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[HD2 General] Hazeno:
Hey there guys once again. Ive scrapped my other threads about trying to upgrade to Wp7 NoDO. And now im running into a HUGE problem.

On the downgrade from HSPL to SPL and Stock ROM. I came across the fact my insurance replacement is a GERMAN phone. All via the help desk of HTC.com's Phone support. Which is funny since when i get the phone replaced via my insurance it was on 3.14 or so , WWE not GER.

So the short story is , Ive gone back to stock , And HAD to use a GER Rom , Which in all honesty is absolutely daft. I cant read it? I cant do anything with it :s

Also the USB part of the Phone ONLY accepts Charge , No Data. So its proving difficult to do anything about. So heres my question to you smart guys @ XDA D.

1) Changing the ROM to a WWE Version without the use of USB Data : Is it possible?

2)Getting it to a Later ROM Or at least a working 'English' ROM so i can use it until december? Or even so i can send it to Tmobile for a fix.

3)Do i just 'lose' the phone on purpose and claim on the insurance 'yet again' and bin this absolute PIECE.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591314 , that shows it CAN be done , but requires the use of the Data portion lol!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
goldcard..
[HD2 General] Hazeno:
Yes but doesnt that require you being able to use your USB Data part of the USB port? I unfortunately cant.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
not if you have either a pci card reader, (many are internally mounted to usb headers on your motherboard, , these wont work, they return the ID for the usb header, not the attached card) or best of all, any other winmo phone with an sd card slot, , you only need it for 5 mins, so if you have a friend with ANY winmo phone, or, many laptops (but by no means all) have a pci mounted card reader, then you're good to go at making a goldcard.
[HD2 General] Hazeno:
Ive obviously got a card reader. But all the laptops i have here with Card readers are dead in the water atm :( ( PC repairman by trade ) I was going to attempt this http://www.nazriawang.com/2010/04/how-to-create-goldcard-with-ubuntu.html , Just unsure on how well it will work. The other unfortunate problem. Ive converted ALL my friends to either HTC's with Android or WP7.

Any nice link on creating a gold card? Other than the one i searched and posted in my original post?
[HD2 General] silverwind:
Try this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825397

Goodluck :)
[HD2 General] Hazeno:
Again this requires the use of the USB Portion of the phone which i dont have.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
That link is for android phones,just cos the hd2 runs android, it is still a windows phone.(same goes for the webpage many people keep mentioning that offers free goldcards,,, they're for Droid and wp7,,,)

Once you figure out how to get the serial, pm it me with an email address and I'll generate the image for you.

http://samsamuel.co.uk/news.php?id=8

Will show you how to write the image, but you are stuck till you get the serial. Any friend good enough to let you backup their android rom and flash back to winmo temporarily? That's ten thousand times easier than any other way of getting the serial.
[HTC EVO 3D] jblazea50:
Evo 3D for $50 with Evo 4G trade at Target

Not sure if this has been posted, but Target seems to have a good deal if you are trading in your Evo 4G for the Evo 3D. They will give you credit for $150 towards the purchase of Evo 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] SayWhat10:
so how much is the phone?

whats the net price after the $150 discount?(didnt say in the article)

im not up for an upgrade, but now trying to pay $700 outright for a cellphone
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I.hope this is true and applies to contract extensions..they will get my business is this is the case..
[HTC EVO 3D] jblazea50:
Not sure how much off contract, but if it's anything like best buy, then it'll be around $600.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
hey FYI I wasn't up for an upgrade either ..there is a thread titled absolutely fantastic customer service from sprint..there is a phone # i called it up asked for a upgrade and got it..simple as that..and its worked for a lot of ppl...I was as year out of a upgrade so give it a shot b4 paying the full 500 retail
[HTC EVO 3D] slayer69:
I can second this.....if you are up for the half upgrade find that post and call that number. I got both my lines upgraded to a full upgrade and have only been on Sprint for a year.
[HTC EVO 3D] Vegasden:
Check out the Radio Shack site... their ad says $500 with no activation. (If they give you the $100 trade-in ....$400?)

.....
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
so all the diff buyback programs why dont people do the sprint buyback program evo is 150 as well and it goes to your sprint account and all that has to be done is order the phone online/via phone through sprint charge it to your bill and send your old phone in.

https://secure2.sprintbuyback.com/consumer/
[HTC EVO 3D] mevensen:
Good tip.

Combined with the Premier customer early purchase offer, I think this might be the way to go.
[HTC EVO 3D] crownholder:
Nevermind............
[HTC EVO 3D] jblazea50:
Problem with this that it takes 3 billing cycle if you send your phone in. If you take to store, it's immediate. I'd rather get the trade in immediately and just buy from any of the stores that gives $150.

Will try ebay or craigslist first so I won't have to pay at all.
[HTC EVO 3D] o0adam0o:
Will Target do MIR or instan discounts on contract extensions?

My phone is pretty beat up and but works. I dont have the original charger or battery but i have a charger/batt. how picky are they?
[HTC EVO 3D] jagox5:
how picky are they???

Yeah would like to know of all trade in stores which one is the more...

Picky of all of them?

My Evo is kinda beat up.

Broken camera lens and a little crack

next to the power button.
[HTC EVO 3D] sand1303:
i told myself i was going to wait on the 3d till it has been out for a while but for 50$ i don't know. i used my wifes line to get my evo on so my line is up for upgrade. i wonder how long they will be offering this?
[HTC EVO 3D] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
not sure if its been said but your evo 4g needs to be in working condition....screen needs to work also!
[HTC EVO 3D] THEGAMEPLAY94:
just sold my evo on ebay for $270
[HTC EVO 3D] sand1303:
Hmm, I just left target and they said they could give 130 dollar credits and u would still be paying about 80 bucks out of pocket. That ain't cool. She wanted me to go ahead and sign up for the pre order. I told her I could sell my 4G on Craigslist for 220 buy the 3d and have a coke and a smile all at the same time. She was lost for words.
[HTC EVO 3D] sand1303:
I bet we could get 250 on Craigslist if u advertise it as rooted and free hotspot. I don't know if that's a good idea though.
[HTC EVO 3D] rdcrds:
I sold mine a week ago in CL for 250$ and had about 4 people want it.Rooted etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] Blitzpwnage:
What did you have to say to them to convey you wanted the upgrade reset?
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
I pre-ordered my 3D on Friday night at BB. Selling on eBay is the way to go! BB now has the EVO for $99 new and upgrade. Forgot how much the Shift was. I'm thinking BB won't be giving much to people who trade in their old EVO's. Heads up to everyone going the BB route!
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] ipawd1:
Im curious to know exactly how many apps you guys have on your Tbolts....

you can list them...or you can just give a grand total.. not including system apps obviously
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] icedmayhem:
Totaling now 175 lol. 44 are games
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Xirix12:
I currently have 20 3rd party downloaded apps. Do you want just a number or what us to list them?
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] bhazard451:
Titanium backup says 581 total.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] ddgarcia05:
User apps? Not including system data apps.

Sent from my Nook Color running CM7 nightly 74.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] redtechjunky:
205 installed , 225 if you add purchased apps that are not installed ( mostly from Amazon's free app of the day )

Sent from the Swag ThunderBolt ADR6400L with some GingerLove (Gingeritis IX, Sense 3.0 = Winning) using XDA Premium App
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Kid_Cudi:
174

Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] joshnichols189:
Damn and i thought my 105 was a lot lol I
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] BurnOne77:
Damn talk about bloat.

Running bamf striped. I don't even have 25 things I downloaded/installed apk's for.

Setcpu

System panel

Root explorer

Power amp

Adw ex

6 themes for adw they are listed as sep apps. Not counting these lol

Amazon app.

Plants v zombies

Fancy widget pro

A modded news and weather widget.

Wallpaper wizardrii

zedge

Battery calibration

ROM manager

Adobe flash 10.3

Does Google maps count rofl.

Um I think that's it.... Wtf your phones are like app dumpsters.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] avlfive:
78 user apps according to TiBu.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] nsmac84:
116
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] msburr87:
Fancy widget

ADW ex

Jorte

Facebook

Tweetcaster

Words with friends

XDA App

Bank of America

Cache mate paid

Imdb

Flixster

Pandora

Scoremobile

Rom manager

Swift key x beta

Root explorer

Battstat widget

So 17 - and a half are basic essentials for my rom/phone management
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Cadillac Johnson:
62

Have move saved on TiBu, but that's what's actually installed currently.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] TreyDaPrince:
TB says 144. Not all are installed though.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] tomtripp21:
I currently have over 130 apps, not sure on the exact count....
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] Kc0r8y:
I have 74 total apps
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] StephenMilone:
titanium says i have 124 user apps.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] otakueric:
61. but I only have about 15 backed up so that number fluctuates with every rom.
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] necosino:
201.......
[Thunderbolt Themes and Apps] MomentFreak:
108 apps installed

None moved to SD card

2.81 GB left on internal memory
[HTC EVO 3D] XxDjbluexX:
Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=youtu.be
[HTC EVO 3D] A.Priori:
thats what she...

anyway, I cant wait to get my hands on this. I wonder if sprint stores will have them at opening? I got my reserved does that guarantee I will get one?
[HTC EVO 3D] scotbot:
that was a pretty good first review, he covered most of my questions.
[HTC EVO 3D] RVDigital:
I'll go ahead and ask, why such a dramatic difference in bench scores between the E3D and the SGS2? I know everyone says "scores don't matter", but it begs the question if they are utilizing similar hardware. Also, I understand that the current set of bench marking test probably do not account for a dual core proc.
[HTC EVO 3D] robnelle:
The benchmarks also don't account for the higher resolution/pixel count on the E3d.
[HTC EVO 3D] docmalc:
I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
[HTC EVO 3D] vinterchaos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwRH9Sc51Q

here is another new video, from radioshack
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
[HTC EVO 3D] ttieder:
I heard its because quadrant is only reading one core cause they haven't updated for the new snapdragon
[HTC EVO 3D] x7nofate:
very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500

very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...

Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices

My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that

sent from anything but an iPhone
[HTC EVO 3D] test878:
it was on his phone. I saw the icon when he first started talking about the apps. He mustve just missed it
[HTC EVO 3D] cholepuree1:
not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere.. but if you go through a cashback site (fat wallet) you get $25 back from wirefly. Pre-ordered mine for 179.99 - $25 cb = $154.99 no taxt and free standard shipping.
[HTC EVO 3D] x7nofate:
still no answer about gorilla glass
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
The real reason behind the benchmarksbis not because the e3d soc is half as powerful as the others its bc its the only soc that has asynchronous cores..quadrant and other can account for the dual cores ..look at the gs2 its off the chart..but the e3d core does not run the same clock speeds on each core..its actually a benefit..an optimization..take those benchmarks.with a grain of salt..if.the processor suck its couldn't eat through 1080p video or run so smoothly..
[HTC EVO 3D] DesJR9:
Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I agree I thought they looked great..one of the best I've seen..an evo woth sick camera _phone seks
[HTC EVO 3D] djdisturbed:
I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...

But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...

My advise don't buy a phone for benchmark scores and reciews....buy it because it will suit your every day needs.... Or dreams (3d video/pictures)

Yes take reviews and benchmarks into consideration but don't base your money on other peoples bias opitions and ****ty coded apps....

sent from anything but an iPhone
[HTC EVO 3D] Acei:
I can add a bit here...

Smartbench 2011 is optimized for multi-cores (4 cores to be exact). It creates 4 identical threads that are assigned with identical workloads. Whether your phone has 2 or 4 cores, Smartbench (version 2011 only, 2010 was not designed to use multi-cores) will keep them busy, I can assure you. :D

I do have a problem with reading frequency though. One of the ROM developer has kindly given me some clues as to why this is happening. It is mainly around Tegra 2 devices that don't correctly report the right frequency when it is set. Also, the Sensation seems to be reporting it as zero as well. In the future versions, I will try to measure the clock speed during the run time without affecting the benchmark scores. It will be interesting to see how this works out on async processors such as the ones in the Sensation and this.

And once again, here's a article that explains facts on dual-core support for Android OS. It really doesn't require Ice Cream - Froyo with SMP will utilize both cores just fine:

http://bit.ly/jHw7Ga
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
No not saying you need ice cream to use both cores but to fully make use of the cores i.e. multi tasking the future of dual cores needs ice cream...

And if I had to absolutely rely on a benchmark app it would be smartbench and a few dozen linpack tests

Quadrant is just a all around fail of a app...

sent from anything but an iPhone
[HTC EVO 3D] ttieder:
Is it just me or does the evo 3d look a lot smoother than the sensation there no lag at all
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
That was a pretty good review. Photo and video looked really good.

R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] slayer69:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=gorilla%2520glass&utm_campaign=Branded%2520Gorilla%2520Glass#featured-products

Its not listed yet but I don't seen why they wouldn't use it. They use it for most of the high end phones.

Had my evo for a year now with no screen protector and have not gotten one scratch....I even dropped it on rocky ground today from about 3 feet, landed on the glass and its perfect still.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Agreed..I just seems more polished..I think the evo is a flagship device ..its not just a fly.by night phone a.d I think they made sure to get it right..those pics and vids look very nice esp. Compared to that Picasa bs
[HTC EVO 3D] jessejames111981:
every other HTC phone comes with it
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Ha ha, the video just makes the waiting even worse.
[HTC EVO 3D] a_skyll:
I'm going to do this in few days when I get paiddddddddd. Oh yeah.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kanibull:
The main reason that the evo3d and sensation do bad in all benchmarks that aren't states strictly gpu is because unlike tegra2 or exynos, their 2 cores arm cortex a8. The others use cortex a9. For example the atrix has the same resolution screen but it benchmarks higher even with a lower clocked CPU. But the adreno220 does make it beast thru gpu testing
[HTC EVO 3D] ydoucare:
Some more benchmarks by Anandtech

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4416/...sm8x60-phones-htc-sensation-4g-and-htc-evo-3d
[HTC EVO 3D] notoriousguy:
Remember guys . This as you guys are saying it runs smooth but the guy from wirefly stated that it was a Pre productiong or something like that . He said it when he was looking for the Green Hornet movie . So it might be way better no lag phone once we get in on June 24 ..
[HTC EVO 3D] chewbz:
Man I still have 30 day return on my nexus but iono about the 3d anymore. Who knows if bench marks actually mean anything its the whole bootloader issue that I wanna how it's going to be resolved. :( ehh well see. Its gonna be hard to transition into sense.

sent from my sexy nexy 4 gizzle!
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Dude, its been resolved. Where have you been

R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] AyoJake:
is it just me or is the camera lacking compared to the sensation?

video didnt look very sharp pictures didnt look sharp at all idk im kinda on the fence now it should have a decent camera.

guess i'll watch more reviews as they come out.
[HTC EVO 3D] chewbz:
I haven't been checking in these forums for awhile, but I was under the impression that it was coming locked and signed. Htc said they will not be locking down future phones but wasn't sure of the 3d. So it's official that the evo 3d will come out of the box ready to be unlocked and rooted?

sent from my sexy nexy 4 gizzle!
[HTC EVO 3D] mattfmartin:
Unlocked yes, rooted not yet.

R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I don't know what video u were watching or I don't know what u expect from a phone bc the pics and videos I saw looked as good as anything ive seen on a phone
[HTC EVO 3D] Acei:
Could you point me to the source of this info please? I've been hearing this story from multiple sources on the XDA forum now, yet I don't understand how this could be possible. Linux underlying Android has always been multi-tasking perfectly well for years - just that Android wasn't leveraging it until recently when dual-core devices started to come out. I am curious what Ice Cream could improve over Froyo in this respect. Perhaps I missed something here.

Thanks. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
correct, froyo can be utilized by dual core phones, but honeycomb is designed for dual core tablets. Ice cream sandwhich will be froyo and honeycomb combined so it will be more otimized for dual core phones. It will probably be as big as eclair to froyo for the dual core phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] Acei:
What I'd like to know is what makes Ice Cream more suitable for dual-core devices than Froyo with SMP enabled... Froyo SMP is already capable of multi-tasking, and I can't see how typical current generation apps (i.e. one thread updates GUI, the other one does the background tasks) execute any more efficiently on the Ice Cream. Froyo SMP (as an OS) already spawns many many internal threads - plenty to split the load between the two cores.

Little while back, people have been saying that Gingerbread is needed for dual-cores. It turned out that wasn't the case. (Froyo SMP and GB SMP is roughly equivalent as far as dual-core support goes). Now people are saying Ice Cream is "optimized" for dual-cores. Where did this come from? Someone must have the original reference...
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
It is the internet, don't you know by now that people just make stuff up. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] toxicfumes22:
I can't read anything that was straight up on Ice Cream but Honeycomb was,from my understanding, designed for the tegra 2. So Icecream might run better on Tegra 2 phones but Jello might use a qualcomm chip and I know most of you wont have this phone that long but I stay the entire 2 yrs with it as I am saving up for an Alienware for a year or 2 from now. The new 18" are stupid sick, 330W for a laptop is just stupid and dual 1.5GB Graphics cards, I may rob a bank and get it faster :D.

Anyone down for a 'job' in Orlando hit me up. HAHA!

(Law officials disregard my last statement)

(Edit) Another not needed tangent happened, haha.
[HTC EVO 3D] babak:
I,m asking to myself why they dosen,t show how works in multitasking,in my opinion it would be the best benchmark.
[HTC EVO 3D] mevensen:
I'm actually curious about the benchmark data we've seen so far.

Mainly, I wonder about the effect that the asynchronous core management and other power management features built into the EVO 3D might have on these benches. Just like some of the benches we saw from AnandTech were influenced by a frame rate cap, there might be other factors influencing the scores.

We might not know until the E3D gets rooted and ROM'd with something that doesn't hold it back so much (at least in benchmarking).

Still, even with this pre-production unit, it looked smooth.

The only other I'm interested in is the battery commentary. We can't base anything on this reviewer's experience because the phone wasn't activated, so there was no data being pushed through 3G/4G channels. WiFi is always more economical in this manner, so I think his comments on this need to be taken with a grain of salt.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
Actually 2.3.4 is the version optimized to use the dual core. That was the change from 2.3.3 once honeycomb came out. They upgraded gb to utilize some of honeycomb into the for cell phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] splmonster:
No this info is not fully correct, originally that was the plan for Google. At IO it was mentioned that the new plan was for ICS to bring full support of dual-core and multi-threading to Android. 2.3.4 does not have full dual-core support, and yes I know that originally it was talked about having that. However it was changed by Google. ICS is supposed to bring Honeycomb elements to the phone devices not Gingerbread.
[HTC EVO 3D] RVDigital:
I didn't ask him if it said ENG, but yet another ray of hope that it ships unlocked or an OTA update has already been issued to make it so.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
I hope you don't expect for the phone to come with s-off bc u will be disappointed..maybe un encrypted but not rooted out of box
[HTC EVO 3D] RVDigital:
Thus the "yet another ray of hope" part of my comment. For clarification, we'll call it a long shot.
[HTC EVO 3D] firmbiz94:
Lol I like it that way..it should take a little effort and sense to root. I think it.makes our phones different than most others bc we have knowledge to unleash the full potential of our phones..I love when someone is like I have an evo too" and they see mine all fast and sick looking and tethering etc..
[HTC EVO 3D] Stalte:
I want to see a port for the weather widget from the kingdom because the weather on the lock screen sucks. I want to fly the the clouds to get to my lock screen
[HTC EVO 3D] george232:
Is the screen better in 2D-mode than the disappointing screen of the Sensation?
[HTC EVO 3D] robnelle:
Out of curiosity, what do you find disappointing about it?
[HTC EVO 3D] george232:
Bad viewing angles, brightness, saturation compared to the Incredible S.
[HTC EVO 3D] Acei:
Could someone point me to what it means by "full support of dual-core and multi-threading" please? :confused: