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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Prankzter:
can a mod delete this please i found the sgs thread to post in sorry
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Hi. I've had a magic and I was very used to it. I flashed every rom I could find... :)

Now I got a desire and I've done a lot of reading but still have some questions.

My desire is like this:

bravo pvt1 ship S-off

Hboot - 0.93.1000

MICROP-031D

tOUCH PANEL - SYNW0101

Radio-5.17.05.08

Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18

I bought it this way.

Please tell me if I'm wrong:

From what I've read to flash a rom I just have to be careful with hboot. The question is if it is CM++ or something like this. How can I identify what mine is?

Apart from this I just have to partition my sd card in the way it is described in the topic of the rom.

Is this that easy? In the magic I had to change radio, spl and recovery depending on the rom...

Thanks!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dexter93:
Please write down what you see on the bootloader/hboot. Do you see anything pink on the top? Alpharev maybe?

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinger1:
u did not buy it brand-new, right?

i mean its second hand.

what we see here is a rooted, and as dexter93's said, hboot was changed to, maybe using alpharev.

s-off is not default for new devices, it should be S-ON

and 0.93.1000 should be 0.93.0001

these changes r done by alpharev.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Yes, it says alpharev.

BTW I forgot to mention that I've got ultimate droid at the moment.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davebugyi:
You have written down your info from thebootloader.

So if there is nothing like ALPHAREV CM7 in pink there, you have the stock HBOOT.

You can download the CM7 from http://alpharev.nl

AFAIK, you can flash CM7++ ROMs, too (not all tough) on the Stock HBOOT, but you will have extremely low space.

And for the SD Card partition - use at least 1GB - recommended for most ROMs.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dexter93:
What does it say next to alpharev?

Also what's your rom? radio?

Also download titanium backup from the market and tell us what you see on the partition info on the first page

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
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I forgot to mention that, too. Sorry.

I bought it second hand with ultimate droid.

I just have been reading about the way I should flash the roms without bricking the phone...

The first line in the bootloader is: ---alpharev---

So, I preseume I'm on stock hboot, right?

I haven't got a partition on sd card. I would have to partition it, according to rom devs, right?

I'm sorry I can't answer all your questions right away because I'm a still a restricted member in terms of posts.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Hi:

Is this the information yu want?:

---alpharev--- (pink)

bravo pvt1 ship S-off

Hboot - 0.93.1000

MICROP-031D

tOUCH PANEL - SYNW0101

Radio-5.17.05.08

Aug 10 2010, 17:52:1
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinger1:
no you are not on stock hboot.

i think the first owner of the device have changed the hboot

mostly he did it using alpharev

check this

http://alpharev.nl/

regarding the partition... you may want to do it in case you want to use app2sd, or data2sd, (app2sd+, data2ext, data2whatever) all this stuff need ext partition on the sdcard.

you can use amonRa or other methods to create a partition.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Hi, thanks for the reply.

But what do I have to do to flash the reflex rom, for example?

Do I need to change hboot? Or do I only need to change hboot if the developer says so?

Otherwise it's just partitioning the sd card and flashing the rom?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinger1:
yes you have to pay attention to the devs notes, some times they say Stock Hboot, sometimes they say ... its ok any one works, or this one only ...

using any rom ... well you have to check if the size of system partition will fit the size of the rom otherwise it will not install/work.

maybe other members will help you better, cuz i am on stock hboot, and never been in this stuff in details.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dexter93:
You are not on the stock hboot, but youve got the stock mtd partitioning. this means that as long as a developer doesnt mention hboot or says "stock", you are fine;) just follow the developers instructions to flash the rom. Most of the roms need an additional ext2/3/4 partition on your sd, after the fat one, so if the dev of the rom says so, you might need to make one ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Ok. Thank You dexter and every one else for the help.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broshkovischj:
hey guys, I'm actually really noobfabulous, and am already proud that I didn't post anything stupid in the devforum ;) but, since this is Q&A, here I go, first post ftw:

I just managed to root my RUU Rom, and to s-off with the alpharev and partitioned, nand-backup ( from the everything desire thread ). Now I do have two questions...

1) is the Hboot I'm currently running the Bravo Stock 1.8? ( havent changed a thing yet )

2) if not, how do I flash this? the installnotes provided on alpharev aren't sufficient for me, i.e., not knowing how to flash something in fastboot, I only know how to flash in recovery...

this is what I currently have, will just write everything down ^^

--- Alpharev --- ( pink )

Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-OFF

Hboot- 0.93.0001

microp-051d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101

radio-5.11.05.27
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tomdarkness:
Edit: Misread your post. Thought you were referring to if you were running AlphaRev or stock hboot.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broshkovischj:
I kinda figured out that I can just download the hboot table I want, put it on the root of my sdcard and boot in hboot ( as stated on the website, apparantly wasn't thorough enough reading! )

on which rest only one question for me: it's no harm if I have a different hboot, say, that 'Bravo Stock 1.8', and flash another on top of it, say, Bravo CM7? will it just override? Am not gonna trial 'n error on this one, I'm too afraid haha :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Great question. I would like to know that, too...

I haven´t understood the hboot thing yet.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] status_six:
Yes you just follow the instructions on that alpharev site, and flash over the old one. Remember you will be wiping everything afterward, so nandroid backup first. there is more detail in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794314
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinger1:
for the S-OFF and HBoot questions ... here is what i know ...

btw i am still S-ON (i am too lazy to do all this stuff lol)

you need to do a nand-backup anyways ...

1- first time when you do the alpharev (using the ISO) it will s-off ur device

2- now you can flash any other hboot from the list, using the fastboot

command

3- when you pick an hboot, the partitions size are mentioned next to it.

so if you are planning to still using the same (current) rom u have, u need to pick an hboot that the size of system,data, cache, ... fits the current rom,...

you can know that from the nand-backup u did, go and look at the size of system.img, and other file in the nand-backup folder, and see if they fit the hboot u will flash.

(fit means: the size of the system part of the hboot u want to flash is >= the size of system.img from nand-backup folder) and so on for other parts

otherwise, if you want to flash another rom, then you will pick any hboot u want, or STICK TO THE ROM DEVELOPER REQUEST. (some devs say, we need cm7 hboot for this rom)

so thats it, the main reason is to s-off,

then u can flash anything from fastboot:

radio, receovery img, rom, ... and so on.

hope this helps
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broshkovischj:
great :) this is giving me a real understanding of what I'm doing :)

if you don't mind, i'd like to ask another question, feel free to tell me to gtfo ;)

I'd like to take an example ( of which I think is a good example, because it has multiple options:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1040121

the Cool3D Sense rom requires:

either CM7 Hboot 130MB System, 5MB Cache, 302MB Data.

or DATA++ Hboot 180MB System, 5MB Cache, 252MB Data.

or Stock Hboot 250MB System, 40MB Cache, 147MB Data.

Stock Hboot Users need to Flash A2sd+ Script After Installing The ROM.

so if I understand correctly, I can install this rom with the CM7 hboot, without partitioning my SD card? because I don't need to flash A2sd script with that one. It also has the biggest Data partition. Because Stock Hboot only has 147, it needs to transfer the apps to the sdcard...?

I'm sorry if I'm kicking in an open door, but I really don't want to mess up my phone, so it's better to ask ^^

cheers, and thanks for all the help already ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinger1:
its ok :)

so you want to use cm7 or data++ with the rom

and you will not make a partition, you will not flash the a2sd script?

the rom dev mentioned in the rom features

so does he mean its already built in with the rom, or its the same script u have to download and flash separately?

the dev mentioned at the requirements section

so he says its for the a2sd, and u r not using the a2sd... you can try it

if u had boot loop or any issue try to make the partition, and reflash the rom.

one more thing, some roms got installed on both the rom , and part of it goes to sd-card, so maybe u need to double check with the dev if thats the case. or just try as above

good luck
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaale:
Thanks for explaining it so well. :)
[Atrix 4G Accessories] uisgdlyast:
I had an otterbox defender but it was too big and didnt fit my docks, so I went to the tpu but then i got the thinking... What is it protecting besides the back case? I mean is it really going to absorb enough shock to save my phone if I drop it?

I'm more worried about the screen, but even then the screen seems strong enough to not scratch (and if you scratched hard enough wouldnt it just go through the screen protector and scratch the screen anyways?)

I mean its a little slippery without the TPU case but will it really save my phone from a fall?

Are there screen protectors out there that will prevent my screen from shattering or scratching despite being gorilla glass?

It really just seems like the tpu makes my phone warmer than it should be and bigger...

I went 6 years with a razor only to have a semi deep scratch on the plastic and a few nicks...
[Atrix 4G Accessories] drew68:
My screen has two small scratches from putting my phone in my pocket with my car keys. I've always used tpu cases. I had one on my captivate and dropped it from about 10 feet and no damage. I guess it all depends on how it lands but mine has saved my phone multiple times.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] facetubespam:
go get and use the Otterbox Commuter case. It protects with minimal bulkiness.

Sadly, there is no screen protector in the world that doubles as a drop protector too. If you really want to protect against scratches and knicks and still have grip, get the ZAGG shield that also covers the back.

Sure, the Commuter is bigger than a TPU case but it sure as heck protects from drops more than a measly back cover.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] falconeight:
yes it will protect the phone
[Atrix 4G Accessories] uisgdlyast:
Well nothing sharp goes in my phone pocket, and the screen faces my leg.

I'm just not convinced a tpu would give it that much more protection. I'm sure moto has to do quality studies and test how durable they are. If I drop my phone I'm a lot more worried about breaking or scratching the screen than the back case.

And then are screeen protectors even strong enough? It really depends on how you drop it, all the force in one corner or the middle of the screen and thats it, if it falls flat on the back, probably no real damage. And what about shock? does it absorb all the shock or will something crack inside?

I want to write into myth busters, see if cases really protect.

Also, dont you notice your phone getting hotI assume from the thicker tpu, so wont that over heat it, slow it down, and reduce the life?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] OSNPA:
A case's effect on heat dissipation is real. The amount of heat removed from the phone by air (convection) is not going to be the same as the heat passing through the case (conduction) and convection on the outer surface. Material properties and thickness dictate how much is affected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thermal_conductivities

The higher the 'k' value, the easier it is for heat to pass through. As you can see,

the materials that would absorb shock better do not make the best conductors. So, this is not specific to TPU, just about any case is going to be lousy with cooling, in theory.
[Touch HD General] mickeystar:
My htc touch hd was originally on orange but i unlocked it and am using o2 pay as you go sim. however i never get a strong signal, and sometimes when i call people nothing happens when i check my balance sometimes it just says operation failed.

theres nothing wrong with the sim card as i've used it on other phones perfectly, and i've used a vodafone sim on my blackstone and its worked perfectly

also when im using android (problem occurs on all versions e.g. froyo/gingerbread) on my blackstone it says im on bt cellnet whilst im on o2 and so i my o2 sim card is useless on android. Do any other o2 users have this problem?

Should i get a new sim card? and is this with all o2 sim cards on blackstone?

EDIT

yeh still the same problem, signal always seems to be weak, but im gonna try the nandroid rom, my main isssue is that when ive used android on my blackstone from the sd card it says im on bt cellnet- when im on o2 !
[Touch HD General] Chef_Tony:
while from several clues in your post i assume you are in the UK, it would have been nice to mention that, since o2 exists in several countries with different sim cards, network infrastructures and frequencies.

from a quick search i found that orange uk is operating on the 1800mhz band, while o2 appears to be on the 900mhz band. assuming that while changing your sim card, you did not change the rom or any settings, this might be the solution:

open phone->menu->options

1. ->network, set network selection to automatic.

2. ->band, set network type to automatic and gsm/umts band to automatic

also, depending on your rom, there might be an automatic band selection option in comm manager.

while these are windows mobile settings, it might still affect your android problems as well, since android through haret is based on windows correctly loading hardware drivers.

the settings here are taken from my htc wwe 1.56 stock rom, values or naming might vary.
[Touch HD General] mickeystar:
yes from uk

yeh im using a kwbr rom(i think), on all roms ive tried including windows, i get the problem

for my band setting they are both auto, so do i change anything?

on network type its auto, band frequency is auto but i can choose from

auto,gsm(900+1800) + umts (900+1200), gsm(1900+850) or umts (2100)

so do u know how to fix the android problem thats my main concern, if nandroid comes to blackstone will the problem still occur?
[Touch HD General] Chef_Tony:
you could give it a go with gsm on the top one and gsm(900+1800)+umts(900+2100), since according to my research o2 uk operates on 900mhz for gsm and umts.

i am fairly certain, this issue originates in your windows mobile settings and is therefor also present in haret android. nandroid works in another way. since it is flashed directly in the rom space of the device, it replaces winmo and it will not depend on winmo for the initialization of the hardware. which is why i believe, the issue might not be present there.

also: have you tried other roms and/or other radio roms? the latest radio 1.17.25.09 is known for a generally better performance (which comes with the downside of slightly higher power consumption).
[Touch HD General] mickeystar:
nah i havent used other radio roms- i thought they just affected the radio, im not sure of what radio roms do. maybe ill try other radio roms when i've got time

ill change my band settings, will this have an effect on 3g and signal strength or anything?
[Touch HD General] Chef_Tony:
the radio rom handles all kinds of interactions between the windows mobile operating system and the hardware. this includes the fm radio, but also the camera, bluetooth, speaker, microphone, wi-fi, gps and also wireless communications like gsm and 3g.

so it might help your case. you should perform a hard reset after flashing a radio though, because previously stored bluetooth pairings or stored wi-fi networks might not work afterwards w/o a hard reset.

as mentioned above, the latest version 1.17.25.09 improves performance like quicker gps fix, better wi-fi signal and better gsm signal. also, have a look at this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1111373 and the one linked in there for information on how other people handled their similar signal problems.
[Touch HD General] mickeystar:
thanks ive read this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=560451

and downloaded the radio u suggested lets see if it works!

EDIT

yeh still the same problem, signal always seems to be weak, but im gonna try the nandroid rom, my main isssue is that when ive used android on my blackstone from the sd card it says im on bt cellnet- when im on o2 !
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] varunkumars:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1068660

I did try the mod above and lost my stock Music player. I did rename it back by deleting .bak from the name but the stock icon is gone. Can somebody help get back my stock Music player. I have CM7 Music player now. Help me get rid of that. Thanks.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] the_Calen:
having a problem with the stock player too, i'm not able to install the stock player and i dont know how to reinstall it with the musicplayer.apk and cant find the original music.apk
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] tom_rue:
Here comes the stock musicplayer from XWKE7. Your phone have to be rootet.

Extract the ZIP-File and copy the musicplayer.apk and musicplayer.odex in system/app (use Root Explorer or Super Manager - overwrite existing files).

Set attributes of musicplayer.odex to rw-r-r--.

Reboot your Phone - now it should work.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] the_Calen:
thanks, worked perfect
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] decouvrir:
Can't boot or enter recovery unless i connect it to wall charger.

Only download mode works.

Any one with similar issues or solutions?

Please help.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Prasad:
Which firmware are you on? Have you tried flashing another from Download mode?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HBCDestroyer:
I have exactly the same problem and its not good news. Empty battery icon bar and will not switch on unless plugged in. Anyway sent mine back for repairs and have been advised the following "your phone has liquid on the mainboard and is uneconimical to repair" ok fair enough...but, "the liquid indicator inside your phone has turned red voiding your phones warranty" WTF! I do have insurance cover on the phone which i have to pay extra to get a replacement phone which could be a refurbished phone is so frustrating and not really good enough in my opion. I did kind of hope that it might be a firmware of hardware issue but in my case no. I do however find it hard to believe as all other areas of the phone work perfectly, how this claim that there is liquid/moisture inside the phone only affects 1 area of the phone yeah right. I am not saying this is the case with your phone but it is an area to consider.

Goodluck with your phone i hope its not the same as mine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HarryGN:
i have the same problem anyone have an answer?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
I've got few doubts regarding the Nandroid backup. I boot into the recovery and under Backup/restore there are several options which include

- Nand backup

- Nand backup + .android_secure

- Nand + ext backup

- Nand + ext backup + .android_

Which option do I select?

Sorry am a n00b. I am running on stock 2.2.2 and I've installed the recovery and would like to flash the franco kernel, my question is when the official Gingerbread is available will I be able to upgrade without any issues since I would change the kernel?

Thanks!
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
For stock without any Apps2SD/Link2SD stuff Nand backup + .android_secure is enough. (i.e., the system, data and apps installed on phone and apps installed on SD via the Froyo built-in mechanism.)

For the rest, we do not know, ask LG, they will not tell you the date either, no point in asking.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
I've got this application App2Sd installed on the phone. So which backup do I go for? also I get this error "Error : Run 'nandroid-mobile.sh' via adb !" while creating a backup of anything other than Nand backup.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
If you partitioned your card, you need to backup the ext as well. If you are unsure about whether you have anything installed on SD card via Froyo, just back up everything.

As for the error, would guess to be corrupt filesystem on the ext partition, or SD card compatibility issue or whatnot.

What recovery are you using (incl. version) and how did you partition the card, and what filesystem?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
AmonRa/modified by Drellisdee version 1.2. I haven't partitioned the card. I just installed the recovery and gives me error whenever i try to create any backup. I tired only the Nand backup and it was successful. Yes. I've installed many applications on the sd card.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
Clear as a mud. What is that App2SD "application" you are talking about, exactly? Where did you get it from, how did you install?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
Clear as mud what? Obviously from android market. App2Sd... To move the installed applications onto the SD card.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
"Obviously" - there is nothing obvious about this, most people here are using flashed custom apps that use ext2/3/4 partition for moving applications, cache and data to a partitioned SD card.

Well whatever, I need a market link, since searching for App2Sd will definitely not answer my question, there are loads of utilities there.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
I clearly mentioned that am new to these stuff and "flashed custom apps" No chance since I've just installed the custom recovery. You are confusing me further. Thanks for the confusion.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
You are welcome. Until you tell me exactly which application you installed, I really cannot help. Searching for app2sd results in tons of results and there are also applications that partition the SD card themselves, so it is not even clear whether you have the card partitioned or not. Apps2SD itself is a meaningless description, sorry.

Otherwise, stick with nand backup only, use Titanium for the rest and move on.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bindaasathar:
I don't think you got my point.

1. Which type of backup do I use to back my stuff up though the Recovery's Backup / restore option.

2. Whenever I try to back up things, I get this error "Error : Run 'nandroid-mobile.sh' via adb !"

I hope you understood.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
I cannot tell you what to backup when I do not know where you have stuff installed/stored, uh! I already answered your question in a generic way and no more detailed info can be provided since I know nothing about your particular setup.

Ditto for the second question, as said - if you cannot be bothered to get the info required to diagnose your weird error message, simply use plain nand backup for system and data and Titanium for applications backup. All I can say to this.