yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Well, as I mentioned before, got one of them stupid signal booster stickers,and then just have look how you can adjust it so it stays between pin and cover.then put cover back on. Probably easiest way would be to stoke it to the back cover, and then scratch places which will overlap pins, so they are conductive.
[HTC Sensation] aydahm:
regarding the cover photo, there is also another difference between the two covers, reviewed one has two golden dots above the bottom contacts, while the one with three contacts has four golden dots.
[HTC Sensation] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the link. You'll have to use Google Translate.

http://www.nordichardware.se/testla...tungviktare-med-hoeg-upploesning.html?start=8
[HTC Sensation] joshua3m:
yeah this same issue,

when they reported that signal is dropping down when you holding phone on hand i didn't really care because who will use it like that...

couple times i was playing some games in landscape mode and notice that i'm loosing completely wifi signal... try even seat in front of my AP and change the antenna direction... this same issue...

as the cover isn't so expensive i think that HTC should send the replacement with better design to everyone who bought the phone.
[HTC Sensation] aydahm:
I think the difference between 3 contact (antenna) and 2 contact one is that the 1st is Sensation 4G and the 2nd is just Sensation..?
[HTC Sensation] k87:
Another video on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNGrO94lM4
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
When you try to stream a video on your sensation on landscape mode I'm going from full signal to none,

Yes this is an issue, when you have 2 bars on WiFi, imagine the worse
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
they are the exact same phone, just tmobile tacked on their 4G moniker for marketing
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
Us version from tmobile has the same issue ... No improvement!

Very very bad, to drop 3-4 bars when you watch YouTube landscape mode...

I will return the phone soon!
[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
HTC must provide replacement back covers that fix this issue. Just like apple did with the bumpers..
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Not sure whether to keep the Sensation or go back to my DHD :(
[HTC Sensation] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I agree with HTC on this one. I personally never hold my HD2 to cover those areas everyone is complaining about. So I doubt I would with the Sensation in a way that would be an issue.

All devices have signal issues when held a certain way. They have to put the antennas somewhere.

Every device I've had I've seen a "death grip" thread. :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] ABC_Universal:
An email reply to a HK mobile site inquiry:

http://android.echoor.com/shownew.php?sel=2&tid=1130
[HTC Sensation] Rod3:
I am pretty sure that the US TMO version has support for HSPA+ (what they are calling 4G) and the EU version does not which explains the variances in the back cover. TMO has to incorporate a "4G" radio.
[HTC Sensation] sausje85:
This "Death Grip" is kinda an issue when you turn the phone sideways to type (thats how i type faster then portrait mode).

By holding it in that way, you basically have your hands in the correct position to block the signal.
[HTC Sensation] Jazd71:
it seems that most new smartphones that use this method of antenna drop some level of signal I can cause it on my htc incredible s , nokia, Samsung,so i try not to get over excifed about it. Its the nature of physics and electronics with this set up, i dont think this will be the last case of death grip. Anyone dropped a call due to it?
[HTC Sensation] xnifex:
the EU version does HSPA+ too

Internet

3G:

Up to 14.4 Mbps download speed

Up to 5.76 Mbps upload speed

http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
[HTC Sensation] MaBlo:
The Legend have this problem as well, you loose wifi connection when holding it in landscape mode. The Desire S have it also, I guess it's because of the unibody design.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Desire HD Also suffers from this somewhat, on a few occasions lost it completely, otherwise down to 1 bar.
[HTC Sensation] ABC_Universal:
Losing some signal is much less an issue than losing the entire signal, from full strength to nothing. And it may even crash the modem as seen in a video.
[HTC Sensation] EniHS:
I confirm it! Death grip is real and it prevents me for using this phone sideways!

Seriously, people, when holding phone vertical with one hand, everything is ok, Wi-fi strength is full! When I turn phone horizontal (to browse internet more comfortably or to write something faster with two hands) the signal drops in 1-2! seconds from full to zero and breaks the connection with hotspot! THIS IS NOT little problem, this is full signal! The problem is touching upper back of the phone, when holding horizontal with two hands it is impossible to not touch it :(

I'm resigned and very angry...
[HTC Sensation] andbakk:
I have tried to replicate the "death grip" in every way, but I never lose my connection. It goes down a bar or two, but never more than that.

In the advansed wifi settings you can turn on a "wifi booster" for better signals. Have any of you tried that?
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Good idea. I presume increased battery use. Can you see any difference?
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
slight difference :) but not much :|
[HTC Sensation] pogimodo:
First thing I tried was advanced Wi-Fi, set Wi-Fi sleep policy to Never and ticked Best Wifi Performance. The wifi still disconnects very frequently, especially in landscape mode. I have now returned the phone to HTC as they say can "repair" it. I don't quite see how they can do that but I live in hope.
[HTC Sensation] aydahm:
I'd agree with this post; just look at the reviews of the 3G and 4G versions from the same site:

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-review-23153699/

http://www.slashgear.com/t-mobile-sensation-4g-review-03156640/

The 3rd antenna only exists in the 4G version.

Another 3G / 4G review reveals the same thing:

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-Sensation-Review_id2753

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-Sensation-4G-Review_id2756
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
Here is my video with this issue

youtube.com/watch?v=ptC0pZVIuCE

I will return the phone ...
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Me to I'm affected. Decided on the evo 3d

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with my finger using telepathy
[HTC Sensation] DuoM:
Look at the second GSMArena video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNGrO94lM4

The signal drops all the way down to zero just by touching the two ends. You don't have to cover the back for this to happen. This basically means that you can't use the phone in landscape mode.

This is because HTC made the same stupid mistake that Apple made last year and put the antennas on the outside of the phone.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Just tried it. Sensation is on sale on ebay.

Going for the evo 3d

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with my finger using telepathy
[HTC Sensation] t0ny0:
I just tested with my G2x.

When I put the phone the same way they were in the video - I lost wifi and cell signal (not sure about the bluetooth, as I do not use it.).

According to the video - when they put the phone in their hand - the bluetooth aint working, but the cell signal is not affected. Which is good (not that i can imagine anyone talking on the phone like that... Id probably laugh my butt off if I see someone talking like that).

The other thing - same thing used to happen with my old mytouch 4g - so I think that it will happen to every phone. Or at least to all of the phones I had. I had a lot of phones. I need to stop buying phones every month. But that way off topic. Sorry. I guess I need a fix for my phone addiction.
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
My Vibrant loses nearly all wifi signal if I wrap my hand around the top. Agree it's likely nearly any phone will lose a lot of signal if you hold it a certain way. The key question is not can it be made to fail, but whether there's a real problem in normal use. It's good that it's been identified, but I think each user will need to test it and see for themselves if it's a problem for the way they use the phone.
[HTC Sensation] k87:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxctvyhl0U

What it we cut a piece of foil and leave it in? Can anybody try this with their sensation?
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Tried it last night. Made it worse

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with my finger using telepathy
[HTC Sensation] sorcerika:
As requested:

http://yfrog.com/kf5cqj

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNxMRV53zN8

I dunno this thing anymore. More and More confusing.

While recoding, wifi signal heavly dropped, I don't know why.

seems not caused by 'deathgrip' though...
[HTC Sensation] Robboftw:
I got my UK handset today and I cannot replicate this issue to the extent of some of these videos. I have to smother the entire phone for it to drop signal while being 20+m away from the router.

Mobile signal is barely affected either.
[HTC Sensation] EnhancerFIN:
I also tested the phone in local shop, and although it had alarm cables all over the back cover, covering the front+back on top-part of the phone caused the wifi bars to go from 4 to 2, and it didn´t affect wifi speed in any way.

So talking about death grip is nonsense, imo.
[HTC Sensation] raj2022:
I'm fairly sure that all XDA users know that the '4G' is only 14Mbps HSPA+ which has been around for a while and is indeed active here in the UK. In fact the specs for the EU and US Sensation both state the same speeds for data. Also the the EU version has support for AWS frequencies so the antennas must be the same in terms of cellular service.

Add into that the general practice of putting cellular antennas at the base of the phone to reduce SAR scores (further from the brain) and this extra contact is near the top of the phone, it seems unlikely that the extra contact is for '4G'.

I can't say what it is for, except theories about NFC, Inductive charging or perhaps a second wifi antenna for 5ghz wireless n? Who knows?
[HTC Sensation] giorgisp:
That seems reasonable... Anyways, I'll try that fix with the foil when I get mine. Maybe stick the foil in the back cover and put it on so you kinda use the foil as an antenna on the inside of the phone?
[HTC Sensation] Cogiflux:
At office, where I previously wasn't able to use the wifi connection because of the death-grip issue (the network appeared at full bar but was just disconnecting 2-3 seconds after typing or moving or any other interaction with the phone), the problem was definitely solved by checking the Settings->Wireless&Networks->WiFi-Settings->Menù Button->Advanced->Best-WiFi-Performance checkbox.

Thanks to the one who posted that :)
[HTC Sensation] samnada:
Since some phones show the wifi dropped connection problem readily, and others get no speed reduction even with hands wrapped around the phone, is it possible that there's an issue with the contacts on the back cover? I've been skeptical about this design from the beginning since it seems so precarious in terms of insuring solid connectivity. There's so much variability in spring contacts it's a potentially unreliable design for antenna connections. A similar design weakness is the cause for a lot of the GPS variability on the Galaxy S phones.

I don't have the phone so can't do any experimentation, but perhaps some adjustment to the copper contacts could help.

Another thought is the specific wifi protocol, frequencies, or channels being used. Interference from hands may be more or less depending on b/g/n, 2.4 or 5Ghz, or specific channel.
[HTC Sensation] bcpk:
My phone's default wifi sleep policy was Never. Not sure how advisable that is.
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
With the foil inside? Htc should provide that foil for a $600 phone!

But still, useless, didn't work out....only with the foil out
[HTC Sensation] k87:
More tests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNxMRV53zN8
[HTC Sensation] sorcerika:
Hey that's my vid lol

EDIT: sorry for off-topic
[HTC Sensation] caedanne:
Every phone did you cover antenna did that, now depends how good is the phone to start blaming... Htc is htc and the others are just anothers ;)

My Hd2, my hd blackstone and my htc touch elf... does the same...

Try to cover your eyes from diferent ways... lol
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Could someone please try this. death gripped my antenna until I had no network signal. 0 bars

Made a cal with zero bars to the 02 pay and go top up line and to my other phone. Cal went through fine with 0 bars showing for network signal while deathgripped.

I can still make a clear cal while death gripping my network signal to zero bars.

Anyone else confirm this
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Yes mate. Clear calls with no bars. Was the same with my Desire. I like that HTC chosen clear calls or no signal at all, instead of calls with some signal but really crappy quality. And I think we had more than enough talk about death grip, if its causing major problems to you, get rid of the phone or stop trying to strangle it to death.
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
Lol death grip isn't an issue. My problem was network signal showing zero bars at times when I just held it naturally. But now I know it still takes calls and receive on.zero bars.

Seems satisfactory and might just keep it now :)

Wifi deathgrip doesn't bother me too much
[HTC Sensation] McT1980:
No issues with the "Death Grip" here either.. Cmon stop squizing your phones, it's not a tit!
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
very much wish it was lol joking, no i conducted sum tests today, with 0-1 brs i could still send emails and and texts with 0 bar showing, so i thought, its showing a very minute signal maybe, but its not totally losing it with an X next to the signal. so shouldnt be an issue
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Agreed! There are way better and more pleasurable things to squeeze.
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
wifi doesn't bother you, how come? i expect a fully working phone for those money :)
[HTC Sensation] xl VipeR lx:
well it does bother me, but from the way i have always held it to browse the net it doesnt afffect me as much!
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
i tested the wifi, from full signal i went down to no network connection !
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
if i was left handed i was lucky with sensation, but i'm right handed and i'm holding my phone on left hand typing with the right one .... :(
[HTC Sensation] dantes1:
Here is my test again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2UKRE2_FSw
[HTC Sensation] alireza_simkesh:
pathetic...
[HTC Sensation] :
Why would anyone cup their phone like that? It makes it uncomfortable to type and can lead to the phone overheating. I still want to see someone using the phone properly. No offense to anyone, but in the videos I've seen so far, the testers appear to be going out of their way to completely cover the affected areas.
[HTC Sensation] alexsql:
I have the same problem on HD2

I have tried a death grip on my HD2 with metal mash gloves on my hands, and not only did the signal totally disappear, but the touch screen stopped working.

:eek: Damn you HTC!!!!!
[HTC Sensation] abo3bdo:
It happened with my HTC desire with B/G router but when using my net book as a router B/G/N it is complete so may be it is the router mode I am going to have the sensation and I will give it a test.
[HTC Sensation] np1:
Does anyone know if HTC Sensation Hard Shell HC C620 makes a difference?
[General Questions and Answers] davix95:
Hi there.

This is my first post here, I'd like your help on a problem about my LG OPTIMUS ONE P500. First of all, I have to say that I'm italian, and it is a Vodafone brand P500.

I got about two weeks ago the famous error about the unmounted SD card, so I read in this forum that the new fw could fix this problem: upgrade, then.

1. it was impossible to update with LG Suite & co., 'cause of the brand;

2. it's impossible to update with softwares like "z4root" or "GingerBreak", 'cause those downloads need an SD card.

3. I tried with SuperOneClick (1.9.1.0) and it didn't work;

4. KDZ didn't do anything at all;

5. I searched for other posts in the whole forum but I found nothing that could help me, so I decided to ask for help directly here.

Thanks for the time you'll spend helping me :)

Davix95 :confused:

P.S: I think this is the right section, otherwise feel free to move this post anywhere ;)
[General Questions and Answers] davix95:
No solutions? Please help me :\
[General Questions and Answers] strongiukas:
it can't be so. Try to find post by phone model (LG p500 or optimus one) there are a lot of information. I think you didn't search enough
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fekish:
Hello

I am using ezPdf however there are some things that i am wondering if other people are handling them better....

When reading in landscape is it possible to have two pages side by side?

Also is there a setting fir the program to load all the pages at beginning in order not to wait at some points fir pages to load?

The other issue is with a specific pdf. It is longer that the nook and i can only turn pages using volume buttons. Anyine else having this issue?

Thanks so much for your time!
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace7196:
Yeah, I love ezpdf for books and journal articles, but some things I wish they would fix (I suggest emailing them with your concerns).

If it's longer, either volume or tap the bottom right of the screen where the arrow is.

Can't do 2 pages side by side. Not sure any pdf reader will do that (I've tried a lot).

As far as loading pages goes, there's some adaptive way they load them. You cannot load all at once due to buffering and overall system slowness would ensue, but I think it loads the best out of any of them :)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fekish:
Ok thanks...

A bit dissapointing that we cannot see side by side pages
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gin1212:
My biggest gripe with Ezpdf reader is the fact that you can't browse for your files and that it won't browse past the sd card. Really annoying that I have 3-4gbs of books on EMMC/Media and it can't find them... Yet Adobe Reader can...
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EverythingNook:
same here, thats why i dont use ezpdf.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMathMan:
Hi,

I uninstalled TW4 from my phone and put GO Launcher into system. It was playing up today so I uninstalled it then reinstalled it...

Unfortunately I forgot to push it back into system before rebooting the phone. Now I have a lockscreen and then a crashing phone!

I can adb into it still and would like to know how to get either a launcher from my Titanium Backup into system/app, or from an apk I have on my desktop into system/app?

In adb I can't currently use remount for whatever reason.

I'm using CF-Root 3.5 kernel.

Thanks guys!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Stupidly lost launcher Huston We Have A Problem.

Factory reset ???

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMathMan:
Factory reset wont work I dont think due to the lack of TouchWiz at all!!

Also, trying to avoid a reset.

Thinking maybe I can launch Titanium via ADB and then I can sort it from there?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMathMan:
Could you elaborate jje?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheGhost1233:
mount -o rw,remount /system

Posted by Chainfire himself in the kernel thread.

Then push normally with adb to system. You might need to use "su" before mounting but i don't think so with adb.

Edit:

Factory resets won't change anything since they don't touch the system partition, only data.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMathMan:
Right... no joy. It mounted fine and a SU request came up on screen and all is good.

Then exiting shell and doing adb pus I get a permission denied error.

I can't enter adb push from # as it doesnt like it!

What am I doing wrong?

Also, what would be the am command to launch Titanium Backup from adb?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMathMan:
OK... read somewhere that you cant push directly to system/app with a secured kernel.

So I have pushed to sdcard and then cp to system/app... fingers crossed!

....

HURRAH!!!!

It reset the homescreen default and the menu popped up. Phew!
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
Which do you prefer? And why?

I wanna know what y'all use.

I use GO SMS Pro 'cus it is a lot faster than Handcent, but there seems to be a limit to the number of characters you can enter in a text message.

Handcent lags a lot for me. It also delays the notifications by about 10 seconds. Though it doesn't have a limit to the number of characters that can be entered in a text message.

I'd also like to know if there's a way to remove the lag from Handcent... does anyone else have the issue..?

And.. is it possible to remove the maximum characters limit in GO SMS Pro..??

Thank You.

_peace_

Ron Gangte
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] s3th.g3ck9:
Same problem with Handcent for me - lags like hell. I'm using Go SMS Pro now. It's very fast and i like the amount of things you can adjust. In combination with Smart Keyboard Pro it's the most comfortable messaging set up. :)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] anant.0097:
Go sms pro is better in terms of speed and functionality. So I prefer it over stock sms and other sms applications.

As for the character limit problem..... actually the limit for a single sms is 160 characters..... the limit is universal.... go sms just shows this and handcent dosen't.... it is infact a nice feature for people who don't have free messaging and want to see how many sms they are sending.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
@anant I am not talking about the limit of 160 characters per SMS. I mean the limit that exists while composing a message in GO SMS Pro. Try copying and pasting a really long article from your browser & you'll know. Handcent doesn't have any limit regarding that.

I like to send real long text messages. :-)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] giorgi-alonso:
Same for me. Go sms pro + smart kayboard pro ;)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] eve_bluemoon:
i will definitely go for Go Sms Pro.

Just a week ago, my phone unable receive any sms. but i insert the same sim card in another phone, it does receive sms. i tried factory reset but the same problem existed. then someone suggested me use Go Sms Pro, this problem solved automatically.

regards your query, i think you can try this:

1. at inbox, press menu button and then select settings

2. select "send settings"

3. then check the "split large messages" box

your long message will be sent in mutiple messages.

Hope this can help you!
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] hodostamas:
go sms pro.. the earlier version of handcent was good, but after some upgrade its become very slow and laggy..

Go sms is fast with >200 sms too :)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] anant.0097:
yeah i tried it...... it pasted properly...... or are your talking about the small message box?
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
Everyone seems to be missing my point.

What I am saying is, there seems to be a limit in the number of characters(or alphabets) that can be entered in textbox while composing a text message. Whenever I copy and paste a long article(I mean about 33 SMSes long), I cannot type or enter anything beyond that.

Handcent does not have that limit. :-\
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Vdvx:
For those things we have an email app :)

Sent from my GT-I5800
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] anant.0097:
oh...... i went up till 19 messages.....never 33! ..... umm... do a thing send a bug report of the same to Go Developers and they'll fix it!... trust me i've tried!
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] anant.0097:
lol ....... point! :)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] debaj:
No offense, but why do you send so long messages as SMS? This is a total abuse of the technology. I am sure that you could send these in email, or you can simply send a link to that article.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
No offense taken.

Yea. You are right. But that is not always possible, you know. Not "all" of my friends use a phone capable of receiving E-Mails, neither do they have access to the net on their phone.

Plus, I find sending an SMS a much easier way to communicate.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] ron_gangte:
Yep. I did that.

Now, let's see what they do. :-)