yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinybeetle:
The LY-F528 looks very interesting. It has a 1024x600 screen, GPS and the device has a promised 8 hour battery life.

Update: Here's a description of the new tablet.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ozedfr:
Hi,

Look here:

- Information on various and original firmware version for the tablet LY F521 = GT-PAD = M801: lunasalt.com

Other Custom ROM: androtab.info

and the tip to root this tablet with SuperOneclick version 1.95: lunasalt.com

adb root

adb remount

adb shell rm /system/tts/lang_pico/*

BR

Ozedfr
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SergPro:
Weird screen

Since some time my SenseV7 started to behave very bad - it looks like the screen registers multiple touches from one finger.

Looks like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l17n46udXPc

I tried to upgrade the firmware, it doesn't help.

What can be done else here (besides from sending the tablet for repairs - I'm afraid this will last for months :( ) ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
I have the same tablet and the same problem. pls help!

I have the same tablet and the same problem. help!

---------- Post added at 03:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:18 PM ----------

I have the same tablet and the same problem. pls help! :(

MID YX-7A0X

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/7-capa...-wifi-3d-acceleration-1-2ghz-ddr3-512mb-81644
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinybeetle:
To all who have the 800x480 screens. The website below is to the manufacturer. They have FW and other downloads on the site for all of their devices. Best wishes in getting your devices running again.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
tks but dont work. :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
LY-F521 with 800x480

This is machine translation from Japanese to English. LY-I has a resolution of 800x480 F521. It is model A002. Again, there is no original ik.rom instruction from the terminal will accept google seach "F521-telechip-8803-android-2.3-OS-tablet-PC-with-7-inch-A8-CPU" usb in, the touch screen does not work.

I have not come to normal operation, but if you play by trial and error.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
sorry, I can't understand what you wanted to say. if you need please send your question by PM with Japanese.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
My LY-521 with 800x480 : model A002 few working

This site is for beginners, let me write the link. Instead of writing a link, there was no way represent the only link to a Google search.

The products that we have to work the resolution of 800x400 in My LY-F521, I need to show that firmware.

That keyword

A."F521-telechip-8803-android-2.3-OS-tablet-PC-with-7-inch-A8-CPU"

B."shopono.com"

C."8803OS 2.3.3.rar"

If you search in C, it takes you to the firmware.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
hopefully I understand now.

http://www.shopono.com/products/LY%...roid-2.3-OS-tablet-PC-with-7-inch-A8-CPU.html

link for "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" is provided in this page. and you said it's for 800x480 model, right?

EDIT: it looks like 5/17 ver. I'll compare it with 5/17 for 1024x600 ver. do not flash this rom until someone confirmed!

in this page there is description "LCD is 1024x600". but, as you may know, almost of all chinese product description has wrong info somewhere ;)

please confirm, you have 800x480 model, you flashed rom in "8803OS 2.3.3.rar", your tablet still works fine, right?

--

in Japanese, (sorry for others)

先のポストでは、あなたが問題を抱えているのか、それとも解決方法を提示しているのかわかりませんでした。

"8803OS 2.3.3.rar" のリンクの場所を教えていただいてありがとうございます。

念のため確認したいのですが、あなたは 800x480 のモデルを持っていて、実際に 8803OS 2.3.3.rar を焼いてみて、問題ない事を確認されたという事であっているでしょうか ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
* info from 5/17 rom for 1024x600

- kernel

Linux version 2.6.35.7-tcc (android@android) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #73 Tue May 17 11:20:28 HKT 2011

touchscreen should be ITE7260 (or compatible one)

- system

ro.build.display.id=full_m801-eng 2.3.3 GRI40 20110517.112115 test-keys

ro.build.user=watt

ro.build.host=watt-liweigang

ro.product.model=LY-F521

* info from "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" rom

- kernel

Linux version 2.6.35.7-tcc (android@android) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #76 Tue May 17 18:20:09 HKT 2011

touchscreen should be uor6153 (or compatible one)

- system

ro.build.display.id=full_m801-eng 2.3.3 GRI40 20110517.173845 test-keys

ro.build.user=watt

ro.build.host=watt-liweigang

ro.product.model=FP7

it seems these rom were built by same person on same day, but for different device. (system.img is almost same other than timestamp, but generally system.img has no relation to screen size)

I extracted boot splash image(attached in this post). it's 800x480 image. so I think "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" is for 800x480 model.

BUT, I have another dumped image from 800x480 model, in that model, touchscreen controller should be ft5x06 or compatible one. then, touchscreen will not work if you flashed "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" into 800x480 but ft5x06 model!

on EM73 variants, lk.rom is important for working touchscreen. I'm not sure technical detail (I guess GPIO or I2C or something are initialized differently in lk.rom). I'm not sure about LY-F521 too.

if you have LY-F521 800x480 model, and you already flashed 1024x600 lk.rom and you got non-working LCD/touchscreen, please try "8803OS 2.3.3.rar". bootsplash will be fine, but TS will not work. then, restore your backup(if you have), or flash boot.img for ft5x06. it may fix TS if kernel re-initialize TS properly. (of course I do not guarantee at all, sorry)

here is dumped boot.img from 800x480 screen with ft5x06.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16664037&postcount=908

try this one if you don't have your own backup.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
I have LY-F521 with 800x480

in Japanese (sorry for others too)

私が所有している製品は、DealExtremeでA002を検索させれば、出てきます。（SKU 72897）

もちろん8803OS　2.2.3.rarが、すべて正常に動作するわけではありません。

画面とGセンサーとusb キーボードは正常に動作してますが、静電タッチセンサーは動きません。

しかし、USBでadb shellを受け付ける私の所有するファームウェアです。オリジナルのFWDNイメージがあれば、

このサイトで英語と格闘していないでしょう。

私のミスで安易にLY-F521が1024ｘ600しか無いと思い込んでいました。

しかし、数多くの製品がこの名前を使っています。

当然、EM73 Gpad702 などのファームウェアを入れてみましたが、メニュ画面まで辿り着きません。

この8803OSはik.romサイズから、800ｘ480で表示されるものです。失敗から150ｋｂ前後のものは最初から駄目なことは、わかっていました。地雷を踏む覚悟でフラッシュした次第です。
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
please use English if you want to post here. please use PM(private message system n XDA) if you want to talk in Japanese.

--

for others,

carp1 bought 800x480 model from dealextreme (SKU 72897, there is "Model: A002" and clearly 800x480 description in DX page). he already flashed "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" but TS is still dead.

if you have working LCD/TS, don't flash it.

if you have non-wroking LCD/TS, trying is ok, but TS may not work. if TS doesn't work, then try boot.img for ft5x06 TS controller in my previous post.

I'm not sure SKU 81644 on DX is same, or not same.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
Thank you fan.

Thank you fun.

My tablet is working properly LCD / TS / Wifi / OTG with your boot.img.

The anomalous behavior is the only G-sensor.Almost rotate left 90 degrees.

Thank you for teaching different.:p
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
thank you for your info!

you'll help other 800x480 owner :)

actually that boot.img is for 7/20 ROM. I think sensor module was changed from older ROM. you may need new sensor module from 7/20 ROM.

try lk.rom from 800x480 ROM + tcc_mtd.img from 1024x600 7/20 ROM + boot.img dumped from 800x480 ROM.

--

but I heard accelerometer is wrong with 7/20 ROM (on 1024x768 model). I don't know detail.

for 1024x768 model owners, please tell me 7/20 ROM issue.

--

for 800x480 model owners, if your stock rom was older than 7/20, and you have backup of boot.img, please upload it somewhere.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
dmesg 800x480 LCD

G-sensor is calibrated and worked successfully.

Appear rotated 90 degrees to the left of the camera built-in shooting.

The photo file is correctly

an excerpt of the dmesg

<4>[ 0.970000] m801_88_init_panel LCD panel type 7

<4>[ 0.970000] at070tn93_probe : 0

..............

<6>[ 1.030000] LCD panel is INNOLUX AT070TN93 800 x 480

<4>[ 1.030000] tccfb_probe, screen_width=800, screen_height=480

................................

<4>[ 1.430000] cbs ft5x06 Touch Driver

<4>[ 1.430000] touchscreen device create success!!

<4>[ 1.430000] ft5x06_ts_probe

<6>[ 1.440000] input: tcc-ft5x06-ts as /devices/virtual/input/input0

<4>[ 1.460000] ID okSENSOR_ID[0]==55

<4>[ 1.470000] ID ok

<4>[ 1.470000] ft5x06_ts request_irq success

<4>[ 1.470000] ft5x06 driver is successfully loaded

......................................

<6>[ 1.540000] Linux video capture interface: v2.00

<6>[ 1.540000] TCCXXX Camera driver initializing

<4>[ 1.550000] Camera Feature is alive!

<6>[ 1.550000] tccxxx-camera: registered device video0 [v4l2]

<6>[ 1.560000] _______cam_i2c_probe() : cam_i2c_client = 0xd8cef600

................................................

<3>[ 5.920000] init: cannot find '/system/etc/install-recovery.sh', disabling 'flash_recovery'
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
oh cool!!. i have sku 81644. i fla**** with 8803OS 2.3.3.rar and now boot !!!! but dont work de TS how put boot.img ?

tks a lot!!!!

sorry my english
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
800x480 LCD dead or alive?

Fastboot mode to start the first tablet

My Tablet

Return button + Power => FWDN Mode

Homepage Button + Power => Fastboot Mode

android-sdk-windows create an environment .I think that already.

I was needed in addition to writing android_winusb.inf Fastboot Mode.

;Android

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_18D1&PID_D00D

%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_18D1&PID_D00D

When you connect usb make sure there are no question marks over the role in the control panel, hardware devices.

If properly recognized, the goal is close.

Boot.img to copy the current directory and then the windows command prompt.

exp. a user name = hoge

C:\Documents and Settings\hoge>fastboot flash boot boot.img

-------------------------------------------------------------

sending 'boot' (10240 KB)...

OKAY [ 2.547s]

writing 'boot'...

OKAY [ 3.656s]

finished. total time: 6.203s

--------------------------------------------------------------

There may be other ways.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
TKS !! now touch screen work !! but i have the problem with screen rotate ? how you fixed ? tks!!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
Thk your Report.I happy too.

Please try and calibration.

Menu button -> Settings -> Display setting -> G-Sensor Calibration

Set against the screen.

By trial and error it becomes normal.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
are you still using "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" or 7/20 ROM for 1024x600?

(with correct boot.img, of course)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carp1:
good job?

I incorporated into the 7 / 20 ROM of the tablet last.

Environment because I do not have linux, and create a binary tccpack tccunpack in cygwin.

gcc tccunpack.c -- > a.exe

http://www.lyxfsz.com/cn/downs_view.htm?id=1　 firmware(LY-F521) m801_mtd.img

boot.img(fun) + system.img(LY-F521) + recovery.img(fun) 　--> new_m801_mtd.img

8803OS.2.3.3.rar ----> ik.rom

How big is disgusting behavior font and icon.

And the G-sense camera is working properly.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
How big is disgusting behavior font and icon.

Edit build.prop in /system (need root access and root explorer)

ro.sf.lcd_density=240

to

ro.sf.lcd_density=160 (800x480)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
(actually lostofctrl gave me that boot.img)

you did good job :)

I just asked and I thought if you couldn't then I'll do it ;)

anyway, congrat.

then now you have good working LY-F521(?) with 800x480? sounds so nice :)

(7/20 ROM may have bugs but it will be common both 1024x600 and 800x480)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
how change default screen orientation to landscape?. when flash boot.img changed to portrait. i need help for edit boot.img for change orientation default to landscape.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689317&d=1313393066
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickball:
HDMI dont work

HDMI output dont work for me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
Hi Can anyone let me a little more detail how and what I can from here to do do ....??

Thank you very much

Boot.img to copy the current directory and then the windows command prompt.

exp. a user name = hoge

C:\Documents and Settings\hoge>fastboot flash boot boot.img

-------------------------------------------------------------

sending 'boot' (10240 KB)...

OKAY [ 2.547s]

writing 'boot'...

OKAY [ 3.656s]

finished. total time: 6.203s
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fun_:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18464513&postcount=1240

I made CWM/CM7 for 800x480 model. I hope it works as same as 1024 model.

EDIT:

this is for ft5x06 or compatible touchscreen model. if you have uor6153 or compatible model, i.e. you can use "8803OS 2.3.3.rar" rom without replacing boot.img, please don't use.

if you have uor6153 model and if you need CWM/CM7, please ask me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
Hi

I would have used the resolution to 1024x600?

lp
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hene193:
Is this: http://www.99pad.com/thread-23429-1-1.html The best firmware version for this tablet? Is it fully working? If yes then can i have simple instructions for how to do it?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
3G???

Hello everyone! Just a few questions:

1. Does anyone pair LY-F521 with 3g modem? On which firmware? What's you model? How it's working?

2. Have anyone got problems with the very weak wi-fi signal?

3. Which of the firmaware for 1024x600 version is more stable? Can someone make the list with links and description, cause I'm stuck, choosing the right one.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dj__Yoyo:
It's amazing, very well the only problem is that it does me, wifi??

wifi works for you ......
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
Now I've got huge problems! I just tried to downgrade my stock firmware (09/17) to see if it would work better, but after all process I'm stuck at splash screen on every firmware I have tried... I used this instruction: lunasalt.com/?p=1627 and now I broke my device. Also, I cannot even load stock recovery, cause when I hold back button and power slider down, nothing happens. Can someone help me with my tradegy?..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
I have the same problem as mr_trash
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
Nice to see I'm not alone in my troubles...

So, Sseerrbboo, where did you get your tablet from?

What was your last firware, build number, android, kernel version, screen resolution, memory capacity, any special characteristics?

What firmwares did you tried?

Which methods did you tried?

Why did you tried upgrading?

Maybe this could help us both.

I think the problem is in *.img file (unsupported farm), but I don't know why all LY-F521 firmwares don't work on my tablet. So there must be newer version of firmware, or hardware changes (need to look inside)... I wish to find an answer...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
Sense v7, GT-pad, suli my7, ly-F521

Hi, I tried many firmwares but I just stick one up on my pills .... and also in the system occur, but we touch screen does not work ...

Model number: FP7

Android system version is: 2.3.3

radio software version is: unknown

kernel version is: 2.6.35.7-tcc

android @ android # 76

The working version is:

full_m801-eng 2.3.3 GRI40 20110517.173845 test-keys

everything I wrote was translated by google translate, and we apologize in advance ... lp
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
Looks badly for both of us...

I've got FP8 model with 2011/09/17 build (1024x600). And I can't even load any of existing firmwares. Actually, there is no newer version than 7/20 and there is little chance to find any. I waiting for my supplier to respond and also mailed lyxf manufacturer and some other guys, but have no useful answer (if got any) and I'm about to sure that no one even care except of us. So we're at the same boat right now. The biggest lesson I learned is to never mess with the upgradings without 100% certainty and backups.

By the firmware, it seems like you have 800x480 screen resolution. I can only suggest to try different rom, leaving the *.img file, cause current must be incompatible with your touch screen.

By the way, give me you wi-fi mac address. This may be useful when I'll run my tablet again.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
healthy mr_trash please send me the img file and ROM dated 17/09/2011 that the probe is that ...

Oh my tablet has a resolution of 1024x600 ..

lp, and if you had any information please contact me and tell me how and what ...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
The problem is that I haven't got it anymore. This was my factory build and I've lost it downgrading to 7/20. I'll contact you if I'll find it somewhere.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
ok mr trash

I am glad that at least one up here who can say what they mean .... Oh and by where are you?

I'm from Slovenia ..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] honkapuro:
recovery

I have a Sense V7 tablet (1024*600).

Model number: FP7 V4

Android system version is: 2.3.3

kernel version is: 2.6.35.7-tcc android @ android #137

software version 20110917_v1.6

The tablet starts normally and works ok in normal mode.

I have rooted the tablet OK.

I am using the adb shell commands without problems (PC connected with USB to tablet) .

However there seems to be a problem with the recovery mode.

The tablet will not go into recovery mode either:

- by pressing home when powering on

- or by rebooting into recovery mode from adb shell (PC connected with USB to tablet)

I have tried to install the latest (111029) Clockworkmod without luck.

(Clockworkmod installs without errors, but tablet will not boot into recovery mode)

Would it be possible for someone send me the "recovery.img" for this tablet (or a download link)?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
2sseerrbboo. I'm from Russia. Found finish and russian guys who got their tablets bricked the same way. One is asking his manufacturer and waiting for reply. I'm at the same point (waiting my supplier who promised me to upload new firmware).

2honkapuro. Have you made backup of your firmware? Or got similar one?

When I was on my 20110917_v1.6 I couldn'y access to recovery mode too. I think it's our device's loader issue. What's with your tablet now? Where have you bought yours?

Please give me your wi-fi mac in PM, please.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] honkapuro:
No, I have not made backup of my firmware.

The tablet is still working fine in normal mode. Only recovery mode broken.

Requested help from fun_ regarding ClockworkMod Recovery 5 in another thread.

I will try to make a romdump tomorrow.

(I have never made img-file from romdump files, so if anyone knows how, please advice!?)

I have requested firmware backup from supplier, but no reply yet.

I will keep you posted if I have any progress.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
mr_trash

Why do you use wifi mac address?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
2sseerrbboo I think my mac is cleared and I need to restore it via FWDN tools menu. The only way to find it is to take from the same device.

honkapuro Thanks for your efforts. I also wanted to know how did you managed to install clockworkmod on tablet and how did you returned to normal mode after that? By the way, how can you make romdump and what's the difference from original ROM's?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] honkapuro:
I installed the clockworkmod

recovery

using adb shell commands.

However as stated the clockworkmod recovery is NOT working on my tablet.

I have (luckyly) not tried to install new system img.

So on my tablet only the recovery mode broken. I can still start my tablet normally, use it normally and also connect to PC with USB and use adb shell.

I think I should be able to make romdump of my system also by using the adb shell commands. I have not yet had the time to try.

I have no idea what the romdump looks like; I guess it is not a installable img file?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sseerrbboo:
hi.

a

where one might get a touch screen to sense v7? (mid PF7)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_trash:
2sseerrbboo. You should ask your supplier about that - he knows better.

By the way, are you really sure that your problem is in hardware?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realnowanda:
Hi

I have flashed cm7 with fwdn (ly-f521 1024*600). everything is ok, works fine.

i want comeback to normal FW . I tried to flash with fwdn but din't succeed.

the problem is that:

while fwdn.exe is waitting on the pc, i am connecting tablet and pc via usb cable (tablet is off) then i am pressing return+power butons.but fwdn.exe does't response.the tablet is opennig normaly. (i think "return" buton doesn't work)

can you help me how can i reflash normal FW?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] houkani:
Hi!

I have Diel Flick 7" tablet and i have installed CM 7. It's working goob but now im giving this tablet to my brother so i will flash the original rom BUT i dont have it!! Can someone upload it somewhere?

Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shookk:
Hello! I have LY-F521 tablet. I tried to flash a new firmware into it, but something went wrong. Now when i try to start up my tablet only what i see is android boot image. Nothing happens. I tried to even push menu + start, but then it goes into black screen. Is there anything i can do to get my tablet working again :confused:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realnowanda:
I found the solution.

my tablet had collapsed totally, it was not able to open, buttons were not working. I could not flash it normally because the button problem.

but i discover a hardware way for loading firmwares.

finally, i have flashed a stock rom. tablet is working. back and home buttons still do not work. ??

anyway, i can use it at least...

After this experience, i suggest that "never load CM7 to ly-f521"
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] margorita:
It's amazing, very well the only problem is that it does me, wifi??

wifi works for you ......
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khernden69:
Storage Settings in LY-F521

I have an LY-F521 Tablet. Can someone tell me what these storage setting are for or what do they do for the tablet?

1 Nand Settings

2 Sata Settings

3 Scsi Settings

Thank you and I hope you have a nice day.

:)

---------- Post added at 01:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 AM ----------

Can someone tell me how to root this tablet? Thank you and have a nice day.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khernden69:
I tried SupeOneClick and it says my tablet is rooted but I don't see Superuser or anything else. I am new to the Android Tablet.

If you can help me out, I be thankful and would appreciate it.

---------- Post added at 04:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:23 PM ----------

Can you please tell me how you got this rooted?

Thank you.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khernden69:
Never Mind.

I figured it out. Thank you anyway.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pr0Bus:
problem with fwdn mode

Hello everybody,

I'm absolutely new to android and so, my question is hopefully easy to answer. :D

I just got a LY-F521 with 800x480 LCD from a friend:

Model number: MID

Android Version: 2.3.3

Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-tcc (android@android #379)

Build number: MID GRI40 20110719.121232 test-keys

I can't access my google calender through this table and so I want to install CyanogenMod 7 or the newest firmware from the producer on it.

But my two problems are:

I can't enter the fwdn mode

Is it possible to install cyanogenMod without fwdn-mode?

Behaviour of my device:

- Power + Back : Black screen (Recovery?) -> but fwdn says USB(USB Boot Supporter) Load Complete ! (0sec 03) and then freeze

- Power + Menu : Normal boot?

- Power + Home : no change

Is there someone who can help me understand more in the android world?

thx