yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
I know our devs rock. Most of the roms I have tried had sd working. This is what is probably a welcome advancement for the devs too...

"A new compatibility zoom mode that gives users a new way to view fixed-sized apps on larger devices. The new mode provides a pixel-scaled alternative to the standard UI stretching for apps that are not designed to run on larger screen sizes, such as on tablets."

I've loaded a few apps that did not adjust the screen size and with so many out there could you imagine being a developer making the zoom/size work across apps? Although on GB it seemed to be less of a problem.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Like your screen name ByByIpad and to answer your question...get QQplayer from market and you can play 1920p x 1080p videos with no choppiness in illuminate. You do need to download them using TubeMate or install them from a digital copy onto your G Tab but yes you can play them with no choppiness.

Welcome to my world. lol

I discovered this when I could not play certain HD videos streaming from the YouTube app. In the past with other roms I have always used a YouTube downloader to watch videos later. Got TubeMate for G Tab running HC and when you go to download it asks you what quality downloads you want the top quality is Samsung Galaxy tab 1920p x 1080 and it specifically says for high end devices. So I tried all the sizes to see which videos would play. QQPlayer plays them all. But the 1920p x 1080p play outstanding to my surprise.

Also I download podcasts which I enjoy watching or listening to. I get the HD ones and watch outside of the included streamer. There are issues playing HD streaming in apps. But outside the apps just accessing it from file explorer you get the full HD. Tekzilla looks like watching plasma TV.

Also, make sure you have Adobe Flash 10.3 any version and Smart Flash Player. Give each time to settle in and that's it. You would be surprised what G Tab can do.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Also, I want to add was looking at those AnTuTu readings from illuminate the different versions, and who knew you could tweak the ram/memory function to that extent? So on board there is only 512 but on version 2.0 the one I'm using now (and I have both loaded as backup so I can switch back and forth if I like) LBS has the memory tweaked at 743. On Nvanlaar's running illuminate 3.0 it was an astounding 1069. That is more than double output. So does the hardware specs matter ByByIpad is the question? How is that possible?
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
If you notice, Nvanlaar is overclocked at 1500 Mhz. Your test showed that you were running at the normal 1000. That may be why.
[G Tablet Android Development] real0325:
bullying

You guys are all in this together. Now I see the light its a shame; if something was proven why not close the thread? instead of the continuous picking this is ridiculous.
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
I apologize for the picking, but I, personally, think that it's all in good fun...I havent' been serious for a while with the picking toward Edirector and NCCU. I'm just trying to figure out this hardware acceleration problem. I truly suspect that hardware acceleration is really not as important as some of us think it is. If it's not important, than whether it's working or not is a moot point. If software decoding is just as good as hardware decoding, then it doesn't matter at all.

the only way the post will be closed is if LBS doesn't follow through with Jerdog's request. Unfortunately, based on his track record, I don't see LBS conforming to these rules.
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
@bybyiPad:

The Gtablet spec sheet states:

so, it can decode 1080p video to play on the display, and from what I've been told, will upscale it to fit 1080P HDTVs through the dock, and now the cable. 1080p is a resolution of 1920x1080. I'm going ot begin my testing as soon as these GIANT files are finished copying over.

That has lead me to one observation already. 16gb external memory to store media files, even 32 gb...2 movie files, one at 1080p, the other at 720p, and we're talking nearly 7gb total...what's the use if the files are so big at 1080p that you can only store 2-3 movies (with nothing else on the card)
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
TJEvans I love your technical attack mode. You go with the statistics. This is the very best way to learn what we have and what we can do with it. However can we just stick to the specifics of G Tab without the maligning of the dev every chance you get? We've all heard it and its getting to be a broken record. The rules are to respect everyone.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
What would be the point of closing the thread? We don't follow you. This one is no different then the GTabComb or Flashback were users are discussing the rom and respect the developers work.

Lately because we are discussing the technology it has gotten 100% better.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
When I first got G tab I took another dev on this site's rom (well a couple) and cracked it open to create my own cocktail. It was time consuming and much trial and error. Eventually I put together a supplement and released it. Just think the wrong combo; and although it is difficult to completely brick G Tab some have not figured out how to recover. Someone here bought a semi-bricked G-Tab for $100. So to work on entire roms take more concentration and depending on what your work schedule is--the one that pays the bills, there just may not be enough hours in a day, to be all things to all people. Some devs do have families.

So what do you do? Maximize your time by time managing. I get why some websites send out email newsletters or other such related practices...you can hit a lot of people at once with the same info and allow yourself time to do everything else you need to do like actually living a life. For some, rom building is a hobby. lol Just some food for thought.
[G Tablet Android Development] aabbondanza:
Really don't want to get involved in the who has the biggest badest ROM.

Tried QQplayer & downloaded the NVidia 1080P test video from youtube. QQplayer plays it very slowly (but smooth). Tried it on Rockplayer on software decode & it plays the same as QQ, but Rockplayer has a setting to display the frame rate. Frame rate varies between 7-12fps.

Tried Rockplayer on hardware decoding & it won't play @ all. It's either a lack of RAM or the Tegra can't handle the bit rate at full speed. Maybe even be a combination of both.

Played it on my PC & it runs full speed. Video is 107MB, 4:21 length, 1920x1080, 3.4Mbps bit rate @ 29 FPS. I put in in my Dropbox if you wan to download & test directly http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36150173/Nvidia%20PureVideo%20HD%201080p%20Test_Full-HD.mp4. Download to your PC (by right clicking/save target as) and transfer to gtab. If you click the link from your gtab it will try to open in your player.

There is also a setting QQ setting called "Suppress image quality - Suppress image quality to achieve more smooth playing". If you check this, the video plays very close to full speed, but at visibly reduced image qulaity. Comparing it to the PC playback, screen transitions jump onto the screen in QQ while they fade in an out properly on the PC.

If you have it playing on Illuminate at full speed, without reduced image quality I'd love to see it. Can you record it and upload to youtube? Thanks.

Al

Just for gigles, I downconverted the video to native res (1024x600) at 2.5Mbps, 24fps. Hardware decoding stilla no go. but both Rock & QQ software decode appear full speed (23.8fps) & look very good.

This is on Calkulin+Clemsyn Combo v6.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Thanks aabbondanza we are just all testing our theories and it gives us something to tinker with. I didn't have to make any adjustments to QQplayer but I will try your file and see what I discover.
[G Tablet Android Development] aabbondanza:
If you want to test the video, download to your PC by right clicking the link, otherwise it will try to open it in your player on the gtab!!!
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Incredible I played it on my laptop from within Chrome browser but downloaded on gtab and played it at the same time to see the results. The color and clarity on Gtab is amazing aabbondanza.

You need to install illuminate to see it for yourself. A 2nd or 3rd party experience is not going to cut it. No more sitting on the bench get in the game. Thanks for the video! And, just think I am on the 2.0 version of illuminate I think I will switch to my 3.0 version to see what it looks like from there.

By the way my GTab came with the King Kong 1080p clip so I had an advantage to begin with.
[G Tablet Android Development] ddarvish:
so i was wondering if anyone gets random lockups that either last 20-30 seconds or just freeze the whole tablet pretty routinely especailly when using the browswer...
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
While the video is playing or in general?
[G Tablet Android Development] dustinw82:
Don't forget, you can use the USB port and store movies on large flash drives.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
For those using illuminate 3.0 I have copies of both backed up so I can go back and forth. I just rolled over to 3.0 to test that video aabbondanza uploaded and the clarity and picture quality is much better in 2.0 almost like it is running different drivers. I played it twice and it is clearly not the same. I will add it to the bug reporting system. The difference is that big. The video is smoother running because from looking at Nvanlaar's stats we can certainly understand why. The picture quality in 3.0 is closer to my LCD TV than my plasma. No, I will definitely be rolling back to 2.0.

I prefer 2.0 because the browser loads faster and it is a pet peeve of mine--fast loading web pages, my ISP will confirm that. I had better be turning pages like in a book oppose to waiting for freakin pages to load. Also, it feels zippier and I like the HC interface better without the GB features and now I know the graphic quality is the deal breaker. Ok the rollback is in progress. To each his own, what matters to one man may not matter to another. At least I tested the video and it works.
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
For my testing purposes, E, should I be using 2.0, or 3.0? Does 2.0 have hardware acceleration. Not surprising, LBS doesn't keep an updated changelog for each version.

If it's playing smoother on 2.0, without hardware acceleration, then I would think that would be difinitive proof that hardware acceleration is bupkiss...

let mek now. I'm still on Flashback now (TB restore just finished) and I'll be testing videos on it, prior ot flashing illuminate for my tests.

so, 2.0, or 3.0, which should I test?
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
OH, and my Acer Aspire One is laughable...I ran the Nvidea 1080 test. I almost got ot 10 FPS WINDOWED...not even at true resolution. Then again, I don't think that these tiny netbooks were ever mrketted as media juggernauts, huh?
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
I said it played smoother on 3.0 but the clarity and picture quality is incredible on 2.0. To best describe it is like 2.0 has backlit led picture quality.

Depends on what you are seeking to get out of your testing. If you are wanting smoother playing video 3.0 but if you want better picture quality 2.0. Remember this software is not produced by say Adobe or Microsoft who uses a team of people and still does not manage to get it 100% perfect. Let's be realistic about this. lol

Also, LBS did state in the write up it had to settle in and I hadn't used 3.0 in awhile. But there was no time duration stated for the settle in period.
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
now, are you using hardware decoding, or software? Regardless of which version of the rom you are on.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
Try to use first the hardware decoding it uses system optimization to ensure smooth playback if you are going with Rockplayer. Software decoding ignores that and uses only CPU for processing the video. This can sometime results in choppy playback and battery drain including heavy CPU usage.

Keep in mind with QQPlayer you don't have to, unless you want to tweak settings.

Mobile QQ player supports all the popular formats of videos on the market, including AVI, FLV, MP4, 3GP, MKV, MOV and etc. In addition, QQ Player also supports SRT, SMI plug-in subtitle and MKV embedded subtitle, as well as multiple audio tracks switching. Its smart core technology auto detects video formats and makes it much easier for you to enjoy smoother, better quality videos with limited resources.
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
My results of a long day of testing are in. I posted them in the Froyo vs Honeycomb thread in the general section. But as far as Illuminate is concerned, I can confirm that LBS has enabled hardware acceleration, but it does not work. When selecting the 1080p, or 720p videos to play in hardware mode, they don't proceed, they'll stay at 0 seconds and not play at all. Software decoding, they will play, but pretty choppy. The graphics are on par with the Froyo roms I tested (BC, Calk/Clem v5 and v6, stock 3588).

The interesting proof that hardware acceleration is not functioning is that standard videos...AVI format, xvid, DVD quality will play using software decoding in Froyo and Honeycomb (independant on version) equally...they are exactly the same. However, when attempting to select hardware decoding in Illuminate (or Flashback) I get a message stating simply "Can't be played !!" In Froyo, however, it WILL play. The quality isn't really that much better, though, and hardware decoding can't play AC3 audio, where Software can.

So, what's my comclusion...1080p and 720p can not be played at a watchable quality in ANY rom, Froyo, Honeycomb, what have you.

Standard definition video can be played with Software decoding in ANY rom, Froyo, Honeycomb, what have you.

Standard definition video can ONLY be played with hardware decoding in Froyo Roms...neither of the Honeycomb roms, Flashback, or Illuminate will open a standard def movie in hardware decoding...

The big picture...just use software decoding and watch standard def movies. Hardware acceleration for high definition video playback is nonexistant in any operating system, or any rom. It means absolutely nothing, as far as which OS is better.

This is good for you illuminate people, and all HC lovers. This means that the folks who have been holding out flashing an HC rom, really have nothing to wait for anymore. (unless they REALLY need that crappy camera) Hardware acceleration is such a minimal part of Froyo roms, and doesn't even support high def videos to begin with. So, since Froyo roms don't support it, and neither does HC, then what are they (we) waiting for?
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
First I applaud your effort TJEvans geez you have been at something, but where is the video of it? When we ran your test we posted the results where every could see.

2. You are wrong about the video watching because I am able to watch higher than 1080 videos and I explained in detailed how. I believe somewhere on this thread someone else confirmed the same thing already So, what's my comclusion...1080p and 720p can not be played at a watchable quality in ANY rom, Froyo, Honeycomb, what have you. Is misinformation and to be taken as such. Some people received Gtab shipped with a 1080p video like I did straight from VS and it played then and it plays now. Anyone here can also download the Asus Transformer VS Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 video with TubeMate at 1280 x 720(high end devices) and watch it to test the theory. I just got finished watching it. Was looking for a much higher resolution YouTube video and when I do I will post it for your testing also. And I was able to watch the 1080p video that was posted on the thread earlier.

3. Please state how or what you tried to watch them in. Did you stream download or both?

4. No two Gtabs are the same its the nature of the beast. What may not work for you may work for someone else that has been proven time and time again. So there are no absolutes.

5. My suggestion is for everyone to run their own tests and come to their own conclusions. Not saying TJEvans is wrong on all his conclusions just saying see for yourself.

TJEvans again you have been busy all day but a lot of the roms need to settle in first no matter which one you are flashing. You can't run them for an hour or 15 minutes and get good results. Why didn't you run each for a day, or two and even a week?
[G Tablet Android Development] nccu_eagles:
you two (edirector/TJEvans) have given me some good reading on this boring sunday....I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE NFL SEASON BEGINS...
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
I'm sure nccu_eagles I'm dizzy. But highly anticipating those screenshots, video and other proof of the tangibility of TJEvans experimentation. This was fun since I wasn't doing all the work. I came here to take the load off it was this or animal planet and Hillbilly Hand-fishing.
[G Tablet Android Development] TJEvans:
uh, am I allowed to say "go Steelers" or would that cause yet ANOTHER argument....Edirector most definitely sounds like he would be a Cowboy's fan...if you know what I mean.

Yeah, he was somewhat nice to me here, but attempted to crucify me eon the main thread that the testing was hapening on.

Edirector. I DID download that 1080p video that was posted earlier, the Nvidea preview movie. I DID load it, after flashing to Illuminate, so that was the only one I tested it on. I tried to open it in Votal player (the one that the esteemed LBS states has hi def video playback working on) and it froze at 0 seconds. I played it with software decoding, and it played, not a beautiful hi def playback, and slightly choppy, but it played.

IF hardwae acceleration were enabled and working, then Rockplayer, Mobo player, Vital player, and your beloved QQplayer (more on that later) would have at least opened a standard video with hardware decoding. The truth is, NONE of them did. Most said, unable to play file, or can't play file, or something similar. BUT, they worked with software decoding, with equal quality of any of the Froyo roms I tried...and since Hardware decoding won't play hi def properly in Froyo anyway, I concluded that they are ALL EQUAL, and hardware acceleration means NOTHING.

I REALLY, REALLY want to see proof from YOU, that you can play a 1080p video using HARDWARE DECODING ( I need to see you make the selection) and have it run AT ALL...likewise, you can even use a standard def video and do the same.

I already know what happens, I've DONE it, ALL DAMN DAY!!!

Now, back to QQplayer. I find it interesting that somebody that is so in love with tablet optimized apps likes a player that defaults to portrait mode. The wooden shelf is nice ot look at, but portrait...come on, this is a tablet, things are supposed to be landscaped. besides that, I kept getting a message when trying to switch default folders, but I wouldn't understand it becuase it wasn't English. I won't assume that I know what language it was, but it was most definitely Asian.

I used Vital Player as my first test base, becuase LBS clamied that it had HD working to an extent. Now, as far as settling? Are you telling me that if I try ot play a 1080p movie today and it doesn't work, that perhaps 3 weeks from now it will? I can understand instances of force closes becoming more scarce, or wifi drops, well, dropping off, etc, but if there's no hardware acceleration today, then there won't be next week, or 3 weeks from now.

I will tell you that I DID like the look of illuminate. I wasn't too fond of hte android green scheme (never been a fan of that regardless of the rom) and the lack of status bar at the bottom threw me off, but the one thing that I thought was REALLY cool, wasthe custom lock screen...that was *****in, seriously.
[G Tablet Android Development] edirector:
No I was supporting your efforts but you had us posting screens shots, now you want video but you haven't shown us anything as proof of your experimentation. What kind scientist gtabologist are you? lol You do the lab work but you don't take the notes. We just want to see how, what, when and where.

I was with you TJEvans but show us the money.
[G Tablet Android Development] davidbruington:
Huh. That's odd, I downloaded and installed 1.4 with a clean install from stock, and it reports I'm running 1.3 as well....

EDIT: it seems as though the download links (both 1.3 and 1.4) are for the same file.... I may be wrong, but the file size is exactly the same, as is the name... although the name is negligible.
[G Tablet Android Development] degree210:
I am experiencing the same problem, the build number reporting 1.3, and was lead to believe that they were the same file...

Maybe some of the users who got 1.4 to show up as their build number could tell us how they did it... Would be greatly appreciated!!!

BTW, other than the Wifi problems, love the rom :)
[G Tablet Android Development] ByByIpad:
KEEP AIRPLANE MODE ON for WIFI

First of all thank you for this ROM.

ROEBEET is a legend. Hope, you can join him in the Hall of Fame.

I'm on 1.3. It was buggy at first with many forcecloses and resets, but it seems to be stabilizing. Regarding Wifi, the Airplane Mode fix worked for me. Check Airplane Mode on Wifi, then reboot. Airplane Mode will then be always on, then turn on Wifi to connect if Wifi ever disconnects.

Still trying to download 1.4.

I have 2 Gtablets. Brilliant Corners 1.2.1 ,wth HULU and Netflix, is my daily driver and my other tablet is for flashing/testing the Honeycomb ROMs.

Keep up the great work.

EDIT: 2746 Quadrant Score using CPU Master 1400 Max/817 Min.
[G Tablet Android Development] goodintentions:
You are not the first to question this possibility. Trust me, ever since the gtab first came out this option has been thoroughly explored by devs, modders, and enthusiasts. The only way to get the usb gps to work on the gtab (or any tablet in that matter) is to completely rewrite the kernel. If you want to take on this task, please be my guest. :p

You need a bluetooth gps receiver. You can get a really really good one for $20 on ebay. I got one for my elderly dad and oh my goodness it connects to the sats in 10 seconds. It works wonderfully. You need one of the many bluetooth gps connection apps. Also, you need to go to settings and allow mock location. And you need something like copilot and download the US map.

I have not tested the gps on this version of honeycomb, but I see absolutely no reason why it shouldn't work. This weekend when I have time I will flash this rom and will try this out. I'll report back when I get the results.

Added by edit.

I think xboxsolution and roebeet should get married and combine their brains. I'm sure we will have a fully functional honeycomb version if these two got married.
[G Tablet Android Development] transitoyspace:
Ya Im about to give up on the USB gps soultion. I still have mine from street and trips from 2007. Which still works like a champ on my laptop. Just thought Id put it to good use and not by a gps.

I do have an evo, i could easily use tethergps. But i dont like to wait for maps to load on gmaps...on every cm7 rom(for 1.1) none open up. Just fc. Seeing as they are lacking support, Ill do the switch to 1.2 this weekend and install this rom.

I just a GPS app to open up. Ill set it up via gps tether.

Anyways, so is 1.4 really uploaded or mixed up right now?

And is wifi issue sorted out yet, and no i dont mean the airplane fix.

Off topic question,

If i retheme this rom, do i have to resign it, i usually just open it up on 7zip and save thorugh there so i dont mess with sigs

Also have there been any issues with DSP or poweramp on this rom?

ps thanks for the tips goodintentions:)