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[Samsung Infuse 4G] ricko2169:
Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Infuse and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.

I like my Atrix overall as a phone, but the locked bootloader is putting a dampener on my wishes to flash true ROMS. So, can you answer a few question for me please?

1. How do you find the quality of the phone overall?

2. What is battery life like?

3. Is it good performance wise (does the extra clock speed make eup for the older gen processor) ?

4. Are the ROMS available supported well with updates and feature adding?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
well it is not an arm a9 or dual core but it runs better than the other hummingbird phones due to extra ram and a quality job on the firmware.

build quality is good, parts fit much tighter than motorola and internals look more professional than htc but it feels kinda flimsy, not as rugged as the captivate was. it is just too large, too thin, and the plastic is too light and not rigid enough, this construction was great for a smaller phone like the galaxy s but is questionable on a phone this big and thin. that said it is not likely to break, i have dropped mine a few times i just wish it had a metal frame in there.

the hummingbird is very fast, it wont always beat the tegra but on some benchmarks it can get better frame rates especially with kernel mods. my 3d scores in antutu on my capivate were double what any stock phone had on the list when i was using a custom kernel. on the other hand the hummingbird is not well supported by the game develpoers probably because of lower popularity in america and because the tegra represents the next generation and the snapdragon is more popular and more clockable, future snapdragons will see 1.4ghz and up on the same core they are currently using.

so since it doesnt have the gaming dev it deserves (can be helped with chainfire 3d) the advantage of the hummingbird comes down to media playback. the hummingbird can playback H.264 mkv files at a higher class than the tegra, it is only beat by apples a5 in the ipad2 and the orion chip in the sgs2 with video playback. when gingerbread is available it will play those files even better.

so maybe it isnt as fast as the tegra2, but it is faster(slightly) in specific areas. im not saying one or the other is better but dont look at the hummingbird as an old processor just yet. other than that it has good battery life and the dev section is in it's infancy. when there is a kernel dev things will get alot better, if you want to help us get a kernel dev then donate to netarchy in the donations thread. for now the roms are good quality, the devs that are here are good with giving people what they want and at modding apps.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rjan22:
You are on the Infuse 4g not Inspire.

But anyway. We have gray ROMs and bettery battery, my 2 friend I let them.play with my infuse, they both have atrix , not they are both selling it on craiflist, even though this is just single core they told me they can see no difference, but me I don't know anything about the atrix because I don't have one, but most of the things I heard that atrix has bad battery and heat issues.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ricko2169:
Thanks, fixed that. Im in the correct forum, just wrote the wrong phone down.

I have no heat issues, and great battery life with my Atrix, its only lack of bootloader access that is putting me off.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Grim Reaper:
I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] slider2828:
I agree with everyone and motorola and most reviewers agree. Atrix has the processor, but motorblur and the implementation of android on motorola just blows.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] ricko2169:
I hear ya, though it would be likely even touch wiz would go as I am yet to find a phone companies launcher that meets my needs. I must say though the new version of Motoblur in the upcoming GB update looks to be a huge improvement.

Things like notification power settings and custom kernels are attractive to me and frankly don't look like a reality on the Atrix any time soon (second init seems like a lot of mucking around).

Also 4.5 inches of OLED goodness is attractive.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] antuus:
I moved from the Atrix to the Infuse last weekend. I can honestly say I'm 100% happy and won't go back to the Atrix. I had done my research prior to swapping them out so the first thing I did was installed the 1.2 infused rom. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping to get out of a rom with the Atrix, but it just wasn't happening. In real world performance, you really can't tell that the processors are different. I'm a tech nerd so I figured "OMG I can't go back to a single core." I was wrong. I haven't found a single thing about the Infuse that I would want to be more like the Atrix.

TL/DR

Performance differences are non-existant in every day use. The screen is AMAZING to look at. I can't stop looking.

edit: to answer your questions

1. Quality feels solid. Lighter materials don't always mean lesser quality.

2. Battery life is fine. As long as you don't expect to stream pandora over 3g/4g for 12 hours on battery, the phone lasts all day.

3. Performance is even better than anticipated.

4. Infused ROM has been awesome.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rjan22:
It's. Amoled Plus. Love saying that, but it only starts there.

Why would you want a dualcore when you can have a single core that don't lag at all and doesn't drain your battery that much.

I even use this keyboard (picture below) so I don't need to stretch my thumbs to reach the middle keys lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] nstong:
It's even better, it's super amoled plus
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rick in LA:
So I've been happily running Calkulin/Clemsyn v.5 forever and have even talked some mates through their own installations.

While doing just that over the phone, I booted into CW to better walk this guy through the steps. I took care not to "select" any of the recovery commands, I thought, and only ran "reboot system now."

After a lengthier-than-usual boot animation, my tab opened to "force close" for every app. Info shows I still have Calk/Clem and all apps still live in my app drawer.

What's my best (shortest?) way back?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
You didnt do anything wrong. The force closing is a known issue. Here is what you should have done when you first got your gtab.

1 install cwm

2 partition 2048/0

3 flash rom

You missed #2.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rick in LA:
Thanks for your response.

Actually, I had partitioned to those parameters when originally flashing the ROM (and had even RE-partitioned at a later date while troubleshooting).

For the (Google) record, I went to CWM and wiped Dalvik cache then fixed permissions. One or both of those measures got back most functionality (with a lot of application data and system preferences missing). These I restored from Titanium backup.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] looking335:
I'm thinking the Fix Permissions did the trick. I read somewhere if you got FCs to run that.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike_ekim:
Fix permissions in CW fixed the force close issue for me and many other people.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] warrenkb:
So I think I found the solution to the speaker pop on boot issue many people are reporting. In my case, it was a simple matter of ensuring that flight mode is enabled prior to shut down. If that is done, no speaker pop is heard as part of the boot process during the boot animation.
[HTC Inspire 4G] schinner16:
So here is the deal, I'm moderate to somewhat heavy user but I have some odd battery stats.

I'm at 13.5 hours right now with 4 hours 10 mins display time and display only accounts for 13 percent! Shouldn't display be my number one juice user? Right now cell standby tops the charts with 33 percent and I'm at 26 percent battery left.

I would add the screen shots but tapatalk doesn't like the file format I guess...
[HTC Inspire 4G] psyc0:
i believe those percents arnt how much battery they are draining....its the total percentage they have been using since its been on....so you been in standby longer then the display has been lit up and i believe cell standby is when u dont have a signal so ur radio keeps seachin for a signal using tons of battery
[HTC Inspire 4G] schinner16:
Wait am I understanding you correctly? if I were to put it on airplane mode, I could still have 59 Ish percent or so...

That can't be right.
[HTC Inspire 4G] psyc0:
the way i need to say it sounds good in my head....but i cant type it right....
[HTC Inspire 4G] zuriken:
An hour of Plants vs Zombies will easily eat 40-50% of my charge. Boooo.
[HTC Inspire 4G] schinner16:
Also I noticed when I got down to 16 percent it said I had 3700 mah shouldn't it be closer to 3000?
[HTC Inspire 4G] zuriken:
How would you squeeze 3700 mah out of a 1230ish mah battery? I think you're referring to "mV" as the remaining charge, right?
[HTC Inspire 4G] diablo009:
U got to take the screenshot in JPG format.
[HTC Inspire 4G] schinner16:
o yea, you got it mV.

i was reading the thread about wiping the battery stats and it said fully charged should be at 4.2 mV and drained should be 3.0 mV.... i do have 4.2 at full charge but definitely wont make it down to 3.0 without dieing...i dont think

thanks for the screenshot tip.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Scott_S:
Mine with similar screen-on/time off charger is in the ~70-80% range, FWIW.

I've seen this phenomenon your experiencing described before, I've always wondered why that occurred. Maybe something to do with battery stats, I guess.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MasonGL:
I am able to access fast boot on my phone

here is what it says

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G

HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)

CPLD-13

RADIO-2.22.23.02

Oct 21 2009, 22:33:27

Just wanna get back to basic 1.6, any ideas?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
Find the thread about unrooting the mt3g 1.2 and follow those directions
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MasonGL:
Ok. I dont know if this would do me any good but before I semi bricked, I installed Clockwork Recovery and backed up. Maybe that can fix my problem?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
If you can get into recovery then yes
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MasonGL:
So im able to boot into clockwork recovery,but i Am not able to actually turn the phone on, It just stays on the My Touch start up screen. I did make a backup but my little nephew lost my sd card I used to make the back up. So is their anyway I can just flash my phone back to life on 1.6 by downloading sappimg.zip?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
Flashing the correct sappimg.zip will get your phone back to stock
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MasonGL:
Could you assist me in finding that correct sappimg.zip ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...ire_T-Mobile_US_2.10.531.4_release_signed.zip
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hubh98:
What is your main version?

fastboot getvar version-main
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MasonGL:
No idea, where would i find that @ hubh98

Thanks tvall, trying it out now, quick question,while using the clockwork recovery, would I need to rename to update.zip or would I just use the install zip from sdcard option?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
Rename it to sappimg.zip and boot into hboot (volume down + power)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MasonGL:
To freaken tvall

Ummm. Tvall. youre a freaken boss/genius thanks so much

Worked like a charm
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
You're welcome. Glad to help
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caddi234:
Anyone of you knows where i can find the "Icon pack" in a ROM (Or zip file) ??...... I really like the icons in "GR-12" ROM (Task Manager, Gallery, Email, Music, and Messaging) and i'd like to port them to Apex 6.xxx or Serendipity....They really look good in TochWiz 4 I hope someone of you could help me!! :) Thanks....
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Each icon is stored in its own apk. To change them you will have to edit each apk
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] studacris:
Those would be in the individual apks themselves...easiest way to port them would be to simply transfer the apps with the icons you like to the zip of the rom you want to use. Then flash it. Even extract those and put them in a folder on your pc so you can cook them in to whatever rom you want to in the future...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nook-color:
I'm trying to get a feel with Netflix & Android tablets - and so far - I'm starting to have doubts that it'll ever be available on the Tegra 2 tablet.

My understanding is it's a security - hardware issue - to keep people from stealing / ripping netflix content - that's keeping the barn doors shut. Or perhaps Android has their own plans to monetize Google Movies. But as more time goes by - I'm less optimistic about getting Netflix on an android tablet.

Any thoughts - or is there something recent that I've missed re: Netflix coming out on this tablet - or others in the near future?

Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Itaintrite:
If it does come to an Android tablet, it'll still be very much SD quality. Look at the iPad.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xformulax:
not sure of resolution or bit rate data on the netflix stream to an ipad, but it's pretty damn good quality on that screen.

i'd love to have it on my transformer... and my fascinate.... but i guess i have it on my xboxes, my ipad, and my X so i cant complain too much.

i'd really like it on the transformer though, especially with the HDMI out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenny:
There are ways to get it on unsupported devices... Google can help you find guides.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isolated_epidemic:
Tried every way possible and can't get it to work. If someone does get it working I would love to know how. As far as making it to tegra 2 tablets im sure it will make it eventually. NVIDIA has a big presence and it would make their chips more attractive if they had Netflix support.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacrossev:
The evo got it,and as far as i can recall Netflix said it wouldn't since the evo has no dem support on the chip. That apparently changed as they settled for software drm. Recently it was removed when the gingerbread update officially launched for the evo, but prior to that it worked fine on cm7 which is aosp gb. My guess is it will probably come in time.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
Not on Tegra 2 Honeycomb devices.

I am really anxious to get it on my tablet as well. But I can wait since I have it on everything else that I own.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreenHornet:
It does work on tegra 2 tablets. I have had it working on a viewsonic gtablet for over a month.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Segnaro:
Rumors say the Lenovo IdeaPad K1 has Netflix preinstalled.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/lenovo-ideapad-k1-tablet-hits-some-online-retailers-still-not-b/
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yokem55:
So the problem is a Honeycomb issue and not a Tegra 2 issue? Then maybe there is hope. Has anyone gotten it working on other Tegra 2 Gingerbread devices?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lqaddict:
Yep, had it working on the gtab as well.

I guess the issue here is not the Tegra but the Honeycomb and Netflix.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lqaddict:
Xoom has Gingerbread hidden if you up your screen dpi settings, I wonder if it works on it. But seeing how unusable the GB is on the Xoom in that environment I doubt it is of benefit here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haupman:
The problem isn't Tegra 2, it's HoneyComb. Netflix simply hasn't gotten around to making a version compatible with HoneyComb.

Let's face it, until the TF came out, the HoneyComb tablet market was tiny.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matterhorn:
Netflix is working on many android phones including my Nexus One. In fact the quality is great, especially compared to Slingbox. I think it is just a matter of time before Honeycomb gets Netflix, there are just too many Honycomb/Tegra 2 units being sold for them to loose that market.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] synapsethehsow:
Do you still have it working? I am running Vegan Tab rom and have never had it fully functional, use it as a que manager but unable to watch. I have been using a home server software, Playon, for the past 2 years and it works good to watch Netflix. It also gives me access to other content and I can also watch videos that are on my home computer. But I would still like to be able to use the Netflix app.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zillah1985:
Netflix worked on my Archos 101. Kind of missing it right now since the TF has no netflix.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreenHornet:
Still works on mine. I am using cyanogen mod though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Well, it's certainly not specific to Honeycomb and Tegra 2. The Samsung Epic, for example, still doesn't have an official Netflix app, and it's neither Honeycomb nor Tegra 2. And I'm sure there are still more Android devices that don't have Netflix than do...
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] player911:
You just have to edit your build.prop to a G2 or something. Thats how it works on the G2x Tegra2

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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syntrix:
How did you get it to work on TF? Please post up, as I'm anxiously awaiting NF on my TF, as are many others!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
This whole thread just became irrelevant, because Netflix just put their prices up by 60%.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/178...-free-chinese-site-tudou-film-blockbuster.htm

So, can we get a Tudou app? ;-)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaiaV:
Seems this topic keeps resurfacing with the same questions over and over again.

Build.prop changes won't work.

A modded .apk won't work.

The TF lacks a combination of things, some of them inside of the libraries, in order to make Netflix work in the framework itself.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
Why does that make it irrelevant? I am still paying for Netflix :P
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
Well, it doesn't make it irrelevant for those who don't mind being sucked dry by a corporate vampire.

There's plenty of folks who are extremely unhappy with Netflix and cancelling accounts in droves, though. A 60% increase in price in one go, and even greater if you consider it's only six months since the last price hike, is not reasonable. The level of service is going downhill, but the price is skyrocketing.

I'm among the crowd who will likely leave Netflix over this. And that, for me, is why the app is now completely irrelevant.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lehoule:
Seriously? Wow
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxploration:
Would you call a 60%+ increase in fees without any improvement in service reasonable? (actually, there's been a distinct worsening in service -- more than half the stuff in my Watch Instantly queue is no longer available, I have lost count of how many obviously cracked or scratched DVDs I've received lately, and the website no longer allows even basic functionality such as sorting.)

Netflix has basically flushed itself down the toilet. And it's not just me that says so.

As of the current writing, just a hair short of 26,000 replies on Netflix's Facebook post agree.

http://t.co/Y5dvR2w

You read that right. Twenty six THOUSAND replies to one single Facebook post. They got 5,000 angry replies to their blog post on the official blog, which reached the maximum post limit, too. And "Dear Netflix" is a trending topic on Twitter.

They have seriously screwed the pooch on this one, whether you folks agree or not.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brando56894:
They didn't raise all of their prices, I'm still only paying $8 to stream an unlimited amount of stuff.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewitte:
I've been paying but about to apply a 12 month membership I was given. Anyway I will pay that much extra IF its licensing that allows all or the majority of new releases to go streaming.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dfin13:
Netflix is trying to get out of the disc mailing business, and this is how they're doing it. They know a lot of people have grown accustomed to the streaming service and will likely just cancel the disc service (which is what I'll do). I watch roughly one Blu-ray a month from Netflix, so the extra $8 isn't worth it to me.

The streaming selection needs to increase though. There are a ton of titles, but only a fraction of them are any good. I could likely get by without it once I wrap up "Weeds."
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kampfwolf09:
Agreed, the owner said a long time ago he was pushing to get rid of the mailing part and focus on streaming. All this price hike is doing is pushing to using redbox for my discs, and netflix for streaming. So apparently his strategy is working.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viking099:
Also, their licensing costs (i.e. the money they pay to the media producers like Sony, Paramount, 20th Century Fox, etc) are projected to go from $150,000,000 last year to $2,000,000,000 next year.

That extra $1,850,000,000 has to come from somewhere!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dfin13:
Luckily there is a Redbox down the street that spits out Blu-ray discs, or I'd be a little more peeved about this. The last movie I got in the mail sat on my table for 3 weeks before I watched it, so I won't really miss the mail part, but I know it'll be tough for a lot of people who actually watch a lot of DVDs/Blu-rays.