yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
yeah i like those two.. i find myself using superbad quite a bit recently.. i am not sure if its the best out of those 4 i suggested, but it doesnt seem to be a battery hog from the times i am using it.. also know that the scary, superbad, and smartass have built in screen off settings... so no need to set screenoff profile in setcpu
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
Thanks. I just set superbad @ 122/902. Will see how it performs.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
i will copy your settings and see how it goes :D

@tdj, with the superbad governor do i have to set the screen off profile or will it dial down the cpu automatically like with the smartass governor

EDIT: sorry i was blind didn't see the post prior about screenoff profile.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
I think he said it has the built in settings.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] milestide25:
I had high hopes for this kernel. I can clock to 1996 just fine, but for some reason I get like a 2800 or so on quadrant advanced with it compared to the 4055 I was getting on the kernel that came with the RoyalGinger 3.0 rom I'm using. I'm sure it's because I have no I/O scheduler or anything, but I didn't see anything on how to set those. I'm not exactly a noob, but I don't exactly understand some of the more advanced things. I'm completely aware that this hasn't been in the form of a question, but any help would be appreciated.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
I am liking the superbad governor. It is very smooth from sleep to wake mode. Not noticing any lag. Great battery life too. I am at about 36 hours now with 33% left. Haha, screenshot shows 2 days 15hours with 33% totally not correct but thought that was funny.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
I got around 15 hrs with abusive by little gamers. I'm using scary with same setting now. Will see how long it last after fully charge tonite
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ascarface23:
phone died at 1day 1.5 hours with moderate usage
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Thats awesomeness! Can't really complain about that..

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
I just flashed the demonSPEED insanity lower VDD 50 which since this is a SVS kernel, will lower the voltage by 50 at every CPU frequency set? It seems to be working well without an instability or reboot. I am waiting to see if it helps with what is already great battery life but whatever juice one can squeeze from the battery to make it last longer is only a plus.

I know in your OP you said this was already agressively undervolted by default. Just for my own knowledge, is the default undervolting similar to faux's LV kernel and so with this lower VDD 50 mod is it even lower than that? Seems pretty stable at this low voltage, i am glad that my CPU can handle it. Sorry if this sounds dumb to you, just trying to learn...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Correct it will lower all frequencies by 50mv.. my default vdd table is similar too what faux uses, but not identical.. I have undervolted even dither on the lower frequencies than the scripts provide, so I can assure most phone should have no issues.. let ne know how it works

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
this might be too much to ask but do you have a script for lower VDD 75 or lower VDD 100, i would like to test it if you do.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ascarface23:
no i cant complain :D just give praise and if i get that extra bonus ill buy you a beer or two;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
Please report how it goes... I want to know too :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] d12unk13astard:
+1 I would be glad to test also
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
The issue is that the higher freq can't handle that loaw of a drop.. buy I have an insanity script that ill send u later

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
Awesome, thanks. If it is unstable than i will go back to lower vdd 50, seems to be working just fine.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] marseillesw:
Hey bro, when u gonna bring ur talents to the sense side? Lol
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jberg22:
Sorry if I should search this first, but I'm new to undervolting. Could someone explain exactly what it does and what the benefits/risks of it are?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
We MIUI users like to keep him hostage:D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
Undervolting saves power and in turn saves battery life if you can get away with undervolting, not all CPU's are created equal. Some might become unstable with too much undervolting
[myTouch 4G Android Development] marseillesw:
Lol then I'm callin in jedi hostage negotiators
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jberg22:
Thanks for the quick response. When you're using the lower vdd 50 what setcpu frequencies are you using?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
it's in my signature, 122/1017-superbad governor, no screen off profile because superbad is supposed to scale the CPU down with screen off automatically. It's been awesome and smooth today. Appears to be saving me battery life but i haven't really gone 24 hours yet the these settings plus the lower vdd 50 mod:D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jberg22:
Alright I appreciate it man. Keep us updated on how it works for you, I think I'll probably end up giving it a shot.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] xandermpls:
:)

RoyalGinger 3.0 w/demon 2.0kernel superbad
[myTouch 4G Android Development] phil0sophic:
sense

This works with Virtuous Unity 1.31.0 Sense 3.0 everything I read here says it is not sense based????
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
this is not for sense Roms, only CM7, AOSP, and MIUI
[myTouch 4G Android Development] phil0sophic:
I was questioning post #184 ascarface sig is a sence rom so couldnt understand how he was using this kernel.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
He has been posting in the miui thread. I think he is using miui at the moment
[myTouch 4G Android Development] phil0sophic:
Sense

Either that or this kernel is magical...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
i know i have said this before... but I am going to expand to sense soon.... hopefully by the end of the weekend :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] marseillesw:
that's wtf I'm talking about bro!!! Glad to see u doing a tony stark on the miui tribe lol..come join the sense nation
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
HAHA :D cant get me away from miui.. thats what I have testes for... ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
So glad to read this post :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] marseillesw:
Right right, do ya thing bro, just glad to see u expanding ur horizons...now with that said u got till sunday to finish my kernel!!! Otherwise I'll just have to wait longer.. Lol
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
Kernel Review

My setup:

MIUI 1.8.5 with demonspeed mod

Demonspeed kernel v5 (122/1017MHz superbad governor)

Flashed the lower VDD 50 mod

I have been using this for 36 hours, it is totally stable. I have no lag, rom runs really smooth, no reboots. Phone stays cool. All my apps working like normal. As far as battery life, i am noticing a real improvement since before I flashed the lower vdd 50 mod. I have been off charger since 5am so 12 hours now and my phone has 81% left with light to moderate usage (a few phone calls, some text messages, checking xda, looking at news, reading emails, playing cut the rope).

@saotua, if you are going camping this weekend you should definitely flash this mod. With light usage you can make it through the weekend.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kevev:
Same setup.

Same here. The VDD 50mv init script has increased my battery life tremendously! After a full work day of browsing from 7a.m.-6p.m. my phone would be below 20% battery level. Today the Battery is @ 45%. Thank You for the awesome kernel and init script!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
Thanks vqt, I'll flash it tonite. Been using scary for 16 hrs now with light usage and have 70% left.

(a few phone calls, some text messages, checking xda, looking at news, reading emails, playing cut the rope) -----> exactly what i need/do everyday :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] phil0sophic:
sense

Oh Yeah Baby...now yer talkin.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
working on it right now... :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kevev:
Will the VDD inits work in v6 kernel? I updated MIUI to 1.8.12 + demonspeed_MOD.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
No.. Changed frequency table..

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] kevev:
Will you be providing new inits? Or are they no-longer needed?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
When I release the kernel in this thread I will update them

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] kevev:
Okey Dokey ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TmobileDash12:
Just curious, is there a reason why you chose NOOP over BFQ v2?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] eqjunkie829:
Im going to check out the incredicontrol app later when i get home from work and was wondering about the numbers. What voltage changes would you consider to be safe?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] pnut22r:
Tdj, raftvitto says on one of his posts (rootzwiki) that underclocking won't help battery but undervolting will.

What's your take, and will undervolting be the new thing? I know your starting to allow users to edit the svs.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
you can start at lowering -25 first and see if it is stable then try some more if you want. I tested incredicontrol for -50 and it seems to work fine. see TDJ's sense kernel thread as there is some good discussion about what not to do with incredicontrol and his kernels.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
OP UPDATED... all MIUI users update to this... all v5 and older update to this as well :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
have always been undervolted.. but the you need to understand the lower the freq the lower the voltage.. so if you run at lower freq you are helping battery by keeping the voltage lower than if you where at higher freq.. you tell me>>
[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
Thanks Tdj, love the vdd scripts! Flashing...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] BGOM21:
This kernel makes my phone so much more enjoyable. Consistent greatness.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] PowSniffer0110:
Wanna give this kernel a shot. How is the battery life? Im on Fauxs 1.29 AOSP/CM rom with pretty good results with his kernel. He hasnt updated his kernel in a while now tho. I get keyboard lag on the rom too which drives me crazy, would this help?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Flash it and try it out.. Worse thing that could happen is you don't like it and flash back your previous setup.. I don't think you will be disappointed, but who knows??

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] PowSniffer0110:
Battery life and keyboard lag?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Going to repeat myself too.. Flash it and try it out

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
ignore, posted in wrong section sorry

EDIT: I was going to post in your sense kernel thread but had two windows open, sorry.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
OMG! WHAT! jk :D
[myTouch 4G Android Development] PowSniffer0110:
Oooowwwhh a mystery eh?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
not a mystery if you flash it.. i cant answer your question because i am not using the same rom. ;)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] PowSniffer0110:
Screen seems generally.. unresponsive at most times and lags on they keyboard sometimes quite a bit. But its only been an hour will check in
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ace42:
You should wipe cache and dalvik and flash kernel again afterwards...And if you use setcpu clear its data so it can get the new freq table.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TmobileDash12:
Sorry, just really interested in the different schedulers. - bump -
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
How did I know that you would come back with kind of response? I am not trying to be a prima donna here but... I test each and everything I release more extensively than any one person will ever use their device. If you want to be skeptical about it that's fine, but don't be bringing that negative energy around here. If you can do a better job then please do. This kernel has been in development for quite some time and I and many other people will attest that this kernel works as well as the best of them. I don't know what you consider lag and unresponsive, I am 110% sure that it's not related to my kernel. You are using a very clean and stripped down rom, I highly doubt that faux's kernel is laggy or unresponsive either. I am getting so annoyed with these kinds of post.. Show me something to back up what you're saying or don't even bother saying anything.

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] lilr0b3rt:
TDJ I love your MIUI rom and kernel. Thing is for some reason now when I put SetCpu on superbad or smartass, overclock it and set on boot the governor sticks but the frequencies always reset to default min 122 and max 902. They reset when I change governor to smartass or superbad and if I leave them on they also reset at reboot. Any suggestions?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Sounds like a permission issue.. First go into superuser and make sure setcpu is set to allow.. If that isn't the issue clear data from the app and fix permission from recovery or rom manager.. Also, make sure you are usin the latest version of setcpu. If that all fails use the app "no frills" from the market. That's currently what I am using

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] lilr0b3rt:
I doubt its a permission issue because on boot Superuser gives SetCpu permission and it sets the governor just the frequencies ahow the ones I set but you could see on the app that the min is 122 and max 902 even though those aren't the set ones. I also tried everything you recommendes with no avail. No frills is working awsome though, just makes me regret to have paid for SetCpu. Thank you though. If I can help with the SetCpu issue in anyway to resolve it let me know. I don't mind but know other people might want to use SetCpu for the profiles feature.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
SetCpu works fine for me.. I just tested it right now. I everything held fine after reboot.. Only reason I am using no frills is because it was recommended to me so I am testing it out..

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] PowSniffer0110:
BRO!! Chill the hell out and take a xani... All I said was a quick follow up how it was acting the first hour. Said my screen was unresponsive, responding to YOUR kernel. I switched to Superbad schedueler and waited till today to mess with it and its pretty nice. Never said I could this **** on my own.. I VERY much appreciate your work and Fauxs and all the devs here, dont take my comment out of context and come flaming me with a two paragraph cry. No negative energy here, THANKS FOR THE WORK AND THE KERNEL. :D:rolleyes:

P.S. Works great on Fauxs newest ROM if anyone was wondering.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] keji13:
Soo which governor would b best for maximizing battery life with out feeling like I'm using an old sidekick lol wen I go to school I'm there for at least 10 hours a day so I usually underclock to like 768 but phones so slow. I would guess scary but like the sound of superbad just curious on opinions either way this is really good work love the kernels and cool names for governors :-)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
I'm using Scary @ 122/1017 and still very smooth. 18 hrs with light-med usage easily.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
What do you guys know about screen on time???

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] vqt:
Impressive. Is that with v7 of your kernel?...haha
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saotua:
wow ... how could you do it
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
That's definitely not one day obv. It's for the entire week :p

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] keji13:
Yea I was running scary 122/902 last me up to like 14 to like 17 hours tops. I'm a pretty heavy user though I tweak everything
[myTouch 4G Android Development] raycaster3:
That is about what I get and I'll have like 3 hrs screen on. That is freaking awesome!

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Hey TDJ,

I wanted to thank you for putting so much time into making your kernels. I'm currently on CM7 v6 undervolted by 50mv, with a few more voltage tweaks from incredicontrol. This kernel is pretty amazing. Even if you stopped development on it all together, we would be in good shape. Of course, I hope you don't. . . . Ha.

Sent from a phone that is better than yours.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Awsome! Thanks! Just fyi.. If your using incredicontrol make sue your not using a script

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Umm, oops. I am using a script. Why shouldn't I use both?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
To make a long story short.. That is the instructions of the app. Read his thread

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
I didn't even know a thread for incredicontrol existed. I flashed the reset script. Hopefully that just reset the voltages and doesn't count as running a script. Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Yes your good now

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] will03r6:
the link isn't working for whatever reason... can somebody post me a mirror or something....?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] keji13:
Superbad is Awesome!!!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] saulorama:
I just wanted to say thanks. You, faux, and others do a great job with the kernels. Amazing quality and I am excited that you spend time on this for the community.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Hmm, I used incredicontrol and I seem to be able to get a stable undervolt by 75 mv. That is of course, after the phone has already successfully booted with standard voltage. Also, I only overclock to 1113 mhz. I think I'll try editing and resigning one of the undervolt scripts and seeing if i get a bootloop. Wish me luck!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jberg22:
Hopefully it works for you, let us know how it goes
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
anyone feel like testing??
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jberg22:
I'd be glad to test it out
[myTouch 4G Android Development] will03r6:
I'd love to test
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
making this easy... open beta

http://darksidedev.net/kernels/glacier-demonspeed-v7-CM7_#16_082111.zip
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Woohoo!

Edit: Now I'm just being rude, but are there any undervolting scripts for this kernel?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] will03r6:
so far so good on v7... I'll keep reporting
[myTouch 4G Android Development] d12unk13astard:
v7 working great so far over here too!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kevev:
v7 working great so far. What changed?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
On betas I don't like to list changes because people get placebo effect.. All I want to know is if there are any issues and battery life

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Thats a good stance, because the placebo affect is very real. This bad boy seems pretty good to me. I was VERY hard on it this morning, so its difficult for me to report on battery. GPS, rear camera, and ffc working great. I haven't tried wifi yet. I'll check that when i get home. Anyone tried wifi calling? I don't use it, so. . .

Edit: Wifi seems weak. Im 6 feet from my AP and don't have full bars. Normally i get full bars in the next room. I had 2. May just be an anomoly. Anyone else have a report on wifi?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
http://www.darksidedev.net/home.php?...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
7 hours. 80%

Thats with several phone calls, some texting and xda app use. I'd call that normal usage.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] samtani776:
Can this be used in mytouch 4g virtuous unity beta 2.33 rom?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
Uh, VU is a sense ROM. TDJ does have a Sense kernel, but its not the one in this thread. CM7 is based off of the AOSP.

Try his Sense kernel.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] samtani776:
Thanks can you provide me the link for it.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TmobileDash12:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1214489

You really need to try the search feature...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] samtani776:
Thanks dude.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] d12unk13astard:
+1
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ninjamirage:
I'm having a problem with the new version of this kernel. The battery level stays at 100 for a long time, then all of a sudden drops to 50. Running on Mexdroidmod. v1 seems like the only kernel that works for that rom
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Ace42:
Derek, I was wondering if it's possible to create "dual" audio through the kernel. So when media apps are used like netflix, games, youtube, music player etc...Sound will come from the front & back, instead of just the speaker only.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Undeadk9:
+1 that would be very nice.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
CKISGEN's kernels work really well on Mexdroidmod. That ROM is pretty fickle when it comes to kernels. Very fickle, actually. Check the RoyalGinger thread for his latest.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] thederekjay:
Has nothing to do with being fickle... You need to use the kernel I packaged into that port.. If my memory serves me correctly that port is on 2.6.32.42 making my current kernel obsolete to that port.. I would have to double check to confirm but I am pretty sure...

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
I believe I was thinking of the wrong Mexdroidmod. I was thinking of the version Jivany ported. That one was very fickle, and it predated kernel release for the glacier by you, as I recall. And yes, it ran a 2.6.32.xx kernel which means CK's latest kernel was a bad recommendation anyway. Ha.The pre ghost chili version totally slipped from my memory. Nice ROM though.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kevev:
VDD

Hey thederekjay. Do the v6 lowered voltage zips work on the v7 kernel? If not when you have some time would you be willing to create some v7 versions? Thank You! :o)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
+1

He just moved and still managed to get the new MIUI ready. Man, what a trooper. I'm sure he is exhausted.

Thanks for your hard work Derek!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] pfroyjr:
Pardon my ignorance here, but I'm running the pre ghost chilli version of mexdroid with this kernel and it seems to be working just fine, but should I be running something else?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] estallings15:
The kernel packaged with the rom was known to be working well with it. TheDerekJay thoroughly tests his work before release. Which kernel are you running?

You can try other AOSP kernels, but don't be surprised if you run into issues. I'm not saying you will have problems, but don't be surprised if you do.