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[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Sensors work fine with Froyo on Evo. Let me rephrase, will Sammy make the sensors work fine on the new phone? Anything that requires use of the magnetometer or the accelerometer is painful... Honestly, this is the only thing that's swaying me towards the other phone. Oh, and I'm afraid that they will repeat the GPS fiasco.
[Epic 4G General] professoroak:
Hm, everyone seems to have so little faith in Samsung!! I think they'll do better with the WiThin than the Epic. Can't really mess things up twice without addressing those issues. Nearly all reviews for the GSII are already the highest for any smartphone, specifically higher than the Evo 3D.

Plus when/if the WiThin gets CM7 (or CM8?) it's probably game over for the Evo. The hardware specs for the WiThin are better than the Evo.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I'm very optimistic about the SGs2 as well. If the Epic was your first Samsung experience, then I can see why one might be a little weary about the next version. But coming from another Samsung device (Moment), the Epic is a major improvement.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
I think part of the reason for the poor GPS and what not is that it came out Samsung was ready to release the Galaxy S line with a different company's (and possibly better) GPS software and Google flexed their muscles at the last minute forcing Samsung to ditch it because it would have cost Google the ability to collect location information for their database. So all their coding and drivers were optimized for a non Google product when they released the phone.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Actually, Epic was the "twice". If they mess up this phone, it would be thrice.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
This
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
With the SGSII coming to all the different carriers with different names to them. Will there be a seperate forum for each one or will they all be combined under SGSII? It will just be a pain with all the different SGSII being together.

"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Those are the same differences with the Epic ---> Within.

- Super Amoled

Plus

- Dual Core

- Updated Hardware
[Epic 4G General] klbjr:
What to do? What to do? Damn the GSII looks great and every review has it as the best Android phone yet but I hate TouchWiz and love Sense. Plus I'm a little weary of Samsung after the Epic debacle. Looks like I may be opening up another line. Damn! Cell phone purchases shouldn't be this stressful!
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I'm stuck in the same shell. The only thing really pushing me towards the Evo 3D is the release date. LOL

I love Amoled/Touchwiz, but I also love HTC's development community/Sense.
[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
I'm going for the SII. The camera on it is incredible, and I'll just ditch Touchwiz again for Launcher Pro.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Do you have more info on this?
[Epic 4G General] digijuan:
having the evo first since june 4 2010, i wasn't impressed with the battery life and the 8 mp camera. I then bought the epic and replaced the evo. The screen and camera is so much superior to the evo, but I miss the evo and it's support and community.

more than likely I will be getting the evo 3d and never looking back at a samsung phone again, I should have stuck with that idea after i bought my samsung rant.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Htc e3d vs. Sgs2... reminds me alot of my epic vs the evo. Epic wins hands down. My evo sucks hardware wise to the epic. Htc always has a knack for making something suck on they're phones. Like the sensation, awesome phone. ****ty lcd. Same with the evo. ****ty screen combined with a ****ty gpu. And this might go against the popularity contest but I prefer the build quality of my epic to the evo. Buddy just got an evo shift 4g. One drop from the kitchen table.. shattered screen. Oh im sorry better build quality? Bull****. I dropped my epic on cement multiple times with no scratches, dents, cracks. Ill take the plastic please. And as far as devs? I've said it before ill say it again. Dev support doesn't equal a better phone. They all achieve the same thing unless a rom is built from the ground up. If I had to take a guess there will be more devs on the gs2. The phone is selling extremely well. And since all variations would be the same cept for radios porting roms should be easy peasy. People. Of you think the evo3d is better your in denial or have some inferiority complex. The samoled screen alone is enough to take the ball. As always.. just ma 2¢ though.

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[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I was really torn between the EVO 3D and the S2

First I heard the EVO 3D would have a locked bootloader, but then HTC stated they would unlock their phones. I will beleive it when I see an unlocked EVO 3D in the wild

Add to that, Samsung itself gave the Cyanogenmod team a S2, and I really will be hard pressed not to chose the S2 over the EVO 3D

I have both an Epic and and EVO, and the Epic is BY FAR, a much better phone.

Not just the screen, but better battery life, and MUCH better toughness. While the EVO may feel "made better", real world drop tests show it can't come close to the toughness of my Epic. I have dropped my Epic more times than I can count with no damage, yet a single drop from the tables cracked the edge of my GF's EVO

If the Cyanogenmod team actually grants official support for the S2, IMO, this makes the choice a no brainer.

The only reason I can think of to get the EVO 3D, is if you actually want the 3D feature.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/12/google-android-skyhook-lawsuit-motorola-samsung/#6
[Epic 4G General] Jed Dignazio:
Just curious, what is the hype with CM7 all about?

I mean it has yet to even be fully functional on the Epic.

Basic functions of the phone are still useless:

GPS

Camera

Multimedia Messaging

Bluetooth In-Call (Hands-Free Profile)

WiMax 4G (This is absolute LAST priority, DON'T ASK ABOUT IT)

Does anybody actually use CM7??

Granted I havent tried it, but why would I without these functional?

Anyways I think I am leaning toward the SGS2 myself. I just dont think I could go back from Amoled screens. Amoled + higher resolution= perfect!

Unless I am really impressed with the 3d display, which I dought.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Cyanogen mod is build from scratch. Not put together with source. Hence cyanogen can do ANYTHING they want. There's no touchwiz or sense buried deep. Just pure customized android goodness. I just read sammy gave atinM a gs2 for the sole purpose of getting cyanogen developed for it. It seems sammy is not only going for the commercial smartphone crown against apple, but the underground crown htc currently holds. Samsung just pwned the android world. A gs2 is what im getting. This probably explains why the gs2 will be the same across carriers. Sammy has also gotten rid of the fragmentation that riddled the original galaxy s across different carriers. Kudos sammy, kudos. Ps I still hate your tv's :)

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[Epic 4G General] Jed Dignazio:
Any word on tv-out functionality on the SGS2?
[Epic 4G General] bartoloandre98:
I'm an HTC fanboy but this sgs2 with it screen and better specs plus cyanogenmod and maybe darkys rom managed to convert me :)
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Dev support was one of the reasons the sgs didn't do as well as htc in our world. Maybe samsungjohn was real and sammy truly respects our community. This is enough for any android fanboy to get an sgs2 now. What reason would there be now?? Lol by the time we get our sgs2 chances are there will already be a working version of cyanogenmod. I am truly excited. I've been waiting for it for so long to be finished on the epic to no avail. Not a problem I understand why. But now its gonna be the real deal and not a port on the sgs2.

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[Epic 4G General] professoroak:
CM7 is an amazing rom on any phone, it's just not complete for us yet. But in my experience it is incredibly quick and snappy, as well as stable. I flashed a bunch of various Sense roms on my mom's evo, but there were always bugs and they always seemed slightly laggy. But once I finally flashed CM7 there were practically no problems at all and her phone ran silky smooth all the time. In addition to the reliability and speed, there are a bunch of other caked-in features with CM7 like the theme manager, lock screen customization, special browser, and more. That's why there is so much hype about CM7, at least for me that's why I'm excited. :)
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
This

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[Epic 4G General] 420247paul:
+1 to this dropped mine from the roof of a walmart on to concrete and it survived like a champ.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I called Sprint today and had them give me eligibility for a SECOND line. So if the EVO 3D doesn't work out, I'll be able to sell it (switch back to my Epic on my mother's phone line), and upgrade to the Samsung Within with the EVO money. Depends on how much I like the EVO to decide...:p
[Epic 4G General] froyotlbw88:
The Evo 3D looks nice but it has a lot of unnecessary crap that I'll never use. I'll stick with Samsung. Samsung everything. I can wait. I just got my epic 7 months ago anyway.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
SGSII will have HDMI out, not sure about aux out.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Holy **** lmao ive dropped my epic on numerous occasions but aside from 1 or 2 mini scratches cause by sand in my pockets... perfect.

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[Epic 4G General] Wildheathen0341:
I've never had an issue with the three Epic's in my family nor the two Evo Shift's. Now the one Evo 4G turned out to be a disaster, terrible screen, camera, & slow; in fact the only upside is CM7. I never found anything wrong with the Epic. A lot of people complained about the build quality on the Epic when compaired to the Evo but they're both plastic phones. I'm more than pleased with my Syndicate ROM, Viper ROM was also great. I'm more interested in good, fast, & stable ROM's as oppossed to a bunch of different ones.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Lol hero vs moment... I bought a moment... Maybe a bad choice... Evo vs epic ... I bought a epic... Great choice... Evo3d vs sgs2... Going to buy the sgs2 know that for sure... Hope I don't miss mario though I love my game gripper :|
[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
I'm actually on my 3rd Epic. First one was returned on launch day because of the back button issue. 2nd was because the earpiece went out. Now the one I have has an occasional back button issue....:-/
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I personally will wait till they release the quad core phones..since multicore support only comes ice cream and apps taking advantage of multiple cores will start to appear by then.

If I were in the market and had to choose SGS2 vs Evo 3d Id take SGS2...I care less for the 3d gimmick..I mean its something I will show off to my friends once or twice and never use again :/

My choice though is based simply on hardware specs..the SGS2 is superior on multiple counts

Screen: Tie as one has qhd and 3d while the other is super amoled plus

Processor: SGS2 as higher productivity score

GPU: Ill give it a tie for now due to resolution effects

ROM: SGS2 has more rom

Camera: Unkown as we have yet to see the HTC camera, but HTC is not known for their cameras

LED: Evo has dual LED..even though it makes no difference

FFC: SGS2 as 2mp

Weight: SGS2 is lighter

Battery: Evo3d has bigger battery

wifi:SGS2 has 5ghz support

Thickness: SGS2 is thinner

NFC: SGS2 actually has one

Hardware hd encryption: SGS2 has encryption

Codecs: SGS2 has more codecs

As far as community goes..Samsung is growing with an fast rate...a lot the delays are mostly due to people being more familiar with HTC devices rather then Samsung devices.

I mean lets look at xda and use only the i9000 as a bases..dev forum has 278,965 Posts..the most popular HTC phone has around 400,000 Posts...its doing fairly well to catch up in such a short time..I expect the SGS2 will grow out even bigger in comparison and catch up to HTC..mostly with what they did with giving out free phones to devs...If you look at comments on engadget a lot of ppl are choosing SGS2 over Evo 3d just based on that lol
[Epic 4G General] bartoloandre98:
Imo just wait for Google nexus 3
[Epic 4G General] bricky23:
So, really on the fence with this one. I think its just like now with the evo and epic. Epic has great display, and a little faster. But evo has the dev support. I want Miui on the phone that I get. So will the GS2 get the dev support? I am sure the 3d will, but not sure about the GS2. Don't want to be stuck with slow updates and no fully working cm7 or Miui. What to do? Oh I no.....mno I don't.:confused:
[Epic 4G General] bartoloandre98:
Idk but Samsung is helping a lot the dev community so that may change
[Epic 4G General] Pettro:
Here are my two cents:

SGS II vs. Evo 3D, I'd go for the SGS overall, but here are my reasons:

I'm a photographer primarily, most of my income comes from it.

Camera:The Epic took snapshots well enough to be framed and the newer SGS II seems to be continuing the tradition, in fact using some proprietary lenses that Samsung themselves made. Given Samsung develops DSLR bodies and lenses used in video/photography production, I will gladly go with Samsung. Even if the Evo 3D were to have 12 megapixels, one thing they can't seem to understand is that what makes the camera is the sensor and the lenses used.

Hardware:After learning the rooting process, the first thing I did was overclock the living daylights out of my Epic. The Evo 4G, with all its massive support, couldn't touch the speed of my Epic on even pre-alpha based roms. The SGS II seems to continue the tradition of souped-up hardware capable of producing far better results than the Evo 3D in real world usage.

Support:It took some time for Samsung to pick up but now it is off its ground. Continually listening to their costumers to make up for the horrible rep they received for the first generation of the Samsung Galaxy devices. The act of actually sending a test unit to a developer of the CyanogenMod community (and according to some twitter message, GalaxySupport sent a copy of the Galaxy S II to SuperCurio (maker of Voodoo) as well). That in itself speaks volumes.

Community:Though not as strong as the HTC community - yet - it IS getting there. Many users are jumping ship and continually offering help towards many people interested in taking their stock phones to the next level.

Camera (Hacked):Recently a user came up with the ability to overcrank the camera's capabilities of recording at 1080p and 720p at much higher bitrates. For the video enthusiast, this makes your phone capable of recording like the much more expensive DSLRs.

Before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDrhPODgI4&feature=related

After hack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtmualX_w_E&feature=related

Screen:Perhaps the biggest reason for any of this is the new SAMOLED Plus display. It can reproduce far better, and clearer, colors than the Evo 3D can. In fact with a bit of tweaking you can overcrank that screen to "qHD" resolution and see far better pixel density than you would on the Evo 3D.

Anywho, those are just my thoughts. I'm going to be most likely getting that SGS II, it looks appealing and the amount of support, not to mention the ability of ACTUALLY tweaking built-in hardware such as the camera is a total plus.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
Plusone. Wow didn't know you can do that with the corder. Looks awesome. That's better video than my 5 and 6mp canon and Sony digicams.

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[Epic 4G General] cbpagent72:
The whole 3D thing is a gimmick. I can barely stand to watch 3D IMAX movies and really feel like it was worth it. I have checked out many 3D tv's and left unimpressed and feeling like it is only made for the suckers who want to brag that they have a 3D tv. Now a 3D phone sounds like a huge marketing ploy but it is working it has all the suckers running out to grab one so they can tell everyone they have a 3D phone, will they use the 3D feature probably not. Keep your 3D gimmicky slcd and give me a 4.3" super amoled plus.
[Epic 4G General] Pettro:
Haha.

Well I do have a 3DS as well, can't say the 3D thing isn't effective. I saw it actually being used PROPERLY on the classic "3D" remake of ExciteBike. Now that really impressed me. And the fact you don't need glasses is a very nice plus.

However, overall the market is saturating the fact they have "3D" to make a quick buck. To add that, in the way they use it, is nothing more than a simple filter that displaces color and uses glasses to stitch them together to create a final image. That filter is barely worth any money to include in the product.
[Epic 4G General] imjimmy:
So WHEN is the Galaxy S2 coming to Sprint? I got an email that the Evo 3d is available on June 24th. But no news on Galaxy S2. Is it weeks or months away? Hopefully it will be launched this year at the least..

Also does the Galaxy S2 have a hardware keyboard? That was the only reason I chose Epic over Evo..
[Epic 4G General] tenaciousj:
I heard end of July for release and no keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] FrameCityJackal:
I'm looking for a beefed up phone on sprint, with a keyboard after my phone is done.

I barely use it but comes handy when typing long messages or emails...
[Epic 4G General] froyotlbw88:
You could always try the transform ;-)

Sent from Tim's Epic via Tapatalk
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
That would be a complete downgrade in every aspect
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
SGS2 as HTC does not support their phones ;)

HTC just pulled a Samsung Behold incident lol

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056

>.>
[Epic 4G General] Ron_91:
"Sgs2 is gonna have problems just like the epic."

Uh, no. You're forgetting the sgs2 has already been released overseas and has been one of the most popular phones there since release day.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Not just a Samsung Behold Incident, but a Samsung Moment one as well

Thankfully Samsung makes pretty good hardware, and I can rely on the Devs to fix the SW ;)

The stock Moment was trash, but the modded Moment was decent enough for me to consider getting an Epic. Thankfully. :cool:
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
No, its a samsung behold incident..the moment was the htc hero incident....

Difference being this..both Moment and Hero were discontinued and sprint just gave an excuse for both being hardware reasons.

Thing about behold and this incident is the manufacturer

promised

a newer os and then didn't deliver saying its hardware reasons...

In the behold incident Samsung promised Android 2.0 from 1.5 and like the Desire then backed out saying it was impossible due to hardware reasons and then just updated to 1.6 and called it a day. People got pretty pissed and thats where the "Samsung does not support their phones" came from..

Now that HTC did it and with a top end phone too..so lets see how this plays out >.>
[Epic 4G General] JokeZony0u:
HTC definitely supports there phones and that's why I'd go to HTC...tired of the crappy support from Samsung
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Just like they support their HTC desire? ;)

Btw, which phone did you have that samsung did not support?
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
EVO 3D. I'm honestly not impressed with Samsung's complete dog-**** treatment of the customers. I've owned 4 HTCs, and I'm happy with them. I do however think the Epic is a better phone than the standard EVO in just about every way, however, lack of support and dealing with samsung dragging their ass has left a very bad aftertaste.

The phone is really 90% of the equation, but software is 90% as well. A phone isn't a great phone unless it has both the features and the software. The fact we didn't have 2.2 on the epic before 2.3 was released on damn near the EXACT phone just pissed me off (and judging from the posts during the whole debacle, everyone else too). And based on that fact, there is absolutely NO REASON we should not have been given 2.3 instead of 2.2.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
I used to use it quite a bit, but now I just use Voice-to-Text. I mean there really isn't any reason not to use it (voice-2-text) unless you need to keep quiet, at which point, swype is 'goodnuff' for such situations.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The Nexus S is a developer phone..it gets the update ahead of everyone else because by the time it actually gets on a real device a lot of bugs are fixed. That's why you will never see 2.3.0 on a phone.... people make a big deal about Nexus devices getting it but have to realize that Nexus devices will ALWAYS get updates 3 month ahead of any other phone...because Nexus is a test platform...

I can understand people's frustration with the late 2.2...but having them update to 2.3 and skipping 2.2 was never going to happen...you can't blame them there...
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Again, I cannot see a single reason why it was not released for the epic as it's nearly the same phone. It was a bad business decision. It's software....that never touches media, distribution is as simple as uploading it to a server.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Your saying its a bad marketing decision to release a beta platform on production devices? O.o...and our phones are not the same..we have a whole Qualcomm motherboard package that the GSM versions do not..and don't forget those TW framework optimizations everyone has been talking about..

You will never find a production phone be on an actual phone until at least 3 month, this was same with the Evo where everyone was asking why it didn't come with 2.2 when the N1 had 2.2 despite it being the same phone..it doesn't work that way! You don't release Beta/RC quality software in none developer products...
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Wasn't speaking about the GSM version, I was talking about the sprint version :confused:
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
Engadget has the review of evo3d up..
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
After seeing that review, I kinda don't think the Evo 3d is special aside from the 3d which I don't really care for

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] LunaticWolf:
Well, that should slam the door for most fencesitters.
[Epic 4G General] ghlu:
If you need some benchmarks, you can take a look at gsmarena. They have sensation (basically same phone as Evo 3D w/o the 3D) vs galaxy s2 vs optimus 2x (same cpu/gpu as motorola photon)

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608.php
[Epic 4G General] Dulanic:
3D is a gimick on everything from TV's to phones to movies. It was attempted in the late 80's and failed. There is actually close to no difference to the old 3D and the new 3D besides that it got better marketing support. Why did it get better marketing support? The electronic companies were out of things to charge extra for.

I personally avoid 3D everything. I find a movie much more enjoyable in 2D than making myself dizzy and uncomfortable wearing glasses in 3D.
[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
Ok so I'm leaning towards the SGS2 BUT... Will this beast of a phone have 4G?? I know I know, "how many times do you turn on 4G?" But still 4G is growing and will slowly be used more and more often. But I wouldn't think that the second Galaxy S phone on Sprint wouldn't be 4G...
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Jeez, I've read multiple evo3d reviews and it seems like they took a potentially awesome phone and then messed it up completely with gimmicks. The cameras are bad because of 3d. The screen is bad because of 3d. The os is a glitchy mess because of 3d. Had they just released it as a dual core evo with a qhd screen, kickstand and a high quality camera, everyone would be buying it.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Of course its gonna have 4g... That's a big part of the name WiThin thin phone with wimax
[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
Haha, well I see what you're getting at but I have heard nothing about it having 4G...
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Well yeah, it's not even announced yet. It's only rumored.
[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
So Overstew, have you decided which phone you're going for?
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Evo 3D until Within comes out. Then I'll be selling the 3d to pay off the within. :p

I probably wont develop for the 3d though unless I fall in love with it.