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[Xoom General] p-slim:
So the fact that they still show commercials saying 4G upgradeable doesnt prove to you theyre still working on 4G? I'm not even going to get into sd cards, I think samsung was right by not even putting one, that way they don't have to listen to complaints from people like the ones in this forum.
[Xoom General] kalfou:
Apple fanboy? So someone gives their honest view of an OS and suddenly their a fanboy... lemme tell you something I was using android when it was first released, I'm using android right now on my HTC desire, gb is nice, honeycomb is not, so I say screw you to a couple of companies that harbor android and suddenly I'm an apple fanboy? Are you retarded?

You know the interesting thing about this is I have been an android user from the beginning and been on all forums, apple and android related and especially on android I always see people going out of their way to *****ing about ios and how stupid they are... you guys need to re-evaluate your views, still f**k you sony, Motorola and Samsung

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[Xoom General] eliteone:
Once again....... wow! You sure are a nice fella aren't you? Respect full too;-) you come on here spewing crap ,this f you, your all crap yadda yadda blah blah. Then when someone tells you to take a hike if you hate honeycomb, moto, Sammy and seemingly everyone else who has anything to do with android you have the intelligence to reply with......retard? Nice. Oh and good riddance:-) enjoy your icrap and hopefully you work out your seeming rage issues sooner than later.

Edit: now maybe we can just get this thread back on topic? And nthknd you make a very good point, this should be a place of friendly exchange of opinions and info........
[Xoom General] JimmyHACK:
Most likely buy one
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Its simple for me, I will not be rooting my tablet so which ever tablet will get the soonest updates and only runs pure vanilla is the tab I'm going to own.
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
I am always so confused on why their are so many people that are against rooting their devices. Why would you not want to have complete access to the file system?
[Xoom General] kcrudup:
Some people don't need all that, though. Android tablets like the Xoom will never have the type of market saturation that ensures mainstream apps, hardware and features unless the things the Average Jane wants come with them out-of-the-box or easily installable (like- dare I say it- iDevices do).

I for one am glad it's rootable/hackable (well, mostly- release the HC source, Google!) but it's easy to see where a lot of people couldn't care less (which is why I think BS like "Unlocked Bootloader Petitions" are a waste of time; the HW manufacturers aren't making these things for the 0.001% of consumers who'll want that).
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I'm definitely not against rooting my phones,I'm an android specialist. But after rooting my xoom the first 3 days after it was released I didn't find a need to root. 32gbs is more then enough for me so I don't need the sd slot. Also I fly alot and like to rent and download movies before my flights, I don't have time to burn them. My evo is rooted and I've ran every custom rom available but I haven't found a real reason to root my xoom
[Xoom General] djsaad1:
Your right, I didn't think about the rental aspect. I forgot that google blocked rooted devices.
[Xoom General] iainjohnmorrison:
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 does not have an MicroSD Card slot, it couldn't support it when Honeycomb does anyway.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
This just doesn't make any sense nor do you have anything to back that up. You do realize honeycomb has only been out since late february, so were talking about 3 months only. This is the same thing they said about android phones now look at the recent comscores. The honeycomb market grows daily and honeycomb tablets will surpass ipad by next year, do you know how many honeycomb tablets are launching this year. I shouldn't even reply because its the same guy crying about the sd slot now he has a ipad and its not even an option nor is the 4G he was crying about also. Both features he didn't need (because his new device doesn't have it) but yet he wanted to be complaining the loudest about not having sd and 4G YET. you're a clown
[Xoom General] kcrudup:
Uh, context much?

1 - ... you omitted the all important part of my sentence where I said "unless we have features available w/o having to root"

2 - HC is not the first tablet Android SW, and Android tablets have been out for a year

3 - you're obviously confusing me w/someone else; I helped get SD-Card working on the Xoom, and don't own an I device nor want one
[Xoom General] p-slim:
You're right it wasn't you complaining that would've made no sense. But in context to what you were saying honeycomb has only been around since february 24 or 26th. The 1st galaxy tab and that dell pos aren't actually tabs because they run froyo, those are actually just big phones but tablet size. If its not running honeycomb, its not a real android tablet and shiuldnt be compared to ipad
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
You do realize you don't have 4G and without root a working SD card reader either. 3 and half months and counting.

Anyone want to start a pool and see who guesses the closest to when Motorola finally delivers 4G and a working SD card reader?

I'll take August the 9th for 4g, and September the 23rd for the SD card reader.

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[Xoom General] p-slim:
Ide be fine with both those dates. Honestly I could careless about the sd slot but I do want my 4G. If by august I have 4G ill be a happy camper and feel like verizon obligated their promise.
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
Yeah, except their promise was to be the first 4g tablet... which they're not. And for that to happen within 90 days, which it did not. And none of this is from verizon. Try Motorola man, verizon isn't promising **** to do with our tablet.
[Xoom General] csseale:
Amazing.....
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
Of course you're alright with it. Just like Apple had fanboys that were alright with holding their iPhone 4 a different way and couldn't understand why everyone was *****ing about the flawed antenna design.

Fanboys love bending over for the object of their obsession.

If you cannot understand why people are frustrated with Motorola for failing to fulfill their obligations in a timely manner, you are truly an irrational ass-licking fanboy, and anything you say should be viewed as mere fanboy nonsense by all.

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[Xoom General] p-slim:
I'm alright with it because they didn't give me a timeframe and for me to make my own is stupid. It useless arguing with you because your the dumbass who bought a 800 machine without doing any research or knowing your sd slot didn't work. Also you're the dummy who had a 30 day return period but kept it. You're definitely the the moron not me or motorola
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
Actually I had two weeks to return it, liar.

Typical lying fanboy.

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[Xoom General] Kippui:
You guys need to stop your QQ?
[Xoom General] colbyb25:
I think they should just go on a date a get it over with :)

In all seriousness, I agree with both. Yes I would of liked more communication from Motorola, but do I care...not really. Yes SD would be nice, but I would of unlocked and flashed a custom kernal anyway so I don't care. Yes I want to have a 4g modem on this card, but don't give a crap about activating it. 4g in its current technological state is a joke and just another way for our carriers to over charge us. I bought the 3g because it was out first, but never activated the 3g. 4g just makes it a little mote enticing when i sell it at the end of the year. I am a happy early adopter and love my Xoom. Bought my wife one too and after 3.1, she loves hers too. I have a Droid X and love that and will probably get the Droid 3 when it comes out even though I don't love Motorola, I like their devices. Technology is advancing so fast that anything we have is transient because most of us are tech junkies and the next fastest thing is always going to be coming out next month...perpetually...for ever!

I say everyone needs to relax and enjoy their products. Complaining and calling eachother names is pretty juvenile and more importantly it doesn't solve anything. Life is too short and in 3 months both of you are going to want different, more powerful tablets anyway...I know I will.
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
Is it juvenile to point out when someone is making **** up?

Sorry, but I don't let fanboys lie about me.

As an owner of a Droid, a D2, and now a Xoom, I've paid for my right to complain about the incompetence of Mororola.

I will never buy another Motorola product again, because Motorola first tried to cover up their 4G problems with silence, then they basically gave two different bull**** excuses, for their 4G problems.

It's like Congressman Wiener. I couldnt care less about his internet sex games. What pissed me off was the lies to cover up their problems.

If you want to continue to keep dealing with a company that cannot honestly deal with their obvious problems, you deserve what you get.

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[Xoom General] colbyb25:
Sure. But I am not complaining so what I am getting is products I enjoy even though I am not a fan or Motorola.

Sure you can complain. That is your right. But if you are surprised that you find "fan boys" in the XDA thread in the Xoom section then well...that's your own fault. Am I a fan boy cause I don't care that we don't have SD and 4g from moto? Or am I just someone who doesn't think it is worth my time to get worked up over something that I do have any control over, find trivial and not worth the energy. As I said, life is short and my wife and I are enjoying our Xooms so where's the issue?

You and the other guy are arguing over semantics and subjective opinions that turned into name calling. What's the point? Who cares if some random dude on a messenger forum a.) Doesn't like you or b.) Is calling you names. There is a higher road to take and you shouldn't feel the need to vindicate yourself to others over the internet.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Whats funny is when its all said and done ive already won because I'm happy and love my product, hes the one upset and obviously as a grown adult cant do any research and then blames motorola. Let him keep crying its funny to me. He must wear a big diaper because he walks around with a lot of bull****. If within 2 weeks or 30 days (depending on where and what state you buy it from) that's more then enough time to figure out the sd slot doesnt work. Like i said I'm happy with my product, moto got their money from this guy, I'm laughing at him after every one of his replies. Also please leave because you're definitely the kind of customer that just likes to *****, whatever company he uses he will always find something to wine about
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
No, it doesn't make you a fanboy.

Did I call you one? No.

That you don't care that you aren't getting the full value and use of your Xoom, does make you seem a little out of touch though.

You already paid a premium price for 4G, so any rational consumer should care about getting the what they paid for. In this economy, I suspect your careless attitude is the exception, not the rule.

I already feel like I've been conned out of my hard earned cash by Motorola, so I'm gonna make sure no fanboy gets away spouting BS, and helping Motorola con more people with empty 4G promises.

The Xoom's warranty states that it begins at the time of sale. I've already have had over three and a half months of warranty time taken from me because of Motorola's incompetence in delivering 4G and a working SD card reader with no end in sight.

You may not care about getting full value for your money, but I do, so I'll keeping responding to any post I feel is an apology for Motorola not fulfilling their obligations to Xoom owners in a timely manner.

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[Xoom General] p-slim:
Once again putting your own timeframe on things and justifying it in your mind alone, lmfao. Keep em coming. Tell us how you really feel, lol
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
You have won nothing.

I haven't once said I don't like my Xoom. It's Motorola, their incompetence, and their obvious BS excuses that I have a problem.

But keep up arguing with the voices in your head, instead of with what I write, because I bet you'll lose that argument too!

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[Xoom General] p-slim:
They will only need an excuse if they scrap the project, if they're still working on it, there aren't any need for excuses because they've done nothing wrong
[Xoom General] apollyon0810:
I think what it all comes down to is money. Since I shelled out over 800 dollars when the Xoom came out, I expected a lot for my money. I think a lot of these arguments come down to how much $800 is to the purchaser. When you say things like "yeah the **** doesn't work, but me and my wife love our Xooms" it comes off as a little pretentious. When some people couldn't hardly afford one, let alone two, your reference on value and what you expect to get for your money changes. And that's the reason for the disparity. I love what my Xoom can do, I hate the support for the device. I don't give two ****s who's at fault, because I paid "OVER 800 DOLLARS" (lol) for the damn thing. that's a very significant chunk of change to me, and may be the single most expensive thing I purchase all year. Me paying $800 for this thing feels comparatively a lot like I just purchased a high end sports car. People should be bending over backwards to make me happy, because I purchased such a premium product. but unfortunately, Motorola doesn't make the same comparison I do. Sure a lot of forum members on here can afford to not care their device doesn't work as it should, but I for one just feel plain-ol ripped off. That being said, I'm rooted with a custom kernel and wouldn't trade this thing fo any other tablet out there right now.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I agree with you but I also believe motorola is doing their best to get 4G working. They ran into problems and are still working on it. You can't expect them to spoon feed you at the same time, when the update is ready they will push it out. Now you paid 800 for a device without sd and 4g and besides those everything works. The only thing moto promised us is that we will have 4g and sd slot and we will. When you purchase something and their is no timeframe given you as a consumer can't complain if when its finally done it didn't meet your timeframe. If 4g and sd were that important then as a consumer you shouldn't have bought that device or returned it within the timeframe. I want 4G also and asap but that doesn't mean moto is dicking us around because we don't have it yet. This ripped off feeling someone needs to explain to me. It seems like it keeps coming down to timing and that isn't correct. I will only feel ripped off once they say they've given up on either or both of those projects (honestly I really only care about 4G, samsung and ios were smart about not even putting an sd slot)
[Xoom General] gogol:
Even if the "project" will finish after a year?

Gosh ... I still dont understand people who paid premium, expensive thing then got nothing after months ... And dont care with it.

Next time, Motorola will sell preorder ticket and same kind of people will still buy!

" Here is your Xoom 3, with LCD and dual core XYZ. Note the screen will be upgraded to Hyper Amoled and the processor will have quad core on the coming months ... "

By Motrolla, The company who sells promises

Yep, I wrote Motrolla ...
[Xoom General] p-slim:
If it takes a year I'm assuming by then they'll have a xoom 2 so the project of 4G should definitely be completed by then. To throw up some arbitrary dates, if I have 4G by end of the summer ill be cool. After the summer I'm sure we'll be seeing quadcore tablets so hopefully the 4G project will be complete.
[Xoom General] colbyb25:
I am not trying to be pretentious, just realistic with my needs. As I stated, I don't care about SD, because I was planning on unlocking and flashing a custom kernel or rom anyway...which ended up allowing my micro SD card to work..so I am out of nothing. As far as 4G concerns, I have again stated that personally I don't care for it currently. The coverage isn't there yet and I am sure the battery life issue still needs some time to work itself out. So I don't use 4G let alone the 3G service.

I bought the Xoom as an early adopter fully knowing what I was getting into. I wanted an android tablet and got what I paid for. A fully functioning Xoom that perfectly suits MY needs. Maybe not yours, but that isn't my problem. If a product that I purchase suits my needs, regardless of how much I pay for it or how many I buy, how does that make me pretentious?

Just about every tech company that I have purchased from leaves something to be desired, usually when it comes to an open line of communication. I own two companies and fully understand the value of Customer Support, but in the end it is all context sensitive. Would I like a more thorough "Road Map" for the Xoom, sure. Am I going to ***** about it? No, I have better things to do with my day. As I said in a few posts above, technology is moving at light speed, especially with mobile phones and tablets. I paid $800 for a google experience device that will last me till a quad core comes out and then I will sell this and move on. My experience, especially after 3.1, has been nothing short of fantastic with the Xoom itself. Between that and the fact I am selling it at the end of the year, I don't regret spending $800 at all.

Everyone complaining about 4G is amusing in my mind because with everything moving to the cloud, your bills are going to be insane. If you are worried about $800 for a tablet, try doing the math with your contact with your service provider for 12 months....now that is something to complain about!
[Xoom General] REHolt218:
I bought the Xoom because I knew it would be possible to root it and get neet features. So what if one of those features is a working SD card? At least Motorola put the hardware in.

Rooted and running Tiamat Rom version 1.0 the Xoom does everything I wanted it for and more. Call me a fanboy if you like, but I think the Xoom is great!
[Xoom General] local_crack_dealer:
I think Google is at fault for the SD card not working yet. I think they haven't figured out a way to enable it without compromising the file structure to the user. Maybe not, I don't know. Thank god for the dev's and espically bigrushdog for the support and making me even happier with my xoom. I have a droid2 and I swore I would never buy another motor product due to the bootloader being encrypted and permalocked.
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
ROFL! Motorola's CEO has already given two BS excuses, and in my experience, when someone gives 2 different excuses for the same problem that means that that person is trying to cover up something, but isn't smart enough to keep his story straight.

Sorry, but reality shows that even Motorola's CEO is giving excuses, yet you are too stupid to realize that reality.

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[Xoom General] kurttrail:
Since Motorola went into coverup mode,and nearly 4 months have passed and there is still no 4G radio in sight, my concerns are that of any rational consumer.

Fanboys, like you, think with hearts not rationally.

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[Xoom General] p-slim:
Sooooo what are they trying to cover up, the fact they ran into problems? Who the **** cares? Obviously they ran into problems because its not out yet. Are they still working on it .... yes, that's all that matters. Common sense wasn't given to all I see
[Xoom General] comagnum:
what baffles me is all of the things that independent developers such as bigrushdog and trd and others have been able to accomplish that even the Google devs have not. If the xoom was released with the kind of support and prowess that we receive from our community, it would have become the best selling tablet out there, hands down. There, to me, is no excuse why we didn't have a polished and smooth interface from the second we opened the box.

And what further bafles me is that it seems like Motorola devs are completely oblivious to all of the things that we, not me or most of us, just using general statements, have been able to do with the device. Either the people running that company are completely clueless, or they don't care. If icecream comes and new tablets surface, I hope and pray they look to independent devs such as bigrushdog or at least emulate their work before releasing things with a terrible, laggy and unpolished operating system.

Side note, what are the chances of the xoom being able to be updated to future android installments?
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
"They will only need an excuse if they scrap the project, if they're still working on it, there aren't any need for excuses because they've done nothing wrong" - pslim

Fact: Motorola's CEO has given TWO different excuses.

So by your logic, Motorola has scrapped 4g twice already.

And how do you really know that Motorola is "still working on it?" Just because you've seen some Verizon ads still advertising the Xoom is 4g upgradable?
[Xoom General] comagnum:
From what I can tell, Motorola has the engineering and hardware down pat, but their marketing and such is severely lacking..
[Xoom General] brianmoriarty:
I don't see what the big deal is. I have internet on my xoom. We're only missing out on a bit of faster internet, and not indefinitely. Electronics are never perfect. If moto spent the last three months completing 4g, i wouldnt have had a tablet the last three months. They cut corners to get it out firsr, and thats why it was released so early. The internet is like that AC to a new car reference in the sense that it only goes up three quarters of the way with a fix to come later, not that its missing completely.

As for complaints on the sd card, thats googles fault and theyve admitted it multiple times. Other manufacturers put in an unofficial work around. I got a xoom BECAUSE its plain vanilla, thats why we got an update first.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I know they're working on it because of these 2 websites. im pretty sure if they weren't working on the update they would take these websites down.

http://support.vzw.com/faqs/Equipment/xoom_upgrade.html

http://phones.verizonwireless.com/xoom/upgrade/
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
Yayyyy! - kudrup & p-slim to the rescue!

You people upset about Motorola not having done what they promised are know-nothing morons who just ***** about nothing, right guys?!

Hell yeah! Buncha know-nothing whiners, right?

Lemme tell both you clowns something- I don't give a flippin' **** what either of you asshats know about this technology. For you to even TRY to trivialize the concerns of the disgruntled Motorola consumers after this anal Xoom **** that's been perpetrated is nearly as criminal. You both represent the worst in every iPad toting Apple fanboy I've ever seen troll an Android forum. I've seen enough of you on the Motorola forums to know you've both earned your tin Motorola fanboy badges.

You might think you're hot **** over there, but you're just members like us over here. This is a REAL forum. If you wanna feel special, go crawl back over there where you can protect Matt and lick his cyber ass.;)
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Posts like these are my favorite. You see me on motorola forums? I may have 3 posts on there and they were all right after the xoom was released. Psychokitty you've really hurt my feelings today, lmfao. Go buy another device so you can go complain in those forums because crybabies will always cry and *****es will always... well you get the point
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
Yeah, maybe I haven't seen you over there nearly as much as your boyfriend, but there's no denying you're every bit the asshole he is. You both make me sick with every post you violate this forum with.