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[Xoom General] p-slim:
I am a asshole because I can't stand people crying and I also hate the "I want chants" this thread is long and the only thing that kurtail has said moto has done wrong is by not informing us of the real reason for the delay. Now you're telling me that's a bad thing or now they've lost my trust, I can't agree with that.
[Xoom General] musashiken:
Those links are from Verizon which means nuts to those of us outside the US and those using wifi only Xooms.

My beef is not with the lack of sd card support, but the lack of any official follow up regarding its delay. Only thing I see is "will be enabled in a future update" from Motorola's support forum. And in my humble opinion, that doesn't sound assuring when I have to search and dig through a support forum just to find that out.

Also I don't recall any official word from Google that explicitly explains the lack of sd card support.

The closest thing I can find is from this thread and it still doesn't explain **** to me.

So can anyone explain or post links from official announcements regarding this? So far I only see Google and Motorola ignoring this and "fanboys" crapping up self-opinionated reasons without official and relevant links to back up their explanations.

I bought my Wifi Xoom knowing very well that the sdcard will not be working. But it's disappointing that after 2-3 months there's still nothing from the officials. And being a non US user, cloud options like Music Beta and Movies are not available to me which makes additional storage a much needed alternative.

I'm not whining or ranting here, but as a consumer I have my rights to voice my concerns. I just want a proper explanation of the current situation that's all. I also do not need a dose of why you FEEL otherwise.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
1st of all can someone explain this fanboy thing, as you can tell from my sig I have an evo and prior this I had a nexus 1, how am I a fanboy if this is the 1st motorola product I've bought since I purchased a motorola razor for my mom many moons ago? I could care less about motorola as a company, they don't pay me. 2nd it is google that hasn't actually created a way through source for sd so its not like they've actually done anything wrong so that's why there is no official statement saying its broken. Asus created there own work around to get sd working as well as our devs have also, so motorola could probably create something or they may wait for the OS release from google to enable it. Just like the 3rd nexus 1 update unlocked HALF of the memory that was locked away in the 1st kernel. Before the update came out google didnr give an official statement saying they released a product with only half the memory available. Also before that update xda devs had created new kernels that had unlocked full potential just like they've done with our xooms to enable sd before google puts it out.
[Xoom General] Charlie_Don't_Surf:
I read that in Kurtz voice. :D
[Xoom General] kalfou:
You all are equally as sad as each other, go outside and see the world and stop arguing on some forum about some ****ty electronic product. Also will everyone get over this immature fanboy stupidity, hes apples fanboy, she's Google fangirl, both those companies don't give a flying **** about any of you

Sent from the Aids ridden slums of China using the claw of an unborn rat
[Xoom General] musashiken:
You are being too defensive. I wasn't even referring to you but the general vibe I get reading this thread. And you are not showing me where you get the idea that google hasn't "created a way through source for sd". If there's no official announcement either way, so how do you know? I'm not a technical guy, I'm no programmer and I seriously do not care to understand how honeycomb works. I'm just an average consumer who wants layman answers. All I know is that Motorola stated in some obscure place on the web that sd card will be enabled sometime in the future and it's not enough for me. For all I know it can be after I'm a granddad with 10 grandchildren.

And I don't care for rooting my Xoom so all that stuff about kernels and unlocking stuff through hacking doesn't relate to me. I'm expressing my views as an average consumer of the Xoom who has no interest in rooting to "unlock full potentials". Some people in XDA seem to have this wrong idea that everyone who buys a Xoom are going to root their devices or do fancy shmancy stuff that no average consumer will do.

And I'm no stranger to rooting android devices. I'm running a Gigglebread CM7 nightly on my Nexus One. At least the Nexus One worked like a charm out of the box without much hassle. Rooting was optional.

The problem I have now is that Motorola "promised" sd card support but I'm not seeing anything more concrete from them. I'm not even blaming Google since Google wasn't the one promising the sky and not delivering it.
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
Your adamant defense of Motorola combined with your pointed condescending attitude as well as your inability to see anyone elses' disapointment in them as legitamate in concert with your history of crusading in their defense makes you a "fanboy".

-It's not like you haven't argued about this before.

If someone is pissed off and convinced that they are justifiably so, and you try to change their mind by attempting to make them feel or look stupid- well, that pretty much makes you a douche.

So you're both.
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
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Really? Verizon Links?

How do you know that Motorola isn't giving the same BS excuses to Verizon privately, that they are giving to us paying customers publicly?

I loved how you ignored where I shoved your own words back at you, and that you answered my question about how do you know that "MOTOROLA" is still working on 4G for the Xoom with VERIZON links.

Why aren't you man enough to say that you have no direct knowledge whether Motorola is still working on 4G for the Xoom? Your mommy didn't breast feed you, huh?

Sent from my Bolt
[Xoom General] Psychokitty:
Ehh. l'm out.
[Xoom General] Kippui:
This, the shareholders are in nice 5 million dollar homes, not you 2 arguing.
[Xoom General] kurttrail:
My pension fund is in a "nice

5 million dollar home."

Not all shareholders are even people dude. Not all people that are shareholders are multi-millionaires.

Your statement is stupid on many levels.

Plus I am outdoors as I'm posting this, so even the post you are agreeing with is stupid.

I can make fun of ya'll on xda while enjoying this refreshing night breeze.

What's really sad is posting **** that isn't even on topic.

That topic by the way is about how Motorola incompetence in fulfilling their obligations to Xoom owners in a timely manner, and then giving obviously bull**** excuses to try to coverup their incompetence.

Sent from my Bolt
[Xoom General] Kippui:
I honestly don't care. I shouldn't of even posted since I got this wifi zoom as a present.

Whether you have 1 dollar or millions go qq in the PM system, the pages of bickering should get deleted/locked.

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[Xoom General] kurttrail:
I would respect your opinion more had you honestly cared.

I never trust a person that starts off by saying they "honestly don't care."

That they are going out of their way to protest their honesty, usually means that they aren't being honest.

douchebagsaidnotpostingagainsodontwatsemovementswitharebuttal

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[Xoom General] brianmoriarty:
I'm almost positive I heard it directly from them in the keynote speech for google I/O. They mentioned that they don't support the other manufacturers work around for sd because they want to find a way to do it without exposing the end user to files they can mess up. I think that's dumb, since there are a miriad of apps to do just that, but I am also not leading a billion dollar company. I've also heard it other places all over the web. Google it and find out, xoom no sd card support asus acer or something. Again, that is also why they didn't get the update right away. I don't think I can post links yet, this is only my third post.

I still don't see what the big deal is. Yes, it sucks that we don't have it. It's annoying. But it isn't like these companies aren't working on it. How often do people expect to be updated on their progress? Google's only job isn't to improve honeycomb. They're also working on ice cream sandwich, gingerbread for current devices, new google run apps, their own programs and lots of other stuff they don't tell us about. I know they brought up the Xoom in one of the keynote speeches just last month. They said, "We're working on it." Let them, or root and use that instead.

Edit: I found this on the motorola forum, one of the first links when I googled it myself.

kdcrup

28. Apr 12, 2011 8:11 PM (in response to schirmyver)

Wi-Fi Xoom SD Card Slot?

<facepalm>

There is NO official support in the OS for SD-Cards in Honeycomb. All we did at XDA (and what I'm assuming Asus did for their eeeeeeeeee-transformer; I haven't seen their source yet) was a dirty hack that lets it be attached statically to the system.

So, yes, the problem at its root cause is that the current volume management in HC is limited to one device only, and quick-and-dirty hacks aside until they release an update to change that, the issue lies with Google.

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[Xoom General] musashiken:
Thanks for posting a link (helped you embed this). But I fail to see how this is an official statement. Especially when it's just one post from a user among many. Again it's just someone explaining/claiming something without factual evidence as backup.

No doubt he may be right but as someone ignorant but looking for a reliable answer, a post like this would be straight away dismissed after a search.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
There isn't an official statement because google doesn't issue statements for everything it hasn't accomplished yet. If its not in the source that's pretty official
[LG Optimus 2x] IEski:
So, im running on CM7 with custom CM kernel, and when i flash another ROM, will i get back stock kernel ? I´m just wondering, bcuz everytime i flash new rom i flash kernel, and i all time forget to look on it. And i have much school now so i dont have time to try it. ^_^
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Yes, kernel will change with ROM.
[LG Optimus 2x] IEski:
Ok ill flash back stock ROM i dont know what ROMs are best on gaming but Cyanogen is not even as good on 1.5ghz as Stock 1ghz...
[LG Optimus 2x] _mightyI:
How did you measure ?

(Don't use Quadrant Benchmark or something else froyo related ---> cm7 is gingerbread)
[General Questions and Answers] FreeTheWorld:
A coworker and I have decided to build an app together, we are certainly not a company and dont plan to be.

But I am the one with the google account so the sales will be attached to me come tax season. Does anyone know how I go about paying my coworker properly and make sure we also both get taxed properly.

Or is there someway to add him to my google account?
[Xperia Play General] ddave11:
Has anyone else been experiencing random shutdowns on their play?

I'm using an r800a unbranded using davinci.
[Xperia Play General] ammarcool12:
I had a reboot it once it usually happens when ur memory is ultra full and the phone cant handle it or when u have task killers that kill the phone
[Xperia Play General] DeadlyDazza:
I have had several unexpected reboots since the 2.3.3 update.

Had none before.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
maybe sony changed the cpu frequency table in the new kernel, would account for the reboots :)
[Xperia Play General] svenk919:
2.3.3 fixed it for me.
[Xperia Play General] ddave11:
Just to be clear my phone does not reboot it shuts off and the only way I can get it back on is by popping the battery and putting it back in.
[Xperia Play General] dsswoosh:
That is your punishment for using task killers ;)

The only possible reason to use a task killer anymore is if for some strange reason you want to kill your battery as fast as possible.
[Xperia Play General] TheBassman369:
I've had a few. I think I've had 5 since I got it on Saturday.

It's still better than my Captivate and Desire HD, though.
[Xperia Play General] letmedanz:
Not reboots, but the phone does hang quite often.

Having used the xperia x10 before i was expecting a better performance with the phone.

not happy with the play
[Xperia Play General] finalaeonhsieh:
Me too, I have experienced a couple of random reboots since my update to 2.3.3. One happened during charging. The other one happened right after quitting game.
[Xperia Play General] TheBassman369:
The lagging was getting pretty bad, so I installed Launcher Pro and that helped. The stock launcher used a lot of memory for me.

I believe we'll see the problems disappear once custom ROM's start showing up.
[Xperia Play General] DeadlyDazza:
Please explain

I've had resets after quitting games too.
[Xperia Play General] Zbawiciel:
I only had one random reboot during phone call (-_-)

But except that everything's been fine.
[Xperia Play General] metcard:
I've had two random reeboks since getting the phone.

Once on 2.3.2 and once on 2.3.3 whlist using Opera mini.

Opera Mini also randomly closes on me way too often, I think a lot of apps aren't fully compatible with 2.3 and it causes the OS to spaz out and shut down.
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
cpu's are designed to reboot if they detect any kind of extreme (heat or high/low frequencies ect) some cpu are very sensitive to very high or low frequencies, if sony has changed the tables, it could be somthing as simple as a big jump in the frequency at high load time that is making the cpu reboot the device, check the log function in setcpu, i think you maybe able to change the frequencies, i know with my DHD and the same cpu, i had some reboot issues when the devs started messing about with the tables :)