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[Acer Iconia A500] flipper2006:
I have Nook Color (Cyanagenmod 7.1) and A500, The Nook color scrolls much better currently then A500. I have used the ipad and browsing is better, the whole flow moving is better but it's different technology and they have it working better at the moment. I keep hearing Ice Cream sand is going to be great, but has anyone seen any demo of it..

On another note. Iconia seems to bog down with the last update a few weeks ago. Scrolling from desktop to desktop with a few widgets really slows down sometimes. I have the CNN app, and Multicon on the bottom with 4 set's of 4 icons (16 total). I have been using my Iconia from when it was released in end of April.
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
You can't wait for ever, and that's the problem with Android ... After 3.1, wait for Ice cream, then something else, each time hoping that you'll find something 100% fluid but it's never the case. So you try to overclock or change the ROM of your device, but all becomes then even more buggy, always the same ... Like in the bad times of Windows Mobile ... For me it's over, whatever the manufacturers promise to us.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
dude - either you installed a buggy app or have a bad tablet

Just got my a500 two days ago. Having no keyboard lag to speak of (I type at 60 wpm) and using my a500 to respond to this post. Everything is pretty much lightning fast.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
dizzy33:

- you should wait before take any decision concerning reselling your tablet for an ipad. trust my experience and it's MY POINT OF VIEW maybe not everyone will agree.

*** iPad is awfully limited compared with what you can do with android

*** iPad is faster....sure 2 things the system shutdown everything not in use when running an application, it's why when you turn the devices it's so smooth, wait the window8 tablet they will run this kind of technology and that is a fact, another point is iOS on ipad doesn't have widget, just icon so for sure... it's faster. also a third thing, the resolution is lower on ipad... less pixel to render = less work to do = faster = smoother.

*** iPad is E X P E N S I V E.... you want card reader, usb, video output, etc... OPEN YOUR WALLET!

beware i am not against ipad, I was about to buy one but all those limitation makes me think 2 times before buying.

now

honeycomb is really a young OS,

Android is not so young for sure.

Maybe a future android 4.0 (Crumble AppleBlueBerry Pie with sugar caramel) will be on TOP of all expectation.

Just wait end of the month for the update, take a look and really if it's not what you look for, sell back your tablet and go for an iPad2.

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and really... if you expect 100% works without bug... you should go fishing... because it's always buggy in IT.
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
picking i pad

On your way to get thst I pad. Stop by and take Steve's trash out.

No matter what anyone says posative .you have made your mind up.
[Acer Iconia A500] karlkarloff:
I'm just throwing my two cents in...I currently own three Android tablets(an old Archos 5 IMT, my Gtab and my new Acer A500), an Ipod touch, an Iphone 3gs, and an Ipad. Personal experience is that while the Apple devices offer a certain amount of "wow" factor in the ease of use, such as fluidity of scrolling and screen rotation, the Android devices are much better at actually being used. My new Acer has completely taken the place of both my laptop and netbook for travel, with the addition of a bluetooth keyboard. The fact that I can load up a couple 8 gig flash drives and take whatever info, video, music, etc. I decide I might want and have it available is a huge thing for me. My A500 scrolls very smoothly, smoother than either my touch or Iphone for sure. I will admit that I haven't used the stock browser much at all, I installed Dolphin HD pretty much as soon as I opened the box. The Ipad is very smooth, but also very limited in use. I'm sure the Ipad2 improves a whole bunch on that, but the price tag certainly reflects it. I mount my tablet in the car, and can run GPS/Navi apps and listen to music at the same time with no hitches, glitches or other annoyances. Just my opinion, but Apple can keep the Ipad2's and 3's and so on, I'm gonna stick with my Android.
[Acer Iconia A500] schmoogle:
@Bec07 respectively you are wrong about "nobody yet has had these issues".

There is a big problem with flickering and freezing with android apps created with most of the webview/html5 frameworks like Sencha and Jquery mobile.

just google "sencha flicker android"

we are currently developing a tablet app on IOS and android and using Sencha/ phonegap. The IOS works perfectly and the Android (we tested on the Acer a500) has major flicker. After dealing with Sencha tech people, they have reported that it is with Android. Too bad as we made the decision to table the Android version and release IOS initially. we also tried it with Jquery Mobile and same issue.

Hopefully the Android folks are monitoring the issues. Hopefully they view their role as enabling as many Android apps as possible regardless of whether they are programmed in native or third party tools.

I'm happy to send a link to anyone that would like to see for themselves - just PM me.
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
To Karlkarloff, I guess you must have a 4Ghz A500 because mine, using Dolphin browser (and nothing else installed on the A500) is not smooth at all ...

I really feel like I'm using an old device, and the iPhone 3G of my girlfriend (400 Mhz) is much much smoother when browsing the web than my A500.

What is hard to understand is that do display photos, then the A500 is very smooth (like an iPad). I would think it would be more difficult to deal with photos than browsing the web ... The same for games, they are smooth and fast. But on the web, even a single web page with no flash on it does lag when scrolling it. I really tried all browsers, it's always the same. So I am not confident in the way Android 3.0 has been developped.
[Acer Iconia A500] Bec07:
I'm really starting to suspect you might be just a troll. iPhone 4 and iOS 4 are 30% slower when loading webpages. Take 600 mhz away from the iPhone 4 and no way in the world will it be smooth.

Than again, there's hundreds of videos showing how smooth the A500 is and all the rest of the Tegra 2 tablet army. I doubt Acer's apps can affect the browsing experience in any way.

It's really awkward how you out of all the hundreds of users have this issue. Go to your local shop and ask for a replacement. Come back here once you have it and stop repeating the same thing over and over again.

A500 browsing with flash always on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slyU0TG0Hxw
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
/!\ Troll Spotted /!\

No kidding, I doubt your A500 is cripple that you seems to say.

what kind of website you go visit?

could you put some HD video of your experience same website with ipad and acer at the same time.

other thing is... how compare fairly 2 items with not the same hardware....

ipad run a desktop with only icon and a background... on a lower resolution

a500 run a desktop with 3D effect, widget, and living background... with higher resolution....

I really want see what website you go visit.

BUT it's a fact that the "experience" can be improved on the Android System AND will be :D

smooth, html5 etc... have been improved on 3.1 it's a fact... so Patience

La patience est une vertu.
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
again, i am NOT talking about the speed to load the web pages, i am talking about how smooth it is when you move the page with your finger ! And yes, for that it is slower (less smooth) than an iPhone 3G, no doubt ! Just try and you'll see ...

If the A500 is smooth enough for you, then you are lucky because I also would like to be happy with my A500, but it's not the case and still may not be the case with the 3.1. This is important to know for people who may want to buy this tab : you are happy with it, but some people like me are not happy with it, and it's not because I don't have the same opinion that you have that I should stop talking about this !
[Acer Iconia A500] lpachuong:
Another way is to reduce animation effect.
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
Thanks, I already removed the animation effects, but browsing the web is still not fluid.

Even the Android Market is not fluid ...
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Proof? or are you just trolling

Have you reset your tablet back to factory? From my experience with android, all it takes is one buggy program or one piece of malware to reduce system response.

Reset to factory and take a video of this 'lag' you have? Also, what website are you having issues with? And, have you tried a alternative browser?
[Acer Iconia A500] Bec07:
Stop trolling, send it back, something is wrong with it.

Unsubscribing, since you keep repeating the same thing.
[Acer Iconia A500] Vereynn:
Sorry, gotta agree here. Either you have a defective tablet, you're overstating the problem, or possibly you're comparing an iPhone scrolling across web pages with blank spots where Flash objects are being shown on your Acer. OTOH, that wouldn't explain the "Market is not fluid." Are you maybe on a ludicrously slow WiFi connection?
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
im going to agree with op here. My a500 isn't in the same league as my ipad or iPhone when it comes to scrolling or general fluidness. This is with flash disabled etc. And I mean not even remotely close. The xda site here is a perfect example.
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
Thanks a lot !!! Now I am not alone to see the truth ! But be careful, some people here don't like to be told something bad about the A500...
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
anyone who contends that their a500 is even close to as smooth as ios has never used ios. If they say they have, they're lying. Its really that big of a difference.

That said, its a pretty cool device still.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
Question:

Are you using the tablet in landscape mode, with front camera on the left ?

because you should know that a "glitch" android exist.... on any other position the tablet will be slower and the rendering will be slower than on that mere position.... weird but true.

it's a fact that the browser is not finalized yet and still need to wait for the update 3.1, it's a big part of the changelog.

Why don't you use the application ?

Go play with your iphone 3Gs then and stop crying here.

If you not happy with your Acer Iconia A500 you can still sell it, that will make someone else happy, you looks like a child doesn t get is toy at chrismas.

final

Have a big difference between reporting a problem, trying to find a solution

AND

keeping yelling A500 is bad, piece of ****.

IT S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT

- Android honeycomb is far to be finish and still in development

- Android is opensource and many people are working on the improvement of it

- Android can/could be compare to iOS like Linux and Windows (one people works on it, the other is a private code that only employee works on it)

- An update is ready and wait just final adjustement to be release aka 3.1 so WAIT

STOP comparing a PHONE and a TABLET it's stupid!

now as you should know

iOS have a strong coding and logic behind, running only what is necessary on demand, such as if I go on my email and turn the tablet, iOS will stop running (freeze it) the email process, run the process to rotate the window, then unfreeze the email process... that is why it's SMOOTH, because nothing else run behind.

the stock browser of iOS is quite good and not young, got experience and time, the tablet is not 1 month old.

I do have access to an iPAD as well since I have to check my web-apps on multiple device, so I do know how smooth it is.

I buy Acer Iconia A500 because that was the best choice for me, and I checked many tablet before, and play with them a time, not just go internet, check youtube etc... even some friend told me that the touch was not smooth, I got an antiglare film and it's really smooth and soft, i barelly put my finger on the screen to scrool...
[Acer Iconia A500] hiroko83:
I had an Iphone also that I have replaced last year with a Desire HD , I had the same feeling about smoothness at the begining , so I have tried the Lee Droid Rom for my DHD.

On of the feature of this custom ROM was to add some better transition between the app exactly as you would do with a power point between two slides, and exactly as apple does.

But I have realised that this has nothing to do with performance, as the web pages loads 20 to 40% faster on my DHD compared to my previous iphone.

Personnaly my A500 is running really fast , I can switch between applications in few milli seconds , my games works like a charm , my browsing experience is really close to what I get on my pc , I can plug my camera to download picture and send them to the cloud to share them in real time, and a lot of other cool features that will never be available on an ipad.

So I agree that Google needs to focus a little more on details such as increasing the smoothness of few milli seconds ,but to my opinion if details are more important to you that the performance and the overall potential of the device: the ipad would probably be a better choice for you.

:-)
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
This device is just not smooth, an iPad is 100% smooth.

So why shoudn't we say that ? Why can't we say the A500 is not smooth if we think it is not ??????

That's incredible ! Are we on a forum ? If yes, on a forum everyone can give its opinion without being considered as stupid because its opinion does not match with other opinions.

NO, THE A500 IS NOT SMOOTH !!!! Check an iPad and you'll see what's smooth and fluid. My disapointment comes from the fact the A500 has a Tegra 2 inside, I expected much more fluidity from it, so what's wrong with that ???

Now I understand we cannot talk more about this as this conversation is becoming steril (yes it is flui ... No it isn't ... And so on ...).

OK, so you are all right, the A500 is the best device ever made, we've never seen something so fluid and smooth for ... around 500$ ... We all did a good buy ! Let's kiss each other and thank Acer for this good work !

I'll stop now, have fun with your A500 ...
[Acer Iconia A500] e.mote:
Do you actually still use your Commie 64? Just wondering..
[Acer Iconia A500] babyboy8100:
Ill solve your problem...... buy yourself an I pad 2 be happy, keep drink apple's kool aid. Stop whining 4 pages about this? Really? Every page you said the same thing. :eek:
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
well if someone would chime in and just admit the device is laggy, he wouldn't have needed four pages to make his point. Its amazing all of the excuses everyone is making here. The device behaves like a PC with no video drivers installed and apparently we are supposed to think that's acceptable? And the fact that its only a month old is no excuse, if the software wasn't ready, google shouldnt have released it.
[Acer Iconia A500] hiroko83:
No need for beeing aggressive dude ...

Nobody said the iconia was smoother that the ipad , unless you can show us where ...

Keep in mind that people are talking about their own experience ( which might be different from your ), and many users have been trying to help you , by asking you question or giving you advice .

So we all know you are not please with you iconia because it is not smooth enough, we all know that you think that the ipad is doing hundred thousand times better.

But as it has been said many times there is no immediate solution.

So it is not a reason to get mad about people who are pleased with their iconia just because you are frustrated with your device.
[Acer Iconia A500] edgie168:
So go buy an ipad?

Do you even own a a500?

Sockpuppetry is so 2006.
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
I own an a500, an iPhone 4, and a captivate. Gf has I pad. (No matter how hard I try this iconia insists on putting a space between I and pad)

You think I'd come here to make this up? Grow up.
[Acer Iconia A500] blazingwolf:
Time to stop feeding the trolls. If you stop arguing with them they will go away.
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
not trolling, its a legitimate concern. I will say that many sites are smooth, xda is one of the worst ironically.
[Acer Iconia A500] edgie168:
member since '07, only 5 posts.

hmmmm.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
obvious troll is obvious

Dude: responding to this using my a500 and everything is perfect and smooth. Asked you a question; can you reset to defeult and record this problem you speak of? It's been two days since I first asked if you have restored to default and wondered what apps you are running - you have not responded and continue to complain without providing any details of your problem.

I am a rather new user to my a500 and new to the xda forums - it does not take a expert to assume you are obvious troll. Responding to this with my a500 and having no problems whatsoever; either you are doing it wrong or you have a faulty device.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJadZhyuz4U

S M O O T H nothing more nothing less... no need to argue. OP you post video or you just keep your mouth shut.

(my feedback about the browsing is horrible, it's because I use to develop webapp requiring effect... but actually.... in fact.... in reallllllll ON PC, FIREFOX is a dumbass as well.... flickering and shattered animation... I just want something better since the android use webkit and not the firef..x engine :D )
[Acer Iconia A500] jai134:
I don't care if a guy wants an iPad but is it really necessary to have a long thread about it. I'm using Android because it's a much nicer OS. IOS is boring and static Android is nice and flexible. I haven't had any problems with the browsing experience. It's mostly fluid. Same thing goes for the browsing with the Intel i7 3Ghz powered 6Gb RAM computer that I sold when buying my Iconia. There will allways be some sites that causes you problems
[Acer Iconia A500] hazard99:
sanaell while your browser is super smooth mine is not like that. I Just recently purchased mine and have not done any updates. I do not understand the naming conventions of the updates there for I havent attempted it. I do have to say yours isnt what I see.

I get a lot of blank spots for a second then it fills in. It doesnt bother me but as a neutral party I thought Id throw my say in.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
well...

- I made a factory reset few days ago, and didn't install anything much (few games and applications but nothing too much)

- I got the OTA update 139.04 (I think the fact I register my product in acer website is for something, and also register them with acer registration)

- I use the stock browser

- I didn't kill any application before the test

- I barrely touch the screen (really I mean it)

- I didn't root my tablet

So maybe your tablet is defective.

I am sad to hear tablets are not same in every country, and glad to be lucky so.

I made this video with my Acer Liquid Metal HD720p...
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
My experience

Bought my a500 a few days ago - still on the 1.104.02 build, have not gotten the option to update anything yet.

It's fast and loads most any website with no issues. Video playback via internal flash or external micro SD is great. Occasional dropped frame when streaming via flash or stream app, but very enjoyable.

All in all; I love this thing :-)
[Acer Iconia A500] hazard99:
No need to be sad and i wouldnt call it defective. I like it very much
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
OP is dead ? hahahaha we killed the troll :D

yipeeeee nian nian nian nian nian nian nian nian nian nian nian nian nian epic CAT !

hazard try a factory reset and install usefull and no bloatware (beside the acer's one) and make a try again

Try update with http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1113878 this is usefull for those doesn t get OTA yet :D
[Acer Iconia A500] beaups:
What's your point? I've been lingering around this forum for years. Never posted because, well, people like you.
[Acer Iconia A500] praun:
I don't understand why no one is using opera browser??

it is missing flash at the moment, but for everything else it is fantastic!

on my galaxy s opera is bad at multi tasking but on the iconia its just perfect!

I always test browsers on xda website on the new theme. and opera beat all other browsers!
[Acer Iconia A500] hiroko83:
20 to 30% of the web site I am visiting ( for professional and personal use ) use flash, switching between Opera and the stock browser would not be convenient to me.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
well...

Stock browser works perfect for me, and supports flash. No reason for me to use anything else.
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
I tried all (maybe not all) existing browser for android 3.0...

STOCK BROWSER....is the best for my purpose :D

removed all others...

I am webdev.... and I hate firefox on my computer at work, I let other dev fix the firefox issues :D so I will not install it on my tablet *I tried it already*

Opera... so so.

Maybe if safari is "release" for android that will make the balance for change.

or

CHROME!
[Acer Iconia A500] umanko:
But dolphin HD is better then stock browser .
[Acer Iconia A500] sanaell:
more detail ?

saying it's better doesn't make it better.

- I don't like Dolphin because need to load a tons of addons etc... from market to get something full...

fullscreen... is one of those... that should be a part of the software more like just a plugins not an "application"
[Acer Iconia A500] strikethree:
If I were to guess, I would say he puts that in his sig to give him an old school hackerish type of flair. It lends more credence when he claims the lack of fluidity sent him in to an epileptic episode.

YES, the a500 is not as smooth as an iPad. I own both. I was hoping some rational discussion would occur here but this whole thread is a troll-fest. The scrolling problems are just not THAT serious. Some polishing is all that is needed.

Does anyone have any tips on how an end user could "polish" their experience?

strike
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
What's incredible is that most of you take it personnally when I just say "The A500 is not smooth enough for me". You answer like if I was insulting you or your familly ... Keep cool guys and stop trying to hurt me !

Regarding the C64, yes I own some (even an educator 64 !), along with some other collectible computers like a working Apple Lisa.
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
you must have some problem, as mine scrolls fast and fine.Take it back
[Acer Iconia A500] Fluffbutt:
It doesn't??? You need to tell that to my Opera - flash is working fine in it (embedded movies and youtube, not tried any game swf's yet).
[Acer Iconia A500] Fluffbutt:
One thing I have definitely noticed about you humans is your inability to separate your purchases (owned items) from yourselves (your physical person).. this applies to beliefs as well.

These people see your criticism of the A500 as an attack on THEM personally because they have bought one (as if you're saying they're stupid for buying it because it's 'not smooth').

It's the exact same system of logic a Muslim fanatic uses - disagree with his choice of god and you are attacking him personally, so he retaliates personally.
[Acer Iconia A500] bpivk:
It doesn't work on my device. And it even said so when I've installed it.
[Acer Iconia A500] dizzy33:
That's it exactly ! But that's a big problem because on a forum your shouldn't have to talk only about the good things, but also about the bad things and that is not possible apparently ...

Anyway I hope the 3.1 will give the A500 a lot of smooth. In fact, before buying the A500 I saw the following video regarding the Samsung Galaxy SII, and it convinced me that a dualcore CPU will let Android to be at least as smooth as an iPhone/iPad :

http://www.androidgen.fr/samsung-galaxy-ii-2-video-navigation-actualite-742.html

I thought it would be the same with the A500 as it is a dual core ... That's why I'm disapointed.