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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
No i was clarifying that it is not iOS-5 notifications when the idea originated from a tweak made by a Jailbreak developer. It's like saying Google picked up Cyanogen to work at Google and implemented his "ideas" (or other developers since Cyanogenmod is a group project now such as Widget filtering). Is that considered the idea of Google? No, the idea is from Cyanogenmod who is now affiliated with a company that had hired them. It may be marketed as their idea, but the "hardcore" fans would know where the idea has originated from.

If you don't like me clarifying other people's post then too bad. What everybody else was saying made it sound like Apple is the cruel enemy that fully invented the revamped notification system. Yes, they did know that their notification system was outdated. But did they have a way to fully approach on resolving their notification system? Not really.. one of the higher staff at Apple must of recognized the jailbreak developer and picked him up to implement that idea to spread it to the masses.

We at XDA know we all have some inner-hate on Apple. But you have to admit that was a clever move on Apple's part of picking up a jailbreak developer onto their team.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsallsubliminal:
I agree it was clever. they realize they have to do things like that to compete with an open source OS that's closing the gap and surpassing.

We got a truce here?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raymond4:
I have a question is it possible to add this in our roms
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsallsubliminal:
We will have to wait for a developer to whip something up similar, it cannot be ported over from a different OS
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
@itsallsubliminal: sure

If a dev picks it up and attempts to clone it over to Android, sure.. why not?

Android is all about options leading to the end-user to determine whether or not they want to use it or not.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Is there a widget with nice looking app updates like iOS 5's lockscreen notifications?

I would just add that to my widget locker to see if I like it. Right now, I actually like being able to pull down my notification bar from widget locker. Keeps my lockscreen uncluttered and pretty with it's alternate wallpaper!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Habbit:
I've always wished the notifications in the Android status bar were grouped by type. It's really not that bad of an idea, and it would make my notifications bar look a lot less retarded when stuff piles up.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KryPTiCk0d3:
This would actually be pretty cool, but it needs some Android style attached to it, the iOS looks like a childrens coloring book in UI design.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
guys cyanogen 7 you can swipe away individual notifications. let's say you have 5 items in your status bar. pull down status bar, pick the middle item, swipe it left or right. it moves off the screen and clears, now left with only 4 notifications.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrick_:
motoblur has had this for quite some time
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnythan:
I swear I had tried this and it didn't work, but I just tried it again and it works.

That's awesome. Thanks.

Next up: Grouping!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
Grouping and being able to view all of them and slide to unlock and open the corresponding app from the lockscreen.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GchildT:
*cough* *cough* "rip-off" *cough* *cough*

This is what they do. They copy an idea, improve it, and make look "Applesque" <- my word. It means pretty...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrick_:
No idea why this post was split in two...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrick_:
Android has ripped off apple plenty, however its long since surpassed ios
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDub:
CyanogenMod has also had this ability for quite some time... you could setup a slide to unlock that drops you into Phone, Messaging, or any application you desire.

Samsungs TouchWiz also has a similar feature, same with Sense UI 3.0.

I think Apple ripped off the Custom Skins and even CyanogenMod more so then it did pure Android. A lot of their new features we have all seen before but not on Vanilla.

-Unlock to a specific application (CM, TWiz, Sense)

-Swipe to clear notification (CM)

-Widgets in the notification bar (TWiz, CM - Yes I realize widgets/toggles are not the same but we all know it was probably inspired by that idea.)

Grouping is a bad idea. I've seen many people mention how the Android notifications get cluttered because we get so many of them sometimes. Now imagine if we wasted screen real estate with grouping headers and weather widgets... you get the idea I'm sure.

Furthermore Android already groups them just not as elegantly. If you have two Texts you don't get two individual Text notifications, you get one that says hey you have two text messages. Why do we need a big header above "2 Unread Text Messages" that says "Messaging"?

And the spinning cube is a nice effect sure, but Androids notification bar does that already just not as fancy looking. Having them pop up in a full screen app is a bad idea as well! If you're playing a game, for example, and you get a text, in Android you hear the sound but are not interrupted in your game, on iOS what if you accidentally click the notification when you were playing your game, you're rushed out of the game and into messaging. Bad design. Google thought this out and notifications not showing up during a full screen application such as a game is by design.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Something very close could be achieved with Tasker, Minimalistic Text Widget and WidgetLocker.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
That gives you one unlock option that you have to set up ahead of time. What Apple has done is this.. Say I have a text message, ESPN score update, and a Whatsapp message.

All three will show up on my lockscreen telling me what the notification says, as well as providing a slider that will unlock the phone and open up the app which is giving that particular notification. So I can immediately go to Whatsapp to message back, or go immediately to ESPN Scorecenter to get more detailed data about the game im following.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDub:
So Widgetlocker... If your sports app has a widget, that app will let you place said widget on your lock screen.

Besides what's so hard about sliding to unlock and then viewing your widget. Keeps the lock screen less cluttered. I know that's not the point but I and others have pointed out you have options to do these things already if you so choose.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
You're not understanding what Apple is doing. You should go watch the keynote and see the demo of it. Those sliders appear ONLY if there is a notification. With widgetlocker I have to define them, and only then I can use the ones I have previously defined. I don't have to do anything with an iOS device. Everything is automated in Apple's method.

Here's a video showing how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtzgaDEtnZ4 It's shown at the beginning.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Like I said, you can do this with Tasker, MTW and WL. Even set it up so it's not visible when you don't have notifications. It takes work, I know, cos I'm working on it.

Obviously it won't be as well rounded as Apple's solution. Just saying, with Android, even me (a non Dev) could possibly churn out something similar. Will keep you posted.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacGuy2006:
Something similar is not always good enough:

Rosie O'Donnell is "something similar" to Keira Knightley, but to the eyes of some of us, they are not the same. :)

There is really no point in arguing who copied who, or if somehow similar functionality can be cobbled together on Android, design be damned.

I was hoping that somehow this design and functionality can be transfered to Android, and be just as elegant as in iOS 5.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Okay, then...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvnatic:
Cartoonish look isn't elegant.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Trying to build this with Tasker and Zoom. It is definitely possible. Using iOS as a base, I have a widget. Bear in mind I only just started.

Text arrives

Edit : alignment is off. Easy to adjust

EDIT: And now ...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cryt:
Android doesn't use Hardware Acceleration yet? Seriously?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
As opposed to Android's sleek look? :confused:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Is this another iOS vs Android thread? Or is this a thread about getting the iOS style notifications on our phones?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
haha yeah android does not use any hardware acceleration, which is a big problem. all these years google should have strived to give users the same smooth experience as iOS. it is coming in Ice Cream Sandwich, but for now its missing. that's why lots of long lists and certain UI elements are "choppy" in android sometimes.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KryPTiCk0d3:
It's however sleek you make it. Because we can change more than just the background image, ooooo welcome to the 80's apple.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
I have a question about the Lock screen notifications. Is there a way to set how much information is displayed in the notification? If not, it kinda defeats the purpose of locking your phone if someone can just wake it and read snippets of your texts and things.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgrimberg:
I like this feature too! It is a great idea to have sliders for just opening an sms that just came in instead of having to unlock the screen first and then go into the notifications bar and then into the sms messages. 1 step instead of 3. A lot simpler and practical. Any developer interested in porting this feature to an Android app? WidgetLocker is a different thing because on iOS5 you can see the messages in the unlock screen and there is a slider for each new message, so you just open the one you want and not the whole inbox.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quis89:
I remember when we were saying this a year ago......
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacGuy2006:
Hey, this looks good :)

Is it functional?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fraspas:
LOL I always crack up seeing this. All these Android fanboys keep saying yeah yeah android apps will improve, better interface, blah blah. It has been over 2 years now and our apps still look like crap. Come on, android is just plain ugly. Accept it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] melvinchng:
we dont need to follow apple... lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrick_:
We have and we did in some ways
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
It should be in a couple more days. I'm just working out the kinks. Right now, the notifications come in fine. I'm trying to work out a way to get the previews for apps that Tasker does not support(gmail, whatsapp), as well as a work around for scrolling which Zoom does not support.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Screenshot update
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Persona+:
Oh nice man it looks beautiful :-)

Do you know if it will play nice with widget locker?

Trust me (-..-) im from the webs
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Yes, that's a screenshot of the widget on my WidgetLocker. The unlock slider itseld is from WidgetLocker. The widget is created using Zoom Widget Designer.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgrimberg:
Can you add a slider for each of the notifications, so that you can just access the message/email without having to unlock the phone and then touch over the message? I mean 1 step instead of 3.

Thank you
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Well, sliders aren't possible (or beyond me, at least). I will be able to go to the app on touching the corresponding icon.

You have to realise that I'm not a Dev. This is just a widget I'm putting together using Tasker and Zoom Widget designer. And I'm only doing it to show it's possible. I will put up the profiles/tasks or make a tutorial if I have the time. I'm sure other people could do one better.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejaylobo:
Okay, status of my iOS widget(for those of you curious). I'm canning it. Honestly, the Tasker programming required is possible but, Tasker(or my programming) is just too slow to make the widget actually usable. Elements of the Zoom widget take too long to appear, or are too slow to disappear. Also, Zoom's lack of animated transitions make the whole thing ugly. So, yeah. I guess I stand corrected, for now. EDIT: If this is to be built, it should be built as something that can make full use of the phone's resources. Speed is pretty important to getting this thing to be functional.

But, while working on the widget and researching iOS 5's widget, I couldn't help but dwell on something I said earlier in this thread. Why would I want a preview of my personal texts/emails on my lock screen? This is a privacy issue I do not want to deal with. Imagine someone turning your phone's screen on to see the beginning's of a personal text/email from your wife/gf, or some other private information. From the videos I've seen there is no way to turn off the preview, only the entire alert. Which defeats the purpose.

EDIT: Also, grouping notifications in the notification bar seems like a great touch. But, what if I get 20 missed calls? Or 30 e-mails? Android just tells you that you have "30 new mails" and you can sort it out once you click the notification and go to the app. But, what about on iOS 5? Now, that is what a real cluttered notification bar would look like to me. I would have to swipe through 20 missed calls to reach my 30 new emails?! And what about the lone Tweet on the bottom? I don't need to see all my messages in my notification bar, I just need to know what I've got and how many. Android does this well. Another feature is "Clear All", iOS 5 does not seem to have this yet. Clearing individual notifications is possible on both platforms (Swipe to clear and iOS 5's "x" button).

I'm not saying the iOS system is bad. But, I think people have been impressed by the eye candy and are not thinking this through.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvnatic:
Exactly my point, it just looks nice, but it is in no way more practical then android's method. Just go to UOT kitchen and make your own notification bar, an elegant and simple one. If you like cartoonish looks just grab a MIUI ROM with those fancy lockscreens.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laquintain:
I don't mean to sound stupid,but couldn't you some how convert the files from the "jail breaking" software? I mean, you do have to download stuff to jail break your iPhone,so why not some how get the coding and what not for the notifications thing? IT seems like it would be easy because if you've noticed you download your stock roms for android There are usually folders with the sms.apk ,system.apk (.etc). So wouldn't it be the same when you download the jail breaking stuff?

It's just my theory.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnythan:
You can't get the source code just from jailbreaking just like you can't get the Windows source code from an installation CD. Furthermore, the code would be useless anyway as the entire framework and all of the APIs and system calls are completely different.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laquintain:
Ah I've never owned an iPhone so I had no idea. I wouldn't know much about the jail breaking stuff,I just assumed it was the same as rooting. So much for that idea. :(

Edit:They have hacked macintosh(hackintosh) to work on a normal computer. Also,windows has been taken off disk to be put on torrents,isn't that copied information? I think it would be possible. I've also seen Android being dual booted on an iPhone 3Gs.If you can do android to iphone,then there's got to be a way to get IOS onto android.(not meaning all of IOS either,Just parts of it as we need it.)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnythan:
Jailbreaking is pretty much the same as rooting. The only reason we have custom kernels is that you can go and download the kernel source code since it's open source.

Your idea is akin to saying "can't we just port the Mac OS X dock directly to Windows?" Even if we had Apple's source code, which we absolutely do not, dropping thousands of lines of OS X code into Windows will not do anything at all.

"Hackintosh" works because Apple computers use the same hardware as regular Windows PCs. Back when Apple used PowerPC architecture instead of Intel/x86/x64, there was no Hackintosh. Only when Apple started using standard Intel CPUs did Hackintosh appear. The only significant difference is that Apple PCs use a different BIOS standard, but it's easily faked.

Getting iOS onto an Android handset would be significantly harder. Apple's use of custom chips in the iPhone means no Linux/Android drivers exist for the hardware. The screen also uses a 960x640 or 480x320 resolution, not a common resolution on Android handsets. It could possibly happen one day with enough driver hacking, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath.

In general you're confusing executables with source code. With the source code, pretty much anything could be possible. But we do not have the source code for Windows, OS X, iOS, or chunks of Android like Sense and wireless drivers. Rooting a device or cracking Windows activation does not yield source code.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrick_:
Yeah it's similar, but

much you can do once jailbroken you can already do on android without rooting.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laquintain:
ah you do have a point... I didn't think about the driver issues. maybe one day,right? lol

sent from my HTC Inspire 4g
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacGuy2006:
Hm, the "Android method," which is the cluttered notification bar, is both ugly and rather messy. That's why I hide the notifications bar and prefer to have counters on the app icons.

What you may call "eye candy" is simply good user interface.

But to each his own, I guess. Some people miss DOS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KryPTiCk0d3:
Hmmm, why are you even here. Go play with your ifail and its wonderful walt disney interface.

Sent from my *****'n Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvnatic:
Did you even try the kitchen I wrote about?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laurentbon:
Very interesting thread. My 2p:

While I think Android is and probably will remain way better than iOS', I would want to see a usable notification system on the lockscreen. That simply does not exist on Android. The lockscreen remains limited..

What I would love to see:

1. List of all apps with unread notifications,

2. Ability to expand & see all notifications for a given app,

3. Quick way to unlock and go to the app in question,

4. While keeping a secure way to have the phone locked (a mini pattern).

The closest to integrating a "usable" notification mechanism on the lockscreen for Android at the moment is GOTO lockscreen:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.innowebtech.g0t0

Still VERY limited compare to the features I would want to see.

In conclusion, until I see those features, sorry guys, but no matter how much I love Android (and I do), iOS 5 is ahead when it comes to integrating notifications on the Lockscreen!

L
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnxjets:
The swipe to clear a notification is in cm7

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grifforama:
+1

It's also in Deck 1.2.1, and anything else based on CM7.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvnatic:
Not to mention that you can use widgetlocker and fill it with all kinds of widgets that can display all kinds of info you would possibly need. Beat that, iCrap!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wuhlifant:
well on the iphone it might not be able to be turned off. But we here are with Mr. customizable-Android! :D

No, seriously. If someone were to touch my phone and read my mail and texts, i would simply chop their ears off. Well only if ther was extreme content in those texts. But guys comon. How often does that happen? If you cheat on your wife and your girlfriend texts you, you deserve it for your stupidity. If your 7 year old son reads "vagina" on your display, you just tell him the story of the bee and the flower.

Most guys don't even have passwords or lockpatterns for their phones, and you are concerned about missed calls or texts on the lockscreen?

I personally would love to have such a lockscreen like ios5. I don't wanna see that i got one missed call, and then unlock it and click on the notification, i wanna see immediately after i turned on the screen who called me and wheather i wanna call back or clear it. Same goes for texts and email.

Please don't tell me about things like widgetlocker. The looks of it is just ****ty if you don't have any photoshop skills or what so ever. You cannot do a thing if you don't have the knowhow to personalize it.

And yet, it wouldn't even be able get all those features. Not even close.

This thread should really be moved, so it gets some more attention.

And hater trolls. Please just go. You ain't any better than your hated apple fanbois.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eezdva:
I agree on the IOS5 function.

It's nice that you can see that you have a new email or what's app etc.

All the lockscreens show the app itself. And you can go to the app. But it's not the same.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] starsong:
Read the whole thread with interest, I would like to express my interest for such an app. It would make android have a more polished feel. We do have to admit that apple has good ideas sometimes and not just blindly hate everything apple.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbeebe24:
This sounds like a feature ics is implementing
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Like someone mentioned, if you want some of the iphone look give MIUI rom a try. I personally like the iphone look but love android more.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eezdva:
I don't think this has anything to do with the Iphone look. Rather a certain Iphone function.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
this is true, i meant function. miui has a lot of those functions.