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[Droid Incredible General] SteveG12543:
Thats while using Wi-Fi lol. It doesn't work like this over just 3G.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.0.3.
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
I wasn't expecting a single response! Haha.

The HTC rep. specified that it was the Incredible. I honestly do not know how they are going to work this out.
[Droid Incredible General] refthemc:
I would think it was for the Inc2, I doubt Inc1 has the Hardware to do it. Feel lazy to research but I swear I remember reading TBolt was the first with the Hardware to support it.
[Droid Incredible General] renzo.olivares:
Yup he meant the inc2 only cdma/gsm phones have data/talk capability and the inc2 is one of them the thunderbolt is also on of them since it runs on a cdma netowrk but 4g lte is gsm technology the OG Inc is pure cdma
[Droid Incredible General] bbeelzebub:
It has nothing to do with CDMA or LTE per se.

Verizon has always used EV-DO. The evolution of that is SVDO which is a single pipe for Voice and Data. Qualcomm did not make chips that supported that until the MSM series of chips. They stated that all MSM chips in 2009 forward would support SVDO.

Go on Wikipedia and it lists all the Qualcomm chips and shows which phones use which chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
[Droid Incredible General] fpatano:
According to the specifications of the Incredible the processor is "Qualcomm® QSD8650, 1GHz Snapdragon™" per http://www.htc.com/us/products/droid-incredible-verizon#tech-specs, so the hardware according to that assumption, MSM chips are SVDO capable is not valid. That same Wikipedia page states that the MSM7630 chip in the Shift 4G has SVDO capabilities, not the Incredible.

So, even though I would love for simultaneous voice/data on my Dinc, alas I dont think its true.

Cheers!

:(
[Droid Incredible General] demarcmj:
Hadn't thought of that. I guess the "couple of months" that I was taking about is when I started leaving wifi on 24/7 because it improves my gps accuracy. I guess I never noticed that the simultaneous talk and data only works in my apartment (if I had, I would've figured out the culprit)

Well don't I feel silly :p
[Droid Incredible General] setexascustoms:
Well I'm running the leaked radio and I can tell you that I absolutely do not have simultaneous voice and data.:rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible General] punman:
If it weren't for the bloatware I wouldn't mind running on the new Sense stock. As it stands now, I'll just wait for the ROM devs to pick up the new stock stuff and incorporate it.
[Droid Incredible General] Delacombo:
I've surfed the web and talked on the phone at the same time for awhile now... :confused:
[Droid Incredible General] SteveG12543:
As I said earlier in this thread, while on Wi-Fi it is possible, but not over just 3G.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.0.3.
[Droid Incredible General] razor2006:
So flash it and use Titanium Backup to freeze all of the bloat. That's what I did. Been happily running it since the day it leaked.
[Droid Incredible General] dale386:
well, now verizon will know exactly which leaky employee to fire when they come across this post.
[Droid Incredible General] dpwhitty11:
lol. its verizon, not apple :P
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
Talked to my dad again today. He said something to the effect of CDMA as we know it will be changing. More tomorrow. I am tired as balls.
[Droid Incredible General] Incredible_Infern0:
Kinda wished I waited now to root my phone. :eek:
[Droid Incredible General] bigsapz:
Lol! Me 2

Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible
[Droid Incredible General] Ricbon:
if this is all true....then man my droid inc just got a resuscitation for few more months. Nothing out there has WOWED me like the original dinc!!
[Droid Incredible General] davwman:
does it really do well in the battery dept.?
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
Not at all.
[Droid Incredible General] Neomastermind:
So 720p recording will be coming to the roms soon. Cool.
[Droid Incredible General] GabeM:
Thanks for the update. Looking really forward to having both Talk/Data at same time and GB... Can't Wait!!!!!
[Droid Incredible General] pastalero:
It's the custom GB kernels that I'm itching for
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
EXACTLY. Droid 2 just got Gingerbread, so they are indeed rolling out the OS for newer phones that didn't have it stock. As far as the Network Changes, I am curious as to how or IF it will happen.

SOURCE: droid-life.com
[Droid Incredible General] jeffsu28:
upgraded version of sense would be nice...
[Droid Incredible General] ezegm:
If they'd have to remove apps from the Gingerbread update for the Desire, they'll have to do the same thing for the Incredible. I'll be glad if that happens. It's almost July and I'm sure we're close.
[Droid Incredible General] pastalero:
I'm sure that it is on the way in next few weeks,I'm really happy with business gingersense

and am getting up to 170mb free RAM. It's not as good as some of the aosp or optimized sense roms but it still its nice. Methinks that HTC still has a few tricks up their sleeve and the stock gingersense for the DI will have somee stuff out of left field
[Droid Incredible General] brownsfan:
A couple of tweets

TeamAndIRC ✔ jcase

cougnincgbcough

TeamAndIRC ✔ jcase

Looks like OTAs for Fascinate, inc, inc2, and thunderbolt are on the loading dock
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
What does this mean?
[Droid Incredible General] kazheeizm:
YEAH this sounds good!

the simultaneous 3G data and phone call will be possible because of radio update?

if we flash new radio, should we re-inject our number into handset? i'm currently using stock froyo radio and gingerbread rom.
[Droid Incredible General] SteveG12543:
Its hardware, not software, thats limiting us, or thats what I gathered from the last page or so.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.0.3.
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
When?
[Droid Incredible General] cleveratticus:
Seems to be the issue. Yet, it could just be a new revision of the network, unrelated to LTE. Maybe something hidden in our phones?
[Droid Incredible General] bradsinram:
I think we all hope Verizon or htc hid something better in our phones that no one knows about yet but deep down know its not happening
[Droid Incredible General] taurusclimber:
This would be nice. There have been several times that I've needed to use the map while I was trying to give directions to someone.
[Droid Incredible General] fpatano:
I think we may all be a little thick and not realize what is the one thing that would make simultaneous voice and data possible on these chipsets.

Voice over 3G.

Wasn't it the plan to phase out 1x move voice over to 3g once lte lit up?

Here's me hoping.

Sent from my brain using Telekinesis.
[Droid Incredible General] fpatano:
alla : http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...ice-and-data-over-3g-cdma-on-htc-thunderbolt/

What if this were enabled for more than just the tBolt? What if the HTC handsets that cleveraticus was talking about have chipsets that supports it, like the Dinc?

New life into my Dinc.
[Droid Incredible General] ezegm:
So the Evo Shift 4G is getting Gingerbread right now, does that mean well get it within the next few weeks?
[Droid Incredible General] upihebring:
ah i hope so

but it doesn't matter since we have many GB Custom ROM for Incredible :)

but a leaked one is good too for development, i guess
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] gogol:
Hi,

Can you use the wall charger from the Galaxy Tab 7" ?

Please if you have both devices to try it.

I would like to import this new 10.1" to Europe, The Netherlands.

And I am wondering the wall charger requirements.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] snoopstah:
I would also be interested to know if the charging cable is compatible between the original Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] NeutronBomb:
Yes it works. I'm using my cable that came with my 10.1 to keep plugged into my PC and I'm currently charging my 10.1 on the cable that came with my 7. It went from 0 to 50% so far no problems. Not sure if it charges any faster/slower than the one that came with it but I'd assume they are the same.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] gogol:
Thanks, so I can order NL gt 7 charger for my US gt 10.1 for use here in NL.

Sweeettt ... :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] snoopstah:
Thanks for that. Picked up a couple of genuine Samsung chargers from Tesco in the UK for £4.97 each (reduced from something like £40!). Potential UK buyers might want to grab a spare while they can!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] figurine:
i think he was saying that the cable will work. The charger might not. I was trying to use my cable with other USB wall chargers but the device won't charge on them... my guess is because they are less than 2ah. I would make sure the specs on the tab 7 charger match up to the 10.1 charger to be safe
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] snoopstah:
The Galaxy Tab charger I picked up today is rated at 2A so it should be OK, with any luck!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] madsquabbles:
cable and charger both work. both chargers are 5v 2A. one reason why it charges slower than the xoom and tf.

on the upside it does trickle charge via standard usb. my tf won't and of course my ex xoom wouldn't.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] figurine:
Sweet, i'm gonna have to pick one of these up then
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] ipatella:
Wow, those chargers are expensive on amazon. Does anyone know where to get cheap ones?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] figurine:
Ebay is probably the best place for all things cheap, unless you're wanting a samsung branded charger
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] meeekael:
Haven't checked for the exact right one but dealextreme.com has been the best in the past for misc electronics cheap.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] rainby:
good to know that. like many android gadgets, once you have it, next natural thing is to put several chargers in several places.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] gogol:
Probably if anyone can post photo / link to the gt tab 7 charger?

So, we all know what to look for specific.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] ghylton:
I hate how you can't just plug it into any usb. I have usb adapters everywhere and it would be nice if I could charge it while plugged into my computer
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
I posted this in another thread, but with these adapters, you can charge off ANY USB port;

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330565218553&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123

I've bought two, leave one at home and the other comes travelling with me.

I also use a few third party cables designed for the original Galaxy Tab and they work fine. So happy to be able to charge my 10.1v anywhere :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] madsquabbles:
it does, but it seems like 1% per 3 min. just plug it in and see. it's the only honeycomb tablet that i've had that actually does charge via usb (xoom, tf, and gt101). the tf doesn't, but i'm sure it would if i had usb 3.0.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] vansmack:
Thanks for this! I saw your other post and went ebay chasing, but the link made it much easier...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
I really want a wall charger I can throw in my flight bag. Anyone have one they've found on eBay that charges the Tab 10.1? I really don't want to drop $40 for the OEM, ouch!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
Seriously, why not buy one of the adapters that I posted about and use any charger you want? I think I paid about $7 Australian for two and now I can keep using all of the USB wall and car chargers I have amassed over the years owning Win Mobile and Android phones :)

If your heart is really set on buying a proper wall charger, if it says it will charge a Galaxy Tab (original) or iPad, it should charge the 10.1
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
Sorry that's kinda a silly response. Why would I order something from Australia? And why would I order a patchwork charger? Common sense. I know you guys are always upside down down there, but comon, haha. :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
I'm not selling it. It's from Hong Kong.

Don't know what you mean by patchwork charger either. It's not a charger, it's a small adapter.

Anyway, I answered your question. Buy a P1000 charger if you can't see the sense (and even go so far as to consider it "silly") in being able to use any charger you like, including every USB port on every PC and the USB ports you find on airplanes these days, then yeah, common sense eh?

Guess that's what I get for trying to be helpful.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
I'm happy with a cheap Chinese plug but I just want an all in one wall to tab cheaply charger.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
Take your pick;

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R...&_nkw=p1000+charger&_sacat=See-All-Categories
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
Thanks! Will they all work fine? I see some users say non galaxy chargers don't have 2.0amp to power it. Thanks :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
For example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-GALAXY-...Accessories&hash=item336782bb0c#ht_3036wt_870

Shows 800mah which per earlier comments won't work with the Tab 10.1... because it requires 2 amp
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
If you'll note that I have been saying that with the adapter I am using, I can charge off ANYTHING regardless of the output amperage. This is because it is not a matter of how many amps it outputs, but a pin arrangement. I have 2A chargers that will not charge my 10.1v without using the adapter.

The official charger swaps a couple of pins around that puts the device in charge mode. The standard cable is set to data mode. So when you plug the standard data cable into any charger, even 2A chargers, that do not have the USB pins rearranged to be in charge mode, it simply will not charge.

If you buy an all in one unit, it should already have the pins set to trigger charge mode in the device. If it charges the Galaxy Tab P1000, it will charge a 10.1 P7510 or 10.1v P7100.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] gordita:
Thank you for a very informative post!

I've sent you a PM asking you in detail about this adapter.

I would appreciate if you can respond to it. Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
You're welcome gordita, I've replied to your PM, but I thought I should share a part of it here for everyone else;

A quick note on using the adapter. It has a switch on it that allows you to go from charge to data mode as you please. To successfully transition from one mode to the other, you must disconnect the cable, either from PC or the tablet, flick the switch, then reconnect. This will make the tablet change modes.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] Ravynmagi:
Trying to decide if I want to spend $10 on this adapter or $35 for a OEM cable/charger.

I imagine the charging with the adapter from a 0.5A USB port is still going to be pretty slow versus the 2A charger.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
I'd imagine the OEM will charge 4x quicker, hehe, just a guess tho. I never was good @ Math. hehe.

Don't forget the OEM comes with world travel plugs too, so it's of huge benefit. What if you want to travel without your laptop? I like the versatility of the OEM for charging a $600 item, haha
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] Mr Global:
I found this base dock cradle charger for the P1000 on ebay.

It looks like it would work for the GalaxyTab 10.1. What do you think?

(I cant post outside links yet, but search ebay for:

"NEW SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB P1000 Base Dock Cradle Charger"
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
I just don't trust a $15 china-model accessory when the OEM is available for $30 and fully supports the device's size and protects the port.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] vansmack:
If it charges the P1000, it will charge the device, but my only concern is the thickness of the 7 inch tab (0.47'") vs the thinness of the 10.1 (0.34") - you may have to put a small spacer or something between the dock and the back of the tab, otherwise you maybe asking just the microUSB plug to support the device and I don't like the prospects of that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SAMSUNG-GAL...ccessories&hash=item1e644dd1f7#ht_4055wt_1139
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
$600 device plus $60 case... is it really that big of a deal to add $15 more to the price of the dock and buy the Samsung Original? lol

Never amazes me how cheap people can be... it's like when people buy Mercedes and then go to to Sears and have them put on the cheapest tires they sell.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] vansmack:
Take a deep breath...you don't have to comment on every post.

I didn't make a recommendation, I simply answered his question, which was will this device work for the 10.1?

And the answer is yes, though the fit might not be ideal.

Relax.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
As our neighbors to the south say... Lo barato sale caro
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] skins2win:
I just really want a long cable so I can charge my tablet while relaxing on my couch or bed for that matter.

The Xoom charger we freaking awesome! I can't believe Samsung went cheap on the cable like all apple products! So upset about it.:confused::mad:

Do you guys know where I can get just the cable, I have like a hundred usb wall plugs, just need the cable.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NSI-USB-2-0-Mal...ultDomain_0&hash=item483ca690f9#ht_2120wt_843
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] skins2win:
It worked but only when i used the wall adaptor which came with Samsung.

Ain't that some ish.

I wonder if these cables another member mentioned earlier will work on the tab or not.

USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
The tab is designed to detect 2mah and the pin config of the OEM charger.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
No, it is not designed to detect 2mah as I've said a couple of times already. Just the pin configuration.

It is slower off USB, but it charges pretty quickly, faster with the screen off.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
OK seriously. Do you understand basic math? If so, do the math on how long it would take to charge a 7000mah battery with a 800 mah charger (hint: almost 9 hours).... there's a reason why Samsung uses a 2amp charger... and you keep trying to push your agenda of that godd@mn dongle cable that you seriously must work for the company who makes it because you've gotten beyond annoying about pushing it. You pushed it... we get it, you don't mind carrying 6 pieces to do the job of 1, and you don't mind having to piece a solution together. And your silliness about "it's so vesatile, just plug into any wall charger" ... well that kinda negates the purpose if you have to go buy a 2mah wall charger for optimal charging anyhow.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
Ok firstly I have first hand experience of charging the 10.1v off USB and you don't.

The reason Samsung uses a 2A output charger is so that the Tab charges quickly. That is implied and we all know that. I think there are people here who appreciate the versatility and just because you do not, does not mean I should not advise anyone of the option.

I'm not trying to push any agenda, just correcting your misinformation. If I see you type something that is absolutely incorrect, I will correct it for the sake of other users on the forum.

I carry the data cable and the adapter with me and that is it. Exactly the same number of pieces that you get from Samsung out of the box.

And don't tell me to stop posting here. I have the same right to post that you do and I've been a member here way longer than you have.

There are people here, like myself who have gone through many HTC devices that come with USB wall chargers that output 1A and being able to use hardware we already have is extremely useful even if you can't seem to grasp this. I haven't had to buy a 2A wall charger, as I've said, my 10.1v chargers just fine off all the chargers I have access to.

I even told you what to look for if you want an all in one - why the hell are you attacking me?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
Doesn't make it any more adequate because you do it. 0.5 amps is a quarter of the power of the OEM wall plug... don't act like it's a reasonable way to do it when it takes 9 hours to charge via USB.

And you've contributed a whopping 71 posts in 5 years.

That's fine, and a Turkey will cook in the oven just fine at 200 degrees Fahrenheit, you'll just have to cook it for 3 days. Doesn't make the process any less ridiculous.

I know what to look for... and I just think it's important people realize that charging off USB or using a 800mah charger is going to take forever. For most, they don't realize how huge the battery is and that USB will only output a fraction of the power of a wall plug. If you want to do it, that's fine, but don't discourage others into using non-official charging mechanisms which will take them all day to charge and expect me not to add the tip that a OEM charger works 4X faster.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
Generally, when I contribute, I contribute well and don't attack anyone or just reply for the sake of replying. You also have no idea what happens over PM. I'm not trying to get status by replying to every post I see when I have nothing constructive to contribute.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from doing anything. You seem to think it is ridiculous to charge the 10.1 off anything less than 2A, but you would be completely wrong. Charging off 2A is very fast and I use it myself when I don't have much time to charge or my battery is low. However, my battery rarely gets below 70-60%, so I don't need to do the whole hog 2A.

Having the 10.1v constantly connected to my PC when charging is extremely convenient too as I can switch over to data mode very simply.

That said, charging off 1A or even 0.5A is just fine too, even if you think it is not. I've been using this adapter for a month now, it's been great and no matter what exaggeration or extremely poor analogy you want to try to concoct doesn't change that.

Anyway, I never said your preference was invalid, I just said that there are other options. Please calm down, stop with the exaggerations, misinformation and attempts at ridicule and just accept that people have different opinions to you.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] ipatella:
Guys can we stop the nonsense. Look you're both right, no one is wrong in this situation.

RaindancerAU - I see the value in your adapter. Personally, I can see myself charging my tab overnight and it not mattering how quick I get to 100%, just as long as I get there while I'm asleep (in ~7 hours). Plus it gives me a sense of ease that I'm not hurting my battery and overcharging my device. In addition to this I can use my sibling's or girlfriend's Android chargers, with the premise that something is better than nothing.

bella92108- I agree with you also, I think that buying OEM stuff is important and 20 bucks now wont make that big of a difference down the road especially considering how much these tablets cost. Plus when charging your tab during the day, I would want it charging as fast as possible and the 2a vs 1a would make a considerable difference.

As an outsider trying to be subjective, you both make valid points. It's just personal preference. Now stop with the arguing!!!:)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] RaindancerAU:
For the record, I never said that using the official charger nor buying one for that matter was worthless, I even said I use it myself.

I just wanted to make it clear that you can charge these devices on less than 2A and that it is not a worthless endeavour.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] bella92108:
Worthless, hehe