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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
no not always

just because your lowering your frequency doesnt mean you can just go ahead and lower everything else

the phone seems to have to be at a certain voltage the higher it goes up, i didnt even touch my other levels of cpu just level 0

also im not getting 1400 either on my quad scores lol which is fine, and it could be because of many reasons, maybe he has an I/O tweak or mod or even maybe he doesnt have many apps on there to take his ram, OR he is doing everything we are and his phone just executes better ?? lol either way 1300 is definitely an upgrade from the stock 990 or 1020 hahaha and once we get EXT4 the quad score will shoot up dramatically as well as with other mods and tweaks

so just be a little more patient, AMAZINGNESS will be here soon :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
I have done so many tweaks I have lost track. I have all bloat removed. I also have minimum startup apps. Also I'm using sd booster.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
whats your cache size in sd booster??

im thinking it had to be an I/O mod you did

because quadrant scores pretty heavy on the i/o section of the test, all our phones have some of the best graphics yet we still score low, so it has to be a cpu mod or I/O mod
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
2048
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
i know you said you lost count, but is there any mod or tweak that stands out to you on your phone since you have used it, like fugu tweaks?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] cint_chris:
Can this harm the device? I mean you are setting the processor to work harder. so does it get hot faster and may it shut down?

I only ask because mines did. I had it on 76% batter and i put it down go play ball and come back like an hour or two later and it was off and hot... :( and i dont have my charger here witth me but i mean it was at 76%...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
If you would read a little more then you would find your answer, my method is safe and I never past 44C, when I wasn't Overclocking I would get to 50C explain that to me..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
I am not OC and I've seen 50c• but I also live in Texas and its hot here anyway

sent from MT. OLYMPUS using my kickass sgs4g.

THE GODS ENVY US!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] adas1223:
how do i adjust the frequency of cpu level 4? its stuck at 100
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
All other levels besides level 0 can not change frequencies they are standard for the phone
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] makavelicruz:
Oh I wasn't talking about the other levels, just level 0, like let's say I lower the frequency from 1500 to 1300, does that mean I have to lower core and internal voltages as well. Is there a type a math that you do lol. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Lol ooh, yea change the core and internal, for 1.4 core can be at 1325 internal 1150 and 1.2 core can be 1225 maybe 1200 and internal doesn't have to be touched 1.3 I'm not sure, there is no method just trial and error lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] cint_chris:
ok dude im sorry if it offended you. it was a question because it jus turned off and it was really hot and i followed the instructions so i wanted to make sure if anyone was having some issues. But it might be he calibration of my battery is off set . but i will figure it out, thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
Sorry for sounding rude my doooode had a bad day and I already answered that question before you asked :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
Even faster

Thanks for the mention in the OP dsexton702! Just wanted to throw a little something extra out there. I am using Spare Parts in conjunction with all the same OC to 1.5 settings that dsexton702 had posted.(thanks again!saved us all a little trial and error and by the way i have NO TEMP. issues!) Download Spare Parts and go into the settings and set the animations and transitions to fast. This gives u a very fast ui and makes the phone seem even more snappier. Its almost funny when i show people who have android phones just how fast this baby can move!!!!!!!!!!They just can't believe it!!!!!!! Just another pointer on how to make that device really seem like its cranking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SORRY GUYS WAS UP LATE AND TIRED AND HAD A BRAIN FART!!!!!!!!!! THE APP IS CALLED SPARE PARTS+.SRRY!!!!!!!!!!! ONE
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ddang25377:
It's not because of overclocking.

My phone got hot and turned off itself once even though I didn't OC it. My wife's phone did that 2 months ago as well and hers is 100% stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] cint_chris:
Yea. I read but i mean i didnt quite see the answer but still men u ok. I do think its the uncalibrated battery thought but thatnks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] shotchacokov:
works great! No heat issues what so ever. Thanks for this.

not that quadrant means jack for this phone, but considering the baseline of high 800's and now i'm at 1339 all of these mods have really made this phone insanely fast and snappy.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] makavelicruz:
Dude where are the settings for this app to make the animations faster Like you said? Just double checking I downloaded the one that said sgs tools captivate? Thats the one right? I didn't see another one in market :-)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
I think he means spareparts not sgs tools.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
just so you guys know, if the phone is heating up that is normal.

When i first was messing with my phone it would be heating up ALL the time, and to be honest it would bother me even though it was only going to 50C

im not sure if it was just my OC method that cooled my phone down or what??

I constantly am reflashing my phone or restoring it from CWM because of the things i am trying right now, here is EVERYTHING i am running, and i have not passed 44C no matter how much i use the phone when its OC

using whitehawkx kd1

bali 1.4 uv kernel

sd booster(thanks Somairotevoli)

fugu tweaks

3d chainfire(again thanks Somairotevoli) but i dont think this does anything for temperature lol

instead of using sgs tools im using spare parts to speed my animations up(fatherof4 is right speeding up the animations and what not makes the phone even smoother)

and thats it, since then my phone always keeps cool

i hope this helps guys :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
Srry for the F-UP guys. The app is called Spare Parts
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
Check out anim mod if you haven't already, works great for flashy animations.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Juls317:
How? I'm scoring in the 900s
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
the question is, how are you scoring only a 900?

stock should only run 900 lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] invario:
As awesome as it is that the OP got such a huge OC, I feel I should warn people about the inherent dangers of OCing. I don't think the OP emphasized that enough, if at all....

OCing can be safe, if done properly. OCing anything safely and properly requires time and patience and a lot of testing. Doing it the OP's method and just trying to push it up to the limit immediately is really not the safe way to do things.

You're supposed to up things gradually by increasing the clock speed and checking for stability. If stability is impacted, then you increase voltage. You never push both up immediately.

You do all of this while monitoring temperatures and performing stress testing. Stress testing means you REALLY push the hardware to the limit to see what temperatures you reach in the worst possible case. This means putting on wifi, GPS, bluetooth, navigation, running a million updates, and CHARGING (yes, plugged in!) etc. to see what temperatures you'll hit.

IF things are okay at the settings THEN you proceed to attempt to increase your OC. Rinse and repeat until you find the limit of stability, or temperatures, or you're just happy with what you have.

In fact, I would suggest looking for apps that specifically test OCs for stability, and run those. Why those apps, and not just running games? Because just because you're not getting FC or artifacts or freezes or anything else does NOT mean that you are running a safe and stable overclock.

Back when I use to OC my PC, we used to run several instances of an app called Prime95 to really stress the CPU. Without really getting into it, the reason you ran dedicated apps like that was to LOOK for problems. You could get flipped bits resulting from your OC and you wouldn't even know it from running a regular app because the app wasn't looking for the error. Prime95 DOES. And each time I ran Prime95, I let it run for an entire day before I declare my OC stable/safe.

Remember, just because your stuff isn't crashing, doesn't mean you are good to go...

Lastly, what are the consequences of running an unsafe OC? Well, it depends.

You might start experiencing instability during everyday use. If you're lucky, you just have to stop OCing and the instability will go away. If you're unlucky, you might have permanent damage from electromigration. (Look it up.) This means that even if you restore your phone to completely stock, it'll still have problems because you've actually caused hardware damage. And in the case of a phone, it's not easy to repair. On a PC, you could just yank out the CPU and replace it with a new one and keep everything else.

So... before you embark on your OCing endeavors, you should know what you're getting into. Is it really worth it to you? Do you really NEED your phone to be faster? Or maybe you're one of those people that just like living on the edge.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
i have done tremendous experimenting with the voltages and frequencies and i wouldnt post this if it wasnt stable for the sgs4g

ONLY MY FREQUENCIES WORK, how do i know because i have done trial and error

not only did my method make my phone able to OC safely to 1.5 but also my phone doesnt even get as hot as it did when i wasnt even OC

i have been running these frequencies for about a week now with no FC's random reboots or any other problems like that, also my battery life on average with the OC is 24 hours

also my method doesnt make the phone at a constant 1.5 or 1.4 which is what the conservative scaling is for, infact my phone uses 800 most of the time and only jumps to 1.5 or 1.4 when im playing games or doing quadrant

but thanks for your warning :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] invario:
And this is what you're not understanding. Every piece of hardware is unique and has different capabilities. Just because it works on YOUR phone doesn't mean it will work on someone elses, even if it's exactly the same.

Did you know that a common practice for CPU manufacturers like Intel and AMD was to manufacture a processor, test it at a certain voltage and frequency, and if it was unstable, they would lower the frequency until it became stable and then brand that processor at the lower frequency? They did this as a way of cutting costs. Rather than throw away those processors that failed at higher frequencies, they could sell it for money at the lower frequency!

In fact, even Intel and AMD used to have different steppings (batches) of processors that ran at the same frequency, same voltage, same die size, but for one reason or another, one batch would be significantly more overclockable than the other, or not overclockable at all.

A lot more's involved than "it worked on my SGS4G so it should work on yours."

Another reason why you it's not really tried and tested. If your phone is mostly running at 800 and you haven't had problems, the only thing you can really conclude is that your phone runs okay at 800 most of the time and occasionally 1.5. If you can't run at a steady 1.5 fully stressed, your OC is not safe.

The warning wasn't necessarily directed at you. It was for everyone else who doesn't know what they're getting into. If you're happy with what you're doing, so be it. But if something blows up on you, don't say I didn't told you so. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] invario:
Also, where are you getting the temperatures from? Is that your battery temperature? If so, that's another thing you simply can't rely on to assess temperature of your processor.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] 404glitch:
I'm running a modest OC of 1.2.GHz now to see how that hits my battery and phone functions, with an eye on bumping it up if it all goes well.

Thanks man!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
ok, well no damage has been done to my phone and i have other who mention the same results, NOT SAYING IT CANT HURT ANYONES PHONE just saying havent heard anything yet

and i have bumped up my cpu frequency scale to performance to see if it would be stable at only 1.5

and it was

but i would rather save battery and keep at conservative...

OC'ing is not uncommon for android phones

so once again, thanks for the warning :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
im getting low on both cpu temps and battery temps

i know to check both
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
i was being serious on the thanks for the warning invario

not being rude :D

i will edit my post today
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] invario:
Didn't say not to OC. Just that you (the general you, not YOU specifically) should know what you're getting into before hand.

About 15 years ago when PCs were becoming more and more common place, people started learning about OCing. At first, it was limited to the select few that had the know-how to do things properly and painstakingly.

Soon, these easy overclock apps and guides started popping up all over.

Not so coincidentally, more and more PC began having strange and seemingly inexplicable problems...blue screens, strange exception errors, etc. ;) I used to love overclocking EVERYTHING. Hell, I only got rid of my PC last year in favor of my laptop. Gave it to my mom, and that's still running a stable OC. Core 2 Duo E6600 processor, stock speed of 2.4 still OCed stably to 3.0GHz although I did have to bump up the voltage a tiny bit to keep it stable. That was never an issue when I first got that CPU but it was a problem that developed later on.

See what I mean? :)

And no offense taken at all. We're all just here to learn/share.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
:D

:P

:)

;) lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
How does one go about checking cpu temps?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] adobrakic:
Do we use version 0.1 or 0.2 of the fugu tweak? and if v. 0.2, how do you install that one?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Juls317:
You use v0.2 and you have to push it using adb or root explorer (or any other root file manager)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] makavelicruz:
no worries man, this apps is awesome, thanks for the tip. what else you use this app for?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
there are apps on the market that can tell you the cpu temp

and as for spare parts, there is another app that works with spare parts called blade buddy that one allows you do stuff like

hardware tweak

heap values

turn off bootanimation

etc

but be careful some settings can make you have to do a restore!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
Any cputemp apps that work with bali? I can't seem to find any for my device.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
i use tempmonitor
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
Saying cpu temps only available with moto driod kernel
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] recepo1:
Thanks dsexton for posting this i was never interested in overclocking but this shed some more light on it for me , have mine OC'd at a modest 1.2 and it seems like my phone temp wise is better as well never gets hot when it wasnt OC'd it would get hot at times
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] wizardslovak:
As for cpu monitor .... its useless as sgs4g doesnt have cpu temp sensor ;-)

I have been oc-ed to 1.5 for 4 days with no problems .... just joy of speed ;-)

Thx people
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] recepo1:
With tegrak overclock ultimate is anybody else experiencing when saving the settings to boot it doesnt save? i have to change everytime i reboot my phone
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Juls317:
I didn't have any problems. Do you get the prompt when you boot up?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] recepo1:
No juls317 i read people get the pop up when they boot up but i never got it once i click set to boot everytime i overclock it
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] farwek:
I set my oc at 1.252 and it was working fine for the last 2 days and then all of the sudden it start randomly glitching and restarting. The phone was not even hot. 34C Im kinda confused. Im running bali uv kernel, fugu tweak, darkyy's ram booster, whitehawxx kd1, and aerodkng's gb theme v7.2.

I even tried lowering the clock to 1.152.

Any ideas on whats going on?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] sgyee:
This is one of those things that can plague overclockers. Some chipsets can handle faster, some can't.

I know that the chipset on my own SGS4G cannot handle anything beyond 1.2g. I've tried OC'ing even to 1.252, and I get random reboots and other assorted glitches. Going to 1.3 and 1.5g results in not only the random reboots, but also issues like not being able to install programs from the standard market, the Amazon Market, or even sideloading them off of the SD card.

-Steve
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
That sucks my OC is stable at 1.5GHz too. I wanna try 1.8GHz like the thunderbolt.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] farwek:
I figured it out. All i had to do was turn off the oc and restart into cwm recovery then clear the cache. Now its running beautifully all the way up yo 1.5. I think I will stick to 1.2 until I am more trusting of the heat. Especially down here in Houston on the 100 degree days.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] farwek:
Sounds a little sketchy to me. I'd becareful

Sent from my legit SGS4G.

Rom: whitehawxx's deodexed KD1

Kernel: drhonk's bali v1.4uv

Tweaks: fugu tweak, darkyy's ram booster

Theme: aerodkng's gbtheme v7.2

OC: 1.2Ghz (stable)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
Sketchy? How so? I'm not sayin our hummingbird can do it I just said thats what I wanted. And is the ram booster working? I want to try it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
What are you voltage values did you touch the other levels? And that makes sense on the sensors because it was giving me pretty rediculous values for cputemp lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
I couldn't go past 1.2 until I created this method, pretty sure its the figure tweaks

Anyways you should give it a try with fugu tweaks you'll be surprised ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] GDofWR420:
I'm in montgomery tx and I can verify its hot as hell. also having this phone outside to long makes me uneasy because of the heat

sent from MT. OLYMPUS using my kickass sgs4g.

THE GODS ENVY US!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
going anything past 1504 is dangerous and unstabl unfortunately :/ maybe when ext4 comes out :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
Will ext4 even come out? I dont know of anyone working on it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
drhonk and krylon worked on it for our phones a long time ago before they knew our development was going to be such a hassle

so now that drhonk has the phone starting today i believe he will adding that in there and then his kernel can be ext 4 as well :D

and with ext4 comes ext4 mods ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] fatherof4:
Just wanted to remind u that drhonk said darkys ram booster is no good with bali because he already implemented ram tweaks in the kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
Is that what he is going to do? Then that means gingerbread ports like CM7 right? And why is RFS so bad?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Juls317:
Uninstall and reinstall?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
it doesnt exactly mean gingerbread we still need to wait on samsung for that one i believe

im not sure on the exact differences between file systems all i know is ext4 is what we need for smoother effects
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] sgyee:
I have. I have instability still at 1.25 to 1.5, even with the voltage boosted to your recommendations.

I have some suspicions. One of which is the dropping of the lowest speed to 100mhz. That, frankly, hurt the SGS4G even before the tweaks. The large swings from 100 to 1.5g hurts it even more.

The second suspicion is the issue with running 1.5g period - Fugu or no Fugu. Smoothing out the operating system itself helps, but ultimately, the chipset will or will not accept speeds to that level.

-Steve
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] farwek:
I must have missed that part of it. Thanks for the heads up.

Sent from my legit SGS4G.

Rom: whitehawxx's deodexed KD1

Kernel: drhonk's bali v1.4uv

Tweaks: fugu tweak, darkyy's ram booster

Theme: aerodkng's gbtheme v7.2

OC: 1.2Ghz (stable)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
1.5GHz is perfectly fine on my phone. Never went to 100.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
if anything set your lowest value to 200,

ive ran my phone for 1.5 for a week straight on performance and on conservative and have not encountered even the slightest bit of problems, the only thing my methods have done to my phone is improve performance and temperature

if you have problems with my methods i recommend that you start from scratch with everything including reflashing with odin and build back up, can be annoying but it ensures that the methods will work
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
Can you set me up with buying tegrak? I cant from my market or from my pc market.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyc19:
Same thing happens to me whenever I go over 1.3ghz im running bali 1.4UV, fugu, sd-booster(2048) and chainfire3D with nvidia plugin...i was also wondering where you got the darkyy's ram booster from?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
do you guys have the paid version of tegrak, also are you going into optimization menu not CPU max frequency???

AND

dont use darkys rambooster, drhonk put his own in,

darkys will actually lower your performance
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyc19:
Thanks for the reply I got it to work but at 1.5 it still force rebooted once already so.im.just going to leave it at 1.4
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Juls317:
1.5 works fine for me for a while, then all of the sudden my 4G gets laggy and the phone starts to slow down
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
try leaving it at 1404 with core set at 1325 and internal at 1150

that should be just as smooth as 1.5 wont lag after awhile
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] makavelicruz:
hey dsexton702, does the scaling need to go back to 100 once you bring down the frequency from 1.5??? I remembered reading your instructions on how to go about OC our phones to 1.5 but also making sure we raise from 100 to 200 scaling so our phones would not crash. You happen to know its function??? Thanks for your help
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
At 1.4 you still need 200 I'm not positive about 1.3 but at 1.2 you can go back to 100 :) 1.2 is probably thee best with performance and even better battery life, I'm currently testing 1.4 out and loving it but tegraks new updates are messing with the OC right now hmmm
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Juls317:
Same scaling?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] 404glitch:
Dude, could you post the settings that worked for 1.3 and 1.4 overclocks?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
1.4 is core 1325 and internal 1150

And I'm trying to find thee best lowest voltage for 1.3 right now
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] dsexton702:
i think the OC might be stable at higher levels pretty soon here :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] 404glitch:
Decided to bump up from 1.2 to 1.3 today. Seems stable, but the back of the phone was a bit warmer; I'll continue "testing" for the next few days to see how it goes.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Eric-1987:
This phone can do 1.5GHz easily why you worried about 1.3GHz?

EDIT: Hell for my daily usage I just thrown on 1.3GHz.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] 404glitch:
This is my only phone, so I'm taking it nice and slow.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] invario:
Smart man. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] adobrakic:
giggity giggity