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[Xoom General] rschenck:
First, remember part of why you have gotten no info from Motorola is that Google may not be ALLOWING any info to be issued. That is very very Google.

Second, yes I agree about ICS. I am quite sure that Honeycomb is a dead end that will not go beyond 3.1. After Google has changed their roadmap, and is now focusing on ICS as a single version for all devices. Personally, I have hopes we will see an official ICS update for the Xoom. If not, I am sure someone on XDA will hack together a ROM from the released sources.

And speaking of courses....yes, the prevailing wisdom is that the Honeycomb code is inherently flawed and patched together, lacking elegance. Therefore Google doesn't want it exposed. I personally believe that.

I am still waiting for Wednesday. If Thursday dawns and the Transformers are still running 3.0.1, I will take that as confirmation of the rumor that Honeycomb is being blocked in Europe by Google.
[Xoom General] terminal 7:
blame who

yeah..

going back to the comment about Moto's silence - this could well be Googles silence in fact... and Motorola despite manufacturing the Xoom probably dont have much control over the software entirely because this is a 'Google Experience' device.

it might be worth noting that when the update surfaces it will most likely hit the air waves via a Google server, Google=Control !

despite all this i must say that we all knew the Xoom was early to stores with half baked software and non functional sd card etc, i personally still love my Xoom and once a few more months pass by and more dev work is done ill be flashing a custom rom anyway! - gotta look at it from the long term point of view.

nearly 2 years ago i bought a HTC HD2 knowing that i would love Android to run on it, it took about 7 months before that goal was realized but the process of getting linux working on it was just about as much fun as i ever had with a device. - my point ? early adopters are always faced with bugs and trials to overcome, !!

Back to the ASUS again, it looks like last week was 3.1 day >>

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/asus-eee-pad-transformer-gets-android-3-1-update-right-on-schedu/
[Xoom General] zbee:
sooo, maybe we can port windows CE, or maybe ME then again a bit of NT then we would have windows CE ME NT omg an old joke but great time to ressurect that old chestnut....oh bring back cobol etc back to prehistoric
[Xoom General] rschenck:
Was this in the US or Europe...hard to work out location.
[Xoom General] gogol:
It is very easy for Motorola to blame someone else.

SD card slot not functioning? Blame Google ...

Still no LTE update? Blame Nvidia ...

No 3.1 for European? Blame Google ...

What next?

Where is their responsibility?

In the future, Motorola will release next version of Xoom, and say

"RAM will be increased in the coming months" ....

"Toaster functionality will be activated in the next software release" ...

And people will still flock to buy this kind of new dirty marketing tactics.

To my surprised, in the US, people usually file class action lawsuit. When will that happen? ....
[Xoom General] foxmeister:
Both! There was a US and WW OTA to 3.1 for the TF.

Google blocking 3.1 in Europe? Doesn't look that way.

Regards,

Dave
[Xoom General] rschenck:
That is very interesting....Now will the Tab 10.1 appear in Europe or not?
[Xoom General] rschenck:
For the SD card...blame being a Google Experience device. Asus has a working SD card on release due to a proprietary hack (likely similar to the one used in XDA to enable the functionality). As a Google Experience device, Motorola CANNOT hack the code before release...and the Samsung Tab 10.1? Doesn't even have the physical slot for one.

For the LTE Update....that is probably a mix of Moto screwing up the logistics of a hardware update to already released products (the idea was stupid to begin with, just sounds like a nightmare), and the carriers not having the networks ready to support it, thus delaying the whole thing. However I agree the lack of info is ALL Moto's fault on this score.

No 3.1 in Europe...This still seems like Google putting the brakes on this, no reason for Moto to do so that I can think of, at least not for the WiFi models. Asus may have gotten away with it due to the lack of Google Experience restraints. I will be VERY interested to see if the Samsung Tab 10.1 comes out in Europe soon.
[Xoom General] foxmeister:
Taking the first 3 of these, there are very good reasons why these are not available in the UK.

Firstly - Google Voice: The US phone market works very differently to that in the UK (and the rest of Europe).

Firstly, in the US, there is no such thing as a mobile area code (think 07xxxx numbers in the UK), so your landline can often have the same area code as your mobile, and the cost for calling either is identical. In the UK, mobile numbers are handled via the 07xxxx dialing codes, and are charged differently from local and national calls.

In addition, if you call a mobile number both the caller and the call recipient effectively "pay" for the call. This might be real money, or it might be out of inclusive minutes, but the net effect it the same.

So, in the US, if you have a cell plan with say 1000 minutes, that 1000 minutes of calls both made and received within the US and there is no difference in cost between calling a mobile or a landline. In the UK, that 1000 minutes only relates calls you make - you can receive as many calls as you like without cost or reducing your inclusive minutes.

If Google were to launch Google Voice in the UK "as is", it would cost them a fortune every time someone use GV to call a mobile number.

There are pluses and minus to both systems, but personally, I'm not keen on the idea of having to "pay" to receive a phone call from a cold-calling double glazing company! ;)

Next up - Google Music and Google Books: quite simply, Google has to come to a licensing agreement with the copyright holders in each individual territory. This has been done in the US, but not in the UK. It will likely come, but will need to wait until those licensing agreements are in place. This is no different to Google Navigation - in the US, Google "owns" all its map data and can therefore do with it as it wishes, but the UK they licensed maps from Teleatlas and had to come with an agreement with them for use with turn-by-turn navigation.

Although Google is a massive multinational, it's primary operations are in the US, and so it's natural for them to prioritise the US market.

Regards,

Dave
[Xoom General] foxmeister:
Apparently, both the Tab 10.1 and the 8.9 will launch in Europe too.

Regards,

Dave
[Xoom General] rschenck:
All excellent points...those in the US seldom realize that when such products hit Europe they have to work out an amazing number of licensing agreements..and that is just inside the EU. Add the rest of the world and things go REALLY crazy. Many services, such as Hulu, don't even bother to try.
[Xoom General] foxmeister:
Nice theory, but probably incorrect.

Apparently, non-US Xooms are not Google Experience devices.

Regard,

Dave
[Xoom General] rschenck:
OK, then I am truly flummexed. If the Samsung Tabs do come out on schedule, then hell, Europe should light the torches and gather the pitchforks for Moto after all.
[Xoom General] psinno:
That was last week. I was very ready to buy a Xoom at the start of the year. Then the slow arrival in the Uk annoyed me. Then the even slower arrival in Ireland. Then the anemic stock levels at launch even as I saw many many posts on the poor sales in the US. Then I decided screw you Moto I am getting a Transformer. Boy am I glad I did that. Plenty of hassle getting it but at least it got updated to 3.1 the same day as the rest of the planet. Moto is not a brand I leap to buy. They had a chance for only one reason being first and they have dropped the ball on that.
[Xoom General] terminal 7:
I know there are reasons for some google products only working in the us ...

But that in itself isn't reason NOT to find technologies that allow those products to work elsewhere.

Or to find agreements allowing products to work elsewhere.

I'm not all down on Google anyway, I love much of what google do - I just know only too well how big corps can get away with neglecting small pockets of customers provided the masses are catered for, in this case it still may not even be Google to blame!

Who knows? ? ...
[Xoom General] litanyww:
Perhaps Motorola are taking their "Not a Google Experience" status seriously outside the US. This means that they're allowed to tinker with the firmware - for example there's nothing to stop them from hacking in SD card support. Given noises coming from Motorola since the 3.1 update in the US, this seems plausable.

The thing with making changes is that they have to be tested, and a two month test cycle actually sounds very reasonable - if not downright cavalier.

While it would be really nice to gain early access to their test build - I'm not voiding my warrantee to run it, and anyone who does won't run it because they'll run the stock US (WiFi only of course) or a custom ROM.

If the non-US 3.1 is released with SD card support in a month or two with SD card support, then I'll be glad I didn't unlock my Xoom. If all they do is rip out functionality (ignoring language support) as they did for 3.0 then I'll be extremely disappointed.
[Xoom General] MiDiANx360:
I just read this article saying 3.1 with sd-card and all the features that where in the US update will hit Germany in July.

http://www.golem.de/1106/84022.html
[Xoom General] markdudier:
+1.

I blame this on national publishing/media conglomerates that have their firm hands on local markets. If the EU would somehow be able to regulate that away, we wouldn't be in this pickle.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
There was a tweet from @Motorola tonight about an update...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FightinTrojan:
Any free app out there that will keep the stock home screen and allow me to use the volume rocker to wake up the phone?

I know widget locker and simple home screen do the job but I was wondering if there is anything else out there.

Thanks.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
I swear I saw this somewhere but was never able to find it. I started thinking it does not exist. I'm in if it exists I want it bad.

G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. oc@1500 5107 quadrant.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] aim1126:
Cm7 has an option to enable it. I don't know of any market app that would do this though
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tackleberry:
Cm had a long pressfor an application option but I don't recall it actually waking up the screen.

G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. oc@1500 5107 quadrant.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tasar:
PLease can you help me: I few days ago i found a table of the resitors which are in the USB port, so the S2 know it was in Car Mode, Docking Mode etc.

This where do by resitors between Pin 4 and 5 in the USB port.

I know, download Mode is 301k Ohm but what was Car Mode etc?

I lost my bookmarks and doesnt found the page back. Has anyone a link for the page?

Sorry for my poor english....
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] canedha:
think you thought bout this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820275

but be aware it's for the i9000, not for the s2!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidsnax:
Hello everyone, Ive had my desire since the beginning of Feb this year, just wanted to drop in and say hello instead of just lurking and "stealing" info!

Been using this site to guide me through rooting and flashing custom roms (GV 2.5 at the moment) Keep up the good work folks, anyone reading this and using the site for the same ends as myself, stick with it. The site is top notch for finding out all about Android.

Over Android-out.

:D

** EDIT: oops, just realised Ive posted this in the Q section and not the General... sorry folks. ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
This forum lives from getting help and then helping others with these information you got. There is no "stealing". So far my opinion, based on experience. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidsnax:
True! Just meant using the info and not getting round to thanking for it! Have been trying to spread the rooting word amongst my friends though!
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] XDA_Badman:
DOWNLOAD LINK BELOW PICTURES

I have been messing around in the "UOT Kitchen" and came up with a little something, for XDA.

Please download this, and report back with any bugs. (if there are any)

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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XZMM48GA

To Install,

1: Donload this .zip

2: Copy it to your /sdcard/

3: Reboot into recovery

4: Click 'Backup and Restore' [VERY IMPORTANT]

5: Then click 'Backup'

6: Go back to recovery main menu

7: Select 'Install .zip from sdcard'

8: Then 'Choose .zip from sdcard'

9: Navigate and choose the downloaded .zip

10: You are not complete, Enjoy

To revert back before the changes go into recovery, select 'backup and restore' then 'restore' and choose the most recent backup [ie, 2011-06-04.13.54.40/]

Things i do know,

1: This theme is utturly rubbish, and does not compare to others

2: I cant get my head around XML's to save my life (yet)

3: This has probably been attempted before

I will learn to make my own fully modified theme, i just need to spend some quality time with my pc.
[LG Optimus 2x] oscarlg:
Hi guys, first of all I'm a total noob.. first android phone first time rooting, and installing a mod... I should of done more research before installing the CyanogenMod on my phone because now its all buggy and i feel it worked better before. If some one can help me get my phone back to 2.2 that would great.

-Do i fist install a stock rom from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12890619#post12890619

-I'm located in the philippines and I dont see any rom for my country all i remember is that I had v10b.

-im not sure if my phone is using ext3/or ext4 but i think its ext4 since im using cyanogenmod. do i need to set it back to ext3 first?

I backed up my phone using nvflash and nandflash.

-first thing i tried before was: wipe data/factory rest, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik cache and then hit restore. afterwards i booted my phone and it was stuck at the loading bar. so tried the same steps again but nothing so i loaded cm7 zip again my my phone booted up. how do i take this off can someone help please.

i really dont know what im doing..
[LG Optimus 2x] Kickasskev:
Follow this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1007825

it will restore your phone back to stock
[LG Optimus 2x] Stikkontakt:
after nvflashing v10b back on your phone, you can restore your backup if you like to. root and clockworkmod must be installed first though. To install clockworkmod you can also download the clockworkmod recovery img and replace recovery.img in the nvflash files. this will install cwm directly and you don't need to root your device.

You don't need to convert back to ext3. I'm not even sure if cm7 uses ext4...

The reason why you are not able to restore your backup is because of some bug in cwm with restoring boot.img I think..
[LG Optimus 2x] abeeshek:
same thing had happened with me...

not a sigle CWM bakup working,no other zip working through CWM...

i tried with smartflash as well as with NVflash,but the results were same.

then one of the XDA user from this forum adviced me to use onther usb port(preefrably backside one)

and just repeat the NVflash process and guess what !!!!

finally i have managed to get rid of CM7 !!!! and now m back on v10b !!!

try it out,it should work,cheers :)
[LG Optimus 2x] oscarlg:
thank you

Thanks for the replies guys ill give it a go right now and let you know what happen. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] oscarlg:
i followed the instructions on that page but when i get to the part where i click on nvflash a black screen like cmd pops up then disappears. i tried running as administrator but no go same thing.. am i missing something?
[LG Optimus 2x] abeeshek:
same thing had happened with me...

not a sigle CWM bakup working,no other zip working through CWM...

i tried with smartflash as well as with NVflash,but the results were same.

then one of the XDA user from this forum adviced me to use onther usb port(preefrably backside one)

and just repeat the NVflash process and guess what !!!!

finally i have managed to get rid of CM7 !!!! and now m back on v10b !!!

try it out,it should work,cheers

[CHANGE THE USB PORT AND IT WILL WORK FOR SURE]
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] K900:
I have no idea why there's no tool for that yet, so I decided to make one myself, but I need your feedback to make it good for everyone. So, my current goals are:

1) As simple as possible, all required files should be packaged with the app or downloaded dynamically

2) Cross-platform compatibility (Windows, Linux, Mac)

3) Minimal user interaction, as automated as possible

I see two solutions:

* X11-less console Linux LiveCD image to be booted in VirtualBox or on real hardware.

Pros: completely controlled environment, no drivers required, bash scripting, all libs and binaries bundled.

Cons: large image size, sometimes difficult to use, no GUI so less user friendly

* GUI Qt app

Pros: flexible language (C++), nice GUI, simple to use, allows for small size and on-the-fly downloads

Cons: have to compile and test separately on 3 platforms, different libs/binaries, Linux dependency hell, probably no Mac support because I don't have one.

So, what do you guys say? I'm open for ideas now and won't start coding until Monday.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Vigneshd:
I only joined the android world a little while ago when the moto olympus/atrix came out but isn't getting root on this as easy as

a)make sure you have a microSd card inserted

b)make sure unknown sources is enabled

c)install the gingerbreak apk, openeng the app and clicking on "root device"?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jester450:
I'm no developer and haven't a clue what it takes but this would be epic.

Windows GUI
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] K900:
Okay, I meant root+blob+CWM
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] K900:
Still think a livecd could be the best way... A GUI app can only come if you guys help me with the testing.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Vigneshd:
I don't even know what these "blob" things are yet.But if you need testers, thats what the rest of us here are for. Count me in.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] K900:
Hmm... I wonder how a plugin system could work... So, a core library that handles adb, device identification and plugin loading, plugins dynamically linked to the library (needs a stable API though) and a manifest that lists compatible devices and plugins to be used for them... Could be something like that (YAML inspired);

device:

info:

vendor: 'ASUS'

model: 'Eee Pad Transformer'

pciid:

uses:

- gingerbreak

- tf101

And libgingerbreak.so to push and run gingerbreak (a generic one) and then a device specific libtf101.so to take care of blob flashing action.

P.S. It's night here and I'm tired as hell. Sorry if I wrote some nonsense... If anyone is interested in making it big, PM me here or on github.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ttav:
A livecd would probably be too complicated for people who can`t follow the rooting guide.What you need is a program to download on to computer.....in large red letters...connect Transformer to pc.....click obvious button.....rooted:)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] K900:
Yeah, that's just the thing. What's good about a livecd is that you are 100% sure it works everywhere, cause nothing changes. But if you make it native, you need drivers on Windows, udev rules or root privileges on Linux and a Mac to make it run on a Mac...
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] ttav:
To make it simple isn`t going to be easy:) I`ll say it again best of luck.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] oka1:
Yup essentially like one-click rooting app for the Galaxy phones.

It is ***UHHH... get the software and d/l on the computer.....ummm.... click to open

Click the flashing neon sign that SAYS: "click here dummy !!" ...........you are rooted...........:p
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] midimaker:
Anything you coud put together would be an absolute god send. I managed to root my X10 okay, and my other half's Vega..... but the guides for the transforemer may as well be in mandarin for all I understand them. I really need a click here, install this, type that, press this, turn round three times and throw salt over your shoulder sort of guide..... or any of your lovely proposed one click solutions :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] cosine83:
The best I have is a pair of batch files that go through the pre and post root process that I've modded with directions. This assumes you have ADB setup from the Android SDK install and have the ADB drivers installed and working. You need to have USB Debugging enabled via Settings > Applications > Development. If you do not, get the Android SDK and read up on how to setup ADB. There's tons of posts on XDA about how to do just that.

Download tf101-root.zip here

md5: 57f22712625fe75f685499b60b189aa8

Firstly, run root-prep.bat from where ever you extracted tf1010-root.zip (preferably in your platform tools folder for your Android SDK install).

This is the batch file content of the root-prep.bat:

adb push gingerbreakBB /data/local/
adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/gingerbreakBB
adb push CWM_BLOB_V5 /data/local/
@echo off
echo Now do "adb shell" from another command window. In the shell, do "/data/local/gingerbreakBB" without quotes. DO NOT CLOSE THAT COMMAND WINDOW, EXIT THE SHELL, OR REBOOT AFTER GINGERBREAK IS DONE! THE ROOTING PROCESS MAY WIPE YOUR SD CARD SO BACK IT UP BEFOREHAND!
pause

Go to your Android SDK folder in explorer and (if you're on Vista/7) shift+right-click the platform tools folder and click "open command window here" for a new command window already set to that folder. XP users will have to do it manually or download the PowerToy from this page. Download the "Open Command Window Here" tool and it works exactly the same as on Vista/7. GINGERBREAK MAY OR MAY NOT WIPE YOUR SD CARD SO BACK IT UP BEFORE DOING IT JUST IN CASE!

Rooting process:

C:\aSDK\platform-tools>adb shell
$/data/local/gingerbreakBB
<you'll see all the gingerbreak stuff here>
#

DO NOT CLOSE THIS COMMAND WINDOW AND DO NOT EXIT THE SHELL WHEN IT'S DONE!

If you don't get the # symbol in the shell after running gingerbreak, you'll have to run the root-fail-fix.bat then do the above again after the reboot.

This is the batch file content of the root-fail-fix.bat:

adb shell rm /data/local/tmp/boomsh
adb shell rm /data/local/tmp/sh
adb reboot

If you get the # symbol after gingerbreak is done, run post-root.bat from the same command window as you did root-prep.bat or a new command window. After the reboot you should be fully rooted!

This is the batch file content of the post-root.bat:

adb remount
adb shell dd if=/data/local/CWM_BLOB_V5 of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
adb push su /system/xbin
adb push busybox /system/xbin
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/xbin/su
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/xbin/busybox
adb push Superuser.apk /system/app/
adb reboot

You can do the commands manually just to make sure everything works properly (encouraged) or just run the batch files from a command window if you're lazy.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] greeny2010:
That would be a godsend :D