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[EVO 4G General] piscesjoey:
This, & Sammy gave the dev a GSM model, which doesn't mean **** for us CDMA users, & if you don't agree then just go ask the devs in the Epic forum who are still trying their damndest to get CM7 fully running while the Captivate & Vibrant both has been fully blessed by Cyanogen hisself.
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
this thread is terrible.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Poor misinformed soul.....
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
It's a promising sign but I'm not sure I'm quite convinced that Samsung is trying to change their ways. Of course, we also have no proof that HTC is going to truly unlock their bootloaders either.
[EVO 4G General] sog1971:
My experience with 3 stock Samsung Android phones on Sprint has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

1. I had the original "Moment" from day 1. Paid $475 for it and had nothing but problems.

2. My wife has the "Transform" (I gave Samsung a mulligan for the Moment since it was 1st generation....) -- big mistake, almost as crappy as the Moment.

3. My Daughter has the "Intercept" -- got it at the same time as the Transform (so I did not have a chance to see that the Moment was more a precursor to the craptastic to come rather than a "one off" mistake.

Even without rooting and romming -- the EVO is head and shoulders above any of the Samsung phones I have seen. As far as being able to actually use it without weird things happening.

Yes....I said it --- that is the downfall of Samsung phones...."Weird things happen at a very slow pace, and even doing basic things like making a phone call or sending a text becomes a huge undertaking."

Had I not known better (owning other Android devices) -- could have sworn that Samsung was trying to make Android look like a steaming, buggy, not ready for prime time, piece of crap OS....When in fact it is not that at all.

As a last desperate measure before purchasing my EVO....I rooted and installed a custom ROM on my Moment -- and it actually was a pretty good experience to turn it into a device I could at least make phone calls on and send texts (which was worlds above stock Moment -- even though the GPS no longer worked.) So I can at least thank Samsung for forcing me to discover the world of custom roms.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
That's a value added post if I ever saw one.

How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
That I don't know. Good question.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Official, no. Testing, yes. Samsung could easily give a CDMA developer the device, but it'll be discreet until the carrier announcement. This was a good move by Samsung, but don't forget about the Nexus One and EVO 4G. Classy move by Samsung, but nothing HTC haven't done before and more.

Sent from the EVO 3D with Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).

This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.

Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.
[EVO 4G General] chandlerw88:
How is the screen on the 3d compared to a super amoled. I tried reading specs but have no idea what they mean. I just wanna be able to actually see my phone when I'm outside.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Yeah, hope your right..really do. To me it comes down to the camera quality and video quality...cause other than that the only thing it has going thats appreciatively better than my rooted gingerbread 4G!...is pixel density and that its faster.

To me the dealbreaker is how much better are its multimedia capabilities...(2D..not 3D)...cause this things (GS2) is crystalclear brilliant!
[EVO 4G General] Stuke00:
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Ignorance..
[EVO 4G General] LexLuger82:
Cheap ****s
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwyE3WJ4AWo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
huh????? lol
[EVO 4G General] ItsLasher:
I think it's great they are open to change like this BUT it can also back fire big time.

All it takes is one mistake then you get Samsung saying " SEE this is way you don't root. We gave them a chance and you see what happens". I think this is more of a marketing ploy then trying to show openness to other ideas.
[EVO 4G General] -viperboy-:
Do you realize you are comparing apples to oranges? You're talking about 3 low-end, borderline garbage Android phones and saying that a high end device feels way better. No kidding.

This is like saying "Well, I have 3 Honda's and I bought a BMW and it's a way better car." Really, sherlock?
[EVO 4G General] akarol:
Sammy seems like a nice guy, but why are you exposing your personal life here?!
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
well the nexus s 4g is a train wreck but im willing to give samsung another go with the galaxy s 2.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Another incorrect statement.. My Nexus S 4G is getting higher speeds. Stop using the speedtest app, it's been proven it was way off. Use speakeasy.net website, then come in here.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Wait...............hold up............I know YOU didn't just type that did you????

Must be a mistake....lol
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
While I agree that this is an awesome move by Samsung, I think you are mistaken in regards to HTC's locking down policy. I would think you would know this as an announcement was made 2 weeks ago and it was a pretty big deal. I do know this: if the evo 3d doesn't get CM7 support, I'll trade it for a sgs2. CM is just way too good to not have as an option.

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[EVO 4G General] mlin:
The epic 4g and ns4g are both high end devices and both are plagued with similar issues that were present in the moment.

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[EVO 4G General] mlin:
You act like the ns4g radio issues are a myth.

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[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
spl is a troll to the extreme. everybody but him had and is having issues. i cannot tell you the amount of people who have returned their devices already. he just thinks because his phone is ok, everybody elses should be!
[EVO 4G General] -viperboy-:
We were talking about an EVO, not either of those devices.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Toast is going to dev for the EVO 3d so cm is a go.
[EVO 4G General] sand1303:
Noooooooooooo!......don't do it! SAMSUNG SUCKS ASS!!
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Yeah and everyone acts like the Nexus S is the only device to suffer them. I never said it was a myth, but it is not a problem on all of them. I just remember when I first bought the EVO 4G that it took about 3 months to fully resolve the same issues. So again it just seems that the issue is over-exaggerated.

I wonder why someone made a topic about you? It was over 10 pages long with different users, all mentioning displeasure towards you and how you troll multiple boards and do it with different usernames. Yeah that was about Fixxxer, not to mention some of the links posted in it from other forums. ;) If you know what I mean. I don't see one topic with my name in it. When you say troll, go ahead and look in the mirror. Don't spew your hear-say garbage if you have 0 proof. I still can count about 10 stores in the Phoenix area that can't keep the Nexus S 4G in stock.

Maybe you should go ahead and re-learn the definition of a troll. Cause it seems to me that your totally unaware of what that word means. You make multiple accounts, that would be one of the biggest definitions of a troll. At least I can stick with one username ;)
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
And I was simply pointing out that the high end Samsung phones aren't much if any better than the low end phones.

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[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I said it before and Ill say it again, Samsung specs always look superior on paper, but in the real world usage wise they fail miserably. This goes from low end to the high end phones, and half the time the Samsung updates fudge the phone even more, if you even get any at all. So take it for what's its worth.
[EVO 4G General] spencer88:
Why the hell are you still here?
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
I don't see how they fail, since videos clearly show the phones are smooth are running fantastic. That's just an ignorant statement, I mean come on... Youtube Samsung phones and tell me they fail. I will agree with most that the build quality feels cheap, but by no means do the fail in performance. Plus if they failed why did the Galaxy S phones feel faster on 2.1 then the EVO 4G on 2.2? Why is the S2 faster then the Sensation and EVO 3D? Hmmm
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
??? Wtf? Every review from every major site as well as my use of the device says completely different.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Blanket statements like this are never true. While my experience with Samsung has been pretty terrible in regards to their Android phones, I know others who absolutely love their Epics (I don't know anyone who liked the Moment though, that phone was a POS no matter how you look at it). I'm sure the SGS2 will be a great device and hopefully will not be plagued with Samsung's various radio issues but, seeing as the EVO 3D will be released first, I will be buying it. If the SGS2 comes out and I like it more, then I'll trade/sell my EVO and get the SGS2, pending it has no issues.

I will not wait around for the SGS2 however, as I am sure when it is released the Nexus 3 will be being announced and if I wait for that, by the time its released the EVO 3 will be announced, and so on.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
http://androidspin.com/2011/06/02/a...ly-release-for-the-samsung-within-galaxy-s-2/

GS2 "Samsung Within" for Sprint should be out by July. Nexus 3 won't be announced till Dec time.
[EVO 4G General] Acapella75:
Why do Samsung phones all have bad reception and GPS issues? I owned the moment and the epic and returned them both due to that. A quick read on the forums confirms that. And the are slow to update their phones too.
[EVO 4G General] conflikt:
I'm considering getting the galaxy ii. But will it be better then the 3D is the question? If not ill wait for the nexus 3 :). I really think I'm passing on the new 3d and jumping on the Samsung wagon
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
That is the number 1 issue with Samsung; Their radios suck.

BTW, maybe mlin's Moment was a POS, but I had no problems with mine. I loved that phone, and ran it over a year without issue. Even did my own ROM for it. I sold it to a friend of mine and he still runs it, just fine. But I was always one of those people that just never had any issues with that phone.

Now, compared to the EVO, it might rate as junk, but overall, I thought it was pretty sweet, and with the port of 2.2, it's even better.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
My Samsung Moment was the worse android phone I have ever owned. And of course, compare the specs side by side with the hero and the Sammy looks like the superior phone. But its quite the opposite.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
You have to remember, too that the Moment was 1st generation Android Device.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
LOL, its the middle of June now, and not a peep from neither Sprint or Samsung, or even a leak of something about this phone. I highly doubt July is close to being accurate. Atleast they announced the 3d like months ago and its just getting released 2 weeks from now. Fat chance.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't know, it just depends on their strategy.

The WM7 phone was released within a few weeks of the announcement. Same with the Evo Shift I believe.
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
Mentioning the Moment, Transform, or Intercept (which is quite obviously bottom of the barrel junk for cheap people, I mean look at the screen resolution!!!!) in the same breath as the Galaxy S 2 has to be a joke.

Let's not for the get host of problems the HTC Evo launched with and still has, all minor qibbles and QC problems.
[EVO 4G General] barbiedollish:
Having owned both an Instinct and Moment, I can't lie and say that Samsung's track record is that great but I'm definitely not 100% pleased with HTC either. Everyone wants to praise HTC and the Evo like their **** doesn't stink too. Just like Samsung can have ****ty build quality, so can HTC. The Evo itself is a good example of that. Dead pixels, light leakage, screen lifting, blown speakers, cracked power buttons, broken usb ports....the list goes on. HTC may update their phones quicker, but I can't pretend that HTC's software is flawless either. Anyone remember the bricking fiasco with froyo? People have reported having issues with the GB update as well. Don't even get me started on the terrible battery life that HTC is NOTORIOUS for. This isn't meant to bash the Evo or HTC whatsoever because I honestly like both. But to try to stop people from buying the GSII and recklessly bashing it for some of the same issues you can have with ANY manufacturer is just plain silly. It looks like it's turning out to be a great device so far. But only time will tell. I'm definitely willing to give it a try though.
[EVO 4G General] auau465121:
I think yall need to check out this Vid it is the HTC Sensation vs the Samsung Galaxy S 2 yes it is not the Evo 3D but its basically beaks down to the two platforms both phone are running that is sense 3.0. vs Touch Wiz 4.0 and make great points on both side check it out.

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2
[EVO 4G General] ItsLasher:
A Sense look on the GS2 would be the go because Touchwiz is ugly as hell.

If the GS2 had a higher res screen and a Sense look UI it would be killer all around.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
Amen brother.

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G General] Stuke00:
My experience with Samsung is every phone I have had by them has been junk. I went thru FIVE samsung moments that all had the same issue before they finally reset the upgrade on that and was able to get the Epic 4g for my wife. That phone continues to also have issues, sometimes the 3g radio will turn off and she has to reboot. Now I hear the Nexus S 4g also has radio issues...

I've also owned 2 HTC phones and 5 of my friends also have EVO's and the only issue I have had is a broken USB port.

Ever tried to get a custom rom for a samsung epic 4g phone? There really isn't any out there that doesn't have touchwiz crap on it or other gps issues and whatnot. Maybe this will be good for the Samsung dev community, but it just looks to me like Samsung is trying to get free development instead of hiring the right people to do it right.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
The Sprint Hero was a pile of trash. That thing was so laggy and slow, we had 4 of those. The Moment wasn't my favorite either, but at least the thing was much smoother and played games at a much more desirable FPS. Heck of my friends and family I know with the Hero hated it, and had multiple ones. The forums and the Sprint board were so full of complaints. Now the unlocked Hero for some reason did not suffer the issues, and was a much smoother UI experience.

I don't see why their is anything wrong with 480x800? Every phone I have played with seem to look awesome at that res. I mean yeah the higher resolution is nicer, but it's just like comparing a PC game and what res to play it at. Everyone has a different res they like to play at. Still even at the 480x800 and with Super AMOLED Plus the screen is brilliant.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Well said!!

I know from my time on SDX, I was one of the few lucky ones that had a really good Moment, with good radios and no issues.

Just lucky, I guess
[EVO 4G General] barbiedollish:
They could be but I don't really see it like that. It seems like its a marketing strategy. With Motorola && HTC (temporarily) locking down bootloaders && shutting out developers, it only makes sense for Samsung to step in and try to entice devs because their dev community is seriously lacking. If they can get a larger dev community behind them, they know the developers and the rest of the masses will come flocking eventually.
[EVO 4G General] barbiedollish:
My moment wasn't too bad either once SDX started picking up momentum. Thank goodness for Caulkin && everyone else because I probably would've thrown that damn thing into wall.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Agreed, no manufacturer is perfect but my HTC issues have never impeded the use of my phone, my Samsung issues have. I'd rather have light leakage than a broken radio.

greed, no manufacturer is perfect but my HTC issues have never impeded the use of my phone, my Samsung issues have. I'd rather have light leakage than a broken radio.

Case in point: I still have my launch day evo with light a cracked power button and a bad charging cord being my only problems. My wife is on her 4th Epic after having 3 Moments. My brother in law is on his 3rd moment as well. Previously I owned a TP, TP2, Diamond, Vogue, and mogul- none of which were problematic. I have not ruled out Samsung and if the sgs2 is without traditional issues I may get one.

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[EVO 4G General] backdown:
If Samsung gave me a phone, i would sell it right away. If i couldn't sell it, i would smash it. They are terrible with their updates, and the quality of the phones suck. I had the moment (lower entry android, but still) and it had nothing but problems since the beginning that Samsung refused to take care of.

Samsung is the Apple, of Android. They copy everyone else, and try to make it better. Make or break.
[EVO 4G General] goodboynyc:
Some of the responses I've read through this one topic are sad. To favor one thing is fine, but to bash another simply because you don't favor them is downright disgusting.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I bash Samsung from the experiences I had using their products, from missed calls to dead batteries all day, from data locks to an unusable GPS, I want to like Samsung because they support open source and the development community, but at the end of the day its just more problems then its worth.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
im going to give the galaxy s 2 a try... looks like a beast!
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
You don't actually believe this do you?

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[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Yeah considering my sources at Sprint in the market dept. confirmed it could happen. The phone is coming, and it's already been named on all carriers. We are just awaiting a release for all US carriers. I work in this business, and my sources are pretty good. 90% of the time being on the money.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Yeah ok. Likely story.

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[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Once it passes through the FCC then they will come quick. Plus a word of advice if you don't work in the news business, I would suggest not acting like you know a thing or two about it. I don't get how you think something like this is unlikely? Considering the Galaxy S came out the same time last year as well.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I'm not going to argue with you but I'm quite convinced you don't know what you're talking about. Its all good, if you're right I'll be surprised. I'm pretty sure the gs1 was not released in July last year and in fact I think it was released mid-late August.

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[EVO 4G General] Bigjim1488:
+1
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Duplicate

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[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Your convinced? Wow that ain't sayin much. Your an average user on XDA, I could care less what your convinced of. I do news and blogging about Android for a living. I don't just linger in forums and then go around thinking I know everything about Android, just because I was a regular member to a forum. I learned from being in the business, and being around since the G1 days. I also am not biased towards just one platform, I have many other devices with other OS's.

The Vibrant from T-Mobile was available on July 21st of last year, Epic was available in early August, and the Fascinate was originally slated for July 28th and was pushed to Sep because of VZW's strict firmware policy.

Your also the user that mentioned at PPCgeeks that WP7 was going to be a force in the future and that you were going to be getting one of those. Those posts were last month..
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20013418-251.html

Like I said, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The fact that you do this for a living just means you're not very good at your job. I stick by what I said about wp7. Its a very good platform and probably the most innovative on the market. In fact, I'm buying an arrive this weekend to test out while I wait for the evo 3d.

If you want to continue this, send me a pm.

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[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
You didn't post about the other two.. lol :p Welcome to this world. In case you haven't noticed all news bloggers and people in this business take blows from people. I'm pretty used to it. So if you tell me i'm bad at my job? Cool! At least i'm putting a roof over my families head and putting food on the table. ;) We take blows all the time, it's best to forget it and move on.

Clearly shows you only know about Sprint. Wait how many Android phones have you owned besides the EVO? Just a simple question
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
No, please, continue. A little boring around here tonight.

:)
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
Ummm, we're talking about the likelihood of a July release if the sgs2 on Sprint. It's the only carrier that matters in this conversation. Besides, I was pointing out that you don't even know when the epic was released, you said early August. The last day of the month is hardly early...

Yeah man, there are a lot of people that suck at their job. But as long as they get paid they don't really care.

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[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
I have my many followers and my many haters. Welcome to this world :D

Just because one says you suck at your job doesn't mean you do. I get it all the time, but again writers get let go pretty easily if they don't have a significant following. Just sayin
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Then move on you blog troll. Samsung sucks and the SGS2 will be just like SGS1. Flashy screen but **** build quality.. even reviewers have said it feels cheap.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
You didn't quite address the fact that you don't know what you're talking about.

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[EVO 4G General] jonathan413:
lol wow one you mention samsung in this thread ppl turn into ravaged zombies!!!lmao
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Weird it seemed every review said it was the best Android device out right now. I mean at the least the 25 of them that I read. Troll? :rolleyes:

Yet you just came into this topic with your biased opinion, while never even touching the SGS2. You sir were trolling with that response.

Tell me about, kinda wishing I had never given my two cents in this topic.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
I don't have to hold it to see in those videos the plastic twist and shout all day. Ill eat my words when SGS2 is 6 months in with minor issues but if the trend continues......