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[Eee Pad Transformer General] Paradaz:
You know it is a file config fix for the speakers? You may be kicking yourself if that was your only problem and you now have one with lightbleed!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ria_drizzt:
Paradaz, I found that out after sending it back to Amazon. :-(

I am kicking myself and doing it pretty hard.

I also found out I get the pleasure of paying shipping costs because I bought my second one through Newegg (Amazon was out so could only refund at the time).

I have decided the screen separation is making me too nervous, so here's to hoping the 3rd time is a charm.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jadesse:
Mine should arrive tomorrow or Tuesday I bought it through Wal-Mart .com. I'll report back if I see any issues mentioned. These things are selling like hot cakes though, it pretty amazing.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] degeneration:
Mine should show up from Amazon tomorrow and I am all paranoid by everyone having issues so either I will be back and sobbing about it or I might not be heard from for a week.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] walkamongus:
I got my third from New Egg a week or so ago and so far it is virtually flawless. I say virtually because there is the tiniest bit of light bleed along the bottom but it is so slight that its unnoticeable unless pointed out (even on a black screen).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] madsquabbles:
I'm on number 3 also. build is tighter than the other 2, but the first was tight in the beginning too. still has bleed and speaker balance issues. I've done the tweaks and used volume+. my only fear is blowing a speaker now.

hoping I have a keeper this time.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] matrix311:
Mine seems perfect to me. I must be one of the rare lucky ones.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] hauj0bb:
No issues here, have owned my TF for a week now.

-No random SODs

-No light bleed

-No speaker issues

-No touch response problems

-No creaky bezel issues

Guess I lucked out?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Pisugtooq:
Each time I think I've finally convinced myself that I am going to keep my current Transformer, I stumble upon one of these threads. As much as I love the device, my OCD has me looking for defects whenever I have it in my hands. I received mine from Newegg Friday and this is what I've noticed so far:

- Minor light bleed along the bottom when in landscape mode. Nothing too serious but definitely noticeable when in a dark room and the bottom of the screen is black. I tend to think this is going to be the case with all these screens.

- Right speaker louder than the left. Seems almost universal. I ran a Left/Right speaker test and, although it isn't an overwhelming difference, the right is clearly louder. Perhaps this is simply a matter of the openings/slots on the right side?

- One speck of dust under the screen in the upper left corner an inch below the Asus logo.

- What appears to be a dead/stuck Pixel in the right corner. Didn't notice this initially as it only appears clearly against certain backgrounds. When I ran a pixel test, there was a black dot about the size of a pin point against bright blue backgrounds in that spot. Very hard to notice against other colors.

- Screen separation: I notice no defect on that front. Maybe the slightest separation on the right side where the mini HDMI port is... the main problem is me looking like a moron every time my girlfriend walks in the room and I'm intently starting at a turned off tablet.

I'm debating returning it to Newegg but then I worry that it is mostly a matter of me obsessively looking to find fault and that I'll end up with a worse one if I exchange it. I haven't returned anything to Newegg in years - you said they required the buyer to pay shipping?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Freelancerx:
lol when i read that i laughed hard
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dude2k5:
had a scare with mine, couldnt recharge it. But I was rooted, maybe it had something to do with it. The charger itself might have had a problem, but its ok now. Everything else is perfect. I've had mine for almost 3 weeks and it still works flawlessly. I show everyone my device and they are amazed :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dorino1:
I would return this in an instant. The dust and stuck pixel would drive me insane!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Pisugtooq:
Each time I think I've finally convinced myself that I am going to keep my current Transformer, I stumble upon one of these threads. As much as I love the device, my OCD has me looking for defects whenever I have it in my hands. I received mine from Newegg Friday and this is what I've noticed so far:

- Minor light bleed along the bottom when in landscape mode. Nothing too serious but definitely noticeable when in a dark room and the bottom of the screen is black. I tend to think this is going to be the case with all these screens.

- Right speaker louder than the left. Seems almost universal. I ran a Left/Right speaker test and, although it isn't an overwhelming difference, the right is clearly louder. Perhaps this is simply a matter of the openings/slots on the right side?

- One speck of dust under the screen in the upper left corner by the Asus logo.

- What appears to be a dead/stuck Pixel in the right corner. Didn't notice this initially as it only appears against certain backgrounds. However, when I run a pixel test, it is visible against certain backgrounds.

- Screen separation: I notice no defect on that front. Maybe the slightest separation on the right side where the mini HDMI port is... the main problem is me looking like a moron every time my girlfriend walks in the room and I'm intently starting at a turned off tablet.

I'm debating returning it to Newegg but then I worry that it is mostly a matter of me obsessively looking to find fault and that I'll end up with a worse one if I exchange it. I haven't returned anything to Newegg in years - you said they required the buyer to pay shipping?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] hollywould:
Mine too, and I'll add no battery drain issue.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sic_lic1o1:
I'm on number 4. Just got another 1 replacement from amazon yesterday, the build quality got better from the last 2 i got but this new 1 has worse light bleeding out of the 4 i got. I'm still thinking if i should keep the 3rd one i got and return the new one i just got from amazon or just return everything and get the samsung. Hard decision because i really like the transformer but the light bleeding is kind of annoying
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
I've received two units that I've opened (the others were sold unopened).

Both units have no issues beyond *extremely* minimal light bleed that is normal on any tablet screen, and not obtrusive in the least. One has a very slight gap at one short point in the bezel, barely twice the width of a human hair, if that.

You'd have to be beyond OCD to be unhappy with build quality on either of my tabs. And I didn't return any to get them.

But frankly I think plenty of people *are* beyond OCD, and expect a level of perfection that's simply not realistic.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] aMoshe:
It seems to be quite an issue, with the defected hardware. my came with a problematic power button which got worse with every use. now I can't lock/unlock the screen, can't turn it off and If I do manage to turn it off the only way to boot it would be to connect it to power. Today hopefully I will get it replaced.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dhamma110:
Mine is perfect. I had a light cracking on the right side the first weeks, but it is gone now. I am very happy with my transformer. Browser scrolling could be better .

Nothing to complain.;)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] coasterman927:
Light bleed is unavoidable, I think. It's natural on IPS displays. It happens on the ultra-quality controlled iPad 2, it's gonna happen on our Transformers.

So if you take light bleed out of the equation (and it's really not noticeable on mine unless I'm working in the dark), I'd say I have a "perfectly manufactured" Transformer.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
The light bleed is not a defect of IPS displays, not at all. The light bleed is unavoidable to an extent with all edge-lit displays, whether they have an IPS panel, a *VA panel, or even a lowly TN. It's not the LCD that causes the light bleed. It's the LED backlights.

As a note, most tablets, laptops, and etc. from the past few years have used edge-lit backlights rather than traditonal backlights or the age-old CCFL. Edge-lit displays are thinner, cheaper, and lighter. It's not an IPS issue, it's a backlight issue, and it's worth it to not have a tablet an inch and a half thick. That being said, quality control on LCD displays is abysmal.

The iPad displays weren't checked by Apple, either. They were ordered in bulk from the manufacturer of the panels, IIRC, LG. LG makes all IPS panels on the market right now and owns the rights to the technology.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dawizel:
I read all of these complaints about a little light bleed near the bottom of the screen in landscape. Guess what, I also have both the Transformer and an Ipad 2, and the Ipad 2 has MORE light bleed than the Transformer. You should go to an ipad forum and read all of their complaints. I also have experienced while using the ipad the need to double tap to open apps and "force closures". The Transformer is an excellent tablet. Google needs to continue to mature the OS. I enjoy both my Transformer and the ipad 2, with all their faults.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] coasterman927:
Ah, the more you know! I don't know where I heard that this was an IPS-specific problem. Makes sense that it's edge-lit displays that have this problem.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mmoran27:
I went through 4 at Frys

1st had bad bleed

2nd had a bad sd card reader

3rd had dust particles under screen

4th had bad bleed as well

5th still has bleed but I am keeping it.

i am not OCD the manager at Frys was opening these for me nd suggested I keep the last one.

they all will have some issue. Nothing is perfect
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericc191:
I'm not trying to say people are lying, but I don't think it's currently possible to have an IPS screen without light bleed. I would like to be wrong, though.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Hawkian:
I have some light bleed, I didn't realize it wasn't expected. Hmmm.

Oh nevermind.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ione2380:
My transformer has no light bleed whatsoever, not even in the dark, bealive it or not. No other defects either.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
You are wrong. Any WLED or RGBLED display will not have lightbleed since they aren't edge-lit.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericc191:
Are there any phones or tablets currently using this other technology?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
Nearly ever single phone currently in production has WLED or RGBLED lighting. Tabletwise no because it's relatively expensive.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericc191:
I'm not getting much when google searching RGB LED or WLED. When I say IPS, I mean iPad 2, G2x, Transformer. All of these are plagued by light bleed. AMOLED obviously doesn't have this issue and LCD doesn't have it as much. All three of those devices get their displays from LG, I think, too. Basically, in my limited exposure to IPS displays: the ones I listed and two 1080p monitors, all had light bleed.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] seshmaru:
It's not because of them being IPS panels, and IPS panels ARE LCD's. AMOLED panels don't have this problem because they have an RGBLED backlight since RGBLED is all Samsung uses, they also make the only AMOLED panels.

Also as you said:

I'm a graphic designer, I need to know the details of panel types since I need the most even colour distribution and the most accurate colour representation.

Also all professional high end screens are IPS panels, and monitors for professionals don't come in 1080p either. Just accept the fact that it's not because they are IPS panels.

For more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlight
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericc191:
Okay, then what I meant is I don't think there are any edge lit displays out there that don't have bleed.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] checkbox111:
+ Four as i don't know what an SOD is :confused:

I suppose an ideal tablet could look like this, it would be about 5mm thick, weigh about 100g, be a solid as a rock and unbreakable, but it, like the one pictured doesn't exist yet, so i'll stick with the Transformer which is about as perfect as you're going to get at the moment.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] madsquabbles:
i've never had an amoled screen, but i thought they didn't have use backlight as the panel itself emitted the light.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ria_drizzt:
You know I have really never considered myself a picky person, and I am pretty good about making the best of bad situations, but some of the people that have purchased these just blow my mind...

Why in the heck are you ok with paying 400 dollars for a BRAND NEW device and have it flawed. Now granted, I'm not talking about a little light bleeding, that apparently is evident on almost all of these types of screens, but I'm talking about some of the other more concerning flaws like the speakers being messed up and the screen-to-bezel separation.

To me this isn't even like buying a new car with a dent in it. It's like buying a new car with a wheel that doesn't sit properly on the axle.

I know, I know to each their own, but it just amazes me that people are not demanding perfection when it's clear other people have better units. Now that I know that much better units exist I am going to keep sending mine back until Newegg tells me I am at the limit, and if that last one isn't near perfect then I'm shipping it straight to ASUS. It will suck not having the tablet while they fix it, but at least I can feel assured that they will be able to fix it or make sure to send me one they know is manufactured better.

Here's to hoping the 3rd time is a charm in about a week.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] eb50:
sending mine back to newegg. they are covering the shipping

lower left corner is not flush and "pops" when i hold it. its getting worse as time passes (had it for 3 weeks now).

backlight in lower center is bleeding pretty bad. seems to be getting worse (or im getting less patient)

will report back to see how the new one looks and feels
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Wdustin1:
I just recieved mine today and it seems to be a very good build, a slight few spots of minor light bleed at the bottom nothing to return for my flat screen has more light bleed then this thing and it all seems to be great i would call mine "perfect" i guess although no such thing exist
[Eee Pad Transformer General] GeLopez:
Going back to the original question my answer is ...

Yes mine is perfect
[Eee Pad Transformer General] brunes:
People gotta understand that for every 1 person on XDA complaining about their TF there are 1000 people who have never even heard of XDA and own a TF, using it happily. Some of these people may have problems and some may not, but you can't judge the quality of a product soley behind complaints in a fairly-advanced user mobile device forum.

As far as "perfect", no device is perfect. I have had my TF about a month now. I have no problems with wifi, GPS, speakers, "creaking" or other issues. I do have some light bleed in the bottom left. But really, I don't give a crap. I have done a lot of reading on IPS displays to know that light bleed happens in all of them to one degree or another. I could exchange my TF 5 times before I got one with no bleed at all - and the bleed really is not even noticeable except at boot time, because at all other times the dock buttons obscure it.

Put it this way - my wife did not complain about the light bleed, I doubt she would know it existed unless I pointed it out, so really, I don't care. When she complains, i will start caring.

The TF is not perfect, but it is the best device on the market right now at it's price point. It has no real competition, no one is even close.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] 4dthinker:
Anyone after perfect is in for a big disappointment. Even if your device looks great the first day, just opening the box begins to wear it out. The case will scratch. The buttons will polish. Dust will find a way in. And so on. Just saying.

4D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dm36415:
"Does the perfect (manufactured) TF101 Exist?"

Yup, I own one
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Pisugtooq:
I decided on sending it back to Newegg - my main worry is that I will sacrifice two weeks of having the transformer only to receive a unit with even worse defects. I can live with minor light bleed but the dust under the screen and the dead pixel were a constant annoyance. Hoping for better luck..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Steve182:
Ive got a little bit of light bleed on the bottom and right side in landscape mode, but it doesnt bother me much, I dont notice it unless the app / website Im viewing has a really dark background.

I do have a small creak on the left rear, but its not that big of a deal. Certainly not worth returning, as my tablet works perfectly besides those "issues".
[Eee Pad Transformer General] akarol:
People claiming they have no light bleed simply have not looked properly. I doubt somebody has no bleed whatsoever.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jerrykur:
The speaker imbalance issue is a software problem. There is a fix in the development forum that requires rooting the unit. The other option is wait for Asus to integrate the correction.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] madsquabbles:
it actually seems to be a hardware problem as you have to increase the output of one speaker to match the sound of the other and possibly straining it in the process.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericc191:
This right here.

Also, I wouldn't say 1/1000 people complaining. More like 1/100-500.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] starplaya93:
Yeah, because turning off the lights and putting your TF on max brightness and looking at the edges of the screen is hard...

Or we're just all liars.

I do not have any light bleed whatsoever. I'v owned numerous devices with light bleed so I for one no what it is and how to test for it.

Many people have vouched for not having light bleed and their posts have just as much validity as any of yours, so stop trying to blow things out of proportion.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] GeLopez:
i have looked properly, and you can doubt whatever you want

MINE HAS NOOOOOOOOOO light bleed
[Eee Pad Transformer General] madsquabbles:
my first on had no light bleed. I tested it as soon as it came in as I saw the posts here. then 3 days later the bleed started. 10 days later my bezel felt like I could pull it apart and the bleed spread.

I treated my tf pretty gingerly, surely not ad rough as my iPad - I regulary toss it on the bed. I'd never do that with the tf.

so, it's possible to have one without bleed.

the way I use my tablets it easy to see bleed. I read a lot and read with black bg with red text.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Cory1234:
At least you don't have a dead pixel :(. I didn't notice mine for over a week because it is along the bottom black bar in the far left. It is only possible to see when in vertical mode with an all white screen. I guess it was missed in production because the black bar covers it up :(.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
My tablet arrived today.

Bad (really noticable, even in a well lit room!) backlight bleed, a piece of dust or crack in the screen (like a dead pixel, only it's only visible from certain angles?) and a stuck green pixel.

We'll see what number two holds!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
The screens aren't checked by Asus. They're ordered, in bulk, from LG, and only scrutinized to a very, very small extent once Asus has them in their possession.

That said, if the dead pixel is all you have, I'd keep it... If the bar covers it up, anyway. After all, do you use portrait that much? I don't.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Cerfer5:
Mine came in today as well. Very minor light bleed on the left side (I have to go looking for it though), solid build, no creaking, etc.

I like it much better than the iPad I used during the month of May. If it's not perfect, it's good enough for what I need it to do, and right now, it's the best in its class.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericc191:
I'm not going to call anyone a liar, but would the people without any light bleed what-so-ever post up a picture with max brightness in complete darkness. Might put that issue to bed for some folks, myself included.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] degeneration:
What is "bad" and "not so bad" for light leaks? I have 3 or 4 spots that I notice often enough but I don't want to go on a goose hunt for a golden ticket of a transformer.

EDIT: so I checked the bleed again and noticed a stuck pixel... sigh,guess I should just exchange it on amazon and get it over with...

Then trying to take a picture I noticed a second stuck pixel. One is pink, the other green. Surprisingly hard to notice though, but still bugs me.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kickingandscreaming:
How about you post pictures of light bleed so we know what to look for. Honestly, if light bleed means that the edges are brighter then the middle. I have zero light bleed. The edges of my transformer is the same brightness as the rest of the screen. If I tilt the transformer on the edge, it is pitch back along all the edges.

Could you post what light bleed looks like so we know what to look for?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] checkbox111:
Why don't those who have light bleed test their device in normal conditions? conditions that they actually use their device in :confused:

I have some psychological concern with people who would buy a device then turn the brightness up to max and go into a dark room and purposely look for a problem.

That's the real issue , and it's a mental one, there's something seriously wrong with your brain :confused:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] UKseagull:
I could see my lightbleed in normal daylight, it was most obvious on the black launcher bar at the bottom.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
Likewise. My device had plainly obvious bleed that I noticed immediately out of the box; in my living room, with the lights on. I went outside, and could still see it (though I had a hard time seeing anything else; the light bleed, though, was still obvious!)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stnel:
I am also on my second Transformer. The sound on the first one just died two days after the buy. I had bad light bleed on the first one, but luckily on the second one is just one tiny spot on the bottom barely noticeable.

Now, the psychological thing. The problem with me is that from a lot of products I bought in the last few years, every single one had (somtimes serious) issues. Being it a car, TV, washing machine, fridge, laptop, desktop.... you name it. And I did a lot of research before buying every single item, and often I choose to pay more for the same product just because it is made by a famous company. Now, to conclude, sometimes it is just enough trouble and I explode. I'm not having mental issues by noticing a flaw in a product I pay for. It's all about the moment and the mood I am in. So if at some moment I am so (cumulated) pissed that I just could not accept any flaw in a product I am able to go as far as to get it right.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] madsquabbles:
i'd say "not bad" is just a slightly brighter glow near the light sources at the bottom. you're not going to completely eliminate it so it's acceptable to have it slightly brighter on that side.

"bad" is have defined points of light. in my latest you can see all 4 at the bottom and one on the left.

my first was acceptable, but turned into a bright blob on the right side. second was blobby too but all over the bottom. the third has distinct and bright points. this latest is the worst. and yes it is visible in normal use - low light at lowest brightness.