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[HTC Sensation] EtherealRemnant:
We are talking about updates from Samsung. Since they unlocked the bootloader, this is a moot point.

In terms of raw performance and specifications, the GSII whips the Sensation on every point except resolution of the screen.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
No, the updates (or, more appropriately, lack thereof) are just an icing on the cake. I am talking about hardware issues, such as non-functional GPS and compass. Also, let's not forget the RFS system.

Raw performance and specifications are certainly nice, but how much weight do they carry in real-world usage?
[HTC Sensation] EtherealRemnant:
GPS seems to be fixed in SGSII and I personally had NO problems with it in the Captivate. RFS is easily remedied with EXT4 with a custom ROM.

Real world performance? I've used an imported SGSII and it smokes every device I've ever used from boot up to games to shut down...
[HTC Sensation] Teso Dos Bichos:
This is one reason why I am leaning towards the Galaxy S II. I need a new phone now and the Galaxy S II not only runs better out of the box but there is more scope for developer utilisation and refinement. At the moment the Sensation is running bloat in Sense, is poorly utilised in several areas (like browsing) and is still locked for the foreseeable future. I know benchmarks are all over the place and not optimised for dual core processors but I am speaking in general terms. The Galaxy S II is just 'snappy'. In a direct comparison I prefer the style and build quality of the Sensation along with the resolution of the qHD screen. I am not too bothered by Sense as I will be dicking around with everything anyway. The potential of the asynchronous processor is interesting but it is a guessing game in terms of development.

Ultimately adding a case to the Galaxy S II will alleviate the main issues I have in terms of style and build quality. As for the screen I will just need to deal with it. I have not made a decision yet but I simply do not like the risk associated with the Sensation in terms of development.
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
Some time on from using both of these phones, I think this is a fair comment -

You should ALWAYS opt for the Galaxy S II unless you greatly dislike something about it, and TouchWiz isn't a great reason given the support for the GalaxyS2.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Doesn't that mean that, once the bootloader is unlocked, the Sensation will also fly with a custom ROM?

Again, after the Galaxy S (in my case, the Vibrant), I have developed a serious aversion to Samsung's mobile products. If Samsung consistently releases and supports a few more phones, I'll be open to give them another shot. As for now, no thanks.
[HTC Sensation] jayvo:
You have got to be kidding me. Tell me you were joking when you said this.....:confused:
[HTC Sensation] EtherealRemnant:
HTC uses EXT3 out of the box. I don't see IO performance increasing much with a custom ROM short of overclocking.

To the below poster - Compare the specs and the reviews and get back to me. The SGSII may be a piece of plastic but the hardware, which is where it really counts, is INSANELY superior to the Sensation.

And yes, you can make a Focus into a fast and furious machine with lots of mods but the SGSII is that way out of the box.

Now on software updates... I don't have any faith in Samsung for Ice Cream Sandwich (which is where these multi-core chips will actually perform how they are supposed to) but the dev community for Samsung has proven time and again that they are on top of ****.
[HTC Sensation] SkilletDesire:
You guys can't accept the truth. Samsung have got it down packed this time if anything HTC has stuffed up the Sensation. I would go for Evo 3D or wait for Samsung to make the Nexus 3 with Super	Amoaled HD 720p display. Samsung is rumoured to be bringing out in September a stock 1.4Ghz dual core SGS2 with NFC to compete with the iPhone.
[HTC Sensation] pixel-painter:
There is still not proper support for dual core yet, and Sense 3 takes up about 65-85 MB of RAM. The graphic scores are bound to be lower since the Sensation has more pixels to push around the screen... about 25% more. This is really an advantage to me... more real estate to look at things.

But to answer your question, once unlocked there will be very significant speed improvements with the Sensation.

As early adopters of new technology, one has to expect some trial and error while the manufacturers are putting together their first OTA fixes. If none of you people want to deal with these bugs... wait until they are fixed... or stop crying and remember as an early adopter, there are always bugs to deal with. The question becomes, will the manufacturer fix them, in m opinion, HTC has done a pretty good job of dealing with bug issues in the past...so a good track record.
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
This whole thread is stupid. The SGS2 and Sensation are two completely different devices. Both can do the exact same things, although the SGS2 might be a tiny bit faster at doing those certain things. It's like I said before, do you want a Lamborghini, or a Bentley? Both are amazing, both are fast, one oozes luxury, and the other is a speed freak. Neither of them is a Ferrari -That'd be a combination of both. Think qHD Samoled+ in a Sensation Aluminum Chassis.
[HTC Sensation] SkilletDesire:
Thats why you should have got the SGS2 Samsung make memory, cpus, apple iPhone 5 A5, iPhone 4 A4 chips, sd cards etc, etc. HTC has to go through the middle man snapdragon, samsung thats why they are tight. The bloatware is unbelievable every htc I ever got put CM on it sense makes no sense.
[HTC Sensation] EtherealRemnant:
Bingo! Except I do like Sense - when it has enough RAM to not affect regular system usage...
[HTC Sensation] whmcal:
Sticking with the car analogy, (sorry, i'm an f1 fan...)

It's like comparing a ferrari to a red bull. The latter is may have a history marred by some minor flaws in previous models, it may have less of a big name/reputation, but in its new guise, it consistantly delivers performance thus often wins the race ;-)
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
Did you not read my post? I like the SGS2. Yes it's crazy powerful and it can cure cancer but, there isn't anything wrong with the Sensation. If there were, you and this other dude wouldn't be lingering over here. Odds are you either have it and wish it's plastic body didn't suck nuts, or you can't afford it and are just trolling because you don't have anything better to do. Either way that's pretty weak.

Note: Just because Sammy makes a lot of their components doesn't mean that they're the best. The SGS1 line didn't use Samsung NAND, and they also fudged it with RFS. GPS was balls, and touchwiz really truly sucks. Sense at least looks nice.

Note 2: Samsung didn't make the A4. A Subisidiary that Samsung used to own, developed the Hummingbird and the A4 and both share a similar architecture. In Every single benchmark the Hummingbird CPU that you say Samsung developed fell way behind every Snapdragon, and Ti CPU in processing power. The SGS1 series dominated the competition in 3D performance but it just so happens that it wasn't a GPU that the all mighty Samsung built, no. It was the PowerVR SGX540 made by Imagination Technologies.

Note 3: Samsung had zero to do with the A5. Stop spewing nonsense.

The only thing I wish this phone had was a SAMOLED+ qHD screen.
[HTC Sensation] bobsbbq:
If I may ask where is the SGSII sold at? And through what Carrier T-Mobile?
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
It's not sold through any carrier in the US. If you want it you'll need to purchase it for at least $650+ online and you can only use 4G speeds on ATT. It's a great device but not for $650+.
[HTC Sensation] gazelem37:
- After 2 weeks with the sensation (both me and my wife) I can tell you these are not problems I have seen on either phone. I have gotten a little heat from phone when charging it and heavy use simultaneously. Try doing that on any phone and tell me it doesn't heat up cause I know SGS I did. Signal/WiFi are perfect, no dust under display (though I heard about the problem and some were shipped that way and are being replaced), no latency, and the display's are the quality you expect from qHD; no yellow tint that I have seen. My question is who here has found THE PERFECT phone? This phone is amazing, but no phone is perfect.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
Geez people, let go of the SGS1. There's not one similar component between it and the SGS2 - screen, processor, GPU, UI, and file system are all completely new. I get that Samsung screwed up the GPS and was slow to update the SGS1 but that was then and this is now. The SGS2's GPS is fine and there have been four firmware updates in 7 weeks.

Exactly. Buy what makes

you

happy.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
If SGS 2 is so much better than the SENSATION (not!) wtf are you samsung owners doing in here. Why do you bother coming in our forums? A mitsubishi evo x might be a little faster than a porsche 911 but i would take the Porsche without second thoughts! Thats why i have a HTC instead of a plasticky ungly iphone-like samsung
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
What a useless post. Any "vs." thread in any forum is open season. And whether you own a Sensation or SGS2 what other people think shouldn't matter anyway. Should it?
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
I didn't know so many people were this concerned with fashion! I think quite a few people in here would get on well with an iPhone.
[HTC Sensation] Towle:
People need to stop worrying about waiting for the next best thing. No matter what phone comes out, there will ALWAYS be something better right around the corner. You will never buy a phone thinking this way. When the US carriers release the SGSII I guarantee there will be something even better coming. Then the question is, do you buy the SGSII or wait? And if you decide to wait, do you buy the next phone or wait for the even better one??
[HTC Sensation] Gtech145:
Close this thread. If the Sensation is not a great phone you guys wouldn't be here. Buy a phone already.
[HTC Sensation] Teso Dos Bichos:
I have neither phone but the fact that Sensation owners are so touchy with the comparison says a lot from where I am sitting.

*Disclaimer: I do not not buy phones based on the 'antics' of phone owners on a forum. :D
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
So if you believe that what other people think shouldn't matter, why did you even bother replying to my "useless" post? What i believe shouldn't matter, should it?
[HTC Sensation] jawang26:
Sorry but im so tired of these threads or comparisons theyre both great phones....each has their pros and cons..I don't understand why people have to bash other peoples phones choices....but either way the Best phone is the phone that's right for you
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
everyone knows that the best phone on the market is http://www.greatcall.com/Phones/

has all the features anyone needs!!! and built to last
[HTC Sensation] jawang26:
LOL...selling my sensation...jitterbug FTW!
[HTC Sensation] tigerz0202:
so why are you here then
[HTC Sensation] BrockFerens:
I believe the arc is the nicest looking phone, the sgs2 probably the best for gaming, but touchwiz is gross hate iPhones. And the sensation looks like every other HTC phone out there. I am sure the sgs2 is going to rock all benchmarks for sometime but it is not to often you need all that power. Id go for the sensation because of the screen. Plan and simple. Will be sometime before we will need more, just needs some devs cooking a rom up. :) will be buying my sensation on the 5th when it hits Canada.

XDA
[HTC Sensation] Teso Dos Bichos:
As I said in a previous post in this very thread (:rolleyes:) I have a business upgrade to use and I am currently undecided between these two phones. I have been jumping between both forums (mainly lurking) trying to get more information before I make a decision.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
Correct me if i'm wrong but don't you have an iphone???? And as i can see you have all the "fashionable" smartphones! Now who is concerned with fashion??? :p
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
I don't have them for that reason, like most people. :)
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
To Samsung Fan boys here, why buy a SGS2 when an SGS2+ is around the corner in just a few months only. That will definitely beats SGS2....

Sensation is my Senses....
[HTC Sensation] whmcal:
Read your post. Respect your opinion as a fellow xda user

However, let me just check this. Irrespective of the phones we own, we're allowed to give our subjective opinion on different forums right? ;-) Afterall, here at xda, we all have an interest in a range of phones, right?

Some of your comments concern me. I do hope you're not taking these opinions on a what is merely 'a phone' as some form of personal dig. Its just opinion - all harmless subjective debate. Enjoy
[HTC Sensation] whmcal:
You're probably right....even though I secretly hope ur mistaken. :-D I hate when that happens. Why do phone manufactures do that?!

I remember the same thing happening with my HTC diamond, with diamond 2 coming out a few months later....agghhh!

But whatever happens, for now, I'm happy with my 'temporarily ' cutting edge purchase
[HTC Sensation] Paging Dr B:
Your post was a breath of fresh air. No, I don't think I was taking it personally, but I was losing my patience a bit. Opinions are just that, and I do respect the opinions of others. I do however have little patience for comments like "this sucks, _____ is better, PWND!" with no substance behind it. I do apologize if I did come off a little harsh. The SGS2 is an amazing phone, but circumstances being what they are, I ended up going with the Sensation. Either way I don't think anyone could make a wrong choice between the two.

edit: I also hope you didn't think that my previous post was targeted at you; It was instead aimed at a couple lurkers who weren't participating in a proactive way. Negative comments are one thing, negative comments without merit are another.
[HTC Sensation] whmcal:
No worries. Put in that context, I completely understand your comments now. Fairplay dude.
[HTC Sensation] NZtechfreak:
My god, what is this?! People having a difference of opinion and yet acting like adults, I thought this was a forum? Well done chaps, its always a surprise when humanity restrains itself from descending on the lowest common denominator (this forum has enough of that as it is).
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
And to HTC fanboys, if Samsung releases a SGS2+, HTC will release a Sensation II making the original Sensation just as obsolete. No phone is or ever will be future proof.
[HTC Sensation] jayvo:
Indeed! :)
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
Yes. at stock the samsung galaxy is indeed the better choice. But honestly wait for HTC to work out the bugs on one of the most anticipated phones of 2011.. aside from that, once it's rooted and cyanogen gets it's hand on it and various other developers...it will only get better. I think ALOT of the Sensation's problems is mostly software based (aside from the so called death grip).. just my two cents.
[HTC Sensation] Gtech145:
Your right about that one. The sensation is not even being used to its max yet like the HD2 was and still is. Sensation will be making news even when ice cream comes out. Just my 2 cents!
[HTC Sensation] Janusz Czech:
I would go with Samsung in no time if SGS2 would be available on Tmo.

This I don't like on Sensation (so far):

Glass looks kind of plastic (compare it to Samsung or HD2)

Glass is curved therefore screen won't give you mirror clear look.

Back cover hard to open (but it might be just me). It also has too many things attached to. I like HD2 or Galaxy way.

LCD is not even close to super amoled screen as far as view quality.

Colors on Samsung are not beatable by Sensation.

Micro USB doesn't have small closing locker door like Galaxy has. It might get some dirt inside.

I preffer phone shape of Samsung or HD2 more than Sensation.

I still think that Sensation is great phone but I just didn't get excited when unpacking HTC Sensation.

Just my 2 cents.:D
[HTC Sensation] adoool92:
i bought the SGS2 yesterday and didnt want to touch it at all so nothing would go wrong with it lol...but today i started playing with the phone and i was laying on the bed and had the phone in my hand...i went to stretch my arm quickly and my hand was kinda loose and the last thing i saw was the phone flying from my hand then sliding on the floor(ceramic)...I went crazy and after picking up the phone i went to clean it and remove all the dust and found a very very small scratched spot on the metallic frame which is hardly noticeable but still annoying to have..i thot bout returning it for another one but then i thot it would be a phobia lol and convinced myself tht sh** happens...tmr am going to get a pouch for it n hope it will keep scratches to a minimum...
[HTC Sensation] zepp3lin:
Have you read the news yet?! there's no Sensation2 coming out, but SGS2+ is....

By the way if it did come out my Senasation will be in ebay already wakakakakakakakaka!
[HTC Sensation] iGoOsE76:
I wouldn't buy a Samsung over a HTC phone... Come on guys... HTC was the very first phone that Introduced us all to Android... Why would you buy anything else... BTW HTC is a more superior brand when it comes to smart phones (MY opinion only):) ...
[HTC Sensation] tigerz0202:
so samsung is recognizing that the sgs2 was a flop and it already has plans to replace a basically new phone , because thats what i get out of this post .....
[GT540 Optimus General] dprerdator:
Hi i'm new here but i have a lg gt540 wit mod7 and i would like to know if it's possible play Stupid Zombies in this phone?

'couse i intalled and when i want to play it closes and i don't know why can anyone please help me???? :confused:
[GT540 Optimus General] MalarKeY007:
This App doesn't is compatible with GT540 and/or Cyanogen 7.

Android Market say's here.
[GT540 Optimus General] dprerdator:
:eek: ok man thx a lot i didn't know that well it's a shame 'couse this is a very nice game
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jborell3:
I was flashing ROMS and went back to my old one AVA Froyo Z3 and flash Nectary 4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc kernel for overclocking, but everytime I try to use SetCPU to increase the max CPU when I get above Stock and into an overclock setting my phone freezes and reboots. I wiped delvik cache and reflashed ance it didn't fix it. Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sitlet:
Not all phones can be overclocked. Every single processor is different, and some just can't be overclocked. How much are you trying to overclock? Most phones should be able to go to 1150000 without any problems.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jborell3:
I was trying 1260000 but ill reflash and try less
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jborell3:
Reflashed the Rom and kernel and now its letting me overlook to 1200000. So problem fixed
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hywaylaw:
i put a 32 gb micro card in the tab after loading about 2gb of music on it, it found the card then only recognized about ten files while either deleting or replacing the remaining files with numbered files that come up as unreadable format. i have placed a folder labeled no media but that seems not to work. even sent it back to viewsonic and they reset it to factory ( i did that also) sent it back and it stil does it . any suggestions would be appreciated. its a stock gtab no mods
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brettdwagner:
This is a known issue on some mods, although I didn't know stock also suffered from this problem. You need to create a file named ".nomedia" and place it in either the root directory, or the directory where you store your media. Note that you cannot create this file in Windows. Mac or linux may be able to, but the easiest way is to use a file explorer like ES File explorer, which has the ability to create a file.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hywaylaw:
thanks for the tip

i will give it a try and let you know what happened,
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hywaylaw:
nope not working

tried as you advised , made a .nomedia file reloaded the sd card put it in wanting the world and the same thing happened. all but a few files were left and then there were 20 to 30 numbered files where there used to be mp3 folders.plus if i select one of these files it says unable to open this file type
[General Questions and Answers] Hameedhudeen:
Hi,

Is it possible to install or flash Android OS into an iPhone clone mobile from china?

One of my friend have that mobile and its just a ****..I was wondering whether it could run Android or not..

I have seen similar threads like this,They all say that those mobiles have weak RAMs and processors..

In this case, How about installing a light weight custom ROMs?

We don't even worry if the phone lags..

Note: the phone has java support.

/help
[General Questions and Answers] Hameedhudeen:
No replies?
[General Questions and Answers] jianC:
I doubt it. I got one of those iphone i9 clones and it sucked. It can't even run the os that was on itself properly because the processor speed was too low..

AI don't see how much lighter you can make android, and the model processor/available ram is pretty much unexplored, plus they vary from seller to seller because they are each made from different factories, each cloning each other's products..
[General Questions and Answers] Hameedhudeen:
Ok,nevermind the processor thing.

Now,how is it possible to flash Android OS into the mobile?
[General Questions and Answers] prith:
a little help

Hi i also do have an iphone 4s clone...model no is m350 and its on mtk platform...dont know the manufacturer though. It supports java ...comes with micro sim card slot, a phone memory of 150 mb and a 16gb memory card....The phone sports iphone UI and a great feel capacitive screen. I want to know if i can install android in this phone.

Thnx in advance.
[General Questions and Answers] takumi8600:
helppppppp

yeahh... i also encounter the same issue..

is it possible to reinstall/refresh the firmware of the iphone clone from CN?

real issue is: unable to install googleplay in order to install new apps..

someonee... pleasseeeeeeee helppp....:confused::confused:
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seraph_harim:
Girlfriend got a Fascinate yesterday and deemed me worthy enough to root it so she can kill all the bloatware (yay for me!). I've got root on the phone, and I understand that if I don't flash a custom kernel for the phone, it'll just break the recovery (using "cwm-recovery-all.tar") as soon as the phone boots up. She likes the overall touchwiz experience and all that, so I'm not sure of any rom's that are pretty stock cept for bloat, and any kernels I should use so recovery doesn't break.

I'm just concerned about getting recovery to stick so that I can perform a backup in case anything should happen.

I have a OG Droid, so all this bending over backwards for root and recovery is new to me ;) and threads seem either too full of info or not enough for me, so here's me asking for help!

Either way, thanks!

Dustin
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] artvandelay440:
You're just a few steps away.

First download this stock ed01 debloated/debinged stock ROM from link below and place in root directory of SD card:

http://www.multiupload.com/BKHF5DKJ18

also, choose a kernel and place on sd card. I recommend imnuts' PB&J variety-you might want to stick with stock voltage or -50uv for now. Be mindful to get non-voodoo if you aren't planning on getting into this. found here (try the 3rd or 5th option):

https://sites.google.com/a/imnuts.net/android/kernels

Next, use Odin to install your CWM again. When you boot up this time, boot directly into CWM by turning phone off, and holding volume down, volume up, and power (all 3) until CWM appears. flash your rom, and kernel. If you don't boot into cwm directly by this method, the stock kernel will overwrite CWM, which is what was happening to you, i believe.

after rom/kernel is installed, choose reboot system now from cwm.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seraph_harim:
Yeah, I just wasn't sure about what kernel would be good for her phone, so I just was kinda "stuck" at that point. ^^;;

But I will give it a go and she how it works out! thanks much!