Software Development] rogier666:
Your launcher would require lots of scrolling, and apps that only need a single icon would always occupy an entire row.

If you can fit four or five panels in a thin row (such small pannels would resemble app icons) you may be on to something, but else you'll just repeat the flaws of WP7 with its oversized tiles. Bigger is not always better.
[Android Software Development] wauterboi:
Not necessarily. With what I was thinking you could make folder panels which contain a bunch of apps. You click the folder, then you select the app. :P
[Android Software Development] wauterboi:
Here's some ideas for panels I pulled out of my brain:
[Android Software Development] redbullcat:
Hmm. Where would the app drawer go? It's a nice idea for a launcher though, I like it :)
[Android Software Development] wauterboi:
In the first post, there's a panel that says, "Running Apps," and if you slide to the left it would open the app drawer. :P
[Android Software Development] rogier666:
Why click twice if one click could do the job?
[Android Software Development] wauterboi:
There's also a "Favorites" panel where you slide left or right and pick the icon. *shrugs* If you don't like it, you don't like it though. :P
[Android Software Development] NihilisticWonder:
Well, this surely is the most original and most interesting idea for a Android launcher :-) But I must admit it really is clumsy...but...if you figure out a good and easy way to put those panels together and to navigate through them...What if you can move through more screens and on every one of these screens you would be able to built a different tower ? Ex. screen 1 - social tower (twitter, Facebook, ICQ,...) , screen 2 - media tower (camera, music player,..) etc. , also it would be very impractical to make calls if you put dialer in one of the towers so what about a roll UP menu...when you slide down you could see phone stats, maybe some controls, when you slide up (or put a little button like on stock android to bring up apps) a dialer, contacts, sms, etc. will come up ?
[Android Software Development] Mano1982:
Really great idea, i loved it & i really hope someone will make this launcher for Android :) NihilisticWonder has good points & i am agree..
[Android Software Development] wauterboi:
Yeah, that's what the bottom bar on the first one was for, lol. :P

But yeah, multiple towers would be pretty damn sexy. :)
[Android Software Development] lws803:
Hmmm this could make the best minimalistic UI :)
[Android Software Development] swee08315:
Kinda reminds me of slidescreen (which is a nice launcher replacement, look it up in the market)

but in slide screen there is no app drawer and to go to your apps you push your phones "menu" button
[Android Software Development] sacredsoul:
Yep same thoughts :)
[Android Software Development] aydc:
I've been looking for a launcher like this since the day I used Launcher 7 which is a clone of Windows Phone 7 launcher. What I understood when I used it was, vertical swiping is much much more natural than horizontal swiping and homescreens should slide vertically, not horizontally. WP 7 launcher is too basic. What we need is something like you describe.

If SlideScreen had the option to add widgets and icons, we'd get something very close to what we want, but the developers don't seem interested in that. I'm thinking of learning how to code for Android just to make a launcher like this.
[Android Software Development] siravarice:
Sounds and looks like a good idea, but I wouldn't use it unless it looked very clean. I hate stuff with clutter. This has some real potential though, like a love child of android and wp7.
[Android Software Development] PUERTO_RUK:
I definitely agree with Adyc and the OP. The stock Android launcher and most UIs are boring. I know the developers put a lot of work into them and I'm grateful for that. Even with the plethora of launchers out there, there aren't many that have a lot of good eye candy. I'm tempted to go home abroad really learn how to code for Android after looking at this. This is a great idea. Sounds like it would blend elements of launcher 7 and the honeycomb launcher. If it were to contain some 3d elements (like the selected panels rotating like a carousel or popping out) that would be SO damn sick.
[Android Software Development] egzthunder1:
Call me crazy, but what you just mocked up is an Android version of Titanium, the standard launcher for WM6.1 and above.
[Android Software Development] dragonithe:
Hmm, intresting idea.

I might combine this whit some old sketches I made some time ago to look if it can be made into a clean and minimal layout.

edit:

maybe also look at how some things in kite ui have been done.

Edit 2:

Here's my first take on this launcher.
[Android Software Development] ruvort:
That does clean it up some and make it feel more functional :)
[Android Software Development] Connor1:
So essentially you're making a more elaborate Slidescreen.
[Android Software Development] ruvort:
Seems like it. But its rather not a bad idea.

Sent from my Droid Incredible 2
[Android Software Development] dragonithe:
Changed some basic stuff and made the drawer a swype instead of a icon.
[Android Software Development] jmbillings:
I quite like the original idea from this post... but it would definitely need some thoughts on commonly accessed "panels" - as someone else mentioned, I don't want to have to scroll around just to find the dialler, or message / mail panel.

Perhaps the fixed bottom panel could include icons for those most-used features - rather like I have in CM7; where the fixed panel along the bottom has 5 icons, and I've put things like dialler, contacts, browser and the app-drawer icon. Other than that; the idea has some potential, definitely.
[Android Software Development] sjknight413:
isnt this just the same idea as slidescreen? that was never too popular if i remember rightly...
[Android Software Development] dragonithe:
As I see it, not really.

Slide screen has one page where you move a bar to reveal some content.

This is more like WP7, but instead of live tiles you have some small widgets that display a small proportion of information.and whit a swipe they will open up the app or change the screen into a page that only has all the information of that particular item.
[Android Software Development] manderson8898:
To me this homescreen looks a lot like the Spark home replacement.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Willis111:
Hey, I'm on rogers in Canada and was having a hell of a time getting rooted 2.3.3 on my phone without unlocking the bootloader(no point in unlocking the BL for just root .... especially w/the warranty problems). I figured I'd give Working Root on 2.3.3 ! :) a try but had trouble finding the right firmware to downgrade to and when I tried to update OTA it kept failing after downloading and trying to install it (looked like it went all the way through the process but the phone would reboot and say "update failed").

1./ Did a clean install of the Xperia_Play_Release_Generic_UK.ftf (it's .184) with flashtool and then re-setup my apns to get 3g etc working. I downloaded the generic ftf off a thread on these forums but couldn't remember exactly which thread so I recompressed it and uploaded it to multiupload to make it a little easier to get all the needed files

2./ Rooted with Chainfire's Gingerbreak apk

3./ OTA update and it worked (before I did a clean install I was having the ota update fail, probably because I had removed a few system apps via root uninstall, I just made sure that all I did this time after the fresh install was root and then update)

Note on Gingerbreak: I've seen this exploit take 5 minutes or a few hours to grant root on devices. Be patient, if it's still hasn't worked try re-seating or swapping your memory card for a different one and try again. Also be sure you're on 2.3.2, SE patched gingerbreak in their release of 2.3.3.

[FAQ]

1./ I don't have ota updates available in my country, will this still work for me?

Answer: Yes, this installs the global firmware to your phone, after that your phone will look for global updates rather than carrier specific updates.

2./

Answer

step 1./ google your carriers apn settings

step 2./ enter them in settings/wireless & networks/mobile network settings/Access Point Names (make sure you set up your mms apn if you want working mms as well, info for your carrier is available on google, that's where I found mine.)

step 3./ Profit
[Xperia Play Android Development] Deleted member 2488575:
thanks just to clarify.

We can use a rogers branded xperia play and flash the uk firmware? will it not mess up anything?
[Xperia Play Android Development] speedyink:
Not at all. You just have to re-setup your apn settings.

I'm using a Rogers Play on the UK firmware on a Bell sim card :D
[Xperia Play Android Development] thatsupnow:
Thanks for that man I'm gonna give it a go right now

update: hells yea boy! it worked! it worked! rooted 2.3.3!!!!!!!
[Xperia Play Android Development] emann56:
You beat me to the punch:p , I was gonna try that last night but was having connect to network problems.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Willis111:
@Emann56 - Was still your idea, just figured I'd try it with a fresh install of a different firmware and post my epic results. All thanks goes to you and whoever helped with your thread ofc and especially Chainfire!

That was my reaction too :P Still can't wait for CM7 on this puppy though tbh.
[Xperia Play Android Development] awoken:
Will this work in the Netherlands or will there be no OTA update available?
[Xperia Play Android Development] thatsupnow:
Yea man I had cm 6.1.3 on my x10 and I loved it! Already loving the rooted 2.3.3!
[Xperia Play Android Development] Willis111:
You would have to find that out for yourself, it's in settings/about phone/Software Update/Update Now. If this says no updates available then I guess OTA updates aren't available in that region at the moment.
[Xperia Play Android Development] speedyink:
Oh god yes please. I miss my power control in notification and the screen on/off animations :(
[Xperia Play Android Development] yohandesilva1:
thanks ma man worked like a champ.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Willis111:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14690329&postcount=29

that's what I think, basically your phone will stop asking for Netherlands ota updates and search the net for UK updates.
[Xperia Play Android Development] axiomjunglist:
Willis111 is right, I performed the process here in the US today and no troubles finding the OTA update, despite the message there was no OTA before I flashed to .184 UK generic. Should work for you as well.
[Xperia Play Android Development] Willis111:
Thanks for confirming
[Xperia Play Android Development] Montechristo1979:
Thanks for the thread. Just one question. I'm on 2.3.3 (no root) and dont want to wait longer for a working 2.3.3 GingerBreak. But i want to keep all my apps/settings. Can i downgrade to .184 UK generic without losing all my data?

Edit:

Another question:

If i dont do a clean install...what about the apns? Will they stay too? In my own thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14705145&postcount=4

FrAsErTaG said that i can choose to not flash the userdata. I already found the option within the Flashtool. Are my apns a part of the userdata or will they get overwritten/deleted anyway?

Edit: Forget everything. It worked :D

I didnt wipe anything or "clean" my system. I just did the downgrade. After that, i got 1 issue. I always got this message: "android.process.acore has stopped". Google said that this is an issue with synchronize the contacts, etc. But i didnt freak out :D I just installed GingerBreak, did the root, then the OTA, and after OTA everything was fine again. Now i have full rooted 2.3.3 :)