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[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
O I see thanks!! I have yet to hear of a 4g phone working on tzones so this would be awesome. Although with the high price of phones without contract including this one wouldn't it make sense to just upgrade? Usually you could find a store and get sensation for around 150 and then get preferred android data plan for 20 a month. Then your paying more for data yes(14 or 17 more depending on Tzones or 10 more of web2go plan) a month but you get phone for 150 compared to probably like 550 for a unbranded one to the states. That's 400 dollars extra which over two years would be 400/24 which is 16.666 a month you could say anyways making this almost pointless unless you have 2.99 a month Tzones.

Then you could just redo contract again and same thing. I'm a tzones user and thought about this a few times but people never really mention it. Plus here everything is legit so no worries or headaches or trying to get phone in from different country.

I feel the only worthy case is if you get the phone for real cheap. Then obviously keep the tzones.

I'm saying this now obviously because I personally want the newest phones right away and tzones haults this a bit. Also almost all new good phones are android and require data plans and without them tzones gets blocked
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
To me, having unlimited, non throttled 4G HSPA+ access for $5.99 is worth buying unbranded....

The $20 preferred data plan is throttled after 5GB, unlike T-Zones.
[HTC Sensation] zahashingo123:
So I have the unbranded sensation with $9.99 unlimited web2go and internet is working perfectly.

I'm using internet2.voicestream.com and have the H icon for mobile network.

I'm from hawaii and I'm not sure if there is 4g here
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
Ok did not know that 20 dollar a month plan got throttled after 5gb. I was told it did not but in that case yes I agree. Although I don't usually get close to 5gb but for those who tether thus would be huge.

I'm guessing 4g would work? Cause I have yet to hear of tzones and a 4g android phone.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Another reason for me to keep the Web2go is when I renew my family plan contract with 4 lines, i can get at least $500 cash rebate from the agent, which means free phone for me plus cheap data plan. Is the Web2go un-capped like the t-zone?
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
Web2Go is capped, it came after T-Zones
[HTC Sensation] nexus14:
by agent, do you mean authorized reseller? i know where i am from, one authorized reseller was willing to offer $500 credit to renew contract on all 4 lines of my family plan to get one nice phone without a data plan. i declined. seemed shady.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Yeah, authorized reseller. I've been doing that for years... Mostly from legit resellers with multiple stores in the area. I've gotten almost $1000 during the peak time.
[HTC Sensation] bpm2000:
Now that the tmobile version is officially out - can someone confirm that web2go/tzones works for the unbranded version AND that it gets "4G" speeds if you're in an area this serves??

I'm thinking of getting the international version soon if this is confirmed.
[HTC Sensation] AcuraKidd:
I'm also very interested in knowing if the Sensation 4G fully works with the Tzones 5.99 package, if not then can anybody comment on the Galaxy S II?
[HTC Sensation] zahashingo123:
Web2go is still working on my unbranded sensation.

Not sure if 4g is supposed to work here in Hawaii

I'm not getting and 4g just H
[HTC Sensation] graffixnyc:
The unbranded one shows H and the Tmo one shows 4g but they are both the same thing hspa+
[HTC Sensation] raysacr:
Can you run a speedtest? I'm curious if you're getting 3.5G or actual 4G. Because on my HD2, the H symbol stands for 3.5G.
[HTC Sensation] graffixnyc:
T-Mobile doesn't have a TRUE 4G network they only have HSPA+

from unbranded specs:

HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz

Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:

850/900/1800/1900 MHz

from T-Mobile Specs:

Band (frequency):

850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)

from HTC USA Tech Specs:

HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz

Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:

850/900/1800/1900 MHz

the 1700 band is the aws band.
[HTC Sensation] JohnnyFeet:
For those with the Unlocked (International) Sensation, are you experiencing data lag (latency) issues with your phones?
[HTC Sensation] zahashingo123:
so i went to the tmobile store to compare speeds on the browser loading big sites like engadget and gsm arena and both ended loading at the exact same time.

speedtest results from speediest.net app out of 4 tests, the highest download was 7.08 Mbps, highest upload was 1.66 Mbps, and fastest ping was 126 ms

is this 4G?
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
Is the unbranded/international Sensation still working with cheap data plans?
[HTC Sensation] suhsintsun:
Is that the speed you get from T-Mobile's Sensation? How about the international version Sensation using internet2.voicestream.com. Can anyone confirm the speed they are getting? I can only get 2Mbps the most in Los Angeles downtown on my HD2.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
I believe that's because your HD2 doesn't support TMo's "4G" Network, so it only has 3G speed
[HTC Sensation] zahashingo123:
No that was the speed test from the unbranded sensation I have.

And that is with THAT apn.

Is these speeds I got 4G?
[HTC Sensation] bpm2000:
thats way faster than I ever got with 3G in seattle... (at least for the downrate)
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
This speed should be T-mo's HSPA+/3.5G (so called 4G), which is what the Incredible S is getting as well.
[HTC Sensation] zahashingo123:
Ok thanks

Incredible S has tmobile 3G bands? I thought it only had 1900/2100
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
The international edition, not from Canada, works with T-Mobile HSPA+
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
A little off topic but is howardforums down?
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
I think so, it was earlier at least. The mobile app works though
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
Is the international brand Sensation still working with web2go?
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Got my HK version last night. Web2go is working fine as of now. Huge step up from my old SE X10i, cheers!:D
[HTC Sensation] zahashingo123:
Oh wow so I could have got the international edition htc desire s and have tmobile 3G work on it?

I can't find any of these anywhere
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
Only the HTC Sensation and intentional HTC Incredible S have the AWS band for T-Mobile HSPA+ network ... No go for Desire S
[HTC Sensation] Lynb:
There seems to be many resellers and ebayers who do not have the correct bands listed for the Sensations they are selling. Can you tell me exactly what I need to look for or ask when I go to purchase a Sensation for TZONES here in the US?
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Most of the sellers won't know the bands, but as far as I know, all the version so far have the same band. I emailed HTC and they sort of confirmed.
[HTC Sensation] Lynb:
Thanks for the reply. So is it correct to say that currently, T-Mobile is not blocking TZONES access (message requiring data plan upgrade) for a Sensation that does not have the TMobile logo on it? Does it need to also be an UNLOCKED phone?

Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help!
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Yes to all the above.
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
Is the unbranded Sensation still working with Tzones/Web2Go?
[HTC Sensation] goldenma:
I've been using T-zone service on HTC desire for a while. now i just got a tmobile branded htc sensation, and my data isn't working anymore. is there anyway to make t-zone work on tmobile sensation?
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
You need the international version of the Sensation. Tzones was confirmed working a few weeks back on the international version.
[HTC Sensation] william31518:
i got mine from Taiwan and it's Taiwanese version, everything works here in US, 3G... pretty much everything is the same, and i still get to keep my old 10 dollars unlimited data plan. just simply change my APN to internet2(dot)voicestream.com ... everything works fine.
[HTC Sensation] goldenma:
You need the international version of the Sensation. Tzones was confirmed working a few weeks back on the international version

Right, I understand that if I spend another 500 bucks I can possibly get the tzone to work on a new phone. My question for the experts here was is there a solution for the dilema I am in right now. With this new tmobile sensation, I can't even access the edge /2G data network. They block my data access completely :(
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
Didn't feel like getting international so finally gave up tzones for the 20 a month unlimited plan. It's for loyalty customers. I figure if I ever wanna switch like for example to a hercules I could now instead of being stuck to a 500+ dollar phone.

I plan on keeping the sensation of.coarse but seeing as unless you get an incredible price on the international version its not really worth it.

After two years comes out to about the same when u pay 200 for one with a two year upgrade.
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
Tzones data plan will not work with the Tmobile Sensation. You have to switch to a regular Tmobile data plan. Best option at this point is to speak with retention/loyalty and get the discounted android data plan at 20.00 a month. Normal price would be 30.00 a month.
[HTC Sensation] NardVa:
You right. As long as you can get a new phone for 200.00 or less, paying 20.00 a month for internet isn't that bad.
[HTC Sensation] AcuraKidd:
Dont forget the major disadvantage of the $20 plan is that speed is throttled down after 2GB of monthly usage
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
Not true. That's the regular 20 a month plan. The one I'm talking about is just like tzones which is unlimited. A.k.a 5gb. It was the android preferred plan now its called I think android preferred 4g or something like that. I recommend people start going this route.
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
At the speed phones are improving at I rather upgrade phone at least once a year and this way I can.

I'll just sell sensation and put money towards the next big device. Having tzones pays off after like two years which many of us at this point prefer to upgrade more often.

I loved tzones , but at this point in time its easier to not even get internationally and worry about warranty issues and just feel at peace with tmobiles phone.

To each his own though .
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
T-mobile keeps the IMEI of its phones on file, so they block all data unless you get and Android plan. No fix, can't change IMEI, sorry
[HTC Sensation] AcuraKidd:
Can anybody recommend a place to purchase the international Sensation 4G that WILL work with TZones.

Also, if I'm looking on eBay, whats the best way to differenciate between the international version and the Tmobile branded one?

final question, whats a fair price for the international version if its still new?
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
Internationally, the phone is called the HTC Sensation, no 4G. Do a Google shopping search on Z710E to find places that sell the international version. Be aware that you may get an asian phone that does not support HSPA+ if you go this route. There is no way to know until you get the phone. This may or may not be remedied at a later date when the boot loader has been cracked and different radios can be flashed.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
All the versions are the same so far, so they SHOULD support HSPA+. I've never heard of one case that it doesn't.
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
Supposedly radios with a U suffix have HSPA+ turned off and the P suffix has it turned on.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
I see, but where do you find that info?
[HTC Sensation] Paten:
I only have threads that I've read in this forum as sources for this. They may or may not be correct as I haven't experienced them personally.

I believe I saw this information in the following thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1171201
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Thanks for the thread, but looks like it won't make much pratical difference.
[HTC Sensation] vincentli119:
i got throttle with 9.99 web2go... anyone????? i s-off and root and flashed rom
[HTC Sensation] vincentli119:
anyone? i need help ~~~
[HTC Sensation] srizvi1:
I'm about to go this route. Seems too difficult to figure out another phone to get to use with the $5.99 t-zones plan. This is what my wife currently has on her iPhone 3gs. She wants a better phone w/ physical keyboard and that pretty much seems to mean I'll need a more expensive data plan.

How easy was it to get the $20 unlimted loyalty plan?

I still want to keep the t-zones $5.99 plan alive by switching the features of this line to one of our plain no-internet lines in our family plan. Then I'll just hand the iPhone 3gs to my mom to use w/ the $5.99 t-zones plan so she can use internet everywhere. It should be good for her needs.

Update: I tried to get the $20 unlimited loyalty plan put on but it's incompatible with my 2000 minute family plan because it's so old. I would have to get a new plan and sign a new contract which I don't want to do. This means I can only get a $30 data plan for my wife. I tried with two reps.

However, the 2nd rep did let me salvage the $5.99 t-zones to my mom's line like I wanted. The first one wouldn't do it saying she couldn't put it back on. But the second rep did it by switching the numbers on the lines. It was a lot of runaround but he was cool. He's even called me to follow up along the steps (moving first to temp numbers, etc)
[HTC Sensation] KROMO50:
just bought one from popular electronics for $550 free shipping and no tax
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
I couldn't switch it to another members line. They didn't let me but gettin the 20 dollar one is easy. There's a thread on it now in the get.real section.

I technically got the tzones 5.99 like year in half ago and its been grandfathered long before that by calling and speaking to the cancellation department so if transferring fails for you you could always go that route.

Wasn't easy though lol took me five tries....!!
[HTC Sensation] srizvi1:
^ I just updated my original post. I wasn't able to get the $20 line put on but I Was able to move the $5.99 to another line.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
i noticed a little icon when i login to my account as well, after s-off and flashing, but i didn't notice any speed difference
[HTC Sensation] cyberandroid:
For those using the International HTC Sensation Z710e, is you internet still working w/ tzones??? Thanks.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
Still works for me.
[HTC Sensation] cyberandroid:
Thanks...

I'm using one now. My battery runs out very quickly... anyone else??? I can't get a complete day w/o running out of charge... big contrast to my Blackberry 9700.
[HTC Sensation] arjuna_:
I'm thinking about getting an unbranded sensation z710e from amazon. Is tzones still confirmed working with this version of the sensation?
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
Yes, T-Zones is still working for the international version.
[HTC Sensation] imgolo:
So only the 3G with T-Zone for the unbranded Sensation? No 4G?
[HTC Sensation] cyberandroid:
Yes 4G is still working as well.
[HTC Sensation] imgolo:
Just got the unbranded version, there is no 4G logo shown on the signal bar, I believe that was on the branded version that I saw from the guy at the cell phone store. Do I need to contact TMobile and tell them my IMEI so they can allow access? I just switched to the 4G plan, the $30 per month 5GB..
[HTC Sensation] RZALECTA:
What!!

OMG no!! That's the whole reason you paid so much for the unbranded version to begin with. Letting T-mobile know negates everything you've done.

Check your speeds with a speed test app. Remeber most areas don't have 4g anyway and even if they do speeds are rarely what is advertised. You might be getting it already.
[HTC Sensation] Das_mobile:
The unbranded models show "H" for 4G, for HSPA+

Don't tell T-mobile you are using a smartphone otherwise they will remove your legacy data plan!
[HTC Sensation] :
I'm moving to Japan in January. Will my phone work over there?

I heard about unlocking
[HTC Sensation] FastMhz:
Custom Roms?

Has anyone put any custom ROMs on their international Sensation?
[HTC Sensation] AcuraKidd:
With the release of the Sensation XE coming soon, and it being an international only release, anybody think it will work with tzones? Also 4G, it seems to have the 2100 MHz band.
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
i'm using ARHD 3.6.0 XE, working perfectly so far.
[HTC Sensation] AcuraKidd:
So the HTC Sensation XE from overseas works with TZones? You get 4G speeds? Does the XE have an NFC support?
[HTC Sensation] xujianningkp:
That is not ture! I have my Tmobile samsung vibrant, and i changed the efs files, so the tmobile cant detect my phone any more. Im still using tzone $5.99 on vibrant.

---------- Post added at 08:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

http://welectronics.com/gsm/HTC/HTC-Sensation.HTML
[HTC Sensation] m0n0t0ne:
Thanks for the link xujianningkp. However, I do want to tell people if you order from welectronics, email the merchant and be sure that you are sent the unbranded sensation. I ordered from wele and made sure I choose the 3g unbranded version, instead I got the 4g tmobile version. I emailed welectronics for an exchange, we'll see how it goes. Will keep you all updated, worse case scenario i'll have to update my plan and get on a dreaded two year agreement and pay some extra cash, not something I want to do.
[HTC Sensation] rich2x:
Hi all I purchased a z710e with no T-Mobile logo on the physical phone. The phone is currently working on 4g with T-Zones with no issues, however when I boot the phone it displays the T-Mobile boot and there are also T-Mobile apps installed. The back of the phone also says z710e behind the back of the battery.

I'm confused on whether this is a legit z710e international version or not.

Will I have an issue with this phone in a few days?

Has anyone experienced a working sensation but have issues later?

Thanks for the help.
[HTC Sensation] cyberandroid:
Mine says HTC Sensation Z710e.
[HTC Sensation] m0n0t0ne:
Welectronics sent me the correct phone and I shipped back the tmobile version. They credited my account and everything is all good. They were fast and responsive, now I get to keep my web2go :)
[HTC Sensation] tpaxadpom:
I got my wife European version of HTC Sensation for her $2.99 T-Zones plan. This happened the next day I bought one for myself since she liked mine so much. My T-mobile Sensation was working ok the first day I got it with T-zones (used my wife's SIM). I tested it for less than five minutes. Then I tried it again a week later and it was blocked (takes you to web2go or something like that and internet no longer works).

BTW I run custom rome on both phones.
[HTC Sensation] AcuraKidd:
You kinda confused me there....

Your European sensation still works with tzones?

Your T-Mobile sensation does NOT work with tzones.

Am I correct?
[HTC Sensation] parmar.saab:
I'm currently using an HD2 with my grandfathered t-zones plan. I'm looking to upgrade to a Sensation. I saw a listing on ebay for an unlocked Cincinnati Bell Sensation. I'm wondering if I can use it with my t-zones plan, or would T-Mobile have the IMEI in their databse, and block my data usage and force me to upgrade to a much more expensive plan?
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
it should work as long as it's non-tmobile branded.
[HTC Sensation] Adibee:
So Tmobile, kind of tracked down nexus one and started blocking them from the web2go plan. I was running that for a year now. Did the same happen to the sensation yet? My nexus one got blocked yesterday. So now i am planning to switch to another phone that may still work with the web2go plans.
[HTC Sensation] FastMhz:
What APN are you on?

I'm currently using the Samsung Galaxy Nexus with 4G speeds with web2go! BOOm!
[HTC Sensation] Adibee:
I am using the wap.voicestream.com where i can browse some websites. The google server doesnt work thoguh/ Good to know that you can still use the galaxy nexus hopefullly they wont crack down on that too
[HTC Sensation] FastMhz:
Try epc.Tmobile.com or

internet2.voicestream.com
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
List of phones that currently works with T-zone/ Web2go:

http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile#T-Zones
[HTC Sensation] jsomaniax:
Is it possible for a sensation to have the HTC logo in the middle of the phone without tmobile branding but still have tmobile internals?
[HTC Sensation] shitting:
I would say no... but no guarantees
[HTC Sensation] jgve:
HTC Sensation XE z715e

I've wanted this phone for a long time now. Does anyone know if this will work on my $2.99 t-zones? I found it on welectronics for under $400. I emailed the website for details and the response I got was "I have no detail about this phone". It listed 3g Network hsdpa 900/2100 and on the next line hsdpa 900/1700/2100. I am not sure what this means. Can anyone help me figure out what to look for in a phone so I can keep using t-zones?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mannyg78:
So I installed the bionix rom and for some reason it doesn't allow me to sync my Facebook contacts with my phone contacts. I've tried from the Facebook app

and it doesn't even have the option anymore. I've also tried from the accounts section and when I click on add it just goes back to the accounts screen. Please help!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] BarryH_GEG:
It's gone in 2.3.X. HTC and Samsung somehow still do it via Sense and Touchwiz which is why their 2.3.X. phones still do it. Native Android, not so much.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/11/google-trap-my-data-snark/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] knuckelpuc:
Try this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nloko.android.syncmypix&feature=search_result

Should do the trick.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dcam1075:
Facebook contact sync does not work with Gingerbread at all. The functionality was purposely removed in 2.3. Your only option is a 3rd party app like the one mentioned above.
[Android Software Development] RisinT96:
Hi,

I live in Israel and I am looking for a good offline navigation program for my nexus s (except igo which I'd don't know if it legal) I thought about sygic but it doesn't seem to have Israeli maps so I don't wana spend money, the same problem is with copilot and other programs.

If you know of any or know where to get Israeli map for cygic or other app please tell me.
[Android Software Development] 3rdstring:
A Google Maps mod?

Edit: Sorry, didn't notice the "offline"
[General Questions and Answers] jraz305:
ok so im a noob ,,, to the forum .. but i have expierence with blackberry and nokia.. android im learning rather quickley,, here is my issue ..... data

i used a w385 at first to get it on the network ..got every thing working except ... mms ,, and data stayed at 1x

then i upgraded to samsung instinct .. m810 .... which i had on boost a while ago and 3g worked ...

well phone did the hands free activation .....activated with no problem unlike ... w385... but cant seem to get evdo to .. work... i notice ..,evdo will come on ... and shut off after a few min ....cause i have the signal strength widget ... but be sideds that im lost ... ive tested the instinct and its able to youtube ,,, but not the evo ....any suggestions or questions regarding my issue feel free to ask im gonna be trying all day ... ..to get it work ing .......

thanks in advance ... awsome forum ... got all my info from the epic thread,,,
[General Questions and Answers] jraz305:
any one ....

just like to confirm that there is not an issue with evdo rev 0 ,a or b with this set up .. thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] jraz305:
can any one respond
[General Questions and Answers] jraz305:
cause if there is can some one please advise thank you