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[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
Hmmm, so how much will the Within be full price? Also can you share what your deciding factors were?
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Evo 3d - release date/dual core cpu.

Within - super amoled PLUS. Also dualcore and I like touchwiz more than sense. :p

I honestly have no idea what the price would be, but I'm guessing somewhere between $200-$250 w/ upgrade.
[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
Hmm, ok. Well I'm eligible for an upgrade... I'm debating if I should get the EVO 3D, and play around with it while i'm still under the 30 return policy, should the SGS2 be released the end of July.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
If you go by that, make sure it's coming out in 30 days. :p
[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
Haha, yea that's the plan, if the rumor of July 24th for the SGS2 holds true then i'll be good to go. I'm sure we'll hear something soon, hopefully.
[Epic 4G General] Blankrubber:
Evo3D review on Engadget didn't make it sound like it was anything special... ESPECIALLY if you're not into the 3D feature, which they even labeled as a gimmick (at least for now).
[Epic 4G General] ausch30:
I've read/watched pretty much all the reviews out there so far. This is a good compilation of the reviews for the 3D

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ndup-one-mans-trash-is-another-mans-treasure/

Opinions are across the board, from Gizmodo and Engadget trashing it to CNet and laptopmag giving it high marks. Some were more middle of the road like Roger Cheng for All Thing Digital and the WSG

http://allthingsd.com/20110615/the-evo-3d-more-than-meets-the-crossed-eye/

Android Central did an initial review on it and he seemed very high on the phone.

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-evo-3d-initial-review

The only review that really matters is yours and how you feel about your device. I'm still getting it and I'm sure I'll love it. That's the wonderful thing about Android, some call it fragmentation, I call it personal choice.
[Epic 4G General] newbieandroid:
I'm upgrading from the Epic to an Evo 3D because of hardware. The benchmarks that we currently have can't utilize the dual core snapdragon correctly but when Linpack is ran it scores higher than the Galaxy S 2, which has the same hardware as the Sprint version supposedly called "Within".

Also the Adreno 220 gets 60FPS in Neocore while the Galaxy S 2 gets 59.2(But I believe they are both limited to 60FPS) my Epic gets 63.2 so I'm sure that both get higher but the Evo 3D has a higher resolution of 960x540 gets pushed more than the galaxy S one.

The 3rd thing I have problems with is GPS! I have had problems with Samsung's GPS since I had a Samsung Moment and still issues with the Epic and the last thing is the flimsy plastic covers that samsung uses drive me crazy. I hear a weird squeak from the sides of the Epic when I hold it.

One thing I will miss is the AMOLED screen, I can see perfectly when sun hits the screen. I don't have to cover the phone with my hand or anything.
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
I can live without a KB if and when the Within comes out on Sprint. What I CAN'T live without is the SAMOLED+ screen. I have the Epic and my wife has the Evo, and with my phone, I can see perfectly in the sun without having to cover, while on hers I have to find or make a shade just to see her screen. When people see my phone, they are impressed by the screen itself. I loaded up a couple of videos on my phone that were ripped from either BlueRay or HD-DVD and they are amazed by how well the vids look on my Epic, and I am pretty confident they will look even better on the SAMOLED+. To me, Samsung just seems to be ahead of the curve over HTC just a little bit more and with the Evo 3D maybe not being as good as the Within, maybe more devs will buy the Within and we will have more support for it in the future.
[Epic 4G General] kalel_293:
same here...i was 99% sure i was goibg for the evo 3d...but after that review i just dont know...cant upgrade till nov anyway, so i have time to choose...i do love the epic's screen tho compared to the evo...i guess i have to see in person....what i dont like is that touchpad on that gsII...then again sprint's version might not have that...i really dont care for the 3d tho...
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Don't delude yourself into thinking that the snapdragon is quicker than Exynos. Its not.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The WiThin will have 4g yes..sprint is not going to release a top end phone without 4G..heck even that motorola phone will have 4G..Samsung is the one thats supplying equipment for 4g to sprint for 4g towers...so why would they not include it?

um..you do know that Linpack does not measure processor speed right? it only measures optimizations of the Java engine. Here is what the creators of Linpack for Android have to say:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.greenecomputing.linpack&feature=search_result

Also linpack only measures floating point..which on snapdragons is done by the VFP..as long as the VFP is doing the floating point calculations its not an accurate benchmark to begin with.

umm..They are both hitting frame cap..if they both hit framecap resolution is irrelevant because if sgs2 was higher it might also be 60fps as again it caps at 60fps regardless...also why does NeoCore matter..Neocore measures OpenGL-ES 1.1, last I checked we want OpenGL ES 2!!!

IF you look at Smartbench 2011 which supports dual cores and runs them both at equal resolutions..SGS2 GPU wins.

SGS2 has working GPS...also didnt the GPS not working with the original SGS phones was related to the skyhook incident?
[Epic 4G General] ykman1:
Maybe I'm wrong but ain't the sgs2 a at&t phone, I haven't even heard of it coming to sprint? If it is then there's ur answer but I could be wrong...
[Epic 4G General] ausch30:
Just as with the original Galaxy S, I think everyone is thinking there will be a version released on all US carriers. As of now though, there hasn't been any official word. It was around this time last year they announced the Epic 4G so I would think there would be an announcement fairly soon.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-supposed-carrier-specific-names-leak-out_id18847

I believe AT&T already announced the Attain.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Its so far on no carrier in the USA, the international version just works on AT&T 3g bands hence it works on AT&T..it is expected to come soon to the USA based on previous SGS release dates and there was a while ago where there was a trademark filing for a few names like "Samsung Within" and "Samsung Function" etc...then came along a case manufacturer and actually labeled the "Samsung Within" with Sprint...put the 2 and 2 together..there is going to be a Samsung Within on Sprint and a SGS2 on every carrier EXCEPT T-mobile..T-mobile will be getting the Hercules which is an SGS2 with 4.5" screen instead of 4.3"
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] valdigre:
Well, I did not have this problem on KE1.

Basically, bluetooth/wired headsets work fine, when you are making a regular phone call.

The problem starts, when you try to use them through Skype - microphone does not work on them. Yep, neither wired's headset nor bluetooth microphone work when making Skype calls, phone's microphone is used by default in those cases.

Ironically, when using them I have to hold the phone near my face so that anyone can hear me...

Anyone else having this problem?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] valdigre:
Wow, so I am the only one experiencing this or am I the only one using Skype with headsets? :/
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] valdigre:
Still have this problem on litghtening Rom 1.5...

Am I the only one wanting to use bluetooth/wired headset along with Skype and other non telephone apps???:confused:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Hi,

Thanks to thiagodark I've finally rooted my phone (Got it in Feb) :)

Now for step 2 ... Flashing Roms

Can some one suggest where I start? I see that the [ROM] [Nightly] CyanogenMod 7 (alpha) is pretty popular ... would that be a recommended start?

Two things I look to after flashing a rom would be a) install BLN (so, the rom has to have support for that) and b) should have the power widget in the notification (where I can pull down notification and toggle wifi, sound, bluetooth or whatever). Would also prefer if the a 2.3.4 Rom.

Two other things I'd like to know and would really appreciate help with are:

a) Can I flash a rom and then install any kernel ... are they all compatible?

b) I did a Google Search and found these steps to Flash a Rom:

My question is .... Is step 7 what is called a Nandroid? And do I need to do this every time or do I just need to do it when I think that the current setup is good enough to back up? ... yes, I will do it the first time and then only when I think I like a Rom, but want to try another and may revert.

Thanks a ton :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
First you will want to do is download ROM manager onto your phone, then flash the latest Recovery from within it.

Then you should do a Nandroid (this is the backup option in recovery... do this while everything is stock) this backsup your whole phone (apart from SD card) so if you screw something up you can restore it! It is real useful, you can nandroid as much as you like, all it is is an image of your phone.

If you are just starting out i would avoid the CM nightlies and find the stable thread which is 7.0.3. That coupled with Netarchys latest kernel (includes BLN) really works wonders.

As far as the actuall flashing, all you need to do is copy both zip files onto your sd card, reboot into the recovery (you can do that from within the ROM manager).

Once in the Recovery, wipe data,cache and dalvik, then select flash from zip and choose the rom.

Wipre cache and dalvik again and then flash the kernel and restart the phone.

Thats it you should be good to go. If you ever get any Force Closes restart into recovery again and run the Fix permissions :)

Happy flashing

Edit

Compatibility wise, CM 7.0.3 is still android 2.3.3 (will be updated to 2.3.4 with cm7.1) so you need a 2.3.3 kernel. You also need to know if your phone is NS3G or NS4G, they are not compatible
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Thanks bringonblink ... guess I'm starting to get an understanding now.

Is this Rom Manager available on the market? ... I'll check

Since rooting, I've used my phone for a day, so I presume you suggest that I wipe data and then do the nandroid in step 7 above, then install the Rom manager and go from there?

I understand your suggestion of the stable CM7. Since there is just one link for the download, no confusions :D

The Netarchy though is a different story ... :(

What is the CFS and BFS build stuff.

I'm currently using a Nexus S i9020 with 2.3.4.

So, I use the CM7 + which version of Netarchy?

Thanks once again :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
Rom Mangager is in the market yes.

No before you wipe , flash, crack, hack ANYTHING else again do a bone stock Nandroid backup and save it on your pc or something. This is because RIGHT NOW your phone is in a working state. THEN wipe cache ,dalvik and data and flash Rom.

7.0.3 is really nice, i had been keepign upwith the nightlies but for me 7.0.3 is the sweet spot... will flash to 7.1 stable when its out though xD.

CFS and BFS are different types of shedulers that run the phone (there is a proper explanation in netarchys thread on the first post i think)

You will want to get CFS as it is mroe stable and generally more user friendly lol.

You'll want CM7.0.3 + CFS Universal 2.3.3 1.3.4
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Hey bringonblink ... thank you for your reply :)

I installed Rom Manager as suggested and then flashed the latest Recovery from within it. Booted into Recovery and did a backup. I then went rebooted, went to my internal storage and found the backup in a clockworkmod folder.

I then went to Rom Manager again and clicked on "Install Rom from SD card". I chose update-cm-7.0.3-NS-signed.zip, ticked Backup, Wipe Data and cache and Wipe Dalvik Cache then pressed ok to reboot.

I then got the big triangle with the ! and droid ... waited, nothing happened so I pressed power and volume up. ... this takes me to the regular stock recovery.

Why not to CWM recovery? Did I do something wrong?

Thanks for any help :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
Hmm flash the recovery again, but from rom manager choose reboot to recovery, don't actually update in rom manager
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
I guess that was the key ... when I flashed recovery again, and then chose to install the rom with all those options ticked, it worked!!!!

Am now using a custom rom ... THANK YOU!!!

Now to the Netarchy kernel ... again ... through CWM recovery I presume.

PS: I never expected a reply so soon ... thought you might be sleeping ... thanks again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
Thats alright was on my way to work , so on the phone with xda app xD.

Yup same deal again for kernel :p
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Thanks pal ... really appreciate it!

Installed the kernel & google addons too!

All ok now except ... don't have Gmail :( why is that and how do I get Gmail?

Thanks again!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt2053:
Market :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
Ayeeeeeeeee
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
For some strange reason, when I go to the market from my PC, I see Gmail, but when I try to install, I get the message:

This item cannot be installed in your device's country!

If I go through the market on my phone, I just cannot find gmail although there is a lot of other apps that include the word gmail.

incidentally ... after flashing CM7, anything I try installing through my PC browser gives the same result as above... :(

By the way ... any reason why gmail is not included with the rom and with the google addons?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt2053:
Gmail is in the usual Google Apps package. Maybe try flashing it again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
gmail is not available yet in some countries. what you can do is install marketenabler and fake your provider and install gmail.

on cm7, the google apps are not included as they are propriety apps, they are not open source ( if u understand what i mean)

a few years ago, google tried to sue cyanogen for distributing the google apps through cyanogenmod. they then reached an agreement that cyanogenmod could exist provided no gapps were included within.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Hey, thanks for that explanation ... let me check the work around :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Hey! am back!

Rather than go through the the trouble of installing market enabler, I just went about testing a couple of other Roms ... since I also wanted to know in what way other roms were different.

I tried Liquid and Infinity ... both were nice and both had gmail, so was happier with them! Wonder why Google went after the cyanogen guys, but the others include those apps :confused:

Anyway ... am now downloading Zulu.

After having installed custom roms such as Cyanogen-mod, Liquid and Infinity, I've realized that there are some must haves ...

a) Gmail & Talk (working over 3G)

b) Sip over 3G

c) Power Controls in notification (sexy as in Liquid)

d) screen lock as in Cyanogen (the modded rotary type with an option to add a 3rd party app)

e) BLN support (have not yet got used to the small lights turning on as in BLN but, guess I'll learn).

Would some one know of a Rom that caters to the above ... I'm experimenting with each, but if someone can help, I'd be able to settle in faster :)

Cheers!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
They went after Cyanogen because it is the biggest ;) Most ROMS are based off of it too.

BLN is needed in the kernel, not ROM, Netarchys support this.

I think you will like NScollab, runs off of CM7 with some nice tweaks, also includes netarchys kernel as default.

Oh and it already has all gapps included , including gmail
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
What a coincidence ... was just downloading NScollab ... 28% done :D

Thanks!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
bringonblink ... am liking this NScollab rom :)

Edit: Never mind ... googled and found ... no use to me :)

Thanks ... and cheers!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylejjjjj:
ok so i dont know much about this stuff but i rooted my phone with the one click app i have clockworks with no nandroid backup and i keep getting a install abort

i wiped before and have also tryed different roms i think i may have clicked upday at one point if that means anything i hope its not bricked :confused: so what do i do?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianoob:
You can access abd? (from phone off, hold vol up and end keys...) What is the phone doing?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylejjjjj:
it dose enter bootloader and also clockworks recovery but i cant flash any roms i really dont know what up with adb i tried to set it up on windows 7 and ubuntu but i keep getting "device not found"

if posible i would like to change my recovery to something else because i keep hearing bad things about it

also if it helps i have hboot 1.47.0000
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianoob:
Have you tried pushing a ROM to your SD card and flashing it from recovery?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylejjjjj:
well i have put a new rom on my sd card by mounting it in recovery if by pushed you mean with adb shell and the sdk then no
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianoob:
So you're checking your 5sum, doing a full wipe, flashing the ROM, gapps if needed, rebooting... What happens?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylejjjjj:
it just sits at the first splash screen with the skateboard guys
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianoob:
Hmmm, how long did you let it go? Some ROMs take up to 10min on that screen.

I've had that happen with bad downloads or incomplete ROMs. But you've tried different ROMs with the same effect :?

Good news, it isn't bricked!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylejjjjj:
well that good that its not bricked but i tried diffrent roms and they are all the same and it only sits on that screen when ii restart it in recovery it says install aborted i also have no way of booting so i cant turn on debugging to i dont think i can use adb but fastboot still works but can i fix this with fast boot?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coasterfanryan:
I'm having this same problem as well... My phone just sits on the skateboard screen. It's not rooted, and I tried putting a ROM on the SD card, but it does not work.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianoob:
I have never used fastboot (and actually had to look it up) but if you know what you're doing, it should work :confused:
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianoob:
Your phone needs to be rooted before you can flash a custom ROM.
[Desire General] andQlimax:
The update seems still confirmed for the Q2 (April, May, June)

So now we are on june..Why don't bet on the release DAY? :D
[Desire General] vnvman:
UMAD!1!1

:D
[Desire General] Lothaen:
last weekend of june is my guess - 26th

if I remember the Froyo it was on a sunday that it started flooding out, and that's probably the last point of Q2 that they have left.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
FroYo for the Desire came out in August last year as I was in the US when it was released so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see 2.3 until then
[Desire General] Lothaen:
when did Froyo come out for nexus one though in comparison? :)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Google says June 2010 but can't find an exact date. Baring in mind the Nexus One/Desire were flagship devices back then it was obvious they'd get the update first. This time the delay might be longer so I reckon Q3 2011
[Desire General] Pl4ub:
Desire got 2.2 same time as EVO 4G. Evo just got 2.3 -> Desire 10th...
[Desire General] mortenmhp:
Froyo was also announced at i/o 2010 in may and released for n1 a few weeks later whereas gb was released back in december.
[Desire General] reaper7881:
Watch i bet it will come out in septembrr lol
[Desire General] mug318ca:
Unbranded Desires will, most likely, get the update before the end of June. Branded Desires won't probably get the update until 2-3 months later. For the 2.2 update, while most phones got the update by August 2010, my Telstra phone didn't get it until November 2010.
[Desire General] butcher666:
Hi guys !

Only one question for now :

My Desire has been rooted and last clockwork recovery installed but when gingerbread ota update will be received, will my phone accept the update even if it is rooted ?

Can't it be "bricked" after that ?

Thanx a lot for sharing your knowledge !
[Desire General] Thermaltake868:
thumb up for pool heh I say somewhere around 30.6
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Don't install any ota when rooted as a general rule
[Desire General] michaelm_007:
I think HTC released Gingerbread in Q3. It is june and HTC can not hear anything from him :confused:
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Why lot of people are voting for 30 june? Do you mean htc will not release it for this month or that they will wait the last day of the Q2 as they promised? :D
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I think that's what they are getting at.

I went for the last sunday for similar thoughts
[Desire General] andQlimax:
It seems that day after day, someone loses his bet :D
[Desire General] DonManInBlack:
An on July 1st we've all lost our bet ;-)
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Be positive, let's hope official gingerbread will come in June! :D
[Desire General] andreipaval:
June for sure... 2012
[Desire General] 08r3308:
Lol 2012 true
[Desire General] ironjon:
Yes perhaps 2012... or 2013.
[Desire General] koelspy:
There is no "never" option in this poll: http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/255895-htc-will-announce-2-3-update-soon.html#post2818817
[Desire General] Chrusb:
Haha, will be released in 2012 i think ;o
[Desire General] Sillysod:
No, literally, NEVER - read the link in the previous post. It is never going to be released. :mad:

Bye HTC, hello Samsung GS2
[Desire General] HtcDesire2:
29th June, Lolz a wild guess :P
[Desire General] Beso:
I am going to be new Samsung GS 2 owner too :)
[Desire General] tickmaster:
Day after doomsday
[Desire General] Lothaen:
the desire is far from dead just because HTC won't update it to Gingerbread.

there's so many roms here and i'm sure they'll keep going for awhile yet!

I personally think it's silly to jump ship from the desire at the moment unless you can get a free upgrade of course...
[Desire General] escort82:
All wrong,no update for desire..htc confirmed few minutes agooo
[Desire General] PlayPetepp:
I won't throw away my desire as it's a brilliant phone (thanks to xda), but I won't be buying any new models from htc. Only and maybe if they offer me one for exchange...
[Desire General] pavel54:
huh, this poll not expecting never option, now this is almost certain for me:(
[Desire General] PlayPetepp:
epic :D

10char
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Yeah..No one players will win, so the dealer (me) will win all the bets! :D
[Desire General] reaper7881:
Hahah they said we're not getting It

http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2078862/htc-desire-won-t-gingerbread-upgrade

Then 1 day after they say we are

http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2079205/htc-caves-gingerbread-demand
[EVO 4G General] Janker5050:
Post your results after flashing the new radios from the gingerbread update ..good or bad.......ups and downs.........get the point...
[EVO 4G General] AyoJake:
wait there was new radios?

didnt think there were...
[EVO 4G General] Janker5050:
yep...new radio,wimax,pri, and nv........check out caulk's raidio thread in development, there is a couple other threads with the radios also....
[EVO 4G General] JDM Civic EG8:
New radios were definitely good for me. Stronger signal and finally 4G in my house.

Sent from My Synergy Powered EVO
[EVO 4G General] chunkyhao:
radio version

is this for 2.15.00.05.02?