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[HTC ChaCha] Jaa-Yoo:
Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me if the directional keys work in navigating around the phone the same as a track ball/pad would? Would it be possible to use the phone fully without the need to use the touch screen at all? (aside from the capacitive buttons)

Thanks :)
[HTC ChaCha] colonel:
yes but

yes:

they work in all apps screen, on internet browser, on email, i.e. virtually everywhere

but:

on the home icon screen, the left and right move screen window but the up and down do not appear to switch between icons. Therefore on the main screen you need to use the touch to select icon

BTW the combination of touch and keyboard is excellent !!! (e.g. on a web page with a form, you can tap on each field you need to fill in and then use the keyboard to type) :D
[HTC ChaCha] colonel:
On the subject of "auto-rotate" screen, I have just found an option in the display settings called:

"auto rotate screen - after market downloaded applications"

I can confirm when ticking this box, most of my downloaded applications auto-rotate when I turn the phone. however this does not effect built in applications (e.g. mail, web browser, etc.)
[HTC ChaCha] Jaa-Yoo:
Thanks colonel.

I suppose thats the same operation as trackpads have in android. (im using a desire)

I was planning on getting this phone for a visually impaired friend. This phone with a screen reader installed should work out ok for her.

Its appalling at how few smartphones today offer any type of accessibility for the vision impaired.
[HTC ChaCha] colonel:
I seem to remember on my old desire that the trackpad does pick icons on the home screen.

perhaps HTC will add this with a firmware update. seems a fairly easy thing to add as the up and down arrow in the home screen are not doing anything else
[HTC ChaCha] theloginwithnoname:
Received mine today. First impressions:

good keyboard, if a little quirky - ? key is without shift (good), ! and @ is not (bad). numeric keys could have gone on top row (with Fn), but they went with the nokia style (3 x 3 grid with 0 below).

Expected to wake screen with Red key, nope. Power key a little difficult to press, as per a lot of newer HTC devices. Would have preferred it at thumb resting place on right-hand side, or left-top (where my Nexus One's is) - right is difficult to get to as a right-hander.

I MISS A TRACKPAD! The cursor keys do not get anywhere near to it, especially when scrolling or quickly navigating to words whilst writing a text or email. Though FN + Left or Right arrow does Home/End (go to start/end of line) - nice.

Black surrounding screen too large, often soft keys don't stand out and there is a lot of black below them. Green/Red keys seem a bit redundant and they could have used that space for a taller screen - the current size is a bit restrictive when scrolling vertically. However, screen quality very good and once rooted, DPI lowered should give even better experience.

Facebook button seens a little redundant, always seeming to go to "Post on My Wall" - FB chat doesn't seem to work that well either, with not all friends showing as being online.

HTC Sense 3 is nice, though I'm not sure I'll miss it when I root and CM7 it. Nice touches are, number of unread messages showing over widget icon on home screen. Quick drag icons over ring when locked. People widget is nice.

Phone generally feels nippy (800Mhz definately helps). Set up wizard is nice. SWMBO is already envious, though the thing she keeps saying is how much she likes it cos it is white - WTF!

Finally, keyboard - love it. Forgot how good it is to type whilst walking. If anything, even with larger fingers, they keys could be a bit closer together and it wouldn't make it harder to type with.

Overall (after 3 hours use), very impressed but still not sure it will replace my N1.
[HTC ChaCha] hanybanoub:
Impressions after a few days:

Great implementation by HTC to modify apps & widgets for smaller screen (wish they could have done it for default mail client, but they have their own, which is very good)

Keyboard arrows, tab, and FN+ENTER can do most things - very nice

Battery life seems good so far - at least one day in my opinion, which I think will improve over time/conditioning

I do wish the power on button was easier to use/press, but I've learned to use my left hand with it as I grip the phone (I'm a righty) and it works.

I wish NOLOCK would work by pressing ANY key to turn on, but it only works with the power button...

If anyone has suggestions for other disable lock apps (using any key) please let us know...I've searched and tried a few to no avail.

I hope these types of phones do well so in future they can be expanded: Larger screen instead of un-used screen bezel & a trackpad is REALLY needed on Android phones....

I believe they will be able to do both within the **SAME** phone size in about 1 year or so :)

Some sites talk about an OTA update already available for this phone, but I keep checking and no updates are available...I wonder if they are improvements??

BTW - signal and responsivness of phone is excellent, as is call quality and speakerphone.

HTC did very well - considering their expertise in phones, they may be the new Nokia in the (near) future
[HTC ChaCha] raikesy:
Still pleased with the phone, but are on our second!

The camera/camcorder started locking up and only showing a black screen so had it swapped. Don't seem to have this issue with the second unit although the Smiley issue persists.

When pressing the SYM button to bring up the symbols/emoticons whatever symbol is highlighted remains on the screen until either exiting SMS or gtalk or by tapping the recipient field.

Hoping this will be sorted in the 1.18 update. Anyone been able to update theirs yet? Ours is still on 1.15 and up to date according to the phone.
[HTC ChaCha] qbert456:
Mine is going back as "w" key is not always working - now htc have announced the bootloaders wont be locked will we be able to flash ruu and unlock ours do you think?

I want CM7!
[HTC ChaCha] raikesy:
Depends if HTC locked the ChaCha bootloader in the first place, if they have then I guess they could issue an update like they plan to do for the Sensation.
[HTC ChaCha] charlieumtali:
While I'm all for custom roms (as I can attest to them substantially improving phones which are neglected for updates by their manufacturers, as with my HTC Tattoo), I'm in no rush to make any changes to this ChaCha.

Hopefully HTC will keep looking after the ChaCha with updates. Ice Cream Sandwich might be out of the question, but I imagine that the community will deliver whether HTC do or not!
[HTC ChaCha] hanybanoub:
I really like HTC's implementation of Android on this phone - their experience made this customisation excellent!

As I use more of the apps and buttons I realise they are configured VERY well for this phone.

WELL DONE HTC!
[HTC ChaCha] qbert456:
Also it's a bit annoying that the smilies that come up on the "sym" key aren't proper Android ones!
[HTC ChaCha] raikesy:
Update 1.18 is now available through settings > about phone > software updates
[HTC ChaCha] hanybanoub:
Thanks for update - installing now.

did you notice anything new?
[HTC ChaCha] theloginwithnoname:
I just got the OTA. Did you notice anything new/improved?
[HTC ChaCha] qbert456:
I've noticed a difference.

Every few hours I have to re enter the sim pin :confused:

seems to be re booting but not fully as if i enter the pin the app that was open before is still in foreground
[HTC ChaCha] theloginwithnoname:
I haven't seen much difference other than:

- positive: the screen feels like it has a better depth/colour to it.

- negative: scrolling feels a little more laggy.

A rather insignificant update I guess.
[HTC ChaCha] raikesy:
Returned our ChaCha for a desire s. Too buggy for us :(
[HTC ChaCha] sOt0nGx:
What bugs?
[HTC ChaCha] raikesy:
See my other thread, symbols persisted on screen until reboot and the camera occasionally would not start, again needing a reboot. Had these bugs on two devices, both updated and tried factory resets, but to no avail.
[HTC ChaCha] dvfk:
Review / first impressioms

The QWERTY / hardware keyboard is the flimsiest I've tried yet. I've had Palm Treo, Centro, Pre, motorola Charm - and tried Blackberries. these are ALL superior.

The keys are OK but it's easy to press a key without meaning too - and the right arrow is kind of less clicky than all the other keys (I confirmed this bug on three ChaChas in HTC's concept store hands-on in Copenhagen.

Sometimes it instantly deletes the whole text because Fn (called Alt outside europe) before Del means erase ALL - this happens when you don't know that Fn is on and want to delete a letter - PUFF the whole dang text is gone (and unlike iPad - no undo :( ).

It's easily dropped vertically - the dry metal is edge/grip-less or slippery. almost like the Pre but feels "dry".

The screen is good, the touchscreen reacts consitently (unlike Charm and Wildfire/Buzz where touch don't work on the table and on some charers - works ONLY when they're held) and the angled shaped is nice. The software speed/response is fine, the cam and video quality is good. speaker is sharp though. Volume buttons are impossible to use without looking - can't feel them.

can't find a better android qwerty though WITH arrow keys (though selections made using shift+arrow can ONLY be deleted - not copy pasted...wtf?).

there's a qwerty bar android list here: http://gadgetwit.com

(I too have the symbol-stays-on-screen bug mentioned in this thread but it disappears when I go to another app and back)
[HTC ChaCha] webvictim:
I'm very happy with the Chacha so far - the keyboard is fantastic and you can get very quick with it after a bit of practise. The battery life isn't as good as I'd hoped it'd be (I get about a day with only medium use) but it's still only on its second charge, and still on standard settings with updates etc so far - I haven't tried at all to save battery so it'll be interesting to see what I can do with it.

The Sense UI is very good - only slight complaint I have is that when typing my password to unlock the phone, I press Enter to submit it and the phone seems to take it twice - the phone unlocks and then it goes straight into the dialer menu. Very unusual.
[HTC ChaCha] gagec:
what about flash player on this phone? installed app, but its not listed in apps menu. thought it might not be supported. i did enable flash in net browsers.

any thoughts?
[HTC ChaCha] redbluff:
HTC Status

I just got the AT&T Status which is the same as the CHACHA
[HTC ChaCha] da-vid:
I wish the phone had a trackball like the old HTC Android phones (Dream, Magic, Desire, Legend). There's definitely enough space for one in between the call and call end buttons. Not liking the d-pad much.

The screen has absolutely awful viewing angles, but that's not too big of a deal. Minus the gaping bugs (e.g. Dialer massively draining the battery) and smaller bugs (e.g. double space for period works everywhere EXCEPT the SMS app), I really like this phone. It's great for messaging.

The internal memory of this phone is... ugh. I installed less than 10 small apps before it ran out of memory. I have apps auto installing to the SD card now but damn is it annoying. Some apps that don't support SD card installs simply won't install at all. As of now, I have 1.95 MB of free internal memory left. What the crap?!
[HTC ChaCha] raikesy:
I don't think it has support for the full Flash Player, only FlashLite?
[HTC ChaCha] theloginwithnoname:
Best to check this thread out...
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Hey all,

I got my desire s yesterday(yay) and found out a little problem.

When i put my phone on AC power to charge, the phone shows as "Charging(USB)" and the charging is too slow! Someone know what to do about this?

(The cable and adapter are the original ones)

the other thing is that i got in the boot loader this

SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL

BOOT-0.98.0000

Radio-38.03.02.14_M

eMMC-boot

Mar 10 2011,14:58:38

yeah yeah, S-ON :P the question is if i should upgrade radio or not, and if its even possible with S-ON hehe

Thanks :)

After some testing i found out that with wifi and screen turned off it charges 0.5% in 1 minute. so its like 30% in 1 hour..

Edit: Anyone can tell me a program that gives me more details about the programs that are using battery and how much each?

and maybe a log?
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
settings>about phone>battery>battery use
[HTC Desire S] deadwilder:
looks like something is wrong with your charger.

voltage is too low, because your phone shows charging (USB), instead of charginh (AC).
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Well, tried with another adapter and it said dc, but canceled the touch... and make it weird.. i guess its a bad adapter.. i will get a good one from ebay i guess
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
I strongly suggest do a calibration charge first.. we never know, it might be the battery whose playing up as you just got from a stock..

Calibration charging:

1. Discharged the battery till the phone turns itself off, you might want to turn off "Fast Boot" on "Settings" -> "Power" just to be safe that the phone will be off.

2. Keep turning the phone "on" by pressing the power and wait till you see the htc splash screen, if it turns on, just wait for it to turn itself off (discharge itself). This will make sure that the battery will be drained to a "safe" percentage.

3. If phone is not turning on anymore, then charge the phone using your stock power adapter, and just keep the phone off and wait for it to fully charge itself. I always keep my phone charging for 1hour and a half, you can try maybe until 2hours. that should still be acceptable for not over charging the phone. Then unplug.

4. Wait for about a minute before turning your phone on just to be safe, letting the battery rest for awhile.

Then post your result..

Edit:

Notice that when charging, the LED light is Orange. If fully charged, it should be Green.
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Well, i dont think thats the problem... but going to try it! thanks :)
[HTC Desire S] mikeyd85:
You would be surprised how well the above tip can work. When resetting my battery stats on my hero, the battery life decreased dramatically. Over time though, it would fix itself. :)
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Yeah, but my problem is not that the battery dont last.. its that charges slow... i will try one of the current widgets and check the current that i get while charging
[HTC Desire S] moreje:
I got my Desire S yesterday... and I have a critical charging problem....

-Last night, it was plugged with the HTC adapter all the night...and in the morning battery was only to 40%

-then I went to work and plugged it ther... it charged until 100%: ouf

-I came back at home: plugged it again....and the battery continues decreasing even if it is plugged.

Any ideas on what could going wrong?

thanks for your help

JR
[HTC Desire S] Skanob:
This will be helpful for you:

[APP] Battery Diviner by lzkata

I strongly suggest doing a Calibration charge on your battery. Regarding battery drain, it depends on the settings that your phone is on. Check below:

[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!

[GUIDE] Update 01/06/11: HTC Desire S Guide For Newcomers to Android V1.02 <- helps a lot regarding battery saving tips
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Okay, i checked with a program and while charging i get 430mA of charge, not sure if fine hehe

When i am not doing nothing with phone i get -252mA and with screen off i get -300mA?!?!

something wrong here xD Lets try again :P

Screen off: -24mA

without use i get around: -250mA

Also charging from my notebook i get: 394mA

Maybe my problem is that the phone uses too much mA by itself?

Here is a normal log with the apps:

2011/06/10
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
As well as the battery calibration I'd also be tempted to perform a full reset and start from fresh and then retest battery usage.

The screen will always be the biggest user of battery
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Yeah, i guess i have a problem with my connector for charging and the 200mA+ is because the screen hehe, i decreased the brightness and now i get around 222mA

The is a widget that let you change brightness when you need? like preselected percents of brightness?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
The auto brightness setting selects much more brightness than really required.

I use about 20% indoors and up it when outdoors

Widget

Theres either the full htc power dashboard or the htc screen brightness widget which is number 68
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
Its not 68 for me xD but still, this widget lets you 3 levels.. i guess 30% 60% and 100%?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'd look in the market for a better widget/application then
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
:O Now i really worried.. I installed the widget lockscreen yesterday at night and all seemed to work fine.. i went to sleep my phone was 92%.... todya i woke up and my phone was 0% it wont turn on...

here is what the current widget log have:

Someone know what the hell could happened? i doing the battery calibration now
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
That's certainly crazy!!

Try the Battery calibration technique and then repeat the same overnight monitoring experiment...and then repost the results.
[HTC Desire S] superkid:
I know, its like really insane. Well, i charging the phone right now.. waiting the light to become green (i think that suppose to happen) and log the phone battery all day and night.

It can be the widget lock screen program? i don't sure.... it really surprised me
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
If you leave it charging and look in the log file you'll see when you achieve 100% charge.

That's why I'd be tempted to perform a full reset if the calibration alone doesn't resolve this problem.

If you look at

Settings > about phone > battery use

what was the main user of battery during the time it lost all that chunk?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Slie:
Is it possible to root this phone, and an use these custom roms?

Thank you.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sam1965uk:
Is It Possible To Turn Off The Lock Screen On The Galaxy S2

Thanks

Sam1965uk
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mossywell:
Hi all, oddly, I can't seem to find a clear answer to this from searching and Google. Does the SII have a separate recovery partition? I see chainfire has created a customised CWM to be deployed with his kernel, but I was puzzled by this as coming from a HTC world, I was wondering how CWM backups up the ROM partitions (or more importantly restores them) if they are in use.

TIA

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[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mossywell:
bump

no one?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JonesWTF:
I would also like to know how this works. Coming from 3 previous HTC phones and buying a SGS2 tomorrow, I wouldn't mind finding out how to root, nandroid and flash correctly.

I know all about Odin already.

Is this the only way?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoney73:
Then why not read the guides in the development section? step by step guides.

There is also a search function in these forums.

Not being rude, but you are asking to be spoonfed when there are good, well written proven guides to all your questions.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mossywell:
I take it this was a reply to MrBadgerMilk's question? I've looked at the FAQ in the dev section and used search and can't see the answer to the question of whether the SII has a separate recovery partition. Hopefully the people that know (and some will) could just post a yes or no.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
Right... http://bit.ly/SGS2answer

Now that's over, no, the SGS2 doesn't have a separate recovery partition. The zImage contains the recovery binary, and another init script is run, when recovery is to be entered, from the standard zImage.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mossywell:
Now that was the answer I was looking for. Thank you very much. :)

EDIT: Is the video some Samsung secret initiation ritual thing?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoney73:
Hi, my answer was in reply to mrbadgermilk, seeing as I quoted his post.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JonesWTF:
Sorry for acting like a total noob. I did a search, but because of the crappy network that orange is, I couldn't ever stay connected long enough to actually get to the results of the search. Now I finally have my sgs 2 on 3 and it's like a breath if fresh air. Sorry again.I can now search without sounding like a noob :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoney73:
Tbh, I think i came off as a bit of a plank. If you keep an eye out for chainfire 'Root/kernel' threads in the dev section you can go far wrong.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1103399for root/clockwork mod recovery

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 for step by step guide on how to flash via Odin, and the official roms. I've had the sgs2 for a month now, and after trying the (now deceased) angelom rom, and litening rom, I went back to stock KE7. and tbh, it feels just as quick as the 'customs'. The only thing I would advise is to remove(or freeze) the samsung bloat by using titanium backup. There is another thread somewhere with a list of things you can remove without affecting functionality.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mightbme:
Lol...that's what I was thinking....but my opinion changed when you posted this. :)
[Droid 2 General] wyzzerdd:
Tried to install several roms but every time it says it can't verify the info so I decided to do SBF.

Plugged in phone PC downloaded motoflash driver even though I have latest moto usb driver and shows up as this in RDS lite

IMEI/ESN/MEID: N / A
Technology: N / A
Software Version: N / A
Flex Version: N / A
Bootloader Version: v0x00C106
DRM Version: N / A
Phone Type: Engineering (1D1D3410D773020000003C060000)

It goes through a few things and then gets to flashing but says FAILED phone is not compatible with multi-interface super-file. (0x703B)

I verified the SBF was the correct one, wasn't corrupt and was the correct md5 and tried a couple times with the same result.

What do?
[Droid 2 General] liquidchrome:
I have this same issue. Can anyone tell us what that error means?
[Droid 2 General] dgowe15:
Depending on whether your sbfing froyo or gingerbread you need the most recent sbf of the two
[Droid 2 General] string216:
Same problem.

I am having the same issue. I think I may have actually completely bricked my phone. I didn't think it was possible.

I was attempting to use ROM Manager to flash to MIUI. It then went into a boot loop. However, it does not even hit the eye. Just the 'M' screen.

When I try to boot into recovery, I get Andy with the triangle exclamation point, but the search button does not bring up recovery.

Most of the time my XP PC tells me that it does not recognize the hardware. When it does and I try SBF using RSDLite (4.8 and 4.9), I get the same as above and the log have hundreds of these entries:

[0x0000137c] E(08) [1000] CPSTSerialTIHelper::ProcessPingCommand - Failed to get DIEID ACK

I have Moto Driver updater 5.2 with the latest droid drivers.

I tried using SBF_Flash for the MAC, and It gets stuck on "Waiting for phone..."

My guess is that the component that communicates from the phone is corrupted. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks
[Droid 2 General] xm0067:
First, to get into stock recovery you have to use the volume rocker once you get to andy, not the search ket (atleast seach hasn't worked for me, and you need to press both at once)

Second, you need to go into bootloader (idk if you have, but I didn't see it mentioned)

Third, make sure you have the correct SBF file (I use the triplethreat full sbf, which redoes kernel and system)

Fourth, I haven't seen a phone bricked yet, and I've been doin this for a bit of time, that was more in the early days of android.

Sent from my ApeX-ed, Overclocked, and Automated Droid 2.
[Droid 2 General] string216:
I fixed my issues. It turns out that both my PC and My cables were having issues. I used a new machine with a fresh Moto cable, and was able to flash. Took 2 attempts, though.

Good luck
[Droid 2 General] xm0067:
Great!! Glad it worked!

Sent from my ApeX-ed, Overclocked, and Automated Droid 2.