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[Android Development on Bada] frank01709:
Battery life better on Android

Hey everyone, been playing around with Android on my wave and everything works great apart from the things we all know about like modem and GPS. But has anyone noticed how long the battery last using Android. Been playing with apps for ages and just gone back to Bada and hardly used any battery power.:D
[Android Development on Bada] thalawa:
@ShadowAS1 thanx your the man ........;)
[Android Development on Bada] darkcheater:
just followed the guide, but after flashing the fota file, the phone boots bada, when I shut it down and try to boot into recovery with endcall+menu+volup, the phone shows "samsung wave gt8500" screen and when I continue pressing the buttons the logo goes away, comes again and then the phone shuts off. when i release the keys after first "goaway" the phone just boots bada..

I have all the files on my phone, and I have XXJF1 firmware.
[Android Development on Bada] brutti:
thanks for all! now my problems:

first i installed android and then the market didnt work. then i uninstalled it and installed it again. then the market and the apps worked great. after some time, android asked me if i want to format my micro SDHC card [16 GB] i klicked yes. after some time it was ready. but since that my SDHC card is dead. it doesnt work with any adapter, and doesnot appear at "computer" in windows. then, about 4 hours later, i started bada. The welcome - animation, the goodbye - animation, all wallpapers, ringtones, and all what i had on my phone are away. it looks like that: /watch?v=3rw3FvYB-Z8 . and if i start it on download mode for a firmware restore, but kies doesnot shows it on the list. now my SD card is dead and my beautiful bada wallpapers are dead.. thank you!! that makes me sad :(

und jetzt für alle die deutsch können:

ich habe android installiert aber der market hat nicht funktioniert. dann habe ich android deinstalliert und wieder installiert. danach lief alles perfekt. nach einiger zeit fragte mich android ob ich meine micro SDHC karte [16 GB] formatieren will. ich habe sie formatieren lassen und nach einiger zeit wars fertig. nun ist die karte defekt [die wird von windows und anderen geräten nicht mehr erkannt] . nach ca. 4 stunden habe ich bada gestartet. Die Startanimation, herunterfahranimation, alle hintergrundbilder, klingeltöne, ALLES ist weg. obwohl ich nichts gemacht habe [es sieht genau so aus: /watch?v=3rw3FvYB-Z8].. ich will alles wieder zurück und bin sehr traurig darüber :(
[Android Development on Bada] jcsantos26:
They say Great things comes to those who wait :D :D :D
[Android Development on Bada] lharvince:
I removed Android on my Wave for now. My phone restarts itself and loops and cannot boot bada. This happened after charging my phone while it is turned off.

When I attend to it, the phone is too hot. I cooled it off then tried to turn on and just keep on rebooting.

I don't know how and why Bada was corrupted. Been using Android for 5 days.

So what i did is re-flash my phone with full XXJL2 firmware. After that, removed android with the script provided.
[Android Development on Bada] hisee:
any new news?after 11-7 nothing haapen
[Android Development on Bada] NitramNach:
Problem about external SD Card...

After used the movinand version for over a week, besides the market can't work properly, everything works fine.

But two days ago my Android suddenly can't detect my SD Card, with all my game savings are unable to retrieve >.<

I've tried to delete the android system using the remove.sh and reinstall it again, still can't detect; remove and replace the SD Card, still can't detect...

Anybody have clue on this? thankx!
[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
I am not going to say this over and over again. It is an ALPHA version. Don't excpect to have it fully working. Things happen... We will not support games till it's out of ALPHA version (that means till it's marked as a stable)
[Android Development on Bada] bitukitu2000:
Hey guys help plz ....When I boot android (power+call) it shows the GAlaxy s logo ...after that it shows a black screen ...i think it shuts down ....how do i fix it?? ....Please guys help ...Im a true android lover.....I upgraded to bada 2 but i cant live without android ...so i downgraded again and tried it but ...this happens ....plz guys help? plz?
[Android Development on Bada] dahansh:
Request from shadow....

Hi,

When you gonna update in the tutorial the possibility of installing the android on the SD card... ( I'm really intrest in that and i cant find the that i the post..)
[Android Development on Bada] oSandmaNo:
initially, android was on SD card, then to make it easier to install, it was shifted to moviNAND( now no need linux)
[Android Development on Bada] dahansh:
There is away to do it without linux with sd card...?
[Android Development on Bada] NHS2008:
No.

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[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
The OLD version was SD card we arent sure yet which version were going to use

The NAND Version is more stable while the SD card version is only stable when configured correctly
[Android Development on Bada] dahansh:
The NAND version is very slow... and stuck alot!!!
[Android Development on Bada] Marius_Linux:
For me , the NAND is version is more stable and much faster than the SD-Card version. My SD-Card Class 6 Transcend.
[Android Development on Bada] ialazmi:
Hello guys,

Where can I find android 2.3 for wave?

I have already installed android 2.2.1 on my samsung wave.
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
I have heard that you can find it on Neptune, but it's not sure ;)
[Android Development on Bada] Marius_Linux:
SD-Card

Thanks to the DEVs and to ShadowAS1 for Android. But I've got a question: will there be a way to mount the sd-card as external sd not as internal so we can move apps to it?

THX in advance

Marius_Linux
[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
Retarded question.. Euhmm GTFO?
[Android Development on Bada] nbates66:
well technically this build will mount a partition as external sd *if* it finds a THIRD partition that is FAT on your external sdcard, you can change the behavior to get it to mount the 2nd partition instead by modifying the vold.fstab script, this is the one thats used in the last build i put up:

http://code.google.com/p/badadroid/...es/xxjpxinitramloop030711/res/misc/vold.fstab

on this line:

change the bold number to the partition number you want mounted, best way to do this is to boot the phone to android and then pull it's vold.fstab from "/system/etc/" using adb(please don't ask about Android Debugging Bridge here, go google about it or even search XDA android general forum), modify it, push it back and reboot android.

it's not possible to use the bada internal memory as an sdcard mount in this build since it's already mounted for the android system partition.

EDIT: just in case someone who doesn't know what they're doing misses it, you DO need to create another partition on the External SDcard if you want to do that. :P

I should also note that i haven't tested that specifically, there may be other changes necessary.
[Android Development on Bada] tinkas:
This is how android on samsung wave works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0b2tZgn74Q
[Android Development on Bada] brutti:
look if you can NOT see your SD Card on your PC or on Bada. if you can NOT see it, format it with bada: settings>memory>memorycard details>format thats the last thing you can do if you dont see it. and if you want your data back after formatting download a file restore program .
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
211 Mo RAM is very low for Android.

Always need tu use task killer.

Is it a limitation due to the ram' adresses of this realase ?

Or will it be definitive ?

Thanks.
[Android Development on Bada] intelligentking:
ram of wave is supposed to be somewhere around 384-512 mb. samsung bada's twitter confirmed it as 512 mb. currently its because of this release so its gonna be more when a stable version will be available :)
[Android Development on Bada] intelligentking:
@ShadowAS1 when you are gonna be back? its been almost 17 days for the last update and i m sure so much work has been done in between. so when we are expected to get an updated TUT next?
[Android Development on Bada] nbates66:
Shadow simply takes a current release given to him and makes a TUT based on it (the current one being my last build), since most of the devs are patiently waiting for Gingerbread sources from Oleg, or stonewalled on the modem work, there isn't much new stuff to release atm i'm afraid.
[Android Development on Bada] Samuel Sung:
Ich denke mal du möchtest nicht die Sachen von der Speicherkarte wiederhaben. Denn warum hast du Sie sonst Formatiert...

Ich würde einfach Android enfernen, und Bada neu flashen. Anschliessend Android wieder rauf und Bis zur Final erstmal nicht über Android formatieren...^^

Falls noch Bilder oder so auf dem Handy waren. Dann schliess es im Massenspeichermodus an und lass ein datarecovery tool drüberlaufen...

Ich hab sehr gute Ergebnisse mit den beiden tools erzielt....EASEUS Data Recovery Wizard Professional v5.0. & DiskRecovery_6.0.6299_32-Bit....falls du da nicht rannkommst schreibst du mir ne PN oder suchst dir was legales über Google. ;)

achja und mit der Karte würde ich einfach wieder in den LAden gehen und sagen die hat sich einfach so nach dem Formatieren über Windows verabschiedet. DAnn sollteste ne neue bekommen...Kassenzettel vorrausgesetzt..
[Android Development on Bada] oSandmaNo:
Samuel Sung = SamSung?
[Android Development on Bada] |EverybodyLies|:
What about the shutdown bug? It is known what causes it? Anyone is working to solve it?

Best wishes.
[Android Development on Bada] iSubaru:
If all keys would work, the task killer wouldn't be that much needed, but we can handle it that way for now, menu key works as it should, so not much deal with RAM problem at the moment ^_^

Oh~ then I wish best of luck at the work, I will wait patiently and report anything I can find there

The only known to me way to do little workaround for it is set light-up time to 10 minutes, set the lock to Signature lock (the one where You draw a symbol) and try to not lock screen for too long

I have theory that since battery sensor is not working correctly Android shuts down because of it thinking he has run out of power...

Only theory but maybe it will lead developers somewhere...
[Android Development on Bada] intelligentking:
thanks nbates66 well if that's the case then i m also willing to wait for it as patiently as you guys are waiting :). and if i remember clearly oleg estimated autumn for the gingerbread's release. i want to switch to android permanently because here in Canada we are still stuck at bada 1.0 and there is no hope that will get 2.0 either so as long as my contract is working i want to switch to android after that will research the best android available at that time :)
[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
NEVER WIPE THE SD CARD BECAUSE YOU WILL WIPE BADA

Solution:

Fully reflash bada (JL2 recommended)

Flash FOTA

install android

Flash BL if it doesnt work
[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
True :D. I ain't a DEV.. at least not for this project. I'm a web developper but I can help solving problems (like i helped fixing the DHCP problem) But most of my time goes into web developing (PHP/MySQL) and video editing, oh and not to forget gaming :D
[Android Development on Bada] iSubaru:
If You mean the contract that guarantees You technical help if something would happen with Your Wave, then installing Android will void that contract (FOTA flashing in fact)

EDIT #1

Well it MAY or MAY NOT, depends on contract formula &c.
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
Are you sure about that, or have you concret's informations about the current limitation, or are you just suposing ?

I wouldn't be surprise that some lags are due to the poor RAM available... (ram available is betwen 40MB and 80MB after a completed boot)
[Android Development on Bada] NHS2008:
Yeah. can you give us the link to that bada twit?

cause its highly unlikely that ram is so low due to the release. I hope I am wrong though....
[Android Development on Bada] bong4316:
Rom without Touchwiz

Touchwiz by itself consumes a lot of memory is there a rom available that has touchwiz automatically disabled? and just uses the default android GUI.
[Android Development on Bada] NHS2008:
I use ADW Launcher. It's free and in the market. Launcher Pro is good too.
[Android Development on Bada] intelligentking:
people who are asking about bada's tweet regarding wave's ram here it is

but on wikipedia it says

check it here

which actually is a post from oleg.
[Android Development on Bada] NHS2008:
Thanks for the Tweet link. Yes, I am aware of the Wikipedia link and source, thats why I was confused...But I still doubt there will be any gain in RAM.
[Android Development on Bada] iSubaru:
Hmm odd, two sources giving diffrent information...well it's still nice ammount...

Not so long ago iPhone 3G after boot with Springboard had like 20-30 MB avaiable, if You crashed Springboard You could get up to 40 MB :P Now with proper cleaning I can get up to 50 MB without crashing Springboard but honestly, it's still not much...

Oh well after boot I have 43 MB of Free RAM on Wave, yes

HOWEVER

I click the Clean Memory and I get up to 80 MB Free or so, it's enough for few applications I have installed (emulators mainly =D)

I think as for pre-alpha stage it's pretty nice achievement ^_^

Achievement Unlocked

First Clean

First Memory

First Android

Sorry xD

EDIT #1

Ah sorry I should have few more MBs if I will turn off animated wallpaper ^_^"
[Android Development on Bada] nbates66:
you don't need to go cleaning the memory, android is smart enough to free memory for you when you need it i've found (i've ran a doom port, various programs through dosbox, angrybirds, etc fine).
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
Thanks but we are talking about android on Wave, not IOS, different systems, comparaison is not so easy.

It's why I wrote "between 40 and 80 MB.

Near 40MB free is the default, Near 80MB free after cleaning.

Assuming while cleaning some systems apps are killed (messages, calendar, market...).

It's enough for what you have tried, but It is low in a general terms.

(And with the modem, I suppose more RAM will be used).

Android try to get free RAM when it's not enough.

I'm sure everybody here have seen the launcher killed and restarted automatically.

Android kills apps, and it lags.

Also it lags to restart apps like market or contact, because they was automatically killed...

If you want to use android like a true smartphone (push in background, calls, internet browser, music player or navigation in the same time) I think it would be difficult to do this with only 40 or 80MB available.

It's why I asked if it is a limitation due to this release (boot with foota, memory allocation...) or it it will stay definitively like this.

Of course, Nobody says it is not. ;)
[Android Development on Bada] princepsp:
Hello i found new solution the sleep(lock screen (2 min> shut down))fix.Goto market and search (you should be root) screen off and lock app and install. And go to app settings in application menu and your phone dont shut down.
[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
OKay,

To be clear. You don't have To PM me, post it here and post it in dev thread. One single post here or a PM is sufficient -.-

Second. As I already mentioned. It's not really an Fix because it uses some apps. It could be a temporary fix but the bug lays somewhere in our code. (I suspect the sensors)
[Android Development on Bada] NHS2008:
Is this a substitute for Load monitor or to be used in conjunction with it?
[Android Development on Bada] furkey:
xpkg6 is an unofficial firmware. Even now firmwares that runs with android is very limited. And as I know it's not about the support. It's about chance to android run with other firmware...
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
It seems there is no FOTA with bada 2.

Then it is imposible with the current method.

But maybe devs will be able to find a solution to use 1.2BL and fota to launch bada 2.0...
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
I've just updated my phone via kies from XXJL2 to XXKF3.

BL is not updated.

I just have to flash fota again (like the tuto in 1st page) with ML.

Android boots again (no data losed under bada and the same in android).

:)
[Android Development on Bada] wilmervanheerde:
that is nice. but bada 2 has an other bootloader so it just wont work :(
[Android Development on Bada] hoangm:
What's about camera? Work or not?
[Android Development on Bada] Scarface1991:
Amazing job guys, you made my dream come true :)

First I had problems to boot Android on my Wave but after a few re-flashes it finally worked. The performance is better than I expected, after Android was done with the Media-scanning almost everything worked fluently, even the Live Wallpapers. I don`t know why Samsung won`t add this feature to Bada 2.0 because the Wave clearly can manage it without slowdowns.

The most important thing to me was that the SNES and the PSX Emulators worked and to my surprise they work absolutely great. Almost all games I played yet have a great FPS and are totally playable.

If you guys will manage to fix the 3 major bugs (idle-bug, battery bug and the modem drivers) I will switch to Android for good.

Unfortunately I don`t have internet on my phone, is it possible to download apps from the app-market somehow and just copy them from the PC via Mass-Storage mode?
[Android Development on Bada] Scarface1991:
No. I don`t know about other users but I wasn`t able to use the camera while using Android.

By the way I noticed that after the 3rd or the fourth time I boot Android, it tells me that my SD-Card is either empty or it`s damaged and needs formatting but after formatting it with Android it`s not usable anymore, the PC, Bada and Android doesn`t recognize it anymore.

Here is the solution in case any other user struggles with the same problem:

after you get that bug, turn off Android and boot Bada. Then go to Settings>Memory>Memory card details

Bada should ask you now that the SD-card needs to be formatted in order to use it. go on and type yes. After that my card was usable again but the bug repeats itself after the 3rd or the forth time I boot Bada. So it would be nice if this could be fixed to somehow.

Keep up the amazing work guys, you simply rock!!! :)
[Android Development on Bada] |EverybodyLies|:
Yep, there is. They are called apk's (it's a file format). Just google for the desired app + "apk" at the end of it, for example "angry birds apk". Download the .apk file, copy it to your SD card, then boot android and execute the .apk file. That's all.

Make sure you have allowed the instalation of apk files. It's somewhere on settings, but I think is enabled by default.
[Android Development on Bada] Scarface1991:
Thank you, that actually works :), tried that with about 10 apps just now and they all were available on the internet without using the appmarket for downloading them. that`s Absolutely great and all of those apps and games worked (except for Doodle Jump because you can`t use the sensor so you only can play the game by touching the left and right to move)

Man I don`t want to switch back to Bada again, because Android is so

awesome :D
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
If you don't use CAMERA, SMS, GPS and CALLS you shouldn't have to switch back to bada :D:D:D
[Android Development on Bada] Scarface1991:
Yeah :D but you still need to charge your battery ^^ and that`s impossible for now with Android and the idle bug of course makes it impossible to use the phone for a longer period.

Without those 2 bugs I definitely would use Android more often than now. Let`s hope that Oleg will soon come with an great update :)
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
Yes you're right.

The IDLE bug is very boring... (I try several solutions with apps like wake an lock, lock screen and others... and nothing works for me)
[Android Development on Bada] smokestack76:
I did some cleaning. Lets keep it on topic in here.

Second. On the Whole mem issue you are all booting on top of another OS. So mem will seem low. But lets remember that android in general has somewhat low mem becuase it does not need it like other OS,s do. It will keep apps that YOU or the SYS uses the most loaded in the mem thats not used by the system. Makes apps and system apps load alot faster. As far as a clean boot by android. I look at around 205mb free on a boot. With a hacked Gingerbread ROM on my captivate. Had around 160mb on froyo. :rolleyes:

Hang in there. I was looking at the same issues back when i had a Tilt and we had to boot from the SD card. Now look at those forums and see how far android has gone. It will come. Once the kernel is done and impoved a bit. It will all come. And very quickly. :D
[Android Development on Bada] smokestack76:
And as far as a launcher goes. Ditch ADW and launcher pro. Use Zeam and thank me later. Much smaller mem footprint and very fast. ;)
[Android Development on Bada] ntnlzr:
hi there is a way for make it working for wave525?

regards
[Android Development on Bada] intelligentking:
no theres no way. you should have searched the thread before posting this question.
[Android Development on Bada] ialazmi:
it is not Retarded question! I could not find v2.3.
[Android Development on Bada] furkey:
I'm afraid yes it is my friend... Devs already said they waiting for v2.3 OLEG. It means THERE IS NO V2.3 VERSION FOR WAVE. Is it enough?
[Android Development on Bada] virusx:
"Load Monitor" is working for me (you'll have to setup the good options, can't remeber which one but it's kinda straight forward) and I can remember another app said to be working: "WakeLock", search for those in the Android Market :)
[Android Development on Bada] Scarface1991:
Just downloaded WakeLock and tested it and it really works:) If you choose "CPU on, screen off" in the options menu the phone goes into standby without shutting down. You can even push the shutdown button and it goes straight to standby and it doesn`t shut down. It`s not the ultimate fix because the app has to be constantly in the background for it to work but it needs only about 3,5 MB Ram so it`s nothing big.

Thank`s virusx for that solution, that will do it for now until the devs fix that idle bug.
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
Thanks virusx.

Yes I already have wakelocker, it works ("CPU on, screen off").

Problem is the app is often atomaticaly closed by system when memory is low...

We had to check and launch it again if closed.

edit: I will try load monitor
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
I've just tried go launcher EX.

I love it.

Task killer / folders and background inside the app menu, cutomisation...

It works like a charm with the Wave, lot of effects...

For me it is the best, and very fast.

I don't like vertical srcoll for apps in launcher pro, and adw launcher crashs some times...

No enough ram to use firefox.

Firefox is the same as firefox for computer : need lot of RAM...
[Android Development on Bada] ShadowAS1:
I could run FireFox (is somewhere in my vids)
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
I could run it too. :)

Use it with big pages is another thing...
[Android Development on Bada] Odergimiy:
Hello, please add support for BOOTLOADERS S8500XEKC2
[Android Development on Bada] Scarface1991:
Just Flash to S8500XXJL2 and then to Android because I don`t think that anyone will be doing anything until Oleg releases Android 2.3.3

Correct me if I`m wrong :o
[Android Development on Bada] Rulistaff:
I tried to use a SWAP file to "extend" memory.

The "free" command isn't working in the terminal (missing file)

Strange...
[Android Development on Bada] Lithophyses:
@odergimiy just post your question in this thread

and attach your bootloader files (if you still have them)