yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeycohen:
Phone is updated and not rooted

OK, funny story.

I set an alaram clock for this morning and when I woke up and tapped the phone for snooze, I tapped "Install Now" on the new version pop-up...

So I updated all the way to 1.83 and now my phone is not rooted and I cannot use Backup Root.

Back to my previous questions, how should I backup my data, applications and applications data?

Do I need any special drivers etc in order to use GingerBreak?

Oh, and SuperUser is installed. Should I uninstall it first?

The phone is not GingerBread. Is it still ok to run GingerBreak?

Thanks
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Look at the bottom of the OP from my Gingerbreak link. There is a link to a Gingerbreak.exe which you run on your computer while your phone is connected wuth USB Debugging On. This will install Gingerbreak on your phone and you will see it in your application list from where you can run the app and get root.

We do not have Gingerbread yet. We are still on Froyo.

Download Motohelper from Motorola and all the required drivers should install when you connect your phone to your PC after that.

Backup your internal sdcard using copy/paste, then copy and paste everything back after you use Gingerbreak.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bandis710:
In spare parts there is an option to change the fontsize, I think that is a great option because I think the stock font size is way to big .. I use extra small in spare parts .. However the font size setting in spare parts will not stick, changing screen orientation or rebooting will reset the font size .. Is there a way that the font size can be changed and that it will stick ?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tylerdrews:
I noticed this with spare parts as well... the only thing i found is using "Root Tools" -jrummy. You can get in the market, and use it to flash new smaller font. That Worked for me...

But fyi one thing you may find some calculator buttons disappear depending on the font you choose...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloogshizer:
Hi,

as there are many questions in in many threads regarding whether a ROM allows using the camera or not, here is some help:

The Defy is delivered with two (as to the date of this post) camera sensors, one with a GREEN lens and one with a RED one.

To identify which camera you have, some capable and friendly members took photos which show the difference:

GREEN lens:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12694642&postcount=31 by Quaza and the

first two

photos of

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14330238&postcount=10 by zakoo2

RED lens:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12699552&postcount=34 by viper. and the

last three

photos of

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14330238&postcount=10 by zakoo2

So if in doubt, please check your lens before asking.

BTW: With the newly released Gingerbread

SBFs

the camera will ONLY work on Defys with the RED lens. This might be due to the fact that these releases target a successor device of the Defy AKA DefyPlus, Defy+, MB526. With these leaked releases, the camera on GREEN lens Defys might

NEVER

work, because the new device will probably not be delivered wit a green lens.

EDIT:

As noted below, the lens color alone is not a reliable indicator to identify the camera module. It seems to depend on the camera module, not the lens itself, whether recording works or not. Please read the very informative post 2. The problem, however, only exists with the leaked MotoBlur SBFs (2.3.3, 2.3.4), not CM7 based ROM

s.

To find out the module of your phone you can try the method explained by martin.flory on page 4 of this thread:

Yours,

CS
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mainbord:
"With the newly released Gingerbread SBFs the camera will ONLY work on Defys with the RED"

It not absolutely so. Color of the camera doesn't influence record possibility. Record possibility is influenced by the camera module. The camera module can be defined in ADB.

If you have in logcat(app of ADB) after boot

D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected SOC device

- this is old camera module - this camera might be green or red

If D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected BAYER device

- this is new camera module - this camera might be green or red

It is inspected in practice
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farsight73:
To prove this.. Does anyone with phisically green lense able to flash 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 and having working camera regardless of date of device manufatured??
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _ReBoot_:
Yes it is information from 4pda.ru

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=209591&view=findpost&p=7587208
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rafaelw:
I have readed something about the size of a taken pircture, that the green (old) one have smaller file size, like 500 kb to 900kb , and the red (new) ones have about 1mb to more.

This is true???

thanks
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hackergnome:
Yeas it is 1.4+Mb is red!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farsight73:
First it's Russian. But it is for 720p patch video recording (if I'm not mistaken), of course everyone can use it regardless your camera lens colour.

I don't think any green lenses can run stock gingerbread 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 like those red lenses owner having it right after flashed.

But it may work too I wouldn't surprise as some brilliant developer might just crack it for good.

Sent from my awesome Moto Defy Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NashXDA:
I am almost certain i have a Green lens [ March 2011 ] and can also confirm with the 720p Record zip i can record at 720p but at the time of playback the video seems like i recorded it in a dual mirror mode hard to explain almost like everything is out of focus and mirrored .
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salimbest83:
my camera looks green ( from outside) but stil can use MIUI 1.6.3
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adi4motion:
is there any place we can buy BAYER camera module for defy?:D
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runeblade:
I find this interesting. I have a Defy from Nov 2010 with a Green lens, B04, that is running 2.3.4 Cyanogen with no problem. Camera has no problem either.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mainbord:
We tell about official 2.3.4. On cyanogenmod all camera's work well. On official 2.3* work only bayer modules.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rbeier1221:
This is irrelevant. The issue is only with the leaked SBF for 2.3.3 GingerBlur.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diamond_lover:
Damn I want buy it too :p
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farsight73:
I agree. Those modded rom like custom CM7 and custom Miui will work on all Defy regardless of the camera module/color. One must know to put on test with leaked official stock 2.3.3 or the leaked official stock 2.3.4 and see if it working. Up until now only camera with red lenses Defy would work on these leaked stock rom.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mainbord:
I repeat that workability of the camera on of 2.3.3 depends not on color of the camera, and from the camera's module
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dzzdefy:
OK.i will test it my defy .it has yellow lens.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkai:
Oh crap, just received my new defy. Good news is that Android 2.2.2 is installed by default. Well, good, I am not sure, it may makes installing custom rom more difficult than with a 2.1 flashed with Nordic froyo.

But the camera is more greenish than redish, and with starting photo application with adb logcat, SOC device got detected :-( :-( . Does it means that an "official" gingerbead and, more important, an unlocked bootloader is out of question for me? :-(
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bether:
You may to buy BAYER camera from service place. Costs about 40$.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloogshizer:
Thanks. I tried to clarify this in the OP.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danimagrin:
Could you tell us when your defy was manufactured?

Do you guys know if the camera module is soldered or just connected to phone's mainboard?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bether:
Camera module isn't soldered.

Look at this:

MB525 Motorola Defy Disassembly Part 2
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkai:
I'd like to tell u when it was manufactured....but how do I get this info? In Soft (I think it would be unreliable, could have been flashed as part of refurbishing / stock move in Europe /...

Is the info printed somewhere in the phone, behind the battery maybe? I did not pay much attention when I inserted the battery or the simcard, but nothing obvious attracted my attention....
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _ReBoot_:
Of gengerbgread for old modules

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1130656

bootloader on defy in lock, bootmenu (second boot) installing on all Defy's

This is very simple, find bayer module...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I verified my lens today, red :)

I found quality comparison at motorola support forums:

flickr.com/photos/grml/5427831738/sizes/o/in/photostream/

flickr.com/photos/grml/5427831746/sizes/o/in/photostream/
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bether:
Here are more photos:

http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/index.php?make=Motorola&model=MB525

http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/index.php?make=Motorola&model=MB525+61ae0022ffd800000160ac3118029012

Now I'm owner red lens too.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
Defy noob here. Can someone tell how to check for the camera module using adb? I have seen the commands but what all to do before that?

Also my camera lens looks more green than red. However the size of almost all the photos I have taken is more than 1mb, in some case about 1.8mb. Does that mean anything?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkai:
For information, I just learned that my green lensed defy was manufactured in china (tianjin) first half of may 2011

I think that maybe motorola first used green lenses, then red ones, and lately is back to green ones...unfortunately for me ;)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
Same here. Mine is manufactured in china too.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadalzeal:
thanks for this information, green lens that can capture 1mb+ has other shade of colors just look at the lens carefully under direct light. Mine is green but I can see shade of yellow then blue then orange(only 1 person saw this shade among the people that I asked to check the color of my lens)

yellow/blue/orange lenses are considered to be red :D
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
That is very subjective. If we could use the adb that would be better but I could not find a detailed description of how to do it.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martin.flory:
Easiest way I found:

1. Install this free app. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nolanlawson.logcat

2. Open the app

3. hit home

4. open camera

5. exit camera

6. open app

7. search "CameraCommon".

8. Either :D or :mad:

I found out I have the SOC module, which sucks.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gommers1978:
I do not have any CameraCommon or Bayer or SOC found in the logcat. But my camera works on 2.3.4 and can record 720p so I assume i have a Bayer :-)

Other LogCat says mCameraDevice=null LOL
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
^^

Same here. However I haven't loaded a custom rom so that I do not violate the warranty.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luciferps:
i have green lens and i have seen from tht application that i have soc library

but i recently purchased my device that is manufactured in july 2011

so can i install everything ???

mind u that when i click pictures i have 1mb+ file size???
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NashXDA:
I have a Green lens and its a Bayer ..hAPPY hAPPY !!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
How did you find out?

Edit

OK. Finally I have discovered that I too have a bayer camera.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gommers1978:
How did you find out?

I can record 720p so i know i have a bayer but i cant find it in logcat.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
Somehow today when I tried in the logcat, it showed I have a Bayer device.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twa_priv:
Does anyone know if the all black (no white part) defys all have a bayer (mostly red) lense? Or do some of them have a SOC device?

Thanks
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] casouzaj:
Unfortunately, not. My Defy is all black, but as it was manufactured last December, it has a SOC camera module. So, it seems the Bayer ones were made more recently, probably from 2nd quarter 2011 on.

Just my 2 cents....

Regards,

Carlos
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gommers1978:
My defy was manufactured early january 2011 and has bayer module. So not completely true. And there are people that have one from june 2011 and they have a SOC module. So Moto has used them for only a short time and then reverted back again??
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
I have a phone manufactured in second quarter of this year. On naked eye examination, I am not sure if I have a red or a green lens. However the logcat reads bayer device found and most of the photos that I take are more than 1mb.

However I don't think it makes much of a difference as long as I do not root and plan to install the leaked gb.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chab7:
My total black Defy is QJ numbered 2011 April?-May?, and has SOC camera
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XianHuen:
I have libbayercamera.so in system/lib. So i have Bayer cam?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juli9797:
I have this file too, but logcat says i have a SOC module :confused:

sorry for my bad english

Julian
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkai:
I think that libsoc and libbayer are always present, regardless of the actual camera module. Much easier for moto to include both in the defy and not bother to customize system image to the defy variant being produced. For the defy+, it is different, as there is only bayer camera, soc support is not included (no sense to spend resource testing a hardware configuration that do not exists - with the added benefit that it makes flashing defy+ kernels on defy more tricky.

To be sure, do a logcat and start your camera, ou will immediately see which module is loaded by the kernel - this is the module physically present in your phone. In my case, bad luck, it is SOC...even if my defy was manufactured recently (end of may).. Not sure exactly which batches got a bayer and which ones got a soc, but it is not a matter of replacing SOC by Bayer. Maybe Moto went back to the SOC when it started to manufacture Defy+ (= rebranded Defy with Bayer cam). In fact, they probably changed the case color of the red lensed defy and updated OS to gingerbread and voila, a Defy+ ready to be marketed :-)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juli9797:
Your right there is a libbayercamera.so too

sorry for my bad english

Julian
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Football Fan:
My camera lens physically looks red and this is what a part of the logcat shows:

D/LibCommonCamera( 1890): CameraCommonHal: openCameraHardware()

D/LibCommonCamera( 1890): CameraCommon: Detected BAYER device

This means i have the Bayer right? And i can record 720p?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkai:
yes, you have a Bayer cam module, and should be able to record in 720p. Lucky you ;-)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zakoo2:
i dont get why people are so crazy about 720p recording, seen some videos, the quality was horrible. i have an soc module, and i'm happy with it. even if the defy+ comes out i dont care about the gb kernel, since i got cm7 (i dont think the official gb will be any better then our cm7, judging by the previous official releases), and most defy users have soc module, so i wont be left alone... can anybody tell me a REAL benefit of the bayer module??
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gommers1978:
My videos with 720p are not horrible it records at 24fps and very good quality. I run the official GB nandroid and must say i very happy with it, would not run anything else. The photo quality of the bayer was somewhat better then the SOC (there is a comparison somewhere on the forum and the internet)

I think it does not matter what module you have as long as you are happy with your Defy. And if you want to record in high definition why use a phone and not a camera? I can record at 720p but it is not that i will shoot a movie with my phone ;)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zakoo2:
i have a camera patch applied with which the picture quiality is as least as good as with a bayer module. and yeah, if somebody wants to record good quality hd videos, do it with a hd camera, not a phone!

sent from my cm7 defy...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emadtava:
hi guys

SOC module can record 720p??

my phone is soc and green lens...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gommers1978:
No Srry this is still not possible
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saurav_k:
I finally after some research bought my first android and a bit unlucky that i got the green lens defy.

Anyways, cant help it now.

As a complete newbie to android - Following are a few doubts/queries:

- Now that I have green lens, 2.3.3 official leaked sbf wont work. right?

- CM7 will work fine but without 720p recording. Right?

Is there a way to install CM7 and get the phone back to stock 2.2 in a state I can get warranty cover in case i need it?

Plz guide me :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chab7:
These are general questions and many answered.

Yes, you can use camera in CM7 and yes, without 720p record (because of green lens)

Yes you can flash official 2.2 back after CM7, just follow the instructions.

(edit: oh sorry, I had missed third question, but the answer came in next thread ;) )
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zakoo2:
two questions were already answered above, so ill just answer to the remaining one:

2.3.3 will work, but not the camera. but have a look at this, might be interested:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1130656&highlight=greenbreadmod
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan8r:
It hardly makes a difference to me as I dont record all that video from my phone.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SeiferTV:
I might be just being a fool, BUT

Can't EXIF data tell us anything on this subject?

I'd imagine that something as important as the lens would be specified somewhere in there.

Just a thought ;)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raghul:
even i couldn't find "cameracommon" so i just searched for "camera" and found this...

i guss SOC it is.. but no problem for me as i only take pics..not much videos :)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bether:
EXIF is definitely diferent, but simple look at ISOSpeedRatings. If is 0 you have SOC device:

1. green lens

ImageWidth - 2592

ImageLength - 1456

Orientation - Top left

Make - Motorola

Model - MB525

Software - 2.2.1

DateTime - 2011:04:13 16:38:10

ResolutionUnit - Inch

XResolution - 300

YResolution - 300

YCbCrPositioning - Centered

ExifOffset - 216

Flash -

SceneCaptureType - Standard

ApertureValue - F 2.83

FocalLength - 3.92 mm

UserComment -

DateTimeOriginal - 2011:04:13 16:38:10

DateTimeDigitized - 2011:04:13 16:38:10

ColorSpace - sRGB

ExifVersion - 0220

ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr

FlashPixVersion - 0100

ExifImageWidth - 2592

ExifImageHeight - 1456

ISOSpeedRatings - 0

Thumbnail: -

Compression - 6 (JPG)

JpegIFOffset - 498

JpegIFByteCount - 19136

2. red lens

Make - Motorola

Model - MB525

Orientation - Top left

XResolution - 300

YResolution - 300

ResolutionUnit - Inch

Software - 2.3.4

DateTime - 2011:09:25 14:00:21

YCbCrPositioning - Centered

ExifOffset - 686

ExposureTime - 1/1436.8 seconds

FNumber - 2.80

ExposureProgram - Portrait mode

ISOSpeedRatings - 59

ExifVersion - 0220

DateTimeOriginal - 2011:09:25 14:00:21

DateTimeDigitized - 2011:09:25 14:00:21

ComponentsConfiguration - CbYCr

CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4 (bits/pixel)

ShutterSpeedValue - 1/1436 seconds

ApertureValue - F 2.80

BrightnessValue - 9.23

ExposureBiasValue - 0.00

MaxApertureValue - F 2.80

SubjectDistance - 0 m

MeteringMode - Center weighted average

LightSource - D55

Flash - Flash not fired, compulsory flash mode

FocalLength - 4 mm

UserComment -

FlashPixVersion - 0100

ColorSpace - sRGB

ExifImageWidth - 2592

ExifImageHeight - 1456

InteroperabilityOffset - 1472

ExposureIndex - 59

SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor

FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera

SceneType - A directly photographed image

ExposureMode - Auto

White Balance - Auto

DigitalZoomRatio - 0 x

FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 30 mm

SceneCaptureType - Portrait

GainControl - Low gain up

Contrast - Normal

Saturation - Normal

Sharpness - Normal

SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown

Thumbnail: -

Compression - 6 (JPG)

ResolutionUnit - Inch

JpegIFOffset - 2138

JpegIFByteCount - 30263
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jassi32:
anything for green lens cm nightly build

can i have any update for defy green lens for wvga record or 720p recording or playback ..........
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chab7:
wvga record works with cm7.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyambayo97:
both me and my friend discovered that there was a difference between our defy because mine camera when i looked at his physically had a green lense in the centre whilst my friend had a red lense:)

im not sure if this is the presice way of how you workout wheteher your defy is green lensed or red lensed but you know, its just an idea:)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silentsnow31802:
Is there any other way to check what camera module is installed? I can't get my log to show it.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veimus:
amber lens and module Bayer in my Defy + I had the same color in the old Defy
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spyki007:
according to my observation.......

defys manufactured in between march and june [2011] comes with red lens[bayer's module].......... remaining all are green lens[soc module]......

mine is unlucky :D module.............
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adie82:
does this mean im in red team?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meilbox:
@up

yep ;p

but to be honest 720p camcoder doesnt make any difference ... sh@### cam will always be a sh@#$ cam ;p
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adie82:
thanks for clarify this for me!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedoginthewok:
I have a red lens with the Bayer Device and CM7.

Is the 720p patch possible with CM7 ?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetcraze:
No as far as I know.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovu85:
hi, i'm running MIUI an searched for the SOC/BAYER in catlog but i could't find neither. what is the problem?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] popcorn1122:
did u start camera and stop it and then checked ?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] remix96:
I have a green lens, and a Bayer Module so... i can flash the GingerBread SBFs on my Defy?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lefedor:
CM7, logcat method:

7. search "CameraCommon" / "JordanCameraWrapper"
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erpato:
I can´t found my camera module in catlog. An other form?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mandhir.s.bajwa:
Same here, I could never find the module in there...

Color of the lens is Green and the pics I click are always more then 1.5 MB
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] esok44:
Stumbled over this thread, dunno why oO

can you tell me what kinda camera patch/magic you installed, would like to use it too :D
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] densets:
You should add that there is a camera module that has orange lense, like mine. Most if not all are bayer modules.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayanth1255:
Yeaa.. Mine is also Red... Thank you :):):)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dinesh07:
motor defy+ red+green lens

Hi ....My defy+ is combination of Green+red. Hard to identify....8 people said it's golden lens others green or may be red....I going to upload a img soon ..

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