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[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ pathetic. Are you even reading the stuff you posted or the stuff I posted. icloud is pawning SKYDRIVE. in your links they mention using 5 different apps, icloud does it all. They mention, zune, zune pass, Hotmail, windows live, windows live mesh. They used all that to compare to icloud.

Be serious, I said icloud is what skydrive should be. Fanboy my ass. Skydrive looks pathetic compared to icloud.

Then you keep mentioning price, in my link its clearly a free version. Which also explains the traffic and storage, which you and others obviously ignored.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rmcgraw:
No mp3 streaming on SkyDrive...:(
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
What's wrong with that? With the exception of Zune, it's all Windows Live. There are lots of problems with the service(s) including ugly UI, poor or non-existing third-party app development and so on, but in terms of functionality it's sort of unmatched. Sort of an Android of cloud services.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
thankfully someone else said that...its like wut?

it's been windows live for a few YEARS now not just some idiosyncratic spur of the moment thing with an i attached. This is skydrive and its always been skydrive and users have easily been doing that on skydrive for a bit now

does vet even know what's going on anymore...I wonder...
[Windows Phone 7 General] arkavat:
For the sake of this discussion or rather finish it without getting too personal... would you please list the reasons why iCloud is better then Skydrive. Please try to put it in technical terms and not just that it "feels complete" or "just works".

Others who feel skydrive is better, list your reasons as well.

Let other users read these lists and arrive at their own conclusion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
But does it really matter? Only to the highly technical do the nuances matter. They both pretty much allow you to work in the cloud and go about it in a different way. Because, let us face it, the average person is going to use it to store music/pictures/documents for backups, remote retrieval, and sharing. And both services do that.

So from that standpoint, looking at what iOS 5 offers to everyone is nice and needed, but does not separate it from the market.

And even if Apple has nto done anything revolutionary in recent times, it does not stop them from claiming to. This time, they did not even try to spin it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
While I don't think iCloud is anything special, I will give it a win over SkyDrive for two main reasons

1. Phone backup - There was MyPhone for WM, but there is no equivalent in SkyDrive for WP7

2. API - With an API, developers could use it to save state of their applications to the SkyDrive (like apple does with documents). If I delete an app and reinstall it, it'd be REALLY nice if it could retrieve the data.

That said, I have no doubt that these will be coming to SkyDrive (or another service available to us) in the future.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ to continue

Music streaming

Elimination of the PC requirement

App backup

Complete settings and phone backup

No need to save what you are working on

No need to download, its a option

No, skydrive HASNT been doing this for years, as you can not do all of this on skydrive.

That's just a few, not to mention devs can do more. Its a one stop shop.

Kudos to Microsoft for not allowing FB integration. As this would be a total pawning.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
And on the other hand there are things Windows Live does that iCloud doesn't.

With regard to APIs, I fully agree that Apple seems to offer a great service here (although I don't know any details on how this works), but you can use Skydrive in third-party apps via WebDAV or http, although that's not too easy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] phoneguy 4567:
In the end it doesn't matter who had what feature first, if no one knows or cares about the OS that had the feature first. If you are an IPhone user all you see and care about is that Apple has given you additional functionality, within their ecosystem.

MS has this strange mentality of if we build it they will come. If you don't advertise your products or services to the general population then people will not come to that product or service.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I think that MS really has a big problem with virtually anything that's free or cheap. They know the cloud is important, and spend billions on building it, but then come to a point of packaging and pushing it and stall. It's not as weird as it seems actually. They build it to have an option, but they are also reluctant to do the last push because it doesn't bring them lots of money. More SkyDrive users means more datacentre expenses and barely any revenue.

Obviously, by not pushing things they teach others and give them time, but maybe Microsoft I just too self-confident, I don't know.
[Windows Phone 7 General] phoneguy 4567:
The last really big advertising push I remember MS doing was for Windows 95. Windows 95 was a huge success although it wasn't the first at anything as far as I remember. Similarly iCloud & the other announcements are copying other devices & services & they will be a big success IMO.

WP7 should be a huge success but it's not in part because MS is not pushing it like they should. It's almost as if MS thinks it's not ready, & doesn't want this to be peoples first impression of the platform :(.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
you mean Microsoft must charge the users as apple will for icloud?????
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
icloud is not UP and RUNNING and u are so proud of it.... your kind of ppl are making apple share holder laugh to there banks... and just to let you know MICROSOFT as well invested $150 million in apple in 1997 and it was worth $4.5 Billion in 2010.....

Edit: and what will happen when yolu do not have data connection????? you will have a china made paper waight right...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
Its free with iOS 5.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Some people just choose not to read, or understand. Or they can't.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arkavat:
So vetvito gave us a list. If you do not agree and think skydrive is better.. give us a list.

The discussion in this thread has dragged too long even when we are going nowhere with this discussion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
first its free and few months later its USD$25/year, ya its cheaper then the mobile me apple was selling to D&%# ppl.....

with apple nothing is free as the followers are DU%#...
[Windows Phone 7 General] 937dytboi:
I really dont care, as long as WP7 is growing and innovating. thats all that matters, never liked apple probably never will. I only give the OS props on one thing, a smooth running and responsive. Besides that you can keep it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Prove it, seriously prove it
[Windows Phone 7 General] paperclips:
I doubt he will since what he said was total bs...
[Windows Phone 7 General] munkeyphyst:
cite your source or retract your FUD
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
It looks like this guy don't like to read and love to BS...LMAO...

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

I think what he means is the Scan and Match or (itunes match) features...not the icloud...he keep thinking he is talking bout icloud when he is drunk...lol

@truffle1234...you're a joker,don't you???lol...
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Anyway,back to the topic,seriously I'm F**king damn worry about apple WWDC...Guys compare this two sites...

Microsoft windows phone 7 official site(mango update)

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/whats-next.aspx

Apple iOS 5 official website

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/

The comparison just makes me feel that Apple is more aggressive than Microsoft...both are coming this fall...However,apple just make iOS5 huge and more promising...with all the detailed descriptions and videos...they even add in the NOTIFY ME function...
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
The big features:

iCloud

iMessage

Integrated Twitter

Notification Center

From an android standpoint none of these things are going to separate iOS 5 from the android offering. Whatsapp is just a better solution to any single platform chat program from a mass appeal standpoint. I have not seen an official announcement from Whatsapp about making a WP7 client, but they have one for Symbian so I cannot see why not for WP7 mango.

Android already had the Notification center. WP7 does not and this is the only separator.

To me it all comes down to iOS UI. The less of a gap in features, the more important the UI becomes. And Widgets/Live Tiles beat iOS grid of icons really badly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
youre right about this. in fact, ive read some comments and its seems that some iphone users are somehow getting tired of iphones app centric ui making it cluttered with never ending apps. there are also people saying that making a simple call in iphone is complicated, the lack of speed dial capability as well as the capability of declining a call from the lock screen (not sure its just what ive read from comments coming from iphone users). a user also mentioned improvemnts should be made on iphones folders in terms of having an option to change its color to easily identify and distinguish one from another.customization options on icons and folders some say. another asked as to what happened to html5 on safari in which is one of the highlights during the announcement of ios4.

iphone users also stated their sentiments here regarding features that they need to be in ios.

yet, i still believe that people will still buy iphones mainly because of its popularity,because its whats "IN" not because it has features "that works" or not.probably only a few look into this stuff but not all.

just my opinion.:p
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ I think we all can agree to that whole thing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
He can't... he has been talking feces all over the forums, just ignore his fanboyism ramblings.
[Windows Phone 7 General] xflier:
I wish a phone with Apple's hardware + mango + Android's Marketplace. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Lol,are you serious??

I wish I have a phone with apple's marketing,apple app store and APIs,webOS's synergy integration and multitasking,android's openess& freedom,galaxy s2's hardware....erm...WP7???nah...maybe a little space will left to its animation and transition...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Nakazul:
Well, my puny thought are.

Icloud vs Skydrive = iCloud winner... so far. But MS hasen't reveald all cards yet.

iOS innovation vs WP7 = WP7 winns. It's a no brainer.

WP7 marketing vs iPhone= iPhone winns

WP7 haven't been really officially released yet. Seems like there holding of the big push so far, and lurking in the back and waiting to strike. Here in EU we can buy WP7 phones, yea. Is it officiall? No.

Here in Sweden MS standpoint and strategy is obvius. With current state of WP7 they have spent time developing with the companys, to settle in, take notes, esucate and make companys generally understand wp7 and use it. They only released WP7 phones to the public to have us who love MS products to have the options and feeling of being first. So most users in Sweden are only people who are gadget freaks.

MS Sweden have said that when Mango arrives, they will go in full attack here.

Hopfully MS have learnd the Apple ways of marketing and all we will se is a huge explosion. So to me, the iOS 5 update prolly made everybody at Redmont take a short break in there hard work and celibrate with champagne.

In the order how every OS came out, its more innovating, and WP7 is the next way how we like to use our phones. A friend of me using android, and another being apple fan is talking that there phone can do the same things and that. But the big point there missing and what is MS way in for real in the Mobile world. Is its way how it works and intergrates. It thruly is a phone to save us from phones and i give MS the long run win because, its newer and that is always, no matter if you feel your current OS can do more, new innovation from MS gives us somthing new, a new way to use our today closest friend.

Now, if i am correct in my belive that calling WP7 un-officiall for us regular users, there is probebly somthing big happening. All they gona need after mango release is a clear, hard marketing campaign to get regular folks in. In most weallthy countrys, were pretty hesitating to new stuff. But when the ice breaks, its a boom that happens. iOS boomed here in Sweden, and Android boomed even larger (Android is biggest here today)

So final word, i took a breath of fresch air in happyness by iOS5 announcment. But it wasnt a supprice. iOS is getting old fast now, and while Android is still enjoying a fresch nice forming atm. There is only so far you can take any plattform without starting from scratch. So...MS, when Mango commes, marketing, marketing, marketing, lie, steal kill with marketing and its gonna be a intressting future.

Again, just my thought on what i know and heard. MS blogg is like any company, restricting what they say, but when they say it ..

they mean it.

Written on my WP7 using no app.

"Originally Posted by MrAdelphi02

How come every microsoft employee... ...is terrible at playing Fruit Ninja"
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
Personally I'm really worried about the release updates of IOS 5 and Mango, android is doing well, and hey its open source unlike the two above. Its all about who comes first. The way I see it, the mass public doesn't pay attention to other phones, its whatevers popular they seem to think of first, in this case the iPhone. And if the IOS update comes first, all the ifags will be bragging about their new camera app with swipes to left and right, and their new notification toasts that appears at the top and disappears in seconds, when really this new innovation came first on a windows phone.

But with nokias partnership, I really hope that wp7 will be popular as IOS someday soon. I mean really you get a new iPhone but the looks of its os is stuck in 2007. But the real problem with Microsoft is advertising and market share, hopefully that will change as well when wp7 Nokia phones becomes available.

Just saying my opinion, correct me if I got wrong facts and hey, I'm only human, I make mistakes, we all do. But Apple went too far plagiarizing wp7s camera app and notification toast.
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
Just a sidenote, if Microsoft made Zune pass available to all countries then we would already have music streaming. I mean yeah, if you want a huge library of music you can get it on Zune pass, from what I know from icloud is that it only lets you stream your own music from your cloud storage. Skydrive is all about windows live - pictures, documents, and other shenanigans you want to put in, but music is with Zune. I know it costs you a bit of money but it is really worth it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Nakazul:
Im from Sweden and we haven't got a carrier controlled market. Meaning when MS hit the send update, we get it straight away. So while i understand your point, its the carriers holding back for you. But here, we get it as som EU is seeing the patch :-D

I also belive that with Mango MS have learned enough on there update process to make it smoother and give it all if folks still miss the older updates. As i said before. I belive MS will get serious when Mango rolls out.

But that's my thoughts, and i like being posetive :-D Also, MS is showing evereday that goes by now that the ill old rumors shall be erradicated. Since the release of WP7, MS have changed ALOT. And there not done, not on there webb pages that have become so mych better, live services, Windows etc. There reconstructing them self on all there software and services. So thats why im posetive about a great future. There learning, listening and trying really hard to get closer to even the "little" guy.

Any Windows 7 user that uses most of the new Live services and other MS products should see that there is a lot happening for all MS users.

So, its just a word of comfort to you from a fellow XDA member. Also, i intervjuved the head of MS mobile department for Scandinavia, wich is sited here in Sweden. So MS rebuilding it self completly i can confirm. And that at least around here, we will see a serious push on marketing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
long story short microsoft got back on its feet when steve ballmer took over xD but seriously, windows 7, windows phone 7, and even windows 8 is a huge leap from windows vista and windows mobile -.-
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
just my thoughts. WP7 still lack the bragging rights (yet it has in it some innovations and unique features but it still lack something)and it could be why MS is not marketing it hard as Apple does with its iPhone. im guessing when mango comes coupled with new devices that carries mango (especially nokia and the rest of the oems), im sure all hell will break lose. it could be that MS is saving all marketing stuff, promotions upon mango's release. When mango hits our phones as well as the stores itll be the start of the real marketing battle for wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JC_Agga:
That reminds me of windows phone 7 commercial when ppl were waiting in line for coffee!
[Windows Phone 7 General] JC_Agga:
I thought Android is the #1 selling platform in the world? Well good thing you like ios5. Just be your self, don't listen to what other people say regarding your likings!
[Windows Phone 7 General] VizagDude:
My thoughts on a Game Changing WP7 device

I think just Mango will not change much the future of WP7. It needs to have to be combined with a Solid device as well.

I personally feel that Nokia (or even HTC) should come up with a device at a minimum with the following specs sporting WP7 Mango:

4" (min) screen with AMOLED or SLCD at at a min.

8 MP camera with front facing camera as well.

720P HD recording mode

HDMI out

16GB and 32GB models (I would prefer built-in rather than storage card)

Tegra 2 dual core comparable processor

1800 Megahertz battery

Quad band 3G or 4G (for US that can be used both on T-Mo and ATT)

The device should come out on all carriers at once

Decent looking industrial design (nothing fancy, frankly I did not like the Nokia models that were shown, too flashy for me).

For this device, I would pay $800 USD outright with out a contract for me and my wife.
[Off-topic] ctraywick1:
Dear Fast Food Industry,

Why don't fast food restaurants change their prices to actually reflect the advertised price? For instance I just came back from taco bell and ordered a 5 buck box.. Why can't they change the price to 4.89 so it comes out to 5$ after tax? Or mcdonalds change their dollar menu prices to 89¢.. it would make life so much easier rrather thhan having to dig around my car looking for spare change

* I'm just sayin......
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
LMAO :D

Because that would be too nice and too cheap.

On another note i have a msg for fast food places as well:

Dear fast food places that have chicken nuggets:

If im ordering via drive through and you ask what kinda sauce i want, can you please give me the sauce so i dont find out when i get out of the parking lot to find no sauce!!!! :mad: IF YOUR NOT GOING TO GIVE ME SAUCE DONT ASK WHAT KIND I WANT!!! :mad:

LOL
[Off-topic] ctraywick1:
On a saucy note as well...

Dear fast food industry,

Please stop charging me 51 cents for sauce... Just because I didn't order nuggets doesn't mean my burger wouldn't taste awesome with a little bbq as well please and thank you

* I'm just sayin......
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
LMAO

While on sauces still:

Dear Fast Food places,

Stop BEING SO STINGY POS'S with your ketchup and napkins :mad:
[Off-topic] :
You guys are hilarious.

Dear fast food industry: Can you actually do your job? I'm tired of dealing with unprepared people that don't get the order right! If I ask for a Double Cheese burger and fries I don't want to have to look in the bag and hold up traffic just because I want to make sure I actually have the crap I ordered, it's not hard to fill up the bag! :mad:

-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
[Off-topic] djbacon06:
Dear fast food industry:

can you please stop making your food look so beautiful and delicious in TV commercials? Every time I see a commercial for your new product I am utterly disappointed when I order it. Real life is so disheartening.
[Off-topic] ctraywick1:
Sad but true :(

* I'm just sayin......
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
LMAO, if they actually advertised a smooshed small sandwich less people would not be pleased about what they see on tv lol :eek:
[Off-topic] ctraywick1:
True but i'd rather see my smushed up angry whoppper on tv than some extremely plump looking airbrushed piece of art looking burger and be dissappointed when I get home...

On that note..

Dear fast food industry,

Thank you to the honest people in your business like dominos

* I'm just sayin......
[Off-topic] event2000:
Iam in Shanghai right now, big mac menu is 17,50RMB at lunchtime, 2,8 dollar :)
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Ads vs Reality:

Shameful isn't it?
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Well thank you everyone. Now I have a great urge to go to McDonald's.
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
LMAO :D

@DirkGently

Where the hell did u find that??? LMAO :D
[Off-topic] ctraywick1:
Lol yea.. even though those are still pretty decent looking realitys for some of them

* Thank you. That is all.. I'm just sayin......
[Off-topic] SteveG12543:
That still makes me hungry lol.... Time to dig through the fridge lol.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.0.3.
[Off-topic] Dirk:
Due to the appalling lack of variety in the staff canteen i've had far too many Burger King meals recently. It's the healthy food that'll kill you though.. coughcoughbeansproutscoughcough!

Time to switch to KFC! :D
[Off-topic] il buono:
Sure does lol. That sausage mcmuffin sure looks tempting
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
The taco bell one is the most accurate lol

The never fill your taco with that much beef!! :mad:
[Off-topic] il buono:
Exactly! I got so fed up with them I stopped going there. The one on Wetmore/1st Ave is one of the worst ones in Tucson
[Off-topic] Dirk:
It's not only the fast food companies that deceive us:

:D
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
Sadly thats the closest one to my apt :(

I guess i could switch to Speedway & Campbell

The one on tanque verde and grant is actually pretty good, but i noticed all taco bells stop putting a lot of stuff in my tacos :( :mad:
[Off-topic] il buono:
LOL so true man! :D (they're more deceptive than the fast food companies)
[Off-topic] Dirk:
..and don't even get me started on Bras. One minute the girl you went home with is Halle Berry and the next your looking at an Amazonian tribeswoman and thinking wtf happened there! :p
[Off-topic] RinZo:
I think fast food does that to them. It's a vicious cycle.
[Off-topic] Dirk:
I think it's the alcohol wearing off :D
[Off-topic] djbacon06:
There's a joke in there somewhere...
[Off-topic] :
I think it doesn't take that much work to find out where that joke is ;)

-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
[Off-topic] brilldoctor:
Are motoway fast food places as bad in the us as the uk ($8 for a double cheese burger, chips and a small dring (aren't us small drinks larger than uk ones)

Then again I ordered that form somewhere and got 4 bags of chips and a large drink for the standard price
[Off-topic] djbacon06:
For those who are unaware, chips = fries :)

And yeah, that sounds about right, after tax. Actually maybe just slightly cheaper, more like $6.50 for something comparable. And of course our small drinks are larger than your small drinks... everything related to food in America is larger than everywhere else.
[Nexus One Accessories] wingnutLP:
As title really, can anyone confirm if the Klispch X10i s4i or s5i microphones work with the Nexus one? I have seen conflicting reports and one that said it did at first and then stopped :(

I really want a pair but need to be sure at least the mic works even if other functions dont.

Thanks :)