yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] random1204:
Yeah, I just realized that...but I'm coming to the 3D from AT&T. Granted, their devices are more solid now that I think of the Verizon Droid brandings that makes everyone ask if you have a Droid phone...not an Android apparently...

Regardless, I can't stand locked bootloaders. I had my Captivate and rooted it within the same hour. The next morning I was new to flashing and soft-bricked it. Then, I flashed a new ROM at least once a month. The last 3 months I had it, I flashed a new one...every week. Last week? Every day. HAHAHA

I just like the freedom that comes with it. I will miss the 16 gb on the internal that my Captivate had...but that's okay.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
Not true. The original droid felt very solid, and had a metal battery cover, with the soft rubber over the whole back of the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Moto only turns me off with their attitude. Their hardware is really good.
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
pie versus cake all over again :)

cake>pie

evo3d>photon
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
I was commenting to the other poster, but yes, i don't like their encrypted boot loaders they have been releasing their phones with.
[HTC EVO 3D] random1204:
Yeah, like I already said, I forgot about the Droid-brand phones. I came from AT&T where they had and still have nothing but crappy plasticky phones.

I still think HTC is better though...and as far as blur goes? I'd rather go back to my Nokia 3220. Which it's greatest feature was that it light up on all sides with built in leds. HAHAHAHA
[HTC EVO 3D] codito:
The 2.3 version of Blur (at least on my GF's Droid X) is actually pretty nice. Very usable.
[HTC EVO 3D] KingKuba13:
Did you get that from a qualcomm flyer?

The GPU might be better but it's the CPU that's lagging behind.

There other devices out with qhd and bloated ui's and they perform better.

I guess once you modded and run it at @1.5, you'll be on par so no biggie. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Not as big as sense

infected evo
[HTC EVO 3D] nkd:
the snapdragon processors are damn fast. Have you seen the thunderbolt, the single core almost getting 1800 quadrant, not that I care but it is true that quadrant is probably not optimized for the new snapdragon dual core cpu's. if he got a flyer, did you get one too telling you that the cpu is lacking. Yes sense is big but it is probably the most thought out interface by any manufacture, actually a lot of work went in sense. I have had few sense phones and they all perform pretty damn good although it might eat up a lot of resources.

SGS2 is a damn good phone no doubt, I just cant believe that a phone gets bashed for having the specs of evo and its not even out yet. Kinda pathetic.
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
SGSII blows past both photon and evo no doubt,

I have the feeling it is still very far out though
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
sounds epic; now I can check in with 4square .3 seconds faster!
[HTC EVO 3D] LoveisPeace2012:
When you smoke as much ganja as me speed means everything, son
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Yep try November or December...its trying too hard to be an iPhone for me. Sgs2 = iphone
[HTC EVO 3D] codito:
If you're in a rush for your phone to do something you're probably not high on thc. If anything you'd be the opposite.
[HTC EVO 3D] alchemist316:
Wow you have all three cool :p

infected evo
[HTC EVO 3D] moonzbabysh:
Comparison Evolution 3D, S2 and Photon

http://androidforums.com/android-lo...-evo-3d-vs-motorola-photon-4g-comparison.html

SGT 10.1 uplink initiative
[HTC EVO 3D] jagox5:
photon

Well after reading all the bad reviews Seems to me the real EVO successor is the Motorola Photon 4g.

these are what matters to me:

*CAN record 1080p (looking at you HTC)

*Dual core (wanted snapdragon) but.. Tegra 2 is fine better games

*Hdmi out full mirroring

*kickstand!

*4.3 qHD Screen

and surely cant forget word phone capable!

I'm liking motos new power house phone may get it.

or ill just wait for the Galaxy s2:cool:.
[HTC EVO 3D] mlin:
No thanks on a Motorola device.

Tapa tapa tapa
[HTC EVO 3D] NYCguy2020:
+1

Locked bootloader+MotoCrap(Blur)= EPIC FAIL!
[HTC EVO 3D] JakedGr8:
True. If I see that a lot of Devs are behind the E3D, I'll get that. locked bootloader for photon makes the phone half it not worse its potential.

~ Jake
[HTC EVO 3D] dwntwnall4u:
How about the HTC Kingdom?
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr.Shroom:
Uhmmm the only thing missing from the E3d from your list is a kickstand. The Evo 3d will record 1080p in 2d and drops to 720 in 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Maybe...but it's Android!
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
I guess you missed the news, eh?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1125889

Maybe the devs will figure it out.
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Are you an idiot. What comparison is that?

Specs?

We want dog fights.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr.Shroom:
i did sorry lammme
[HTC EVO 3D] spalding1028:
Working at Radioshack, I HATE it when customers come in and ask if I sell the droid on sprint (usually referring to the evo)
[HTC EVO 3D] treckin:
In going to get the e3d and if I don't like it ill get the photon!
[HTC EVO 3D] popular nobody:
I have a pet peeve that's really irking me. The EVO 3D is not the successor to the EVO 4G. It's another high end device to their EVO family. EVO 2 was meant to be another device, but both companies agreed that the EVO 3D will be a bigger game changer. It'll come out, but won't have the better specs.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mr.Shroom:
Sounds interesting. please go on...
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Phonearea says 720p.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-PHOTON-4G_id5577
[HTC EVO 3D] moonzbabysh:
Idiot?? Really bro??? I posted that up so users can see the specs all side by side, when I posted that not all the phones were released at that point, so how could a "dogfight" comparison have been made? No need to be calling names when you don't know shyt about me. Go troll another site.
[HTC EVO 3D] kellybrf:
ive got both. ive only spent a bit of time with the photon, but i like the 3d better personally. i dont care about the 3d features, but since it doesnt hinder the performance of the phone its a fine extra feature to have. the display of the photon might be a bit better but the difference isnt drastic. the feel is very similar as is the size. you do notice that the photon is lighter, but i think the 3d feels a bit more sturdy. really these two phones are pretty similar.

what it comes down to for me is the slightly faster feel to the 3d software, and the fact that i like sense better than the moto/sprint id interface. really, its kinda personal and you cant go wrong with either.
[HTC EVO 3D] noblerinthemind:
I've been waiting to upgrade from my BB for a while now and leave Verizon for Sprint. I thought at first that the 3D would be the phone for me but the reviews were not all that great and it sounds like the focus on 3D has been at the expense of the normal screen quality and camera. Already the photon 4g has had nothing but good reviews -

http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/29/motorola-photon-4g-review/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2389291,00.asp

(editor's choice)

There are a bunch more out there. I think as kellybrf said, it's a matter of personal choice at the end of the day and they're both good phones. But for me, it's looking like the Photon.

My 2.
[HTC EVO 3D] Tilde88:
get the HTC vogue
[HTC EVO 3D] Success100:
Just left the sprint store...my dude works there and let me see the photon..I hated it. Walked out with 3vo no questions
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
So lemme get this clear.

The Photon's got a 1ghz Tegra 2, while the Evo 3D has 1.2 Quallcomm (overclockable to 1.5) {Evo win}

Don't care about UI cuz I use launcher pro on my HD2 atm, and I love it. {Tie}

BUT the photon has a GSM radio, which means it's great for travelling, AND it has an 8mp camera with 1080p recording. {Photon win}

So the main thing that sets these phones apart is the Evo's 3D screen. I'm thinking that the 3D screen might feel like a gimmick, or it might put straining on my eyes.

This is my deal breaker, so has anybody found any problems while using the Evo 3D?

Any info would help! Thanks :D
[HTC EVO 3D] justwonder:
3D on this Evo is a bonus, you can always don't need to use it.

The other thing to consider is EVO 3D now has S-off, alot of things will follow, not sure about Photon.
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Well, photon bootloader is locked like ft. knox and who knows when it will be unlocked. I had an atrix... No comparison. Screen sucks. Atrix has only been publicly overclocked to 1.1Ghz, evo 3d had already hit 1.8Ghz! Also, look at atrix dev section. They don't have **** still and its been unlocked for almost a month... We have more in 24 hours. Plus the tegra 2 is already almost a year old.
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
Don't forget the photon has the kickstand the 3vo shouldve had. I love the kickstand on my OG.

I had a 3vo for a couple weeks and a bunch of little things that bothered me made me return it. I'll pick up a photon tomorrow and see how I like it. If I don't then ill probably get the 3vo again. Or hold out for the prime
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
lemme know how that works out for you! And what pissed you off about the evo?
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
Yeah that's great! My HD2 is two years old, and because of the ability to use NAND I'm running on 2.3.5 with no bugs or anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] KingKuba13:
1.8ghz and still slower....so sad.
[HTC EVO 3D] Success100:
I'm sure the sensor in the 3vo can do 1080p w/software mods...the sensation can do it out the box
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
Yea my bro's got the sensation, it comes with an 8 meg shooter, not the dual fives that the Evo has. Would it still support 1080p?
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
Really? Still slower? You are absolutely correct that benchmarks are slower... however, the actual usage of the phone is anything but slow! I dont know how many problems I had with my Atrix. The 3D may score lower on benchmarks but thats it, benchmarks are nowhere relevent to real world, every day usage. Moto completely sucks! After the Atrix, I will never own another Moto. Loved the phone while I had it but it was my first android device. Now that I have had something with the quality of the 3D, I will most likely never leave HTC. Plus, like I said before, look at the Atrix forums and see what they have come up with in the last month... nothing compared to the last 24 hours on the 3D forums. I am done with my rant. If you would like to be a complete moron and buy a phone with a locked, encrypted and signed bootloader that is a peice of crap and not a great peice of hardware that is already unlocked... have fun and I'll say ahead of time "I told you so".
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
:confused: How is it slower? It's the newest gen Quallcomm, and a more powerful one in general. I think the only thing the tegra 2 supports is better graphics.
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
Absolutely correct +1
[HTC EVO 3D] kawaski47:
Tilted screen, narrower screen (though the photon I think is the same size so that might be moot), dead pixels, bulky (I thought). Most of my issues were from faulty hardware that can be fixed with another device but i didn't want to go Through the whole "exchange and hope for a better one" fiasco.

Basically get the photon if you don't care about rooting (and this is XDA so everyone here pretty much does)

And get the 3vo if you want fantastic dev support, and a truly customizable phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
UPDATE!

Okay guys, just went to my local sprint store.

I tested BOTH and here's what I found regarding the Photon 4G vs the Evo 3D:

Evo wins. Why? Because of a number of things:

Specs: The 1.2 ghz (capable of 1.8) Dual core Quallcomm chipset is MUCH better than the aging Tegra 2 (only 1ghz). It's faster and can handle graphics better.

The 3D's screen is actually very good, no strain on the eyes, and the 3D is turned off until you see 3D multimedia (movies, pictures, etc). It's basically a sensation when the 3D doesn't kick in. And boy there is NO lag whatsoever (compared to the Photon's horrible UI)

Support: The evo 3D has a confirmed bootloader unlock probably coming with an OTA update sometime soon. Moto's Photon is shipping with a locked bootloader, and everybody knows Motorola's tendency of screwing people over with their outdated updates.

Durability: The Evo felt MUCH better in the hand compared to the 'plasticy' Photon. Dropping that sucker probably won't do anything bad to it, but I had second thoughts about the Photon.

Don't get me wrong, they're both amazing phones, and you'll be set with either one. But my preference will probably be the future proof Evo 3D. Just my 2 cents. Hope this helped! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] parousia15:
Before the 3VO, I had the Evo 4G. When that phone is compared to the galaxy s, droid 2, droid x, etc, the processors handled graphics better, recording 720p better, etc. But what made the 4G standout and ultimately be the superior phone was the development community. between the 100+ ROMS and unique programs/kernels developed for the phone, the functionality increased as well as the shelf life.

Now that the phone has perm root and team win (and I'm sure others will join in now that root has been achieved), I believe the 3VO will have an edge on the motorola phones and a head start on the galaxy s II.

That's why the 3VO gets my vote.

PS. Support your devs!
[HTC EVO 3D] di11igaf:
What exactly is slow about the EVO 3d? I'm gonna guess your basing this off benchmarks(probably quadrant), which the EVO does win a few(linpack for one off the top of my head- no neon for tegra 2). If you think that don't matter, try to load a TRUE 720p(not YouTube app hd) and watch the tegra struggle so bad It's not even watchable. The EVO will be buttery smooth. I can't say I've messed with the photon, but the atrix is THE laggiest android phone I've owned. I have both phones, and there's really nothing faster or smoother about the atrix.

Wait till the evos cores get locked together.
[HTC EVO 3D] blues2009:
I have to disagree. Ive had the 3vo and now own the photon. As for the youtube app the photon handled it pretty well compared to the 3vo. The photon is slightly laggy and blur is meh. As for n64oid and fpse it handled them very well. For example goldeneye for n64 was playable, but 3vo i couldnt play through the lag.

As for the video camera, no contest. Photon had 0 slutter. 3vo just flat out sucked, but stills were pretty good on both. I also like u can use wiimote right out the box instead of waiting for root. Hope this helps others with some questions.
[HTC EVO 3D] di11igaf:
No I'm saying find a 720p video on the web, not in the YouTube app. Any will do as long as you know It's 720p. The tegra will not be able to play the video. It want even handle it on my.honeycomb tablet.
[HTC EVO 3D] blues2009:
Oh ok. That i do agree with you.
[HTC EVO 3D] ScrapMaker:
after owning the Photon for about 5 hours, I can safely say the 3D is much faster. Android feels sluggish on the Photon. All menus are choppy, the phone lags when you are downloading or installing apps. The screen makes me dizzy and looks shaky and grainy. The speaker is AMAZING though. I can't stand the 3D's speaker. I had to get the 3D again since there are no other qHD options now or in the near future.

To me it feels like HTC hardware accelerated their load of Android, while Motorola did not. it was painfully slow. Perhaps the screen was brighter by default, but I don't think it was more vibrant than the HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanstrien:
Please keep the feedback coming. I need to choose this week.

I am leaning to the Photon because of the gsm, but love my evo 4g.
[HTC EVO 3D] ScrapMaker:
I spent nearly all day with the Photon and it's considerably slower than the 3vo. I would have kept it because of the reception and the speaker being much better, but the screen was terrible for MY eyes. Some people cannot see these issues, so for them it does not matter.
[HTC EVO 3D] alex2792:
I'm really liking the photon so far, I passed on the 3d after playing with it at the Sprint store when it launched. The only complaint is the lack of quick settings in the pull down menu like sense 2.1/3. Hopefully it's rooted soon so that a custom rom can remedy that situation though. Overall it's a big improvement from the OG Evo.
[HTC EVO 3D] r0cky0790:
Nobody is going to waist their time developing for that phone. Especially now that the 3D has s-off.

My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
[HTC EVO 3D] Galecio Family:
EVO hands down. I have to say of all the new phones out I am the envy of all my co-workers with this phone. Sure the 3D is gimmicky, but works well and makes for good times with friends. In other news I just got this bad boy today and I have to say that my EVO captured its color perfectly!
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
You seem to be under the assumption that all developers have the 3D.:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] jfoster38122:
Is that a sebae?
[HTC EVO 3D] Galecio Family:
Yes sir! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] dcfella:
Spent about 15 minutes playing with the Photon today at Sprint. My initial thoughts are the following:

1. Colors look more vibrant

2. Phone doesn't feel that bad at all. Feels thinner than the 3D.

3. Motoblur or whatever they call it really sucks. It felt slow moving screen to screen.

I read a bunch of reviews stating how good the photon is. It doesn't seem bad, but not the top of the heap Sprint phone that some reviewers make it out to be. I really can't see someone liking motorola's UI more than Sense or stock android though.
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
I just had some guy comment on an article I commented on where I brought up some positives about the 3D compared to the Photon and he was bragging about how amazing the Photon was and how it was so cool because it's a world phone (honestly, how many people ever leave the country?) and how the original Evo and the 3D don't support Exchange. At that point I laughed at him, called him an idiot, and moved on with life.
[HTC EVO 3D] Torethyr:
I like both. Specs on both are great, but Motorola has been shockingly draconian with their attitude toward unlocking bootloaders and stuff lately whereas HTC has announced that all their bootloaders will be unlocked by the end of the year, so that's a plus for HTC for me.

What was holding me back from the Photon was that it's basically Atrix 1.1, and I love CM7. Up until like three days ago, there seemed to be no interest in CM7 support for the Atrix/Photon. But it seems like things are moving along so it could be a good competitor for my affections.
[HTC EVO 3D] drZuheir:
HTC will release cdma and gsm phone soon with 8 mega dualcore and 1.2 ram ;) Xmas release .... hold ur breath... HTC is fast in competition..
[HTC EVO 3D] dhoshman:
We'll its pretty simple htc supports developers moto not so much. Other than the world phone thing I really dont see how anyone can say the photon is "Better" than the 3vo, although I respect peoples opinion. Plus I've got this 3vo over clocked to 1.7 and cf benchmark has me at 7450 and molesting galaxy s2 scores. Whats not to love about that?
[HTC EVO 3D] Carbon Trooper:
Nuff said.
[HTC EVO 3D] vanjangles:
EVO 3D hands down man down
[HTC EVO 3D] mage_slayer2:
i love my 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] Jungle Jack:
Hello,

Even before the Photon hit the Market I started a Thread which spoke of the Media Bias towards the 3D. It simply makes no sense. (no pun intended)

I cannot believe just how much better Battery Life is, I have not even messed with anything 3D since the first week of ownership, yet this value added feature seems to cause so much derision among Professional Reviewers.

Now with the amazing Developers making more and more progress with this phone now that full Root has been achieved, my only gripe with the 3D is how weak the Speaker is. And given all of the positives, this is not remotely close to being a deal breaker.

While I am waiting for Root to be a bit more seamless before going ahead and doing it and I am definitely not going to be doing through HTC, I do think once HTC's fix is reversed engineered that Root will become much easier. I am looking forward to having Set CPU again, Hulu, getting rid of Bloatware, etc..

For those happy with the Photon, that is wonderful. I do think the lack of Developer Support will keep it from reaching its fullest potential, but it is a very good Phone. After being with Sprint for 12 Years, I am just happy that there are so many excellent choices. For so long, Sprint was miles behind when it came to Handsets.

Cheers,

JJ
[HTC EVO 3D] Andy0682:
i thought the root process for the 3d was a lot less painless then it was for my OG evo when i did it
[HTC EVO 3D] itsallsubliminal:
Short story, not a lot of info:

My uncle (in his early 40s) not too into the technical aspect of smartphones, but had the OG Evo and text me last week "Photon or Evo 3D?" I told him i have the 3D and absolutely love it especially with its new and improved battery life, but since there is a 30 day trial period, i told him to test both instore, choose one and if he doesn't like it to switch it up. 4 days later, I shot him a text "so how you liking the Photon?"..

his reply: "Returned it after the first day. Hated the Photon, LOVE the 3D."

i didn't ask for more details (he never really gives good detail lol), but IMO if you aren't a gamer/graphics junky, the Photon is probably not the right choice.
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyRq:
Hi. I've been using Pulse News for reading RSS feeds lately, but now i find a little bit "messy".So I launched HTC News. I remembered that it was working perfectly the time i bought mine Legend, but now every time I'm trying to search a feed by a keyword, it gives me blank results no matter what I type in.

I'm using B 0.8.4. If anyone could check if they have the same problem and report here, I would be grateful.

Heres a logcat when I'm trying to search for a feed:

D/Newsstand( 916): Search feeds by Keyword Pclab.pl
D/Newsstand( 916): server id1
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): SF service connected
I/Custom Debugger( 1240): Searching online..
I/ Debugger.print( 1240): Searching : Pclab.pl
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): search online type = 1
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): sf taskId = 4
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): after adding sf taskId 4 to sf_task_list
D/Newsstand( 916): SearchChannelAct4 onStart
D/Newsstand( 916): data storage space=126279680
D/Newsstand( 916): SearchChannelAct4 onResume
D/Newsstand( 916): counter 0
D/Newsstand( 916): No select
I/webview ( 1208): setSIPisVisible=false hasWindowFocus()=false oldvisible=true
inEditingMode()=false this=com.android.browser.htc.ui.HTCWebView@455281d8
D/dalvikvm( 269): GC_EXPLICIT freed 1589 objects / 63880 bytes in 192ms
D/NewsManager( 916): release() 2
D/BT HS/HF( 276): gsmAsuToSignal=9
D/BT HS/HF( 276): gsmAsuToSignal=10
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): notifyResult, send a intent out
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): nofityResult, callback count = 2
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): i = 0 taskId = 4
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): task 4 is not ac
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): i = 1 taskId = 4
D/HtcDebugger_Eng( 1240): task 4 is sf
D/Newsstand( 916): Search Feed OK
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] da_hool:
I have the same problem with the same ROM. The problem existed even with earlier versions of the Blay0's rom and Ogo2's desocialized version. I posted about it in the main thread and if I recall a couple people had the same issue (including Ogo2).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] feloccio:
I recently sold my iPod because my hd2 does the same job.

But there is one big disadvantage of it:

I cannot navigate through tracks without pulling the phone out of the pocket.

Would it be possible to remap hardbuttons to back, play/pause, next while music is playing and phone is locked? Unlocking or waking the phone should restore the original buttons.

That would make the hd2 into a real good music player.

Thank you in advance. I hope nand development is the right place for that;-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rubikum:
well im using vol up/down keys to navigate tracks forwards/backwards in cyanogenmod 7 :)

but yep it would be nice to take it further, it should be possible to use all hardware keys except the end call button when phone is locked

+1 on this