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[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
It's their network....

Whatever personal information people think Sprint can get from Carrier IQ they already have access to by other means. I have no problem with anyone wanting to remove it for bloat reasons, but the idea it's some sort of invasion of privacy seem far fetched to me. If you are that paranoid about stuff like that, I would recommend sticking with a land line and staying far away from any Google product, much less the internet in general.
[Epic 4G General] twolostminds:
Hey Stud,

Lets cut the guy a little slack. He just signed up on XDA that that was his first post. Lets give him at least a little time to get permission to respond before we completely flame him.
[Epic 4G General] twolostminds:
Thank you very much for contributing your opinions about the thread topic. We completely understand your disinterest in protecting yourself from key loggers and potentially invasive spyware. As such, please provide all your user names and passwords to your financial institutions below.
[Epic 4G General] keschub:
I would think it's safe to say that when you go to your local carrier to purchase said phone that the salesperson dose not even know about it. Each time I go in I end up teaching them about the products they supposedly went through training on. It's really kinda sad that the people that go in for a phone are just receiving sub-par training.

Uploaded from the HTC Shift via XDA app
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Google probably has 100 times more information on us than Sprint ever will. I find it pretty ironic anyone who could be a proponent for using Google products, who's main goal is to fill a database with as much information as they legally can so they can sell it, thinks Carrier IQ is a bigger deal. Whether it has any keylogging capabilities or not, there is no way Sprint or anyone can legally record things like usernames and passwords. What I find the most entertaining is people want to distrust Sprint, a reputable company that didn't even enable this thing, but put full faith in random strangers and have no qualms about flashing all kinds of untested stuff on their phones.
[Epic 4G General] dreamsforgotten:
Just because google does take all this info does that make it right? I run tor and firewalls on both my pc and my cell. There are preventative measures you have the option to choose to remain anonymous if you prefer
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Everyone on the internet is trust worthy! also everything said on the internet is true...I can go on... (Truthfully though this is why GPL is so important to enforce, if source code is released, it prevents people from trying anything funny)

I will put it this way, Sprint has a right to put CIQ on the phones, BUT I think they do need to be upfront that such a thing is there in the first place..its like when you call for support you are informed that this message can be monitored and etc.

Now we can debate how Google doesn't warn you and etc..but we don't pay Google we pay Sprint..so sprint has this obligation to inform us that it exists and what they plan to use it for.

Otherwise if they tell us its there and what it tracks I have no issue with it..if it helps them better their network that is perfectly acceptable..though it may have been wiser on sprints part to include a more "stripped down" version of CIQ rather then the full feature one they put in the phone.
[Epic 4G General] Phasma343:
I just dont want the bloat and performance hit of it. That seems pretty reasonable to ask for.

It isn't easy to remove like the rest of the bloatware apps that get loaded onto our phones.

Also to the CarrierIQ rep: You are trying to preach to the wrong people regarding your software. Telling us that it is to help be able to diagnose issues isn't much of an argument. This forum is usually a better resource for help than calling into tech support.

IMO the carriers and the phone manufacturers should spend more time working on actual issues with the phone *cough* keyboard *cough* *cough* than adding this kind of software. Especially if they already have means of obtaining the data anyways. Doesn't exactly make sense to pay licenses etc to a third party to do that when you already have the ability in place.
[Epic 4G General] NEXUS 4G:
When u give up your freedom for liberty, u lose both

- Author Unknown
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Well I'm all for removing bloat, which is all I consider this thing to be rather than some conspiracy to extract personal information so Sprint can empty our bank accounts while stealing our porn. I agree that the only beef I have with it is the difficulty in removing compared to your typical bloatware, but the same can be said for that stupid DRM service and a few other things that can hit performance and are hard to remove or cause problems if they are removed. As for Sprint having the "right" to put it on our phones, yes they do as long as they aren't using it for illegal purposes, just like we have the right to remove it. Sprint has a legal obligation to protect sensitive private information. If you don't trust Sprint to do that, then that is a different issue entirely. Don't we all give Sprint our credit card and/or checking account info to pay our bills along with address, phone number, etc?
[Epic 4G General] twolostminds:
You are right, Sprint has every legal right to place software on our phones to gather metrics and protect their services. Where the law draws the line is when that software has the ability to extract personal information and invade privacy. The law doesn't distinguish between installed and unused or used. If the ability is there, it is against the law. I'll be the first to say that the law is having a hard time catching up with technology and that there are no cases on point but there are similar cases involving home computers and software vendors invading privacy that cover this same issue.

As for having the right to remove it....Per communications with Sprint removal of CarrierIQ voids your warranty and may void the TOS. Sprint has provided documentation on the warranty but so far has refused to provide any documentation showing how it is a violation of the terms of service.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Care to share this law that states this? A lot of it has to do with intent. A keylogger by itself is not an illegal piece of software. It's only illegal if it's being used for illegal purposes. Guns have the "ability" to kill people, yet they are perfectly legal as long as you aren't using them for that purpose.
[Epic 4G General] twolostminds:
The law I am referring to in this instance is "case law". In simplest terms, it is a Judge's decision based upon interpretation of one or more laws relevant to a trial. I cannot site specific laws because honestly I have only read the case summaries and not only do not have the time to read the full cases but have no desire to either. There are multiple cases over the past decade that as I said before are not "on point" but relevant to this issue. An individual citizen can own a gun, or a piece of hardware or software that "can" be used for illegal purposes, it is legal to own but not use. Corporations are held to a different standard of law as they are not individuals or citizens. A corporation cannot knowingly place invasive spyware on consumer hardware without advising the consumer of its full abilities and in the case of some types of information offer an opt-in/opt-out option. Irregardless of the law, corporations do this all the time counting on the public's indifference and in some cases bank on the risk to reward ratio knowing that the profits made by the illegal action will far exceed the legal fees associated with said actions.
[Epic 4G General] twolostminds:
Now while I would absolutely love to take credit for this I highly doubt that I can.....

It looks like Sprint has left CarrierIQ out of the HTC Evo 3D. Won't know 100% for sure until the phone is rooted and the stock ROM is dumped but it is not showing up anywhere in the phone.

I would love to think that requests to Sprint for FCC & FTC compliance documents regarding the use of Carrier IQ and how Sprint has been running scared since those requests where made caused them to leave out the CIQ software but I doubt it.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
If they want to put it in it is no biggie to me. I just take it out...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
Hey,

As the title says above my Htc desire z , became g2 t-mobile.

This happened because my camera gives weird rainbow colors so i wanted to send it back to HTC but in order to have my warranty i'll have to unroot it.

So what i did is , follow a unrooting guide from google. which said unrooting for desire z/g2 t-mobile but it turned out that it made me install a G2 t-mobile stock rom , while i need to get sense stock on my phone.

Can anyone help me to return back to stock sense?

The stock i have now atm is the G2 t-mobile 1.19 version

other extra information:

VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF

HBOOT-0.82.0000

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.02.01.15_M2

eMMB -boot
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sengalang:
Root your phone do a wipe through recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
so i need to root it as a G2 t-mobile? do you know any rooting guides?

And after wiping i need to use the PC10IMG.zip of the 1.34 stock sense?

or do i only have to install superuser? since i got S-off
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beagan:
i dont even know how that happened to be honest wouldnt installing another rom through the RUU brick it?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
ehm what i did is , i wanted to unroot my desire z , but it seems the guide wasn't the right one , it made me flash a stock G2 rom , and now i'm stuck on it , it's a RUU 1.19 indeed. i dont think my phone is bricked because i can go into bootloader anytime , you guys got any possibility to get back to sense stock?

thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
Bump. Can anyone help me out (:?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beagan:
sounds very odd. well flash the stock ruu from htc? tht should redo everything :) thts what i did for my old htc hero!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] purple1:
Um just a thoery go to the xda wiki for g2 and desire z.....perm root it....install a rom....then unroot it via gfree and vuala ....just a lil idea you can try
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
Can you exactly tell me which method i need to root it? , i rooted it before with the rage method PC10IMG.zip 1.34 , and isn't gfree included in it?

btw once i rooted this phone back then i couldn't load PC10IMG.zip files because he wont find them , so i turned it back again to G2 , so probably the bootloader is G2 now or something because he wont recognise PC10IMG.zip files anymore the htc sense stock ones.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
i suppose i cant get back to sense anymore? since my phone became total g2 :/ what should i do?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
bump. can someone assist me?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shortlived:
I can't help you out too much but I can say, Just root it again, then try to unroot it again following a different guide. is ther anything stoping you from simply rooting it again?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civano:
nope i can root easily , i am rooted now but i can only install custom roms , and not a stock sense rom. :/
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pfak:
Install the Engineering HBOOT and do HTC Sense RUU like normal.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swee08315:
It sounds to me like the ruu you installed was the stock tmobile rom.

I'd listen to pfac (right above this post)

try to find a ruu for the desire z stock rom
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
The paint on the kickstand is chipping away, but that's not really a big deal but now the back of the speaker is lifting up. The only thing I am afraid of is if they send me another phone it more then likely will be a refurbish unit and on top of that the phone that I have now don't really have any reboot problems. My XDA fellows what should I do?

Oh yea I know somebody going say I dropped my phone and etc, that's not the case I notice the build quality on this phone is not very good
[Thunderbolt General] SomeGuyDude:
I'd be leary given the rebooting issues, but to be honest I have faith in refurbs. Never treated me wrong.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
That's what I am scared about. Honestly I get maybe two reboots every week and a half.
[Thunderbolt General] SomeGuyDude:
Hang onto it for a little while. Might be fine.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
I was thinking about putting a little bit of crazy glue to hold down the speaker:confused:
[Thunderbolt General] SomeGuyDude:
VERY little. I assume you're just talking about the little plastic grate over it, in which case a little dab'll do ya just fine. Careful with that.

Keep in mind I don't own a TBolt yet, but I've been around the block with gadgets and gizmos.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
yea the plastic grate. I might do it:D
[Thunderbolt General] dadsterflip:
I don't understand what you guys do to do that? Had mine since day one and no chip or anything in that matter. No case maybe? Just wanna understand so I can avoid it . Im very picking when it comes to cosmetic .
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
smh I knew somebody was going say this.

That's why I said this in my original post

Handle my phone very carefully....I notice the paint coming off the same day I purchased it. Never dropped my phone.

I came from the hd2 and imo it has way better build quality then this phone
[Thunderbolt General] thetwiztidfreak:
I would just put a tiny dap of super glue if you go that route, also i have had good luck with refurbs over the years but i know several people that have not been so lucky unfortenetly.

Also if the kick stand is pealing hit it with a little sand paper and polish looks way better that way. Saw a post some one made in the general forum and it looked really nice so did it myself as well.
[Thunderbolt General] bd1212:
DO NOT USE SUPER GLUE!

My plastic speaker grill on my Bolt started to come up so I put some super glue on it thinking it'd stick it back down. WRONG! The glue started to come up through the small holes in the speaker grill and now it's very rough to the touch and I cannot remove it.

Also, the paint on my kickstand is also peeling, but that's not a problem. All you need to do is sand the paint of with a Scotchbrite Pad and then polish it. It looks better than new. :)
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
Thanks for the heads up bro:) Scotchbrite pad?
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
reason why I dont want to go the reboot route is because I am real scared to get a unit that's going reboot every sec. So far I am really not having much problems with this unit when it comes to rebooting. The speaker thing is really bothering me..its like when you a little kid and you keep on picking at your cut:)
[Thunderbolt General] bp328i:
I say that if you have not voided your warranty send it back. This is what a warranty is for.

If you get a phone that reboots all the time keep sending them back as well untill you get a working Thunderbolt. Enough people send the phone back for "real" warranty issues and maybe HTC will improve their build quality.

Sorry but just like dadsterflip said I'm very picking when it comes to cosmetic as well and what your describing would drive me nuts or I would just end up hating the phone.

I returned my first Thunderbolt because of the light leak at the bottom of the screen and made them open 4 brand new Thunderbolts to find one that did not have the same issue.
[Thunderbolt General] bd1212:
Yeah, that's what some dude on twitter told me he used to sand down his kickstand lol... I actually tried it a few hours after that post and it didn't work to well... maybe I was doing it wrong, though lol.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
Got my refurbished phone yesterday and it rebooted five times today...I am sending it back and keeping this phone wit the broken speaker grill...I'm not getting another unit until they release the new update at the end of the month...couldn't hang up phone calls...couldn't put the phone on airplane mode....really disappointed with HTC and this phone...I can't wait till a better phone comes out
[Thunderbolt General] Vassago187:
The coating on my kickstand started peeling like two days after I bought the phone. I've been peeling it off ever since. Definitely not a misuse scenario, just a poor coating. Doesn't really bother me since it'll all be gone soon anyways. I'd be a little pissed if the speaker grille started coming off though.
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
spoke to about three representatives and they said an updated is coming at the end of the month.....The speaker grill is really bothering me tho but I can't take swapping out refurbish phones just find a working unit...hopefully the new update fixes this issue
[Thunderbolt General] Chaztera:
I heard the update is being released 6-15-11...
[Thunderbolt General] mbrown3460:
Heard end of the month...one rep said its gingerbread but I don't think he knows what he's talking about
[Thunderbolt General] shaggy5991:
Had the same problem, DO NOT send it in for a refurb, i had them send me one when i got it, it was peeling to as well and a broken power button and poorly working volume buttons i sent it back and kept mine sanding it and polishing it works great, ive had great refurbs in the past but in my experience and everyone ive talked to abt it with a thunderbolt there sending phones that are way worse of atleast for now.
[Thunderbolt General] scottthreet32:
Unless something is truely beyond hard reset and start over and lets go from there....clnr are p.o.s. 1-10 is going to be fair to medlin outside might be nice but camera might be crap do really wanna open that can of worms....I dont really miss my windows htc imagio 6.5 phone dont miss reflashing lastest firmware cause hard reset sucks dont miss countless hours resyncing music and contacts .
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topshottas23:
if i give someone a youtube video link can you make it into a boot animation
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dased14:
whatcha got?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topshottas23:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m26UfLOKsrY
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topshottas23:
IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT TO A BOOT ANIMATION YOUR THE GREATEST
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dased14:
Is there a certain part you like or just want me to edit it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dased14:
here try this and tell me what you think(edited the video a little) hope it is what you was thinking. (media) is asop other is for sense.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topshottas23:
What do I do after I download it. Is it flashable
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dased14:
yes it's flashable
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topshottas23:
Great work. How did u do it. I wanna learn how to do it with audio
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] RaistlinMajere:
Hi, does anyone know if this app will work on transformer ?

It doesn't show in the market for me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] makaveliq3:
I would also like to know if there is a way to use to siriusxm app on the tf as well and have been having the same issues with the market.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] jeffhvt:
sirius/xm

Yes, it works. Think I had to go to Siriusxm to get it. However, it is far from my favorite music 'station'. You must login, each time, and you loose the music if you go to any other app (like reading a book.)

They really need to do some work on this if they want to keep me as a subscriber!

Jeff
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] jbburwell:
The android phone amp doesn't work

It sounds like you are talking about the internet web-based SiriusXM player. I couldn't agree more with you and I think the Web player stinks. Like you I'm not happy with it. If it wasn't for their Android phone amp, I'd drop the subscription. That app works really well on my phones. However!

The SiriusXM android phone app does

not

work on the transformer. I tried installing it from a phone backup. The app will start, but will never get past the "updating" first page.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arnies_fone:
Ive had my nand flash running for a few months now and no problem but i thought it time to re-flash with a new ROM.

So upon connecting to my Win7 PC for the first time since i flashed it, i cannot get any connectivity.

I downloaded Windows Mobile Centre and it is simply not recognising when i plug it in.

Any advise appreciated.

Thx
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kailkti:
Windows mobile device center does not react with android. >.>

Did you turn on USB storage when you connected it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arnies_fone:
Thx for the reply - i kinda figured that would be the case - but could u give me more details as to where this usb storage is ?

Sorry for the noob q
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arnies_fone:
When i connect it up, my PC is not registering anything at all ??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] erezz:
back to bootloader and work with pc then use the guide...
[Verizon Droid Charge] streetlightman:
Ok, sorry for the newb questions but this is the first time i am going to do something to any smartphone so there's somethings I don't understand.

1. Will I loose all of my data on my phone? I understand with flashing a new ROM i would but flashing a different kernel is different right? Also, what's the difference between a ROM and a kernel?

1b. If I will loose my data, is there anyway to back up some of that app data without being rooted? I know that once I am rooted I can use Titanium Backup.

2. Would you recommend using Odin to flash the Charge or something else? All of the instructions in the dev section say to use Odin but I've also seen some people say that you should use Heimdall and idk what that is. If you think I should use Odin, what version should i use?

3. Which kernel are you using and which one would you recommend.

4. If something goes wrong, you guys got my back right? lol

Thank you very much
[Verizon Droid Charge] boostedjti:
1. No data loss.

2. Kernel is what the rom uses to operate in a sense. The kernel is what drives the phone, rom is what dresses it up.

3. I flash my kernels via cwm... but I use Odin for a lot as well. I use version 1.3 on my laptop and 1.7 on my gf's. Both do the same thing.

4. If you have problems people can help. Just read a lot before committing.
[Verizon Droid Charge] streetlightman:
thanks for the reply.

actually, reading more into it, i think I want to flash the altered beast rom. with that there would be data loss right?
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
pretty sure when I flashed that it did wipe data.
[Verizon Droid Charge] papi92:
I believe it doesn't touch data. It only has a system file no data or datadata
[Verizon Droid Charge] streetlightman:
thanks for the replies. so basically, all i have to do is hook up to Odin and flash it and I'm done? I don't have to do a manual data wipe before I flash it correct?

I'm running stock non-rooted ED2 right now if that matters.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hoppermi:
You may be right, I lost data once in the first couple days, but don't remember what I flashed anymore.
[Verizon Droid Charge] streetlightman:
didn't do a data wipe for me. still have angry birds data :-)

thanks for all your help
[Verizon Droid Charge] Sherwood1:
Guys my biggest quirk with touchwiz is when u press off buttin the dim is sooooo slow. Any fix for this. The dim seems to stutter when i press vutton to get screen off.
[Verizon Droid Charge] burningembers:
This was an issue on my Fascinate and Epic too and was eventually fixed via updates and custom kernel/rom so I can only hope the same is true here :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] Sherwood1:
Cool great thanx i never knew they fixed it on fascinate.