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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
I have been using this rom for about a week now and I am really liking it so far as opposed to CM7 I was running before, I love the new sens 3.0 and think this rom is awesome!

However there are a few things I noticed that needs some fixing imo.

- Apps that need to "stick" in the notification bar for functional reasons seem to get closed every now and then. E.g. tasker, Swipepad, ScreenshotIt.

- Whatsapp and sms notifications dissapear automatically without being intentionally cleared.

- General lag for notifications from Market (installing app, app updated etc)

- Apps like Folder Organizer and App2SD which give a notification after an app has installed lockup the phone for a minute or 2 when their notifications popup.

- The notification led sometimes stays on (amber) without apparent reason (no low battery and not charging)

In general I think there are some bug to be fixed regarding notification handling.

As for the rest I really like this rom! You guys are doing an awesome job.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Abaddon:
is there a way to enable the trackpad notification w/o the use of lightflow app?

I miss how the stock rom notification does work :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] coszy:
@Diamondback2010

Thank you for your intel
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] patoberli:
I recently have a problem that seems to become more and more of an issue. I run 1.31 on my desire z.

It seems that my mobile kills Apps very early. For example, I have now 105MB of free memory (shown in the pulldown menu). Let's start the normal Music player, start a track. Still some 80MB free. Let's start now a game (or sometimes even just the browser), play some seconds and pang, music player is dead. It also dissappears from the pulldown menu, so it's really dead.

I guess that is done by the memory management of android?

And I though android apps are capped to 16MB of memor? Or is that an old limitation?

Thanks,

pato
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
@pimmr and pato

A lot of the issues you have reported are due to the lack of ram that the DZ has. Sense 3.0 is a heavy os that wasn't designed for our phones. For handsets like the dhd that have 768mb of ram which is the same as the sensation unity is almost perfect.

The DZ only has 512mb of ram so multi tasking is difficult. I have had the same issues you report. I use andchat on my phone and I have it running all the time, but if I play a game 9 times out of 10 andchat will close. It's annoying.

But I have been testing a possible solution this week, which come the next release you may hear more about. It's not a perfect fix but will help alot.

So stay tuned :)

Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
Hey and thanks for your feedback! I will patiently await a fix or workaround! Like I said its just awesome that we can run sense 3.0 on our DZs!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] patoberli:
Cool thanks :) Looking forward to it!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
My current weather has a glitch. I cant seem to update the current weather, i can only update the weather of the city ii choose. The current location weather always says no weather data avalible. If i try to update it will just say updating for a min then stop. Any ideas on a fix?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] aliasi11:
ROM is very good..

Initially it run very smoothly but after passing few days it became slow and laggy.

Is there any thing I am mistaking or using wrongly?

HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ivifly:
Try to switch off the phone during the night.

Ivi

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] monomer888:
You could always try and see if the fix that mputtr posted in the Virtuous Sense 2 thread might work?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ykizonzolo:
This ROM is just Awsome!!!!

But I have only one thing to report : The battery drains too fast.. Before, withe the 1.27 release, i could last at least 2 days with a normal use, but now it's more about one day, I can't hope more, even if I downgrade the overclock rate...

Is there a fix ?

Thanks and sorry for my english level, but hope you got it ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bombadier:
er explain???????????????
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bombadier:
I have that sometimes and suspect data connection problems(Wifi or data),either it sorts itself out or I reboot and it works again,

Any word about getting the lockscreen weather to update nicely?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
So i went through titanium and froze over half the sense apps/packages and with that plus the unity kernel oc'd to 1.2-1.5ghz this rom is as smooth as butter. Thanks again Virtuous team!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Which sense apps did you freeze? I might try it to speed up my preformance on this rom even more.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Isolect:
MMS

Is anyone else receiving pictures extremely small? is there a way to fix that issue?

Tmobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
Search before you post
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
I would like to know this as well, I tried the ROM cleaner script and modified it a little bit but somehow a lot of apps seemed to be removed which were not in the script, e.g. Clockworkmod Rom Manager reported "error when launching activity" and I had to reinstall through Market.

Luckily I did a Nandroid backup :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Isolect:
I have searched. how about you help me out instead since you seem to know.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jcizzle:
Hi im having issues with the weather lockscreen..

i know its supposed to change during nightime (darker) and daytime right?

i noticed im barely getting the nightime one. sometimes ill get the nightime one (with the moon, clouds, stars and everything ) and then after a few minutes.. when i lock and unlock my phone again.. it goes back to the daytime one.. (just clouds and its lighter)

anyone having the same issues? is there a way to fix this?

also.. sometimes my homescreen icons dont show up correctly.. i have to delete them and put them back.. any ideas?

thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] silverwind:
I don't have this kind of problems:)

Have you try hard reset?

Cheers
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Did you modify the ram cleaning script. You need to modify it to change what the script deletes
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] simonho1989:
Just new to this rom and have used this rom (1.31.0) for a week

Very impressed with sense 3.0 and the widgets are really useful. The short coming are low free ram with only around 70-75MB. Also there are sine occasion that the device reboot automatically.

Also, i am using a Hong Kong Version of desire z, after flashing this rom, my physical keyboard can only type english but cannot switch to other chinese input method like before in the official hong kong rom. I can only use the onscreen keyboard to type chinese now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
What part of "and modified it a little bit" didn't you understand? ;)

I only deleted the lines that would have removed Polaris office, Music and Friends stream widget and where it said it could affect navigation.

But I am positive some apps were removed/not working anymore that were not in the script.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
No you didnt. Search for the term small mms in this thread. If you cant find it then I know you didnt make an effort.

Can't search for you since the xda app cant do search.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
the fix has been solved many times. just try to search more throughly
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
Ok here's the rundown:

android live wallpapers

arabic keyboard

auto-sync

blue sky

burgundy

calculator widget

com.htc.dcs

com.htc.demflo

com.htc.laputa

com.htc.laputa.w

data dashboard

data roaming

facebook for htc

fm radio widget

friend stream 3

friend stream 3

friend stream widget

htc hub

htc hub sync

htc sense live wallpaper

htc slideshow

live wallpaper picker

location picker

location widget

locations

locations launcher

magic smoke wallpaper

messages widget

music

music enhancer

music visualization wallpapers

music widget

my shelf

news 3.0

news widget

photo album

photo grid

photo widget

polaris

power dashboard

profile widget

quick lookup

reader

ringtone trimmer

ringtone widget

screen brightness

screen timeout

scribble

settings auto rotate

settings widget

setup 3.0

setup wizard

skin picker

sound recorder

stock widget

stocks 3.0

stocks 3.0

streak live wallpaper

sync widget

talk

trends widget

trim it

trip widget

twitter widget

voice recorder

watch

watch widget

Let me know if you've removed any others and obviously if you want to use certain apps or widgets i've removed don't freeze those. With these removed i have 124mb free on the system rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Lots of the stuff on ur list have already been deleted with my ram cleaner script :D but ill try it, thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
I tried the newest version of your ram cleaner script and it resulted in sense constantly FC'ing :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
oh forgot, for the removal via titanium backup, should i unistall or force remove app?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
I froze them all, made a backup (just in case lol) and then batch uninstalled them.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
i only removed a few of your items and now have 130MB of free ram :D THANKS. also i forgot to make a backup for the 3 items i removed :eek: of well, they werent that important.

also one more thing, what do these apps do?

com.htc.dcs

com.htc.demflo
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
I'll be honest...i have no idea lol. All i know is removing them hasn't affected anything yet. I'm going to try and keep removing more things by trial and error and eventually i'll have this really slim. But now that the new beta is out i might move on to that!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Good day to you all.

I just wanted to give you heads up as to what my role is in the Virtuous Dev team.

With the growing popularity of the Virtuous Unity the team felt in appropriate to appoint me as community manager. As the project grows the development team wish to spend more time working on the actual ROM. They will still be monitoring all the threads but it is my job to try and offer support to all Virtuous users.

You are welcome to PM me with any thoughts, suggestions and bugs to do with the Virtuous Unity project. If you ever need one to one support or just want a chat. I suggest that you hop over to the #virtuousrom irc channel where I can be found most of the time.

I also wanted to let you know about our teams policy on beta releases. Beta's are not posted on XDA and official support is also not available on XDA. Because a Rom is in beta we need to be able to easily keep track of any issues you may be having. So we ask if you have a bug to report or need support of any kind that you come to the #virtuousrom irc, the link can be found in my sig. You are also welcome to PM me with bug reports but please ensure you give as much detail as possible and include screen shots if appropriate.

I'm also open to any general comments or questions, I have a very limited knowledge of actually dev work. But I do know a little about a lot.

Cheers

Cjward23

The voice of Virtuous
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Stea1thmode:
massive congrats CJ,

you'd be a brilliant community manager,

best wishes and keep on keeping on:cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
I have removed almost all apps in the list above using Titanium, (froze the apps > filter on frozen apps > batch uninstalled) and rebooted, however I can't seem to notice the kind of improvement of RAM footprint you guys mention... I had about 70Mb before, and now its about 74Mb. What am I doing wrong? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darrenkellum:
Hi guys,

I think I've worked out that this sense 3.0 doesnt rotate yet on the g2 right? Does that mean that things like composing an email or sms also dont rotate or do they work fine in landscape with the keyboard still?

thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
The only thing that wont rotate is the homescreen everything else will :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
Oh i think we were referring to the system rom shown on the main screen of titanium. If you go into settings > applications > running applications there will definitely be more free ram showing, but dont judge by what the task manager says in the status bar.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Also what do the scribble and trim it apps do, if they arent imporant to me then i might remove it. Also you can try to use autokiller memory app to find out how much real free ram you have. Also its a better taskmanager than the default one.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] aliasi11:
Is it possible to have scrolling wallpaper..?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
No, it was removed by HTC. Scrolling wallpaper can look a bit odd when going from the last screen to the first.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rajbaba2:
Does anyone have small pictures be recieved in mms. Please help
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ZilverZurfarn:
Flame warning! Yes, it's been asked (and answered) uncountable times already in this thread. Try Search.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
there is a fix in this thread
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pusaran:
wan to ask is ther anyway to backup my linked contact(facebook & facebook for htc sense)?coz it is vr troublesome everytime i wipe n install new rom thn i'll hv to re-link all the contact>.<
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Innocent Devil:
@cjward23 congrats,

and Ihave one request for the dev team.

to remove european volume limitation

Having very low volume from earphones is really sad thing. :(

I already posted it somewhere down the thread.., may be got missed...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
The kernel unity v4 has a 20% audio boost for sense roms i believe. You can try that kernel
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Maybe try backing up facebook app or htc facebook vie titanum backup?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pusaran:
i'll try backup n update frm 1.29 to 1.31

bcoz of linked contact problem,i stop at 1.29XD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
You are right. In running applications it also shows about 160Mb now. Strange that the status bar shows about half, thats what my widget to show free ram also shows...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] timhesselmans:
I've installed this rom about a week ago on my DZ and i'm loving it. I just have one issue. My phone was crashing randomly so I downloaded and applied the patch, and thought the issue was gone, as my phone didn't freeze for about a day. But two days ago it started freezing again. So I applied the patch again, but it didn't resolve the issue... What can I do?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
You can try to do a superwipe on your phone and flash the rom again. Just make sure you backup your phone beforehand
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
I know it's odd that the status bar task manager is way off from whats actually going on :S
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
Again i'm not entirely sure, I assume the trim it app has to do with selecting parts of a song to make a ringtone? But I've never used it and have had no problems with them removed.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evilcuber:
Because in the task manager app you need to push refresh inorder to get an accurate amount of free ram
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pearse:
Ahh good to know, thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bradley_e_smith:
Has anyone got cisco any coonect working? I get the message that about taptun driver doesn't meet the requirements. Also i did the insmod /system/lib/modules/tun.ko

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] noneabove:
Hey guys couple things ive noticed: if im running something more.. strenuous? and hit the home button, sometimes itll go to a black screen for a few seconds then reboot

also ive noticed leaving camera app that the screen gets stuck at full brightness

after i "turn off" or "hibernate" (and for the record, it seems like hibernate is full power off, like same as removing the battery) things seem to glitch a bit until i reboot..

has anyone else noticed, or even better, gotten past these problems? thanks in advanced!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] simonho1989:
Yes, i have the same issue with you. After herbinate , the alarm wont work

The auto brightness is an issue though not a big deal
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Hi guys if you are on the beta please use our bug tracker http://bugs.unity.flemmard.net/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
there is a workaround for the auto brightness problem.

search the thread. You should've known to do this since you had to watch the video (that is in my signature) on what to do on XDA.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darrenkellum:
Hi, just had the signal drop out a couple of times while on a call.

Im using the radio that was included in the G2 to z Hboot guide page Zip file.

Should the radios on the [RADIO] [UPDATED 8/8/11]HTC VISION RADIO's (PC10IMG.zip Update Files & .img files) thread be compatible with this rom?

If so i'll go try some others to see if any better.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Pimmr:
The latest in that thread is working fine for me, no dropouts or bad signal.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Try the radio in my Sig, It's the one that came with the official ota for the gingerbread update on the dz
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darrenkellum:
ok will try that, thanks, incase its worth flicking back to the one in that pack, what one is built into it?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] redpoint73:
You sure its a reboot? If it shows the HTC logo for a few seconds, then goes back to your home screen, its probably just the Sense launcher restarting. Sense 3.0 uses lots more memory than older versions. So the launcher will frequently get kicked out of memory when you run more memory intensive apps. Meaning the launcher has to restart when you hit the home button.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Innocent Devil:
yes..

but it still doesn't stand up to the volume level of my stock rom,cm7 or MIUI.

I was trying with volumeboost app, on unity it provides volumeboost what i needed but when with simultaneously running other thing like checking friendstream,opening browser, unity seems to exit the background app of volumeboost (dunno may be short of RAM) so i have to bring it to foreground to regain the volume.

This is very distracting. suddenly volume going down and up..

Thats why i requested for removal of this in the kernel itself.

I didn't had this problem in my stock Indian ROM, sound was loud enough.

So there will be some setting in kernel or in android audio subsystem to remove this limitation.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Detafewa:
Btw. the new Virtuous Unity 2.33.0 Beta: http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/08/announcement-of-vituous-unity-2330-beta.html

Doesn't seem like a lot of people noticed this yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
Which part of the rules where they specifically stated that the thread is NOT for beta talk did you not understand? Leave the beta stuff where it belongs. In the virtuousrom irc chatroom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] taob:
To be fair, it does not say that anywhere...

... in the OP of this thread

... on any of the pages linked to in the OP

... in the blog post about the beta

... in the blog post titled "What's the goal and how to deal with a BETA version?"

... in the Virtuous ROM FAQ

... in cjward's recent post that specifically mentions the beta

Now that the OP has finally been updated with the DZ hboot warning, maybe someone in the Virtuous team can add the thing about "no beta discussions in this thread" too, if it's that important to them. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
Taob, he might not say it word for word, but if you read this part of the quote, it is obvious that betas are not to be discussed as part of the rom development in this specific thread. Considering as well that he mentioned that betas are to be talked about elsewhere, it most probably screams, NOT HERE.

So I do get annoyed when people don't care to follow instructions. (Not at you taob, since you've had a good track record.) But seriously, for alot of the newcomers. Search before you post. It is freakin annoying when the same questions are asked repeatedly and requests to not do things are ignored.

It's ok the be a newb since you're still learning. It's asking for a flame to be a noob and ignore basic rules (of the forum and common sense.).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
if "BlueLube" or "TheGame" from IRC happen to see this, hop on IRC... I had some router issues and couldn't get on the net, I was in the middle of trying to help you... sorry about the inconvenience!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] taob:
I don't think that is clear enough, if that is his intention. He clearly states that no support will be given on XDA, and that bug reports need to be filed with the online tracker. Now, if the Virtuous team really means no discussion is allowed, and that the link to any beta announcements are not to be reposted elsewhere, they need to be much clearer on that point. No skin off my back, though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
Here's my question then. when someone tells you to bring your concerns to the customer service department and that you will not get support anywhere else, do you go to the electronics department or to the customer service department? it's that simple.

When he specifically directs you to a place, it obviously means that it wont be dealt with here in this thread therefore his intentions is to not have beta discussions here in this thread.

that's all.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
My apologies for any confusion in this matter I thought I was being clear.