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[HTC Inspire 4G] jaw2012:
Just myself I have about 10 or so apps that don't multitask, at least not TRUE 100% multitasking.

Pleading to developers, especially big corporate developers isn't the solution! Even if all of my misbehaving apps were changed for the better, there will be another new app that comes along that doesn't truly multitask! Get where I am getting at with this? Come on this is XDA isn't it? What I'm asking for, or proposing is for an app to solve this problem!

I would hope that someone could create an app so that we can make any app behave so that it really does truly multitask.

This happens on a regular basis here at XDA, so I'm not sure why this can't happen for this particular problem.

The kind of app I'm hoping for does'nt have to affect every app, rather I would think it's best if you could "hold" or "lock" a running app into memory so that you could do anything else and yet still return back to the app and return back into it's exact previous state.

I'm not a developer, otherwise I would create something like this. So other developers, I'm calling on you! Please help us out.
[HTC Inspire 4G] diablo009:
Not sure abt the apps u guys are talking about, but when I am in google voice typing something, and a mail comes in, I switch to it, read it and come back to GV, my text is exactly where I left it. Same happens when am typing something in k9-mail too. 90% of the apps I use, I always find them in the state I left them in. Sometimes I leave them on for an hour or more, and still find them in exact state. I presume this called as true multi tasking.

And regarding video not being played when u press home, I agree to posters above saying it releases the locks. Its a minor discomfort, but well, atleast saves on the battery drain.

Also, certain apps could be set to refresh by developers too to become inactive once backgrounded.

And guys, this is just a phone in the end. There is only a certain limit a phone can handle.
[HTC Inspire 4G] mrrick:
Buy a laptop.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Anthonok:
Basically you're looking for the

Old iphone app called backgrounder try contacting the dev

Sent via the power of a unicorn's horn.
[HTC Inspire 4G] jaw2012:
Diablo I guess you didn't read the thread, because it's been already said that MOST Android apps do behave by multitasking like they should.

The problem is that there is a good portion of apps that FAIL to multitask like they should. To make matters worse, most of these misbehaving apps are big-time MULTIMEDIA apps such as NetFlix, TweetCaster, WatchESPN, Twicca, In-browser streaming video/radio (any browser) & the native Android music player......just to name a few.

So we need a resoultion for these apps that fail to multitask! And to you point that the current OS implementation saves battery? If you read my previous posts in this thread, you'll see that I've outlined the rough functionality for such a backgrounding app that I feel would resolve this dilemma. I've stated that we should be able to designate a running app or in other words "lock" a particular app in memory so that it's state is "frozen" in the background. The key is that you'll have the option to background the app or apps that you want backgrounded, instead of ALL running apps being backgrounded, which WOULD be an undue burden on the battery.

Lastly, I'm shocked to hear someone on XDA say "this is just a phone in the end. There is only a certain limit a phone can handle."

HUH??!! If everyone on XDA had that weak, deafeast attitude...well we would'nt have all that we currently have on our Android phones!
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
You're talking about faking out these apps that are (by design) exiting once they've detected they're running in the background, to make them think they're still in the foreground. I'm no Android developer but this sounds rather complicated and overly resource intensive. The magic app you're talking about would have to create some sort of emulation shell to "wrap" around these types of apps to make each one believe it's still the king of the hill and the main foreground process. And since your magic app doesn't know when you're going to choose to background one of these apps, it would always constantly need to be prepared at a moments notice to fire up this emulation fast enough so the said app doesn't exit, or keep these emulation shells running constantly. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a nightmare of instability and a huge waste of very finite resources. Some of these phones barely make it 8 hours with heavy use, so I can't image the demand for something that drains your battery even faster just so your ESPN video keeps playing when you check your email is going to be something desired by very many, or worth a developers time. Plus you'd probably have to deal with EULA/Terms Of Service violations and such; I'm sure Bank Of America doesn't want their app running in the background, because due to security concerns on mobile devices these types of financial apps are specifically designed to shutdown and log you out once their app is shifted to the background because people will forget about it. The Android OS already has a safe and supported mechanism for multitasking, and it's up to the developers to build their apps to take advantage of it, end of story. Just my 2¢.
[HTC Inspire 4G] jaw2012:
OK folks...there you have it....I guess it's time to pack it up....delete the forum databases and shutdown XDA!

Henry thinks we shouldn't be re-engineering apps or the Android OS due to complications he can envision. In that case yes we should just then pack it up and shutdown XDA!!

Henry, you also are against such an app because you think it can be a little difficult to create? If all developers had your mentality, I don't think we would have such an evolved Android OS.

My previous posts have said it's not just the ESPN app that's not multitasking, it's plenty more. SO right there it's more worth it then just one app, as you say.

And just to be thorough, my previous posts also illustrated that the app is completely user-driven, so battery life is a non-issue because this is'nt a system-wide hack.

Please take a look on Youtube for the backgrounding app (on the iPhone) as a previous poster has pointed out this is pretty much what I am envisioning my "magic" app would be.

If the iPhone can do it, well how "magic" can it really be? Actually, I think thats why you are so against this app. I've seen this SO MANY TIMES. People take their phone so seriously that if anyone points out a shortcoming they take it personally and they feel like they must defend Android or whatever OS they are fanboys of.

Well, I love Android and I'm not holding it against it for this shortcoming. Actually I understand Android is giving this multitasking option to apps, and thats fine and all, but I just think there is a market for users that want absolute control over their phone!

I mean, isn't that what's XDA is all about?
[HTC Inspire 4G] henrybravo:
Holy crap you are an ass. I was merely stating my opinion as to why I thought it would be difficult (nowhere did I say impossible) to implement. If you can develop this mechanism or convince a developer to do it, then by all means go for it. I'm sure you've got another smart ass reply in waiting, so let's see it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] diablo009:
Leave it Henry. Looks like a person with little or no patience/experience.
[HTC Inspire 4G] YoungAceAtlanta:
So we are all really debating on "What Is True Multitasking" ?? seriously tho...
[HTC Inspire 4G] Gene Poole:
No we're debating on "What some guy thinks is true multitasking".
[HTC Inspire 4G] mrrick:
The Internets is serious..
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
the apps mentioned like the tweet being erased when you minimize and return to the app is a fault of the developer, not the OS. even notice when you are writing a new gmail message and you press home? your text is still there.

it is the developer's responsibility to take over the onPause and onSavedInstanceState calls in the app and copy any text from the text box when the app loses foreground focus. this is basic stuff and android is specifically designed so your apps CAN multitask and you dont lose info when you return to the app.

ever notice why google voice doesnt delete your text? or gmail? because those apps were properly coded.

its easy for developers to do, and most apps i've used do in fact work properly. those apps that dont, file a bug report so it can get fixed, and switch to a different app.
[HTC Inspire 4G] jaw2012:
Huh? I defended this app request from someone who self-admittedly is not a developer but yet still felt the need to add his opinion on things he obviously has no clue on, and that somehow makes me inpatient or inexperienced?

Anyway, my motive has not been to get into an argument or debate. I hardly ever post, rather I almost always just read threads. But it did rub me wrong that someone who has no experience as a developer was insulting me as he was blowing off my idea, especially when he had the facts and ideas all wrong.

I did get some great responses from some other posters who pointed me in the right direction for the app I feel could help out in many ways. So thanks for those.

So let me try and break it down one last time because I think some of you have my argument wrong. When I say I want true multitasking, that’s not a slight on Android. I know some of you make it your agenda to defend Android whenever you feel it’s being slighted. I guess you can’t be objective? I realize Android is capable and usually does multitask well. But Android is also allowing apps to not multitask, and there is where I have the problem. I feel the power and control of my phone should always be in my hands. SO how some of you are against giving the user that control is beyond me, especially here on XDA.
[HTC Inspire 4G] jaw2012:
But the problem is that many apps are not multitasking ON DESIGN. It's not a bug or a overlooked issue. So thats why I feel an app that gives the control to the user is needed.

So often I'm finding I can't even access the top notification menu while inside apps, only using the hard keys will get you out, but you'll lose focus in whatever app your're currently in, and if you return you have to start all over.

A backgrounding app would resolve this issue, so that we can "minimize" apps and return to the exact state whenever we need to.

But I guess some of you don't mind having your apps dictating functionality. Oh well, maybe whenever an app like this finally comes along (I'm confident an app like this will come at some point) then you'll see the light and admit I was right all along!
[HTC Inspire 4G] robert_shipley:
You're so rude to people that even if your idea was a valid one (I'm not passing judgement either way as I don't see the need for it but if you do I'm sure it must be a valid problem) no develper would want to exhaust effort on your idea just because of your attitude.

The idea of XDA is one of collaboration and joint working. Being rude and obnoxious does not foster this environment. Try some manners in the future and see if that gets you any further. Chances are if you applied some manners a developer may have considered your request.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
i would have to know which app you speak of because taking over full screen which in turn hides the notification bar is a very specific function that must be coded into an app, and i literally do not encounter this in any of the apps i use. every app i come across always shows the notification bar. to do otherwise is a pretty big deal from a developer/usability perspective, so i would say those are very isolated and rare instances.

i dont come across that, so i dont have that issue. what apps do this for you? i bet people in this thread never run into this either so it never appeared as an issue.

the multitasking ON DESIGN is truly truly up to the developer and how they want to code the app. i wrote my first (and only app) a couple months ago. and i experimented with having to do all the pause and running stuff when the home button is pressed. i specifically tried out my app without pausing it and then pausing it when it was backgrounded.

the main function calls are onCreate, onPause, onResume, onStop, and onDestroy. you have to put all the code in the onPause function that you want to happen when the user sends your app to the background (home button). you can do whatever you want here, keep the app performing its function, or having it pause and save info state. its literally up to the dev.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apeadape:
Hello,

I have a question I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere. We are upgrading from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 at my work, while testing Exchange 2010 I found out that activesync (push) email works great on iPhones and iPads, but not on my Droid Incredible :eek:. I can create the account just fine and manually refresh to see my mail, but if I have my exchange activesync email set to "as items arrive" and send myself a test email, I don't get it until I open up the email app and it refreshes.

I'm using the default htc email app, I have tried deleting and recreating my account several times. If I have the setting set to any thing else, like sync every 5 minutes it works just fine, but for some reason if it's set to as items arrive I won't get the email until I manually look at the email app. I can't deploy exchange 2010 with this going on as we have many other android users in the company.

Please help!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
The Android native email application needs improvement no doubt. I use TouchDown as we have Exchange 2007 and are enforcing security policies. Those don't work too well with the native application.

Push works great, but it's a one time fee of $20, but in my opinion worth it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apeadape:
Thanks RMarkwald! I downloaded and tried out TouchDown and it works great for Exchange 2010. At least I have a solution if users start complaining about push no longer working after we upgrade.

Hopefully htc will get an update out for this at some point because a simple thing like activesync should work on the stock email app.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
Hey no problem! I think that the issue is more of an Android issue, not really HTC, cause it happens across the board. I've had nothing but issues before I purchased TD, and that was before we enabled PIN/security features. $20 is a lot, but my company purchased it for me, and I can use it on my Xoom without having to pay another $20, so IMO it's worth it.

Their support is great too, from the times I've contacted them with questions. I really like you can sync Tasks and manage your Out of Office too.
[General Questions and Answers] katndahat:
ok everybody i have some Q's im needing answered. anyway i had to downgrade my phone cuz i couldnt afford my data at this time. (no more unlimited iphone data) ya that sucks so i had got a htc freestyle.

ive seen alot of posts about people wanting to put droid on it and that would be kool. but.... i am just looking to manually put my own games on it and mabe a few apps so my Q is....

how do i look at the guts of my htc? (the O/S)

when i plug it in does it just show? do i have to get a program for that?

what file type are most apps and games? i was told JAR will work but idk...and what about theme-ing it?

so in all i would just like to manually theme it and manually put in the games i want (and i dont know the file types) so if someone can point me in the right direction i would really appriecate it!!

thank you for your time in reading my thread
[Off-topic] badogg:
Lol, this really is how it happens too. Thought I would share so ya'll could get a laugh out of it too.

Happy Friday!

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/05/sneaky-hate-spiral.html
[Off-topic] twitch351:
Absolutely hilarious, thank you haha

My favorite part: "Hey a$$hole! You think you're better than me? Are you better than fire?!"

-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
[Off-topic] jperryks:
Haha i have to say that was pretty funny. So true too.
[Off-topic] badogg:
I thought this was perfect:

That and the cat butt. :D
[Off-topic] husam666:
hahaha lool

nice story xD
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
That was fuc*ing hilarious!!!!! Lmao

ROFLMFAO

A couple of those things happen daily for me:

1. So i goto sleep and open the window cause its so hot at night in my room and dont have a ceiling fan. as soon as i pass out, i cant sleep voluntarily..

2. Like 3-5am in the morning, i hear the inconsiderate a**holes next door slamming there damn mini van door leaving late or early, or there f*cking dog is barking and its a little piece of sh*t, then after at least a half hour of that, then the birds start chirping outrageously loud or if its not that its school season and there are F*cking middle schoolers waiting for there bus right outside bouncing basketballs at 7 am in the morning and yelling and being annoying as sh*t. If its not something outside its my F*ucking cats meowing in my face or showing me there a**hole .

3. after im finally up, i start to chill after i shower

4. Leave for work then i cant find my f*cking sunglasses and every car i have to drive behind is either driving ridiculous slow,swerving or there car has to much F*cking chrome on it and the sun reflects off it and blinds me

5. Then work all day

6. Then on the way home the driving experience is the same except the concept of being blind cause its not as bright out.

7. Finally home relaxing and resting and eat maybe have a beer

8. Bed time comes

9. Repeat

:mad::mad:

Sorry about the rant, after reading that blog, it reminded me of my annoyances.
[Off-topic] husam666:
you forgot the part where:

"erick erick erick" comes :D:D
[Off-topic] badogg:
Lol, why the fsck do cats do that?? One of these days, you should oblige your cat and shove something up it's ass and see if it stops. lol
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
Hes one of the annoying Middle Schoolers :eek:

lol

Erick isnt bad compared to what i posted above.
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
LMAO, they only do it like when they want something badly, they put it directly in your face touching your nose and you wake up and your like F*ucking gross!!1
[Off-topic] husam666:
I meant in 3 word story thread ;)
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
i know but im over it...........
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JavaMac:
Hey folks. I'm having a real hell of a time trying to figure out what going wrong in my attempts to recover my i896.

I can't seem to install the 64 bit drivers on my Win7 machine, nor can I get the computer to register the phone as a drive to which I can move files.

I'm stuck with a blank phone right now, and have been for two weeks, waiting on a jig in the mail. Now I have the jig, allowing me to put the phone in download mode, but I'm still stuck. I'd really like to fix this issue tonight, if anyone can help out. Thanks for any thoughts.

I've tried multiple USB ports, plugging things in different orders, and I've tried a couple different links to what I assume are the same drivers. I'm really hoping I don't have to send this in to get repaired.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhernand1102:
I've seen a few people have the same problem with 64 bit machines, If you can find someone running XP and do on that machine. I still have my old XP box around just for these situations.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JavaMac:
And until last month, I would have too. ~LOL~ I bailed on XP for this new 7 box. What about if I run in XP compat mode?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JavaMac:
No go on the backwards compatibility mode. I tried those alternative drivers from softpedia to no avail also.

I'm starting to panic a little now. Have I boned my phone in it's little earphone hole?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
i have several win7 64 bit machines working just fine. used the drivers from the Odin One Click thread.....

if you cant use those, then use AIO captivate toolbox with heimdall
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JavaMac:
The Toolbox drivers claim to have installed properly. I'm unplugging the phone, rebooting the computer, and trying Odin again. Hopefully this will work. FYI: I'm supposed to be in Download mode for Odin, right? The jig I bought puts the phone into Download mode, with an Android mopping.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JavaMac:
Progress in Driver Installations!

Okay . . . I've finally found a little success here. The drivers have been successfully installed and I'm getting a happy sound when I plug the phone in instead of a confused sound. It says the device is ready to use instead of failed to install.

I got this success using the Toolbox. I installed the 64bit drivers from there. Thanks for the advice!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSippler:
I'm looking for an app of some kind that will automatically arrange apps in the app drawer in alphabetical order.

I KNOW I can do this myself by dragging them around multiple screens, but its difficult and tedious when you have many apps and have to do it when you install something new.

Can it be that complex to write an app that does this?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shrapnel2:
A lot of other launchers have this by default, eg Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, so I recommend you try one of them.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSippler:
Yes, I've been told this too. But I am not really looking to install something that will change the entire appearance of the phone, I just want this one simple feature, and I am happy with the appdrawer otherwise.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMD9:
Try this, it's free...

https://market.android.com/details?id=net.demidoes.twsorter
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSippler:
Perfect, thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMD9:
No problem :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ftj3kf3:
Hello is my Samsung Firmware which i installed trough Kies official or not?

It says: Firmware-Version: 2.3.3

I9000XXJVO

2.6.35.7-i9000XXJVO-CL182937

se.infra@sep-51 #2

Gingerbread.XXJVO

Is that the newest official Version of Gingerbread or just an flashed modded Firmware?? I used spooffw to upgrade the Firmware. What meand XXJVO or 2.6.35-7??

Thank your very much for your answers and sry for my bad german influenced english ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cabessius:
If you installed it through kies, then it is official.

BTW, there is a Q&A section...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mossy1963:
Wooaaa...not necessarily....not if he used spooffw...he is using a later fw based on the settings chosen in spooffw...but not necessarily the latest official fw available for his device, carrier and region....he has fooled kies into downloading JVO remember.

@ftj3kf3

Firstly - JVO IS official - but its a XEU region (UK) variant

It HAS been supplied via Kies (so its "official" Samsung fw)

However as you are in Germany you presumably had to enter XEU as the product code to fool Kies and get the download.

so yes you are running an official Samsung GB release, but not necessarily the current one for your region and supplier...but don't worry everything is cool, 2.6.35.7-i9000XXJVO-CL182937 se.infra@sep-51 # is the kernel version....you are just probably ahead of the game for your region, that's all
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] criticalmass24:
I have installed Firefly 3.0 on my captivate every now and then when the battery gets low to like 30% it turns off and then i gotta pop the battery out and pop it back in because it randomly shuts down. It has happened in games, phone calls from friends that are in iraq, and various other things. I just reloaded fire fly onto my phone but I am not sure whats going on with it. :mad:
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crystalhand:
Probably faulty ram you can exchange it through att. Firefly might be trying to store system apps in faulty ram blocks causing problems. just my thought though