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[EVO 4G General] shortydoggg:
:confused:Has anyone been able to downgrade Android 2.3 back to 2.2?

People are trying to downgrade their phones back to 2.2 and use one of the rooting methods, because none of them will work an Android 2.3.

I've heard that some, but very few people, have been able to do it by running an RUU back to stock. There has to be a reason why some have been able to downgrade, but not others. It seems that if the phone has never been rooted, then it cannot be done (downgraded or rooted). That may be because the bootloader is S-ON.

My question is, if the phone was previously rooted, then unrooted, then updated to Android 2.3, if the phone is somehow downgraded using an RUU, is it only because the phone is still S-OFF, or some other reason?

I already know how to root it if the phone is still S-OFF and was updated to 2.3. The question is still, if the phone is successfully downgraded using an RUU back to Android 2.2 stock (with hopes of rerooting), is it because the bootloader is still S-OFF?

These questions are really more to help others than they are for me because too many people are trying unsuccessfully to downgrade their phone in the hopes of rerooting. If there are no good answers, then obviously downgrading will not be the route to take.

(AND YES, MOST OF THEM SHOULD NOT HAVE UNROOTED, but everyone makes mistakes.)
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Good question but its posted like a million times with no definitive answer. And yes alooooooot of people have made mistakes...lol

Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Yes, they are only able to downgrade because their phone is already unlocked with s-off.

Its really a waste of time tbh, all you have to do is flash a recovery and you're done.
[EVO 4G General] kleintools:
How would I flash the recovery?
[EVO 4G General] fenixjn:
Look on the dev forum for RA recovery or clockwork recovery. Both of them include a way to flash them via bootloader menu on the evo.
[EVO 4G General] k2buckley:
Only if its S off
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsungepicgeek:
Does anybody know any good free games with good graphics like gun bros or pocket legends, and i dont mean games like tetris.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raymond4:
Have you played ninjump it is a pretty cool game
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shoulon:
where's the autoconvert IPA to APK program? =(

apple has toooo many app dev's...

But uhm, I like game dev story.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xopher.hunter:
Racing: jetcar stunts, need for speed shift

First person shooter: modern combat 1 and 2, nova 1 and 2

Flying: skies of glory, x plane 9

These are some impressive 3d games all are paid apps but the first person shooters except mc2 hve to be bought from gameloft. Happy gaming :-) oh and there's a workaround for tegra 2 games too since our gpu rocks

Edit: just noticed you said free games I think only jetcar has a free version sorry
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] || Acer ||:
Some Tegra 2 Games:

Fruit Ninja THD

Pinball HD for Tegra

Backbreaker HD (works for some)

Guerilla Bob THD

Samurai II: Vengeance

Other good games:

Age Of Zombies

Plants Vs. Zombies

Bomb Toss

Cordy

Flight Control

Horror Run

Mega Jump

Robotek HD

Robot Unicorn Attack

SpeedX 3D

Turbo Granny

Gameloft Games

Asphalt 6

N.O.V.A.

Modern Combat

Modern Combat: Black Pegasus

N.O.V.A. 2 (think that's Xperia play only; don't have that one)

Uno

Assassins' creed

Eternal Legacy

Dungeon Hunter 2

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction

Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X.

Source: My phone, LOL (well, not all but most!!)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maldito.boss:
I bought the asphalt6 and can't even play it it fc after the video and I.can't.even get my money back now cuz it took me long enought just to download it
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] || Acer ||:
That's a shame...it's a great game. Try re-downloading it maybe?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ceelos09:
I actually have N.O.V.A. 2 installed and running on my Epic. The only problem I have is that every time u leave the screen idle for about 10 sec, ur screen automatically goes into sleep mode, then u have to re-wake phone and the game reboots back up, which isn't a real problem like FC or something like that but still, very annoying :\ games great overall tho :D
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xopher.hunter:
I tried nova 2 and refunded it when I noticed it was a little laggy in combat compared to the original nova
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kobby2k6:
- Mordern combat 2 (market) is a great game and the multiplayer is awesome (once you get the hang of it)

- Spiderman total mayhem(gameloft)...great graphics and fun game..

- samurai vengeance 2 (android market if you have chainfire 3d) great game with great graphics p.s. there is a version of it online somewhere which works on all phones without chainfire3d...google is your best friend

- Bruce Lee (?? chainfire 3d with qualcomm plugin)...looks good and fun but a bit repetitive

- PES2011 (market)...great game for soccer fans...wish it had multiplayer...lets go barcelona lol...

_ Asphalt 6 (Market) a bit laggy in the menus but gameplay is smooth

p.s. all paid apps btw
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adoniscomplex87:
Try the keepawake widget by bk thong from android market. 1 touch and your screen won't sleep. 1 touch to deactivate. Plain, simple, effective.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] androidmonkey:
Is there current support or plans to support XVID and MKV files natively? Ive tried the "Rock Player" and its not very reliable.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Crimton:
mobo player plays avi's very well no jerkiness at all. it plays mkv's pretty well also. as far as natively, i have no clue...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] logic88:
I thought it was established that high profile H264 MKVs (pretty much 90% of what's floating out there) didn't play well on the TF101 because of the Tegra 2's shortcomings?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Magnesus:
In 3.1 some of them play but with limited frame rate.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] acid123:
I was hoping for the same thing all the 720p files I have don't work,

It doesn't even see them as a video file,

Bit gutted that I have to convert them,

Strangely the Archos 101 plays all of them fine without any issues,

So not sure what the issue is or if it is codec related as the arches does have a archos cinema plugin installed..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] blackbozo:
I tried moboplayer and rockplayer at first. And i managed to play MKV's smoothly, but only when started from the gallery. When I open the same mkv directly from moboplayer or rockplayer the movie didn't play smooth at all. So I tried mVideoPlayer. After i installed mVideoPlayer my mkv's play smooth anyway I open them. The best part is that the stockplayer plays MKV's as well (but dosn't have support for subtitles).

But the main problem is that most mkv's have 5.1 sound, this is not supported, you can convert the soundtrack with mkvavi2mp4 or convert the whole movie with handbrake (takes a lot longer).
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Ok, one gold star to whoever finds the problem here..
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Try clearing market cache and is that app compatible with the firmware you're using.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Will do and yes. But some install and some don't no matter what firmware
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
No luck
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crawler9:
Also try clearing market data with Titanium if you can. I've noticed that sometimes clearing the data from the built in app manager doesn't work right.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Lets see if I can download titanium :P
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Nope didn't work. I was just curious if there was a file I could edit
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Goto the market through your computers browser , and login to Google account, then download the app from their and choose to send it to your phone.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
For titanium or always?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kimbernator:
just titanium
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silentsnow31802:
I get that error sometimes too. Just try to install it again. Mine takes a couple tries sometimes but it will always eventually install.

Sent from Royal Glacier 2.1 powered HTC MyTouch4G using XDA App.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicgraner:
Thanks ace ill try that
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
A few of my contacts have the + sign in front of their numbers even though in their contact card it does not show up. I'm not able to make a call to those contacts unless I physically type their numbers into the phone dialer.

No matter how many times I edit the contact and change the number format the + still shows up. Thanks for any answers in advance.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
Nevermind, I had to erase and re add the contacts with the + on them. worked fine afterward. Mods please delete post unless you feel it may help others.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] whitesox311:
Why is there never been the ability to change the native resolution in an android rom? What hindrance to we android users have over a windows PC user who can change his resolution in the control panel?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spider210:
This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but

Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)

Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.

Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...

Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sic_lic1o1:
I just recieved another transformer from amazon today too. I sent the other one back and purchased this one. Both of the transformers have the same light bleeding like what you have. The one i just recieved today has a lil more light bleeding than the one i sent back. I'm keeping this one. Not going to send it back anymore.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ravynmagi:
That looks pretty bad. I have some backlight bleeding, but I have to go out of my way to see it (max out the brightness in a dark room).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ravynmagi:
Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.

The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!

This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spider210:
already requested to ship back to amazon... this sucks!!! but when trying to watch a movie the bleed is horrible.

I wish my original one from walmart didn't have a short in the screen (as you moved it the screen would turn on and off) because that one was otherwise perfect 100% no screen bleeding even on 100% brightness!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spider210:
I'd return that. That looks horrid. You pay for something and expect to be flawless. Now I mean if this was on display and someone tried to sell you it, you wouldn't have bought it if it came with that flaw now would you.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ravynmagi:
Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.

I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Thremix:
Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ravynmagi:
I understand. But it seems like my odds of getting a defect free tablet may be higher with some manufactures than others.

My iPad was perfectly fine, first try. I've had two Xooms, both were perfect pieces of hardware (just too heavy and too expensive). My luck hasn't been as good with ASUS though.

Problem is both of the tablets I want seem to have manufacturing problems. I like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too (though the lack of micro SD is why I bought the Transformer). But even Samsung seems to be having manufacturing problems with theirs too. Seems like far too many Google IO owners have their glass popping out of their bezel. Ugh. And it's looking like the production Wifi model has this issue too.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] h00ligan:
Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Ravynmagi:
XDA seems to really hate Android browsers. Haha. Opera Mini works MUCH better here though.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] h00ligan:
I thought I'd post a sample of the light bleed vs iPad 2. Both at 100% which frankly I'd never use this dark. However, the other shot is 50%.

I kept them small rather than two megs each. IMHO neither is acceptable at the price point. The tf changes with pressure the iPad 2 doesn't. The transformer is worse.

I have bad luck with screens. Also there are about ten stuck pixels seen on a black screen, I'm sure more if I run the color range.

Would you keep it? Don't think I will be. :/ and the iPad is getting exchanged.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] vukis:
O.K. mine issues:

Light bleeds on bottom right and right side of screen (on bottom left there is not such bleed as on picture this is kind of photo rendering issue)

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7805/32268220.jpg

Two defective spots of pixels on dark screen only

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3120/22912128.jpg

Zoomed defective pixels..

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7434/72512206.jpg

But I notice this in only %1 in my daily use, because I am not using it in dark room on dark screen at full brightness :D

What bothers me more is speaker disbalance (right is normal left is only 30% as loud as right). But if I have to wait for RMA I won`t take it to RMA because I just love it too much and don`t want to wait for stupid RMA.. Maybe I will give it to RMA after 23 months (in Lithuania there is 2 Year warranty)

BTW I contacted seller and waiting for answer and if they will not exchange it i will live with these issues :)

P.S. speaker test:

[YOUTUBE]AmQfM1k9-pg[/YOUTUBE]
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spider210:
yah i noticed thatpressure on the back increasesthe bleeding but my photo was with no pressure. And dam this site lags on this transformer.

Still returning...sadly
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spider210:
just received my 3rd one in today. few dead pixels throughout the screen and then one big area that is washed out about the size of my thumb.

amazon refused to exchange this one and now says i have to go through asus. BULLSH**
[Eee Pad Transformer General] expd408:
i have to return mine due to the backlight as well, its got a bleed that seems like its getting worse every day.

also from amazon! i really dont want to send it back either
[Eee Pad Transformer General] cdpriest:
If you go to the bottom of the page on this site there is a arrow down box that says XDA 2010, switch it to XDA Classic and the website runs really smooth then. ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] h00ligan:
thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] madsquabbles:
this is exactly how my current (3rd) is. the other two had bleed, but not as defined as this one's is. the others were more diffused.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spider210:
yah returned the 3rd one. amazon refuses to send me another one. says its likely to be DOA based on my past experience... wtf...
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SimpTheChimp:
My wife's Eris has a strange Facebook issue. I factory-reset the Eris for her because it was acting strangely and was very slow. I then reloaded her software and things seemed to work better - except for Facebook. (I loaded the latest version onto her Eris).

The problem seems to be syncing her status comments/updates to her friends news feeds/pages. She will post something from her phone, and it will show up on HER news page, but not on any one of her friends. But if she does the exact same thing from her main computer (web Facebook) it posts fine. So it seems to only be occurring when it is sent from her phone. I uninstalled the new version and reverted back to the old Facebook version that came with with the Eris (the latest OTA ROM version issued to the Eris) and lo and behold that version posted her status updates fine to both her new pages and her friends. So I have to believe it is something with the latest Facebook version and her Eris; or is because something is not set right on the Eris. The latest Facebook app runs fine on my Incredible...

Any ideas on this? Needless to say my wife is frustrated; and she can't get a new phone till October.

Thanks for any advice.

/Tom
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
This may ****brick your phone******

0riginal link to topic http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1032212

i have managed to install this and boot into the bootmenu, the screen is distorted tho so cant see what the menus actually are.

install apk from market called "defy 2ndinit" open app and install the bootmenu, it will pull files from the net to install.

there will be a blue led on at all times aswell even when phone is booted normally

power off phone

plug charger in

you will see distorted bootmenu

hope someone can fix the distortion

edit: you can uninstall using the app with no side effects
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rozzco:
This thread has several versions of the app attached as apk's. Maybe this will help someone. ;)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
same link i posted m8 :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rozzco:
DOH!

10char
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
what am finding is whatever rom.zip i make, no matter what files i use, i always get stuck on the M sign

maybe coz i not connecting with the 2nd init i dunno, at least if this app worked proper for atrix then i can set 2ndinit in the bootmenu and hopefully rom will boot
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
if you dont install CWM and only this, when power off phone, plug charger in, you get a nice battery icon with percentage for abit, when disappears just press volume button to see the battery and percentage again
[Atrix 4G Android Development] tsouza:
You know that this battery icon is from the stock rom, right?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
ohhh lol never seen it before hahaha
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
For me it doesnt show if i dont put in charge mode, so that is new in my atrix, it recharging the same way my dext do
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
will my green lwd be turned on forever now?

edit: my phone doesnt boot, thanks for telling us that this could happen dude!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] LordOfTheSnatch:
If you didn't know it may brick your phone, you probably had no business trying it in the first place. Btw, OP really doesn't help us get any closer to bringing over ROMs. This is a defy app and hasn't been reworked for the Atrix yet. It is probably something edgan needs to incorporate, but I would stay away from this.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] henrys01:
This is the "development" forum. This is not stable code. Try re-flashing an SBF file.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
when you say you tested it, you say waht MAY happen also, i reflashed the sbf service file, but man, you dont really know how to post stuff, you always says it can be harmfull, if you dont, that means it works a 100%, but thats ok, nothing i dont fixed with 20 minutes

ps:by the way it may not work on retail(and maybe on all) brazillian system

it enters in the second init, but system do not allow to boot the official because of it, to get this being used we need to have a custom ROM able to boot using it

edit:

henrys01 do you already saw one single forum "stable rom"? ROMs, recoveries and all that kind of thing are always in development, even stable!

stevendeb25 sorry for that, rage attack =( it dont worked, i already explained why

LordOfTheSnatch i came for this since the first ROM to motorola dext, if i did that, i know the harms, but yeah, lets stay out of this while doesnt have one made or ported for atrix

dont get me wrong, but im pissed now, one of the things is because it doesnt worked, sorry for anything
[Atrix 4G Android Development] CaelanT:
YOU should know that ANY time you put a non stock file on your device you have a chance of breaking/bricking it!

The disclaimers are for stupid people who think that .................... oh, wait..........err...............sorry!!!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
CaelanT when i used to do that kind of thing in the dext, that never happened, motorola is really f.....g us up in this phone...=(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] JayRolla:
I think you should blame yourself, you should know better. He said it works with bugs. I would think next time before you act.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
Sorry guys. I did test. I did explain what bugs.

I installed. Uninstalled

I thought everyone knew that stuff in development area could *brick* phone
[Atrix 4G Android Development] lostinbeta:
Everyone who knows what they are doing knows it can brick your phone, especially when it isn't made for your phone. The other people just get what's coming to them for doing stuff they don't understand without researching first.

First rule of flashing.... IT MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. Even if it is stable.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] henrys01:
The OP linked to a thread for a completely different phone. Did you honestly think it was going to work 100% on every atrix device? Use your head!

*Disclaimer, doesn't work on brazil phones courtesy of guidoido004 :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Whipon:
WTF???

Can you please explain what is the point of this thread?.

You just linked to a topic with an app for another phone that doesn't do anything usefull.

What's the point?. Does this contribute anything?.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] guidoido004:
i tested in 2 sbfs, the original from claro and the retail, it dont get boot in the system after reboots

so lets forget my rage attack and focus on this:we need a bootable ROM to use it, having it, it will work(in theory of course), also need to have menus fixed, just like stevendeb25 told

theres already a 2nd init(its BETA) working for atrix, lets focus in it, and do our best to get free from motorola locks

AND SORRY FOR THAT, WAS A RAGE ATTACK! i have to rewrite all my build.prop and redownload all my data from the internal memory(games, apps, etc:4.7GB), thats why i got in that way...please sorry for my behavior, i do this kind of thing 1 time a month =(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] stevendeb25:
Was hoping someone with bit knowledge could play about with. Seeming it works for me on my phone. Lol i git no idea when it comes to actually source

I can port and i am trying for a first custom rom

This bootmenu seems needed for some reason
[Atrix 4G Android Development] brandon15811:
Could someone post a picture of what the menu looks like when it doesnt work?