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[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digiblur:
If you have a device that only pulls .8 amps and you hook it up to a 2 amp charger....guess how many amps it is going to pull? You guessed .8 amps. Woohoo!

Kinda like how your circuit for your bedroom is a 20 amp circuit. Does you alarm clock pull 20 amps now?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insanity213:
I use the nook power brick with a standard microusb cable - like the stock epic one or a crackberry cable. The nook cable is different, but the USB port on the charger itself is standard.

And yes, the nook won't charge off of a PC. PC USB ports only deliver 500mA and the nook wants more.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Sweet. This would be great. My 3g is not 190k. It just says DEATH in a speed check. Lol.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
lol, I guess I should be thankful. :p
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
I have not heard anything more than what you posted ... but it does sound good for us (eventually) ;)
[Epic 4G General] cberrios:
I hope it comes true and quickly... The market is moving really fast right now and Sprint is starting to feel like is going to fall behind again...
[Epic 4G General] Marlinsfan88:
i agree. releasing 4G before anyone was a great move and increased their revenue, regardless of the loss it reported from 2010(less of a loss than 2007-2009 for sure) but now that ATT, and big red have released LTE, sprint is already behind, atleast to those who know the difference in the types of 4g anyway. this will deff be a great step in the right direction for the company. now if only they would release a SGS2 WITH a keyboard ill be set lol oh well, maybe when SGS3 comes out =P ill probably still have my epic by then anyway hahahahaha
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
I hear you on the "keyboard" feature ... the AWESOME Screen Display and Physical Keyboard are what made me get the EPIC instead of EVO .... hopefully SGS3 !!! ;)
[Epic 4G General] Marlinsfan88:
amen to that Tex. same reason i got this phone too.
[Epic 4G General] AngelosDracul:
Ohhhh man, this perks me up! I, too, got the epic after many months of research (and seeing every one of my friends who own Evo's replacing them every two or three months due to cracked/broken screens). I really hate the Evo for it's weight, but hate it even more because of its lack of keyboard.

Now back on topic. When I got my phone, I did the research on the networks, and was REALLY bummed that Verizon has the better speeds and coverage, whereas a few years ago, it was the opposite. *sigh*

I would really like to see this happen fast. My coverage where I live is bad, and we only have 3G right now (which I cannot complain about, but do when it does not work... which means A LOT of complaining).

Everything else about this awesome phone? AMAZING. Glad I chose it instead of the others. Just sayin.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I would like the technical controversy of whether WiMax handsets could ever be easily upgraded to support LTE laid to rest, yea or nay. I suspect nay, and since they expect 2 year or less upgrades for users, maybe it's a non-issue.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
There is a chance they could be but, it is slim because the only lte band our phones could support is 2500mhz from Clear so it wouldn't improve coverage much (Vison will because of more towers but it will still be spotty) but speed could go up a bit.

I think it would be pointless though. They would be better off uncapping the Wimax speeds (which would make them more or less the same speeds as LTE ~ up to 40mbps). I would say most likely they keep the wimax caps (maybe ease up a little on the upload cap) and leave the phones with Wimax.
[Epic 4G General] Zor Omega:
I was happy that Sprint made the first move with 4G. WiMax was already established in many markets, so it made sense for them to use that to be the first ones to market with 4G. And to be honest WiMax gets good and consistant speeds with relatively low latency (average 5-7 down and 1-1.5 up with around 70-80 ms latency), its just that once you enter a building or even a car for that matter the signal penetration drops off sharply. Thats that 2500 Mhz spectrum for ya. BUt hopefully this deal with light squared will accelerate thier LTE deployment. It would be nice to have all the major carriers on one universal 4G standard that way you could roam anywhere you go. I just hope sprint can stay in the game. This AT&T/T-mobile merger is going to put the hurt on the ol now network.
[Epic 4G General] mcdeeandhisepic:
maybe......someday

expect the worst hope for the best that way you dont get your feels hurt lol

iam happy now lol
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
bump

hoping for a response from whosdaman or someone else who works for sprint
[Epic 4G General] LunaticWolf:
My bro works at Sams club in the phone department, and the Sprint Rep that handles distributing phones to all stores in the valley told him that they are not deploying out any more 4G as they are in talks to use LTE like verizon on their network.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
WIMAX phones CAN convert to LTE....as can the currently deployed WIMAX equipment with no additional hardware...it's basically a software update. Sprint will be converting their 800MHz frequencies from IDEN to CDMA and will use LTE across all frequencies and incorporate aggregation which is where multiple frequencies are used simultaneously thereby increasing total frequency width and speed.

This thread should be deleted, while continuing on with this one...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1015442
[Epic 4G General] nebrando:
That is the same reason I got the Epic as well, but I now very rarely use the hardware keyboard. I'm excited for the new SGSII, but to each his own I guess
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Lol, well what do you want me to say? haha...I've already talked about this previously.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
"Cellular Frequency Aggregation: Using multiple Cellular Radio Frequencies in parallel to increase link speed" Think of it like Link aggregation whereas using multiple Ethernet network cables/ports in parallel to increase overall link speed......Using 3 100Mb ethernet ports at the same time to have an effective 300Mb total connection. This is only possible if both the sending computer AND receiving computer support the capability. NVIDIA motherboards with dual 1GB ethernet ports can perform this using their driver.

REPOST......

From sprint website

Current vs. New cell site

Today, Sprint uses separate equipment to deploy services on 800 MHz spectrum, 1.9 GHz spectrum and, through its relationship with Clearwire, 2.5 GHz spectrum. Under the terms of the new contracts, Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson and Samsung will install new network equipment and software that brings together multiple spectrum bands, or airwaves, on a single, multi-mode base station.

Comparison between today's base stations and Network Vision base stations

With Network Vision, Sprint will make substantial changes to the cell sites that power its wireless network. The top image shows Sprint’s existing base stations, which require single, refrigerator-sized cabinets for each technology. Large black coaxial cables must run from each cabinet to the top of the cell tower, which has an inherent loss of signal. The Network Vision multi-mode base station will require less space. Other advantages will include the ability for Sprint to use spectrum bands on multiple technologies, replacing coaxial cables with fiber that is not affected by signal loss and improved remote radio heads that replace existing less efficient radios.

Multi-mode technology

The implementation of multi-mode technology throughout the Sprint network will:

• Enhance service

• Create network flexibility

• Reduce operating costs

• Improve environmental sustainability

______________________________

Other Rumors alluded to by sprint

Berge Ayvazian, Senior Consultant, Heavy Reading

“This is a very bold move. Sprint was first with an all-digital wireless network; the first to upgrade to EVDO; and more recently, the first to broadly offer 4G services. Sprint is once again first to deploy a common converged mobile network that will strengthen its 3G services; enhance its 4G technology options; and continue delivering the industry’s leading push-to-talk offering.”

Steve Elfman, Sprint president of Network Operations and Wholesale

“We’re seeing an increasing need from our push-to-talk customers for high-speed data capabilities. Marrying the industry’s only sub-second PTT call set-up with broadband data directly supports our customers’ needs and creates an unmatched offering in the market. Additionally, we fully expect a competitively priced lineup of rugged handsets and smartphones on the CDMA network.”
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Looks like sprint will be raising the cap on the upload tommorow. I guess they read my post. :p

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/09/sprint-said-to-raise-4g-upload-cap-to-1-5-mbps-june-10th/
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
They need to just uncap it already. I mean the phones mostly consume information......what's the deal on killing upload speed. Makes no sense. Their network is full speed both ways. It's not like there is really that much info that the phones can upload.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I still think 1 Mbps is fast enough for me. I wouldn't mind the higher limit, but it really makes no noticable difference.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
This is why you should stay with Sprint. Look at the coverage map after Network Vision. (It is the yellow one.)

The blue is the Nextel coverage, but the yellow will be 1X Advance coverage for Sprint. Look at the entire West. It is nearly fully covered.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
That's an interesting map. It looks to be the same as the map for roaming and home coverage sprint displays on its site.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yes, thank you for getting the image for us. I was at work so I couldn't get it.
[Epic 4G General] AngelosDracul:
AWESOME maps, guys. REALLY gets me hyped for the next few years. Even though that is a PTT map, it makes me happy to see how much devotion Sprint has (and always had) towards their customers. I knew there was a reason (other than the Epic) that I came back!
[Epic 4G General] boliviano3:
Sprint to deploy 4G LTE network with LightSquared

Looks like Sprint is getting ready to go LTE.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/17/sprint-to-deploy-4g-lte-network-with-lightsquared/
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Will add to OP
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I do not see any chance that current wimax equipment will work with LTE...the equipment that can be converted via firmware update is on the tower end...not the handset end..as far as handsets go only one of the clear usb modem can be upgraded with only firmware..
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Sprint has their work cut out for them I see tons of coverage around my area that has zero CDMA coverage and zero Nextel coverage. That's a bunch of towers...but I will believe it when I see it.
[Epic 4G General] Zor Omega:
I saw this earlier today. Wow! A 15 year commitment. That says that Sprint is pretty serious about LTE. This makes me feel better about the direction that Sprint is headed in. Now they have to avoid getting swallowed by big RED once the ATT/Tmobile merger completes!
[Epic 4G General] mi7chy:
Still wouldn't do me any good as I get weak/no 4G coverage. On the other hand, in the same spot Verizon Thunderbolt clocks in at 16983kbps/5645kbps. Nice try Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] MikeyLee:
We already get charged $10 more per month for "premium data" service which is a complete joke. This will be something Sprint will end up tacking on another service charge for us, guarantee it.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Because wimax upload is not very efficient in terms of spectrum and battery usage....hence why in wimax 2 spec the upload is changed to be similar to LTE.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
The fifteen years also probably covers for lte advance, aka 5G
[Epic 4G General] ultra78721:
I spoke to a Senior employee that works for erricson which are contractors for sprint and they do all the cell tower maintenance here in my city (ATX).

Anyways he told me wimax is a different platform from lte and epic 4g chip is not gonna work with the lte.

He also said wimax is going to stay and is not going anywhere,to much money invested in it. Although he added Sprint will have lte in a couple of years.

At least in my city.:)

When I was there he showed me about 5 pallets of 3g hardware there gonna use to expand 3g in areas where there's little signal.

Nice to know Sprint is expanding the 3g coverage at the outskirts of my city :)
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Wish those network guys would come fix the issues in Baton Rouge. It will be one year next month we have been dealing with a broken 3g network here since they pulled us off the leased alltel 3g.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
What sprint needs to do is upgrade their towers to wimax-enhanced (its an updated wimax spec more on par with the current LTE spec)..its a minor upgrade but the performance would increase by a lot!
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
I am planning to move to and buy a condo in Metro DC next year. Funnily (or sadly?), one of my top considerations for a place is the wireless coverage and penetration of the residence. :D
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
You're hardly alone there. When I move I want it in a strong 4G area if possible. I mean, why waste my money on another ISP, right?
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
If you live in an area with a strong 4g coverage, just buy new Motorola Modem for WiMax. it basically is a modem for sprint
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
LightSquared announces 'solution' for GPS issue, says LTE network will roll out on schedule

It looks like lightsquared has vacated the spectrum which interfered with GPS in favor of some other spectrum. They claim the GPS interference is no longer an issue. If it's true we could see 1400/1600mhz lte in 2013.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Has nothing to do with efficiency of the hardware, that's ridiculous to state, LOL.

We've discussed this, Updating the firmware on the CURRENT WiMax hardware is enough to turn it into LTE. It's a software update......not hardware.....no hardware needs changed out. Read the posts on it, they are linked to in this thread.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Ot: have you guys heard about verizarape's new plans? They make att look like a bargain. I look forward to a hoard vzw refugees in the coming months
[Epic 4G General] Phreddo:
That just sounds too good to be true. But one can always hope. However, if that really does happen and they provide an update to enable LTE on all WiMax phones, I'll bet a nickel they either create a verizon-esque tiered data plan or else a premium-premium LTE-4G-Smartphone charge.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
As someone else said this is completely false. I don't know if the guy you were talking to doesn't know a bannanna from an orange or what but sprint has said many times that they were looking into lte and that if they decided to switch they would use their existing equipment for wimax to change over to lte. Sprint prolly won't be charging any more for data than what they are its their motto not too. But that extra $10 a month really speeds up expansion so I wouldn't be complaining if I were you cuz sprint is still way cheaper than att and vzw.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Yes it is ridiculous to state because that is not what I said...Wimax uses OFDMA for upload while LTE uses SC-FDMA..wimax 2 also uses SC-FDMA..its the better tech >.>

The firmware update is on sprints tower end AND on some usb modems..our chipsets are just not capable..its NOT possible...
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
I said.....

"They need to just uncap it already. I mean the phones mostly consume information......what's the deal on killing upload speed. Makes no sense. Their network is full speed both ways. It's not like there is really that much info that the phones can upload."

And you replied.....

"Because wimax upload is not very efficient in terms of spectrum and battery usage....hence why in wimax 2 spec the upload is changed to be similar to LTE."

To which I replied....

"Has nothing to do with efficiency of the hardware, that's ridiculous to state, LOL."

Point Being???? You are insinuating that we have an upload cap because the upload isn't "efficient in terms of spectrum". That has nothing to do with it. The 1GB cap is an arbitrary limit put on ALL of the devices on the Sprint/Clear WiMax services. It has not a damn thing to do with battery life. The limit is on HOME based modems too.

Just because it's not WiMax2 or some other transmission type, doesn't mean it's a gimp. In-fact, before the limiter kicks in, my speeds will jump to almost 2Mb for a split second before it drops down to the limited ~1100Kbps. There is not excuse to not let us have 3Mb up.

As far as the epic not supporting LTE...1, I bet it can, the "MODEM" isn't a modem at all. MODEM is short for MODULATOR DEMODULATOR, which is a basically a digital to analog converter, and vice-versa. The Epic is digital, as is the cellular signal. It's really just making sense of a transmission protocol. The radio isn't using a crystal either, and has about 140MHz of tuning capability.

However, that really isn't a factor though. Sprint isn't going LTE tomorrow, nor next month, and few people really keep their device long enough for that to be a factor. Granted someone will ALWAYS keep a device forever, but there will still be WiMax and EVDO for them to use. Sprint is going to a FULL LTE network over all 3 blocks of their frequencies. The new cell sites as described previously will be easily converted over. The "New Nextels" are CDMA PTT phones. and are supposed to be released in Q3.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Its a ratio of download/upload...if they limit upload they can support more users on the amount of spectrum they deployed. If sprint actually made use of its 2.5ghz spectrum more upload is not an issue, but Sprint has been saving most of their spectrum...

This is not a new concept..notice how in broadbands you always get more download then upload? by limiting upload speeds they can oversell download speeds.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
That's not really a factor. Most of the backbones of the providers are full duplex, even the boxes to the telcos are full BW up and down. DSL is somewhat limited, but nowhere near what they throttle it at. DSL is capable of about 1 up for every 2 down, but if you look at ATT DSL for instance, they limit you to around 12 down and only 1 up. The T and D lines are full speed up and down, but they charge out the ass for them.

WiMax capabilities are about 2 down and just under 1 up. I get up to 13Mb down, yet am throttled to only 1 up. Full access under the tech if one is getting 13 down would be 6 up. Yet we get 1.1, which is bull. Considering what little data could be actually created by our phones for sending, there is no reason we shouldn't be allowed 4 up. It eats up as much as getting 13 down, except that we'll have far less to send via the 4 up, than say streaming HD on the DL side, which can last hours.

Hell, the tech is there for PROPER throttling, there's no reason that we shouldn't be allowed full UP as long as the capacity is there. If the network is busy, throttling everyone to about the same speed is the fair thing to do.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Lol you said penetration... Oops I'm trolling... hopefully like you guys said sprint will keep wimax that they keep expanding it aswell
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I managed to dig this up a howard forums here

You'll notice a certain graphic from this slide show wasn't included on sprint's network vision press release illustrating sprint's lte plans.

Apparently, through new antenna arrays and moving the radio onto the tower instead of on the ground they aim to improve coverage (+5db).

So, if you notice a tower in your area with boxes on it, it could be a vision tower.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
That's pretty nifty. I just wonder how long it will take them to completely switch out all their existing towers with the new stuff.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
So it seems Wimax will continue to have building penetration issues on account of 2.5Ghz frequency, but LTE will not.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Some of it will. Lte will be 850/1900/2500. I think it can be smart to retain the 2500mhz spectrum for lte.

I consider it to be strategic spectrum. Sprint has a ton of it so it will work great for large events (texas state fair/big games) where inbuilding coverage isn't an issue but available spectrum is. This spectrum will insure that fans still have reliable access to wireless data and messaging service even in the most densely occupied areas.

When i was with att, the service rarely worked at large events despite having good signal. When sprint grows to Att's size this stands to be a problem. I think 2500mhz is the easy answer.

Edit: gleaned some more from howard forums

credit: 503ducati
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Sprint will be unveiling a new network strategy update on October 7th. I hope this will clear the smoke on what really is going to happen. Whatever it is, it better come to Tulsa, soon (no, not 3 years from now)
[Epic 4G General] ilostmypistons:
Hesse said Oct7 will be the date it all becomes CLEAR. Hmmm
[Epic 4G General] Robbzilla:
Please let this die. I'm so sick of people *****ing that they pay a whole $10 more for a smartphone.

Go to Verizon where you get cut off after 2GB, or AT&T where they charge you for overages, or both since they cost more than Sprint. Please just go and STFU about the $10 already!

DEAD horse. Mmmmkay?
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
First, I don't care about the $10, but I can see where some people would. It's not really the fact of the $10, it's really more about how they advertise one price, and then tack on extras that you really don't choose. I mean, who is going to get an unlimited data plan and not have a smartphone...seriously?

It's no longer a $10 charge for a 4G capable phone (like it was when I first got my Epic last year), but a $10 charge for any smartphone. Again, I don't care about it, it's still cheaper than Big Red or AT&T. I just think they should stop having it be an add-on and just include it in the advertised price.

Although, with the way Verizon shows their plans and prices, I guess Sprint is maybe just following their lead.
[Epic 4G General] ilostmypistons:
+1 just add the10 bucks in and call it a day no need for a add on
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Look at those frequencies of Clear's LTE. 800mhz band...*drools*
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Wait why?

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
800 Mhz has waaay better building penetration than 1600 or our current, (lol) 2500.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Hehe, you said penetration
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I didn't know John Madden was a Nexus owner...

EDIT: Thanks Overstew
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Nexus S 4G owner. :p
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Good catch. I got excited because I hadn't been able to make a Madden joke in a few years, and I thought this was a good time as that guy used the word 'penetration' more than certain movie studios...
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Has Sprint done any services to the 4G network lately? I don't recall ever seeing the kinds of speeds I have gotten lately
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Funny how news sites are calling this new info when sprint said back a month ago or so that they would have this october 7th event.
[Epic 4G General] scottyd035ntknow:
They must have upgraded the tower near me because my speeds went from typical Sprint garbage 400-500kbps down (at non peak hours, during peak... lol) to close to VZW speeds. Pulled 2mbps down a few weeks ago on the EG22 modem on my Epic.
[Epic 4G General] mookdawg7:
Are you kidding me JC?! I've never pulled down greater than about 3.5, (which is rare anyway). And i've tried all the modems I can....

My typical speeds on 4g are about 1.5 down...I wish they would do some services to the 4g!
[Epic 4G General] scottyd035ntknow:
That is horrific speed, I've gotten faster 3g than 1.5 down a LOT... I guess it is just your location? I know in philly the wimax is pretty fast. Not Verizon's "crap your pants" LTE fast but still fast.

Sent from my boosted Epic 4G. ACS Frozen, Genocide 1.4ghz.