yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] craigkahn:
Why? 5/18 was a month ago.
[HTC Sensation] TJBunch1228:
Anyone notice the Walmart ad says 4.5" AMOLED? Walmart FTW!
[HTC Sensation] staulkor:
Picked on up from Walmart in Chandler, AZ. I called and the guys said they didnt have any, and I mentioned they came out today and he looked again and said he found a bunch in a box :P

Unfortunately it is SHIP S-ON.

Kernel 2.6.35-10-gb 7a86da htc-kernel@and18-2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 20 21:28:40 CST 2011

Baseband 10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15_M

Build Number 1.29.531.2 CL70849 release-keys
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
Walmart in Scottsdale, AZ.
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
I guess that the date they started making some of the devices and they still had S-OFF. :confused: I mean thats the only thing that i can think of. cause a couple of people have been posting that they got there device and the date on the back of the box said 05/25/2011 and they have S-ON. on my boot screen it said

May 13 , 2011. look at the pics in the previous pages.
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
Is the May 13,2011 date identical to the date on the back of the box?
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
lmao.. thats way off. its actually a Super LCD High-Resolution (qHD) lol Walmart.
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
No The date on the box is 05/18/2011.... MaY 13 is the date that my phone indicates when u power it on holding the volume down key and power .
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt T-Mobile would delay the release date of the most anticipated phone on T-Mobile's network a week to make sure the boot loader is unlocked. It's because of something else like bug fixes.

My .02.

P.S. Not saying that unlocked bootloader won't be part of the bug fix, but it WILL NOT be the reason for a launch delay. Launch delay's are huge!
[HTC Sensation] :
It's already been stated in earlier pages that the reason for Tmobile's delay is on behalf of HTC. HTC is trying to get there HTC Hub up and running. Its in previous pages in this thread.
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
THe funny thing about the delay of the launch date is that we have had the sensations at my store for over a week now. That being said if they wanted to release the device tomorrow we would have plenty to mee the demand.

i think that it also has alot to do with the big promo the T-Mobile is gonna have on the 18th..
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
Could be, but why have a preliminary launch set for months to change it last second for a promo? I work for T-Mobile too (Field Technician Phoenix) and it was announced a while back for a June 8 launch. If it is a SW upgrade, thought, I'm not sure how they will push it to all those phones powered off and not activated. Maybe when they are sold?

With what you said why launch 3 days before the promotion if its related to the promotion? *Bangs head on desk trying to figure out T-Mobile's internal decision making*

Either way, as employees, we're waiting till the 15th to get it. Unless you want to pay $600 at Walmart!
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
What sale?
[HTC Sensation] setzer715:
Was that linked to an official announcement (link please) or just someones guess? I don't remember reading that post so I'm asking.
[HTC Sensation] xboarder56:
fathersday sale most phones are free
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
LOL .. I am a Retail Associate Manager in Miami FL, .. I was lucky enough to go to the HTC even here in Miami ON the 6th and everyone that attended the event got one free and clear. I also agree with you on the fact that the phones that we have at our locations for over a week won't be getting any updates powered off and in boxes..
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
Would that include a new phone like the sensation?
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
if T-Mobile decides to do the promo like last year then YES. All phones were free at the stores with a NEW 2 Years ACTIVATION, that didn't apply for contract renewals
[HTC Sensation] omarlopez813:
Or Who knows they might do the BOGO promo for contract renewals ..Lets just hope it all works out for all of us ...
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
Well this makes things tough. Get it from cheap and early (Wal-Mart) or wait and potentially get it 2 for 1 or even better free. (T-Mobile)
[HTC Sensation] TJBunch1228:
If I'm not mistaken, you can just return it to Walmart if tmo has such a deal on father's day. You will still be within your return window.
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
For what it's worth, mine looks as follows

PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT-1.17.0008

eMMC-boot

May 13 2011,21:04:57
[HTC Sensation] chibichi:
How do you check the sensation to see if its S-ON or S-OFF?
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
Power down, then hold Volume Down+Power
[HTC Sensation] chibichi:
Thank you!
[HTC Sensation] mcp2009:
gonna check york, pa tomoro I'll let you guys know!!
[HTC Sensation] Lcrkz0023:
It was me back on page 18. It was told to me by tmo Loyality Rep. It makes sense in the totality of the convo we had but of course like with anything you can believe what you want...i was just sharing info :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1114380&page=18
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
in your guys opinion , I have an Nexus S and a xoom.. would you get rid of your N S in favor of this phone? I dont want to lose my mlb tv and netflix capabilities.. who know when it will be compatible with this phone
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
I would say yes. I can't comment on the mlb tv, but I am using Netflix on my Sensation
[HTC Sensation] brian6685:
Anyone get the sensation at any walmarts in Atlanta?

G2X & Nexus S
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
what you do to get it on? it was in the market? or you sideloaded it?
[HTC Sensation] zero258:
Got mine yesterday afternoon at the Walmart on Peachtree Industrial.
[HTC Sensation] brian6685:
Really? Did they have anymore?

G2X & Nexus S
[HTC Sensation] brian6685:
G2X & Nexus S
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
I just installed the apk I found in the Desire forum using Astro. I attached it, if anyone wants to try it
[HTC Sensation] zero258:
I would guess so. The sales associate said I was the first to buy one. He didn't even know how much they cost.
[HTC Sensation] brian6685:
They keep telling me on the phone that they don't have any. I just called again and they told me the same thing lol

G2X & Nexus S
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
The nexus s sucks dude... I had that phone for a couple of weeks when it launched and actually gave it away lol sell sell sell! the nexus s is not "4g" its made of the cheap feeling plastic....and as far as the apps, they will be available eventually if not already available now. screen is bigger on the sensation, sensation also is full hd recording etc....dual core.... I can go on forever....I hate samSUCK :D
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
I'm gonna check my local Wal-Mart later see if I get lucky.
[HTC Sensation] brian6685:
Do you like it?

G2X & Nexus S
[HTC Sensation] jankyboy:
I was able to pick one up last night at the Wal-Mart on the north end of Colorado Springs (Razorback Rd.). I didn't ask how many they had, but the guy mentioned he had only sold one other Sensation.

Regarding the other chatter on this thread regarding S-ON/OFF, date, etc.:

Date on box is 5/26/2011

Details in bootloader:

PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT-1.17.0008

eMMC-boot

May 13 2011, 21:04:57

Not really sweatin' the S-ON... I figure HTC will release some sort of software update that will unlock the bootloader.

BTW, this phone rocks... so fast!
[HTC Sensation] AZbear:
I got one at the Tempe AZ Walmart at Southern and Rural yesterday afternoon. They had 3 left then.
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
I don't know if anyone is in or around Knoxville, TN, but I got mine at the Walmart on Clinton Highway. They had 4-5 left when I got mine yesterday, and I was the first to buy one
[HTC Sensation] mpjohns3:
Long time reader, first post. Thank you everyone here who alerted me to Walmart carrying them, I stopped by 4 different ones and finally found one that had them (or at least would admit to it) only to find out that even though I'm authorized to modify my T-mobile account, the primary account holder (my mom, who lives across the country) can upgrade a line. So since I can't buy one, thought I'd let anyone in the Tampa area know that the Walmart on Fletcher has at least one in stock. Soooooooo close but no go for me :mad: Guess I'll wait until the Father's Day Sale and hopefully get an S-off for free.
[HTC Sensation] zero258:
I haven't had much time with it but so far I'm happier with it than with the G2X. I had reboots and freezes the first day on the G2X. I'm so glad I returned it. Now I'm just patiently waiting to root it so I can remove the bloatware.
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
Took me 2 phone calls to locate one. The 1st Wal-Mart told me they don't even carry T-Mobile branded phones.
[HTC Sensation] stepinmyworld:
Thanks. The netflix apk works :)
[HTC Sensation] stepinmyworld:
Yeah many told me that but I called a popular one.. like a bigger store so to speak and they said yup they have them ready to go. The first day I got it, the battery was hot but now it has not been that way since. It's moving faster for some reason. Maybe it needed to adjust to being active
[HTC Sensation] Scoop24:
I believe T-Mobile has multiline primary account holder . You might want to call check into it.
[HTC Sensation] cmylxgo:
Anyone in MI outside the Detroit Metro Area get a phone from Walmart? Every single store in a 50 mile radius does not sell T-Mobile phones :(

-CMY
[HTC Sensation] cmylxgo:
This thread made it to pocket now :) this is like the 3rd or 4th time thats happend to one of my threads or work :)

http://pocketnow.com/android/some-walmarts-selling-htc-sensation-4g-early-for-149

-CMYLXGO
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
Since that pissed off T-Mobile rep I kept running into locked down my town (Greensboro, NC) I just decided to hit High Point and pick one up retail. I plan on returning it for the father's day sale and use one of my upgrades then.

Walmart has NO restocking fee fyi. I was told I could return it to a T-Mobile store in 14 days or to Walmart in 30.

My box was dated the 25th with S-ON
[HTC Sensation] k87:
How do you know that Walmart doesnt have any restocking fee?

If thats true, I can just buy one for 14 days, use it and see how I like it and return it back without having to pay anything? At the sametime spending 14 days to figure out I like it or not?
[HTC Sensation] Gamesoul Master:
@digiholic: It's 14 days even through Walmart (I run the Connection Center at the New Berlin, WI store). It used to be 30, but they changed it around the end of last year to be 14 days for all carriers. Although it seems some people didn't bother reading that when it was announced on the Wire. If you try to return it after 14 days... they *might* let you do it if you rant about them saying it was 30 days, but that's only a chance, and hopefully not a chance you'll need to take.

@k87: No, there is no restocking fee at Walmart. That has always been the case for everything we sell, and I'm surprised there are still people who don't know that... lol. And yes, it's as simple as you say. Although if you use anything that costs extra (say, you get the 500 anytime minutes and end up going over that), you'll have to pay for that overage. Also, you *might* have to fight with T-Mobile about not paying the activation fee if you return it after the third day. They shouldn't charge you for it, but just keep an eye out for it if you do decide to cancel before your 14 days.

I got in some Sensations the other day, no mention of a release date or anything about having to wait to sell them. Called my T-Mobile rep, he said he *thought* the release date was the 12th, but that since we got them early and neither him nor us got any word about holding them, I could sell them right away.

That being said, I'm dropping Virgin Mobile (I haven't seen anything above 2G speeds in the last month now, and data "fails" on me more and more often) and getting this phone. Actually getting the phone in and looking at it was the last straw, I have officially fallen in love with it.
[HTC Sensation] tampabay2004:
I'm headed to the walmarts here (Grand Rapids) after the plumber leaves.
[HTC Sensation] Arcadia310:
Has anyone in socal gotten one yet?
[HTC Sensation] k87:
Thanks man. Just one last question..say I pay the full price of the cell phone and buy it form walmart..I wont have to pay for any activation fee or anything other than just the phones full price, right?

haha yeah I guess not everybody knows about it!

Thanks man I might just go ahead and pick it up.
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
just picked up mines in Kissimmmee Florida !
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Yesterday, I spoke with a mobile rep at a Secaucus, NJ Walmart, who informed me that they have the phone in stock and available for sale immediately. When I got to the store, they absolutely refused to sell it to me, stating that the release date is the 12th and they can't sell it until then. I ended up getting the manager involved, who stated that they don't even have them in stock, and wouldn't be able to sell it until the 12th even if they did. I quoted what the rep told me, but she was gone for the day, and the manager insisted that she misinformed me. I even showed him the Tmonews report, stating thet Walmart is selling the phone early. Nada.

Another user on the T-Mobile forum went to the same store later, and met the same results. Although the sales clerk that he spoke with told him that the phones are in stock, the clerk mentioned that they got a call from T-Mobile, instructing them not to sell the phone until the 12th.
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
Just $600 plus tax.
[HTC Sensation] Gamesoul Master:
Yeah, if you buy the phone outright, you don't have to pay any fees or anything else from T-Mobile. Just the cost of the phone itself.
[HTC Sensation] NWPhotog:
I thought the father's day sale was for new lines only not upgrades?
[HTC Sensation] Arcadia310:
Can anyone in socal confirm the store they got theirs at?
[HTC Sensation] digiholic:
Not sure if you read my posts about running into the T-Mobile rep twice in my town... but some of them are on "lockdown" basically. Could just be bad luck in one area that has an ambitious "phone blocking" rep. I tried to show that rep the same TMOnews receipt... she just did not care.

I think she was also pissed that I had turned on one of the phones earlier to check the security and took a pic of it.

Call around. I called the next town over and the chick told me "yes I have them" and "yes I will sell them". Took 5 minutes.

-Edit-

Remember this was after I was blocked at two other stores. It's a crap shoot.
[HTC Sensation] aw1974:
FINALLY!!!! Just called the Saline store and they confirmed they have 3 in stock. Will be picking one up at lunch.
[HTC Sensation] staulkor:
I had the same problem! My sister is the main account holder (lives hours away) even though I am an authorized user. One walmart wouldnt let me give them her information. I even had T-Mobile on the phone saying I am eligible for an upgrade and I am an authorized user. The manager had to step in and said that it is walmart policy that the primary and only the primary can do anything. The rep at T-Mobile on the phone agreed this was stupid, lol.

I went to another walmart cross town and the guy was cool enough to understand the situation and let me call my sister and get her information. Walked out with a sensation in about 20 minutes.

Dont give up! Call all the walmarts you are willing to drive to and talk to the person who does the cell phones on the phone and explain the situation and maybe they will be understanding. Their policy is stupid.

The problem is they have to look up the primary to find you. Once they find you, I am not sure if it even shows you are authorized to modify the account.
[HTC Sensation] droidic:
If anyone in the Baltimore area was able to get one please reply with location or pm me
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
Like i posted earlier, just picked up mines.. now i just realized something.. will it bee att friendly? just in case
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
will not work on att 3g/4g.... but that merger is a loooooong way away there will be a quad core phone by the time that thing happens IF it happens at all :D
[HTC Sensation] cmylxgo:
Found a store 2 hours away in MI that has them. Lansing MI guys are in luck.

409 N Marketplace Blvd

Lansing, MI 48917

Phone: (517) 622-1431

3 on hand as of 11am EST 6/9/2011
[HTC Sensation] DeezNotes:
I went to the Ellicott City Walmart yesterday afternoon and the 2 reps there had no idea what I was talking about. I would go to the one on route 40 towards the city, but I refuse to go in there. Ever.
[HTC Sensation] bigbeerdrinker:
Droidic...I called about 7 Walmarts in the Baltimore area yesterday and of those Walmarts that even sell Tmobile phones I only found one store that had any in stock but they said they couldn't sell them until the 12th
[HTC Sensation] Arcadia310:
For those who got Sensations already, did you call ahead of time or just walk into the store and get lucky? I'm thinking the employees won't know what I'm talking about if I inquire about the Sensation. Did you have to explain that other stores are already selling them?
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
I called asked for the "mobile phone" department and the sales people there knew what I was talking about...
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
I work in the Electronics/Connections Center at Walmart here in knoxville, so I was the one who put them in the case when they came in. I immediately put my name on one until we were able to sell them lol
[HTC Sensation] Gamesoul Master:
It comes down to how knowledgable the Connection Center associates and their T-Mobile reps are. In my store for instance, I received the phones with no notification of a release date, and even my rep said we could sell them. And my rep only had said anything because I specifically called and asked him about it (knowing that the release date was supposed to be next week beforehand).

Now imagine all the stores with associates that faced this same kind of situation, except they *didn't* know the release date (which, in Walmart, it's common to find associates who wouldn't know that kind of thing), and they didn't bother to ask their reps. And since the system is allowing sales of the phone to go through, there's simply nothing to stop these people from selling them.

The short answer to your question... people are doing both, and it doesn't really matter anyway. Because many stores simply think it's another new phone that they can sell right away. Especially since many of the phones we get, we don't get them until after release, so many associates don't even think anything of it.
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
I called and they had just received their shipment. No issues at all with selling it early.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
What's your off contract price?
[HTC Sensation] jankyboy:
I just walked in, asked, and was out with one in about 10 minutes... the guy behing the counter said he sold one about an hour earlier. If they had a policy to hold them until the 12th, no one told him :)
[HTC Sensation] Arcadia310:
Thanks for the help. I called a few stores around 7:30AM, which is probably too early, but some of them said they didn't even have the phone yet. I don't even think they checked. I'm going to call after class around 11AM and hopefully there will be more knowledgable people in.
[HTC Sensation] nunyabiz:
I walked in, the guy behind the counter had no idea what I was talking about. They didnt have one on display, but I could see it through the glass door underneath and pointed it out to him. Upgraded my line and I was out the door in 10 minutes. If I hadnt pointed it out, dont know what would have happened, so I think going there is best. they are Usually willing to go the extra mile and physically look when the customer is standing in front of them rather than on the phone when they just want to hang up.
[HTC Sensation] jankyboy:
This... definitely ask. No visibile indication they had any in stock when I hit my local store.
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
there are already guys in my city on craigslist trying to sell htc sensations for $700 LMBO
[HTC Sensation] Gamesoul Master:
$600 plus tax. Same as everybody else I assume.

Edit: Not used to posting on a forum where it updates so fast that by the time I reply, there are a half dozen posts between mine and the one I'm replying to... lol.
[HTC Sensation] azsl1326:
Same in Phoenix!
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
i called ahead and he told me straight out yup we have 4, come get it
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
LOL it's funny to me! I guess some people think they are ahead of the game when they truly are not LOL
[HTC Sensation] kpjimmy:
I found a store in San Antonio TX that has about 5 headsets since 10am this morning.

Being an existing member of tmo I called up and asked if my plan can be grandfathered. I was told yes, but the dataplan has changed and that would be required to be changed when I upgrade the phone. I currently have the 24.99 unlimited data with 300 txt msgs and the closest upgrade is 30bux a month with no text msgs and a cap.

So basically I can keep my mins the same, need to switch to a new data plan with a cap (which sucks hockeypucks) and my bill will go up 10/mo because of the new data plan and I'm out my 300 free txt mgs and this would extend my contract another 2yrs.

The phone looks great and I REALLY want it but I do not want it at an additional cost per month.
[HTC Sensation] Liestman:
Just picked up mine this morning at walmart. Love it.
[HTC Sensation] quahog_convo:
Picked one up from there last night. Loving it :D
[HTC Sensation] absolution8:
anyone got any luck in Long Island NY area?
[HTC Sensation] brian6685:
Walking out of Walmart with it now!

G2X & Nexus S
[HTC Sensation] droidic:
Just got my buddy one Walmart in Carroll island md still had 3 left
[HTC Sensation] ChrisAC84:
Love it, right?
[HTC Sensation] Shagman68:
Considering Tmob said they were selling them for $249 with a $50 mail in rebate, of which they have never honored their last 5 mail in rebates I have applied for over the years. $148 is a great deal.
[HTC Sensation] JWhipple:
Called all 3 Walmarts within 25 miles of my house (Brevard County, FL) - Cocoa, FL, Melbourne, FL and Merritt Island, FL .

Cocoa and Melbourne don't even carry T-Mobile contracted phones anymore, just prepaid... Merritt Island doesn't have them in.
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
works great, thank you !
[HTC Sensation] piimp:
****..the walmart right by my house has them, bt the ***** goes for 600, without tax, :mad: the guy just told me that t-mobile set the price for them and they cant change them, so ill just wait until next wed to pick up from t-mobile since it'll be 549 without tax..

and the way i was excited when he told me he had some in stock!
[HTC Sensation] latteladyla:
Just talked with a tenured CS rep @ TMO. I'm sure everyone knows this but as a reminder: If you buy a phone via an upgrade @ Walmart you have 14 days to return it but you will NO longer have an available upgrade at a TMO corp store. You will have to deal with Walmart to change out the phone. So, if you pick up the Sensation at the great rate of $148.88, but then TMO includes "upgrades" in the 6/18 sale, you will not be able to get it for free! If you upgrade at a corp TMO store on the 15th, & then they include "upgrades" in the sale, you can get the phone "returned" & take advantage of the promo. I realize the Walmart price is really good, but if you plan to pick up a couple, it would be great to get them free. Just sayin'
[HTC Sensation] Spartanjet:
Yes I went to the Walmart @ 2465 Hempstead Turnpike, East Meadow and they had a few in stock when I walked out with one last night. Good luck I'm loving it so far.
[HTC Sensation] BiGMERF:
you do know that if you buy it cash, they have to price match right?
[HTC Sensation] polo045:
Hey guys, walmart has the phone for 148.88 as we speak. Tmobile won't sell the phone till the 15th, no exceptions. I must say though that you can't tell your using a 4.3 inch screen. It's very sleek. Good luck guys.
[HTC Sensation] kgbkny:
Someone on the T-Mobile forum posted that they bought one at the Walmart in East Meadow.
[HTC Sensation] polo045:
The sensation won't be included in the free phone batch, trust me.